| 00:00.01 | Roartindon | and slept two |
| 00:00.06 | Roartindon | no more hunter kiting required |
| 00:00.25 | Morghus | hahaha |
| 00:00.30 | Roartindon | then I left, because it was getting late :) |
| 00:00.48 | Roartindon | hyperChipmunk: The huge HP buffs in level 60+ stuff too |
| 00:00.59 | Roartindon | Our tank on vael didn't bother with any FR gear |
| 00:02.18 | hyperChipmunk | yea, but level 60 mobs can barely hit anything level 70 |
| 00:02.27 | hyperChipmunk | doesn't even matter =P |
| 00:02.40 | Roartindon | all the bosses are considered level 73 |
| 00:02.47 | Megalon | bosses always crush you |
| 00:02.53 | Roartindon | but of course, razorgore's spawns are all lower level |
| 00:02.54 | Megalon | no matter what level you are :p |
| 00:02.55 | hyperChipmunk | yea, which is why i pointed out razorgore |
| 00:03.13 | hyperChipmunk | as being especially easy, since it's non-boss |
| 00:03.57 | Morghus | I wonder if Razor can be done by a shaman, a paladin, a druid and a warrior only. |
| 00:04.14 | Roartindon | morghus: we had one hunter kite every single dragonkin for the first ~3 mins |
| 00:04.53 | Roartindon | you'll need one person to be the controller too :) |
| 00:05.41 | Morghus | Shaman and warrior for kiting, paladin for healing and druid as controller is what I had in mind |
| 00:05.41 | Roartindon | should try sometime :) |
| 00:06.04 | Roartindon | the funniest thing |
| 00:06.07 | Roartindon | was our pug was so nub |
| 00:06.13 | Roartindon | that it took over 10 minutes after we killed razorgore |
| 00:06.17 | Roartindon | to get everyone out of the room |
| 00:06.24 | Roartindon | so that the bug where his guys keep spawning would stop |
| 00:06.56 | Morghus | Placing an earthbind totem in the dead centre of the room, and crossing that path with both kiters should make kiting a breeze, while healing barely non-existant. Alternatively using the paladin for kiting too *ponders* |
| 00:07.55 | Morghus | Roartindon: And in that time-frame, 10 minutes, you got dangerously close to turning bald in frustration? |
| 00:08.06 | Roartindon | Morghus: Something like that |
| 00:08.25 | Roartindon | Couldn't believe it'd be so hard to get 20 people out of the zone for just one moment |
| 00:08.38 | Roartindon | Some people didn't leave, some people left, then zoned back in, etc. etc. |
| 00:09.33 | Morghus | Roartindon: A pretty bright bunch of people, my guild, but they all kept nubbing out on a simple order in SSC "When water-walking, do not turn your camera in any angle down" |
| 00:09.54 | Roartindon | or left click, not right click your camera? |
| 00:10.32 | Roartindon | Morghus: Do you kill lurker with teh run-around like madmen strategy then? :) |
| 00:10.39 | Morghus | It was supposed to be a simple order, and not detailed, so that they didn't screw up :P |
| 00:11.08 | Morghus | Haven't killed Lurker yet, been lazy ;) |
| 00:12.00 | Morghus | We were stuck on Magtheridon for far too long. Seems "Click the cubes" is a difficult task for some :p |
| 00:15.31 | Amadeo | Click the cubes, sounds like a fun game |
| 00:15.39 | Amadeo | How much can I pay to do that? :P |
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| 00:17.07 | Morghus | Roartindon: You mean running around Lurker when he does the Spout? ( tired :P ) I'm keen on doing that, for some reason I'm an imbecile at the whole concept of getting out of the water :P |
| 00:18.01 | Roartindon | Morghus: Yeah, we tried that, and it's freaking hard to stay ahead of his spout rotation |
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| 00:18.26 | Amadeo | KDE4 looks nice |
| 00:18.34 | Morghus | I did it easily, but I do have a runspeed enchant |
| 00:18.39 | Morghus | KDE4? |
| 00:18.42 | Amadeo | alpha |
| 00:18.50 | Amadeo | http://www.kde.org/announcements/visualguide-4.0-alpha1.php |
| 00:19.06 | Morghus | Amadeo: Clicking cubes is really annoying, but it's the only interesting thing after first phase :P |
| 00:19.16 | Amadeo | hehe |
| 00:19.24 | Chompers | what do the cubes do? |
| 00:19.25 | Amadeo | I haven't been a Priest in years (or any other healer) |
| 00:19.30 | Amadeo | Chompers: Q-Bert |
| 00:19.33 | Chompers | i've seen them in videos but no idea what they do |
| 00:19.45 | Roartindon | chompers: They stun mag |
| 00:19.51 | Roartindon | if 5 of them are clicked at the same time |
| 00:19.57 | Chompers | oh right |
| 00:19.59 | Roartindon | (and if you don't stun him, you wipe) |
| 00:20.02 | Chompers | how long for? |
| 00:20.09 | Morghus | They banish him, and ups the damage done to him by 300% |
| 00:20.13 | Morghus | Up to 10 secs |
| 00:20.20 | Morghus | but you take 800 damage per second |
| 00:20.27 | Amadeo | Just use Rogues, stunlock!!! |
| 00:20.29 | Amadeo | haha |
| 00:20.44 | Chompers | i'd like to try mag some time |
| 00:20.51 | Amadeo | use Antiarc|Work's trick |
| 00:21.00 | Amadeo | tab-envenom-tab-envenom |
| 00:21.01 | Morghus | Mag is a frustratingly long fight =/ |
| 00:21.19 | sylvanaar | the first time i had to click a cube i moved thinking i wasnt close enough |
| 00:21.41 | Amadeo | sylvanaar: Don't you hate the lag associated with clicking sometimes? |
| 00:21.51 | sylvanaar | that was the only chance i got |
| 00:22.00 | sylvanaar | i was removed from the raiding roster |
| 00:22.09 | Amadeo | damn |
| 00:22.11 | Morghus | O.O |
| 00:22.16 | Chompers | :O |
| 00:22.21 | Chompers | for a simple mistake? |
| 00:22.40 | Morghus | I messed the click once, but that was because I got no healing :( |
| 00:23.16 | sylvanaar | my guild always would sub me out for making mistakes, so i never did anything more than 1 or 2 times |
| 00:23.22 | Amadeo | Whoa, what the hell, Saitek is a 3200 dpi mouse? |
| 00:23.31 | Chompers | they sounds like assholes |
| 00:23.43 | NightHawkTheSane | sylvanaar: wow, that's.. lame. |
| 00:24.21 | sylvanaar | yeah, like the day after, my account got hacked |
| 00:24.31 | Chompers | i guess they're quite hardcore? |
| 00:24.32 | sylvanaar | so i never gave it much thought |
| 00:24.44 | sylvanaar | yeah i guess, they are all good players |
| 00:24.59 | CIA-23 | 03caldar * r35156 10eePanels/core.lua: |
| 00:24.59 | CIA-23 | eePanels - |
| 00:24.59 | CIA-23 | Updated with suggestion from EE to polish the change I made. |
| 00:25.01 | Morghus | A well-known guild? |
| 00:25.17 | sylvanaar | on my server yes |
| 00:25.49 | Morghus | Then again, if you're known for doing 1 to 2 mistakes constantly I can assume that your reputation will build for a while. |
| 00:25.56 | sylvanaar | yep |
| 00:26.30 | sylvanaar | so every time you make a mistake its like 'o god damn not again' |
| 00:26.37 | sylvanaar | which makes you make more mistakes |
| 00:26.45 | Morghus | I knew a guy that kept doing it too, I personally wonder why he stayed so long. You don't Blast Wave kited mobs at Razorgore to slow them down for kiters. At all. |
| 00:26.57 | Morghus | ( he was rather extreme though ) |
| 00:26.58 | Morghus | :p |
| 00:27.31 | sylvanaar | i never got past 1st or 2nd times on any encounter |
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| 00:28.09 | Chompers | i handed out mistletoe for the vaelastrasz fight ones |
| 00:28.16 | Chompers | *once |
| 00:28.39 | Chompers | :D |
| 00:28.42 | sylvanaar | all the pre-tbc stuff was easy i did that stuff fine |
| 00:29.33 | Morghus | I'm gonna throw a copper at you just being a bit tired of raiding, and nodding off on details, expecting things to be "straightforward" like before then. |
| 00:29.53 | Morghus | I know plenty of those too :P |
| 00:30.09 | sylvanaar | yeah, maybeso |
| 00:31.13 | Morghus | With 40 people it's alot easier to hide your personal mistake, in 25-man TBC it's close to impossible. |
| 00:31.19 | sylvanaar | healing was pretty much the same where ever you went |
| 00:32.09 | Morghus | Pre-TBC healing: Advanced Whack-A-Mole Mechanics |
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| 00:32.32 | sylvanaar | not any different, but now you gotta do other stuff |
| 00:33.01 | Tain | Yeah but TBC was really disappointing to me. They should have added Super Jump. |
| 00:33.12 | Morghus | Super Jump? =P |
| 00:33.41 | Tain | From City of Heroes. Every game would be better with Super Jump. |
| 00:33.54 | Morghus | haven't played CoH |
| 00:34.11 | Tain | I'd much rather have Super Jump than a flying mount. |
| 00:34.44 | Morghus | Please explain, what's Super Jump? =P |
| 00:34.53 | NightHawkTheSane | I'm going to wager it's a really big jump. |
| 00:35.25 | sylvanaar | tall buildings in a single bound? |
| 00:35.40 | Morghus | I keep seeing the Super Mario Jump, when you had the tail-thingy. |
| 00:36.06 | Morghus | You crash your nose into building, but still climb upwards as long as you have momentum, grinding your nose against villains/buildings |
| 00:36.11 | Morghus | *into a |
| 00:39.09 | Morghus | Tain never explained what it was! |
| 00:40.39 | Seerah_ | sylvanaar was closer ;) |
| 00:41.13 | sylvanaar | my kitten is eating my lo mein |
| 00:41.15 | CIA-23 | 03nymbia * r35157 10Quartz/ (Quartz-enUS.lua Quartz.lua): |
| 00:41.15 | CIA-23 | Quartz: |
| 00:41.15 | CIA-23 | - Add options to hide spell name text and to include the rank of the spell in the name text (in a number of ways). |
| 00:41.16 | CIA-23 | - Show the number of remaining casts of tradeskill items. |
| 00:41.16 | CIA-23 | - Fix display of tradeskill cast times ie 5:08 |
| 00:41.21 | Seerah_ | though it has been aaaaages since I played coh |
| 00:41.44 | NimbleRabit | Roartindon, you there? |
| 00:41.55 | Roartindon | NimbleRabit: what's up? |
| 00:42.08 | NimbleRabit | I can see rats |
| 00:42.15 | NimbleRabit | even though both critters and nuetrals |
| 00:42.17 | NimbleRabit | are turned off in visibility |
| 00:42.31 | Roartindon | read the first page of the Aloft thread, there's a FAQ and Known problems |
| 00:42.49 | Morghus | Roartindon, I am sad. I smell a rat, even though I am holding my nose :( |
| 00:42.55 | Morghus | ( sorry, had to :P ) |
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| 00:43.05 | NimbleRabit | wait, that's a known problem? |
| 00:43.08 | NimbleRabit | that was my favorite part! T_T |
| 00:43.10 | Roartindon | NimbleRabit: http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=5618.0 |
| 00:43.10 | sylvanaar | i was guessing there wasn't much you could do about it |
| 00:43.12 | Seerah_ | "I see dead people" I know, it was bad.... :( |
| 00:43.36 | NimbleRabit | god I hate seeing critters nameplates |
| 00:43.40 | NimbleRabit | annoys me |
| 00:43.45 | Morghus | Seerah_: ....a thousand voices cried out in pain and agony.... |
| 00:43.52 | Seerah_ | seriously |
| 00:43.57 | Seerah_ | mine was one of them :P |
| 00:44.17 | Morghus | I'm still laughing out loud. |
| 00:44.22 | Seerah_ | haha |
| 00:44.36 | Seerah_ | perl slap morghus |
| 00:44.56 | Morghus | One of those that are so bad it just flips to funny :P |
| 00:44.57 | Seerah_ | awwww |
| 00:45.12 | Morghus | purl slap Seerah_ |
| 00:45.35 | purl | ACTION slaps Seerah_, keep your grubby fingers to yourself! |
| 00:45.35 | Morghus | Atleast I got the name right! |
| 00:45.35 | Seerah_ | yeah, I can't spell gud |
| 00:45.35 | Morghus | ;) |
| 00:45.46 | Morghus | \o/ |
| 00:45.50 | Seerah_ | at least I spell Perl correctly (irt unit frames ;) ) |
| 00:46.03 | Seerah_ | pet peeve, yeah.... |
| 00:46.11 | Morghus | You forgot to capitalize the 'p' :> |
| 00:46.42 | CIA-23 | 03nymbia * r35158 10SharedMedia/ (SharedMedia.lua statusbar/Comet.tga statusbar/Falumn.tga): |
| 00:46.42 | CIA-23 | SharedMedia: |
| 00:46.42 | CIA-23 | - Add Comet and Falumn statusbar textures, courtesy of OttoDeFe on the forum. |
| 00:46.43 | Seerah_ | purl poke Morghus |
| 00:46.54 | purl | ACTION cuts down a small tree, sneaks up behind Morghus, pokes Morghus repeatedly, hilarity ensues. |
| 00:46.55 | Morghus | ( What's "irt", by the way? Oo ) |
| 00:47.05 | hyperChipmunk | ~wrt |
| 00:47.10 | purl | wrt is probably with respect to, or with regards to, or the Linksys WRT54G on which some people have successfully installed Asterisk. More information at http://www.voip-info.org/wiki-Asterisk+Linksys+WRT54G |
| 00:47.14 | hyperChipmunk | ~wtf wrt |
| 00:47.16 | Seerah_ | in regards to, yeah, hyper :) |
| 00:47.24 | Seerah_ | with regards to |
| 00:47.33 | Seerah_ | either or |
| 00:48.00 | Seerah_ | purl's too fast for me :P |
| 00:48.04 | Morghus | Ah, nice. That's one I didn't know about. Though it's a bit disrespectful to shorten something meant to honor! |
| 00:48.21 | Seerah_ | you can thank Elkano for getting it stuck in my brain ;) |
| 00:48.46 | Seerah_ | not necessarily honor, just have to do with :) |
| 00:49.52 | Morghus | Sounds wrong :p |
| 00:50.18 | Seerah_ | then we'll never hear you say it ;) |
| 00:50.22 | Morghus | It's like saying 'gratz' instead of congratulations. It's like asking for a meal, and getting a piece of corn :P |
| 00:50.31 | Seerah_ | mmmm corn |
| 00:51.28 | Morghus | I was wondering why my head felt like wooly sludge. Damned tired. Yes, it's a contradiction, no I won't change it. |
| 00:51.31 | Morghus | Good night all ;) |
| 00:51.38 | Seerah_ | nn |
| 00:59.29 | ckknight | whew, done |
| 00:59.45 | nymbia | ckknight: grats ;) |
| 01:00.55 | JoshBorke | with? |
| 01:01.31 | shieldb | JoshBorke, he poisoned your bits |
| 01:01.34 | shieldb | you only have an hour to live |
| 01:01.35 | hyperChipmunk | your mom, no doubt |
| 01:01.46 | ckknight | I made a JVM |
| 01:01.47 | ckknight | :-P |
| 01:01.48 | JoshBorke | i'm voting pants |
| 01:01.55 | JoshBorke | well gj |
| 01:02.00 | ckknight | for Computer Organization class |
| 01:02.05 | ckknight | using nothing but NAND gates |
| 01:02.09 | ckknight | build a JVM |
| 01:02.12 | ckknight | I did it :-) |
| 01:02.23 | JoshBorke | the NAND gates isn't the big deal, making a JVM is |
| 01:02.37 | ckknight | JoshBorke: can't use addition or anything. |
| 01:02.40 | ckknight | just NAND gates. |
| 01:02.44 | JoshBorke | since you can implement logic functions in NAND gates |
| 01:02.49 | ckknight | yea |
| 01:02.53 | ckknight | but it's hella complex |
| 01:03.01 | Amadeo | ckknight said hella? wtf |
| 01:03.09 | ckknight | don't make me devoice you, Amadeo |
| 01:03.27 | Amadeo | I'm not even voiced! Thwarted! |
| 01:03.44 | JoshBorke | nand gates have functional completeness (according to wikipedia) |
| 01:03.51 | *** mode/#wowace [+v Amadeo] by ckknight |
| 01:03.54 | ckknight | you are now! |
| 01:03.57 | *** mode/#wowace [-v Amadeo] by ckknight |
| 01:03.59 | ckknight | mwahaha! |
| 01:04.03 | ckknight | no voice for you |
| 01:04.07 | Amadeo | Nooooooo! (Darth Vader voice) |
| 01:04.10 | ckknight | JoshBorke: sure do |
| 01:04.25 | CIA-23 | 03nymbia * r35159 10Quartz/Quartz.lua: |
| 01:04.25 | CIA-23 | Quartz: |
| 01:04.25 | CIA-23 | - Truncate the name text if it's encroaching on the time text. (only applied if your time and name texts are anchored to opposite sides of the bar) |
| 01:04.27 | ckknight | JoshBorke: Nand gates are universal, can make any other kind of gate |
| 01:04.36 | JoshBorke | man, all this stuff reminds me of the fun part of my degree... |
| 01:04.45 | ckknight | and with Not, And, Or, and Xor, you can make a 1-bit ALU |
| 01:04.48 | Amadeo | this stuff reminds me of Stargate SG-1 |
| 01:04.51 | ckknight | and with that, you can make a k-bit ALU |
| 01:04.57 | JoshBorke | yep |
| 01:05.11 | ckknight | and using that, you have constructed the main component of a chip |
| 01:05.53 | ckknight | from there, you make a control store mechanism, a shifter, a register control, a 16-bit decoder, and a few other things |
| 01:06.05 | ckknight | and you have yourself a complete chip |
| 01:06.07 | JoshBorke | everything you'd need |
| 01:06.12 | ckknight | then just shove a JVM implementation on top of that |
| 01:06.13 | ckknight | and bam |
| 01:06.15 | JoshBorke | except memory |
| 01:06.28 | JoshBorke | and a clock :-D |
| 01:06.38 | ckknight | those are the "few other things" |
| 01:06.41 | ckknight | I had already done memory |
| 01:06.54 | ckknight | the clock was complex |
| 01:07.03 | ckknight | and it's freakishly slow in the end |
| 01:07.05 | JoshBorke | yea, i got to do that for my VLSI class |
| 01:07.07 | ckknight | cause I wrote it in python |
| 01:07.23 | ckknight | using objects |
| 01:07.41 | JoshBorke | actually laying out a chip. now THAT is an exercise in patience |
| 01:07.52 | ckknight | oh yes |
| 01:07.56 | ckknight | screw that, though |
| 01:07.59 | ckknight | let the Chinese do that |
| 01:08.13 | hyperChipmunk | that's what CEs are for |
| 01:08.35 | JoshBorke | that's why all the real money is in automated layout tools |
| 01:10.31 | Amadeo | Anyone have a theory to why my optical drives keep breaking in this PC? |
| 01:11.33 | JoshBorke | Amadeo: you put cookies in it? |
| 01:11.44 | JoshBorke | Amadeo: what about gum? |
| 01:12.08 | Amadeo | no, only use it to hold my drink...duh! |
| 01:12.18 | hyperChipmunk | you can't use a cdrw to make backup copies of your balogna |
| 01:12.30 | Amadeo | but it has a first name :( |
| 01:12.49 | Amadeo | rofl |
| 01:13.07 | Seerah_ | best when you bite holes for a face in it ;) |
| 01:13.20 | Amadeo | poor Oscar |
| 01:13.35 | Seerah_ | oh, I love to eat it every day |
| 01:13.47 | Amadeo | and if you ask me why I'll sayyyyy |
| 01:13.54 | Seerah_ | that oscar mayer has a way |
| 01:14.11 | hyperChipmunk | now i want a grilled balogna sandwich |
| 01:14.18 | hyperChipmunk | with b-a-l-o-g-n-a |
| 01:14.34 | Seerah_ | I'm supposed to be getting ready for my students tomorrow before going to Kara :P |
| 01:14.43 | Seerah_ | you guys are distracting :D |
| 01:14.57 | Amadeo | It's all of the bologna in this channel |
| 01:17.16 | Amadeo | Hm, looks like LOTRO sold well |
| 01:17.18 | Amadeo | I didn't expect that |
| 01:18.03 | Amadeo | Publisher Midway and developer Turbine have announced the game was the best-selling PC title in North America the week of April 22-28, the week of its release. |
| 01:18.03 | Amadeo | LOTR Online beat out long-running champ World of Warcraft and fellow newcomer Command & Conquer 3: Tiberium Wars to seize the top spot. |
| 01:18.08 | Amadeo | Now they just need subscribers :P |
| 01:18.51 | hyperChipmunk | WoW has been the top seller every week since its release? O_o |
| 01:19.09 | Amadeo | hyperChipmunk: I'm guessing they're comparing to launch or something |
| 01:19.18 | Amadeo | not sure |
| 01:19.20 | nymbia | naw |
| 01:19.37 | hyperChipmunk | ah |
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| 01:19.44 | nymbia | i doubt they've yet sold as many units as ybc did the first day. |
| 01:19.52 | nymbia | s/ybc/tbc/ |
| 01:19.55 | Amadeo | I'm not sure if long-running means top spot for a long time, or just a successful game |
| 01:20.22 | Amadeo | nymbia: I don't even think LOTRO is being sold in some countries that WoW is, so I agree |
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| 01:20.55 | Amadeo | By the way, I like Quartz :) |
| 01:21.11 | nymbia | thanks :) |
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| 01:25.57 | Seerah_ | done with lesson plans and off to raiding - night all! |
| 01:25.59 | Amadeo | "If you hadn’t heard, TechCrunch20, the conference which alleges to put a sense of merit back into startup conferences, has declared MC Hammer a Web2.0 “expert” and put him on the panel of judges. These judges will select amongst the bajillions of entries the rarified few who will present their wares to VC’s and industries insiders over a two day period." |
| 01:26.16 | Amadeo | Go Hammer Go Hammer Go! |
| 01:26.21 | Amadeo | hahaha |
| 01:28.03 | hyperChipmunk | that's vanilla ice, retard |
| 01:28.36 | Amadeo | hyperChipmunk: Sorry, expert :P |
| 01:28.40 | Megalon | IT'S HAMMERTIME |
| 01:28.54 | CIA-23 | 03nymbia * r35160 10Quartz/ (Buffs.lua GCD.lua Quartz.lua): |
| 01:28.54 | CIA-23 | Quartz: |
| 01:28.55 | CIA-23 | - Bugfix in GCD position setting. |
| 01:28.55 | CIA-23 | - Tweak the min/max settings for some ranges. |
| 01:28.55 | CIA-23 | - Apply the same time-text overlap fix from castbar to the buffs module (drycoded since I'm stuck on 2.0 servers doing kara at the moment, but it parses!). |
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| 01:53.44 | zoktar | anyone got some nice xart packs ? =) |
| 01:54.21 | hyperChipmunk | @!#% a spam /tell got through while i was reloading my UI |
| 01:54.49 | hyperChipmunk | spamsentry is a failure! |
| 01:55.10 | zoktar | doesnt it block everything with powerlvling and gold in text ? |
| 01:55.59 | ckknight | lol, hyperChipmunk |
| 01:56.07 | hyperChipmunk | i was reloading my UI |
| 01:56.11 | hyperChipmunk | it snuck in =\ |
| 01:56.18 | hyperChipmunk | while spamsentry wasn't loaded |
| 01:56.27 | CIA-23 | 03fleetfoot 07PTR2.1 * r35161 10DarkCandy/DarkCandy/DarkCandy.lua: |
| 01:56.27 | CIA-23 | DarkCandy |
| 01:56.27 | CIA-23 | - Added svn:keywords |
| 01:57.26 | hyperChipmunk | funny thing, it was totally unexpected; i had gotten used to not seeing them anymore |
| 01:57.36 | hyperChipmunk | and i was like, 'wut?' |
| 01:57.56 | hyperChipmunk | "when did...ohhh" |
| 01:58.12 | hyperChipmunk | then i shook my fist at the screen |
| 01:58.43 | nymbia | lol |
| 02:07.00 | CIA-23 | 03nymbia * r35162 10Quartz/ (Buffs.lua Quartz-enUS.lua): |
| 02:07.00 | CIA-23 | Quartz: Buffs: |
| 02:07.00 | CIA-23 | - Add options for coloring debuffs by dispel type. |
| 02:07.09 | Funkeh` | nymbia theres this guy on my server that keep bitching something about enemy cast bar in quartz or something |
| 02:07.24 | nymbia | rofl |
| 02:07.29 | Funkeh` | hes name is funkydude you should go slap him |
| 02:07.39 | nymbia | seriously what an asshole |
| 02:07.45 | nymbia | give it time ;) |
| 02:07.54 | Funkeh` | yeah was thinking the same |
| 02:07.57 | Funkeh` | some people, honestly |
| 02:08.36 | nymbia | i wanna put a bit more polish on the current modules before starting on the mirror bar and the target cast bar and the focus cast bar and the autoattack timer and .... |
| 02:08.42 | nymbia | ;) |
| 02:08.55 | NightHawkTheSane | autoattack timer? lol, that's ambitious. |
| 02:09.22 | nymbia | yeah.. i might not do that if it requires too much parsing and crap |
| 02:09.48 | nymbia | if it can be done easily with a single parser 3 filter, then great, otherwise, screw it. |
| 02:09.52 | NightHawkTheSane | well, the main headache is probably dual wielding classes, discerning between mh/oh attacks |
| 02:10.00 | nymbia | yup |
| 02:10.09 | nymbia | damage range would be the one to go by there |
| 02:10.20 | nymbia | but that'll overlap sometimes. |
| 02:10.22 | NightHawkTheSane | and hybrid classes who cast + autoattack doesnt sound pleasant either. |
| 02:10.40 | nymbia | yeah. |
| 02:10.59 | nymbia | hrm.. that one gets to be at the bottom of the list. |
| 02:11.01 | nymbia | lol |
| 02:11.01 | NightHawkTheSane | Then there's hunters who toggle between autoattack and autoshot when moving in/out of range. >.> |
| 02:11.12 | nymbia | ew >.< |
| 02:11.47 | NightHawkTheSane | hehe, I have now permanently scared nymbia off from doing anything relating to auto-attack. :D |
| 02:11.50 | hyperChipmunk | and have a variety of on-next-attack abilities and abilities which reset autoshot cooldown (or not) |
| 02:11.53 | _neuron_ | nymbia, I've been thinking about that actually .p |
| 02:12.13 | _neuron_ | just because all the ones I've found screw up on flurry and shit like that :P |
| 02:12.32 | NightHawkTheSane | oh yeah, i forgot flurry and all the other attack speed hastes |
| 02:13.17 | nymbia | haha |
| 02:13.20 | _neuron_ | could do it simple though, measure the speed between attacks and show next estimated attack, then on any speed increases measure and save that data |
| 02:13.43 | nymbia | actually that stuff's in the char sheet not |
| 02:13.50 | nymbia | s/not/now/ |
| 02:14.00 | NightHawkTheSane | yeah |
| 02:14.00 | _neuron_ | really? hm, cool |
| 02:14.02 | _neuron_ | go do it then :p |
| 02:14.11 | NightHawkTheSane | well, attack speed always has been i think? |
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| 02:14.30 | _neuron_ | dunno if that changes on flurry etc though |
| 02:14.35 | _neuron_ | parry also changes attack speed |
| 02:14.38 | NightHawkTheSane | it does |
| 02:15.03 | hyperChipmunk | rapid fire changes some cast times too |
| 02:16.44 | _neuron_ | I wanna see this in svn when I wake up tomorrow nymbia :p |
| 02:17.19 | Diao | lol |
| 02:17.22 | Diao | doesn't attack bar timer do that |
| 02:18.53 | nymbia | _neuron_: lol |
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| 02:22.56 | Funkeh` | yeah but nymbia i think enemy cast bar is a little more important than some of those features you want to add :p |
| 02:24.13 | nymbia | Funkeh`: i agree ;) |
| 02:25.16 | NightHawkTheSane | Yeah, just adding target cast bar alone would make me replace ecb. |
| 02:25.49 | Funkeh` | im not using quartz basically because it makes my UI look ugly wiht that castbar and pitbulls enemy cast bar :p |
| 02:25.58 | Funkeh` | it needs to match :p |
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| 02:26.23 | NightHawkTheSane | I wouldn't mind that, I just don't like the idea of running two different cast bar addons |
| 02:27.24 | Funkeh` | night i plan on removing the casting bar addon in pibull |
| 02:27.32 | Funkeh` | once quartz gets enemy cast abr ;) |
| 02:28.13 | NightHawkTheSane | *nod* |
| 02:28.40 | ckknight | Funkeh`: um, you can disable the module pretty easy |
| 02:28.44 | ckknight | like, in the menu |
| 02:29.37 | Funkeh` | not having it load > having it load and disabled |
| 02:29.51 | ckknight | Funkeh`: yea, need to put in LoD stuff into Pitbull |
| 02:30.04 | Funkeh` | yeah |
| 02:30.06 | ckknight | once that happens, if it disables, on reload, not loaded at all |
| 02:30.12 | Funkeh` | sweet |
| 02:30.39 | ckknight | I held off on that because people are bitches "Oh, my Portrait's not working cause I use WAU and am an incompetent whiny bitch" |
| 02:30.47 | nymbia | hahaha |
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| 02:35.22 | ckknight | I suppose I am done my schoolwork now |
| 02:35.42 | Amadeo | I wonder if Blizzard will ever upgrade normal PvP honor rewards |
| 02:35.44 | ckknight | I could work on the LoD stuff |
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| 02:36.29 | CIA-23 | 03nymbia * r35163 10Quartz/Quartz.lua: |
| 02:36.29 | CIA-23 | Quartz: |
| 02:36.29 | CIA-23 | - Latency module respond to SharedMedia_SetGlobal events |
| 02:37.16 | CIA-23 | 03rabbit * r35164 10FuBar_PTReagentFu/PTReagentFu.lua: FuBar_PTReagentFu: Sort the reagent list so that the order is always the same. |
| 02:37.47 | ckknight | nymbia: I has an idea! |
| 02:38.36 | ckknight | nymbia: somehow have Quartz be able to replace PitBull's player cast bar |
| 02:38.55 | ckknight | or something. |
| 02:39.03 | nymbia | ooh |
| 02:39.14 | ckknight | like, it could be a pull from PitBull, I'm thinking |
| 02:39.22 | ckknight | to request the CastBar frame |
| 02:39.39 | ckknight | and then manipulate its size and position (to put on the player unit frame) |
| 02:39.50 | nymbia | yup |
| 02:39.53 | ckknight | but Quartz would handle how it looks and such |
| 02:41.08 | Diao | O: |
| 02:41.50 | nymbia | i'll throw that on the to-do list :) |
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| 02:43.08 | ckknight | nymbia: I mean, cause I see extra goodies for the player (and possibly target) cast bar |
| 02:43.16 | ckknight | that may not be best in PitBull_CastBar itself |
| 02:43.27 | nymbia | yeah |
| 02:43.28 | ckknight | cause, I mean, I want my party cast bars and such |
| 02:43.37 | ckknight | but don't want to have multiple player cast bars |
| 02:43.55 | nymbia | i think target and focus will be pretty much just 'normal' cast bars |
| 02:44.06 | nymbia | but stuff like the lag meter and the tradeskill merge |
| 02:44.11 | nymbia | nice to have on the player cast bar |
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| 02:45.53 | sylvanaar | ckknight you can try doing the psuedo-load-on-demand stuff i did with prat - it lets both users and techies share the same solution |
| 02:46.21 | ckknight | I don't like Prat's way... |
| 02:46.31 | ckknight | because it has multiple modules in one addon |
| 02:46.36 | ckknight | PitBull doesn't need to do that |
| 02:46.49 | sylvanaar | ckknight it only loads some of them |
| 02:47.03 | sylvanaar | being the end result |
| 02:47.04 | ckknight | my users will love me despite exorbitant demands, such as one addon per module. |
| 02:47.18 | nymbia | haha |
| 02:47.24 | ckknight | sylvanaar: yea, but you have to reloadui whenever something gets enabled |
| 02:47.30 | sylvanaar | no |
| 02:47.38 | ckknight | no? |
| 02:47.53 | sylvanaar | you have to reloadui to disable something |
| 02:48.00 | sylvanaar | rather |
| 02:48.02 | sylvanaar | to unload it |
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| 02:48.13 | ckknight | well, from memory, yes |
| 02:48.16 | sylvanaar | yes |
| 02:48.38 | ckknight | but then how do you load new things without reloadui-ing? |
| 02:48.45 | ckknight | aren't all your modules in one big addon? |
| 02:48.48 | ckknight | or am I mistaken? |
| 02:48.48 | sylvanaar | there is a helper module to do that |
| 02:48.52 | sylvanaar | yes |
| 02:48.58 | sylvanaar | try it out |
| 02:49.10 | nymbia | ckknight: a second LoD addon with copies of all the modules, afaik |
| 02:49.14 | sylvanaar | no |
| 02:49.17 | sylvanaar | not copies |
| 02:49.26 | sylvanaar | it has 1 files |
| 02:49.35 | ckknight | ? |
| 02:49.44 | ckknight | so describe the process to me |
| 02:50.26 | sylvanaar | first load there is an If at the top of each lua which says whether to load or not |
| 02:50.57 | ckknight | k. |
| 02:50.58 | sylvanaar | when you want to enable something, it does a LoadAddOn on the helper module |
| 02:51.15 | ckknight | alright |
| 02:51.21 | sylvanaar | its toc points back to the the modules |
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| 02:51.40 | ckknight | so it does something like ..\Prat\module\pants.lua ? |
| 02:51.51 | sylvanaar | and those same if's block load on any module which has already loaded |
| 02:52.03 | sylvanaar | so now all modules are loaded |
| 02:52.14 | sylvanaar | and you can check and uncheck stuff |
| 02:52.17 | ckknight | hrm... doesn't that make it so you can load only once? |
| 02:52.17 | nymbia | hrm... that might've been a bad idea. |
| 02:52.27 | nymbia | i just told DebugFu to check _G |
| 02:52.34 | ckknight | bad, nymbia |
| 02:52.35 | ckknight | bad. |
| 02:52.37 | nymbia | haha |
| 02:52.39 | nymbia | indeed. |
| 02:52.41 | sylvanaar | you can load partial, then full |
| 02:52.45 | sylvanaar | thats all you need |
| 02:52.46 | Kirkburn|afk | Anyone know why the enGB 2.1 BG download is 352MB? |
| 02:52.58 | Kirkburn|afk | The enUS one is still only 250, right? |
| 02:53.07 | ckknight | you have extra stuff |
| 02:53.11 | ckknight | to support locale switching |
| 02:53.18 | Cryect | haha |
| 02:53.22 | Kirkburn|afk | Ooh, really? |
| 02:53.28 | NightHawkTheSane | british english has a lot of extra vowels in it. |
| 02:53.29 | Kirkburn|afk | ckknight, has there been a post about it? |
| 02:53.30 | NightHawkTheSane | u's and e's. |
| 02:53.36 | NightHawkTheSane | About 100mb of vowels. |
| 02:53.40 | nymbia | rofl |
| 02:53.40 | Kirkburn|afk | heh |
| 02:53.45 | ckknight | Kirkburn|afk: this is how it always is... |
| 02:54.01 | Kirkburn|afk | It isn't |
| 02:54.14 | Cryect | sure not 100 mb more |
| 02:54.20 | nymbia | eu patches are always bigger |
| 02:54.26 | nymbia | not by that much |
| 02:54.26 | Kirkburn|afk | At the most enGB patches are about 10% bigger |
| 02:54.28 | nymbia | but bigger |
| 02:54.35 | Cryect | yeah |
| 02:54.39 | ckknight | well, you don't support our troops, Kirkburn |
| 02:54.40 | nymbia | i have faith |
| 02:54.41 | Cryect | most the stuff isn't sound etc |
| 02:54.43 | nymbia | that one of these days |
| 02:54.49 | nymbia | my wow will un-freeze |
| 02:55.13 | sylvanaar | all my toc's refer to xml files, so that they are relocatable |
| 02:55.13 | Kirkburn|afk | ckknight, now you know that's not true :( That's the french! /me glares at Adys |
| 02:55.37 | nymbia | sylvanaar: you can point down levels in xml? |
| 02:55.56 | sylvanaar | yes |
| 02:56.03 | nymbia | hot. |
| 02:56.26 | Kirkburn|afk | Our download came out a fair bit later than the US one, /could/ mean that got more in the package. Ah, I dunno. Must investigate! |
| 02:56.35 | CIA-23 | 03ckknight * r35165 10FuBar_DebugFu/DebugFu.lua: FuBar_DebugFu - don't let the user profile _G |
| 02:56.43 | nymbia | ckknight: rofl |
| 02:56.53 | nymbia | ckknight: thanks, save me from my own idiocy ;) |
| 02:56.58 | ckknight | yep. |
| 02:57.07 | ulic | ckknight: fyi, I was messing with the latest Pitbull, as of about 5 hours ago, and the XP & XP Rest colors, didn't seem to like to set properly, jfyi. |
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| 02:58.18 | Hjalte | Kirkburn, I'm not downloading any patch, enGB here as well? |
| 02:58.38 | ckknight | ulic: text colors or other colors? |
| 02:58.39 | Kirkburn|afk | Start the BackgroundDownloader.exe prog :) |
| 03:00.12 | CIA-23 | 03ckknight * r35166 10FuBar_DebugFu/DebugFu.lua: FuBar_DebugFu - stop at 1000 functions |
| 03:00.18 | Hjalte | Oh :P That feels like cheating. |
| 03:00.54 | Funkeh` | i started it Kirkburn|afk and its 'waiting' |
| 03:00.56 | ulic | ckknight: the bar colors, for xp gained and rest |
| 03:01.03 | ckknight | k |
| 03:01.06 | ckknight | I'll look into it |
| 03:01.16 | Cryect | Hmmm whats wrong with profiling _G? :-p just make sure you don't traverse _G too far is all |
| 03:01.19 | Kirkburn|afk | Funkeh`, not my fault you have a crap set up ;) |
| 03:01.25 | sylvanaar | you know if you used xml in libraries the way i have been with prat - you could just embed the library folder actualy instead of using externals at all |
| 03:01.32 | Funkeh` | Kirkburn|afk: slut |
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| 03:01.57 | Kirkburn|afk | I'm on 19MB downloaded now, hooaaa! |
| 03:02.28 | Thrae | Kirkburn|afk: Whatcha downloading? |
| 03:02.30 | sylvanaar | to disembed the library you would just move the folder out into your addons directory |
| 03:02.43 | Kirkburn|afk | Pr0-... I mean 2.1 |
| 03:02.45 | ckknight | Funkeh`: you a furriner? |
| 03:02.59 | Hjalte | Funkeh`, mine started downloading right away... Hah! |
| 03:03.08 | Funkeh` | enGB |
| 03:03.11 | nymbia | Funkeh`: terrible |
| 03:03.23 | Funkeh` | lol |
| 03:03.33 | ckknight | woo, America's #1! |
| 03:03.43 | nymbia | lol |
| 03:03.55 | Funkeh` | yeah thats why top 7 guilds in the world are EU |
| 03:04.49 | nymbia | ohshit |
| 03:04.49 | Funkeh` | top 8 guilds now |
| 03:05.24 | Cryect | 8 guilds have killed al'ar? |
| 03:05.26 | ckknight | oh yea? who owns the moon, hrm? |
| 03:05.27 | ckknight | America, that's who. |
| 03:05.32 | gnorlish | and mars |
| 03:05.46 | Funkeh` | lol |
| 03:05.58 | zoktar | anyone got a hack to get combat text in center of pitbull unitframe (when u have portraits enabled) ? |
| 03:06.02 | gnorlish | and most of jupiter's moons |
| 03:06.19 | Diao | lmao |
| 03:06.31 | ckknight | zoktar: hrm... there should probably be an option for that. |
| 03:06.33 | ulic | and pluto, except it's not a planet |
| 03:06.34 | Funkeh` | Cryect: http://bosskillers.com/cgi-bin/bbguild/index.cgi?action=guild_submitadvancedsearch&sid=hd7A5GB9Gv&page=1&srank1=&wrank1=&guild_name=&go=Search&guild_type=both&wrank2=&srank2=&order=1&col_name=5 |
| 03:06.37 | ckknight | I don't use portraits, personally |
| 03:06.44 | zoktar | i like em ;P |
| 03:06.47 | Kirkburn|afk | I forgot ... so who was who reached the Moon first? |
| 03:06.49 | gnorlish | pluto is beneath america's interest |
| 03:06.53 | Kirkburn|afk | Oh riiiight, it was Russia! |
| 03:06.57 | zoktar | no option as i can see |
| 03:07.06 | ckknight | Kirkburn|afk: yea, but we had the guts to fake a moon landing |
| 03:07.08 | ckknight | so suck it |
| 03:07.12 | Megalon | ckknight: the moon? is it that what they call that landscape in the hollywood studio?! |
| 03:07.12 | Kirkburn|afk | heh |
| 03:07.40 | Thrae_ppc | Can anyone hear me? |
| 03:08.06 | Tem|AFK | nope |
| 03:08.08 | ckknight | Megalon: you didn't see my last comment before you pushed enter, did you? |
| 03:08.30 | ckknight | Thrae_ppc: sorry, can you say that a little louder? |
| 03:09.03 | Thrae_ppc | Funny ;) I'm just asking because technically I shouldn't be allowed to tether with my Sprint PPC 6700, but here I am, talking on my laptop. |
| 03:09.17 | ckknight | lol |
| 03:09.19 | ckknight | fun |
| 03:09.47 | Thrae_ppc | My crazy Comcast cable connection has some problem called "Overdrive" (sounds like a Final Fantasy Limit Break) and now I can't use IRC on it. They said it'll be fixed by Monday. |
| 03:10.12 | Thrae_ppc | Its upstream fluctates wildly...although I can still use BitTorrent OK. Very odd. |
| 03:10.49 | Thrae_ppc | If I try to use IRC, I lose all upstream and need to reset the modem. |
| 03:11.22 | nymbia | that's.. odd |
| 03:11.34 | zoktar | as of now when u use portrait it puts combat text in center of portrait instead of the unitframe |
| 03:13.49 | ckknight | right |
| 03:16.14 | CIA-23 | 03ckknight * r35167 10PitBull/Aura/Aura.lua: |
| 03:16.14 | CIA-23 | PitBull_Aura - move things around. |
| 03:16.14 | CIA-23 | - now don't create any extra aura frames if they're just going to be hidden later. |
| 03:16.14 | CIA-23 | - hopefully should fix things and doesn't break things, but we'll just have to see. |
| 03:16.54 | nymbia | ckknight: OMG YOU BROKE MY AURAS |
| 03:17.03 | ckknight | NO U |
| 03:17.21 | ckknight | actually, that fix might fix people with the creepy aura filling up whole frame bug. |
| 03:17.23 | ckknight | we'll see. |
| 03:21.52 | Amadeo | This site is pretty neat |
| 03:21.55 | Amadeo | though slow right now |
| 03:21.57 | Amadeo | http://vixy.net/ |
| 03:22.11 | Funkeh` | nymbia is it true you are adding enemy cast abr to Quratz? |
| 03:23.20 | nymbia | Funkeh`: depends. |
| 03:23.31 | Funkeh` | nymbia: on? :p |
| 03:23.45 | nymbia | Funkeh`: if you want it, i'll be a month or three |
| 03:24.21 | NightHawkTheSane | if( UnitName("player") == 'funkeydude' ) then return end; |
| 03:24.38 | Funkeh` | nymbia: :'( |
| 03:24.41 | nymbia | lol |
| 03:30.00 | sylvanaar | anyhow i posted it at the bottom of this thread, as an interesting idea maybe someone can use it for something http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=5542.80 |
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| 03:35.00 | Amadeo | oh my god |
| 03:35.11 | Amadeo | They're bringing back Tecmo Bowl |
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| 03:35.49 | CAL|Smeltn | evening |
| 03:36.04 | CAL|Smeltn | does anyone know if there is an updated healer mod, that works like the old ones, or actually close? |
| 03:36.10 | vhaarr | "healer mod"? |
| 03:36.11 | CAL|Smeltn | I know since Decursive works now |
| 03:36.21 | vhaarr | CAL|Smeltn: Click2Cast, for example. |
| 03:36.27 | CAL|Smeltn | you know you click a button and it selects the best rank heal |
| 03:36.33 | vhaarr | can't do that now |
| 03:37.22 | ag` | hmm |
| 03:37.25 | ag` | 2.1 out? |
| 03:37.32 | NightHawkTheSane | no |
| 03:37.42 | Cryect | Decursive works now? |
| 03:38.22 | NimbleRabit | Hey guys how do I get Aloft to show health based on MobHealth |
| 03:38.22 | vhaarr | "works" |
| 03:38.24 | CAL|Smeltn | yes |
| 03:38.30 | CAL|Smeltn | decurse works |
| 03:38.34 | CAL|Smeltn | and I know there is a healing mod |
| 03:38.36 | CAL|Smeltn | that works also |
| 03:38.38 | vhaarr | NimbleRabit: It's a mini-Grid. |
| 03:38.49 | Amadeo | some new Ubuntu Studio release came out, and the website doesn't even work |
| 03:38.51 | vhaarr | CAL|Smeltn: You are mistaken, addons can no longer select spells in combat. |
| 03:38.55 | NimbleRabit | vhaarr, I have no idea what you just said |
| 03:38.57 | vhaarr | CAL|Smeltn: You can try Grid+Click2Cast. |
| 03:39.04 | vhaarr | CAL|Smeltn: Both are available on the SVN. |
| 03:39.40 | Cryect | CAL|Smeltn: When you say decursive works I can sit there and press 1 button and it decurses everyone? if so thats uh interesting |
| 03:39.57 | NimbleRabit | mini-Grid? |
| 03:42.23 | JoshBorke | i like clique! |
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| 03:49.16 | ulic | JoshBorke: yea, it's pretty nice |
| 03:49.26 | Mikma | Click2Cast is shitm use Clique instead |
| 03:50.27 | ckknight | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:50.35 | JoshBorke | to each his own i say |
| 03:50.51 | JoshBorke | i personally like the intuitive interface for Clique |
| 03:50.58 | JoshBorke | so i never really tried Click2Cast |
| 03:51.17 | NightHawkTheSane | yeah, the interface for clique is really well done |
| 03:51.34 | JoshBorke | when i use a mod, i want it to just work |
| 03:51.39 | JoshBorke | i hate complicated mods |
| 03:51.56 | Mikma | it's simple and it works so well |
| 03:51.58 | nymbia | what the |
| 03:52.08 | Mikma | that's all i want and that's what it provides |
| 03:52.12 | Kilroo | Counting most multi-module addons as one addon, except for my Fubar addons which I counted separately, I appear to have 74 addons at the moment. |
| 03:52.31 | nymbia | toc changes can be made without restarting the game in 2.1 |
| 03:52.34 | nymbia | that's hot. |
| 03:52.43 | JoshBorke | that is hot |
| 03:52.52 | vhaarr | nymbia: really? you just tested it, or? |
| 03:52.52 | Kilroo | That's about how many I expected. |
| 03:52.53 | JoshBorke | now what does that give us? |
| 03:52.55 | clad|afk | nymbia: you could always make toc changes |
| 03:52.56 | NightHawkTheSane | indeed. i'm slightly aroused. |
| 03:53.05 | clad|afk | you couldn't add files that didn't exist prior to that session |
| 03:53.12 | Kilroo | I'm going slightly mad. |
| 03:53.13 | clad|afk | are you saying you can do _that_ now? |
| 03:53.16 | nymbia | vhaarr: by accident |
| 03:53.23 | vhaarr | nymbia: what clad said ^ |
| 03:53.26 | nymbia | clad|afk: er.. i dont think these files existed |
| 03:53.29 | nymbia | lemme check though |
| 03:53.36 | nymbia | oh right, they did. |
| 03:53.45 | clad|afk | the .toc is always parsed each reload, but only files in the "sandbox" can be loaded. |
| 03:53.46 | nymbia | since i crashed |
| 03:53.52 | Kilroo | Good night, people. |
| 03:54.15 | Amadeo | http://ubuntustudio.org/ww2/ |
| 03:54.23 | Amadeo | I managed to get to the page anyway :P |
| 03:54.43 | Amadeo | it looks fun |
| 03:55.02 | clad|afk | Amadeo: very nifty :P |
| 03:55.15 | Amadeo | the theme is a bit ugly though |
| 03:55.57 | Amadeo | not that it matters, I just hate questioning the quality of a project due to a website and such :P |
| 03:56.11 | NimbleRabit | Hey guys how do I get Aloft to show health based on MobHealth. I have a feeling I just need to change the "tags" or w/e in the healthtext section but I don't know what to put. |
| 04:05.48 | CIA-23 | 03bam * r35168 10/ (3 files in 2 dirs): |
| 04:05.48 | CIA-23 | ItemPrice-1.0: |
| 04:05.48 | CIA-23 | - Price updates |
| 04:14.02 | *** part/#wowace Amadeo (n=amadeo@c-68-50-168-95.hsd1.md.comcast.net) |
| 04:20.37 | stavmar | nymbia: is Manufac going to be changed for 2.1 or will it stay the same functionally? |
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| 04:21.25 | *** part/#wowace Nightdew_ (n=Nightdew@24.30.120.48) |
| 04:21.39 | nymbia | stavmar: i've already tweaked things a little for 2.1, but it'll stay mostly the same |
| 04:21.56 | stavmar | ok cool. THX |
| 04:23.08 | Bam__ | is there a way to avoid that a CheckButton automatically toggles state when clicked? |
| 04:23.25 | Bam__ | or is that controlled outside of Lua? |
| 04:24.25 | CIA-23 | 03totalpackage * r35169 10Capping/ (13 files in 4 dirs): |
| 04:24.25 | CIA-23 | Capping |
| 04:24.26 | CIA-23 | - added vertical spacing options |
| 04:24.26 | CIA-23 | - replaced placeholder icons with more familiar ones |
| 04:24.26 | CIA-23 | - more dust cleaning of the ancient code |
| 04:24.26 | CIA-23 | - replaced the redundant NotSteel texture with Steel |
| 04:27.09 | CIA-23 | 03nymbia * r35170 10Quartz/ (5 files): |
| 04:27.09 | CIA-23 | Quartz: |
| 04:27.09 | CIA-23 | - Expose cast data vars on the Quartz object, split the modules that needed access to these out into their own files. |
| 04:27.09 | CIA-23 | - May cause a bug or two, let me know if you run into any. |
| 04:30.03 | CIA-23 | 03ckknight * r35171 10PitBull/Layouts/ABF.lua: PitBull_Layouts/ABF - changed IsPlayerEnergy to IsEnergy#player |
| 04:31.11 | sylvanaar | re: toc changes is 2.1 |
| 04:31.22 | CIA-23 | 03ckknight * r35172 10DogTag-1.0/DogTag-1.0/DogTag-1.0.lua: |
| 04:31.22 | CIA-23 | DogTag-1.0 - remove aliases IsPlayerPowerType, IsPlayerRage, IsPlayerFocus, IsPlayerEnergy, IsPlayerMana in one week. |
| 04:31.22 | CIA-23 | - add tags IsPlayer, IsPet, IsPlayerOrPet |
| 04:31.32 | sylvanaar | loadmanagers dont update until you have logged out |
| 04:31.53 | sylvanaar | and maybe even exited the game i havent test |
| 04:35.18 | CIA-23 | 03nymbia * r35173 10Quartz/Buffs.lua: Quartz: Buffs: remove a SETGLOBAL |
| 04:35.43 | nymbia | so if you turn something's manager off |
| 04:35.48 | nymbia | it stays LoD? |
| 04:38.33 | Thrae_ppc | nymbia: LoadManagers is an OptDep that makes the addon LoD if the "optional dependency" exists. Otherwise it's not LoD. |
| 04:38.49 | sylvanaar | yes |
| 04:38.55 | sylvanaar | its stays LoS |
| 04:38.59 | sylvanaar | LoD |
| 04:39.04 | sylvanaar | until you exit the game |
| 04:39.14 | Thrae_ppc | sylvanaar: Not until you reload the UI? |
| 04:39.14 | nymbia | that's a problem then |
| 04:39.25 | sylvanaar | no, reloadui isnt enough |
| 04:39.44 | sylvanaar | its a flaw in thier implementation |
| 04:39.48 | Thrae_ppc | sylvanaar: So I'm guessing adding and removing LoadOnDemand isn't enough. |
| 04:39.57 | Thrae_ppc | s/isn't enough/isn't enough either/ |
| 04:40.14 | sylvanaar | whatcha mean? |
| 04:41.15 | Thrae_ppc | sylvanaar: In 2.1 if you add LoadOnDemand: 1 to the TOC field after game start, I'm guessing it doesn't just change the addon to LoD? |
| 04:41.28 | sylvanaar | heres the problem Manager:loaded Addon:LoD (gets loaded). Using tool in game Manager:Unloaded Addon:LoD (not loaded) |
| 04:42.01 | sylvanaar | see |
| 04:42.25 | sylvanaar | it has the same behaviour as changing the toc field |
| 04:42.38 | sylvanaar | which would require a game restart also |
| 04:42.58 | sylvanaar | which makes it - less useful |
| 04:43.02 | Thrae_ppc | Right, so it sounds like anything to do with LoadOnDemand requires a restart |
| 04:43.27 | sylvanaar | except of course being Load on demand |
| 04:43.31 | sylvanaar | lol |
| 04:43.40 | Thrae_ppc | Being LoadOnDemand BEFORE the game starts |
| 04:43.44 | sylvanaar | yes |
| 04:43.55 | Thrae_ppc | In 2.1, can you write your changes to the TOC field? |
| 04:44.00 | sylvanaar | then you can be loaded even if disabled when you started the game |
| 04:44.15 | sylvanaar | thats one of the best parts of LoD |
| 04:44.50 | sylvanaar | you can enable the addon AND load it while running the game |
| 04:45.10 | Thrae_ppc | sylvanaar: Have you tried this -- # LoadManager: Foo # LoadOnDemand: 0 |
| 04:45.31 | sylvanaar | no |
| 04:45.34 | Thrae_ppc | Maybe that'll trick it into going back to normal upon a UI restart |
| 04:45.49 | sylvanaar | which brings up another point though |
| 04:45.51 | Thrae_ppc | Or maybe that'll make your WoW go into an infinite loop of being LoD and not LoD :D |
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| 04:46.18 | sylvanaar | there is never a need to disable LoD addons, and even if they are disabled, you can just enable them when you try to load them |
| 04:46.19 | Thrae_ppc | Your computer will turn into a mobius strip! Try it! |
| 04:47.12 | sylvanaar | that is something perhaps which should be enhanced in acelibrary |
| 04:47.21 | sylvanaar | if it is not already there |
| 04:47.27 | Thrae_ppc | Well, anyway, I don't really see the big issue with LoadManager |
| 04:47.36 | sylvanaar | you have to exit the gmae |
| 04:47.43 | sylvanaar | thats a big deal |
| 04:47.57 | Thrae_ppc | You have to exit the game if you add the LoadManager field or take it away? |
| 04:48.04 | nymbia | Thrae_ppc: no |
| 04:48.09 | sylvanaar | if you disable the load manager in game |
| 04:48.18 | nymbia | Thrae_ppc: if you disable the loadmanager |
| 04:48.23 | nymbia | the addon will never load |
| 04:48.30 | sylvanaar | using an in game tool |
| 04:48.32 | nymbia | even though its loadmanager is not present |
| 04:48.36 | sylvanaar | like eg. ACP |
| 04:48.46 | sylvanaar | i guess we can correct for it |
| 04:49.03 | sylvanaar | but its dumb |
| 04:49.11 | Thrae_ppc | Yeah that might be annoying, but it really isn't a big issue |
| 04:49.31 | Thrae_ppc | A generic loadmanager that is made and released properly will work 100% and never should need disabling |
| 04:50.16 | sylvanaar | whats the rule again if its manager is present and enabled? |
| 04:50.42 | Thrae_ppc | Then it becomes LoD, I believe |
| 04:51.32 | sylvanaar | sounds like the check is done during the first toc traversal only |
| 04:52.13 | sylvanaar | it would have been loads more useful if it was done during addon load |
| 04:53.53 | sylvanaar | to get around the issue you would need to introduce an additional stub |
| 04:55.17 | Thrae_ppc | sylvanaar: Uh, the LoadManager IS a stub |
| 04:55.26 | sylvanaar | i konw thats why its so fully |
| 04:55.28 | sylvanaar | funny |
| 04:55.50 | Thrae_ppc | But the thing is, you should never need to disable the stub |
| 04:56.22 | Thrae_ppc | If you want the addon to load normally, you can just tell the stub to load it normally |
| 04:56.42 | Thrae_ppc | If the addon misbehaves when its LoD, well that's not the stub's fault |
| 04:57.28 | sylvanaar | yeah, you are envisioning replaceing the out-of-game manager entirely |
| 04:57.52 | Thrae_ppc | sylvanaar: That's what I use MCP for ;) |
| 04:58.23 | Thrae_ppc | The LoadManager stub would only be useful for addons like PerfectRaid that only have Party and Raid frames, so thus only need be enabled in a Party and/or Raid. |
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| 04:59.50 | sylvanaar | Yeah. I was trying to come up with some other uses for it |
| 05:00.02 | Thrae_ppc | Like what? |
| 05:00.17 | Funkeh` | woho |
| 05:00.23 | Funkeh` | background downloader working for eu |
| 05:00.43 | sylvanaar | a replacement for the optdep system of library dependance currently in use |
| 05:01.04 | sylvanaar | it cant be used for that in its current implementation |
| 05:01.32 | Thrae_ppc | sylvanaar: By the way, I missed if you answered me about if the TOC changes are written to file upon UI reload |
| 05:01.43 | Thrae_ppc | Or if they just exist in metadata space |
| 05:01.49 | sylvanaar | the toc is never written to |
| 05:02.12 | Thrae_ppc | Yeah, I guess that'd break their code on io.write |
| 05:03.05 | sylvanaar | the first toc traversal is done after you enter your user/pass |
| 05:03.06 | Thrae_ppc | Anyway, I don't understand your statement about optdeps and library depdendance |
| 05:03.45 | sylvanaar | instead of listing your libs as optdeps you list them as loadmanagers |
| 05:04.13 | sylvanaar | but i guess that doesnt work either |
| 05:04.21 | Thrae_ppc | What would that solve? |
| 05:04.41 | sylvanaar | dependancies for standalone libraries |
| 05:05.45 | Thrae_ppc | But the libraries are already embedded into the addons that need them. Do you mean for people that use them as addons in !!!!Libs or such? |
| 05:06.05 | sylvanaar | few of us use embedded versions of libraries |
| 05:06.12 | sylvanaar | most users do |
| 05:06.28 | sylvanaar | but most techies dont |
| 05:07.06 | Thrae_ppc | OK, you lost me again...you're taking about download /Ace2 and using it as an addon to seperate its instance from the addons that embed it, right? |
| 05:07.22 | sylvanaar | yes |
| 05:07.25 | Thrae_ppc | *downloading |
| 05:07.41 | sylvanaar | and !!!StandaloneLibraries |
| 05:07.53 | Thrae_ppc | Right, so what's wrong with OptDep there? |
| 05:08.14 | sylvanaar | um, because if the libraries arent enabled the mod will load with an error |
| 05:08.31 | evulhotdog | hey would anybody like to code an addon for me? |
| 05:08.34 | sylvanaar | no |
| 05:08.37 | *** join/#wowace Sole (n=chatzill@203.109.211.96) |
| 05:08.37 | evulhotdog | i will pay =P |
| 05:08.51 | sylvanaar | should have said that first |
| 05:09.00 | evulhotdog | you already said no. |
| 05:09.03 | Thrae_ppc | sylvanaar: Ohh, you're talking about decreasing loadtime by removing all libraries from being embedded into being standalone? |
| 05:09.03 | sylvanaar | i know |
| 05:09.09 | sylvanaar | yes |
| 05:09.34 | Bam__ | usual consultant fee: $200 per hour :P |
| 05:09.48 | evulhotdog | lol gg |
| 05:10.02 | Bam__ | too cheap? |
| 05:10.19 | evulhotdog | i dont know, take a guess. |
| 05:10.37 | evulhotdog | are you serious about it or not? |
| 05:10.56 | Thrae_ppc | sylvanaar: What if the optional dependency is LoD, but the addon is not LoD? Does it just skip the OptDep? |
| 05:10.59 | Megalon | everything that exceeds 'hello world' 400$! |
| 05:11.09 | Bam__ | per hour! |
| 05:11.10 | evulhotdog | haha. |
| 05:11.20 | Cairenn | see, evulhotdog, you made a mistake in starting with a channel op - the fact you play on a private server isn't a secret any longer |
| 05:11.24 | Thrae_ppc | sylvanaar: Or does it force it to load? |
| 05:11.36 | evulhotdog | XD |
| 05:11.42 | Cairenn | most of the people in this channel are in other channels as well, so I just told them over there |
| 05:11.44 | evulhotdog | doesent really matter |
| 05:11.45 | Bam__ | :D |
| 05:12.06 | evulhotdog | at least i didnt have to say it |
| 05:12.07 | evulhotdog | =P |
| 05:12.43 | Bam__ | anyway... people code for fun.. and it's rarely fun to code for one person only :P |
| 05:12.58 | evulhotdog | hah, fun. |
| 05:13.06 | evulhotdog | i would learn but i dont have the attention span. |
| 05:13.24 | Bam__ | as there is no money in it, there can't be any other reason :P |
| 05:13.33 | nymbia | i think they have drugs for that |
| 05:13.51 | evulhotdog | well its boring to me |
| 05:13.53 | Bam__ | hey... coding and drugs don't exclude each other :P |
| 05:13.56 | evulhotdog | but i want to learn and create my own things... |
| 05:14.14 | Megalon | then learn to code and create your own addon |
| 05:14.15 | Megalon | TADA |
| 05:14.41 | evulhotdog | anyways maybe that they want to make an addon that serves a purpose for them, and they release it so other people who cant code can use it and have the same benefits ^^ |
| 05:15.16 | Bam__ | isn't that what all addons are for basically? |
| 05:15.22 | Thrae_ppc | evulhotdog: You live in or almosty in Cleveland, right? |
| 05:15.36 | Thrae_ppc | Need to know what to send to Blizzard and Vivendi... |
| 05:15.39 | evulhotdog | correct. |
| 05:15.44 | evulhotdog | go ahead. |
| 05:15.52 | evulhotdog | they cant and wont do anything |
| 05:16.13 | sylvanaar | Thrae_ppc any when an addon loads any optdep which is enabled but not loaded is loaded as well. |
| 05:17.05 | sylvanaar | i think, then again, that might not be true |
| 05:17.09 | evulhotdog | btw i could also give you the link to the website, it really doesent matter what you do. |
| 05:17.11 | Thrae_ppc | sylvanaar: OK, so why don't you seperate !!!StandaloneLibraries into each library as a seperate addon, make them all LoadOnDemand, and use OptDep? |
| 05:17.20 | Sole | well thats weircd |
| 05:17.32 | Sole | when I play a music file in winamp, my sound works |
| 05:17.40 | Sole | when I try to play a youtube video, it dont work |
| 05:17.45 | sylvanaar | its not, i think acelibrary does it |
| 05:17.46 | Tem | I'm afraid you're wrong on whether or not they can and would do something |
| 05:17.47 | evulhotdog | you have vista? |
| 05:17.54 | Tem | and I _don't_ suggest arguing with me |
| 05:18.01 | Tem | the @ next to my name means I get to be right |
| 05:18.03 | Tem | even if I'm wrong |
| 05:18.06 | sylvanaar | Thrae_ppc thats how it is now |
| 05:18.14 | evulhotdog | didnt plan to fight |
| 05:18.19 | evulhotdog | theres nothing to fight about |
| 05:18.20 | Sole | Tem: youre wrong |
| 05:18.22 | Sole | HA! |
| 05:18.25 | Thrae_ppc | Sole: When you say music file, do you mean from a CD or MP3? |
| 05:18.28 | evulhotdog | you think what you think and ill think what i think. |
| 05:18.39 | Tem | Sole peed in my cherios! |
| 05:18.56 | Thrae_ppc | sylvanaar: OK, so what's wrong with that? |
| 05:19.29 | Tem | evulhotdog, the bottom line is this, people who pay to play on blizzard servers resent people like you |
| 05:19.33 | Sole | Thrae_ppc: from an mp3 |
| 05:19.39 | Thrae_ppc | sylvanaar: I guess then you'd need to rely on keeping AceLibrary from being disabled, if it handles loading a LoD OptDep... |
| 05:19.53 | Sole | If you play on a private server then you take it in the butt |
| 05:19.56 | Sole | ^ true story |
| 05:20.11 | Sole | when I tried it, a big black man broke into my house and told me to get back on the real servers or else... |
| 05:20.12 | Tem | so, ignoring the fact that basically no one wants to write an addon for something they're not interested in, you still have the hurdle of private server to get over |
| 05:20.15 | Thrae_ppc | Sole: Mmmm, look at all your volume settings, including WAV(E) and MASTER |
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| 05:21.56 | Sole | Thrae_ppc: ok Im silly |
| 05:22.01 | sylvanaar | Thrae_ppc there are problems if the optdeps arent filled in properly which are hard to track down, also, optdeps cant be accessed via the game api |
| 05:22.02 | Sole | Thrae_ppc: I plugged my front speakers into the wrong socket |
| 05:22.17 | Sole | Thrae_ppc: and youtube/youporn only send sound to the front speakers |
| 05:23.41 | sylvanaar | i think loadmanagers can be accessed, im not sure though |
| 05:23.41 | Megalon | ah, that's why i didn't hear anything on youporn! |
| 05:23.42 | Thrae_ppc | Sole: Heh, what sound card do you have? |
| 05:23.44 | Thrae_ppc | sylvanaar: No one should try to correct for bad coding other then Blizzard's ;) |
| 05:24.15 | Thrae_ppc | s/sound card/chipset/ |
| 05:24.26 | Sole | Thrae_ppc: SoundMAX Integrated Digital HD Audio |
| 05:24.40 | Sole | Thrae_ppc: so its kinda bad but Im not too fussed about my sound card anyway |
| 05:25.02 | Thrae_ppc | Sole: Do you have the manager? It should do stereo->surround effects |
| 05:25.25 | Sole | I do have the manager |
| 05:25.29 | Sole | lemme found surround effects then |
| 05:25.29 | sylvanaar | its called pragmatism |
| 05:25.46 | Thrae_ppc | It's called enabling! |
| 05:25.59 | Sole | my music/WoW sound goes to all my speakers thrae |
| 05:27.19 | Sole | thats not my big problem atm |
| 05:27.27 | Sole | my big problem is I cant get my network card working on my other comp |
| 05:27.44 | Thrae_ppc | Sole: Yeah, that's because WoW and Winamp both have DirectSound support |
| 05:28.40 | Sole | the NIC is a Intel PRO 100+ PCI, I downloaded what seemed to be the right drivers from Intel but when I go to install them an error pops up after the install process: Drivers not installed because an Intel PRO device was not found on this computer. |
| 05:29.14 | evulhotdog | evulhotdog, the bottom line is this, people who pay to play on blizzard servers resent people like you i have a retail account also, i just like to take a break every once in a while, its a funserver so its not just grind boringness.... |
| 05:29.34 | sylvanaar | i just got my Q6600 + 975XBX2, its sitting next to me waiting for me to do something with it |
| 05:30.14 | sylvanaar | those intel pro nic's arent supported anymore |
| 05:30.29 | Sole | i know |
| 05:30.32 | Sole | but the drivers should still work |
| 05:30.48 | sylvanaar | on what os? |
| 05:30.50 | evulhotdog | and whats the hurdle of the private server? theres nothing 'bad' about it that you can get in trouble for...' |
| 05:30.58 | Sole | err |
| 05:31.09 | Sole | I dont like you hotdog |
| 05:31.11 | Sole | because youre dumb |
| 05:31.16 | NightHawkTheSane | it violates the EULA, and most likely the ToU as well |
| 05:31.20 | Sole | sylvanaar: xp home |
| 05:31.23 | sylvanaar | ah |
| 05:31.27 | evulhotdog | the server is hosted in russia. |
| 05:31.27 | Sole | thing is |
| 05:31.39 | NightHawkTheSane | so? |
| 05:31.52 | evulhotdog | they can just take down the server or whatever and noone will be punished. |
| 05:32.07 | NightHawkTheSane | no, YOU violate the EULA by logging on to non-blizzard servers. |
| 05:32.13 | sylvanaar | its a PnP card though |
| 05:32.13 | NightHawkTheSane | and the ToU |
| 05:32.22 | sylvanaar | how do you know its a Pro 100+ |
| 05:32.23 | Sole | I used xp home on the other comp before but now Ive had to put in a new hard drive and format it and its not worky |
| 05:32.39 | Sole | sylvanaar: because it says its a Pro 100+ in the device manager |
| 05:32.43 | sylvanaar | and why doesnt windows have the drivers for it |
| 05:32.50 | evulhotdog | so...have you ever heard of somebody getting in trouble or even getting caught or anything of the sort for merely playing on a private server? |
| 05:32.58 | Sole | shit if I know |
| 05:33.07 | sylvanaar | they should be on the windows cd |
| 05:33.17 | Sole | theres one other thing however, it says it cannot find enough resources for the device |
| 05:33.21 | Sole | thats most likely the problem |
| 05:33.23 | sylvanaar | aha |
| 05:33.25 | sylvanaar | yeah |
| 05:33.27 | NightHawkTheSane | Blizzard hires goons to break your hands. |
| 05:33.49 | sylvanaar | go look at the conflict list |
| 05:33.49 | evulhotdog | what goons? |
| 05:33.49 | Sole | it doesnt give me a conflict list |
| 05:33.50 | NightHawkTheSane | the kind who break hands. |
| 05:33.58 | NightHawkTheSane | its a niche industry really. |
| 05:34.04 | evulhotdog | to to http://www.xtremetop100.com |
| 05:34.11 | sylvanaar | sure it does, somewhere |
| 05:34.19 | evulhotdog | thats the list of the biggest private servers. |
| 05:34.29 | NightHawkTheSane | evulhotdog: who the fuck cares? |
| 05:34.33 | sylvanaar | go into your bios then, and disable your parallel port |
| 05:34.45 | sylvanaar | and your serial ports if you dont use em |
| 05:34.48 | evulhotdog | you obviously do because your fighting me about it. |
| 05:34.59 | NightHawkTheSane | you asked a question, I answered it. |
| 05:35.27 | evulhotdog | anyways, dont you think they would take wowscape down? |
| 05:35.34 | evulhotdog | no. |
| 05:35.36 | evulhotdog | they havent. |
| 05:35.42 | evulhotdog | and they probably wont. |
| 05:35.42 | Sole | sylvanaar: thanks for the tip, I'll try it now |
| 05:35.52 | Sole | why the hell are you in here? |
| 05:35.56 | NightHawkTheSane | very very rarely I wish I had op privs. People like you need to be kickbanned. |
| 05:35.56 | sylvanaar | who has op |
| 05:36.03 | sylvanaar | lol |
| 05:36.16 | evulhotdog | for doing what? |
| 05:36.17 | Sole | Temmy boy does |
| 05:36.21 | NightHawkTheSane | for being an idiot. |
| 05:36.22 | evulhotdog | i havent flamed anybody |
| 05:36.23 | Sole | for being a dumbass |
| 05:36.33 | evulhotdog | im explaining the facts. |
| 05:36.33 | *** join/#wowace Bam__ (n=pervel@0x573c050d.boanqu2.broadband.tele.dk) |
| 05:36.38 | Sole | we dont like your facts |
| 05:36.42 | Sole | thus we dont like you |
| 05:36.49 | evulhotdog | is that my problem that you dont like facts? |
| 05:36.50 | evulhotdog | no. |
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| 05:37.03 | NightHawkTheSane | you're distorting the truth to make it seem like you're somehow in the right, despite being anything but. That's the worst kind of person ever. |
| 05:37.03 | evulhotdog | go live in a fantasy world then |
| 05:37.04 | Tem | yeah, buh buy |
| 05:37.07 | Bam__ | plyf |
| 05:37.12 | *** mode/#wowace [+b *!n=EVULhotd@adsl-68-255-184-4.dsl.bcvloh.ameritech.net] by Tem |
| 05:37.12 | *** kick/#wowace [evulhotdog!n=tardmrr@WoWUIDev/WoWI/Dongle/Tem] by Tem (Tem) |
| 05:37.58 | Bam__ | is the ban specific to an IP address? |
| 05:38.10 | Sole | sylvanaar: so a quad core cpu running at 2.4ghz/core provides 9.6ghz of processing power? |
| 05:38.16 | Sole | or is it in fact less than that? |
| 05:38.18 | NightHawkTheSane | it's specific to that user id on that ip address yet. |
| 05:38.33 | Bam__ | ok |
| 05:38.34 | NightHawkTheSane | s/yet/yes/ |
| 05:38.50 | Tem | I suppose I could have made it more broad |
| 05:38.55 | CIA-23 | 03norova * r35174 10SpamMeNot/ (Locale-zhTW.lua SpamMeNot.toc): SpamMeNot:zhTW added |
| 05:38.58 | Tem | but the last time I did a broad ban, I banned all of germany |
| 05:39.04 | NightHawkTheSane | hehe. |
| 05:39.12 | Tem | (true story) |
| 05:39.15 | NightHawkTheSane | It's not worth making the ban more broad unless they don't get the hint and come back |
| 05:39.17 | Cairenn | rofl |
| 05:39.25 | Bam__ | I once tried to enter a chat room where I had never been before.... and I was told I was banned lol |
| 05:39.42 | Bam__ | so I guess they had banned a bit too broad too |
| 05:39.50 | Sole | rofl |
| 05:40.12 | sylvanaar | Sole its theoretically about that much - the overhead |
| 05:40.34 | Sole | darn, maybe I shouldve waited a few months on buying my new comp |
| 05:40.36 | sylvanaar | but that pretty much assumes everything being in the cache |
| 05:40.50 | Sole | Ive got an E6600 in mine |
| 05:41.00 | Bam__ | Sole: you could keep saying that forever :) |
| 05:41.08 | Sole | true that |
| 05:41.16 | sylvanaar | i have a pentium D |
| 05:41.29 | Bam__ | once you have bought a comp, do NOT look at prices the next year or so :D |
| 05:41.36 | sylvanaar | 3.2Ghz |
| 05:41.39 | Sole | tell me bout it :( |
| 05:41.51 | Sole | I dont mind, I love my comp atm |
| 05:42.21 | Bam__ | if only comps were like cars and you could actually sell old ones... |
| 05:42.42 | sylvanaar | old pc -> new media center |
| 05:42.43 | Sole | I couldve been a bit less jewish and fronted an extra $200 and went for a gefore 8 series card instead of 7950 gty |
| 05:42.52 | Sole | s/gty/gt |
| 05:43.26 | sylvanaar | i didnt intend on getting a new pc |
| 05:43.33 | sylvanaar | it just sorta happend |
| 05:43.48 | Bam__ | don't set your foot in a computer store lol |
| 05:44.03 | Bam__ | it's dangerous.... |
| 05:44.47 | sylvanaar | i went to frys |
| 05:44.54 | Sole | lol bam |
| 05:45.05 | sylvanaar | i should never go in there |
| 05:45.22 | Bam__ | I didn't plan on buying my iMac either... I just went there to have a look... and I came home with the biggest one lol |
| 05:45.31 | sylvanaar | its like an alcholic at a bar |
| 05:45.36 | Bam__ | hehe |
| 05:45.45 | sylvanaar | i went to buy a new LCD |
| 05:46.35 | Bam__ | I ran into a damn good sales person... it was almost a joy seeing him work... while he picked money out of my pocket :D |
| 05:46.37 | sylvanaar | and came home with LCD + 8800gtx, then i said well i need a new cpu, so i went back and i had to buy a new mobo for it |
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| 05:47.00 | sylvanaar | and new ram yeah lets get some of that too |
| 05:47.04 | Bam__ | hehe... just that little bit extra... :P |
| 05:47.06 | fisherman | o.o |
| 05:49.33 | sylvanaar | i had to guess at the ram timings |
| 05:49.45 | sylvanaar | i didnt read in advance which to get |
| 05:51.16 | sylvanaar | the problem is 1066mhz mainbus -> 800mhz memory, what voltage will it need and what timings |
| 05:53.24 | sylvanaar | lol, i need to check before i take my machine apart |
| 05:54.41 | sylvanaar | anyone know what the difference btw 975 and 965 chipsets is |
| 05:56.58 | NightHawkTheSane | hmm. will clearfont2 recognize fonts registered in SML? |
| 05:57.10 | Kirkburn|afk | Not until someone codes it to :P |
| 05:57.17 | *** mode/#wowace [+b *!*@*.dsl.bcvloh.ameritech.net] by Tem |
| 05:57.17 | *** kick/#wowace [pwnercake!n=tardmrr@WoWUIDev/WoWI/Dongle/Tem] by Tem (Tem) |
| 05:57.19 | NightHawkTheSane | hm. i see. |
| 05:57.33 | Tem | yeah that's right |
| 05:57.35 | NightHawkTheSane | then, is there a stupidly easy way of adding a font to clearfont? |
| 05:57.38 | ckknight | pwnercake? |
| 05:57.45 | Tem | all ameritech customers can suck it |
| 05:57.51 | NightHawkTheSane | lol |
| 05:57.57 | Kirkburn|afk | ckknight, <evulhotdog> from earlier |
| 05:57.58 | Bam__ | :O |
| 05:58.02 | ckknight | ah. |
| 05:58.10 | Kirkburn|afk | NightHawkTheSane, FontPack? |
| 05:58.31 | Kirkburn|afk | There's four on the SVN to study :P (I think 4 is the most up to date) |
| 05:59.02 | NightHawkTheSane | er, what's the difference between them? Is it just 4 different font sets? |
| 05:59.11 | Kirkburn|afk | yup |
| 05:59.23 | Kirkburn|afk | I think there's some slight code differences though |
| 05:59.26 | NightHawkTheSane | any good list of what fonts are in each? :D |
| 06:00.20 | [Ammo] | morning |
| 06:00.27 | *** join/#wowace ven (i=ven@i59F548B5.versanet.de) |
| 06:00.55 | Sole | hi ammo |
| 06:00.59 | Sole | hmm |
| 06:01.02 | CIA-23 | 03ckknight * r35175 10DogTag-1.0/DogTag-1.0/DogTag-1.0.lua: |
| 06:01.02 | CIA-23 | DogTag-1.0 - as a way to optimize, tags/modifiers can now specify the negation of themselves, which allows for less CPU time in the compiled version. |
| 06:01.02 | CIA-23 | - also for tags/modifiers that don't return nil (only numbers/strings) and are negated are instantly turned into nil. |
| 06:01.14 | Sole | so I have a double wall plug |
| 06:01.17 | Sole | and Ive got 2 comps set up |
| 06:01.29 | Sole | one has a 560W power supply and one has a 400W power supply |
| 06:01.35 | Sole | wonder if it'l go boom if I turn them both on |
| 06:01.40 | Sole | stupid curiousty -_- |
| 06:01.50 | NightHawkTheSane | I suggest flip the switch then run for the door |
| 06:01.59 | Funkeh` | lol |
| 06:02.04 | Sole | lol |
| 06:02.11 | nymbia | or the circuit breaker |
| 06:02.23 | NightHawkTheSane | nah, door's much more cinematic. |
| 06:02.28 | Sole | hahah |
| 06:02.49 | NightHawkTheSane | I mean, no one's going to be amazed if it starts go but he shuts it down safely by flipping a breaker. But when he flees his door followed by an explosion, damn, that's just cool. |
| 06:03.26 | [Ammo] | you've been watching too many movies NHTS |
| 06:04.31 | Sole | I like that scenario |
| 06:04.56 | NightHawkTheSane | [Ammo]: but that doesn't mean i'm not right. |
| 06:05.31 | [Ammo] | that's not what I said, you did forget the matrix style dive on the lawn |
| 06:06.04 | NightHawkTheSane | Ah, true that. |
| 06:06.34 | [Ammo] | 8am saturday morning rightnow and I have a BBQ and beer in 2 hours |
| 06:06.38 | [Ammo] | it's going to be a good weekend |
| 06:06.50 | Funkeh` | [Ammo]: wtb :( |
| 06:07.35 | NightHawkTheSane | .. /hate |
| 06:08.22 | ckknight | is the %b thingy for strings documented anywhere? |
| 06:08.34 | sylvanaar | A/C line power deals with total amps |
| 06:10.37 | sylvanaar | sole so you would need to know volts derive amps |
| 06:11.41 | Sole | ? |
| 06:12.18 | Sole | anyway gonna go try turn of parallel port and some serial ports on my other comp |
| 06:12.22 | sylvanaar | Sole to blow things up, you'd need to figure how many amps of current you use |
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| 06:15.34 | sylvanaar | your circuit breaker is prolly 10amps, and if you maxed your psus i dont think you could pull 10 amps, so you are safe |
| 06:17.14 | nymbia | only time i've hit breaker limit was from the vacuum ;) |
| 06:17.28 | sylvanaar | yeah, when you started it? |
| 06:17.34 | nymbia | yup |
| 06:17.36 | sylvanaar | yeah |
| 06:17.53 | nymbia | in this apartment, anyway.. last apartment they'd blow if you looked at em funny |
| 06:18.05 | sylvanaar | when you turn on a motor it draws extra current |
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| 06:18.57 | sylvanaar | for the first instant then it lowers once it begins to move |
| 06:20.28 | sylvanaar | grr, reboot required |
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| 06:30.14 | Fisker- | it stops today |
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| 06:34.33 | Funkeh` | moff, later all |
| 06:36.04 | CIA-23 | 03ammo * r35176 10BigWigs_Debugger/Debugger.lua: BigWigs_Debugger: less spam in the chatframe |
| 06:36.07 | CIA-23 | 03ckknight * r35177 10DogTag-1.0/DogTag-1.0/DogTag-1.0.lua: DogTag-1.0 - parser now uses %b[] and %b() to figure out groupings. This allows for stuff like [Text(pants (they're great))] working. This is really a prelimary action for most devious of devious deeds. |
| 06:38.00 | nymbia | ckknight: lol |
| 06:38.05 | ckknight | basically, I want to add nesting. |
| 06:38.50 | ckknight | and evaluation |
| 06:39.13 | ckknight | for crazy stuff like [level#player?Equals([level#pet])?text(oh noes!)] |
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| 06:40.31 | nymbia | that'd be fun. |
| 06:40.55 | ckknight | yea |
| 06:41.43 | ckknight | also the nesting of stuff like [[Status?Text(Gone)!CurHP]:red] |
| 06:42.21 | Bam__ | ckknight: do you use the Subversion bundle in TextMate? |
| 06:42.29 | ckknight | yes. |
| 06:42.34 | ckknight | ctrl-shift-A ftw |
| 06:42.42 | Bam__ | ok dont upgrade to the newest.. it's broken :/ |
| 06:43.11 | ckknight | k. |
| 06:43.13 | ckknight | lame. |
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| 06:43.43 | NightHawkTheSane | good to know |
| 06:44.15 | Bam__ | only matters if you update from the Bundles SVN... the newest official one is fine |
| 06:44.21 | Sole | sylvanaar: my NIC works now |
| 06:44.28 | Sole | sylvanaar: but the net still doesnt :( |
| 06:45.29 | ckknight | Bam__: I use the SVN :-P |
| 06:46.03 | Bam__ | ok... then do svn up -r 7227 |
| 06:46.05 | Bam__ | for now :P |
| 06:46.45 | Bam__ | it's the commit command that's broken.. dunno about others |
| 06:47.47 | ckknight | dude, I just won't update |
| 06:47.59 | ckknight | tell me when it's fixed ;-) |
| 06:48.01 | Bam__ | chicken :P |
| 06:48.06 | ckknight | NO U |
| 06:48.10 | Bam__ | :D |
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| 06:48.56 | Bam__ | it was my first attempt at using bundles from SVN... are they generally stable? |
| 06:49.29 | ckknight | oh yea |
| 06:49.43 | ckknight | I only update once a month or so, though |
| 06:49.45 | Bam__ | ok guess I'm just unlucky :P |
| 06:50.21 | Bam__ | hmm the update was made a very short while ago.. perhaps he is working hard on it right now :D |
| 06:52.29 | CIA-23 | 03ckknight * r35178 10DogTag-1.0/DogTag-1.0/DogTag-1.0.lua: DogTag-1.0 - make the text cleaner mechanism easier to bear, i.e. gets rid of duplicate | symbols as well as them on the start or end. This should make things easier for people who separate by the | symbol. |
| 06:54.48 | CIA-23 | 03ckknight * r35179 10PitBull/Layouts/ABF.lua: PitBull_Layouts/ABF - make the health text not do the funky :Append( | ) thing, it's unnecessary now with the newest DogTag-1.0 change. |
| 06:56.28 | Fisker- | anyone know what's wrong with the seerah layout btw? |
| 06:58.00 | Sole | grr |
| 06:58.19 | ulic | don't you hate it when you run an instance, and not a single piece of loot drops for the classes you have? |
| 06:58.28 | Sole | ouch |
| 06:58.53 | ulic | blizzard needs to rethink the completely random loot tables. |
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| 06:59.52 | Sole | Ive been saying that for years |
| 07:00.02 | Sole | random loot tables make me cry |
| 07:00.20 | sylvanaar | man, this old jumpdrive secure is a POS, i can use the software nor can i reformat it |
| 07:01.13 | Sole | -_- |
| 07:01.31 | ulic | I can handle some randomness, but let it all be random, groups that spend a few hours doing a run and get nothing makes people unhappy, as do POS jumpdrives :) |
| 07:01.45 | sylvanaar | lol |
| 07:02.03 | ulic | I ran mine through the washing machine |
| 07:02.13 | Sole | finding a driver for a "PCI Simple Communications Controller" is fun |
| 07:02.14 | ulic | didn't try it again, I should have, after it dried out. |
| 07:04.00 | Sole | lol the label on this modem card has a typo |
| 07:04.31 | Sole | "This Puretek 3525 Voice modern may be connected to the Telecom Network." |
| 07:04.42 | Sole | gogo modern |
| 07:05.49 | NightHawkTheSane | god, i hate alliance assholes |
| 07:07.11 | ckknight | NightHawkTheSane: oh? |
| 07:07.44 | sylvanaar | lol Sole |
| 07:08.06 | sylvanaar | get its PnP info and google it |
| 07:08.07 | NightHawkTheSane | what, you enjoy being repeatedly killed while just grinding rep? |
| 07:08.36 | Sole | sylvanaar: already downloading a driver for this card |
| 07:08.49 | sylvanaar | ah, ok |
| 07:09.06 | sylvanaar | so it wasnt an intel card? |
| 07:10.00 | CIA-23 | 03ckknight * r35180 10DogTag-1.0/DogTag-1.0/DogTag-1.0.lua: |
| 07:10.00 | CIA-23 | DogTag-1.0 - in the compiled code, don't create the tmp table if it is unneeded. |
| 07:10.00 | CIA-23 | e.g. `[CurHP]` is just "return UnitHealth(unit)", but `[CurHP]/[MaxHP]` needs a |
| 07:10.00 | CIA-23 | string buffer to put the parts [CurHP], /, and [MaxHP] into. |
| 07:10.08 | sylvanaar | the memory configuration tool on this web site say "call" for my motherboard |
| 07:10.30 | ckknight | NightHawkTheSane: PvP server? |
| 07:10.38 | NightHawkTheSane | ckknight: obviously |
| 07:10.46 | Tekkub | duh, they want to sell to you, they don't want you thinking for yourself |
| 07:10.46 | ckknight | I'm not fond of PvP servers |
| 07:10.51 | ckknight | just seems like a gankfest |
| 07:11.03 | NightHawkTheSane | Neither am I. It is, but my "friends" rolled here, so meh. |
| 07:11.18 | ckknight | hrm |
| 07:13.19 | CIA-23 | 03ckknight * r35181 10DogTag-1.0/DogTag-1.0/DogTag-1.0.lua: DogTag-1.0 - typo |
| 07:14.17 | Sole | sylvanaar: it was an intel card |
| 07:14.21 | Sole | sylvanaar: theres a 2nd card too |
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| 07:26.02 | sylvanaar | Im wondering if vista will in-place upgrade |
| 07:26.02 | sylvanaar | its drivers |
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| 07:27.26 | Neebler | Kirkburn, is their an old clearfont up for download somewhere? Where it's just a .xml file with like 10 lines of code, that changes the default chat text + combat text? |
| 07:27.49 | Neebler | I recall editing clearfont when it first came out to be just 10 lines, as I only wanted to edit those two fonts in the game |
| 07:28.38 | Kirkburn | Neebler, link on website |
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| 07:28.52 | CIA-23 | 03nymbia * r35182 10Quartz/Buffs.lua: |
| 07:28.52 | CIA-23 | Quartz: Buffs: |
| 07:28.52 | CIA-23 | - Show the number of stacks of buffs and debuffs on the name text. |
| 07:29.30 | Kirkburn | The website has links, CG stores old versions, as does WorldofWar /and/ WoWI :/ |
| 07:29.44 | Fisker- | btw nymbia |
| 07:29.56 | Fisker- | you should remove spellranks for spells with no ranks |
| 07:31.19 | nymbia | i thought i did? |
| 07:31.32 | nymbia | whats it display? |
| 07:31.38 | Fisker- | Spell () |
| 07:31.52 | nymbia | oh with full text on? |
| 07:31.55 | Fisker- | yeah |
| 07:33.34 | CIA-23 | 03nymbia * r35183 10Quartz/Quartz.lua: |
| 07:33.34 | CIA-23 | Quartz: |
| 07:33.34 | CIA-23 | - Fix full rank text mode to not display empty strings (or stuff like '(Racial)') |
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| 07:36.04 | ckknight | woo, got [Text([level])] to work |
| 07:36.35 | nymbia | neat |
| 07:37.45 | ckknight | and, as would expect stuff like [Text([Level] [Class:ClassColor])] works |
| 07:38.01 | ckknight | it essentially creates another compiled path inside the () |
| 07:39.30 | ckknight | and can theoretically have as many sub-paths as you want |
| 07:39.46 | ckknight | so [Text([Text([Text([Level])])])] should work. |
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| 07:41.10 | ckknight | and it does. |
| 07:41.11 | ckknight | yays |
| 07:41.28 | Bam__ | \o/ |
| 07:42.55 | CIA-23 | 03ckknight * r35184 10DogTag-1.0/DogTag-1.0/DogTag-1.0.lua: DogTag-1.0 - added nesting inside parameters, so that things like "[Text([Level])]" work fine. The string inside the parameters can be any relevant tag sequence. Note: Aliasing does not work yet. |
| 07:43.02 | ckknight | frankly, I doubt many people will use this |
| 07:43.08 | ckknight | but it's a fun exercise for me. |
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| 07:51.02 | Fisker- | yay |
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| 07:55.20 | CIA-23 | 03nymbia * r35185 10Quartz/Latency.lua: |
| 07:55.20 | CIA-23 | Quartz: Latency: |
| 07:55.20 | CIA-23 | - A couple bugfixes from oversights seperating the files. |
| 07:57.06 | CIA-23 | 03ckknight * r35186 10DogTag-1.0/DogTag-1.0/DogTag-1.0.lua: DogTag-1.0 - make aliasing and case-fixing work for internal expressions, e.g. "[text([level:isgreater(5)])]" => "[Text([Level:~IsLessEqual(5)])]" |
| 07:57.51 | ckknight | still, mwahaha, Aloft's got nothing on me now |
| 07:57.57 | ckknight | with its internal expressions and whatnot |
| 08:00.26 | nymbia | hehe |
| 08:01.29 | ckknight | it's mine now! |
| 08:01.43 | ckknight | and I've still got DogTag-1.0 to be quite efficient, really |
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| 08:07.45 | nymbia | nice |
| 08:08.02 | nymbia | 1.5 ms / s with 5 wacky frames up |
| 08:08.15 | CIA-23 | 03ckknight * r35187 10DogTag-1.0/DogTag-1.0/DogTag-1.0.lua: DogTag-1.0 - bugfix in internal expressions, so that a sequence, e.g. [Text([Level] [Class])] will work instead of just a single tag. |
| 08:08.30 | ckknight | nymbia: that's not bad at all, imho |
| 08:08.34 | ckknight | for all that it does |
| 08:08.42 | nymbia | yeah definitely |
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| 08:11.31 | Sole | lol@my friend |
| 08:11.56 | Sole | me: "Ive started learning python" friend:"Python is shit!" me:"Why?" friend:"Just because...." |
| 08:12.00 | Sole | I love arrogance |
| 08:12.04 | nymbia | haha |
| 08:16.58 | Sole | hmm what pizza to order |
| 08:17.43 | Fisker- | HAM! |
| 08:18.26 | nymbia | Fisker-: YOURE A HAM |
| 08:18.37 | ckknight | nymbia: YOUR RETARTED |
| 08:19.07 | NightHawkTheSane | hm. Despite being an excellent programming font, ProFont isn't so good inside WoW. |
| 08:20.44 | Sole | I imagine it wouldnt be |
| 08:20.59 | Sole | hmm what pizza to get |
| 08:21.37 | Sole | hay, if I pay by CC for pizza delivery do I gotta show em my CC when I sign for it? |
| 08:21.52 | Fisker- | can't see why you should :P |
| 08:21.54 | nymbia | usually not |
| 08:21.56 | Sole | last time I did that was about 2am several months back so my meory is hazy |
| 08:22.05 | Sole | hokay thankees |
| 08:22.15 | NightHawkTheSane | not usually, no just sign the recipt |
| 08:22.20 | nymbia | did you eat your credit card? |
| 08:22.22 | Sole | no |
| 08:22.22 | NightHawkTheSane | er.. punctuate that properly |
| 08:22.38 | Sole | its within 2 meters of me nymbia |
| 08:22.43 | Sole | somewhere.... |
| 08:22.46 | nymbia | rofl |
| 08:22.47 | NightHawkTheSane | well, don't eat it. |
| 08:22.55 | Sole | good thing I know the info ^_^ |
| 08:22.57 | nymbia | ^ |
| 08:23.17 | Sole | what pizza to order |
| 08:23.19 | Sole | hmm |
| 08:24.00 | NightHawkTheSane | medium, with extra cheese, onions, green peppers, and chicken |
| 08:24.12 | Sole | why buy a medium |
| 08:24.14 | nymbia | and a moose |
| 08:24.20 | NightHawkTheSane | Okay, fine, get a large. |
| 08:24.21 | Sole | when I can eat a large with cheese filled crust |
| 08:24.57 | NightHawkTheSane | okay, okay, a large cheese-filled-crust pizza, extra cheese, onions, peppers, chicken, and a moose on the side. |
| 08:25.00 | Sole | < one of them not fat people who eats lots ^_^ |
| 08:25.09 | Sole | ooh a moose |
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| 08:29.27 | ckknight | Sole: I used to be like that, then I stopped eating so much for some reason |
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| 08:29.45 | Sole | its fun :) |
| 08:29.51 | Sole | so long as I keep exercising of course |
| 08:30.07 | ggeorgak | makes i have the weirdest of problems could some1 help? |
| 08:30.10 | ggeorgak | mates* |
| 08:30.17 | Sole | I manage to burn lots of it :) |
| 08:30.42 | ckknight | ggeorgak: what's the issue? |
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| 08:31.51 | ggeorgak | i'm using the Simple Chat option @ interface options and the issue is this: whenever I'm on a zone change or at random times the chat frames get moved slightly down getting hidden behind bottomleft/bottom right actionbar |
| 08:32.08 | ggeorgak | the worst is when I take out water elemental and sometimes pet buttons don't show! |
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| 08:32.23 | ggeorgak | although chat frames are moved above the supposedly should be shown pet buttons |
| 08:32.37 | ggeorgak | or other times the buttons show but the chat frame is not moved upwards |
| 08:32.55 | Leialyn | does it work if you disable simple chat? |
| 08:32.56 | ggeorgak | I'm using FuBar, my res is 1280x1024 and no ui scale |
| 08:33.09 | ggeorgak | nope still the same problem |
| 08:33.18 | ggeorgak | even if I lock my chat setting after I moved em somewhere |
| 08:33.36 | Leialyn | and without all addons ? |
| 08:33.50 | ggeorgak | didn't try that yet |
| 08:34.02 | ggeorgak | oh perhaps this is a good hint, I used to have Titan |
| 08:34.09 | ggeorgak | and that's when the problem started to appear |
| 08:34.17 | ggeorgak | but now titan is gone from my system! |
| 08:34.28 | Sole | lol I love being on hold for the pizza company |
| 08:34.32 | Sole | and the voice over guy is all " |
| 08:34.43 | ggeorgak | let's see with all addons disabled brb |
| 08:34.48 | Sole | "We know your call is urgent and we are processing you to the team leader for urgent assistance!!" |
| 08:34.53 | Sole | <3 automated responses |
| 08:35.33 | Sole | GRR |
| 08:35.41 | Sole | ordering pizza on weekends BLOWS |
| 08:35.47 | Sole | 45 min til I get that shit |
| 08:35.50 | Sole | Im hungry NOW! |
| 08:36.00 | NightHawkTheSane | kill a man, eat his flesh. |
| 08:36.05 | Sole | mabe I shoulda just gone and picked it up |
| 08:36.09 | Sole | only a 3 minute drive -_- |
| 08:36.10 | ggeorgak | seems to work fine with all addons disabled... |
| 08:36.15 | Sole | but I cbf locking up |
| 08:36.19 | ggeorgak | could it be ChatScroll? it's a cosmos leftover |
| 08:36.29 | Sole | yes it could be |
| 08:36.31 | Sole | cosmos is evil |
| 08:36.36 | nymbia | lol |
| 08:36.41 | Leialyn | ^^ |
| 08:36.53 | ggeorgak | yes it is that's why i migrated to ace |
| 08:36.58 | Leialyn | test it ggeorgak ... enable addons one by one and find the evil one |
| 08:37.01 | ggeorgak | but still got some leftovers |
| 08:37.07 | ggeorgak | goddamn leialyn |
| 08:37.10 | ggeorgak | that's painful! |
| 08:37.12 | Leialyn | :p |
| 08:37.29 | ggeorgak | ok i'll enable the supposedly not interacting with chatscroll ones |
| 08:37.33 | NightHawkTheSane | use a binary search, instead of just one-by-one. It'll be faster. |
| 08:37.56 | ggeorgak | hehe |
| 08:38.29 | CIA-23 | 03ckknight * r35188 10DogTag-1.0/DogTag-1.0/DogTag-1.0.lua: |
| 08:38.29 | CIA-23 | DogTag-1.0 - add support for internal expressions within larger expressions and |
| 08:38.29 | CIA-23 | not necessarily within parameters. e.g. [[Status:CurHP]:Red] will color the |
| 08:38.29 | CIA-23 | result of [Status:CurHP] red, whereas [Status:CurHP:Red] would normally only |
| 08:38.29 | CIA-23 | color the CurHP part red. |
| 08:38.36 | Sole | use elimination searching |
| 08:38.39 | NightHawkTheSane | You know, it occurs to me that 'Common Computing Algorithms' ought to be taught in high school and be a required course. |
| 08:38.42 | Sole | enable half your addons |
| 08:38.50 | Sole | and see if it the problem is there |
| 08:38.52 | ggeorgak | i know binary search i'm a comp eng student :P |
| 08:39.00 | Sole | :) |
| 08:39.12 | ckknight | ggeorgak: I like to use Prat. |
| 08:39.17 | ckknight | for my chat mod |
| 08:39.21 | NightHawkTheSane | didn't mean to say you didn't, i'm just saying in general :) |
| 08:39.25 | ggeorgak | i know i'm thinking of migrating to Prat |
| 08:39.34 | ckknight | just do it, go cold turkey |
| 08:39.38 | Sole | since when does ck play WoW? |
| 08:39.40 | ckknight | mmm... cold turkey |
| 08:39.46 | ckknight | Sole: not so often. |
| 08:39.56 | NightHawkTheSane | man, between ckknight and Sole i'm getting hungry. bastards. |
| 08:39.57 | Sole | I was under the impression you just coded :P |
| 08:40.02 | ggeorgak | does anyone know a replacement for BetterItemCount? |
| 08:40.03 | Sole | KEKEK |
| 08:40.09 | ckknight | ggeorgak: what's it do? |
| 08:40.15 | Sole | ggeorgak: no but I dont like the name of that addon so I says delete it |
| 08:40.49 | Sole | ok gonna turn my comp off to turn the other one on |
| 08:40.51 | Sole | cya in 20 min |
| 08:40.55 | ggeorgak | ckknight: Shows #.#k values when >999 instead of * |
| 08:41.12 | ckknight | ggeorgak: oh. I'm sure there's something. I don't know a name off the top of my head, though |
| 08:41.30 | ggeorgak | ok all cosmos leftover dies know... |
| 08:42.35 | ggeorgak | i'm kinda gonna miss khaos |
| 08:42.50 | nymbia | waterfall! |
| 08:43.08 | ggeorgak | yes but doesn't have auctioneer support :( |
| 08:43.24 | Leialyn | We need an ace auction addon |
| 08:43.50 | Leialyn | I like the mass auction feature auf auctioneer but I hate the required tooltip spamming addons |
| 08:44.02 | ggeorgak | just disable informant :) |
| 08:44.44 | Leialyn | when I used auctioneer it says, dependency required, even if I edited toc |
| 08:45.03 | ggeorgak | i've disabled it no problem like that |
| 08:45.19 | Leialyn | ok, but imho auctioneer is just too big |
| 08:45.31 | Leialyn | too much stuff that ppl may not want |
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| 08:46.06 | Leialyn | build it modular like lots of ace addons and then let ppl choose, what they want and what not ^^ |
| 08:46.24 | Diao | can't you just do /informant load never |
| 08:46.27 | Diao | to disable it |
| 08:46.27 | ggeorgak | just auctioneer |
| 08:46.31 | ggeorgak | is good |
| 08:46.43 | ggeorgak | lightweight and with enough features |
| 08:46.53 | ggeorgak | now informa,enchantrix,btmscan all bs for me |
| 08:46.58 | ggeorgak | overbloated |
| 08:48.31 | sylvanaar | they are seeding the patch? |
| 08:48.50 | ckknight | sylvanaar: really? |
| 08:49.00 | ckknight | well, I'm glad that I updated Cartographer already |
| 08:49.07 | ckknight | and PitBull, actually |
| 08:49.10 | ckknight | and Ace2 |
| 08:49.13 | nymbia | haha |
| 08:49.14 | ckknight | I'm prepared. |
| 08:49.24 | ggeorgak | yup patch is d/ling at my pc too |
| 08:49.34 | sylvanaar | yeah, all my shit it updated pretty much |
| 08:50.42 | nymbia | here's the question |
| 08:51.00 | nymbia | when with the first "updated toc to 20100" commit be? |
| 08:51.22 | CIA-23 | 03ckknight * r35189 10DogTag-1.0/DogTag-1.0/DogTag-1.0.lua: DogTag-1.0 - update codeToEventList to handle internal expressions |
| 08:51.30 | ggeorgak | ok gone full ace |
| 08:51.38 | ggeorgak | cosmos is out |
| 08:56.14 | ggeorgak | is mobhealth compatible with x-perl/ |
| 08:56.23 | nymbia | should be |
| 08:56.57 | ggeorgak | ok |
| 08:57.26 | Fisker- | You can use DateTime (in .net) to get the current minute count right? |
| 08:59.47 | ggeorgak | chat problem sees to be gone! |
| 09:00.16 | ckknight | Fisker-: .NET's DateTime objects are 64-bit. Very accurate. You'll be able to get the current minute. |
| 09:00.26 | ckknight | ggeorgak: hoorays |
| 09:00.50 | Fisker- | awesome |
| 09:01.26 | Fisker- | i'm modding WAU a bit to get a better feel of the program and C& |
| 09:01.28 | Fisker- | C# |
| 09:02.26 | Fisker- | Mostly silly stuff, but you gotta start somewhere :P |
| 09:04.21 | CIA-23 | 03ckknight * r35190 10DogTag-1.0/DogTag-1.0/DogTag-1.0.lua: |
| 09:04.21 | CIA-23 | DogTag-1.0 - make existing tags and arguments work properly with dynamic args. |
| 09:04.21 | CIA-23 | - fix the [[blah]] syntax. |
| 09:05.03 | sylvanaar | Fisker- wau's code is sorta brittle |
| 09:05.25 | nymbia | don't look at it funny or you might break it |
| 09:05.29 | nymbia | O.o |
| 09:05.52 | Fisker- | :o |
| 09:05.57 | Fisker- | haven't broken anything yet |
| 09:06.12 | Bibi`ouF | Fisker- is breaking things ? what a surprise. |
| 09:06.35 | ckknight | well, hurrah. DogTag-1.0 has fully working internal expressions. |
| 09:06.39 | ckknight | sing praises, Fisker- |
| 09:06.58 | Fisker- | i don't know any :( |
| 09:07.04 | nymbia | do it anyway |
| 09:07.23 | sylvanaar | Fisker- its coded in such a way that is does its one thing well - but can otherwise be difficult to modify |
| 09:07.23 | ckknight | fair enough. |
| 09:08.05 | Fisker- | http://www.developersdevelopersdevelopers.dk/wau.JPG <-wins |
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| 09:10.14 | Fisker- | also looks like Auction house will be getting freetext search next patch |
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| 09:13.45 | nymbia | Fisker-: LIES |
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| 09:18.29 | evl_ | Hmms, giev patch |
| 09:18.29 | evl_ | tired of hoarding honor |
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| 09:18.37 | Ominous | hmm i if you get a neterdrake do you still need 300 flying mount skill |
| 09:18.48 | Ominous | s/i/u/ |
| 09:18.54 | nymbia | Ominous: yeah |
| 09:19.18 | NightHawkTheSane | you need 300 to -get- the netherdrake |
| 09:20.43 | Fisker- | nooo nymbia |
| 09:20.48 | Fisker- | not lies |
| 09:20.59 | Fisker- | you can't start the quests without 300 flying skill |
| 09:21.38 | Ominous | nymbia: do i need to add GLP to my addons if im using the code u said i could? |
| 09:21.52 | nymbia | Ominous: nah |
| 09:21.55 | Fisker- | atleast that's what Vaneras says |
| 09:21.58 | Ominous | nymbia: ok :) |
| 09:23.11 | Ominous | afk |
| 09:23.20 | Fisker- | You can type in part of the word, and all applicable items containing those characters will be displayed. Adding erroneous characters will obviously prevent what you're looking for from displaying. Also, if searching for an item in your own inventory to run a price check for instance, before placing an auction, you can simply shift-left-click the item into the text field, similar to how you'd link an item into chat. |
| 09:24.23 | Fisker- | :( |
| 09:24.50 | ckknight | Ominous|afk: GPL, not GLP :-P |
| 09:25.02 | Fisker- | btw |
| 09:25.10 | Fisker- | You should take in custom styles |
| 09:25.26 | Fisker- | for health text and all that |
| 09:26.07 | ckknight | take in? |
| 09:26.34 | Fisker- | I mean like users can post their custom styles |
| 09:26.43 | Fisker- | and if interresting you could put them in |
| 09:26.50 | Fisker- | or themselves |
| 09:26.53 | ckknight | I have no issue with that |
| 09:26.53 | Fisker- | or nymbia |
| 09:27.02 | Ominous|afk | ckknight: BAH spelling FTL |
| 09:32.11 | ckknight | Fisker-: http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=6037.0 |
| 09:33.11 | ckknight | I wonder what ag` thinks about having agUF use DogTag-1.0 |
| 09:33.18 | Fisker- | cool |
| 09:37.00 | Ominous|afk | ckknight: i thought he said he wanted to wait till it was improved, |
| 09:37.24 | ckknight | oh yea, before I made it efficient |
| 09:37.38 | ckknight | before, there was a really nasty bug that made it eek up a whole bunch of CPU time |
| 09:37.40 | ckknight | which was fixed |
| 09:37.48 | ckknight | I'd like to know what he thinks now, though |
| 09:37.52 | Ominous|afk | ah k |
| 09:38.05 | ckknight | cause, as nymbia was saying before, 1.5 ms/s, with wacky frames showing |
| 09:38.09 | Ominous|afk | btw is CreateFrame('Texture', nil, UIParent) valid? |
| 09:38.10 | ckknight | which is very cheap |
| 09:38.20 | ckknight | no, Ominous|afk |
| 09:38.24 | Ominous|afk | ok |
| 09:38.30 | ckknight | UIParent:CreateTexture(nil, "ARTWORK") |
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| 09:46.04 | CIA-23 | 03ckknight * r35191 10DogTag-1.0/DogTag-1.0/DogTag-1.0.lua: DogTag-1.0 - renamed ManaColor to PowerColor |
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| 09:54.03 | CIA-23 | 03ckknight * r35192 10DogTag-1.0/DogTag-1.0/DogTag-1.0.lua: DogTag-1.0 - replace most of the *Mana tags with *MP tags. e.g. CurMana => CurMP. There's aliases set up for backwards compatibility for now. |
| 09:55.49 | CIA-23 | 03ckknight * r35193 10PitBull/Layouts/ABF.lua: PitBull_Layouts/ABF - change all DogTag-1.0 *Mana references to *MP |
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| 09:58.46 | sylvanaar | oh, ckknight i had a question about acelibrary and loading |
| 09:58.52 | ckknight | k? |
| 09:59.51 | sylvanaar | when you try to load something that is LoD but not enabled, why not enable it, then load it vs returning an error |
| 10:00.32 | sylvanaar | since enabled has no meaning for LoD addons |
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| 10:01.14 | sylvanaar | i can think of reasons why not, but in most cases you would want to |
| 10:01.54 | ckknight | dunno, it was Tekkub's implementation. |
| 10:02.04 | ckknight | could be worthwhile enabling |
| 10:02.32 | sylvanaar | idk, could cut down on some of the load failures |
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| 10:04.07 | fritz | hi |
| 10:06.29 | ckknight | hey fritz |
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| 10:10.10 | CIA-23 | 03nymbia * r35194 10Quartz/ (7 files): |
| 10:10.10 | CIA-23 | Quartz: |
| 10:10.10 | CIA-23 | - A couple little bugfixes. |
| 10:10.10 | CIA-23 | - Add Target and Focus casting bar modules. |
| 10:10.10 | CIA-23 | - Add options for copying settings between target/focus/player castbars. (they share colors/backgrounds, everything else is independent) |
| 10:13.29 | nymbia | ;) |
| 10:16.43 | Fisker- | btw |
| 10:16.49 | Fisker- | just to keep you occupied |
| 10:16.57 | Fisker- | Any chance you'd put in x/y sliders? |
| 10:17.15 | Fisker- | want to have mine centered, but a bit lower vertically |
| 10:17.28 | Fisker- | and my mouse skills suck |
| 10:17.43 | nymbia | Fisker-: why not just move it vertically then use the snap to center option? |
| 10:17.56 | Fisker- | :o |
| 10:17.58 | Fisker- | didn't see that |
| 10:18.32 | Fisker- | ah |
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| 10:18.36 | Fisker- | that one still centers it :i |
| 10:18.37 | CIA-23 | 03nymbia * r35195 10GrindStatus/GrindStatus.lua: |
| 10:18.37 | CIA-23 | GrindStatus: |
| 10:18.37 | CIA-23 | - Fix a nil error. |
| 10:18.43 | Fisker- | doh |
| 10:18.53 | nymbia | Fisker-: break it? |
| 10:19.49 | Fisker- | i feel stupid :P |
| 10:19.55 | nymbia | rofl |
| 10:20.11 | fritz | trust your feelings |
| 10:20.31 | nymbia | burn. |
| 10:21.57 | CIA-23 | 03ckknight * r35196 10PitBull/ (17 files in 6 dirs): PitBull - rename Mana module to Power |
| 10:22.13 | Fisker- | indeed |
| 10:22.19 | CIA-23 | 03ckknight * r35197 10PitBull_BarFader/ (PitBull_BarFader.lua PitBull_BarFader.toc): PitBull_BarFader - update for Mana => Power change. |
| 10:22.27 | ckknight | *thumbs up* |
| 10:22.48 | ckknight | downside: people lose their mana settings |
| 10:23.02 | ckknight | upside: it makes slightly more sense if they don't use mana |
| 10:23.48 | CIA-23 | 03nymbia * r35198 10Quartz/ (Focus.lua Quartz.lua Target.lua): |
| 10:23.48 | CIA-23 | Quartz: |
| 10:23.48 | CIA-23 | - Don't let frames be sneaky with 0 alpha from fading out when they're unlocked. |
| 10:24.02 | nymbia | not like they need their settings anyway ;) |
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| 10:24.29 | [dRaCo] | hm, nymbia: which spell would you use for gcd on a shaman? |
| 10:24.44 | NightHawkTheSane | I used Healing Wave |
| 10:24.53 | [dRaCo] | can be interrupted |
| 10:24.57 | nymbia | [dRaCo]: just grab one from two schools of spell |
| 10:25.04 | NightHawkTheSane | true, could use a totem |
| 10:25.12 | NightHawkTheSane | soe/goa/et |
| 10:25.12 | NightHawkTheSane | c |
| 10:25.40 | nymbia | if your primary spell's on a cooldown longer than the global cooldown, it'll check your backup |
| 10:25.49 | NightHawkTheSane | nymbia: sadly, shaman have one spell school: nature. >< |
| 10:26.16 | [dRaCo] | argh, wtb drag'n'drop for spells ;) |
| 10:26.28 | ven | what about racial abilities? don't they have gcd, too? |
| 10:26.39 | nymbia | ven: some do |
| 10:26.46 | NightHawkTheSane | not all racials are on the gcd though |
| 10:27.06 | nymbia | NightHawkTheSane: maybe use flame shock or something? it'll be on cooldown sometimes, but, better than nothing |
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| 10:27.18 | [dRaCo] | totems are fine |
| 10:27.29 | Fisker- | hmm nymbia :o |
| 10:27.31 | NightHawkTheSane | yeah, totems are probably the best bet |
| 10:27.38 | nymbia | yeah |
| 10:27.45 | NightHawkTheSane | i dont think those are part of a school |
| 10:27.49 | Fisker- | is the bar supposed to show up for a second or so when you're out of mana? |
| 10:27.59 | nymbia | wha |
| 10:28.01 | nymbia | no |
| 10:28.07 | nymbia | what were you casting |
| 10:28.23 | Fisker- | redemption |
| 10:28.29 | Fisker- | also did it with a greater blessing |
| 10:28.34 | Fisker- | (because of gcd) |
| 10:28.58 | Fisker- | keeps showing redemption as the cast spell though |
| 10:29.55 | sylvanaar | ckknight here is the patch for the acelibrary change http://ace.pastey.net/27842 |
| 10:30.06 | nymbia | Fisker-: i so fixed that bug... what rev are you on |
| 10:30.10 | ckknight | sylvanaar: do you not have Ace2 permissions? |
| 10:30.20 | sylvanaar | no i doubt it - lemee see |
| 10:31.32 | Fisker- | dunno |
| 10:31.39 | Fisker- | just gonna reload ui with the newest |
| 10:31.52 | nymbia | ok |
| 10:31.54 | CIA-23 | 03ckknight * r35199 10DogTag-1.0/DogTag-1.0/DogTag-1.0.lua: DogTag-1.0 - rename [Connect] to [Offline] |
| 10:31.56 | sylvanaar | 403 forbidden |
| 10:32.06 | ckknight | okay |
| 10:32.10 | ckknight | I'll handle it, then |
| 10:32.23 | ckknight | sylvanaar: why do you disable, though? |
| 10:33.04 | ckknight | seems like it shouldn't |
| 10:33.24 | Fisker- | yeah fixed |
| 10:33.24 | ckknight | unless it was previously disabled |
| 10:33.24 | sylvanaar | it was |
| 10:33.24 | ckknight | wait, no, nvm |
| 10:33.27 | ckknight | ah, okay |
| 10:33.29 | ckknight | I understand |
| 10:33.45 | sylvanaar | it works wonders for me ... no loading errors |
| 10:35.16 | ckknight | local isondemand = IsAddOnLoadOnDemand(addon) does nothing |
| 10:35.27 | ckknight | should I do a check for it or get rid of it? |
| 10:35.31 | sylvanaar | lol |
| 10:35.32 | sylvanaar | yes |
| 10:35.46 | ckknight | that's not an answer. |
| 10:36.03 | sylvanaar | you should check for it |
| 10:37.10 | Neebler | http://almy.us/image/dungeon.jpg |
| 10:37.14 | Neebler | hella sweet :P |
| 10:37.20 | ckknight | another slight issue I found |
| 10:37.31 | ckknight | loadable = enabled or TryToEnable(addon) |
| 10:37.35 | ckknight | would be better as |
| 10:37.36 | ckknight | loadable = (enabled and loadable) or TryToEnable(addon) |
| 10:37.57 | sylvanaar | ok |
| 10:37.58 | ckknight | or so... |
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| 10:38.49 | sylvanaar | its like the other check i left out, redundant to an extent, but smart to put in |
| 10:39.26 | a-stray-cat | is there an event fired when you hit the alt key? |
| 10:39.28 | ckknight | lousy race conditions |
| 10:39.32 | ckknight | yes, a-stray-cat |
| 10:39.34 | ckknight | MODIFIER_CHANGED |
| 10:39.36 | ckknight | or so |
| 10:40.03 | CIA-23 | 03ckknight * r35200 10Ace2/AceLibrary/AceLibrary.lua: .AceLibrary - as well as loading LoD addons that are libraries, try to enable them as well. (thanks sylvanaar) |
| 10:40.09 | a-stray-cat | thankie |
| 10:40.15 | nymbia | ckknight: can i convince you to revert AceEvent to 32527? |
| 10:40.29 | ckknight | nymbia: you can try. see how it goes |
| 10:40.39 | ckknight | try to convince me, that is |
| 10:40.47 | ckknight | I'm not horribly stubborn |
| 10:42.29 | sylvanaar | ckknight TryToEnable(addon) -> TryToEnable(name) |
| 10:42.36 | ckknight | lame |
| 10:43.30 | CIA-23 | 03ckknight * r35201 10Ace2/AceLibrary/AceLibrary.lua: .AceLibrary - typo |
| 10:43.33 | nymbia | ckknight: under otherwise identical conditions, 33858 is showing 8-9 ms/s, 5-6 ms/s on 32527 |
| 10:43.56 | ckknight | :-( |
| 10:44.10 | ckknight | nymbia: what about memory usages? |
| 10:44.19 | nymbia | moment, lemme compare. |
| 10:44.45 | ckknight | and note that memory may be spread across the board with the newer revision |
| 10:48.15 | nymbia | ckknight: 2 reloads each, 32527 got 189kb then 190kb, 33858 got 214 kb then 206kb |
| 10:48.24 | ckknight | hrm. |
| 10:48.38 | ckknight | I pronounce lameness |
| 10:49.02 | nymbia | heh ;) |
| 10:49.48 | sylvanaar | ckknight i think andother copy of the loadable= line at 382 to catch resolved lib names |
| 10:50.56 | art3mis | wierd |
| 10:51.08 | art3mis | were there any massive changes in addons lately? |
| 10:51.09 | sylvanaar | im going to try it from logged out, just enabling ace2 and prat - see if it loads |
| 10:51.19 | art3mis | updated my stuff after like 3 weeks of not |
| 10:51.20 | nymbia | art3mis: today, every day. ;) |
| 10:51.23 | CIA-23 | 03ckknight * r35202 10Ace2/AceLibrary/AceLibrary.lua: .AceLibrary - add another line with which to try to load addons. |
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| 10:51.41 | art3mis | and sct aguf and a few others would load but thier /commands wouldnt function nor did the addon do anything |
| 10:51.51 | a-stray-cat | anyone here particularly knowledgeable about candybars? |
| 10:51.57 | sylvanaar | it does! whee! |
| 10:52.04 | ckknight | sylvanaar: pants. |
| 10:52.14 | ckknight | a-stray-cat: I hacked it into submission once. |
| 10:52.20 | nymbia | art3mis: there's a thread or five about it, short version is make sure all your ace2 libs are up to date |
| 10:52.23 | sylvanaar | ckknight: underpants are in order |
| 10:52.27 | ckknight | ooh. |
| 10:52.41 | nymbia | hawt. |
| 10:52.42 | art3mis | nods usually it does must have missed a couple |
| 10:52.42 | a-stray-cat | if i set a bar to have an onclick function, can i set it to be clickthrough again later? |
| 10:53.01 | a-stray-cat | omg how do people keep ganking me while i sit in obsucre locations on test coding |
| 10:53.04 | a-stray-cat | at 4 in the morning no less |
| 10:53.13 | art3mis | and once again whoever went through and changed all the libs to be Lib: <libname> in the addon list, thanks |
| 10:53.17 | a-stray-cat | hello res sickness. |
| 10:53.25 | nymbia | a-stray-cat: frame:EnableMouse(false) |
| 10:53.27 | ckknight | lol, a-stray-cat |
| 10:53.37 | ckknight | art3mis: that's me |
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| 10:53.56 | art3mis | we need a lame and not lame tag now |
| 10:53.59 | art3mis | ;) |
| 10:54.11 | nymbia | haha |
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| 10:54.36 | Fisker- | :( |
| 10:54.42 | Fisker- | i see where this is going |
| 10:54.42 | art3mis | so i can tell my lamer percentage just buy counting the "lame" modules i have |
| 10:54.44 | ckknight | [Lame] just translates to value = UnitName(${unit}) == "art3mis" and "True" |
| 10:54.50 | Fisker- | phew |
| 10:54.52 | art3mis | already got taht running |
| 10:54.57 | ckknight | for DogTag, at least |
| 10:55.03 | ckknight | not sure what you're referring to |
| 10:55.04 | a-stray-cat | nymbia: i don't really have a way to get at the candybar frames |
| 10:55.04 | art3mis | it makes for awesome screen shots and chatlogs |
| 10:55.10 | nymbia | i'd like to say that the -Ace2- is the 'not lame' tag, however, i looked at the StatLogic code last night and still feel dirty. |
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| 10:55.31 | art3mis | well not specificly lame tags.. |
| 10:55.35 | nymbia | a-stray-cat: you should be able to get at 'em with a bit of hax |
| 10:55.39 | ckknight | hey, can somebody go through http://www.wowace.com/wiki/DogTag-1.0#List_of_tags and tell me if anything should be named differently, if anything should be added/removed/etc? |
| 10:55.51 | art3mis | i'd love for all ace addons to get a sub apphendage for thier "type"? |
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| 10:56.09 | ckknight | art3mis: takes too much space :-P |
| 10:56.11 | art3mis | and maybe force people to make read mes |
| 10:56.15 | sylvanaar | use an in game tool art3mis |
| 10:56.21 | nymbia | art3mis: they do! it's just not displayable in ye olde list in the space we have |
| 10:56.46 | art3mis | you'd be surprised at how many addons i have that i dont use and leave there cuz i cant remember what they do ;P |
| 10:56.58 | nymbia | lol |
| 10:57.16 | NightHawkTheSane | i think that constitutes a problem with your memory, and not how they're displayed ;) |
| 10:57.41 | nymbia | can't it be both? |
| 10:57.41 | art3mis | that and i load it and see all the unticks, and then just exit the game and forget to just delete the dirs next time heh |
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| 10:57.51 | art3mis | wodner if they're gonna add the ability to delete addons from the addon page |
| 10:57.56 | art3mis | that would be handy |
| 10:58.10 | Fisker- | btw Bibi`ouF |
| 10:58.11 | nymbia | ckknight: i like the description of fuchsia |
| 10:58.13 | Fisker- | archimonde is hot |
| 10:58.16 | Fisker- | (literally) |
| 10:58.41 | ckknight | nymbia: I figure it's the best way to describe it. |
| 10:59.11 | art3mis | NightHawkTheSane: yeah thers definitely a bad block in there somewheres, unfortunately all the mem tests i run don't show it, only applications do and it's never at the same place ;) |
| 10:59.11 | nymbia | ckknight: yeah, for sure |
| 10:59.20 | NightHawkTheSane | art3mis: I suggest a complete format and reinstall. :P |
| 10:59.28 | art3mis | hammer tag? |
| 10:59.29 | nymbia | i suggest hitting it with a stick |
| 10:59.30 | art3mis | ;) |
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| 10:59.48 | art3mis | hammer tag is the one game where it's good to be "it" |
| 11:00.58 | NightHawkTheSane | gah, i should go to sleep |
| 11:01.03 | art3mis | although i did notice(if we scroll back up to my comment about updating finally) things load a lot faster now... thats nice to see too |
| 11:01.33 | CIA-23 | 03alx * r35203 10WhoLib/ (Documentation.url WhoLib-1.0/WhoLib-1.0.lua WhoLib.toc): WhoLib: major changes (see docs) |
| 11:01.36 | a-stray-cat | nevermind, if i dont pass a function to SetCandyBarOnClick() it makes it click through again ;O |
| 11:01.53 | a-stray-cat | thats sexy. |
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| 11:02.31 | sylvanaar | haha NightHawkTheSane reformat - its funny that ppl do that |
| 11:02.40 | CIA-23 | 03bam * r35204 10/ (2 files in 2 dirs): |
| 11:02.40 | CIA-23 | ItemPrice-1.0: |
| 11:02.40 | CIA-23 | - Price updates |
| 11:03.11 | sylvanaar | get your addons.txt file, and grep it for addon:false |
| 11:03.43 | sylvanaar | use that as input for rmdir |
| 11:04.39 | art3mis | well that assumes two things |
| 11:04.53 | art3mis | 1. im in nix or have the win32 nix commands loaded |
| 11:05.00 | art3mis | 2. ill remember to actually do that |
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| 11:05.50 | sylvanaar | actually you can use FOR in a .bat file |
| 11:06.03 | art3mis | see point 2 ;P |
| 11:06.05 | sylvanaar | help FOR |
| 11:06.08 | sylvanaar | qq |
| 11:06.22 | art3mis | if i cant remember to do it 30 mins after when i log out of the game |
| 11:06.35 | art3mis | chances are im not gonna remember til next time i log in ;P |
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| 11:07.15 | Mikk | http://unxutils.sourceforge.net/ |
| 11:07.26 | art3mis | mikk: already have em ;P |
| 11:07.32 | Mikk | gdgd =) |
| 11:07.42 | art3mis | from log ago on my nt4.0 install |
| 11:07.45 | art3mis | long |
| 11:07.49 | Mikk | hehe same :> |
| 11:08.06 | art3mis | i hatewd switching between that and freebsd and seeing Command not Found. |
| 11:08.57 | Fisker- | yeah |
| 11:09.07 | Fisker- | "ls: command not found." |
| 11:09.07 | Fisker- | QQ |
| 11:09.31 | Fisker- | i wonder if i couldn't find dir and rename it to ls :P |
| 11:09.48 | Mikk | i usually end up aliasing "dir" in *nixes cause i keep fatnigering "la -al" into "la- sl" or "ls- al" or "lsa-l" or whatever |
| 11:09.58 | Mikk | err |
| 11:10.02 | Fisker- | :O |
| 11:10.03 | Mikk | "ls -al" even |
| 11:10.04 | Mikk | see what i mean? =P |
| 11:10.10 | Fisker- | fat-niggering?` |
| 11:10.10 | Fisker- | ;D |
| 11:10.12 | nymbia | haha |
| 11:10.13 | Mikk | fatfnigering |
| 11:10.16 | Fisker- | that's racist! |
| 11:10.17 | Mikk | SIGH |
| 11:10.23 | nymbia | rofl |
| 11:10.30 | Mikk | did i mention that i just bought a new keyboard? =P |
| 11:10.40 | Mikma | Mikk: *claps like a 7year old schoolhirl* |
| 11:10.41 | Fisker- | you should've bought one with bigger keys then |
| 11:10.44 | Mikma | girl :D |
| 11:11.09 | Mikk | it's the right size.. but the key action is like on a bloody laptop |
| 11:11.19 | Mikk | which i didn't find out until i got home ofc |
| 11:11.30 | Mikk | but it was the only one i could find that didn't have closer to 200 keys on it |
| 11:11.59 | Mikk | bloody multimedia keyboard #&%¤# crapola |
| 11:12.18 | Fisker- | btw has blizzard disabled access to the CoD part of items? |
| 11:12.41 | Fisker- | given no addons have the abillity to send items with cod or retrieve items with cod |
| 11:13.00 | Mikk | buh? sounds doubtful |
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| 11:14.37 | Mikk | i'd imagine it's mostly because mail related addons are about bulking things... and it's hard to bulk costs |
| 11:14.37 | Mikk | (and accidentally bulk receiving something with a CoD set on it could hurt) |
| 11:14.46 | Fisker- | of course |
| 11:14.59 | Fisker- | But it could still say "Opening this mail would cost <gold>" |
| 11:15.05 | Bibi`ouF | hey Fisker- |
| 11:15.14 | Bibi`ouF | saw the last reply on the hyjal post ? :D |
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| 11:15.29 | Fisker- | never! |
| 11:15.50 | Neebler | could anyone recommend a good fixed width damage font? that looks good being a damage text font |
| 11:16.09 | Fisker- | wtf |
| 11:16.13 | Fisker- | staff with 96 stamina :o |
| 11:16.54 | CIA-23 | 03ckknight * r35205 10DogTag-1.0/DogTag-1.0/DogTag-1.0.lua: |
| 11:16.54 | CIA-23 | DogTag-1.0 - remove [Rested] tag. - makes no sense, in all honesty. |
| 11:16.54 | CIA-23 | - add [Resting] tag - this seems like it has some vague purpose. |
| 11:17.18 | nymbia | haha |
| 11:17.29 | a-stray-cat | would [rested] be that you have some rested exp left? |
| 11:17.36 | ckknight | yes, a-stray-cat |
| 11:17.42 | ckknight | makes no sense on a unit frame. |
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| 11:18.04 | ckknight | basically, what happened is that [rested] was copied from Watchdog to agUF wrongly. |
| 11:18.08 | ckknight | I then copied agUF's wrong way |
| 11:18.15 | a-stray-cat | i see ;O |
| 11:18.31 | ckknight | from Watchdog's Readme.txt: * [rested] - Returns "Rested" if the unit is currently resting |
| 11:18.42 | ckknight | it's [rested], not [resting] |
| 11:18.42 | ckknight | for some reason. |
| 11:19.38 | ckknight | so DogTag uses [Resting], which makes some sense |
| 11:19.48 | ckknight | also, Watchdog has * [connect] - Returns "Offline" if the unit is disconnected |
| 11:19.53 | ckknight | DogTag has [Offline] |
| 11:20.30 | a-stray-cat | i see |
| 11:20.39 | a-stray-cat | disagree with silly names, do you? :p |
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| 11:20.52 | ckknight | yes, I want to get rid of silly/ambiguous names |
| 11:20.56 | ckknight | I think I'm gonna combine [Leader] and [LeaderLong] |
| 11:21.05 | ckknight | just make [Leader] return "Leader" or nil |
| 11:21.13 | ckknight | then have people use [Leader:Trunc(1)] |
| 11:21.36 | Mikk | that's not very user friendly :< |
| 11:21.37 | Fisker- | i'm just wondering |
| 11:21.43 | Fisker- | If you made a .toc load file1 and file2 |
| 11:21.49 | Fisker- | and file2 didn't exist when the game started |
| 11:21.53 | Gnarfoz | Mikk: since when has anyone in here thought about user friendlyness? :> |
| 11:21.55 | Fisker- | would it include it after a reload if you made it then? |
| 11:21.59 | Mikk | no |
| 11:22.02 | ckknight | no, Fisker- |
| 11:22.15 | ckknight | Mikk: what's not user friendly? |
| 11:22.23 | Mikk | "Leader:Trunc(1)" |
| 11:23.25 | Mikk | That's not configuration, that's coding |
| 11:23.25 | ckknight | fine |
| 11:23.25 | ckknight | you get LeaderShort. |
| 11:23.25 | Mikk | \o/ |
| 11:23.25 | ckknight | which is an alias for Leader:Trunc(1) |
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| 11:23.26 | ckknight | so suck it. |
| 11:23.26 | Mikk | Nice one |
| 11:23.26 | Mikk | (Better naming idd) |
| 11:24.35 | CIA-23 | 03ckknight * r35206 10DogTag-1.0/DogTag-1.0/DogTag-1.0.lua: |
| 11:24.35 | CIA-23 | DogTag-1.0 - renamed [Leader] => [LeaderShort] |
| 11:24.35 | CIA-23 | - renamed [LeaderLong] => [Leader] |
| 11:27.32 | Fisker- | LeaderLong was loooooong |
| 11:27.33 | Fisker- | ;( |
| 11:28.09 | CIA-23 | 03cncfanatics * r35207 10FlexBar2/Libs/: FlexBar2: Changed Externals |
| 11:29.12 | Sole | out boy |
| 11:29.21 | Sole | o_o |
| 11:29.45 | Sole | so my other comp is still being weird |
| 11:29.56 | Sole | Ive got both the modem card and NIC drivers all installed now |
| 11:30.02 | Sole | and it doesnt wanna connect to the net |
| 11:30.19 | Sole | I probly dont have the network settings configured right or somethin |
| 11:32.08 | Fisker- | you're on the net now |
| 11:32.11 | Fisker- | (yeah i had to) |
| 11:32.33 | Sole | diff comp :P |
| 11:33.19 | Morghus | FlexBar2, easier to use this time around? =) |
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| 11:36.06 | a-stray-cat | mm, pizza english muffin. |
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| 11:45.26 | Fisker- | oh hi Punkie` i just cleaned your harbl |
| 11:55.40 | CIA-23 | 03ckknight * r35208 10DogTag-1.0/DogTag-1.0/DogTag-1.0.lua: |
| 11:55.40 | CIA-23 | DogTag-1.0 - bugfix |
| 11:55.40 | CIA-23 | - optimizations |
| 11:55.40 | CIA-23 | - get rid of an unneeded table |
| 11:59.08 | CIA-23 | 03fenlis * r35209 10Aloft/Options/Modules/ShackleUndead.lua: |
| 11:59.08 | CIA-23 | Aloft : |
| 11:59.09 | CIA-23 | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:02.35 | CIA-23 | 03fenlis * r35210 10DrDamage/Locales/Localization-koKR.lua: |
| 12:02.35 | CIA-23 | DrDamage: |
| 12:02.35 | CIA-23 | - Updated localization koKR |
| 12:07.11 | Fisker- | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:07.20 | Fisker- | gonna try and install windows xp 64-bit :o |
| 12:08.11 | ckknight | ...why? |
| 12:08.32 | Bruners | to confirm that it sucks probably |
| 12:09.23 | ckknight | my school installed win xp 64 for some ungodly reason. |
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| 12:19.20 | CIA-23 | 03sylvanaar * r35211 10Prat/Prat.lua: Prat: Provide a guarded onupdate for use by modules at least until the offending ones can be fixed. |
| 12:21.18 | CIA-23 | 03sylvanaar * r35212 10Prat/Prat_Modules/modules/ChatTabs.lua: Prat: Removed ChatTabs use of OnUpdate. I am not sure I really ever looked at it that closely. |
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| 12:23.01 | sylvanaar | best part is it lists me as the author - but i didnt write it |
| 12:23.01 | sbu | morning |
| 12:23.15 | sylvanaar | morning |
| 12:23.23 | sylvanaar | xp 64 - o.O |
| 12:23.29 | sylvanaar | sounds painful |
| 12:24.11 | phyber | are there currently any addons in the Ace repo that play with /who and the Social Window in WoW? |
| 12:24.34 | phyber | last few days that window has been pissing me off, closing randomly, /whoing people randomly, opening randomly. |
| 12:24.39 | phyber | seems like some addon is fucking around while I'm using it. |
| 12:27.12 | phyber | hmm, looks like either SpamSentry or Automaton. probably spam sentry since it's the most recently added addon that does a SendWho() :/ |
| 12:27.15 | phyber | /golfclap |
| 12:27.17 | CIA-23 | 03ckknight * r35213 10DogTag-1.0/DogTag-1.0/DogTag-1.0.lua: (log message trimmed) |
| 12:27.17 | CIA-23 | DogTag-1.0 - make ShortClass and ShortRace modifiers, to be used on Race and Class tags. |
| 12:27.17 | CIA-23 | - encapsulate aliases that include ? or !. |
| 12:27.17 | CIA-23 | - make [PlayerClass] an alias for [IsPlayer?Class] |
| 12:27.17 | CIA-23 | - make [ShortClass] an alias for [Class:ShortClass] |
| 12:27.17 | CIA-23 | - make [ShortSmartClass] an alias for [SmartClass:ShortClass] |
| 12:27.21 | CIA-23 | - make [ShortPlayerClass] an alias for [PlayerClass:ShortClass] |
| 12:28.15 | sylvanaar | phyber thats a common problem with addons which automate /who |
| 12:29.23 | sylvanaar | phyber I know that CallToArms did that, and has a good who implementation in it. Also something called WhoLib might work. You might suggest it to whoever |
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| 12:32.35 | Kirkburn|afk | phyber, I haven't seen that problem |
| 12:32.57 | Mikk | i'm getting it plenty |
| 12:33.05 | Mikk | i keep my social pane open a lot, being an officer etc |
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| 12:33.09 | Kirkburn|afk | With SpamSentry? |
| 12:33.11 | Mikk | keeps closing randomly |
| 12:33.12 | Mikk | aye |
| 12:33.28 | Kirkburn|afk | weird |
| 12:33.39 | Kirkburn|afk | At the same time as spam gets blocked? |
| 12:34.06 | sylvanaar | yeah, CallToArms had that problem |
| 12:34.29 | Mikk | fook knows if it's at the same time. i only have hourly summaries enabled. |
| 12:34.41 | Chompers | i turned on a feature in prat recently, now i get the who problems |
| 12:34.48 | sylvanaar | prat doesnt do whos |
| 12:34.51 | sylvanaar | not now |
| 12:34.54 | sylvanaar | not ever |
| 12:34.59 | Chompers | fair enough |
| 12:35.17 | Mikk | and none of the plugins either? ;) |
| 12:35.30 | sylvanaar | none |
| 12:35.44 | sylvanaar | unless they are external and i dont know about them |
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| 12:36.32 | Kirkburn|afk | Hourly summaries? You don't report? |
| 12:36.49 | Mikk | i do |
| 12:36.50 | phyber | Mikk: have you had it randomly open? that's even better. |
| 12:36.57 | Sole | rofl |
| 12:36.58 | Mikk | no, that's never happened to me i don't think |
| 12:37.03 | phyber | Mikk: trying to move about, etc. and the who window input grabs focus. |
| 12:37.07 | phyber | SQUSIH FROM GRUUL |
| 12:37.13 | Mikk | ow |
| 12:37.25 | phyber | well, cave-in ;) |
| 12:37.44 | Mikk | well. i'm usually hte OT so gruul is kinda meant to hit me in the face =P |
| 12:37.52 | sylvanaar | here is the CallToArms implementation, perhaps somone would like to make it into a library: http://ace.pastey.net/27965 |
| 12:38.03 | Sole | I love how Naturfreund has been maintaining NECB for the last couple major releases, he even renamed the addon to his name, yet he still hasnt bothered to rename the folders/files from CECB prefix |
| 12:38.11 | Sole | gogo CarnivalEnemyCastBar |
| 12:39.04 | Sole | I havent looked at the NECB code since version 5.something, Im a bit scared to see what hes done now |
| 12:39.12 | sylvanaar | i'd say that could be made into a library pretty easily |
| 12:39.19 | Kirkburn|afk | Mikk, it doesn't help Blizz to put off reporting until well after the incident. They've posted telling people not to do it. Report early, or not at all. |
| 12:40.06 | Kirkburn|afk | Also, you smell. |
| 12:41.38 | sylvanaar | man, that thing i pastied is really ready to use as is...wow |
| 12:42.05 | Fisker- | I got weird behavior with the social menu as well |
| 12:42.06 | CIA-23 | 03ckknight * r35214 10DogTag-1.0/DogTag-1.0/DogTag-1.0.lua: DogTag-1.0 - add tags PvPRank and PvPRankNum. |
| 12:42.26 | Fisker- | Somethimes when i /who (even if it's a single person) my who-list comes up |
| 12:42.33 | Fisker- | and other times it randomly closes |
| 12:42.58 | sylvanaar | yes, turn that pastey into a library Fisker- |
| 12:43.07 | sylvanaar | then get everyone to use it |
| 12:43.44 | a-stray-cat | if i do for k,v in pairs(x) where x = { a = {} }, when k == a does v == the table (in that if i nil out v, it kills out x[a]? |
| 12:43.57 | CIA-23 | 03ckknight * r35215 10DogTag-1.0/DogTag-1.0/DogTag-1.0.lua: DogTag-1.0 - optimization to last commit |
| 12:44.37 | Sole | ^ is that meant to be lua? :p |
| 12:44.44 | sylvanaar | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:44.59 | sylvanaar | x[k] = nil |
| 12:45.21 | sylvanaar | v=nil means a=nil |
| 12:45.31 | sylvanaar | maybe |
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| 12:45.44 | a-stray-cat | thats what im asking |
| 12:45.57 | a-stray-cat | it appears that it doesn't nil it out though |
| 12:46.01 | sylvanaar | i dont know, just use x[k] = nil |
| 12:46.52 | a-stray-cat | that'll do ;O |
| 12:47.02 | Fisker- | what? :o |
| 12:47.16 | Fisker- | what should i make into a library? :( |
| 12:47.31 | sylvanaar | the who manager i pastied |
| 12:47.39 | sylvanaar | http://ace.pastey.net/27965 |
| 12:47.54 | sylvanaar | its ready to use like it is |
| 12:48.05 | Mikk | it's also probably copyrighted? |
| 12:48.19 | Mikk | unless there's a license in there saying otherwise |
| 12:48.20 | CIA-23 | 03moonsorrow * r35216 10XRS/XRS.lua: |
| 12:48.20 | CIA-23 | XRS: |
| 12:48.21 | CIA-23 | - fixed right click menu |
| 12:48.21 | CIA-23 | - texture selection now works again |
| 12:48.33 | sylvanaar | ya think? |
| 12:48.49 | Mikk | unless there's a license saying it's ok for you to use it, it's copyrighted |
| 12:49.01 | Mikk | ^ standard international copyright law |
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| 12:49.25 | Fisker- | We aren't in international waters |
| 12:49.26 | Fisker- | lol! |
| 12:49.39 | sylvanaar | actually, it doesnt matter |
| 12:49.46 | ckknight | welcome to the Berne Convention. |
| 12:49.48 | sylvanaar | because, its unenforceable |
| 12:49.54 | Mikk | eh? |
| 12:49.55 | sylvanaar | and |
| 12:50.19 | Mikk | seriously, don't go ripping large chunks of code unless you know it's ok (license said so, or you asked the author) |
| 12:50.20 | Fisker- | In theory isn't it also Blizzard's copyright? |
| 12:50.25 | Mikk | no |
| 12:50.27 | Mikk | absolutely not |
| 12:50.48 | Mikk | in the same way that it isn't microsoft's copyright just because i type something in notepad |
| 12:51.07 | Fisker- | Well if they said it was it technically was |
| 12:51.11 | sylvanaar | meh, the author is nowhere to be seen |
| 12:51.20 | Fisker- | And i believe there actually is a point in the EULA about addons |
| 12:51.36 | Mikk | I have never signed a waiver handing over my intellectual property to blizzard |
| 12:52.07 | Mikk | (seriously.. i know this shit..) |
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| 12:52.53 | Mikk | It's quite true that most of my addon related intellectual property isn't worth crap without running blizzard-copyrighted stuff underneath it ... but that's totally beside the point |
| 12:53.19 | Mikk | Windows is copyrighted too.. That doesn't mean people writing windows software hand their IP over to bill |
| 12:53.34 | a-stray-cat | i think, for a copyright to be enforced there has to be damages if its violated |
| 12:53.38 | sylvanaar | i mean the thing is commented for reuse |
| 12:53.40 | a-stray-cat | if someone steals some of your code, what happens? |
| 12:53.56 | sylvanaar | splaining how to use it |
| 12:53.56 | a-stray-cat | less people use your addon? you're emotionally traumatized? |
| 12:54.02 | ckknight | a-stray-cat: a DMCA notice is issued |
| 12:54.21 | Fisker- | if it's discovered that is |
| 12:54.34 | a-stray-cat | can you really use the DMCA like that? |
| 12:54.42 | ckknight | yes. |
| 12:54.43 | Mikk | a-stray-cat: Absolutely true. In normal copyright cases, a judge will toss out any case where damages cannot be demonstrated. But this is no longer true in the US where DMCA applies. |
| 12:54.53 | Mikk | Welcome to the police state |
| 12:55.31 | Fisker- | lol |
| 12:55.37 | sylvanaar | yeah, but, 1) no money = no lawyer |
| 12:55.37 | Mikk | Copy the neighbour's party song tape and you're fine. Copy the neibhour's party song mp3 and you're toast. |
| 12:55.57 | sylvanaar | 2) see 1 |
| 12:56.10 | Mikk | You don't need a lawyer for DMCA violations really. It's not civil litigation |
| 12:56.15 | Sole_ | wow...just wow - necb sets a global called 'rank' |
| 12:56.23 | Mikk | In the same way that you don't need a lawyer if you're killed. |
| 12:56.48 | Mikk | Anyway.. blah |
| 12:56.52 | sylvanaar | i hear ya |
| 12:57.00 | Mikk | I'm not arguing against it because I'm trying to protect you from getting sued |
| 12:57.02 | a-stray-cat | you need a lawyer if someone challenges your DMCA notice |
| 12:57.10 | a-stray-cat | imo |
| 12:57.20 | Mikk | I'm more worried about reputation smear |
| 12:57.28 | ckknight | you can always represent yourself, a-stray-cat |
| 12:57.45 | a-stray-cat | but i dont know how to represent myself ;) it may not be worth the effort for a WoW addon |
| 12:57.51 | a-stray-cat | if someone steals my code i'll be a little miffed |
| 12:57.56 | Mikk | Which will affect "Ace" as a whole |
| 12:57.59 | a-stray-cat | but i dont think its anything to lose sleep over |
| 12:58.17 | Mikk | Especially if you stick ripped code into a lib |
| 12:58.30 | Fisker- | That's why i'll probably always use the BSD license for my programs :P |
| 12:58.53 | ckknight | I recommend MIT over BSD |
| 12:58.58 | ckknight | less ambiguous |
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| 12:59.08 | lun- | Anyone know what to do if your addons simply wont load? worked fine last night before i turned off my comp :< |
| 12:59.14 | Fisker- | In other news Blizzard has technically been abusing the BitTorrent license |
| 12:59.18 | Fisker- | for a long while |
| 12:59.33 | yacoob | how? |
| 12:59.34 | ckknight | bittorrent license? |
| 12:59.35 | ckknight | what license? |
| 12:59.45 | ckknight | bittorrent has a specification. |
| 12:59.54 | ckknight | that spec doesn't have a license attached. |
| 13:00.00 | Fisker- | i meant the license bittorrent was licensed under :P |
| 13:00.01 | ckknight | they don't use the bittorrent code |
| 13:00.06 | ckknight | no, Fisker- |
| 13:00.07 | lun- | noone ? :< |
| 13:00.11 | Fisker- | they said they did though :o |
| 13:00.22 | ckknight | lun-: it's because you touched yourself last night. |
| 13:00.26 | Tornhoof | you can be assure they have the ip of bittorrent licensed |
| 13:00.26 | lun- | i bet |
| 13:00.30 | Tornhoof | assured |
| 13:00.51 | Fisker- | Of course they could've just meant they used the bittorrent specification |
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| 13:02.58 | Fisker- | http://www.blizzard.co.uk/wow/faq/bittorrent.shtml <-ah yes |
| 13:03.06 | Fisker- | doesn't say that they're using the same code |
| 13:03.14 | Fisker- | so they probably just based it on the specs |
| 13:03.32 | Mikk | Btw |
| 13:03.37 | Mikk | If you're going to do a who lib thingy |
| 13:03.42 | Mikk | I really do recommend integrating WhoLib |
| 13:03.43 | sylvanaar | http://www-en.curse-gaming.com/downloads/addons/library/wholib/ |
| 13:04.00 | Tornhoof | the original patcher used the default bittorrent implementation |
| 13:04.10 | Nargiddley | Fisker-, they do say its based on the bittorrent source |
| 13:04.12 | Ominus | ffs cant conenct to test realm |
| 13:04.31 | Tornhoof | you saw that since it had the same torrent file in ressource section thingie as the original wxwidgets windows example |
| 13:05.07 | Tornhoof | and it was the only program using that specific library |
| 13:05.18 | Mikk | "Blizzard Entertainment is currently testing a Blizzard Downloader that is based upon BitTorrent, an open source technology which is freely distributable pursuant to the MIT License" |
| 13:05.49 | Fisker- | And i'm pretty sure the MIT license requires you to give proper copyright in the program |
| 13:05.56 | Fisker- | Which it wasn't back then |
| 13:05.58 | Nargiddley | and then clicking that link gets you to a page with Copyright (C) 2001-2002 Bram Cohen on it |
| 13:06.59 | Fisker- | The MIT license requires copyright notice in the software itself i believe |
| 13:07.07 | Fisker- | which it also says |
| 13:07.10 | Fisker- | "The above copyright notice and this permission notice shall be included in all copies or substantial portions of the Software." |
| 13:07.21 | Mikk | That doesn't mean it needs to be in source |
| 13:07.27 | sylvanaar | anyhow the calltoarms guy is gone - and so is his website, i have been updating that mod because i like it..thats how i know that code was there |
| 13:07.40 | Mikk | oho |
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| 13:09.15 | sylvanaar | god i still have this quadcore and mobo sitting here, and i am procrastinating |
| 13:09.24 | a-stray-cat | ;O |
| 13:09.27 | Fisker- | getting quadcore? |
| 13:09.37 | sylvanaar | its sitting next to me |
| 13:09.46 | a-stray-cat | how can you procrastinate on something like that, i'd hardly have signed the shipping thing and be ripping into it ;o |
| 13:10.12 | sylvanaar | i want to know if i swap out my existing mobo/cpu will vista update itself or not |
| 13:10.30 | a-stray-cat | thats a pretty good reason to procrastinate, actually ;x |
| 13:10.46 | sylvanaar | on one hand i tend to think yes |
| 13:11.03 | sylvanaar | because it should be bootable without a driver change |
| 13:11.21 | Fisker- | Well in theory it shouldn't |
| 13:11.28 | Fisker- | as it would be using drivers that don't fit your chipset |
| 13:11.34 | Fisker- | (Unless it's same chipset and cpu-type) |
| 13:11.42 | sylvanaar | yes - its the same chipset |
| 13:11.48 | sylvanaar | 975 |
| 13:11.51 | Fisker- | i was however able to boot up fine in Windows XP when changing from Nforce4 to Intel P965 |
| 13:11.58 | Fisker- | Although the USB controller was bugged |
| 13:12.07 | Fisker- | so i had to plug in a PS/2 keyboard to access it |
| 13:12.38 | sylvanaar | im going from a 975XBX to a 975XBX2 |
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| 13:14.13 | sylvanaar | i think that there is only one multicpu kernel, which should be the same one my pentium D uses |
| 13:14.36 | Chompers | wish i knew what you were talking about |
| 13:14.41 | Chompers | it sounds really interesting |
| 13:14.45 | sylvanaar | same for the ACPI HAL |
| 13:15.34 | sylvanaar | meh |
| 13:15.34 | Fisker- | in any case i'd reinstall regardless :P |
| 13:15.50 | Ominus | is anyone else having trouble with the eu test realm |
| 13:15.58 | sylvanaar | bleh |
| 13:16.13 | sylvanaar | reinstalling programs will take ages |
| 13:16.13 | Chompers | i am Ominus |
| 13:16.18 | Nargiddley | i'd generally see how it works before reinstalling |
| 13:16.19 | Ominus | can u not connect? |
| 13:16.24 | Chompers | nope |
| 13:16.35 | Fisker- | neither can i |
| 13:16.37 | Nargiddley | seems like a minor change compared to most mobo replacements |
| 13:16.43 | Ominus | god dammit need to test mod |
| 13:16.46 | Fisker- | It's odd though sylvanaar |
| 13:16.59 | Fisker- | I can install a machine in VMware in about 10-15 minutes |
| 13:17.10 | Fisker- | But it takes like an hour when i do it on the real machine |
| 13:17.23 | sylvanaar | yeah because you dont have the same reboot times |
| 13:17.41 | Fisker- | my computer doesn't take an hour to reboot |
| 13:18.07 | Fisker- | The only thing i can think of is that datatransfer would be somewhat quicker, but that's pretty much only the initial setup where it copies files |
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| 13:18.53 | sylvanaar | idk, i think that in setup mode like safe mode alot of the caching and other performance feature are disabled |
| 13:19.02 | Mikk | You don't have to slot in 10000 new drivers in a vmware virtual box |
| 13:19.06 | Mikk | Which all require reboots |
| 13:19.38 | a-stray-cat | which has higher precedence, >= or not? |
| 13:19.45 | Fisker- | i've never rebooted in a Windows installation other than the last in "dos-like" setup and last in the windows like setup |
| 13:19.56 | sylvanaar | serious why would you have to intall an os more than once in vmware |
| 13:19.57 | ckknight | a-stray-cat: >= |
| 13:20.05 | sylvanaar | just dupe the machine no? |
| 13:20.06 | Fisker- | wait what? |
| 13:20.06 | Mikk | "not 1>=2" = "1<2" |
| 13:20.10 | a-stray-cat | how interesting |
| 13:20.16 | ckknight | no, Mikk |
| 13:20.32 | sylvanaar | can vmware patch the SID |
| 13:20.46 | ckknight | (not 1 >= 2) => ((not 1) >= 2) => (false >= 2) |
| 13:20.50 | Fisker- | what's SID? |
| 13:21.02 | Mikk | didn't we just say that >= had higher prec than not? |
| 13:21.07 | a-stray-cat | os then not has higher prec right? |
| 13:21.20 | ckknight | Mikk: ah, I misread what he put |
| 13:21.29 | sylvanaar | the thing that prevents you from just duplicating your drive |
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| 13:21.38 | sylvanaar | to get more windows installations |
| 13:21.41 | Pneu | amagad, background downloader has woken up |
| 13:22.45 | Mikk | ckknight: you're right tbh |
| 13:22.51 | Mikk | not has higher precedence than >= |
| 13:22.57 | sylvanaar | i remember there was an issue with Ghost, that you couldnt just ghost windows onto another pc because it would have the same security identifier |
| 13:23.08 | Mikk | (not 1>=2) -> "attempt to compare number with boolean" |
| 13:23.09 | sylvanaar | they fixed it somehow |
| 13:23.44 | Mikk | (stupid me tbh.. i know perfectly well that "!" has higher precendence than comparisons in C... but word operators look so innocent =P) |
| 13:24.06 | sylvanaar | i did that the other day mikk |
| 13:24.26 | sylvanaar | its the () that mess me up, i assume them while im reading |
| 13:25.24 | sylvanaar | not 1>=2 -> not(1 >= 2) |
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| 13:25.35 | a-stray-cat | time to sell t5 so i can respec again >< |
| 13:25.43 | Mikk | err |
| 13:25.48 | Mikk | oh on test |
| 13:25.52 | a-stray-cat | yes on test ;) |
| 13:25.59 | Saint-N | it's a floggin molly sorta day |
| 13:26.03 | Fisker- | nah |
| 13:26.07 | Fisker- | I got lots of T5 |
| 13:26.10 | Fisker- | i always sell it |
| 13:26.12 | Fisker- | on live that is |
| 13:26.17 | Mikk | was going "wtf? it's getting upgraded in a week? you st00pid or sth?" =P |
| 13:26.34 | a-stray-cat | ;p |
| 13:26.48 | a-stray-cat | strangely enough on live i have more than enough money to constantly respec |
| 13:26.51 | a-stray-cat | i should just recopy my char |
| 13:27.14 | a-stray-cat | i wish i had t5 on live though ;< |
| 13:27.15 | Fisker- | i got a portal for 2000g on PTR |
| 13:27.29 | CIA-23 | 03adirelle * r35217 10PitBull/Layouts/ (Buu.lua Industrial.lua Seerah.lua oUF.lua): |
| 13:27.29 | CIA-23 | PitBull |
| 13:27.29 | CIA-23 | - layouts : attempt to fix Seerah aura side settings. |
| 13:27.34 | Pneu | i sold someone crusader for 5000g on the beta :) |
| 13:27.35 | Fisker- | that was a not so cheap respec |
| 13:27.37 | a-stray-cat | im down to 2.04g on ptr :< |
| 13:29.11 | JoshBorke | morning |
| 13:29.41 | a-stray-cat | mornin |
| 13:30.21 | a-stray-cat | surely one of you has a script to loot all the items out of the box and dump the ones you can't vendor, right? :p |
| 13:30.58 | sylvanaar | ok, see ya maybe if this thing works |
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| 13:34.14 | Mikk | a-stray-cat: FuBar_GarbageFu |
| 13:34.24 | Mikk | except it doesn't automagically toss crap coming out of boxes |
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| 13:35.08 | Mikk | but tossing crap is just a one-click action |
| 13:35.57 | restored | any way to turn on Combat text again in agUF ? |
| 13:36.19 | restored | even with the option selected it wont display it. |
| 13:36.28 | vhaarr | restored: it's bugged at the moment |
| 13:36.35 | restored | ack :) Thanks. |
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| 13:43.47 | sbu | hm quartz focus/target casting bar stays forever? |
| 13:48.00 | Neebler | Did devla quit? |
| 13:50.02 | ckknight | a lot of people seem to have just disappeared |
| 13:51.36 | sbu | mh - Mikma is still here |
| 13:51.58 | Mikma | and? |
| 13:52.22 | JoshBorke | mikma quit and then came back (unfortunately) |
| 13:52.43 | JoshBorke | <3 |
| 13:52.47 | Mikma | yeah, i can do it again easily :O |
| 13:54.00 | JoshBorke | :-( |
| 13:54.37 | Morghus | Mikma - The Return XXVII |
| 13:55.04 | Mikma | what XXVII, it's just The Return |
| 13:55.16 | Mikma | i quit and came back after 1,5 months :P |
| 13:55.25 | Morghus | That's the first return |
| 13:55.39 | JoshBorke | it was only 1.5 months? use a decimal like a normal person :-P |
| 13:55.48 | Mikma | ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, |
| 13:55.55 | Morghus | Pffff.... 1 1/2 months! |
| 13:55.56 | Mikma | suffer boy, suffer! |
| 13:55.57 | JoshBorke | ~lart Mikma |
| 13:55.57 | purl | sends a legion of lawyers after Mikma's head |
| 13:56.45 | Tornhoof | why did you come back anyway mikma? |
| 13:56.59 | Morghus | Must be the spiced chicken. |
| 13:57.31 | Mikma | Tornhoof: i was surprised and got 1month playtime |
| 13:58.37 | Tornhoof | lemme guess some person gave it you, after you started to actually spend time with that person after quitting wow? |
| 13:59.00 | Mikma | why sure, it was my wife so.. |
| 13:59.08 | Tornhoof | see |
| 13:59.36 | Morghus | lol |
| 13:59.41 | Tornhoof | mebbe you should inquire on her lover :) |
| 14:00.09 | Mikma | don't have to, she bought 1month playtime for herself too |
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| 14:02.14 | Ominus | i wish there was a way to find out if any of the regsterd locales hadnt been used |
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| 14:07.28 | Ominus | what error do you get when a translation dosent exist? |
| 14:08.40 | Ominus | nvm |
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| 14:13.05 | CIA-23 | 03ominous * r35219 10ClassTimer/ (16 files in 5 dirs): ClassTimer: preformance improvements thanks to nymbia, thanks :), more to come |
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| 14:16.31 | Pneu | how does ClassTimer differ from Chronometer? |
| 14:17.20 | Ominus | uses new api |
| 14:17.31 | Ominus | needs alot of work still |
| 14:17.32 | Pneu | oic |
| 14:17.45 | Ominus | and i dont know if it actually works as test realms are down |
| 14:17.54 | Ominus | as the last patch was a major one |
| 14:18.03 | a-stray-cat | heh, im updating my timers too for the new API :X |
| 14:18.16 | a-stray-cat | the new api is sweet ;O |
| 14:18.25 | a-stray-cat | i get to hack out a lot of dirty code |
| 14:18.48 | Ominus | well im off to revise for exams for a while |
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| 14:54.51 | a-stray-cat | does parser lib catch things like "You cast Snake Trap."? |
| 14:57.59 | Gnarfoz | what ace2 addon replicates the functionality of ImproveDressingRoom/CloseUp? |
| 14:58.03 | Gnarfoz | I know there was one that did |
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| 15:20.38 | Ominous | does it use less memory asigning a blank variable to _ rather than to something with a name? |
| 15:20.44 | vhaarr | Ominous: no |
| 15:20.59 | vhaarr | Ominous: It just makes it easier to see which return values are actually used and not. |
| 15:21.22 | Ominous | also would it quicker to put a local _ at the top of the file as local vars are quicker to access than global vars arnt they? |
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| 15:22.04 | vhaarr | local _, x = GetWTF() |
| 15:22.10 | vhaarr | no need for any file-scoped _'s |
| 15:24.13 | Ominous | yea but if you do local a1, a2 a3 for i = 1, 20 do a1, _, a2, a3 = whatever() .... end then the _ is global |
| 15:24.14 | vhaarr | then do |local _| before that |
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| 15:25.15 | Ominous | vhaarr: what liscences are bigwigs under? |
| 15:25.29 | Ominous | actually nvm |
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| 15:25.53 | vhaarr | Ominous: by-nc-sa for my stuff, don't know about the rest |
| 15:27.30 | Ominous | can status bars have be set to do something on a click or would you have to make a button over the status bar |
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| 15:43.47 | Matrix110 | ah nice |
| 15:43.56 | Matrix110 | no need for spam sentry anymore with 2.1 as it looks like |
| 15:44.03 | a-stray-cat | oh? |
| 15:44.04 | Matrix110 | only to report bots but well didnt use that atall |
| 15:44.14 | Matrix110 | spam: |
| 15:44.15 | Matrix110 | * Players will now be able to report chat and mail spam with the click of a button. A "Report Spam" option will now be available by right-clicking on a player’s name in a chat channel, whisper, or mail. Using this option will quickly and easily report the player to our in-game support department for review. |
| 15:44.17 | Matrix110 | * When you report a player, he or she will automatically be added to your ignore list for your current session. You won't see any chat or mail from that player until you log out and back in. |
| 15:44.18 | Matrix110 | * These tools function on a per-account basis, meaning that reporting one character on an account will ignore all chat text and mail from that entire account until you log off. |
| 15:44.21 | Matrix110 | * You will not be able to report players on your friends list or in your guild. |
| 15:44.39 | Matrix110 | point 3 is the best one |
| 15:44.58 | Matrix110 | Players will no longer be able to send large amounts of text at one time, filling a chat screen with a repeating message, large blocks of gibberish, or text that could disrupt an entire conversation. This throttling, along with the new chat-reporting feature should make it much easier to keep unwanted text off your screen before it becomes overwhelming. |
| 15:45.05 | Adys | How many kills worldwide has there been of Vashj? Only two, or more? |
| 15:45.15 | vhaarr | two |
| 15:45.18 | Adys | okay |
| 15:45.22 | Matrix110 | 2 but well both not really legit |
| 15:45.28 | Matrix110 | Vashj is bugged to hell |
| 15:45.38 | Gnarfoz | that doesn't make the kills illegit |
| 15:45.48 | Matrix110 | well using exploits does for me:P |
| 15:45.55 | Gnarfoz | no one exploited? -.- |
| 15:46.01 | vhaarr | they're not exploiting anything |
| 15:46.06 | Gnarfoz | from what I heard, the bugs make her HARDER if anything |
| 15:46.08 | Matrix110 | 20SS on the raid with 4 warlocks in the raid? |
| 15:46.15 | Matrix110 | quite hard:P |
| 15:46.18 | vhaarr | that's not exploiting |
| 15:46.20 | Gnarfoz | Matrix110: park ppl outside the instance, ss everyone |
| 15:46.26 | Matrix110 | for me it is |
| 15:46.28 | Gnarfoz | it's like calling using Flasks exploiting |
| 15:46.59 | Matrix110 | its the same as using FR buff from LBRS for Rag and this was a exploit atleast Blizzard said it and removed it:P |
| 15:47.03 | CIA-23 | 03mikk * r35220 10ReadyCheckAnnouncer/: |
| 15:47.03 | CIA-23 | ReadyCheckAnnouncer: |
| 15:47.03 | CIA-23 | - Announces readycheck results back to raid |
| 15:47.03 | CIA-23 | - Displays small timer while check is running |
| 15:47.03 | CIA-23 | - Aliases "/rc" to "/readycheck" |
| 15:47.05 | Gnarfoz | Matrix110: erm |
| 15:47.08 | Gnarfoz | that buff is still there |
| 15:47.09 | KarlThePagan | lol who was that on kiljaeden who SS'd 40 people to down c'thun? |
| 15:47.17 | Matrix110 | you cant get it outside the instance Gnarfoz |
| 15:47.23 | Gnarfoz | and was even blue-posted as "use it, it's there for a reason" |
| 15:47.46 | Gnarfoz | that buff was there for that one reason, not by accident, and was never an exploit -.- |
| 15:47.52 | Matrix110 | no Gnarfoz its removed because the designers said its a exploit and not intented to have buffs from another instance inside your instance |
| 15:47.57 | Gnarfoz | ........... |
| 15:48.07 | Gnarfoz | shall I get you the blue post saying the opposite? |
| 15:48.12 | KarlThePagan | I'm going to go to UBRS right now and test this |
| 15:48.17 | Matrix110 | i dont care about it:p |
| 15:48.25 | Matrix110 | you cant carry MC buffs out of instances anymore |
| 15:48.37 | Matrix110 | because of this |
| 15:48.45 | Gnarfoz | so? that was a blanket change |
| 15:48.45 | Matrix110 | and they wouldnt ahve done that without a reason for it:P |
| 15:48.58 | Gnarfoz | yeah, like the buffs in the new TBC instances... |
| 15:49.00 | Matrix110 | no it was because there was big whining on forums about it |
| 15:49.02 | Gnarfoz | massive SR e.g. |
| 15:49.12 | Gnarfoz | ffs |
| 15:49.17 | Matrix110 | its like using 8 priests pre 16buff limit for MVing the tank on Veal |
| 15:49.17 | KarlThePagan | actually |
| 15:49.37 | CIA-23 | 03mikk * r35221 10ReadyCheckAnnouncer/ (. ReadyCheckAnnouncer.lua ReadyCheckAnnouncer.toc): ReadyCheckAnnouncer: Initial Commit |
| 15:49.44 | Gnarfoz | Matrix110: read, comprehend, shut up: http://blue.cardplace.com/cache/wow-general/8102727.htm |
| 15:49.57 | KarlThePagan | there's a massive +200 spell damage buff in carcatraz and I'm pretty sure my mages carried the buff outside the instance |
| 15:50.02 | CIA-23 | 03darchon * r35222 10Babble-2.2/Babble-Boss-2.2/Babble-Boss-2.2.lua: |
| 15:50.02 | CIA-23 | Babble-2.2: |
| 15:50.03 | CIA-23 | - update koKR |
| 15:50.17 | Matrix110 | Gnarfoz it doesnt matter Tigole etc. considered it a exploit and changed it:P |
| 15:50.18 | Gnarfoz | KarlThePagan: because of buffs like _that_ they changed that. not because of the measly FR buff in UBRS |
| 15:50.19 | KarlThePagan | but as I said... I'm going to ubrs right now because this sounds like crap |
| 15:50.38 | Gnarfoz | Matrix110: I proved my stuff, prove yours. |
| 15:50.47 | Matrix110 | read the patchnotes:P |
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| 15:51.05 | Gnarfoz | care to point out the line where it says 'ubrs fr buff = exploit'? |
| 15:51.17 | KarlThePagan | instance buffs even |
| 15:51.32 | Gnarfoz | Scarshield Spellbinder: The fire resist buff from this creature will no longer work on targets over level 63. |
| 15:51.36 | Gnarfoz | so what? lol |
| 15:51.39 | Matrix110 | erm |
| 15:51.40 | Matrix110 | no |
| 15:51.42 | Gnarfoz | it's just "dont use this old stuff in TBC" |
| 15:51.43 | Matrix110 | this was a bit later.. |
| 15:51.54 | Matrix110 | it was in 1.X before AQ got inside |
| 15:51.54 | Gnarfoz | which patch, then. |
| 15:51.59 | Matrix110 | gotta search |
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| 15:53.58 | Saroz | nice mod Mikk |
| 15:54.10 | Gnarfoz | i'm searching patch.txt right now, it's not in there. Tried "scarshield", "spellbinder", even "fire" - doesn't lead to anything regarding this ^^ |
| 15:54.14 | Saroz | getting it |
| 15:55.32 | KarlThePagan | Gnarfoz, in theory it would be under "Mind Control" |
| 15:55.42 | KarlThePagan | but we'll know in about 4 minutes when I screenshot it |
| 15:55.49 | Gnarfoz | Caydiem even said this, in regards to the question "who is 'we', when you say 'we consider this a creative use of game mechanics and not an exploit?": Well, when I say "the developers", I mean I spoke with Tigole. :P |
| 15:56.04 | Gnarfoz | KarlThePagan: your level? :) |
| 15:56.09 | KarlThePagan | 70 |
| 15:56.21 | Gnarfoz | ah nevermind, the change to only work on level 63 and below is in 2.1 |
| 15:56.54 | KarlThePagan | what's the note? |
| 15:57.20 | Gnarfoz | KarlThePagan: the UBRS fr buff will not work on players/creatures over level 63 anymore |
| 15:57.25 | Gnarfoz | (paraphrased) |
| 15:57.58 | KarlThePagan | but that's in 2.1.0 not 1.x |
| 15:58.02 | Gnarfoz | indeed |
| 15:58.06 | KarlThePagan | so will still work on live but not PTR |
| 15:58.09 | Gnarfoz | yup. |
| 15:58.42 | Gnarfoz | except, if there was a blanket change removing all buffs that were stolen or gained through Mind Control on instance change |
| 15:58.45 | KarlThePagan | souns like someone forgot about that buff when they made all the nice heroic badge items |
| 15:59.28 | Gnarfoz | (but still, if there was such a change, then it was not because of _this_ buff, and this buff is still (neither now, nor in retrospect) an exploit -.-) |
| 15:59.44 | KarlThePagan | wasn't before might be considered one now |
| 15:59.51 | KarlThePagan | because devs are braindead and don't know the game |
| 15:59.55 | Gnarfoz | heh |
| 16:00.12 | KarlThePagan | let's see if i can solo 3 blackrock legionares |
| 16:00.21 | Gnarfoz | just mind soothe them and run by? ;D |
| 16:00.38 | Gnarfoz | you're home free normally, anyway - stuff they don't like, they nerf eventually |
| 16:00.52 | Matrix110 | anyway having 20SSs on a raid with only 4 Warlocks isnt intended for me and prolly just a matter of time until it gets impossible |
| 16:00.52 | KarlThePagan | oh right |
| 16:01.27 | Gnarfoz | randomly purging SSs from people until # of soulstones == number of warlocks in the raid? |
| 16:02.14 | Matrix110 | no? |
| 16:02.24 | Mikk | Saroz: ~90 lines in all. I just got sick of asking again in raidchat when people are back. |
| 16:02.33 | KarlThePagan | yea +83 FR on me |
| 16:02.37 | KarlThePagan | still works for now |
| 16:02.40 | Matrix110 | go outside now |
| 16:03.03 | Saroz | Mikk, candybar and ace2 :p |
| 16:03.16 | Mikk | Actually, no libs whatsoever :S |
| 16:03.29 | KarlThePagan | Matrix110, screenshot incoming |
| 16:03.31 | Mikk | I R VIOLATING ACE2 SVN RULES ZOMG |
| 16:03.43 | Chompers | hax |
| 16:03.53 | Azurewrath | for great justin! |
| 16:04.08 | vhaarr | Mikk: there are other non-Ace addons on the svn :) |
| 16:04.09 | a-stray-cat | who's justin? |
| 16:04.27 | Azurewrath | don't know the Kungen Interview mp3? |
| 16:04.38 | Gnarfoz | paladin tanking > all |
| 16:04.56 | Mikk | vhaarr: Aye, and i'm responsible for one of those others aswell :> |
| 16:05.02 | Azurewrath | Gnarfoz: naa, the other one ;) |
| 16:05.23 | Azurewrath | Now watch this, seven Thunderfuries taped to my Forehead. Now see how i taunt the Boss! |
| 16:06.02 | Gnarfoz | Azurewrath: both are ftw ;D |
| 16:06.10 | Azurewrath | true :) |
| 16:06.43 | KarlThePagan | Gnarfoz, Matrix110 - http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v186/karlp/lbrsfrbuff.jpg |
| 16:06.45 | Azurewrath | http://duglum.orden-der-verdammnis.de/misc/weheartkungen.mp3 |
| 16:06.53 | KarlThePagan | photobucket resizes shit now? how dissapointing |
| 16:07.04 | Matrix110 | hmmk |
| 16:07.14 | Matrix110 | i was 100% sure they fixed htat |
| 16:07.52 | Pneu | doesnt it dissapear when you zone out now? |
| 16:08.16 | Matrix110 | Pneu i was pretty sure it did |
| 16:10.12 | KarlThePagan | I don't rembember any buffs dissappearing |
| 16:10.30 | Fisker- | it shouldn't |
| 16:10.33 | KarlThePagan | there's a pretty sweet 200 spell dmg buff off the healers in botanica |
| 16:10.44 | Fisker- | it was one of the Ragnaros/Vaelastrasz tactics |
| 16:10.45 | KarlThePagan | you can spell steal it for 2 minutes... or MC it for 30 minutes |
| 16:10.48 | Fisker- | as well as Chromaggus |
| 16:11.11 | KarlThePagan | we leave one healer alive so we can put it up when we leave bot |
| 16:13.27 | KarlThePagan | woot 3x transmute |
| 16:13.38 | KarlThePagan | too bad wasn't primal |
| 16:13.47 | KarlThePagan | err primal might |
| 16:15.08 | Gnarfoz | heh |
| 16:15.55 | Matrix110 | -.- |
| 16:16.02 | Matrix110 | i hate getting ganked with lvl 5 bank-.- |
| 16:16.17 | sedatedChipmunk | is there an ace2 CommandHistory? |
| 16:16.20 | Mikk | where the hell do you keep your banker to get it ganked? |
| 16:16.29 | Mikk | oh.. gzan |
| 16:16.31 | sedatedChipmunk | i've finally decided to get rid of Ace Classic (tm) |
| 16:17.09 | Matrix110 | IF AH mikk |
| 16:17.15 | Mikk | er |
| 16:17.18 | Matrix110 | some rogue:P |
| 16:17.19 | Mikk | stop flaggin pvp nub =P |
| 16:17.33 | a-stray-cat | ^ |
| 16:17.35 | Matrix110 | i didnt flag myself for pvp |
| 16:17.43 | Matrix110 | no clue what i was flagged |
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| 16:19.26 | sonsora | hey guys |
| 16:19.31 | sonsora | i need some help to AGUF |
| 16:19.48 | sonsora | or i should ebtter say, i've found a bug |
| 16:20.33 | Fisker- | omg i got rid of ace too |
| 16:20.56 | sonsora | the combattext disappeared from all frames (my frame, partyframes, petframes) |
| 16:20.59 | Matrix110 | Mikk what is your ReadycheckAnnouncer doing? Announcing who is afk in raidchat after you got the result? |
| 16:21.04 | vhaarr | sonsora: it's bugged at the moment |
| 16:21.18 | sonsora | ok, any ETA ? |
| 16:21.32 | Matrix110 | nvm i should read the info text |
| 16:23.24 | sonsora | vhaarr: any ETA on it ? |
| 16:23.53 | Mikk | Matrix110: Announces people that are AFK, announces people that are not ready. Displays a little timer bar while the check is running to avoid IT stress. Aliases "/rc" to "/readycheck". That's it. |
| 16:23.54 | vhaarr | sonsora: no, ask ag when he's online |
| 16:24.18 | Mikk | And where the hell did WoWI hide the "upload new interface" button now >.< |
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| 16:25.25 | sonsora | ok i will |
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| 16:26.27 | Matrix110 | Mikk its really nice that someone made it in a small addon and i can use other Unitframes now<3 |
| 16:27.02 | Chompers | error in Gladiator: |
| 16:27.04 | Chompers | attempt to index field 'tattle' (a nil value) |
| 16:27.16 | Chompers | File: playerdata.luaLine: 42 |
| 16:27.32 | Chompers | thought this was fixed ages ago, or im i doing something wrong |
| 16:27.48 | Matrix110 | i think its a Tattle error |
| 16:28.00 | Matrix110 | Gladiator worked and didnt got updated for sometime |
| 16:28.12 | sonsora | another bug i also found in "Simpleminimap" the Coords doesn't work |
| 16:28.33 | hyperChipmunk | Tain: *poke* |
| 16:28.39 | Chompers | another one when entering arena: |
| 16:28.48 | Chompers | attempt to index global 'Tattle' (a nil value)File: Interface\AddOns\Gladiator\LODLoader.luaLine: 17 |
| 16:30.20 | Matrix110 | Chompers do you use embedded Tattle or disembedded? |
| 16:30.54 | Chompers | embedded |
| 16:30.58 | Matrix110 | hmm |
| 16:31.06 | Matrix110 | when did you update the last time? |
| 16:31.25 | Matrix110 | gladiator that is |
| 16:31.27 | Chompers | this morning, i'm using r34497.6 |
| 16:33.08 | Matrix110 | when was morning at you? |
| 16:33.19 | Chompers | about 3 hours ago |
| 16:33.35 | Matrix110 | hmm |
| 16:33.40 | Matrix110 | then you should have the newest Tattle |
| 16:34.46 | Fisker- | ~ugt |
| 16:34.59 | purl | methinks ugt is Universial Greeting Time. Created in #mipslinux, it is a rule that states that whenever somebody enters an IRC channel it is always morning, and it is always late when the person leaves. The local time of any other people in the channel, including the greeter, is irrelevant. http://www.total-knowledge.com/~ilya/mips/ugt.html |
| 16:43.24 | a-stray-cat | is there any easy way to just open a dew drop menu at the cursor? |
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| 16:49.42 | vhaarr | a-stray-cat: Read the API docs for :Open |
| 16:54.30 | Kirkburn|afk | <sonsora> another bug i also found in "Simpleminimap" the Coords doesn't work <-- they do for me |
| 16:55.03 | Kirkburn|afk | I'm pretty sure it hasn't had a update that could break it, either |
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| 16:55.22 | Kirkburn|afk | Remember that co-ords don't work in instances |
| 16:55.32 | Kirkburn|afk | So apparently he left |
| 16:56.06 | Ominous | i dont know if anyone wld be intersted in this but it is an easy way to set up locales for an addon, in you main file just wrap everything to be localised in L[string] etc and then change AceLocale-2.2.lua like this http://ace.pastey.net/28191 and install prat copy text, start wow and then you get a list of all your locales in correct form to copy into your base locale table |
| 16:56.25 | Cryect | <Kirkburn|afk> Remember that co-ords don't work in instances |
| 16:56.29 | Cryect | Sure they do with some tricks :-p |
| 16:57.03 | Cryect | If I get inspiraton and some free time I might code a library for getting coords anywhere |
| 16:57.12 | vhaarr | Ominous: PitBull does something like that already. |
| 16:57.35 | Ominous | it does? how |
| 16:57.51 | vhaarr | and my local violation copy does |
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| 17:01.32 | Ominous | can you do SetScript("OnClick", ...) on a status bar? |
| 17:02.14 | Cryect | yeah |
| 17:02.37 | Ominous | excellent |
| 17:03.11 | CIA-23 | 03phyber * r35223 10XPBarNone/ (Core.lua XPBarNoneLocale-enUS.lua): |
| 17:03.11 | CIA-23 | XPBarNone: |
| 17:03.11 | CIA-23 | - Change 'Clamp' in the option menu to 'Screen Clamp' |
| 17:03.12 | Ominous | hmm currently i have a 50 line file and a 500 line file, its probabilly best just to merge them isnt it |
| 17:03.45 | sylvanaar | That was a boring upgrade... |
| 17:03.56 | sylvanaar | nothing broke |
| 17:03.59 | Ominous | rofl |
| 17:04.07 | phyber | sylvanaar: demand a refund, imo. |
| 17:05.02 | sylvanaar | only thing that went wrong was i forgot to double check the header seating against the lan port |
| 17:05.06 | Cryect | Ominous: Actually I'm wrong >_> you need to use OnMouseDown/OnMouseUp |
| 17:05.26 | vhaarr | Ominous: CandyBars wrap them in a Button for OnClick. |
| 17:05.34 | Cryect | Ominous: Forgot what I used to use for my old unit bars :-p |
| 17:05.39 | sylvanaar | you must have done that before, i do it about 1 time in 3 |
| 17:05.47 | phyber | is there a way to hide an option from Waterfall, perhaps by using the disabled = toggle in AceOptions? |
| 17:06.00 | sylvanaar | just waterfall? |
| 17:06.04 | CIA-23 | 03jncl * r35224 10Skinner/ (5 files in 2 dirs): |
| 17:06.04 | CIA-23 | Skinner: Skinned Guild Alliance |
| 17:06.04 | CIA-23 | - Added KLHThreatMeter skin from arkan |
| 17:06.11 | phyber | I have a '/xpbn config' option which opens waterfall. but it's pointless showing that button in Waterfall. |
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| 17:06.27 | sylvanaar | use guihidden? |
| 17:06.35 | phyber | ah :) |
| 17:06.50 | sylvanaar | if waterfall supports it |
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| 17:10.33 | Funkeh` | hey |
| 17:10.44 | phyber | *sigh* |
| 17:10.50 | phyber | got an example of an addon that uses that guiHidden? |
| 17:10.58 | phyber | poor documentation, ftl. |
| 17:11.35 | phyber | hmm. |
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| 17:12.37 | phyber | wait, the 'execute' thing can't take a hidden/guiHidden. :| |
| 17:12.57 | sylvanaar | no use grep or search |
| 17:13.20 | sylvanaar | on your addons folder |
| 17:13.25 | Megalon | Antagonist-Options.lua |
| 17:13.30 | phyber | I did, I was just using it in the wrong way ;) |
| 17:13.35 | phyber | also, "execute" doesn't support it. |
| 17:13.37 | sylvanaar | o |
| 17:13.51 | Megalon | the only addon in my folder that uses it :x |
| 17:13.52 | phyber | I guess I need 'disabled' instead. |
| 17:14.08 | sylvanaar | no, you need hidden |
| 17:14.21 | sylvanaar | or you need to make 2 options tables |
| 17:14.30 | phyber | but execute doesn't support hidden, so disabling it is the next best thing. |
| 17:14.52 | phyber | but even that is difficult, since Waterfall doesn't have a IsOpen("Some_Config"). |
| 17:15.12 | vhaarr | phyber: Add that to Waterfall. |
| 17:15.17 | sylvanaar | yeah i supose. For prat I build separate options tables for console, fubar and waterfall |
| 17:15.58 | phyber | vhaarr: I could try. the worst thing that could happen is I make a horrible mess that breaks my UI for a second ;) |
| 17:16.16 | vhaarr | phyber: goody |
| 17:16.43 | hyperChipmunk | sylvanaar: prat have an analog to CommandHistory? i don't see it, but i could just be looking in the wrong place |
| 17:18.00 | Fin | it takes me an awful long time to figure anything out though |
| 17:18.05 | Fin | fick, unfortunately |
| 17:18.26 | Ominous | are the test realms down till patch day now or not? |
| 17:18.29 | Fin | it's my parent's fault |
| 17:18.54 | Fin | bad genes |
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| 17:35.03 | sylvanaar | eh? |
| 17:35.28 | sylvanaar | command history? |
| 17:35.58 | sylvanaar | besides up arrow? |
| 17:36.04 | Industrial | sylvanaar: :D? |
| 17:36.30 | Chompers | hrm, is there any sort of documentation for Gladiator |
| 17:36.40 | Fin | sylvanaar: command history that's saved between sessions |
| 17:37.08 | sylvanaar | oh, no, because if we did that, then we'd have to do the chat text |
| 17:37.30 | sylvanaar | or rather, it'd lead to that |
| 17:37.31 | Fin | ? |
| 17:38.32 | sylvanaar | plus, though im not positive, you would taint those commands in the history |
| 17:39.35 | sylvanaar | so we could only restore non-secure commands at best |
| 17:40.25 | sylvanaar | sounds like a good idea for another addon ChatCache |
| 17:40.32 | Fin | it's not possible to just record lines? |
| 17:41.05 | sylvanaar | it is, but some other addon can do that. i dont think Prat needs the SV overhead |
| 17:41.07 | Fin | then at the start of another session you could just AddHistoryLine() for the saved bits? |
| 17:41.34 | Fin | doesn't have to be that much - 10 lines or 50 would be nice enough :) |
| 17:41.37 | sylvanaar | because if you restore that, why not restore some of the chat tho |
| 17:41.58 | Fin | it wouldn't be that useful? |
| 17:42.25 | Fin | it's be just bits of General Chat from last night's raid or something most of the time :) |
| 17:42.26 | sylvanaar | to have your chat preserved when you reload ui? |
| 17:42.39 | Fin | there's HeyFu and WhisperFu for whispers |
| 17:43.10 | Hjalte | Man. This is sad. WUU, the program i use to update all my addons, have been blocked by ui.worldofwar... |
| 17:43.29 | vhaarr | They have their own update manager, right? |
| 17:43.35 | Fin | actually I guess that might be handy... |
| 17:43.45 | sylvanaar | well, i hate messing with the interactive chat because of tain risk. but its worth a look i guess |
| 17:43.53 | Hjalte | vhaar, yeah they do, but I think it's lame that they can't support third party updaters. |
| 17:43.56 | ZealotOnAStick | Is there actually anything that you can only get from ui.worldofwar anymore that's worth a fuck? |
| 17:44.07 | sylvanaar | sspvp |
| 17:44.08 | Matrix110 | Trojans |
| 17:44.11 | Matrix110 | :P |
| 17:44.14 | Fin | would future history lines be tainted as well after adding the saved buffer? |
| 17:44.15 | fireglow | haha |
| 17:44.16 | sylvanaar | and trojans |
| 17:44.25 | Fin | ui.w completely shafted my account |
| 17:44.30 | sylvanaar | mine too |
| 17:45.08 | sylvanaar | lost Sylvaan and my mage |
| 17:45.24 | Fin | I emailed them asking to change the ownership of an addon to a newer account, and the person who replied said that they couldn't do that, but they've deleted the old account which should sort it out |
| 17:45.41 | Fin | but they didn't delete the account properly, it's still a registered username and I'm logged in |
| 17:45.57 | Fin | I just can't comment, add favourites, or edit the addon |
| 17:46.24 | sylvanaar | they sorta did that with mine, but if you click on my name it links to my old account |
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| 17:47.01 | ZealotOnAStick | Wonderful decision on their part. Alienate some more users. This is sure to make them even MORE popular! |
| 17:47.58 | sylvanaar | thier updater works pretty well - not much to update really though |
| 17:48.00 | Ominous | will the new toc be 21100? |
| 17:48.07 | sylvanaar | 20100? |
| 17:48.20 | Ominous | thats what i meant :p |
| 17:49.34 | Funkeh` | 21000 afaik? |
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| 17:49.47 | sylvanaar | have you guys checked out the change to acelibrary? with all addons disabled (using standalones), enable ace2, and say Prat, and it'll load first time |
| 17:49.55 | sylvanaar | 20100 |
| 17:51.05 | Saroz | very nice mikk |
| 17:51.43 | Ominous | nice sylvanaar |
| 17:51.58 | Ominous | sylvanaar: is that now or on patch day |
| 17:52.02 | sylvanaar | now |
| 17:52.05 | Ominous | nice |
| 17:52.34 | Ominous | are eu test realms up atm or not |
| 17:53.35 | Saroz | they are |
| 17:53.51 | dudevon | can someone help me with some php (first day trying to code something :P) |
| 17:54.18 | sylvanaar | imho yall should actually try it, because it hasnt been heavily tested with combinations of embedded and standalone libs |
| 17:54.30 | renchap | dudevon: yup |
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| 17:56.24 | dudevon | trying to mine wowhead xml feed atm, and i need to strip all the text from say for example: http://www.wowhead.com/?item=22440&xml where it begins with "<htmlTooltip><![CDATA[" but not including it |
| 17:57.00 | dudevon | and ending at "]]></htmlTooltip>" |
| 17:57.02 | renchap | http://php.net/simplexml |
| 17:57.18 | Fin | http://php.net/strip_tags |
| 17:57.27 | dudevon | woot |
| 17:57.56 | dudevon | i tried strip tags, it includes the text, i'll try simplexml. think it's what i need |
| 17:58.15 | dudevon | you dont happen to be Fin from my guild :P |
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| 17:58.18 | dudevon | ??! |
| 17:58.35 | QuantumDelta | heh |
| 17:58.40 | Fin | I might be |
| 17:59.33 | dudevon | idlers :P |
| 18:04.51 | CIA-23 | 03ominous * r35225 10ClassTimer/ (14 files in 3 dirs): ClassTimer: some more optimisation |
| 18:05.17 | Ominous | thank god that part of optimising is over that was hell |
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| 18:06.29 | Ominous | for the love of god i still cant connect to the test realm |
| 18:06.34 | Ominous | please can someone test ClassTimer if they can |
| 18:06.46 | Ominous | i know the bars work and no syntax errors |
| 18:06.57 | Ominous | just dont know if the auras updating bit works |
| 18:08.35 | Saroz | wtf is it |
| 18:09.11 | Ominous | ClassTimer :P, creates timers for buffs/debuffs |
| 18:10.10 | kergoth | Ominous: i dunno if you've seen it, but in testing it in the past i've seen instances of it showing things like 3 find weakness bars |
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| 18:10.16 | kergoth | not sure as to the exact reproduction steps though |
| 18:10.26 | Ominous | kergoth: it is complety rewritten |
| 18:10.31 | Ominous | since yesterday |
| 18:10.31 | kergoth | ah, cool |
| 18:10.45 | Ominous | it should be alot more efficient |
| 18:11.12 | Ominous | tho it is missing a few options like custom text atm |
| 18:11.34 | Saroz | does it work for judgements? |
| 18:11.41 | Saroz | refresh on melee |
| 18:11.42 | Saroz | etc |
| 18:11.58 | Ominous | and i could do with feedback with which settings should be per unit and which should change all groups |
| 18:12.07 | Ominous | saroz: if it creates a buff/debuff then yes |
| 18:13.19 | sylvanaar | i want to make a vista gadget, that looks fun |
| 18:13.28 | Ominous | kergoth: try this one |
| 18:13.56 | CIA-23 | 03ominous * r35226 10ClassTimer/ (Core.lua RuleSet.lua): ClassTimer: bugs |
| 18:14.59 | CIA-23 | 03ominous * r35227 10ClassTimer/RuleSet.lua: ClassTimer: syntax |
| 18:16.57 | Ominous | saroz: what class and whats the names of the buffs/debuffs |
| 18:17.07 | Saroz | Judgement of X |
| 18:17.10 | Saroz | refreshes on melee |
| 18:17.11 | Saroz | hits |
| 18:17.17 | Saroz | see chronometer |
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| 18:17.59 | Ominous | is it a buff on you or a debuff on enemy? |
| 18:18.06 | Saroz | debuff on enemy |
| 18:18.13 | Saroz | when I hit enemy, the timer refreshes |
| 18:18.21 | Ominous | then it will work when i add them into to list |
| 18:19.00 | Ominous | what can X be? |
| 18:19.38 | CIA-23 | 03saroz * r35228 10sRaidFrames/ (localization.enUS.lua sRaidFrames.lua sRaidFramesOptions.lua): sRaidFrames: Added Debuff filter - needs a bit of work on the highlighting part |
| 18:20.02 | Fisker- | grrr |
| 18:20.26 | Fisker- | why haven't blizzard made an option to enable the ! above quests when too low level? :( |
| 18:20.33 | Fisker- | And why haven't they made it visible on the minimap |
| 18:20.36 | Fisker- | it's whack i tell ya |
| 18:21.26 | kergoth | Cartographer_Quests ftw |
| 18:21.54 | Ominous | Saroz: nvm found them in chrono providing thats all of them |
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| 18:22.35 | abyssichate | Ominous: does ClassTimer use the new features of 2.1 APIs which allow to identify dots with the same names on targets with the same name/levle? |
| 18:22.37 | abyssichate | *level |
| 18:22.55 | Saroz | huh? never heard of that feature |
| 18:24.37 | abyssichate | I've read around that it'll be possible to keep tracks of - for example - dots with the same name on the same targets. Chronometer now will make your corruption (for instance, again) disappear whenever the first corruption (even if it is not yours) on the target expiries |
| 18:24.40 | Ominous | it will work with your buffs 100% without interference from other peoples |
| 18:24.40 | abyssichate | *expires |
| 18:24.47 | abyssichate | nice |
| 18:25.09 | Ominous | tho to have a sheeped / banished mob shown if you arnt targeting it you must /focus it |
| 18:25.32 | abyssichate | I see |
| 18:25.42 | CIA-23 | 03ominous * r35229 10ClassTimer/ (6 files in 3 dirs): ClassTimer: Add judgements and converted quotes to ' |
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| 18:26.09 | abyssichate | and for example, if I dot two targets (with the same name and level) with corruption, Chronometer will usually remove all the corruption bars when teh first one (that I am targetting) dies |
| 18:26.12 | abyssichate | is it going to be prevented? |
| 18:26.21 | kergoth | Ominous: do you have any timers for things that don't involve buffs/debuffs? i.e. distract, its nice to see a timer from when i used it, so i know when it'll wear off.. i dont think theres a debuff on the distracted mobs |
| 18:27.04 | kergoth | course that could be easily done in another addon, cutup perhaps, if need be |
| 18:27.16 | fleetfoot | it depends abyss, there is no way to distuingish between mobs of same names unless you have its as a target/focus |
| 18:27.17 | sbu | WTB working PTR :p |
| 18:27.40 | Ominous | kergoth: i hadent thought of that, i cld do that yes |
| 18:28.00 | Silviu- | Ominous timers are separated by an bar or something when multiple targets are involved ? and maybe u have a screenshot ? ;p |
| 18:28.17 | Ominous | Siviu: multiple targets cant happen unless you focus |
| 18:28.21 | Ominous | and then it is a seperate grp |
| 18:28.22 | abyssichate | fleetfoot: in 2.1 or live? |
| 18:28.31 | Ominous | bith |
| 18:28.34 | Ominous | both* |
| 18:28.36 | fleetfoot | in both |
| 18:28.40 | abyssichate | oh I understand what you mean now |
| 18:29.07 | Silviu- | Omnius so u mean that if i target mob 1, dot him, target a second mob and dot, first bars will disapear ? |
| 18:29.12 | Ominous | yeas |
| 18:29.17 | Silviu- | Damn :( |
| 18:29.18 | Silviu- | Bad ! |
| 18:29.33 | Ominous | sorry, |
| 18:29.39 | Silviu- | As an affli wl, i dot a lot :( |
| 18:29.40 | abyssichate | I cast corruption on target #1, bar #1 is instanced, I switch to target #2 and cast corruption, bar #2 is created and overrides the bar #1, I target #1 back and once I kill him, the corrupton bar related to target #2 is removed |
| 18:29.54 | Ominous | focus FTW till blizz get off their sorry asses and give mobs some id or something |
| 18:30.06 | Ominous | and make them all units without targeting them |
| 18:30.29 | kergoth | would it work if someone in the party/raid had mob 1 targeted, but you didn't? |
| 18:30.43 | abyssichate | I remember that DoTimers is able to somehow keep track of dots on multiple targets or am I wrong? |
| 18:31.10 | fleetfoot | dottimer has some additional magic that tries to be smart about it, but in essence the current api doesnt allow for it |
| 18:31.16 | Ominous | kergoth: urm is party1target a unit |
| 18:31.23 | Silviu- | abyssichate yes i remember that too, is a nice feature it have but is too bloated with all classes i don`t need :( |
| 18:31.37 | abyssichate | yeah, I wouldn't ever use it over something else |
| 18:31.46 | vhaarr | Ominous: yes |
| 18:31.52 | Silviu- | I think i`ll just wait for 3.0 to become stable, and hack it and remove other classes and let only warlock |
| 18:31.55 | Ominous | then it would work |
| 18:31.57 | abyssichate | could it be possible to keep tracks of dots on multiple targets if they are tagged with raid icons? |
| 18:32.10 | Ominous | i wld just need to code a way for it not to get very messy |
| 18:32.24 | Ominous | as in if all targetting 1 mob you wld get 5 groups for the same mob |
| 18:32.37 | fleetfoot | well, the problem is how to react to dots that fades, atm the information you get is very limited |
| 18:32.46 | abyssichate | yeah |
| 18:32.58 | abyssichate | to avoid that, I unticked the option "remove bar when dot expires" in chronometer |
| 18:32.59 | Ominous | in 2,1 the info is quite nice |
| 18:33.08 | abyssichate | otherwise my bars would get removed even if my dots were still up |
| 18:33.32 | Ominous | 2 assination rogues in a party was hell |
| 18:33.32 | fleetfoot | have they added additional information on fades in 2.1? |
| 18:33.55 | abyssichate | it has got its downsidee such as nightfall/shadowbolt crit buff persist even after I used them |
| 18:33.57 | Ominous | well if you use a script which runs on UNIT_AURA() |
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| 18:34.19 | fleetfoot | yeah, true, but, that only works for focus/target ect |
| 18:34.38 | Ominous | well it can work for party1target etc |
| 18:34.46 | abyssichate | am I wrong or isn't a blizzard introducing a dot tracker in 2.1? |
| 18:34.47 | kergoth | Ominous: yes, god its nice seeing the exact # of my deadly poison charges :) |
| 18:35.12 | Ominous | kergoth: i intend to add count to the timers |
| 18:35.42 | Ominous | kergoth: are you testing it on ptr atm? |
| 18:36.05 | fleetfoot | true om, but that doesnt really solve the problem of getting keeping track of dots on multiple targets |
| 18:36.14 | Ominous | it kinda does |
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| 18:36.23 | Ominous | as if anyone in party/raid targets mob the can be a group for it |
| 18:36.49 | abyssichate | like warriors offtanking various stuff, you could have a group for each of them? |
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| 18:36.57 | abyssichate | of their targets I mean |
| 18:38.43 | Ominous | yea |
| 18:38.43 | fleetfoot | well the problem there is that they need to be targeted by someone |
| 18:38.43 | abyssichate | they will be usually targetted/focused by someone thouhg |
| 18:38.43 | Ominous | but that wont hapen for abit as i need to code some code for prioroties etc or you will end up with up to 42 bars |
| 18:38.43 | abyssichate | and if you are in solo and dots two mobs up, you'll need to target them first, so you'll get multiple bars there as well |
| 18:38.43 | Ominous | does UNIT_AURA get called on party1target etc |
| 18:38.43 | fleetfoot | but as omni said, the debuf api is a step in the right direction, but the problem wont be fully solved until we can distungish between mobs in some sane way |
| 18:39.00 | abyssichate | Oh, one thing, I can't find any addon (not even in Antagonist) that can warn me whenever my target gains nether protection - does anyone have suggestions? |
| 18:39.35 | Ominous | what is it |
| 18:39.39 | Ominous | a debuff you apply? |
| 18:39.58 | [dRaCo] | nope, it's a warlock buff thingy |
| 18:40.00 | abyssichate | no, a buff warlocks can gain whenever they are hit with fire/shadow and lasts 4s |
| 18:40.22 | Ominous | no mine cant track that as the new api only returns info for your buffs/debuffs |
| 18:41.13 | Fisker- | lol |
| 18:41.16 | abyssichate | yeah, I know, I was just wondering if there is any addon I've missed that can track enemy buffs including Nether Protection; the only one I know that does such job is Antagonist but strangely can't track Nether Protection |
| 18:41.18 | Fisker- | you can't report people in your guild |
| 18:41.23 | Fisker- | with the new tool |
| 18:41.29 | abyssichate | /gquit then report and then join again |
| 18:41.32 | Ominous | stop complaining |
| 18:42.03 | Silviu- | abyssichate WitchHunt does it for me |
| 18:42.17 | Silviu- | But not as a bar, only notification |
| 18:42.17 | abyssichate | it doesn't create a timer though, right? |
| 18:42.20 | abyssichate | Oki |
| 18:42.22 | Silviu- | Nop |
| 18:42.45 | Ominous | kergoth: |
| 18:42.45 | abyssichate | anyway, I need the 2.1 so badly, I hope they hurry the fuck up |
| 18:42.56 | Ominous | kergoth: what is the combat log message for distract? |
| 18:42.56 | Silviu- | Next week i guess |
| 18:43.19 | abyssichate | Next Wednesday you mean (EU) ? |
| 18:43.54 | Fisker- | pastamancer |
| 18:44.08 | Fisker- | any chance we'll get a feature to fill up grid with a test-setup? |
| 18:44.26 | Ominous | kergoth: im having second thoughts on disctract |
| 18:44.39 | Ominous | it would actually need an entire group for itsself |
| 18:46.46 | Chompers | the 3v3 team thats highest on my server has a prot warrior in it :/ |
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| 18:48.05 | Silviu- | Chompers maybe he reskill 2 times / week like ours |
| 18:48.14 | Chompers | perhaps |
| 18:48.23 | Chompers | but i've never seen him out of his prot gear |
| 18:48.24 | Chompers | ever |
| 18:48.52 | kergoth | Ominous: np, as i said, i'm sure itd be easy enough to do in a seperate addon, i don't really know how many such timers would be needed |
| 18:51.06 | kergoth | [2007/05/12 11:26:35-914-x1]: ClassTimer\RuleSet.lua:438: AceLocale(ClassTimer): Translation "player" does not exist. |
| 18:51.07 | kergoth | [2007/05/12 11:27:04-914-x1]: ClassTimer-1.0 r35226\RuleSet.lua:171: bad argument #1 to 'pairs' (table expected, got string) |
| 18:51.10 | kergoth | after login |
| 18:51.46 | Chompers | http://armory.wow-europe.com/#arena-ladder.xml?b=Reckoning&ts=3&p=1&sf=rank&sd=a&ff=realm&fv=Kul%252520Tiras |
| 18:54.11 | Fisker- | http://blue.cardplace.com/newcache/us/102905050.htm <- :o |
| 18:54.18 | Fisker- | It's worth reiterating that these are only some of the planned spam-prevention features for the upcoming patch that we're willing to discuss at this time. |
| 18:54.26 | dudevon | renchap, thanks for the tip. had to upgrade to php5 but in the end it worked |
| 18:54.46 | Bibi`ouF | Fisker-, are you voting for France tonight ? |
| 18:54.50 | Cryect | they've got changes coming to trial accounts also |
| 18:54.52 | Bibi`ouF | Or do I have to ban you from my site ? |
| 18:54.55 | Fisker- | in what? |
| 18:55.03 | Bibi`ouF | Eurovision ! |
| 18:55.06 | Fisker- | lol |
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| 18:55.11 | Fisker- | i'm not voting for shit |
| 18:56.08 | sonsora | hey guys. i have found 2 bugs, one in AGUF and one is simpleminimap, the one in AGUF is that combartext has disappeared, adn the one in simpleminimap is that coord doesn't work, can somebody help me ? |
| 18:56.24 | Saroz | noticed the aguf bug aswell |
| 18:56.25 | Fisker- | coords work fine for me in simpleminimap |
| 18:56.26 | Saroz | annoying |
| 18:56.34 | Fisker- | but it's really up to the authors to fix it |
| 18:56.34 | kergoth | coords work fine here as well |
| 18:56.35 | sonsora | fisker got newset v. ? |
| 18:56.39 | sonsora | hmm |
| 18:56.42 | kergoth | latest svn |
| 18:56.50 | sonsora | when i activate the co ords it gives me an error |
| 18:57.01 | Fisker- | as far as i know yes |
| 18:57.05 | sonsora | should i write the error here ? |
| 18:57.15 | [dRaCo] | if it's one line, yes |
| 18:57.20 | CIA-23 | 03ominous * r35230 10ClassTimer/ (ClassTimer.toc Locales/enUS.lua RuleSet.lua): ClassTimer: translation |
| 18:57.21 | [dRaCo] | otherwise use the pastey |
| 18:57.22 | sonsora | yeah i think it is |
| 18:57.24 | Ominous | ok kergoth |
| 18:57.25 | Fisker- | if not go to pastey.net |
| 18:57.35 | sonsora | give me a sec. i write it |
| 18:57.37 | Ominous | pls try again |
| 18:58.12 | Chompers | saroz, are you in any arena teams? |
| 18:59.01 | sonsora | Interface\addons\simpleminimap\modules\coords.lua:372: attempt to index field 'frame' (a nil value) |
| 18:59.08 | sonsora | that's the error |
| 18:59.30 | Ominous | will str:gsub("%%s", spell) edid spell or do i need to assign it to another variable |
| 18:59.34 | CIA-23 | 03saroz * r35231 10sRaidFrames/sRaidFrames.lua: sRaidFrames: Remove deprecated variables |
| 18:59.47 | Ominous | string* |
| 18:59.54 | Ominous | str** |
| 19:00.11 | sonsora | does anybody know what the error means ? |
| 19:00.40 | Chompers | what line is the error on and what version of the addon do you have? |
| 19:00.53 | Saroz | Chompers, nope |
| 19:01.05 | sonsora | i have newest v. |
| 19:01.15 | Chompers | what version? |
| 19:01.15 | sonsora | dunno what you mean about line |
| 19:01.26 | CIA-23 | 03ominous * r35232 10ClassTimer/RuleSet.lua: ClassTimer: added custom text |
| 19:01.29 | sonsora | sec. chompers then i write v. |
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| 19:02.02 | sonsora | 33544.1007 |
| 19:02.10 | Chompers | when you get an error it should give you the line where the error occured |
| 19:02.22 | sonsora | well i wrote whole thing in error before |
| 19:02.29 | sonsora | Interface\addons\simpleminimap\modules\coords.lua:372: attempt to index field 'frame' (a nil value) |
| 19:02.58 | Kilroo | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:04.05 | sonsora | got an idea chompers ? |
| 19:04.38 | Chompers | no idea at all, but the info you provided should help to find the error |
| 19:05.18 | sonsora | yeah, but i'm not an addon pro guy, so i have no idea about what it means xD |
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| 19:08.33 | sonsora | adys know anybothing about addons ? |
| 19:08.48 | sonsora | *anything |
| 19:08.49 | Adys | anybothing? |
| 19:08.50 | Adys | oO |
| 19:09.04 | Adys | and I probably know less about addons than the other 210 users of this chan |
| 19:09.05 | sonsora | cos if you do, i need some help to simpleminimap |
| 19:09.07 | Adys | but you can stilla sk |
| 19:09.13 | Adys | ask/ |
| 19:09.19 | sonsora | ok |
| 19:09.22 | Industrial | sylvanaar: replied :3 |
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| 19:09.35 | Chompers | you've let people know about the bug, dont need to do anything else :) |
| 19:09.36 | sonsora | well when i try to activate co ords in simpleminimap i get this error: |
| 19:09.48 | sylvanaar | Industrial have you tried it on a running system? |
| 19:09.52 | sonsora | yeh i know chompers, but i would like it fixed :D |
| 19:09.53 | sonsora | Interface\addons\simpleminimap\modules\coords.lua:372: attempt to index field 'frame' (a nil value) |
| 19:09.55 | [dRaCo] | sonsora: calm down, somebody is already looking into the matter |
| 19:10.06 | Chompers | it will be in time |
| 19:10.23 | sonsora | ok cool |
| 19:10.46 | Industrial | sylvanaar: I haven't tried anything. I just dont see the problem in having more directories in your addons dir. If your addon has 30+ modules and you want to use all of them then thats the real problem. |
| 19:11.03 | sylvanaar | Industrial i think you should try it, and see |
| 19:11.30 | Industrial | I think its just a workaround to something thats already there |
| 19:11.31 | Industrial | :s |
| 19:11.50 | Ominous | kergoth: is it working now? |
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| 19:12.43 | sylvanaar | Industrial you really should try it before forming an opinion about it imo |
| 19:14.17 | abyssichate | what addon if I may ask? |
| 19:14.59 | Kilroo | Hey, quick question. How the heck do I get my chat window to show the name of the channel along with the channel number again? It's driving me batty. |
| 19:15.13 | abyssichate | Did you install Prat? |
| 19:15.18 | Kilroo | Yes. |
| 19:15.27 | ckknight | how's everyone doing today? |
| 19:15.31 | abyssichate | Try to look it up in Prat's options then |
| 19:15.39 | Kilroo | I did. I can't find it. |
| 19:15.51 | sylvanaar | ChannelNames? |
| 19:15.53 | Fin | ckknight: peachy, thanks. yourself? |
| 19:16.01 | ckknight | just woke up |
| 19:16.04 | Kilroo | Hiya, Boss. I'm doin' good. |
| 19:16.07 | sylvanaar | EnabledModules/ChannelNames |
| 19:16.09 | ckknight | slept a whole 4 hours |
| 19:16.09 | ckknight | :-P |
| 19:16.25 | Ominous | hmm the AceDB options arnt injecting themselves into my menu |
| 19:16.52 | Ominous | except for standby |
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| 19:17.33 | lun- | http://img119.imageshack.us/img119/172/errorzc9.jpg keep getting this error no matter what i do :/ |
| 19:17.35 | sylvanaar | perhaps the enabled addons menu is too obscure? |
| 19:17.35 | lun- | any suggestions ? :< |
| 19:18.18 | abyssichate | Update Ace2 and try using Bartender3 without externals |
| 19:18.21 | abyssichate | mine works wonders, so |
| 19:18.29 | Ominous | urm cld it be todo with i have profile and class type dbs? |
| 19:18.32 | lun- | without externals ? |
| 19:18.51 | abyssichate | Yes, the stuff you've got in \Bartender3\libs |
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| 19:19.15 | lun- | as in deleting the stuff in libs or ? |
| 19:21.05 | abyssichate | Yes, but if you do you need to download separately Ace2, DewDropLib, TabletLib, FubarPlugin-2.0 and WaterFall-1.0 |
| 19:21.05 | lun- | going to try that |
| 19:21.05 | sylvanaar | hearthstone is like a spell. cant be called from an addon |
| 19:21.06 | sylvanaar | if you use WAU, you can install !!!StandaloneLibraries with it |
| 19:21.49 | sylvanaar | thats the easiest way |
| 19:21.49 | abyssichate | Are all the libs lod? |
| 19:22.00 | CIA-23 | 03ckknight * r35233 10DogTag-1.0/DogTag-1.0/DogTag-1.0.lua: DogTag-1.0 - add in a provision where if the code doesn't compile, the user should inform me. |
| 19:22.11 | sylvanaar | yes, you dont have to worry about them at all |
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| 19:22.34 | Ominous | hey Kael |
| 19:22.43 | Kilroo | I don't understand how Poisonmenu can work but the hearthstone can't be triggered from an addon. Why's it different? |
| 19:22.50 | Ominous | its not |
| 19:22.51 | Kaelten | ello |
| 19:22.53 | sylvanaar | its a spell? |
| 19:22.59 | Ominous | just PoisonMenu uses secure frames |
| 19:23.06 | Ominous | hence i cant use fubar or dewdrop |
| 19:23.15 | Ominous | the HS cld be if it was set up with a secure frame |
| 19:23.18 | Kaelten | sli motherboards can still use only one card right? |
| 19:23.23 | Kilroo | Ah. |
| 19:23.40 | sylvanaar | Kaelten usually |
| 19:24.06 | Kaelten | I'm researching building my wife a new computer |
| 19:24.17 | Kilroo | Well, maybe what I'll do is just make a one-button bar, put my hearthstone in it, and try to get it positioned over top of my FuBar in a way that doesn't look ugly. |
| 19:24.25 | Kaelten | I'm looking at getting her the asus m2n-sli dlx motherboard |
| 19:24.33 | sylvanaar | Kaelten for sli? |
| 19:24.50 | Kaelten | but I'm not sure I'll have enough to get two graphics card atm might have to wait a month or two for the second one. |
| 19:25.14 | Kilroo | Or maybe I'll fix it up so I can use a hotkey. But having the place where I look to remind myself where my hearthstone is set be different from the place where I use it is really getting on my nerve. |
| 19:25.24 | sylvanaar | ah, you might consider just buying one good card and avoiding the hassle |
| 19:25.50 | Kaelten | hrm |
| 19:26.14 | Fisker- | sli is really a waste of money |
| 19:26.15 | Fisker- | imo |
| 19:26.22 | Kaelten | on the am2 athalons the EE is what? |
| 19:26.35 | sylvanaar | i dont see how much better performance you would need than this 8800gtx |
| 19:26.39 | Kaelten | Fisker-: I think it depends really |
| 19:26.42 | Matrix110 | dont buy A64s tbh |
| 19:26.49 | Matrix110 | C2D or wait for Phenoms |
| 19:26.55 | Kaelten | Matrix110: c2d? |
| 19:26.57 | Fisker- | yeah |
| 19:26.59 | Fisker- | core2 duio |
| 19:26.59 | CIA-23 | 03anea * r35234 10SpamSentry/ (27 files in 5 dirs): |
| 19:26.59 | CIA-23 | SpamSentry 20070512: |
| 19:27.00 | CIA-23 | - Tweaked filters to deal with some multi-message spam |
| 19:27.00 | CIA-23 | - Added an optional ignore-by-level |
| 19:27.00 | CIA-23 | - Updated translations |
| 19:27.00 | CIA-23 | - Fixed issue with closing social pane at random times. |
| 19:27.00 | Fisker- | duo |
| 19:27.00 | Matrix110 | Core 2 Duo |
| 19:27.02 | CIA-23 | - Added recognition of some zhTW Big5 spammers. |
| 19:27.37 | Matrix110 | And at monday the new Radeons get released might be worth to take a look at them depending on the price |
| 19:27.49 | Fisker- | depending on price yeah |
| 19:27.53 | Fisker- | they still suck major ass |
| 19:27.56 | [dRaCo] | yeah, those are currently better than the AMDs |
| 19:28.20 | Fisker- | they're like what, half a year behind Nvidia and they didn't even put up with a competitive card |
| 19:28.26 | Kaelten | looks like the c2d are around the same price as the amds atm |
| 19:28.39 | [dRaCo] | with better performance |
| 19:29.09 | sylvanaar | lol at adrianne demo |
| 19:29.12 | Kaelten | but now I don't know what motherboard to get |
| 19:29.15 | Matrix110 | Fisker- they dont suck Oo and the HD2900XT is faster as the GTS and abit slower than the GTX but Nividia had 6month for driver optimisations |
| 19:29.21 | Kaelten | I'm not looking to make a bleeding edge system. |
| 19:29.33 | Matrix110 | Gigabyte P965 DS3-P |
| 19:29.33 | Kaelten | I just want something strong enough to last a few years |
| 19:29.37 | Saint-N | get one that doesnt suck ;) |
| 19:29.45 | Saint-N | gigabytes are good |
| 19:29.48 | Saint-N | and cheap |
| 19:29.49 | sylvanaar | buy a genuine intel motherboard |
| 19:29.56 | Saint-N | ive been loving my soyo dragon though |
| 19:29.59 | Matrix110 | Gigabyte GA-965P-DS3 S775 |
| 19:30.05 | Saint-N | same board ive had for 2.5 years or so |
| 19:30.22 | Saint-N | 3 chip changes |
| 19:31.27 | Matrix110 | If you want to upgrade the CPU in ~1-2years orso i would get a P35 Motherboard though as you can use the Peryn then aswell |
| 19:31.34 | Stephmw | talking of nvidia... their xp drivers for the 8XXX series stink |
| 19:31.48 | Stephmw | have to run in opengl to prevent driver BSODS |
| 19:31.59 | Matrix110 | Oo |
| 19:32.06 | Matrix110 | their Vista drivers suck ass aswell afaik |
| 19:32.53 | Stephmw | in a way, I'm grateful WINE doesn't support d3d all that well so I've never had a driver-related crash on linux |
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| 19:33.07 | Stephmw | (for the curious, 2 machines, one linux, one winxp) |
| 19:34.16 | Kaelten | last few I've gotten are either asus or msi |
| 19:34.19 | Matrix110 | and depending on how needed the system for your wife is you could wait for AMDs new CPUs aswell |
| 19:34.20 | Kaelten | never had a gigabyte |
| 19:34.39 | [dRaCo] | I'd go for an abit board |
| 19:34.41 | Matrix110 | the Gigabytes are atm the best boards for C2Ds |
| 19:34.45 | lun- | abyssichate did as you said http://img513.imageshack.us/img513/6286/error2eg9.jpg still aint working :/ |
| 19:35.56 | Funkeh` | delete your WDB folder |
| 19:36.36 | lun- | kay done |
| 19:36.37 | CIA-23 | 03ominous * r35235 10ClassTimer/ (Core.lua RuleSet.lua): ClassTimer: menu stuff |
| 19:36.37 | Ominous | who is the main worker on acedb |
| 19:36.52 | Fisker- | Elkano |
| 19:36.54 | Fisker- | you here btw? |
| 19:37.00 | Fisker- | i guess it's ckknight :P |
| 19:37.18 | Ominous | kergoth: ping |
| 19:38.24 | Fisker- | hi! |
| 19:39.01 | Fisker- | i want to be able to group my buffs |
| 19:39.13 | Fisker- | i.e. just one long line of buffs |
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| 19:44.52 | Stephmw | Kaelten: I have two asus atm too, M2N32 series - one's the WS, the other is the SLi |
| 19:46.37 | Amadeo | haha, I love it |
| 19:46.41 | Amadeo | Hunters never inspect Intimidating Shout |
| 19:46.42 | vhaarr | I'm never buying ASUS again. |
| 19:46.54 | Amadeo | No ASUS? |
| 19:47.18 | ZealotOnAStick | ASUS has been really reliable for a long time. I've read/heard that some of their newer products have issues. |
| 19:47.35 | Amadeo | Whatever happened to Supermicro? They were awesome back in the day :P |
| 19:47.35 | Stephmw | mine are fine, but they need a hefty PSU |
| 19:47.50 | ZealotOnAStick | I've got an ASUS Socket 939 SLI board in my main rig, it's been solid. |
| 19:48.06 | vhaarr | I have no problems with the ASUS hardware, but their software support tools are fucking awful. |
| 19:48.35 | Kaelten | my desktop has one of the k8n msi boards |
| 19:48.37 | Matrix110 | Asus is good aslong as it doesnt break |
| 19:49.01 | Kaelten | its pretty good |
| 19:49.05 | vhaarr | I think I'll get MSI next time I upgrade. |
| 19:49.18 | Kaelten | vhaarr make sure you have a good powersupply |
| 19:49.20 | Matrix110 | Asus tries to be a "sony" company charging for their name... |
| 19:49.21 | Amadeo | Hahahah, that was the best ever...the Hunter that I was just fighting as AV ended made a char on my server to talk to me |
| 19:49.23 | vhaarr | Kaelten: alright |
| 19:49.45 | Kaelten | vhaarr the only thing is they are really sensitve to voltage fluxes |
| 19:50.00 | Matrix110 | MSI/Gigabyte are atleast for C2D the way to go |
| 19:50.09 | vhaarr | Or maybe Abit. |
| 19:50.22 | Matrix110 | no... |
| 19:50.23 | Fisker- | I just bought the P965-DS3 |
| 19:50.26 | Fisker- | from gigabyte |
| 19:50.27 | Matrix110 | got a Abit atm... |
| 19:50.29 | Fisker- | no complaints here |
| 19:50.30 | Matrix110 | never ever:P |
| 19:50.37 | vhaarr | okay, not abit then |
| 19:50.51 | Matrix110 | Abit support here in europe is a pain |
| 19:51.04 | [dRaCo] | but their hardware rocks ;) |
| 19:51.59 | Matrix110 | a dutch speaker tries to give me support in german the problem is he cant understand me or speak german... |
| 19:52.21 | Matrix110 | we had to talk in engl. then |
| 19:52.31 | Matrix110 | but well atleast i got a new BIOS chip after 4 weeks.. |
| 19:52.40 | [dRaCo] | never had to talk to their support |
| 19:53.21 | Kaelten | I hope BFG tech keeps making motherboards |
| 19:53.24 | Kaelten | I'm hopefull |
| 19:53.26 | sylvanaar | vhaarr yeah, my last non-intel board was an asus. only intel mobo's from now on for me |
| 19:54.06 | vhaarr | oh |
| 19:54.09 | vhaarr | never tried intel, actually |
| 19:54.36 | sylvanaar | awesome - they are excellent |
| 19:54.53 | vhaarr | I can imagine |
| 19:54.59 | Kaelten | which chipset is better the intel 945g or the nforce 650i? |
| 19:55.26 | Matrix110 | P965 or P35 |
| 19:55.27 | Amadeo | sylvanaar: Intel branded, or Intel chipset? |
| 19:55.33 | sylvanaar | branded |
| 19:55.35 | Matrix110 | no nvidia chipset please for INtel |
| 19:55.42 | Matrix110 | only if you want to run nv cards in SLI |
| 19:55.46 | Amadeo | I have an older Intel board, not really crazy about it |
| 19:55.50 | Amadeo | too many limitations |
| 19:55.51 | Fisker- | nvidia cards are fine |
| 19:55.55 | Fisker- | but only if you want to run SLI |
| 19:55.58 | Fisker- | as Matrix110 say :P |
| 19:56.07 | Fisker- | waste of money otherwise |
| 19:56.26 | Matrix110 | Intel Boards got short warranty here |
| 19:56.29 | sylvanaar | Amadeo what limitations - are they unique to the board? |
| 19:56.30 | CIA-23 | 03ckknight * r35236 10PitBull/PitBull.lua: PitBull - decrease step for spacing options. |
| 19:56.34 | Fisker- | btw i recommend 4GB of RAM :P |
| 19:56.41 | sylvanaar | me too |
| 19:56.41 | Fisker- | it's so cheap |
| 19:56.44 | Ominous | Fisker-: basterd |
| 19:56.46 | Amadeo | sylvanaar: Possibly, just like I can't do any tweaking...it's a stock board and that's it, no overclocking, etc |
| 19:56.52 | Amadeo | but it's old, 845 |
| 19:56.55 | Gnarfoz | on 32bit systems, that will be just 3 or 3.5 tho |
| 19:56.55 | Matrix110 | yes 4GB with the current memory prices is a must |
| 19:57.05 | sylvanaar | oh, well, i can overclock my board |
| 19:57.21 | Amadeo | They must have added more stuff in the newer ones |
| 19:57.29 | sylvanaar | that reminds me i need to adjust the ram timings |
| 19:57.44 | Fisker- | btw you got a dual core sylvanaar? |
| 19:57.46 | Fisker- | or a quad? |
| 19:57.50 | sylvanaar | quad |
| 19:57.54 | sylvanaar | q6600 |
| 19:58.13 | Fisker- | O_o |
| 19:58.16 | Matrix110 | what i dislike at INtel boards is that they normally dont offer as much features as other boards for the same price |
| 19:58.17 | Fisker- | was windows install fast for you? |
| 19:58.37 | sylvanaar | i dont like the memory i got - its stupid marketing memory - im going to return it and buy some other sticks |
| 19:58.47 | sylvanaar | lol, i didnt reinstall |
| 19:58.57 | sylvanaar | i just swapped boards |
| 19:59.01 | Fisker- | ok :( |
| 19:59.17 | Fisker- | i'm having to use like 40-60 minutes to install |
| 19:59.25 | Matrix110 | and why would the Windows install go faster with a quadcore? |
| 19:59.32 | Fisker- | the vista install itself just hangs for 3-5 minutes without showing anything |
| 19:59.40 | Fisker- | i didn't meant faster |
| 19:59.42 | Fisker- | i meant normal |
| 19:59.44 | Matrix110 | its mostly the HDD/DVD Drive that speeds up the installation |
| 19:59.47 | Matrix110 | oh kk |
| 20:00.00 | Fisker- | there wasn't even HDD/DVD operation during the time |
| 20:00.10 | Fisker- | and i've installed windows quicker on my old machine |
| 20:00.15 | Kaelten | http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813130081 |
| 20:00.16 | Fisker- | a lot quicker |
| 20:00.17 | Matrix110 | that is weird |
| 20:00.20 | Kaelten | that one looks nice |
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| 20:00.36 | Matrix110 | Kaelten do you plan on getting SLI cards? |
| 20:00.36 | Fisker- | When i install in vmware the installation is also really fast |
| 20:00.40 | Matrix110 | else its a TOTAL waste |
| 20:00.55 | sylvanaar | sli is a waste |
| 20:00.56 | Matrix110 | and SLI cards are well a waste aswell |
| 20:01.00 | Fisker- | ^^ |
| 20:01.02 | Kaelten | matrix I will be, if not atm in a month or two I will. |
| 20:01.07 | Matrix110 | if you dont want 4 Screens |
| 20:01.41 | ckknight | I need Nargiddley. |
| 20:01.52 | ckknight | I'm haxoring the AceOptions spec |
| 20:01.56 | sylvanaar | and you take on alot of compatability problems |
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| 20:02.04 | Fisker- | SLI is for when you want to run in the highest resolution with all graphics enabled on some insane 32" LCD monitor |
| 20:02.04 | Matrix110 | the only nice thing with SLI is |
| 20:02.15 | QQngsk | Tuller, ping |
| 20:02.19 | Matrix110 | that if you got a 2year old board with only 1 card inside |
| 20:02.26 | Tuller | QQngsk: ? |
| 20:02.28 | Matrix110 | you can crab a cheap one of the same kind |
| 20:02.33 | Matrix110 | and get some performance boost^^ |
| 20:02.45 | Kaelten | on the c2d whats the difference between 6400 and the 6420 or the 6300 and the 6320? |
| 20:02.56 | QQngsk | Tuller, got this error from SellFish when Hemlock starting scanning for poisons: SellFish\tooltips.lua:56: Invalid trade skill item in SetTradeSkillItem(index [,reagent]) |
| 20:03.00 | Matrix110 | the clockrate and cache Kaelten |
| 20:03.04 | Kaelten | matrix110 thats kinda what I'm planning is to grab a few cheaper boards instead of one really fast one. |
| 20:03.04 | QQngsk | tuller, your error or hemlocks? |
| 20:03.14 | Kaelten | matrix they are the same price I guess thats why its confusing |
| 20:03.17 | Tuller | QQngsk: probably me, are you using the most recent version? |
| 20:04.05 | QQngsk | got it yesterday or so from wowi |
| 20:04.05 | Matrix110 | get a E6600 |
| 20:04.05 | sylvanaar | get a dx10 card |
| 20:04.06 | Matrix110 | its under 200€ |
| 20:04.26 | Tuller | QQngsk: what are you mousing over to cause it? |
| 20:04.27 | Matrix110 | Oo |
| 20:04.28 | QQngsk | tuller, I wasn't mousing over anything hemlock does a reagent scanning routine when it sets up, that's when the error occured and the routine halted short |
| 20:04.28 | Matrix110 | CPUs are expensive @newegg |
| 20:04.33 | Matrix110 | orwait |
| 20:04.37 | Matrix110 | forgot that its dollar |
| 20:04.57 | *** join/#wowace Kaelten (n=chatzill@c-69-181-47-80.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) |
| 20:04.57 | *** mode/#wowace [+o Kaelten] by ChanServ |
| 20:05.08 | sylvanaar | wow the X6800 came down in price |
| 20:05.10 | QQngsk | Tuller, let me try and reproduce it, I wasn't actually paying 100% attention, might've been mousing over an action button |
| 20:05.55 | Gnarfoz | <@Kaelten> on the c2d whats the difference between 6400 and the 6420 or the 6300 and the 6320? <-- the *20 ones have double the cache, else they are same |
| 20:06.11 | Kaelten | so if I can get them for the same price go for the *20 I take it |
| 20:06.22 | Gnarfoz | indeed |
| 20:06.27 | Matrix110 | get a 6600 |
| 20:06.29 | Matrix110 | :P |
| 20:06.33 | Gnarfoz | what for damnit |
| 20:06.33 | QQngsk | Tuller, hmm reload -> scan -> no error *shrug* |
| 20:06.49 | Gnarfoz | it's just more expensive because they clock it higher... it's not like you can't do that yourself -.- |
| 20:06.50 | Tuller | QQngsk: you can also check against itempricetooltip on the SVN |
| 20:06.51 | Kaelten | the 6400 is ~50 cheaper |
| 20:06.55 | Kaelten | from the store I normaly shop at |
| 20:07.14 | Matrix110 | well here it is 10-20euro |
| 20:07.30 | Kaelten | hehe |
| 20:08.09 | Kaelten | is 667 ddr2 that muhc worse than the 800? |
| 20:09.32 | Bibi`ouF | I'd say 133 worse. |
| 20:09.32 | Matrix110 | Kaelten you wont notice it |
| 20:09.36 | Matrix110 | but its measurable |
| 20:09.44 | Matrix110 | you loose some FPS |
| 20:09.56 | Fisker- | get 667 over 533 btw |
| 20:10.33 | Matrix110 | but with the current memory prices(atleast here) 800 is almost the same as 667 |
| 20:10.57 | Fisker- | here 667 is cheaper than 533 |
| 20:11.07 | Fisker- | but 800 was significantly expensive |
| 20:11.39 | Matrix110 | 2GB 667= 63euro 2GB 800= 68euro |
| 20:11.46 | sylvanaar | get the one that is compatabile with your mainbus clock |
| 20:12.21 | Matrix110 | He can get both sylvanaar with the mainboard he wants to buy |
| 20:12.42 | sylvanaar | yeah, depends on what cpu he puts in tho no? |
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| 20:13.19 | Fisker- | no |
| 20:13.23 | sylvanaar | yes |
| 20:13.24 | Matrix110 | not reallyOo |
| 20:13.27 | Fisker- | you can always run the memory asynchronized |
| 20:13.34 | Fisker- | and that actually yields the best results |
| 20:13.36 | Fisker- | (for some reason) |
| 20:14.05 | sylvanaar | you can run stock timings at 1.8v at it will all work |
| 20:15.13 | sylvanaar | mostly its just a waste getting higher rated ram than you will run at..guess that was what i meant |
| 20:16.11 | Matrix110 | if its just a few dollars to buy the faster one and you get some FPS with it i would do it:P but well thats everyones own decission |
| 20:16.21 | sylvanaar | yeah true |
| 20:16.30 | CIA-23 | 03ckknight * r35237 10DewdropLib/Dewdrop-2.0/Dewdrop-2.0.lua: |
| 20:16.30 | CIA-23 | .Dewdrop-2.0 - added bigStep to the range part of AceOptions, which will be used when dragging the slider, but the normal step will be used when typing in a value or using the mousewheel. |
| 20:16.30 | CIA-23 | - consequently, Dewdrop AddLine option sliderBigStep is added. |
| 20:16.35 | Matrix110 | if its 10 or 20 dollars diffrence then i would think about it aswell |
| 20:16.42 | Amadeo | I think ckknight is a robot |
| 20:16.49 | ckknight | your mom's a robot |
| 20:16.59 | Amadeo | haha |
| 20:17.04 | Fin | ckknight's your mum? |
| 20:17.08 | sylvanaar | oh ckk, please fix the bug with .order causing random spacing in dewdrop |
| 20:17.13 | Amadeo | domo arigato? |
| 20:17.21 | ckknight | sylvanaar: doesn't mess up for me |
| 20:17.33 | sylvanaar | lol |
| 20:17.39 | Fin | hai |
| 20:17.41 | ckknight | subsequently, you fix it |
| 20:17.43 | Matrix110 | oh and Kaelten get a proper soundcard the onboard cards are total bullshit! |
| 20:17.48 | sylvanaar | i tried |
| 20:18.04 | Kaelten | problem I had was my stand alone one made my desktop freeze |
| 20:18.25 | Gnarfoz | was that system overclocked? |
| 20:18.34 | Fisker- | my onboard is ok |
| 20:18.43 | Matrix110 | onboards are not ok |
| 20:18.47 | Fisker- | my old creative card sucked donkey balls |
| 20:18.49 | Gnarfoz | today's onboards are ok-ish |
| 20:18.54 | Fisker- | and i don't have money for another one :P |
| 20:18.55 | Matrix110 | all realtek chips are bullcrap |
| 20:19.20 | CIA-23 | 03borlox * r35238 10Privacy2/ (Core.lua Gui.lua Locale-deDE.lua Locale-enUS.lua Version.txt): |
| 20:19.20 | CIA-23 | Privacy2: |
| 20:19.21 | CIA-23 | -added an option to change the private keyword |
| 20:19.21 | CIA-23 | -improved the gui |
| 20:19.21 | CIA-23 | -added an option to block whispers from people who are out of range. this needs more testing, so its disabled (use /run Privacy.db.profile.onlyInRange = true to enable) |
| 20:19.46 | Fisker- | I wanna slapp creative though for not colorcoding their inputs |
| 20:19.54 | Fisker- | so fucking stupid it's unbelievable |
| 20:20.09 | Gnarfoz | huh? |
| 20:20.09 | Gnarfoz | mine are |
| 20:20.16 | Amadeo | some are and some aren't I think |
| 20:20.20 | Amadeo | depends on the card |
| 20:20.25 | Gnarfoz | gold-plated ones aren't, obviously |
| 20:20.37 | Amadeo | goooooolddddddd |
| 20:20.45 | Kaelten | I can get 4gb of the 667 for 150 US |
| 20:20.49 | Gnarfoz | oh fuck my ass... who made spamsentry auto-unpack gayness |
| 20:20.56 | Gnarfoz | another .nounpack folder -.- |
| 20:20.58 | Matrix110 | And 800 Kaelten? |
| 20:21.06 | Kaelten | and I'm having a hard time finding 800s |
| 20:22.06 | CIA-23 | 03ckknight * r35239 10PitBull/ (Aura/Aura.lua Layouts/ABF.lua PitBull.lua): PitBull - use bigStep in AceOptions |
| 20:22.12 | Kaelten | looks like 2gb of 800 for 135 |
| 20:22.25 | Gnarfoz | get 667s then |
| 20:22.43 | Matrix110 | if the diffrence is that high then yes 667 |
| 20:23.17 | Matrix110 | what is your wife doing with the PC btw? |
| 20:23.21 | Kaelten | she's a gamer |
| 20:23.24 | Matrix110 | ah |
| 20:23.38 | Matrix110 | what Screen is she using? |
| 20:23.45 | Gnarfoz | lucky you, btw |
| 20:23.46 | Gnarfoz | ^^ |
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| 20:24.59 | Ominous | ckknight: whats bigstep |
| 20:25.02 | Kaelten | right now my old 19" crt |
| 20:25.21 | ckknight | Ominous: I described it in the previous commit |
| 20:25.22 | kergoth | meh, quartz target/focus casting bars are hokey right now |
| 20:25.26 | Ominous | k |
| 20:25.29 | kergoth | the cast finished and its just hung sitting there |
| 20:25.37 | Ominous | kergoth: hows ClassTimer? |
| 20:26.21 | Matrix110 | hmm if you dont plan to get a new screen the next years then a 320MB 8800GTS is enough else 640MB or GTX |
| 20:26.56 | art3mis | kael |
| 20:26.56 | Gnarfoz | is she running 1600x1200? |
| 20:27.02 | art3mis | www.tigerdirect.com |
| 20:27.10 | CIA-23 | 03ckknight * r35240 10Cartographer/ (4 files in 4 dirs): Cartographer - use bigStep |
| 20:27.15 | Matrix110 | on a 19" CRT prolly not |
| 20:27.16 | art3mis | they've got 2gb for 79 after rebate |
| 20:27.25 | kergoth | Ominous: dunno yet, guildie needed help with something in live, i'll check after this |
| 20:27.35 | Elkano | bigStep? |
| 20:27.37 | Gnarfoz | Matrix110: oO |
| 20:28.01 | Elkano | ah :) |
| 20:28.13 | Fisker- | i think ckknight is going in wtf dude overload mode soon |
| 20:28.19 | Fisker- | i was about to ask what bigstep was as well ;D |
| 20:28.20 | ckknight | ? |
| 20:28.27 | ckknight | if you do, I'll kick you. |
| 20:28.30 | Ominous | kergoth: k |
| 20:28.38 | ckknight | because you'd be too incompetent to look up a few lines |
| 20:28.43 | ckknight | or to look it up yourself |
| 20:28.59 | Matrix110 | well 1600x1200 with 85Hz or more the CRT would be quite expensive most ppl cant run that:P its 1280x or 1152x normally on 19" |
| 20:29.15 | Fisker- | hey i said i was about to when i saw it was already asked :( |
| 20:29.23 | Ominous | please can someone say my name |
| 20:29.28 | Matrix110 | Ominous |
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| 20:29.31 | Ominous | thanks |
| 20:29.41 | Kaelten | one problem is I'm paranoid about filling all 4 memory slots on thismotherboard |
| 20:29.47 | Matrix110 | why? |
| 20:29.50 | ckknight | why? |
| 20:30.03 | Matrix110 | if not get 2x2GB :P |
| 20:30.11 | Matrix110 | but they are quite a bit more expensive |
| 20:30.13 | ckknight | nah |
| 20:30.16 | Fisker- | usually a lot more expensive |
| 20:30.17 | Fisker- | ^^ |
| 20:30.29 | ckknight | go with 2x1GiB, 2x512MiB |
| 20:30.38 | ckknight | due to memory hoisting, you won't really be able to use the 4th gig |
| 20:30.56 | Matrix110 | 64bit XP or Vista:P |
| 20:30.59 | Fisker- | ^^ |
| 20:31.10 | Fisker- | but it still depends on the memory used elsewhere |
| 20:31.16 | Matrix110 | dualboot though with a 32bit XP zth |
| 20:31.20 | Matrix110 | that everything runs |
| 20:31.21 | Kaelten | on my current one I went with 4 x 512 and I later learned it can cause some timing issues with the mother board I had |
| 20:31.23 | Thrae_ppc | Kaelten: What you need to worry about is making sure all memory has the same specs, not if they are the same size. If your two 512 in there right now are 2.5 cas, then get 2x1GB w/ 2.5 cas. |
| 20:31.25 | Fisker- | if you got a graphics card with 320MB memory you will use up to 3,68GB memory |
| 20:31.36 | Thrae_ppc | Kaelten: Of course, all memory should also be the same brand. |
| 20:31.43 | Kaelten | thrae building it from scratch |
| 20:31.48 | Kaelten | there is no preexisting |
| 20:31.50 | Silviu- | ckknight http://img526.imageshack.us/my.php?image=wowscrnshot051207233048iz7.jpg , when i used Nature`s Grasp |
| 20:31.53 | Thrae_ppc | Oh, that's easy then |
| 20:32.02 | Gnarfoz | ~seen anea |
| 20:32.37 | purl | anea <n=apyss@a62-251-8-41.adsl.xs4all.nl> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 11d 2h 54m 53s ago, saying: 'working on a clean install with just opera as irc client, guess i'll have to download something better'. |
| 20:32.37 | Fisker- | the up to 768MB memory loss isn't that important imo, especially not when at some point you'll naturally move on to 64-bit os' |
| 20:32.38 | Gnarfoz | ~poke purl |
| 20:32.45 | purl | ACTION cuts down a small tree, sneaks up behind purl, pokes purl repeatedly, hilarity ensues. |
| 20:32.47 | Thrae_ppc | In WoW's case, I'm not sure a 64-bit OS + drivers would really help much, as WoW has 0 optimization for 64-bit. |
| 20:32.59 | Gnarfoz | 11d o_O |
| 20:33.04 | Gnarfoz | -.- |
| 20:33.21 | Fisker- | sleeps tiems |
| 20:33.22 | Fisker- | night peopel |
| 20:33.29 | Thrae_ppc | WoW is a 32-bit application, which means it runs in 32-bit mode. |
| 20:33.37 | ckknight | Thrae_ppc: but in such a case, WoW's memory would allow for a virtual memory of up to 4 GiB, if you have >= to that |
| 20:33.41 | Xuerian | It isn't so much wow getting the use of the memory, but the rest of the OS. 32 bit has serious issues handling that much memory, whereas wow could eat that 2gb and the system could use the rest with no problems. Wow will be 32bit anyway |
| 20:33.57 | ckknight | Thrae_ppc: granted, that's overkill |
| 20:34.22 | Thrae_ppc | ckknight: Virtual memory is a pagefile, you mean memory overall? |
| 20:34.58 | ckknight | I mean in a 64-bit system, if you have >= 4 GiB, 32-bit apps will be able to use a full 4 GiB, allocated by the OS |
| 20:35.24 | Thrae_ppc | Yeah, and Windows XP always had sucky allocation procedures for me...needs a lot of fine-tuning |
| 20:38.01 | Thrae_ppc | Kaelten: Unless you're looking for omgwtf00ber computer, just get 3GB |
| 20:38.22 | CIA-23 | 03ckknight * r35241 10Cartographer_Herbalism/addon.lua: Cartographer_Herbalism - use bigStep |
| 20:38.33 | CIA-23 | 03ckknight * r35242 10Cartographer_Mining/addon.lua: Cartographer_Mining - use bigStep |
| 20:38.41 | CIA-23 | 03ckknight * r35243 10Cartographer_Quests/addon.lua: Cartographer_Quests - use bigStep |
| 20:38.45 | CIA-23 | 03ckknight * r35244 10Cartographer_Trainers/addon.lua: Cartographer_Trainers - use bigStep |
| 20:38.58 | CIA-23 | 03ckknight * r35245 10Cartographer_Vendors/addon.lua: Cartographer_Vendors - use bigStep |
| 20:40.14 | Matrix110 | Thrae_ppc new Games tend to use ALOT of memory |
| 20:40.19 | Gnarfoz | ergh |
| 20:40.40 | Gnarfoz | ckknight: did you change ABF's default sizes of hp/energy/castbar? |
| 20:41.03 | Kaelten | if I need to choose between 2gb of 800 andmore of 667 which should I choose though? |
| 20:41.06 | ckknight | Gnarfoz: I renamed the mana bar to power bar, which destroyed settings for that. |
| 20:41.35 | Gnarfoz | arf |
| 20:41.37 | CIA-23 | 03ckknight * r35246 10FuBar/FuBar.lua: FuBar - use bigStep |
| 20:41.43 | Matrix110 | Kaelten i would go for 4GB 667 instead of 2GB 800 but only if you got a 64bit OS |
| 20:42.04 | Kaelten | is vista a 64bit os? |
| 20:42.13 | Kaelten | probably not be default huh? |
| 20:42.25 | Gnarfoz | it can be both, depens which you get |
| 20:42.26 | Thrae_ppc | Matrix110: So he can get more memory when he finds a game that needs it, no need to put it all in at once (unless he's building this computer for someone who doesn't even know how to install memory) |
| 20:42.43 | Matrix110 | dunno if his wife can install memory:P |
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| 20:42.45 | ckknight | Kaelten: there's 32-bit and 64-bit versions |
| 20:42.49 | ZealotOnAStick | What's bigStep? |
| 20:42.50 | Matrix110 | but i guess he can do it then^^ |
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| 20:42.57 | CIA-23 | 03ckknight * r35247 10FuBar_FuXPFu/FuBar_FuXPFu.lua: FuBar_FuXPFu - use bigStep |
| 20:42.57 | Matrix110 | ZealotOnAStick i wouldnt have asked that:P |
| 20:43.00 | ckknight | well, I'm gonna hold true to my word |
| 20:43.04 | *** kick/#wowace [ZealotOnAStick!n=ckknight@rrcs-74-62-251-185.west.biz.rr.com] by ckknight (ckknight) |
| 20:43.10 | Kaelten | Thrae_ppc: Its for my wife |
| 20:43.24 | *** join/#wowace ZealotOnAStick (n=zoas@c-69-246-194-227.hsd1.in.comcast.net) |
| 20:43.24 | *** mode/#wowace [+v ZealotOnAStick] by ChanServ |
| 20:43.31 | ckknight | :-P |
| 20:43.32 | hyperChipmunk | does that mean he's not gonna say what it is? |
| 20:43.34 | Silviu- | ZealotOnAStick .Dewdrop-2.0 - added bigStep to the range part of AceOptions?, which will be used when dragging the slider, but the normal step will be used when typing in a value or using the mousewheel. - consequently, Dewdrop AddLine? option sliderBigStep is added. |
| 20:43.35 | Kaelten | http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820134045 |
| 20:43.42 | ZealotOnAStick | Thanks for the fucking kick, now any scrollback that might have been there for me to read up and see is fucking toast now. |
| 20:43.47 | art3mis | any of you nerds in nyc? |
| 20:43.53 | Matrix110 | Thrae_ppc and well from my point of view getting the memory you want to use at once is better than getting some memory later (i tried to and failed horribly with my Mainboard :P) |
| 20:44.03 | ckknight | ZealotOnAStick: meh, I threatened to kick whoever asked that again |
| 20:44.09 | ckknight | I don't want to go back on my word |
| 20:44.15 | ckknight | that wouldn't be patriotic |
| 20:44.29 | Thrae_ppc | Matrix110: Just consult your motherboard's manual for which memory to stick with, most reputable MB makers keep a QVL |
| 20:44.29 | art3mis | you could get a non-gay client that doesnt behave that way too zealot ;P |
| 20:44.41 | Matrix110 | Thrae_ppc i bought the SAME memory again:P |
| 20:44.45 | ZealotOnAStick | suggest a couple, and I'l lsee if I can tolerate them. |
| 20:44.49 | *** kick/#wowace [ckknight!n=chatzill@c-69-181-47-80.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] by Kaelten (don't be a pain) |
| 20:44.51 | art3mis | openchat32 |
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| 20:44.52 | *** mode/#wowace [+o ckknight] by ChanServ |
| 20:45.07 | Kaelten | :) |
| 20:45.07 | art3mis | http://www.gothi.ca/Stuff/openchat32.rar or .zip can't remember |
| 20:45.11 | ckknight | also, ZealotOnAStick, why doesn't your client keep the channel open after being kicked? |
| 20:45.13 | Thrae_ppc | Matrix110: I've never had a problem for the 16 years I've been building computers, except when the memory itself is bad or I didn't have the right specs for the MB / Memory |
| 20:45.22 | art3mis | it basically looks like a nice happy unix terminal |
| 20:45.28 | art3mis | with multi tabbed winders |
| 20:45.33 | Matrix110 | well it was my Mainboard causing the problem |
| 20:45.50 | Matrix110 | 2 new alone ran perfect |
| 20:45.53 | Matrix110 | 2 old alone ran perfect |
| 20:45.56 | Kaelten | cas latency is better lower right? |
| 20:45.57 | Matrix110 | 4 together no |
| 20:45.58 | Thrae_ppc | Kaelten: Get Asus or suffer |
| 20:46.01 | Matrix110 | yes Kaelten |
| 20:46.06 | ZealotOnAStick | I dunno, because it doesn't? I've not precisely invested a lot of time and effort into finding IRC clients. |
| 20:46.09 | Thrae_ppc | Matrix110: Not my fault if you get a sucky MB ;) |
| 20:46.12 | Matrix110 | Get everything besides Asus or Suffer:P |
| 20:46.17 | art3mis | giga is getting nice |
| 20:46.24 | art3mis | for amds i love the new soyos |
| 20:47.08 | ZealotOnAStick | Openchat needs more web representation. 3 hit son google, one is the domain which just says "It works!", another is in russian or something. |
| 20:47.17 | CIA-23 | 03ckknight * r35248 10PitBull_RangeCheck/PitBull_RangeCheck.lua: PitBull_RangeCheck - use bigStep |
| 20:47.23 | Kaelten | I'm going with msi for the motherboard |
| 20:47.31 | Matrix110 | hmm |
| 20:47.35 | Thrae_ppc | MSI or Asus are the best for a gaming board |
| 20:47.52 | Matrix110 | Gigabyte without big condensators! |
| 20:48.00 | Thrae_ppc | I prefer Asus over MSI, but Asus is a little bit more expensive |
| 20:48.00 | Amadeo | I want Supermicro to come back into the limelight :( |
| 20:48.43 | art3mis | asus for amd is the suhk |
| 20:48.55 | art3mis | i hates asus soooo much ;P |
| 20:49.06 | Thrae_ppc | art3mis: How so? |
| 20:49.09 | art3mis | for intel they're nice though |
| 20:49.10 | ckknight | Industrial: ping |
| 20:49.19 | Elkano | omg... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_bYYT6Wg3Gg |
| 20:49.27 | art3mis | Thrae_ppc: past experiences as a end user tech |
| 20:49.39 | art3mis | im sorta biased against them because of all the driver and compat issues |
| 20:49.49 | art3mis | and horrible performance |
| 20:49.53 | art3mis | on inetl they're nice |
| 20:49.59 | Thrae_ppc | art3mis: I've been using Asus for around 5 years, including building tons of systems for other people, only had 1 problem which was easy to fix |
| 20:50.01 | art3mis | but for some reason they didnt like playing with amd |
| 20:50.12 | art3mis | yeah its a total personal thing |
| 20:50.18 | Thrae_ppc | Kaelten: So, did you say you're going with AMD64 over Intel Dual Core? |
| 20:50.18 | art3mis | kinna like maxtor drives ;P |
| 20:50.35 | art3mis | some people loved em some hated them |
| 20:50.35 | Kaelten | Thrae_ppc: actually the one I picked is for the c2d |
| 20:50.47 | art3mis | amd64x2 are sooooooooo perty |
| 20:50.48 | CIA-23 | 03ckknight * r35249 10Bartender3/Options.lua: Bartender3 - use bigStep |
| 20:50.53 | Amadeo | I can't say I've ever had HD problems before |
| 20:51.03 | Thrae_ppc | Kaelten: I'd say go with Asus over MSI then, since Asus always had solid Intel support |
| 20:51.04 | Amadeo | I still have a 10GB Maxtor that works flawlessly |
| 20:51.14 | art3mis | the old maxtors used to heat up raelly fast because they were the first breed of 7200s |
| 20:51.23 | art3mis | at the 20gb and 40gb |
| 20:51.25 | Matrix110 | I wouldnt get maxtor |
| 20:51.29 | art3mis | so there were LOTS of bad batches |
| 20:51.31 | Amadeo | I think mine is 7200, the old 10GB |
| 20:51.32 | Matrix110 | and i got a 80/120 and a 10gb.. |
| 20:51.33 | Diao | i've never had a problem with asus |
| 20:51.34 | Thrae_ppc | art3mis: Yeah, maxtors get hot, I keep all my HDDs in bays w/ fans anyway |
| 20:51.35 | art3mis | i personally never had one die |
| 20:51.46 | Matrix110 | Western Digital <3 |
| 20:51.47 | art3mis | but ive rma'd lots for others |
| 20:51.50 | Matrix110 | cant hear it ever |
| 20:51.50 | CIA-23 | 03ckknight * r35250 10Yata/ (Options.lua Timers.lua): Yata - use bigStep |
| 20:51.54 | art3mis | and wdc has the single best rma policy ever |
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| 20:52.12 | ckknight | alright, everything I have in my AddOns folder now uses bigStep |
| 20:52.12 | Thrae_ppc | I had no problem RMA'ing a Samsung which died in like 3 months after purchase |
| 20:52.15 | art3mis | we dont care whats wrong, if you ran our util and if coughed out an error code well rma it for ya |
| 20:52.35 | art3mis | even if you just wanted a bigger drive and slammed it hard on a desk ;P |
| 20:52.41 | art3mis | and its abrely in warranty |
| 20:52.43 | art3mis | barely |
| 20:52.47 | art3mis | heh |
| 20:52.55 | Amadeo | ckknight: What's bigStep? |
| 20:52.58 | Matrix110 | lol |
| 20:52.59 | [dRaCo] | lol |
| 20:53.00 | Matrix110 | :P |
| 20:53.06 | *** mode/#wowace [+v Amadeo] by ckknight |
| 20:53.08 | *** mode/#wowace [-v Amadeo] by ckknight |
| 20:53.22 | Silviu- | ckknight the other Fubar plugins don`t need it ? |
| 20:53.22 | ckknight | mwahaha! |
| 20:53.23 | Amadeo | hahah |
| 20:53.23 | ckknight | Silviu-: I did a grep |
| 20:53.23 | Diao | o_o |
| 20:53.27 | Silviu- | Oky |
| 20:53.53 | Silviu- | And, did u look at the screen i posted earlier ? |
| 20:53.55 | Amadeo | So who make the best motherboards these days? :) |
| 20:54.01 | Kaelten | I'm trying to decide if cas is that important |
| 20:54.08 | Matrix110 | There isnt a BEST motherboard |
| 20:54.17 | Amadeo | There should be :( |
| 20:54.24 | Matrix110 | its more the support/features |
| 20:55.08 | Funkeh` | an addon can be forcably loaded even if you have it unticked in the addon menu? |
| 20:55.15 | art3mis | and personal taste ;P |
| 20:55.25 | art3mis | the best is one that has what you want and no crap you dont ;P |
| 20:55.31 | Thrae_ppc | Kaelten: DDR can go down to 1.5, where as DDR2 can go down to 2.5. The lower the better, but DDR2 also has higher bus bandwidth. |
| 20:55.52 | Kaelten | most of the ones I'm looking at are 5 |
| 20:55.55 | Amadeo | Is GeForce 8 Mobile in any laptops yet? |
| 20:55.57 | Kaelten | :s |
| 20:56.14 | Thrae_ppc | Kaelten: When picking your processor, make sure your FSB is damn high, as that is a severe bottleneck in many systems |
| 20:56.19 | Matrix110 | the 2.5 are UBER expensive:P |
| 20:56.30 | Thrae_ppc | Indeed they are |
| 20:56.40 | Matrix110 | 4 or 5 are totally ok |
| 20:56.42 | Kaelten | 1066 on the processor |
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| 20:58.11 | ckknight | Silviu-: fix coming |
| 20:58.11 | CIA-23 | 03ckknight * r35251 10PitBull/DruidMana/DruidMana.lua: PitBull_DruidMana - set currMana/maxMana/currInt to fake values originally |
| 20:58.46 | Silviu- | Thank u :) |
| 20:59.54 | Thrae_ppc | Kaelten: This might help you out -- ars-technica.com. I like their system building guides. |
| 21:00.20 | *** part/#wowace Amadeo (n=amadeo@c-68-50-168-95.hsd1.md.comcast.net) |
| 21:00.59 | Matrix110 | and really important is a good PSU |
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| 21:02.32 | ZealotOnAStick | The Ars guides are usually pretty good, but I don't always agree with some of their specific choices. |
| 21:05.23 | Matrix110 | i wonder how good the soundcards on the new Radeons are... |
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| 21:07.00 | Kaelten | ars seems to recommend slower memory but having a better cas rate |
| 21:09.21 | ZealotOnAStick | Kaelten, as I missed it earlier, what's the purpose of this system you're building? |
| 21:09.49 | Matrix110 | PC for his gaming wife |
| 21:10.34 | ZealotOnAStick | Then get the appropriate speed required DDR2 for the mobo/processor you're getting, that's good but not extravagant performance memory with nice CAS Latency. I'm fond of Corsair personally, but to each their own. |
| 21:11.37 | sylvanaar | my background downloader is going nuts |
| 21:12.15 | Matrix110 | just use a normal torrent client for it |
| 21:12.18 | Kaelten | well it can handle 533-800 |
| 21:12.20 | kergoth | hmm, i should read the violation sync code. reloaded my ui, and it didnt pick up the data from someone else in teh party running it |
| 21:12.26 | moonsorrow | i could give you a direct link if you want sylvanaar |
| 21:12.59 | vhaarr | kergoth: it doesn't sync |
| 21:13.03 | vhaarr | kergoth: that's the whole deal |
| 21:13.08 | vhaarr | kergoth: it just broadcasts |
| 21:13.19 | kergoth | well his hasnt sent me jack |
| 21:13.34 | vhaarr | kergoth: Basically, every 5 seconds, if your data is dirty, you broadcast your data changes since the last broadcast. |
| 21:13.39 | ZealotOnAStick | And what FSB speed does the CPU run off? If you can match those, it'll help. Main thing, though, is get a lot of memory. 2GB of slightly slower (and cheaper) memory will be better than 1 of uberfast memory for most gaming purposes. |
| 21:13.40 | vhaarr | tell me if that doesn't make sense |
| 21:13.56 | Chompers | how odd, i just saw a ghost buff bar for 'lionheart blade' |
| 21:14.02 | Chompers | maybe i imagined it :/ |
| 21:14.03 | Matrix110 | ZealotOnAStick he wants 2 or 4GB:P |
| 21:14.09 | ZealotOnAStick | Good. |
| 21:14.31 | ZealotOnAStick | Again, I missed a lot of things earlier that would probably be pertinent. |
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| 21:15.09 | sylvanaar | moonsorrow sorry i was tabbed out |
| 21:15.13 | kergoth | vhaarr: hmm, well, what does it do when i have damage done numbers before his broadcasts his? |
| 21:15.38 | ZealotOnAStick | Kaelten: get an nVidia card. Not an ATI. Otherwise, I told you so. |
| 21:15.53 | sylvanaar | moonsorrow oh, nah, its ok, i think its done actually thats why it freaked out |
| 21:16.03 | vhaarr | kergoth: your client does nothing |
| 21:16.29 | kergoth | wait, violation sends data and doesnt receive it? |
| 21:16.32 | kergoth | i don't get this |
| 21:16.51 | vhaarr | kergoth: well you will broadcast your data |
| 21:17.01 | vhaarr | kergoth: and you will parse combat events from him |
| 21:17.11 | vhaarr | kergoth: but then when you get data from him, it will overwrite any custom data you have |
| 21:17.12 | *** join/#wowace dodgizzla (n=ap@ath0.org) |
| 21:17.29 | ckknight | Kaelten: gonna agree with ZealotOnAStick |
| 21:17.30 | dodgizzla | vhaarr: Hiya, we're on Thaddius right now. I wanted to run a Transcriptor log |
| 21:17.36 | kergoth | well, we've had 5 fights since my reloadui, and i still have the reset numbers, only since the reload. |
| 21:17.37 | vhaarr | dodgizzla: alright, no need for that |
| 21:17.44 | vhaarr | kergoth: okay, bug then |
| 21:17.44 | kergoth | i didnt get the more correct data for the entire run, which he has |
| 21:17.44 | dodgizzla | vhaarr: Is there anything I can do to help you figure out what's wrong? :D |
| 21:17.47 | vhaarr | dodgizzla: sec |
| 21:17.51 | dodgizzla | k |
| 21:18.59 | vhaarr | dodgizzla: /print BigWigs:IsModuleActive("Thaddius Arrows") |
| 21:19.19 | dodgizzla | vhaarr: true |
| 21:19.19 | kergoth | vhaarr: so are his numbers considered more accurate than mine for the numbers referring to me? or vice versa? or just a matter of timing of the broadcasts? |
| 21:19.21 | vhaarr | kergoth: no, you won't get that |
| 21:19.33 | dodgizzla | vhaarr: I can also broadcast the strategy to the raid |
| 21:19.33 | vhaarr | kergoth: if you reload UI, you will just get data from that point forward |
| 21:19.45 | vhaarr | dodgizzla: okay |
| 21:20.35 | vhaarr | dodgizzla: /print BigWigs:GetModule("Thaddius Arrows"):IsEventRegistered("BigWigs_Message") |
| 21:20.57 | dodgizzla | vhaarr: Ah damn, I'm running an older version of BigWigs now, where the addon works |
| 21:21.06 | dodgizzla | Let me relog for the newer version |
| 21:21.08 | Kaelten | I always go with nvidia |
| 21:21.11 | dodgizzla | just thought of it, silly me :D |
| 21:21.14 | vhaarr | dodgizzla: ah, so it only breaks in newer bigwgigs? |
| 21:21.15 | vhaarr | -g |
| 21:21.28 | dodgizzla | yeah |
| 21:21.45 | dodgizzla | r21059 is working e.g. |
| 21:22.02 | dodgizzla | with r18832 thaddius arrows |
| 21:22.51 | Ominous | kergoth: u on test yet? |
| 21:22.51 | dodgizzla | Ok, updated to newest BigWigs via WAU |
| 21:23.44 | kergoth | vhaarr: ah, i see, i wasn't clear on exactly what each module is broadcasting |
| 21:23.52 | kergoth | vhaarr: makes sense |
| 21:24.24 | dodgizzla | vhaarr: Whoa, BugSack got an error |
| 21:24.44 | vhaarr | dodgizzla: give |
| 21:24.47 | dodgizzla | vhaarr: posted it on the forums, raid is bugging for another try :D |
| 21:24.49 | vhaarr | kergoth: cool |
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| 21:26.08 | vhaarr | aha |
| 21:26.31 | NightHawkTheSane | bleh, i need to learn ruby, or python, or something, php is starting to give me a headache |
| 21:27.08 | [dRaCo] | php is cool. typeless variables rock ;) |
| 21:27.17 | art3mis | learn german instead |
| 21:27.27 | NightHawkTheSane | sure, except when you can't find a competent rss parser to save your life. |
| 21:27.29 | art3mis | and then write all yer code in german ;P |
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| 21:28.08 | vhaarr | dodgizzla: are you sure you have the thaddius module? |
| 21:28.14 | vhaarr | dodgizzla: you need the BigWigs_Naxxramas addon |
| 21:28.19 | NightHawkTheSane | uh, fur($ich = 0; $ich <= ZHEN; $ich++) { ... } ? :P |
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| 21:28.55 | ckknight | NightHawkTheSane: wtf? |
| 21:29.03 | ckknight | lol. |
| 21:29.21 | NightHawkTheSane | what, it's coding in german, or.. you know.. really bad german at least. |
| 21:29.33 | dodgizzla | vhaarr: Ah damn... that is no longer included in the BigWigs, duh |
| 21:29.34 | ckknight | why would you have 10 as a constant? |
| 21:29.41 | dodgizzla | Forgot about that when I installed the old addon |
| 21:29.42 | ckknight | it's like having |
| 21:29.44 | art3mis | heh learn pig-german ;P |
| 21:29.51 | NightHawkTheSane | ckknight: because it's funnier that way in this example? |
| 21:29.53 | vhaarr | dodgizzla: right, try it again with that addon |
| 21:29.59 | hyperChipmunk | the `ich' as a loop controller is hilarious |
| 21:30.02 | ckknight | for (int i = ZERO; i < THREE_HUNDRED_SIXTY_FIVE; i++) {} |
| 21:30.04 | art3mis | chia inba inea erlinerba |
| 21:32.53 | dodgizzla | vhaarr: Yeah, if we wipe now I will :D |
| 21:35.20 | Stephmw | BM:1, Group:0 |
| 21:35.44 | CIA-23 | 03rabbit * r35252 10BigWigs_ThaddiusArrows/BigWigs_ThaddiusArrows.Lua: BigWigs_ThaddiusArrows: Warn the user if he doesn't have the Thaddius module. |
| 21:38.49 | CIA-23 | 03anea * r35253 10SpamSentry/SpamSentry.toc: SpamSentry: Updated toc-file to correctly use WhoLib as optional dependency |
| 21:40.30 | dodgizzla | vhaarr: Okay, got BigWigs_Naxxramas. Anything you want me to do? |
| 21:40.39 | vhaarr | dodgizzla: well it should work, then |
| 21:40.50 | hyperChipmunk | Elkano: my pet's buffbar doesn't go away when i dismiss him |
| 21:41.19 | hyperChipmunk | it's been that way forever; this is just the first time i actually remembered to ask when you've been online |
| 21:41.19 | Elkano | hmm... I never tested the pet stuff ^^' |
| 21:41.35 | Elkano | its 100% dry code |
| 21:41.39 | hyperChipmunk | then you're an idiot and I hope you get hit by a bus |
| 21:41.53 | dodgizzla | vhaarr: Yeah well it did not; I tried it today with newest version already and got no arrows. Then I downgraded |
| 21:42.14 | Elkano | well, it's beta anyways |
| 21:42.27 | hyperChipmunk | =) |
| 21:43.00 | vhaarr | dodgizzla: hrm |
| 21:44.13 | dodgizzla | As I already posted. No errors, no arrows :( The old version works though |
| 21:44.53 | vhaarr | gah |
| 21:46.52 | Hjalte | After updating Cartographer_Herbalism tonight to 35241 it's complaining that it needs Deformat-2.0 |
| 21:47.14 | ckknight | wonder if that's my bad. |
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| 21:48.07 | CIA-23 | 03ckknight * r35254 10Cartographer_Herbalism/addon.lua: Cartographer_Herbalism - remove unused Deformat access |
| 21:48.17 | ckknight | Hjalte: there you go |
| 21:48.27 | Hjalte | ckknight, thanks :) |
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| 21:51.16 | dodgizzla | vhaarr: Yeah well we've downed his adds, I got no arrows although I have the negative buff |
| 21:51.24 | dodgizzla | Anything I can do to debug this while the raid kills Thaddius? |
| 21:52.10 | Thorgard | Anyone know if the Alchemist's Stone is getting changed in the next patch? |
| 21:52.45 | vhaarr | dodgizzla: /print BigWigs:GetModule("Thaddius Arrows"):IsEventRegistered("BigWigs_Message") |
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| 21:53.06 | Matrix110 | Thorgard currently no change known afaik |
| 21:53.38 | dodgizzla | vhaarr: "true, BigWigs_Message" |
| 21:54.08 | dodgizzla | vhaarr: He'll die anytime now :\ |
| 21:54.12 | dodgizzla | Okay, he's dead :o |
| 21:54.51 | Thorgard | Matrix110, a'right. |
| 21:56.41 | vhaarr | dodgizzla: okay, thanks anyway |
| 21:58.16 | dodgizzla | vhaarr: Nevermind, but I'd like to get that fixed someday :D I still need 18 splinters :o |
| 21:58.33 | dodgizzla | And always switching between an ancient BigWigs version and a more recent one is kinda.. well it sucks :> |
| 21:58.38 | vhaarr | dodgizzla: indeed |
| 21:58.40 | Matrix110 | for what do you want Atiesh? |
| 21:58.40 | CIA-23 | 03trh * r35255 10VanasKoS/todo.txt: VanasKoS: added todo.txt |
| 21:58.41 | vhaarr | dodgizzla: server? |
| 21:58.46 | vhaarr | Matrix110: duh |
| 21:58.50 | vhaarr | faster pathing to karazhan? |
| 21:58.52 | vhaarr | :P |
| 21:58.59 | Matrix110 | really worth it lol |
| 21:59.08 | vodrin | its still ok in a all healer group ^^ |
| 21:59.18 | dodgizzla | vhaarr: Frostmourne EU |
| 21:59.38 | dodgizzla | Atiesh is better than the crap in BC.. at least pre 2.1.0 |
| 22:00.29 | dodgizzla | Yeah well Naxx is kinda fun at 70, so getting the staff is a plus :> |
| 22:00.56 | dodgizzla | Also Kel was not killed on our server; just last weeks a Horde PuG raid killed it and Alliance took him down 2 days later |
| 22:01.03 | Matrix110 | naxx cant be fun |
| 22:01.03 | dodgizzla | Our server sucks PvE-Progresswise |
| 22:01.05 | Matrix110 | ! |
| 22:01.07 | dodgizzla | it is :> |
| 22:01.25 | dodgizzla | funny to see how half your raid dies while failing to move at heigan :> |
| 22:01.34 | Matrix110 | but thaddius dmg must be kinda funny |
| 22:01.41 | Matrix110 | was it 300 or 400%? |
| 22:01.42 | dodgizzla | or how tanks can tank easily through faerlina enrage |
| 22:01.45 | Matrix110 | cant remember |
| 22:01.49 | Silviu- | i wish we had 40 players now in guild, a lot are quiting we hardly manage to get 25 togheter for an Gruul or Mag kill :/ |
| 22:01.52 | dodgizzla | dunno, my arrows never work so I stand aside :>>> |
| 22:01.57 | dodgizzla | Silviu-: Random raids :> |
| 22:02.02 | Silviu- | :) |
| 22:02.07 | dodgizzla | I host one every saturday and monday |
| 22:02.14 | Silviu- | Lol nice :) |
| 22:02.18 | Matrix110 | ah it was 200% more so 300% |
| 22:02.32 | Matrix110 | hmm nice dmg..... |
| 22:03.40 | dodgizzla | some fights are just silly at 70, some are still hard |
| 22:03.49 | dodgizzla | I find it more enjoyable than Kara :> |
| 22:03.52 | Matrix110 | how are horsemen at 70? |
| 22:04.43 | Matrix110 | and well Heigan is like 1 dance only or at 70? |
| 22:05.07 | dodgizzla | horsemen are probably easy for not-so-retarded people |
| 22:05.19 | dodgizzla | we're using 8 tanks and go up to 40+ marks :D |
| 22:05.38 | Matrix110 | Sapphiron is a joke at 70 |
| 22:05.41 | Matrix110 | i know of |
| 22:05.52 | dodgizzla | One Heigan we got him to ~50% before the first dance, then 80% of the raid died, then we needed 2 dances more :\ |
| 22:06.05 | art3mis | are any of you in new york city? |
| 22:06.08 | dodgizzla | ah well, the frost aura still hurts, we got evreybody to get ~150 resi |
| 22:07.16 | Silviu- | I sold all my resi equip :P |
| 22:07.32 | Matrix110 | i still got my NR gear! |
| 22:07.41 | Matrix110 | 420NR as a mage^^ |
| 22:07.46 | ulic | wow |
| 22:07.58 | Matrix110 | was kinda handy at tanking AQ20 boss |
| 22:08.05 | Silviu- | LOL |
| 22:08.07 | dodgizzla | hehe |
| 22:08.07 | Matrix110 | i got no dmg atall |
| 22:08.21 | Matrix110 | but i needed innervate to keep aggro |
| 22:08.25 | Matrix110 | i had 3k mana orso^^ |
| 22:09.24 | ckknight | hey Industrial, I finally added a thing to AceOptions to have a separation between a large and small step for ranges |
| 22:10.09 | Industrial | :o what does this mean, effectively :D? |
| 22:11.41 | ckknight | Industrial: though when you drag the slider it goes 70-75-80, if you use the mousewheel, it goes 70-71-72. Also, you can put in a value into the text box that's essentially arbitrary |
| 22:12.20 | Industrial | pwnage. |
| 22:12.27 | Industrial | thats really nice. |
| 22:12.34 | ckknight | yep |
| 22:13.15 | ckknight | just need to convince Nargiddley to make Waterfall use it |
| 22:13.29 | ckknight | ooh, gold |
| 22:13.37 | Fin | precious |
| 22:13.55 | Stephmw | BM:2, Group:0 |
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| 22:14.29 | Gardan | so when is pastamancer usually available |
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| 22:19.09 | CIA-23 | 03rabbit * r35256 10BigWigs_ThaddiusArrows/BigWigs_ThaddiusArrows.toc: BigWigs_ThaddiusArrows: Depend on BigWigs_Naxxramas. |
| 22:20.59 | Aenslaed | eh, still working on naxx boss mods? o_0 |
| 22:21.33 | art3mis | what was the name of that site that you could put in yer location and it would show you all the places that people from yer server were? |
| 22:21.45 | art3mis | mappr? |
| 22:23.05 | CIA-23 | 03trh * r35257 10VanasKoS/ (7 files in 2 dirs): VanasKoS: updated and fixed frFR and deDE localization |
| 22:24.49 | dodgizzla | vhaarr: The dependancy was not the problem :D I'll see if I can run a diff on the old version, though I doubt it'll do any good because so much has changed :D |
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| 22:26.25 | vhaarr | okay |
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| 22:27.54 | Kaelten | hrm the mother board is 1.8v on the memory the memory I'm looking at is 2v thatsgoing to be an issue isn't it? |
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| 22:33.27 | trh | hidiho |
| 22:33.42 | ckknight | hey trh |
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| 22:34.06 | [FH]Birdemani | anyone else getting about 4 errors from spamsentry upon loadup? |
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| 22:34.43 | trh | [FH]Birdemani: it'd probably help if you could c&p the first error ;) |
| 22:34.55 | [FH]Birdemani | yea i know was working on that |
| 22:35.02 | [FH]Birdemani | cleared it and rebooting to generate |
| 22:36.50 | *** join/#wowace Boubouille (n=bibi@AVelizy-151-1-57-238.w82-120.abo.wanadoo.fr) |
| 22:38.05 | [FH]Birdemani | 1)aceoo2.0 "wholib1.0" doesnt exist in core line 13 2) attempt to index global ss in lod.lua line 17 3) attempt to index global ss in options.lua in line 333 4) attempt to index global ss in compatibility.lua in line 9 |
| 22:38.17 | [FH]Birdemani | and I am using the externals options and standalonelibs |
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| 22:38.53 | [FH]Birdemani | typo: i am using the update without externals |
| 22:40.42 | Kaelten | hrm no input on that |
| 22:40.47 | Gnarfoz | Kaelten: should be adjustable board-side, 1.8v is just the default voltage. have a look at the specs, it should say the range it supports |
| 22:41.29 | Kaelten | hrm |
| 22:43.10 | Cryect | If I schedule a repeating event with delay of 0 in AceEvents will it be called every frame? |
| 22:43.45 | Stephmw | BM:3, Group:0 |
| 22:43.58 | Stephmw | I'm thinking my group is short on dps |
| 22:44.39 | Stephmw | any special hints, stuff like the beacons and stuff? |
| 22:44.55 | [dRaCo] | more dps! |
| 22:44.59 | [dRaCo] | scnr |
| 22:45.04 | NightHawkTheSane | black morass? dps lots. if you're using your beacons on anything other than bosses, you need more dps. |
| 22:45.16 | ckknight | yes, Cryect |
| 22:45.33 | CIA-23 | 03ominous * r35258 10ClassTimer/ (ClassTimer.toc RuleSet.lua): ClassTimer: menu improvements |
| 22:45.57 | Stephmw | NightHawkTheSane: aye, just on bosses, but they really don't last long :( |
| 22:46.10 | Cryect | ckknight: thanks! |
| 22:46.34 | NightHawkTheSane | For the first two bosses, tank the boss -away- from medivh, and use the beacon -at- medivh, not at the boss. |
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| 22:46.49 | NightHawkTheSane | Bosses will dispel the dragon quickly |
| 22:47.26 | [FH]Birdemani | use beacons on the tank at the last few portals, then just kill aeonus |
| 22:47.34 | [FH]Birdemani | beacons dont work on bosses at all anymore |
| 22:47.46 | trh | omg... yet another addon site: "giefmods.com" |
| 22:47.49 | NightHawkTheSane | Stephmw: are you guys having trouble at the same point each time, or? |
| 22:48.01 | [FH]Birdemani | after final portal when boss starts, let him attack medivh for a bit and drink/food up |
| 22:48.09 | [FH]Birdemani | that shield lasts forever |
| 22:49.30 | CIA-23 | 03kagaro * r35259 10SharedMedia/SharedMedia.lua: SharedMedia: Added border and background types with a few Blizzard provides entries |
| 22:49.50 | *** join/#wowace Sole___ (n=chatzill@203.109.211.96) |
| 22:49.53 | QQngsk | nice addition! |
| 22:49.55 | ckknight | trh: lame. |
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| 22:50.12 | trh | ckknight: yeah.. thought that too.. additionally bugged as hell |
| 22:50.21 | ckknight | trh: and has my mods up there. |
| 22:50.26 | Sole | ClassTimer - the replacement to chronometer come 2.1? |
| 22:50.55 | trh | ckknight: ya.. i don't care about that, as long as it's stated that it may not be the current version and got a link to the original site |
| 22:51.05 | hyperChipmunk | actually, that's the second-best mod site i've ever seen, behind files.wowace.com |
| 22:51.21 | *** join/#wowace dotted (n=me@0x555157c7.adsl.cybercity.dk) |
| 22:51.22 | ckknight | I do like the simplicity |
| 22:51.53 | trh | but it misses features to show in which languages the mod is localized/compatible |
| 22:52.00 | trh | different texts for different languages |
| 22:52.26 | Sole | ooh ooh what site? |
| 22:52.31 | Sole | I got dc so I missed the link |
| 22:52.37 | Thorgard | giefmods.com |
| 22:52.47 | ckknight | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:52.50 | hyperChipmunk | nobody cares about other languages |
| 22:52.55 | Kaelten | any recommendation for a good case? |
| 22:52.57 | trh | but i think it's good that worldofwar and curse-gaming get some competition |
| 22:53.01 | trh | they surely need it |
| 22:53.14 | Amadeo | Pretty strange, Ubuntu 7.04 won't install on my system |
| 22:53.19 | hyperChipmunk | what are you? some sort of arab? english is fine, l2r |
| 22:53.21 | Ominous_ | Sole: yea but i dont know if it works atm, need someone with ptr to test as mine isnt working |
| 22:53.21 | ckknight | Kaelten: laptop case? |
| 22:53.22 | Thorgard | Amadeo, how come? |
| 22:53.33 | Kaelten | ckknight: desktop computer case |
| 22:53.33 | Amadeo | Thorgard: Dunno, hangs on loading and gives me a device i/o error |
| 22:53.39 | ckknight | Kaelten: oh |
| 22:53.41 | trh | hyperChipmunk: for european mod writers there are at least 3 other languages that are interesting |
| 22:53.42 | Sole | Ominous_: k, I gotta go out for a bit now but I'll def play around with it |
| 22:53.42 | CIA-23 | 03kagaro * r35260 10SharedMediaLib/SharedMedia-1.0/SharedMedia-1.0.lua: SharedMediaLib: added background and border types |
| 22:53.47 | Stephmw | NightHawkTheSane: all over tbh... we kind of scrape along until Aeonus |
| 22:53.54 | trh | hyperChipmunk: at least for "compatibility" |
| 22:53.55 | ckknight | Kaelten: meh, I really don't know |
| 22:53.57 | Thorgard | Amadeo, if it makes you feel any better. It won't install on my system either. Gives me a corrupt screen. |
| 22:54.05 | Ominous_ | Sole: i could do with some tips about which parts of the menu need to be global and which need to be per group |
| 22:54.09 | Sole | Ominous_: I was actually gonna write one myself :) |
| 22:54.10 | Amadeo | Thorgard: The funny thing is, the pre-release version installs fine |
| 22:54.10 | Thorgard | Kaelten, Antec anything. ;P |
| 22:54.18 | Ominous_ | so if you ping me or pm me on wowace |
| 22:54.22 | NightHawkTheSane | Stephmw: sounds like you just need either more dps on the rift lords, or more dps on the adds, or both. *shrug* what's the party makeup? |
| 22:54.26 | Sole | will do |
| 22:54.33 | Thorgard | Kaelten, or Chieftec (same thing) if you're in the EU. |
| 22:54.39 | Sole | I'll see which data you're missing also |
| 22:54.41 | NightHawkTheSane | hyperChipmunk: http://xkcd.com/c84.html :) |
| 22:54.43 | hyperChipmunk | lol top 3 addon downloads are that metamap-wannabe, atlas, and titanpanel |
| 22:54.48 | Sole | might have to pull out my old Hostel files to see what I had in there |
| 22:55.04 | Ominous | wooot my test works now, just need to download patches now |
| 22:55.08 | Sole | WTF |
| 22:55.11 | Sole | Antagonist is on GiefMods |
| 22:55.14 | Sole | I didnt upload that shit |
| 22:55.21 | hyperChipmunk | oh, i don't claim english as the language of the land |
| 22:55.29 | hyperChipmunk | it's the language of civilization |
| 22:55.37 | Ominous | ckknightLfont = { |
| 22:55.38 | Ominous | type = 'text', |
| 22:55.38 | Ominous | name = L['Font'], |
| 22:55.38 | Ominous | desc = L['Set the font used in the bars'], |
| 22:55.38 | Ominous | validate = sm:List('font'), |
| 22:55.38 | Ominous | get = get, |
| 22:55.40 | Ominous | set = set, |
| 22:55.42 | Ominous | passValue = {'font'}, |
| 22:55.44 | Ominous | order = 9, |
| 22:55.45 | [dRaCo] | spam |
| 22:55.46 | Ominous | }, |
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| 22:55.48 | Ominous | oops |
| 22:55.50 | Ominous | damn dark keys in dark room |
| 22:55.52 | *** kick/#wowace [Ominous!n=staharaj@d14-69-214-77.try.wideopenwest.com] by hyperChipmunk (Excess flood.) |
| 22:55.59 | QQngsk | hah |
| 22:56.02 | ckknight | lol. |
| 22:56.04 | *** join/#wowace Ominous (n=Ominous@84-51-151-23.jamesk522.adsl.metronet.co.uk) |
| 22:56.13 | ckknight | hyperChipmunk: that was unnecessary |
| 22:56.15 | ckknight | he said oops |
| 22:56.16 | Ominous | that was abit unfair wasent it HC, it was an accident |
| 22:56.39 | hyperChipmunk | yea, darn dark keys, clearly i meant to hit backspace |
| 22:56.40 | ckknight | Sole: I'm sending an email to the guy now |
| 22:56.59 | Sole | ckknight: its cool |
| 22:56.59 | Sole | ckknight: just a bit surprised |
| 22:57.04 | ckknight | meh, I'm not going to threaten legal action |
| 22:57.04 | Stephmw | NightHawkTheSane: War, Dru, Sha, Mag and Rog |
| 22:57.09 | ckknight | just tell him that it might be bad |
| 22:57.13 | ckknight | frankly, I stopped caring |
| 22:57.26 | Sole | haha you dont care so long as you get your paypal donations :P |
| 22:57.39 | Ominous | hyperchipmunk: im in a pitch black room iwth just my screen lighting my keyboard so heh, |
| 22:57.46 | NightHawkTheSane | Stephmw: hmm, not a bad group composition, so i don't know what to say :\ |
| 22:57.48 | Kaelten | 400W SmartPower2.0 ATX12V v2.0 is a pretty good one if I remember right |
| 22:58.01 | Stephmw | NightHawkTheSane: I guess we just need to coordinate better |
| 22:58.10 | hyperChipmunk | Ominous: a wild boar stabbed out both of my eyes |
| 22:58.13 | trh | ckknight gets paypal donations? =) |
| 22:58.18 | ckknight | sure do |
| 22:58.24 | ckknight | how else would I pay for WoW? |
| 22:58.24 | Ominous | ckknight: are they new fields bigStep and step? |
| 22:58.24 | trh | nice... ;) |
| 22:58.26 | ulic | Do the Cilo & Otravi status bars look the same or is it just my imagination? |
| 22:58.33 | ckknight | Ominous: step's always been there. |
| 22:58.38 | ckknight | Ominous: bigStep was added today |
| 22:58.53 | *** join/#wowace Sole___ (n=chatzill@203.109.211.96) |
| 22:58.57 | trh | i put up my paypal address at ui.worldofwar.net, but there were no donations yet... but i don't really care ;) |
| 22:59.03 | ckknight | trh: I pay for WoW and WoW-related things strictly on my users' donations. If they stopped donating, I'd stop playing/developing |
| 22:59.15 | Galka | What is bigStep? |
| 22:59.22 | NightHawkTheSane | Stephmw: likely, yeah. uh, make sure that your tank and healer are getting to the next portal as soon as the rift lord is down, you should have one person able to handle all the adds, probably the mage or druid, with maybe one other helping out occasionally. |
| 22:59.43 | *** join/#wowace kagaro (n=kagaro@cpe-075-177-134-139.nc.res.rr.com) |
| 22:59.51 | kagaro | evening |
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| 23:00.35 | trh | ckknight: hehe, so i guess it's not hundreds of dollars a month ;) |
| 23:01.10 | Sole___ | ok GiefMods is dumb |
| 23:01.13 | Funkeh` | whats the trick people do to get a new line on 1 chat line |
| 23:01.21 | NightHawkTheSane | Stephmw: also make sure the warrior knows (assuming he's tanking) that he can spell reflect almost all the rift lord spells, including shadow bolt volley |
| 23:01.24 | ckknight | trh: oh no, about $30 every two months |
| 23:01.26 | Thorgard | Funkeh`, keep hitting space for half an hour |
| 23:01.28 | Sole___ | I registered just to claim ownership of my own addon. click on the link to claim it and I get sent to the home page |
| 23:01.34 | *** part/#wowace Amadeo (n=amadeo@c-68-50-168-95.hsd1.md.comcast.net) |
| 23:01.34 | vhaarr | onyxia down, zomg |
| 23:01.43 | Sole___ | Funkeh`: \n I thinks |
| 23:01.48 | Sole___ | zomg |
| 23:01.48 | Thorgard | Sole___, it's beta. ;P Might not have that feature complete yet. |
| 23:02.00 | trh | ckknight: better than nothing... :) |
| 23:02.15 | Sole___ | lol I love some users "WTB compatible with 2.0.12" - turn off version check dumbass -_- |
| 23:02.32 | kagaro | did anyone have a problem with me adding 'border' and 'background' types to shared media? |
| 23:02.48 | ckknight | trh: it pays for WoW |
| 23:02.49 | Thorgard | Funkeh`, "Hi <forty-fifty spaces> Funkeh` says: cen i haef 2g plz" |
| 23:02.54 | ckknight | trh: that's about it, though |
| 23:02.55 | Sole___ | I have a problem with it kagaro |
| 23:03.04 | Funkeh` | Thorgard: can you stfu please |
| 23:03.19 | kagaro | Sole___ what the issue you see? |
| 23:03.22 | ckknight | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:03.24 | Thorgard | Funkeh`, hey, you asked. |
| 23:03.36 | Sole___ | I'll think of one later, I just decided to have a problem with it when you asked if anyone has a problem with it |
| 23:03.41 | trh | ckknight: ya... wish they'd open a addon site where some on of advertising income would get distributed amongst the authors =) |
| 23:03.46 | CIA-23 | 03ominous * r35261 10ClassTimer/RuleSet.lua: ClassTimer: use bigStep |
| 23:03.47 | hyperChipmunk | ckknight: i just scanned my screen for a red dot by reflex =\ |
| 23:03.47 | kagaro | rofl |
| 23:03.59 | ckknight | lol, hyperChipmunk |
| 23:04.15 | hyperChipmunk | i'm going to go cry now |
| 23:05.03 | Sole___ | Ominous: would you be interested in a co-joint NECB replacement? |
| 23:05.20 | NightHawkTheSane | isn't co-joint redundant? |
| 23:05.21 | Ominous | hmm |
| 23:05.26 | Sole___ | Ominous: my coding knowledge has improved since Antagonist and I hella dont like that code anymore, so Im rewriting it |
| 23:05.29 | hyperChipmunk | trh: that would reward the authors of all those crappy mods that everyone uses |
| 23:05.34 | Sole___ | would make sense to merge our addons |
| 23:05.40 | trh | hehe.. we should create a "AdLib" for next aprils fool which will be dependency for all ace2 mods and display some random adds while playing to finance wowace =) |
| 23:05.47 | ckknight | lol, trh |
| 23:05.50 | ckknight | that'd be funny |
| 23:05.52 | trh | ads though |
| 23:05.53 | Sole___ | lol |
| 23:05.53 | trh | not adds ;) |
| 23:05.55 | ckknight | but a long ways away |
| 23:05.57 | Sole___ | you know, I almost believed Ace3 |
| 23:06.17 | Sole___ | I was all HOLY ZOMGAWDS THIS R REVOLUTION! |
| 23:06.23 | ckknight | lol. |
| 23:06.24 | Sole___ | then I remembered the date |
| 23:06.25 | Ominous | ~whaleslap Sole__ |
| 23:06.31 | purl | ACTION beats Sole__ upside and over the head with a freakishly huge killer whale named Hugh |
| 23:06.34 | ckknight | Sole___: fix your name |
| 23:06.43 | hyperChipmunk | yea, i'm about to beat your face in |
| 23:06.43 | Sole___ | already in use |
| 23:06.50 | ckknight | ghost! |
| 23:06.54 | Sole___ | boot Sole |
| 23:07.04 | ckknight | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:07.06 | Ominous | its server not channel so they cant do it |
| 23:07.14 | Fin | on a motherboard, what do the different voltages affect? I've got "CPU VCore", "+3.3V", "+5V", and "+12V" |
| 23:07.17 | Ominous | if you have registerd it |
| 23:07.17 | Sole___ | I dunno what password I set :( |
| 23:07.20 | hyperChipmunk | you can't boot someone off of a server |
| 23:07.22 | Ominous | rofl |
| 23:07.24 | *** join/#wowace zoktar (i=zoktar@c83-249-20-98.bredband.comhem.se) |
| 23:07.29 | hyperChipmunk | same one you use to register |
| 23:07.34 | Sole___ | I know |
| 23:07.40 | Sole___ | but I dont remember it |
| 23:07.42 | zoktar | anyone got link to patch mirror ? |
| 23:07.42 | Fin | this monitoring thingy I've got is saying that the +12V one is actually at 15.21V - is that bad? |
| 23:08.00 | CIA-23 | 03cryect * r35262 10GPSLib/ (. GPS-1.0/ GPS-1.0/GPS-1.0.lua GPSLib.toc): |
| 23:08.00 | CIA-23 | GPSLib: Initial Commit |
| 23:08.00 | CIA-23 | - A library for getting real world coordinates both in dungeons/outside |
| 23:08.00 | CIA-23 | -Warning initial version lacks calibration/validation code at the moment (means everything is fine till you login ping the map then logout and back in again without closing) |
| 23:08.00 | CIA-23 | -Coordinates returned at the moment have a different scalar than game file map coordinates but share the same origin |
| 23:08.01 | Thorgard | Fin, that might be a bit bad, yeah. |
| 23:08.07 | Gagorian | Fin: The monitoring thing might be wrong though |
| 23:08.09 | trh | Fin: not really.. usually the sensors suck |
| 23:08.24 | Fin | would the motherboard be wrong? if I go into the BIOS, can I tell? |
| 23:08.39 | Gagorian | But technically your HD, dvd etc wouldn't like a higher than specified voltage |
| 23:08.40 | Fin | my machine's been rebooting at random times (mostly when playing WoW) and I can't find anything in any logs anywhere that'll tell me why |
| 23:08.42 | Nargiddley | i'd expect 15v on the 12 to be causing noticable problems |
| 23:08.53 | *** join/#wowace Sole_ (n=chatzill@203.109.211.96) |
| 23:09.08 | trh | Fin: got some tools to really measure the 12v line? |
| 23:09.12 | Cryect | if you have 15V on your 12V line I doubt you would boot up >_> |
| 23:09.13 | sbu | eh, eral world coords in dungeons? |
| 23:09.14 | sbu | wtf? |
| 23:09.18 | Thorgard | 15v on the 12v rail isn't good for business. |
| 23:09.20 | Fin | I don't think it's overheating, I've been watching the temperatures of stuff, and I haven't seen anything get significantly hotter while playing... I'm a bit worried, I don't know what it is :( |
| 23:09.36 | trh | Fin: tried running memtest86+ for a few hours? |
| 23:09.44 | Fin | trh: not here, but I can get some easily - is that the only way I can tell for sure? |
| 23:10.06 | trh | Fin: well.. it rules out memory/other essential hardware problems |
| 23:10.07 | Ominous | Sole: tbh i would disagree with joining as the only advantade would be to share the Applying frame settings function and the {__index = function(...)... end} part of the metatable of the frames |
| 23:10.21 | trh | Fin: if it still crashes your best shot is power supply not giving enough power for video card |
| 23:10.26 | trh | Fin: or video card itself is broken |
| 23:10.41 | Ominous | sole: and personally i would prefer to be able to choose if i had ecbs or not, but im open for pursution |
| 23:10.42 | trh | Fin: or some driver problem |
| 23:11.00 | Sole_ | Ominous: modules? |
| 23:11.02 | Fin | trh: that's what I was thinking actually (not enough power), but it looks like the PSU is doing OK... haven't really been looking at it too hard though while playing |
| 23:11.10 | Cryect | sbu: Heh, its a method I developed like 7 months ago that gives you coordinates inside of dungeons plus some other benefits |
| 23:11.25 | Fin | trh: hehe, yeah, this is all the stuff I was thinking about... |
| 23:11.32 | Ominous | what extra stuff would it create again? |
| 23:11.48 | Nargiddley | Fin, in control panel, system, startup and recovery |
| 23:11.50 | Sole_ | Ominous: using 1 addon instead of 2? :P |
| 23:11.50 | Fin | I used to know about all this shit years ago when I was doing support |
| 23:12.17 | Ominous | Sole: i mean like what does necb have again |
| 23:12.17 | Cryect | I like being able to have coordinates inside of instances |
| 23:12.17 | Nargiddley | you can turn automatically reboot off, see if the blue screen gives you a driver name thats crashing |
| 23:12.31 | Ominous | i may dc in a sec... |
| 23:12.58 | *** mode/#wowace [+o Tekkub] by ChanServ |
| 23:13.04 | Sole_ | Ominous: apart from code that scares me when I look at it, it essentially tracks diminishing returns, all debuff durations, tracks debuffs on target not cast by you, enemy casts/buffs/cooldowns, boss timers (big fucking NO here) and some other crap |
| 23:13.05 | Fin | Nargiddley: I've got it to dump kernel memory dump file and to *not* automatically restart on system failure, and to write to the syslog - but none of it makes any difference |
| 23:13.19 | Fin | it's the hardware doing an instant shutdown for some reason |
| 23:13.21 | zoktar | wtb torrent link for new patch |
| 23:13.36 | Fin | not even a reboot, I have to power cycle it to start up again |
| 23:13.58 | CIA-23 | 03kagaro * r35263 10SharedMedia/SharedMedia.lua: SharedMedia: added dialog border |
| 23:14.01 | Fin | Nargiddley: thanks for the pointer though |
| 23:14.11 | rubik | zoktar: http://12.129.232.127/background/WoW-2.0.12.6546-x86-Win-enUS-BKGND.torrent |
| 23:14.30 | Ominous | Sole: im sorry i will have to say know as the whole point of my ClassTimer was for it to be as small and efficient as possible and adding all that will make it alot bigger and i personally think it would be better in two addons, |
| 23:14.34 | Nargiddley | Fin, my best guess is overheating |
| 23:14.40 | Ominous | what does everyone else think ^^ |
| 23:15.03 | CIA-23 | 03kagaro * r35264 10SharedMediaLib/SharedMedia-1.0/SharedMedia-1.0.lua: SharedMediaLib: added border default of none |
| 23:15.18 | Sole_ | Ominous: thats cool, I'll just write my own implementation as I require those functionalities in arena pvp and refuse to use NECB |
| 23:15.37 | Fin | Nargiddley: that was my first thought also, and I've got some fan / temperature monitors that I've been checking (SysTool which monitors all the temperature values I can find and logs them all - there's no crazy temperatures logged before the reboot :() |
| 23:15.52 | Sole_ | Fin: pour some cold water over your comp |
| 23:15.58 | Sole_ | Fin: water cooling always helps |
| 23:16.04 | Thorgard | Submerge it in mineral oil. |
| 23:16.13 | Nargiddley | Fin, does one of the temps monitor the vid card ? |
| 23:16.15 | Chompers | remove the fans, they stop the heat from escaping |
| 23:16.27 | Fin | Nargiddley: yes |
| 23:16.30 | Chompers | or remove the internet, all those tubes are clogging up the airflow |
| 23:16.36 | Fin | GPU and GPU environment |
| 23:16.39 | Ominous | Sole: ill look forward to seeing what you come up with, but if you leave tracking own debuffs / buffs i may change my mind later on |
| 23:16.47 | Ominous | fin: y cant u |
| 23:17.01 | Fin | Ominous: does it work pre-patch yet? |
| 23:17.14 | Ominous | no |
| 23:17.19 | Ominous | it cant |
| 23:17.41 | Fin | sorry, I just sort of meant, I wish it was Wednesday so I could try ClassTimer finally :) |
| 23:17.41 | Kilroo | Classtimers? |
| 23:17.57 | Sole_ | Ominous: leave tracking own debuffs / buffs? as in I dont do it? :P |
| 23:17.57 | Ominous | yea |
| 23:18.06 | Ominous | or until you have done the rest |
| 23:18.13 | Sole_ | I'll leave that til last |
| 23:18.14 | Kilroo | I just realized I won't get to try Classtimers. |
| 23:18.22 | Ominous | kilroo: how come? |
| 23:18.23 | Sole_ | Im gonna go for a modular approach I think |
| 23:18.43 | Ominous | sole: well ill eagerly await what its like and may well change my mind |
| 23:18.44 | Kilroo | I think my ten days will run out that day. I might get to try it for like a couple hours. |
| 23:18.56 | Ominous | arnt you renewing ur sub? |
| 23:19.05 | Sole_ | hang on a sec, if I have seperate modules will I have to register seperate events for every one? |
| 23:19.11 | Kilroo | Heck no, I'm still broke |
| 23:19.30 | Fin | so... just want to check one last time if anyone can give me any info: my "+12V" motherboard voltage line thingy shows up as 15.21 in SysTool - assuming the sensor is right, is that bad? |
| 23:19.30 | Kilroo | I just decided I'd use my 10-day BC trial so I could try out the latest Ace mods and such |
| 23:20.23 | Fin | waste not, want not |
| 23:20.44 | Sole_ | my +12V is reading 12.20V omigawd |
| 23:21.12 | Cryect | heh should be fine |
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| 23:21.42 | Cryect | should mean 12 volt higher potential relative to ground |
| 23:22.04 | Cryect | +/-5% in theory should work fine |
| 23:22.17 | Fin | I'm finding I start off at Wikipedia more often these days rather than Google... weird |
| 23:22.29 | Fin | Cryect: so 15V isn't good, that's sort of what I thought |
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| 23:22.42 | Fin | btw, thanks everyone for your advice and help |
| 23:22.42 | Cryect | heh yeah |
| 23:23.13 | Sole_ | Fin: you should still pour your comp with cold water |
| 23:23.17 | Sole_ | Fin: it works, srsly |
| 23:24.36 | Fin | I've got a sneaking suspicion the shop set the BIOS up as if I were going to be overclocking it lots, and I'm not... or something |
| 23:24.36 | Fin | Sole_: OK, just lik *+& U&*()%! |
| 23:24.36 | Sole_ | ^ yes |
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| 23:25.45 | Fin | Sole___: should I just wait for it to dry out now? |
| 23:25.45 | Fin | :P |
| 23:25.45 | ckknight | Quartz-0.1\Quartz.lua:567: attempt to perform arithmetic on local 'startTime' (a nil value) |
| 23:26.00 | Kaelten | the geforce 7900 is one of the better ones right? |
| 23:26.21 | Fin | what's your budget? |
| 23:26.40 | Kaelten | 200 give or take |
| 23:26.53 | Kaelten | the 8800s seem to be 350 or more |
| 23:27.24 | Fin | the 7900 is pretty good though from what I read |
| 23:28.09 | Diao | don't get a 7900 unless you plan to buy a new fan |
| 23:28.19 | Diao | stock fans don't keep it cool enough and they start artifacting |
| 23:28.49 | Fin | the 8800 comes with a huge fan that takes up another slot on the MB |
| 23:29.47 | Fin | that sort of freaked me out when I had to get one almost as big for the ATI X800XT |
| 23:30.19 | Kaelten | diao I go with bfg tech for graphics, lifetime warrenty |
| 23:30.23 | Fin | the 8800's one is all integrated and stuff though, with a curved metal hood spray painted black |
| 23:30.29 | Fin | it looks mean |
| 23:31.00 | Fin | I think it would win in a punch up with the ATI |
| 23:31.05 | Diao | lol |
| 23:31.23 | Diao | the thing is |
| 23:31.39 | Diao | you'll be RMAing it once a year or more if you don't replace the stock fan :x |
| 23:31.55 | Ominous | what build is the test realm on atm |
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| 23:32.10 | Diao | I've RMAed 2 7900s already from 2 different companies and finally i just replaced the stock fan and it works |
| 23:32.22 | Kaelten | diao they don't use the stock nvida fan anyway |
| 23:32.58 | Fin | hope I can fix this, fucking annoying having such an expensive new toy randomly break on me :( |
| 23:33.37 | Kaelten | I'm wondering which is better a second graphics card or 2gb more ram |
| 23:34.17 | Ominous | i wld say the ram if you get a good 1st gfx |
| 23:34.37 | Kaelten | 256mb 7900 |
| 23:34.47 | ckknight | ATI or nVidia? |
| 23:34.57 | Diao | 7900 is nvidia |
| 23:35.14 | ckknight | I'd go with more ram. |
| 23:35.38 | kebinusan | hmm, is bigStep just an inverted liteStep texture? |
| 23:35.50 | Fin | I'd go with the faster graphics card |
| 23:35.56 | kebinusan | noticing commit messages |
| 23:35.59 | Fin | cheaper and easier to upgrade the ram later on |
| 23:35.59 | trh | Kaelten: using vista or xp? |
| 23:36.13 | Fin | and you won't end up with a useless graphics card |
| 23:36.16 | Kaelten | probably p |
| 23:36.30 | Kaelten | xp |
| 23:36.36 | Kemayo | vhaarr: Is Mendeleev's "used in" thing broken at the moment? |
| 23:36.50 | trh | Kaelten: you got 2gb already, or? |
| 23:37.07 | Kaelten | ya I'm deciding between 2 or 4 |
| 23:37.16 | trh | Kaelten: take the graphics card |
| 23:37.24 | Sole_ | take the gfx |
| 23:37.25 | Kaelten | there isn't any major graphics card features missing from the 7900 gs is there? |
| 23:37.27 | trh | Kaelten: 2gb is enough unless you dtp alot |
| 23:37.35 | Kaelten | dtp? |
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| 23:37.43 | Sole_ | Ive got 2gb and I dont think Ive ever used all 2gb at once |
| 23:37.43 | Gnarfoz | desktop publishing |
| 23:37.56 | trh | ya.. desktop publishing |
| 23:37.57 | Gnarfoz | i.e. big, BIG photoshop or layout stuff |
| 23:38.11 | trh | alot of photoshop and stuff |
| 23:38.21 | trh | esp. with high resolutions and dpi |
| 23:38.22 | Fin | is the 7900 "DirectX 10 ready"? |
| 23:38.32 | Funkeh` | ~seen nymbia |
| 23:39.14 | purl | nymbia <n=nymbia@71-218-137-239.hlrn.qwest.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 12h 21m 56s ago, saying: 'haha'. |
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| 23:39.16 | Kaelten | doesn't say here |
| 23:39.24 | Kemayo | vhaarr: Oh, wait, there it goes, I just had to reopen tailoring four or five times! |
| 23:39.34 | trh | the 7900 is dx9 |
| 23:39.34 | Chompers | i just found out i can assign sound files to events in MSBT :o |
| 23:39.39 | Chompers | awesome! |
| 23:39.48 | trh | the 8800 series is the one with dx10 |
| 23:39.59 | Fin | that's what I thought |
| 23:40.12 | Fin | I think it's the only graphics card available that is atm |
| 23:40.16 | Sole_ | I knew I shoulda upgraded to 8800 instead of 7950gt :( |
| 23:40.19 | trh | ati has one too i think |
| 23:40.20 | Fin | s/card/card series/ |
| 23:40.25 | trh | but ati sucks ;) |
| 23:40.39 | Gnarfoz | ati is <3 |
| 23:40.47 | ckknight | ati </3 |
| 23:40.57 | Xuerian | ~xuerian |
| 23:41.06 | purl | ACTION lets out a Scrat-like scream and stabs something at random. |
| 23:41.06 | trh | Gnarfoz: try using ati with linux.... you will curse them |
| 23:41.06 | Chompers | i loved my 9700pro |
| 23:41.07 | Chompers | best card i have ever had |
| 23:41.10 | Gnarfoz | why would I want to use linux, at all! :p |
| 23:41.15 | kebinusan | ATI might have gotten better but I remember them forever as the company with the shittiest drivers in existence |
| 23:41.30 | ven | my 9800pro makes my cry atm :o |
| 23:41.33 | hyperChipmunk | ati in linux is /mourn |
| 23:41.39 | Xuerian | kebinusan has the point, ATI has nice hardware but it's totally wasted when trying to do anything with their drivers |
| 23:41.51 | Chompers | they really tried after the 9700 to make good drivers |
| 23:41.53 | Gnarfoz | windows drivers are ok :) |
| 23:42.06 | Xuerian | Gnarfoz: I don't like them, nor do I like the control panel |
| 23:42.16 | Gnarfoz | nvidia's is even worse |
| 23:42.27 | Gnarfoz | they lost a crapload of settings switching to the new one |
| 23:42.29 | trh | but the linux drivers at least work :) |
| 23:43.19 | Gnarfoz | great, still... I'm trying to have a usable desktop machine, so I'm on windows ^^ |
| 23:43.35 | trh | dual-boot ftw :) |
| 23:43.39 | kebinusan | Hmm, the SharedMedia thing should have an option for random bar texture, that might be fun to grab a different bar texture per bar |
| 23:43.42 | Ominous_ | im missing the last .8mb of this patch and its not downladong |
| 23:43.47 | hyperChipmunk | kebinusan: oh god no |
| 23:43.54 | hyperChipmunk | i can just see it now |
| 23:43.55 | kebinusan | lol |
| 23:44.12 | Fin | "Once the voltage on the 12V line exceeds around 15V, the power to the video card is immediately shut off to make sure your card won't be damaged" |
| 23:44.20 | Fin | I think that must be it then |
| 23:44.25 | hyperChipmunk | screenshots cluttered with 164MB addon memory and 60 different statusbar textures |
| 23:44.58 | kebinusan | heh |
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| 23:48.12 | undu | kebinusan: Well, if ATI had bad drivers, Nvidia had worse. |
| 23:48.26 | ckknight | undu: um, no. |
| 23:48.48 | undu | ATI is lightyears ahead of Nvidia currently with their monthly update cycle. |
| 23:48.54 | ckknight | nVidia's drivers are better than ATI's. The hardware might not be as good, though |
| 23:49.11 | undu | Actually, Nvidia has better hardware out atm. |
| 23:49.30 | nymbia | ati wrecked people in blackwing lair |
| 23:49.36 | kebinusan | yeah sorry, ATI had the worst driver policy forever, in fact often the mere act of updating your drivers would cause serious fps issues if the games ran at all.. |
| 23:49.50 | nymbia | half our raid crashed constantly on chrommaggus and nef |
| 23:49.52 | kebinusan | ATI used to do a policy of if it isnt broke dont update |
| 23:49.56 | nymbia | since they had ati cards |
| 23:50.04 | haste | ATi also had several problems under Linux |
| 23:50.12 | haste | like 100% hardware lockups due to the drivers |
| 23:50.22 | Xuerian | "had several problems", haste wins the understatement of the day |
| 23:50.26 | nymbia | lol |
| 23:50.34 | haste | Xuerian: I'm saying had, as I'm no longer using ATi due to it |
| 23:50.41 | haste | I don't know about the current state |
| 23:50.43 | Xuerian | haste: lol, point. |
| 23:50.47 | Xuerian | It isn't much better |
| 23:50.56 | haste | I shouldn't have used 'had' tho' ;) |
| 23:50.59 | Xuerian | Worse with composite WMs |
| 23:51.04 | hyperChipmunk | ati ate my puppydog =\ |
| 23:51.24 | haste | I will honestly never buy an ATi card after that experience |
| 23:51.37 | undu | I have always had ATI cards, always ran the latest drivers, and I never had any problems personally. About linux I can't really say much. Except I've heard they've gotten alot better lately. |
| 23:51.55 | haste | so has nvidia, and they were good before :) |
| 23:52.08 | Cryect | I will say Nvidia has broken performance on various thing in later driver implementations prolly for some game performance reasons |
| 23:52.23 | undu | You mean nvidia drivers not even supporting their latest graphicscards in vista? |
| 23:52.59 | hyperChipmunk | words cannot describe how little i care about that |
| 23:53.15 | Diao | they do though |
| 23:53.33 | Diao | you just need the beta versions |
| 23:53.36 | Xuerian | undu: That's sortof like what ati does to Linux, with almost all their cards |
| 23:55.24 | ckknight | you know what I want? |
| 23:55.32 | ckknight | Dellbuntus that ship ATI cards. |
| 23:55.42 | ckknight | you better bet that ATI will get working drivers, then |
| 23:55.57 | ckknight | but I doubt it |
| 23:56.01 | Industrial | I has a new pet http://i3.tinypic.com/4kdozkx.jpg |
| 23:56.06 | ckknight | they'll ship with Intel integrated my guess |
| 23:56.27 | Industrial | (its the little fucker on the left) |
| 23:56.34 | Industrial | (fighting itself) |
| 23:56.35 | Kaelten | http://www.mwave.com/mwave/skusearch.hmx?&scriteria=AA70760 |
| 23:57.05 | ckknight | Industrial: what level is your spider? |
| 23:57.13 | Industrial | 19 =D |
| 23:57.23 | Xuerian | Industrial: Haha. Nice |
| 23:57.24 | ckknight | ... lol |
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| 23:57.46 | Industrial | the sound it makes is awful |
| 23:57.55 | Industrial | like nails-to-chalkboard awful |
| 23:57.59 | Industrial | s/to/on/ |
| 23:58.46 | Industrial | no abilities tho:< but nicer then a cat. its +6% attack anyway like cat |
| 23:58.59 | hyperChipmunk | Industrial: get a tallstrider |
| 23:59.00 | Industrial | not like ill neec the claw dps |
| 23:59.08 | Industrial | need* |
| 23:59.11 | Industrial | hyperChipmunk: why :\ |
| 23:59.15 | CIA-23 | 03nymbia * r35266 10Tattle/ (Gladiator_EU1/EU1.lua data.lua): |
| 23:59.15 | CIA-23 | Tattle: |
| 23:59.15 | CIA-23 | - Update EU-Blackout data, thanks U1pa! |
| 23:59.34 | hyperChipmunk | if you really want to destroy people's psyche with the battlecry |
| 23:59.47 | Chompers | Tattle updates! |
| 23:59.48 | Chompers | yay |
| 23:59.50 | hyperChipmunk | tallstrider is definitely the way to go |
