| 00:01.06 | CIA-22 | 03zuno * r37618 10uabStatus_MissingBuffs/ (uabStatus_MissingBuffs.lua uabStatus_MissingBuffs.toc): |
| 00:01.06 | CIA-22 | uabStatus_MissingBuffs: |
| 00:01.06 | CIA-22 | - Updated to return cooldowns, and support dynamic buff definition |
| 00:02.01 | CIA-22 | 03zuno * r37619 10uabLayout_Pyramid/uabLayout_Pyramid.toc: |
| 00:02.01 | CIA-22 | uabLayout_Pyramid: |
| 00:02.01 | CIA-22 | - Updated for 2.1 version change |
| 00:02.22 | CIA-22 | 03zuno * r37620 10uab_PitBullFrames/uab_PitBullFrames.toc: |
| 00:02.22 | CIA-22 | uab_PitBullFrames: |
| 00:02.22 | CIA-22 | - Updated for 2.1 version change |
| 00:02.42 | CIA-22 | 03zuno * r37621 10uab_PerlClassicFrames/uab_PerlClassicFrames.toc: |
| 00:02.42 | CIA-22 | uab_PerlClassicFrames: |
| 00:02.42 | CIA-22 | - Updated for 2.1 version change |
| 00:03.03 | CIA-22 | 03zuno * r37622 10uab_oRA2Frames/uab_oRA2Frames.toc: |
| 00:03.03 | CIA-22 | uab_oRA2Frames: |
| 00:03.03 | CIA-22 | - Updated for 2.1 version change |
| 00:03.25 | CIA-22 | 03zuno * r37623 10uab_IceHUD/uab_IceHUD.toc: |
| 00:03.25 | CIA-22 | uab_IceHUD: |
| 00:03.25 | CIA-22 | - Updated for 2.1 version change |
| 00:03.44 | CIA-22 | 03zuno * r37624 10uab_CTRAFrames/uab_CTRAFrames.toc: |
| 00:03.45 | CIA-22 | uab_CTRAFrames: |
| 00:03.45 | CIA-22 | - Updated for 2.1 version change |
| 00:04.21 | CIA-22 | 03zuno * r37625 10UnitActionBars/ (. UnitActionBars.toc): |
| 00:04.21 | CIA-22 | UnitActionBars: |
| 00:04.21 | CIA-22 | - Property changes and revision update |
| 00:04.50 | Killmore | First Karazhan for Omen :P |
| 00:07.53 | CIA-22 | 03zuno * r37626 10uabStatus_UnitClass/ (. uabStatus_UnitClass.lua uabStatus_UnitClass.toc): |
| 00:07.53 | CIA-22 | uabStatus_UnitClass: initial commit |
| 00:07.53 | CIA-22 | - UnitActionBars status plug-in that enables visual effects based on unit class, or class grouping |
| 00:10.49 | CIA-22 | 03zuno * r37627 10uabStatus_UnitClass/: |
| 00:10.49 | CIA-22 | uabStatus_UnitClass: |
| 00:10.49 | CIA-22 | - Property changes |
| 00:14.17 | Nyri | estiminates Threat-1.0 only the own threat? |
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| 00:21.47 | snurre | hm.. pitbull and tinytip really arent working well together on my alt o.O |
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| 00:24.21 | dodgizzla | [FH]Birdemani: Yeah, you need TagCompiler now |
| 00:24.34 | hyperChipmunk | wow crashes everytime my pet dies >8\ |
| 00:25.22 | rjp | antiarc / Antiarc|Work if I make any changes to the armory stuff worth submitting back, how should I go about doing it? |
| 00:28.35 | Antiarc | Hmm. Email them, I guess. cheald at gmail |
| 00:28.44 | Antiarc | My SVN is password-protected for writes |
| 00:31.43 | Chompers | armory stuff? |
| 00:35.14 | snurre | http://img53.imageshack.us/img53/4479/wowscrnshot053007021719rd3.jpg *cries* |
| 00:35.32 | CIA-22 | 03jaslaughter * r37628 10JasonQuest/ (10 files in 2 dirs): |
| 00:35.32 | CIA-22 | JasonQuest: |
| 00:35.32 | CIA-22 | - Initial full commit |
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| 00:37.11 | LePeR|Jaunia | ouch |
| 00:40.26 | BankZZ | Is there an addon that adds more bar textures? |
| 00:41.08 | Kebinusan | SharedMedia |
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| 00:41.40 | BankZZ | SharedMedia adds textures? |
| 00:42.02 | LePeR|Jaunia | yep |
| 00:42.06 | Kebinusan | yes |
| 00:42.15 | LePeR|Jaunia | textures.. sounds... fonts |
| 00:43.03 | NightHawkTheSane | borders too |
| 00:43.12 | vodrin | adds media |
| 00:43.16 | Keias | All my textures are in Surfaces |
| 00:43.18 | Thorgard^2 | snurre, que? |
| 00:43.59 | snurre | every time i mouseover a pitbull frame on my alt, the tooltip looks like that |
| 00:44.09 | Thorgard^2 | Oh. |
| 00:44.17 | Thorgard^2 | Nuts. |
| 00:44.21 | LePeR|Jaunia | might be another addon that modifies the tooltip that is doing it |
| 00:44.41 | snurre | im using the exact same addon as my main, and there are no problems there |
| 00:44.45 | snurre | addons* |
| 00:44.54 | snurre | only tinytip for tooltip stuff |
| 00:45.09 | todd | did you try copying the settings? |
| 00:45.11 | Chompers | whats the bag mod? |
| 00:45.11 | Thrae | Disable TinyTip if you're using it. |
| 00:45.33 | todd | bag mod looks like baggins |
| 00:45.43 | Thrae | You can live without TinyTip, it sucks anyway. |
| 00:45.57 | todd | :O |
| 00:45.59 | Chompers | maybe its time to upgrade from arkinventory |
| 00:46.06 | todd | I use tinytip to change the tooltip location |
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| 00:46.34 | Thorgard^2 | Thrae, insanity. ;P Got a tooltip replacement mod you'd recommend other than TinyTip? |
| 00:46.57 | Fin | not found any decent alternative unfortunately |
| 00:47.14 | Fin | TT's pretty good, but I wish there was one that worked with all tooltips |
| 00:47.16 | Keias | I use tinytip and Pitbull fine on all my characters :/ |
| 00:47.20 | LePeR|Jaunia | same |
| 00:47.23 | Thorgard^2 | Same. |
| 00:47.24 | todd | same |
| 00:47.35 | Keias | You sure it's not another addon conflicting? |
| 00:47.36 | hyperChipmunk | SAME |
| 00:47.45 | Keias | hyperChipmunk, you did that just to fit in! |
| 00:47.55 | snurre | its not conflicting on any other of my bankalts or my main, so |
| 00:47.57 | Fin | some of the addons I have seem to create tooltips that don't listen to TT |
| 00:47.59 | hyperChipmunk | true...but it's also true |
| 00:48.00 | snurre | just this char |
| 00:48.14 | Thrae | I was being funny ;) PitBull could be causing it |
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| 00:48.20 | Fin | Bagnon, Infinibar (I think? might be DrDamage, seemed to do something after installing) |
| 00:49.32 | Thrae | TinyTip only affects GameTooltip |
| 00:50.12 | Fin | is there a way for an addon to be able to position any / all tooltips? |
| 00:52.08 | Gagorian | Yes |
| 00:52.20 | snurre | http://img53.imageshack.us/img53/9200/wowscrnshot053007024840dy4.jpg < works fine on that char |
| 00:53.01 | LePeR|Jaunia | maybe a different profile is set for it |
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| 00:53.35 | snurre | the other one has fresh settings, which makes it so weird.. wonder what makes it go into a loop |
| 00:53.41 | LePeR|Jaunia | or try deleting the SV.. see if anything changes |
| 00:53.50 | LePeR|Jaunia | for tt that is |
| 00:54.04 | snurre | nah, not gonna bother |
| 00:54.10 | snurre | im not playing it anyway :p |
| 00:54.24 | snurre | pretty much quit wow, was just logging him in to mess about |
| 00:54.44 | CIA-22 | 03bolagio * r37629 10WhoFavorites/: |
| 00:54.44 | CIA-22 | WhoFavorites: Initial commit |
| 00:54.44 | CIA-22 | - Description - Saves who searches in a favorites list. |
| 00:54.44 | CIA-22 | - Credits - Based on Who Favorites by Rizzle of Twisting Nether |
| 00:55.46 | Thrae | Fin: No, not really. TinyTip has an undocumented feature to control other tooltips for the purposes of anchoring in TinyTipExtras.lua (need to hard code), but you need the Frame name. |
| 00:55.54 | Gagorian | I have about 30 local variables in a function I would need to pass around efficiently (only a few will be modified by the function but I want it to be general) and then the variables will be modified on basis of the returns. Any ideas how to do this? (table I guess, but anything else?) |
| 00:57.00 | Fin | Thrae: thanks for that! I'll go have a poke |
| 00:57.23 | Fin | well |
| 00:58.01 | Fin | Lua has a thing like serialize(), can't remember what it is exactly - but it depends where you want to pass them around? |
| 00:58.04 | Fin | I think |
| 00:58.55 | Fin | oh |
| 00:59.09 | Fin | it's string.dump() that I was thinking of, and it wasn't quite what I said |
| 00:59.18 | Fin | s/wa/i/ |
| 00:59.24 | Fin | errr |
| 00:59.27 | Fin | whatever |
| 00:59.42 | Fin | hey look! baby wolf! |
| 01:00.40 | Gagorian | Well, I want to pass every variable in that function to a custom function (a class module) which modifies maybe one or two of the variables, and returns them (modifying them accordingly) in the main function. |
| 01:01.02 | BankZ | Is there something like HealBot written in ACE2? |
| 01:01.15 | Fin | describe HealBot |
| 01:01.48 | BankZ | health bars, you click on to buff, decurse and ehal |
| 01:01.52 | BankZ | *heal |
| 01:02.09 | BankZ | also shows incoming heals |
| 01:04.03 | RLD_osx | wish healer buttons were done in Ace2 |
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| 01:08.45 | BankZ | so theres nothing? |
| 01:09.54 | Hjalte | bankZ, do you mean some sort of click-healing? Where you assign heals to mousebuttons? |
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| 01:11.10 | BankZZ | thats part of it |
| 01:12.00 | Fin | click healing / casting: Clique, Click2Cast, MyBindings2 |
| 01:12.49 | Fin | unit frame buttons: eXtreme Unit Buttons, UnitActionBars, |
| 01:14.56 | BankZZ | Is Clique an ace2 mod? |
| 01:15.05 | cladhaire | no, why does it need to be an Ace2 mod? |
| 01:16.09 | BankZZ | doesnt have to just like it cuz of updater :/ |
| 01:16.19 | cladhaire | well, Clique was last updated three weeks ago |
| 01:16.24 | cladhaire | and doesn't really need updating |
| 01:16.24 | cladhaire | *shrug* |
| 01:17.12 | Chompers | thats a poor excuse for making an addon ace, dont you think BankZ? |
| 01:17.32 | cladhaire | Chompers: I think that's a rhetorical question =) |
| 01:17.42 | Chompers | ;) |
| 01:17.54 | BankZZ | Is there a way to have CBRipoff show the spell rank? |
| 01:17.58 | cladhaire | Clique was aced, but that stopped quite some time ago |
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| 01:19.06 | CIA-22 | 03nymbia * r37630 10ArenaPointer/ArenaPointer.lua: |
| 01:19.06 | CIA-22 | ArenaPointer: |
| 01:19.06 | CIA-22 | - Update for nerfed arena point formula. |
| 01:19.19 | BankZZ | Is Clique better than Click2Cast? |
| 01:19.29 | cladhaire | that's a relatively loaded question.. it depends on what you want/need |
| 01:19.35 | CIA-22 | 03nymbia * r37631 10GloryLib/Glory-2.0/Glory-2.0.lua: |
| 01:19.35 | CIA-22 | .Glory-2.0: |
| 01:19.35 | CIA-22 | - Update for nerfed arena point formula. |
| 01:19.39 | cladhaire | and i'll let someone else field it, since i'm biased =) |
| 01:20.15 | Funkeh` | i don't use either, click casting is for n00bs |
| 01:20.22 | cladhaire | Funkeh`: lrn2hael |
| 01:20.27 | Thorgard^2 | BankZZ, Clique would probably be easier to set up for you. |
| 01:20.31 | Funkeh` | i face melt kk |
| 01:20.42 | cladhaire | Funkeh`: I click-cast mind control and shackle :P |
| 01:21.02 | Funkeh` | i have button 1, 2 and 3, thats all i need! |
| 01:21.11 | cladhaire | lol |
| 01:21.15 | cladhaire | i never click cast on my priest |
| 01:21.19 | cladhaire | too busy nuking |
| 01:21.20 | [FH]Birdemani | request: please added bottled nethergon vapor/energy to autobar please |
| 01:21.47 | Funkeh` | :p |
| 01:22.03 | Funkeh` | [FH]Birdemani: post it ont he forum |
| 01:22.27 | Funkeh` | in the relative autobar thread |
| 01:22.30 | [FH]Birdemani | j |
| 01:22.34 | [FH]Birdemani | h |
| 01:22.36 | [FH]Birdemani | ugh |
| 01:22.40 | [FH]Birdemani | k |
| 01:22.43 | Thorgard^2 | Hmm, ShammySpy's nice. |
| 01:22.48 | Funkeh` | >.> |
| 01:23.54 | Jagobah | nerfed formula :( |
| 01:24.04 | Funkeh` | i dumped sct and sctd for fct |
| 01:24.15 | Funkeh` | the damn thing is bugged for VE |
| 01:24.20 | Jagobah | jaslaughter is making addons again! |
| 01:24.21 | Funkeh` | shows heals even at full hp |
| 01:24.30 | Funkeh` | racist blizzard cunts |
| 01:25.12 | vodrin | fct? |
| 01:25.18 | Funkeh` | cladhaire: being a priest you should be bitching at sloueken about it! |
| 01:25.27 | Jagobah | <snurre> http://img53.imageshack.us/img53/4479/wowscrnshot053007021719rd3.jpg *cries* |
| 01:25.28 | cladhaire | lol |
| 01:25.29 | Jagobah | whose is that :o |
| 01:25.33 | cladhaire | about what? |
| 01:25.45 | Funkeh` | fct shows heals from ve even when you are full hp |
| 01:25.48 | Funkeh` | really spammy |
| 01:25.50 | cladhaire | yeah |
| 01:25.51 | cladhaire | i like it |
| 01:25.54 | cladhaire | so i know when its up/down |
| 01:26.10 | Gagorian | nymbia: *poke* |
| 01:26.12 | Funkeh` | ok bitch at him to get an on/off feature |
| 01:26.14 | Funkeh` | :P |
| 01:26.36 | cladhaire | do it over heads |
| 01:26.37 | Thorgard^2 | Funkeh`, fct? |
| 01:26.38 | cladhaire | instead of in fct |
| 01:26.57 | Funkeh` | it crowds the screen too much |
| 01:27.02 | Funkeh` | in tight situations |
| 01:27.09 | cladhaire | i lvoe it |
| 01:27.11 | cladhaire | its like aoe |
| 01:27.12 | Funkeh` | floating combat text |
| 01:27.13 | cladhaire | for healing =) |
| 01:27.20 | Funkeh` | blizzards version of sct |
| 01:27.27 | Funkeh` | yeah its nice for healing |
| 01:27.30 | nymbia | Gagorian: hey |
| 01:27.33 | Funkeh` | not really great for ve tbh |
| 01:28.01 | vodrin | i love msbt too much for dot throttling |
| 01:28.02 | CIA-22 | 03gagorian * r37632 10DrDamage/ (Data/Mage.lua DrDamage.lua): |
| 01:28.02 | CIA-22 | DrDamage: |
| 01:28.02 | CIA-22 | - Added Evocation (test) to actionbar test due to new modularization code |
| 01:28.02 | CIA-22 | - Cleaned up RawNumbers, more changes to come |
| 01:28.13 | vodrin | although Seed of Corruption 14k (9hits, 2 crit) |
| 01:28.22 | vodrin | is less fun than a screen full of numbers i guess |
| 01:28.33 | Funkeh` | cladhaire: any chance you cna ask him for some kind of throttle or HoT on/off feature? |
| 01:28.40 | Jagobah | is Omen the "target threat" mod or is that Threat-1.0 ? |
| 01:28.45 | cladhaire | not really, you could write an addon to do it tho |
| 01:28.50 | vodrin | threat1.0 is the library |
| 01:28.51 | cladhaire | he wouldn't NOT send events |
| 01:28.54 | vodrin | omen is the gui |
| 01:29.11 | Gagorian | nymbia: Got time to gief some advice? Can you check my latest commit lines 2293-2320. What do you think would be the best way to pass around that block of variables to other functions? |
| 01:29.13 | Jagobah | okay thanks |
| 01:29.37 | nymbia | Gagorian: remind me in a little bit, doing magtheridon at the moment |
| 01:29.37 | Gagorian | nymbia: I could then modularize functions to get rid of the long if else clauses |
| 01:30.05 | Antiarc | ckknight: Ping |
| 01:31.00 | Gagorian | nymbia: Will do |
| 01:31.33 | Gagorian | My courses at Uni ended so.. I have a few months time to optimize and script :> |
| 01:32.49 | rubik | Jagobah: what bag mod is that in that screenie? |
| 01:35.54 | Jagobah | I don't know! |
| 01:36.00 | Jagobah | I wanted to ask snurre |
| 01:36.06 | Jagobah | and ask him more stuff |
| 01:37.57 | Arrowmaster | "You are now Exalted with Netherwing." |
| 01:38.15 | Funkeh` | now go out and get some sun on yor face |
| 01:38.42 | CIA-22 | 03bolagio * r37633 10WhoFavorites/ (4 files): |
| 01:38.42 | CIA-22 | WhoFavorites: Initial commit |
| 01:38.42 | CIA-22 | - Description - Saves who searches in a favorites list. |
| 01:38.42 | CIA-22 | - Credits - Based on Who Favorites by Rizzle of Twisting Nether |
| 01:38.46 | Arrowmaster | i actually mostly stayed out of that mine |
| 01:45.27 | Antiarc | Woo, hunter pet threat nearly solved. |
| 01:45.54 | Antiarc | Which should solve warlock pet problems at the same time |
| 01:46.22 | hyperChipmunk | and there was much rejoicing |
| 01:46.38 | Antiarc | I got pet casts working |
| 01:46.40 | Antiarc | So grown and such |
| 01:46.45 | Antiarc | growl, even |
| 01:47.01 | hyperChipmunk | 'rawr'? |
| 01:47.28 | Antiarc | rawr! |
| 01:49.09 | hyperChipmunk | now if wow would stop crashing every time my pet died |
| 01:49.19 | hyperChipmunk | then i'd be happy |
| 01:49.22 | Antiarc | heh |
| 01:54.47 | aen` | new sanitybags! |
| 01:54.51 | aen` | chop chop |
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| 02:04.24 | CIA-22 | 03antiarc * r37634 10Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0/ (3 files in 2 dirs): |
| 02:04.24 | CIA-22 | Threat-1.0: |
| 02:04.24 | CIA-22 | - Added support for pet cast detection (growl, etc). Pet support seems to be fully in now. |
| 02:04.24 | CIA-22 | - Moved party scan to AceEvent_FullyInitialized so we actually get it now. Fixed several problems. |
| 02:05.57 | CIA-22 | 03antiarc * r37635 10Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0/ (Threat-1.0.lua ThreatClassModuleCore.lua): Threat-1.0: We hates them, mean, nasty debug messageses. |
| 02:06.45 | hyperChipmunk | rawr |
| 02:09.19 | hyperChipmunk | i'm gonna need to do some testing for stuff like thunderstomp, screech, furious howl |
| 02:09.31 | hyperChipmunk | it's not in the spell data directly |
| 02:09.33 | Wobwork | lrn2stable =) |
| 02:10.03 | hyperChipmunk | my three tallstriders are stubborn |
| 02:10.13 | CIA-22 | 03bolagio * r37636 10WhoFavorites/: |
| 02:10.13 | CIA-22 | WhoFavorites: |
| 02:10.13 | CIA-22 | - Added externals |
| 02:12.28 | Antiarc | Just add the rank data in when you get it, and add the abilities to the spellNames table |
| 02:12.35 | Antiarc | It looks up the ranks of the spells in there |
| 02:12.38 | NightHawkTheSane | hyperChipmunk: three? o_0 |
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| 02:13.12 | hyperChipmunk | well |
| 02:13.13 | hyperChipmunk | two |
| 02:13.43 | hyperChipmunk | Lyriki, Lyriki in holiday colors, and his nephew, Lyttleriki |
| 02:14.07 | NightHawkTheSane | you need help, man. |
| 02:17.26 | Funkeh` | hes hyper |
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| 02:21.33 | CIA-22 | 03funkydude * r37637 10PeriodicTable-3.0/ (8 files in 7 dirs): PeriodicTable-3.0: Loot/Item update |
| 02:21.59 | CIA-22 | 03fin * r37638 10Prat/Prat_Modules/modules/AltNames.lua: Prat: AltNames: added option to import from Guild Greet database |
| 02:22.26 | Chompers | decided to level a paladin, very happy i chose a draeni |
| 02:22.37 | Chompers | their starting quests are fantastic |
| 02:22.40 | Funkeh` | moff |
| 02:22.42 | Funkeh` | later |
| 02:22.45 | CIA-22 | 03gagorian * r37639 10DrDamage/ (5 files in 2 dirs): |
| 02:22.45 | CIA-22 | DrDamage: |
| 02:22.45 | CIA-22 | - More Rawnumbers cleanup, more preparation for module based stuff |
| 02:22.50 | Chompers | + tabard at the end |
| 02:22.59 | Gagorian | nymbia: Done? |
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| 02:37.53 | hyperChipmunk | : Threat-1.0\Threat-1.0\ThreatClassModuleCore.lua:565: attempt to index local 'self' (a number value) |
| 02:38.34 | CIA-22 | 03Octane666 * r37640 10SpamMeNot/ (. Locale-enUS.lua Main.lua SpamMeNot.toc): |
| 02:38.34 | CIA-22 | SpamMeNot: |
| 02:38.34 | CIA-22 | - Automatically refuses group invites from strangers or people below the level block limit. |
| 02:38.34 | CIA-22 | - New who lookup system |
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| 02:39.59 | Gagorian | hyperChipmunk: That's a bit weird |
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| 02:40.05 | hyperChipmunk | well, so are you |
| 02:40.12 | Chompers | burn. |
| 02:40.21 | hyperChipmunk | it errored there 17 timez |
| 02:41.10 | Chompers | my servers being restarted at last |
| 02:41.47 | Chompers | only took them 5 hours to realise something was wrong, what with every mob jumping up and down 10 feet |
| 02:42.11 | ckknight | hey all, back from work |
| 02:42.33 | Gagorian | local self = this.self.. uh. |
| 02:42.34 | ckknight | Antiarc: pong |
| 02:42.48 | Chompers | ckknight, does pitbull predict other players heals on their intended target? |
| 02:42.54 | ckknight | no |
| 02:42.56 | Chompers | or is that just 'locally' |
| 02:43.04 | ckknight | just the player's |
| 02:43.07 | Gagorian | [01:25:17] <Gagorian> ckknight: Could we get an event triggered on AceDB ResetDB specifically telling it was succesful? |
| 02:43.15 | ckknight | meh |
| 02:43.18 | ckknight | maybe |
| 02:43.22 | ckknight | write it down somewhere |
| 02:43.36 | ckknight | actually |
| 02:43.38 | ckknight | you're a big boy |
| 02:43.40 | ckknight | make a patch |
| 02:43.44 | ckknight | shouldn't be hard. |
| 02:44.00 | Gagorian | Indeed |
| 02:44.21 | Gagorian | What naming would be appropriate and what args? |
| 02:44.41 | ckknight | does AceDB fire off any other events? |
| 02:44.49 | Antiarc | ckknight: Nevermind, solved it :)( |
| 02:44.49 | Gagorian | yes |
| 02:45.01 | ckknight | Gagorian: just copy the style |
| 02:45.31 | CIA-22 | 03next96 * r37641 10BigWigs/SC/Vashj.lua: |
| 02:45.31 | CIA-22 | BigWigs: |
| 02:45.31 | CIA-22 | - Vashj.lua |
| 02:45.31 | CIA-22 | - Update locale koKR |
| 02:45.59 | Gagorian | ckknight: Hrmm, well not really, only of AceEvent:TriggerEvent("Ace2_AddonEnabled", self, first) sort |
| 02:46.08 | ckknight | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:46.23 | ckknight | okay... call it AceDB20_ResetDB |
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| 03:01.36 | Gagorian | crap, server maintenance |
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| 03:02.15 | ckknight | I'll serve your maintnance |
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| 03:03.47 | Gagorian | ckknight: http://ace.pastey.net/45095 |
| 03:03.55 | Gagorian | Well, that's what I got before servers went down |
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| 03:11.58 | Fin | wtf |
| 03:12.34 | Fin | ggilbert's having some issues |
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| 03:17.06 | Fin | weab: ping |
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| 03:18.08 | weab | pong |
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| 03:18.53 | Fin | mind if I check in a fix to Stand.lua for Automaton? |
| 03:19.11 | weab | feel free |
| 03:19.26 | Fin | thanks |
| 03:19.33 | weab | is there a new function for standing that isn't protected? |
| 03:19.40 | weab | i haven't looked into it |
| 03:19.43 | Fin | OK to update the .toc with an uncommented Stand.lua as well? |
| 03:19.55 | Fin | http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=2887.msg105794#msg105794 |
| 03:19.59 | Fin | it works |
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| 03:20.36 | weab | that's all that matters to me |
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| 03:22.48 | CIA-22 | 03fin * r37642 10Automaton/ (Automaton.toc modules/Stand.lua): Automaton: Stand.lua fix: StandOrSit() -> DoEmote('stand') (thanks Troox); uncommented Stand from .toc |
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| 03:27.18 | Diao | whoa |
| 03:27.22 | ulic | ggilbert's carpet is surely ruined by now |
| 03:27.23 | Diao | i just updated and aloft is all wonky |
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| 03:28.43 | Kebinusan | someone should banhammer ggilbert |
| 03:28.43 | Thorgard^2 | Diao, 'cause it had a bit of surgery. |
| 03:28.43 | Antiar1 | I'll ping him |
| 03:28.43 | Antiar1 | He's in my guild |
| 03:28.44 | Thorgard^2 | Diao, download the TagCompilar lib and you'll be good. |
| 03:28.44 | Diao | oh |
| 03:28.44 | Antiar1 | Nevermind, he's not online. |
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| 03:29.56 | Kebinusan | he's been flooding off for the past 30 mins it seems |
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| 03:31.10 | Antiar1 | Lemme see if I can get him on gtalk |
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| 03:31.58 | Antiarc | Pinged him. |
| 03:34.08 | ckknight | ggilbert: stop flooding |
| 03:34.11 | Fin | ulic: 5 points |
| 03:34.50 | Fin | could someone ban him from the channel just for 10 minutes, his client might give up rejoining if it thinks it's banned |
| 03:35.00 | Fin | or, he could just stop it |
| 03:37.34 | Gagorian | ckknight: Did you see the pastey? |
| 03:37.47 | Antiarc | His client is doing it |
| 03:37.49 | ckknight | Gagorian: yea, you implemented it in a crazy way |
| 03:37.51 | Antiarc | He's a guildie of mine |
| 03:38.01 | ckknight | Antiarc: trojan dealy? |
| 03:38.20 | Antiarc | No, there was a netsplit a bit ago and he's been flooding and re-entering automatically since. |
| 03:38.31 | Gagorian | ckknight: Well, just went through all cases were it reset it and according to that triggered the event. Could probably be done better |
| 03:39.39 | Fin | Antiarc: 'course it's his client, it's not like he's purposely sitting there rejoining the channel and flooding himself off deliberately :) |
| 03:39.58 | Fin | although hey maybe |
| 03:40.56 | Gagorian | Could just assume if it gets past 1018 it always sends event, just wanted to be sure it was actually reset but, well that's about the same. |
| 03:41.12 | CIA-22 | 03antiarc * r37643 10Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0/ (ClassModules/Warrior.lua Threat-1.0.lua): |
| 03:41.12 | CIA-22 | Threat-1.0: |
| 03:41.12 | CIA-22 | - Fixed Disarm callback |
| 03:41.12 | CIA-22 | - Added method to get combat time for you/pet. |
| 03:42.01 | Gagorian | [02:44:56] <Gagorian> Antiarc|Work: Some constant 20-60 threat is being added to the meter after clearing when leaving combat after each fight. What could be adding it? |
| 03:42.28 | Antiarc | Hm. |
| 03:42.34 | Antiarc | Gagorian: Perhaps a tick of global threat |
| 03:42.44 | Antiarc | I've seen it when Relentless procs on a killing blow |
| 03:42.59 | Antiarc | I'll check it out |
| 03:43.11 | Gagorian | Yar, the amount just didn't match any threat that should've come out |
| 03:43.28 | Gagorian | But the last heals from shadowmend etc come pretty late |
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| 03:44.33 | Gagorian | as in after mob has died according to combat log |
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| 03:48.23 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r37644 10Ace2/AceDB-2.0/AceDB-2.0.lua: .AceDB-2.0 - added event AceDB20_ResetDB, which is called when the DB is reset. provides arguments (addon, "dbname" [, "kind"]) |
| 03:51.19 | Gagorian | ckknight: Hrmm, yeah that's a bit better |
| 03:51.29 | ckknight | um |
| 03:51.43 | Gagorian | Better implementation than the boolean :p |
| 03:51.50 | ckknight | one thing you have to do |
| 03:51.50 | ckknight | document it |
| 03:51.50 | ckknight | on the wiki |
| 03:52.11 | Gagorian | "NO U"? |
| 03:52.31 | Gagorian | Yeah will do |
| 03:56.13 | ckknight | this IncomingHealsLib is kinda interesting |
| 03:56.22 | ckknight | someone requested a PitBull module that uses it |
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| 04:01.14 | Gagorian | ckknight: Documented! |
| 04:01.30 | Gagorian | http://www.wowace.com/wiki/AceDB-2.0#Event:_AceDB20_ResetDB |
| 04:01.50 | Sedai | any flash dev here? |
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| 04:05.27 | [Liquidor] | Long time, no s...chat. Now what time is it in the US? |
| 04:05.45 | kenlyric|home | welcome to #clock, your local timekeeping device. |
| 04:05.57 | _art3mis | hrm |
| 04:06.02 | kenlyric|home | it is a white variety of times in the US. Would you like to specify a zone? |
| 04:06.04 | _art3mis | how did i end up in here? |
| 04:06.11 | _art3mis | a white variety? |
| 04:06.11 | kenlyric|home | *wide |
| 04:06.16 | Keias | racist! |
| 04:06.31 | [Liquidor] | west, east I'm European so doesn't really matter. Daylight, night? |
| 04:06.48 | art3mis | evening to night time |
| 04:06.52 | kenlyric|home | it's both, actually. |
| 04:06.59 | [Liquidor] | Crap, raiding time :-/ |
| 04:08.18 | [Liquidor] | So when I'm at sleep, you're raiding and when I'm going to bed you're at work and when Instabul is somewhere over there... then at what time should I stick around to be within the most activity? |
| 04:08.29 | [Liquidor] | I'm awake* |
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| 04:09.24 | [Liquidor] | Oh well nvm. I'm in need of a small addon which queues ppl for a full raid to be invited when not full. Who's up for it? gogo |
| 04:09.58 | [Liquidor] | Prolly have to make it myself -.- |
| 04:11.54 | hyperChipmunk | does mana drain cause threat? |
| 04:12.09 | art3mis | [Liquidor]: about 8 hours ago til about 4 hours from now |
| 04:12.20 | Kebinusan | hyperChipmunk: should be some associated as you gain mana from it |
| 04:12.28 | Kebinusan | dunno if the drain it self causes threat, lemme see |
| 04:12.51 | CIA-22 | 03gagorian * r37645 10DrDamage/ (Data/Shaman.lua DrDamage.lua): |
| 04:12.51 | CIA-22 | DrDamage: |
| 04:12.51 | CIA-22 | - Drycoded fix for localized clients error on line 2259 |
| 04:12.58 | [Liquidor] | art3mis, Thanks for your answer but which question did you answer? |
| 04:13.03 | hyperChipmunk | no i don't |
| 04:13.10 | hyperChipmunk | viper sting doesn't at least |
| 04:14.35 | art3mis | the one about the squirrel and and the giraffe and thier perchance for strawberry liquor |
| 04:14.48 | [Liquidor] | Yarr |
| 04:14.50 | Kebinusan | would appear there is no threat associated with mana drain |
| 04:14.52 | art3mis | or maybe it was about having a flag |
| 04:14.57 | art3mis | im not sure |
| 04:15.04 | [Liquidor] | Btw |
| 04:15.06 | Kebinusan | not even from the mana gain |
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| 04:15.28 | Antiarc | Viper Sting doesn't cause mana gain |
| 04:15.30 | Gagorian | Kebinusan: Tested with warlock? |
| 04:16.06 | Kebinusan | yeah, had my voidwalker attack something with a melee hit once (137 dmg) then drained the mobs mana (5.5k) and no aggro switch |
| 04:16.45 | Kebinusan | so even if there was threat from the power gain it should have switched |
| 04:16.46 | Gagorian | Alright |
| 04:17.15 | [Liquidor] | Even Mana Burn is tough to steal aggro with |
| 04:17.25 | CIA-22 | 03gagorian * r37646 10Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0/ClassModules/Warlock.lua: Threat-1.0: - Warlock Module: Drain mana 0 threat |
| 04:17.29 | [Liquidor] | And that one deals dmg even |
| 04:18.43 | [Liquidor] | Having an account on the SVN for selective people only or? |
| 04:19.14 | ckknight | [Liquidor]: pretty much anyone who asks. |
| 04:19.31 | ckknight | [Liquidor]: some addons (Ace2, for example) might be off-limits for laymen, though |
| 04:19.33 | [Liquidor] | I'm totally smashed -.- |
| 04:20.15 | [Liquidor] | You mean restrictions? Sorry I'm not native Eng. |
| 04:20.34 | ckknight | [Liquidor]: yes. |
| 04:20.50 | [Liquidor] | World should be speaking of bits. Everyone would understand eachother much better <3 |
| 04:21.04 | ckknight | or just learn English |
| 04:21.09 | ckknight | that's the language God speaks. |
| 04:21.11 | [Liquidor] | 00010101x01010x10110x10 and then the cookie was gone. |
| 04:21.55 | [Liquidor] | =) I'm only good at speaking English. The writings.... :-/ |
| 04:22.48 | ckknight | [Liquidor]: US spans 6 timezones, btw |
| 04:22.54 | Kebinusan | Health funnel has threat associated tho god knows why anyone would use that |
| 04:23.29 | Gagorian | It was good while leveling |
| 04:23.47 | ulic | sothe health won't spew all over the place |
| 04:23.49 | [Liquidor] | ckknight, author of PitBull aight? Ye think so... now when in player mode or party/raid mode it isn't possible to right-click UFs filled in with a character, can't overwrite the default tooltip or is this just working as intended? |
| 04:24.26 | ckknight | filled in with a character? |
| 04:24.30 | [Liquidor] | uhm |
| 04:24.51 | ckknight | did you try to overwrite right-click with Clique or something? |
| 04:25.10 | [Liquidor] | well the player frame is always active if you get me, since I'm always there, however the target frame remains shown if I deselect and thereby I can right-click for a shortcut to the Target option tooltip |
| 04:26.19 | [Liquidor] | It's just me being lazy. If I have to do configurations on the Player frame I have to use the main tooltip for configuration since I can't right-click the player frame. |
| 04:26.40 | [Liquidor] | In configuration mode that is |
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| 04:27.59 | [Liquidor] | Any of you know if there's something similar to a queue'ing addon for raids? |
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| 04:32.03 | aen` | does baggins allow manual sorting INSIDE the bags? |
| 04:33.11 | NightHawkTheSane | no |
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| 04:40.06 | Mudkipz | I have come to seek wisdomes |
| 04:40.15 | Mudkipz | ...again |
| 04:40.33 | Diao | does aloft have a setting for automatically turning on/off nameplates |
| 04:41.07 | Mudkipz | Anybody have problems with window panes opening on top of each other?? |
| 04:41.10 | Fin | try Automaton |
| 04:41.12 | Fin | or Contemplate |
| 04:41.13 | anenigma | automaton does, for in/out of combat |
| 04:41.27 | Mudkipz | like character window opening on top of trade etc etc |
| 04:41.40 | Fin | define "problem" |
| 04:41.44 | Mudkipz | lets see |
| 04:42.03 | Diao | err |
| 04:42.04 | Diao | no i mean |
| 04:42.07 | Mudkipz | when I inspect someone and I open my character sheet, the window opens on top of inspect and doesn't move to the side |
| 04:42.10 | Diao | aloft has a strange bug for me |
| 04:42.21 | Diao | i always have nameplates off except when i'm fighting multiple mobs at once |
| 04:42.30 | Diao | but when i log in |
| 04:42.33 | Diao | it always turns on all nameplates |
| 04:42.46 | Diao | and it's annoying me :( |
| 04:42.50 | Fin | Mudkipz: have you moved the frames with something like MoveIt or MoveAnything? |
| 04:43.05 | Fin | have you got Automaton installed, Diao? |
| 04:43.11 | Diao | yeah |
| 04:43.15 | Diao | but i have the auto-nameplates disabled |
| 04:43.28 | Fin | you've double checked |
| 04:43.33 | Diao | yup |
| 04:43.45 | Diao | that was one of the first things i checked |
| 04:43.48 | Diao | after checking aloft settings |
| 04:44.02 | Diao | the thing is |
| 04:44.08 | Diao | if i delete my savedvars for aloft |
| 04:44.08 | Fin | I can't remember, is there an entry in Interface Options for this? |
| 04:44.09 | Mudkipz | Fin, no I do not have anything like that. I noticed it when 2.1 hit |
| 04:44.17 | Diao | it doesn't show when i login |
| 04:44.20 | Diao | but once i enable them once |
| 04:44.24 | Diao | they're on everytime i login after that |
| 04:45.05 | Fin | 'fraid, reckon both of you should start disabling addons until you find out which one is causing your problems |
| 04:46.17 | CIA-22 | 03antiarc * r37647 10Omen/Omen.lua: Omen: Omen now shows revision number in the title. |
| 04:47.11 | Mudkipz | ya i'm about to do that Fin |
| 04:47.37 | Fin | good luck |
| 04:49.29 | CIA-22 | 03bolagio * r37648 10WhoFavorites/WhoFavorites.toc: |
| 04:49.29 | CIA-22 | WhoFavorites: |
| 04:49.29 | CIA-22 | - Updated TOC with email address |
| 04:50.59 | Mudkipz | well it seems to be happening on my alt bank, which has far less mods than my main |
| 04:51.52 | stavmar_ | Antiarc: should we try omen yet? |
| 04:52.19 | Antiarc | stavmar_: Feel free to give it a shot, let me know if you run into errors or anomolies so I can fix them |
| 04:52.43 | stavmar_ | anything in particular i should be looking at and does everyone in the group need to have to function appropriately |
| 04:53.01 | Mudkipz | aha! |
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| 04:53.15 | Mudkipz | i dont know what I turned off but something fixed it hahaha |
| 04:55.37 | Antiarc | stavmar_: Just errors or obviously wrong data, and yes, other people have to have it for it to work right |
| 04:55.56 | stavmar_ | ok will try it, thanks |
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| 05:05.53 | ZealotOnAStick | Antiarc: is it close to done? |
| 05:08.30 | Mudkipz | I should get in an inn... these repeated logouts are costing me time |
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| 05:09.53 | hyperChipmunk | sadness...my first Mennu the Betrayer heroic kill and i got a purple gem for 11 healing, +2 mp5 >8P |
| 05:10.28 | hyperChipmunk | ran that chump in circles for two hours |
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| 05:12.49 | Antiarc | ZealotOnAStick: Getting closer anyway. |
| 05:13.58 | CIA-22 | 03sorren * r37649 10SorrenTimers/ (SorrenTimers.lua abilities-shaman.lua): |
| 05:13.58 | CIA-22 | SorrenTimers: |
| 05:13.59 | CIA-22 | - Fix for Stoneclaw totem and Earthbind, as well as updating to the new Parser-3.0 events. |
| 05:14.07 | Fin | http://www.blogsmithmedia.com/www.wowinsider.com/media/2007/05/gmhehehe.jpg |
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| 05:15.52 | Antiarc | How do I make the SVN auto-update revision numbers on commit? |
| 05:15.54 | Antiarc | In the code? |
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| 05:17.00 | hyperChipmunk | you mean the svn:revision tag? |
| 05:17.06 | Antiarc | yeah, I guess so |
| 05:17.09 | Antiarc | Not sure how to use it |
| 05:17.25 | NightHawkTheSane | read the svn book. |
| 05:17.31 | Antiarc | Heh :) |
| 05:17.34 | hyperChipmunk | i thought you had them in there already |
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| 05:18.13 | NightHawkTheSane | short version, set the svn:keywords property properly, then use $Revision$ in your file where you want it to show up. |
| 05:18.44 | hyperChipmunk | er, svn:keywords, yea |
| 05:18.48 | hyperChipmunk | see, i don't even know |
| 05:21.41 | Antiarc | They're in Threat, not in Omen |
| 05:23.03 | CIA-22 | 03antiarc * r37650 10Omen/ (Omen.lua Omen.toc): Omen: Added Date and Rev properties |
| 05:23.41 | Mudkipz | O SHI-- |
| 05:23.47 | Mudkipz | thank jeebus I found it |
| 05:23.58 | Wobwork | behind the couch? |
| 05:24.10 | kbh | so hows the new threat meter coming along? |
| 05:24.17 | Mudkipz | the mod screwing up my window panes! |
| 05:24.21 | Mudkipz | it was simplecombatlog??!!! |
| 05:24.25 | Mudkipz | what in the heck |
| 05:24.53 | Mudkipz | no wait |
| 05:24.57 | CIA-22 | 03antiarc * r37651 10Omen/Omen.toc: Omen: Fix revision marker. |
| 05:24.58 | Mudkipz | simpleMinimap |
| 05:25.04 | Mudkipz | arrrgh |
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| 05:26.33 | Antiarc | kbh: It's trucking along :) |
| 05:27.48 | [Ammo] | Antiarc: there is master target support already in threat-1.0 right? |
| 05:27.59 | [Ammo] | do I use _MASTER_ or something instead of _GLOBAL_ ? |
| 05:28.02 | Antiarc | [Ammo]: Master target is implicity handled |
| 05:28.08 | Antiarc | You don't have to set it. |
| 05:28.14 | [Ammo] | I mean for a view |
| 05:28.25 | Antiarc | Just get the threat list for the target you want |
| 05:28.25 | [Ammo] | but I guess I'm ok with a global threat and a target threat module in violatin |
| 05:28.27 | [Ammo] | violation |
| 05:28.36 | Antiarc | Look how Omen does it |
| 05:28.45 | [Ammo] | I kinda mimicked that |
| 05:28.53 | [Ammo] | but Omen does some extra processing that isn't needed I think |
| 05:28.59 | Antiarc | ThreatLib:GetThreat(playerToGetThreatFor, targetToGetThreatFor) |
| 05:29.03 | [Ammo] | check my Target Threat module in violoation |
| 05:29.05 | [Ammo] | yeah |
| 05:29.16 | [Ammo] | Omen does some weird recursing 5 deep though that's not needed |
| 05:29.38 | [Ammo] | unless I'm missing something |
| 05:29.38 | Mudkipz | yaya |
| 05:30.31 | Gngsk | Antiarc, I get a hexchecksum nil error on line 112 when I buffed with salv rev 37537 |
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| 05:31.23 | Gngsk | threat revision is 37524 |
| 05:32.26 | Antiarc | Latest Threat is 37643, Omen is 37651 |
| 05:32.32 | Antiarc | Try an update and see if it fixes it |
| 05:32.38 | Gngsk | k |
| 05:32.47 | Gngsk | this was with violation, guess I should check out omen too |
| 05:33.05 | [Ammo] | Gngsk: violation only listens to threat events etc |
| 05:33.13 | [Ammo] | so should be threat problem |
| 05:33.36 | [Ammo] | Antiarc: I guess you're recursing targetargettarget to find an enemy if you're targetting a friendly person |
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| 05:33.52 | Wraanger | question - do there exists an addon ( HUD to be exact ) which can be made to work with old style Nurfed HUD ? |
| 05:34.14 | Mikk | why would you want an HUD to work with a HUD? |
| 05:34.22 | Mikk | Just get a HUD? o.O |
| 05:34.23 | Gngsk | [Ammo], here's the error I get when I get buffed with salv http://pastey.net/45203 |
| 05:34.25 | Antiarc | [Ammo] Yeah, just a quick hack till I find something better. |
| 05:34.32 | Mikk | ArcHUD and IceHUD are two nice HUD addons |
| 05:34.38 | [Ammo] | Gngsk: not a violation problem |
| 05:34.45 | durcyn | archud2 is based on the old nurfed hud. try it. |
| 05:34.55 | [Ammo] | Gngsk: update your threatlib |
| 05:35.26 | Wraanger | yeah, used them both .... but .... IceHUD use another textures, and ArcHUD ...ummm ... a bit too buggy for my liking =/ |
| 05:35.26 | [Ammo] | Antiarc: could probably iterate mt list and get one faster |
| 05:35.35 | syeren | Antiarc, quite a lot of the raiding community will be keeping focused on you over the next couple of weeks :d |
| 05:35.53 | Wraanger | also, it uses not exactly those textures ) textures I am talking about looks like http://www.wowinterface.com/forums/showpost.php?p=16481&postcount=2 |
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| 05:35.58 | Antiarc | [Ammo]: Yeah, likely right :) |
| 05:36.06 | Antiarc | syeren: Pressure :( |
| 05:36.18 | syeren | ;D |
| 05:36.23 | [Ammo] | or check focus before target |
| 05:36.31 | [Ammo] | anyway, it needs some intelligence :) |
| 05:37.41 | Antiarc | Heh, agreed! |
| 05:37.41 | Mikk | Wraanger: If you want something that looks _exactly_ like Nurfed HUD, I'm afraid you're stuck with wanting Nurfed HUD, and not something else :P |
| 05:37.41 | [Ammo] | maybe a function in threat-1.0... threat:GetPrimeThreatTarget() |
| 05:37.41 | hyperChipmunk | what's wrong with archud |
| 05:37.41 | Antiarc | What's a prime threat target though? |
| 05:37.41 | syeren | Ammo, any chance you can make spell alert 'critical' certain spells? User defined list of course ;p |
| 05:37.41 | hyperChipmunk | archud is like, one of my cornerstone addons |
| 05:37.41 | [Ammo] | I dunno |
| 05:37.41 | Antiarc | Who defines that? |
| 05:37.41 | Antiarc | I figure that's the GUI's job |
| 05:37.42 | hyperChipmunk | i don't even notice it anymore |
| 05:37.42 | [Ammo] | Antiarc: threat does that |
| 05:37.42 | [Ammo] | that way all GUI's would have the same prime target |
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| 05:37.44 | [Ammo] | at first threat could use your 5 step iter |
| 05:37.49 | [Ammo] | or target, focus and then 5 step iter |
| 05:38.00 | [Ammo] | or target focus maintanktarget1... etc |
| 05:38.44 | Antiarc | Well, threat shouldn't be deciding what a prime target is, IMO. It just tracks threat and reports it. |
| 05:38.49 | Fisker- | hmm |
| 05:38.52 | [Ammo] | hmm |
| 05:38.53 | Fisker- | you guys got a new patch yesterday? |
| 05:39.03 | Wraanger | hyperChipmunk, mb it was just me ...but i was not able to make ArcHUD work properly ...uit was refusing to remember the options etc |
| 05:44.35 | hyperChipmunk | yea, it's rock-solid for me >9\ |
| 05:44.54 | Fisker- | so US didn't get patch yesterday? |
| 05:45.11 | theoddone33 | I didn't get one when I logged on today |
| 05:45.32 | NightHawkTheSane | Fisker-: nope |
| 05:45.37 | Fisker- | :o |
| 05:45.38 | Fisker- | we got one |
| 05:45.40 | Mikk | "Fixed a crash in the client" |
| 05:45.42 | Mikk | ^ patchnotes |
| 05:46.57 | Mikk | one would hope that that's error #132 |
| 05:47.16 | Fisker- | haven't gotten any crashes anyways |
| 05:47.24 | Mikk | lots of people do though |
| 05:47.29 | Fisker- | It's probably the alt+tab one, although it's also on US clients |
| 05:47.45 | Mikk | i have people crashing on logon 4 times out of 5 |
| 05:48.02 | [Ammo] | I crashed twice now logging off |
| 05:48.08 | [Ammo] | with #132 |
| 05:48.12 | hyperChipmunk | wooo |
| 05:48.28 | hyperChipmunk | i don't have an alt-tab, but maybe they'll fix my crash-on-pet-death |
| 05:48.46 | Mikk | ouch |
| 05:49.30 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r37652 10Parser-3.0/Parser-3.0/Parser-3.0.lua: |
| 05:49.30 | CIA-22 | Parser-3.0 - fix issues with upgrading Parser-1.1 compat layer from one Parser-3.0 version to another. |
| 05:49.30 | CIA-22 | - Properly register events/infoTypes with the real Parser-1.1 if it shows up. |
| 05:50.04 | ckknight | Fisker-: what's the patch number? |
| 05:50.22 | [Ammo] | 6729 |
| 05:50.34 | [Ammo] | 6692 -> 6729 |
| 05:50.39 | ckknight | hrm |
| 05:50.46 | [Ammo] | 1.79MB |
| 05:50.46 | ckknight | any framexml changes? |
| 05:50.53 | [Ammo] | no idea |
| 05:50.56 | ckknight | [Ammo]: also, is it 2.1.1 or still 2.1.0? |
| 05:51.01 | [Ammo] | 2.1.0 |
| 05:51.05 | ckknight | okay |
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| 05:52.20 | Mikk | Wet dream: An addon dev server that acts like the PTR servers with characters. And that doesn't restart at the same time as the others :S |
| 05:53.31 | Mikk | Fix access by automatically kicking off characters that don't spend at least 50% of their time afk =P |
| 05:53.42 | ckknight | lol |
| 05:53.54 | ckknight | but what if you need to test stuff? |
| 05:54.37 | Mikk | Well, most stuff would probably be easy to test |
| 05:54.45 | Mikk | Endless arena games where people just stand and stare at eachother etc =P |
| 05:55.01 | Mikk | I mean.. a server full of devs.. *drool* =P |
| 05:55.19 | syeren | You could imagine the discussions between players. |
| 05:55.28 | syeren | "Hmm, something is wrong with X." |
| 05:55.33 | syeren | "Oh just fix Y and it's done!" |
| 05:55.37 | Mikk | Then again I'd probably get pissed off at the amount of requests for help that I'd get while busy coding my own shit :P |
| 05:55.42 | ckknight | "Help me test this" |
| 05:55.46 | Mikk | Idd |
| 05:55.54 | ckknight | "Now jump on my queu" |
| 05:55.59 | ckknight | "lol, I made u jump" |
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| 05:56.09 | Mikk | Hahahaha |
| 05:56.36 | syeren | Anything amazing planned for Pitbull Ckk ;)? |
| 05:56.48 | ckknight | syeren: someone suggested an incoming heals module |
| 05:56.59 | syeren | Nice. |
| 05:57.01 | ckknight | which'd help wrt dealing with overhealing |
| 05:57.09 | syeren | Would it require other people to have Pitbull though? |
| 05:57.14 | Mikk | healsync? o.O |
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| 05:58.03 | syeren | ckknight, if you ever get stupidly bored one day, fix coolDown so you move the mini map button and so it doesn't create double instances of the cooldown displays when zoning ;p |
| 05:58.04 | ckknight | syeren: or another addon that uses IncomingHealsLib |
| 05:58.15 | syeren | Best cooldown mod ever, yet no longer developed :( |
| 05:58.18 | ckknight | cooldown? |
| 05:58.42 | durcyn | use Forecast. |
| 05:58.51 | durcyn | coolDown's a fucking godawful mess |
| 05:58.59 | syeren | http://files.wowace.com/coolDown/coolDown.zip |
| 05:59.04 | [Ammo] | ckknight: I suggest checking what heal detection Grid uses CastCommLib or something I think and use that |
| 05:59.16 | [Ammo] | a lot of grid users out there |
| 05:59.25 | ckknight | tru. |
| 05:59.29 | syeren | I just want a fucking cooldown monitor which doesn't require me to use my action bars like a moron, or has bars that just suddenly forget to track things to be honest ;p |
| 05:59.43 | ckknight | I meant to put an e there, but fuck it |
| 05:59.52 | durcyn | evl just started a spiffy candybar cooldown mod |
| 05:59.58 | durcyn | it's on the svn, currently named forecast |
| 06:00.02 | ckknight | CooldownTimers2? |
| 06:00.05 | ckknight | :-P |
| 06:00.11 | durcyn | nuts. |
| 06:00.12 | syeren | Bars stop tracking randomly. |
| 06:00.17 | syeren | When you do a bunch of zoning. |
| 06:00.21 | syeren | (Arena.) |
| 06:00.28 | ckknight | syeren: I'll zone you! |
| 06:00.41 | durcyn | ... that's because the cooldowns are reset when you zone into an arena :o |
| 06:00.44 | syeren | Can't use a new version of coolDown due to the double cooldowns, which means I end up having over 20 fucking cooldowns displayed on my screen. |
| 06:01.05 | syeren | durcyn, that would explain why it suddenly decides to stop tracking Psychic Scream when I'm out of it? |
| 06:01.09 | syeren | IMAGINE THAT. |
| 06:01.11 | CIA-22 | 03scorpio0920 * r37653 10LittleWigs/TempestKeep/Freywinn.lua: LittleWigs: fix Freywinn.lua error |
| 06:01.13 | durcyn | forecast or cdt2? |
| 06:01.23 | durcyn | because if it's forecast, tell evl and he'll correct it :) |
| 06:01.30 | durcyn | i wouldn't even call it beta right now |
| 06:01.50 | syeren | How does it display the cooldowns? |
| 06:01.56 | durcyn | candybars. |
| 06:02.10 | durcyn | even uses SML |
| 06:02.41 | durcyn | not polished yet, you may have to jimmy with savedvars to make positioning work, but it's moving in the right direction |
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| 06:03.28 | durcyn | and after using coolDown, CDT2, and oCD, i can honestly say Forecast Doesn't Suck (tm) |
| 06:06.02 | ckknight | I should try it |
| 06:06.56 | fixtze | chronometer works fine aswell |
| 06:07.35 | Gngsk | chronometer doesn't do cooldowns :\ |
| 06:09.33 | Sedai | is SCTD fixed yet? :P |
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| 06:11.10 | ckknight | blah |
| 06:11.12 | ckknight | hrm, Re: CastCommLib, I'm not the most fond of using libraries not on the wowace SVN... |
| 06:12.39 | fixtze | only meters that annoy me are |
| 06:12.42 | fixtze | the fact that not a single mod |
| 06:12.50 | fixtze | is able to handle "Fire vulnerability" correct |
| 06:13.50 | Sedai | is SCT still not undated |
| 06:13.54 | Sedai | updated |
| 06:14.02 | ckknight | Sedai: for? |
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| 06:15.31 | Sedai | i get a message telling me: Wrong Version of SCT loaded. SCTD will not load or work until SCT is updated to 5.6 |
| 06:15.49 | ckknight | delete all your sct stuff |
| 06:15.52 | ckknight | reinstall from scratch |
| 06:16.04 | ckknight | possibly wipe your WTF |
| 06:16.10 | CIA-22 | 03hati * r37654 10MendWatch/MendWatch-Locale.lua: MendWatch: added french localization (thanks Feu) |
| 06:16.15 | Fisker- | http://armory.wow-europe.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Ravencrest&n=Fiskerdin <-zomg new guild |
| 06:16.16 | Sedai | all hail ckknight!! |
| 06:16.40 | ckknight | k? |
| 06:16.58 | ckknight | Fisker-: I saw yesterday |
| 06:17.37 | Sedai | saww i had SCT all perfect |
| 06:18.01 | Fisker- | ckknight i know but i just got it updated on armory |
| 06:18.02 | theoddone33 | 2 prayerbooks eh? |
| 06:18.03 | Fisker- | :o |
| 06:18.07 | Sedai | diagnal texts going with my hud and heals seperated |
| 06:18.11 | theoddone33 | I'm guessing they share a cooldown :P |
| 06:18.45 | durcyn | i almost transferred to ravencrest, but then i decided i didn't like ghost towns |
| 06:18.52 | Sedai | QQ |
| 06:19.08 | Fisker- | whatever do you mean durcyn? |
| 06:19.16 | theoddone33 | maybe he means the US |
| 06:19.23 | durcyn | was up for a free transfer when it was new |
| 06:19.24 | Fisker- | i guess |
| 06:19.31 | Fisker- | then it's US |
| 06:19.31 | durcyn | oh, duh. |
| 06:19.33 | durcyn | sorry :o |
| 06:19.43 | theoddone33 | ravencrest US is in my battlegroup |
| 06:19.49 | theoddone33 | don't see them pvping often |
| 06:19.50 | Fisker- | Ravencrest EU had like 4-5 hours queue on the first day |
| 06:19.59 | durcyn | wish they'd stop using the same name for both continents |
| 06:21.00 | Gokie | then you'd have people bitching "OMG US/EU has cooler realm names!" |
| 06:21.02 | Sedai | I cannot wipe my whole WTF |
| 06:21.07 | Sedai | i wont start over again |
| 06:21.13 | Sedai | so lame |
| 06:21.26 | LePeR|Jaunia | just back it up |
| 06:21.30 | Sedai | do you have ANY idea how many man hours have gone into making my GUI PERFECT |
| 06:21.34 | [Ammo] | or just delete your sct saved vars |
| 06:21.42 | Sedai | i did |
| 06:21.45 | ckknight | Sedai: just the sct part. |
| 06:21.49 | Sedai | still ge tthe same message |
| 06:21.50 | [Ammo] | or even better ditch SCT and download MSBT |
| 06:21.55 | [Ammo] | sct = cpu and mem hungry |
| 06:21.57 | ckknight | yea, go with that. |
| 06:22.06 | Sedai | i have plenty of mem and cpu |
| 06:22.10 | ckknight | [Ammo]: still contemplating making my own FCT dealy |
| 06:22.13 | Sedai | hmm |
| 06:22.15 | ckknight | not sure if I'll do it, though |
| 06:24.21 | Sedai | does MSBT do the same as SCT? |
| 06:24.27 | ckknight | yea |
| 06:24.31 | Sedai | hmm |
| 06:24.35 | Sedai | ill check it out |
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| 06:24.38 | Sedai | thank you <3 |
| 06:24.47 | jwwpua | with SCT, can you add custom triggers/messages? for instance, when someone kicks/pummels/etc me I want it to display a message |
| 06:25.06 | [Ammo] | jwwpua: you probably can |
| 06:25.11 | jwwpua | i thought you could by editing a file, but it might have been another addon |
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| 06:31.21 | Laricwork | jwwpua: it is in sct_event_config.lua |
| 06:31.40 | Fisker- | ARGH |
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| 06:32.20 | Elkano | ~eat Fisker- |
| 06:32.31 | purl | ACTION eats Fisker- and falls over dead |
| 06:32.32 | Sedai | how come AG_uf isnt showing my party frame? |
| 06:32.33 | Sedai | :( |
| 06:33.10 | Sedai | anyone heard of anyone else having that issue? |
| 06:33.23 | jwwpua | Laricwork: thanks I'm trying to figure it out now :P |
| 06:33.34 | Gokie | Pitbull's show-5-man-raid-as-party option is wonderful |
| 06:33.51 | jwwpua | Laricwork: are you familiar with adding events? |
| 06:34.02 | Gokie | now if only Grid had the opposite option |
| 06:34.22 | Gokie | haha |
| 06:36.01 | [Ammo] | Grid shows a 5 man party for me no problemy |
| 06:36.08 | [Ammo] | or used to till I ditched it again |
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| 06:37.26 | Gokie | no, I mean I want Grid to NOT show if it's a 5-man raid |
| 06:37.28 | Peoii | hokay... sooo |
| 06:37.50 | Peoii | Trying out MSBT after reading ya'lls comments and I like, any suggestions on eavesdrop? |
| 06:38.04 | Gokie | wouldn't be an issue at all if arenas didn't automatically count as raids =/ |
| 06:38.11 | [Ammo] | never used eavesdrop dunno |
| 06:39.42 | syeren | jwwpua, use MSBT. |
| 06:39.43 | ckknight | what's eavesdrop? |
| 06:39.44 | syeren | Seriously ;p |
| 06:39.50 | syeren | Combat Log. |
| 06:39.55 | syeren | Simple one, and a good one ;p |
| 06:39.58 | ckknight | SCL? |
| 06:40.04 | syeren | Nah, better ;p |
| 06:40.10 | ckknight | *shrug* |
| 06:40.51 | Fin | ckknight: it's like SCT but in a frame with scrollback etc. |
| 06:40.57 | Antiarc | How do I procedurally set the size of a FontString? |
| 06:41.09 | ckknight | font size? |
| 06:41.38 | ckknight | local font, _, outline = thing:GetFont(); thing:SetFont(font, 12, outline); |
| 06:41.40 | Antiarc | I'm looking through the API and not seeing it. |
| 06:41.44 | Antiarc | Oh, duh. |
| 06:41.48 | Antiarc | Oy. |
| 06:41.52 | Fin | vey |
| 06:42.18 | syeren | ckknight, fixed coolDown's minimap button yet?!?! |
| 06:42.23 | ckknight | no, don't ask again |
| 06:42.26 | syeren | I wish I knew how to just remove it :( |
| 06:42.36 | jwwpua | syeren: I can add triggers with MSBT? |
| 06:42.56 | syeren | I'd log in and make 100% sure but EU Realms are down :p |
| 06:43.00 | syeren | Pretty sure you can ;p |
| 06:43.08 | jwwpua | is it ace? |
| 06:43.13 | syeren | Has shit for Backlash and shit, and allows you to make even more. |
| 06:43.16 | syeren | Ermm, sort of? |
| 06:43.42 | syeren | http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info5153-MikScrollingBattleText.html |
| 06:43.49 | Sedai | ckknight: what do you think? |
| 06:43.59 | ckknight | Sedai: about? |
| 06:44.32 | krka | Sedai: shouldn't you use the nick AceSedai instead? O_o |
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| 06:44.42 | Elkano | Antiarc: does threat-1.0 also provide values for thread overtake and threat regain as KTM does? |
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| 06:45.32 | syeren | ckknight, what kind of code am I looking for regarding a mini map button? |
| 06:45.47 | Sedai | ckknight, check PM? |
| 06:45.50 | ckknight | syeren: don't know, look for the word "Minimap" |
| 06:46.04 | ckknight | Sedai: no message, are you registered with nickserv? |
| 06:46.08 | Sedai | elkana, < your buffbar saved me. |
| 06:46.12 | Sedai | i guess not :( |
| 06:46.26 | Sedai | ill look into regestering |
| 06:46.36 | Antiarc | Elkano: No, not right now. I'm thinking that's a UI's job, but I'm thinking how to best do it. |
| 06:46.41 | Antiarc | Either way, it's going to show up. |
| 06:47.28 | CIA-22 | 03antiarc * r37655 10Omen/Omen.lua: Omen: Add Omen and Threat revision numbers to the display. |
| 06:47.28 | Elkano | iirc it's a simple multiplyer to the 1s place threat so your#re right, could be done by a GUI |
| 06:47.35 | Antiarc | Yes, correct |
| 06:47.42 | Antiarc | 1.1 for melee range, 1.3 for outside of melee range. |
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| 06:47.59 | Antiarc | However, now, I'm going to bed |
| 06:48.00 | Wobwork | join #wowi-lounge |
| 06:48.02 | Antiarc | So, g'night all :) |
| 06:48.06 | Antiarc | Wobwork: FAIL |
| 06:48.07 | jwwpua | what's the cmd to cancel a duel |
| 06:48.11 | Antiarc | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:48.13 | Wobwork | it's true |
| 06:48.15 | Elkano | someone should write n Aloft module ;) |
| 06:48.24 | jwwpua | ah thanks |
| 06:48.35 | Sedai | what is the irc command to regester my nick, I forget it :( |
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| 06:48.56 | Mikk | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:48.58 | ckknight | Sedai: /msg nickserv help |
| 06:49.01 | ckknight | lol |
| 06:49.07 | Sedai | ugh i feel noob now :( |
| 06:49.15 | Sedai | :D |
| 06:49.16 | Mikk | you're welcome =P |
| 06:49.44 | ckknight | noob |
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| 06:54.06 | syeren | Sigh, I can't see anything that shouts out minimap-button other than "button," but that has nothing dictating where it goes :/ |
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| 06:58.35 | Jaxon | jwwpua: /forfeit works too |
| 07:02.11 | CIA-22 | 03scorpio0920 * r37656 10LittleWigs/TempestKeep/ (Freywinn.lua Soccothrates.lua): LittleWigs: Update zhTW (incomplated) |
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| 07:05.52 | s | morning |
| 07:06.47 | Mikk | g'moanin |
| 07:07.27 | Sedai_ | is there a menu for MSBTCooldowns? |
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| 07:08.45 | Sedai_ | hello Mikk =) |
| 07:10.07 | ckknight | Mikk rhymes with Dick |
| 07:10.09 | ckknight | lol. |
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| 07:11.51 | ckknight | evl: is ForeCast usable? |
| 07:12.12 | evl | Yes but I will try to fix it today |
| 07:12.22 | evl | there was some issues with tonumber() from the dewdrop |
| 07:12.28 | evl | I have to rename it though, AGAIN |
| 07:12.42 | evl | FuckThePoliceTheyDontWantPeace |
| 07:12.45 | ckknight | why? |
| 07:12.46 | evl | nobody can have that name? |
| 07:12.56 | ckknight | somebody stole Forecast? |
| 07:12.57 | ckknight | who? |
| 07:12.58 | evl | people complaining there's an addon named the same at curse or something |
| 07:13.02 | [Ammo] | forecast is already an addon for a year or 2 |
| 07:13.08 | ckknight | lame |
| 07:13.10 | [Ammo] | it used to broadcast spellcasts over the CTRA channel |
| 07:13.10 | ckknight | what's it do? |
| 07:13.15 | s2 | just a short question: anyone else having tons of BanzaiLib errors lately? I get 1 error from ace event and then thousands from Banzailib |
| 07:13.27 | s2 | but could be i fubared some savedvars ;) |
| 07:13.27 | evl | s2: as of yesterday no :) |
| 07:13.35 | sedatedChipmunk | Aftcast np |
| 07:14.03 | s2 | then i will have to delete the vars ;) i hope it is none of those addons i spent ages on layouting them ;) |
| 07:14.14 | theoddone33 | I clicked on a link for a site offering a pvp guide... they say they got their strategies from some warrior and have a video of him topping the scoreboard in a battleground or two... but if you go to his armor his 5v5 team is only 1700ish |
| 07:14.32 | ckknight | s2: what's the first error you got? |
| 07:14.33 | evl | ckknight: So any naming suggestions? :P |
| 07:14.39 | ckknight | evl: okay, let's see |
| 07:14.48 | ckknight | evl: it's a spell cooldown mod |
| 07:14.56 | evl | It shows bars that let's you know what abilities you have ready |
| 07:15.09 | ckknight | so the name can relate to time |
| 07:15.20 | ckknight | or it can relate to being "cool" |
| 07:15.27 | evl | Hourglass :D |
| 07:15.30 | ckknight | or you could name it something completely separate (e.g. PitBull) |
| 07:15.30 | evl | i got that trinket |
| 07:15.35 | ckknight | Hourglass is nice |
| 07:15.38 | s2 | i cannot look at it directly (working right now ;)) but its something about aceevent registering an unknown event and then a ton of banzai 1.1 not loaded (i checked it isn't disabled and installed) |
| 07:15.49 | NightHawkTheSane | ckknight: so, what you're saying is.. the name could be anything ;) |
| 07:16.01 | ckknight | NightHawkTheSane: could be, has to be executed properly, though |
| 07:16.16 | evl | ckknight: it's not taken :D |
| 07:16.16 | NightHawkTheSane | well, as long as you're narrowing down the options, you know? ;) |
| 07:16.27 | ckknight | NightHawkTheSane: I feel I could name PitBull whatever the fuck I wanted just out of sheer force of will |
| 07:16.33 | NightHawkTheSane | Hourglass is nice, though. |
| 07:16.42 | NightHawkTheSane | ckknight: most likely, yes |
| 07:16.46 | s2 | but then again pitbull stopped updating the target hp bar as well (i still get the right numbers in the text but the updates on the bar happen only every few seconds) i think i have to do the classic blizz suggestion ;) kill my savedvars ;) |
| 07:17.26 | Wobwork | ckknight: More likely is the reason that noone cares about the name, a clever name is noticable, sure, but with enough exposure you can name your mod anything |
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| 07:18.31 | CIA-22 | 03evl * r37657 10Forecast/core.lua: |
| 07:18.31 | CIA-22 | Forecast: |
| 07:18.31 | CIA-22 | - You can now type /forecast to bring up an options menu |
| 07:18.40 | Jaxon | Name it Masterfunbation and then your motto can be "Putting the fun back into Masterfunbation" |
| 07:18.43 | evl | What's the easiest way to rename an entire folder? |
| 07:19.12 | NightHawkTheSane | svn help move |
| 07:20.00 | art3mis | a KoS addon called Mans "because without the laughter it sounds lame" ;P |
| 07:20.02 | Mikk | TortoiseSVN has a "Rename". Which is actually a "move" =P |
| 07:20.08 | sedatedChipmunk | i prefer Aftcast...it's more appropriate too =p |
| 07:20.26 | sedatedChipmunk | since the bars don't show up until after you cast the spell >8) |
| 07:20.33 | NightHawkTheSane | art3mis: lol |
| 07:21.03 | NightHawkTheSane | Mikk: yeah, rename, move, and mv are synonyms in subversion |
| 07:21.09 | CIA-22 | 03evl * r37658 10/trunk/ (Forecast/ Hourglass/): Renaming again because otherwise the communists won't stop chasing my family, thanks to myself for the brilliant new name. |
| 07:21.10 | Sedai_ | what is the MSBTC dependency? |
| 07:21.11 | art3mis | sedatedChipmunk: Posterior ;) |
| 07:21.14 | Sedai_ | called* |
| 07:21.17 | sedatedChipmunk | there ya go |
| 07:21.17 | art3mis | call it posterior! |
| 07:21.42 | sedatedChipmunk | CastRate |
| 07:21.46 | art3mis | hahahaha |
| 07:21.48 | NightHawkTheSane | I think if you make evl rename it again, he's going to flip and murder someone. |
| 07:21.49 | art3mis | perfect! |
| 07:21.58 | evl | FUCKING COMMIES! |
| 07:22.07 | art3mis | CastRate is a great name |
| 07:22.13 | sedatedChipmunk | oh, man, now i have to make a new addon |
| 07:22.16 | Mikk | CastRate makes no sense wrt cooldowns |
| 07:22.24 | NightHawkTheSane | it totally is, i demand an addon named CastRate |
| 07:22.25 | sedatedChipmunk | so? |
| 07:22.33 | art3mis | sure it is |
| 07:22.43 | art3mis | it keeps track of the "rate" you can "cast" next ;P |
| 07:22.43 | sedatedChipmunk | sittin' on a gold mine, man |
| 07:23.03 | Mikk | I give up. Name it MyDogAteMyHomework or something... it's not like people are gonna get a name that's 5 steps removed from what it's actually doing anyway |
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| 07:23.10 | art3mis | someone needs to make an addon called Icle |
| 07:23.18 | sedatedChipmunk | qq mik |
| 07:23.19 | art3mis | so we can have Test-Icle |
| 07:23.35 | art3mis | and for frostmages Ice-Icle |
| 07:23.37 | s2 | it should do something like translating all the thins you type in leetspeek ;) |
| 07:23.47 | sedatedChipmunk | there's gotta be a place for a mod called CastRate |
| 07:24.08 | art3mis | CastRating ;P |
| 07:24.15 | Mikk | Sure. Something that tracks how often you're actually casting your damage spells compared to how often you COULD be casting them if you used Quartz properly. |
| 07:24.30 | art3mis | you can make an addon that calculates the best damage combos for spells ;P |
| 07:24.36 | art3mis | and rates thier effectivness |
| 07:25.59 | [Ammo] | accompanied with agonizing screams of castration if you don't keep up your castrate |
| 07:25.59 | sedatedChipmunk | lol |
| 07:25.59 | evl | Do I have to run tonumber() on any value passed to the set function of a Dewdrop text type option? |
| 07:26.00 | Mikk | [Ammo]: Yups =P |
| 07:26.00 | sedatedChipmunk | Tekkub: wake up; we got a new mod for you |
| 07:26.00 | art3mis | hah |
| 07:26.00 | [Ammo] | speaking of screams |
| 07:26.00 | Mikk | I know a couple of mages in my guild that need castration |
| 07:26.00 | Tekkub | eh? |
| 07:26.00 | [Ammo] | time to visit the dentist |
| 07:26.00 | [Ammo] | ~ |
| 07:26.00 | sedatedChipmunk | CastRate |
| 07:26.00 | sedatedChipmunk | figure it out |
| 07:26.00 | Mikk | castrate |
| 07:26.10 | art3mis | step 1. name the mod step 2. ?????? step 3. get pestered on irc because you made typos step 4. kill your parents step 5. profit |
| 07:26.25 | sedatedChipmunk | step 2 is hand it to tekkub |
| 07:26.26 | art3mis | its foolproof! |
| 07:26.33 | art3mis | oh right |
| 07:27.01 | Sedai_ | i cannot find 'Mik's Scrolling Battle Text' |
| 07:27.03 | art3mis | hey tek make me an addon that calculates damage points for casting like healpoints and tankpoints |
| 07:27.11 | Tekkub | busy killing chickens |
| 07:27.21 | art3mis | by choking them? |
| 07:27.25 | sedatedChipmunk | it's Mikord |
| 07:27.34 | sedatedChipmunk | and look for MikScrollingBattleText |
| 07:27.37 | sedatedChipmunk | ~msbt |
| 07:27.47 | purl | methinks msbt is Mikord's Scrolling Battle Text, a possible SCT replacement, found at http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info5153-2.0.html |
| 07:27.49 | Mikk | art3mis: That be theorycrafting |
| 07:28.01 | art3mis | mikk yeah but a bit more sp[ecialized |
| 07:28.03 | sedatedChipmunk | CastRation? |
| 07:28.08 | sedatedChipmunk | for conjuring food |
| 07:28.11 | art3mis | tank poionts and healpoints are great |
| 07:28.18 | art3mis | i need a caster damage version though |
| 07:28.23 | art3mis | need==want |
| 07:28.26 | Mikk | Tekkub: *prod* read your PMs damnit =P |
| 07:28.38 | art3mis | sedatedChipmunk: hah |
| 07:28.56 | art3mis | Castration and BladderControl |
| 07:28.58 | Mikk | art3mis: It's built into the gui tbh. It's called "spell damage". =P |
| 07:29.01 | art3mis | for food and water ;P |
| 07:29.08 | Tekkub | I have a solid line of these chickens |
| 07:29.10 | Tekkub | it's great |
| 07:29.12 | kbh | talkin about somthing like theorycraft? |
| 07:29.17 | Mikk | o.O |
| 07:29.18 | art3mis | yes |
| 07:29.27 | kbh | isnt theorycraft over |
| 07:29.32 | art3mis | only tooltip based and only for spell damage to factor crits int spirit etc |
| 07:29.34 | kbh | or is there an ace version now |
| 07:29.50 | art3mis | like tank points and heal points |
| 07:30.07 | kbh | so no stats for mages eh? |
| 07:30.11 | Kalman| | art3mis: Pawn. |
| 07:30.13 | s2 | btw another question from a hardcore addon user who has no idea about writing them themselves ;) I would like to have a bar that shows me my combopoints is it hard to program something like that? |
| 07:30.16 | sedatedChipmunk | night folks |
| 07:30.17 | art3mis | pawn? |
| 07:30.19 | Kalman| | Pawn. |
| 07:30.22 | sedatedChipmunk | KTHXBAI |
| 07:30.29 | art3mis | lates chipper |
| 07:30.31 | Kalman| | Make up your own scale, Pawn will give you a readout of points on the item tooltips. |
| 07:30.36 | art3mis | pawn does that? |
| 07:30.43 | art3mis | or should i reply night to queens bishop 4 |
| 07:30.44 | jwwpua | anyone familiar with using custom search patterns in MSBT? |
| 07:30.44 | Kalman| | That's all it does, afaik. |
| 07:30.46 | art3mis | knight |
| 07:30.51 | art3mis | ooo |
| 07:30.56 | art3mis | didnt know aboot that thanks |
| 07:31.08 | Kalman| | Hard part is deriving a custom scale you want to use. :p |
| 07:31.28 | art3mis | im a shadow priest surely it has a setting above "godly" ;) |
| 07:31.34 | art3mis | err built in setting |
| 07:31.46 | NightHawkTheSane | knight to queen's bishop 4? my god man, that's lunacy! surely you meant pawn to queen 4. |
| 07:32.03 | art3mis | no way, its a total gambit! |
| 07:32.26 | art3mis | karspov used it in the 3rd game vs deepblue after 45seconds of thought |
| 07:32.27 | ckknight | gambit was a pretty cool X-Man |
| 07:32.30 | NightHawkTheSane | gambit? what's he got to do with this.. |
| 07:32.56 | art3mis | ya know what scares me some days? |
| 07:33.02 | art3mis | that nerds like us control the world |
| 07:33.15 | Kalman| | art3mis: If you're an spriest, all you need to do is look at the +dmg and add it up. Nothing else matters. :p |
| 07:33.23 | art3mis | not true |
| 07:33.31 | art3mis | in combat mana regen and crit play a big part ;P |
| 07:33.44 | art3mis | i used to have 15% crit and every second spell critted |
| 07:33.54 | art3mis | dropped to 12 and now im lucky if i crit once in 10 |
| 07:33.59 | Kalman| | If you had 15% crit, 1 in 8 would crit... |
| 07:34.04 | art3mis | in theory |
| 07:34.05 | Gokie | ... that's just your mind playing tricks on you |
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| 07:34.15 | Gokie | or a very lucky/unlucky string |
| 07:34.20 | art3mis | no its the big numbers on the screen thanks to sct ;) |
| 07:34.28 | art3mis | it was on gruul |
| 07:34.32 | art3mis | and everything up to him |
| 07:34.49 | art3mis | did a 3700 mb and a 3200 sw:d against his guards |
| 07:34.56 | art3mis | i died about 3 seconds after that |
| 07:34.58 | Gokie | I'm pretty sure you aren't getting every second spell to crit with a 15% crit rate =P |
| 07:35.13 | art3mis | pretty close to |
| 07:35.42 | kbh | armory! |
| 07:35.48 | Diao | it's the "big numbers" effect |
| 07:35.48 | art3mis | but i noticed a LARGE drop at 12 over 15 |
| 07:35.54 | Diao | you only notice it when you get a string |
| 07:35.58 | Diao | and you forget when you fail to crit at all |
| 07:36.02 | art3mis | nope |
| 07:36.08 | art3mis | i actually watch my hits alot ;P |
| 07:36.08 | kbh | i can get up to 32% to crit with fire spells |
| 07:36.19 | Jaxon | It is easier to notice big numbers as opposed to small numbres that fit in with everything else. |
| 07:36.21 | art3mis | we i can brag to the other shadow priest in our guild since we compete |
| 07:36.21 | Diao | there's no way it's every other spell |
| 07:36.26 | Diao | :P |
| 07:36.53 | kbh | whats your toons name? |
| 07:37.03 | art3mis | ill give you the mathetical odds on this, but it sure seems like with 15 crit i hit alot more than 15 should allow yet at 12 i rarely crit |
| 07:37.27 | Iceroth | is it possible to change the size of the blizz 'floating damage text'? |
| 07:37.27 | Kalman| | At 15, you'll see 25% more crits than at 12. |
| 07:37.41 | art3mis | how so? |
| 07:38.22 | Wobwork | hehe |
| 07:38.22 | art3mis | ;) |
| 07:38.22 | Diao | that's like people saying it "feels" like they never miss at 10-14% +hit rating |
| 07:38.22 | art3mis | show me the math |
| 07:38.22 | art3mis | on irc! |
| 07:38.22 | Wobwork | 3 is 25% of 12 =P |
| 07:38.23 | Kalman| | But you're still only going to crit on 1/8. :p |
| 07:38.23 | NightHawkTheSane | 12 * 1.25 = 15? :P |
| 07:38.23 | art3mis | no real math ;P |
| 07:38.25 | Mikk | On that note, one of our ferlols had 75% critrate on gruul the other day |
| 07:38.31 | Mikk | Over the course of the entire fight |
| 07:38.46 | Kalman| | With specials or melee or overall? |
| 07:38.47 | Mikk | That's liek... duh? |
| 07:39.00 | Iceroth | heh that's sick, with agi totem i can get over 40% but.. |
| 07:39.02 | Sedai_ | argh, aguf is using 32MiB |
| 07:39.04 | Wobwork | The next day, he missed every strike he made |
| 07:39.06 | Gokie | I find it really hard to believe the people who say they fee like they don't get all that many resists even w/o being close to hit cap |
| 07:39.10 | kbh | boomkin aura! |
| 07:39.14 | Gokie | *feel |
| 07:39.18 | kbh | gets me so close to 40% |
| 07:39.21 | Mikk | Yeah I know... his stats say 35%ish like they should |
| 07:39.24 | art3mis | http://armory.worldofwarcraft.com/#character-sheet.xml?r=Echo+Isles&n=Rozalyn |
| 07:39.30 | Mikk | But ... the damage meters thought differently that day =P |
| 07:39.33 | art3mis | im at 10.67 right now |
| 07:40.04 | Mikk | Gokie: I've given up on "feeling" myself. I just watch my stats. They don't lie =P |
| 07:40.05 | art3mis | and ive only been to kara once and far to lazy to get my shadowweave chest ;P |
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| 07:40.21 | Wobwork | Mikk: Yeah right |
| 07:40.25 | Mikk | art3mis: just ignore crit. it helps not at all for meltface |
| 07:40.29 | kbh | this is my mage : http://armory.worldofwarcraft.com/#character-sheet.xml?r=Anvilmar&n=Limmie |
| 07:40.31 | Wobwork | Everyone feels themselves =P |
| 07:40.49 | kbh | get + damage and hit for good raid dps |
| 07:40.56 | Mikk | ^ words of wisdom |
| 07:41.09 | kbh | crits = burst = pull aggro |
| 07:41.10 | Gokie | Mikk: I know, but what I'm getting at is that even when I run with something like 16.5% hit, I still definitely notice the resists |
| 07:41.30 | Diao | o_O |
| 07:41.33 | Mikk | We're not talking casters here are we |
| 07:41.42 | kbh | its really a generic rule |
| 07:41.50 | kbh | fury warriors and hunters do it the same way |
| 07:41.56 | Gokie | melee or caster doesn't really make a difference |
| 07:41.58 | Diao | i thought it was only 17% resist |
| 07:42.00 | Diao | for a +3 mob |
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| 07:42.15 | Mikk | Gokie: well, dual wielders need lots more +hit =P |
| 07:42.17 | NightHawkTheSane | for spells it is. |
| 07:42.33 | art3mis | i hate that locks and mages can use swords |
| 07:42.33 | Diao | and with 16.5% hit gokie still notices resist D: |
| 07:42.36 | Diao | that's insane |
| 07:42.37 | Diao | lol |
| 07:42.43 | art3mis | and that most of the maces suck for shadow ;P |
| 07:42.46 | kbh | artemis go get the hammer from heroic slave pens |
| 07:42.46 | NightHawkTheSane | Probably because they stick out more ;) |
| 07:42.51 | Mikk | idd =) |
| 07:43.00 | Diao | lol |
| 07:43.09 | Diao | you know |
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| 07:43.13 | Diao | there's a fury warrior with like |
| 07:43.14 | art3mis | i sued to be a mace priest |
| 07:43.16 | Mikk | Well, at 16.5% you should be getting like 1 out of 60 resists |
| 07:43.18 | art3mis | used |
| 07:43.18 | Diao | 23.85% hit |
| 07:43.24 | art3mis | then it just started making me sad |
| 07:43.27 | Diao | theoretically he should have a .15% chance to miss |
| 07:43.40 | Diao | but he hits like a baby :( |
| 07:43.43 | Mikk | There's always a base 1% missrate |
| 07:43.45 | Kalman| | kbh: Dagger, arguably, depending on how much hit you have on other parts of your gear. |
| 07:43.49 | Diao | eh |
| 07:44.07 | art3mis | i just need to instance more i think |
| 07:44.09 | kbh | priests can use daggers? |
| 07:44.13 | Mikk | yes |
| 07:44.17 | Mikk | but not swords |
| 07:44.18 | NightHawkTheSane | everyone but paladins can use daggers |
| 07:44.23 | art3mis | its kind of funny that most of my gear is better than a lot of the kara drops |
| 07:44.44 | Mikk | art3mis: not really. t4 epix suck bawls and we know it. |
| 07:44.45 | Diao | Mikk: i'm pretty sure there isn't a 1% base missrate |
| 07:44.46 | krka | is that true? maybe i should stop going to church to mock the priests |
| 07:44.49 | art3mis | yay boobies \o/ |
| 07:44.54 | Mikk | Diao: I'm pretty sure there is =P |
| 07:44.54 | kbh | you need the tailoring chest!! |
| 07:44.55 | Diao | with 7% to hit and a 2h in millions of damage parsed |
| 07:44.57 | Diao | i've never missed |
| 07:44.59 | Diao | ever |
| 07:45.07 | Kalman| | Diao: Melee doesn't have a base miss. |
| 07:45.08 | art3mis | yeah |
| 07:45.09 | Kalman| | Casters do. |
| 07:45.12 | Gokie | for melee there isn't, for casters there is |
| 07:45.18 | art3mis | i keep thinking "hey i should farm some primals" |
| 07:45.20 | Mikk | Ah ok. Cheers for clearing that up =) |
| 07:45.28 | kbh | and get spellstrike hood/pants |
| 07:45.28 | Diao | that's what i thought :P |
| 07:45.31 | art3mis | which is followed by "dear god i hate farming primals" |
| 07:45.42 | Gokie | lol, I know what you mean |
| 07:45.47 | Mikk | farm money, buy primals =P |
| 07:45.53 | art3mis | hell ive avoided every kara run except 1 and about 98% of all the heroics our guild does constantly |
| 07:45.55 | Mikk | framing primals is much too frustrtating |
| 07:45.57 | kbh | haha thats what i do |
| 07:46.01 | art3mis | and we're the top guild of the server horde side ;P |
| 07:46.13 | Gokie | after farming enough primals to make entire shadoweave set, girdle of ruination, and enough spellcloth to make spellstrike if I so choose, I never want to see another fire elemental again |
| 07:46.17 | Kalman| | Mikk: No one is farming primals anymore, prices keep going up, I'm gonna have to start farming them just to have the ones I need. |
| 07:46.31 | Gokie | I'd probably kill myself if I went into MC again |
| 07:46.33 | Kalman| | Gokie: Try doing it twice! |
| 07:46.39 | kbh | but you need primal fire/water for the 15 damage bracer enchant! |
| 07:46.55 | art3mis | hehe thats another thing i should raise |
| 07:46.59 | NightHawkTheSane | primal waters arnt too hard to get. fire and air are the pain in the ass ones. |
| 07:47.03 | art3mis | my chanting is at what 345? |
| 07:47.11 | Mikk | A friend of mine just discovered xmute shadow -> water >.< |
| 07:47.15 | Mikk | Bastard |
| 07:47.19 | Gokie | I actually am doing it again... I'm (slowly) leveling my mage, and have to make the stuff to craft spellstrike and spellfire >< |
| 07:47.19 | kbh | wow |
| 07:47.19 | art3mis | and ive got like 4 formulas in my bank for 360 |
| 07:48.04 | art3mis | im just soooo lazy |
| 07:48.04 | ckknight | any Frenchies about? |
| 07:48.04 | kbh | i bought exalted scryer |
| 07:48.04 | art3mis | depends what ya need |
| 07:48.04 | Kalman| | Gokie: Vice-versa. I just finished leveling my spriest and have to finish my spellstrike and fsw chest. |
| 07:48.04 | art3mis | my french is so-so |
| 07:48.40 | art3mis | mikk: whats the cooldown on that? |
| 07:48.49 | Mikk | 23h |
| 07:48.56 | art3mis | thats not too bad |
| 07:48.57 | Gokie | Frozen Shadoweave honestly isn't that bad... I got all the primal waters I needed for all 3 pieces in 2 days |
| 07:49.00 | Elkano | hm, maxybe he wants to beat them up? ;) |
| 07:49.03 | ckknight | I need the GlobalStrings for frFR |
| 07:49.20 | art3mis | oh that i cant help you with |
| 07:49.25 | Mikk | Gokie: Glad to hear it. My priest is on his way up :S |
| 07:49.38 | art3mis | curse has lots of french addons though just go steal em from there ;P |
| 07:49.45 | Kalman| | Mikk: He's lying to you, you'll want to claw your eyes out! :p |
| 07:49.55 | Mikk | hahaha |
| 07:50.02 | Mikk | well |
| 07:50.03 | Gokie | Mikk: I did it before 2.1 though, and got the majority of the primal waters from Skettis |
| 07:50.12 | Gokie | so I don't know if it's still a good place to get them now with the new quests |
| 07:50.12 | Mikk | my gf's mage is on its way up too... and she's going fire/arcane in the end |
| 07:50.14 | Mikk | huhu |
| 07:50.19 | kbh | fish for primal water ftw |
| 07:50.28 | Gokie | fishing is a great way to get them |
| 07:50.34 | Gokie | just not when you need 30 in 2 days =P |
| 07:50.42 | kbh | so fast, i can farm 2 in under 10 minutes |
| 07:50.43 | Mikk | hehe |
| 07:50.56 | Mikk | aye but how long did you sit around sklling fishing? :S |
| 07:51.09 | kbh | i do it waiting for raids and groups |
| 07:51.09 | Mikk | i'm stuck at like 280 and just cba to get it up |
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| 07:51.16 | kbh | in front of kara/coilfang |
| 07:51.39 | Kalman| | I've never gotten fishing past like 90. :/ |
| 07:51.53 | kbh | fishing skills are determined by number of fish caught, not the zone you catch them in |
| 07:52.03 | kbh | so you gan get to 375 in org/stormwind |
| 07:52.14 | Mikk | heh, 90 is fast |
| 07:52.18 | Mikk | you still get 1 skill per fish down there |
| 07:52.25 | Mikk | it's like 10 fish per skill later :S |
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| 07:52.41 | kbh | yep, over 300 its about 10 - 11 catches per skillup |
| 07:53.17 | Mikk | So that's .. umm... 750 fish to get 300-375 |
| 07:53.26 | kbh | yep |
| 07:53.28 | Mikk | times.. what.. 15 secs on average.. plus change.. call it 20 |
| 07:53.33 | Mikk | 15000 seconds |
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| 07:53.39 | Mikk | 4+ hours |
| 07:53.41 | Mikk | ok not too bad |
| 07:53.44 | kbh | you will always get a bite every 20 seconds, garunteed |
| 07:53.54 | Gothtar | thats a whole lot of doing nothing |
| 07:54.02 | NightHawkTheSane | 'guaranteed' |
| 07:54.04 | Mikk | yeah but you apply lures, loot, etc ... |
| 07:54.11 | kbh | plus if you just fish for the 10 minutes in front of kara or a dungeon while waiting for groupies |
| 07:54.15 | Mikk | and i meant pre 2.1 |
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| 07:54.23 | kbh | you can fish up ore, incredible buffs |
| 07:54.36 | Gothtar | huh |
| 07:54.38 | kbh | a magical crawdad |
| 07:54.43 | Gothtar | but rarely |
| 07:55.00 | kbh | buffs like 30 stam, 23 spell damage, +40 to healing with spirit |
| 07:55.01 | art3mis | they put neat thigns in thelake by kara? |
| 07:55.10 | kbh | no, just regular azeroth fish |
| 07:55.11 | Gokie | the magical crawdad was the whole reason I leveled fishing to 375 |
| 07:55.18 | kbh | me too lol |
| 07:55.18 | Gokie | needless to say it hasn't paid off yet |
| 07:55.26 | kbh | i think its fun |
| 07:55.33 | art3mis | i love my goldscale vendorfish |
| 07:55.42 | Gokie | those are definitely nice =) |
| 07:55.44 | kbh | oh the vendorfish rule |
| 07:55.49 | kbh | 6g baby! |
| 07:55.57 | art3mis | and they ahve the best name ;P |
| 07:56.01 | kbh | haha yeah |
| 07:56.16 | kbh | i like the figluster mudfish icon lol |
| 07:56.18 | art3mis | welp off to bed for me lates |
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| 08:05.36 | LePeR|Jaunia | anyone know of a characterinfo replacement? |
| 08:05.47 | kbh | what does it do/ |
| 08:06.06 | LePeR|Jaunia | something that displays what alt has a specific item your highlighting |
| 08:06.15 | LePeR|Jaunia | just keeps track of items on alts |
| 08:06.27 | Diao | why would you need a replacement for it? |
| 08:06.42 | Arrowmaster | nice, the /mountspecial for netherdrakes rocks |
| 08:06.43 | kbh | i would suggest sanity2 but its broken right now lol |
| 08:06.44 | LePeR|Jaunia | want to get rid of tradeskillinfo |
| 08:08.15 | LePeR|Jaunia | Mendeleev and tradeskillinfo pretty much have the same options.. but tradeskillinfo requires characterinfo to display what items you have on your alts |
| 08:09.31 | LePeR|Jaunia | anyone tryed itemsync? |
| 08:09.50 | LePeR|Jaunia | err |
| 08:10.54 | LePeR|Jaunia | think the one im thinking of is bagsync |
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| 08:14.52 | gold2 | /focus [modifier=ctrl] then /cast [target=focus] Polymorph is that the right macro for setting focus and sheeping with Ctrl+hotkey, then just hotkey to cast polymorph on focus again? |
| 08:16.29 | Iceroth | well does it work? |
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| 08:18.04 | abbat_w | ò âñåì |
| 08:18.06 | abbat_w | oops |
| 08:18.08 | abbat_w | hi guys |
| 08:18.14 | Iceroth | a common typo. |
| 08:18.32 | LePeR|Jaunia | isn't it [modifier:ctrl] instead of = |
| 08:18.41 | ilifin | it is |
| 08:18.57 | gold2 | ah ok thx a lot :D |
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| 08:19.00 | thescorp | Morning. |
| 08:20.17 | evl | [Ammo]: I'm in ur bigwigs stealing ur anchor code, mkay? |
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| 08:22.56 | thescorp | Any idea if there is any RP addons running Ace? Like FlagRSP and ImmersionRP? |
| 08:23.37 | omega_ | what is an RP addon? |
| 08:23.42 | omega_ | it does the roleplaying for you? |
| 08:24.06 | Iceroth | puts on the robe and wizard hat for you? |
| 08:24.18 | thescorp | Basicly, yes. |
| 08:24.20 | abbat_w | =))))) |
| 08:24.32 | omega_ | hehe |
| 08:24.35 | thescorp | Not, but it allows for users to make a short description of their characters and such. |
| 08:24.41 | thescorp | not = no. |
| 08:24.50 | omega_ | so it takes the roleplaying out of roleplaying? :p |
| 08:25.03 | thescorp | No, it adds another level to roleplaying. |
| 08:25.29 | thescorp | Adding scars and such that other players can "see" through the description and start rping based on that. |
| 08:25.37 | omega_ | aha |
| 08:26.17 | thescorp | Personally, I dont use it. But I got asked to find one, so here I am :/ |
| 08:26.36 | abbat_w | hmm... thescorp, you mean it's game into game? You play WoW but also play in RP? |
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| 08:26.59 | ckknight | TheScorp: I had an idea to make one of those once, but was discouraged |
| 08:27.11 | thescorp | ckknight: Sorry to hear that. |
| 08:27.29 | ckknight | main issue is that other RP mods had too much of the market, too hard to break in |
| 08:27.36 | ckknight | also, I lost interest |
| 08:27.44 | thescorp | I think a lot of the people on RP servers would like Ace addons doing what the memory eating ones do. |
| 08:28.07 | ckknight | rophy2: ping |
| 08:28.09 | Iceroth | any ace devs plays in an rp server?) |
| 08:28.27 | thescorp | But I guess that means that there are none. |
| 08:29.09 | kbh | whatever happened to that holdem poker mod? it still work? |
| 08:29.27 | thescorp | ah, good old MC days. |
| 08:29.32 | ckknight | Iceroth: used to, but my brother started playing on a normal server, so I switched |
| 08:29.34 | kbh | and god dammit why does my resolution get stuck at 800x600 every time i start my game |
| 08:29.37 | thescorp | And sitting in orgrimmar betting with gold :> |
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| 08:29.54 | thescorp | kbh : Try changing it in the config file? I had the same problem. |
| 08:30.10 | kbh | roller baby, under 60 you loose, over 60 you get double money |
| 08:30.39 | thescorp | Not as fun as a good round of texas holdem :p |
| 08:30.51 | thescorp | I earned about 2000 gold on poker before tbc :p |
| 08:30.51 | kbh | no, not as good |
| 08:31.07 | Silviu- | Bugs |
| 08:31.07 | Silviu- | - Fixed a crash in the client. |
| 08:31.09 | Silviu- | Oh nice |
| 08:31.10 | Silviu- | :) |
| 08:31.20 | doktoreas | is there a sort of ratingbuster for ace? |
| 08:31.26 | kbh | how would i set my resolution manually in config? |
| 08:31.26 | gold2 | Anyone know if Recount will filter out mobs in the future? |
| 08:31.31 | gold2 | RatingBuster IS ace2 |
| 08:31.32 | ZealotOnAStick | heh. |
| 08:31.36 | kbh | isnt ratingsbuster an ace mod? |
| 08:31.44 | NightHawkTheSane | yes, although a pretty poorly done one. |
| 08:31.48 | thescorp | Say, has any of you had some problem with FPS drop? |
| 08:31.56 | thescorp | after 2.1? |
| 08:32.09 | ZealotOnAStick | thescorp: do you have addon profiling on? |
| 08:32.29 | gold2 | Is it possible to increase the scanrange and accuracy of Recount? |
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| 08:32.57 | thescorp | ZealotOnAStick : I have the FPS trouble even without addons, but I dont think i have addon profiling on. |
| 08:33.02 | thescorp | How can I check that? |
| 08:33.15 | thescorp | I went from frigging 50 fps in mags lair to 4 after 2.1 |
| 08:33.41 | Silviu- | I only "lost" around 5 i think :) |
| 08:34.08 | thescorp | Our warrior MT went from 120 fps to 3 :> |
| 08:34.14 | LePeR|Jaunia | ew |
| 08:34.18 | Silviu- | Lol |
| 08:34.50 | thescorp | Yupp. |
| 08:35.04 | CIA-22 | 03rabbit * r37659 10BigWigs/TheEye/Kaelthas.lua: BigWigs: Kaelthas: Fix 50% trigger. |
| 08:35.18 | gold2 | hmm id love to add HTML Export to Swstats or recount |
| 08:35.19 | thescorp | Kinda makes it hard to know when to use abilities, and when to pot and such when all you see is some movement every three seconds.. |
| 08:35.22 | LePeR|Jaunia | download FuBar_Usage |
| 08:35.38 | rophy2 | hi ckknight |
| 08:35.39 | Stephmw | mornin' |
| 08:36.00 | LePeR|Jaunia | maybe cpu profiling got enabled |
| 08:36.24 | thescorp | I`ll try that. |
| 08:37.16 | thescorp | But a quick check on the tech boards tells me that we are not the only ones with this problem. |
| 08:37.45 | thescorp | Another question tho LePeR|Jaunia. CPU profiling should be disabled? |
| 08:37.45 | gold2 | how well does fubar_Voicefu work? |
| 08:37.48 | gold2 | Does it work with ver 2.1 of ventrilo? |
| 08:38.03 | LePeR|Jaunia | yes it should |
| 08:38.11 | LePeR|Jaunia | @thescorp |
| 08:38.14 | LePeR|Jaunia | lol |
| 08:38.28 | ckknight | rophy: I was thinking about SW_FixLogStrings |
| 08:38.36 | thescorp | Thanks, I guess I can do that from Fubar_usage then? |
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| 08:38.40 | LePeR|Jaunia | yea |
| 08:38.47 | rophy | got some ideas? |
| 08:38.51 | ckknight | yes. |
| 08:39.02 | thescorp | Hyst asked our warrior, and he has CPU profiling is on. Lets see if it helps disabling it :) |
| 08:39.04 | ckknight | I implemented it in Parser-3.0, but not sure if I should commit |
| 08:39.09 | rophy | if possible, I think it shouldn't embeded in the parser itself though. |
| 08:39.12 | NightHawkTheSane | yeesh, even the omen thread on ej has started turning into a ktm vs the world drama fest. |
| 08:39.26 | rophy | should be an optional addon which user can choose if they want to use or not. |
| 08:39.28 | ckknight | rophy: but that defeats the purpos |
| 08:39.32 | ckknight | purpose* |
| 08:39.44 | thescorp | LePeR|Jaunia: Seems he activated it after the FPS problems occured tho. |
| 08:39.46 | ckknight | I don't see why the user should choose, personally |
| 08:39.53 | ckknight | users r dum |
| 08:39.57 | rophy | because SW_FixLogStrings break other addons. |
| 08:39.58 | LePeR|Jaunia | i do know i lag to hell with it enabled |
| 08:40.03 | gold2 | Im looking forward to the ACE2 Threatmeter someone mentioned |
| 08:40.10 | gold2 | if the threatlib is more accurate than KTM |
| 08:40.13 | rophy | users should at least choose between more accurate data but risk breaking other addons or not. |
| 08:40.16 | gold2 | i might actually be able to convince my guild to use it |
| 08:40.54 | ckknight | rophy: how does it break em? |
| 08:40.54 | rophy | that's what I suggested to author of SWStats, SW_FixLogStrings was embedded n SWParser before that. |
| 08:40.54 | Silviu- | gold2 i`m looking forward to see compatibility between KTM and Threat ;p |
| 08:40.55 | rophy | if an addon reads GlobalStrings before SW_FixLogStrings, then SW_FixLogStrings modifed it |
| 08:41.04 | ckknight | also, SW_FixLogStrings is not the best, imho, it can be improved |
| 08:41.05 | gold2 | Silviu- =)? Meaning you think it's very inaccurate ? =D |
| 08:41.16 | ckknight | rophy: hrm, which is rather lame... |
| 08:41.17 | rophy | then the addon will try to parse pre-modified pattern |
| 08:41.32 | Silviu- | gold2 no, sync with eachother because i think i can`t make my guild use it ^^ |
| 08:41.39 | Silviu- | Or at least not all |
| 08:41.45 | rophy | i think it can be improved too, but the idea is not to have 2 codes doing the same thing, since they break each other. |
| 08:41.48 | ckknight | rophy: why doesn't blizz just do it properly :-( |
| 08:41.49 | gold2 | So to you guys that write addons, how hard would it be for someone to modify SWStats to add HTML export of the SW Log (/Swl) and also DPS and spells used by everyone? |
| 08:41.56 | rophy | ckknight: ask blizzard :p |
| 08:41.57 | gold2 | I never looked at the WOW Lua |
| 08:42.03 | ckknight | rophy: actually if mine is run first, it doesn't affect his. if his is run first, it doesn't affect mine |
| 08:42.11 | ckknight | due to the way things work |
| 08:42.18 | ckknight | it just causes the strings to be unique |
| 08:42.40 | ckknight | mine does the same thing as his does, only slightly more efficiently |
| 08:42.47 | [Ammo] | Silviu-: Threat-1.0 already reads KTM data, and sends it too I think. |
| 08:42.47 | rophy | I dunno what you did in parser-3.0, but it breaks the original parser3-.0 |
| 08:42.55 | ckknight | 1.1? |
| 08:43.08 | rophy | 1.1 luckily avoided the problem by the side effect of Lod patterns |
| 08:43.18 | ckknight | what broke? |
| 08:43.23 | rophy | e.g.... |
| 08:43.24 | Silviu- | [Ammo] omg yes ? |
| 08:43.26 | ckknight | Lod patterns? |
| 08:43.29 | kbh | wait wait wait, i can run threat-1.0 and remove ktm without making all my peers switch over? |
| 08:43.34 | Silviu- | [Ammo] when was added ? ;P |
| 08:43.39 | [Ammo] | days ago |
| 08:43.41 | [Ammo] | dunno |
| 08:43.43 | CIA-22 | 03evl * r37660 10Hourglass/ (. Forecast.toc Hourglass.toc core.lua): |
| 08:43.43 | CIA-22 | Hourglass: |
| 08:43.43 | CIA-22 | - Completed rename operation |
| 08:43.43 | CIA-22 | - Drycoded movable anchor, probably broken |
| 08:43.46 | ckknight | kbh: that's the plan |
| 08:43.53 | kbh | oh snap i cannot wait |
| 08:43.59 | rophy | 1. parser reads HITOTHEROTHER and convert to regEx, 2. SW_FixLogStrings change HITOTHEROTHER, 3. parser try to parse combat log with original modified regEx. |
| 08:44.00 | boobies4u | ckknight, is the av map in cartographer working yet? |
| 08:44.00 | gold2 | how does threat-1.0 look? Any screens ? |
| 08:44.08 | ckknight | boobies4u: I dunno |
| 08:44.12 | boobies4u | kk |
| 08:44.12 | ckknight | gold2: it's a library |
| 08:44.21 | gold2 | oh! :D |
| 08:44.24 | [Ammo] | currently there is 2 frontends |
| 08:44.25 | boobies4u | ~spank |
| 08:44.36 | [Ammo] | 1. Omen 2. Violation |
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| 08:44.40 | ckknight | rophy: oh, right. But if Parser-3.0 fixes it first, then no issue ;-) |
| 08:45.11 | rophy | the problem remains, modifying combat logs break other addons if they're loaded before the modification. |
| 08:45.12 | ZealotOnAStick | evl: Sorry about the grief you took for "Forecast". I didn't know it was a "very well known" (sha) mod already existant. |
| 08:45.18 | gold2 | I guess i should pickup some mod documentation and dig into it |
| 08:45.22 | ckknight | rophy: btw, I got it so that Parser-3.0 is no longer destructive to Parser-1.1, all good with upgrading and all |
| 08:45.24 | gold2 | see if i cant learn the modding of WOW |
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| 08:45.33 | ckknight | rophy: um... pray for the best? |
| 08:45.34 | evl | Doesn't matter :P |
| 08:45.43 | evl | I wasn't planning on putting it on SVN |
| 08:45.46 | evl | but I got hassle for that too |
| 08:45.49 | vhaarr | ~framexml |
| 08:45.59 | purl | get the official Blizzard Interface AddOn Kit here: http://www.blizzard.com/support/wow/?id=aww01671p or view it online at http://wdn.wowinterface.com/ |
| 08:45.59 | ckknight | gold2: there's some good tutorials out there |
| 08:45.59 | evl | Can't somebody just once in a while just LIKE me |
| 08:46.01 | [Ammo] | rophy: you know how SW_FixLog fixes the strings |
| 08:46.04 | gold2 | Never touched LUA before |
| 08:46.05 | thescorp | *replaces ktm with omen* |
| 08:46.05 | [Ammo] | so you can revert that change |
| 08:46.08 | rophy | ckknight: that's what the current SWStats do, and so while benefits to fix the combat log, it's prbably better to be optional |
| 08:46.19 | NightHawkTheSane | evl: you will always, always be hassled, regarldess of what you do. |
| 08:46.20 | evl | So when is someone going to remake CandyBar+ :D |
| 08:46.20 | gold2 | can't be that much different from others |
| 08:46.39 | [Ammo] | evl: why? oh why |
| 08:46.53 | rophy | [Ammo]: I can explictly look at how SW_FixLog changes it and revert it, but then it loses the effect for fixing it in the first place, also SWSTats will break by doing that. |
| 08:47.17 | evl | Dunno I just saw stuff like ClassTimers not using it so it might miss some features? |
| 08:47.18 | ckknight | rophy: I still think it'd be a better idea to put some kind of fixer into Parser-3.0 (and potentially 1.1) |
| 08:47.31 | boobies4u | it turns me on when you boys talk geeky |
| 08:47.39 | boobies4u | all this deep computer science talk |
| 08:47.40 | rophy | ckknight: but what's disadvantage for making this part optional? |
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| 08:47.47 | Leialyn | swstats should use parser3.0 ^^ |
| 08:47.48 | gold2 | What is forecast? |
| 08:47.50 | ckknight | rophy: requirement of another addon |
| 08:47.59 | rophy | ckknight: it doesnt have to be an addon, it can be embedded. |
| 08:47.59 | NightHawkTheSane | boobies4u: i know that's totally why i'm here. |
| 08:48.14 | ckknight | rophy: then how does the user say whether they want it or not? |
| 08:48.23 | ckknight | Leialyn: probably not a bad idea, but I doubt the author would go for it |
| 08:48.33 | Leialyn | hehe think so |
| 08:48.47 | rophy | ckknight: user can simply remove the embedded fixLog library? |
| 08:48.48 | ckknight | granted, it'd probably make his life easier |
| 08:48.53 | Leialyn | but the best would be that all "combatlog parsing addons" use one central parser |
| 08:48.56 | [Ammo] | evl: he doesn't use it because he doesn't understand how to use it |
| 08:49.06 | ckknight | rophy: I don't want to deal with another dependency, also, users r dum, as I previously stated |
| 08:49.14 | evl | [Ammo]: Yeha, I hate that it doesn't have a spark :( |
| 08:49.32 | [Ammo] | evl: he had to keep a local list of bars in a group, and decided to just reimplement all the bars |
| 08:49.43 | ckknight | rophy: and with embeds, the user may have to remove multiple fixLog libraries |
| 08:49.47 | [Ammo] | evl: I asked what was missing, he said: meh, I just had to blah blah blah |
| 08:49.49 | boobies4u | all you need is dogchow |
| 08:49.55 | rophy | ckknight: ignoring what users think, I think parser itself shouldn't modify combat log, fixing it should be another layer below the parser. |
| 08:50.00 | [Ammo] | nothing was missing from candy, it's just coder error |
| 08:50.01 | evl | [Ammoo]: I just asked you remember for Hourglass and you said: CandyBar.handlers[groupName].bars, works perfectly! |
| 08:50.12 | [Ammo] | evl: yeah |
| 08:50.17 | ckknight | rophy: what layer is that? |
| 08:50.26 | rophy | ckknight: there was a combat log addon in ace long time ago, i forgot the name, which directly reformats the combat log, and so no parsing is required |
| 08:50.38 | [Ammo] | AceHits or something wasn't it |
| 08:50.38 | rophy | and the user responses werent very good, since it breaks anything else which parse things. |
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| 08:50.45 | ckknight | interesting idea, I remember that |
| 08:51.02 | rophy | modifying combat log should be taken very carefully, or we end up being another AceHits. |
| 08:51.10 | ckknight | AceHits? |
| 08:51.18 | rophy | [Ammo] said it was AceHits? |
| 08:51.19 | ckknight | that was the name? |
| 08:51.26 | ckknight | ah, I see |
| 08:51.34 | [Ammo] | I think so |
| 08:51.36 | [Ammo] | haha |
| 08:51.44 | Stephmw | who's [Ammo] anyway? |
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| 08:52.01 | [Ammo] | ~Ammo |
| 08:52.11 | [Ammo] | I don't exist! |
| 08:52.11 | [Ammo] | yay |
| 08:52.11 | Ominous | is [Ammo] and [Ammoo] different people |
| 08:52.25 | [Ammo] | no |
| 08:52.34 | [Ammo] | it's me on a different machine |
| 08:52.35 | evl | Well one of them ends with Moo |
| 08:52.42 | [Ammo] | it's my horde alt! |
| 08:52.49 | Ominous | horde FTW |
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| 08:52.55 | Melisandre | hi |
| 08:52.56 | Melisandre | erm |
| 08:53.09 | pb_ee1 | Did anyone notice a bug with XRS? |
| 08:53.11 | Melisandre | i am a big big big noob... but is something going on with autobar? |
| 08:53.23 | pb_ee1 | When I try to add/remove a buff button, it bugs completely |
| 08:53.25 | Melisandre | if i enable it my wow crashes whe ni log my chat |
| 08:53.27 | ckknight | Stephmw: he's just some homeless guy I think |
| 08:53.38 | Melisandre | char* |
| 08:53.41 | pb_ee1 | I need to /reloadui to get the thing work |
| 08:54.03 | Stephmw | ckknight: "WowAce, where everybody knows your name"... |
| 08:54.18 | Melisandre | ... |
| 08:54.29 | CIA-22 | 03nymbia * r37661 10Manufac/ (8 files): |
| 08:54.29 | CIA-22 | Manufac: |
| 08:54.29 | CIA-22 | - Update defaults for Alchemy, Blacksmithing, Cooking, Engineering, Jewelcrafting. |
| 08:54.29 | CIA-22 | - Leatherworking and Tailoring coming soon (but too damn big to do tonight!) |
| 08:54.31 | NightHawkTheSane | ... they do? >.> Are they stalking me? Are you outside my window.. right.. now?!? |
| 08:54.39 | nymbia | NightHawkTheSane: i know i am |
| 08:54.42 | ckknight | it's time for Cheers |
| 08:54.47 | ckknight | Sam and Diane |
| 08:54.50 | kbh | this resolution bug is killing me!! |
| 08:54.51 | ckknight | Norm Peterson |
| 08:54.51 | ckknight | The Coach |
| 08:54.54 | NightHawkTheSane | nymbia: ... that's damn impressive. I live on the third floor. |
| 08:54.55 | ckknight | then, after he died, Woody |
| 08:55.00 | ckknight | I don't have a TV anymore |
| 08:55.06 | ckknight | but the shows in my mind are almost always better |
| 08:55.10 | kbh | anyone else having hell trying to keep their game from running at 800x600? |
| 08:55.15 | nymbia | NightHawkTheSane: it's worth it. |
| 08:55.18 | Melisandre | meh.. what the hell did u guys drink at night? :) |
| 08:55.21 | nymbia | NightHawkTheSane: ;) |
| 08:55.22 | NightHawkTheSane | nymbia: oh, you know it. :D |
| 08:55.41 | pb_ee1 | kbh: Nope, playing in 1280x800 :-P |
| 08:55.48 | NightHawkTheSane | nymbia: what, you think i walk around my apartment nude for my own benefit? ;) |
| 08:56.01 | nymbia | NightHawkTheSane: seriously |
| 08:56.03 | cryogen | kbh: tried deleting your config file, logging in, changing res and immedietly logging out? |
| 08:56.09 | kbh | yes |
| 08:56.12 | pb_ee1 | ~seen xuerian |
| 08:56.48 | purl | xuerian <n=core@wireless-216-222-129-181.citizip.com> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 1d 11h 15m 42s ago, saying: 'Why not "You won [item]!" >_L<'. |
| 08:56.48 | abbat_w | =))) |
| 08:56.48 | abbat_w | for you own benefit? :) |
| 08:56.48 | kbh | i tried editing my config.wtf to no avail too |
| 08:56.48 | cryogen | weird |
| 08:56.56 | kbh | i have to change the res in game, then do a /console reloadui |
| 08:57.17 | kbh | so it isnt all streched out on my widescreen |
| 08:58.08 | kbh | my setup is quite peticular tho, dualdisplay with the game on fullscreen overlay mode on my widescreen monitor |
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| 08:59.24 | rophy | ckknight: http://ace.pastey.net/45382 |
| 08:59.34 | cryogen | i've run with a similar setup (though my secondary monitor is widescreen not my primary one) with no problems |
| 08:59.43 | cryogen | (apart from it being incredibly slow because vista sucks) |
| 08:59.49 | rophy | ckknight that is the fundemental problem for fixing combat logs, may be you got some ideas? |
| 09:00.33 | ckknight | rophy: I have ideas |
| 09:00.46 | ckknight | rophy: we fix it ASAP, before anyone else, or someone else fixes it before we do |
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| 09:01.24 | rophy | ckknight: even if Parser-3.0 try to fix it before anyone else, if someone loads SW_FixLogStrings, it breaks Parser-3.0 again. |
| 09:01.32 | [Ammo] | you can detect changed strings right if you keep the correct ones in a list |
| 09:01.38 | [Ammo] | (yes that means harcoded) |
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| 09:02.09 | rophy | [Ammo]: yes, but we dunno if anyone else got the pre-modified strings or post-modified strings. |
| 09:02.20 | ckknight | blast |
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| 09:02.23 | ckknight | hey ag` |
| 09:02.26 | [Ammo] | you only have control over your own addons |
| 09:02.31 | [Ammo] | or your own code rather |
| 09:02.42 | Melisandre | anyone having problems with autobar? |
| 09:02.50 | rophy | [Ammo]: but that *breaks* other addons, which an addon never should. |
| 09:03.14 | [Ammo] | I say start at the root, and have a public hanging of the SWS author then |
| 09:03.37 | [Ammo] | with a good riot before ofcourse |
| 09:03.49 | Leialyn | hehe ^^ |
| 09:04.16 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r37662 10Parser-3.0/Parser-3.0/Parser-3.0.lua: |
| 09:04.16 | CIA-22 | Parser-3.0 - add in a fix global string implementation, currently disabled due to political reasons. |
| 09:04.16 | CIA-22 | - instead of converting %s patterns to (.+), convert to (..-), which should solve issues with the Germans. |
| 09:04.17 | [Ammo] | it touches the globals, it's at fault |
| 09:04.37 | rophy | [Ammo]: that's what I was asking for actually, ask the SWStats author to do something together. |
| 09:05.12 | ckknight | oh crap, that'll break things |
| 09:05.22 | [Ammo] | the other even better option is to urge blizzard to change their globals |
| 09:05.26 | [Ammo] | :) |
| 09:05.45 | rophy | the whole combat log parsing though is stupid in the first place |
| 09:05.52 | rophy | s/though/thing/ |
| 09:06.13 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r37663 10Parser-3.0/Parser-3.0/Parser-3.0.lua: Parser-3.0 - remove asserts when the fix string dealy isn't run. |
| 09:06.13 | ckknight | yea, pretty true |
| 09:06.14 | rophy | even though I was the one to write it. |
| 09:13.15 | pb_ee1 | What is the new option *Upgrade Settings* in WowAceUpdater? |
| 09:14.02 | Antiarc|Sleeps | Guys, want to see some hilarity? |
| 09:14.11 | [Ammo] | Antiarc|Sleeps: saw that patch from Jerry? |
| 09:14.20 | Antiarc|Sleeps | http://elitistjerks.com/showthread.php?t=12432&page=2 Start reading at post 47 |
| 09:14.21 | [Ammo] | Threat-1.0 review |
| 09:14.24 | Antiarc|Sleeps | [Ammo] Not yet, what is it? |
| 09:14.30 | [Ammo] | he fixed some stuff |
| 09:14.33 | [Ammo] | looks good |
| 09:14.39 | [Ammo] | http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=6421.0 |
| 09:14.40 | Antiarc|Sleeps | Pulling down an update now |
| 09:14.46 | NightHawkTheSane | Antiarc|Sleeps: lol, I saw that a while ago, I had to laguh |
| 09:15.00 | Antiarc|Sleeps | Ooh, awesome. |
| 09:15.09 | Antiarc|Sleeps | I'll audit and commit it tomorrow if all looks good |
| 09:15.14 | Antiarc|Sleeps | All were things on my list to look at :) |
| 09:15.23 | Antiarc|Sleeps | Hey guys |
| 09:15.34 | Antiarc|Sleeps | Event driven systems are more inefficient than polling systems for dagger rogues |
| 09:15.39 | Antiarc|Sleeps | Because dagger rogues attack fast |
| 09:15.42 | Antiarc|Sleeps | :V :V :V :V |
| 09:16.01 | ckknight | Antiarc|Sleeps: buckets! |
| 09:16.18 | nymbia | that's amazing |
| 09:16.45 | Antiarc|Sleeps | Also, KTM only updates once every 5 seconds |
| 09:17.00 | Antiarc|Sleeps | And doesn't run any code for all the frames between those 5 seconds |
| 09:17.06 | Antiarc|Sleeps | And magically picks up all the events in between. |
| 09:17.24 | Mikk | "buckets" |
| 09:17.31 | ckknight | buckets! |
| 09:17.43 | ckknight | Antiarc|Sleeps: you do understand how buckets work, right? |
| 09:17.54 | Antiarc|Sleeps | ckknight: Yes |
| 09:17.59 | Antiarc|Sleeps | I am being heavily sarcastic. |
| 09:18.03 | ckknight | oh. |
| 09:18.08 | Antiarc|Sleeps | Read the EJ threat I posted |
| 09:18.35 | Antiarc|Sleeps | Some guy is contending that polling is more efficient than event systems because dagger rogues attack fast and that's an event like every 1.3 seconds as opposed to just polling every 5 seconds. |
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| 09:18.52 | Antiarc|Sleeps | Meanwhile, I'm over here slamming my head into my desk. |
| 09:19.00 | Mikk | poll what exactly? |
| 09:19.16 | Mikk | it's not like you can poll for how much damage you've done over the past 5 seconds |
| 09:19.19 | Mikk | without processing events |
| 09:20.40 | Mikk | yeah ok he's a dumbass =P |
| 09:20.51 | CIA-22 | 03rabbit * r37664 10Violation/Violation.lua: Violation: Hide disabled data modules instead of disabling them. |
| 09:21.14 | Daemona | mo m g |
| 09:21.27 | Daemona | i just had the greatest reproducable bug in wow ever |
| 09:21.53 | Daemona | jumpon your mount, fly from shattrath to netherwing ledge being up as high as possible |
| 09:21.55 | ckknight | what's that? |
| 09:22.04 | ckknight | Daemona: and? |
| 09:22.07 | Daemona | at the instance you change to orc + netherwing you are dismounted and not remounted |
| 09:22.10 | Daemona | and fall to death |
| 09:22.17 | ckknight | that depends |
| 09:22.23 | ckknight | my sister-in-law has a similar bug |
| 09:22.35 | ckknight | she dismounts, her pet is summoned, remounts, pet falls to death |
| 09:22.37 | abbat_w | daemona |
| 09:22.40 | ckknight | same point |
| 09:22.48 | abbat_w | i try to reproduce this bug about 100 times |
| 09:22.48 | ckknight | apparently it's being worked on |
| 09:22.55 | Daemona | not to mention, since my eu-server is online again, outlands are crashing every 3 minutes |
| 09:23.08 | abbat_w | But it's not 100% guarantee what you save netherdrake |
| 09:23.17 | abbat_w | Sometimes you save it, sometimes no |
| 09:23.51 | abbat_w | hmm... |
| 09:24.04 | abbat_w | ckk, what is it, 'sister-in-law'? what this mean? |
| 09:24.18 | Daemona | the sister of your wife ;) |
| 09:25.47 | NightHawkTheSane | sister of your spouse, to be sure, as it applies to both sexes :P |
| 09:25.47 | abbat_w | ah ;) |
| 09:25.47 | nymbia | or sibling's spouse |
| 09:25.59 | nymbia | or sibling's spouse's sibling |
| 09:26.04 | Stephmw | NightHawkTheSane: 'spouse' is uncessary as there are no women on the 'net |
| 09:26.08 | ckknight | abbat_w: brother's wife |
| 09:26.08 | ckknight | also could mean wife's sister |
| 09:26.09 | ckknight | either way, it represents the new family as added by a marriage |
| 09:26.19 | Stephmw | NightHawkTheSane: as the voip addition to wow will soon prove |
| 09:26.30 | NightHawkTheSane | Stephmw: oh, of course not. I'm just speaking in the general sense :) |
| 09:26.40 | ckknight | sibling's spouse's sibling is typically not referred to often as the sister-in-law, but can be |
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| 09:27.21 | ckknight | Stephmw: there's no official response that they will actually implement it, just that there are ideas floating around for that |
| 09:27.43 | CIA-22 | 03rabbit * r37665 10Violation/Violation.lua: Violation: Don't create a new anon function every time we update the tooltip. |
| 09:29.30 | Daemona | Todays Hotfixes: Fixed clients crashing on alt+tab. |
| 09:29.36 | Daemona | Server is crashing now instead. |
| 09:29.39 | Daemona | \o/ |
| 09:29.45 | nymbia | yay! |
| 09:29.51 | Silviu- | Daemona yours too ? |
| 09:29.57 | CIA-22 | 03jerry * r37666 10/branches/FixLogStrings/: FixLogStrings: create folder |
| 09:30.01 | Gngsk | vindication ftw |
| 09:30.02 | Daemona | 7th time outlands down since 11am |
| 09:30.04 | kbh | i'm making my config.wtf read only |
| 09:30.05 | Athou | world server is down :( |
| 09:30.17 | kbh | maybe that will fix my problem |
| 09:30.34 | Daemona | kbh i doubt that will fix the world server from crashing -.- |
| 09:30.53 | nymbia | it might! |
| 09:31.13 | ckknight | anything is possible |
| 09:31.16 | ckknight | ...with God |
| 09:31.20 | ckknight | ...or cheese |
| 09:31.22 | nymbia | lol |
| 09:31.24 | ckknight | either/or, really. |
| 09:31.33 | ag` | or emacs |
| 09:31.37 | ckknight | vi ftw |
| 09:31.38 | ckknight | gah! |
| 09:32.12 | ag` | yeah, I've never used emacs |
| 09:32.14 | CIA-22 | 03daviesh * r37667 10AtlasLoot/ (25 files in 12 dirs): (log message trimmed) |
| 09:32.14 | CIA-22 | AtlasLoot: |
| 09:32.14 | CIA-22 | - v3.00.07 |
| 09:32.14 | CIA-22 | - Trad. Chinese Update |
| 09:32.14 | CIA-22 | - Many minor updates and fixes |
| 09:32.16 | CIA-22 | ** PLEASE stop editing files on this SVN. This is NOT the place where my dev |
| 09:32.17 | CIA-22 | code lives, this is release versions and if every man and his dog keeps editing |
| 09:32.19 | ag` | I just wanted to troll |
| 09:32.21 | ckknight | actually I find them both kinda lame, I use TextMate |
| 09:32.33 | CIA-22 | 03jerry 07Jerry * r37668 10FixLogStrings/ (4 files in 2 dirs): FixLogStrings: initial import. Actively remove ambiguities and duplicates log patterns when loaded. |
| 09:32.38 | nymbia | ooh, i wanna see that whole log message |
| 09:32.40 | ckknight | why the fuck does he post to SVN, then? |
| 09:32.44 | ag` | I only use terminal editors when I am without X while configuring Linux |
| 09:32.45 | nymbia | seriously |
| 09:32.45 | Athou | :D |
| 09:33.03 | CIA-22 | 03arkayenro * r37669 10ArkInventory/ (4 files): |
| 09:33.03 | CIA-22 | ArkInventory: |
| 09:33.03 | CIA-22 | - 1.36 |
| 09:33.04 | CIA-22 | 03rabbit * r37670 10Violation/Violation.lua: Violation: Consolidate 3 functions. |
| 09:33.14 | NightHawkTheSane | nymbia: paste it when you find it, i want to know what happens when every man and his dog edits. |
| 09:33.24 | nymbia | yup |
| 09:33.32 | ckknight | NightHawkTheSane: I hope it's raunchy |
| 09:33.37 | NightHawkTheSane | ckknight: me too. |
| 09:33.57 | nymbia | ** PLEASE stop editing files on this SVN. This is NOT the place where my dev code lives, this is release versions and if every man and his dog keeps editing files here it makes it harder for me when I copy the next release version over. If you have something to contribute, do it properly at http://www.atlasloot.net ** |
| 09:33.59 | vhaarr | svn accounts shouldn't be handed out to people who only want to use the SVN for release purposes. |
| 09:34.46 | [Ammo] | yeah |
| 09:34.48 | [Ammo] | remove his account |
| 09:34.51 | [Ammo] | remove his addon |
| 09:35.00 | ag` | :P |
| 09:35.20 | ag` | PITCHFORKS AND TAR |
| 09:35.26 | vhaarr | IT'S ON! |
| 09:35.28 | [Ammo] | public hanging! |
| 09:35.30 | NightHawkTheSane | AGRARIAN REVOLT! |
| 09:35.32 | nymbia | i'll bring the pitchforks |
| 09:35.35 | NightHawkTheSane | rabble rabble rabble! |
| 09:35.38 | [Ammo] | I'll bring some rope |
| 09:35.45 | NightHawkTheSane | I'll bring the rotten fruit. |
| 09:35.55 | vhaarr | So, if daviesh weighs as much as a duck, that means ... ? |
| 09:36.12 | [Ammo] | eastern european or western european duck |
| 09:36.12 | ag` | ahahah vhaarr was about to say "lets check if he floats" |
| 09:36.15 | NightHawkTheSane | it means we'll have to fit him for cement shoes if we intend to drown him? |
| 09:36.16 | vhaarr | haha |
| 09:36.16 | nymbia | BURN HIM! |
| 09:36.21 | vhaarr | A WITCH! |
| 09:36.37 | Daemona | did i mention "outlands down nr9" ? |
| 09:36.41 | Silviu- | [12:33:05] <F'CIA-22> - 1.36 |
| 09:36.46 | Silviu- | Nice "release notes' |
| 09:36.47 | Silviu- | ;p |
| 09:37.34 | vhaarr | ag`: so where's my non-xml aguf? |
| 09:37.55 | [Ammo] | it's delayed until daviesh is properly staked |
| 09:38.15 | ckknight | someone should contact him, though |
| 09:39.48 | nymbia | man |
| 09:39.48 | nymbia | this code |
| 09:39.48 | Lyfe | "do witches float in water?" "no, nope. they float. throw her into the pond!" |
| 09:39.48 | nymbia | is ugly. |
| 09:39.48 | vhaarr | I'm not going to ever fix things on his addon if he doesn't allow direct commits, that's for sure. |
| 09:39.48 | [Ammo] | nymbia opened AtlasLoot? :p |
| 09:39.48 | [Ammo] | it's not even properly Ace2 |
| 09:39.48 | nymbia | AtlasLoot_Dewdrop = AceLibrary("Dewdrop-2.0"); |
| 09:39.48 | nymbia | AtlasLoot_DewdropSubMenu = AceLibrary("Dewdrop-2.0"); |
| 09:39.48 | nymbia | both global |
| 09:39.48 | vhaarr | for our convenience! |
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| 09:39.49 | vhaarr | local dewdrop = AtlasLoot_Dewdrop or AceLibrary("Dewdrop-2.0") |
| 09:39.51 | vhaarr | less function calls ftw |
| 09:39.51 | NightHawkTheSane | *blinks* |
| 09:39.57 | nymbia | hahaha |
| 09:39.57 | [Ammo] | hahaha |
| 09:40.35 | nymbia | he embeds and loads all the core stuff |
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| 09:40.39 | nymbia | then never uses it |
| 09:41.25 | vhaarr | well, for all we know it could be a transitional period |
| 09:41.37 | [Ammo] | if you want to have some fun, do a night on irc where we completely pummel his addon into efficiency |
| 09:41.45 | vhaarr | haha |
| 09:41.54 | LePeR|Jaunia | you guys are cruel lol |
| 09:41.55 | [Ammo] | ofcourse committing as often as possible |
| 09:41.59 | nymbia | lol |
| 09:42.08 | ilifin | "COMBO COUNT: 1" in every commit |
| 09:42.18 | gold2 | on quartz, is it possible to move the "debuff bars"? The ignite/fire vulnerability/polymorph etc bars that appear over the castingbar |
| 09:42.18 | ilifin | increase per pummel |
| 09:42.19 | LePeR|Jaunia | but then again if he could learn something.. its worth it :P |
| 09:42.46 | [Ammo] | gold2: go to debuffs/buffs, go to focus/target, position and set growth |
| 09:42.53 | gold2 | thank you |
| 09:43.04 | [Ammo] | you could hvae seen the option if you actually opened the menu yourself |
| 09:43.18 | ilifin | hard work that, opening menus |
| 09:43.41 | nymbia | those two global definitions? yeah he does those multiple times. |
| 09:44.33 | vhaarr | we could be less cruel and branch before we touch it |
| 09:44.50 | vhaarr | nah, trunk ftw |
| 09:45.24 | nymbia | "I have given up, and just commited the whole lot. Something either you or funkydude did destroyed the externals I had set up. The reason why I have now ditched it and just commited the lot is to keep consistancy with all other AtlasLoot v3.00.x versions out there. I REFUSE to let it branch due to Ace edits, as it causes support headaches for me." |
| 09:45.57 | Laricwork | nymbia where is that from? |
| 09:46.05 | NightHawkTheSane | well now he's just daring you to commit ;) |
| 09:46.08 | nymbia | bah just closed it, one sec |
| 09:46.22 | nymbia | http://www.daviesh.net/atlasloot_enhanced/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=1233 |
| 09:46.49 | abbat_w | heh |
| 09:47.22 | abbat_w | looks like haste have problems with oCB and unauthorized commits to oCB |
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| 09:47.44 | haste | yes, the commits alone was the reason |
| 09:47.58 | nymbia | not the same thing at all, imo |
| 09:48.06 | [Ammo] | you can ask to have it closed as well shrug |
| 09:48.14 | ckknight | anyone know what "thick spanking" is, compared to regular spanking? |
| 09:48.17 | nymbia | this clown's just using it as a release mechanism |
| 09:48.27 | ckknight | Re: http://www.thestraponlesbians.com/280507/jbigtit-lesbo-straponl4.html |
| 09:48.46 | ag` | hmmm |
| 09:49.04 | ag` | I guess it means that the buttchecks wobble for longer |
| 09:49.57 | cryogen | buttchecks? |
| 09:50.02 | cryogen | is that like some new fun currency? |
| 09:50.03 | ZealotOnAStick | if he wants to use it for a release mechanism, he needs to learn about Lock. |
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| 09:50.35 | NightHawkTheSane | ZealotOnAStick: its not a matter of locking it or not. It's a matter that subversion should not be used soley as a release platform. |
| 09:50.35 | ag` | cheeeeeeks |
| 09:51.04 | cryogen | i guess that brings a whole new meaning to the phrase dont cash checks your butt cant cash |
| 09:51.10 | cryogen | s/cash/write/ |
| 09:51.13 | Mikk | http://mikk.cjb.net/temp2.png <- wheeee :-P |
| 09:51.30 | ZealotOnAStick | *shrug* I'll have to reread the SVN rules to see if there's one against it. What Grayhoof does with SCT isn't far removed from that. |
| 09:51.30 | ag` | Anyway he could do away with the long commit disclaimers if he had his stuff protected |
| 09:52.06 | ag` | Mikk: what's that for :D |
| 09:52.25 | Mikk | cladhaire wanted a frame portrait that meant "configuration, tinkering, something" ... |
| 09:52.31 | Mikk | i figure it applies =P |
| 09:52.39 | ag` | :P |
| 09:52.41 | [Ammo] | it certainly does |
| 09:53.51 | ZealotOnAStick | vhaar, you had time to work on NRT any more yet? |
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| 09:54.10 | ZealotOnAStick | grr. I keep missing the second r. |
| 09:54.20 | ZealotOnAStick | laziness would benefit me here. |
| 09:54.21 | vhaarr | ZealotOnAStick: Have you tried the CT XML export that guy added? |
| 09:54.33 | vhaarr | I'm just wondering if I should include it or not |
| 09:54.45 | ZealotOnAStick | I did, it's bugged, remember? |
| 09:54.50 | vhaarr | ah, right |
| 09:54.55 | Laricwork | ckknight are you using osx? |
| 09:54.56 | gold2 | hmm a cool feature for KTM or KTM clone would be warning based on casting spell (eg "This spell will put you at nr1 aggro") =D |
| 09:54.57 | vhaarr | okay let me do it now |
| 09:55.02 | ckknight | Laricwork: yes |
| 09:55.08 | gold2 | couple of our mages could really need that :P |
| 09:55.11 | ZealotOnAStick | Haven't been able to try it, because as soon as an attendance is taken, it bugs about missing some Day reference or something. |
| 09:55.17 | vhaarr | right |
| 09:55.19 | ZealotOnAStick | and then is useless. :/ |
| 09:55.28 | vhaarr | well that's only with the unofficial version |
| 09:55.30 | nymbia | screw letting him protect it. he's trying to expand his userbase by getting his addon on /files, without using the libraries he's using properly, without using any of the core libraries, and without cleaning up his addon at all or letting us clean it up for him |
| 09:55.30 | vhaarr | not my release |
| 09:55.32 | Laricwork | ckknight was gonna have a look at textmate but seeing it be osx only... |
| 09:55.35 | ZealotOnAStick | right. |
| 09:55.46 | vhaarr | nymbia: yep |
| 09:56.03 | ckknight | nymbia: I think someone needs to clearly lay out the concerns |
| 09:56.16 | ckknight | _and_ the steps he could take to allay them |
| 09:56.18 | ZealotOnAStick | Or fix everything mercilessly. ;) |
| 09:56.31 | ckknight | no |
| 09:56.37 | |Kev| | Laricwork: if that was a question about textmate, I use it |
| 09:56.38 | ckknight | that won't accomplish anything |
| 09:56.49 | ZealotOnAStick | probable, but it's more amusing. |
| 09:56.55 | nymbia | i suppose i'll throw a post on his forum, since he obviously doesn't read ours |
| 09:56.56 | Laricwork | |Kev| osx aswell or is there a win32 version? |
| 09:57.08 | Laricwork | |Kev| looking at the features it looks promising |
| 09:57.10 | ckknight | no and there won't be |
| 09:57.11 | |Kev| | osx, there is no win32 version (and it's not likely there'll ever be one) |
| 09:57.53 | |Kev| | if you're not on OSX, the best bet is almost certainly learning to use emacs or vim well |
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| 09:58.23 | |Kev| | although once KDE4 is out, it might be interesting to see if it could be extended to handle TextMate bundles |
| 09:58.31 | |Kev| | s/it/Kate/ |
| 09:58.44 | |Kev| | purl: nnk |
| 09:59.21 | |Kev| | I keep getting tempted by this idea, because Kate is actually pretty nice |
| 10:00.26 | Daemona | outlands down nr10 \o/ |
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| 10:01.46 | Athou | nymbia: would it be possible to add in quartz an option for faded debuffs on target to stay on screen for a little while, in another color, making them easy to catch and refresh ? |
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| 10:02.00 | ckknight | gah |
| 10:02.02 | ckknight | need to fix my cord properly sometime |
| 10:03.38 | nymbia | Athou: hrm.. that'd be neat |
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| 10:07.06 | CIA-22 | 03mok * r37671 10xchar/ (7 files): xchar: splitted functions to different files. |
| 10:08.02 | sbu | mh |
| 10:08.10 | sbu | omen/threat is completely broken now ;p |
| 10:09.13 | gold2 | Question, can you create a macro that casts the same spell 10 times in a row? |
| 10:09.28 | sbu | if you press the button 10 times, yes |
| 10:09.35 | gold2 | no just once =D |
| 10:09.48 | gold2 | can't you even create a addon that does recursive casting? |
| 10:09.49 | ZealotOnAStick | I don't see why you couldn't make a castsequence for that . . . but why not just cast the spell 10 times? same keypresses. |
| 10:09.55 | gold2 | Conjure water |
| 10:10.02 | gold2 | it's boring to press it 50 times every raid |
| 10:10.04 | ZealotOnAStick | No, you can't. |
| 10:10.16 | ZealotOnAStick | Each spellcast requires a hardware interrupt. |
| 10:10.20 | gold2 | I'd rather create a macro or addon that conjured 10 times, evocated, casted 10 more times |
| 10:10.26 | ZealotOnAStick | Part of Blizzard's anti-botting stuff. |
| 10:10.27 | yacoob | Gaaaa! |
| 10:10.29 | yacoob | IT IS ALIVE! |
| 10:10.31 | yacoob | http://www.discordmods.com/cgi-bin/showmessage.pl?forum=general&msgnum=2263 |
| 10:10.41 | Codayus | Be happy, you used to need to press the button a *lot* more.... |
| 10:10.47 | ZealotOnAStick | Check out ConcessionStand or something like that. |
| 10:11.04 | Codayus | (40 man raids and...what was it, 2 water per cast?) |
| 10:11.32 | cryogen | 4 i think |
| 10:11.49 | yacoob | we need a stick to beat this ressurected discord to death! |
| 10:12.17 | Codayus | Wow....discord.... |
| 10:12.29 | Codayus | The undead walk among us! |
| 10:12.36 | nymbia | haha |
| 10:12.39 | Codayus | Well, stagger. Slowly. This is Discord... |
| 10:13.06 | ZealotOnAStick | People still use DAB? |
| 10:13.32 | yacoob | it has just ben ressurected! |
| 10:13.37 | Codayus | (I used to use DUF, DAB, DART, and even Group Buttons... >< Oddly, I had really bad performance too...) |
| 10:13.37 | yacoob | WE NEED HOLY DAMAGE NOW! |
| 10:14.02 | Codayus | Still, Discord Mini Panels was actually pretty cool. |
| 10:14.18 | ZealotOnAStick | I used to use FlexBar because DAB got to be too complex to configure. and every new version practically nuked settings. |
| 10:14.38 | sbu | mhhh "threat.MINOR_VERSION" seems to be nil |
| 10:14.39 | ZealotOnAStick | Whereas the only time I had to redo FlexBar was when I redesigned my UI. |
| 10:15.03 | nymbia | sbu: it better be. threat:GetLibraryVersion() ? |
| 10:15.15 | Mikk | Backwards compatibility is for for the weak of heart |
| 10:15.42 | sbu | nymbia: GetLibraryVersion returns MINOR_VERSION from that lib? |
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| 10:16.28 | nymbia | sbu: second return iirc |
| 10:16.30 | Daemona | ok, this isnt even remotely funny anymore :( |
| 10:16.59 | ZealotOnAStick | Daemona: at least it's not snacking on your elixirs. |
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| 10:17.12 | Daemona | sure, cause i only chuck flasks in raids anyway |
| 10:17.18 | ZealotOnAStick | I lost 31 elixirs patch day. Adept's, Major Shadow Powers, and Major Forts. |
| 10:17.25 | Daemona | cause i could stack agi + fortitude or fel str + fortitude |
| 10:17.40 | sbu | uhm ok nymbia, thank you ;p |
| 10:17.43 | Mikk | fel str... heh.. what's the point of that now >:< |
| 10:17.53 | Daemona | the good thing though |
| 10:17.58 | Codayus | Losing elixirs? Hmm? |
| 10:18.05 | ZealotOnAStick | Well, untilk I get my hands on a load of black lotus, or finish the scryer rep grind . . . Flasks are cheaper for me. |
| 10:18.08 | Daemona | 9 peon camps poisoned and again relogged and 12 flesh left |
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| 10:20.14 | sbu | nymbia: hmm ok - select(2,threat:GetLibraryVersion()) works :) |
| 10:20.21 | ZealotOnAStick | Codayus: the "stacking items poofing from your bags that they then later hotfixed and won't remiburse anything" deal. |
| 10:20.30 | nymbia | sbu: :) |
| 10:22.26 | CIA-22 | 03sbu * r37672 10Omen/Omen.lua: Omen: fix Anchor / Threat-1.0 version |
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| 10:34.28 | nymbia | http://www.daviesh.net/atlasloot_enhanced/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=1233&p=3161#p3161 |
| 10:36.03 | Iceroth | lol |
| 10:36.17 | Iceroth | someone didn't quite grasp the consept of svn |
| 10:36.26 | nymbia | yup |
| 10:36.46 | Snarrrr | how can i set simple combat log to show me create conjured items (it shows things created by cooking etc but not conjured things)? |
| 10:40.42 | Iceroth | uh, anyone else getting error from svn when trying to update Gladiator? |
| 10:40.46 | Iceroth | seems to be coming from Tattle |
| 10:44.25 | nymbia | i didnt do it! |
| 10:44.52 | nymbia | hrm yeah it is erroring |
| 10:44.53 | nymbia | odd |
| 10:45.13 | CIA-22 | 03moonsorrow * r37673 10Reslack/Reslack.lua: |
| 10:45.13 | CIA-22 | Reslack: |
| 10:45.13 | CIA-22 | - small fix |
| 10:45.22 | nymbia | tattle itself updates fine, so it might be a sync issue on svn.wowace |
| 10:45.34 | Laricwork | whats tattle? |
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| 10:47.55 | Neebler | anti spam mod |
| 10:48.05 | Neebler | oh dur nm thats taggle |
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| 10:51.59 | kbh | any mods out there that make organizing a guild easier? |
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| 10:53.15 | [Ammo] | kbh: one advice, buy a big hammer and smack it down. |
| 10:54.38 | Iceroth | could anyone recommend some utility program that would allow me to search from file contents inside a folder? |
| 10:54.51 | vhaarr | grep |
| 10:54.56 | Iceroth | for windows.. |
| 10:54.58 | [Ammo] | grep |
| 10:55.00 | [Ammo] | :) |
| 10:55.18 | FISKER_Q | with cygwin |
| 10:55.19 | FISKER_Q | ;D |
| 10:55.20 | the_squid | control F |
| 10:55.29 | [Ammo] | or you could juse use the regular search thing in windows |
| 10:55.32 | [Ammo] | and select in contents etc |
| 10:55.33 | FISKER_Q | yarr |
| 10:55.38 | the_squid | [Ammo], i win! |
| 10:55.40 | [Ammo] | but that would not give you details on what is found |
| 10:55.41 | FISKER_Q | although grep is better |
| 10:56.04 | FISKER_Q | I think i use like half an hour getting the "search contents" working |
| 10:56.16 | FISKER_Q | as it requires some obscure paramters |
| 10:56.17 | cryogen | grep doesnt need cygwin |
| 10:56.20 | FISKER_Q | parameters |
| 10:56.30 | Iceroth | maybe i'm blind but i can't find the "search contents" option in vista >.< |
| 10:56.35 | FISKER_Q | Ok thought all linux ported tools needed grep :P |
| 10:56.37 | cryogen | there's a whole list of unix utilities with native ports to windows |
| 10:56.46 | FISKER_Q | alright |
| 10:56.50 | cryogen | check out the unxutils sourceforce project, its kinda neat |
| 10:58.12 | Iceroth | download gives 403 |
| 10:58.15 | Iceroth | really not my day |
| 10:58.38 | dotted | so my guild stoped requiring both DBM and CT_RABossMods, and now only DBM. |
| 10:58.56 | vhaarr | ZealotOnAStick: http://rabbit.nihilum.eu/NRT-2007-05-30.zip try that one |
| 10:58.59 | vhaarr | dotted: lol |
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| 10:59.45 | dotted | Sorry dotted, rules are rules.. Every raiding members will have to follow it, or he can't raid.. So even you.. |
| 10:59.46 | dotted | Vendetta is a very stable addon that doesn't require that much memory. You will HAVE to have this when you raid, simple as that. |
| 10:59.55 | dotted | sigh :p |
| 11:00.09 | gold2 | i prefer bigwigs |
| 11:00.13 | dotted | i replied: no raiding for me then |
| 11:00.20 | kbh | so i want to jump on the proverbial bandwagon and try out threat-1.0 |
| 11:00.29 | gold2 | our guildies can use whatever bossmods they like as long as it supports readycheck and everything else it should like reagent/potion checks |
| 11:00.32 | dotted | gold2 aye me2 |
| 11:00.39 | gold2 | so i use bigwigs, some use deadly boss mods, some use CT some uses others |
| 11:00.50 | anenigma | dotted: just make a pretend dbm mod, just like the pretend ktm one |
| 11:00.58 | dotted | anenigma i am |
| 11:01.03 | dotted | just need svn access |
| 11:02.18 | the_squid | lol patch |
| 11:02.19 | the_squid | why? |
| 11:03.24 | FtH|Daemona | Iceroth <type filename | find "string"> |
| 11:03.45 | Laricwork | what is tattles different datasets supposed to contain? Every player who is in the armorys? |
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| 11:05.48 | kbh | hrrm patchy |
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| 11:07.22 | ag` | someone set up us the server bomb |
| 11:07.37 | Megalon | all your base are belong to us |
| 11:07.55 | kbh | do the terms of service really change every patch? |
| 11:07.56 | FtH|Daemona | http://forums.wow-europe.com/thread.html?topicId=289879091&sid=1 |
| 11:08.07 | Laricwork | nymbia you got an answer from Daviesh now :P |
| 11:08.27 | Laricwork | http://www.daviesh.net/atlasloot_enhanced/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?p=3162#p3162 |
| 11:08.46 | nymbia | odang |
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| 11:10.10 | gold2 | cartographer tbh =D |
| 11:14.27 | dotted | not for instances |
| 11:14.32 | dotted | pretty shit there tbh |
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| 11:17.05 | Snarrrr | i think the tos just changes to apply to the newest game version. |
| 11:17.30 | ag` | My nose is sick! |
| 11:18.05 | SaisGwaith | They are dated, iirc. |
| 11:18.34 | SaisGwaith | I noticed a date on the last patch - it was quite old.... |
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| 11:19.27 | SaisGwaith | s/on the last patch/during the startup sequence after the last patch/ |
| 11:19.28 | break19 | hey.. could someone with svn access to babble lib, modify the filelist.wau to include the new Babble-Mount ? it's not getting split while the rest are.. |
| 11:28.14 | Gandharva | break19: Babble-Mount-2.2 is not ready yet. It doesn't even have a toc-entry. |
| 11:28.27 | break19 | Gandharva: yes it does |
| 11:28.38 | break19 | I just updated, and it does... |
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| 11:29.21 | Gandharva | Look into Babble-2.2.toc -> No entry |
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| 11:30.27 | dandebear | with a changelog like "ComboSounds: v1.0 |
| 11:30.28 | dandebear | - Added missing library dependency. |
| 11:30.28 | dandebear | - Added Riposte to ability list. |
| 11:30.33 | break19 | pastey'ing it right now, gand |
| 11:30.36 | dandebear | nooo |
| 11:30.43 | dandebear | ignore all that crap |
| 11:30.45 | break19 | pastey is just being slow :/ |
| 11:31.07 | dandebear | with a changelog like "Fixed a crash in the client." you know some programmer is eating shit tonight |
| 11:32.04 | break19 | *kicks pastey.net |
| 11:32.33 | break19 | Gandharva: *I* have a toc for babblemount... and it appears to be a correct one. |
| 11:33.47 | Silviu- | break19 look in Babble-2.2.toc |
| 11:33.50 | Gandharva | break19: Again: Look into ...\Babble-2.2\Babble-2.2.toc |
| 11:34.13 | [Ammo] | break19: babble-mount is not used, and not ready |
| 11:34.21 | [Ammo] | hence it has no reference in the original babble toc |
| 11:34.22 | break19 | okie doke then |
| 11:35.09 | break19 | on the same subject, different addon.. why does Ace2 not have a filelist.wau? |
| 11:35.26 | break19 | I've been running with that one split for quite some time now, and have noticed no issues. |
| 11:35.49 | Mikk | What's the point of splitting Ace2? |
| 11:35.57 | Mikk | It's not like anything inside it remains unused with any sane amount of mods loaded |
| 11:35.59 | [Ammo] | no point |
| 11:36.03 | break19 | cuz I can :p |
| 11:36.06 | [Ammo] | the only point of doing it is for cpu profiling |
| 11:36.12 | [Ammo] | which you can do manually |
| 11:36.17 | [Ammo] | there is no other need |
| 11:36.19 | Mikk | idd |
| 11:36.43 | CIA-22 | 03dandelion * r37674 10ComboSounds/ (5 files): |
| 11:36.43 | CIA-22 | ComboSounds: v1.0 |
| 11:36.43 | CIA-22 | - Added missing library dependency. |
| 11:36.43 | CIA-22 | - Added Riposte to ability list. |
| 11:37.42 | Gandharva | Daviesh @ wowace.com -> http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=6425.0 |
| 11:41.30 | kbh | does umm....... omen have any options? |
| 11:44.02 | Gandharva | Antiarc|Work: Did you see this? http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=6421.0 |
| 11:44.33 | CIA-22 | 03rabbit * r37675 10DBMFTLBBQ/ (. .DBMFTLBBQ.lua.swp DBMFTLBBQ.lua DBMFTLBBQ.toc): DBMFTLBBQ: Drycoded version responder for DBM, probably doesn't work. |
| 11:45.29 | CIA-22 | 03rabbit * r37676 10DBMFTLBBQ/.DBMFTLBBQ.lua.swp: DBMFTLBBQ: Remove temp file. |
| 11:45.38 | anenigma | hehe. nice swap file |
| 11:45.49 | cryogen | nice mod name :p |
| 11:46.52 | CIA-22 | 03mok * r37677 10xchar/ (mail.lua tooltip.lua xchar.lua): xchar: changed itemname to itemtexture |
| 11:47.08 | vhaarr | I can't test it though, since I don't know anyone who uses DBM |
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| 11:47.35 | Megalon | what's the purpose? fake dbm version replies? |
| 11:47.39 | vhaarr | yes |
| 11:48.13 | anenigma | should just make one mod that can fake anything |
| 11:48.23 | Megalon | even fake the mod itself! |
| 11:48.30 | *** join/#wowace dotted (n=me@0x555157c7.adsl.cybercity.dk) |
| 11:49.02 | [dRaCo] | just call it "fake", plain and simple |
| 11:49.16 | Health | or barbie |
| 11:49.18 | Megalon | or F4kz0r1z0r |
| 11:49.33 | vhaarr | I like the name, it signals that I think the addon sucks, and that I think it's a joke. |
| 11:49.40 | vhaarr | "FTL" and "BBQ", respectively. |
| 11:49.54 | *** part/#wowace Drumer (n=dd@lan-233-064.users.mns.ru) |
| 11:49.59 | [dRaCo] | he, barbie is cool. |
| 11:50.24 | Necrathex | deadly barbie mods |
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| 12:00.13 | Gngsk | http://www.lrguild.org/kerp/kerpui.jpg |
| 12:00.20 | Gngsk | is the fire vulnerability timer part of quartz? |
| 12:00.47 | vhaarr | yes |
| 12:01.06 | Gngsk | thx |
| 12:01.24 | xlvii | Mage or Paladin for _slowly_ leveling to 70? I want to enjoy playing this character, I want the chance to do all instances, etc. etc. |
| 12:01.29 | Snarrrr | doesn't show if you're not the first one to cast scorch |
| 12:03.00 | Mikk | xlvii: pally, obviously |
| 12:03.03 | Mikk | mage = zoom, 70 |
| 12:03.14 | evl | mage is fast |
| 12:03.30 | Megalon | get a healing class, and specc heal for leveling |
| 12:03.33 | Megalon | that's quite slow |
| 12:03.37 | Megalon | :x |
| 12:03.41 | clad|sleep | doesn't get any slower actually |
| 12:03.42 | clad|sleep | lol |
| 12:05.36 | Laricwork | level a holy/disci priest.. |
| 12:05.39 | nymbia | Snarrrr: that's dumb, blizz should give you info if you contributed a stack to a debuff :( |
| 12:05.44 | Laricwork | enjoy levelling oce per week or so |
| 12:06.40 | wobin | okay, bets on how long it'll take xlvii to snap and respec into a levelling spec? =) |
| 12:06.50 | abyssichate | http://elitistjerks.com/showthread.php?t=12432 |
| 12:06.56 | abyssichate | So many people excited there :D |
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| 12:07.09 | Vidrio | er |
| 12:07.11 | Vidrio | sorry |
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| 12:08.12 | RLD_osx | Mikk: found out what my issue was. mistyped macro. #/showtooltip was the cause. |
| 12:08.18 | CIA-22 | 03arkayenro * r37678 10ArkInventory/ (4 files): |
| 12:08.18 | CIA-22 | ArkInventory: |
| 12:08.18 | CIA-22 | - 1.37 |
| 12:08.23 | xlvii | http://www.warcraftrealms.com/census.php?serverid=728&factionid=2&minlevel=70&maxlevel=70&servertypeid=2 |
| 12:08.37 | xlvii | Wondering if I should roll a Paladin, it seems to have the lowest percentage. |
| 12:08.50 | xlvii | I just wish I didn't have to be Blood Elf.. Males are so 'gay'. |
| 12:09.02 | xlvii | And I say that in the most unoffensive way. |
| 12:11.13 | Vidrio | they are better than male NE's |
| 12:11.14 | Vidrio | :P |
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| 12:12.39 | xlvii | :P |
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| 12:14.09 | break19 | i dunno whats more offensive to me.. blood elf, or gay. heh |
| 12:14.12 | wobin | That last poster on the EJ thread |
| 12:14.18 | wobin | So true =P |
| 12:14.20 | MaranathaTX | I was in Gruul's layer last night and some kind of droning beat could be heard by several players..real low-bass type of sound like a pulsating thing. Anyone know which mod is doing this and what it's purpose is? |
| 12:14.38 | break19 | but its ok.. when I see one, I usually kill it. |
| 12:14.47 | wobin | blood elf, or gay? =P |
| 12:15.19 | Vidrio | doesnt that sound happen when you are too close to a player? |
| 12:15.19 | break19 | well. I aint goin to jail :p |
| 12:15.19 | Vidrio | I havent done gruul.. so I have no idea |
| 12:15.19 | break19 | so blood elf |
| 12:15.29 | wobin | break19: Well that could mean you're just smart about not getting caught =P |
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| 12:15.40 | Codayus | My first main was a male NE. Got it to 60, and then realized...why am I playing a character so hideously ugly? At least male blood elves are attractive, even if in a somewhat sexually ambiguous way. |
| 12:15.41 | break19 | wobin: it might. :) |
| 12:15.47 | MaranathaTX | not sure..bigwigs gruul assist initiated and it started later on..not sure that was it but was thinking it was possible |
| 12:16.03 | wobin | all encompassing helmets are a NE's best friend =) |
| 12:17.21 | break19 | Codayus: ambiguous my ass.. there's nothing ambiguous there.. they completely outta the closet |
| 12:17.21 | Codayus | Fine, fine. |
| 12:17.21 | [Ammo] | MaranathaTX: it's during shatter |
| 12:17.22 | Codayus | But at least they're pretty. |
| 12:17.22 | wobin | Blood Elves are just FABULOUS! |
| 12:17.22 | MaranathaTX | ..if it was, it didn't seem too useful llol..but it was kinda soothing in a way : ) |
| 12:17.22 | [Ammo] | that's when you hear the sound, to indicate you're too close :p |
| 12:17.24 | break19 | especially when the MALE says "Doncha wish your girlfriend was hot like me" heh |
| 12:17.24 | [Ammo] | only during shatter though |
| 12:17.25 | Codayus | Whereas my male NE rogue is so ugly his MOTHER doesn't even love him, nevermind other NEs of either gender. |
| 12:17.27 | wobin | QQ |
| 12:17.27 | Vidrio | can someone tell me why theres no ace2 damage meter? :x |
| 12:17.27 | wobin | poor Nelf |
| 12:17.33 | [Ammo] | Vidrio: Violation |
| 12:17.35 | break19 | hey now, my wife has nelf druid.. and shes hot. |
| 12:17.35 | wobin | Vidrio: Violation |
| 12:17.39 | Vidrio | ty (y) |
| 12:17.55 | wobin | Your wife? |
| 12:17.56 | MaranathaTX | hmmm..ok. It was confusing because it was still going in the hall leading up to gruul when we were reclearing trash and there were no shatters going on |
| 12:17.58 | break19 | yep |
| 12:18.02 | Codayus | In retrospect, I apparently chose the ugliest possible face and hair options. And then in a fit of stunning originality, I named him "Shadowgleam". For a NE rogue. Yeah.... |
| 12:18.04 | wobin | well, that says nothing about the druid =) |
| 12:18.05 | break19 | what makes it even hotter: she can kick my ass |
| 12:18.17 | break19 | in game AND rl :) |
| 12:18.20 | wobin | Codayus: You brought it upon yourself =P |
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| 12:18.34 | Codayus | Yeah. Remember kids, don't drink and roll characters. |
| 12:18.52 | wobin | unless you're rolling them for money |
| 12:18.54 | break19 | Codayus: you think HE"S ugly? I got a dorf rogue named Murd :p |
| 12:19.01 | break19 | "Imma Murd ye!" heh |
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| 12:19.37 | break19 | Track Treasure ftw :) |
| 12:19.49 | Codayus | Heh, a husband/wife duo in our guild...heard on vent... Husband (rogue): "Can you please heal me?" Wife (feral druid): "You have bandages, right?" *silence* |
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| 12:20.35 | break19 | Codayus: rofl. yea thats us, except on her server, I have a hunter "heal my pet!" "do it yourself" "uhhh outta mana?" "poor piggy" lol |
| 12:20.39 | MaranathaTX | Coda: I'm a druid, my wife a rogue..I have to hear that all night long lol |
| 12:21.07 | Codayus | The difference, is, you eventually break down and heal her, right? In this case, she never did heal him. :-) |
| 12:21.17 | zoktar | ehm anyone got there client switched to german after patch? |
| 12:21.21 | break19 | Codayus: if he doesn't, he sleeps on the couch :p |
| 12:21.33 | MaranathaTX | no healin no lovin..what would you do? |
| 12:21.38 | Codayus | Heal. |
| 12:21.39 | Codayus | :-p |
| 12:21.50 | Stephmw | Bah, you lot just need different partners: Me (mage) pewpewpew<whack>... wife (shaman) <heals> |
| 12:21.54 | Stephmw | no need to ask |
| 12:22.17 | Chompers | recently got my paladin to 20, man its fun healing things |
| 12:22.36 | Chompers | such a warm fuzzy feeling when you heal someone up :P |
| 12:22.37 | Codayus | Heh, the sterotype is...whenever you have a husband/wife or bf/gf duo, the female is always playing the healer... |
| 12:22.54 | MaranathaTX | Chomp: that will lose its appeal..quickly |
| 12:22.55 | Silviu- | Me warlock, my gf priest |
| 12:23.00 | Silviu- | guess who heals ;) |
| 12:23.14 | [Ammo] | warlock :p |
| 12:23.33 | Stephmw | Codayus: true, although she packs a punch :)... and I bandage her as needed, of course |
| 12:23.35 | Elkano | I'm a Druid and my girlfriend is a Druid, too ^^ |
| 12:23.37 | Silviu- | Hey ! ;) |
| 12:23.41 | Stephmw | Codayus: I used to play a priest |
| 12:23.59 | evl | Elkano: 3-some with a branch?! |
| 12:24.06 | evl | Bloody treehuggers! |
| 12:24.07 | CIA-22 | 03jerry 07Jerry * r37679 10FixLogStrings/FixLogStrings/core.lua: FixLogStrings: Removed transformation of |2 patterns in frFR |
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| 12:24.18 | Codayus | Hmm |
| 12:24.29 | Codayus | It'd be cool to see the breakdown of class and spec by gender... |
| 12:24.32 | Elkano | but I'm feral and she's resto so as long as I tank the mobs I'll get healed (well, sometimes not enoght but well...) |
| 12:25.05 | Silviu- | Elkano we can`t blame our gf`s that they don`t heal good :P |
| 12:25.06 | Elkano | evl, do you knw the dark legacy comic on druids? |
| 12:25.28 | evl | no sorry :D |
| 12:25.32 | Elkano | silviu, we can't but we still do ;) |
| 12:25.38 | Stephmw | Codayus: that's easy... Character ( Class* || Gender* ) == Male IRL |
| 12:26.28 | break19 | Elkano: I know better than to tell my wife she sucks at healing. she'll tell the group "brb" come in here and backhand me upside the back of my head. heh |
| 12:26.40 | Silviu- | I don`t remember how many times i died in bg`s cause she don`t move too quick ;p |
| 12:26.41 | Codayus | Stephmw: Hmm? |
| 12:27.04 | Stephmw | Codayus: there are no real life women playing MMORPGs, only guys playing girls and guys playing guys |
| 12:27.18 | break19 | Stephmw: how wrong you are :) |
| 12:27.19 | Mikk | And FBI agents playing 15-year-old girls |
| 12:27.25 | Elkano | well, for us it's sometimes: "heal me!" - "I DO heal you... ups..." |
| 12:27.26 | Stephmw | Mikk: exactly. |
| 12:27.37 | Stephmw | break19: it's the running joke |
| 12:27.38 | Silviu- | :)) |
| 12:27.47 | Codayus | Hmmm, naa, lots of females in our guild. Our raids tend to run...umm....about 1/3 female. |
| 12:27.53 | Silviu- | I have one partener in 3vs3 team |
| 12:28.08 | Stephmw | Codayus: in-game femals or just voip males distorting their voices? |
| 12:28.09 | break19 | as a rule tho, females usually prefer instances over pvp.. but my wife is an exception. |
| 12:28.37 | xlvii | wobin, what server do you play on? what faction / class too? |
| 12:28.42 | Silviu- | And he says .. "bop ist raus ( he gived me blessing of prot), healing kommt ( healing comes ) then .. shit ... was too late " ;)) |
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| 12:28.47 | break19 | i used to run with a mother/daughter combo.. mother was priest, daughter was a war. |
| 12:28.48 | Silviu- | He is verry good in pve |
| 12:28.50 | Silviu- | but in arena |
| 12:28.53 | Silviu- | he sux :) |
| 12:29.06 | wobin | xlvii: Argent Dawn, Alliance |
| 12:29.13 | Codayus | ....no, like, female females. :-) Which can lead to graphic vent conversations. Some raids I learn more than I *EVER* wanted to know about pregnancy. oO |
| 12:29.15 | wobin | My main is currently a dwarven priestess |
| 12:29.20 | Elkano | well, but it's fun to have small kids thinking you are a girl and trying to get in contact with you... at least sometimes... ;) |
| 12:29.23 | wobin | and I have a human rogue |
| 12:29.30 | evl | gnomes or gtfo |
| 12:29.38 | Mikk | wtb gnomish druids |
| 12:29.39 | wobin | I have a gnome mage |
| 12:29.46 | evl | But! |
| 12:29.49 | break19 | dorf rogues + track treasure ftw :) |
| 12:29.54 | Silviu- | delete gnome class :( |
| 12:29.55 | evl | Dranei have beaten humans on the breast scale |
| 12:29.56 | evl | so they win |
| 12:29.57 | Stephmw | Mikk: more for me to punt, more gnomes are good |
| 12:30.01 | Codayus | Most of the females in our guild are raiders. No real pvp types. |
| 12:30.17 | Elkano | wobin, was thinking about a gnomish mage, too, but +10% rep made me roll human |
| 12:30.19 | break19 | draenei are hot cuz of the accent. :) |
| 12:30.26 | Mikk | break19: no shit. my farmer rogue has mining, herbing, and is a dwarf. Looooots of tracking toggling =P |
| 12:30.29 | CIA-22 | 03jerry * r37680 10FixLogStrings/: FixLogStrings: copy branch on trunk |
| 12:30.59 | Mikk | and yeah draenei females are teh hotz :-P |
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| 12:31.16 | Silviu- | Ok tiull later seems my server needs 1h more :/ |
| 12:31.19 | Silviu- | till* |
| 12:31.21 | Elkano | mikk, only as long as you don't look at them from the side ;) |
| 12:31.28 | kenlyric | Mikk: don't lie. You never toggle treasure tracking :) |
| 12:31.45 | break19 | all of my mains have been dorfs |
| 12:31.59 | Mikk | kenlyric|home: no, you're right. i used it in strath a few times but that's it :S |
| 12:32.31 | kenlyric | neat, that still notified me, that's good to know :) |
| 12:33.05 | wobin | Elkano: <3 Human rep |
| 12:33.09 | kenlyric | I picked night elf for my first priest because.... errrr... I thought wisp form would be useful. |
| 12:33.17 | kenlyric | turns out I was, sadly, right. |
| 12:33.17 | break19 | heh |
| 12:33.20 | wobin | I miss wisp form |
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| 12:33.23 | boobies4u | ^^ |
| 12:33.24 | wobin | whenever I'm not a nelf |
| 12:33.33 | Codayus | NE = worst possible priest race. >< |
| 12:33.35 | kenlyric | but when i rerolled, I could pass up the human spirit. |
| 12:33.45 | kenlyric | *couldn't |
| 12:34.00 | kenlyric | especially since they were doubling it in a couple weeks. |
| 12:34.04 | Codayus | <-- Human priest. |
| 12:34.12 | Stephmw | Codayus: what's the best these days? |
| 12:34.21 | Codayus | Draenei. :-( |
| 12:34.23 | kenlyric | draenei |
| 12:34.28 | yacoob | not dwarf anymore? |
| 12:34.36 | kenlyric | I just couldn'tt wait for the xpac, wanted to be 60 so I could level with my friends. |
| 12:34.50 | kenlyric | no way, draenei have party mana regen. |
| 12:34.51 | Codayus | Dwarf was always debatable. Fear ward is good, but... <shrug> Limited utility. |
| 12:35.13 | boobies4u | dorf for pvp/arena imo |
| 12:35.13 | Codayus | Humans get diplomacy and a spirit bonus, which helps you directly. |
| 12:35.14 | Mikk | stoneform for garrotte removal omg! |
| 12:35.26 | boobies4u | draenei for pve |
| 12:35.44 | Codayus | Draenei get fear ward, a nifty heal (I prefer desperate prayer, but it's still good), and a party wide mana regen buff. OP. |
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| 12:35.57 | kenlyric | don't forget about +hit |
| 12:36.03 | Codayus | Oh, true. |
| 12:36.14 | boobies4u | always nice with extra clit rating |
| 12:36.30 | kenlyric | I'm a spirit whore, so I get about 65 spirit right now from human spirit. |
| 12:37.09 | Codayus | The spell hit aura is nice for some added synergy with spriest healer/caster groups. |
| 12:37.51 | kenlyric | sometimes I just want to ever race/class combo that interests me :) |
| 12:37.54 | Codayus | I have no idea how bliz things draenei priests are balanced. :-( Oh well, at least I have diplomacy and an instant self heal. |
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| 12:38.33 | kenlyric | I feel pad for blood elf priests. They got teh shaft |
| 12:38.36 | kenlyric | *bad |
| 12:38.51 | Codayus | Hmm. *tries to recall their racials* |
| 12:38.53 | boobies4u | blood elf is all about looks |
| 12:39.03 | zoktar | i like the silence in pvp ;P |
| 12:39.10 | zoktar | wont me few matches |
| 12:39.18 | cryogen | they had a perfect opportunity to give horde fear ward with blood elf, but they're so damned stubborn :) |
| 12:39.19 | zoktar | won |
| 12:39.29 | Codayus | True, female BE is about the best you can get for looking pretty on horde side. :-) |
| 12:39.31 | Elkano | femal bloodelf warlock -> learn to play onehanded... ;) |
| 12:39.46 | nevcairiel | monin' |
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| 12:40.02 | nevcairiel | anyone know what was changed in that patch there? didnt even get a minor version increase.. |
| 12:40.08 | Codayus | cryogen: Yeah...I was...REALLY surprised when they gave horde pallies...but not fear ward. One of those WTF things. |
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| 12:40.33 | Elkano | nevcariel: iirc bugfix for #132 |
| 12:40.49 | nevcairiel | ah |
| 12:41.13 | nevcairiel | but it broke their worldservers =P |
| 12:41.26 | Elkano | epic fail ;) |
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| 12:42.11 | cryogen | Codayus: really crazy odd thing to do.. they very reason for exchanging paladins and shamans was for "pve balance", but they left the one big one out, oh well im sure they had their reasons :) |
| 12:43.51 | yacoob | I thought you play warlock with rolling your forehead on the keyboard...? :) |
| 12:44.31 | break19 | nah, you just spam 2 keyboard buttons |
| 12:44.35 | kbh | i use beard UI with my mage |
| 12:45.05 | kbh | yep, onebutton raid dps |
| 12:45.32 | chutwig | scorch scorch scorch scorch scorch fire blast fireball fireball scorch fire blast |
| 12:45.34 | Stephmw | Antiarc|Work: that's a nice burning smell coming from the EJ forums |
| 12:45.38 | break19 | yacoob: yea. like giving horde newbie areas lvl 65 elite guards that pop out once you start attackin, yet horde can attack auberdine and astranaar all day long and no guards show up :p |
| 12:45.38 | kenlyric | Consume Magic dispels one beneficial Magic effect from the caster and gives them 120 to 154 mana. (660 to 694 mana at level 70) - instant cast, two minutes cooldown. |
| 12:45.41 | CIA-22 | 03jerry * r37681 10FixLogStrings/FixLogStrings.toc: FixLogStrings: a correct TOC might help |
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| 12:46.32 | kenlyric | newbie areas have level 65 guards, but secondary areas do not. |
| 12:46.44 | kenlyric | you can attack the crossroads all day long, too. |
| 12:47.14 | Elkano | back in the early days, we used to crash Kalimdor by doing so ^ |
| 12:47.30 | Stephmw | kenlyric: alliance on my server frequently leave XR a barren wasteland |
| 12:47.43 | Stephmw | kenlyric: makes questing hard for newbies |
| 12:48.34 | Stephmw | break19: but thanks for the pointers :-) |
| 12:49.44 | nevcairiel | stupid servers |
| 12:50.31 | Elkano | lucky you :/ |
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| 12:51.18 | kenlyric | what's wrong with your server/ |
| 12:51.22 | kenlyric | oh, EU |
| 12:51.31 | kenlyric | +? |
| 12:53.08 | kbh | my game is pissing me off - defaulting to 800x600 every time i start it |
| 12:53.10 | Iceroth | total of 8 servers up in eu.. zzz |
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| 12:53.27 | Ravagernl | moo :P |
| 12:54.05 | Chompers | "I really dont care at all about if my cpu does something when I'm afk, so sticking with KTM" |
| 12:55.05 | Megalon | :C |
| 12:55.40 | nevcairiel | lol |
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| 12:55.54 | QuantumDelta | what's up with KTM atm? |
| 12:56.03 | Stephmw | it's a resource hog.. |
| 12:56.04 | nevcairiel | nothing in particular |
| 12:56.06 | kenlyric | "I probably have seven keyloggers on my machine already. What's one more?" |
| 12:56.11 | nevcairiel | lol |
| 12:56.13 | QuantumDelta | lol |
| 12:56.14 | Stephmw | kenlyric: LOL |
| 12:56.26 | kenlyric | these are the kind of people I deal with daily. |
| 12:56.36 | Stephmw | kenlyric: 1st-line tech support? |
| 12:56.48 | QuantumDelta | never be frontline |
| 12:56.48 | QuantumDelta | ever |
| 12:56.51 | QuantumDelta | Ever. |
| 12:56.55 | Stephmw | EVER. |
| 12:56.59 | Chompers | EVAR |
| 12:57.10 | wobin | Well, I'd extend that to "Never do tech-support" =P |
| 12:57.22 | kenlyric | oh GOD |
| 12:57.26 | kenlyric | no, not frontline |
| 12:57.34 | yacoob | Stephmw, your nickname is 'Deniator'? :)) |
| 12:57.36 | Elkano | "can't help I'll let kenlyric handle..." |
| 12:58.03 | Stephmw | yacoob: haha, naah, I'm in R&D dev... so I write the bugfixes :) |
| 12:58.06 | kenlyric | I'd massacre whole villages before I do walk-up or phone tech support. |
| 12:58.19 | kenlyric | I am NOT tech support. I don't want to support your compromised ass. |
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| 12:58.45 | kenlyric | *their |
| 12:58.51 | QuantumDelta | walk-up tech support (assuming you mean home support) |
| 12:58.54 | QuantumDelta | isn't actually that bad |
| 12:58.55 | yacoob | Stephmw, ah! You're dressing up bugs to let them become features? |
| 12:59.04 | Stephmw | yacoob: that's the one |
| 12:59.05 | wobin | WAI |
| 12:59.10 | kenlyric | QuantumDelta: you're sick and twisted. |
| 12:59.13 | Stephmw | yacoob: on 300million devices worldwide :) |
| 12:59.14 | QuantumDelta | I find if I have the unit infront of me I can tell the client to fuck off :P |
| 12:59.22 | yacoob | blueberry? |
| 12:59.25 | yacoob | no, wait... |
| 12:59.26 | kenlyric | Never make physical or vocal contact with idiots. They will infect you. |
| 12:59.31 | yacoob | mobiles?! |
| 12:59.37 | Stephmw | well done :) |
| 12:59.43 | Chompers | oh my, kencos posting on this thread :O |
| 12:59.49 | wobin | yeah |
| 12:59.49 | QuantumDelta | I spend every day of my life combating the stupidity of humanity |
| 12:59.50 | kenlyric | linky! |
| 12:59.52 | Chompers | things just got very juicy |
| 12:59.57 | yacoob | which brand? |
| 13:00.03 | wobin | I like his "I only have one frame!" |
| 13:00.03 | Chompers | http://elitistjerks.com/showthread.php?t=12432&page=3 |
| 13:00.06 | Chompers | 3/4 down |
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| 13:00.16 | Stephmw | yacoob: yup, I'm an implementor of core J2ME apis on a certain manufacturer's handsets |
| 13:00.42 | Mikk | and yeah the table heading is wrong |
| 13:00.44 | yacoob | Stephmw, the question is, which one, so I'd be able to either hate your or love you :D |
| 13:00.46 | Mikk | that's not 100k seconds =P |
| 13:00.59 | Mikk | 100k ms perhaps? =P |
| 13:01.13 | Stephmw | yacoob: it's [NDA] in [NDA] on the following series of [NDA handsets] |
| 13:01.32 | wobin | wow, Black ops R&D |
| 13:01.36 | Stephmw | yacoob: you probably loath them anyway, user of 3rd-party devs :D |
| 13:01.45 | QuantumDelta | wth |
| 13:01.49 | Stephmw | *user OR |
| 13:01.50 | QuantumDelta | cannings whores the EJ forums? |
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| 13:02.01 | Mikk | heh. when did a dev ever get to discuss something they work with? |
| 13:02.06 | Stephmw | yacoob: I'm quitting in August - I'll let you knwo then ;) |
| 13:02.07 | snurre | kenco's post in that thread is gold tbh |
| 13:02.19 | Mikk | usually they can't even disclose that they've coded anything even AFTER the project is public |
| 13:02.25 | Mikk | NDA swamp ftw |
| 13:02.41 | kenlyric | maybe he doesn't understand what frame means? |
| 13:02.44 | yacoob | Stephmw, nah, you can tell me now ;) |
| 13:02.52 | Stephmw | yup... NDA usually says 'never disclose, or until through no action of their own the knowledge becomes public' |
| 13:03.28 | kenlyric | and my FPS dropped to 58 |
| 13:03.28 | Mikk | and when does it become public that developer X worked on project Y? nevah =P |
| 13:03.34 | kenlyric | shit... i want my FPS to drop to 58. |
| 13:03.41 | Stephmw | kenlyric: haha |
| 13:03.47 | kenlyric | cause then it would go up by 30 |
| 13:04.05 | Stephmw | Mikk: typically people never say anything because it's really no big deal, you were an ant in the machine.. |
| 13:04.11 | Stephmw | Mikk: for me it'll just go on the CV |
| 13:04.11 | yacoob | Stephmw, well, you never know, we might be on the same boat, that's why I'm asking :P |
| 13:04.20 | snurre | Kenco is using the KTM discussion to brag about his awesome computer.. :p |
| 13:04.26 | kenlyric | I meant just standing still :) |
| 13:04.49 | Stephmw | kenlyric: where though? maybe he was at the bottom of the deep ocean, facing the ground, in 1st-person |
| 13:04.52 | vodrin | link thread please ^^ |
| 13:05.17 | Mikk | hm |
| 13:05.20 | Mikk | i should tweak my gamefield tbh |
| 13:05.29 | Mikk | all that rendering going on that's 90% underneath GUI shit :S |
| 13:05.51 | Stephmw | it's be nice if the render area could be non-rectangular |
| 13:05.53 | kenlyric | oh hey, my bank alt without only a handful of mods turned on just hit 58. |
| 13:06.07 | Mikk | kenlyric: looking at the floor? |
| 13:06.09 | kenlyric | then somebody ran in front of me |
| 13:06.14 | Mikk | hehe |
| 13:06.36 | snurre | well, it doesnt take much for a relatively new system to get 100+ fps in wow |
| 13:06.50 | evl | I get 70 on my work laptop :P |
| 13:06.59 | kenlyric | I should get a relatively new system. |
| 13:07.13 | kenlyric | 2004 doesn't seem that long ago. |
| 13:07.23 | snurre | :p |
| 13:07.42 | wobin | Hey |
| 13:07.43 | kenlyric | screw all that |
| 13:07.50 | wobin | I played Oblivion like that |
| 13:07.55 | evl | svn on drugs again? |
| 13:08.03 | wobin | It was like being in a 640x480 room full of fog |
| 13:08.07 | kenlyric | it's not like i need 100fps. |
| 13:08.08 | kbh | the last game i played like that was doom |
| 13:08.24 | boobies4u | hah |
| 13:08.26 | boobies4u | "Blizzard has filed a federal lawsuit against the operators of Peons4hire, a popular gold-selling organization which many of you have no doubt seen advertised. |
| 13:08.26 | kenlyric | this machine was built for doom3/half-life2 |
| 13:08.27 | kbh | on my tandy200 |
| 13:08.38 | kenlyric | yeah, like a week ago. |
| 13:08.42 | boobies4u | gogo blizz |
| 13:08.46 | boobies4u | pawn them |
| 13:08.49 | kenlyric | meh. |
| 13:09.03 | Iceroth | vista and windowed mode take a fair chunk of my fps :-/ |
| 13:09.22 | kenlyric | goldfarmers are the reason major mana potions are like 3g a stack :) |
| 13:09.33 | kenlyric | I've always wondered what fps I'd get in full screen mode. |
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| 13:09.40 | wobin | major mana is no longer good enough |
| 13:10.04 | kenlyric | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:10.16 | wobin | well I only use them in instances |
| 13:10.20 | kenlyric | me too. |
| 13:10.23 | wobin | for the heals |
| 13:10.23 | vodrin | in winxp i could run fraps at 1650*1080 by accident and not notice till i get disk space low errors and a harddrive full of myself idling in IF |
| 13:10.38 | vodrin | with vista for some reason i drop down to 8-12 fps with fraps |
| 13:10.52 | wobin | vodrin: My father used to do that. Except with him, we'd get holiday camera footage of the footpath as he walked around |
| 13:11.03 | evl | I have yet to see the benefit of Vista from a professional standpoint |
| 13:11.03 | vodrin | ^^ |
| 13:11.12 | evl | It's just slower and with more graphical piss |
| 13:11.17 | wobin | evl: From any standpoint =P |
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| 13:11.32 | snurre | vodrin: no problem with fraps and vista here |
| 13:11.33 | Stephmw | vodrin: what hardware? |
| 13:11.50 | vodrin | nothing special, sec |
| 13:12.06 | wobin | That's probably why =) |
| 13:12.09 | snurre | with an intel e6600 and geforce 8800gtx, im at 100+ while idling and 50ish in raids.. with fraps it's at whatever my fraps setting is at |
| 13:12.28 | wobin | oh man |
| 13:12.33 | wobin | I can't wait til I get my desktop |
| 13:12.46 | vodrin | x2 4200 , 2gb, 7600gs |
| 13:13.08 | vodrin | it just seems odd the difference in fraps between the two os =x |
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| 13:13.35 | vodrin | i would change back but i'm pretty lazy |
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| 13:14.19 | Funkeh` | hey all |
| 13:14.38 | break19 | did files* just go down? |
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| 13:15.04 | Archarodim | wowace.com is down |
| 13:15.07 | break19 | nm, its up.. just extremely slow |
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| 13:16.08 | break19 | blech |
| 13:16.22 | break19 | vista: It's still windows |
| 13:16.34 | kenlyric | I tried vista twice, beta 2 and RTM. Maybe again for SP1. |
| 13:16.50 | evl | But WHY |
| 13:16.53 | evl | Vista adds more crap |
| 13:17.04 | break19 | OS X ftw |
| 13:17.05 | Stephmw | break19: I don't get super great fps under linux, but it's still 10fps more than I did under windows |
| 13:17.10 | kenlyric | because I tried dicking around with that abomination of an emulator on Linux. |
| 13:17.11 | evl | This is my last PC, there's no reason to get a windows computer when OSX is so much better |
| 13:17.13 | Archarodim | I won't use Vista unless I'm forced to... |
| 13:17.25 | break19 | i wont ever be forced to :) |
| 13:17.31 | Gandharva | Until Crysis is out, I'm not going to use Vista |
| 13:17.37 | Archarodim | win xp is perfectly stable for me |
| 13:17.44 | break19 | hah |
| 13:17.47 | break19 | its still windows |
| 13:17.48 | snurre | im using vista and happy with it |
| 13:18.20 | Stephmw | snurre: nvidia or ati? |
| 13:18.24 | snurre | nvidia |
| 13:18.24 | kenlyric | it's nice to be all uppity about an operating system, but when shit don't work, shit don't work. |
| 13:18.38 | evl | OSX is the perfect example of less is more |
| 13:18.40 | evl | That's what I wat |
| 13:18.41 | evl | want* |
| 13:19.08 | break19 | kenlyric: which is why I bought a mac.. I dont have to worry about "shit dont work" cuz.. shit DOES work :) |
| 13:19.13 | kenlyric | right |
| 13:19.30 | kenlyric | let me just install all my games and get going. |
| 13:19.34 | break19 | I got tired of tweaking and tweaking |
| 13:19.34 | Archarodim | I hate the finder in OSX |
| 13:19.36 | kenlyric | wait, wut? |
| 13:20.28 | break19 | kenlyric: whatever games you play that dont have mac versions.. theres always parallels.. and bugging the morons at the company who wrote the game. |
| 13:20.46 | wobin | What's Crysis? |
| 13:21.09 | Gandharva | Crysis is THE upcoming egoshooter |
| 13:21.09 | wobin | oh is it a dx10 game? |
| 13:21.13 | kenlyric | right, because it's more important for me to be ideological about my operating system then to just to enjoy my computer. |
| 13:21.21 | wobin | kenlyric: duh =P |
| 13:21.27 | Stephmw | snurre: interesting. I'd heard the 88XXX drivers for vista were somewhat worthless |
| 13:21.28 | break19 | kenlyric: if shit dont work, then you aint enjoying it. |
| 13:21.32 | Stephmw | err 88XX |
| 13:21.35 | Gandharva | http://www.crysis-game.com/ |
| 13:21.42 | Elkano | just today a friend of mine complained about OSX scheduler in his dual core macbook ^^ |
| 13:21.44 | wobin | break19: But what if the game you want to enjoy doesn't work? |
| 13:21.50 | kenlyric | I <3 macos and linux, but I can't abandon windows, ever. |
| 13:21.56 | snurre | Stephmw: they used to be.. just fine now |
| 13:21.57 | break19 | wobin: then I find a better game |
| 13:22.00 | kenlyric | break19: what? shit does work. |
| 13:22.04 | wobin | That takes too much effort |
| 13:22.10 | wobin | And waiting |
| 13:22.12 | kenlyric | my comment about "shit doesn't work" was about games in linux/macos |
| 13:22.14 | wobin | especially for mac games |
| 13:23.11 | wobin | I'd dump windows completely, but I use it at work |
| 13:23.15 | Tain | Damn those morons at game studios for not creating games on platforms that will cause them to lose money. Damn them to hell. |
| 13:23.21 | wobin | That's right! |
| 13:23.22 | evl | wobin: urrrr, Parallellis? :) |
| 13:23.26 | wobin | Damn the bottom line! |
| 13:23.26 | evl | wobin: Dual boot? |
| 13:23.36 | break19 | kenlyric: tweaking windows to make it work is a pain in the ass.. |
| 13:23.40 | wobin | evl: Again, that takes time =P |
| 13:23.44 | wobin | and effort |
| 13:23.47 | kenlyric | if you have to tweak winxp to make it work, you're doing it wrong. |
| 13:23.50 | evl | wobin: paralelllis works flawelessly |
| 13:23.57 | wobin | what's that? |
| 13:24.00 | evl | kenlyric: shutting services |
| 13:24.07 | evl | wobin: it runs a windows wm natively inside osx |
| 13:24.14 | Tain | You don't have to "shut services" |
| 13:24.19 | wobin | that's still emulation though |
| 13:24.26 | wobin | I have enough issues with wine =) |
| 13:24.36 | evl | wobin: http://www.parallels.com/products/workstation/ss/ |
| 13:24.39 | kenlyric | me tried the abomination that is cedega for about a month. |
| 13:24.46 | kenlyric | errr, + / |
| 13:24.55 | wobin | wine runs WoW, and that's enough for me |
| 13:25.01 | Gandharva | Vista performs extremely poor in CPU limited games |
| 13:25.09 | vhaarr | I run wow in wine, has been working fine unpatched for the last year or so. |
| 13:25.16 | kenlyric | it's wow |
| 13:25.29 | kenlyric | it's not exactly a system hog. |
| 13:25.41 | wobin | I'm never going to run fraps or anything |
| 13:25.53 | Kebinusan | there have been a couple minor issues with wine and wow, I had this app hang on exit with 2.1 but it seems to have went away |
| 13:25.53 | wobin | but then again, my laptop wouldn't be able to handle fraps anyway |
| 13:25.56 | Kebinusan | not sure what I did tho |
| 13:26.00 | vhaarr | and before that, I had to apply 1-2 patches to wine and compile it myself, and it also worked fine. |
| 13:26.02 | kenlyric | wow is extremely low-rent graphics compared to other games released in 2004. |
| 13:26.15 | wobin | thank god for that =) |
| 13:26.31 | harldephin | oO |
| 13:26.33 | wobin | I'd hate to have required the specs to run something like Oblivion |
| 13:26.35 | Kebinusan | I just hate running ventrilo on wine |
| 13:26.35 | Stephmw | vhaarr: my biggest love of wow on linux is being able to have applications on top of it |
| 13:26.38 | nevcairiel | wonder with which expansion they add a new gfx engine |
| 13:26.39 | wobin | Kebinusan: totally |
| 13:26.51 | wobin | Kebinusan: Although I think TeamSpeak works more reliably |
| 13:26.53 | vhaarr | Stephmw: well you can probably do that on windows as well somehow |
| 13:27.31 | break19 | kenlyric: theres only a few games I play.. UT2k4, wolfet, wow, freespace2, vendetta online.. all of which have mac clients (and linux clients) |
| 13:27.32 | kenlyric | ok, that's you |
| 13:27.32 | Elkano | no wc3? |
| 13:27.32 | Stephmw | vhaarr: only if you make it windows iirc |
| 13:27.32 | kenlyric | you != me |
| 13:27.32 | Stephmw | vhaarr: err, windowed |
| 13:27.32 | break19 | Elkano: my system isnt powerful enough for wc3 :) |
| 13:27.32 | vhaarr | okay |
| 13:27.50 | break19 | i bought this laptop in 01 |
| 13:27.53 | Kebinusan | I stuff wow on its own desktop then just switch desktops in game |
| 13:28.03 | Stephmw | Kebinusan: solution, run it in windows... in vmware... /hides |
| 13:28.07 | Elkano | ut2k3 and wow but not wc3? don't believe you... ;) |
| 13:28.11 | kenlyric | Stephmw: what are you talking about? |
| 13:28.17 | Tain | So you have a laptop that can't run modern games, and you're complaining that there's no OS support for games that you can't run? |
| 13:28.20 | break19 | 2k4 not 2k3 :) |
| 13:28.21 | Kebinusan | Stephmw: eww, I have vent working in wine its just not the best solution |
| 13:28.32 | wobin | Kebinusan: It keeps crashing out on me |
| 13:28.34 | Kebinusan | you need to run a 3rd app to trap the keyboard input for PTT |
| 13:28.38 | break19 | Tain: who's complaining? :) |
| 13:28.44 | Elkano | 3..4... same shit ;) |
| 13:28.48 | Stephmw | kenlyric: I said Kebinusan, not kenlyric this time ;-) |
| 13:29.07 | Stephmw | Kebinusan: true enough - I run it in listen-only mode |
| 13:29.14 | Kebinusan | and do a couple things so wow doesnt hog the mic line |
| 13:29.21 | kenlyric | still, i don't know what you're talking about, WoW runs wonderfully in windowed mode. |
| 13:29.24 | Kebinusan | yeah I lead raids, so I have to talk |
| 13:29.27 | kenlyric | it's the only goddamn game that does :) |
| 13:29.33 | Stephmw | kenlyric: oh, right |
| 13:29.41 | Stephmw | kenlyric: gotcha, that discussion |
| 13:29.44 | break19 | Elkano: I cant reduce the graphics enough to make wc3 playable, but ut2k4 I can. so.. :) |
| 13:29.46 | kenlyric | I seriously want windowed mode in all of my games |
| 13:29.48 | wobin | Kebinusan: Switch to TeamSpeak =) |
| 13:29.55 | Stephmw | kenlyric: I like having wow fullscreen && still be able to have windows on top |
| 13:30.02 | wobin | I've yet to have an issue with TS on linux |
| 13:30.07 | kenlyric | Stephmw: then it's not full screen. |
| 13:30.11 | Elkano | kenlyric: I play wc3 and hl/hl² windowed, too |
| 13:30.22 | Stephmw | wobin: TS is still OSS afaik |
| 13:30.36 | Stephmw | kenlyric: sure it is, this isn't windows where something has to be either |
| 13:30.44 | Stephmw | kenlyric: it can be FS and still have apps in front |
| 13:30.47 | kenlyric | if you mean "fills the entire screeen", wow does that in windowed mode. |
| 13:30.47 | Kebinusan | wobin, well I have vent working ok for talking, just a few minor issues... and every TS server Ive been on sounds like a couple of tin cans and string |
| 13:30.52 | break19 | Tain: for the record, I wasnt complaing about a lack of games for osx. There's a ton of em, ya just cant find em at walmart :p |
| 13:31.18 | kenlyric | "maximized" Looks exactly like fullscreen mode, but isn't |
| 13:31.20 | Stephmw | Kebinusan: FS by my definition is filling the whole screen, no window decorations and immovable |
| 13:31.25 | wobin | Stephmw: That's true |
| 13:31.41 | kenlyric | Stephmw: that's what "maximized" does |
| 13:31.48 | Kebinusan | yeah thats what maximized does |
| 13:31.48 | kenlyric | it's actually very very sharp. |
| 13:31.50 | wobin | Kebinusan: well, you can always up the codec you use =P |
| 13:31.56 | wobin | It's only cause the default codec sucks |
| 13:32.00 | Stephmw | and it also dismisses your windows taskbar? |
| 13:32.07 | Kebinusan | yea |
| 13:32.13 | Stephmw | news to me, my bad |
| 13:32.18 | kenlyric | it's very nice a dual monitors :) |
| 13:32.21 | break19 | but, dispatch called. I gotta go pick up a trailer and take it to baton rouge LA, and come back home. see ya'll in a few hours. |
| 13:32.43 | wobin | have fun, break19-truckin |
| 13:32.54 | Stephmw | Kebinusan: agreed on TS sound quality |
| 13:32.56 | kenlyric | every time I play my gta games I think, this bitch needs window mode. |
| 13:33.21 | Kebinusan | running wow on beryl hogs a bit too much of my aged CPU to be playable sadly |
| 13:33.28 | Laricwork | how bad is autobar for performance.. I have seen several posts on forums suggesting it is really bad for performance |
| 13:33.28 | wobin | Kebinusan: Agreed |
| 13:33.45 | wobin | Laricwork: You could find out using PErformance_fu |
| 13:34.20 | Laricwork | wobin that isnt easy as much of any addons get attributed to ace2 as I run standalones. |
| 13:34.24 | harldephin | people just don't take enough TIME to setup their mics and programs, because they think that TS is ok when it sounds like tin cans and string, but it's NOT |
| 13:34.35 | Kebinusan | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:34.39 | Kebinusan | bliz hates fun :-( |
| 13:34.53 | kenlyric | of course they do. |
| 13:34.56 | wobin | harldephin: Precisely |
| 13:35.17 | kenlyric | every change they've made since 2.0 has been because things are far too unique. |
| 13:35.21 | wobin | granted, in my case, I have no idea how to set up my mic properly on linux |
| 13:35.24 | Ominous | god this commit is taking ages |
| 13:35.35 | evl | yeah wowace.com having hicups agan |
| 13:35.45 | kenlyric | we're living in the mmo equivalent of harrison bergeron |
| 13:36.05 | Ominous | evl: in answer to your question it will track _YOUR_ buffs and debuffs only |
| 13:36.05 | Kebinusan | kenlyric, heheh |
| 13:36.41 | Stephmw | I got tired of Beryl, went back to a non-GL desktop |
| 13:36.50 | harldephin | of course there are many crappy mics available as well, so buying the right one is at the very start of the line |
| 13:37.06 | evl | Ominous: okay, what about spark? :) |
| 13:37.16 | Ominous | evl: bah i dont know |
| 13:37.17 | wobin | harldephin: yeah, I need a new headset |
| 13:37.29 | Ominous | evl: i prefer it without :P |
| 13:37.33 | evl | Ominous: it's like the ONLY mod with bars that doesn't have spark :P |
| 13:37.53 | evl | even quartz which also doesn't use Candy has sparks, I prefer it visually :P |
| 13:38.13 | Elkano | evl, EBB never had sparks, too |
| 13:38.44 | renchap | wtb eu servers |
| 13:38.51 | kenlyric | this seems a good time to ask.. smartbuff is overbloat for what I need. CorkFu is almost perfect but doesn't cast on click. Is there a mod that will show my missing buffs and privde an easy interface to recast them? |
| 13:38.51 | Elkano | omnius, what exactly are you commiting? |
| 13:38.59 | Ominous | evl: i suppose i can add them |
| 13:39.10 | evl | Ominous: would be nice yes :) |
| 13:39.12 | Ominous | Elkano: a fix for the bars randomly hiding for half a second |
| 13:39.25 | Elkano | for which addon? |
| 13:39.42 | CIA-22 | 03ominous * r37682 10ClassTimer/ (Bars/Mage.lua Bars/Rogue.lua ClassTimer.lua): ClassTimer: possible fix for AllInOne and flashing bars, removed a few non buff abilities |
| 13:39.48 | Ominous | yay |
| 13:39.59 | Ominous | that one |
| 13:40.09 | CIA-22 | 03roartindon * r37683 10Aloft/AloftTag.lua: Aloft: Added "local" for parseTag |
| 13:40.34 | Elkano | ah, k :) |
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| 13:42.05 | kenlyric | so, do all you buffers just remember to keep your own buffs up? |
| 13:42.05 | kenlyric | I have such trouble with inner fire. |
| 13:42.05 | CIA-22 | 03gamefaq * r37684 10Babble-2.2/Babble-Zone-2.2/Babble-Zone-2.2.lua: |
| 13:42.05 | CIA-22 | Babble-2.2: |
| 13:42.05 | CIA-22 | - deDE Update to Babble Zone. |
| 13:42.05 | chutwig | i forget to do fel armor sometimes |
| 13:42.06 | kenlyric | I should just keep using smartbuff. |
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| 13:42.52 | Elkano | well, CorkFu tells me I#m missing the buff and I myself know how to reapply it :P |
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| 13:43.20 | vodrin | corkfu started giving me errors about invalid modules =[ |
| 13:43.30 | abyssichate | Ominous: awesome that you managed to fix the blinking |
| 13:43.37 | Ominous | i dont know |
| 13:43.46 | Ominous | it is unteasted but im sure that is why it happened |
| 13:43.55 | abyssichate | Ok, I'll try it later on |
| 13:44.07 | abyssichate | It happens when a dot expires, not everytime though |
| 13:44.55 | Tuykra | is wowace server down for WAU? |
| 13:45.16 | harldephin | i'm not able to update Automaton using WAU as it keeps telling me "System.Net.WebException: The remote server returned an error: (503) Server Unavailable." and a bunch of additional .Net lines |
| 13:46.28 | Funkeh` | thats because the server is offline.... |
| 13:46.31 | Laricwork | harldephin that means the web server is fubared... |
| 13:46.40 | CIA-22 | 03hati * r37685 10MendWatch/MendWatch-Locale.lua: MendWatch: utf-8 fixes |
| 13:46.43 | harldephin | it's been updating some other things, but now it seems to be off |
| 13:47.10 | Laricwork | Funkeh` if it reports 503 it is not dead... just very close :P |
| 13:47.48 | harldephin | like too many people accessing it simultaniously or something ? |
| 13:48.05 | Ominous | hmm is this patch 2.1.1? |
| 13:48.17 | Ominous | no |
| 13:48.19 | Tornhoof | no |
| 13:48.21 | Ominous | ignore me :0 |
| 13:48.23 | Tornhoof | 2.1.00001 |
| 13:48.23 | Ominous | :)* |
| 13:48.40 | Ominous | how come? |
| 13:48.45 | Tornhoof | the next real patch is afaik that one on june 12th |
| 13:48.48 | kenlyric | I don't know, ignore me. |
| 13:49.01 | kenlyric | there's one on june 12? wut? |
| 13:49.01 | Ominous | ~whalecrit kenlyric |
| 13:49.14 | purl | ACTION crits kenlyric with a mathematically skilled whale named Isaac for #NaN. kenlyric dies |
| 13:49.15 | kenlyric | there needs to be a whalecrit defense. |
| 13:49.18 | harldephin | maybe he gave birth to something |
| 13:49.33 | vhaarr | ~literal whaleblock |
| 13:49.41 | Kebinusan | ~whaleparry Ominous |
| 13:49.42 | purl | ACTION uses a slightly less-huge but eminently more agile killer whale named Edwardo to parry Ominous's attacks. |
| 13:49.46 | vhaarr | ah, parry |
| 13:50.12 | kenlyric | being a fatty on a diet sucks ass. |
| 13:50.36 | kenlyric | i'm hungry and cranky and running across ashenvale |
| 13:50.42 | Kebinusan | drink lots of water |
| 13:50.54 | kenlyric | yeah, my fillings are floating |
| 13:51.00 | Kebinusan | lol |
| 13:51.07 | kenlyric | and shit, I missed my turn. |
| 13:51.07 | Ominous | bah im being stupid again how do i make '%s has %s time left':format work i |
| 13:51.12 | kenlyric | cruse you zoram strand! |
| 13:51.25 | nevcairiel | blizzard claimed to have all realms back up at 15:30 |
| 13:51.32 | nevcairiel | guess what, its 15:50 and still down :P |
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| 13:51.46 | Stephmw | meh, IT deadlines are more like guidelines |
| 13:52.02 | harldephin | ~cuddle purl |
| 13:52.03 | purl | ACTION grabs purl and cuddles until purl begs for mercy |
| 13:52.03 | Iceroth | they just changed it "we are incompetent morons and don't know when they will be back up" |
| 13:52.12 | harldephin | hrhr |
| 13:52.12 | Laricwork | going home to watch the dead realms for a while I guess.. |
| 13:52.14 | nevcairiel | they said at 14:40 that they are actually starting the realms again |
| 13:53.32 | FtH|Daemona | wow, Gurthokk came in at the last moment, before the omen thread derailed into an omen vs ktm and ace2 vs rest flame war ^^ |
| 13:53.53 | dodgizzla | whaddayamean patch downloading! i shoulda stayed in bed :\ |
| 13:53.59 | nevcairiel | oh did i miss new flame again ? :D |
| 13:54.05 | FtH|Daemona | dodgizzla its only 2mb |
| 13:54.18 | dodgizzla | FtH|Daemona: Yeah but.. it's the Blizzard downloader :/ |
| 13:54.35 | FtH|Daemona | yes, for 2 mb ^^ |
| 13:54.41 | FtH|Daemona | nevcairiel -> http://elitistjerks.com/showthread.php?t=12432 |
| 13:54.55 | nevcairiel | ah even moved to ej now :P |
| 13:54.56 | dodgizzla | ah fair enough |
| 13:55.08 | FtH|Daemona | dont worry though, 50% of the severs are still down |
| 13:55.24 | FtH|Daemona | as continents kept randomly crashing after servrs were brough up again at 11am |
| 13:55.39 | dodgizzla | Well if the servers are still offline.. then no one can outbid me \o/ |
| 13:56.55 | dodgizzla | meh, Frostmourne offline.. might as well study then |
| 13:57.24 | harldephin | 2 mb. my hairy back.. *had 24 mb downloaded because nobody seemed to have the 200 kb he was missing before it finally finished* |
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| 13:58.44 | Chompers | damn eu realms |
| 13:59.00 | Chompers | i require my wow fix |
| 13:59.47 | Tuykra | Just downloaded omen, and testing it, but its throwing me up all kinds of errors |
| 14:00.06 | Tuykra | looks like they are all from Threat 1.0 |
| 14:00.54 | Funkeh` | its not ready |
| 14:01.01 | Funkeh` | i would be suprised if it didn't throw errors |
| 14:01.17 | Tuykra | i know, but i thought it was in a condition to start testing it a bit |
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| 14:01.26 | Funkeh` | yeah sure |
| 14:01.40 | Funkeh` | but im not sure if Antiarc| is around |
| 14:02.01 | Chompers | give it a week Tuykra |
| 14:02.06 | nevcairiel | ive read like 2 pages of that ej threat, and only positive stuff |
| 14:02.10 | nevcairiel | wonder where the flame starts :P |
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| 14:02.15 | Chompers | page 3 nev |
| 14:02.44 | Tuykra | yeh i was just going to give it a whirl and if it worked well get my guild to use it to see if theres any problems anywhere |
| 14:03.03 | vodrin | seemed to be a camp of ktm followers being very defensive |
| 14:03.09 | vodrin | against something not even in beta yet |
| 14:03.18 | vodrin | because someone jumped the gun and posted about it on ej ^^ |
| 14:04.07 | Stephmw | there does seem to be a fair amount of anti-Ace sentiment |
| 14:04.22 | vodrin | from 2-3 people though |
| 14:04.35 | Tuykra | should the Threat lib be embedded in the Omen directory? |
| 14:04.38 | vodrin | "ace ui is ugly" |
| 14:04.38 | kenlyric | heh, I have a friend who won't use ace because, according to him, the creator of ace is a scientologist. |
| 14:04.49 | vodrin | haha |
| 14:05.03 | kenlyric | and also, he says it's monkey code... apparently he's never looked at any other mod. |
| 14:05.07 | Chompers | :O |
| 14:05.20 | alext | w00t @ Omen |
| 14:05.21 | kenlyric | this is the dorkus that got me using RDX. |
| 14:05.29 | alext | cant wait for an alternative to ktm |
| 14:06.01 | kenlyric | it wasn't until later that I learned "oh, these are the things they stole from bigwigs, and these are the things they stole from grid" |
| 14:06.13 | Tuykra | RDX is such a bloated mod its ridiculous |
| 14:06.14 | kenlyric | sorry, "were inspred by" |
| 14:06.18 | vhaarr | kenlyric: And XRS. |
| 14:06.19 | Stephmw | kenlyric: time for him to relinquish his 'I am not a cretin' card? |
| 14:06.47 | kenlyric | he's an awesome shadow priest and tank, but his mod decisions are monkey. |
| 14:07.03 | Chompers | monkey monkey |
| 14:07.07 | kenlyric | I still have no idea where the scientology thing comes from. |
| 14:07.07 | Chompers | monkey. |
| 14:07.09 | nevcairiel | i do the mod decisions for my guild :P |
| 14:07.22 | kenlyric | we don't have guild mod decisions |
| 14:07.25 | vhaarr | we don't have any "mod decisions" |
| 14:07.43 | Tornhoof | gkick everyone without bartender nev? |
| 14:07.46 | kenlyric | people only get forced to use things when they fuck up. |
| 14:08.01 | Lilac | Hello! One question: ClosetGnome or Outfitter? Any Idea? |
| 14:08.05 | nevcairiel | we force everyone to use oRA for maintanks and dura checks, and BigWigs because they suck at noticing boss abilitys. |
| 14:08.10 | Chompers | wiping on maiden because they didnt know what stuff happens |
| 14:08.12 | FtH|Daemona | yeah, you gotta do it subtle, like " hey check that out, i tested it but dont tell the others, its not done yet" and i do that with 5 or 10 ppl and most like it and spread it and suddenly the whole guild uses it ;) |
| 14:08.12 | Chompers | that pissed me off |
| 14:08.13 | wobin | That's two questions |
| 14:08.18 | Funkeh` | i prefer anything with gnome in its name |
| 14:08.23 | vhaarr | Lilac: Try both :) |
| 14:08.41 | Funkeh` | vhaarr: outfitter doesn't have gnome in its name! |
| 14:08.43 | kenlyric | nevcairiel: same for us, but mostly just boss mods, and only when they don't know what's going on. |
| 14:08.46 | vhaarr | Funkeh`: true |
| 14:08.55 | vhaarr | that is a downside |
| 14:08.57 | kenlyric | we haven't really cared about dura checks since xpac. |
| 14:09.03 | FtH|Daemona | i prefer the gnome, cause when i shout ohnoes, i save gold ! |
| 14:09.06 | snurre | in my guild i just generally tell people to get this and taht from WAU.. now they generally do so without arguing, since ive shown them so many great addons :p |
| 14:09.08 | kenlyric | but we haven't done any 25 man content yet, either. |
| 14:09.10 | Lilac | Gnome...? uhm somthing to eat? |
| 14:09.17 | wobin | FtH|Daemona: That hardly ever works for me =( |
| 14:09.19 | nevcairiel | yes, you can eat gnomes :) |
| 14:09.20 | kenlyric | with karazhan, if you aren't repaired, we can just kick you out. |
| 14:09.33 | wobin | With my lag, if I don't get oneshotted, I don't have time to put the weapons away |
| 14:09.47 | nevcairiel | its more like in 25 with repair bots "you there go repair, it will despawn in like a minute" :P |
| 14:09.56 | FtH|Daemona | wobin its a script, that fires on hp % ;) |
| 14:10.08 | wobin | FtH|Daemona: I know |
| 14:10.22 | nevcairiel | does it equip the weapons again when you get healed? |
| 14:10.25 | kenlyric | though, to be fair, you can be just as dumb with boss mods. |
| 14:10.26 | Chompers | the OhNoes modules really needs some sort of Arena module |
| 14:10.26 | FtH|Daemona | you'd have to have like 500+ ms to have that not working unless it one-shots you |
| 14:10.30 | wobin | nevcairiel: Well it tries |
| 14:10.37 | Chompers | it unequipped my weapons mid fight |
| 14:10.39 | Tuykra | whats a decent Cooldown time for Action Bars? |
| 14:10.45 | nevcairiel | OmniCC |
| 14:10.50 | FtH|Daemona | OmniCC |
| 14:10.51 | kenlyric | We had a guy keep missing the flame wreath call despite 1) bossmod, 2) aran yelling and 3) Teamspeak |
| 14:10.56 | Lilac | jeha OmniCC is great |
| 14:10.57 | FtH|Daemona | damn nev beat me again |
| 14:11.03 | Tuykra | hehe thanks :) |
| 14:11.09 | wobin | FtH|Daemona: I do =P |
| 14:11.14 | FtH|Daemona | kenlyric use ventrilo ! |
| 14:11.16 | Chompers | kenlyric: have an automated hammer to crush his hands |
| 14:11.16 | kenlyric | cooldowncount |
| 14:11.22 | nevcairiel | well kenlyric: send him to the flash movie "I wont move when flame wreath is cast" :P |
| 14:11.26 | kenlyric | FtH|Daemona: lol, like it matters. |
| 14:11.30 | Tornhoof | electrocution :D |
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| 14:11.44 | kenlyric | I raid(ed) with terminal idiots. What can I say? |
| 14:11.58 | FtH|Daemona | did you ever try ventrilo? the quality gap is humongous |
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| 14:12.19 | nevcairiel | thats true |
| 14:12.23 | kenlyric | it's not like I'm listening to an opera |
| 14:12.25 | nevcairiel | but, ventrilo isnt free anymore |
| 14:12.30 | Chompers | it isnt? |
| 14:12.35 | snurre | 2.1 is |
| 14:12.36 | nevcairiel | unless you use that old version |
| 14:12.43 | kenlyric | TS sounds just fine. |
| 14:12.59 | FtH|Daemona | nevcairiel > http://www.koaschten.de/wow/flamewreath/i_will_not_move.mp3 |
| 14:13.08 | kenlyric | ventrillo client is free. Is the server? |
| 14:13.13 | FtH|Daemona | the 2.1 is |
| 14:13.20 | FtH|Daemona | for private purpose |
| 14:13.32 | nevcairiel | and i like having my whisper key, talking only to a specific group of players, can vent do that? i dont remember :D |
| 14:14.00 | FtH|Daemona | i dont care about whispering |
| 14:14.10 | kenlyric | I honestly don't see why people care. |
| 14:14.12 | FtH|Daemona | i just cant stand that robotic static voices.... |
| 14:14.16 | Stephmw | kenlyric: I disagree with TS sound quality |
| 14:14.21 | kenlyric | I just use whatever happens to be in use. |
| 14:14.33 | Fisker- | I'm pretty sure that the license itself does not allow you to use prior versions of the software |
| 14:14.36 | kenlyric | Stephmw: you may need configure it with a better codec then. |
| 14:14.41 | Lilac | TS has a wisper key? |
| 14:14.42 | Chompers | TS is great sound wise |
| 14:14.44 | Fisker- | But 2.3.0 has a private server for max 10 people i think |
| 14:14.49 | kenlyric | I can perfectly understand everything going on even with multiple people talking. |
| 14:14.52 | FtH|Daemona | Fisker- but can the old license force you to update? ;) |
| 14:14.52 | alext | dude |
| 14:14.53 | wobin | TS has a crappy default codec =) |
| 14:15.02 | abbat-w | agree with wobin |
| 14:15.04 | alext | blizzard needs to make Karazhan training ground |
| 14:15.05 | kenlyric | TS can use a wide range of codecs |
| 14:15.07 | alext | for people that are clueless |
| 14:15.11 | alext | even after seeing shit 50 times |
| 14:15.12 | Fisker- | No FtH|Daemona but that doesn't make it free |
| 14:15.14 | abbat-w | ts codecs crap. not default but all ;) |
| 14:15.22 | snurre | my friend has a 100slot 2.3 ventrilo server |
| 14:15.25 | kenlyric | alext: sure, it's called gkick. |
| 14:15.30 | alext | Karazhan with just bosses and no loot |
| 14:15.30 | Stephmw | kenlyric: don't think TS can use gsm |
| 14:15.39 | alext | kenlyric: i cant gkick 2/3 of the guild |
| 14:15.40 | alext | ;[ |
| 14:15.44 | kenlyric | you can |
| 14:15.47 | kenlyric | you just choose not to. |
| 14:15.51 | alext | yes ;[ |
| 14:15.51 | nevcairiel | or leave and get a new one :P |
| 14:15.56 | wobin | well, until they can make Vent run on linux, I'm sticking to TS |
| 14:16.06 | wobin | cause vent on linux is horrific |
| 14:16.17 | Fisker- | indeed |
| 14:16.19 | kenlyric | I'm not saying the TS codex is awesome. I'm saying it does its function. If I want to listen to music over voice chat, I'll switch to vent. |
| 14:16.20 | Fisker- | and we all like it that way |
| 14:16.21 | Fisker- | OH SNAP |
| 14:16.31 | Tornhoof | speex is awesome |
| 14:16.33 | nevcairiel | someone should write a new, free voice chat thingy |
| 14:17.01 | kenlyric | if you use speex 8bps, yeah, it's going to sound like crap. |
| 14:17.10 | kenlyric | up the codec and get more bandwidth, noob, I say. |
| 14:17.27 | nevcairiel | we run on speex 25.x or something |
| 14:17.30 | Mikk | nevcairiel: but if you succeed, you're going to get millions of users, and then you're going to want to make money on it =P |
| 14:17.33 | nevcairiel | and its acceptable |
| 14:17.59 | Tornhoof | there is nev |
| 14:18.00 | nevcairiel | Mikk: i guess i would make it free for private/personal use, and charge for hosting companies. |
| 14:18.46 | Stephmw | kenlyric: 'get more bandwidth, noob'... that's like me telling you to get a faster machine... |
| 14:19.00 | kenlyric | Stephmw: only for the server, though. |
| 14:19.17 | Tornhoof | nev, mumble is supposed to be nice |
| 14:19.24 | kenlyric | nevcairiel: I think we do 32 ro 24... i can't remember. |
| 14:19.32 | wobin | Tornhoof: Although, with a name like that... =) |
| 14:19.52 | Stephmw | kenlyric: higher bps still raises the client usage, albeit only a little. there are better codecs, it'd be nice if they could be used |
| 14:19.53 | nevcairiel | heh |
| 14:20.00 | FtH|Daemona | nevcairiel i doubt Ace can do that ;) |
| 14:20.07 | kenlyric | better than speex? lies |
| 14:20.12 | Stephmw | kenlyric: things like gsm were specifically created for good quality voice on low-bitrate |
| 14:20.14 | nevcairiel | wonder if TS3 will ever be finished |
| 14:20.25 | Tornhoof | stephmw, there are not many better codecs than speex around |
| 14:20.32 | Tornhoof | those which are, are all heavily patented |
| 14:20.37 | nevcairiel | TS can actually use GSM 16.4 btw |
| 14:20.42 | Tornhoof | and it sux |
| 14:20.57 | nevcairiel | whats a good GSM then ? :p |
| 14:20.57 | Tornhoof | it is not speex which is bad, it is TS i/o |
| 14:21.02 | nevcairiel | ah |
| 14:21.18 | Arrowmaster | TS interface used to crash on me all the time |
| 14:21.49 | Stephmw | Tornhoof: oh, I agree, but there's little sense in arguing patents when TS's sources aren't available to improve it... |
| 14:21.56 | Killmore | my ts can use the speex 25.9kbit |
| 14:21.59 | harldephin | i have no problems with either GSM or Speex |
| 14:22.02 | kenlyric | my old guild had to switch from TS to vent because voices would actually cut out. |
| 14:22.03 | Stephmw | TS really needs a new UI and needs to stop using OSS |
| 14:22.17 | kenlyric | but in this guild they don't, so there's no reason. |
| 14:22.21 | Killmore | the problem with ts is not the codec, ventrilo use the same, its the EQ |
| 14:22.47 | Tornhoof | stephmw, yeh |
| 14:22.50 | Tornhoof | go use mumble :D |
| 14:23.01 | kenlyric | uh, why should it stop using OSS? |
| 14:23.18 | kenlyric | free is good, mmmkay. |
| 14:23.38 | wobin | The sound system |
| 14:23.41 | nevcairiel | my server is still the down |
| 14:23.43 | wobin | not open source =) |
| 14:23.54 | Leialyn | how do I make make a DogTag tag that shows AggroColor if the unit is a npc and ClassColor if the unit is a player? |
| 14:24.03 | Stephmw | kenlyric: OpenSoundSystem in this context |
| 14:24.14 | Stephmw | kenlyric: TS is definately _not_ OpenSourceSoftware |
| 14:24.20 | nevcairiel | lol |
| 14:24.24 | kenlyric | speex is :) |
| 14:24.32 | kenlyric | *cuddles* |
| 14:24.37 | Stephmw | but speex isn't the problem with TS... TS is the problem with TS |
| 14:25.43 | kenlyric | most of the reasoning I hear behind u sing TS over Vent is the TS server is free and Vent isn't, or wasn't at least. |
| 14:25.56 | nevcairiel | Vent "was" free |
| 14:26.01 | nevcairiel | back in version 2.1 |
| 14:26.01 | harldephin | something's wrong with my Aloft. i can't actively change most of its settings (except the bars' textures and 2 or 3 other things) |
| 14:26.11 | wobin | in combat? |
| 14:26.17 | nevcairiel | after that, private servers are limited to 10 slots |
| 14:26.21 | Stephmw | kenlyric: yesh, arguments change over time, but some people have their heads stuck up somewhere dark |
| 14:26.35 | [Ammo] | hrmf |
| 14:26.53 | Mikk | Stephmw: http://mikk.cjb.net/fun/forum-troll/ |
| 14:26.57 | nevcairiel | lookout! its Ammo! Hide! |
| 14:26.58 | kenlyric | or the argument is "it doesn't matter, because both work. If they don't, then pick the one that works" |
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| 14:27.06 | Stephmw | That's exactly what I had in mind |
| 14:27.09 | Roartindon | harldephin: What settings aren't working for you? |
| 14:27.11 | nevcairiel | lol Mikk |
| 14:27.30 | kenlyric | it's sorta the way I feel about mods and operating systems. |
| 14:28.04 | nevcairiel | so you will keep KTM because it "works" ? :P |
| 14:28.06 | Fisker- | any EU players here? |
| 14:28.11 | nevcairiel | yes |
| 14:28.29 | [Ammo] | the general answer wuol dbe yes Fisker |
| 14:28.32 | Megalon | files.wowace.com down? :x |
| 14:28.35 | [Ammo] | but now for the real question |
| 14:28.37 | Fisker- | Is your system also sluggish while on the logon frame? |
| 14:28.43 | Killmore | Megalon :( |
| 14:28.48 | Fisker- | Mine became pretty sluggish with the extra patch |
| 14:28.49 | nevcairiel | i dont generally stay on the addon frame too long |
| 14:28.55 | nevcairiel | but let me test |
| 14:29.02 | nevcairiel | eh logon |
| 14:29.03 | Fisker- | addon frame? :o |
| 14:29.05 | Fisker- | ah ok |
| 14:29.05 | Fisker- | :P |
| 14:29.06 | kenlyric | nevcairiel: it's not really the same situation, since KTM directly affects my play expereince by working badly. |
| 14:29.14 | Fisker- | i am there pretty much because OMG RAVENCREST DOWN |
| 14:29.22 | Fisker- | (Yes you have to scream when your server is down) |
| 14:29.24 | nevcairiel | my server is still down too |
| 14:29.29 | kenlyric | TS doesn't work badly. I can perfectly understand everyon that talks on it. That's all it has to do. |
| 14:29.31 | vodrin | omg sunstrider down |
| 14:29.41 | CIA-22 | 03jncl * r37686 10Skinner/AddonSkins/ (GuildBankAccount.lua Tablet.lua): |
| 14:29.41 | CIA-22 | Skinner: QuestsFu_Tracker not skinned anymore |
| 14:29.41 | CIA-22 | - GuildBankAccount button moved |
| 14:29.42 | vodrin | see, mine sounds like i've been special and killed a hard boss |
| 14:29.43 | Fisker- | you didn't scream! |
| 14:29.46 | nevcairiel | and no it doesnt seem to be slugish |
| 14:29.49 | vodrin | but infact its just the slacky server |
| 14:29.50 | Fisker- | hmm |
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| 14:29.51 | Fisker- | weird |
| 14:29.59 | Mikk | TS + more than one person talking + RL with Glasgow accent = wtf is he saying? |
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| 14:30.22 | vodrin | heh scottish accents ftw |
| 14:30.24 | kenlyric | yes, TS may be the reason we could never understand our australian member. |
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| 14:30.40 | Ordog | crap half an hour lost by telnetting to towel.blinkenlights.nl ^^ |
| 14:30.46 | kenlyric | but, you couldn't understand him when he typed either, so I suspect not. |
| 14:30.46 | nevcairiel | whats the "lag" on vent? |
| 14:30.47 | wobin | I've never understood how people can't understand the australian accent =P |
| 14:30.48 | Ordog | old skoool ^^ |
| 14:31.04 | kenlyric | wobin: I can just fine. Just not this one :) |
| 14:31.04 | Mikk | ozzie accents are fine |
| 14:31.32 | Mikk | even the worst dawl from the australian outback can't measure up to the grotesque mess that is Glasgow scottish |
| 14:31.38 | Mikk | dawl=drawl |
| 14:31.47 | Stephmw | wobin: ozzie is fine, it's USian I have problems with |
| 14:32.01 | vodrin | racist! |
| 14:32.07 | harldephin | Roartindon: the width and height of the health bar for example. if i change those settings, the nameplate of one(1) creature in my view is being changed, but as soon as nameplates get disabled and enabled, they are all the same again, like it loads default values for them instead of the ones i gave it |
| 14:32.33 | kenlyric | There's a good chunk in the middle that have no accents at all, because we just mix them all together :) |
| 14:32.36 | Stephmw | vodrin: you can't be racist against a language :D |
| 14:32.42 | Roartindon | harldephin: I'll check into it once my wow client decides to stop hanging on "handshaking" during login |
| 14:32.45 | kenlyric | you can against a dialect |
| 14:32.52 | Mikk | LINGUIST |
| 14:32.53 | Mikk | o wait |
| 14:32.56 | Stephmw | haha |
| 14:32.57 | vodrin | lol |
| 14:33.05 | vodrin | check the news, everything is racism silly |
| 14:33.11 | deltron | http://www.microsoft.com/surface/ |
| 14:33.18 | deltron | ^^ looks familiar |
| 14:33.22 | Stephmw | so... what defines a dialect vs. a language? |
| 14:33.55 | vodrin | isn't dialect a subset of a language |
| 14:33.59 | Roartindon | harldephin: Are you in combat? |
| 14:34.00 | Mikk | languages can't mate and have little lingos? |
| 14:34.03 | kenlyric | on a basica level? languages have different words. |
| 14:34.04 | harldephin | Roartindon: no |
| 14:34.20 | Mikk | as do dialects tbh :-P |
| 14:34.40 | kenlyric | not in any major way, and usually they're just pronunciation alterations of the same words. |
| 14:34.48 | kenlyric | the line is very, very grey. |
| 14:34.52 | Mikk | It's mostly a matter of convention tbh |
| 14:35.04 | kenlyric | there are dialects of... cantonese I think which are practically indecipherable to one another. |
| 14:35.18 | Mikk | Dialects of chinese |
| 14:35.38 | Mikk | of which cantonese is one |
| 14:35.39 | Mikk | right? o.O |
| 14:35.41 | wobin | Mandarin and cantonese are dialects |
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| 14:35.46 | Mikk | Idd |
| 14:35.49 | Stephmw | kenlyric: then I certainly define USian to be a language of its own... with maybe 4 dialects |
| 14:35.57 | wobin | Shanghainese is also a dialect |
| 14:35.58 | Roartindon | harldephin: Modified my realmlist.wtf file.. now getting an update |
| 14:36.08 | Roartindon | I'll see what happens when this finishes |
| 14:36.08 | kenlyric | Stephmw: well, you might. But the people who actually know this stuff don't. |
| 14:36.32 | Stephmw | kenlyric: 's always nice when an expert in the field steps forward to illuminate us. |
| 14:36.36 | Megalon | german is only a dialect of austrian :P |
| 14:36.45 | Stephmw | kenlyric: thank you |
| 14:36.45 | Roartindon | harldephin: Any error messages? |
| 14:36.56 | Mikk | well, there's not much to "know" here really since there's only convention :-P |
| 14:37.05 | Mikk | (though you can know what the convention is i suppose) |
| 14:37.24 | kenlyric | huh, what? I never said I was an expert. Just that you are wrong. |
| 14:37.36 | wobin | and indeed, the amount of cantonese and mandarin that is similar enough to be identifiable is only about, say 30% |
| 14:37.37 | Stephmw | So anyway, USian is pretty much undecipherable via speex on low-bitrate |
| 14:37.47 | harldephin | Roartindon: [2007/05/30 16:27:01-772-x1]: Aloft\AloftTag.lua:3: Cannot find a library instance of TagCompiler-1.0. |
| 14:37.53 | kenlyric | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_dialects_of_the_English_language |
| 14:37.55 | wobin | That's a personal guesstimate |
| 14:37.58 | wobin | btw |
| 14:38.02 | Roartindon | harldephin: Install TagCompiler then |
| 14:38.14 | Roartindon | That might just fix your problems...... |
| 14:38.27 | Punkie` | When was TagCompiler added? |
| 14:38.35 | Mikk | last night |
| 14:38.36 | Roartindon | Yesterday |
| 14:38.42 | wobin | night! |
| 14:38.50 | Mikk | wasn't added so much as broken out of aloft |
| 14:38.52 | Punkie` | is it added as an extra, or seperated from the base code? |
| 14:38.58 | Punkie` | ah thats cool |
| 14:39.03 | Roartindon | Pulled out of Aloft |
| 14:39.10 | Punkie` | i like to hear those things :> |
| 14:39.11 | Roartindon | because I'm using it for some other experimental code I have atm |
| 14:39.20 | kenlyric | trolls use higher bitrates anyway. |
| 14:39.25 | kenlyric | ;) |
| 14:39.44 | Stephmw | kenlyric: anyway, all that aside... alliance sucks. |
| 14:39.45 | Saroz | wowace.com/files dead? |
| 14:39.53 | Mikk | seems so yes |
| 14:39.53 | kenlyric | agreed |
| 14:39.56 | yacoob | he's over there, in the bushes! |
| 14:40.02 | nevcairiel | full wowace kinda slow today |
| 14:41.04 | harldephin | Roartindon: ok, will do. as soon as files.wowace.com's available again |
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| 14:42.08 | kenlyric | Stephmw: if you've ever wondered why you can't understand americans (and canadians do use a lot of US words) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_American_words_not_widely_used_in_the_United_Kingdom |
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| 14:44.33 | vodrin | 'airplane' |
| 14:44.35 | vodrin | oh noes |
| 14:44.35 | kbh | must.change.omen.window.size |
| 14:44.36 | Necrathex | burglarize ^_^ |
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| 14:45.33 | harldephin | bulgarianize? |
| 14:45.41 | kenlyric | I've always like burgle more. |
| 14:46.41 | vodrin | you know wow servers are down when you resort to a word list on wikipedia :< |
| 14:46.43 | kenlyric | but, I grew up on the hobbit. I also prefer grey |
| 14:46.51 | harldephin | :) |
| 14:47.33 | Saroz | so wtf is DBM |
| 14:48.07 | kenlyric | Deadly Bigwigs Mod? |
| 14:48.32 | Necrathex | Doh Bloated Memory |
| 14:48.51 | Fisker- | that's weird |
| 14:48.52 | nevcairiel | DBM is that Bossmod-clone which allows raidleaders to log you out whenever they please |
| 14:49.04 | Ominous | rofl |
| 14:49.13 | Ominous | isnt that abit far? |
| 14:49.17 | Fisker- | The performance issues with the WoW client disappears after i've went past the login face and went on a server(char selection) |
| 14:49.17 | kenlyric | that really is a good feature. |
| 14:49.18 | Ominous | logging members out |
| 14:49.19 | nevcairiel | i like to think so |
| 14:49.23 | kenlyric | can it also delete your chars? |
| 14:49.31 | vhaarr | Fisker-: I have the same problem. |
| 14:49.41 | vhaarr | Fisker-: As long as the login screen is visible, everything lags. |
| 14:49.57 | harldephin | kenlyric: please delete Ffhhdsad and Rjjgering for me |
| 14:49.58 | vhaarr | kenlyric: shh, don't tell anyone! |
| 14:50.09 | Fisker- | yeah |
| 14:50.15 | Fisker- | WoW takes up a CPU during the login screen |
| 14:50.27 | nevcairiel | one full cpu? how dare it. |
| 14:50.30 | Fisker- | yarr |
| 14:50.34 | kenlyric | i'd like a delete char option for anyone that triggers flame wreath three times in their lifetime. |
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| 14:50.45 | kenlyric | Allow one, disconnect for two, delete char for three |
| 14:50.45 | vhaarr | it's a conspiracy with intel/amd |
| 14:50.46 | harldephin | my graphics card is alway heating up when i'm at the login screen |
| 14:50.51 | Fisker- | triggering is like impossible |
| 14:50.57 | Fisker- | triggering it* |
| 14:50.58 | vhaarr | it's so that they can say "having two CPUs actually improves your performance with WoW" |
| 14:51.04 | Fisker- | hehe |
| 14:51.14 | nevcairiel | hehe yeah |
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| 14:51.54 | nevcairiel | man seriously, i needed to farm some mana potions before the raid, now the servers are still gone =P |
| 14:52.33 | nevcairiel | and i am too lazy to drycode right now, i feel better with direct results :o |
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| 14:53.38 | renchap | what are the main differences between SanityBags and Baggins ? |
| 14:53.44 | vhaarr | anyone tested my DBMFTLBBQ yet? |
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| 14:54.05 | nevcairiel | no, where is it? |
| 14:54.13 | vhaarr | svn |
| 14:54.15 | Borked|Raider | anyone got path to the icon with the "?" marker on ? |
| 14:54.31 | Borked|Raider | or where i find such info |
| 14:54.42 | Funkeh` | vhaarr: it needs testing? :p |
| 14:54.49 | Borked|Raider | itemTexture ect |
| 14:54.58 | vhaarr | Funkeh`: yes, I don't know anyone with DBM, so I have no idea if it works |
| 14:55.19 | Funkeh` | ah |
| 14:55.29 | nevcairiel | i would like an addon to actually query DBM versions, to see who resists my orders to switch to BigWigs :P |
| 14:55.46 | Saroz | so wtf is DBM |
| 14:55.49 | vhaarr | nevcairiel: feel free to add that, I don't care :P |
| 14:56.05 | Fisker- | well Borked|Raider you can check the MPQ files :P |
| 14:56.05 | Saroz | ah nm |
| 14:56.05 | kenlyric | nevcairiel: now, that's a bit much to order people to switch boss mods. |
| 14:56.06 | Funkeh` | nevcairiel: you can use an addon like versionchecker |
| 14:56.14 | Funkeh` | nevcairiel: presuming they are using a copy of acecomm |
| 14:56.22 | [Ammo] | "switch now!" "JAWOHL HERR OBERWACHTMEISTER!" |
| 14:56.27 | harldephin | omg |
| 14:56.28 | Funkeh` | wtf |
| 14:56.29 | Borked|Raider | fisker, i hate to look around in those, never finding what i need :P |
| 14:56.46 | Funkeh` | i think [Ammo] became enraged |
| 14:56.57 | nevcairiel | kenlyric: its not imho. I know how BigWigs works and i know what it announces. so i can actually blame them when they missed it. i dont know that stuff about DBM |
| 14:57.11 | kenlyric | that's just silly. |
| 14:57.28 | kenlyric | SILLY I SAY! |
| 14:57.30 | Silviu- | One in my guild switched to Dbm and he said is more accurate |
| 14:57.39 | Silviu- | But i don`t believe him :) |
| 14:57.46 | kenlyric | I've had people tell me the exact same thing about bigwigs, and they're just as silly. |
| 14:58.01 | nevcairiel | prolly luck with cooldown timers :P |
| 14:58.03 | vodrin | whats the point in 'Imbued Unstable Diamond' requiring exactly 3 yellow gems |
| 14:58.11 | vodrin | thats just, harsh |
| 14:58.23 | Funkeh` | thats why i changed everything to OMG ITS A COOLDOWN NOOBS FFS |
| 14:58.42 | nevcairiel | you know, people cant read. |
| 14:58.46 | Funkeh` | also known as '~cooldown ability' |
| 14:59.17 | Iceroth | http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=1705.msg106277#msg106277 <-- what could possibly be causing that? O.o |
| 14:59.29 | vhaarr | Silviu-: Ask him to be more specific, then. |
| 14:59.39 | vhaarr | Silviu-: It's nothing we can't fix. |
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| 15:00.18 | nevcairiel | lol i like that quit message |
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| 15:00.35 | Iceroth | :p |
| 15:00.36 | vhaarr | quote it please |
| 15:00.43 | nevcairiel | "Saying Java is cool, because it works on all platforms, is like saying anal-sex is cool because it works on all genders." |
| 15:00.57 | deltron | wowwwwwww |
| 15:00.58 | deltron | lol |
| 15:01.18 | Funkeh` | lol |
| 15:01.22 | kenlyric | well, the second one is true. |
| 15:01.26 | harldephin | :-x |
| 15:01.31 | Fisker- | Bigwigs is cool because: 1. Informative, not intrusive 2. Optimized 3. Faggots can't log me off like they can with DBM |
| 15:01.37 | kenlyric | that's not a good simile at all. epic fail. |
| 15:01.48 | Funkeh` | rofl Fisker- |
| 15:01.52 | kenlyric | Fisker-: 4. dropdown notifications. |
| 15:01.56 | Funkeh` | i love the way you said #3 |
| 15:01.59 | Silviu- | vhaarr he said something about Magtheridon`s Casting Blast Nova that in his Dbm is more exact but don`t know i find it accurate in BigWigs too |
| 15:02.05 | Fisker- | dropdown notifications? |
| 15:02.06 | Funkeh` | 'faggots' awesome word |
| 15:02.06 | deltron | my guild relies too much on deadly boss mods |
| 15:02.11 | vhaarr | Silviu-: okay |
| 15:02.16 | deltron | I'm like omg go with big wigs |
| 15:02.26 | Funkeh` | don't log me off faggot |
| 15:02.26 | nevcairiel | people shouldnt really rely on bossmods anyway |
| 15:02.27 | kenlyric | Fisker-: when the bar drops down in front of your face to scream at you something is about to happen |
| 15:02.33 | Fisker- | ah |
| 15:02.33 | nevcairiel | they tend to screw up when a timer is wrong |
| 15:02.39 | Fisker- | yeah those are cool too |
| 15:02.44 | vhaarr | nevcairiel: indeed |
| 15:02.45 | kenlyric | DBM doesn't (or didn't) have those. |
| 15:02.55 | Fisker- | Seriously if some idiot decides to spend 15 minutes of the raid's time logging him off will be the least of my worries |
| 15:03.18 | Fisker- | insert , where needed :P |
| 15:03.20 | vhaarr | sigh, server still down |
| 15:03.24 | nevcairiel | mine too :( |
| 15:03.25 | Funkeh` | kenlyric its called emphasized bars |
| 15:03.30 | Fisker- | and mine :( |
| 15:03.31 | nevcairiel | i need to work on my new mod! |
| 15:03.35 | Silviu- | mine is on but "Retrieving char list for over 30 mins |
| 15:03.35 | Silviu- | ;)) |
| 15:03.41 | kenlyric | meh, they can emphasize at the top just fine. |
| 15:03.44 | kenlyric | they're dropdown bars! |
| 15:03.57 | Funkeh` | lol |
| 15:04.01 | kenlyric | they... drop... down |
| 15:04.02 | Funkeh` | but mine drop up |
| 15:04.05 | dotted | Fisker- how do i log ppl off with DBM? I wanna punish my guild :D::D:D |
| 15:04.11 | Iceroth | dropdown is the thing in ui/web page that you select values from >.< |
| 15:04.16 | Fisker- | i don't know anymore :P |
| 15:04.20 | [Ammo] | dotted: get raid assistant |
| 15:04.20 | dotted | damn |
| 15:04.25 | Fisker- | just heard some guys here talking about it |
| 15:04.29 | [Ammo] | and do /dbm logout <person> |
| 15:04.30 | dotted | [Ammo]? |
| 15:04.30 | [Ammo] | I think |
| 15:04.32 | nevcairiel | yeah you need assist or lead |
| 15:04.35 | dotted | lol |
| 15:04.46 | kenlyric | that's so amazing. |
| 15:04.50 | Kebinusan | does it only check on running the function |
| 15:04.53 | nevcairiel | i love that assists can do all the stuff lead can do now |
| 15:04.57 | nevcairiel | thats so great. |
| 15:05.02 | Funkeh` | aye |
| 15:05.07 | kenlyric | we need to advertise that feature more so it gets abused. |
| 15:05.08 | Funkeh` | assistants can move people around a raid |
| 15:05.11 | Kebinusan | cause you could probabbly do the send message part yourself and logout the dbm people |
| 15:05.12 | Funkeh` | thats 100% AWESOME |
| 15:05.15 | nevcairiel | our stupid L has his raid ui tainted |
| 15:05.17 | nevcairiel | and cannot move in combat |
| 15:05.24 | Kebinusan | I kinda like that feature |
| 15:05.30 | kenlyric | everytime anyone mentions bigwigs or DBM on forums, give instructions to the logout feature. |
| 15:05.43 | Fisker- | seriously |
| 15:05.44 | Ominous | whats the string escape for the end character |
| 15:05.50 | Fisker- | we should just send an email to slouken |
| 15:05.51 | Ominous | i mean end of string |
| 15:05.53 | kenlyric | Kebinusan: you haven't considered how much fun that could be to abuse. |
| 15:05.54 | Kebinusan | As a raid lead if soemone goes afk during a raid the logout feature would be very handy honestly |
| 15:06.01 | Fisker- | and make him make it a protected feature |
| 15:06.04 | kenlyric | just kick them out of the raid. |
| 15:06.05 | Kebinusan | kenlyric I have considered it |
| 15:06.14 | Kebinusan | kicking someone from the raid doesnt remove them from the instance |
| 15:06.16 | kenlyric | it's not rocket surgery. |
| 15:06.20 | kenlyric | it does in 60 seconds |
| 15:06.22 | Kebinusan | no |
| 15:06.24 | snurre | in a raid, youre most likely saved to the instance, so they wont get kicked |
| 15:06.25 | Funkeh` | no |
| 15:06.27 | Kebinusan | cause they are saved to the instance as well |
| 15:06.30 | Funkeh` | not if they are saved |
| 15:06.34 | kenlyric | what, that's dumb. |
| 15:06.39 | snurre | very |
| 15:06.42 | kenlyric | is that new? |
| 15:06.44 | Fisker- | Still doesn't matter |
| 15:06.45 | Funkeh` | no |
| 15:06.47 | Funkeh` | ancient |
| 15:06.48 | Kebinusan | thats exactly why Id like the logout feature sometimes |
| 15:06.53 | kenlyric | I used to get booted out of MC all the time. |
| 15:06.58 | snurre | givf /ora logout <name> :p |
| 15:06.59 | nevcairiel | blizzard should really make them get ported even when being saved |
| 15:07.01 | Funkeh` | imo |
| 15:07.03 | nevcairiel | for not being in a raid group. |
| 15:07.06 | Fisker- | If a person decides to waste 15 minutes or more of 24 other people's time, i'd say the logging out part would be the LEAST of his worries |
| 15:07.13 | Funkeh` | if you wwant someone out the raid for another person ad he doesn't listen |
| 15:07.17 | Funkeh` | its not logout you want |
| 15:07.21 | Funkeh` | its /gkick |
| 15:07.32 | vodrin | what about /afk |
| 15:07.32 | Fisker- | exactly |
| 15:07.38 | Funkeh` | still /gkick |
| 15:07.41 | Funkeh` | afk during raid? |
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| 15:07.48 | Funkeh` | -dkp or /gkick |
| 15:07.51 | nevcairiel | only during official breaks :P |
| 15:07.58 | vodrin | toilet break |
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| 15:08.04 | Funkeh` | thats different |
| 15:08.07 | Funkeh` | then you know hes afk |
| 15:08.09 | Kebinusan | dkp and gkick doesnt resolve the issue of someone holding up your raid cause you cant get another person in there |
| 15:08.11 | snurre | you used to get kicked out of raid instances too, but that was before you got saved instantly when you entered a saved raid instance |
| 15:08.11 | Funkeh` | im talking aobut ninja afk |
| 15:08.21 | Funkeh` | when you know someone is afk for a reaosn why log them out |
| 15:08.25 | Funkeh` | reason* |
| 15:08.26 | kenlyric | it solves the issue eventually :) |
| 15:08.47 | kenlyric | snurre: when did that happen? |
| 15:08.48 | Funkeh` | Kebinusan: neither does logging them out |
| 15:08.57 | snurre | kenlyric: a very long time ago |
| 15:09.00 | kenlyric | along with the combat pulses bosses gave in 1.9? |
| 15:09.03 | Kebinusan | logging them out does very quickly |
| 15:09.10 | nevcairiel | if loged out, another person can enter |
| 15:09.14 | Funkeh` | if you have no one to replace them with? ehh |
| 15:09.17 | Funkeh` | not quite |
| 15:09.19 | nevcairiel | well no then not :P |
| 15:09.37 | Silviu- | 1 week ago we had one member that trashed our Karathes raid .. he fall asleep on keyboard and we waited for 30 mins but nothing .. maybe he just pressed keys with his had or something and did not disconect so we can get a new member inside ;) |
| 15:09.47 | nevcairiel | lol |
| 15:09.50 | Silviu- | head* |
| 15:10.14 | Silviu- | Was funny .. |
| 15:10.17 | Funkeh` | rofl |
| 15:10.22 | Silviu- | we moved him to another chan in Vent |
| 15:10.26 | Silviu- | and put him loud music |
| 15:10.29 | nevcairiel | that reminds me, i hope we get to karathres again today, cool fight, and we killed him yesterday for the first time .. our first day on him :) |
| 15:10.30 | Silviu- | Maybe he wakes up ^^ |
| 15:10.52 | Silviu- | We managed yesterday Hydross first time :) |
| 15:10.58 | kenlyric | I know why people like that don't get kicked, but it makes me glad I don't run a guild. I'd probably not have any members. |
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| 15:11.35 | Funkeh` | im an officer and sometimes raid lead, i know the feeling 'can i please kick him' |
| 15:11.48 | Keias | It was always the opposite for me |
| 15:11.50 | Fisker- | to be honest though it makes no sense that they can stay in a raid instance without being in a raid |
| 15:11.53 | CIA-22 | 03ominous * r37687 10ClassTimer/ (ClassTimer.lua Locales/enUS.lua Locales/koKR.lua): |
| 15:11.53 | CIA-22 | ClassTimer: |
| 15:11.53 | CIA-22 | -Right Click on bars now sends time left and move name to party/raid |
| 15:11.53 | CIA-22 | -Added Spark |
| 15:11.59 | Keias | I wanted to keep people in as others wanted them out lol |
| 15:12.00 | Kebinusan | I kick people but then they just join our alt guild |
| 15:12.04 | Fisker- | Perhaps we should write both to slouken :P |
| 15:12.05 | Kebinusan | <I HAVE CANDY GET IN VAN> |
| 15:12.07 | nevcairiel | Funkeh`: guess we all know that .. being a raid lead my self..^^ |
| 15:12.21 | Funkeh` | lol Kebinusan |
| 15:12.26 | Kebinusan | heheh |
| 15:12.35 | Antiarc|Work | Hey, cool, Kenco showed up in the Omen thread on EJ. |
| 15:12.38 | Ominous | evl: happy now? :P |
| 15:12.48 | [Ammo] | Antiarc|Work: haha |
| 15:12.49 | Fisker- | linkz0r Antiarc|Sleeps |
| 15:12.51 | Fisker- | Antiarc|Work |
| 15:12.56 | deltron | I made a banker toon only guild named <Banker> |
| 15:12.58 | Antiarc|Work | http://elitistjerks.com/showthread.php?t=12432&page=3 |
| 15:12.58 | evl | Ominous: see me dance? |
| 15:13.10 | Ominous | evl: huh? |
| 15:13.14 | Kebinusan | With the whole threat meter thing, cant you track multiple targets with the same name like the new debuff system does? |
| 15:13.23 | evl | Ominous: No cause this is the internet but I AM :D |
| 15:13.28 | Ominous | :D |
| 15:13.47 | Gagorian | Kebinusan: There's no way to tell which mob with the same name a damage spell hit |
| 15:14.03 | Kebinusan | I thought there was in 2.1 |
| 15:14.07 | deltron | Antiarc|Work: lol more drama over ktm? |
| 15:14.12 | Antiarc|Work | Yes indeedy. |
| 15:14.28 | nevcairiel | With profiling disabled, KTM uses 0.5% processor on my system <-- wonder how he measures that then :rolleyes: |
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| 15:14.48 | Antiarc|Work | nevcairiel: He's the only one I've ever heard of with numbers like that |
| 15:14.53 | Antiarc|Work | Or he's running KTMCPUManager! |
| 15:15.02 | Funkeh` | lol |
| 15:15.03 | nevcairiel | maybe all his other addons use even more? |
| 15:15.15 | Funkeh` | but be some shitty addons |
| 15:15.18 | Kebinusan | He should be happy someone else is taking up the threat meter concept and running with it |
| 15:15.21 | vodrin | Gagorian; there is to yourself using current debuffs on the target, how you'd tell others which mob was the one you were hitting i don't know though |
| 15:15.22 | alext | Kebinusan: I was thinking the same thing about 2.1 and tracking |
| 15:15.23 | nevcairiel | Kenco UI Compilation, I have CPU, why not use it ? :P |
| 15:15.25 | Funkeh` | if every addon i had used 3% cpu i would be worried |
| 15:15.26 | snurre | probably using DAB :p |
| 15:15.38 | alext | i know for the addon dotimer, it can now reliably track dots on 2 targets with the same name and level |
| 15:15.47 | alext | and that was due to some blizzard API changes or somethin |
| 15:16.02 | Gagorian | vodrin: But what about all damage without debuffs? :P |
| 15:16.05 | vodrin | it saves a table of the known debuffs, and checks its tables against current target |
| 15:16.07 | alext | got me there |
| 15:16.11 | alext | ;] |
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| 15:16.30 | Gagorian | You see, there's plenty of stuff that can't be determined on what it hits |
| 15:16.44 | alext | ahh |
| 15:17.12 | Gagorian | Debuffs are fine, but hardly the biggest source of threat |
| 15:17.21 | Gagorian | So, it would still be inaccurate |
| 15:18.12 | Funkeh` | are EU servers up yet? |
| 15:18.17 | nevcairiel | mine not :( |
| 15:18.19 | Fisker- | who's winning the discussion Antiarc|Work? :P |
| 15:18.19 | nevcairiel | some are tho |
| 15:18.20 | CIA-22 | 03antiarc * r37688 10Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0/ClassModules/Druid.lua: Threat-1.0: SUM DRUIDS R CATZ (and get a 29% threat reduction) |
| 15:18.22 | Fisker- | yeah Funkeh` but not mine |
| 15:18.29 | Iceroth | lol :p |
| 15:18.38 | Funkeh` | lol Antiarc| |
| 15:18.42 | Iceroth | the commit notes are getting better and better :p |
| 15:18.42 | deltron | Antiarc|Work: I salute your bravery in the face of the drama that is ktm |
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| 15:18.56 | Antiarc|Work | Fisker-: I'm not even going to get into a flame war with Kenco. He's obviously convinced that his way is better and won't listen to anyone saying otherwise. |
| 15:19.16 | vodrin | it doesnt really matter anyway |
| 15:19.17 | Fisker- | :( |
| 15:19.20 | Fisker- | But flamewars are fun |
| 15:19.24 | nevcairiel | i still wonder how he measures performance, when he turns the measurements off to save their overhead. |
| 15:19.29 | Fisker- | The user base will find out soon enough anyways |
| 15:19.35 | vodrin | exactly |
| 15:19.37 | hypetech | is everyone having trouble connecting to the updater or just me? |
| 15:19.52 | Funkeh` | Antiarc|Work: did you read my EJ post? |
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| 15:21.19 | Fisker- | I don't know all that modding stuff though but the recent improvements in memory usage and fps generally are astonishing |
| 15:21.38 | Fisker- | I was usually having less than 30 FPS in cities, now i have 40-50FPS |
| 15:21.40 | nevcairiel | Funkeh`: did you read the thread before? :P he already stated to not use bigwigs |
| 15:21.50 | Antiarc|Work | Funkeh`: I already decided against using BigWigs :) |
| 15:22.01 | Fisker- | My memory usage is down to 32MiB starting and the cpu usage is around 4% overall i think |
| 15:22.01 | Antiarc|Work | I looked at the various boss modules and realized that threat clears would be easy to keep in the mod itself. |
| 15:22.03 | Funkeh` | i know, im reinforcing that :p |
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| 15:22.26 | Funkeh` | im talking about recieving syncs should be relatevely easy |
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| 15:23.04 | nevcairiel | i already see my raid being cancelled today |
| 15:23.09 | nevcairiel | still no servers :( |
| 15:23.16 | Fisker- | :(! |
| 15:23.19 | Kinkx | Not one single maintenance goes by without massive problems afterwards these days >_< |
| 15:23.25 | Fisker- | Atleast your guild didn't get split up |
| 15:23.38 | nevcairiel | only twice so far |
| 15:23.41 | hypetech | I don't see any realms down..... |
| 15:23.43 | dodgizzla | nevcairiel: Never raid on patch day :> |
| 15:23.51 | Iceroth | stormreaver is down at least |
| 15:23.54 | nevcairiel | it wasnt supposed to be patch day! |
| 15:24.01 | Iceroth | burning blade too actually since my modding toons are there |
| 15:24.01 | nevcairiel | and its a minor patch -.-^^ |
| 15:24.04 | dodgizzla | nevcairiel: Yeah well you never know :P |
| 15:24.09 | dodgizzla | After all it's Blizzard... |
| 15:24.16 | [Ammo] | Antiarc|Work: just grab the threat clear triggers from BigWigs, as in the actual strings |
| 15:24.18 | dodgizzla | Everyday could be patch day! |
| 15:24.26 | Iceroth | they let the summer trainees in after 2.1 was succesfully patched -.- |
| 15:24.31 | [Ammo] | Antiarc|Work: even DBM steals our module stuff, so you're free to use the info in the modules :) |
| 15:24.37 | nevcairiel | yeah 2.1 last week went pretty smooth |
| 15:24.38 | Antiarc|Work | [Ammo]: That requires BW be installed, which I don't want to do |
| 15:24.44 | [Ammo] | euhm |
| 15:24.44 | hypetech | I <3 DBM |
| 15:24.48 | Antiarc|Work | Unless you mean copy-paste, which I intend to do rather bold-facedly. |
| 15:24.53 | [Ammo] | yeah |
| 15:24.53 | nevcairiel | lol |
| 15:24.53 | hypetech | Iceroth stormreaver is up man |
| 15:24.55 | [Ammo] | that's what I meant |
| 15:25.06 | Iceroth | eu? no it's not |
| 15:25.14 | nevcairiel | half EU is down |
| 15:25.17 | hypetech | oooo |
| 15:25.18 | hypetech | ok |
| 15:25.19 | hypetech | nvm |
| 15:25.20 | nevcairiel | who cares about US anyway |
| 15:25.21 | nevcairiel | :D |
| 15:25.25 | hypetech | :p |
| 15:25.40 | Iceroth | you mean some US servers are still down? |
| 15:25.42 | harldephin | so my realm's still down. what do i do next.. |
| 15:25.43 | hypetech | no |
| 15:25.47 | [Ammo] | Antiarc|Work: I got a bug report from some guildmembers that only a few people showed up on the threat lists |
| 15:25.50 | hypetech | I dont' see any US realms down |
| 15:25.53 | [Ammo] | 3 or so while a lot more had it installed |
| 15:25.58 | hypetech | but wowace is down -.- |
| 15:26.04 | [Ammo] | that was 10 hours ago ors o |
| 15:26.07 | [Ammo] | so might be fixed by now |
| 15:26.09 | Antiarc|Work | [Ammo]: Were they all up to date? |
| 15:26.18 | [Ammo] | they all had the version from approx 10 hours ago |
| 15:26.26 | hypetech | patch? wtf is patching? |
| 15:26.28 | hypetech | lol |
| 15:26.37 | deltron | hypetech: fixing client crash |
| 15:26.41 | nevcairiel | WoW-2.1.0.6692-to-2.1.0.6729-enGB |
| 15:26.42 | hypetech | thank god |
| 15:26.49 | Funkeh` | ERROR 132 |
| 15:26.51 | hypetech | although that didn't happen to me once last night |
| 15:26.52 | chutwig | ironically after i applied the patch and logged in |
| 15:26.53 | harldephin | my realm isn't even in the list of realms shown in-game. some are offline, some continuously change status from recommended to full or closed and back again |
| 15:26.54 | chutwig | the game crashed |
| 15:26.54 | renchap | Antiarc|Work: i had like 1500 errors with threat before the eu crash |
| 15:27.36 | Fisker- | harldephin realms only show as offline if they're recently taken offline |
| 15:27.49 | Antiarc|Work | renchap: Save stacks from any of 'em? |
| 15:27.57 | Fisker- | So your realm not being on the list just means that it hasn't been turned on recently |
| 15:28.19 | Fisker- | and realms offline basically just went down a couple of minutes ago |
| 15:28.28 | harldephin | Fisker-: they are shown as offline as soon as i log in and that hasn't changed for the last hour |
| 15:29.03 | Kinkx | Does your WoW Launcher says "Preparing to download patch.."? I've downloaded and installed the patch, but it keeps saying that |
| 15:29.13 | Iceroth | Kinkx, yes |
| 15:29.14 | Keias | Mine did Kinkx |
| 15:29.16 | chutwig | yeah, and it says the news server is down |
| 15:29.28 | Kinkx | strange |
| 15:29.29 | harldephin | new server's working for me |
| 15:29.30 | Keias | I normally just skip the launcher and run straight from the WoW.exe though |
| 15:29.32 | harldephin | news |
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| 15:29.56 | deltron | Keias: blizz doesn't like that usually |
| 15:30.03 | Keias | I'm aware. |
| 15:30.08 | Fisker- | Kinkx it's a bug because of their version tracker still reporting the previous build |
| 15:30.12 | Keias | But I don't like an extra screen just to read news usally :P |
| 15:30.18 | Kinkx | Ah okie |
| 15:30.19 | Ominous | do we still need optional deps for all the libs our addons use with the new AceLibrary loading changes |
| 15:30.58 | nadas_ | say renchap, any chance your files mirror is being updated? :) |
| 15:31.11 | renchap | Antiarc|Work: 04:36 @hyperChipmunk | : Threat-1.0\Threat-1.0\ThreatClassModuleCore.lua:565: attempt to index local 'self' (a number value) |
| 15:31.16 | renchap | i think it is this one |
| 15:31.17 | Funkeh` | Ominous: only if the library is not compatable with it |
| 15:31.25 | renchap | nadas_: udated hourly |
| 15:31.27 | nekoh | Antiarc|Work: how does threat-1.0 seperate different targets for the threat syncing? (i thought it is using somehash(targetName), but if that is true, then it cannot sync between users of different installed languagepacks e.g. deDE <-> enGB, because of different mobNames, is that true?) |
| 15:31.51 | nadas | renchap: ah, good enough =) |
| 15:32.06 | nevcairiel | i hope its using Babble-Boss |
| 15:32.11 | renchap | next update in 10 minutes |
| 15:32.13 | nevcairiel | and using comm in english |
| 15:32.18 | [Ammo] | it's not, and different locales is just impossible |
| 15:32.40 | Roartindon | Babble-Mob-2.2?? lol |
| 15:32.43 | nevcairiel | imho it should try to get the name from bable-boss |
| 15:32.48 | nevcairiel | who cares about mobs |
| 15:32.56 | nevcairiel | *trash mobs |
| 15:32.56 | nekoh | thats also why KTM invented mastertarget |
| 15:33.02 | harldephin | files. accessible for anyone ? |
| 15:33.38 | nevcairiel | my guild is like 50% german clients and 50% english clients, not being compatible will be a BIG minus |
| 15:33.50 | nekoh | nevcairiel: same |
| 15:33.52 | Funkeh` | is ktm compatable? |
| 15:33.56 | nekoh | yea |
| 15:34.02 | Silviu- | nevcairiel same here |
| 15:34.03 | Funkeh` | how does it manage? |
| 15:34.13 | Roartindon | Funkeh`: It doesn't try to distinguish between mobs |
| 15:35.00 | nevcairiel | Babble-Mob for all instance trash mobs would be weird tho :P |
| 15:35.02 | Funkeh` | so have 2 separate modules 1 for distringuishin(bosses? babble boss) and one for not(trash) or something |
| 15:35.05 | Necrathex | isn't there a way for the different language wow versions to grab the original english name of a mob? |
| 15:35.12 | nevcairiel | no |
| 15:36.15 | harldephin | not without an add-on |
| 15:36.15 | nevcairiel | that would be amazing tho :P |
| 15:36.49 | hypetech | the people with their netherdrake on my server just sit in front of the bank and afk, coming by every few minutes to tap the mouse -.- |
| 15:36.50 | hypetech | showoffs |
| 15:37.07 | harldephin | i wonder why the original strings aren't just included in one of the MPQs. shouldn't be that difficult to include it in a patch |
| 15:37.19 | alext | Patch Notes for 2.2.0: "One of our big changes this patch is a built-in threat meter" |
| 15:37.22 | alext | ! |
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| 15:37.39 | alext | thats not official just bullshitting |
| 15:37.46 | Keias | lol |
| 15:37.47 | alext | like how they made their own "dotimer" this patch |
| 15:37.56 | Vangual | no way, voicecomm surely is first on their "to-rip-halfassedly" list |
| 15:38.02 | Keias | It'll come right after Hero classes |
| 15:38.02 | harldephin | lol |
| 15:38.03 | alext | they keep taking all the good addon abilities and putting them in-game |
| 15:38.08 | alext | so its time for a built-in blizzard ui threatmeter |
| 15:38.20 | snurre | VoIP is 2.3 iirc |
| 15:38.52 | Vangual | curious how the increased traffic is gonna work out |
| 15:39.06 | Vangual | (on their side) |
| 15:39.15 | Funkeh` | paid for service is my bet |
| 15:39.15 | snurre | im sure theyve considered the technical complications of it :p |
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| 15:39.32 | Funkeh` | not that i would pay to have my voice transmitted through telia lines, laggy enough as it is |
| 15:39.39 | nevcairiel | lol |
| 15:39.40 | Vangual | hehe |
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| 15:40.26 | Funkeh` | the fuck |
| 15:40.29 | stavmar | Is TagCompiler-1.0 available through the SVN, I cannot see to find it |
| 15:40.33 | Funkeh` | im seeding this torrent |
| 15:40.35 | Funkeh` | the patch |
| 15:40.42 | Funkeh` | uplodaing to someone in kazakstan |
| 15:40.50 | Silviu- | ;)) |
| 15:41.13 | nevcairiel | one thing i just had to think of |
| 15:41.18 | harldephin | lol.. p2p-voip ? |
| 15:41.24 | Vangual | oh please no |
| 15:41.32 | nevcairiel | i REALLY dislike the AtlasLoot author for abusing the SVN as a release platform for his crap. |
| 15:42.03 | Stephmw | harldephin: that's how skype's backbone works |
| 15:42.08 | Fisker- | I disagree without the dis nevcairiel |
| 15:42.11 | Vangual | "Vivendi buys Skype" qq |
| 15:42.15 | Fisker- | if you know what i mean |
| 15:42.31 | nevcairiel | o.O |
| 15:42.48 | harldephin | Stephmw: and i'm absolutely not impressed by anything like Skype :-p |
| 15:42.49 | Fisker- | why :( |
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| 15:43.14 | [Ammo] | nevcairiel: he wrote an explanation on wowace dev corner |
| 15:43.16 | alext | nevcairiel: is atlasloot even ace? |
| 15:43.24 | Stephmw | harldephin: what? the networking or the UI? |
| 15:43.26 | [Ammo] | nevcairiel: lets give him some slack, and wait.... |
| 15:43.40 | Funkeh` | oh fuck off |
| 15:43.40 | harldephin | Stephmw: both, actually. |
| 15:43.40 | Stephmw | harldephin: the networking is a fascinating example of parasitic resource usage |
| 15:43.46 | harldephin | lol |
| 15:43.49 | Funkeh` | WHY delete the mpq files for a 1mb file |
| 15:43.51 | alext | yeah I got confused when my atlasloot started showing up on wowaceupdater |
| 15:43.56 | Vangual | Stephmw: precisely |
| 15:44.07 | Funkeh` | wdb files i mean |
| 15:44.26 | snurre | lol |
| 15:44.32 | snurre | server comes up, i try to log in |
| 15:44.33 | nevcairiel | [Ammo]: oh didnt see that yet |
| 15:44.34 | snurre | error #132 |
| 15:44.35 | snurre | gg |
| 15:44.39 | Funkeh` | hahaha |
| 15:44.42 | Funkeh` | fixed my ass |
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| 15:47.58 | Ominous | has wowace finally gone down then? |
| 15:48.06 | Fisker- | no o |
| 15:48.12 | nevcairiel | its being fixed right now. give it time. |
| 15:48.15 | Tuykra | its not working for me either |
| 15:48.16 | Ominous | ah |
| 15:48.19 | Tuykra | ah |
| 15:48.19 | Funkeh` | forums gone down |
| 15:48.22 | Funkeh` | completely |
| 15:48.28 | nevcairiel | someone should really fix my server instead. |
| 15:48.37 | Ominous | and wiki |
| 15:48.41 | Guillotine | and dog |
| 15:48.48 | Reality | kitchen sink as well |
| 15:48.58 | Reality | hey guys, let's all say something about it in irc |
| 15:49.32 | Funkeh` | my dog is dirty |
| 15:49.50 | harldephin | ? |
| 15:50.07 | Funkeh` | ? |
| 15:50.11 | yacoob | ! |
| 15:50.13 | Reality | :O |
| 15:50.13 | Funkeh` | :o |
| 15:50.15 | yacoob | his dog is dirty! |
| 15:50.23 | Vangual | ohnoes |
| 15:50.26 | yacoob | ...THIS IS NOT A DRILL, I REPEAT... |
| 15:50.27 | Funkeh` | :( |
| 15:50.35 | harldephin | well then.. clean the dog |
| 15:50.37 | Stephmw | whos dog is dirty? |
| 15:51.23 | pb_ee1 | Hum... is there a program that lets the user know which libraries he has to install (if he's not using externals obviously)? |
| 15:51.48 | nevcairiel | trial and error? login, see whats missing :D |
| 15:51.56 | nevcairiel | no i dont think there is something for that tho |
| 15:52.04 | Funkeh` | pb_ee1: if you download standalonelibraries, enable ace, enable parserlib, disable all the other libraries |
| 15:52.12 | pb_ee1 | Nice |
| 15:52.15 | Guillotine | pb_ee: I'd just install them all. most seem to be LoD |
| 15:52.15 | Funkeh` | pb_ee1: the libraries you need will automatically enable |
| 15:52.32 | harldephin | oO |
| 15:52.38 | pb_ee1 | I'll have something nice to show up tomorrow then ;) |
| 15:52.48 | Stephmw | harldephin: buildfarm |
| 15:53.15 | Vangual | clearly Stephmw stole half the eu realm boxes then |
| 15:53.21 | Stephmw | bwahahaha |
| 15:53.42 | harldephin | Stephmw: yea... but why the "ages" thing |
| 15:53.52 | Fisker- | because it takes a lot of time? |
| 15:54.01 | Stephmw | harldephin: it's a big pile o' shit^W code? |
| 15:54.29 | harldephin | okay. |
| 15:54.49 | Stephmw | ~60k files, 4gb sources... |
| 15:55.13 | Antiarc|Work | Re: Different language packs. Oof. I didn't even think of that. Does Babble-Boss store trash mobs as well? |
| 15:55.28 | Funkeh` | no |
| 15:55.35 | Funkeh` | only mobs wiht unique names |
| 15:55.44 | Antiarc|Work | Hrm. That'll be problematic. |
| 15:55.51 | Funkeh` | indeed |
| 15:55.57 | shieldb | Antiarc|Work, if babble stored trash mobs I wouldn't have to do much localization on incubator at all ;) |
| 15:56.11 | yacoob | that's why cats are better. They clean themselves. |
| 15:56.14 | vhaarr | So create Babble-Trash. |
| 15:56.15 | Funkeh` | not really a good idea |
| 15:56.24 | Funkeh` | then the threat meter will have gaps |
| 15:56.32 | Fisker- | screw localizations |
| 15:56.46 | Fisker- | Or just translate everything "Learn2english n00bs" |
| 15:56.50 | [Ammo] | babble-trash would work but keep it limited to instances since that's where it matters |
| 15:57.03 | nevcairiel | of course, BC instance trash |
| 15:57.04 | nevcairiel | or something |
| 15:57.04 | Funkeh` | [Ammo] but it matetrs in way more palces than that |
| 15:57.20 | [Ammo] | babble-instancetrash |
| 15:57.23 | [Ammo] | need it more clear? |
| 15:57.26 | nevcairiel | hehe |
| 15:57.31 | Antiarc|Work | I think it'd be pretty spotty to only be providing cross-locale threat monitoring for instances. :/ |
| 15:57.32 | Funkeh` | that makes no difference |
| 15:57.38 | Funkeh` | it sitll won't work outside of insatnces |
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| 15:57.48 | vodrin | someone should post in that ej thread about violation |
| 15:57.56 | nevcairiel | where do you need threat meters out of instances ? :( |
| 15:57.57 | Funkeh` | its not ready yet |
| 15:57.58 | vodrin | just to rekindle some flames |
| 15:58.08 | Funkeh` | nevcairiel: outdoor raids |
| 15:58.19 | Kinkx | I don't think there is any trash outside of instances that won't die in a couple of seconds |
| 15:58.23 | Fisker- | Pooring gas on a fire works |
| 15:58.24 | nevcairiel | Funkeh`: so, bosses are seperate, which outdoor boss has adds? |
| 15:58.41 | Funkeh` | nevcairiel: its got nothing to do wiht adds, we are talking trash random mobs |
| 15:58.42 | Kinkx | Taerar? |
| 15:58.51 | Matrix110 | The Grand Collector has adds! |
| 15:59.07 | Matrix110 | but hes not a real outdoor boss:-( |
| 15:59.13 | nevcairiel | the trash around outside raid encounter really isnt a challenge to anyone :P |
| 15:59.15 | nevcairiel | just saying |
| 15:59.19 | nevcairiel | its not that important |
| 15:59.24 | Tuykra | what about the 5 man rare spawns in Outland? |
| 15:59.33 | Funkeh` | the 2 hour raid in BEM for example |
| 15:59.46 | Funkeh` | thats new in 2.1 |
| 15:59.51 | Funkeh` | blizz will always add more |
| 16:00.04 | Funkeh` | what about city raids |
| 16:00.23 | nevcairiel | you could always name it Babble-Trash and add some mobs which seem to be important enough |
| 16:00.27 | nevcairiel | now dont be picky! |
| 16:00.34 | Matrix110 | what about the 5 man rare spawns in Outland? <--- hes soloable:P |
| 16:00.41 | Matrix110 | or she |
| 16:00.42 | Funkeh` | im being realistic ;) |
| 16:00.45 | Matrix110 | dunno what gender the dragon is |
| 16:00.50 | Funkeh` | to take off it needs to be usable everywhere |
| 16:01.10 | Funkeh` | or else theres the 'at least KTM works anywhere' |
| 16:01.14 | Fisker- | http://img.4chan.org/b/src/1180540732009.png |
| 16:01.32 | nevcairiel | well true, but thats the issue with name-based threat lists |
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| 16:01.50 | Funkeh` | so why use that system and not the same one as ktm? |
| 16:02.00 | Funkeh` | or keep that system to bosses with adds only |
| 16:02.08 | Antiarc|Work | Funkeh`: Because it's many times more useful in any fight with multiple distinct mobs |
| 16:02.15 | Stephmw | harldephin: anyway, I get impatient with 15min builds |
| 16:02.27 | Antiarc|Work | Curator comes to mind, first and foremost. |
| 16:02.35 | Funkeh` | Antiarc|Work: you can have 2 systems, one for trash, and one for bosses with adds |
| 16:02.37 | Antiarc|Work | You can build up a ton of threat on sparks, but that doesn't matter |
| 16:02.47 | Antiarc|Work | KTM reports your spark + curator threat |
| 16:02.57 | Funkeh` | with master target? |
| 16:02.58 | vhaarr | Antiarc|Work: Care to describe the problem at hand? |
| 16:03.01 | Antiarc|Work | So you have no idea what your curator threat is, giving you no indication of how hard you can push on evoc. |
| 16:03.18 | Antiarc|Work | vhaarr: People in a raid running different language packs and how to synch mob names between them. |
| 16:03.32 | vhaarr | Antiarc|Work: Why do you need to sync mob names? |
| 16:03.34 | harldephin | Stephmw: would you call yourself someone being generally impatient then ? |
| 16:03.42 | Funkeh` | Antiarc|Work: imo like i said, keep it to bosses wiht adds |
| 16:03.46 | Funkeh` | screw the rest |
| 16:03.50 | Stephmw | harldephin: only through repetition, it eats up my day |
| 16:04.00 | Funkeh` | check babble boss or babble ads or something to see if the mob name exists |
| 16:04.19 | Antiarc|Work | vhaarr: Because threat is tracked per-mob, and if you have a mob with different names in two locales, threat won't get synched across language packs. |
| 16:04.24 | [Ammo] | vhaarr: because deDE clients suck ass so half the deDE players use enGB |
| 16:04.30 | Antiarc|Work | Rather, it's tracked per-mob by name. |
| 16:04.49 | FtH|Daemona | any serious games plays enGB ;) |
| 16:04.54 | pastamancer | cross-localization communication is such a pain in the ass |
| 16:04.58 | vhaarr | Antiarc|Work: Well, there are a few things you can do; one is to use Babble-Boss and create a Babble-Trash, for example. |
| 16:05.00 | harldephin | Stephmw: i see. so you're easily getting irritated and bored by repetitive actions ? |
| 16:05.29 | nevcairiel | the boss itself should exist, on trash-adds it shouldnt matter, on add fights like Maulgar or Karatresh the "adds" should be in Babble-Boss itself, or maybe another babble |
| 16:05.29 | [Ammo] | yeah |
| 16:05.29 | Antiarc|Work | vhaarr: My concern is holes. I don't want Omen to just "not work". |
| 16:05.29 | dotted | mob sync should be some sort of extention to Threat-1.0 not in the default pachage imo |
| 16:05.34 | vhaarr | Antiarc|Work: Another thing you can do is map mob names in realtime across locales. |
| 16:05.42 | [Ammo] | dotted: you will not transmit mob sync |
| 16:05.51 | [Ammo] | you just transmit threat on a mob in english locale |
| 16:05.52 | dotted | aight |
| 16:05.53 | nevcairiel | Antiarc|Sleeps: fallback to KTMs system if you dont have a translation? |
| 16:05.55 | vhaarr | Antiarc|Work: UNIT_TARGET + UnitIsUnit can work for you. |
| 16:05.57 | Antiarc|Work | vhaarr: Ooh, good idea. UnitIsUnit() |
| 16:05.58 | Antiarc|Work | Yup. |
| 16:06.03 | Stephmw | harldephin: you're leading to why am I playing WoW, I take it? |
| 16:06.09 | Antiarc|Work | nevcairiel: Possible. I like the idea of dynamic mapping though. |
| 16:06.12 | vhaarr | Antiarc|Work: That would solve everything, but require more CPU and memory. |
| 16:06.18 | Antiarc|Work | It'd incur overhead, but...yeah. |
| 16:06.45 | Funkeh` | try and test what effecct it has i suppose |
| 16:06.48 | [Ammo] | if you send a 'version' with a locale first |
| 16:06.52 | Antiarc|Work | Yeah, I'll test it out. |
| 16:06.53 | [Ammo] | and everyone is in the same locale |
| 16:06.56 | [Ammo] | you can skip that part of code |
| 16:06.57 | CIA-22 | 03evl * r37689 10Hourglass/core.lua: |
| 16:06.57 | CIA-22 | Hourglass: |
| 16:06.57 | CIA-22 | - Completed anchor code |
| 16:06.57 | CIA-22 | - Prettied up options |
| 16:07.00 | Antiarc|Work | Right, good point. |
| 16:07.02 | harldephin | Stephmw: haha.. no, not really :) |
| 16:07.04 | Funkeh` | thats another idea# |
| 16:07.06 | Funkeh` | awesome |
| 16:07.10 | evl | It's officially useable for everyone :P |
| 16:07.10 | [Ammo] | -> no extra overhead on 'all the same' |
| 16:07.11 | Antiarc|Work | I rather like that solution. |
| 16:07.19 | Funkeh` | indeed |
| 16:07.20 | Antiarc|Work | Good call, vhaarr |
| 16:07.21 | nevcairiel | thats a good solution yeah |
| 16:07.24 | vhaarr | See? Just ask me first next time :P |
| 16:07.28 | Funkeh` | lol |
| 16:07.31 | nevcairiel | lol |
| 16:07.32 | Funkeh` | vhaarr wins |
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| 16:08.00 | Stephmw | harldephin: but you do have to admit that 'boring' and 'repetitive' does cover some of what WoW is all about, no? |
| 16:08.05 | vhaarr | Too late for that! |
| 16:08.08 | [Ammo] | oh noes |
| 16:08.10 | Funkeh` | hehe |
| 16:08.22 | [Ammo] | but please do that localeversion thing |
| 16:08.31 | [Ammo] | hate to incur overhead on enGB realms :p |
| 16:08.34 | [Ammo] | or enUS |
| 16:09.00 | durcyn | evl another new name? >_< |
| 16:09.01 | Funkeh` | yeah |
| 16:09.51 | [Ammo] | now someone give me a 26 hour day |
| 16:09.58 | [Ammo] | so I can spend 2 hours on fun coding |
| 16:10.01 | fixtze | Antiarc|Sleeps have you ever pulled aggro on evoc? |
| 16:10.12 | [Ammo] | fixtze: I have! |
| 16:10.16 | pastamancer | I've come close |
| 16:10.17 | fixtze | I can go all out pulling 18k pyrocrits and not be close to getting aggro |
| 16:10.31 | [Ammo] | then again I dps all out on him during the whole fight |
| 16:10.37 | [Ammo] | while the rest does the adds |
| 16:10.40 | pastamancer | try being the shadow priest that's dpsing curator the entire time |
| 16:10.48 | pastamancer | what ammo said |
| 16:10.48 | [Ammo] | then my curse of dewm goes during evoc |
| 16:10.49 | kbh | big ignite = evo aggro lol |
| 16:10.49 | Borked|Raider | anyone worked with itemlinks. What decide if you gonna disk if you try to link an item from your server on a nother server where its not looted yet or something like that |
| 16:10.51 | [Ammo] | that's when it gets icky |
| 16:10.55 | harldephin | Stephmw: repetitive, yes. but to get bored by something is a very subjective thing. at least i wouldn't see that lead to the assumption that one could nominate definite conclusions to the personality of its players out of that. |
| 16:11.22 | nevcairiel | our rogue generally has aggro after evoc, but vanish is good |
| 16:11.23 | Funkeh` | servers are up |
| 16:11.24 | Funkeh` | on EU |
| 16:11.27 | Funkeh` | im being told |
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| 16:11.40 | Silviu- | Funkeh` not all |
| 16:11.41 | renchap | Funkeh`: workd is down |
| 16:11.44 | renchap | *world |
| 16:11.53 | Silviu- | Mine is still off |
| 16:11.53 | nevcairiel | mine is still down |
| 16:12.01 | Vangual | mine isn't even shown as offline :( |
| 16:12.08 | Mudkipz | eh? |
| 16:12.11 | Mudkipz | isn't today wednesday? |
| 16:12.15 | Silviu- | Mine was offline in list not is gone :) |
| 16:12.29 | Silviu- | Yes but they should be online 7h ago |
| 16:12.29 | Silviu- | :P |
| 16:12.39 | Tuykra | anyone got WaU problems? |
| 16:12.43 | durcyn | Mudkipz: something in motd about an emergency patch |
| 16:12.55 | durcyn | aka, holy shit we have to fix an exploitable bug |
| 16:13.03 | nevcairiel | US servers are fine tho |
| 16:13.06 | FtH|Daemona | no Tuykra, but on the other hand i am using WAU |
| 16:13.32 | harldephin | Stephmw: oh, an i'm not a psychologist of any sort. i'm just hoaxing around a bit. but i feel that there might be some psychological / sociological / philosophical connections between humans' general behaviour and their likings to amuse themselves by doing repetitive, boring stuff. |
| 16:13.39 | Mudkipz | what is the epatch about? |
| 16:13.46 | Tuykra | :( its stuck "Retrieving available addons" |
| 16:13.53 | Mudkipz | only euro clients? |
| 16:13.54 | sedatedChipmunk | pretty sure it's the crashes |
| 16:13.57 | sedatedChipmunk | no |
| 16:14.09 | Mudkipz | I haven't experienced any crashes... must be lucky |
| 16:14.18 | Tornhoof | it's the #132 afaik |
| 16:14.19 | sedatedChipmunk | my client crashed everytime my pet died =\ |
| 16:14.25 | FtH|Daemona | hehe |
| 16:14.39 | Tornhoof | thats rp ;) |
| 16:14.43 | fixtze | i had #132 for a year before i bought a new box |
| 16:14.45 | Tornhoof | intended feature |
| 16:14.45 | nevcairiel | one in my guild exploited daily quest resetes using arena and got the skyguard mount thing yesterday |
| 16:14.45 | hyperChipmunk | =( |
| 16:14.47 | fixtze | the bus couldnt handle it on my old amd |
| 16:14.48 | FtH|Daemona | and i still say, they fixed it so that alt+tab doesnt crash the client anymore but the server ! |
| 16:14.55 | Vangual | liive inside your pet, if it dies YOU die! |
| 16:15.11 | kbh | i have a deaf friend who's client crashes when he is in karazhan |
| 16:15.24 | kbh | especially in curator room |
| 16:16.10 | cryogen | what's him being deaf got to do with it? :) |
| 16:16.12 | nevcairiel | one of our priests always crashed on tidewalker when the murlocs spawned |
| 16:16.17 | kbh | i dont know |
| 16:16.31 | fixtze | I actually crashed 1-2 times or froze |
| 16:16.33 | cryogen | what a terribly odd thing to say :) |
| 16:16.35 | fixtze | with around 80 people at doomwalker |
| 16:16.39 | fixtze | with everything on max quality |
| 16:16.40 | Kinkx | deaf people are prone to crash |
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| 16:17.08 | Tornhoof | i guess he's missing the punch line,that after disabling the sound it worked fine? |
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| 16:20.04 | Borked|Raider | server up |
| 16:20.12 | fixtze | "server up" ? |
| 16:20.17 | fixtze | there are hundreds of servers |
| 16:20.17 | Saroz | OMG! |
| 16:20.23 | Saroz | Server is up! |
| 16:20.36 | Mudkipz | wait |
| 16:20.37 | Mudkipz | stop |
| 16:20.44 | Kinkx | hammertime ? |
| 16:20.56 | Saroz | lol |
| 16:20.57 | CIA-22 | 03nickenyfiken * r37690 10FuBar_TrainerFu/ (TrainerFu.lua TrainerFu_FuBar.lua): |
| 16:20.57 | CIA-22 | FuBar_TrainerFu: |
| 16:20.57 | CIA-22 | - Some fixes |
| 16:20.57 | CIA-22 | - Now possible to hide the addon from FuBar panel while still running in background |
| 16:21.04 | Mudkipz | take this with you! |
| 16:21.38 | CIA-22 | 03saroz * r37691 10sRaidFrames/sRaidFrames.lua: sRaidFrames: Optimize the Update* functions a bit |
| 16:21.47 | evl | Ominous: I can't get AllInOne working now, my stuns show when bars are separate but they don't show in allinone |
| 16:21.49 | Kinkx | Server is down |
| 16:22.09 | Ominous | k |
| 16:22.13 | Ominous | evl: k |
| 16:22.43 | evl | lemme try update and again |
| 16:23.00 | Fisker- | omg |
| 16:23.04 | Fisker- | our server finally went up |
| 16:23.08 | Fisker- | just world server down though :( |
| 16:23.13 | Silviu- | ;)) |
| 16:23.45 | Antiarc|Work | Hm. Is ipairs valid for use on a hash? |
| 16:24.10 | CIA-22 | 03ominous * r37692 10ClassTimer/ (ClassTimer.lua ClassTimer.toc): ClassTimer: oops fix all in one |
| 16:24.15 | Ominous | evl: there : |
| 16:24.20 | evl | :) |
| 16:24.53 | nevcairiel | Antiarc|Sleeps: nop, only on integer indexed tables |
| 16:25.02 | nevcairiel | and only on those which dont miss one index |
| 16:25.43 | Killmore | Antiarc|Work: sup ! |
| 16:25.55 | Fisker- | yay |
| 16:25.57 | Fisker- | server fully up |
| 16:26.01 | harldephin | update *jump jump* |
| 16:26.02 | renchap | Antiarc|Work: Translation "Thunderfury" does not exist |
| 16:26.03 | nevcairiel | my still down |
| 16:26.15 | Antiarc|Work | nevcairiel: Thought so. Auditing Jerry's patch to Threat, and looks like he's using ipairs on a hash. |
| 16:26.21 | Antiarc|Work | renchap: Hm, thought we commented that out. |
| 16:26.22 | CIA-22 | 03gamefaq * r37693 10Babble-2.2/Babble-Spell-2.2/Babble-Spell-2.2.lua: |
| 16:26.22 | CIA-22 | Babble-2.2: |
| 16:26.23 | CIA-22 | - deDE Update to BS: Thunderfury = Donnerzorn |
| 16:26.40 | hypetech | anybody here that used DBM, then switched to BigWigs and liked it better? |
| 16:27.04 | renchap | Antiarc|Work: line 110 : attempt to index field 'partyUnits' (a nil value) |
| 16:27.05 | Fisker- | no |
| 16:27.09 | renchap | when i hit a mob |
| 16:27.10 | Fisker- | we weren't stupid enough to use DBM to begin with |
| 16:27.13 | Fisker- | (oh snap) |
| 16:27.14 | nevcairiel | lol |
| 16:27.20 | Antiarc|Work | renchap: Thought I got that! Which file? |
| 16:27.34 | hypetech | lol |
| 16:27.44 | packetlss | BigWigs > DBM by far imo |
| 16:27.46 | renchap | ClassModulecore |
| 16:28.04 | hypetech | what's a big difference? I find DBM to be very informative, and I've never used bigwigs |
| 16:28.22 | Funkeh` | dbm uses onupdate horribly |
| 16:28.40 | Funkeh` | i can't really describe it |
| 16:28.43 | Mudkipz | bigwigs > DBM by a thousand lightyears |
| 16:28.44 | Fisker- | what's the difference in Threat and Target Threat on violation? |
| 16:28.44 | Funkeh` | since i never used dbm |
| 16:28.49 | packetlss | DBM is a resource hog compared to BW |
| 16:28.55 | Fisker- | Threat doesn't seem to do anything anymore |
| 16:29.12 | Funkeh` | Fisker- i presume threat will be for multiple mobs |
| 16:29.19 | Mudkipz | why?? because bigwigs is a light, no bloat, and it updates thru a wowaceupdater |
| 16:29.28 | Mudkipz | wowaceupdater is god |
| 16:29.34 | Funkeh` | lol |
| 16:29.37 | hypetech | lol |
| 16:29.39 | Funkeh` | id like to think theres more to it than that |
| 16:29.41 | Funkeh` | but ok |
| 16:29.44 | Mudkipz | seriously |
| 16:30.03 | hypetech | hmm...so does bigwigs have a distance monitor for maiden and gruul that lets you know when you're too close to someone like DBM? |
| 16:30.06 | Mudkipz | I switched to a 95% ace addons just for the convenience of the updates |
| 16:30.23 | Funkeh` | yes it does hypetech |
| 16:30.27 | hypetech | cool |
| 16:30.46 | packetlss | shatter does tell you if you are too close :) |
| 16:30.55 | hypetech | I also noticed that DBM can't get a clue on who has rain of bones during nightbane, any difference in bigwigs |
| 16:30.58 | hypetech | lol packet |
| 16:31.00 | hypetech | yes it does |
| 16:31.09 | Funkeh` | hypetech: bigwigs has changed for that |
| 16:31.15 | Funkeh` | its no longer on 1 person |
| 16:31.19 | Funkeh` | its an aoe ability |
| 16:31.24 | Fisker- | so Mudkipz i heard a few things.... |
| 16:31.26 | Funkeh` | since 2.1 |
| 16:31.38 | hypetech | that's what we thought might be going on |
| 16:31.38 | Mudkipz | you liek sum mudkips? |
| 16:31.42 | hypetech | we didn't see a debuff on anyone |
| 16:31.44 | Killmore | but DBM got a timer when you summon nightbane.. very usefull to land a gheal on the MT |
| 16:31.52 | Funkeh` | bigwigs has that |
| 16:31.55 | snurre | bigwigs has it too |
| 16:32.03 | Fisker- | and why would you do that anyways? |
| 16:32.09 | Funkeh` | bitching |
| 16:32.18 | vodrin | but dbm has an initilism |
| 16:32.19 | Funkeh` | thats why i added it |
| 16:32.21 | vodrin | does bigwigs? |
| 16:32.27 | Mudkipz | yeah |
| 16:32.34 | Fisker- | initilism? |
| 16:32.36 | Fisker- | wtf? |
| 16:32.38 | Funkeh` | i don't know the word initilism |
| 16:32.40 | Mudkipz | landing a gheal as soon as NB lands is very risky |
| 16:32.41 | vodrin | acronym |
| 16:32.43 | Mudkipz | you want to die? |
| 16:32.45 | vodrin | ffs |
| 16:32.46 | vodrin | nubs |
| 16:33.01 | vodrin | initialism* |
| 16:33.03 | vodrin | /hide |
| 16:33.04 | Killmore | Mudkipz: I know how to play.. |
| 16:33.07 | CIA-22 | 03antiarc * r37694 10Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0/ (14 files in 2 dirs): Threat-1.0: Audited and patched in Jerry's review of the codebase. Good stuff, performance improvements all around. |
| 16:33.11 | Mudkipz | Killmor? |
| 16:33.15 | Mudkipz | killmoar? |
| 16:33.31 | Mudkipz | is that you? |
| 16:33.32 | Killmore | Mudkitz: ? |
| 16:33.46 | Fisker- | hmm Antiarc|Sleeps |
| 16:33.52 | Mudkipz | dark iron? |
| 16:33.55 | sbu | Antiarc|Sleeps: have you already found out about that partyUnit stuff? |
| 16:33.55 | Fisker- | i'm getting weird jumps in threat when healing |
| 16:33.56 | Antiarc|Work | ? |
| 16:34.03 | Antiarc|Work | sbu: Looking at it now |
| 16:34.07 | Antiarc|Work | Fisker-: Can you elaborate? |
| 16:34.10 | Fisker- | I heal for 3 hp and the threatmeter goes up by like 30-40 points |
| 16:34.11 | hypetech | so what's the new strat for when nightbane goes to the air? everybody spread out? how does the aoe get targeted? |
| 16:34.15 | sbu | Antiarc|Sleeps: ah :) |
| 16:34.20 | vodrin | someone needs to make an acronym out of bigwigs |
| 16:34.33 | vodrin | for it to be better than dbm's initalism |
| 16:34.41 | vodrin | clearly. |
| 16:34.57 | Funkeh` | wigibigs |
| 16:34.58 | hypetech | bw |
| 16:35.00 | hypetech | lol |
| 16:35.25 | Antiarc|Work | Boss Incoming, Grab Weapons, Initialize Group Strategy. |
| 16:35.33 | Kaelten | renchap: |
| 16:35.35 | vodrin | very good! |
| 16:35.35 | Kaelten | http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=1353.new#new |
| 16:35.38 | Mudkipz | With out powers combined! |
| 16:35.40 | Kaelten | g'morning everyone |
| 16:35.42 | Mudkipz | We FORM!! |
| 16:35.43 | shieldb | just reverse dbm ;) |
| 16:35.47 | Funkeh` | hey Kaelten |
| 16:35.48 | Antiarc|Work | Morning Kaelten |
| 16:35.50 | shieldb | mbd: man, this is better then deadly |
| 16:36.01 | hypetech | mbd sounds like a new drug |
| 16:36.09 | Fisker- | why are you linking to that post? |
| 16:36.10 | Fisker- | Oh |
| 16:36.11 | Fisker- | new :P |
| 16:36.18 | Fisker- | my newest post was several pages back |
| 16:36.19 | vodrin | nono, you can't acronym an initialism |
| 16:36.20 | vodrin | :< |
| 16:37.51 | Tuykra | ckknight: Whats FuzzyClockFu do? sounds intriguing |
| 16:38.21 | durcyn | it's a fuzzy-logic clock |
| 16:38.25 | Tuykra | ooh |
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| 16:38.31 | durcyn | i.e. "half past noon" instead of 12:30 |
| 16:38.35 | harldephin | [2007/05/30 18:31:13-773-x6]: FuBar_VoiceFu-2.0.00001\VoiceFu.lua:185: attempt to call method 'Print' (a nil value) .. and something with DewDrop |
| 16:38.41 | shieldb | Antiarc|Work, I'm guessing it got fixed in the newest rev of omen, but last night with rev 37651 all I was getting was a white frame stuck in the middle of my screen ;) |
| 16:39.12 | Antiarc|Work | shieldb: Yeah, I borked that in a commit last night :D |
| 16:39.18 | Antiarc|Work | Should be fixed now. |
| 16:39.23 | renchap | Kaelten: can you reproduce this ? |
| 16:39.41 | Kaelten | renchap havn't triend |
| 16:39.42 | Ominous | evl: does it work now |
| 16:39.50 | Kaelten | er haven't tried |
| 16:39.50 | Fisker- | any ideas why it's happening Antiarc|Work? |
| 16:40.20 | Antiarc|Work | Mmm. Mana gains, perhaps. |
| 16:40.23 | Antiarc|Work | Paladin? |
| 16:40.26 | Fisker- | yeah |
| 16:40.28 | shieldb | and then I was getting weird residual threat displays after combat for some reason |
| 16:40.35 | nevcairiel | my server is still down :( ffs |
| 16:40.35 | evl | Ominous: will check |
| 16:40.36 | Antiarc|Work | If you crit the heal, then you're going to have heal threat + mana gain threat. |
| 16:40.36 | Fisker- | but i didn't have wisdom applied |
| 16:40.40 | Fisker- | ah |
| 16:40.43 | Fisker- | of course |
| 16:40.51 | Fisker- | good show then :;P |
| 16:40.56 | shieldb | i.e. we'd all go out of combat, but then it would still list me as having threat without a target listed |
| 16:40.57 | Antiarc|Work | *grin* |
| 16:41.01 | Fisker- | didn't even think klhtm picked that up |
| 16:41.05 | Fisker- | gonna grab some food though |
| 16:41.15 | Antiarc|Work | shieldb: Yeah, there's something going on with global threat right at the end of a fight |
| 16:41.17 | Antiarc|Work | I have to track it down |
| 16:41.18 | shieldb | targeting anything at that point would change it to 0 and no UI errors, but it seemed weird |
| 16:41.36 | Antiarc|Work | Yeah, I think it's a display thing |
| 16:41.44 | Antiarc|Work | I'm either not firing an event at the end of combat, or something like that |
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| 16:43.22 | hypetech | jesus. way to fix a client crash issue btw |
| 16:43.33 | hypetech | I just tried to port to shattrath and the client completely froze up |
| 16:43.37 | hypetech | had to hard reboot my box |
| 16:43.52 | CIA-22 | 03jerry * r37695 10FixLogStrings/FixLogStrings.toc: FixLogStrings: LoadWith means LoadOnDemand too. |
| 16:44.19 | kbh | <-- powerleveling engineering right now |
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| 16:44.46 | CIA-22 | 03jerry * r37696 10ParserLib/ParserLib.toc: ParserLib: Add FixLogStrings as optional dependency |
| 16:45.25 | CIA-22 | 03jerry * r37697 10Parser-3.0/Parser-3.0.toc: Parser-3.0: Add FixLogStrings as optional dependency |
| 16:46.13 | CIA-22 | 03saroz * r37698 10sRaidFrames/sRaidFrames.lua: sRaidFrames: Knew this would happen |
| 16:46.50 | nevcairiel | lol |
| 16:46.56 | CIA-22 | 03saroz * r37699 10sRaidFrames/sRaidFrames.lua: sRaidFrames: And another one |
| 16:47.03 | Antiarc|Work | Hahaha |
| 16:47.12 | kenlyric | kbh: I'm so sorry. |
| 16:47.16 | Antiarc|Work | I love reading commit messages. |
| 16:47.19 | Saroz | shush |
| 16:47.32 | Stephmw[away] | Saroz: so... what did you fix? |
| 16:47.38 | nevcairiel | Saroz: you changed it to upper case in the first, and lower in the second ? weird stuff :D |
| 16:47.43 | Saroz | shush |
| 16:47.46 | Saroz | shush |
| 16:47.46 | Saroz | shush |
| 16:47.53 | nevcairiel | :P |
| 16:48.06 | Saroz | should work now -.- |
| 16:48.24 | nevcairiel | i wouldnt know, my server is having its lunch break |
| 16:49.07 | Kinkx | Severs will be up at 20:00, only 9 hours extra maintenance :o |
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| 16:49.43 | sbu | nevcairiel: *siigh* |
| 16:49.45 | sbu | same here |
| 16:51.21 | fixtze | So since I'm new to this whole shebaang (just decided i'd try to write a mod >_<). Can you edit a mod and reload it somehow without reloading WOW? (Just preemptivly getting to know basic shizzle) |
| 16:51.37 | nevcairiel | reloadui |
| 16:51.39 | kenlyric | it's so strange for EU to suffer and us not to. |
| 16:51.53 | fixtze | k cool |
| 16:52.00 | nevcairiel | ./console reloadui |
| 16:52.13 | fixtze | aye didn't know that actually reloaded the LUAs |
| 16:52.17 | kenlyric | 1997 flashback! |
| 16:52.31 | kenlyric | fo shizzle honkey! |
| 16:52.54 | evl | Ominous: nothing |
| 16:53.04 | evl | Ominous: do i need to enable debuffs on player to see target debuffs in allinone? |
| 16:53.05 | Ominous | evl: still dosent work? |
| 16:53.12 | Ominous | oh |
| 16:53.13 | Ominous | ye |
| 16:53.14 | Ominous | s |
| 16:53.34 | evl | Hmms, :/ |
| 16:53.35 | CIA-22 | 03damjau * r37700 10AspectsBar/ (AspectsBar.lua AspectsBar.toc): AspectsBar - add help message, fix saving key binding |
| 16:53.45 | CIA-22 | 03damjau * r37701 10TrackingBar/ (TrackingBar.lua TrackingBar.toc): TrackingBar - add help message, fix saving key binding |
| 16:53.48 | evl | then I have to enable debuffs from everything on myself just to see targets |
| 16:54.01 | Ominous | evl: well its only focus and target |
| 16:54.11 | Ominous | really |
| 16:54.12 | CIA-22 | 03jerry * r37702 10Talented_Data/ (3 files in 3 dirs): Talented_Data: regenerate for patch. |
| 16:55.18 | evl | Ominous: still nothing |
| 16:56.51 | Ominous | evl: i lie |
| 16:56.51 | Ominous | evl: it does take individual buff/debuff settings |
| 16:58.45 | evl | Ominous: still no bars though :P |
| 16:58.48 | Ominous | svl: i know |
| 16:58.52 | Ominous | evl: looking at it |
| 16:59.01 | evl | thank s:) |
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| 16:59.23 | Mudkipz | who else use eepanels? |
| 16:59.33 | Kaelten | you guys talk to much :P |
| 16:59.50 | kenlyric | shut it, trebek |
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| 17:01.50 | [Liq] | Just quick, what's the % variable for numbers/floats in string formats? |
| 17:01.56 | [Liq] | %t ? %f ? |
| 17:02.02 | [Liq] | n? |
| 17:02.13 | [Ammo] | %f |
| 17:02.25 | [Ammo] | %0.1f = 0 padded 1 digit behind the dot float |
| 17:03.40 | Wogroipl | O.o there is a patch |
| 17:04.05 | Wogroipl | path note: Fixed a crash in the client |
| 17:04.11 | Ominous | evl: works for me now |
| 17:04.16 | CIA-22 | 03ominous * r37703 10ClassTimer/ (Bars/Rogue.lua ClassTimer.lua): ClassTimer: fix |
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| 17:05.24 | CIA-22 | 03kebinusan * r37704 10Tattle/ (15 files in 15 dirs): Tattle: US Data Update |
| 17:05.45 | snurre | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:05.46 | Ominous | test that please evl :) |
| 17:07.24 | [Ammo] | snurre: no |
| 17:07.32 | [Ammo] | snurre: UI restrictions in combat |
| 17:07.35 | [Ammo] | so they won't be clickable |
| 17:07.54 | kenlyric | couldn't you lock them at the start of combat? |
| 17:08.29 | [Ammo] | maybe I should say, not in oRA |
| 17:08.35 | [Ammo] | and then go write it |
| 17:09.01 | Kebinusan | bleh I wish you had a permission so people could edit their own guild note but not other people |
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| 17:09.25 | [Ammo] | just give people permission to edit their guildnote and gremove abusers |
| 17:09.46 | Ominous | but how can you tell? |
| 17:09.47 | [Ammo] | lack of respect in a guild -> bad |
| 17:10.02 | [Ammo] | oh I don't know, just random kick someone |
| 17:10.08 | [Ammo] | or random kick people till one confesses |
| 17:10.10 | Fisker- | what's the max limit on guild members? |
| 17:10.15 | Fisker- | I know the UI only shows 500 |
| 17:10.17 | [Liq] | 500? |
| 17:10.17 | Kebinusan | I wish my realm was big enough for that |
| 17:10.33 | Fisker- | but there's something about the server actually allows 5<something> members |
| 17:11.04 | [Liq] | Hmm I've heard of a guild being above 500 |
| 17:11.11 | [Liq] | But UI shows 500 only |
| 17:11.17 | Ominous | thats what he just said |
| 17:11.28 | [Liq] | I know, I just confirmed <3 |
| 17:11.55 | evl | Penny Arcade ALliance has over 10x500 man guids |
| 17:12.04 | evl | If they raid Ogrimmar the server crashes instantly :D |
| 17:12.24 | Mudkipz | they raided doomwalker and crashed the server |
| 17:12.27 | Mudkipz | last week I think |
| 17:12.35 | [Liq] | Doesn't matter where they go being 500+ the realm goes nuts. |
| 17:12.38 | Mudkipz | they keep dark iron alive |
| 17:12.47 | Mudkipz | and also make it a scummy place to live |
| 17:12.51 | Mudkipz | good and bad I guess |
| 17:12.51 | hyperChipmunk | lol |
| 17:13.03 | [Liq] | Wish my realm had that kind of population |
| 17:13.07 | Mudkipz | for the horde |
| 17:13.08 | Mudkipz | ! |
| 17:13.13 | evl | Ominous: checking n a sec |
| 17:13.15 | evl | in a sdec* |
| 17:13.16 | evl | sec* |
| 17:13.16 | evl | :P |
| 17:13.18 | Ominous | =p |
| 17:14.17 | [Liq] | /who 70 ironforge + /who 70 Shattrah in primetime (19:00 -> 23:00) gives a total of 200-300 only |
| 17:14.19 | [Liq] | sucks |
| 17:14.33 | [Liq] | (bfore and after they leave for instances) |
| 17:15.25 | alext | i like the lower population servers |
| 17:15.36 | alext | dont think we have anyone past SSC yet on nazjatar |
| 17:15.43 | alext | horde or alliance |
| 17:15.49 | Fisker- | is the penny arcade alliance horde or alliance? :P |
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| 17:16.07 | [Liq] | Heh my realm just got 1-2 bosses in SSC And that's just 1 guild |
| 17:16.13 | Cryect | Penny Arcade is alliance |
| 17:16.21 | Cryect | some other webcomic is Horde |
| 17:16.22 | [Liq] | Noone cleared Naxx pre-tbc either |
| 17:16.23 | deltron | heh PA :P |
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| 17:17.27 | Ominous | evl: can you reply on forums with result as i have to o |
| 17:17.34 | Ominous | s/to o/to go/ |
| 17:18.34 | evl | aha,didn't work :( |
| 17:18.56 | ZealotOnAStick | PvP is Horde on Dark Iron. |
| 17:19.13 | Ominous | evl: can you reset ur db |
| 17:19.13 | ZealotOnAStick | We had a Paladin transfer over yesterday from Dark Iron. Rough server to be Horde on. |
| 17:19.16 | Ominous | and try again |
| 17:19.33 | evl | Ominous: will do |
| 17:19.42 | Ominous | ill wait a sec for result :0 |
| 17:19.44 | Ominous | :)* |
| 17:20.20 | evl | i can't restart wow now |
| 17:20.23 | evl | last boss in SH heroic :P |
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| 17:20.26 | evl | i'll reply on forums |
| 17:20.28 | Ominous | ./rl will work |
| 17:20.43 | Ominous | ./run ClassTimerDB = nil ReloadUI() |
| 17:21.43 | evl | let's see now :P |
| 17:21.46 | Ominous | =P |
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| 17:22.42 | CIA-22 | 03arith * r37705 10AtlasLoot/Instances/burningcrusade.en.lua: |
| 17:22.42 | CIA-22 | AtlasLoot: |
| 17:22.42 | CIA-22 | -Correct the item name "Ring of the Recalcitrant" |
| 17:22.51 | [Ammo] | oh boy |
| 17:22.55 | Ominous | omg |
| 17:23.07 | Ominous | let the fun begin... |
| 17:23.07 | deltron | oh phoenix mount? |
| 17:23.16 | deltron | heh mt :P |
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| 17:24.42 | Ominous | evl well i really have to go now, pls reply on forums |
| 17:24.43 | sdouble | was this patch today about the alt+tabbing issue? |
| 17:25.26 | Seerah | there was a patch today? |
| 17:25.29 | Seerah | :) |
| 17:26.19 | CIA-22 | 03antiarc * r37706 10Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0/ThreatClassModuleCore.lua: Threat-1.0: Remove invalid transaction assertation - I think this might actually be a valid case. TODO: Doublecheck it! |
| 17:26.43 | sdouble | a small 1.75MB patch |
| 17:27.09 | sdouble | that said "Fixed game crashing" for the description |
| 17:28.29 | Seerah | then that might be it.... if not, there was a work-around fix for it that you could do |
| 17:28.38 | Iceroth | evl, [2007/05/30 20:27:30-2405-x1]: Hourglass\core.lua:112: attempt to compare number with string |
| 17:28.53 | Iceroth | <in C code>: in function `UseAction' |
| 17:28.55 | Iceroth | Interface\FrameXML\SecureTemplates.lua:218: in function `SecureActionButton_OnClick |
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| 17:29.48 | Silviu- | renchap svn is behind |
| 17:29.59 | Saroz | VIOLATION ERROR SPAM |
| 17:30.03 | Saroz | raid is going emo :| |
| 17:30.13 | Saroz | sorry, Threat-1.0 error spam |
| 17:30.22 | Cryect | was about to say violation and people are going emo? |
| 17:30.24 | Funkeh` | disable the threat module |
| 17:30.32 | renchap | Silviu-: yes, behind you ! |
| 17:30.40 | sdouble | yeah, they're now combined by option |
| 17:30.45 | Saroz | doesnt really fix it |
| 17:30.49 | Silviu- | renchap 37703 |
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| 17:31.50 | snurre | hm... doesnt look like warrior (or maybe warlock) threat is calced properly.. i was at 250% of MTs threat without getting aggro |
| 17:32.38 | renchap | Kaelten: that is you ! |
| 17:32.39 | renchap | svn@jaina ~ $ svnsync sync file:///home/svn/wowace |
| 17:32.39 | renchap | svnsync: REPORT request failed on 'http://dev.wowace.com/wowace' |
| 17:32.39 | renchap | svnsync: REPORT of 'http://dev.wowace.com/wowace': 200 OK (http://dev.wowace.com) |
| 17:33.05 | Kaelten | hrm? |
| 17:36.40 | CIA-22 | 03jerry * r37707 10GridAlert/ (GridAlert.lua modules/aggro.lua modules/detox.lua): GridAlert: modules really disable themselves now. |
| 17:37.41 | Kaelten | renchap: I can browse and checkout from dev.wowace.com no problem |
| 17:39.10 | renchap | and can you sync ? |
| 17:39.10 | renchap | i get this error when i try to sync |
| 17:39.10 | Kaelten | no I get an error when I try sync |
| 17:39.10 | evl | Iceroth: did you adjust min/max? |
| 17:39.10 | renchap | i really hate svnsync... |
| 17:39.10 | Kaelten | me too |
| 17:39.10 | nekoh | Antiarc|Work: small bugfix for jerry's optimization commit: http://wowace.pastey.net/45721 |
| 17:39.27 | [Ammo] | antiarc: invalid call to hexchecksum string expected, got number: -1500 |
| 17:39.31 | Antiarc|Work | Thanks, nekoh. |
| 17:39.32 | [Ammo] | antiarc: invalid call to hexchecksum string expected, got number: 0 :) |
| 17:39.33 | [Ammo] | twice in a row |
| 17:39.37 | Iceroth | evl, yes |
| 17:39.41 | Antiarc|Work | Bleh! That keeps popping up! |
| 17:39.43 | [Ammo] | told me to contact you! |
| 17:39.48 | Antiarc|Work | Heh, yes, thanks :) |
| 17:39.51 | hypetech | what's the easiest outdoor boss to get to so I can test a bossmod :p |
| 17:39.58 | evl | Iceroth: guess i need a tonumber() |
| 17:40.12 | Kebinusan | azuregos |
| 17:40.21 | Iceroth | do it, i have 154 errors now :p |
| 17:40.47 | Kaelten | renchap check youur auth file and make sure that the user has full write access |
| 17:40.53 | Kaelten | one guy says that was the problem he had |
| 17:40.57 | vhaarr | hypetech: Extras -> Test -> Local |
| 17:41.24 | hypetech | that for bigwigs? |
| 17:41.31 | vhaarr | take a wild guess |
| 17:41.37 | renchap | -rw-rw-r-- 1 svn svn 704 May 27 09:44 authz |
| 17:41.51 | Kaelten | renchap: http://svn.haxx.se/users/archive-2007-05/0491.shtml |
| 17:42.17 | hypetech | :p |
| 17:43.25 | renchap | Kaelten: i havent changed the permissions of any files |
| 17:43.41 | Kaelten | no the permissions file |
| 17:43.47 | Kaelten | you have to be controlling access somewhere |
| 17:43.47 | hypetech | do you have to have atlas to run atlasloot? |
| 17:43.57 | CIA-22 | 03evl * r37708 10Hourglass/core.lua: |
| 17:43.57 | CIA-22 | Hourglass: |
| 17:43.57 | CIA-22 | - Fixed issue with options from Dewdrop being returned as text thus messing up the min/max logics |
| 17:43.57 | hypetech | because with cartographer, there's not much of a reason to run atlas |
| 17:44.01 | evl | Iceroth: please try that |
| 17:44.05 | renchap | Kaelten: sync worked 1 hour ago |
| 17:44.14 | renchap | and not error, and i dont change anything |
| 17:44.20 | Kaelten | :s |
| 17:44.31 | renchap | i think svnsync corrupt the svn again |
| 17:45.09 | renchap | lets run svnadmin verify |
| 17:45.12 | CIA-22 | 03antiarc * r37709 10Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0.lua: Threat-1.0: Fix for a possible memory leak introduced by Jerry's patch |
| 17:45.21 | Seerah | hypetech: no, it plugs into Fubar or your minimap |
| 17:45.57 | hypetech | cool. so I might just drop atlas altogether |
| 17:46.08 | hypetech | also, does bigwigs have battleground modules? |
| 17:46.24 | kenlyric | something I use does. |
| 17:46.34 | kenlyric | i've always figured it was bigwigs :) |
| 17:46.38 | vhaarr | bossmods have nothing to do with battlegrounds |
| 17:46.50 | kenlyric | littlewigs maybe? |
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| 17:47.00 | hypetech | i know that, but DBM has nifty battleground mods that are helpful |
| 17:47.05 | vhaarr | BW does not. |
| 17:47.10 | Gagorian | And should not |
| 17:47.12 | pastamancer | use capping if you want BG mods |
| 17:47.17 | hypetech | is capping a good mod for that? |
| 17:47.17 | hypetech | ya |
| 17:47.19 | hypetech | cool |
| 17:47.46 | hypetech | so auctioneer and atlas are my only non-wowace mods |
| 17:47.55 | kenlyric | atlas? ewww |
| 17:48.00 | hypetech | lol |
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| 17:48.15 | kenlyric | cartagrapher guild locations are dead sexy :) |
| 17:48.34 | kenlyric | cartographer, even |
| 17:48.48 | Seerah | Atlas > Auctioneer |
| 17:48.59 | Seerah | I would have said |
| 17:49.07 | Seerah | * Auctioneer, eww first ;) |
| 17:49.13 | Iceroth | evl, seems to wok |
| 17:49.17 | kenlyric | but there's no alternative to auctioneer |
| 17:49.24 | shieldb | Did the cartographer instanceloot module go away / break / die at some point? It hasn't worked for me for a month or two at least, but I never got around to looking into it |
| 17:49.25 | evl | Iceroth: :) |
| 17:49.29 | kenlyric | so I can only half-eww it |
| 17:49.33 | Seerah | sure there are, kenlyric |
| 17:49.36 | evl | Iceroth: i'm just amazed someoen is actually using my abomination! |
| 17:49.37 | kenlyric | not that work. |
| 17:49.39 | Phroon | KC_Items, or Fence |
| 17:49.48 | Iceroth | it's really good to have |
| 17:49.59 | Iceroth | especially since my action bar cooldowns hide when i shapeshift |
| 17:50.00 | kenlyric | kci has pretty horrible price formulations. |
| 17:50.04 | kenlyric | I haven't tried fence. |
| 17:50.14 | Seerah | oh, then you can't judge it, can you? ;) |
| 17:50.18 | hypetech | Seerah: well auctioneer is helpful enough to deal with the bloat |
| 17:50.22 | kenlyric | I wasn't aware of itt. |
| 17:50.35 | hypetech | unless wowace has an auction mod ^_^ |
| 17:50.45 | shieldb | I'll be happy to dump auctioneer once another mod provides the same functionality as the 'post auctions' tab in auctioneer :) |
| 17:50.45 | renchap | Kaelten: do you use mod_cache ? |
| 17:50.48 | Seerah | hypetech: KCI and Fence |
| 17:50.49 | Kaelten | KC_Items, the new version is still in development |
| 17:50.50 | kenlyric | whenever I ask "is there an alternative to auctioneer" I hear "KCI" :) |
| 17:51.06 | renchap | http://svn.haxx.se/users/archive-2007-01/1070.shtml |
| 17:51.08 | Seerah | KCI does more than Fence |
| 17:51.11 | kenlyric | kci is horribly outdated and NOT an alternative to auctioneer for any serious use. |
| 17:51.16 | Lyfe | whenever i ask if there's an alternative to auctioneer, i hear crickets. |
| 17:51.17 | Seerah | the new KCI integrates Fence into it, but it's not finished |
| 17:51.22 | kenlyric | it gets prices very, very wrong. |
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| 17:51.32 | kenlyric | yeah, wait for kci2 and rejoice :) |
| 17:51.37 | Kaelten | kenlyric have you tried the new one for prices? |
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| 17:51.50 | kenlyric | Kaelten: no, but i'm sure it's a lot better. |
| 17:51.59 | hypetech | so how does fence work? |
| 17:52.02 | Kaelten | give it a shot and tell me what you think |
| 17:52.07 | Phroon | Where is the KCI2 fork hiding, by the way? |
| 17:52.13 | Seerah | in branches |
| 17:52.36 | Kaelten | http://svn.wowace.com/wowace/branches/KC_Items/Ace2/KC_Items/ |
| 17:52.38 | Punkie` | Antiarc|Work: ping |
| 17:52.40 | Phroon | Thanks |
| 17:52.47 | Antiarc|Work | Punkie`: Pong |
| 17:52.54 | Phroon | I knew it was in branches, I wasn't sure where branches was :D |
| 17:53.15 | Punkie` | Antiarc|Work: Threat-1.0-37646 (Threat-1.0):231: Bad argument #1 to `HexCheckSum'. "string" expected, got "number" (-1500). Please report to Antiarc. |
| 17:53.39 | Punkie` | Also a few errors for the values of 0 and 2 |
| 17:53.50 | Kaelten | renchap no mod_cache that I see |
| 17:53.51 | nevcairiel | why cant that stupid functions automagically cast numbers to strings.. |
| 17:54.15 | Seerah | mmm, lunch is good :) |
| 17:54.15 | hypetech | I love quartz, but the quartz_latency module is horribly inaccurate for me :p |
| 17:54.30 | Seerah | inaccurate? |
| 17:54.45 | Iceroth | Antiarc|Work, \Violation\libs\Threat-1.0\ThreatClassModuleCore.lua:719: attempt to get length of local 't' (a nil value) [no stack trace] |
| 17:54.59 | Antiarc|Work | Yeah, about to commit a fix for that, Iceroth |
| 17:56.09 | hypetech | Seerah: ya, it always shows me crazy pings that vary wildy and aren't reflective of my actual latency |
| 17:56.27 | renchap | Kaelten: people on #svn blame apache ;) |
| 17:56.30 | Iceroth | can hardly wait :) |
| 17:56.37 | renchap | i think we should use svn:// protocol |
| 17:56.45 | renchap | with one http mirror for online brosing |
| 17:57.21 | Seerah | hypetech: is it accurate when you use /stopcasting while in the red? |
| 17:57.22 | pastamancer | access control for svnserve is pretty minimal |
| 17:57.59 | renchap | pastamancer: and apache access with svnsync corrupt repos |
| 17:58.22 | renchap | i think it is possible to use the authz file with svnserve too |
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| 17:58.42 | renchap | or maybe use svnserve for syncing mirror only ? |
| 17:58.47 | NeoTron | so a question to all expect wowers |
| 17:58.55 | Kaelten | the simple answer there is to svnserve for mirroring only |
| 17:59.07 | NeoTron | does taunt ever add permanet aggro or does it work sort of like a reversed fade? |
| 17:59.14 | Antiarc|Work | Yes, it's permanent. |
| 17:59.14 | NeoTron | where aggro gained is removed when the duration ends |
| 17:59.24 | renchap | you can already use svnserve with svn.wowace.com |
| 18:00.13 | Seerah | NeoTron: it's like holding your hand on their head while they swing at you - they won't be any less angry when you take your hand away ;) |
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| 18:00.48 | pastamancer | renchap: does your svnserve allow svnsync write access? |
| 18:00.50 | Kaelten | I'm tempted to just get a bigger box for the svn to play on and let people do anon checkouts again |
| 18:01.19 | renchap | pastamancer: it should |
| 18:01.29 | nevcairiel | imho, stop anon checkout altogether |
| 18:01.38 | nevcairiel | bleeding-edge-people can use files |
| 18:01.39 | Iceroth | hmh, doesn't dev allow anon access right now? |
| 18:01.55 | Kaelten | nevcairiel: not set up to handle that atm, not the way I want to anyway |
| 18:01.59 | Kaelten | iceroth no it does not |
| 18:02.00 | Kebinusan | Just dont let people checkout with externals, make em run standalone libs |
| 18:02.20 | Kaelten | Kebinusan: its either all or nothign |
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| 18:02.24 | Kebinusan | :-( |
| 18:02.47 | Iceroth | at least i can browse dev.wowace.com with browser without giving any credentials O.o |
| 18:02.59 | Kaelten | iceroth sure you don't hav ethem cached in your browser? |
| 18:03.01 | Kaelten | :) |
| 18:03.06 | Antiarc|Work | Do we have anyone here that plays in a group with multiple locales? |
| 18:03.07 | nevcairiel | whats so hard to setup there? :o just kill svn, notifiy everyone that their source of live-updates is now a 20minute delay on files.wowace.com |
| 18:03.22 | Kaelten | :P |
| 18:03.24 | Iceroth | it should still pop the window if they were, no? |
| 18:03.26 | Antiarc|Work | I have the mob name translation drycoded, but I'd like a tester lined up before I commit it. |
| 18:03.29 | nevcairiel | Antiarc|Work: i do |
| 18:03.32 | Kaelten | Iceroth: no |
| 18:03.39 | Antiarc|Work | nevcairiel: Can I get you to test it a bit once I commit? |
| 18:03.44 | Antiarc|Work | At least make sure nothing breaks horribly? |
| 18:03.45 | Kaelten | it doesn't popup for me when they're cached |
| 18:03.53 | nevcairiel | but i dont think any people on the other locale run threat, if that matters |
| 18:04.15 | Antiarc|Work | Hm. |
| 18:04.19 | CIA-22 | 03arith * r37710 10AtlasLoot/Instances/burningcrusade.en.lua: |
| 18:04.20 | CIA-22 | AtlasLoot: |
| 18:04.20 | CIA-22 | -revised some incorrect item names |
| 18:04.26 | Antiarc|Work | That'd be important for testing. |
| 18:04.34 | Iceroth | maybe i'm mistaken then.. i just can't figure a single reason i would have browsed the dev with IE i recently installed and don't really use :s |
| 18:04.44 | Antiarc|Work | Well, we can test and ensure that it won't, at least, break under a single locale. |
| 18:04.56 | TecnoBrat | Anyone here familar with serpentshrine? Our guild just killed Mag for the 3rd time, and are looking to go into SSC, anyone have any suggestions on what bosses we should attempt? |
| 18:04.59 | Kaelten | pastamancer: what are you working on so we don't duplicate efforts? |
| 18:05.31 | [Liquidor] | TecnoBrat, leave Hydross and go for the others |
| 18:05.35 | kenlyric | the two guilds on my server that have killed stuff have both killed hydross first. |
| 18:05.39 | Kebinusan | It'd be nice if svn had a way to treat externals as symlinks or something so it wouldnt need to do all that extra checking out |
| 18:05.51 | Kebinusan | or downloading of them rather |
| 18:05.55 | [Liquidor] | You can just pass Hydross since he's harder than most of the other bosses |
| 18:06.02 | Kaelten | renchap: I get the same 200 ok error when I try to sync over svn:// |
| 18:06.17 | renchap | Kaelten: the repos seems to be corrupted |
| 18:06.26 | renchap | (yes, again) |
| 18:06.28 | TecnoBrat | Kebinusan, download the externals normally, and then just skip externals on your addon .. |
| 18:06.29 | Kaelten | :s |
| 18:06.32 | TecnoBrat | then it works like that |
| 18:06.34 | renchap | * Verified revision 37576. |
| 18:06.34 | renchap | svnadmin: Unexpected end of svndiff input |
| 18:07.08 | Kaelten | I'm running verify on the main repo |
| 18:07.59 | pastamancer | Kaelten: nothing atm |
| 18:08.13 | Kaelten | k |
| 18:08.56 | Kaelten | is it svn5 that gives me striping with some backup? |
| 18:08.58 | Kaelten | er raid5 |
| 18:09.11 | renchap | yes |
| 18:09.23 | renchap | with raid5 you add the size of your disks |
| 18:09.35 | renchap | but one disk is used to store the parity bit |
| 18:09.38 | Kaelten | so if one of the striped drive dies you can still recover everything? |
| 18:09.42 | CIA-22 | 03antiarc * r37711 10Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0/ (Threat-1.0.lua ThreatClassModuleCore.lua credits.txt): (log message trimmed) |
| 18:09.42 | CIA-22 | Threat-1.0: |
| 18:09.42 | CIA-22 | - Fixed a "t is nil" error in the ClassCore |
| 18:09.42 | CIA-22 | - Added cross-locale transparent mob name translation. This is drycoded, and it |
| 18:09.42 | CIA-22 | passes a syntax check but I haven't tested it. I don't have a multi-locale |
| 18:09.42 | renchap | yes |
| 18:09.44 | CIA-22 | group, so if you do, please test this. Ideally, tests will consist of two people |
| 18:09.47 | Cartass | [Ammo]! :'( |
| 18:09.48 | CIA-22 | of different locales in one group. If they both beat on the same mob and both |
| 18:09.53 | renchap | it 2 disks dies you loose all data |
| 18:10.09 | Lyfe | raid5: striping with parity, each disk holds a parity block, you can have one disk failure. |
| 18:10.22 | Kaelten | raid10 allows for two I'm taking it? |
| 18:10.34 | renchap | raid10 = raid 0 + raid 1 |
| 18:10.35 | pastamancer | raid10 is a different beast entirely |
| 18:10.44 | renchap | if i remember |
| 18:10.46 | pastamancer | raid6 is raid 5 with extra parity |
| 18:10.58 | Kaelten | ah so raid6 would allow for two drives to crash? |
| 18:11.06 | pastamancer | but raid5 + hot spares is how I usually roll |
| 18:11.16 | nevcairiel | Antiarc|Work: you know, permanent EU PTR's would make that easy :D someone should petition to blizzard about that, heh |
| 18:11.17 | renchap | yup, raid5+hotspare is good |
| 18:11.23 | Lyfe | yeap, raid6 has two parity blocks per disk. |
| 18:11.26 | renchap | or of you have only 2 disks use raid1 |
| 18:11.31 | CIA-22 | 03antiarc * r37712 10Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0/ThreatClassModuleCore.lua: Threat-1.0: Bugfix for elemental damage. |
| 18:11.34 | kenlyric | raid 6 is good for arrays with very large drives, since the rebuilding of the dead node can take long enough that another node dies. |
| 18:11.34 | renchap | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RAID |
| 18:11.34 | Lyfe | raid5+hotspare is definitely cheaper. |
| 18:12.12 | renchap | and zfs is the must :D |
| 18:12.15 | kenlyric | raid 6 is for paranoia data :) |
| 18:12.26 | Lyfe | the problem with all arrays is that since you tend ot buy all the disks at the same time, they tend to have lifecycles of about the same length. |
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| 18:12.30 | kenlyric | secendary backups, just like on the enterprise. |
| 18:13.00 | Lyfe | actually, live mirroring to a second system + tape backups done on the hour (at worst) are necessary for paranoia. :) |
| 18:13.28 | Lyfe | well, extreme paranoia. |
| 18:13.37 | Antiarc|Work | Punkie`: Do you have a stack trace for that HexCheckSum error? |
| 18:13.45 | Kaelten | svn commits actually generate a drive access don't they? |
| 18:13.54 | renchap | lot of drive accesses |
| 18:14.06 | Lyfe | the problem with any raid solution is that it doesn't solve issues that come up from corrupted data.. which is where tape backups come into play. (or zfs, which is really really nice) |
| 18:14.10 | renchap | and checkout are bad too |
| 18:14.19 | Kaelten | right |
| 18:14.22 | renchap | i think you should use a dedicaced server for svn |
| 18:14.32 | renchap | because of disk accesses |
| 18:14.38 | Kaelten | now a database can be loaded in memory though, so that doesn't generate disk rites |
| 18:14.39 | renchap | it slows a lot your system |
| 18:15.04 | Lyfe | most databases are too big to load into memory, as well as the operations performed on them being too intensive. |
| 18:15.08 | renchap | yes, but svn dont cache thinks into memory |
| 18:15.16 | renchap | *things |
| 18:15.19 | Kaelten | right |
| 18:15.37 | renchap | and the ace repos is quite big |
| 18:15.37 | Kaelten | lyfe wowace's database isn't too big to load into memory yet |
| 18:15.43 | renchap | with a lot of small files |
| 18:15.47 | Kaelten | renchap yet |
| 18:15.53 | Kaelten | I have 16gb of old zip files |
| 18:15.54 | Kaelten | lol |
| 18:16.00 | renchap | 5gb here |
| 18:16.01 | Lyfe | as it shouldn't, becuase when you write to an svn repository, you expect that the data is written to disk, so that when you get confirmed that "your data is committed" a system crash or reboot wouldn't cause loss of that data. |
| 18:16.06 | renchap | i need to write a cleaner script |
| 18:16.21 | [Ammo] | Cartas: they killed me |
| 18:16.26 | [Ammo] | while I was flirting with you! |
| 18:16.26 | renchap | of rm -r * and rerun mkfiles from scratch :D |
| 18:16.35 | [Ammo] | they don't approve of gnome-cow love |
| 18:17.50 | Killmore7 | Antiarc ? |
| 18:17.57 | *** join/#wowace Recluse (i=john@adsl-71-145-149-94.dsl.austtx.sbcglobal.net) |
| 18:18.27 | Kaelten | I'm planning on maintaining an eternal backup of old zips |
| 18:18.39 | Kaelten | GBs are fairly cheap really |
| 18:18.53 | Lyfe | 500gb drive, $120. yeap. |
| 18:19.22 | renchap | Kaelten: i have a free ftp with my server |
| 18:19.24 | Recluse | ArkInventory not letting me right click on some items, yet others are okay. QQ |
| 18:19.24 | Lyfe | down to 4gb/$1. crazy stuff. |
| 18:19.40 | renchap | if i have a 80gb harddrive, i have a free 80gb ftp for backup |
| 18:19.53 | renchap | very useful :) |
| 18:19.53 | Kaelten | hrm, how do I check the size of a mysql db from the command line? |
| 18:20.16 | renchap | check the size of the files ? |
| 18:20.23 | Lyfe | well, you could find the file that the database is in. |
| 18:20.25 | Kaelten | would it be equal to the size of the files? |
| 18:20.35 | renchap | yes |
| 18:20.37 | Lyfe | pretty close. |
| 18:20.46 | Kaelten | ok, I'll check after verify is done its on rev 28k |
| 18:21.02 | Kaelten | I'm thinking about putting files and the svn on a seperate box with raid 5 |
| 18:21.06 | Lyfe | i mean, there will be indexes and such kept in the file, that you might not want to count in terms of size, but ... |
| 18:21.14 | renchap | Kaelten: is raid5 useful ? |
| 18:21.28 | Kaelten | the striping would give a faster read time I believe |
| 18:21.38 | Lyfe | only if your raid5 controller is good. |
| 18:21.39 | nevcairiel | it would boost speed and increase security in case of disk failure |
| 18:21.45 | renchap | hardware raid ? |
| 18:21.53 | Kaelten | if I need to I'll do hardware raid |
| 18:22.07 | Lyfe | cheap raid5 controller = kinda horrible performance. |
| 18:22.07 | nevcairiel | software raid is a terrible strain on the cpu |
| 18:22.09 | Kaelten | raid 0 is back up isn't it? |
| 18:22.09 | nevcairiel | dont go there |
| 18:22.14 | nevcairiel | 1 is backup |
| 18:22.16 | nevcairiel | 0 is performance |
| 18:22.18 | renchap | raid 1 is backup |
| 18:22.22 | Lyfe | raid0 has no redundancy. |
| 18:22.22 | Kaelten | server does a software raid 1 right now |
| 18:22.28 | renchap | same here |
| 18:22.35 | Lyfe | raid1 is mirroring (two drives) |
| 18:22.43 | Kaelten | and the cpu usage is pretty low most of the time |
| 18:22.44 | nevcairiel | software raid 1 is not too bad, just software striping is bad :P |
| 18:22.49 | Lyfe | and as someone said earlier.. zfs is just too damn cool. |
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| 18:22.59 | renchap | if you want raid 5 use hardware raid |
| 18:23.06 | Tornhoof | go 3ware ;) |
| 18:23.11 | renchap | but with raid5 you must have more than 3 disks |
| 18:23.15 | nevcairiel | raid1 does only need to really work on write |
| 18:23.19 | kenlyric | I remembe that frys used to have th terebyte raid 5 box. |
| 18:23.23 | nevcairiel | so its ok for reading :) |
| 18:23.29 | Lyfe | or, learn to use an OS that has zfs. :P |
| 18:23.34 | kenlyric | it was like fisher price my first raid. |
| 18:23.37 | renchap | zfs is really cool |
| 18:23.39 | kenlyric | $1000 for 1tb. |
| 18:23.51 | Lyfe | course, zfs does nail processors pretty good too, if you use raidz2. :P |
| 18:24.36 | renchap | Kaelten: i think that buying another server can be cheaper than hardware raid |
| 18:24.55 | Kaelten | I'm thinking hardware raid 5 on the svn box and software raid1 for the php/db box |
| 18:25.04 | renchap | what do you need for files ? big bw, and thats all |
| 18:25.06 | nevcairiel | that would prolly work |
| 18:25.13 | Lyfe | wish i had money for that kinda stuff. :P |
| 18:25.13 | renchap | lighttpd works fine with old cpu |
| 18:25.37 | Kaelten | a cheap dual core is only 150 or so |
| 18:25.48 | Kaelten | that'd run either server probably |
| 18:26.15 | renchap | i rely like ovh servers, 100mbits without any limits for only 19 euro/month |
| 18:26.24 | renchap | *realy |
| 18:26.41 | renchap | that is very good to host files |
| 18:26.47 | renchap | or for a proxy server |
| 18:27.20 | Kaelten | ya ovh is good, but I'm in the US. |
| 18:27.36 | renchap | Lyfe: me too |
| 18:27.44 | renchap | i have a server with friends |
| 18:28.10 | Lyfe | fdcservers.net is one of the cheaper services i've ever seen in the US. |
| 18:29.00 | Lyfe | i hear they've improved in the past couple years, too. |
| 18:29.07 | renchap | Lyfe: thats not cheap :/ |
| 18:29.27 | renchap | 69 euro/month here, for a core2duo with 1GB ram |
| 18:29.31 | Lyfe | compared to 19euros/mo, no.. |
| 18:29.47 | Lyfe | but, ovh isn't in the US. |
| 18:29.49 | renchap | raid 1, 100Mbit |
| 18:29.52 | CIA-22 | 03ulic * r37713 10LittleWigs/TempestKeep/Skyriss.lua: LittleWigs: TK\Skyriss - Added advanced warning for split |
| 18:29.53 | Fisker- | using www.hetzner.de myself |
| 18:30.24 | Fisker- | 49€ a month |
| 18:30.42 | Fisker- | insane service :P |
| 18:30.57 | renchap | i hope i can work at ovh next year, after i get my diploma |
| 18:31.15 | FtH|Daemona | haha |
| 18:31.21 | FtH|Daemona | mtv.de got hacked |
| 18:31.47 | Lyfe | pretty. |
| 18:32.03 | Kaelten | wowace is a dual core athalon 64 5400+ with 2gb ram software raid 1 250gb hard drive and 100mbit port |
| 18:32.11 | *** join/#wowace Fin (n=Fin@migi.instinct.org) |
| 18:32.15 | Kaelten | and thats hosting literally all the services. |
| 18:32.16 | Josh_Borke | need more ram! |
| 18:32.25 | Josh_Borke | need better processor! |
| 18:32.35 | Kaelten | actually, not that much |
| 18:32.35 | renchap | Kaelten: full 100mbit ? |
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| 18:32.40 | Kaelten | renchap ya, |
| 18:32.53 | Kaelten | we filled it up for long stretches during the patch day |
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| 18:33.27 | Josh_Borke | we need more power captain! |
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| 18:33.59 | renchap | Kaelten: do you pay for each GB transfered ? |
| 18:34.08 | Kaelten | no |
| 18:34.16 | renchap | nice :) |
| 18:34.17 | Kaelten | bandwith billed by the mbit |
| 18:34.26 | Punkie` | Antiarc|Work: It traced to Acecomm, but I just updated and restarted and now get: Threat-1.0\Threat-1.0\ThreatClassModuleCore.lua:719: attempt to get length of local 't' (a nil value) |
| 18:34.32 | Lyfe | 95th percentile or some such? |
| 18:34.33 | Kaelten | my plan includes 10mbits at the 90th percentile a month |
| 18:35.03 | renchap | we have quite good internet access here in france |
| 18:35.23 | renchap | but 4 years ago no adsl :/ |
| 18:35.29 | Kaelten | heh |
| 18:35.34 | Kaelten | I have some insane speed cable at my house |
| 18:35.45 | renchap | now they start to setup fiber @ home |
| 18:35.48 | nevcairiel | i have 3mbit adsl and thats all i can get :( |
| 18:35.49 | Kaelten | was getting downloads from amazon at 2.5MB/s |
| 18:35.59 | renchap | 100mbit for 25 euro/month @ home |
| 18:36.02 | renchap | thats insane |
| 18:36.07 | nevcairiel | thats insane. |
| 18:36.13 | nevcairiel | i pay more for my stupid adsl. |
| 18:36.26 | Iceroth | eh, wtb |
| 18:36.27 | Kaelten | renchap, damn, thats nice |
| 18:36.34 | durcyn | i pay 45 USD for 384kbits =( |
| 18:36.37 | Kaelten | ok the main repo checks out on verify |
| 18:36.42 | Fin | oh my god Surface |
| 18:36.47 | durcyn | stupid american broadband |
| 18:36.48 | Kaelten | so you're going to have to rebuild again :s |
| 18:36.50 | Fin | I have got the horn for Surface |
| 18:36.54 | Silviu- | i pay 12 euro for 1 mbit |
| 18:37.13 | Kaelten | durcyn whoa re you with? |
| 18:37.17 | Fin | I pay 30 euro for 12mbit |
| 18:37.23 | durcyn | Kaelten: TWC |
| 18:37.26 | renchap | in france it depends. if you are not in a big city you only have between 1 and 8 mbit |
| 18:37.30 | Kaelten | hrm not familare with them |
| 18:37.35 | Kaelten | I have comcast |
| 18:37.36 | durcyn | time warner, as in aol =( |
| 18:37.39 | renchap | but if you live in paris you can have insane brandwidth |
| 18:37.43 | renchap | Kaelten: :( |
| 18:37.43 | durcyn | only cable available here |
| 18:37.57 | Kaelten | renchap: I'm going to setup a svnserve for you to work through |
| 18:38.05 | renchap | ok |
| 18:38.09 | renchap | should be faster |
| 18:38.15 | Kaelten | ya and less overhead on the server |
| 18:38.23 | Kaelten | I'm also going to edit the files script to work with it |
| 18:38.23 | renchap | yes |
| 18:38.31 | renchap | apache is very bad solfware |
| 18:38.43 | Kaelten | not really, its pretty stable |
| 18:38.43 | renchap | (bad for the server load) |
| 18:38.45 | durcyn | and to double the misery, the RBOC here is at&t. a friend of mine moved into a verizon area and got their fiber to the curb, sigh. |
| 18:38.53 | renchap | too many features |
| 18:38.55 | Kaelten | and I'll continue to use it for php and python |
| 18:38.57 | renchap | too many ram needed |
| 18:38.58 | Kaelten | ya it is bloated |
| 18:39.00 | Kaelten | thats my only issue |
| 18:39.02 | durcyn | Lyfe: it's not a technical issue, it's a bloated stupid slow company issue. |
| 18:39.08 | renchap | i use fastcgi+lighttpd for php now |
| 18:39.12 | Lyfe | apache is very nice software.. |
| 18:39.16 | durcyn | corporations that run on things written in crayon. |
| 18:39.21 | renchap | works fine, load reduced by 3 |
| 18:39.36 | Lyfe | it's just a bit too modularized, perhaps, for it's own good in performance. |
| 18:40.09 | Kaelten | renchap: fastcgi+lighttpd buckles under high traffice |
| 18:40.51 | Lyfe | well, the real issue is that noone who has built a network in the US is offering cheaper prices than the other guys, so there's not a real big push for lower prices, except in the consumer market. |
| 18:41.01 | durcyn | and most of it's due to someone's idea of breaking up a monoply being.. "hey, let's just break it up into smaller regional monopolies that can collude and eventually merge back together and borg the market in the arse" |
| 18:41.04 | Lyfe | but, only by consumers. |
| 18:41.08 | ravagernl | evl: check your hourglass topic, added readiness talent for hunter |
| 18:41.55 | durcyn | Lyfe: some are. verizon's FIOS offering, for example, is stellar. but none of the LECs compete much with eachother in any given region |
| 18:41.59 | evl | ravagernl: nie |
| 18:42.14 | ravagernl | s/nie/nice/ :P |
| 18:42.16 | Lyfe | durcyn: yeap. around here, it's ATT or bust. |
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| 18:42.22 | Silviu- | renchap, Kaelten could it be that you both using different versions of svn server ? 1.4.2 (r22196) dev, 1.4.3 (r23084). public , could it be the cause of those desyncs ? ;) |
| 18:42.29 | Lyfe | or cable, actually. |
| 18:42.43 | renchap | Silviu-: svn is backward compatible |
| 18:42.46 | Kaelten | Silviu-: unlikely, they are spost to have backwords compat |
| 18:42.50 | Silviu- | Ok |
| 18:42.54 | Silviu- | Just a thought |
| 18:42.55 | Silviu- | :) |
| 18:42.59 | Kaelten | last break was from 1.4.0 rc3 to rc4 |
| 18:43.07 | durcyn | Lyfe: but hey, the old sbc project Lightspeed thing looks great... on paper. |
| 18:43.23 | durcyn | mostly because that's the only place it actually exists :o |
| 18:43.31 | renchap | svn server 1.4.0 can work with client 1.3.0 |
| 18:43.38 | renchap | and client 1.3.0 can work with 1.4.0 server |
| 18:43.43 | renchap | hum |
| 18:43.49 | [Ammo] | Antiarc|Work: [2007/05/30 20:39:23-1138-x3]: Threat-1.0\Threat-1.0\ThreatClassModuleCore.lua:721: attempt to get length of local 't' (a nil value) |
| 18:43.49 | renchap | and client 1.4.0 can work with 1.3.0 server |
| 18:43.52 | renchap | better :D |
| 18:43.56 | snurre | lol, 1% left on curator after first evocation |
| 18:44.08 | Antiarc|Work | Bah! That one won't go away! |
| 18:44.14 | Lyfe | durcyn: heh. well, the one good thing that ATT (sbc, ameritech, whatever) did around here was put everyone within (i think) 1000ft of fiber. which means higher dsl speeds.. supposedly. |
| 18:44.29 | Antiarc|Work | [Ammo]: I think that's fixed in a check-in. Check out from dev or wait for an SVN synch and try again. |
| 18:45.33 | Josh_Borke | Kaelten: btw, i still have my server sync'd |
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| 18:46.01 | durcyn | Lyfe: yes, but they have to 1) move the DSLAMs to those new CO's, and then 2) actually offer the bloody service |
| 18:46.33 | Lyfe | durcyn: which, they won't. |
| 18:47.17 | durcyn | ah, i wish i was in an industry blessed by a government-granted stranglehold on a captive consumer audience. |
| 18:47.27 | durcyn | i'd cackle maniacally all day long while i lined my pockets with fifties. |
| 18:48.44 | shieldb | Lyfe, the 1000ft of fiber thing was just to get them more money, they didn't actually do what it sounds like they would be doing :( |
| 18:50.02 | shieldb | I'm not terribly familiar with the details but they basically got a bunch of federal money as long as they did that, but the requirement was just that they had some fiber within 1000 feet, so there are fiber segments all over the place, with crappy regular wiring on either end that provides no real benefit |
| 18:51.08 | Lyfe | shieldb: err, actually, what it did do is cause the distances related to dsl speeds to be rather negligible... least, that was what it was supposed to do. |
| 18:51.16 | durcyn | oh, bollocks. so att actually has started rolling out some fiber. and they're capping the uploads at a meg. ffs. |
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| 18:51.37 | Lyfe | jee, big suprise. |
| 18:52.02 | shieldb | I'd suggest looking into it - I may be terribly mistaken on the issue but that was the last I heard on it months and months ago |
| 18:52.08 | Lyfe | att's been rolling out fiber (well, the sbc part) in illinois for a couple years. just only in new construction. |
| 18:53.12 | snurre | [2007/05/30 19:15:31-712-x86]: Threat-1.0\Threat-1.0\ThreatClassModuleCore.lua:719: invalid transaction to rollback |
| 18:53.30 | Antiarc|Work | snurre: Update once SVN synchs |
| 18:53.57 | Iceroth | scratch that disk surface! sync it! |
| 18:55.02 | CIA-22 | 03gagorian * r37714 10DrDamage/ (BuffScanning.lua Data/Paladin.lua DrDamage.lua): |
| 18:55.02 | CIA-22 | DrDamage: |
| 18:55.02 | CIA-22 | - Judgement damage for Seal of Vengeance should now properly be calculated on basis off amount of buffs |
| 18:55.02 | CIA-22 | - Updates on profile reset properly |
| 18:55.46 | Antiarc|Work | KTM scans your gear every half second. |
| 18:55.50 | Antiarc|Work | Scans your effing gear. |
| 18:55.59 | TecnoBrat | ............. |
| 18:56.00 | Antiarc|Work | Why? |
| 18:56.03 | TecnoBrat | WTF? |
| 18:56.05 | Chompers | :/ |
| 18:56.09 | Antiarc|Work | Maybe I'm reading this wrong. |
| 18:56.16 | Antiarc|Work | But...geez. Events :( |
| 18:56.17 | Chompers | why does KTM make my brain hurt so much |
| 18:56.19 | TecnoBrat | How resource intensive is that? |
| 18:56.31 | Antiarc|Work | Very. |
| 18:56.32 | Lyfe | about 5fps, on my system. :) |
| 18:56.42 | CIA-22 | 03evl * r37715 10Hourglass/core.lua: |
| 18:56.42 | CIA-22 | Hourglass: |
| 18:56.42 | CIA-22 | - Added Readiness to chained cooldowns. |
| 18:56.48 | Kaelten | of course svnserve is being a pita on my machine |
| 18:56.51 | TecnoBrat | I mean .. just scanning gear |
| 18:57.22 | dotted | anyone know if i am able to disable version query replies from specific addons, like BigWigs and DBM, through a addon? |
| 18:57.29 | TecnoBrat | Antiarc|Work where are you writing this? |
| 18:57.36 | Antiarc|Work | Writing what? |
| 18:57.38 | TecnoBrat | err reading |
| 18:57.40 | TecnoBrat | dammit |
| 18:57.46 | TecnoBrat | which file in KTM |
| 18:57.57 | Mikk | Antiarc|Work: Just hook GetInventory and see how often it actually happens |
| 18:58.17 | Antiarc|Work | It's in KTM_My.lua |
| 18:58.21 | Antiarc|Work | And sorry, it's once every second |
| 18:58.22 | Cartas | How's Karazhan going, [Ammo]? |
| 18:58.34 | *** join/#wowace Athou (n=ask@218.190-65-87.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be) |
| 18:58.38 | Antiarc|Work | It basically checks all possible threat modifiers on you once per second |
| 18:58.51 | Chompers | madness |
| 18:58.53 | *** join/#wowace ven (i=ven@i59F55F0A.versanet.de) |
| 18:58.56 | Antiarc|Work | Buffs, gear, enchants, stances, |
| 18:59.00 | Iceroth | sparta? |
| 18:59.02 | TecnoBrat | Antiarc|Work, tell me at least in combat it only rescans weapons ... |
| 18:59.10 | shieldb | that's really important to me - I don't want to make the vendors in shattrath feel threatened |
| 18:59.14 | shieldb | I always like to keep an eye on that |
| 18:59.21 | Kody- | Anyone know if the author of Titan Panel decided to stop working on it? |
| 18:59.23 | Chompers | no, this is wowace *punts KTM* |
| 19:00.19 | Antiarc|Work | TecnoBrat: Looks like it scans your cloak and gloves every second. |
| 19:00.19 | Antiarc|Work | But not your weapons. |
| 19:00.19 | kenlyric | Kody-: the author of the titan panel has stopped working on it many times... which author is this? :) |
| 19:00.19 | *** join/#wowace Cheads (i=chead@0x57327e75.virnxx18.adsl-dhcp.tele.dk) |
| 19:00.19 | Kody- | Haha, well the most recent one, Adsertor |
| 19:00.45 | alext | if we all donate $10 will the ace replacement for KTM come out sooner? |
| 19:00.46 | alext | ;] |
| 19:01.11 | Antiarc|Work | mod.my.globalthreat provides a list of all your global bonuses that are currently active. The data is designed to be easily printed to the user. The data is updated frequently, because the modifiers can come on and off at any time. This means once every OnUpdate, roughly 40 times per second. As a result we take pains to avoid the creation of new lists, which would otherwise generate excess heap memory. |
| 19:01.12 | Mikk | no, antiarc will buy pizza for all teh monies, eat it all, and fall asleep |
| 19:01.16 | alext | lol |
| 19:01.17 | durcyn | alext: help test it, report bugs. |
| 19:01.20 | hyperChipmunk | lol |
| 19:01.36 | Antiarc|Work | If only there were some kind of notification when buffs or gear changed. |
| 19:01.39 | hyperChipmunk | i think it's basically going as fast as 20-humanly possible |
| 19:01.44 | alext | durcyn: i sure will, will pick it up tonight then |
| 19:01.52 | Killmore | alext: I think the best thing you can do its to give Omen a tryout.. just test it and give Antiarc feedback about threat result |
| 19:02.00 | Antiarc|Work | Honestly, we've done an amazing amount of work in the last five days. |
| 19:02.08 | alext | will do |
| 19:02.10 | Antiarc|Work | We've written 95% of a threat meter from scratch in under a week. |
| 19:02.16 | alext | thats hot ;] |
| 19:02.35 | alext | oh and just to clarify, i wasnt bitching about the development time, just trying to provide incentive ;] |
| 19:03.06 | Antiarc|Work | *grin* |
| 19:03.07 | hyperChipmunk | we have plenty of that in KTM's code |
| 19:03.18 | hyperChipmunk | and its author |
| 19:03.22 | shieldb | oh snaps |
| 19:03.24 | alext | lol |
| 19:03.39 | Mikk | "oh, schnaps" |
| 19:03.44 | hyperChipmunk | it hurts us, precious |
| 19:03.50 | Josh_Borke | now, would KTM be better if it switched from polling all the time to polling based on events |
| 19:03.57 | durcyn | one is not meant to wince when reading code. |
| 19:04.10 | Stephmw | durcyn: it happens all too often alas |
| 19:04.30 | Stephmw | durcyn: mind you, wincing is usually interspersed with laughter and incredulity |
| 19:04.31 | [Ammo] | Antiarc|Work: I am always checked out from dev :p |
| 19:04.31 | Antiarc|Work | Josh_Borke: Certainly. |
| 19:04.34 | Josh_Borke | i wince when reading ckknight's code :-/ |
| 19:04.40 | hyperChipmunk | code? heck, i wince reading the directory listing |
| 19:04.42 | [Ammo] | but I'll update again |
| 19:04.44 | Antiarc|Work | [Ammo]: Hm. I'll double check it, I guess |
| 19:04.52 | Stephmw | hyperChipmunk: you sure you're not having a hernia? |
| 19:05.05 | [Ammo] | it updated 3 files |
| 19:05.09 | hyperChipmunk | KTH_My.lua |
| 19:05.09 | [Ammo] | so must have been that |
| 19:05.10 | hyperChipmunk | wtf |
| 19:05.21 | Antiarc|Work | [Ammo]: That includes the foreign mob name translation code |
| 19:05.23 | hyperChipmunk | local me = { name = "my"} |
| 19:05.23 | hyperChipmunk | local mod = thismod |
| 19:05.23 | Antiarc|Work | Which I haven't tested |
| 19:05.24 | hyperChipmunk | mod[me.name] = me |
| 19:05.28 | Antiarc|Work | So look out for errors there, if you would |
| 19:05.32 | hyperChipmunk | are the first three lines |
| 19:05.54 | hyperChipmunk | that's pretty much enough to make anyone choke |
| 19:06.14 | Stephmw | bah. the top of files is for intro comments |
| 19:06.16 | Antiarc|Work | Read through my.redoglobalthreat() |
| 19:06.20 | Antiarc|Work | It's uh |
| 19:06.22 | Antiarc|Work | Very iterative |
| 19:07.25 | hyperChipmunk | oh wtf |
| 19:07.30 | Antiarc|Work | Then read modifyglobalthreat |
| 19:07.38 | Antiarc|Work | Then note that redoglobalthreat calls modifyglobalthreat about a billion times |
| 19:07.48 | Antiarc|Work | And then note that you're running that constantly whether you're in combat or not. |
| 19:08.21 | hyperChipmunk | local x |
| 19:08.21 | hyperChipmunk | local count = table.getn(me.globalthreat.modifiers) |
| 19:08.21 | hyperChipmunk | |
| 19:08.21 | hyperChipmunk | for x = 1, count do |
| 19:08.38 | hyperChipmunk | does that HAVE to be 3 (4) lines? |
| 19:09.00 | hyperChipmunk | wtf is x outside the for loop |
| 19:09.02 | Antiarc|Work | Each call to modifyglobalthreat is O(n), making the time for redoglobal threat O(n^2) |
| 19:09.39 | hypetech | so does fence scan the auction house for pricing, or does it not deal with price information? |
| 19:09.59 | hyperChipmunk | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:10.24 | hyperChipmunk | WHY are x and count outside the loop |
| 19:10.26 | hyperChipmunk | why |
| 19:10.27 | hyperChipmunk | WHY |
| 19:11.24 | Antiarc|Work | hyperChipmunk: Dim X |
| 19:11.35 | todd | I have no lua experience, but in other languages, it would be better for count outside the loop because otherwise the interpreter has to count the number of items in the table for each iteration |
| 19:12.04 | todd | assuming that's what #me.globalthreat.modifiers does |
| 19:12.31 | Iceroth | doubt the count really counts them 1 by 1? |
| 19:12.33 | Antiarc|Work | todd: In Lua, there's no reason to declare the loop counter outside the loop |
| 19:12.47 | todd | you mean x? |
| 19:12.48 | Antiarc|Work | In fact, there's a really good argument for NOT declaring it outside the loop, as it stays in scope after the loop is done. |
| 19:12.57 | cladhaire | =) |
| 19:12.57 | Antiarc|Work | yeah |
| 19:13.06 | todd | yeah, I get that, but I was talking about count |
| 19:13.12 | cladhaire | explicit scoping like that can make for nasty bugs |
| 19:14.33 | Antiarc|Work | I don't know if Lua re-executes the counter on each loop, but I can test |
| 19:14.33 | Kaelten | ok I have svnserve running and accessiable from localhost |
| 19:14.34 | Antiarc|Work | I don't think it does |
| 19:14.42 | Kaelten | but it won't work from outside |
| 19:14.44 | cladhaire | it doesn't. |
| 19:14.50 | cladhaire | thats the loop invariant |
| 19:14.53 | cladhaire | its set once |
| 19:15.11 | cladhaire | Kaelten: were you ttrying to only bind it to localhost |
| 19:15.14 | hypetech | do i need candybar to run aguf_sheeper? |
| 19:15.29 | Kaelten | cladhaire: I need to expose it |
| 19:15.37 | Antiarc|Work | todd: The table is not recounted on each loop |
| 19:15.38 | cladhaire | hrm.. wonder why its not then |
| 19:15.42 | Kaelten | I didn't set a listen-host |
| 19:16.05 | durcyn | Kaelten: does /usr/sbin/lsof -i show anything sitting on that port/interface? |
| 19:16.33 | Antiarc|Work | todd: http://pastey.net/45825 |
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| 19:16.47 | hyperChipmunk | omg |
| 19:16.59 | todd | "First, all three expressions are evaluated once, before the loop starts." |
| 19:17.03 | Kaelten | its running, I grepped it for 3690 |
| 19:17.03 | hyperChipmunk | i just now really grokked what he's doing with those two functions |
| 19:17.12 | Antiarc|Work | hyperChipmunk: Heheh |
| 19:17.12 | Kaelten | nope nothing |
| 19:17.15 | Antiarc|Work | Glorious, isn't it? |
| 19:17.46 | hyperChipmunk | the evilness, like his variables, is unbounded! |
| 19:18.17 | Antiarc|Work | It re-scans your spells every 10 seconds, and re-scans your gear and talents every second, too |
| 19:19.02 | hyperChipmunk | i like how it re-scans all the modifiers when one changes |
| 19:19.02 | Antiarc|Work | Kaelten == suppository? |
| 19:19.20 | Kaelten | ~lart Antiarc|Work |
| 19:19.20 | purl | takes a rusty axe and swings it violently, taking Antiarc|Work's head off |
| 19:19.20 | hyperChipmunk | O_o |
| 19:19.24 | Antiarc|Work | *grin* |
| 19:19.28 | hyperChipmunk | quick and clean |
| 19:19.40 | hyperChipmunk | not your usual fare, purl |
| 19:19.47 | hyperChipmunk | how about you give him another? |
| 19:19.48 | Kaelten | well it was rusty |
| 19:19.49 | durcyn | Kaelten: just grep for the port, not the pid |
| 19:19.51 | Antiarc|Work | Nooooo |
| 19:19.51 | hyperChipmunk | ~lart Antiarc|Work |
| 19:19.51 | purl | puts Antiarc|Work into a headlock and administers a mighty noogie, rubbing half of Antiarc|Work's hair of |
| 19:19.59 | Antiarc|Work | Hah! Jokes on you! I have no idea! |
| 19:19.59 | hyperChipmunk | weak =\ |
| 19:20.01 | Antiarc|Work | Sucker! |
| 19:20.05 | Antiarc|Work | Err |
| 19:20.07 | Antiarc|Work | No head. |
| 19:20.08 | Kaelten | durcyn: I did 3690 is the port |
| 19:20.09 | Antiarc|Work | Not no idea. |
| 19:20.28 | durcyn | ah, ok. and is 3690 your current daemon, or some zombie? |
| 19:20.29 | Kaelten | ~lart Antiarc|Work |
| 19:20.29 | purl | blasts Antiarc|Work to oblivion with a kamehameha wave |
| 19:20.35 | Antiarc|Work | :( |
| 19:20.42 | Kaelten | durcyn its the default port for svn serve |
| 19:21.34 | durcyn | right, but the idea is to find out what's listening on it for your non-loopback interface |
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| 19:21.37 | Kaelten | sudo lsof -i | grep :3690 |
| 19:21.37 | Kaelten | oh wait I have an idea |
| 19:22.25 | hypetech | what does fence even do? I installed it and I'm not seeing any functionality |
| 19:22.31 | *** mode/#wowace [+o Kaelten] by ChanServ |
| 19:22.42 | Antiarc|Work | hypetech: Among other things, gives you cost-per-unit on stacks of AH things |
| 19:22.45 | todd | lets you post auctions easily |
| 19:22.49 | todd | remembers auction prices |
| 19:22.58 | todd | (your own prices) |
| 19:23.06 | durcyn | also warns you if you're spending too much ;) |
| 19:23.08 | Kaelten | nope that didn't work :s |
| 19:23.39 | hypetech | well. that's not what I was looking for. lol. nice features, just not what I need |
| 19:23.57 | Chompers | Antiarc, i had a look through the warrior module and couldnt find Mortal strike, isnt it implemented yet? |
| 19:24.04 | todd | looking for something like auctioneer I bet? :P |
| 19:24.07 | Kaelten | lsof isn't responding |
| 19:24.11 | hypetech | todd: yes |
| 19:24.27 | hypetech | is KCI working at all? I tried to add it, but it's missing ace and acegui |
| 19:24.37 | Kaelten | checkout kci in the branches |
| 19:24.53 | hypetech | link? |
| 19:25.06 | kenlyric | hypetech: you have to get ace and acegui too if you want to use kci |
| 19:25.17 | kenlyric | or, get the branch :) |
| 19:25.22 | hypetech | ah. I thought that those 2 were just for development |
| 19:25.36 | hypetech | if I'm just wanting to use it, do you recommend the branch, or the one on the updater? |
| 19:25.39 | kenlyric | they're from the stone age, when libs were never embedded :) |
| 19:25.45 | Kaelten | http://svn.wowace.com/wowace/branches/KC_Items/Ace2/KC_Items/ |
| 19:25.56 | Antiarc|Work | Chompers: Does Mortal Strike cause extra threat beyond the damage? |
| 19:26.24 | hypetech | Kaelten, do I need to use SVN to grab that? |
| 19:26.28 | Kaelten | yes |
| 19:26.36 | hypetech | hmm |
| 19:26.53 | hypetech | what's a lean windows svn client |
| 19:26.53 | Kaelten | svn co http://svn.wowace.com/wowace/branches/KC_Items/Ace2/KC_Items/ KC_Items |
| 19:26.59 | Kaelten | from the command line |
| 19:27.03 | Kaelten | or you can use tortisesvn |
| 19:27.36 | Kaelten | I like tortise |
| 19:27.36 | Killmore | no |
| 19:27.45 | Killmore | MS didnt do any +threat than the actual dmg of the MS |
| 19:28.21 | Kaelten | I'm going to take lunch and fight with this more later. |
| 19:28.34 | Kaelten | bbiab |
| 19:28.35 | hypetech | anybody know a good sheep timer? my sheepwatch seems like it got inaccurate as hell after 2.0 |
| 19:28.45 | Silviu- | hypetech Quartz ^^ |
| 19:28.53 | Silviu- | hypetech or ClassTimer |
| 19:28.55 | durcyn | chronometer's solid too. |
| 19:28.58 | hypetech | I use quartz hmm |
| 19:29.00 | Mudkipz | ^ I agree |
| 19:29.02 | hypetech | eff chronometer |
| 19:29.03 | durcyn | though it does far more than sheep |
| 19:29.05 | Mudkipz | Chronometer is the bomb |
| 19:29.20 | hypetech | I had chronometer for a while |
| 19:29.27 | hypetech | I don't want all that just for sheep :p |
| 19:29.32 | Mudkipz | hype, are you using a sheepfocus macro? |
| 19:29.38 | hypetech | no? |
| 19:29.45 | durcyn | there's something in files named "sheppard" that might be useful |
| 19:29.50 | Mudkipz | all you have to do is press it again and it will resheep your current sheep without targeting it |
| 19:29.55 | Mudkipz | let me give and example brb |
| 19:29.58 | hypetech | sheppard isn't what I'm looking for |
| 19:30.11 | durcyn | hypetech: if you set focus, quartz will display a timer below and to the left of your castbar for focus debuffs |
| 19:30.23 | ulic | I believe in ClassTimers you can turn off the ones you don't want |
| 19:30.28 | hypetech | aguf_sheeper might be, but it gives me an error about candybar |
| 19:30.29 | durcyn | simliar to the top-right target debuff timres |
| 19:30.41 | durcyn | s/timres/timers |
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| 19:31.08 | kenlyric | http://blue.cardplace.com/newcache/forums.wow-europe.com/289879210.htm |
| 19:31.14 | kenlyric | it never fails to entertain |
| 19:31.15 | Mudkipz | /msg hypetech /clearfocus [modifier:alt] |
| 19:31.15 | Mudkipz | /clearfocus [target=focus,dead] |
| 19:31.15 | Mudkipz | /clearfocus [target=focus,noexists] |
| 19:31.15 | Mudkipz | /focus [target=focus,noexists] |
| 19:31.15 | Mudkipz | /cast [target=focus] Cyclone |
| 19:31.26 | Mudkipz | that's a simple cyclone macro |
| 19:31.31 | cryogen | closetgnome-ohgnoes is.. weird :) |
| 19:31.33 | Mudkipz | ah shit |
| 19:31.40 | Mudkipz | I screwed that up sorry :( |
| 19:31.46 | Mudkipz | supposed to be in tell |
| 19:31.55 | hypetech | lol |
| 19:32.05 | hyperChi1munk | lol you didn't even manage the first line |
| 19:32.28 | Mudkipz | but yeah |
| 19:32.43 | Mudkipz | just replace the word with poly or whatever your spell name is |
| 19:32.52 | hypetech | so how does that work? I've never gotten into macros much |
| 19:32.57 | hypetech | I just click on the target, then the macro? |
| 19:33.09 | hypetech | ah |
| 19:33.12 | hypetech | I see |
| 19:33.18 | hypetech | ya, that new focus target is handy |
| 19:33.49 | Mudkipz | this macro gives you a modifier to clear focus by holding down and and pressing the macro |
| 19:33.57 | hypetech | but wait, if I'm attacking another target, and I click the macro, won't it change that to my focus and sheep it? |
| 19:34.05 | Mudkipz | it also clears when the target is dead or non existent |
| 19:34.10 | hyperChipmunk | only if you don't have a focus already |
| 19:34.16 | hypetech | I see |
| 19:34.17 | Mudkipz | eerrr holding down *alt * |
| 19:34.22 | hypetech | what is the modifier:alt part? |
| 19:34.28 | hypetech | oooo |
| 19:34.29 | hypetech | kk |
| 19:34.34 | hypetech | that's simple enough |
| 19:34.36 | hyperChipmunk | or, yea, if you're holding down alt it forces the switch |
| 19:34.40 | Kinkx | Anyone else had any problems logging into a raid instance with addons loaded? Lots of people in my guild can't log into SSC with addons if they disconnects |
| 19:34.45 | Silviu- | Mudkipz u can add an #showtooltip Cyclone at start :) |
| 19:34.49 | hypetech | that's a good resheep macro, doesn't solve my timer problem though :p |
| 19:34.55 | hypetech | but I will be using it, tyvm |
| 19:34.58 | Silviu- | Kinkx mine too |
| 19:35.01 | Silviu- | But i can |
| 19:35.04 | Silviu- | Don`t know why :P |
| 19:35.08 | Kinkx | Same, no problem here for me either |
| 19:35.11 | Mudkipz | Silviu-, whoa it shows the cyclone tooltip for a macro? |
| 19:35.15 | Mikk | Mudkipz: gogo post on wowwiki macro section =) |
| 19:35.23 | Silviu- | Mudkipz yes |
| 19:35.27 | Antiarc|Work | Mudkipz: Yes, you can make a macro show an ability tooltip |
| 19:35.28 | Mudkipz | neato |
| 19:35.42 | Silviu- | And add ? as icon |
| 19:35.47 | Silviu- | And u`ll have as original icon |
| 19:35.48 | Silviu- | :) |
| 19:35.48 | Kinkx | Has to be some misbehaving raid addon that people are using |
| 19:36.00 | Silviu- | Kinkx i heard ag made some problems |
| 19:36.14 | durcyn | should be able to also #showicon <Spellname> as well. |
| 19:36.18 | Mikk | #Showtooltip can even have conditionals on it so it changes appearance |
| 19:36.24 | Kinkx | Hmm okie |
| 19:36.32 | jwwpua | is Fence an addon like Auctioneer? |
| 19:36.48 | Kinkx | nope |
| 19:36.51 | Mikk | I'm using it for catform stealth to put pounce where rake is and ravage where shred is when i'm stealthed |
| 19:36.52 | durcyn | jwwpua: no. fence memorizes prices you sell things at, it does not scan others' prices. |
| 19:37.08 | Mikk | Now if I only knew how to get rid of the macrotext name in the button too |
| 19:37.22 | jwwpua | thanks |
| 19:37.26 | Mikk | jwwpua: The only addon like auctioneer is auctioneer |
| 19:38.07 | hypetech | so does KCI do any price scanning? |
| 19:38.16 | durcyn | Mikk: last i saw KCI had an auction module. |
| 19:38.37 | Mikk | True but it doesn't do trending n stuff |
| 19:41.06 | Mudkipz | auctioneer is the key to infinite golds :D |
| 19:41.13 | Mudkipz | buy low sell high |
| 19:41.19 | Mudkipz | and dont forget to monopolize! |
| 19:41.22 | CIA-22 | 03dotted * r37716 10MDFMK/ (8 files in 2 dirs): |
| 19:41.22 | CIA-22 | MDFMK: initial commit |
| 19:41.23 | CIA-22 | - Not working. |
| 19:41.23 | CIA-22 | - I'm self educating Lua, with the addon. |
| 19:41.23 | CIA-22 | - Read readme for my goals with the addon. |
| 19:41.23 | CIA-22 | - Expect me to contact you, if you make a change. |
| 19:41.33 | Stephmw | Antiarc|Work: I forgot to ask - is Omen configurable? |
| 19:41.43 | Antiarc|Work | Not right now. |
| 19:41.45 | dotted | wewt it worked \o/ |
| 19:41.53 | Antiarc|Work | It's really no more than a debugging display for ThreatLib |
| 19:42.06 | Antiarc|Work | It will be getting beefed up once ThreatLib is good to go though. |
| 19:42.41 | hyperChipmunk | hehe |
| 19:42.42 | Stephmw | ok, just to confirm, no errors in Invis |
| 19:42.57 | Antiarc|Work | Stephmw: It works as expected? |
| 19:43.11 | hyperChipmunk | INITIAL COMMITS SHOULD HAVE ADDON DESCRIPTIONS |
| 19:43.17 | Antiarc|Work | <_< |
| 19:43.21 | Antiarc|Work | That's what the TOC is for, right? |
| 19:43.23 | nevcairiel | it said "not working", thats good neough :P |
| 19:43.33 | Antiarc|Work | (my default initial commit message is "Initial commit") |
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| 19:43.37 | *** kick/#wowace [hyperChipmunk!n=staharaj@d14-69-214-77.try.wideopenwest.com] by hyperChipmunk (NO SHOUTING) |
| 19:43.41 | nevcairiel | lol |
| 19:43.41 | Antiarc|Work | ........hahahahah |
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| 19:43.50 | nevcairiel | heh |
| 19:43.51 | hyperChipmunk | what a jerk |
| 19:43.52 | Stephmw | bwahahahaha |
| 19:44.03 | Antiarc|Work | Seriously, you should ban that guy. |
| 19:44.09 | nevcairiel | permanently. |
| 19:44.27 | Stephmw | Antiarc|Work: not sure about aggro yet - initial testing was out of combat... 5min wait |
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| 19:44.53 | Antiarc|Work | Stephmw: Great. Please let me know how it works. |
| 19:45.55 | durcyn | dotted: you listen to weird german metal. |
| 19:46.11 | dotted | no i dont Tekkubs idea :p |
| 19:46.33 | dotted | hyperChipmunk lern2read readme -.- |
| 19:46.34 | Mikk | KMFDM ftbloodyw |
| 19:46.47 | vhaarr | dotted: Didn't you see my DBMFTLBBQ? |
| 19:47.00 | snurre | Antiarc|Work: does warrior threat calc correctly for you? doesnt seem like it here :/ |
| 19:47.06 | dotted | no |
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| 19:47.27 | Antiarc|Work | snurre: Yeah, it works for me in my testing. My warrior's a 63 fury warrior, though, so I'm missing things like Defiance |
| 19:47.35 | vhaarr | http://svn.wowace.com/wowace/trunk/DBMFTLBBQ/DBMFTLBBQ.lua |
| 19:47.40 | jokp | any idea why cartographer doesnt show unexplored areas? is there a module that i should have? |
| 19:47.41 | Antiarc|Work | Also, demoralizing shout doesn't seem to work right |
| 19:47.47 | Antiarc|Work | I need to test that more thoroughly |
| 19:47.47 | snurre | im constantly at 150-250% of my MT's threat in kara |
| 19:47.50 | snurre | and not pulling aggro |
| 19:48.02 | dotted | vhaarr but thays only DBM |
| 19:48.08 | Antiarc|Work | snurre: MT is a warrior? |
| 19:48.15 | snurre | yea |
| 19:48.20 | Antiarc|Work | What class are you? |
| 19:48.31 | Mudkipz | jokp, do you have foglight? |
| 19:48.42 | Antiarc|Work | Second question, are you running KTM, and if so, whose number if wrong, yours or the tank's? |
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| 19:49.19 | CIA-22 | 03morgalm * r37717 10MorgBid/ (MorgBid.lua MorgBid.toc): |
| 19:49.19 | CIA-22 | MorgBid: |
| 19:49.19 | CIA-22 | - fixed query frame appearing off screen when saved variables exists |
| 19:49.45 | jokp | yes |
| 19:49.52 | jokp | i disabled it, no difference |
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| 19:50.36 | snurre | Antiarc|Work: im warlock.. MT doesnt have ktm atm, so cant compare |
| 19:50.49 | Antiarc|Work | snurre: Are your numbers significantly higher than KTM's |
| 19:50.50 | Antiarc|Work | ? |
| 19:51.12 | snurre | nope, my numbers are pretty much identical |
| 19:51.24 | Mudkipz | jokp, re-enable foglight |
| 19:51.28 | Antiarc|Work | Ok, so his numbers are too low then. Thanks, I'll do some more benchmarking on my war. |
| 19:51.36 | Antiarc|Work | snurre: What spec is he? |
| 19:51.39 | snurre | prot |
| 19:51.52 | Antiarc|Work | Using devastate? |
| 19:51.57 | Antiarc|Work | I haven't tested that, but it could explain it. |
| 19:52.11 | snurre | probably, dont have swstats so cant see his breakdown |
| 19:52.22 | Antiarc|Work | What's his name? |
| 19:52.23 | snurre | gonna start on malchezaar now, ill take screenie |
| 19:52.24 | Antiarc|Work | And realm? |
| 19:52.31 | snurre | Teninches on dragonmaw eu |
| 19:52.38 | Antiarc|Work | Thanks |
| 19:52.41 | dotted | omg someone add copyable text on the SVN for beginners page for the Externals part :(((( |
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| 19:52.59 | Stephmw | Antiarc|Work: just counterspelled a critter... shouldn't I have some threat from that? |
| 19:53.22 | knarf- | Watcha talking about ? |
| 19:53.27 | Antiarc|Work | Stephmw: you should, but I don't think I have counterspell in the mage module yet. Do you know how much threat each of the ranks cause? |
| 19:53.34 | jokp | Mudkipz i did |
| 19:53.41 | jokp | nothing changed :S |
| 19:53.56 | Stephmw | Antiarc|Work: other than <lots> I have no idea... there's also imp CS |
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| 19:53.58 | Killmore | maybe 1 threat.. just puting you in the threat list |
| 19:54.00 | jokp | ah fixed it |
| 19:54.12 | Antiarc|Work | Hehe, ok |
| 19:54.19 | Antiarc|Work | CS is explicitly high threat |
| 19:54.24 | Stephmw | Killmore: yeah, I think the threat level depends on whether I've interrupted |
| 19:54.24 | Antiarc|Work | I'll dig up values for it |
| 19:55.28 | Stephmw | Antiarc|Work: ok, <blast><sheep><invis><break invis> correctly zeroes threat |
| 19:55.39 | Antiarc|Work | Stephmw: Kickass, thank you. |
| 19:55.41 | NightHawkTheSane | Antiarc|Work: regarding warrior threat, i'm not entirely sure how you're handling sunder, but is it possible you're missing uses of it after the 5th? I know at one point the only way to detect that was hooking castspell/useaction or whatever. |
| 19:55.42 | Stephmw | Antiarc|Work: I'll have to try it in a group situation where the mob is still engaged |
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| 19:56.25 | Antiarc|Work | NightHawkTheSane: Nope, that's what spell transactions are for - I'm watching UNIT_SPELLCAST_SENT and then commiting transactions that don't register failure in 1 second. |
| 19:56.55 | Antiarc|Work | In fact, I wrote the spell transactions bits using Sunder to test ;) |
| 19:57.00 | NightHawkTheSane | Antiarc|Work: *nod* okay, I wasn't sure if there was a spellcast_sent event for that, I haven't actually done anything with it in a while. >.> |
| 19:57.10 | Antiarc|Work | Yeah, there's just no event if it lands. |
| 19:57.23 | Antiarc|Work | Also, KTM doesn't register Counterspell threat *boggle* |
| 19:57.49 | Jaxon | Does Counterspell HAVE threat? |
| 19:57.51 | Chompers | the further you go into ktms code the weirder it gets |
| 19:58.57 | cladhaire_ | Antiarc|Work: They removed the threat from counterspell |
| 19:58.57 | Antiarc|Work | Jaxon: Yes, lots of it, according to the tooltip |
| 19:59.00 | cladhaire_ | no |
| 19:59.01 | cladhaire_ | they removed that |
| 19:59.08 | Antiarc|Work | Oh! |
| 19:59.10 | Antiarc|Work | That would explain it. |
| 19:59.15 | Stephmw | cladhaire_: how does it work then? |
| 19:59.19 | *** mode/#wowace [+o cladhaire] by ChanServ |
| 19:59.22 | Antiarc|Work | "Counters the enemy's spellcast, preventing any spell from that school of magic from being cast for 8 sec. Â Generates a high amount of threat." |
| 19:59.24 | Stephmw | cladhaire_: just interrupt threat? |
| 19:59.29 | Antiarc|Work | Huh, that's from wowhead |
| 19:59.31 | cladhaire | It was in the patch notes. |
| 19:59.32 | Antiarc|Work | Is that out of date? |
| 19:59.52 | Stephmw | Antiarc|Work: my tooltip still says that |
| 20:00.01 | cladhaire | I'll hunt for the notes |
| 20:00.06 | cladhaire | but I believe I read it was removed. |
| 20:00.14 | Antiarc|Work | cladhaire: The only CS change I know of was that they took it off of the GC |
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| 20:00.49 | Kaelten | Mikk in time it will |
| 20:00.57 | cladhaire | hrm |
| 20:00.59 | cladhaire | no notes on the wiki |
| 20:01.01 | cladhaire | *shrug* |
| 20:01.09 | cladhaire | i'm delusional apparently =) |
| 20:01.23 | Kaelten | we know but we love |
| 20:01.54 | Killmore | cladhaire: maybe you read about mindblast ? because mindblast lost the "double threat" in 2.0 or something like that |
| 20:01.56 | dotted | something i dont get in the SVN for Beginners |
| 20:02.04 | cladhaire | oh thats possible. |
| 20:02.04 | dotted | svn:eol-style native <- where is that supposed to be? |
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| 20:02.37 | Kaelten | property on every file |
| 20:02.38 | NightHawkTheSane | dotted: http://svnbook.red-bean.com/ |
| 20:02.44 | NightHawkTheSane | read, learn. :) |
| 20:04.08 | NightHawkTheSane | wtf...patch on a wednesday? |
| 20:04.19 | cladhaire | fixes the #132 |
| 20:04.20 | dotted | do i add it to properties, like svn:externals??? |
| 20:04.27 | kenlyric | breaks everything else |
| 20:04.53 | NightHawkTheSane | cladhaire: yeah, i gathered as europe got a patch earlier, but why not at normal patch time? :P |
| 20:04.57 | NightHawkTheSane | dotted: yes, read the book. |
| 20:05.09 | dotted | i am :/ |
| 20:05.11 | cladhaire | NightHawkTheSane: because it wasn't ready until today, and they wanted to get it out so people wouldn't keep crashing |
| 20:05.32 | BankZ | Is there any addon that lets you see incoming heals in agUF? |
| 20:06.09 | TecnoBrat | BankZ, how do you mean? |
| 20:06.24 | Antiarc|Work | Stephmw: You should be able to test counterspell's threat. Get a buddy that is not a rogue/druid/war to melee a mob for 1000 damage, then cast counterspell till you pull aggro. |
| 20:06.44 | Stephmw | Antiarc|Work: that's gonna take years |
| 20:06.47 | Stephmw | Antiarc|Work: :) |
| 20:06.50 | Antiarc|Work | Heh |
| 20:06.55 | Antiarc|Work | Or 100 damage, or whatever :P |
| 20:07.02 | Stephmw | it's more the cooldown on CS |
| 20:07.05 | Antiarc|Work | Yeah |
| 20:07.16 | Stephmw | ok, I'll test that when the missus gets home |
| 20:07.16 | TecnoBrat | then counterspell 5 times, and then have a mage with a lvl 1 dagger melee the mob |
| 20:07.24 | Antiarc|Work | I have a 32 mage as well, so I can probably do some testing too |
| 20:07.25 | TecnoBrat | :P |
| 20:07.29 | snurre | Antiarc|Work: http://img248.imageshack.us/img248/5750/wowscrnshot053007215448dr2.jpg --- http://img114.imageshack.us/img114/5692/wowscrnshot053007215719gy8.jpg |
| 20:07.33 | BankZ | TecnoBrat: Well when you are healing, predicts what the new health will be |
| 20:07.36 | BankZ | like Healbot |
| 20:07.37 | Antiarc|Work | TecnoBrat: That would work well too. |
| 20:07.57 | Elkano | cladhaire, you said EBB is in your book but looking over its index I couldn't find it :( (besides reding over the addons presented I wondered if a book on addons makes that much sense...) |
| 20:08.08 | TecnoBrat | BankZ, oh, I've never used anything like that |
| 20:08.18 | cladhaire | Elkano: huh? |
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| 20:09.11 | hypetech | is Grid more resource intensive that sRaidFrames? |
| 20:09.20 | dotted | NightHawkTheSane if i understood correctly i have to set it manually on each file? |
| 20:09.21 | cladhaire | Elkano: looks like Dan didn't get it in |
| 20:09.30 | cladhaire | but I don't understand your other statement |
| 20:09.36 | BankZ | I like HealBot just wish it would auto hide if I am not in a group |
| 20:09.39 | NightHawkTheSane | dotted: look up auto-props |
| 20:09.45 | BankZ | I am looking for something else like that |
| 20:10.04 | BankZ | Maybe I will try grid |
| 20:10.11 | dotted | NightHawkTheSane ok? |
| 20:10.24 | BankZ | but ive tried it a few times and didnt like |
| 20:10.45 | Kaelten | how do I check if the firewall is blocking ap ort? |
| 20:11.03 | Josh_Borke | Kaelten: which firewall? see if you can connect to it? |
| 20:11.37 | NightHawkTheSane | Kaelten: you can try to see if the port is open using something like http://www.canyouseeme.org/ |
| 20:11.43 | durcyn | Kaelten: sudo iptables -L would be a start |
| 20:12.02 | TecnoBrat | cladhaire, I have a small bug with clique, maybe there is a workaround, so I thought I'd ask. when I make a new binding, since the binding defaults to left click, it breaks my left click to target someone ... and I have to reload my ui after binding it to something else to target someone with left click |
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| 20:12.08 | durcyn | however, i'm able to telnet to 3690 and get a response from svnserve from outside, so i think it's working :o |
| 20:12.34 | Kaelten | durcyn from wowace's server you can? |
| 20:13.09 | BankZ | Any recommendations on good Healer addons? |
| 20:13.17 | ulic | TecnoBrat: check out his wowi page, he has links to nifty video's that talk about that very thing. |
| 20:13.33 | Killmore | hmmm im using perfectraid, quartz |
| 20:13.45 | Killmore | BankZ |
| 20:13.48 | durcyn | Kaelten: from here. to svn.wowace.com:3690 |
| 20:13.52 | durcyn | ( success ( 1 2 ( ANONYMOUS ) ( edit-pipeline svndiff1 absent-entries ) ) ) |
| 20:13.59 | TecnoBrat | ulic, thanks, I'll check it out, appreciate it |
| 20:14.01 | dotted | NightHawkTheSane so all the files i already set up, needs to ba changed to native? |
| 20:14.03 | hypetech | any mages here that use XRS and Detox and just say to hell with the raidframes? |
| 20:14.31 | Mudkipz | lol so i'm fixing the secretary's home computer and i just stumbled onto her sons stash of pr0n |
| 20:14.35 | Kaelten | thats not the server I'm on :P |
| 20:14.47 | Mudkipz | hmm |
| 20:14.56 | NightHawkTheSane | dotted: erm, if you already commited them, then you must have had the eol-style set properly, as i don't believe the svn server will allow you to commit with it set improperly |
| 20:15.26 | BankZ | Killmore: what are they like? |
| 20:15.33 | dotted | ah ok |
| 20:16.02 | cladhaire | TechnoBrat: That's not a bug, it just does what you tell it do |
| 20:16.07 | Kaelten | durcyn: I don't see anything regarding svn on iptables |
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| 20:16.36 | cladhaire | Technobrat: I can't guess what settings were set on the frame to begin with |
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| 20:16.52 | TecnoBrat | cladhaire, problem is that every new one I create defaults to left click .. and when I bind it to something else .. I dont get the default left click behaviour back without reloading UI .. |
| 20:17.01 | TecnoBrat | ahh okay, I can live with unfixable :) |
| 20:17.02 | snurre | Antiarc|Work: percentage values coming for Omen? |
| 20:17.12 | TecnoBrat | I'll just reload ui every time I create new things, hehe |
| 20:17.17 | Elkano | cladhaire, well, I obviously haven't read the book and I'm only judging from the index in excerpt 3... so I don't know how he talks about the addons (and possible alternatives) |
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| 20:17.45 | durcyn | Kaelten: if i can get to it, it's not firewalled =P |
| 20:17.47 | Elkano | cladhaire: and wrt EBB I just noticed that it may be shortly mentioned in the PhotekUI part |
| 20:17.54 | cladhaire | Elkano: Well, the book is published, has been written for quite some time |
| 20:17.58 | cladhaire | Of course there's a reason for it being written |
| 20:18.06 | Kaelten | durcyn svn.wowace.com isn't the server that I'm working on |
| 20:18.10 | Kaelten | thats a different ox |
| 20:18.11 | Kaelten | box |
| 20:18.20 | durcyn | Kaelten: oh bollocks. what's the hostname? |
| 20:18.26 | Kaelten | www.wowace.com |
| 20:18.29 | Kaelten | :) |
| 20:18.59 | Antiarc|Work | snurre: Percentage values are coming. |
| 20:19.10 | durcyn | shows filtered state in nmap. |
| 20:19.26 | Kaelten | durcyn: ? |
| 20:19.58 | cladhaire | Elkano: I'm really not sure what you're trying to say |
| 20:20.24 | durcyn | Kaelten: it's not even returning an icmp code that the port is closed, totally dead to the world. |
| 20:20.32 | Kaelten | :s |
| 20:20.53 | durcyn | you sure there's not some other hung pid on that port? |
| 20:21.20 | jwwpua | is MSBT ace? |
| 20:22.04 | snurre | Antiarc|Work: sweet :) |
| 20:23.07 | Kaelten | renchap: |
| 20:23.08 | Kaelten | ping? |
| 20:23.09 | Elkano | well, nvm ^^ my thought are sometimes a bit weird ;) thinking about how hard it is to pick a few addons to present being somewhat fair to the authors and that most likely everyone would choose somewhat different |
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| 20:24.34 | BankZ | Anyone know the URL for Clique? |
| 20:25.57 | Elkano | http://code.google.com/p/wow-clique/ ? |
| 20:26.13 | snurre | hm, once in a while Omen doesnt reset my threat properly.. right now im at 1.4k threat without being in combat with anything |
| 20:26.32 | Mudkipz | lol what the hell |
| 20:26.39 | Antiarc|Work | snurre: Yeah, I've noticed that. It's on the todo list. |
| 20:26.44 | snurre | <3 |
| 20:26.44 | Mudkipz | someone installed a 2nd HD in the machine and didn't screw it down |
| 20:26.49 | Elkano | BankZ, for download: http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/fileinfo.php?id=5108 |
| 20:26.56 | BankZ | thaks |
| 20:26.58 | BankZ | *thanks |
| 20:27.03 | Mudkipz | so it's hanging off the power wire |
| 20:27.51 | TecnoBrat | I love clique :) |
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| 20:31.05 | FreddyFlint | Anyone know how to get DrDamage to display avghit on spellicons on blizzard's own extra bottom bars/side bars? |
| 20:31.24 | dotted | vhaarr you mind if i play with your DBFTLBBQ? |
| 20:31.33 | hyperChipmunk | Mudkipz: i'm pretty sure that's standard mounting procedure |
| 20:31.43 | vhaarr | dotted: no |
| 20:31.49 | dotted | <3 |
| 20:31.52 | vhaarr | dotted: I haven't even tested it. |
| 20:32.01 | vhaarr | dotted: Since I know noone that uses DBM. |
| 20:32.06 | dotted | hehe |
| 20:32.26 | TecnoBrat | WTF @ DBFTLBBQ |
| 20:32.52 | Kaelten | rc1.d scripts get ran on load correct? |
| 20:32.53 | dotted | well it will probably be a blatant ripoff for now - but i will change it as i get more confident in lua |
| 20:33.09 | dotted | TecnoBrat add a M after DB |
| 20:33.30 | TecnoBrat | DBM sucks :P |
| 20:33.36 | Kaelten | DBM? |
| 20:33.42 | TecnoBrat | Deadly Boss Mods |
| 20:34.06 | durcyn | Kaelten: rc1.d is single user mode |
| 20:34.13 | dotted | TecnoBrat why do you think we are making fake version query replyer addons :P? |
| 20:34.26 | durcyn | Kaelten: most inits take a system to 4 once it's fully up. |
| 20:34.32 | TecnoBrat | because you have dumb people in your guild? |
| 20:34.32 | Kaelten | durcyn: I just need to ad a one line script to get ran whenever the system is up |
| 20:34.40 | dotted | that too ofc |
| 20:34.41 | TecnoBrat | just make them get BigWigs :P |
| 20:34.50 | dotted | they wont budge |
| 20:34.52 | TecnoBrat | problem solved |
| 20:34.53 | TecnoBrat | blah |
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| 20:34.58 | vhaarr | dotted: ripoff? |
| 20:35.01 | durcyn | Kaelten: if you want it up in mutli-user mode, runlevels 2-5 would be the place |
| 20:35.08 | dotted | they said i had to use DBM or dont raid |
| 20:35.20 | dotted | vhaarr i give you creditz |
| 20:35.25 | dotted | :( |
| 20:35.27 | vhaarr | dotted: why would you rip it |
| 20:35.44 | vhaarr | just use the mod? |
| 20:36.02 | dotted | im expanding my mod, its not only for DBM |
| 20:36.44 | dotted | only for KTM, heck even bigwigs |
| 20:36.49 | dotted | ehhh |
| 20:36.53 | dotted | *also |
| 20:37.14 | dotted | more to be added etc |
| 20:37.50 | Mudkipz | hyperChipmunk, maybe.... |
| 20:38.55 | dotted | hope you dont mind vhaarr, its only tempoary until i get confident in lua |
| 20:39.01 | CIA-22 | 03antiarc * r37718 10Omen/ (Libs/ Omen.lua Omen.toc OmenMenu.lua localization_enUS.lua): Omen: Added AceLocale, AceDB, registered chat command /omen with one parameter "toggle". Drycode and untested. |
| 20:39.13 | vhaarr | dotted: I just think it could be done in small mods like mine, there's no reason to make a suite. |
| 20:39.17 | Fisker- | new guild dotted |
| 20:39.24 | Fisker- | good luck finding it |
| 20:39.25 | vhaarr | dotted: and Tekkub has already made a KTM thing. |
| 20:39.31 | dotted | i know |
| 20:39.44 | vhaarr | dotted: So the only thing "missing" is BigWigs |
| 20:39.52 | vhaarr | dotted: so make a small 5-line mod that does that. |
| 20:40.08 | dotted | nah no challenge |
| 20:40.39 | TecnoBrat | dotted wants to do the extra work, lol |
| 20:40.47 | Mikk | Just curious: Why does DBM "suck"? Just cause it's not Ace or is there actually any meat in the beef? =P |
| 20:40.49 | Antiarc|Work | Question: If AceLocale has a registered enUS translation for a string, but you're running non-enUS without a translation for it, does the user get an error or the enUS version? |
| 20:40.55 | dotted | dotted wants to learn lua |
| 20:41.06 | dotted | that requires extra work usually |
| 20:41.44 | TecnoBrat | Mikk, ugly, ugly config, seems slower (I have no actual data on it), and it allows you to do things like log players out, make them emote, etc |
| 20:41.52 | TecnoBrat | not really keen on that |
| 20:41.54 | Saroz | http://i15.tinypic.com/4lsin86.jpg lol |
| 20:42.19 | Mikk | I see the point in letting raid leaders log you out |
| 20:42.38 | Mikk | God knows I've been stuck in raids with people waiting to replace afk people long enough |
| 20:42.39 | Gagorian | FreddyFlint: Using only blizzard actionbar? |
| 20:42.53 | TecnoBrat | Saroz, wtf is your fubar doing? |
| 20:43.00 | Saroz | not my SS |
| 20:43.12 | Killmore | its Antiarc SS :P |
| 20:43.13 | Saroz | it catches all embed btw |
| 20:43.17 | vhaarr | Mikk: Well for one they just ninja our mods. |
| 20:43.19 | Saroz | fubar that is |
| 20:43.29 | vhaarr | Mikk: And you should try reading the code. |
| 20:43.53 | Antiarc|Work | TecnoBrat: That's with CPU profiling enabled and the Fubar_PerformanceFu tooltip detacthed |
| 20:44.04 | Antiarc|Work | So FuBar is pounding the hell out of my machine doing the CPU profiling + tablet updatews |
| 20:44.06 | Antiarc|Work | updates* |
| 20:44.09 | TecnoBrat | Antiarc|Work, ahh ... |
| 20:44.19 | Mikk | vhaarr: I see enough crap code without purposefully reading more of it thankyouverymuch =P |
| 20:44.39 | TecnoBrat | Mikk, I write enough of it .. dont need to see anyone elses |
| 20:44.42 | vhaarr | Mikk: indeed |
| 20:44.43 | TecnoBrat | err I mean .. uhh ... |
| 20:44.45 | Mikk | haha |
| 20:46.05 | Mikk | Okay... <devil's advocate> .. wouldn't it be nice to add force logout to .. oh.. oRA2? Obviously with shitloads of checks that it isn't abused, like, only RL/RA can do it, only if I'm in the same instance as them ... only if I'm flagged afk ...? |
| 20:47.09 | TecnoBrat | I find using the tools blizzard gave us is better than logging them out |
| 20:47.18 | Mikk | Which tool would that be? |
| 20:47.34 | TecnoBrat | . /gremove |
| 20:47.42 | Mikk | How do you get rid of someone gone on an extended afk from your instance to make room for a replacement? |
| 20:47.58 | Mikk | ... when he's been saved? |
| 20:47.58 | ZealotOnAStick | doesn't remove them from the instance if they're saved to it, though. |
| 20:47.59 | TecnoBrat | works great, permenantly fixes the problem |
| 20:48.07 | Mikk | Then they stay in the instance guildless. Great improvement. |
| 20:48.17 | TecnoBrat | I was being sarcastic :P |
| 20:48.17 | Mikk | And yeha if someone KEEPS doing it they obviously need to be gkicked |
| 20:48.23 | Josh_Borke | only for a week :-D |
| 20:48.23 | Mikk | But c'mon, we've all had emergencies |
| 20:49.09 | Mikk | (Hrm.. didn't blizz add a requirement for user interaction for logout? :S) |
| 20:49.27 | TecnoBrat | they may have now, I don't know |
| 20:49.43 | dotted | change logout with hearthstone |
| 20:49.50 | Mikk | spellcast |
| 20:50.00 | durcyn | Mikk: out of combat though |
| 20:50.02 | hyperChipmunk | Hourglass\core.lua:112: attempt to compare string with number |
| 20:50.09 | hyperChipmunk | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:50.16 | hyperChipmunk | when changing min time |
| 20:50.29 | TecnoBrat | still cant cast a spell without user interaction though |
| 20:50.47 | durcyn | oh, true. |
| 20:50.50 | TecnoBrat | hardware input* |
| 20:50.51 | Matrix110 | hmmmm |
| 20:51.06 | Matrix110 | BugSacks stops working due to a huge amount of bugs created from Aloft Oo |
| 20:51.36 | Matrix110 | bets its because i updated and didnt restart wow^^ |
| 20:51.39 | TecnoBrat | Matrix110, it might be simply ignoring them for a minute or whatever |
| 20:51.47 | hyperChipmunk | toss those bugs inna landfill! |
| 20:51.59 | Matrix110 | ye TecnoBrat it does |
| 20:53.36 | durcyn | hyperChipmunk: there are four comparisons on those lines, min the only change you made? |
| 20:53.48 | hyperChipmunk | only change *I* made |
| 20:53.57 | hyperChipmunk | the value in the table was "6.1" |
| 20:54.04 | hyperChipmunk | instead of numerical 6.1 |
| 20:54.09 | hyperChipmunk | just tonumber it |
| 20:54.13 | Mikk | Nop, Logout() works just fine without user interaction |
| 20:54.38 | CIA-22 | 03phyber * r37719 10Lexan/ (Lexan.lua Lexan.toc): |
| 20:54.38 | CIA-22 | Lexan: |
| 20:54.38 | CIA-22 | - Updated to WoW 2.1, a few functions needed changing. |
| 20:55.01 | phyber | not sure if Lexan is needed in 2.1, but the errors were irritating :p |
| 20:55.18 | TecnoBrat | what is it? |
| 20:55.46 | durcyn | supposed to keep the AH window open from things that sometimes close it.. like annoying sods opening trade |
| 20:55.52 | CIA-22 | 03phyber * r37720 10Lexan/Lexan.lua: |
| 20:55.52 | CIA-22 | Lexan: |
| 20:55.52 | CIA-22 | - Oops, missed one. |
| 20:55.53 | Mikk | [Ammo] / haste: ping ... wtb forcelogout in oRA2 :> |
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| 20:56.17 | haste | Mikk: I don't do oRA2 :D |
| 20:56.33 | haste | Mikk: but it won't be added |
| 20:56.55 | Mikk | "A CT_RaidAssist alternative (Haste, Ammo and others )" my bad :-P |
| 20:57.19 | Mikk | haste: 10 mins ago: Okay... <devil's advocate> .. wouldn't it be nice to add force logout to .. oh.. oRA2? Obviously with shitloads of checks that it isn't abused, like, only RL/RA can do it, only if I'm in the same instance as them ... only if I'm flagged afk ...? |
| 20:57.40 | Killmore | haha, can be fun a force logout in ora2, no more ninja afk you take a spot in the instance |
| 20:57.48 | snurre | lol, a lock got od'd by a warrior on nightbane....... |
| 20:57.52 | Killmore | *who |
| 20:57.53 | haste | Mikk: I'm almost 100% sure that [Ammo] won't add it |
| 20:58.06 | nevcairiel | i second that 100% |
| 20:58.12 | Mikk | I dunno, it just seems sane to me with the checks |
| 20:58.12 | Kebinusan | ID like to have a force logout option |
| 20:58.13 | nevcairiel | plus i would fork it if its added :P |
| 20:58.14 | Kebinusan | honestly |
| 20:58.27 | Mikk | nevcairiel: why? you go on extended afks lots in instances? |
| 20:58.29 | Kebinusan | as a raid lead there are times where this would be useful |
| 20:58.31 | nevcairiel | no |
| 20:58.40 | Antiarc|Work | I'd bet good money that /logout becomes protected before too long. |
| 20:58.41 | nevcairiel | i just dont like the thought someone being able to log me out |
| 20:58.46 | nevcairiel | and i am a raid leader myself |
| 20:58.58 | Mikk | you've never had someone go on an extended afk and screw you over then i take it? |
| 20:59.15 | Kebinusan | I dont like people going afk in my raid and making 9 people wait, which is the greater evil |
| 20:59.21 | Jaxon | It wouldn't be an INSTANT logout |
| 20:59.32 | Kebinusan | you still get the 20 second logout thing |
| 20:59.36 | Mikk | aye |
| 20:59.57 | NightHawkTheSane | I think if you're taht impatient that you need to force them to log out, you should learn to relax. :P |
| 21:00.05 | alext | well |
| 21:00.07 | pastamancer | here's a crazy idea: make it a separate addon |
| 21:00.09 | alext | when your respawn timer is ticking down |
| 21:00.11 | alext | ... ;] |
| 21:00.18 | Kebinusan | exactly alext |
| 21:00.24 | Mikk | pastamancer: and chances are that anyone except the raid leader would download that are .... how high? |
| 21:00.30 | NightHawkTheSane | who cares? There's always tomorrow, or the next night, or next week. |
| 21:00.37 | alext | who cares? heheh |
| 21:00.45 | alext | how would you like to clear trash for an hour and a half |
| 21:00.49 | alext | then have someone go afk |
| 21:00.53 | nevcairiel | Mikk: we have had those people, but then again.. i still wont install an addon which can remotely logout anyone. |
| 21:00.55 | alext | then wipe on the boss |
| 21:00.58 | alext | and quit because of respawns |
| 21:01.00 | alext | ? |
| 21:01.05 | Kebinusan | NightHawkTheSane: yeah, making 9-24 people wait for one person is such a wonderful thing |
| 21:01.15 | alext | i dunno about you, but wasting 2 hours of my life on trash isnt what i have in mind for a fun night of raiding ;] |
| 21:01.16 | pastamancer | Mikk: if you care about being able to log people out, you make them install it to get a raid invite |
| 21:01.18 | Kebinusan | sometimes people either afk or fall asleep and dont logout first locking the instance full |
| 21:01.20 | NightHawkTheSane | I'd rather wait than have a situation where any person can lose control of their computer's actions. |
| 21:01.29 | Mikk | pastamancer: true |
| 21:01.32 | alext | yah i dont really agree with the logout thing personally |
| 21:01.36 | alext | but i understand the reasoning for it |
| 21:01.41 | NightHawkTheSane | But that kind of thing matters to me more than a stupid game. |
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| 21:02.03 | Killmore | so you will not use it, but people want it :P |
| 21:02.04 | Mikk | ehm... "lose control"? |
| 21:02.17 | Mikk | if you go afk, you will get logged out, period |
| 21:02.18 | Kebinusan | But hey you lose control over your pc when you are required to have boss mods or a raid assist mod no? |
| 21:02.26 | Mikk | this just has the potential to make it happen a bit quicker |
| 21:02.28 | Mikk | if necessary |
| 21:02.29 | Kebinusan | this is no different |
| 21:02.40 | TecnoBrat | nevcairiel, I'm also a raid leader, and I just don't like the idea of someone having that much control over people's wow clients .. seems .. wrong .. just in principle |
| 21:02.54 | NightHawkTheSane | Kebinusan: there's a very big and thick line between "have this installed or we won't take you" to "have this isntalled so we can remotely control you're connection to the game" |
| 21:03.02 | Antiarc|Work | I tend to agree with TecnoBrat |
| 21:03.03 | Mikk | You noticed my conditionals right? |
| 21:03.11 | tsigo | Antiarc|Work: fixed up your last drycode. want me to commit or are you already working on it? |
| 21:03.17 | TecnoBrat | I also disagree with the fact that someone could make my wow client emote |
| 21:03.17 | NightHawkTheSane | s/you're/your/ |
| 21:03.20 | TecnoBrat | thats the same thing |
| 21:03.23 | Antiarc|Work | tsigo: Commit if you've tested it. I don't have the ability to test right now. |
| 21:03.24 | Mikk | "_ONLY_ from the RL/RA. _ONLY_ if they're in the same instance. _ONLY_ if they're already AFK flagged." |
| 21:03.38 | Mikk | ^ Notice conditionals |
| 21:03.55 | NightHawkTheSane | Mikk: i wouldn't care if it required them to come to my house and type /logout on my computer, i wouldn't agree with it :P |
| 21:03.58 | TecnoBrat | Conditionals or not .. you are still controlling my wow client .. and I just don't like it |
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| 21:04.22 | phyber | asking Blizzard for an option to force someone out of an instance would be better than a logout. |
| 21:04.25 | Kebinusan | I dont see the problem either, but hey I guess some people would rather hold up 24 guildmates while they are afk then allow a raid lead to log him out |
| 21:04.39 | NightHawkTheSane | phyber: agreed |
| 21:04.41 | Mikk | Yups |
| 21:04.56 | Antiarc|Work | If someone goes AFK in one of my raids and becomes a hinderance, they get bumped to the waiting list for future runs |
| 21:04.57 | Antiarc|Work | *shrug* |
| 21:05.03 | Antiarc|Work | It's a pain then, but it's managable through policy. |
| 21:05.13 | Kebinusan | that solves it for future runs, but not for the immediate need |
| 21:05.31 | Mikk | If some guy always goes afk he's not going to be taken to raids obviously |
| 21:05.40 | Gagorian | It's retarded how nerfed the SSC bosses are |
| 21:05.41 | Kebinusan | Ive certainly had it where a tank had to go take a phone call during curator trash and ended up being afk for 20ish minutes holding up the rest of the raid |
| 21:05.44 | Mikk | But like I said earlier.. "we've all had emergencies" |
| 21:06.10 | NightHawkTheSane | There is no immediate need, that's only created by your perception that things need to get done -right now-. Relax and have a little patience. |
| 21:06.59 | Killmore | hahaha |
| 21:07.01 | Jaxon | If you are raiding with one person that is that incourteous or 9 people that are that damn impatient... |
| 21:07.09 | Antiarc|Work | Kebinusan: When that happens, I usually end up evasion tanking something :D |
| 21:07.21 | NightHawkTheSane | Mikk: hey, if thats what you want, go for it :P |
| 21:07.45 | Mikk | Jaxon: Or one person that gets held up by RL crisis and a raid full of people that are soon about to get screwed over by trash respawns .... |
| 21:07.53 | Mikk | ^ More like it |
| 21:07.54 | durcyn | can't stop, internet dragons gonna eat me! |
| 21:07.55 | Kebinusan | exactly mikk |
| 21:08.16 | Mikk | Ahwell.. I've made the same points twice now.. guess it's time I stop :-P |
| 21:08.20 | TecnoBrat | useful or not .. I dont like the idea of someone controlling my wow client. |
| 21:08.44 | NightHawkTheSane | ^^ |
| 21:08.44 | Kebinusan | I dont like someone forcing main tanks down to my client, raid leads shouldnt be able to decide who the main tanks or main assists are for me |
| 21:09.00 | Mikk | You better stop installing addons altogether then tecno =P |
| 21:09.07 | Antiarc|Work | That's a bit different, Kebinusan. |
| 21:09.13 | phyber | having someone pick a main tank and logging a guy out are a bit different. |
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| 21:09.16 | TecnoBrat | thats more than a bit different |
| 21:09.17 | Kebinusan | antiarc a slight exageration but similar :-0 |
| 21:09.25 | Antiarc|Work | Logging someone out takes control of their client away from them. |
| 21:09.27 | TecnoBrat | also, making my wow client talk, or emote. |
| 21:09.31 | TecnoBrat | also .. I dont likeit. |
| 21:09.34 | Gnarfoz | they are afk already |
| 21:09.36 | Antiarc|Work | That is not the case with a MT setting. |
| 21:09.43 | Gnarfoz | what control do they have? they are not there :D |
| 21:09.47 | TecnoBrat | you can hide the MTs if you dont like them |
| 21:09.48 | Kebinusan | Just look at all the people who got up in arms over cartographer broadcasting your position to your guildmates |
| 21:09.51 | Mikk | Antiarc|Work: Only if they're not around to hit cancel. Which they weren't. Cause they were afk already. |
| 21:10.11 | Mikk | Whoups, that's a third time. Sorry :S |
| 21:10.14 | Gnarfoz | heh |
| 21:10.19 | Antiarc|Work | Mikk: Knowing my raid, we'd likely end up logging everyone out who went /afk to pee just because we could :P |
| 21:10.20 | phyber | Gnarfoz: total control. they are making their client do nothing. |
| 21:10.23 | Killmore | they will just make an option like "turn off auto logoff" whatever option |
| 21:10.26 | Antiarc|Work | PEE FASTER. |
| 21:10.29 | jwwpua | doesn't blizz log you out if you afk for a certain length of time? |
| 21:10.30 | Antiarc|Work | LESS POO POO, MORE PEW PEW |
| 21:10.36 | TecnoBrat | ... |
| 21:10.37 | TecnoBrat | lol |
| 21:10.37 | Mikk | jwwpua: Obviously |
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| 21:10.44 | Gnarfoz | phyber: yeah, right... |
| 21:10.50 | jwwpua | ok, so that feature would simply save wasted time IMO |
| 21:10.50 | TecnoBrat | jwwpua, yes, they do |
| 21:10.51 | phyber | ;) |
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| 21:11.05 | jwwpua | no one is taking control of your wow client if you're there doing what you're supposed to be doing |
| 21:11.08 | NightHawkTheSane | jwwpua: it's the difference between saving server resources and having one person take control of another persons client. |
| 21:11.11 | jwwpua | you're getting logged out one way or another |
| 21:11.11 | Killmore | jwwpua: we are impatient, we want a logoff NOW! :P |
| 21:11.16 | jwwpua | why not save your guildies some time? |
| 21:11.36 | durcyn | but... my poor poor conjured items? |
| 21:11.41 | zoktar | hmm anyone know what the s after the cpu thing with preformancefu+cpu profiling means ? |
| 21:11.42 | Gnarfoz | they'll last 15minutes |
| 21:11.44 | Cryect | I think they should add a means to trigger a GPF error to addons! |
| 21:11.45 | Killmore | hahaha |
| 21:11.45 | zoktar | seconds ? =P |
| 21:11.54 | NightHawkTheSane | You know what scares me the most? The way so many of you are just okay with someone else being able to manipulate and control the actions of your character like that. |
| 21:12.03 | Gnarfoz | Cryect: addons have caused #132's before, that shouldn't be hard? ;P |
| 21:12.10 | Gnarfoz | NightHawkTheSane: character? |
| 21:12.12 | Cryect | Gnarfoz: Yeah it wouldn't |
| 21:12.13 | durcyn | NightHawkTheSane: logout() is hardly "/cast disenchant" |
| 21:12.16 | TecnoBrat | NightHawkTheSane, you mean like making my character emote? |
| 21:12.17 | jwwpua | when you say "take control" that's a very general statement |
| 21:12.22 | NightHawkTheSane | durcyn: it's about half a step removed. |
| 21:12.23 | Antiarc|Work | Cryect: Just try to load a texture that is of dimensions that aren't ^2 :) |
| 21:12.27 | Antiarc|Work | Boom, instant GPF. |
| 21:12.35 | Gnarfoz | NightHawkTheSane: it's 5 miles away |
| 21:12.35 | Kemayo_ | Why would we even need forced-logout, anyway? Can't the RL just kick from the raid for similar effect? |
| 21:12.36 | NightHawkTheSane | jwwpua: it's causing my client to do something I did not tell it to do. |
| 21:12.38 | jwwpua | if you're afk, you're not in control of your own client. so with your logic, you dont like the idea of going afk... ? |
| 21:12.38 | phyber | you guys could always make people install Glider with a trigger to make others logout. \o/ |
| 21:12.45 | Mikk | Kemayo_: Not when they're saved |
| 21:12.46 | Antiarc|Work | Kemayo_: Not if that person is locked into the instance. |
| 21:12.48 | Gnarfoz | Kemayo_: saved to the instance = no auto-teleport home |
| 21:12.55 | Cryect | Antiarc|Work: Hmmm, I think I've tried it before didn't cause issues just the texture looks really funky |
| 21:13.03 | durcyn | my head officially hurts from this conversation, btw. |
| 21:13.12 | TecnoBrat | This started by me pointing out that DBM makes it so people can log you out, and make you emote .. etc .. which I felt was not something I wanted to allow someone to do with my wow client. |
| 21:13.20 | durcyn | now, who wants to write a spell resist tracker for violation so i don't have to? |
| 21:13.21 | NightHawkTheSane | jwwpua: as was noted, even afk I'm in control of what my client does, what it's doing just happens to be -nothing- |
| 21:13.30 | Antiarc|Work | Cryect: It's been a while since I did it (Last time was when I was modding Iriel's HUD thingy, IIRC), but yeah, it crashed rather regularly :D |
| 21:13.39 | jwwpua | NightHawkTheSane: if you're afk too long, it logs you out |
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| 21:14.08 | Gnarfoz | if you were actually controlling it to do nothing, you'd simply be a jackass keeping the other people in your group waiting, I guess? :D |
| 21:14.09 | NightHawkTheSane | jwwpua: yes, to save server resources. It's very different than having another player log you out because they feel like it. |
| 21:14.10 | Cryect | Antiarc|Work: Heh, most my personal crashes have been when I was working on my map/model editors and I screw something up in my file saving >_> |
| 21:14.18 | Kemayo_ | Ah, okay. I'm obviously too inexperienced at high-end raiding. |
| 21:14.30 | NightHawkTheSane | Gnarfoz: I'm not disagreeing that you're probably being a jackass by being afk for very long :P |
| 21:14.36 | Gnarfoz | heh |
| 21:14.49 | NightHawkTheSane | I just cannot, under any circumstances, condone taking control of the client away from the player. |
| 21:14.53 | Antiarc|Work | I would mind a "raidvote -> logout" mod a lot less |
| 21:14.58 | Gnarfoz | and I also agree it doesn't have a place main line oRA2 most likely |
| 21:15.01 | TecnoBrat | BTW, I got the "you will be hearthed in 1 min" message in Gruul the other night when someone kicked me .. did they add that back in? |
| 21:15.11 | durcyn | TecnoBrat: were you saved to that ID? |
| 21:15.12 | Kalman| | TecnoBrat: Had you killed anything in Gruul's yet? |
| 21:15.12 | Cryect | If you aren't saved to the instance it will zone you |
| 21:15.15 | jwwpua | NightHawkTheSane: it's not cause they feel like it. it's because you're wasting everyone else's time |
| 21:15.15 | Mikk | Antiarc|Work: Easily doable too |
| 21:15.17 | TecnoBrat | Yes, I was saved. |
| 21:15.24 | Gagorian | nymbia: ping |
| 21:15.25 | Kalman| | That's strange, then. |
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| 21:15.38 | Cryect | They keep changing what they've been doing with it though |
| 21:15.43 | nymbia | Gagorian: hey |
| 21:15.50 | Gagorian | Got a few minutes now? |
| 21:16.01 | nymbia | sure |
| 21:16.07 | Cryect | like I logged in to replace someone the other day and it autohearthed me before my client loaded in and I loaded in well under 60 seconds |
| 21:16.11 | NightHawkTheSane | jwwpua: so? if some guy makes a mistake and causes the raid to wipe, do you forcibly log them out because they're wasting your time? If you need to teach a new guy a fight do you forcibly log them out because they're wasting your time? |
| 21:16.24 | NightHawkTheSane | jwwpua: suck it up and relax, go grab a soda, open a book, whatever :P |
| 21:16.25 | Gnarfoz | make it a plug-in module that is queryable for its presence and don't take people on raids who don't have it, seems like the most logical common ground :) |
| 21:16.37 | Kalman| | Well, I kinda prefer that you get the 1 minute warning if there's a raid group in the zone and you aren't in it, even if you're saved: gives you a way to port DCs and AFKs out without their intervention. |
| 21:16.37 | Mikk | NightHawkTheSane: You're obviously not reading what we've been saying |
| 21:16.48 | NightHawkTheSane | Mikk: i am, but it's all been the same tripe. |
| 21:17.04 | Mikk | The examples you're giving wouldn't be possibe tho |
| 21:17.05 | NightHawkTheSane | "wah wah, we're impatient, we need to control your client" :P |
| 21:17.05 | Mikk | So why are you giving them? |
| 21:17.06 | Gnarfoz | then why do you give examples that don't fit the scenario? :D |
| 21:17.19 | BankZ | Is there any addon that lets you see incoming heals in agUF? That estimate the end health? |
| 21:17.23 | jwwpua | NightHawkTheSane: failing to do something the right way is not the same as choosing to not try at all |
| 21:17.41 | ravagernl | bankz: pitbull is aguf's superior :P |
| 21:18.34 | BankZ | ravagernl: what makes it better? |
| 21:18.54 | Cryect | well one it does what you just asked with the right module |
| 21:18.58 | jwwpua | answer this though.. why would you want to remain logged in afk in your guild's instance when you're not doing anything? if you had to go for whatever reason, there's no point for you to be logged in. not only that, but you're ruining the instance for possibly 24 other people |
| 21:18.58 | Gnarfoz | if the client-side addon ignores the leader's addon's command when the client was not already flagged afk and the player whose addon is sending command doesn't have raid lead |
| 21:19.03 | NightHawkTheSane | jwwpua: 'choosing not to try', do you have people say "hey guys, i dont want to do this boss, so i'm going to go afk for an hour, cool?" Most of the time people don't go afk just to piss you off. |
| 21:19.29 | BankZ | Do most ppl like pitbull better than agUF? |
| 21:19.40 | Cryect | In general, I would say so |
| 21:19.44 | Keias | An optional addition like Forced Log out, is just that |
| 21:19.49 | Keias | Unless you have an asshole raid leader |
| 21:19.56 | Keias | It shouldn't even be an issue if it's there or not |
| 21:19.57 | Cryect | in which case why are you in that raid |
| 21:19.58 | snurre | Antiarc|Work: in response to that ej thread and comments about morogrim/murlocs.. in that fight there is always the same amount of murlocs, so using a fixed value to divide healing threat on could do the trick |
| 21:20.14 | Gnarfoz | Keias: if you make it only obey the command when you're already afk |
| 21:20.21 | Gnarfoz | then even that possibility is gone |
| 21:20.23 | jwwpua | NightHawkTheSane: if someone goes afk, that is a choice. unless someone physically prevents them from playing the game, it's a choice. so whether or not the intention is to piss people off, they are still choosing to afk |
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| 21:20.57 | ravagernl | bankz: various things, including what you wanted, pitbull_estimatedheals |
| 21:20.58 | Cryect | snurre: Or better yet, he could just keep track of how many murlocs should be alive/spawned since fixed amount spawns and can get the death messages easily enough |
| 21:21.04 | BankZ | Is Pitbull a complete UF? Raid, Part, Unit? |
| 21:21.06 | snurre | yeah |
| 21:21.10 | NightHawkTheSane | jwwpua: now you're just being pedantic. I'm going to go on a limb and say very.. VERY.. few people "choose" to go afk with the express intention of inconveniencing the raid. |
| 21:21.12 | snurre | BankZ: yep |
| 21:21.34 | ravagernl | all units are supported |
| 21:21.34 | NightHawkTheSane | Most of the time, people have other things come up that are more important than raiding, and -cannot- get back to say something, or log out, or whatever. |
| 21:21.39 | ravagernl | even main tank and main assist |
| 21:22.00 | jwwpua | NightHawkTheSane: hopefully that's true. but if something important comes up, whatever that may be, the person is still choosing to do something else other than play the game |
| 21:22.00 | Gnarfoz | alt+f4 is SUCH a time consuming key combination :D |
| 21:22.18 | fixtze | i have to go afk at times in raids |
| 21:22.21 | fixtze | because of reallife issues |
| 21:22.25 | ravagernl | bankz: plus the ability to define where text should be and control the font size of the texts is the best feature imo |
| 21:22.39 | jwwpua | NightHawkTheSane: and if that circumstance comes up, and you "-cannot- get back to say something, or log out, or whatever", then why does it bother you to be logged out? |
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| 21:23.01 | Kemayo_ | NightHawkTheSane: In that case, I'd think these people would prefer to not be inconveniencing the raid. I know that I'd be fine with being booted in that case. |
| 21:23.03 | NightHawkTheSane | jwwpua: because, and this is what you don't seem to be able to grasp in that tiny little brain, YOU"RE STILL TAKING CONTROL AWAY FROM THE CLIENT. NOT GOOD. |
| 21:23.20 | Gnarfoz | you're already not able to control your client |
| 21:23.20 | BankZ | ravagernl: I dont see pitbull_estimatedheals on the download site |
| 21:23.28 | Gnarfoz | which is the meaning of "CAN NOT" :D |
| 21:23.48 | Gnarfoz | we're turning in circles here, tho |
| 21:23.49 | Gnarfoz | :D |
| 21:23.52 | jwwpua | NightHawkTheSane: why are you throwing insults?? |
| 21:23.53 | Kalman| | NightHawkTheSane: No, you're not. You're voluntarily giving up control of the client. The difference between the two is immense. |
| 21:24.02 | NightHawkTheSane | oh, for fucks sake, i'll put it real simple, because you goddamn script kiddies don't seem to get it. IT IS NEVER, EVER, ACCEPTABLE TO FORCE A CLIENT TO DO SOMETHING THAT THE CONTROLLER DID NOT PERSONALLY INTIATE. |
| 21:24.03 | Keias | Well normally when someone says they have to AFK, they normally say when they're going to be gone for long |
| 21:24.42 | ravagernl | bankz: if you update with WAU pitbull will be unpacked into modules |
| 21:24.42 | Fisker- | Lets datamine for the phoenix mount! |
| 21:24.42 | ravagernl | estimated heals is included as a module |
| 21:24.42 | NightHawkTheSane | there are no ifs, ands, buts, or maybes |
| 21:24.47 | BankZ | ravagernl:downloading now |
| 21:24.57 | Mikk | It's also never acceptable to throw insults at people. Which you're doing. |
| 21:25.02 | Kebinusan | NightHawkTheSane: Heh, I love you would rather hold up 24 guildmates raiding then let the raid leader log you out of an instance when you are afk |
| 21:25.11 | Mikk | I see you're not as much a man of principles as you'd like to think :> |
| 21:25.12 | NightHawkTheSane | Mikk: it is when you deserve it. |
| 21:25.25 | Kebinusan | Insults are never justified |
| 21:25.35 | Mudkipz | awww |
| 21:25.35 | ravagernl | bankz: it's awesome, eg I dont want an xp bar, I just disable the entire xp module and it's not even loaded |
| 21:25.38 | NightHawkTheSane | Kebinusan: i'd rather hold up an entire server than take control away from a client |
| 21:25.46 | Kebinusan | awfully arrogant |
| 21:25.47 | Gnarfoz | oh, you deserve to be logged out when you afk-block the entire raid, too :p |
| 21:25.51 | Gnarfoz | who draws that line? :p |
| 21:25.52 | NightHawkTheSane | Mikk: i am, but my principles are loose and flexible ;) |
| 21:26.07 | Gnarfoz | then they are not deserving of the title 'principles' o_O |
| 21:26.11 | BankZ | ok, I will give it a try, need to get it configured before tonights raid |
| 21:26.16 | Antiarc|Work | Heh, this sounds like a political argument :D |
| 21:26.21 | durcyn | man, i need a drink after reading the past 50 lines |
| 21:26.24 | durcyn | maybe two. |
| 21:26.30 | Mudkipz | sounds like its hugs time now!! |
| 21:26.31 | Keias | pretty much antriarc |
| 21:26.34 | NightHawkTheSane | Antiarc|Work: all arguments are political ;) |
| 21:26.36 | Keias | Antiarc* even |
| 21:26.40 | Mikk | I need a shower tbh =P |
| 21:26.58 | ravagernl | If someone is going afk for a very long time and it was not decided to be acceptable, *gkick* |
| 21:27.00 | Gnarfoz | http://www.knitemare.org/cats/hugstime.jpg ? |
| 21:27.00 | hyperChipmunk | who wants a whackin' |
| 21:27.08 | NightHawkTheSane | Two truths of an argument: You will never change the opposing side's point of view, and each side knows for a fact that they are correct. |
| 21:27.13 | Mudkipz | Gnarfoz, I agree |
| 21:27.24 | ravagernl | gg |
| 21:27.34 | Mikk | ravagernl: So you'll kick your guildie who had a RL emergency. And he'll still be in the instance. Where's the gain? =P |
| 21:27.54 | Crache\__ | if the logout feature were to only work while you were afk, and you specifically set 2 individuals in the raid capable of initiating it, i'd figure that's very much acceptable and consented |
| 21:28.19 | ravagernl | if you have rl isseus, you shouldnt be raiding at that moment |
| 21:28.24 | jwwpua | NightHawkTheSane: many people argue when they know that they are wrong. they dont want to "lose" |
| 21:28.24 | Crache\__ | but i think the times it would be used would be rare, and a client timeout would probably come before people made the decision |
| 21:28.37 | phyber | ravagernl: sure, because RL issues are planned and could never happen mid raid. |
| 21:28.39 | Mikk | ravagernl: the definition of "emergency" includes "didn't know it was coming" :-P |
| 21:28.39 | shieldb | Crache\__, do they both get keys and secret codes to enter from the opposite sides of the lady vash console? |
| 21:28.51 | jwwpua | NightHawkTheSane: and open-minded people will sometimes change their opinion on things |
| 21:28.51 | Crache\__ | no, you simply target then and add tem |
| 21:29.00 | phyber | I TOTALLY planned to set fire to my neighbours apartment and delay my Molten Core raid last year. |
| 21:29.07 | Tem | do what? |
| 21:29.08 | NightHawkTheSane | jwwpua: if you're open to changing your opinion, you're not really arguing |
| 21:29.12 | Crache\__ | i mean, i didn't think this thing up, so i don't care |
| 21:29.28 | Crache\__ | but i figure it would be easy to use and wouldn't require a shitload of instructions |
| 21:29.42 | Crache\__ | i've never seen a situation where it would be needed |
| 21:29.48 | Mikk | raid more =P |
| 21:29.49 | Gnarfoz | lol nice ninja-hilight there |
| 21:29.52 | [Liquidor] | Best thing about people having instan RL Emergencies is when they actually inform the raid about it during the emergency. Like this guy some time ago whos kitchen was on fire and he had to go, although he was telling the raid about it first "SORRY GUYS I HAVE TO GO NO, MY KITCHEN IS ON FIRE... I*M REALLY SORRY AND I DONT HOPE I GET KICKED" |
| 21:29.54 | Kalman| | phyber: Shouldn't have let his dog bark all night, eh? |
| 21:29.54 | jwwpua | NightHawkTheSane: that's far from the truth |
| 21:29.55 | Crache\__ | but i guess some people think they have seen situations like that and think it's worth it to come up with the feature |
| 21:30.02 | phyber | Kalman|: damn right ;) |
| 21:30.21 | [Liquidor] | "I hope I don't" * |
| 21:30.22 | phyber | Kalman|: actually, it was some tard who put toast in the toaster and then went for a shower. set the toaster and half the kitchen on fire :p |
| 21:31.40 | shieldb | Gnarfoz, at least your irc client doesn't ping you every time people are discussing shieldblock mechanics ;) |
| 21:31.52 | ravagernl | It is usually the same people that have "issues" and you forget that people have an ability called lying |
| 21:31.57 | Gnarfoz | shieldb: heh |
| 21:32.12 | Gnarfoz | could make it not catch on partials in words, tho ;) |
| 21:32.39 | shieldb | true enough |
| 21:32.43 | Mikk | ravagernl: oh, those people are easily dealt with with a gkick. noone's disagreeing wiht that :-P |
| 21:32.55 | Kemayo | NightHawkTheSane: I'd think that installing the mod is explicitly giving consent to being disconnected by your RL when you're afk. (Which is why it would be nice if it wasn't incorporated into ORA2 core, certainly.) |
| 21:33.02 | ravagernl | I should have made myself more clear :P |
| 21:33.40 | CIA-22 | 03skyboat * r37721 10Buffalo2_Dreamlayout/Dreamlayout.lua: |
| 21:33.40 | CIA-22 | Buffalo2_Dreamlayout: |
| 21:33.40 | CIA-22 | - Changed default y-padding. |
| 21:33.40 | CIA-22 | - Fixed debuff coloring. |
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| 21:33.48 | NightHawkTheSane | Kemayo: that, i'll agree with. If you, of your own volition (not 'install it or don't raid') install the mod, then yeah, that's implicit permission. |
| 21:33.49 | ravagernl | WOOT |
| 21:33.59 | shieldb | usually if people in our raids need to emergency afk they log out or alt-f4, or enough people yell at them on vent to do that |
| 21:34.34 | Kebinusan | sure that covers most cases, the point is thats not always possible |
| 21:34.43 | Kebinusan | or doesnt happen for w/e reason |
| 21:34.59 | Kebinusan | having an option to kick people from your raid instance is something that is needed |
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| 21:35.30 | CIA-22 | 03tsigo * r37722 10Omen/Omen.lua: Omen: DB fixup. |
| 21:35.40 | NightHawkTheSane | Kebinusan: agreed, the ability for RL/RA to remove people from an instance is sorely needed, and would solve all of these problems |
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| 21:35.58 | shieldb | Would have ruined all the instance cascading fun back in the day, though ;) |
| 21:36.04 | ravagernl | You know people can always turn it off |
| 21:36.14 | ravagernl | that's what I like so much about ora2 |
| 21:36.18 | Kebinusan | I miss being able to start my instance timer |
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| 21:36.21 | Kebinusan | on any day |
| 21:36.24 | Tuyk | Anyone know an addon that lets you change the strata level of the minimap? |
| 21:36.32 | Fisker- | NightHawkTheSane nah |
| 21:36.32 | ravagernl | I dont want my raidleader to know if I have enough reagents :P |
| 21:36.40 | Fisker- | Blizzard should just port people when not being in groups |
| 21:36.46 | ravagernl | tuyk: simpleminimap |
| 21:36.51 | Fisker- | Protect logout, remove players from instance upon getting kicked |
| 21:36.55 | Tuyk | ravagernl: thanks |
| 21:37.01 | NightHawkTheSane | Fisker-: that's more or less the same thing. :P |
| 21:37.25 | Fisker- | Well there should be no "Log a player off" |
| 21:37.32 | Fisker- | it does accomplish the same which is my point |
| 21:37.35 | Kebinusan | but oh no a raid leader kicked me from the raid and forced my hearthstone cooldown and removed me fromt he instance :-) |
| 21:37.44 | Crache\__ | simply having the feature pass leader over to a raid assist would probably be fine |
| 21:37.44 | Kebinusan | totally unacceptable |
| 21:38.00 | Kebinusan | Crache\__: assists can move groups now thankfully |
| 21:38.00 | Crache\__ | and then the raid assist can either kick them or wait for them to come back |
| 21:38.02 | shieldb | Kebinusan, how is that less acceptable then having the same thing happen in a 5man like it does already? |
| 21:38.10 | NightHawkTheSane | Kebinusan: on that regard, i don't agree with forced-ports burning HS cooldown, but :\ |
| 21:38.16 | Crache\__ | or i guess an RA can't kick an RL |
| 21:38.26 | hypetech | anybody notice better FPS while using Grid as opposed to sRF? |
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| 21:38.27 | Crache\__ | but if it's possible to script the RL giving the RA RL, then all good |
| 21:38.29 | NightHawkTheSane | Fisker-: ahh, yeah. |
| 21:38.47 | Fisker- | Doesn't matter if players can kick eachother imo |
| 21:38.53 | NightHawkTheSane | Fisker-: i meant more or less the same as my suggestion of allowing rl/ra to remove you from an instance. which is basically teh same as kick->port |
| 21:39.03 | Fisker- | As i already said earlier if people are having these problems the players can get themselves another guild |
| 21:39.23 | Fisker- | btw |
| 21:39.27 | Fisker- | lets datamine the phoenix |
| 21:39.43 | Fisker- | We should be able to get it from the armory |
| 21:40.36 | deltron | lol |
| 21:43.41 | hypetech | what type of alerts does gridalert show? |
| 21:43.50 | dodgizzla | all kind of |
| 21:44.08 | Fisker- | show? |
| 21:44.15 | Fisker- | It's audible confirmation bitch! |
| 21:44.16 | Fisker- | :P |
| 21:44.16 | FrostByghte | Spamsentry seems to think everything is spam...what I have done wrong? :) |
| 21:44.18 | dodgizzla | you can set it up to bug you when you gain aggro or if you need to dispel/decurse or if theres something else going on, e.g. somebody being the bomb! |
| 21:44.26 | FrostByghte | basically I don't get any whisper's with spamsentry installed |
| 21:44.34 | hypetech | ah |
| 21:44.34 | hypetech | nice |
| 21:44.35 | Gnarfoz | Fisker-: go, mine! (how?) |
| 21:44.36 | Necrathex | spamsentry is not needed anymore tbh |
| 21:44.43 | dodgizzla | hypetech: yeah but it's a bit buggy |
| 21:44.47 | Fisker- | using sophisticated technology Gnarfoz |
| 21:44.51 | FrostByghte | ya I heard about the lawsuit and changes made |
| 21:44.53 | Fisker- | unfortunately i have none at my disposal |
| 21:44.56 | Gnarfoz | [Mining Pick] |
| 21:44.59 | FrostByghte | I'll just uninstall it for now and see how it goes |
| 21:45.16 | Gnarfoz | Fisker-: does that technology exist? :D mining item tooltips from the armory? |
| 21:45.19 | NightHawkTheSane | I don't trust blizzards built in spam filter :P |
| 21:45.23 | Necrathex | FrostByghte: i uninstalled it since 2.1 and haven't got a single whisper or mail with spam since |
| 21:45.26 | Fisker- | i know someone has some simple crap script just running for 1 to 99999 ?i=x |
| 21:45.30 | Necrathex | and i got like 50 a day before ;p |
| 21:45.30 | Fisker- | or something like that |
| 21:45.35 | Fisker- | Gnarfoz of course |
| 21:45.39 | Fisker- | http://armory.worldofwarcraft.com/item-tooltip.xml?i=30020 |
| 21:45.55 | FrostByghte | Necrathex: sounds good then...ya...I uh..haven't had any whispers at all and didn't realize it was a problem until just now :) |
| 21:46.30 | Gnarfoz | Fisker-: so... how's that hard, then? |
| 21:46.45 | shieldb | I still get the spam all the time, but now half of it is in /say or /yell in cities when I'm there |
| 21:47.03 | Fisker- | Gnarfoz well i have no software capable of doing it :P |
| 21:47.06 | Fisker- | Should almost make some though |
| 21:47.18 | Gnarfoz | Fisker-: batch file + wget? :D |
| 21:47.19 | Fisker- | but i really never played with http requesting in C# |
| 21:47.34 | Fisker- | good idea |
| 21:47.42 | Fisker- | batches do actually support for loops if i'm right? |
| 21:47.52 | Gnarfoz | yes |
| 21:47.53 | Necrathex | or use perl, ruby, python |
| 21:47.58 | Mikk | gawk! |
| 21:48.04 | Gnarfoz | or shell script or wsh, even LUA |
| 21:48.06 | hypetech | does grid have some sort of test mode where I can see the placement of everything before being in a raid? |
| 21:48.06 | Gnarfoz | whatever! :D |
| 21:48.15 | Necrathex | i'd suggest using prolog :p |
| 21:48.22 | Mikk | ~lart Necrathex |
| 21:48.22 | purl | whips out a shotgun, trudges over to Necrathex, and goes postal |
| 21:48.28 | Necrathex | :'( |
| 21:48.30 | Gnarfoz | Necrathex: no, lolcode. |
| 21:48.35 | Fisker- | anyone got a bash script from counting from 1 to 99999 |
| 21:48.41 | Fisker- | and assigning a variable |
| 21:48.50 | Fisker- | it's easier to do on my server :P |
| 21:48.53 | Gnarfoz | Fisker-: google? :p |
| 21:48.57 | Gnarfoz | i'd run that on mine, too ;D |
| 21:49.01 | Fisker- | but i know >< that much about linux |
| 21:49.35 | hyperChipmunk | for i in `seq 1 99999`; do echo $i; done |
| 21:49.45 | phyber | for i in `seq 1 99999`; do echo $i; done |
| 21:49.48 | Gnarfoz | heh |
| 21:49.55 | Mikk | lol. i never noticed before... nelf chix have cameltoes |
| 21:50.14 | hyperChipmunk | dude, i wasn't even looking at the screen |
| 21:50.16 | Gnarfoz | proof? |
| 21:50.30 | hyperChipmunk | it was almost scrolled off before i began typing |
| 21:50.30 | Fisker- | http://www.developersdevelopersdevelopers.dk/armoryhaxing/ |
| 21:50.31 | Fisker- | ;D |
| 21:50.44 | Fisker- | i'm so gonna grep this when it's done |
| 21:50.47 | hyperChipmunk | O_o |
| 21:50.52 | Gnarfoz | Fisker-: you were faster than I :< |
| 21:51.03 | Fisker- | or G-RAPE if you know what i mean |
| 21:51.11 | Gnarfoz | Fisker-: stop |
| 21:51.15 | Fisker- | should start around 20k though |
| 21:51.18 | Fisker- | to be honest |
| 21:51.23 | Chompers | is that 09 f9 the new copy protection key Fisker? |
| 21:51.25 | Gnarfoz | make wget send firefox as user agent, or else you'll be getting quite a lot of tables |
| 21:51.27 | Chompers | it sounds familiar |
| 21:51.32 | Fisker- | it's the original one found |
| 21:51.43 | Fisker- | http://www.developersdevelopersdevelopers.dk/armoryhaxing/item-tooltip.xml%3fi=35 <-you call this a lot? |
| 21:51.53 | Gnarfoz | it'll add up? :p |
| 21:52.08 | Fisker- | HTTP request sent, awaiting response... |
| 21:52.11 | Fisker- | zzz |
| 21:52.41 | NeoTron | so about to start SSC |
| 21:52.51 | NeoTron | should we do: Hydross, Morogrim or Lurker below first? |
| 21:52.59 | Fisker- | lurker should be harder now i heard |
| 21:53.00 | shieldb | morogrim |
| 21:53.04 | shieldb | lurker is really easy |
| 21:53.09 | Fisker- | but if you don't got the resist gear for hydross either lurker or morgrim |
| 21:53.13 | shieldb | just don't do him before morogrim or you risk TRAGEDY |
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| 21:53.24 | NeoTron | I think the two MT's will have 295 or pretty darn close |
| 21:53.34 | NeoTron | not sure what is needed for the OT's |
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| 21:54.37 | Fisker- | any way i can speed this wget up? :P |
| 21:54.51 | NeoTron | is morogrim something you want to do without a paladin tank? |
| 21:54.58 | shieldb | NeoTron, http://elitistjerks.com/showpost.php?p=357464&postcount=83 |
| 21:55.04 | shieldb | we just use a holy pally |
| 21:55.06 | nevcairiel | NeoTron: nah its not funny without one :P |
| 21:55.25 | shieldb | prot pallies are pretty worthless atm, imo :( |
| 21:55.53 | nevcairiel | we use a holy pally with a minimum prot spec ( imp aggro seal thingy ) |
| 21:55.57 | nevcairiel | in def gear |
| 21:56.18 | shieldb | they're better then holy pallies in only a handfull of situations and much less useful the majority of the time then a holy pally |
| 21:56.29 | NeoTron | ok |
| 21:56.33 | shieldb | and a holy pally can usually just swap some gear and do the same job without too much trouble |
| 21:57.22 | Fisker- | omg |
| 21:57.33 | Mikk | Gnarfoz: http://mikk.cjb.net/fun/nelf-cameltoe.jpg |
| 21:57.36 | Fisker- | at the current rate it'll take 22 hours to mine from 1-40000 |
| 21:58.07 | Fisker- | might as well skip the obvious part then |
| 21:58.42 | Gnarfoz | how do I concatenate a var to a string in bash script? |
| 21:58.55 | hyperChipmunk | foo$i |
| 21:58.59 | Gnarfoz | easy. |
| 21:59.00 | Gnarfoz | :D |
| 21:59.01 | Chompers | i'm suprised that picture isnt from 4chan Mikk |
| 21:59.24 | Chompers | ...or is there a whole set of continuing pictures on 4chan :O |
| 21:59.50 | Mudkipz | nya~ |
| 21:59.55 | Mudkipz | so i heard |
| 22:00.53 | nevcairiel | ~framexml |
| 22:00.57 | purl | get the official Blizzard Interface AddOn Kit here: http://www.blizzard.com/support/wow/?id=aww01671p or view it online at http://wdn.wowinterface.com/ |
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| 22:09.54 | Herio | hmm |
| 22:09.56 | Caiman | http://ace.pastey.net/45981 <-- grid error when trying to reset profile |
| 22:10.15 | Herio | why do some addons cache the RAID_CLASS_COLORS locally? |
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| 22:13.17 | hyperChipmunk | Antiarc|Work: who is Unknown and how is he out-agroing me? |
| 22:13.37 | Fisker- | It's Unknown Force from D2 hyperChipmunk |
| 22:13.38 | Antiarc|Work | hyperChipmunk: Probably your pet |
| 22:13.42 | Fisker- | and he's doing INSANE damage |
| 22:13.46 | Makerer | Hey guys, you know with blizzards ui you can change so the experience bar is showed as faction standing, is there anyway of changing the faction it's tracking with an addon? |
| 22:13.48 | Fisker- | hence the out-aggro |
| 22:13.57 | Fisker- | yup Makerer |
| 22:13.58 | hyperChipmunk | no, he's there, too; it's someone else |
| 22:14.06 | hyperChipmunk | Herio: if they're used often, faster to access local table |
| 22:14.07 | Caiman | and then i'm getting also this error after the grid reset one http://ace.pastey.net/45984 |
| 22:14.09 | Makerer | can you give me some guidelines? :) |
| 22:14.28 | hyperChipmunk | read wowwiki.com |
| 22:14.34 | Antiarc|Work | hyperChipmunk: Might be a problem with parser |
| 22:14.50 | Fisker- | if i knew anything about it then yes :P |
| 22:14.52 | Makerer | yeah i've searched there but don't seem to find what i'm looking for |
| 22:14.58 | Herio | hyperchipmunk: so this would be faster then pulling them from another source, eg babble-class, even? |
| 22:15.00 | hyperChipmunk | might be a problem with YOU'RE AN IDIOT |
| 22:15.06 | Fisker- | But you could always just change it through the blizzard ui |
| 22:15.39 | Makerer | yes i know that |
| 22:16.55 | Fisker- | anyone know if violation does SW_Stats syncing yet? |
| 22:17.21 | Makerer | Found it now :) |
| 22:17.45 | hyperChipmunk | Herio: yes |
| 22:17.53 | Herio | sigh |
| 22:18.03 | hyperChipmunk | because that's basically the same thing |
| 22:18.10 | Herio | who ever made ClassColors clearly never tested it =P |
| 22:18.29 | Herio | just looking at it, it wouldn't work with any such addon |
| 22:18.34 | Mikk | Fisker-: That is not likely to ever happen |
| 22:18.50 | Mikk | Fisker-: SWstats' data sync is closely tied to its timelining |
| 22:19.34 | sbu | hmm is resistance cap still 315? |
| 22:19.41 | sbu | or increaed with lvl 70? |
| 22:19.42 | Mikk | no |
| 22:19.47 | Mikk | yes |
| 22:19.52 | nevcairiel | changing RAID_CLAS_COLORS taints a big part of the UI and is not recommended :P |
| 22:19.53 | Herio | spell level * 5 |
| 22:19.56 | nevcairiel | sbu: lvl * 5 |
| 22:20.06 | nevcairiel | sbu: 365 for lvl 73/boss |
| 22:20.10 | sbu | thanks |
| 22:20.11 | Herio | nevcairiel: I have not run into any issues :O |
| 22:20.23 | Mikk | nevcairiel: I'm not even sure it actually taints |
| 22:20.34 | nevcairiel | ever tried moving people around in your raid when in combat? |
| 22:20.36 | Mikk | nevcairiel: since all you're doing is modifying data, not causing own code to be executed... ? |
| 22:20.45 | nevcairiel | changing data taints too |
| 22:20.53 | nymbia | it taints that variable |
| 22:20.56 | nevcairiel | its a secure variable |
| 22:21.00 | nevcairiel | ANY change to it |
| 22:21.01 | nymbia | which taints any code paths that use it |
| 22:21.02 | nevcairiel | taints it |
| 22:21.10 | Fisker- | alright Mikk :( |
| 22:21.14 | Mikk | oho, i didn't realize it was that good :> |
| 22:21.22 | Herio | pretty lame |
| 22:21.32 | Herio | cause deep blue sears the eys |
| 22:21.34 | Herio | *eyes |
| 22:21.48 | nevcairiel | just dont take shamans. |
| 22:21.51 | nevcairiel | :) |
| 22:22.02 | Herio | WRATH OF WTFPWN |
| 22:22.06 | Herio | I never get the shaman anyway |
| 22:22.10 | Herio | or a shadow priest =x |
| 22:22.14 | Herio | tank group ftl |
| 22:22.29 | nevcairiel | our resto shaman sucks, and our melee shaman .. well .. melee shamans arent that good in raids anyway :P |
| 22:22.34 | nevcairiel | only make the rogues happy |
| 22:22.46 | Herio | we have an elemental shaman |
| 22:23.04 | Mikk | i think you're underestimating the added damage that that enh shaman is bringing |
| 22:23.14 | Mikk | they're boosting rogues by lolwtf numbers while doing "ok" damage themselves |
| 22:23.19 | Herio | I have a friend that plays enchancement, haven't really done any PvE with him be we lolArena in the 2v2 it's pretty fun |
| 22:23.27 | Herio | ret pally imo |
| 22:23.34 | Herio | ultimate support class |
| 22:23.39 | Fisker- | FOUND IT |
| 22:23.43 | Gnarfoz | Fisker-: damn you |
| 22:23.50 | Herio | esp if you have a pally tank in your raid |
| 22:23.51 | Fisker- | WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO |
| 22:23.52 | Fisker- | http://armory.worldofwarcraft.com//item-tooltip.xml?i=32458 |
| 22:24.06 | Fisker- | drops from al'ar |
| 22:24.10 | Gnarfoz | obviously. |
| 22:24.12 | nevcairiel | so? |
| 22:24.17 | nevcairiel | everyone knew that this thing existed |
| 22:24.21 | Fisker- | of course |
| 22:24.21 | nevcairiel | a blue even confirmed |
| 22:24.27 | Fisker- | but noone knew how it existed and why |
| 22:24.28 | Gnarfoz | now we know the entire tooltip :p |
| 22:24.31 | Fisker- | we know now |
| 22:24.33 | Arrowmaster | we use our enchance shaman to keep the rogues from being the first ones to pull aggro and die |
| 22:24.52 | nevcairiel | our rogues never pull aggro off the tank |
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| 22:24.56 | Mikk | That's what BoSalv is for |
| 22:25.07 | Arrowmaster | nether do ours usually |
| 22:25.17 | Arrowmaster | except with bloodlust |
| 22:25.18 | nevcairiel | before that happens, any shadow priest pulls aggro, or the huntards again |
| 22:25.39 | Gnarfoz | heh Fisker- |
| 22:25.43 | Gnarfoz | it needs 300 riding skill ;D |
| 22:25.55 | Fisker- | of course |
| 22:25.56 | nevcairiel | its a epic mount, of course it does |
| 22:25.57 | Fisker- | but i still win |
| 22:26.19 | Arrowmaster | its a flying mount |
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| 22:26.25 | Herio | usually how agro works for us is warlock pulls agro, all warlocks soul shatter, all mages die |
| 22:26.34 | Herio | rofl |
| 22:26.36 | NeoTron | Herio: whee |
| 22:26.39 | Gnarfoz | Fisker-: I was only 787 itemid's away :< |
| 22:26.43 | Mikk | mages die? |
| 22:26.43 | nevcairiel | i found it quite funny that you dont need any fire resist for al'ar afterfall .. what did i collect that 101 heroic badges in my bank now? |
| 22:26.51 | Mikk | mages to feckall damage these days :S |
| 22:26.55 | Fisker- | harr Gnarfoz |
| 22:27.02 | sbu | hydross tank here? do you need 365? |
| 22:27.05 | sbu | (resistance) |
| 22:27.09 | Herio | yeah, they can't drop below 10% below the tank so he can get agro back rofl |
| 22:27.14 | Gnarfoz | nevcairiel: pick up a crafting profession and go nuts on stuff that needs primal nethers? :p |
| 22:27.26 | nevcairiel | our tanks have around 290 without auras @ sbu |
| 22:27.43 | Herio | nevcairiel: primal nethers |
| 22:27.43 | nevcairiel | so 360 with aura |
| 22:27.43 | NeoTron | nevcairiel: I suspect I'll be required to get FR for SSC and also respec into retard lock spec |
| 22:27.43 | nevcairiel | I am alchemist ffs |
| 22:27.43 | NeoTron | woot |
| 22:27.55 | nevcairiel | no need for any primal nether |
| 22:27.57 | Herio | nevcairiel: alch sucks, drop it for engie lol |
| 22:28.08 | nevcairiel | i love my alchemist stone tho |
| 22:28.11 | nevcairiel | best trinket eva |
| 22:28.16 | sbu | nevcairiel: and off-tanks? |
| 22:28.17 | Gnarfoz | quality 4 =? |
| 22:28.19 | Gnarfoz | epic? |
| 22:28.20 | Herio | our druid tank was a black smith with the hand of eternity pattern |
| 22:28.26 | Herio | she had a wait list for nethers |
| 22:28.30 | Herio | over 300 badges |
| 22:28.32 | nevcairiel | Gnarfoz: http://www.thottbot.com/i13503 |
| 22:28.33 | Fisker- | i think so Gnarfoz |
| 22:28.33 | sbu | nevcairiel: which guild anyways? ;) |
| 22:28.43 | Herio | when the patch come out it got flushed pretty fast |
| 22:28.55 | Necrathex | 0 grey, 1 white, 2 green, 4 blue, 4 purple |
| 22:28.57 | NeoTron | oh nice |
| 22:28.58 | Mikk | nevcairiel: aye the +40% mana from pots equals lolwtf amounts of mp5 |
| 22:29.03 | Necrathex | *3 blue |
| 22:29.29 | NeoTron | to prevent thrall and jaina to get killing blows after the raid wipes they nerfed their hp signifcantly |
| 22:29.37 | NeoTron | instead making you more likely to fail due to them dying (temporarily but still) |
| 22:29.39 | nevcairiel | sbu: off tanks wear like a bit of everything :P |
| 22:29.48 | nevcairiel | sbu: Viribus Unitis @ Antonidas-EU |
| 22:29.53 | sbu | so... 100? :p |
| 22:29.55 | Gnarfoz | I still wonder how no item db has yet datamined the armory this way for a complete set of data |
| 22:29.57 | sbu | +totem/aura |
| 22:30.03 | harldephin | oh no. i still see jumping and flying creatures oO |
| 22:30.35 | nevcairiel | yeah about 100-150 |
| 22:30.41 | nevcairiel | cant nail that exactly now :p |
| 22:30.46 | sbu | hehe |
| 22:31.05 | nevcairiel | we even did it with full def |
| 22:31.07 | nevcairiel | once |
| 22:31.07 | sbu | i guess you dont have any armory links showing that gear? :p no idea where to get 290 resistance :/ |
| 22:31.11 | nevcairiel | works pretty good too |
| 22:31.13 | nevcairiel | (on OT) |
| 22:31.17 | sbu | its ~170 from crafted epics |
| 22:31.17 | kenlyric|home | gARRRR pt3 I hate thee! |
| 22:31.28 | LordRhys | Hi can someone assist me with minor Tooltip reading problem? Getting Usage: WarriorAlertFuTooltip:SetOwner(frame) error, my code is at http://ace.pastey.net/45996 |
| 22:31.35 | nevcairiel | hm no not really |
| 22:31.50 | NeoTron | anyone have their netherwing mount yet? |
| 22:31.51 | nevcairiel | they obviously logout in normal gear |
| 22:32.27 | kenlyric|home | can it be so that no one else experiences problems with pt3, or does nobody run standalone? |
| 22:32.30 | Arrowmaster | NeoTron: i do |
| 22:32.46 | NeoTron | I envy the gatherers getting all the "free" rep there |
| 22:32.50 | Antiarc|Work | Heh. |
| 22:32.56 | NeoTron | I'm 2.5k into revered or so |
| 22:32.58 | nymbia | Arrowmaster: cheats!! |
| 22:32.58 | Arrowmaster | the eggs? |
| 22:33.06 | nymbia | kenlyric|home: what problems? |
| 22:33.09 | nevcairiel | well the crafted epics, some rings and other minor stuff, should get you to 280-290 |
| 22:33.11 | Arrowmaster | /flex |
| 22:33.14 | NeoTron | I've gotten maybe 10-12 eggs |
| 22:33.23 | NeoTron | and started a day or two late |
| 22:33.27 | NeoTron | still won't be too long |
| 22:33.31 | ravagernl | lmao |
| 22:33.33 | NeoTron | soon I'll be able to sleep at night :) |
| 22:33.38 | Arrowmaster | the day i got exalted i got most of my eggs from mining, the day before most from ground spawns |
| 22:33.40 | ravagernl | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dwqjYIMh6bs meoooowww XD |
| 22:33.54 | NeoTron | I've seen a total of one ground spawn (not just looted, but seen) |
| 22:33.58 | Arrowmaster | NeoTron: theres like 8 egg spawns over at dragonmaw fortress |
| 22:34.05 | kenlyric|home | they you'll have a mount that soon everyone will have... woohoo? |
| 22:34.10 | Arrowmaster | most people dont know about those ones |
| 22:34.13 | NeoTron | wait what? outside the ledge? |
| 22:34.17 | Arrowmaster | yes |
| 22:34.33 | NeoTron | cool I'll check it out |
| 22:34.33 | kenlyric|home | yeah, dragonmaw is dead. |
| 22:34.51 | Arrowmaster | 4 of them are inside the towers, 1 is in a cart, the rest are inside the buildings at the top |
| 22:35.01 | hypetech | what are the "auras" in grid? |
| 22:35.17 | kenlyric|home | nymbia: by default, bag, container, misc, questmats, reagents are the only categories that show up by default. |
| 22:35.23 | Arrowmaster | by towers i mean the little covered areas of the wall like stuff |
| 22:36.14 | kenlyric|home | the others are all LoD, but none of the mods i've used, baggins or bulkmail2, loads those. |
| 22:36.14 | nevcairiel | sbu: http://elitistjerks.com/showthread.php?t=10448 did you see that ? :) anyway, you should make sure they stay at 490 defense, and max out resi with that. |
| 22:36.14 | nymbia | kenlyric|home: they get loaded as they're requested |
| 22:36.15 | NeoTron | well I'll go hunting tomorrow |
| 22:36.15 | kenlyric|home | nymbia: then these mods aren't requresting them. |
| 22:36.23 | kenlyric|home | so, death to them then! |
| 22:36.24 | nymbia | probably not |
| 22:36.37 | kenlyric|home | it's so strange that half of them are LoD |
| 22:36.40 | nymbia | why do they need to be loaded if nothin needs 'em? |
| 22:36.46 | nymbia | they're all lod |
| 22:36.48 | kenlyric|home | something needs them |
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| 22:36.54 | kenlyric|home | this mod needs them :) |
| 22:37.13 | nymbia | which one? |
| 22:37.31 | Antiarc|Work | Who owns Babble-Spell? |
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| 22:37.53 | kenlyric|home | no, Consumable, Gear, Gearset, Instanceloot, InstanceLootHeroic, Reputation, Tradeskill, TradeskillResultMats are the only LoD categories. |
| 22:38.00 | Antiarc|Work | Reason being, for the french translation, ["Thunderfury"] = "Lame-tonnerre" |
| 22:38.02 | kenlyric|home | the five I named earlier are not LoD |
| 22:38.07 | [Ammo] | Antiarc|Work: add it |
| 22:38.12 | Antiarc|Work | Aight |
| 22:38.14 | hyperChipmunk | huh what about bm2? |
| 22:38.26 | kenlyric|home | nymbia: the two I've used which let you choose PT3 categories is bulkmail2 and baggins. |
| 22:38.41 | kenlyric|home | hyperChipmunk: doesn't play nicely with standalone pt3. |
| 22:38.42 | hyperChipmunk | i'm a crummy addon author, i'm willing to take suggestions |
| 22:38.53 | hyperChipmunk | then by all means, fix it or tell me how |
| 22:38.57 | kenlyric|home | doesn't load any of the load on demand pt3 modules |
| 22:38.58 | [Ammo] | Antiarc|Work: all threat errors were gone btw in raid after I updated to most recent |
| 22:39.01 | hyperChipmunk | not my fault i'm a moron =\ |
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| 22:39.06 | [Ammo] | using violation as a display mechanism but shrug |
| 22:39.07 | kenlyric|home | it's not just you :) |
| 22:39.08 | nymbia | kenlyric|home: that's true, they're in the misc category and so they can't be loaded on demand (no common name) |
| 22:39.09 | Antiarc|Work | [Ammo] Fantastic. |
| 22:39.11 | kenlyric|home | I just wonder why half of it is LoD |
| 22:39.19 | kenlyric|home | ah, ok. |
| 22:39.19 | [Ammo] | don't matter what display mechanism I use :) |
| 22:39.20 | voln | hey Ammo |
| 22:39.22 | hyperChipmunk | well i just steal other people's code |
| 22:39.23 | voln | Necronomicon2 |
| 22:39.29 | voln | what exactly does it all do? |
| 22:39.32 | [Ammo] | not much |
| 22:39.34 | hyperChipmunk | but if there's a way to do it better, i'd like to know |
| 22:39.35 | voln | i am trying to find a replacement for bloated necrosis |
| 22:39.37 | [Ammo] | just gives you a few buttons you can click |
| 22:39.38 | kenlyric|home | hyperChipmunk: did you steal baggins code? because it doesn't work either :) |
| 22:39.42 | [Ammo] | which half half work |
| 22:39.43 | voln | pet summon buttons |
| 22:39.43 | voln | ? |
| 22:39.44 | nymbia | kenlyric|home: the set selection menu is where you're needing it? |
| 22:39.44 | kenlyric|home | I need to find another mod that uses pt3 |
| 22:39.46 | [Ammo] | but they do exactly what I need |
| 22:39.48 | [Ammo] | no pet summon buttons |
| 22:39.49 | hyperChipmunk | kenlyric|home: yep! |
| 22:39.51 | [Ammo] | I use 1 pet exactly :p |
| 22:39.54 | [Ammo] | my imp |
| 22:39.57 | hyperChipmunk | some of it, at least |
| 22:39.58 | voln | same here for the most part |
| 22:40.12 | [Ammo] | it's very very basic |
| 22:40.15 | hyperChipmunk | i started out stealing it, but i'm pretty sure there's nothing left of it |
| 22:40.17 | [Ammo] | but it works for me |
| 22:40.19 | hyperChipmunk | more pt3browser |
| 22:40.35 | hyperChipmunk | but even that, not so much |
| 22:40.43 | nymbia | kenlyric|home: i added some code to that to make it load all the modules, but it turned out that it generates its listing when you first load in |
| 22:40.45 | voln | dont want you to explain it all, but could you give me an example of a button or two that it gives you? |
| 22:41.15 | kenlyric|home | the solutions are simple, move all the folders into pt3 folder, just have to remember every time it updates. |
| 22:41.21 | [Ammo] | fel/demon armor button (left/rightclick) |
| 22:41.28 | [Ammo] | soulshardcounter |
| 22:41.34 | voln | ah nice |
| 22:41.38 | [Ammo] | soulstone button, summon button |
| 22:41.39 | Arrowmaster | you still cast demon armor? |
| 22:41.41 | voln | summon button? |
| 22:41.42 | voln | oh hell yeah |
| 22:41.45 | hyperChipmunk | ah |
| 22:41.47 | [Ammo] | Arrowmaster: I do when dewiping and running back |
| 22:41.48 | kenlyric|home | oh, btw hyperChipmunk, I <3 bm2 :) |
| 22:41.50 | voln | this might be great then |
| 22:41.52 | CIA-22 | 03antiarc * r37723 10Babble-2.2/Babble-Spell-2.2/Babble-Spell-2.2.lua: Babble-2.2: Added frFR translation for Thunderfury |
| 22:41.52 | [Ammo] | Arrowmaster: 15 hp/5 ;) |
| 22:41.55 | nymbia | kenlyric|home: WAU has that .nounpack hax, if that's what you're using |
| 22:41.55 | hyperChipmunk | i did that with pt2 |
| 22:41.59 | hyperChipmunk | i took it out with pt3 =P |
| 22:42.04 | hyperChipmunk | >8D |
| 22:42.06 | [Ammo] | voln: don't expect too much and you might not be disapoointed :p |
| 22:42.08 | voln | I use lylock and necrosis now for different things, would be nice to get rid of one or both of them |
| 22:42.16 | LordRhys | Can someone give me a bit of help on a USage error with tooltip:SetOwner(frame), my code is at http://ace.pastey.net/45996 |
| 22:42.16 | voln | alright |
| 22:42.25 | [Ammo] | I don't use much of it myself anymore |
| 22:42.28 | [Ammo] | apart from the message triggers |
| 22:42.34 | Antiarc|Work | Oh damn, it just occurred to me that I don't think I had babble in UTF-8 |
| 22:42.46 | [Ammo] | oh dear |
| 22:42.50 | [Ammo] | onslaught! |
| 22:42.51 | Antiarc|Work | One sec, I'll revert it. |
| 22:42.52 | [Ammo] | anyway, time for bed |
| 22:43.08 | hyperChipmunk | what do you mean by 'remember every time it updates'? |
| 22:43.21 | [Liquidor] | How do I create an option with restricted arguments available? I mean like a select ? Or where do I read more about the options part of slash commands with Ace2? |
| 22:43.30 | kenlyric|home | every time pt3 updates, it recreates those folders. |
| 22:43.35 | hyperChipmunk | validate with table? |
| 22:43.58 | [Liquidor] | So you can't specifiy like 3 available options? |
| 22:44.05 | hyperChipmunk | yea |
| 22:44.12 | Antiarc|Work | Oh, it seems ok. |
| 22:44.14 | hyperChipmunk | i think that's what validate with table is |
| 22:44.19 | [Liquidor] | but ehm |
| 22:44.21 | hyperChipmunk | you give it 3 options in a table |
| 22:44.31 | hyperChipmunk | those are the ones you can choose |
| 22:44.41 | hyperChipmunk | no? |
| 22:44.45 | [Liquidor] | I'm confused, this is my first Ace2 addon btw. |
| 22:44.57 | [Liquidor] | Well yeah that could do |
| 22:45.02 | hyperChipmunk | you can give the validate field a table or a function |
| 22:45.27 | hyperChipmunk | i believe (though i could be totally wrong) that if you give it a table, then it uses those values as the allowed choices |
| 22:45.38 | Antiarc|Work | hyperChipmunk is correct |
| 22:46.00 | [Liquidor] | But what is the name of the function? I mean... get = .. ? |
| 22:46.05 | [Liquidor] | or? |
| 22:46.08 | hyperChipmunk | oh, |
| 22:46.10 | hyperChipmunk | validate |
| 22:46.34 | [Liquidor] | validate = MyTableWithOptions I assume then? |
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| 22:47.19 | Antiarc|Work | Yeah, believe so |
| 22:47.20 | hyperChipmunk | http://wowace.com/wiki/AceOptions_data_table#text |
| 22:47.40 | [Liquidor] | Thanks, didn't know where to look for the API |
| 22:47.42 | LordRhys | Liquidor: set = function(option) self.db.char.countDisplayStyle = option end, |
| 22:47.43 | LordRhys | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:48.02 | hyperChipmunk | [Liquidor]: oh, well, there's your problem =P |
| 22:48.08 | hyperChipmunk | learn to <3 teh wiki |
| 22:48.24 | kenlyric|home | what do pearls fall under, in pt3? |
| 22:48.42 | ravagernl | just look at Ace2 : wowace.com/wiki/Ace2 |
| 22:48.53 | kenlyric|home | guess I can just pick recipe mats of some kind, jewelcrafting or something. |
| 22:48.57 | Makerer | Isn't it possible to copy my "player" settings to "player target" settings i pitbull? I don't know if i'm stirring myself blind or something |
| 22:49.43 | kenlyric|home | oh, bytype, nvm |
| 22:49.59 | hyperChipmunk | kenlyric|home: are you suggesting i just do one external and yank the entire pt3 directory? |
| 22:50.10 | hyperChipmunk | dataminer and all? |
| 22:51.10 | hyperChipmunk | that's the only way i can see to get the .toc, which is what i assume is the important thing |
| 22:52.20 | kenlyric|home | there's got to be some way it works with embeds. |
| 22:52.27 | kenlyric|home | it can't be that monkey. |
| 22:52.59 | kenlyric|home | oddly enough, it seems quite capable of sending based on PT set even when those PT sets aren't loaded. |
| 22:53.18 | kenlyric|home | I just can't create the rules through the menus |
| 22:54.25 | LordRhys | anyone know where I can get a good example of scanning tooltip of actionbar slots? |
| 22:54.49 | hyperChipmunk | i'm not familiar at all with lods and stuff |
| 22:55.00 | kenlyric|home | me either, I'm just a noob user :) |
| 22:55.31 | [Liquidor] | Where do I read about creating a FuBar plugin for my addon? |
| 22:55.34 | hyperChipmunk | well, find someone who can tell me how to do it right |
| 22:55.39 | [Liquidor] | Or a tablet part for that matter? |
| 22:55.43 | hyperChipmunk | [Liquidor]: same place |
| 22:55.49 | kenlyric|home | mendellev seems to use pt3. |
| 22:55.58 | hyperChipmunk | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:56.00 | Antiarc|Work | Can anyone think of encounters where a boss has a raid-wide aggro wipe, but there are adds whose aggro is not wiped? |
| 22:56.02 | [Liquidor] | Ye well is there a tutorial or should I just read the API? |
| 22:56.07 | hyperChipmunk | http://wowace.com/wiki/FuBarPlugin-2.0 |
| 22:56.23 | Antiarc|Work | Nightbane doesn't count because adds spawn after he wipes aggro |
| 22:56.31 | Gnarfoz | blergh |
| 22:57.49 | kenlyric|home | Antiarc|Work: curator? |
| 22:58.01 | Antiarc|Work | Curator wipes threat? |
| 22:58.02 | kenlyric|home | he sorta stops moving when he drops aggro. |
| 22:58.05 | kenlyric|home | completely. |
| 22:58.10 | kenlyric|home | every time he evocates |
| 22:58.21 | Gnarfoz | trying to strip a directory full of files of their first part of each files' name... they end in [0-9]+, I want to keep that part as the new name... any clues? I don't seem to get very far with xargs, mv, sed and find ;\ |
| 22:58.22 | Antiarc|Work | ...you sure? How can a tank hold aggro against that? |
| 22:58.28 | kenlyric|home | then he builds threat while evocating, and locks it when he's done. |
| 22:58.40 | [Liquidor] | Do I have to create all the functions again for FuBar or is it possible for FuBar to run the functions of my addon? |
| 22:58.48 | NightHawkTheSane | ... i don't think curator works that way. o_0 |
| 22:58.54 | Keias | Curator wipes threat? |
| 22:58.59 | Antiarc|Work | I don't think Curator works that way either. |
| 22:59.02 | Keias | I always took the bolts as a lock by reguarlly DPSing him |
| 22:59.03 | hyperChipmunk | [Liquidor]: certainly not |
| 22:59.09 | kenlyric|home | for his bolts. |
| 22:59.10 | Antiarc|Work | It'd be impossible for a warrior to hold threat on him if he worked that way |
| 22:59.10 | Keias | ANd never pulled aggro with 30k CoD |
| 22:59.30 | kenlyric|home | he works that way for his bolts, not for his primary target. |
| 22:59.45 | Antiarc|Work | I thought bolts were HP-based. |
| 22:59.52 | Keias | HP + Threat |
| 22:59.57 | Keias | 2nd on threat with most HP |
| 23:00.00 | kenlyric|home | and that threat list is reset at evocakes. |
| 23:00.02 | Keias | or so I always thought |
| 23:00.04 | Tuyk | highest HP who isn't at top of agro |
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| 23:00.17 | [Liquidor] | hyperChipmunk, I appreciate your help even tho my exp is very low about this matter, but... which argument of "or" did you answer to? |
| 23:00.26 | hyperChipmunk | oh =) |
| 23:00.29 | hyperChipmunk | the non-absurd one |
| 23:00.32 | Antiarc|Work | I'm not really worried about bolt aggro |
| 23:00.47 | [Liquidor] | =) |
| 23:00.55 | Keias | I was just using that as an example if not pulling curator himself at Evo's |
| 23:00.58 | hyperChipmunk | you embed that library |
| 23:01.01 | Keias | of* even |
| 23:01.02 | hyperChipmunk | and use its methods |
| 23:01.14 | hyperChipmunk | it's all under the same namespace |
| 23:01.15 | [Liquidor] | And just call my global funcs? |
| 23:01.27 | [Liquidor] | or wait |
| 23:01.59 | hyperChipmunk | say i made a fubar plugin for bulkmail |
| 23:02.02 | kenlyric|home | I'm not sure I precisely understand how bolt aggro works, since our tank tends to take them after the third evocate. So it's possible it changed after ptr. |
| 23:02.16 | kenlyric|home | no more /bm as edit? |
| 23:02.16 | [Liquidor] | Wish FuBar just could read my options table and create its own tooltip -.- |
| 23:02.23 | hyperChipmunk | i want it to open up the edit box |
| 23:02.33 | hyperChipmunk | [Liquidor]: oh, that's even easier |
| 23:02.49 | Keias | I haven't raided post 2.1, so I dunno if there was any changes to him after PTR |
| 23:02.54 | hyperChipmunk | it was designed exactly to do that |
| 23:03.00 | [Liquidor] | Uhm |
| 23:03.21 | [Liquidor] | So the easy part is only for the experienced ones. Now that's un-fair !! |
| 23:03.44 | kenlyric|home | heh, curator hateful bolt mechanics are like onxyia deep breath mechanics. Everyone has a theory :) |
| 23:04.25 | [Liquidor] | Wouldn't mind looking at the event scripting of Ony. Been curious to know how she "works" for years now. |
| 23:04.48 | kenlyric|home | she deep breaths more if you let a healer start the raid. |
| 23:04.56 | [Liquidor] | Haha |
| 23:04.57 | hyperChipmunk | hehe |
| 23:04.58 | [Liquidor] | Good one |
| 23:05.16 | hyperChipmunk | [Liquidor]: if you look at most ace addons, that's how it's done |
| 23:05.27 | hyperChipmunk | so there's plenty of material to steal |
| 23:05.28 | [Liquidor] | Like the old legend about Epic valued items dropping differently depending on who started the raid to Molten Core |
| 23:05.31 | kenlyric|home | we used to have a contest to come up with excuses when a DB wiped us. |
| 23:05.44 | Antiarc|Work | [Liquidor]: Curiously, Onyixa is one of the least-understood encounters in the game, threatwise. |
| 23:06.09 | Antiarc|Work | KTM says that her fireballs reduce threat on the target that they hit, but I'm not sure what was ever validated. |
| 23:06.40 | NightHawkTheSane | there's no possible way to test that, is there? |
| 23:06.48 | Fisker- | I remember wiping on her when we were still in BWL |
| 23:06.49 | [Liquidor] | Well the fireball is rather random so kinda has to either go for threat reduction or the raid table in that case |
| 23:07.09 | kenlyric|home | lol, wowwiki is completely wrong about curator. |
| 23:07.21 | kenlyric|home | he Curator occasionally targets the second person on his aggro list with an arcane bolt |
| 23:07.32 | kenlyric|home | if that were true, it would never hit the tank. |
| 23:07.32 | [Liquidor] | hyperChipmunk, No tut around? |
| 23:07.39 | hyperChipmunk | none necessary |
| 23:07.47 | Antiarc|Work | kenlyric|home: I've been smacked by Bolts as a rogue before the first evoc, and I don't touch Curator until the evocs |
| 23:07.50 | break19-truckin | kenlyric|home: how can you get never out of occassionally? lol |
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| 23:08.09 | hyperChipmunk | once you mixin FubarPlugin-2.0, all you have to do is YourAddon.OnMenuRequest = optionTable |
| 23:08.13 | kenlyric|home | break19: they mean that he doesn't constantly fire them. |
| 23:08.24 | break19 | you sure? :) |
| 23:08.26 | [Liquidor] | Is that all for the default tooltip? |
| 23:08.27 | kenlyric|home | occasional describes the frequency, not the target locatoin. |
| 23:08.35 | hyperChipmunk | http://svn.wowace.com/wowace/trunk/MrPlow/MrPlow.lua is a great simple example |
| 23:08.38 | kenlyric|home | yes, I am. If they mean that, they need to say that. |
| 23:08.46 | break19 | thats how I read it |
| 23:09.09 | kenlyric|home | it's not secondary threat, it's "prime threat list", which is some magic set of people :) |
| 23:09.21 | Codayus | Curator confuses me. I've had people I trust swear that they've run tests and it's purely threat based. Other people say it's got a HP component (but I think they may be confused by Patchwerk). It's odd. |
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| 23:09.33 | Antiarc|Work | I've never been hit by a bolt at low HP, FWIW |
| 23:09.43 | Codayus | My theory is "he hits random people, deal with it". :-) |
| 23:09.49 | hyperChipmunk | [Liquidor]: around line 400 is where the good stuff is |
| 23:10.15 | hyperChipmunk | wobin: speaking of mrplow.lua, you have both the first and second sections titled exactly the same |
| 23:10.21 | hyperChipmunk | -- Section II: AddOn Information. -- |
| 23:10.22 | [Liquidor] | Are you the author of MrPlow? |
| 23:10.28 | hyperChipmunk | wobin is |
| 23:10.35 | hyperChipmunk | he's simpleminded |
| 23:10.40 | Arrowmaster | Antiarc|Work: one of the things i noticed on onyxia was that she seemed to do a threat wipe when she started moving in the air, but theres no way for a mod to detect that |
| 23:10.44 | hyperChipmunk | so you need not be afraid |
| 23:11.03 | hyperChipmunk | he's incapable of doing anything that would confuse even a retarded kid |
| 23:11.23 | Keias | I had an old guildmate suggest to tank her in the whelp pits so the warriors had rage to get aggro for phase 3 |
| 23:11.29 | Keias | It was a huge running joke for likea year :( |
| 23:11.38 | Antiarc|Work | She does some kind of threat modification in the phase 1->2 transition, but the details are still relatively unknown |
| 23:12.20 | Fisker- | who would wanna know anyways? :( |
| 23:12.28 | Arrowmaster | i would never pull aggro when going all out if i stoped doing damage in phase 2 between the last move and the landing |
| 23:12.40 | [Liquidor] | Keias, We usually cleared the whelp pits during phase 1. Then we had a hideout for breaths. and we could just nuke ahead when those pits were cleared. Noone tanking, just a huge mess and the ppl who died... well they were to be laughed at :) |
| 23:12.52 | Keias | lol |
| 23:13.01 | Keias | Thats what always made Ony a blast :D |
| 23:13.33 | NeoTron | [Liquidor]: eggs didn't respawn? |
| 23:13.35 | kenlyric|home | I thought those caves respawned... |
| 23:13.35 | [Liquidor] | She does wipe aggro in the phase 2->3 transition tho |
| 23:13.41 | [Liquidor] | NeoTron, no why would they? |
| 23:13.43 | Arrowmaster | no she doesnt |
| 23:13.51 | NeoTron | eggs typically do? :P |
| 23:13.53 | [Liquidor] | Sure about that Arrowmaster? |
| 23:13.56 | Arrowmaster | yeah |
| 23:14.04 | [Liquidor] | Cause dots from phase 2 usually brings huge aggro. |
| 23:14.13 | kenlyric|home | if you've enver seen her fly straight a warlock, then you wouldn't know that :) |
| 23:14.20 | [Liquidor] | Even if you placed just 1 dot at the end of the phase |
| 23:14.50 | Arrowmaster | from all the healers ive seen her kill that did nothing during the transition i know she doesnt |
| 23:14.52 | kenlyric|home | threat is funky :) |
| 23:15.05 | Arrowmaster | i swear she wipes threat when she moves in the air |
| 23:15.15 | kenlyric|home | why would healers have aggro while she's landing? |
| 23:15.20 | [Liquidor] | We've done so many weird things with Onyxia. Remember tanking her south instead of north. |
| 23:15.35 | [Liquidor] | Hell a lot of fun |
| 23:15.38 | nymbia | ? |
| 23:15.45 | kenlyric|home | I spent most of phase 2 wanding, very little aggro creation. |
| 23:15.47 | nymbia | oops |
| 23:15.50 | Fisker- | nymbia i'm a dataminer like you! |
| 23:15.55 | nymbia | odang |
| 23:15.57 | kenlyric|home | unless I was in a whelp group. |
| 23:16.27 | Arrowmaster | i would nuke the shit out of ony until about 45% then when she moved in the air i would stop |
| 23:16.28 | [Liquidor] | You sure eggs repsawn? Never noticed |
| 23:16.31 | Fisker- | http://armory.worldofwarcraft.com//item-tooltip.xml?i=32458 <-see i'm doing it right |
| 23:16.35 | [Liquidor] | On a timer or a phase transition? |
| 23:16.49 | [Liquidor] | Cause if it takes you 20min to kill her then I understand |
| 23:17.02 | [Liquidor] | But if you go all out ... well 10 min top. |
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| 23:19.18 | nymbia | Fisker-: cheats! |
| 23:19.21 | [Liquidor] | Do I need Tablet for a FuBar module? |
| 23:19.29 | nymbia | [Liquidor]: no |
| 23:19.31 | Mikk | Yes |
| 23:19.37 | hyperChipmunk | lol |
| 23:19.37 | nymbia | no ;) |
| 23:19.50 | hyperChipmunk | i think fubar pulls it in, itself |
| 23:20.11 | Mikk | Well yeah but TabletLib needs to exist _somewhere_ =P |
| 23:20.15 | Mikk | ^ That's my "Yes" |
| 23:20.16 | nymbia | Mikk: i think it's .blizzardTooltip or something |
| 23:20.28 | art3mis | ony fights take longer than 6minutes? |
| 23:20.31 | art3mis | since when |
| 23:20.53 | nymbia | Mikk: plugins can avoid using tablet altogether now |
| 23:20.55 | Mikk | art3mis: since when you run her with half and third-size raids to get more lewtz? =P |
| 23:21.21 | art3mis | laugh we do it standard 10man in under 8mins ;P |
| 23:21.34 | Mikk | oh, at 70 |
| 23:21.35 | Mikk | kk =) |
| 23:21.41 | [Liquidor] | Talking Pre-TBC tho :) |
| 23:21.48 | [Liquidor] | I ain't killing her anymore |
| 23:21.54 | art3mis | pre tbc we had her fdown to 7mins for a full 40 |
| 23:21.58 | Mikk | Bah, I can't say I've even clocked her |
| 23:21.59 | art3mis | best was 5:43 |
| 23:22.11 | art3mis | deadly records start and stop times |
| 23:22.13 | Mikk | But yeah 20 mins sounds .. erm.. long =) |
| 23:22.13 | break19 | i cant say I've even fought her :p |
| 23:22.18 | rjp | has anyone had an issue since the patch where agUF party frames don't show up.... at all? |
| 23:22.37 | hyperChipmunk | dude, 20 mins are those kills you get when all the sane people have gone to bed |
| 23:22.38 | art3mis | rj update yer libs/ie isntall with embedded |
| 23:22.55 | hyperChipmunk | and you're down to half your original raid |
| 23:23.05 | [Liquidor] | hyperChipmunk, or when you go Wipe Club style (The guild with the yelling leader) at my realm :) |
| 23:23.11 | rjp | art3mis, it's installed with embedded libs (pulled from SVN) and up to date |
| 23:23.15 | [Liquidor] | GO TO THE CENTER... DONT STAND TOGETHER !! |
| 23:23.15 | hyperChipmunk | and you just plunk it out all-star style |
| 23:23.30 | art3mis | disabel em logout reload login enable |
| 23:23.56 | hyperChipmunk | beat'r down with sheer force of will and desire to sleep |
| 23:23.59 | art3mis | there was a wierd loading bug if you switched from none embed to embedded, only ever happened once and its all better now ;P |
| 23:24.26 | art3mis | shadowpriests: can we go all out? raidleader: sure |
| 23:24.29 | break19 | pitbull > aguf :) |
| 23:24.35 | art3mis | we carry 4 shadow and 1 healer ;P |
| 23:24.35 | rjp | art3mis, you mean hide party frames, log out, quit wow, start it again, and then show them again? i'm a bit confused |
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| 23:24.43 | art3mis | yes exactly that |
| 23:25.15 | [Liquidor] | hyperChipmunk, it works ! Great thanks. Now I don't have to do all of the testing by console |
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| 23:25.26 | art3mis | the logout prolly isnt needed but thats how i fixed it ;P |
| 23:25.27 | Chompers | any recomendations for an alliance player to level from 20 to 30 ? |
| 23:25.54 | art3mis | roll horde and then when you get to 20-30 go to tarren mill ;P |
| 23:25.58 | break19 | darkshire |
| 23:27.38 | kenlyric|home | tarren mill is an awful place to level. needs more quests. |
| 23:27.39 | NightHawkTheSane | darkshire and wetlands are both good |
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| 23:27.52 | NightHawkTheSane | TM has plenty of quests, it needs less 12 year old alliance |
| 23:30.05 | kenlyric|home | alliance in TM? wut? |
| 23:30.13 | kenlyric|home | I remember that in 2005... |
| 23:30.27 | kenlyric|home | I miss TM/Southshore pvp :/ |
| 23:30.43 | [Liquidor] | If I want to modify the tooltip FuBar creates for my options table I need to use the Tablet module? |
| 23:31.59 | kergoth | tm/southshore pvp was awesome. that and the epic battles for XR |
| 23:32.32 | [Liquidor] | Imo the battles at IB (AV) was great as well. |
| 23:32.44 | [Liquidor] | Massive slaughter ongoing for hours, noone getting anywhere. |
| 23:32.57 | kergoth | hehe |
| 23:33.01 | CIA-22 | 03archarodim * r37724 10Decursive/ (9 files): |
| 23:33.02 | CIA-22 | Decursive: |
| 23:33.02 | CIA-22 | - Mages will now cast polymorph rank one instead of the highest rank (uses less mana and last less time). |
| 23:33.02 | CIA-22 | - "Cast success" messages now include the spell rank. |
| 23:33.49 | rjp | art3mis, believe it or not, they were apparently just moved offscreen |
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| 23:35.31 | sbu | nevcairiel: meh - its impossible to reach 290 AND 490 defense :o |
| 23:37.19 | Tem | huh? |
| 23:37.26 | Tem | why would a mage cast low rank polymorph? |
| 23:37.36 | CIA-22 | 03Tristan * r37725 10ShammySpy/ (Frames.lua Init.lua ShammySpy.lua): |
| 23:37.36 | CIA-22 | ShammySpy: |
| 23:37.36 | CIA-22 | - Moved some height/width settings to a centralized place |
| 23:37.42 | Tem | am I missing something or is that really as stupid as it sounds to me |
| 23:38.43 | sbu | hmmm |
| 23:39.11 | aen` | in baggins, what is the tooltip string to filter nature res stuff? |
| 23:39.25 | aen` | nm |
| 23:39.29 | aen` | NATURE_RESIST works |
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| 23:44.41 | NimbleRabit | Hey guys, I know this isn't exactly the best place to ask but some people here have expressed interest in other games before so I'm asking: If me and my girlfriend (a very casual gamer) wanted to delve into a new mmorpg what are our best choices? |
| 23:45.59 | NightHawkTheSane | that really depends on what you're looking for in an mmog. |
| 23:47.28 | [Liquidor] | NimbleRabit, Counter-Strike |
| 23:47.55 | NimbleRabit | NightHawkTheSane: something easy to get into that doesn't require huge amounts of time commitment, but has the option available |
| 23:47.57 | NimbleRabit | basically WoW lol |
| 23:48.11 | NightHawkTheSane | NimbleRabit: in that case, might i suggest WoW? ;) |
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| 23:48.29 | NimbleRabit | My girlfriend doesn't want to play WoW because she feels like it won't be fun with me being an expert |
| 23:48.34 | NimbleRabit | she wants us to start together |
| 23:48.53 | Keias | MMO market is pretty bad atm :/ |
| 23:49.03 | Keias | So you'll have a tough time finding anything remotely decent to start |
| 23:50.42 | sbu | Antiarc|Sleeps: Threat-1.0-37712 (Threat-1.0):543: attempt to index field 'partyMemberLocales' (a nil value) |
| 23:51.04 | NightHawkTheSane | NimbleRabit: well, depending on what you want, GuildWars or DDO might be fun. Those have more or less the same genre/style as wow. |
| 23:51.14 | NimbleRabit | what is DDO |
| 23:51.21 | NightHawkTheSane | Dungeons and Dragons Online |
| 23:51.43 | NimbleRabit | hmm I'll look into it |
| 23:51.47 | NimbleRabit | I played guildwars I didn't like it |
| 23:52.14 | Keias | GuildWars is definately more casual friendly |
| 23:52.22 | Keias | DDO didn't give me many options, but then again I didn't play much past beta |
| 23:52.37 | Keias | Lots of slower paced fights and pretty much only PVE situations |
| 23:53.04 | Keias | Problem with most MMOs for more casual players, is that they're all HUGE timesinks. |
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| 23:53.15 | NightHawkTheSane | all mmogs are all time sinks. |
| 23:53.17 | Keias | The thing WoW got right, is that the timesink happens AFTER you hit max level :P |
| 23:53.25 | jwwpua | is Pitbull fairly new? |
| 23:53.26 | Keias | While most others, the timesink is leveling |
| 23:53.34 | NightHawkTheSane | jwwpua: month or two old, i think? |
| 23:53.36 | Keias | jwwpua, a couple months old now? |
| 23:53.46 | jwwpua | never heard of it until today in here |
| 23:53.50 | jwwpua | about to try it out |
| 23:54.00 | jwwpua | similar to ag_uf right? |
| 23:54.03 | NightHawkTheSane | Keias: saying wow does that right and others do it wrong is 100% opinion. Some people may like leveling, and making that a major part of the game is appealing to them. |
| 23:54.04 | NimbleRabit | very |
| 23:54.06 | Keias | In looks, it can be |
| 23:54.22 | CIA-22 | 03antiarc * r37726 10Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0/ (5 files in 3 dirs): |
| 23:54.22 | CIA-22 | Threat-1.0: |
| 23:54.22 | CIA-22 | - Added raidwide threat wipe command. Must be executed by officer. |
| 23:54.22 | CIA-22 | - Changed a number of functions in Threat-1.0.lua to follow internal naming conventions. |
| 23:54.22 | CIA-22 | - Added API function to multiply raid threat by a set multiplier. For use mostly by the NPC core. |
| 23:54.22 | CIA-22 | - Worked more on the NPC core |
| 23:54.24 | CIA-22 | - Added Attumen module, needs testing (not active at the moment) |
| 23:54.35 | NimbleRabit | Man I would just rather play WoW lol |
| 23:54.38 | NightHawkTheSane | jwwpua: its more efficient and a bit more featureful than aguf. |
| 23:54.46 | Keias | I just meant they put their timesinks in the opposite parts of the game as other MMOs |
| 23:54.58 | Keias | Don't forget Pitbull is also modular ;) |
| 23:55.16 | ag` | NightHawkTheSane: better design perhaps, but it does use more memory and cpu |
| 23:55.18 | NightHawkTheSane | Keias: well, you made the explicit "thing wow got right" statement, which is subjective ;) |
| 23:55.22 | sbu | Antiarc|Sleeps: did you see my error? :) |
| 23:55.26 | jwwpua | maybe it's the frames i saw in a vid that i liked. does it have the smooth bar "sliding" effect? |
| 23:55.32 | NightHawkTheSane | ag`: fair enough, my apologies :) I use neither, so.. |
| 23:56.03 | ag` | well I guess it depends on what you enable, it is modular :) |
| 23:56.22 | NimbleRabit | pitbull has some fairly terrible modules that seem to eat a lot of resources |
| 23:56.29 | NimbleRabit | NightHawkTheSane: what do you use? perl? |
| 23:56.57 | NightHawkTheSane | NimbleRabit: yeah, pcuf. |
| 23:57.20 | NeoTron | omg I use xpuf! |
| 23:57.21 | kergoth | which pitbull modules are most resource intensive? |
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| 23:57.46 | jwwpua | are the modules only available through the WAU? |
| 23:58.22 | NightHawkTheSane | all of its modules are bundled, so anywhere you can get pitbull you get its modules too, obivously |
| 23:58.31 | NightHawkTheSane | s/iv/vi/ |
| 23:59.48 | jwwpua | wft |
| 23:59.53 | sbu | Antiarc|Sleeps? :) |
| 23:59.53 | jwwpua | s/ft/tf/ |
| 23:59.59 | jwwpua | nifty |
| 23:59.59 | NimbleRabit | I think I'll check out a game called Shadowbane, it's free lol |
