IRC log for #wowace on 20070527

00:00.00Fin-t
00:00.10hyperChipmunkyou jerks
00:00.13Chompersi think i confused the poor guy
00:00.18Chompersoops
00:00.20Finhaha: http://www.google.com/search?q=postal+wow+addon
00:00.24hyperChipmunkconfused the living daylights out of that poor guy
00:00.27hyperChipmunkyea
00:00.32hyperChipmunkrofl
00:00.35Chompersoh my...
00:00.35hyperChipmunknice fin
00:02.27FinI'd love to know why Alta Vista chose to list the first result above the second: http://www.altavista.com/web/results?q=postal+wow+addon
00:03.00FinI shall write a letter!
00:03.03Diao?
00:03.14Finto complain
00:03.16Diaowhy would it not list the first result above the second
00:03.20Diaoo_O
00:03.58Finbecause the first only has the word "postal" in it twice amongst a lot of other text, etc.
00:04.14Finyes, I know
00:04.31Sedaiis there a ace mod that will time flight path ?
00:04.37Finyes
00:04.41FinToFu I think
00:04.48Sedaidoes cartographer do that?
00:04.53Diaotofu and inflight
00:05.13Diaoerr
00:05.14Diaofin
00:05.17FinDiao
00:05.22Diaofirst link goes to the wiki for postal o_O
00:05.30Finoh
00:05.33Finnot for me it doesn't
00:05.42Finfirst link goes to http://wowus.m6.net/knownaddons.php
00:05.46Finin the serp I got
00:05.59Diaoweird lol
00:06.04Nargiddleyi got postal wiki then files.wowace
00:06.04Finperhaps they're equally weighted
00:06.11Diaomine shows the wiki for postal first, then http://av.rds.yahoo.com/_ylt=A0Je5XA1y1hGtW4AXVVrCqMX;_ylu=X3oDMTBvdmM3bGlxBHBndANhdl93ZWJfcmVzdWx0BHNlYwNzcg--/SIG=12gr8ije0/EXP=1180310709/**http%3a//www.wowace.com/wiki/Ace_Alternatives_to_Common_Addons
00:06.15Diaoerr
00:06.19kebinusan_doesnt quartz have a flight timer now
00:06.19Diaoi copied link and it does that >.>
00:06.29Diaoquartz's flight timer requires inflight or flightpath
00:06.31Diaoor flightmap
00:06.33Diaoor something like that
00:06.44Sedaihttp://files.wowace.com/
00:07.32Sedaiwhihc libraries should i get?
00:07.34Fino/~  and I'll give you the key!  ~/o
00:07.38Diaoo_o
00:08.14Sedaiare the mods at http://files.wowace.com/ updated for the latest patch?
00:08.22dottedyes
00:08.33hyperChipmunkthey're updated every 20 minutes =x
00:08.38Fino/~  come on now lets get together  ~/o
00:08.50hyperChipmunkFin: you looking for a boot?
00:08.50Fino/~  in perfect harmony  ~/o
00:08.52CIA-2203funkydude * r37043 10Threat-1.0/ (. Threat-1.0.toc): Threat-1.0: update toc(compatibility with AceLibrary loading)
00:09.04FinhyperChipmunk: it's too hot to wear anything but sandles
00:09.08Finaiee
00:09.12Chompers*hot pants
00:09.27dottedSedai http://www.wowace.com/wiki/WinAceUpdater
00:10.04NightHawkTheSaneSedai: some are, some arn't.
00:11.35SedaioneBank doesnt work for viewing other characters' banks
00:11.43Sedai;_;
00:11.50CyrezIt lives! <3
00:12.41Sedaii have that
00:13.26Sedaididnt think it was working right
00:13.38*** join/#wowace nymbia (n=nymbia@71-218-137-239.hlrn.qwest.net)
00:13.45Sedaiim learning flash, still as3
00:14.26Sedaianyone else a flasher?
00:14.28Sedailol
00:16.03NightHawkTheSanei really need to transfer to a pve server. People are all fucking assholes.
00:16.30ThraeNightHawkTheSane: Transfer to a RP-PvP server. Roleplayers tend to be less of an asshole. Usually.
00:16.48NightHawkTheSaneThrae: no, they're just assholes who think they know what roleplaying is
00:17.13FinI always wanted to RP a mute
00:17.23ThraeThat's why I don't join super-hardcore RP guilds. Maelstrom has a good selection of casual, casual/hardcore guilds ^^;
00:17.29Finwould be a bit difficult for some classes
00:17.33Finno battle shout for warriors
00:17.41Finor, I guess, any spells for casters
00:17.46hyperChipmunkperma-silence
00:17.57NightHawkTheSaneThrae: don't take it personally, but i don't really consider any rp in wow to be worthwhile rp. ;)
00:17.59hyperChipmunkyou'd be a great rogue though
00:18.06ThraeI even Kul Tiras Marines on Maelstrom Alliance, which refuses to accept Night Elves for the most part, to accept my Druid.
00:18.14Finwho, me?
00:18.21hyperChipmunkwell RP isn't by definition "worthwhile"
00:18.37NightHawkTheSanehyperChipmunk: relatively speaking, then, if you want to split hairs ;)
00:18.37Finafter all, it's not "Worthwhile Playing"
00:18.40Chompersso glad i'm on a pve realm
00:18.41Finthat's WP
00:18.45Findifferent scene
00:19.07ThraeNightHawkTheSane: What hyperChipmunk said. WoW has a chat medium just like the rest of the Internet. Or do you just fine RP'ing over the Internet outside of forums unreasonable?
00:19.13Finactually I'm not sure WoW ever embraced "Worthwile Playing" wholeheartedly
00:19.25NightHawkTheSaneThrae: not at all, what I find lacking is the ability to make any changes at all to the world at large.
00:19.39NightHawkTheSaneyou can RP all you want, but the world doesn't change.
00:19.44Finwell
00:19.51Finit does...
00:20.12Finwhat does that mean, anyway? you can RP all you want, but the world doesn't change?
00:20.23Fin(not meaning to be rude)
00:20.54NightHawkTheSaneI mean, bosses in instances don't stay dead. Territories don't change hands, the massive quest chain you did to uncover a massive conspiracy? Oh wait, seventeen thousand other people did that too.
00:21.15kenlyric|homeif the world doesn't change, your role playing is kinda flat.'
00:21.16NightHawkTheSaneyour actions, roleplay or otherwise, cannot change the in which you're playing.
00:21.18ThraeNightHawkTheSane: Bah, since when has that been a major factor anyway? WoW is just freestyle RP, unlike campaign RP.
00:21.21kenlyric|homeAbout the only thing that changes is reputation.
00:21.33NightHawkTheSaneThrae: for me, it's a major factor in being able to enjoy rp.
00:21.53Finit's a game, play it how you like, no? I like it, it's fun
00:22.08Finalso wanted to RP a rogue actually, but *properly*
00:22.13*** join/#wowace wobin (n=wobin@203-217-47-110.dyn.iinet.net.au)
00:22.17ThraeNightHawkTheSane: In freestyle RP, people just generally pretend the world has changed. RP is all about pretending anyway. Aren't you being less imaginative if you want to force the game itself to change instead of just your character's perceptions?
00:22.17NightHawkTheSanethat's why I said, 'don't take it personally' :) If you enjoy it, that's fine with me. I just can't.
00:22.23Finlike, at the end of every instance, ninja all the epics, hearth and disappear
00:22.40Finthat'd be very rogueish I think
00:22.45NightHawkTheSaneThrae: really breaks the illusion for me, honestly.
00:23.09ZealotOnAStickthat'd be a stupidly greedy rogue.
00:23.10ThraeNightHawkTheSane: I'd say that's more a lack of imagination, which RP is built upon.
00:23.17Finthen turn up three weeks later in the inn and try to sell dodgy items to anyone who'll listen
00:23.39NightHawkTheSaneThrae: *shrug* whatever, I call it a preferred play style.
00:23.48ThraeNightHawkTheSane: You can say it's unfufilling for you, that's fine, but just don't say it fails as RP.
00:23.55NightHawkTheSaneI'm a sucker for massively extended world-changing storylines.
00:23.59FinI always thought being stupidly greedy was quite a common characteristic of real-life rogues
00:24.05Finwait, that's wrong
00:24.09Finof real-life movie rogues
00:24.16ZealotOnAStickonly bad ones.
00:24.29NightHawkTheSaneThrae: I never said it fails as rp :P
00:24.32Finthey're all bad! there's hardly any decent real-life movie rogues
00:24.45FinDanny Ocean, he's OK
00:24.46Finand the other 10
00:24.47Fin11
00:24.57ThraeNightHawkTheSane: Why aren't you playing AC or Guildwars, not to be mean? And will you skip over to Warhammer? All of those have often world-changing events, many times instantiated by the player.
00:25.33NightHawkTheSaneThrae: Primarily because I own a mac. Blame idiotic companies who can't be arsed to do the trivial work it take to make a mac version of their software. ;)
00:25.49NightHawkTheSaneThrae: aside from that, I do enjoy WoW as a game, just not the rp aspect of it. *shrug*
00:25.57ThraeNightHawkTheSane: Bah, you don't have an Intel-based processor so you can dual boot?
00:26.14NightHawkTheSaneThrae: not yet, too poor. >< I'm on an old G5/1.6
00:26.26ThraeI make my gaming machines run Windows and my desktops can be whatever I like (I use Ubuntu).
00:26.26Kinkxhttp://www.focalmatter.com/zombies/index.php?page=11
00:26.27Kinkxlal
00:26.31NightHawkTheSaneAnd screw dual booting, i'd use crossover ;)
00:27.16ThraeNightHawkTheSane: It'd be cheaper just to build a PC gaming machine. Crossover takes up a lot of resources, trying to merge two environments together.
00:27.22wobinKinkx: rofl
00:27.33ThraeJust because your gaming machine runs Windows doesn't mean you're selling out to Microsoft ;)
00:27.43ThraeIf you're really concerned about that, pirate it!
00:27.46NightHawkTheSaneThrae: meh, I don't care enough about games to warrent actually owning a pc.
00:27.58FinNightHawkTheSane: what do you care about?
00:28.04FinI care about games
00:28.30ThraeNightHawkTheSane: You're spending your day talking to people on a gaming addon channel ;)
00:28.49*** join/#wowace Jarenthal (n=Bob@cpe-071-076-173-175.triad.res.rr.com)
00:28.54NightHawkTheSaneFin: lots of things, *shrug* but aside from games, everything I want to do on a computer, I can -- and prefer to -- do on a mac, games arnt enough of a draw to make it worth spending money on a pc.
00:28.55Finand beer, and my mum, and my gf, and the internet, and the fate of the universe
00:28.59NightHawkTheSaneThrae: and? I can't enjoy talking about games? :P
00:29.16FinNightHawkTheSane: that completely didn't answer my question at all
00:29.26FinI protest!
00:29.37ThraeNightHawkTheSane: Well, unless your Mac breaks, when you get a new computer, it would be -cheaper- to get a PC ;)
00:29.38NightHawkTheSaneFin: the answer to "what do i care about" is more complex than i really care to get into, but if you really insist ;)
00:29.49Finaha!
00:29.50ThraeMacs are generally more expensive then a PC.
00:29.57NightHawkTheSaneThrae: macs don't break. ;)
00:30.10*** join/#wowace zac (n=zac@148.189.189.72.cfl.res.rr.com)
00:30.12nymbiai had one mac break
00:30.15nymbiait was sad
00:30.16Finso I can tell by that, that you care about other things more than talking about caring about them
00:30.31NightHawkTheSaneI've still got an old g3/266 sitting back there that still runs, and runs osx reasonably well, too.
00:30.39FinNightHawkTheSane: OK, I really insist
00:30.45Finif that's OK
00:30.48nymbiai'm typing this on a g4 466 >.>
00:30.50FinI mean, I don't have to really insist
00:31.12NightHawkTheSanenymbia: hawt.
00:31.14Finnymbia: what, run out of chairs?
00:31.22ThraeNightHawkTheSane: That's completely untrue. Macs now use most of the same hardware as PCs. The only thing that can "break" in a PC is the hardware. Sure the OS can get mighty screwed up, but if you're just using it for gaming and other of the millions of Windows-based applications, you probably will never have a problem.
00:31.23nymbiaFin: lol
00:31.28Fin:P
00:31.32AntiarcKTM doesn't have threat values for Mocking Blow? o.0
00:31.39NightHawkTheSaneThrae: i was being a smartass ;)
00:31.49nymbiaAntiarc: maybe just copies the taunt mechanics?
00:31.53snurreAntiarc: it's a taunt effect, so
00:31.55nymbiaAntiarc: they work the same, right?
00:31.58NightHawkTheSaneno they dont
00:32.01NightHawkTheSanethey are very different
00:32.01AntiarcMocking Blow is different from taunt, and it causes threat.
00:32.05ThraeNightHawkTheSane: Sure if you buy a crappy brand-name computer for the lowest price, then yeah, your PC won't be as good as a Mac which forces you to use better quality components for the most parts.
00:32.12AntiarcIt forces aggro, but it doesn't pop you to the top of the aggro list.
00:32.15AntiarcSee: The four horsemen.
00:32.17sdoubledoes it cause threat?  Or does it force aggro?
00:32.29AntiarcIt causes some threat, but it doesn't give you as much threat at the person on top of the aggro list.
00:32.30NightHawkTheSaneit forces your target to attack you for 6s, and also causes threat
00:32.32ThraeThen again, you don't always need high-quality components for everything.
00:32.35Finforcing aggro by definition causes threat
00:32.37snurreit doesnt cause more threat than the dmg, afaik
00:32.38Sedaiperiodic table
00:32.43AntiarcFin: No, there are overrides.
00:32.47Antiarcsnurre: The tooltip says otherwise.
00:32.51NightHawkTheSanesnurre: yes it does
00:32.52AntiarcA mocking attack that causes 31 damage, a moderate amount of threat and forces the target to focus attacks on you for 6 sec.
00:33.20AntiarcThe wording would imply that it very much does not work like taunt.
00:33.22sdoubleah, there you have it.  "a moderate amount of threat" would be causing threat
00:33.23Sedaiwhat is periodic table?
00:33.32AntiarcYes, but how much, is the question.
00:33.37ThraeI thought the basic Taunts were changed to just put you on the top of the threat list at the moment of taunt, regardless of where you were on the list?
00:33.38NightHawkTheSaneSedai: item sets.
00:33.43sdoublewhereas, forces target to focus attacks on you for 6 seconds would cause 0 threat.
00:33.50AntiarcThrae: They were. You stay there if you taunt.
00:33.53*** join/#wowace JoshBorke (n=Joshua@adsl-211-206-226.asm.bellsouth.net)
00:33.53Finright... it's an attack that forces aggro - are there any attacks that don't cause threat?
00:33.54Sedaiwhat is a set?
00:33.59AntiarcThink of mocking blow as an inverse fade.
00:34.08FinSedai: a subset of the whole
00:34.11NightHawkTheSaneSedai: a collection of items
00:34.14AntiarcYou become forced top of the aggro list for 6 sec. After it's over, you lose the threat that let you stay on top.
00:34.15snurretaunt has two effects; 1) puts you on top of threat list, 2) forces the target to attack you for 4sec
00:34.22Sedaioh I see.
00:34.23ThraeAntiarc: So then why does the tooltip say "adds a moderate amount of threat"...oh, I see.
00:34.33NightHawkTheSanesnurre: 3s ;)
00:34.37AntiarcThe added threat is -additional- and stays when the effect ends.
00:34.40AntiarcI need to know how much that is.
00:34.40Finah
00:34.41ThraeSo you lose the threat bonus after 6 seconds. Gotcha.
00:34.49AntiarcRight, kinda.
00:34.52NightHawkTheSaneer..
00:34.54snurrenot the threat value
00:34.59JoshBorkeha, someone's writing a new threat meter
00:35.01AntiarcThe 4H are empirical proof of this
00:35.06snurretaunt permanently increases your total threat on the target
00:35.12AntiarcJoshBorke: http://i10.tinypic.com/6cy1bes.jpg
00:35.14Finthe 4H? sounds sinister
00:35.16snurreto the current highest threatvalue +1
00:35.18NightHawkTheSaneMocking blow has two effects: it causes threat, damge + innate threat, and second, it forces the target to attack you for 6s, that doesn't cause any other threat change
00:35.19AntiarcFour Horsemen
00:35.20ThraeI thought Taunt simply forced the the enemy to change targets, but that's more powerful then I thought it was.
00:35.25nekohAntiarc: http://www.wowwiki.com/Formulas:Aggro , also some explanation on mocking blow and threat values (dunno if correct though)
00:35.27Finaha
00:35.52sdoubledoes taunt say that it causes threat like Mocking Blow does?
00:35.54Antiarc"Mocking Blow, Challenging Shout and Challenging Roar do force mobs to attack you (#1), but do not match threat or transfer aggro. Mocking Blow generates a pre-defined amount of threat; Challenging Shout and Challenging Roar do not generate any threat at all!"
00:36.03Antiarcsdouble: No. Its mechanics are known to be different.
00:36.03Finthat's interesting, I didn't know the threat was additional
00:36.28*** join/#wowace Telrin (n=test@shandalar.xs4all.nl)
00:36.37NightHawkTheSanethough, to be sure, im not precisely sure what innate threat MB has, but it's not particularly significant compared to other threat moves a warrior has.
00:36.53snurreAntiarc: does ktm count 1 rage gain = 5 threat?
00:36.59SedaiI am not a logistical mathmatical type, k.
00:37.23Antiarcsnurre: Yes.
00:37.28snurrek
00:37.42AntiarcThere it is, 290 for Mocking Blow rank 6
00:37.48Sedaibrain
00:37.55Finpinky
00:38.11Finthe same thing we do every night
00:38.32Sedaibrain cemestry, constructiuon, strengths, weaknessess.
00:38.42Finso, anyone seen the new transformers trailer?
00:38.43CIA-2203laotseu * r37044 10AllPlayed/AllPlayed.toc:
00:38.43CIA-22AllPlayed:
00:38.43CIA-22- Bump to version 20100-2
00:38.44CIA-22- No real change in AllPlayed but a new zip with the latest revision of Abacus will be generated by the script.
00:38.54wobinWhat's the difference between mocking blow and challenging shout?
00:38.54Finit - is - so - like, totally - awesome
00:39.06wobinFin: The one that came out a week or so ago?
00:39.14SedaiI make nice GUI comilations.
00:39.20Finwobin: yeh! yahoo "exclusive" or something, dunno if it is anymore
00:39.40Finbig robots, explosions, flying shit, secret headquarters, nice effects
00:39.41nekohFin: link please, seen the old one
00:39.41NightHawkTheSanewobin: mocking blow is a damaging attack that causes some ammount of permanent threat on a single target, challenging shout is an area-of-effect shout
00:39.44wobinFin: the second one, or is it a third one now?
00:39.46FinI am going to love this film
00:39.58wobinand Challenging Roar?
00:40.03Finwobin: dunno, I never watched the others, everyone said they were shit
00:40.05NightHawkTheSanesame as challenging shout, but for a bear.
00:40.08wobinoh
00:40.13wobin^^
00:40.17sdoubleAwesome, I love the new crash WoW on restore from alt+tab in the patch.
00:40.23sdoubleIt's about time they added that.
00:40.24Finhttp://movies.yahoo.com/summer-movies/Transformers/1808716430/trailers/31
00:40.27Antiarcsdouble: There's a fix for that
00:40.37NightHawkTheSanesdouble: it's a conspiracy to make you spend more of your CPU in game, and thus give KTM more cpu cycles!
00:40.40wobinCatform should have something like Mocking Purr, or Snide Meow
00:40.53NightHawkTheSanekenco is in ur wow! stealing ur cpu cycles! he's going to horde them to take over the world!
00:40.54Finhaha
00:40.54Finyeah
00:41.00NightHawkTheSanewobin: catform has cower, like rogue feint.
00:41.01CIA-2203hati * r37045 10RaidGroupNumber/RaidGroupNumber.toc: RaidGroupNumber: version
00:41.02AntiarcSomething to do with mipmapping
00:41.13FinSilent Dismissal
00:41.17wobinBut they need something to show the enemy that they're superior, as cats are
00:41.28wobinCower hardly does that!
00:41.46sdoublehaha, KTM owns my computer
00:41.54Sedaishould i get PT3Browser?
00:42.05Finno
00:42.24JoshBorkeCryect: PING
00:42.36NightHawkTheSaneSedai: uh, yes? no? maybe? all it does is let you browse pt3's item sets.
00:42.55nekoh~seen elkano
00:43.46purlelkano <n=86603dd0@195.245.105.26> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 5d 18h 18m 25s ago, saying: 'short hello :/'.
00:43.47kenlyric|homewill it actually load pt sets?
00:43.47hyperChipmunkwobin: these cookies are really good
00:43.47wobinas required
00:43.47kenlyric|homesince bulkmail2 doesn't
00:43.47NightHawkTheSaneit would kind of have to.
00:43.48kenlyric|homespeaking of that, fix it!
00:43.48wobinhyperChipmunk: Aren't they? =) Have you tried the TimTamSuck?
00:43.48Nyriccknight, do you know about the problems with honorfu ?
00:43.48hyperChipmunkno, not yet
00:43.51hyperChipmunkit strikes me as sort of a hot-chocolate thing
00:43.54wobinyeah
00:43.58wobinit's a cold weather thing too
00:43.58hyperChipmunkand it's summer on this side of the world
00:44.03hyperChipmunkright
00:44.13hyperChipmunki'm gonna try to sove some
00:44.14hyperChipmunksave
00:44.26nymbia~seen nymbia
00:45.47purlnymbia is currently on #wowi-lounge (32m 9s) #wowace (32m 9s). Has said a total of 7 messages. Is idling for 1m 21s, last said: '~seen nymbia'.
00:45.48NightHawkTheSanehyperChipmunk: wait, you only make hot chocolate in the winter? o_0
00:45.48wobinHeh, I wonder if you could do it with cold chocolate milk
00:45.48hyperChipmunkor i'll just bear it
00:45.48hyperChipmunkor wait until it starts snowing mid-summer
00:45.48wobinEat lots and hibernate?
00:45.48hyperChipmunksince that's not unheard of here =P
00:45.48FinOK
00:45.48Fino/~  I've got a brand new combine harvester  ~/o
00:45.48hyperChipmunkthat's because you're sane
00:45.49hyperChipmunkfin...
00:45.49wobincup of tea, cup of tea, nearly got shagged, cup of tea...
00:45.49NightHawkTheSanehyperChipmunk: indeed.
00:45.52hyperChipmunknow you're repeating yourself
00:45.54sdoubleFin, seriously?  heh
00:46.06hyperChipmunkso that's 2x worse
00:46.12wobinhttp://www.faceoftomorrow.com/thefaces.asp#
00:46.36wobinFin: And I'll give you the key
00:46.39Finsdouble: I'll give you the key
00:46.54Finooh! musical key chairs!
00:47.03NightHawkTheSanenymbia: lol, it'd be amusing if you could get something like ~seen to call itself, putting purl into an infinite loop ;)
00:47.24wobinpity purl's written to not trigger off herself
00:47.33hyperChipmunki think we've tried it before between purl and cia
00:47.36hyperChipmunkbut they're too smart
00:47.36NightHawkTheSaneyeah, i thought of that as i was typing
00:48.04NightHawkTheSanebastard programmers and their bastard loop prevention!
00:48.27Findip trip - flip fantasia
00:48.53Fin</obscure reference to cantaloop>
00:49.08sdoubleOwned.
00:50.08Finno chance of, er, getting together then? in perfect harmon... no, never mind
00:50.33Finalthough I have to say I don't know who's going to do your 43 acres now
00:50.53hyperChipmunkok who jacked up cartographer's background again
00:51.01sdouble43 acres is barely enough to bother with a brand new combine.  I'm just going to do it by hand.
00:51.23Fincost me a lot, that combine
00:51.30wobin=(
00:51.33Finshame to just let it sit there
00:51.35wobinNow unless you can hotwire it...
00:52.03Finwell actually, funny you should mention that, because...
00:52.15Fino/~  I'll stick by you, I'll give you all that you need
00:52.20FinWe'll 'ave twins and triplets  ~/o
00:52.34Fino/~  I'm a man built for speed  ~/o
00:52.45NightHawkTheSaneAm I just losing it, or has this channel become very strange.. er.
00:52.46kenlyric|homebecome?
00:52.54Fin"become"...
00:53.02NightHawkTheSaneer! strange*er*!
00:53.11FinI typed that before kenlyric|home, I just let him go first because I'm nice
00:53.42Findon't you just love logging on and seeing all those auctions you put up earlier sold
00:54.48sbuNightHawkTheSane: uhm - where is my pie?
00:54.54kenlyric|homeFin, only when the total is more than 1000g :)
00:54.58NightHawkTheSanesbu: i hate it. it was good.
00:55.14Finkenlyric|home: close...
00:55.55Finno wait that's a lie, it was only a couple of hundred gold, but it's a lot for me cos this is my first Horde character, and I've had to build up my little empire from scratch almost
00:56.12Finhad it all sorted on Alliance
00:56.27Finactually, that side of the game is one I really enjoyed
00:56.56wobinFin: What do you sell?
00:57.00FinI suppose some people think that's sad or something, but I like the whole AH stuff
00:57.10wobinI never have enough patience for the AH
00:57.18wobinAnd KCI keeps bugging out on me =(
00:57.22Finwobin: I just sent everything that I thought might be sort of useful to an alt while levelling, and every 20 levels or so I dump it all in the AH
00:57.37Fina lot of it doesn't sell, and some of it's for silly prices, but I made about 300g
00:57.42ZealotOnAStickWhee.  1763 mana per tap/pact now.
00:57.54FinI just hate vendoring stuff that seems useful
00:58.14FinI got to Outlands for the first time yesterday!
00:58.21Finit's fun
00:58.25AntiarcWarrior module's done, I think
00:58.43kenlyric|homeI tend to bank stuff if it won't sell in the AH, in case the market changes on them.
00:59.10sdoublesame, then I end up with a bank full of stuff that won't sell
00:59.15kenlyric|homean addon like BULKMAIL2 is nice for dumping everything into an alt :)
00:59.19Finoh, I bank a lot
00:59.25Finbut I mean, like, I send *everything* to my alt
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00:59.29kenlyric|homeif it would load pt sets properly, of course :)
00:59.34Finlike Wicked Claws and stuff
00:59.42sdoubleI use Postal.  But yeah, same concept.
00:59.42Finall adds up
00:59.42CIA-2203antiarc * r37046 10Threat-1.0/ (5 files in 2 dirs): Threat-1.0: Warrior module added.
00:59.42kenlyric|homebulkmail2 is like doubleawesome :)
01:00.01kenlyric|homestuff I know I won't ever sell I do vendor right away.. saves the 30copper :)
01:00.05FinI used to have 3 bank characters on Alliance
01:00.05Finwell, I still do actually
01:00.24Finthere's an addon called Auto Mail Director that would've been really useful if I'd known about it back then
01:00.49sdoubleExcellent job Antiarc.  it's about time we got an alternative
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01:02.30Diaoyay warrior module
01:03.55Diaohm
01:03.55Diaosanity is not tracking items properly for me :(
01:03.55sbuAntiarc: mh - do you know anything about the tank detection in ktm?
01:03.57sbuand why its done?
01:04.35Diaodoesn't it go by whoever has agro?
01:05.55AntiarcNo, and no.
01:06.14sbuwell: "It is important to determine which player is tanking the mob of interest, because that player's threat determines when we will pull aggro. As such it is used for the Aggro Gain bar and associated data. "
01:06.49AntiarcAh, right. Gonna be doing something similar to that. Won't be too hard.
01:06.58wobinAntiarc: How are you dealing with multiple mobs with aggro?
01:06.59Diaoalso tank regain
01:07.00kergothwhat's the threshold for pulling aggro again, 10%?
01:07.03Diao10% for melee
01:07.04Diao30% range
01:07.09kergothah
01:07.10kergothinteresting
01:07.20wobin30% more than the tank?
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01:07.43Diaoyes
01:07.47wabkiahey, is there a hot fix for the target debuff icons?
01:07.48sdoubleby range, does that also go for spells?
01:07.50kebinusan_bah screw soulshatter getting resisted
01:07.55wabkiacause on AGUF theres no timer thing
01:07.58snurresdouble: it only goes by distance to mob
01:08.00Diaoyes
01:08.02wabkiabut on stock there is
01:08.04Diaobut only if you're at range
01:08.05NightHawkTheSanewobin: 30% more than current agro holder, to be sure. ;)
01:08.23sbu[BS["Blessing of Salvation"]] = function(a) <-- does this catch Greater Blessing as well?
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01:09.11snurretank has 1000 threat, caster goes to 1300 threat and gets aggro.. tank must reach 1430 threat to regain aggro
01:09.36snurre(given that the mob runs over to caster and tank follows, and doesnt use taunt/etc)
01:09.47wabkiaanyone have an answer for me?
01:10.18wobinah
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01:10.23wobinPoor tank
01:10.30Antiarcwobin: I'm tracking target-threat and general (heal, power gain, etc) threat.
01:10.31NightHawkTheSanemore like stupid caster ;)
01:10.54wabkia?
01:10.59AntiarcI'm not trying to track threat per enemy, because there's a) no good way to ensure you see all enemies, and b) you can't differentiate enemies of the same name/level
01:11.03Funkeh`Antiarc: watch your syncing systerm also, ktm one ain't that great :/
01:11.05wobinNightHawkTheSane: yeah, that's what I mean =) Poor tank to have to deal with a stupid caster =)
01:11.12NightHawkTheSanewobin: lol :D
01:11.13AntiarcFunkeh`: I'm being very polite with my synching :)
01:11.21Funkeh`cool
01:11.34wobin"Omen: Excuse me, would you mind filling out this survey?"
01:11.38Funkeh`im pretty sure ktm syncing contributes to quite a lot of raid lag
01:11.39AntiarcIt only synchs when there's new data, and synch is done by a bucket event to prevent the lib from spazzing out if a bunch of stuff happens at once.
01:11.42sbuAntiarc: mh, dont be too polite, too old data is useless here ;o
01:11.57Antiarcsbu: Mostly, I'm not synching if nothing has changed.
01:12.06NightHawkTheSanewobin: honestly, from a tank point of view, the only annoying part is that the caster dying might mean we don't have the dps to kill it before the healerse go oom. Other than that, it's fun watching squishies go.. well.. squish.
01:12.23Funkeh`also im not so sure ever single thing should be synced constantly, maybe saving up for like 2 seconds then broadcasting
01:12.27wabkiawow
01:12.35wabkiathis isnt the RnD forums
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01:12.48TainI like the fights where when squishy people die it's 100% their own fault.
01:13.03wabkiais it possible to make AGUF use default debuf auras so that i can see the debuff timers?
01:13.04wobinIt's such a teaching experience
01:13.08AntiarcFunkeh`: Exactly, hence the bucket event.
01:13.16Funkeh`yeah
01:13.44AntiarcOoh, I could have the transmission rate vary based on the # of people in the group
01:13.53Funkeh`are you using ace comm?
01:13.56AntiarcYes
01:14.02Funkeh`cool
01:14.06NightHawkTheSaneAntiarc: erm, i'm not sure i see why that'd be desirable?
01:14.09AntiarcSo that at low group numbers, you stay close to realtime, and at high group numbers it increases the transmit period to avoid excessive chat lag.
01:14.13Funkeh`no thats a bad idea
01:14.14AntiarcNot chat lag, per se
01:14.21AntiarcBut excessive addon chatter
01:14.21Funkeh`well
01:14.23hyperChipmunkyou'd want more with more people, no?
01:14.30Funkeh`i suppose it depends what you set it to how many players
01:14.31hyperChipmunksince the big raids are where it's most important
01:14.45AntiarcI'm thinking a period of like 0.5 for a small group, scaling to a period of 1.5 for a 25-man
01:14.46Funkeh`what do you have in mind?
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01:14.56AntiarcBasically so that you transmit 3x less often in a 25-man
01:14.58Funkeh`hmm
01:15.05AntiarcBut 1.5 sec is still plenty short enough to be useful
01:15.18wabkiaso what do you guys do?
01:15.20wabkiakarazhan?
01:15.30hyperChipmunkhey, why don't you do it every second, regardless of how big the group is...or whether they're even in a raid at all!
01:15.37Diaolol
01:15.44Diao1.5sec is fine
01:15.47Diaogcd takes care of that
01:15.50Funkeh`yeah
01:15.52Funkeh`sync BG also
01:15.56Funkeh`need to know my pvp threat
01:15.58wobinhow about predictive aggro gain? =) If the person has more than 20% mana/energy/rage, forecast the aggro increase and put that in =)
01:16.08wabkiano
01:16.09Diaoo_O
01:16.11Diaowtf?
01:16.15wabkiathat would be terribl
01:16.19hyperChipmunkagro potential!
01:16.19wobinhehe
01:16.25Diaobut rage doesn't work the same way :(
01:16.30NightHawkTheSaneFunkeh`: hey, it's important in AV, so that the retnoob pally  next to you knows how much he could heal you without pulling agro, if he actually had healing spell on his bars.
01:16.32AntiarcNot gonna do that, but I am going to do a predicted time-till-you-die :)
01:16.36AntiarcBased on your TPS
01:16.37hyperChipmunkmages get a big red X
01:16.38wobinyay!
01:16.47Funkeh`lol NightHawkTheSane
01:17.02hyperChipmunkrofl
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01:17.05wobinNightHawkTheSane: That's why I heal with HolyNova!
01:17.12NightHawkTheSanewobin: hahaha
01:17.17wobinThreatless heals ftw! =)
01:17.20hypetechis anybody else having serious issues with sRaidFrames in battlegrounds?
01:17.33Funkeh`~seen skyboat
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01:18.32Funkeh`!seen skyboat
01:18.32wobin(Plus, the free smites don't hurt, either)
01:18.32sdouble[20:15:24] <Diao> but rage doesn't work the same way :(  <-- it could!  Make the addon "learn" how the player linkes to play and predict what attacks they might use with a CPU intensive algorithm
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01:18.33hyperChipmunkgood thing you're not a druid; one AE heal every 10 mins O_o
01:18.33Funkeh`right
01:18.33NightHawkTheSanehyperChipmunk: but it's a big ae heal ;)
01:18.33Funkeh`hes 'localization cleanup' has destroyed the localization
01:18.33sdoublehehe, oops
01:18.33wobinhehe, I see that used so unoften
01:18.33Antiarcsdouble: Obviously, we need an addon that iterates every single action that the player could take and determines the most likely aggro gain from that.
01:18.35AntiarcEvery single frame.
01:18.35NightHawkTheSaneone of the druids i used to group with used it pretty often
01:18.36hypetechnobody else having issues with sRaidFrames in battlegrounds? 2 people in my raid are
01:18.46sdoubleAbsolutely!  Now you're talking.
01:18.52hyperChipmunkpost-2.0 tranq is friggin MASSIVE
01:19.09sdoubleWith charting and graphs of course
01:19.10NightHawkTheSanefreaking massive agro too.
01:19.18hyperChipmunkyou can talent it down to 0 agro
01:19.28wobinreally?
01:19.31NightHawkTheSaneyeah, that requires the talent though
01:19.31hyperChipmunkyep
01:19.32wobinhm
01:19.34hyperChipmunkmy druid likes to use it in blades edge arena
01:19.41hyperChipmunkyou can heal from under the bridge with it
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01:19.55wobinyeah for a 10min heal is it worth the talent points?
01:20.00sbuwobin: tried this today (illhoof)
01:20.08sbuwas just awesome
01:20.16wobintried what?
01:20.17NightHawkTheSanewobin: if you're a healing druid it might be
01:20.19sbulvl 1 holynova + smite
01:20.22wobin^^
01:20.24wobinI <3 it
01:20.30sbu~free smite :o
01:20.52wobinI even <4 it
01:20.52wobinIt works great in multi mob grinding
01:21.16wobinWhen doing the ogres in Nagrand, I could hit surge -every- holynova as there were so many targets =)
01:21.31sbuhmmm yep
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01:25.27kenlyric|homeok.
01:26.00wobinhm
01:26.07wobinI guess I should put my priest to 70
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01:26.46sbuAntiarc: did you respond to the "how are you going to handle multiple targets?" question? :p tabs for each mob? ;)
01:27.11Antiarcsbu: Not going to try to differentiate it, save for a master target, due to a number of reasons.
01:27.36wobinHow is the info going to be displayed? I saw the screenshot with the 'overthetank' bar...?
01:27.54Antiarcwobin: Any number of ways. Threat-1.0 is a library, and you can write any display you want for it.
01:28.04AntiarcI'm working on a mod that's a KTM-type UI for it.
01:28.58Diaoso no module for multi mob targets? :o
01:28.58sbuAntiarc: so multiple targets would be too much overhead i guess?
01:28.58AntiarcBut we can have graphs, charts, SCT, whatever
01:28.58Antiarcsbu: Less that it's overhead, more that it's not accurate and would give a false sense of security (or insecurity)
01:28.58NightHawkTheSanemulti-mob targets are extremely difficult to deal with, especialy if they're similarly named
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01:29.20AntiarcI -may- support explicit multiple targets
01:29.20sbuAntiarc: because of naming (what NightHawkTheSane said)?
01:29.20AntiarcI'm not sure about that yet.
01:29.20AntiarcCorrect.
01:29.20CIA-2203funkydude * r37050 10TinyTipOptions/ (8 files): TinyTipOptions: revert skyboat's cleanup until he/she can find an editor that doesn't completely break the localization
01:29.20sbuyeah ok - good point here
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01:30.04Diaohmm
01:30.16Diaois it possible with the api to return the raid icon
01:30.25Diaoif you target a mob
01:30.34sdoubleIt sure would make things easy if every NPC in the game had a unique ID.
01:30.43AntiarcI believe so, yes, but if you're assigning raid icons, then that can be part of the explicit assignment stuff
01:30.55Diaoyeah
01:31.02Diaothere is it
01:31.07DiaoAPI GetRaidTargetIndex
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01:31.10wobinHas anyone used Warding Shields?
01:31.12Diaoso if you have multiple targets marked
01:31.17Diaoit can track threat by raid icon maybe
01:31.18CIA-2203skyboat * r37052 10Babble-2.2/Babble-Spell-2.2/Babble-Spell-2.2.lua:
01:31.18CIA-22Babble-2.2:
01:31.18CIA-22- Spell: Added "Fel Energy" to enUS localization.
01:31.27sdoubleThey do, how else would they track it themselves.  But why don't they provide this ID for us?  =[
01:31.36AntiarcIntentially, I'm sure.
01:31.43NightHawkTheSaneyes, its intentional
01:32.46CIA-2203antiarc * r37053 10Threat-1.0/ (22 files in 7 dirs): Threat-1.0: Massive reorganization. Added libs externals. Library is now embeddable or standalone-capable.
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01:36.16ckknighthey all
01:36.16ckknightback from work
01:36.40AntiarcWelcome back
01:36.41snurremeow ck
01:37.02sbuckknight: mhh - do you want to fix cartographe? :o
01:37.11ckknightwhat's the issue?
01:37.47sbuinstance maps are broken somehow - somethimes thers the instance map + (random?) outdoor map
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01:37.59ckknightI fixed that
01:38.00ckknightupdate
01:38.01sbuand i heard stuff about not having any boss icons
01:38.08ckknightit works for me
01:38.16hyperChipmunkthe frame is opaque again, and pvp objectives aren't visible
01:38.27sbuah right, pvp objectives :)
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01:38.50ckknighthow do I reproduce that?
01:39.05sbujust enter alterac, you wont see any towers / graveyards
01:39.07hyperChipmunkclick on a zone with pvp objectives
01:39.17hyperChipmunkoh, battlegrounds too
01:39.19hyperChipmunk?
01:39.21hyperChipmunkouch
01:39.27hyperChipmunkyou can just click on EPL or something
01:39.38FtH|DaemonaAntiarc ? is it what it looks like? are you writing an ace'd ktm?
01:39.46sbuFtH|Daemona: yep
01:39.49Diaono
01:39.52Diaoit's entirely new
01:39.54Diao:P
01:39.59FtH|Daemonaa library to provide !
01:40.15hyperChipmunkmake sure you have "Display World PVP Objectives" to 'Always' in your Interface Options and look at the EPL map
01:40.18AntiarcYes.
01:40.22hyperChipmunkand you won't see any =P
01:40.23AntiarcIt's not an ace'd KTM
01:40.29AntiarcIt's a threatmeter built on ACE
01:40.31AntiarcThat is not KTM :P
01:40.35Diaohm i wonder
01:40.36WobinWhere's a good place to get Super mana pots?
01:40.41FtH|Daemonasorry for using the wrong term :(
01:40.41hyperChipmunkmy g/f
01:40.41Diaoif you were tracking threat by raid icon
01:40.43JoshBorkewobin: an alchemist
01:40.44AntiarcHeheh
01:40.46Diaoand the icon was changed
01:40.46AntiarcNo problem :)
01:40.48hyperChipmunkshe's a friggin alchemy freak
01:40.48ThraeWobin: Superman
01:40.50Diaothat would screw it up
01:40.56sbunymbia? :)
01:41.00WobinWhat are the mats?
01:41.07JoshBorkebeats me
01:41.28sbuhyperChipmunk: mine too ;p
01:41.30hyperChipmunkthe nagrand arena quest loads you up with 'em too
01:41.44sbuand discovered flask of rentless assault yesterday <3
01:41.58sbu+ke
01:42.01sbuerr well
01:42.24sbunymbia :/ PT3bar should prioritize mage water > other water
01:42.57sbui dont like drinking expensive water if i have 3 stacks of mage water :o
01:43.00CIA-2203antiarc * r37056 10Omen/Libs/: Omen: Added external libs
01:43.01ckknightAntiarc: jesus fucking christ
01:43.05Antiarcckknight: ?
01:43.05ckknightAntiarc: it's Ace, not ACE
01:43.08hyperChipmunkO_o
01:43.09AntiarcI know :(
01:43.10hyperChipmunkrofl
01:43.13sbuhehe
01:43.18AntiarcI was stuck in shift mode from typing KTM so many times.
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01:43.33Diaolol
01:43.42ckknightsbu: I don't see how you expect me to enter Alterac...
01:43.46ckknight:-P
01:43.50sbu*sigh*
01:43.57sbuyou asked me how to reproduce it :o
01:43.59hyperChipmunkckknight: read what i said =p
01:44.05ckknightEPL?
01:44.05hyperChipmunkckknight: make sure you have "Display World PVP Objectives" to 'Always' in your Interface Options and look at the EPL map
01:44.08sdoubleDon't do it, it's a trick.
01:44.10hyperChipmunkeastern plaguelands
01:44.11ckknightah, alright
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01:44.11sbueastern plaguelands
01:44.24ckknightI should probably take a shower first
01:45.01sbuerr no! you wont be able to reproduce then...
01:45.48sdoubleNot funny guys, who took my pad of paper?
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01:47.21sbublame NightHawkTheSane - he also took my pie...
01:48.35NightHawkTheSanemmf.. did not..
01:48.36Funkeh`Antiarc: wheres my priest threat!
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01:48.43Funkeh`Antiarc: priests always come first ffs!
01:49.01kenlyric|homeFADE
01:49.08Funkeh`lawl
01:49.24AntiarcFunkeh`: Write it yerself!
01:49.31Antiarc(Priest is probably next , as I have a 62 priest)
01:49.36sdouble/gasp NightHawkTheSane
01:49.39Funkeh`i would but io have no idea what the threat values are
01:49.43Funkeh`or how to generate them
01:50.02sbuFunkeh`: http://www.wowwiki.com/Formulas:Aggro
01:50.35dottedimo make Violation use Threat-1.0
01:50.49Funkeh`how about no?
01:50.53Funkeh`why would that help?
01:51.16dottedthen i wouldnt need to install Omen :)+
01:51.17dotted?
01:51.48Funkeh`no :)
01:51.54Funkeh`2 small mods > 1 big mod
01:52.26Funkeh`otherwise we would add an agro module to it and label it deadly boss mods
01:52.45sdoubleNO U
01:53.14ckknightUR DUM
01:53.28NightHawkTheSanesince it's just a library there's no reason why you couldn't make a violation module to display the data. >.>
01:53.29dottedDBM > * imo
01:53.31Funkeh`ckknight: you suck
01:53.31sdoubleI thought we were lovers.  /cry
01:53.36ckknightFunkeh`: blow me
01:53.59Funkeh`dotted: lol, is that sarcasm?
01:54.11dottedthat for you to decide
01:54.14dotted*thats
01:54.27ckknightlol, my brother is so racist
01:54.29Funkeh`ill say yes since im not in the mood to tell you wahts wrong wiht it
01:54.30ckknightmore funny than anything
01:54.46dottedgz Funkeh` you win a cookie
01:54.52dotted:p
01:54.54Funkeh`thanks dotted
01:55.01Funkeh`i pride myself in my work
01:55.09dotted:o
01:55.58sbumhhhhh Antiarc. passive threat generation is going to be a problem isnt it?
01:55.59dottedanyways
01:56.21dottedthreat module for violation kthx
01:56.21dotted:D
01:56.31Funkeh`go write it
01:56.32sbuyou have to split up your heal-aggro between all enemy targets in combat? (& in range?)
01:56.33Funkeh`then commit it
01:56.36Funkeh`so i can revert it
01:56.50dottedi dunno lua
01:56.58Antiarcsbu: Assumption is a single enemy.
01:56.59Funkeh`hence your dbm statement
01:57.04AntiarcThat was you never underestimate.
01:57.12AntiarcThere isn't really a better way to do it.
01:57.12dottedwhich was indeed sarcastic
01:57.29sbuhmyep i know, since you cant get the exact number (naming issues!?)
01:57.33dotted*i dunno lua syntax
01:57.41dottedmight have been more correctly formulated
01:57.43AntiarcWell that, and you have no way to get the presence of enemies that nobody has targeted.
01:58.14sbumh - asked before - [BS["Blessing of Salvation"]] = function(a) <-- detecting greater blessings as well?
01:58.22Funkeh`dotted: well consider that peopel might not want a threat module in violation
01:58.24Funkeh`say, healers
01:58.36Antiarcsbu: Aha, I don't think I would have been, thanks.
01:58.50NightHawkTheSaneFunkeh`: er, couldn't they just disable it then?
01:59.01dottedFunkeh` you make no sense
01:59.16Funkeh`threat meter != damage meter
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01:59.24dottedso?
01:59.35Funkeh`when i download an addon to measure damage/healing, thats what i want
01:59.36NightHawkTheSaneits an arbitrary distinction
01:59.37CIA-2203antiarc * r37059 10Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0/ThreatBuffsData.lua: Threat-1.0: Add greater salvation
01:59.44Funkeh`if i want threat ill donwload a different addon
01:59.56Funkeh`BORG addons = no
02:00.15dottedthen why make a Threat library then if only 1 addon is allowed to use it -.-
02:00.35AntiarcAny number of addons can use it...
02:00.35Nyrihttp://ace.pastey.net/41601
02:00.53Funkeh`one day someone might decide to make a different threat meter addon
02:00.54ckknightFunkeh`: if it's modular, not a big issue.
02:01.16ckknightdotted: your statement is extremely flawed.
02:01.17Funkeh`ckknight: its not really about that, its more about the addon description as a whole
02:01.30ckknightFunkeh`: *shrug* scope is important
02:01.32dottedit is :(?
02:01.52rubikAntiarc: having issues with sanity2 showing way off counts on items
02:01.53NightHawkTheSanescope is important, but entirely arbitrary.
02:02.18ckknightdotted: yes, it is.
02:02.30Wobinrofl at Nihil the Banished
02:02.36ckknightdotted: Omen may be the first mod that utilizes the library, but other mods aren't prevented
02:02.39Funkeh`well, its like downloading a fishing addon and getting a cooking addon, then its a tradeskill addon, not a fishing addon
02:02.44Antiarcrubik: Yeah, known bug, I've just been...distracted :)
02:03.10dottedwell maybe using the work allowed was not the right choice
02:03.12ckknightdotted: DogTag-1.0 is currently only used by PitBull, for instance, but it would pretty easily pop into agUF or any other UF if the author wants that
02:03.14dotted*word
02:03.28rubikk.. np.. wasn't sure if i was supposed to delete my SV sanity-related files when you split off the SanityItemCache or something
02:03.40AntiarcShouldn't need to. It's just a calculation bug.
02:04.03dottedi still think a threat module for violation is a good idea
02:04.07rubikheh.. have 3 stacks of mana pots in the same bag and it shows "has 5 in bag" instead of 15
02:04.11sbugoodnite, getting some sleep now ;o
02:04.22TecnoBratdotted, it is a good idea, and it could use the Threat library for the module
02:05.03TecnoBratthen the violation threat module, and Omen would be compatible to boot
02:05.31CIA-2203antiarc * r37060 10Omen/ (Libs/ Omen.toc): Omen: Updated libs so that you can use Threat embedded without any other dependencies. Yikes.
02:05.42sdoubleheh
02:06.31Funkeh`i disagree
02:06.35Funkeh`but it doesn't really matter
02:06.46Funkeh`http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=6341.0
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02:12.36dottedFunkeh` violation already does damage, healing, decursing, crit, then why not threat :S?
02:12.59Funkeh`i just don't like the idea of swstats and ktm jumbled into 1 addon
02:13.46Funkeh`same with dbm, it jumbles a bg addon, an agro addon, a boss mod addon, and auto handin addon into 1 thing
02:13.53Funkeh`same example
02:14.00dottednot really
02:14.02AntiarcIf it's modular, it shouldn't be an idea
02:14.05AntiarcSince you can just not use that module
02:14.06AntiarcErr
02:14.09Antiarcs/idea/problem.
02:14.35Funkeh`Diao we need a spell fixer that doesn't take 30 minutes
02:14.56NightHawkTheSaneAntiarc just messed up his substitution syntax.
02:16.35Diaohuh?
02:17.30AntiarcI did :P
02:17.49DiaoFunkeh`- ?
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02:18.43Funkeh`we need a script for correcting mistakes!
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02:18.58Diaolol
02:18.58Funkeh`since purl sucks
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02:21.45AntiarcWe want to know the what rank of the spell the player has, because most abilities have different numbers for different spell ranks. e.g. Heroic Strike does more damage and threat for each new rank. Some players will have the extra rank from AQ20, some will not. These ranks will probably not change over the course of a session, but we poll just in case.
02:21.51Antiarcdot dot effing dot.
02:22.26Diaoold.
02:22.52NightHawkTheSane"Hey guys, I found a warrior trainer in SSC, let me train up the last rank of HS in the middle of this hydross fight, since I'm a mouth breathing moron who couldn't do it when i first dinged 70"
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02:23.35AntiarcIf only there were some kind of notificatoin when the player learns a new spell rank
02:24.03ckknightwell, I've taken a shower
02:24.03Diaowell it sends a chat msg event
02:24.22ckknightAntiarc: lol?
02:24.48AntiarcDiao: I know. :P
02:25.00Diaolol
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02:27.43chutwigthe nethermancer boss in mechanar is ridiculously lame now
02:27.58Kirkburn|afkLol @ this - http://www.wowhead.com/?item=32727#z0z
02:28.16Kirkburn|afk(comments explain it)
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02:29.36CIA-2203antiarc * r37061 10Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0/ (ClassModules/Warrior.lua ThreatClassModuleCore.lua): Threat-1.0: Added Execute modifier to Warrior module. Added glove/back enchants to generic module.
02:29.55Diaoexecute has a modifier? o_o
02:30.01Antiarc1.25, according to KTM.
02:30.59Diaowtf
02:30.59Diaolol
02:32.47KeiasI've never seen that listed elsewhere
02:33.12kenlyric|homeyou need a module setup just for ktm values :)
02:33.23kenlyric|home"here's where the madeup shit and keyloggers go"
02:33.49ckknightAntiarc: want me to do an audit yet?
02:34.59Antiarcckknight: Wouldn't mind. I'm making a few core changes to deal with temporary flat threat changes, but it's a lot more solid than it was last night.
02:38.50Diaohm
02:38.52Diaoanother interesting thing
02:39.03Diaothe person who pulls the mob apparently is exempt
02:39.05Diaofrom the 10/30% threat rule
02:39.13snurreno, thats a myth
02:39.56AntiarcIt's a myth. They just have a small amount of aggro at that point, so it's easy to overcome.
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02:40.30Diaoeasily testable
02:41.38ckknightAntiarc: why do you store things in the modules so much, like .threatvalues for the warrior module. Couldn't it be a local table?
02:42.37ckknightalso, Antiarc, set your tab-size to 4, not 2
02:43.25Diaoi'll test the exemption in a bit
02:43.28AntiarcDoh
02:43.39AntiarcI guess they could be local tables, yes.
02:44.11AntiarcIs there any downside to storing them in the module?
02:44.36ckknightAntiarc: speed!
02:44.45AntiarcElaborate?
02:44.48rubikanyone try fishing since 2.1? what's up with fish biting on 21st second (i.e. you can't click bobber thingy since cast time is now 20 sec)
02:44.54rubikhappens every 5-6 casts
02:44.56ckknightAntiarc: local tables are faster
02:45.10a-stray-catckknight: i get this error when I try to get to the reputation menu in the pitbull options
02:45.12ckknightAntiarc: you put a lot of things on the module itself, that are just plain unnecessary
02:45.12a-stray-cat[2007/05/26 19:41:43-2033-x2]: Dewdrop-2.0: [Background] Handler "nil" not available:
02:45.20ckknighta-stray-cat: k
02:45.27ckknightAntiarc: myName
02:45.29ckknightAntiarc: parser
02:45.45kergothits good policy to make your data private unless you have a reason to make it public.. this is no exception
02:46.10ckknightright, kergoth
02:46.11AntiarcCan't disagree with that.
02:46.26AntiarcitemSets needs to be public, but it isn't used often at all.
02:47.07Antiarcself.parser is there for convenience, mostly, just so that modules already have a reference to it
02:47.09AntiarcmyName is cruft. :)
02:47.41ckknightso is parser
02:47.54ckknightlocal parser = ParserLib:GetInstance("1.1") is easy enough
02:48.40JoshBork2Antiarc: make a local reference to the module table, best of both worlds.  availability and speed
02:48.55JoshBork2kergoth: quit spreading lies and misinformation kergoth :P
02:49.04ckknightJoshBork2: NO U
02:49.17AntiarcFair enough
02:49.19kergothJoshBork2, but its fun :(
02:49.41JoshBork2ckknight: rewrite it and call it Aggo-1.0
02:49.48JoshBork2sounds like a guide or something
02:49.49kergothmy wow crashes when i minimize and restore it (fullscreen mode)
02:49.54kergothbut not every time
02:49.57kergothlike every 3rd restore
02:49.57Diaoblizzard error
02:50.00kergoth:(
02:50.00JoshBork2don't minimize it
02:50.03ckknightAntiarc: wtf is ThreatLib_CreateTempTableFuncs?
02:50.09JoshBork2(dual purpose of shutting you up too :P) ;P
02:50.10Diaoyou aren't allowed to alt-tab out of wow
02:50.17kergothhehe
02:50.25Diaounless you play windowed >.>
02:50.50AntiarcHeh, a really ugly hack I've carried with me from the beginnings of my wow addon development. Basically used for creating table recycling functions.
02:51.02ckknightAntiarc: that's going to go away, so you know.
02:51.10ckknightglobals are bad, m'kay
02:51.21Antiarc*grin*
02:51.32AntiarcBy all means, hacking and such are welcome.
02:51.53ckknightfirstly, I'm gonna make it so $Revision$ is correct.
02:52.13AntiarcIf you give me a moment, I'll do a commit, so you're working up to date.
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02:52.33ckknightk
02:52.34ZealotOnAStickkergoth: there's a post about it on the Blizzard forums.  
02:52.47ZealotOnAStickthe temporary workaround is something about setting your miplevels to 0
02:53.07boobies4uckknight
02:53.21ckknightboobies4u: leave me be
02:53.22boobies4uany news on the towers/bunker showing in cartographer
02:53.25ckknightno.
02:53.28boobies4uomg
02:53.30Primersucky
02:53.32boobies4u:(
02:53.35Primerthat's what I'm here for
02:53.36nymbialet the man shower! jeez! ;)
02:54.00boobies4udamn symbia
02:54.20Funkeh`NYMBIA
02:54.28nymbia~flee
02:54.43purlACTION runs away screaming
02:54.43Funkeh`<3
02:55.00Industrial</3 #wowace these days :<
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02:55.11Soleboobies4u: your name is dumb, change it
02:55.33ckknightInterCeptor-: what?
02:55.33KeiasTheir name gives me hope :(
02:55.34nymbiawhat's indie whining about?
02:55.40ckknighterr
02:55.46ckknightmeant Industrial
02:56.00CIA-2203antiarc * r37062 10Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0/ (5 files in 2 dirs): Threat-1.0: Moved some data tables to local tables. Changed buff/debuff calls so that they can affect threat both multiplicatively and additively. Beginnings of priest module.
02:56.32Wobinwyay
02:56.33Wobin70!
02:56.38Solegrats
02:56.46Soleonly took 5 months :P
02:57.03ZealotOnAStickHmm.
02:57.05ZealotOnAStickidHissyFit
02:57.39Wobinshould I respec shadow for the keying process?
02:57.56ZealotOnAStickDepends.
02:58.05nymbiaZealotOnAStick: rofl
02:58.27ZealotOnAStickAre you going to have other people that'll run all the instances with you sufficiently for you to just play healbot?
02:58.38ZealotOnAStickand the Shadowmoon quests, and . . .
02:59.33WobinI'll possibly have enough guildies to help me out
02:59.50Wobinand it's easier to pick up pugs as a healer =\
03:00.08WobinHow much is the normal flying mount + riding skill?
03:00.20ZealotOnAStick100 + 800
03:00.22Wobin><
03:00.31ZealotOnAStickepic's 5k and 200.
03:00.51KeiasYou'll get the 900g fast if you keep questing
03:00.57ZealotOnAStickand what annoys me greatly, is that you're required to have epic mount skill already before you can even  -start- the nether drake repeatables.
03:01.01NightHawkTheSaneyou mean you don't have 1k just from grinding to 70?
03:01.14nymbiai made 200 just today on the new quests
03:01.24nymbiain like an hour and a half
03:01.25Wobinat 70, though, yes? =P
03:01.43KeiasMy lock didn't have the cash when he hit 70 either :(
03:01.49KeiasCause I dumped it all into my shadowweave set
03:01.51nymbiai was only a thousand short of my epic when i hit 70
03:01.53NightHawkTheSaneo_0 how do you people do that :P
03:01.57AntiarcIs Mind Blast still double threat?
03:02.06WobinAntiarc: No
03:02.07KeiasAntiarc, I'm pretty sure they removed that with BC
03:02.14AntiarcThought so, but wasn't sure. Great.
03:02.21Kirkburn|afkdotted, come back! WoWWiki loves you really!
03:02.24ZealotOnAStickI haven't had time to work on the new quests yet.  Been busy raiding, and working on the web site.
03:02.30dottedno
03:02.35Kirkburn|afk:<
03:02.51Kirkburn|afkSky made me do it!
03:03.15dottedlies
03:03.16Kirkburn|afklol
03:03.56Kirkburn|afkYou don't have voice here, see how well we treat you?! :P
03:04.04CIA-2203antiarc * r37063 10Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0/ClassModules/Priest.lua: Threat-1.0: Priest module complete. I think.
03:04.18Kirkburn|afkThis lot don't appreciate you ... *me eyes this lot*
03:04.38dottedlol
03:04.43NightHawkTheSanethe feeling is mutual! er.. wait..
03:04.44ThisLotIt's true
03:04.45Antiarcck, update and hack at will.
03:04.47Kirkburn|afkYay, /me is happy again. And normal service can resume for #wowace. We apologise for this bump in procedings.
03:04.53ckknightAntiarc: blast.
03:04.56ckknightAntiarc: almost done
03:04.57Antiarc?
03:04.59AntiarcHeh, ok
03:05.06dottedwtf
03:05.31Kirkburn|afkNo, wait, ThisLot, or, uh *BOOM*
03:07.04NightHawkTheSanesleep sounds good.
03:07.10NightHawkTheSaneshame i only woke up like 8 hours ago
03:08.05AntiarcWhat class should I do next?
03:08.40TecnoBratPaladin
03:08.42AntiarcPriest, warrior, rogue done
03:08.47AntiarcHm. I don't know paladin threat mechanics at all.
03:08.56ckknightsteal from KTM?
03:09.03AntiarcI guess I could do that :P
03:09.20TecnoBrat50% threat on heals ... and then righteous fury effects holy dmg ... with a talent to increase it
03:09.21MorghusAntiarc, doing a KTM-type of addon, or just a library for others to do it?
03:09.26TecnoBratthose are the main ones :P
03:09.37SoleMorghus: the whole shebang
03:09.39ckknightMorghus: both, but lib and UI are separate
03:09.52ckknightwhich is a Good Thing(TM)
03:09.55MorghusNow THAT is awesome.
03:10.27ckknightI'm laying my hands on it now, to twist it further into perversion
03:10.30Antiarc*grin*
03:11.04MorghusThe Midas Touch, or The Sadim Touch ( where everything turns to poo) ?
03:11.41ckknightyour mom turns to poo
03:11.45ckknightfecaphilia ftw?
03:12.25Sole^ YES
03:12.30Kirkburn|sleepYou have a dirty mind and a dirty mom.
03:12.39Soleits genetic
03:13.42Kirkburn|sleepYou have a dirty mind, a dirty mom, possibly a dirty dad and dirty genepool.
03:13.55MorghusWhat would be really awesome would be an additional addon where you could see the direct threat-calculation of your attacks.
03:14.01SoleI like dirty pools
03:14.15SoleMorghus: asplain a bit more
03:14.30MorghusTheorycraft, version Threatcraft
03:14.32TecnoBratso you can optimize how much threat you generate?
03:14.40ckknightyes, TecnoBrat
03:14.49CIA-2203ckknight * r37064 10Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0/ (10 files in 2 dirs):
03:14.49CIA-22Threat-1.0 - now every file has a revision number, the highest will be used (so
03:14.49CIA-22that if Rogue.lua is changed, the number is bumped properly). Registration is at
03:14.49CIA-22the end, happens in Threat-1.0-Cleanup.lua. Also properly makes sure not to load
03:14.50CIA-22old versions and such.
03:14.55SoleMorghus: as in display the individual threat values per ability?
03:15.13MorghusTo display how much threat is affected by strength and such, yes.
03:15.16AntiarcDoes Shadow Affinity affect the value of Fade?
03:15.25nekohAntiarc: as a sidenote, the warrior taunt does not set the threat to the the amount of the one, that has the most threat, but the one, that has the aggro (only if the own threat is lower), but i guess for the first implementation, yours is doing fine, keep up the work :P
03:15.32MorghusIt would probably be more work than use though
03:15.42Antiarcnekoh: Oh, that's true. Thanks.
03:15.55TecnoBratnekoh, thats an important distinction
03:16.06TecnoBratand effects the values greatly, heh
03:16.43bigzeroI get the following error when trying to hook onto a function. "attempt to call field 'DressUpItemLink' (a nil value)". anyone know why? Here's the code I'm using: /script local h=AceLibrary("AceAddon-2.0"):new("AceHook-2.1");h:SecureHook("DressUpItemLink",function(...) message(...) end)
03:16.49TecnoBrathense why taunting when you have aggro doesn nothing at all.
03:16.56SoleMorghus: if my head could get around what youre trying to explain I could try doing that :P
03:17.17SoleAntiarc: using ParserLib-1.1?
03:17.35AntiarcSole: Yes
03:17.52SoleAntiarc: dont like Parser-3.0? :P
03:18.01MorghusSole: Just a simple addition to your tooltip for i.e. Maul and Heroic Strike showing the amount of threat that attack would generate.
03:18.29KeiasSo kinda like a TheoryCraft for threat?
03:18.41AntiarcSole: It didnt' do what I wanted
03:18.47Morghushaha. I said that earlier :P
03:19.27SoleAntiarc: fair enough
03:19.41SoleMorghus: ahh, thats way easy :P
03:20.01snurreadd threat per second and rage at the same time then :p
03:20.13MorghusRage?
03:20.19snurrethreat per rage
03:20.23MorghusAh.
03:20.52CIA-2203ckknight * r37065 10Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0/ (Threat-1.0.lua ThreatBuffsData.lua): Threat-1.0 - make ThreatInitData a field of Threat-1.0 instead of global
03:21.08Soledo people really care about TPR though?
03:21.11MorghusOn that note I really miss Theorycraft. Last time I tried it it spammed me with errors. Was a great addon
03:21.23Soleget DrDamage then
03:21.32MorghusDrDamage works for melee too now?
03:21.38KeiasDon't think so.
03:21.52NightHawkTheSanethreat per rage isn't that useful, it's more or less static
03:22.26NightHawkTheSaneplus it completely disregards white damage threat
03:23.14MorghusOn that note, you could add white damage threat as the base modifier?
03:24.26MorghusErrr... *make
03:25.14MorghusMeh. Too tired for thinking about tanking and threat now :P
03:25.53MorghusBut I do know alot of people could -really- do with a tooltip listing of abilities threat.
03:26.36bigzeroTPR would be useful to see what abilities you should use to build up threat...though on boss fights tanks have like unlimited threat anyway
03:27.40NightHawkTheSaneyou should know that ahead of time. as i said, threat per rage is basically static.
03:27.42MorghusI was about to say that, but in any case TPS, and TPR would be neat additions.
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03:27.53snurreits more useful as a secondary tank than as MT
03:27.54kebinusan_TPS especially
03:28.00snurrewhen you have to build threat without getting infinte rage
03:28.14NightHawkTheSanethreat per second is useful because it's actually influenced by gear/buffs.
03:28.31snurreTPR for stuff like devastate and shieldslam
03:31.01CIA-2203ckknight * r37066 10Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0.lua:
03:31.01CIA-22Threat-1.0 - replace the funky table recycling mechanism with my own,
03:31.01CIA-22ThreatLib.new, .newHash, .newSet, and .del are available for the modules to use
03:31.01CIA-22until registration (at which point the modules would've done local new =
03:31.01CIA-22ThreatLib.new and such).
03:32.33CIA-2203ckknight * r37067 10Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0.lua: Threat-1.0 - localize the custom sort function
03:32.42MorghusSole: A DrDamage for melee would be <3 ;)
03:32.57SoleMorghus: are you trying to tell me something? :P
03:33.28NightHawkTheSaneSole: do it or we'll break you're kneecaps.
03:33.38XuerianWee, ck's picked up a new project :p
03:33.42Morghus*blinks innocently* Nooooo, I wouldn't dare do such a thing!
03:33.48NightHawkTheSanei would :D
03:33.52SoleNightHawkTheSane: psht, I dont them anyway
03:34.17NightHawkTheSanedon't waht them? like? use? need? eat? bathe with?
03:34.20Soleyou know whats cool? I can pop my kneecaps out
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03:34.35kenlyric|homeSole: that's no so impressive.
03:34.48kenlyric|homeSole: getting them back into place would be special.
03:34.50NightHawkTheSaneSole: yeah, so? i can pop your kneecaps out too ;)
03:34.57Solerofl
03:35.00SoleI can pop them back in too
03:35.15NightHawkTheSaneoh, i don't know if i can do that.
03:35.27CIA-2203ckknight * r37069 10Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0.lua: Threat-1.0 - bugfix
03:35.41ckknightXuerian: I just don't like Kenco
03:35.47Soleok well its not like I can pop them out and twist em round my leg then pop em back in
03:35.48Morghuslol ck
03:35.57Xuerianckknight: As good a motivation as any :p
03:35.57dottedlol
03:35.59SoleI think theyre double jointed or something
03:36.16ckknightall my projects are very reactionary. I have no original substance, I just steal other people's ideas and make them better, in order to stick it to them out of spite
03:36.33ckknightit's like, ha, I took your idea and did it so much better than you, you piece of shit
03:36.43Solespeaking of which, I dont think anything Ive done anything original either
03:36.57Soleits always been writing my own implementation of a good idea executed poorly
03:36.59ckknightinnovation is overrated.
03:37.00anenigmackknight: So .. you're working on the new+improved WoW then? :P
03:37.06MorghusImprove ItemRack ck ;)
03:37.09ckknightanenigma: lol, no, too big a project
03:37.13ckknightMorghus: I have no need.
03:37.26ckknightalthough it would be nice to give Gello the smackdown
03:37.33Soleckknight: which languages do you know? Im just curious
03:37.39ckknightcomputer languages?
03:37.41SoleI thought Gello was a nice guy
03:37.45ckknightoh, he is
03:37.46Soleprogramming languages, yes
03:37.50MorghusGello's been pretty gone for a while now though. Really good guy :)
03:38.55ckknightSole: I know about ≈20 programming languages
03:38.57ckknightgive or take
03:39.06Soleckknight: O_O
03:39.32MorghusFor me, the newb, that looks like code for "assloads" :p
03:39.36AntiarcWhat's the most esoteric you know, ck?
03:40.10Solewhats the opinion on java in this channel? theres a bunch of work for java programmers here in NZ but to me its always had the impression of being overly complex and clunky
03:40.32ckknightAntiarc: brainfuck, obviously
03:40.36ckknightAntiarc: but I don't count that.
03:40.48ckknightSole: I have a NZ passport
03:41.01Soleckknight: you lived here?
03:41.10ckknightnope, dad was born there
03:41.15ckknightonly cost me $50 to get citizenship
03:41.27bigzerolol
03:41.27ckknightI'm an American now, though
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03:42.34Solelol
03:42.40MorghusSole: It does sound like a good idea though, no? You know, SurgeryDamage, DrDamage for melee ( or enter 835434 cheesy names :P )
03:42.48Solegood thing bout an NZ/Aus passport is with 1, you get access to both countries
03:42.48CIA-2203sutorix * r37070 10FishingAce/FishingAce.toc: FishingAce: Update toc
03:43.43AntiarcRocketSurgery
03:43.50Soleyeah I could do something like that
03:44.01Soleso whats the opinion on java?
03:44.31snurreNinjaWizard
03:44.34MorghusS'good'n a brew, but I prefer standard Norwegian Friele.
03:44.39Morghus;P
03:44.59WobinSole: I'd say come work in Sydney
03:45.04WobinBut the cost of living is insane =)
03:45.09WobinThen again, Java sucks
03:45.53CIA-2203sutorix * r37071 10FuBar_FishingBuddyFu/FuBar_FishingBuddyFu.toc: FuBar_FishingBuddyFu: update toc
03:46.01CIA-2203ckknight * r37072 10Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0/ (9 files in 2 dirs): Threat-1.0 - fix issue with ThreatLib upvalue.
03:46.02ckknightSole: I have Canadian, American, and NZ citizenship
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03:46.16SoleWobin: thats all Ive been hearing, java sucks. And no way in hell Im goin to sydney
03:46.28SoleBrisbane, yes, sydney - probably not
03:46.36Solemelbourne - mabe
03:46.39ckknightSole: with Java, a 50-line program is a software-engineering project.
03:46.44Wobinmelbourne is a hole
03:46.49ckknightSole: and it's more verbose than it needs to be
03:46.51WobinBrisbane ... meh
03:47.02Solewhat makes syd better over brissy?
03:47.05MorghusIsn't java cross-platform?
03:47.10Soleckknight: thats what Ive heard also
03:47.13ckknightyes, Morghus
03:47.18ckknightSole: I've worked with Java.
03:47.24WobinSole: More metropolitan
03:47.24ckknightSole: it's so true.
03:47.32ckknightSole: and it's too rooted in acadamia
03:47.38ckknightacademia*
03:47.38MorghusThink that's why people use it, because it's cross-platform. That's an impression though :)
03:47.42CIA-2203funkydude * r37073 10Omen/ (. Libs/): Omen: hopefully fix externals so that the no-ext zips are created properly
03:47.43Solebut isnt C++ similiar, in terms of code required to achieve a simple thing
03:47.45CIA-2203sutorix * r37074 10ClosetGnome_Fishing/ClosetGnome_Fishing.toc: ClosetGnome_Fishing: update toc
03:47.46WobinSole: And we got better stuff
03:47.56SoleWobin: lol I like that justification
03:47.59WobinSole: That's why you use C# instead
03:48.11ckknightSole: they refuse to add useful features like properties and such, so feature-wise, C# has the upper hand by a long shot, and it's in the same problem domain
03:48.13Sole'Stuff' is what me and my brother called our porn folders on our computer
03:48.22Soleso by stuff youre reffering to the women, amirite?
03:48.42Wobinhm
03:49.00Wobinhttp://www.faceoftomorrow.com/sydney.asp
03:49.10MorghusI actually thought the same Sole :P
03:50.32Soleckknight: so youre saying C# > C++/Java?
03:50.49WobinI do
03:50.56MorghusWobin: Those female composites are scarily good-looking :O
03:51.02WobinAren't they?
03:51.11CIA-2203ckknight * r37075 10Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0-Cleanup.lua: Threat-1.0 - make Cleanup file work with versioning properly
03:51.13ckknightSole: featurewise, yes, definitely, I'm saying that.
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03:51.15WobinIt's like the ultimate photoshop airbrush job
03:51.31MorghusNo shit. The Bondi Beach female composite was really "Wow...?"
03:51.47Morghus*reads more*
03:52.06WobinAnd you can so see the features in the actual live photos
03:52.07kbhyo who uses tooltipexchange here?
03:52.46MorghusWobin: Checked out the big poster-version and zoomed in?
03:53.12Wobinoh wow
03:53.16Wobinthat's a lot of detail
03:53.35SoleI dont know much about the subject, but is the only difference between say VB and VB.NET is .NET has a bunch of internet/web/server related functions?
03:54.01Wobin.net is the framework
03:54.01kenlyric|homeseems kinda faked.
03:54.08WobinI guess it's like lua and Ace2 =)
03:54.15kenlyric|homethere's too much perfection in the shape of the mouth on both.
03:54.43Nargiddleyvb.net is alot different from vb6, its basicly just syntax thats been kept
03:54.53Wobinhates it, my precious
03:54.54snurreDragonmaw Race: Captain Skyshatter is a motherfucking piece of shit quest
03:54.54Nargiddleyvb.net is more like c# than vb6
03:54.59Morghuskenlyric|home: I found the mouth too blurred down, but the result is really nice
03:55.02Wobinbut not close enough =P
03:55.30CIA-2203antiarc * r37076 10Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0/ (ClassModules/Priest.lua license.txt): Threat-1.0: Made priest threat reduction talents actually do something. Added license.
03:55.50SoleNargiddley: thanks :)
03:55.56Wobinactually in regards to Sydney having better stuff, it's more along the lines of that there's more to do and see here than in Brisbane
03:56.07Wobin(Which has Dream World and Movie world, and that's about it)
03:56.19snurre<-- going to melbourne soon o.O
03:56.23MorghusWobin: The downside to having more "stuff" is that you spend more money ;)
03:56.37WobinWell, I did say our cost of living was high
03:56.45WobinWe have the best food here =)
03:56.57snurreits for a good reason tho.. girls :p
03:56.58WobinOut of everywhere I've travelled in the world, Sydney still has the best food
03:57.16Solefriends of ours recently went to sydney for a week, they said the people arent nice :P
03:57.23kenlyric|homeso, in all, no matter what, you'll like what you eat.
03:57.23Soleso youre not nice Wobin
03:57.27WobinIt's true
03:57.28MorghusIsn't Sydney-food pretty ... worldy? =P
03:57.32WobinI'm a meany face
03:57.32kenlyric|home;)
03:57.36Solebut then again
03:57.37WobinMorghus: To say the least =)
03:57.58Solelots of australians love to be mean
03:58.00WobinThe reason why our food is so good is because we're all horribly racist at heart =P
03:58.09MorghusWobin practices being mean in front of the mirror every day.
03:58.15Wobin*grr argh*
03:58.18Soleits true, aussies are racist
03:58.21SoleEVEN TO WHITE PEOPLE!
03:58.25WobinIt's true =)
03:58.29WobinWe root for the underdog
03:58.36Wobinand put it down at the same time
03:58.37Soleyou mean australia?
03:58.41MorghusSole, the good side is that everyone loves their accent
03:58.45SoleMorghus: haha
03:58.47WobinToo right =)
03:58.53MorghusNah, that's the downunderdog
03:58.59kenlyric|homenope, NZ > OZ
03:59.05Wobinizzat so bru?
03:59.05kbhunderbog??
03:59.11SoleNZ > OZ? what makes you say that?
03:59.16SoleNZ is pretty damn boring
03:59.18WobinSex pucks ov fush n chups
03:59.21kenlyric|homethe accent.
03:59.24Morghuskenlyric|home: The average person out in the world doesn't know the difference :P
03:59.25Soleahh
03:59.28Soleluckily for me
03:59.31Nargiddley:D
03:59.33WobinI find the NZ accent amusing =)
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03:59.40SoleI can have an NZ accent, OZ accent or US accent on demand :)
03:59.45kenlyric|homeMorghus: I do, the NZ one makes my pants hot.
04:00.02WobinIf I speak to anyone with an accent, I tend to talk in that accent within a few minutes
04:00.06Sole+ I speak russian, so thats cool I guess
04:00.15WobinRussian is always cool
04:00.24SoleI was born in ukraine, but most people here think Im american
04:00.37MorghusRussian, Scottish and Irish = Win
04:00.41Soletrue
04:00.43WobinYou should have heard me after my trip to the UK. After passing through London, Scotland and Ireland...
04:00.54Solehahah I can imagine
04:01.00WobinNobody believed I was a tourist =(
04:01.17MorghusYou should have done more touristy things
04:01.24WobinI had to think so hard to figure out how to do an aussie accent =P
04:01.31MorghusTake pictures, act japanese, point at the mountains and gape
04:01.36WobinKAWAIII!
04:01.40CIA-2203gagorian * r37077 10Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0/ClassModules/Warlock.lua:
04:01.40CIA-22Threat-1.0:
04:01.40CIA-22- Warlock module first draft
04:01.41WobinCHEEEZU!
04:01.46kenlyric|homethe mountains in london would be difficult.
04:01.50WobinThis is true
04:02.00Morghuskenlyric|home: Not for the professional tourist!
04:02.06WobinI -do- like the mountains in NZ
04:02.16WobinSouth Island is so very, very, very pretty
04:02.23Soleit is
04:02.31Solethe women here are so not very, very pretty
04:02.35Wobin=(
04:02.36MorghusNZ is like a meltingpot of stuff. I thought a picture of NZ was of Norway for a few seconds.
04:02.38Soledont get me wrong, theres some stunners
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04:02.40WobinLook harder at the mountains =)
04:02.49Solebut theres a lot of bleh girls :(
04:02.56WobinThat's true anywhere
04:03.00kenlyric|homeI don't care how they look.
04:03.04kenlyric|homeThey sound awesome.
04:03.07Soleaussie is better off wobin
04:03.15WobinI like Nigella Lawson's accent
04:03.22Wobinshe makes me feel all warm and gooey inside
04:03.26Wobin-and- she can cook!
04:03.40MorghusSole: That's because all the goodlooking chicks run off to Australia do take advantage of it, while the less fortunate stay at home and work hard
04:03.40Solewow
04:03.40Morghus:P
04:03.49SoleWHY DO ALMOST ALL BRITISH GIRLS HAVE HUGE BONKERS?
04:03.51SoleI LOVE IT
04:03.59WobinJust don't look at their teeth
04:04.03Soleyeah
04:04.07MorghusBonkers, which part would that be again? =P
04:04.13WobinBodacious Tatas
04:04.25MorghusCool word.
04:04.44WobinAlthough, if it's based off what I think it is, wouldn't Bodeccia have chopped off one of her tatas?
04:04.48Solemilk jugs
04:04.49WobinSo it'd be Bodacious Ta
04:05.09CIA-2203antiarc * r37078 10Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0/ClassModules/Warlock.lua: Threat-1.0: Add the out of date check, only load if the player is indeed a warlock.
04:05.11WobinGazongas?
04:05.12Soleso Ive been trying to put 3 items up for sale in this NZ auction site
04:05.19Soleand its taken me 2 hours so far
04:05.27SoleI win at getting distracted
04:05.34NightHawkTheSaneBOOBIES!!1
04:05.42Wobin<3 Machall
04:05.47SoleMachall?
04:06.01NightHawkTheSaneif by machall you  mean applegeeks, then yeah
04:06.03MorghusNightHawkTheSane says "BOOBIES!!1", and Sole is distracted for another hour
04:06.47Wobinyeah =)
04:07.09MorghusCrap. Gotta hit bed. Good night folks. Sole, SurgeryDoctor's a good name! /hintstop
04:07.10Morghus:P
04:07.22Soledood
04:07.25SoleIve got Gladiator to finish!
04:07.41MorghusBut but but... what about my needs!? *wails*
04:07.42SoleIm in the process of implementing a couple things to make it look purtier
04:07.50NightHawkTheSaneSole: but.... but.. boobies.
04:07.50Solequiet woman!
04:07.56SoleNightHawkTheSane: big ones?
04:08.01NightHawkTheSaneif you like
04:10.17SoleI like firm
04:10.23Solebut not too small
04:11.41Sedaianyone know of a good bug mod
04:11.52Sedaii get so many bugs i need to find out what they are etc
04:11.56Wobinbugsack?
04:12.09Sole^
04:12.15NightHawkTheSane^^
04:12.36Soleaww man, my neck, shoulders, arms and ankle all hurt
04:12.38Soleits no fun
04:12.44NightHawkTheSanei can fix that.
04:13.00NightHawkTheSanei have to warn you though, your kneecaps may, temporarily, be in blistering pain.
04:13.38Soleits ok, one of my knee joints is messed up anyway
04:14.03Solerugby ftw - had a guy thrown at my knee front on :(
04:14.50TemWhat's Gladiator do?
04:15.16Sedaiwhat is dewdrop?
04:15.31SoleGladiator is an arena frame addon. Monitors the health of your arena opponents
04:16.20NightHawkTheSaneSedai: read the description?
04:16.31kenlyric|homeSole: and you wonder why you can disjoint them?
04:16.33Sedaiyeah nm
04:16.54SoleTem: it also reads Tattle data to display talent point distribution, opposing team rating/rank
04:17.00Solehowever Tattle data isnt live ;(
04:17.12Solekenlyric|home: well I can do it to both, and only my right one had the guy thrown at it
04:17.16ckknightMorghus: NZ a melting pot?
04:17.28Solekenlyric|home: plus a bunch of my other joints pop stuff in/out
04:17.44Solepeople always think they break my wrist when they shake my hand teeheehee
04:18.32CIA-2203gagorian * r37079 10Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0/ClassModules/Warlock.lua: Threat-1.0: - Warlock Module: Shadow ward threat is between 57.7 and 59.4 -> ~58
04:20.51CIA-2203antiarc * r37080 10Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0/ClassModules/Warlock.lua: Threat-1.0: Fix for exempt gains in locales that include spaces in the spell name.
04:22.12TecnoBrathmmm HonorFu error ...
04:22.12TecnoBrat[2007/05/26 21:16:06-1396-x1]: FuBar_HonorFu-2.0.33618\HonorFu.lua:353: attempt to index local 'button' (a nil value)
04:22.13TecnoBrat(tail call): ?:
04:22.13TecnoBrat<string>:"*:OnShow":2: in function <[string "*:OnShow"]:1>
04:22.23TecnoBratdamn wasnt supposed to be multi line
04:22.24TecnoBratsorry
04:22.31Funkeh`~blame nymbia
04:22.47purlACTION blames nymbia (and Canada) for all the evil in the world
04:23.15Soleblame canada
04:23.35Soles/canada/canadia
04:23.46Solewhats the command to fix a typo?
04:23.54NightHawkTheSane<PROTECTED>
04:24.30Soles/command/lolol/
04:24.35SoleI see!
04:24.52NightHawkTheSanesyntax is important, if you miss that trailing slash purl wont do it
04:26.01CIA-2203stormfx * r37081 10cyCircled/skins.lua:
04:26.01CIA-22cyCircled:
04:26.01CIA-22- New Skin: Serenity Classic (N00bZXI)
04:26.28CIA-2203ckknight * r37082 10FuBar_HonorFu/HonorFu.lua: FuBar_HonorFu - hack to prevent bugs. not actually fixed.
04:26.51ckknightSole: you're a complete asshole
04:27.01ckknights/complete asshole/fine gentleman/
04:27.17Sole~stab ckknight
04:27.37purlACTION runs at ckknight with an origami Swiss Army knife, and inflicts a nasty paper cut.
04:27.38Funkeh`lol
04:27.38ckknight~depants Sole
04:27.44purlACTION grabs and pulls down Sole's pants, leaving them strewn about the ankles like the typical sorority girl's panties.
04:27.44Sole~whalestab ckknight
04:27.46purlACTION stabs ckknight with a rather narrow and pointy whale named Montgomery
04:27.56Solepurl, you suck
04:27.57purland very well I might add
04:29.18NightHawkTheSane~~~
04:29.29purlI HATE YOU, nighthawkthesane!!!
04:29.30CIA-2203cryect * r37083 10Recount/ (Recount.lua Tracker.lua): Recount - Improves on tick performance
04:29.37NightHawkTheSane:D
04:31.02evlwookieanyone use baggins?
04:31.09Kyahx<--
04:31.13NightHawkTheSaneaye
04:31.20evlwookiehow much ram on avg does it use for u?
04:31.46Sole~~~
04:32.05purlI HATE YOU, sole!!!
04:32.06Kyahxmore than I want, but meh
04:32.10NightHawkTheSanea good bit.. maybe a 1-2mb
04:32.15SoleI HATE YOU, purl!!!
04:32.26evlwookieonly 1-2? ... mines using 6-7 lol :/
04:32.32Kyahxmines like 3
04:32.45NightHawkTheSanei run disembedded, so that might affect it, but *shrug*
04:32.47CIA-2203antiarc * r37084 10Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0/ (ClassModules/Priest.lua ThreatClassModuleCore.lua): Threat-1.0: Fixed Fade. Modded the core to allow for temporary threat spikes/suppression via buffs.
04:32.52evlwookiehrm
04:32.53KyahxI don't diembed
04:33.03Kyahxand baggins is my third biggest, at 3mb
04:33.39evlwookieits my largest at 6.70 at the moment
04:34.02NightHawkTheSanethere's a number of potential reasons for that *shrug*
04:34.16Kyahxlots of weird filters?
04:34.17CIA-2203antiarc * r37085 10Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0/ClassModules/Priest.lua: Threat-1.0: Shadow spells need to be reduced by Shadow Affinity, not Silent Resolve.
04:34.36NightHawkTheSanememory usage isnt that big of a deal as much as memory churn and cpu usage though. if it uses 6ish and stays there the entire time, thats not really a big problem
04:34.44CIA-2203ckknight * r37086 10Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0/ (Threat-1.0.lua ThreatClassModuleCore.lua): Threat-1.0 - ThreatLib.inCombat is kept up to date, preventing unneeded calls to InCombatLockdown
04:35.15NightHawkTheSaneKyahx: yeah, that, also if you have libs embedded baggins may be being credited for their mem usage depending on how stuff loads, i'm not entirely clear on that.
04:38.28CIA-2203gagorian * r37087 10Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0/ClassModules/Warlock.lua: Threat-1.0: - Warlock Module: Added threat for shadow ward ranks 1-3
04:38.41AntiarcHm. What's the recommended method for detecting overheal?
04:39.19CryectUnitMaxHealth(unit)-UnitHealth(unit)
04:39.29CryectTHen subtract that from the heal amount
04:39.38CryectThere is examples in Violation or Recount
04:39.43ckknightAntiarc: Parser-3.0 does that automatically, check how that does it
04:39.52AntiarcAh, UnitHealth() isn't updated before the event fires then?
04:40.00CryectRight
04:40.08AntiarcExcellent./
04:40.39NightHawkTheSane"I once sailed with a geezer, lost both of is arms an part of his eye." "What'd you call him?" "... larry."
04:41.27ckknightoh man, losing both my arms would suck
04:41.33ckknightbut I'd get by, I think
04:42.16CIA-2203cryect * r37088 10Recount/GUI_Graph.lua: Recount - Tells you the spacing of the X Gridlines now on the graph
04:43.48Soleckknight: that would mean you couldnt code
04:43.55Soleyou sure youd get by?
04:44.06ckknightI'm good with my feet
04:44.08CIA-2203ckknight * r37089 10Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0/ThreatClassModuleCore.lua: Threat-1.0 - register the specialevents aura stuff to methods instead of intermediary functions.
04:44.19Solewhat bout masturbating?
04:44.27Nargiddley3mb doesnt sound too far off for baggins, all the item frames add up quickly
04:44.55NightHawkTheSaneckknight could probably score pity sex.
04:45.17ckknightyea, go with the pity sex
04:45.59Solelol
04:47.18ckknightwow, Parser-1.1's API sucks worse than I thought...
04:47.24ckknightick.
04:48.09XuerianGonna just have to give in and build the missing functionality into 3.0, huh? :p
04:48.26NightHawkTheSane"Those aren't pieces of eight, they're just pieces of junk." "Aye, the first plan was to use nine pieces of eight to bind calypso, but when the first court met the bretheren were skint broke." "SO change the name?" "To what, the nine pieces of whatever-we-happened-to-have-in-our-pockets-at-the-time? Oh yes, that'd sound very piratey."
04:48.47Kyahx:)
04:48.49CIA-2203funkydude * r37090 10BigWigs/TheEye/Kaelthas.lua: BigWigs: TheEye/Kaelthas: add Phoenix Rebirth timers
04:49.10Antiarcckknight: If Parser-3.0 can do gains, I'll switch to it.
04:49.18ckknightXuerian: that has been the plan for a while, nobody's told me what specifically is missing
04:49.20ckknightgains?
04:49.23ckknightwhat do you mean gains?
04:49.29AntiarcYou gain X mana/energy/rage, etc
04:49.34ckknightwill do.
04:49.49ckknightactually
04:49.58Cryecthehe
04:50.01ckknightbefore anyone switches to it, I may want to audit it and possibly change it so things are easier/better
04:50.04dottedwhere is 2.0?
04:50.16ckknightdotted: lost in SVN madness
04:50.20dotted:(
04:50.23ckknight2.0 was Parser-1.1 in Ace2 form
04:50.26ckknightso I made 3.0
04:50.31ckknightcause the versions are very different
04:50.32NightHawkTheSaneckknight: make a thread asking just that? Also, since it just occurred to me, i think someone mentioned that 3.0 doesn't handle player/creature death?
04:50.38CryectIt really needs death checks etc
04:50.43ckknightwill do
04:50.48ckknightI should make a wiki page.
04:50.49CIA-2203gagorian * r37091 10Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0/ClassModules/Warlock.lua: Threat-1.0: - Warlock Module: Mana gained from Drain Soul (from imp. drain soul) does cause threat
04:50.57CryectYeah ands buffs/debuffs
04:51.00AntiarcMan, the warlock module is going to be badass.
04:51.07Cryecthas all that then lot of stuff could convert
04:51.15ZealotOnAStickYou got dark pact in there?
04:51.25CIA-2203ckknight * r37092 10Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0/ThreatClassModuleCore.lua: Threat-1.0 - optimizations
04:51.38GagorianZealotOnAStick: Yeah, kind of. Mana gained * 0.5
04:51.48GagorianShould be stantard mana gain threat
04:51.52Gagorian*standard
04:52.16dottedso at this rate
04:52.28dottedwhen will Threat-1.0 be done :D?
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04:52.54ulictomorrow :)
04:52.57AntiarcWhen it's done!
04:53.02dottedthought so
04:53.04ulicnever seen such a flurry of commits
04:53.08dottedlies Antiarc :((
04:53.12Killmoredotted: Soon ----> http://www.wowwiki.com/Soon
04:53.15AntiarcGagorian: You don't need to do special threat for mana gains
04:53.21AntiarcThat's already handled in the general case
04:53.23GagorianAntiarc: I know
04:53.28GagorianThat's why I said kind of
04:53.37Gagorian[07:53:19] <Gagorian> Should be stantard mana gain threat
04:53.39Gagorian[07:53:23] <Gagorian> *standard
04:53.39Gagorian:)
04:53.46Antiarcaha, ok, I misunderstood
04:54.09dottedlol
04:54.09Antiarc...
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04:54.16Antiarcpwnt imo.
04:54.17hyperChipmunkROFL
04:54.19dottednub Diao
04:54.21Gagorian:D
04:54.21Diaowhoa
04:54.23Diaowrong hotkey
04:54.32Diaomy script has f2 on ping channel :(
04:54.33hyperChipmunksomeone pushed the wrong button eh?
04:54.35Gagorian-_-
04:54.41Diaoand i alttabbed as i was pressing f2 to target party member lol
04:54.51Gagoriannow just a quick trip to verify banish threat
04:55.00Gagorianthen I'll be done for the evening
04:57.00ZealotOnAStickhave fear threat values?
04:57.02hyperChipmunkAntiarc: lemme know if you need any help with hunter stuff
04:57.07CIA-2203antiarc * r37093 10Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0/ThreatClassModuleCore.lua: Threat-1.0: As much as this addon may be inspired by KTM, we really shouldn't be checking threat only when we're out of combat.
04:57.08hyperChipmunkmisdirection, etc
04:57.17AntiarchyperChipmunk: I'd really, really appreciate that
04:57.24AntiarcI understand hunters decently, but not as well as rogues/wars
04:57.39Cryectmisdirection is so broken right now :-p
04:57.42hyperChipmunkrighto; just lemme know whachoo need
04:57.52Cryector have they hotfixed it yet
04:57.58CIA-2203durcyn * r37094 10cyCircled/skins.lua: cyCircled: minor syntax fix
04:58.01Funkeh`no
04:58.03AntiarcWell, you can write the whole module if you want >_>
04:58.04Funkeh`its broken to shit
04:58.09hyperChipmunk=) yay
04:58.20Cryectso nice the aggro goes right back to the hunter when misdirection is used up :_p
04:58.28hyperChipmunkah haaaaa
04:58.34hyperChipmunkthat explains a lot
04:58.35hyperChipmunk=P
04:58.50Funkeh`not when you are trying to get a vashj kill
04:58.53Cryectyeah for some reason its only giving it temp to your target till the buff vanishes and it shifts back to you >_>
04:59.12XuerianAt which point it's OSHITFEIGN? :p
04:59.50NightHawkTheSaneCryect: thats so awesome
05:01.09Diaooh it does?
05:01.14Diaointeresting
05:01.35Cryectyou have to really wonder what blizzard does to create bugs like that
05:01.53TecnoBratSaroz ping?
05:01.53Cryectprolly decided hunters were too useful in raids
05:02.11CIA-2203ckknight * r37095 10Parser-3.0/Parser-3.0/Parser-3.0.lua: Parser-3.0 - make the _ne modifier _not, as it makes more sense. This is backwards-compatible.
05:03.23AntiarcBleh. Parser-1.1 only gives your target name when you heal, so I'll have to use Roster or my own roster manager to correlate that to unit IDs
05:03.23AntiarcWhat a pain
05:03.39CryectWell why would a parser give you the unit?
05:03.43ckknightI think Parser-3.0 give you a unitID
05:03.47AntiarcBecause I wants it!
05:03.50ckknightgives*
05:03.56ckknightit makes things easier, Cryect
05:04.16CryectWell I guess it doesn't have it because Rophy didn't need it for SCL
05:04.47AntiarcI guess I'll just hack a little roster manager in for now.
05:04.58Funkeh`sct uses it though?
05:05.18CryectIts not real hard to find the UnitID though shrug
05:05.18SoleParser-3.0 is pretty easy to use
05:05.31Cryectthe problem isn't is it easy to use
05:05.34Cryectits the stuff its missing
05:05.54Funkeh`can always ask rophy to add it
05:06.18CryectHeh doubt he's going to user Parser 3.0 for heals and 1.1 for deaths :-p
05:06.26Funkeh`lol
05:06.47AntiarcHahah
05:06.49SoleRophy sounds mean, every time I hear him talking ...so I wouldnt go asking him
05:07.05Funkeh`lol
05:07.12ckknightAntiarc: I'm adding in your death stuffs
05:07.12Cryecthaha
05:07.26AntiarcI need power gains, not deaths :P
05:07.34Soleshould I have Feign Death detection in gladiator?
05:07.53SoleI havent seen it work yet, and its stopping me from making the addon as a whole more optimized :(
05:07.53CryectWell you need deaths also for resetting to 0?
05:08.18CIA-2203gagorian * r37096 10Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0/ClassModules/Warlock.lua: Threat-1.0: - Warlock Module: Rank 2 banish does between 100.37 and 102.7 threat = ~102
05:08.23ckknightAntiarc: doesn't Parser-3.0 have that?
05:08.31AntiarcI didn't see it before - I'll look again
05:08.58Cryectyes it does
05:09.01AntiarcOh, looks like it does.
05:09.02Cryectlook under notification
05:09.08Cryectunfortunatelly
05:09.15Cryectit doesn't tell you what type of power gain
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05:09.22ckknightunless...
05:09.29Mikkheya ck
05:09.32Mikkhttp://ace.pastey.net/41686
05:09.34ckknighthey Mikk
05:09.35CryectIs it the effectName or abilityName?
05:09.41Mikk^ working secure buttons in dewdrop
05:09.51ckknightI'll check it over in a bit
05:09.59Solewhen a unit dies, does the UNIT_HEALTH fire at 0% health?
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05:11.59ckknightCryect: effectName.
05:13.38MikkThe syntax is simple :AddLine("secure", {"type"="foo", "somethingelse"="bar", ...}, ...)
05:14.11MikkFwiw, I actually tried out an all-out integration with separate button caches and whatnot. It was beautiful. Only a dozen added lines or so.
05:14.13MikkAnd utterly useless.
05:14.34MikkSticking a secure frame as a child of something, or anchoring it to something, turns that something into a secure frame also
05:14.43MikkWhich means you wouldn't be able to use dewdrop in combat.
05:14.46MikkDuh.
05:15.04MikkSo I ended up with that solution, where I'm moving a floating secure frame on top of existing buttons as you mouse over them.
05:16.26CIA-2203antiarc * r37097 10Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0/ (Threat-1.0.lua ThreatClassModuleCore.lua credits.txt): Threat-1.0: Added overheal detection so that threat isn't assigned for overheal. Only works for units in the player's group.
05:16.38MikkEnded up needing some relaying of events (OnClick and OnLeave), and also making sure the original OnLeave didn't do anything at all when you "left" as the secure frame got placed on top of the button and stole mouse focus
05:19.48CIA-2203antiarc * r37098 10Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0/ClassModules/Priest.lua: Threat-1.0: Added 0.5 modifier for Binding Heal
05:24.09Gagorianfor fucks sake
05:24.15TecnoBratwondering if someone can look at sRaidFrames, when you join an arena or a BG, and then leave it .. and then join another one .. the raid frames from the first one are still saved. You wont see anyone's health change, has the wrong people in it, etc
05:24.17GagorianI got the perfect pet hit to test threat on
05:24.24Gagorianthen a rogue comes after 3rd banish and ganks me
05:24.26Gagorian...
05:24.30AntiarchyperChipmunk: Are you doing the hunter module, or shall I start it?
05:24.32Killmorehahahaha
05:24.34AntiarcDoh >_<
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05:25.32hyperChipmunkAntiarc: i am =)
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05:25.45AntiarcOkay. I'll do, uh, paladins I guess.
05:26.37Mikkdo pallies need threat metering? =P
05:26.38hyperChipmunki've been sleeping the last few hours, so i'm reading the code now
05:26.53Mikkok, pardon, forgot about pally tanks
05:26.58hyperChipmunkdon't you worry =)
05:27.35Mikkgodsdamnit. i'm gonna stick CorpseWay Skull deletion into Cartographer_Clean
05:27.51hyperChipmunk=(
05:27.58hyperChipmunkTHAT WASN'T MY FAULT
05:29.10hyperChipmunk/shame
05:29.11NightHawkTheSaneit was my fault, i did it.
05:31.06Gagorianyay banish completed
05:31.26Adirellevhaarr, [Ammo]: did you notice the new Violation patch I submitted on the official topic ?
05:31.52vhaarrAdirelle: no, let me take a look
05:32.18AntiarcIs Imp Righteous Fury additive or multiplicative?
05:32.22Adirelleah, I knew this lack of reaction was suspicious :p
05:32.28CIA-2203gagorian * r37099 10Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0/ClassModules/Warlock.lua: Threat-1.0: - Warlock Module: Banish rank 1: 55.03 - 56.7 threat, rank2 is 102 so exactly half, 56 sounds appropriate
05:32.32AntiarcThat is, with 3/3, are holy spells 210% or 225%?
05:33.08anenigmaAntiarc: Improved Righteous Fury (3pt Talent)  1.16/1.33/1.5x of Righteous Fury's bonus
05:34.02Mikkfind out =P
05:34.02anenigmahttp://www.wowwiki.com/Formulas:Aggro :)
05:34.02AntiarcOk, so it's 190% then.
05:34.03Adirelleer... an ace'd alternative to KTM is on the way ?
05:34.03anenigmaAntiarc: so bonus is 0.6, so 3/3 gives 1.5x0.6 = 0.9 improvement, or 190% yes
05:34.24MikkAdirelle: yes
05:34.24Wobinhttp://www.zapinspace.com/
05:34.24AntiarcAdirelle: Yes.
05:34.24Adirelleinteresting :p
05:34.24NightHawkTheSaneAntiarc: and remember to apply righteous fury to heals as well
05:34.39Mikksome peeps here started looking at KTM's code, and more importantly, profiling how much CPU it was using
05:34.43Mikkthey had a hissy fit and got coding
05:34.49AntiarcNightHawkTheSane: Yeah, same as the priest stuff. I just built a list of spells affected.
05:34.57hyperChipmunkAntiarc: how do you want hunter pet done?
05:35.00hyperChipmunkrofl
05:35.11hyperChipmunkyes, we throw hissy coding fits here
05:35.27Mikk"TIS CRAP! *hackhackahckachakhack*"
05:35.52vhaarrAdirelle: use ChatThrottleLib's SendChatMessage
05:35.53AntiarchyperChipmunk: To be honest, I don't know yet.
05:35.58Silviu-Antiarc ah and Warlock pet too
05:36.29Adirelleoky
05:36.29AntiarcIgnore the pet for now, except for things like Master Demonologist.
05:36.29Adirelleany comment on the way I played with the print group args ?
05:36.29AntiarcI suspect I'll have a pet module specifically for pets, since they have their own aggro.
05:36.34Silviu-Yes they have
05:37.02Silviu-I don`t tank with my pet but some like to see when they pull aggro from they orwn pet
05:37.09Silviu-So could be a nice feature :)
05:37.20CIA-2203ckknight * r37100 10Parser-3.0/Parser-3.0/Parser-3.0.lua: Parser-3.0 - jumble some things around, add a Death type, take the killing blow notification part out of notifications.
05:37.21hyperChipmunkyea, my pet tanks for me
05:37.50vhaarrAdirelle: looks good, commit after that's done
05:37.51ckknightI should figure out what addons use Parser-3.0
05:38.02CryectMikk: If Kenco fixed the problems I don't think anyone would have bothered and didn't act like an ass on cursegaming comments :-p
05:38.04ckknightand then change them instead of fucking around with backwards compatibility
05:38.11CIA-2203kergoth * r37101 10SupplyAndDemand/Core.lua: SupplyAndDemand: Revert revision 36893, as it didn't fix anything.
05:38.26Antiarco.0
05:38.34AntiarcThere's a Mass Rez spell under paladins on Thott.
05:38.34Silviu-Srry to bring KTM in discussion but it had some nice features, that Master target was usefull on some bosses with adds, and what he was planning to add multiple threat windows for more units
05:38.47MikkOf course.
05:38.58hyperChipmunkyea, that was in the 2.0 beta or something
05:39.34hyperChipmunkor TBC beta
05:39.37AntiarcThreat's gonna have master targets, and we could do multiple targets pretty easily, but the consensus so far is that it's a relatively worthless measure due to unit ID problems.
05:39.39Silviu-But Antiarc that is a metter of Omen more then this library i guess ( cosmetic look ) ;)
05:40.21CIA-2203ckknight * r37102 10Parser-3.0/Parser-3.0/Parser-3.0.lua: Parser-3.0 - remove the killing blow notification
05:41.42AntiarcWhat's the modifier on paladin heals?
05:41.47AntiarcIt's more than the standard 0.5, isn't it?
05:41.52NightHawkTheSanehalf again
05:41.59NightHawkTheSaneso .25 of the net healing
05:42.00AntiarcOk, great
05:42.04AntiarcDoes that apply to Seal of Light?
05:42.18NightHawkTheSanenot a clue.
05:42.20anenigmaseal of light, i believe, is attributed to that player
05:42.22AntiarcOr is Light threatless?
05:42.26anenigmasimilar to prayer of mending
05:42.30NightHawkTheSaneanenigma: he said seal, not judgement
05:42.31AntiarcRight, but how much threat does it generate for said player?
05:42.36AntiarcErr, sorry, judgment.
05:42.43AntiarcThe one that I get as a rogue. :V
05:42.46NightHawkTheSane:P
05:43.02anenigmahaha.  I totally misread that.  I just assumed judgement since that is the tricker one
05:43.31AntiarcOh damn. How the hell do I do Holy Shock?
05:43.36AntiarcCurse these heal/damage abilities.
05:44.09AntiarcI suppose I can make an exception there.
05:46.22TecnoBratckknight, [2007/05/26 22:45:27-1398-x1]: FuBar_HonorFu-2.0.37082\HonorFu.lua:309: attempt to perform arithmetic on global 'WORLDSTATESCOREFRAME_BASE_WIDTH' (a nil value)
05:47.13Adirelledamn, SW_Stats sync protocol is a pain in the ass
05:47.22TecnoBratAdirelle, lol
05:47.42MikkSpeaking of unit id problems... wouldn't it actually be possible to distinguish equally-named units as long as people stick lucky charms on them?
05:48.11AntiarcIt should be, but that's an iffy assumption
05:48.53MikkObviously :>
05:51.06CIA-2203ckknight * r37103 10FuBar_HonorFu/HonorFu.lua: FuBar_HonorFu - fix bug. maybe. ah, we'll see.
05:52.21CIA-2203ckknight * r37104 10Parser-3.0/Parser-3.0/Parser-3.0.lua: Parser-3.0 - make the validation for the death filter better.
05:52.29ckknightbtw: http://www.wowace.com/wiki/Parser-3.0#Death
05:52.35ckknightMikk: meh, go ahead
05:52.41ckknightMikk: I know you're a good coder
05:52.47ckknightMikk: just be sure to document it
05:52.54NightHawkTheSaneMikk: ah, whats the worst that could happen :D
05:52.59CIA-2203adirelle * r37105 10Violation/ (5 files in 4 dirs):
05:52.59CIA-22Violation:
05:52.59CIA-22- some display tweaking (value formatting, hiding of percentage where it is meaningless),
05:52.59CIA-22- DPS and HPS modules no longer merge data (it is meaningless due to the way it is calculated),
05:52.59CIA-22- command to print data to chat channels,
05:53.00CIA-22- internal reworking of data display code (factorized common code from bar, tooltip and chat display).
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05:53.36CIA-2203hyperactiveChipmunk * r37106 10Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0/ClassModules/Hunter.lua:
05:53.36CIA-22Threat-1.0:
05:53.36CIA-22- Drycoded Hunter module with Disengage and Distracting Shot support
05:53.36CIA-22- No attempt at Misdirection yet >8P
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05:53.40Mikkckknight: documenting first, then commiting
05:53.44CIA-2203cryect * r37107 10Recount/ (GUI_Detail.lua GUI_Graph.lua GUI_Main.lua Recount.lua): Recount - Finally saves window positions and size
05:53.59ckknightthat's how you do it ;-)
05:53.59hyperChipmunkwtf
05:53.59hyperChipmunkno, no that's all wrong
05:54.02hyperChipmunkcommit
05:54.19hyperChipmunkdocument next month
05:54.22Sedaianyone elses Ag_uf having issues with party frame?
05:54.25NightHawkTheSanecommit, and document when someone complains
05:54.42NightHawkTheSane:D
05:54.42hyperChipmunkwhichever comes later
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05:55.11Adirellein my company, we have code and doc reviews, no way to omit docu...
05:55.46NightHawkTheSaneyou probably work for one of those companies that gets things done, don't you. :P
05:56.02kenlyric|homeAdirelle: can they pay us, too?
05:56.02AdirelleI don't thing so
05:56.16Adirelles/g/k/
05:56.35Adirelletho some of our clients indirectly supported some of my guild portal/addon developments :p
05:57.05CIA-2203gagorian * r37108 10Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0/ClassModules/Warlock.lua: Threat-1.0: - Warlock Module: Added fears rank 1-2. Threats 20 and 59
05:57.11SedaiAg_UF: issues with PartyFrame
05:57.36AdirelleGagorian, are you trying to beat some revision record or sth like that ? :D
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05:57.58kenlyric|homebe kinda hard to beat kergoth.
05:58.10GagorianI'm aiming to get rev 40000 today
05:58.19hyperChipmunkhehe
05:58.19Adirellebtw, I tried to fix hunter's trap in chronometer, it is giving me kinda headache
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05:58.56Adirellefor whatever reason, mob trapping even doesn't seem to fire off
05:59.02hyperChipmunkAntiarc: is there any help for me w.r.t. misdirection in the lib API?
05:59.09Soleerr
05:59.19Adirelles/even/event/
05:59.24Funkeh`Gagorian: i have my finger on a commit button when it its 39999
05:59.29Solewhy is Death listed as an eventType for Parser-3.0 on the API documentation but the code isnt even in teh lib?
05:59.35GagorianFunkeh`: You wouldn't dare!
05:59.40Funkeh`:p
05:59.43Cryectsole: means ckknight is adding it right now
05:59.43hyperChipmunkSole: he just committed it i think
05:59.54Adirelle(and chronometer internal code is quite cryptic)
06:00.06GagorianWell, I'm done for tonight
06:00.10Cryectchronometer code is definately cryptic
06:00.26Sedaianyone else having issues with AGUF adn the Party Frame?
06:00.29hyperChipmunkactually
06:00.30ckknightSole: hey, I added it
06:00.32GagorianI have enough post-it notes lying around my table with different threat values for one night
06:00.37hyperChipmunkhm
06:00.38hyperChipmunkno
06:00.38Soleckknight: cool
06:00.48Soleits just what I was looking for
06:00.55hyperChipmunkugh, misdirection gonna be hack no matter what =P
06:01.03ckknightI'm planning on ripping off Parser-1.1 in the most profane way possible.
06:01.28Cryectheh
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06:02.40Sedaianyone else even use AGUF?
06:03.03Cryect<hyperChipmunk> document next month
06:03.05Sparhawkeuh yes
06:03.06CryectPfft only a month?
06:03.22Jumoorwoot
06:03.23Jumoortier5 pants
06:03.24dottedSedai no not really, pitbull ftw
06:03.25hyperChipmunkCryect: we settled on "next month or when someone complains, whichever comes later"
06:03.39CryecthyperChipmunk: ah okay that works!
06:03.40ckknight...yep
06:03.40ckknight~pancake
06:03.56purlextra, extra, read all about it, pancake is ch-ch-mmmmm
06:03.56ckknightpurl, pancake is <reply>I want my pancake. eat them all up. eat them all up. they're really good.
06:04.01purlACTION slaps is <reply>I want my pancake. eat them all up. eat them all up. they're really good. with a soggy pancake for playing with the food.
06:04.01ckknightSedai: no
06:04.02dottedckknight lags¨
06:04.03ckknightSedai: actually, some still do, not me, though, I work on PitBull
06:04.20ckknightwtf?
06:04.27Funkeh`AI
06:04.32anenigmait's alive!
06:04.36hyperChipmunkO_o
06:04.39AntiarcNightHawkTheSane: No, there really isn't anything for Misdirection right now. We'll have to figure that out.
06:04.44AntiarcErr, hyperChipmunk, sorry
06:05.06hyperChipmunkright now i'm just gonna add support for nullifying hunter agro while its up
06:05.19Funkeh`ckknight: pancake is an action
06:05.29hyperChipmunkalthough i'm not sure if there's a way to tell if the hunter is on the receiving end
06:05.35ckknightFunkeh`: ah.
06:05.48hyperChipmunkhm
06:05.48Funkeh`~pancake ckknight
06:05.50purlACTION slaps ckknight with a soggy pancake for playing with the food.
06:05.51hyperChipmunki don't want to do the hunter module no more
06:05.51hyperChipmunk>8P
06:05.58AntiarcHaha, ok
06:06.02AntiarcI'll work it out when you're done
06:06.07hyperChipmunkhehehe
06:06.41hyperChipmunki'm kidding, but i will need some help from central command here
06:06.59Solehow long does it take for SVN to update? -_-
06:07.03NightHawkTheSanelol, I was in the other room and wondering why I got pinged. >.>
06:07.48Funkeh`sole: :17 :37 :52
06:08.03ckknightSole: instant?
06:08.10ckknightSole: unless I didn't commit properly, which I don't think is the case
06:08.25Soleckknight: Im still getting r33426 of Parser-3.0
06:08.34Silviu-Sole public svn is still out of sync
06:08.46Soleoh yah
06:08.50ckknightr37104
06:09.07Silviu-Kaelten must enable autosync again
06:09.09Silviu-37041
06:09.10CIA-2203mikk * r37109 10DewdropLib/Dewdrop-2.0/Dewdrop-2.0.lua:
06:09.10CIA-22DewdropLib:
06:09.10CIA-22- Add "secure" argument. Allows secure frame actions in menus (while out of combat, at least)
06:09.11Silviu-on public
06:09.27Funkeh`WTF NINJA COMMIT MIKK
06:09.29Silviu-It`s missing 70 revisions
06:09.29Silviu-;)
06:09.40Mikk~whaletubes Funkeh`
06:10.12purlACTION stuffs an incredibly flexible whale named Theodore into Funkeh`'s tubes. Funkeh`'s internets no worky :(
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06:10.13SoleI'll just download off the dev svn then
06:10.13hyperChipmunkok, at least the two parts of Misdirection have different tooltips--"Redirecting threat." for the caster, "Threat redirected to you." for the castee
06:10.15hyperChipmunkdo we have a way to detect that?
06:10.20Funkeh`damn you purl
06:10.42SedaiWHERE IWS MY PARTY FRAME ?MEKJSFBJKGB
06:10.56dottedrelax'
06:11.03Adirelleckknight: you're working a lot on parser-3.0, right ?
06:11.11dottedaye
06:11.25MikkhyperChipmunk: just have the hunter tell the misdir target how much extra threat he gets as the hunter is firing?
06:11.32Funkeh`hyperChipmunk: when you gain it, check your target you cast it on, then take the threat of all shots untill it fades from you
06:11.38Mikkthe target doesn't really need to know that he's being misdirected onto
06:11.48ckknightAdirelle: I just started to, I'll fix it up to be pristine soon
06:11.54hyperChipmunkwell, i'm not sure if i can communicate that yet =p
06:12.09Adirelleokay, I'll wait until you finished to update CastYeller then
06:12.15Funkeh`best bet is to leave it
06:12.16Mikkcause having the target guess how much threat the hunter is doing is .... wrong
06:12.20Funkeh`untill blizz fix it
06:12.21hyperChipmunkobviously
06:12.29ckknightAdirelle: okay. There likely won't be many changes, unless you use notification events.
06:12.39hyperChipmunkbut i don't know how to "send threat"
06:12.44Adirelleckknight: notification event ?
06:12.53hyperChipmunkbut the hunter still has to check
06:12.55ckknighteventType = "Notification"
06:13.10hyperChipmunkbecause he could have the Misdirection buff from someone casting it ON him
06:13.17hyperChipmunkhm
06:13.27ckknighthey Cartas
06:13.29hyperChipmunki guess if you just take the cast message
06:13.34hyperChipmunkthen it wouldn't start
06:13.35CartasHi old chap!
06:13.51Funkeh`oh just rip it from ktm already hyperChipmunk
06:14.01hyperChipmunki don't have that
06:14.01Adirelleckknight: oh, I don't, tho I got some error right now
06:14.05hyperChipmunki've never used a threat meter =p
06:14.15ckknightAdirelle: what's it say?
06:14.20Funkeh`just download it :P
06:14.22CIA-2203ckknight * r37110 10Parser-3.0/Parser-3.0/Parser-3.0.lua: Parser-3.0 - add in some missing events and global string infos. temporarily adding in a dev thing to print out missing global string info dealies.
06:14.33Adirelleckknight: CastYeller-r34252\CastYeller.lua:512: Parser-3.0: Bad argument #2 to `RegisterParserEvent'. eventType must be either "Damage", "Notification", "Heal", "Environmental", or "Miss" (currently "nil")
06:15.04Sole^^
06:15.21AdirelleI admit I neithed checked last version nor investigated why this error is happening
06:15.43hyperChipmunkok, here's the complication: Hunter has to check misdirection buff on himself to know when it ends, but can trigger it from spell message.  However, the misdirection on himself may be a misdirection from another hunter, so the tooltip must be scanned to make sure it's the right kind of Misdirection
06:15.48Solenymbia: pokepokepokepoke
06:16.05Adirelleckknight: here's the "offending" code : self:RegisterParserEvent({ eventType = 'Miss', sourceID = "player", abilityName_in = events.miss }, 'ParserEvent')
06:16.12ckknightodd.
06:16.13ckknightI see
06:16.15SolehyperChipmunk: my brain is about to ASPLODE!
06:16.16ckknightthat's not right.
06:16.17Adirelleevent.miss being an array
06:16.19GagorianWell, hyperChipmunk you can check if it's casted by you or not
06:16.22Adirelleit worked before :/
06:16.44Gagorianif select( 5, UnitBuff( "player", index ))
06:16.47AdirelleI'll recheck
06:17.10GagorianhyperChipmunk: if that's ~= nil then it should be yours
06:17.12Gagorianotherwise not
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06:17.29ckknightAdirelle: fixed.
06:17.29CIA-2203ckknight * r37111 10Parser-3.0/Parser-3.0/Parser-3.0.lua: Parser-3.0 - bad bugfix
06:18.00hyperChipmunkGagorian: excellent point
06:18.16Cartasckknight: You have any reason as to why my Pitbull might not have text on, whatsoever?
06:18.27CartasA /rl can fix it, and another /rl can cause it again, randomly... :S
06:18.33ckknightCartas: you're not updated fully?
06:18.44CartasI should be... I update 20 times a day!
06:19.14Soleis there a way to detect when the user closes Waterfall?
06:19.44GagorianhyperChipmunk: Make that disconnect the hunter for being a retard
06:20.06GagorianMaybe a warning message first, then crash his game
06:20.15Funkeh`Cartas: just delete all your PitBull addons and the PitBull saved variables and do a clean install
06:20.16Adirelleckknight: seems fine, TY
06:20.19Silviu-Cartas u can`t update now
06:20.34Silviu-Cartas u have an dev account or just public svn
06:20.55AdirellehyperChipmunk: I don't think a hunter with misdirection on him can cast its own misdirection on another character
06:21.17Silviu-Cartas if u use public svn is at revision 37041
06:21.34CartasThat is good enough, no? :o
06:21.39Silviu-no
06:21.39AdirellehyperChipmunk: I think any misdirection buff prevents any other kind of misdirection buff to be added
06:21.41hyperChipmunkmaybe if we make a circle of misdirection, we can confuse the mob to death...
06:21.48Silviu-dev is at r37111
06:21.53hyperChipmunkAdirelle: lame =P
06:22.00Cartaslol @ 'no'.
06:22.08GagorianhyperChipmunk: Maybe if raiding guilds brought even one hunter to a raid this would be a real issue :)
06:22.13hyperChipmunk>8*(
06:22.14GagorianLet alone two!
06:22.26MikkGagorian: Our top hunter does 1050 dps sustained
06:22.28AdirellehyperChipmunk: it's a way to prevent two hunter misdirecting on a single tank
06:22.30CartasI had too many hunters in my raids... :'(
06:22.31durcynwhat the hell's a hunter?
06:22.36hyperChipmunkAdirelle: i know you can't do that
06:22.44durcynthose are the chinese guys that try to sell me gold, right?
06:22.57AdirellehyperChipmunk: yeah... I think the "target misdirection buff" prevents casting
06:23.02Reclusea hunter is that thing you use to farm mats to support your raiding toons
06:23.09zoktaranyone use buffalo ?
06:23.21Adirelleerf... I'm actually raiding with my hunter
06:23.29hyperChipmunkclearly the Circle of Misdirection tactic is too overpowered
06:23.35zoktarhalf the time the buffs arnt clickable/ show no tooltip
06:23.37Adirelle:p
06:24.07AdirelleRecluse: lots of people in my guild prefer locks
06:24.10Funkeh`later folks
06:24.23GagorianMikk: Well, I've yet to personally witness a hunter doing good dps.
06:24.32hyperChipmunkAntiarc: i think all i need now is a way to 'give' someone else agro
06:24.38GagorianMost of them probably suck anyway
06:24.55Gagorianautoshot on and go afk :>
06:24.58CIA-2203antiarc * r37112 10Threat-1.0/ (6 files in 4 dirs): Threat-1.0: Added Paladin module. Added spell school callbacks for class modules. Added Babble-SpellTree dependency - we can probably eliminate this, though. Is there a lib with all the spell schools localized?
06:25.02Reclusehunter lacking dps = blizzard gave all mail gear to shammys in xpac
06:25.09AntiarchyperChipmunk: I'll see what I can do.
06:25.32hyperChipmunklike maybe a target arg to AddThreat
06:25.37hyperChipmunkhm
06:25.52NightHawkTheSaneRecluse: except.. they didn't,  because the mail gear sucks for shamans too.
06:25.55hyperChipmunkno, because then i'd have to reimplement the regular damage threat
06:26.05AdirelleGagorian: is DPS the only thing that counts to have a slot in a raid ?
06:26.09hyperChipmunkit'd have to be a modal thing
06:26.17hyperChipmunkthat sends all my threat to the other person
06:26.33Reclusei've been contemplating suiting out in leather on my hunter. i think my dps would skyrocket from where it's at now
06:26.37hyperChipmunkmisdirects it, in a manner of speaking >8p
06:26.44MikkGagorian: tell em to spec BM, get rogue leather, and stick a shadowpriest in their group
06:27.10MikkAdirelle: for a dps class, yeah, pretty much
06:27.16Mikkat least assuming all the people you get to choose from know how to follow orders, use their heads, etc
06:27.16AdirelleMikk: that's minimizing the "threat-safe" part of it
06:27.16GagorianAnd hunter's can't offer anything really useful with the current encounters
06:27.22AntiarchyperChipmunk: I'm thinking we just implement it via an AddOn message that tells them to add it to their threat
06:27.26CartasThey can pull aggro... :|
06:27.34MikkCartas: I said "use heads" =P
06:27.43Cartaslol
06:27.47Adirellethey can, but they shouldn't get it more than 2 seconds if they're doing it right
06:27.51CartasThat's not a quality of a hunter, I'm afraid.
06:27.54MikkDno.. 1050 dps from any other class than a hunter = wipe.
06:28.00GagorianNot really
06:28.04MikkHave yet to see a tank capable of outputting 1050 threat/s
06:28.13GagorianOn several encounters I do 1200 sustained NP
06:28.15CartasThey have feign death! But they use it to remove aggro... they should use it to reduce aggro before they ever get it...
06:28.15hyperChipmunkAntiarc: will i have to send my normal threat too, though?
06:28.16CartasGrr...
06:28.23Adirelleget better hunters...
06:28.28hyperChipmunksay if i misdirect and shoot 3 autoshots
06:28.30MikkGagorian: combat rogue?
06:28.37AntiarchyperChipmunk: Not sure. Gimme a bit to check.
06:28.38GagorianAffliction warlock :c
06:28.52hyperChipmunkwill i have to calculate their threat and send that?
06:28.52Adirellenevertheless, I'll stop to participate to this discussion, I'm starting to feel angry again
06:28.56ReclusexD
06:29.19MikkGagorian: Ah, reaping the benefits of destro locks with imp sb, shadowpriests sticking nasty debuffs on, etc etc =)
06:29.22CartasAre you a hunter, Adirelle, old chap?
06:29.48AdirelleCartas: <Adirelle> erf... I'm actually raiding with my hunter
06:29.56CartasAha!
06:30.03Adirellethat's my one and only char, and I love it
06:30.05CIA-2203antiarc * r37113 10Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0/ThreatClassModuleCore.lua: Threat-1.0: Added isCrit to damage/heal method signature. Needed for warlocks, at least.
06:30.05MikkBut erm.. yeah... 1200 sustained?  whatcha do? soulstone yourself? =)
06:30.12GagorianMikk: Well, elemental shaman totems, shadow priest debuffs, CoS etc. It all adds up to pretty sick. No destro locks though.
06:30.18hyperChipmunkif i could set a variable to my target and have the core send all of my threat to that target when it's not nil, that'd be the way to do it
06:30.18CartasThe rest of the hunter species is letting you down, Adirelle.
06:30.32AntiarchyperChipmunk: I'll see about doing something like that. I want to guard against abuse, though
06:30.36AdirelleI'm mainly feel understood from most other classes, as most of my guild classmates
06:30.40MikkGagorian: Nm the destro lock bit. I forget that affli locks spam sb these days.
06:30.46hyperChipmunkk =)
06:30.47Gagorianyeah
06:31.09hyperChipmunkideally, i wouldn't need to do anything except change that variable
06:31.17Adirellea bunch of hunters just stopped playing after BC
06:31.18Soleckknight: UnregisterAllParserEvents gives error: Parser-3.0: Bad argument #2 to `UnregisterParserEvent'. eventType must be either "Damage", "Notification", "Heal", "Environmental", or "Miss" (currently "Death")       sp ots tje sa,e as nefpre
06:31.32CIA-2203cryect * r37114 10Protractor/Protractor.lua:
06:31.32CIA-22Protractor - Adds a refresh button
06:31.32CIA-22-The search box is no longer set to autofocus
06:31.32CIA-22-Uses the autocolors from GraphLib now
06:31.37ckknightSole: update!
06:31.37ckknight:-P
06:31.50Solesilly me
06:31.51GagorianSole: translate( "sp ots tje sa,e as nefpre" )
06:31.59Diaoso it's the same as before
06:32.05Diao:P
06:32.11ckknightlol.
06:32.11Diaohis fingers were shifted 1 right
06:32.23Solelol
06:32.29SoleI do that sometimes :P
06:32.47AdirellehyperChipmunk: basically you can redirect ALL hunter threat as long as misdirection is up
06:32.51GagorianWell, some fingers were shifted to the left and some to the right :D
06:32.59GagorianBasically, pretty damn fucked up
06:33.15hyperChipmunkAdirelle: i know, but there's no way to do that in the lib, yet =p
06:33.25AdirellehyperChipmunk: good luck then
06:33.33Adirellebtw... they nerfed that a way in 2.1
06:33.45hyperChipmunkyea, know all that too
06:34.06GagorianWell, going to get some sleep
06:34.08Gagoriangnight
06:34.20hyperChipmunkwe're gonna work on the assumption that it's a bug, for now
06:34.28AdirelleI'll done some test
06:34.43Adirelleerf... excuse my english, I miss some sleep I think
06:34.47AdirelleI've done some tests
06:34.56AdirelleI think they changed the way charges are consumed
06:35.47CartasWhat the... kodos have a bit more trouble at running into the wyvern-tower in Orgrimmar since the patch...
06:35.49AntiarchyperChipmunk: I think I've kinda got it now
06:35.54Cartasand the GM blames my interface?>!
06:35.57Adirelletrap firing off and volley no consume charge
06:36.00AntiarcIt's untested though
06:36.05Adirelles/no/now/
06:36.29Adirellebut multishot seems to consume only one charge instead of a charge per target
06:36.32RecluseYou talking about bugged movement of kodos?
06:36.36CIA-2203antiarc * r37115 10Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0/ (Threat-1.0.lua ThreatClassModuleCore.lua): Threat-1.0: Changes to allow for hunter misdirection. Really needs some kind of checks to prevent poisoning, though.
06:36.53CartasI've only noticed it in one place, Recluse!
06:36.55GagorianAdirelle hyperChipmunk: http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=105890837&postId=1056627005&sid=1#7
06:36.58AntiarchyperChipmunk: set self.redirectThreatTo to the name of your misdirection target
06:37.04CartasI doubt it's bugged, those Blizzard folk hate us Tauren! :'(
06:37.04AntiarcSet self.redirectThreatTo = nil to stop redirecting threat.
06:37.05hyperChipmunkyea, it goes off of the serpent sting *cast* now instead of the first tick
06:37.30hyperChipmunkAntiarc: that's perfect
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06:38.11CIA-2203antiarc * r37116 10Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0/ClassModules/ (Paladin.lua Rogue.lua): Threat-1.0: Remove "Class loaded" messages.
06:38.26Reclusehmm - i got mobs acting up everywhere - bouncing in and out of the ground, mobs pouncing out of hillsides to attack, floating in the air... it's crazy
06:38.45Mikkaye, mob movement is proper crap right now =)
06:38.46AdirelleGagorian: I can guess what's happening: third shot will consume the last charge, so Misdirection fades off, then the arrow/bullet hits the target, generating threat from hunter...
06:38.48RecluseBlizzard said they reported it, but still no fix :p http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=105972778&sid=1
06:40.15Adirellevhaarr: in Violation, is the WhisperDataToPlayer function supposed to do the same thing than other printing commands ?
06:40.40vhaarrAdirelle: it's supposed to whisper data to players
06:41.01Adirellevhaarr: ...
06:41.15CIA-2203cryect * r37117 10GraphLib/Graph-1.0/Graph-1.0.lua: GraphLib - Built in colors are a little less high contrast now
06:41.17Adirellevhaarr: I meant : in human-readable form ?
06:41.17vhaarrAdirelle: yes
06:41.18Adirelleokay
06:41.52Adirellevhaarr: and why did you added a spacer ? you planned to add a list of party/raid members for easy acces ?
06:42.02vhaarrAdirelle: yes
06:42.26CartasWhy would WoW suddenly stop me from selecting the higher resolutions that my monitor can support? :(
06:42.31CartasGrr... everything is going wrong with this nowadays!
06:43.34Reclusehehe. i think they changed more than they should have in this patch
06:46.40XuerianOr more than they said they did, anyway. ;P
06:47.19Recluse:)
06:48.01Soleis there any reliable way to detect if an enemy hunter (hes the target) has cast feign death
06:48.32Xuerian0.o
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06:48.36XuerianWouldn't that defeat the whole point of it? :P
06:48.53SoleI know his health is reported as 0 so atm I keep a record of if hes actually been killed and if he hasnt then I assumed hes FD
06:48.59Solebut that hasnt seemed to work
06:49.52Reclusehmm, let's hope so "We did find one bug invlving textures that should be fixed in 2.1.1 soon."
06:50.05SoleI think I might just remove that from Gladiator, would be for the best I think
06:50.14Sedaidoes anyone else have issues with AGUF and thier party frame?
06:50.35Kaeltenrenchap: whats the url to the repository now?
06:51.31hyperChipmunkFetching external item into '../Omen/Libs/Threat-1.0'
06:51.34hyperChipmunksvn: URL 'http://svn.wowace.com/wowace/trunk/Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0' doesn't exist
06:51.43Kaelten...
06:51.45Kaelten:s
06:51.47Kaeltennot good.
06:51.57hyperChipmunker, no, it all works
06:52.01hyperChipmunkexcept that one =)
06:52.08hyperChipmunksorry to startle you, K =)
06:52.11nevcairielits like 70 revisions behind again
06:52.11AntiarcIt has an extra apostrophe
06:52.12Kaeltenwell except that I can't seem to issue sync commands
06:52.16hyperChipmunki was just pointing it out to anti
06:52.22Kaeltenya I'm getting 301 errors
06:52.27Kaeltenwhen I try to sync it
06:52.36Kaeltenuntil I know what the correct url is, its not going to work.
06:52.42Reclusehttp://svn.wowace.com/wowace/trunk/Threat-1.0/
06:52.51Recluseworks for me
06:53.15KaeltenI might end up bringing the public svn back in house so I can keep tabs on it a little easier
06:53.17Recluseyou have an extra Threat-1.0 in your url hehe
06:53.20hyperChipmunkthat's the external call
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06:53.25hyperChipmunknot mine
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06:53.29CIA-2203whitetooth * r37118 10StatLogicLib/StatLogic-1.0/StatLogic-1.0.lua:
06:53.29CIA-22StatLogicLib:
06:53.29CIA-22- Greatly improved zhTW localization
06:53.29CIA-22- Improved GetSum function and debug text
06:53.32Kaeltenwe'll see what the upcoming server restructure brings
06:53.41AntiarcRecluse: That's the old unsynched version
06:54.04Antiarchttp://dev.wowace.com/wowace/trunk/Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0/
06:54.07AntiarcThat's what it should be
06:54.21hyperChipmunk<PROTECTED>
06:54.28hyperChipmunkis what's in svn:externals
06:54.30AntiarcRight. It's not synched with dev.
06:54.31nevcairielthats the correct url
06:54.39nevcairielthe public svn just did not update yet
06:54.52hyperChipmunkdat's whack, yo
06:54.53AntiarcI made the change like 6 hours ago :/
06:55.56Kaeltenwhile he was fixing it yesterday I disable auto sync
06:56.06Kaeltenand now when I try to do amanual sync its not letting me
06:56.12MikkGod, I love played druid.   "[randomnoob] do you want to tank or heal SL?"  (i'm feral tank btw)   "nope, sorry, i'm moonkin".
06:56.17Kaeltenso basically its broke until I talk to renchap
06:56.19Mikk_WHAT_ other class can always fake that? =P
06:56.28nevcairielhaha
06:56.42nevcairieli generally ignore people who ask me if i can tank
06:56.45nevcairielsince i am resto :P
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07:02.05CIA-2203hyperactiveChipmunk * r37119 10Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0.xml:
07:02.05CIA-22Threat-1.0:
07:02.05CIA-22- added Hunter.lua to xml filelist
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07:04.17JacksonIs anyone else getting stuck in arena matches after they finish?
07:04.20AntiarcYeah
07:05.17JacksonJust two out of three of us and two of us are using an almost identical addons directory.  I'm thinking it could be a pretty big pain to narrow down, what with having to be in an arena match for it.
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07:05.59CIA-2203adirelle * r37120 10Violation/Violation.lua: Violation: data whispering done.
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07:06.50Andrn00bazurewrath
07:06.52Andrn00bthats a familiar name
07:07.16Andrn00band andune
07:11.29ckknightman, there's a lot of stuff I need to add to Parser-3.0
07:14.33AntiarcI'm running Threat/Omen with my wife and it's working great :D
07:14.57Mikk#&¤%#&¤%%&&#% where the hell is CorpseWay hiding its notes?
07:15.05hyperChipmunksekrit
07:15.15Mikktrying to iterate through databases but i'm not finding them via the apis
07:15.24hyperChipmunkactually, i just did AddNote
07:15.45hyperChipmunksince nobody told me that AddNote announced your note to teh entire freaking server
07:15.51hyperChipmunkso it's wherever that put them
07:16.55CIA-2203antiarc * r37121 10Omen/Omen.lua: Omen: Format threat numbers before we print them.
07:17.31hyperChipmunkAntiarc: you might want to just make self.passiveThreatModifiers be implicitly 1
07:17.54AntiarcIt is.
07:18.14hyperChipmunkwell, if i don't set it in my hunter module, it says "boo hoo this is nil"
07:18.17AntiarcOh, right
07:18.56CIA-2203antiarc * r37122 10Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0/ThreatClassModuleCore.lua: Threat-1.0: Passive modifier is 1 by default.
07:19.04hyperChipmunk=p
07:19.21hyperChipmunkgood man
07:20.15hyperChipmunkalso, you have warrior class name "Warrior", whereas the others are, e.g. "ROGUE"
07:22.23AntiarcI think that's cruft anyhow
07:23.08SoleI guess Im gonna have to fix Parser-3.0 myself
07:26.41AntiarcVictoly!
07:26.53Antiarcmeter properly predicted aggro switches in 5 fights in a row :D
07:27.51AntiarcAnd now, I sleep.
07:28.00AntiarcI'll wrap up the class modules tomorrow.
07:29.38Diaonight
07:29.51CIA-2203sole * r37123 10Parser-3.0/Parser-3.0/Parser-3.0.lua: Parser-3.0: Fix UnregisterParserEvent and UnregisterAllParserEvents error when eventType == "Death".
07:29.57Solegj Antiarc
07:30.00ckknightSole: dammit
07:30.10SoleI warned you
07:30.29ckknightI wasn't pinged
07:30.36ckknightI'm adding like 3 more event types right now :-P
07:30.43ckknightDrain, Durability, Cast
07:30.47Soleo_O
07:31.02Solewell Im happy
07:31.04ckknighttrying to get this one event to stop bugging, by adding more eventTypes
07:31.09Solebecause now Ive done my part to fuck up your day!
07:31.10SoleHA
07:31.15ckknightI'm stealing everything from ParserLib
07:31.20Solelol
07:31.24ckknightdon't mess with it anymore, Sole
07:31.40Soleyeah alright, I just figured I should fix a pretty important bug
07:31.42CIA-2203cryect * r37124 10Recount/ (. GUI_Graph.lua GUI_Main.lua Recount.lua Recount.toc):
07:31.42CIA-22Recount - Adds a refresh button to the graph window
07:31.42CIA-22-Finally adds a button (the file button) on the main window to select between the various data sets (currently only overall, current fight, and last fight though in the future saved fights as well)
07:31.48Soledidnt know you were still working on it
07:32.09ckknightyou could've asked.
07:34.36SoleI could have, and I will keep that in mind next time I modify a lib
07:34.36MikkSigh. Sole you need to take classes from Fisker. There's not enuf drama here today.
07:34.36SoleMikk: will do sir
07:34.36MikkI mean... wristslaps met with reasonable responses? Wtf
07:34.41Cryectoh good you are adding drain
07:35.02ckknightlol, Mikk
07:35.03Cryectbtw if you drain health will that also create heal & damage events to occur as well
07:35.10ckknightCryect: I'm adding everything
07:35.12Solelol Mikk
07:35.27SoleIM TELLING ROPHY ON YOU!
07:35.31CryectHaha
07:35.32renchapKaelten: ping
07:35.41Kaeltenhey
07:35.46KaeltenI'm getting 301's
07:35.56Kaeltenpreventing me from setting the sync back up
07:36.12CryectWatch Parser-3.0 really just calls Parserlib-1.1 then reorganizes the data and triggers its own events!
07:37.14renchapuse svn;wowace.renchap.com
07:37.43renchaps/;/.
07:38.25ckknightlol, Cryect, not quite
07:38.32ckknightall it is is Parser-1.1 with a better API
07:38.40ckknighti.e. a sane API
07:39.06Kaeltensvn.wowace.renchap.com/wowace right?
07:39.13renchapyes
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07:40.23SoleParser-1.1 had a weird ass API
07:40.39Cryectits iriel's or whatever
07:40.44Solerophy
07:40.55Cryectoh you talking the way its setup
07:41.10renchapKaelten: fixed
07:41.11CryectI actually find Parser 1.1 more sane than 3.0 but hey
07:41.18Cryectmaybe I'm insane
07:41.27ckknightyes, you are.
07:42.01Kaeltenrenchap: you need to add a pre-revprop-change hook script that passes
07:42.37renchap-rwxr-xr-x 1 svn svn  126 May 26 09:24 pre-revprop-change
07:42.56Cryectwhats weird about Parser-1.1?
07:43.09Kaeltensvnsync: DAV request failed; it's possible that the repository's pre-revprop-change hook either failed or is non-existent
07:43.12Kaeltensvnsync: At least one property change failed; repository is unchanged
07:43.17CryectBesides its not Ace-2.0 style of event registering
07:43.37ckknightlol, Parser-3.0's isn't either
07:44.01ckknightbasically, Parser-1.1 forces you to register with events for some ungodly reason
07:44.17ckknightParser-3.0 just takes that out of the picture, instead forces you to register by providing a filter of what you want
07:44.22Cryectthats due to you have to specify callback functions nothing strange
07:45.01CryectI guess I don't find it strange since I've worked with so many things in the past with really similar structure
07:45.17renchapKaelten: and now ?
07:45.23nevcairielckknight: i get some spam on login from Parser-3.0, about "Unset globalStringInfo"
07:45.30ckknightI know
07:45.31ckknightthat's for me.
07:45.35ckknightI'm haxoring.
07:45.36Kaeltenrenchap: same
07:45.38Solewell its not for me
07:45.44SoleSO GET RID OF IT BUDDYBOYY
07:45.49Cryecthaha committing your debug code eh
07:46.17ckknightCryect: meh.
07:46.21ckknightI'll be done with it soon
07:47.55rophyckknight: Parser-1.1 can already register with info type now instead of events not 'forces'
07:47.59rophywhatever
07:48.26rophy1.1 and 3.0 are really the same thing, with 3.0 adding a filter layer.
07:48.33ckknightyea, pretty much
07:48.49ckknightit allows for more optimization
07:49.21Cryectoh was ckknight talking about long ago when you had to register individual events for parser-1.1
07:49.39ckknightyes, didn't realize you could register for info types
07:49.46CryectYeah that was added long ago
07:50.19Cryectwas a real pain before that though
07:50.26rophythe main point is to have the client parse the logs once only
07:50.28RecluseIs there a slash command for cartographer? I hit the enable toggle by mistake and can't get it to reenable
07:50.43Recluseno menu access lol
07:51.51Mikkwhere's the disable? o.O
07:52.23CIA-2203scorpio0920 * r37125 10BigWigs/Outland/ (Kazzak.lua Maulgar.lua): BigWigs: Add zhTW.
07:52.30ckknightRecluse: there's no disable
07:53.15nevcairielckknight: if you disable LookNFeel, you cannot get anything to work anymore :P
07:53.23Reclusewell, i was viewing world map, clicked the cartographer button at the top for the menu... hit something there that turned it off
07:53.26nevcairielLookNFeel is bugged anyway
07:53.28ckknightnevcairiel: yea, I know. /rl
07:53.29Recluseyeah, i think that was it
07:53.41Reclusebut like my mapnotes for it don't work and such
07:54.04nevcairielckknight: your new overlay haxx hide pvp objectives, and the zone map overlays instance maps.
07:54.04ckknightI KNOW
07:54.04CartasI just took falling damage while on my flying mount :(
07:54.05ckknightSTOP BUGGING ME.
07:54.06nevcairielFIX :P
07:54.12ckknightI DON'T CARE.
07:54.55MikkAdvice from the burned: Never allow yourself to become irreplacable =P
07:55.06MikkBurnout @ 30 ftl
07:56.06ckknightI'm not burned out
07:56.15ckknightI'm working on other stuff
07:56.29ckknightand people bugging me about stupid shit I don't care about won't make me change tasks
07:56.37JacksonJust two out of three of us and two of us are using an almost identical addons directory.  I'm thinking it could be a pretty big pain to narrow down, what with having to be in an arena match for it.
07:56.39Jacksonasdfasdfasdf
07:56.43JacksonWrong window
07:56.57Cryectstop bugging him! he's finally fixing Parser-3.0 :-p
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07:59.15Reclusethanks for the tip about LnF, forgot all about that. just had to edit the SV: ["disabledModules"] = {["Default"] = {["Look 'n' Feel"] = false,},},
07:59.48CIA-2203mikk * r37126 10Cartographer_Cleanup/Cleanup.lua: Cartographer_Cleanup: Delete "Skull" notes by "CorpseWay" also. For great justice.
08:00.57ckknightRecluse: you could just /rl, like I told you to
08:01.50Recluseoh, i didn't realize /rl was a command you wanted me to try xD
08:02.00CIA-2203hyperactiveChipmunk * r37127 10Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0/ClassModules/Hunter.lua:
08:02.00CIA-22Threat-1.0: Hunter.lua
08:02.00CIA-22- bugfixes; disengage and distracting shot tested and working
08:02.58CIA-2203stormfx * r37128 10cyCircled/core.lua:
08:02.59CIA-22cyCircled:
08:02.59CIA-22- Few fixes (N00bZXI). Sorry about the comma! :)
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08:06.41CIA-2203adirelle * r37129 10Chronometer/ (Core/Chronometer.lua Data/Hunter.lua):
08:06.41CIA-22Chronometer:
08:06.41CIA-22- fixed hunter traps... really... I hope...
08:10.08Killmoregot this error message http://img511.imageshack.us/img511/3498/wowscrnshot052707040731xp5.jpg
08:10.29Killmorewhen Im trying to run just Omen and KTM to try it with this character
08:10.31Cryectprolly doesn't have externals setup yet
08:11.30Cryector maybe it does as I'm grabbing it now
08:11.49Iceroth## Notes: A lightweight threat meter !!NOT USABLE!! <-- prolly not worth the trouble poking the author at this stage
08:12.04Icerothunless you have something to contribute
08:13.00Killmoreyes, im trying to help Antiarc
08:13.27KillmoreI just help him a little bit with my priest and now I want to try this warrior
08:13.50Cryectheh externals are messed up
08:15.23hyperChipmunklol i wonder if i can misdirect mining agro
08:15.34Mikkhahahaha
08:15.48hyperChipmunk*runs to find a mine*
08:15.50Mikki don't think it's aggro as such tho
08:15.51Mikkjust noticing you
08:16.21Icerothwhy won't you just misd someone, shoot the mob and mine happily?
08:16.31nevcairielhaha
08:16.36hyperChipmunkthat's not as funny, idiot
08:16.41Iceroth:p
08:16.44nevcairielmisd should be limited to group/party imho
08:16.50hyperChipmunkit is
08:16.51Mikkmisdirect is misunderstood
08:16.54hyperChipmunki was thinking my pet
08:16.55nevcairielah
08:16.58Mikkit is for using on vanished rogues just before you FD
08:17.04hyperChipmunklol
08:17.15Cryectits for use to kill afk players
08:17.31Arrowmasterfor killing gold beggers in org
08:17.34Mikkwe don't do enough of that :(
08:19.11CIA-2203nevcairiel * r37130 10Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0/ (ClassModules/Druid.lua Threat-1.0.xml): Threat-1.0: added skeleton druid module, only stance modifiers so far
08:22.49Icerothsublety change should make it much easier to implement as wel
08:22.53Iceroth+l
08:23.30Fisker-skeleton druid module?
08:23.35Fisker-You mean druids with noggenfogger?
08:23.36Fisker-HAHA
08:23.46Icerothno, the debuff from kara waitresses
08:24.00Iceroth"You feel thing"
08:24.04Iceroth-g
08:24.11Icerothcan't type this morning it seems
08:24.32Sais"This morning" was OK. It's just everything else ;P
08:26.31Fisker-isn't that only armor related?
08:26.39Fisker-reduces your armor to 0% or something like that
08:26.59Cryectyes
08:28.23nevcairielAntiarc: the amount passed to abilityThreatMods is the amount of threat, not the amount of healing/dmg, right?
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08:29.42Diaolol
08:32.31art3mishehe i read nev's commit as skeleton druid model
08:32.49art3miswas trying to figure out when druids got skeleton form ;P
08:33.13nevcairiel:P
08:35.40Diaowhoa wait
08:35.47Diaodruids get +30% bonus threat?
08:36.02hyperChipmunkin bar form
08:36.09CIA-2203nevcairiel * r37131 10Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0/ClassModules/Druid.lua: Threat-1.0: added healing modifiers
08:36.09Diaomore than warriors o_o
08:36.24Diaoor am i confusing it
08:36.34nevcairielfrom what i am told, warriors get 1.3x in defensive too
08:36.40CIA-2203cryect * r37132 10Recount/ (GUI_Detail.lua GUI_Main.lua Recount.lua):
08:36.40CIA-22Recount - Changed time filter so change ramps up more smoothly
08:36.40CIA-22-Time data is now positioned based on the average position of the time filter
08:36.40CIA-22-Detail Window correctly updates when Main Window data type shown is changed
08:36.40CIA-22-Detail Window no longer shows old data on the bottom section if missing data from the top section
08:36.42nevcairielor wowwiki is wrong
08:36.42Diaowtf
08:36.51Diaothe tooltip says 10% bonus in defensive over "normal"
08:36.57Diaowhich should be 110% o_O
08:37.03Cryectnevcairiel: druids & warriors actually work differently
08:37.17Diaofrom what i recall
08:37.19Cryectwell they are both +30% for that
08:37.22Diaoit's 30% more than battle and berserker
08:37.26Cryectno
08:37.30Diaoand battle/zerk have 20% reduced
08:37.33Cryect+30% more than battle
08:37.38CryectErr
08:37.45CryectI mean +30% than no stance
08:37.54Diaohmm
08:38.08KillmoreDefiance get +15%
08:38.19CryectDefiance & Feral Instinct vary how they work though
08:38.25Diaoweird i've always tanked and assumed it was +10% over no stance
08:38.27nevcairielferal instinct is additve yea
08:38.31Killmoreand defensive stance get 30%
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08:38.45Killmorewith talent warrior get x1.45
08:38.49Diaoi wonder why they make the tooltip say 10%
08:38.51Diaoinstead of 30% then
08:39.02Cryectit doesn't say 10%
08:39.03CryectREAD IT
08:39.04CryectWhoops
08:39.07CryectDidn't mean all caps
08:39.08Diaoit does o_o
08:39.12Killmorethe tooltip say nothing about + threat %
08:39.18Diaoor it used to
08:39.19CryectA defensive combat stance.  Decreases damage taken by 10% and damage caused by 10%.  Increases threat generated.
08:39.25Cryectit never did :-p
08:39.42nevcairielhttp://www.thottbot.com/s7376
08:40.24Laricwhats recount?
08:41.08toddhttp://forums.worldofwar.net/showthread.php?t=372564 there's some threat stuff
08:41.59nevcairielhttp://www.wowwiki.com/Formulas:Aggro
08:42.01nevcairiel:P
08:42.53todd:o
08:42.57Diaowtf
08:43.07Diaothat means warriors have an innate 62.5% threat increase/decrease when switching stances
08:43.12Cryecttodd: that version is old
08:43.23CryectDiao: whats strange about that?
08:43.31Diaomm
08:43.36Diaopeople pulling agro with recklessness executes
08:43.39Diaobut not catching up on threat meters
08:44.15Cryectalso Defiance is multiplicative unlike Feral Instinct
08:44.37Cryectso  its actually 69.5% threat diff
08:44.41Diaoi meant untalented
08:45.01Cryectoh you are talking in relative terms then
08:45.09Diaoyeah
08:45.12Diaoand
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08:45.28Cryectmost warriors generate like 500-600 TPS
08:45.28DiaoPatch 2.03 changed the aggro for druids to be additive, same as the warrior. <-?
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08:45.46Cryectoh was it multiplicative before that
08:45.50Diaoyeayh
08:46.06Diaoor wait
08:46.09Diaothat sentence is confusing
08:46.14CryectHeh had it mixed up saw they said additive on the page (and my old notes showed it as multiplicative)
08:46.14Diaoi think they're referring to druid abilities
08:47.04Cryectprolly
08:47.11Diaohmm
08:47.27Diaoso then how does one pull agro with executes when you're doing so much less tps
08:47.29Diaoo_o
08:47.32CryectLaric: Recount is a graphical damage meter addon
08:47.43CryectDiao what do you mean?
08:47.50Cryectas I said prot warriors are generating like 600 TPS
08:47.53Diaoyeah
08:47.58Diao86.875% bonus threat relatively
08:48.01Diaowith defiance in def stance
08:48.05Cryectyeah so if you had no threat modifiers thats only 600 DPS
08:48.11Diaoexecute has a modifier of 1.25
08:48.12Cryectto take aggro
08:48.26Cryectso.... whats the surprise
08:48.44CryectProt warriors generate lousy aggro and its only the modifiers everyone has that makes it work
08:49.05Arrowmasterktm had the threat for execute wrong for a long time
08:49.45Diaohm
08:49.59CryectStill has lots of known things wrong >_> like Void Reaver Knockback being only 25% threat reduction not 50%
08:50.00Diaoyou'd need to do ~1400 execute every 1.5 sec
08:50.02Diaoto do 600 tps
08:50.25Cryectadd in autoattack damage
08:50.46Arrowmastereverybody always forgets autoattack when talking about melee stuff
08:51.10CryectYep
08:51.19Diaoalso 600 tps seems kind of low
08:51.28Diaodunno
08:51.36Arrowmasterits not really
08:51.49Cryectits not
08:51.49CryectWell it looks low compared to druid TPS
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08:52.57Diaoi mean
08:52.58Arrowmasterbut when you take into account the 110% needed for melee and 130% needed for ranged to pull aggro the gap grows larger so the amount of TPS needed to pull aggro is larger than 600 TPS and always growing
08:53.10Diaoi think i was pulling like 500 tps as a fury warrior
08:53.16Diaowhen i was tanking stuff
08:53.32Arrowmasterive actually done over 1200 TPS before on my warlock
08:53.42kbhmy sanity inventory is VERY wrong now
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08:54.20Diaoif all of your abilities connect
08:54.27Diaoa prot warrior should be averaging like
08:54.29Diaodouble what i was getting
08:55.41Diaoforgot about salv too :P
08:55.44Diao30% less threat
08:56.58Cryectyou are talking about nonraid stuff I assume
08:57.01Arrowmasterheh with salv now i dont even have to think about threat once the tanks had just a little bit of time to get started
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08:57.16Cryectso stuff you aren't glancing on or has as high parry rate
08:57.28CryectParry rate on bosses is crazy
08:57.50Diaowell you can't glance on abilities
08:58.01Diaoso it's really just the parry
08:58.24Cryectwhich is like ~15% last I checked
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08:58.58Diaoo_O
08:59.02Diao15% parry?
08:59.04Cryectyeah its kinda crazy
08:59.09Diaowtf lol
08:59.27Diaoyou sure it's not 5.6% parry/miss/dodge each?
08:59.27Cryectthey changed how defense/weapon skill works for boss mobs
08:59.27CryectYes
08:59.36Cryectits 8.6% miss
08:59.45Cryect~15% parry
09:00.06Cryectfor yellow attacks its 5.6% miss though
09:00.11Diaoo_O
09:00.28Diaoi'll check on recap next time i raid
09:01.24Diaowtf
09:01.27Diaostrange error
09:01.49Diaohttp://ace.pastey.net/41850
09:01.59Cryectheh example here http://acm.jhu.edu/~cryect/HydrossKill_/crizack.html just some data I have up and remember off top my head
09:02.04Cryectdoesn't show the break down on misses
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09:02.21Cryectbut you can see ~28.6 miss rate around
09:02.37Cryect15% Parry 5.6% Miss and 5% Dodge
09:02.51Diaomiss counts all 3?
09:02.51Cryectoh +3% for Level diff
09:03.10Cryectyes WWS combines them
09:03.10Diaoah
09:03.17CryectI dislike that but oh well
09:03.17Diaohm
09:03.21Diaostrange mechanics
09:03.25Diaowonder why blizzard makes it harder on the tanks
09:03.56Diaohitting from behind reduces it to just the miss rate and casters only have to deal with resist
09:04.10Cryectno hitting from behind you still have dodge on mobs
09:04.31Cryectonly against other players is it only miss
09:04.40Diaowell that's a bug supposedly
09:04.43Diaowhich blizzard is too lazy to fix
09:04.50Cryectno its not anymore
09:05.00Cryectits balanced around that mechanic in mind
09:06.59Saisheh. "It might once have been a bug, but we've now made it a feature"
09:07.05Cryectpretty much
09:07.35Diaolol
09:07.41Diaoalways ends up that way apparently
09:07.57CIA-2203whitetooth * r37133 10RatingBuster/ (3 files):
09:07.57CIA-22RatingBuster: 1.2.1
09:07.57CIA-22- Updated Taiwan localization by Whitetooth
09:07.57CIA-22- Improved stat scanning
09:08.00SaisSome of the best ideas come from making mistakes *shrug*
09:08.59Diaoi'm surprised blizzard was able to nerf flurry for warriors without doing the same to shaman
09:09.13Cryectyou get back partial energy from all misses so its not completely horrible
09:09.18Diaothey weren't able to make victory rush 35% ap separate from bloodthirst
09:09.27Diaoso they just buffed the tooltip to say 45%
09:09.27Diaolol
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09:09.48CIA-2203ckknight * r37134 10Parser-3.0/Parser-3.0/Parser-3.0.lua: Parser-3.0 - add a few more events, a few more event types
09:10.10sonsorahey guys, i have a error with "Cycicled" i hope some of yo ucan help me
09:10.30Leialynhey, they didn't include the 10% coefficiency change at improved frost/fire bolt to not confuse newbies oO
09:10.49Leialyntooltip*
09:11.29sonsorainterface\addons\cycicled\core.lua:326:attempts to index global 'G' (a nil value)
09:11.38sonsoracan anybody explain to me what the error is ?
09:11.53sedatedChipmunkretarded programmer
09:12.00Cryectprolly meant _G :-p
09:12.00sonsorawhat is the problem ?
09:12.10sonsoraso do i have to change something ?
09:12.11sedatedChipmunkthat's almost assuredly a typo
09:12.27sonsorai just have to change the G to _G ?
09:12.30ckknightyea
09:12.34Cryectprolly
09:12.35sonsoraok and thx
09:12.39Cryectwon't guarantee
09:12.40sonsorawhat is the difference btw ?
09:12.43Cryectcould be missing a space
09:12.45sedatedChipmunk95% sure that's the problem
09:12.45sonsorajust curious
09:12.52sedatedChipmunkwrong variable name
09:12.54Cryect_G is the variable the global space
09:12.54sonsoraok
09:12.57Diaolol
09:12.58sonsoraoh
09:12.59sedatedChipmunkthe variable name is _G and not G
09:13.01Diaoi just reported that
09:13.02Diao:P
09:13.05sonsorahehe :D
09:13.12sonsorawell give me a sec. then i check if that is the probloem
09:13.13sedatedChipmunkas i said
09:13.18sedatedChipmunkretarded programmer =p
09:13.25kbhmy sanity2 makes everything in the bank double entried!
09:13.36Andrn00b?
09:13.38Cryectthats what the 2 is for!
09:13.43sedatedChipmunkhehe
09:13.49Diaolol
09:14.09kbhand only shows a max of 20 per stack (when i have like 400 netherweave)
09:14.30CIA-2203hyperactiveChipmunk * r37135 10cyCircled/core.lua:
09:14.30CIA-22cyCircled:
09:14.30CIA-22- fixed typo in line 326 of core.lua (G -> _G)
09:14.44Diaoyeah it's not recording stuff properly
09:14.59Diaoantiarc has been busy working on the new threatmeter lol
09:15.05kbhi know, cant wait
09:15.18sonsorabtw guys, is there a way i can see what line it is in "notebook" ?
09:15.18kbhare there any umm... alternatices for peering into my bank alts?
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09:15.24Diaocharacterinfo?
09:15.26Diaoi think
09:15.26sonsoracos i'm using notebook to read addons
09:15.33sedatedChipmunkcount 'em!
09:15.39sonsorawos it's kinda difficult without :D
09:15.42kbhi would reccomend Crimson Editor
09:15.42Stephmwsonsora: notepad? no, you'll need something else
09:15.50Mikksonsora: hit ctrl+g
09:15.51sonsorawhat then ?
09:15.53kbhwith lua hilighting
09:15.54sonsoraok
09:15.55Mikklets you jump to a specific line
09:16.01StephmwMikk: in notepad?
09:16.02sonsorayeh i know mikk
09:16.07Diaooh
09:16.09sonsorabut dones't work with line
09:16.12Diaoi use textpad
09:16.13sonsoraonly letters
09:16.28sedatedChipmunkdo a text search for cyCircled:SkinIcon
09:16.33sonsoraok
09:16.36sedatedChipmunkit's about 5 lines below that
09:16.44Mikkeh? ctrl+g jumps to a specific line
09:16.54Mikkat least in win2k it does
09:16.56Mikk=)
09:17.14Diaoin notepad? o_O
09:17.17Diaodoesn't work in win xp
09:17.20AenslaedIs there a mod or macro that can allow you to bind a key to a specific trinket slot?
09:17.31Aenslaedrather than the trinket itself
09:17.31kbh./use 13
09:17.34Diaoyeah
09:17.44Icerothand 14 is the 2nd trinket slot
09:17.45kbhfor slot 1 and ./use 14 for slot2
09:17.49Aenslaedoh man. I had no idea.
09:18.02kbhOR ./use (trinket name)
09:18.11kbhyou can shorten the trinket name too
09:18.12sonsoraok well i try now
09:18.14Mikkbut that makes it swap that trinket in if you're not wearing it
09:18.22kbhnot if you're in combat
09:18.23Aenslaedyeah, the /use trinketname is annoying cause I have 7 different trinkets :/
09:18.40Diaolol
09:18.43kbhand you dont want it to pop a killing blow trinket accidentally
09:19.11Aenslaedicon of unyielding courage, pvp trinket, moroes trinket, adamantite figurine, etc etc.
09:19.25sonsorathx guys it worked
09:19.26Diaoi jsut use trinketmenu personally
09:19.31sedatedChipmunkyea, me too
09:19.32Diaofor quick swapping
09:19.33sonsoramuch appreciated
09:19.35Diaoand bindings
09:19.41sedatedChipmunki think i have 26 trinkets at last count
09:19.44Aenslaedall differen't purpose trinkets, having to switch sets and switch the key it is bound to doesn't happen always
09:19.49kbhengineer? lol
09:19.55sedatedChipmunkyea >8p
09:20.09Aenslaedtrinket menu is ace?
09:20.10kbhyeah, i have crit trinkets and mana efficient trankets and damage trinkets
09:20.13sedatedChipmunkno
09:20.14nevcairielnow this is weird, according to wowwiki druid subtelty only affects healin spells
09:20.21nevcairielthe tooltip says all spells
09:20.25sedatedChipmunknevcairiel: that was changed 2.1
09:20.26Icerothnevcairiel, it was changes in 2.1
09:20.29nevcairielah
09:20.34nevcairielso its all spells now?
09:20.36Mikkfix teh wiki
09:20.38Icerothye
09:20.43nevcairieleven cat form etc?
09:20.48Icerothno
09:20.48Diaocaster spells
09:20.51Diaonot forms
09:20.51nevcairielor doesnt that count as "spelL" ? :p
09:20.52nevcairielah oki
09:21.09sedatedChipmunkidjit!
09:21.22Icerothso i guess it's safe to say threat in caster is -0.06*sublety ranks
09:21.36nevcairiel0.04
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09:21.49sedatedChipmunkpsh no
09:21.55sedatedChipmunkwhat if the druid is stabbing
09:22.14sedatedChipmunkin treeform!
09:22.16Icerothoh right 0.04, the dispel thing is 0.06 in same talent
09:22.16Diaolol
09:22.34sedatedChipmunkmy druid stabs in treeform =(
09:22.41Diaoin raids?
09:22.48sedatedChipmunkno, dungeons
09:22.49nevcairielwhen i am bored i do that as well
09:23.02IcerothJoW!
09:23.04sedatedChipmunkit's his way of telling us we're not killing fast enough or not taking enough damage
09:23.25sedatedChipmunk*shuffle shuffle shuffle*
09:23.27sedatedChipmunk*stab*
09:23.28nevcairieli wonder, if i just do the heals, and school nature and school arcane
09:23.32nevcairielthat should get all spells
09:23.34nevcairielright?
09:23.46Diaoyeah
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09:23.50Diaoheals are nature too technically
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09:23.58Diaobut dunno if they're classified differently
09:24.07nevcairielnot sure either :P
09:24.34sedatedChipmunksubtlety thorns!
09:24.50nevcairielit prolly wont affect the thorn dmg
09:24.59Diaothorns threat is attributed to the person it's casted on
09:25.04sedatedChipmunkyea
09:25.07Icerothdoes thorns dmg even generate threat?
09:26.03sedatedChipmunkand if it's on the druid...!
09:26.03sedatedChipmunkno idea
09:26.03Diaolol
09:26.03sedatedChipmunki'm just trying to be difficult
09:26.03Diaoit generates threat equal to the damage it does
09:26.03Diaowhich is very minor
09:26.03Icerothit is (or at least was) reflected damage so i'm not sure at all that it causes any threat
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09:26.03sedatedChipmunkugh, birds chirping
09:26.03sedatedChipmunknight guys
09:26.03Diaonight
09:26.09Diaohm
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09:26.11Diaowell
09:26.14Mikkit generates threat
09:26.16Diaoall the paladin abilities generate threat
09:26.20Diaoand they're reflective damage as well
09:26.21Mikkbut yeah it's minor as heck
09:26.30Mikkfeel free to test it out tho
09:26.42Mikklet something hit the druid for a bit, slap on a small heal
09:26.43Mikkstuff WILL stay on the druid
09:26.56Mikk(don't be in bearform btw.. then you'll generate threat from rage gains)
09:27.44Icerothoh, another thing: doesn't healing aggro get distributed to all mobs engaged?
09:28.02nevcairielyes
09:28.12nevcairielhealing aggro is a bitch to track
09:28.56Diaowell
09:29.07Diaoimo just track it as if there were only 1 mob in combat
09:29.18Diaohealers shouldn't be pulling agro by just healing anyway
09:30.04Diaounless there's plans for multi-mob threat tracking
09:30.24toddI'm leveling a healer and what I noticed is that tanks in  low level instances don't realize they need to hold aggro on all the mobs instead of just one
09:30.36Mikkorly? =P
09:30.45Mikkfwiw, there's tanks like that running around in outland too
09:30.51todd=/
09:30.58Diaomost people who are tanking for the first time
09:30.59Mikktypically wielding a big mofo 2h axe
09:31.02Diaodon't know how to multi-tank
09:31.27toddalso have a 40 warrior that I tank with.. I love tanking a huge group of mobs with a good healer
09:31.56Mikk<3 healers that start out by shielding you just as you run into a group of 20 insects
09:32.06art3mishahahahah
09:32.13Mikk"woups, 18 insects on the healer instantly, and now i don't have rage either"
09:32.14art3mismy fav is mis timing that
09:33.01Mikkor just healers that think that it is critically important that you stay at 100% at all times
09:33.08Mikkeven when charging into a big clump of mobs
09:33.13art3mis"sorry it was more mana efficient to res you than heal you"
09:33.17Mikkhaha
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09:33.37CIA-2203whitetooth * r37137 10TankPoints/ (About TankPoints 2.0.txt TankPoints.lua):
09:33.38CIA-22TankPoints: 2.6.7
09:33.38CIA-22- Updated Taiwan localization by Whitetooth
09:33.38CIA-22- Improved stat scanning
09:33.44kbhanyone run tooltip exchange?
09:33.46art3misi used to keep those running shoes from av just for such occasions of them getting pissy
09:34.01art3mistrade them the shoes and say "keep bitching and youll need these to run back from death"
09:35.29art3mis<-- bad priest
09:35.29art3misthe glowy black gives it away though ;P
09:35.29art3misthats the other funny thing to do in pugs
09:35.29art3misif they cant keep aggro off me while im healing i switch to shadow and start ve healing
09:35.29art3misthey complain
09:35.29art3mis"learn to heal noob!!"
09:35.34art3mis"learn to control aggro"
09:35.41Mikkve healing ftw when tanks suck yeah
09:35.45Mikk<- levelling a noob priest atm
09:35.50art3misheh in shdow i can take a beating
09:35.55art3misout of it and im worse than a mage ;P
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09:36.35art3mispriests are by far the most fun to play though
09:36.44art3misi lurv my pries
09:36.45art3mist
09:36.52Mikki dunno. i lurv my druid.
09:37.06Mikk(levelled a lock, pally and rogue to 60 before the druid, which is currently my main in tbc)
09:37.31kbhanyone who ises tooltip exchange: you knwo the little mini tooltip that goes under tooltips that says who they're off, can i get that on all tooltips?
09:37.49art3misdurids are fun too
09:37.59art3mispallys are so friggin rigged it isnt funny
09:38.12toddthought they got the nerf bat in 2.1 for healing?
09:38.20Mikkmini nerf
09:38.21art3misi mean in general solo play
09:38.33Mikkless mana back on crit heals
09:38.38art3misat 50 i can take 6 mobs from the first farm in wpl
09:38.45art3misand thats just wrong
09:38.48Mikkhehe
09:38.49art3mison soooo many levels
09:39.02art3misand im a prot pally for gods sake
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09:39.06Mikkaye but stick in 2 mobs that heal there
09:39.10Mikkand you lose
09:39.22Mikki lost count of how often the asses in kurzen's camp killed me
09:39.38art3misi watched a paladin at the broken manaforge fighting ether guys
09:39.44art3mis14
09:39.47Mikkhehe
09:39.48art3mis14 friggin mobs
09:39.57art3misand he came out with more hp/mp than he went in with
09:39.59art3missolo
09:40.00art3mis!!!
09:40.10art3misi get over 4 and im screwed
09:40.37art3misthe best part about priests is you know EXACTLY when things go badly
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09:40.55art3misright after you do something youll say or think "oops"
09:41.01Mikkidd. exactly 12 seconds after you hit the fear button.
09:41.08art3mishehe yezah
09:41.13moonsorrow[Ammo]: ping
09:41.15art3misoh good he brought back friends
09:41.33kebinusan_thats just called chain pulling
09:41.35art3misquaff shield heal mb smite shield run
09:41.46art3misrenew
09:41.52art3misrun back to corpse
09:41.54Mikkdesperate prayer
09:41.55art3mis;)
09:42.01art3misim undead
09:42.08art3misyou cheater pants!
09:42.08DvdKhlgGuten Morgen zusammen
09:42.13Mikkhehe
09:42.20DvdKhloops wrong channel :)
09:42.24art3misalthough devouring and wotf rule
09:42.27Fisker-How is Kencowmened coming along?
09:42.35art3misi havent touched devouring in a coons age
09:43.04art3misbut i think its bed time now
09:43.08art3misciao kiddies
09:43.25[Ammo]moonsorrow: pong
09:44.07Mikkhmm... is there a reason why Cartographer's default strata is "HIGH" rather than "FULLSCREEN"?
09:44.50moonsorrowhttp://imageigloo.com/images/5803violation.jpg
09:45.01moonsorrowthere seems to be a bug in the display
09:45.55[Ammo]adirelle fucked it up, it shows people with 0 now
09:46.23[Ammo]unless those people actually did healing
09:46.38ckknightMikk: yes, because there's no good reason to when it's not fullscreen.
09:46.39moonsorrowbut actually I'm in a group of 5 people
09:46.44[Ammo]then it's even more serious
09:47.16[Ammo]moonsorrow: did any of those people do healing? or what?
09:47.24[Ammo]and are you running the latest
09:47.32[Ammo]need more info apart from screeny :
09:47.38moonsorrowsure, updated 30 mins ago
09:47.46moonsorrowand no, the warlock didn't do any healing
09:47.55[Ammo]nor did the shaman
09:47.56[Ammo]?
09:48.07moonsorrowcorrect
09:48.12[Ammo]k
09:48.18CIA-2203ckknight * r37139 10Parser-3.0/Parser-3.0/Parser-3.0.lua: Parser-3.0 - add some events, add the Enchant eventType
09:48.29Mikkckknight: mmm yeah but there's plenty of other addons living in "high"
09:48.40ckknight...so?
09:48.45moonsorrowbut the weird thing was that there wasn't healing shown till I saw the other warlock. Then for him and me the bar showed up
09:48.51Mikkit looks icky when stuff melts together with carto? =P
09:48.58ckknightmaybe you want to have the map up when doing other things
09:49.18Mikkaye
09:50.06ckknightgood tiems
09:50.09ckknighttimes*
09:51.03[Ammo]moonsorrow: adirelle complicated things a great deal
09:51.04[Ammo]meh
09:51.08kebinusan_something keeps turning my helm graphic back on when I mount ;-(
09:51.20nevcairielthats closetgnome
09:51.23nevcairielits kinda weird right now :P
09:51.30nevcairielwhen ever you equip a set
09:51.38nevcairielit turns on helmet and cloak
09:51.55moonsorrow[Ammo]: and additionaly, locally resetting my data in the group (I'm not the leader) resets to exactly that view with the two bars
09:51.56kebinusan_ewww
09:52.06[Ammo]you have to <mod>-Click and gray out the helm etc
09:52.11Icerothnevcairiel, oh, i keep getting that as well
09:52.15Icerothteh annoyance
09:52.23[Ammo]undocumented featurecrap
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09:52.49nevcairielah
09:52.51nevcairielalt-clicking
09:52.56nevcairielthat really needs documentation :P
09:53.59AdirelleI'm actually in a heroic instance
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09:54.12Adirellebut I'll take a look
09:54.14Borked|RaiderRaider_DB.DKPDB.LootAnnounce = "BIDDING ON ..x1.. Whisper me !bid|!down|!remove"; SendChatMessage(string.gsub(Raider_DB.DKPDB.LootAnnounce, "..x1..", item.ItemLink), "RAID");
09:54.15Borked|RaiderSendChatMessage(): Invalid escape code in chat message
09:54.16Adirelleafter
09:54.20Borked|Raideranyone able to tell me why ?
09:54.26nymbiait applies for sets where the cloak and helm arent active, too
09:54.28Adirellenotice that vhaar have reviewed the patch before I commit
09:54.28[Ammo]Adirelle: it should not show data that is 0
09:54.45[Ammo]Adirelle: and it never did
09:54.45nymbiai shouldnt have to switch that for my mount set >.,
09:54.45[Ammo]that's the problem atm I think
09:54.57Adirelleshouldn't be to hard to fix
09:55.30Nimblenymbia: heh yeah
09:55.55[Ammo]Adirelle: I was thinking line 1034 > 0 instead of >= 0
09:56.42[Ammo]yup that fixes it :p
09:56.53Adirelleyep... i had some trouble with crit rate
09:57.10CIA-2203ammo * r37140 10Violation/Violation.lua: Violation: we're not interested in 0 data.
09:57.20[Ammo]hitcritrate is the most useless module ever
09:57.24Adirellewhen you actually hit something without any crit, it hides the line instead of showing 0%, that's actually you real crit rate
09:57.38Adirelleheard some people asked for it :p
09:57.43Adirelledon't use it myself tho
09:58.08[Ammo]it's more of a personal statistic than anything to do with what violation is for
09:58.22vhaarrAdirelle: I didn't actually review it, I just said you could check it in :P
09:58.49Adirellevhaarr: lol, misunderstood then :D
09:59.27vhaarrkebinusan_: yeah some people wanted this hide/show cloak/helm stuff, so I made something experimental, and it just fucks up everything
09:59.43Borked|Raiderno one able to tell why i get the SendChatMessage(): Invalid escape code in chat message
09:59.47vhaarrkebinusan_: http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=2957.msg105102#msg105102
09:59.49CIA-2203ckknight * r37141 10Parser-3.0/Parser-3.0/Parser-3.0.lua: Parser-3.0 - add Reputation eventType, no longer in notifications.
09:59.49vhaarrI think Iæ
09:59.54vhaarrI think I'll just remove it again.
10:00.14nevcairielsend them to HatTrick
10:00.19vhaarryeah
10:00.52kebinusan_yeah I wear a spellstrike hood I never want to show that embarassing thing
10:01.13CIA-2203nevcairiel * r37142 10HatTrick/HatTrick.toc: HatTrick: toc 20100
10:02.32Borked|RaiderInterface\AddOns\Ace2\AceComm-2.0\AceComm-2.0.lua:2585: SendChatMessage(): Invalid escape code in chat message
10:02.33CIA-2203rabbit * r37143 10ClosetGnome/ClosetGnome.lua: ClosetGnome: Revert the hide/show stuff for now, use HatTrick or similar instead.
10:03.41Icerothwhat's with the svn mirror btw and any eta when will it work right again?
10:04.12vhaarrKebinusan: ^
10:04.36Kebinusannice
10:05.13renchapIceroth: it works, but i must sync manualy
10:05.20renchapwaiting for Kaelten or pastamancer
10:06.22Borked|Raiderbaa, i just hate errors which make no sence :/
10:06.33theoddone33yay the huks arena video is finally out
10:06.36CIA-2203anea * r37144 10SpamSentry/ (20 files in 4 dirs):
10:06.36CIA-22SpamSentry 20070526:
10:06.36CIA-22- Updated for patch 2.1
10:06.36CIA-22- New GUI for spamreporting to reflect changes in the Blizzard interface
10:06.36CIA-22- Party-invites from people that haven't whispered you (or you them) or that are not on your friends or guildlist are now ignored. This feature can be turned of via the options menu.
10:07.08Icerothuh
10:07.13Icerothkinda nasty default feature
10:07.48Icerothat least i have lots of occasions where someone else asks me to join the group and leader is different guy
10:07.51nymbiai dont really see why you'd need it post-2.1
10:08.00nymbiaright-click -> report, done
10:08.21Icerothit's not the reporting, it's the ignoring
10:08.33Mikkdefault off on that one please
10:08.57Mikkor.. well...
10:09.18nymbiayeah that sould definitely be default off
10:09.27nymbias/sould/should/
10:09.27Mikkactually, you could have it "semi-on"
10:09.32nymbiaand then some.
10:09.38Mikkmove it to a chatframe notification only
10:09.42Mikkwith a clickable "accept"
10:10.01Iceroththat'd be good
10:10.02CIA-2203ckknight * r37145 10Parser-3.0/Parser-3.0/Parser-3.0.lua: Parser-3.0 - add Honor eventType, no longer in notifications.
10:10.20nymbiawhy is it keeping track of who whispered you, anyway? >.<
10:10.40Mikkcause it does /who on people to determine if they're level 1
10:10.42Mikkand caches it
10:11.04Borked|RaiderSendChatMessage("BIDDING ON ..x1.. Whisper me !bid|!down|!remove", "RAID"); Works fine. but trying to print Raider_DB.DKPDB.LootAnnounce - where its set in saved variables Raider_DB.DKPDB.LootAnnounce = "BIDDING ON ..x1.. Whisper me !bid|!down|!remove";
10:11.06Borked|RaiderAceComm-2.0\AceComm-2.0.lua:2585: SendChatMessage(): Invalid escape code in chat message
10:11.24nymbiasounds like taking a sledgehammer to a now mostly non-existant problem.
10:11.27Borked|Raiderits the exact same string
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10:12.27ckknightBorked|Raider: for one, you're out of date
10:12.41Borked|Raiderproperly
10:12.51Borked|Raiderbut its nothing to do with the problem
10:13.14Borked|Raideri just removed the ace2 lib, so it used the lib from that map catografer or something
10:13.36vhaarrIt's probably the pipes.
10:13.45Borked|Raiderthe proplem also accore with newest versions
10:14.13nymbialay off the pipe, Borked|Raider
10:14.14nymbia;)
10:14.15Borked|Raideri just dont get why it make error on something which should be the same string, only diff is that one is from the loaded saved variables
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10:14.32Borked|Raidernymbia, not sure what you mean?
10:15.05nymbiaBorked|Raider: something changed about the string in the process of saving
10:15.25Borked|Raiderif i print the string to my chatwindow its the same
10:15.34nymbiano, it's not
10:15.37ckknightBorked|Raider: it's not
10:15.40Borked|Raider:(
10:15.45ckknightBorked|Raider: escape all your pipes as ||
10:15.47ckknightinstead of |
10:16.04Borked|Raider| is a escabe shar?
10:16.06Borked|Raiderchar
10:16.10nevcairielyes
10:16.12Borked|Raiderlol
10:16.21Borked|Raiderbelived it was \
10:16.37nymbiaboth
10:16.41Borked|Raiderlol
10:16.46nymbiathey do different things.
10:16.47Borked|Raiderwell makes alot of sence
10:16.48nymbialook it up.
10:16.50Borked|Raiderye
10:17.03Borked|Raideri just had no clue that it was a escape char
10:17.26nymbiaever looked at an item link?
10:17.34nymbiaor colored a text line?
10:18.08Borked|Raiderye
10:18.18Borked|Raiderbut never realy thinked about it
10:18.43Borked|Raiderbut thx anyway
10:18.51Borked|Raiderand pipe is what a | is called?
10:18.58Borked|Raider:)
10:19.24Fisker-Anyone got an idea why IncomingHeals aren't showing for half of our raid or something?
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10:22.49Ominoushey
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10:25.13ZealotOnAStickfisker - raid where?  Are you very spread out?
10:26.00CIA-2203whitetooth * r37146 10StatLogicLib/StatLogic-1.0/StatLogic-1.0.lua:
10:26.00CIA-22StatLogicLib:
10:26.00CIA-22- Updated German localization
10:26.04ZealotOnAStickLast I was aware, Blizzard removed having combat logs beyond default range.
10:26.24Nimblecan anyone direct me to that post that was talking about game crashing when you alt-tab and how to fix it
10:26.40CIA-2203whitetooth * r37147 10RatingBuster/About RatingBuster.txt:
10:26.40CIA-22RatingBuster:
10:26.40CIA-22- Updated German localization
10:26.45ZealotOnAStickyeah, gimme a min
10:26.58Fisker-ZealotOnAStick no 'm in karazhan :P
10:26.59CIA-2203whitetooth * r37148 10TankPoints/About TankPoints 2.0.txt:
10:26.59CIA-22TankPoints:
10:26.59CIA-22- Updated German localization
10:27.04Fisker-we weren't far away as far as i know
10:27.15Fisker-but the problem is we got a couple of users that it can detect for some users and the other users can detect us
10:27.28ZealotOnAStickhttp://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=105812262&sid=1
10:27.34Fisker-we have like 6 with the addon, 3 of them can see the 3 but not us 3 and we can see us 3 but not them
10:27.49DiaoZealotOnAStick only for creature effects
10:27.52Diaodoesn't happen for player
10:27.55ZealotOnAStickWeird.  *shrug*
10:29.23NimbleZealotOnAStick: thanks, was happenign to a friend of mine
10:30.39CIA-2203ckknight * r37149 10Parser-3.0/Parser-3.0/Parser-3.0.lua: Parser-3.0 - add Experience eventType, no longer in notifications.
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10:33.50Solehmm, thats weird, UNIT_HEALTH isnt reporting target health for me
10:34.23Soleit is when I register it with Expo, but not in gladiator
10:34.27CIA-2203anea * r37150 10SpamSentry/ (SpamSentry.toc core.lua): SpamSentry 20070527: Corrected version number.
10:35.36Mikk"reporting"?
10:35.48MikkUNIT_HEALTH doesn't come with a health value
10:35.59Mikkonly a unit id
10:36.04MikkOr did you mean something different?
10:37.03CIA-2203ammo * r37151 10Violation/ (Violation.toc libs/): Violation: add Threat-1.0 based Threat module.
10:38.16CIA-2203ammo * r37152 10Violation/Threat/ (. Threat.lua): Violation: oops actually commit threat module
10:39.07Chompers:D
10:41.28CIA-2203ominous * r37153 10Babble-2.2/Babble-Spell-2.2/Babble-Spell-2.2.lua: Babble-2.2: Spell: add trinket buffs
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10:43.53Ominous[Ammo], does Threat-1.0 work now?
10:45.00nevcairielthe basics work, but it needs alot of data to catch all threat, and someone has to input that data :P
10:45.26Ominousk
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10:54.13[Ammo]hmm DogTag not working but without errors, and #132 exception on reloadui
10:54.13[Ammo]meh
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10:57.48CIA-2203gamefaq * r37156 10TinyTipOptions/TinyTipChatLocale_deDE.lua: TinyTipOptions: Updated and Changed deDE Local to UTF-8
10:57.53Sarozwhats the best mod to profile another mod?
10:58.01CIA-2203ckknight * r37157 10Parser-3.0/Parser-3.0/Parser-3.0.lua: Parser-3.0 - add Gain eventType, no longer in notifications.
11:01.06TheKarnhow can i set the shaman color back to the way it used to be?
11:02.40CIA-2203saroz * r37158 10sRaidFrames/sRaidFrames.lua: sRaidFrames: More performance tweaks
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11:06.52evl[Ammoo]: same hre; getting some wierd aura stuff
11:06.58evltextures covering entire frames on buffs etc.
11:08.16SaladinAnyone know how to fix the incredibly annoying cartographer bug?
11:08.29CIA-2203mikk * r37159 10Cartographer/Cartographer_LookNFeel/LookNFeel.lua:
11:08.29CIA-22Cartographer_LookNFeel:
11:08.29CIA-22- Add Strata configuration
11:08.29CIA-22- Add "Auto" strata (default setting) which goes "MEDIUM" when scale<0.6 and "FULLSCREEN" when larger
11:08.38Mikk\o/
11:08.51Saladin\o/ INDEED
11:09.22TheKarnif i make changes to RAID_CLASS_COLORS, how do i make things use the new color? (this is after the ui has loaded)
11:09.36MikkMost stuff uses the table live
11:09.40MikkThose that don't... tough =P
11:09.42OminousWOOOOOOOOOT; got all my gear back
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11:10.00ckknightMikk: pimp
11:10.09TheKarnPitBull doesnt change color :P
11:11.13vhaarrTheKarn: Beware that changing RCC will taint.
11:11.20vhaarrRaid UI ++.
11:12.04TheKarnwhere can i change it? the new shaman color sucks ass
11:12.05Punkie`:(
11:12.06ckknightTheKarn: you know you can set PitBull's class colors arbitrarily.
11:12.22TheKarnnope
11:12.29Punkie`I don't see why people just can't get used to the class colour :p
11:12.50Punkie`I know it has crappy contrast but meh, what ya gonna do
11:12.52CIA-2203ckknight * r37160 10Parser-3.0/Parser-3.0/Parser-3.0.lua: Parser-3.0 - add Aura eventType.
11:13.00FinPunkie`: change the colours
11:13.04ckknightTheKarn: look in the colors section
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11:27.55CIA-2203totalpackage * r37161 10FuBar_Usage/Usage.lua:
11:27.55CIA-22FuBar_Usage:
11:27.55CIA-22- lessen column header text to reduce column width
11:29.48CIA-2203ammo * r37162 10Violation/Violation.toc: Violation: toc tweak
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11:36.13CIA-2203skyboat * r37163 10FuBar_MailFu/ (. FuBar_MailFu.toc Libs/):
11:36.13CIA-22FuBar_MailFu:
11:36.13CIA-22- Removed Localization.lua reference from .toc file as it doesn't exist, all localizations are defined inside Core.lua =)
11:36.13CIA-22- Cleaned up externals path, no Libs folder should appear when running dis-embedded now.
11:37.42Recluseckk around still?
11:37.46ckknightyes
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11:39.28Recluseon pitbull sometimes it's not registering the interactlines for whatever reason - mainly the red ones. also, i just trained a new rank of heal on my shaman and it still predicts the last rank (when showing the green bar if you know what i mean)
11:39.50ckknightnot my module
11:40.12Recluseah, figured it was all the same :)
11:41.06CIA-2203saroz * r37164 10sRaidFrames/sRaidFrames.lua: sRaidFrames: What's this doing here?
11:43.23SoleI love bugs which make no sense
11:44.34CIA-2203ckknight * r37165 10Parser-3.0/Parser-3.0/Parser-3.0.lua: Parser-3.0 - fix up events
11:49.43Ominousckknight: are you aware of the cart bug when disabling look and feel
11:49.51ckknightyes
11:49.54Ominousk
11:49.55Soleitd be cool to have a timing fuction which would run function X, Y ammount of times in the time of Z
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11:50.12Soleso run foo(boo) 5 times in 1 second thens top
11:50.24SoleI guess I can do that with ScheduleRepeatingEvent
11:50.25[Ammo]Sole: metrognome can do that
11:50.40Sole[Ammo]: Ooh, I must take a look then. Thanks
11:51.07ckknightI don't see the point, why not just do it repeatedly then check after a second?
11:51.49Solejust the way my brain works
11:52.05ckknightso tell me where it's useful...
11:52.39SoleI want to smoothly set the value of a status bar
11:52.43Soleover the time of 1 second
11:53.45Soleits quite easily doable with repeated events but Im just being difficult
11:55.17Ominousckknight: what is the advantage of having babble spell set to sue literal translations only
11:55.37Tornhoofckknight, is there any simple reason for pitbull not showing the fontstrings on the unitframes sometimes?
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11:55.49ckknightthat's it, you assholes need to stop fucking bugging me.
11:55.53ckknightleave me the fuck be.
11:56.16Ominousckknight: sorry i was just asking as i was interested
11:56.42CIA-2203beerke * r37166 10KingOfTheJungle/:
11:56.42CIA-22KingOfTheJungle :
11:56.42CIA-22- Added missing library
11:56.49Solerofl
11:56.53ckknightbasically, by erroring early it solves issues later, especially due to using reverse translations
11:56.54SoleI think I got him annoyed
11:57.16Ominousckknight: ok thanks
11:58.36Solegnite
11:59.09CIA-2203ckknight * r37167 10Parser-3.0/Parser-3.0/Parser-3.0.lua: Parser-3.0 - optimizations
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12:07.35Fino/~  I've got a brand new combine harvester  ~/o
12:07.58Fino/~  and I'll give you the keys  ~/o
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12:10.30CIA-2203ammo * r37168 10Violation/Violation.lua: Violation: removed excessive table fill
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12:14.58CIA-2203ckknight * r37169 10Parser-3.0/Parser-3.0/Parser-3.0.lua: Parser-3.0 - optimizations. Make sure to convert strings to numbers properly.
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12:16.10iLx`afk|imPwot wot wot
12:16.26iLx`afk|imPyou guys should rly move to quakenet imo -__-
12:16.34Mikknot really
12:17.00MorghusWhy does everyone say that, and what does quakenet have that other servers don't? =P
12:17.11Mikkquakenet doesn't exactly have SVN reporting services and stuff
12:17.16iLx`afk|imPquakenet = gamer server
12:17.20Mikkit's a network for gamers
12:17.27Mikkfreenet = network for developers
12:17.28iLx`afk|imP90% of all gamers is their
12:17.30Matrix110quakenet sucks
12:17.32Matrix110dont move their
12:17.34Morghus"Everyone else is there" doesn't hold water, since it's esy to log on another one :P
12:17.41nevcairielquakenet netsplits like every 2 minutes
12:17.42iLx`afk|imPyes i know
12:17.44Morghus*easy
12:17.46Matrix110ye nevcairiel
12:17.59iLx`afk|imPbut its so anoying connecting to another server
12:17.59sbuquakenet average age = 15...
12:18.04Mikkone of the reasons for it netsplitting so damn often is because 90% of people there are 15 year old gamers =)
12:18.13MorghusI don't think it does an age-check :P
12:18.37Chompersit should
12:18.42Mikkwell you can't be older than 15 mentally if you think fucking over an irc network just so you can get ops in a channel is a good way of passing your time
12:18.43iLx`afk|imPatleast we have bouncers
12:18.50iLx`afk|imP:P
12:19.07iLx`afk|imPbut anyway
12:19.10iLx`afk|imPwhy i am here
12:19.12Matrix110wow bouncers woho
12:19.14CIA-2203ckknight * r37170 10Parser-3.0/Parser-3.0/Parser-3.0.lua: Parser-3.0 - Honor eventType now has a field isHonorable
12:19.43iLx`afk|imPdoes anyone know what addons are not comatible with dr dmg
12:19.47CIA-2203ckknight * r37171 10Parser-3.0/Parser-3.0/Parser-3.0.lua: Parser-3.0 - bugfix
12:21.04sbuAntiarc: prayer of mending doesnt cause any threat for the caster afaik
12:21.52CIA-2203ckknight * r37172 10Parser-3.0/Parser-3.0/Parser-3.0.lua: Parser-3.0 - optimization
12:23.14Tornhoofyah sbu it works like shaman earthshield it should not generate aggro for the caster but for the target
12:23.21sburight
12:24.36CIA-2203ckknight * r37173 10Parser-3.0/Parser-3.0/Parser-3.0.lua: Parser-3.0 - add sourcePvP/recipientPvP to Heal
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12:30.31CIA-2203mikk * r37174 10Cartographer/Cartographer_LookNFeel/LookNFeel.lua:
12:30.31CIA-22Cartographer_LookNFeel:
12:30.31CIA-22- Slight bug fix to previous checkin: changing zone with the map open would cause the map background to end up in front of the details. Fixed.
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12:33.13smallbrain[Ammoo]: violation's threat module doesn't require threat-1.0, right?
12:33.20MikkOn a sidenote, that bug fix incidentally also fixed the problem with outside world maps ending up on top of instance map, so that bug is now also fixed.
12:33.28smallbrainMikk: yay!
12:33.50Mikksigh i take that back
12:35.19Mikkwonder wth i did just now to make it behave
12:35.22Mikkcause it's not behaving anymore :S
12:36.26SarozGnarfoz, 99% chance it does
12:36.50Azurewrathmhm.. someone know a svn mirror that is not stuck at revision 37165?
12:36.53Gnarfozyeah, looking at the code, it seems a bit on the light side to actually do something without the lib
12:37.03MikkAHA
12:37.11Mikkzoom out to world view first, then goto instance = worky
12:37.24Mikkperhaps not so strange since the world view doesn't have map components on it
12:38.21GnarfozI still wonder what broke it in the first place
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12:45.25CIA-2203ckknight * r37175 10Parser-3.0/Parser-3.0/Parser-3.0.lua: Parser-3.0 - optimization
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12:49.11CIA-2203ckknight * r37176 10Parser-3.0/Parser-3.0/Parser-3.0.lua: Parser-3.0 - optimization by coercing strings to numbers without the overhead of the tonumber function call, e.g. '5'+0 == 5 is faster than tonumber('5') == 5, but errors horribly if the string is not a number.
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12:55.05CIA-2203ckknight * r37177 10Parser-3.0/Parser-3.0/Parser-3.0.lua: Parser-3.0 - remove dev debug lines
12:59.13CIA-2203ammo * r37178 10SimpleChatMods/playernames.lua: SimpleChatMods: switch to new shaman color, but make the table configurable from myconfig.lua through SCM_PLAYERNAMES_COLORS. old shaman color available in playernames.lua (commented out)
13:04.15CIA-2203ckknight * r37179 10Parser-3.0/Parser-3.0/Parser-3.0.lua: Parser-3.0 - slight optimizations
13:11.25MorghusAnyone been able to test how far Quartz is able to replace HotMan2?
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13:15.28Sarozckknight is on a roll
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13:18.22CIA-2203moonsorrow * r37180 10Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0.lua:
13:18.22CIA-22Threat-1.0:
13:18.22CIA-22- don't add non-existent pets to the party/raid table
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13:19.50Azurewrathmhm.. is Threat-1.0 used in any addon yet?
13:20.14vhaarrViolation can display data from it now.
13:20.15moonsorrowviolation
13:21.07Gnarfozso, that basically enables violation to be a threat meter? neato. (not that those are needed, but for those who insist... ^^)
13:21.08Azurewrathmhm.. sounds nice
13:21.22vhaarrGnarfoz: yes
13:21.45Gnarfozon another note: what's the deal with the line in the topic regarding unit frames freezing wow?
13:21.45Azurewrathdoes it grab threat from KTM, too?
13:23.02vhaarrno
13:23.06vhaarrGnarfoz: Blizzard bug.
13:23.08ckknightAzurewrath: not yet, but that's on the books
13:23.35Gnarfozvhaarr: k :) (because I didn't notice any freezing ^^)
13:23.36Azurewrathgreat :)
13:24.57CAL|Smeltngod.. all this talking going on this early
13:25.00CAL|Smeltnlol
13:25.01Stephmwckknight: question with pitbull, what controls the frame dragging mouse action?
13:25.02TheKarnanyone got a link to the enGB client download? my mate is on trial and is wasting days trying to get it down from the blizzard torrent (thanks to packet shaping)
13:25.38Fincheck WoWWiki for patch mirror pages, they might have something useful
13:25.48dottedhttp://www.wowwiki.com/Patch_mirrors
13:25.49Finthe places hosting patch mirrors, that is
13:26.04CAL|Smeltnwho works on Prat?
13:26.35Findark forces from beyond the netherworld
13:27.06Finwhy'd you ask?
13:28.03CAL|Smeltnlol
13:28.04CAL|SmeltnI am having a problem with the fubar addon for prat not showing up at all
13:28.04Fingot the latest updates for Prat, FuBar, any standalone libs you're using, etc?
13:28.20CAL|Smeltnyeah I been updating it
13:28.21CAL|Smeltn2 times a day
13:28.22CAL|Smeltnlol
13:28.33FinFuBar as well?
13:28.33dottedi dont have it either
13:28.40CAL|Smeltnyes
13:28.42CAL|Smeltnit used to be there
13:28.44CAL|Smeltnbefore 2.1
13:28.50CAL|Smeltnnow since 2.1 there is no prat fubar
13:29.02Findoes it show up in the right click menu for FuBar?
13:29.13Finthe one listing all the FuBar modules, that is
13:29.25CAL|Smeltndoesnt show up in fubar at all
13:29.32CAL|Smeltnif you look at your fubar plugins in game
13:29.36CAL|Smeltnno listing for prat
13:30.01Finif it doesn't, sounds like your install might've broken with the file layout changes, try deleting all prat related folders from your addons dir and reinstalling (save a copy of your SavedVariables files first)
13:30.21Fin"file layout" isn't what I meant
13:30.35Finbut I can't think of a better description
13:30.36Finanyway
13:30.38Fintry that
13:31.20Sarozhrrrm, Threat-1.0 might be the one thing that will make Violation popular
13:32.04TheKarntbh the fact Violation is Ace and SWStats is getting bulky (imo) is a reason for it to be popular
13:32.06TheKarnis it usable yet?
13:32.23Sarozmeeeh
13:32.27Sarozneeds sync'ing
13:32.30Sarozneed more people to use it
13:32.43hastesync'ing isn't really needed
13:33.02hasteI used Recap on Doomwalker, and had close to exactly the same information as a sync'd damage meter
13:33.04SarozGUI could use a bit more love too
13:33.05TheKarnso what is Threat-1.0? just a library for calculating threat?
13:33.05CAL|Smeltnso Violation is going to be just like SWStats?
13:33.07haste1-10 in difference
13:33.18SarozViolation has threat aswell
13:33.21Sarozthats gonna be so sweet
13:33.24CAL|Smeltnso
13:33.32CAL|Smeltnits going to be a damage meter and threat meter?
13:33.41CAL|Smeltnso it will replace swstats and ktm?
13:33.48Sarozye
13:33.52Sarozand maybe more
13:33.54CAL|Smeltnwow
13:33.57CAL|Smeltnsign me up for that one
13:34.03TheKarnis it ready to screw over my UI?
13:34.05Finplus, it's called "Violation"
13:34.16SarozGUI needs some love IMO
13:34.21CAL|Smeltnyeah name makes a addon
13:34.25CAL|Smeltnthats for sure
13:34.30Finthat and the code
13:34.34Finbut names are important!
13:34.41CAL|Smeltnwhen is it ready for us to use?
13:34.45Saroznow?
13:34.52Finimagine if it didn't have a name! eh? see!
13:34.53CAL|SmeltnWTF? Serious?
13:34.56Sarozeh yes
13:35.00Sarozmaybe not the threat
13:35.03Sarozbut the other stuff is
13:35.27CAL|Smeltnwho is workign on it?
13:35.32Sarozammo and vhaarr
13:35.36CAL|Smeltnnice
13:36.11CAL|Smeltnwonder if this the addon vhaarr was working on wanting to make months ago
13:37.47TheKarnyup think it was
13:38.23MorghusWhat was Violation again?
13:38.40Saroz-.-
13:38.50dotteddamage/healing/threat/whatever meter
13:39.01TheKarnis it possible to have multiple windows?
13:39.12Sarozno
13:39.13dotteddoubt it
13:39.19Sarozit could be though
13:39.33TheKarnreally would like to have both threat and DPS shown
13:39.59Saroztrue true
13:40.05Gnarfozas it's all modular, how hard could that be ;)
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13:40.23Mikki don't think i'd want a module for that
13:40.33Mikkjust a question of being able to spawn more copies of the bar window
13:40.42Mikkwhich should be supported in the base code
13:41.19CAL|Smeltnoh yeah
13:41.24CAL|Smeltn[9:39:am] <TheKarn> really would like to have both threat and DPS shown
13:41.27CAL|Smeltndefinately
13:41.29Gnarfozactually, that part is not yet separated out
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13:42.43snurregmornin'
13:43.14Gnarfozy helo thar
13:43.43CAL|Smeltnmornin
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13:52.23CIA-2203rabbit * r37182 10Violation/Violation.lua: Violation: Some cleanup, needs more work.
13:53.22CIA-2203damjau * r37183 10Buffalo2/ (4 files in 2 dirs): Buffalo2: add koKR local
13:53.53LateriaHi, I use waterfall to build my addon GUI. I add a ace table with a field with type = "header". In this field, I add a itemLink (from GetItemInfo()). The result is pretty good as the header print the item. But I cannot "click" on it. Is there any way I can click on it ?
13:54.19snurredoes Violation sync and stuff?
13:54.26Punkie`duh
13:55.32vhaarrLateria: type='header' doesn't give you a clickable entry, read the AceOptions table spec.
13:55.46Punkie`I miss the bright orange Violation header, I can't make it that colour again :'(
13:56.03SarozViolation throws and error because Threat-1.0 needs BabbleSpellTalent
13:56.12CAL|Smeltnok
13:56.18CAL|Smeltnso I just downloaded WUU
13:56.26CAL|Smeltnand AVG found it to be a virus
13:56.27CAL|Smeltnnice
13:56.31dottedlol
13:56.33CIA-2203alx * r37184 10FuBar_WhoLibFu/: FuBar_WhoLibFu: initial release (part 1)
13:56.37CAL|Smeltnno seriously
13:56.48CAL|SmeltnTrojan horse PSW.Generic4.KTX
13:56.49dottedthats like f-secure claiming a mirc script i made to ba a backdoor :D
13:57.05CAL|SmeltnI have NEVER had AVG detect anything being a virus
13:57.08dottedwhere you download it from?
13:57.19CAL|Smeltnhttp://wuu.vagabonds.info/
13:57.33dottedah wuu
13:57.47renchapwhich version ?
13:58.16CAL|Smeltn1.4.320
13:58.21Gnarfozfalse positives are fun :D
13:58.26CAL|Smeltnneg
13:58.27renchapsee the latest news
13:58.29renchapon the site
13:58.43Saroz[Ammo], ping
13:59.14Lateriavhaar: yes, I know, but heaven if I use a clickable type, this doesn't work
13:59.39[Ammo]pong
14:00.07CAL|Smeltnhehe
14:00.16CAL|SmeltnI am excited to use Violation
14:00.29hypetechso umm...I was playing at 40 FPS, then updated everything with winace updater a few minutes ago, logged back in and I was down to 20 FPS, restored the backup from just before my update, and now I'm back to 40 FPS.....I think there's an issue with something that got updated :p
14:00.30CAL|Smeltngoing in game now to see how ugly vhaarr made it
14:00.34[Ammo]Saroz: hmm, guess I should add that lib :p
14:00.37vhaarrCAL|Smeltn: Ammo made the bar display
14:00.43CAL|Smeltnlol
14:00.47[Ammo]oh noes
14:00.49[Ammo]but I did
14:00.51CAL|Smeltnnotice how quickly you through that one
14:00.52CIA-2203rabbit * r37185 10Violation/Violation.lua: Violation: Bugfix.
14:00.54Fisker-i found out how to avoid durabillity loss on netherspite
14:00.54Fisker-:D
14:01.07hypetechdon't get hit?
14:01.14CAL|Smeltnman vhaarr passed that buck quick
14:01.17Fisker-forget to run in when the other does
14:01.21hypetechhahaha
14:01.22hypetechnice
14:02.10CIA-2203saroz * r37186 10Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0/ClassModules/Paladin.lua: Threat-1.0: Paladins are not rogues
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14:02.35[dRaCo]great, saroz.
14:02.39CAL|Smeltnlmao
14:02.41CAL|Smeltnthats awesome saroz
14:02.45[dRaCo]btw, are u sure?
14:02.45Saroz:p
14:02.46CodayusNetherspite's door is tricky; we wiped twice to it on Friday.  ><
14:02.54|dRiN|What would one recommend to keep track of hots in raids (druid style)/
14:02.56CIA-2203alx * r37187 10FuBar_WhoLibFu/ (FuBar_WhoLibFu.lua FuBar_WhoLibFu.toc icon.tga libs/): FuBar_WhoLibFu: initial release
14:02.59CAL|Smeltnwhat the closing of it?
14:03.11Sarozffs, violation vs. threat error everywhere
14:03.12Sarozbrrrr
14:03.36[Ammo]don't use alpha software
14:03.47Mikkerrrrrrrrrr
14:03.48CAL|Smeltnso do I need to download threat
14:03.54CAL|Smeltnfor use with violation?
14:03.58Mikkthe library that didn't need to exist now has a fubar plugin also?
14:04.01Sarozyou shouldnt
14:04.04CAL|Smeltnk
14:04.05CodayusWell, the first time, someone opened the door when the ground was shaking while we were still buffing, so Netherspite came through to say hi.  I tried to levitate to the floor of the library to escape, but uh...his AoE cancels levitate.  ><
14:04.25CAL|Smeltnhehe
14:04.40CAL|Smeltnyeah all the doors work differently now
14:04.41CodayusThe second time, yeah, the closing of it.  Someone 2 people ended up on Netherspites side, and 8 people on the other side.  Not sure how.
14:04.56CodayusEr, somehow
14:05.08CAL|Smeltnbut hey.. could be worse, you could be like us.. Kill Aran and the door still stay locked
14:05.19Codayus(Note:  2 people can last a surprisingly long time versus netherspite!)
14:05.20Sarozaaaaanyway, disabled violation then :p
14:05.25CAL|Smeltnwe killed him with dots, on the polymorph
14:05.36CodayusPhase 2 is the killer.
14:05.38snurretime to test violation, omen and threat-1.0 in ssc :p
14:05.38CAL|Smeltnand according to a GM it bugged him
14:05.45CodayusCAL|Smeltn: Yep, it does.
14:05.49Mikkwe had a gruop do that too. took 3 hours for a GM to show up and fix it so they could loot & continue
14:06.02CAL|Smeltnso.. we read alot of books in Shades room
14:06.02CodayusSoft reset the instance, kill him again - double loot...
14:06.16CAL|Smeltnactually we cheated
14:06.22CAL|Smeltnwe had a warlock kill himself
14:06.33CIA-2203ammo * r37188 10Violation/ (Violation.toc libs/): Violation: fix missing libs for threat.
14:06.34CAL|Smeltnrun back to outside the door and put a summon portal through the edge of the door
14:06.41Mikkheh
14:06.44CAL|Smeltnwe actually got to loot him since we had ss up
14:07.15CIA-2203alx * r37189 10FuBar_WhoLibFu/libs/:
14:07.15CIA-22FuBar_WhoLibFu:
14:07.15CIA-22- added libs
14:11.11snurreis there a plan to add skill detail breakdown for violation (so you can see how much each ability has done etc)?
14:11.17[Ammo]no
14:11.18[Ammo]never
14:11.22vhaarrindeed
14:11.26Daemonacould anyone with access to the Kael'thas module in BigWigs fix the "DelayedMesage" to "DelayedMessage"
14:11.34[Ammo]I will Daemoon
14:11.46CIA-2203rabbit * r37190 10Violation/ (Violation.lua textures/otravi-close.tga): Violation: Remove the drag handle and some other tuneups.
14:12.16Daemonafunkeh did, cause he added them yesterday ;)
14:12.19Daemona2 occurances
14:12.22vhaarrfucking bastard
14:12.28CIA-2203ammo * r37191 10BigWigs/TheEye/Kaelthas.lua: BigWigs: (Kaelthas) DelayedMesage -> DelayedMessage
14:12.33vhaarrDaemona: What do you want those warnings for anyway?
14:12.35Sarozfunkah is teh master of typos
14:12.44[Ammo]euhm remove drag handle?
14:12.48vhaarrDaemona: I thought the pyroblast happens like 24/7
14:12.50[Ammo]I sure hope you meant remove X :p
14:12.55vhaarr[Ammo]: yeye, I'm not smrt.
14:12.57[Ammo]k
14:13.03vhaarr:(
14:13.13Sarozget a room!
14:13.17vhaarrwtf
14:13.44vhaarrammo wtf
14:13.52[Ammo]?
14:13.54_icetrainwhy no skill details? :)
14:13.57vhaarryour OnLeave handler for the anchor was icky
14:14.04vhaarr_icetrain: because we're lazy
14:14.10Daemonavhaarr only if you dont interupt it... fixing the "DelayedMesage" to "DelayedMessage" triggers a "[2007/05/27 16:11:02-2601-x1]: BigWigs_TheEye\Kaelthas.lua:232: ')' expected near '?'" for me though
14:14.11vhaarrno, because we don't care about it.
14:14.12[Ammo]it is specifically for that
14:14.20vhaarrjesus christ
14:14.25nevcairiellol
14:14.25[Ammo]because you'd leave the handle then enter the frame
14:14.27[Ammo]and it would hide
14:14.32[Ammo]that's why I made it like this with a delay
14:14.44_icetrainvhaarr: layz.. figured that :D
14:14.51[Ammo]_icetrain: not lazy
14:14.57[Ammo]we don't care for the bloated info
14:15.02vhaarr<vhaarr> no, because we don't care about it.
14:15.03[Ammo]use Recount if you want lots of statistical bloat
14:15.37vhaarrDaemona: Sure you don't have merge errors of some kind?
14:16.08Daemonai only did a reload, no shutdown wow
14:16.18Daemonaand i only edited in the mising "s"
14:16.25Daemonaguesss i will relog
14:16.34vhaarrdon't have to relog
14:16.35moonsorrowI did that fix too, and it worked for me :)
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14:16.53vhaarrDaemona: Do you know what a svn merge error is?
14:17.01vhaarrit works fine now.
14:17.09Codayus.
14:17.13nevcairielmerge errors generally end up with script errors involving < chars :P
14:17.29vhaarrnevcairiel: nah
14:17.33hastevhaarr: I have  better version of the close texture if it's needed, which doesn't look like shit :-P
14:17.33vhaarralmost never, in fact
14:17.42vhaarrhaste: why didn't you say that:P
14:18.00hastebecause you never asked!
14:18.04vhaarr:(
14:18.07vhaarrhaste: screenshot?
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14:18.23[Ammo]haste: got my message on the grayscaled header
14:18.41[Ammo]that allows coloring of itself
14:18.56hasteyes, but you need to tweak the contrast and so on
14:19.04sbulalala <3 khorium destroyer
14:19.27[Ammo]haste: probably yeah
14:19.33[Ammo]but I'm not a pro photoshopper :)
14:19.42hasteI don't have photoshop :D
14:19.44sbuand its really possible to make money with engineering %-)
14:19.44[Ammo]had to ask Mikk for advice to make it even grayscale :)
14:19.48[Ammo]photoshop, gimp whatever
14:19.58[Ammo]I happen to had photoshop available
14:20.09Mikks/available/pirated/
14:20.11Mikk:>
14:20.11evl[Ammo]: Simplechat mod borks up /who <nick>
14:20.23[Ammo]evl: not caring :p
14:20.33[Ammo]Mikk: nope, legal at office
14:20.39evl[Ammo]: Have fun in HELL:
14:20.42Mikk*gasp*
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14:22.47[Ammo]Mikk: you kinda need a license if you ask customers to deliver layered PSD files for their websites
14:23.08vhaarr[Ammo]: lern2use gimp
14:23.23dottedgimp is gimped tbh
14:23.26[Ammo]gimp sucks userinterface wise
14:23.32dottedidd
14:23.35vhaarrheh
14:23.37[Ammo]it does the job
14:23.43|dRiN|so I use quartz now, but I really can't figure out how to move the main castingbar, anyone that can point me in the right direction?
14:23.46Sarozyou are all gimps
14:23.53Mikkhaving worked with both gimp and photoshop, my take is that they both suck equally
14:23.54[Ammo]but the userinterface is made by 113 different people with different styles
14:24.03Mikkboth have a fairly steep learning threshold
14:24.13Mikkmy only major gripe with gimp is it not using MDI
14:24.15|dRiN|I cant work with gimp either, photoshop is the way for me.
14:24.21Mikkand cluttering my taskbar to hell n back
14:24.25CIA-2203gagorian * r37192 10Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0/ (ClassModules/Warlock.lua ThreatClassModuleCore.lua):
14:24.25CIA-22Threat-1.0:
14:24.25CIA-22- Fixed warlock module rank parsing, added plagueheart crit detection
14:24.25CIA-22- Added exempt gains to heals (for leech spells)
14:24.27hastevhaarr: http://beverpung.net/images/touhou/otravi-close.tga (it has nothing to do with touhou, it just happened to be the active folder for my scp-ing :p)
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14:25.03StephmwMikk: I miss layer groups in gimp
14:25.18Mikkthis is true
14:25.20StephmwMikk: as well the heal tool ;-)
14:25.37Stephmwhaha
14:26.21Jagobahthreat!!!
14:26.26renchaphttp://ece4co.vis.ne.jp/sw/2007/05/post_16.html
14:26.36[Ammo]haste: that one needs grayscaling too :p
14:26.37[Ammo]hehe
14:27.07vhaarrhaste: got a screenshot of it "in action"?
14:27.32hastevhaarr: no, I don't use it in any add-on atm
14:27.40hasteI removed the GUI in the add-on I had it :-P
14:28.41CIA-2203rabbit * r37193 10Violation/Violation.lua: Violation: Color player names in the whisper menu, and order them by class.
14:28.58MorghusWhile using FishingAce, I rightclick the bobber when it dips, and then it's supposed to loot it. Right now it does, and just ... fades. What's wrong?
14:29.20Morghus*doesn't
14:29.23JoshBorkeMikk: make me a clock icon!
14:29.38Mikkdefine icon
14:29.42Mikkfubar icon?
14:29.42vhaarrhaste: but ammo is right, it needs greyscaling
14:29.58vhaarrhaste: so we can color it properly
14:29.59Mikkbutton?
14:30.06JoshBorkehold on, let me find the size
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14:30.20[Ammo]vhaarr: I can fix that
14:30.22hastevhaarr: just grayscale it :p ?
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14:30.31vhaarrhaste: I CBA LYL
14:30.35vhaarrokay ammo will do it
14:31.03[Ammo]haha
14:31.11hasteso lazy
14:31.19JoshBorkeMikk:  24x24
14:31.48Mikkwhere are you going to put it?
14:32.15Mikki need a bit of context here
14:32.24JoshBorkehrmph.  fine, let me make a screenshot of where it'll go
14:32.33Mikkcheers
14:33.21MorghusWhat are the alternatives to FishingAce! is that one's borked?
14:33.32Morghus*if
14:33.41winkillerhm, pitbull dies when I go into raid config mos
14:33.44winkiller*de
14:33.54winkiller1 frame every 10 sec
14:34.21CIA-2203gagorian * r37194 10Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0/ClassModules/Warlock.lua: Threat-1.0: - Warlock Module: Added soulshatter
14:37.00CIA-2203rabbit * r37195 10Violation/Violation.lua: Violation: Only create the bar anchor if we want to show it.
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14:39.00stavmarwhat is the main reason FuBar would not load up at startup?
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14:40.43Stephmwsnurre: everything working ok for you then?
14:40.54snurrelooks very promising, yeah
14:41.20Daemonahmmm i have to say, quartz improves rogue dps, sounds strange, but it helps preventing deadly poison to run out ^^
14:41.27snurrethreat seems a bit off still, but the damage part of violation is good enough to replace swstats
14:42.22Daemonahmmm 12 hours ago it was "no threat in violation - use omen" ?
14:42.23[Ammo]snurre: threat-1.0 is less than 24 hours old
14:42.24[Ammo]:p
14:42.30snurrei know :p
14:42.35vhaarrDaemona: I never said that.
14:42.38yacoobnew kind of threat! Threat 1.0!
14:43.11Daemonawhy create omen then? looks like redundant if its easy to be put into violation
14:43.20CIA-2203rabbit * r37196 10Violation/Violation.lua: Violation: Shuffle some methods around.
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14:43.59sbuDaemona: well - what to do if you dont want to have dmg stats?
14:44.33vhaarrviolation modules do no processing when they're turned off
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14:45.47sbuuhm mh
14:45.53hypetechhow do you report someone in-game?
14:46.00[Ammo]rightclick their name in chat
14:46.02sbubut it wont be possible to set some master target with violation? :p
14:46.06aen`for what hype?
14:46.07aen`ll
14:46.15hypetechty
14:46.18hypetechgold spam
14:46.28stavmarIf anyone could help, what i s needed to make make fubar load at startup, mine just does not want to start up?
14:46.30aen`eh, that wont make a difference
14:46.31hypetechguy has been standing outside org mailbox spamming in /say for 45 minutes
14:46.43aen`stav: out of date addons loaded?
14:47.24Silviu-[Ammo] Thread uses Parser 1.1 or 3 ?
14:47.34vhaarr1.1
14:47.41hypetechROFL...this person has been standing there cussing at the spammer for like 20 minutes now, and she finally just said "hmm...I think it's a bot"
14:47.47Silviu-Ok, can i post u an error ?
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14:48.10Silviu-http://ace.pastey.net/42057
14:48.38stavmaraen: yeah it is checked and the only mods I am running are Fubar and Bartender
14:48.58stavmaraen: bugsack not reporting any errors
14:51.09vhaarrstavmar: So you actually have FuBar, !BugGrabber, BugSack and Bartender3 running, then?
14:51.33stavmarvhaarr: yes i do sorry for not including all of those in there?
14:51.46vhaarrjust checking, since lua errors are disabled by default
14:52.36stavmarjust not understanding why FuBar is not loading at the moment
14:53.20snurrehttp://img329.imageshack.us/img329/120/wowscrnshot052707164727zl2.jpg  <-- threat while not in combat? :p
14:53.43stavmarIs there a specific load on demand addon i need? I use external libs and they are all turned on at the moment
14:55.08vhaarrstavmar: Make sure "Display Lua Errors" is turned on in Interface Options.
14:55.20stavmarok
14:55.57stavmarit is checked, lol
14:56.04stavmarTHis is nutz
14:56.35Sarozvhaarr, Violation.lua:615: Attempt to index upvalue 'db' a nil value
14:57.23vhaarrthanks
14:57.24CIA-2203rabbit * r37197 10Violation/Violation.lua: Violation: Bugfix.
14:57.26Saroznp
14:59.01Sarozvhaarr, Violation.lua:430: Attempt to index upvalue 'db' a nil value
14:59.08vhaarrgah
14:59.17SarozI think you forgot it a lot of places
14:59.23Saroznoticedin your last commits
15:00.07vhaarrSaroz: When do you get that error?
15:00.22SarozI opened settings in DoucheCommander
15:01.01Sarozvhaarr: http://groups.google.com/group/wowace/browse_thread/thread/414bb10069b45985
15:01.15vhaarrI can't open links, what is it?
15:01.18vhaarrmy commit?
15:01.22Saroz-                               Violation.db.char.enabledModules[mod] = val
15:01.22Saroz+                               db.enabledModules[mod] = val
15:01.24Sarozyes
15:01.28vhaarrI know what the fuck I did man
15:01.34Saroz-.-
15:04.34Fisker-how the fuck do you know that?
15:05.12dottedyeah how the fuck is that possible?
15:05.20dottedhej fisk
15:05.26Fisker-nej dodgizzla
15:05.29Fisker-dotted
15:06.26CIA-2203ammo * r37198 10Violation/ (3 files in 2 dirs): Violation: graphical adjustments to the header and close button.
15:06.45Wobinheh, only tab completion
15:06.56Wobinfor a minute there I thought that was dotted in swedish or something
15:07.33dottedgrrrrrrrrrrrr how dare you?
15:08.01WobinOr Danish
15:08.04Wobinas the case may be =P
15:08.10WobinI dunno, you Danes are crazy =)
15:08.10dotted:P
15:08.16dottedaye
15:08.17CIA-2203ammo * r37199 10Violation/Violation.toc: Violation: give haste some credits for the header.
15:08.34Punkie`vhaarr: is the table is nil error fixed yet? :)
15:08.47vhaarrno
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15:09.26Punkie`oki doke :)
15:09.41CIA-2203gagorian * r37200 10Threat-1.0/ (Libs/ Threat-1.0/ThreatClassModuleCore.lua Threat-1.0.toc):
15:09.41CIA-22Threat-1.0:
15:09.41CIA-22- Added SpecialEvents-Equipped library to libs
15:09.41CIA-22- Now scans items for enchants on activation (temp fix?)
15:10.12CAL|Smeltnvhaarr or [Ammo] : does violation have a fubar plugin for it yet?
15:10.16snurreyes
15:10.16vhaarr"yet"?
15:10.19Fisker-has always had?
15:10.21vhaarrIt had that since day one.
15:10.21CAL|Smeltnlol
15:10.22CAL|Smeltnsorry
15:10.25Sarozlooking good Gagorian
15:10.27CAL|Smeltnjust getting ready to try it
15:10.40vhaarrI'll kick you next time you ask a silly question
15:10.44CAL|Smeltnyes sir
15:10.48CAL|SmeltnI will go back ot my hole now
15:10.49Fisker-i lol'd
15:10.53Fisker-was worth it
15:11.05SarozDon't kick me!
15:11.18Chompersnooo
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15:11.22Chompersworld server is down :<
15:11.37Saroznah, Im in
15:11.46mephhi guys, i know forums might be better for this but ill try it anyway, im looking for cooldown count mod for bartender 3, can't find it anywhere, spent like one hour on it and im out of ideas where to look :) anybody knows ?
15:11.53Chomperspeople still moving about Saroz?
15:11.58Chompersor are you in an instalce
15:12.00durcynmeph: files.wowace.com/CooldownCount2?
15:12.00Sarozyup
15:12.02Chompers*instance
15:12.10mephcouldnt download it
15:12.20durcyntry again.
15:12.24Chompersback in
15:12.32GagorianSaroz: kek. Now the warlock module is more accurate than KTM :)
15:12.43meph404 - not found :)
15:12.59SarozGagorian, thaddius trinket!!
15:13.04durcynmeph: leave off the question mark, at least.  or go straight to files.wowace.com and ctrl-f search for cooldowncount
15:13.05GagorianINCLUDED!
15:13.09Sarozomg!
15:13.11Saroz*dies*
15:13.35Sarozktm is going down gusy
15:13.36CIA-2203ammo * r37201 10Violation/ (Violation.toc libs/): Violation: toc and lib corrections
15:14.00mephyou think i'd let the question mark there ? :)
15:14.04durcynhrm, speaking of tocs, shouldn't Threat-1.0 have SEE and ParserLib in OptDeps?
15:14.11mephbut i found one without the 2, ill try it, thanks
15:14.18WixiIs there many alternatives to Prat atm?
15:14.23ChompersViolation spam today, i like it
15:15.34Gagoriandurcyn: yes
15:17.02CIA-2203rabbit * r37202 10Violation/ (9 files in 4 dirs): Violation: Shorter paths for combat events.
15:17.13vhaarrSaroz: try again
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15:17.59CIA-2203gagorian * r37203 10Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0.toc: Threat-1.0: - Added Babble-2.2, SpecialEventsEmbed and ParserLib to OptDeps
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15:20.23Sarozvhaarr, works
15:20.30Sarozbut!
15:20.47SarozWhen I click "show" on bars.. Violation.lua:1609 upvalue, db, nil etc
15:21.15SarozViolation.lua:1609 upvalue, anchor, nil value etc
15:21.17Sarozthere
15:21.41Sarozah, works now when I toggle it, odd
15:21.52vhaarrit's not odd
15:22.06Sarozuhh smooth resizing now
15:22.09CIA-2203rabbit * r37204 10Violation/Violation.lua: Violation: Bugfix.
15:22.27cynyr_meph: i'm uing omniCC not wowace but works well
15:22.36Sarozone thing I miss in Violation, is a quick way to switch between which data is shown in the GUI...
15:22.43Sarozlike SW STats has the small buttons
15:22.54vhaarrSaroz: you seem to like GUI creation, you do it
15:23.21CAL|Smeltnlmao
15:23.22vhaarrI just want two small < > arrows somewhere to use for flipping through the available modules
15:23.33Sarozalso fine, and a way to lock the window plx
15:24.17TheKarnvhaarr, and maybe use of scrollwheel to slide up/down the list?
15:24.24Sarozuh uh, nice
15:24.24vhaarrit does that already?
15:24.29TheKarni dunno
15:24.32Sarozgonna try it in SSC tonight
15:24.33TheKarni've only ever had one bar on it so far
15:24.36[Ammo]TheKarn: it already does
15:24.55TheKarnok my other thought was the abliity to always show the current player
15:25.01CIA-2203ominous * r37205 10ClassTimer/Bars/ (10 files): ClassTimer: added some spells, sorted spells into alphabetical order
15:25.02Sarozoption to only show window in group/raid?
15:25.13TheKarnso if you have say the top 1-10 shown, and the current player is #12 it shows #1-#9 and #12
15:25.18durcynooh, and a "get me a beer" button
15:25.28Mikkvhaarr: http://mikk.cjb.net/gfx/buttons/ <- in case that's what you're looking for.. there's arrows there
15:25.32vhaarrTheKarn: it does that as well?
15:25.48TheKarnvhaarr, damnit i should wait for my raid first
15:26.19[Ammo]actually I'm not sure about that one
15:26.23[Ammo]but it might do that
15:26.28[Ammo]it does for the tooltip at least
15:26.30Saroz1) Option to lock window to prevent movement 2) Option to only show while in raid/group
15:26.31[Ammo]but not sure on the bars module
15:26.55Sarozthe right-click options on the GUI is nice
15:26.57cynyr_does threat-1.0 sync with KTM?
15:27.01Sarozno
15:27.27cynyr_oh.. then i'll have to stick with ktm then...
15:27.31Saroznow people can get damagemeter AND threat meter... in one!
15:27.39Mikk= win
15:27.47Mikkbut yeah wtb ktm sync til the doofs convert >.<
15:27.52Sarozhrrrm I guess you could make it send your Threat-1.0 threat in KTM format
15:27.56Sarozto make it work like that
15:28.03durcynjust make your main tank switch, then everyone else will have to ;))
15:28.03Sarozbut I doubt Threat-1.0 will import KTM ever
15:28.04Silviu-i still get this error with Violation and Threat http://ace.pastey.net/42069
15:28.27[Ammo]that's a threat error not a violation error
15:28.31MikkSaroz: I'm curious.. what's the problem with using a compatible network protocol?
15:28.34cynyr_Saroz: ahh see it's not so much that i need to send my threat, i need to see our crappy tanks threat
15:28.39MikkIsn't the data pretty simplistic?
15:28.45Sarozcynyr_, make your tank switch :p
15:28.47mephthanks durcyn, it was out of date but it works
15:28.51Silviu-[Ammo] who should i ping ? ;)
15:28.57[Ammo]dunno
15:29.00Silviu-^^
15:29.02SarozMikk, no idea
15:29.11cynyr_Saroz: it was hard enough to get him to even install ktm....
15:29.19Sarozyea, had that problem aswell
15:29.22Sarozstupid MTs
15:29.35[Ammo]Silviu-: what class?
15:29.37cynyr_now our good pally tank has ktm...
15:29.39Silviu-Warlock
15:29.43Silviu-Alone, no grp
15:29.44Sarozwell, the good thing is.. you can make a super small mod, that only sends threat, not shows, and just give that to your MT
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15:29.55cynyr_umm does Violation sync with swStats?
15:29.58Sarozno
15:30.05cynyr_or am i asking for too much again...
15:30.11Mikkdoes anything sync with anything? no.
15:30.20Sarozindeed
15:30.21Mikkexcept for oRA <> CTRA
15:30.31[Ammo]Silviu-: empty slot?
15:30.32cynyr_yep that one works...
15:30.38SarozI think it was planned to make Violation import from damagemeters and swstats, dunno if that still is in the future
15:30.38[Ammo]Silviu-: empty slot in inventory?
15:30.41Sarozread it somewhere
15:30.51vhaarrit's still planned, but noone wants to do it
15:30.55vhaarrsince their code sucks balls
15:31.00Saroz:p
15:31.09Silviu-[Ammo] u mean my items ?
15:31.11cynyr_ahh, that would explain it then
15:31.20Silviu-[Ammo] no, well .. no Shirt and Tabard
15:31.24[Ammo]aha
15:31.26Silviu-Rest is all there
15:31.30Sarozneed to make a few wrapper addons for Threat... one that just sends threat (for dumb tanks/healers etc)
15:31.54CIA-2203ammo * r37206 10Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0/ThreatClassModuleCore.lua: Threat-1.0: don't stringfind on empty slots
15:32.02MikkName suggesting: ThreatSender
15:32.02cynyr_i guess the big question is can the sws/dmgmtrs code be lifted and made into functions inside of Violation?
15:32.03Silviu-[Ammo] thx
15:32.09[Ammo]Saroz: no need to
15:32.14[Ammo]Saroz: just install threat standalone
15:32.15CIA-2203durcyn * r37207 10CooldownCount/CooldownCount.toc: CooldownCount: toc -> 20100
15:32.16[Ammo]and you're done
15:32.26[Ammo]no wrapper needd
15:32.27nevcairieland it wont load because of LoDness
15:32.28nevcairiel:P
15:32.37[Ammo]unless you want to make a KTM sender
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15:33.01[Ammo]and now I have to fix a headlight of my car
15:33.08nevcairielgood luck
15:33.17CAL|Smeltn`who is Adirelle on the forums?
15:33.29[Ammo]Adirelle
15:33.30Mikkprolly the same Adirelle as here
15:33.36CAL|Smeltn`lol
15:33.43CAL|Smeltn`just wondering about the updates done.
15:34.02CAL|Smeltn`or those official updates or just Adirelle's private updates that they are sharing
15:34.52Saroz[Ammo], Threat sends data automatically?
15:35.07cynyr_ohh good the svn server is back up
15:35.22CIA-2203usz * r37208 10PrivateChat/ (. Core.lua PrivateChat.toc):
15:35.22CIA-22PrivateChat
15:35.22CIA-22- Updated to 20100
15:35.23CIA-22- Some minor fixes as well
15:40.41cynyr_wow all the sws files have a ^m at the end of every line...
15:41.02Mikk~CRLF
15:41.22purli guess crlf is carriage return line forward, or ask me about crlf->unix
15:41.23Mikkcynyr_: get a better editor
15:41.29vhaarrget a clue, I'd say
15:41.51cynyr_Mikk: i'm using vim
15:42.02Mikkget a better editor =P
15:42.08cynyr_:P
15:42.08Mikkone that understands CRLF line endings
15:42.26durcynvim is fine, just run it through dos2unix
15:42.30cynyr_all it should need is a \n not a CRLF
15:42.34Silviu-[Ammo] http://ace.pastey.net/42075 , when u shif click icon to show bars
15:42.43Silviu-Shift*
15:43.00MikkCRLF is the internet standard for line endings, and also the one that windows uses
15:43.21Mikkof course it doesn't _need_ more than \n
15:43.22durcyni'd hesitate to say "internet standard"
15:43.25Mikkbut erm...
15:43.35[FH]Birdemanihrm, in sraidframes in AB almost every spot in the raid has my name in it
15:43.41durcynsince html technically doesn't need newlines at all :o
15:43.42cynyr_Mikk: see windows != standard
15:43.48Mikkdurcyn: do feel free to check up all text based protocols. but yeah nothing on the internet is "standard"
15:43.53Mikki never said windows was a standard either >.<
15:44.18durcynmikk: gimme an RFC number then =P
15:44.26[FH]Birdemaniis there a away to fix sraid of this or is saroz still working on it?
15:44.28cynyr_Mikk: i know it;s the one that wordpad and notepad use, but thats 2 editors not designed to write code in that use
15:44.33Gnarfozanyone got an idea why Prat is missing Dewdrop? oO
15:45.00Gnarfozit's set as an external alright
15:45.01Mikkdurcyn: FTP, SMTP, HTTP, spring to mind
15:45.07durcyncynyr_: erm, you're not as smart as you think you sound, it's the platform in general, not a specific editor
15:45.11CIA-2203ominous * r37209 10ClassTimer/Bars/ (6 files): ClassTimer: syntax carelessness
15:45.27Ominousanyone got a link to the alt tab crash fix
15:45.28WobinMost textual Internet protocols (including HTTP, SMTP, FTP, IRC and many others) mandate the use of ASCII CR+LF (0x0D 0x0A) on the protocol level, but recommend that tolerant applications recognize lone LF as well. In practice, there are many applications that erroneously use the C newline character '\n' instead (see section Newline in programming languages below). This leads to problems when trying to communicate with systems adhering to a
15:45.28Wobin<PROTECTED>
15:45.32cynyr_durcyn: you sure? because if i install vim on windows i don't get that
15:46.01durcynif i had the ascii art of the guy holding his head in his hand, i'd be using it now
15:46.08GnarfozOminous: if you find it, let me know please? :D
15:46.25Wobinit's mips ins't it?
15:46.28Mikkanyway, my main point is that editors that barf on CRLF are stupid
15:46.28Wobinset mip = 0
15:46.31Wobinor something
15:46.34Wobinsimilar
15:46.46Mikksimilary, editors that barf on only LF are stupid too =P
15:46.50Wobin(that's to the alt-tab issue)
15:46.58Mikkbasemip=0 innit?
15:47.05Ominousargh why cant luac recognise utf-8
15:47.07WobinI can't recall precisely
15:47.14OminousMikk: you sure?
15:47.15MikkOminous: cogwheel's does
15:47.20WobinI just remember seeing somemip
15:47.21binderdid they remove the fel iron nodes by the dark portal?
15:47.22OminousMikk: where cna i get
15:47.25MikkOminous: rechecking
15:47.36MikkOminous: wowinterface.com
15:48.08Thorgard^2binder, I think they moved quite a few of the nodes.
15:48.13Silviu-what is this  basemip anyway ?
15:48.26Wobinhttp://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=105812262&sid=1
15:48.36MikkLook for the line SET Basemip "1" and replace it with SET Basemip "0", if not there, then add the SET Basemip "0" line.
15:48.39Silviu-I mean what the setting actually do
15:49.05Mikkhas to do with how textures are extracted out of blp files
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15:49.26Mikkand probably more intricacies that i have no idea of =)
15:49.46*** part/#wowace Mikk (n=opera@81-233-236-26-no19.tbcn.telia.com)
15:49.53Silviu-;p
15:52.15Saroz[FH]Birdemani, fix?
15:52.45WobinSaroz: *snipsnip*
15:52.48Silviu-Anyone know that addon that makes an huge grid on your screen so it`s easyer to configure where all goes ? :)
15:52.54CIA-2203rabbit * r37210 10Violation/ (Damage/DPS.lua Healing/HPS.lua): Violation: Bugfix.
15:53.04Silviu-It was on wowi but i forgot the name
15:53.28durcynGagorian: Thread-1.0\ClassModules\Warlock.lua:140: attempt to compare number with table  when casting fear on a mob solo
15:55.07Silviu-vhaarr [2007/05/27 18:55:07-6-x1]: Violation-1.0.37204\Damage\DPS.lua:181: attempt to call method 'ResetDPSTimer' (a nil value)
15:55.07Silviu-ParserLib\ParserLib-1.1\ParserLib.lua:449: in function <...terface\AddOns\ParserLib\ParserLib-1.1\ParserLib.lua:449>
15:55.15vhaarr<CIA-22> rabbit * r37210 Violation/ (Damage/DPS.lua Healing/HPS.lua): Violation: Bugfix.
15:55.15CIA-2203ammo * r37211 10Violation/Violation.lua: Violation: bugfix shiftclicking plugin when no anchor has been created yet.
15:55.47OminousMikk: im confused on how to install cogweels thing
15:55.49Ominouson xp
15:56.28[Ammo]durcyn: you're not running the latest
15:56.51durcyn37186?  i'll bump it again.
15:57.09CIA-2203ricowan * r37212 10RicoMiniMap/ (RicoMiniMap.lua RicoMiniMap.toc):
15:57.09CIA-22RicoMiniMap:
15:57.09CIA-22- Updated TOC
15:57.09CIA-22- Moved zone text down a bit to clear icons along the side in the minimap
15:57.17cynyr_line 1 of ClassTimer/Bars/Rogue.lua has an extra " mark after "Local _", easily fixed on my end.
15:57.26[Ammo]durcyn: line 140 is empty on my most updated
15:57.27Ominousyes
15:57.33aen`hmm, so much has changed with the rog builds
15:57.35Ominouscynyr_: already fixed
15:58.09CIA-2203ricowan * r37213 10FuBar_RicoXPFu/FuBar_RicoXPFu.toc:
15:58.09CIA-22FuBar_RicoXPFu:
15:58.09CIA-22- Updated TOC
15:58.14cynyr_Ominous: ohh okay, :)
15:58.50CIA-2203ricowan * r37214 10FuBar_PetFu/FuBar_PetFu.toc:
15:58.50CIA-22FuBar_PetFu:
15:58.51CIA-22- Updated TOC
15:59.16CIA-2203archarodim * r37215 10Decursive/ (15 files):
15:59.16CIA-22Decursive:
15:59.16CIA-22- It's now possible to disable the warning displayed when no key in mapped for the macro
15:59.16CIA-22- Two new locals have been added for the option above. (already translated for frFR)
15:59.16CIA-22- A Description in French has been added to the TOC
15:59.16CIA-22- Version switch to 2.0 RC1!
15:59.43durcyn[Ammo]: my mistake, it's resolved in latest
16:01.20CAL|Smeltn`ok on Violation.
16:01.24CIA-2203mikk * r37216 10Cartographer/Cartographer_LookNFeel/LookNFeel.lua:
16:01.24CIA-22Cartographer:
16:01.24CIA-22- Yank out all framestrata & framelevel setting from refixParent(). There is really no need for it since a :SetParent() always fixes strata & level.
16:01.24CIA-22- This seems to solve instance map display problems.
16:01.24CIA-22- May help with BG problems also? Cba to test cause I don't PvP. Please test!
16:01.27CAL|Smeltn`when you print it to anything
16:01.34CAL|Smeltn`you can select part or guild or whatever
16:01.39CAL|Smeltn`it always sends it to say
16:01.49*** join/#wowace Mikk (n=opera@81-233-236-26-no19.tbcn.telia.com)
16:02.03MikkDamn. Missed my commit :>
16:02.53Wobin<PROTECTED>
16:02.53Wobin<CIA-22> Cartographer:
16:02.53Wobin<CIA-22> - Yank out all framestrata & framelevel setting from refixParent(). There is really no need for it since a :SetParent() always fixes strata & level.
16:02.53Wobin<CIA-22> - This seems to solve instance map display problems.
16:02.53Wobin<CIA-22> - May help with BG problems also? Cba to test cause I don't PvP. Please test!
16:02.57Ominouswhats a good free ANSI C compiler
16:03.14CIA-2203ammo * r37217 10Violation/ (Damage/DPS.lua Healing/HPS.lua): Violation: remove 'burst' from the dps and hps display.
16:03.53[Ammo]CAL|Smeltn`: probably a bug introduced by some shuffling around
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16:04.45Wraangerquestion - oculd Pitbull be a reason of DRAMATIC loss of fps atm ?
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16:05.02MikkWraanger: Good question. Test by disabling it?
16:05.09Mikkimmensely more helpful =)
16:05.37*** join/#wowace Radon (n=unknown@p54B4F130.dip.t-dialin.net)
16:06.02Wraangeri know ) could not test this now because of my arena team ))) we are running arena atm .... decided to ask, mb someone know the answer already ))
16:06.30Wraangeralso, the topic of the channel says about problems with custom UFs ...
16:06.47Ominouswhats a good free ANSI C compiler, anyone?
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16:06.53[Ammo]gcc
16:06.55*** join/#wowace Josh_Borke (n=jk275@antimatter.stl.gtri.gatech.edu)
16:07.22Silviu-Question : Some time ago i found an addon on wowinterface ( forgot the name ) that made a big grid on your screen anyone know that one ? ;)
16:07.24Gagorianhah perfect way to test threat
16:07.30Josh_BorkeSilviu-: Align
16:07.31Gagorianmy unarmed melee hits for 1 damage
16:07.56GagorianJust have pet hit for something, multiply by 1.1 then melee unto the amount to the difference I want to test and cast a spell, see if I get aggro
16:08.11Silviu-Josh_Borke yay thx ! :)
16:08.41Josh_Borkenp
16:09.00Wraangerstrange ..... immediately after leaving arena ..fps was 52 ...and in a few seconds, it begins to drop very quickly down to 8
16:09.09Azurewrath~seen nymbia
16:09.36purlnymbia <n=nymbia@71-218-137-239.hlrn.qwest.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 5h 52m 2s ago, saying: 'or colored a text line?'.
16:09.37MikkWraanger: Get FuBar_PerformanceFu for stats
16:09.45Josh_Borke/flex
16:10.20[FH]Birdemaniso ya, after updating today...I go to pvp in AB, pull up my sraidframes and pretty much all the spots have me in them
16:10.20CIA-2203anea * r37218 10SpamSentry/ (core.lua report/report.lua): SpamSentry 20070527-2: Various small fixes.
16:10.28Ominous~seen JJSheets
16:10.31purljjsheets <n=jjsheets@74-136-100-20.dhcp.insightbb.com> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 22d 15h 17m 52s ago, saying: 'bluntmaster.   sounds like a funny name for a pot smoking dope fiend.  :)'.
16:10.31Josh_Borke<3 Mikk
16:10.52MikkJosh_Borke: i can of course go more basic if you like
16:11.05Josh_Borkeno no, that's great
16:11.12Josh_Borkenow i just need to think of a name for the mod
16:11.55MikkWTB [Description]
16:12.07Wobinwhat mod?
16:12.20CIA-2203ammo * r37219 10Violation/Violation.lua: Violation: Print -> Report, a more common name for the functionality. Print on Reset is still print since it prints.
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16:12.47Josh_BorkeDescription:  display the current time on the frame, when left-clicked start a new timer.  when right-clicked open configuration.  supports alarms that can go off in/at X time
16:12.48WraangerMikk...PerformanceFu is installed ... no changes in mem using ...just a bit of latency increase and huge drop of FPS
16:13.03Josh_BorkeWraanger: you'll need to enable CPU Usage to find out what eats your FPS
16:13.10Wixi[Ammo]: is there a wiki or forum article about Violation anywhere? i'm not seeing one
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16:13.21[Ammo]there is a forum post
16:13.24WobinTickyBox
16:13.26abyssichateHello
16:13.41Josh_BorkeTickTockBox?
16:13.42WobinTimeToGo
16:13.52Josh_Borkeor just TickTock?
16:14.05[Ammo]StopWatch
16:14.11[Ammo]AlarmClock
16:14.15Wobin=(
16:14.22boobies4uPenisFU
16:14.28Wobindescriptive, but boring, [Ammo] =P
16:14.29[Ammo]anyway, time to go
16:14.30[Ammo]later
16:14.35boobies4utater
16:14.57boobies4uckknight is slacking!
16:15.08WobinWhat's taters, precious?
16:15.29boobies4uim not sure
16:15.36vhaarrboil'em, fry'em, stick'em in a stew?
16:15.39vhaarror something
16:15.41boobies4ui think it has something to do with church
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16:17.17Wobinhehe
16:17.19Josh_Borkepurl--
16:17.26Wobinobviously we're missing the syntax =P
16:17.29vhaarryeah :P
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16:17.54Josh_Borke~karma
16:17.54purljosh_borke has neutral karma
16:17.55NightHawkTheSaneI'd laugh if there was just someone in another channel doing 'purl++' and wondering why it doesn't work.
16:17.58snurre[2007/05/27 18:10:15-687-x551]: PitBull_BarFader\BarFader.lua:69: attempt to index field 'powerBar' (a nil value)
16:18.03vhaarrNightHawkTheSane: rofl
16:18.04Wobin~literal power
16:18.06purl"power" is "for newer opie releases you need to have apmd installed to have a working power button. or see external power, or the derivative of energy with respect to time"
16:18.20Wobin~power
16:18.21purlpower is probably for newer opie releases you need to have apmd installed to have a working power button. or see external power, or the derivative of energy with respect to time
16:18.48Josh_Borke~karma purl
16:18.48purlpurl has karma of 8
16:18.59CIA-2203helium * r37220 10ChatLog/Locale-zhTW.lua: ChatLog: updated zhTW.
16:19.03Mikk~karma mikk
16:19.03purlmikk has karma of 2
16:19.14Wobinaha
16:19.21NightHawkTheSane~smite mikk
16:19.22purlACTION wields the mighty blade of Argothax and cleaves mikk from crown to sole.
16:19.31CIA-2203helium * r37221 10Bartender3/locales/Bartender3-zhTW.lua: Bartender3: updated zhTW locale
16:19.34Wobinpurl, vhaarr++
16:19.46Wobin~karma vhaarr
16:19.46purlvhaarr has karma of 2
16:19.50Wobin^^
16:20.11vhaarraha :)
16:20.29dotted~karma dotted
16:20.29purldotted has neutral karma
16:20.34dottedfail
16:20.48vhaarrpurl, purl--
16:20.52Wobinpurl, dotted++
16:20.54vhaarr~karma purl
16:20.54purlpurl has karma of 7
16:20.57vhaarr:P
16:21.07dotted~karma dotted
16:21.07purldotted has karma of 1
16:21.11dottedwewt
16:21.24Mikk~fisker---
16:21.39dottedpurl, Fisker---
16:21.41WraangerI have enabled CPU Profiling ...and most usage was from TabletLib
16:21.49Wraangerlike 6.42%
16:21.50nevcairielthats normal
16:21.52Mikk~karma Fisker-
16:21.52purlfisker- has karma of -2
16:22.02dotted;p
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16:22.43arcanefoamhello
16:22.48arcanefoamis ck on?
16:23.15Mikksilly question
16:23.19Mikk=P
16:23.20Wobinnight all
16:23.28Mikkgnite wobs
16:23.29CIA-2203saroz * r37222 10sRaidFrames/sRaidFrames.lua: sRaidFrames: Throttle the update of the frame cache, because it hangs like a bitch when blizzard is flooding AttributeChanged
16:23.59arcanefoampitbull is acting funny, sometimes all the text onthe bars is gone, I have to reload to get it back
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16:24.14TecnoBratSaroz is my hero
16:24.30Sarozfucking hate secure frames
16:24.35Sarozgod damn stupid idea if there ever was one
16:24.41nevcairielso true
16:24.51nevcairielbut some stuff is great tho, RegisterStateDriver ftw :D
16:24.55iLx`afk|imPis that whats causing the black screens
16:25.14TecnoBratSaroz, good luck on the weird BG/Arena problem I reported
16:25.23Sarozshould be fixed now
16:25.33nevcairielyou wish
16:25.38SarozIt is!
16:25.41nevcairielaltho it never happend in arenas for me
16:25.52nevcairieland i dont do bg-pvp
16:25.53Mikksecure frames are a reasonable idea imo
16:25.53TecnoBratI just updated and tested about 10 mins ago, fixed in that commit?
16:25.54Sarozsame here, but I see the problem
16:25.59Sarozyes
16:26.05TecnoBratoh okay, cool
16:26.05Mikkbut the auto-securing of parents and attached frames = ARGHHHGHRGHRHLLHLHLHL
16:26.11TecnoBratI'll test in a few then
16:26.13Sarozthx
16:26.23Sarozruns pretty sweet now
16:26.53Saroz"ShouldUpdateFrameCache = true " zzzz
16:27.19nevcairielhehe
16:27.24CIA-2203mikk * r37223 10Cartographer/Cartographer_LookNFeel/LookNFeel.lua:
16:27.24CIA-22Cartographer:
16:27.25CIA-22- Yank "Enable" button from Look'N'Feel (just commented-out)
16:27.27nevcairieli need to rework alot of bt3 stuff
16:27.41nevcairieli even though about redoing it altogether because of some weirdness
16:28.29Sarozman, the times pre-2.0.. good times
16:28.36Sarozso easy and clean to make raid frames
16:28.36nevcairieltrue
16:28.51nevcairielbut i think i would miss some stuff from the state drivers
16:28.57nevcairielor re-implement it somehow :P
16:29.18vhaarrdo I smell a bt4?
16:29.28nevcairielnah
16:29.34nevcairieli would change the name imho
16:30.24vhaarrbartender is a great name
16:30.30Mikkrefactor > recode
16:30.33GnarfozMikk: thanks for that, disabling that module kind of... sucks :D
16:30.37Mikkfix bugs > reinvent old bugs
16:30.48Mikk^ gospel
16:31.05nevcairielthere are some design issues which i decided on a while back ..
16:31.17nevcairielchanging that now would be a PITA
16:31.22nevcairielbut i somehow want to ^^
16:31.39Gnarfozwhat are thosew?
16:31.40Gnarfoz-w
16:31.51nevcairiellimiting everything to 10 bars and 12 butons per bar
16:31.52TecnoBratgogo package script
16:31.52nevcairielfor example
16:32.16nevcairieli could even allow unlimited buttons, not limited by action ids
16:32.19nevcairielif i really wanted to :P
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16:33.09b33nel\floHello is anyone here?
16:33.14chutwigno
16:33.17AKXnuh-uh
16:33.18nevcairielnoone, sry
16:33.28AKXWe're all out for lunch.
16:33.32chutwigmmm lunch
16:33.33Wraangerhrm... disabled custom UFs ... ( Pitbull namely ) and FPS seems to more or less normalized .... strange
16:33.39b33nel\floHow can I get the DREAMLAYOUT theme for ag_unitfrages?
16:34.12CIA-2203stupid * r37224 10RS_ClassColors/ (Hooks.lua RS_ClassColors.toc): RS_ClassColors: WoW 2.1 changes
16:34.15TecnoBratweren't all the layouts moved to aguf_layouts?
16:34.37TecnoBratthat would be a good place to start anyways
16:34.42b33nel\flooh
16:34.50b33nel\flotheres a addons called aguf_layouts
16:34.54TecnoBratyes
16:34.56b33nel\floa seperate addon?
16:35.07TecnoBratactually, aUF_Layouts
16:35.09TecnoBratyes
16:35.12TecnoBratfiles.wowace.com
16:36.02b33nel\flothanks alot ;) gonna check if its in there now :)
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16:39.00CAL|Smeltn`2 requests
16:39.27CAL|Smeltn`1st I have reset the meters 3 times now
16:39.32CAL|Smeltn`because I hide it sometimes..
16:39.40CAL|Smeltn`and want to click it again from the V to show
16:39.49CAL|Smeltn`can we swap that around so Shift click does the reset
16:39.57CAL|Smeltn`and left click shows hides?
16:40.09CAL|Smeltn`most people do not need to reset the meters all the time
16:40.27CAL|Smeltn`2nd is possibly adding a scaling option.
16:40.37CAL|Smeltn`I know you can move the meter as far as size
16:40.52TecnoBratwhats this for?
16:40.56CAL|Smeltn`but that doesnt change font size.. so if you make it smaller. then the text starts colliding
16:40.58CAL|Smeltn`Violation
16:42.36TecnoBratblah, I really hate the new shaman color
16:43.49chutwigyeah
16:43.50chutwigit's too dark
16:47.30IcerothAntiarc, got some bugz in sanity bags: http://iceroth.net/wow/sanitybags.jpg
16:47.40Iceroththe filters don't apply correctly all the time
16:47.49Icerothand the fill rate bar goes nuts
16:47.51chutwigis resist cap 365 or 375 now?
16:47.56chutwigi want to say 365
16:48.45Gnarfozlevel * 5 means 350 for l70, 365 for l73 which is what bosses should be
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16:49.13chutwignow that they've improved the FR sets it'll be pretty easy to hit FR cap
16:49.29chutwigi just need an eldr'naan hood of fire protection
16:49.33SarozIs there a function that returns all keys in a table
16:49.34chutwigthat's going to be fun to get
16:50.24nevcairielSaroz: unpack returns all values, i dont think there is one for keys ^^
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16:50.40TecnoBratSaroz, didnt fix the issue, when I join a 2nd bg / arena my raid frames are still not updated .. this time it even thought everyone was offline
16:50.41TecnoBrathttp://i199.photobucket.com/albums/aa291/tecnobrat/WoWScrnShot_052707_094719.jpg
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16:50.54Saroztesting it now TecnoBrat
16:50.57TecnoBratas you can see, I'm in with a rogue
16:51.05TecnoBratkk
16:51.12Sarozseems to work though here
16:51.20TecnoBrathrrrm
16:51.41Sarozor.. not
16:51.41Sarozffs
16:52.11Tornhoofantiarc, does sanitybags supports a onebag mode?, i just want one big sorted bag :)
16:52.27aen`torn: i wish there was a mod like that
16:53.40Tornhoofi guess i'll need to bother kaelten with that ;)
16:53.40TecnoBratAnd yea .. my UI is kinda crazy
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16:54.29IcerothTornhoof, it does
16:54.38Tornhoofreally?
16:54.39Tornhoofnice
16:54.42Tornhoofinstalling
16:54.42Icerothbut no bank support (yet?)
16:54.43SarozTecnoBrat, it worked for the fist right?
16:54.49TecnoBratSaroz, yes
16:54.50SarozTecnoBrat, it works when you reloadUI?
16:54.54TecnoBratAnd if I reloadui
16:54.58TecnoBratyep
16:55.03Sarozok, I think I see the problem, fucking odd
16:55.09Tornhoofhmm no bank support :/
16:55.18Icerothye kinda bummer
16:55.59CIA-2203saroz * r37225 10sRaidFrames/sRaidFrames.lua: sRaidFrames: Reset frame list when leaving a raid, not joining it.
16:56.07TecnoBrathah
16:56.22Saroztry that :|
16:56.25Sarozstuck in AB
16:56.26Sarozzzzz
16:56.28TecnoBratkk, will do
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16:56.35TecnoBratArenas ftw :)
16:56.44Sarozftl, sux
16:57.25MikkTornhoof: baggins
16:57.38TecnoBratWe were doing our 5 mans yesterday, I'm a paladin .. and none of their health was changing
16:57.44CIA-2203gagorian * r37226 10Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0/ClassModules/Warlock.lua:
16:57.44CIA-22Threat-1.0:
16:57.44CIA-22- Warlock Module: Siphon life threat r1: 52-53 r6: 126 - 126.9, extrapolate ranks 2-5 from between
16:57.45TecnoBratI was like .. woot
16:57.53TecnoBratand then I saw like 2 people dead
16:57.57Tornhoofbaggins has a onebag mode?
16:57.59Sarozhaha
16:58.10TecnoBratuhh wtf? ... so I started clicking on people manually (like their character), and healing them
16:58.12TecnoBratand we still won
16:58.18Sarozhaha
16:59.12MikkTornhoof: yes
16:59.15Mikkand onebank
16:59.18SarozMikk, cant zoom out on cart with right-click anymore
16:59.25Mikko.O
16:59.28SarozMikk, oh wait, updating
16:59.42Sarozwerent you playing with that before?
16:59.42Tornhoofya I'm using onebag/onebank atm
16:59.44MegalonGagorian: intra, not extra ;P
16:59.49Tornhoofi guess i'm gonna write my own sorter then
16:59.58MikkSaroz: no, i've never seen problems with zooming out
17:00.08Sarozim in a BG, dunno
17:00.10TecnoBratI love OneBag, OneBank and OneView :)
17:00.23Mikki need sortage in my bags
17:00.33Tornhoofyeh me too
17:00.38ThraeI still like MrPlow's sortage.
17:00.42TecnoBratI just use MrPlow
17:00.43SarozTecnoBrat, works here now
17:01.01TecnoBratSaroz, reloading and testing right now also (packages just updated)
17:01.17Mikkand baggins does nice things like keep track of my itemrack/closetgnome sets for me and stick those in a category of their own
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17:01.32GagorianMegalon: Umm, true :D
17:01.44Mikkand lets me create additional bank views, liek one i have where i have 1 section per slot
17:01.49Mikk(yeah i have too much gear in my bank)
17:02.14Mikkgranted, baggins' filtering isn't exactly newcomer friendly
17:02.24Mikknearly assumes you're a programmer
17:02.25Mikkbut, hey, i'm a programmer
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17:03.14SarozTekkub, oooookay, odd stuff going on, brr
17:04.35Mikk(hrm.. i should make my setup a bit more generic and include it as a baggins default)
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17:05.31TecnoBratif that rogue didnt try to drag out that arena ..... lol
17:05.42GagorianAha, figured out the threat formula mayhaps
17:05.52nevcairielheh
17:06.08TecnoBratno such luck Saroz
17:06.13SarozTecnoBrat, on it
17:06.14nevcairielthey have some really complex formulas sometimes
17:06.38CIA-2203saroz * r37227 10sRaidFrames/sRaidFrames.lua: sRaidFrames: Never reset frames
17:06.44TecnoBrathaha
17:07.04GagorianSiphon life seems to be level learned * 2 * modifiers
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17:07.38CasknoirHello
17:07.42Mikkhm. yaknow what i want?
17:07.49Mikki want cartographer to be able to zoom in on the map
17:07.56Mikkas in more than scale 1.0
17:08.50b33nel\floCan anyone tell me where i can find the layout for (ag_unitframes) >> http://img150.imageshack.us/img150/4389/unitframesdreamlayoutpf7.jpg
17:09.38TecnoBratwhere did you find that screenshot?
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17:10.21Funkeh`hi all
17:10.30TecnoBratwow, you guys have done some amazing work on Threat-1.0 and Omen
17:10.31b33nel\flothats screenshot of my old ui
17:10.39TecnoBratLots of progress in a very short time
17:11.30b33nel\floDoes anyone know where i can find the layout?? http://img150.imageshack.us/img150/4389/unitframesdreamlayoutpf7.jpg
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17:11.34lightsourceHello.
17:11.42lightsourceI would like to know where to get Ace2
17:11.51lightsourceI may just be dumb. But I CANNOT find it.
17:11.52Josh_Borkelightsource: www.wowinterface.com
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17:11.57Mikkhttp://files.wowace.com
17:12.02Josh_Borkelightsource: or for beta versions, files.wowace.com
17:12.06SarozTecnoBrat, let me know
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17:12.13Kalman|~seen Antiarc
17:12.41purlantiarc is currently on #wowi-lounge (1h 54m 57s) #wowace (1h 54m 57s), last said: 'I'll wrap up the class modules tomorrow.'.
17:12.41lightsourceThank you
17:12.48lightsourceSoa ll I need to do is download Ace2 and extract to Addons folder?
17:13.06TecnoBratSaroz, just checked out from svn .. cause I dont wanna wait another 10 mins, lol
17:13.14Josh_Borkepurl, antiarc--
17:13.17SarozTecnoBrat, good practice :p
17:13.24Josh_Borkelightsource: do you know what Ace2 is?
17:14.29MikkYou never really need to download "Ace2" as such
17:14.42lightsourceUmm
17:14.44lightsourcenot exactly
17:14.44MikkIt's just a library. And it comes embedded in addons that use it.
17:14.48lightsourcei know its like a library
17:14.53lightsourceyea.
17:15.03Josh_Borkelightsource: why are you downloading it then?
17:15.20lightsourceFor a plugin
17:15.27Josh_Borkewhat sort of plugin?
17:15.28BankZToadkiller ever come here?
17:15.38BankZI got a request for autobar :)
17:15.43Josh_BorkeMikk:  what about TimeKeeper as the clock name?
17:16.03Mikki'm a fan of more descriptive names
17:16.05Casknoirexcuse me, i have a problem with durability_Fu
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17:16.20Mikkyou probably don't want to ask me about names if you want them to seem Acey
17:16.25lightsourceJosh_Borke: ItemPriceTooltip
17:16.33Casknoirwhen i use it, location_fu doesn't work
17:16.34Josh_BorkeMikk:  it's not Ace :X
17:17.00Mikkwell.. "Acey names" = "Names have no connection whatsoever with what the addon actually does" to me =P
17:17.05nevcairielheh
17:17.09sedatedChipmunkhehe
17:17.17Josh_Borkelightsource: for most Ace2 addons the library should be embedded (included) into the addon
17:17.18CIA-2203Tristan * r37228 10ShammySpy/ (Data.lua Frames.lua ShammySpy.lua):
17:17.18CIA-22ShammySpy:
17:17.18CIA-22- Further pulse fixes
17:18.02lightsourceJosh_Borke: but it is good to have the Ace2 original library isnt it?
17:18.06ThraeMikk: Usually their name does have something to do with it, but it's a tenuous link at best. Like how PerfectTargets will be renamed to "Draedis" per Tekkub's request. Like everyone knows where "Draedis" comes from.
17:18.17lightsourceJosh_Borke: becuase sometimes addon's have Ace2 as a dependency
17:18.37TekkubDradis, it's not a Draenei
17:18.47ThraeBah, the master corrects me.
17:18.57Tekkubdo it already!
17:19.09Tekkuband what's wrong with the name?
17:19.17TecnoBratSaroz, YAY!
17:19.22Mikksounds like a radar to me
17:19.24SarozTecnoBrat, finally
17:19.29ThraeYou and Mikma, sheesh!
17:19.29Mikkmeant to pinpoint enemies on the minimap?
17:19.36Tekkubsee Mikk's not as stupid as you thought
17:19.36sedatedChipmunkactually, i think it's DRADIS
17:19.38Finlightsource: Ace2 is normally embedded into the addons themselves, a copy of the libraries come prepackaged with it
17:19.47Finoh!
17:19.48Fingodammit
17:19.52FinI had scroll lock on
17:19.59Tekkubnot minimap, but still to find enemies
17:20.11lightsourceAlright thnx Fin and Josh_Borke
17:20.33Mikk"Omnibus" <- notepad?
17:20.38Finyes
17:20.45Tekkubyea that one I don't get
17:20.47ThraeSure, but with "PerfectTargets", you know it has something to do with better targetting ;)
17:20.49Mikk"Prat" <- huh?
17:20.53Finswedish for chat
17:20.57sedatedChipmunkPrattle
17:21.00sedatedChipmunkchat
17:21.04Mikk"CorkFu" <- bluh?
17:21.08sedatedChipmunk~dict prattle
17:21.08Finput a cork in it
17:21.09Fisker-I thought it was Prata
17:21.13TekkubPrat's still a crappy name if ya ask meh :)
17:21.28ThraeTekkub: You just don't like the addon itself.
17:21.31Finat least it's not called Prick or Twat
17:21.32sedatedChipmunkmade sense to me
17:21.40TecnoBratthanks Saroz :)
17:21.44TekkubI like names that sorta imply functionality, and when you see what the addon does you go "Oh, YEA!"
17:21.48Mikkand most of the libs make me want to cry
17:21.59sedatedChipmunklol
17:22.00Funkeh`Mikk: you broke cartographer!
17:22.04Mikk"Crayon", "Babble"
17:22.08Finsome of them are a bit.. contrived..
17:22.10Fin+..
17:22.11sedatedChipmunkyea, libs really should make more sense
17:22.16TekkubMikk, both ckk's
17:22.22Tekkub^^
17:22.23sedatedChipmunkckk's libs are terrible
17:22.27Mikkshush you're guilty of cork
17:22.29Finthey should at east have Lib in the filename I reckon
17:22.30sedatedChipmunkhaha
17:22.36nevcairielit took me 5 minutes to remember where Draedis comes from, and i dont think lot of people will remember that :P but sill a cool name
17:22.41FinI really don't understand why some people disagree so violently
17:22.41sedatedChipmunkDRADIS
17:22.44TekkubCork what the most creative I could come up with, that one was hard
17:22.48Thraenevcairiel: Dradis, as I was corrected
17:22.54nevcairielyeah
17:22.55MikkFunkeh`: how?
17:22.55sedatedChipmunkno, DRADIS
17:22.55nevcairielstill
17:23.02Tekkuband it was a backwards mockey of needylist
17:23.03ChompersDRADIS CONTACT
17:23.07ThraesedatedChipmunk: You don't have to shout! :D
17:23.07ChompersCBDR
17:23.14Mikk"Stitch" <- TradeSkillQueueLib anyone?
17:23.14Funkeh`Mikk: if you zoom out to view both continents, the world map, its locked and you can't click azeroth or outland
17:23.43ThraeTekkub: Should have named it EzModeFu ;)
17:23.52FinI tell you what gets on my tits
17:23.57Mikkwait, i'm onna roll
17:23.58ThraeOr even EZFU
17:24.04Finaddons with helper bits that have really generic names
17:24.11Finlike "Toolbox" or "SupportFuncs"
17:25.10sedatedChipmunkyou're a toolbox
17:25.10Finafter a while I never know whether half of them are needed anymore
17:25.11Finyour mum's a toolbox
17:25.11TekkubI called my generic func lib tekTech
17:25.11nevcairielanyway, where did Squeenix come from ? or is that some reference i dont get ? :P
17:25.12hyperChipmunksqueenix is perhaps the worst name of all
17:25.20Mikk"Aloft", "Antagonist", "Banzai", "AuldLangSyne", "Baddiel", "BigTrouble",
17:25.23Tekkubwhen I played FFXI I always called Square Enix Squeenix
17:25.31hyperChipmunkthe only thing it has going for it is that SQU at the start
17:25.36Mikk"CandyBar"
17:25.41Finthat's OK
17:25.44TekkubSqueenix is the best one, an old FFXI friend found me when he saw it
17:25.46FinCandyBar I reckon makes sense
17:25.55Finif it's about Bars
17:26.06Tekkubhe woulda never known I wrote addons had he not noticed that name
17:26.07ThraeMikk: Didn't you help with Dewdrop?
17:26.22Mikk"DarkCandy"
17:26.32hyperChipmunki thought CandyBar was for noblegarden tracking
17:26.49ThraeCandyBar == A statusbar that's so frickin' sweet?
17:26.50MikkThrae: Um no?
17:26.54Finincidentally, what did SRA stand for? Simple Raid Addons? **
17:27.02Fin** I'm not actually going to get a serious reply, am I
17:27.03MikkI did a checkin on it Dewdrop this morning tho
17:27.16hyperChipmunkstupid retarded addon
17:27.41Tekkubsuper rare asshole
17:27.44Finmaybe it was just an exclamation
17:27.46Fin"SRA!"
17:27.59TekkubSorry, run, aggro!
17:28.01Finlike, "SRA! You're dead!"
17:28.30Finseemingly redundant acronym
17:28.52FinSRA!
17:28.52ThraeBetter would be "Train2Zone"
17:29.46MikkFunkeh`: Gah, you're absolutely right, i can reproduce here. It works everywhere else, but drilling down from the cosmic view doesn't want to happen. SIGH.
17:29.58Funkeh`:/
17:30.54Thrae"...i can reproduce here...drilling...doesn't want to happen." <-- Try Cialis?
17:31.03Kirkburnhaha
17:31.36KirkburnIf every addon was named after what it did, that would be far too simple
17:31.56TecnoBratanyone seeing mobs float a lot since the patch
17:32.00KirkburnYeah
17:32.04TecnoBratlike float through the ground, etc
17:32.18ThraeTecnoBrat: Only when I drink.
17:32.25Mikk"TickTo", "How many ticks? (Punkie)"  <- elemental, dear kirkburn!
17:32.28KirkburnMikk, plus you can't make an awesome logo for "Improved and expanded personal loot frames"
17:32.30TecnoBratheh
17:32.32Mikkelementary*
17:32.58WatsonMy, you are in the right of it!
17:33.00Mikk"KickassLootFrames" <- tadaa
17:33.20ThraeSherlock Holmes playing a Shaman - "Elemental, my dear Watson!"
17:33.25Kirkburn(at least I didn't type Kirkbum ><)
17:33.26FinTecnoBrat: yes
17:33.58FinThrae: -2 points, but +5 points also!
17:34.26Finfor humour
17:34.30ThraeThere you go, that's an excellent obscure reference. Name your shaman addon "Holmes" to REALLY confuse people. When asked, say "Why, the answer is Elemental my dear Watson!"
17:34.44KirkburnHey! I thought of Watson first :(
17:34.50CIA-2203clovenhoof * r37229 10RootsBidder/ (GUI/GUI.lua RootsBidder.lua):
17:34.50CIA-22RootsBidder:
17:34.50CIA-22- Removed some debugging spam
17:34.50CIA-22- Changed timers so initial timer is 60sec instead of the normal 20sec, other timers stay 20sec
17:35.04Mikk"GonffBar"
17:35.08MikkTehre, now i got to needle wobin too
17:35.14Finsounds a bit dirty
17:35.26ThraeKirkburn: Actually, I think Sir Arthur Conan Doyle did :D
17:35.27KirkburnSounds rather woooooody, I say
17:35.35KirkburnThrae, lies! All lies!
17:35.49FinI can imagine "gonffing" done at private parties organised by middle-aged couples
17:35.57Mikkhehehehe
17:36.22ThraeGoogle thinks Goff is a "mousethief".
17:36.22Kirkburn"Parties", now that's an awfully tinny word, I say
17:36.44ThraeOh wait, "Gonff".
17:36.48Finwhat would you use instead of Parties?
17:36.58ThraeYeah, "Gonff" is the mousethief.
17:37.19KebinusanI wish mrlow had more advanced sorting options, like by PT category
17:37.28Kalman|Should have called a mousethief Fafhrd, or Lieber.
17:37.29KirkburnFin, I can think of several words.
17:37.50MikkKebinusan: Baggins
17:38.05Thrae"Gonff" appears to be a character from the "Legend of Luke", a British publication.
17:38.19ThraeWhat was Wobin again, German? Danish? Croquette?
17:38.24hyperChipmunkaussie
17:38.59KirkburnAustrian, you say?
17:39.11hyperChipmunkfrom the land of Oz
17:39.12FinKirkburn: go on then! I can't, is why I asked :)
17:39.34Finheh
17:39.44Finhrr
17:39.53KirkburnhyperChipmunk, I think the land of Oz was in a fairy tale ...
17:39.54Finand another thing
17:40.08FinI always used to type "heheh" for a laugh, it doesn't seem right just "hehe"
17:40.11KirkburnI doubt Wobin is Dorothy
17:40.14Findamn you WoW
17:40.15ThraeYes, "The Legend of Luke" was a young adult's book that won the Austrlian Young Reader's award. Maybe Wobin read it as a child.
17:40.39MikkMaybe Wobin read it last month? =P
17:40.40ThraeIt was made by Brian Jacques, a British author, published as part of the "Redwall" series.
17:40.46Fin"young adult" == "young reader"?
17:41.07ThraeFin: "Young adult" in books normally entails 14-18 ;)
17:41.12FinKielder Village is a small settlement in Northumberland, England. Located at the head of Kielder Water and in the north west of Kielder Forest, the village is two miles from the Scottish border.
17:41.23KirkburnI've been to Kielder
17:41.28FinThrae: what about magazines with mostly photos?
17:41.28Fin:P
17:41.43FinI've been to England
17:41.48ThraeFin: Those aren't books!
17:42.01FinThrae: but are they young adults?
17:42.08KirkburnKielder is an awesome place, there's a wonderful adventure centre / chalets there
17:42.11Finwell, one is, she's holding up her ID
17:42.18ThraeFin: They may have a different criteria, that's all ;)
17:42.22Finhehe
17:42.27Fin+h!
17:42.29Findamn you, WoW!
17:42.30KirkburnAny reason why you linked Kielder??
17:42.34CIA-2203fenlis * r37230 10BigWigs/ (7 files in 3 dirs):
17:42.34CIA-22BigWigs:
17:42.34CIA-22<PROTECTED>
17:43.40FinI can think of several
17:43.45hyperChipmunklol the linux car was the first to crash in the indy 500 =(
17:44.01Josh_Borke:-(
17:44.02Josh_Borkelol
17:44.03Finit was never made to run on SGI hardware anyway
17:44.09Fin</lame joke, sorry>
17:44.25Josh_Borkeyea, REALLY lame
17:44.34Fin-5 points
17:44.41hyperChipmunkoh waw
17:44.44hyperChipmunkyea
17:44.47Josh_Borkepurl, fin--
17:44.49hyperChipmunk-10 for that
17:44.50ulicdoh, the Indycar with Tux on it just crashed
17:45.02Josh_Borkeulic: not bad, only 65 seconds late
17:45.06Kirkburnheehee
17:45.19ulicJosh_Borke: I was busy trying to see the sticker :)
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17:46.45Fisker-http://img.4chan.org/b/src/1180287877671.jpg
17:47.13FinFisker-: hahah
17:47.23dodgizzlaHm, how come, that PitBull shows me 70+ when I use [level][plus] but TinyTip just says 70 on the same mob?
17:47.36dodgizzlaJust noticed it with some trash in Kara
17:48.01Finshouldn't it be [plus?plus]
17:48.15hyperChipmunkdodgizzla: elite
17:48.20hyperChipmunk+ means elite
17:48.53hyperChipmunkhaha, the caution resulting from the crash totally screwed up the leader
17:49.14hyperChipmunkthe metaphor redeems itself
17:49.21dodgizzlaFin: wiki says ""+" if the unit is a plus mob. Otherwise blank."
17:49.37Finkk, makes sense
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17:50.05Josh_Borkelol
17:50.22dodgizzlahyperChipmunk: There is no [elite] tag, if you meant that
17:50.28dodgizzlaI just wondered why it's not consistent
17:50.45Finit's just different terms for the same thing, an'ting
17:50.58Fisker-Bibi
17:51.01Fisker-wtf r u doin?
17:51.06hyperChipmunk69+ is the textual representation of '69 with a gold dragon around it'
17:51.30hyperChipmunki.e. elite
17:51.40dodgizzlahyperChipmunk: Yeah I know, but why does PitBull return '+' on a mob that is not elite (at least for TinyTip)
17:52.02hyperChipmunkah, because ckk is a dork
17:52.10CIA-2203gagorian * r37231 10Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0/ClassModules/Warlock.lua:
17:52.10CIA-22Threat-1.0:
17:52.10CIA-22- Warlock Module: General formula for all curses all ranks, every value I tested was accurate to 1 threat
17:52.40dodgizzlahyperChipmunk: I see :D
17:53.18ThraeTinyTip returns + for a mob that's not elite? How the hell does that even happen?
17:54.24dodgizzlaThrae: No, DogTag returns + for a mob that's not elite
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17:55.51ThraeOh, well then it's probably not using UnitClassification right then.
17:55.51FinI've never been to Karazhan, but don't most instances have elite trash? is it possible TT is just not showing elititude for some reason?
17:55.51Finperhaps
17:55.51Finyou're hallucinating
17:56.01Finhave you tried lying down for a while?
17:56.22Arrowmastertry checking the tinytip settings
17:56.38CIA-2203Tristan * r37232 10ShammySpy/ (Data.lua ShammySpy.lua):
17:56.38CIA-22ShammySpy:
17:56.38CIA-22- Fixed Stoneclaw Totem having 5 life and dying instantly
17:56.43Loki|muhthere are non-elite 70's in kara...
17:56.44Arrowmasteryou probably dont have it set to display level and classification how your expecting it to display
17:56.50Loki|muhthe dancers e.g.
17:56.56Azurewrathanyone involved in Quartz development? Since nymbia isn't here :)
17:57.09dodgizzlaFin: I'm already going easy on the crack today...
17:57.29dodgizzlaI'm talking about the Spectral Patrons after the Opera Event that come with elite Ghostly Philantropists
17:57.30ThraeTinyTip doesn't have settings to change how UnitClassification is displayed, except it can show Level+ or Level <Elite/Rare/Boss/Rare Elite>
17:57.44ThraeThe actual code is like 5 lines
17:58.05dodgizzlaThat elite mobs do show + (or * I dunno) but that spectral dudes just show up with "level"; on my pitbull target frame they are both "level+"
17:58.06Arrowmasterthose spectral patrons are not elite
17:58.15dodgizzlaHaha! See, don't blame the crack!
17:58.28FinOK, fine
17:58.28Bibi[19:50:36] <Fisker-> Bibi
17:58.28Bibi[19:50:40] <Fisker-> wtf r u doin?
17:58.30BibiWhat did I do ?
17:58.35Bibior what did I not do ? :(
17:58.50aen`do u need sanity2 for sanitybags?
17:59.38Fisker-you did it wrong Bibi
17:59.41Thraedodgizzla: Next time you have one targetted, do /script DEFAULT_CHAT_FRAME:AddMessage( UnitClassification("target") )
17:59.50dodgizzlauhm
17:59.52Bibiwhat ? :(
18:01.02aen`anyone?
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18:01.09aen`whats diff b/t sanity2 and sanitybags?
18:01.11dodgizzlai'll try, but we cleared through already
18:01.33dodgizzlaWhen I notice it again, I'll see what that script says
18:01.44Finso
18:01.48Finit *could* still be the crack
18:02.01Finyou don't have any proof of this "+" you did - or didn't - see
18:02.22Kebinusantheres that new [flyable] condition for macro, how would you have a macro do something if the condition is false
18:02.36Josh_BorkeKebinusan: use your other mount
18:02.43Kalman|Keb: noflyable?
18:02.47ThraeKebinusan: Use the ground mount not in Outland
18:02.47CIA-2203next96 * r37233 10Cartographer/Cartographer_LookNFeel/LookNFeel.lua:
18:02.47CIA-22Cartographer:
18:02.47CIA-22- LookNFeel.lua
18:02.47CIA-22- Update locale koKR
18:02.58Daemona./cast [flyable]flightmount; ground mount?
18:03.08Daemonaand generally no works as inversaion
18:03.09ThraeKebinusan: /equip [flyable] flightmount; groundmount
18:03.10Kebinusanyeah use my ground mount if it cant fly
18:03.17dodgizzlaFin: I'm gonna say nothing until my lawyer has arrived.
18:03.28dodgizzlaIt's the voices! They're telling me to do stuff!
18:03.35KebinusanAh I had one as an equip and one as a cast guess I didnt try casting something that was an item in my inventory
18:03.39Kalman|Your lawyer sells crack too?  Very useful.
18:03.42snurrehm
18:03.49snurreviolation counts damage dealt to yourself o.O
18:03.58Tornhoofcan i securehook playsound?
18:04.02ThraeKebinusan: Cast only works for Warlocks and Paladins, other people need to use /use
18:04.04Daemonamore shadowword: deaeth !
18:04.40dodgizzlahe's somehow affiliated to the crackwhore magazine, it that helps..
18:06.44KirkburnHow would you alter the macro to choose from 4 ground mounts when not flyable?
18:07.10Matrix110lag?
18:07.18Matrix110wtf
18:07.25Matrix110why doesnt it arrive when i type /userandom
18:07.27Matrix110ah now
18:07.36Matrix110and no i made a space before it:P
18:07.57KirkburnWhat in the hell are you talking about?
18:08.28Matrix110"How would you alter the macro to choose from 4 ground mounts when not flyable?"
18:10.34hyperChipmunkmade perfect sense to me
18:10.35Matrix110mine is for example /userandom [flyable] Swift Red Gryphon; Reins of the Swift Frostsaber,Palomino Bridle
18:10.38hyperChipmunk(not really)
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18:11.29Matrix110i was just a bit confused because i tried to asnwer Kirkburns question and it didnt arrive when i just typed /userandom :P
18:11.36Matrix110-r
18:11.39KirkburnMatrix110, aha :P Ta
18:11.55Matrix110works with more than 1 flying mount aswell
18:11.59Matrix110atleast it should
18:14.17sbuwhy not make 2 lines?
18:14.34BankZAnyone know a addon like Autobar?
18:14.43sbuuserandom with [flyable] + [noflyable]
18:14.56KirkburnY'know, I've never seen Pitbull Barfader work ...
18:15.16hyperChipmunksux to be you
18:15.33hyperChipmunkit's magical
18:15.35Kirkburn:(
18:16.37BankZwhats Pitbull Barfader?
18:17.35BankZahhh pitbull is a unitframe
18:18.55BankZAnyone know a addon like Autobar?
18:19.06rubikPT3Bar?
18:19.17BankZI like autobar, just wish it would fade out
18:19.29BankZlet me check that out
18:19.49CIA-2203stormfx * r37234 10cyCircled_Onyx/ (13 files in 3 dirs):
18:19.49CIA-22cyCircled_Onyx:
18:19.49CIA-22- Added externals (Shame on me!).
18:19.49CIA-22- Minor ToC fix. Should sort correctly in-game.
18:19.49CIA-22- Minor code/File tweaks.
18:21.50Adirelleerr, vhaar, what about adding a threat module to violation ? :p
18:21.59vhaarrammo already did
18:22.10Adirelleneed to update then
18:23.40snurredoesnt work properly, but at least its there :)
18:23.55nevcairielthats the threat module which is not finished
18:24.11Kalman|Is Threat using compatible communication with KTM or is the interplayer messaging different between the two?
18:25.26nevcairieldifferent
18:25.29AdirelleKalman|: different, it is based on Violation
18:26.27Adirelleinterfacing Violation with similar addon could be interesting, but also challenging (SW_Stats communication is awfully complicated)
18:26.35CIA-2203stormfx * r37235 10cyCircled_Vol/ (11 files in 2 dirs):
18:26.35CIA-22cyCircled_Vol:
18:26.35CIA-22- Initial Commit: Converted to Skin Pack
18:26.35CIA-22- Vol Skin for cyCircled
18:26.41Kalman|Yeah, but without having compatible comms, Threat will run into issues; one of the major reasons oRA saw such good uptake was that it mimicked CTRA.
18:27.06Kalman|Network effect, etc.
18:27.06Thorgard^2It was 'cause it was superior, for me. ;P
18:27.12snurrehow hard would it be to make a module that simply reads ktm spam, but doesnt send any?
18:27.24Adirelledepends on KTM comms
18:27.32Kalman|KTM threat comms are very simple.
18:27.51aen`anyone know how to sort thieves tools in sanity? name: thieves wont work
18:27.56Kalman|Something like KLHTM_tXXXXX where Xes are your numeric threat.
18:28.12snurreKLHTM xxxxx
18:28.32Kalman|He prefixes threat values with t; the other prefixes are for versioning and such.
18:28.55CIA-2203stormfx * r37236 10cyCircled_Vol/libs/:
18:28.55CIA-22cyCircled_Vol:
18:28.55CIA-22- Added externals
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18:31.03CIA-2203stormfx * r37237 10cyCircled_GoldOrbs/ (11 files in 2 dirs):
18:31.03CIA-22cyCircled_GoldOrbs:
18:31.03CIA-22- Initial Commit: Converted to Skin Pack
18:31.03CIA-22- GoldOrbs Skin for cyCircled
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18:33.04CIA-2203stormfx * r37238 10cyCircled_GoldOrbs/libs/:
18:33.04CIA-22cyCircled_GoldOrbs:
18:33.04CIA-22- Added externals
18:33.27sbuwould some included file (in .toc) that doesnt exist cause any problems?
18:33.51nevcairielno
18:33.59nevcairielunless that file is needed, of course :P
18:34.05sbuahh nvm... %-)
18:34.07sbu*selfstab*
18:34.17sbuthis is done with externals all the time!? :o
18:34.25nevcairielyes
18:34.25nevcairiel:P
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18:35.07krunk-anyone know of a good tradeskill tracker queue? Something like Jigsaw, but not as buggy?
18:36.18aneaany siteadmins reading this? :) my wiki-page http://www.wowace.com/wiki/SpamSentry doesn't look like it used to ;-)
18:36.24MikkThread peeps: Just use KLHTM compatible comms as far as possible fgs =P
18:36.27MikkThreat*
18:36.39MikkIf the format is THAT bloody easy... why not just read & send whatever's possible in it?
18:38.17Mikk(You'll also see usage for Threat swing up a hell of a lot faster... Requiring whole guilds to switch at once for it to be useful = lose)
18:38.37Adirelleis there a builtin caps to CombatLogRange ?
18:38.37sbuuhm no
18:38.51sbumy guild would be happy to switch over ;p
18:39.20MikkAdirelle: Iirc blizz ignores that setting now. Or has the upper cap = the default value.
18:39.28MikkThey didn't like us extending it to thousands of yards :S
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18:39.59AdirelleMikk: some people on this chan told me Blizz has put them back in 2.1
18:40.20kenlyric|homeit should just be built in that we know everything that happens around everyone in the raid.
18:40.35MikkAdirelle: oho?
18:40.41Adirelleright, in instance it shouldn't be a trouble
18:40.55AdirelleMikk: yep, arrowmaster if I remember, but I didn't tested it myself
18:41.39Arrowmaster??
18:41.57KirkburnQuick, everyone, glare at Arrowmaster!
18:42.05Thorgard^2G'damnit, Arrowmaster./
18:42.07Arrowmasterwtf did i do?
18:42.17Thorgard^2You know very well what you did.
18:42.21Thorgard^2And you know it's WRONG.
18:42.24KirkburnYou can't feign ignorance, we see right thru it!
18:42.59unduWhat's the script command to set loot treshhold, and can you set it to common that way?
18:43.17ArrowmasterSetLootTreshold() or something like that
18:43.19Arrowmasterits on wowwiki
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18:43.46Arrowmastergrouploot on grays is funny
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18:45.39dottedyou can do that?
18:46.36Arrowmasteryeah
18:47.10CIA-2203stormfx * r37239 10cyCircled/skins.lua:
18:47.10CIA-22cyCircled:
18:47.10CIA-22- GoldOrbs skin now a separate package.
18:47.10CIA-22- Vol Skin now a separate package.
18:47.56Arrowmasteri set grouploot on whites once when farming the brood rep items in silithus, everybody in the group saw them in grouploot even if they didnt have an agent of noz thingy
18:48.03AdirelleArrowmaster: we were talking about combatlograng CVARs in 2.1
18:48.16Arrowmasteri havent tested combatlog cvars in 2.1
18:48.23Arrowmasteri just know they stoped working in 2.0.12
18:49.13CryectThey seem to work fine 2.1
18:49.20Arrowmasterorly?
18:49.23Mikkgogo 38 bytes/s. feel just like sourceforge
18:49.28Cryecteither that or the default combat log range is really huge
18:49.48Silviu-vhaarr, [Ammo]  ping ;p
18:49.53Cryectmy numbers in recount match exactly the numbers in SWStats in all the fights I've checked and I'm not doing syncing
18:50.08CIA-2203gagorian * r37240 10Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0/ClassModules/Warlock.lua:
18:50.08CIA-22Threat-1.0:
18:50.08CIA-22- Warlock Module: Filled up the remainder of missing threat values for all ranks of buffs, fears, banishes. Should be accurate.
18:50.08Cryectand I know for the base ranges in the past that wouldn't be true
18:50.41Arrowmasterill have to go fly around a zone and see how far i get death msgs from
18:50.59Mikkokay, fess up, who's doing a self-forking recursive fibonacci calculation on the svn server?
18:51.00Cryectyou actually changed the death message log range?
18:51.02aen`anyone around that can help with sanitybags?
18:51.04CryectMost people don't change that one :-p
18:51.17Arrowmasteryeah i was a one man nefcount
18:51.51Adirelledamn, damagemeters and swstats sync comms are very complicated :/
18:52.00Cryectits almost always the one  I see left off lists for what to change
18:52.02CryectNot really
18:52.06Cryectdamage meters is pretty simple
18:52.11Cryectand the idea makes sense
18:52.13Adirelleat least the code... I'd have to look at it running
18:52.17Arrowmasteri hate damage meter syncs
18:52.18CryectRead the readme file
18:52.22Cryectit tells you the theory
18:52.27Cryectyou can do it in realtime as well if you wanted
18:52.39BankZPT3Bar isnt really a bar is it?  its more like buttons
18:52.41Adirellewife's back, gtg
18:52.42Adirelle:p
18:53.05CryectThe basic idea is if the number added results in your sum <= than the other persons sum who sends the event then you want to add that event
18:53.10MikkI can see how syncing with swstats would be a bloody nightmare
18:53.29sbuAdirelle: gtg as in 'bb in 10 minutes'? :p
18:53.29MikkWith the timeline stuff and all
18:53.35CryectSWStats syncing I've got no idea how it works exactly
18:54.23CIA-2203mikk * r37241 10Cartographer/Cartographer_LookNFeel/LookNFeel.lua:
18:54.23CIA-22Cartographer:
18:54.23CIA-22- Make sure that children of WorldMapButton actually have higher framelevel and live on the same strata
18:54.23CIA-22- This solves the worlds not being clickable in the cosmos-wide view
18:54.32Adirellesbu: as in 'bb in an undefined time, from one hour to two days'
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18:55.32MikkHmm.. You know what I want in the files.wowace.com listing?  I want a clickable link to the main site for the addon as defined in the .toc fields
18:56.37Mikksigh, wtb pastamancer
18:56.51dotteddid files die?
18:57.11hyperChipmunkwowace.com is slow
18:57.25Cryectkaelten has been messing with it the past day so maybe
18:57.26TheKarnpoke Kaelten
18:57.33Cryect~seen Kaelten
18:58.00purlkaelten <n=chatzill@c-69-181-47-80.hsd1.ca.comcast.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 11h 12m 24s ago, saying: 'renchap: same'.
18:58.00renchapyou can use files-wowace.renchap.com
18:58.05CryectHeh yeah its not dead just slow
18:58.11Silviu-renchap btw, thank u :)
18:58.23Silviu-It autosyncs now
18:58.28Silviu--s
18:58.30renchapno
18:58.31aen`im having trouble filtering in sanitybags
18:58.37renchapsvnsync every 10 minutes
18:58.38aen`it wont let me add more than 3 to a bag
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18:59.20Silviu-Oh ok
18:59.31Fisker-Anyone know why like half of our persons using IH can only see half the raid and the other half can only see their raid?
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19:04.12CIA-2203gagorian * r37242 10Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0/ClassModules/Warlock.lua:
19:04.12CIA-22Threat-1.0:
19:04.12CIA-22- Warlock Module: Added threat for fel armor, demon armor, demon skin and howl of terror
19:04.40hyperChipmunkwhat warlock-specific mods are considered must-have?
19:05.56KeiasJust something to track dots and your number of Shards
19:06.14AwaaSS timer?
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19:06.25rronkivhey
19:06.59rronkivwahts a good music player for wow
19:07.12KeiasDo you use a mac?
19:07.13Chomperswinamp in the background
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19:07.18rronkivi use pc
19:07.24Keiasanything with global hotkeys :P
19:07.24rronkivand i dont want to alt tab to change fkin songs
19:07.28rronkivand i dont want to use possible wow hotkeys
19:07.31KeiasI use Foobar2k myself
19:07.41rronkivFoobar2k?
19:07.49Keiasreal minimal media player
19:07.51Keiasgoogle it
19:07.55rronkivoh ok
19:07.57Arrowmasterits foobar2000
19:08.00rronkivi was hoping to find something for wow
19:08.03KeiasI just set a global hotkey for "Next track" and it's fine
19:08.20rronkivwell i party alot while playing wow
19:08.24Bibirronkiv : G15.
19:08.25Bibi^^
19:08.26rronkivso when i have to DJ its easier to pick songs :P
19:08.43HjalteDoes anyone know is there is a replacement for Lexan, now that it's broken?
19:08.58jwwpuawho's the author of Gladiator/Tattle?
19:09.09rronkivis it ace?
19:09.15jwwpuayeah
19:09.28rronkiverr sorry reffering to g15 is it ace?
19:09.32sbujwwpua: sole/nymbia
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19:10.01jwwpuaanyone familiar with it?
19:10.17Chompersi use it in my arena games
19:10.17Keiasg15 is a keyboard model
19:10.17Awaag15 Logitech keyborad i guess
19:10.18sbubetter ask some direct question ;)
19:10.23jwwpuaheh
19:10.36jwwpuais it possible to update the arena info whenever I want?
19:10.36sbuif noone is able to answer, you'll see :p
19:10.40sbuhmm yep
19:10.58jwwpuahow do I update it?
19:11.01Chompersshort answer: no   long answer: yes
19:11.20sbuyou need to get standalone lua
19:11.24sbuand run dataminer
19:11.56jwwpuais that a simple task, or does it require any programming knowledge?
19:13.13sbuuhm, its simple to run, but lua + library stuff can be annoying...
19:13.26sbu(you need http library stuff)
19:13.31Chompersi tried for a couple of days and gave up
19:14.10GagorianAntiarc!
19:14.18CIA-2203hyperactiveChipmunk * r37243 10Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0-Cleanup.lua:
19:14.18CIA-22Threat-1.0:
19:14.18CIA-22- hack fix for line 8 of Threat-1.0-Cleanup.lua
19:14.18CIA-22- I dunno what's supposed to happen, but this gets rid of the error. Antiarc can fix it later.
19:14.36jwwpuahrm
19:14.40ckknighthey all
19:14.44ckknighthow's everyone doing
19:14.45Keiashigh
19:14.46Chompershello ck
19:14.48jwwpuaok well maybe i'll mess with it later
19:15.04jwwpuaanyone else having problems with Sanity2 (latest)?
19:15.18Finhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mQj4wjspQZE&eurl=
19:15.45dottedwth is shammyspy supposed to do?
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19:16.40TheKarnjwwpua, whats the problem?
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19:18.13TheKarnAntiarc has made a lot of changes to SanityItemCache (if you're using the newest version) or if you dont have SanityItemCache, you're not running the latest
19:18.15CIA-2203athou * r37244 10FuBar_CraftTimersFu/FuBar_CraftTimersFu.lua:
19:18.15CIA-22FuBar_CraftTimersFu:
19:18.15CIA-22- now remembers the place you logged out your characters
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19:19.25CyrezI'm having a problem with Sanity2, and I know it's the latest, and I do have SanityItemCache.
19:19.44CyrezIt's got some sort of problem with the scanning.
19:19.52CyrezPut it this way...
19:20.02CyrezI have 20 stacks of Mithril Ore in the bank.
19:20.07CyrezIt finds 1.
19:20.25CyrezOr 3 stacks of Silk Cloth in my backpack.
19:20.29CyrezIt finds 1.
19:20.32CyrezLike that.
19:20.45TheKarnhmm
19:20.54TheKarnwhat does it say as the count?
19:21.10CyrezJust the 1.
19:21.24CyrezIt's all screwed up.
19:21.55CyrezIt was working before it was changed for 2.1 even with the funky error it would spit out.
19:22.06TheKarnhmm
19:22.17TheKarnSanity has changed a lot
19:22.23CyrezAnd I even tried clearing it's DB, twice.
19:22.25TheKarni can have a look after this AQ40
19:22.31CyrezSame thing happened.
19:22.41CyrezIt's all messed up.
19:22.49TheKarnyup
19:23.19TheKarnthe way each item was handled internally has been changed which rendered alot of Sanity2 buggy and not working
19:23.40CyrezAt least Compress still works.
19:23.45CyrezThat thing is so dead sexy.
19:23.49TheKarnyeah
19:24.00CyrezI'd like to see a standalone version of that.
19:25.49CIA-2203ckknight * r37245 10Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0/ (Threat-1.0-Cleanup.lua Threat-1.0.lua): Threat-1.0 - minor fixup
19:25.56CIA-2203ckknight * r37246 10Parser-3.0/Parser-3.0/Parser-3.0.lua: Parser-3.0 - optimization
19:26.18jwwpuaTheKarn: ok i have the latest with the sanityitemcache. the problem is that if I have more than 1 filter checked, it doesn't show items that i'm searching for
19:26.35jwwpuaTheKarn: I have to only have Bank or Wearing or Bag checked for it to actually show items that I have typed in
19:26.39CIA-2203ckknight * r37247 10Parser-3.0/Parser-3.0/Parser-3.0.lua: Parser-3.0 - remove the hasPet dealy
19:26.50jwwpuawhat does compress do anyways?
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19:27.45CIA-2203scorpio0920 * r37248 10LittleWigs/TempestKeep/Zereketh.lua: LittleWigs: Tweak zhTW trigger (need to test)
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19:30.09Finhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=066_q4DIeqk&eurl=
19:30.14CIA-2203raut * r37249 10ItemLevelDKP/ (ItemLevelDKP.toc core.lua): ItemLevelDKP: Synced with wow 2.1, minor patch
19:30.51CIA-2203stormfx * r37250 10cyCircled_Onyx/ReadMe.txt:
19:30.51CIA-22cyCircled_Onyx:
19:30.51CIA-22- Added ReadMe file.
19:31.38FinI didn't know one of the dances was based off Napoleon Dynamite
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19:35.46Silviu-ckknight will Threat-1.0 use Parser 3 ?
19:36.07ckknightit switched to 1.1, but I hacked Parser-3.0 up to be on par
19:36.22hyperChipmunkFisker-: have that link to the 'irrational' pic still?
19:36.38ckknightso Antiarc said he'd be switching back
19:37.08Fisker-if it's from 4chan it's dead by now :o
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19:46.16unduis there any addon that can automatically put on /dnd on logon, or depending on what zone you're in(bg's, instances, arenas etc)
19:46.17Fisker-Anyone know if there's something like chronometer that can keep track of (judgements for example) without having to target the mobs?
19:47.05CIA-2203ckknight * r37251 10Parser-3.0/Parser-3.0/Parser-3.0.lua: .Parser-3.0 - check for ambiguous patterns, take out known ambiguities
19:47.27YammYgirlcodingguys. how do I cast string to int?
19:47.37vhaarrtonumber(str)
19:47.41YammYgirlcodingah ty
19:48.02Silviu-vhaarr if u Report to guild it does in /say
19:48.10Silviu-vhaarr Violation i mean
19:48.56YammYgirlcodingand how do I code with localization? Is it right to add an extra XX_file.lua with constants for the strings?
19:49.20Josh_BorkeYammYgirlcoding: that's a perfectly valid way, yes
19:49.43YammYgirlcodinghow can I assure the constants will be read first than the code that use it?
19:50.30YammYgirlcodingand how will the code know which language to use?
19:51.21ckknightYammYgirlcoding: by using a library like AceLocale-2.2, those details are handled for you, but otherwise, you do if GetLocale() == "deDE" then --[[ register german stuff ]] end
19:51.38sdoubleWhen you add waypoints in Cartographer, what order do they go in?  The last waypoint you add is the one shown?
19:51.55YammYgirlcodinghmm is there a table for these locales strings somewhere?
19:52.43ckknightYammYgirlcoding: you can check AceLocale-2.2, I think it has a list
19:52.51ckknightit's not :-P
19:52.58ckknightI really recommend using AceLocale-2.2, though
19:52.59YammYgirlcodingcan't I use any built in locale function?
19:53.02ckknightit simplifies the whole ordeal.
19:53.20YammYgirlcodingI'm not very fan of requiring extra mods
19:53.22ckknightwhat function would that be?
19:53.30AdirelleSilviu-: I wrote print in Violation, I'll take a look
19:53.32ckknightYammYgirlcoding: you do realize you're in #wowace, right? :-P
19:53.33YammYgirlcodingthis getlocale(). any built in ?
19:53.38YammYgirlcodingi know hehe
19:53.40ckknightyes, GetLocale()
19:53.43Josh_BorkeYammYgirlcoding: GetLocale is built in to wow
19:53.48YammYgirlcodingbut the least mods we need, the best, isnt it ;)
19:53.54YammYgirlcodingoh :)
19:53.57Silviu-Adirelle okay ;)
19:56.45CIA-2203adirelle * r37252 10Violation/Violation.lua:
19:56.45CIA-22Violation:
19:56.45CIA-22- print commands should send data to the right channel again.
19:56.48snurregrr hate @ morogrim
19:57.01Silviu-Adirelle will test later, thank u
19:57.15Adirellesomething failed during the commit, trying again
19:57.42Adirelleactually, it sucedeed
19:57.48AdirelleI'll test tonight
19:57.59YammYgirlcodingwtf. I printed getLocale ingame, and it said 'default' :p
19:58.09HjalteDoes Omen offer anything Violation doesnt, in regards to Threat?
19:58.32Silviu-Hjalte i guess not but maybe u don`t want an damagemeters too
19:59.16Punkie`Hey guys, is Gruul buggy for anyone? Apparently he is but I don't think so
19:59.54chutwigevery once in a while he bugs out and doesn't shatter or hurtful strike
19:59.57chutwigat least, pre-patch
20:00.03chutwighe was his usual cantankerous self last week
20:00.03sbuPunkie`: no, works fine
20:01.13Punkie`I thought so, someone was just making stupid excuses for our MT not holding aggro
20:01.27CIA-2203ckknight * r37253 10Parser-3.0/Parser-3.0/Parser-3.0.lua: Parser-3.0 - convert attributes to English instead of leaving them localized
20:02.35TecnoBratour offtank pulled from our MT this weel :P
20:03.27Wixihe has no agro issues atm
20:03.30KebinusanPunkie`: no he's been back to his old self this week for us at least
20:03.39chutwighe hurtful strikes and shatters more with this patch
20:03.44Punkie`yeah thats fine
20:03.46Kebinusanhe's been using all his abilities and aside from the hurtful strike thing that was hotfixed
20:03.47chutwigbut if you were able to comfortably kill him pre-patch he's no more difficult
20:03.49Wixihe had a problem at beginning of week of hurtful striking 3rd not 2nd on agro list, but thats fixed now
20:03.54Punkie`yeah i agree
20:04.05Punkie`but we are using another tank instead of our usual
20:04.06TecnoBratoh ...
20:04.07chutwigwe still kill him in 10-11 grows or so, he's pretty trivial
20:04.11TecnoBratOnyxia deep breaths more too
20:04.23Punkie`and we have dps pulling aggro, so he blames the patch and it being bugged
20:04.30chutwignot if you enter the chamber on the right side and run counterclockwise!
20:04.40SarozDoes Violation sync atm?
20:04.42Josh_Borkechutwig: i heard it was clockwise? o.O
20:04.45chutwigas long as everyone only rotates their character left and never right
20:04.51TecnoBratPunkie`, they pulled aggro from the MT, or the OT?
20:04.56chutwigJosh_Borke: clearly you were misinformed by a traitorous scalawag
20:05.47Josh_Borkechutwig: what about strafing?  they said you could only strafe, no running forward or backwards
20:06.05chutwigJosh_Borke: it can have an effect on her DBs if the earth is near perihelion
20:06.08Punkie`TecnoBrat: MT
20:06.15TecnoBratwow ..
20:07.18KirkburnWoah, my flight timers are severly off :/ According to Quartz I still have 3 mins left on my flight SS-->Lakeshire
20:07.36Silviu-2 big features would be awsome ... 1 sync Threat/Violation with KTM ... this is i guess important ... hardly i`ll make ppl in my guild switch to this they don`t even update what they have now ... switch to another addon i guess no way .. and maybe sync with DMM ( not so important ) but nice feature ;)
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20:08.41Chomperseaw, thats not a good idea
20:08.46CIA-2203ckknight * r37254 10Parser-3.0/Parser-3.0/Parser-3.0.lua: Parser-3.0 - add eventType Feed Pet
20:08.51Punkie`TecnoBrat: Nevermind, what an idiot
20:08.51Silviu-Why not ? ;)
20:08.59TecnoBrat?
20:09.05Punkie`he respecced from MS spec and 'forgot' to put points in defiance
20:09.06Punkie`wtf.
20:09.19TecnoBratLOL GG
20:10.18Silviu-Kirkburn i think quartz only hooks into InFlight or tofu timers those addons support them
20:10.35KirkburnIndeed, I have InFlight
20:10.42CIA-2203gagorian * r37255 10Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0/ (3 files in 2 dirs): (log message trimmed)
20:10.42CIA-22Threat-1.0:
20:10.42CIA-22- Temporary fix for abilities that apply threat on application. They weren't
20:10.42CIA-22added to threat if they were applied before the player was in combat, now if the
20:10.42CIA-22cast is within 2 seconds before combat starts the threat will be added during
20:10.43CIA-22next spell cast.
20:10.44Kirkburn(so I have two bars up :P I should fix that)
20:10.45CIA-22- Added variable for combat start time (can be used later for threat per second etc.)
20:10.45sdoubleanyone else have a problem with WAU holding on to it's directory?  
20:11.06KinkxLurker timers are wrong in BigWigs :<
20:11.44sdoubleAfter I updated to the next version of WAU, I can't delete the directory the other version was in until I reboot.  BUT I can delete all of the files inside of that directory including the executable and dll
20:11.45Silviu-gagorian btw, fearie fire feral don`t add threat ?
20:12.17Silviu-gagorian i think it does, if some .. rogue shoot the mob first and makes .. some dmg and then i use FF he come to me ;p
20:12.22ThraeI'm pretty sure Faerie Fire (Feral) does add threat, same as Sunder, except it doesn't stack.
20:12.31Matrix110~seen Arkayenro
20:12.50purlarkayenro <n=raymond_@ppp32-215.lns1.syd6.internode.on.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 143d 13h 31m 6s ago, saying: 'anyone know what i have to do to fix up the svn for my mod, it's totally screwed up somehow on the libs (dev side) and won't checkout at all from the svn side any more'.
20:12.50Silviu-But when i tested today FF did not increase my Threat numbers
20:12.50ThraeThen something's wrong with your threat meter...
20:12.57Josh_Borke<PROTECTED>
20:12.59sdoublehehe
20:13.00GagorianSilviu-: Well it's obviously missing then. Give me the threat value and I'll add it
20:13.03sdoublethat's a long time ago
20:13.19Matrix110hmmm die Arkayenro quit?
20:13.39sdoubleNo one answered his question so he left.
20:14.31CIA-2203ckknight * r37256 10Parser-3.0/Parser-3.0/Parser-3.0.lua: Parser-3.0 - add Create eventType
20:14.38Matrix110guess ill test SanityBags ArkInventory got to many bugs with 2.1
20:15.00sbumh, switched to baggins
20:15.03sbusanity > baggins? :p
20:15.10Matrix110i dunno
20:15.14Matrix110i didnt like Baggins
20:15.24ckknightJosh_Borke: ClockFu?
20:15.31sdouble<3 ClockFu
20:15.43sdoublekeeps me from getting in trouble with the gf
20:15.48nevcairielMiniClockFu imho
20:16.13kergothso whats a decent addon for reminding my forgetful ass about things like transmute cooldown and salt shaker cooldown?
20:16.15sbusdouble: trouble as in 'you wanted to come to bed 3 hours ago?'
20:16.21Josh_Borkeckknight: sorry, doesn't do enough things for me
20:16.28Josh_Borkekergoth: a calendar
20:16.30kergothpfft
20:16.41Silviu-Gagorian don`t know them :(
20:17.56CIA-2203ckknight * r37257 10Parser-3.0/Parser-3.0/Parser-3.0.lua: Parser-3.0 - remove Notification eventType, other eventTypes have deprecated it.
20:18.13TecnoBratkergoth, FuBar_tcgTradeskills
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20:18.35sdoubledoes bartender3 have built in cooldown timers?
20:18.44kergothhrm, that does more than i need though.. /me tries to remember what old addon he used for that
20:18.58kergothsdouble, pretty sure it doesnt, but it does have red range.  you'll want omnicc or cooldowncount
20:19.02ckknightno, sdouble
20:19.08Josh_Borke<3 omnicc
20:19.21sdoubleok, I couldn't find the option anywhere so I thought I'd ask.  Thanks guys.  =]
20:19.38Icerothjust get omnicc and be happy :)
20:19.57GagorianSilviu-: Test them then, I did that too :P
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20:20.41ArcticCan anybody tell me how to get http://www.wowace.com/wiki/Ag_UnitFrames working?
20:20.43YammYgirlcodingany german could tell how to say 'requires level' ?
20:21.03ArcticI have it in my addons folder but it's not working in-game. It also doesn't show up as an addon in my character screen.
20:21.25TecnoBratquit wow and restarted it completely?
20:21.44ArcticYep!
20:21.58TecnoBratthen its not in your addons folder properly.
20:22.12ArcticI thought it might have been a dependencies problem so I downloaded all of them.
20:22.18aen`yeah, im having alot of problems with sanity
20:22.32TecnoBratif it was a dep problem, it would still show on your addons screen
20:22.41TecnoBratnot being on your addons screen means wow cant find it
20:22.53ArcticLOL!
20:22.58ArcticThank you TecnoBrat.
20:23.08ArcticC:\Program Files\World of Warcraft\Interface\AddOns\ag_UnitFrames\ag_UnitFrames
20:23.15TecnoBratthere you go
20:23.36CIA-2203xuerian * r37258 10LatencyAlert/ (. LatencyAlert.lua LatencyAlert.toc lag.svg lag.tga libs/): LatencyAlert: Initial commit. Alerts of average latency over Lata.db.profile.threshold. Left-click: Dismiss. Left-drag: Move. Lata.db.profile.splash = false to disable splash.
20:25.04aen`especially filtering
20:25.44CIA-2203funkydude * r37259 10Violation/ (. Violation.lua): Violation: add printing to officer
20:25.49Silviu-Gagorian how ? ;)
20:26.49Fisker-O_o
20:26.54Fisker-only 3 bosses left for nihilum
20:27.09sbuwhere? hyjal?
20:27.10ArcticDo you know where http://www.wowace.com/wiki/Ag_UnitFrames keeps its settings?
20:27.14Matrix110no
20:27.15Matrix110BT
20:27.22sbuoh
20:27.23Matrix110they didnt do Hyjal besides 1st boss
20:27.25ArcticI had it earlier but it was in an addon pack from a random person, so I didn't trust it.
20:27.29Matrix110as its a "old" dungeon
20:27.40Matrix110and they did all fights on ptr
20:27.41ArcticI deleted it and it somehow kept my settings...
20:27.42Matrix110already
20:27.52Matrix110even got strat hints from GMs
20:28.13Matrix110so some fights are quite known to them already:P
20:29.01CIA-2203xuerian * r37260 10LatencyAlert/ (. libs/): LatencyAlert: Added externals. Set logtemplate.
20:30.05CIA-2203gagorian * r37261 10Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0/ClassModules/Druid.lua: Threat-1.0: - Druid Module: Added Faerie Fire ranks 5-6
20:30.37yacoobhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oMs6oWDoQrY ahahaha :D
20:30.50yacoobwatch only and ONLY if you've seen original Tunak Tunak Tan video :)
20:31.08XuerianIt's amazing how much they fit :p
20:31.09aen`anyone know if there is any stable version of sanitybags out atm?
20:31.26GagorianSilviu-: Well, the technique I used was: Have pet hit for n damage (example 100). Threat needed to get aggro in melee range is then n*1.1 (example 110).
20:31.44Diaohm
20:31.48Diaoparser-3.0 error
20:31.49Antiar1afternoon, folks
20:32.05aen`afternoon sir
20:32.07Diaohttp://ace.pastey.net/42267 - parser 3.0
20:32.09aen`just the man i want to see ;)
20:32.10Diaohello antiarc
20:32.19GagorianCast ability which threat you want to determine, then melee with unarmed for 1 damage (hooray for caster fists), when you get aggro then calc 110 - melee damage = threat of ability
20:32.22yacoobXuerian, this one is *perfect* :)
20:32.41TecnoBratAntiarc, they have been multilating Threat and Omen! :P
20:32.41Xuerianyacoob: Which brings the question of if blizzard based the draeni dance on it or not :p
20:32.49AntiarcHooray! :D
20:33.00yacoobXuerian, but of course they did.
20:33.04AntiarcChecking svn blame now :)
20:33.04XuerianXD
20:33.10yacoobwhat would you make think otherwise?
20:33.22Silviu-Gagorian not so easy to hit it for 1 dmg in bear form :P
20:33.24Antiarcckknight wrote that one
20:33.54ckknightAntiarc: btw, Parser-3.0 has feature parity with Parser-1.1 now
20:33.58AntiarcWoot.
20:34.05ckknighthyperChipmunk: I saw that, it was actually what was needed
20:34.12hyperChipmunkoh good
20:34.17AntiarcI had ideas about how to do multi-targets while sitting in church today, so I'm implementing that now.
20:34.18CIA-2203daviesh * r37262 10AtlasLoot/Sets/sets.lua:
20:34.18CIA-22AtlasLoot:
20:34.18CIA-22-Fixed unauthorised edit
20:34.18IcerothAntiarc, did you see my bitching about sanity bags?
20:34.24GagorianSilviu-: Well, you need to rely on random numbers. Eventually you'll get it narrowed down
20:34.25AntiarcIceroth: No, can you recap for me?
20:34.28Icerothhttp://iceroth.net/wow/sanitybags.jpg
20:34.39Icerothfilters won't apply all the time
20:34.42Icerothand the bar goes nuts
20:34.53aen`antiarc: same is happening to me
20:34.54AntiarcHm. Okay. Thanks, I'll check it out.
20:35.00GagorianAntiarc: I did a few temporary fixes :>
20:35.04aen`multi filters wont apply
20:35.08AntiarcAlso, is there any kind of hash function available in wow lua?
20:35.15Antiarcaen`: May be a tokenizer problem. I'll check it out.
20:35.22Iceroththey apply the moment i change the filters
20:35.24GagorianAntiarc: I also finished the warlock module with loads of data
20:35.26Antiarc:D
20:35.32ckknightAntiarc: In AceComm-2.0, there's a good one
20:35.43Antiarcckknight: That was just where I was looking! Thanks!
20:35.51aen`and i think some item categories are not apply, such as tailoring or pt.Tailoring.Basic as some examples
20:35.57ckknightAntiarc: very fast, too
20:36.08yacoob...oh?
20:36.10Icerothcouldn't get my herbs to one bag
20:36.11yacoobTseric left blizz?
20:36.17ckknightyep, yacoob
20:36.26Diaoquite a while ago
20:36.26AntiarcNumericCheckSum()?
20:36.31ckknightyep.
20:36.33Chompers"-Fixed unauthorised edit"
20:36.34AntiarcDanke
20:36.34Chompershurr
20:36.41yacoob*ponders*
20:36.47yacoobwas there any hot scandal behind that?
20:36.48ckknightAntiarc: there's also the one that converts it to bytes. Not sure which you want
20:36.55ckknightyacoob: no, not really
20:36.57Diaockknight do i need to update parser-3.0 to fix this: http://ace.pastey.net/42267
20:37.06Diaojust updated a minute ago
20:37.24IcerothAntiarc, what if i have more than 1 filter that apply to one item, which one wins?
20:37.35CIA-2203ckknight * r37263 10Parser-3.0/Parser-3.0/Parser-3.0.lua: Parser-3.0 - commas are evil
20:37.37ckknightDiao: yes, you do
20:37.39ckknight:-P
20:37.48ckknightAntiarc: would you mind me upgrading Threat-1.0 to Parser-3.0?
20:37.50Diaook
20:37.51Diaolol
20:37.59Antiarcckknight: Go for it.
20:38.12Diaothanks :P
20:38.13AntiarcIceroth: Can you elaborate? If two bags match an item, the item appears in both bags.
20:38.33Icerothoh, well nvm me then :)
20:38.58Icerothi just thought that if i have filter:weapons and then name:terestrian strangestaff it would appear only 1 one bag but which one
20:40.48aen`item dragging to bags is also borked
20:41.38aen`is there a working previous version?
20:41.46Antiarcckknight: How do I use your table recycling?
20:41.59hyperChipmunkOmen-2.1\Omen.lua:37: Usage: UnitClass("unit")
20:42.07ckknightAntiarc: it's basically a malloc/dealloc scheme
20:42.16ckknightAntiarc: new/newHash/newSet all create tables
20:42.19Diaohm
20:42.20ckknightdel deletes a table
20:42.48ckknightit's one of the simplest and most efficient ways to do table recycling, that I've found
20:43.03jwwpuaAntiarc: did you get my message about Sanity2 problems?
20:43.11Antiarcjwwpua: No, but it has known issues :)
20:43.16ckknightAntiarc: new(...) makes a list, i.e. new('a', 'b') => { 'a', 'b' }
20:43.22AntiarcIt's on the to-do, but uh, I've been distrated this weekend :P
20:43.26Necrathexhow do i enable the range check on gruul?
20:43.31ckknightAntiarc: newHash(...) makes a dictionary, i.e. new('a', 'b') => { a = 'b' }
20:43.35Necrathex(bigwigs)
20:43.37hyperChipmunkfixitfixitfixitfixitfixitfixitfixit!
20:43.40Antiarcckknight: Awesome. Thanks.
20:43.42ckknightAntiarc: newSet(...) makes a set, i.e. new('a', 'b') => { a = true, b = true }
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20:43.56hyperChipmunkooh, that's handy
20:44.01YammYgirlcodingguys. Do I have to declare the constant for it be readed? It's a nil value. I added the file first in TOC. but still nil.
20:44.08jwwpuaArctic: yeah, i noticed :) I got the latest version along with the ItemCache. as far as I can tell, it works properly if you have only 1 filter checked. If you have more than 1, items don't show up.
20:44.27Matrix110this filtering of Sanitbags requires alot of work in the start:-
20:44.34hyperChipmunkYammYgirlcoding: everything is nil unless otherwise stated
20:44.38FrostByghteanyone know if Cartographer's problem with showing pvp objectives was fixed yet?
20:44.56YammYgirlcodinghow come everything is nill? I'm setting a value to the CONST file
20:45.06YammYgirlcodingvalue*
20:45.38jwwpuahas BattlegroundFU been fixed for 2.1? last time I used it a few days ago, the scoreboard was bugging out. Arena scoreboards wouldn't display at all, and BG scoreboards didn't have info in them.
20:45.44hyperChipmunkif you've set the value, make sure you're not trying to access it from a higher scope
20:45.48Diaohm
20:45.58FrostByghteBattegroundFu is working for me, but HonorFu was hosed still as of yesterday's update
20:46.10Diaoloooking at the paladin module in threat-1.0 why is it base healmod 1 and if it's damage 2 o_O
20:46.19jwwpuaFrostByghte: thanks i'll try it again
20:46.26FrostByghteupdating again today...that cartographer problem is killing me
20:46.29jwwpuawhat's the difference in Sanity2 and SanityBags?
20:46.41Diaowait nm
20:46.44hyperChipmunkone's 2x bigger!
20:46.55Diaoi forgot paladin heals are half threat
20:46.55Diaolol
20:47.10AntiarcSanity's a list/search view, Bags is a more traditional bags view that uses filters to determine bag contents
20:47.25AntiarcDiao: That's to accomodate Holy Shock
20:47.33Icerothdid i already mention i want sanity bank as well?
20:47.39AntiarcYes :P
20:47.44aen`Anti: is there a stable release of sanitybags?
20:47.45Icerothis it ready yet?
20:47.45AntiarcHoly Shock is classified as a heal, but in my callback, I want to double its threat to offset the halving
20:47.57Antiarcaen`: What's in SVN is what I have right now. There's lots to do yet.
20:48.00jwwpuaAntiarc: do they work well together? I've had sanity2 for a long time, and currently useing OneBag. will Sanitybags be a replacement for Onebag?
20:48.03Diaoah
20:48.06Antiarcjwwpua: Yes.
20:48.15Diaoso holy shock does full threat even if it's used to heal?
20:48.25AntiarcNo, if it's used to heal it gets set at half threat
20:48.29Diaooh
20:48.31aen`jww: Yes, and itll be much better
20:48.49AntiarcIf it's used to do damage, it's halved due to its classification as a heal, then doubled to bring it back to a 1.0 (times righteous fury) modifier
20:48.57jwwpuais the one on files.wowace.com working? (sanitybags)
20:49.01Antiarcsorta, yeah
20:49.11aen`jww: the filtering is sort of borked atm
20:49.11AntiarcDiao: It's kinda bass-ackwards, but Holy Shock is rather unique
20:49.23AntiarcThe filtering tokenizer has problems that are on my to-do list.
20:49.48Icerothoh btw, about Violation fubar plugin tooltip? why are some of the values not rounded on some people? like 543.324234254 dps
20:49.58Diaowell it makes sense :P
20:50.08jwwpuawho makes WindfuryFU?
20:50.22Diaoanother thing i noticed in the priest module
20:50.33vhaarrIceroth: That hasn't been fixed yet?
20:50.44Diaothey're named DiscSpellsEN, ShadowspellsEN, but HolySpellsEn
20:50.48Diaowonder why it's not consistent :P
20:50.54Icerothvhaarr, lemme check what revision i got
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20:52.06AntiarcDiao: Because I was tired when I wrote it :P
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20:52.15Diaohaha
20:52.29Icerothehm.. this brings my noobism to whole new level - but how do i do that :s
20:52.40Diaoalso druid catform should be .71 not .79 modifier i believe
20:52.42Diaocould be wrong
20:53.13aen`Anti: will paypal you $ and redbull to get sanity up and running :D
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20:54.27ChompersAntiarc: how's Omen coming along?
20:54.33Chompersnot run into any problems i hope
20:54.47jwwpuaSanityBags says 57/80 bag slots, but only 7 slots are empty. is it excluding a bag?
20:55.01AntiarcKeyring, perhaps.
20:55.05AntiarcThat bug may have come back.
20:55.06Matrix110SanityBags is nice but bla ill stay with ArkInventory aslong as it works somehow-.-
20:55.11AntiarcChompers: Trucking along. I had an epiphany regarding multiple targets today.
20:55.21Chompersoh aye?
20:56.00kergothwhy's the cart ZF map sideways?
20:56.08kenlyric|homeor ammo bag?
20:56.12jwwpuai'm pretty sure I have more than 7 slots free tho
20:56.16jwwpuanot including keyring
20:56.47FrostByghtewow the new Bongos2 you have to reset EVERYTHING to update
20:56.54FrostByghteholy hell
20:57.55AntiarcOh, I misunderstood.
20:58.03AntiarcNot sure what's going on. I'll check it out though :)
20:58.15kenlyric|homeFrostByghte: bongos has that issue quite a lot, i understand.
20:58.50FrostByghtebongos was really easy to setup and get going, it's simple and I like it but holy hell...I'm just going to stick with the original until it no longer functions I guess
20:58.56FrostByghtethen go with something else, this is ridicules
20:59.20FrostByghteat this point the simple setup starts to lose value now that I have to redo it all again :)
21:00.46Icerothvhaarr, if i'm reading this right, i have rev. 37225 and afaik there are no changes to the rounding in svn
21:00.54vhaarrIceroth: alright
21:01.11Matrix110SanitBags should be able to get setup as ArkInventory where you can do your own categories besides default things, would make the whole config alot easier^^
21:01.14FrostByghteBartender doesn't up and change configs all the time does it?
21:01.38vhaarrIt has a few times.
21:01.49aen`arkinventory sucks though
21:01.51FrostByghtewhere you have to reconfig your entire layout again?
21:01.54aen`b/c of the bag placement
21:02.26Necrathex'Yes, custom unit frames are freezing your WoW client.' - can anyone tell me how to fix this? :)
21:03.09sbudisable custom unit frames? :P
21:03.09CIA-2203ckknight * r37264 10Threat-1.0/ (9 files in 4 dirs): Threat-1.0 - replace Parser-1.1 with Parser-3.0, should make things easier to work with overall.
21:03.09ckknightNecrathex: bug Blizz
21:03.14Necrathexbut there are loads using it and not having their client freezing
21:03.24Necrathexhm :(
21:03.53NecrathexThreat is going to be the ktm replacement? :o
21:04.00Matrix110no
21:04.02ckknightno
21:04.04vhaarrckknight: that should be Threat-2.0
21:04.07Matrix110Omen is:P
21:04.09Matrix110i think
21:04.10ckknightvhaarr: lol, why?
21:04.15Funkeh`agreed vhaarr
21:04.25ckknightI spoke to Antiarc about it
21:04.48Funkeh`ckknight: because using you will have 90% of the wow community using 2 parsers
21:05.19ckknightokay
21:05.44AntiarcAs 3.0 gets updated to do 1.1's job better, more people will replace 1.1 with 3.0.
21:05.57AntiarcThe biggest issue previously was the lack of some features 1.1 had.
21:05.59vhaarrSCT, SimpleCombatLog, EavesDrop, they all use 1.1.
21:06.06vhaarrViolation uses 1.1 for this reason.
21:06.10ckknightactually 3.0 has feature parity with 1.1 now
21:06.20vhaarrAntiarc: Take a wild guess how many people use SCT and SimpleCombatLog.
21:06.22ckknightplus is more optimized in some areas due to the filtering system
21:06.51vhaarryou can argument all you want, fact is that as long as SimpleCombatLog and SCT uses 1.1, there's no room for 3.0.
21:07.03Matrix110but running 2x parser is kinda ineffective
21:07.14renchapckknight: rewrite SCT and SCL !
21:07.14vhaarrckknight: I've tried talking to Greyhoof.
21:07.23Chomperswhy wont he swap to 3.0 ?
21:07.31vhaarrbecause there's no real reason to do so
21:07.35vhaarrexcept cleaner API
21:07.36ckknightrenchap: I guess that's what might happen.
21:07.37Funkeh`indeed
21:07.38vhaarrwhich is nice
21:07.41vhaarrbut not adamant
21:07.52AntiarcWell, since you're running one or the other, and the parsers aren't memory-heavy, what's the problem?
21:07.55Funkeh`theres no point at all having 2 parsers in the ace community
21:07.59Chomperskeep 1.1 around for him but dont update it
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21:08.08vhaarrrophy takes care of 1.1
21:08.10ckknightwhat license is SCT under?
21:08.14Chomperseventually forcing him to update :D
21:08.14sbuis it that hard to switch from 1.1 to 3.0?
21:08.15Funkeh`Antiarc: you are processing everything twice
21:08.40AntiarcFunkeh`: Unless I misunderstand it pretty badly, you're only processing it once
21:08.49ckknightsbu: some of the mechanisms are different, but the concept is the same, the filtering system is the major bonus in 3.0
21:08.50Funkeh`with 2 parsers? how do you figure that?
21:08.57AntiarcOr rather, you process n times, where n is the number of mods listening to any given event.
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21:09.23vhaarrAntiarc: look, either Threat goes back to 1.1 or we'll have to create two implementations -- perhaps they could share the data, specifically, though
21:09.23Funkeh`it seems illogical imo
21:09.35vhaarrAntiarc: and just fork the parsing
21:09.47AntiarcAre you saying that each event is processed only once, no matter how many mods invoke the parser on that event?
21:09.48Fisker-Doesn't seem to be licensed ckknight
21:09.57TullerFrostByghte: the settings in bongos2 are not going to be reset for a long while.  I reset them for bongos2 because I switched profiling systems.  The reason there was a reset between the december and january versions was because I attempted another system for bars, and quickly returned to the old system after bugs  
21:09.59ckknightfuck it, I'll branch anyway
21:10.04hyperChipmunklol
21:10.17Chompersadd code to 3.0 so it supports programs that use 1.1? is that called legacy or something?
21:10.26ckknightChompers: that could be done.
21:10.30ckknightwait, no
21:10.31hyperChipmunkbackwards compatibility
21:10.39AntiarcIf 3 mods parse an event with parser-1.1 and 2 mods process it with parser-3.0, you're making 5 parsing calls total.
21:10.40ckknightit _could_ be done, but likely won't
21:10.47AntiarcIf 5 mods parse with parser-1.1, you're still making 5 parser calls
21:10.53ckknightAntiarc: actually it depends on the events registered.
21:10.55TullerFrostByghte: the fact that keybindings did not remain constant was an oversight on my part
21:10.55AntiarcThe only penalty is slightly more memory usage for having both libs loaded.
21:11.21Matrix110CPU usage in intensive fights:-(
21:11.22ckknightAntiarc: if the events don't overlap, that's correct, if they do, then they might only make 2-3 calls
21:11.28vhaarrAntiarc: And what does it provide you, running 3.0?
21:11.40Antiarcvhaarr: A cleaner API and a supported and growing codebase?
21:11.44vhaarrAntiarc: The answer is, cleaner API, which is, again, as I said, nice, but not crucial.
21:11.50vhaarrAntiarc: 1.1 is supported.
21:12.19ckknightand 3.0 isn't?
21:12.36vhaarr<Antiarc> vhaarr: A cleaner API and a supported and growing codebase?
21:12.39vhaarr<vhaarr> Antiarc: 1.1 is supported.
21:12.58AntiarcAs ckknight pointed out, 3.0 is also a bit more efficient due to filters, which is a huge plus, given the frequency of event parsing in a raid
21:12.59ckknightah.
21:13.06ckknightit's a _bit_
21:13.12ckknightnot any large degree
21:13.15ckknightthough every little bit helps
21:13.16AntiarcAdds up over time
21:13.19Chompersuse 3.0 anyway, the addons will have to swap over
21:13.34AntiarcI wonder if we could make it parser-agnostic?
21:13.40AntiarcSo it'll try one, then try the other if the first isn't found.
21:13.42vhaarrAntiarc: That efficiency is lost horribly when people run another mod that uses 1.1.
21:13.46AntiarcBest o' both worlds.
21:14.01vhaarrAnd chances are good that they do.
21:14.02Chompersphase 1.1 out over time perhaps?
21:14.09vhaarrChompers: what the fuck, who are you anyway
21:14.14vhaarrChompers: 1.1 is fine.
21:14.45ckknightI think the API of 1.1 is enough to warrant its eventual deprecation
21:14.54ckknightParserLib_SELF? wtf is that?
21:15.24vhaarryeah it's very messy
21:15.34vhaarrbut it works, and you can't ignore SCT and SimpleCombatLog
21:15.41vhaarrI've asked both if they want to move to 3.0, but
21:15.44vhaarrthere's no real reason to do so
21:15.48Matrix110work with rophy together to improve 1.1?
21:15.48vhaarrso, they don't want the workload
21:15.55vhaarrMatrix110: There's nothing to improve?
21:16.06Icerothhmh, i'm already runnign 1.1 and 3.0 it seems, pitbull and sorren's timers have 3.0
21:16.10Matrix110then "tidy it up" :P
21:16.29CIA-2203ckknight * r37265 10Parser-3.0/Parser-3.0/Parser-3.0.lua: Parser-3.0 - remove ambiguity check
21:16.29ckknightIceroth: and PitBull's not changing, I'll tell you that right now
21:16.38AntiarcThe actual usage of parser-1.1/3.0 is pretty limited. We can make it so it just takes the first one it finds if it's going to be this big a deal. The code's factored well enough to allow that.
21:16.50Icerothwitch hunt and SCL use 1.1
21:17.04AntiarcThat way, 1.1 is supported while progressing towards a 3.0-supported suite.
21:17.16vhaarrhey, SCT is a piece of shit anyway
21:17.19vhaarrit needs rewriting
21:17.43ckknighttrue
21:17.47ckknightvhaarr: that was my next project plan
21:17.50ckknightpost-PitBull
21:17.54ckknightcomplete rewrite
21:17.57CIA-2203tsigo * r37266 10Cutup/ (6 files in 4 dirs):
21:17.57CIA-22Cutup:
21:17.57CIA-22- New module 'Julienne', a Slice and Dice timer.
21:17.57CIA-22- Added Babble-Spell for Julienne and LightFingers.
21:18.05ckknightframework-style et all, everything modular
21:18.23vhaarrckknight: You know, with parser, writing a SCT mod is done in 3 hours.
21:18.30ckknightyep.
21:18.35CIA-2203athou * r37267 10Taggle/localization.lua:
21:18.35CIA-22Taggle:
21:18.35CIA-22- frFR typo
21:18.36ckknightI'll get to it in a little while
21:18.46vhaarrckknight: The ideal thing would be if you got Greyhoof in and called it SCT 3.0
21:18.53vhaarrthat way, you get a lot of userbase for free
21:19.10vhaarrand then we can bitchslap rophy
21:19.15vhaarrand tidy up SimpleCombatLog
21:19.19vhaarr(that code is horrid, imo)
21:19.25vhaarrand 1.1 is gone
21:19.28vhaarrbut until then
21:19.36vhaarrno fucking way I'm OK with a 3.0-based Threat 1.0
21:19.47Matrix110prat eats my itemlinks:-(
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21:21.13Funkeh`so now we have 2 parsers in violation? :P
21:21.18vhaarrFunkeh`: no
21:21.28vhaarrFunkeh`: Antiarc is making Threat-1.0 parser-agnostic
21:21.38Funkeh`cool
21:22.32AntiarcArgh
21:22.38AntiarcI've been hijacked my my arena team
21:22.43Antiarcby my*
21:22.52sbulol?
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21:23.28AntiarcEarth shield + rogue + arena = OP
21:23.37AntiarcPeople think "oh, squishy target"
21:23.42AntiarcThen I'm all "haha, heal me suckers"
21:23.58nevcairielSCT is crap anyway, MSBT ftw .. and i dont think i would change :P
21:25.00Matrix110SCT is nice and MSBT is nice
21:25.02CIA-2203ckknight 07ckknight * r37268 10SimpleCombatLog/: .SimpleCombatLog - branching for Parser-3.0 branch
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21:25.27Matrix110tried MSBT but i couldnt customize it to my needs
21:25.31Matrix110so i went back to SCT
21:25.40Matrix110but i like the features MSBT has aswell
21:25.46aen`SCT reminds me of like, cosmos
21:25.53Matrix110the dot summarizing is nice
21:26.05Matrix110not really...
21:26.26Matrix110cosmos was just a bunch of mods packed together growing to like 60MB of memory...
21:26.49Cheadscant customize sct to my needs, so msbt it is =)
21:26.50aen`point is: they both are shitty
21:27.04Matrix110why is SCT shitty?
21:28.02Sarozvhaarr, print is broken, only sends to /say, never to raid or whatever
21:28.03vhaarrSaroz: yeah I know, I'll get on it soon
21:28.03Sarozvhaarr, cool
21:28.28ChompersSCT isnt bad at all, its just no frills
21:29.19Gnarfozsct is no frills? under what rock have you been hiding oO
21:29.54Chompersi guess a deep dark one :/
21:29.59Icerothis there a way to see how many ppl are using Violation in my raid? something similar to the damage meters sync spam
21:30.17vhaarrIceroth: yeah there's a internal table, but there's no UI for it yet
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21:30.48vhaarrIceroth: but you can use SpyGnome to see them all
21:30.59dodgizzlawtf is SpyGnome anyway.. tried it out ages ago and did not seem to do anything useful :o
21:31.15Iceroththe toc description sure ain't helpfull :p
21:31.29dodgizzlayou could say that about a lot of ace addons :D
21:31.43dodgizzlasomehow "finding an ace addon to do XY" is a minigame :o
21:31.49art3mis<PROTECTED>
21:31.51vhaarr:D
21:31.56art3misgo watch that and be amazed
21:31.56Stephmwdodgizzla: creative naming :)
21:32.13dodgizzlaIt's like minesweeper
21:32.22dodgizzla"Duh, not the right addon. WoW just blew up"
21:32.23Gnarfoz~seen trh
21:32.25purltrh <n=hmmm@e179053052.adsl.alicedsl.de> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 4d 5h 22m 1s ago, saying: 'binary isn't necessarely a executable program, could also be anything that isn't source or text-based :)'.
21:32.30Gnarfozbrr
21:32.36Gnarfozneed him, ckk broke VanasKoS :\
21:33.38ckknighthow's it broken?
21:33.41ckknightI might be able to fix it
21:34.17Sarozwho's maintaining cycycled?
21:34.44Gnarfozckknight: it needed the "notification" thing you removed from parser earlier ^^
21:34.50Gnarfozor rather, it used it
21:34.53ckknightokay
21:34.57ckknightlemme check it out
21:35.32Gnarfozckknight: VanasKoS-3.0-36330\\modules\\PvPDataGatherer.lua:207: Parser-3.0: Bad argument #2 to `RegisterParserEvent'
21:35.54ckknightk, on it
21:37.17CIA-2203ckknight * r37269 10VanasKoS/modules/PvPDataGatherer.lua: VanasKoS - update to new Parser-3.0 event types
21:37.21ckknightsimple enough.
21:37.36CIA-2203Tristan * r37270 10ShammySpy/ShammySpy.lua:
21:37.36CIA-22ShammySpy:
21:37.36CIA-22- Forgot to disable something for non shamans
21:38.26Gnarfozckknight: /bow
21:38.54dodgizzlaAntiarc: I don't know if this has been reported already, but... Sanity2 does not show the correct amount of items in the tooltip, e.g. if I have 10 super mana potions in my bag and 10 in the bank it will only show that I have 5 in my bag when mouse-overing a bag mana potion and 5 in my bank when mouse-overing a bank mana potion
21:39.24AntiarcYup. :)
21:39.27AntiarcIt's on the to-do
21:39.38dodgizzla<3
21:39.44Adirelleanyone can confirm funkeh's report ? violation:1669 table index is nil, whenever i join raid, someone else joins raids, or someone moves group in a raid
21:39.55dodgizzlaSanity is too good
21:41.34dodgizzlaI made a similar addon about a year ago for CharactersViewer so I really love it :D
21:41.46AntiarcI wrote it when I started managing my guild's bank
21:41.52AntiarcAnd people sent me and requested a billion things
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21:41.57AntiarcAnd I was goinc crazy trying to find things :D
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21:42.51Icerothoh btw, how does the search work? i mean, can i search from all bags or does it limit the search to the same (filtered) bag?
21:42.59DezzimalWould anyone here, possibly Antiarc, know of a way to trawl the armory in search of level 70 tauren female warriors with exalted sporeggar?
21:43.02Icerothon sanity bags, that is
21:43.10sbuAntiarc: priest isnt finished yet, right?
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21:43.42Dezzimalstrange request yes :D
21:43.47AntiarcIceroth: Only in the filtered bag
21:43.52AntiarcDezzimal: Not easily
21:43.56dodgizzlaDezzimal: You're some kind of stalker? :D
21:44.01Icerothany way to override it or just use sanity2?
21:44.02Dezzimaldodgizzla: absolutely
21:44.02Antiarcsbu: It's mostly finished, needs tweaks
21:44.10AntiarcJust use sanity for full-inventory searching
21:44.21Dezzimalmain tank /gquit and vanished to another server
21:44.27Dezzimaland I'm a spiteful bastard
21:44.41dodgizzlaDezzimal: So.. search for his name :D
21:44.47Dezzimalhe name changed
21:44.49Gnarfoztransfers enable you to change it
21:44.50Gnarfoz-.-
21:44.55sbuAntiarc: hm yes, shows much higher threat amount than "the other mod":p
21:44.57dodgizzlaWell then.. you're screwed :D
21:45.08sbuAntiarc: tried to test if numbers are accurate ;o
21:45.16CodayusI dunno, exalted sporegar rep is pretty rare...
21:45.27Dezzimalnot entirely, given enough time I have enough information to manually check every guild he could have possibly joined
21:45.27Icerothoh right, another thing, someone complained about dropping stuff to bags from bank or something: got similar problems with that: is there any way to drop stuff to bag if there are no free slots visible (dropping over an item swaps it)
21:45.38Dezzimaland eventually come up with his name
21:46.36DezzimalI have enough criteria for a positive identification, just looking for a way to narrow it down some :(
21:47.03sbugoing to switch to sanitybags once it supports PT3 ;p
21:47.26dodgizzlaman the armory is some crazy ajax/dhtml crap
21:47.33sbubut threat is more important atm, so no hurry :p
21:48.00Dezzimalarmory took up a gig of my virtual memory for some reason
21:49.20tsigoAntiarc: Getting a Threat-related error in Violation about a second after I Cheap Shot something
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21:52.07AntiarcHooray for BSODs
21:52.29Icerothso, liek, what's the last line you got?)
21:52.40Diaohm
21:52.45Diaoin the priest module
21:53.08AntiarcI'm not sure. Ask any questions I didn't respond to again :D
21:53.19Iceroth"oh right, another thing, someone complained about dropping stuff to bags from bank or something: got similar problems with that: is there any way to drop stuff to bag if there are no free slots visible (dropping over an item swaps it)"
21:53.20Diaoi don't see a modifier for converting heals to 0.5 threat
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21:54.17dodgizzlackknight: I just got a bunch of "... are ambigious for locale enUS" errors from Parser-3.0
21:54.19AntiarcIceroth: No, not currently. Also on the todo.
21:54.35dodgizzlaAnd it told me to inform you :o
21:54.37ckknightdodgizzla: update
21:54.40Diaosame with druids etc
21:54.53Icerothkk, 2 more: could i please see my empty bag slots in the default bag? the filling rate bar just doesn't quite do it for me
21:55.02dodgizzlaAye captain!
21:55.26Icerothaaand.. "hide fubar plugin" option for sanity2 would be cool
21:55.50Norolashey there. does anyone know of an addon that prevents windows from closing when you bring up other ones (i.e. keeps profession window open when the AH window is up)? there was an addon called Lexan that did this, but 2.1 broke it?
21:56.20TheKarnAntiarc, you concentrating on Threat now?
21:56.21dodgizzlackknight: Errors are gone :o You gotta be psychic to know that! :>
21:57.37AntiarcTheKarn: For the moment, yes
21:57.43Gnarfoznah, he just knows his way around stuff he writes or fiddles around with, it seems :D
21:59.47Sarozvhaarr, does violation sync atm?
22:00.36dodgizzlaMh, on another note.. am I the only one that gets some errors when running Auctioneer and Postal together?
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22:01.11Stephmwstopped running auctioneer, it was guzzling too much memory :(
22:01.15AdirelleSaroz: it should, does it spam errors ?
22:01.17Gnarfoznone for me
22:01.21Saroznono, just asking
22:01.26dodgizzlaStephmw: True, but I only run it on my mule
22:01.28Sarozcause.. people are getting diffirent data
22:01.29Gnarfozand what did you replace Auctioneer with that has the same features? :)
22:01.44AdirelleSaroz: it sends sync data every 5 seconds
22:01.48Sarozok
22:02.04AdirelleI should add your *own* data
22:02.23Adirellee.g. only data for people with violation are synced
22:02.36Sarozyea
22:02.40Adirelleall others are local
22:02.53Sarozoh
22:02.54Sarozhrrm
22:02.55Sarozthat sucks
22:02.59Sarozkindda
22:03.38dodgizzlahm, ok. I just get the errors without postal too
22:03.41StephmwGnarfoz: some dodgy addon called MyBrain2.1
22:03.45TheKarnAntiarc, want me to check into the issues with Sanity2?
22:03.49dodgizzlalet's see if theres an update
22:03.51StephmwGnarfoz: not very reliable, tends to forget things
22:03.55GnarfozStephmw: doubt it ;-)
22:03.57TheKarnand add a "toggle FuBar" option :)
22:04.54Gnarfozcomplex analysis of market stuff? knowing median prices for shit you didn't even know existed until you /rolled a 100 on it in an instance? ^^
22:05.31StephmwGnarfoz: yup, that's called MyBestGuess 0.0.1
22:05.42Gnarfozheh
22:05.46Gnarfozearly alpha
22:05.50StephmwGnarfoz: and the occasional GetTheWifeToCheckAlla
22:06.00tsigoAntiarc: "ThreatClassModuleCore.lua:238: attempt to index local 'info' (a nil value)" every time I gain energy from Relentless Strikes or Combat Potency
22:06.03Gnarfozalla isn't reliable :\
22:06.05Adirellesaroz not really, that's a fair tradeoff between accuracy and bloatness
22:06.06AntiarcTheKarn: If you want to, please do
22:06.21Antiarctsigo: Seems like there's a problem with gains and parser-3.0. Looking into it.
22:06.23StephmwGnarfoz: nothing much seems to be, *shrug*
22:06.24TecnoBratYou really mean wowhead, right Stephmw?
22:06.31StephmwTecnoBrat: first, of course
22:06.38tsigoAntiarc: yep, thanks
22:06.48StephmwTecnoBrat: historical prices are useful though
22:07.39[FH]Birdemanican i make a request for quartz please? dummy boxes that show the location when you cahnge it
22:07.46dodgizzlaAh well whatever, updating Auctioneer fixed that particular bug, so just forget what I said some minutes ago :D
22:07.54Matrix110[FH]Birdemani they are in already Oo
22:07.56Stephmw[FH]Birdemani: iirc if you unlock the bar, it shows
22:08.04Matrix110if you uncheck "lock" they show
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22:08.09[FH]Birdemaniah
22:08.10[FH]Birdemanithanks
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22:13.24Arrowmasterhuh thats weird, the cvar for combatlog death range seems to still work but the others dont
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22:14.54Arrowmasteror atleast the non party non friendly ones arent, because im flying way above some hostile faction players killing stuff and im only seeing the death messages
22:15.30dodgizzlaYou're using SimpleCombatLog?
22:15.32PrimerAny update on cartographer and lack of PVP points?
22:15.52Arrowmasteryes i am using SCL
22:16.29FrostByghtePrimer: I haven't tried today's but yesterdays still had that issue
22:17.02dodgizzlaArrowmaster: I also see only death messages of mobs/players, but that might be because I did not specifically set it up to show events of other players than me and our MT :D
22:17.13PrimerI just ran WAU and it updated cartographer (it updated 4 times yesterday) but my kid's playing on his toon, so I can't test
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22:17.57Arrowmasterheh found another netherwing egg sitting in a cooking brazier
22:18.42GagorianAntiarc progress on picking up resists?
22:18.48FrostByghtePrimer: http://www.wowace.com/trac/ticket/825
22:19.01FrostByghteI guess no it has not been fixed
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22:19.53AntiarcGagorian: Not yet, on the to-look-at list. Hope to have it today.
22:20.18Gagoriankk
22:20.25PrimerFrostByghte: that's unfortunate, as I've been doing a lot of halaa PVP lately
22:20.27CIA-2203jerry * r37271 10Links/Links.lua: Links: Added support for recipe links.
22:20.42PrimerFrostByghte: you know you can still hover over the points and get the info, you just can't see the point
22:20.44FrostByghteya this is the only bug kicking my ass
22:20.45Primers
22:20.46FrostByghteya
22:20.53dodgizzlaAh while everybody is chatting nicely here, I might as well toss following into the chat..
22:20.57GagorianAntiarc: Also ideal would be to add the threat missed from applying stuff when entering combat, not at next spellcast like my temp fix :)
22:20.58FrostByghteI've been doing that, but when soemthing is in conflict still a pain
22:21.05FrostByghtealso in the BG's using SHIFT-M
22:21.08dodgizzlaIs anybody planing on updating Sprocket so it's usable again? :D
22:21.09FrostByghteto bring up the little battle map
22:21.35ZealotOnAStickdodgizzla: Sprocket won't be usable again.
22:21.40dodgizzlaNooooooes
22:21.51ZealotOnAStickwobin and . . . sole, I think?  were working on a sort of a replacement.
22:21.51dodgizzlaZealotOnAStick: You make little fairies cry :\
22:21.58ZealotOnAStickbut it's sort of stagnated in development.
22:22.08ZealotOnAStickSplut, it's called, and I'm disappointed to see it stalled.
22:22.31dodgizzlaI see
22:22.50dodgizzlaI really liked Sprocket, too bad it's not usable anymore and there's no real replacement
22:23.17dodgizzlaBut then again it was just a lot of eye candy and icing.. Everything I used it for is now done in some other way
22:23.47dodgizzlaIt freed up a lot of screen space and action buttons though :o
22:24.11sbumeh - that swstats log viwer is just uber...
22:24.47sbusorting + filtering options for each col (source, dst, type (gain, dmg, resist, ...), comment)
22:25.33TecnoBratyea ... its really nice
22:25.44TecnoBratI can actually find what killed a tank
22:26.44CIA-2203ckknight * r37272 10Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0/ThreatClassModuleCore.lua: Threat-1.0 - fix parseHeal and parseGain
22:27.08Kebinusanhttp://youtube.com/watch?v=066_q4DIeqk
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22:36.29Matrix110sbu unilog? or what do you mean?
22:37.20CIA-2203ominous * r37273 10Babble-2.2/Babble-Spell-2.2/Babble-Spell-2.2.lua: Babble-2.2: Spell added 3 buffs
22:37.39XuerianKebinusan: rofl.
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22:39.20dodgizzlaIs Hemlock still being maintained?
22:39.56Matrix110rofl lol
22:40.04Matrix110a big spider just came down infront of me
22:40.14dodgizzlaFrost Shock it!
22:40.24tsigododgizzla: Not sure it needs to be, it just works every patch, like magic!
22:40.52dodgizzlatsigo: Yeah, but everytime I log in with my Rogue it wants to rescan for poisons
22:40.57dodgizzlaIs that intended?
22:41.56tsigododgizzla: nope, works for me, but I've seen it do that after new patches. click No, open and close your poison window, then /hemlock scan and let it do its thing
22:44.56dodgizzlatsigo: Wicked, it really fixed it...
22:45.50sbuMatrix110: uhm, what /swl thing, yep, unilog could be the name ;p
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22:46.09Matrix110ye unilog that is
22:46.39sbupretty nice :)
22:48.01WixiAnyone know a working Necrosis style mod for locks now Acolyte has stopped?
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22:50.28kergothhttp://wow.tachyonsix.com/foxtrot.gif
22:50.38KirkburnCartographer isn't showing full zone info for me
22:50.56KirkburnZones aren't getting level ranges (but towns are)
22:51.16Kirkburn(*just* updated)
22:51.20Ominousfor those that may be intersted here is a comparison of FuBar_RogueTimerFU and ClassTimer when used side by side today: http://www.ominous.me.uk/gallery/main.php?g2_itemId=18
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22:52.24XuerianOminous: A full res shot might help reading it :p
22:52.30Ominousit should be
22:52.39Ominouspress the button above the picture
22:52.47XuerianAh, did, didn't work the first time >.<
22:53.04Ominous:/
22:53.23XuerianNice :p.
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22:53.30Xuerian.... What's the profiler mod? :D
22:53.43OminousExpo
22:54.03Sarozgief that
22:54.13Xueriangeif both, actually.
22:54.22Ominousgief what?
22:54.31Sarozthat profiler is nice
22:54.32XuerianWhatever Saroz was talking about :D
22:54.42Sarozbeen looking for something like that
22:54.46Sarozhehe Xuerian
22:55.05XuerianOminous: ClassTimer, eh? Examples for other than rogue?
22:55.31Ominouswhat do u mean?
22:55.40XuerianWell, Class implies it's not class specific, what sort of timers does it pop up for other classes?
22:55.45Ominousur
22:55.46Ominousm
22:55.50Ominousalot :P
22:56.11Ominousread the files in svn.wowace.com/wowace/trunk/ClassTimer/bars
22:56.18Xuerianthat would make sense >.>
22:56.55Ominoushttp://svn.wowace.com/wowace/trunk/ClassTimer/Bars/*
22:56.55Ominousexcept without the *
22:57.28Ominouscrap...
22:57.42Ominousjust realised im leading a raid on my laptop tomorrow /cry
22:58.59Xueriano.o
22:59.02XuerianRaid of what?
22:59.28Ominouskarazan
22:59.35Sarozwooow
22:59.37Ominousbut my laptop is unbelievably slow
22:59.44XuerianBet you're going to have fun 0.o
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22:59.52KirkburnA raid of crabs.
23:00.15Xuerianshh Kirkburn, that's where we really take them, but we tell them it's Kara!
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23:00.51Ominous:D
23:00.57Heriohappy face
23:01.54Adirellenight
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23:04.39Wobinhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PG1qCSJSA0c&mode=related&search=
23:06.19XuerianWobin: Scrubs ftw.
23:07.27WobinDear god, she can't be stopped...
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23:08.07Xuerian"Ohhh.... I am so very angry... I am going to find someone to kill just to prove her wrong...."
23:09.36kenlyric|homeany mods which provide a nice showing of missing buffs that you can click on to cast? like the buff watcher in XRS or like corkfu, but clickable.
23:09.52Kalman|XRS is clickable.
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23:10.21Kalman|Only out of combat, but the targeting lockdown means no mod can in combat.
23:11.19dodgizzlaBastard coated bastards with bastard filling!
23:12.42Norolasdoes anyone know of an addon that prevents windows from closing when you bring up other ones (i.e. keeps profession window open when the AH window is up)? there was an addon called Lexan that did this, but 2.1 broke it :(
23:13.04Punkie`Does anyone know which addon would cause TabletLib to take up 5% cpu when idle? :P
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23:13.41ThraePunkie`: Ask ckknight
23:13.44Punkie`ok
23:13.45OminousPunkie' if you have profilling on and looking at preformance fu then yes
23:13.50Punkie`oh :D
23:13.54Punkie`I did think of that :P
23:14.00Ominousas that display is tablet
23:14.02Punkie`But can I just blame Xuerian anyway?
23:14.07Ominoussure
23:14.11Ominous=P
23:14.14ThraeHeh, catch-22
23:14.18Xueriandammit.
23:14.22Punkie`oh Xuerian
23:14.24Punkie`damn
23:14.26Ominouswtf
23:14.27ThraeA good profiler should be able to profile itself :D
23:14.28Punkie`similar sounding names
23:14.36Xuerian>.>
23:14.39XuerianSheeeeuurre.
23:14.40Punkie`ho ho ho
23:15.13Punkie`the trout was loving it
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23:16.02Ominousnight all
23:16.49ravagernlHey guys
23:17.13ravagernlI have a problem, my battlefieldminimap went offscreen and i cant drag it back -.-
23:17.37AwaaDelte the addons setting in the WTF folder
23:18.00Punkie`I love you really Xuerian, you're awesome... even though you are an RP'er
23:18.26GagorianIn Por Ylem!
23:20.06Snarrrrwhy did onyx layout get removed from cycircled? now i have to download an extra addon that requires an addon that i only use because the extra addon used to be a part of it. why not just make the thing work on its own if you have to seperate the poor thing :-(
23:20.57ZealotOnAStickidea is to make it more modular.
23:20.59Punkie`I'll go with: because it's fugly
23:21.11Snarrrrnah it was the best of them all ! :p
23:21.22ZealotOnAStickI only ever use Litestep XLT or whatever anyway.
23:21.34Punkie`Litestep texture makes me puke
23:21.40Snarrrrthat's ugly :p
23:21.54ZealotOnAStickto each their own.
23:22.02Punkie`I use striped :D
23:22.38Snarrrrso are the other layouts gonna get separated too? :p
23:22.48WobinCorp Por!
23:23.35Punkie`ummm, Yra Sjem!
23:23.41ravagernlI use my own made statusbar texture :P
23:23.52Punkie`what is it?
23:23.53GagorianWobin: Kal Vas Flam!
23:24.07Punkie`Gagorian: Damn, I was close
23:24.47ravagernlhttp://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=6005.0
23:25.33ravagernlpunkie' I use the texture "Ruben" right now
23:26.20Punkie`That ruben could be cool
23:26.23Punkie`let me test it out
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23:29.02ravagernllol, thanks, thats my name
23:29.03Sedaiwhats the point of getting periodic table? whihc mods use it
23:29.24ravagernlehhh
23:30.12theoddone33pt3bar
23:30.55theoddone33it's like autobar but harder to configure and a little less intrusive
23:30.55theoddone33I like it better personally
23:31.56Punkie`ravagernl: looks alright but a bit too dark for me so ill stick with striped :)
23:32.05ravagernlhaha :P
23:32.15Punkie`striped = awesome
23:32.19ravagernltry melli then punkie'
23:32.40Sedaiis there a site that i can post my GUI up to and view others?
23:33.07Punkie`GUI of what?
23:33.17Punkie`or your wow UI?
23:34.06ckknightXuerian: I like RP realms.
23:34.23KinkxA lot of people in my guild is having problems logging into SSC with addons enabled, does anyone know which addon causes people to hang on the loading screen like this?
23:34.26Xuerianckknight: Yeah, I do too. I suck at pvp :P
23:34.38ckknightPvP is fun
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23:34.58CIA-2203sayclub * r37274 10Babble-2.2/Babble-Spell-2.2/Babble-Spell-2.2.lua:
23:34.58CIA-22Babble-2.2:
23:34.58CIA-22-Spell: Updated localization koKR
23:35.10Sedaiwow UI
23:35.37Sedaii used to go to discord a lot
23:36.34Punkie`Sedai: Not really, there's a thread on the wowace forums about it.. you could always post it here and we can post ours!
23:36.45Punkie`ravagernl: zomg that melli is NEON!
23:37.14Punkie`Striped still remains victorious!
23:37.26ravagernlnuhuh
23:39.39Punkie`ravagernl: jij bent een prutser!
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23:40.19TecnoBratIs Omen usable yet?
23:40.21ravagernlwtf
23:40.34TheronKirkburn you here?
23:40.35nevcairielits usable alright
23:40.39nevcairielhow accurate
23:40.41nevcairielis another thing :P
23:40.47AntiarcTecnoBrat: not yet.
23:40.47AntiarcSome things are broken ATM
23:40.50AntiarcAnd we're missing shaman/mage modules
23:40.56AntiarcAnd there are no NPC modules
23:41.01Antiarc(for knockback, wing buffet, etc)
23:41.01KirkburnTheron, you're allowed on the #wowwiki channel! :P
23:41.10nevcairieland my druid module is still very much a skeleton :P
23:41.21Punkie`ravagernl: what!
23:41.54ravagernlJij bent een oelewapper!
23:41.58ravagernltranslate that :
23:42.15Punkie`ik heb geen idee
23:42.41Punkie`i need to learn dutch :(
23:43.04ckknightnøgel
23:43.06ravagernlGa nou maar een addon schrijven :P
23:43.33ckknightI don't know dutch
23:44.01Punkie`I need to learn it
23:44.03ckknightI can sort of pick up what you're saying from my limited German, though
23:44.08ckknightwhy, Punkie`?
23:44.19Punkie`my girlfriend is dutch :(
23:44.40Punkie`and I think he said something like, but go and write an addon
23:44.57Punkie`schrijven is a cool word
23:45.43CIA-2203tsigo * r37275 10Cutup/modules/Julienne.lua: Cutup_Julienne: Fix talent scanning on first login; don't show text after buff expires.
23:45.56ravagernlyou're right
23:46.00Punkie`Every time I go to the netherlands they always make me try and say: Scheveningen :(
23:46.06Punkie`it's horrible!
23:46.06ravagernlschrijven is the dutch translation for to write
23:46.11CIA-2203totalpackage * r37276 10StellarUF/ (StellarUF.toc auratimers.lua targetcast.lua):
23:46.11CIA-22StellarUF:
23:46.11CIA-22- fixed anchor issues with Capping, /doh self
23:46.11CIA-22- casting alert will now show after you change targets and your new target is currently casting
23:46.13ravagernlhaha!
23:46.18ravagernlyou know why?
23:46.19theoddone33I'm not thrilled by daily quests
23:46.25Punkie`because it's horrible to pronounce? :P
23:46.34theoddone33just one way to make people play the game longer
23:46.38Necrathexachthonderdachtentachtig
23:46.39ravagernlno, because german people can't speak it
23:46.44ckknightravagernl: I figured that out, it's like the German Schrieben
23:46.56ravagernlvliegtuigwielventieldopjemonteur!
23:47.12Punkie`ravagernl: I heard something about it being a codeword in the war due to that :P
23:47.18ravagernlyes
23:47.27ravagernlexactly that
23:47.27Punkie`and I made out airplane in your jumble of words :P
23:48.04ravagernldunno how to translate ventiel dopje and monteur :P
23:48.22ravagernlwiel = wheel
23:48.33ravagernland you pronounce it the same :P
23:48.45Gnarfoz<ravagernl> no, because german people can't speak it <- I concur. And I'm german :p
23:49.10ckknightmeh, to hear proper German you have to go to Austria anyway
23:49.16ckknightGermans can't speak their own language
23:49.22Gnarfozyou got that wrong for sure.
23:49.37nevcairielaustria? comeone, their accent is terrible
23:49.41Gnarfoz!
23:50.22ravagernlgnarfoz: that's what i mean, I'm just bad at grammar
23:50.24nevcairielscientists claim that in the area where i live is the "clearest" german
23:50.26Punkie`nevcairiel: but Arnie is awesome
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23:50.52ravagernlsupahtollll
23:51.32Gnarfoznevcairiel: norddeutschland somewhere? :)
23:52.04nevcairielbetween hamburg and hannover ;)
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23:52.59nevcairielwell i study in hamburg, i would count myself to there :)
23:53.26Gnarfozheh
23:54.12sbuoh hm
23:54.13Gandharvai am from austria =)
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23:55.21sbuguess i am a pretty good example for germans who cant speak their language :p
23:55.37nevcairielheh
23:55.44nevcairielwhere are you from ? :p
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23:55.59sbuStuttgart :o
23:57.09sbuyou know... http://www.stuttgarter-nachrichten.de/media_fast/626/hochdeutsch.jpg
23:57.17Gandharva<--- born in Braunau (Hitlers birthplace -.-), now München
23:57.43nevcairiellol sbu
23:57.54Gnarfozheh sbu, that BaWue ad always makes me chuckle ;D
23:57.58Gnarfozso true :)
23:58.00rophyhey ckknight, I thought I talked to you about why the ParserLib_SELF already.
23:58.11rophyit's fine if you dont understand but please stop spreading bull shit
23:58.12ckknightI don't remember
23:58.20ckknightGlobals are bad.
23:58.23rophybecause it has be to a number, not a string.
23:58.32ckknightwhy's that?
23:58.36JoshBorkeckknight: why are globals bad?
23:58.41rophyI thought about parser.SELF or something, but figured you can do a local easily.
23:59.07ckknightrophy: it's mostly due to it being global, I understand the unit/name separation you do
23:59.20ckknightJoshBorke: possibility of overlap, for one, global namespace pollution is bad and slows down other global accesses
23:59.32dodgizzlaStuttgart > Hannover :P

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