| 00:00.13 | shieldb | Hjalte, honestly I'd say do hydross last or second to last before vashj |
| 00:00.26 | snirks | just dont do hydross |
| 00:00.36 | snirks | he's not worth it at all |
| 00:00.37 | shieldb | you have to clear him if you want to do vashj |
| 00:00.52 | snirks | ah for clearing ofc |
| 00:00.56 | snirks | but learning ssc |
| 00:01.08 | Hjalte | I really doubt i can get my guild leaders to just skip him. We've been on him for a week now. |
| 00:01.31 | shieldb | waterwalk to morogrim, lurker, and karatrhess and collect some epics imo :) |
| 00:01.38 | snirks | yeah |
| 00:01.47 | *** join/#wowace kenlyric (n=kenlyric@adsl-75-51-225-213.dsl.ipltin.sbcglobal.net) |
| 00:02.10 | snirks | ckknight: just left AB, no crash |
| 00:02.18 | ckknight | hooray |
| 00:02.22 | ckknight | well, it might be fixed |
| 00:02.25 | snirks | ack :( |
| 00:02.26 | snirks | no |
| 00:02.27 | ckknight | and if so, that's a good thing |
| 00:02.29 | snirks | left another raid |
| 00:02.30 | ckknight | no? |
| 00:02.32 | ckknight | :-( |
| 00:02.34 | snirks | i was in a raid, and i was in the BG raid |
| 00:02.38 | snirks | left BG, no crash |
| 00:02.41 | snirks | left real raid, crash |
| 00:02.59 | snirks | #132 |
| 00:03.00 | ckknight | hrm |
| 00:03.26 | ckknight | wanna do the module test? |
| 00:03.43 | snirks | nah i wouldnt be able to finish it today since its 2 am |
| 00:03.51 | ckknight | ah. |
| 00:03.53 | ckknight | okay |
| 00:06.19 | abyssichate | 158.58 <shieldb> it's too bad they're making him a lot more of a headache next patch :| |
| 00:06.27 | abyssichate | In what way are they buffing him? I couldn't find anything in the patch notes |
| 00:09.57 | vodrin | can't nature zerg him |
| 00:10.04 | vodrin | 500% max now on the debuffs |
| 00:10.22 | vodrin | aka can't cheat |
| 00:10.37 | snirks | he was talking about lurker tho |
| 00:10.41 | snirks | not hydross |
| 00:10.47 | vodrin | i failed then |
| 00:11.06 | snirks | but yeh |
| 00:11.13 | snirks | tanking hydross is scary at 250% |
| 00:11.17 | snirks | so 500% wont be doable |
| 00:17.17 | abyssichate | I thought you meant the lurker below |
| 00:18.21 | Cyrez | (Prat + Sounds) + SpamSentry = Win |
| 00:18.28 | CIA-31 | 03kaelten * r33847 10cgProfiler/ (cgProfiler.toc profile/profile.lua raids/raids.lua): |
| 00:18.28 | CIA-31 | cgProfiler - |
| 00:18.28 | CIA-31 | -Some last min cleanup |
| 00:19.48 | CIA-31 | 03kaelten * r33848 10cgProfiler/raids/raids.lua: |
| 00:19.48 | CIA-31 | cgProfiler - |
| 00:19.48 | CIA-31 | -one more tweak |
| 00:20.05 | ckknight | damn, kaelten's not even on |
| 00:21.22 | nymbia | yeah hes done that a few times |
| 00:22.36 | Funkeh` | ckknight: i dunno why i get these errors with buggrabber and why they are diferent without, but anyway |
| 00:22.42 | Funkeh` | ckknight: http://ace.pastey.net/17821 |
| 00:23.34 | Funkeh` | those are the errors i got when i left the BG |
| 00:23.47 | Funkeh` | no mention of pitbull :s |
| 00:23.47 | ckknight | can't help you with those |
| 00:24.04 | nymbia | you gots taint! |
| 00:24.05 | Funkeh` | ckknight: those are the pitbull errors |
| 00:24.26 | ckknight | seeing as it doesn't say PitBull anywhere, I disagree |
| 00:24.50 | Funkeh` | ckknight: they are the only errors i get, and at the exact same time as i would get the pitbull ones |
| 00:24.57 | Funkeh` | ckknight: doubt its a coincidence 3 times now |
| 00:25.25 | ckknight | I call coincidence |
| 00:25.30 | ckknight | nothing PitBull does would do that |
| 00:25.35 | ckknight | looks more like a Jostle issue |
| 00:25.39 | ckknight | but that does stuff OOC |
| 00:25.44 | Funkeh` | i am ooc |
| 00:25.56 | Funkeh` | ive left the battleground, im ooc and bang |
| 00:26.13 | nymbia | UIParent_ManageFramePositions is tainted |
| 00:26.36 | ckknight | but by what? |
| 00:26.57 | nymbia | hasnt happened for me, so i'm guessing not pitbull |
| 00:27.27 | ckknight | doing /print issecure("UIParent_ManageFramePositions") gives nil for me |
| 00:27.30 | ckknight | which is disconcerting |
| 00:28.04 | nymbia | hm |
| 00:28.18 | Thrae | ckknight: http://www.wowwiki.com/API_issecure <-- takes no arguments |
| 00:28.31 | Thrae | Unless you're talking about 2.1x |
| 00:28.37 | ckknight | ah. |
| 00:28.41 | ckknight | nevermind, then |
| 00:28.46 | ckknight | issecurevariable("UIParent_ManageFramePositions") gives 1 |
| 00:28.55 | ckknight | Funkeh`: /print issecurevariable("UIParent_ManageFramePositions") |
| 00:29.15 | nymbia | mine's secure but i havent been in combat |
| 00:29.18 | nymbia | this session |
| 00:29.33 | ckknight | I've MH'd Stockades |
| 00:29.35 | ckknight | it's secure. |
| 00:29.45 | ckknight | I have PitBull and FuBar (thus consequentally Jostle) running |
| 00:30.27 | ravagernl | ckknight, Can I ask why the background for the castingbar was reoved when i am not casting? |
| 00:30.40 | ckknight | no idea, I didn't write it |
| 00:31.04 | Funkeh` | ckknight: returns 1 |
| 00:31.20 | Funkeh` | ckknight: but i have rl'd to get the erros from buggrabber |
| 00:31.29 | Funkeh` | ckknight: want me to reproduce and print again? |
| 00:31.30 | ravagernl | can you ask the one who did write it to put an option it for it |
| 00:31.46 | ravagernl | or, who did write it, so i can ask myself? |
| 00:31.55 | ckknight | Funkeh`: honestly, I dunno. It's not PitBull's issue and I can't find an issue with FuBar causing it |
| 00:33.08 | Funkeh` | ckknight: but its there, so it needs to be resolved |
| 00:33.22 | ckknight | no it's not |
| 00:33.26 | ravagernl | percent modifier is broken too by the way |
| 00:33.32 | ckknight | also untrue |
| 00:33.44 | ckknight | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:33.47 | ckknight | lemme test |
| 00:33.55 | Funkeh` | ckknight: i reproduced it, and it returns 1 |
| 00:34.06 | ckknight | it's not PitBull's fault |
| 00:34.24 | Funkeh` | same AceLibrary errors |
| 00:34.37 | Funkeh` | i know that ckknight, but that doesn't mean it should be ignored |
| 00:34.49 | ckknight | meh, I have no problem ignoring it if I can't figure out the cause. |
| 00:35.15 | Funkeh` | ckknight: considering it happens to 50% of pitbull users its a pretty shit view on it |
| 00:35.15 | abyssichate | http://www.wowinsider.com/media/2006/12/sebspeakerwg2.jpg - old but priceless, so effective when you want to have a laugh :s |
| 00:35.20 | Funkeh` | back to aguf then |
| 00:36.10 | ckknight | Funkeh`: it's a completely separate issue, you know |
| 00:36.44 | Funkeh` | ckknight: but aguf works fine for me, so pitbull uses something aguf doesn't, if your not willing to fix it, it won't get fixed, and i don't want to crash forever |
| 00:37.18 | ckknight | the crash is separate from the errors you posted |
| 00:37.28 | Funkeh` | ckknight: yet only happens wiht pitbull installed |
| 00:37.52 | ckknight | then tell me how to reproduce it easily |
| 00:38.03 | CIA-31 | 03trh * r33849 10VanasKoS/modules/ChatNotifier.lua: VanasKoS: bugfix to make setting colors possible.. stupid typos. |
| 00:38.48 | Funkeh` | ckknight: i did, its not my fault you are unwilling to do the steps |
| 00:39.10 | ckknight | I'm not going to install oRA for you |
| 00:39.21 | ckknight | I can't get a raid together that fast |
| 00:39.32 | ckknight | or at all |
| 00:39.47 | *** join/#wowace syeren (i=syeren@cpc3-oldh5-0-0-cust762.manc.cable.ntl.com) |
| 00:39.51 | ckknight | and when I do run a BG or something to try to test it, it still doesn't give me issues |
| 00:39.55 | ckknight | so I'm in a bind |
| 00:40.28 | Funkeh` | well like you said it probably a problem with another addon, yet it only happens with pitbul installed, i can give you my addonlist and you can try, theres not much else i can do |
| 00:40.53 | shieldb | abyssichate, they're "buffing" lurker in the patch in that the coilfang frenzies do more damage |
| 00:40.56 | *** join/#wowace Bam_DK (n=pervel@0x573c050d.boanqu2.broadband.tele.dk) |
| 00:41.04 | syeren | Only happens when I join / leave a raid now, and nowhere near as much as before. |
| 00:41.06 | shieldb | so as it is right now, you can waterwalk to lurker, clear absolutely no trash, and kill him |
| 00:41.42 | shieldb | or you can choose to clear all the trash on the platforms around him and boil the water, which takes quite a bit of time |
| 00:41.51 | Funkeh` | ckknight: since its happening to so many people, its msot likely a popular addon/library |
| 00:41.56 | shieldb | after the patch the frenzies do a lot more damage, but the boiling water does less |
| 00:42.14 | *** join/#wowace chutwig (n=edmundrh@ool-44c58c53.dyn.optonline.net) |
| 00:42.19 | shieldb | so you're pretty much going to have to clear all the trash around lurker |
| 00:43.21 | Bam_DK | evening :) |
| 00:43.55 | shieldb | so while technically lurker is getting easier (water does less damage) it's more of a headache because now you need to clear a bunch of trash |
| 00:44.05 | ravagernl | Good night, going to bed |
| 00:44.37 | abyssichate | I see |
| 00:44.47 | abyssichate | we usually clear the trash and kill him that way |
| 00:45.16 | shieldb | you save a ton of time by not doing any trash |
| 00:45.28 | shieldb | but they're removing that option |
| 00:45.47 | abyssichate | yeah, you'll then be forced to clear the platforms |
| 00:46.02 | Gngsk | so, why would rebooting my computer fix a problem with my castingbars lagging? |
| 00:46.06 | shieldb | right now it's a tradeoff between known damage during the encounter (boiling water) for a significant trash clear vs. unknown damage (frenzies going after people) with no trash clear |
| 00:46.15 | chutwig | Gngsk: just clears out the cruft |
| 00:46.29 | Gngsk | I was so annoyed with it |
| 00:46.36 | Gngsk | couldn't figure out what the problem was, reboot and it's gone |
| 00:48.54 | CIA-31 | 03kaelten * r33850 10cgProfiler/profile/profile.lua: |
| 00:48.54 | CIA-31 | cgProfiler - |
| 00:48.54 | CIA-31 | - Changed N/A to blank |
| 00:51.07 | CIA-31 | 03ckknight * r33851 10Ace2/AceEvent-2.0/AceEvent-2.0.lua: |
| 00:51.07 | CIA-31 | .AceEvent-2.0 - properly revert to before the breakage started occurring. |
| 00:51.08 | CIA-31 | - note: in WoW 2.1, still use the new version |
| 00:51.14 | ckknight | maybe that should fix things |
| 00:51.16 | ckknight | or break things more |
| 00:51.19 | ckknight | one of those |
| 00:51.25 | nymbia | i like the second option |
| 00:51.27 | chutwig | breaking things is fun |
| 00:53.08 | CIA-31 | 03ckknight * r33852 10Ace2/AceEvent-2.0/AceEvent-2.0.lua: .AceEvent-2.0 - make sure to register with all events |
| 00:53.38 | kergoth | hehe, i like penny arcade's new shirt |
| 00:53.42 | kergoth | "green is the new purple" |
| 00:54.22 | hyperChipmunk | yea i saw that =) |
| 00:55.37 | NightHawkTheSane | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:55.47 | kebinusan | heh |
| 00:55.52 | kebinusan | he's alot of fun on heroic |
| 00:56.32 | kebinusan | NightHawkTheSane: thats why I dont pug stuff |
| 00:56.42 | NightHawkTheSane | I wish I had much of a choice. >< |
| 00:57.11 | *** join/#wowace art3mis (n=art3mis@ool-18b9f13e.dyn.optonline.net) |
| 00:57.28 | trh | pugs suck :) |
| 00:57.53 | Gngsk | not always |
| 00:58.06 | trh | s/gs su/gs usually su/ |
| 00:58.22 | trh | Gngsk: agree? ;) |
| 00:58.24 | *** join/#wowace break19 (n=break19@adsl-065-013-119-154.sip.mob.bellsouth.net) |
| 00:58.27 | Gngsk | sure |
| 00:58.29 | Gngsk | I can agree with that |
| 00:59.13 | *** join/#wowace ggilbert (n=ggilbert@tinman.treke.net) |
| 01:05.33 | shieldb | ckknight, any idea why sometimes [raidgroup:paren] [name] would display something like "(8) Nameofperson..................................................................." ? |
| 01:05.50 | ckknight | with all the dots? |
| 01:05.52 | ckknight | no idea |
| 01:05.54 | shieldb | yeah |
| 01:05.57 | shieldb | it displays their full name |
| 01:06.03 | shieldb | then fills up the rest of the frame with dots |
| 01:06.19 | ckknight | no idea |
| 01:08.35 | *** join/#wowace Kilroo (n=Jarentha@cpe-071-076-173-175.triad.res.rr.com) |
| 01:10.30 | CIA-31 | 03ckknight * r33853 10DogTag-1.0/DogTag-1.0/DogTag-1.0.lua: DogTag-1.0 - typo ~= should be ==. Should fix the percent modifier. |
| 01:12.52 | abyssichate | Gah, I seriously love Aloft |
| 01:13.08 | abyssichate | I am now waiting for violation to fully replace swstats and then I'll be a happy boi! |
| 01:13.52 | xlvii | eh? |
| 01:14.12 | *** join/#wowace RaydenUni (i=bozartmp@bozartmp.student.rose-hulman.edu) |
| 01:17.43 | hyperChipmunk | wtf, i just sent someone a /tell and got this massive response from deadly boss mods that the person is busy fighting such-and-such a boss, who's at this % and this many people are alive in the raid, and that i will be informed when it's over and can type 'status' if i want to know how they're doing |
| 01:18.12 | hyperChipmunk | and when it ended, it spammed me another message about how they won and how long it took them |
| 01:18.20 | hyperChipmunk | like i really freaking care =P |
| 01:18.46 | rubik | haha |
| 01:18.56 | fleetfoot | even more scary is if that is the default setting, and you have to turn it off instead of the other way around |
| 01:18.57 | rubik | use spamsentry on them |
| 01:24.20 | hyperChipmunk | has barfader been integrated in pitbull yet? |
| 01:26.13 | ckknight | no |
| 01:26.26 | xlvii | can anyone tell me what 'violation' is? |
| 01:26.30 | xlvii | i can't find it on the wowace wiki |
| 01:27.56 | rubik | search wowace forums.. there is a thread about it |
| 01:28.00 | rubik | it shows dps/hps/etc. |
| 01:36.09 | CIA-31 | 03rabbit * r33854 10Babble-2.2/Babble-Boss-2.2/Babble-Boss-2.2.lua: .Babble-Boss-2.2: Added Kael'Thas Sunstriders advisors. |
| 01:36.37 | ven | Sometimes my tablets are kinda broken.. I can't click on the first 2-3 items on the tablet. I suspect QuestsFu to cause this. It seems not to happen when QuestsFu isn't loaded |
| 01:36.49 | abyssichate | did you check the legendary axe in tK? |
| 01:36.55 | chutwig | legendary raaaaaar |
| 01:37.13 | kergoth | nymbia: you should :Hide() the spark when disabling it, mine's stuck :) |
| 01:37.35 | chutwig | i imagine somebody has asked this already but what's with the new version numbers on svn that have a #####.## form? |
| 01:37.37 | Funkeh` | haha nymbia you FAIL |
| 01:37.54 | Diao | library only updates I believe? |
| 01:38.07 | break19 | does anyone know how to use poisonfu? it claims to assist with APPLYING poisons, but all I've managed to get it to do is tell me what i've already applied... |
| 01:38.10 | Funkeh` | .$$ are library updates |
| 01:38.26 | chutwig | so the recommended thing to do now is use !!!StandaloneLibraries, then update without externals? |
| 01:38.31 | Funkeh` | so .1 means the zip was regenerated with a new copy of a library that specific addon needs |
| 01:38.42 | nymbia | kergoth: it should, any errors? |
| 01:39.30 | Funkeh` | ruin the fun then nymbia! |
| 01:39.30 | nymbia | ;) |
| 01:39.36 | Funkeh` | chtuwig, its the best way to avoid errors from rogue versions of old libraries, and will speed up your loading time a little |
| 01:39.47 | Funkeh` | tab complete sucks |
| 01:39.53 | chutwig | wutchig |
| 01:39.56 | Funkeh` | chutwig: |
| 01:40.01 | chutwig | that sounds racist |
| 01:40.11 | vhaarr | wutwut |
| 01:40.21 | Funkeh` | vhaarr laid an egg! |
| 01:40.33 | vhaarr | *hhnnnngg* |
| 01:40.36 | Funkeh` | :p |
| 01:40.58 | chutwig | pop |
| 01:45.39 | hyperChipmunk | .... |
| 01:46.09 | hyperChipmunk | you better not be saying that in the context of ace, or i'll rip your face off |
| 01:47.07 | hyperChipmunk | acetab is pretty much the only reason they allow my lazy, incompetent butt around here |
| 01:47.35 | *** join/#wowace Dior (n=theone@83.95.169.66) |
| 01:47.36 | hyperChipmunk | it's my crowning (read: only) achievement! >8p |
| 01:48.20 | CIA-31 | 03ckknight * r33855 10PitBull/CastBar/CastBar.lua: PitBull-CastBar - only update if .castBar exists |
| 01:49.05 | break19 | hmm.. its all hCs fault? |
| 01:49.29 | CIA-31 | 03ckknight * r33856 10PitBull/PitBull.lua: PitBull - add more checks to opt-out early if a unit is boned. |
| 01:49.38 | FrostByghte | woo, I left AV and pitbull crashed, then WoW itself crashed |
| 01:49.59 | ckknight | how did PitBull crash? |
| 01:50.18 | FrostByghte | I just left AV, can I bring up those messages again when I restart the client? |
| 01:52.25 | *** join/#wowace Gngsk (n=gngsk@c-69-138-213-251.hsd1.md.comcast.net) |
| 01:53.59 | CIA-31 | 03ckknight * r33857 10PitBull/PitBull.lua: PitBull - instead of calling module :On* methods directly, do it through a pcall. |
| 01:54.12 | ckknight | FrostByghte: honestly, don't think so |
| 01:54.16 | ckknight | update first, though |
| 01:56.22 | Dior | anyone here that can explain how "RapidCast" works |
| 01:56.47 | syeren | ckknight, apparantly sparks gets reset when you Wand. |
| 01:56.52 | syeren | I don't know if you fixed it already. |
| 01:57.20 | ckknight | redirect to nymbia |
| 01:57.30 | syeren | ckknight, must have been bad these past two days. |
| 01:57.38 | syeren | You've created a monster! |
| 01:57.46 | syeren | Which is still the best unit frames around :) |
| 01:59.28 | Funkeh` | nymbia: |
| 01:59.41 | Funkeh` | im sure 5sec starts from when a channeled spell is cast, not finished |
| 01:59.47 | *** join/#wowace Cryect (n=fefsd@pool-68-162-148-242.pitt.east.verizon.net) |
| 02:00.04 | *** join/#wowace Kilroo (n=Jarentha@cpe-071-076-173-175.triad.res.rr.com) |
| 02:03.36 | nymbia | Funkeh`: but, are you out of it 5 seconds after the start of the cast, or the end? |
| 02:03.37 | Gngsk | is spark an external module? |
| 02:03.45 | *** join/#wowace Aii (n=aii@static-64-83-15-85.dsl.cavtel.net) |
| 02:03.49 | Funkeh` | 5 seconds after the start of the cast im told |
| 02:03.52 | ckknight | it's a module, but in PitBull proper |
| 02:03.56 | Gngsk | ok, I see it |
| 02:04.02 | Gngsk | it's checked but I'm not noticing it |
| 02:04.04 | Funkeh` | arcane missiles for example is 5sec and you get a tick of regen right when tis finished |
| 02:04.14 | Funkeh` | nymbia: also, using trinkets is triggering it fro some reason |
| 02:04.41 | Funkeh` | nymbia: infact, i think using anything seems to be triggering it :p |
| 02:04.51 | nymbia | mmhmm |
| 02:07.06 | hyperChipmunk | it does |
| 02:07.15 | hyperChipmunk | and yes, he knows =) |
| 02:10.13 | FrostByghte | ckknight: I updated today around uh 2pm CDT...I have swatter installed, I have a complete error history |
| 02:10.25 | FrostByghte | seems the crash was in DogTag if I'm reading this right |
| 02:12.01 | ckknight | saweet |
| 02:12.04 | ckknight | plz pastey |
| 02:12.20 | FrostByghte | Message: ...erface\AddOns\PitBull\libs\DogTag-1.0\DogTag-1.0.lua line 331: attempt to perform arithmetic on local 'value' (a boolean value) |
| 02:12.38 | Gngsk | I just got that same error |
| 02:12.42 | Gngsk | when joining a group |
| 02:12.49 | FrostByghte | I have more info available, some debug output, but it's a bit more lengthy, if you wish I could past it to you privately or email it to you |
| 02:13.28 | haste | how about using http://ace.pastey.net ? |
| 02:14.00 | *** join/#wowace Unrealii (i=NEXT96@121.129.140.61) |
| 02:14.28 | ckknight | how the hell did that end up a boolean |
| 02:14.30 | ckknight | grr |
| 02:14.34 | ckknight | yea, use ace.pastey.net |
| 02:14.47 | FrostByghte | do I select any particular language or just none? |
| 02:14.58 | ckknight | wait, how long ago did you update? |
| 02:15.02 | ckknight | I think I fixed that bug recently |
| 02:15.06 | ckknight | like within an hour |
| 02:15.08 | FrostByghte | around noon today |
| 02:15.28 | FrostByghte | okie, I'll see if another is avail |
| 02:17.22 | FrostByghte | holy hell, a lot of updates considering I just updated about 5 hours ago |
| 02:17.43 | Gngsk | update seemingly fixed that error for me |
| 02:17.54 | cladhaire | ckknight: Have you decided against giving Vika any notation in DogTag? |
| 02:18.20 | break19 | frost - get used to it. I update about 2 to 3 times a day, and still manage to have stuff to update.. |
| 02:18.59 | FrostByghte | capping and postal keep updating over and over |
| 02:19.34 | break19 | update the updater. |
| 02:19.49 | FrostByghte | 1.7 final isn't final anymore? :) |
| 02:20.44 | FrostByghte | still says 1.7 final on sourceforge |
| 02:21.22 | ckknight | cladhaire: oh yea, should do that |
| 02:21.30 | ckknight | who is Vika anyway? |
| 02:21.40 | CIA-31 | 03ckknight * r33858 10Ace2/AceEvent-2.0/AceEvent-2.0.lua: .AceEvent-2.0 - potential bugfixings. |
| 02:21.42 | cladhaire | author of WatchDog |
| 02:21.45 | *** join/#wowace Eternally777 (n=eternall@pool-72-95-4-170.hrbgpa.east.verizon.net) |
| 02:21.49 | ckknight | ah, alright |
| 02:21.50 | cladhaire | created the whole tag system for dynamic text strings :P |
| 02:22.54 | CIA-31 | 03ckknight * r33859 10DogTag-1.0/DogTag-1.0/DogTag-1.0.lua: DogTag-1.0 - add the "Inspired By" header |
| 02:23.14 | *** join/#wowace Tekkub (n=tekkub@WoWUIDev/WoWI/Featured/Dongle/Tekkub) |
| 02:23.14 | *** mode/#wowace [+o Tekkub] by ChanServ |
| 02:24.45 | FrostByghte | no matter what I do, the 1.7 final wowaceupdater continually updates Capping and Postal everytime, failing to see they are already current versions |
| 02:24.53 | FrostByghte | I even deleted the directories and reinstalled |
| 02:25.01 | break19 | *shrug* I dont use that |
| 02:25.08 | FrostByghte | oh man, it's really neat :) |
| 02:26.04 | break19 | psh, it requires windows. |
| 02:26.05 | ckknight | I need a ride home |
| 02:26.10 | break19 | cant be THAT neat. |
| 02:26.16 | ckknight | my parents decided to go on vacation |
| 02:26.21 | FrostByghte | capping seems to keep crashing on load now |
| 02:26.24 | FrostByghte | Message: ...face\AddOns\Capping\libs\Surface-1.0\Surface-1.0.lua line 54: |
| 02:26.24 | FrostByghte | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:26.27 | cladhaire | ckknight: i can be there in, 15 hours? |
| 02:26.34 | cladhaire | but i'll need to rent a car |
| 02:26.40 | ckknight | cladhaire: that's a while, I get off class in like 3 |
| 02:26.40 | break19 | it aint neat enough for me to buy a damn PC.. |
| 02:26.48 | FrostByghte | is the author of Capping in irc? |
| 02:27.08 | break19 | cladhaire: since when is there a bridge to Hawaii? lol |
| 02:27.18 | ckknight | hey, interesting news |
| 02:27.33 | ckknight | there's talks about building a tunnel between Russia and Alaska |
| 02:28.06 | break19 | great, another way for the damn rusky spies to get into the country... ;p |
| 02:29.27 | ckknight | yea, but siberia's full of natural resources ripe for our fat, American plucking |
| 02:29.29 | NightHawkTheSane | more like another way for us to get out of it. :P |
| 02:29.54 | break19 | ckknight: right.. so is alaska and the environuts wont let us touch that either.. |
| 02:30.37 | ckknight | they just care about American national whatevers. No one cares if we rape mother Russia |
| 02:31.33 | break19 | russia does. |
| 02:31.46 | *** join/#wowace freeman__ (n=freeman@pD9E477E1.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 02:31.53 | NightHawkTheSane | meh, russia'd sell the country for enough money |
| 02:32.01 | ckknight | yea, seriously |
| 02:32.05 | FrostByghte | well posted in the forums, hopefully uh TotalPackage (think that is the author) will see it |
| 02:32.06 | ckknight | not like anyone's paying attention |
| 02:32.06 | break19 | and they still got nukes, they might have misplaced just a FEW of their's, but they still have enough... |
| 02:32.27 | hyperChipmunk | heh, autoshot triggers spark |
| 02:32.50 | FrostByghte | hey ya, what is the spark thing in Pitbull? |
| 02:33.06 | break19 | tooltips are your friends. embrace them. |
| 02:33.31 | ckknight | http://www.myextralife.com/archive.php?date=2007-04-04 |
| 02:33.36 | ckknight | FrostByghte: 5-second mana timer |
| 02:33.41 | ckknight | and rogue energy ticker |
| 02:33.49 | break19 | ticktock |
| 02:34.29 | ckknight | tick your mom tock |
| 02:34.38 | FrostByghte | ah okie...I had the client shutdown |
| 02:34.56 | FrostByghte | well I reported a bug in capping! Isn't that exciting! |
| 02:35.51 | xlvii | http://uneasyexpo.com/50-best-bums/ NSFW |
| 02:35.52 | FrostByghte | guess not that exciting :) |
| 02:36.40 | ckknight | xlvii: nice |
| 02:41.01 | CIA-31 | 03ckknight * r33860 10PitBull/PitBull.lua: PitBull - don't clear frames that aren't destroyed, in a freaky attempt to save CPU power. *thumbs up* |
| 02:42.27 | Aenslaed | Is there any way to make the combo point pips bigger? |
| 02:42.31 | Aenslaed | for pitbull |
| 02:44.48 | ckknight | hack the code! |
| 02:46.52 | *** join/#wowace gerber^Cavisty (n=Jon@c-71-200-85-204.hsd1.md.comcast.net) |
| 02:52.27 | break19 | hide the coke! |
| 02:53.44 | *** join/#wowace Seerah (n=chatzill@adsl-18-219-220.mem.bellsouth.net) |
| 02:54.41 | *** join/#wowace theoddone33 (n=jimbob@pool-71-109-118-101.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net) |
| 02:59.26 | NightHawkTheSane | hack the planet! |
| 03:02.05 | CIA-31 | 03ckknight * r33861 10Ace2/AceComm-2.0/AceComm-2.0.lua: .AceComm-2.0 - apparently this was creating a bunch of extra tables needlessly. Now uses a recycling mechanism. |
| 03:07.46 | CIA-31 | 03ckknight * r33862 10FuBar_PerformanceFu/PerformanceFu.lua: FuBar_PerformanceFu - check more often, but show a CPU differential. |
| 03:08.26 | *** join/#wowace FISKER_Q (i=ballmer@85.24.17.250.generic-hostname.arrownet.dk) |
| 03:10.02 | ckknight | alright, I gotta go to class |
| 03:10.15 | *** join/#wowace Fisker- (i=ballmer@85.24.17.250.generic-hostname.arrownet.dk) |
| 03:28.17 | hyperChipmunk | got a pitbull request for the ability to change the color of the buff stack count text |
| 03:29.41 | CIA-31 | 03rabbit * r33863 10BanzaiLib/Banzai-1.1/Banzai-1.1.lua: .Banzai-1.1: Don't calculate banzai for units that are offline, dead or ghost and some other optimizations - memory usage up by ~1kib, CPU time should be down quite a bit. |
| 03:42.46 | CIA-31 | 03rabbit * r33864 10FuBar_PerformanceFu/ (FuBar_PerformanceFu.toc PerformanceFu.lua libs/): FuBar_PerformanceFu: Only update once per second if script profiling is enabled. |
| 03:52.02 | PHL-Chuck | there is still no sw_stats/damage meter alternative for ace2? |
| 03:52.11 | PHL-Chuck | cause I hate sw_stats lol |
| 03:52.18 | vhaarr | not a usable one, no |
| 03:52.25 | PHL-Chuck | darn |
| 03:53.16 | Prophh | http://www.nihilum.eu/news/49/ |
| 03:53.25 | Prophh | legendary axe in TK |
| 03:54.44 | vhaarr | jeez, could you BE any more 3 hours ago |
| 03:54.47 | vhaarr | :P |
| 04:07.43 | *** join/#wowace Roartindon (n=jtlim@ppp94-34.lns10.adl6.internode.on.net) |
| 04:09.03 | *** join/#wowace Sole (n=chatzill@203-118-186-231.bliink.ihug.co.nz) |
| 04:09.26 | Sole | hihi |
| 04:10.46 | *** join/#wowace Ani| (n=Ani@86.56.51.7) |
| 04:13.18 | break19 | is there an addon just like mountme that does the ezdismount, but NOT the item swapping? |
| 04:13.58 | vhaarr | what is "ezdismount"? |
| 04:14.02 | vhaarr | ~ezdismount |
| 04:14.13 | vhaarr | ~botkick |
| 04:14.19 | vhaarr | ~whalecrit purl |
| 04:14.21 | purl | ACTION crits purl with a mathematically skilled whale named Isaac for #NaN. purl dies |
| 04:14.37 | NightHawkTheSane | we could only hope |
| 04:15.22 | break19 | vhaar: auto dismounts if you have a "you are mounted" message when tryin to do somethin that requires not being mounted, also dismounts when you view the flightmap at a flightmaster, etc |
| 04:15.36 | Diao | built into wow 2.1 |
| 04:15.37 | Diao | i think |
| 04:15.47 | vhaarr | break19: WoW does all those things now, except the "your are mounted", which Diao is right about. |
| 04:16.11 | break19 | last I checked, the latest version is still 2.0.x :p |
| 04:16.29 | break19 | and I can easily nuke the addon once the patch is finally released. |
| 04:16.31 | vhaarr | seriously, I tried that in 2.1, and it annoyed me like hell |
| 04:16.34 | CIA-31 | 03damjau * r33865 10WhoDrop/ (WhoDrop.Locales.lua WhoDrop.lua WhoDrop.toc WhoDropData.lua): WhoDrop - add original instance drop data |
| 04:16.56 | *** join/#wowace |MoX|Padwa| (n=abrakada@mail.emural.ru) |
| 04:19.46 | kergoth | whodrop? |
| 04:21.05 | break19 | if it adds a tooltip to bop items, on what boss drops it, that'd be cool. |
| 04:21.33 | *** join/#wowace art3mis (n=art3mis@ool-18b9f13e.dyn.optonline.net) |
| 04:21.57 | Sole | can anyone top this name for my orc warrior? Buttbomb |
| 04:22.27 | vhaarr | break19: Kind of like Mendeleev, you mean? |
| 04:23.47 | theoddone33 | Sole: I think my main tops that name |
| 04:24.23 | theoddone33 | http://ctprofiles.net/666222 |
| 04:24.55 | *** join/#wowace Roartindon (n=jtlim@ppp94-34.lns10.adl6.internode.on.net) |
| 04:28.42 | CIA-31 | 03rabbit * r33866 10FuBar_PerformanceFu/PerformanceFu.lua: |
| 04:28.42 | CIA-31 | FuBar_PerformanceFu: |
| 04:28.42 | CIA-31 | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:28.42 | CIA-31 | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:28.42 | CIA-31 | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:28.43 | CIA-31 | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:29.11 | vhaarr | some color freak fix the PerfFu colors please |
| 04:31.08 | art3mis | what level are those deadwood furbies in lower feleras |
| 04:31.21 | Roartindon | 42-ish? |
| 04:31.28 | art3mis | really? |
| 04:31.33 | Sole | lol@furbies |
| 04:31.35 | art3mis | i swore they were higher |
| 04:31.46 | Roartindon | hmmm.. been such a long time since I've been there |
| 04:31.49 | art3mis | yeah |
| 04:31.49 | Roartindon | thott it? :) |
| 04:31.56 | art3mis | i could do that i spose ;) |
| 04:32.03 | art3mis | oh hey we dropped gruul last night too |
| 04:32.10 | Roartindon | grats :) |
| 04:32.11 | art3mis | 2nd night attempts 5th attack |
| 04:32.26 | art3mis | how you guys doing? |
| 04:32.42 | Roartindon | we downed gruul about 6 weeks ago |
| 04:32.49 | Roartindon | The day after they nerfed him, we had our first attempts |
| 04:32.55 | Roartindon | And got him 3rd pull |
| 04:32.59 | art3mis | ncie hows serpentshrine |
| 04:33.13 | art3mis | or serpent shire or whatever its called ;P |
| 04:33.16 | Roartindon | still haven't been in, getting the lazy fuckers to kill nightbane.... |
| 04:33.32 | art3mis | oh yeah we've gott nightbane on farm |
| 04:33.32 | Roartindon | As a guild, we've killed nightbane about 14 times |
| 04:33.42 | art3mis | when he doesnt bug out that is |
| 04:33.54 | Roartindon | And we still have a ton of people that haven't killed him for whatever reason |
| 04:33.59 | art3mis | heh |
| 04:34.07 | art3mis | did yu guys ever farm clear naxx? |
| 04:34.11 | Roartindon | nope |
| 04:34.12 | art3mis | i think i left before that |
| 04:34.36 | Roartindon | We had real attendance issues in the final months, as people saw TBC stuff and decided.. fuck it |
| 04:34.45 | art3mis | still good practice |
| 04:34.58 | art3mis | although kara is more fun |
| 04:35.01 | Roartindon | not fun to practise thaddius with ppickups |
| 04:35.06 | art3mis | heh |
| 04:35.34 | Roartindon | kara is already pretty boring, we cleared it a while ago, and have had 3 groups kill prince... and people still fuck up aran |
| 04:36.19 | art3mis | bt should be great fun too |
| 04:36.30 | Roartindon | I'm guessing bt will be like BWL |
| 04:36.34 | art3mis | 2.1 seems to be oddles of fun |
| 04:36.45 | art3mis | yeah they did do a nice job on bwl though |
| 04:36.52 | Roartindon | If you haven't geared up from SSC/The Eye, I'm guessing BT will be out of bounds |
| 04:36.55 | art3mis | drastically changed the way instances behaved |
| 04:37.01 | *** join/#wowace Adys (n=Miranda@APoitiers-256-1-63-232.w90-16.abo.wanadoo.fr) |
| 04:37.46 | art3mis | hows tba doing |
| 04:38.20 | Roartindon | tba is long gnoe |
| 04:38.28 | art3mis | what did they turn into |
| 04:38.31 | *** join/#wowace Pmang (n=ZNT_A@222.113.12.68) |
| 04:38.34 | art3mis | havent talked to aza in a long time |
| 04:38.58 | Roartindon | dont' think there was even a core of tba that formed a new guild, they all just went off in their own directions |
| 04:45.11 | *** join/#wowace art3mis (n=art3mis@ool-18b9f13e.dyn.optonline.net) |
| 04:56.19 | *** part/#wowace Eternally777 (n=eternall@pool-72-95-4-170.hrbgpa.east.verizon.net) |
| 04:58.29 | Guillotine | is there an easy way to move a frame under the cursor? I tried: |
| 04:58.36 | Guillotine | MinimapCluster:SetPoint("TOP","UIParent","BOTTOMLEFT",cursorx,cursory) |
| 04:58.43 | Guillotine | but, depending on the scale of the frame, the minimap is always to the bottom left of the cursor |
| 04:58.49 | Guillotine | more so with smaller scales |
| 05:04.08 | CIA-31 | 03nevcairiel * r33867 10sRaidFrames/sRaidFrames.toc: sRaidFrames: added OptDep on SharedMedia |
| 05:10.19 | *** join/#wowace Shadowed (n=outlaw@12.157.177.162) |
| 05:11.54 | *** join/#wowace Azurewrath (i=Azurewra@i577BD15E.versanet.de) |
| 05:12.41 | CIA-31 | 03rabbit * r33868 10FuBar_PerformanceFu/ (PerformanceFu.lua PerformanceFuLocale-enUS.lua): FuBar_PerformanceFu: Added options for the tooltip display. Note to localizers: Get busy. |
| 05:24.06 | Roartindon | Guillotine: Check TinyTip's anchor to cursor code? |
| 05:24.25 | Guillotine | hmm. thats a good idea |
| 05:24.31 | Roartindon | It accounts for scale, etc. |
| 05:24.47 | Roartindon | line 115+ in TinyTipAnchor.lua |
| 05:29.24 | CIA-31 | 03roartindon * r33869 10Aloft/ (Aloft.lua AloftTag.lua AloftTags.rtf): |
| 05:29.24 | CIA-31 | Aloft |
| 05:29.24 | CIA-31 | - AloftTag internally can substitute strings to make cleaner definitions |
| 05:29.24 | CIA-31 | - Added color, colorIf, hexColorIf, rgb, rgbIf tags |
| 05:29.24 | CIA-31 | - Moved AloftDebug into Aloft:Debug to avoid global namespace pollution |
| 05:30.42 | *** join/#wowace Vorda (n=Vorda@kotnet-148.kulnet.kuleuven.be) |
| 05:31.38 | art3mis | neltharion became deathwing right? |
| 05:32.04 | Vorda | Hmm, anyone has any idea why Pitbull (I think its pitbull) is crashing my WoW sometimes? (usually when I join/leave a party) another person experiencing this problem (and which makes me think its pitbull): http://elitistjerks.com/showpost.php?p=339351&postcount=99 |
| 05:32.21 | Vorda | art3mis: yes |
| 05:33.14 | shieldb | zomg |
| 05:33.28 | shieldb | pitbull didn't crash on an radisband or invites tonight |
| 05:33.59 | Vorda | Is that "zomg" related to the fact that it did crash for me, or that it didnt for you? :) |
| 05:34.28 | abyssichate | shieldb, did you ever have attempts on Leo? |
| 05:34.37 | shieldb | not yet, no |
| 05:34.57 | abyssichate | I wonder if the SL warlock is really needed |
| 05:35.41 | shieldb | It didn't crash for me, it's been bombing out all over the place other nights this week |
| 05:36.14 | Vorda | When did you last update? |
| 05:36.17 | *** join/#wowace ckknight (n=ckknight@rrcs-74-62-251-185.west.biz.rr.com) |
| 05:36.32 | *** mode/#wowace [+o ckknight] by ChanServ |
| 05:36.40 | ckknight | hey all |
| 05:36.43 | ckknight | how's it going? |
| 05:36.46 | Vorda | Anyway, I didnt update yet today, might give it a shot |
| 05:36.52 | Vorda | hey ckknight |
| 05:37.25 | CIA-31 | 03damjau * r33870 10WhoDrop/ (WhoDrop.lua WhoDrop.toc): WhoDrop - fix DressUp func |
| 05:42.23 | CIA-31 | 03damjau * r33871 10Waterfall-1.0/Waterfall-1.0/Waterfall-1.0.lua: Waterfall-1.0: add button link tooltip function for WhoDrop |
| 05:43.13 | *** join/#wowace WobWork (n=WobWork@202-129-81-206.perm.iinet.net.au) |
| 05:46.52 | shieldb | uhh, updated today around 6 |
| 05:47.11 | shieldb | ckknight posted an update to aceevent that was supposed to stop the crashing out, and it looks like it worked |
| 05:47.20 | shieldb | for me, anyways |
| 05:48.03 | Vorda | Yeah, just having a chat with him, the addons he changed all had updated versions available for me, so it might be fixed for me now |
| 05:48.07 | ckknight | I'm still weighing whether using bucketed events is worth it at all |
| 05:48.19 | ckknight | which may be a big issue |
| 05:48.21 | ckknight | though I'm not sure |
| 05:54.13 | CIA-31 | 03shieldb * r33872 10Incubator/ (Core.lua Incubator.toc): Incubator: Preliminary handler for Romeo & Juliette opera event properly stopping trash timers |
| 05:58.49 | CIA-31 | 03funkydude * r33873 10BigWigs/README.txt: BigWigs: added a readme to hopefully put an end to commonly asked questions. |
| 05:59.15 | Gngsk | fat chance, that |
| 05:59.22 | Vorda | hehe |
| 05:59.33 | Thrae | Why didn't "funkydude" just give a link to the web address? |
| 06:00.48 | Funkeh` | theres already a link to a web address |
| 06:00.53 | Funkeh` | does it get read? no |
| 06:01.07 | ckknight | if you yell loud enough, the trolls will listen |
| 06:01.14 | ckknight | it's lowering yourself to their level |
| 06:01.25 | Thrae | Funkeh`: If people are too lazy to go to the web address, then how do you think a README.TXT file will be read instead? :D |
| 06:01.27 | Funkeh` | actually it was a simple solution for me |
| 06:01.36 | Funkeh` | if they ask it on the forum i just say read the f readme |
| 06:05.41 | CIA-31 | 03jayrox * r33874 10FuBar_VampwatchFu/ (Core.lua FuBar_VampwatchFu.toc Localization.lua): FuBar_VampwatchFu: Overhealing stuff |
| 06:05.51 | Funkeh` | 'You can't report your own post to the moderator, that doesn't make sense!' well thats good 'cause i clicked it by accident |
| 06:06.24 | *** join/#wowace dotted (n=me@194.182.114.197) |
| 06:06.25 | pastamancer | Funkeh`: that doesn't make sense! |
| 06:06.31 | Funkeh` | ^^ |
| 06:06.41 | pastamancer | hehe |
| 06:06.44 | CIA-31 | 03damjau * r33875 10Babble-2.2/ (3 files in 3 dirs): |
| 06:06.44 | CIA-31 | Babble-2.2: |
| 06:06.44 | CIA-31 | - update koKR locals |
| 06:07.03 | pastamancer | also, reading is hard |
| 06:07.12 | pastamancer | almost as hard as looking things up on the internet |
| 06:07.19 | Funkeh` | hehe |
| 06:07.52 | pastamancer | however, nothing is as hard as Grid |
| 06:08.27 | pastamancer | I really need to find someone to work on the documentation |
| 06:08.39 | Funkeh` | oh that reminds me, i tried setting grid to do this 'show when buff is missing' nonsense, could you make it recognise fort and prayer of fort as the same buff? |
| 06:08.59 | pastamancer | hehe, there's a reason I haven't released that on wowi yet |
| 06:09.14 | *** join/#wowace `-FISKER_Q\ (n=blah2@developersdevelopersdevelopers.dk) |
| 06:09.14 | pastamancer | I just need a table of group buffs and the single-target buffs that they correspond to |
| 06:09.38 | `-FISKER_Q\ | is there an additional switch for tar i need to specify when dealing with directories? |
| 06:09.44 | `-FISKER_Q\ | tar -cvf doesn't seem to work |
| 06:10.12 | pastamancer | tar xcvf ./path/to/tar/file.tar ./dir1 ./dir2 ./etc |
| 06:10.17 | pastamancer | err, |
| 06:10.25 | pastamancer | tar cvf |
| 06:10.29 | pastamancer | no x there |
| 06:10.39 | `-FISKER_Q\ | lol wut |
| 06:10.42 | `-FISKER_Q\ | thought it was dir first :P |
| 06:10.47 | pastamancer | noooo |
| 06:10.50 | pastamancer | f takes an options |
| 06:11.00 | pastamancer | f is for file |
| 06:11.10 | `-FISKER_Q\ | thanks :P |
| 06:11.40 | pastamancer | ask me about cpio tomorrow for more fun |
| 06:11.49 | `-FISKER_Q\ | :o? |
| 06:12.13 | pastamancer | check out the man page ;) |
| 06:12.21 | Thrae | tar cvjf ./path/to/bzip2/tar/file.tar.gz ./dir1 ./dir2 ./etc |
| 06:12.31 | `-FISKER_Q\ | i'm not into bunzip |
| 06:12.51 | Thrae | bzip2 is better then gzip, as I've found |
| 06:13.03 | Funkeh` | :o |
| 06:13.07 | pastamancer | let's just say that find ./directory | cpio -idcuvmB > file.cpio is equivalent to tar cvf file.tar ./directory |
| 06:13.09 | `-FISKER_Q\ | 7zip > * :P |
| 06:13.20 | `-FISKER_Q\ | lol |
| 06:13.31 | Thrae | Well then make your tar, then 7z it ;) |
| 06:13.41 | `-FISKER_Q\ | :) |
| 06:14.15 | `-FISKER_Q\ | I so much hate this connection |
| 06:14.18 | `-FISKER_Q\ | ssh is lagging |
| 06:14.21 | `-FISKER_Q\ | i mean wtf? |
| 06:14.29 | `-FISKER_Q\ | how can that even lag :( |
| 06:14.50 | Bruners | packet loss? |
| 06:15.12 | `-FISKER_Q\ | i just think it's the amount of people |
| 06:15.20 | `-FISKER_Q\ | it's a shared line at work :( |
| 06:15.51 | NightHawkTheSane | yay for cpio!' |
| 06:16.02 | *** join/#wowace nahkiss (i=nahkiss@dsl-hkigw7-fed8dc00-135.dhcp.inet.fi) |
| 06:16.27 | pastamancer | cpio doesn't get enough love |
| 06:16.36 | pastamancer | pax is just silly though |
| 06:21.37 | NightHawkTheSane | gah, I don't play for a week, half of everything in PitBull changes, and now I have to unbork my layout. >< |
| 06:22.12 | ckknight | *thumbs up* |
| 06:22.55 | NightHawkTheSane | not that I mind, I mean I figure it's all improvements, but i'm never actually going to finish this, i dont think. :D |
| 06:25.15 | `-FISKER_Q\ | Any options added for power spark btw? |
| 06:25.30 | `-FISKER_Q\ | Somewhat hard to see imo |
| 06:25.39 | hyperChipmunk | colors |
| 06:25.42 | hyperChipmunk | set the alpha up |
| 06:25.48 | hyperChipmunk | it's only 30% default |
| 06:26.13 | `-FISKER_Q\ | ok |
| 06:26.20 | `-FISKER_Q\ | just didn't see any yesterday :P |
| 06:26.30 | hyperChipmunk | global settings->colors |
| 06:26.48 | ckknight | why is that a global setting? it only affects player |
| 06:27.08 | *** join/#wowace Mikk (n=opera@81-233-236-26-no19.tbcn.telia.com) |
| 06:28.33 | Loki|muh | what would you say is the best area for farming adamantit? terokar? |
| 06:28.55 | NightHawkTheSane | you know what pitbull needs? an xp/rep bar. |
| 06:29.05 | hyperChipmunk | it has one |
| 06:29.07 | chuckg | I'm unclear how the throttle works in ErrorMonster, if it does at all. |
| 06:29.09 | hyperChipmunk | both |
| 06:29.09 | NightHawkTheSane | it does? |
| 06:29.14 | chuckg | Can anyone give me some insight? |
| 06:29.15 | hyperChipmunk | as of a week ago |
| 06:29.36 | NightHawkTheSane | see, this is what I'm talking about. I stop playing for a weak everything fucking changes! |
| 06:29.46 | ckknight | NightHawkTheSane: yea, get with the times, man |
| 06:29.54 | ckknight | I added both an xp bar and a rep bar |
| 06:30.01 | ckknight | off by default |
| 06:30.03 | NightHawkTheSane | in that case, you're the man. |
| 06:30.04 | hyperChipmunk | maybe you should play before making comments about an in-development mod |
| 06:30.10 | ckknight | except xp bar for pet is on by default |
| 06:30.59 | chuckg | vhaarr you around? |
| 06:31.25 | NightHawkTheSane | hyperChipmunk: I'm playing right now, I just must have missed that option. :\ |
| 06:31.33 | shieldb | Loki|muh, I've had best luck in Nagrand for adamantite, but ymmv depending on how many other people have the same idea ;) |
| 06:31.56 | shieldb | nagrand has the highest count of adamantite nodes compared to all other zones for what it's worth, though |
| 06:32.22 | Silviu- | ckknight did slouken answered to your mail ? |
| 06:32.23 | Loki|muh | shieldb: probably not many is I like to farm very soon in the morning, e.g. 5:30 am |
| 06:32.33 | ckknight | Silviu-: no, he's been away for the past week or so |
| 06:32.34 | Loki|muh | s/is/as/ |
| 06:32.39 | Silviu- | :/ |
| 06:32.55 | Silviu- | And u did not figure out why it crashes right ? |
| 06:33.23 | CIA-31 | 03ckknight * r33876 10PitBull/ (4 files in 4 dirs): |
| 06:33.23 | CIA-31 | PitBull: |
| 06:33.23 | CIA-31 | Spark - don't go haywire when the player is hidden |
| 06:33.23 | CIA-31 | RaidTarget - make a message pop up to inform ckknight if frame.group is missing |
| 06:33.23 | CIA-31 | Combat - make a message pop up to inform ckknight if frame.group is missing |
| 06:33.24 | CIA-31 | Health - make the gradient saner. |
| 06:33.28 | ckknight | I have suspicions but no proof |
| 06:34.11 | hyperChipmunk | seems to be ui window open |
| 06:34.17 | hyperChipmunk | i wish it happened to me so i could see it |
| 06:34.42 | Silviu- | Let`s hope he will answer it`s a little strange to get a crash ehwn u exit a raidgrp or when u disband it ;) |
| 06:34.54 | Silviu- | when* |
| 06:36.18 | abyssichate | I still haven't understood what the spark means in my case, warlock :| |
| 06:36.55 | `-FISKER_Q\ | can i undo stuff in vi? :P |
| 06:37.06 | Roartindon | `-FISKER_Q\: press u |
| 06:37.10 | Roartindon | control-R to redo |
| 06:37.16 | Roartindon | that's in vim tho |
| 06:37.21 | Roartindon | not sure about vi anymore |
| 06:37.24 | Loki|muh | does someone know any details about that alchemie inspiration issue? |
| 06:41.15 | *** join/#wowace drin (n=drin@atwork-46.r-212.178.112.atwork.nl) |
| 06:41.35 | Funkeh` | later all |
| 06:42.21 | *** join/#wowace Bam_DK (n=pervel@0x573c050d.boanqu2.broadband.tele.dk) |
| 06:44.35 | *** join/#wowace Roartindon_ (n=jtlim@ppp94-34.lns10.adl6.internode.on.net) |
| 06:44.57 | Bam_DK | anyone awake to answer a general FuBar question? |
| 06:47.02 | ckknight | I suppose |
| 06:47.21 | Bam_DK | I'm just a bit confused about the relationship between AceConsole options and FuBar options |
| 06:47.31 | Bam_DK | if there is one |
| 06:48.45 | hyperChipmunk | aceconsole is the handler for all our options |
| 06:48.48 | Bam_DK | it seems FuBar's notion of enabling isn't quite the same as the one in AceConsole |
| 06:48.55 | *** join/#wowace dotted (n=me@194.182.114.197) |
| 06:49.38 | *** join/#wowace sunset (n=sun@ARouen-152-1-26-239.w90-22.abo.wanadoo.fr) |
| 06:50.00 | *** join/#wowace Punkie` (n=~@host86-130-2-120.range86-130.btcentralplus.com) |
| 06:50.15 | ckknight | Bam_DK: well, what do you mean? |
| 06:50.19 | ckknight | the standby thingy? |
| 06:51.15 | Bam_DK | in my first attempt I had no options specified with AceConsole... when disabling via FuBar, it did not seem to also properly disable the addon itself too |
| 06:51.34 | Bam_DK | yes standby.. is that not the same as enabling? |
| 06:52.30 | *** join/#wowace Roartindon_ (n=jtlim@ppp94-34.lns10.adl6.internode.on.net) |
| 06:53.41 | Bam_DK | basically, I disabled via FuBar... then when I did /ace2 enable MyAddon, it said that MyAddon is already enabled |
| 06:53.59 | Roartindon_ | Bam_DK: standby is different from enabled |
| 06:54.04 | Roartindon_ | I think |
| 06:54.13 | kergoth | enabled is addon enable/disable in the addons selection screen |
| 06:54.14 | Bam_DK | oh |
| 06:54.21 | kergoth | standby is enabled, but not active |
| 06:54.42 | Roartindon_ | when you unclick something on fubar, it's put on standby, not disabled |
| 06:54.59 | Bam_DK | ok.. but putting an addon on standby does mean that OnDisable gets called, right? |
| 06:55.06 | Roartindon_ | yes |
| 06:55.15 | Bam_DK | ok.. someo name confusion then hehe |
| 06:57.24 | Bam_DK | anyway, if I didn't supply options via AceConsole (could just be an empty option set), then using the Enable menu in FuBar, did not seem to register properly with AceDB |
| 06:59.22 | *** join/#wowace evl (n=fuckoff@gw.apt.no) |
| 07:00.08 | Bam_DK | well.. properly need to work through some more examples to get a grip on it :P |
| 07:04.02 | Bam_DK | is there ever any activity in the #lua room? |
| 07:05.57 | *** join/#wowace Nickenyfiken (n=najklord@83.145.59.23) |
| 07:06.49 | ckknight | yea |
| 07:07.18 | Bam_DK | can you find the designers of Lua there sometimes? |
| 07:08.17 | |Pixel|_ | I don't think they'll be around there tbh :) |
| 07:08.25 | Bam_DK | ok :) |
| 07:08.38 | Bam_DK | just wondering a bit about what direction Lua is going in the future |
| 07:08.49 | Bam_DK | or if it's condisered "finished" |
| 07:08.54 | WobWork | North? |
| 07:08.54 | |Pixel| | you might want to visit lua.org and read the various mailing lists |
| 07:09.14 | Bam_DK | yea I have... not all of them of course :) |
| 07:09.50 | |Pixel| | what's cool about LUA is that every release is more or less considered "finished" |
| 07:09.55 | |Pixel| | because it's not backward compatible |
| 07:10.21 | Bam_DK | it's a simple language.. and I suppose it will stay that way |
| 07:10.39 | |Pixel| | so at every release, they throw away lots of stuff, and re-invent new concepts |
| 07:10.53 | Bam_DK | a bit more syntatic sugar in some places would do wonders though :P |
| 07:10.58 | |Pixel| | which basically means that each release is kinda a different language |
| 07:11.01 | |Pixel| | ha |
| 07:11.12 | |Pixel| | there's a lot of syntaxic sugar in LUA :P |
| 07:11.23 | Bam_DK | hehe |
| 07:11.43 | Bam_DK | well I've coded a lot of Ruby... so I am missing things from time to time :) |
| 07:12.15 | mitch0 | yo |
| 07:12.48 | Bam_DK | but in Ruby I do miss first-order functions like in Lua :) |
| 07:13.34 | Bam_DK | im waiting for the ultimate language that does it all lol |
| 07:15.22 | *** join/#wowace Tupsi (n=lumpi@217.7.101.202) |
| 07:16.45 | krka | lhf is around in #lua |
| 07:16.48 | krka | the other two devs aren't |
| 07:16.56 | WobWork | We could call it Esperanto! |
| 07:16.57 | krka | also, some of the residents are really really lua experts |
| 07:16.58 | Bam_DK | ok thanks |
| 07:17.08 | krka | having submitted many patches and stuff into lua |
| 07:17.31 | Bam_DK | good.. so it's offical enough the channel I guess |
| 07:17.32 | Roartindon_ | ckknight: Is there a ResetDB() method for DB namespaces? |
| 07:17.47 | krka | as of lua 5.0, they've become much more conservative, trying to remain backwards compatible |
| 07:17.57 | krka | quite a difference from early lua, when they didn't have many users |
| 07:18.04 | ckknight | Roartindon_: um, could be. check the wiki |
| 07:18.10 | WobWork | The problem with becoming popular =) |
| 07:18.12 | Roartindon_ | didn't see anything obvious |
| 07:18.14 | Bam_DK | yea I wonder about who is using Lua |
| 07:18.20 | krka | i don't think they'll make any dramatic syntax changes at this point |
| 07:18.31 | Bam_DK | got a feeling WoW addon developers are a high percentage :P |
| 07:18.38 | Roartindon_ | oh nevermind me |
| 07:18.51 | Roartindon_ | Duhh. |
| 07:18.51 | krka | i disagree with there being "a lot" of syntactic sugar in lua |
| 07:19.01 | krka | the only one that comes to mind is table.key and the color operator |
| 07:19.03 | Roartindon_ | I see it now |
| 07:19.07 | WobWork | : |
| 07:19.21 | Bam_DK | yea I agree... the most basic and most important stuff is there |
| 07:22.34 | Bam_DK | oh btw... had another question... I've made this ItemPrice library... but I'm not sure if it makes sense to put it out into the public |
| 07:23.23 | ckknight | like ColaLight or what? |
| 07:23.43 | krka | itemprice is a way better name :) |
| 07:23.46 | Bam_DK | hmm.. does ColoLight have vendor sell prices? |
| 07:23.55 | WobWork | I believe sio yes |
| 07:24.11 | Bam_DK | well the big issue is keeping it accurate and upto date |
| 07:24.36 | Bam_DK | and I cant take credit for the data in anyway... I have "stolen" if from various other addons |
| 07:24.45 | Bam_DK | mostly Informant |
| 07:25.18 | Bam_DK | I dont know what the feeling is about doing that |
| 07:28.12 | Diao | i think colalight is designed to just store vendor prices |
| 07:28.47 | Bam_DK | what I'm thinking about is if for example Norganna feels ownership of the collected data |
| 07:29.22 | Bam_DK | or if it's considered for everyone to use however they wish |
| 07:30.23 | hyperChipmunk | wtf |
| 07:30.24 | hyperChipmunk | lol |
| 07:30.49 | hyperChipmunk | pretty much all our data is scraped from wowhead with a script- |
| 07:31.28 | tig_ | Bam_DK: iirc norganna's addons are under gpl |
| 07:31.32 | Bam_DK | I was considering doing that too.. though this would go through ALL items... a little worried about the pressure on their servers |
| 07:31.50 | Bam_DK | who are these wowhead guys anyway? |
| 07:32.07 | tig_ | Bam_DK: "Auctioneer or any of our products, which are all fully GPL, opensource and absolutely 100% free" |
| 07:32.33 | tig_ | so just gpl your code and everything is fine |
| 07:32.44 | Bam_DK | hmm yes... but does that go as far as allowing to "dismantle" the data and putting it out under another name? |
| 07:32.59 | Bam_DK | I'd give full credit where credit is due absolutely |
| 07:33.30 | Bam_DK | GPL yes... gah.. need to get a better understanding of the various lincences :P |
| 07:34.33 | NightHawkTheSane | why does it seem like all the fontstrings in the ABF layout are defined and layed out twice? |
| 07:35.12 | Bam_DK | better go get SVN access then :P |
| 07:35.34 | tig_ | Bam_DK: that's absoltely ok but your "derived" code needs to be gpl'ed |
| 07:35.47 | Bam_DK | yes |
| 07:35.56 | *** join/#wowace Nargiddley (n=narg@203-97-236-74.cable.telstraclear.net) |
| 07:36.21 | Bam_DK | I get tired when I try to read the "legalese" in the licenses lol |
| 07:36.37 | Bam_DK | I just want to know I am not selling my soul or something hehe |
| 07:37.24 | NightHawkTheSane | you should check section VI, subsection 6, paragraph f. |
| 07:37.39 | Bam_DK | ok |
| 07:37.59 | NightHawkTheSane | :P |
| 07:38.12 | Bam_DK | is that where I sell my sould? :P |
| 07:39.39 | NightHawkTheSane | well, sell isn't really the proper term. I mean, it's the GPL, so really you're just licensing your soul for no profit. |
| 07:40.02 | Bam_DK | im looking for a license that just says "This software is free. Yes, free... as in free beer!" |
| 07:40.30 | ckknight | oh, um |
| 07:40.37 | Mikk | "I hereby place this work in the public domain." <- |
| 07:40.38 | ckknight | just go with GPL |
| 07:40.42 | Bam_DK | :P |
| 07:40.45 | Mikk | GPL isn't free. |
| 07:40.46 | ckknight | yea, but PD might be what you want |
| 07:40.49 | ckknight | or MIT |
| 07:40.59 | ckknight | I like LGPL for libraries, though |
| 07:41.03 | Mikk | I put nearly all my stuff in the public domain |
| 07:41.21 | Mikk | Except stuff I do at work anyway :> |
| 07:41.32 | Bam_DK | LGPL is not quite as free as GPL, right? |
| 07:41.37 | NightHawkTheSane | I prefer the WTFPL to public domain.. http://sam.zoy.org/wtfpl/ |
| 07:41.41 | NightHawkTheSane | >.> |
| 07:41.46 | Mikk | LGPL is more free than GPL |
| 07:41.54 | Bam_DK | oh |
| 07:41.54 | Mikk | LGPL allows for libraries to be embedded into non-GPL apps |
| 07:42.04 | Mikk | But the library itself cannot be modified without providing source |
| 07:42.40 | Bam_DK | ok so the L stands for "Less restricted" |
| 07:43.25 | NightHawkTheSane | well, it stands for "lesser" actually, but yeah, its slightly less restrictive |
| 07:43.53 | Mikk | It originally meant "Library" |
| 07:44.05 | Mikk | But, yeah, "Lesser" now |
| 07:44.06 | NightHawkTheSane | well, yes. |
| 07:44.27 | Bam_DK | I had the understand it implied that the software could not be used in commercial software |
| 07:45.02 | Bam_DK | Like GNU's "readline" library |
| 07:47.20 | Bam_DK | ahh it's the other way around... GPL cannot be used in commercial software, LGPL can |
| 07:47.36 | NightHawkTheSane | right |
| 07:48.28 | Bam_DK | not that it matters too much for WoW... doubt anyone will have much success trying to sell addons |
| 07:48.55 | NightHawkTheSane | Heh, well you can ask the RDX guys i guess. |
| 07:49.21 | Bam_DK | since I dont know them, they probably havent had success :P |
| 07:49.28 | Bam_DK | or? |
| 07:49.49 | krka | there's nothing in gpl that forbids commercialisum |
| 07:50.18 | krka | just that you have to provide the source code too, and permit it others to do what they want |
| 07:50.34 | Bam_DK | ok |
| 07:50.41 | krka | however, that does make some business strategies useless |
| 07:50.43 | Bam_DK | just reading through http://www.gnu.org/licenses/why-not-lgpl.html |
| 07:51.03 | krka | i believe cedega has some weird strategy |
| 07:51.04 | NightHawkTheSane | I honestly have no idea how well RDX "sells", but they're certainly trying, at least. *shrug* |
| 07:51.16 | `-FISKER_Q\ | gpl must die etc. |
| 07:51.30 | ckknight | actually RDX split into RDX and RDX.Cid |
| 07:51.38 | ckknight | RDX.Cid doesn't charge, Shirik is on that team |
| 07:51.51 | ckknight | RDX proper is run by Veni or something, who recently left WoW, I believe |
| 07:51.57 | Bam_DK | does Blizzard have anything against commercial addon development btw? |
| 07:52.01 | art3mis | man some of my clients are special |
| 07:52.36 | ckknight | Bam_DK: gray area |
| 07:52.44 | art3mis | they wanted to back up outlook and thier documents so i said just get a small pocket sized 160gb so you can carry it around... he goes and buys a 300gb ebook that requires an oulet and its huge |
| 07:52.57 | art3mis | so there was really no point in him asking me for advice |
| 07:53.02 | Bam_DK | hehe... a matter of how much money they are making probably hehe |
| 07:53.06 | `-FISKER_Q\ | ;D |
| 07:53.11 | `-FISKER_Q\ | i like those people |
| 07:53.25 | NightHawkTheSane | Bam_DK: depends on how you interpret the TOS/EULA, but I think tetchnically the RDX guys are selling a subscription to the website, support, etc, and not the actual product. A la Red Hat, etc. |
| 07:53.37 | Bam_DK | ok |
| 07:53.44 | `-FISKER_Q\ | "I want advice(really i'm just posting these pc-stats that i think is good, and i just want to look better than you)" |
| 07:53.52 | NightHawkTheSane | It still boils down to paying money for an addon, though *shrug* |
| 07:53.55 | art3mis | hehe yeah |
| 07:54.14 | `-FISKER_Q\ | Like this guy who'd rather get 2TB of harddrive space and use some ATI bullshit crap card |
| 07:54.22 | art3mis | but now he's gotta pay me 80/hr to network thier 3 offices AND setup shared drivse for automatic backup |
| 07:54.28 | `-FISKER_Q\ | and also an amd instead of an intel |
| 07:54.32 | `-FISKER_Q\ | i lol'd so hard :P |
| 07:54.35 | art3mis | instead of doing it the smart and easy way that he could actually take home with him ;P |
| 07:54.50 | `-FISKER_Q\ | told him to cut down on the harddrives and use the money on a better graphics card and a Core2 |
| 07:54.55 | Bam_DK | yea well... Blizzard has other and bigger problems anyway with some other types making money on WoW :P |
| 07:55.06 | NightHawkTheSane | art3mis: something about gift horses and mouths, I guess? ;) |
| 07:55.20 | krka | nothing illegal about writing code that references wow functions, really |
| 07:55.24 | krka | (and selling it) |
| 07:56.04 | Bam_DK | in the end it will benefit Blizzard anyway I assume |
| 07:56.28 | art3mis | NightHawkTheSane: heh yeah i suppose thats actually one of my failings as a consultant |
| 07:56.49 | art3mis | i go for the cheap and easiiest way forgetting that most people that have been in business in new york dont really care about cost |
| 07:57.07 | art3mis | good god paladins are rigged |
| 07:57.16 | art3mis | i just took on 7 ogres in badlands |
| 07:57.34 | art3mis | 42-44 and im 45 and i lived |
| 07:57.44 | Bam_DK | yesterday and you just finished? :) |
| 07:58.17 | NightHawkTheSane | lol |
| 07:58.34 | art3mis | fisker i'd take an amd64 dual over intel any day |
| 07:58.42 | art3mis | and i like ati way better than nvidia |
| 07:58.59 | art3mis | and really it's fun to say you've got 2tb of space |
| 07:59.04 | art3mis | even if yer not using it ;P |
| 07:59.06 | `-FISKER_Q\ | :P |
| 07:59.09 | hyperChipmunk | i'm guessing you don't play wow on linux |
| 07:59.17 | art3mis | nupe |
| 07:59.19 | `-FISKER_Q\ | nope |
| 07:59.30 | art3mis | oooooooooooooooooo |
| 07:59.31 | Bam_DK | <- Mac addict :) |
| 07:59.32 | hyperChipmunk | that explains it =p |
| 07:59.33 | ZealotOnAStick | nVidia > ATI by far. |
| 07:59.34 | art3mis | thunderstorm! |
| 07:59.43 | art3mis | on win2k ati > nvidia ;P |
| 07:59.48 | ZealotOnAStick | AMD vs. Intel .. . meh. Depends. |
| 07:59.58 | art3mis | ive used and had ati's for far to long and ive seen way to many burnt nvidias |
| 08:00.00 | ZealotOnAStick | Core 2 Duos are slightly better right now. |
| 08:00.15 | ZealotOnAStick | (my current machine and my previous are both AMDs) |
| 08:00.15 | art3mis | the dualcore 64's are REALLY nice on machines that can use it |
| 08:00.30 | art3mis | like nix or vista/xp |
| 08:00.34 | ZealotOnAStick | See, exactly the opposite experience for me. |
| 08:00.41 | art3mis | really? |
| 08:00.43 | ZealotOnAStick | I've seen vastly more problems with ATI cards. |
| 08:00.46 | Diao | isn't intel > amd right now |
| 08:00.47 | Bam_DK | I hope so... still waiting for Apple to release OS X 10.5 so I can use 64 bit |
| 08:00.49 | Diao | 45nm process! |
| 08:00.50 | art3mis | oh for video cards yeah |
| 08:01.06 | art3mis | video cards are really one of those things like cpus that is totally subjective |
| 08:01.11 | art3mis | like maxtor drives |
| 08:01.13 | Diao | amd bought ati anyway |
| 08:01.18 | art3mis | ive NEVER had a maxtor die on me |
| 08:01.22 | ZealotOnAStick | The only thing I've seen be a problem on nVidia cards, is sometimes fans fail. |
| 08:01.24 | art3mis | but i've rma'd shitloads for others |
| 08:01.26 | ZealotOnAStick | Hence, replace the fan. |
| 08:01.42 | ZealotOnAStick | Too many OEMs put cheap cooling hardware on them. |
| 08:01.49 | art3mis | and ive loved amd since the k3's |
| 08:01.57 | Jagobah | anyone have an mp3 player or pmp ? |
| 08:02.06 | Bam_DK | anyone know if OpenGL will benefit from 64-bit? |
| 08:02.07 | art3mis | 3 different ones |
| 08:02.07 | ZealotOnAStick | Yeah, I won't touch a Maxtor drive by choice. |
| 08:02.28 | art3mis | have a lyra, a nano and a cheap irivie |
| 08:02.30 | art3mis | r |
| 08:02.38 | ZealotOnAStick | I was staunchly against AMD until the Athons. |
| 08:02.45 | ZealotOnAStick | K6-2s and 3s were "ok" |
| 08:02.49 | art3mis | i loved my duron |
| 08:02.53 | Jagobah | I'm looking to get either a Zen Vision W or an Archos 604 |
| 08:02.56 | art3mis | 650 running at 1350 stable |
| 08:02.57 | art3mis | ;P |
| 08:03.00 | Diao | waiting for a 4x4 |
| 08:03.03 | art3mis | the archos rule for video |
| 08:03.06 | Diao | to see if it can challenge intel's new processors |
| 08:03.07 | art3mis | hands down |
| 08:03.20 | ZealotOnAStick | I use my phone as an MP3 lpayer. |
| 08:03.23 | art3mis | the zen is a bit bulky but still nice |
| 08:03.26 | ZealotOnAStick | player, rather. |
| 08:03.33 | ZealotOnAStick | It's got a MicroSD slot on it. |
| 08:03.42 | art3mis | hehe yeah i do that on my blackjack |
| 08:03.48 | ZealotOnAStick | which I've currently got a 1GB MicroSD card in that ended up being like $10 with shipping. |
| 08:03.50 | Jagobah | yeah.... the slot's a big pro for the vision |
| 08:03.51 | art3mis | for when my psp and irivier die on the train |
| 08:04.16 | Jagobah | it can support compactflash |
| 08:04.35 | Bam_DK | can I not use my forum account to edit the wiki? |
| 08:04.42 | *** join/#wowace dotted (n=me@194.182.114.197) |
| 08:04.46 | ZealotOnAStick | No, they're seperate signups. |
| 08:04.50 | Bam_DK | ok |
| 08:04.52 | ZealotOnAStick | Which I feel is a bit silly . . . |
| 08:05.00 | NightHawkTheSane | ckknight: hm, the dogtags: [percenthp:hpcolor:percent] doesn't add the percent, but [percenthp:percent:hpcolor] will. It'd be nice if the former worked. :) |
| 08:05.41 | ckknight | sorry, impossible |
| 08:06.06 | NightHawkTheSane | absolutely 100% not possible? |
| 08:06.07 | ckknight | impossible to the point where it'd be overkill to support it |
| 08:06.14 | ckknight | so you don't get it |
| 08:06.20 | NightHawkTheSane | meh, fair enough. |
| 08:10.23 | *** join/#wowace Stephmw (n=steph@212.69.51.139) |
| 08:10.31 | ckknight | :percent expects a number |
| 08:10.34 | *** join/#wowace quoin (n=quoin@219-90-154-53.ip.adam.com.au) |
| 08:10.34 | ckknight | :hpcolor returns a string |
| 08:11.25 | Bam_DK | signing the SVN page.. is that 2xhyphens and 3xtilde? |
| 08:11.32 | Bam_DK | bit hard to read the letters :P |
| 08:11.47 | mitch0 | Bam_DK: copy-paste-ftw? |
| 08:11.58 | Bam_DK | erm lol... yes :) |
| 08:12.22 | Bam_DK | so technical... :P |
| 08:12.44 | ZealotOnAStick | Oy. |
| 08:13.20 | Bam_DK | it worked!! |
| 08:13.21 | ZealotOnAStick | Danger Mouse torrents! |
| 08:14.24 | *** join/#wowace [r1-Fox] (i=starfox@85-124-128-143.dynamic.xdsl-line.inode.at) |
| 08:14.39 | Stephmw | heya |
| 08:15.50 | ckknight | oh, btw, think I figured out the crashing bug |
| 08:16.15 | jaete | do tell :] |
| 08:16.42 | ckknight | commit coming |
| 08:16.43 | Silviu- | yay, 3 cheers for ckknight |
| 08:16.44 | CIA-31 | 03ckknight * r33877 10PitBull/ (Combat/Combat.lua PitBull.lua): |
| 08:16.44 | CIA-31 | PitBull - store nonWackyUnits by frame, not by unitid. |
| 08:16.44 | CIA-31 | Combat - make debugstack only show once. |
| 08:16.58 | ckknight | I was able to make it bug out when I disbanded a group |
| 08:17.02 | ckknight | because of that goddamn bug |
| 08:17.33 | mitch0 | ckknight: it happened to me when we left arena and thus the raid group disbanded. but it didn't happen all the time |
| 08:17.34 | hyperChipmunk | good deal |
| 08:17.55 | ckknight | mitch0: right, I'm guessing it happened when someone left the group and then you left the group, right? |
| 08:18.03 | mitch0 | erm, no |
| 08:18.07 | ckknight | well |
| 08:18.09 | ckknight | whatever |
| 08:18.10 | ckknight | test |
| 08:18.17 | mitch0 | we just left arena and *bang* |
| 08:18.27 | mitch0 | might be that at that time I left last or w/e |
| 08:18.35 | Stephmw | ckknight: does this recent change mean I could have duplicate units? |
| 08:18.35 | hyperChipmunk | that's kinda exactly what happens when you leave an arena |
| 08:18.42 | hyperChipmunk | you're in a raidgroup while you're inside |
| 08:18.50 | hyperChipmunk | and you leave it when you get out |
| 08:18.54 | hyperChipmunk | automatically |
| 08:19.01 | ckknight | right, hyperChipmunk |
| 08:19.22 | mitch0 | also had some other nil reference or somesuch when first entering arena, but I didn't have time to take a closer look at it, sorry |
| 08:19.26 | ckknight | Stephmw: that was before. And that's mostly for raid stuff where you have an MT unit list and a normal unit list |
| 08:20.11 | sedatedChipmunk | ckknight introduces catastrophic bugs and then fixes them a week later so that people will hail him as a living god. you heard it here first |
| 08:20.19 | Stephmw | haha |
| 08:20.23 | sedatedChipmunk | it's a conspiracy! |
| 08:20.24 | ckknight | anyone want to hear a fable? |
| 08:20.35 | ckknight | very relevant to the situation |
| 08:20.42 | *** join/#wowace Grine (n=Gustaf@c83-248-131-103.bredband.comhem.se) |
| 08:20.43 | Stephmw | ckknight: actually, I wanted to create dup units... but I haven't tried lately :) |
| 08:21.58 | Stephmw | ckknight: I remember you mentioning that the way PitBull is written, that couldn't be done easily (for the party/player) |
| 08:22.24 | ckknight | yea, it can't right now |
| 08:22.26 | `-FISKER_Q\ | anyone know how i make a website icon for my sites? |
| 08:22.28 | ckknight | nor do I see any real point |
| 08:22.57 | `-FISKER_Q\ | found it :P |
| 08:23.09 | Stephmw | ckknight: no, it's got limited usage |
| 08:23.19 | ZealotOnAStick | fisker: do you mean favicon? |
| 08:23.21 | ckknight | which would be? |
| 08:23.27 | NightHawkTheSane | `-FISKER_Q\: slap an icon image fuke named "favicon.ico" in the web root |
| 08:23.30 | *** join/#wowace kamel (n=geforz@p54A786AF.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 08:23.41 | Stephmw | ckknight: my idea is instead of adding more info onto the existing unit frames (which are getting quite busy), I'd create a 2nd set just for specific info |
| 08:24.07 | Stephmw | ckknight: so, for instance... a summary of the group, just showing Green=healthy, red=damaged |
| 08:24.11 | Bam_DK | I can think of some ideas where you would want some small health bars close together in another place: player, target, targettarget, etc |
| 08:24.53 | Bam_DK | a customised HUD so to speak |
| 08:25.52 | ZealotOnAStick | ckknight: fable? |
| 08:26.19 | *** join/#wowace Neebler (n=BuM@adsl-66-122-185-130.dsl.chic01.pacbell.net) |
| 08:26.22 | ZealotOnAStick | sounds like a mini-Grid to me. |
| 08:26.25 | ckknight | the fable of the three Chinese brothers |
| 08:26.31 | ckknight | they were all doctors |
| 08:26.38 | ckknight | the best in all of China |
| 08:26.45 | ckknight | the first was able to heal anyone's wounds |
| 08:26.54 | ckknight | people came far and wide to get their gashes mended |
| 08:27.01 | ckknight | and he became popular throughout the land |
| 08:27.07 | Stephmw | ZealotOnAStick: in that configuration, aye |
| 08:27.09 | ckknight | the second was able to cure anyone's disease |
| 08:27.21 | Bam_DK | mini-Grid yes... but with the customisation that PitBull allows |
| 08:27.22 | ckknight | so, like his older brother, people came from far and wide to see him |
| 08:27.28 | ckknight | and he became very popular and rich |
| 08:27.35 | ckknight | the third brother was different, though |
| 08:27.37 | Stephmw | ZealotOnAStick: but Grid seems to do the same as PitBull is doing atm... adding more and more info into some existing frames |
| 08:27.43 | ckknight | he was the most skilled of all the three |
| 08:27.57 | ckknight | for in his entire village and countryside, nobody got sick or hurt |
| 08:28.18 | ckknight | but he was not known throughout the land, and never became rich |
| 08:28.47 | Bam_DK | off to work.. cya :) |
| 08:28.53 | Neebler | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r2xirHODug8 |
| 08:28.59 | Neebler | why did I watch that entire video |
| 08:29.11 | ckknight | the moral of the story is that you can't take a passive role otherwise people forget that you exist. Only when some kind of tragedy is triumphed can you be called great |
| 08:29.48 | mitch0 | hohum |
| 08:30.18 | ckknight | also, the maintainer is a thankless job |
| 08:30.20 | sedatedChipmunk | was bro#1 a soldier? |
| 08:30.27 | ckknight | sedatedChipmunk: they were all doctors |
| 08:30.45 | sedatedChipmunk | see, so he wasn't inflicting the wounds in the first place! |
| 08:30.51 | ckknight | lol |
| 08:31.21 | ckknight | yacoob: well, yes |
| 08:31.26 | mitch0 | hehe |
| 08:31.45 | Stephmw | ckknight: I'm an ideas guym I just wave my hands vaguely in the air and thank whoever takes the idea and runs with it |
| 08:31.59 | *** join/#wowace Tsikura (i=nn@user-0cev16e.cable.mindspring.com) |
| 08:32.11 | ckknight | sometimes people have issues with the concept of the "end justifying the means". Well that's certainly better if you become paralyzed in a world where no means are good enough and the end turns to shit |
| 08:32.38 | ckknight | better than* |
| 08:33.23 | *** join/#wowace gnor (n=jaydee@cpe-76-81-38-253.socal.res.rr.com) |
| 08:33.55 | Neebler | SRA - Sexually offensive addon that eats coconuts for breakfast. |
| 08:34.02 | Neebler | so it does what? :\ |
| 08:34.11 | Punkie` | read the lua? |
| 08:34.13 | NightHawkTheSane | it eats coconuts for breakfast, obviously |
| 08:34.25 | Neebler | neg, I'd rather have someone briefly inform me over internet relay chat |
| 08:34.41 | NightHawkTheSane | I just did, you're welcome. :D |
| 08:34.46 | ckknight | it's a secret |
| 08:34.48 | Neebler | mmmk, thanks then |
| 08:34.51 | Punkie` | NightHawk did ;) |
| 08:35.02 | yacoob | speaking of heroes, it's becomming soooo crappy... |
| 08:35.14 | ckknight | yacoob: how so? |
| 08:35.16 | Punkie` | I liked the latest episode tbh |
| 08:35.21 | chuckg | It's grown better. |
| 08:35.22 | chuckg | Not worse. |
| 08:35.24 | Dynom | haven't seen 19 yet |
| 08:35.26 | chuckg | But that just means the decline is near. |
| 08:35.30 | chuckg | Unfortunately. |
| 08:35.35 | Punkie` | yeah |
| 08:35.39 | chuckg | If they push it past two seasons, they will ruin it. |
| 08:35.42 | [Ammo] | I liked how they killed of the chinese guy without any further explanation |
| 08:35.42 | chuckg | It needs to end. |
| 08:35.44 | Dynom | tbh it needs more cowbell, or rather, two. |
| 08:35.48 | sedatedChipmunk | lol |
| 08:35.55 | Punkie` | Lost has become kind of crappy if you ask me |
| 08:36.00 | Cyrez | ckknight: Wanna see that bug I was talking about? I updated PitBull and checked all the externals for good measure and I'm still seeing the same gltich. |
| 08:36.02 | [Ammo] | oh wait did I just spoil it for everyone? |
| 08:36.04 | ckknight | [Ammo]: Chinese guy? |
| 08:36.08 | chuckg | Lost was never good :| |
| 08:36.12 | Neebler | its grown too big to be in a 1 hour slot, way too many different storylines going on at once |
| 08:36.13 | sedatedChipmunk | he was spoiling =p |
| 08:36.16 | chuckg | I love shows that are a singular timeline to an ending. |
| 08:36.19 | ckknight | Cyrez: what glitch? portrait? |
| 08:36.19 | Dynom | Punkie`: lost got crappy at the start of season two imo |
| 08:36.26 | Cyrez | Yeah. |
| 08:36.30 | chuckg | Start -> drama eps -> timeline ep -> drama eps -> timeline -> end. |
| 08:36.35 | chuckg | BSG needs to end next season. |
| 08:36.37 | chuckg | Or it will be ruined. |
| 08:36.50 | sedatedChipmunk | it was only ever slated for 5 |
| 08:36.55 | chuckg | Babylon 5 did right. |
| 08:36.58 | Cyrez | It happens if I simply switch my headgear then switch back. |
| 08:37.01 | chuckg | Until they picked back up again. |
| 08:37.02 | Punkie` | I still watch Lost anyway, it only takes an hour a week :P |
| 08:37.05 | Cyrez | http://img405.imageshack.us/my.php?image=2dbug1bj8.jpg |
| 08:37.05 | chuckg | Kil lthe shadow, end the show. |
| 08:37.05 | Cyrez | http://img183.imageshack.us/my.php?image=2dbug2yh6.jpg |
| 08:37.07 | ckknight | Cyrez: yea, I'm not horribly busy now, and I think I finally tracked down the nasty bug |
| 08:37.07 | Neebler | prison break!!~ |
| 08:37.08 | chuckg | THat rocked. |
| 08:37.18 | chuckg | Which ck? |
| 08:37.19 | Dynom | PB starts to get boring also |
| 08:37.27 | chuckg | How can prison break exist? |
| 08:37.29 | Dynom | they should have ended it when the escaped tbh |
| 08:37.32 | chuckg | Didn't he already break out of prison the first time? |
| 08:37.33 | ckknight | chuckg: crashing bug |
| 08:37.41 | ckknight | chuckg: lol, yea, now he's in Panama or something |
| 08:37.45 | chuckg | Stupid. |
| 08:37.51 | Cyrez | The hair goes through the cap in the first shot, and in the second shot with the other thing on he has no hair at all. |
| 08:37.52 | chuckg | If you make a show with one season, end it. |
| 08:38.00 | chuckg | 24 should never have done more than 1-2 seasons. |
| 08:38.09 | chuckg | But at least they didn't create it in such a way that it was unworkable to continue. |
| 08:38.19 | chuckg | If you're doing a timeline based show, shoot for 3 seasons. |
| 08:38.29 | chuckg | That's my opinion at least. |
| 08:38.32 | Cyrez | And it stays like that unless I reload or otherwise do something to bring up the loading screen. |
| 08:38.36 | Dynom | can't agree more chuckg |
| 08:38.38 | yacoob | ckknight, they're running out of ideas, it's more and more predictible |
| 08:38.43 | yacoob | "I'm your grandma" |
| 08:38.45 | chuckg | It's also interesting to note.. |
| 08:38.45 | yacoob | puhlease. |
| 08:38.50 | chuckg | Timeline type shows are becoming the norm. |
| 08:38.53 | Cyrez | Funky, eh? |
| 08:38.59 | Dynom | Same with SG-A tbh, altough the last ep was very nice. |
| 08:39.07 | Cyrez | I changed the scaling to 2.0 so it'd be easier to see. |
| 08:39.16 | chuckg | If you don't end a timeline like show, you get the DBZ syndrom. |
| 08:39.29 | ckknight | yacoob: lol, I thought it was interesting and tied things together |
| 08:39.31 | chuckg | "Ok we just beat super saiyna level one guy hardest badass in the UNIVERSE no one could be harder" |
| 08:39.41 | chuckg | Next season "OH MY GOD LEVEL TWO ITS IMPOSSIBLE" |
| 08:39.43 | yacoob | last series I was enjoying from start to beginning was Dr Who season 1. |
| 08:39.52 | yacoob | ckknight, apparently our expectations are different :D |
| 08:40.32 | chuckg | Anyway, g'night. |
| 08:40.37 | chuckg | Scrubs -> bed. |
| 08:40.38 | yacoob | the thing is, with most sff shows, they have the same ideas for episodes - it's only the details and rendition that differs |
| 08:41.12 | CIA-31 | 03roartindon * r33878 10Aloft/ (7 files in 4 dirs): |
| 08:41.12 | CIA-31 | Aloft |
| 08:41.12 | CIA-31 | - Added new Presets module. Aloft now comes with 4 different presets to give players a starting point for customizing their own nameplates |
| 08:43.21 | `-FISKER_Q\ | anyone know what DDR2 ram you use for Core 2? |
| 08:43.26 | `-FISKER_Q\ | DDR2-???? |
| 08:44.22 | ckknight | I liked Dance Dance Revolution |
| 08:44.39 | `-FISKER_Q\ | i hate you :( |
| 08:44.50 | Punkie` | roartindon: ping |
| 08:45.49 | Cyrez | When in doubt, just get the fastest. It'll run at whatever the board does. |
| 08:45.54 | Roartindon_ | Punkie`: what's up? |
| 08:47.25 | Punkie` | How is Aloft in 2.1 btw? :) |
| 08:47.25 | Roartindon_ | Punkie`: Last I tried, worked perfectly, no modifications |
| 08:47.25 | Cyrez | ckknight: Did you see the screenies I linked? |
| 08:47.25 | *** join/#wowace Telrin (n=test@klaagmuur.quince.nl) |
| 08:47.25 | ckknight | Cyrez: yea, it's a scaling bug |
| 08:47.25 | Cyrez | Ooo. >< |
| 08:47.26 | Cyrez | Other than that, I wub PitBull. <3 |
| 08:47.26 | Punkie` | Roartindon_: I meant in terms of CPU usage etc |
| 08:47.26 | Cyrez | I'd use 3D portraits but I don't have the horsepower to spare on this rig. |
| 08:47.33 | Cyrez | As nice as they are. |
| 08:47.39 | Cyrez | And I love the "?" thing. |
| 08:47.44 | Cyrez | That was a cool idea. |
| 08:47.53 | Punkie` | That's on agUF too? |
| 08:48.26 | krka | what's a timeline show? |
| 08:49.11 | Roartindon_ | Punkie`: Haven't checked it out yet; I'm expecting it'll show pretty low CPU. |
| 08:50.10 | *** join/#wowace DrL|Gedgold (n=bla@213-156-52-122.fastres.net) |
| 08:50.13 | Punkie` | Ok, I hope so :) |
| 08:51.26 | NightHawkTheSane | "What's the point of a senseless tragedy if you can't find humor in it." |
| 08:51.28 | Grine | ckknight, is there any reason why pitbul errors don't go to BugSack? |
| 08:51.46 | ckknight | no |
| 08:51.50 | ckknight | what errors? |
| 08:58.35 | ckknight | Grine: what errors? |
| 08:58.46 | Grine | sorry |
| 08:59.00 | Grine | got some errors stacking up after getting kicked from a party |
| 08:59.21 | Grine | were filling up my chat window |
| 09:02.34 | ckknight | oh |
| 09:02.36 | ckknight | update, guy |
| 09:05.22 | ckknight | also note, Grine, how it says to inform me |
| 09:05.51 | Grine | yeah sorry, I just thuoght of itnow |
| 09:07.19 | ckknight | but updating should fix it |
| 09:09.52 | Mikk | Yaknow what'd make Baggins ridiculously easy to use? Being able to drag stuff around in the virtual bags / sections |
| 09:09.59 | Mikk | Mostly equipment tbh |
| 09:10.22 | Mikk | Annoys me to no end that my extra gear gets mixed up with instance loot |
| 09:10.39 | Mikk | So dragging "my" gear off to a separate section = win |
| 09:11.31 | mitch0 | Mikk: advanced bags plus |
| 09:12.14 | Nargiddley | Mikk, alt-right click add to whatever section you want |
| 09:12.43 | Andune | mikk: I use ClosetGnome to manage my gear sets, and just have baggins sort those separately |
| 09:13.24 | Mikk | Mm yeah I'm using itemrack to handle my sets |
| 09:13.29 | Andune | also nice for hwen i upgrade, I change my set, and the previous piece "falls out" of my ClosetGnome section down into the misc equip section with my other loots.. |
| 09:13.40 | Mikk | Except I do weapons & trinkets separately |
| 09:14.15 | Mikk | Oh and there's some bug with the itemrack integration that I need to fix tbh |
| 09:14.28 | Mikk | Some items aren't counted as in set items even though they are |
| 09:14.57 | Mikk | Nargiddley: Nice on the alt-right click one. I had not idea that was possible :> |
| 09:15.01 | *** join/#wowace Dekuna (n=Dek@rrcs-24-173-17-197.sw.biz.rr.com) |
| 09:15.03 | *** join/#wowace hell_lord (n=Erich@12-205-150-207.client.mchsi.com) |
| 09:15.12 | hell_lord | anyone around? |
| 09:15.16 | Punkie` | nope |
| 09:15.26 | hell_lord | omg i am having the most horrible problem ever :P |
| 09:15.26 | Dekuna | no |
| 09:15.28 | Dekuna | haha |
| 09:15.36 | hell_lord | clearfont2 breaks sct |
| 09:15.55 | hell_lord | the worst part about it is that after scouring the forums of both i could find no one else with the same problem |
| 09:16.06 | Dekuna | i use both |
| 09:16.15 | Dekuna | which font are you using? anything different or special? |
| 09:16.16 | Andune | really? Could have swore I read something about that on the CF2 forums just the other day. |
| 09:16.33 | Andune | fontsize issue? |
| 09:16.46 | hell_lord | no, sct just plain doesn't display anything |
| 09:18.02 | hell_lord | Dekuna: and no |
| 09:18.10 | hell_lord | Dekuna: i tried changing the font but to no effect |
| 09:18.18 | Dekuna | hmm |
| 09:18.24 | Andune | been using CF2 for a while and this just happened, or just newly install CF2? |
| 09:18.28 | hell_lord | i tried using applytoaddons on and off |
| 09:18.34 | Grine | when using baggins, what are people using to make sure things stack as big as possible in the standard bags? |
| 09:18.35 | hell_lord | i just started playing again |
| 09:18.36 | hell_lord | fresh install |
| 09:18.54 | Andune | did you follow step2 in the readme file? |
| 09:19.57 | hell_lord | no, because i don't want SCT to use the fonts from clearfont |
| 09:20.17 | hell_lord | SCT has its own set of 4 fonts and i want it to use those |
| 09:20.48 | hell_lord | lol this UI central is some serious bloatware |
| 09:22.19 | Andune | well I don't use CF2. Was looking to switch (still using CF, which works fine for me) and was reading up on the forums about some recent problems, so have been holding off. :) |
| 09:23.13 | Andune | So if you don't need some of the newer things that CF2 provides over CF, you might try just CF. Back when I was using SCT, it worked for me. (using MSBT now) |
| 09:23.24 | hell_lord | what is MSBT |
| 09:24.05 | Andune | Miks Scrolling Battle Text. Similar to SCT, but I like it much better. |
| 09:24.16 | hell_lord | SCT is so good :( also they just added to SCT the option of having the text appear above nameplates |
| 09:24.19 | hell_lord | which is what i've always wanted |
| 09:24.42 | CIA-31 | 03ckknight * r33879 10PitBull/Spark/Spark.lua: PitBull-Spark - typo, adding a not to make this work again |
| 09:26.47 | hell_lord | damn mik is pimpin ain't he |
| 09:26.51 | hell_lord | spending Gs |
| 09:28.43 | *** join/#wowace sbu (n=sb@dslb-084-056-130-255.pools.arcor-ip.net) |
| 09:30.06 | CIA-31 | 03ammo * r33880 10SRA/ (SRA.lua SRA.toc): SRA: Slapped Red Ass |
| 09:32.05 | evl | ckknight: I'm going to do some more measuring of the spark when I get home today to make sure it scales properly with layout and doesn't exceed it's boundaries. |
| 09:32.41 | ckknight | I'll exceed your boundaries *shakes fist* |
| 09:33.27 | *** join/#wowace sun\ (n=sun@ARouen-152-1-102-223.w90-22.abo.wanadoo.fr) |
| 09:34.20 | [Ammo] | your mum exceeded all bounderies last night |
| 09:35.01 | evl | [Ammo]: dissing with bad spelling is the first step in my three step plan to utter internet failure. congratulations on completing step one. |
| 09:35.19 | [Ammo] | haha |
| 09:35.37 | evl | any ETA on 2.1? |
| 09:36.52 | krka | lol wtf |
| 09:37.06 | krka | i just randomly searched for linux games and found maelstroom |
| 09:37.15 | krka | apparently it's by slouken |
| 09:37.23 | evl | you're talking about The Linux Game. |
| 09:38.05 | `-FISKER_Q\ | yeah |
| 09:38.13 | `-FISKER_Q\ | i think he made maelstrom or something like that :O |
| 09:39.45 | krka | evl: yup |
| 09:39.49 | Pneu | is there an addon around that hands in repeatable quest items for you, like twilight texts |
| 09:39.56 | Pneu | rather than spending 12 weeks clicking buttons |
| 09:40.15 | hell_lord | my only problem is msbt is that the fonts are <i>horrible</i> |
| 09:40.34 | evl | Pneu: there's one on the wowace.com/files afaik |
| 09:40.55 | Andune | ah, I like them. To each his own :) |
| 09:41.18 | Silviu- | hell_lord but u can change the fonts |
| 09:41.48 | hell_lord | there's only 6 and they're all bad ;) |
| 09:42.05 | Silviu- | U can add new :) |
| 09:43.11 | [Ammo] | or download the extra fontpacks |
| 09:43.12 | hell_lord | the default font looks like a drunk child's handwriting |
| 09:43.35 | Andune | yeah. I use that for my crits or my spell resists. really makes 'em stand out from the rest of the text :) |
| 09:44.13 | hell_lord | i may seem to like choices sometimes but usually i prefer things to be just the way i want them by default :) |
| 09:44.56 | Silviu- | http://www.dafont.com/bloody.font |
| 09:45.04 | Silviu- | this i use as a font for msbt |
| 09:45.05 | Silviu- | ;) |
| 09:45.50 | evl | I like Vera :) |
| 09:46.06 | evl | extra RP bonus added with serif fonts |
| 09:46.54 | hell_lord | how do i change it except writing it into the lua file |
| 09:47.24 | evl | for what addon? |
| 09:47.31 | hell_lord | someone mentioned a font pack |
| 09:49.13 | *** join/#wowace faCe| (n=face@pD955DD8B.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 09:50.19 | Silviu- | hell_lord replace old one renaming new with the name of the old :) |
| 09:50.47 | hell_lord | Silviu-: in the source file? |
| 09:51.22 | Silviu- | U don`t need to edit lua |
| 09:51.28 | Silviu- | just delete the font |
| 09:51.30 | Silviu- | add the new |
| 09:51.36 | Silviu- | and rename it like your old font was |
| 09:52.57 | *** join/#wowace Vegeta]BT[ (n=Vegeta-G@xdsla020.osnanet.de) |
| 09:54.08 | *** join/#wowace [ND] (n=andy@h062040167062.gun.cm.kabsi.at) |
| 09:54.34 | Kirkburn|afk | <hell_lord> the worst part about it is that after scouring the forums of both i could find no one else with the same problem <-- er, what forums are you talking about? |
| 09:54.48 | Kirkburn|afk | I've explained the issue on wowace, Worldofwar, CG, and WoWI |
| 09:54.57 | Kirkburn|afk | Where do you want me to post? |
| 09:58.52 | Kirkburn|afk | You need to update every Ace addon, appears to be the solution |
| 09:59.12 | hell_lord | Kirkburn|afk: clearfont and sct |
| 09:59.28 | hell_lord | Kirkburn|afk: did you read what the problem was? |
| 09:59.33 | Kirkburn|afk | Make sure you have the absolute latest sct |
| 09:59.44 | Kirkburn|afk | Yes, I read the same problem 10 times last night |
| 10:01.04 | hell_lord | ok, i'll try it one more time then |
| 10:01.25 | Kirkburn|afk | By latest, I mean get it from /files |
| 10:01.38 | Kirkburn|afk | That's the only way to make sure it has the latest libs |
| 10:01.54 | hell_lord | i'm getting it from this page: http://grayhoof.wowinterface.com/portal.php |
| 10:02.02 | hell_lord | because that is the official page for sct |
| 10:02.10 | Kirkburn|afk | I know, this is an Ace library issue |
| 10:02.12 | *** join/#wowace Gandharva (n=Miranda@dslb-084-057-037-101.pools.arcor-ip.net) |
| 10:02.19 | hell_lord | oh |
| 10:02.25 | hell_lord | you mean i should get ace2 again? |
| 10:02.30 | Roartindon | Getting it from that page isn't going to give you the latest ace libraries within sct |
| 10:02.41 | Kirkburn|afk | Nope, no need, just download the latest sct from wowace.com/files |
| 10:03.25 | Kirkburn|afk | It'll probably give the same revision number, but it should have newer libs included. I think the problem is the recent update to AceEvents - there's a thread about it on the Ace2 forums |
| 10:03.31 | CIA-31 | 03ckknight * r33881 10PitBull/PitBull.lua: PitBull - fix issue with hidePartyInRaid not being saved across sessions |
| 10:03.53 | Kirkburn|afk | ckknight, just checking what I'm saying is correct, no? |
| 10:04.04 | ckknight | yea, you got it on the nose |
| 10:04.10 | Kirkburn|afk | Wunderbar |
| 10:04.11 | ckknight | it was an upgrade issue with AceEvent |
| 10:04.25 | ckknight | now if someone has AceEvent from a week ago and upgrades to today, they'll be fine |
| 10:04.29 | hell_lord | oh i bet i know what it was |
| 10:04.36 | ckknight | but if they have it from like 3 days ago, it could be fucked |
| 10:04.42 | hell_lord | i got clearfont2 from /files but i got sct from that other page |
| 10:04.50 | Pneu | happened right at the date i got my guild to install Bidder, and fucked all their Ace2 addons at once :) |
| 10:05.10 | hell_lord | i didn't realize that sct carried its own version of ace libs with it... |
| 10:06.39 | Kirkburn|afk | hell_lord, normally it wouldn't be a problem, but just this once ... :) |
| 10:07.20 | Kirkburn|afk | Yeah, each Ace addon on the UI sites comes with libs packaged with it. Normally this isn't a problem, but rarely it can cause problems. |
| 10:07.41 | hell_lord | bingo |
| 10:07.44 | hell_lord | problem solved |
| 10:08.08 | Kirkburn|afk | Great to hear :D |
| 10:08.13 | nevcairiel | morning |
| 10:08.21 | hell_lord | tyvm y'all |
| 10:09.31 | nevcairiel | finally weekend |
| 10:09.32 | nevcairiel | yay :) |
| 10:10.11 | Kirkburn|afk | Morning nev |
| 10:17.13 | CIA-31 | 03ryuji * r33882 10StatLogicLib/StatLogic-1.0/StatLogic-1.0.lua: StatLogicLib: updated and fixed localization zhTW. |
| 10:20.48 | Tupsi | anyone else here having wow crash issues using spamsentry and some other ace2 mods like bigwigs/ora2 together? |
| 10:21.03 | *** join/#wowace [DiE]Celeb (n=zlkkiz@ti300720a080-1774.bb.online.no) |
| 10:21.04 | Silviu- | Tupsi u use, PitBull ? |
| 10:21.19 | Tupsi | no aguf |
| 10:21.20 | *** join/#wowace Batos (n=Batos@193.69.144.170) |
| 10:21.24 | ckknight | hrm |
| 10:21.50 | Tupsi | had it already last weekend and thought it gone away with recent updates, but got it again last night |
| 10:21.52 | Silviu- | I don`t use ora2 anymore, neighter Spamsentry |
| 10:22.11 | Silviu- | But i had it from Pitbull i think |
| 10:22.23 | Silviu- | Will see later today from this updates in raid if i get again :) |
| 10:22.25 | Stephmw | I use PitBull and SpamSentry, no issues |
| 10:22.31 | Stephmw | no raiding either though |
| 10:22.34 | ckknight | PitBull should be fixed. |
| 10:22.40 | Tupsi | strange thing there is, the only way to stop wow from crashing after the first incedent is to disable spamsentry AND log into a different char then before which seems very odd |
| 10:23.14 | Stephmw | that sounds like they have some native bugs |
| 10:23.18 | Tupsi | never had a wow crash through addons before |
| 10:23.55 | Tupsi | the usualy bugsack entries here and there ok, but no crash |
| 10:32.36 | *** join/#wowace Royal (n=m@cp291458-b.landg1.lb.home.nl) |
| 10:33.42 | *** join/#wowace bindi (n=indigo@d54C68DEA.access.telenet.be) |
| 10:37.54 | Punkie` | I love this website 14% of the week, http://isitfriday.net ;D |
| 10:38.04 | apl | there was a bug in PitBull causing wow to crash? |
| 10:38.47 | ckknight | yes. |
| 10:38.49 | ckknight | there was |
| 10:38.56 | ckknight | keyword: was |
| 10:39.04 | apl | hmm |
| 10:39.12 | apl | no wonder I've been crashing lately |
| 10:39.16 | ckknight | basically, if you made a group |
| 10:39.20 | ckknight | and someone left the group |
| 10:39.24 | ckknight | and then the group disbanded |
| 10:39.28 | ckknight | WoW would crash |
| 10:39.49 | ckknight | lol, Stephmw's right. |
| 10:40.27 | apl | ckknight: sounds about what I experienced |
| 10:40.38 | apl | usually happened when I left arena |
| 10:40.42 | ckknight | right |
| 10:40.45 | apl | and the arena raid was disbanded |
| 10:40.46 | ckknight | very prevalent in arena and BG |
| 10:41.35 | apl | still strange that an addon could cause a NULL dereference |
| 10:41.35 | ckknight | *thumbs up* |
| 10:41.35 | ckknight | it had to do with secure frames messing things up |
| 10:41.58 | apl | pitbull is very nice btw, keep up the good work |
| 10:41.59 | *** join/#wowace [ND] (n=andy@h062040167062.gun.cm.kabsi.at) |
| 10:42.03 | Stephmw | apl: poor QA on Blizz's side - it happens |
| 10:42.30 | AKX | My Chatr addon used to crash WoW before... 1.12? |
| 10:44.20 | Kirkburn|afk | Fixed in 2.1? |
| 10:44.40 | *** join/#wowace Adys2010 (n=Miranda@APoitiers-256-1-128-189.w90-30.abo.wanadoo.fr) |
| 10:53.11 | *** join/#wowace _DvdKhl_ (i=DvdKhl@p508A632A.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 10:53.58 | CIA-31 | 03gandharva * r33883 10FuBar_PerformanceFu/ (16 files in 2 dirs): |
| 10:53.59 | CIA-31 | FuBar_PerformanceFu: |
| 10:53.59 | CIA-31 | - deDE localization |
| 10:53.59 | CIA-31 | - moved localization files to /locales |
| 11:00.56 | CIA-31 | 03gandharva * r33884 10FuBar_PerformanceFu/ (. locales/PerformanceFuLocale-deDE.lua): FuBar_PerformanceFu: bad comma! |
| 11:03.18 | *** join/#wowace kovi (i=kov@p5081e19d.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 11:05.12 | CIA-31 | 03gandharva * r33885 10Mendeleev/Set_Instances_61-70.lua: |
| 11:05.12 | CIA-31 | Mendeleev: |
| 11:05.12 | CIA-31 | - Prince Kael'thas Sunstrider -> Kael'thas Sunstrider since it got changed in BB |
| 11:14.26 | CIA-31 | 03gandharva * r33886 10FuBar_PerformanceFu/locales/PerformanceFuLocale-frFR.lua: FuBar_PerformanceFu: frFR localization - thanks to Zindjorl |
| 11:17.05 | *** join/#wowace ven (i=ven@i59F55FBD.versanet.de) |
| 11:17.12 | Kirkburn|afk | I don't suppose anyone knows where ChatFontSmall is used in 2.1? |
| 11:17.13 | Kirkburn|afk | http://wdn.wowinterface.com/detail/0106592/live/57 |
| 11:20.32 | Kirkburn|afk | nvm, found out, Blizzard_CraftUI.xml and Blizzard_TradeSkillUI.xml |
| 11:20.43 | Kirkburn|afk | (not that makes any sense to me) |
| 11:23.24 | clad|sleep | lol ' |
| 11:26.55 | CIA-31 | 03damjau * r33887 10WhoDrop/ (WhoDrop.Locales.lua WhoDrop.lua WhoDrop.toc WhoDropData.lua): WhoDrop - correct data, fix autosearch func |
| 11:29.45 | *** join/#wowace [dRaCo] (i=drc@p5485a01a.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 11:31.43 | Kirkburn|afk | Looks like it's time for the return of CanSetFont :P |
| 11:32.13 | Kirkburn|afk | (I can't add the new 2.1 change without checks for existence) |
| 11:34.19 | CIA-31 | 03kirkburn * r33888 10ClearFont2/ (Changelog.txt Core.lua Design.lua Readme.txt): |
| 11:34.19 | CIA-31 | ClearFont2: |
| 11:34.19 | CIA-31 | * Various updates to documentation and comments |
| 11:34.19 | CIA-31 | * Added a new 2.1 style with existence check |
| 11:34.53 | Kirkburn|afk | ^ Needs localizing! :( |
| 11:35.09 | Kirkburn|afk | ooh, I know, I could poke Adys :P |
| 11:35.18 | Adys | >> |
| 11:35.29 | Adys | give me the files sweety ill do that |
| 11:36.13 | Kirkburn|afk | http://www.wowace.com/files/ClearFont2/ClearFont2-r33827.3.zip |
| 11:36.30 | *** join/#wowace evl (n=fuckoff@gw.apt.no) |
| 11:36.44 | Kirkburn|afk | That's not quite the latest, but it'll do (33888 should appear here soon http://files.wowace.com/ClearFont2/) |
| 11:37.04 | haste | why not use ths svn :) ? |
| 11:37.37 | Kirkburn|afk | Crazy talk! |
| 11:38.12 | Kirkburn|afk | Er, yeah, Adys, http://svn.wowace.com/wowace/trunk/ClearFont2/Core.lua |
| 11:39.10 | Adys | 13:37:57 Total time played: 286 days, 6 hours, 23 minutes, 1 seconds |
| 11:39.12 | Adys | gah |
| 11:39.31 | Kirkburn|afk | hehe |
| 11:40.19 | haste | I have like... 100 days played on all my chars I think |
| 11:40.33 | Adys | im prob over 300 counting mules |
| 11:40.35 | haste | or 150ish top |
| 11:41.54 | haste | or 161 total |
| 11:42.30 | Kirkburn|afk | I'm barely around 60, I reckon |
| 11:42.54 | haste | most of my time played is idling / writing add-ons or raiding |
| 11:42.59 | nevcairiel | i have 191 on my main |
| 11:43.26 | nevcairiel | i dunno how long ive been on "dont bother me"-alts while coding |
| 11:43.38 | haste | I have 11 days on a L6 char =\ |
| 11:44.22 | Pneu | :s 15g respec and 100g on new ranks of talented spells |
| 11:45.12 | haste | can't be |
| 11:45.17 | Pneu | only 190 days over all my chars |
| 11:45.36 | CIA-31 | 03nevcairiel * r33889 10PitBull/PitBull.lua: |
| 11:45.36 | CIA-31 | PitBull |
| 11:45.36 | CIA-31 | - added Square option to Party* Unit Frames, allowing a square layout. |
| 11:45.36 | CIA-31 | - differentiate between vertical and horizontal spacing, if you used grow left/right, you might need to adjust the setting again. |
| 11:46.11 | Kirkburn|afk | Gotta love the copyright stuff at the end of my BSG DVD ... "Piracy supports terrorism!" "Piracy will destroy the entire media industry!" "Piracy is run by sweaty fat blokes with evil grins on their faces and a hot poker in their hand!" "Piracy will destroy our development and way of life!" |
| 11:47.27 | [r1-Fox] | "If you support piracy, the USA will evade your country and bring democracy to your folks!" |
| 11:47.34 | [r1-Fox] | invade, not evade |
| 11:47.35 | [r1-Fox] | >:C |
| 11:48.10 | nevcairiel | we are supposed to have the best democracy out there.. wonder what would happen |
| 11:51.59 | *** join/#wowace Worf (n=worf@85-124-201-199.dynamic.xdsl-line.inode.at) |
| 11:54.22 | CIA-31 | 03roartindon * r33890 10Aloft/ (Extras/Presets.lua Modules/CommentData.lua): |
| 11:54.22 | CIA-31 | Aloft |
| 11:54.22 | CIA-31 | - Changed db namespace of comment to commentData for consistency |
| 11:54.22 | CIA-31 | - Small simplification of Presets |
| 11:58.11 | yacoob | [r1-Fox], evade? too much wow :P |
| 11:59.25 | [r1-Fox] | :< |
| 11:59.26 | *** join/#wowace Kinkx (i=bleh@70.80-203-37.nextgentel.com) |
| 12:07.59 | *** join/#wowace Stylpe (n=chatzill@108.84-48-174.nextgentel.com) |
| 12:08.11 | Stylpe | !seen pprovost |
| 12:08.12 | Diao | PProvost!n=PProvost@WoWUIDev/WAU/Admin/Pprovost was last seen 3 day 4 hr 14 min 2 s ago on #wowace |
| 12:08.35 | Stylpe | Perl changed her name?!? |
| 12:08.39 | Stylpe | *Purl |
| 12:09.36 | Stylpe | Hm, no, Purl's still here |
| 12:09.42 | nevcairiel | ~ works for purl |
| 12:09.48 | nevcairiel | ~seen pprovost |
| 12:10.29 | purl | pprovost <n=PProvost@WoWUIDev/WAU/Admin/Pprovost> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 5d 8h 33m 3s ago, saying: 'Has anyone else noticed that Baggins bag editing menus can hork Tablet for all other addons? It is quite interesting.'. |
| 12:10.30 | Stylpe | ah |
| 12:10.30 | nevcairiel | ~botslap |
| 12:10.39 | purl | Hey what was that for, nevcairiel? |
| 12:10.39 | Stylpe | So anyway, anyone else here using PitBull with the Buu layout? |
| 12:10.52 | nevcairiel | purl, that was for your lazyness :P |
| 12:11.35 | CIA-31 | 03roartindon * r33891 10Aloft/Extras/Presets.lua: Aloft: Presets - since it doesn't seem to screw up if specified textures do not exist, we'll set some textures in our presets too.... |
| 12:11.39 | *** join/#wowace Garns (n=blub@muedsl-82-207-213-026.citykom.de) |
| 12:12.29 | Roartindon | Hi Stylpe.. I posted a reply to your comment on the Aloft thread |
| 12:12.40 | Stylpe | ^_^ |
| 12:13.26 | Stylpe | Read it. Could I just post the relevant bits from the save file? It's full of all the names of characters and stuff. |
| 12:13.42 | Roartindon | yeah, I dno't need any of the classData/guild data/etc |
| 12:13.44 | mitch0 | what exactly do ppl use spakle for? I mean, is that information really so essential? (I'm not bashing it, but I think I'm missing out on something) |
| 12:14.10 | Stylpe | Also, seems like some of the info is stored twice, old save table layout perhaps? |
| 12:14.30 | *** join/#wowace pahvir (i=pahvir@dyn-203-76-dsl.vsp.fi) |
| 12:15.22 | Stylpe | There's ["profiles"] and there's ["namespaces"] |
| 12:15.24 | Roartindon | Old save tables, yeah. |
| 12:15.38 | Stylpe | Which one is safe to remove? |
| 12:15.53 | Roartindon | neither, namespaces are where all the module data is stored |
| 12:16.58 | Roartindon | it looks something like: namespaces.<module namespace>profiles. .... |
| 12:17.32 | Stylpe | Well, the data in profiles doesn't match my current settings |
| 12:17.55 | Roartindon | oh, you have a top level profiles ? |
| 12:18.01 | Stylpe | Yes |
| 12:18.06 | Roartindon | That is all irrelevantn ow, and has been for almost two weeks :) |
| 12:18.14 | Stylpe | doh! |
| 12:18.17 | *** join/#wowace Teomyr (n=teo@p54A36F62.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 12:18.19 | Roartindon | You can delete that all safely.. the profiles inside namespaces are the important ones |
| 12:18.43 | Stylpe | So, post in topic, or new thread? |
| 12:18.51 | Roartindon | in topic is fine |
| 12:19.08 | Stylpe | I'll just edit my last one and add the code =) |
| 12:19.48 | CIA-31 | 03roartindon * r33892 10AloftPresets/: AloftPresets: Empty directory for start of new project to contain additional collections of Aloft presets |
| 12:25.54 | Roartindon | Stylpe: Can you just dcc me your SV file? |
| 12:26.03 | Stylpe | Sure |
| 12:26.20 | Roartindon | next thing will be to see if I can receive DCCs properly :) |
| 12:27.48 | Stylpe | A note on the layout: It works well with different settings for health bar height, 4 px is very nice |
| 12:28.02 | Stylpe | think it's set to 8 now |
| 12:28.47 | Stylpe | wee im contributing |
| 12:29.59 | hugo | hi |
| 12:33.04 | *** join/#wowace jabels (n=chatzill@iu-itpo-vreris.itpo.iu.edu) |
| 12:33.45 | CIA-31 | 03roartindon * r33893 10AloftPresets/ (AloftPresets.toc Stylpe.lua): |
| 12:33.45 | CIA-31 | AloftPresets |
| 12:33.45 | CIA-31 | - Added first new preset - Stylpe |
| 12:33.52 | Roartindon | Stylpe: And it's in :) |
| 12:33.53 | Stylpe | Hooray! |
| 12:34.03 | *** join/#wowace jabels (n=chatzill@iu-itpo-vreris.itpo.iu.edu) |
| 12:34.07 | Stylpe | This is so cool |
| 12:34.22 | Stylpe | Ahh, I miss the old days when I had my own addon |
| 12:34.37 | Stylpe | wonder if Purl remembers it |
| 12:34.40 | Stylpe | ~kic |
| 12:34.58 | purl | it has been said that kic is KeepItCool, an addon by Stylpe that reminds you when your tradeskill cooldowns are up, with FuBar support. http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/fileinfo.php?id=4248 |
| 12:35.26 | Roartindon | does purl gather that data from somewhere? |
| 12:35.36 | nevcairiel | you have to feed him |
| 12:35.44 | Stylpe | She can, but I manually taught her that |
| 12:35.55 | Stylpe | It's a girl >:( |
| 12:36.05 | nevcairiel | that explains alot |
| 12:37.02 | Zicon | stylpe: You should make a new one, then. |
| 12:37.33 | Stylpe | Nah, FuBar_tcgTradeskills does the job just as well |
| 12:42.06 | *** join/#wowace Aii|work (n=aii@static-64-83-15-85.dsl.cavtel.net) |
| 12:44.05 | *** join/#wowace Morokolli (n=non3@dsl-trebrasgw1-feacfa00-37.dhcp.inet.fi) |
| 12:44.25 | *** join/#wowace chutwig (n=edmundrh@URDAV3.rutgers.edu) |
| 12:44.59 | Morokolli | is here enyone oline who can help me a little about with BigWings problem ? |
| 12:45.08 | jabels | tcg is my favorite of the many, many fubar tradeskill mods |
| 12:47.23 | sbu | ~mikma |
| 12:47.35 | purl | methinks mikma is an agitator but i love him anyway. also a whiner. |
| 12:47.41 | *** join/#wowace Royal (n=m@cp291458-b.landg1.lb.home.nl) |
| 12:47.41 | Morokolli | Can enoyne tell person who i need to ask about Bigwings bugs/fixs/repair/solutions ? |
| 12:47.56 | evl | yourself |
| 12:47.59 | evl | it's an opensource project :) |
| 12:48.14 | *** join/#wowace VII-Beherit (n=mc@p509172FA.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 12:48.16 | evl | but if that seems to daunting post it on the official thread on the forums |
| 12:48.17 | *** join/#wowace JoshBorke (n=Josh@r35h14.res.gatech.edu) |
| 12:48.19 | VII-Beherit | hi all |
| 12:48.25 | VII-Beherit | last sct change was: |
| 12:48.26 | VII-Beherit | r33767 | grayhoof | 2007-04-25 21:10:26 -0400 (Wed, 25 Apr 2007) | 1 line |
| 12:48.26 | VII-Beherit | Changed paths: |
| 12:48.26 | VII-Beherit | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:48.34 | CIA-31 | 03roartindon * r33894 10Aloft/Modules/HealthText.lua: Aloft: HealthText - simplified FULL tag to use newer suffix methods |
| 12:48.34 | Mikma | ~tryme |
| 12:48.36 | purl | ACTION spins the revolver, points it at mikma and fires. Click. |
| 12:48.44 | evl | Mikma: gg |
| 12:49.26 | VII-Beherit | now i get this errors |
| 12:49.26 | VII-Beherit | http://ace.pastey.net/18076 |
| 12:49.29 | chutwig | ~tryme |
| 12:49.30 | purl | ACTION spins the revolver, points it at SunTiger and fires. A whale named Theodore who is the size of a small country flies into the target's face |
| 12:49.42 | chutwig | ...oh |
| 12:49.57 | [r1-Fox] | poor whale :( |
| 12:50.11 | chutwig | he lived a long and full life |
| 12:51.18 | [r1-Fox] | and ended up in the face of SunTiger |
| 12:51.23 | *** join/#wowace kaiden (n=kaiden@c-71-197-188-78.hsd1.or.comcast.net) |
| 12:51.59 | *** join/#wowace beerke (n=beerke@5353E179.cable.casema.nl) |
| 12:53.15 | Roartindon | VII-Beherit: Looks like NameplatesLib is not hooking properly |
| 12:53.20 | *** join/#wowace nomenquis (n=philip@85.124.40.140) |
| 12:53.46 | *** join/#wowace Elkano (n=elkano@srbk-590fbeeb.pool.einsundeins.de) |
| 12:54.03 | Roartindon | Yeah, NameplatesLib isn't passing on values correctly. |
| 12:54.13 | nomenquis | Hi, would someone know if pitbull does support druidbar in some way? |
| 12:54.36 | Roartindon | VII-Beherit: I should use this opportunity to pimp out Aloft :) Check http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=5618.0 |
| 12:55.13 | [Ammo] | Morokolli: what bug? |
| 12:55.56 | *** join/#wowace Cairenn (n=Cairenn@MMOI/Administratrix/Cairenn) |
| 12:55.56 | *** mode/#wowace [+o Cairenn] by ChanServ |
| 12:56.42 | nomenquis | also, pitbull for some reason never displays hp values for mobs, does someone know if mobinfo2 should be enough or if there is something else that needs to be installed for it? |
| 12:56.52 | Roartindon | You need MobHealth3 |
| 12:56.57 | Roartindon | And a recent version of it |
| 12:57.11 | *** join/#wowace Jens (i=Jens@pdpc/supporter/active/Jens) |
| 12:58.03 | nomenquis | roartindon, thanks, gotta try that then |
| 12:59.34 | VII-Beherit | Roartindon thanks for the info |
| 13:01.22 | Groll | lool i'm dying from laughter :P http://forums.wow-europe.com/thread.html?topicId=285128865&sid=1&pageNo=1 |
| 13:03.00 | Roartindon | Shadowed: Ping |
| 13:03.10 | hugo | anyone know if there some ace2 unitframes that just enchance original blizard frames ? ;o |
| 13:03.33 | nomenquis | roartindon, works now, thanks a lot |
| 13:03.47 | Roartindon | nomenquis: yw |
| 13:04.02 | nomenquis | now if only something like druidbar would be implemented :) |
| 13:04.16 | *** join/#wowace Cheads (i=chead@0x535b9a7a.virnxx18.adsl-dhcp.tele.dk) |
| 13:04.42 | hugo | lol Groll |
| 13:04.47 | [r1-Fox] | nice Groll :> |
| 13:05.04 | hugo | yeah man, i want a backpack where do i put totems and walk with them ;d |
| 13:08.22 | Groll | reading the shammy forums are fun again :P |
| 13:08.46 | *** join/#wowace Ani| (n=Ani@86.56.51.7) |
| 13:11.07 | Groll | this one is hilarious aswell :P https://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=98892232&sid=1&pageNo=1 |
| 13:12.23 | *** join/#wowace nekoh (n=nekoh@pD9E00CBC.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 13:15.02 | kenlyric | nothing funny ever happened in the shaman forums. Stop lying. |
| 13:15.19 | Groll | kenlyric then u been blind.. read these two threads :D |
| 13:15.34 | yacoob | 5 https://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=98892232&sid=1&pageNo=1 |
| 13:15.35 | kenlyric | your first link was not funny. Your second link was not funny. Unless you're a shaman, I guess. |
| 13:15.38 | yacoob | urgh |
| 13:15.48 | Groll | kenlyric blah :P |
| 13:16.07 | evl | that shaman link is hilarious |
| 13:17.09 | Punkie` | I wish I could draw that well in paint dammit |
| 13:17.13 | Groll | lol |
| 13:17.20 | Punkie` | like this: http://www.esreality.com/files/placeimages/2007/54564-MageVsShaman.JPG |
| 13:17.25 | Punkie` | haha rocks |
| 13:18.36 | kenlyric | please eplain how this is a shaman specific issue? |
| 13:18.47 | Punkie` | lmao: http://img83.imageshack.us/my.php?image=stoneclawlo9.jpg |
| 13:18.58 | Groll | kenlyric no :) |
| 13:19.05 | Punkie` | i never said it was, they're just funny |
| 13:19.09 | *** join/#wowace doktoreas (n=geko@host232-190-dynamic.1-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) |
| 13:19.17 | *** join/#wowace Amian (n=Andre@cmr-208-97-77-34.cr.net.cable.rogers.com) |
| 13:19.48 | skylah | Hmm, could someone give any tips how I could actually controll surfaces addon ? |
| 13:20.13 | Punkie` | surfacecontrol? |
| 13:21.22 | skylah | ah, thanks |
| 13:23.18 | Roartindon | Should say !SurfaceControl |
| 13:23.27 | Roartindon | Being the noob I am, I didn't see it for ages :) |
| 13:23.34 | deltron | so what was up with all the mods that got updated last night? |
| 13:25.51 | *** part/#wowace Morokolli (n=non3@dsl-trebrasgw1-feacfa00-37.dhcp.inet.fi) |
| 13:27.44 | *** join/#wowace Chompers (n=Chomp@cpc1-cove7-0-0-cust955.brhm.cable.ntl.com) |
| 13:28.46 | Fisker- | i'm gonna get a quadcore soon :O |
| 13:29.48 | hugo | is theres some ace2 addon like better item count? that changes values like 1800 to 1.8k .. like ammo |
| 13:29.53 | JoshBorke | why? |
| 13:31.26 | Fisker- | me? |
| 13:31.57 | Chompers | yeah, why get a quadcore? |
| 13:32.04 | Fisker- | because i'm an attentionwhore |
| 13:32.34 | Fisker- | I also want it for whatever Valve has planned |
| 13:32.39 | Chompers | oooooh |
| 13:33.41 | Fisker- | with 4GB RAM of course |
| 13:33.51 | Fisker- | then no koreans can come and say "OH HI, I JUST UPGRADED YOUR RAM" |
| 13:34.16 | *** join/#wowace Andalia (i=xx@p54aca415.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 13:35.25 | kenlyric | I guess hyjal isn't really open yet... |
| 13:35.58 | Fisker- | it's pretty bugged on PTR currently |
| 13:36.08 | Fisker- | pretty fail they used cockblocks to release it later |
| 13:36.55 | nevcairiel | no-one can access it. |
| 13:37.17 | kenlyric | why are there blood elves in the alliance? |
| 13:37.55 | kenlyric | lol, they're night elves when you talk to them. |
| 13:38.11 | Fisker- | they're high elves |
| 13:38.50 | [Ammo] | they are the first against the wall when the Dun Morogh revolution comes |
| 13:38.52 | Fisker- | they're also fixing the high elves so they don't have blood elf eyes |
| 13:38.58 | Fisker- | in 2.1.0 |
| 13:39.03 | chutwig | some of the high elves are okay, other ones are broken |
| 13:39.18 | chutwig | like the ones in allerian stronghold looked okay but the ones in theramore have the green eyes |
| 13:39.41 | *** join/#wowace trh (n=hmmm@e179203053.adsl.alicedsl.de) |
| 13:45.10 | *** join/#wowace RaydenUni (i=bozartmp@137.112.248.221) |
| 13:45.19 | *** join/#wowace undu (n=a@c-78bae253.024-157-73766c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) |
| 13:45.26 | CIA-31 | 03ammo * r33895 10Chronometer/ (Chronometer.toc libs/): Chronometer: add Deformat, since SpellEvents needs it |
| 13:45.29 | *** join/#wowace undu (n=a@c-78bae253.024-157-73766c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) |
| 13:47.56 | Fisker- | anyone know why apache won't show a site when it's there? |
| 13:47.57 | Fisker- | :P |
| 13:48.12 | Roartindon | Fisker-: ACLs? |
| 13:48.35 | Fisker- | haven't done anything for that to matter i believe |
| 13:48.44 | *** join/#wowace Leialyn (n=unknown@p54b4cea0.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 13:48.54 | Fisker- | http://www.developersdevelopersdevelopers.dk/dkp/ |
| 13:49.02 | Fisker- | the kar-test folders just show up 404 here :/ |
| 13:49.21 | Roartindon | Gives me 404s too |
| 13:49.47 | [dRaCo] | clicking one of those folders forwards me to http://www.developersdevelopersdevelopers.dk/dkp/kar-test/listmembers.php |
| 13:50.03 | [dRaCo] | but there is no folder named kar-test ^^ |
| 13:50.13 | nevcairiel | yup, its a forward |
| 13:50.36 | [dRaCo] | yeah, that's not my point |
| 13:50.42 | Roartindon | This works: http://www.developersdevelopersdevelopers.dk/dkp/kar-test2/listmembers.php |
| 13:50.47 | Roartindon | This doesn't: http://www.developersdevelopersdevelopers.dk/dkp/kar-test/listmembers.php |
| 13:51.00 | *** join/#wowace FISKER_Q (i=ballmer@85.24.17.250.generic-hostname.arrownet.dk) |
| 13:51.00 | [dRaCo] | 'cause there is no kar-test. |
| 13:51.03 | Roartindon | yep |
| 13:51.09 | Saroz | nice domain Roartindon |
| 13:51.11 | FISKER_Q | oh lol |
| 13:51.14 | Roartindon | and it's forwarding to the non-existent forward |
| 13:51.22 | FISKER_Q | forgot to rename the script path in the config |
| 13:51.27 | [dRaCo] | ... |
| 13:51.46 | FISKER_Q | beginners mistakes ftw |
| 13:52.06 | FISKER_Q | Because our stupid work caches pages |
| 13:52.08 | [dRaCo] | now we can spy on your dkp |
| 13:52.12 | FISKER_Q | oooh |
| 13:52.16 | FISKER_Q | me so scared |
| 13:52.35 | nevcairiel | you better be! |
| 13:54.24 | [dRaCo] | wts information about fisker's dkp! |
| 14:01.12 | binder | How much do green gems vendor for in PTR? |
| 14:04.02 | *** join/#wowace Borked|Raider (n=jedirc@s-hjem.dhcp.kampsax.dtu.dk) |
| 14:04.32 | Borked|Raider | Hey, is there not an easy way to print an item to guildchat/raid given you have the ItemLink?= |
| 14:05.51 | *** join/#wowace geko_ (n=geko@host232-190-dynamic.1-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) |
| 14:07.00 | CIA-31 | 03elkano * r33896 10FuBar_RestFu/ (RestFu.lua RestFuLocals.lua): FuBar_RestFu: ctrl-clicking an alt or realm removes its data |
| 14:07.27 | CIA-31 | 03damjau * r33897 10NextStep/ (NextStep.lua NextStep.toc): NextStep: fix no factions error |
| 14:10.29 | *** join/#wowace RaydenUnicyclist (n=bozartmp@bozartmp.student.rose-hulman.edu) |
| 14:13.17 | VII-Beherit | is there in livewow a way to see the loading time and memory usage of my addons |
| 14:13.23 | VII-Beherit | so does warmup work? |
| 14:13.24 | CIA-31 | 03elkano * r33898 10ElkBuffBars/ (EBB_Bar.lua EBB_BarGroup.lua ElkBuffBars.lua): |
| 14:13.24 | CIA-31 | ElkBuffBars |
| 14:13.24 | CIA-31 | - lots of optimizations |
| 14:13.24 | CIA-31 | - alt-left clicking a buff/anchor will toggle the anchor for that group |
| 14:13.24 | CIA-31 | - if anchor is shown, empty groups will show a fake buff |
| 14:13.24 | CIA-31 | - added options to copy layout from another group |
| 14:13.26 | CIA-31 | - removed backdrop if anchor is shown and thus the margin around the groups; unfortunately empty groups will now again increase gap between groups |
| 14:14.07 | [r1-Fox] | yea layout copying <3 :> |
| 14:14.30 | Iceroth | Elkano, there's something weird about ebbs, it thinks motw is 60min spell - i've manually fixed it once already but it's there again |
| 14:14.43 | *** join/#wowace Xabin (n=raed@81-233-66-74-no120.tbcn.telia.com) |
| 14:16.22 | *** join/#wowace Kilroo (n=Jarentha@cpe-071-076-173-175.triad.res.rr.com) |
| 14:16.34 | VII-Beherit | is there in livewow a way to see the loading time and memory usage of my addons? |
| 14:17.18 | *** join/#wowace Lysithea (i=o@c-f14ee455.017-172-73746f34.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) |
| 14:17.38 | hugo | anyone know what code to put instead %X in prat , i would like 16:17 HH:MM formar (24hour) |
| 14:17.51 | hugo | format* |
| 14:18.17 | Iceroth | %H:%M |
| 14:18.51 | hugo | thanks |
| 14:19.27 | *** join/#wowace geko_ (n=geko@host232-190-dynamic.1-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) |
| 14:24.12 | hugo | prat is cool ;] |
| 14:25.27 | *** join/#wowace knarf- (n=knarf@87.239.71.35) |
| 14:26.01 | Killmore | what is the range of /combatlog ? |
| 14:26.08 | [Ammo] | default range |
| 14:26.08 | xlvii | any french people in here? :P |
| 14:26.11 | nevcairiel | depends on your setting |
| 14:26.39 | [Ammo] | you can't change that setting anymore |
| 14:26.40 | [Ammo] | doesn't work |
| 14:26.41 | [Ammo] | afaik |
| 14:26.50 | FISKER_Q | never worked |
| 14:26.59 | Killmore | and what is the default range ? 40y ? |
| 14:27.12 | [Ammo] | it did work |
| 14:27.19 | [Ammo] | 40 odd yeah |
| 14:27.20 | nevcairiel | can you change any events range now? |
| 14:27.30 | [Ammo] | they all nolonger work it seems |
| 14:27.35 | nevcairiel | damn |
| 14:27.41 | nevcairiel | so we are back to good syncing |
| 14:27.49 | FISKER_Q | from when it was first implemented it wasn't working for me |
| 14:27.50 | FISKER_Q | never |
| 14:27.52 | [Ammo] | well bigwigs always did good syncing |
| 14:27.57 | [Ammo] | that's because you touch yourself fisker |
| 14:28.08 | FISKER_Q | I remember because when bigwigs had the feature only i used bigwigs on our raids |
| 14:28.09 | *** join/#wowace Nickenyfiken (n=najklord@83.145.59.23) |
| 14:28.10 | nevcairiel | yeah, but i have to work on converting more and more people to bigwigs then |
| 14:28.19 | FISKER_Q | and i would miss the events when i went out of range |
| 14:28.27 | FISKER_Q | regardless of the setting |
| 14:29.47 | deltron | one feature I wish bigwigs had was the automagically notify when you start a pull and reply back in whispers |
| 14:30.01 | vhaarr | deltron: bla bla bla |
| 14:30.17 | nevcairiel | you two have a thing going there? |
| 14:30.17 | vhaarr | it's not going to do that, jeez |
| 14:30.29 | deltron | lol |
| 14:30.37 | FISKER_Q | only thing i wish for is the abillity to deafen other people's bigwigs |
| 14:30.40 | nevcairiel | I should write a standalone addon to do that |
| 14:30.41 | nevcairiel | somehow. |
| 14:30.45 | FISKER_Q | if it's not already in since i last complained about it |
| 14:30.48 | deltron | vhaarr: I use bigwigs instead of that other mod |
| 14:30.50 | [Ammo] | deltron: make a macro: /yell PULLING IN 10 SECONDS YOU LAZY RETARDS!; /bwcb 10 pulling! |
| 14:30.51 | vhaarr | nevcairiel: "somehow"? It's like 9 lines of code. |
| 14:31.06 | nevcairiel | i guess, but i am kinda lazy |
| 14:31.13 | nevcairiel | too much sun outside et al |
| 14:31.17 | vhaarr | bigwigs is not touching that shit |
| 14:31.20 | *** part/#wowace sun\ (n=sun@ARouen-152-1-102-223.w90-22.abo.wanadoo.fr) |
| 14:31.46 | deltron | hehe |
| 14:34.08 | nevcairiel | heh, the pitbull spark starts when i open my tradeskill window |
| 14:35.40 | vhaarr | lol |
| 14:35.55 | nevcairiel | at least it reminded me to disable it |
| 14:35.56 | deltron | what's spark? |
| 14:35.58 | *** join/#wowace Gandharva (n=Miranda@dslb-084-057-037-101.pools.arcor-ip.net) |
| 14:36.14 | nevcairiel | its a energy tic indicator for rogues |
| 14:36.20 | nevcairiel | shows FSR for mana classes iirc |
| 14:36.46 | deltron | FSR? |
| 14:36.51 | nevcairiel | five second rule |
| 14:37.17 | deltron | ah |
| 14:38.03 | Amian | is there an addon that shows a bar sortoff for global cooldown ? |
| 14:38.09 | [Ammo] | IceAge |
| 14:38.43 | VII-Beherit | ammo will you ever add resize options to cooldownmonitor frames? |
| 14:38.50 | VII-Beherit | like its for pf or mtf |
| 14:40.18 | [Ammo] | no |
| 14:40.30 | [Ammo] | damn I like 2 letter answers :) |
| 14:40.41 | [Ammo] | someone else can add it |
| 14:40.55 | VII-Beherit | damn |
| 14:40.59 | VII-Beherit | i like 4 letters too |
| 14:41.11 | [Ammo] | so much more you can say in 4 letters |
| 14:41.41 | [Ammo] | reason I'm not adding it is the current size fits well in my UI and I don't need another size :) |
| 14:41.53 | [Ammo] | where there is no need there is no incentive to fix |
| 14:43.09 | nevcairiel | yeah, new features generally only get written when the author needs them, or, when he get whined at enough to make the people shut up :P |
| 14:43.30 | *** join/#wowace Amadeo (n=amadeo@c-68-50-168-95.hsd1.md.comcast.net) |
| 14:43.44 | Amian | thx Ammo gona check it out |
| 14:44.08 | Amadeo | I don't trust PitBull anymore... |
| 14:44.14 | Amadeo | It ate my homework! |
| 14:44.26 | nevcairiel | thats what pitbulls do |
| 14:44.28 | nevcairiel | get used to it |
| 14:44.38 | Amadeo | I know, I see it on the news all the time :( |
| 14:44.47 | Amadeo | "Homework maimed by wild PitBull" |
| 14:45.52 | CIA-31 | 03ammo * r33899 10SimpleChatMods/antispam.lua: SimpleChatMods: add wowseller to antispam |
| 14:47.06 | *** join/#wowace JJSheets (n=jjsheets@74-136-100-20.dhcp.insightbb.com) |
| 14:49.06 | Amadeo | Sometimes I login WoW and my framerate is screwed up...have to exit all the way out and try again.. |
| 14:49.08 | Amadeo | Happen to anyone else? |
| 14:49.23 | [Ammo] | happens to me on a bad alt-tab |
| 14:49.30 | deltron | I get that with alt-tabbing all the time |
| 14:49.32 | [Ammo] | but tabbing back to another process and back to wow fixes that |
| 14:49.35 | deltron | I just alt-tab back in |
| 14:49.50 | JJSheets | I get strange graphics when I alt-tab, never frame rate problems. :) |
| 14:50.15 | deltron | I sometimes get this weird ass color rainbow halo around my screen when I alt-tab |
| 14:50.32 | JJSheets | what's a good IRC prgram to use from Ubuntu? |
| 14:50.38 | Sais | irssi? |
| 14:50.41 | deltron | irssi |
| 14:50.47 | Elkano | Iceroth: ping |
| 14:50.47 | JJSheets | k |
| 14:50.56 | JJSheets | Elkano, you get my botmail? |
| 14:50.57 | Stephmw | irssi |
| 14:51.03 | Sais | re framerate - I find it's affected while Windows sorts the swapfile out. |
| 14:51.05 | Elkano | JJSheets, yes I did |
| 14:51.07 | Stephmw | use in conjunction with SCREEN |
| 14:51.14 | Sais | aye. |
| 14:51.15 | deltron | screen pwns |
| 14:51.17 | Amadeo | hnm |
| 14:51.19 | Amadeo | everytime I log in |
| 14:51.30 | Amadeo | I wonder if an addon is killing my framerate |
| 14:51.57 | Sais | There's a profiling addon isn't there? ;) |
| 14:52.06 | VII-Beherit | everytime i meet shattrah i think ill should delete all addons |
| 14:52.14 | Elkano | JJSheets, but Epox already helped me a lot in improving some of my addons ^^ |
| 14:52.23 | *** join/#wowace Bam_DK (n=pervel@0x573c050d.boanqu2.broadband.tele.dk) |
| 14:52.42 | *** join/#wowace Worf (n=worf@85-124-201-199.dynamic.xdsl-line.inode.at) |
| 14:53.25 | Bam_DK | hello... will I receive a password by email after requesting SVN access? |
| 14:53.49 | JJSheets | Elkano, cool. I thought of something you could do anytime that situation happens, just supply: function(self) self:DoUpdates() end instead. revert it back when you're done testing. :) |
| 14:54.11 | Elkano | Iceroth: the problem with eg MotW is known but it seems to be a problem with Blizzard's API :/ I'm currently resetting the stored data on login to counter it at least a bit |
| 14:55.30 | CIA-31 | 03elkano * r33900 10ItemDB/: Created folder remotely |
| 14:56.48 | JJSheets | well, I'm off to setup irssi. bbl |
| 14:56.51 | *** part/#wowace JJSheets (n=jjsheets@74-136-100-20.dhcp.insightbb.com) |
| 14:57.23 | Amadeo | Sais: Yeah, I guess I'm gonna have to patch PTR and all that :( |
| 15:00.10 | Bam_DK | hmm |
| 15:00.23 | Amadeo | Al Gore is on Apple's Board of Directors? hahah |
| 15:00.43 | Bam_DK | :O |
| 15:00.55 | *** join/#wowace Funkeh` (n=funkydud@host81-129-151-238.range81-129.btcentralplus.com) |
| 15:01.14 | Funkeh` | hey |
| 15:01.22 | Amadeo | http://www.apple.com/pr/bios/bod.html |
| 15:01.28 | CIA-31 | 03elkano * r33901 10InventoryLib/ (InventoryLib-2.0/InventoryLib-2.0.lua InventoryLib.toc Libs/): InventoryLib-2.0: bringing this to a usable level |
| 15:02.07 | Bam_DK | hehe.. that title does stand out.. "Former vice-president of the United States" |
| 15:04.24 | *** join/#wowace MentalPower|ZZzz (i=MPower@WoWUIDev/Norganna/Administrator/MentalPower) |
| 15:06.05 | *** join/#wowace Cheads (i=chead@0x5731602e.virnxx18.adsl-dhcp.tele.dk) |
| 15:08.40 | CIA-31 | 03elkano * r33902 10InventoryLib/Libs/: InventoryLib-2.0: added GratuityLib external |
| 15:09.28 | Bam_DK | most probably sleeping but I will try again :) Do I get sent a password after requesting SVN access? |
| 15:09.51 | vhaarr | Bam_DK: Just wait, Kaelten is busy. |
| 15:10.08 | Bam_DK | ok it's no rush.. just wasn't sure how it worked |
| 15:10.34 | *** join/#wowace Xelotar (n=zealouta@dslb-084-062-161-101.pools.arcor-ip.net) |
| 15:10.49 | Xelotar | heyas |
| 15:10.55 | Xelotar | someone using icehud here? |
| 15:11.11 | *** join/#wowace evl (n=fuckoff@c85-196-101-98.static.sdsl.no) |
| 15:11.30 | Bam_DK | a little.. but not done too much customisation |
| 15:12.00 | *** join/#wowace nuoHep (i=nuoHep@85.192.55.242) |
| 15:12.19 | Xelotar | just trying to figure out how to get this little portrait in top left back with the new version of icehud |
| 15:12.49 | Bam_DK | haven't tried that sorry :( |
| 15:13.12 | CIA-31 | 03elkano * r33903 10ItemDB/ (7 files in 2 dirs): |
| 15:13.12 | CIA-31 | ItemDB: |
| 15:13.12 | CIA-31 | - initial commit to SVN |
| 15:13.12 | CIA-31 | - now uses InventoryLib for item scanning and client communication |
| 15:13.12 | CIA-31 | - optimized table usage |
| 15:13.13 | CIA-31 | - this isn't Ace2'ed itself, only uses libs |
| 15:14.22 | Bam_DK | guess it's still early in the US :P |
| 15:14.39 | Nickenyfiken | Oh ItemDB? |
| 15:17.39 | nevcairiel | Elkano: typo in your .toc :) |
| 15:17.44 | beerke | sounds almost something like tooltipexhange |
| 15:17.46 | nevcairiel | Libs\InventoryLib-2.0InventoryLib-2.0.lua |
| 15:18.36 | Xelotar | hmmmmmm i'm confused.... the old icehud had that option, but the new version doesn't show that option anymore :( |
| 15:19.41 | CIA-31 | 03elkano * r33904 10ItemDB/ (. ItemDB.toc): ItemDB: fixed typo in TOC |
| 15:19.48 | *** join/#wowace doktoreas (n=geko@host232-190-dynamic.1-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) |
| 15:20.19 | *** join/#wowace JJSheets (n=monorail@74-136-100-20.dhcp.insightbb.com) |
| 15:20.59 | JJSheets | I am not used to irssi. :p |
| 15:21.18 | chutwig | it definitely takes getting used to |
| 15:21.18 | Elkano | beerke, ItemDB is an addon that's around since 05/12 ^^ so most other 'borrowed' there ;) |
| 15:21.38 | chutwig | just remember ctrl-# to switch windows |
| 15:21.43 | chutwig | or /win close/left/right |
| 15:21.47 | Xelotar | yaaaay found it... |
| 15:21.50 | Bam_DK | isn't it a bit outdated then? |
| 15:21.52 | Elkano | and it's more like Ludwig than like tooltipexchange |
| 15:22.27 | *** join/#wowace |MoX|Padwa| (n=zoomjr@212.220.194.128) |
| 15:22.41 | JJSheets | If anybody points me to a GUI irc chatter that isn't teh suck like XChat, I might give that a try too, but not at the moment. :) |
| 15:23.00 | chutwig | xchat is pretty much the only game in town on linux |
| 15:23.11 | JJSheets | xchat blows the goat. |
| 15:23.26 | chutwig | it could always be worse |
| 15:23.58 | vhaarr | chatZilla |
| 15:24.19 | CIA-31 | 03elkano * r33905 10FuBar_ItemDBFu/ (FuBar_ItemDBFu.lua FuBar_ItemDBFu.toc): FuBar_ItemDBFu - adjusted for ItemDB 1.2 |
| 15:24.51 | JJSheets | does irssi provide any ping audio? |
| 15:25.09 | CIA-31 | 03elkano * r33906 10FuBar_FactionsFu/FuBar_FactionsFu.lua: FuBar_FactionsFu: supercat makes columns aligned |
| 15:25.48 | *** join/#wowace Ozzwald (n=Ozzwald@unreachable.vpi.net) |
| 15:25.53 | *** part/#wowace Ozzwald (n=Ozzwald@unreachable.vpi.net) |
| 15:26.39 | snirks | irssi is the best client ever |
| 15:27.13 | JJSheets | that doesn't answer my question. |
| 15:27.14 | Elkano | Bam_DK, only because it dates back that far doesn't mean it's outdated ^^ only the gui hasn't changed that much since back then ^^ |
| 15:27.14 | JJSheets | lol |
| 15:27.24 | snirks | JJSheets: i know, just had to say it |
| 15:27.31 | JJSheets | bah. |
| 15:27.45 | snirks | JJSheets: you dont need ping audio. all yuou need is bill gates and microsoft windows |
| 15:27.47 | Kilroo | I has a bucket. |
| 15:27.48 | renchap | JJSheets: it can if you configure your console |
| 15:27.49 | Bam_DK | yea hehe.. I just read what it did... I had the wrong idea :) |
| 15:28.11 | Elkano | Bam_DK: here's what it looked like back in WoW1.9: http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/full1677.jpg |
| 15:28.14 | *** join/#wowace geko_ (n=geko@host232-190-dynamic.1-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) |
| 15:28.29 | JJSheets | okay... well. I gotta get to work... I can tell I'll be hunting for a more intuitive IRC client tonight. :) |
| 15:28.33 | JJSheets | seeya |
| 15:28.35 | Elkano | didn't change much... basicaly merged both tabs and added item levels |
| 15:28.50 | Bam_DK | nice use of the AH UI |
| 15:28.53 | snirks | you are sexy |
| 15:29.03 | nevcairiel | heh searching items based on the auction UI is great |
| 15:29.37 | Bam_DK | how does it do it? Just calls GetItemInfo and hopes to get a result? |
| 15:29.58 | Elkano | well, it only looks like the auctionUI ^^ |
| 15:30.04 | Funkeh` | isn't that what they all do? |
| 15:30.17 | Funkeh` | 'hope for a result' |
| 15:30.18 | Elkano | and yes, I basicaly call GetItemInfo for all ids between 1 and 40k |
| 15:30.31 | Bam_DK | well most start with an itemId they expext to be valid :) |
| 15:30.39 | Bam_DK | if I could spell... |
| 15:31.17 | Elkano | but the results are cached after the first crawl and it will crawl slower there after and only those id's that haven't been found, yet |
| 15:31.25 | *** join/#wowace Tem (n=tardmrr@WoWUIDev/WoWI/Dongle/Tem) |
| 15:31.25 | *** mode/#wowace [+o Tem] by ChanServ |
| 15:31.56 | Elkano | the filters are the return values from GetItemInfo so some items are in different cats then in the AH |
| 15:32.13 | Bam_DK | so right after server restart, there will not be many items to search :P |
| 15:32.50 | Bam_DK | umm... apart from the cached ones... |
| 15:33.32 | Amadeo | hm |
| 15:34.24 | Amadeo | TabletLib 59MS/s |
| 15:35.05 | Amadeo | is that high? |
| 15:35.58 | Bam_DK | on the PTR? |
| 15:36.02 | Elkano | well, a patch will wipe your DB, server restart wont. it also keeps track of items seen this session since these are safe for linking. these will be shared between users in the guild/group |
| 15:36.24 | *** join/#wowace gerber^Cavisup (n=Jon@c-71-200-85-204.hsd1.md.comcast.net) |
| 15:36.55 | Bam_DK | ah nice... LootLink on steroids |
| 15:36.57 | Nickenyfiken | Sounds good |
| 15:37.08 | *** join/#wowace pub^ (n=pub@cdubray.csbnet.se) |
| 15:38.02 | Bam_DK | bah just gave it a try... seems InventoryLib is not in SAL |
| 15:38.26 | Amadeo | I'm just trying to figure out what's killing my framerate |
| 15:39.18 | Tornhoof | addons won't impact framerate that much |
| 15:39.31 | Amadeo | something seems to be |
| 15:39.40 | Elkano | well, only that my new sharing code hasn't been tested yet :/ old one was based on a global channel and transfering links via whispers. now I'm using the addon channels and only transfere itemids. this is dangerous since someone could spoof an id and disconnect his whole guild but I'm trusting the users ;) |
| 15:39.55 | *** join/#wowace Gaurong (n=ilovemrd@194-247-236-142.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com) |
| 15:39.55 | Tornhoof | hrhr |
| 15:40.02 | *** join/#wowace bladlus (n=Batos@193.69.144.170) |
| 15:40.08 | Tornhoof | no what's the name of that addon you wrote elkano? |
| 15:40.09 | Tornhoof | *fg* |
| 15:40.28 | Elkano | Bam_DK, well, I'm not using SAL and since InventoryLib is my own lib and besides me most likely noone uses it... ;) |
| 15:40.30 | deltron | elkbuffbars? |
| 15:40.48 | Bam_DK | oh ok... then I have to change my script :) |
| 15:40.56 | *** join/#wowace tGc|oO7 (n=oO7@dsl51B6050C.pool.t-online.hu) |
| 15:40.57 | Tornhoof | wasn't there some issue with cross server battlegrounds and item ids not on the server? |
| 15:41.02 | Elkano | Tornhoof, which one? ElkBuffBars? ItemDB? FactionsFu? FriendsFu? GuildFu? ItemListFu? |
| 15:41.03 | tGc|oO7 | hi all |
| 15:41.20 | Tornhoof | the one where i can disco my guild :) |
| 15:41.36 | tGc|oO7 | i am searching a bar like ReactionBar! please help me somebody about it |
| 15:41.38 | Elkano | ItemDB/InventoryLib |
| 15:41.42 | Bam_DK | 13305 items :) |
| 15:42.51 | Elkano | Tornhoof: "problem" is that I'm requesting a tooltip for items not in cache in order to have them cached if someone told me they are safe |
| 15:43.01 | Bam_DK | red icons mean "unsafe"? |
| 15:43.11 | Tornhoof | i know elkano |
| 15:43.20 | Tornhoof | but i remember some problem with the bg servers |
| 15:43.40 | Elkano | Bam_DK: yes, meaning not yet known as valid... but often linking them is still safe |
| 15:43.45 | Tornhoof | where an item was displayed there but would disco you on the normal server |
| 15:44.08 | Elkano | Tornhoof, I asked abou that when x-server bgs went live and noone could tell me :/ |
| 15:44.21 | Bam_DK | requesting a tooltip is more dangerous than linking? |
| 15:44.45 | Tornhoof | ah well i guess that's where i had the discussion from |
| 15:44.59 | tGc|oO7 | where can i find a mod like ReactionBar ? |
| 15:44.59 | Elkano | Bam_DK, tooltips come from your cache if the item is cached |
| 15:45.07 | tGc|oO7 | an autoswitcher actionbar |
| 15:45.09 | Bam_DK | ah |
| 15:45.09 | tGc|oO7 | by range |
| 15:45.29 | nevcairiel | switching by range is impossible now |
| 15:45.31 | Bam_DK | dont think that can be done safely anymore |
| 15:45.42 | tGc|oO7 | ;( |
| 15:45.49 | Elkano | but requesting the tooltip for uncached items will have the same effect as linking them: forcing a check by the server that could result in a disconnect |
| 15:45.59 | Bam_DK | yea |
| 15:46.28 | Bam_DK | I often wondered about the reason for that change... were the servers being overloaded with datamining? |
| 15:46.34 | Elkano | Tornhoof: http://www.wowinterface.com/forums/showthread.php?t=6210 ;) |
| 15:46.36 | Tornhoof | datamining |
| 15:46.37 | tGc|oO7 | and if i don't change the actionbars by the range... but by the type of the weapon ? |
| 15:46.53 | Tornhoof | mining items not yet ingame |
| 15:46.58 | Elkano | /lick FISKER_Q |
| 15:46.59 | Bam_DK | ah hmm... they could have hidden those... I suppose |
| 15:47.01 | Tornhoof | on armory they don't enable every item either |
| 15:47.08 | Tornhoof | they enable those dropped |
| 15:47.10 | Tornhoof | and looted |
| 15:47.17 | Tornhoof | and that every once awhile |
| 15:47.19 | nevcairiel | so what was bit x-realm bgs.. i see somene in av with atiesh .. never finished on my realm, i link it and i disco? |
| 15:47.21 | Bam_DK | ok that would be more difficult |
| 15:47.48 | Tornhoof | afaik no nev, since the quest allows them to see the result? |
| 15:47.56 | nevcairiel | or even better, i link it, people click it and they disco ? :P |
| 15:48.07 | Bam_DK | only your teammates :) |
| 15:48.08 | Elkano | nevcairiel, that's the question since when you are in the bg you could link it to your guild by normal ingame means |
| 15:48.14 | FISKER_Q | Tornhoof pretty weird that there was an unfinished item on the armory then |
| 15:48.22 | FISKER_Q | Someone found a drop or something from Kael'Thas |
| 15:48.23 | Tornhoof | yah |
| 15:48.28 | FISKER_Q | named "Kael'Thas tanking neck" or similar |
| 15:48.42 | Tornhoof | yeh i know |
| 15:48.42 | Chompers | whats the name of that wow website everyone here likes? |
| 15:48.42 | Tornhoof | it's still ther |
| 15:48.42 | nevcairiel | Elkano: pretty hard to track down tho. you have to get a item which really never ever existed on your realm. |
| 15:48.43 | Tornhoof | e |
| 15:48.45 | Chompers | they have pictures of all the ptr stuff |
| 15:49.00 | gaurong | www.mmo-champion.com ? |
| 15:49.02 | Tornhoof | i just noticed it while parsing the armory |
| 15:49.05 | Chompers | thats the one! |
| 15:49.07 | Chompers | cheers |
| 15:49.08 | Elkano | funniest item I ever had in my db: http://www.wowhead.com/?item=192 |
| 15:49.15 | Tornhoof | many holes in the armory, filled in later |
| 15:49.27 | Bam_DK | hehe... GM item |
| 15:49.27 | nevcairiel | you did get that into a working DB ? |
| 15:49.29 | FISKER_Q | haha |
| 15:49.30 | Tornhoof | lot's of amusing things going on there anyway |
| 15:49.41 | FISKER_Q | excellent display of their poor commenting system |
| 15:49.42 | Tornhoof | yes i parsed the armory items in a working db |
| 15:49.43 | Bibi`ouF | yes, this site is great. |
| 15:49.49 | Elkano | nevcairiel, someone actually linked it on my server, yes |
| 15:49.54 | Bibi`ouF | good choice Chompers ! |
| 15:49.59 | Bam_DK | I remember there was a fake item once that spread out to thottbot and alla |
| 15:50.01 | Bibi`ouF | you should advertise it everywhere, for free. |
| 15:50.28 | Tornhoof | and honestly nev, the item xml format in armory is fucked |
| 15:50.29 | Antiarc|Work | Heheheh |
| 15:50.43 | FISKER_Q | I think the twin blades of azzinoth is fake |
| 15:50.45 | *** join/#wowace Daemona (n=koaschte@p548D7E89.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 15:50.46 | FISKER_Q | if i remember correctly |
| 15:50.53 | Bibi`ouF | technically, they're not |
| 15:51.00 | nevcairiel | they do exist |
| 15:51.05 | FISKER_Q | Lorewise yes |
| 15:51.08 | nevcairiel | but not reachable in any way. |
| 15:51.23 | nevcairiel | and when they will be available, they will be tuned down :P |
| 15:51.28 | FISKER_Q | But i believe the version on the item db's weren't from any blizzard source |
| 15:52.04 | Bam_DK | ohh you have Gems already in the list... faster than Blizzard :) |
| 15:52.15 | *** join/#wowace rophy (n=Miranda@220-132-204-186.HINET-IP.hinet.net) |
| 15:52.20 | Bibi`ouF | well |
| 15:52.25 | Bibi`ouF | the set was included in the 2.1.0 patch |
| 15:52.52 | FISKER_Q | damn |
| 15:53.14 | FISKER_Q | i didn't get B& |
| 15:53.17 | Bibi`ouF | http://www.thottbot.com/test?set=699 |
| 15:53.33 | nevcairiel | btw, do other classes get fun weapons for the kaelthas fight too ? :P |
| 15:53.59 | FISKER_Q | I wrote a ticket with like: "Hey i just exploited your terrain to get outside the instance map, after not seeing anything cool i decided to become an hero and commit suicide, but your crappy instance map made me stuck in midair" |
| 15:54.00 | Elkano | Bibi`ouF, 2.1 twin blades ~= artefact twin blades |
| 15:54.29 | FISKER_Q | yarr |
| 15:54.34 | Bibi`ouF | Elkano : that's my point |
| 15:54.39 | *** join/#wowace RLD_osx (n=rldempse@66-169-191-207.dhcp.ftwo.tx.charter.com) |
| 15:54.41 | *** join/#wowace moonsorrow (n=moonsorr@HSI-KBW-085-216-057-070.hsi.kabelbw.de) |
| 15:54.41 | Bibi`ouF | they're not the same |
| 15:54.45 | Bibi`ouF | item ID are different |
| 15:54.53 | Tornhoof | if you actually care nev, http://wowequipoptimizer.googlecode.com/svn/trunk/wowequipoptimizer/ and don't look at the item parsing code, the actual xsd schema code is fine though ;) |
| 15:55.02 | FISKER_Q | and i still think that the blades of azzinoth were created on a public test server and then uploaded |
| 15:55.10 | FISKER_Q | public test esrver = private test server |
| 15:55.11 | FISKER_Q | of coruse |
| 15:55.15 | Bam_DK | heh.. I was so bored once that I swam all the way around Azeroth... there are some places where the graphics needs more work :P |
| 15:55.26 | Bibi`ouF | FISKER_Q : as I said, it's in the patch |
| 15:55.27 | Bibi`ouF | :) |
| 15:55.41 | FISKER_Q | yeah i didn't say it was there |
| 15:55.45 | Bibi`ouF | it's currently included in the ItemSet.dbc |
| 15:56.19 | FISKER_Q | I just said that the current known version, the one known from allakhazam, wowhead and whatever isn't from a credible source but rather a private server before they effectively removed the private servers |
| 15:56.31 | Bibi`ouF | the artifact one are fake/GM items yeah |
| 15:56.39 | Bibi`ouF | 699The Twin Blades of Azzinoth00000004128894328383283700000000000000041434414330000002200000000 |
| 15:56.44 | Bibi`ouF | but these one arent :p |
| 15:56.53 | FISKER_Q | Found the model yet? |
| 15:57.03 | FISKER_Q | *hopes for pandas* |
| 15:57.08 | Bibi`ouF | not sure |
| 15:57.09 | Mikma | GM itemz <3 |
| 15:57.54 | FISKER_Q | I wonder how people get to see a gm with martin thunder and all that stuff though |
| 15:58.20 | *** join/#wowace Gandharva (n=Miranda@dslb-084-057-037-101.pools.arcor-ip.net) |
| 15:58.25 | *** join/#wowace Hjalte (i=Hjalte@0x573078f3.svgnxx3.adsl-dhcp.tele.dk) |
| 15:59.32 | Tornhoof | anyway you can do a few guesses on when some items were created |
| 15:59.46 | Tornhoof | the current alchemy stone has an itemid of 13xxx |
| 15:59.56 | *** join/#wowace Heri0 (n=kvermil@tiglon.ecst.csuchico.edu) |
| 16:00.37 | FISKER_Q | you don\t mean the trinket right_ |
| 16:00.38 | FISKER_Q | ? |
| 16:00.45 | FISKER_Q | stupid english keyboard layout :( |
| 16:00.52 | Bibi`ouF | the alchemy stone has been here for ever, and was datamined when you could still query item IDs even when the item wasn't activated on the server |
| 16:01.06 | Tornhoof | ya |
| 16:01.11 | Tornhoof | i mean the trinket |
| 16:02.41 | *** join/#wowace Kody- (n=nope@69.109.103.158) |
| 16:04.37 | Bam_DK | is there an IRC room for people discussing quests, instances and stuff like that? |
| 16:04.40 | *** join/#wowace vodrin (i=vodrin@cpc2-stre3-0-0-cust970.bagu.cable.ntl.com) |
| 16:05.34 | Bam_DK | I'm pretty new to IRC 9.9 |
| 16:06.33 | Heri0 | Bam_DK I'm sure there is, there's a lot of channels out there |
| 16:06.44 | Heri0 | and if there isn't you can make one =P |
| 16:06.50 | Bam_DK | hehe yea |
| 16:07.25 | Bam_DK | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:07.44 | Bam_DK | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:08.42 | deltron | Bam_DK: #wow on efnet is a good start I'm sure |
| 16:09.00 | Bam_DK | ok, so I'd have to change server? |
| 16:09.54 | Punkie` | just join a new one simultaneously |
| 16:10.01 | Heri0 | i think some clients can maintain multiple connections simultaneously |
| 16:10.04 | deltron | what client do you use? |
| 16:10.14 | Bam_DK | Colloquy |
| 16:10.50 | deltron | no clue what that is |
| 16:10.50 | Amadeo | Mac client |
| 16:10.50 | deltron | ah |
| 16:11.10 | Bam_DK | found it |
| 16:11.29 | Hjalte | Elkano, if you have time, I'd love to hear what makes ItemDB better than other item database addons? ;) |
| 16:12.05 | Bam_DK | lol that's not a room about world of warcraft |
| 16:12.18 | Heri0 | what is it about? |
| 16:12.24 | Heri0 | upsidedown moms? |
| 16:12.26 | deltron | Bam_DK: yeah it is lol |
| 16:12.41 | Bam_DK | lol ok not the current conversation for sure :P |
| 16:12.42 | Wobin | unless MS bought it out for Vista advertising |
| 16:12.47 | Tornhoof | deltron just sent you into the lair of the dragon |
| 16:13.22 | deltron | everyone's a little emo-y in that channel atm |
| 16:13.28 | Wobin | atm? |
| 16:13.37 | deltron | at this moment |
| 16:13.39 | Bam_DK | well there is a room that would be silent with a profanity filter on :P |
| 16:13.39 | Wobin | (not a request for definition) |
| 16:13.48 | deltron | lol |
| 16:13.59 | deltron | yeah it's very emo-y sometimes |
| 16:14.06 | Wobin | Hehe |
| 16:14.08 | Tornhoof | it's efnet after all |
| 16:14.16 | Wobin | They had a news report over here recently |
| 16:14.23 | Heri0 | news report? |
| 16:14.38 | Wobin | "How to protect your child from the horrible EMO people on the INTERNET" |
| 16:14.43 | Tornhoof | haha |
| 16:14.52 | CIA-31 | 03jncl * r33907 10Skinner/ (19 files in 2 dirs): (log message trimmed) |
| 16:14.52 | CIA-31 | Skinner: |
| 16:14.52 | CIA-31 | - Skinned ConcessionStand & Lightheaded |
| 16:14.52 | CIA-31 | - Updated PerlClassic for FocusTarget Frame |
| 16:14.52 | CIA-31 | - removed FuBar_GarbageFu from being skinned |
| 16:14.52 | CIA-31 | - MainMenuBar not skinned if Bongos is loaded |
| 16:14.54 | CIA-31 | - Frameresizer & cgCrafty bug fixed |
| 16:15.00 | *** join/#wowace Droolio (n=drool@87-194-188-170.bethere.co.uk) |
| 16:15.15 | Wobin | Cause all those emo people could convince your child to attempt suicide! |
| 16:16.19 | deltron | Bam_DK: they scared you off didn't the? |
| 16:16.21 | deltron | they* |
| 16:16.28 | *** join/#wowace kovi (i=kov@p5081E19D.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 16:16.42 | Bam_DK | hehe.. nah but just not in that mood atm :P |
| 16:17.26 | art3mis | thats what she said |
| 16:17.30 | art3mis | woooOOOOoooo |
| 16:17.52 | Bam_DK | I once looked at registering a domain name containing wow... I think every possible combination is taken lol |
| 16:18.02 | deltron | lol |
| 16:18.14 | deltron | art3mis: man you sound like my guild lol |
| 16:18.18 | Bam_DK | and they are NOT all about World of Warcraft |
| 16:18.25 | Wobin | how about www.omgwow.com? |
| 16:18.34 | deltron | heh there's a really bad one |
| 16:18.35 | Tornhoof | wownage.com is still free |
| 16:18.48 | deltron | don't go to this site if you value your job: wowtwinks.com |
| 16:18.54 | deltron | it's not about wow |
| 16:18.58 | deltron | or twinking in game |
| 16:19.14 | Wobin | ahah |
| 16:19.18 | Bam_DK | luckily I'm at home :P |
| 16:19.26 | Wobin | I think it would have been more disturbing if it -was- about world of warcraft |
| 16:19.26 | kenlyric | I bet I know what it is. |
| 16:19.31 | Wobin | like that wowsluts one |
| 16:19.39 | deltron | whorecraft |
| 16:19.40 | deltron | lol |
| 16:19.45 | Wobin | that's the bunny! |
| 16:19.59 | deltron | on that note, I am going to jimmy john's |
| 16:20.03 | kenlyric | I've never been really comfortable with the use of the word Twinks in wow because it's always had a completely different meaning... |
| 16:20.04 | deltron | mmmm food |
| 16:20.08 | Wobin | hehe |
| 16:20.09 | Elkano | Hjalte: well, besides Ludwig (which came after ItemDB) it's the only one that's soly based on the client's cahce and not on it's own DB. and wrt to the GUI, well, it's your decission if you like it ^^ |
| 16:20.19 | deltron | kenlyric: yeah that's always kinda cracked me up |
| 16:20.32 | deltron | kenlyric: but if you think about it, it's fairly true |
| 16:20.39 | kenlyric | the only twinks in wow are blood elf males. |
| 16:20.50 | Hjalte | Elkano, it says 10.000 known items - Hmm, any ideas where it got those from? |
| 16:20.50 | deltron | ok lunchtime |
| 16:20.51 | deltron | bbl |
| 16:20.53 | kenlyric | and even they got a little musclely. |
| 16:21.00 | Wobin | I always wondered about the breakdown of it, why 'twink' was chosen, I was thinking more 'sugar daddy/cabana boy' sort of name |
| 16:21.29 | Elkano | Hjalte, it uses GetItemInfo to look into your client's cache :) and thatone is filled by the game itself |
| 16:21.30 | Bam_DK | if you have anything like Auctioneer and do scanning, your cache will easily have that amount |
| 16:22.13 | Bam_DK | how long does it take to do the full scan in ItemDB? |
| 16:22.19 | Hjalte | Elkano, nice. Although it's giving me a lot of errors right now. I suppose it's not quite done yet :) |
| 16:22.45 | Elkano | it does? don't get any :/ |
| 16:22.48 | FISKER_Q | anyone know if PAE works |
| 16:22.53 | Bam_DK | fine here too |
| 16:23.00 | Elkano | wouldn't have put it live if it would |
| 16:23.01 | *** join/#wowace tardmrr (n=tardmrr@WoWUIDev/WoWI/Dongle/Tem) |
| 16:23.01 | *** mode/#wowace [+o tardmrr] by ChanServ |
| 16:23.18 | Hjalte | Hmm. Let me show them to you. Some of them at least. |
| 16:23.46 | Heri0 | "IF i had a nickel for everytime a man tried to have sex with me.... i could have built a house made out of nickels in the middle of the woods to secretly masturbate about men having sex with me" |
| 16:24.05 | Bam_DK | eh |
| 16:24.16 | Hjalte | Elkano, this is the first error in bugsack. Tell me if you want to see more; http://ace.pastey.net/18194 |
| 16:24.42 | *** join/#wowace chutwig (n=edmundrh@wg-206-hill012.rutgers.edu) |
| 16:25.43 | kenlyric | Wobin: twink. twinkie. Golden on the outside, creamy on the inside. |
| 16:26.16 | Wobin | well yes |
| 16:26.24 | *** join/#wowace nuoHep (i=nuoHep@85.192.55.242) |
| 16:26.24 | kenlyric | The More you Know |
| 16:26.30 | Wobin | but what has that to do with buying stuff for a younger alt? |
| 16:26.49 | deltron | ~define twink |
| 16:26.54 | purl | Use ~dict for definitions. |
| 16:26.54 | Wobin | BoyToy might be more appropriate |
| 16:26.59 | deltron | ah |
| 16:27.03 | deltron | ~dict twink |
| 16:27.17 | kenlyric | I don't really know the history of the word as it relates to MMOs |
| 16:27.21 | Wobin | yeah |
| 16:27.25 | kenlyric | since WoW is my first one. |
| 16:27.26 | Wobin | That's what I was questioning |
| 16:27.30 | deltron | wtb urbandictionary definition |
| 16:27.43 | Wobin | I know the history of the word as defined by everything else non-mmo |
| 16:28.18 | Bam_DK | it's only really because of the level-bracketed BGs that twinks exist |
| 16:28.27 | *** join/#wowace gaurong (n=ilovemrd@194-247-236-142.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com) |
| 16:28.48 | kenlyric | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Twinking |
| 16:28.52 | Wobin | PS George Takei rocks |
| 16:29.14 | Heri0 | wobin: yes he does |
| 16:29.24 | Heri0 | i watched wrath of khan last night |
| 16:29.35 | Heri0 | going to watch the search for spock tonight :O |
| 16:29.42 | chutwig | KHAAAAAAAAAAAAN |
| 16:30.09 | Heri0 | indeed |
| 16:30.16 | Wobin | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=54JdtwyQHFU |
| 16:30.30 | Wobin | best PSA ever |
| 16:30.35 | Wobin | (old, but still good) |
| 16:32.03 | kenlyric | man, I can't find anything on the web about it. |
| 16:32.47 | kenlyric | there's something... apparently it used to refer to someone who was clueless about the game. |
| 16:33.26 | art3mis | twink comes from the gay term started around 93 ish |
| 16:33.42 | Wobin | That's not very ... effective a definition |
| 16:33.43 | art3mis | a twink was a much younger prettier man that used to hang out with odler gay guys |
| 16:33.48 | Wobin | since a twink is anything but that |
| 16:33.55 | Wobin | (re kenlyric's) |
| 16:34.02 | Wobin | art3mis: nah |
| 16:34.05 | nevcairiel | lol wobin thats great |
| 16:34.08 | Wobin | art3mis: Just young and blonde |
| 16:34.11 | art3mis | and the older guy buys the "twink" pretty things and takes care of him |
| 16:34.20 | art3mis | thats more or less it... |
| 16:34.21 | kenlyric | actually, it is, because it's someone who relies on gear and not skill. |
| 16:34.25 | Wobin | Again, that's more a sugar daddy/cabana boy thing |
| 16:34.32 | Wobin | not a twink |
| 16:34.33 | art3mis | right its a synonym |
| 16:34.53 | Wobin | Twink is more a physical description than a social one |
| 16:34.55 | kenlyric | art3mis: we're trying to find some history to how those came to be related... or at least I am. |
| 16:35.00 | kenlyric | Wobin: no, it's both. |
| 16:35.15 | art3mis | although the young and blonde thing now that you say it that way makes sense |
| 16:35.24 | art3mis | twink short for twinkie golden and blonde ;P |
| 16:35.25 | kenlyric | I see the connection. I'm just more interested in how it came to be used in MMOs. |
| 16:35.37 | art3mis | becuase all twinks are fags ken |
| 16:35.54 | art3mis | "fucking fag twinks and thier mains giving them stuff" |
| 16:36.00 | Wobin | art3mis: hehe |
| 16:36.05 | art3mis | and it extrapolated from there |
| 16:36.08 | Wobin | That assumes a certain level of knowledge of gay slang though |
| 16:36.18 | Wobin | which isn't something most people who would make that remark would know |
| 16:36.19 | art3mis | you'd be surprised |
| 16:36.30 | kenlyric | in UO: A low skill player, using high level abilities (a 60/60 twink tamer would have 60 taming, 60 lore but be using dragons). Also a person who thinks they are good but they aren't; someone who has a very unorigional name like 'Goku'. |
| 16:36.33 | art3mis | most prolly use it and don't understand why |
| 16:36.37 | art3mis | kind of like pwned |
| 16:36.46 | art3mis | it was nothing more than a typo ;P |
| 16:36.56 | Wobin | It's like saying 'brutha' in a derogatory manner |
| 16:37.11 | art3mis | heh i actually had a convo with an old guy about that |
| 16:37.23 | art3mis | i live in brooklyn, but im canadian |
| 16:37.31 | Chompers | eh |
| 16:37.35 | CIA-31 | 03gagorian * r33908 10DrDamage/DrDamage.lua: |
| 16:37.36 | CIA-31 | DrDamage: |
| 16:37.36 | CIA-31 | -Minor optimization, made sure some variables aren't set to anything if it isn't needed. |
| 16:37.37 | Wobin | eh =) |
| 16:37.37 | Chompers | ;) |
| 16:37.48 | kenlyric | I've seen people try to back-define pwn to "pawn' :) |
| 16:37.54 | art3mis | asked this old black guy when exactly when brother becme nigger |
| 16:38.07 | art3mis | he just sat on the steps shook his head and said "i don't know" |
| 16:38.15 | *** join/#wowace nuoHep (i=nuoHep@85.192.55.242) |
| 16:38.16 | Wobin | kenlyric: That's a horrible backdefinition =P |
| 16:38.29 | kenlyric | most of them are. |
| 16:38.37 | art3mis | best arena name though is My Little Pwnies |
| 16:38.42 | Wobin | it's true |
| 16:38.44 | art3mis | full of twinks |
| 16:38.52 | Bam_DK | shows how some words can change over time to mean something completely different :P |
| 16:39.32 | art3mis | like fag and gay |
| 16:39.38 | kenlyric | it also shows a deep lack of understanding of how important pawns are in the game of chess. |
| 16:39.40 | art3mis | ive never understood where fag came from though |
| 16:40.40 | Bam_DK | it's also affected by non-English people using words they don't understand in the wrong way probably |
| 16:40.44 | art3mis | unless it was extended from the phrase "flesh cigar" which changed to "suck a fag" |
| 16:40.53 | Bam_DK | here in Europe at least |
| 16:41.22 | art3mis | heh that could be |
| 16:41.26 | art3mis | pesky euros and thier lack of latin and english skills ;P |
| 16:41.33 | Elkano | Wobin, ReverseEngi was yours, wasn't it? |
| 16:41.33 | art3mis | *shakes fist at the eastern bloc |
| 16:41.41 | Bam_DK | *grumble* |
| 16:41.48 | Bam_DK | <- Danish :P |
| 16:41.54 | Wobin | faggot: 1.[From the Latin word meaning bundle of sticks] A male homosexual.a term applied to gays during the Inquisition when they were burned along with witches. The first record use of the word faggot in the USA was, in reference to homosexuals, was 1914 in a vocabulary of criminal slang published in Portland Oregon. |
| 16:41.58 | art3mis | damn danes ;P |
| 16:41.59 | Wobin | Elkano: aye |
| 16:42.00 | Bam_DK | and no it's not something you eat!!! |
| 16:42.09 | art3mis | you and all yer castles and war boats and crazy people with axes |
| 16:42.13 | art3mis | heh |
| 16:42.17 | art3mis | illegal danish! |
| 16:42.24 | Bam_DK | hehe |
| 16:42.36 | *** join/#wowace Ominous (i=HydraIRC@85-210-154-228.dsl.pipex.com) |
| 16:42.39 | evl | Uhm, PitBull raid frames are being nutty, colors interchaning on updates etc. anyone else? :P |
| 16:42.48 | jaete | art3mis, Caesar si viveret, ad remum dareris |
| 16:42.50 | jaete | ;) |
| 16:43.05 | art3mis | okay thats just wrong |
| 16:43.05 | Elkano | well, I made it break: I limited displayed items to shoulder slot and RE didn't rescan resulting in broken ids ^^ |
| 16:43.18 | Bam_DK | vir prudens non contra ventum mengit |
| 16:43.19 | kenlyric | art3mis: generall, it devolved from the usage involving the type of person you would burn with a faggot of wood. Came to be a general abusive term about bitchy women and then effeminate men. |
| 16:43.20 | Wobin | yeah filtering makes it fall over |
| 16:43.32 | art3mis | oh |
| 16:43.38 | art3mis | well that makes sense |
| 16:43.55 | Wobin | Elkano: I tried making it unfilter on click, but it's not perfect |
| 16:44.11 | Bam_DK | from memory, might not be entirely correct :P |
| 16:44.27 | Wobin | even possibly not even working =) |
| 16:44.43 | CIA-31 | 03funkydude * r33909 10BigWigs/SC/Morogrim.lua: |
| 16:44.43 | CIA-31 | BigWigs: SC/Morogrim: |
| 16:44.43 | CIA-31 | - 36second grobule despawn timer |
| 16:45.04 | Elkano | Hjalte: it's most likely a problem with your KCItems ^^ |
| 16:45.16 | Elkano | Hjalte: which version of KCI are you running? |
| 16:45.57 | Hjalte | Elkano, oh, the beta from svn |
| 16:47.23 | Elkano | well, it's currently set to run with old 0.94+ :/ |
| 16:47.23 | Bam_DK | who is mainly responsible for AceOO? |
| 16:47.37 | Elkano | Hjalte: I don't know the new API so easiest fix for you would be to put -- in front of line 215 |
| 16:47.44 | pastamancer | not I, but what is your AceOO question? |
| 16:47.48 | Hjalte | I'll try and do that Elkano |
| 16:48.13 | Bam_DK | not a question... an enhancement suggestion that I've thought about :P |
| 16:48.26 | pastamancer | enchancement? |
| 16:48.37 | Bam_DK | yea new feature |
| 16:48.42 | pastamancer | do tell |
| 16:48.49 | kenlyric | art3mis: heh, I just found an awesome verb definition : To fasten together bars or rods of iron preparatory to reheating and welding. |
| 16:48.49 | Bam_DK | inspired by Ruby's method_missing() |
| 16:49.14 | Bam_DK | if a method/field cannot be found, it searched for a method_missing instance method |
| 16:49.21 | Wobin | kenlyric: What's the word? |
| 16:49.23 | Bam_DK | and passes the name of the missing field |
| 16:49.37 | kenlyric | faggot. |
| 16:49.44 | Bam_DK | that allows you to dynamically define fields and methods or do loads of other dynamic stuff |
| 16:49.47 | Wobin | to faggot =) |
| 16:49.52 | Bam_DK | like caching of attributes etc |
| 16:49.53 | kenlyric | and here's one from 1880 which seems relevant. a man who in the wrestling ring, sells his back, is said to faggot. |
| 16:50.08 | Wobin | sells his back? |
| 16:50.19 | Bam_DK | seems simple but I dont know how hard it would be to implement |
| 16:50.30 | kenlyric | english is a fun language, is all I got to say. |
| 16:51.34 | Bam_DK | the default behaviour would remain as today... only if you define method_missing would the magic occur |
| 16:51.41 | pastamancer | it would be a bit tricky due to how metatables are used to handle inheritence |
| 16:52.18 | Bam_DK | actually I think metatables can be considered a lot like method_missing in Ruby |
| 16:52.41 | art3mis | so wleders use faggots? |
| 16:52.44 | art3mis | welders |
| 16:52.48 | pastamancer | there are some similarities |
| 16:52.54 | art3mis | hehe i bet some of them would be very unhappy if they learned that ;P |
| 16:53.03 | Bam_DK | I made my own Class system before using AceOO and implemented it... but I know too little about AceOO to know if it would be feasible to implement |
| 16:53.40 | art3mis | i love my wife |
| 16:53.42 | CIA-31 | 03funkydude * r33910 10PeriodicTable-3.0/ (8 files in 8 dirs): |
| 16:53.42 | CIA-31 | PeriodicTable-3.0: |
| 16:53.42 | CIA-31 | - Item/Loot update |
| 16:53.42 | CIA-31 | - Remove magtheridon from heroic list |
| 16:53.53 | art3mis | she saw a billboard that reads "don't ever shake a baby" |
| 16:54.04 | art3mis | and immediately thought I want so badly to add a little thing below it "No matter what it sounds like, there's no good stuff inside, trust us" |
| 16:54.48 | Wobin | hehe |
| 16:55.01 | Bam_DK | I tried to implement very much Ruby's class system in Lua... but darn that wasn't eaysy :P |
| 16:55.01 | pastamancer | Bam_DK: take a look around line 540 in AceOO-2.0.lua |
| 16:55.08 | Bam_DK | ok |
| 16:55.20 | art3mis | hey |
| 16:55.27 | art3mis | that tankpoints and healpoints thing |
| 16:55.43 | pastamancer | also, you might find this interesting: http://community.schemewiki.org/?Tiny-CLOS |
| 16:56.05 | art3mis | think that would be a good basis for an addon that lists eq in yer inventory thats better than what you've got on ? |
| 16:56.08 | Bam_DK | yea looked at that before |
| 16:56.25 | art3mis | or is it a little kind of bias |
| 16:56.34 | Bam_DK | but don't really want something that doesn't integrate to Ace like AceOO does |
| 16:56.47 | pastamancer | porting tiny-clos to lua is on my "things to do eventually" list |
| 16:57.31 | Bam_DK | oh wait.. no havent seen that one... was thinking of another OO library in Lua |
| 16:59.05 | Hjalte | Elkano, commenting that line out. It works now :) |
| 16:59.18 | Bam_DK | problem with most Lua libs is that they often aren't pure Lua |
| 17:00.34 | FISKER_Q | i might like you Funkeh` |
| 17:00.43 | FISKER_Q | if that's you who made that |
| 17:01.34 | Funkeh` | made what |
| 17:01.38 | FISKER_Q | that commit |
| 17:01.39 | FISKER_Q | :o |
| 17:01.43 | Bam_DK | AceOO doesn't touch __newindex on instances... that's promising |
| 17:03.51 | Borked|Raider | Anyone know if theres any functions easy to make to write an itemlink to raidchat or guildchat based on the itemstring or itemLink? |
| 17:07.15 | Bam_DK | found it: http://loop.luaforge.net/ |
| 17:07.35 | *** join/#wowace Guillotine (n=Guilloti@ns.motek-services.com) |
| 17:08.21 | *** join/#wowace fleetfoot (n=fleetfoo@c-1de6e455.014-202-6e6b701.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) |
| 17:09.09 | Elkano | Hjalte: how do you like it? |
| 17:09.42 | Hjalte | Elkano, it's nice. I've been looking for something simple for some time. I really just need to be able to search for stuff. |
| 17:10.25 | Silviu- | ckknight, ping ? ;p |
| 17:10.30 | Elkano | wellm name search uses lua pattern, so sth like "^heavy.*leather$" would work ^^ |
| 17:11.05 | Elkano | and I'm thinking about having all items parsed by ItemBonusLib if the player wants in order to allow for stats search |
| 17:11.29 | Hjalte | Elkano, that would be really nice. |
| 17:12.05 | Bam_DK | how about also making a user-definable function for rating an item based on those stats |
| 17:12.07 | Elkano | but it would give a large hit on memory I think :/ so it wont do it by default and only on request |
| 17:13.00 | Hjalte | Hmm. Then maybe it's better not to. I wouldnt want it to become bloated :) |
| 17:13.20 | Bam_DK | modular = anti-bloat :P |
| 17:14.31 | Wobin | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:14.42 | Bam_DK | heh |
| 17:14.49 | *** join/#wowace Tupsi (n=Miranda@p54B213D0.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 17:16.05 | CIA-31 | 03helium * r33911 10Babble-2.2/Babble-Boss-2.2/Babble-Boss-2.2.lua: |
| 17:16.05 | CIA-31 | Babble-2.2: |
| 17:16.05 | CIA-31 | - updated zhTW locale |
| 17:16.32 | FISKER_Q | Wobin |
| 17:16.55 | Wobin | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:18.45 | CIA-31 | 03helium * r33912 10Mendeleev/locales/zhTW.lua: |
| 17:18.45 | CIA-31 | Mendeleev: |
| 17:18.45 | CIA-31 | - updated zhTW locale |
| 17:18.59 | Chompers | fuck |
| 17:19.05 | Chompers | 2 wow crashes in a row |
| 17:19.16 | Chompers | both times when entering an areana in a 3 man team |
| 17:23.29 | Roartindon | Chompers: PitBull playing up? |
| 17:24.09 | *** join/#wowace Elkano_2nd (n=elkano@srbk-590f9b45.pool.einsundeins.de) |
| 17:25.37 | *** join/#wowace Elkano (n=elkano@srbk-590f9b45.pool.einsundeins.de) |
| 17:25.49 | Silviu- | Chompers did u update ? |
| 17:26.47 | Ominous | [Ammoo] ping |
| 17:31.33 | Pneu | nrgh, i wish my G15 keyboard worked with SpamSentry, i get my LCD spammed even though SS blocks the actual whisper :< |
| 17:31.47 | Tornhoof | haha |
| 17:32.00 | Kirkburn|afk | Why must people insist on NOT READING FRAKKIN' RESPONSES. Argh. For the next week I bet I'm going to be continually saying "update your Ace addons", "yes, update them", "no, really, update them", "see what I just said" |
| 17:32.04 | Pneu | "Ffgghfghsdfdg whispered you" |
| 17:32.16 | Kirkburn|afk | (sorry, rant about users :P damn them) |
| 17:32.24 | Pneu | you know what i heard, you need to update all your ace addons |
| 17:32.32 | Roartindon | Kirkburn|afk: I don't envy you atm :) |
| 17:32.32 | Kirkburn|afk | That's crazy talk! |
| 17:32.50 | Tornhoof | you could teach purl that |
| 17:32.59 | Bam_DK | Kirk, you need to go to the user and install the libs for him :P |
| 17:33.08 | Kirkburn|afk | Btw, I should point out this was in no way a response to people on here, just on the UI sites. |
| 17:33.56 | Bam_DK | the least you can do :) |
| 17:33.56 | Pneu | purl, update is <reply> I heard you had to update ALL of your Ace2 addons! |
| 17:34.05 | purl | ...but update is already something else... |
| 17:34.05 | Wobin | Bam_DK: Preferably upside the head with a large stick =) |
| 17:34.05 | Bam_DK | hehe |
| 17:34.05 | Funkeh` | FISKER_Q: the PT3 commit? |
| 17:34.05 | Pneu | ~update |
| 17:34.09 | purl | methinks update is dselect update, grabs the Packages.gz files from their sources and refreshes the available packages. Use before an apt-get upgrade, or you can use apt-get update instead of dselect update |
| 17:34.09 | Pneu | fucking purl |
| 17:34.09 | Wobin | poor purl |
| 17:34.13 | Wobin | nothing but abuse =P |
| 17:34.13 | Kirkburn|afk | Wobin, took the words straight from my mouth :P |
| 17:34.14 | Pneu | ah |
| 17:34.17 | Pneu | finally, laggy crap |
| 17:34.24 | Kirkburn|afk | Eww, that's a boring response |
| 17:34.28 | tGc|oO7 | isn't it possible to make an autoswitch actionbar for weapons ? actionbar1 is for melee - actionbar2 is for ranged (or any other weapons) - actionbar3 is for friendly target ................. etc |
| 17:34.30 | Bam_DK | ohh thought you wrote really fast there :P |
| 17:34.39 | Pneu | purl, no, update is <reply> I heard you had to update ALL of your Ace2 addons! |
| 17:34.41 | purl | Pneu: okay |
| 17:34.45 | Antiarc|Work | tGc|oO7: Not possible as of 2.0. |
| 17:34.45 | sedatedChipmunk | ... |
| 17:34.45 | Pneu | ~update |
| 17:34.49 | purl | I heard you had to update ALL of your Ace2 addons! |
| 17:35.04 | Antiarc|Work | You can set up multiple action bars, but you have to manually switch them. |
| 17:35.07 | sedatedChipmunk | dude, purl isn't just a wowace bot |
| 17:35.10 | Antiarc|Work | ie, with a keypress or mouse click |
| 17:35.31 | Pneu | no purl, update is methinks update is dselect update, grabs the Packages.gz files from their sources and refreshes the available packages. Use before an apt-get upgrade, or you can use apt-get update instead of dselect update |
| 17:35.58 | Kirkburn|afk | ~update |
| 17:35.59 | purl | dselect update, grabs the Packages.gz files from their sources and refreshes the available packages. Use before an apt-get upgrade, or you can use apt-get update instead of dselect update |
| 17:36.14 | Pneu | :< |
| 17:36.43 | sedatedChipmunk | ~chaninfo |
| 17:36.43 | purl | I'm on 81 channels: #/15, ##bz-inc/9, ##ducleague/14, ##essy/77, ##icf/3, ##pxe/6, ##t42/4, #aegis/1, #asterisk/301, #asterisk-doc/8, #botpark/18, #brlcad/16, #byumug/3, #bzflag/52, #bzmods/3, #casualti/1, #creativeforum/3, #debian/747, #debian-bots/20, #debian-france/6, #debianppc/23, #dub/6, #edev/28, #elinux/30, #elive/30, #familiar/22, #flyspray/14, ... |
| 17:36.43 | purl | i've cached 3652 users, 2754 unique users, distributed over 81 channels. |
| 17:36.52 | Gagorian | Why isn't step by one possible in dewdrop 'range' menus? The range is pretty big but for it to be any good it'd have to be able to set by one instead of the 25 it gets. |
| 17:37.23 | art3mis | floggin molly rules |
| 17:37.26 | Antiarc|Work | Gagorian: Step by 1 should be possible, but you run into problems like mouse resolution |
| 17:37.39 | Gagorian | I can't even set it manually by one up |
| 17:37.43 | Gagorian | it rounds it to closest |
| 17:37.53 | Tornhoof | i had that problem too once in awhile |
| 17:37.55 | Gagorian | By inputing the values to the box |
| 17:37.57 | Kirkburn|afk | What does a double ## mean? |
| 17:38.04 | *** join/#wowace Kilroo (n=Jarentha@cpe-071-076-173-175.triad.res.rr.com) |
| 17:38.07 | Kirkburn|afk | (on that channel list of purl's) |
| 17:38.13 | deltron | http://biz.gamedaily.com/industry/feature/?id=15965 <-- zomg |
| 17:38.16 | art3mis | walk away me boys walk away me boys by morning well be free, wipe a golden tear from your mother dear and raise whats left of the flag for meeeeeeeeee |
| 17:38.17 | *** join/#wowace Tuller (n=chatzill@c-76-27-166-119.hsd1.va.comcast.net) |
| 17:38.31 | Pneu | i guess its just a channel name that starts with a # |
| 17:38.35 | deltron | what kinda bot is purl ? |
| 17:38.41 | Pneu | deltron: infobot |
| 17:38.42 | sedatedChipmunk | means they want to be farther up on the list |
| 17:38.47 | sedatedChipmunk | kinda like ! and !! and !!! |
| 17:38.52 | art3mis | Starcraft 2 |
| 17:38.55 | art3mis | mmo |
| 17:39.02 | deltron | ah I miss my old infobot :( |
| 17:39.08 | deltron | cindy19f I named her |
| 17:39.15 | art3mis | think tradewars in an rts |
| 17:39.18 | art3mis | spanning planets |
| 17:39.22 | art3mis | got that would own so hard |
| 17:39.27 | art3mis | god |
| 17:39.33 | art3mis | rt landing and invasion |
| 17:39.34 | deltron | art3mis: it's already out I thought, eve |
| 17:39.36 | Thrae | Starcraft 2 is going to be a MMO? They should name it "World of Starcraft". That would so kick-ass. |
| 17:39.44 | Ominous | ~seen [Ammo] |
| 17:40.28 | purl | [ammo] is currently on #wowi-lounge (2d 1h 46m 48s) #wowace (2d 1h 46m 48s). Has said a total of 200 messages. Is idling for 2h 50m 56s, last said: 'but tabbing back to another process and back to wow fixes that'. |
| 17:40.28 | Kirkburn|afk | Wow, the development never ceases: "We will be releasing Patch 1.15 for StarCraft within the next few weeks." |
| 17:40.28 | sedatedChipmunk | no, he's just ranting wild speculation |
| 17:40.28 | art3mis | yeah but eve makes baby jesus cry |
| 17:40.28 | *** join/#wowace kevin1024 (n=kevin@74-132-200-153.dhcp.insightbb.com) |
| 17:40.32 | Kirkburn|afk | Btw, the jobopp page is actually http://www.blizzard.com/jobopp/ |
| 17:40.43 | Thrae | Well, they should still name it "World of Starcraft", even if its a MORPG |
| 17:40.45 | Tornhoof | they're doing that regularly |
| 17:40.48 | Kirkburn|afk | GameDaily can't even get a bloody link right |
| 17:40.55 | Kirkburn|afk | =) |
| 17:41.06 | Nickenyfiken | Does the 5 second rule restart when you start eating or drinking? |
| 17:41.09 | Thrae | I don't know if they'll make another MMORPG to compete with their own WoW, as WoW is still very popular |
| 17:41.20 | art3mis | Protoss Rising: Universal Conquest. |
| 17:41.26 | art3mis | thats what they need to call it ;P |
| 17:41.29 | art3mis | PRUC ;P |
| 17:41.52 | art3mis | yeah but its not all dominately thrae |
| 17:41.54 | Thrae | Nickenyfiken: Don't see why it should, the 5 second rule is mostly absolute |
| 17:42.02 | art3mis | so they need something elses to oblterate everything else ;P |
| 17:42.21 | Thrae | art3mis: Yeah |
| 17:42.22 | Thrae | OK, I got it |
| 17:42.36 | kenlyric | no, eating and drinking does not reset the 5sr |
| 17:42.37 | sedatedChipmunk | Nickenyfiken: pitbull's spark goes on everything =p |
| 17:42.39 | Wobin | Thrae: rofl. For a second there I thought you were talking about dropping food onto the floor =) |
| 17:42.44 | *** join/#wowace Segatron (n=MrX@213.24.105.151) |
| 17:42.47 | Thrae | Starcraft 2 - Mass Multiplayer Tactical RPG |
| 17:42.56 | Nickenyfiken | yeah i have noticed Pitbull spark is crazy, thats why i asked |
| 17:43.02 | kevin1024 | Wobin: lol me too |
| 17:43.17 | art3mis | real time space fights and landings and ground invasions would be awesome |
| 17:43.30 | deltron | zerg rushing! |
| 17:43.34 | Thrae | I got it Starcraft 2 - Mass Multiplayer Tactical RPG. A good example is Shattered Galaxies. That game rocked for a long time, but the game directors were idiots and didn't keep innovating. |
| 17:43.36 | deltron | kekekeke ^_____^ |
| 17:43.43 | hyperChipmunk | Thrae: right on |
| 17:43.44 | art3mis | hehe |
| 17:43.50 | hyperChipmunk | was awesome in beta |
| 17:43.53 | art3mis | xroads pre BG's with spaceships! |
| 17:43.59 | Thrae | hyperChipmunk: You played Shattered Galaxies beta? |
| 17:44.04 | hyperChipmunk | yep |
| 17:44.07 | hyperChipmunk | hyperactiveChipmunk |
| 17:44.10 | hyperChipmunk | i was on the purple team |
| 17:44.12 | Thrae | hyperChipmunk: Ever heard of Deksar from Borg? |
| 17:44.19 | hyperChipmunk | i don't remember the name |
| 17:44.20 | Tornhoof | tarrens mill pre bg |
| 17:44.26 | hyperChipmunk | we always sucked =) |
| 17:44.34 | art3mis | hehe xroads and tm/ss were the hot spots |
| 17:44.37 | Tornhoof | but i want my shaman workbench shoulders :) |
| 17:44.38 | hyperChipmunk | or wait, maybe we were yellow |
| 17:44.45 | Thrae | hyperChipmunk: I think I was Purple |
| 17:44.46 | hyperChipmunk | it was whatever was in the bottom-right |
| 17:45.00 | art3mis | we used to stealth kill the wyvern guy at ss to piss off the alliance ;P |
| 17:45.00 | hyperChipmunk | we usually had like 1 territory =P |
| 17:45.08 | hyperChipmunk | that was awesome game |
| 17:45.10 | hyperChipmunk | until phase 4 |
| 17:45.27 | hyperChipmunk | when they practically threw everything out and changed the whole thing |
| 17:45.38 | Thrae | hyperChipmunk: I actually had a designer's ear for most of Beta, and I was the rare exclusive Specialist. I would use those Arblasts or whatever (mortar splash ground damage) |
| 17:45.39 | hyperChipmunk | and it was all wtf |
| 17:45.47 | hyperChipmunk | =D |
| 17:45.53 | hyperChipmunk | arbalest |
| 17:46.01 | Thrae | Right! It was long ago |
| 17:46.07 | hyperChipmunk | yea, i remember when phase 3 started i went with behemoth armor |
| 17:46.08 | Thrae | Everyone hated me :D |
| 17:46.30 | hyperChipmunk | i was unstoppable for a good few weeks, because even a full array of arbalests couldn't dent me |
| 17:46.53 | hyperChipmunk | it was beautiful |
| 17:46.57 | Thrae | Yeah, I kept at it with Phase 3. I thought Phase 3 actually improved my Arbalests, even though their splash damage was decreased for quicker attacks |
| 17:47.13 | hyperChipmunk | man, good times |
| 17:47.48 | Thrae | I had a teleporting Transport, and I would teleport them to an area no one except Air could get to, and I also had 1 Air Splash Damage unit (forget the name) covering my Arbalests |
| 17:47.57 | hyperChipmunk | ballista |
| 17:48.25 | Thrae | Right. Oh, but the real reason why people hated me -- I exploited Camo w/ Brute to stall reinforcements |
| 17:48.29 | *** join/#wowace Amian (n=Andre@cmr-208-97-77-34.cr.net.cable.rogers.com) |
| 17:48.35 | hyperChipmunk | haha |
| 17:49.03 | hyperChipmunk | my roomate was a brute freak |
| 17:49.14 | Thrae | I just put 1 Brute in some corner of the map :D They had to exploit a bug to kill him, and I was exploiting the design error to allow stall tactics like this |
| 17:49.34 | hyperChipmunk | yea i remember that tactic |
| 17:49.39 | Thrae | I also won a Nexon tee-shirt in the "Jester" contest |
| 17:50.05 | Thrae | I would shout "All Fear Bobo, the Dark Clown!" everytime I joined with Bobo :D I won "Best Name" |
| 17:50.18 | hyperChipmunk | hehe |
| 17:50.30 | Thrae | Good times, good times. |
| 17:50.45 | art3mis | before you go taking a walk in my world you better take a look at the real world cuz this aint no mr. rogers neighborhood, can you say feel like shit? yeah maybe somedays i do feel like shit but i'd rahter feel like shit than be full of shit and if i offended you oh im sorry, well maybe you eed to be offended. here's my apology and one more thing fuck you, cuz you can't bring me down can't bring me down |
| 17:50.52 | Thrae | hyperChipmunk: Did you play any other Nexon games? |
| 17:51.01 | hyperChipmunk | the sapper dudes were my favorite, but they always suxed |
| 17:51.22 | hyperChipmunk | no, my roomate did, but i never got into it |
| 17:51.23 | Thrae | Yeah, the guys that put down mines were cool to play with, I had to use 'em obviously to raise my Specialist level |
| 17:51.58 | Thrae | hyperChipmunk: I played Dark Ages: Online Roleplaying for 3 years, and Kingdom of the Winds for 1 year before DA |
| 17:52.06 | hyperChipmunk | they always died on their own mines |
| 17:52.06 | CIA-31 | 03cronan * r33913 10BigWigs/SC/Lurker.lua: BigWigs: Update locale koKR |
| 17:52.07 | hyperChipmunk | hehe |
| 17:52.20 | Thrae | I was famous in DA, but the game just went to hell |
| 17:52.31 | Thrae | Went to hell after 3 years or so, that is |
| 17:52.58 | hyperChipmunk | "yes, yes, the perfect array of destructive impenetrabili--wah? wait? no! NOOOOO!" |
| 17:53.01 | hyperChipmunk | *KABOOM* |
| 17:53.24 | Thrae | hyperChipmunk: Hehe |
| 17:53.38 | Thrae | hyperChipmunk: Ever see your roomate play Dark Ages? |
| 17:53.42 | hyperChipmunk | no |
| 17:54.00 | Thrae | Oh well, I was going to show you a flash animation I made for it which won me a few awards, http://deksar.aisling-spark.de/ctgoblin.html |
| 17:54.18 | Thrae | Although the flash animation doesn't really contain anything "only an insider would know" |
| 17:54.26 | Thrae | My little brother & sister love it :D |
| 17:54.57 | hyperChipmunk | =D |
| 17:56.48 | Gagorian | Isn't the accuracy of the dewdrop slider capable of keeping many decimals so that small steps in big ranges are possible or what? |
| 17:59.38 | hyperChipmunk | Thrae: very appropriate music |
| 18:00.16 | Thrae | hyperChipmunk: Thanks, I heard the music and then wanted to make a flash animation for it. |
| 18:01.25 | hyperChipmunk | yea, i surmised as much =) |
| 18:02.58 | hyperChipmunk | hehe "Rumrunners, Moonshiners, and Bootleggers" on the History Channel |
| 18:02.59 | trh | the future crew really rocked back then :) |
| 18:03.17 | trh | btw: the music in bejeweled 2 is from one of the FC artists :) |
| 18:04.00 | Amadeo | You guys played weird games! |
| 18:04.34 | art3mis | hehe and the other FC guys went on to form blizzard ;P |
| 18:04.38 | Wobin | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:04.41 | Wobin | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:04.56 | Wobin | < future crew |
| 18:05.09 | Wobin | s/</<3/ |
| 18:05.16 | art3mis | yup |
| 18:05.24 | art3mis | they gave us incredibly demos |
| 18:05.28 | art3mis | and kick ass games |
| 18:05.31 | trh | but i liked the chip tunes from pm more then those from skaven |
| 18:05.41 | trh | oh.. did you played that one car game? |
| 18:05.46 | trh | i don't remember the name |
| 18:05.51 | trh | but the music was also from one of them :) |
| 18:05.55 | art3mis | that narrows it down ;P |
| 18:06.05 | [r1-Fox] | zomg, future crew |
| 18:06.07 | trh | it was a 3d-view |
| 18:06.10 | art3mis | did you play that game where the guy has a gun? |
| 18:06.14 | [r1-Fox] | Second Reality |
| 18:06.16 | art3mis | it was awesome |
| 18:06.17 | CIA-31 | 03gagorian * r33914 10DrDamage/ (DrDamage.lua DrDamage.toc libs/): |
| 18:06.17 | CIA-31 | DrDamage: |
| 18:06.18 | CIA-31 | -Added FuBar plugin |
| 18:06.18 | art3mis | heh |
| 18:06.39 | Wobin | hehe, what about that game where stuff happens, like, right there? =P |
| 18:06.39 | [r1-Fox] | when i saw second reality the first time |
| 18:06.44 | *** join/#wowace KarlThePagan (n=andross@lanip-170-65.go180.net) |
| 18:06.46 | [r1-Fox] | omg, just awesome |
| 18:07.07 | trh | it was from Remedy entertainment |
| 18:07.10 | trh | death rally maybe |
| 18:07.22 | trh | ya.. it was death rally |
| 18:07.24 | trh | awesome game :) |
| 18:07.27 | trh | awesome music :) |
| 18:07.32 | art3mis | ive got an old website backup that has all the fc demos |
| 18:08.18 | Amadeo | Blizzard is unveiling a new game next month |
| 18:09.00 | chutwig | starcraft: brood slapfight |
| 18:09.00 | art3mis | haha |
| 18:09.08 | art3mis | gottta hit space bar to slap faster than the zergs! |
| 18:09.51 | [r1-Fox] | btw |
| 18:09.53 | [r1-Fox] | http://www.pouet.net/groups.php?which=51 |
| 18:10.02 | [r1-Fox] | Future Crew releases |
| 18:10.24 | [r1-Fox] | always worth :o |
| 18:10.47 | art3mis | nice |
| 18:10.48 | NeoTron | I predict Blizzard will release SC2 and are working on a SC-based MMORPG to be released after SC2 |
| 18:11.11 | art3mis | hehe sr is like 80000 times more popular than the next closest |
| 18:11.14 | *** join/#wowace pub^^ (n=pub@cdubray.csbnet.se) |
| 18:11.15 | [r1-Fox] | <3 pouet.net, awesome site :) |
| 18:11.30 | chutwig | at least there won't be any confusion about whether medics are good at soloing |
| 18:11.46 | [r1-Fox] | :DDDD |
| 18:11.50 | NeoTron | it's a bit hard to imagine exactly how SC would transform to an MMO |
| 18:11.56 | *** join/#wowace Cryect (n=fefsd@pool-68-162-148-242.pitt.east.verizon.net) |
| 18:12.02 | NeoTron | but it better have a space aspect to it if they do it, not just ground crap :P |
| 18:12.03 | [r1-Fox] | imagine, an SC mmorpg |
| 18:12.09 | [r1-Fox] | where you have 2 protoss accounts |
| 18:12.12 | chutwig | combine the spreadsheetness of EVE with the retardation of WoW PVP and PVE |
| 18:12.13 | [r1-Fox] | and melt them together |
| 18:12.15 | NeoTron | lawl |
| 18:12.17 | [r1-Fox] | to make an dark archon |
| 18:12.23 | [r1-Fox] | awesomesauce |
| 18:12.24 | [r1-Fox] | ! |
| 18:12.24 | NeoTron | chutwig: the horror |
| 18:12.53 | chutwig | mmm EVE |
| 18:13.05 | Wobin | WARE IS DARK ARCONS WIEF? |
| 18:13.14 | chutwig | reaching new levels of excessive attention to detail and ridiculous boredom |
| 18:13.30 | Thrae | Yeah, Skaven rocks. I even emailed him afterwards, asking if it was OK I distributed the flash animation. He said someone made a real animation from it, but he doesn't know where I could find it. |
| 18:13.49 | Amadeo | EVE would have been great without the monotony of mining and the controlled advancement |
| 18:14.09 | chutwig | and the fact that you had to consider about 5000 variables when examining your combat worthiness |
| 18:14.19 | nevcairiel | heh |
| 18:14.24 | Amadeo | I didn't mind that as much :) |
| 18:14.32 | chutwig | otherwise you go into combat and gosh because you didn't train Advanced Inertial Gyroscopic Stabilization IV |
| 18:14.36 | art3mis | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sxh1xlp3J_Q&mode=related&search= |
| 18:14.37 | chutwig | your railguns can now only hit things at a range of 3m |
| 18:15.01 | art3mis | You see there's this very technical thing called aggro...... translation "priest dies" |
| 18:15.45 | chutwig | also the interface was really sluggish and the market felt sort of like i was playing excel |
| 18:16.01 | nevcairiel | I liked that, actually. |
| 18:16.09 | nevcairiel | (the excel thing) |
| 18:16.14 | chutwig | i like it too, except for the sluggishness |
| 18:16.21 | trh | http://youtube.com/watch?v=X3Rcoi6yfFc cool... there are even death rally videos on youtube :) |
| 18:16.25 | chutwig | things just felt too abstruse |
| 18:16.37 | nevcairiel | altho i didnt make it past the 10day trial :D |
| 18:16.54 | Wobin | nor I |
| 18:17.02 | chutwig | i paid for a month and had some fun with it but i got annoyed when i started training some 30-day skill that i needed in order to use medium railguns |
| 18:17.13 | chutwig | or at least to be able to use them at ranges of greater than about 250m |
| 18:17.38 | art3mis | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K2f0aGMAx7w&mode=related&search= oh my god thats awesome!!! |
| 18:18.06 | kenlyric | art3mis: you been living under a rock, haven't you? :) |
| 18:18.32 | chutwig | they need something better to do |
| 18:18.40 | kenlyric | and yes, it's awesome. My guild is full of losers who won't do that. |
| 18:18.56 | art3mis | yes |
| 18:19.09 | art3mis | "you're controlling the music how the fuck do you lose?" |
| 18:19.37 | kenlyric | I'd stab myself having to listen to those people. |
| 18:20.15 | chutwig | hohoho it's funny because when the paladin lost he POPPED DIVINE SHIELD |
| 18:20.30 | trh | they always do :P |
| 18:20.48 | art3mis | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=frxiJbEk20s |
| 18:21.21 | art3mis | for some reason i love that they turned thralls hut into a rave club |
| 18:21.52 | trh | art3mis: unfortunately there was never a sequel to that episode :) |
| 18:23.15 | art3mis | yeah |
| 18:23.24 | art3mis | bastards got real jobs or something |
| 18:23.44 | art3mis | they're still the best wow videos in the entire world |
| 18:24.16 | art3mis | 4th and 5th are the 3man onyxia and the 5 boomkins in arena |
| 18:24.42 | Wobin | http://www.clipal.com/video/catch_that_goblin ? |
| 18:25.02 | kenlyric | Skullcrusher Mountain is the best wow video in the world, of course. |
| 18:25.09 | ckknight | Silviu-: pong |
| 18:25.44 | Silviu- | ckknight, sometimes the power spark apear at end of mana bar and stays there even if it`s disabled :) |
| 18:26.04 | ckknight | Silviu-: redirect to nymbia |
| 18:26.09 | Silviu- | Oky |
| 18:26.10 | Silviu- | :) |
| 18:26.45 | *** join/#wowace Eternally777 (n=eternall@pool-72-95-4-170.hrbgpa.east.verizon.net) |
| 18:27.42 | Wobin | Thrae: *points up* |
| 18:29.24 | *** join/#wowace Droolio (n=drool@87-194-188-170.bethere.co.uk) |
| 18:30.00 | kenlyric | art3mis: in case you also lived under a rock for this one http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2_ryNJVreiY |
| 18:31.00 | *** join/#wowace Arrowmaster (n=Arrow@cpe-71-72-167-136.woh.res.rr.com) |
| 18:33.19 | art3mis | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=joylAVP6v5M |
| 18:33.27 | art3mis | stephen lynch rules |
| 18:33.40 | *** join/#wowace Shyva (n=n0time@sd511586e.adsl.wanadoo.nl) |
| 18:34.13 | art3mis | it's d&D |
| 18:34.19 | art3mis | fighting with the legends of yore |
| 18:34.22 | art3mis | it's d&d |
| 18:34.26 | art3mis | never kissed a lady before |
| 18:34.36 | *** join/#wowace doktoreas (n=geko@host232-190-dynamic.1-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) |
| 18:38.27 | art3mis | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zIux3dM3Nv8&mode=related&search= |
| 18:39.41 | art3mis | i had girlie girls and sexy clothes |
| 18:39.50 | art3mis | ed had names for all his toes |
| 18:40.09 | art3mis | i thought college life was great |
| 18:40.11 | hugo | lo |
| 18:40.14 | Gagorian | ckknight: Why aren't small steps possible in the dewdrop slider in big ranges? (manual input or scrolling up/down for one step) |
| 18:40.15 | art3mis | eq couldnt count from 1 to 2 |
| 18:40.32 | hugo | anyone know if there's ace2 addon like betteritemcount? converts 1200 to 1,5k |
| 18:40.46 | hugo | er to 1,2k :) |
| 18:40.48 | AKX | hugo, an addon which adds 300 to all item counts? :P |
| 18:40.50 | AKX | Oh. :D |
| 18:40.54 | hugo | ... :D |
| 18:41.23 | hugo | problem is that betteritemcount needs SEA, and i dont want sea |
| 18:41.41 | AKX | Sea isn't big. |
| 18:41.43 | AKX | Or evil. |
| 18:41.45 | Gagorian | My range is -500, 2000 and I'd like steps of 1, but it just keeps rounding the step up to ~one hundredth of the range |
| 18:41.55 | hugo | but i dont want it anymore |
| 18:42.10 | art3mis | there there muffin |
| 18:42.15 | *** join/#wowace Gnarfoz (n=smallbra@unaffiliated/gnarfoz) |
| 18:42.24 | hugo | but now im thinkinh what all the addon converts, is it just for the hunter ammo ? mayb i can live without that |
| 18:43.04 | hyperChipmunk | that's the only thing i can imagine, on the bag count |
| 18:43.15 | hugo | and also don't anyone know if there ace2 quest addon common to partyquest, witch shows two frames on left quess and on right objective :> |
| 18:43.33 | Gagorian | You don't need to ace2 everything :P |
| 18:43.33 | hugo | well prolly will just delete it then, since hunter is only my alt:) |
| 18:43.37 | AKX | hugo, something called DoubleWidth does it, I think |
| 18:43.41 | hugo | Gagorian i just want to cause WAU :) |
| 18:43.43 | AKX | But I'll check up on BetterItemCount. |
| 18:43.45 | *** part/#wowace Amadeo (n=amadeo@c-68-50-168-95.hsd1.md.comcast.net) |
| 18:43.57 | hugo | ok im going look thanks |
| 18:44.17 | AKX | Figures. I don't have BetterItemCount installed anymore. |
| 18:45.05 | AKX | hugo: |
| 18:45.11 | AKX | Want a Sea-less BetterItemCount? |
| 18:45.32 | hugo | yes |
| 18:45.35 | AKX | Private ;) |
| 18:46.21 | art3mis | http://www.flickr.com/photos/jkenning/464845773/in/set-72157600078099414 |
| 18:46.33 | Ominous | ckknight: ping |
| 18:47.35 | yacoob | POKE AKX,0xdeadbeef |
| 18:47.36 | CIA-31 | 03roartindon * r33915 10Aloft/ (6 files in 3 dirs): |
| 18:47.37 | CIA-31 | Aloft |
| 18:47.37 | CIA-31 | - Added new ManaBar module which shows mana for *group members only* |
| 18:47.37 | CIA-31 | - Added ManaText module |
| 18:47.37 | CIA-31 | - Added ManaData module that provides all this information |
| 18:48.03 | yacoob | Drats. Wrong poke. |
| 18:49.23 | AKX | hugo: Are you getting my private messages at all? |
| 18:49.27 | Bibi`ouF | FISKER_Q ? |
| 18:49.31 | Bibi`ouF | You're here noob ? |
| 18:49.39 | Bibi`ouF | http://www.mmo-champion.com/index.php?topic=137.0 |
| 18:49.53 | hugo | yeah |
| 18:50.32 | ckknight | Ominous: pong |
| 18:51.29 | Ominous | ckknight: in 2.1 will the ##LoadManager toc tag or what ever it is work with fubar so that if its not eabled and fubar is loaded then the addon wont load until its enabled in fubar |
| 18:51.31 | hugo | hey ckknight i found today why i was geting all the problems i was using WAU 1.7somebeta , downloaded final today and all updating normal now and dont repeating :..;o] |
| 18:52.19 | kenlyric | lol |
| 18:52.33 | ckknight | Ominous: tried to get it to work, couldn't |
| 18:52.41 | CIA-31 | 03ckknight * r33916 10Ace2/Ace2.toc: Ace2 - remove space. |
| 18:52.41 | Ominous | ckknight: /cry |
| 18:52.41 | ckknight | hugo: hoorays |
| 18:52.45 | hugo | :D |
| 18:52.51 | Gagorian | ckknight: Why aren't small steps possible in the dewdrop slider in big ranges? (manual input or scrolling up/down for one step). My range is -500, 2000 and I'd like steps of 1, but it just keeps rounding the step up to ~one hundredth of the range. Is the slider:SetValue limited to two decimal accuracy? |
| 18:53.25 | ckknight | hrm |
| 18:53.43 | hugo | AKX i can see your PM fine, do you see mine at all ? |
| 18:53.44 | ckknight | did you set step to 1? |
| 18:53.47 | Gagorian | Yar |
| 18:53.53 | AKX | No hugo. |
| 18:54.01 | Gagorian | With step = 1, scrolling wont change a thing |
| 18:54.08 | jaete | hmm ok, i don't get the wow crash thing without pitbull enabled |
| 18:54.12 | CIA-31 | 03roartindon * r33917 10Aloft/Modules/ManaBar.lua: Aloft: ManaBar - fixed preset colors |
| 18:54.12 | Gagorian | it tries to change it by one, but fails due to SetValue inaccuracy or so |
| 18:54.35 | jaete | and i don't get it with only pitbull and none of the pitbull addons enabled - but with only pitbull, i do get some lesser error that doesn't crash wow however |
| 18:54.55 | jaete | with pitbull* enabled i get the non-crashing error, then when leaving raid, the crashing one |
| 18:55.19 | ckknight | which error? |
| 18:55.37 | ckknight | why won't you people tell me what errors you actually get instead of saying "an error"? |
| 18:55.48 | *** join/#wowace nuoHep (i=nuoHep@85.192.55.242) |
| 18:56.02 | Gagorian | The step is passed at least, checked it.. so it has to be something with loss of decimals imo |
| 18:56.12 | Antiarc|Work | Hey, ckknight, something doesn't work. Fix it. |
| 18:56.33 | Antiarc|Work | WHY HAVEN'T YOU FIXED IT YET. |
| 18:56.37 | ckknight | NO U |
| 18:56.57 | *** join/#wowace Adys (n=Miranda@APoitiers-256-1-128-189.w90-30.abo.wanadoo.fr) |
| 18:56.57 | Antiarc|Work | Damned programmers. Lern2telepathy. Slackers. |
| 18:57.02 | [r1-Fox] | ckknight has to touch himself at night, no time for fixing :7 |
| 18:57.13 | kenlyric | fixitfixitfixitfixitfixitfixitfixitfixit |
| 18:57.13 | jaete | ckknight, the wow crash/error reporter thing tells me a lot about it, but it's not too comprehensible. i don't get any in-game error :p |
| 18:57.25 | *** join/#wowace Kilroo (n=Jarentha@cpe-071-076-173-175.triad.res.rr.com) |
| 18:57.26 | jaete | just the wow reporter thing popping up in the background |
| 18:57.32 | ckknight | <jaete> with pitbull* enabled i get the non-crashing error |
| 18:57.34 | ckknight | oh |
| 18:57.35 | ckknight | hrm |
| 18:57.41 | ckknight | I dunno, then |
| 18:57.46 | ckknight | just be sure to update everything |
| 18:57.55 | jaete | i get that with just pitbull |
| 18:58.05 | CIA-31 | 03ominous * r33918 10FuBar_ClassTimerFu/ (Bars.lua Core.lua FuBar_ClassTimerFu.toc RuleSet.lua): FuBar_ClassTimerFu: now works with rogues abilities just need to add other classes, now errors on non 0.1 wow |
| 18:58.07 | deltron | last night I did an update with WAU and every mod seemed to have an update |
| 18:58.07 | jaete | yeah updated an hour or two ago :] |
| 18:58.41 | Antiarc|Work | For what it's worth, I've found that most mods that crash WoW are doing funky things with textures. |
| 18:59.50 | NeoTron | Eye of Magtheridon is a weird trinket |
| 18:59.58 | NeoTron | guess it's for the people who don't believe in spell hit... |
| 19:00.00 | Gagorian | NeoTron: a shit trinket |
| 19:00.36 | Gagorian | Improving gear makes it worse, gg blizz! |
| 19:00.36 | NeoTron | yeah |
| 19:00.36 | NeoTron | retarded |
| 19:00.36 | deltron | I'm glad they're buffing that stupid ribbon trinket from kara |
| 19:00.47 | deltron | I'm only going to use it for the mp/5 though |
| 19:00.55 | NeoTron | yeah |
| 19:00.58 | kenlyric | and your class is? |
| 19:01.02 | deltron | shaman |
| 19:01.04 | NeoTron | hunter! |
| 19:01.09 | kenlyric | I stab you. |
| 19:01.48 | NeoTron | got my heroic trinket last night and exatled with CE for the ring/JC design |
| 19:01.49 | NeoTron | woot |
| 19:01.57 | NeoTron | and we cleared 2xkara + gruul in 3 nights for the first time |
| 19:02.08 | NeoTron | with an hour to spare :) |
| 19:02.33 | deltron | kenlyric: pfft |
| 19:02.37 | nomenquis | ckknight, you would not happen to be able to tell me if pitbull is able to make use of druidbar / smartycat? |
| 19:02.53 | ckknight | nomenquis: I rolled a druid today |
| 19:02.56 | ckknight | well, last night |
| 19:03.01 | nomenquis | you won't regret it :p |
| 19:03.06 | ckknight | when she reaches lvl 10, I'll code the druid bar |
| 19:03.09 | kergoth | that loop lua library looks nifty, i'll have to play with that |
| 19:03.18 | ckknight | kergoth: hrm? |
| 19:03.32 | nomenquis | actually it should be possible to code it without having a druid. I can also help you test it if you want |
| 19:03.44 | nomenquis | iirc for druidbar you just have to pull a variable |
| 19:03.52 | nomenquis | s/pull/poll/ |
| 19:04.05 | kergoth | ckknight: http://loop.luaforge.net/ |
| 19:04.10 | ckknight | I'd like to test it on my own |
| 19:04.59 | nomenquis | aw, i'm really happy to hear that you're working on that, i really got to like pitbull :) |
| 19:05.54 | nomenquis | another thing about pitbull. is it possible to configure the 'spark' somehow to only show up for energy but not mana? |
| 19:06.11 | Chompers | ck, any luck with that hard crash ? |
| 19:06.26 | ckknight | Chompers: yea, it should be fixed |
| 19:06.31 | ckknight | nasty bug |
| 19:06.41 | JoshBorke | what was it? |
| 19:06.58 | kergoth | nomenquis: well, you could always use ace2 profiles, go class specific and enable/disable the spark based on class.. but i'm sure itd be easier for them to add a seperate option :) |
| 19:07.14 | nomenquis | class won't work for the druid, would it? |
| 19:07.17 | deltron | my guess is he's a druid |
| 19:07.27 | kergoth | oh, right |
| 19:07.46 | kergoth | i need to make kenergy override the energy spark |
| 19:08.15 | kergoth | i like the look of the spark, but its definately not as accurate, can run them both and watch how quickly they deviate |
| 19:09.49 | Bruners | do distracting shot work with misdirection ? |
| 19:10.16 | deltron | I don't see why not |
| 19:10.19 | deltron | added aggro |
| 19:10.32 | Bruners | just seeing that i gain aggro when using it |
| 19:10.37 | deltron | been a while since I played the 70 hunter I had access to |
| 19:10.39 | Bruners | might be klht bug |
| 19:11.35 | deltron | possibly |
| 19:14.36 | hyperChipmunk | it does |
| 19:15.17 | hyperChipmunk | it didn't when TBC came out, but it was bugfixed shortly after |
| 19:22.07 | deltron | http://files.filefront.com/coloTWavi/;7357543;/fileinfo.html <-- heh my coworkers guild |
| 19:24.01 | CIA-31 | 03gagorian * r33919 10DrDamage/ (DrDamage.lua Readme.txt): |
| 19:24.01 | CIA-31 | DrDamage: |
| 19:24.01 | CIA-31 | -DPS increase from The Lightning Capacitor is now visible in the tooltip as +n on the DPS line |
| 19:24.08 | kenlyric | ratingsbuster needs to add in mp5 to mana regen(nc) |
| 19:24.16 | kenlyric | doing this math is hurting my brain. |
| 19:25.00 | hugo | is there an equipcompare in ace2 ? |
| 19:25.12 | deltron | yes |
| 19:25.20 | kergoth | eqcompare doenst work for me :( |
| 19:25.25 | kergoth | nothing pops up, no comparison |
| 19:25.34 | deltron | hmm |
| 19:25.46 | deltron | usually works for me |
| 19:26.37 | hugo | going try |
| 19:26.47 | kergoth | it worksf or me if i click on an item, the itemref tooltip thing, but not on mouseover |
| 19:26.48 | kergoth | kinda weird |
| 19:26.56 | kergoth | maybe it just doesnt like baggins |
| 19:26.56 | hugo | also please something like friend facts in ace2 too ? ;] |
| 19:27.06 | kergoth | hugo: you mean like AuldLangSyne? |
| 19:27.06 | hugo | it shows in friendlist location of the player |
| 19:27.16 | hugo | I don't know AuldLangSyne |
| 19:27.21 | kergoth | pretty sure it does that, along with letting you add notes on friends and ignores |
| 19:27.33 | hugo | cool going to dl both thanks :) |
| 19:29.00 | deltron | anyone know of a mod that extends friends list? |
| 19:29.52 | hugo | they both work, eqcompare and AuldLangSyne cool thanks |
| 19:30.56 | hugo | now 2more addons left to be completely ace2 :D Mobile Frames and Mobile minimap buttons |
| 19:30.56 | hugo | any tips ? :) |
| 19:31.00 | deltron | what's mobile frames do? |
| 19:31.06 | deltron | or mobile minimap buttons? |
| 19:31.14 | deltron | move buttons around where you want? |
| 19:31.18 | Gnarfoz | I heard minimap buttons created by ace2 addons were able to moved along the outline of the minimap by themselves |
| 19:31.34 | Gnarfoz | (even if the minimap was squared (by an ace2 minimap addon)) |
| 19:31.39 | hugo | mobile frames makes all blizard frames moveable if unlocked |
| 19:31.40 | Wobin | isn't that for fubar plugins only? |
| 19:31.53 | hugo | and mobile minimap buttons makes the buttons move around map when hold key |
| 19:31.56 | Gnarfoz | Wobin: might be, I don't know where that functionality is implemented |
| 19:32.20 | hugo | Gnarfoz ahh thats right, but this was able to move all even default ones |
| 19:32.23 | hugo | like mail |
| 19:32.33 | Gnarfoz | dunno, don't have a mail icon |
| 19:32.38 | Gnarfoz | FuBar_MailFu :D |
| 19:33.01 | hugo | what about the mobile frames?;] |
| 19:33.21 | kergoth | hugo: moveFrames |
| 19:33.23 | kergoth | works well |
| 19:35.14 | deltron | yeah, but most of my mods are ace with fubar plugins |
| 19:35.51 | Gnarfoz | infected mushroom = teh shit |
| 19:35.58 | FISKER_Q | Kirkburn|afk you there? |
| 19:36.18 | deltron | yeh I gotta pick up new infected mushroom |
| 19:36.41 | FISKER_Q | liek old |
| 19:38.38 | hugo | thanks kergoth |
| 19:38.41 | kergoth | np |
| 19:39.15 | hugo | btw having chatthrotlelib help to anything ? |
| 19:39.27 | hugo | i don't know if i should keep it ;] |
| 19:39.32 | kergoth | its embedded in acecomm |
| 19:40.16 | hugo | that means i should keep it ? |
| 19:40.16 | *** join/#wowace toto (n=yop@mic92-10-82-238-133-137.fbx.proxad.net) |
| 19:40.23 | kergoth | that means addons that need it already have it. |
| 19:40.27 | kergoth | you dont need to have it seperately |
| 19:40.32 | hugo | oh i see, im poor english :) |
| 19:40.42 | toto | hi everyone |
| 19:40.45 | hugo | hi |
| 19:40.53 | deltron | hi |
| 19:41.17 | toto | can someone with svn access help me please ? |
| 19:41.27 | Bibi`ouF | http://www.mmo-champion.com/index.php?topic=137.0 updated btw |
| 19:41.33 | Bibi`ouF | with the shield that Nihilum "forgot" to release |
| 19:41.41 | hugo | kergoth looks like there isnt moveFrames in WAU |
| 19:41.44 | hyperChipmunk | toto: just ask the question |
| 19:41.48 | toto | thx |
| 19:41.55 | Gnarfoz | their site is getting punished ;D |
| 19:41.58 | kergoth | hugo: grab it off of wowi, i guess chuckg hasnt put it in wowace svn |
| 19:42.01 | Gnarfoz | last I tried, mysql was down ;> |
| 19:42.06 | hugo | ok |
| 19:42.09 | toto | Priceper addon got a typo in the toc |
| 19:42.22 | toto | line 22 : libs\Abacus\Abacus-2.0.lua |
| 19:42.33 | toto | should be : libs\AbacusLib\Abacus-2.0.lua |
| 19:42.50 | toto | can someone fix this please ? |
| 19:42.55 | hyperChipmunk | already on it =) |
| 19:43.06 | hyperChipmunk | don't use it; have to check it out first |
| 19:43.54 | CIA-31 | 03hyperactiveChipmunk * r33920 10PricePer/PricePer.toc: |
| 19:43.55 | CIA-31 | PricePer: |
| 19:43.55 | CIA-31 | - TOC typo corrected; credit to toto |
| 19:44.31 | hyperChipmunk | anything else? |
| 19:44.36 | toto | thx a lot, have a nice day/evening :) |
| 19:44.38 | toto | cya ! |
| 19:44.41 | hyperChipmunk | likewise |
| 19:44.46 | hyperChipmunk | thanks for the help |
| 19:44.52 | hugo | wow |
| 19:45.06 | hugo | seems like i got all ace2 now :) now going to delete all old addons ;o |
| 19:47.28 | deltron | hugo: hurray! |
| 19:47.34 | JoshBorke | absorbing 100000 damage?! GEEZE! |
| 19:48.07 | kergoth | hehe |
| 19:48.09 | Gnarfoz | Josh_Borke: telling :> |
| 19:48.20 | NightHawkTheSane | I'd imagine Kael'thas would have some ability to make that seem significantly less impressive :P |
| 19:48.24 | Gnarfoz | Bibi`ouF: wor stealing your images much? ^^ |
| 19:48.33 | hyperChipmunk | yathink |
| 19:48.34 | Bibi`ouF | Gnarfoz : ME SAYS ME NO GIVE NAMES |
| 19:48.43 | Gnarfoz | ;D |
| 19:48.43 | Bibi`ouF | (yes.) |
| 19:48.46 | Bibi`ouF | *cough* |
| 19:49.10 | JoshBorke | does everyone get those items? or one per raid or what? |
| 19:49.50 | Gnarfoz | guess one of each per raid |
| 19:50.14 | Gnarfoz | or whatever? they obviously seem to be intended to be used as justfication for "why the hell can we even kill this guy?" |
| 19:50.20 | JoshBorke | sounds like it'll be a stupid fun fight |
| 19:50.29 | Guillotine | anybody know of a way to force an update on the tooltip? It appears to only update when the mouse is moved and not when a frame is moved under it |
| 19:50.44 | hugo | yay it's done, no more sea and khaos ;o |
| 19:50.45 | Gnarfoz | although I'd have expected them to save stuff like this for more powerful characters like illidan, vashj or even arthas |
| 19:50.58 | JoshBorke | vashj > kael'thas? |
| 19:51.02 | *** join/#wowace Tak0r (n=tak0r@p57B64DFD.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 19:51.13 | hyperChipmunk | kael is equal or greater in rank to vashj |
| 19:51.18 | Gnarfoz | dunno, I never thought of Kael'thas as much of a "powerful npc guy" |
| 19:51.22 | JoshBorke | yea |
| 19:51.25 | Guillotine | Gnarfoz: those items are only usable in Tempest Keep anyway |
| 19:51.36 | Gnarfoz | Guillotine: I know? ^^ |
| 19:51.45 | Kirkburn|afk | FISKER_Q, aye? |
| 19:51.52 | Guillotine | I just see it as more of a permanent Evocation |
| 19:51.56 | Gnarfoz | I meant the idea of "give players special items to make this make sense" |
| 19:51.57 | hyperChipmunk | both are lieutenants of illadin |
| 19:52.44 | hyperChipmunk | and kael was actually sovereign, himself, for a time |
| 19:53.19 | Gnarfoz | leader of the blood elves and all, yes |
| 19:53.20 | hyperChipmunk | so i'd consider him slightly more significant than vashj |
| 19:54.05 | Gnarfoz | maybe I'm mixing up persons then, but isn't vashj the naga-fied queen of azshara? queen of those uber magic-using highborne elves? |
| 19:54.14 | hyperChipmunk | who's been subordinate to illadin from the time she entered the canon |
| 19:54.15 | NightHawkTheSane | Gnarfoz: yes |
| 19:54.24 | NightHawkTheSane | to both |
| 19:55.08 | Gnarfoz | hrm, I'd expect her to be more powerful than at least Kael (her being a much older figure), but then when does Blizzards lore make sense ^^ |
| 19:55.29 | JoshBorke | was vashj the original queen? |
| 19:55.39 | Gnarfoz | that's what I thought |
| 19:55.51 | hyperChipmunk | no |
| 19:56.01 | Gnarfoz | Vashj was Highborne (Quel'dorei) and rose through the ranks to become one of Queen Azshara's favored handmaidens |
| 19:56.02 | hyperChipmunk | she was the queen's servant |
| 19:56.06 | Gnarfoz | (From wowwiki) |
| 19:56.11 | Gnarfoz | so I guess I mixed that up :> |
| 19:56.26 | Gnarfoz | although she's freaking 10k years old o_O |
| 19:57.17 | Gnarfoz | so then we'll face Azshara as Empress of Nazjatar when that expansion comes out in 5 years ;D |
| 19:57.41 | *** join/#wowace Tem (n=tardmrr@WoWUIDev/WoWI/Dongle/Tem) |
| 19:57.41 | *** mode/#wowace [+o Tem] by ChanServ |
| 19:58.48 | hyperChipmunk | not sure how old kael is, but he's of the high elf royal bloodline |
| 19:59.08 | Silviu- | hyperChipmunk what is Priceper ? |
| 19:59.14 | hyperChipmunk | Silviu-: no clue |
| 19:59.19 | Silviu- | Oh ok :) |
| 19:59.23 | Guillotine | anybody know what the actual function is for the /dump provided by AceConsole? So I can call it from an addon |
| 19:59.26 | hugo | hehe current memory 24mb, before it was 40 :D |
| 19:59.33 | Sais | Adds a price per unit thinggy to the AH interface, I believe |
| 19:59.35 | hugo | bye bye khaos |
| 19:59.36 | hyperChipmunk | it's PrintLiteral i think |
| 19:59.59 | hyperChipmunk | Silviu-: some guy just came here and asked for a toc typo fix, so i did it for him |
| 20:00.11 | *** join/#wowace fleetfoot (n=fleetfoo@c-1de6e455.014-202-6e6b701.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) |
| 20:00.19 | Guillotine | ah, yup. thank you |
| 20:00.47 | hyperChipmunk | =D |
| 20:02.03 | CIA-31 | 03fenlis * r33921 10FuBar_PerformanceFu/locales/PerformanceFuLocale-koKR.lua: |
| 20:02.03 | CIA-31 | FuBar_PerformanceFu: |
| 20:02.03 | CIA-31 | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:03.50 | FISKER_Q | Kirkburn|afk ! |
| 20:03.59 | Kirkburn|afk | What?! |
| 20:04.08 | *** join/#wowace Seerah_ (n=chatzill@adsl-226-124-117.mem.bellsouth.net) |
| 20:04.10 | FISKER_Q | karazhan page doesn't load here |
| 20:04.12 | FISKER_Q | on wowwiki |
| 20:04.38 | *** join/#wowace dotted (n=me@0x555157c7.adsl.cybercity.dk) |
| 20:05.17 | deltron | yeah it's blank |
| 20:05.18 | deltron | strange |
| 20:06.01 | Kirkburn|afk | hmm, weird |
| 20:06.43 | deltron | yeah very |
| 20:07.10 | deltron | looks like my hard drives will show up before the rest of my hardware |
| 20:10.05 | chutwig | curse you trac |
| 20:10.16 | chutwig | reveal your secrets to meeeee |
| 20:11.09 | *** join/#wowace nuoHep (i=nuoHep@85.192.55.242) |
| 20:11.45 | *** join/#wowace Amadeo (n=amadeo@c-68-50-168-95.hsd1.md.comcast.net) |
| 20:13.45 | Cyrez | I love how my Mage still gets points in Defense when Mana Shield is up, lol. |
| 20:17.47 | *** join/#wowace Blabla (n=bibi@AVelizy-151-1-38-53.w82-120.abo.wanadoo.fr) |
| 20:17.51 | chutwig | my god |
| 20:17.53 | chutwig | it's full of stars |
| 20:18.19 | Wobin | chutwig: ^^ |
| 20:21.50 | *** join/#wowace tardmrr (n=tardmrr@WoWUIDev/WoWI/Dongle/Tem) |
| 20:21.50 | *** mode/#wowace [+o tardmrr] by ChanServ |
| 20:25.13 | *** join/#wowace snurre (n=snurre@AVelizy-153-1-26-110.w83-199.abo.wanadoo.fr) |
| 20:25.24 | *** join/#wowace Neebler (n=BuM@ppp-69-236-142-103.dsl.chic01.pacbell.net) |
| 20:25.39 | deltron | ok I helped get the kara page fixed |
| 20:27.45 | *** join/#wowace MrTorture (i=MrTortur@adsl-76-214-180-168.dsl.ipltin.sbcglobal.net) |
| 20:28.06 | snurre | i soo hate french isps :/ |
| 20:28.39 | chutwig | i soo hate [the] french [...] |
| 20:28.47 | Elkano | fixed: <snurre> i soo hate french |
| 20:30.16 | Seerah_ | french and I don't get along well... |
| 20:30.33 | Seerah_ | I learned enough of how to pronounce it to be able to sing in it, but that's about it :P |
| 20:31.44 | *** join/#wowace Bam_DK (n=pervel@0x573c050d.boanqu2.broadband.tele.dk) |
| 20:31.53 | snurre | ive lived here for almost 2 years, and still dont know the language :p |
| 20:33.25 | Bibi`ouF | french people are nice. |
| 20:33.32 | Bibi`ouF | they make nice screenshots of legendary items for you :/ |
| 20:33.47 | [r1-Fox] | they eat frogs! |
| 20:34.04 | *** join/#wowace Tsikura (i=nn@user-0cev16e.cable.mindspring.com) |
| 20:34.05 | renchap | snurre: you should try another isp than wanadoo ^^ |
| 20:34.09 | Bibi`ouF | tourists eat frogs |
| 20:34.14 | Bibi`ouF | french people don't, they're not stupid enough. |
| 20:35.09 | Bruners | why cant blizzard add arrows/bullets to the blacksmith guy in kara |
| 20:36.03 | hugo | where in addon i can find what /slash commands it have if there isnt documentation ? ;o |
| 20:37.45 | Bam_DK | search for RegisterChatCommand |
| 20:38.05 | *** join/#wowace Tekkub (n=tekkub@WoWUIDev/WoWI/Featured/Dongle/Tekkub) |
| 20:38.05 | *** mode/#wowace [+o Tekkub] by ChanServ |
| 20:38.18 | *** join/#wowace Gandharva (n=Miranda@p54914b07.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 20:38.30 | kergoth | wtf, my minimap no longer works.. wonder if cedega's acting up |
| 20:38.54 | deltron | never played in cedega |
| 20:39.10 | ggilbert | kergoth: If you haven't tried stock wine recently, I'd recommend giving it a try. Works *much* better in my experience. |
| 20:39.36 | kergoth | i've played with it before, its certainly come a long way |
| 20:39.40 | ggilbert | apart from one really annoying input problem. |
| 20:39.50 | deltron | I've only tried stock wine |
| 20:40.08 | hugo | there isnt any :D |
| 20:40.13 | kergoth | i cant wait to get back on my feet financially.. i'm using a cheap $35 backup pci-e video card |
| 20:40.18 | kergoth | get like 10-15 fps at most |
| 20:40.21 | Bam_DK | then it's hard to find :P |
| 20:40.23 | ggilbert | ugh eew |
| 20:40.35 | hugo | but it should have a whole menu |
| 20:40.37 | hugo | in xml |
| 20:40.46 | kergoth | minimap isnt working in wine either.. this is weird.. its like the whole map is transparent.. i see the border, but thats about it |
| 20:40.50 | kergoth | tried disabling simpleminimap.. no luck |
| 20:41.09 | hugo | ;s |
| 20:41.19 | *** join/#wowace FryGuy (i=fryguy@c-24-23-19-160.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) |
| 20:41.27 | deltron | I use RicoMiniMap |
| 20:41.29 | deltron | personally |
| 20:41.37 | ckknight | kergoth: it's not an issue with simpleMinimap, then |
| 20:41.48 | ckknight | kergoth: it might not be accessing the textures properly, my guess |
| 20:42.00 | hugo | rophy you around |
| 20:42.29 | *** part/#wowace Amadeo (n=amadeo@c-68-50-168-95.hsd1.md.comcast.net) |
| 20:44.17 | yacoob | Now that's why I like GuildWars: http://gw.gamewikis.org/wiki/Rollerbeetle_Racing |
| 20:45.11 | deltron | not staring at butts? |
| 20:45.54 | *** join/#wowace Saint-N (n=art3mis@pool-70-18-198-82.ny325.east.verizon.net) |
| 20:47.09 | *** join/#wowace Xabin (n=raed@81-233-66-74-no120.tbcn.telia.com) |
| 20:50.36 | *** join/#wowace Nargiddley (n=narg@203-97-236-74.cable.telstraclear.net) |
| 20:55.25 | *** join/#wowace Tuller (n=chatzill@c-76-27-166-119.hsd1.va.comcast.net) |
| 20:56.10 | Bam_DK | any Mac users know of a program that can convert BLP to TGA? |
| 20:56.40 | renchap | Bam_DK: graphic converter ? |
| 20:56.50 | Bam_DK | nope.. tried it |
| 20:56.53 | Mikma | Bam_DK: i just used windows for that job :P |
| 20:57.10 | Mikma | i tried to find a proper program for that job a long time and gave up |
| 20:57.30 | Bam_DK | ok... suppose I could run it in Parallels |
| 20:59.01 | Bam_DK | BLP and TGA are the only formats wow supports, right? |
| 20:59.55 | trh | Bam_DK: there are java converters, can't remember a url, but there are:) |
| 21:00.20 | Bam_DK | that would be good |
| 21:00.28 | *** join/#wowace kenlyric (n=kenlyric@adsl-75-51-225-213.dsl.ipltin.sbcglobal.net) |
| 21:00.36 | Bam_DK | my google search didnt find anything though :/ |
| 21:00.51 | [r1-Fox] | Bam_DK: http://www.wc3sear.ch/files/downloads.php?ID=5&l=6 |
| 21:00.59 | [r1-Fox] | Description: This is the one and ONLY converter for mac, which can converts TGA into BLP and vice versa. Easy drag and drop conversion which permitts you to transform couple of hundreds icons in a few seconds. |
| 21:01.19 | Bam_DK | cheers.. will take a look :) |
| 21:01.37 | [r1-Fox] | 3 years old, but file specifications shouldn't have changed i think :o |
| 21:01.42 | trh | Bam_DK: http://wow-en.curse-gaming.com/downloads/details/1436/wowimage-blp/ |
| 21:02.12 | Bam_DK | thanks guys :) |
| 21:08.35 | [r1-Fox] | good night :) |
| 21:15.31 | TheKarn | ping Antiarc|Work |
| 21:15.42 | Antiarc|Work | Pong |
| 21:16.05 | TheKarn | how's sanitybags coming along? |
| 21:16.14 | TheKarn | i wanna play :P |
| 21:16.36 | Antiarc|Work | It's truckin'. I haven't done a commit in the past 48 hours because I basically ripped Sanity apart to make the dependency external, so I'm actually developing 3 mods in parallel |
| 21:16.50 | Antiarc|Work | It's going to be hotness though. |
| 21:16.50 | TheKarn | 3? |
| 21:16.58 | Antiarc|Work | Sanity, SanityItemCache, SanityBags |
| 21:17.02 | TheKarn | SanityLibrary, SanityManager and SanityBags? |
| 21:17.08 | Antiarc|Work | SanityItemCache is the data handler, for the most part. |
| 21:17.21 | Antiarc|Work | Sanity and SanityBags are just views on top of the item cache. |
| 21:17.27 | TheKarn | anything i can grab? :P |
| 21:17.34 | Antiarc|Work | It's all at home on my machine :/ |
| 21:17.39 | Antiarc|Work | I'll try to get a commit or something in tonight |
| 21:17.43 | TheKarn | lol learn2vpn :) |
| 21:17.45 | *** join/#wowace Ominous (n=Ominous@84-51-151-23.jamesk522.adsl.metronet.co.uk) |
| 21:17.47 | TheKarn | kk cool |
| 21:17.48 | Antiarc|Work | Heh, yeah. |
| 21:17.49 | TheKarn | what time you on? |
| 21:17.55 | Antiarc|Work | Pacific |
| 21:18.04 | Antiarc|Work | It's 2:17 PM here |
| 21:18.15 | Antiarc|Work | It's going to be shit-hot, though :D |
| 21:18.15 | TheKarn | 10 hours behind then :( |
| 21:18.18 | Antiarc|Work | Ouch |
| 21:18.18 | TheKarn | yeah |
| 21:18.25 | Antiarc|Work | I'm working out bag groupings/layouts |
| 21:18.29 | Antiarc|Work | Kinda like profiles, sora |
| 21:18.30 | Antiarc|Work | sorta* |
| 21:18.40 | TheKarn | wait ... not 10 hours ... 8 |
| 21:18.43 | Antiarc|Work | Except you'll be able to switch them based on conditions if you like, bind them to keys, etc |
| 21:18.48 | Antiarc|Work | So say you have a raiding layout for your bags |
| 21:18.58 | Antiarc|Work | You can switch to that when raiding, then switch to a farming layout when farming, etc. |
| 21:19.06 | Antiarc|Work | Different setup, filters, etc. |
| 21:19.23 | TheKarn | can you have it so one of the options for a bag-layout is whether or not the items stack indefinately? |
| 21:19.35 | *** join/#wowace Cryect2 (n=fefsd@pool-68-162-148-242.pitt.east.verizon.net) |
| 21:19.35 | TheKarn | so 147 runecloth is one stack in the view? |
| 21:19.52 | TheKarn | that way i can use that for general use but use the same view without it for trading etc |
| 21:19.54 | Antiarc|Work | That's on the wishlist, but it isn't planned for core functionality, since right now I'm just doing straight 1:1 mapping of a SB slot -> real inventory slot. |
| 21:20.08 | Antiarc|Work | However, the SB slots are an AceOO class so it should be easy enough to proxy eventually |
| 21:20.09 | kenlyric | Antiarc|Work: have my babies? |
| 21:20.21 | Antiarc|Work | kenlyric: No uterus :( |
| 21:20.35 | TheKarn | Arny got around taht problem |
| 21:20.39 | Antiarc|Work | Haha |
| 21:20.48 | TheKarn | havent you seen the documentary? :P |
| 21:20.55 | Bam_DK | and look what happened to him |
| 21:21.01 | trh | Antiarc|Work: you can still adopt his ;) |
| 21:21.06 | Antiarc|Work | I'm going to set it up so that you can set up "bag groups" that you can open with a keybinding |
| 21:21.34 | Antiarc|Work | So I want to open consumables, pots, and reagents, for example. Set them to a bag group, bind the bag group to, say, ctrl-C, and there you go, one-press opening of those three bags. |
| 21:21.47 | Antiarc|Work | Three independent bags, but one binding |
| 21:21.56 | TheKarn | what would be nice is different categorisations per bag group |
| 21:22.04 | Antiarc|Work | What do you mean? |
| 21:22.28 | TheKarn | well from what i gather you'd set up each of the bags and show only bags 1, 5 and 7 using one keybinding |
| 21:22.34 | TheKarn | but they'd all be from the same category set |
| 21:22.46 | TheKarn | also how are you going to manage items that fall into two bags? |
| 21:23.06 | Antiarc|Work | No, you can set up any number of independent bags, each with its own filter. |
| 21:23.28 | Antiarc|Work | Items can fall into any number of bags. If an item falls into an explicit filter bag, it is removed from the catch-all bag, but otherwise, you can have one item in two bags. |
| 21:23.42 | Antiarc|Work | Bags don't own items so much as they just show items, if that makes sense. |
| 21:23.57 | Antiarc|Work | I've also added a search-in-bag option |
| 21:24.06 | Antiarc|Work | So you get a field you can type in and it filters the bag's contents by name |
| 21:24.26 | Antiarc|Work | So if you have an armor bag and want to find your "Uberness of the Whale" you can type in "whale" and it filters the view |
| 21:24.31 | Antiarc|Work | With a button to clear it back out again |
| 21:24.38 | TheKarn | it would be nice if there was an option to hide duplicate items, a simple way would be to put the item in the first bag it matches and then not in the rest |
| 21:24.58 | Antiarc|Work | While I agree, the problem is "what is the first bag?" |
| 21:24.59 | TheKarn | yeah i'm looking forward to that option:) |
| 21:25.17 | Bam_DK | let the user define a priority for each bag? |
| 21:25.20 | TheKarn | have a conigurable list of your bags in priority |
| 21:25.26 | Bam_DK | :P |
| 21:25.33 | TheKarn | click moves it up one, alt-click moves it down |
| 21:25.35 | TheKarn | a simple tablet |
| 21:25.41 | Antiarc|Work | Barn_DB: But what if I want item X to go into bag 2 as priority, and item Y to go into bag 3 as priority? |
| 21:25.52 | Antiarc|Work | I don't want bag 2 to have priority on ALL items |
| 21:26.11 | Bam_DK | no I mean simply that each bag has a priority |
| 21:26.32 | TheKarn | yeah and he means he wants each item to fall into a different bag by default |
| 21:26.35 | Bam_DK | if an item matches more than one bag, it goes into the one with the highest priority |
| 21:26.47 | Antiarc|Work | But see - |
| 21:26.49 | Bam_DK | it's not ideal... but it's simple |
| 21:27.22 | Antiarc|Work | If I have items X and Y, and bags 2 and 3, and want X prioritized to 2 and Y prioritized to 3, then if 2 were higher priority than 3, it would get both X and Y, and visa versa |
| 21:27.25 | TheKarn | so if he had "mana pots" and "consumables", he'd want "major mana potion" to fall into mana pots as a priority and "lesser mana potion" to fall into consumabels as a priority |
| 21:27.32 | TheKarn | both fall under the same filter |
| 21:27.55 | Bam_DK | nono... look at each item individually |
| 21:28.04 | Antiarc|Work | But you're basing it on bag priority |
| 21:28.09 | Bam_DK | yes |
| 21:28.14 | Antiarc|Work | So when X and Y match 2 and 3, 2 is higher priority so it gets both |
| 21:28.19 | Antiarc|Work | Even though I wanted Y -> 3 |
| 21:28.29 | Antiarc|Work | See, my answer to this would be "refine your filters", generally. |
| 21:28.39 | Antiarc|Work | If I don't want lesser mana pots in my mana pot bag: |
| 21:28.40 | TheKarn | yeah |
| 21:28.44 | Bam_DK | yea that's like in Baggins |
| 21:28.46 | *** join/#wowace WyriHaximus3rd (n=WyriHaxi@89.98.43.134) |
| 21:28.49 | Bam_DK | but that can be very hard to do |
| 21:28.49 | Antiarc|Work | name:"mana pot" name:!lesser |
| 21:29.10 | TheKarn | i assume you can use PT3 for filtering? |
| 21:29.18 | Antiarc|Work | You will be able to, but it isn't integrated yet. |
| 21:29.20 | WyriHaximus3rd | Antiarc|Work, just sow you sig generator and saw your trying to weed out the gold add, want a list of them? |
| 21:29.21 | Antiarc|Work | That's on the weekend to-do list. |
| 21:29.25 | TheKarn | kk |
| 21:29.27 | Antiarc|Work | WyriHaximus3rd: I would LOVE that. |
| 21:29.31 | Antiarc|Work | I can't keep up with them. |
| 21:29.42 | TecnoBrat | so currently, filters dont have priorities? (I dont use this addon) |
| 21:29.55 | TheKarn | ooh lets see your sig generator |
| 21:30.04 | TheKarn | TecnoBrat, its not available yet :P |
| 21:30.11 | Antiarc|Work | TecnoBrat: No, if a bag matches a filter, the item shows in the bag. |
| 21:30.14 | TheKarn | always helps to brainstorm ideas in development |
| 21:30.25 | Antiarc|Work | http://wow.tachyonsix.com/armory/create_sig.php <-- sig generator |
| 21:30.38 | Bam_DK | a bag matches a filter... ? |
| 21:30.39 | WyriHaximus3rd | Antiarc|Work, check my whisper in a moment :) |
| 21:30.40 | TheKarn | Antiarc|Work,ahh that one |
| 21:30.45 | TecnoBrat | Antiarc|Work, and you cant order them in what order to run? |
| 21:31.03 | TecnoBrat | yea .. that would be useful to me :) |
| 21:31.09 | TheKarn | i've made a sig gen that uses a SVG markup to generate the sig |
| 21:31.09 | Bam_DK | it sounds like we are talking past each other hehe |
| 21:31.17 | TheKarn | so users will eventually be able to design their own |
| 21:31.17 | Antiarc|Work | TecnoBrat: You can, sure, but the problem is when you have an item<->bag priority disparity. |
| 21:31.36 | Antiarc|Work | Thanks, WyriHaximus3rd! |
| 21:31.42 | *** join/#wowace cotangent (n=chatzill@70.59.158.157) |
| 21:31.43 | Bam_DK | the way I'm thinking about it there can be no disparity |
| 21:32.06 | TheKarn | Antiarc|Work, would it be possible to have a context menu for each item, you alt=click or something and choose that item's "priority bag" |
| 21:32.07 | Bam_DK | but I may not yet understand your filters :P |
| 21:32.37 | Antiarc|Work | Heheh. I'm gonna get a more complete beta out there and then we'll see about priorities :) |
| 21:32.44 | TheKarn | kk |
| 21:32.46 | TecnoBrat | hehe |
| 21:32.47 | Antiarc|Work | I think most of it can be accomplished with the right filters, really. |
| 21:33.03 | TheKarn | also ... can you have 2 catch-alls? "unsorted" and "all" |
| 21:33.44 | Bam_DK | the problem enters if you have a mix of very specific and very general filters I think |
| 21:33.44 | TheKarn | so you can set up an All-In-One style bag aswell as having the seperate ones |
| 21:33.44 | Antiarc|Work | TheKarn: Yeah, I'm going to add an "all" filter option. |
| 21:33.44 | Antiarc|Work | Just gonna make it "*" |
| 21:33.46 | WyriHaximus3rd | np :) |
| 21:33.48 | TheKarn | nice |
| 21:33.53 | TheKarn | i'll probly end up doing that |
| 21:34.16 | TheKarn | oooho ... filter aliases |
| 21:34.45 | Bam_DK | btw, the addon im working on is an inventory addon too.... hence my interest :P |
| 21:35.02 | TheKarn | ~whalecrit Bam_DK |
| 21:35.12 | purl | ACTION crits Bam_DK with a mathematically skilled whale named Isaac for #NaN. Bam_DK dies |
| 21:35.12 | TheKarn | no stealing antiarc's ideas :P |
| 21:35.15 | Bam_DK | lol |
| 21:35.18 | TheKarn | (and my poking him in the right direction) |
| 21:35.18 | Bam_DK | ouch |
| 21:35.40 | Bam_DK | does the world need yet another inventory addon? |
| 21:35.45 | Bam_DK | No, but I do! :) |
| 21:36.27 | Antiarc|Work | You're more than welcome to steal my ideas :D |
| 21:36.34 | Antiarc|Work | Means I don't have to do the work to implement them! |
| 21:36.35 | TheKarn | if SanityBags has the power i thiknk it will there wont be a need for other mods imo |
| 21:36.46 | Antiarc|Work | I've had my alpha testers say as much :) |
| 21:36.55 | Bam_DK | hehe... it's called being inspired isnt it? :) |
| 21:37.02 | TheKarn | consider me an alpha tester :P |
| 21:37.09 | TheKarn | i'm too impatient for the full release |
| 21:37.15 | TheKarn | baggins is starting to annoy me for some reason |
| 21:37.25 | trh | every svn user is more or less a alpha tester ;) |
| 21:37.37 | Antiarc|Work | TheKarn: There's a beta release on the wowace forums |
| 21:37.42 | TheKarn | trh not when it hasnt been committed |
| 21:37.43 | Antiarc|Work | but it's a good bit out of date |
| 21:37.44 | Antiarc|Work | AND |
| 21:37.51 | Antiarc|Work | You'll have to do DB resets when you upgrade |
| 21:37.55 | Antiarc|Work | Because I've completely restructured it |
| 21:37.57 | Mikma | baggins doesn't work with oApplication :( that's bad and i deleted baggins for it |
| 21:37.59 | Antiarc|Work | so I'd say just wait if you can |
| 21:38.10 | TheKarn | oApplication? |
| 21:38.15 | Mikma | oApplication. |
| 21:38.27 | TheKarn | wassitdo? |
| 21:38.45 | Mikma | wowinterface.com knows |
| 21:38.51 | trh | TheKarn: that's even worse;) |
| 21:39.02 | Chompers | how long does it take for a character to trasfer to a ptr? |
| 21:39.11 | Chompers | are we talking hours or days |
| 21:39.12 | Antiarc|Work | Happened overnight for me |
| 21:39.15 | trh | Chompers: few minutes to few hours usually |
| 21:39.15 | Antiarc|Work | So less than a day |
| 21:39.18 | Antiarc|Work | More than an hour |
| 21:39.35 | Mikma | Chompers: was days for me |
| 21:39.42 | TheKarn | eu or us? |
| 21:39.43 | Chompers | bah |
| 21:39.45 | Chompers | EU |
| 21:39.47 | trh | eu |
| 21:39.52 | TheKarn | not that long tbh |
| 21:39.53 | Chompers | joineding the pve, then pvp |
| 21:39.57 | Chompers | *joining |
| 21:40.10 | TheKarn | have they fixed the druid crashing yet? |
| 21:40.22 | Chompers | i really want to try out the t5 gear, seeing as i'll never get in on live |
| 21:40.24 | Bam_DK | druids crash? |
| 21:40.31 | Antiarc|Work | I've been pretty underwhelmed with the T5 |
| 21:40.34 | Antiarc|Work | At least the rogue t5 |
| 21:40.44 | TheKarn | apparently when you shift as a druid on ptr your client crashes |
| 21:40.54 | TheKarn | tbh t4 for priest sucks |
| 21:40.54 | Bam_DK | ahh on PTR |
| 21:40.55 | TheKarn | and t5 |
| 21:41.11 | Chompers | can you try out t6 yet? |
| 21:41.54 | Antiarc|Work | Bleh, WTB more time. |
| 21:42.03 | Antiarc|Work | I have so many things to do that I can't get to the things I want to do. |
| 21:42.13 | Bam_DK | me too... I vote for a 30 hour day |
| 21:42.26 | Sais | ha! |
| 21:42.31 | Chompers | live on a planet with a slow rotation then |
| 21:42.37 | Bam_DK | hehe |
| 21:42.44 | Sais | I vote for compulsory work hours: 12 to 1 |
| 21:42.45 | Sais | with an hour for lunch |
| 21:42.59 | Chompers | even better, everyone works in a coal mine |
| 21:43.08 | Chompers | and no lunch |
| 21:43.09 | Bam_DK | then it would also be a heavy planet, and I would weigh even more.. so no thanks :P |
| 21:43.13 | trh | Sais: 12 free hours for one work hour? =) |
| 21:43.37 | Sais | trh: No :P 12:00 to 13:00 |
| 21:43.41 | *** part/#wowace WyriHaximus3rd (n=WyriHaxi@89.98.43.134) |
| 21:43.55 | trh | Sais: ah... that sounds good ;) |
| 21:44.18 | Sais | trh: And the hour for lunch spent in the pub - at least on Friday. |
| 21:44.22 | Chompers | that ratio sounds good |
| 21:44.47 | trh | Sais: i could live with that :) |
| 21:45.45 | Sais | Beer isn't compulsory, but is highly recommended. *hic* |
| 21:46.29 | TheKarn | is there a mod that tracks required items for a profession? like say i wanted to make x number of item y, it would look at what i have in bank / bags and work out what mats i'm missing and give me a breakdown of what i need to farm |
| 21:47.03 | Bam_DK | I used one like that before 2.0 |
| 21:47.10 | Bam_DK | FizzWidget something |
| 21:47.18 | Chompers | i just use pen and paper |
| 21:47.29 | Bam_DK | and ink? :P |
| 21:47.29 | TheKarn | i have a spreadsheet |
| 21:47.39 | TheKarn | but i want it to update from wow :P |
| 21:49.07 | Bam_DK | this is the one http://ui.worldofwar.net/ui.php?id=1180 |
| 21:49.14 | Bam_DK | but it's out of date :( |
| 21:51.50 | *** join/#wowace Hjalte (i=Hjalte@0x5358f630.svgnxx3.adsl-dhcp.tele.dk) |
| 21:53.31 | *** join/#wowace ckknight (n=ckknight@198.199.136.146) |
| 21:53.31 | *** mode/#wowace [+o ckknight] by ChanServ |
| 21:54.02 | kergoth | Mikma: i use baggins and poisoner instead of oapplication, myself |
| 21:54.19 | Mikma | kergoth: poor you :( |
| 21:54.57 | Antiarc|Work | I use, uh, my character sheet and tiny buttons on Bartender :x |
| 21:55.13 | Antiarc|Work | Because really, four clicks per 30 minutes isn't unmanagable. |
| 21:55.43 | kergoth | <3 poisoner |
| 21:56.31 | ckknight | hey all |
| 21:57.20 | Bam_DK | howdy |
| 21:57.32 | Antiarc|Work | Heya ck |
| 21:59.19 | snurre | lol @ our new guild name :p |
| 21:59.28 | snurre | Drop the Soap |
| 21:59.51 | Antiarc|Work | TheKarn: Another thing I'm thinking of doing is allowing you to set a max number of rows (and you already set items per row), and if the # of items in the bag goes over the max slots, you get pages that you can page through with back/forward buttons |
| 22:00.24 | TheKarn | nice :) |
| 22:00.24 | TheKarn | can you make the mousewheel flip between pages aswell? |
| 22:00.28 | Antiarc|Work | Probably could. |
| 22:00.42 | Antiarc|Work | So you could have an AllInOn-type display, locked to 6x6 slots, then page through multiple pages in your inventory |
| 22:00.44 | Antiarc|Work | Or just search it. |
| 22:01.07 | Bam_DK | Antiarc|Work: are you using secure buttons? |
| 22:01.24 | *** join/#wowace Telrin (n=test@shandalar.xs4all.nl) |
| 22:02.20 | Antiarc|Work | Bam_DK: I'm just inheriting my slots from ContainerFrameItemButtonTemplate |
| 22:02.49 | Bam_DK | yea I'm doing the same.. but I noticed you were using secure buttons in Sanity |
| 22:03.02 | Antiarc|Work | Yeah, that was done back when I was being stupid :P |
| 22:03.07 | Bam_DK | hehe |
| 22:03.08 | Antiarc|Work | I did my research better this time. |
| 22:03.52 | Bam_DK | I also tried.. but it doesnt look like there is any way to have mousewheel affect the state of secure buttons which I need |
| 22:04.32 | Antiarc|Work | You can't hook the mousewheel events? |
| 22:04.37 | Antiarc|Work | Or rather, setscript |
| 22:05.07 | Bam_DK | yes but I'd need to be able to specifiy a state-change in the secure attributes |
| 22:05.12 | Antiarc|Work | Aha, ok. |
| 22:05.29 | ckknight | surely there's a way |
| 22:05.50 | Bam_DK | you think? Secure buttons only seem to react to clicks |
| 22:06.05 | Antiarc|Work | A mouse wheel click is effectively a button click |
| 22:06.30 | Antiarc|Work | At least hardware-wise |
| 22:06.33 | Antiarc|Work | Dunno if WoW thinks that |
| 22:06.34 | Bam_DK | hmm... could be... but I havent seen the name of the "click" mentioned anywhere |
| 22:06.56 | Bam_DK | all mouse buttons are specified using just numbers 1-5 in secure attributes |
| 22:07.56 | Nickenyfiken | vhaarr: Im not sure now but i think i saw you made the last commits to GroupFu. It's buggy when Roll clearing is set tot Never. |
| 22:09.38 | *** join/#wowace harldephin (i=harl@dslb-084-063-120-173.pools.arcor-ip.net) |
| 22:09.41 | Chompers | hrm, any way to get some gold on a ptr? |
| 22:09.49 | Chompers | i'd like to try out a few things |
| 22:10.36 | Bam_DK | do some easy quests in Outland? :P |
| 22:10.44 | Chompers | lulz |
| 22:11.10 | Bam_DK | a PTR char must have all quests available, right? |
| 22:11.48 | Chompers | besides the ones i've done before? |
| 22:11.52 | Bam_DK | oh it's a copied char |
| 22:11.56 | Chompers | yeah |
| 22:12.06 | nevcairiel | sell your epix, copy char again |
| 22:12.28 | Chompers | good idea |
| 22:12.42 | nevcairiel | or, get money from some friends |
| 22:12.45 | nevcairiel | copy char |
| 22:12.47 | nevcairiel | give money back |
| 22:13.02 | nevcairiel | thats what i did for BC beta |
| 22:13.08 | nevcairiel | to get a mount :) |
| 22:13.26 | Bibi`ouF | [00:09:38] <Chompers> hrm, any way to get some gold on a ptr? |
| 22:13.31 | Bibi`ouF | sure. /Script SILVER_PER_GOLD=0.0000000001 |
| 22:13.33 | Bibi`ouF | here you go, tons of gold |
| 22:14.07 | Bam_DK | lol |
| 22:14.41 | Arrowmaster | Chompers: you honored with violeteye? |
| 22:15.31 | Chompers | yeah |
| 22:15.44 | Arrowmaster | vendor stuff from t5 boxes |
| 22:17.14 | Antiarc|Work | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pzgUCbtUXzM&embed=1 |
| 22:17.30 | Ominous | whats wrong with function ClassTimerFu["TimerFu_party"..i.."_BuffFade"](self, id)? |
| 22:18.24 | NightHawkTheSane | Antiarc|Work: lol |
| 22:19.16 | kergoth | Ominous: you may need to do (ClassTimerFu["TimerFu_party"..i.."_BuffFade"])(self, id) instead |
| 22:19.41 | ckknight | lol, Antiarc|Work |
| 22:20.16 | Ominous | dosent work kergoth |
| 22:20.54 | kergoth | paste the exact line, and what the error is. |
| 22:23.10 | Ominous | god dammit this laptop is slow |
| 22:23.46 | Ominous | http://ace.pastey.net/18280 |
| 22:24.08 | kergoth | oh, i see. yeah, thats not valid syntactically |
| 22:24.28 | kergoth | ClassTimerFu["TimerFu_party"..i.."_BuffFade"] = function(self, id) |
| 22:24.31 | kergoth | is what you want |
| 22:25.00 | Ominous | dammit i knew it was somnething basic |
| 22:25.32 | kergoth | the function foo() syntax is just syntactic sugar, and only works if the function name is a single identifier |
| 22:26.11 | *** join/#wowace JJSheets (n=monorail@74-136-100-20.dhcp.insightbb.com) |
| 22:27.10 | Ominous | ~whaleslap JJSheets |
| 22:27.14 | purl | ACTION beats JJSheets upside and over the head with a freakishly huge killer whale named Hugh |
| 22:27.16 | hugo | titulky |
| 22:27.22 | hugo | mt |
| 22:28.24 | CIA-31 | 03ckknight * r33922 10PitBull/ (filelist.wau pitbulllod.bat pitbulllod.sh): PitBull - added pitbulllod.bat, pitbulllod.sh, filelist.wau - note, doesn't really work yet cause there's no toc files involved. |
| 22:28.42 | *** join/#wowace Gezeitenkoenig (n=bla@p213.54.40.254.tisdip.tiscali.de) |
| 22:29.27 | Ominous | rofl ckknight i have to ask why have you added that if there are no tocs |
| 22:29.40 | ckknight | because my penis is larger than yours. |
| 22:29.43 | ckknight | bam! |
| 22:29.51 | Ominous | o'rly? |
| 22:30.00 | nevcairiel | hm |
| 22:30.01 | ckknight | srsly. |
| 22:30.09 | nevcairiel | wont that break now when WAU updates it? |
| 22:30.11 | Antiarc|Work | Ominous: I'd guess because Subversion is a good place to keep versions of files |
| 22:30.18 | Antiarc|Work | Not a publishing platform :) |
| 22:30.29 | ckknight | nevcairiel: probably. |
| 22:30.32 | *** join/#wowace JJSheets (n=monorail@74-136-100-20.dhcp.insightbb.com) |
| 22:30.38 | Ominous | the answer is yes |
| 22:30.44 | kergoth | damnit, some addon is resulting in me seeing 2 of every chat message somehow |
| 22:30.48 | kergoth | xloot says i loot 2 o fhtings i looted one of |
| 22:30.50 | kergoth | etc |
| 22:31.06 | sbu | wtb unit frame for fire/earth elemental :/ |
| 22:31.26 | Arrowmaster | not possible afaik |
| 22:31.27 | NightHawkTheSane | sbu srsly. >< |
| 22:31.35 | NightHawkTheSane | you can focus it, but that's a pain. |
| 22:31.58 | sbu | Arrowmaster: well, blizz should classify them as pets |
| 22:32.04 | Gezeitenkoenig | is there a way to enable the sound which is played when I click at NPCs or other things in ag_unitframes? |
| 22:32.11 | Arrowmaster | they are pets afaik, just not your pets |
| 22:32.11 | sbu | kergoth: cheater, zomg duplicate explotit |
| 22:32.12 | kergoth | this is weird |
| 22:32.20 | CIA-31 | 03ckknight * r33923 10PitBull/Aura/PitBull_Aura.toc: PitBull - add PitBull_Aura.toc |
| 22:32.32 | *** join/#wowace harldephin (i=harl@dslb-084-063-101-233.pools.arcor-ip.net) |
| 22:32.32 | Antiarc|Work | why not just make a mashable macro that does a /cast SummonPet, /focus Petname? |
| 22:32.56 | Punkie` | Sooooo how close to accurate is ArenaPointer? :) |
| 22:33.02 | Antiarc|Work | It's pretty close. |
| 22:33.18 | Punkie` | awesome |
| 22:33.34 | sbu | Antiarc|Work: works fine until you need focus for some other unit ;o |
| 22:33.34 | Punkie` | Is it usually an under or over estimate btw? |
| 22:33.44 | NightHawkTheSane | Antiarc|Work: no guarantee that you get YOUR elemental, either. |
| 22:33.49 | Antiarc|Work | Was slightly over for me last week, Punkie` |
| 22:33.51 | Hjalte | What determines whether the 3d portrait is full-size or just head in Pitbull? |
| 22:33.53 | sbu | right |
| 22:33.54 | Antiarc|Work | NightHawkTheSane: Yeah, but it's better than nothing. |
| 22:33.59 | Punkie` | Ok, cheers Antiarc :) |
| 22:34.21 | Arrowmaster | Punkie`: blizz published the forumlas so it should be 99.9% or so unless theres weird rounding they dont mention |
| 22:34.50 | NightHawkTheSane | Antiarc|Work: certainly, but not really as good as making it a full fledged pet would be. Not to mention the ability to control it more than "Here, kill things" :P |
| 22:35.01 | Antiarc|Work | No argument :) |
| 22:35.05 | Punkie` | Ah! Awesome :) |
| 22:35.06 | Antiarc|Work | They work more as guardians than pets, right? |
| 22:35.15 | Antiarc|Work | Like the peasant caller. |
| 22:35.31 | vhaarr | Nickenyfiken: GroupFu is mine, I rewrote it from scratch. |
| 22:35.37 | NightHawkTheSane | yeah, except tethered to a totem. |
| 22:35.43 | vhaarr | Nickenyfiken: I'll take a look at roll clearing. |
| 22:36.16 | Nickenyfiken | vhaarr: ah i see, well it reports the winner after just 1 roll |
| 22:36.23 | vhaarr | Nickenyfiken: oh |
| 22:36.40 | Nickenyfiken | so it will report a winner on time for each roll |
| 22:36.58 | vhaarr | alright |
| 22:38.50 | jaete | http://ace.pastey.net/18283 |
| 22:39.13 | ckknight | Hjalte: whether it's bugged or not |
| 22:39.22 | CIA-31 | 03ckknight * r33924 10PitBull/ (17 files in 17 dirs): |
| 22:39.23 | CIA-31 | PitBull - add tocs to other modules. |
| 22:39.23 | CIA-31 | Note: Authors of modules, please change the author to your name, and possibly give a real description. |
| 22:43.23 | CIA-31 | 03kemayo * r33925 10PitBull/Portrait/PitBull_Portrait.toc: PitBull(Portrait): Jawohl, mein fuhrer! |
| 22:43.47 | ckknight | what's Jawohl? |
| 22:43.55 | trh | military "yes" |
| 22:44.04 | ckknight | ~x de en Jawohl |
| 22:44.13 | Kemayo | 'ja' is 'yes', and 'wohl' makes it very emphatic. |
| 22:44.28 | Mikma | it's german |
| 22:44.46 | Mikma | means something like "yes, my leader" |
| 22:44.49 | Sais | Well...apart from something they don't use (or so I'm told) |
| 22:44.50 | trh | yep... but fuhrer isn't a german word.. in fact, it doesn't exist :P |
| 22:45.05 | Mikma | it's führer |
| 22:45.12 | trh | Mikma: shhh :P |
| 22:45.20 | Mikma | mein herr |
| 22:45.25 | nomenquis | actually this was used by nazis |
| 22:45.32 | Kemayo | Picky, picky, picky. :P |
| 22:45.38 | Mikma | poke poke poke |
| 22:45.52 | sbu | ~emulate Mikma |
| 22:45.56 | purl | [ND]_afk: It's broken, fix it! |
| 22:46.19 | sbu | ~MSBT |
| 22:46.21 | purl | i heard msbt is Mikord's Scrolling Battle Text, a possible SCT replacement, found at http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info5153-2.0.html |
| 22:46.22 | sbu | ah :) |
| 22:46.31 | sbu | wheres the mikma part? :o |
| 22:46.37 | Sais | nomenquis: I wasn't sure whether the German who told me that was saying they don't use it for that reason, or that they didn't use it - it was just a "hollywoodism"... |
| 22:46.42 | NightHawkTheSane | I really hate when I have an artist on shuffle and it goes from one track to the exact same song on a different cd. >< |
| 22:47.28 | Punkie` | hehe |
| 22:47.28 | trh | Sais: afaik only high ranked military and goverment used it in direct communication with the führer |
| 22:47.40 | nomenquis | wel, hitler was refered to as 'der fuehrer', so 'jawohl mein fuehrer' would more or less be saying 'ok' to hitler ... |
| 22:47.49 | trh | Sais: wouldn't make sense in other conversations |
| 22:48.07 | nomenquis | yea, exactly |
| 22:48.14 | trh | nomenquis: it basically is the common known "affirmative" used by the military |
| 22:48.28 | nomenquis | though everyone said fuehrer to hitler, not just military folks |
| 22:48.34 | trh | nomenquis: true |
| 22:48.37 | break19 | or, as they'd say in the US military - Yes Sir! |
| 22:48.43 | trh | break19: yea |
| 22:48.45 | Punkie` | nah |
| 22:48.48 | trh | break19: basically the same :) |
| 22:48.50 | Punkie` | its more lame, like |
| 22:48.51 | *** join/#wowace Herio (n=Kevin@ekm-s-216-160.resnet.CSUChico.EDU) |
| 22:48.52 | nomenquis | well, in this case it would be yes gorge instead of the sir ^^ |
| 22:48.54 | Punkie` | Sir! Yes Sir! |
| 22:49.00 | Herio | CORKFU WANTS ME TO SHUCK A CLAM |
| 22:49.03 | Herio | WHAT IS UP WITH THAT? |
| 22:49.08 | ckknight | NO U |
| 22:49.15 | NightHawkTheSane | Herio: best get shucking. |
| 22:49.16 | Punkie` | haha |
| 22:49.26 | break19 | shuck you |
| 22:49.27 | nomenquis | aw, saying stuff like that isn't considered too clever in the german speaking areas |
| 22:49.27 | NightHawkTheSane | It's shucking awesome! |
| 22:49.43 | trh | nomenquis: actually they can put you in jail for it |
| 22:50.06 | ckknight | hooray for free speech, eh? |
| 22:50.11 | *** join/#wowace Devilkoul (n=c@207.55.232.253) |
| 22:50.12 | nomenquis | germans? doubt that it would count as 'wiederbetaetigung' but i sure as hell won't try it ^^ |
| 22:50.21 | ckknight | it's better to inform them of their flaws rather than to shush them by force, imho |
| 22:50.29 | trh | ckknight: na.. only if you use it 'seriously' not for education or for fun |
| 22:50.30 | Bam_DK | free beer is better |
| 22:50.31 | break19 | shuck this clam.. go shuck it yourself.. |
| 22:50.36 | *** part/#wowace Punkie` (n=~@host86-130-2-120.range86-130.btcentralplus.com) |
| 22:50.38 | nomenquis | well, free speech is a nice thing to have. but i'm actually glad that there are some limits for what you can say |
| 22:50.43 | ckknight | trh: does that matter? still fucked |
| 22:51.08 | ckknight | can you even legitimately question the 6 million number without being thrown in jail? |
| 22:51.26 | nomenquis | no, and thats a sane and good law imo |
| 22:51.27 | trh | ckknight: well.. it's a nice thing to have to possibility to put neonazis in jail when they are reacting 2nd ww |
| 22:51.46 | break19 | unbelievable. |
| 22:52.00 | trh | ckknight: sure you can |
| 22:52.10 | break19 | I dont agree with you, if you say "it didnt happen" but I'll stand beside you to defend you the right to say it. |
| 22:52.13 | ckknight | when will that extend to the point where you can't say anything politicians don't like, nomenquis |
| 22:52.14 | trh | ckknight: as long as it's science and not stupid talk |
| 22:52.32 | ckknight | right, break19 |
| 22:52.35 | ckknight | I think it happened |
| 22:52.56 | CIA-31 | 03ckknight * r33926 10PitBull/ (18 files in 18 dirs): PitBull - added `if select(6, GetAddOnInfo("PitBull_Whatever")) ~= "MISSING" then return end` to the top of the lua files, so that I can ln -s instead of having to move them. |
| 22:52.57 | ckknight | I mean, if Hitler didn't kill anyone or if he killed a measly 120,000 as some people say, then why is he still so revered? |
| 22:53.26 | vodrin | was a big grind to exalted |
| 22:53.34 | ckknight | lol |
| 22:53.46 | trh | ckknight: does it really matter if he killed 4million or 6 million? |
| 22:53.48 | ckknight | 1 jew per 5 rep points? |
| 22:53.51 | vodrin | i'm going to hell |
| 22:53.57 | nomenquis | probably ^^ |
| 22:54.04 | ckknight | it's okay, homosexuals only give you 3 rep |
| 22:54.04 | break19 | more like 5 jews per 1 rep point. |
| 22:54.29 | break19 | and catholics give 1 to 1 |
| 22:54.39 | break19 | <- catholic by the way :p |
| 22:54.48 | ckknight | trh: frankly yes, I think the numbers are overblown _slightly_. The 6 million mark is about 2-3 million too much, imho. Not to say it isn't a goddamn tragedy or that Hitler wasn't a nutcase |
| 22:55.06 | ckknight | oh dang, gotta go to class |
| 22:55.17 | Thrae | ckknight: They are probably counting the people killed indirectly by the actions of the Nazi occupation |
| 22:55.20 | nomenquis | no, you have to level your druid :) |
| 22:55.31 | trh | ckknight: ya.. but why discuss exact numbers? better make sure it doesnt happen again |
| 22:55.33 | ckknight | Thrae: that's probably much closer, but still not 100% there |
| 22:55.40 | kenlyric | six million is total. Not just concentration camps. |
| 22:55.47 | Kemayo | (Someday I shall publish my book: "Derailing IRC channels with Hitler for fun and profit" |
| 22:55.48 | ckknight | btw: my sister-in-law's a jew and I consider the jews a strong and noble people that we can learn from |
| 22:56.18 | vodrin | i consider them as crazy as any other person in this world </pc> |
| 22:56.29 | *** part/#wowace Devilkoul (n=c@207.55.232.253) |
| 22:56.46 | trh | i do hope the usa don't start the 3rd WW against the muslims :/ |
| 22:56.56 | snurre | didnt they already? |
| 22:56.58 | kenlyric | no, they're crazier. They came out of the holocaust, looked at Palestine and thought "we should live there" :) |
| 22:57.01 | NightHawkTheSane | Kemayo: I'm pretty sure godwin's law already covers taht |
| 22:57.14 | kenlyric | I would have been thinking "idaho" |
| 22:57.18 | vodrin | lol |
| 22:57.23 | nomenquis | rofl |
| 22:57.44 | vodrin | same shit with ireland |
| 22:57.50 | vodrin | sending protestants over |
| 22:57.52 | vodrin | mega sigh |
| 22:57.57 | trh | yeah.. what the jews did after the 2WW with palestine wasn't ok either... still don't know why the US protect them so much in this question |
| 22:58.19 | break19 | kergoth: amen |
| 22:58.23 | kenlyric | trh: to be fair, they didn't do it. The UN did it. |
| 22:58.30 | break19 | kenlyric: exactly. |
| 22:58.33 | kenlyric | more correctly, Britain and France did it. |
| 22:59.03 | break19 | russia did as well.. remember, they could have veto'd the action, and by not veto'ing it.. they allowed it. |
| 22:59.06 | trh | kenlyric: the UN definitely didn't approced the territorial increase wars after the founding |
| 22:59.14 | trh | approved |
| 22:59.22 | trh | that's what i was referring to |
| 22:59.23 | NightHawkTheSane | trh: because israel gives the US a lot of money, and is more than amenable to american interests. *shrug* |
| 22:59.40 | break19 | trh: they were attacked and responded in kind. thats what you do when people attack you. |
| 23:00.13 | art3mis | hrm wheres a good palce for a 45 pally to farm |
| 23:00.15 | art3mis | place |
| 23:00.21 | art3mis | im bored |
| 23:00.29 | art3mis | and im kind of sick of questing |
| 23:00.38 | break19 | the palestinians (and others) were pissed.. and attacked israel.. israel defended itself.. to the victor go the spoils.. |
| 23:00.39 | trh | break19: uh.. no.. they weren't attacked |
| 23:00.41 | nomenquis | feralas |
| 23:00.56 | Gngsk | art3mis, undead in stv |
| 23:00.59 | *** join/#wowace JJSheets (n=jjsheets@74-136-100-20.dhcp.insightbb.com) |
| 23:00.59 | kenlyric | mmm... what's that zone... starts with an A |
| 23:01.09 | art3mis | azshara |
| 23:01.17 | NightHawkTheSane | Ashenvale? |
| 23:01.17 | kenlyric | that's it. |
| 23:01.21 | art3mis | hrm |
| 23:01.27 | trh | break19: six-day war = "preventive" strike from israel |
| 23:01.28 | break19 | yea they were, and in fact, even after reducing their size to LESS than the UN gave them originally, they were still being attacked by terrorists |
| 23:02.13 | art3mis | isreal was given land they dont deserve |
| 23:02.16 | Bam_DK | question about RegisterBucketEvent: if you set delay = 0, how is that handled if there are also more than one event? |
| 23:02.19 | art3mis | and palestine is fighting to take it back |
| 23:02.20 | trh | break19: oh.. so a attack by terrorists is like a official war declaration.. i forgot.. thats US logic |
| 23:02.24 | break19 | no, trh, the preventative strike from israel was on iraq's nuclear reactor. |
| 23:02.31 | Antiarc|Work | :O |
| 23:02.34 | art3mis | the us needs to keep its nose out of the middle east or some other big things are gonna topple |
| 23:02.35 | Antiarc|Work | http://wow.tachyonsix.com/kaelweapons.jpg |
| 23:02.38 | kenlyric | meh, nobody deservs land. You always take it by force. |
| 23:02.43 | break19 | trh: I dont care *who* attacks me.. I WILL kick your ass. period |
| 23:02.44 | *** join/#wowace Punkie` (n=~@host86-130-2-120.range86-130.btcentralplus.com) |
| 23:02.45 | Antiarc|Work | Only usable during the Kael encounter in TK, apparently |
| 23:02.45 | trh | break19: no, the strike against the nuclear reactor was after the six day war |
| 23:02.46 | kenlyric | Always and forever every bit of land on this planet. |
| 23:02.47 | Antiarc|Work | But still, :O |
| 23:03.01 | break19 | trh: correct, which is why I said it, because you are confusing the two. |
| 23:03.15 | vodrin | lol that shield |
| 23:03.23 | trh | break19: both were initiated by israel, not by other countries (at least not direct) |
| 23:03.37 | *** part/#wowace Punkie` (n=~@host86-130-2-120.range86-130.btcentralplus.com) |
| 23:03.59 | Ominous | im an idiot, for druids my timer created 50 of the same function but with different names instead of just adding a cvariable to the function call |
| 23:04.01 | NightHawkTheSane | Antiarc|Work: way to be four hours ago :P |
| 23:04.15 | Antiarc|Work | Fine :( |
| 23:04.24 | art3mis | ken:thats true an extent |
| 23:04.24 | kenlyric | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arab-Israeli_conflict#1949-June_11.2C_1967 |
| 23:04.38 | art3mis | except when the patch of land is defnded by people who dont live there ;P |
| 23:04.49 | kenlyric | no, not to an extent. Everything. Even fucking canada. |
| 23:05.06 | kenlyric | people fought over *canada*! |
| 23:05.08 | break19 | well.. trh.. unfortunately, while ignorance is repairable, blind stupidity is not, and it's not fair for me to argue with a blind man. |
| 23:05.18 | art3mis | yeah and if i remember right we kicked your asses ;P |
| 23:05.24 | CIA-31 | 03ominous * r33927 10FuBar_ClassTimerFu/ (8 files in 2 dirs): FuBar_ClassTimerFu: Added Druid, Warlock, Paladin (unteasted), added party and raid for druid and paladins (untested) as i dont have them on test realm |
| 23:05.27 | break19 | so I'll drop the conversation and go afk. |
| 23:05.41 | break19 | ooh. something I can catch onto.. |
| 23:05.58 | trh | break19: get more accurate sources |
| 23:06.06 | break19 | hey Ominous, is this combining/replacing your RogueTimerFu and WarlockTimerFu addons? |
| 23:06.26 | art3mis | but anyways, it would be akin to say russia(hypothetically speaking) moving everyone out of rhode island and telling some serbians that its thiers now |
| 23:06.44 | art3mis | you cant tell me that you wouldnt be justified adn pissed to take back that little chunk of land |
| 23:06.56 | Bam_DK | wiki down? |
| 23:07.11 | Bam_DK | ahh.. just slow :P |
| 23:07.23 | art3mis | but to then have russian hold releaseing china to defend it IF you even looked at an ally is inane and plain bullying on a world market under the guise of fairness |
| 23:07.37 | art3mis | isreal needs to be glassed |
| 23:07.42 | art3mis | i fucking hate that country |
| 23:07.49 | kenlyric | art3mis: it qould be like russia doing that exact same thing in Chechnya... which they have done, with similar results :) |
| 23:07.54 | art3mis | (after we move all the hot isreali chicks out of course) |
| 23:08.09 | trh | break19: after the creation of israel, israel directly started their "independence" war, "Jom haAtzma'ut" until july 49 => 49 peace paper signed |
| 23:08.13 | break19 | art3mis: well. considering israel existed long before WW2 or even WW1, like a thousand years ago, and was destroyed by maurading muslims, who's to say that restoring it was a bad idea? |
| 23:08.15 | Ominous | break19: yea but not till 2.1 |
| 23:08.19 | art3mis | and yet we call them communists and terrorists and constantly claim they are in the wrong ;P |
| 23:08.22 | *** join/#wowace Cryect (n=fefsd@pool-68-162-148-242.pitt.east.verizon.net) |
| 23:08.41 | *** join/#wowace chutwig (n=edmundrh@pool-151-204-65-224.delv.east.verizon.net) |
| 23:08.51 | art3mis | break19: remember that whole force thing? thats not gonna stop ;) |
| 23:08.55 | trh | break19: 29. october israels troops invade gaza stripe |
| 23:09.08 | *** join/#wowace Cheads (i=chead@0x5731602e.virnxx18.adsl-dhcp.tele.dk) |
| 23:09.11 | art3mis | i need to find that coloured land mass map |
| 23:09.15 | trh | break19: after pressure from us and other countries, they go back |
| 23:09.34 | art3mis | someone made a map of the middle east and europ and northern africa from around 6000BC to show the change of ownership through history |
| 23:09.50 | trh | break19: 5. june 67 six-day war (started by israel, "preventive") |
| 23:09.59 | *** join/#wowace Amadeo (n=amadeo@c-68-50-168-95.hsd1.md.comcast.net) |
| 23:10.01 | art3mis | its the most volitile region... and it was a lot more peacful until the un stepped in and said "okay you guys move" |
| 23:10.21 | break19 | and yet.. people *like* the un.. funny huh |
| 23:10.38 | art3mis | i like the concept of the un |
| 23:10.44 | break19 | i dont |
| 23:10.47 | trh | break19: after that israel invaded the gaza and sinai again... and so on |
| 23:10.51 | art3mis | i dont like how the un bends to the wills of certain countries though |
| 23:10.58 | break19 | a single world government? scary stuff |
| 23:11.03 | art3mis | not really |
| 23:11.09 | break19 | oh yes it is |
| 23:11.16 | Ominous | break19: but if ur on the test realm id love some teting |
| 23:11.16 | break19 | there's too much government in the world already. |
| 23:11.18 | art3mis | break go read some books from the ender saga |
| 23:11.20 | renchap | hi guys :) i need some testers for a new website (free hosting for wow guilds). i need to check my english translation of the site : http://beta.wowguild.info . Thats beta, so i will delete all sites in few days, but if you want to test it :) |
| 23:11.21 | NightHawkTheSane | its not scary, its the only way this pathetic species is going to -get- anywhere other than mutually lassured descturction |
| 23:11.25 | break19 | Ominous: I'm not. |
| 23:11.26 | NightHawkTheSane | gaaah, spelling for the lose. |
| 23:11.27 | art3mis | Shadow of the Hedgemon and Shadow of Ender |
| 23:11.47 | break19 | pathetic? speak for yourself.. |
| 23:11.49 | art3mis | oddly thats almost an EXACT potential of the world govt idea and what the world ios presently moving towards |
| 23:12.08 | trh | NightHawkTheSane: even the UN won't resolve that, it'll only help too keep the species alive a bit longer |
| 23:12.27 | NightHawkTheSane | trh: true, but its a step in the right direction, as you say, it keep us alive a little longer. :) |
| 23:12.34 | art3mis | the only major flaw in the un policy and ideal right now is the USA |
| 23:12.42 | art3mis | actting as both insitgator and hero |
| 23:12.44 | chutwig | er |
| 23:12.49 | break19 | art3mis: how the hell can you even believe that? the UN hates the usa |
| 23:13.01 | chutwig | have you perchance not paid any attention to all those dictators and countries with gross human rights violations |
| 23:13.02 | art3mis | the bully of the playground that pushes everyone around and then makes itself to be a savior when the little kids fight back |
| 23:13.06 | snurre | everyone does, break :p |
| 23:13.08 | NightHawkTheSane | break19: when we're not fighting over who gets to exhaust our natural resources and rape the earth first, while completely ignoring human rights, then come and talk to me. |
| 23:13.12 | break19 | snurre: I dont |
| 23:13.13 | trh | break19: lol? they didn't really interveined in any of the NOT-UN approved wars the us started? |
| 23:14.28 | break19 | NightHawkTheSane: who's ignoring human rights? you mean the people in germany that make it illegal to question certain things? or maybe the people in saudi arabia confiscating bibles from christians? or perhaps you mean the people in china forcing mothers to have unwanted abortions? |
| 23:14.36 | trh | chutwig: ya.. forget the fact that in many of them the U.S. installed the dictator ;) |
| 23:14.40 | Ominous | is it me or is dev.wowace.com slow tonight |
| 23:15.02 | NightHawkTheSane | break19: i mean more or less everyone. |
| 23:15.08 | chutwig | trh: that's an off-the-cuff remark that doesn't actually address the point |
| 23:15.18 | chutwig | the UN has a lot more wrong with it than just the US, is my point |
| 23:15.33 | NightHawkTheSane | chutwig: yeah, it does. but its still better than nothing. |
| 23:15.41 | trh | chutwig: anyway, these countries are approved by the US as independent and lawfully |
| 23:15.54 | chutwig | blaming the fat stupid americans for all the ills of the world is inaccurate and asinine |
| 23:15.56 | trh | chutwig: so starting invading them is beginning a war |
| 23:16.17 | trh | s/US/UN |
| 23:16.31 | CIA-31 | 03ominous * r33928 10FuBar_ClassTimerFu/ (4 files in 2 dirs): FuBar_ClassTimerFu: yet again unteasted... removed un-neaded functions |
| 23:16.43 | kenlyric | the UN as a diplomatic function is a very good and wildly successful idea. Do they prevent all conflicts? no, but there's far more diplomacy going on that could be possible without it. |
| 23:16.45 | NightHawkTheSane | blaming america for -all- the ills of the world is certainly inaccurate, but we've certainly got more tan our fair share of ills to be responsible for. |
| 23:16.49 | break19 | trh: fine.. I'll shoot at you from my house.. if you come IN my house to get me.. then you are the invader, and therefore the bad guy |
| 23:16.49 | trh | chutwig: i only blame ~50% of the americans for a damn bad choice at the elections :P |
| 23:17.09 | NightHawkTheSane | trh: actually, blame the administration for rigging the vote. |
| 23:17.09 | break19 | me too.. the assholes who cant see past their noses and vote for morons like gore and kerry |
| 23:17.23 | NightHawkTheSane | twice, to be sure. |
| 23:17.36 | trh | NightHawkTheSane: in future the electronic voting machines do it ;) |
| 23:17.43 | chutwig | trh: germany has a looooong way to go before you can afford to take the moral high ground on these things |
| 23:18.05 | trh | chutwig: oh ya.. killer-argument of the US.... "we helped you 60 years ago.. STFU" |
| 23:18.11 | NightHawkTheSane | trh: indeed, why waste valuable goon manpower rigging votes when you can have electronics do it anyway. Idiotic voters wont know the difference anyway |
| 23:18.16 | trh | chutwig: very grown-up |
| 23:18.30 | kenlyric | chutwig: yeah, their despots were voted in by overwhelming majority ;) |
| 23:18.42 | NightHawkTheSane | kenlyric: lol |
| 23:18.56 | chutwig | kenlyric: you should probably study the history of the NSDAP first |
| 23:19.10 | chutwig | and my comment had nothing to do with the marshall plan |
| 23:19.21 | break19 | fuck this.. there are too many dumbass social elitists in here thinking they are better than everyone else and better than ME sinply because they say I'mn wrong.. so fuck you |
| 23:19.39 | Chompers | :/ |
| 23:19.43 | Chompers | what was his problem? |
| 23:19.50 | NightHawkTheSane | he was wrong. :P |
| 23:19.51 | JJSheets | he voted for Bush? |
| 23:19.51 | chutwig | göring was spot-on when he said that all you have to do to win elections is stir up people's patriotism and denounce anyone who questions it as unpatriotic |
| 23:19.58 | kenlyric | lol |
| 23:20.00 | Funkeh` | wow server is slooow |
| 23:20.04 | kenlyric | we've all been out-debated by break19 |
| 23:20.09 | kenlyric | back to the mods. |
| 23:20.11 | trh | chutwig: thats what's currently done in most countries :( |
| 23:20.28 | NightHawkTheSane | And yeah, in case anyone was confused, break19 was right. I am totally socially elitist and I -do- think i'm better than everyone else. :) |
| 23:20.32 | trh | chutwig: but actually i think that göring quoted that from göbbels |
| 23:20.38 | Chompers | kerry did suck though |
| 23:20.41 | kenlyric | I *am* better than everyone else. |
| 23:20.46 | chutwig | trh: whoever said it first, it's still true |
| 23:20.52 | Chompers | god he droned on and on and oonnnnn |
| 23:21.00 | snurre | NightHawkTheSane: i beg to differ. I'm clearly better than anyone else, hence you cannot be. |
| 23:21.12 | chutwig | it's easy to get people to go along with a herd mentality, and the worst things ever committed are done in the name of said conformity |
| 23:21.15 | NightHawkTheSane | Chompers: probably so, yes, but can you honestly say he would have been any WORSE? |
| 23:21.17 | trh | chutwig: ya... it's alarming how that is used to get votes... (even in germany) |
| 23:21.31 | Chompers | hell no |
| 23:21.46 | chutwig | they're all useless |
| 23:21.48 | kenlyric | go school! |
| 23:21.54 | Chompers | he was the least shitty choice of the two |
| 23:21.56 | chutwig | dick cheney and karl rove are a special kind of evil, though |
| 23:22.01 | chutwig | we like to call them "pure evil" |
| 23:22.07 | snurre | i finished reading 1984 yesterday, there are more than a few similarities between oceania and US today |
| 23:22.09 | NightHawkTheSane | Chompers: thats more or less how any election works. |
| 23:22.19 | *** join/#wowace Cheadser (i=chead@0x5731602e.virnxx18.adsl-dhcp.tele.dk) |
| 23:22.21 | chutwig | snurre: there are similarities between oceania and every country |
| 23:22.24 | Chompers | yeah, unfortunatly |
| 23:22.24 | NightHawkTheSane | Chompers: If i could vote for Clinton again, i totally would. Best President Ever. |
| 23:22.26 | chutwig | anyone can find comparisons and similaritie |
| 23:22.27 | chutwig | s |
| 23:22.51 | trh | NightHawkTheSane: i think most foreign countries would agree with that :) |
| 23:22.52 | NightHawkTheSane | well, except maybe like.. lincoln or something. I suppose he gets points for stuff. |
| 23:23.01 | JJSheets | If I had a daughter, I'd vote for Clinton, and insist she go cuban cigar with him. |
| 23:23.19 | JJSheets | that's how much I liked Clinton. |
| 23:23.24 | NightHawkTheSane | trh: heh, i'm not even kidding. The man was a great president |
| 23:23.28 | trh | JJSheets: i still don't get why the US-folks were so upset about that :) |
| 23:23.37 | Mikma | well |
| 23:23.42 | chutwig | the republicans made a lot of noise out of it |
| 23:23.45 | chutwig | most people didn't give a shit |
| 23:23.47 | Mikma | atleast the world found out that Monica swallows |
| 23:23.47 | NightHawkTheSane | We weren't. The -republicans in power- made it a big deal to get scandal out of it |
| 23:23.52 | kenlyric | and, to be fair, he did commit a crime. |
| 23:23.54 | trh | JJSheets: sure.. it isn't politically correct, but hell.. it's his private life and didn't affected his presidential stuff |
| 23:24.04 | JJSheets | trh, Americans are idiotic arrogant, hypocritical, morally clueless elitist shit-heads. That's why. |
| 23:24.16 | chutwig | easy on the generalizations, champ |
| 23:24.20 | Chompers | only a few of them |
| 23:24.20 | JJSheets | lol |
| 23:24.23 | trh | JJSheets: wouldn't say it that way... but on some topics thats true |
| 23:24.41 | kenlyric | germans are all nazis |
| 23:24.44 | JJSheets | lol |
| 23:24.51 | kenlyric | that'sa bout as true as what you just said. |
| 23:24.58 | NightHawkTheSane | I wouldn't say americans are 'morally clueless'. I think the term is 'easily mislead' |
| 23:25.08 | Chompers | and all brits drink tea |
| 23:25.10 | chutwig | people the world over are as easily mislead |
| 23:25.11 | Chompers | oh wait... |
| 23:25.14 | NightHawkTheSane | misled, rather |
| 23:25.17 | chutwig | it's just that when it happens to america more people notice |
| 23:25.18 | JJSheets | true... but you gotta admit, the world holds that as a stereotype of us, and the most vocal Americans prove the stereotype. |
| 23:25.20 | trh | kenlyric: well.. don't you agree with the strange moral stuff about sex/violence? |
| 23:25.42 | trh | kenlyric: like even showing a boob is a major scandal, whereas they kill people with gore and maximum violence in afternoon program? |
| 23:25.43 | NightHawkTheSane | chutwig: true, sadly. America's like that big fat guy in the theatre. WHen he needs to move, everyone notices. |
| 23:26.04 | chutwig | paul trudeau said once that being friends with america is like sleeping with an elephant |
| 23:26.12 | chutwig | no matter how nice the animal is, you notice every twitch and grunt |
| 23:26.16 | kenlyric | trh: no. A) again, it's not every american and B) it's no different than Europe's strange moral stuff about violence/sex. |
| 23:26.33 | trh | kenlyric: i'm sure not every american thinks so, but alot do :) |
| 23:26.33 | Kemayo | It is considered polite not to ask how Paul Trudeau knew this. |
| 23:26.33 | chutwig | no different than german video games having green/black blood |
| 23:26.40 | NightHawkTheSane | trh: honestly, there's no consistent morality wrt sex/violence. It's all about how the Powers that be can manipulate it to get what they want. |
| 23:26.48 | chutwig | every culture has their hangups |
| 23:26.59 | trh | chutwig: that's a myth.. german video games can have red blood, that's not forbidden, but only accessible to people > 18 years |
| 23:27.11 | chutwig | personally i'd rather look at boobs than blood and i fail to see why other people don't share that particular ideal, but hey |
| 23:27.13 | trh | chutwig: so the producers chose to use green blood, so they can sell it > 16 years |
| 23:27.16 | kenlyric | but europeans as a rule are very sensitive to violence. |
| 23:27.27 | Chompers | we are? |
| 23:27.30 | kenlyric | just as americans as a rule are sensitive to sex. |
| 23:27.49 | kenlyric | yeah, I lol at the kind of things you guys cut out of american TV shows. |
| 23:27.53 | chutwig | Chompers: it's not an unsafe default attitude to have |
| 23:28.06 | NightHawkTheSane | I think its safe to say that in large part, most of the people in here dont fit any of the generalizations or stereotypes we're mentioning, so its not worth getting your panties in a bunch over it. :P |
| 23:28.19 | JJSheets | exactly |
| 23:28.19 | Chompers | i dont think im the best person to comment on this though |
| 23:28.22 | trh | kenlyric: true, but only when it comes to children.. > 18 you can basically see and do everything you want concerning that |
| 23:28.29 | kenlyric | and, in both case, it's not universal, so it's unfair to say "Americans are sensitive to sex" |
| 23:28.54 | kenlyric | trh: it's still a hangup. It's just on a different side. |
| 23:28.59 | Chompers | perhaps its more "american media is sensitive to sex" |
| 23:29.01 | chutwig | i wouldn't want a kid of mine watching playboy at 5, but if he's 19 in college and has a ladyfriend, then they can do whatever they want as long as they're responsible |
| 23:29.10 | snurre | i just call them us'ians.. the term "american" should only be used in the same way as "european" |
| 23:29.19 | Chompers | or a guyfriend ;) |
| 23:29.33 | chutwig | or a guyfriend |
| 23:29.36 | chutwig | whichever |
| 23:29.43 | Arrowmaster | would be better to say that the "think of the children!" yells in america are about sex but in europe theyre about violence |
| 23:29.58 | kenlyric | Arrowmaster: there, you got it right on the nose. |
| 23:30.09 | kenlyric | except after school shootings. |
| 23:30.09 | trh | kenlyric: but not as strong as in the us... at least in my opinion.... i mean they show some violence in movies in the early evening program... but when they showed that boob of jackson.. omg it was in the news for like a week |
| 23:30.15 | JJSheets | I'm always amused by the parents that come in and get upset that their 17 year old son is looking up porn on the internet.... |
| 23:30.20 | chutwig | it's the mass media |
| 23:30.33 | chutwig | everywhere they're vultures, just looking for hot-button issues to sell more copies and get more ratings |
| 23:30.50 | Chompers | what do you americans think of hilary clinton? |
| 23:30.51 | chutwig | and for whatever idiotic reason janet jackson's saggy boob is headline-producing news for a month |
| 23:31.14 | JJSheets | well... as interesting as this conversation is, I'm gonna go play WoW now... |
| 23:31.16 | kenlyric | Chompers: evil, vile woman. |
| 23:31.17 | *** part/#wowace Antiarc|Work (n=cheald@208.187.119.42) |
| 23:31.36 | NightHawkTheSane | Chompers: if you're asking me, I think she's a sellout who's gone far too moderate just to appease the unwashed masses. But i'm a raving left wing lunatic. |
| 23:31.42 | chutwig | she's polarizing, and i don't really agree with her on her censorship views, but as far as candidates go, at least people actually have an opinion on her |
| 23:31.47 | chutwig | it's not like kerry where most people were like "meh" |
| 23:31.55 | trh | what do you guys think about that "obama" guy |
| 23:32.01 | *** join/#wowace bindi (n=indigo@d54C68DEA.access.telenet.be) |
| 23:32.05 | chutwig | heart's in the right place but not enough experience |
| 23:32.10 | NightHawkTheSane | agreed. |
| 23:32.15 | kenlyric | Chompers: and I'm a huge giant flaming democrat. I just can't stand that woman. Mostly because she's a huge proponent of censorship. |
| 23:32.52 | NightHawkTheSane | I really hope he doesnt try running for president in the next election. |
| 23:32.55 | Chompers | obamas got quite a bit of experience, or it looked like it from what i've read |
| 23:33.02 | chutwig | he doesn't |
| 23:33.05 | kenlyric | I would have voted for her before she became as senator. |
| 23:33.22 | chutwig | guiliani, honestly, is not a bad candidate even though he's a republican |
| 23:33.26 | trh | i only read about him in some german magazine and seen some clips of him in the daily show |
| 23:33.27 | chutwig | giuliani, too |
| 23:33.32 | *** join/#wowace Propp_ (i=prophy@cpe-66-65-84-109.nyc.res.rr.com) |
| 23:33.36 | Kemayo | I like Obama -- he's my preferred candidate out of the current crop. |
| 23:33.44 | chutwig | the democrat/republican label is meaningless without knowing where they're from |
| 23:33.54 | chutwig | a republican from the northeast might as well be a democrat |
| 23:33.56 | chutwig | dinner! |
| 23:34.10 | NightHawkTheSane | chutwig: eh, more or less true, but not quite. Giuliani's still too conservative for me. |
| 23:34.24 | NightHawkTheSane | I do like the guy, though. Probably be a decent congressman. |
| 23:34.26 | kenlyric | a democrat from the midwest is basically everybody's friend :) |
| 23:34.44 | trh | i think it's buce that there are only 2 big parties to choose from.. in german there are like 6 who got chances ;) |
| 23:35.04 | trh | buce = nice |
| 23:35.04 | NightHawkTheSane | trh: yeah, welcome to the biggest flaw in the american electoral system. |
| 23:35.07 | kenlyric | trh: yeah, our system should have an automatic runoff system like France has. That's awesome |
| 23:35.25 | kenlyric | political parties are forced to merge, even though they don't share a lot in common. |
| 23:35.52 | trh | kenlyric: well.. the problem with more than 2 parties is that the majority of people are idiots and are uninformed about the programs of the parties.. so they chose uninformed |
| 23:35.59 | kenlyric | like fiscal conservatives and social conservatives in the republican party... they're like opposite things, bound together by a tiny minority that are both. |
| 23:36.08 | trh | actually... thats the biggest flaw in democratic systems... people are stupid |
| 23:36.27 | Ominous | do you need to escape % in lua? |
| 23:36.31 | Ominous | in a string |
| 23:36.32 | NightHawkTheSane | trh: that happens even with just two parties, too, and the winner-take-all system means basically most of the votes in the system are worthless |
| 23:36.47 | trh | Ominous: in a normal string not, only in format/printf stuff |
| 23:37.26 | trh | NightHawkTheSane: but it also reduces alot of problems |
| 23:38.02 | trh | NightHawkTheSane: in germany there are like 2 instances to make laws - first the germany-wide "congress", and then a congress formed by all the countries in germany |
| 23:38.09 | trh | NightHawkTheSane: and they are elected 2 years apart |
| 23:38.34 | NightHawkTheSane | trh: well, our electoral system isn |
| 23:38.39 | NightHawkTheSane | isn't precisely prefect either :P |
| 23:38.45 | trh | NightHawkTheSane: so usually the people are unhappy after 2years of the germany-wide-goverment, and vote for the other one in their country-vote |
| 23:39.10 | trh | NightHawkTheSane: and because of party-politics they block every new law from the germany-wide-congress |
| 23:39.17 | NightHawkTheSane | Yeah, that kind of happens here with mid-term elections. |
| 23:39.19 | trh | NightHawkTheSane: and for 2 years basically nothing happens |
| 23:39.27 | Gnarfoz | bleh |
| 23:39.27 | Garoun | gah, gonna have to pass updating aceaddons tonight. have like 5000 latency trying to load it :( |
| 23:39.32 | Gnarfoz | politics suck |
| 23:39.41 | trh | NightHawkTheSane: ya.. it's somehow like that.. but the country-congress has more rights i think |
| 23:40.01 | trh | damn.. it's very complicated to explain such stuff in a different language =) |
| 23:40.01 | Gnarfoz | trh: un-translate that one? ^^ |
| 23:40.13 | trh | Gnarfoz: bundestag versus bundesrat :) |
| 23:40.14 | NightHawkTheSane | trh: lol, I sort of get what your saying. :) |
| 23:40.25 | *** part/#wowace Herio (n=Kevin@ekm-s-216-160.resnet.CSUChico.EDU) |
| 23:40.39 | trh | Gnarfoz: bundestag wird gewählt, leute unzufrieden nach 2 jahren, wählen andere in den bundesrat, bundesrat blockiert alle gesetze des bundestag, stillstand |
| 23:40.44 | trh | Gnarfoz: ganz kurz :) |
| 23:40.58 | Gnarfoz | ich weiss :> |
| 23:41.08 | trh | Gnarfoz: ist soooviel einfacher in deutsch ;) |
| 23:41.22 | Gnarfoz | tho unreadable for the other guys :\ |
| 23:41.33 | NightHawkTheSane | nah, i can read about half of that, enough to get the gist. :D |
| 23:41.37 | trh | hehe |
| 23:41.45 | trh | i guess everyone here can read it |
| 23:41.48 | trh | ... just not understand :) |
| 23:41.49 | Gnarfoz | politics is one of those few topics that's so hard to communicate in a foreign language |
| 23:42.17 | NightHawkTheSane | Well, I took a few years of german in high school and college, so. I've forgotten a lot of it though, and cant really speak it anymore. :) |
| 23:42.21 | *** join/#wowace SlackerJer (i=SlackerJ@slacker.ucdavis.edu) |
| 23:42.28 | trh | oh cool.. amazon sent my book "Inside Delta Force: The Story" :) |
| 23:42.52 | trh | for expensive 4,95 euro ;) |
| 23:42.53 | trh | hehe |
| 23:43.32 | trh | NightHawkTheSane: where did you go to college? |
| 23:45.10 | deltron | the update servers seem to be quite slow atm |
| 23:45.21 | NightHawkTheSane | ah, Rochester Institute of Technology, in new york. |
| 23:45.28 | trh | NightHawkTheSane: i mean in germany :) |
| 23:45.36 | trh | NightHawkTheSane: ah.. got it |
| 23:45.40 | trh | NightHawkTheSane: learned it there :) |
| 23:45.41 | NightHawkTheSane | lol ah. |
| 23:45.44 | NightHawkTheSane | yes :) |
| 23:45.54 | NightHawkTheSane | sorry, guess that was unclear |
| 23:46.18 | trh | NightHawkTheSane: no, it was clear.. i just overread the "in" ;) |
| 23:46.30 | NightHawkTheSane | hehe |
| 23:46.32 | chutwig | damn germans |
| 23:46.59 | chutwig | mit ihrer schrecklichen sprache |
| 23:47.08 | trh | chutwig: ack.. german sucks :) |
| 23:47.51 | chutwig | englisch ist natürlich ungeheurisch leichter |
| 23:47.51 | deltron | scheisse |
| 23:48.26 | chutwig | oh boy oh boy |
| 23:48.30 | chutwig | a battery firmware update |
| 23:48.32 | trh | chutwig: it is... but i still suck writing in it ;) |
| 23:48.57 | deltron | wha |
| 23:49.06 | chutwig | your spelling's okay |
| 23:49.17 | trh | chutwig: my grammar is horrible |
| 23:49.27 | trh | chutwig: always got D's in english in school |
| 23:49.33 | trh | at school |
| 23:49.34 | chutwig | better than a lot of the halfwit americans i work with who can't spell shit |
| 23:50.05 | chutwig | time to restart and see if this update makes my battery explode |
| 23:51.13 | trh | Gnarfoz: is it also hot in your part of germany? =) |
| 23:54.00 | Gnarfoz | trh: Hannover :) - it was quite warm today, but I wouldn't call it "hot" yet |
| 23:54.02 | *** join/#wowace chutwig (n=edmundrh@pool-151-204-65-224.delv.east.verizon.net) |
| 23:54.18 | chutwig | the battery did not explode, much to my dismay |
| 23:54.19 | trh | Gnarfoz: still 20°C outside (ulm).. over day close to 30 |
| 23:54.26 | deltron | what laptop? |
| 23:54.34 | Gnarfoz | still 20 degrees o_O |
| 23:54.41 | trh | chutwig: congrats... it's not a sony.. i guess ;) |
| 23:54.44 | chutwig | my macbook |
| 23:54.53 | deltron | ah macbooks esplode |
| 23:55.00 | chutwig | with its flickery screen and stained top case |
| 23:55.03 | chutwig | but i wuv it anyway |
| 23:55.04 | trh | Gnarfoz: unbelievable hot for april |
| 23:55.24 | Gnarfoz | heh, my guildmate is from the region, he's been complaining all evening |
| 23:55.26 | trh | Gnarfoz: i remember a few years ago snow in april |
| 23:55.26 | chutwig | it's only going to get warmer, so might as well get used to it |
| 23:55.37 | Gnarfoz | trh: indeed. |
| 23:55.45 | deltron | it's 20C right now |
| 23:55.54 | trh | chutwig: already got a table-ventilator :) |
| 23:56.01 | chutwig | a what |
| 23:56.01 | Gnarfoz | april can mean both hot enough to sweat for no reason and cold enough for snow nowadays |
| 23:56.07 | deltron | http://www.wunderground.com/weatherstation/WXDailyHistory.asp?ID=KMOFENTO2 |
| 23:56.10 | deltron | <3 wunderground |
| 23:56.17 | trh | deltron: ya.. but here it is 02am ;) |
| 23:56.33 | chutwig | wish i had people to speak german to |
| 23:56.41 | chutwig | the day i graduated it began a steady decline |
| 23:56.49 | Gnarfoz | I wish I had more people to speak english to :\ |
| 23:57.01 | chutwig | at least you can practice it in text |
| 23:57.21 | *** part/#wowace Eternally777 (n=eternall@pool-72-95-4-170.hrbgpa.east.verizon.net) |
| 23:57.30 | chutwig | the only german irc channel i ever found was the ubuntu-de help channel |
| 23:57.34 | trh | in my opinion it helps alot to watch movies and series in the language |
| 23:57.52 | chutwig | yes, all those famous german TV shows that nobody outside central europe's ever heard of |
| 23:58.07 | trh | unfortunatley there are practically none good in german.. you can watch those synchronized us-movies though ;) |
| 23:58.14 | Gnarfoz | heh |
| 23:58.15 | chutwig | let's see |
| 23:58.26 | chutwig | there's lola rennt, which is actually fairly recognizable over ehre |
| 23:58.35 | Gnarfoz | I watch all my sci-fi series (which is all I watch anyway) in their original language, which is english |
| 23:58.47 | chutwig | um, good bye lenin |
| 23:58.58 | chutwig | and der untergang |
| 23:59.00 | chutwig | that was a cheery movie |
| 23:59.04 | Gnarfoz | read books in english, IRC in english... that's about it ^^ |
| 23:59.18 | Gnarfoz | Der Untergang was ok-ish :\ |
| 23:59.27 | chutwig | it was pretty depressing |
| 23:59.30 | trh | chutwig: you may like "23 - Nichts ist so wie es scheint" |
| 23:59.44 | chutwig | trh: i'll see if i can get it from netflix |
| 23:59.47 | Gnarfoz | which is not to be confused with the recent "23" with Jim Carrey |
| 23:59.49 | Chompers | that u-boat film, german one |
| 23:59.53 | chutwig | das boot? |
| 23:59.54 | Chompers | that was cool |
| 23:59.57 | Chompers | thats the one |
| 23:59.57 | Gnarfoz | das boot :> |
