| 00:00.45 | vhaarr | Thrae: PitBull makes WoW crash. |
| 00:00.45 | vhaarr | But I think ckk fixed it earlier today. |
| 00:00.45 | vhaarr | And there was an AceEvent bug that also caused a crash, if you had an older AceEvent around. |
| 00:01.01 | vhaarr | So the problem is probably that the AceEvent in Mudkipz' agUF folder is old. |
| 00:01.02 | Mudkipz | my friend is on nvidia drivers while I use ati omega drivers |
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| 00:02.03 | Thrae | vhaarr: Hmm, I'll have to talk to ckknight then. That indicates a weakness either in the WoW API or Lua Engine. |
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| 00:02.51 | vhaarr | Thrae: Indeed. I think the PitBull problem errored with error 132 when clearing some group stuff. |
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| 00:02.58 | vhaarr | Thrae: http://wowace.com/trac/changeset/33747 |
| 00:03.03 | Brok | I am currently using Pitbull, crashed earlier, updated again (with a new pitbull download) and haven't crashed since. |
| 00:03.12 | vhaarr | Right, so that commit fixed it. |
| 00:03.21 | Mudkipz | can I save/reuse my current aguf lua? sometimes when I update aguf my whole profile gets reset and I have to fix it again T_T |
| 00:03.49 | Thrae | vhaarr: Oh wait...perhaps when the Lua Engine crashes, so does WoW. I'm not sure how Lua handles stack overflows, which can be by recursion. |
| 00:04.01 | vhaarr | Thrae: Would probably crash WoW. |
| 00:04.16 | vhaarr | but I don't really know. |
| 00:04.33 | clad|afk | stackoverflows are caught |
| 00:04.52 | clad|afk | I've never seen Lua crash wow, its pretty well guarded, since its an embedded language by design |
| 00:04.55 | vhaarr | So you'd be disconnected then? |
| 00:05.41 | Thrae | Oh wait, I remember -- I've seen stack overflow errors before, so yeah, Lua does catch them and just gives an error message |
| 00:05.59 | vhaarr | ah, right |
| 00:06.22 | nymbia | but the pitbull raid frames are definitely causing a hard crash |
| 00:06.33 | nymbia | (or were, did that update fix it?) |
| 00:07.00 | vhaarr | according to Brok, yes. |
| 00:07.03 | Thrae | Yeah, any crash that's definately from an addon should be sent to slouken |
| 00:07.50 | clad|afk | I get an instant stack overflow from local f,g f = function() g() end g = function() f() end f() |
| 00:07.55 | clad|afk | not that the cycle is necessary :P |
| 00:09.25 | sylvanaar | clad|afk lua can crash wow |
| 00:09.34 | chuckg | I was just telling him that! |
| 00:09.40 | sylvanaar | its a fact |
| 00:09.43 | chuckg | I got one with an :AddMessage() the other day. |
| 00:09.46 | clad|afk | yes, and if it does, its a bug |
| 00:09.50 | clad|afk | plain and simple =) |
| 00:10.00 | sylvanaar | oh, yeah, no arguement there |
| 00:10.13 | clad|afk | i never said it _doesn't_, just that I've never seen it |
| 00:10.24 | clad|afk | and thats typically a lua call into a c function |
| 00:10.27 | clad|afk | which is c crashing wow =) |
| 00:10.33 | clad|afk | sadly user initiated =/ |
| 00:10.52 | Thrae | Yeah, that wouldn't really be Lua related then |
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| 00:11.04 | Thrae | I'm looking for holes in WoW's Lua engine itself |
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| 00:20.05 | ckknight | Thrae: fun |
| 00:20.05 | kaiden | ok, so i know QuestFU uses tablet but is it possible that it could be ignoring Skinner's modification of the way it should look |
| 00:20.05 | Industrial | questsfu |
| 00:20.05 | ckknight | still don't understand why that extra s is there |
| 00:20.06 | Industrial | it shows quests |
| 00:20.06 | kaiden | i posted a screenshot trying to duplicate what this guy did and he's using QuestsFU tracker and sent me his skinner.lua and all other panels are skinned like they are supposed to be |
| 00:20.06 | kaiden | except the questsfu tracker window |
| 00:20.08 | Mudkipz | It just crashed again *sigh* |
| 00:20.40 | ckknight | Industrial: and BagFu takes care of more than one bag |
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| 00:20.41 | Mudkipz | It would really help if it gave me an error message but it doesn't |
| 00:20.47 | kaiden | Anyone have any ideas on how QuestsFU's tracker window could be completely ignoring Skinner's modification to it's border and background color? |
| 00:20.47 | Thrae | ckknight: When you say "fun", I'm guessing the problem wasn't apparent :D |
| 00:20.47 | ckknight | nope |
| 00:20.48 | ckknight | what problem? |
| 00:20.48 | Thrae | ckknight: PitBull was causing a crash, apparently. |
| 00:20.49 | ckknight | oh, yes, I know that |
| 00:20.50 | Thrae | We were talking about if Lua itself could cause a crash, which of course should be reported to slouken. |
| 00:20.50 | Thrae | I heard it was in AceEvent. |
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| 00:20.51 | vhaarr | That was a separate problem. |
| 00:20.51 | nymbia | AceEvent managed to block PLAYER_LOGIN somehow, which caused all kinds of interesting behaviour |
| 00:20.51 | nymbia | but easy fix there |
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| 00:21.48 | Thrae | Ahhh, yeah, I could see tainting a global event causing problems. |
| 00:21.49 | Thrae | ckknight: Was that the problem with PitBull, accidentially tainting an event? |
| 00:21.49 | chutwig | ought i to throw away my pitbull SV now? |
| 00:21.50 | chutwig | the raid frames are still being kind of weird |
| 00:21.50 | ckknight | Thrae: I don't see how |
| 00:21.50 | Thrae | chutwig: The crashing problem was fixed |
| 00:21.50 | Thrae | ckknight: I thought the crashing problem with PitBull was fixed |
| 00:21.50 | chutwig | Thrae: they're a-fussin' and a-feudin' about health bars and indices |
| 00:21.50 | ckknight | it's possible, I don't know |
| 00:21.55 | Thrae | ckknight: You didn't fix it? |
| 00:22.04 | ckknight | I DON'T KNOW |
| 00:22.17 | chutwig | duck and cover |
| 00:22.17 | vhaarr | Someone just said it didn't crash any more. |
| 00:22.25 | Mudkipz | It's not just pitbull it seems |
| 00:22.32 | ckknight | it may work now, it might not |
| 00:22.33 | chutwig | i had a crash earlier without having raid frames up, dunno what caused it |
| 00:22.38 | vhaarr | Mudkipz: Have you tried updating all your addons? |
| 00:22.44 | ckknight | I don't know because I couldn't reproduce it before |
| 00:22.59 | Mudkipz | vhaarr : Everything in "ace" related is definitely updated |
| 00:23.11 | chutwig | blah |
| 00:23.24 | chutwig | a securetemplates error related to pitbull |
| 00:23.40 | Thrae | ckknight: I was just asking what you did to try and fix the problem, that's all. Brok says his problem with PitBull was immediatly fixed with the newest version. |
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| 00:23.51 | Brok | I am currently using pitbull and I most of my disconnects were coming from zoning in and out of instances/arenas. I updated around 4PM today and have not (by zoning in and out of instances/Arenas) crashed yet. |
| 00:23.56 | ckknight | oh, I did a few things to allay the problem. |
| 00:24.04 | ckknight | Brok: that's good news. |
| 00:24.05 | Mudkipz | itemrack and auctioneer are the few addons that I haven't updated so far |
| 00:24.12 | kaiden | ah i see... Skinner isn't skinning tablet for some reason :( |
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| 00:24.18 | NeoTron | weird. trying to run the armory tools on my site and it keeps saying it can't get the attributes from the data. however it seems to me the data is downloaded correctly |
| 00:24.26 | ckknight | just gotta keep testing |
| 00:24.26 | chutwig | and now another one from dewdrop |
| 00:24.27 | chutwig | such fussery! |
| 00:25.01 | Thrae | ckknight: Well if there's no crashes reported by tomorrow, we should probably start looking at your diffs. |
| 00:25.30 | ckknight | I know what I did... |
| 00:25.32 | NeoTron | weird yet, if I remove the test that fails it worked |
| 00:25.51 | Thrae | "We" meaning not including yourself |
| 00:25.54 | ckknight | it was an issue with the laziness of :ClearUnitFrame coupled with DogTag and other modules trying to call functions based on nonexistent units |
| 00:26.22 | Bibi`ouF | someone get me an us account. |
| 00:26.22 | Bibi`ouF | :/ |
| 00:26.30 | Thrae | ckknight: Yeah, but a 132, even calling C functions, isn't good |
| 00:27.02 | Thrae | ckknight: Sounds like there are a lot of WoW API calls involved though =/ |
| 00:27.13 | Chompers | i thought you went to school ck ? |
| 00:27.21 | Chompers | or are you at school right now |
| 00:27.24 | ckknight | I'm at school, Chompers |
| 00:27.26 | ckknight | library |
| 00:27.30 | ckknight | have Poly Sci in 30 |
| 00:27.46 | kaiden | nice ... apparently Skinner's .TOC was pointing to the SkinMe\ folder for it's addon skins instead of the AddonSkins\ folder and ignoring all the addon skins |
| 00:27.48 | Thrae | You should change your nick to "ckknight|schooled" so people know :D |
| 00:27.55 | CIA-31 | 03nymbia * r33758 10PitBull/Spark/ (. Spark.lua): |
| 00:27.55 | CIA-31 | PitBull_Spark: |
| 00:27.55 | CIA-31 | - import. Shows energy tick timer for rogues/cat fite droods, five second rule for everyone with mana. |
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| 00:28.00 | Chompers | no no |
| 00:28.06 | ckknight | Thrae: why would I? |
| 00:28.06 | Chompers | ckknight|Skooled |
| 00:28.10 | ckknight | nice, nymbia |
| 00:28.14 | nymbia | :) |
| 00:28.25 | ckknight | nymbia: make sure it doesn't run if you're not a DRUID/ROGUE |
| 00:28.28 | ckknight | if you haven't already. |
| 00:28.35 | Roartindon | ckknight: " |
| 00:28.40 | Roartindon | "five second rule for everyone with mana" |
| 00:28.48 | ckknight | oh |
| 00:28.51 | ckknight | okay then |
| 00:29.03 | ckknight | I'm watching Drive S01E04 |
| 00:29.21 | nymbia | it nils its handlers if the player's a warrior but leaves the option thing |
| 00:29.47 | nymbia | actually i could do that better |
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| 00:30.55 | ckknight | still want to add a druid mana bar |
| 00:31.13 | Chompers | any good ck? |
| 00:31.15 | ZealotOnAStick | dear god the new BW emphasized bars are obnoxious. |
| 00:31.22 | ckknight | Chompers: the show? |
| 00:31.24 | Chompers | been looking for something to watch |
| 00:31.26 | Chompers | yeah, Drive |
| 00:31.30 | ckknight | yea, it's interesting |
| 00:31.31 | kebinusan | ZOAS you can turn them off |
| 00:31.34 | ckknight | worth my time to watch. |
| 00:31.36 | NightHawkTheSane | Could add an option to the energy ticker to show mana instead if you're a druid? |
| 00:31.37 | kebinusan | I like them though |
| 00:31.39 | ckknight | without commercials |
| 00:31.48 | ckknight | if there were commercials, it wouldn't be worth it |
| 00:31.48 | NightHawkTheSane | Or, show mana while in bear form at least |
| 00:32.10 | ckknight | NightHawkTheSane: <ckknight> still want to add a druid mana bar |
| 00:32.14 | ZealotOnAStick | Yeah, I just found the options. |
| 00:32.17 | NightHawkTheSane | And, I think fox cancelled Drive. |
| 00:32.21 | ckknight | it'll be a separate module |
| 00:32.22 | ZealotOnAStick | Just couldn't dig around for it in the middle of the fight. |
| 00:32.58 | Chompers | i need something to fill the void that bsg left :< |
| 00:33.05 | ZealotOnAStick | confused me at first until I realized what the bars were counting, was this HUGE bar dead center on my screen. Was like "great, what addon either fucked up or has some bizarre new "feature?"" |
| 00:33.21 | ZealotOnAStick | Season 3 of Doctor Who is airing. |
| 00:34.51 | TecnoBrat | lol the new bigwigs bar did it to me too |
| 00:34.54 | TecnoBrat | I was like .. wtf? |
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| 00:36.30 | CIA-31 | 03archarodim * r33759 10Decursive/ (11 files): |
| 00:36.30 | CIA-31 | Decursive: |
| 00:36.30 | CIA-31 | - An informative help message is displayed when the user doesn't click a MUF with the correct mouse button. |
| 00:36.30 | CIA-31 | - 3 new locals have been added (already translated for frFR) |
| 00:36.30 | CIA-31 | - It is now possible to move the "Decursive" bar maintaining the key Alt pushed with the buttons hidden. |
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| 00:39.10 | CIA-31 | 03nymbia * r33760 10PitBull/Spark/Spark.lua: |
| 00:39.10 | CIA-31 | PitBull-Spark: |
| 00:39.10 | CIA-31 | - Commit module suicide better on warriors, while still leaving the options in the menu. |
| 00:43.41 | CIA-31 | 03rabbit * r33761 10ag_UnitFrames/ag_UnitFrames.lua: ag_UnitFrames: Down to one table creation per :CallUnitMethods with a unit search, can probably cache it somehow to reduce it further. |
| 00:46.33 | ZealotOnAStick | Spark? |
| 00:46.47 | ckknight | yea, seriously, why is it such a funny name? |
| 00:48.22 | nymbia | cuz its a spark! ;) |
| 00:48.35 | nymbia | blizzard |
| 00:48.38 | nymbia | blame blizzard |
| 00:48.46 | nymbia | "Interface\\CastingBar\\UI-CastingBar-Spark" |
| 00:48.50 | Mudkipz | I can't even stay logged in for 5 minutes it seems |
| 00:48.53 | ckknight | lol. |
| 00:51.57 | CIA-31 | 03nymbia * r33762 10PitBull/Spark/Spark.lua: |
| 00:51.57 | CIA-31 | PitBull-Spark: |
| 00:51.57 | CIA-31 | - Throw in a couple comments, get rid of a redundant call. |
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| 00:57.42 | CIA-31 | 03nymbia * r33763 10PitBull/Spark/Spark.lua: |
| 00:57.42 | CIA-31 | PitBull-Spark: |
| 00:57.42 | CIA-31 | - Safety net for if a druid disables the module in one form then enables it in another. |
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| 01:00.22 | CIA-31 | 03nymbia * r33764 10PitBull/Spark/Spark.lua: |
| 01:00.22 | CIA-31 | PitBull-Spark: |
| 01:00.22 | CIA-31 | - Bugfix. |
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| 01:04.06 | xlvii | any body here who uses flash 8 on a day to day basis? |
| 01:04.10 | xlvii | or, has somewhat used it? |
| 01:04.18 | xlvii | i'm having trouble with some of my action script. |
| 01:05.01 | CIA-31 | 03rabbit * r33765 10ag_UnitFrames/ag_Defaults.lua: ag_UnitFrames: Use ** for unit and group defaults. |
| 01:07.21 | CIA-31 | 03morgalm * r33766 10MorgDKP/ (MorgDKP.lua MorgDKP.toc MorgDKPOptions.lua): |
| 01:07.21 | CIA-31 | MorgDKP: |
| 01:07.21 | CIA-31 | - Added All switch for class selection |
| 01:10.27 | CIA-31 | 03grayhoof * r33767 10sct/sct_unitpos.lua: sct: Cleaned up nameplate code based off Aloft and Roartindon |
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| 01:12.45 | vhaarr | nymbia: You haven't added Spark to the PitBull toc. |
| 01:13.14 | vhaarr | or I'm sure you have, but forgot to commit :) |
| 01:15.27 | nymbia | that's true |
| 01:15.31 | nymbia | thanks :) |
| 01:15.48 | CIA-31 | 03funkydude * r33769 10LittleWigs/HellfireCitadel/Warchief.lua: |
| 01:15.48 | CIA-31 | LittleWigs: HellfireCitadel/Warchief: |
| 01:15.48 | CIA-31 | - yet another engage yell |
| 01:16.17 | Funkeh` | woohoo, SH heroic done at last :/ TK attu this week, Void Reaver next week |
| 01:16.38 | Roartindon | ~seen Grayhoof |
| 01:17.16 | purl | Roartindon: i haven't seen 'grayhoof' |
| 01:17.16 | CIA-31 | 03nymbia * r33770 10PitBull/PitBull.toc: |
| 01:17.17 | CIA-31 | PitBull: |
| 01:17.17 | CIA-31 | - Add Spark module to toc. |
| 01:17.17 | ZealotOnAStick | Funky, what guild are you in? You guys are on almost identical progression with us. |
| 01:17.26 | ZealotOnAStick | Our GL's goal is Void Reaver dead by next weekend. |
| 01:17.29 | Funkeh` | Mythical Honour |
| 01:17.40 | ZealotOnAStick | EU or US? |
| 01:17.44 | Funkeh` | eu |
| 01:17.48 | Funkeh` | arathor |
| 01:17.55 | ZealotOnAStick | Horde? |
| 01:18.02 | Funkeh` | alliance |
| 01:18.05 | ZealotOnAStick | Bah. |
| 01:18.13 | ZealotOnAStick | (Warfare, US Blackhand, Horde) |
| 01:19.10 | ZealotOnAStick | If we can freaking get Magtheridon dead tonight (if people can manage to click freaking cubes properly) |
| 01:19.25 | Chompers | time to do a little Funkeh` stalking |
| 01:19.27 | ZealotOnAStick | We killed him once 3 weeks ago and it wasn't bad. |
| 01:19.34 | ZealotOnAStick | And then seemed braindead the week after that. |
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| 01:20.46 | Chompers | i wanna kill mag too! :< |
| 01:21.15 | Amadeo | Seerah: Every time I see your nickname I think of He-Man |
| 01:21.28 | Seerah | haha |
| 01:21.45 | Seerah | I had an UD warrior alt named Sheera |
| 01:21.59 | Amadeo | I think I had a He-Man Atari game :) |
| 01:22.00 | Amadeo | haha |
| 01:22.34 | Tain | I HAVE THE POWER! |
| 01:22.49 | Amadeo | no! |
| 01:22.51 | Seerah | my brothers had the he-man and skeletor castles and action figures and I had the she-ra castle and action figures when we were kids |
| 01:22.53 | Amadeo | By the power of Greyskull! |
| 01:23.12 | Amadeo | :) |
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| 01:23.39 | Amadeo | I never had any one thing I was really into as a kid |
| 01:23.44 | Amadeo | I had a few of everything |
| 01:24.10 | Tain | I had everything. Tri-Clops, Beast-Man, Man-At-Arms.. |
| 01:24.53 | Amadeo | hah |
| 01:25.29 | Amadeo | It's probably my undiagnosed ADD that kept me from really being into anything :P |
| 01:25.56 | Seerah | heh |
| 01:26.33 | Amadeo | I had a few Voltron cats, a few Transformers, some Legos, some GI Joe, maybe a Star Wars ship or something |
| 01:27.17 | NightHawkTheSane | I had (still have at my mom's..) a crapton of legos. |
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| 01:28.01 | Tain | I like Worcestershire sauce. |
| 01:28.13 | Seerah | wow- random :P |
| 01:28.24 | Amadeo | I can't even say it |
| 01:28.44 | Seerah | pronounced wohrchestersher |
| 01:28.53 | Seerah | accent on first syllable |
| 01:29.28 | NightHawkTheSane | Not a fan myself. I do like molasses though. |
| 01:30.05 | Amadeo | Seerah: Can I just have you say it for me if I ever need to use the word? |
| 01:30.12 | Seerah | paddington bear <3 |
| 01:30.21 | Seerah | haha |
| 01:30.27 | Bibi`ouF | WTS French cuisine lessons. |
| 01:30.50 | Bibi`ouF | It will costs hmmmmm ... a WoW US account. |
| 01:30.57 | Bibi`ouF | and cookies |
| 01:31.02 | Seerah | hors d'ouvres |
| 01:31.05 | Amadeo | hahaha |
| 01:31.06 | Seerah | (sp?) |
| 01:31.07 | Bibi`ouF | FAILZ ! |
| 01:31.10 | Bibi`ouF | hors d'oeuvres |
| 01:31.16 | Seerah | doh! |
| 01:31.21 | NightHawkTheSane | how about brownies instead? those are totally worth a wow account |
| 01:31.22 | Seerah | I knew something was missing :P |
| 01:31.22 | Bibi`ouF | and actually, the "oe" part looks funnier. |
| 01:31.25 | Amadeo | Waiter! There are snails on her plate! |
| 01:31.26 | Seerah | so totally |
| 01:31.30 | Seerah | gooey and warm |
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| 01:32.01 | Amadeo | this is getting good |
| 01:32.03 | Bibi`ouF | I don't eat snails :/ |
| 01:32.34 | Amadeo | I can't say I've ever tried them |
| 01:33.02 | Seerah | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:33.15 | Amadeo | I'll try almost anything at least once |
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| 01:34.04 | Seerah | that's what my husband says |
| 01:34.14 | Seerah | not me |
| 01:34.20 | Seerah | I was the pickiest kid |
| 01:34.22 | Amadeo | as long as it won't kill me |
| 01:34.32 | Amadeo | Me too, but I grew up! Kinda! |
| 01:34.39 | Roartindon | French has too many silent letters in their words... I mean.. "hors d'oeuvres" could be written in 5 letters :P |
| 01:35.10 | Seerah | 6 really.... or dervs |
| 01:35.12 | Bibi`ouF | hor d evr at most :p |
| 01:35.14 | Seerah | 7 |
| 01:35.16 | Bibi`ouF | and it's gonna sound really weird |
| 01:35.20 | syeren | Does anyone happen to know the name of the addon which pulses the spell icon in the middle of your screen after it comes off cooldown? |
| 01:35.45 | Seerah | omnicc? |
| 01:35.53 | Seerah | oh wait |
| 01:35.58 | Seerah | that just does it on the bar |
| 01:36.14 | Amadeo | OmniCC is the best! |
| 01:37.18 | syeren | Well I don't use action bars Seerah, so that would defeat the purpose. |
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| 01:37.38 | Seerah | suppose so ;) |
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| 01:58.44 | syeren | Anyone who works on Prat here? |
| 01:59.44 | Tain | Prat kicks puppies. |
| 02:00.49 | NightHawkTheSane | I like kicking puppies |
| 02:01.12 | syeren | I'd love to know how to get my Edit Box Font size back to 9 instead of 14 :/ |
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| 02:07.05 | beerke | regarding pitbull crashing when raid changes. I tracked it down here http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=5456.msg96331#msg96331 |
| 02:07.35 | beerke | v33454 works, all beyond seem to consistently crash |
| 02:14.52 | CIA-31 | 03rabbit * r33771 10Ace2/Ace2.toc: Ace2: Remove AceDebug-2.1 from the TOC. |
| 02:16.17 | Bruners | http://ace.pastey.net/17356 errors i got before wow crashed |
| 02:18.26 | vhaarr | hrm, I guess Aloft can't use DogTag, since it doesn't deal with unit IDs. |
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| 02:18.47 | kaiden | JJSheets, i forgot to mention another bug yesterday (btw THANKS for the abbreviated bindings) |
| 02:18.58 | Roartindon | vharr: yep, but it has its own tagging system |
| 02:19.00 | kaiden | The bug is travel form shouldn't have it's own stance bar |
| 02:19.04 | kaiden | it's not really a stance :) |
| 02:19.07 | JJSheets | kaiden. |
| 02:19.11 | vhaarr | Roartindon: I was just looking at it, looks nice. |
| 02:19.17 | JJSheets | people want to be able to hide the bar in travel form. |
| 02:19.21 | JJSheets | so it stays. |
| 02:19.23 | kaiden | ohhhh |
| 02:19.25 | JJSheets | :) |
| 02:19.26 | kaiden | ok i get it :) |
| 02:19.45 | kaiden | didn't know it was intended :) |
| 02:20.01 | kaiden | thanks for all the hard work you have put into this addon, i am officially addicted to it |
| 02:20.07 | JJSheets | yup.. if you go back far enough in the revisions you find the travel forms gone. :p |
| 02:20.40 | JJSheets | kaiden... I may have a fix for you on the prowl/catform stuff, but I can't stand my Druid for more than 2000 xp at a time at lvl 18. |
| 02:21.09 | JJSheets | if I get a chance I'll do a commit to let you test it, but for now... I need to enjoy the game. :) |
| 02:21.12 | kaiden | lol :) if you want me to test fixes for you i'm totally willing |
| 02:21.20 | kaiden | of course enjoyment is first and foremost |
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| 02:29.11 | kaiden | JJSheets, so what class do you play? |
| 02:30.08 | JJSheets | Favorites are 'Lock and Hunter. Can't stand Shaman and Druid. |
| 02:30.37 | Mikk | Bah. Druids rock. And I had 100 days played on my lock =P |
| 02:30.41 | kaiden | yeah i'm leveling a hunter at the moment, locks are wicked at 70 if you have a priest.. absolutely gross for farming |
| 02:30.51 | Mikk | Then again, druids do get a hell of a lot more fun when you get cat =P |
| 02:31.10 | JJSheets | I can't stand playing a druid long enough to get to any of the interesting stuff, likewise with shaman. |
| 02:31.13 | Mikk | (And when you get imp LotP it's just lol for grinding) |
| 02:31.25 | Mikk | Nah, shammies just get slower as they go higher. |
| 02:31.41 | JJSheets | shammies are right out for me then... |
| 02:32.09 | kaiden | yeah |
| 02:32.22 | kaiden | when i quit my draenei shaman it wasn't because the class wasn't good enough |
| 02:32.26 | kaiden | it was because it was too goo |
| 02:32.36 | kaiden | i put out so much dps i died at least 10 times per instance due to no aggro dump |
| 02:32.50 | JJSheets | lol |
| 02:32.55 | NightHawkTheSane | Yeah. It's like that at 70 too. |
| 02:33.01 | kaiden | he was 70 |
| 02:33.21 | kaiden | i was like the third in america to 70 |
| 02:33.21 | kaiden | ;( |
| 02:33.21 | kaiden | such a waste |
| 02:33.21 | JJSheets | I might... just might start enjoying my druid if I can ever get him to lvl 20... but I kinda doubt it. |
| 02:33.22 | NightHawkTheSane | It's not that bad if your tank dosent suck. |
| 02:33.29 | Mikk | Aye, enhancement shammies have bloody wicked burst. |
| 02:33.34 | kaiden | NightHawkTheSane, yeah that's the problems most tanks suck :P |
| 02:33.35 | NightHawkTheSane | It's just that 99% of all tanks are -terrible- at it |
| 02:33.35 | Mikk | But the sustained dps isn't all that. |
| 02:33.51 | kaiden | i could easily burst to 1500+ dps per fight |
| 02:33.58 | NightHawkTheSane | The few times I've grouped with good tanks, I dont usually pull agro |
| 02:34.00 | kaiden | most of my fights were 500-700 dps |
| 02:34.16 | Mikk | Yeah that sounds about right |
| 02:34.26 | kergoth | hmm, i should actually play some. been reading instead lately, on my third book since monday |
| 02:35.00 | kaiden | my dps was so bad my raiding guild made me wait til the fight hasd gone on for at least 10 seconds before i began my fight |
| 02:35.03 | kaiden | on every pull :P |
| 02:35.11 | Mikk | On an unrelated note is there some annoying bug with Click2Cast that makes it not work with blizz partyframes that you guys know of? |
| 02:35.34 | hyperChipmunk | you smell and nobody likes you |
| 02:35.39 | JJSheets | lmao |
| 02:35.48 | Mikk | Oi! I just showered! |
| 02:36.19 | kaiden | Mikk, no sane man ever smells his armpits |
| 02:36.26 | kaiden | you must automatically assume they smell bad |
| 02:36.30 | Mikk | hahaha |
| 02:36.32 | kaiden | just to save yourself the horrible death |
| 02:36.37 | JJSheets | lol |
| 02:36.39 | Mikk | They smell Lynx tbh |
| 02:36.54 | Mikk | At least right now =P |
| 02:36.55 | CIA-31 | 03roartindon * r33772 10Aloft/ (AloftTag.lua AloftTags.rtf): |
| 02:36.55 | CIA-31 | Aloft |
| 02:36.55 | CIA-31 | - AloftTag changed ConstantInteger to ConstantNumber, ie. it now parses values with a decimal point |
| 02:36.55 | CIA-31 | - Updated AloftTags.rtf with a few tags that were missing. Still incomplete. |
| 02:37.21 | vhaarr | Mikk: It's not a bug, C2C just doesn't enable those frames for click-casting by default. |
| 02:37.35 | vhaarr | Which is quite silly, actually. |
| 02:37.35 | vhaarr | Let me change that. |
| 02:37.35 | kergoth | ~emulate peter |
| 02:37.37 | purl | You know those Germans; if you don't join the party, they come get you. |
| 02:37.37 | Mikk | Ah, cheers vhaar. |
| 02:37.45 | kergoth | hehe |
| 02:37.50 | JJSheets | heh |
| 02:38.39 | kaiden | i'm never gonna level as long as i'm playing with my ui ;( |
| 02:38.56 | kaiden | and what's worse is my loadtime just keeps going up up and up |
| 02:39.10 | Mikk | hehe |
| 02:39.17 | kergoth | heh |
| 02:39.37 | CIA-31 | 03rabbit * r33773 10Click2Cast/Click2Cast.lua: Click2Cast: Enable click-casting on the blizzard party/pet frames by default. |
| 02:40.07 | kergoth | ~emulate peter |
| 02:40.10 | purl | NOOOOOO. Silly rabbit, Trix are for kids. Damn longears, trying to take Easter away from Jesus. Anyway, what was that you were saying? |
| 02:40.14 | Mikk | hrm.. yaknow... what i would like is some nice little utility that lets me select groups of addons to use for groups of toons (e.g. via level, class, etc..) |
| 02:40.58 | kaiden | Mikk, been done |
| 02:41.01 | Mikk | And yeah I realize that's not really doable in an existing session, or for other toons.. Not without an interface reload. But I'd be okay with that tbh. |
| 02:41.03 | Mikk | Oh |
| 02:41.04 | Mikk | =/ |
| 02:41.27 | kaiden | ACP supports profiling, and i know there used to be a different addon control system |
| 02:41.37 | kaiden | that let you choose sets of addons to only load for certain levels |
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| 02:50.52 | CIA-31 | 03mcc * r33774 10Cartographer_Noteshare/Cartographer_Noteshare.lua: |
| 02:50.52 | CIA-31 | Cartographer_Noteshare: |
| 02:50.52 | CIA-31 | fix Traditional Chinese translation mistake |
| 02:53.47 | JJSheets | well... I think I'm gonna get dinner. see ya'll later. |
| 02:54.58 | TecnoBrat | Whats the respawn on the Mag trash now? |
| 02:55.01 | TecnoBrat | Still 1 hour? |
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| 03:02.15 | hyperChipmunk | is spark supposed to do something? |
| 03:02.52 | CIA-31 | 03rabbit * r33775 10PitBull/Spark/Spark.lua: |
| 03:02.52 | CIA-31 | PitBull: Spark: |
| 03:02.52 | CIA-31 | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:02.52 | CIA-31 | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:03.09 | hyperChipmunk | how about you make it do something |
| 03:03.24 | Roartindon | hyperChipmunk: It shows energy pulses, or mana/5 regen times |
| 03:03.32 | hyperChipmunk | incorreck |
| 03:03.35 | hyperChipmunk | incorrect |
| 03:03.40 | hyperChipmunk | it don't show jack! |
| 03:03.54 | Roartindon | heh.. /shrug |
| 03:04.03 | NightHawkTheSane | sure you're not on a warrior? ;) |
| 03:04.09 | hyperChipmunk | huntar |
| 03:04.49 | SlackerJer | might be hard to see with default options. it's faint but I see it on my paladin |
| 03:07.36 | CIA-31 | 03mcc * r33776 10Mendeleev/locales/zhTW.lua: |
| 03:07.36 | CIA-31 | Mendeleev: |
| 03:07.36 | CIA-31 | - modify Chinese Traditional Translation |
| 03:07.47 | hyperChipmunk | if it's this faint, i'm gonna need an image diff to see it |
| 03:08.21 | ZealotOnAStick | Gaaah! |
| 03:08.28 | ZealotOnAStick | Someone fucked up a click on MAgtheridon at 28%. |
| 03:08.49 | vodrin | we had a lovely one at 8% |
| 03:09.10 | vodrin | 28% is weird though =p |
| 03:09.24 | vodrin | don't you wait for a banish before going past 30? |
| 03:11.25 | ZealotOnAStick | We did. |
| 03:11.47 | ZealotOnAStick | Then he was kinda late after the debris, and someone just . .. fucked up. |
| 03:11.52 | vodrin | :< |
| 03:12.21 | Bruners | sounds better than wipeing on the third channeler |
| 03:17.35 | CIA-31 | 03mcc * r33777 10FuBar_FuXPFu/FuXPLocals.lua: |
| 03:17.35 | CIA-31 | FuBar_FuXPFu: |
| 03:17.35 | CIA-31 | - modify Traditional Chinese Translation |
| 03:17.55 | chutwig | ZealotOnAStick: that's been my night |
| 03:17.59 | chutwig | some ass clown fucks the cubes up |
| 03:18.00 | chutwig | every time |
| 03:18.19 | chutwig | we've killed him so people should know how this shit works by now |
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| 03:19.30 | ckknight | hey all |
| 03:19.36 | Funkeh` | hey ckknight |
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| 03:19.56 | Funkeh` | ckknight: wtb support for 2.1 dot/hot durations in pitbull |
| 03:20.29 | ckknight | you do it |
| 03:20.31 | FISKER_Q | stop stealing my ideas! |
| 03:20.53 | Funkeh` | ckknight: i would but im lazy |
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| 03:22.34 | Heri1 | anyone know of an addon that will calculated the amount of rep in items I'm carrying in my bags? |
| 03:23.17 | hyperChipmunk | Bibi`ouF: your Mountain Giant (crystal) is just an untextured apex mountain giant model |
| 03:24.27 | hyperChipmunk | and you might want to add the new healer one-handed gladiator maces |
| 03:24.56 | FISKER_Q | Bibi`ouF you idiot! |
| 03:25.02 | FISKER_Q | Any "blood elf" in hyjal are high elves |
| 03:25.03 | FISKER_Q | :I |
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| 03:25.29 | Dalhia | Hey |
| 03:25.50 | ckknight | hey Dalhia |
| 03:26.00 | Dalhia | What item DB is there with a pre build database (or the option to implement one) other the Lootlink? |
| 03:26.11 | hyperChipmunk | TooltipExchange? |
| 03:26.14 | Dalhia | I've been using Itemsync for a while, but I tend to need to link items that I havent seen :) |
| 03:26.32 | hyperChipmunk | pt3browser is handy too |
| 03:27.24 | Dalhia | Google isnt being helpfull on pt3browser, do you happen to have a site or FAQ on it? |
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| 03:28.01 | hyperChipmunk | files.wowace.com |
| 03:28.26 | Dalhia | Heh, got the hint, I'll give it a shot :) |
| 03:28.53 | hyperChipmunk | >8P |
| 03:28.55 | hyperChipmunk | it's just a dropdown categorized list of everything in PeriodicTable3 |
| 03:29.23 | Dalhia | Search function? |
| 03:29.31 | Dalhia | (basic name search is enough) |
| 03:29.34 | hyperChipmunk | you'll want TooltipExchange |
| 03:29.58 | Dalhia | Ah yes, see it in WAU now, thanks! |
| 03:30.02 | NightHawkTheSane | PT3Browser isnt really for 'browsing' item links, it's more for exploring the structure/layout of PT3 than anything else |
| 03:30.02 | hyperChipmunk | pt3browser is just a handy thing to have around, since it incurs minimal resource and overhead |
| 03:30.43 | Dalhia | Hmm, sounds like something to have fun with while I'm being rezzed then, I'll get it aswell. |
| 03:30.54 | hyperChipmunk | but TooltipExchange is what you want |
| 03:31.09 | Dalhia | Ok, thanks for the help :) |
| 03:31.31 | hyperChipmunk | pt3browser is good for stuff like "Gee, i wonder what tier 5 gear for every class is like" |
| 03:31.47 | hyperChipmunk | or, "i wonder what drops in this instance" |
| 03:32.05 | NightHawkTheSane | or.. "i wonder what set I need to get item X to show where I want in b aggins." :P |
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| 03:32.34 | Dalhia | Oh, something like atlasloot then? |
| 03:32.44 | hyperChipmunk | well it's all in pt3 already |
| 03:32.54 | Dalhia | (thats what I use atlasloot for anyway, maybe now I can finally drop it) |
| 03:33.03 | hyperChipmunk | if you've got like cartographer or other mods, you have all the data there already |
| 03:33.26 | hyperChipmunk | pt3browser just gives you a way to inspect it |
| 03:33.34 | hyperChipmunk | outside of whatever addon uses it |
| 03:33.48 | Bibi`ouF | [05:23:16] <hyperChipmunk> Bibi`ouF: your Mountain Giant (crystal) is just an untextured apex mountain giant model |
| 03:33.57 | Bibi`ouF | it's labeled as ogrilacrystalgiant in the game files |
| 03:33.57 | Dalhia | Hmm, so using atlasloot for stuff like Tiers, faction rewards, etc is putting that data x2 in my system? |
| 03:34.21 | hyperChipmunk | yea, but it's not textured yet! |
| 03:34.27 | hyperChipmunk | depends on what else you have |
| 03:34.38 | hyperChipmunk | i guess you don't use cartographer either? |
| 03:34.47 | Dalhia | I do :p |
| 03:34.54 | Dalhia | but I prefer the atlasloot faction window |
| 03:35.27 | hyperChipmunk | then yea, it's in there x2 |
| 03:35.37 | NightHawkTheSane | It'd be neat if atlasloot used pt3 |
| 03:35.42 | Dalhia | Ok, time to see if pt3 can replace it then :) |
| 03:35.51 | Dalhia | *browser |
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| 03:37.46 | ZealotOnAStick | Bah. |
| 03:38.10 | ZealotOnAStick | On the magtheridon kill, I was top damage, until I died from fucking falling debris that fell off to the SIDE of where the graphic for the crap falling was. |
| 03:38.36 | ZealotOnAStick | So, rebirthed and with NO buffs, I stand up and start hurting him again, and he does quake and throws me into another one. |
| 03:39.28 | Roartindon | zoas: Sounds like the old blizzard/rain of fire issues just being transposed to falling debris |
| 03:39.35 | Roartindon | still, that sucks :( |
| 03:43.41 | kebinusan | Mag is pretty annoying |
| 03:43.48 | kebinusan | we're beating our heads against him now |
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| 03:45.02 | gnorlish | most of my guild hides on mag nights |
| 03:45.09 | kebinusan | heh |
| 03:45.14 | gnorlish | going to have to resort to trickery like we did while learning aq fights |
| 03:45.29 | kebinusan | we're consistently getting 3 adds down, but then we lose a tank on the 4th.. I think we need to gear up a 4th tank a bit more |
| 03:45.37 | gnorlish | "bwl? i didn't say bwl tonight!" "GET TO AQ40" |
| 03:45.46 | kebinusan | heh |
| 03:46.46 | gnorlish | do you have a prot warr on the 1st and 2nd adds |
| 03:47.14 | _art3mis | sweet |
| 03:47.22 | _art3mis | horde first on our server, dropped gruul |
| 03:47.23 | kebinusan | prot warr tanking the 4th and 5th and a prot warr on the second, then the first and 3rd are dps warriors in tank gear |
| 03:47.47 | kebinusan | we need a feral druid |
| 03:47.49 | kebinusan | :-( |
| 03:47.59 | gnorlish | how many shamans do you have |
| 03:48.09 | kebinusan | only 2 |
| 03:48.17 | kebinusan | the fearing is a problem too, locks get feared healers die |
| 03:48.37 | kaiden | kebinusan, which server? :] |
| 03:48.40 | gnorlish | are you burning any of the adds simultaneously or 1 by 1 |
| 03:48.47 | kebinusan | 1 by 1 |
| 03:49.04 | Jygga | gnah, my warrior is alchemist ... scryer or aldor? ... scryer = major firepower aldor = def tank bias |
| 03:49.20 | Jygga | warriors shouldnt be alchemists ... |
| 03:49.26 | Shadowed | scryer |
| 03:49.26 | kebinusan | kaiden: Shu'Halo US |
| 03:50.00 | NightHawkTheSane | Jygga: go scryer, get better gear from instances. :P |
| 03:50.06 | Jygga | i guess i will reskill to blacksmithing in the future ... i might end up with the wrong side anyway ^^ |
| 03:50.30 | Jygga | ya the gear is not really what i should decide on i guess |
| 03:50.58 | Jygga | had better equip with my shaman before i even reached revered :) |
| 03:51.32 | Jygga | on the other hand i will have two chars at scryer side, missing all the "exiting" aldor content ^^ |
| 03:51.32 | gnorlish | well keb, depending on how fast you burn the first one down, you could simply have a total non-tank tank it |
| 03:51.43 | gnorlish | a holy pally in healing gear or a dps warr in dps gear |
| 03:52.43 | gnorlish | along with trying to burn 2 at once with all non-mana classes getting bloodlusted and using their aoe abilities |
| 03:53.01 | kebinusan | yeah, the problem we run into is it almost seems like we need a prot tank on magtheridon and the last two adds since they are still up when he goes live.. and we have a total of two prot warriors in the raid tonight |
| 03:53.19 | Jygga | as a horde player i was pretty shocked when i was in steamvault and we had a retribution pally tank better than a def tank |
| 03:53.29 | gnorlish | yeah, that's really the bare minimum, and not at all optimal for learning the encounter |
| 04:01.48 | xlvii | jygga, go aldor. |
| 04:02.10 | xlvii | jygga, with the new alchemy changes, that potion is likely not going to be used. |
| 04:03.22 | Roartindon | or you can be the crazy nut that gets exalted in both :) |
| 04:03.43 | Roartindon | One of our mages hit exalted scryer two weeks after TBC release.. he hit aldor exalted 3 weeks after that |
| 04:04.19 | Jygga | havent thought about that yet, thanks for pointing out another thing to keep in mind ... gah ;P |
| 04:07.06 | NightHawkTheSane | Roartindon: a prot warrior would have to be three kinds of certifiable to even try that. :P |
| 04:07.33 | Roartindon | I thought anyone would have to be :) as a mage, I haven't even made exalted in one yet |
| 04:07.50 | Roartindon | But I guess I spend my 'spare' time in game coding rather than grinding |
| 04:08.47 | CIA-31 | 03tjourney * r33778 10NielasAran/ (Core.lua FlameWreath.wav Locale-enUS.lua NielasAran.wav): |
| 04:08.47 | CIA-31 | NielasAran |
| 04:08.47 | CIA-31 | - lowered diskspace needed for soundfiles |
| 04:08.47 | CIA-31 | - improved soundfile quality |
| 04:08.47 | CIA-31 | - added slash "/na test" which plays the Chant at anytime |
| 04:09.43 | NightHawkTheSane | did the world really need that addon? >< |
| 04:10.04 | Roartindon | Gosh I hope not |
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| 04:12.15 | pastamancer | wtf is it |
| 04:13.56 | shieldb | I just want this nightmare to be over! |
| 04:13.59 | CIA-31 | 03ckknight * r33779 10DogTag-1.0/DogTag-1.0/DogTag-1.0.lua: DogTag-1.0 - optimization by caching all the functions beforehand in upvalues instead of doing table lookups. |
| 04:16.31 | shieldb | assuming the nielas aran thing works, it's actually sort of amusing |
| 04:17.00 | shieldb | it's some wav file with what sounds like a choir singing "I will not move during flame wreath or the raid blows up" over 16 seconds |
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| 04:18.59 | kaiden | sylvanaar, btw there's a small bug in the EditBox module in prat, it keeps resetting it's undocked position to the center of the screen even when it's locked. |
| 04:19.19 | Nife | pitbull won't move the buffs/debuffs. Is that a known bug/unimplemented feature ? |
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| 04:20.22 | kaiden | Nife, unimplemented |
| 04:21.29 | hyperChipmunk | that's a Russian Orthodox choir |
| 04:24.09 | hyperChipmunk | and awesome |
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| 04:26.43 | Nife | cool thanks kaiden. thought so just making sure. |
| 04:28.50 | CIA-31 | 03rabbit * r33780 10Babble-2.2/Babble-Zone-2.2/Babble-Zone-2.2.lua: .Babble-Zone-2.2: Added some zones from Hyjal. |
| 04:36.17 | vhaarr | that movie rocks indeed, haven't seen it in a long time. |
| 04:36.29 | vhaarr | In fact, I don't think I've seen it since the days of the VHS. |
| 04:36.51 | hyperChipmunk | so where is this 'spark' supposed to be? |
| 04:36.56 | hyperChipmunk | i'm looking on my mana bar |
| 04:37.01 | NightHawkTheSane | vhaarr: that's a crime, if i ever saw one. |
| 04:37.47 | vhaarr | I have no idea how the spark thingy works. |
| 04:38.03 | hyperChipmunk | you just edit it? |
| 04:38.08 | vhaarr | yeah |
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| 04:39.14 | Spetsdod | Good evening everyone. |
| 04:44.19 | ckknight | hey Spetsdod |
| 04:44.19 | Spetsdod | It was suggested that I come here to ask some questions for help with my mod. I'm just having trouble figuring out what questions to ask. =) |
| 04:44.19 | CIA-31 | 03kirkburn * r33781 10ClearFont2/Design.lua: |
| 04:44.19 | CIA-31 | ClearFont2: |
| 04:44.20 | CIA-31 | * Added back the old simple ChatFrame code |
| 04:44.20 | CIA-31 | * Individual chatframe code commented out |
| 04:44.20 | CIA-31 | * If you have another addon that allows you to set chat font sizes, use that! |
| 04:44.20 | CIA-31 | * Here's hoping it persists, etc. |
| 04:44.38 | ZealotOnAStick | Yay! |
| 04:44.56 | ZealotOnAStick | So it'll at least set the font, right? |
| 04:45.11 | Kirkburn|afk | Aye |
| 04:45.29 | Kirkburn|afk | It seems to persist |
| 04:46.09 | Kirkburn|afk | I think the main thing is to set font sizes using whatever chat addon you have, cause that can override it |
| 04:46.42 | ZealotOnAStick | Woot, new bleach! |
| 04:47.32 | Spetsdod | I'm using Hook("ChatFrame_MessageEventHandler", true) to capture the message event, but it's filtering EVERYTHING (say, guild, channels) and I only care about whispers. Is there a way to limit it to that? |
| 04:48.20 | Roartindon | Spetsdod: hmm.. why do you want whispers? hooking may not be the best approach |
| 04:49.13 | Spetsdod | Filtering messages from people who don't meet a defined set of criteria (friend, guild) |
| 04:49.31 | Spetsdod | It's filtering everything I say too. heh |
| 04:49.49 | Roartindon | ah okay, you do need to hook, but check the even that generates it to see if it's CHAT_MSG_WHISPER before you filter |
| 04:49.56 | Roartindon | s/even/event |
| 04:50.16 | vhaarr | Spetsdod: http://svn.wowace.com/wowace/trunk/ShutUp/ShutUp.lua |
| 04:51.25 | ckknight | NO U |
| 04:51.42 | Spetsdod | I have some programming experience and background, but I'm new to Lua / Ace and I'm so lost. =) |
| 04:52.03 | hyperChipmunk | you suck and we all hate you |
| 04:52.14 | kebinusan | heh |
| 04:53.01 | CIA-31 | 03shieldb * r33782 10Incubator/ (Core.lua Incubator.toc): |
| 04:53.01 | CIA-31 | Incubator: nil error fix |
| 04:53.01 | CIA-31 | - tracks times properly if you die but don't release |
| 04:53.01 | CIA-31 | - handles wipes properly |
| 04:53.01 | CIA-31 | - properly starts times for solo mobs pulled with other groups now |
| 04:53.13 | ckknight | Spetsdod: that's how I started |
| 04:53.40 | ckknight | Spetsdod: and my first addon was FuBar :-P |
| 04:53.42 | hyperChipmunk | everybody starts by ripping off someone else's addon |
| 04:54.07 | ckknight | yea, I haven't stopped |
| 04:54.13 | ckknight | I just steal everyone's ideas |
| 04:54.16 | ckknight | and try to improve on em |
| 04:54.24 | Spetsdod | It seems that is the default answer for help though. "Go look at suchandsuch.lua" |
| 04:55.00 | Spetsdod | That is kind of what I'm doing here. I found a mod that did what I wanted, sort of, but it wasn't very friendly or robust. |
| 04:55.50 | ckknight | ok, what you want is to hook ChatFrame_MessageEventHandler |
| 04:55.54 | ckknight | and do a check for event == "CHAT_MSG_WHISPER" |
| 04:55.59 | ckknight | then do what you want |
| 04:56.04 | Spetsdod | I have that actually. |
| 04:56.15 | vhaarr | Roartindon already said so, and I already linked code that does it. |
| 04:56.22 | Spetsdod | if (event == "CHAT_MSG_WHISPER") then |
| 04:56.29 | Spetsdod | Yeah, I'm looking at that too |
| 04:56.30 | ckknight | no need for the parentheses |
| 04:57.15 | Spetsdod | that's the java/javascript coming out. |
| 04:57.30 | vhaarr | You can use parens, works fine. |
| 04:57.47 | CIA-31 | 03roartindon * r33783 10Aloft/AloftTag.lua: |
| 04:57.47 | CIA-31 | Aloft |
| 04:57.47 | CIA-31 | - AloftTag now has local GetByte() and AdvanceByte() methods, rather than putting them into the dataTable |
| 04:57.47 | CIA-31 | - tagMethods, headerTable, functionStringList are all now recycled tables |
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| 05:00.44 | Spetsdod | CHAT_MSG_WHISPER_INFORM is the message I send out or a system message? |
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| 05:01.08 | ckknight | message you send out |
| 05:01.11 | vhaarr | That's an outgoing whisper, yes. |
| 05:06.01 | Spetsdod | vhaarr, did you write ShutUp or just link it? I'm trying to figure out the frame:SetScript("OnEvent", function() part |
| 05:06.32 | vhaarr | Spetsdod: I wrote it |
| 05:07.40 | vhaarr | Spetsdod: Perhaps you could be more specific. |
| 05:07.54 | Spetsdod | what does that block accomplish? between frame:SetScript( and the following end)? something inside the client on load, I assume. |
| 05:08.14 | vhaarr | It does many things, based on what event it catches. |
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| 05:11.45 | CIA-31 | 03funkydude * r33784 10BigWigs/SC/Leotheras.lua: |
| 05:11.45 | CIA-31 | BigWigs: SC/Leotheras: |
| 05:11.45 | CIA-31 | - image is at 15% |
| 05:11.45 | CIA-31 | - major fixes when only enabling certain abilities |
| 05:11.45 | CIA-31 | - first Whirlwind is 75 second after release |
| 05:12.23 | CIA-31 | 03roartindon * r33785 10Aloft/ (9 files in 3 dirs): |
| 05:12.23 | CIA-31 | Aloft |
| 05:12.23 | CIA-31 | - AloftTag now has a compile cache, which removes the need to special case empty string/nil (cache is preinitialised with it) |
| 05:12.23 | CIA-31 | - Since there's a cache, removed the need-to-update checks from all modules that used tags |
| 05:12.25 | CIA-31 | - Tags ending in "[" now give an aloft tag error result and proper warning, instead of a run time lua error |
| 05:12.31 | hyperChipmunk | that Gnomeregan Gnews Gnetwork production is absolutely brilliant |
| 05:12.44 | Roartindon | hyperChipmunk: link?> |
| 05:12.55 | hyperChipmunk | front page |
| 05:13.01 | hyperChipmunk | worldofwarcraft.com |
| 05:13.11 | hyperChipmunk | http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/downloads/movies.html |
| 05:13.20 | Roartindon | thanks :) |
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| 05:16.33 | art3mis | i didnt find it allt hat funny |
| 05:17.28 | art3mis | this however is awesome! |
| 05:17.32 | art3mis | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rwh1MWg1LLA |
| 05:17.34 | hyperChipmunk | wtfever |
| 05:17.40 | hyperChipmunk | it was gold |
| 05:18.34 | Adys | Is the last version of Prat causing problems to anyone else? |
| 05:18.56 | Adys | every time someone else than me talks I get a message "Prat/extras/util.lua:411: attempt to perform arithmetic on local 'r' (a nil value)" |
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| 05:20.27 | hyperChipmunk | teh mena! |
| 05:20.27 | hyperChipmunk | mis |
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| 05:22.21 | Antiarc | Is there a library that does string tokenization on a specified splitter in a memory-friendly way? |
| 05:23.04 | Roartindon | antiarc: string:split ? |
| 05:23.23 | Roartindon | blizzard added string.split, not in standard lua libraries |
| 05:23.24 | Antiarc | For some reason I didn't think that was going to work for this application, but I'll try it again. |
| 05:23.27 | Antiarc | Ooh, ok. |
| 05:24.08 | Antiarc | That'd explain my not finding it in the docs |
| 05:24.45 | Roartindon | string.split("delimiters", "string", [limit]) |
| 05:24.58 | Roartindon | http://www.wowwiki.com/2.0_consolidated_changes - under API Changes: Strings |
| 05:26.20 | Antiarc | Is that memory friendly? I don't want it to create a new table every time I call it. |
| 05:27.05 | CIA-31 | 03roartindon * r33786 10Aloft/AloftTag.lua: Aloft: AloftTag - numeric type information now stored as a local rather than inside dataTable. |
| 05:27.16 | Roartindon | it returns the data on the stack, not a table |
| 05:27.27 | Antiarc | Excellent |
| 05:27.32 | Bibi`ouF | yay. |
| 05:27.33 | Roartindon | a = "123:456:789" |
| 05:27.39 | Roartindon | b,c,d = string.split(":" a) |
| 05:27.39 | Bibi`ouF | my server just went fubar. |
| 05:27.51 | Roartindon | so b = 123, c = 456, d = 789 |
| 05:29.38 | CIA-31 | 03funkydude * r33787 10BigWigs/Outland/Magtheridon.lua: |
| 05:29.38 | CIA-31 | BigWigs: Outland/Magtheridon: |
| 05:29.38 | CIA-31 | - add blast nova casting bar |
| 05:29.38 | CIA-31 | - minor fixes |
| 05:29.39 | Antiarc | Problem is that I want to iterate it |
| 05:29.53 | Antiarc | I guess I could just assign a-z and just assume there will be no more than 26 splits or something |
| 05:30.11 | Antiarc | I don't want to use {strsplit(" ", s)}, obviously |
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| 05:31.12 | *** mode/#wowace [+o ckknight_] by ChanServ |
| 05:31.56 | Roartindon | antiarc - just use what dogtag used to do |
| 05:32.07 | art3mis | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vqO7zEWu0W0&mode=related&search= <-- a song for roar ;P |
| 05:32.14 | Roartindon | first, remainder = strsplit(" ", remainder, 2) |
| 05:33.05 | Antiarc | Oh, duh. That works. |
| 05:33.16 | Antiarc | Hahah, oy, I need to go find something to eat. |
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| 05:34.36 | CIA-31 | 03funkydude * r33788 10BigWigs/SC/Leotheras.lua: BigWigs: SC/Leotheras: image warning change |
| 05:35.37 | Nife | anyone else having issues with pitbull leaving behind a background ? |
| 05:37.05 | Nife | it seems like my target of target frame's grey background remains even when there is no target. Though it only seems to happen in battlegrounds. There is no error though |
| 05:38.06 | ckknight | Nife: no error, eh? |
| 05:38.15 | ckknight | Nife: can you click on it? |
| 05:38.26 | ckknight | or, if you click on it, does it not go through to the worldframe? |
| 05:39.59 | Nife | it goes through to the world frame. |
| 05:42.49 | ckknight | odd |
| 05:42.52 | ckknight | then I really don't knoww |
| 05:42.54 | ckknight | know* |
| 05:43.14 | Bruners | i get that all the time |
| 05:43.28 | ckknight | I've never gotten that |
| 05:43.34 | Nife | http://img413.imageshack.us/my.php?image=wowscrnshot042607011807zx9.jpg |
| 05:43.43 | ckknight | and this is the first I've heard about it |
| 05:44.05 | Bruners | i did mention it to you a couple of days ago :) |
| 05:44.21 | ckknight | well I wasn't listening |
| 05:44.25 | Nife | Thats what it looks like when its messed up and this is my normal setup http://img138.imageshack.us/my.php?image=wowscrnshot042607014229mt8.jpg |
| 05:44.47 | Nife | So the shadow seems to be off by a pixel or two and still there |
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| 05:45.23 | Bruners | ckknight: http://ace.pastey.net/17356 |
| 05:45.32 | Bruners | some errors i got last night |
| 05:45.42 | ckknight | update |
| 05:45.47 | ckknight | I fixed that |
| 05:45.53 | Bruners | kk |
| 05:45.57 | art3mis | it's pining the fjords |
| 05:46.02 | Bruners | already updated :) |
| 05:46.19 | ckknight | Nife: don't know why it's smaller... |
| 05:46.42 | Nife | me either I'm going into a bg just to make sure I didn't just miss an error |
| 05:46.44 | Roartindon | ToT background frame? |
| 05:46.51 | Nife | Yup |
| 05:47.04 | ckknight | Nife: this the ABF layout? |
| 05:47.40 | Nife | Yup |
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| 05:48.33 | vhaarr | Looks more like oUF. |
| 05:49.00 | ckknight | what's slouken's email? |
| 05:49.00 | ckknight | slouken at blizzard? |
| 05:49.17 | Nife | target and mine are oUF the target of a target is abf |
| 05:49.33 | sbu | morning |
| 05:49.38 | ckknight | morning, sbu |
| 05:50.00 | art3mis | ooo |
| 05:50.13 | art3mis | didnt realize illegal danish super snacks part 1 was out |
| 05:50.28 | art3mis | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y25XCwOBSUQ |
| 05:51.46 | vhaarr | Anyone remember what the text frames at the top center of the UI that track PvP objectives, Old Hillsbrad and Dark Portal progress, etc, are called? |
| 05:51.53 | Bibi`ouF | art3mis : it's one year old. :p |
| 05:52.18 | ckknight | art3mis: you're now on quintuple secret probation. |
| 05:52.19 | Funkeh` | good night |
| 05:52.35 | Sole | nymbia: ping |
| 05:52.36 | Sole | shadowed: ping |
| 05:52.40 | Gngsk | vhaarr, AlwausUpFrame |
| 05:52.46 | vhaarr | Gngsk: ah, thanks |
| 05:52.47 | Gngsk | er, AlwaysUpFrame |
| 05:52.52 | vhaarr | yes gotcha |
| 05:55.01 | hyperChipmunk | WorldStateAlwaysUpFrame |
| 05:55.26 | hyperChipmunk | or WorldStateAlwaysUpFrame1 |
| 05:58.16 | vhaarr | right, that's it, thanks |
| 05:58.59 | art3mis | yeah i guess i am |
| 05:59.09 | sbu | ckknight: is it possible to register multiple 'focus' frames? (unitframes working like focus, just 'watch' units) |
| 05:59.18 | art3mis | come on baby i got blessing of protection |
| 05:59.21 | ckknight | nah, sbu |
| 05:59.28 | ckknight | just focus |
| 05:59.51 | Adys | hm actually this problem with prat seems to be acting up with AltNames only. If someone I linked talks, I get an error |
| 05:59.54 | Nife | ckknight: yeah it just did it again. no error. Seems to happen when rezzing in battle. Maybe something about rezing while in combat. i duuno |
| 06:00.05 | Adys | (Prat/extras/util.lua:411: attempt to perform arithmetic on local 'r' (a nil value)) |
| 06:00.41 | ckknight | Nife: and if you show a targettargettarget and unselect, does it go awaya? |
| 06:01.28 | Nife | Nope but if I die and re-res is usually goes away |
| 06:03.00 | ckknight | odd |
| 06:03.19 | Shadowed | Sole: pong |
| 06:04.27 | Nife | Yup die while targeting someone who is targeting someone. Then when you res all the targets are cleared but the grey box is still there |
| 06:04.39 | art3mis | oh my god this video rules |
| 06:04.57 | art3mis | the rave club at thralls |
| 06:05.10 | Sole | Shadowed: what message did you send me? |
| 06:05.14 | Sole | Shadowed: Im too dumb to read mails from purl :P |
| 06:05.21 | Shadowed | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:05.28 | Shadowed | I can't remember anymore |
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| 06:05.37 | Shadowed | Something about syncing |
| 06:05.41 | Dhraga | yaaawn... morning all |
| 06:06.29 | Sole | cant /msg :( |
| 06:06.37 | Shadowed | mmm |
| 06:07.10 | Dhraga | Guys, are the NRT the only Ace Raid Tracker avalible ? |
| 06:07.33 | Dhraga | (Guys ´n Gals if any) |
| 06:07.41 | vhaarr | I didn't write it so that it could be some official "Ace2 Raid Tracker". |
| 06:07.46 | vhaarr | But I have no idea. |
| 06:08.13 | Shadowed | SSPVP 3 uses a different format from 2.4, 3.0 uses "ENEMY:<name>,<server>,<localized race>,<class Token><,guild (if any)>". Also, because you're using AceComm people aren't going to be able to sync with you unless they use AceComm...which is unlikely since the only really important sync is mouseover |
| 06:08.15 | Dhraga | vharr, what are you using for raid tracker yourself ? |
| 06:09.32 | Dhraga | Vhaarr even ;) |
| 06:09.41 | Sole | Shadowed: alright I'll fix it up |
| 06:09.47 | Shadowed | kk |
| 06:09.53 | vhaarr | Well, seeing as I wrote NRT, that would be a logical answer, wouldn't it? |
| 06:09.58 | Shadowed | thanks |
| 06:10.05 | vhaarr | It would, however, be the wrong answer. |
| 06:10.20 | vhaarr | Dhraga: We don't use a raid tracker, we just do all the DKP in-game. |
| 06:11.36 | ckknight | alright, I emailed slouken with all my current UI woes |
| 06:11.40 | Silviu- | Sole , ping ;) |
| 06:11.40 | ckknight | hopefully he answers |
| 06:11.46 | Sole | Silviu-: sup |
| 06:11.50 | Dhraga | vhaarr, okies.. we have skipped the dkp in Kz since it's only 10 man and we can sort it wihtout dkp, but it's always fun to post loot and attendants on the forum after, and a tracker would help.. I'll give the NRT a try |
| 06:12.01 | Nife | We have to get outta kara before I have to think about a raid tracker |
| 06:12.06 | Silviu- | Oh u don`t see private messages , did u look at ant thread ? ;) |
| 06:12.34 | Shadowed | If you register you can see PM's btw |
| 06:12.48 | haste | if you register you can send |
| 06:12.55 | haste | you can see them even if you aren't |
| 06:12.55 | Shadowed | and that |
| 06:13.00 | Shadowed | s/and/or/ |
| 06:13.17 | Sole | Silviu-: no I didnt look at the ant thread |
| 06:13.28 | Sole | Shadowed: I fucked my own nick I think :P |
| 06:13.33 | Silviu- | ;)) |
| 06:13.38 | Shadowed | How'd you manage that |
| 06:13.58 | Silviu- | Sole, oky i write here . Could u be so kind and add support for SharedMediaLib ? ;p |
| 06:14.41 | vid`` | http://www.exbyte.net/media/videos/2553/World_Of_Warcraft_Kills_Sex_Drive.html |
| 06:14.42 | vid`` | lol |
| 06:15.18 | Dhraga | Oh I just noticed the LittleWigs last day, I love it ! |
| 06:18.30 | Dhraga | Can anyone name a good Heal monitor, aka an addon where the healers see wich healer it healing what target in the raid, with what spell and how much hp that will be healed with it ? |
| 06:19.43 | ckknight | lol, vid` |
| 06:20.23 | Cyrez | Funny but not true, lol. |
| 06:21.12 | ckknight | yea, not true |
| 06:23.16 | Cyrez | Like my gamer friend getting head from his lady while doing battlegrounds. |
| 06:23.34 | Roartindon | cyrez: that'd make some interesting vent |
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| 06:24.07 | Cyrez | Said he played better while she was doing it, too, lol. |
| 06:24.30 | Cyrez | Frost Mage, like me. Supports the FC. |
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| 06:25.58 | hyperChipmunk | my lady IS the FC >8\ |
| 06:26.49 | ckknight | I should seriously document PitBull sometime |
| 06:27.10 | hyperChipmunk | why? never bothered you before! |
| 06:27.11 | hyperChipmunk | hoho! |
| 06:27.23 | ckknight | um |
| 06:27.25 | ckknight | yes I have |
| 06:27.28 | ckknight | I document all my libraries |
| 06:27.37 | ckknight | and Cartographer is documented |
| 06:28.07 | hyperChipmunk | yea, you ruin my insults =\ |
| 06:28.43 | hyperChipmunk | that's why i don't like you |
| 06:29.48 | ckknight | lol |
| 06:29.56 | ckknight | naw, I know you like me |
| 06:29.59 | ckknight | it's inevitable |
| 06:30.01 | ckknight | I'm too likeable |
| 06:31.55 | Dhraga | Btw, I love the Elite border in Pitbull, verry nice.... thank you :) |
| 06:32.25 | ckknight | you're welcome |
| 06:32.53 | hyperChipmunk | yea, that's scores better than the background |
| 06:32.59 | hyperChipmunk | not perfect, but much better |
| 06:35.58 | ckknight | you can turn it off |
| 06:37.39 | hyperChipmunk | actually, it turned itself off |
| 06:37.44 | hyperChipmunk | i had to turn it back on =P |
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| 06:48.46 | art3mis | http://accordionguy.blogware.com/Photos/2006/06/the_dangers_of_wow.jpg |
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| 07:04.25 | Fisker- | omg sup |
| 07:05.19 | Punkie` | yoyoyo |
| 07:07.30 | ckknight | omg Fisker- |
| 07:07.35 | Fisker- | :O? |
| 07:07.55 | ckknight | http://www.youtube.com/southernjesse - new video today |
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| 07:08.04 | Fisker- | can't watch it here |
| 07:08.08 | Fisker- | I'm at "work" |
| 07:08.13 | ckknight | lamer |
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| 07:14.58 | Punkie` | ~seen evl |
| 07:15.42 | purl | evl <n=fuckoff@c85-196-101-98.static.sdsl.no> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 9h 28m 1s ago, saying: 'ckknight: there's some wirdness with the anchoring of Auras on target especially, try putting auras top and it's offset by about 3-4 rows'. |
| 07:15.43 | ZealotOnAStick | omg. |
| 07:15.52 | ZealotOnAStick | "if you stare directly at the sun, and count the spots . . ." |
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| 07:16.15 | ckknight | lol, ZealotOnAStick |
| 07:16.23 | ckknight | yea, my videos are like that |
| 07:16.27 | ckknight | filled with half-truths |
| 07:19.36 | Punkie` | MY EYES |
| 07:19.42 | Punkie` | omg im sueing you for that video |
| 07:20.56 | CIA-31 | 03ckknight * r33791 10DogTag-1.0/DogTag-1.0/DogTag-1.0.lua: |
| 07:20.56 | CIA-31 | DogTag-1.0 - changed structure slightly. |
| 07:20.56 | CIA-31 | - now when a tag sequence has a syntax error, tell the user instead of letting it silently fail. |
| 07:21.22 | ckknight | Punkie`: you don't even watch my videos |
| 07:22.00 | ZealotOnAStick | Heh, I like the recycling logic. |
| 07:22.19 | ZealotOnAStick | Less than three, Sarah. |
| 07:22.29 | Punkie` | ckknight: I watched 3 and a half :( |
| 07:22.42 | ckknight | didn't make it through all of the Taxes video? |
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| 07:23.09 | ZealotOnAStick | I wonder who chickenscratchboy is. |
| 07:23.40 | ckknight | me too |
| 07:24.23 | Punkie` | oh woe is me |
| 07:24.39 | Punkie` | my lost.s03e18 rar files are damaged |
| 07:24.56 | Punkie` | and so is 3/7 of the par2 files :( |
| 07:25.00 | ckknight | I just downloaded it |
| 07:25.03 | ckknight | no rar files |
| 07:25.04 | ckknight | just avi |
| 07:25.17 | Punkie` | where from? |
| 07:25.28 | ZealotOnAStick | I'm glad I never really did get into Lost. |
| 07:25.42 | ZealotOnAStick | As a lot of people who liked it are totally done with it. |
| 07:26.01 | Punkie` | I like it |
| 07:26.08 | Punkie` | although it still just tells me nothing |
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| 07:28.11 | Punkie` | screw you octanews |
| 07:28.16 | Punkie` | and screw you giganews too |
| 07:30.19 | ckknight | eztv, Punkie` |
| 07:30.50 | ckknight | btw, Punkie`, s03e18 is a Sun-centric episode |
| 07:30.51 | ZealotOnAStick | Oooh. |
| 07:30.56 | ckknight | I'm not the most fond of Sun |
| 07:30.57 | Punkie` | sun-centric eh |
| 07:31.16 | ZealotOnAStick | Pre-order Black Rain (for only like $14) and get reaaaaallly good chances at 2 Ozzfest tickets. |
| 07:31.38 | sedatedChipmunk | gee, who could refuse? |
| 07:31.41 | Punkie` | thats what they want you to believe |
| 07:32.22 | ckknight | the reveal more about Juliette and such as well |
| 07:32.26 | ckknight | but that was obvious |
| 07:32.29 | Punkie` | great |
| 07:32.31 | ckknight | nothing shocking |
| 07:32.39 | Punkie` | except the fact that i have corrupted archives here |
| 07:32.40 | ckknight | I want to know what Locke's up to |
| 07:33.05 | mitch0 | Punkie`: we have a randomly corrupting berkley db here... not much better |
| 07:33.22 | evl | ckknight: Spark is totally <3 |
| 07:33.31 | sedatedChipmunk | spark don't do nuffin |
| 07:33.39 | sedatedChipmunk | i want my frickin' money back |
| 07:34.04 | ckknight | evl: I believe that was nymbia's doing |
| 07:34.05 | ZealotOnAStick | I SO want one of these. http://bc.onoro.us/missile-balloons-truck.jpg |
| 07:34.38 | sedatedChipmunk | haha |
| 07:34.52 | evl | ckknight: did you catch my message about the aura anchoring when buffs exceed a line? the anchor is some how flipped upside down so the more rows you add the further the auras are positioned when using top atleast |
| 07:35.03 | ckknight | odd |
| 07:35.05 | ckknight | yea, I dunno |
| 07:35.10 | ckknight | I haven't messed with auras in a while |
| 07:35.36 | sedatedChipmunk | evl: it does that for retarded people |
| 07:35.54 | evl | sedatedChipmunk: I know, your mom sent me the screenshot |
| 07:36.09 | sedatedChipmunk | oh-ho |
| 07:36.10 | sedatedChipmunk | ouch |
| 07:40.55 | chuckg | I have a hypothetical. |
| 07:41.03 | chuckg | Lets say I hook all 7 chatframes addmessages. |
| 07:41.13 | chuckg | Can I get *which* chatframes AddMessage is going through? |
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| 07:42.57 | vhaarr | chuckg: The frame is in the first argument to the handler. |
| 07:43.31 | chuckg | http://wowi.pastey.net/17443 |
| 07:43.35 | chuckg | In that example: |
| 07:43.38 | chuckg | this:GetName() ? |
| 07:43.46 | chuckg | Then just chomp out the last digit? |
| 07:43.49 | vhaarr | yes |
| 07:43.53 | chuckg | Excelent. |
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| 07:44.23 | chuckg | id = string.match("%d", this:GetName()) would do it, right? |
| 07:45.21 | vhaarr | no |
| 07:45.33 | vhaarr | id = this:GetName():match("%d") would |
| 07:46.22 | chuckg | How is that different? |
| 07:46.31 | ckknight | argument flip |
| 07:46.35 | vhaarr | Your arguments are flipped. |
| 07:46.40 | chuckg | Ahh, gotcha. |
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| 07:47.02 | chuckg | Just say it on the PIL or whatever it's called. |
| 07:47.06 | chuckg | Saw it, rather. |
| 07:47.07 | chuckg | =D |
| 07:48.22 | chuckg | Is that faster than just doing a sub? |
| 07:48.28 | chuckg | For the last character? |
| 07:50.30 | ckknight | sub'd be faster |
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| 07:52.19 | |MoX|Padwa| | anyone can explain why my minimap looks like this http://img220.imageshack.us/my.php?image=untitledjg0.jpg .... simpleminimap mod btw? |
| 07:55.01 | chuckg | Here's to them never making more than 7 chatframes. |
| 07:55.02 | chuckg | :) |
| 07:55.13 | chuckg | They make a double #'ered chatFrame, my mod is in trouble. |
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| 07:57.17 | Diao | lol |
| 07:57.49 | Diao | can't you just do %d+ |
| 07:57.49 | ZealotOnAStick | Wow. |
| 07:57.57 | Diao | for it to check for multiple numbers? |
| 07:58.08 | theoddone33 | weirdest thing, not sure if it's a pitbull bug or not |
| 07:58.12 | ZealotOnAStick | Padwa whatever bunch of annoying symbols person: that's impressively borked. |
| 07:58.25 | Diao | and yeah |
| 07:58.30 | Diao | looks like a graphics glitch |
| 07:58.31 | theoddone33 | fighting firemane scalebanes in dustwallow, they have a mana bar when I pull but not when they get into melee range |
| 07:58.35 | ZealotOnAStick | If you turn off SMM, does that still happen? |
| 07:59.11 | ZealotOnAStick | Tried, say, Squeenix or just a frame mover mod without the border shape changing? |
| 08:00.22 | chuckg | Not if I'm subbing Diao. |
| 08:00.49 | chuckg | In the event if a chatframe featuring dual digits, I'll probably just go back to string.match :) |
| 08:01.36 | Diao | ah |
| 08:02.32 | vhaarr | chuckg: Just match from char 9-end? |
| 08:02.48 | chuckg | I knew I loved you for some reason. |
| 08:03.10 | chuckg | I think you meant 10 though. |
| 08:03.41 | chuckg | But thank you :) |
| 08:03.45 | vhaarr | I skipped math from the 3rd grade up so I can't count higher than 9 |
| 08:05.53 | ckknight | or just char -1 |
| 08:06.21 | [Ammo] | morning |
| 08:07.12 | ckknight | hey [Ammo] |
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| 08:07.47 | NightHawkTheSane | morning |
| 08:07.56 | vhaarr | morning |
| 08:09.18 | NightHawkTheSane | "We tell you over and over again that you're wonderful and you just DONT get it, what's WRONG with you?" hehe. |
| 08:09.55 | Punkie` | i need some par2 files to repair my par2 files |
| 08:15.40 | theoddone33 | ok I'm kind of dumb |
| 08:15.54 | theoddone33 | is there a way to get the status text on my pitbull player bar to give me absolute *and* difference? |
| 08:16.16 | theoddone33 | if anyone can point me to a link of what to type in for "custom", that'd be awesome |
| 08:16.26 | chuckg | Hmm can you do double assignments in LUA? |
| 08:16.30 | chuckg | Xabin, y = 2 |
| 08:16.31 | chuckg | ? |
| 08:16.35 | vhaarr | no |
| 08:16.39 | chuckg | K. |
| 08:16.42 | vhaarr | local foo, bar = 2, 2 |
| 08:16.43 | vhaarr | works |
| 08:16.46 | chuckg | Yea. |
| 08:17.01 | theoddone33 | you have to be extra careful if you're from c/c++ with that |
| 08:17.07 | chuckg | ^ |
| 08:17.08 | chuckg | <-- |
| 08:17.08 | chuckg | :( |
| 08:17.12 | NightHawkTheSane | theoddone33: check the wiki |
| 08:17.30 | vhaarr | theoddone33: there's even a link in the option description |
| 08:18.34 | theoddone33 | cool, found it |
| 08:19.49 | theoddone33 | chuckg: I forget the specific case, but there's a c++ statement that's fairly common where the lua thing means something completely different because of their comma assignment stuff |
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| 08:32.24 | CIA-31 | 03ckknight * r33792 10DogTag-1.0/DogTag-1.0/DogTag-1.0.lua: DogTag-1.0 - change structure again, in preparation for an upcoming optimization |
| 08:34.12 | NightHawkTheSane | "Would you say sleeping with a guitar in your hands counts as practicing?" "As long as you don't drop it." |
| 08:35.19 | doktoreas | hi |
| 08:35.30 | doktoreas | when the emphasis bar come to bigwigs :D |
| 08:35.34 | doktoreas | nice idea! |
| 08:36.16 | [Ammo] | when some people made themselves angry enough to code it :) |
| 08:36.24 | [Ammo] | aka moonsorrow rabbit and co |
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| 08:36.59 | ZealotOnAStick | Yeah. Was a bit surprising tonight. |
| 08:37.09 | ZealotOnAStick | One of the priests in my guild dubbed them the "shortbus bars" |
| 08:37.09 | [Ammo] | it's nifty though |
| 08:37.28 | [Ammo] | now I just need to get some of our nubbers to install NielisAran |
| 08:37.34 | doktoreas | can stand on try them tonight on curator |
| 08:37.44 | doktoreas | ah i forgot to report a bug on the proximity check |
| 08:37.57 | [Ammo] | what bug? |
| 08:38.05 | doktoreas | it do a loooot of items in bugsack until i disabled it |
| 08:38.18 | doktoreas | [Ammo], sorry i have got it in my home pc |
| 08:38.19 | ZealotOnAStick | Oh dear god. How hard is it? Big freaking rings of fire and alerts saying Flame Wreathe = stand the fuck still. |
| 08:38.24 | mitch0 | [Ammo]: could you find out any details about the solo kara chess event? |
| 08:38.39 | [Ammo] | yarr, he sploited it, like that rogue video |
| 08:38.50 | [Ammo] | you can blink into the backentrance |
| 08:38.52 | Roartindon | ZOAS: I've been with a few different groups now, and believe it or not, some people find it freaking impossible....... |
| 08:38.56 | [Ammo] | go around via nightbane, up and outside |
| 08:39.00 | [Ammo] | and then head in from behind the mountain |
| 08:39.12 | mitch0 | [Ammo]: oh |
| 08:39.15 | mitch0 | sucks |
| 08:39.26 | mitch0 | can't it be done w/o expoit then? |
| 08:39.27 | ZealotOnAStick | One of the druids in my guild soloed Chess Event one time. |
| 08:39.29 | ZealotOnAStick | We |
| 08:39.36 | [Ammo] | mitch0: if it's cleared up to chess event yeah |
| 08:39.38 | ZealotOnAStick | We'd had a partial clear, I forget how far up. |
| 08:39.46 | [Ammo] | or close enoguh that it can be stealthed |
| 08:39.46 | ZealotOnAStick | I think to Opera? |
| 08:39.50 | chuckg | If I'm making my own custom SetItemRef link.. |
| 08:39.58 | Diao | emphasis bars? |
| 08:40.07 | [Ammo] | yeah diao |
| 08:40.09 | [Ammo] | you can turn em on |
| 08:40.15 | [Ammo] | they are 1.5x bigger by default and flash red |
| 08:40.16 | chuckg | |HName:someID|h |
| 08:40.19 | [Ammo] | and are on a different anchor |
| 08:40.20 | chuckg | Do I need anything else? |
| 08:40.21 | ZealotOnAStick | and after we were done, he went back and prowled up to the Chess and soloed it. |
| 08:40.28 | Diao | ah |
| 08:40.37 | ZealotOnAStick | as I said . . . shortbus bars. |
| 08:40.37 | [Ammo] | turn em on and hit the test button |
| 08:40.42 | Megalon | well |
| 08:40.45 | Diao | hmm |
| 08:40.51 | Megalon | it seems like you can get through the closed backdoor |
| 08:40.54 | Megalon | with autounstuck |
| 08:41.06 | [Ammo] | I got me some more logs of manatombs and crypts for littlewigs last night |
| 08:41.15 | [Ammo] | seems pandemonius doesn't work at all |
| 08:41.17 | [Ammo] | grrr |
| 08:41.18 | Diao | ahh |
| 08:41.19 | Diao | under bars |
| 08:41.31 | [Ammo] | where else? |
| 08:41.40 | Diao | :p |
| 08:43.06 | Diao | thought it might be under extras |
| 08:43.06 | [Ammo] | haha |
| 08:43.06 | [Ammo] | naah |
| 08:43.06 | [Ammo] | it's an integral part of the bars module |
| 08:43.06 | Diao | hm |
| 08:43.06 | Diao | whoa |
| 08:43.06 | Diao | my chats seem okay with cf2/prat |
| 08:43.06 | Diao | but when i try to type |
| 08:43.06 | Diao | everything is shrunk o_o |
| 08:43.52 | Kirkburn|22 | What do you mean? |
| 08:43.57 | Diao | like |
| 08:43.59 | Diao | in the chat edit box |
| 08:44.05 | Diao | i use size 14 by default |
| 08:44.09 | Diao | for all my chat frames |
| 08:44.16 | Diao | but when i press enter or / to open the chat edit box |
| 08:44.20 | Diao | the font in that box only seems to be size 11 or 12 |
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| 08:45.04 | Kirkburn|22 | The chat edit box is separate to the normal chat |
| 08:45.09 | CIA-31 | 03sole * r33793 10Antagonist/ (7 files in 3 dirs): |
| 08:45.09 | CIA-31 | Antagonist: |
| 08:45.09 | CIA-31 | - Switched from Surface to SharedMedia. |
| 08:45.09 | CIA-31 | - Updated a bunch of data entries. |
| 08:45.16 | Kirkburn|22 | I think I may have fiddled it earlier |
| 08:45.22 | Kirkburn|22 | I'll check in a few mins |
| 08:45.27 | Pneu | is there a default rounding function in lua? |
| 08:45.27 | Diao | Alright |
| 08:45.50 | Diao | round(a,b)? |
| 08:45.57 | Diao | or wait |
| 08:46.02 | Arrowmaster | math.floor(num+0.5) |
| 08:46.06 | Diao | yeah |
| 08:46.14 | Diao | i was just looking at an implementation of it |
| 08:46.39 | evl | Hmms, getting some wierd grey squares in the same textures as other status bars in PitBull now, they don't seem to want to disappear, maybe it's the cast bar? |
| 08:46.42 | Pneu | ty |
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| 08:49.13 | Silviu- | Sole thank u :) |
| 08:49.20 | CIA-31 | 03ammo * r33794 10CandyBar/CandyBar-2.0/CandyBar-2.0.lua: CandyBar-2.0: update the group a candybar belongs to when the timeleft is set. patch by Mikael |
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| 08:53.59 | ckknight | Diao: I do a banker's rounding function in Cartographer_Notes |
| 08:54.02 | compzolol | Hey, if i wanna scan the chatwindow for addon-messages (i.e. self:Print('blabla')), how do i do that? I can't seem to find any events that filters that info.. someone told me to hook ChatFrame_OnEvent, but I'm not that skilled yet :P |
| 08:54.22 | SunTiger | whats bankers rounding ? |
| 08:54.54 | ckknight | SunTiger: it's a way to round that takes care of icky derivations |
| 08:54.58 | Diao | I wasn't the one asking, but thanks :P |
| 08:55.12 | SunTiger | aha |
| 08:55.12 | ckknight | e.g. floor(num + 0.5) will round up nastily in fringe cases |
| 08:55.16 | ckknight | and is asymmetric |
| 08:55.31 | ckknight | banker's rounding goes up one time, down the next (based on the number itself) |
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| 08:55.38 | ckknight | and is by definition symmetric |
| 08:55.41 | SunTiger | so there is a standardized way to deal with that stuff ? |
| 08:55.45 | Pneu | just seen that ckknight, more code than my string.format("%.2f", num) :) |
| 08:55.59 | ckknight | :-P |
| 08:56.33 | ckknight | SunTiger: Banker's rounding is the best rounding mechanism we have. It's what banks and accountants use, as well as the default for Java and .NET's rounding function |
| 08:56.48 | ckknight | WoW internally uses it, as well |
| 08:56.53 | ckknight | the C, not the lua |
| 08:56.57 | SunTiger | someone patch it into lua's math lib. |
| 08:59.01 | CIA-31 | 03ckknight * r33795 10DogTag-1.0/DogTag-1.0/DogTag-1.0.lua: |
| 08:59.02 | CIA-31 | DogTag-1.0 - update info about functions. (Lot of unused info currently, will be used soon - prolly next patch) |
| 08:59.02 | CIA-31 | - fix text tag. |
| 08:59.06 | Pneu | you'd think there would be a math.round() :< |
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| 09:00.18 | SunTiger | pneu, it has the default floor and ceil |
| 09:00.20 | SunTiger | like almost al math libs |
| 09:00.56 | krka | Pneu: which round would you think it should use by default? |
| 09:01.08 | ckknight | banker's rounding, krka |
| 09:01.13 | Pneu | yeh, bankers rounding |
| 09:01.17 | SunTiger | to inspecific. |
| 09:01.24 | ckknight | that's very specific |
| 09:01.30 | SunTiger | no, that naming. |
| 09:01.54 | ckknight | how so? |
| 09:01.57 | krka | isn't bankers rounding kinda slow compared to others? |
| 09:02.30 | ckknight | yes, but it's the most statistically accurate |
| 09:02.43 | Diao | it's also called statistician's rounding i think |
| 09:03.03 | ckknight | or round-half-even |
| 09:04.20 | NightHawkTheSane | meh, just google for it. first result is wikipedia. :P |
| 09:04.26 | SunTiger | bah |
| 09:04.27 | SunTiger | lazy |
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| 09:07.30 | CIA-31 | 03ammo * r33796 10oRA2/ (7 files in 4 dirs): oRA2: SharedMedia is the new hot. |
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| 09:08.50 | CIA-31 | 03ammo * r33797 10BigWigs/BigWigs.toc: BigWigs: Media -> SharedMedia |
| 09:09.25 | CIA-31 | 03ammo * r33798 10oRA2/oRA2.toc: oRA2: surface -> sharedmedia |
| 09:09.27 | Roartindon | wooo :) |
| 09:09.53 | Silviu- | [12:10:39] <F'CIA-31> ammo * r33799 Cbripoff surface -> sharedmedia ? ;P |
| 09:09.57 | theoddone33 | do you guys have some sort of auto-tagging setup, so that the svn version automatically gets into the version info in the mod? |
| 09:10.01 | theoddone33 | or is it manual |
| 09:10.13 | Roartindon | theoddone33: .toc files |
| 09:10.29 | [Ammo] | theoddone33: use svn keywords |
| 09:10.29 | Roartindon | And svn:keywords replacements |
| 09:10.31 | NightHawkTheSane | theoddone33: svn tags |
| 09:10.39 | theoddone33 | hmm, ok |
| 09:10.56 | theoddone33 | been trying to figure out something like that with perforce at work... guess I can't steal your solution then :) |
| 09:10.59 | NightHawkTheSane | stuff like $Revision$ or $Date$ etc can bet set to be auto-replaced in versioned files |
| 09:11.37 | [Ammo] | you have to set the svn:keywords to 'Rev Date' though |
| 09:11.54 | krka | function round(x) if x < 0 then return -round(-x) end local flx, i, f = math.floor(x), math.modf(x) if f < 0.5 then return flx end if f > 0.5 then return flx + 1 end if flx % 2 == 0 then return flx end return flx + 1 end |
| 09:12.04 | NightHawkTheSane | well yes, "can be set to be" :) |
| 09:12.39 | theoddone33 | that's a good feature, I don't recall cvs doing that |
| 09:12.47 | NightHawkTheSane | it had it too |
| 09:12.48 | Pneu | csv did it by default |
| 09:12.56 | Roartindon | cvs has it automatically with the same tags |
| 09:12.56 | Pneu | *cvs |
| 09:12.57 | krka | i wonder if my bankers rounding can be written shorter |
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| 09:12.58 | theoddone33 | maybe I just never used it then |
| 09:13.07 | theoddone33 | at least on purpose |
| 09:16.29 | CIA-31 | 03ammo * r33799 10CBRipoff/ (. CBRipoff.toc core/cbripoff.lua core/frame.lua libs/): CBRipoff: clean up the library mess and switch to SharedMediaLib |
| 09:16.36 | [Ammo] | Silviu-: ^--- |
| 09:16.47 | Silviu- | [Ammo] <3 <3 <3 |
| 09:17.05 | [Ammo] | now which ones did I forget |
| 09:17.14 | Silviu- | Chronometer ? it have ? |
| 09:17.24 | [Ammo] | chronometer indeed |
| 09:17.39 | Nickenyfiken | PitBull-r33747\Health\Health.lua:122: bad argument #1 to 'select' (index out of range) |
| 09:17.45 | Nickenyfiken | anyone wana fix :-) |
| 09:18.50 | ckknight | I have no idea how that can happen, honestly |
| 09:19.20 | ckknight | may just hardcode it. |
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| 09:21.14 | compzolol | How do I scan chatframe for addon messages (i.e. self:Print(bla))? I've tried hooking ChatFrame_MessageEventHandler and ChatFrame_OnEvent, neither of them shows that info :/ |
| 09:21.46 | Roartindon | hook AddMessage |
| 09:21.56 | Pneu | check StopTheSpam? |
| 09:22.32 | CIA-31 | 03kirkburn * r33800 10ClearFont2/Design.lua: ClearFont2: Size fix |
| 09:23.20 | Silviu- | ckknight the new spark works for an warlock for example ? |
| 09:23.23 | Kirkburn|22 | Diao left before I commited :( |
| 09:23.45 | ckknight | Silviu-: I assume so |
| 09:24.45 | Fisker- | hyjal needs a map |
| 09:24.50 | Fisker- | for gods sake |
| 09:24.50 | Silviu- | Hmm, strange where should i see it ? in my mana bar right ? |
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| 09:25.04 | Nickenyfiken | Works on my shaman |
| 09:25.20 | Kirkburn|22 | Fisker- ... which Hyjal? |
| 09:25.24 | Roartindon | Does PitBull has organize raid by groups/class/etc yet? |
| 09:25.54 | CIA-31 | 03ammo * r33801 10Chronometer/ (Chronometer.toc Core/Chronometer.lua libs/): Chronometer: Switch to SharedMedia |
| 09:25.56 | [Ammo] | Silviu-: ^--- |
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| 09:26.10 | CIA-31 | 03ckknight * r33802 10DogTag-1.0/DogTag-1.0/DogTag-1.0.lua: DogTag-1.0 - make the given arguments stay true to their values, i.e. if only a number is accepted, error on a non-number, and if only a string is accepted, then if a number is fed in, it's kept as a string. |
| 09:26.11 | Roartindon | wow, I'm soon going to be able to eliminate SurfaceLib.... |
| 09:26.16 | Fisker- | COT one of course |
| 09:26.19 | ckknight | Roartindon: that's the plan |
| 09:26.19 | Silviu- | [Ammo] i don`t use Chrono anymore, i use DarkCandy only for my warlock :) |
| 09:26.28 | [Ammo] | I use chrono |
| 09:26.37 | ckknight | Roartindon: yea, check the grouping option. |
| 09:26.39 | [Ammo] | on my lock as well |
| 09:26.43 | ckknight | wrt raid organization |
| 09:26.46 | [Ammo] | chronometer needs some work though |
| 09:26.51 | Silviu- | Hmm, i found DarkCandy more nice |
| 09:26.56 | [Ammo] | I'd rather have one timing addon for all my chars |
| 09:26.58 | [Ammo] | than one per char |
| 09:27.03 | Silviu- | Yeah true |
| 09:27.05 | [Ammo] | the darkcandy author should have fixed chronometer |
| 09:27.08 | evl | [Ammo]: I submitted a patch or two for chrono on the post btw |
| 09:27.10 | [Ammo] | instead of creating yet another thing |
| 09:27.18 | Pneu | Sorrens works for me over all chars, but it also needs some work |
| 09:27.21 | SunTiger | heh |
| 09:27.22 | [Ammo] | evl: if they're sound patches commit them yourself |
| 09:27.24 | ckknight | yea, a lot of people want to make their own addon |
| 09:27.29 | SunTiger | people don't like picking up old stuff |
| 09:27.30 | [Ammo] | sorrens sucked hardstyle |
| 09:28.06 | SunTiger | making your own is way more "impressive" |
| 09:28.06 | [Ammo] | chronometer is still the best out there |
| 09:28.06 | ckknight | SunTiger: I tried to hack agUF, I really did |
| 09:28.06 | ckknight | eventually it became too painful |
| 09:28.06 | Silviu- | If Dotimer would be only for warlock and don`t use so much mem ... |
| 09:28.06 | Silviu- | Would be best |
| 09:28.06 | SunTiger | ckknight, agUF is a seperate issue |
| 09:28.06 | ckknight | and it became easier to create my own modular framework |
| 09:28.11 | SunTiger | and you could argue that agUF did not need taking over, it was doing fine, sure it had issues. |
| 09:28.13 | Silviu- | Really i liked it verry much for multiple targets compared to other |
| 09:28.51 | SunTiger | and nobody is going to tell you that you making fubar instead of redoing titan panel was a bad idea |
| 09:29.07 | SunTiger | when is that thing going to DIE anyway. |
| 09:29.11 | phyber | ~seen norganna |
| 09:29.25 | purl | norganna <n=Ken@WoWUIDev/Norganna/Administrator/Norgs> was last seen on IRC in channel #norganna, 21d 10h 29m 32s ago, saying: '2.99 is the development version of what will become 3.0 upon release'. |
| 09:29.25 | ckknight | hey, I tried to hack Titan first, as well |
| 09:29.27 | SunTiger | you were not alone. |
| 09:29.30 | ckknight | then I realized, oh, this piece of shit has absolutely no documentation |
| 09:29.39 | ckknight | and thus, BossPanel was created |
| 09:29.40 | SunTiger | but it was simply eeuugh, cringy worthy. |
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| 09:30.05 | ckknight | and for Cartographer, I tried to read MetaMap and such, and decided it wasn't worth hacking |
| 09:30.22 | Punkie` | evl: get this; |
| 09:30.25 | Roartindon | ckknight: So, how many addons do you run that you haven't created? |
| 09:30.34 | ckknight | quite a few |
| 09:30.35 | CIA-31 | 03evl * r33803 10Chronometer/ (Core/Chronometer.lua Data/Rogue.lua): |
| 09:30.35 | CIA-31 | Chronometer: |
| 09:30.35 | CIA-31 | - AddTimer now accepts an additional parameter for the duration named "pvp" which denotes a spells duration when used in PVP, only Sap is included in this patch. |
| 09:30.40 | ckknight | I recently installed SpamSentry |
| 09:30.46 | evl | [Ammo]: there :) |
| 09:30.47 | ckknight | and I run Bartender3 |
| 09:30.50 | ckknight | and QuestsFu |
| 09:30.59 | ckknight | assorted FuBar plugins |
| 09:31.00 | SunTiger | spamsentry is becoming a nececisty latetly |
| 09:31.01 | ckknight | simpleMinimap |
| 09:31.03 | Punkie` | one of my rogues told me he 'tested' using slice and dice vs eviscerate, and told me that he does a load more damage with just using evisc on boss giths -.- |
| 09:31.10 | Punkie` | giths = fights :P |
| 09:31.16 | ckknight | yea, I think that's it, Roartindon |
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| 09:31.20 | ckknight | oh, I also run Aloft |
| 09:31.22 | Punkie` | the buttons are like, right next to each other |
| 09:31.39 | theoddone33 | slice n dice scales, eviscerate doesn't |
| 09:31.39 | Daemona | SpamSentry = <3 |
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| 09:31.42 | theoddone33 | or eviscerate scales poorly |
| 09:31.55 | ckknight | Roartindon: meh, I'm not into the whole nameplate thing, I was fine with Blizz's |
| 09:31.58 | theoddone33 | so it's possible if his gear or bad, or he's onto something new, or his testing method is flawed |
| 09:32.03 | ckknight | Aloft is slightly better |
| 09:32.04 | theoddone33 | gear *is* bad that is |
| 09:32.05 | ckknight | so I'll run it |
| 09:32.14 | Daemona | had a GM tell me "what addon are you using to create those tickets. makes work easier, i'll recommend it if asked" |
| 09:32.16 | phyber | hmm. SpamSentry. *makes a note*. |
| 09:32.19 | Punkie` | or he's a retard |
| 09:32.22 | Punkie` | i'll go with that |
| 09:32.23 | Roartindon | ckknight: If you do decide to hack it, it should be modular enough not to piss you off.. hopefully |
| 09:32.30 | SunTiger | theoddone33, evisc does scale |
| 09:32.32 | ckknight | meh, I really doubt I will |
| 09:32.34 | SunTiger | only really badly. |
| 09:32.37 | ckknight | I don't care enough about nameplates |
| 09:32.43 | theoddone33 | oh I see... I missed the sarcasm in the original statement |
| 09:32.43 | ckknight | I'm either healing or tanking |
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| 09:32.55 | ckknight | both mean I'm looking at my UFs mostly |
| 09:33.16 | theoddone33 | snd scales as a percentage, eviscerate scales with AP |
| 09:33.26 | theoddone33 | and the eviscerate scale isn't very good last I checked |
| 09:33.27 | Fisker- | on the eu forums the gm's are trying to incorporate some kind of automation between addons |
| 09:33.30 | chuckg | http://wowi.pastey.net/17469 |
| 09:33.33 | evl | Punkie`: you said "get this" and nothing else, typo? |
| 09:33.35 | theoddone33 | anyway... it doesn't matter |
| 09:33.36 | chuckg | Any ideas why this gives me an "invalid character code"? |
| 09:33.48 | Roartindon | what line does it give that error? |
| 09:33.48 | chuckg | I can only assume it's the PlayerName link after a click. |
| 09:33.58 | SunTiger | chuckg, line numbers plx |
| 09:34.10 | Punkie` | evl: check what I said below :P |
| 09:34.14 | [Ammo] | I dont really use SpamSentry, I don't need to send tickets |
| 09:34.19 | chuckg | It's all relevant, but I suppose the strip and SetItemRef are what I'm specifically concerned with. |
| 09:34.22 | [Ammo] | and SimpleChatMods has a good enough protection for me :) |
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| 09:34.30 | Silviu- | [Ammo] ahhh, Xpbarnone needs SharedMedia |
| 09:34.31 | Silviu- | :P |
| 09:34.42 | evl | Punkie`: what the fuck :D |
| 09:34.47 | chuckg | If I do not strip the |H and |h out of it, and attempt to submit, it says invalid character codes. |
| 09:34.52 | evl | Punkie`: anyone not having SnD up 100% of a fight is a tard :/( |
| 09:34.55 | phyber | Silviu-: what's this that XPBarNone needs?! I need a distraction from work :) |
| 09:34.56 | chuckg | Rather, invalid escape code. |
| 09:35.07 | Daemona | [Ammo] i dont want the protection, i want to fuck up those who spam me with 10+ advertises while on an average 4hour raiding night. |
| 09:35.09 | [Ammo] | Silviu-: fix that yourself |
| 09:35.17 | Punkie` | evl: idd :P |
| 09:35.22 | [Ammo] | Daemona: I don't see the advertises :) |
| 09:35.33 | Daemona | i neither. |
| 09:35.45 | theoddone33 | ... actually I recall people saying that seal fate dagger builds did more damage with evis than with SnD if you did a certain pattern, but that was at 60 and it wasn't a pve spec anyway |
| 09:35.50 | Daemona | i click a button before logging off, evilly laughing and heading to sleep. |
| 09:36.27 | Silviu- | phyber SharedMedia instead of Surface :P |
| 09:36.35 | phyber | Silviu-: I'm on it. *hackity* |
| 09:36.52 | evl | http://www.transformersmovie.com/downloads/transformers1_1680.html |
| 09:36.53 | evl | so sweet |
| 09:36.55 | Silviu- | :P |
| 09:36.58 | evl | http://www.transformersmovie.com/downloads/transformers2_1680.html |
| 09:37.02 | evl | i'm more of a destroy guy |
| 09:37.03 | evl | Rogues FTW! |
| 09:37.18 | Diao | mutilate builds probably do more damage with evisc than snd |
| 09:37.23 | Diao | because most of their damage is yellow instead of white |
| 09:37.35 | Diao | up to a point anyway |
| 09:38.17 | Daemona | Diao 41/20/0 to some extent has a goof portion of white dmg |
| 09:38.35 | evl | Diao: what the hell? :)= |
| 09:38.44 | Diao | well |
| 09:38.50 | Diao | i was playing a 41/0/20 spec :P |
| 09:38.52 | evl | You keep SnD up 100% of the time |
| 09:38.53 | nadas | aye, SnD is still the best finished as long as you spec DW |
| 09:38.55 | evl | no exceptions |
| 09:39.01 | nadas | finisher* |
| 09:39.14 | evl | then you evisc whenever you need more SnD and use relentless + ruthless to start another SnD |
| 09:39.15 | Roartindon | hmm.. only XRS left that still uses SurfaceLib in my addons list now |
| 09:39.16 | nadas | debatable if you spec opportunity instead |
| 09:39.24 | nadas | but who would do that :o |
| 09:39.26 | theoddone33 | yeah the only question is for builds that skip dual wield spec |
| 09:39.27 | evl | opportunity spec as mutilate is mega failure |
| 09:39.38 | evl | it's like -50% DPS on the white |
| 09:40.30 | theoddone33 | if you're skipping DW spec for PVE, you're... in need of a bit of help |
| 09:40.40 | evl | PVP too |
| 09:40.40 | theoddone33 | or you're a genius and you can still do damage because you're just that good |
| 09:40.43 | Diao | was using http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=ihebov0sizVoZErc00h |
| 09:40.47 | Diao | not my rogue though |
| 09:40.50 | evl | you're doing stuns in PVP, the white damage is pretty cruel even there |
| 09:40.51 | Punkie` | yeah idd evl |
| 09:40.54 | Diao | it was for arena |
| 09:41.03 | Diao | and i just played it in pve a few times cause i was bored |
| 09:41.04 | Silviu- | ckknight i`m on my rogue now but i don`t see any spark thing :/ could be that i have PitBull_Barfader and that is why is not working ? |
| 09:41.14 | theoddone33 | sub tree helps for battlegrounds, you can only take one of the two so I went opportunity |
| 09:41.23 | theoddone33 | I'm speccing out of mutilate soon though |
| 09:41.34 | Punkie` | mutilate rocks |
| 09:41.36 | evl | I love mutilate, it's a challenging play style |
| 09:41.39 | Diao | mutilate rocks |
| 09:41.45 | Diao | as long as the mobs aren't poison immune |
| 09:41.47 | Diao | if they are.. :( |
| 09:41.49 | Punkie` | yeah |
| 09:41.51 | evl | I'm running muti9late with 5/5 vile and 4/5 imp poisons |
| 09:41.52 | ckknight | Silviu-: honestly, I dunno |
| 09:42.03 | ckknight | Silviu-: I didn't write it |
| 09:42.05 | evl | I got a mates warrior to farm elementals with anywya :PO |
| 09:42.08 | ckknight | I don't take credit for Spark |
| 09:42.19 | Diao | farming elementals on a warrior? o_O |
| 09:42.33 | [Ammo] | spark should do some funky adjusting similar to kenergy |
| 09:42.34 | Diao | i find it much easier to farm elementals on my s.priest than my war |
| 09:42.35 | evl | gather up 3, whirlrind thing and that sweeping |
| 09:42.46 | evl | he's in full AP glad gear with level 2 axe |
| 09:42.52 | evl | stuff dies :) |
| 09:42.54 | Diao | lol |
| 09:43.05 | Diao | sp/afflic lock are easiest to farm elem imo |
| 09:43.11 | Diao | afflic lock is just too cheap |
| 09:43.14 | [Ammo] | hehe |
| 09:43.16 | [Ammo] | it owns |
| 09:43.18 | Diao | dot 4 or 5, HoT and watch them drop |
| 09:43.22 | evl | yeah :) |
| 09:43.48 | evl | I wouldn't swap away Mutilate unless we started doing 25-man only |
| 09:44.01 | evl | It's no secret Combat Daggers are pretty crap in heroic and kara |
| 09:44.20 | theoddone33 | why is that? |
| 09:44.25 | evl | Because stuff dies too fast |
| 09:44.26 | Diao | stuff dies too fast |
| 09:44.31 | Punkie` | I hate combat daggers |
| 09:44.31 | evl | :) |
| 09:44.31 | Diao | lol |
| 09:44.33 | theoddone33 | ah |
| 09:44.37 | Punkie` | its well, boring |
| 09:44.39 | Punkie` | as hell |
| 09:44.41 | evl | Combat Daggers take a long time to "wind up" |
| 09:44.49 | theoddone33 | yes yes, all your damage is white |
| 09:44.50 | Diao | combat fist/sword is ok for 10 mans |
| 09:44.51 | Diao | and heroic |
| 09:44.52 | evl | You're chasing your fading SnD and getting much CP |
| 09:45.12 | theoddone33 | I don't like the windup on mutilate either |
| 09:45.15 | theoddone33 | it's shorter though |
| 09:45.17 | *** part/#wowace Herio (n=Kevin@ekm-s-216-160.resnet.CSUChico.EDU) |
| 09:45.23 | theoddone33 | I only pvp, though |
| 09:45.29 | evl | it's too easy |
| 09:45.38 | evl | cheap -> shiv -> cb mutilate -> evisc |
| 09:45.42 | evl | and someone has much pain |
| 09:45.52 | theoddone33 | at 60 with mutilate I could kill stuff before cheapshot wore off... I miss that |
| 09:46.11 | Daemona | with a fast offhand you most times dont even need the shiv and can do an envenom at the end;) |
| 09:46.18 | Mikk | the 2.0 talents were also bloody OP at 60 in general =P |
| 09:46.23 | evl | yeah, don't ever use envenom though |
| 09:46.25 | theoddone33 | Daemona: are you the same Daemona that's on roguespot? |
| 09:46.30 | Daemona | yes |
| 09:46.33 | Diao | envenom does a ton of damage doesn't it o_O |
| 09:46.34 | Mikk | envenom is mucho dps |
| 09:46.34 | theoddone33 | looked familiar |
| 09:46.35 | Daemona | the one and only |
| 09:46.45 | theoddone33 | I'm wonderdung on there, but I post rarely, especially since I'm rerolling now |
| 09:46.48 | Mikk | unless mobs are poison immune ofc. like all of bloody kara. |
| 09:46.49 | evl | but you lose your deadly stack |
| 09:46.50 | Daemona | you can find me on elitist too |
| 09:47.07 | Mikk | evl: that's what shiv is there for :> |
| 09:47.20 | Daemona | hehe, i rerolled pvp shadow :) |
| 09:47.31 | Punkie` | envenom is misunderstood |
| 09:47.35 | evl | and I wouldn't be too surprised if: (deadly ticks + evisc) > envenom - 5 deadly |
| 09:47.45 | Punkie` | exactly evl |
| 09:47.46 | Daemona | but pve, there has to be more than cleaves and whirlwind to stop me from doing dps :D |
| 09:47.46 | theoddone33 | rolling a pally in the futile hope that I can forge a decent arena team out of people from my stupid PVE server for next season |
| 09:48.05 | Punkie` | using envenom you miss out on around 2 ticks @5 |
| 09:48.08 | evl | can't really use shiv to get the stack up when you need to be creaming out mutils for more cp |
| 09:48.13 | Daemona | punkie |
| 09:48.21 | Punkie` | herro |
| 09:48.24 | Daemona | what do you need envenom for if shit dies after the envenom? |
| 09:48.31 | Daemona | eerhm the DP ticks |
| 09:48.34 | Daemona | i wanted to say |
| 09:48.42 | evl | are we talking DPS here or PVP burst? |
| 09:48.56 | Punkie` | yeah, that's a different situation Daemona |
| 09:49.08 | evl | yeah, i'd use envenom when the target dies BUT |
| 09:49.08 | Punkie` | I wouldn't use envenom for DPS |
| 09:49.09 | Daemona | guess we better open a #roguecrap channel for that :X |
| 09:49.15 | Daemona | agreeed Punkie` |
| 09:49.21 | evl | I usually op for a nice 5cp SnD most of the times when there's another target |
| 09:49.23 | Elkano | who to blame for Incubator? |
| 09:49.33 | Daemona | read the toc elkano ? ;) |
| 09:49.41 | Punkie` | Blame Fisker- for anything imo |
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| 09:49.58 | Daemona | ibut i guess its shieldb |
| 09:50.01 | CIA-31 | 03ckknight * r33804 10DogTag-1.0/DogTag-1.0/DogTag-1.0.lua: DogTag-1.0 - some optimization with regards to how modifiers are called based on what they can take. |
| 09:50.01 | Daemona | @ Elkano |
| 09:50.14 | NightHawkTheSane | ~blame shieldb |
| 09:50.29 | purl | ACTION blames shieldb (and Canada) for all the evil in the world |
| 09:50.29 | Silviu- | Which is better for a rogue, aldor or scyer ? |
| 09:50.29 | evl | scryer |
| 09:50.29 | Silviu- | Oky ;) |
| 09:50.29 | Mikk | sword rogue aldor |
| 09:50.29 | Daemona | Silviu- depends on what you want |
| 09:50.31 | evl | no way mikk |
| 09:50.38 | evl | the sword isn't that good compared to Sorcetars Girdle |
| 09:50.49 | Mikk | hum? |
| 09:50.51 | evl | funny how a blue belt is almost better than T5 :P |
| 09:50.53 | Daemona | evl dunno, the girdle is easily replaced ;) |
| 09:50.54 | Mikk | i didn't mean for gear, which gets replaced |
| 09:50.59 | Mikk | i meant for enchants |
| 09:51.01 | evl | Daemona: with what, deathdealers? :( |
| 09:51.04 | Mikk | which is the only thing that lasts |
| 09:51.10 | Daemona | gronn-stitched with +hit ;) |
| 09:51.39 | Punkie` | New PTR patch :o |
| 09:51.41 | Punkie` | - Skyguard rations changed to 20 stamina/spirit from 30 sta / 20 spi |
| 09:51.42 | evl | yeah but the ugprade is microscopic |
| 09:51.44 | Daemona | as we are de-railing from the wowace discussions |
| 09:51.44 | evl | Punkie`: oaz |
| 09:51.46 | Punkie` | Fishing provails! |
| 09:51.57 | Daemona | rogues, feel invite to jump over to #roguecrap |
| 09:52.12 | NightHawkTheSane | cause there's a lot of important wowace discussion going on here. :P |
| 09:52.26 | evl | yeah |
| 09:52.27 | evl | ALL DAY |
| 09:52.27 | NightHawkTheSane | Punkie`: dammit! /cry |
| 09:52.46 | theoddone33 | I kind of wanted a mod that tracks your SnD uptime + energy efficiency + other useful stats... there I've merged the two topics... |
| 09:52.49 | theoddone33 | :-/ |
| 09:53.34 | CIA-31 | 03phyber * r33805 10XPBarNone/ (Core.lua Libs/ XPBarNone.toc): |
| 09:53.34 | CIA-31 | XPBarNone: |
| 09:53.34 | CIA-31 | - Now using SharedMediaLib, not yet tested. |
| 09:53.39 | CIA-31 | 03ckknight * r33806 10DogTag-1.0/DogTag-1.0/DogTag-1.0.lua: DogTag-1.0 - another optimization |
| 09:54.27 | Cyrez | Do you code whenever you get bored? ^^ |
| 09:54.58 | ckknight | me? |
| 09:55.00 | CIA-31 | 03ckknight * r33807 10DogTag-1.0/DogTag-1.0/DogTag-1.0.lua: DogTag-1.0 - probably best not to spam. |
| 09:55.05 | Cyrez | Yep. |
| 09:55.11 | ckknight | oh yea |
| 09:55.22 | ckknight | this is just how things roll |
| 09:55.27 | compzolol | Is there any site explaining the lua regexp good? It seems to differ a bit from the one PHP uses |
| 09:55.31 | Cyrez | I did that with my MySpace profile, then I ran out of ideas. |
| 09:55.38 | Cyrez | It's not that I couldn't do more... |
| 09:55.41 | Cyrez | (I COULD) |
| 09:55.48 | ckknight | I have a fake myspace |
| 09:55.50 | ckknight | if that counts |
| 09:56.04 | Cyrez | But I wanna be able to look at my profile on a 300MHz AMD without it crashing. |
| 09:56.30 | Cyrez | Which I can, lol. |
| 09:57.00 | ckknight | I have 2 friends :-( |
| 09:57.10 | [Ammo] | lefthand and righthand? |
| 09:57.23 | compzolol | nvm found a site |
| 09:58.06 | Cyrez | I have 65 but I know a number of them from elsewhere/IRL. |
| 09:58.12 | Cyrez | They're just there for fluff. |
| 09:58.38 | Cyrez | I'm buried in WoW most of the time. |
| 09:59.20 | Punkie` | why did I just get cried on :( |
| 09:59.31 | [Ammo] | because you were out ganking again? |
| 09:59.34 | phyber | Silviu-: go test ;) |
| 09:59.34 | NightHawkTheSane | ... They made a movie of the golden compass? *boggles* |
| 10:01.37 | ckknight | anybody want to be my myspace friend? |
| 10:02.13 | [Ammo] | s i l e n c e |
| 10:02.16 | phyber | nobody wants to be friends with people who have a myspace, except for other people with a myspace. (!) |
| 10:03.06 | ckknight | lol |
| 10:03.32 | NightHawkTheSane | phyber: so true. |
| 10:04.59 | CIA-31 | 03ammo * r33808 10PitBull/Aura/Aura.lua: PitBull: make the debuff frame highlight brighter |
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| 10:23.52 | Daemona | hrm anyone know a proc-watch like addon, thats still maintained? |
| 10:24.28 | [dRaCo] | ProcWatch works perfect when you change the toc |
| 10:24.37 | Daemona | i know |
| 10:24.58 | Daemona | but i tried out WUU and it keeps pulling the one with the outdated TOC |
| 10:25.05 | Navv | anyone here use osx and has done extensive work with the socket interface? |
| 10:25.37 | Daemona | ? socketing should be a lua question and not an osx/win question ;) |
| 10:25.55 | Navv | right! |
| 10:26.06 | Navv | i recall some devs here using osx |
| 10:26.33 | Diao | daemona i think there's procwatch updated and a couple others on curse |
| 10:26.47 | Silviu- | phyber works ;) |
| 10:26.52 | phyber | Silviu-: great :) |
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| 10:28.35 | CIA-31 | 03phyber * r33809 10XPBarNone/ (Core.lua XPBarNone.toc): |
| 10:28.35 | CIA-31 | XPBarNone: |
| 10:28.35 | CIA-31 | - Remove commented out Surface code. |
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| 10:40.52 | kebinusan | any good/must have rogueish addons I should get for my alt? Im looking for somethign to make apping poisons easier at least |
| 10:41.38 | SunTiger | there is a number of solutions |
| 10:41.40 | Tenrai | Check the macro section on the rogue forums, there are some macroes out there for applying poisons I believe. |
| 10:41.51 | SunTiger | both for applying and making/buying them |
| 10:42.03 | SunTiger | autobar can apply poisons |
| 10:42.17 | SunTiger | hemlock is pretty nice when it comes to buying/making |
| 10:42.27 | SunTiger | an energy ticker is also nice |
| 10:42.33 | SunTiger | kenergy for that |
| 10:42.44 | SunTiger | and a stun/ ability timer of choice is good too |
| 10:42.48 | SunTiger | and you are all set. |
| 10:42.53 | kebinusan | yeah got chronometer for that |
| 10:43.03 | evl | How did you set up the SVn so commit messages automagically includes the addon name? |
| 10:43.17 | SunTiger | they don't |
| 10:43.24 | SunTiger | everyone adds the addon name to the message. |
| 10:43.28 | SunTiger | and we smite those that do not. |
| 10:43.43 | [Ammo] | tortoise does it automagically |
| 10:43.47 | [Ammo] | at least for me |
| 10:44.02 | evl | yeah but I'm trying to get that behaviour at work :P |
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| 10:53.23 | ckknight | FrameXML diff: http://ace.pastey.net/17500 |
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| 11:18.18 | Sole___ | hey guys |
| 11:18.22 | Sole___ | give me a name for my warrior |
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| 11:18.37 | ckknight | race and gender? |
| 11:18.51 | Sole | orc male |
| 11:19.00 | ckknight | Zuggles |
| 11:19.24 | Sole | ooh |
| 11:19.25 | yacoob | Crushinator. |
| 11:19.28 | Sole | I like it |
| 11:19.35 | Sole | Im likin Zuggles |
| 11:19.43 | Sole | any other suggestions? |
| 11:19.45 | yacoob | Juggles? :) |
| 11:19.50 | Sole | ooh |
| 11:20.01 | Morghus | Novarc! |
| 11:20.15 | Sole | keep em comin |
| 11:20.23 | ckknight | I dunno, I play females |
| 11:20.25 | Morghus | ( which is a bad pun by the way :P ) |
| 11:20.33 | ckknight | my pally's name is Shanti |
| 11:20.55 | Morghus | Oh, and don't make an ugleh orc male. You'll regret it dearly at level 60 when you're tired of him |
| 11:20.58 | Sole | well female warriors just dont feel right to me |
| 11:21.00 | yacoob | My latest bank char in GW was named 'Tricycle Repairman' - because 'Bicycle Repairman' was taken. |
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| 11:21.22 | Sole | Tricycle is a good one too |
| 11:21.46 | Morghus | "Ooooh, that gear looks so cool. How will it look on my char?"....*shivers*... "Forgot he was an ugly bastard...." |
| 11:21.51 | Sole | Morghus: orc males look badass in gladiator gear :P |
| 11:21.55 | Tenrai | "Llarht" |
| 11:23.42 | Sole | hmm |
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| 11:23.52 | Morghus | Tenrai: A friend made an orc with that name. He played for 1.5 years before someone caught on :D |
| 11:24.06 | Tenrai | Hahaha |
| 11:24.29 | Sole | lol |
| 11:24.57 | Morghus | It's true what they say, best hiding spot is in plain sight ;D |
| 11:25.11 | Sole | so Juggles, Zuggles, Tricycle, Novarc is what Ive got |
| 11:25.26 | Elkano | well, it took them almost 2 years to rename Anduilothar ^^ |
| 11:25.34 | Morghus | hahahahaha |
| 11:25.38 | Sole | haha |
| 11:26.07 | Morghus | Oh god... that's worse than Llarht |
| 11:26.28 | Tenrai | Sole, I'd go for Novarc from that list. |
| 11:27.02 | Morghus | You could go for the grand slam of all names: Orcwarrior |
| 11:27.08 | ckknight | lol |
| 11:27.08 | Sole | taken |
| 11:27.13 | Sole | Im on a launch server :P |
| 11:27.22 | Morghus | Sole, log on and report him D; |
| 11:27.26 | Morghus | *;D |
| 11:27.26 | SunTiger | OrcWariorr |
| 11:27.32 | Sole | :P |
| 11:27.39 | Sole | my name will be feared by all of BG9 though |
| 11:27.43 | Morghus | Zorcwarr |
| 11:27.50 | Sole | I want it to be gewd |
| 11:28.18 | Morghus | Archon. More paladinesque, but still a name you'll have trouble forgetting |
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| 11:28.33 | Sole | too RP for me |
| 11:28.39 | Zicon | I like Zuggles. It's not exactly fear-inducing, though. |
| 11:28.44 | Sole | Im a pvper, not a RPer :P |
| 11:28.52 | Sole | Im likin zuggles too |
| 11:28.56 | Morghus | Barky ;D |
| 11:29.06 | Zicon | Sounds like the orc equivalent of a teddy bear. <3 |
| 11:29.18 | Chompers | whats a zuggle? |
| 11:29.23 | Sole | rofl I just mentioned the name Tricycle to my buddy |
| 11:29.24 | Chompers | anything like tribble? |
| 11:29.35 | Sole | "Go for that name..only because I had a friend who had a 3 legged dog and he name him Tricycle" |
| 11:29.36 | SunTiger | hopefully not |
| 11:30.31 | Morghus | Archon's a badass name, but too "RP" :P |
| 11:30.41 | Sole | ^ yes |
| 11:30.52 | Morghus | Novarc's just enough of a bad pun to be cool, but not so bad that it's cheesy |
| 11:31.13 | Morghus | Zuggles and Juggles makes me think of clowns :p |
| 11:31.38 | Sole | my long time guildie's names are something along the lines of Tob, Trecool (renamed to Tredizzle), Pacish, Chanto, Kevinsrouge, Milk |
| 11:31.58 | Morghus | Tub! |
| 11:31.59 | Sole | try to think of something with a ring to it but all the good names are taken =[ |
| 11:32.10 | Sole | omgoogle! |
| 11:32.24 | Tenrai | Dan'Gul |
| 11:32.28 | Tenrai | xd |
| 11:32.32 | Sole | lol we had an R14 warrior called Omgukk on my server |
| 11:32.32 | SunTiger | no ' allowed. |
| 11:32.36 | Sole | I still love that name |
| 11:32.40 | Tenrai | I know, but still. |
| 11:33.52 | Morghus | Easy name - Sol ;) |
| 11:34.20 | Tenrai | "Sole" is taken? |
| 11:37.03 | ven | You could disguise your name, like rogues do: Dárkwárríór or Sólè -_-;; |
| 11:37.28 | krka | IllIlIIlIIllIlI |
| 11:38.05 | CIA-31 | 03ammo * r33810 10SRA/ (SRA.lua SRA.toc SRA.xml libs/ locales/enUS.lua): SRA: Simply Redundant Adjustments |
| 11:39.04 | SunTiger | hmm |
| 11:39.49 | SunTiger | Xésÿtõ that would be a bitch to spell. |
| 11:40.43 | Morghus | Noone's gonna invite you to groups :p |
| 11:40.54 | SunTiger | good! |
| 11:40.56 | yacoob | "Aaaargha" |
| 11:41.04 | SunTiger | maybe it will cut down on the gold seller spam. |
| 11:41.20 | yacoob | - Hey, how did you get such stupid name? - I'll show you - Aaaaarghaa..... |
| 11:43.41 | Morghus | - Hey, how did you get such stupid name? - I was hoping you'd ask - Aaaaarghaa..... |
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| 11:47.48 | Morghus | What did you settle for? =) |
| 11:48.13 | Mikk | Ijustpwndjoo? |
| 11:48.34 | Morghus | hahaha |
| 11:49.07 | Mikk | Ârthãs? |
| 11:49.25 | Mikk | Lëgólãs? |
| 11:50.03 | Mikk | Bendover? |
| 11:50.12 | Mikk | Hmm that doesn't work very well without the capital D |
| 11:50.53 | evl | Meatshield |
| 11:51.07 | Mikk | Cannonfodder |
| 11:51.19 | Morghus | Anyone a paladin-expert here? =P |
| 11:51.30 | Mikk | Expert? No. Have one? Yes. |
| 11:52.12 | Mikk | (Damn. I even think I _had_ a "Cannonfodder" toon in some game. Feck if I can recall what it was tho... some MUD i think..) |
| 11:52.22 | Morghus | Seal of the Crusader, how does it work, and is it better than Judgement of the Crusader + Seal of Righteousness? |
| 11:52.31 | Mikk | no |
| 11:52.52 | Mikk | It's basically just a flat AP increase |
| 11:53.03 | Mikk | You also swing faster but that's compensated for by your attacks doing less damage |
| 11:53.28 | Mikk | It's vgood for skilling new weapons =P |
| 11:53.45 | Morghus | It says that it does less damage with each attack |
| 11:53.56 | Mikk | Aye, that's to compensate for the speedup you get |
| 11:54.12 | Morghus | Less and less, or just less damage that is constant? |
| 11:54.20 | Mikk | Short-short version: You do more physical damage with SoC. But JoC+SoR is even more. |
| 11:54.34 | Mikk | (Holy damage in the latter case) |
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| 11:55.17 | Mikk | Not less and less. Constantly less. |
| 11:55.36 | Mikk | To compensate for you swinging faster. |
| 11:55.54 | Mikk | It's basically a pointless effect really. |
| 11:56.01 | Mikk | Hit faster + less damage = same dage. |
| 11:56.11 | Mikk | But you also get an attacker power increase, which is how the seal really helps. |
| 11:56.34 | Mikk | Of course, if for some reason you're swinging on stuff that dies from one hit, SoC is nice since you kill things faster. |
| 11:56.49 | Morghus | Slightly ambiguous phrasing there. Should be "Hits faster, but with less damage" |
| 11:57.11 | Mikk | I only ever used it for skilling weapons faster |
| 11:57.23 | Morghus | *nodnod* |
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| 12:01.24 | Fisker- | you fail Bibi`ouF |
| 12:01.59 | Morghus | Paladin is the only class I've never played before :p |
| 12:02.02 | Fisker- | hoho [Ammo] very funny |
| 12:02.06 | Fisker- | don't bother |
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| 12:02.22 | Fisker- | next patch we get raped in the ass |
| 12:02.26 | Fisker- | like [Ammo] |
| 12:02.31 | ckknight | Morghus: it's better than I suspected |
| 12:02.32 | Fisker- | vs. me of course |
| 12:04.08 | Morghus | ckknight: I tried shaman, and the whole "Wait for proc for dps" was infuriating, and elemental was "WHAM - OOM" ad nauseum. Worried paladin is the same, but we'll see. |
| 12:04.12 | compzolol | Illumination was too overpowered anyway, it was not like you didn't see it coming |
| 12:04.31 | ckknight | Morghus: Paladins don't do DPS |
| 12:04.41 | ckknight | so the point is moot |
| 12:04.50 | [Ammo] | paladins are healbots |
| 12:05.03 | *** mode/#wowace [+o [Ammo]] by ckknight |
| 12:05.03 | [Ammo] | anyone saying 'but but but' is in denial |
| 12:05.05 | Morghus | Seems there is more interaction with seals when leveling, which is my concern :) |
| 12:05.31 | Fisker- | illumination weren't that overpowered |
| 12:05.37 | ckknight | [Ammo]: they can tank if the moon's in the right position and the warrior's incompetent |
| 12:05.56 | Mikk | bolx, pallies can tank just fine when they can go deep enough in the prot tree |
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| 12:06.15 | Mikk | they're arguably even better tanks against hardhittrs |
| 12:06.20 | Mikk | (more blocks) |
| 12:06.21 | [Ammo] | ckknight: I know, but with the illumination fix they'll lose some of their tanking power |
| 12:06.39 | [Ammo] | Mikk: but paladins will never have enough protection against getting crushing blows |
| 12:06.40 | Industrial | they heal themselves while tanking? |
| 12:06.42 | [Ammo] | where warriors do |
| 12:06.46 | Mikk | huh?! |
| 12:06.48 | [Ammo] | Industrial: others heal them |
| 12:06.55 | [Ammo] | shield block > pally block |
| 12:06.59 | Mikk | how? |
| 12:07.01 | Mikk | why? |
| 12:07.01 | ckknight | Pallies really need better mitigation. |
| 12:07.05 | [Ammo] | yeah |
| 12:07.12 | kenlyric | fight prince, then you will understand :) |
| 12:07.27 | Mikk | well ok, you obviously need base parry + dodge + miss + base block chance to be 70% |
| 12:07.32 | Fisker- | [Ammo] you're talking spiritual attunement |
| 12:07.33 | Mikk | but if you have that, +30% = 100% |
| 12:07.42 | [Ammo] | yarr |
| 12:07.46 | Fisker- | Illumination is 100% mana cost returned when your healing crits |
| 12:07.53 | [Ammo] | yeah ok |
| 12:07.56 | CIA-31 | 03pettigrow * r33811 10Babble-2.2/ (4 files in 4 dirs): Babble-2.2: frFR Update |
| 12:07.58 | [Ammo] | hrmf |
| 12:08.47 | Mikk | kenlyric: prince hits like a sissy compared to maulgar btw =P |
| 12:09.00 | Mikk | 10k crushes up y0 |
| 12:09.05 | Morghus | A friend of mine, paladin since beta, did a test with +crit gear and it's scaling. More raw healing than anyone else, for infinitely longer :P |
| 12:09.09 | [Ammo] | you should not get crushed by maulgar though |
| 12:09.18 | Mikk | absolutely true |
| 12:09.20 | [Ammo] | if a warrior gets crushed he should l2p |
| 12:09.37 | kenlyric | that's kinda the point :) |
| 12:09.50 | kenlyric | those fights are no fun with crushes. |
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| 12:10.10 | kenlyric | wait, I can never keep it straight, what does shield block prevent? |
| 12:10.23 | Mikk | crushes (and crits in theory but tanks should be crit immune anyway) |
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| 12:11.56 | Mikk | on a sidenote, druid offtank on maulgar = win |
| 12:12.05 | Mikk | errr |
| 12:12.05 | kenlyric | o.O |
| 12:12.07 | Mikk | on gruul i mean |
| 12:12.41 | kenlyric | ok, I was gonna say... cause a druid tank on prince makes me a sad panda. |
| 12:12.42 | Mikk | with those 7k hurtful strikes in the face every 15s, a good druid tank can output just as much threat as the warrior MTing gruul |
| 12:13.12 | Mikk | (i've even managed to overtake him :S) |
| 12:13.14 | Health | kenlyric: sad in what way? |
| 12:13.23 | Mikk | cause prince cheats and sunders base armor |
| 12:13.27 | Mikk | bloody bugged if you ask me |
| 12:13.47 | Health | our druid tanks prince exellent |
| 12:13.54 | Mikk | o.O |
| 12:13.54 | kenlyric | hax |
| 12:13.57 | Mikk | they fixed it? |
| 12:14.02 | kenlyric | or incredibly lucky. |
| 12:14.07 | kenlyric | no 5 crushing blows in a row? |
| 12:14.29 | Mikk | that would be incredibly UNlucky since the crush chance is 15% =P |
| 12:14.45 | [DiE]Celeb | 15% 5 times aint unlucky |
| 12:14.50 | [DiE]Celeb | it just happens |
| 12:14.57 | kenlyric | well, for the past two weeks we haven't had a single infernal that hasn't fallen directly on us or the tank. |
| 12:15.15 | kenlyric | I'd say given the rather large size of the area, that's kinda unlucky :) |
| 12:15.51 | Mikk | [DiE]Celeb: at a 0.007% chance yeah =P |
| 12:16.13 | Mikk | well.. per starting blow at least |
| 12:16.18 | [Ammo] | we use a druid OT on Gruul as well |
| 12:16.19 | [Ammo] | works well |
| 12:18.07 | Mikk | hrmz... i'm gonna have to grab hold of a shammy to prince this week and see if 55% dodge > prince |
| 12:18.17 | Mikk | i haven't even tried druid tanking him |
| 12:18.37 | kenlyric | I wasn't there to see the druid tank, so I don't know firsthand. But I've healed this druid on arcane protectors or defenders or whatever they are, and I know it makes me cry then. And they don't hit as hard. |
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| 12:18.54 | Mikk | Crap druid then tbh |
| 12:19.08 | kenlyric | crap gear, I suspect. |
| 12:19.11 | Mikk | mm |
| 12:19.14 | Mikk | well that's what i mean |
| 12:19.32 | Mikk | My dr00d has 47% dodge raid buffed and 19k armor |
| 12:19.41 | Mikk | 55% dodge with grace of air totumz :> |
| 12:19.50 | kenlyric | so, in regards to aggro, what do you think the first lesson a healer learns in regards to healing during the pull? |
| 12:20.02 | [Ammo] | DO NOT HEAL |
| 12:20.05 | [Ammo] | in caps |
| 12:20.07 | Mikk | ^ |
| 12:20.07 | [Ammo] | with screams on vent |
| 12:20.10 | Mikk | idd |
| 12:20.13 | kenlyric | [Ammo]: thank you :) |
| 12:20.29 | [Ammo] | but that priest healing thing can be used |
| 12:20.33 | [Ammo] | since it causes aggro on the target of the heal |
| 12:20.35 | [Ammo] | can't remember name |
| 12:20.38 | [DiE]Celeb | heal with earth shield and/or prayer of mending |
| 12:20.44 | kenlyric | every single goddamn paladin in my guild apparently forgot that between the royal fuckups on firemaw and now. |
| 12:20.56 | Mikk | Earth shield, PoM, Renew before pull |
| 12:21.04 | Mikk | Probably don't want to pw:shield on a complex pull |
| 12:21.04 | kenlyric | prayer of mending is like a double-sexy version ofshield. |
| 12:21.42 | kenlyric | you don't want a dot, because it can tick at a point hwere the tank has taken damage but not landed a threat generating blow yet. |
| 12:21.54 | Mikk | you can hot before the pull |
| 12:21.54 | SunTiger | except if you have 5 hp and a shield for 50 hp, get hit for 50, you are still alive |
| 12:22.03 | SunTiger | but if that shield was a 50 hp prayer of mending you die. |
| 12:22.28 | kenlyric | well, I meant for mitigating initial damage, not dying damage :) |
| 12:22.31 | [DiE]Celeb | well that should'nt be the case on a pull :p |
| 12:22.35 | Mikk | no :> |
| 12:22.46 | kenlyric | I'm a little too PoM happy though, gotta cut back on it. |
| 12:22.52 | Mikk | is that possible? o.O |
| 12:23.01 | Mikk | i mean it's cheap even if it only triggers once |
| 12:23.03 | kenlyric | If a clothy pulls aggro, yes. |
| 12:23.10 | kenlyric | it's like glue. |
| 12:23.27 | Mikk | from the added aggro you mean? |
| 12:23.51 | Mikk | not sure it matters much... a clothy pulling aggro has exceeded the MT by 30% threat |
| 12:23.59 | Mikk | takes a while to work that back if he can't taunt |
| 12:24.06 | [Ammo] | shatter.. |
| 12:24.12 | [Ammo] | my most favorite warlock ability |
| 12:24.17 | Mikk | =) |
| 12:24.25 | sbu_ | haha |
| 12:24.26 | [Ammo] | I try and use it at the last possible time when maulgar goes low hp too |
| 12:24.34 | [Ammo] | so he chases me across the room while the dps burns |
| 12:24.36 | [Ammo] | then I shatter |
| 12:24.38 | sbu_ | stupid ppl selling green gems for 70s |
| 12:24.43 | [Ammo] | he heads back to the other side |
| 12:24.44 | sbu_ | (vencor price is 1g) |
| 12:24.49 | [Ammo] | unless he resists |
| 12:24.50 | Mikk | hahahahha |
| 12:24.51 | kenlyric | sbu_: I love those people! |
| 12:24.54 | [Ammo] | then I'm purple paste on the wall |
| 12:24.54 | kenlyric | free money |
| 12:25.02 | Mikk | i gotta check if there's any like that on our AH :> |
| 12:25.18 | kenlyric | there are two green gems which are > 1g average B/O on my server. |
| 12:25.22 | kenlyric | errr < 1g |
| 12:25.50 | kenlyric | meh, I'm spending way too much time on this warlock build. |
| 12:25.59 | kenlyric | why can't warlocks be simple like shadow priests? |
| 12:26.14 | [Ammo] | huh? |
| 12:26.15 | Mikk | warlocks were dead boring earlier stop complaining =P |
| 12:26.28 | [Ammo] | kenlyric: just spec 45 affliction 16 demo and be done with it |
| 12:26.43 | kenlyric | i'm only level 22. that'll take a while |
| 12:26.53 | Health | haha |
| 12:26.54 | Health | wtf |
| 12:26.56 | [Ammo] | haha |
| 12:27.03 | sbu_ | 43/7/11 :o |
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| 12:30.20 | kenlyric | 31/30/0 looks interesting. |
| 12:30.45 | kenlyric | some of those later affliction talents seem somewhat pvp focused. |
| 12:30.52 | Mikk | indeed |
| 12:31.02 | kenlyric | like a mob ever dispels my debuffs. |
| 12:31.09 | CIA-31 | 03ckknight * r33812 10PitBull/PitBull.lua: |
| 12:31.09 | CIA-31 | PitBull - put quite a few checks in place as well as doing one very important fix in :DestroyUnitFrame to make sure no hanky-panky is going on. |
| 12:31.09 | CIA-31 | - nil groups again on destruction |
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| 12:31.28 | Mikk | kenlyric: having another affliction debuff on the mob increases drain health damage though |
| 12:31.30 | Fisker- | <\3 ckknight |
| 12:31.47 | sbu_ | ckknight: uhm - is this going to fuck up arena stuff again? :p |
| 12:31.54 | [Ammo] | unstable affliction is the bomb |
| 12:31.56 | [Ammo] | it's uber dps |
| 12:32.01 | ckknight | what? |
| 12:32.10 | [Ammo] | 1 point in the 1% damage reduction talent is enough |
| 12:32.16 | [Ammo] | give syou that extra affliction debuff for draining |
| 12:32.27 | ckknight | sbu_: it's meant to fix it |
| 12:32.31 | ckknight | sbu_: please test. |
| 12:32.52 | kenlyric | ooh, that counts as a debuff for soul siphon? that's good to know. |
| 12:33.00 | [Ammo] | yeah |
| 12:33.04 | Mikk | kenlyric: anyway, it's pretty pointless for soloing for sure... you'll just end up drawing aggro from your tank |
| 12:33.10 | Mikk | (pet) |
| 12:33.13 | [Ammo] | I put one token point in it ounly for soul siphon :) |
| 12:33.19 | Mikk | and even fear counts as a debuff for soul siphon :> |
| 12:33.26 | kenlyric | well, if i'm affliction my pet isn't tanking that much. |
| 12:33.35 | [Ammo] | affliction = draintank or fear |
| 12:33.43 | kenlyric | yeah. |
| 12:33.47 | Mikk | mmmmmm not sure |
| 12:33.50 | [Ammo] | I sometimes sick my imp on the mob if I feel it's not dying fast enough |
| 12:33.55 | [Ammo] | pet tank is just slow |
| 12:33.59 | [Ammo] | and worthless |
| 12:34.01 | kenlyric | i've always drained tank as affliciton, voidy tanked as demo |
| 12:34.02 | Mikk | haha |
| 12:34.18 | kenlyric | pet tank is pretty crappy compared to my hunter, which is why I'm looking at affliction. |
| 12:34.23 | [Ammo] | yeah |
| 12:34.23 | kenlyric | he needs Charge :) |
| 12:34.25 | Mikk | i just hate DT tho, and there's none of that with a void out =P |
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| 12:34.52 | Mikk | (my lock is 60 still.. deep affli) |
| 12:35.39 | Tenrai | http://koti.mbnet.fi/hazuki/1176841780333.gif |
| 12:35.42 | Fisker- | i love hankypanky ckknight :( |
| 12:36.44 | Fisker- | :( |
| 12:36.58 | chutwig | trapped foreverrrrr |
| 12:37.01 | Fisker- | HARRR |
| 12:37.07 | Fisker- | you're gonna get raped now |
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| 12:51.48 | Daemona | MT Hyjal will be somechaotic shit :X |
| 12:52.15 | sbu | why? |
| 12:52.23 | Daemona | triggert the first event |
| 12:52.38 | Daemona | 10+ mobs rushing your position aq20 style |
| 12:52.46 | Daemona | counter for 10 (or 12) waves |
| 12:52.55 | Daemona | dunno exactly, they shut down PTR |
| 12:56.18 | Elkano | greetings from ZF? |
| 12:59.09 | Stephmw | Daemona: Hyjal will be some _masochistic_ shit ;) |
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| 13:00.02 | Daemona | hey ckknight i like the mana 5sec tick / rogue energy tick :) |
| 13:00.14 | ckknight | you can thank nymbia for that one |
| 13:00.25 | Fisker- | no need |
| 13:00.30 | Fisker- | we don't like nymbia :( |
| 13:00.51 | ckknight | don't be a jerk |
| 13:00.53 | Daemona | well nymbia isnt here ;) |
| 13:01.15 | Fisker- | :( |
| 13:01.30 | kovi | yeah, it's win, i mean i don't really need it as a mage, but still nice :P |
| 13:01.48 | Daemona | now the only option missing to it is to show sparks only when in combat/stealth |
| 13:01.49 | Daemona | ;) |
| 13:01.57 | Stephmw | oh, I dunno... it's something to look at when you're oom and you've blown all your cooldowns |
| 13:02.33 | Stephmw | heaven knows, wanding something to death isn't the most... interactive of occupation |
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| 13:08.46 | [Ammo] | is the spark as correct as kenergy? |
| 13:08.50 | [Ammo] | I think it might need adjusting |
| 13:08.58 | xyu | anyone know the stats on the new helms bought w/ badges next patch? |
| 13:09.13 | xyu | is there a page up for that? |
| 13:09.13 | [Ammo] | mmo-champion probably has it or worldofraids |
| 13:09.16 | Daemona | i think its not syncing |
| 13:09.33 | Daemona | with energy ticks when they actually happen |
| 13:09.33 | [Ammo] | then that's the only thing it needs, syncing |
| 13:09.57 | [Ammo] | so I can get rid of my metrognome lib |
| 13:10.00 | [Ammo] | kenergy only one using it |
| 13:12.58 | chutwig | new helms? |
| 13:14.09 | evl | I had a screen from world of raids but it's down atm |
| 13:14.18 | evl | http://www.worldofraids.com/img/ptr/newitems/60-badges-rewards.jpg |
| 13:14.19 | evl | tjere we go |
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| 13:26.43 | Stephmw | evl: interesting... any idea why the Cowl of Beastly Rage has a green armour value? |
| 13:26.57 | evl | no idea |
| 13:27.00 | evl | haven't got PTR |
| 13:27.25 | kenlyric | Mikk/[ammo] (other locks too) is this a dumb build for level 24 http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=Ii0rVRbzoZZxx |
| 13:28.10 | kenlyric | Stephmw: green is super cool |
| 13:28.26 | Daemona | naah its just the amount of armor that the item got more than the default armor |
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| 13:29.21 | Stephmw | I don't understand... |
| 13:29.30 | Stephmw | so it's not an enchant |
| 13:29.35 | kenlyric | that number itself shouldn't be green. |
| 13:29.42 | Stephmw | where does the extra come from? |
| 13:29.42 | kenlyric | probably just a typo on the item. |
| 13:29.46 | Stephmw | ok |
| 13:30.40 | kenlyric | it does have more armor than the other leather headpiece, but I can't recall another piece where they'd list armor in green like that. |
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| 13:32.20 | [Ammo] | kenlyric: checking |
| 13:33.03 | [Ammo] | kenlyric: personally I'd have gone with improved imp and demonic embrace instead of shadowbolt |
| 13:33.20 | [Ammo] | leaves you 2 points which you can flush into shadow mastery |
| 13:33.21 | kenlyric | I posted the wrong link |
| 13:33.33 | kenlyric | http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=Iq0rV |
| 13:33.35 | [Ammo] | thhat will in the end be more dps than bane and shadowbolt |
| 13:33.48 | [Ammo] | hehe |
| 13:34.21 | [Ammo] | I'd take improved drain soul |
| 13:34.28 | [Ammo] | instead of supp |
| 13:34.34 | [Ammo] | since you'll be mostly solo |
| 13:34.39 | Amian | whats focus of ur build ? |
| 13:34.40 | [Ammo] | you'll get a nice return of mana |
| 13:35.17 | kenlyric | solo pve only. |
| 13:35.25 | [Ammo] | then definately get imp drain soul |
| 13:35.29 | Amian | solo grinding 40/21/0 i run it on 2 warlocks during lvling and faction grind and its awesome |
| 13:35.30 | kenlyric | I just kill de mobs |
| 13:35.30 | [Ammo] | less downtime |
| 13:35.51 | kenlyric | but that does require me to actually remember to drain soul. |
| 13:35.54 | [Ammo] | specially since you don't have dark pact yet at that level |
| 13:35.56 | [Ammo] | yeah |
| 13:36.07 | Amian | sacrify succy dot 3-5 mobs u end up 75%+ mana/health |
| 13:36.09 | kenlyric | need a mod that will throw away extra soul shards :) |
| 13:36.21 | [Ammo] | necronomicon2 :p |
| 13:36.23 | Amian | once u get used to it u wont forget it |
| 13:36.29 | Amian | necrosis has shard control too |
| 13:36.30 | [Ammo] | anything that does not fit in the soulbag gets destroyed |
| 13:36.41 | [Ammo] | you can even delete all but the shard module |
| 13:36.45 | [Ammo] | and have a tiny thing |
| 13:36.58 | [Ammo] | necrosis is a bit bloaty |
| 13:37.00 | Amian | in solo grinding i set necrosis to keep 5 shards |
| 13:37.17 | Amian | heh well i use it for 2 years so hard to get away from it :) |
| 13:37.25 | kenlyric | yeah, I'm gonna get rid of that quest soul shard bag... who needs 10 at level 20? |
| 13:37.37 | [Ammo] | euhm, it's handy |
| 13:37.48 | [Ammo] | your main can provide big normal bags anyway |
| 13:37.57 | [Ammo] | I'd keep the shardbag |
| 13:38.06 | [Ammo] | keep the bag, install necronomicon2, and don't worry again |
| 13:38.14 | chutwig | i live by the shard bag |
| 13:38.28 | chutwig | 28-slot bag, hide it in onebag, problem solved |
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| 13:38.34 | Amian | http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=IyMriMfzVxZbxckIbz |
| 13:38.40 | kenlyric | especially if ii'm drain souling on every fight, I'm not going to be short. Even if I use everything at once, that's only three. |
| 13:38.47 | Amian | thats what i use atm |
| 13:38.47 | [Ammo] | oh it might not have the itemid |
| 13:39.05 | chutwig | drain soul is wonky until 2.1 |
| 13:39.09 | Amian | found myself using more succy if i use a demon then imp due to CC beeing more required then anything les |
| 13:39.14 | chutwig | so you might want to macro something to pull your pet off it when you start to drain |
| 13:39.22 | Amian | chut: not if u grind without a demon :) |
| 13:39.28 | [Ammo] | grind with imp |
| 13:39.35 | [Ammo] | 45 affliction 16 demo :) |
| 13:39.44 | chutwig | i roll as 44/17/0 |
| 13:41.29 | Amian | i was 44/17/ before |
| 13:41.29 | chutwig | need my fast summons |
| 13:41.46 | [Ammo] | you're missing out on shadow embrace amian |
| 13:41.46 | Amian | what for ? |
| 13:42.00 | [Ammo] | = 1 extra affliction affect -> more use of soul siphon |
| 13:42.13 | kenlyric | I guess the reason behind my question was, should I push down to UA as fast as possible, or should i take demonic embrace early? |
| 13:42.13 | chutwig | take demonic embrace early |
| 13:42.13 | [Ammo] | kenlyric: I took 3/3 corruption |
| 13:42.25 | Amian | if u grind 3+ mobs at the same time u dont have time for unstable affliction |
| 13:42.25 | [Ammo] | then took demonic embrace and improved imp |
| 13:42.25 | [Ammo] | then the rest |
| 13:42.25 | [Ammo] | well unstable affliction is a good source of dps in raids |
| 13:42.25 | Amian | and my 3 insta dots tick for total of 8k |
| 13:42.26 | chutwig | he's levelling, not raiding |
| 13:45.25 | [Ammo] | I'm talking to amian |
| 13:45.25 | [Ammo] | if you don't raid Amian's build is pretty good |
| 13:45.25 | Amian | i used ua on my first lock i got to 70 it was nice |
| 13:45.26 | Amian | now i tried the DS centered build from the beginning on 2nd lock works like a charm |
| 13:45.27 | [Ammo] | amplify curse is sweet though |
| 13:45.27 | [Ammo] | if macro'd properly |
| 13:45.27 | Amian | yah |
| 13:45.28 | [Ammo] | it pwns on curator curse of dewms |
| 13:45.28 | chutwig | heh |
| 13:45.28 | chutwig | i had an amped doom hit mag last night during a banish |
| 13:45.28 | chutwig | 18k thump |
| 13:45.29 | [Ammo] | 18k is unamped |
| 13:45.29 | chutwig | oh, it wasn't amped |
| 13:45.30 | [Ammo] | amp'd is way more |
| 13:45.30 | chutwig | oh well |
| 13:45.30 | [Ammo] | hehe |
| 13:45.31 | chutwig | i think i got curator for 30k+ once |
| 13:45.32 | [Ammo] | mine hit for 18-20k unamped on curator |
| 13:45.32 | chutwig | it was lulz |
| 13:45.33 | chutwig | then i had to eat hateful bolts without any arcane resist for the rest of the fight :( |
| 13:45.33 | [Ammo] | I always eat all hateful bolts with only my gnomisch arcane resistance |
| 13:45.33 | kenlyric | hmmm... we do that on purpose chutwig :) |
| 13:45.34 | [Ammo] | almost all |
| 13:45.34 | [Ammo] | 12.5k hp lasts a while |
| 13:45.34 | chutwig | i have an arcane resist set |
| 13:45.34 | [Ammo] | and drain life and an occasional HoT helps me |
| 13:45.34 | kenlyric | lightwell! |
| 13:45.35 | Amian | Ammo> or ur friendly neighbourhood shadowpriest :) |
| 13:45.35 | [Ammo] | lightwell implies priests |
| 13:45.35 | chutwig | improved runecloth bandage |
| 13:45.35 | kenlyric | this is true. |
| 13:45.35 | [Ammo] | priests are a rare commodity for us often |
| 13:45.36 | Amian | spriest+locks ( in whatever shadow based shape ) makes other dps cry ^^ |
| 13:45.40 | kenlyric | i'm the only one. |
| 13:45.40 | kenlyric | well, that's not shadow. |
| 13:45.43 | kenlyric | our shadow priest makes all dps cry. |
| 13:46.04 | kenlyric | he did 400k effective healing on the first four bosses in karazhan. |
| 13:46.29 | Amian | iv met a DS/Destro lock firespec once poor fire mages all i can say |
| 13:47.15 | FryGuy | fire locks scale better than mages too.. and it's their worst spec for damage |
| 13:47.31 | chutwig | i don't like destro |
| 13:47.47 | chutwig | your mana efficiency goes straight to hell |
| 13:47.47 | [Ammo] | I'v been affliction since 11 feb 2005 |
| 13:47.57 | Amian | well chutwig as destro lock u need ur personal healer kinda |
| 13:48.06 | chutwig | i tried destro yesterday and it was fun for 10 minutes |
| 13:48.07 | Amian | im thinking of giving 19/21/21 a shot for fun |
| 13:48.16 | chutwig | then a 65 demo lock killed me twice with the damn felguard |
| 13:48.18 | [Ammo] | and an affliction lock that doesn't need that healer can still do about your damage |
| 13:48.21 | chutwig | and i sighed and respecced back |
| 13:48.23 | [Ammo] | specially on long fights |
| 13:48.33 | chutwig | because i live and die by instahowl now |
| 13:48.42 | [Ammo] | instahowl is fun |
| 13:48.51 | [Ammo] | actually helps a bit on the manastuff before curator too |
| 13:49.02 | [Ammo] | at least when the group has some nubs |
| 13:49.08 | [Ammo] | it gives them time to focus on burning the big dude :p |
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| 13:49.50 | Amian | anybody tried 0/40/21 yet since the changes in demo tree the 10% natural crit could be kinda fun ;) ? |
| 13:50.05 | [Ammo] | that's another thing |
| 13:50.13 | [Ammo] | all my gear is +dmaage and a hint of +hit |
| 13:50.18 | [Ammo] | no crit gear -> sucky destro |
| 13:50.38 | Amian | well thats why my banks are exploding i collect +damage and +crit gear |
| 13:50.59 | [Ammo] | still wearing my ebony flame gloves |
| 13:51.06 | [Ammo] | haven't found anything with more +shadow yet |
| 13:52.34 | kenlyric | I can't remember if dos is or not. |
| 13:53.47 | xyu | what's the reset time on karazhan 10 man? |
| 13:53.48 | xyu | 1 week? |
| 13:54.02 | kenlyric | yup, he's still wearing ebony flame gloves |
| 13:54.17 | kenlyric | is there another kind of karazhan? |
| 13:54.42 | xyu | no |
| 13:55.17 | xyu | I used to 20 man UBRS |
| 13:55.50 | kenlyric | okey dokey |
| 13:55.57 | xyu | 1 week? |
| 13:56.05 | kenlyric | I suppose you could 5-man karazhan :) |
| 13:56.15 | Amian | Ammo> ever tried shadow lab with 3x aff lock ? |
| 13:56.25 | chutwig | with the amount of attention people pay now in kara |
| 13:56.27 | chutwig | it feels like a 5-man |
| 13:57.05 | kenlyric | chutwig. I'm working ona thesis about that. |
| 13:57.10 | chutwig | it's like MC |
| 13:57.14 | kenlyric | I haven't figure out the correct math. |
| 13:57.25 | chutwig | where we used to jump into the lava and die just to end the monotony |
| 13:57.51 | kenlyric | and I haven't done enough 25-mans to make proper calculations. |
| 13:57.57 | xyu | or the ever popular "You can see rag in that window over there" |
| 13:58.00 | kenlyric | it seems to be just around 70% though.. |
| 13:58.22 | chutwig | better than 40-mans, though |
| 13:58.29 | xyu | Oh i also liked ressing people in the flame pit of domo |
| 13:58.32 | chutwig | where at least 25% of the raid was guaranteed to be afk or stupid at any given time |
| 13:58.47 | kenlyric | no, I'm saying it's always the same percent. |
| 13:58.53 | kenlyric | no matter the group size. |
| 13:59.25 | kenlyric | it's fascinating. |
| 13:59.37 | xyu | so 3.5 people for 5 mans? |
| 13:59.55 | [Ammo] | Amian: most I've done is 2 affliction locks, 1 shadow priest |
| 14:00.00 | xyu | yeah that seems about right |
| 14:00.09 | xyu | rounded down |
| 14:00.33 | Amian | Ammo> we did it once 3x aff lock, 1x fury warriro, 1x dr00d |
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| 14:00.41 | Amian | 2nd boss we could stop laughing |
| 14:00.50 | kenlyric | I'd be generous and round up. Stil, it's fascinating. Even in the same group of peopple, assuming you cut out the dead weight from a 40 man, you still have dead weight no matter how small you go. |
| 14:01.03 | [Ammo] | Amian: he prawned you? |
| 14:01.05 | kenlyric | 2nd boss with three affliction locks must be trivial... |
| 14:01.11 | [Ammo] | yeah very trivial |
| 14:01.19 | [Ammo] | dots keep on ticking |
| 14:01.23 | Amian | Ammo> wasnt the boss we were worried;) |
| 14:01.24 | [Ammo] | even though youre raping the others |
| 14:01.25 | kenlyric | all those fears. |
| 14:01.36 | [Ammo] | a feared person does no dps |
| 14:01.38 | [Ammo] | so that's cool |
| 14:01.46 | [Ammo] | means you're not hurting anyone |
| 14:02.15 | Amian | well we didnt fear each other we joined up and dotted the tank ... blizzards sense of humor ;) |
| 14:02.19 | xyu | one of these days i want to play a class that can be dead weight |
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| 14:02.42 | kenlyric | xyu: dps? yeah, that would be fun. |
| 14:02.49 | xyu | yep |
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| 14:02.55 | kenlyric | and, unfortunately for me, tank. |
| 14:03.18 | kenlyric | our kara on tuesday was fun... the RL would say something,a nd the tank would respond five seconds later. |
| 14:03.23 | kenlyric | it was like lag... without the lag. |
| 14:03.32 | xyu | brain to finger lag |
| 14:03.55 | kenlyric | the shadow priest and a pally started pulling trash. |
| 14:04.00 | kenlyric | just to speed things up. |
| 14:04.13 | xyu | that's a pet peve of mine in mmos |
| 14:04.14 | kenlyric | honestly, it's like they wait for a sign from god to pull. |
| 14:04.14 | xyu | slow pullers |
| 14:04.26 | kenlyric | everyone alive? mana decent? pull. |
| 14:04.42 | xyu | mana shmana, if you're sitting / drinking you're ready for the pull imo |
| 14:05.26 | deltron | as I always say, mana is for weenies |
| 14:05.26 | kenlyric | decent meaning the whole raid isn't at 0., |
| 14:05.33 | kenlyric | which is generally a bad time to pull. |
| 14:06.11 | xyu | I always get the "inc" followed by 4 "afk brb" messages |
| 14:06.40 | kenlyric | pee after boss fights. They're not that far apart. |
| 14:07.02 | deltron | that's why I have a chamberpot in my room |
| 14:07.08 | kenlyric | I used to think I took raiding too seriously, but really, it shouldn't be any different than, say, a bowling league. |
| 14:07.24 | kenlyric | or a softball league. |
| 14:07.30 | xyu | chamberpot = empty mountain dew bottle? |
| 14:07.33 | xyu | siko |
| 14:07.48 | kenlyric | which means, have all the fun you want, but do your job when it's time. |
| 14:08.21 | Pneu | qft |
| 14:08.32 | xyu | My guild has a 15 year old main tank. |
| 14:08.32 | Pneu | even if you only raid 2/3 nights a week, you focus when you do raid :) |
| 14:08.34 | xyu | Oh the pain |
| 14:08.36 | xyu | the horror |
| 14:09.06 | Pneu | one of my hunters is 14 |
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| 14:09.51 | xyu | does he like to yell random things in vent? |
| 14:10.02 | Pneu | she actually :) |
| 14:10.04 | xyu | like "FUCK MY ASSHOLE" that's what our MT does. |
| 14:10.10 | CIA-31 | 03mcc * r33815 10ItemSync/locals/tw.lua: |
| 14:10.10 | CIA-31 | ItemSync: |
| 14:10.10 | CIA-31 | - Add Traditional Chinese translations |
| 14:11.12 | xyu | wonder how long my computer will last w/o a chipset fan |
| 14:11.16 | xyu | so far so good |
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| 14:12.23 | Pneu | man i love click2cast and grid |
| 14:12.35 | Pneu | reminds me of castparty days |
| 14:12.49 | xyu | does click2cast have harmful and helpful catagories yet? |
| 14:13.00 | CIA-31 | 03mcc * r33816 10ItemSync/ItemSync.toc: |
| 14:13.00 | CIA-31 | ItemSync: |
| 14:13.00 | CIA-31 | - modify ItemSync.toc to load Traditional Chinese translation |
| 14:13.20 | Pneu | xyu: how do you mean? |
| 14:13.33 | xyu | say i bind Mouse4 to a heal spell |
| 14:13.36 | xyu | and i label it helpful |
| 14:13.44 | xyu | then i bind same button to like sw:p |
| 14:13.51 | xyu | and label it harmful |
| 14:14.00 | xyu | if i'm on an enemy unitframe |
| 14:14.02 | xyu | it'll cast the SWP |
| 14:14.08 | xyu | if i'm on a friendly unitframe |
| 14:14.09 | xyu | it'll heal |
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| 14:14.15 | Pneu | ah, not afaik |
| 14:14.17 | xyu | same button |
| 14:14.43 | [Ammo] | xyu: /cast [target=mouseover,help] heal; /cast [target=mouseover,harm] painofdeath |
| 14:14.50 | [Ammo] | set the click2cast button to macro |
| 14:14.51 | [Ammo] | and type that |
| 14:14.52 | [Ammo] | done |
| 14:14.54 | xyu | too much for a noob like tme :D |
| 14:15.00 | xyu | clique does that for me |
| 14:15.06 | Pneu | ah yeh you could do it with setting macros rather than spellname |
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| 14:22.19 | Kilroo | I suppose, if all my bags were 14-slot or bigger, I might still want one of those drink-the-right-potion addons even if they can't be used in combat anymore... |
| 14:23.11 | Kilroo | eh. |
| 14:23.30 | Kilroo | hmm, Renegade or Albatross? |
| 14:23.47 | kenlyric | why couldn't they be used in combat? |
| 14:24.41 | Hjalte | shieldb, getting this error when killing random mobs in latest incubator r33782 http://ace.pastey.net/17615 |
| 14:25.20 | Elkano | Hjalte, dito |
| 14:25.53 | Kilroo | From what I was told the other day, I got the impression that during combat WoW has either blocked the logic that picks the potion appropriate to your health level, or blocked anything that evaluates such logic from being able to use the item. |
| 14:26.14 | Kilroo | It is entirely possible that I misunderstood. |
| 14:26.42 | Chompers | Error: CandyBar-2.0 requires PaintChips-2.0 addon: incubator, line: 18 file: CandyBar-2.0.lua |
| 14:27.02 | Chompers | Error: AceAddon: AceOO-2.0: Library "CandyBar-2.0" does not exist. file core.lua line: 313 |
| 14:27.50 | Stephmw | yum, nether ray mounts |
| 14:29.14 | CIA-31 | 03mcc * r33817 10RatingBuster/RatingBuster-Locale-zhTW.lua: |
| 14:29.14 | CIA-31 | RatingBuster: |
| 14:29.14 | CIA-31 | modify Chinese Traditional Translation |
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| 14:31.26 | skylah | Hmm, is there any addon which would allow me to do some custom frames like eepanels ? |
| 14:32.03 | knarf- | if eepanels does what you want, why not use it? |
| 14:33.14 | skylah | afaik the frames what you can make in eeplanels are limited ? |
| 14:33.29 | skylah | so you can't do some tribal frame for example |
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| 14:34.33 | Funkeh` | hi all |
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| 14:39.10 | Jygga | hi Funkeh` |
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| 14:42.07 | ravagernl | Wow, nymbia is my hero, thanks for Spark! |
| 14:42.31 | Punkie` | yo funkster |
| 14:43.33 | deltron | aww supposedly warhammer online is delayed till 2008 :( |
| 14:43.42 | ravagernl | ckknight: Is there any way to get the catingbar BG back when I am not casting, like it previously did? |
| 14:44.17 | deltron | spark? |
| 14:44.44 | ravagernl | 5 second rule for mana users and energy tocker for rogues/druids in pitbull |
| 14:44.53 | ravagernl | s/tocker/ticker |
| 14:45.18 | ravagernl | ehh, yeah, still not getting the perl thing :P |
| 14:45.23 | ravagernl | purl XD |
| 14:45.39 | purl | xD is a one-eyed, stoned, shit-eating grin, or a really funny smily face like :) but better |
| 14:45.39 | [dRaCo] | l2regex ;þ |
| 14:45.50 | ravagernl | LOL |
| 14:45.59 | ravagernl | shit eating grin lmao |
| 14:46.57 | ravagernl | so how would I correct misspelling [draco] |
| 14:47.24 | deltron | s/tocker/ticker/ |
| 14:47.35 | ravagernl | oh lol forgot a slash |
| 14:47.39 | [dRaCo] | yeah, you forgot the last delimiter |
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| 14:48.05 | ravagernl | any other things like that for IRC? is there a list? |
| 14:48.59 | [dRaCo] | someone wanted to make a list of purl's commands |
| 14:49.18 | Kirkburn|22 | If anyone remembers my "dabber" question from a while back, I found the appropriate expression on Urban Dictionary: http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=dab+the+ding |
| 14:49.43 | Kirkburn|22 | (http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=5778.0) |
| 14:52.32 | Groll | lowl http://ranz0r.de/SPARTA/ |
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| 15:00.21 | Kirkburn|22 | Groll, lol, nice |
| 15:00.30 | deltron | work safe? |
| 15:05.22 | Punkie` | ah man that rocks |
| 15:05.30 | Kirkburn|22 | deltron, yes |
| 15:05.35 | Punkie` | just posted it around my office and people were almost roffling |
| 15:08.17 | *** join/#wowace abyssichate (n=aby@81-174-25-204.f5.ngi.it) |
| 15:08.34 | abyssichate | duh, having a Fonts folder in wow folder no longer changes my chatframe font after the last push of clearfont |
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| 15:13.04 | Kirkburn|22 | Are you saying that's a bad thing or a good thing? |
| 15:15.43 | abyssichate | It is a bad thing because now I really don't knwo how to override the default font |
| 15:18.29 | shieldb | Hjalte, when you say killing random mobs do you mean stuff that's supposed to be tracked or stuff while you're running around farming or whatever? |
| 15:18.34 | sedatedChipmunk | lol users can turn off displaying interface errors |
| 15:18.36 | Kirkburn|22 | abyssichate, I still don't understand - are you using r33800? |
| 15:18.42 | Hjalte | Just mobs outside of instances and such shieldb :) |
| 15:18.58 | sedatedChipmunk | that won't be annoying at all |
| 15:18.58 | Kirkburn|22 | I reverted to normal functionality |
| 15:18.58 | Hjalte | Not any that needed to be tracked at all |
| 15:18.58 | shieldb | hmm |
| 15:20.44 | Hjalte | Just got the error in zangarmarsh, 7 times :) |
| 15:21.10 | abyssichate | Yes, Kirkburn|22 |
| 15:22.15 | abyssichate | I tried to remove the "Fonts" folder I created yesterday, run the game as normal (as it always worked before the mess with prat/Cf2) and I only had my addon text font changed while the chatframe had the default one |
| 15:22.26 | _art3mis | is there a horde pally trainer on kalimdor? |
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| 15:24.03 | Kirkburn|22 | Absolutely sure you have r33800? |
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| 15:26.00 | abyssichate | yes |
| 15:26.07 | Kirkburn|22 | Works for me |
| 15:26.14 | abyssichate | I even got Changelog-ClearFont2-r33800.txt in my directory :s |
| 15:26.35 | Kirkburn|22 | I just renamed my fonts folder, works fine :P |
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| 15:27.15 | abyssichate | and so did I |
| 15:28.27 | Kirkburn|22 | Well, er, we're kinda schtuck |
| 15:28.27 | Kirkburn|22 | Try replacing it with a new download |
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| 15:29.36 | abyssichate | okei, I'll try it |
| 15:29.36 | abyssichate | can it be because I am using a font from a fontpack? |
| 15:29.45 | abyssichate | but addons are clearly being affected by the forced font |
| 15:30.27 | CIA-31 | 03shieldb * r33818 10Incubator/Core.lua: Incubator: drycode fix for EmptyCombatList being called when it shouldn't be |
| 15:30.41 | shieldb | Hjalte, give that a try |
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| 15:31.17 | Hjalte | I will, as soon at it hits the zipped downloads :) |
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| 15:34.20 | sedatedChipmunk | it's just one file; you can just download and overwrite pretty easy |
| 15:34.57 | CIA-31 | 03beerke * r33819 10KingOfTheJungle/KingOfTheJungle.lua: |
| 15:34.57 | CIA-31 | KingOfTheJungle : |
| 15:34.57 | CIA-31 | - Don't scan bags every time a BAG_UPDATE occurs. Made bucket_event with 30s cd. |
| 15:35.01 | sedatedChipmunk | http://svn.wowace.com/wowace/trunk/Incubator/Core.lua |
| 15:35.46 | Kirkburn|22 | abyssichate, you have to reload to change the chatfont |
| 15:35.55 | Kirkburn|22 | I should add that to the notes |
| 15:42.55 | abyssichate | I restarted WoW everytime |
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| 15:53.32 | abyssichate | I think I got it, it seems to work only for fonts that are included in the main installation of CF2 and are not in fontpacks |
| 15:54.04 | Kirkburn|22 | Odd, I don't know why that might be |
| 15:58.52 | FISKER_Q | it's getting hot in here |
| 15:58.54 | FISKER_Q | and so on |
| 15:59.21 | Kirkburn|22 | You so horny! |
| 15:59.49 | FISKER_Q | that's because i contributed to wowwiki |
| 16:00.12 | Kirkburn|22 | Ahmagad |
| 16:01.09 | FISKER_Q | bah |
| 16:01.16 | FISKER_Q | i put my blood in that article |
| 16:01.30 | FISKER_Q | my friends threatened me with slavery and death |
| 16:01.44 | Kirkburn|22 | Well, you could be like certain other people and complain about their treatment on the wiki but never give me their username |
| 16:01.54 | Kirkburn|22 | Makes me totally want to believe them :P |
| 16:02.23 | Kirkburn|22 | Godsdammit, Checkout fer goodness sake |
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| 16:02.40 | Kirkburn|22 | Is it just me? Can others checkout atm? |
| 16:02.40 | FISKER_Q | My username is self-explanatory |
| 16:02.45 | FISKER_Q | unno |
| 16:02.49 | FISKER_Q | dunno* |
| 16:02.50 | FISKER_Q | not using svn |
| 16:03.31 | FISKER_Q | I reported a person i have no affiliation with whatsoever on a level 1 warrior called "Lolwut" based on what i read in a newspaper |
| 16:03.35 | FISKER_Q | I did it for the lulz :( |
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| 16:09.47 | vhaarr | Kirkburn: dev borked for you as well? |
| 16:09.57 | Kirkburn | Aye |
| 16:10.05 | vhaarr | alright |
| 16:10.08 | Kirkburn | I was planning on making pointless updates too :( |
| 16:10.26 | Kirkburn | uh, not that I'm saying your updates are pointless |
| 16:10.28 | Kirkburn | Just mine |
| 16:13.55 | FISKER_Q | I would like to subscribe to your newsletter |
| 16:15.55 | evl | Anyone know who wrote PitBull Spark? |
| 16:16.04 | evl | I could propfind that but hehe :D |
| 16:16.06 | sedatedChipmunk | nymbia |
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| 16:17.26 | FISKER_Q | hmm |
| 16:17.34 | FISKER_Q | is it in branches or what? |
| 16:18.05 | sbu | nope, included in pitbull |
| 16:18.13 | FISKER_Q | oh wut |
| 16:18.18 | sbu | if you are talking about spark |
| 16:18.49 | FISKER_Q | oh snap |
| 16:19.05 | FISKER_Q | (i.e. pretty awesome) |
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| 16:23.10 | Kirkburn | Like, wtf ... why is the download of r33800 preventing Ace addons from working?! |
| 16:23.30 | evl | dev is borked |
| 16:23.33 | Kirkburn | Pretty much everyone is telling me that it stops Ace addons |
| 16:23.48 | Kirkburn | I got the download when it was working though |
| 16:24.23 | Kirkburn | I just took the folder off /files and uploaded that |
| 16:24.29 | chutwig | i am in the mood to debug things |
| 16:24.43 | Kirkburn | chutwig, can YOU work it out? :) |
| 16:24.52 | chutwig | are YOU a bad enough dude to save the president |
| 16:25.18 | chutwig | i don't like that show |
| 16:25.57 | sbu | meh |
| 16:26.01 | sbu | WTB black belt of knowledge :/ |
| 16:26.17 | FISKER_Q | hmm |
| 16:26.23 | FISKER_Q | doesn't even seem to work that power spark |
| 16:27.04 | evl | works for me |
| 16:27.05 | evl | rogue that is |
| 16:27.21 | chutwig | why won't the energy meter work with my paladin >:( |
| 16:27.43 | sedatedChipmunk | it's supposed to do mana too |
| 16:27.52 | sedatedChipmunk | but it doesn't |
| 16:28.01 | FISKER_Q | ah |
| 16:28.24 | sedatedChipmunk | as far as I can tell, it's sole purpose is to make us wonder wtf is being done |
| 16:28.26 | chutwig | *seufz* |
| 16:28.29 | Kirkburn | So I copy the exact copy from /files and test that |
| 16:28.31 | sedatedChipmunk | s/it's/its/ |
| 16:28.31 | Kirkburn | It works. |
| 16:28.49 | chutwig | i just updated to 33800 and loaded in and nothing seems out of the ordinary |
| 16:28.58 | chutwig | bugsack hasn't crapped itself yet |
| 16:29.21 | undu | Same here. |
| 16:29.30 | harldephin | Pitbull question: can Party and Party pets be combined somehow ? |
| 16:29.46 | Kirkburn | Loaded ClearFont on its own too, no probs |
| 16:30.21 | FISKER_Q | harldephin not really however i just modified the grouping settings to make it fit |
| 16:30.30 | chutwig | i mostly want to see whether pitbull is still going to get all wobbly with raids |
| 16:31.53 | ravagernl | harldephin, partypets and partytargets leave space open in a place where a pet or target should be |
| 16:32.20 | Kirkburn | Now to try with a version downloaded from the UI sites |
| 16:32.34 | harldephin | my point is that i like to have all unit frames without additional spaces that are left open when there's no pet for that party member |
| 16:33.02 | ravagernl | I have my partypet/partytarget to the right of my partyframe |
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| 16:33.10 | chutwig | Kirkburn: bug testing is for communists, just blame the users |
| 16:33.26 | ravagernl | buffs below partymember, 5 debuffs to the left of the partymember, growing down |
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| 16:34.22 | ravagernl | I can give you my savedvars harldephin if you want |
| 16:34.45 | Kirkburn | chutwig, every single user with Ace addons?! |
| 16:34.51 | chutwig | Kirkburn: yes! |
| 16:35.03 | chutwig | i dunno, if you can't reproduce the bug, what is there to say |
| 16:35.09 | Amian | http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=AZcxczIiz0xsxxxbtM0z |
| 16:35.09 | Kirkburn | Neither can I! :( |
| 16:35.11 | Amian | meh |
| 16:35.15 | Kirkburn | argh |
| 16:35.22 | chutwig | everything is perfectly in order for me right now |
| 16:35.25 | chutwig | surprisingly |
| 16:35.29 | Amian | too many chatwindows open error ... |
| 16:35.57 | chutwig | waiting for pitbull to go ballistic |
| 16:38.56 | chuckg | string.gsub(str, "||", "|") not working. Thoughts? |
| 16:39.08 | chuckg | Just want to make any double || into a single. |
| 16:40.08 | shieldb | Hjalte, did that fix it, or still breaking? |
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| 16:40.28 | harldephin | ravagernl: no thanks, i already have my pitbull set up otherwise. but there'd be no space for party pets targets with your setup when i put it that way. |
| 16:41.19 | chutwig | why not put them on the right side? |
| 16:44.42 | CIA-31 | 03gagorian * r33821 10DrDamage/ (BuffScanning.lua DrDamage.lua): |
| 16:44.42 | CIA-31 | DrDamage: |
| 16:44.42 | CIA-31 | -Fixed issue with s.priest shadow vulnerability |
| 16:45.07 | Hjalte | shieldb, just downloaded the new version. Logging in now. |
| 16:46.02 | shieldb | woo woo |
| 16:46.08 | shieldb | I'm at work, otherwise I'd check myself ;) |
| 16:48.05 | Hjalte | shieldb, just killed a couple of mobs and didnt get any errors |
| 16:48.09 | CIA-31 | 03roartindon * r33822 10Aloft/ (5 files in 2 dirs): |
| 16:48.09 | CIA-31 | Aloft |
| 16:48.09 | CIA-31 | - Removed NPCTagText module |
| 16:48.09 | CIA-31 | - Added CommentText module which does essentially the same thing |
| 16:48.09 | CIA-31 | - CommentData will allow comments to be attached to any unit name (not to just NPC targets that NPCTagData restricted it to) |
| 16:48.15 | shieldb | that's a start, anyways :) |
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| 16:53.24 | CIA-31 | 03kirkburn * r33823 10ClearFont2/ (Changelog.txt ClearFont2.toc Readme.txt libs/): |
| 16:53.24 | CIA-31 | ClearFont2: |
| 16:53.24 | CIA-31 | * Attempts at fixing the issues people are seeing |
| 16:53.24 | CIA-31 | * Updated libs (hopefully) |
| 16:53.24 | CIA-31 | * Updated Changelog.txt |
| 16:53.53 | FrostByghte | ckknight: kudos on the latest pitbull...really looking nice, very pleased with the rep bar put in |
| 16:55.12 | sergio | is there any way to have click2cast work with moused over units in the actual game |
| 16:55.26 | yacoob | http://www.engadget.com/2007/04/26/london-hit-by-malware-infected-usb-ruse/ - neat |
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| 16:59.43 | vhaarr | sergio: no |
| 16:59.53 | vhaarr | err |
| 17:00.03 | vhaarr | maybe you can use macros with target=mouseover |
| 17:00.48 | sergio | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:00.53 | sergio | here's what i have but it will only work on frames |
| 17:00.59 | sergio | so I assume there's no support |
| 17:01.02 | sergio | :| |
| 17:01.16 | vhaarr | well it's not so much if C2C supports it, it's more a question if WoW |
| 17:01.19 | vhaarr | *allows you* |
| 17:01.22 | sergio | ah |
| 17:01.25 | sergio | it would be cool |
| 17:01.28 | sergio | for pvp especially |
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| 17:10.28 | sergio | I don't see why it wouldn't allow you. I made a simple macro and bound it to an action bar key. |
| 17:10.33 | sergio | worked fine |
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| 17:12.17 | the_squid | does your mining skill level influence the chance of gem drops from a particular vein? |
| 17:12.35 | sergio | nope |
| 17:12.41 | sergio | just the chance of success |
| 17:12.45 | sergio | or failure |
| 17:12.56 | the_squid | so I no longer need +mining gloves at 375? |
| 17:13.28 | Bruners | depends, khorium can be a bitch |
| 17:13.42 | the_squid | good point |
| 17:13.48 | Bruners | have failed 3 times in a row on khorium without gloves |
| 17:14.04 | sergio | next patch I think I read that max gathering skills will no longer fail when gathering |
| 17:14.04 | vhaarr | In 2.1, you can no longer fail at max skill. |
| 17:14.05 | the_squid | i could have sworn I did heaps better for gems out of copper etc at 375... hmm |
| 17:14.40 | sergio | could just be luck |
| 17:14.44 | kenlyric | such a sexy change to combat the fact that you're going to have to fight a lot more for minerals. |
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| 17:14.52 | the_squid | yeah |
| 17:15.04 | sergio | i like it because no more 65 alts mining adamantite |
| 17:15.09 | the_squid | this makes me tempted to fire up excel |
| 17:15.10 | kenlyric | once again, blizzard catering to the casuals who can't be bothered to get an epic mount. |
| 17:15.10 | sergio | get out of my zone |
| 17:15.25 | CIA-31 | 03kirkburn * r33824 10ClearFont2/ (Changelog.txt ClearFont2.toc Core.lua Design.lua): ClearFont2: More minor updates |
| 17:15.38 | Ominous | if you do for i = 1, -1 do will ir go -1, 0, 1 or 1, 0. -1 |
| 17:15.49 | kenlyric | sergio, it's designed to help those people. |
| 17:16.11 | kenlyric | so us 70s can't dive in and get it without clearing mobs. |
| 17:16.51 | sergio | maybe so but I don't see 65s alts killing shit in nagrand as fast as I can |
| 17:17.19 | kenlyric | if they're smart, they fear, pick, then run away. |
| 17:17.23 | sergio | I wonder if pet growl + mining will work |
| 17:17.27 | the_squid | kenlyric, do you remeber how annoying that was in hellfire? |
| 17:17.27 | sergio | that's what i'll do |
| 17:17.33 | kenlyric | sergio: absolutely. |
| 17:17.39 | the_squid | clearing all the buzzards to have someone drop out of the sky and nick your fel iron? |
| 17:17.42 | kenlyric | the_squid: how annnoying what was? |
| 17:17.45 | kenlyric | uh, no. |
| 17:17.51 | kenlyric | I levelled with the rest of my server :) |
| 17:17.55 | the_squid | heh |
| 17:18.04 | the_squid | working + studying doesn't give me enough time |
| 17:18.15 | the_squid | but yeah, i was into the portal about 1wk after crusade came out |
| 17:18.18 | kenlyric | and yes, I could see that as annoying :) |
| 17:18.21 | the_squid | it is |
| 17:18.27 | the_squid | esp. as you have to clear mobs |
| 17:18.30 | kenlyric | I don't do it personally. |
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| 17:18.41 | the_squid | no, i mean, any reasonable person would offer to roll or something |
| 17:18.47 | kenlyric | I also farm only in the morningg, when no one is around. |
| 17:18.52 | the_squid | heh |
| 17:18.54 | the_squid | I farm... now |
| 17:18.55 | sedatedChipmunk | i always use my pet to cover me while mining |
| 17:18.57 | the_squid | when does it count as now? |
| 17:18.58 | kenlyric | nah, if I'm flying and see someone clearing, I just go somewhere else. |
| 17:19.14 | sedatedChipmunk | then put him on passive, FD, and fly away |
| 17:19.15 | kenlyric | I can get to the next node and make it gone before they get done there :) |
| 17:19.38 | kenlyric | I generally fight, or fear if someone is closing in. |
| 17:20.18 | kenlyric | I hate mining so much more than herbing... just give me all the damn ores in one hit. |
| 17:20.18 | Antiarc|Wor1 | Hm. Is there a built-in serializer/deserializer for tables? |
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| 17:21.46 | sedatedChipmunk | and there's always freeze trap or scare beast if it's just one |
| 17:21.53 | vhaarr | Antiarc: no |
| 17:22.20 | Antiarc|Work | Meh, thought as much. |
| 17:22.32 | vhaarr | Antiarc: It's trivial to write it though |
| 17:22.50 | Antiarc|Work | Yeah, I suspect it would be. I'm just lazy. |
| 17:23.14 | Antiarc|Work | I'm wanting to basically enable people to copy/paste settings strings for a mod |
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| 17:23.53 | Antiarc|Work | So you serialize a settings table, copy/paste, someone else opens the loader, pastes in the serialized table, and it applies the settings for them. |
| 17:23.57 | vhaarr | ~seen ag` |
| 17:24.58 | purl | ag` <n=ag`@0x503e79d4.bynxx18.adsl-dhcp.tele.dk> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 3d 13h 8m 11s ago, saying: 'nn'. |
| 17:24.58 | vhaarr | Antiarc: Shouldn't be too much trouble. |
| 17:24.58 | Antiarc|Work | Nah, don't expect it would be. |
| 17:24.58 | Kirkburn | Can someone knowledgeable check that ClearFont2 has all the right libs? |
| 17:25.56 | sedatedChipmunk | anyone know of someplace that has maps of instance chest spawns? |
| 17:27.36 | vhaarr | Kirkburn: Looks good. |
| 17:28.03 | Kirkburn | vhaarr, thanks for taking a look |
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| 17:28.34 | Ominous | is this an ok script to run on update every half second? http://ace.pastey.net/17698 |
| 17:28.35 | Kirkburn | Weirdly, when I load only ClearFont2 it doesn't load it until I open the options |
| 17:29.04 | Kirkburn | vhaarr, I can't get the "not loading Ace addons" problem to show though |
| 17:29.22 | Kirkburn | Do you think it could be a lib issue with other Ace addons? |
| 17:29.23 | vhaarr | Ominous: Where is 'x' set? |
| 17:29.31 | vhaarr | Kirkburn: I don't know what problem that is. |
| 17:29.38 | Ominous | oh thats just an api function i hadent looked up |
| 17:29.50 | Kirkburn | Basically people are saying that it's preventing other Ace addons from working |
| 17:30.21 | vhaarr | Kirkburn: CF2? |
| 17:30.24 | vhaarr | Kirkburn: Works fine here. |
| 17:30.25 | Kirkburn | aye |
| 17:30.38 | knarf- | my auctioneer and ratingbuster still does not load :< |
| 17:31.15 | Ominous | vharr: actually its just the number for the max num target debuffs |
| 17:31.15 | Ominous | vhaarr* |
| 17:31.15 | knarf- | and postal is still enabling block trades :/ i'ts annoying :< |
| 17:32.00 | vhaarr | Ominous: you can remove the if x < 1, and there's 1 too many |end|. |
| 17:32.08 | Ominous | yea i know about that |
| 17:32.10 | vhaarr | Ominous: also if you can avoid :TriggerEvent that would be better |
| 17:32.14 | vhaarr | since it's not cheap |
| 17:32.18 | vhaarr | or well |
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| 17:32.28 | vhaarr | it's cheaper to just invoke your handler directly if possible |
| 17:32.35 | Ominous | what do u mean |
| 17:33.15 | vhaarr | I mean if you don't really need to trigger an event, then don't |
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| 17:33.18 | Ominous | though the trigger event is only called when the time left has been changed so not every update |
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| 17:35.05 | CIA-31 | 03beerke * r33825 10KingOfTheJungle/KingOfTheJungle.lua: |
| 17:35.05 | CIA-31 | KingOfTheJungle : |
| 17:35.05 | CIA-31 | - Dropped the BAG_UPDATE event for updating popup buttons. |
| 17:36.11 | kenlyric | how does KotJ choose my food? |
| 17:36.24 | kenlyric | I've tried rearranging stuff in my bags, but it doesn't seem to help. |
| 17:36.54 | Ominous | vhaarr: i could even add in another paremeter so it only updates the table and calls it if the mod is set to use that debuff if that wld help |
| 17:37.12 | vhaarr | Ominous: point is that the less processing you do in the update, the better. |
| 17:37.34 | harldephin | argh. party pets are stuck to my mouse cursor.. |
| 17:37.35 | vhaarr | which, of course, you already know |
| 17:38.11 | Ominous | tho i suppose its only calling if its your own debuffs anyway so it dosent matter but for buffs i suppose it will be different and so will maybe need to be changed to add that |
| 17:38.47 | CIA-31 | 03jerry * r33826 10Talented/ (matrix.lua talents.lua): Talented: use icon offset option when creating frames. |
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| 17:40.15 | Kirkburn | Mmm, nice |
| 17:40.18 | rubik | Antiarc|Work: ping |
| 17:40.24 | Antiarc|Work | Pong |
| 17:40.54 | rubik | can you please add 'Avoidance' to dropdown for sig maker? very useful for us tanks.. it'd be calculated.. |
| 17:41.11 | Elkano | and tankpoints ;) |
| 17:41.22 | Antiarc|Work | I'm just dumping raw XML data right now |
| 17:41.31 | Antiarc|Work | Not doing a whole lot of calculation |
| 17:41.35 | rubik | really? i swore i saw at least one thing that was calculated |
| 17:41.46 | Antiarc|Work | I think defense is |
| 17:41.48 | rubik | it'd be very simple... just adding 3-4 values together |
| 17:41.55 | FISKER_Q | Antiarc needs to do something i can figure out :P |
| 17:41.56 | Antiarc|Work | If it's just addition that should be easy |
| 17:42.12 | rubik | Avoidance % = %Block + %NPC Miss Rate + %Parry |
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| 17:42.31 | undu | no dodge? |
| 17:43.09 | FISKER_Q | block isn't really avoidance isn't it? |
| 17:43.14 | FISKER_Q | is it?* |
| 17:43.25 | FISKER_Q | I mean you only block like some of the damage right? |
| 17:43.33 | undu | Yep. |
| 17:43.37 | Tornhoof | it's dodge too |
| 17:43.41 | rubik | let me double check real quick |
| 17:43.41 | Megalon | dodge, parry and miss are avoidance |
| 17:43.48 | Megalon | block is migitation |
| 17:43.53 | Antiarc|Work | Avoidance is in. though it doesn't include the 5% mob miss |
| 17:44.00 | rubik | yes, sorry.. meant %Dodge, not block |
| 17:44.03 | Antiarc|Work | Well, block is kinda avoidance |
| 17:44.14 | Antiarc|Work | Since it lets you avoid crushings |
| 17:44.18 | rubik | so Avoidance % = % Dodge + % NPC Miss Rate (off Armor xml data) + % Parry |
| 17:44.28 | FISKER_Q | Isn't the NPC miss rate fixed? |
| 17:44.33 | Antiarc|Work | Yeah, 5% |
| 17:44.38 | rubik | the avoidance i'm looking for is % of npc hits against you that... well.. don't hit you |
| 17:44.47 | Ominous | argh how can you make an old revision the current one svn merge -r HEAD:oldrev dosent work and cant work it out |
| 17:44.56 | rubik | so not interested in block % added in.. that can stay separate |
| 17:44.58 | Megalon | well defense increases the miss rate |
| 17:45.03 | Megalon | of mobs |
| 17:45.08 | rubik | yes, defense increases miss rate |
| 17:45.09 | Megalon | your defense of course |
| 17:45.25 | fleetfoot | Omnious: Why are you doing it in an OnUpdate thing instead of listening to the UNIT_AURA event and then itterating through the debuffs? |
| 17:45.30 | rubik | ie. 523 defense is 6.92% npc miss rate |
| 17:45.37 | Antiarc|Work | Oh, that's right. |
| 17:45.40 | rubik | whereas 494 is 5.76% |
| 17:46.05 | Antiarc|Work | 0.2% for every 5 defense you have over 350, I believe |
| 17:46.37 | rubik | that's where the 490 defense magic # comes from.. makes npc rate 5.00% and pushes crit off the table |
| 17:46.47 | Antiarc|Work | Yup. |
| 17:46.53 | Tornhoof | i always assumed float misschance = (5 + (defskill-365) * 0.04f); |
| 17:46.58 | yacoob | I thought that WoW has the mechanic similar to AD&D |
| 17:47.04 | Tornhoof | compared to a 73mob |
| 17:47.12 | yacoob | where better AC --> better chance to avoid attack |
| 17:47.14 | yacoob | (which is stupid :) |
| 17:47.21 | Ominous | anyone? ^^ |
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| 17:49.31 | Ominous | dw forgot to add the . on the end |
| 17:49.38 | nevcairiel | where did my Smooth bar texture go to now.. |
| 17:49.47 | rubik | Antiarc|Work: thx for adding it.. looks like it's missing 'npc miss rate%' (off the defense stat)? |
| 17:50.02 | rubik | if you add that, it should be dead-on with what i had in mind |
| 17:50.08 | Antiarc|Work | Yeah, it is, it's just dodge/block at the moment. I'm working on the miss. |
| 17:50.56 | rubik | "NPC Miss Rate" => array("/page/characterInfo/characterTab/defenses/defense", "decreasePercent") |
| 17:50.59 | rubik | something like that |
| 17:52.38 | knarf- | So anyone had a solution for ratingbuster / auctioneer not loading properly when you only got 1 instance of AceEvent? :> |
| 17:53.38 | Ominous | hmm... does anyone think tekkup will update SpecialEventsAura for 2,1? and add the new debuff stuff |
| 17:53.53 | Antiarc|Work | rubik: Run it again, see if it matches up |
| 17:54.15 | rubik | yessir, it does.. perfect.. thanks much |
| 17:54.24 | Antiarc|Work | Excellent. |
| 17:54.50 | rubik | ugh.. only 37%.. wtb more dodge.. to get that to like 45% |
| 17:55.01 | CIA-31 | 03kirkburn * r33827 10ClearFont2/ (ClearFont2.toc Core.lua): ClearFont2: Misc edits |
| 17:55.13 | Antiarc|Work | http://wow.tachyonsix.com/armory/sig.php/89196xuPCX.png :V |
| 17:55.30 | Antiarc|Work | Blizzard slaughtered my Dodge in BC |
| 17:55.36 | rubik | stinking rogues |
| 17:55.37 | rubik | heh |
| 17:55.38 | Antiarc|Work | I have about the same amount of AGI that I did pre-BC |
| 17:55.41 | Antiarc|Work | But I have 400 more AP. |
| 17:55.43 | Kirkburn | I'm off out. If someone wants to take a look at CF2, see if they notice anything strange, please do! One thing is that seems not to run if it's the only addon :/ |
| 17:55.53 | Antiarc|Work | Pre-BC I was at about 46% avoidance, passively. |
| 17:55.57 | Antiarc|Work | Err |
| 17:56.01 | Antiarc|Work | 46% dodge/parry |
| 17:56.10 | Antiarc|Work | So 5% miss + 50% evasion = 101% avoidance |
| 17:56.26 | FISKER_Q | there's always a 1% chance to hit right? |
| 17:56.37 | Antiarc|Work | I don't believe so |
| 17:56.43 | FISKER_Q | Hmm |
| 17:56.46 | nevcairiel | wth |
| 17:56.50 | Antiarc|Work | There's a 1% chance that spells will always land |
| 17:56.50 | FISKER_Q | could've sworn i pre-tbc got owned by that |
| 17:56.53 | nevcairiel | SurfaceLib is eating my Smooth texture |
| 17:56.57 | nevcairiel | its simple not showing in the list. |
| 17:57.03 | Antiarc|Work | Maybe there is. I dunno. |
| 17:57.12 | Tornhoof | well white hits shouldn't hit you with 101% |
| 17:57.17 | Tornhoof | nto sure about specials |
| 17:57.39 | Antiarc|Work | FISKER_Q: Remember that PCs will have less miss than NPCs |
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| 17:57.46 | Antiarc|Work | So if it was a PC, there you go |
| 17:57.56 | FISKER_Q | Nah |
| 17:57.58 | FISKER_Q | It was chromaggus |
| 17:58.15 | FISKER_Q | I remember i tried to evasion tank him, and i had like 106% "avoidance" |
| 17:58.22 | fritz | hi |
| 17:58.24 | FISKER_Q | but got oneshotted by a 6k crit |
| 17:58.33 | Tornhoof | well |
| 17:58.53 | Antiarc|Work | Man, a 6k crit seems tame these days. |
| 17:58.54 | Tornhoof | you hadn't 315 def back then i guess? |
| 17:59.09 | FISKER_Q | i was a rogue |
| 17:59.10 | Antiarc|Work | Tornhoof: Rogue, not war. :) |
| 17:59.14 | Tornhoof | yeh |
| 17:59.22 | Tornhoof | but his avoidance dodge etc. gets reduced the same |
| 17:59.25 | FISKER_Q | though i technically could've used my onyxia trinket :D |
| 17:59.36 | Antiarc|Work | ...you took the Ony trinket? |
| 17:59.41 | FISKER_Q | yeah >D |
| 17:59.43 | FISKER_Q | :D |
| 17:59.43 | Antiarc|Work | Man, I used the neck forever. |
| 17:59.52 | Tornhoof | so his 106% were maybe correct against a lvl 60 mob |
| 18:00.02 | FISKER_Q | I was like "Dude i'll get an upgrade soon" |
| 18:00.03 | Antiarc|Work | Though I got it before ZG came out, so I guess if you had the Eye of Hakkar you could avoid the neck |
| 18:00.06 | Tornhoof | but not probably not against a 63mob |
| 18:00.21 | FISKER_Q | wasn't until ZG came out i actually got my neck upgraded :D |
| 18:00.40 | Antiarc|Work | I'm pretty sure I went Ony Neck -> Barbed Choker |
| 18:00.51 | Antiarc|Work | Fordring -> Ony -> Barbed |
| 18:01.00 | FISKER_Q | I went some shit neck -> eye of hakkar and then barbed |
| 18:01.43 | FISKER_Q | well i got the AQ20 neck also but it wasn't the best upgrade |
| 18:02.43 | Antiarc|Work | The AQ20 neck was heavy on STA, but not much of an offensive upgrade, IIRC |
| 18:02.57 | FISKER_Q | yeah |
| 18:03.02 | Antiarc|Work | Also, screw Ossirian. |
| 18:03.12 | Antiarc|Work | I farmed him for months trying to get a Sand-Polished Hammer. |
| 18:03.14 | FISKER_Q | Yeah that was interresting as rogue |
| 18:03.23 | Antiarc|Work | Damn thing never dropped for me, but it dropped EVERY TIME I wasn't there. |
| 18:03.29 | FISKER_Q | "Oh hey you just stay mounted and run around" |
| 18:03.31 | Antiarc|Work | <--- Mace rogue pre-TBC |
| 18:03.31 | FISKER_Q | uhm k :/ |
| 18:03.34 | knarf- | So anyone still have problems with different mods not loading, or well "loading" but not loading properly ? |
| 18:03.52 | FISKER_Q | gonna east some food brb |
| 18:03.59 | nevcairiel | Saroz: change sRF to SharedMediaLib pls. |
| 18:04.42 | Antiarc|Work | "Ken Kutaragi has announced that he is stepping down from his executive position at Sony." |
| 18:04.43 | Antiarc|Work | :O |
| 18:05.42 | Funkeh` | ckknight: ping |
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| 18:09.28 | CIA-31 | 03morgalm * r33828 10MorgDKP/ (MorgDKP.lua MorgDKP.toc MorgDKPOptions.lua): |
| 18:09.28 | CIA-31 | MorgDKP: |
| 18:09.28 | CIA-31 | - Fix to show "All" on lootframe |
| 18:09.57 | Gnarfoz | bsss |
| 18:10.20 | Gnarfoz | WAU keeps removing one random addon on updates |
| 18:11.39 | knarf- | I still have no clue as to why ratingbuster and auctioneer is not functioning properly :< i've disembedded my libs, atlest to my knowledge , bleh |
| 18:11.39 | Ominous | can you set focus in macros? |
| 18:11.46 | Ominous | as in with api and not /focus |
| 18:14.06 | Saroz | nevcairiel, you do it, or get Ammo to do it, he seems to enjoy it :) |
| 18:14.08 | FISKER_Q | ratingbuster and auctioneer is functioning here |
| 18:14.25 | nevcairiel | Saroz: i will do it then, if you dont have anything against it |
| 18:14.34 | Saroz | go ahead :p |
| 18:14.49 | chutwig | heh |
| 18:14.59 | chutwig | pitbull has colored this paladin's health bar yellow :o |
| 18:14.59 | xyu | Anyone know the price of Gladiator's Salvation weapon in 2.1? |
| 18:15.04 | *** join/#wowace Ani| (n=Ani@86.56.51.7) |
| 18:15.11 | chutwig | actually, it got the rogue and paladin backwards entirely |
| 18:15.21 | Tornhoof | 3150 or something i think |
| 18:15.37 | xyu | thanks |
| 18:17.34 | Ominous | god i love the changes to the 2.1 api for debuffs, timer addons are becomming so much simpler to use |
| 18:17.41 | Ominous | s/use/make/ |
| 18:17.59 | kenlyric | http://www.wowinsider.com/media/2007/04/stage1toendofdependencerant.jpg |
| 18:18.02 | knarf- | FISKER_Q bleh :< |
| 18:18.09 | kenlyric | damn, I wrote this in my head and it appeared on the internet. |
| 18:18.43 | xyu | They're changing Hellfire Fortification quest to daily :( |
| 18:18.47 | knarf- | FISKER_Q guess I need to do some sort of testing to figgre out what causes it, just so annoying when you got a lot of addons :P |
| 18:20.16 | ulic | yep, no more token farming |
| 18:20.34 | FISKER_Q | :P |
| 18:20.46 | FISKER_Q | You can start by checking only auctioneer and ratingbuster |
| 18:21.03 | kenlyric | considering it's the same 10 people doing hellfire all day long, world pvp will just die. |
| 18:21.04 | deltron | kenlyric: LOL |
| 18:22.27 | knarf- | FISKER_Q last time I tried doing that some of my addons got reset, guess I need to take a bacjup of my saved variables :P |
| 18:22.44 | knarf- | backup* |
| 18:24.14 | hyperChipmunk | maybe on your server; mine has some seriously epic halaa battles every sunday |
| 18:24.34 | NightHawkTheSane | kenlyric: regarding that link, yeah, I think a lot have people have written that in my head. Hell, thats almost how I would have written it too. >< :P |
| 18:24.40 | ulic | Tekkor can be vicious too |
| 18:24.51 | hyperChipmunk | yea, but only once every 6h |
| 18:24.58 | ulic | true |
| 18:25.24 | ulic | it's the only buff really worth fighting for though. |
| 18:25.24 | kenlyric | I can usually count on just going to hellfire and finding some group of people trading flags, and they'll randomly fight. |
| 18:25.25 | NightHawkTheSane | The nice thing about once every 6h, is that in between people can actually get on with playing the damn game. :P |
| 18:25.40 | kenlyric | I'd think auchidon buff would be the one worth fighting for. |
| 18:25.58 | hyperChipmunk | that's the terokkar one |
| 18:26.24 | kenlyric | yeah, I thought we were still talking about halaa, hence my confusion. |
| 18:26.46 | hyperChipmunk | terokkar is too spread-out to be fun as a cohesive battle |
| 18:26.59 | hyperChipmunk | it's just a bunch of running around |
| 18:27.03 | hyperChipmunk | halaa is awesome |
| 18:29.18 | hyperChipmunk | i mean, dude |
| 18:29.28 | hyperChipmunk | you can sit in trees and snipe people |
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| 18:32.01 | Roartindon | kagi4zm |
| 18:32.07 | Roartindon | err.. |
| 18:32.08 | Roartindon | wtf? |
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| 18:36.19 | CIA-31 | 03funkydude * r33829 10BigWigs/Karazhan/Maiden.lua: |
| 18:36.19 | CIA-31 | BigWigs: Karazhan/Maiden: |
| 18:36.19 | CIA-31 | - you drive me insane so im highlighting the fact that maiden repentance is a cooldown |
| 18:36.23 | Loki|muh | can someone help my with macros? im searching for a macro to cast a sting on highking maulgar during tanking the shamy |
| 18:36.55 | Megalon | Loki|muh: you can do it with focus target |
| 18:37.22 | Megalon | set maulgar to your /focus |
| 18:37.30 | Loki|muh | focus is used for misdirection *g* |
| 18:37.40 | Loki|muh | maybe should reassign it |
| 18:37.41 | Megalon | and then /cast [target=focus]sting |
| 18:37.46 | Elkano | yes, set him as focus and cast on your focus or make a makro for mouseover casting |
| 18:37.54 | Megalon | well you can change your focus after the pull |
| 18:38.02 | Megalon | or mouseover |
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| 18:47.42 | CIA-31 | 03phyber * r33830 10XPBarNone/ (5 files in 2 dirs): |
| 18:47.42 | CIA-31 | XPBarNone: |
| 18:47.42 | CIA-31 | - Renamed some textures to match their names in SharedMedia. Textures were compared with md5sum. |
| 18:48.14 | hyperChipmunk | they don't have diff where you're from? =x |
| 18:48.32 | phyber | for textures, this seemed quick :p |
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| 18:51.04 | CIA-31 | 03athou * r33831 10Taggle/ (Taggle.lua localization.lua): |
| 18:51.04 | CIA-31 | Taggle: |
| 18:51.04 | CIA-31 | - better support of multi-messages ads |
| 18:51.55 | CIA-31 | 03nevcairiel * r33832 10sRaidFrames/ (libs/ sRaidFrames.lua sRaidFrames.toc sRaidFramesOptions.lua): sRaidFrames: now using SharedMediaLib - i hope i didnt break anything :) |
| 18:54.26 | Saroz | :p |
| 18:54.32 | deltron | http://www.warhammeronline.com/english/community/guildBeta/form.php |
| 18:54.49 | CIA-31 | 03phyber * r33833 10XPBarNone/ (Core.lua Textures/cilo.tga Textures/marble.tga): |
| 18:54.49 | CIA-31 | XPBarNone: |
| 18:54.49 | CIA-31 | - Move cilo.tga back to marble.tga. Those didn't match, not sure why I moved them. |
| 18:54.50 | Saroz | nevcairiel, register the default textures? |
| 18:54.51 | CIA-31 | 03ckknight * r33834 10JostleLib/Jostle-2.0/Jostle-2.0.lua: .Jostle-2.0 - if nothing is registered, then don't run :Refresh every 10 seconds. |
| 18:55.25 | nevcairiel | Saroz: wah? i only adjustes all old SurfaceLib calls |
| 18:56.30 | Saroz | ah nm, blind |
| 18:56.46 | ckknight | hey, who wants to form a fake guild to get into the WAR beta? |
| 18:56.50 | deltron | lol |
| 18:56.53 | ckknight | we're like a guild here |
| 18:56.54 | deltron | I just signed my real guild up |
| 18:56.57 | ckknight | we code together |
| 18:57.00 | ckknight | etc. |
| 18:57.02 | deltron | but create a wowace guild :D |
| 18:57.11 | ckknight | I just might |
| 18:57.16 | ckknight | and then sign up everybody. |
| 18:57.17 | NightHawkTheSane | wtb mac version and i would :P |
| 18:57.35 | CIA-31 | 03athou * r33835 10Taggle/Taggle.lua: |
| 18:57.35 | CIA-31 | Taggle: |
| 18:57.35 | CIA-31 | - How terribly clumbsy of me |
| 18:57.38 | deltron | that's the reason I didn't get a macpro :) |
| 18:57.49 | ckknight | I could just install Windows |
| 18:58.05 | deltron | ckknight: create <WowAce> hehe |
| 18:59.07 | sergio | how do you sign up your guild |
| 19:00.30 | Ominous | hmm i was thinking on a timer is it too much to expect people to focus who they sheep/sap/banish in order to get a timer? |
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| 19:01.48 | chuckg | Invalid escape codes now. |
| 19:01.49 | chuckg | :| |
| 19:02.22 | chuckg | Oops wrong channel |
| 19:02.33 | kenlyric | ckknight: heh, I'd be down with that, if I can be whatever kind of priest-like char they have. |
| 19:02.51 | kenlyric | did they throw out beta signups today? |
| 19:04.14 | deltron | kenlyric: yeah check the link I posted |
| 19:04.35 | Ominous | would it be better to use surface for textures or shared media? |
| 19:04.37 | jaete | ckknight, any news on that fatal wow crash thing? |
| 19:04.49 | deltron | I kept on having that issue |
| 19:04.56 | deltron | I forgot which mod I disabled to fix it |
| 19:05.16 | shieldb | still going on afaik -- just did a test four person raid and /radisband crashed me to desktop :P |
| 19:05.21 | Fisker- | lol wut Bibi`ouF |
| 19:05.27 | Fisker- | Btw |
| 19:05.35 | Bibi`ouF | What did I do ? what did I do ? |
| 19:05.36 | Bibi`ouF | :( |
| 19:05.39 | ckknight | jaete: which one? ;-) |
| 19:05.43 | hyperChipmunk | you're french |
| 19:05.46 | ckknight | jaete: I fixed two |
| 19:05.48 | Fisker- | Bibi`ouF what are you adding in an hour? :O |
| 19:05.48 | Bibi`ouF | ... :( |
| 19:05.51 | deltron | does the mouseover sunder still work in ptr? |
| 19:05.53 | jaete | hey, great :D |
| 19:05.55 | Bibi`ouF | Fisker- : ZECRET !! |
| 19:05.58 | Fisker- | :;( |
| 19:05.59 | Fisker- | i hate you |
| 19:06.04 | ckknight | kenlyric: the warrior-cleric guy :-P |
| 19:06.15 | hyperChipmunk | that's like a criminal offense, in my book! |
| 19:06.23 | Fisker- | Anyone know if the silence changes are on every item, spell and talent? |
| 19:06.27 | Fisker- | or only some? |
| 19:06.48 | Bibi`ouF | only some |
| 19:06.49 | kenlyric | ckknight: goddamnit no. I hope they come up with something else in the elves. |
| 19:06.53 | Fisker- | fail |
| 19:06.56 | hugo | hi |
| 19:06.58 | ckknight | kenlyric: oh, I bet |
| 19:07.05 | ckknight | okay, for the WAR thing, do you think we're 0-25 or 25-50? |
| 19:07.06 | Fisker- | which ones aren't changed? |
| 19:07.06 | kenlyric | I don't want to be a paladin. I want to be a shadow priest that becomes a holy priest, just like wow :) |
| 19:07.07 | hugo | i updated my addons today, and they stoped to work? |
| 19:07.14 | hugo | like all fubar, sct, and all others ;o |
| 19:07.14 | ckknight | I'm only counting developers, not users |
| 19:07.24 | ckknight | well, developers and people I like |
| 19:07.27 | hugo | using winaceupdater |
| 19:07.29 | Gagorian | Beh, another issue due to multiple reverse translations in Babble |
| 19:07.36 | Bibi`ouF | actually Fisker- |
| 19:07.41 | Bibi`ouF | I don't know if I should release it |
| 19:07.50 | hugo | can someome tell me how to fix it im going on raid now :( |
| 19:07.53 | Bibi`ouF | Lately i've been scared about potential mails from Blizzard in my mailbox :p |
| 19:08.08 | CIA-31 | 03athou * r33836 10Taggle/Taggle.lua: |
| 19:08.08 | CIA-31 | Taggle: |
| 19:08.08 | CIA-31 | - trusted people won't be suspected anymore |
| 19:08.12 | Fisker- | pm it to me!! |
| 19:08.18 | ckknight | I'd say we're "Open to all, with an application process and a probationary period", probably |
| 19:08.24 | ckknight | I mean, you gotta sign up for the SVN |
| 19:08.30 | kenlyric | I totally gave Kemayo an idea for questFu, and helped antiarc fix a bug in sanity. I'm almost exactly like a dev. |
| 19:08.41 | kenlyric | (without the work) |
| 19:09.47 | hyperChipmunk | developers and people you like? what about developers you don't like? |
| 19:10.01 | Fisker- | http://www.msfn.org/comments.php?shownews=20041 <-lol fukken wut |
| 19:10.06 | ckknight | I'd rather include them than exclude them |
| 19:10.17 | ckknight | alright, gonna submit. |
| 19:10.29 | ckknight | one nice thing is that we were all part of a beta test together before ;-) |
| 19:10.36 | Fisker- | http://www.msfn.org/comments.php?shownews=20041 <-omg with me |
| 19:10.37 | ckknight | TBC closed beta ;-) |
| 19:10.59 | ckknight | hey, SC2 |
| 19:11.02 | Fisker- | }} |
| 19:11.04 | ckknight | that'd be sweet |
| 19:11.06 | Fisker- | ^^ |
| 19:11.20 | ckknight | opening in Korea, too |
| 19:11.22 | ckknight | good plan, imho |
| 19:11.28 | Fisker- | of course |
| 19:11.33 | Fisker- | We need a division down there |
| 19:11.39 | Fisker- | "ZEEEEEEEEEEEERG RUUUUUUUUUUSH KEKEKEKEEKEKEK" |
| 19:12.45 | Gagorian | Anyone got german client and mage? :l |
| 19:12.54 | hugo | ckknight you got idea why my addons aint workin |
| 19:12.59 | [dRaCo] | the german client sucks big time |
| 19:13.18 | Gagorian | Yes, but some people use it.. so I'd need to solve this shit |
| 19:13.22 | ckknight | hugo: AceEvent bug, possibly. Update everything |
| 19:14.16 | [dRaCo] | what's your problem? |
| 19:14.30 | hugo | ckknight how can i update all, it's skiping them |
| 19:14.30 | Gagorian | It's so shit that multiple stuff has the same translation into German.. And getting reverse translations from Babble won't work.. |
| 19:14.38 | ckknight | hugo: oh, dunno |
| 19:14.43 | hugo | it says no public version, or no nev version skiping |
| 19:14.45 | ckknight | *shrug* |
| 19:15.24 | hugo | oh damn |
| 19:15.27 | hugo | i got raid now :( |
| 19:15.33 | hugo | someone help |
| 19:16.11 | hugo | so it's doing one addon ? |
| 19:16.16 | hugo | don't anyone know witch one |
| 19:16.24 | hugo | today i hit update it updated like 6 |
| 19:16.44 | [dRaCo] | so revert those 6 |
| 19:17.00 | hugo | i forgot witch already it was like 6hours ago |
| 19:17.23 | hugo | all the addons enabled they just dont load when i enter game,, none of ace2 |
| 19:17.38 | knarf- | I still have something that does not load properly, did update acevent though :< |
| 19:18.41 | hugo | also i can update over and over |
| 19:18.46 | Saroz | Funkeh`, what about letting the mag infernal counter deduct once an infernal dies, so it always gives a count of how many infernals are up |
| 19:18.54 | hugo | using winaceupdater, it keeps updating the same over and over |
| 19:19.14 | [dRaCo] | get the latest released versions from wowi |
| 19:20.24 | hugo | of what |
| 19:20.32 | hugo | It updates same addons over and over forever |
| 19:20.33 | CIA-31 | 03shieldb * r33837 10Incubator/ (Core.lua Incubator.toc): Incubator: minor code cleanups |
| 19:20.47 | hugo | update done it say, i run winaceupdater 1.7 and it donwload the same |
| 19:21.08 | [dRaCo] | get the latest version of those addons that keep getting updated |
| 19:21.38 | hugo | i see |
| 19:22.24 | CIA-31 | 03nevcairiel * r33838 10sRaidFrames/sRaidFrames.toc: sRaidFrames: right, load SML in the .toc as well when its embeded |
| 19:23.29 | Funkeh` | Saroz: its not always 100% accurate, and i don't really want to over complicate it |
| 19:24.29 | Saroz | need to know how many adds are up, so I can yell at my locks :p |
| 19:27.20 | hugo | hmm |
| 19:27.24 | hugo | i deleted the addons |
| 19:27.36 | hugo | and then dl them again from updater |
| 19:27.44 | hugo | the ones that we're keep updating and didnt help |
| 19:28.08 | Gagorian | I'm so annoyed by the fact that both Combustion and Incinceration translate into the same in german |
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| 19:28.25 | Gagorian | So when I run it through BabbleSpell, it'll get messed up. |
| 19:28.30 | Gagorian | Everything will be combustion |
| 19:29.21 | hugo | also guys |
| 19:29.21 | hugo | i got file NoPatch.nopatch in addons\ |
| 19:29.21 | hugo | thats ok ? |
| 19:29.24 | hugo | there are all addons |
| 19:29.58 | hugo | like SCT; etc all of them |
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| 19:31.35 | hugo | i just updated normally like each day and just nothing works now, dunno what to do :( |
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| 19:32.10 | kenlyric | run |
| 19:32.18 | kenlyric | restore from your good backup. |
| 19:33.55 | hugo | i dont have backup |
| 19:35.42 | hugo | it says now an error has been detected |
| 19:35.46 | hugo | so buggraber works? |
| 19:36.12 | hugo | yeah buggrabber works, and it has 14errors |
| 19:36.39 | hyperChipmunk | toss those bugs inna sack! |
| 19:37.10 | hugo | bugsack aint working.. |
| 19:37.20 | hugo | it says 14erros about addon and everything is about: |
| 19:37.34 | hugo | ADDON_ACTION_BLOCKED |
| 19:37.59 | hugo | Jostle-2.0 |
| 19:38.09 | hugo | Aceevent-2.0 |
| 19:38.17 | kenlyric | well, now you know better. Make backups when your mods are working, so you can revert easily if something breaks. WAU gives you beta software, adjust accordingly. |
| 19:38.43 | hyperChipmunk | i have a "fun sized" bag of M&Ms here that's gotten' me thinking...who exactly thinks microscopic-sized candy is "fun"? |
| 19:39.33 | hugo | yeah but that wont help me kenlyric |
| 19:39.34 | hugo | now |
| 19:39.46 | hugo | all the 14addons that aint working says addon action blocked |
| 19:40.00 | hyperChipmunk | i mean, if i were a kid on halloween and someone gave me "fun sized" candy, i'd be pretty pissed-off |
| 19:40.23 | hyperChipmunk | "wow! a butterfinger cubelet! thanks!" |
| 19:40.32 | kenlyric | divided by the number of children that visit you, full sized isn't economical. |
| 19:40.52 | kenlyric | plus, as a kid, you get more variety that way. |
| 19:40.54 | hyperChipmunk | perhaps |
| 19:41.15 | hyperChipmunk | but how is that more fun than getting a variety of king-sized bars |
| 19:41.34 | kenlyric | because you're a kid, and 200 of something is better than 30 of something. |
| 19:41.51 | Stephmw | is there something a bit like ct's timer mod written under ace? |
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| 19:42.52 | hyperChipmunk | but you only get one per house anyway; you put a butterfinger cubelet next to a king-size butterfinger...and the best adjective you can come up for the cubelet is "fun sized"? |
| 19:43.06 | pastamancer | "I'll make you fun sized!" |
| 19:43.12 | gnorlish | it's fun sized because it fits in your nostril easier |
| 19:43.18 | hyperChipmunk | WHO ARE THE AD WIZARDS WHO CAME UP WITH THIS ONE! |
| 19:43.54 | stavmar | hyperChipmunk: lol |
| 19:43.58 | hugo | I think i found the problem |
| 19:44.10 | hugo | but need help with it please |
| 19:44.34 | kenlyric | a full sized bar isn't fun. It's a lot of work. |
| 19:44.58 | deltron | active directory? |
| 19:45.00 | kenlyric | also, sneaking extras under mom's nose is much easier. |
| 19:45.27 | hyperChipmunk | the only thing i can think of that's 'fun' about 'fun-sized' candies is that you can wing 'em at your sister's cranium |
| 19:45.32 | stavmar | I think the real issue regarding fun size is that they just keep repackaging the same products and change the label to read a different size in order to potentially hit a different market |
| 19:45.39 | hugo | hmm or not |
| 19:45.50 | hugo | it's some library in ace2 disabling all my addons |
| 19:45.51 | Gagorian | Localized clients... Worst idea ever! |
| 19:45.54 | hugo | ;( |
| 19:45.59 | hyperChipmunk | but the question is, "why 'fun'?" |
| 19:46.02 | stavmar | they have Stix, and rounds, and hershey's chips, it never ends and it is all the same crap |
| 19:46.16 | hyperChipmunk | a big one is King-Sized |
| 19:46.20 | kenlyric | shapes matter. |
| 19:46.25 | hyperChipmunk | a tiny spec is Fun-Sized |
| 19:46.28 | hyperChipmunk | speck |
| 19:46.32 | stavmar | Fun = Cute? |
| 19:46.46 | hyperChipmunk | no, fun=enjoyable |
| 19:46.47 | kenlyric | well, they are also usually called Bite-sized. |
| 19:47.03 | kenlyric | Fun is just marketing, like disney fun money. It's like money but... more fun. |
| 19:47.08 | hyperChipmunk | i never seen anyone find a microsample of candy more enjoyable than a giant bar |
| 19:47.26 | kenlyric | hyperChipmunk: you need to meet more kids. |
| 19:47.39 | stavmar | they have those bits that are more fun to eat... |
| 19:47.41 | kenlyric | 4 bite-sized bars are WAY better than one normal bar. |
| 19:47.41 | gnorlish | i like smaller snickers because the ratio of chocolate covering to inner nougat is different |
| 19:48.03 | stavmar | ratios is what makes chocolate exciting |
| 19:48.04 | hyperChipmunk | gnorlish: perhaps, but does that make them fun? |
| 19:48.26 | hyperChipmunk | how do you have a 'fun' size anyway? |
| 19:48.27 | gnorlish | i do find myself giggling a tad more uncontrollably, yes |
| 19:48.29 | kenlyric | kids are fairly stupid when it comes to measuring relative quantity. 4 is far better than 1 |
| 19:49.03 | hyperChipmunk | even given that, I don't see how the adjective/noun pair even make sense together |
| 19:49.05 | kenlyric | heck, adults are like that. |
| 19:49.07 | hyperChipmunk | fun size |
| 19:49.23 | kenlyric | Isn't it far more satisfying to eat a kitkat one bar at a time rather than taking big bites out of the whole thing? |
| 19:49.37 | stavmar | kenlyric: I believe it is! |
| 19:49.41 | hyperChipmunk | unless the 'candy' in question is viagara, those two words shouldn't ever be near one another |
| 19:49.43 | kenlyric | and honestly, who doesn't break up a hershey bar from time to time? |
| 19:49.59 | stavmar | sex = fun for you but not a 4 year old or 10 year old |
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| 19:50.13 | hyperChipmunk | i eat my kitkat bars with blatant disregard for the suggested perforation |
| 19:50.17 | deltron | oh man, http://www.traderjoesfan.com/Trader_Joes/Products/Snacks,_Chips,_Salsas/Chili_Spiced_Mango/details/ <-- best snack ever |
| 19:50.19 | hyperChipmunk | as a matter of fact =P |
| 19:50.22 | kenlyric | hyperChipmunk: clearly you are deranged. |
| 19:50.29 | chutwig | he's gone MAD |
| 19:50.48 | hyperChipmunk | they're better that way |
| 19:50.50 | hyperChipmunk | try it |
| 19:51.11 | kenlyric | and as I think someone mentioned before, the amount of chocolate you get per square inch goes up. And chocolate is always fun. |
| 19:51.18 | CIA-31 | 03gagorian * r33839 10DrDamage/ (Data/Druid.lua Data/Mage.lua DrDamage.lua): |
| 19:51.18 | CIA-31 | DrDamage: |
| 19:51.18 | CIA-31 | -Fixed issue with Incineration in german clients (not pretty, but it should work) due to identical translation with Combustion |
| 19:51.27 | gnorlish | hC, i'm telling the candy police on you |
| 19:53.00 | Xelotar | hmmmmmm is it normal that a bunch of ace2 plugins freezes wow right after the loading screen disappered? |
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| 19:53.29 | [dRaCo] | prolly an issue with outdated libs and wau |
| 19:53.31 | hyperChipmunk | sadly, yes |
| 19:53.34 | hyperChipmunk | update |
| 19:53.50 | deltron | i'm not sure what's going on with that |
| 19:53.51 | Xelotar | i just downloaded all of those plugins on files.wow.... |
| 19:53.51 | hyperChipmunk | if it still crashes, use the Ace2 standalone addon |
| 19:54.08 | hyperChipmunk | download the plain Ace2 addon |
| 19:54.23 | Amian | gagorian> the fix shouldv been done in Babble-Spell i guess ? |
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| 19:54.37 | deltron | is there any way to determine what mod crashed wow? |
| 19:54.49 | Xelotar | will the other plugins load the ace2 instead of their own libs then? |
| 19:55.03 | hyperChipmunk | yes |
| 19:55.17 | Gagorian | Amian: Well, BabbleSpell should imo return all translations if there's several |
| 19:55.18 | hyperChipmunk | they should all have Ace2 as an optional dependency |
| 19:55.19 | Xelotar | good to know :) |
| 19:55.51 | hyperChipmunk | so it will get loaded first, and if it's the most up-to-date version, it won't get overwritten during the load process |
| 19:56.08 | Amian | Gagorian> i just checked Babble the german translation doesnt match with official talent for Incineration |
| 19:56.27 | Gagorian | Verbrennung? |
| 19:56.31 | Amian | yes |
| 19:56.37 | Amian | its supposed to be Verbrennen |
| 19:56.45 | Gagorian | Nope, online talent calculator is wrong |
| 19:56.48 | Amian | just looked the official telent calc |
| 19:56.50 | Amian | tsss |
| 19:56.59 | hugo | Xelotar i got same problem |
| 19:57.08 | hugo | except i can play but none addons working |
| 19:57.09 | Gagorian | Blizzard changed it from Incinerate to Incenaration due to the warlock spell being added |
| 19:57.11 | hugo | they all blocked |
| 19:57.20 | Gagorian | But forgot to change it in the talent calcs |
| 19:57.33 | Xelotar | i'll try it with the ace2 standalone now |
| 19:57.39 | Amian | i dont have a german client but hows it spelled there |
| 19:57.43 | Gagorian | All in all it's a fucking headache talent :D |
| 19:57.53 | Gagorian | It's Verbrennung for the talent and combustion |
| 19:58.06 | Amian | yah and for incineration ? |
| 19:58.18 | Gagorian | the mage talent is incineration |
| 19:58.44 | Amian | yes the german talent calc names it verbrennen |
| 19:58.53 | Gagorian | Which is wrong :) |
| 19:58.57 | Amian | cause i doubt they name the talent double in the german client ? |
| 19:59.06 | Gagorian | They did |
| 19:59.09 | Gagorian | Which sucks balls |
| 19:59.12 | Amian | n00blettes hehe |
| 19:59.12 | Gagorian | so to say |
| 19:59.18 | Amian | totally agreed there |
| 19:59.32 | chutwig | should've named it entzuendung |
| 19:59.35 | Xelotar | *laugh* ok now it doesn't crash but none of those ace2 plugins is loaded ^^ |
| 19:59.39 | Gagorian | Same thing with druid talent Vengeance and warrior skill Revenge |
| 19:59.41 | Gagorian | Both are Rache |
| 20:00.00 | Gagorian | So.. Always when I reverse translate Rache in BS it returns Revenge |
| 20:00.02 | Gagorian | which wont work |
| 20:00.23 | nevcairiel | we have a talent named Vengeance? /me looks |
| 20:00.30 | kenlyric | Gagorian: what a boring language. |
| 20:00.30 | nevcairiel | oh we really do |
| 20:00.36 | chutwig | german doesn't really have a distinction like english in that regard, though |
| 20:00.36 | Gagorian | ["Vengeance"] = { Effect = 0.1, Spells = { "Starfire", "Moonfire", "Wrath" }, ModType = "CritMultiplier", }, |
| 20:00.37 | nevcairiel | i dont spec balance that often :P |
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| 20:00.45 | kenlyric | Vengeance and Revenge are two entirely different things! |
| 20:00.48 | trh | hi guys |
| 20:01.10 | Amian | ken> tell that blizzards translat0rz ;) |
| 20:01.26 | Gagorian | Well they could name it... TALENT1 and ABILITY1 for all I care.. just some difference plix :p |
| 20:01.37 | nevcairiel | heh |
| 20:01.51 | nevcairiel | cant you sort it by class, somehow? |
| 20:01.53 | Xelotar | hmmmm how do i get those plugins to show up now? ^^ |
| 20:02.17 | Amian | nev> prolly not realy as babble is just a flat table class independent |
| 20:02.19 | Gagorian | nevcairiel: I've solved it by adding "Revenge" as a druid talent in frFR and deDE to my table |
| 20:02.49 | Gagorian | It causes no conflicts, just a redundant table entry for other locales |
| 20:03.18 | Gagorian | Mage one is trickier, cause there's talents for both.. and a buff for the other but luckily the buff is first in babble so it returns that |
| 20:03.59 | hugo | it shows me 16erros in AceEvent-2.0 in drdamage addon |
| 20:04.13 | hugo | like.. fubar blocked bla bla drdamage/aceevent-2.0 |
| 20:04.17 | Xelotar | it only shows me one error |
| 20:04.27 | Xelotar | "invalid key 'next'" |
| 20:04.29 | hugo | witch |
| 20:04.36 | Xelotar | not more |
| 20:05.10 | Gagorian | Umm, well it's not DrDamage. It just loads it first probably |
| 20:06.02 | Gagorian | Just use standalone libs and udpate everything without libs and it should be fine |
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| 20:08.36 | Arrowmaster | everybody using WAU should be using standalones |
| 20:10.03 | kenlyric | Arrowmaster: your vigilance converted me. |
| 20:11.41 | hugo | what is WAU ? |
| 20:11.46 | hugo | ahh updater |
| 20:11.50 | Amian | ^^ |
| 20:11.51 | hugo | im using with externals |
| 20:12.09 | hugo | so i should switch to , not use externals, and download all the lib packages you say ? |
| 20:12.23 | hyperChipmunk | there's a package called !!!StandaloneLibs |
| 20:12.31 | hyperChipmunk | that contains all the libraries individually |
| 20:12.37 | hugo | ok going dl it |
| 20:12.45 | Xelotar | meh.... wow doesn't like me |
| 20:12.47 | Arrowmaster | i think all you have to do is select that package and WAU does it automaticly |
| 20:12.49 | hyperChipmunk | use that instead of externals |
| 20:12.53 | hugo | and then update addons with or without externals ? |
| 20:13.03 | Arrowmaster | without |
| 20:13.04 | hyperChipmunk | select !!!SAL and turn off externals |
| 20:13.11 | hugo | ok thanks i go try |
| 20:13.48 | the_squid | how can I make /me [button:1] does something work? :) |
| 20:13.50 | Xelotar | hmmmm can i delete the "libs" folders in the addon folders after installing ace2? |
| 20:13.51 | hugo | should i also dl the !!!LeaveMeAloneLibraries ? |
| 20:14.02 | Arrowmaster | no |
| 20:14.05 | kenlyric | you install SAL. Then, reinstall all addons. |
| 20:14.07 | Arrowmaster | to both questions |
| 20:14.13 | hugo | ok |
| 20:14.17 | hugo | :) |
| 20:14.19 | Gagorian | hugo Xelotar: Delete before extracting in preferences |
| 20:14.20 | kenlyric | then you can usu "update installed addons" from then on. |
| 20:14.24 | Gagorian | then update all without externals |
| 20:14.54 | kenlyric | oh, right, I forget that setting because it's always the first thing I change :) |
| 20:15.48 | hugo | oh noes |
| 20:15.51 | hugo | so many files it dl :D |
| 20:18.13 | jaete | still crashing to that fatal error which was apparently because of pitbull :[ |
| 20:18.24 | deltron | lately my errors weren't with pitbull |
| 20:19.16 | jaete | dunno what's causing it, but i suspect it's the thing ckknight posted about, fatal wow error etc |
| 20:19.37 | ckknight | when? |
| 20:19.37 | hugo | gmm didnt help :( |
| 20:19.43 | ckknight | and have you fully updated? |
| 20:19.48 | jaete | http://ace.pastey.net/17739 |
| 20:19.50 | jaete | just now |
| 20:20.01 | jaete | i've fully updated, around 40-50 minutes ago :) |
| 20:20.05 | ckknight | were you in a raid? did you leave a raid? what were you doing? |
| 20:20.21 | jaete | was in av, left bg -> left raid -> crash |
| 20:20.55 | hugo | what do you mean fully updated |
| 20:21.04 | hugo | yeah i will leave raid soon after nightbane |
| 20:21.12 | hugo | io did hit f4-f12 |
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| 20:21.13 | hyperChipmunk | there's been a problem with zoning with other windows open, like from battlegrounds |
| 20:21.15 | hugo | to update all |
| 20:21.29 | hyperChipmunk | close the scoreboard before you zone out |
| 20:21.37 | jaete | ran this python script i found that updates all ace addons that need updating. using no-externals versions of stuff, with the libs separately |
| 20:21.39 | Gagorian | I've had some fatal errors lately too. After raid is over, HSing to shattrah and then. Probably related to leaving raid (disbanded?). |
| 20:23.55 | Industrial | jaete: in what forum was it posted? |
| 20:24.22 | Industrial | jaete: also, did it say anything about it being finished or working at all :P |
| 20:24.23 | Industrial | etc |
| 20:24.33 | jaete | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=98891865&postId=986135813&sid=1#0 |
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| 20:24.38 | kebinusan | hmm I havent had any fatal errors but that sounds like the problem I was having leaving arenas ... wineserver would jump to like 90% cpu load till I killed wow |
| 20:24.46 | jaete | ah, you mean that python script? |
| 20:25.07 | hugo | ckknight theres one of the 16 errors http://ace.pastey.net/17741 |
| 20:25.16 | hugo | most of them looks common, like 10 |
| 20:25.23 | hugo | just different addon then fubar |
| 20:25.26 | jaete | http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=3731.msg82386#msg82386 |
| 20:25.34 | deltron | ckknight: I'm not sure it's in pitbull, I disabled several mods but not pitbull on purpose and it ran fine last night |
| 20:25.40 | hugo | brb nightbane :( |
| 20:26.47 | ckknight | hugo: update Jostle |
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| 20:29.28 | kenlyric | lol |
| 20:29.43 | kenlyric | that's a pretty funny random message during major mod meltdown... |
| 20:30.55 | phyber | ok, since a week or so ago, does BigWigs "bong" every few seconds? |
| 20:30.59 | phyber | it was kind of irritating |
| 20:31.25 | phyber | and there was some box with an orange title bar, what's that about :o |
| 20:31.31 | knarf- | range checker |
| 20:31.37 | phyber | ah |
| 20:31.40 | deltron | range if you are too close |
| 20:32.37 | hugo | ckknight but i don't know how? i got the SAL i updated all addons |
| 20:32.47 | hugo | how i update Jostle please |
| 20:32.54 | ckknight | SAL? |
| 20:33.02 | vhaarr | phyber: Just close the box and the bong goes away. |
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| 20:33.08 | hugo | !!!StandaloneLibraries |
| 20:33.12 | ckknight | hugo: my recommendation is to use standalone libraries, honestly |
| 20:33.18 | ckknight | which you aren't doing |
| 20:33.30 | hugo | i tought its !!!StandaloneLibraries ? |
| 20:33.46 | hugo | i just downloaded it, updated all without externals and no help |
| 20:33.56 | Kemayo | Oh, those bastards. My workplace is now blocking the wowace forums. |
| 20:33.57 | vhaarr | Did you read the readme? |
| 20:33.59 | hyperChipmunk | restarted wow, right? |
| 20:34.20 | chutwig | <PROTECTED> |
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| 20:35.36 | Kemayo | jaete: It's nice to see people using my work. :D |
| 20:35.42 | phyber | vhaarr: I found the option for the sound now :) |
| 20:35.51 | Industrial | Lets rename all libs ever to Lib<Name>, and chug them in trunk/lib, then make one addon; trunk/Lib that holds all libs. then remove all embedded libs from all addons. the end? I know im being silly, and it would most likely scare away people like me that only use a few ace addons. theres the problem. :-) |
| 20:35.55 | phyber | I just didn't know what the box was for just "The Curator" with peoples names. hehe :) |
| 20:36.50 | Cyrez | I still use SVN but I've got a lot of standalone stuff. Except when there's only of them. |
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| 20:37.31 | Cyrez | Like, PitBull's libs folder is empty save for DogTag. |
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| 20:40.35 | trh | Kemayo: sure? at the moment wowace.com/forum doesnt work ;) |
| 20:41.07 | trh | Kemayo: oh.. 4get it.. only a routing problem here.. they work |
| 20:42.13 | hugo | ckknight i got \World of Warcraft\Interface\AddOns\JostleLib" installed with all other standalone lib's |
| 20:42.29 | ckknight | then why didn't it show up in the error message? |
| 20:42.46 | hugo | shrug? |
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| 20:42.59 | ckknight | do better |
| 20:43.00 | Amian | FubarPlugin-2.0-r33127.zip -> .toc is invalid due to wrong chars right at the beginning |
| 20:43.03 | Stephmw | that spark is interesting... |
| 20:43.06 | hugo | it shows in one error |
| 20:43.47 | hugo | i need to kill nightbane im doin all hectic now :-( but damn i need my lovely addons :D |
| 20:44.12 | deltron | lol |
| 20:44.40 | hugo | ok ckknight i got now 132 errors :D and Jostle is there |
| 20:44.45 | CIA-31 | 03evl * r33840 10PitBull/Spark/Spark.lua: |
| 20:44.45 | CIA-31 | PitBull |
| 20:44.45 | CIA-31 | - Adjusted maximum position of spark to prevent it from exceeding manaBar boundary. |
| 20:44.45 | CIA-31 | - Increased spark height to improve visibility. |
| 20:44.49 | ckknight | I don't believe you |
| 20:45.02 | hugo | ckknight there http://ace.pastey.net/17743 |
| 20:45.12 | hugo | it's error 4 of 132 |
| 20:45.14 | hugo | says bugsack |
| 20:45.23 | ckknight | yea, you still don't have the standalones installed properly |
| 20:45.33 | ckknight | seeing as the Jostle you're using is inside FuBar |
| 20:45.37 | hugo | i see |
| 20:45.47 | hugo | but i got all the libs in my addon folder |
| 20:45.50 | hugo | so what's wrong ? :( |
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| 20:48.26 | trh | hugo: restarted wow client? |
| 20:48.26 | trh | hugo: activated all libs in the addon screen? |
| 20:48.26 | hugo | give me second i try reboot :D |
| 20:49.59 | Gagorian | It's funny to see people reboot for the most random reasons |
| 20:50.14 | Gagorian | Like it's going to change anything :] |
| 20:50.25 | Amian | cknight: if u have a minute check the toc from FubarPlugin-2.0 in svn looks there is a 0xEFBBBF char sequence luring itself into it before the ## Interface sequence at least the latest .zip contains it |
| 20:51.07 | ckknight | spell my name correctly |
| 20:51.20 | Amian | +k then ;) |
| 20:51.26 | ckknight | and the UTF-8 BOM is fine. |
| 20:51.40 | Amian | hrm |
| 20:52.20 | trh | Gagorian: well.. sometimes it does ^^ |
| 20:53.46 | hyperChipmunk | don't worry about cknite, he's a big mean jerk |
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| 20:55.14 | Amian | ckknight: ok seems to work now refused its service a min before :<> |
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| 20:55.37 | hyperChipmunk | O_o |
| 20:55.40 | trh | Amian: some editors insert that sequence for recognizing utf8 - but the wow client can handle it |
| 20:55.42 | hyperChipmunk | there's a name i haven't seen in awhile |
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| 20:59.03 | pastamancer | maia: hi! |
| 20:59.13 | maia | hey pasta... |
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| 20:59.47 | knarf- | is 312 addons installed a lot? :> |
| 20:59.53 | pastamancer | come back and take over Grid so I can work on new projects :) |
| 20:59.54 | hugo | :(( |
| 21:00.50 | maia | oh. well. um. |
| 21:01.16 | trh | knarf-: yep |
| 21:01.27 | knarf- | Well thats what I got :P |
| 21:01.31 | hugo | Lib:Jostle-2.0 |
| 21:01.39 | hugo | i got it check in addons when in game |
| 21:02.13 | knarf- | I still don't get why my ratingbuster / auctioneer does not load properly :< |
| 21:02.26 | hugo | and when i load its 132erros and it still load from the addons dir |
| 21:02.34 | hugo | so I dont know what else can I do |
| 21:04.17 | knarf- | trh it is counting libs though :P |
| 21:04.53 | trh | knarf-: with libs i'm at 120 ;) |
| 21:05.15 | knarf- | Meh a lot of them is fubar plugins :) |
| 21:05.16 | trh | knarf-: but alone bigwigs and blizzard_* are alot ;) |
| 21:05.22 | knarf- | ye |
| 21:05.27 | hugo | ahh i see! |
| 21:05.29 | knarf- | I got bigwigs and littlewigs aswell :) |
| 21:05.32 | trh | + cartographer and fubar stuff |
| 21:05.36 | hugo | all libs enabled except fubar lib |
| 21:05.47 | hugo | it says depency mising dewdrop ace2 and so :O |
| 21:06.07 | knarf- | ffs, I don't know how to fix ratingbuster / auctioneer |
| 21:06.08 | knarf- | :< |
| 21:06.28 | knarf- | could my saved vars cause it ? |
| 21:07.23 | knarf- | I did the external lib things and got no errors anymore except for auctioneer not loading, and rating buster not busting ratings :/ |
| 21:08.55 | hugo | this day is my addons nightmare;o |
| 21:09.11 | knarf- | meh, i'm living with it :) |
| 21:09.22 | knarf- | I can still enable auctioneer trough MCPfu :> |
| 21:09.24 | deltron | lol |
| 21:10.52 | Hjalte | I was thinking, for Grid for example, would it be possible somehow to have the non-elemental debuffs shown? The debuffs from eg raid bosses that can not be removed but that you would still like to know about? I know you can add each one seperately |
| 21:11.19 | Daemona | Hjalte |
| 21:11.23 | Daemona | you need the exact name |
| 21:11.31 | pastamancer | if you can't dispell it, you don't need to see it |
| 21:11.37 | Aenslaed | Is there a way with pitbull to add yourself to the party frame as the 5th person? |
| 21:11.47 | Hjalte | Pastamancer, yeah i do, if i need to heal through it :) |
| 21:11.56 | pastamancer | Hjalte: then you need to know what it is |
| 21:11.59 | undu | Well, it could be a debuff that deals damage which would be good for a healer to know. |
| 21:12.09 | Hjalte | Yeah, but couldnt it show the icon maybe? |
| 21:12.13 | Daemona | Aenslaed you have your own frame, stick it to the partyframe? |
| 21:12.35 | pastamancer | not terribly useful without the tooltip or name |
| 21:12.46 | Daemona | Hjalte -> Grid -> Status -> Auras -> ADD |
| 21:12.51 | Aenslaed | Daemona: yeah, but I like having one version of my frames bottom center. However, when healing, whackamole is easier with them all together. |
| 21:12.54 | Daemona | Type in the EXACT Debuff name. |
| 21:12.57 | pastamancer | and if you can't dispel it, it'll be in the way of the health bar for a long time |
| 21:13.15 | pastamancer | I add encounter-specific debuffs by name and assign them to the border |
| 21:13.47 | Daemona | pastamancer? why discuss that, let him figure out whats best for him after he knows how to add it ;) |
| 21:13.49 | Hjalte | Pastamancer, and then you just have a lot of encounter-specific debuffs you enable and disable at their respective encounter? |
| 21:13.57 | Hjalte | Daemona, i know how to add it. |
| 21:14.02 | Daemona | why enable disable? |
| 21:14.06 | pastamancer | Hjalte: no need to enable/disable them, |
| 21:14.19 | Daemona | if they are encounter specific only onewill pop up in that specific encounter? |
| 21:14.49 | Hjalte | Hmm. Yeah. That shouldnt be a problem then :) |
| 21:14.57 | pastamancer | they'r encounter specific because nothing else uses those debuffs :p |
| 21:15.18 | pastamancer | except for Garotte |
| 21:15.19 | Ominous | is focus not a valid unitID? |
| 21:15.30 | pastamancer | Ominous: focus is valid |
| 21:15.36 | Ominous | hmm odd |
| 21:15.42 | Aenslaed | Daemona: if you get what i mean that is. In a 5 man or Arena setup, I want to keep my eyes on the center of the screen when dpsing, but when healing, just look up to a corner of my screen and see all 5. Its too intrusive to stick the party frame near the player frame. |
| 21:15.46 | Ominous | ohh i know the problem |
| 21:16.11 | Daemona | no i dont get it ;) |
| 21:16.16 | Daemona | i only play rogue and shadowpriest ;) |
| 21:16.18 | knarf- | well it is not my saved vars that fucks up stuff :< |
| 21:16.36 | Aenslaed | Daemona: do you ever heal your party when healing is needed? |
| 21:16.45 | Daemona | sure, VE ;) |
| 21:16.52 | Aenslaed | direct heals i mean |
| 21:17.05 | Daemona | i use grid |
| 21:17.06 | pastamancer | I keep grid in the center of my screen |
| 21:17.12 | yacoob | Hilfe. |
| 21:17.13 | Daemona | and clique |
| 21:17.17 | yacoob | Stupid PUG evening. |
| 21:17.19 | Daemona | yacoob english pls |
| 21:17.20 | kenlyric | move the player frame down near the player :) |
| 21:17.28 | yacoob | and I mean morons. |
| 21:17.36 | Gnarfoz | yacoob: Hilfe -.- |
| 21:17.40 | Gnarfoz | me too : |
| 21:17.42 | Hjalte | Let me get this right - Is Cartographer supposed to change zone on the map, when you fly into a new zone or is it some addon that is changing? It is very annoying when watching instanceloot or so on an instance map and then fly across a zone border. |
| 21:17.57 | Arrowmaster | another addon |
| 21:18.16 | Mikma | Hjalte: that's a feature! |
| 21:18.24 | undu | Hjalte: I think it's default blizzard behaviour. |
| 21:18.34 | kenlyric | default blizz behavior. |
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| 21:18.41 | kenlyric | happens on stock too. |
| 21:18.48 | Arrowmaster | since when? |
| 21:18.51 | undu | Since always. |
| 21:18.53 | Aenslaed | Daemona: as a rogue, you can agree that a party frame is of minimal use though, and as a healer, its very useful to have all 5 members of a party close together visually |
| 21:19.01 | kenlyric | since at least 2.0.1 |
| 21:19.04 | Arrowmaster | i know for a fact that it wasnt always |
| 21:19.07 | undu | :) |
| 21:19.16 | undu | I dunno, happened to me as far as I can remember. |
| 21:19.25 | undu | Sitting on a gryphon, checking map. Then poof. |
| 21:19.25 | kenlyric | I know for a fact it did in 2.0.1 because I had no mods for a few days then. |
| 21:19.29 | Proph_ | is PitBull fixed with all the crashing after leaving a BG/arena??? |
| 21:20.55 | Elkano | Proph_, hopefully yes |
| 21:21.26 | Proph_ | hehe cool |
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| 21:23.04 | Daemona | Aenslaed thats why i use Grid ;) |
| 21:23.11 | Daemona | i hide party |
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| 21:23.30 | Daemona | have my unitframe, a target frame, the focus frame mid center |
| 21:23.34 | Daemona | and grid lower center |
| 21:23.34 | Aenslaed | I dont like grid. Looks awful and sraidframes is better in a raid setting. |
| 21:23.46 | Daemona | personal preference |
| 21:23.55 | Daemona | but you dont need party frames ;) |
| 21:23.57 | kenlyric | you really just have to get used to it. I hated it when it when I used RDX |
| 21:24.05 | Gnarfoz | "looks awful" -> options |
| 21:24.14 | Aenslaed | not in a raid setting yes. I dont have party frames. However, in a 5 man or arena setting, i need party frames |
| 21:24.17 | kenlyric | but I'm a junky for all the information that little grid box gives me. |
| 21:24.18 | Daemona | and it doesnt look awful, its functional ;) |
| 21:24.26 | kenlyric | just wish I could get it to reliably work on showing missing buffs. |
| 21:24.45 | trh | is there a way to check if a tablet is visible/opened? |
| 21:24.46 | Daemona | kenlyric XRS |
| 21:25.37 | kenlyric | does it let me only see the buffs I care about? |
| 21:25.47 | Daemona | it doesnt show anything |
| 21:25.52 | Daemona | unless you configure it ;) |
| 21:26.06 | Daemona | its the grid for buffs ;) |
| 21:26.26 | kenlyric | it'd be so much easier if the check I wrote in grid actually worked. |
| 21:26.42 | kenlyric | but it gets dumb about prayers and non-prayers. |
| 21:26.43 | Aenslaed | Daemona: it may be functional, but it can be both aesthetically pleasing and functional. I found that with sraidframes. |
| 21:27.00 | kenlyric | too much eye travel Aenslaed! :) |
| 21:27.27 | Aenslaed | not really. Sort by classes and keep the relevant classes together. |
| 21:27.36 | Daemona | dunno, somehow i got the feeling Aenslaed plays the game for a beautiful interface |
| 21:27.37 | Daemona | :X |
| 21:28.06 | Aenslaed | but yes, eye travel is the whole reason of this. Keeping player frame close to the center of the screen, and having a duplicate player frame with the party frame off to the side for healing purposes. No 4 and 1 kind of eye travel. |
| 21:28.13 | hugo | ckknight please look, i dled the standalone libs, but one is red, the fubar lib, it says depency ace2, dewdrop and tablelib, so i downloaded these 3 and still red, so i checked the dir's and the TabletLib directory si empty? |
| 21:28.25 | hugo | there's just .!!!StandaloneLibraries placeholder.txt |
| 21:28.30 | ckknight | Dude, download all the damn libs |
| 21:28.37 | Aenslaed | Daemona: if I didn't want a nice looking interface, I'd stick with the default interface. It is full functioned |
| 21:28.39 | hugo | i did |
| 21:28.53 | hugo | i them all in addons dir |
| 21:28.55 | ckknight | you clearly didn't |
| 21:28.56 | hugo | this one is empty |
| 21:29.08 | ckknight | maybe even read the readme.txt file in !!!StandaloneLibraries |
| 21:29.08 | Daemona | sorry Aenslaed, the default raid interface is notfunctional |
| 21:29.50 | kenlyric | it shows unit frames you can click on. That's functional. |
| 21:29.59 | deltron | did they just add illidan to the wow forums? |
| 21:30.09 | Aenslaed | It shows hp, it shows a health bar, it shows debuffs. You can live with that. Everything else is just making it look pretty. |
| 21:30.16 | Proph_ | Aloft takes a lot of damn resources it seems |
| 21:30.21 | hugo | i did i got em installed.. |
| 21:30.40 | ckknight | Aenslaed: or providing more information |
| 21:30.47 | ckknight | such as who they're targetting and such |
| 21:31.27 | Aenslaed | ckknight: i'm just countering his comment |
| 21:31.27 | Ominous | if you have a string say "target" how can you use that to access the table target |
| 21:31.27 | yacoob | question is, where 'useful' ends and 'control freak' starts :) |
| 21:31.28 | yacoob | I'm looking at my gf's ui and it looks like f16 HUD |
| 21:31.42 | Aenslaed | ckknight: but yeah. Can you add the option to pitbul to include the player in the party frame? |
| 21:31.45 | kenlyric | so it has a Fly and a Land button? |
| 21:31.57 | Aenslaed | ckknight: so if this is enabled, there is both a player frame, and a 5th member in the party frame as yourself? |
| 21:32.02 | kenlyric | Aenslaed: that would require a lot of work. |
| 21:32.13 | ckknight | no |
| 21:32.13 | kenlyric | since blizzard's own party frame doesn't include the player. |
| 21:32.24 | ckknight | sorry, Aenslaed |
| 21:32.28 | ckknight | 1) no need |
| 21:32.32 | ckknight | 2) Blizzard doesn't allow it |
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| 21:32.50 | kenlyric | I just move my player frame under my party. |
| 21:32.53 | kenlyric | when in a party. |
| 21:32.55 | yacoob | is it just me or there has not been any good wow movies recently? |
| 21:32.58 | kenlyric | so i remember to heal me :) |
| 21:33.08 | kenlyric | it's not just you. |
| 21:33.20 | Ominous | anyone ^^? |
| 21:33.20 | pastamancer | I hate forgetting to heal myself |
| 21:33.24 | kenlyric | even spiffy has been slacking. |
| 21:33.32 | Aenslaed | kenlyric: I play a hybrid. I dps till I may need heals on myself, or I am healing everyone. |
| 21:33.34 | kenlyric | his last two wow movies were kinda suck. |
| 21:33.47 | pastamancer | Ominous: getglobal("target") |
| 21:33.49 | Aenslaed | kenlyric: was hoping to merge a rogue UI and a healer UI together. |
| 21:33.56 | yacoob | kenlyric, no Return 2, no Escape from Orgrimar... |
| 21:34.01 | Aenslaed | in terms of ui |
| 21:34.11 | Saroz | How does the Eval Tracker work in Expo? |
| 21:34.13 | pastamancer | Ominous: I'll bet that whatever you're trying to do, there's a better way |
| 21:34.18 | kenlyric | my party frames are prett close to the side of my char, so it's not a lot to travel eye-wise. |
| 21:34.28 | yacoob | Tauren Brothers 2 wasn't that good neither |
| 21:34.37 | Ominous | pastamancer: yea make the table addon.table not local table |
| 21:34.44 | Aenslaed | kenlyric: I wanted to move the player frame bottom center just below my character's feet. |
| 21:34.52 | Aenslaed | target frame to the right of that. |
| 21:34.58 | kenlyric | that's where my player frame sits. |
| 21:35.01 | Aenslaed | and have party frame top left. |
| 21:35.18 | Aenslaed | keeps the center of my screen undisturbed. |
| 21:35.27 | yacoob | perhaps all folks with ideas dropped the game, or turned hardcore? |
| 21:35.49 | Cyrez | ckknight: Found a bug with the 2D portraits in PitBull. |
| 21:35.56 | ckknight | okay |
| 21:35.58 | ckknight | I gotta go |
| 21:36.10 | ckknight | hold onto that thought |
| 21:36.17 | Cyrez | Okay, sure thing. :) |
| 21:37.07 | Cyrez | I'll take and crop to screenies to show what is happening while you're gone, then. |
| 21:38.03 | yacoob | ...there, deleted wow. Now, shall I sell my crappy account? :) |
| 21:38.42 | knarf- | nah, just delete it |
| 21:39.39 | hugo | i downloaded all the libs.. but one lib i need called TabetLib |
| 21:39.39 | hugo | is empty ;o |
| 21:39.39 | hugo | and then one another lib dont work cause it has TabletLib as dependency |
| 21:39.41 | knarf- | so far so good, both auctioneer and ratingbuster works |
| 21:39.42 | hugo | i'll tell you witch one is it |
| 21:39.51 | kenlyric | destroy your gear and delet your chars. |
| 21:40.16 | yacoob | kenlyric, lower your shields and surrender your ship :) |
| 21:40.16 | Gngsk | then have it restored in a month |
| 21:40.19 | kenlyric | I did that twice and got them restored. |
| 21:40.25 | knarf- | hugo run aceupdater to actually downlaod the libs :) |
| 21:40.35 | kenlyric | and then got banned 4 months later. |
| 21:40.40 | yacoob | for? |
| 21:40.44 | Gngsk | cheating |
| 21:40.48 | Gngsk | kenlyric is a dirty cheater |
| 21:40.57 | deltron | lol |
| 21:41.08 | yacoob | (what's funny, Polish largest auction site has separate category for 'accounts, gold, items'. That's so wrong.) |
| 21:41.47 | hugo | Ok problem: Lib: FubarPlugin-2.0 it has dependencies ace2, dewdrop,tabtletLib ok? that's the one lib from standalone lib's pack ok, so i additionally download Ace2, dewdrop, and TabletLIb, but the TabletLib directory is _empty_ |
| 21:42.00 | hugo | ok now can you please read this knarf- ? |
| 21:42.04 | kenlyric | cheating is cheating, botting is botting. Cheating provides the player with an unfair advantage. I was still always poor! |
| 21:42.09 | hugo | i downloaded all the libs........................... |
| 21:42.12 | Arrowmaster | those are all in the standalone libs pack already |
| 21:42.19 | kenlyric | wow, my IQ is going down every hour this goes on. |
| 21:42.29 | hugo | but the Lib: FubarPlugin-2.0 is red says depency missing |
| 21:42.33 | knarf- | hugo get it from somewhere else then |
| 21:42.43 | hugo | i got it from WAU |
| 21:42.57 | Arrowmaster | what does it say are the dependancys |
| 21:43.09 | knarf- | Arrowmaster his problem is that TabletLib is empty ^^ |
| 21:43.22 | hugo | exactly |
| 21:43.24 | hugo | thats my problem |
| 21:43.27 | knarf- | well download the addon then |
| 21:43.28 | knarf- | ... |
| 21:43.31 | knarf- | or lib as it is |
| 21:43.32 | hugo | i did |
| 21:43.32 | Funkeh` | hugo: if you are using WAU download the folder 'StandaloneLibraries' that will get all of them np |
| 21:43.43 | hugo | i downloaded the TabletLIb |
| 21:44.10 | hugo | Funkeh` i got this.. |
| 21:44.23 | hugo | all the addons libs are unpacked in my Addons\ |
| 21:44.25 | Arrowmaster | i just checked and tabletlib zip is fine |
| 21:44.39 | hugo | ok i try dl it manually instead WAU |
| 21:44.49 | Funkeh` | hugo: if you are using the latest WAU 1.7, it will auto update the empty folders |
| 21:44.50 | Arrowmaster | WAU downloads the zips |
| 21:45.18 | Amian | hugo: WAU 1.7 does the trick i just tested it going from embedded to !!!standalone |
| 21:45.19 | hugo | yes and if you open the dir there are 2 files only |
| 21:45.25 | hugo | .!!!StandaloneLibraries placeholder.txt |
| 21:45.32 | Arrowmaster | thats ment to be there |
| 21:45.35 | hugo | i got 1.7 |
| 21:45.44 | yacoob | good boy, but lay down the rocket launcher. |
| 21:45.51 | kenlyric | curses! |
| 21:45.56 | hugo | but Arrowmaster the addon says depency mising tabletlib |
| 21:46.04 | yacoob | Allright, allright. Shoot at Funkeh`. |
| 21:46.06 | kenlyric | omg, I need to play quake 1 as soon as I get home. |
| 21:46.19 | hugo | :X |
| 21:46.23 | Arrowmaster | is tabletlib checked in WAU? |
| 21:46.29 | kenlyric | I miss quake deathmatch... levels that actually had structure. |
| 21:46.42 | yacoob | my coworker seems to be enjoying this kind of activity |
| 21:46.44 | deltron | http://www.last.fm/music/Walls+of+Jericho/_/No+Saving+Me <3 that song |
| 21:46.55 | deltron | I miss quake 2 |
| 21:47.03 | yacoob | it looks... strange. At least, after I played warsong gulch, I just need to have classes with my ctf :D |
| 21:47.47 | kenlyric | deathmatch is really all I've liked, though I did enjoy UT2003 tremendously, and enemy territory. |
| 21:48.04 | kenlyric | it's why I dislike wow pvp so much. Not enough deathmatch. |
| 21:48.15 | deltron | UT 2000 is the best UT evar |
| 21:48.15 | yacoob | kenlyric, go Guild Wars :) |
| 21:48.38 | kenlyric | I was an expert node capture guy in ut2k3 |
| 21:48.43 | deltron | I can't wait for warhammer online |
| 21:49.05 | yacoob | kenlyric, it has all the pvp you can dream of, and it requires more brains |
| 21:49.58 | kenlyric | d |
| 21:50.11 | kenlyric | I just don't think rpg and pvp work together, in my brain. I want guns. |
| 21:51.03 | Arrowmaster | which is why i loved anarchy online and neocron |
| 21:51.22 | Ominous | ffs i cant get onto the test realm |
| 21:51.38 | kenlyric | whenever I played wsg, I thought it would be awesome if it was 1/4 the size, had no objectives, and was free for all. |
| 21:51.56 | kenlyric | but of course, with classes that would kinda suck, especially for me :) |
| 21:52.21 | yacoob | kenlyric, well, if you take out the teamwork, squishes have it hard, most of the time |
| 21:52.45 | kenlyric | but in ET, even as a medic I h ad a gun which could kill you :) |
| 21:52.51 | yacoob | which reminds me, that I must try team fortress. |
| 21:53.12 | Arrowmaster | cant wait for tf2 |
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| 21:54.16 | kenlyric | I really need to finish hl2:ep1 |
| 21:54.20 | Arrowmaster | me too |
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| 21:54.39 | kenlyric | or, start it again. I think I lostt the Saved games. |
| 21:54.52 | kenlyric | stupid games, storing things in their install directories! |
| 21:55.43 | hyperChipmunk | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:56.08 | hyperChipmunk | or rather, it did, back when i used windows |
| 21:57.10 | kenlyric | of course, a consensus about where to stored saved game data in the user's folder would help, too. |
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| 21:59.44 | Guillotine | hmm. what library would I want to use for moving frames around/resizing? Something like what Visor used to be probably |
| 22:01.18 | hugo | <Arrowmaster> is tabletlib checked in WAU? yes under Package Contents |
| 22:01.30 | hugo | i just finished raid, so going dl it manually now and see |
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| 22:02.51 | Aiiane | kenlyric: I need to finish HL2, period :P |
| 22:03.25 | hugo | see i downloaded TabletLib-r33319.8.zip and it's full of files |
| 22:03.43 | hugo | but via WAU it was empty |
| 22:04.18 | hugo | cause standalonelib disabling it (imo) while it's needed for one lib to work inside standalone libs, so it's like cursed circle as i see it |
| 22:06.12 | hugo | see |
| 22:06.18 | hugo | the addon is ok now, not red anymore |
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| 22:07.20 | hugo | YES |
| 22:07.25 | hugo | ALL ADDONS WORKING :D |
| 22:07.26 | hugo | wee |
| 22:07.32 | ckknight | hey all |
| 22:07.35 | ckknight | hooray |
| 22:07.46 | hugo | thanks :D |
| 22:08.02 | hugo | now can i tell u something constructive i've found out in all this ckknight |
| 22:08.03 | hugo | the problem i found |
| 22:08.20 | ckknight | k... |
| 22:08.24 | hugo | :D |
| 22:08.27 | hugo | bout the libs |
| 22:08.37 | hugo | u never get em all work using WAU |
| 22:08.48 | hugo | 1) you dl !!!StandaloneLibraries |
| 22:09.09 | hugo | 2/ then you update all without externals |
| 22:09.35 | hugo | 3) login to game and the Lib: Fubarplugin-2.0 is red says missing dependency Tabletlib |
| 22:09.40 | Gnarfoz | hrm |
| 22:09.47 | ckknight | dude, install TabletLib |
| 22:09.50 | hugo | and you can't dl Tabletlib using WAU the !!!StandaloneLibraries are disabling it |
| 22:09.57 | ckknight | no |
| 22:09.58 | ckknight | just no |
| 22:10.02 | ckknight | you're doing it wrong |
| 22:10.04 | hugo | so 4) you dl Tabletlib manually from wowace.com/files |
| 22:10.06 | hugo | then all works |
| 22:10.12 | ckknight | okay, whatever |
| 22:10.20 | hugo | that's what hapened to me, the TabletLib was empty when i dl it from WAU |
| 22:10.35 | hugo | im only tellin my story as it could help others (mayb) :) |
| 22:10.48 | Gnarfoz | drr |
| 22:10.52 | hugo | anyway, all works :D |
| 22:10.52 | hugo | wee |
| 22:11.01 | Gnarfoz | http://ace.pastey.net/17761 <- On disbanding one of the worst PUGs I've yet had |
| 22:11.05 | hugo | just that i got like 30more directories now in addons lol |
| 22:11.07 | Gnarfoz | (hard crash wow) |
| 22:11.24 | Gnarfoz | is this still possibly addon related? |
| 22:12.04 | knarf- | Think I found out what bugs my auctioneer and ratingbuster :> |
| 22:12.06 | ckknight | you have PitBull running? |
| 22:12.11 | ckknight | Gnarfoz: ^--- |
| 22:12.11 | Gnarfoz | I do indeed |
| 22:12.14 | ckknight | okay |
| 22:12.17 | ckknight | fully updated? |
| 22:12.19 | CIA-31 | 03ominous * r33841 10FuBar_ClassTimerFu/ (18 files in 4 dirs): |
| 22:12.19 | CIA-31 | FuBar_ClassTimerFu: |
| 22:12.19 | CIA-31 | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:12.19 | CIA-31 | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:12.19 | CIA-31 | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:12.19 | CIA-31 | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:12.33 | Gnarfoz | updated before I logged in, lemme see which rev that is |
| 22:12.43 | Gnarfoz | 33814 |
| 22:13.09 | snirks | thx for putting me in controls of the fights, ckknight |
| 22:14.13 | ckknight | snirks: how do you mean? |
| 22:14.51 | hugo | enabled all my addons now |
| 22:14.53 | hugo | all works :D |
| 22:15.06 | hugo | now i go try run WAU and see what happens :D |
| 22:15.10 | snirks | ckknight: you made pitbull, i tried pitbull, im now using pitbull and im a better maintank |
| 22:15.17 | ckknight | ah. |
| 22:15.20 | ckknight | right |
| 22:15.24 | ckknight | same thing happened to me |
| 22:15.27 | ckknight | MTing is a lot easier |
| 22:15.29 | hugo | grats snirks |
| 22:15.30 | ckknight | healing too |
| 22:15.40 | ckknight | DPSers are a dime a dozen, so no one really cares about them |
| 22:15.40 | hugo | what's the point ? |
| 22:15.43 | snirks | i got frayed tether of the drowned today |
| 22:15.45 | deltron | it saved my love life |
| 22:15.49 | deltron | oh wait I don't have one :( |
| 22:15.52 | knarf- | how the hell is tanking made more easy by pitbull ? |
| 22:15.54 | snirks | what point, hugo ? |
| 22:16.01 | hugo | i mean how does unitframe make you better MT |
| 22:16.08 | CIA-31 | 03ominous * r33842 10FuBar_ClassTimerFu/ (. Core.lua): FuBar_ClassTimerFu: keywords and externals |
| 22:16.14 | snirks | maybe because they were better than what i was using |
| 22:16.31 | hugo | i mean some specific function ? |
| 22:17.04 | hugo | im just interested that's all |
| 22:17.28 | snirks | can you possibly concieve that im trying to give credit to an unpaid guy that is making a super addon for WoW? |
| 22:17.33 | hugo | or you mean cause 'they look better' i tought it's about some feature your old didn't have |
| 22:17.34 | deltron | give pitbull a whirl |
| 22:17.49 | hugo | im not negative here man |
| 22:17.52 | deltron | I like the combat lines |
| 22:17.59 | hugo | im normally asking as im interesting in the improvement |
| 22:18.02 | ckknight | stop being such a downer, hugo |
| 22:18.03 | hugo | if you understand me |
| 22:18.04 | ckknight | gah |
| 22:18.07 | hugo | .... |
| 22:18.07 | deltron | the PitBull_InteractLines |
| 22:18.11 | hugo | you both got me wrong |
| 22:18.18 | hugo | my english aint perfect, i don't mean any bad |
| 22:18.23 | knarf- | ckknight your frames a great, i'm jsut wondering how they can make someone a better maintank :P |
| 22:18.24 | ckknight | would somebody like to help me test something that may solve all the PitBull crash issues? |
| 22:18.32 | hugo | me |
| 22:18.33 | hugo | :) |
| 22:18.36 | deltron | hugo: you can get target of a target of a target of a target of a target of a target of a target of a target of a target |
| 22:18.37 | hugo | ckknight you got me wrong man |
| 22:18.38 | snirks | yes ckknight |
| 22:18.39 | ckknight | knarf-: having the Banzai stuff makes it very easy |
| 22:18.46 | knarf- | ahh |
| 22:18.54 | deltron | banzai was awesome in ag_uf |
| 22:18.57 | knarf- | I had Banzai before pitbull too :) |
| 22:19.06 | knarf- | well |
| 22:19.16 | deltron | I like banzai in pitbull's raid frames (when they behave that is) |
| 22:19.25 | Ominous | argh god dammit cant get onto the frigging test realm |
| 22:19.25 | knarf- | apparently I had a mod called SpecialEventsEmbeded, that fucked up auctioneer and ratingbusters load :> |
| 22:19.30 | knarf- | \o~ |
| 22:19.31 | hugo | all i wanted know is why better MT ... as point of interest as i like all addons.. and you all turn on me like im a downer or whatever... |
| 22:19.44 | hyperChipmunk | lol hugo i think ckknight just messin' with you |
| 22:20.31 | hugo | no hes mad at me |
| 22:20.31 | hugo | ;s |
| 22:20.31 | ckknight | yea, I was just messing with you |
| 22:20.31 | hyperChipmunk | snirks was the one sniping |
| 22:20.32 | ckknight | snirks: do you have access to BGs or party members? |
| 22:20.32 | Kinkx | I can't remember what this loot system is called, where officers decide who gets the loot based on who gets the most use out of it... whats that system called again? o_o |
| 22:20.32 | snirks | sure make me the big bad Worf |
| 22:20.33 | hyperChipmunk | dude, worf is awesome |
| 22:20.33 | hugo | sorry for all the spam today i was very unhappy of my addons stoped working :> |
| 22:20.36 | hyperChipmunk | i wish i was worf |
| 22:20.41 | snirks | i wish i was picard |
| 22:20.48 | cotangent | loot council? |
| 22:20.50 | *** join/#wowace nymbia (n=nymbia@71-218-159-27.hlrn.qwest.net) |
| 22:20.54 | Kinkx | yes! |
| 22:21.01 | Kinkx | Thank you |
| 22:21.03 | snirks | ckknight: let me log in |
| 22:21.10 | hyperChipmunk | godloot |
| 22:21.16 | ckknight | it'll be an AceEvent change. Install standalone Ace2 |
| 22:21.21 | hyperChipmunk | was what we called it in my EQ guild |
| 22:21.39 | Kinkx | hehe |
| 22:21.45 | snirks | what eqguild was that |
| 22:22.14 | snirks | ckknight: got standalonelibs. is that ok? |
| 22:22.20 | hugo | oh lol EQ, did you guys seen Jimmy: The World of Warcraft Story ? |
| 22:22.26 | ckknight | that should work. Is Ace2 an addon in your Addons folder? |
| 22:22.28 | hyperChipmunk | Caer Cadarn |
| 22:22.35 | snirks | yes |
| 22:22.38 | ckknight | k |
| 22:22.56 | Cyrez | ckknight: Ready for that bug? ^^ |
| 22:23.01 | ckknight | Cyrez: no, hang on |
| 22:23.06 | Cyrez | Otays. |
| 22:23.15 | snirks | i was in darkwind |
| 22:23.18 | hugo | seems like not, i give you link it's best movie of the year :O |
| 22:23.38 | Cyrez | I got screenies. Best way to explain it. |
| 22:24.06 | hyperChipmunk | we had a few world-firsts of PoP elemental gods, but didn't get so much publicity since our guild was mostly Euro |
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| 22:24.19 | hugo | Ok here it is, the best wow movie in history :D http://youtube.com/watch?v=xeUhSjuhQYE |
| 22:24.25 | ckknight | Cyrez: ah, link it |
| 22:24.37 | snirks | darkwind was euro too |
| 22:24.43 | snirks | we had potime CT world first |
| 22:24.50 | snirks | yours truly had killshot :-) |
| 22:24.58 | hyperChipmunk | yea i recognize the guild name |
| 22:25.01 | snirks | im still proud of that |
| 22:25.12 | hyperChipmunk | hehe |
| 22:25.18 | snirks | i miss eq sometimes |
| 22:25.40 | ckknight | snirks: replace the AceEvent-2.0\AceEvent-2.0.lua with this: http://ace.pastey.net/17764 |
| 22:26.08 | snirks | do i need to log to desktop or will char select/coonsole reloadui work? |
| 22:26.22 | hugo | err.. ops.. one more question pls ckknight ? :O] i got all working now and if i login there just one (req) error: Quixote-1.0\Quixote-1.0.lua:19: Quixote-1.0 requires Deformat-2.0. ... do i really need this or i can ignore the error ? thanks :> |
| 22:26.37 | nymbia | you need it ;) |
| 22:26.41 | ckknight | just get it |
| 22:26.46 | hugo | ok |
| 22:26.50 | ckknight | snirks: /rl will work |
| 22:27.14 | snirks | ack, ck :/ marking in firefox gives me the line numbers |
| 22:27.28 | ckknight | go down to the bottom with the editbox |
| 22:27.34 | snirks | which i fixed |
| 22:28.57 | hugo | lol again i try install Deformat and : Deformat - Has no public versions - Skipping and inside again those two files created by Standalonelibs i think? so why must i download it manually again? i don't get it :Op |
| 22:29.01 | snirks | ckknight: ok, doing /rl now |
| 22:29.16 | hugo | it just created an empty dir ;D |
| 22:29.17 | ckknight | okay |
| 22:29.21 | snirks | done |
| 22:29.25 | Arrowmaster | hugo: do an update with skip version check enabled |
| 22:29.31 | ckknight | snirks: then either do an instance or some BGs |
| 22:29.40 | ckknight | something with party members that can join/leave/disband |
| 22:30.07 | hugo | ahh didnt know about this Arrowmaster i try thanks |
| 22:30.59 | snirks | ok entering eots now |
| 22:31.03 | hyperChipmunk | snirks: =) my claim to EQ fame was being the first to figure out the Ogre illusion mask quest; it had bards and rogues stymied for months >8) |
| 22:31.36 | snirks | thats some accomplishment |
| 22:31.55 | hugo | oh Arrowmaster i got this enabled already |
| 22:31.59 | snirks | ckknight: all looking normal so far |
| 22:32.09 | hyperChipmunk | yea, devs even congratulated me personally; that was pretty cool |
| 22:32.09 | ckknight | okay |
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| 22:32.25 | hugo | it just created directory Deformat and inside is 2files: .!!!StandaloneLibraries placeholder.txt so i must download it manually again |
| 22:32.27 | ckknight | snirks: well, keep going, try to join/leave/disband as much as you can |
| 22:32.32 | ckknight | possibly in combat, I dunno |
| 22:32.49 | snirks | lol a GM in our guild worked in france, but sony was putting down that EQ office, so before he got sacked he did GM stuff that could be questioned if was allowed |
| 22:32.58 | hyperChipmunk | lol |
| 22:32.59 | snirks | like making me ally with tunare (from kos, i was welf) |
| 22:33.12 | hyperChipmunk | nice |
| 22:33.38 | snirks | This application has encountered a critical error: |
| 22:33.39 | snirks | ERROR #132 (0x85100084) Fatal Exception |
| 22:33.39 | snirks | Program:D:\Games\World of Warcraft - addonsfromscratch\WoW.exe |
| 22:33.39 | snirks | Exception:0xC0000005 (ACCESS_VIOLATION) at 001B:007DF983 |
| 22:33.41 | hyperChipmunk | wtg |
| 22:34.31 | snirks | i had to go around and shout in butcherblock to the noobs that i had sinned, and that i wished to be forgiven by tunare |
| 22:34.35 | snirks | plz |
| 22:34.39 | snirks | ckknight: i crashed |
| 22:34.51 | ckknight | :-( |
| 22:35.20 | snirks | how do you debug that? isnt that quite hard? |
| 22:35.29 | snirks | i mean, you cant collect the bug because you crash right? |
| 22:35.29 | ckknight | if by hard you mean impossible |
| 22:35.34 | snirks | yeah thats what i mean |
| 22:35.36 | hugo | Arrowmaster i would really like to unsterstand this issue as it's with all libs that are outside the standalonelibs package, i try like download deformant or tabletlib and it just creates empty dir with the two files i said, so im dling the manually, but why it hapens to me, don't you know please? |
| 22:35.52 | clad|sleep | What color should Prayer of Mending be in perfectRaid? |
| 22:35.55 | Arrowmaster | i have no clue |
| 22:36.14 | hyperChipmunk | hm, have buggrabber echo the error in /say and check your chat log? |
| 22:36.18 | hugo | light orange |
| 22:36.24 | Hjalte | Some kind of yellow :) |
| 22:36.31 | hyperChipmunk | there's an errorlog too |
| 22:36.41 | NightHawkTheSane | mauve! |
| 22:36.43 | snirks | well i could dump the error log |
| 22:36.49 | snirks | havent closed it yet |
| 22:36.51 | clad|sleep | hugo: ooh that could be nice.. care to pick a hex color? =) |
| 22:36.54 | snirks | and u can hex the memory |
| 22:37.03 | hugo | oh well im noob :P |
| 22:37.08 | hyperChipmunk | i mean, there's an error log |
| 22:37.09 | hugo | i dunno hex colors sorry |
| 22:37.20 | hugo | don't know the numbers ;) |
| 22:37.41 | ckknight | snirks: no need |
| 22:38.00 | hugo | yellow is rogue, and dark orange poison, so something beetwen to recognize clad|sleep i think |
| 22:38.09 | ckknight | clad|sleep, ffcf7f? |
| 22:38.13 | hugo | well atleast on my bars |
| 22:38.22 | hyperChipmunk | there's an Errors directory in your wow folder |
| 22:38.32 | hyperChipmunk | usually the Error.txt in there is pretty helpful |
| 22:38.50 | snirks | hyperChipmunk: yeah its just the same dump that you get when the game crashes, that you can send to blizzard |
| 22:39.13 | clad|sleep | ckknight: i'll check in a sec |
| 22:39.18 | hyperChipmunk | clad|sleep: i usually take the color average from the spell icon; that's how i got the FD color for you for PRaid |
| 22:39.33 | chuckg | clad|sleep, best tool in the world: http://www.ficml.org/jemimap/style/color/wheel.html |
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| 22:39.39 | snirks | dumps mem + loaded dlls |
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| 22:40.31 | clad|sleep | ckknight: I think that works, thanks |
| 22:40.39 | clad|sleep | was going for yellow/orange so that hits it perfect |
| 22:41.06 | ckknight | :-) |
| 22:41.29 | ckknight | still have no damn idea on how to reproduce the PitBull crash myself |
| 22:42.04 | snirks | you mean it doesnt work for you_ |
| 22:42.07 | snirks | ? |
| 22:42.17 | ckknight | I can't seem to crash it |
| 22:42.31 | snirks | hmm |
| 22:43.27 | snirks | and its pitbull that crashes it? i mean aceevent2.0 isnt tied to pitbull in any way other than being a lib (that other addons uses aswell?) |
| 22:43.33 | snirks | maybe its something else |
| 22:43.56 | snirks | but i know only so much about programming |
| 22:47.16 | nymbia | well |
| 22:47.24 | _neuron_ | what Pitbull crash? |
| 22:47.47 | ckknight | snirks: it was a theory |
| 22:47.52 | nymbia | i know that the only time i actually got the crash was when i was reproducing the aceevent bug -- and that was with aguf loaded, not pitbull |
| 22:48.12 | ckknight | _neuron_: for some, if you disband the group or the group changes, it crashes WoW with a #132 error |
| 22:48.16 | Chompers | my crash was a one off |
| 22:48.20 | Chompers | its never happened before |
| 22:48.26 | nymbia | so maybe try with pitbull and old version of aceevent? |
| 22:48.47 | _neuron_ | so bg's might be a good way of triggering it |
| 22:49.09 | snirks | ah well whatever it is, if you need more help just let me know. nothing to do atm |
| 22:49.35 | hugo | btw what hapens if i click update with externals? what it actually do cause i always been using without in wau ;] |
| 22:49.57 | snirks | it downloads the needed libs for each addon |
| 22:50.06 | snirks | so you'll have multiple |
| 22:50.17 | hugo | i see |
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| 22:50.46 | hugo | well g night and thanks for help |
| 22:50.55 | snirks | nn |
| 22:51.30 | hugo | thx ckknight and all :> |
| 22:51.40 | ckknight | you're welcome |
| 22:51.57 | ckknight | snirks: if you really want to help, here's what you do: |
| 22:52.06 | ckknight | disable all PitBull modules, try to reproduce the crash |
| 22:52.11 | ckknight | if it crashes, tell me |
| 22:52.19 | ckknight | otherwise, enable half of the modules, check for crash |
| 22:52.27 | ckknight | until you can pinpoint it to a single module or PitBull core |
| 22:52.31 | ckknight | it's painful, I know |
| 22:52.47 | snirks | its almost like clearing ssc trash |
| 22:52.54 | nymbia | ckknight: someone on the forum thread pitpointed the rev i think |
| 22:52.55 | Chompers | i hear that sucks balls |
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| 22:53.06 | ckknight | not the revision, nymbia |
| 22:53.13 | ckknight | that doesn't matter to me |
| 22:53.20 | nymbia | ok |
| 22:53.20 | ckknight | I need to know whether it's module or core |
| 22:53.24 | snirks | ckknight: what do you mean by module_ |
| 22:53.32 | snirks | ckknight: like party or raid? |
| 22:53.35 | ckknight | snirks: Health is a module, for example |
| 22:53.38 | ckknight | Mana is a module |
| 22:53.43 | ckknight | it's the folders inside PitBull |
| 22:53.48 | snirks | alright |
| 22:53.52 | ckknight | so disable them in the TOC (by prefixing with #) |
| 22:54.01 | ckknight | disable em all to start off with |
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| 22:54.14 | ckknight | PitBull won't show, cause there's nothing to show, but it'll be running |
| 22:55.43 | ckknight | and try to crash it in that state |
| 22:57.03 | snirks | are each of the layots\ files a module? |
| 22:57.20 | ckknight | no, don't worry about that |
| 22:57.21 | snirks | or only the ones starting from line 37_ |
| 22:58.01 | ckknight | the ones like Health\Health.lua |
| 22:58.03 | ckknight | Mana\Mana.lua |
| 22:58.07 | snirks | gotcha |
| 22:58.49 | ckknight | btw, nymbia, good job on Spark |
| 22:59.56 | nymbia | thanks :) |
| 23:01.22 | Funkeh` | ckknight: im sitll getting the errors about '?' |
| 23:01.34 | ckknight | lines |
| 23:01.45 | Funkeh` | RaidTarget:36 attempt to index field '?' a nil value |
| 23:01.58 | Funkeh` | Combat: 53 |
| 23:02.30 | Funkeh` | BarFader:133 attempt to index field 'db' a nil value, that s a new one |
| 23:03.02 | nymbia | Funkeh`: TERRIBLE |
| 23:03.11 | Funkeh` | index local on the 3rd error not index field :py |
| 23:03.29 | Funkeh` | ymbia: YOU ARE TEH SUCKIN |
| 23:03.36 | nymbia | :( |
| 23:03.38 | Funkeh` | nymbia: :p |
| 23:03.44 | nymbia | ;) |
| 23:09.12 | ckknight | Funkeh`: any debugstacks? |
| 23:09.20 | ckknight | Funkeh`: or even better, how to reproduce? |
| 23:09.21 | Funkeh` | urm |
| 23:09.30 | Funkeh` | cknight: usually leaving a big raid group |
| 23:09.36 | Funkeh` | ckknight: |
| 23:09.38 | Funkeh` | ffs |
| 23:09.48 | Funkeh` | ckknight: very rarely on leaving a 5 man |
| 23:09.55 | nymbia | i reiterate: TERRIBLE |
| 23:09.58 | ckknight | debugstack? |
| 23:10.07 | Funkeh` | nymbia :( |
| 23:10.14 | Funkeh` | ckknight: im on it |
| 23:10.30 | ckknight | that'd be what'd be handy |
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| 23:12.02 | hyperChipmunk | nymbia: your addon blows |
| 23:12.23 | nymbia | :'( |
| 23:12.59 | hyperChipmunk | spark doesn't do jack, yo |
| 23:13.08 | nymbia | sure it does |
| 23:13.28 | CIA-31 | 03ckknight * r33843 10PitBull/PitBull.lua: PitBull - put a check into :UpdateFrame on whether the unit actually exists. |
| 23:13.33 | hyperChipmunk | no, it don't |
| 23:13.39 | ckknight | yes it does |
| 23:14.08 | hyperChipmunk | well it's invisimable |
| 23:14.18 | kergoth | i should code a spark modification to make it adaptive to lag the way kenergy is |
| 23:14.19 | Funkeh` | cool game |
| 23:14.20 | nymbia | it's subtle ;) |
| 23:14.22 | Funkeh` | no it doesn't |
| 23:14.29 | hyperChipmunk | subtle? |
| 23:14.32 | nymbia | kergoth: that would be cool :D |
| 23:14.53 | hyperChipmunk | that's what someone else said, so i took screen diffs |
| 23:14.57 | nymbia | kergoth: or maybe just have kenergy take it over? |
| 23:15.03 | kergoth | thatd work too |
| 23:15.43 | CIA-31 | 03ckknight * r33844 10Ace2/AceEvent-2.0/AceEvent-2.0.lua: .AceEvent-2.0 - for bucket events that handle units, i.e. events that start with UNIT_, before firing off the final event, make sure that all the units inside the bucket exist. |
| 23:15.49 | hyperChipmunk | if it's subtle it's subchromatically so |
| 23:16.21 | nymbia | the default alpha IS 30% |
| 23:19.29 | snirks | ckknight: leaving av for ab with all modules commented out did not make me crash |
| 23:19.37 | ckknight | snirks: hrm |
| 23:19.53 | ckknight | snirks: one test right now, update PitBull and Ace2 and see if you crash, have all modules enabled |
| 23:19.57 | snirks | ckknight: thast with the aceevent 2.0 you gave me on pastebin |
| 23:20.08 | hyperChipmunk | that little tiny one-frame flash at the end of the bar? THAT's it? |
| 23:20.42 | nymbia | hyperChipmunk: huh? did it fall behind your mana bar? |
| 23:20.49 | hyperChipmunk | i was expecting some sort of movement that would let me know how long was left |
| 23:20.57 | nymbia | it is ;) |
| 23:21.06 | hyperChipmunk | a brief flash that says "time's up" is not useful |
| 23:21.13 | ckknight | snirks: yea, pretty much, the PitBull change is important, though |
| 23:21.17 | hyperChipmunk | i can tell when time's up because my mana moves faster =P |
| 23:21.45 | Guillotine | so there is no longer any library like what Visor used to be? -- A library to assist in moving/resizing frames, ect.? |
| 23:22.43 | hyperChipmunk | nymbia: no, dude; a one-frame flash at the end doesn't constitute movement on which a player can make decisions |
| 23:23.06 | hyperChipmunk | it should be like a mini castbar or something |
| 23:23.13 | nymbia | hyperChipmunk: it moves the whole length of the bar |
| 23:23.27 | ckknight | yea, it moves the whole length, quite neat |
| 23:23.41 | hyperChipmunk | not here it don't |
| 23:23.51 | nymbia | screenshot it or something |
| 23:23.53 | hyperChipmunk | i'm trying to take a screenshot, but it's too brief |
| 23:24.03 | nymbia | does it appear at the left end? |
| 23:24.32 | nymbia | and what are you casting? |
| 23:24.33 | hyperChipmunk | mend pet |
| 23:24.33 | nymbia | or rather-- where does it appear |
| 23:24.33 | hyperChipmunk | right end |
| 23:24.33 | hyperChipmunk | after 5 seconds |
| 23:24.33 | nymbia | hrm |
| 23:24.33 | hyperChipmunk | it flashes for one frame |
| 23:24.40 | nymbia | interesting, i'll have to snag a hunter and test that. |
| 23:25.02 | nymbia | try a non-channeled spell, see if it works right for that |
| 23:25.36 | hyperChipmunk | dude, i've been using it for two days, and this is the first anything i've seen |
| 23:25.53 | Kirkburn|afk | Rawr! |
| 23:26.08 | Kirkburn|afk | So apparently it's not CFs fault that it was breaking other Ace addons, it's Ace's fault =) |
| 23:26.27 | Kirkburn|afk | (People needs to update their Ace addons if they get them from UI sites) |
| 23:26.31 | renchap | ckknight: i also have the 132 error in warsong |
| 23:27.11 | ckknight | renchap: want to fully update PitBull, Ace2, and DogTag-1.0 |
| 23:27.18 | renchap | in progress |
| 23:27.20 | ckknight | and then see if you crash again? |
| 23:27.27 | hyperChipmunk | caught it! |
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| 23:32.56 | chuckg | Oh bugger. |
| 23:33.06 | chuckg | Updating agUF was not a good idea I guess. |
| 23:33.14 | hyperChipmunk | http://69.14.77.214/spark.png |
| 23:33.15 | chuckg | All my Ace Libs got updated and everything went to shite. |
| 23:33.22 | hyperChipmunk | had to bump it up to 100% alpha |
| 23:33.38 | snirks | ckknight: juts left AB raid, no crash |
| 23:33.44 | ckknight | hrm |
| 23:33.46 | snirks | now ill try to update like you said |
| 23:34.03 | snirks | couldnt do it before since i would have gotten deserter |
| 23:34.25 | ven | Spark disappears at ~90% of the mana bar for me. |
| 23:35.35 | nymbia | ven: which layout/portrait setting/portrait side is your player frame set to |
| 23:35.36 | ven | abf, no portrait |
| 23:36.02 | nymbia | ok, lemme take a look |
| 23:36.17 | snirks | ckknight: so maybe it was some pitbull module then since i didnt crash with all disabled |
| 23:36.38 | ckknight | snirks: possible |
| 23:36.45 | ckknight | but update anyway and reenable the modules |
| 23:36.54 | snirks | yep |
| 23:37.15 | Funkeh` | ckknight: http://ace.pastey.net/17813?lang=lua what i can make so far from running around bg, dunno if banzai has something to do with it, never seen that error before without buggrabber |
| 23:37.17 | sbu | meh |
| 23:37.21 | sbu | omnicc is evilk |
| 23:37.22 | hyperChipmunk | nymbia: http://69.14.77.214/spark.png |
| 23:37.23 | sbu | evil |
| 23:37.36 | Bibi | http://www.mmo-champion.com/index.php?topic=134.0 Kael'thas screens up :p |
| 23:37.37 | sbu | if all you holy spells are locked + cooldown ready again... |
| 23:37.46 | sbu | 2s nothing... |
| 23:37.48 | Funkeh` | sbu: works for me |
| 23:38.15 | trh | http://kqe.de/pruell/daylight-warming.kqe.jpg |
| 23:38.17 | trh | lol :) |
| 23:39.08 | trh | ckknight: could be used for a global warming continued episode ;) |
| 23:39.11 | nymbia | hyperChipmunk: which layout is that? |
| 23:39.16 | hyperChipmunk | Bibi: hey wow, could you maybe get some more jpeg compression artifacts in there? |
| 23:39.19 | hyperChipmunk | default |
| 23:39.24 | nymbia | ok |
| 23:39.25 | Bibi | hyperChipmunk : not my screenshots |
| 23:39.28 | Bibi | and yeah, the compression sucks :/ |
| 23:39.30 | hyperChipmunk | i can almost see the names! |
| 23:40.56 | sbu | trh: kqe is nice :o |
| 23:42.12 | Funkeh` | ckknight: that help? :P its hard to tell peopel to losoe wsg so you can get out fast and get an error |
| 23:42.19 | Funkeh` | loose* |
| 23:43.02 | snirks | ckknight: seems stable |
| 23:43.11 | ckknight | Funkeh`: not really |
| 23:43.13 | ckknight | Funkeh`: did you update? |
| 23:43.45 | snirks | i updated and no bug so far |
| 23:44.37 | Funkeh` | ckknight: its updated apart from the commit you jsut made |
| 23:44.40 | Funkeh` | ckknight: why? |
| 23:45.57 | Kirkburn|afk | chuckg, you use Standalones? |
| 23:46.09 | chuckg | No. |
| 23:46.22 | Kirkburn|afk | Then update EVERY Ace addon |
| 23:46.23 | chuckg | I had to revert to an older AceEvent, it was blowing up my FuBar. |
| 23:46.31 | NeoTron | hrm never heard of the guild Death Wish before |
| 23:46.41 | chuckg | Wasn't the intent of embedding that you didn't need to do that anymore? |
| 23:46.45 | Kirkburn|afk | You need to make sure every addon of your has the latest AceEvents |
| 23:46.54 | Kirkburn|afk | Well it works ... most of the time :P |
| 23:47.11 | CIA-31 | 03ckknight * r33845 10PitBull/PitBull.lua: PitBull - don't do fancy stuff when moving around when dragging in combat |
| 23:47.56 | ckknight | Funkeh`: that shouldn't cause those errors anymore... |
| 23:48.11 | Kirkburn|afk | Since updating CF on the UI sites, lots of people's UIs have gone to shite, so you're not alone (plus there's a thread on the Ace forums). Such is life, just update, update update |
| 23:48.18 | Kirkburn|afk | You onyl need to do them once at leat |
| 23:48.25 | Kirkburn|afk | *only, least |
| 23:48.51 | CIA-31 | 03nymbia * r33846 10PitBull/Spark/Spark.lua: |
| 23:48.51 | CIA-31 | PitBull_Spark: |
| 23:48.51 | CIA-31 | - Make sure the frame level's higher than that of the mana bar. |
| 23:48.52 | CIA-31 | - evl: ten pixels is too much. Switched to one for now, screenshot if it's significantly exceeding the mana bar's dimensions. |
| 23:48.55 | nymbia | hyperChipmunk: try that |
| 23:49.05 | Kirkburn|afk | Progress, separating the wheat from the chaff, all that jazz :P |
| 23:49.21 | Kirkburn|afk | Ooh, goats and sheep, that's another good one |
| 23:50.03 | Diao | isn't death wish a transfer guild from somewhere else |
| 23:50.19 | ven | Should Spark be triggered by wands? |
| 23:50.27 | Kirkburn|afk | Diao, you asked me something yesterday I think? |
| 23:50.30 | hyperChipmunk | ha, well now that's useful |
| 23:50.33 | Kirkburn|afk | Or did I promise you something? |
| 23:50.54 | Kirkburn|afk | I think you left before I said I updated ClearFont with whatever it was |
| 23:50.58 | nymbia | ven: not really, but i havent added mana checking yet |
| 23:51.10 | Diao | oh |
| 23:51.22 | hyperChipmunk | yea, i noticed it happened with mounting |
| 23:51.24 | nymbia | not sure if i will, depending on if the events fire in a nice consistent order or not |
| 23:51.26 | Diao | it was about the chat edit frame fontsize being different from the actual chat box font |
| 23:51.29 | Diao | it's fixed now |
| 23:51.30 | hyperChipmunk | and call pet |
| 23:51.38 | Kirkburn|afk | Diao, ah yeah, I fixed that :P |
| 23:51.42 | nymbia | yeah, all spellcasts at the moment ;) |
| 23:51.55 | Kirkburn|afk | I fiddled with it for no reason |
| 23:51.58 | Gngsk | what's spark? |
| 23:52.12 | sbu | ah spark working with mana now :o |
| 23:52.13 | abyssichate | I am wondering the same |
| 23:52.16 | sbu | thx nymbia ;o |
| 23:52.17 | ckknight | Gngsk: 5-second mana timer thing |
| 23:52.20 | abyssichate | some sort of energy ticker for rogues? |
| 23:52.22 | Gngsk | ahh |
| 23:52.23 | abyssichate | oh |
| 23:52.24 | Gngsk | that's what I thought |
| 23:52.27 | Kirkburn|afk | eeeh |
| 23:52.29 | nymbia | also energy |
| 23:52.39 | nymbia | for rogues and cat fite droods |
| 23:52.41 | Kirkburn|afk | Sounds funky |
| 23:52.46 | snirks | wtb accessibility switch that zooms every addon 200% |
| 23:52.51 | snirks | for when im tired and cannot see |
| 23:53.16 | Kirkburn|afk | It's called ClearFont ;) |
| 23:53.34 | trh | or create a macro setting uiscale ;) |
| 23:53.45 | Kirkburn|afk | Sssh, don't tell him that :( |
| 23:53.51 | abyssichate | stop playing when you are tired :( |
| 23:54.30 | Kirkburn|afk | Sleep? It's raid or die, man! Though I guess it could be raid /and/ die too ... |
| 23:54.43 | snirks | have raided today |
| 23:54.54 | snirks | i got loot |
| 23:55.01 | Kirkburn|afk | Well done! |
| 23:55.17 | snirks | tank neck frmo fathomlord |
| 23:55.36 | Kirkburn|afk | I'm not being sarcastic, too :P I've not ever raided |
| 23:55.47 | Kirkburn|afk | Is that SSC? |
| 23:55.50 | shieldb | yeah |
| 23:55.56 | shieldb | Fathom-Lord Karathress |
| 23:56.25 | shieldb | arguably the easiest boss of the six in SSC |
| 23:56.40 | snirks | without doubt |
| 23:56.53 | abyssichate | hydross's been the most annoying so far |
| 23:56.59 | snirks | morogrim being a lotto fister |
| 23:57.21 | Hjalte | And my guild is having problems with Hydross. Meh. Always some mage or shadow priest grabbing aggro and then hey! Is that 12 adds or am i just so dead? |
| 23:57.23 | shieldb | morogrim isn't that bad, but when all four graves are MT healers, sad times |
| 23:57.51 | snirks | i know he can be a l2p issue but we always seem to be owned by morogrim >& |
| 23:57.52 | snirks | :/ |
| 23:58.10 | shieldb | lurker is pretty easy as long as you get the execution down right |
| 23:58.26 | shieldb | it's too bad they're making him a lot more of a headache next patch :| |
| 23:58.51 | shieldb | just make sure you never ever do lurker before you do morogrim heh |
| 23:59.12 | shieldb | if you're going to boil the water, anyways |
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