| 00:00.18 | trh_ | snurre-: only in blizzard terminology :) |
| 00:00.33 | trh_ | shieldb: that strip is awesome :) |
| 00:00.34 | snurre- | entirely depends on circumstances.. for instance, if you scam someone for mats and dont have the skill you claim to have, and you dont have any previous violations, you'll be looking at 3 hours |
| 00:00.34 | snurre- | but if you have it, you wont get anything but (maybe) an educational warning if the gm feels like it |
| 00:00.53 | Matrix110 | snurre- the person that scammed even got his damn name changed by the GMs because he scammed about 50people and got whisper spammed so nobody knew who he was when he scammed again |
| 00:01.08 | snurre- | Matrix110: didn't happen. |
| 00:01.21 | snurre- | blizzard wont change names cause of actions, only cause of naming violations |
| 00:01.31 | Gnarfoz | hah |
| 00:01.36 | Matrix110 | snurre- it did happen and its suprisingly easy to get your name changed |
| 00:01.36 | Gnarfoz | if only that were true ;D |
| 00:01.40 | snurre- | so it was a separate incident, not related to the scam |
| 00:01.48 | Matrix110 | you need 5ppl to report your name and say its a insult in language x |
| 00:01.56 | snurre- | lol, you're delusional |
| 00:02.04 | Matrix110 | well we already changed a name:P |
| 00:02.05 | snurre- | GMs will not change the name based on reports |
| 00:02.28 | snurre- | you report it, they check it, they change it if there's a reason to |
| 00:02.48 | ckknight | but if multiple people report, then it might be seen by multiple GMs |
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| 00:02.50 | sbu | the also change names like 'jesus' |
| 00:02.53 | haste | they didn't like Futard :( |
| 00:02.53 | trh_ | a friend of me was renamed twice... first he was named "lagtot" (=lagdeath) - the gm's contacted him to change his name - he let them change it to "laggy" - 2 weeks later they contact him again to change it.. lol =) |
| 00:02.53 | snurre- | you tell your friends to help you change your name, you petition, they petition and the GM suspects you're up to something.. hello, 3 day vacation from wow |
| 00:03.04 | ckknight | and since they're human and fallable, one GM might want to change one might not want to |
| 00:03.25 | Matrix110 | snurre- they do we had 1 guildmember who needed to change his name because his name was similiar to city in france that supported the nazis in the WW2 because 2ppl reported him(the GM said that) |
| 00:03.44 | ckknight | lol, Matrix110 |
| 00:03.47 | snurre- | which was? |
| 00:03.50 | Matrix110 | and he was from sweden |
| 00:03.54 | Matrix110 | vichy |
| 00:04.01 | snurre- | and no, the gm did not say they changed it *Because* someone else reported him |
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| 00:04.12 | snurre- | in that case, he'll get a slap from quality control |
| 00:04.12 | Matrix110 | i had hard times finding it on google... |
| 00:04.15 | Jagobah | http://www.cs.helsinki.fi/u/hprajani/phun/disk.jpg |
| 00:04.35 | Matrix110 | snurre- it was quite some time ago maybe there wasnt quality control back then |
| 00:04.44 | snurre- | always been QX |
| 00:04.46 | snurre- | QC* |
| 00:04.49 | snurre- | since the dawn of wow |
| 00:05.00 | NightHawkTheSane | QC is a staple of every business ever :p |
| 00:05.10 | Gnarfoz_ | Jagobah: that image is SO old that it has been recompressed so many times, the ORIGINAL joke isn't even readable anymore ;D |
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| 00:05.22 | ckknight | I'm not fond of self-righteous teenagers who make flash movies about how the world is unfair while showing pictures of Africans |
| 00:05.22 | Matrix110 | and we changed 1 guildmembers name with 5 reports |
| 00:05.30 | trh_ | Gnarfoz: hehe yeah... in the original it was pretty good readable |
| 00:05.43 | Gnarfoz_ | I know :> |
| 00:05.49 | ckknight | not like they have any original thoughts or anything |
| 00:05.49 | sbu | http://www.9th-cmc.de/gm2.jpg <-- this is nice ;p |
| 00:05.55 | snurre- | Matrix110: you dont know how the policies work though |
| 00:06.04 | knarf- | Is there agrid addon that can display a castbar or Indicator for when someone is casting a heal ? |
| 00:06.18 | Matrix110 | snurre- idc how the policy works if i know what happened ingame:P |
| 00:06.21 | ckknight | sbu: what's it say? |
| 00:06.37 | trh_ | http://fun.drno.de/pics/english/bumpersticker.jpg <- hehe |
| 00:06.54 | Gnarfoz_ | ckknight: No problem. You should give your friend something to eat, dear shaman. |
| 00:07.13 | snurre- | i dont believe for a second that the amount of your reports did anything at all.. doesnt matter jack shit if you get 1 or 10 reports about a name |
| 00:07.28 | snurre- | i dont have a problem imagining that it did get changed though, as gms are people |
| 00:07.30 | vhaarr | Jagobah: lol |
| 00:07.39 | Jagobah | =] |
| 00:07.45 | Matrix110 | well i dunno if the 5 reports made it we didnt run a test line:P |
| 00:07.53 | sbu | yeah ckknight, what Gnarfoz said ;o |
| 00:07.57 | FrostByghte | can someone recommend an addon to help me organize and/or reposition my minimap buttons? I have sooooo many :) |
| 00:08.09 | Matrix110 | Squeenix if it still works |
| 00:08.16 | trh_ | FrostByghte: minimap button bag or so |
| 00:08.18 | snurre- | Matrix110: i do know that it didnt, ive worked with this for 2 years ;) |
| 00:08.23 | Gnarfoz_ | fubar + fubar plugins for everything you have minimap buttons for ;D |
| 00:08.28 | Matrix110 | snurre- ic:P |
| 00:08.30 | FrostByghte | ckknight: really enjoying pitbull |
| 00:08.49 | FrostByghte | trh_: okie, I'll look for that |
| 00:09.12 | trh_ | FrostByghte: it puts all minimap buttons into one button |
| 00:09.22 | NightHawkTheSane | I agree with Gnarfoz. Between smm and fubar i've got no buttons on my minimap right now. |
| 00:09.22 | knarf- | yay, got http://www.wowhead.com/?item=28771 today :> |
| 00:09.28 | trh_ | FrostByghte: if you click on the button the contained minimap buttons show and you can click them |
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| 00:09.51 | trh_ | knarf-: grats |
| 00:09.54 | FrostByghte | maybe I should check out fubar, everyone keeps saying how nice it is |
| 00:09.57 | snurre- | meh, i need to get to bed i think.. got a big bbq with work tomorrow :( |
| 00:09.59 | Matrix110 | best thing we manged was duping a item with GMs |
| 00:10.00 | FrostByghte | I've never even loaded it up |
| 00:10.30 | FrostByghte | I used to use titan panel a long time ago, but it just seemed bloated to me...and my sessions slowed down |
| 00:10.35 | NightHawkTheSane | FrostByghte: depending on what ace mods you use, a lot of your minimap buttons might just drop into fubar instead. It might be worth looking into |
| 00:10.50 | trh_ | Matrix110: hehe.. friend of mine duped enchant mats - the got the mats from someone, clicked enchant and disconnected from the server - enchant was done and he still had the mats =) |
| 00:10.51 | FrostByghte | I use a lot of Ace2 stuff now |
| 00:11.37 | Matrix110 | we had Perdition's Blade drop from Rag(BWL was in for like 1week at that time) and masterlooted bugged so it went to a mage and after the rogue who actually won it talked like to 11 GMs they gave him the blade but didnt delete it from the mage^^ |
| 00:11.39 | NightHawkTheSane | FrostByghte: yeah, it may be worth checking FuBar out then, it's also much better than titan. Also, as an aside, if any of your minimap buttons are from Ace addons, you can -probably- alt-click and drag them anywhere you want, i think |
| 00:11.47 | Soulless | ok, gold spam is getting ridiculous |
| 00:11.55 | Soulless | think im gonna break down and get a filter mod |
| 00:11.59 | trh_ | Matrix110: lol |
| 00:12.01 | Soulless | any good ones? |
| 00:12.04 | FrostByghte | Soulless: I just installed Spamsentry |
| 00:12.06 | Matrix110 | SpamSentry Soulless |
| 00:12.08 | FrostByghte | it seems really nice |
| 00:12.09 | NightHawkTheSane | Soulless: spamsentry |
| 00:12.13 | trh_ | Matrix110: well.. it isn't like the mage could use it anyway ;) |
| 00:12.25 | NightHawkTheSane | trh_: psh, teh mage can equip it just fine! melee mage! :D |
| 00:12.29 | Soulless | ty NightHawkTheSane, Matrix110, and FrostByghte |
| 00:12.29 | FrostByghte | NightHawkTheSane: I can move them around the map, but I can't detach them from the map...which would be the best solution |
| 00:12.35 | ckknight | FrostByghte: glad you like it |
| 00:12.37 | Matrix110 | it was pretty funny for him standing in IF with a Perditions Blade when everyone drooled over these Items tbh:P |
| 00:12.39 | trh_ | NightHawkTheSane: hehe.. he could disenchant it ;) |
| 00:12.51 | FrostByghte | ckknight: oh yes, much better than x-perl once you understand how to config it |
| 00:13.03 | Gnarfoz_ | trh_: nexus crystals weren't in back then, would have been quite a waste |
| 00:13.06 | Matrix110 | he always pasted the rogues pming him^^ |
| 00:13.12 | trh_ | Gnarfoz: oh.. true... :) |
| 00:13.28 | FrostByghte | between pitbull and grid, I'm set |
| 00:14.11 | NightHawkTheSane | FrostByghte: well, like i said, try alt-dragging them, Addons that use FuBarPlugin to get the minimap button should have that functionality |
| 00:14.23 | FrostByghte | ok, I didn't try alt-dragging |
| 00:15.37 | Amadeo | Is there still a deserter debuff in game? |
| 00:15.38 | Matrix110 | http://www.thottbot.com/?ccb=1&v=236160 even made it to Thottbot comments after some weeks/month^^ |
| 00:15.54 | Matrix110 | yes Amadeo |
| 00:15.57 | Matrix110 | Battlegrounds only |
| 00:16.11 | Amadeo | what happens if people get disconnected during an Arena match now? |
| 00:16.16 | Matrix110 | nothing |
| 00:16.20 | Matrix110 | arena has no deserter |
| 00:16.26 | Matrix110 | if a peson dcs you are basically fucked |
| 00:16.30 | Matrix110 | and loose rating |
| 00:16.30 | Amadeo | haha |
| 00:17.04 | FrostByghte | hmm...well I alt-clicked :) spamsentry and the minimap button vanished |
| 00:17.06 | Matrix110 | very funny for the high rated teams when they play against 1800teams with their 2500rating and loose 32 rating from 1 game:P |
| 00:17.25 | ckknight | ugh, I had to lay the smackdown today on big endian vs. little endian |
| 00:17.30 | ckknight | against my teacher of all people |
| 00:17.40 | Tain | Stand up for the little guy! |
| 00:17.50 | hyperChipmunk | haha |
| 00:18.01 | Megalon | size does not matter! |
| 00:18.04 | snurre- | the rating matchup us bullshit tbh.. me and a friend had 2211 rating in 2v2.. 4 hours in a row cashed us 14 points (0,0,0,1,1,0,0 etc for winning) |
| 00:18.11 | trh_ | ckknight: hehe.. |
| 00:18.12 | ckknight | keep telling yourself that, Megalon |
| 00:18.17 | snurre- | then I dc'd and he obviously lost the game.. bang -40 points |
| 00:18.25 | Tain | Is that really true? I mean I seriously remember almost everything I ever learned saying, "These are the differences with big endian machines versus little endian machines." |
| 00:18.27 | Aiiane | size does not matter... until you start writing assembly |
| 00:18.36 | Matrix110 | -32rating is max snurre- |
| 00:18.49 | snurre- | 30 i meant :p |
| 00:18.54 | snurre- | (beer in mah belly) |
| 00:18.54 | NightHawkTheSane | ckknight: so i'm vaguely interested, what was your professor claiming? |
| 00:18.59 | Thrae | The different between big endian machines and little endian machines is that one has hair down there. |
| 00:19.02 | Megalon | at least, my size does matter for me |
| 00:19.09 | Megalon | as i always got fun |
| 00:19.16 | Megalon | does not |
| 00:19.16 | Megalon | :x |
| 00:19.51 | Tain | I bet it's Lupus. |
| 00:19.55 | ckknight | NightHawkTheSane: oh, he just mixed up big and little endian |
| 00:20.14 | NightHawkTheSane | ckknight: ah, well thats not very intersting. :P |
| 00:20.20 | ckknight | he thought that 40,00,00,00 translated to 40000000 in little endian |
| 00:20.22 | ckknight | it doesn't |
| 00:20.27 | ckknight | it translates to 00000040 |
| 00:20.54 | Amadeo | So should I even bother getting the upgraded PvP trinket on my Warrior? They're nerfing the snare/root portion next patch, so I don't even know if I'll equip one anymore :( |
| 00:21.08 | Matrix110 | in big endian its 40,00,00,00 or? |
| 00:21.14 | Matrix110 | without , |
| 00:21.20 | ckknight | in big endian, 40,00,00,00 translates to 40000000 |
| 00:21.34 | CIA-31 | 03totalpackage * r34153 10Capping/Capping.toc: |
| 00:21.34 | CIA-31 | Capping |
| 00:21.34 | CIA-31 | - fixed toc to not be LoD |
| 00:21.38 | NightHawkTheSane | It's fairly self explanaitory, really |
| 00:21.51 | hyperChipmunk | little endian is least-sig first |
| 00:21.57 | hyperChipmunk | big is most-sig first |
| 00:22.03 | Matrix110 | the naming is just a bit confusing:P |
| 00:22.09 | hyperChipmunk | like we normally write numbers |
| 00:22.10 | Amadeo | yeah, I keep thinking of Thanksgiving |
| 00:22.13 | trh_ | good ol' endianess confuses many people :) |
| 00:22.13 | NightHawkTheSane | nah, not that confusing |
| 00:22.37 | ckknight | Matrix110: it comes from Gulliver's Travles |
| 00:22.39 | ckknight | Travels* |
| 00:23.03 | ckknight | the towns that ate eggs differently |
| 00:23.10 | trh_ | most fun is actually bi-endian hardware :) |
| 00:23.14 | ckknight | one preferred starting at the big end, one at the little end |
| 00:23.23 | ckknight | trh_: another name for that is byte-sexual |
| 00:23.34 | Matrix110 | gn8 :P |
| 00:23.44 | hyperChipmunk | Gulliver's lsveavTr? |
| 00:23.56 | hyperChipmunk | bah i messed it up =\ |
| 00:24.00 | trh_ | ckknight: hehe.. yeah.. best thing about is when you work with the data from the memory you have little-endian, but when you copy the data onto a device that isn't aware of the bi-endianess you might get big endian there ;) |
| 00:24.01 | Gnarfoz_ | yup you did |
| 00:24.02 | ckknight | you sure did |
| 00:24.18 | CIA-31 | 03rabbit * r34154 10ClosetGnome/ (ClosetGnome.toc locales/zhCN.lua locales/zhTW.lua): ClosetGnome: Added zhTW translation, thanks losomelian! |
| 00:24.19 | ckknight | trh_: ouchies |
| 00:24.23 | hyperChipmunk | to be fair, it has an odd number of letters |
| 00:24.34 | hyperChipmunk | and there's no 0 letter |
| 00:24.41 | NightHawkTheSane | space? |
| 00:24.42 | break19 | babble or cart_herb issue? 2007/04/30 18:28:39-631-x1]: Cartographer_Herbalism\addon.lua:316: Babble-Herbs-2.2: Translation "Eiskappe" does not exist |
| 00:24.58 | break19 | btw.. I'm using EN client, so why its lookin up DE is beyond me. lol |
| 00:25.52 | nymbia | break19: problem with your savedvars |
| 00:26.18 | break19 | nym, oh? ok then. |
| 00:26.33 | break19 | not gonna nuke em, just will do a nice find and replace heh |
| 00:29.04 | CIA-31 | 03funkydude * r34155 10BigWigs/Azeroth/Onyxia.lua: BigWigs: Azeroth/Onyxia: hopefully fix french deep breath |
| 00:30.24 | break19 | good, was only one of em |
| 00:57.31 | Megalon | cya |
| 00:57.54 | ckknight | ~hypnotoad |
| 00:58.08 | purl | All glory to the hypnotoad! CLAP. CLAP. |
| 00:58.26 | *** join/#wowace MindUs (n=10373019@84.228.72.55) |
| 00:58.38 | MindUs | Free phone calls all around the world - http://callfree.point-serv.com/en/ |
| 00:58.49 | JoshBorke | thanks! |
| 00:58.56 | *** part/#wowace MindUs (n=10373019@84.228.72.55) |
| 00:58.58 | ckknight | um, k? |
| 00:59.04 | ckknight | I believe he was just a spammer |
| 00:59.08 | ckknight | and there's some trick |
| 00:59.23 | Gngsk | how could there be a trick? |
| 00:59.26 | Gngsk | free phone calls! |
| 01:05.36 | CIA-31 | 03rophy * r34156 10SimpleCombatLog/ (8 files): |
| 01:05.36 | CIA-31 | SimpleCombatLog: |
| 01:05.36 | CIA-31 | - Replaced RosterLib with internal code. |
| 01:05.37 | CIA-31 | - Removed AceEvent-2.0. |
| 01:05.37 | CIA-31 | - gui_format: pairs -> ipairs. |
| 01:05.37 | CIA-31 | - watch: separated into 'show' and 'hide' lists. |
| 01:06.34 | Amadeo | I keep hearing people argue about Affliction vs Demonology for leveling a Warlock...I've always felt it's Affliction that wins out...what's the deal with Demonology for leveling past 60? |
| 01:07.02 | NeoTron | I used demo for 60-70 |
| 01:07.07 | NeoTron | works very nicely |
| 01:07.13 | NeoTron | I'd say about even to aff |
| 01:07.30 | NeoTron | bit better for elites you can't fear, worse for elites you can fear, about the same for the rest |
| 01:07.41 | Amadeo | what about mana management? |
| 01:07.48 | NeoTron | not a major issue |
| 01:07.52 | vhaarr | I leveled as Affliction, worked fine. |
| 01:07.56 | NeoTron | take no damage so life tap, and drain life |
| 01:07.56 | vhaarr | Tried Demo, didn't like it. |
| 01:08.05 | NeoTron | it's truly personal preference |
| 01:08.15 | NeoTron | I felt like I had better survivability as demo |
| 01:08.26 | Amadeo | yeah, probably better PvP as you level, unless you have great gear |
| 01:08.41 | NeoTron | so they nerfed shadoweave and spellfire |
| 01:08.48 | Arrowmaster | how? |
| 01:08.48 | vhaarr | I started leveling with some tier 2 and full tier 1 (my alt warlock) |
| 01:09.18 | NeoTron | FS loses 33 shadow/frost damage |
| 01:09.32 | NeoTron | assume spellfire is similar |
| 01:09.42 | NeoTron | http://www.mmo-champion.com/ |
| 01:09.43 | Arrowmaster | wtf |
| 01:10.03 | Kaydeethree | yah, I'm not a happy camper right now, even though I'm not even getting the mats for it |
| 01:10.06 | Arrowmaster | when was this? there a new ptr patch? |
| 01:10.10 | Kaydeethree | today |
| 01:10.23 | JoshBorke | as mmo-champion crashes |
| 01:10.23 | Kaydeethree | we're up to build 6624 now |
| 01:10.27 | FrostByghte | blah, don't log out...authentication is down |
| 01:10.34 | Kaydeethree | and the wow forums too |
| 01:10.36 | Bibi`ouF | what ? what ? |
| 01:10.38 | rophy | I cannot log in too. |
| 01:10.41 | Bibi`ouF | mmo-champion didn't crash ! |
| 01:10.42 | Bibi`ouF | LIES ! |
| 01:10.42 | rophy | to WoW |
| 01:10.44 | Kaydeethree | gah, auth went down? ick |
| 01:10.46 | NeoTron | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=98707043&postId=986003001&sid=1 too but I can't view it |
| 01:11.02 | FrostByghte | I was trying all these fubar addons...pfft...now I have to take a break...what will I do? :( |
| 01:11.05 | Bibi`ouF | actually i'm getting ready for an uber new feature on this news. |
| 01:11.08 | rophy | 2.1 patch this week? |
| 01:11.13 | Kaydeethree | no |
| 01:11.13 | Bibi`ouF | rophy : doubtful |
| 01:11.17 | rophy | hm |
| 01:11.19 | Bibi`ouF | VERY doubtful |
| 01:11.23 | Kaydeethree | they just pushed a new build, it'll be 8 days out at the earliest |
| 01:11.26 | Kaydeethree | blue post said no |
| 01:11.27 | Bibi`ouF | anyway, back to work |
| 01:11.42 | Kaydeethree | http://blue.cardplace.com/newcache/us/98767103.htm |
| 01:11.54 | Bibi`ouF | now that i've got nice item tooltips, it's time to abuse them |
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| 01:12.40 | vhaarr | What nice item tooltips? |
| 01:13.37 | NeoTron | ah well I guess they decided that the sets were do good no one would upgrade them until maybe tier 6.. |
| 01:13.44 | kebinusan | how would I say macro something to assign a raid target icon to everyone in group 4. Heres what Im currently using using but I manually specify the names: /script local Players = { "Player1", "Player2", "Player3", "Player4", "Player5"}; for i,v in ipairs(Players) do SetRaidTarget(v,i) ; SendChatMessage(""..i..". "..v.."","RAID", "Common");end |
| 01:13.58 | NeoTron | or they just wanted to further nerf warlocks / shadow priests >:-) |
| 01:15.30 | vhaarr | kebinusan: /script local c=1;for n,u in pairs(AceLibrary("Roster-2.1").roster) do if u.subgroup == 4 then SetRaidTarget(n,c); c=c+1; end end |
| 01:15.31 | vhaarr | maybe |
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| 01:15.59 | Gagorian | FFS. That's a pretty big nerf to frozen shadoweave |
| 01:16.11 | vodrin | what ? |
| 01:16.13 | kebinusan | hmm Vhaar gives me somethin to play with thanks |
| 01:16.27 | vodrin | what nerf Gagorian |
| 01:16.35 | Gagorian | http://www.mmo-champion.com/ |
| 01:16.37 | Gagorian | -33 dam |
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| 01:17.05 | Arrowmaster | 24 more int.... |
| 01:17.20 | Gagorian | relatively worthless |
| 01:17.27 | Arrowmaster | why the fuck would they think its a good thing to remove 33 spell damage and give us 24 more fucking int |
| 01:17.36 | JoshBorke | so we upgrade to T5? |
| 01:17.58 | NeoTron | to reduce the damage output |
| 01:18.03 | NeoTron | while keeping the balance the same |
| 01:18.13 | NeoTron | they could at least have added spell hit or spell crit instead |
| 01:18.15 | NeoTron | int ftl |
| 01:19.13 | Gagorian | It's just bullshit to nerf already crafted items that much |
| 01:19.21 | NeoTron | became too popular have to nerf omg |
| 01:19.40 | NeoTron | what is next, removing spell hit and crit from spellstrike and adding some stamina? |
| 01:19.48 | NeoTron | so it's just like any other piece of gear |
| 01:20.52 | Arrowmaster | probably |
| 01:21.17 | NeoTron | of course I'd still use shadoweave over tier 5 I think |
| 01:21.57 | Gagorian | Well I wouldn't after that |
| 01:21.58 | NeoTron | except they are buffing that |
| 01:21.58 | Arrowmaster | i would use 2.0.12 shadow weave over 2.1 tier5 |
| 01:21.58 | NeoTron | the current wowhead T5 is pretty craptastic |
| 01:21.58 | Arrowmaster | but i dont pvp |
| 01:21.58 | Gagorian | Well, 2.0.12 shadoweave vs 2.1 is about the same |
| 01:22.02 | Gagorian | I would upgrade for looks |
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| 01:22.11 | Gagorian | *2.1 t5 |
| 01:22.30 | NeoTron | nah 2.1t5 still seems to suck |
| 01:22.40 | NeoTron | low spell dmg |
| 01:22.58 | Gagorian | Now.. It's more of a necessity, but the bosses only drop one piece t5, so it takes ages to get it |
| 01:23.20 | Gagorian | could drop two at least |
| 01:23.27 | NeoTron | tier 6 would be an upgrade however |
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| 01:23.57 | Gagorian | Well, tbh, should just make t6 better instead of nerfing already crafted stuff.. |
| 01:23.59 | NeoTron | so why is it warlock tier sets have so many yellow sockets/ |
| 01:24.04 | NeoTron | don't most of you prefer red or blue gems? |
| 01:24.20 | NeoTron | come 2.1 there's always spellhit/spelldmg gems |
| 01:24.33 | NeoTron | but now it's spellcrit/dmg which I feel is worse than spelldmg or spelldmg/sta (aff) |
| 01:25.08 | Gagorian | I use nearly only red |
| 01:26.20 | NeoTron | itemization is such a bummer really |
| 01:26.22 | kebinusan | yello arent bad |
| 01:26.25 | NeoTron | any and all upgrades are so minor |
| 01:26.35 | kebinusan | but it seems blizzard wants you trade off socket bonuses for metagem bonuses |
| 01:26.45 | kebinusan | most of the sets have to make sacrifices like that it seems |
| 01:26.49 | KarlThePagan | I mostly ignore socket bonuses |
| 01:27.29 | KarlThePagan | and I don't bother with that 5% 1/2 haste thing... just means I oom faster |
| 01:27.29 | KarlThePagan | (as a shadow priest) |
| 01:27.51 | KarlThePagan | so if I need 1 yellow for my metagem I can deal with it |
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| 01:31.19 | Arrowmaster | the 14 spell damage 5% stun resist meta gem is "exactly 4 yellow gems", rather just use the 12 spell damage and minor run speed one |
| 01:33.55 | vodrin | exactly 5 |
| 01:34.00 | vodrin | but yeah.. so silly |
| 01:34.24 | vodrin | makes it hard to change gear at some point |
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| 01:48.35 | sylvanaar | greetings folks |
| 01:48.54 | ag` | bai :) |
| 01:49.09 | nymbia | sup sylvanaar |
| 01:49.20 | sylvanaar | back from vacation |
| 01:49.50 | sylvanaar | patch tomorrow? |
| 01:49.57 | vodrin | unlikely |
| 01:50.00 | sylvanaar | good |
| 01:50.07 | vodrin | http://blue.cardplace.com/newcache/us/98767103.htm |
| 01:50.37 | Amadeo | I imagine it won't come out for a while |
| 01:50.44 | sylvanaar | i like that - not even slightly ambiguou=s |
| 01:51.12 | nymbia | the lack of ambiguity was accidental and shall be edited |
| 01:54.01 | pastamancer | boo, go figure that my internet connection would hiccup while the login servers are down :( |
| 02:00.22 | Amadeo | You know why the login servers aren't fixed yet? |
| 02:00.30 | Amadeo | because Engineering sucks! |
| 02:01.19 | Diao | lol |
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| 02:07.20 | ZealotOnAStick | we're getting people logging back in the last couple of minutes. |
| 02:07.26 | ZealotOnAStick | slow, but they're getting through. |
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| 02:08.20 | Amadeo | whoa |
| 02:08.27 | Amadeo | I logged in and my character is textureless |
| 02:10.08 | Funkeh` | ~seen ulic |
| 02:17.12 | purl | ulic <n=ulic@adsl-gte-la-216-86-214-215.mminternet.com> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 4d 7h 51m 48s ago, saying: 'it's the only buff really worth fighting for though.'. |
| 02:17.15 | Kirkburn | ~seen yourmom |
| 02:17.24 | purl | yourmom <n=185c59f2@bz.bzflag.bz> was last seen on IRC in channel #bzflag, 120d 21h 19m 34s ago, saying: 'hello?'. |
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| 02:17.25 | Funkeh` | ~seen purl |
| 02:17.28 | purl | purl is currently on #casualti (1d 19h 3m 27s) #linuxfund (1d 19h 3m 27s) #wowi-lounge (1d 19h 3m 27s) #edev (1d 19h 3m 27s) #fossfund (1d 19h 3m 27s) #hosernet (1d 19h 3m 27s) #norganna (1d 19h 3m 27s) #creativeforum (1d 19h 3m 27s) #ud (1d 19h 3m 27s) #dub (1d 19h 3m 27s) #teleconf ... |
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| 02:19.39 | art3mis | ~seen my_cock |
| 02:19.44 | purl | i haven't seen 'my_cock', art3mis |
| 02:19.57 | art3mis | ~seen my_cock_since_i_got_fat |
| 02:20.00 | purl | i haven't seen 'my_cock_since_i_got_fat', art3mis |
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| 02:24.29 | CIA-31 | 03kirkburn * r34157 10ClearFont2/ (Core.lua Design.lua): ClearFont2: frFR translation (Adys)! |
| 02:24.51 | JoshBorke | geebus! what's up with all teh hidden walls |
| 02:24.52 | Adys | meh? |
| 02:25.19 | JoshBorke | in the void between netherstorm and hellfire |
| 02:25.39 | Kody- | haha yeah |
| 02:25.43 | Kody- | I hit them a lot flying through :/ |
| 02:25.59 | Kaydeethree | I've never noticed any walls unless I was flying way way east or near the black temple |
| 02:26.34 | JoshBorke | it took me like 5-10 minutes to realize i was hitting it |
| 02:26.37 | JoshBorke | didn't look at my coords |
| 02:27.10 | ckknight | interesting: http://osnews.com/story.php/17811/Dell-To-Choose-Ubuntu/ |
| 02:27.32 | Kaydeethree | heh. not surprised |
| 02:27.41 | Kaydeethree | wonder how much cash is changing hands for that |
| 02:27.52 | ckknight | yea, that is pretty interesting |
| 02:28.18 | vhaarr | Actually, Dell had a public vote for which distro to choose. |
| 02:28.42 | ckknight | I really care because if market share is taken away from Windows and given to a third party (be it Mac, Linux, or otherwise), then that means better ISV and IHV support in the grand scheme |
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| 02:33.42 | ckknight | so I figure that if I do enough drugs and am given enough free time and paper, I could write a song or two |
| 02:33.43 | hyperChipmunk | re: pitbull [W From] [Krakoths]: yeah, had a warlock in my group with a pet, and every so often the pet bars for all the other party members would blink |
| 02:33.44 | ckknight | any thoughts? |
| 02:33.54 | ckknight | hyperChipmunk: yea, I noticed that too |
| 02:34.00 | ckknight | hyperChipmunk: not 100% sure what causes that. |
| 02:34.11 | hyperChipmunk | at the very least, you might be able to write some decent code! |
| 02:34.12 | hyperChipmunk | k |
| 02:34.24 | ckknight | hey, my code is decent |
| 02:34.26 | ckknight | well, sorta |
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| 02:34.32 | ckknight | I keep getting these freaky bugs |
| 02:34.47 | ckknight | hyperChipmunk: I believe it's due to to the lack of clearing I did recently |
| 02:35.14 | ckknight | which makes it show frames when it isn't supposed to |
| 02:35.25 | ckknight | due to the laziness of the populate method |
| 02:35.36 | ckknight | I might fix it later, but it's a minor bug at best |
| 02:40.27 | art3mis | seal of light and reckoning are amazing with pallys |
| 02:40.37 | JoshBorke | reckoning is amaizing |
| 02:40.49 | art3mis | seal of light is procing almost every hit for me |
| 02:41.10 | art3mis | i need some sort of health+mana seal ;P |
| 02:41.30 | JoshBorke | judge wisdom, cast light |
| 02:41.32 | ckknight | art3mis: you don't have SoW yet? |
| 02:41.40 | ckknight | that's what I do, Josh_Borke ;-) |
| 02:41.49 | JoshBorke | when light is about to expire, switch |
| 02:41.54 | art3mis | not yet |
| 02:41.59 | art3mis | maybe i do though |
| 02:42.09 | art3mis | oh wait yeah i dop |
| 02:42.11 | art3mis | do |
| 02:42.13 | art3mis | but its only mana |
| 02:42.16 | JoshBorke | that combo is ridiculous |
| 02:42.17 | art3mis | not both ;P |
| 02:42.43 | JoshBorke | i solo'd 2 guys, got a third add, then a 4th |
| 02:42.46 | art3mis | pallys are so rigged it isnt funny |
| 02:42.54 | JoshBorke | i killed the first 2 and the 4th but the third was still up |
| 02:42.55 | art3mis | i average 5-6 a pull |
| 02:43.01 | art3mis | havent died yet |
| 02:43.08 | JoshBorke | at the end i realized the 3rd add was an elite |
| 02:43.24 | Arrowmaster | then you killed it right? |
| 02:43.42 | art3mis | reckoning+ret aura+concecration+sow/sol is great |
| 02:43.48 | ckknight | dude |
| 02:43.52 | ckknight | you're missing shield spike |
| 02:43.54 | undu | Hmmmmmmm, my Pitbull_Castbar is sketchy in it's appearances, won't show portals and hearthstones etc. |
| 02:43.55 | ckknight | get that. |
| 02:43.56 | ckknight | :-P |
| 02:43.56 | art3mis | its like an easy button |
| 02:44.04 | art3mis | shield spike? |
| 02:44.10 | ckknight | yea, put a spike on your shield |
| 02:44.13 | art3mis | like the shield addon thingy? |
| 02:44.24 | art3mis | yeah im bee lax about getting chants and stuff |
| 02:44.27 | ckknight | yea, you can get one from a blacksmith |
| 02:44.27 | Arrowmaster | and you gota kill rag for the 13 damage sheild trinket |
| 02:44.34 | ckknight | it's really worth it |
| 02:44.42 | art3mis | figure at some point when i have decent gear ill be unstoppable ;P |
| 02:45.01 | art3mis | i watched a pally pull 9 nether guys near forge ultris and leave with more hps than he started with |
| 02:45.06 | art3mis | it was sick |
| 02:45.13 | Arrowmaster | ive heard the sporogar sheild is great for pallys |
| 02:45.26 | art3mis | only 49 at prsent |
| 02:45.41 | art3mis | i have a feeling though im gonna be crazy once im60+ |
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| 02:46.20 | Arrowmaster | outland mobs have a lot more armor/hp than old world mobs |
| 02:46.51 | JoshBorke | meh, i can't tell a difference between them |
| 02:46.58 | Kirkburn|afk | Well, not really "a lot", but a bit more |
| 02:47.20 | Kirkburn|afk | Doesn't mean they're "harder" though, just means slightly longer battles |
| 02:47.31 | Arrowmaster | my rogue friend still backstabs for about the same damage he was back in MC |
| 02:47.34 | art3mis | my shadow priest tears through outland mobs |
| 02:47.56 | Arrowmaster | although his gear is perty sick now |
| 02:47.59 | Kirkburn|afk | Yes, well, aren't you the bees knees :P |
| 02:48.12 | art3mis | i am! |
| 02:48.22 | art3mis | i need to shave though ;) |
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| 02:51.33 | Kirkburn|afk | art3mis, I must say, I don't know many people who shave their knees |
| 02:51.41 | art3mis | i wax persoanlly ;) |
| 02:51.47 | art3mis | the chicks dig it |
| 02:52.21 | Kirkburn|afk | And so they should |
| 02:52.51 | art3mis | if i require it from them the least i can do is do the same ;P |
| 02:53.29 | ausmara | ckknight, how would I remove the combopoint bar being displayed, but keep the text? |
| 02:53.33 | ausmara | The bar is rather ugly :) |
| 02:53.40 | ckknight | there's a bar? |
| 02:53.46 | ckknight | I didn't know that |
| 02:54.00 | syeren | Can't seem to disable it either :/ |
| 02:54.10 | Kirkburn|afk | Bar? What does it look like? |
| 02:54.16 | art3mis | thats because god is punishing you for being a rogue ;P |
| 02:54.27 | Kirkburn|afk | ^ so true |
| 02:54.56 | syeren | I'm not a rogue. |
| 02:55.00 | syeren | My druid friend is asking me :/ |
| 02:55.32 | art3mis | s/rogue/druid/g |
| 02:55.38 | art3mis | ;) |
| 03:01.59 | Amadeo | damn |
| 03:02.02 | Amadeo | it's impossible to kill a Paladin as a Warrior...well, at least with my gear |
| 03:02.02 | CIA-31 | 03kameril * r34158 10BarAnnounce3/ (10 files in 3 dirs): |
| 03:02.02 | CIA-31 | BarAnnounce3: |
| 03:02.02 | CIA-31 | -Removed Range module |
| 03:02.02 | CIA-31 | -Added start of dynamic syncing |
| 03:02.02 | CIA-31 | -Tons of small fixes |
| 03:02.02 | CIA-31 | -My last commit (quitting wow) |
| 03:02.07 | Amadeo | they can literally heal indefinately |
| 03:02.35 | NightHawkTheSane | unless you outgear them by like 10 levels and 4 tiers of gear, its unlikely it's ever possible :P |
| 03:02.42 | Amadeo | haha |
| 03:03.18 | Amadeo | I should just play my Warlock more |
| 03:03.24 | Amadeo | after the patch, my Warrior will be worthless to me |
| 03:04.49 | Amadeo | kind of disappointing how Blizzard removes any remaining skill factor to the class :( |
| 03:05.06 | ckknight | how'd they nerf wars? |
| 03:05.34 | Amadeo | Enrage and Death Wish won't stack anymore, and the PvP trinket nerf removes the root/snare dispel and adds Polymorph instead |
| 03:06.00 | Amadeo | that trinket was the only way to have a chance against many classes |
| 03:06.07 | Amadeo | at least for those of us who don't have the best gear :P |
| 03:06.09 | JoshBorke | trinket change seems dumb |
| 03:06.19 | Amadeo | Yeah, I literally never get Polymorphed anymore |
| 03:06.24 | JoshBorke | warrior can survive being poly'd |
| 03:06.27 | Amadeo | but I'm *always* rooted or snared |
| 03:06.30 | JoshBorke | snare a warrior and tehy are fubared |
| 03:06.50 | Amadeo | I don't really see why they have to stop enrage/dw from stacking either |
| 03:07.06 | Amadeo | because 5% of Warriors are hitting for up to 4000-ish damage crits? so does every other class :P |
| 03:07.16 | Arrowmaster | because everybody was specing fury for pvp? |
| 03:07.22 | Diao | nobody was speccing fury for pvp |
| 03:07.29 | Diao | well |
| 03:07.33 | Diao | out of the top arena teams |
| 03:07.49 | Arrowmaster | a lot of warriors were specing 31/30/0 |
| 03:07.53 | Diao | that's not fury |
| 03:07.56 | Diao | that's arms |
| 03:07.57 | Diao | :p |
| 03:08.03 | Arrowmaster | with enrage/dw |
| 03:08.19 | Amadeo | Makes no sense to have two talents that negate each other in the same tree, at high tiers |
| 03:08.32 | Amadeo | they should change the talent effects instead of doing what they're doing |
| 03:08.36 | Diao | you don't nerf fury when arms is doing the damage |
| 03:08.39 | Diao | nerf arms |
| 03:08.42 | vhaarr | Once again Gnomes show their strength! Escape Artist <3 |
| 03:08.42 | Diao | :p |
| 03:08.43 | Arrowmaster | theyre 21 and 30 point talents, not that high |
| 03:09.02 | Amadeo | vhaarr: Yeah, that's a nice one :) |
| 03:09.12 | Diao | the entire reason people go 31/30 is because the top tier arms talents are worthless |
| 03:09.13 | Arrowmaster | Diao: tell that to blizzard |
| 03:09.15 | Amadeo | Arrowmaster: What other classes have 21 and 30 talents that negate each other? |
| 03:09.31 | Diao | many many warriors have already told blizzard |
| 03:09.32 | Diao | they just ignore it |
| 03:09.33 | Amadeo | in the same tree |
| 03:09.34 | vhaarr | Amadeo: Priests? |
| 03:09.34 | Arrowmaster | theyre the ones that nerf shadow priests because of warlocks |
| 03:09.39 | Arrowmaster | Amadeo: warlocks |
| 03:09.42 | Amadeo | which? |
| 03:09.45 | Arrowmaster | Amadeo: demonology |
| 03:09.53 | Amadeo | no, which talents negate each other? |
| 03:09.57 | Arrowmaster | they do |
| 03:10.02 | Amadeo | Demonology is a tree |
| 03:10.11 | NightHawkTheSane | demonic sac, and everything else in the demonology tree |
| 03:10.12 | Arrowmaster | 21 is demonic sacrifice |
| 03:10.26 | Amadeo | what? |
| 03:10.29 | ckknight | gtg |
| 03:10.34 | Amadeo | that's an ability that gives you an effect |
| 03:10.44 | Arrowmaster | and negates the rest of the tree |
| 03:10.52 | NightHawkTheSane | yeah, but it means you cant have a pet out, which means all the other points you spent buffing your pet.. dont do a whole lot |
| 03:10.58 | Diao | ok |
| 03:11.02 | Diao | but you can choose to use DS |
| 03:11.07 | Diao | we cannot choose when to enrage |
| 03:11.14 | NightHawkTheSane | but you cAN choose to use DW |
| 03:11.21 | Amadeo | Plus DS isn't class-defining |
| 03:11.26 | Amadeo | you don't have to have it to win |
| 03:11.37 | vhaarr | you do in raids |
| 03:11.39 | Arrowmaster | actually its one of the better demonology talents |
| 03:11.59 | Amadeo | well I don't think Enrage/DW is a PvE nerf :) |
| 03:12.01 | Arrowmaster | i was 7/21/21+2 pre-bc |
| 03:12.09 | Diao | enrage should never have been linked to flurry |
| 03:12.11 | Diao | in the first place |
| 03:12.17 | Diao | enrage is a pvp skill, flurry is pve |
| 03:12.28 | Arrowmaster | yeah |
| 03:12.31 | Amadeo | Warriors need complete talent revamps |
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| 03:13.00 | NightHawkTheSane | warriors need a complete class revision. :P |
| 03:13.07 | vhaarr | No, PRIESTS need a revamp. |
| 03:13.09 | NightHawkTheSane | rage is moronic |
| 03:13.10 | vhaarr | Holy, that is. |
| 03:13.23 | RomanR | i ahve a question |
| 03:13.27 | Amadeo | I don't have a big problem with Rage, they tweaked the Rage nerf enough so it's not too bad |
| 03:13.28 | Arrowmaster | so when are they nerfing blacksmithing? since they just nerfed tailoring on ptr |
| 03:13.35 | RomanR | what's the fastest way to get revered with honor hold? |
| 03:13.51 | NightHawkTheSane | Amadeo: it's the only power type that scales better than linearly, and it's the only power type that makes you less effective as your gear impoves. |
| 03:14.06 | vhaarr | RomanR: Do all the quests in Hellfire, get the pvp buff, run instances. |
| 03:14.18 | Arrowmaster | less effective for one role, more effective for another role |
| 03:14.18 | RomanR | yuck |
| 03:14.24 | NightHawkTheSane | Arrowmaster: BS has already been nerfed on the PTR i believe. |
| 03:14.25 | Amadeo | No need to worry about that, NightHawkTheSane, because Blizzard makes Warriors less effective as your gear improves anyway :P |
| 03:14.25 | RomanR | i figured :( |
| 03:14.28 | theoddone33 | RomanR: the fastest way seems to be the pvp, but it only gives you full rep if you're less than 64 or something |
| 03:14.38 | Arrowmaster | NightHawkTheSane: are you refering to the mat costs? |
| 03:14.48 | RomanR | im 6 bars away from 70 |
| 03:14.51 | NightHawkTheSane | Arrowmaster: yes, though thats not a 100% solution |
| 03:15.00 | theoddone33 | yeah, then lots of blood furnace I guess |
| 03:15.09 | theoddone33 | and shattered halls |
| 03:15.11 | RomanR | i was thinkinga bout questing in Shadowmoon til 70 |
| 03:15.18 | RomanR | im in netherstorm atm |
| 03:15.24 | Amadeo | they'll never nerf Blacksmithing now |
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| 03:15.28 | Amadeo | too many people switched to it |
| 03:15.35 | Arrowmaster | well now tier5 is an obvious upgrade to the bop tailoring stuff, but isnt the bs weapons still some of the best weapons in the game |
| 03:15.43 | RomanR | shadowmoon so i can get my class helm |
| 03:15.46 | theoddone33 | I went from 69 to 70 in about 5 hours in netherstorm |
| 03:15.47 | Arrowmaster | lots of people switched to tailoring |
| 03:15.49 | Arrowmaster | it got nerfed |
| 03:15.54 | theoddone33 | it was ridiculous |
| 03:16.05 | RomanR | lol |
| 03:16.13 | vhaarr | Kirin'Var <3 |
| 03:16.19 | Amadeo | I wasn't ever impressed with the tailoring even pre-nerf |
| 03:16.23 | Amadeo | was I missing something? |
| 03:16.32 | Arrowmaster | yes |
| 03:17.07 | Amadeo | what was good about it? |
| 03:17.22 | theoddone33 | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:17.24 | theoddone33 | and t5 |
| 03:17.25 | NightHawkTheSane | for certain classes it was just better itemized than t4/5? |
| 03:17.26 | Arrowmaster | FSW and SF are some of the best cloth items in the game, a lot of people would wear them over the 2.1 buffed t5 |
| 03:17.32 | theoddone33 | just what my shadow priest friend tells me |
| 03:17.44 | Arrowmaster | tier4 is total crap for caster itemization |
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| 03:18.05 | Arrowmaster | passed on that shit too many times to count now |
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| 03:18.53 | Amadeo | what's FSW and SF stand for? |
| 03:19.06 | Arrowmaster | Frozen Shadoweave |
| 03:19.08 | hyperChipmunk | frozen shadoweave |
| 03:19.13 | Arrowmaster | and Spell Fire |
| 03:19.44 | Amadeo | hm, I didn't think they even had stats, I guess they aren't bad |
| 03:20.19 | Amadeo | Spellfire looks crappy |
| 03:21.15 | theoddone33 | warlocks got al ittle screwed as I recall |
| 03:21.15 | Amadeo | Mage itemization sucks that much? |
| 03:21.15 | theoddone33 | by splitting up the shadow/fire |
| 03:21.15 | theoddone33 | but maybe not |
| 03:21.15 | Arrowmaster | i still love my FSW |
| 03:21.15 | Arrowmaster | and dont want to break the set because of the bonus |
| 03:22.23 | hyperChipmunk | the point was to make it either-or, not both |
| 03:22.33 | hyperChipmunk | if there was a shadowfire, that'd be ridiculous |
| 03:22.41 | Bibi`ouF | I think i'm stupid. :/ |
| 03:22.50 | hyperChipmunk | we know |
| 03:23.04 | Bibi`ouF | Yes, but I didn't know :/ |
| 03:23.12 | Bibi`ouF | what's the slash command for clearfont ? |
| 03:23.23 | hyperChipmunk | /imstupid |
| 03:23.30 | Bibi`ouF | already tried ! |
| 03:23.42 | Bibi`ouF | (I suppose there's a slash command if you want to use font packs, right ?) |
| 03:23.46 | hyperChipmunk | then you're stupid |
| 03:23.57 | ckknight | Bibi`ouF: Clearfont 1 or 2? |
| 03:24.00 | Bibi`ouF | 2 |
| 03:24.13 | ckknight | use the fubar menu? |
| 03:24.34 | Bibi`ouF | hmmmmm, activating fubar may help, thanks :p |
| 03:24.42 | ckknight | *shrug* |
| 03:24.44 | hyperChipmunk | stupid |
| 03:24.55 | ckknight | hyperChipmunk: play nice or you don't get a cookie |
| 03:25.09 | NightHawkTheSane | i like cookies |
| 03:25.13 | hyperChipmunk | i have animal crackers |
| 03:25.20 | hyperChipmunk | i don't need your stupid cookies |
| 03:25.39 | ckknight | stop PMSing. |
| 03:25.59 | NightHawkTheSane | i like animal crackers too |
| 03:26.30 | hyperChipmunk | i'm having a conversation with a frenchman; you have to know how to deal with their type or they'll get all honh-honh-honh on you |
| 03:26.45 | ckknight | lol |
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| 03:29.17 | Arrowmaster | hmm bittorrents being slow, guess ill fire up the newsgroup reader |
| 03:29.37 | hyperChipmunk | reader...hah |
| 03:29.45 | Arrowmaster | yeah lol |
| 03:29.53 | NightHawkTheSane | reader? i hardly know her! |
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| 03:33.44 | art3mis | meh |
| 03:34.08 | art3mis | is there any way to get to the chess event in kara if the servent entrance is locked? |
| 03:36.26 | Arrowmaster | wtf my newsgroup reader aint working |
| 03:37.15 | Amadeo | someone give me a good Warlock Demo spec :P |
| 03:38.01 | Eternally777 | art3mis: With a raid. |
| 03:40.14 | CIA-31 | 03nymbia * r34159 10Doodle/Doodle.lua: |
| 03:40.14 | CIA-31 | Doodle: |
| 03:40.14 | CIA-31 | - Fix a nil error |
| 03:40.47 | xlvii | wow |
| 03:40.51 | xlvii | just read the patch notes. |
| 03:40.54 | xlvii | for the test realm |
| 03:40.54 | xlvii | Rogue poisons no longer have charges. |
| 03:40.59 | xlvii | that's just uber cool. |
| 03:41.23 | NightHawkTheSane | xlvii: uh, welcome to like a month ago? :P |
| 03:41.34 | xlvii | nighthawkthesane, i never bothered to read it fully. |
| 03:41.43 | xlvii | when is 2.1 being released? |
| 03:42.16 | NightHawkTheSane | no date yet, but it's probably another monthish off |
| 03:42.39 | theoddone33 | yeah? some people I talked to were thinking tomorrow |
| 03:42.48 | nymbia | i say 2 weeks. |
| 03:43.13 | nymbia | 3 months after the start of the first arena season etc etc |
| 03:43.19 | theoddone33 | 2 weeks would be good |
| 03:43.31 | NightHawkTheSane | theoddone33: it wont be tomorrow, blue's stated as much explicitly |
| 03:43.36 | xlvii | "Assassination" Set: The haste bonus from this set will no longer be triggered if your attack does not land on the target. |
| 03:43.38 | xlvii | makes me cry |
| 03:43.46 | xlvii | no more kidney shot-ting bosses ;[ |
| 03:43.59 | theoddone33 | get more +hit |
| 03:44.09 | theoddone33 | oh immunities |
| 03:44.10 | theoddone33 | heh |
| 03:45.15 | sylvanaar | anyone know offhand how to set the text which aceconsole prefixes all your Print() calls with? Right now its using the title. anyone know the best way to change it? |
| 03:45.22 | Gngsk | xlvii, you had to know that'd get fixed eventually |
| 03:46.12 | xlvii | gngsk, i know ;( |
| 03:48.37 | ckknight | sylvanaar: um... call AceLibrary("AceConsole-2.0"):Print() directly? |
| 03:49.41 | hyperChipmunk | YourAddOn.Print("Prefix", "foo") O_o |
| 03:50.03 | ckknight | oh yea, that'd do |
| 03:50.08 | ckknight | it just tostring's the self |
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| 03:54.22 | sylvanaar | yeah, i tried to implement ToString |
| 03:55.02 | ckknight | your_mom = setmetatable({}, {__tostring = function(self) return "fat" end}) |
| 03:55.29 | sylvanaar | ^.^ |
| 03:55.43 | ckknight | *thumbs up* |
| 03:55.55 | ckknight | my code examples are both informational and degrading! |
| 03:56.40 | ckknight | omfg, why are blizz's forums broke? |
| 03:57.27 | ckknight | oh, also, can someone get the diff of the framexml for the previous PTR patch to the current PTR patch? |
| 03:57.37 | ckknight | I need something to read |
| 03:57.57 | hyperChipmunk | there a new-new one? |
| 03:59.30 | ckknight | um, I downloaded it right before this class |
| 03:59.34 | ckknight | 6022 or so |
| 03:59.40 | ckknight | something like that |
| 03:59.56 | hyperChipmunk | k |
| 03:59.59 | hyperChipmunk | sec |
| 04:00.07 | hyperChipmunk | (the previous was 6592 btw) |
| 04:00.30 | hyperChipmunk | so your number's wrong, but that's ok |
| 04:01.33 | hyperChipmunk | 6607 |
| 04:01.49 | ckknight | I was just guessing |
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| 04:01.56 | ckknight | 6607 seems right, I suppose |
| 04:02.03 | ckknight | though I thought 6607 was the last one |
| 04:02.07 | ckknight | and 6622 is the new one |
| 04:02.26 | hyperChipmunk | oh, well I have two then =p |
| 04:02.36 | ckknight | ;-) |
| 04:02.42 | Fin | ooh, hello sylvanaar |
| 04:02.43 | ckknight | Fin, ? |
| 04:02.47 | Fin | how was your holiday? |
| 04:03.09 | Fin | ckknight: just in case he's on IRC as someone he doesn't want to be bothered as |
| 04:03.19 | hyperChipmunk | he don't lurk |
| 04:03.28 | Fin | oh well |
| 04:03.35 | ckknight | lurking is kinda lame |
| 04:03.38 | hyperChipmunk | he's minor league |
| 04:03.42 | ckknight | I'd rather be out there and threaten my wrath |
| 04:04.09 | ckknight | hey, [Ammo] still has ops |
| 04:04.29 | Fin | Omnibus is nice, and Infinibar looks like the answer to everyone's problems... once (if?) they can figure out how to use it :) |
| 04:04.44 | hyperChipmunk | Expo ain't too shabby neither |
| 04:04.50 | ZealotOnAStick | Ops don't need to lurk. |
| 04:06.59 | sylvanaar | Fin hey fin it was nice |
| 04:07.36 | Fin | although... I did vaguely wonder about some sort of ckknight-produced bar addon appearing somehow |
| 04:07.55 | Fin | sylvanaar: nice one :) bit short though! you're back too early :P |
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| 04:08.17 | Fin | holidays should always be at least 10 days |
| 04:08.21 | ckknight | Fin, I was figuring a buff addon next, but honestly, this whole addon thing is taking too much time and is too stressful |
| 04:08.29 | ckknight | so I'm thinking I'm gonna learn piano |
| 04:08.31 | NightHawkTheSane | holidays are -always- too short. |
| 04:08.45 | Fin | fair enough |
| 04:09.03 | ckknight | and then I should become a big shot musician |
| 04:09.05 | ckknight | :-P |
| 04:09.06 | Diao | piano is a good stress reliever |
| 04:09.12 | Fin | sorry to hear you're getting stressed, though |
| 04:09.16 | Fin | so is heroin |
| 04:09.24 | ckknight | I don't put much credence into classical music or anything like that |
| 04:09.41 | Fin | considered perhaps a light smack habit? |
| 04:09.42 | ckknight | I like modern day alternative and folk piano musicians |
| 04:10.01 | Fin | just a thought |
| 04:10.06 | ckknight | I mean, guitar and all that is nice as well |
| 04:10.13 | ckknight | but frankly, I think the piano is easier than the guitar |
| 04:10.33 | ckknight | smack wouldn't fit into my budget, Fin |
| 04:11.34 | Fin | ohhh, I don't know, I understand heroin can bring out people's creative sides... thinking up ways to get money |
| 04:11.48 | Diao | lol |
| 04:11.53 | Diao | like robbing banks |
| 04:11.55 | ckknight | I'm more a fan of amphetamines |
| 04:11.56 | Diao | ;) |
| 04:12.01 | ckknight | rather than heroin |
| 04:12.03 | Fin | yeah! stuff like that |
| 04:12.32 | Fin | I'm not *entirely* convinced speed is going to really help alleviate any stress you might be experiencing |
| 04:12.44 | ckknight | I was thinking to help me come up with songs |
| 04:13.11 | ckknight | I have thought up titles of songs, though |
| 04:13.11 | ckknight | for some reason |
| 04:13.23 | Fin | well titles are definitely going to be needed at some point |
| 04:13.31 | ckknight | here's what I got |
| 04:13.32 | Fin | go on then |
| 04:13.35 | Fin | give us some |
| 04:13.35 | Fin | ah |
| 04:13.45 | ckknight | "The Life and Death of Chaucer" |
| 04:13.58 | ckknight | which'd likely be about the evolution of modern culture, potentially |
| 04:14.03 | ckknight | I see poetry as a dead art form |
| 04:14.04 | hyperChipmunk | ckknight: d/ling the new one now |
| 04:14.15 | Fin | do you have any idea of what the song's like? |
| 04:14.36 | Fin | I see poetry as an undead art form |
| 04:14.57 | ckknight | dead in the sense that it has evolved due to technology |
| 04:15.04 | Fin | actually that's unfair, I just don't get it most of the time |
| 04:15.10 | ckknight | oh, I'd be doing mostly mellow, alternative, folky songs |
| 04:15.25 | Fin | on speed |
| 04:15.34 | ckknight | mmm... yea? |
| 04:15.37 | Fin | *alternative* mellow |
| 04:15.47 | ckknight | alternative rock style |
| 04:15.53 | ckknight | though more mellow |
| 04:16.01 | ckknight | but a little more upbeat than Norah Jones |
| 04:16.12 | Fin | upbeat is good |
| 04:16.23 | ckknight | somewhere along the lines of Daniel Powter or Vanessa Carlton |
| 04:16.24 | Fin | I think there's not enough smiling in music these days |
| 04:16.34 | Fin | or even smirks |
| 04:16.48 | ckknight | well, I like to have hidden meaning |
| 04:16.52 | Fin | it's just cynical looks and defiant frowns |
| 04:16.57 | ckknight | another song title: "Good times in the pipeline" |
| 04:17.02 | ckknight | that'd be upbeat |
| 04:17.04 | Fin | that's a good one |
| 04:17.11 | ckknight | it alludes to male ejaculation |
| 04:17.17 | Fin | excellent |
| 04:17.25 | ckknight | but never explicitly |
| 04:17.34 | chutwig | blop |
| 04:17.35 | Fin | big hands you know you're the one |
| 04:18.14 | ckknight | and, really, I don't have a bad voice |
| 04:18.19 | ckknight | I'm a Barotone |
| 04:18.25 | Fin | erm |
| 04:18.27 | Fin | what does that mean? |
| 04:18.28 | CIA-31 | 03sylvanaar * r34160 10Prat/extras/util.lua: Prat: get_color now always returns 3 values r,g,b if they are table fields, or 1.0,1.0,1.0 in all other cases |
| 04:18.30 | hyperChipmunk | baritone |
| 04:18.32 | NightHawkTheSane | Baritone |
| 04:18.35 | ckknight | Baritone, that's it |
| 04:18.38 | hyperChipmunk | it's between base and tenor |
| 04:18.40 | hyperChipmunk | bass* |
| 04:18.44 | Fin | ah, k, thanks |
| 04:19.03 | ckknight | I'm the only one of me and my brothers with any musical talent |
| 04:19.13 | ckknight | or my parents |
| 04:19.21 | ckknight | have no damn reason where I got it from |
| 04:19.24 | Fin | what do they get instead? |
| 04:19.26 | ckknight | err, idea* |
| 04:19.33 | ckknight | fin, one's a lawyer, one's a businessman |
| 04:19.38 | Fin | perhaps they're not your real family |
| 04:19.43 | Fin | -typo |
| 04:19.43 | ckknight | oh, they are |
| 04:19.44 | hyperChipmunk | ah, they're successful |
| 04:19.48 | ckknight | we all have our quirks |
| 04:19.57 | Fin | they had you! |
| 04:20.04 | ckknight | lol |
| 04:20.05 | Fin | haha, sorry |
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| 04:20.22 | ckknight | hyperChipmunk, it's inevitable that we'll all end up with our own businesses |
| 04:20.23 | Fin | shouldn't joke about people's family until you know them well enough |
| 04:20.32 | ckknight | both my parents do |
| 04:20.37 | ckknight | my middle brother does |
| 04:20.37 | Fin | after you've slept with someone's sister is a good time |
| 04:20.49 | ckknight | my oldest brother will get his own firm eventually |
| 04:21.26 | ckknight | Daniel Powter - Bad Day is a good song |
| 04:21.33 | ckknight | but it's kinda sad, though |
| 04:21.49 | ckknight | well, just depressing |
| 04:21.55 | Fin | I like happy music |
| 04:22.00 | ckknight | same |
| 04:22.13 | ckknight | you know what's also good? upbeat music that's about something horrible |
| 04:22.19 | ckknight | The Mountain Goats do that a lot |
| 04:22.21 | Fin | silly stuff that makes you smile is good |
| 04:22.38 | Fin | lyrics? |
| 04:22.39 | ckknight | like Dance Music is really upbeat and it's about his father abusing his mother |
| 04:22.41 | NightHawkTheSane | that's about half of TMBG's repertoire |
| 04:22.44 | CIA-31 | 03sylvanaar * r34161 10Prat/extras/util.lua: Prat: added get_default_color() which returns 1.0, 1.0, 1.0 |
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| 04:23.12 | hyperChipmunk | ckknight: pastey? |
| 04:23.16 | xlvii | nighthawkthesane, tmbg>? |
| 04:23.24 | NightHawkTheSane | xlvii: They Might Be Giants |
| 04:23.25 | Fin | I'm actually thinking about making a little compilation of happy |
| 04:23.37 | ckknight | hyperChipmunk, pastey for what? |
| 04:23.43 | ckknight | NightHawkTheSane, I'm not big into ska |
| 04:23.43 | hyperChipmunk | the diff |
| 04:23.48 | ckknight | hyperChipmunk, ah, yea |
| 04:23.53 | NightHawkTheSane | o_0 er |
| 04:23.56 | NightHawkTheSane | tmbg isnt ska |
| 04:24.12 | ckknight | perhaps I'm thinking of something else |
| 04:24.28 | art3mis | whos maintaining topscorefu? |
| 04:24.34 | ckknight | me, sorta |
| 04:24.38 | art3mis | appearantly its not recording mindflay |
| 04:24.38 | ckknight | but as I told you, I stopped caring |
| 04:24.57 | art3mis | told me? |
| 04:25.03 | art3mis | this is the first time ive asked ;P |
| 04:25.24 | ckknight | I told the channel |
| 04:25.39 | art3mis | well fine i dont pay attention |
| 04:25.50 | hyperChipmunk | http://ace.pastey.net/20008 |
| 04:26.02 | Fin | http://pgl.yoyo.org/c/m/ischief/fpm_aventure.mp3 |
| 04:26.13 | CIA-31 | 03totalpackage * r34162 10FuBar_Usage/ (. FuBar_Usage.toc Usage.lua): |
| 04:26.13 | CIA-31 | FuBar_Usage: |
| 04:26.14 | CIA-31 | - initial import |
| 04:27.32 | Fin | I thought chipmunks squeeked? |
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| 04:27.34 | Fin | squawk? |
| 04:27.39 | Fin | hmm |
| 04:27.57 | Fin | sqwoke |
| 04:28.04 | hyperChipmunk | the import script should pour molten death on anyone that uses 'initial import' as the entirety of their commit message |
| 04:28.43 | NightHawkTheSane | hyperChipmunk: i don't know, that doesn't seem suitably harsh |
| 04:28.58 | Fin | besides death is a bitch to melt |
| 04:30.09 | Fin | death is kind of a bitch a lot of the time really |
| 04:30.34 | ckknight | gtg |
| 04:32.56 | CIA-31 | 03totalpackage * r34163 10FuBar_Usage/: |
| 04:32.56 | CIA-31 | FuBar_Usage: |
| 04:32.56 | CIA-31 | - externals |
| 04:34.52 | Gngsk | lol? |
| 04:34.55 | Gngsk | ircatschool.com! |
| 04:35.22 | hyperChipmunk | ircatschool is weak |
| 04:35.27 | hyperChipmunk | ircatwork is really good though |
| 04:36.30 | Diao | what's the difference |
| 04:36.31 | Diao | lol |
| 04:37.15 | art3mis | the amount of boobies |
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| 04:37.57 | NightHawkTheSane | the amount of boobies worth looking at, at least. |
| 04:37.58 | hyperChipmunk | @school is a java applet |
| 04:38.14 | hyperChipmunk | @work isn't, and it's much nicer |
| 04:38.23 | hyperChipmunk | see for yourself |
| 04:39.16 | ckknight | back |
| 04:39.20 | NightHawkTheSane | hm, @work does seem a bit nicer |
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| 04:39.31 | ckknight | hyperChipmunk: can you link me the diff again? |
| 04:39.51 | hyperChipmunk | http://ace.pastey.net/20008 |
| 04:40.23 | NightHawkTheSane | course, at work i usually just end up using gaim or mirc or someshit |
| 04:41.22 | vhaarr | hyperChipmunk: ooh, nice |
| 04:41.59 | vhaarr | wtf |
| 04:42.14 | vhaarr | I didn't even know |if y and not(x) then| was valid |
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| 04:42.48 | ckknight | um, same as `if y and not x then` |
| 04:42.53 | vhaarr | clearly |
| 04:43.03 | ckknight | the not doesn't work as a function or anything |
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| 04:43.42 | hyperChipmunk | lol |
| 04:43.48 | hyperChipmunk | vhaarr: where'd you see that? |
| 04:43.58 | vhaarr | 158+ if ( SHOW_PARTY_BACKGROUND == "1" and GetNumPartyMembers() > 0 and not(HIDE_PARTY_INTERFACE == "1" and (GetNumRaidMembers() > 0)) ) then |
| 04:44.05 | vhaarr | ckknight: I get how it works, I just didn't know it was possible. |
| 04:44.13 | ckknight | why wouldn't it be? |
| 04:44.15 | hyperChipmunk | lol |
| 04:44.17 | Arrowmaster | art3mis: what does the combatlog show for mindflay damage? |
| 04:44.19 | ckknight | :-P |
| 04:44.22 | vhaarr | what the fuck kind of question is that |
| 04:44.24 | vhaarr | :P |
| 04:44.27 | sylvanaar | haha |
| 04:44.36 | hyperChipmunk | more "i never actually thought someone would think of it that way" i think |
| 04:44.48 | Diao | you thought they'd do nested ifs instead? |
| 04:44.53 | ckknight | I tend to use not a or not b rather than not (a and b) |
| 04:45.00 | vhaarr | yes, me too |
| 04:45.04 | vhaarr | obviously |
| 04:45.10 | hyperChipmunk | no, as not(x) function-like |
| 04:45.18 | Diao | oh |
| 04:45.22 | Diao | it's just demorgan's law :o |
| 04:45.41 | sylvanaar | not ( a and b ) has fewer precedence issues |
| 04:47.06 | hyperChipmunk | =/ i can only train Surestrike Goggles v2.0 |
| 04:47.10 | Fin | hey why the fuck didn't anyone tell me it's may 1st today |
| 04:47.11 | Fin | jesus christ |
| 04:47.13 | hyperChipmunk | i want the rogue ones =( |
| 04:47.29 | sylvanaar | they restored my items, but no enchants, gems or gold |
| 04:47.36 | Bruners | Fin: you should now that yourselfe ? |
| 04:47.38 | NightHawkTheSane | Fin: because its not yet here? |
| 04:47.55 | sylvanaar | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:48.08 | hyperChipmunk | oh that's okay |
| 04:48.08 | hyperChipmunk | they don't appear in my engineering list anywoy |
| 04:48.21 | hyperChipmunk | =\ |
| 04:59.06 | ckknight | hawt |
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| 05:04.58 | Fin | snap |
| 05:05.06 | NightHawkTheSane | do.. do you two want a room? |
| 05:05.40 | Gngsk | I'd like a room, through which I can view the action. |
| 05:05.53 | Fin | a room with a view... |
| 05:06.42 | NightHawkTheSane | Fin: how about one with nice comfy padded walls. do you like eggshell white? |
| 05:06.48 | CIA-31 | 03sylvanaar * r34164 10Prat/Prat.lua: Prat: set the .title field to "Prat" |
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| 05:18.34 | Funkeh` | later |
| 05:20.08 | ckknight | this GarageBand program is pretty cool |
| 05:20.33 | ckknight | I wish I could hook up a proper keyboard to it, though, the space they allow is not nearly enough |
| 05:20.36 | sylvanaar | ckknight how about this change: http://ace.pastey.net/20042 |
| 05:20.50 | ckknight | change from what? |
| 05:20.59 | ckknight | I don't handle AceDebug |
| 05:21.01 | ckknight | nor use it |
| 05:21.03 | sylvanaar | o |
| 05:21.06 | sylvanaar | who does |
| 05:21.30 | sylvanaar | change from hardcoded string |
| 05:21.44 | vhaarr | sylvanaar: a diff would be nice |
| 05:21.51 | sylvanaar | vhaarr sure |
| 05:23.55 | NightHawkTheSane | ckknight: you can hook up a keyboard to if it has proper midi out |
| 05:23.55 | ckknight | maybe... |
| 05:25.13 | ckknight | I've come up with a tune |
| 05:25.20 | ckknight | but it really feels like I've heard it before |
| 05:25.25 | ckknight | possibly in Final Fantasy or something |
| 05:25.28 | ckknight | it has that feel to it |
| 05:26.07 | sylvanaar | http://ace.pastey.net/20045 |
| 05:26.20 | mjc | moo |
| 05:27.15 | ckknight | anti-moo |
| 05:27.34 | sylvanaar | soy |
| 05:27.43 | NightHawkTheSane | baaah. |
| 05:32.01 | ckknight | alright, time to go home |
| 05:32.36 | Bruners | Wo lei si le |
| 05:34.21 | vhaarr | sylvanaar: Call it GetDebugPrefix instead, and it's fine by me |
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| 05:38.38 | break19 | hey sylvanaar, is there any way to move JUST guild login notifications from one chatframe to another? I have guild chat in a separate frame, and would like to put the notifications there if it's possible.. I'm sure it's not as prat stands right now to just move those, but is it possible at all? |
| 05:42.58 | CIA-31 | 03funkydude * r34165 10BigWigs/ (11 files in 3 dirs): BigWigs: highlight cooldowns in TBC instances |
| 05:43.05 | sylvanaar | vhaarr cool |
| 05:43.25 | sylvanaar | break19 yes, sorta |
| 05:44.04 | Diao | I use SMCT for that |
| 05:45.19 | CIA-31 | 03rabbit * r34166 10ag_UnitFrames/ (7 files in 3 dirs): |
| 05:45.19 | CIA-31 | ag_UnitFrames: |
| 05:45.19 | CIA-31 | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:45.19 | CIA-31 | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:45.45 | sylvanaar | yeah, thats the best way SMCT - if it works with prat |
| 05:45.53 | Diao | it works perfectly with prat :p |
| 05:45.59 | sylvanaar | cool |
| 05:46.32 | break19 | Diao: for what I said? |
| 05:46.54 | Diao | yeah break19 |
| 05:46.55 | break19 | i thought that was a combat text thing? |
| 05:46.57 | Diao | http://wow-en.curse-gaming.com/downloads/details/1959/system-message-control-tool/ |
| 05:47.01 | Diao | it says out of date |
| 05:47.04 | Diao | just change the toc to 20003 |
| 05:47.05 | Diao | and it works fine |
| 05:47.06 | sylvanaar | prat has a custom filter module, i have used it to change the look of some system messages, but its not selective per-frame |
| 05:47.22 | Diao | oh wait |
| 05:47.26 | Diao | http://ui.worldofwar.net/ui.php?id=1596 |
| 05:47.28 | Diao | updated version |
| 05:49.14 | break19 | kk |
| 05:49.20 | break19 | just grabbed it tnx |
| 05:49.28 | FISKER_Q | i\m so tired |
| 05:49.34 | Diao | np |
| 05:49.36 | sylvanaar | here are my settings for the custom filter if you want to try em http://ace.pastey.net/20062 |
| 05:49.45 | break19 | dunno why i thought it was a combat text mod.. just so used to people writing them.. heh |
| 05:50.01 | Diao | probably cause |
| 05:50.04 | Diao | SCT sounds like SMCT :P |
| 05:50.36 | break19 | possibly.. but honestly, the bliz one suits my needs.. so. :) |
| 05:50.44 | Diao | hehe |
| 05:50.49 | Diao | i use a lot of custom notifications |
| 05:52.07 | break19 | thnx sylvanaar, now I can see how to write my own filters.. perhaps I'll write a bunch of them for anti-spam, and include it.. is there a way for filters in prat to also silence the normal whisper sound for filtered things? |
| 05:53.06 | break19 | i like taggle, but I still get the "dink" sound as if I got a message while taggle filtered it heh |
| 05:54.29 | break19 | also, does anyone here have a clue how to use custommenufu? heh |
| 05:54.34 | sylvanaar | break19 well, im not sure, to be honest |
| 05:54.52 | sylvanaar | break19 i have it installed, but i have never used custommenufu |
| 05:54.58 | sylvanaar | vhaarr http://ace.pastey.net/20065 |
| 05:59.42 | sylvanaar | break19 if the normal whisper sound is played when you filter something with prat, then i'd have to install a higher level hook in order to be able to disable the sound |
| 06:00.14 | CIA-31 | 03rabbit * r34167 10FuBar_GroupFu/GroupFu.lua: FuBar_GroupFu: Don't clear the rolls when announcing if Roll clearing is set to Never. |
| 06:00.31 | break19 | sylvanaar: thats my question.. is it, or isnt it? cuz i dunno if it is or not.. since taggle doesnt integrate with prat, but hooks whispers itself. |
| 06:02.34 | FISKER_Q | weird |
| 06:02.35 | Fin | I'm curious, what's the benefit of Taggle over other spam filters like SpamSentry? |
| 06:02.50 | Fin | I always thought SpamSentry was pretty light |
| 06:02.52 | FISKER_Q | If you plow your inventory while using postal to open all mail |
| 06:02.56 | FISKER_Q | then it goes like 3 times as fast |
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| 06:03.33 | FISKER_Q | more like 5 times |
| 06:04.04 | CIA-31 | 03rabbit * r34168 10Ace2/AceDebug-2.0/AceDebug-2.0.lua: .AceDebug-2.0: Added GetDebugPrefix from sylvanaar. |
| 06:04.21 | sylvanaar | vhaarr thanks |
| 06:04.30 | vhaarr | FISKER_Q: yeah, it's not weird, it's because Postal is shit |
| 06:04.32 | vhaarr | sylvanaar: np |
| 06:04.46 | FISKER_Q | :O |
| 06:04.59 | FISKER_Q | why is that? |
| 06:05.09 | break19 | Fin: taggle is lighter than spamsentry |
| 06:05.16 | sylvanaar | break19 i like spamsentry. prat's stuff is more general purpose |
| 06:05.28 | vhaarr | FISKER_Q: Basically, if there are bag update events happening while "Open All" is in progress, it will proceed with the next mail right away, and if not, it will wait *1 second* before it takes the next one. |
| 06:05.42 | FISKER_Q | weird |
| 06:05.47 | vhaarr | It's not weird. |
| 06:05.51 | vhaarr | It's just fucking crap code. |
| 06:05.57 | sylvanaar | lol |
| 06:06.01 | break19 | point me to something better :) |
| 06:06.26 | FISKER_Q | I thought it was weird he would make it wait 1 second :P |
| 06:06.35 | break19 | wrt to postal that is. |
| 06:07.08 | vhaarr | someone should just fix it |
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| 06:07.33 | vhaarr | I'm not waiting for that guy to come back, whoever he was - even forgot his nick |
| 06:07.44 | vhaarr | grennon |
| 06:07.59 | FISKER_Q | "Not like you could do it anyways" |
| 06:08.04 | vhaarr | :P |
| 06:09.19 | break19 | vhaarr: well. whenever any of us plebes say "someone should fix X" you aristocrats with the @s say "sounds good, go fix it" .. so..... sounds good, fix it. :) |
| 06:09.41 | Gngsk | The Aristocrats! |
| 06:09.45 | vhaarr | doesn't work when non-ops say it |
| 06:10.08 | NightHawkTheSane | break19: you have to remember, us plebes dont matter around here :P |
| 06:10.10 | break19 | how bout now? lol |
| 06:10.14 | NightHawkTheSane | we're just here to be abused by the ops |
| 06:12.25 | break19 | speaking of +o.. i remember back in my prime. i tricked an op into /mode +own me heh. |
| 06:12.25 | FISKER_Q | Anyone know a good Core2 motherboard? |
| 06:14.04 | FISKER_Q | no overclocking or sli required |
| 06:14.04 | break19 | "you couldnt +own me of you tried.." "whats +own?" "doesnt just kick me from the channel, but from the server" heh |
| 06:14.04 | break19 | so he did.. and I immediately deopped him. lol |
| 06:15.21 | theoddone33 | nice |
| 06:15.26 | NightHawkTheSane | break19: wow, he must have been a real idiot |
| 06:15.34 | break19 | he was. heh |
| 06:16.06 | break19 | unfortunately, the ircops knew me by then.. and I was klined yet again for another week lol |
| 06:16.18 | theoddone33 | that sounds like it's a log that's worth bash.orging |
| 06:16.22 | break19 | but it was fun while it lasted heh |
| 06:16.23 | theoddone33 | if it's still around |
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| 06:22.56 | CIA-31 | 03totalpackage * r34169 10FuBar_Usage/: |
| 06:22.56 | CIA-31 | FuBar_Usage: |
| 06:22.56 | CIA-31 | - external fix |
| 06:24.36 | CIA-31 | 03totalpackage * r34170 10FuBar_Usage/: |
| 06:24.36 | CIA-31 | FuBar_Usage: |
| 06:24.36 | CIA-31 | - externals headache |
| 06:25.50 | CIA-31 | 03sylvanaar * r34171 10Prat/Prat.lua: Prat: Using the GetDebugPrefix() support |
| 06:26.24 | CIA-31 | 03totalpackage * r34172 10FuBar_Usage/: |
| 06:26.24 | CIA-31 | FuBar_Usage: |
| 06:26.24 | CIA-31 | - I suck at fubar plugins |
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| 06:27.49 | ckknight | hey all |
| 06:28.38 | Fin | FISKER_Q: Asus P5W DH Deluxe |
| 06:29.18 | Fin | aloha |
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| 06:37.15 | Silviu- | hey ckk |
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| 06:40.26 | sylvanaar | asus = teh suck. well, im not using anything but intel anymore at least |
| 06:42.13 | CIA-31 | 03next96 * r34173 10SimpleCombatLog/localization-koKR.lua: |
| 06:42.14 | CIA-31 | SimpleCombatLog : |
| 06:42.14 | CIA-31 | - Update locale koKR |
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| 06:46.21 | Gothtar | I so wish there was a way to be able to control iTunes through a Fubar plugin |
| 06:46.45 | vhaarr | There is? If you're on a Mac. |
| 06:47.18 | Gothtar | I yam |
| 06:47.22 | break19 | my keybinds are fairly simple. alt rightarrow skips forward, altleftarrow skips back, altup play altdown pause :) |
| 06:47.24 | Gothtar | whats it called? |
| 06:47.35 | Gothtar | I have the Keybindings set up |
| 06:47.46 | break19 | and alt+/- for volume control |
| 06:47.47 | Gothtar | but I want it to show me whats playing |
| 06:47.50 | vhaarr | I didn't say the plugin existed, I'm saying it's possible to do it with a FuBar plugin. |
| 06:48.11 | break19 | semantics. lol |
| 06:48.13 | Gothtar | I have it set to ctrl+space/arrow keys |
| 06:48.22 | Gothtar | right |
| 06:48.33 | Gothtar | I guess I'll just have to learn Lua then |
| 06:48.40 | vhaarr | unless it requires hardware events, I don't know |
| 06:48.45 | break19 | he didnt say he wished for a plugin already out there that could do it, he wished for it to be able to be done. which it can be.. just no one has bothered to write the plugin yet :) |
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| 06:49.09 | Gothtar | damnit, now I have to write it |
| 06:49.16 | Gothtar | I have been dreading this day |
| 06:49.42 | Gothtar | I was just hoping to not have to write anything and let everyone else write adons |
| 06:49.46 | Gothtar | *addons |
| 06:49.59 | vhaarr | Gothtar: This was my first FuBar addon: http://svn.wowace.com/wowace/trunk/FuBar_TinyTipFu/ (and also my first addon, I believe). |
| 06:51.17 | Gothtar | oh, alright |
| 06:51.22 | Gothtar | maybe it wont be so bad |
| 06:53.47 | CIA-31 | 03sylvanaar * r34174 10Prat/ (Prat.lua extras/util.lua): Prat: Show the subsystem in the debug messages |
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| 07:03.05 | CIA-31 | 03sylvanaar * r34175 10Prat/ (4 files in 4 dirs): Prat: Enabling the LoD version for autounpack via WAU |
| 07:04.18 | ckknight | crappy sound equipment |
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| 07:04.30 | ckknight | I need to by a special jack to plug in my headphones to my keyboard |
| 07:07.33 | hyperChipmunk | get a real sound system, noob |
| 07:10.23 | ZealotOnAStick | Get a USB headset. |
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| 07:19.32 | NightHawkTheSane | i'm out of ice cream. |
| 07:19.40 | SquishemHard | omg noooo |
| 07:19.54 | NightHawkTheSane | i know, right? |
| 07:19.58 | SquishemHard | how will you make it? |
| 07:20.27 | break19 | EYM IN UR FREEZERZ, EATN UR ICECREAMZ |
| 07:20.29 | sedatedChipmunk | i have ice cream |
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| 07:20.46 | sedatedChipmunk | it is delicious |
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| 07:20.59 | Fisker- | cream sucks |
| 07:21.00 | NightHawkTheSane | break19: somehow, i doubt that, as I've finished off the last of my pomegranate chip myself. |
| 07:21.17 | sedatedChipmunk | wtf pomegranate ice cream |
| 07:21.20 | NightHawkTheSane | break19: but please, help yourself to the year old cube steaks ive got in there. |
| 07:21.22 | break19 | you doubt my ninjafu? |
| 07:21.44 | NightHawkTheSane | break19: oh no, i fully accept that you're in my freezer. :P |
| 07:21.57 | sedatedChipmunk | i doubt all fu in u |
| 07:22.04 | break19 | i can swipe bites out gallons of ice cream faster than rosie odonnel trashes bush on the view. |
| 07:22.19 | sedatedChipmunk | good god, man |
| 07:23.06 | break19 | i dont even need a spoon.. and you'll never know I was there, save for the toothprint |
| 07:23.06 | Gothtar | thats damn fast |
| 07:23.06 | break19 | yea.. toothprint.. I'm from alabama :p |
| 07:23.07 | SquishemHard | hey thar |
| 07:23.07 | sedatedChipmunk | lol |
| 07:23.07 | NightHawkTheSane | haha |
| 07:23.07 | sedatedChipmunk | boy howdy |
| 07:23.23 | SquishemHard | anyone know of a mod that overrides your combat log ranges? OR if theres a way to hook into the function that sets the ranges? |
| 07:23.26 | break19 | ya'll *do* know the toothbrush was INVENTED in alabama right? |
| 07:23.54 | sedatedChipmunk | where in alabama, btw? |
| 07:23.57 | Arrowmaster | adjusting combatlog ranges got nerfed |
| 07:24.00 | break19 | yep.. anywhere else, it'd been called the teethbrush |
| 07:24.13 | break19 | sedatedChipmunk: gulf coast, just outside mobile, to be exact |
| 07:24.15 | NightHawkTheSane | Arrowmaster: ... it did? >< |
| 07:24.17 | SquishemHard | Arrow: nerfed how? :( |
| 07:24.21 | sedatedChipmunk | ah =p |
| 07:24.32 | Arrowmaster | cant be changed |
| 07:24.41 | break19 | if I walk a mile, I'll be inside the city limits :p |
| 07:24.47 | sedatedChipmunk | my g/f lives in huntsville |
| 07:24.52 | CIA-31 | 03sylvanaar * r34176 10Prat/ (Prat.lua Prat_AutoLoD/autolod.lua): Prat: Cleaned up the messages from the AutoLoD module |
| 07:24.59 | SquishemHard | Since when? Next patch? |
| 07:25.13 | break19 | in huntsville proper, or one of it's neighboring townships? |
| 07:25.21 | Arrowmaster | atleast since 2.0.12 |
| 07:25.22 | sedatedChipmunk | in the city |
| 07:25.32 | break19 | my cousin lives up there.. works for a nasa subcontractor, the lucky bastard |
| 07:25.33 | sedatedChipmunk | right off that big road |
| 07:25.42 | sedatedChipmunk | =P |
| 07:25.54 | break19 | he's a sysadmin |
| 07:26.13 | sedatedChipmunk | yea, everyone there does that sort of thing |
| 07:26.23 | sedatedChipmunk | it's an entire city of engineers |
| 07:26.26 | SquishemHard | Do the changes just not stick? Deadly Boss Mods sets it... |
| 07:26.26 | Arrowmaster | my uncled used to be a nasa subcontractor |
| 07:26.28 | NightHawkTheSane | Arrowmaster: er, so in live now that you cant change combat log range? hmmm |
| 07:26.42 | sedatedChipmunk | anyway, finished my ice cream; time for bed |
| 07:26.49 | sedatedChipmunk | before the birds start chirping >8\ |
| 07:26.59 | Arrowmaster | you can change the cvars and not get errors, but nothing happens |
| 07:27.21 | SquishemHard | How do you know this? And do you know what its set att? |
| 07:28.10 | Arrowmaster | was a rumor going around and i noticed it on netherspite when i was out of range to get bigwigs bars for the netherbreaths |
| 07:31.43 | SquishemHard | That would suck so horribly if it was unchangable and low like that :/ |
| 07:31.54 | sylvanaar | will you guys who use prat + wau update, and let me know if there are any issues moving from non-lod to lod |
| 07:31.54 | Arrowmaster | you know speaking of nasa subcontractors..... its almost been 6 years and ive still yet to hear anything about the project my uncle was working on before it got burried after 9/11 |
| 07:31.56 | Fisker- | it was always nerfed Arrowmaster! |
| 07:32.11 | Fisker- | I've told you a billion times that from when Bigwigs put it in and until now it has never _EVER_ worked |
| 07:32.31 | Arrowmaster | when bigwigs put it in i know for a fact that it worked |
| 07:33.00 | Arrowmaster | was annoying in bwl when i was getting shit in witchhunt for the suppresion room while we were doing razorgore |
| 07:33.16 | Fisker- | I know for a fact it didn't :o |
| 07:33.28 | break19 | sylvanaar: I dont use wau, but wuu supports the same files wau uses.. but as I'm leavin for work in about 30mins, i dont have time right now, but will when I get home. |
| 07:33.29 | ckknight | Piano's not so hard, it seems |
| 07:33.30 | Fisker- | And if i remember correctly the razorgore room is underneath the suppression room |
| 07:33.38 | Arrowmaster | yes it is |
| 07:34.00 | Arrowmaster | but with the default combat log distance you would never see combatlog messages from the suppression room while in razorgores room |
| 07:34.14 | SquishemHard | Well, Im bored. So is if possible to I guess hook the SetCVar function so other mods cant change the combat log range? |
| 07:34.23 | break19 | learning the keys/notes it's easy, ckknight, but actually making your hands do what you want, takes a good amount of practice |
| 07:34.25 | Fisker- | i know atleast that the increased combat log did nothing on razorgore |
| 07:34.39 | ckknight | break19: I'm learning how to play White Houses by Vanessa Carlton |
| 07:34.44 | Fisker- | Being that i was the only one with bigwigs there was no sync |
| 07:34.47 | ckknight | not the easiest song in the world |
| 07:34.54 | Arrowmaster | changing it from 30yd to 50yd and you would get the messages from the suppression room |
| 07:35.11 | Fisker- | and when i went out of range then Bigwigs wouldn't detect anything |
| 07:35.13 | Arrowmaster | Fisker-: thats because the sliders in the bigwigs menus didnt effect group messages |
| 07:35.33 | Fisker- | what does that have to do with it? |
| 07:35.37 | Arrowmaster | the egg break was a friendly combat log message |
| 07:35.54 | Arrowmaster | since it was from a mind controlled unit |
| 07:35.56 | Fisker- | ah |
| 07:36.14 | SquishemHard | yeah, theres 8 different ranges you can set |
| 07:36.14 | Fisker- | You could've saved me the emberassment back then! |
| 07:36.17 | SquishemHard | or so |
| 07:36.39 | Arrowmaster | as soon as i found those cvars ive head the death msg distance set to 200yd |
| 07:36.50 | ckknight | break19: I used to play a little when I was 10 or so, so I'm not like a total noob |
| 07:37.00 | Arrowmaster | one man nef count! |
| 07:37.02 | Fisker- | atleast they should per default set the range to 50 yards or something |
| 07:37.11 | SquishemHard | i want 200! |
| 07:37.15 | sedatedChipmunk | yes you are, l2p |
| 07:37.20 | SquishemHard | So SW Stats catched evvvereything |
| 07:37.25 | Arrowmaster | i think the defaults are 30 and 40 |
| 07:39.10 | SquishemHard | So yeah... any way to steal SetCVar stuff? |
| 07:39.29 | Arrowmaster | isnt there an event when cvars get changed? |
| 07:39.52 | SquishemHard | Thats a good question, ill look into it |
| 07:40.01 | Arrowmaster | if so register for it and check the cvar, if its not what you want it to be set at then change it |
| 07:40.06 | SquishemHard | So there is no way to overload the function or something though? |
| 07:40.12 | Arrowmaster | but dont just change it everytime the event fires |
| 07:40.21 | Arrowmaster | that would be bad |
| 07:40.29 | SquishemHard | naa |
| 07:40.34 | SquishemHard | overloading is fun |
| 07:41.08 | SquishemHard | Unless blizzard says its bad |
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| 07:41.12 | Arrowmaster | probably a bad idea to normally hook and taint the setcvar command |
| 07:41.27 | Arrowmaster | since a lot of blizzard code for the options menu uses it |
| 07:41.33 | SquishemHard | ahh, that tainting crap is annoying |
| 07:42.28 | SquishemHard | thanks for the tips! |
| 07:42.59 | Arrowmaster | if you secure hook it and dont do it properly you also run the risk of looping |
| 07:43.48 | Arrowmaster | checking the cvar and only changing it if its not set to what you want when an event fires is probably the best way |
| 07:43.49 | SquishemHard | Meh ill go with the hacking version. |
| 07:43.56 | SquishemHard | yeah that way |
| 07:44.19 | Arrowmaster | bah almost 4am here |
| 07:44.30 | SquishemHard | 1am 4 me! |
| 07:44.30 | Arrowmaster | need to get some sleep before my 11am class |
| 07:44.40 | SquishemHard | also have an 11am class |
| 07:44.50 | sedatedChipmunk | ckknight: http://www.gamemusicthemes.com/download.php?get=WarcraftIIHumanTheme1&type=zip |
| 07:45.10 | ckknight | can I do that on piano? |
| 07:45.30 | sedatedChipmunk | it's arranged for piano |
| 07:45.45 | ckknight | oh, pimp |
| 07:45.48 | sedatedChipmunk | i do, at least |
| 07:45.58 | sedatedChipmunk | one of my favorite ones; there's others on the site too |
| 07:46.10 | sedatedChipmunk | but the human 1 theme is my favorite to play |
| 07:47.04 | ckknight | oh fuck, it's in 12/8 |
| 07:47.13 | sedatedChipmunk | just the opening |
| 07:47.14 | ckknight | you know how complex all the multiples of 3 are :-( |
| 07:47.31 | sedatedChipmunk | and just think of it as fast 6/8 |
| 07:47.47 | sedatedChipmunk | with 2x as many per measure |
| 07:47.49 | NightHawkTheSane | 12/8 is a little bit of a pain, but eh, its not that bad. |
| 07:47.52 | sedatedChipmunk | or just listen to the midi |
| 07:48.29 | sedatedChipmunk | the timing of teh opening doesn't really matter, since all the notes are the same length |
| 07:48.35 | sedatedChipmunk | it just looks nicest that way |
| 07:48.39 | Dynom | hhahaaha, ftw! |
| 07:48.49 | Dynom | Reading a howto about how to enable Beryl under KDE |
| 07:48.58 | Dynom | and at the bottom of the howto it says: "There is also a very convenient kommander script, opensuse-xgl-settings, which can automate this process for you." |
| 07:49.07 | Dynom | with an auto-config script -_- |
| 07:49.37 | sedatedChipmunk | monkey island music is fun, too; there's sites that have a bunch of it out there |
| 07:49.40 | sedatedChipmunk | giyf |
| 07:50.07 | ckknight | sedatedChipmunk: too complex for me :-P |
| 07:50.12 | ckknight | also, not my style of music |
| 07:50.25 | ckknight | I like stuff with a more mellow edge |
| 07:50.32 | sedatedChipmunk | wtfever |
| 07:50.37 | sedatedChipmunk | warcraft music rules |
| 07:51.09 | sedatedChipmunk | and wc2 music gets oldskool points |
| 07:51.23 | sedatedChipmunk | the womenz will flock 2 u |
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| 07:57.47 | NightHawkTheSane | well the womenz already flock to him, obviously, so its not like he needs wc2 music to do that |
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| 08:00.47 | ckknight | I really am enjoying playing on the piano, it's a pretty damn good stress reliever |
| 08:00.51 | ckknight | moreso than playing my pally |
| 08:00.55 | ckknight | that feels like a chore |
| 08:01.36 | NightHawkTheSane | playing wow on the whole feels too much like a chore lately. :\ |
| 08:01.52 | ckknight | quite sad |
| 08:01.53 | ckknight | why do we still do it? |
| 08:02.06 | sedatedChipmunk | that's your own darn fault then |
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| 08:02.16 | sedatedChipmunk | people make it feel like a chore |
| 08:02.36 | ckknight | how is it my fault? |
| 08:02.41 | ckknight | or, better, how would I make it not a chore? |
| 08:03.16 | SquishemHard | Its more and more fun the better the players you group with are |
| 08:03.47 | Diao | if you feel like you need to do it |
| 08:03.49 | Diao | it becomes a chore |
| 08:03.51 | NightHawkTheSane | SquishemHard: indeed. sadly apprently everyone i group with lately are raging idiots |
| 08:03.51 | sedatedChipmunk | just enjoy with your friends and forget about grinding or loots and play for the sense of accomplishment; I play with 2 people and we do everything. We do it slower, but it never feels like a chore |
| 08:04.04 | Diao | Same goes for piano actually |
| 08:04.12 | Diao | if someone else is making you practice, it'll feel like a chore |
| 08:04.13 | sedatedChipmunk | because it's my best buddy and my girlfriend |
| 08:04.21 | sedatedChipmunk | and there's no idiots |
| 08:05.17 | NightHawkTheSane | sedatedChipmunk: that's wonderful for you, sadly, my friends are jackasses. |
| 08:05.26 | sedatedChipmunk | lol |
| 08:05.29 | Diao | lol |
| 08:05.37 | Diao | My friends are jackasses but I am the same way to them so it's all in fun ;) |
| 08:05.45 | sedatedChipmunk | then it's your fault for having poor taste in friends |
| 08:05.47 | sedatedChipmunk | >8p |
| 08:06.02 | sedatedChipmunk | anyway |
| 08:06.03 | SquishemHard | My roommate and his fiancee are just friggen slow.. I rerolled a shammy and got him to 70 and they are still like mid 30s |
| 08:06.07 | sedatedChipmunk | i swear i'm going to bed now |
| 08:06.14 | NightHawkTheSane | they're good people, just when it comes to wow, they manage to be the most inconsiderate jerks i know, which is a little depressing |
| 08:07.02 | SquishemHard | gah, im trying to find how to compare the frst part of a string to a setatring but i cant ifnd any quick LUA references |
| 08:07.32 | sedatedChipmunk | wtf is a setatring |
| 08:08.03 | SquishemHard | i meant "set string" or constant string. |
| 08:08.23 | sedatedChipmunk | like some unholy meta-table-string hybrid or something |
| 08:08.49 | SquishemHard | just a string I define in code |
| 08:09.12 | SquishemHard | to see if its in the first part of a string passed to a function |
| 08:09.56 | vhaarr | if str:find(str2) then? |
| 08:10.14 | SquishemHard | ahh, thanks |
| 08:10.14 | sedatedChipmunk | "^"..str2 |
| 08:10.25 | sedatedChipmunk | or string.sub it |
| 08:10.35 | vhaarr | ah, first part, yeah |
| 08:11.01 | SquishemHard | Is there a website that would have that kinda stuff as a quick reference? |
| 08:11.27 | vhaarr | google -> "lua string compare" |
| 08:11.29 | vhaarr | "lua string find" |
| 08:11.33 | vhaarr | "lua strings" |
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| 08:11.41 | vhaarr | .. etc |
| 08:11.45 | SquishemHard | I have a C++, C# and Web Design class this term so I have such a shitttonn of different languages in my head right now |
| 08:13.05 | sedatedChipmunk | PIL is your friend |
| 08:13.22 | sedatedChipmunk | as is the lua reference |
| 08:13.27 | SquishemHard | PIL? |
| 08:13.41 | sedatedChipmunk | The Holy Book |
| 08:13.45 | sedatedChipmunk | www.lua.org/pil |
| 08:13.48 | sedatedChipmunk | required reading |
| 08:13.49 | SquishemHard | ahhh |
| 08:14.19 | NightHawkTheSane | I thought the holy book was The Art of Computer Programming |
| 08:14.25 | SquishemHard | Ill save it for the summer.. my C# book alone is 3x the size of my normal books |
| 08:14.50 | vhaarr | why would a C# book be huge? |
| 08:14.59 | vhaarr | does it cover all the "standard" libraries? |
| 08:15.22 | SquishemHard | Its Pro C# with .NET 3.0! |
| 08:15.26 | vhaarr | "How to fuck up your site using ASP.NET 3.0" |
| 08:15.32 | vhaarr | that's chapter 1-30 |
| 08:15.33 | SquishemHard | maybe only 2 x my normal books but its huge |
| 08:16.05 | vhaarr | NET 3.0, now there's a joke, isn't that like 2.0 with some aero crap stuffed in it? |
| 08:16.09 | NightHawkTheSane | vhaarr: not to mention apendixes A-E |
| 08:16.14 | vhaarr | :P |
| 08:16.24 | SquishemHard | Only 3 of the 31 chapters are ASP |
| 08:16.36 | vhaarr | sounds like a waste of time to me |
| 08:17.18 | SquishemHard | if it was they wouldnt teach it |
| 08:17.40 | vhaarr | C# isn't nearly old enough for a school to make an informed decision regarding that. |
| 08:17.48 | SquishemHard | wow |
| 08:17.59 | SquishemHard | Why would it have to be "old"? |
| 08:18.10 | NightHawkTheSane | would you rather he said "mature" |
| 08:18.43 | SquishemHard | heh, it doesnt have to be |
| 08:18.46 | NightHawkTheSane | Although, honestly, regardless of how old it is, it's rather idiotic of any school to teach such a platform specific language |
| 08:18.55 | sedatedChipmunk | SquishemHard: honestly, it's really short. spend 2h or so reading it before you do any addon writing and you'll save yourself many many hours of trouble later on |
| 08:19.16 | SquishemHard | It kinda shows how little you know |
| 08:19.31 | SquishemHard | C# is actually a platform independent language |
| 08:19.36 | NightHawkTheSane | Unless it's an individual course on a specific language, an entire program shouldn't really be based on languages like that. |
| 08:20.01 | SquishemHard | And thats all im taking C# |
| 08:20.03 | vhaarr | SquishemHard: If you need a fucking 31-chapter book the size of 2 bibles, you're not learning C#, you're learning Microsoft .NET 3.0. |
| 08:20.20 | sedatedChipmunk | lol |
| 08:21.00 | SquishemHard | Which is a huge part of the power of C#.... I dont see a problem with that |
| 08:21.20 | sedatedChipmunk | it's platform independent across 3 platforms |
| 08:21.50 | vhaarr | Any school that teaches that need to either just write a poster saying "We get cash from Microsoft" or reevaluate their language of choice. |
| 08:22.06 | NightHawkTheSane | vhaarr: agreed. |
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| 08:22.12 | sedatedChipmunk | windows vista, windows xp, and windows XTREEM cashmoney system |
| 08:22.39 | vhaarr | lol |
| 08:22.58 | SquishemHard | So my 1 class means all my school teaches is C#? |
| 08:23.23 | SquishemHard | I went through 2 years of C++ classes to meet the prereqs for this class |
| 08:23.39 | vhaarr | if we've been spouting microsoft-bashings on false premises, you should've notified us earlier |
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| 08:23.46 | vhaarr | instead of waiting and smacking us in the face with it |
| 08:24.04 | NightHawkTheSane | you implied it was part of the overal program, and not a language-specific class. |
| 08:24.14 | SquishemHard | where? |
| 08:24.18 | sedatedChipmunk | aw man |
| 08:24.23 | sedatedChipmunk | now the birds are chirping =\ |
| 08:24.38 | ZealotOnAStick | squawk at them like an angry squirrel. |
| 08:24.51 | SquishemHard | The first thing I said was that I was taking a C++, C# and Web design classes |
| 08:25.03 | vhaarr | put on good old-fashioned stove popcorn and open the window |
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| 08:25.14 | vhaarr | that should scare them away |
| 08:25.35 | sedatedChipmunk | i'm goin' bed; please hold the ms bashing session until i get back |
| 08:25.55 | SquishemHard | MY school teaches the fbasics using C++, but also teaches many different languages with value |
| 08:26.03 | vhaarr | SquishemHard: jeez, we just wanted to do some early-morning microsoft bashing, it's nothing personal |
| 08:26.18 | vhaarr | let us have our fun :( |
| 08:26.35 | NightHawkTheSane | well, i was also hoping for some good old fashioned college bashing as well, but yeah, more or less :) |
| 08:28.58 | SquishemHard | It just ticks me off when people bash something and show thhey know little to nothing about it |
| 08:29.06 | vhaarr | Yeah, we did that. |
| 08:29.13 | vhaarr | Showed we know nothing about it. |
| 08:29.20 | Fisker- | http://english.chosun.com/w21data/html/news/200704/200704260026.html <-awesome! |
| 08:30.34 | SquishemHard | Welll if you think .NET is so horrible you obvisouly have never used it. It has some downsides but far more benefits. |
| 08:30.47 | vhaarr | Who said it was horrible? |
| 08:31.20 | SquishemHard | How you were talking earlier did |
| 08:31.37 | vhaarr | I bet you're US american, those guys always read what they want to read. |
| 08:31.45 | ckknight | .NET is a pretty nice framework |
| 08:31.46 | ckknight | woo, America! |
| 08:31.48 | ZealotOnAStick | Hey now! |
| 08:31.50 | vhaarr | haha |
| 08:32.23 | SquishemHard | And... |
| 08:32.28 | ZealotOnAStick | ck doesn't count, he's apparently Hawanadian. |
| 08:32.29 | NightHawkTheSane | I'm actually not a fan of .NET, but that's mostly because I dislike MS not really making it cross platform from the start |
| 08:32.37 | ckknight | hey, I got my citizenship |
| 08:32.56 | vhaarr | ckknight: I heard the legal age is 14 in Hawaii, btw, is this true? |
| 08:33.03 | vhaarr | you know, for .. stuff. |
| 08:33.09 | ckknight | quite true. |
| 08:33.13 | ckknight | age of consent at 14 |
| 08:33.13 | vhaarr | zomg |
| 08:33.22 | ckknight | unless they upped it recently... |
| 08:33.24 | ckknight | lemme check |
| 08:33.26 | ckknight | they might've |
| 08:33.37 | ckknight | I recently was tricked into dating a 16-year-old and it was brought up |
| 08:33.44 | SquishemHard | thats not creepy at all... |
| 08:33.48 | ZealotOnAStick | Tricked? |
| 08:33.56 | vhaarr | she said she was 14 |
| 08:33.57 | ckknight | she said she was 18 |
| 08:33.59 | vhaarr | haha |
| 08:34.01 | ckknight | turns out she was 16 |
| 08:34.14 | ckknight | ugh. |
| 08:34.14 | ckknight | and going through all that teenage stuff |
| 08:34.20 | ckknight | I don't like dating younger women, honestly |
| 08:34.23 | theoddone33 | I heard south carolina also has a very low age of consent |
| 08:34.27 | ckknight | I prefer em to be a year or two older |
| 08:34.49 | ZealotOnAStick | you know, the term "younger women" for your age has debatable validity. |
| 08:35.10 | SquishemHard | a year or 2 older than 14 or you? :P |
| 08:35.46 | NightHawkTheSane | zing. |
| 08:36.10 | vhaarr | first you say it's creepy, then you try jumping in with witty remarks, what is this? |
| 08:36.27 | ckknight | okay, vhaarr: http://www.moraloutrage.net/staticpages/index.php?page=Hawaii |
| 08:36.28 | SquishemHard | Its still creepy |
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| 08:36.39 | ckknight | SquishemHard: older than me |
| 08:36.42 | SquishemHard | I just have a sense of humor :( |
| 08:36.46 | theoddone33 | moraloutrage.net, nice |
| 08:36.47 | ckknight | I'm 19 right now |
| 08:36.47 | ZealotOnAStick | I tried to book tickets for hawaii in the off-season, but they apparently don't have predictions nor discounts for hurricanes and volcanic eruptions. |
| 08:37.07 | ZealotOnAStick | it's creepy, and he's turned on by creepy. Very evident. |
| 08:37.09 | ckknight | ZealotOnAStick: you can go to the Big Island and hang out for a while |
| 08:37.28 | NightHawkTheSane | ckknight: so, technically, 15 is okay, but 14 isnt? |
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| 08:37.40 | vhaarr | "Continuous sexual assault of a minor under the age of fourteen years." |
| 08:37.46 | SquishemHard | Instead of Hawaii a few years ago we went to Fiji.... wow talk about mistake |
| 08:38.02 | ckknight | NightHawkTheSane: 14-15 is okay if they're married or within 5 years of age |
| 08:38.14 | ckknight | so I could fuck a 14-year-old legally |
| 08:38.18 | ckknight | since I'm 19 now |
| 08:38.39 | NightHawkTheSane | well it says "less than", i guess thats the programmer in me interpreting that sentence |
| 08:39.14 | SquishemHard | I would throw an exception at 14 just to be on the safe side |
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| 08:42.00 | NightHawkTheSane | hmm, ramen. |
| 08:43.00 | ckknight | done practicing for today. |
| 08:43.00 | vhaarr | '"Community standards" means the standards of the State.' -- talk about totalitarian government. |
| 08:43.17 | ckknight | state ≠federal |
| 08:43.26 | ckknight | at least. |
| 08:43.45 | vhaarr | 'Minor" means any person less than eighteen years old.' |
| 08:43.57 | ckknight | age of majority is reached at 18, yes |
| 08:44.04 | vhaarr | in the sense of child pornography or child abuse, it seems |
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| 08:44.54 | vhaarr | that's pretty sick, though, getting married at 14 |
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| 08:46.16 | theoddone33 | it's a bad idea but I wouldn't call it sick if you're within a couple years |
| 08:46.32 | theoddone33 | I bet it was the normal age for a good number of cultures throughout history |
| 08:46.33 | ckknight | right |
| 08:46.40 | vhaarr | yeah, sorry, I didn't mean "sick" as in it-makes-me-puke, I mean "sick" as in "insane" |
| 08:46.47 | theoddone33 | roger |
| 08:47.27 | NightHawkTheSane | theoddone33: yeah, its probably older laws heldover just because |
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| 08:48.33 | vhaarr | in my book, when you're 14, you're naive by default, so getting married is the last thing you should do |
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| 08:48.57 | theoddone33 | ask any 14 year old, they know everything |
| 08:49.14 | vhaarr | indeed, and so did we :) |
| 08:49.22 | vhaarr | heck, we know everything now |
| 08:49.27 | vhaarr | but now we're older, so we're allowed to |
| 08:50.12 | NightHawkTheSane | speak for yourself, i never knew anything, and i still don't. |
| 08:50.50 | theoddone33 | yeah the older I get, the less I know |
| 08:50.57 | theoddone33 | both in a philosophical sense and a practical sense |
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| 09:10.04 | binder | ~~man |
| 09:10.44 | binder | you guys ever done mana-tombs on heroic? |
| 09:10.44 | ZealotOnAStick | Yeah. |
| 09:10.44 | binder | did you finish? |
| 09:10.44 | ZealotOnAStick | Final boss is kind of a bitch. |
| 09:10.44 | binder | lol yea |
| 09:10.50 | binder | it's prot warrior, holy priest, fire mage, enh shaman and ele shaman |
| 09:10.55 | binder | and we're getting wrecked |
| 09:11.19 | ZealotOnAStick | Well, the first time we did it, we sort of cheaped it. |
| 09:11.26 | ZealotOnAStick | Burned him the hell down, then died. |
| 09:11.44 | ZealotOnAStick | Ressed, had the druid pull aggro and sprint off, we ran and looted the corpse and hearthed. |
| 09:11.53 | FISKER_Q | usual heroic end-boss tactics :P |
| 09:11.58 | ZealotOnAStick | dash, whatever. |
| 09:12.17 | ZealotOnAStick | Well, we've had a few groups in the guild do it "the right way" since then. |
| 09:12.45 | ZealotOnAStick | I just have almost no motivation to go back on heroic. The only thing I want from there is an enchant that drops in normal as well. |
| 09:14.35 | Wobin | oh man, ckknight you actually used the single character of 'not equals to' =P |
| 09:14.46 | ckknight | ? |
| 09:14.50 | ckknight | hrm? |
| 09:14.52 | binder | what enchant? |
| 09:14.56 | binder | you mean major frost prot? |
| 09:14.57 | Wobin | <ckknight> state ≠federal |
| 09:15.02 | ckknight | oh, yea |
| 09:15.06 | ckknight | I have a mac |
| 09:15.12 | ckknight | option-= gives ≠|
| 09:15.21 | ckknight | so I see no reason not to use it |
| 09:15.23 | Wobin | bizarre =) |
| 09:15.48 | xyu` | craziness |
| 09:15.52 | ckknight | ≤≥ |
| 09:16.03 | ckknight | ÷ |
| 09:16.08 | xyu` | i'm surprised mIRC even displays it :D |
| 09:16.12 | ckknight | ± |
| 09:16.31 | Diao | no |
| 09:16.37 | Diao | mana tombs is fortitude for boots |
| 09:16.39 | Diao | +12 stam |
| 09:17.14 | ckknight | √pants |
| 09:18.16 | ZealotOnAStick | Yes, off the blasted ethereal priests. |
| 09:19.08 | ckknight | √(-1) = i |
| 09:19.58 | theoddone33 | wow it really dos |
| 09:19.59 | theoddone33 | does |
| 09:20.15 | theoddone33 | there are loads of crazy characters at my disposal and I didn't even know it |
| 09:20.34 | Bam__ | fl°ª†|
| 09:20.55 | theoddone33 | I lost a roll on +12 stam to boots my first mana tombs run |
| 09:20.59 | theoddone33 | kind of sad |
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| 10:01.22 | FISKER_Q | on |
| 10:01.31 | FISKER_Q | ≠|
| 10:01.34 | FISKER_Q | awesome |
| 10:03.01 | [Ammo] | morning girls |
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| 10:13.59 | abyssichate | they finally nerfed shadoweave set |
| 10:18.12 | Nickenyfiken | :-) |
| 10:20.13 | Matrix110 | its sad they need to nerf it instead of buffing raid items |
| 10:20.36 | Nickenyfiken | Well they didn't nerf all non raid epix |
| 10:20.45 | Nickenyfiken | So i guess it was to better balance them? |
| 10:20.56 | abyssichate | they buffed raid items |
| 10:21.00 | abyssichate | tier5 was buffed |
| 10:21.07 | Matrix110 | T5 is still crap:P |
| 10:21.15 | abyssichate | It's ok that tier4 and shadoweave are on par |
| 10:21.17 | Matrix110 | its not worth to be called T5 |
| 10:21.30 | abyssichate | well, some pieces are valuable |
| 10:21.48 | Matrix110 | T6 is a joke aswell if the bosses are considered harder than The Eye/SSC/Hyjal |
| 10:22.16 | abyssichate | Still it's better than anything we are wearing at the moment |
| 10:22.24 | abyssichate | were you expecting +43093490dmg on each piece or? |
| 10:22.27 | Matrix110 | Most of the Items atleast for casters are total bullshit from the raid instances |
| 10:22.38 | Matrix110 | no iam not but they could be atleast better than C'thun items |
| 10:22.41 | abyssichate | T6 looks pretty okish to me instead, at least warlock one |
| 10:23.13 | Matrix110 | My opinion is based on the upgrade T1->T2->T2.5->T3 |
| 10:23.31 | Matrix110 | and T4->T5->T6 is a joke |
| 10:23.55 | abyssichate | It has got +hit on each piece but the robe and a lot of +dmg. |
| 10:24.08 | abyssichate | T4 is a joke itself but on the other hand it's pretty easy to obtain |
| 10:25.18 | Matrix110 | biggest jokes are Necklaces for casters anyway in TBC |
| 10:25.27 | abyssichate | and you get at least more than 10 +dmg (warlock sets) per piece in the t5t6 transition |
| 10:25.42 | abyssichate | shadow pendant from karazhan > * :x |
| 10:26.16 | Matrix110 | The neck from prince is a good necklace in TBC but its not really better than the AQ Necklace when you were 60 which is a joke.. |
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| 10:27.43 | abyssichate | it's got much more stats though |
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| 10:28.30 | Matrix110 | i rather have more crit or dmg on it than stats:P |
| 10:28.39 | Matrix110 | i dont need more than 7,5k unbuffed as a mage tbh |
| 10:29.32 | Matrix110 | And the Set bonuses on the mage T5 i dont even want to talk about... |
| 10:29.52 | Matrix110 | T5 is basically worthless compared to random items |
| 10:30.25 | Matrix110 | The only part worth getting might be the head because there arent good random items with meta slot |
| 10:31.00 | Wobin | oh vhaarr... You're a <superior weaponsmith>! |
| 10:31.10 | Wobin | with extra vowels |
| 10:31.25 | Wobin | So perhaps a <Superiour Weaponsmith> |
| 10:31.39 | NightHawkTheSane | thats only one extra vowel |
| 10:31.50 | NightHawkTheSane | "Superiour Weapounsmithe" |
| 10:31.51 | Wobin | well, Vharr only has one less vowel |
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| 11:06.33 | Sole | is Yata any good? |
| 11:07.52 | [dRaCo] | yeah |
| 11:08.06 | [dRaCo] | wouldn't wanna play without it |
| 11:08.58 | [dRaCo] | gotwood is just a timer, isnt it? |
| 11:09.14 | [dRaCo] | yata also provides customisable bars for your totems |
| 11:09.29 | harl|WoW | i think gotwood uses candybars or something |
| 11:09.37 | [dRaCo] | yeah, prolly |
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| 11:10.19 | harl|WoW | all i really need is actually the timer though. |
| 11:10.41 | Vangual | gotwood can use different displays for the timers |
| 11:11.02 | harl|WoW | yes. that's why i don't use the candybar-thing for gotwood |
| 11:11.11 | harl|WoW | just the icons with the timer beneath it |
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| 11:11.21 | harl|WoW | them |
| 11:11.21 | Vangual | gotta try yata again, last time i used it it was a but bare |
| 11:11.31 | Vangual | bit* |
| 11:11.49 | harl|WoW | how can i get PerformanceFu to show information like Warmup does ? |
| 11:12.22 | CIA-31 | 03evilelvis * r34180 10eePanels/ (core.lua guidePanel.lua localization.enUS.lua): eePanels: added ability to set a panel's parent frame |
| 11:12.25 | Vangual | tooltip -> show addon usage, and be on PTR :) |
| 11:12.26 | JoshBorke | by installing WarmUp |
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| 11:14.19 | harl|WoW | Vangual: Warmup shows the time each single add-on needs to load and what its initial memory footprint is. i guess i can't do that with PerformanceFu then. |
| 11:14.42 | Vangual | ah, no. |
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| 11:22.04 | sbu | morning :) |
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| 11:27.22 | binder | I don't get it at all |
| 11:27.36 | binder | the EU forums are all smart and people doing theorycrafting and stuff |
| 11:27.48 | binder | and US forums get threads like this one that a blue even posts in: |
| 11:27.50 | binder | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=98746526&sid=1 |
| 11:28.17 | binder | wtb EU copy of WoW |
| 11:28.25 | Bibi | wtb your US copy of WoW |
| 11:28.52 | binder | do you need to install from US or just have an activated account? |
| 11:28.53 | Sole | ok so Im gonna play another class for 5v5 arena |
| 11:28.59 | Sole | shaman or warrior? |
| 11:29.05 | binder | warrior |
| 11:29.08 | Bibi | hunter. |
| 11:29.10 | binder | shaman |
| 11:29.10 | Sole | would like to hear your guys opinions, Ive already made up my mind |
| 11:29.20 | binder | shaman are the worst class in the game |
| 11:29.23 | binder | esp in pvp |
| 11:29.39 | Sole | and you decide this how? |
| 11:29.40 | Bibi | well, dwarves can't be shaman (yet) |
| 11:29.54 | Bibi | and dwarves > * |
| 11:30.03 | Bibi | therefore, * > shaman. |
| 11:30.05 | binder | I've played an MS warrior with a shaman sidekick for a bit over 2 years |
| 11:30.28 | binder | so I've watched everyone else get buffs and shaman were left behind |
| 11:30.32 | binder | and now horde has paladins |
| 11:30.48 | binder | don't get me wrong, I love shaman, I'm going to miss them |
| 11:30.56 | binder | but theyr'e really screwed |
| 11:31.06 | Bibi | and dwarves can't be shaman |
| 11:31.07 | binder | no cc, no anti-cc (don't even say tremor) |
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| 11:31.08 | CIA-31 | DrDamage: |
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| 11:31.17 | Sole | its how I feel about my rogue atm |
| 11:31.24 | Sole | been playing since launch |
| 11:31.26 | Bibi | no CC on a rogue ? |
| 11:31.27 | Bibi | wtf. |
| 11:31.29 | Sole | but for 5v5 arena..its just tough |
| 11:31.32 | Sole | not talking about CC |
| 11:31.50 | binder | dagger isn't viable right now with itemization |
| 11:31.57 | binder | so rogue on a pvp team kinda sucks |
| 11:31.59 | Sole | talking about the lack of role the rogue has in 5v5 |
| 11:32.02 | Bibi | get fang of vashj ! |
| 11:32.15 | binder | however I do play my rogue with my 61 resto shaman friend |
| 11:32.19 | Bibi | (but actually, yes, rogue sucks atm :/) |
| 11:32.20 | binder | and we do above average |
| 11:32.29 | binder | i think rogue is just fine in pvp |
| 11:32.38 | Sole | theyre fine |
| 11:32.39 | Bibi | it's a great 1vs1 class, but 5vs5 is a problem |
| 11:32.42 | binder | then again my rogue is a bloodelf, and the racial is OP |
| 11:32.54 | Sole | but when you compare but what we bring to a 5v5 team to say..a warrior or a hunter |
| 11:32.59 | Sole | they just do what we do better |
| 11:33.09 | binder | naw |
| 11:33.13 | Sole | because we dont really have much room to use our sneaky shit in 5v5 |
| 11:33.14 | binder | rogues can throw people off |
| 11:33.21 | Sole | silencing shot :P |
| 11:33.29 | binder | yea but they dont' know if you're a rogue, druid or mage |
| 11:33.38 | binder | get like 2k attack power |
| 11:33.42 | binder | and 30% crit |
| 11:33.52 | binder | and get a big fat dagger and suicide ambush :P |
| 11:34.09 | binder | go in with thsoe stats and about 5k health |
| 11:34.17 | Sole | because those stats are achieavable :P |
| 11:34.18 | binder | the pom pyro of rogue |
| 11:34.24 | sbu | Sole: grp detection working? ;) |
| 11:34.32 | Sole | sbu: hur? |
| 11:34.36 | binder | you could get 30% crit and 2k attack power |
| 11:34.39 | sbu | Sole: gladiator |
| 11:34.43 | binder | if you gave up stam |
| 11:34.51 | Sole | mmh |
| 11:34.54 | binder | with very little invested in epics |
| 11:34.55 | Sole | maybe not 2k |
| 11:35.22 | Sole | sbu: I guessed its about glad, which aspect of group detection are you talking about though? |
| 11:35.29 | binder | you can get green leggings with like 110 attack power on them |
| 11:35.38 | binder | and you can add a leg patch to those |
| 11:36.02 | binder | it's like the old "of fiery wrath" mages |
| 11:36.15 | sbu | Sole: uhm - "see 1 player -> get list with possible other players" |
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| 11:36.53 | Sole | sbu: oh that, no not yet |
| 11:36.55 | binder | oh yea, mind numbing and wound poison are huge benefits of rogues, esp the fact they're not removable right now |
| 11:37.00 | Sole | sbu: havent really worked on glad recently |
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| 11:37.22 | Sole | mortal strike > wound |
| 11:42.51 | Punkie` | Man, that murloc thread is hilarious :D |
| 11:52.04 | Fisker- | lolwut |
| 11:52.08 | Fisker- | fucking best movie ever |
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| 11:57.35 | Punkie` | Fisker-: which?!/1 |
| 11:58.57 | Fisker- | Hot Fuzz |
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| 12:07.07 | Neebler | http://www.camk.edu.pl/~akr/Fujifromafar.jpg |
| 12:07.26 | Liocer | that was random |
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| 12:09.02 | Neebler | roartindonnnnn! <3 |
| 12:09.39 | Roartindon | Hi Neebler |
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| 12:11.30 | Roartindon | hmm.. my damn PTR downloaded refuses to download the final 2% |
| 12:13.42 | kenlyric | this is not the PTR you are looking for. |
| 12:14.05 | kebinusan | Thats what I keep telling myself |
| 12:14.32 | kebinusan | I got past the phase where I was hoping the alchemy changes were some sick april fools joke |
| 12:14.50 | kenlyric | unless your guild is already plowing through at least the latter part of SSC, it'll make you sad and wistful. |
| 12:14.54 | Roartindon | I'm kind of glad they made the alchemy changes |
| 12:15.02 | Roartindon | Was sick of farming for hours and hours each week to raid Naxx |
| 12:15.03 | Fisker- | Roartindon the first ptr patch? |
| 12:15.14 | Fisker- | aka 2.0.12->0.1.whatever? |
| 12:15.27 | Roartindon | Fisker-: Nah, I just finished getting 0.1.0.6607->0.1.0.6624 |
| 12:15.35 | Fisker- | ok |
| 12:15.37 | Punkie` | Oh yeah Fisker-, Hot Fuzz is liek the best movie evar |
| 12:15.39 | Roartindon | Updated sometime within the last 24 hours |
| 12:15.40 | Fisker- | just had a similar freeze |
| 12:15.51 | Fisker- | with the 2.0.12 patch |
| 12:15.52 | kebinusan | Our Guild bank accepts donations from members and in turn fills all potion/elixir needs for members.. and it works just fine for us.. honestly I wish they had just increased the number of herb drops per node |
| 12:15.57 | Fisker- | indeed Punkie` |
| 12:16.02 | Fisker- | bitches get kicked in the face |
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| 12:16.18 | kebinusan | With 2.1 though most alchemy potions are rendered completely useless because of the ability to only have one offensive and defensive elixir active at a time |
| 12:16.41 | Roartindon | kebinusan: It seems to change the logic to: if you ahve something on farm, use a potion, if you don't, use a flask |
| 12:16.58 | kebinusan | Roartindon: I agree |
| 12:17.04 | kenlyric | blizzard says that's how they always intended it. |
| 12:17.05 | Roartindon | And then you're limited in the amount of expenditure you can have on consumables when doing encounters |
| 12:17.24 | kenlyric | but, of course, people didn't do it that way, so they started tuning encounters around everyone being flasked and potted. |
| 12:17.41 | kenlyric | blizzard is always always very very dumb about what people will do :) |
| 12:17.52 | Roartindon | kenlyric: Yeah, Our first patchwerk kill, every single caster had a flask, every tank had a flask, there were stam food and grog stam buffs |
| 12:17.55 | Roartindon | then potions |
| 12:17.58 | Roartindon | etc. etc. |
| 12:18.08 | Jagobah | Now Blizzard is admitting that you need consumables and is limiting how many you can use |
| 12:18.12 | Roartindon | Just because it made up for our lack of decent gear |
| 12:18.19 | kenlyric | I'm tempted to use them even when I'm not sure they're needed, just to make things easier. I'm an addict. |
| 12:18.27 | kebinusan | They are pretty much completely destroying alchemy though |
| 12:18.29 | kebinusan | imo |
| 12:18.36 | Roartindon | kebinusan: I think alchemy will be important |
| 12:18.41 | [Ammo] | it's still important |
| 12:18.44 | Roartindon | Not just to the stage that every other guild member is a herbalist |
| 12:18.45 | kenlyric | alchemy will be more important. |
| 12:18.52 | [Ammo] | it's now nolonger 100x more useful than engineering |
| 12:18.55 | [Ammo] | but a mere 50x |
| 12:18.59 | Jagobah | Tanks still need ironshields |
| 12:19.07 | kebinusan | 500 health from a flask is hardly anything thats going to make or break an encounter |
| 12:19.16 | kebinusan | they've trivalized the profession |
| 12:19.26 | [Ammo] | no they haven't |
| 12:19.28 | Roartindon | kebinusan: 500 health could still mean the difference between alive and ded |
| 12:19.32 | [Ammo] | they have done exactly what they've always done |
| 12:19.34 | Fisker- | We didn't make it to patchwerk, but we never enforced flasks on people |
| 12:19.37 | [Ammo] | make it so more people can enjoy the content |
| 12:19.47 | [Ammo] | which has always been blizzard's goal |
| 12:19.56 | kenlyric | why is it every nerf manages to trivialize something? so, you'll no longer be 90% of the realm economy. Boo hoo. |
| 12:20.39 | kebinusan | kenlyric: so 90% of recipes are completely useless just like every other profession now |
| 12:20.44 | [Ammo] | good |
| 12:20.56 | kenlyric | as a former alchemist, I remember how completely absolutely useful it was over every other single profession. Now they've balanced that out some so you actually have a decent choice. |
| 12:21.38 | kebinusan | Instead of addressing the problem of people needing to farm so much by increasing herb drobs, maybe putting ancient lichen outside of instances, or even making elixirs last through death, all of which would have allowed content to be more accessable, I think they took the worst possible path |
| 12:22.05 | [Ammo] | makign the herb drops larger won't help much |
| 12:22.21 | [Ammo] | the same people will still scour the areas farming them |
| 12:22.28 | [Ammo] | they'll just get more bang for the buck |
| 12:22.33 | kenlyric | ninjapick from above! |
| 12:22.40 | kebinusan | Not to mention that herb prices are completely out of controlb ecause of the whack ass discovery system and potion/elixir prices were already in the toilet |
| 12:23.06 | kebinusan | More drops = less demand = lower prices |
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| 12:23.24 | kenlyric | yeah, that's another thing they never expected. How stupid people would be with the discovery system. |
| 12:23.25 | [Ammo] | no more drops = same people get more herbs = same prices, just more |
| 12:23.32 | kenlyric | "I'll 1000 potions... that'll work!" |
| 12:23.43 | kenlyric | errr, *make |
| 12:23.56 | kebinusan | kenlyric: blame blizzard for somehow thinking a completely random discovery system was a good idea especially when encounters are tuned around things like the new flasks |
| 12:24.11 | kenlyric | they simultaneously drive up the costs of herbs and flood the market with potions. It's brilliant! :) |
| 12:24.12 | Fisker- | you're missing the big picture |
| 12:24.22 | kebinusan | kenlyric: yep |
| 12:24.26 | [Ammo] | kebinusan: excellent! |
| 12:24.28 | PHL-Chuck | patch today? |
| 12:24.29 | [Ammo] | cheap pots for me |
| 12:24.30 | Fisker- | Obviously the discovery system was made so i can extort high-end guild for crafting fees because i'm fucking lucky? |
| 12:24.50 | kebinusan | There is still no one on my realm with the fortification flask |
| 12:25.02 | [Ammo] | ouch |
| 12:29.46 | kebinusan | Yeah. |
| 12:29.48 | kenlyric | we only have one guild in SSC, so it's not really an issue. |
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| 12:29.49 | Liocer | well theyre changing the discoveries thing arent they |
| 12:29.49 | [Ammo] | they're currently suspended |
| 12:29.49 | [Ammo] | no discoveries can be made |
| 12:29.49 | [Ammo] | unless tehy turned em on again |
| 12:29.49 | kenlyric | I want to know what the exploit was :) |
| 12:29.49 | [Ammo] | easy |
| 12:29.49 | Liocer | not till patch |
| 12:29.49 | [Ammo] | bags full |
| 12:29.49 | Fisker- | bags full |
| 12:29.50 | Fisker- | ^^ |
| 12:29.50 | kebinusan | Eh, Im hoping they add more self only things for alchemists though since the profession is now on par with others there should be at least some more self benefit out of it |
| 12:29.50 | [Ammo] | make pots with full bags results in no mats used |
| 12:29.50 | kebinusan | yeah bags full |
| 12:29.50 | [Ammo] | but the chance for discovery same |
| 12:29.50 | [Ammo] | now spam make em |
| 12:29.50 | [Ammo] | and you're done |
| 12:29.50 | Liocer | I need to make my new stone actually |
| 12:29.50 | kenlyric | lol |
| 12:29.50 | Liocer | tahts not bad for a healer |
| 12:29.51 | kebinusan | beats the old thing where you could get discovoeries from drinking pots too |
| 12:29.51 | Liocer | lol yeah keb |
| 12:29.51 | Wobin | rofl |
| 12:29.51 | kenlyric | trinkets need to be swappable mid-fight. |
| 12:29.51 | [Ammo] | I think we have most flasks etc in the guild |
| 12:29.51 | [Ammo] | the important ones at least |
| 12:29.51 | [DiE]Celeb | discoveries are the only shit thing that ever happened to alch -_- |
| 12:29.51 | kenlyric | we don't have a single flask in guild, and I'm aware of at least six or seven alchemists. |
| 12:29.51 | Fisker- | I want to plow you |
| 12:29.51 | Fisker- | Wobin |
| 12:29.51 | Wobin | rawr |
| 12:29.51 | Fisker- | flattered? |
| 12:29.52 | kenlyric | I actually dont' know anyone in the game who has discovered a flask. |
| 12:29.52 | Wobin | well |
| 12:29.52 | Liocer | I have |
| 12:29.52 | Wobin | I expect dinner and a movie first |
| 12:29.52 | Fisker- | bah |
| 12:29.53 | kenlyric | I know a guy who knows a guy who has mighty restoration. |
| 12:29.53 | Liocer | shadowfort |
| 12:29.53 | kebinusan | Yeah, Im the guild elixir alch, so I make all of our elixirs and since TBC Ive only discovered one thing.. the potion guy has 2 flasks and super rejuv pot |
| 12:29.53 | kenlyric | Liocer: lollercakes |
| 12:29.54 | Liocer | yeah I know |
| 12:29.54 | Liocer | it's crap |
| 12:29.54 | [DiE]Celeb | arcane fort > shadow! |
| 12:29.54 | Fisker- | Some guy in trade channel knew a guy who has mighty restoration |
| 12:29.54 | kenlyric | mighty restoration is sexy. |
| 12:29.54 | kebinusan | heh |
| 12:29.54 | kenlyric | I am going to miss it. |
| 12:30.56 | kenlyric | mighty restoration flask very nearly makes me as mana efficient as a paladin. |
| 12:30.57 | Iceroth | i just want the alch trinket :p |
| 12:30.58 | kebinusan | They need to change the lotus requirement on supreme power still though |
| 12:30.59 | Liocer | ken what class? |
| 12:31.00 | kenlyric | kebinusan: they're puting black lotus on skinnable mobs, I think. |
| 12:31.00 | kebinusan | oh thats nice then |
| 12:31.00 | Iceroth | those stats are sexy for a druid |
| 12:31.01 | kenlyric | I heard something about htem putting it in outland. |
| 12:31.01 | kenlyric | don't remember exactly. |
| 12:31.03 | kenlyric | Liocer: priest. |
| 12:31.04 | Liocer | ahh |
| 12:31.20 | Liocer | our priests seem to be suffering quite a bit at the moment |
| 12:31.36 | Liocer | or at least theyre moaning a lot :P |
| 12:31.38 | kenlyric | meh, it's a joke anyway. They only have two spells to cast. I'd hate to be that bored. |
| 12:31.51 | Fisker- | bah |
| 12:31.51 | kenlyric | tell them to stop wining and work hardered. |
| 12:31.59 | Fisker- | if only those stupid n00bs had my Quad-core in stock |
| 12:32.00 | Fisker- | I WANT NOW |
| 12:32.00 | kenlyric | *whining |
| 12:32.02 | [Ammo] | tell them to reroll dwarf |
| 12:32.10 | Liocer | I like my druid |
| 12:32.12 | Liocer | :) |
| 12:32.12 | kenlyric | draenei |
| 12:32.23 | [Ammo] | it's what I keep telling our nelfs and humans |
| 12:32.24 | kenlyric | fear ward AND party mana regen AND extra free hot. |
| 12:32.29 | kenlyric | human > * |
| 12:32.36 | [Ammo] | human ftl |
| 12:32.42 | kenlyric | 10% spirit > * |
| 12:32.44 | Liocer | aye |
| 12:32.47 | Wobin | but * includes human |
| 12:33.00 | Neebler | gnomes and trolls should be able to be druids! |
| 12:33.06 | Wobin | so human > human |
| 12:33.27 | Liocer | && * |
| 12:33.28 | Wobin | Neebler: only if they become garden gnomes |
| 12:33.31 | Liocer | dont forget that |
| 12:33.33 | kebinusan | yeah the 10% spirit is awesome for priests imo |
| 12:33.45 | [Ammo] | fear ward is kinda uberhandy |
| 12:33.51 | kenlyric | and yeah, I imagine technically the draenei mana regen is better than spirit, but A) no draenei when I rerolled and B) spirit whore |
| 12:33.54 | Liocer | I have a dwarf priest too :P |
| 12:33.55 | Liocer | at 60 |
| 12:34.02 | [Ammo] | but at least everyone agrees night elves are the first against the wall when the dun morogh revolution comes |
| 12:34.02 | Wobin | dwarf female priestess |
| 12:34.02 | Liocer | cant be arsed to level him |
| 12:34.08 | Wobin | if only for the flappy pigtails |
| 12:34.10 | Liocer | didnt much like priest endgame |
| 12:34.17 | Liocer | and I love healing |
| 12:34.27 | kenlyric | i can't imagine being any other kind of healer. |
| 12:34.40 | kenlyric | so few buttons to press. Don't you fall asleep? |
| 12:34.46 | Wobin | I can't imagine being a druid healer |
| 12:34.48 | Wobin | omg argo |
| 12:34.49 | Liocer | bet I have more then you :P |
| 12:34.59 | Neebler | "Caverns of Time: Gnomeregan". gogo developers |
| 12:35.07 | kenlyric | Liocer: then you aren't doing it right :) |
| 12:35.11 | CIA-31 | 03daviesh * r34183 10Babble-2.2/Babble-Boss-2.2/Babble-Boss-2.2.lua: |
| 12:35.11 | CIA-31 | Babble-2.2: |
| 12:35.11 | CIA-31 | - Added preliminary CoT: Battle for Mount Hyjal bosses. |
| 12:35.36 | kenlyric | you can only cast like three heals in tree form anyway ;) |
| 12:35.57 | Wobin | treeforms limitations are kinda silly |
| 12:36.02 | Liocer | try it first |
| 12:36.10 | Liocer | I've played priest in endgame |
| 12:36.21 | Liocer | and theres a lot less to do |
| 12:36.22 | kebinusan | You must go back and in time and ensure gnomeregan gets nuked, without this crucial event gnomes would eventually take over the world! |
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| 12:37.09 | Wobin | I could never take gnome history seriously |
| 12:37.13 | Wobin | they're too 'cute' |
| 12:37.23 | Wobin | it's like an airstrike on a smurf village |
| 12:37.37 | kebinusan | but smurfs are commies! |
| 12:37.43 | Wobin | blue commie bastards? |
| 12:38.32 | kenlyric | Shield, renew, flash heal, Gheal, PoM, PoH, Fade, 3 buffs, 3 potential additional talented healing spells, oh, and we even have to heal AFTER we're dead! |
| 12:38.45 | kebinusan | kenlyric: Im amazed how many priests dont get SoR, even if its IMP dying its 5% spirit! |
| 12:38.47 | kenlyric | oh, people yelling at us to put our pathetic dot up. |
| 12:39.07 | kenlyric | imp dying is uber sexy in TBC. |
| 12:39.14 | Liocer | that spirit thing annoys the piss out of me |
| 12:39.14 | kenlyric | and can be used offensively |
| 12:39.39 | kenlyric | out of mana and low on health and everything on cooldown? die, and be useful again. |
| 12:40.20 | Liocer | just annoys me as I cant res straight away |
| 12:40.21 | [DiE]Celeb | just click off hte buff |
| 12:40.21 | kebinusan | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:40.31 | kenlyric | I can't imagine why you would want to rez. |
| 12:40.41 | Liocer | being a druid? |
| 12:40.46 | Liocer | and ressing a dead priest? |
| 12:40.54 | kenlyric | they're not dead. |
| 12:40.59 | Liocer | i'd say that was more important then a few seconds of free healing |
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| 12:41.01 | kenlyric | they're more powerful than you can possibly imagine. |
| 12:41.30 | chutwig | dead holy priests? |
| 12:41.32 | kenlyric | which is why you rez them when they're really dead :) |
| 12:41.51 | Fisker- | AAAAAAAAAAAAAARGGHGGGH |
| 12:41.56 | Fisker- | BLARGH IM DED |
| 12:42.04 | Liocer | im too busy filling in on their healing by that point you dont get a chance |
| 12:42.12 | Liocer | once chance you get is as soon as they die |
| 12:42.15 | Liocer | only* |
| 12:42.18 | kenlyric | huh? how are you filling in? they're still healing. |
| 12:42.23 | chutwig | the best part is when you soulstone them and then they die again |
| 12:42.26 | chutwig | so in the combat log |
| 12:42.29 | chutwig | Holypriest has died. |
| 12:42.31 | kebinusan | The only thing I dislike is its hard to see on grid when a priest dies if they have SoR, so alot of times I dont notice till 10 seconds late |
| 12:42.32 | chutwig | Holypriest has died. |
| 12:42.41 | kenlyric | chutwig, yeah, I've been that before :) |
| 12:42.48 | kenlyric | on our successful shade of aran kill. |
| 12:42.51 | chutwig | if i see a priest with full health i just assume they're in improved death form |
| 12:42.58 | kenlyric | nothing like a frostbolt to the face as soon as you rez. |
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| 12:43.01 | kebinusan | heh, had a priest get a brez during flame wreath |
| 12:43.04 | kebinusan | thats more fun |
| 12:43.07 | kebinusan | boom |
| 12:43.25 | kenlyric | yeah, I waited for flame wreath to be over because I'm not a complete idiot. |
| 12:43.38 | chutwig | yawn |
| 12:43.44 | chutwig | tonight is gruul and mag |
| 12:43.45 | kenlyric | I didn't even turn SoR duringg flame wreath |
| 12:43.49 | chutwig | rest of week is SSC |
| 12:43.50 | Fisker- | i interrupt my heals by moving forward |
| 12:43.55 | chutwig | joy of joys |
| 12:43.55 | kenlyric | chutwig: wtb. |
| 12:44.09 | Fisker- | ya hear me? |
| 12:44.12 | kebinusan | I was doing auch and got a rez, only to have one of those spirits phase in and frostbolt me once |
| 12:44.15 | kenlyric | Fisker-: I just eat it during Flame wreath. |
| 12:44.16 | Fisker- | and i still don't get pwned by flame wreath |
| 12:47.00 | kenlyric | well, it's not moving that triggers it. It's moving and touching the wreath. |
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| 12:47.01 | kenlyric | people who are not directly afflicted by it probably have a better chance of proccing it. |
| 12:47.01 | kebinusan | chutwig: Mag is pretty much killing peoples desire to raid, I think Ive had to cancel four raids this week cause we cant get 25 to logon :-( |
| 12:47.01 | chutwig | we went to illhoof last night but he sacked our MT fucking 3 times |
| 12:47.01 | Fisker- | ^^ |
| 12:47.01 | kenlyric | chutwig: that's always fun. Especially when you only have one tank. |
| 12:47.01 | Liocer | chutwig: patched out :P |
| 12:47.01 | Fisker- | i think magtheridon is fucking awesome |
| 12:47.01 | chutwig | Liocer: i know, but it's not in yet |
| 12:47.01 | Liocer | aye |
| 12:47.02 | chutwig | kebinusan: it's a long fight to learn for average guilds |
| 12:47.02 | kenlyric | kebinusan: we've only been able to get 25 people to log on once. |
| 12:47.02 | kebinusan | chutwig: yeah, looking forward to that change, wtb soulfrost |
| 12:47.02 | Fisker- | If people don't want to raid then you should kick their lootwhoring arses |
| 12:47.02 | chutwig | it took us about 3 weeks |
| 12:47.02 | kenlyric | and we have 40 people keyed. |
| 12:47.02 | kenlyric | and that was just for maulgar, which was a hell of a lot of fun. |
| 12:47.02 | chutwig | our points system takes attendance into account when calculating effective points, which encourages people to show up |
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| 12:47.04 | kebinusan | chutwig: yeah Ive been thinking of modding our eqdkp system to use effective dkp |
| 12:47.04 | chutwig | that's what we do |
| 12:47.04 | chutwig | multiply current total by 30-day attendance percentage for effective |
| 12:47.05 | kebinusan | yah |
| 12:49.00 | chutwig | as long as i stay at the top of the caster list i don't care how it's calculated :3 |
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| 12:49.30 | Funkeh` | hi all |
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| 12:51.14 | chutwig | oh blizzard |
| 12:51.22 | chutwig | thank you for nerfing spellfire and frozen shadoweave |
| 12:52.12 | Funkeh` | hehe |
| 12:52.15 | Funkeh` | in your faces tailors |
| 12:52.30 | Funkeh` | theres a new animation for mongoose |
| 12:53.18 | Iceroth | have they fixed already the 64 bit vista crash? |
| 12:53.35 | Iceroth | (which was introduced in the recent ptr version) |
| 12:53.56 | Fisker- | so it's a new ptr patch or what? |
| 12:54.25 | Iceroth | 26th or so |
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| 12:55.32 | Iceroth | oh, and my personal favourite: "The cat form range bug: No further changes are planned regarding the cat form range bug at this time." |
| 12:55.45 | chutwig | what range bug is this |
| 12:56.02 | Iceroth | cat can't hit shit if the target is moving |
| 12:56.11 | chutwig | goooooooood |
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| 12:56.31 | Iceroth | normal attacks work for the most parts but you have to stick the model's head through your opponents body to be able to get any specials in |
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| 12:56.55 | Iceroth | hunters and mages who are aware of this can abuse it all their liking |
| 12:57.08 | Fisker- | how? |
| 12:57.10 | chutwig | i assure you that i too plan to abuse the hell out of it now |
| 12:57.25 | Iceroth | ok, frost and arcane mages and all hunters |
| 12:57.28 | Amian | gmorning |
| 12:57.29 | Fisker- | ah |
| 12:57.32 | Fisker- | you mean like rogues |
| 12:57.35 | Fisker- | and many other classes |
| 12:57.35 | Amian | abusing what did i miss ^^ ? |
| 12:57.44 | Iceroth | cat form range bug |
| 12:57.56 | chutwig | tailored stuff nerf |
| 12:58.10 | Fisker- | moar liek rogue range bug |
| 12:58.19 | chutwig | i don't know what spellfire was before and after, but frozen shadoweave lost 34 shadow damage and gained 24 int |
| 12:58.56 | Punkie` | Fisker-: the one thing I hate on my rogue in PvP is that I can autoattack someone when running after them, but my specials are out of range :P |
| 12:59.09 | Fisker- | exactly |
| 12:59.09 | chutwig | i hate when i'm at the edge of casting range and can't reach somebody |
| 12:59.27 | chutwig | like i'm running after them mashing coex and even though it indicates i'm in range i'm not as far as the server is concerned |
| 12:59.36 | squid | so what's going on with realms? |
| 12:59.36 | binder | my rogue is sword spec and I always see "EXTRA ATTACK" when I sap |
| 12:59.58 | binder | they're down until 11PST? |
| 12:59.59 | Iceroth | well, rogues got their poisons and stuff, cat has 30% speed increase and it _still_ can't hit shit if someone is running |
| 13:00.16 | binder | they should be healing anyhow |
| 13:00.22 | binder | the range on that is fine |
| 13:00.48 | Punkie` | Iceroth: Yeah I have 8% through talents and I have the same, even in duels when someone doesn't have increased runspeed |
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| 13:03.29 | CIA-31 | 03bom * r34185 10Depot/Depot.toc: |
| 13:03.29 | CIA-31 | Depot: |
| 13:03.29 | CIA-31 | - update .toc |
| 13:04.06 | Iceroth | heh, the best one i've had so far is that i've been well in melee range on my screen when chasing someone - and i got ouf ot combat |
| 13:04.12 | Iceroth | *of |
| 13:04.53 | Punkie` | yeah, it happens |
| 13:05.47 | Stephmw | hmmm, anyone ever come across a reverse dvi kvm switch? |
| 13:06.33 | chutwig | "reverse DVI"? |
| 13:06.49 | Stephmw | 2 keyboards/screens/mouse, 1 pc |
| 13:06.59 | Stephmw | DVI being the video feed |
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| 13:08.06 | Roartindon | err.. just use splitters? |
| 13:08.13 | Roartindon | and a usb hub? |
| 13:09.00 | Stephmw | only DVI splitters I can come up with atm seem to be for DVI-D (for TVs)... nah, the mouse/keyboard I'll just get some PS2/splitters |
| 13:10.25 | Punkie` | Get a graphics card with 2 outputs? |
| 13:11.10 | Stephmw | hrmm and just use doubling? |
| 13:11.20 | Stephmw | (identical view on both monitor that is) |
| 13:11.26 | Stephmw | yeah, that could work |
| 13:11.55 | Punkie` | yep, it would |
| 13:12.23 | Stephmw | essentially, I just want to take over the 2nd box, some of the time, so this 2nd feed would go into a normal kvm |
| 13:13.03 | Punkie` | is it local? |
| 13:13.15 | Stephmw | yeah, but not next to each other |
| 13:13.28 | Punkie` | why don't you RDC then? |
| 13:13.34 | Stephmw | the monitors are back to back ;) |
| 13:13.47 | Stephmw | RDC for wow would be rather slow, no? |
| 13:13.57 | kenlyric | yes, it would. |
| 13:14.01 | Punkie` | yep |
| 13:14.07 | Stephmw | I know VNC blows for this ;) |
| 13:14.08 | Punkie` | it is awful, but you never said that :D# |
| 13:14.17 | Stephmw | hehe |
| 13:14.27 | Stephmw | ok, ok... it also needs to be playable! |
| 13:15.03 | Punkie` | I bet this is for work, your boss comes over 'peep' from the KVM and back to your job :P |
| 13:15.06 | Funkeh` | Punkie` guess what |
| 13:15.22 | Punkie` | DBM has party support too?!?!?1/1/1 |
| 13:15.31 | Funkeh` | lol... |
| 13:15.38 | Stephmw | Punkie`: lol |
| 13:15.55 | Punkie` | I don't know Funkeh`, what! |
| 13:15.59 | Stephmw | Punkie`: really, it's to control the TV card in the 2nd PC, but don't tell anyone |
| 13:16.22 | Funkeh` | im considering microwigs for pre tbc instances |
| 13:16.40 | kenlyric | 1 holy priest, willing to transfer, will even pewpew if required. |
| 13:16.48 | Funkeh` | lol |
| 13:16.51 | kenlyric | anything to keep from personally hunting down guild members and stabbing them. |
| 13:17.08 | kebinusan | kenlyric: hunt down my guild members while you're at it |
| 13:17.09 | Stephmw | kenlyric: can't you do that first, and then transfer? |
| 13:17.10 | kenlyric | add warnings for Van Cleef? |
| 13:17.19 | Punkie` | Need PicoWigs for deadmines |
| 13:18.00 | kenlyric | where would nanowigs come in? |
| 13:18.00 | Punkie` | *** Smite is wielding his mighty hammer! *** |
| 13:18.00 | Funkeh` | *** Cookie casts Bake Cookie *** |
| 13:18.18 | kenlyric | Stephmw: I'm trying to avoid stabbing them. |
| 13:18.35 | Funkeh` | nano wigs? hmm |
| 13:18.46 | Punkie` | NanoWigs should be the deadmines |
| 13:18.51 | Punkie` | PicoWigs for soloing |
| 13:18.54 | Funkeh` | could use that for solo grinding mobs at level 1-10 |
| 13:18.55 | kenlyric | it's one thing to play with less-than-stellar players. It's quite another to play with loot whoring dickwads who PVP during a raid they're needed in. |
| 13:19.03 | Punkie` | *** Gnoll has gone enraged! *** |
| 13:19.07 | Funkeh` | Enraged reaver becomes Enraged |
| 13:19.17 | kenlyric | Hogger runs away in fear. |
| 13:19.36 | kenlyric | I actually don't think he does. |
| 13:19.38 | Fisker- | PEACE THROUGH POWER!Q |
| 13:20.07 | Fisker- | Should i wait 2 days for a Core2 or spend 1000$ more on a quad-core? |
| 13:20.07 | Fisker- | :D |
| 13:20.09 | Punkie` | *** Spider is casting poison bolt! *** |
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| 13:20.18 | Funkeh` | spend 1k |
| 13:20.26 | Fisker- | good idea |
| 13:20.27 | kenlyric | Fisker-: never spend that much on a processor. |
| 13:20.31 | kenlyric | it will drop $500 in a week. |
| 13:20.35 | Stephmw | lol, http://www.wowinsider.com/2006/12/15/interview-with-xzin-the-man-with-ten-arms/ |
| 13:20.41 | Fisker- | already dropped in price |
| 13:20.42 | Funkeh` | what else would you spend it on! |
| 13:20.59 | kenlyric | also, it will suck. |
| 13:21.04 | Punkie` | hookers |
| 13:21.08 | kenlyric | just like you never buy a brand new video card because driver support will suck. |
| 13:21.24 | kebinusan | Warlock soloing heroic slave pens |
| 13:21.27 | kebinusan | impressive |
| 13:21.33 | Funkeh` | heh |
| 13:21.33 | Fisker- | lolwut |
| 13:21.38 | Fisker- | fucking lame |
| 13:21.45 | Stephmw | note to anyone thinking of using a 8xxx-series gfx card on linux... beta nvidia drivers all the way |
| 13:21.46 | kenlyric | SS or it's a pack of lies. |
| 13:21.50 | Funkeh` | i got an x1800xt and still i manage to get 10 fps in SSC i don't get it |
| 13:21.55 | kenlyric | is that "soloing the first pull" or "the whole instance" |
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| 13:22.01 | Fisker- | how is that even possible? |
| 13:22.03 | kebinusan | whole instance |
| 13:22.05 | binder | any clue what green gems vendor for now? |
| 13:22.12 | kebinusan | he does some cool things with mob pathing tricks, sec |
| 13:22.13 | kenlyric | video or it didn't happen |
| 13:22.40 | kebinusan | the torrent took forever, I just uploaded it to google video, quality sucks but http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-8640617637006519726 |
| 13:23.28 | kenlyric | it's gameplay video. quality always sucks. |
| 13:23.30 | Punkie` | Funkeh`: I told you to stop using DBM dammit |
| 13:23.46 | Fisker- | i agree |
| 13:23.48 | Fisker- | lets kill him |
| 13:23.48 | kenlyric | except like one guild that made them in decent resolutions, so you could actually see what was going on. |
| 13:23.50 | sbu | hmmm ckknight - is something wrong w/ combo point display? http://img455.imageshack.us/my.php?image=wowscrnshotcomboiw6.jpg |
| 13:23.58 | Funkeh` | lol Punkie` from what ive seen in dbm i could guarantee you it drops fps in combat situations |
| 13:24.16 | kenlyric | oh, lol, asians. They hack I hear. |
| 13:24.23 | Fisker- | koreans as usual |
| 13:24.25 | Fisker- | ^^ |
| 13:24.29 | kebinusan | yah |
| 13:24.38 | Funkeh` | but still Punkie` my GM uses basically the same mods as me and gets more fps |
| 13:24.45 | Funkeh` | yet hes card is only slightly better |
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| 13:25.24 | Funkeh` | im pretty sure x1800xt is still the shizzle? right? |
| 13:25.30 | kenlyric | you know, that is pretty inventive |
| 13:25.41 | Hjalte | Sometimes when i log in, I see like "2. trade - city: player, player, player, player and so on for some of my channels. What addon does that? |
| 13:25.43 | kenlyric | with the water. |
| 13:25.45 | kebinusan | kenlyric: yeah |
| 13:25.56 | kebinusan | he does some pretty interesting things with mob pathing |
| 13:26.33 | kenlyric | I could do that on my holy priest, only it would take a LOT longer |
| 13:27.14 | sbu | http://img57.imageshack.us/img57/3959/wowscrnshotddxb3.jpg <-- ok, it _is_ broken somehow ;p |
| 13:27.46 | Fisker- | it's exploiting |
| 13:27.49 | Fisker- | lets report him |
| 13:28.06 | kenlyric | not until I can try it! |
| 13:28.11 | Fisker- | get out sbu! |
| 13:30.21 | kenlyric | don't mob levels go up to 70 in heroics? |
| 13:30.23 | sbu | Fisker-: what? :( |
| 13:30.26 | kenlyric | how is he able to run past all those? |
| 13:31.00 | Fisker- | argh my head |
| 13:31.09 | Fisker- | anyone know the difference in Intel P965, G965 and Q965? |
| 13:31.35 | Matrix110 | GQ are not intresting for you:P |
| 13:31.40 | Matrix110 | you want P |
| 13:31.53 | Punkie` | kebinusan: Is that heroic or normal? |
| 13:32.23 | Punkie` | ah i see badge of justice ¬_¬ |
| 13:32.40 | kebinusan | its heroic |
| 13:32.50 | kebinusan | my local copy you can see the mob levels they are 70 |
| 13:33.21 | kebinusan | I didnt realize you could walk past that whole room like that we've always pulled at least 2-3 packs |
| 13:33.52 | Matrix110 | Fisker- you can check the Intel Page for the diffrence but youll see that you dont need to know more than you should get P965 |
| 13:35.49 | Matrix110 | and Fisker- you could wait and get a P30(orso forgot the exact name) the new Chipset from intel which supports Peryn officially etc. |
| 13:36.11 | Fisker- | nah |
| 13:36.31 | Matrix110 | P35 it was |
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| 13:45.44 | Fisker- | http://130.227.119.58/Storage/Discos/69203674-f3e7-4910-8531-4062e17de118/28468/dkbn/633134511501918909.jpg <-guess the trap |
| 13:46.01 | Funkeh` | its a guy.. |
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| 13:48.58 | Stephmw | rmt2: IPoSMS is the solution |
| 13:50.46 | Kinkx | Fisker- : most right one? |
| 13:51.25 | Fisker- | i guess |
| 13:52.06 | Kinkx | Big chin on him/her, looking a bit scary |
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| 13:54.29 | xyu` | wow i so want to go and solo slavepens now |
| 13:54.31 | xyu` | but server is down |
| 13:54.55 | xyu` | and my server gets a lovely extended maintenance |
| 13:55.13 | kebinusan | yeah I was tempted to try that as well, it looked pretty fun |
| 13:55.29 | drin | why is it soloable now? |
| 13:55.41 | xyu` | pathing issues |
| 13:56.06 | Megalon | after rokmar |
| 13:56.20 | drin | is there a link where I can read about it? |
| 13:56.23 | Megalon | there are so many packs just gone |
| 13:56.28 | Megalon | in his vid :x |
| 13:56.37 | kebinusan | Megalon: yeah Im guessing cut out for time |
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| 13:56.46 | Fisker- | moar like cleared by a group |
| 13:56.49 | Megalon | yea |
| 13:56.58 | Megalon | don't think he cleared the packs of 5 |
| 13:57.06 | Megalon | or the pack of 4 with the mindcontroller |
| 13:57.09 | xyu` | still even if it's a free badge of justice or 2 every day. |
| 13:57.33 | xyu` | well i wouldn't say free, you definately earn it :P |
| 13:58.03 | kebinusan | yeah I dunno either, could have been cleared by a group I spose, though I bet you could almost do what you did with quag, probably take a long time and quite a few deaths tho |
| 13:58.04 | Megalon | i think it's a real bad badge / hr rate :P |
| 13:58.42 | xyu` | yes but timezone = no one running heroics |
| 13:58.51 | xyu` | + my |
| 13:58.55 | Megalon | oh |
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| 13:59.15 | kenlyric | punishable offense, though. |
| 13:59.19 | xyu` | so i could do that off server offpeak times. |
| 13:59.21 | xyu` | yep |
| 13:59.35 | xyu` | people might get suspicious if they somehow do a /who slavepens and see 1 warlock |
| 13:59.39 | kebinusan | heh |
| 13:59.41 | xyu` | for 3 hours |
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| 14:00.43 | xyu` | I remember back in the day one would do a /who maraudon and see 7 hunters zoned in at all times of the day |
| 14:01.04 | Megalon | the quagmirran fight |
| 14:01.08 | Megalon | seems to be very exiting :D |
| 14:01.10 | sbu | ew |
| 14:01.17 | sbu | slave pens heroic solo? wtf? |
| 14:01.20 | drin | ./who mage blackrock |
| 14:01.24 | drin | is the new botted instance |
| 14:01.29 | xyu` | ah |
| 14:01.32 | kebinusan | sbu yeah |
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| 14:02.06 | Megalon | hm |
| 14:02.17 | kebinusan | its mostly dot dot dot, exploit mob pathing, dot dot dot, but pretty interesting imo |
| 14:02.58 | Roartindon | Hmm.. latest PTR doesn't show any nameplates for opposite faction players unless they're flagged for pvp |
| 14:03.26 | kebinusan | Roartindon: thats kinda nice I spose |
| 14:03.38 | Roartindon | kebinusan: I'd prefer if they brought back the old "yellow" nameplates for them |
| 14:03.41 | kenlyric | yeah I'd love that. |
| 14:03.43 | Hjalte | Is there any way to change how many (de)buffs on each row in pitbulls aura system? |
| 14:03.46 | kebinusan | yeah same |
| 14:03.48 | kenlyric | They're not enemies unless I can kill them |
| 14:03.53 | Roartindon | I agree |
| 14:04.05 | kenlyric | otherwise, we're just having a dance party in aldor bank. |
| 14:04.06 | Roartindon | I remember gathering outside MC/BWL and all opposite faction non-pvp enabled used to show in yellow |
| 14:04.17 | Roartindon | then the week after patch, we went there.. and were like.. wtf? then realised it was the UI |
| 14:04.46 | kebinusan | Hjalte: doesnt appear to be a way to specify number of rows for buffs/debuffs only limiting their number |
| 14:05.08 | Hjalte | kebinusan, yeah, but by limiting their number i just remove rows or make them smaller. |
| 14:05.33 | Hjalte | Or the other way around, but they seem to be capped at some point and overflow to the next row |
| 14:05.59 | Hjalte | I am guessing it has something to do with how large the frame is that they are bound to, but when they are on the side it doesnt really matter |
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| 14:06.13 | Roartindon | kebinusan: At the same time, the aldor NPCs all show up as red nameplates to me, even tho I can't attack tehm |
| 14:06.44 | kebinusan | you can attack some of them, the tier 5 aldor vendor for example |
| 14:06.58 | kebinusan | but yea |
| 14:07.19 | Roartindon | yeah, but it's odd that they decided to make non-attackable players have no nameplate at all, but still have non-attackable 'hostile' NPCs nameplates show |
| 14:07.50 | Fisker- | THIS ISN'T A GAME OF LOGIC |
| 14:07.56 | kenlyric | the difference between attackable and non-attackable NPCs has always confused me. |
| 14:08.21 | kenlyric | why are there pathing horde guys in ashenvale and STV that I can attack but which do not aggro, but the guy sin SoS do aggro. |
| 14:08.25 | kenlyric | it does not make SENSE |
| 14:08.39 | Fisker- | Read above |
| 14:08.41 | xyu` | isn't the chess event in kara soloable as well? |
| 14:08.51 | Fisker- | yup |
| 14:08.51 | kebinusan | Hjalte: may be the case you could try editing the auraFrame dimensions in the layout you are using |
| 14:08.59 | xyu` | i heard something about soloing the chess event |
| 14:09.03 | kenlyric | xyu`: only if aran is cleared. |
| 14:09.09 | Fisker- | nah |
| 14:09.11 | kebinusan | or you have a couple rogues |
| 14:09.16 | xyu` | why do you need aran to be cleared? |
| 14:09.17 | kenlyric | that's not solo. |
| 14:09.22 | Fisker- | you can solo it as a rogue |
| 14:09.23 | Hjalte | kebinusan, I was thinking the targetframe, focusframe, targettargetframe and so on :) |
| 14:09.27 | Fisker- | or could anyways |
| 14:09.31 | kenlyric | aren't all those arcane protectors able to see through stealth now? |
| 14:09.35 | kebinusan | yeah |
| 14:09.45 | xyu` | you can do the rez in instance haxor |
| 14:09.53 | kebinusan | but you need to clear past the opera event anyway |
| 14:09.55 | xyu` | i remember doing that in MC once :P |
| 14:09.57 | Fisker- | what's that xyu`? |
| 14:10.02 | xyu` | hmm |
| 14:10.05 | xyu` | if i rmeember |
| 14:10.07 | xyu` | it's to die |
| 14:10.09 | xyu` | type /logout |
| 14:10.18 | xyu` | once it gets to 1 second, release spirit and it'll log you off |
| 14:10.18 | Fisker- | and i thought that rogues could lockpick the backdoor |
| 14:10.23 | xyu` | log back in and you'l be a ghost on your corpse |
| 14:10.27 | xyu` | in the instnace |
| 14:10.52 | kenlyric | no, it cannot be lockpicked |
| 14:10.55 | xyu` | might take a while to get there though lol |
| 14:11.01 | xyu` | no it can't be lock but it can be shadowstepped |
| 14:11.03 | xyu` | if your'e a rogue |
| 14:11.20 | Fisker- | thought that was fixed a long time ago though |
| 14:11.27 | kenlyric | you can't do anything without clearing the opera event. |
| 14:11.51 | xyu` | hmm it might have been, but i know rogues can get in the back door by shadow stepping that rat that spawns back there |
| 14:11.56 | kenlyric | I mean, you could remove the door with a hack I guess. |
| 14:12.16 | Fisker- | can't you just stealth there from the front entrance anyways? |
| 14:12.28 | Punkie` | Fisker-: no |
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| 14:13.03 | kenlyric | opera is the bottleneck. |
| 14:13.03 | Punkie` | anyway, once you get past the back door you exploit terrain and go under the map etc so you can get into the chess room |
| 14:13.39 | Fisker- | I think i saw someone jump directly into the chess event once |
| 14:13.40 | xyu` | that instance rez still works i'm pretty sure |
| 14:13.48 | Fisker- | from "outside" karazhan |
| 14:14.10 | Punkie` | Fisker-: yeah |
| 14:14.22 | Punkie` | it's still inside the instance |
| 14:14.43 | Fisker- | ^^ |
| 14:14.50 | Punkie` | but the instance still has some outside terrain |
| 14:15.12 | Fisker- | ^^ |
| 14:15.15 | Fisker- | a lot actually |
| 14:15.29 | xyu` | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xG_x9813gx8 |
| 14:15.31 | Fisker- | you can also jump down to some stv clone from the area before chess event and netherspite |
| 14:15.33 | xyu` | i didn't know about this ; ; |
| 14:15.39 | xyu` | i bet rogues use that to me all the time |
| 14:15.44 | xyu` | i always go on that pillar |
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| 14:18.25 | Saroz | SimpleCombatLog: |
| 14:18.25 | Saroz | - Replaced RosterLib with internal code. |
| 14:18.26 | Saroz | UHHH |
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| 14:20.06 | [Ammo] | the code is in RaidUnits.lua |
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| 14:20.45 | Punkie` | Is it a good change? |
| 14:21.02 | Saroz | someone explain pairs() vs. ipairs() |
| 14:21.21 | Tornhoof | ipairs only works with consecutive integer indexes |
| 14:21.21 | [Ammo] | ipairs is number table iteration |
| 14:21.25 | Tornhoof | like 0,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8 |
| 14:21.29 | [Ammo] | what tornhoof says :) |
| 14:21.36 | Tornhoof | (starting from one though) |
| 14:21.41 | Saroz | ehhhhh |
| 14:21.53 | Tornhoof | it won't iterate correctly if you have 1,2,3,5,9,12 |
| 14:21.55 | [Ammo] | basically if you use table.insert() and table.remove() always you can use ipairs to loop it |
| 14:21.57 | Saroz | ah |
| 14:22.56 | Tornhoof | and with insert()/remove() you can easily get the length of the table too |
| 14:23.03 | Tornhoof | if you use that |
| 14:23.17 | Tornhoof | since it only returns the correct value on consecutive integer indexes |
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| 14:24.42 | CIA-31 | ag_UnitFrames |
| 14:24.43 | CIA-31 | <PROTECTED> |
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| 14:25.04 | CIA-31 | 03roartindon * r34187 10Aloft/ (9 files in 3 dirs): (log message trimmed) |
| 14:25.04 | CIA-31 | Aloft |
| 14:25.04 | CIA-31 | - Unavailable data is now eliminated from the UpdateData list. eg. If you are not in a group, then the name->unitid determination is never attempted |
| 14:25.04 | CIA-31 | - Unavailable data is propagated. eg. if unitid is unavailable, then mana is also removed from the update list |
| 14:25.05 | CIA-31 | - Split HealthData into a separate core module. MobHealth3 is no longer looked up if the Health Text is disabled, set to Percent, Group Health or Group Health Deficit. |
| 14:25.08 | CIA-31 | - Tags can specify events that they override. |
| 14:25.10 | CIA-31 | - ManaBar module now disables gracefully |
| 14:25.10 | xyu` | hmm is there any way to change the loot animations now a days? I remember back in the day i had the loot animation as the resurrection light coming down from the sky. |
| 14:25.27 | xyu` | are there still patch-4's or whatever out there that will change that animation? |
| 14:25.37 | Fisker- | no and yes |
| 14:25.55 | Wobin | wow |
| 14:26.00 | Wobin | That was a cool movie |
| 14:26.05 | Fisker- | You have to hack WoW to disable the signature check and allow other mpq's |
| 14:26.13 | xyu` | oh :( |
| 14:26.37 | xyu` | i always forget to loot unless there's some big flashing animation to tell me to heh |
| 14:26.55 | Roartindon | Wobin: Yeah, that was excellent |
| 14:27.06 | Roartindon | I recommended all of my friends to see it in the cinemas a few months ago |
| 14:27.17 | Roartindon | And those that went all said they really were impressed by it |
| 14:27.19 | Fisker- | what movie? |
| 14:27.20 | Fisker- | oh |
| 14:27.21 | Wobin | absolutely stunning |
| 14:27.48 | Roartindon | Wobin: It got a couple of academy nominations I think |
| 14:27.50 | Fisker- | YES |
| 14:27.52 | Fisker- | fucking yes |
| 14:27.55 | Fisker- | and still fucking no |
| 14:28.04 | Fisker- | My chipset fan stopped making a big noise |
| 14:28.08 | Wobin | 3 oscars |
| 14:28.10 | Fisker- | and now i just ordered a new computer |
| 14:28.11 | Fisker- | :( |
| 14:28.29 | Fisker- | boy am i gonna sleep tonight |
| 14:29.01 | Funkeh` | ~seen ulic |
| 14:29.29 | purl | ulic <n=ulic@adsl-gte-la-216-86-214-215.mminternet.com> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 4d 20h 4m 5s ago, saying: 'it's the only buff really worth fighting for though.'. |
| 14:29.29 | Wobin | wow a lot of various awards |
| 14:29.29 | Wobin | 51 nominations and 49 wins in various |
| 14:34.50 | Fisker- | ~seen purl |
| 14:35.29 | purl | purl is currently on #casualti (2d 7h 21m 28s) #linuxfund (2d 7h 21m 28s) #wowi-lounge (2d 7h 21m 28s) #edev (2d 7h 21m 28s) #fossfund (2d 7h 21m 28s) #hosernet (2d 7h 21m 28s) #norganna (2d 7h 21m 28s) #creativeforum (2d 7h 21m 28s) #ud (2d 7h 21m 28s) #dub (2d 7h 21m 28s) #teleconf ... |
| 14:38.02 | Punkie` | Fisker-: You almost broke it! |
| 14:40.28 | CIA-31 | 03anea * r34188 10SpamSentry/ (18 files in 4 dirs): |
| 14:40.28 | CIA-31 | SpamSentry 20070501: |
| 14:40.28 | CIA-31 | - Updated filters |
| 14:40.28 | CIA-31 | - Counters on FuBar / Titan bar are now customisable |
| 14:40.28 | CIA-31 | - Added a 'no-reply-needed' notice to ticket text |
| 14:40.56 | Fisker- | it was like dividing by zero |
| 14:41.14 | chutwig | fisker is a sinister and destructive force |
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| 14:42.21 | Funkeh` | anea: ping |
| 14:42.38 | Proph_ | how do u make WOWACEUpdater not make "prat" pitbull", etc all PACKAGES?? |
| 14:42.49 | Funkeh` | less CAPS |
| 14:43.04 | Proph_ | theres like a billion DIR in addons\ folders |
| 14:43.15 | Funkeh` | yes they are like that to be more efficient |
| 14:43.27 | Funkeh` | they are all LoD so they only load the stuff when its needed |
| 14:43.48 | Funkeh` | saving memory and load time |
| 14:43.49 | Proph_ | i c |
| 14:43.57 | anea | wazzup funkeh =) |
| 14:44.18 | Proph_ | weird if i download Pitbull without LIBS, pitbull doesn't work... |
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| 14:46.13 | chutwig | yes it is indeed a mystery as to why something that depends on certain libraries would not work if those libraries are not present |
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| 14:47.04 | Funkeh` | anea: hey |
| 14:47.48 | Funkeh` | anea: when you report spam from trade channel, instead of using (trade) could you change it to (trade channel) so its more likely the GMs understand |
| 14:48.13 | Jens | What addon is that? |
| 14:48.49 | Funkeh` | Proph_ tell me what libraries are missing and ill fix it |
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| 14:49.41 | CIA-31 | 03roartindon * r34189 10Aloft/ (9 files in 3 dirs): |
| 14:49.41 | CIA-31 | Aloft |
| 14:49.41 | CIA-31 | - Shifted HealthData out of CoreModules directory |
| 14:49.41 | CIA-31 | - A number of data modules used to trigger Aloft:UpdateData, this has been removed |
| 14:49.41 | CIA-31 | - Aloft:UpdateData is now local to Aloft.lua |
| 14:50.29 | Jens | Funkeh`: What addon is that? About the reporting... |
| 14:50.41 | anea | mm yes and no funky. I used full channel names at first, but it cut down another bit of the limited and precious ammount of characters. |
| 14:50.46 | Funkeh` | Jens: thats SpamSentry by anea |
| 14:51.02 | anea | and even then, there were GM's that didn't get it |
| 14:51.02 | Jens | Hmm... Currently using EasyReport, which isn't Ace. |
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| 14:51.23 | Funkeh` | anea: i think the GM understanding what you are talking about is more important that a few extra characters, since they do a chatlog search of only a few words |
| 14:51.35 | anea | agree with that |
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| 14:52.29 | anea | anyway, there are rumours that a goldspam category will be added next patch. i'm going to revise the whole ticketsystem then so it will be possible to append stuff to already open tickets |
| 14:52.39 | Funkeh` | no |
| 14:52.43 | Funkeh` | they are improving the filters |
| 14:52.50 | anea | yes, that as well |
| 14:52.50 | Funkeh` | but theres no serious anti-gold spamming going in |
| 14:53.00 | Funkeh` | from what i have noticed anyway |
| 14:53.03 | anea | no, i'm talking a ticketing-category |
| 14:53.07 | vodrin | Funkeh`; i thought they were adding throttling |
| 14:53.14 | anea | just like there is 'verbal abuse' now |
| 14:53.23 | Funkeh` | vodrin: throttling already exists for ammount of whispers |
| 14:53.23 | Roartindon_ | hmm.. gift of the wild icon looks awful on patch |
| 14:53.25 | Roartindon_ | ptr |
| 14:53.31 | Amadeo | a new one? |
| 14:53.33 | Funkeh` | anea: ah! |
| 14:53.55 | kebinusan | I would just prefer they stop trial accounts from sending whispers or something |
| 14:53.56 | Roartindon_ | Amadeo: I think so.. it's not the same as live |
| 14:54.04 | Amadeo | Interesting |
| 14:54.10 | Funkeh` | anea: hopefully they allow more characters for that ticket category :P |
| 14:54.20 | vodrin | Unsolicited whispers sent via SendChatMessage will be automatically throttled (to an unspecified, and as yet still undetermined limit), AddOns can use SendAddOnMessage instea.... |
| 14:54.24 | kebinusan | yeah new gold spam category gets routed to /dev/null |
| 14:54.26 | anea | kabinusan: unfortunately 90% of the spam is send from hacked full accounts |
| 14:54.26 | vodrin | what was that about? ;x |
| 14:54.41 | anea | funkeh: hope so too ^^ |
| 14:54.50 | Hotphoenix | they should just implement an extention to the api that lets you submit information directly without tickets |
| 14:55.09 | Amadeo | The problem is they can't do anything about gold spammers, because of what anea said |
| 14:55.20 | Amadeo | Unless they just ban all compromised accounts |
| 14:55.25 | Amadeo | which kills their income |
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| 14:55.46 | Amadeo | Which is priority number 1 |
| 14:55.48 | kebinusan | being bombarded daily with 20+ gold adverts is going to do alot of harm |
| 14:55.49 | Funkeh` | vodrin: strange, maybe they are throttling it even more, but im sure its throlled to ammount/minute |
| 14:55.58 | Amadeo | kebinusan: Nobody will stop playing over it |
| 14:55.59 | Roartindon_ | Amadeo: I think kebinusan's solution is best |
| 14:56.07 | Roartindon_ | Just stop trial accounts from sending whispers |
| 14:56.09 | Amadeo | Roartindon_: Yeah, I think it's a good start |
| 14:56.21 | Funkeh` | well the most important thing is speed of ticket reply as it is anea |
| 14:56.21 | Roartindon_ | or only allow them to reply to those who have whispered them |
| 14:56.39 | Funkeh` | anea: maybe they will ahve special gm tickets for gold whispers for faster replys |
| 14:56.40 | CIA-31 | 03borlox * r34190 10NCHide/ (. NCHide.toc): |
| 14:56.40 | CIA-31 | NCHide: |
| 14:56.41 | CIA-31 | -typo in a file path |
| 14:56.48 | Hotphoenix | surely they could setup something akin to punkbuster, a filter mod thats setup and integrated with a dedicated team behind it |
| 14:56.51 | vodrin | maybe its different throttling too |
| 14:56.58 | Amadeo | But...monopolies get lazy, and that's where Blizzard is right now :) |
| 14:57.07 | vodrin | only /w 10 people a minute or something silly |
| 14:57.12 | anea | funkeh: very likely yes. Blizz already is using macro's when they see the generated reports of my mod... |
| 14:57.15 | vodrin | instead of /w 100 in total |
| 14:57.24 | Funkeh` | yeah so i have noticed |
| 14:57.38 | anea | kinda ironic really. autogenerated spams, autogenerated tickets, and autogenerated GM answers. |
| 14:57.43 | kebinusan | Imo everyone should tie up gm's as much as possible when they get a live one reporting spam, maybe if it becomes a serious resouce issue then blizzard will stop treating the problem so lightly |
| 14:58.05 | kebinusan | or just raise rates to compensate I spose |
| 14:58.06 | Funkeh` | well according to blue the most important thing if you are reporting them is to do it asap |
| 14:58.06 | kebinusan | heh |
| 14:58.14 | Amadeo | kebinusan: I think ticket GMs are so low-tier that nobody really cares about them |
| 14:58.15 | Funkeh` | apparently people like to save up and report 10 at a time |
| 14:58.18 | Amadeo | You notice they are clueless about the game |
| 14:58.34 | kebinusan | its still a resource |
| 14:58.58 | Amadeo | You want to know when all this stuff will really get fixed? |
| 14:59.02 | Funkeh` | anea: another thing, sometimes their bots bug and send you 2x the same whisper, any chance you could block the 2nd if it matches the first, but not add it to the report list? |
| 14:59.03 | Amadeo | When Warhammer Online is released :) |
| 14:59.08 | Amadeo | That's when BLizzard will stop being lazy |
| 15:00.05 | anea | funkeh: nope can't do. even though the message is the same, the botname is different and may be on a different account. spamsentry won't add messages from the same char mind |
| 15:00.07 | kebinusan | on the server side they could queue outgoing whispers, if the person is trying to send more than 10 in a 1 second period or w/e drop them all |
| 15:00.27 | Amadeo | kebinusan: I say drop em offline ;) |
| 15:00.33 | kebinusan | works for me |
| 15:00.35 | Funkeh` | anea: that understandable, but you misunderstood me, its the same bot that will send you the same whisper in about 2 seconds |
| 15:00.37 | Amadeo | and ban all names that are like: glkjaslgkj |
| 15:00.59 | anea | funkeh: mm... is it added twice then? that's odd... wasn't meant to be |
| 15:01.27 | Funkeh` | anea: is seems to be, but maybe its because i report it as soon as i see it? and then it adds it again? |
| 15:01.27 | kebinusan | Or even better, add an in game option to allow me to block whispers from characters below a specified level |
| 15:01.56 | Kaydeethree | keb; the server-side limit on whispers is happening in 2.1 |
| 15:01.57 | anea | funkeh: yes, that's possible |
| 15:02.04 | kebinusan | Kaydeethree: good to hear |
| 15:02.45 | kebinusan | I never really had a problem with gold whispers pre tbc |
| 15:02.53 | Kaydeethree | neither did the rest of us |
| 15:02.53 | Amadeo | They're changing PvP reward values in 2.1, right? Anyone have a link to the new costs? |
| 15:02.56 | anea | funkeh: i think that i made it so that the blacklist is cleared after you reported the player. i could change it so that it would only do so on login... mmm... gotta think about htat |
| 15:03.10 | vodrin | its not really changed much on my server since tbc |
| 15:03.23 | vodrin | just now they are multi line and even worse grammar |
| 15:03.56 | Funkeh` | anea: thats a better idea, but ofc don't filter different bot names even if whisper is the same :) |
| 15:03.56 | Kaydeethree | that's because they've started doing a little filtering... Try typing "/say peons4hire" as written in-game/on the ptr |
| 15:04.07 | vodrin | remember the ones spamming bwl from dun morogh ? :) |
| 15:04.19 | kebinusan | p3ons4h1r3.(o/\/\ |
| 15:04.23 | anea | =) |
| 15:05.00 | vodrin | love when they have spamsite.@om (thats @om for com!) |
| 15:05.03 | vodrin | :-( |
| 15:05.32 | [Ammo] | I still love antispam.lua from SCM |
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| 15:05.47 | [Ammo] | works perfectly for my use and is tiny |
| 15:06.11 | kebinusan | require email activation of new characters created would be helpful |
| 15:06.15 | kebinusan | whats it do ammo |
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| 15:06.38 | Funkeh` | [Ammo] depends on whether you care about reporting or not |
| 15:06.43 | [Ammo] | I don't care about reporting |
| 15:06.46 | [Ammo] | other people can do that |
| 15:06.51 | [Ammo] | I care about not seeing the messages |
| 15:06.55 | [Ammo] | which is exactly what happens |
| 15:07.04 | kebinusan | I prefer to report because it makes the problem more visible |
| 15:07.18 | [Ammo] | I rely on others reporting |
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| 15:07.22 | [Ammo] | I will forget to report anyway |
| 15:07.23 | Funkeh` | [Ammo] exactly, so which mod you use is dependant on what you want, which is great since theres 1 mod for both attitudes |
| 15:07.31 | [Ammo] | yup |
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| 15:07.32 | Kaydeethree | but if everyone had that attitude, there'd be no reports |
| 15:07.45 | Funkeh` | thats bullshit |
| 15:07.46 | anea | ammo: only downside on the thingy from scm is that it is rather crude on determining what is spam. you may loose some messages without knowing |
| 15:07.54 | Funkeh` | you can't expect everyone to want to report them |
| 15:08.05 | [Ammo] | anea: like I care |
| 15:08.23 | anea | ammo no =D and i can't blame you or anyone else =D |
| 15:08.25 | [Ammo] | I added scarlet to the list as well |
| 15:08.30 | [Ammo] | in my local copy |
| 15:08.42 | [Ammo] | and some other instances I don't want to be bothered with |
| 15:08.43 | [Ammo] | :) |
| 15:08.47 | kebinusan | I think it was denial or something that required players to whisper you back with a keyword if they werent on your friends list in order to send a message |
| 15:08.56 | Funkeh` | yeah |
| 15:08.59 | Funkeh` | thats another way around it |
| 15:09.06 | Funkeh` | which personally, i think is shit :P |
| 15:09.37 | [Ammo] | the main issue is not seeing the spam |
| 15:09.51 | [Ammo] | how you accomplish that and what happens with the spam is another thing |
| 15:09.53 | nevcairiel | isnt that the whole point? |
| 15:10.03 | nevcairiel | btw |
| 15:10.14 | Funkeh` | i want to see the spam, because most bots(which i hate more than spammers) use the same account for botting and whispering |
| 15:10.16 | nevcairiel | I need to fix SCM to hook into WIM |
| 15:10.22 | Funkeh` | banning the spammer gets the bot banned |
| 15:10.24 | [Ammo] | I thought about just ignoring everyone with more than X consecutive nonvowels |
| 15:10.29 | Funkeh` | 2 birds with 1 stone |
| 15:10.44 | [Ammo] | or something like that |
| 15:11.09 | vodrin | what about crazy names like glhn |
| 15:11.09 | vodrin | =o |
| 15:11.15 | Funkeh` | my server went from around 200 bots to 30 past 2 weeks |
| 15:11.31 | Funkeh` | doing /who 60 returns just under 30 players |
| 15:11.54 | kebinusan | see spammers are why same faction ganking should be allowed |
| 15:12.04 | Funkeh` | lol |
| 15:12.05 | kebinusan | hang out in your starting area to kill them for some satisfaction |
| 15:12.21 | Funkeh` | its most irritating when they pick a dwarf female to do it |
| 15:12.24 | Funkeh` | you jsut wannt .. |
| 15:12.34 | Funkeh` | crush! |
| 15:12.45 | [Ammo] | well, what I don't see is not there :) |
| 15:12.45 | kebinusan | real chicks have hooves |
| 15:12.53 | Funkeh` | good to have horde friens that come all the way to IF and kill it |
| 15:12.56 | [Ammo] | I don't want to be reminded after an evening that people attempted to spam me 11 times |
| 15:13.00 | [Ammo] | :) |
| 15:13.07 | anea | mmm ammo want to buy your [blindfold] |
| 15:13.58 | vodrin | basically scm is the selfish way out of spam |
| 15:14.01 | kebinusan | If only they new the other bot just spammed me with a lower gold rate, I bet they'd be upset |
| 15:14.02 | vodrin | and i like selfish ;-o |
| 15:14.17 | [Ammo] | the tokens are simple atm in SCM |
| 15:14.20 | [Ammo] | but they can be regexp's |
| 15:14.26 | [Ammo] | since it uses find() |
| 15:14.40 | [Ammo] | so if anyone wants to they can make them more foolproof |
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| 15:17.41 | Megalon | '.*tank.*' |
| 15:17.43 | Megalon | ;x |
| 15:17.48 | [Ammo] | yarr |
| 15:17.53 | [Ammo] | no more spam with 'hey want to tank ...' |
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| 15:18.13 | nevcairiel | i should get that |
| 15:18.17 | nevcairiel | being a resto druid |
| 15:18.19 | [Ammo] | and even better |
| 15:18.21 | Megalon | oh, find(), then 'tank' should be enough |
| 15:18.22 | Megalon | ;D |
| 15:18.22 | [Ammo] | they whisper you once |
| 15:18.24 | vodrin | i think the more appropiate one would be '.*last spot.*' |
| 15:18.29 | [Ammo] | they can't whisper you again! |
| 15:18.40 | Funkeh` | logged ptr to test something |
| 15:18.42 | [Ammo] | even if they don't use the blockphrase they're fuxored |
| 15:18.44 | Mikk | Hrms.. any idea on why Baggins->Sieve->PeriodicTables would end up NOT showing the "Tradeskill" table for my low level toons? |
| 15:18.44 | Funkeh` | forgot what i wanted to test.. |
| 15:19.17 | nevcairiel | ammo that list resetes on reload right= |
| 15:19.18 | nevcairiel | ? |
| 15:19.26 | Mikk | (I've been trying to read Sieve/PT code but it hurts my head :-P) |
| 15:19.35 | [Ammo] | nevcairiel: yeah |
| 15:19.39 | [Ammo] | nothing is saved |
| 15:19.43 | nevcairiel | too bad tho :D |
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| 15:19.50 | kebinusan | I love getting tells want to come to Arcatraz while Im in Gruul's lair and such |
| 15:19.52 | nevcairiel | ive been whisperd once a day by the same guy |
| 15:20.01 | nevcairiel | always responding "no i am resto, i cannot tank" |
| 15:20.04 | [Ammo] | haha |
| 15:20.13 | [Ammo] | make answermachine.lua :p |
| 15:20.30 | kebinusan | We had this paladin on my old realm, would always message me "Yo, wanna do strat?" |
| 15:20.58 | Mikk | nevcairiel: on a sidenote, there's something funny going on in the Alt mod in Prat... specifically in the coloring routines in extras/utils.lua. It ends up getting r/g/b as nil and errors out. |
| 15:21.29 | kebinusan | Bleh realms need to come up so I can play with InfiniBar some more |
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| 15:22.30 | Funkeh` | shadowfiend still doesn't have a basic pet bar in 2.1 |
| 15:22.35 | Mikk | nevcairiel: http://www.pastey.net/20349 |
| 15:22.46 | Funkeh` | i hope they added some actual inteligence so it doesn't hit CC'd mobs |
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| 15:24.03 | nevcairiel | Mikk: what do i care about prat, really ? :D |
| 15:24.08 | nevcairiel | i dont even use that mod |
| 15:24.24 | Mikk | pardon been sniffing too much glue. ignore me. |
| 15:24.32 | [Ammo] | hehe |
| 15:24.33 | nevcairiel | no worries :D |
| 15:24.42 | nevcairiel | but imho prat is bloated |
| 15:25.00 | Chompers | or 'feature-rich' |
| 15:25.10 | kebinusan | speaking prat, I need to trim some fat from my ui, I remember it used to be like 26mb, now its up to 40ish |
| 15:25.12 | nevcairiel | SCM really does everything i need |
| 15:25.50 | nevcairiel | only thing which is bloating my UI right now is SWS .. but its kinda useful for raid-leading-purposes |
| 15:26.07 | [Ammo] | it's handy to check who's not pulling their weight |
| 15:26.13 | [Ammo] | and for afterraid analysis use wowwebstats |
| 15:26.15 | kebinusan | nevcairiel: I started using WoW Web Stats instead of SWS |
| 15:26.23 | [Ammo] | wws is afterraid only |
| 15:26.25 | kebinusan | and just parsing it after the raid is over |
| 15:26.26 | kebinusan | yeah |
| 15:26.29 | nevcairiel | mm |
| 15:26.31 | [Ammo] | I need midraid scolding :; |
| 15:26.36 | kebinusan | heheh |
| 15:26.49 | [Ammo] | but WWS is awesome |
| 15:26.53 | kebinusan | yeah |
| 15:26.56 | nevcairiel | without range increase, WWS kinda lacks information |
| 15:27.04 | [Ammo] | last week we had an affliction lock not using corruption |
| 15:27.09 | Mikk | ... |
| 15:27.13 | [Ammo] | that stuff isn't easily noticed |
| 15:27.13 | nevcairiel | heh |
| 15:27.19 | [Ammo] | but with WWS we set him straight |
| 15:27.40 | nevcairiel | does WWS get enough information, without increasing log range now? |
| 15:27.42 | Funkeh` | WWS will die if blizz don't fix range |
| 15:27.54 | [Ammo] | nevcairiel: you can sync multiple logs |
| 15:27.56 | Funkeh` | since combatlog ranges seem to have been removed |
| 15:27.58 | kebinusan | I liked one of our warlocks sitting #1 on the damage meter during phase 1 magtheridon.. she got a nice stern talking to about CC |
| 15:27.59 | nevcairiel | ah you can sync |
| 15:28.01 | nevcairiel | thats nice |
| 15:28.04 | Funkeh` | oh nice |
| 15:28.10 | [Ammo] | yeah you can combine multiple logs into one |
| 15:28.16 | kebinusan | yeah, the log rolling is nice |
| 15:28.16 | nevcairiel | what would be cool |
| 15:28.24 | nevcairiel | a simple addon to sync combat log ingame |
| 15:28.29 | [Ammo] | RDX! |
| 15:28.35 | [Ammo] | (oh wait talking heresy in the church) |
| 15:28.35 | nevcairiel | i said simple |
| 15:28.40 | [Ammo] | :) |
| 15:28.48 | kebinusan | the problem is getting people to nuke their combat logs and remembering to disable it after the raid is over |
| 15:28.57 | Tornhoof | you can't add your own output to combatlog afaik |
| 15:29.03 | kebinusan | last time I did WWS for the raid, I had like 3 hours of me pvping in the log file |
| 15:29.08 | nevcairiel | lol |
| 15:29.12 | Tornhoof | so it would write it down to some lua savedvar |
| 15:29.30 | nevcairiel | well fine with me |
| 15:29.30 | [Ammo] | kebinusan: it has splitting options too |
| 15:29.34 | CIA-31 | 03roartindon * r34191 10Aloft/Modules/ManaData.lua: |
| 15:29.34 | CIA-31 | Aloft |
| 15:29.34 | CIA-31 | - ManaData module now correctly handles OnUnitidDataChanged events |
| 15:29.35 | nevcairiel | hm well no |
| 15:29.40 | nevcairiel | alot mem usage again :P |
| 15:29.44 | kebinusan | yeah, I wasnt paying attention when I upped it the first time |
| 15:29.58 | kebinusan | the one feature Id like is /combatlog logfilename |
| 15:30.02 | [Ammo] | yeah |
| 15:30.08 | [Ammo] | pester blizz |
| 15:30.11 | [Ammo] | gogogogo |
| 15:30.27 | nevcairiel | wasnt there a addon for WWS to enable logging on raid creating and disable on reaid-leave ? |
| 15:30.29 | kebinusan | yeah actually lemme see if I can login to the forums atm |
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| 15:30.35 | [Ammo] | nevcairiel: yeah |
| 15:30.37 | kebinusan | nevcairiel: yeah AutoCL |
| 15:30.41 | kebinusan | works pretty well |
| 15:30.46 | nevcairiel | i should get that |
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| 15:31.50 | [Ammo] | nevcairiel: thought there was one on the svn as well |
| 15:31.55 | [Ammo] | not sure if it's better than autocl though |
| 15:32.04 | [Ammo] | svn has a lot of crap |
| 15:32.13 | nevcairiel | hm |
| 15:32.18 | kebinusan | Yeah theres one Log something or other, but it was annoying |
| 15:32.24 | nevcairiel | i see AutoCL hasnt been updates for BC instances |
| 15:32.32 | kebinusan | every time I changed zones it'd ask do you want logging enabled here |
| 15:32.40 | [Ammo] | that's shitty |
| 15:32.48 | kebinusan | nevcairiel: it was updated for 2.0, it just has an option to add the current zone |
| 15:32.53 | nevcairiel | ah |
| 15:32.55 | nevcairiel | oki |
| 15:32.59 | kebinusan | then you just zone in, autocl, add current zone |
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| 15:33.31 | [Ammo] | loggerhead it was |
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| 15:34.13 | nevcairiel | java web start ftl btw |
| 15:34.26 | kebinusan | heh, its not that bad |
| 15:34.43 | [Ammo] | seems loggerhead will only ask once per zone |
| 15:34.48 | kebinusan | yeah |
| 15:34.58 | [Ammo] | unless you configure it beforehand |
| 15:35.00 | [Ammo] | then it should never ask |
| 15:36.02 | Silviu- | renchap , public svn down ? :) |
| 15:37.15 | kebinusan | 175 folders in my addons dir atm :-/ |
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| 15:37.52 | nevcairiel | 154 |
| 15:38.06 | nevcairiel | i could LoD PitBull to get to 175 :p |
| 15:38.22 | Mikma | 65 |
| 15:38.33 | kebinusan | yeah I dont have pitbull LoD, guess I could do that too |
| 15:38.41 | kebinusan | just cartographer and bigwigs atm |
| 15:38.53 | nevcairiel | and ora for me |
| 15:39.01 | nevcairiel | tho i dont think its really that big thing for ora :D |
| 15:39.04 | kebinusan | err yah that too |
| 15:39.37 | kenlyric_ | I went standalone, so i'm up to 197 |
| 15:40.55 | kenlyric_ | I really should delete all those bigiwigs, but they'll just get put back in when I update. |
| 15:41.05 | [Ammo] | fix your update.bat :p |
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| 15:41.13 | nevcairiel | hm yeah |
| 15:41.17 | nevcairiel | i could remove all that pre BC content |
| 15:41.28 | [Ammo] | it's not affecting your WoW though |
| 15:41.34 | [Ammo] | since it's nice and Lod |
| 15:41.36 | nevcairiel | its all about load time! |
| 15:41.52 | kenlyric_ | it's all about USB backup time for me. |
| 15:41.57 | nevcairiel | heh |
| 15:42.27 | [Ammo] | load time should not be affected either |
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| 15:43.09 | kebinusan | AlnternateBlips, PowerAuras, and SWStats are probably the only 3 non svn addons I have |
| 15:43.12 | CIA-31 | 03archarodim * r34192 10Decursive/ (13 files): |
| 15:43.12 | CIA-31 | Decursive: |
| 15:43.12 | CIA-31 | - The scale and transparency of the live-list can be changed in the options. |
| 15:43.12 | CIA-31 | - 4 new locals have been added (Already translated for frFR) |
| 15:43.22 | nevcairiel | my update.bat "Un-LoDs" all addons before it runs the update |
| 15:43.29 | nevcairiel | so it doesnt actually download everything again |
| 15:43.33 | nevcairiel | that would break :( |
| 15:44.01 | [Ammo] | why would you unload? |
| 15:44.03 | [Ammo] | unlod |
| 15:44.35 | nevcairiel | if i svn update on the BigWigs dir, it would download all modules |
| 15:44.42 | [Ammo] | so? |
| 15:44.54 | nevcairiel | so i can move them back in there and not have that |
| 15:44.55 | nevcairiel | who cares :D |
| 15:45.00 | [Ammo] | ah ok |
| 15:45.05 | [Ammo] | well it should not break |
| 15:45.13 | [Ammo] | if you move em back, it would only download them |
| 15:46.09 | kebinusan | hmm wonder how many of these 150some addons I actually have enabled atm |
| 15:47.17 | kebinusan | 62... thats encouraging |
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| 15:56.38 | CIA-31 | 03ammo * r34193 10SRA/ (SRA.lua locales/enUS.lua): SRA: Some Ready Are |
| 15:58.12 | kebinusan | SRA? new raid assist thingy? |
| 15:58.26 | [Ammo] | rule one of SRA.... |
| 15:59.01 | kebinusan | gotcha, the toc had me all excited: Sexually offensive addon that eats coconuts for breakfast. |
| 15:59.11 | [Ammo] | yeah it's completely offensive |
| 15:59.53 | kenlyric_ | the first rule of tired cliches is don't talk about tired cliches. |
| 16:00.11 | Amadeo | second rule, too |
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| 16:01.13 | kenlyric_ | your mom talks about the first rule of fight club. |
| 16:01.22 | kenlyric_ | there. I've created a vortex of overuse. |
| 16:01.33 | [Ammo] | your mom put up a fight but I finally 'clubbed' her |
| 16:02.11 | Amadeo | I think Fight Club was on TV the other day |
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| 16:03.39 | Kaelten | anyone know the syntax for firewalling a domain name on a web server? |
| 16:03.53 | Liocer | lol do what? |
| 16:04.02 | Liocer | 1) what software |
| 16:04.09 | Liocer | 2) huh? |
| 16:04.22 | *** join/#wowace FISKER_Q (i=ballmer@85.24.17.250.generic-hostname.arrownet.dk) |
| 16:04.23 | Kaelten | I forget the syntax I used to ban this guy's other ip address |
| 16:04.25 | Kaelten | he's raping the server |
| 16:04.34 | Kaelten | 3 times the traffic of anyone else |
| 16:04.37 | Kaelten | on a daily basis |
| 16:04.50 | Kaelten | cost me > 100 bucks last month |
| 16:04.54 | Liocer | if you're using apache I think you can use a directory rule |
| 16:05.04 | Kaelten | ya I'd rather ban him using the firewall though |
| 16:05.30 | Gngsk | ipfw? |
| 16:06.03 | Matrix110 | Kealten write a abuse mail to his ISP |
| 16:07.00 | Matrix110 | they deal atleast here in germany quite fast with such matters and cancel their accounts if they continue doing it after giving them a warning |
| 16:07.01 | Kaelten | Gngsk: nope, I'm running ubuntu |
| 16:07.21 | Kaelten | hrm I wonder if I can figure out what the hoster is |
| 16:07.26 | Kaelten | it's a german website |
| 16:07.42 | Matrix110 | someone mirroring orso i guess |
| 16:07.46 | Gngsk | ipchains then? |
| 16:08.34 | Matrix110 | try ripe.net maybe you are lucky and you see it directly |
| 16:09.05 | Matrix110 | or look it all up at denic |
| 16:09.17 | Matrix110 | http://www.denic.de/en/index.html |
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| 16:09.55 | Matrix110 | Kealten http://www.denic.de/en/index.html |
| 16:10.00 | Fisker- | hope it isn't me :P |
| 16:10.19 | Matrix110 | you get all information needed to write a abuse mail there normally |
| 16:10.52 | Fisker- | why an abuse mail? |
| 16:10.57 | Fisker- | It's not like he's doing anything wrong |
| 16:11.15 | Matrix110 | well if hes doing 3x the traffic others are he is doing something wrong |
| 16:11.16 | nevcairiel | he is not? |
| 16:11.16 | Megalon | Kaelten: reverse dns lookup on the ip? |
| 16:11.23 | Fisker- | what is the ip? |
| 16:11.25 | Fisker- | and i can check |
| 16:11.28 | chutwig | Kaelten: iptables -A INPUT -s ______________ -j REJECT |
| 16:11.31 | chutwig | to drop his packets at the firewall |
| 16:11.40 | Kaelten | knallstube.de is the domain name |
| 16:11.52 | Matrix110 | wtf Oo |
| 16:11.54 | Fisker- | lol |
| 16:12.09 | Megalon | wtf |
| 16:12.17 | Thrae | Kaelten: google quicktables, I think the website is qtables.radom.org |
| 16:12.31 | Thrae | Kaelten: Makes a NAT firewall script very easy to setup, including drop/reject etc |
| 16:12.41 | Thrae | Kaelten: If you want something more powerful, look at Shorewall / ICop / etc. |
| 16:12.46 | chutwig | iptables is fine |
| 16:13.01 | Thrae | chutwig: All these programs use iptables |
| 16:13.02 | Fisker- | makes no sense though |
| 16:13.12 | chutwig | you don't need front-end stuff to use iptables |
| 16:13.36 | chutwig | the syntax isn't difficult, you just need to know a little bit about networking |
| 16:13.57 | Matrix110 | Kealten its server4you.de his hoster |
| 16:14.19 | Fisker- | It's hetzner.de |
| 16:14.19 | Thrae | You don't, but most people should ;) Its not bad to try and optimize a firewall script, ala Shorewall / etc. |
| 16:14.23 | nevcairiel | the domain ip resolves to hetzner.de |
| 16:14.46 | Fisker- | doesn't really matter it's not abuse anyways |
| 16:14.55 | Thrae | chutwig: You're talking to people that believe in collaborative development. |
| 16:15.04 | chutwig | i don't trust evil frontends |
| 16:15.22 | chutwig | i write my rules out in the snow walking uphill both ways 15 miles |
| 16:15.49 | Gngsk | bang gang for life |
| 16:16.10 | Amadeo | Sounds like a website for a good time |
| 16:16.23 | Thrae | chutwig: Haha. I've made my own very solid firewall scripts, but tc was so hard to figure out for QoS, and Shorewall handles it fine. Shorewall also allows you to tweak it by using iptables directly, which is what I've done through my own "macros". |
| 16:16.40 | chutwig | germans are genetically incapable of having fun |
| 16:17.20 | *** mode/#wowace [+o Kaelten] by ChanServ |
| 16:17.28 | Thrae | chutwig: Shorewall also has a lot more optimizations that from my research seem plausible, but I'm not sure. Like droping packets x,y,z for conditions q,e,d. I don't know THAT much about networking to understand WHY syn packets should be rejected in some cases. |
| 16:20.03 | chutwig | Thrae: as in the difference between DROP/REJECT or something else? |
| 16:20.25 | Thrae | chutwig: No, why SYN packets are bad. They seem to be part of basic networking. |
| 16:20.34 | chutwig | i dunno |
| 16:20.41 | chutwig | that sounds like something some pedant would come up with |
| 16:20.59 | chutwig | i think it's a lot better to just keep things as simple as possible |
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| 16:22.05 | Thrae | chutwig: Eh, a little extra protection doesn't hurt. I see no "lag" differences between a "simple" firewall and a "complex" one. |
| 16:22.44 | Thrae | chutwig: And everyone I go, I see SYN packets for TCP being treated differently by people who know what they're doing. |
| 16:23.43 | chutwig | i don't see why other than to defend against SYN floods, but that doesn't really impact network stacks now |
| 16:23.51 | chutwig | no more than any other DoS |
| 16:23.57 | Thrae | chutwig: I believe that's the intent. |
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| 16:29.51 | Vangual | <3 shorewall |
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| 16:45.03 | CIA-31 | 03rabbit * r34194 10BigWigs/Plugins/Version.lua: BigWigs: Version: Bugfix. |
| 16:47.50 | CIA-31 | 03ryuji * r34195 10SpellBinder/ (SpellBinder-zhTW.lua SpellBinder.toc): SpellBinder:updated and fixed localization zhTW |
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| 16:50.11 | TheKarn | http://m.uk.2mdn.net/viewad/1437936/amd_ms_120x600_en.gif anyone else see the irony? |
| 16:50.27 | CIA-31 | 03ryuji * r34196 10GrindStatus/GrindStatus-zhTW.lua: GrindStatus:updated and fixed localization zhTW |
| 16:51.53 | xyu` | i don't. plz tell me :( |
| 16:52.50 | Arrowmaster | amd owns ati |
| 16:52.57 | TheKarn | wrong |
| 16:52.57 | xyu` | do the new svn reversions of PT3Bar have the scaling built in? I had to download kenlyric's version to get that before. |
| 16:52.59 | TheKarn | amd is ATI |
| 16:53.15 | xyu` | orly. |
| 16:53.17 | kenlyric | not my version :) |
| 16:53.36 | kenlyric | amd is ati now. |
| 16:53.41 | kenlyric | they bought it. |
| 16:54.48 | Silviu- | http://ati.amd.com/ |
| 16:54.50 | Silviu- | :P |
| 16:55.07 | Gnarfoz | ati is amd, not the other way around ;p |
| 16:55.11 | Silviu- | I would say amd bought ati |
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| 16:55.38 | Arrowmaster | has amd made a profit during any quarter for the past 5 years? |
| 16:57.00 | kenlyric | yes. |
| 16:57.25 | Gnarfoz | sure did |
| 16:58.46 | TheKarn | Gnarfoz, sorry yeah |
| 16:59.34 | CIA-31 | 03nymbia * r34197 10PitBull/ (PitBull.toc libs/): |
| 16:59.34 | CIA-31 | PitBull: |
| 16:59.34 | CIA-31 | - Add AceHook-2.1 to externals and toc |
| 17:00.09 | FrostByghte | I grabbed the Fubar-DPS last night, and it doesn't seem to actually show any DPS info at all, anyone else have this issue? |
| 17:05.22 | kebinusan | FrostByghte: Never used it, Ive been hooked on nanostats for a while |
| 17:06.01 | FrostByghte | oh I'll check that out then |
| 17:06.07 | FrostByghte | is that Ace2? |
| 17:07.20 | deltron | fubar dps works for me |
| 17:07.31 | deltron | just shows the dps you are outputting |
| 17:07.37 | deltron | very simple |
| 17:07.40 | FrostByghte | ya, I can't get it to show anything it stays at 0 |
| 17:07.55 | FrostByghte | I have simplecombat log installed...maybe that is messing it up? |
| 17:08.26 | deltron | hmm |
| 17:08.37 | deltron | doubt it |
| 17:10.05 | Kaelten | no one happens to have a good way to see when a mob dies? |
| 17:10.22 | deltron | health == 0 |
| 17:10.23 | deltron | ? |
| 17:10.38 | Kaelten | I'm thinking I'm going to have to parse a chat message |
| 17:11.04 | Kaydeethree | "Mobname dies." or "You have slain mobname!" |
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| 17:11.06 | Kaydeethree | iirc |
| 17:11.12 | Antiarc|Work | Kaelten: I think there's an event for it |
| 17:11.41 | Gnarfoz | should be a UNIT_COMBAT sub event? or something |
| 17:11.43 | Kaelten | CHAT_MSG_COMBAT_HOSTILE_DEATH |
| 17:11.49 | Kaelten | is about the best I can find I think. |
| 17:11.49 | Antiarc|Work | That's the one |
| 17:11.50 | Kaydeethree | ya |
| 17:11.54 | deltron | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/1 <-- heh nice, never knew about that page |
| 17:12.56 | deltron | well that bug report |
| 17:14.07 | CIA-31 | 03mikma * r34198 10DreamBuff/: DreamBuff: changing to other site |
| 17:15.38 | CIA-31 | 03ammo * r34199 10SRA/SRA.lua: SRA: Slick Rythm Audio |
| 17:16.53 | Gnarfoz | rhythm! |
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| 17:17.11 | deltron | lol |
| 17:17.15 | deltron | i saw that too |
| 17:18.33 | FrostByghte | well it's working fine now |
| 17:18.34 | FrostByghte | odd |
| 17:21.46 | Gnarfoz | anea: is it intentional that the locales are mixed escaped unicode chars (like: ["clear"] = "l\195\182schen",) and unescaped ones ( ["[NO REPLY NEEDED]\n"] = "[KEINE ANTWORT BENÖTIGT]\n",)? |
| 17:21.55 | Gnarfoz | (regarding SpamSentry of course) |
| 17:22.46 | Kinkx | Got 0 rating from beating a team in 5v5.. how is that even possible? Thought 1 rating was the minimum |
| 17:23.16 | Antiarc|Work | Maybe they really, really sucked |
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| 17:24.19 | FrostByghte | man some of the folks reporting bugs with Pitbull are a bit uh...arse like in the forums |
| 17:24.43 | Antiarc|Work | I DEMAND MY FREE SOFTWARE BE MAGICALLY BUG FREE >:( |
| 17:24.43 | anea | gnarfoz: yes and no... my good practice is to escape all chars, but I was lazy... aparently the O-umlaut doesn't seem to go well with wow while it doesn't have trouble with unescaped chars normally |
| 17:25.03 | Gnarfoz | mind if I escape them all (at least for deDE)? |
| 17:25.15 | FrostByghte | ya some of these are outright hostile...now I understand concern but holy hell |
| 17:27.31 | anea | gnarfoz: if you can give me the correct escape codes i'll update it right away |
| 17:27.55 | Gnarfoz | anea: I can give them to you _and_ do it for you so you don't have to bother ;> |
| 17:28.42 | Amadeo | Antiarc|Work: I don't think it matters if it costs money or not, software is almost never bug free :P |
| 17:28.53 | anea | the svn is locked to me, so you would find you'd have a hard time '-) |
| 17:29.00 | Gnarfoz | ah, figures |
| 17:29.11 | Gnarfoz | i'll PM you, then :) |
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| 17:30.17 | Amadeo | must be a gold spammer :P |
| 17:31.34 | Roartindon | [Ammo]: ping |
| 17:31.38 | asdasdsa | hi, how do i get Prat to popup any incoming tells ? |
| 17:31.54 | Gnarfoz | hrm |
| 17:32.09 | Gnarfoz | Freenode again... can I PM people who are not identified when I am identified? |
| 17:32.17 | Roartindon | yes |
| 17:32.22 | Roartindon | They just can't reply to your PMs |
| 17:32.26 | TheKarn | Antiarc|Work, I DEMAND MY ALPHA RELEASE TO BE COMMITED SO I CAN USE THEM >:( |
| 17:32.26 | Roartindon | until they identify themselves |
| 17:32.30 | Gnarfoz | ok then ^^ |
| 17:32.39 | Antiarc|Work | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:32.44 | Gnarfoz | anea: if you replied anything, it hasn't reached me because you're not identified to services :> |
| 17:32.46 | Antiarc|Work | I haven't had time to work on it this weekend :( |
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| 17:32.49 | TheKarn | np |
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| 17:32.54 | TheKarn | just thought i'd wind you up |
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| 17:36.54 | anea | gnarfoz: mmm... |
| 17:37.02 | CIA-31 | 03alx * r34200 10WhoLib/: initial release |
| 17:37.44 | anea | working on a clean install with just opera as irc client, guess i'll have to download something better |
| 17:38.22 | Arrowmaster | that should prevent you from registering your name |
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| 17:38.31 | Arrowmaster | s/should/shouldn't/ |
| 17:38.31 | Gnarfoz | shouldn't :> |
| 17:38.33 | Gnarfoz | heh |
| 17:38.47 | Zinn | anyone having problems with BananaBar2? For some reason wow wont load with that addon |
| 17:38.58 | Zinn | when I select character and go to loading screen it freezes |
| 17:40.57 | asdasdsa | hi, how do i get Prat to popup any incoming tells ? |
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| 17:42.02 | knarf^_^ | Is there an addon/plugin aht can show castbar or a little countdown when other healers in your raid start casting a heal? |
| 17:42.10 | knarf^_^ | that* |
| 17:42.57 | JoshBorke | healwatch can technically do that, but it sucks |
| 17:42.57 | knarf^_^ | Something that takes advantage of the castcommlib from grid maybe soit will report anyone using grid or the likes? |
| 17:44.11 | Zinn | is there another ace addon for banana bar functionality? |
| 17:44.14 | pastamancer | I started on something, but it doesn't display anything yet |
| 17:44.45 | vhaarr | nymbia: ping |
| 17:44.59 | CIA-31 | 03alx * r34201 10WhoLib/ (WhoLib.lua WhoLib.toc): WhoLib: initial release |
| 17:45.04 | nymbia | vhaarr: pong |
| 17:45.09 | Punkie` | hello |
| 17:45.13 | Punkie` | did anyone watch heroes yet? |
| 17:45.14 | vhaarr | nymbia: arenapointer seems to be missing some externals |
| 17:45.15 | Punkie` | IT RULES! |
| 17:45.18 | vhaarr | nymbia: at least acelocale-2.2 |
| 17:45.24 | nymbia | vhaarr: ok, thanks |
| 17:45.24 | vhaarr | nymbia: (which babble needs) |
| 17:45.31 | nymbia | yeah |
| 17:45.50 | Gnarfoz | omg I'm bored |
| 17:45.56 | Gnarfoz | I'm watching old wow movies |
| 17:46.07 | Arrowmaster | wow that wholib is a bastardization of the library format |
| 17:46.32 | Roartindon | nymbia: Are you in charge of CombatText module in PitBull? |
| 17:46.36 | Roartindon | Or is that ammo? or someone else? |
| 17:46.41 | nymbia | Roartindon: not me ;) |
| 17:47.36 | knarf^_^ | pastamancer darn it ;P |
| 17:48.09 | CIA-31 | 03nymbia * r34202 10ArenaPointer/ (ArenaPointer.toc libs/): |
| 17:48.09 | CIA-31 | ArenaPointer: |
| 17:48.09 | CIA-31 | - Add AceLocale to toc and externals. |
| 17:48.40 | nymbia | bleh, i should just internalize the point calculation |
| 17:48.46 | pastamancer | knarf^_^: http://grid.13th-floor.org/svn/trunk/IncomingHealBars/IncomingHealBars.lua have fun :) |
| 17:49.01 | Arrowmaster | i like that it uses glory |
| 17:49.12 | nymbia | instead of loading glory (which requires Deformat and Babble-Zone (which requires AceLocale)) |
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| 17:50.35 | vhaarr | depends how big part of glory you're using, imo, and if the data can change or not |
| 17:50.59 | nymbia | it can, which is why i moved that function to glory to begin with |
| 17:51.22 | vhaarr | right |
| 17:51.28 | vhaarr | sounds like a good idea to use glory then |
| 17:51.37 | vhaarr | chances are that people who use it also use other glory-based addons |
| 17:51.51 | nymbia | yup |
| 17:52.04 | Arrowmaster | and blizzard has tweaked the point calculations |
| 17:52.05 | [Ammo] | Roartindon: pong, but sending me PMs works better :p |
| 17:52.16 | Roartindon | [Ammo]: oh okay :) will remember in the future |
| 17:52.47 | Roartindon | Just a quick small one - the combatText module in Pitbull looks like it can never give ABSORB or RESIST messages |
| 17:53.07 | Roartindon | I think lines 70+72 should be text = CombatFeedbackText[flags] |
| 17:53.15 | [Ammo] | oh might be |
| 17:53.21 | [Ammo] | shrug |
| 17:53.21 | Roartindon | instead of text = CombatFeedbackText[event] |
| 17:53.27 | [Ammo] | yeah |
| 17:53.28 | [Ammo] | probably |
| 17:53.34 | [Ammo] | fix it |
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| 17:55.17 | CIA-31 | 03roartindon * r34203 10PitBull/CombatText/CombatText.lua: PitBull: CombatText - changed WOUND event text to use CombatFeedbackText[flags] which will hopefully start showing resist and absorb messages |
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| 17:59.32 | break19 | asdasdsa: just got back, and scrolled up to see what juicy tidbits I could see. and I have the answer to your question about how to make prat pop up incoming tells, if you are around |
| 18:00.13 | asdasdsa | break19: I am |
| 18:00.30 | break19 | k, its a module called chatpopup |
| 18:00.50 | break19 | make sure it's enabled. |
| 18:02.30 | CIA-31 | 03anea * r34204 10SpamSentry/ (6 files in 2 dirs): |
| 18:02.30 | CIA-31 | SpamSentry 20070501-2: |
| 18:02.30 | CIA-31 | - Updated localisations |
| 18:02.32 | asdasdsa | No usch Module in the Module Control list,I do have PopupMessage module |
| 18:02.41 | break19 | thats the one then |
| 18:03.44 | asdasdsa | With that i can popup messages from certain nicks, but not an option to popup incoming tells |
| 18:03.45 | CIA-31 | 03saroz * r34205 10FuBar_CombatTimeFu/FuBar_CombatTimeFu.lua: FuBar_CombatTimeFu: Tweaks and stuff |
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| 18:09.31 | CIA-31 | 03kirkburn * r34206 10ClearFont2/ (Changelog.txt Core.lua Design.lua): ClearFont2: Some more comment updates, prep for a release |
| 18:09.45 | xyu` | grrrrrrrr i just updated my addons and now some addons is opening the who window randomly then closing it o_O |
| 18:11.12 | Funkeh` | that sounds like a sensible thing to do |
| 18:11.43 | nymbia | i think i'll add that as a feature to all my addons. |
| 18:14.01 | break19 | asdasdsa: then i dunno what to tell ya.. |
| 18:14.15 | xyu` | what's a logical pve upgrade for Crystal Pulse shield non-raid? anyone know offhand? too lazy to search :P |
| 18:14.16 | Funkeh` | shieldb: can you change the default to 10 bars please |
| 18:14.17 | asdasdsa | break19: np, thank anyhow |
| 18:14.38 | xyu` | (for pally) |
| 18:16.24 | gnorlish | there is no pve upgrade non-raid |
| 18:16.28 | gnorlish | there are sidegrades |
| 18:16.35 | xyu` | ok thanks. |
| 18:16.39 | gnorlish | one from heroic badges, one from a heroic |
| 18:16.43 | xyu` | the chess event has one in kara right? |
| 18:16.48 | gnorlish | yes |
| 18:16.52 | pastamancer | I need to borrow a German with an ip address that starts with 77.x.x.x |
| 18:16.53 | xyu` | we're not quite there yet :) |
| 18:17.02 | kebinusan | could someone point me to the approximate place to poke a layout for pitbull, if say I wanted 4 rows of debuffs instead of 2 |
| 18:17.05 | xyu` | our first run for kara we got to curator though |
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| 18:17.18 | xyu` | but he pwned us |
| 18:17.19 | xyu` | swiftly |
| 18:17.27 | *** part/#wowace anea (n=apyss@a62-251-8-41.adsl.xs4all.nl) |
| 18:17.33 | gnorlish | you can skip straight past aran and do chess once you're tired of clearing aran trash over and over |
| 18:17.45 | xyu` | ooh really? |
| 18:18.00 | kebinusan | I'll show you this old dog still has some teeth! |
| 18:18.02 | xyu` | someone said aran had to be downed before doing chess |
| 18:18.08 | pastamancer | yeah, my group is working on aran, and we save the last hour of the night to clear to chess |
| 18:18.09 | kebinusan | neg |
| 18:18.21 | gnorlish | he does not, you hit a ledge and can go up to his room or another way to the rest of the instance |
| 18:18.29 | Arrowmaster | nothing in kara has to be done to progress, except for opera and chess |
| 18:18.31 | NeoTron | Last night I was playing my hunter alt. just dinged level 26 and decided, before training, to take a shot at Stalvan |
| 18:18.43 | NeoTron | so I ended up soloing a level 32 elite at leevl 26 |
| 18:18.45 | NeoTron | nerf hunters |
| 18:18.50 | xyu` | Arrowmaster: ok thanks |
| 18:18.50 | kebinusan | well its kinda hard to sneak past curator, but mostly correct |
| 18:19.18 | NeoTron | I saw a movie of a rogue doing chess event in a fresh instance |
| 18:19.26 | Arrowmaster | NeoTron: i soloed the 4 alliance outrunners in the barrens on my same level hunter once |
| 18:19.28 | NeoTron | and you need to do moroes too |
| 18:19.33 | NeoTron | or yuou can't do opera |
| 18:19.39 | Arrowmaster | really? |
| 18:19.39 | kebinusan | I think skeletal ushers should drop a play bill so you can see what opera event you will be doing |
| 18:20.02 | NeoTron | the rogue doing chess cheated however. hacking the enviroment like the old "straight to c'thun" wall-fallthrough trick some guilds used |
| 18:20.06 | kebinusan | yeah the opera guy will say moroes has cancelled all plays for dinner or somethin |
| 18:20.13 | NeoTron | yeah |
| 18:20.46 | Arrowmaster | i think the rogue doing chess cheated by using unstuck get past the side door |
| 18:21.00 | kebinusan | someone was saying earlier you could shadowstep through it |
| 18:21.03 | Arrowmaster | didnt cheat using altering game files like cthun trick |
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| 18:21.23 | xyu` | Is there any way to get spamcentury to report more than 4 at a time? |
| 18:21.26 | NeoTron | Arrowmaster: shadowstep |
| 18:21.28 | xyu` | er |
| 18:21.29 | xyu` | sentry* |
| 18:21.30 | xyu` | lol |
| 18:21.41 | NeoTron | but unstuck works too apparently |
| 18:21.56 | NeoTron | then he ran around outside, and under, the ground |
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| 18:25.22 | nevcairiel | I need a really simple combatlog filter, which allows me to specify stuff like "All Dmg Taken by Tank1 and Tank2" |
| 18:25.39 | nevcairiel | any suggestions? |
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| 18:26.44 | chutwig | ah |
| 18:26.48 | chutwig | blizzard is reverting the tailoring changes |
| 18:26.55 | NeoTron | really? |
| 18:26.57 | Fin | pussies |
| 18:27.14 | kebinusan | what? |
| 18:27.18 | NeoTron | source? |
| 18:27.19 | Silviu- | chutwig what u mean ? |
| 18:27.26 | kenlyric | link or it didn't happen |
| 18:27.26 | chutwig | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=100430525&sid=1 |
| 18:27.31 | kebinusan | wow, apparently tailors cry more than alchemists |
| 18:27.46 | KarlThePagan | no kidding |
| 18:27.54 | KarlThePagan | time to level tailor |
| 18:28.31 | JoshBorke | wow |
| 18:28.33 | KarlThePagan | froz shadoweave is now required for all pre-BT warlocks, shadow priests, and frost mages :P |
| 18:28.37 | JoshBorke | i can't believe they reverted it |
| 18:28.39 | Fin | nevcairiel: looked at Logger? |
| 18:28.47 | kebinusan | I cant believe the did it so quickly either |
| 18:28.49 | nevcairiel | no |
| 18:28.51 | NeoTron | kebinusan: the alchemy change is however good |
| 18:28.54 | nevcairiel | only thing i used before was SCL |
| 18:28.55 | JoshBorke | bad call on their part imo |
| 18:28.57 | nevcairiel | and i didnt like it |
| 18:29.01 | NeoTron | because it brings sanity to a rather insane raiding situation |
| 18:29.03 | Fin | nevcairiel: not sure if it'll help, but it can log damage taken and it has a summary stats display |
| 18:29.08 | KarlThePagan | I'd be happier if they just buffed the f-ing tier 4 and 5 sets slightly along with a smaller nerf |
| 18:29.16 | chutwig | i think the alch change is good overall, though it fucks elixir spec alchemists |
| 18:29.17 | nevcairiel | i dont want summary |
| 18:29.20 | shieldb | Funkeh`, sure |
| 18:29.23 | nevcairiel | just plain combatlog in chat window |
| 18:29.27 | JoshBorke | i'd rather get a different stat than int to replace the damage |
| 18:29.29 | chutwig | the tailoring changes were a little arbitrary |
| 18:29.29 | Fin | you said "all damage done to tank1 and tank2" |
| 18:29.39 | NeoTron | what they need are damage specific tier sets |
| 18:29.41 | chutwig | they just went wheeeeeee changing this and everyone went wtf |
| 18:29.42 | Fin | clarify "all" please |
| 18:29.44 | KarlThePagan | I seriously just passed on Incarnate dps leggings because it would be a downgrade from my AQ20 pants |
| 18:29.47 | kebinusan | NeoTron: Yes, completely nerfing a profession to near triviality is a good thing |
| 18:29.47 | chutwig | and then they went wheeeeeeeeee changing back |
| 18:29.54 | NeoTron | i.e 3 sets for locks - generic, shadow and fire |
| 18:30.04 | chutwig | it's not like demand for pots and transmutes is going to go down |
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| 18:30.23 | KarlThePagan | demand for elixers will go way down |
| 18:30.28 | KarlThePagan | and flasks up slightly |
| 18:30.39 | chutwig | that depends mostly on how they rebalance existing material |
| 18:30.50 | NeoTron | every sane person will use flasks for learning content and elixirs for farm content |
| 18:30.54 | KarlThePagan | I read no pre-SSC content would be revised |
| 18:31.03 | NeoTron | flasks will cost 1/3rd the mats for 1/3rd the effect |
| 18:31.23 | kenlyric | change means I'll probably always have a potion or flask on me in a raid. |
| 18:31.28 | kenlyric | i'll probably use more, but still spend less. |
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| 18:32.06 | chutwig | i do enchants for people and they give me elixirs in return |
| 18:32.09 | kebinusan | I would have prefered they fix the problem on the supply side and increase herbs available per node and make lichen appear outside of instances |
| 18:32.15 | KarlThePagan | yea, I just have to choose adepts or maj shad instead of both |
| 18:32.42 | KarlThePagan | kebin - that's what lv 70 + underbog is for |
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| 18:33.11 | JoshBorke | or stealth running slave pens |
| 18:33.24 | KarlThePagan | but given that it's so easy to ninja lichen from bog they should make it available in flight-only areas |
| 18:33.36 | kebinusan | Imo alchemists should get a third alchemist elixir slot to toss anything in, at least then we would get some self only benefit from it |
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| 18:33.48 | KarlThePagan | i like that idea ;) |
| 18:33.51 | kebinusan | or make alchemists stone affect all elixirs |
| 18:33.57 | NeoTron | kebinusan: still you have to admit that the level of the buffs (combined) was rediculous compared to gear progression |
| 18:34.07 | NeoTron | I mean how many tiers of gear do you need to gain 150 stamina? 5? |
| 18:34.23 | NeoTron | and that's just the stamina part of a flask |
| 18:34.26 | KarlThePagan | NeoTron, woah whatever elixers you have i want |
| 18:34.38 | kebinusan | NeoTron: but encounters were balanced around that, so I dont see the problem.. if the issue was making content more accessable they could have easily increased the supply of herbs available and farming would have been less of an issue |
| 18:34.39 | KarlThePagan | because even flasks are 1200-1500 hp |
| 18:34.41 | KarlThePagan | and those are flasks |
| 18:34.48 | NeoTron | kebinusan: that WAS the problem dude |
| 18:34.54 | NeoTron | that they were REQUIRED part of raiding |
| 18:35.09 | NeoTron | reducing the raiding game to an excessive farm game which really isn't fun |
| 18:35.20 | kebinusan | except it isnt |
| 18:35.27 | KarlThePagan | is it really excessive to get 10 people to contribute materials for ONE flask for your MT? |
| 18:35.32 | NeoTron | wouldn't you rather have raidign depend on skill and gear than farming elixirs and farms to a rediculous degree? |
| 18:35.46 | NeoTron | KarlThePagan: err. Flasks for the MT is not a problem |
| 18:35.51 | NeoTron | flasks AND elixirs for the entire raid is |
| 18:35.51 | kebinusan | Its pretty damn easy for any halfway competent group of people to farm and contribute to a guild bank which then turns around and provides all needed consumables for encounters |
| 18:35.59 | KarlThePagan | NeoTron, what are you raiding that you flask everyone in your group? |
| 18:36.16 | NeoTron | KarlThePagan: that is from what I hear the way the top guilds deal with SSC |
| 18:36.21 | NeoTron | I haven't been there yet |
| 18:36.25 | KarlThePagan | NeoTron, good thing they're being rebalanced |
| 18:36.36 | NeoTron | that's waht I'm saying |
| 18:36.38 | NeoTron | the change is good |
| 18:36.43 | KarlThePagan | and yea... that is pretty much what being a "top guild" meant |
| 18:36.43 | NeoTron | and it won'g ruin the profession |
| 18:36.45 | Amadeo | I thought mundane went out with EverQuest, lets not keep it in WoW :) |
| 18:36.51 | JoshBorke | kebinusan: well, not for flasks, sense there is a limited amount of mana thistle available at any one time |
| 18:36.56 | kebinusan | You maximize your materials by having the potion guy make potions, and the elixir guy make elixirs, the only thing that required hours of farming was all the damn lichen you needed for melee/tank/stoneshields and they havent done anything to address that |
| 18:36.58 | NeoTron | I'll go from buying 2 flasks ever (so far in BC raiding) to 2 per nigt |
| 18:37.03 | KarlThePagan | playing 80 hours a week... it's fine with me if that's the pinnacle of achievement... those losers can have their first kills ;) |
| 18:37.18 | NeoTron | and I'll keep my exilir purchases up to par of what I do now pretty much |
| 18:37.35 | KarlThePagan | kebinusan, wouldn't it be great if alch specializations weren't a chance to proc and just always 2x returns? |
| 18:37.48 | NeoTron | KarlThePagan: and had a 4 day cooldown |
| 18:38.03 | kebinusan | Not to mention, blizzard completely screwed alchemists over with the whole discovery system.. there is still no one on our realm that has flask of fortification |
| 18:38.15 | NeoTron | I believe the change will be benefitial to WoW as a whole since it'll make raiding a bit less resource heavy |
| 18:38.20 | KarlThePagan | word... I'd take a 4 day cooldown... then these idiots would stop only charging 5g per mute |
| 18:38.23 | NeoTron | that I agree with |
| 18:38.30 | NeoTron | but hopefully they are fixing that |
| 18:38.48 | NeoTron | 5g is reasonble for a transmute |
| 18:38.55 | NeoTron | it's not like it's a huge effort to you |
| 18:38.56 | KarlThePagan | for 1d huh? |
| 18:39.01 | NeoTron | yeah |
| 18:39.18 | NeoTron | it's about what you get for a cloth transmute with 4 day cooldown |
| 18:39.20 | NeoTron | maybe 10g? |
| 18:39.22 | KarlThePagan | i never sell my mutes out of guild because the price is too low |
| 18:39.24 | Gagorian | 5g is just pure shit.. It was 5g before TBC |
| 18:39.34 | Gagorian | And money value has gone down to about 1/3 |
| 18:39.37 | KarlThePagan | I can make 15g per day going from earth -> water or water -> air |
| 18:39.42 | Gagorian | so it should be at least 15g |
| 18:39.46 | KarlThePagan | agree |
| 18:39.52 | nymbia | screw making 5g.. pop a earth -> water and make 10 at least |
| 18:39.54 | NeoTron | you try to sell at 15g |
| 18:40.09 | NeoTron | I was offered a primal transmute for free |
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| 18:40.12 | KarlThePagan | noone would buy it... so I just sell primals instead :P |
| 18:40.12 | NeoTron | from a random person |
| 18:40.15 | Amadeo | Alchemy sucks in general, you just turn into a guild slave :P |
| 18:40.17 | NeoTron | tipped a bit, gave them the mats |
| 18:40.23 | NeoTron | and they had a chance of getting double result |
| 18:40.33 | KarlThePagan | actually chance of a 4x result |
| 18:40.37 | NeoTron | and gem cutting |
| 18:40.39 | KarlThePagan | alchemists who need to learn 2 farm |
| 18:40.46 | Gagorian | Yes because people are retards and don't have any business skills.. So basically I just don't sell transmutes at all |
| 18:40.54 | NeoTron | that's also basically a no profit proposition |
| 18:40.57 | NeoTron | that's just how this works |
| 18:41.13 | NeoTron | why pay 15g for a primal transmute when you can just sell what you have and buy another one for the same price? |
| 18:41.17 | NeoTron | that's dumb |
| 18:41.21 | Kirkburn|afk | Watskeburt! (/me looks for a reaction) |
| 18:41.21 | KarlThePagan | those people will eventually wise up when I have my epic flying mount and they can't crack 1kg |
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| 18:41.45 | KarlThePagan | supply will eventually falter... just watch |
| 18:41.56 | kenlyric | dumb for crafters, awesome for me. |
| 18:41.57 | NeoTron | I already have mine |
| 18:42.00 | kebinusan | yeah who every got the idea that alchemists make money is delusional ... if you want money pick up a gathering profession ore and herbs sell wonderfully |
| 18:42.20 | NeoTron | and that sure wasn't because of trying to sell e mostly useless service like primal transmutes (primal might is the only one worth doing for a random person) |
| 18:42.31 | kenlyric | mining + herblaism + epic mount = $$$$$ |
| 18:42.33 | NeoTron | no profession really makes any significant money |
| 18:42.35 | KarlThePagan | tru |
| 18:42.42 | KarlThePagan | to the mining & herbing |
| 18:42.45 | NeoTron | I had mining + skinning (which was amazingly profitable) |
| 18:42.50 | kebinusan | I'll probably respec transmute mastery then maybe with some lucky x5 procs alchemy will be worthwhile |
| 18:42.55 | NeoTron | and sold EVERYTHING including rep items |
| 18:42.58 | kenlyric | skinning is awesome if you can kill things quickly. |
| 18:43.08 | NeoTron | didn't take very long - like a week or so after hitting 70 already over 3k gold |
| 18:43.09 | kenlyric | I had skiinning while I was still questing and shadow. |
| 18:43.19 | KarlThePagan | the problem with any gathering profession is that you need an epic flyer to make it work too well |
| 18:43.27 | NeoTron | and I started the character a month and ahalf before BC with no prior resources (reroll) |
| 18:43.31 | NeoTron | so.. it's not hard |
| 18:43.33 | KarlThePagan | otherwise you're competing with people who have an epic flyer |
| 18:43.49 | NeoTron | KarlThePagan: except if you're a rogue or druid and stealth farmi nstances.. at least until 2.1 |
| 18:44.08 | kebinusan | why is that changing in 2.1? |
| 18:44.08 | nymbia | mining was an insane amount of money when all those people were leveling jeweling |
| 18:44.11 | NeoTron | I made 150g per hour just from leather/spiderweb from solo-clearing black morass |
| 18:44.15 | KarlThePagan | good thing i rolled the wrong class to make money huh? |
| 18:44.32 | NeoTron | nymbia: yeah it was incredibly profitabl for me. fel iron for 40g a stack! whee |
| 18:44.45 | NeoTron | kebinusan: they are making you aggro mobs nearby if you mine |
| 18:44.50 | kebinusan | yeah, or just prospect it yourself and sell gems |
| 18:44.54 | kebinusan | NeoTron: ah neat |
| 18:44.55 | NeoTron | not sure what the radius is but I gather that will cause issues in instances |
| 18:45.18 | KarlThePagan | I'm just glad I got my arcanite fishing pole back before fishing was en-vogue |
| 18:45.19 | NeoTron | it's kind of a bummer because it reduces the value of flying mounts for mining |
| 18:45.23 | NeoTron | since you still have to clear mobs |
| 18:45.32 | NeoTron | but it gives non-fliers more of a chance too I guess |
| 18:45.32 | KarlThePagan | in the last 3 weeks the derby has had like 5x normal participants on KJ |
| 18:45.47 | kenlyric | NeoTron: yup, those lazy fuckers without epic mounts bitched. |
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| 18:46.16 | NeoTron | kenlyric: not so much epic vs normal flying mount |
| 18:46.23 | NeoTron | since both will suffer the same area aggro |
| 18:46.26 | kenlyric | though, to be fair, mining nodes were frequently much easier to get to than herb nodes. |
| 18:46.27 | NeoTron | it's more flying mount vs ground mount |
| 18:46.34 | kenlyric | so moving them closer to mobs makes sense to me. |
| 18:46.46 | NeoTron | kenlyric: the flipside being mining nodes hardly ever were in the areas you quested making levelling it harder |
| 18:46.59 | kenlyric | right... they're always at the edges. |
| 18:47.03 | NeoTron | the move isn't an issue but aggroing who knows how large area of mobs is a bit weird |
| 18:47.15 | kenlyric | which is why pre-tbc every alt I had was skining/herbalism. |
| 18:47.16 | NeoTron | until I learned of the dark portal mining area I had hell of a time levelling |
| 18:47.27 | NeoTron | so my hunter.. is mining/skinner |
| 18:47.34 | NeoTron | that's why I'm levelling her to begin with |
| 18:47.34 | kenlyric | now they're all mining/skinner. |
| 18:47.41 | NeoTron | well and because hunters are fun and I hate just having one 70 |
| 18:47.41 | kenlyric | because mining is profitable from day one. |
| 18:47.48 | NeoTron | heal |
| 18:47.50 | NeoTron | herbalism isn't |
| 18:47.53 | NeoTron | but I want herbs at 70 |
| 18:47.59 | kenlyric | you can't sell silverleaf for crap, but omg copper ore is awesome. |
| 18:48.05 | KarlThePagan | hehe |
| 18:48.10 | NeoTron | trying to sell it for 3g a pop |
| 18:48.12 | NeoTron | we'll se ehow taht goes |
| 18:48.22 | NeoTron | considering theer was NO copper ore OR bars on the AH... |
| 18:48.32 | kenlyric | I just wish you could flush a mining node in one hit, like you can with herbalism. |
| 18:48.34 | NeoTron | I made a mistake though |
| 18:48.41 | NeoTron | found a nice blue cloak which was a nice upgrade |
| 18:48.43 | NeoTron | sta/agi one |
| 18:48.46 | NeoTron | equipped it.. |
| 18:48.46 | kenlyric | I thought that was always the tradeoff to the nodes being further from mobs. |
| 18:49.08 | NeoTron | and realized it was leevl 19 and an uber twink cloak worth maybe 40-60g |
| 18:49.15 | kenlyric | heh. |
| 18:49.18 | kenlyric | screw twinks :) |
| 18:49.22 | kenlyric | you needed it more. |
| 18:49.23 | NeoTron | it's useful to me |
| 18:49.32 | NeoTron | and it's not like 50g is an issue nowadays |
| 18:49.42 | NeoTron | I can get that in 20 minutes farming primal water |
| 18:49.46 | NeoTron | still |
| 18:49.59 | NeoTron | btw cloaks look raally funny on dranei females |
| 18:50.05 | NeoTron | they wiggle their rear in a weird way |
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| 18:57.34 | Fin | http://thegoodreverend.blogspot.com/2005/07/cat-killing.html |
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| 18:59.34 | vhaarr | hahaha fin |
| 18:59.40 | vhaarr | "This means that the average American man can masturbate regularly for 22.5 years before he is responsible for the death of a single kitten." |
| 18:59.43 | vhaarr | lovely conclusion |
| 19:00.46 | chutwig | i know i'll sleep better tonight knowing that |
| 19:01.22 | kenlyric | how often is "regularly"? |
| 19:01.33 | chutwig | assumes once every day and a half |
| 19:01.42 | kenlyric | oh god, those poor cats. |
| 19:01.49 | ckknight | hehe, lol |
| 19:04.36 | Kaelten | do you guys hate java? |
| 19:04.46 | Kaelten | or rather java apps? |
| 19:04.54 | nevcairiel | depends. |
| 19:05.01 | nevcairiel | ive seen alot of crappy java apps i hate |
| 19:05.25 | Hotphoenix | java is a really big memoryhog overall |
| 19:05.30 | Kaelten | we'll we're tossing around rewriting wau in java to gain mac usage. |
| 19:05.31 | Hjalte | Java is slow when I've got wow running :( |
| 19:05.33 | Kaelten | but we're not sure |
| 19:05.45 | nevcairiel | that reminds me |
| 19:05.52 | nevcairiel | i wanted to ping you to offer my help with that :P |
| 19:06.11 | Kaelten | my name at gmail.com on msn |
| 19:06.26 | KarlThePagan | Kaelten, if you are going to do java talk to me |
| 19:06.31 | vhaarr | Kaelten: How about just doing it in Mono? |
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| 19:07.02 | chutwig | Kaelten: apple's abandoning the cocoa-java bindings |
| 19:07.13 | chutwig | well, obsoleting |
| 19:07.18 | chutwig | it's not being updated after 10.4 |
| 19:07.21 | Kaelten | in favor of anything? |
| 19:07.24 | chutwig | nope |
| 19:07.27 | chutwig | just letting it go |
| 19:07.39 | CIA-31 | 03roartindon * r34209 10Aloft/ (Aloft.lua Modules/ShortGuildData.lua): |
| 19:07.39 | CIA-31 | Aloft |
| 19:07.39 | CIA-31 | - When GetTargetNameplate() is called and doesn't succeed the quick check, make it so that it is much more likely to on successive calls |
| 19:07.54 | KarlThePagan | I take every bit of FUD with a grain of salt |
| 19:08.20 | nevcairiel | wonder if my MSN still works |
| 19:08.23 | nevcairiel | been some time :P |
| 19:09.03 | chutwig | so it'd have to be done with swing or awt or whatever crap java uses for GUI toolkit |
| 19:09.19 | vhaarr | swt could work |
| 19:09.33 | KarlThePagan | that's Cocoa-Java bridge... not Java's entire GUI support... |
| 19:09.35 | vhaarr | but I'd really rather it was just ported down to Monos .NET API coverage |
| 19:09.44 | chutwig | that's what i said, karl |
| 19:09.56 | chutwig | mono is fine but it's not well-supported on OS X |
| 19:10.09 | KarlThePagan | then how exactly does that impact a possible Java WAU implementation? |
| 19:10.11 | KarlThePagan | FUD |
| 19:10.16 | chutwig | "FUD"? |
| 19:10.22 | vhaarr | fear, uncertainty, doubt |
| 19:10.27 | chutwig | i know what it means |
| 19:10.38 | vhaarr | KarlThePagan: ckknight is american, all americans spread FUD, you just have to ignore it |
| 19:10.51 | KarlThePagan | ;) |
| 19:11.00 | ckknight | wait, what? |
| 19:11.09 | chutwig | i don't understand how it applies to this situation when everything i said is factual |
| 19:11.09 | vhaarr | :P |
| 19:11.11 | Kaelten | we're looking at one of the eclipse based gui libraries |
| 19:11.19 | vhaarr | SWT, Kaelten |
| 19:11.20 | ckknight | SWT? |
| 19:11.25 | Fisker- | hahaha |
| 19:11.38 | KarlThePagan | swt has made great progress lately |
| 19:11.41 | Fisker- | some news reporter snapped |
| 19:11.55 | Kaelten | rcp I think is what its called, but I think that uses swt |
| 19:12.14 | Fisker- | Some woman interrupted him and he told her to shut the fuck up and they showed him in a fight |
| 19:12.21 | KarlThePagan | I personally don't do a lot of GUI stuff, and we're fairly entrenched in swing |
| 19:12.48 | Kaelten | hrm larger file size, |
| 19:12.51 | JoshBorke | Kaelten: i just had a WONDERFUL idea |
| 19:12.53 | KarlThePagan | SWT used to have very big cross-platform issues, but IBM/Eclipse has done an ok job resolving most of them from what I've experienced |
| 19:12.55 | Kaelten | don't know we're looking at options. |
| 19:13.00 | Kaelten | Josh you scare me |
| 19:13.06 | JoshBorke | Kaelten: it happens |
| 19:13.16 | chutwig | nothing short of cocoa will feel native on OS X so just go with whatever's easiest to code with |
| 19:13.18 | JoshBorke | Kaelten: only generate zips for new tags! |
| 19:13.18 | Hjalte | Elkano, ping |
| 19:13.31 | JoshBorke | Kaelten: then you can force proper release cycles! |
| 19:13.31 | Elkano | pong |
| 19:13.51 | Kaelten | Josh lol, on the new website we're going to force stuff like that but thats a ways off still |
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| 19:14.10 | JoshBorke | i should go make that change to my own repository |
| 19:14.13 | JoshBorke | but i can't be bothered :-/ |
| 19:14.15 | KarlThePagan | the Aqua look and feel for Java is fairly problematic... it would be best to avoid it anyways IMO |
| 19:14.23 | Hjalte | Elkano, is it possible you could add an option to hide the text from ItemDBfu? |
| 19:14.30 | chutwig | better than the metal look |
| 19:14.49 | KarlThePagan | a matter of opinion, rather than fact if you're sticking to the facts chutwig |
| 19:15.01 | chutwig | KarlThePagan: are you going to call that FUD too? |
| 19:15.14 | KarlThePagan | it quacks like a duck |
| 19:15.32 | chutwig | it's like watching a 3-year-old that just learned a bad word and applies it to everything |
| 19:16.35 | KarlThePagan | at any rate, safe to assume chut won't be participating in the Java project, but if you are interested in any kind of a spike solution or proof of concept Kaelten I would be glad to help in any way possible |
| 19:16.42 | Elkano | Hjalte, that would require saved variables which I din't want to do since they would have no other benefit atm |
| 19:17.06 | Hjalte | Elkano, oh.. It just annoys me a bit to have to see the text, but it's not urgent :) |
| 19:17.23 | KarlThePagan | I can at least give you some advice on which API's to focus on for XML parsing and HTTP |
| 19:17.47 | Elkano | well, on the other hand it somewhat tells you that other people are using it ;) |
| 19:18.03 | Kaelten | KarlThePagan: don't I have you on msn? |
| 19:18.20 | chutwig | you shouldn't spread FUD about me karl |
| 19:18.43 | Hjalte | Elkano, what is the difference by the way between safe and known items? Can i see all in the item browser window? |
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| 19:18.57 | KarlThePagan | Kaelten, possibly but having switched to vista I gotta re-import my firends (i'm lazy) |
| 19:19.09 | KarlThePagan | i'll set it up right now |
| 19:19.12 | Kaelten | whats your addy? |
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| 19:20.00 | Elkano | Hjalte, the browser shows all known items while those not known as safe are marked red. safe items have been seen from the server this session while known have been mined from your cache. so safe items are known as safe for linking |
| 19:21.05 | Hjalte | Elkano, I see :) |
| 19:21.15 | ckknight | vhaarr: Mono's cocoa support is very bad currently, as well as the SWF => Cocoa translation is nowhere near complete |
| 19:21.25 | ckknight | there's a google SoC project for that |
| 19:21.33 | chutwig | using mono would essentially require using X11 at this stage |
| 19:21.41 | ckknight | Kemayo: ping |
| 19:21.45 | vhaarr | ckknight: yeah, I know |
| 19:22.52 | Fisker- | cocoa? |
| 19:22.53 | Fisker- | mmmm |
| 19:23.52 | Amadeo | mono cocoa puts you to sleep |
| 19:26.37 | Fin | WANT: http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=4f5_1177816318 |
| 19:27.51 | Fin | hey don't fuck with me man! I'm going to have a giant rideable mechanical spider one day and THEN YOU'LL BE SORRY |
| 19:28.02 | Fin | YEAH! |
| 19:28.47 | dotted | no |
| 19:29.58 | Chompers | Elkano: i guess i'll never be able to import my lootlink database to Itemdb? |
| 19:30.24 | Elkano | Chompers, honestly, Lootlink sucks for having it's own DB... |
| 19:30.41 | Chompers | yeah, i've heard alot of people say its really inefficent |
| 19:31.28 | Elkano | ItemDB doesn't give a damn about suffixes like "... of the monkey" reducing Lootlink data to only a fraction. so most of the stuff stored in lootlink will show up in ItemDB anyways |
| 19:32.06 | Elkano | and to get more items into your cache, feel free to use AtlasLoot or PT3Browser to querry the server for items |
| 19:32.42 | CIA-31 | 03teomyr * r34210 10ClearFont2/ (ClearFont2.toc Core.lua): ClearFont2: added deDE locale |
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| 19:34.25 | Saladin | use ludwig ^^ |
| 19:35.01 | Fisker- | OLD NEWS: Fin |
| 19:35.15 | Saladin | que? |
| 19:35.42 | Saladin | nvm ^^ |
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| 19:36.51 | Bam__ | what's the policy for !!!StandaloneLibs? Does a lib have to be "accepted" so to speak? Or should I just add my lib folder there? |
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| 19:38.21 | CIA-31 | 03funkydude * r34211 10BigWigs/SC/Leotheras.lua: |
| 19:38.21 | CIA-31 | BigWigs: SC/Leotheras: |
| 19:38.21 | CIA-31 | - throttle ww to 10 seconds |
| 19:40.59 | CIA-31 | 03kirkburn * r34212 10ClearFont2/Core.lua: ClearFont2: Updated an option's text for simplicity |
| 19:42.21 | Fisker- | Elkano |
| 19:42.24 | Fisker- | want some of my jizz? |
| 19:42.40 | Elkano | hmmm... not really... |
| 19:42.41 | Kirkburn|afk | Bam__, I would suggest getting agreement from at least one or two of the prominent Ace members at least |
| 19:43.19 | Bam__ | fine with me |
| 19:43.22 | Fisker- | you're no fun Elkano |
| 19:44.27 | CIA-31 | 03kirkburn * r34213 10ClearFont2/Changelog.txt: ClearFont2: Updated list of translations |
| 19:44.59 | Fin | we edge ever closer to the LibPrat |
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| 19:46.12 | Fisker- | http://img.4chan.org/b/src/1178046887055.jpg <- i want in on those parties |
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| 19:46.37 | Fin | hah, good one Fisker- |
| 19:46.57 | Fin | that is so obviously you in the top right corner |
| 19:47.13 | Fin | can't hide behind a pair of pigtails mate |
| 19:47.29 | Fin | did you know |
| 19:47.50 | Fin | it's more expensive to send a package from London to Manchester delivery |
| 19:47.52 | Fisker- | :( |
| 19:48.05 | Mikk | Bam__: Depends greatly on how commonly used your library is. If it's in just one or two addons, it's probably not a good idea to put it in standalonelibs. |
| 19:48.06 | Fin | than it is to get a ton of London waste shipped to Shanghai |
| 19:48.42 | Bam__ | Mikk: well it's about zero right now :) |
| 19:49.37 | Bam__ | :P |
| 19:49.55 | CIA-31 | 03kergoth * r34214 10kLagmeter/: .Cleanup my old stuff. |
| 19:50.38 | Ominous | kergoth: whats that? |
| 19:50.41 | Mikk | (Disclaimer: I'm not what you'd call "a prominant ace member". I'm just an opinionated old sod that's been programming for 22 years :-P) |
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| 19:51.01 | Bam__ | hehe |
| 19:51.01 | kergoth | an old one of those addons that displayed your lag in the casting bar, but we have rapidcast now |
| 19:51.26 | kergoth | so deleting some of my old crap that doesnt need to be there |
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| 19:52.05 | Mikk | Hmm... is there an addon that does what itemrack does for equipment slots? i.e. pop out and show what can be equipped there |
| 19:52.14 | Mikk | if so i can toss IR out and go closegnome |
| 19:52.15 | kergoth | yeah |
| 19:52.15 | Mikk | closet* |
| 19:52.23 | kergoth | SwapMagic |
| 19:52.23 | Fin | god that is old |
| 19:52.36 | Fin | I SAID GOD THAT IS OLD |
| 19:52.50 | Mikk | it's not that i have anything against itemrack. but closetgnome has bank set swapping |
| 19:52.51 | Mikk | ftw! |
| 19:53.03 | Antiarc|Work | Yeah, I use ClosetGnome+SwapMagic |
| 19:53.05 | kergoth | itemrack 2.0 beta looks awfully nice, i wish he'd finish it |
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| 19:53.56 | Fisker- | itemrack is for kergoth |
| 19:54.49 | kergoth | itemrack 2.0's auto queue for any slot, not just trinkets like trinketmenu, is pretty sweet |
| 19:55.19 | vhaarr | yeah, someone needs to write that into a standalone addon |
| 19:55.42 | Mikk | SwapMagic |
| 19:55.44 | Mikk | obviously |
| 19:57.00 | vhaarr | indeed |
| 19:57.08 | vhaarr | moonsorrow is just slacking |
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| 19:57.14 | kergoth | hehe |
| 19:57.23 | sbu | haha |
| 19:57.25 | sbu | mt wow error every 10s |
| 19:57.27 | sbu | in magth. lair ;p |
| 19:57.43 | CIA-31 | 03funkydude * r34215 10BigWigs/SC/Leotheras.lua: |
| 19:57.43 | CIA-31 | BigWigs: SC/Leotheras: |
| 19:57.43 | CIA-31 | - fix WW cancelling on entering demon phase |
| 19:57.43 | CIA-31 | - add timer bar till inner demons spawn |
| 19:57.45 | Kirkburn|afk | Mikk, you're such an opinionated old sod! |
| 19:57.53 | kergoth | ~/ Movin' to the country, gonna eat me a lotta peaches. /~ |
| 19:58.10 | Fin | how many peaches, kergoth? |
| 19:58.12 | Fin | how many peaches for you? |
| 19:58.16 | Kirkburn|afk | You're moving to a peach farm? |
| 19:58.37 | Fin | hundreds? |
| 19:58.40 | Fin | thousands? |
| 19:58.47 | kergoth | sheesh, nobody remembers The Presidents of the USA? peaches? lump/ |
| 19:58.49 | kergoth | silly people. |
| 19:58.54 | Fin | hrm |
| 19:59.06 | Fin | *you* were supposed to say "millions of peaches"! |
| 19:59.15 | Fin | "peaches for me" |
| 19:59.20 | pastamancer | silly kergoth |
| 19:59.24 | kergoth | silly kergoth indeed |
| 19:59.42 | kergoth | i had a guild named after a pusa song |
| 19:59.46 | kergoth | Naked and Famous |
| 19:59.47 | Fin | tut is the shittest onomatopeia everf |
| 19:59.48 | Fin | -f |
| 20:01.54 | kergoth | i still own nakedandfamous.org, too bad it sounds more like a porn site than a guild domain |
| 20:02.26 | Fisker- | This was sparta :( |
| 20:02.45 | Fin | http://www.k2xl.com/games/boomshine/ # warning |
| 20:03.01 | pastamancer | kergoth: turn it into a porn site and make some money :p |
| 20:04.05 | kergoth | brilliant! |
| 20:04.14 | Elkano | turn it in to a page looking like a porn page, charge money from those not knowing what it is and let it still be a guild page |
| 20:07.38 | CIA-31 | 03kirkburn * r34216 10ClearFont2/Changelog.txt: ClearFont2: Started CF2 revision history for UI site use |
| 20:08.07 | Fisker- | i live in a trash can :( |
| 20:09.21 | Amadeo | Oscar? |
| 20:09.40 | Fisker- | nah |
| 20:09.53 | Fisker- | they finally released orcas beta 1 for installation w00t |
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| 20:25.22 | Sole | nymbia: ping |
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| 20:26.22 | CIA-31 | 03thorias * r34218 10Baggins_Outfitter/ (. Baggins_Outfitter.lua Baggins_Outfitter.toc): |
| 20:26.22 | CIA-31 | Baggins_Outfitter: initial commit |
| 20:26.22 | CIA-31 | - Adds filter for items used in Outfitter sets to Baggins. |
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| 20:26.59 | Kemayo | ckknight: Pong? |
| 20:27.47 | ckknight | Kemayo: you know the lightheaded support in QuestsFu? |
| 20:28.00 | Kemayo | I am familiar with it. |
| 20:28.05 | ckknight | if somebody puts down 12.3, 45.6 it will turn into 12, 3, 45, 6 |
| 20:28.13 | ckknight | or actually 12, 3: 45, 6 |
| 20:28.14 | ckknight | or something |
| 20:28.17 | ckknight | either way, weird |
| 20:28.53 | Kemayo | Strange. I'm getting everything entirely from LightHeaded -- it's possible that clad has tweaked things. |
| 20:29.19 | ckknight | oh |
| 20:29.20 | ckknight | hrm |
| 20:30.02 | Kemayo | Hm, yes, WoWI has LH 0.5 -- I developed off of 0.2. |
| 20:31.24 | pastamancer | I'm still looking for a german whos ip address starts with 77.x.x.x |
| 20:31.31 | pastamancer | s/whos/whose/ |
| 20:31.58 | Matrix110 | mine isnt atleast |
| 20:32.03 | pastamancer | bah, I shouldn't have corrected that |
| 20:32.23 | Matrix110 | iam always 8X. or 217 or 224. |
| 20:32.40 | Kemayo | ckknight: I can't do anything about it for at least another 9 hours. (I'm at work, and then I have to write a paper.) |
| 20:32.40 | Matrix110 | and these IP adresses goto like 85% of germany |
| 20:32.47 | ckknight | ah, okay |
| 20:32.52 | ckknight | just letting you know |
| 20:33.00 | Kemayo | Thanks for the heads up. :D |
| 20:33.47 | Matrix110 | But pastamance get the IP from the person in forums ask ripe.net from which provider it is |
| 20:35.27 | Matrix110 | then its quite easy to get ppl with such a IP adress normally |
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| 20:36.04 | pastamancer | Matrix110: I asked for a traceroute |
| 20:36.04 | pastamancer | we'll see if I get it or not |
| 20:36.09 | Matrix110 | kk |
| 20:36.36 | Matrix110 | I bet its Telia fucking up inbetween |
| 20:36.44 | Matrix110 | always when i have routing problems its telia |
| 20:36.45 | Matrix110 | -.- |
| 20:46.58 | CIA-31 | 03ulic * r34219 10LittleWigs/ (11 files in 3 dirs): LittleWigs: Added Exarch Maladaar, Warlord Kalithresh, and Mekgineer Steamrigger |
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| 20:52.59 | cotangent | In pitbull is there still a way to get a different border when you target an elite mob? It was the default at one point but I couldn't find an option for it this weekend. |
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| 20:57.40 | ckknight | global options |
| 20:58.47 | ckknight | cya all, going to school |
| 20:58.50 | cotangent | k thanks I'll look harder |
| 21:00.14 | CIA-31 | 03funkydude * r34220 10BigWigs/ (Karazhan/Nightbane.lua SC/Leotheras.lua): BigWigs: bugfixes |
| 21:02.00 | CIA-31 | 03funkydude * r34221 10BigWigs/SC/Leotheras.lua: BigWigs: SC/Leotheras: bugfix |
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| 21:04.05 | td-work | Antiarc, you around? |
| 21:08.57 | td-work | nyud.net doesnt seem to exist, very weird. |
| 21:09.17 | td-work | oh wait |
| 21:10.56 | td-work | Antiarc|Work, you there? :) |
| 21:11.10 | TheKarn | Antiarc|Work, ping! |
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| 21:25.54 | CIA-31 | 03evilelvis * r34222 10eePanels/ (core.lua localization.enUS.lua): eePanels: added more options |
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| 21:37.41 | ckknight | hey all |
| 21:39.58 | ckknight | forgot my headphones today |
| 21:40.03 | ckknight | lameness |
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| 21:45.09 | Herio | hmm |
| 21:45.56 | Herio | I can't seem to find a dogtag conditional if the health can be determined properly =/ |
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| 21:50.34 | Megalon | is there a way to prevent the mouseover alpha change on the chatframes? |
| 21:52.32 | vodrin- | unregister the event? |
| 21:52.36 | undu | locking might work, or setting a background color |
| 21:52.50 | CIA-31 | 03funkydude * r34223 10BigWigs/SC/Leotheras.lua: BigWigs: Sc/Leotheras: bugfix |
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| 21:53.35 | Bam__ | Megalon: DEFAULT_CHATFRAME_ALPHA = 0 |
| 21:54.25 | Megalon | ZOMG |
| 21:54.31 | Megalon | marry me! |
| 21:54.42 | Bam__ | erm :P |
| 21:55.55 | ckknight | Herio: if it's in MobHealth db, you mean? |
| 21:56.04 | ckknight | Herio: yea, never wrote that. You can feel free to |
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| 21:56.59 | Herio | okay |
| 21:57.28 | Megalon | Bam__: this isn't saved between sessions? |
| 21:57.31 | Herio | I'll also put in shyintellectualhp |
| 21:57.40 | ckknight | what'd that do? |
| 21:57.40 | Herio | blank if it isn't sure =P |
| 21:57.47 | Bam__ | Megalon: no :/ |
| 21:57.55 | Herio | errr |
| 21:58.00 | Herio | yeah |
| 21:58.12 | Herio | blank until it can get a mob health reading |
| 21:58.13 | ckknight | Herio: probably easiest as an alias |
| 21:58.24 | Herio | what do you mean? =/ |
| 21:58.39 | ckknight | aliases are commands that translate into other sequences |
| 21:58.46 | Herio | ah |
| 22:01.38 | Herio | I can't seem to find a way to achieve that result with the available tags and conditionals |
| 22:02.19 | ckknight | because I was expecting you to write the conditional |
| 22:02.39 | Herio | ha.. ha! |
| 22:02.41 | Herio | okay |
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| 22:10.41 | hypetech | When is the 2.1 patch supposed to come live? I thought it was scheduled for today |
| 22:10.58 | NightHawkTheSane | nope |
| 22:11.02 | Megalon | there will be another week |
| 22:11.05 | NightHawkTheSane | probably a couple weeks at the earliest |
| 22:11.08 | Megalon | to test the new mongoose glowing effect |
| 22:11.20 | hypetech | wow |
| 22:11.20 | Megalon | if the glow is ok, 2.1 will go live :P |
| 22:11.23 | vodrin- | europe has extended maintenance tonight =s |
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| 22:11.39 | hypetech | a lot of rogues on my server went ahead and dropped imp sap last night anticipating the patch |
| 22:11.40 | hypetech | heh |
| 22:11.48 | NightHawkTheSane | that was kind of silly |
| 22:11.51 | hypetech | I agree |
| 22:12.00 | cotangent | fear there wasn't any good sign that the patch would be today |
| 22:12.13 | cotangent | wow hyjal hasn't even been on the ptr a week yet |
| 22:12.15 | hypetech | seemed to be the rumor on our realm |
| 22:12.31 | NightHawkTheSane | there were, in fact, rather explicit statements that it -wouldnt- be today |
| 22:12.31 | vodrin- | ye but wonder what our extended maintenance is for |
| 22:12.31 | evl | who the hell needs imp sap anyway |
| 22:12.31 | evl | l2p i say |
| 22:12.31 | hypetech | haha |
| 22:12.37 | hypetech | mage CC ftw :p |
| 22:12.38 | NightHawkTheSane | vodrin-: probably maintenence. :P |
| 22:12.43 | vodrin- | Please note that all European realms will be offline from 03:00 until 11:00 |
| 22:12.46 | evl | just use sprint or evasion alternate pulls |
| 22:12.52 | evl | and blind if there's even more trouble |
| 22:12.53 | vodrin- | nah its the extended message ;p |
| 22:13.09 | NightHawkTheSane | so, its.. extended maintenance? :P |
| 22:13.16 | vodrin- | although that is a short time for patch ye |
| 22:13.20 | NightHawkTheSane | sometimes a cigar really is just a cigar :P |
| 22:13.47 | vodrin- | i'm just being hopeful :< |
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| 22:14.12 | NightHawkTheSane | yeah, i understand. I'm less excited about the patch, as its more or less a nerf for me :P |
| 22:15.38 | vodrin- | well i lose my 5% from priests sw |
| 22:15.49 | vodrin- | but more interested in the boss tuning / consumable changes |
| 22:16.15 | NightHawkTheSane | yeah. if i were raiding, or an alchemist, i'd be a lot more interested in that |
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| 22:21.18 | hypetech | somebody was saying that the time for all transmutes was going to be reduced, but all that I saw in the notes was that the diamond transmutes were going to be set to 1 day like the rest of them. Anybody know about this? |
| 22:22.09 | NightHawkTheSane | well, there's that |
| 22:22.09 | JoshBorke | hypetech: it was just reduced enough so that you can transmute at the same tie |
| 22:22.10 | ZealotOnAStick | There's a couple of transmutes that are having a couple of hours reduced. |
| 22:22.19 | NightHawkTheSane | but they're also reducing all cooldowns longer than 24 hours by 1 hour |
| 22:22.20 | hypetech | transmute at the same time? |
| 22:22.21 | JoshBorke | hypetech: instead of having to push the time back an hour each time |
| 22:22.29 | Herio | god I'm bad at SVN |
| 22:22.44 | hypetech | o |
| 22:22.47 | hypetech | same time every day |
| 22:22.48 | hypetech | got it |
| 22:22.53 | cotangent | no so that if you trans at 12:01 on day one you can do it again on day two at 12:01 not 12:02 |
| 22:23.08 | cotangent | other wise after 60 days you're doing it an hour later etc |
| 22:23.12 | hypetech | right |
| 22:23.27 | NightHawkTheSane | basically you dont lose your tradeskill cooldowns due to shifting times |
| 22:23.36 | hypetech | wish they'd lower cloth to 2 days -.- |
| 22:23.41 | hypetech | 4 days is excessive |
| 22:23.59 | hypetech | tailoring/alch here, my life revolves around cooldowns |
| 22:24.38 | shieldb | hypetech, but you get two of whatever cloth you're spec'd into, right? |
| 22:24.43 | hypetech | right |
| 22:25.01 | nevcairiel | so you basicly spec half-cooldown and half-mats |
| 22:25.02 | nevcairiel | that good :) |
| 22:25.08 | hypetech | but when it takes 14 shadowcloth to make a vest.... |
| 22:25.15 | hypetech | that's still 28 days if you don't buy any extra |
| 22:25.22 | nevcairiel | true |
| 22:25.28 | nevcairiel | but have you looked at the stats? |
| 22:25.46 | hypetech | well yes |
| 22:26.14 | hypetech | 2/3 shadowweave set right now |
| 22:26.14 | nevcairiel | all that craft stuff is superior to t4 or sometimes even t5 |
| 22:26.23 | shieldb | as having jewelcrafting / enchanting on my main, I would gladly trade a linear progression scale where X amount of time/gold = tier5 equivalent (or better) gear vs. almost any other method of obtaining it |
| 22:26.40 | hypetech | well spellstrike is getting nerfed from what I've heard. Well modified anyway, not sure about nerfed. Less damage, more int |
| 22:26.59 | NightHawkTheSane | so's shadoweave isnt it? |
| 22:27.05 | hypetech | not as far as I can tell |
| 22:27.20 | hypetech | but I don't see the spellstrike stat change in the PTR notes, so I'm not sure where the information is from |
| 22:27.24 | hypetech | it is on the forums though |
| 22:27.27 | hypetech | multiple forums |
| 22:27.28 | hypetech | heh |
| 22:27.29 | NightHawkTheSane | Someone here mentioned it was nerfed on the PTR, but i dont know for sure |
| 22:27.44 | nymbia | check the general forums |
| 22:27.51 | shieldb | it's something like -33 damage across all the pieces and then +8 int or somesuch |
| 22:27.53 | nymbia | they already posted that the nerf isnt going live |
| 22:27.55 | hypetech | it's in the mage forums for sure |
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| 22:28.12 | NightHawkTheSane | nymbia: that would require me to care :P |
| 22:28.25 | hypetech | ya, a lot of people would be upset to see any stat change in something they took that long to craft |
| 22:28.53 | nymbia | it's way the hell overpowered |
| 22:29.05 | hypetech | meh |
| 22:29.11 | JoshBorke | shadoweave is way over powered |
| 22:29.14 | hypetech | you do lose quite a bit of stats |
| 22:29.15 | nymbia | but hey, everyone can level tailoring ;) |
| 22:29.33 | hypetech | and it's only for one class of magic, not ALL magic |
| 22:29.39 | JoshBorke | 2 classes |
| 22:29.41 | NightHawkTheSane | I dont mind powerful tailoring sets. |
| 22:29.44 | hypetech | so my frost is powerful, but if I have to use fire it's like 100 less |
| 22:29.52 | NightHawkTheSane | I just -really- mind that there's nothign remotely comparable for leatherworking |
| 22:29.56 | hypetech | well nobody can cast frost AND shadow |
| 22:30.15 | hypetech | so it's only useful for one class |
| 22:30.16 | JoshBorke | i mind the powerful tailoring set. i think it's too powerful and blizzard would have done well to implement it |
| 22:30.16 | nymbia | pft, not like your frost line gets interrupted that often |
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| 22:30.30 | JoshBorke | disclaimer: i am a shadow priest grinding for the set |
| 22:30.39 | hypetech | actually I get counterspelled a lot by outland mobs it seems |
| 22:30.40 | JoshBorke | despite the nerf it's still on par with T4/T5 |
| 22:30.53 | nymbia | JoshBorke: its not nerfed |
| 22:31.03 | NightHawkTheSane | sadly |
| 22:31.03 | ZealotOnAStick | they're reverting the nerf. |
| 22:31.06 | JoshBorke | nymbia: i know, but i think it should have been |
| 22:31.10 | hypetech | it's on par as the 3/3, but if you have full t4 or t5, the tier sets are better for the bonuses |
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| 22:31.25 | JoshBorke | not for shadow priests |
| 22:31.26 | nymbia | hypetech: hell no they arent. |
| 22:31.28 | hypetech | uninterruptable frostbolt/fireball are you kidding? I'll take that over my 3/3 shadowweave any day |
| 22:31.36 | Killmore | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=100430525&sid=1 |
| 22:31.45 | Herio | ckknight: there ya go, might want to check that, but it works for me |
| 22:31.46 | vodrin- | you know.. t6 for affliction warlocks wasn't an improvement in dps |
| 22:31.50 | vodrin- | in the shadoweave slots |
| 22:31.54 | JoshBorke | Killmore: yes, we know |
| 22:31.59 | hypetech | vodrin- but it has wings -.- |
| 22:32.03 | nymbia | hypetech: well for one thing, you can be wearing 2/5 t4 and 3/3 shadowweave at the same time.. |
| 22:32.10 | Herio | ( there I go rather, I wanted the functionality not you =P) |
| 22:32.10 | hypetech | that's true nymbia |
| 22:32.26 | shieldb | hypetech, ahh but there's the catch - you can have the nifty wings but then you have to have the stupid helm turned on, too ;) |
| 22:32.31 | vodrin- | hypetech; it also has loooads of stam so i'd wear it for 10-20dps less ;p |
| 22:32.40 | vodrin- | however, its silly that they were comparable |
| 22:32.40 | hypetech | well they are upgrading t5 and above anyway |
| 22:32.56 | vodrin- | no, the ptr t5/6 |
| 22:33.09 | vodrin- | compared to frozen shadoweave for an affliction warlock |
| 22:33.11 | hypetech | nobody is going to be wearing 3/3 shadowweave when they have the choice for t5 |
| 22:33.17 | vodrin- | are not an upgrade in pure dps |
| 22:33.26 | ckknight | Herio: ah, good enough |
| 22:33.34 | nymbia | hypetech: it's better for pve, perioid |
| 22:33.37 | JoshBorke | hypetech: i will |
| 22:33.37 | vodrin- | hypetech check nihilum locks/priests ? |
| 22:33.39 | ckknight | not great, though |
| 22:33.44 | vodrin- | they clearly have access to tier5 |
| 22:33.53 | vodrin- | and are still swimming around in shadoweave |
| 22:35.50 | Gagorian | one piece t5 per week per slot is hardly enough to gear up anyway.. |
| 22:38.56 | Funkeh` | did US get patched? |
| 22:39.00 | NightHawkTheSane | no |
| 22:39.06 | Funkeh` | cause EU getting early maintenance for some reason |
| 22:39.30 | NightHawkTheSane | my guess is actual maintenance |
| 22:39.31 | shieldb | a lot of US realms had a notice about extra downtime due to an "infrastructure upgrade" |
| 22:39.43 | shieldb | so they may be doing the same thing on some EU realms |
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| 22:44.06 | CIA-31 | 03ominous * r34226 10FuBar_ClassTimerFu/Bars.lua: FuBar_ClassTimerFu: oops helps if i dont use self:OnClick for candybar onclick when using fubar |
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| 22:59.24 | cynyr | okay all i have a small problem, i managed to get xpbarnone moved all the way off my screen and i can't figure out how to get it back... |
| 23:03.23 | sedatedChipmunk | wow/WTF/Account/<ACCOUNTNAME>/<ServerName>/<PlayerName>/layout-cache.txt |
| 23:04.14 | sedatedChipmunk | exit to charselect and edit that manually |
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| 23:21.08 | CIA-31 | 03kaelten * r34227 10cgProfiler/ (libs/ npcs/npcs.lua raids/raids.lua): |
| 23:21.08 | CIA-31 | cgProfiler - |
| 23:21.09 | CIA-31 | - more info more info more info |
| 23:21.09 | Megalon | giev info |
| 23:21.09 | hyperChipmunk | needs more info |
| 23:21.09 | Kaelten | hehe |
| 23:21.09 | Kaelten | if I keep adding more info I'll scream |
| 23:21.09 | cynyr | hyperChipmunk: i figured it out, deleted xpbarnone.lua* |
| 23:21.09 | Megalon | need input! |
| 23:21.10 | hyperChipmunk | cynyr: yea, if the position data is in the S |
| 23:21.10 | hyperChipmunk | SV |
| 23:21.59 | ckknight | Kaelten: how hard would it be to add an svn hook? |
| 23:22.07 | Kaelten | depends |
| 23:22.15 | Kaelten | what do you want it to do? |
| 23:22.33 | Bam__ | who's sitting on the wire to the forum? :P |
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| 23:23.27 | ckknight | Kaelten: luac -p |
| 23:23.40 | ckknight | and then see if it returns 1 or 0 |
| 23:23.43 | ckknight | basically |
| 23:24.03 | Kaelten | that would be a bitch because I'd have to check it out before had I think |
| 23:24.25 | ckknight | ah |
| 23:24.29 | ckknight | lame |
| 23:25.17 | Kaelten | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:25.46 | ckknight | yes. |
| 23:25.53 | ckknight | missing commas ftl |
| 23:28.00 | break19 | here ya go I dont use em anyway |
| 23:28.05 | ckknight | lol |
| 23:28.31 | NightHawkTheSane | commas are overrated its not like they serve any grammatical purpose or anything why I just keep typing really. |
| 23:28.32 | break19 | slows down my awesomely fast 15wpm typing |
| 23:30.30 | break19 | oh boy.. my guild is bout to hit lbrs for the first time, on a post-BC server.. i've never been heh |
| 23:30.42 | ckknight | lol |
| 23:30.47 | shieldb | new server? |
| 23:30.48 | hyperChipmunk | epic |
| 23:31.00 | break19 | shieldb: ya, one of the ones opened at bc release |
| 23:31.08 | hyperChipmunk | "post-bc" |
| 23:31.37 | Bam__ | hehe... after-before-christ? |
| 23:31.52 | Megalon | that's like |
| 23:31.56 | Megalon | AD + day of his birth? :P |
| 23:31.59 | break19 | semantics lol |
| 23:32.09 | Megalon | it's like |
| 23:32.16 | Megalon | all natural numbers, including zero! |
| 23:32.24 | Bam__ | umm... it's just confusing :D |
| 23:32.34 | Megalon | :< |
| 23:39.30 | kaiden^ | hrm, previously whenever i made /tloc calls it would actually add a small icon to my minimap but it's not doing that anymore, is it something i have to turn on? |
| 23:39.44 | kaiden^ | this is via the waypoint mod for cartographer |
| 23:40.05 | kaiden^ | oh n/m haha should look more closely, there's a config panel for it :) |
| 23:40.34 | Bam__ | :P |
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| 23:55.58 | CIA-31 | 03rabbit * r34228 10BigWigs/Plugins/Bars.lua: BigWigs: Bars: Slight optimization and bugfix in :EmphasizeBar. |
| 23:56.53 | ZealotOnAStick | what bug was there with that, vhaar? |
| 23:57.02 | Sparhawke | why wont aguf load :( |
| 23:57.08 | vhaarr | I don't know, some error someone pasted |
| 23:57.13 | vhaarr | bars.lua:730 attempt to call arithmetic on local 'centerY' (a nil value) |
| 23:57.21 | vhaarr | never seen it myself, but there it is |
| 23:58.11 | vhaarr | Sparhawke: why won't you make me a sandwich? |
| 23:58.28 | pastamancer | vhaarr: sudo make me a sandwich |
| 23:58.44 | vhaarr | hehe |
| 23:58.55 | vhaarr | that's xkcd, right? |
| 23:59.01 | hyperChipmunk | yea |
| 23:59.07 | vhaarr | great comic |
