| 00:00.15 | sbu | i have 2 clients with different locales, willing to test :p |
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| 00:01.48 | ag` | NimbleRabit: it's pretty hardcore and stone cold pvp, if you're used to carebear wow it will make you quit in 30 mins |
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| 00:02.17 | NimbleRabit | ag`: just because I play WoW doesn't meen I hate pvp lol |
| 00:02.27 | ag` | total player freedom... Man, wow feels like rollercoaster ride :( |
| 00:03.08 | dotted | sounds like eve |
| 00:04.37 | ag` | the engine is pretty dated though |
| 00:04.44 | ag` | so that will deter most people too |
| 00:08.27 | aen` | its too late to get started in shadowbane |
| 00:08.32 | aen` | most guilds will just roll you in 5 mins |
| 00:08.41 | aen` | and everyone like 50 boxes |
| 00:10.36 | ag` | I'd like shadowbanes concept with the engine of wow |
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| 00:13.42 | vhaarr | ag`: give more agUF commits |
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| 00:19.16 | CIA-22 | 03rophy * r37727 10SimpleUnitFrames/ (PartyFrame.lua SimpleUnitFrames.toc): |
| 00:19.16 | CIA-22 | SimpleUnitFrames: |
| 00:19.16 | CIA-22 | - PartyFrame: Hides Blizzard HP/MP Text. |
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| 00:19.27 | sbu | Antiarc? :) |
| 00:20.20 | CIA-22 | 03cryect * r37728 10Recount/ (6 files in 2 dirs): Recount - Adds a reset button to the main window |
| 00:26.36 | NeoTron | ag`: ironic since WoW's engine honestly is rather dated too, and to a degree was dated upon release |
| 00:26.40 | NeoTron | the bane of an MMO.. |
| 00:27.39 | Keias | hard to keep up with the time it takes to develope an MMO |
| 00:32.22 | sbu | Threat-1.0\Threat-1.0\ThreatClassModuleCore.lua:474: attempt to call method 'ClearThreat' (a nil value) |
| 00:34.21 | Ironhand | can anyone recommend an addon to move the frame that displays error messages such as "You have no target", which is normally near the top of the screen? |
| 00:34.41 | Ironhand | currently using MoveIt for this, but its configuration is cumbersome and it doesn't share settings between chars |
| 00:36.50 | hyperChipmunk | actually, wow solved that problem quite nicely, i thin |
| 00:36.51 | hyperChipmunk | k |
| 00:37.21 | Ironhand | how? |
| 00:37.24 | hyperChipmunk | the highly-stylized graphics make it largely immune to that sort of thing |
| 00:37.38 | Ironhand | oh, sorry thought you were replying to me |
| 00:37.51 | hyperChipmunk | no, to NeoTron |
| 00:38.07 | Antiarc | sbu: Sorry, have my head buried in code :) |
| 00:38.08 | Antiarc | What's up? |
| 00:38.15 | Antiarc | Oh, ok, thanks |
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| 00:38.45 | sbu | hehe |
| 00:38.49 | sbu | yeah those 2 errors |
| 00:38.53 | sbu | Threat-1.0\Threat-1.0\ThreatClassModuleCore.lua:474: attempt to call method 'ClearThreat' (a nil value) |
| 00:38.53 | sbu | and |
| 00:38.58 | sbu | Threat-1.0-37712 (Threat-1.0):543: attempt to index field 'partyMemberLocales' (a nil value) |
| 00:39.13 | sbu | i guess the 2nd one prevents syncing? (2 clients w/ differenc locale) |
| 00:39.43 | Antiarc | No, it should do mob name translations |
| 00:40.10 | Antiarc | So if you're on different locales it shares local mob names between locales so you can match mob name hashes |
| 00:40.41 | sbu | hmm - it doesnt sync anything |
| 00:40.49 | sbu | no heal aggro, no target aggro |
| 00:44.41 | Antiarc | Heh, yeah, it's broken ATM ;) |
| 00:44.53 | Antiarc | Gimme a bit to test and fix it |
| 00:45.24 | sbu | if you need me to test soemthing, just tell me |
| 00:45.31 | sbu | errr want |
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| 00:46.38 | ultimate- | up anyone here :) |
| 00:46.41 | ultimate- | need a lil help |
| 00:47.38 | CIA-22 | 03zuno * r37729 10UnitActionBars/ (App.lua cfgdlg/Actions.lua): |
| 00:47.38 | CIA-22 | UnitActionBars: |
| 00:47.39 | CIA-22 | - Fixed an issue with using "Default" effects and properly initializing the setup dialog. |
| 00:48.30 | CIA-22 | 03zuno * r37730 10UnitActionBars/UnitActionBars.toc: |
| 00:48.30 | CIA-22 | UnitActionBars: |
| 00:48.30 | CIA-22 | - Revision update |
| 00:50.17 | Ordog | the story: a strager came by, waving his hands he was saying that he needs help with something. Some where watching him, slightly interested in what he would come up with, but he just stood there. Interest dropped and he was forgotten |
| 00:50.32 | Chompers | :p |
| 00:51.25 | Ordog | happens aaaaaall the time, i tell you! |
| 00:51.27 | Ordog | ^^ |
| 00:54.45 | Ironhand | does the current KCI2 have any way of keeping track of the number of times an item was encountered in AH during scans? (to give an idea of how meaningful the price est. is) |
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| 00:56.04 | Ordog | hm im tempted to rewrite that in proper english and with a little more drama in it to create some site where the so called wise guys can redirect people to that fell for a well known mistake in asking questions (including a link to "how to ask questions the smart way" ofc) |
| 00:57.29 | Ordog | would that be time wasted? i guess so ... |
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| 00:57.41 | Galka | [2007/05/30 20:56:06-893-x2]: Threat-1.0\Threat-1.0\ThreatClassModuleCore.lua:474: attempt to call method 'ClearThreat' (a nil value) |
| 00:57.49 | Galka | Getting that error on latest Threat |
| 00:58.07 | Ordog | was i wasting time writing this in the first place? i am pretty certain |
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| 00:58.52 | Kinkx | Tuller_ - Are you here? :o |
| 00:59.00 | Tuller_ | Kinkx: yes |
| 00:59.08 | anenigma | Ordog: http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html <-- Is that what you wanted to write? |
| 00:59.23 | Ordog | is answering my own questions the first step to insanity? i fear yes |
| 00:59.43 | Kinkx | Does Bongos update the range slower now? I mean, the time it takes for buttons to light up to show you're within range etc. |
| 00:59.59 | Ordog | anenigma: that was what i ment with the link in that perenthesis :) |
| 01:00.24 | ultimate- | yo |
| 01:00.37 | ultimate- | does anyone knows when i `m inside a 25men and log back fro ma disconnection my wow hangs |
| 01:00.40 | Tuller_ | Kinkx: it shouldn't be |
| 01:00.43 | ultimate- | have to disable all shit |
| 01:00.46 | ultimate- | to get back in |
| 01:00.48 | Kinkx | I see it updates the range ever seconds, if I set it to 0.5 instead of 1, it shouldn't mess up the performance that much should it? :o |
| 01:01.23 | Kinkx | Ah, I'll find out myself ;P |
| 01:01.25 | Ordog | i got the impression that many people are recoiling before its length, so taking bits of it and making them more entertaining might promote the document as beeing meaningful |
| 01:01.27 | Kinkx | ^_^ |
| 01:02.05 | Chompers | i've seen a few people with that issue ultimate- |
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| 01:02.24 | Ordog | like the good ol bart simpson picture showing him writing "i will ask google before bothering other people with my questions" on a board :) |
| 01:02.25 | Chompers | they had to disable everything before going in, log out and enable what they need then log back in |
| 01:03.39 | Tuller_ | Kinkx: are you running any macros on your bar, by chance? |
| 01:04.01 | Kinkx | Yea I am |
| 01:06.07 | ultimate- | chompers yea |
| 01:06.19 | ultimate- | any idea whats causing it |
| 01:06.21 | Chompers | any luck on google? |
| 01:06.30 | Chompers | i dont do 25 mans, so i have no idea |
| 01:06.31 | ultimate- | but once i`m out of the instance corpse running and before going in |
| 01:06.37 | ultimate- | i can actually enable all and get in |
| 01:06.41 | ultimate- | its only fucking up in raids |
| 01:06.44 | ultimate- | even in 10 mens |
| 01:06.46 | ultimate- | like kara etc |
| 01:06.57 | ultimate- | Chompers i have no idea what to google for |
| 01:07.02 | ultimate- | i tried searching on wow forums but no luck |
| 01:07.04 | Chompers | run wowaceupdater recently? |
| 01:07.05 | [Liquidor] | How do I get the level and class of a player who whispers me? |
| 01:07.15 | ultimate- | i deleted wtf/cache/addons folder and got everything i needed etc |
| 01:07.24 | Keias | ultimate- |
| 01:07.26 | ultimate- | i run wowupdater like 3 times a day now |
| 01:07.31 | Keias | If you're using ANY custom unitframes |
| 01:07.35 | Keias | you'll get that same problem |
| 01:07.39 | Keias | It was in the channel topic |
| 01:07.40 | ultimate- | i`m only using ag unit frames |
| 01:07.42 | ultimate- | thats causing it? |
| 01:07.51 | Keias | Any custom |
| 01:07.51 | ultimate- | ah |
| 01:07.54 | Keias | So yeah |
| 01:07.55 | ultimate- | thats a customer |
| 01:07.57 | Keias | What you can do |
| 01:08.01 | Keias | Is have the raid leader kick you |
| 01:08.03 | Keias | then after you load |
| 01:08.04 | Keias | reinvite |
| 01:08.15 | Keias | that should be a semi-work around |
| 01:08.21 | ultimate- | thanks man |
| 01:08.39 | ultimate- | may be i should disable it for some time |
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| 01:08.52 | Keias | if you DC a lot during raids |
| 01:09.00 | Keias | It might be a good idea until things are sorted on Blizzard's end |
| 01:09.05 | NeoTron | wonder how much trash it is between entrance of SSC and Morogrim |
| 01:09.19 | NeoTron | do you have to do anything weird to bypass hydross? |
| 01:09.20 | [Liquidor] | Which API should I be looking at to pull out level and class from the author of an incomming whisper? |
| 01:09.36 | ultimate- | yea |
| 01:09.37 | [Liquidor] | NeoTron, kill trashes |
| 01:09.38 | ultimate- | u can bypass it |
| 01:10.01 | NeoTron | you have to manaully summon lurker by fishing right? |
| 01:10.02 | *** part/#wowace Herio (n=Kevin@dsl027-181-250.sfo1.dsl.speakeasy.net) |
| 01:10.08 | [Liquidor] | Ye it sucks |
| 01:10.12 | NeoTron | hehe |
| 01:10.23 | [Liquidor] | Specially if you only got 1-3 fishing players in the raid |
| 01:10.47 | ultimate- | but when the raid was like over and i ninja logged out and in , when i was alone it wasnt hanging at all |
| 01:10.49 | ultimate- | just for info |
| 01:10.52 | Chompers | we have 2 players in the whole guild with fishing over 50 |
| 01:10.53 | [Liquidor] | If Hydross is pulling off your hair then bypass him. The other couple of bosses are easier in most cases. |
| 01:11.01 | ultimate- | um |
| 01:11.19 | ultimate- | good fight = leo |
| 01:11.28 | [Liquidor] | So.... |
| 01:11.31 | CIA-22 | 03archarodim * r37731 10Decursive/ (10 files): |
| 01:11.31 | CIA-22 | Decursive: |
| 01:11.32 | CIA-22 | - Lua error fixed when using the decurse key and no spell are available. |
| 01:11.32 | CIA-22 | - The string "No spell available" has been localized (frFR already translated) |
| 01:11.44 | [Liquidor] | The level and class info from a whispering player? Who do I pull out those? |
| 01:11.45 | sbu | [Liquidor]: how to bypass hydross? |
| 01:11.52 | sbu | just walk around? or any trick? |
| 01:11.54 | CIA-22 | 03gamefaq * r37732 10Prat/ (Prat.toc Prat_Modules/modules/Alias.lua libs/includes.xml): |
| 01:11.54 | CIA-22 | Prat: - Removed obsolete references from toc and includes.xml to stop Errors in FrameXML.log |
| 01:11.54 | CIA-22 | - Added missing translations to Alias Module and Updated deDE Local |
| 01:11.56 | [Liquidor] | sbu, I don't know the actual route. |
| 01:12.09 | [Liquidor] | Go WoWWiki it. Prolly there |
| 01:12.40 | ultimate- | you need to swim a bit |
| 01:12.43 | [Liquidor] | Gah, noone able to help me out on this one? :/ |
| 01:12.48 | ultimate- | use fish oil |
| 01:12.49 | [Liquidor] | No clue what to search for either |
| 01:13.21 | NeoTron | ultimate-: aka bring shamans |
| 01:14.56 | ultimate- | one is enough |
| 01:14.59 | ultimate- | or 2 |
| 01:15.23 | ultimate- | we cleared like whole ssc today except vashj(gona try on that bitch tomo) |
| 01:15.55 | [Liquidor] | hyperChipmunk, you around? |
| 01:16.42 | NeoTron | cool |
| 01:16.49 | NeoTron | first time going there will be tonight |
| 01:17.05 | NeoTron | if we can get enough ppl who are attuned, not certain - we're sort of borderline |
| 01:19.45 | aen` | does pitbull allow you to specify how many auras per row? |
| 01:21.00 | BankZ | Anyone know if you can change the icons sizes in pitboss? |
| 01:21.08 | aen` | yeah |
| 01:21.08 | BankZ | for things like lootmaster |
| 01:21.10 | aen` | oj |
| 01:21.12 | aen` | oh |
| 01:21.25 | hyperChipmunk | [Liquidor]: i'm more of asquare |
| 01:21.41 | [Liquidor] | That's not healthy |
| 01:22.35 | [Liquidor] | How do I pull out level/class and maybe other player informations from an author of incomming whispers? |
| 01:22.52 | JoshBorke | [Liquidor]: type /who <whisperer> |
| 01:23.03 | nymbia | that info's not available using just the incoming whisper |
| 01:23.11 | [Liquidor] | I know nymbia |
| 01:23.19 | [Liquidor] | therefor, what do I need to do instead? |
| 01:23.28 | nymbia | like JoshBorke said |
| 01:23.30 | nymbia | who 'em |
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| 01:24.50 | [Liquidor] | What's the function name of it? so I can look up the api |
| 01:24.51 | nymbia | it's not that simple |
| 01:24.54 | [Liquidor] | Just who? or QueryWho or anything similar? |
| 01:25.01 | nymbia | you need to send the request then wait for it to come back |
| 01:25.14 | [Liquidor] | Well I suppose I have to read the social frame too? |
| 01:25.21 | nymbia | there's a handful of addons that do it |
| 01:33.22 | Thorgard^2 | Has "Threat-1.0-37726 (Threat-1.0):573: attempt to index field 'partyMemberLocales' (a nil value)" been reported already? |
| 01:34.04 | sbu | yep |
| 01:34.10 | Thorgard^2 | Ah. |
| 01:34.57 | CIA-22 | 03antiarc * r37733 10Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0/ (6 files in 3 dirs): |
| 01:34.57 | CIA-22 | Threat-1.0: |
| 01:34.57 | CIA-22 | - Fixed a couple of bugs resulting from my method rename earlier today |
| 01:34.57 | CIA-22 | - Got the beginnings of the NPC module in. Knock Back, Wing Buffet, and Sand Blast are all in and working now. Go test it on the Teromoths outside of Shattrath :) |
| 01:34.58 | CIA-22 | - Got an example Attumen module in, but I'm not happy with it yet, so don't go tearing off and creating new modules just yet. |
| 01:35.05 | Antiarc | Speaking of. |
| 01:35.06 | Antiarc | :) |
| 01:36.09 | Funkeh` | Antiarc: what ahppens if i go tearing off and making new modules? |
| 01:36.30 | Antiarc | I will have to rewrite them when I am happy with the NPC module structure! |
| 01:36.49 | Funkeh` | so if i do it i create lot smore work for you? sounds positive to me! |
| 01:36.55 | Funkeh` | err |
| 01:37.06 | Funkeh` | so if i creae them i make lots more work for you* |
| 01:37.08 | sbu | Antiarc: uhm - sync working again? :P |
| 01:37.15 | Funkeh` | oh fuck it |
| 01:38.09 | Funkeh` | Antiarc: please feel free to rip localizations from bigwigs |
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| 01:38.16 | Funkeh` | for yells and such |
| 01:39.21 | Antiarc | sbu: Got me |
| 01:39.29 | Antiarc | Funkeh`: Planning on it. :) |
| 01:41.02 | sbu | Antiarc: uhm - thats a no i guess? :p |
| 01:41.52 | CIA-22 | 03luggy * r37734 10lugMD/ (17 files in 2 dirs): |
| 01:41.52 | CIA-22 | lugMD: initial commit |
| 01:41.52 | CIA-22 | - lugMD is a tool designed to assist raiding hunters coordinate their |
| 01:41.52 | CIA-22 | Misdirection (MD) abilities. It will trigger a timer bar for each hunter on all |
| 01:41.52 | CIA-22 | hunter's screens. In this way, members can clearly see targets and cooldowns. |
| 01:41.53 | bigzero | is there an easy way to set a left-click response for dewdrop? |
| 01:42.59 | nymbia | 'func', function() dostuff() end |
| 01:42.59 | sbu | nymbia!! |
| 01:42.59 | bigzero | i mean for the button it is registered with |
| 01:42.59 | Funkeh` | nymbia!!!! |
| 01:43.26 | sbu | could you please prioritize conjoured mage water > other water? :o |
| 01:43.26 | bigzero | like it automatically registers the right-click, but I want it to respond to left-click as well |
| 01:43.28 | sbu | (in pt3bar) |
| 01:43.50 | nymbia | ~flee |
| 01:44.02 | purl | ACTION runs away screaming |
| 01:44.02 | JoshBorke | bigzero: you're the one that calls the dewdrop to be opened |
| 01:44.02 | nymbia | sbu: you can do that in the config |
| 01:44.25 | nymbia | i'm more interested in who broke keybindings! |
| 01:44.41 | sbu | nymbia: oh? hm |
| 01:44.46 | sbu | damn :) |
| 01:45.50 | bigzero | JoshBorke, what do you mean? |
| 01:46.14 | Arrowmaster | Antiarc: something seems borken, threat-1.0 says my threat is a lot higher than KTM, im guessing either my talents or salv is not being counted |
| 01:46.16 | JoshBorke | well, what i remember is your mod calls the dewdrop show function |
| 01:46.49 | Antiarc | Arrowmaster: Class? |
| 01:47.00 | bigzero | JoshBorke, not quite...not the way the Register function worls now anyway...it automatically registers a dewdrop to a button's right_click event |
| 01:47.15 | Funkeh` | Arrowmaster: or threat-1.0 is more accurate? :) |
| 01:47.23 | bigzero | JoshBorke, or I'm not getting something in the wiki |
| 01:48.37 | bigzero | JoshBorke, i guess I could pass dontHook parameter and set it up on all OnClick events |
| 01:48.44 | Arrowmaster | Antiarc: warlock |
| 01:49.04 | Arrowmaster | also we just wiped on gruul and i have him targeted now and it says i have 3.6k threat on him |
| 01:49.09 | Arrowmaster | we havent pulled yet |
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| 01:49.34 | bigzero | you must've pissed gruul off pretty bad |
| 01:49.36 | JoshBorke | bigzero: use Open |
| 01:49.42 | chutwig | yay we just killed hydross |
| 01:49.43 | Gagorian | Arrowmaster: There's a bug that leaves a bit threat behind, but it wont last so no worries |
| 01:49.53 | Gagorian | Also, the Threat-1.0 warlock module is much more accurate than KTM |
| 01:49.59 | chutwig | rawr |
| 01:50.03 | Gagorian | KTM doesn't count siphon, curse etc application threat |
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| 01:50.34 | Gagorian | So either it's that, or then something else is wrong if the difference is big |
| 01:50.40 | sbu | Antiarc: hexchecksum error (285) |
| 01:51.33 | jokp | does threat work if you are the only one with the addon? |
| 01:51.38 | jokp | or lots of people need to have it? |
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| 01:51.44 | Antiarc | jokp: It'll work for you, but that doesn't tell you anything useful |
| 01:52.09 | jokp | so the party needs to have it in order to get something to compare to right? |
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| 01:52.13 | Antiarc | Yeah |
| 01:52.42 | jokp | will give it a try i think |
| 01:52.59 | Arrowmaster | Gagorian: what kinda other stuff does the warlock module count that ktm doesnt? |
| 01:53.06 | nekoh_ | Antiarc: found some bugs in the nameTranslation code: assuming self.mobNameTranslations is used this way: [myLocal_mobName][otherLocal] = otherLocal_mobName, -> MOB_NAME_TRANSLATION_REPLY() uses it this way: [otherLocal_mobName][otherLocale] = myLocal_mobName ... TranslateForeignMobName() totally screws it up and uses it this way: [otherLocale][otherLocal_mobName] = myLocal_mobName, but i dont see any use for this function anyway |
| 01:53.40 | Arrowmaster | the difference was quite large im thinking it might have been greater salv |
| 01:53.56 | Antiarc | nekoh_: TranslateForeignMobName is going to be used by the NPC modules |
| 01:54.00 | Antiarc | But thanks, I'll check those out |
| 01:55.13 | Gagorian | Arrowmaster: Well, the difference shouldn't be larger than a few thousand, otherwise something else is wrong |
| 01:55.26 | Gagorian | Any mage here? |
| 01:55.32 | nekoh_ | yea |
| 01:55.48 | Gagorian | Someone who might be on crack just e-mailed me that... |
| 01:55.50 | Gagorian | "Spell Power is not a CritMultiplier -- it adds +dmg on crits no easy to to calculate that on the fly other then to make assumptions about the crit %. Additionally, it's not 0.125 or 12.5% it is 0.25 or 25% per rank." |
| 01:55.58 | Gagorian | Wtf? |
| 01:56.03 | Arrowmaster | the difference was like threat-1.0 saying 130k, ktm saying 100k |
| 01:56.09 | Arrowmaster | im guessing its salv |
| 01:56.13 | nymbia | Gagorian: rofl |
| 01:56.15 | aen` | anyone know a way to lock the PC power button so accidental hits wont power off? |
| 01:56.22 | Kalman| | Gagorian: Hard to say, but I'd go with "he's dumb". |
| 01:56.33 | sbu | aen`: cut the cable? |
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| 01:56.57 | Arrowmaster | aen`: should be able to change the behavior in either bios or windows control panel |
| 01:56.59 | Antiarc | Arrowmaster: Salv should be working, but I haven't tested it yet. |
| 01:57.02 | aen` | then how would i power it on :o |
| 01:57.44 | Thorgard^2 | aen`, if you have a computer made after the 1980 you might have an option in the BIOS to require the power button to be held down for around 4 seconds before powering the computer off. |
| 01:57.58 | Gagorian | I have to answer him that.. If he doesn't know shit about how stuff works he shouldn't go look at my code |
| 01:58.14 | Thorgard^2 | Gagorian, say it nicely. ;P |
| 01:58.26 | Gagorian | He said I wasn't taking into account mind mastery or the mana increase of empowered arcane missiles cause they weren't on the talent page |
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| 01:58.42 | Gagorian | But those are from the API and from the tooltip |
| 01:59.10 | Thorgard^2 | So he's saying the API results are wrong. ;P |
| 02:00.36 | Arrowmaster | Antiarc: im using r37694 if that helps, but from comparing it KTM it doesnt look like salv is working |
| 02:00.54 | Arrowmaster | any debug functions? |
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| 02:04.19 | nekoh | Antiarc: another suggestion would be to use the "WHISPER" distribution-type when sending "MOB_NAME_TRANSLATION_REQUEST"-msgs, since its meant to be read by one specific person only, the reply should of course stay the way it is |
| 02:06.26 | hypetech | bigwigs should add an aggro alert like dbm...just a though |
| 02:06.29 | hypetech | thought* |
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| 02:08.04 | CIA-22 | 03funkydude * r37735 10LittleWigs/TempestKeep/ (Capacitus.lua Ironhand.lua): LittleWigs: Capacitus/Ironhand: add some bars |
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| 02:08.11 | Funkeh` | hypetech: why? |
| 02:08.17 | CIA-22 | 03antiarc * r37736 10Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0/ (3 files in 2 dirs): Threat-1.0: Fixed the raid threat multiplier comm command. |
| 02:08.20 | Funkeh` | hypetech: something wrong with BanzaiAlert? |
| 02:08.32 | dodgizzla | hypetech: There are already 2 Ace'd addons that have aggro notification |
| 02:08.44 | dodgizzla | And that's even possible with GridAlert |
| 02:08.50 | hyperChipmunk | more'n that |
| 02:09.02 | dodgizzla | What the heck has AggroAlert to do in a "boss mod compilation" |
| 02:09.13 | Funkeh` | dunno ask the author of dbm |
| 02:09.30 | dodgizzla | Granted, the big flashy thingie in La Vendetta was.. neat |
| 02:09.31 | Antiarc | nekoh: Is the WHISPER distribution relatively reliable? I was under the impression that GROUP was preferred |
| 02:09.47 | Funkeh` | whisper works great |
| 02:09.50 | Funkeh` | but why need it? |
| 02:09.57 | Antiarc | Ok, I'll switch to it |
| 02:10.01 | Antiarc | Localization requests, Funkeh` |
| 02:10.04 | Funkeh` | ah |
| 02:10.07 | Funkeh` | yeah works perfect |
| 02:10.10 | dodgizzla | but meh, I have GridAlert and it yells that aggro sound from Squishy at me every time I overnuke :o |
| 02:10.10 | Antiarc | Dynamic mob name localization |
| 02:10.13 | hypetech | bigwigs also didn't give me a timer for attunemen's curse cooldown like dbm :p |
| 02:10.18 | hypetech | just differences I've noticed so far |
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| 02:10.46 | Funkeh` | hypetech: BanzaiAlert works fine for me when i use it |
| 02:10.56 | dodgizzla | Hey Antiarc, what about ditching Threat/Omen and fixing Sanity *run&hide* |
| 02:11.12 | Arrowmaster | why do you need a cooldown for the curse? |
| 02:11.12 | Sole | good day! |
| 02:11.22 | Ominous | dodgizza: shoo |
| 02:11.25 | Arrowmaster | just decurse it when it gets cast |
| 02:11.27 | hypetech | I used to use banzai, actually I just forgot all about it |
| 02:11.28 | hypetech | good point |
| 02:11.34 | Antiarc | dodgizzla: *grin* |
| 02:11.43 | Antiarc | Arrowmaster: I'm testing Salvation with nothing else and it's working fine |
| 02:11.43 | dodgizzla | nowais! giev me back my sanity2 :/ |
| 02:11.46 | Funkeh` | hypetech: :) |
| 02:11.47 | Antiarc | Maybe the Greater Blessing is borked. |
| 02:11.59 | dodgizzla | I always have to log back and forth because it is not remembering correctly what I have on my twinks |
| 02:12.13 | dodgizzla | And if Sanity is not knowing what crap I own.. then I'm lost! |
| 02:12.28 | Funkeh` | Antiarc: rgeater is exact same as non fyi |
| 02:12.35 | Antiarc | Funkeh`: Yeah, but I might not be detecting it |
| 02:12.55 | Funkeh` | are you using SEEA to detect buffs? |
| 02:12.59 | Antiarc | Yeah |
| 02:13.03 | Funkeh` | hmm |
| 02:13.05 | Funkeh` | strange |
| 02:13.46 | [FH]Birdemani | so colalight seems to take up a lot of mem...with 17,814 items in the database its using 2.98 |
| 02:14.11 | Funkeh` | what does colalight do? |
| 02:14.17 | NightHawkTheSane | sell value of items |
| 02:14.21 | [FH]Birdemani | adds info to tooltip |
| 02:14.35 | NightHawkTheSane | Grab Sellfish, does the same thing, takes up less memory |
| 02:14.45 | [FH]Birdemani | on wua/ |
| 02:14.47 | [FH]Birdemani | ? |
| 02:14.51 | NightHawkTheSane | no, on wowi |
| 02:15.00 | Funkeh` | well any addons that stores a database like that is bound to take a bit of memory |
| 02:15.13 | [FH]Birdemani | ya, atlasloot is up there as well |
| 02:15.14 | Funkeh` | i bet it takes ahrdly any wiht a 0 database :P |
| 02:15.17 | NightHawkTheSane | yeah, but cola light doesn't do any/much compression. |
| 02:15.35 | hyperChipmunk | it's all static memory anyway |
| 02:16.07 | NightHawkTheSane | yeah |
| 02:16.10 | Antiarc | Just tested, Greater Salv is working as intended |
| 02:16.32 | hyperChipmunk | strictly speaking, i'd expect more churn and performance degradation from compressed databased |
| 02:16.35 | hyperChipmunk | s* |
| 02:16.43 | Funkeh` | yeah |
| 02:16.45 | Funkeh` | more cpu usage etc |
| 02:16.46 | Antiarc | FWIW, I've heard reports of other warlocks having too much threat |
| 02:16.52 | Antiarc | So it may be a problem in the warlock calcs |
| 02:16.55 | hyperChipmunk | but either way, it's six of one, half-dozen of another |
| 02:16.59 | Antiarc | I don't have a lock to test with though :( |
| 02:17.10 | Funkeh` | doesn't really matter that much if its taking 5meg of memory, if its taking 5meg of memory a second id be worried |
| 02:17.38 | NightHawkTheSane | well, neither has noticable memory churn, at least not that i could clearly see |
| 02:17.54 | Funkeh` | im pretty sure a mod with a compressed database would have more cpu/second and more KiBs/second |
| 02:18.49 | NightHawkTheSane | im just going on my own observations, so whatever. |
| 02:27.18 | Gagorian | I just tested warlock threat |
| 02:27.22 | Gagorian | was fine |
| 02:27.36 | Funkeh` | lol |
| 02:27.39 | Funkeh` | well thats conflicting |
| 02:27.47 | Gagorian | I got both threat reduction talents so they should work |
| 02:27.47 | Funkeh` | did you test it alongside ktm? |
| 02:27.50 | Gagorian | Are you MD Arrowmaster? |
| 02:27.52 | Gagorian | Funkeh`: yeah |
| 02:28.10 | vodrin | fine for me too |
| 02:28.23 | vodrin | and i only have destr |
| 02:28.29 | Funkeh` | is it generally bug free again? |
| 02:28.43 | Antiarc | Seems to be working for me, though the files.wowace copy is several revisions behind |
| 02:28.44 | Funkeh` | haven't actually tested it in a while |
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| 02:29.21 | Thorgard^2 | Aurgh. |
| 02:29.39 | Arrowmaster | Gagorian: no |
| 02:29.43 | Thorgard^2 | Antiarc, is "Threat-1.0-37736 (Threat-1.0):292: Bad argument #1 to `HexCheckSum'. "string" expected, got "nil" (nil). Please report to Antiarc." reported already? ;P |
| 02:30.29 | Arrowmaster | have both 10% threat talents, no md, had greater salv, threat-1.0 was showing as much much higher than ktm |
| 02:30.52 | Gagorian | well, it's fine for me |
| 02:30.56 | Funkeh` | like i said, maybe ktm was wrong |
| 02:31.06 | Funkeh` | don't rule that out ;) |
| 02:31.12 | Antiarc | Thorgard^2: Bah. It keeps popping up. What's the stack trace? |
| 02:32.59 | Thorgard^2 | Antiarc, six http://ace.pastey.net/46191, one http://ace.pastey.net/46193 |
| 02:38.33 | Antiarc | Ok, thanks. I may know what it is. |
| 02:39.21 | CIA-22 | 03gagorian * r37737 10DrDamage/ (10 files in 2 dirs): |
| 02:39.21 | CIA-22 | DrDamage: |
| 02:39.21 | CIA-22 | - Big changes to calculation engine, modularized special cases, expect some breakage |
| 02:39.22 | CIA-22 | - DPS for hybrid spells is now 'rotational DPS' instead of spam DPS (more logical for spells like immolate) |
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| 02:43.05 | Funkeh` | ckknight: does parser 3 kill 1.1 if both are installed? |
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| 02:46.35 | Gagorian | Tested Threat-1.0 with GBOS on warlock. Works fine |
| 02:46.47 | hypetech | w00t. staff of infinite mysteries. curator is a pushover |
| 02:47.34 | Antiarc | One thing that might explain Threat-KTM discrepancies -- |
| 02:47.36 | Antiarc | Multiple targets. |
| 02:47.51 | Gagorian | Aha, now I get it |
| 02:47.53 | Gagorian | Gruul, yes? |
| 02:48.02 | Gagorian | What about shatter damage |
| 02:48.12 | Antiarc | Shatter shouldn't matter |
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| 02:48.31 | Arrowmaster | hmm wtf |
| 02:48.50 | Arrowmaster | ill update again if we wipe |
| 02:48.55 | Arrowmaster | healers are fucking up |
| 02:49.08 | Funkeh` | doing gruul? |
| 02:49.22 | Gagorian | Antiarc: Well something has to explain for the differences |
| 02:50.21 | Antiarc | We're about to do Gruul, so I'll intentionally shatter someone and watch my threat. |
| 02:50.21 | Antiarc | >_> |
| 02:50.28 | Antiarc | Sorry, random victim-to-be. |
| 02:50.40 | BankZ | Does pitboss lag anyone else out? |
| 02:51.13 | Funkeh` | Antiarc: if you are using bigwigs, please provide some feedback on the accuracy of the timers |
| 02:51.23 | Antiarc | Funkeh`: I am and I will, but I haven't updated recently. |
| 02:51.31 | Antiarc | They've always seemed decent enough to me. |
| 02:51.37 | Funkeh` | when was the alst time? |
| 02:51.50 | Funkeh` | i changed the module a few days ago |
| 02:53.54 | Antiarc | Probably a week ago or so |
| 02:54.13 | Antiarc | I tend to not update while doing mod dev to limit unexpected problems that lead to bug killing funkiness. |
| 02:54.30 | Funkeh` | yeah you will need to update :p |
| 02:54.40 | Funkeh` | for your feedback to be of any value anyway |
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| 02:59.00 | Arrowmaster | ok just now threat-1.0 just seemed slightly higher than KTM |
| 02:59.16 | Arrowmaster | like by 2k at 200k threat so i dont know wtf was going on earlyer |
| 02:59.42 | Gagorian | 2k at 200k threat is what it should be about |
| 02:59.54 | Gagorian | Due to threat from curse/siphon life applications |
| 03:00.36 | CIA-22 | 03funkydude * r37738 10PeriodicTable-3.0/ (5 files in 4 dirs): |
| 03:00.36 | CIA-22 | PeriodicTable-3.0: |
| 03:00.37 | CIA-22 | - add some Black Temple & Mount Hyjal bosses |
| 03:00.37 | CIA-22 | - Item/Loot Update |
| 03:01.03 | Antiarc | I'm noticing some problems with it myself in my raid. Looking for reasons. |
| 03:03.22 | CIA-22 | 03gagorian * r37739 10Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0/ThreatClassModuleCore.lua: Threat-1.0: - Fixed issue where possibly threat affecting buffs/debuffs weren't taken into account |
| 03:04.40 | CIA-22 | 03antiarc * r37740 10Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0.lua: Threat-1.0: Only publish locale if the party size has changed. Holy zoning spam, Batman. |
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| 03:06.01 | Funkeh` | lol |
| 03:06.18 | Funkeh` | lots of whispers about locale? :D |
| 03:06.54 | jwwpua | Gagorian: did you ever figure out the mechanics of healing way? |
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| 03:08.31 | Gagorian | jwwpua: Not yet |
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| 03:09.23 | ZealotOnAStick | So, Antiarc, trying Omen in SSC tonight. |
| 03:09.38 | ZealotOnAStick | Less useful than I'd hoped with only 2 warlocks running it, one of them me . . . |
| 03:09.53 | ZealotOnAStick | but already damn impressed. Needs scaling options and a visible menu system. |
| 03:10.15 | hyperChipmunk | lol |
| 03:11.03 | nekoh | Antiarc: make it "if self.lastPartySize > sizeBeforeUpdate then", since we only want to publish Locale, when a new player enters the raid/group :D |
| 03:11.16 | ZealotOnAStick | the multi-target threat table is love. |
| 03:13.23 | Antiarc | nekoh: Good point. |
| 03:14.34 | Antiarc | ZealotOnAStick: Glad you like it so far. |
| 03:14.47 | Antiarc | I did see some interestion behavior just now on Maulgar - |
| 03:14.54 | Antiarc | My threat kept jumping down a couple K, then up a bunch. |
| 03:14.59 | Antiarc | I wasn't using any threat reducers |
| 03:15.19 | Mikk | _Down_? o.O |
| 03:15.19 | Antiarc | So if I find the source of that, I'll bet that's the cause of a lot of the incongruencies. |
| 03:15.22 | Antiarc | yeah |
| 03:16.22 | Mikk | Put in a checker before and after callouts to mods so they can't turn positive into negative? |
| 03:17.40 | Antiarc | Mikk: Well, this was my own threat, which indicates it isn't a comms problem |
| 03:18.03 | Mikk | Aeuhm where'd I saw comm? o.O |
| 03:18.06 | Mikk | say* |
| 03:18.21 | Sole | you did now! |
| 03:18.29 | Funkeh` | haha |
| 03:18.30 | Funkeh` | pwnd |
| 03:18.39 | Mikk | Core -> [Save value] -> Class/etc mods -> [Check value] |
| 03:18.42 | CIA-22 | 03gagorian * r37741 10DrDamage/DrDamage.lua: |
| 03:18.42 | CIA-22 | DrDamage: |
| 03:18.42 | CIA-22 | - Fixed errors on lines 2351-2352 |
| 03:19.30 | Mikk | Antiarc: Btw, dump all your combat events to a nice in-memory log SV |
| 03:19.52 | Antiarc | I'm gonna add some sanity checks with debug code and see if that gets me anything |
| 03:20.02 | Mikk | That way you can replay |
| 03:20.08 | hyperChipmunk | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:20.19 | Antiarc | I'm a rogue, so I shouldn't be dropping threat without feint or vanish |
| 03:20.40 | Mikk | IDd |
| 03:21.12 | bigzero | is ckknight the only one granting write access to svn? |
| 03:21.13 | Mikk | On a related fix-crap-mods note.... Who'd be up for building a better GuildCalendar/GEM? I've got some nice ideas =) |
| 03:21.27 | hyperChipmunk | do we even bother checking for feint? seems like a waste, since no rogue actually uses it |
| 03:21.57 | hyperChipmunk | bigzero: ckknight has no control over such things; you're looking for Kaelten |
| 03:23.51 | Funkeh` | hyperChipmunk: lol i don't think we can use that excuse somehow |
| 03:23.51 | bigzero | hyperChipmunk, in that case, I submitted a request, so I'll just wait |
| 03:23.51 | Antiarc | Okay, it's not in the classcore. |
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| 03:24.22 | hyperChipmunk | bigzero: that's the way to go; kael actually seems to have a life, which is rather a large inconvenience for us most of the time |
| 03:24.36 | bigzero | lol |
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| 03:26.34 | CIA-22 | 03luggy * r37742 10lugMD/lugMD.toc: lugMD: Updated TOC |
| 03:26.37 | BankZ | With Pitboss, can the icons (master loot, leader, combat) me moved or resized? |
| 03:26.43 | Sedai_ | is AceGUI similar to say.. discord Art in respects to adding images to your UI? |
| 03:26.44 | BankZ | *be not me |
| 03:27.25 | Sedai_ | sorry to ask dumb question |
| 03:27.26 | Mikk | Sedai_: No, it's a library |
| 03:27.46 | Mikk | I should go ninjaedit the toc description |
| 03:27.56 | Sedai_ | hmm |
| 03:28.05 | Mikk | Hell, I should go ninjaedit a _LOT_ of toc descriptions >.< |
| 03:28.21 | hyperChipmunk | acegui is way-outdated |
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| 03:28.37 | hyperChipmunk | and it was a way to use lua to handle frames and common frame elements |
| 03:28.40 | Sedai_ | what is the difference between ACP and MCP? |
| 03:28.56 | Sedai_ | ahh |
| 03:29.00 | hyperChipmunk | now that we have CreateFrame and such, it isn't needed |
| 03:29.05 | Sedai_ | i see |
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| 03:30.22 | Sedai_ | is there soemthing better than aguf? |
| 03:30.45 | Killmore | pitbull :P |
| 03:30.51 | Mikk | Many think PitBull is |
| 03:31.31 | rophy | Sedai_: MCP is the original mod, ACP is it's branch. |
| 03:31.37 | Sedai_ | may I ask? what do you use Mikk? |
| 03:31.48 | Sedai_ | aa sou desu ne :D |
| 03:31.59 | Sedai_ | rophy: thanks |
| 03:32.05 | aen` | Sedai_: nihongo hanashimasuka? |
| 03:32.06 | hyperChipmunk | most use pitbull now |
| 03:32.19 | Kebinusan | kazzak has a voice now |
| 03:32.22 | Kebinusan | its kidna neat |
| 03:32.22 | Mikk | Sedai_: blizzard frames =) |
| 03:32.48 | Mikk | lmao |
| 03:32.56 | rophy | Blizzard frames are the best. |
| 03:32.57 | Sedai_ | boku wa nihongo sukoshi hanashimasu ^^; |
| 03:32.57 | Kebinusan | Doom Lord Kazzak to you sir |
| 03:33.15 | Phroon | Just a random Threat_1.0/Omen question; is the marking of targets used to differentiate mobs with the same name? Or would the fact that you could start combat without marks on the creatures and then put them on kill that idea? |
| 03:33.17 | Sedai_ | is there a clean way of moving the blizzard frames? |
| 03:33.22 | aen` | naruhodo |
| 03:33.39 | Mikk | Phroon: It is not. |
| 03:33.47 | aen` | ore wa nihonjin desu |
| 03:34.03 | art3mis | is there a mroe self effacing and nobler person that Bill Watterson? |
| 03:34.05 | hyperChipmunk | Phroon: that isn't even the reason; you don't get combat messages for target marks |
| 03:34.08 | Mikk | Phroon: It's "sort of" doable, but there's so many factors that can screw it up, it's not really being considered right now. |
| 03:34.34 | hyperChipmunk | art3mis: no |
| 03:34.34 | Phroon | Ahh |
| 03:34.34 | Sedai_ | boku wa Amerika kara kimashita |
| 03:34.34 | art3mis | didnt think so |
| 03:34.39 | Phroon | Just tossing it out there :) |
| 03:34.53 | hyperChipmunk | if you're targetting something and casting nukes on a different target of the same name, raid icons won't help you |
| 03:35.02 | hyperChipmunk | (say, your focus target) |
| 03:35.18 | Mikk | That's a wee bit far fetched tho :-P |
| 03:35.41 | aen` | hmm |
| 03:35.45 | Kebinusan | the combat log doesnt give any info about what raid target icon your target has |
| 03:35.46 | hyperChipmunk | it doesn't say You nuke diamond fire beetle for 4205. |
| 03:35.49 | aen` | does fubar have a plugin to show gold? |
| 03:35.54 | aen` | since baggins doesnt :o |
| 03:36.35 | hyperChipmunk | it just says You nuke fire beetle for 4205. |
| 03:36.35 | Mikk | Obviously |
| 03:36.35 | hyperChipmunk | art3mis: MoneyFu |
| 03:36.35 | art3mis | ooo so close |
| 03:36.35 | CIA-22 | 03luggy * r37743 10lugMD/: |
| 03:36.35 | CIA-22 | lugMD: |
| 03:36.35 | CIA-22 | - added libraries |
| 03:36.51 | art3mis | a patch? |
| 03:37.02 | Mikk | But doing threat detection vs raid icons would obviously mean making assumptions |
| 03:37.02 | hyperChipmunk | i hope so |
| 03:37.12 | art3mis | what got fixed? |
| 03:37.15 | hyperChipmunk | my client still crashes when my pet dies >8\ |
| 03:37.23 | sdouble | heh, ouh |
| 03:37.26 | sdouble | ouch rather |
| 03:37.30 | Mikk | So it'd be a "if you break it, you get to keep both halves" kinda deal to begin with |
| 03:37.32 | ulic | Aen': I like AuditorFu |
| 03:37.33 | sdouble | that's a true /mourn |
| 03:38.25 | Mikk | But .. and here's the real question... what's the point of doing it? o.O |
| 03:38.33 | haarm | aen` I just use MoneyFu |
| 03:38.39 | haarm | does the trick |
| 03:38.52 | Mikk | When do you have multiple mobs with so high HP that threat monitoring is even relevant? |
| 03:39.00 | Phroon | Exactly |
| 03:39.16 | Antiarc | Mikk: Maulgar? |
| 03:39.31 | Mikk | What's equally-named on maulgar? o.O |
| 03:39.35 | Sedai_ | is tattle worth getting? |
| 03:39.44 | Sedai_ | seems very useful. |
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| 03:39.57 | Antiarc | Oh, raid icons. Nevermind >_> |
| 03:40.07 | Antiarc | And you can't do it via raid icons because there's no icon data in the chat log |
| 03:40.10 | Phroon | It wasn't a question of if it should be done, it was a question of if it could be done. |
| 03:40.14 | hypetech | Does grid have a module or setting to show me when somebody doesn't have AI/AB buff? |
| 03:40.19 | Antiarc | No, it can't be. |
| 03:40.37 | Mikk | Antiarc: You can, via checking your target, and assuming that's what you're nuking, etc... read up .. it does make assumptions |
| 03:40.38 | kenlyric|home | same reason you can't target based on raid icon. Because blizzard hates us. |
| 03:40.51 | Mikk | My end point was "when the hell do you need it" :-P |
| 03:41.18 | art3mis | hyperChipmunk: fixed a crash in the client |
| 03:41.21 | art3mis | thats the patch |
| 03:41.35 | CIA-22 | 03luggy * r37744 10lugMD/ (42 files in 17 dirs): |
| 03:41.35 | CIA-22 | lugMD: |
| 03:41.35 | CIA-22 | - Library fix |
| 03:41.35 | Mikk | Sounds like the patch we got yesterday |
| 03:41.50 | hyperChipmunk | oh, you euro art3mis ? |
| 03:41.51 | kenlyric|home | "fixed a crash on the server" apparently isn't out yet. |
| 03:41.55 | art3mis | yeah i dont think i logged all yesterday |
| 03:41.56 | hyperChipmunk | lol |
| 03:42.03 | hyperChipmunk | ah |
| 03:42.17 | kenlyric|home | Kargath has now officially passed 20 crashes in the last two weeks. |
| 03:42.25 | art3mis | nice |
| 03:42.25 | haarm | speaking about client crashes... did putbulls LoD stuff get fixed yet? |
| 03:42.26 | hyperChipmunk | yea, they unfortunately didn't fix the right crash in the client >8\ |
| 03:42.29 | Mikk | art3mis: I logged in around midnight. Seemed mostly stable then :-P |
| 03:42.33 | Sole | are Mouse Button 4/5 valid click buttons? |
| 03:42.35 | art3mis | i dont think ours has crashed since we opened the gates of aq ;) |
| 03:42.39 | Mikk | Sole: yes |
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| 03:42.48 | art3mis | then it crashed hard |
| 03:42.59 | Mikk | haha yeah which server survived _that_ one :-P |
| 03:43.01 | kenlyric|home | art3mis: kargath hasn't had a major problem since the hardware upgrades back in mid 2006. |
| 03:43.13 | art3mis | we got bugged twin emps and one of the gms actually said well maybe you should try not crashing the server and then running aq40 |
| 03:43.17 | kenlyric|home | then we got more hardware "upgrades" two weeks ago, and it's been a shitfest since. |
| 03:43.18 | haarm | art3mis, ditto, and before that, eranikus in moonglade, where every level 1-60 druid on the server teleported |
| 03:43.20 | Sole | Mikk: so SetAttribute("type4", "spell") would be correct? |
| 03:44.04 | Mikk | THAT i do not know. I suck at secureframes =) |
| 03:44.30 | CIA-22 | 03luggy * r37745 10lugMD/ (10 files in 10 dirs): |
| 03:44.30 | CIA-22 | lugMD: |
| 03:44.30 | CIA-22 | - Deleting incorrect libraries |
| 03:45.05 | CIA-22 | 03zuno * r37746 10UnitActionBars/ (ActionButton.lua UnitActionBars.toc): |
| 03:45.05 | CIA-22 | UnitActionBars: |
| 03:45.05 | CIA-22 | - Fixed issue with timers not triggering properly |
| 03:45.16 | CIA-22 | 03luggy * r37747 10lugMD/ (PaintChips-2.0/ Roster-2.1/): |
| 03:45.16 | CIA-22 | lugMD: |
| 03:45.16 | CIA-22 | - deleting incorrect libraries |
| 03:45.41 | Mikk | Huhu, luggy's having problems :> |
| 03:46.03 | hyperChipmunk | oh my eranikus |
| 03:46.32 | Sole | Mikk: I REALLY suck at secureframes :P |
| 03:46.47 | hyperChipmunk | i SUPREMELY suck at secureframes |
| 03:46.53 | hyperChipmunk | Mikk: heh, aww poor guy |
| 03:47.07 | Sole | feking iriel |
| 03:47.10 | Mikk | There should be a rule about you having to be on IRC when you're starting to use svn |
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| 03:47.23 | hyperChipmunk | someone post the irc channel on the boards or something, yea |
| 03:47.36 | Sole | what kinda addon name is lugMD |
| 03:47.42 | Sole | I thought my Soap was mysterious |
| 03:47.45 | NightHawkTheSane | there should be a rule about idiots breathing, but we can't all get what we want |
| 03:47.55 | hyperChipmunk | it's luggy's misdirection mod |
| 03:48.00 | Sole | ah |
| 03:48.09 | hyperChipmunk | NightHawkTheSane: as you so amply demonstrate |
| 03:48.17 | sdouble | haha, told. |
| 03:48.27 | NightHawkTheSane | hyperChipmunk: indeed. |
| 03:49.02 | jwwpua | i'm using Pitbull frames and I have the estimated healing enabled, but it's not showing anything. is there something else required? |
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| 03:50.58 | Mikk | http://www.wowace.com/wiki/SVN_For_Beginners#Notes |
| 03:52.32 | rjp_ | is there a list of updated-for-2.1 modson the wiki somewhere? I can't find it :( |
| 03:52.59 | Mikk | http://www.wowace.com/wiki/Talk:SVN_Rules too |
| 03:53.15 | Mikk | rjp_: most mods don't need to be updated for 2.1. just load out-of-date ftw |
| 03:53.45 | Mikk | oh wait.. i think there is one |
| 03:54.02 | rjp_ | Mikk, the addon I am thinking of is DrDamage which won't reflect changes since the patch if i load it out of date :) |
| 03:54.15 | Mikk | http://www.wowace.com/wiki/Category:WoW_Version_2.01_Addons |
| 03:54.51 | NightHawkTheSane | er, that looks like 2.0.1, not 2.1 |
| 03:55.06 | Mikk | Well, it takes the toc number and breaks it apart |
| 03:55.27 | NightHawkTheSane | ah, yeah i can see htat |
| 03:55.45 | Gagorian | rjp_: Umm, waht? |
| 03:55.48 | Mikk | And I wrote it around 1.10 or 1.11 or so... when I didn't even see it looking funny :S |
| 03:55.51 | Gagorian | s/waht/what/ |
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| 03:56.12 | Mikk | (And no I'm not the one to ping about fixing it today. I have no idea where that script lives now, or who's keeping it up to date) |
| 03:56.13 | rjp_ | hah, regexp parser bot? |
| 03:56.32 | rjp_ | Gagorian, has DrDamage been updated with changes? |
| 03:56.44 | Gagorian | yes |
| 03:56.48 | rjp_ | awesome |
| 03:56.59 | Gagorian | one day after patch |
| 03:57.22 | Mikk | rjp_: yeah, it rips out toc files on commit and uploads to e.g. http://www.wowace.com/wiki/TOC_Data/IgnoreMore |
| 03:57.23 | rjp_ | thanks :) |
| 03:57.36 | Mikk | (Might wanna check the source on that page.. there's lots of hidden data) |
| 03:57.44 | rjp_ | Mikk, 20100 = 2.1? |
| 03:58.21 | Mikk | Yeah |
| 03:58.28 | Mikk | But it's showing it as 2.01 atm |
| 03:58.41 | Mikk | I.e. decimal-sortable |
| 03:58.42 | rjp_ | oh, okay :) i saw that on the DrDamage wiki page, and i figured that meant it hadn't been updated |
| 03:58.52 | Mikk | arf >.< |
| 04:03.26 | CIA-22 | 03luggy * r37748 10lugMD/: |
| 04:03.26 | CIA-22 | lugMD: |
| 04:03.26 | CIA-22 | - deleted |
| 04:03.57 | Funkeh` | lol |
| 04:04.04 | Funkeh` | if all else fails jsut start again? |
| 04:04.13 | ulic | it's like reinstalling windows |
| 04:04.17 | art3mis | sweet i should be getting my new machine tomorrow |
| 04:04.55 | nymbia | haha |
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| 04:06.00 | Mikk | rjp_ / NightHawkTheSane: I put in a note in the addon infobox: http://www.wowace.com/wiki/IgnoreMore |
| 04:06.22 | rjp_ | thanks :) |
| 04:06.31 | NightHawkTheSane | Mikk: good call |
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| 04:06.51 | Mikk | And in the category too, now |
| 04:06.51 | NightHawkTheSane | its a little weird, because 2.01 in versioning is often synonymous with 2.0.1 |
| 04:07.15 | Mikk | lmao @ quitmsg |
| 04:08.13 | Funkeh` | indeed |
| 04:08.15 | Mikk | luggy is havign problems with externals |
| 04:08.17 | Funkeh` | it should be 21000 |
| 04:08.30 | Mikk | The only thing he missed is actually creating the "Libs" folder |
| 04:08.48 | CIA-22 | 03luggy * r37749 10lugMD/ (18 files in 3 dirs): |
| 04:08.48 | CIA-22 | lugMD: re commit to include library folder |
| 04:08.48 | CIA-22 | - lugMD is a tool designed to assist raiding hunters coordinate their |
| 04:08.48 | CIA-22 | Misdirection (MD) abilities. It will trigger a timer bar for each hunter on all |
| 04:08.48 | CIA-22 | hunter's screens. In this way, members can clearly see targets and cooldowns. |
| 04:08.51 | Mikk | Funkeh`: 1.10 was 11000 |
| 04:09.02 | Mikk | So 21000 would make it 2.10 |
| 04:09.38 | Mikk | Oh... misdirection tool. I thought it was like Dr Norton except for the inventory :> |
| 04:09.38 | Funkeh` | not really |
| 04:09.40 | Mikk | "Lug, M.D." |
| 04:09.44 | Funkeh` | thats switching of teh decimal point |
| 04:09.51 | Funkeh` | you can't keep switching it |
| 04:10.15 | Mikk | Funkeh`: Yeah I know... some companies treat the decimal point as a real decimal point. Blizzard and some others treat it just as a separator |
| 04:10.27 | Mikk | So 2.1 = 2.01 = 2.001 |
| 04:10.37 | Mikk | And 2.123 is 121 generations newer than 2.2 |
| 04:11.07 | Mikk | I prefer the ones that treat it as a real decimal point myself :S |
| 04:11.37 | Mikk | Or at least call it like "v2 r13" so it's clear that it's not decimal |
| 04:12.22 | sedatedChipmunk | it's a separator in computer software |
| 04:12.24 | sedatedChipmunk | period |
| 04:12.40 | Mikk | erm |
| 04:12.40 | Funkeh` | literally |
| 04:12.41 | Mikk | no |
| 04:12.43 | Sedai_ | is there a better option that discord art? |
| 04:12.51 | Sedai_ | for adding graphics to one's UI? |
| 04:12.55 | sedatedChipmunk | you can't predict how many point releases between major releases there will be before you make them |
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| 04:13.08 | Mikk | Plenty of software out there where e.g. "5.01" is quite a bit older than "5.10" |
| 04:13.22 | sedatedChipmunk | if you say they're decimals, then you only get 9 minor releases between major |
| 04:13.28 | sedatedChipmunk | and that's retarded |
| 04:13.39 | Mikk | doesn't change the fact that there's plenty of companies that use that method |
| 04:13.46 | Mikk | big ones too |
| 04:13.49 | sedatedChipmunk | they're stupid |
| 04:13.51 | Mikk | microsoft.. oracle... |
| 04:14.09 | sedatedChipmunk | they're stupid! |
| 04:14.10 | Funkeh` | imo should be 5.0.1 |
| 04:14.12 | Funkeh` | etc |
| 04:14.15 | Funkeh` | then 5.1 |
| 04:14.41 | sedatedChipmunk | that makes even less sense |
| 04:14.51 | Sedai_ | is there an Ace mod that would allow me to add graphics to my UI? |
| 04:14.54 | Mikk | that's what blizzard uses |
| 04:14.55 | Mikk | :-P |
| 04:14.59 | sedatedChipmunk | no |
| 04:15.04 | Funkeh` | no its not? |
| 04:15.14 | Mikk | orly? |
| 04:15.14 | Sole | yes it is |
| 04:15.15 | sedatedChipmunk | oh, well depends on how you go |
| 04:15.19 | Sole | 2.1.XXXX |
| 04:15.25 | Funkeh` | blizzard goes beyond 5.0.9 |
| 04:15.39 | sedatedChipmunk | 5.1 being directly after 5.0.1 doesn't make sense |
| 04:15.44 | Sole | technicalities! |
| 04:15.46 | Mikk | wasn't that what you were saying that you wanted, Funkeh`? |
| 04:15.48 | sedatedChipmunk | s/directly/strictly/ |
| 04:15.59 | Funkeh` | ive confused myself now |
| 04:16.04 | Mikk | hehe |
| 04:16.06 | sedatedChipmunk | MAJOR.MINOR.DEBUG |
| 04:16.11 | sedatedChipmunk | er |
| 04:16.14 | Mikk | yeah that's nice |
| 04:16.16 | sedatedChipmunk | bugfix |
| 04:16.22 | sedatedChipmunk | not debug |
| 04:16.23 | Funkeh` | yeah |
| 04:16.31 | Mikk | with each being a variable-size proper number |
| 04:16.36 | sedatedChipmunk | correct |
| 04:16.41 | sedatedChipmunk | that's How it Should Be |
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| 04:16.48 | Mikk | not saying i disagree =) |
| 04:16.58 | sedatedChipmunk | everything else is stupid and moronic |
| 04:17.03 | Mikk | haha |
| 04:17.16 | sedatedChipmunk | thus, the chupmunk has spoken |
| 04:17.48 | sedatedChipmunk | he shall now retire to his bedchamber; good night. |
| 04:17.52 | NightHawkTheSane | pills? can i have some? like a bottle or three? |
| 04:17.58 | Mikk | nite chip =) |
| 04:18.04 | Sedai_ | Ace mod for adding graphics to one's UI? |
| 04:18.12 | Mikk | Sedai_: don't think it exists |
| 04:18.21 | Funkeh` | Sedai_: XArt |
| 04:18.23 | Sedai_ | aww :( |
| 04:18.26 | Sedai_ | hmm |
| 04:18.33 | Funkeh` | it has 1 premade art |
| 04:18.40 | Funkeh` | but you can customiza it yourself easily |
| 04:19.23 | Funkeh` | change textures and whatnot |
| 04:19.23 | Mikk | ~lart kornbluth |
| 04:19.24 | purl | whacks kornbluth upside the head |
| 04:19.24 | Mikk | ~wake purl |
| 04:19.37 | purl | ACTION throws a barrel-full of ice water on purl and shouts "GOOD MORNING!!!!" |
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| 04:19.48 | Mikk | hmm.. coffee... |
| 04:22.48 | Antiarc | Found it. Energy gains are causing negative threat, interestingly. |
| 04:23.00 | sedatedChipmunk | moron |
| 04:23.21 | Funkeh` | lol? |
| 04:23.26 | Funkeh` | how the hell did you manage that |
| 04:23.32 | Antiarc | I don't know, looking at the code now. |
| 04:23.40 | Antiarc | But my debug message fired every time I procced combat potency |
| 04:23.45 | Antiarc | That'd explain the warlock discrepancy too |
| 04:23.48 | Antiarc | Since they get gains out the ass |
| 04:24.13 | Funkeh` | anyway |
| 04:24.16 | Funkeh` | best be off |
| 04:24.18 | Funkeh` | later |
| 04:24.25 | NightHawkTheSane | o_0 |
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| 04:24.57 | nymbia | ow |
| 04:27.53 | Mikk | Antiarc: Isn't energy/mana gains only 1 threat per point gained tho? |
| 04:27.59 | Antiarc | 5 threat per, actually. |
| 04:28.02 | Antiarc | Mana is 0.5 per |
| 04:28.09 | Mikk | Ah ok |
| 04:28.13 | Mikk | Seems funny it'd cause several k jumps tho |
| 04:28.47 | Mikk | I mean.. even if combat pot restored 100, it'd be 500 threat then |
| 04:28.59 | Mikk | Ahwell.. you'll find it :> |
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| 04:29.26 | sedatedChipmunk | except combat pots restore like 3200 |
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| 04:29.56 | Mikk | combat _potency_ |
| 04:30.00 | Mikk | rogue talent |
| 04:30.14 | theoddone33 | wow |
| 04:30.15 | Mikk | restores energy |
| 04:30.20 | theoddone33 | energy gains causing threat? |
| 04:30.22 | theoddone33 | that's ridiculous |
| 04:30.30 | Mikk | theoddone33: Only unnatural gains |
| 04:30.41 | theoddone33 | like... vampiric touch? |
| 04:30.43 | NightHawkTheSane | your mom causes threat. |
| 04:30.48 | Mikk | Natural regen doesn't cause threat |
| 04:30.49 | Mikk | yeah VT causes threat |
| 04:31.02 | Mikk | or.. well.. SHOULD |
| 04:31.07 | Mikk | can't say I've actually tested it myself |
| 04:31.17 | Mikk | BoWis for instance causes threat |
| 04:31.25 | theoddone33 | so the only rogue thing that would cause threat would be the energy regen trinket I'm guessing |
| 04:31.34 | Mikk | theoddone33: combat potency |
| 04:31.35 | NightHawkTheSane | Mikk: hmm, does that mean mp/5 gear causes threat? |
| 04:31.44 | Mikk | no, not mp5 from gear |
| 04:31.51 | Mikk | It USED to cause threat for a bit there |
| 04:31.52 | theoddone33 | maybe combat potency but I'd find it hard to believe they were that ... ... contradictory |
| 04:32.04 | theoddone33 | but if you guys know it for a fact then I'll believe it |
| 04:32.04 | NightHawkTheSane | theoddone33: thistle tea and CP would both cause threat from energy regen |
| 04:32.15 | NightHawkTheSane | Mikk: hmm, okay |
| 04:32.26 | theoddone33 | forgot about tea, I'm such a bad rogue : |
| 04:32.27 | theoddone33 | ( |
| 04:32.33 | Mikk | We figured it out when two of our priests were chain raped on Razorgore back in the day, regardless of how little they were healing |
| 04:32.36 | art3mis | rad my mouse just died as i was finishing backing up my drive |
| 04:33.04 | Mikk | The old "BoWis causes threat for the pally casting it" was fun too for a while |
| 04:33.08 | Mikk | Before it got fixed |
| 04:33.21 | Mikk | Onyxia would always eat our BoWissing pally =) |
| 04:33.44 | Mikk | Then it got fixed and my warlock got eaten all the time instead :( |
| 04:34.06 | Kaydeethree | meh. I wanna go tank onyxia again at some point as my mage |
| 04:34.37 | Mikk | hehe |
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| 04:34.58 | Kaydeethree | it was a lot of fun last time. healers were bored so I got volunteered |
| 04:35.12 | Mikk | yeah strap on 10k health gear and you should be golden :P |
| 04:35.19 | Kaydeethree | so... my dps gear? |
| 04:35.38 | Mikk | that's not dps gear >.< |
| 04:35.51 | NightHawkTheSane | it is if you like not dying |
| 04:35.57 | Mikk | haha |
| 04:36.10 | rophy | any tiny addon which lists all addon's memory and CPU usage? |
| 04:36.14 | Kaydeethree | it is when I'm not bothering to pick up tailoring for spellstrike/the fire set |
| 04:36.33 | Mikk | one guildie has a glass cannon mage alt that he likes taking to gruul to prove a point. 6k health. |
| 04:36.42 | Mikk | bugger keeps surviving |
| 04:36.49 | Mikk | when people with 10k fuck up and die |
| 04:36.56 | Mikk | the point being "l2p noobs" :-P |
| 04:36.56 | Kaydeethree | hah |
| 04:36.58 | theoddone33 | ice block has to dump threat right? |
| 04:37.04 | Kaydeethree | nope |
| 04:37.09 | NightHawkTheSane | ice block is a temporary threat suspension |
| 04:37.12 | Kaydeethree | we're just not on the threat list for 10s |
| 04:37.22 | Mikk | exactly like pally bubble |
| 04:37.29 | Mikk | if the mob can't hit the #1 target, it'll go for #2 until it can |
| 04:37.54 | NightHawkTheSane | yeah, it doesnt take you off the threat list, just puts you at the bottom. if there's no one else to attack, it'll just whack at the ice block/bubble |
| 04:38.03 | Mikk | that too |
| 04:38.33 | Kaydeethree | much like the horde when I cube myself in front of the tunnel |
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| 04:39.21 | Jaxon | I'd like to thank the Doodle author for making my raid's downtime go from 2 minutes between drunken 5 man nightbane attempts to 10 |
| 04:39.30 | Antiarc | It's related to gains, but it isn't gains |
| 04:39.32 | Antiarc | Not sure what's up yet. |
| 04:39.44 | sedatedChipmunk | Antiarc: the Unknown thing happens when you summon the pet during the fight |
| 04:39.46 | Antiarc | I stopped attacking and lots 200 threat. |
| 04:39.49 | sedatedChipmunk | not sure you can do much about that |
| 04:39.49 | Mikk | Jaxon: hahaha |
| 04:40.03 | Antiarc | sedatedChipmunk: Aha, ok. I'll see if I can fix that. |
| 04:40.03 | sedatedChipmunk | Jaxon: rofl |
| 04:40.08 | sedatedChipmunk | Antiarc: it's because you don't get the name right away |
| 04:40.29 | sedatedChipmunk | if you summon him and attack immediately, he's still 'unknown' for the first few hits i suppose |
| 04:40.41 | sedatedChipmunk | hm |
| 04:40.50 | sedatedChipmunk | but his name appears correctly in the combat log |
| 04:40.55 | Mikk | he's unknown to the guy that summons him too? o.O |
| 04:41.00 | Mikk | i never saw that with my lock |
| 04:41.20 | Mikk | i see it plenty with _other_ people's pets but ... |
| 04:41.24 | sedatedChipmunk | for like a split second before it fades in |
| 04:41.26 | sedatedChipmunk | oh, yea |
| 04:41.34 | sedatedChipmunk | i've seen it when i log in |
| 04:41.40 | Mikk | that i'll believe |
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| 04:42.53 | sedatedChipmunk | his name shows up |
| 04:42.54 | Gagorian | jwwpua: Well, I got an accurate formula for rank 1 now |
| 04:43.04 | Gagorian | But it's weird as hell :P |
| 04:43.05 | sedatedChipmunk | i'm guessing the api function he uses to decide doesn't catch it |
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| 04:47.34 | BankZ | Does Pitbull lag anyone else out? |
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| 04:49.16 | Sole | "/target Sole /cast Stealth" doesnt work when I set it as a macro attribute for my gladiator buttons, but it works when I put it into a macro and put it on a button, hmm |
| 04:49.32 | Sole | it gets to the target, doesnt cast stealth though |
| 04:49.34 | Sole | even on repeated clicks |
| 04:49.45 | Sole | Im guessing because it doesnt keep track of how times its been clicked? |
| 04:50.06 | Mikk | does _anything_? o.O |
| 04:51.50 | Gagorian | I hate blizzard |
| 04:51.56 | Gagorian | This doesn't make any sense, ffs |
| 04:52.28 | Gagorian | For the first application of healing way, instead of boosting spelldamage bonus by 6% like it should.. it boosts by 5.4% |
| 04:52.30 | Gagorian | 10% penalty |
| 04:52.54 | sedatedChipmunk | nobody cares |
| 04:52.58 | CIA-22 | 03zealotonastick * r37752 10XRS/XRS.toc: XRS - .toc bump to 20100 |
| 04:53.00 | sedatedChipmunk | shamans ftl |
| 04:53.22 | Mikk | Gagorian: are you stripping nude before testing downranking? |
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| 04:53.54 | sedatedChipmunk | bow chicka bow wow |
| 04:53.54 | Gagorian | If I was nude I couldn't event test it |
| 04:53.54 | Gagorian | For the next application of healing way it has a 15% penalty |
| 04:53.54 | Gagorian | then for the next 20% |
| 04:54.00 | Gagorian | And it's for each rank of healing wave |
| 04:54.09 | Mikk | i'm just wondering if what you're seeing is the results of downranking penalties |
| 04:54.19 | Mikk | and they wouldn't exist if you're not wearing any +heal |
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| 04:54.38 | Mikk | otoh if you're testing max rank it shouldn't apply either |
| 04:54.50 | Gagorian | Indeed |
| 04:55.07 | Gagorian | Also, healing way bonus doesn't get any downranking effects |
| 04:55.12 | Gagorian | which makes it very powerful on low ranks |
| 04:55.38 | Gagorian | It just gets a small penalty which isn't listed anywhere that grows for each application on every rank of healing wave |
| 04:56.03 | sedatedChipmunk | nobody cares |
| 04:56.06 | sedatedChipmunk | shamans ftl |
| 04:56.28 | Mikk | Or put another way: Healing Way does less than it's supposed to for each rank. But has a small initial bonus for the first application. |
| 04:56.43 | Mikk | I forget... why are you testing this again? o.O |
| 04:56.50 | sedatedChipmunk | nobody cares |
| 04:56.51 | sedatedChipmunk | shamans ftl |
| 04:56.59 | Mikk | go sleep already chip =P |
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| 04:57.08 | Gagorian | Base damage is boosted properly 6%, 12% and 18%. But additive +healing is 5.4%, 10.8% and 16.8% |
| 04:57.11 | sedatedChipmunk | i'm not chip |
| 04:57.13 | sedatedChipmunk | i'm a bot |
| 04:57.18 | sedatedChipmunk | nobody cares |
| 04:57.19 | sedatedChipmunk | shamans ftl |
| 04:57.38 | Gagorian | Well, I'm not even a shaman.. but I will have to listen to shamans crying if I don't fix DrDamage |
| 04:57.39 | Gagorian | :P |
| 04:57.44 | Mikk | Ah, DrDamage |
| 04:58.14 | Mikk | I was thinking that this was related to Threat for a bit there, but then I wondered wth the problem was since all you had to do was read the combatlog :-P |
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| 04:58.30 | Gagorian | :p |
| 04:58.52 | Gagorian | DrDamage could have a pretty accurate threatmeter. Just grab the calculated avg damage of each spellcast |
| 04:59.09 | Gagorian | A few threat multipliers and that's it! |
| 04:59.17 | Mikk | Who needs estimates when you have live numbers? :-P |
| 04:59.19 | Gagorian | Over a longer period of time it would be accurate ;) |
| 04:59.40 | Mikk | Plus it wouldn't take into account overhealing, veil of shadow, etc etc :-P |
| 04:59.41 | KarlThePagan | I just turned on profiling and KTM eats a ton of cpu |
| 04:59.48 | Gagorian | Well, ok would need to calcualate resist percentage! |
| 04:59.51 | Mikk | KarlThePagan: This is not news =) |
| 04:59.55 | Mikk | Gagorian: lal |
| 04:59.59 | KarlThePagan | hehe |
| 05:00.02 | sedatedChipmunk | nobody cares |
| 05:00.05 | sedatedChipmunk | shamans ftl |
| 05:00.09 | Mikk | KTM ftl |
| 05:00.09 | Sole | HAY HAY |
| 05:00.11 | Sole | calm down |
| 05:00.11 | KarlThePagan | wtb oRA2 module for KTM |
| 05:00.18 | Sole | let me guess |
| 05:00.21 | sedatedChipmunk | he programmed me in LOLCODE |
| 05:00.25 | sedatedChipmunk | i hate myself =( |
| 05:00.33 | Mikk | KarlThePagan: you're not aware that there's a threatlib project running? |
| 05:00.35 | Sole | your guild forces you to use it? |
| 05:00.39 | ckknight | ugh, 14 hour workdays aren't as fun as they're made out to be |
| 05:00.40 | Mikk | started like 5 days ago |
| 05:00.48 | ckknight | hey all |
| 05:00.50 | Sole | hi ck |
| 05:00.57 | KarlThePagan | Mikk, protocol compatability |
| 05:01.05 | Sole | whats your job? |
| 05:01.17 | sedatedChipmunk | your compatibility just came home from work |
| 05:01.26 | Sole | ^ |
| 05:01.27 | KarlThePagan | course... i guess it doesn't matter |
| 05:01.34 | Arrowmaster | compatability would only work with ktm mastertarget set i think |
| 05:01.35 | Mikk | KarlThePagan: Easily solved. Force everyone to switch, since ThreatLib handles multiple targets and eats 5% of the CPU time that KTM does. :-P |
| 05:01.45 | Sole | why would you want compatability with KTM anyway? |
| 05:01.48 | ckknight | that's a gross overstatement, Mikk |
| 05:01.56 | art3mis | ckk servers spam and pinapples on the ebach to fat greasy japanese businessmen |
| 05:01.58 | ckknight | it's about 1% as far as I could tell |
| 05:02.03 | art3mis | serves |
| 05:02.03 | Sole | LOL |
| 05:02.04 | sedatedChipmunk | ckknight: understatement |
| 05:02.12 | ckknight | no, sedatedChipmunk |
| 05:02.12 | Mikk | no, over |
| 05:02.16 | Mikk | i overstated threatlibs' cpu usage |
| 05:02.18 | KarlThePagan | KTM was using 4-5% on my machine |
| 05:02.23 | sedatedChipmunk | especially if you consider the ENTIRE time it runs |
| 05:02.28 | sedatedChipmunk | oh, yea |
| 05:02.35 | ckknight | KTM was about 10% for me, Omen about 0.1% |
| 05:02.38 | sedatedChipmunk | but you understated its benefit |
| 05:02.42 | ckknight | Omen + Threat, I mean |
| 05:02.44 | Mikk | true |
| 05:02.45 | sedatedChipmunk | by a longshot |
| 05:02.46 | ckknight | alright, gotta shower |
| 05:02.52 | Sole | PIX PLZ |
| 05:03.03 | sedatedChipmunk | like i said, especially if you accout for all that non-raid time it runs =P |
| 05:03.04 | art3mis | woo Spaceboots and Double D's |
| 05:03.09 | art3mis | god i love porn movie names |
| 05:03.10 | Mikk | http://mikk.cjb.net/fun/nelf-cameltoe.jpg |
| 05:03.11 | Mikk | there ya go |
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| 05:03.19 | Sole | rofl art3mis |
| 05:04.19 | art3mis | mikk: that would hav3e been funnier if it was a tubgirl or meatspin or goatse redirect ;P |
| 05:04.27 | Mikk | haha |
| 05:04.44 | Mikk | wonder if i have the funny-car-crash.jpg still left |
| 05:04.50 | Mikk | renamed tubgirl |
| 05:04.59 | art3mis | heh |
| 05:05.01 | Mikk | got people on the work irc channel to watch it over breakfast |
| 05:05.05 | Mikk | they wanted to murder me |
| 05:05.11 | art3mis | i used to have this link to some horrific porn |
| 05:05.22 | art3mis | was macroed in my mud client and ive never once looked at it |
| 05:05.35 | art3mis | but appearantly it was offensive |
| 05:05.40 | ZealotOnAStick | art3mis: our guild website has a redirect for one of the member names to lemonparty |
| 05:06.02 | art3mis | oen of the imms used to think shitcity.com was hilarious |
| 05:06.13 | art3mis | yet somehow my link scarred him ;P |
| 05:06.20 | Mikk | rofl. lemonparty |
| 05:06.24 | art3mis | ZealotOnAStick: aand fonetap ;) |
| 05:06.35 | Mikk | ok i never saw that before |
| 05:06.53 | art3mis | i think tis fonetap.com or .org or something |
| 05:06.59 | Mikk | granted, it doesn't make me want to go out n have sex but .. erm ... tubgirl >>>>>>>>>>> lemonparty |
| 05:07.39 | art3mis | when napster was old i found this one file called "oh god stop.mp3" |
| 05:08.01 | art3mis | it was basically the audio of a chick throwing up hearing it spltter on the floor and then her slurping it up over and over |
| 05:08.15 | ZealotOnAStick | Hrm. What nationality is Jerry? |
| 05:08.22 | art3mis | the mouse? |
| 05:08.26 | art3mis | i think he's french |
| 05:09.00 | NightHawkTheSane | for a minute i thought you said 'what nationality is jersey', and was going to laugh |
| 05:09.14 | art3mis | hah |
| 05:09.19 | art3mis | thats still pretty funny night |
| 05:09.24 | NightHawkTheSane | hell yes it is |
| 05:09.25 | art3mis | ive often onwdered that |
| 05:09.28 | art3mis | wondered |
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| 05:10.43 | art3mis | there was no palce left to put the garbage, the sewers were full, the landfuill was full new jersey was full |
| 05:11.04 | art3mis | so under the cover of night they loaded all the garbage on a barge and set it out to sea |
| 05:11.18 | art3mis | and the funny thing is somehow i can see that happening |
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| 05:12.29 | CIA-22 | 03gagorian * r37753 10DrDamage/ (Data/Shaman.lua DrDamage.lua): |
| 05:12.29 | CIA-22 | DrDamage: |
| 05:12.30 | CIA-22 | - Fix for healing way (+healing bonuses per rank 5.4%, 10.5% and 15.6%) |
| 05:12.30 | CIA-22 | - A few other fixes on lines ~235x |
| 05:12.33 | art3mis | http://alienlovespredator.com/index.php?id=1 for anyone thats never read this terrific comic |
| 05:12.52 | CIA-22 | 03zealotonastick * r37754 10FuBar_TimerFu/Locales/enUS.lua: |
| 05:12.52 | CIA-22 | FuBar_TimerFu - |
| 05:12.52 | CIA-22 | Fix misspellings in enUS locale file for hint. |
| 05:13.07 | art3mis | writers note: One day I heard an announcement that there'd be a delay due to track work, only I misheard it through the crappy speaker as "due to Kraftwerk" and I'm like, yeah, I guess if they were playing again I'd stop a train to go to see 'em. |
| 05:13.59 | art3mis | http://alienlovespredator.com/?id=12 if you live in nyc this one is the best |
| 05:14.26 | art3mis | i ordered chinese food the other night and swear to god the time elapsed from me hanging up the fone to them arriving was 6 minutes |
| 05:14.33 | art3mis | and they're 14 blocks away |
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| 05:14.41 | art3mis | not to mention cooking time |
| 05:14.46 | jwwpua | Gagorian: how'd you find those figures for healing way? |
| 05:14.58 | Gagorian | Spam + blizzard logic math |
| 05:15.19 | Gagorian | Borrowed my friends shaman |
| 05:15.25 | jwwpua | nice |
| 05:15.38 | Gagorian | calculation.addSpellDmgM + apps * 0.054 - ( apps - 1 ) * 0.003 |
| 05:15.42 | Gagorian | formula if you're interested |
| 05:15.44 | Gagorian | :p |
| 05:15.44 | [Liquidor] | I got a string = "(P)" and would like to find out if that string is to be found in another string, but if I use string.find(str2, str) it belives I use the parantees as parameters, how do I make it ignore that? |
| 05:16.03 | jwwpua | lol |
| 05:16.08 | art3mis | escapes dumbie |
| 05:16.11 | [Liquidor] | but |
| 05:16.12 | jwwpua | 0.003 ? random |
| 05:16.17 | Gagorian | not really |
| 05:16.17 | [Liquidor] | the string isn't fixed |
| 05:16.27 | Gagorian | 0.003 is 5% of the initial bonus |
| 05:16.30 | art3mis | "\(P\)" |
| 05:16.35 | art3mis | or something close to that |
| 05:16.39 | [Liquidor] | but |
| 05:16.42 | [Liquidor] | again |
| 05:16.51 | [Liquidor] | the string isn't fixed (written directly in the file) |
| 05:16.51 | Gagorian | so that's technically 0.06*0.9 + 0.06*0.85 + 0.06*0.8 for max applications |
| 05:16.57 | jwwpua | ah ok |
| 05:17.02 | Gagorian | it's just gets less efficient per each application |
| 05:17.10 | Gagorian | s/'s// |
| 05:17.15 | art3mis | but you're only concerned with finding instances of (P) in that file right? |
| 05:17.24 | [Liquidor] | okay I'll try again |
| 05:17.58 | [Liquidor] | I'm giving the user the oppertunity to respond on whispers with a keyword. However if they use "(P)" as keyword it all messes up. |
| 05:18.07 | ckknight | and done with said shower |
| 05:18.20 | [Liquidor] | since the strfind function takes that as a regexp |
| 05:18.35 | art3mis | right |
| 05:18.38 | art3mis | and? |
| 05:19.12 | art3mis | you need to escape the ('s if you're gonna use em in a string sot aht \(P\) == (P) |
| 05:19.17 | Gagorian | ckknight: How much slower is a local table field lookup compared to local var? |
| 05:19.27 | [Liquidor] | strfind("Hello player. Here is what you need: (p)", "(p)"), that gives me an undesired result |
| 05:19.30 | art3mis | granted that not the right syntax but the method is correct |
| 05:19.46 | ckknight | Gagorian: one GETTABLE slower. |
| 05:19.54 | art3mis | i dont know how much clearer i can make it for you |
| 05:20.18 | [Liquidor] | But how do I escape data that I don't write myself? Is a string replace enough? |
| 05:20.19 | ckknight | [Liquidor]: "%(p%)" |
| 05:20.42 | art3mis | ckknight: geez took you long enough |
| 05:21.02 | art3mis | usually yer right up there when i give bad information ;) |
| 05:21.16 | [Liquidor] | So I need to inform the player that he has to escape several marks in order to use them in his "keyword" ? |
| 05:21.23 | art3mis | its the law of irc don't blame me ;P |
| 05:21.33 | Gagorian | tbh |
| 05:21.35 | art3mis | nope you need to look at what ckk said |
| 05:21.37 | art3mis | ;) |
| 05:21.40 | Gagorian | the next addon I make will be exact science |
| 05:21.42 | ckknight | [Liquidor]: well, ( and ) are special, so to make them normal characters, you have to escape them |
| 05:21.48 | Gagorian | no fucking blizz theoryweirdness |
| 05:21.52 | ckknight | Gagorian: programming is a craft |
| 05:22.01 | Mikk | Gagorian: I think you can change that formula to something less messy |
| 05:22.08 | [Liquidor] | ckknight, I know. But again, should I escape them with a string replacement? |
| 05:22.13 | ckknight | yes. |
| 05:22.17 | Gagorian | Mikk: Of course I can but it doesn't matter |
| 05:22.18 | [Liquidor] | Otherwise how am I supposed to escape them? |
| 05:22.19 | [Liquidor] | Ok |
| 05:22.48 | art3mis | gagorian: go make me an ingame addon installer and configurator that is easy to setup and configure for eprsonal use(kind of like mazzles only less tailor for specific crap) |
| 05:22.50 | [Liquidor] | Escaping with % or \ ? Since you both came up with 2 diff characters |
| 05:23.00 | ckknight | I'm right. |
| 05:23.04 | art3mis | [Liquidor]: yes but ia dmitted iw as wrong ;P |
| 05:23.21 | art3mis | \ works in c |
| 05:23.24 | art3mis | % in lua |
| 05:23.38 | art3mis | c im half decent with |
| 05:23.43 | art3mis | lua im not ;P |
| 05:23.50 | [Liquidor] | ( and ) won't affect the string replacement as with a string find? -.- |
| 05:24.07 | ckknight | dude, %( translates to literal ( |
| 05:24.13 | ckknight | that's all you need to know |
| 05:24.44 | Gagorian | art3mis: Doesn't sound too fun. :l |
| 05:24.51 | art3mis | lies! |
| 05:24.54 | art3mis | its tons of fun |
| 05:25.22 | art3mis | imagine how thankful everyone will be to be able to say to a guildie "here chuckles copy these into yer addons folder so you're the same as the rest of the guild for raiding" |
| 05:25.40 | art3mis | then answer questions absed on class |
| 05:25.41 | art3mis | heh |
| 05:25.49 | art3mis | based |
| 05:25.55 | [Liquidor] | Isn't there an option for string.find not to take it as a reg.exp? Otherwise I have to escape all characters available as reg.exp. :/ |
| 05:26.03 | art3mis | complete with winder placement et al |
| 05:26.11 | ckknight | [Liquidor]: oh yea, there is |
| 05:26.21 | ckknight | [Liquidor]: just http://www.lua.org/pil - srsly |
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| 05:27.00 | *** mode/#wowace [+o Kaelten] by ChanServ |
| 05:27.00 | Cyrez | Public SVN still stuck? |
| 05:27.01 | art3mis | hi kael! |
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| 05:27.01 | art3mis | watchout sparhawk is ehre |
| 05:27.01 | art3mis | here |
| 05:27.01 | art3mis | and last i read you two don't get along |
| 05:27.17 | art3mis | speaking of which has eddings put out anything good to read lately |
| 05:27.26 | art3mis | last i read was althas |
| 05:27.31 | art3mis | or whatever |
| 05:27.33 | Kaelten | hi |
| 05:27.43 | Kaelten | was waiting on renchap :s |
| 05:27.45 | Mikk | art3mis: the dreamers series |
| 05:27.46 | Mikk | bit lame tho |
| 05:27.57 | art3mis | like slow lame? |
| 05:27.57 | Gagorian | Hurmm. Gief += and -= from C# to lua :P |
| 05:28.04 | Mikk | give the guy a break tho.. he's.. what .. 75? |
| 05:28.05 | Gagorian | oh how many variables less I would have to type |
| 05:28.05 | art3mis | or not as funny./spellcrafty lame |
| 05:28.25 | ZealotOnAStick | Getting my guild leader (finally) converted over to almost all Ace2 stuff. |
| 05:28.36 | ZealotOnAStick | He was still running *shudder* TitanPanel |
| 05:28.44 | Kaelten | lol |
| 05:28.45 | art3mis | see zealot now if gag would go make my installer... that would be simple ;P |
| 05:28.48 | Mikk | art3mis: That's called a mod pack. |
| 05:29.02 | art3mis | yes but most mod packs dont setup the winders and crap properly |
| 05:29.08 | art3mis | without having to replace yer wtf |
| 05:29.09 | Mikk | And I wouldn't mind a well made one myself |
| 05:29.19 | Gagorian | But everything is so based on preference, resolution etc. |
| 05:29.24 | art3mis | exactly |
| 05:29.32 | art3mis | but the res is fixed for the most part |
| 05:29.39 | art3mis | and easy enough to make clones |
| 05:29.51 | art3mis | as for layouts, just little pictures of generics is fine |
| 05:30.17 | art3mis | but for most guild/raiding addons they could simple be set all in the same place, including raidgroups etc |
| 05:30.27 | art3mis | then at elast everyones running the same crap |
| 05:30.38 | ZealotOnAStick | Mazz does a decent job with hers. |
| 05:30.42 | art3mis | and with wau/wuu it all gets updated properly |
| 05:30.45 | ZealotOnAStick | It's just . . . invasive as all fuck. |
| 05:30.45 | art3mis | yeah |
| 05:31.02 | art3mis | the one thing i really dont like about mazz's is the choice of addons |
| 05:31.24 | art3mis | hence the need for the "installer" to allow for custom settings for what addons and layour saving etc |
| 05:31.29 | art3mis | to make distro good |
| 05:31.34 | art3mis | good==easy |
| 05:31.45 | renchap | Kaelten: iam here |
| 05:31.55 | art3mis | i think it would be a great project |
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| 05:32.21 | art3mis | as well as a bwoser that lets you read up on ace2 addons from the site, tag some for download through wau |
| 05:32.51 | art3mis | so say you go oo i need pitbull.. you tick it and it does some mojo to set wau to download pitbull next time its installed |
| 05:33.03 | art3mis | and then on load it disables the other unitframes and loads pitbull automagically |
| 05:33.23 | art3mis | all in game(the search and selection i mean) |
| 05:34.23 | art3mis | and then a "save" function that allows for distro by saving the settings/layout and addons to a folder which then when packaged externally will "install" with those settings just by typing in your name and realm |
| 05:34.29 | art3mis | wiow i ahve gandioise plans |
| 05:34.30 | Sparhawke | lol |
| 05:34.55 | art3mis | you cant tell me that that wouldnt be completely awesome |
| 05:34.55 | Gagorian | ... :> |
| 05:35.29 | art3mis | a lot of work, but totally awesome ;P |
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| 05:36.10 | ZealotOnAStick | Antiarc or other Omen/Threat folks: ace.pastey.net/46379 - happened when Guild leader was in a raid and I joined the raid. |
| 05:36.13 | Sole | ok Ive identified my macro problemo |
| 05:36.23 | Sole | the bitch is a one liner with 2 commands, WoW dont like that |
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| 05:37.12 | Sole | I just cant figure out a way to do button:SetAttribute("macrotext2", "/target Sole <NEWLINE> /cast Stealth") :( |
| 05:37.13 | art3mis | and besides gagorian you did say exact science, heh no more thoeory in that whole idea ;P |
| 05:37.14 | Sole | halp |
| 05:37.42 | art3mis | can't you break it with ;'s? |
| 05:37.46 | Antiarc | ZealotOnAStick: Should be fixed when you update next |
| 05:37.59 | art3mis | i thought ; was the macro new line |
| 05:38.05 | art3mis | err enter |
| 05:38.08 | art3mis | not new line |
| 05:38.14 | [Liquidor] | ckknight, couldn't find the answer I needed reading pil or searching with google, but asked in #lua and you're more than welcome to give an answer I can use -- "srsly" |
| 05:38.15 | CIA-22 | 03tsigo * r37755 10Cutup/modules/Julienne.lua: Cutup_Julienne: Use SUCCEEDED rather than SENT, should prevent the rare false positive. |
| 05:38.40 | ckknight | [Liquidor]: I just worked a 14-hour day. You dicking around doesn't help me |
| 05:39.11 | Sole | Liquidor just got owned |
| 05:39.17 | [Liquidor] | Ye well, it's not everyone who doesn't do researching before asking. I was kind and asked if ppl could help me out - srsly |
| 05:39.25 | Sole | art3mis: I tried ; but they didnt help |
| 05:39.38 | [Liquidor] | Don't care if I get owned, edickslapped or anything else as long as I get this particulary issue solve |
| 05:39.39 | [Liquidor] | +d |
| 05:39.42 | Sole | can I srsly every time I say something too? |
| 05:40.00 | Sole | s/I/I say/ |
| 05:40.27 | [Liquidor] | Sole, Don't know. Read the channel rules... oh read pil. That should help |
| 05:40.51 | Sole | ooh feisty |
| 05:41.55 | NightHawkTheSane | I think someone needs a nap |
| 05:41.55 | Sole | srsly |
| 05:41.55 | ZealotOnAStick | Antiarc: great |
| 05:41.56 | ZealotOnAStick | Ominous: ping |
| 05:42.27 | Phroon | I'm trying to learn how to Mod, I've been through WelcomeHome but where can I go next? Most places I go seem to be either developer resources or beginners guides, I need something to move me between the two. Any thoughts or suggestions? |
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| 05:44.26 | [Liquidor] | Phroon, create something you need. |
| 05:45.14 | Sole | Phroon: first think of a project you wish to start, preferrably small |
| 05:45.17 | Sole | then begin working on it |
| 05:45.29 | Sole | make it fairly simple on yourself, so you get the hang of how it all fits together first |
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| 05:45.54 | Sole | the beginners guides are enough to give you a base to work from (intro to ace2 up on the wiki is a good one) |
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| 05:46.24 | Sole | http://www.wowwiki.com/World_of_Warcraft_API bookmark that site too |
| 05:46.35 | Sole | it has a lot of info and the pages it links to are valuable also |
| 05:47.08 | Sole | like all the WoW events, widget api, basically thats my handbook when coding and Im stuck :P |
| 05:49.15 | Phroon | I think a lot of my problem is wrapping my head around the ideas. Maybe I just need to sit down with the code of a simple Ace addon and understand how it works. |
| 05:49.25 | Sole | thats always a good start |
| 05:49.35 | art3mis | http://www.lua.org/manual/5.1/manual.html#pdf-string.gmatch |
| 05:49.48 | art3mis | your answer is on that page liquid |
| 05:50.18 | art3mis | somewhere around 5.4.1 |
| 05:50.29 | Sole | if youre struggling to wrap your head around how you should approach a problem, write down the steps the function should take, its easier to visualize it like that |
| 05:50.30 | Antiarc | KTM doesn't count Deadly Poison ticks towards a rogue's threat. |
| 05:50.37 | CIA-22 | 03scorpio0920 * r37756 10LittleWigs/TempestKeep/ (Capacitus.lua Ironhand.lua): LittleWigs: Update zhTW |
| 05:50.42 | art3mis | thats because rogues suck ;P |
| 05:50.52 | art3mis | ktm has a "class_sucks" filter |
| 05:51.20 | Sole | art3mis: you were right about ; I just used it like this "/target Sole; /cast Stealth;" instead of "/target Sole ; /cast Stealth" |
| 05:51.59 | Phroon | I learn a lot just by reading chat in here. |
| 05:52.01 | Phroon | :D |
| 05:52.28 | Sole | :P |
| 05:52.31 | Mikk | Antiarc: bluh? |
| 05:52.36 | CIA-22 | 03antiarc * r37757 10Threat-1.0/ (4 files in 3 dirs): |
| 05:52.37 | CIA-22 | Threat-1.0: |
| 05:52.37 | CIA-22 | - Fixed a bug that could cause threat to "jump around" when gaining mana/rage/energy or healing |
| 05:52.38 | CIA-22 | - Optimized the PublishLocale() conditions |
| 05:52.38 | CIA-22 | - Added Babble-Boss |
| 05:52.42 | Mikk | Why the hell wouldn't it count poison? That's just.... lol? |
| 05:52.51 | Antiarc | Mikk: Shiv a 5-stack of Deadly onto a target. Stop attacking. KTM doesn't tick up even though the poison does damage |
| 05:53.11 | Mikk | But there's nice combat messages say you do damage |
| 05:53.22 | Antiarc | Yup. |
| 05:53.26 | Mikk | He'd like... have to explicitly ignore poison messages |
| 05:53.53 | Mikk | Or hm.. not listen to the right event type |
| 05:53.57 | art3mis | sole: woo |
| 05:54.26 | Antiarc | Instant Poison works |
| 05:54.31 | Antiarc | So it's not its status as a poison |
| 05:54.34 | Antiarc | TRying Rupture |
| 05:54.39 | Sole | art3mis: by the way, I know I can find out by scouring through PIL but we're all friends here so dont get angry now. Why is the + required in (%w+) ? |
| 05:55.00 | Mikk | "+" means "1 or more matches" |
| 05:55.25 | Jaxon | Its a quantifier. |
| 05:55.27 | Sole | aha |
| 05:55.31 | Antiarc | It counts Garrote |
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| 05:56.41 | Antiarc | It counts Rupture |
| 05:56.44 | Antiarc | But not Deadly. Odd. |
| 05:58.54 | art3mis | sole: i know very little about lua in general, i just make assumptions absed on description and behavior of snippets ;P |
| 05:59.03 | Sole | art3mis: ok :P |
| 06:00.01 | xlvii | 2.1.0.6729, what does it change? |
| 06:00.38 | art3mis | client side crash |
| 06:00.51 | art3mis | aka blizzard acknowledged fuckup ;P |
| 06:01.26 | Mikk | Antiarc: It's counting my deadly |
| 06:02.11 | Mikk | Was showing 35 tps with 1 application of deadly ticking |
| 06:02.12 | Mikk | Deadly V fwiw |
| 06:02.49 | Mikk | Deadly ticks are CHAG_MSG_SPELL_PERIODIC_CREATURE_DAMAGE |
| 06:03.17 | Mikk | Garrotte is the same |
| 06:03.48 | CIA-22 | 03antiarc * r37758 10Omen/Omen.lua: Omen: Updated target name text so it's proper when you're proxied to a target, and changed numbers display to two decimals precison. |
| 06:03.54 | Antiarc | Mikk: What version? |
| 06:04.04 | Antiarc | I've got 19.18 |
| 06:04.38 | art3mis | wow! |
| 06:04.43 | art3mis | TWO decimals? |
| 06:04.51 | art3mis | HOLY MACKEREL! |
| 06:05.09 | Mikk | 19.16 here |
| 06:05.16 | Antiarc | Huh, now Deadly is ticking for me. Definitely wasn't a moment ago. |
| 06:05.42 | Mikk | i'm only getting applied to one stack cause i'm fighting level20something mobs and don't have shiv :> |
| 06:06.23 | Antiarc | Huh |
| 06:06.27 | Antiarc | *shrug* |
| 06:06.41 | Antiarc | Maybe the polling missed it. Wouldn't THAT be ironic :P |
| 06:06.46 | Mikk | hahaha |
| 06:07.34 | Mikk | next question: does the rogue threat multiplier apply to poisons? |
| 06:07.41 | Mikk | KTM is threating it as 100% threat |
| 06:07.48 | Mikk | treating* |
| 06:08.02 | Mikk | same with garrotte |
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| 06:09.13 | Mikk | hm i take that back |
| 06:09.30 | Sole | pretty sure rogue threat multiplier applies to everything |
| 06:09.38 | Sole | because we're very very sneaky |
| 06:10.19 | Mikk | yeah i misread somehow |
| 06:10.58 | ZealotOnAStick | Got another one for you in a minute Antiarc, not sure if it's fixed yet or not. And not entirely sure how to reproduce it. |
| 06:12.20 | Mikk | fuck's sake |
| 06:12.35 | Mikk | when did damagemeters get window size dragging support |
| 06:12.41 | Mikk | here i've been cursing its lack of it for god knows how long |
| 06:12.45 | Mikk | and now i misclick and realize it has it |
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| 06:13.28 | Mikk | Nargiddley: y00. i moved most of my crap in baggins out to a separate file if you didn't notice already |
| 06:13.42 | Mikk | Figured it'd be a good idea since it's not exactly core baggins functionality |
| 06:13.44 | Gokie | it's had it for a long time... the last time I used DamageMeters was at least 8 or 10 months ago, and I'm pretty sure it had resize back then |
| 06:13.59 | Mikk | Gokie: Sigh. Ok. I just suck then. |
| 06:15.32 | Gokie | hehe |
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| 06:15.53 | Sole | lol taken from lua-users.org wiki on string manipulation: "See also SplitJoin, MakingLuaLikePhp (explode). " |
| 06:16.25 | ZealotOnAStick | Ooh. |
| 06:16.33 | ZealotOnAStick | New version number colum on WAU. |
| 06:18.24 | ZealotOnAStick | Antiarc: ace.pastey.net/46424 |
| 06:20.59 | ZealotOnAStick | though it doesn't seem to want to save the spacing settings, resulting in the version numbers getting truncated. |
| 06:21.06 | ZealotOnAStick | annoying to manually adjust that slider each time. |
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| 06:27.53 | Sedai_ | hmm |
| 06:28.03 | ZealotOnAStick | Yay. |
| 06:28.17 | ZealotOnAStick | Guild leader all outfitted now. CT-free, Titan-free . . . |
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| 06:28.23 | ZealotOnAStick | Is good. |
| 06:28.24 | Sedai_ | Hmm, am I missing it? |
| 06:28.36 | Sedai_ | Is there a "grow" option in ElkBuffBars? |
| 06:29.09 | Sedai_ | i want the buffs to "grow" up instead of "down" |
| 06:29.17 | Sedai_ | does that make sense? |
| 06:30.31 | NightHawkTheSane | yeah, i want my buffs to grow up too. stupid childish buffs. |
| 06:31.13 | Sedai_ | lol |
| 06:32.07 | Sedai_ | Elkano = creator of ElkBuffBars? |
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| 06:33.30 | NightHawkTheSane | thats an astute observation. |
| 06:33.36 | Elkano | Sedai_: EBB or EBBs? |
| 06:34.19 | Elkano | Mikk: wiki templates are the evil, aren't they? ;) |
| 06:34.51 | CIA-22 | 03mikk * r37759 10Baggins/ (Baggins.lua Baggins_ItemOps.lua): Baggins: Ok, no more needless delaying on bag updates. We only delay processing a lot while in combat with bags closed now. (Yeah, bloody hunter arrow issue again, or we wouldn't have to worry at all..) |
| 06:35.33 | Mikk | Elkano: Ones that try to be code, yes :-P |
| 06:35.58 | Mikk | (I.e. anything written by Tekkub) |
| 06:36.19 | Tekkub | I know nothing of *that* template |
| 06:36.28 | Elkano | I remember myself trying to get a space in that template... I think I failed... |
| 06:37.59 | Mikk | Tekkub: We're talking about {{Addon Infobox}} ... slight fubar by me there... I just string splitted the toc number |
| 06:38.03 | Mikk | So now it's saying "2.01" |
| 06:38.07 | Mikk | And people are getting confused |
| 06:38.21 | Tekkub | ^^ gg |
| 06:38.36 | Mikk | Well, this was after 1.10. Everything looked fine :-P |
| 06:39.53 | NightHawkTheSane | Mikk: hmm, so how's this compression stuff in baggins supposed to work? I don't see any icon, but yet i can clearly see things that need restacking :P |
| 06:40.14 | CIA-22 | 03mikk * r37760 10Baggins/Baggins.lua: Baggins: .... aaaand remove the debug message too. *sigh* |
| 06:40.51 | Mikk | NightHawkTheSane: Aeuhmm you're supposed to get an icon in the top right hand corner |
| 06:40.56 | Mikk | Whenever something is non-optimally stacked |
| 06:41.01 | NightHawkTheSane | i.. don't. |
| 06:41.13 | Mikk | uh oh |
| 06:41.29 | Mikk | oh wait |
| 06:41.31 | Mikk | you just updated without restarting wow? |
| 06:41.38 | Mikk | i moved it out to a separate file |
| 06:41.45 | Mikk | new file |
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| 06:42.09 | NightHawkTheSane | well, i updated and then started wow. |
| 06:42.26 | NightHawkTheSane | but i update from files.wowace, so the zip's probably not the most recent |
| 06:42.30 | Mikk | check your baggins dir. Is there a Baggins_ItemOps .lua there? |
| 06:43.04 | Mikk | If there isn't, chances are files are lagging behind again |
| 06:43.04 | NightHawkTheSane | yes, there is |
| 06:43.04 | Mikk | s/are/is/ |
| 06:43.05 | Mikk | damnit |
| 06:43.24 | Mikk | and chances are that purl is laggy as hell |
| 06:43.28 | Mikk | NightHawkTheSane: Try moving something around in your bags |
| 06:43.42 | Mikk | It could be that it's missing out on checking the first time |
| 06:44.01 | Mikk | Or heck, split a stack of something |
| 06:44.03 | NightHawkTheSane | well i went to the bank and grabbed a bunch of stuff from there, still nothing |
| 06:44.12 | Mikk | That should certainly do it |
| 06:44.16 | Mikk | Split a stack of water or soemthing? |
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| 06:44.26 | NightHawkTheSane | yeah, i split a stack of fish scales and it finally popped up |
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| 06:44.39 | Mikk | And when you compress...? |
| 06:44.46 | Mikk | Still look like something needs to be stacked? |
| 06:44.46 | NightHawkTheSane | .. it only restacked the scales i just split |
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| 06:44.59 | Mikk | Ok, are you absolutely certain that the unstacked items are actually the same items? =) |
| 06:45.23 | NightHawkTheSane | Absolutely. I'm staring at a stack of 1x Fish Oil, and a separate stack of 18x Fish oil. :) |
| 06:45.31 | NightHawkTheSane | (they stack to 20) |
| 06:45.34 | Mikk | ok, testing 18+1 |
| 06:46.17 | Mikk | works for me :S |
| 06:46.29 | NightHawkTheSane | hell, they're even in the same physical bag. (backpack) |
| 06:46.53 | ckknight | NightHawkTheSane: it's a large 1 |
| 06:47.05 | Mikk | same here |
| 06:47.10 | NightHawkTheSane | ckknight: lol |
| 06:47.10 | Mikk | backpack |
| 06:47.11 | art3mis | wow you got that on the internet? in my day the internet was only used to download pornography |
| 06:47.26 | Mikk | i don't have fish oil tho.. using quails |
| 06:47.31 | Mikk | try restacking them manually and splitting again |
| 06:48.31 | NightHawkTheSane | doing that causes the icon to appear, and clicking it will restack them, though its the only thing it restacks, not the 8x stack of heavy leather and 19x stack of heavy leather i also have ;) I looted all those from the mail a moment ago, would that have anything to do with it? |
| 06:48.44 | Mikk | no |
| 06:48.51 | Mikk | it doesn't touch caches or anything like that |
| 06:48.58 | Mikk | loops through all your slots looking for stuff to compress |
| 06:49.38 | Mikk | and yeah 8+19 should becomes 7+20 |
| 06:50.30 | Mikk | granted, i'm extracting the complete itemlink |
| 06:50.54 | Mikk | so if for some reason there's a difference in an itemid field that doesn't matter |
| 06:50.58 | Mikk | it won't think they're equal |
| 06:51.02 | Mikk | while the game itself would |
| 06:52.21 | Mikk | maybe i should just go with itemids |
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| 06:53.11 | Mikk | though i must say i don't really like the idea |
| 06:53.25 | Mikk | since extracting item ids means i'd have to create new strings |
| 06:53.29 | Mikk | all the time |
| 06:53.55 | Mikk | grrrrrr |
| 06:55.03 | NightHawkTheSane | hmm |
| 06:55.04 | rophy | How do I prevent AceLibrary for auto loading libraries? |
| 06:55.08 | rophy | s/for/from/ |
| 06:55.28 | Mikk | don't tell it to load them? |
| 06:55.37 | Mikk | until you want them? |
| 06:55.51 | rophy | it auto loads them even if i disabled them, I remember a key need to be set to disable that behaviour |
| 06:56.02 | rophy | but i cant remeber the key |
| 06:56.12 | rophy | something like AceLibrary.DONOTAUTOLOAD |
| 06:56.12 | NightHawkTheSane | Mikk: so, again, I looted 2 stacks of fel hide from the mail, 1x and 3x, and had a 4x stack in bags. I looted 2 stacks of 1x primal shadow and a stack of 2x primal shadow from the mail. The compress feature only stacked the two single primal shadows into a stack of 2x, not stacking it with the otehr 2x stack, and not touching the fel hide |
| 06:56.37 | Mikk | Smells like their itemstrings are different yeah |
| 06:56.41 | Mikk | Weird shit :S |
| 06:56.45 | NightHawkTheSane | Probably |
| 06:57.04 | NightHawkTheSane | and yeah, weird shit. do the item strings contain any kind of quantity part? |
| 06:57.11 | Mikk | no, not afaik |
| 06:57.33 | Mikk | wouldn't surprise me if blizz started setting the creator field |
| 06:57.35 | Mikk | for looted stuff |
| 06:57.43 | NightHawkTheSane | hmm. |
| 06:57.51 | Mikk | the 2 stacks of 1 came from the same toon? |
| 06:57.55 | Mikk | and the 1 stack of 2 from another? |
| 06:58.16 | NightHawkTheSane | well, they were all from the AH, but the two stack of 1 were sold by the same guy, and the other one was someone different |
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| 06:58.30 | Mikk | sure smells like looter id is getting embedded |
| 06:58.58 | Arrowmaster | most stuff has a uniqid now ive noticed |
| 06:59.13 | Mikk | not unique.. looter character :-P |
| 06:59.21 | Mikk | (at least that's what it seems like) |
| 06:59.22 | NightHawkTheSane | hmm, maybe. Some of the heavy leather i have is crafted from medium leather, while the stuff i nabbed from my mail was skinned by another char, so that might explain that. |
| 06:59.47 | Arrowmaster | print the itemlinks |
| 07:00.02 | Arrowmaster | do /print "shiftclick-item" |
| 07:00.56 | NightHawkTheSane | :59:49 Error: [string "AceLibrary('AceConsole-2.0'):PrintLiteral(|Hitem:2245..."]:1: unexpected symbol near '|' |
| 07:01.14 | Arrowmaster | make sure the itemlink is in quotes |
| 07:01.21 | NightHawkTheSane | ahh, whoops |
| 07:01.38 | art3mis | so simple a retarded monkey could do it! |
| 07:02.40 | NightHawkTheSane | http://ace.pastey.net/46464 |
| 07:02.47 | NightHawkTheSane | they're definitely different. |
| 07:02.57 | art3mis | i knew it! |
| 07:03.07 | NightHawkTheSane | art3mis: you're a retarded monkey! |
| 07:03.10 | art3mis | the guy that did studio 60 did sports night as well |
| 07:03.19 | art3mis | no wonder it was cancelled ;P |
| 07:03.28 | art3mis | far to clever for 95% of americans |
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| 07:04.21 | Mikk | welpz... unique ids in itemstrings.... who would have suspected |
| 07:04.25 | Mikk | bastidhs |
| 07:04.38 | Arrowmaster | even instance loot has it now |
| 07:05.33 | CIA-22 | 03gagorian * r37761 10DrDamage/ (8 files in 2 dirs): |
| 07:05.33 | CIA-22 | DrDamage: |
| 07:05.33 | CIA-22 | - Make sure Buff/Debuff tables exist before writing to them in class modules |
| 07:05.33 | CIA-22 | - Cleaning up DrDamage.lua |
| 07:05.46 | Mikk | "even instance loot"? |
| 07:05.51 | Mikk | dude, greys have it now :-P |
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| 07:06.46 | Mikk | hrms... what if i do it by name |
| 07:06.57 | Mikk | or is that going to screw me over with some equally-named crap |
| 07:07.03 | Arrowmaster | .... |
| 07:07.19 | Arrowmaster | just ignore the last part of the itemstring |
| 07:07.23 | nymbia | for what? |
| 07:07.32 | Arrowmaster | only match the itemids |
| 07:07.41 | NightHawkTheSane | doesn't mrplow do restacking? ninja it from there? :p |
| 07:07.55 | Mikk | Arrowmaster: aye, but i was hoping i could avoid string splitting |
| 07:07.59 | Mikk | the name i can get from api call |
| 07:08.07 | nymbia | don't use name |
| 07:08.25 | Mikk | name for preliminary match and itemid ones i see the names match? |
| 07:08.32 | Mikk | ones=once |
| 07:08.38 | Arrowmaster | hopefully bizz fixes the 2.1 bug with item stacking |
| 07:08.41 | Nargiddley | Mikk, moving stuff in bags will be way more time consuming than any string.match :P |
| 07:08.50 | Nargiddley | just do it on item id |
| 07:09.05 | Mikk | Nargiddley: Of course. But I scan a hell of a lot more often than I restack =) |
| 07:09.20 | Nargiddley | grab it from slotcache then :D |
| 07:09.29 | Mikk | You said I couldn't touch that :S |
| 07:09.38 | Nargiddley | still a string find but no api calls |
| 07:10.53 | Mikk | Arrowmaster: 2.1 bug? item stacking? wha? |
| 07:11.26 | Arrowmaster | the item stacking feature they added in 2.1 but then hotfix disabled hours after the servers went up |
| 07:11.39 | Mikk | Which feature is this? |
| 07:12.02 | Arrowmaster | getting items from the mail went into partial stacks instead of creating new stacks |
| 07:12.08 | Mikk | ah, that one |
| 07:12.35 | Arrowmaster | i love the crafting uses from the smallest stack instead of first stack one they added |
| 07:12.48 | Mikk | Yeah no kidding |
| 07:12.51 | Arrowmaster | does that work with ammo too? |
| 07:12.56 | Mikk | Yeah |
| 07:13.12 | Mikk | I was going to go out and test which order stuff got used so I'd know how to sort it in the item compressor |
| 07:13.24 | Mikk | Then when I tested I realized it was wasted effort :) |
| 07:13.45 | Arrowmaster | it used to be a set order |
| 07:14.03 | Mikk | yeah i know... sequential search bag 0--4, slot 0--n, if memory serves |
| 07:14.10 | Mikk | i just needed to re-test |
| 07:14.39 | Mikk | good thing i did :-P |
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| 07:22.59 | Gagorian | Priceless. A guy reported "bugs" in DrDamage by looking at the code, not the actual values in-game (which were correct). I replied to him that if he doesn't know how it works maybe he shouldn't look into the files. |
| 07:23.02 | Gagorian | I got this response |
| 07:23.03 | Gagorian | However, telling me I should not be looking into the files because I may not know something has got to be the dumbest thing I've ever read. If early doctors had stop looking into the human body where would medical science be? Or if you had not learned the WoW API or lua or xml because you did not know about them once either. |
| 07:23.13 | Elkano | Mikk, any idea how long it takes until template changes are applied to pages? |
| 07:23.15 | Gagorian | However, telling me I should not be looking into the files because I may not know something has got to be the dumbest thing I've ever read. If early doctors had stop looking into the human body where would medical science be? Or if you had not learned the WoW API or lua or xml because you did not know about them once either. |
| 07:23.24 | Gagorian | Or none us had never opened a book or took about apart anything we knew nothing to very little about because we unsure of how it worked but we needed it to work and there was no other choice. I am very intelligent individual sir with many years under my belt learning things on the fly at break neck speed. You wrote the code. You are the expect on your code. But your premise on someone not looking at something because they may or may not know h |
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| 07:23.58 | Gagorian | Ok, a bit long. -_- |
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| 07:31.58 | pb_ee1 | Heya |
| 07:31.58 | Mikk | Elkano: check Special:Statistics |
| 07:31.58 | Mikk | When the work queue reaches 0, it's done |
| 07:31.58 | Mikk | If you want to force a change to a page, you can hit edit, then replace "action=edit" with "action=purge" and hit enter |
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| 07:32.12 | Mikk | Gagorian: That guy needs a reality check. |
| 07:32.34 | Sole | Gagorian: I think you hit a nerve |
| 07:32.53 | Mikk | Granted, maybe you should have said "if he doesn't know how it works, he shouldn't report bugs based on it" |
| 07:32.57 | Mikk | But .. erm.. yeah |
| 07:33.23 | Sole | I wouldve just told him to fuck off |
| 07:33.42 | Mikk | Actually, using his analogy, his work is akin to "doctors" measuring the diameter of people's heads and proclaiming they're stupid |
| 07:33.45 | Elkano | hmm... Mikk, something strange... for FuBar_GuildFu PAGENAME seems to return the name including the _, for FuBar_CraftTimersFu it replaces _ with a space :/ |
| 07:33.46 | Sole | yeah Im basically an e-toughguy |
| 07:33.47 | Mikk | Without actually testing their IQ |
| 07:34.04 | Elkano | and I can't get it to keep the _ in |
| 07:34.13 | Mikk | PAGENAMEE <-- keeps the _ in |
| 07:34.14 | Stephmw | mornin' |
| 07:34.17 | Mikk | The extra "E" means "Encoded" |
| 07:34.43 | Mikk | Gagorian: Feel free to use my analogy to piss him off more =) |
| 07:35.45 | Stephmw | hahaha |
| 07:35.56 | Elkano | ok, working :) |
| 07:36.31 | Mikk | Oh, wait |
| 07:36.32 | Mikk | I have it now |
| 07:37.19 | Mikk | "Doctors also used to measure people's heads and proclaim that they were stupid, without actually measuring their IQ. They were then told by people that knew better that they were, in fact, wrong. They learned from it. I just told you that you were wrong. Did you learn from it?" |
| 07:38.15 | kergoth | does threat-1.0's pet module work? not seeing anything on my hunter |
| 07:38.17 | Mikk | That will either shut him up or send him off on a wonderful huff |
| 07:38.41 | Stephmw | Mikk: beautifully crafted |
| 07:39.17 | Elkano | mikk, but measuring peoples had and telling them that they are stupid because of the results works, at least in the case that they belive you |
| 07:39.54 | Mikk | Elkano: Hmmmm... biased sample set :-P |
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| 07:45.21 | Mikk | On an unrelated note... why does bugsack take so fricking long to display errors? |
| 07:45.26 | Sole | whats wrong with validate = {"Target", "Focus", "Spell", "Disabled"}, ? WoW keeps bringing up a usage error, its def something wrong with the validate |
| 07:45.47 | Sole | its a text option |
| 07:45.48 | Mikk | Sole: pastey a few lines around it also please |
| 07:46.19 | Sole | Mikk: http://ace.pastey.net/46512 |
| 07:47.03 | Sole | Mikk: http://ace.pastey.net/46514 sorry its this one |
| 07:47.50 | Sole | Mikk: wow never mind |
| 07:48.05 | Sole | Mikk: I just had a minute of retardation |
| 07:48.09 | Sole | FORGET THIS EVER HAPPENED! |
| 07:48.36 | Mikk | tis ok =) |
| 07:48.55 | Mikk | Wait i'm ruining my image, aren't I |
| 07:48.56 | Elkano | k, everybody, look directly at this device over here... *flash* |
| 07:49.00 | Mikk | FUCKING NOOB L2CODE ALREADY |
| 07:49.07 | Mikk | there we go |
| 07:49.20 | nymbia | ~logs |
| 07:49.24 | purl | well, logs is apt/ibot/infobot/jbot/purl all log daily to http://ibot.rikers.org/<channelname>/ where channelname is html encoded ie: %23debian | lines that start with a space are not shown | some channels have stats at http://ibot.rikers.org/stats/<channelname>.html.gz |
| 07:49.25 | nymbia | >.> |
| 07:49.44 | Sole | lol |
| 07:49.54 | Sole | HI NYMBI |
| 07:50.02 | nymbia | HI SOLE ;) |
| 07:50.24 | Sole | do you even use glad? |
| 07:50.31 | nymbia | yup! |
| 07:50.36 | Gagorian | Mikk: It's like.. A plumber cutting open a person, then because he can't figure out how the organs fit together he tells the person he's dying. Then a surgeon tells the plumber that maybe he should stop if he doesn't know wtf he is doing. Then the plumber gets mad. |
| 07:50.45 | Sole | orly? well then Ive got great news |
| 07:50.51 | nymbia | need to get the rest of my team to switch to it |
| 07:50.52 | nymbia | ? |
| 07:50.52 | Sole | I thought of some damn sweet ideas today! RAWR |
| 07:50.56 | nymbia | hawt |
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| 07:51.05 | Sole | Im about to commit a click handling change |
| 07:51.18 | Sole | you can now set left/right clicks to target/set focus/cast spell |
| 07:51.34 | nymbia | give. |
| 07:51.34 | nymbia | now. |
| 07:51.42 | nymbia | ;) |
| 07:51.45 | Sole | I thought you'd like that |
| 07:52.09 | Sole | the @todo is at the top of Gladiator.lua if youre interested, LOOKOUT ITS COMIN |
| 07:52.19 | nymbia | :D |
| 07:52.22 | nymbia | but for now |
| 07:52.26 | nymbia | sleep |
| 07:52.33 | nymbia | <3 |
| 07:52.44 | Sole | already? |
| 07:53.20 | omega_ | its like 0952am |
| 07:53.38 | Sole | we all live in the same timezone, right? |
| 07:53.46 | omega_ | yeah, I would presume so :p |
| 07:53.57 | Sole | nymbia: you still with us? |
| 07:54.03 | NightHawkTheSane | he left, dude |
| 07:54.05 | omega_ | no, he quit |
| 07:54.08 | SunTiger | Give me Swirly Ball or give me death! |
| 07:54.15 | Sole | hmm I didnt get that message |
| 07:54.21 | omega_ | it would be cool to live like "I don't aknowledge timezones" |
| 07:54.24 | NightHawkTheSane | SwirlyBall4Life! |
| 07:54.37 | Sole | Give me Swirly Ball or give me death! |
| 07:54.43 | Sole | I miss Swirly Ball :( |
| 07:55.21 | Sole | rogues had a magicks spell and they took it from us, bastards |
| 07:55.21 | SunTiger | indeed |
| 07:55.21 | SunTiger | Swirly ball or death! |
| 07:55.34 | Sole | so Ive got an option to choose which spell to cast on click |
| 07:55.44 | Sole | and I just found out about the Icon field in the AceOpts tables |
| 07:56.02 | Sole | and Im tempted to put Babble-Spell into Gladiator just to have 2 cool icons in my options menu |
| 07:56.11 | Gngsk | omega_, that's how I live |
| 07:56.59 | omega_ | Gngsk: hehe :) "Talk to me in Internet Time or don't talk to me at all" |
| 07:57.44 | Elkano | ~ugt |
| 07:57.56 | purl | ugt is probably Universial Greeting Time. Created in #mipslinux, it is a rule that states that whenever somebody enters an IRC channel it is always morning, and it is always late when the person leaves. The local time of any other people in the channel, including the greeter, is irrelevant. http://www.total-knowledge.com/~ilya/mips/ugt.html |
| 07:58.04 | CIA-22 | 03fenlis * r37762 10Decursive/localization.kr.lua: |
| 07:58.04 | CIA-22 | Decursive: |
| 07:58.04 | CIA-22 | - Updated localization koKR |
| 07:58.44 | Elkano | can get you pretty old if you've gotten a crappy inet connection with lots of dcs ;) |
| 07:58.54 | Laricwork | lol |
| 07:59.03 | CIA-22 | 03fenlis * r37763 10LittleWigs/TempestKeep/ (Capacitus.lua Ironhand.lua): |
| 07:59.03 | CIA-22 | LittleWigs: |
| 07:59.03 | CIA-22 | <PROTECTED> |
| 07:59.19 | CIA-22 | 03gagorian * r37764 10DrDamage/ (Data/Paladin.lua DrDamage.lua): |
| 07:59.19 | CIA-22 | DrDamage: |
| 07:59.19 | CIA-22 | - More cleanup |
| 07:59.19 | CIA-22 | - Enabled next calculation for judgements and crusader strike (can't remember why I disabled them) |
| 08:02.45 | Elkano | there is no api call to get a pet's owner name, is there? |
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| 08:06.57 | Gagorian | Hmm, it's possible to get from the pet's tooltip at least |
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| 08:08.35 | Sole | hmm |
| 08:08.45 | Sole | so it turns out we can only focus our target? |
| 08:09.00 | Diao | o_O |
| 08:09.01 | Gagorian | Elkano: string.gsub(GameTooltipTextLeft2:GetText(), "'s Minion", "") or 's Pet or 's Servant or 's Guardian |
| 08:09.04 | Diao | no? |
| 08:09.27 | Sole | well I cant do /focus BOB |
| 08:09.38 | Sole | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:09.48 | Gagorian | Elkano: Not exactly clean.. I wonder if it's possible to get the text that's floating under the name tag |
| 08:09.50 | Diao | unless they changed it this last patch |
| 08:10.00 | Elkano | Gagorian: but no explicit call, right? someone on our forums asked and I couldn't find a call either |
| 08:10.08 | Diao | cause prior patch i was doing /focus name and it worked fine |
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| 08:10.27 | FISKER_Q | anyone here really 1337 in linux? |
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| 08:10.44 | Sole | Diao: theyre not units to me though, theyre just players around me, not grouped or anything |
| 08:10.44 | Gagorian | Elkano: Not that I know of |
| 08:11.59 | chefk0ch | hm does anyone of you guys know how to fix bartender3 to change the bar when i enter a different stance? |
| 08:12.02 | chefk0ch | seams just druids have this problem |
| 08:12.08 | Diao | oh |
| 08:13.01 | SunTiger | chefk0ch, first of all, if you gained the stance in this sessin you need to relog |
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| 08:13.12 | SunTiger | second , you can set them yourself, but i don't remember how. |
| 08:13.20 | Elkano | hmm... http://www.boredstop.com/imgp/vcard.jpg |
| 08:15.27 | chefk0ch | thanks SunTiger, i simply relogged and now it works :> |
| 08:15.35 | Sole | LOL |
| 08:16.22 | MikkAFK | Elkano: sounds to me like he needs to charge his buddy for a new card |
| 08:16.38 | Sole | no he doesnt |
| 08:16.47 | Sole | he needs to run into a wall for being so retarded |
| 08:17.00 | SunTiger | chefk0ch, no problem |
| 08:17.07 | SunTiger | i rolled a lot of rogues, i know the problem. |
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| 08:19.38 | Sole | ok what the fuck |
| 08:19.49 | Sole | <PROTECTED> |
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| 08:21.14 | NightHawkTheSane | because you touch yourself at night |
| 08:24.06 | [Liquidor] | Any Ace moduel for timing functions? |
| 08:24.17 | Sole | AceEvent and Metrognome |
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| 08:25.42 | Loki|muh | chefk0ch: zuluhed/eu? |
| 08:25.56 | Gagorian | Elkano: http://ace.pastey.net/46552 |
| 08:25.58 | Gagorian | that works |
| 08:27.27 | Sole | macros are starting to annoy me |
| 08:27.40 | Sole | I swear /target Sole; /cast Stealth worked an hour ago and now it doesnt |
| 08:27.53 | [Liquidor] | Heh still talking about that ? =) |
| 08:28.07 | Sole | well it was working |
| 08:28.08 | theoddone33 | I'm annoyed that I can stealth off a normal mount but not a flying mount |
| 08:28.11 | Sole | and now it stopped |
| 08:28.28 | Gngsk | theoddone33, I have no problem stealthing off a normal mount |
| 08:28.40 | theoddone33 | why not /cast [target=player] Stealth ? |
| 08:28.46 | theoddone33 | no idea if that'd work better |
| 08:29.17 | theoddone33 | you know |
| 08:29.25 | theoddone33 | I see now that's probably not the point of the macro |
| 08:29.26 | Sole | thats not the point |
| 08:29.36 | Sole | thats just an example macro |
| 08:30.00 | Sole | its actually "/target "..name.."; /cast "..self.db.profile.spell |
| 08:30.46 | theoddone33 | does it need to actually switch target? |
| 08:30.50 | Sole | yes |
| 08:30.52 | theoddone33 | k |
| 08:31.51 | theoddone33 | I haven't tried with today's patch but I had a similar macro working last night |
| 08:32.07 | theoddone33 | been working since forever |
| 08:32.11 | theoddone33 | so ... yeah, that's weird |
| 08:32.33 | Sole | it was just working dammit |
| 08:33.16 | shieldb | Sole, I just have a /dismount at the start of my stealth macro and that's been working fine for me? |
| 08:33.46 | chefk0ch | sry loki was afk, i'm on destro eu ;) |
| 08:34.16 | Sole | shieldb: I need mine to be a one-liner |
| 08:34.37 | shieldb | ahh |
| 08:34.45 | shieldb | any particular reason for that? |
| 08:34.52 | shieldb | ./curious |
| 08:35.00 | Mikk | [Liquidor]: AceEvent. Don't use Metrognome. No point in pulling in Metrognome when AceEvent already has everything. |
| 08:35.14 | [Liquidor] | Won't |
| 08:35.22 | [Liquidor] | Already read the API and AceEvent got what I need |
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| 08:36.14 | [Ammo] | morning girls |
| 08:36.44 | [Liquidor] | mn |
| 08:37.27 | Sole | shieldb: yeah Im setting it as a macrotext attribute of a secure button |
| 08:39.23 | Sole | this is frustrating me :( |
| 08:40.06 | FISKER_Q | TecnoBrat you here? |
| 08:40.17 | TecnoBrat | kinda |
| 08:40.22 | TecnoBrat | about to head to bed |
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| 08:40.29 | FISKER_Q | Is spellsurge awesome for paladins? |
| 08:40.37 | FISKER_Q | Instead of +30 int or +81 healing |
| 08:40.38 | TecnoBrat | never tried it TBH |
| 08:40.54 | Sole | DO IT FISKERDIN |
| 08:40.55 | FISKER_Q | ok :i |
| 08:41.41 | ZealotOnAStick | It definitely rocks. |
| 08:41.58 | ZealotOnAStick | Procs a LOT, and when they're casting lots of flash of light, it's nice. |
| 08:42.33 | ZealotOnAStick | Unlike my damn 2pc Voidheart bonus. |
| 08:43.44 | Mikk | FISKER_Q: http://wow.allakhazam.com/db/item.html?witem=22558;page=1;howmany=50#1174082405263007000 |
| 08:44.33 | [Ammo] | ZealotOnAStick: just be happy you actually have the bonus :p |
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| 08:44.36 | [Ammo] | I have 1 piece of void |
| 08:46.00 | [Liquidor] | Is AceHook not in use any longer or where do I get myself a copy of the module? |
| 08:46.27 | [Ammo] | ? |
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| 08:46.31 | Sole | the SVN |
| 08:46.37 | [Ammo] | basically yeah |
| 08:46.44 | [Ammo] | next to where you got aceevent |
| 08:46.53 | [Liquidor] | Can't find it tho |
| 08:46.58 | Sole | look harder |
| 08:47.04 | [Ammo] | http://svn.wowace.com/wowace/trunk/Ace2/ ..... |
| 08:47.06 | [Liquidor] | Heh haven't slept all night, will do |
| 08:47.16 | [Ammo] | point your svn cient to there |
| 08:47.19 | ZealotOnAStick | I had just the gloves until last night. Then I picked up the robe. Was a bit of an upgrade anyway over my Warp-infused Drape, but I mainly got it for the set bonus. |
| 08:47.25 | ZealotOnAStick | which procs really disappointly infrequently. |
| 08:47.25 | FISKER_Q | i think i'll give it a shot |
| 08:47.29 | Stephmw | [Liquidor]: I thought 24hr raids were finally over? |
| 08:47.36 | [Ammo] | ZealotOnAStick: it procs quite a lot for affliction |
| 08:47.38 | [Liquidor] | <-- pvp |
| 08:47.40 | ZealotOnAStick | Where my Magtheridon's Eye procs A LOT. |
| 08:47.40 | [Ammo] | since we spam spells |
| 08:47.44 | Sole | 24hr raids are fun! |
| 08:47.54 | ZealotOnAStick | Ammo - 44/0/17. |
| 08:48.00 | Stephmw | [Liquidor]: 24hrs of pvp... aiming for the netherdrake or what? |
| 08:48.01 | [Ammo] | 45/0/16 :p |
| 08:48.17 | Sole | I should get back on my old team, theyre getting a netherdrake :( |
| 08:48.27 | Sole | shoulda never taken that break :( |
| 08:48.31 | ZealotOnAStick | I got . . . maybe half a dozen to 10 procs over 4 1/2 hours of raiding. |
| 08:48.35 | [Ammo] | hmm |
| 08:48.46 | [Ammo] | did they nerf it in 2.1 then |
| 08:49.00 | Sole | can somebody else test these macros for me just so I know Im not crazy |
| 08:49.06 | ZealotOnAStick | Well, they fixed it to proc off dot ticks and so forth . . . but it's really a disappointing proc rate for me so far. |
| 08:49.07 | [Ammo] | because guildmate had the buff approx 25-30% of a gruul fight |
| 08:49.13 | Sole | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:49.37 | [Ammo] | Sole, that won't work will it |
| 08:49.39 | [Ammo] | requires 2 clicks |
| 08:49.41 | ZealotOnAStick | Whereas my Mag's Eye is the best trinket ever. And that with 11.5% spell hit. |
| 08:49.57 | Sole | [Ammo]: was workin with 1 click for me earlier tonight, and now its not :( |
| 08:50.10 | [Ammo] | maybe if you already have yourself targetted |
| 08:50.19 | [Liquidor] | Sole, and you're sure you didn't have the target already? |
| 08:50.30 | [Liquidor] | [Ammo], don't be that fast |
| 08:50.48 | Sole | even having the target, its not getting to the stealth part at all |
| 08:50.54 | Sole | never casts a spell |
| 08:51.03 | |dRiN| | ./cast [target=player] spell ? |
| 08:51.07 | kergoth | any hunters around? i'm a new hunter, level 51, was trying out AV, finding myself having trouble acquiring targets which are a distance away.. how do people advise doing it? i'm used to tab targeting from my rogue, but the range on that isnt far enough to be of use on my hunter |
| 08:51.07 | Mikk | idd |
| 08:51.34 | [Liquidor] | kergoth, you can increase the tab targeting |
| 08:51.39 | kergoth | hmm |
| 08:51.39 | [Ammo] | c l i c k :p |
| 08:51.41 | phyber | kergoth: invisible walls, ftw? |
| 08:51.42 | [Liquidor] | AND you could learn2adabt and use mouse |
| 08:51.43 | kergoth | good idea, i forgot about that |
| 08:51.51 | Sole | |dRiN|: its not for a player target, thats just an example |
| 08:51.55 | kergoth | well, i try to click to target, but people are moving around so quickly i have trouble |
| 08:51.57 | [Ammo] | Sole: it's impossible |
| 08:52.00 | phyber | or you just can't click them fast enough? ;) |
| 08:52.01 | phyber | ah |
| 08:52.01 | kergoth | maybe i just need practice |
| 08:52.01 | kergoth | :) |
| 08:52.19 | [Liquidor] | kergoth, heard of bullet mode? |
| 08:52.19 | |dRiN| | Sole: just dropped in : ) |
| 08:52.19 | [Liquidor] | I hear warlocks got it, at least their HP |
| 08:52.19 | kergoth | bullet mode? |
| 08:52.19 | Sole | [Ammo]: well shit, I'll do it with 2 clicks it still doesnt work on 1 line |
| 08:52.31 | Mikk | Sole: Ummm 1 line? |
| 08:52.32 | [Liquidor] | or bullet time w/e |
| 08:52.52 | |dRiN| | Sole: did they break /target name, /cast [target=target] spell? |
| 08:52.57 | [Liquidor] | Sole, shouldn't you be using 2 lines when you got 2 slashes? |
| 08:53.12 | Sole | Semicolon should be a seperator |
| 08:53.16 | moonsorrow | is the public svn out of sync currently? |
| 08:53.24 | Mikk | semicolon was never a separator in macros afaik |
| 08:53.32 | Sole | Mikk: I need to set macrotext |
| 08:53.45 | Mikk | And? |
| 08:53.48 | [Ammo] | Sole: use \n |
| 08:53.50 | Mikk | Set it to a text with a linefeed in it? o.O |
| 08:53.54 | [Ammo] | check out LockSmith |
| 08:53.54 | |dRiN| | :D |
| 08:53.57 | [Ammo] | it sets a macrotext |
| 08:54.01 | [Ammo] | with multiline |
| 08:54.09 | Sole | alright, I tried using \n but it didnt do anything earlier |
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| 08:54.16 | [Ammo] | then you're doing it wrong |
| 08:54.19 | [Ammo] | check LockSmith |
| 08:54.21 | [Ammo] | that one works for sure |
| 08:54.24 | Stephmw | [Liquidor]: you have me curious... extending the range of tab-targetting? |
| 08:54.50 | gold2 | i wish, tab targeting is so limited, and it's a hell to click target when multiple mobs are tanked ontop of eachother :| |
| 08:54.52 | [Liquidor] | Yeah I'm sure I read the API of it somewhere.... a year ago |
| 08:54.58 | Stephmw | and I got in early :( |
| 08:55.00 | Stephmw | err |
| 08:55.04 | Stephmw | woops, wrong window |
| 08:55.11 | [Ammo] | gold2: turn on namelpates |
| 08:55.15 | Mikk | It's a config.wtf setting |
| 08:55.20 | ZealotOnAStick | oTweaks used to do it. I'm not sure if it's still doable or not. |
| 08:55.23 | Mikk | and nameplates don't show that far out |
| 08:55.28 | [Ammo] | true |
| 08:55.40 | [Ammo] | they do close up though :p |
| 08:55.45 | Stephmw | fair enough... I usually just use it until I get a matching raid icon |
| 08:56.03 | Mikk | http://www.wowwiki.com/Config.wtf_defaults |
| 08:56.13 | Mikk | There's actually an explanation of the tab distance ones at the bottom |
| 08:56.58 | Mikk | I should re-scan that list too... sigh |
| 08:57.10 | Stephmw | any idea what valid value ranges are? |
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| 08:58.05 | [Liquidor] | Stephmw, usually yards |
| 08:58.08 | [Liquidor] | but the range, dunno |
| 08:58.23 | Stephmw | it feels like my default is around 35-36yds |
| 08:58.34 | Stephmw | I think it'd be useful to have 50... I'll try tonight |
| 08:58.34 | Sole | [Ammo]: you're right, I was doing it wrong. I had spaces between the macro commands and the \n |
| 08:58.36 | renchap | svn mirror is still resyncing. eta : 1 hour |
| 08:59.02 | [Liquidor] | "targetNearestDistanceRadius" = "10.000000" is the one you want to modify |
| 08:59.15 | [Liquidor] | Since I know 10 yards is approx what's max for my tabbing |
| 08:59.21 | [Liquidor] | Go for 40 |
| 08:59.42 | Stephmw | [Liquidor]: that doesn't sound right - on my mage I can definately tab further than 10 |
| 08:59.50 | [Liquidor] | Yeah maybe, but 41? |
| 08:59.56 | [Liquidor] | ("targetNearestDistance" = "41.000000") |
| 09:00.29 | ZealotOnAStick | I think the radius is the degree arc in which you can do it in front of your character. |
| 09:00.39 | [Liquidor] | Prolly but then 10 is quite low |
| 09:00.50 | cryogen | sounds about right actually |
| 09:00.55 | cryogen | the tab targetting cone is very narrow |
| 09:01.08 | [Liquidor] | Go 360 for the cone !! |
| 09:01.38 | [Liquidor] | 200 for distance and 360 for cone ... gogo AV |
| 09:01.42 | [Liquidor] | .200 for distance and 360 for cone ... gogo AV |
| 09:01.43 | cryogen | lol |
| 09:02.07 | cryogen | i could see some delay in pressing tab and getting a target :) |
| 09:02.10 | Stephmw | [Liquidor]: yeah, 41yd is the max range for mages with talented fireballs |
| 09:02.26 | [Liquidor] | It's confirmed, 41 is the distance |
| 09:02.34 | [Liquidor] | Just tested it with friendly targeting in IF |
| 09:02.39 | Stephmw | 'k |
| 09:02.49 | cryogen | does changing the arc work too? |
| 09:03.12 | ZealotOnAStick | It used to, at any rate. I bumped it up to about 30, and it was noticeable. |
| 09:03.20 | [Liquidor] | Haven't tried |
| 09:03.20 | cryogen | nice, might try that :) |
| 09:03.27 | Elkano | hmm... (range of SW:P) for distance, 360 for cone -> fun in bg ;) |
| 09:03.31 | [Liquidor] | Are the wtf values editable ingame too by console? |
| 09:03.45 | gold2 | you can set the tab distance? |
| 09:03.48 | ZealotOnAStick | some of them are. Not sure all are. |
| 09:03.50 | gold2 | if i could set it to 41 for my fireball then <3 |
| 09:03.50 | Elkano | most likely yes |
| 09:03.51 | [Liquidor] | gold2, ye |
| 09:04.03 | [Liquidor] | gold2, it's already at 41 |
| 09:04.06 | yacoob | uhh. |
| 09:04.09 | yacoob | need new parser |
| 09:04.18 | yacoob | I've read 'eyeball' instead of 'fireball' |
| 09:04.24 | Stephmw | haha |
| 09:04.29 | todd | so.. I haven't played in a couple days and I'm downloading a patch.. anything major? |
| 09:04.33 | todd | I can't find any patch notes |
| 09:04.40 | CIA-22 | 03mok * r37765 10xchar/ (. xchar.toc): xchar: toc update |
| 09:04.42 | cryogen | the patch notes are "Fix client crash" |
| 09:04.42 | Stephmw | talented eyeball: allows you to n00bify targets at any range |
| 09:04.44 | ZealotOnAStick | no. |
| 09:04.50 | todd | ah |
| 09:04.51 | ZealotOnAStick | bug fix for a crash. |
| 09:04.52 | [Liquidor] | Patch Notes: Fixed crash stuff |
| 09:04.55 | [Liquidor] | End of Patch Notes |
| 09:05.12 | ZealotOnAStick | no differences on framexml. |
| 09:05.14 | cryogen | they missed out the part of breaking the servers in the patch notes |
| 09:05.20 | Elkano | cryogen: German patchnotes are even better "fixed a bug" |
| 09:05.29 | cryogen | haha |
| 09:07.01 | CIA-22 | 03ammo * r37766 10Violation/Threat/Threat.lua: Violation: clarify true nature of the global threat module, with a simple extra word. |
| 09:08.08 | [Liquidor] | Hmm I'm about to create a table listing remote chat commands and their functions, how should I set it up? |
| 09:08.19 | [Liquidor] | like index with the command names? |
| 09:09.13 | Mikk | that seems sensible yes |
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| 09:10.35 | Ominous | <ZealotOnAStick>: pong |
| 09:10.47 | [Liquidor] | But how do I execute the functions? |
| 09:10.58 | [Liquidor] | Don't got much experience with intergrating functions into tables |
| 09:11.11 | ZealotOnAStick | Ominous: does Classtimers account for the rogue T4 (Netherblade) set bonus for Slice and Dice? |
| 09:11.27 | Ominous | <ZealotOnAStick>: yes |
| 09:11.37 | ZealotOnAStick | 'k, thanks. |
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| 09:14.31 | CIA-22 | 03mok * r37767 10xchar/xchar.toc: xchar: toc again |
| 09:14.40 | CIA-22 | 03sole * r37768 10Gladiator/ (Gladiator.lua Locals/enUS.lua comm.lua frame.lua options.lua): Gladiator: - Left/Right Click handlers are now configurable. Possible options 'Target', 'Focus', 'Spell'. If 'Spell' is selected. Another option below will become enabled allowing you to type the name of the spell. |
| 09:15.22 | gold2 | any mod that will let you switch between chatframes on mouseover/hotkey? (As in if you have Guildchat/whispers in their own window, then combatlog and then the global channels, switch between those chatframes by mouseovering the channel frame-tab or by hotkey) |
| 09:15.46 | [Liquidor] | My first Ace addon and working on the FuBar plugin :) http://img366.imageshack.us/img366/686/premadeassistde3.jpg |
| 09:16.35 | Sole | that could be handy |
| 09:16.44 | Sole | except I like to know the people in my farm groups :P |
| 09:17.08 | [Liquidor] | Well I'm creating some features into it like wild cards etc |
| 09:17.16 | [Liquidor] | conserning the waiting list |
| 09:17.36 | Sole | nifty |
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| 09:18.37 | [Liquidor] | Using Fill In (as I call it atm, no clue what else it should be) it automatically runs through the waiting list and asks people to join 1 by 1. They all have 10 seconds to reply with a 5 second warning. If no reply then removed from the waiting list and the next player gets his/her chance |
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| 09:19.15 | [Liquidor] | The Advertise button asks for more players in the desired channel be it guild or public |
| 09:20.14 | Sole | 10 seconds is a bit short |
| 09:20.17 | [Liquidor] | Tho I'm new on this with FuBar etc, so I don't know how to disable certain options when needed. |
| 09:20.50 | [Liquidor] | Well with 10 players in a waiting list and a 9-man raid waiting to continue there's no time for the crap |
| 09:22.14 | [Liquidor] | But how do I import a function call into a table? |
| 09:22.50 | [Liquidor] | I mean... mytable = {name = "Alpha", func = Bravo(),} ? |
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| 09:24.06 | [Liquidor] | Actually another subtable in between for each function name, but anyway. how do I execute the func of the chosen index? |
| 09:25.04 | phyber | can the screenshotFormat be changed while you're playing WoW, or does changing it only take effect when you restart the client? |
| 09:25.26 | phyber | actually, n/m. Fisker's post seems to say it works ingame. |
| 09:25.44 | [Liquidor] | phyber, game restart since you have to edit the wtf file I assume |
| 09:25.56 | [Liquidor] | or wait |
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| 09:26.04 | [Liquidor] | those are SVs too, yeah ingame should be possible |
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| 09:29.20 | Mikk | "More to the point, I agree with the Dwarf... complaints about the priest can be taken up with the Spirit healer." lal |
| 09:29.36 | [Ammo] | millhouse manastorm is now a fucking riot |
| 09:29.45 | [Ammo] | did arcatraz erotic last night, what a blast |
| 09:29.47 | [Ammo] | the new vocals pwn |
| 09:30.14 | Mikk | phyber: you can change it in-game with /console commands. editing config.wtf while the game is running isn't a good idea tho. |
| 09:31.28 | NightHawkTheSane | [Ammo]: he's got vocals now? shit, taht might just make me turn sound on again. |
| 09:31.28 | Mikk | running wow without sound? o.O |
| 09:31.29 | [Ammo] | yeah he has vocals |
| 09:31.29 | Mikk | i'm seriously handicapped without sound tbh |
| 09:31.29 | [Ammo] | he's semi-gay now |
| 09:31.29 | [Ammo] | he's a riot though |
| 09:31.31 | [Ammo] | 'I'll light you up!' |
| 09:31.53 | [Liquidor] | Mikk, Learn2Use SCT spam |
| 09:32.08 | gold2 | arcatraz heroic last boss is a bitch |
| 09:32.11 | gold2 | if you dont have huntard there |
| 09:32.18 | gold2 | or is he nerfed after patch? |
| 09:32.19 | [Liquidor] | Gosh, I don't get it why people use SCT, what's the deal about it? |
| 09:32.19 | NightHawkTheSane | Mikk: witchhunt, msbt, and other visual cues, plus i listen to music while playing, so :P |
| 09:32.23 | Mikk | SCT spam doesn't tell me that there's a player standing to my left that's getting beaten |
| 09:33.11 | [Liquidor] | What's the great thing about having an UI being spammed with numbers and EVEN going in arc'ish directions? o.O |
| 09:33.26 | Seda| | its only spam if its not organized |
| 09:33.49 | Mikk | I mean.. if I hear "rawr" to my left, I'll turn and see wtf it's about ... without it, i'm left to having to wait for health bars to start dropping, and then wildly swivelling the camera to see what just happened |
| 09:33.49 | CIA-22 | 03daviesh * r37769 10AtlasLoot/Core/LootButtons.lua: |
| 09:33.49 | CIA-22 | AtlasLoot: |
| 09:33.49 | CIA-22 | - Fix for Saeri's Lootlink, courtesy KKram |
| 09:33.49 | CIA-22 | This is the green light for those who have something to add to the mod, all members of the AL team are on the same page now and this is now THE version of AtlasLoot. |
| 09:33.49 | CIA-22 | 03phyber * r37770 10FuBar_DigiCamFu/ (. DigiCamFu.lua FuBar_DigiCamFu.toc Libs/): |
| 09:33.49 | CIA-22 | FuBar_DigiCamFu: |
| 09:33.49 | CIA-22 | - Control screenshot format and quality from FuBar. |
| 09:33.50 | CIA-22 | - Can't set quality yet, setting format should work. |
| 09:33.52 | CIA-22 | - Drycoded with crappy 'not had a coffee yet' code. |
| 09:33.58 | Diao | how can you play without sct or msbt or at least blizz's built in fct |
| 09:34.39 | Mikk | how can someone play without sound? o.O |
| 09:34.46 | Elkano | we're free to break... ahm... improve AL now? cool ;) |
| 09:34.50 | gold2 | i played without sound for a year |
| 09:34.53 | [Liquidor] | well I use blizz built in for ooc/!ooc and and that's it |
| 09:34.53 | gold2 | cause my computer sucked ass |
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| 09:35.28 | Elkano | ook?ook! |
| 09:35.30 | Mikk | gold2: why a huntard in arca? |
| 09:35.49 | [Liquidor] | Only reason to use sound is to detect stealthers |
| 09:35.59 | [Ammo] | arcatraz is a joke now |
| 09:36.01 | [Ammo] | on heroic |
| 09:36.09 | Mikk | most heroics are jokes now :S |
| 09:36.10 | [Liquidor] | or if you're female gnum and like the voice saying "You can't do that yet" |
| 09:36.28 | [Ammo] | we did it with druid(heal), warrior, warlock, shaman(enhance), rogue |
| 09:36.33 | CIA-22 | 03phyber * r37771 10FuBar_DigiCamFu/Libs/: |
| 09:36.33 | CIA-22 | FuBar_DigiCamFu: |
| 09:36.33 | CIA-22 | - Set externals on Libs/ |
| 09:36.42 | [Ammo] | only real trouble we had was on soccrathes or something |
| 09:36.46 | [Ammo] | due to melee heavy |
| 09:36.56 | [Ammo] | but once we adjusted to that it was easy |
| 09:37.06 | [Ammo] | hyakiss just dies like a chump now |
| 09:37.33 | [Liquidor] | Hmm I'm a bit blank on how to organize my remote commands table, any suggestions? |
| 09:37.51 | [Liquidor] | Since I'm not sure how to execute functions wtihin a table :( |
| 09:38.00 | yacoob | oh my |
| 09:38.02 | yacoob | drug-resistant tuberculosis on the loose |
| 09:38.08 | Mikk | { "somecommand" = Function1, "command2" = Function2 } |
| 09:38.18 | Elkano | Mikk: http://esoteric.voxelperfect.net/wiki/Ook |
| 09:38.31 | Mikk | if mytable[lusercommand] then mytable[lusercommand](); end |
| 09:38.43 | pb_ee1 | http://www.wowace.com/wiki/AceLibs |
| 09:39.06 | Mikk | Bwhahaha |
| 09:39.19 | Mikk | My inner pratchett thrives |
| 09:39.27 | [Liquidor] | Mikk, thanks. |
| 09:39.32 | [Liquidor] | What about.... |
| 09:39.45 | CIA-22 | 03gagorian * r37772 10DrDamage/ (Data/Paladin.lua DrDamage.lua): |
| 09:39.45 | CIA-22 | DrDamage: |
| 09:39.45 | CIA-22 | - Seal of Vengeance fix |
| 09:39.52 | Mikk | Though I don't even see why you need a table to be fully honest :-P |
| 09:40.10 | Mikk | if then elseif elseif elseif ... |
| 09:40.25 | Mikk | Unless you have an insane amount of commands |
| 09:40.36 | [Liquidor] | { "somecommand" = function(self, arg1, arg2) --DoThis end, "command2" = function(self, arg1, arg2) --DoThis end } ------ How do I execute the function then? |
| 09:40.46 | Mikk | same |
| 09:40.50 | Mikk | if mytable[lusercommand] then mytable[lusercommand](); end |
| 09:41.01 | Mikk | well with params |
| 09:42.01 | Elkano | talking about strange coding languages, let's implement thisone: http://esoteric.voxelperfect.net/wiki/IRP |
| 09:42.01 | Mikk | if mytable[lusercommand] then mytable[lusercommand](object, "foo", "bar"); end |
| 09:42.01 | CIA-22 | 03roartindon * r37773 10TagCompiler-1.0/TagCompiler-1.0/TagCompiler-1.0.lua: TagCompiler-1.0: Moved a number of tags used commonly between my projects to the library. |
| 09:42.01 | [Liquidor] | Great, thanks. |
| 09:42.47 | Mikk | Elkano: rofl @ 99 bottles |
| 09:43.25 | CIA-22 | 03roartindon * r37774 10Aloft/AloftTag.lua: Aloft: AloftTag now uses common tags provided by TagCompiler-1.0 |
| 09:43.34 | Mikk | What's a tag :S |
| 09:43.47 | [Ammo] | I see duplication with DogTag and TagCompiler |
| 09:44.13 | [Ammo] | the tags are [curhp] |
| 09:44.17 | [Ammo] | etc |
| 09:44.28 | Elkano | Mikk, shall we try if it has been implemented in here? |
| 09:44.59 | Mikk | READY> |
| 09:46.07 | Mikk | [Ammo]: Are you surprised though? Ckknight's crusade is to rewrite everything that's ever been written. Personally I'd never survive the maintenance headache that results but .. hey.. that's me ;-P |
| 09:46.15 | [Ammo] | haha |
| 09:46.23 | [Ammo] | well I've ditched pitbull and dogtag again |
| 09:46.25 | [Ammo] | back to agUF |
| 09:46.35 | [Ammo] | pitbull + dogtag = performance hell compared to agUF |
| 09:47.23 | Elkano | Could someone please write five subsequent fibonacci numbers starting at 5? |
| 09:47.40 | Mikk | ENOTENOUGHCOFFEE |
| 09:48.04 | [Liquidor] | Mikk: if mytable[lusercommand] then mytable[lusercommand](object, "foo", "bar"); end |
| 09:48.30 | [Liquidor] | Was that object parameter needed because of the self paremeter declearing the function or is it a part of the example? |
| 09:48.54 | [Ammo] | it's an example |
| 09:48.55 | Mikk | you obviously want to pass something into "self" |
| 09:49.07 | Elkano | over 200 interpreters and besides one erroring and two doing sth different the rest seems to be in eiteher sleep or death loop state :/ |
| 09:49.11 | [Ammo] | it all depends how he setup his function |
| 09:49.33 | Mikk | 5 8 13 21 34 |
| 09:49.56 | [Liquidor] | ["Score"] = function(self, arg1, arg2) DoSomething; end |
| 09:50.20 | Mikk | Could someone please say "Hello, World!" ? |
| 09:50.33 | [Liquidor] | Hello, World! |
| 09:50.33 | FISKER_Q | NICE |
| 09:50.33 | [Liquidor] | :) |
| 09:50.36 | FISKER_Q | someone finally made a parser for wowhead |
| 09:50.42 | pb_ee1 | Shoot, [Liquidor] just did it before me |
| 09:50.54 | [Liquidor] | Hello, World! |
| 09:51.01 | [Liquidor] | Nope, nothing |
| 09:51.09 | pb_ee1 | Now he's bugged :p |
| 09:51.15 | Diao | link FISKER_Q? |
| 09:51.18 | [Liquidor] | Hello World! |
| 09:51.29 | Mikk | Uh oh, my helloworld.irp developed AI :S |
| 09:52.01 | [Liquidor] | Mikk, back to ["Score"] = function(self, arg1, arg2) DoSomething; end --- how many arguments should I send? the last 2 or all 3? |
| 09:52.19 | [Liquidor] | removing brackets |
| 09:52.19 | Mikk | you'll need to send all three there since you're not calling it with ":" notation |
| 09:52.22 | pb_ee1 | I've finally finished the basis of what I wanted to do: http://www.wowace.com/wiki/AceLibs |
| 09:52.26 | Mikk | remember: |
| 09:52.32 | [Liquidor] | But ehm |
| 09:52.38 | [Liquidor] | What should I send? :S |
| 09:52.39 | pb_ee1 | Hope it can be usefull when you change your addons |
| 09:52.43 | [Liquidor] | I only need those 2 arguments |
| 09:52.56 | Mikk | function MyTable:MyMember(foo,bar) is the SAME as MyTable.MyMember = function(self,foo,bar) |
| 09:53.01 | Mikk | So don't pass self then =) |
| 09:53.08 | [Liquidor] | thought so |
| 09:53.15 | Elkano | hm... SKK=I... |
| 09:53.35 | Mikk | And MyTable:MyMember("a", "b") is the SAME as MyTable.MyMember(MyTable, "a", "b") |
| 09:54.18 | FISKER_Q | tar -xvjf also unbunzips a bunzip right? |
| 09:54.32 | NightHawkTheSane | FISKER_Q: yes |
| 09:54.51 | phyber | no, it bunzips a bzip. why would you bunzip something that was already bunzipped? :p |
| 09:54.59 | Elkano | SKK=L x SKKx=L x Kx(Kx) = L x x = L x Ix = I ... ok... fits |
| 09:55.07 | FISKER_Q | haha |
| 09:55.11 | NightHawkTheSane | well, yeah, but my answer was less pedantic. |
| 09:55.18 | Elkano | anyone able to follow? ;) |
| 09:55.25 | Mikk | no =P |
| 09:56.00 | Elkano | compositonal logic... got an examn on that stuff on saturday :/ |
| 09:56.09 | Mikk | whewt |
| 09:56.13 | Elkano | funny thin is that it seems to be turing complete... |
| 09:56.42 | Sole | compositonal logic: what degree requires that? software eng? |
| 09:57.09 | Elkano | but having seen a deduction for a combinatorical term for "L x (L y yx)" I shiver :/ |
| 09:57.29 | Elkano | computer science |
| 09:57.50 | Mikk | bollox |
| 09:57.57 | B|Cottnonmouth | hello there people |
| 09:57.59 | Elkano | currently still studying on diploma |
| 09:58.35 | NightHawkTheSane | i took a logic course once. |
| 09:58.44 | NightHawkTheSane | That was like.. 6 years ago though |
| 09:58.45 | B|Cottnonmouth | anyone not busy enough who i can bug with nub mod questions? |
| 09:58.49 | Mikk | I wonder when the world will wake up and realize that a good three fourths of what's being taught in CS classes is utter and complete bollox |
| 09:59.08 | Mikk | Hell. More. |
| 09:59.39 | [Ammo] | I stopped my CS study when I realized they were just years behind on stuff that went on in the world |
| 09:59.39 | NightHawkTheSane | Mikk: eh, looking back at my CS degree, there wasn't that much i'd call useless. |
| 09:59.47 | [Ammo] | it's been partly corrected now but meh |
| 09:59.58 | NightHawkTheSane | Calc was pointless, as was Chemistry. But most of the other stuff is all useful. |
| 10:00.01 | Mikk | Joe CS graduate comes looking for a job with us... can't bloody open a file. |
| 10:00.12 | Mikk | He knows all the background theory |
| 10:00.14 | Mikk | But can't do squat |
| 10:00.15 | Mikk | Yay |
| 10:00.38 | Elkano | pb_ee1: wrt AceLibs maybe scanning the lua files for AceLibrary("<libname>") would be more secure as some authors are to stupid to add all needed libs, especialy when it comes to fubarplugin |
| 10:00.41 | [Ammo] | it's not very motivational to be taught stuff you already know in a language like pascal |
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| 10:00.47 | NightHawkTheSane | Well, uh, taht's what CS is. it's theory. If all you care about is pumping out the latest piece of crap software, then you're in the wrong degree. That's SE, or IT. |
| 10:01.39 | pb_ee1 | Elkano: d'oh, seems much nicer |
| 10:01.46 | Elkano | pb_ee1: also how do you tell what is a lib from toc? x-embedded field? or by the files included? |
| 10:01.58 | pb_ee1 | By the files included |
| 10:02.14 | Mikk | NightHawkTheSane: But that's liek.. vocational. Have to have a PROPER degree! Everyone must study CS! |
| 10:02.28 | pb_ee1 | It's a very simple program, it just needs to get some work on |
| 10:02.44 | NightHawkTheSane | you can have a "proper" degree in SE or IT. you just get laughed at by the CS majors. |
| 10:03.14 | Elkano | well, which of the following would it catch: ./libs/libname/libname.lua ./libname/libname.lua ./libname.lua |
| 10:03.14 | Mikk | And then the CS majors nab your jobs in front of your nose |
| 10:03.29 | pb_ee1 | the first one |
| 10:03.36 | Sole | HAHAHA |
| 10:03.42 | pb_ee1 | libs/<catch>/... |
| 10:03.48 | Sole | I just had some nig rap in my vent |
| 10:03.56 | Sole | ohhp there he goes again |
| 10:03.58 | Sole | this shits gold |
| 10:04.10 | NightHawkTheSane | Mikk: well, according to you, apparently not, because CS majors dont learn anything useful ;) |
| 10:04.17 | phyber | push record butanz. |
| 10:04.26 | [Ammo] | Sole: I guess it's better than a finnish idols contestant covering YMCA |
| 10:04.28 | pb_ee1 | But indeed, it could be much nicer if I parse the lua file and check for the AceLibrary("<libname>") |
| 10:04.36 | Sole | [Ammo]: hahaha |
| 10:04.40 | [Ammo] | which is what we had |
| 10:04.50 | Mikk | NightHawkTheSane: We're an exception. I'm involved in the hiring process, so I check if they actually do know something and don't give a flying fuck about their grades :-P |
| 10:04.56 | Elkano | also check for libs being merged via an AceAddon call |
| 10:05.19 | pb_ee1 | What do you mean? |
| 10:05.25 | Sole | hes white too o_O |
| 10:06.05 | NightHawkTheSane | Mikk: Well who does? Hell, most places barely even care that you graduated, but i guess I digress. |
| 10:06.19 | Elkano | pb_ee1: http://www.wowace.com/wiki/AceAddon-2.0#:new.28....29_.5BStatic.5D |
| 10:06.35 | pb_ee1 | Elkano: i see, you mean --> d'oh you posted the link |
| 10:07.09 | pb_ee1 | Humm and what if a library is merged without using AceAddOn? Is it possible? |
| 10:07.12 | haste | that's one odd link |
| 10:07.28 | Mikk | pb_ee1: why would you want to do that? |
| 10:07.37 | pb_ee1 | AceLibrary("<something>"):new("<...>") |
| 10:07.39 | pb_ee1 | Well |
| 10:07.47 | Sole | yay more rap |
| 10:07.49 | pb_ee1 | I'd like to be able to install only the libs i need |
| 10:08.09 | pb_ee1 | Without using !StandAloneLibraries |
| 10:08.34 | Elkano | pb_ee1: new(...) is provided by AceAddon, not by AceLibrary |
| 10:08.53 | pb_ee1 | Elkano: oops you're right, just mistyped |
| 10:09.05 | Mikk | AEuhuuhh wait a sec |
| 10:09.10 | pb_ee1 | Well not sure |
| 10:09.14 | Mikk | You just jumped from coding to installing libs standalone |
| 10:09.17 | pb_ee1 | Quartz = AceLibrary("AceAddon-2.0"):new("AceConsole-2.0", "AceDB-2.0", "AceEvent-2.0", "AceModuleCore-2.0") |
| 10:09.37 | [Liquidor] | {"foo", "bar", "goat", "sex"} -- Any function in lua to split these values into 1 string? |
| 10:09.50 | [Liquidor] | and add a seperator |
| 10:09.59 | Mikk | [Liquidor]: table.concat(mytable, "<wootseparator>") |
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| 10:10.07 | [Liquidor] | Thanks |
| 10:10.24 | pb_ee1 | Mikk: What do you want to know? :P |
| 10:10.39 | Mikk | I want to know what YOU want to know :-P |
| 10:10.52 | Mikk | You start asking if it's possible to merge libraries (i'm assuming runtime here) |
| 10:10.52 | pb_ee1 | aha :-D |
| 10:10.56 | Mikk | Then you talk about lib folders |
| 10:11.01 | Mikk | THen I get confused :S |
| 10:11.17 | pb_ee1 | First check this: http://www.wowace.com/wiki/AceLIbs |
| 10:11.25 | Elkano | pb_ee1: AL:HasInstance and AL:GetInstance could reveal libs, too |
| 10:11.42 | pb_ee1 | Elkano just adviced me to check in the Lua code rather than the TOC file |
| 10:12.21 | pb_ee1 | I think it is a better idea, but if i do this i need to get all the "patterns" that could contain the name of a lib |
| 10:12.21 | [Ammo] | pb_ee1: the easiest way is to do it manual |
| 10:12.34 | [Ammo] | pb_ee1: in the time you've discussed this you could have installed them :p |
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| 10:12.40 | Elkano | trial and error ;) |
| 10:12.45 | pb_ee1 | [Ammo]: I know, but when you have 40 addons it's a pain in the ass :P |
| 10:12.48 | [Ammo] | yeah and some educated guessing |
| 10:12.52 | Mikk | [Ammo]: he's developing an app to find out which libs should be installed |
| 10:13.17 | NightHawkTheSane | ugh, I tried doing that |
| 10:13.20 | Mikk | Myself, I mostly just install SAL and forget about it. Stuff is LoD anyway |
| 10:13.27 | Mikk | And most libs DO get used |
| 10:13.54 | pb_ee1 | Hummm |
| 10:13.54 | NightHawkTheSane | I gave up when I realized there was no correlation between fields available in latest.xml and what libraries an addon needed. And parsing tocs was too idiotic and only marginally more accurate. |
| 10:14.47 | Mikk | Well.. parsing tocs should be the right way to do it |
| 10:14.58 | pb_ee1 | How are !StandaloneLibs updated on the server? I mean, what events ask for an update of the zip? |
| 10:15.05 | pb_ee1 | Mikk: that is what it does at the moment |
| 10:15.08 | Elkano | Mikk, at least stuff SHOULD be LoD; AceLibrary will then look for the libs and load them on request |
| 10:15.12 | NightHawkTheSane | Mikk: the "right" way to do it is a standard x-* toc field that the latest.xml parses and includes |
| 10:16.29 | Mikk | Elkano: If you optdep and LoD library, won't that cause the lib to load? |
| 10:16.34 | Mikk | and=an |
| 10:17.27 | Elkano | yeah, will work, too. that'sthe way I usualy do it but iirc wrt discussions on the forums, they intend to have the other way used |
| 10:18.17 | Mikk | sounds a bit like reinventing the wheel to me |
| 10:18.48 | Mikk | but then again i haven't actually read the discussions |
| 10:18.54 | Mikk | so i don't even know the reasoning as to why |
| 10:19.04 | pb_ee1 | At the moment, what i'd like to do is make a list taht makes a correlation between the name of the include (ex: AceAddOn-2.0) and the name of the folder of the lib (Ace2 in this case) |
| 10:19.23 | Elkano | well, iirc will now also load libs that are disabled what simplw LoD+optdep wouldnt |
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| 10:19.51 | pb_ee1 | There's not too much libs so it should be possible, but... the list must be kept up to date |
| 10:20.18 | Mikk | pb_ee1: just brute force it. scan the stuff on the svn and its subfolders. |
| 10:20.40 | Mikk | if you find the name of a subfolder, you know what you should be loading |
| 10:20.47 | Mikk | then again, it's totally error prone |
| 10:20.52 | Mikk | some people disembed even the ace2 folder |
| 10:20.55 | Mikk | fuck knows why but |
| 10:21.18 | Elkano | Mikk even worse some people even checked in embedded |
| 10:21.45 | Mikk | hehe |
| 10:21.50 | pb_ee1 | Well yeah |
| 10:21.57 | pb_ee1 | But how should I access to the list? |
| 10:22.12 | pb_ee1 | I mean, to the subfolders: svn? html parsing on svn.wowace.com? |
| 10:22.25 | Tornhoof | anyone happen to remember what function to hook, to properly allow cycircled to reskin dynamically added buttons? |
| 10:22.43 | Mikk | Kinda funny this tbh.. it's back to the "Download a big effin zip with shitloads of libs in it" which was so horribly useless and bad not long ago =P |
| 10:22.51 | Mikk | full circle |
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| 10:24.30 | gold2 | If you've never done any WOW Modding, but you do have a lot of experience with programming, how long would it take to say learn enough to add SWStats Log -> HTML export/analyzis ? Well atleast getting the base of it working (I know it's a completely far fetched/ridiculous question but none the less would be nice to have a somewhat notification of how much time it'd take) =) |
| 10:24.33 | [Ammo] | no fucking way mikk :p |
| 10:24.40 | Mikk | hehe |
| 10:24.55 | [Ammo] | gold2: I suggest not doing that, I suggest using wowwebstats |
| 10:25.05 | [Liquidor] | Only way to retrive the class and level of a player whispering you is by doing a who request? |
| 10:25.05 | [Ammo] | it's complete and can merge multiple logs |
| 10:25.11 | [Ammo] | yes liq |
| 10:25.23 | [Liquidor] | That's just..... ARGH |
| 10:25.28 | Elkano | well, heading home now... l8erz |
| 10:25.32 | [Liquidor] | cya |
| 10:25.53 | gold2 | Well [Ammo] doesn't that require several people in raid to switch over to WWS? |
| 10:26.01 | [Liquidor] | So I have to queue up who queries if I get more than 1 whisper within 5 seconds -.- |
| 10:26.11 | Mikk | [Liquidor]: WhoLib |
| 10:26.32 | pb_ee1 | Mikk: do you mean the prog is useless due to the fact !standalonelibs are now much better? |
| 10:26.54 | NightHawkTheSane | gold2: it doesn't require it, and no one has to "switch over" it's a web based log parser. |
| 10:26.59 | [Ammo] | gold2: not really |
| 10:27.09 | [Ammo] | they only need to run: /combatlog |
| 10:27.14 | Mikk | pb_ee1: no, i was just musing over the fact that there's so much work going into disembedding the embedded libraries =) |
| 10:27.15 | [Ammo] | type it when entering the instnace |
| 10:27.20 | [Ammo] | and then fight till the end of the raid |
| 10:27.26 | [Ammo] | type /combatlog again |
| 10:27.32 | [Liquidor] | remoteCommands[a:lower()](arg1, arg2) -- Error: Attempt to call field "?" (a table value) |
| 10:27.33 | [Ammo] | and grab the file from the logs folder in WoW |
| 10:27.40 | [Ammo] | chuck that through wowwebstats |
| 10:27.41 | [Ammo] | and done |
| 10:27.54 | Mikk | And up the combatlog range |
| 10:28.02 | Mikk | WHich is apparently doable again now in 2.1 |
| 10:28.05 | _dRiN_ | use loggerhead to automate the /combatlog and range : ) |
| 10:28.25 | NightHawkTheSane | Mikk: oh, is it now? |
| 10:28.27 | [Liquidor] | Anyone able to tell me what I did wrong? |
| 10:28.31 | Gagorian | Is Seal of Vengeance a buff on self or debuff on target? |
| 10:28.33 | gold2 | Does WWS analyze spell-rotations though? |
| 10:28.38 | Gagorian | There seems to be some conflicting info |
| 10:28.44 | _dRiN_ | gold2: nope |
| 10:28.44 | [Ammo] | gold2: www.lossendil.com |
| 10:29.03 | NightHawkTheSane | Gagorian: I.. -think- it's both, it's a buff that applies a debuff, I think. |
| 10:29.18 | pb_ee1 | Mikk: Well tbh, I still did not look at embedding/diembedding libraries :-P It's a bit an other world for me atm ;) |
| 10:29.35 | pb_ee1 | Dunno if it would be handy for ChatLog |
| 10:29.40 | pb_ee1 | I suppose not |
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| 10:31.05 | Gagorian | NightHawkTheSane: Well, that would kind of explain the discrepencies I'm seeing |
| 10:31.15 | Gagorian | It's detect on self but applications arent returned properly |
| 10:31.27 | Gagorian | s/detect/detected/ |
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| 10:34.14 | [Liquidor] | Is this wrong? remoteCommands[a:lower()]() |
| 10:34.33 | CIA-22 | 03gagorian * r37775 10DrDamage/ (Data/Paladin.lua DrDamage.lua): |
| 10:34.33 | CIA-22 | DrDamage: |
| 10:34.33 | CIA-22 | - Seal of Vengeance, debuff on target returns proper apps amount? |
| 10:34.33 | CIA-22 | - Judgement of Blood -> Melee crit |
| 10:35.06 | Gagorian | [Liquidor]: nope |
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| 10:35.15 | [Liquidor] | I found out what I did wrong -.- |
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| 10:37.08 | Sole | so apparently SetTextColor(0.5, 0.5, 0.5, 1.0) actually sets the colors to 0.5019xxxxxxxxxxxxxx, etc |
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| 10:37.41 | NightHawkTheSane | really, all those x's? i wonder what number x is? |
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| 10:42.01 | Mikk | Sole: Yeah, they become 0-255 internally. 0.5 gets rounded up to 128. And 128/255=0,50196078431372549019607843137255 |
| 10:42.19 | NightHawkTheSane | yay, maths! |
| 10:42.22 | Mikk | ... or so ;) |
| 10:42.33 | Sole | ahh |
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| 10:42.47 | Kalman| | Yay fixed point errors! |
| 10:42.58 | Sole | hi e-celeb |
| 10:42.59 | Kalman| | Or, alternately, floating lack of precision. |
| 10:43.01 | Kalman| | Hai. |
| 10:43.09 | Seda| | :( pitbull's power spark gives me errors :( |
| 10:43.15 | Mikk | The lack floats? o.O |
| 10:43.26 | NightHawkTheSane | YOU'RE a floating lack of precision! |
| 10:43.31 | Kalman| | Yeah. It's kinda neat, they just go sailing down the street. |
| 10:43.36 | Kalman| | Small children chase after them. |
| 10:43.43 | Sole | whyd you stop posting theorycraft? all the forum nubs are all "IPPON HALP ME DECIDE!" |
| 10:43.46 | NightHawkTheSane | I had a floating lack once. |
| 10:43.48 | NightHawkTheSane | It sunk. :( |
| 10:44.00 | Sole | I had a floating poop, it was great |
| 10:44.10 | Kalman| | Sole: Well. I rerolled, twice, for one. And the WoW forums started to give me migraines. |
| 10:44.10 | Mikk | HUGE, even! |
| 10:44.24 | Sole | Kalman|: not a rogue anymore? |
| 10:44.40 | Kalman| | Nope. Mage and spriest, probably going to switch to the spriest full time. |
| 10:44.43 | Sole | YOU LOST THE FAITH! |
| 10:44.50 | Kalman| | I did, in fact, lose the faith. |
| 10:44.57 | Sole | dont blame ya |
| 10:44.59 | Sole | rogues are kinda ass |
| 10:45.07 | Mikk | Theorycrafting spriests is abit easier yeah :-P |
| 10:45.13 | Sole | if I actually gave a shit, I would level my shammy up to 70 |
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| 10:45.24 | Sole | rogues are the only class who really need lots of theorycraft IMO |
| 10:45.35 | Kalman| | Eh, any DPS class benefits from it. |
| 10:45.38 | Sole | This is based on my broad experience of looking at other forums for a couple minutes |
| 10:45.47 | Sole | which is enough imo |
| 10:45.57 | Kalman| | Rogue forums just happened to have a particularly active bunch of theorycrafters for a while. |
| 10:45.58 | NightHawkTheSane | rogues can be nailed down to almost pure math, warriors and shammies are a bit fuzzier |
| 10:45.59 | Mikk | Kalman|: Certainly. But the amount of theorycrafting for rogues >>>>>> any other class |
| 10:46.10 | Kalman| | Amount != usefulness. :p |
| 10:46.15 | Sole | yar |
| 10:46.20 | NightHawkTheSane | well, at one point they could, more recent abilities made that a bit fuzzier, but meh |
| 10:46.34 | Sole | back when I raided, I loved how everyone laughed at me for being combat daggers |
| 10:46.42 | ilifin | laughed? |
| 10:46.48 | Sole | then someone decided to let the mass population know that combat daggers was actually good |
| 10:46.57 | ilifin | people laughed at me too, but they stopped once I started outdpsing people while still having greens |
| 10:46.57 | Sole | they stopped laughing after that |
| 10:47.02 | Mikk | Well... frostmage theorycraft = get all talents that make you hurt more, get enuf +hit.. then if a piece of gear has more +dmg than the other, the first one is better. Easy! =) |
| 10:47.03 | Sole | ^_^ |
| 10:47.23 | ilifin | frostmage is one butan |
| 10:47.36 | Sole | I was getting 2nd/1st in BWL, but I wasnt optimally geared for CD at all and the guy in 1st was oh so geared :( |
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| 10:48.44 | Sole | Kalman: What do you think of new sword spec? |
| 10:48.51 | Kalman| | Very nice improvement to it. |
| 10:48.57 | Sole | I havent done the maths, Im sure you have though |
| 10:49.00 | Kalman| | Also nice of them to finally admit it'd been broken forever. |
| 10:49.18 | Sole | yeah it is most likely my next pvp specialization |
| 10:49.28 | Sole | depending on the season 2 weps, might go hemo or combat sword |
| 10:49.52 | Sole | crits are crits, but procing sword specs is just fun with a beefy main hand |
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| 10:50.07 | Kalman| | Well, new sword spec is pretty much strictly superior to fist spec. |
| 10:51.16 | Sole | indeedy |
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| 10:51.29 | Sole | does all this rogue talk make you want to come back to your rogue? |
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| 10:51.39 | Kalman| | Nah. |
| 10:51.42 | yacoob | "Talk rogue to me, baby" |
| 10:51.43 | Kalman| | He's 62 or 63, I forget. |
| 10:51.43 | yacoob | 8) |
| 10:51.51 | Sole | wow the faith is really gone :( |
| 10:51.51 | Kalman| | I intend to level him eventually for quest cash. |
| 10:52.00 | Kalman| | He's my DE bot now, for the most part. |
| 10:52.07 | evl | For cash, Netherwing + Ogri'la Daily quests > * |
| 10:52.21 | Sole | to be honest, I gave up on rogue also because of how ass we are in current arenas |
| 10:52.24 | Matrix110 | skyguard dailys are faster |
| 10:52.28 | Sole | but there is hope with a 4 dps, 1 healer matrix |
| 10:52.32 | evl | Matrix110: nothing is faster than booterang :P |
| 10:52.38 | Sole | BOOTERANG! |
| 10:52.39 | Kalman| | ev1: I can't do Netherwing dailies, no epic mount. |
| 10:52.52 | NightHawkTheSane | bleh, i need to effing do that damn netherwing quest, and the 5 mans for ogri'la. |
| 10:53.06 | evl | Netherwing q's are so simple :P |
| 10:53.06 | Kalman| | The Ogrila/Skyguard dailies are nice, though. |
| 10:54.28 | Stephmw | evl: I just need that damn 300 riding skill to start |
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| 10:56.00 | [Liquidor] | Is the table index (or ordered) if I use mytable[variable] and then later mytable[variable2] ? |
| 10:56.08 | [Liquidor] | indexed* |
| 10:56.19 | Sole | Fisker is an e-celeb too |
| 10:58.23 | renchap | svn.wowace.com is now uptodate |
| 10:58.37 | JoshBorke | [Liquidor]: hash tables are never ordered |
| 10:58.43 | [Liquidor] | ok |
| 10:59.15 | [Liquidor] | table.insert() is for indexed tables only aight? |
| 10:59.29 | JoshBorke | [Liquidor]: yes |
| 10:59.32 | JoshBorke | which can be ordered |
| 10:59.44 | sbu | morning :) |
| 10:59.50 | [Liquidor] | Data is added as [0]... [1]... aight? |
| 10:59.55 | [Ammo] | not 0 |
| 10:59.59 | [Ammo] | starts at 1 |
| 11:00.04 | [Liquidor] | ye well, dynamic so don't need to know anyway |
| 11:01.05 | FISKER_Q | why Sole? |
| 11:01.31 | Sole | FISKER_Q: your name is on WoWhead comments for the Ashes of A'lar mount |
| 11:01.39 | Sole | and how you discovered it |
| 11:02.53 | Sole | hahahaa |
| 11:03.16 | Sole | you know that kid Ezra from Make-A-Wish foundation made a crossbow |
| 11:03.48 | Sole | I think we just figured out its name on vent "Crossbow of Death" |
| 11:03.55 | [Liquidor] | Sole, link |
| 11:03.59 | Sole | badumpsh |
| 11:04.15 | Matrix110 | cant we get it from Armory the item? |
| 11:04.16 | Sole | google Ezra, Make-A-Wish, Blizzard :P |
| 11:04.22 | Sole | I dont have the article open right now |
| 11:04.36 | Sole | hes got a brain tumour so blizz let him visit their HQs |
| 11:04.48 | Sole | and let him create an item and some npcs for WoW that they'll put in next patch |
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| 11:04.57 | Sole | and gave him a fully geared 70 character |
| 11:05.07 | FISKER_Q | Although i'm gonna sound like a duche for saying this, i hoped and thought it was only for PTR |
| 11:05.21 | FISKER_Q | well making the quest and the items are alright of course |
| 11:05.35 | FISKER_Q | But still giving him epixxxx and a mount that doesn't drop yet is kinda over the top |
| 11:05.43 | Sole | "Crossbow of Death" I know its bad to laugh but... |
| 11:05.45 | Matrix110 | The Terokar Chat was like this: "Did you know Blizzard gave a boy with cancer a fully epic geared Lvl 70" "Nope" "But i want cancer now" |
| 11:05.58 | Sole | FISKER_Q: THE KIDS GONNA DIE YOU INSENSITIVE PRICK! |
| 11:06.14 | Sole | Matrix110: lol |
| 11:06.23 | FISKER_Q | hehe Sole :P |
| 11:06.26 | FISKER_Q | well he might not die |
| 11:06.37 | FISKER_Q | But still i'm a bit disappointed hearing that he got it on live realms |
| 11:06.42 | FISKER_Q | but not butthurting over it :P |
| 11:06.55 | FISKER_Q | Especially not since it's just some heroic only items and some pvp gear |
| 11:06.59 | CIA-22 | 03evilelvis * r37776 10eeShards/eeShards.toc: eeShards - toc update |
| 11:07.05 | FISKER_Q | oh and a few drops from gruul/magtheridon |
| 11:07.09 | Sole | do you want to be butthurting? |
| 11:07.15 | NightHawkTheSane | oh, he does. |
| 11:07.21 | FISKER_Q | oh yeah |
| 11:07.25 | FISKER_Q | free trip to blizzard plz! |
| 11:07.39 | FISKER_Q | Hey if i got a make-a-wish foundation trip i'd balance the game instead lol :P |
| 11:07.52 | [Ammo] | hey fisker, inject yourself with HIV, and gogogo |
| 11:08.02 | FISKER_Q | At the end of the day Tigole would probably wish i just died |
| 11:08.07 | wobin | sedatedChipmunk: re MrPlow, see, that shows how old MrPlow is. It rates all the way back to Build your first Ace addon! |
| 11:08.17 | wobin | And probably from Rowne's example addon =P |
| 11:08.25 | FISKER_Q | oh it's that time of year again |
| 11:08.33 | FISKER_Q | datamining the mpq's for icons :( |
| 11:08.38 | FISKER_Q | do not want etc. |
| 11:09.00 | FISKER_Q | need it for my dkp |
| 11:09.07 | FISKER_Q | since allakhazam does't update |
| 11:09.12 | FISKER_Q | well atleast not often enough |
| 11:10.29 | FISKER_Q | that reminds me |
| 11:10.36 | FISKER_Q | i feel like a duche on a totally unrelated story |
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| 11:11.09 | FISKER_Q | Some guy i know that does some programming told me that his company that currently has him as intern would definately hire him, even if we was sick the rest of his internship |
| 11:11.13 | CIA-22 | 03tornhoof * r37777 10Yata/ (Core.lua Options.lua): |
| 11:11.13 | CIA-22 | Yata: |
| 11:11.13 | CIA-22 | - experimental reload on reskill |
| 11:11.13 | CIA-22 | - added Reload button instead of /console reloadui |
| 11:11.13 | CIA-22 | - Reload only reloads Yata |
| 11:11.31 | FISKER_Q | I thought they meant sick as in "i don't wanna go to work today" so i said "Hehe don't wanna go to work for a couple of weeks?" |
| 11:11.38 | FISKER_Q | To which he replied "No, i have cancer" |
| 11:11.46 | FISKER_Q | :/ |
| 11:11.57 | NightHawkTheSane | lol, douche. |
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| 11:14.57 | gold2 | ooh |
| 11:15.01 | gold2 | that ezra story was to sad |
| 11:15.05 | gold2 | i actually got a tear or 10 at work |
| 11:15.42 | gold2 | He should have asked them to buff mages |
| 11:16.07 | gold2 | I'm sure there is someone out there desperate enough to contract malaria or aids or something just to get that deal and ask them to balance mages |
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| 11:16.43 | nevcairiel | i dont think they would do something like that :P |
| 11:16.55 | gold2 | Ah come on |
| 11:17.12 | nevcairiel | or un-patch it once he died |
| 11:17.13 | wobin | They'd do it |
| 11:17.17 | wobin | then revert it when he died |
| 11:17.21 | nevcairiel | hehe |
| 11:17.21 | wobin | hehe |
| 11:17.24 | gold2 | a 10 year old sitting there with deadly cancer in a wheelchair saying "*Crry crry hikst cough Id like the 10% damage coefficient nerf on improved fireball to be removed" |
| 11:17.33 | gold2 | it'd get done in a heartbeat |
| 11:17.44 | wobin | nevcairiel: We're clearly spending too much time together =P |
| 11:18.13 | nevcairiel | shh dont tell anyone! |
| 11:19.37 | nevcairiel | i need a name choice now .. Bartender4 or something like Bartender+ .. i kinda like the + thing. Maybe BT3+ ? I dunno :D |
| 11:19.51 | [Liquidor] | Does Ace have a builtin print_r ? |
| 11:20.03 | [Liquidor] | For those of you who knows what print_r is |
| 11:20.11 | nevcairiel | php print_r? |
| 11:20.12 | [Liquidor] | I'd like to see what my table holds |
| 11:20.12 | [Ammo] | PrintLiteral |
| 11:20.14 | [Liquidor] | ye |
| 11:20.14 | [Ammo] | I think |
| 11:20.17 | nevcairiel | yeah |
| 11:20.25 | [Ammo] | it's part of aceconsole |
| 11:20.28 | nevcairiel | AceLibrary("AceConsole-2.0"):PrintLiteral(...) |
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| 11:20.39 | nevcairiel | or just /print |
| 11:20.44 | nevcairiel | err |
| 11:20.46 | nevcairiel | ./dump |
| 11:20.46 | Morgh | nevcairiel: Why a new name? New version coming out, or just a tweak of 3? |
| 11:20.58 | wobin | or if it's in your addon, self:PrintLiteral |
| 11:21.11 | nevcairiel | i wouldnt change the name if it would be a minor tweak :P |
| 11:21.26 | wobin | Bartender (Ladies Night) |
| 11:21.35 | [Ammo] | rofl |
| 11:21.40 | [Ammo] | nevcairiel: what changed? |
| 11:21.46 | Tornhoof | bartender 3 1/3 ? |
| 11:21.52 | nevcairiel | heh Tornhoof |
| 11:22.20 | NightHawkTheSane | nevcairiel: my 2c, just go with Bartender 4. Silly naming schemes like Bartender+, Bartender Advance, Bartender Double Plus Good Super Mega Ultra, and whatever are just silly and confusing :p |
| 11:22.21 | Morgh | Bartender 4 The Ladies |
| 11:22.23 | Morgh | :p |
| 11:22.29 | Tornhoof | bartnender pi |
| 11:22.40 | NightHawkTheSane | (although yes, Bartender Pi Would be hawt) |
| 11:23.12 | wobin | Bartendered |
| 11:23.12 | [Liquidor] | I can't insert data to my table :S |
| 11:23.26 | wobin | Bartender 22/7 |
| 11:23.29 | Morgh | You should assume people are stupid, and not give it cumpleecaitid names :p |
| 11:23.34 | nevcairiel | [Ammo]: a rewrite of most the actionbar code, allowing dynamic bar creations with unlimited number of buttons ( well, unlimted as in max(x,120) ) |
| 11:23.44 | NightHawkTheSane | anyway, to bed. |
| 11:23.45 | [Ammo] | hmm ok |
| 11:23.48 | nevcairiel | er, min not max |
| 11:23.48 | nevcairiel | :D |
| 11:23.54 | Ominous | what is the difference betwene /print and /dump |
| 11:24.04 | [Ammo] | but the basics are still the same? |
| 11:24.10 | [Ammo] | all blizzard bars per default |
| 11:24.12 | [Ammo] | etc |
| 11:24.27 | wobin | Ominous: I don't think there is a difference |
| 11:24.28 | [Ammo] | oh my lunch got brought in |
| 11:24.34 | nevcairiel | [Ammo]: yes that the default setup. |
| 11:24.36 | wobin | I think it's an alias for the other |
| 11:24.46 | nevcairiel | but you can wipe that and setup a full new layout if you want to |
| 11:24.53 | Mikk | "ChatAmbienceVolume" = "0.6" |
| 11:25.04 | Mikk | "ChatMusicVolume" = "0.4" |
| 11:25.14 | Mikk | mmm yep seems they're already developing the ingame comms |
| 11:25.25 | Morgh | nevcairiel: Time to add requests then? Always looked for the ability to hide bars in combat, and show them when out of combat =) |
| 11:25.40 | wobin | Mikk: Cool |
| 11:25.49 | wobin | Now if only I could figure out how to reroute stuff |
| 11:26.14 | Mikk | (me updated http://www.wowwiki.com/Config.wtf_defaults btw... hence the revelations) |
| 11:26.24 | Mikk | why the hell am i MEing in parenthesis? |
| 11:26.45 | Mikk | bloody jar-jar |
| 11:26.51 | wobin | hehe |
| 11:27.00 | Morgh | Ewww... that name *urck* |
| 11:27.06 | Mikk | ahhh much better. thanks wobin. |
| 11:27.06 | wobin | You'd need to use meesa though |
| 11:27.27 | wobin | *glurcq* |
| 11:27.43 | Mikk | CUT! |
| 11:28.09 | Mikk | hahahahaha |
| 11:28.36 | Mikk | What was it that you wanted to rerout btw? o.O |
| 11:29.12 | Mikk | And btw "/dump" becomes quite a bit different with iriel's devtools installed |
| 11:29.37 | wobin | yeah |
| 11:29.55 | wobin | well figuring out how to reroute speech to headset and sound to external speakers etc |
| 11:30.02 | wobin | (eventually) |
| 11:30.12 | Stephmw | Mikk: is it dangerous to any gnomes that may be standing beneath you? |
| 11:31.52 | Mikk | hehe |
| 11:31.59 | Mikk | <PROTECTED> |
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| 11:32.29 | FISKER_Q | lets say i have to directories /var/www/dkp1 and /var/www/dkp2 how do i copy the contents of dkp1 to dkp2 |
| 11:32.36 | FISKER_Q | Last time i tried stuff went horribly wrong |
| 11:32.47 | FISKER_Q | dkp2 already exists |
| 11:32.53 | FISKER_Q | which is what i guess was the problem |
| 11:33.25 | Stephmw | shouldn't be... cp -fR source/* dest/ should work fine |
| 11:33.42 | FISKER_Q | ah yeah |
| 11:33.45 | FISKER_Q | never used -f |
| 11:33.52 | Stephmw | can't remember if it also copies .dot files though |
| 11:34.05 | Stephmw | -f == clobber destination |
| 11:34.10 | FISKER_Q | clobber? :o |
| 11:34.44 | Stephmw | overwrite, destroy, take your poison |
| 11:34.54 | Stephmw | if you want to do a proper sync, use rsync |
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| 11:53.05 | Flying-Penguin | anyone still up at this houre? |
| 11:53.21 | nevcairiel | its 2pm |
| 11:53.23 | nevcairiel | what hour? |
| 11:53.25 | evl | yeah ;) |
| 11:53.25 | Flying-Penguin | 0o |
| 11:53.51 | Flying-Penguin | Well I am having a problem with Antagonist |
| 11:54.22 | Flying-Penguin | if you have used antagonist (ant) you know that there are three anchors, however one of my sets of bars is not proply tied to its anchor |
| 11:55.07 | Flying-Penguin | *the bars for Anch 3 are tied to anch2 |
| 11:55.23 | nevcairiel | does anyone know of a mod which tracks specific white drops in instances ? I want to know who looted mark of illidari in SSC |
| 11:55.44 | Flying-Penguin | wow I feel like an idiot |
| 11:55.49 | Flying-Penguin | forget what I just said kk |
| 11:56.17 | Flying-Penguin | Uhh nevcairiel doesn't wow chat log show loot 0o |
| 11:56.27 | Leialyn | can't you use a loot monitor and set it to white nevcairiel? |
| 11:56.27 | nevcairiel | it does |
| 11:56.45 | nevcairiel | perfect would be a mod which only tracks items i tell it to :P |
| 11:56.51 | Leialyn | humn :> |
| 11:56.56 | cryogen | anyone else get a lua error from batrender3 when logging in? |
| 11:56.59 | nevcairiel | guess i will have to fix something up myelf |
| 11:57.09 | Leialyn | yep nev ^^ |
| 11:57.21 | cryogen | batrender.. hmm sounds like an interesting mod |
| 11:57.30 | harldephin | does anyone know of a mod which tracks any white drops anywhere and shows them in the creature's tooltip ? |
| 11:57.57 | Flying-Penguin | wow so much abought white loot =p |
| 11:58.13 | harldephin | well. white and better. |
| 11:58.18 | nevcairiel | imho they should change mark of illidari to a green loot |
| 11:58.23 | nevcairiel | so the RL can need it away |
| 11:58.24 | Leialyn | ya :x |
| 11:58.40 | Flying-Penguin | what is mark of illidari? |
| 11:58.50 | Leialyn | drops in ssc/tk etc |
| 11:58.57 | nevcairiel | trash drop in raid instances, you can trade it for flasks |
| 11:58.58 | Leialyn | and can be traded against a flask |
| 11:59.22 | Leialyn | it should be used for supreme power, since they are most expensive ones ... at least at my server xD |
| 11:59.49 | harldephin | which would that be |
| 11:59.50 | CIA-22 | 03sole * r37778 10Gladiator/ (Gladiator.lua Locals/enUS.lua frame.lua options.lua): |
| 11:59.50 | CIA-22 | Gladiator: |
| 11:59.50 | CIA-22 | - Added 'Text Color Method' and 'Text Color' options. Same as the bar color counterparts. |
| 11:59.50 | CIA-22 | - Bar/text colors will now change the frame colors if you have the glad frame open. |
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| 12:00.51 | Iceroth | duh.. "make sure you install the driver before plugging in the bluetooth adapter" - did just that, driver installation tells me "unable to find bluetooth adapter, cancelling installation" >.< |
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| 12:01.04 | Leialyn | rofl |
| 12:01.11 | Flying-Penguin | wow how is it that I don't know of thease |
| 12:01.27 | Flying-Penguin | where do you trade them in at.. lol $10 says I have trashed them =/ |
| 12:01.43 | Sole | Flying-Penguin: if youre having probs with antagonist again, just ping me. I woulda replied if I had known. |
| 12:02.36 | Flying-Penguin | Sorry Sole, it was just my own stupidity.. I had bound CDs to anchor 2 and forgot abought it =p |
| 12:02.57 | Sole | lol |
| 12:03.05 | Sole | I admit, the Antagonist options could use a revision |
| 12:03.11 | Sole | but not in the current project |
| 12:04.07 | Flying-Penguin | its intresting how the options work as a drop down, yet I cant seem to find them in Fubar.. though.. again probly just not looking hard 0o |
| 12:04.18 | Sole | I didnt add a fubar plugin |
| 12:04.21 | Sole | probly should |
| 12:04.30 | Sole | but not in the current project :P |
| 12:04.53 | Flying-Penguin | you just keep falling back on that.. j/k =p |
| 12:05.00 | Sole | :D |
| 12:05.12 | Sole | hey, it works for me. thats all I really care about |
| 12:05.22 | Flying-Penguin | GRRRR wtb term baced IRC with diff colored names than text... |
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| 12:21.31 | CIA-22 | 03mikk * r37779 10Baggins/Baggins_ItemOps.lua: |
| 12:21.31 | CIA-22 | Baggins: |
| 12:21.31 | CIA-22 | - Nuke leftover debug message. Whoopise |
| 12:21.31 | CIA-22 | - Make compression work with items received from different sources. Who the heck would have thought a Quail looted by Alice would have a different itemstring from one looted by Bob. |
| 12:24.53 | [Liquidor] | Pastebin is currently locked so using another pastebin atm: http://pastebin.4programmers.net/2332 --- Why doesn't my loop work? |
| 12:25.27 | nevcairiel | ipairs doesnt work on hash tables |
| 12:25.28 | nevcairiel | use pairs |
| 12:25.31 | nevcairiel | without i |
| 12:25.33 | [Liquidor] | ok |
| 12:26.34 | [Liquidor] | Thanks. worked |
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| 12:33.45 | [Liquidor] | How do I escape | ? |
| 12:33.54 | nevcairiel | with another | |
| 12:34.24 | [Liquidor] | Awful |
| 12:34.54 | wobin | heh |
| 12:34.58 | wobin | It's a vicious circle |
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| 12:39.26 | CIA-22 | 03azonia * r37780 10FuBar_WhisperFu/ (WhisperFu.lua WhisperFuLocale-enUS.lua WhisperFuSpamKeys.lua): |
| 12:39.26 | CIA-22 | FuBar_WhisperFu: |
| 12:39.26 | CIA-22 | - updated some spam keys (delete, then reinstate defaults to get them :) ) |
| 12:39.26 | CIA-22 | - fixed reporting spammers for WOW 2.1's UI |
| 12:39.26 | CIA-22 | - added more enUS locales |
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| 12:42.33 | moonsorrow | since yesterday I get this error sometimes, dunno where it's coming from: [2007/05/31 14:37:42-844-x1]: Roster-2.1-33934 (Aloft):412: Usage: UnitName("unit") |
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| 12:42.34 | vhaarr | moonsorrow: Add a debugstack() print before the error. |
| 12:43.00 | moonsorrow | ok, now I have to get that error again |
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| 13:05.01 | vodrin | why do certain addons cause me to get error #132 on load, especially in non-embed mode |
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| 13:11.34 | CIA-22 | 03punkie * r37781 10pDebuffList/: pDebuffList: Making Folder |
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| 13:17.46 | CIA-22 | 03punkie * r37782 10pDebuffList/ (core.lua libs/ pDebuffList.toc): pDebuffList: Shows if a focus target has valuable raid debuffs |
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| 13:29.33 | wobin | It was interesting =) |
| 13:29.47 | wobin | Not enough toys in the showbag though |
| 13:29.55 | wobin | I was expecting more =) |
| 13:30.02 | [Ammo] | what kind of toys did you get |
| 13:30.06 | wobin | But for a free conference, I guess... |
| 13:30.20 | wobin | Nothing exciting, some stickers, a nice pad and a pen =P |
| 13:30.41 | Sais | No mug? |
| 13:30.53 | wobin | no =( |
| 13:31.02 | wobin | I don't think it would have fit into the folder |
| 13:31.06 | Sais | That might have made it worthwhile ;P |
| 13:31.09 | wobin | A mug would have been cool |
| 13:31.24 | wobin | I guess I'd have to work for them =) |
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| 13:32.10 | mok_ | hi there! |
| 13:33.07 | Iceroth | piece oh shit bluetooth adapter >.< |
| 13:33.10 | Iceroth | *of |
| 13:33.29 | wobin | hehe I think 'oh' is more appropriate, somehow =) |
| 13:33.53 | Iceroth | worst part is that targus' website claims it's vista compatible |
| 13:33.55 | Iceroth | BS |
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| 13:34.47 | Iceroth | it's as much vista compatible as KTM is efficient |
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| 13:34.54 | Chompers | zing |
| 13:35.14 | wobin | Vista probably polls too =) |
| 13:37.15 | mok_ | i have a problem. I'd like to do something like this: http://ace.pastey.net/46810 but i dont get how to pass name the right way. this way now everytime i click on one of the generated checkboxes it checks/unchecks ALL of them. |
| 13:39.54 | sbu | uhm - do you have to pass 'name' to the function? |
| 13:39.58 | sbu | *guessing* |
| 13:40.54 | kenlyric | awww, fatality |
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| 13:44.39 | sbu | mh, digicamfu doesnt work :/ |
| 13:45.09 | Gngsk | Ominous, ping |
| 13:45.14 | Ominous | pong |
| 13:45.32 | Gngsk | why doesn't classtimer use candybar? |
| 13:45.35 | wobin | I always envisage a ping, but really deep, like a bell |
| 13:45.43 | wobin | that echoes |
| 13:45.57 | Ominous | cos it dosent |
| 13:46.12 | Gngsk | ahh |
| 13:46.16 | Ominous | ill write up a reason on the forums later as i really cant be asked to explain it for like the 5th time |
| 13:46.21 | Gngsk | heh |
| 13:46.25 | Gngsk | figured it was a faq |
| 13:46.34 | wobin | I think "cos it doesn't" is a fine answer =P |
| 13:46.48 | Gngsk | I wish I could do the things to candybars that I can to yours though |
| 13:47.02 | wobin | those poor candybars =( |
| 13:47.46 | [Ammo] | Ominous: you haven't given a good solid reason yet, or pointed out stuff missing from candybar |
| 13:48.06 | [Ammo] | just because you have to 'code around' something is weird, because implementing your own bars = more work |
| 13:48.13 | Ominous | its not missing stuff its just how i scan for effects |
| 13:48.25 | [Ammo] | scanning for effects has nothing to do with the bars |
| 13:49.12 | [Ammo] | they are only a visual representation of the result of your scan |
| 13:50.27 | nevcairiel | man |
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| 13:50.35 | nevcairiel | i hate win32 ui development |
| 13:50.42 | wobin | For a good reason |
| 13:50.44 | nevcairiel | especially in delphi <_< |
| 13:51.00 | wobin | Man, you're really asking for it, aren't you? =P |
| 13:51.20 | nevcairiel | university is making me do it :( |
| 13:51.55 | wobin | =( |
| 13:51.58 | wobin | bastards |
| 13:52.07 | nevcairiel | next semester is finally C |
| 13:52.12 | nevcairiel | no ui crap anymore =P |
| 13:52.17 | nevcairiel | good linux console C |
| 13:52.17 | nevcairiel | :p |
| 13:52.18 | wobin | I mean, when will you ever use delphi to write win32 ui in real life? =P |
| 13:52.35 | wobin | Aside from "Never, after seeing this semester through..." |
| 13:52.35 | nevcairiel | i hope never |
| 13:52.42 | wobin | hey, maybe that's their plan |
| 13:52.46 | nevcairiel | hehe |
| 13:52.51 | nevcairiel | borlands IDE is so crappy |
| 13:52.55 | nevcairiel | its damn slow |
| 13:52.57 | sbu | you will do it in java :p |
| 13:53.01 | sbu | *hides* |
| 13:53.22 | nevcairiel | plus i always get bored when i do the UI |
| 13:53.45 | nevcairiel | i can only be motivated by complex algorithms or other complex programming issues :P |
| 13:54.29 | Iceroth | there's nothing motivational to try to pass a course where you have to debug heap sort with pen and paper at exam >:< |
| 13:54.44 | nevcairiel | lol |
| 13:54.56 | nevcairiel | yeah, programming with pen and paper is teh suck |
| 13:55.04 | Iceroth | and all that O(n) stuff makes my head hurt |
| 13:55.16 | Iceroth | like, isn't it enough that i know when to choose a list and when a hash table >.< |
| 13:55.37 | nevcairiel | am i glad i passed that exam already |
| 13:55.47 | nevcairiel | i wonder what this delphi class is about tho |
| 13:55.50 | nevcairiel | nothing new, really |
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| 13:56.24 | nevcairiel | plus we are not allowed to use break to exit loops |
| 13:56.25 | nevcairiel | ftl. |
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| 13:56.48 | kenlyric | tagcompiler, is this a new library? |
| 13:56.56 | Iceroth | goto?) |
| 13:57.19 | nevcairiel | anyway i need a break |
| 13:57.48 | nevcairiel | (next time i should start earlier, not the day before i have to send it in :P ) |
| 14:01.35 | nevcairiel | lol |
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| 14:02.49 | yacoob | hm, not broken enough.. |
| 14:04.23 | wobin | Whack-a-Nev |
| 14:06.17 | Stephmw | whack'a'dev is so much more fun |
| 14:06.26 | Stephmw | but still not as good as Punt'a'Gnome |
| 14:08.14 | krka | dude... the O(n) stuff is the fundamentals of complexity theory |
| 14:08.22 | krka | and it's fun stuff |
| 14:08.44 | krka | and programming with pen & paper can be very useful |
| 14:08.51 | krka | you tend to think through it more |
| 14:08.54 | Stephmw | krka: it still makes my head hurt |
| 14:08.57 | Iceroth | fun like poking your eye with rusty nail or sitting naked in a pile of glass |
| 14:09.06 | Thrae | My algorithmn is O(NINE-THOUSAND!!!!!!111one) |
| 14:09.16 | yacoob | not O(MG)? :D |
| 14:09.24 | Stephmw | Iceroth: you have such colourful metaphores |
| 14:09.31 | Stephmw | yacoob: aaargh |
| 14:09.33 | Megalon | well, O(NINE-THOUSAND!!!!!!111one) is pretty awesome efficient |
| 14:09.44 | Megalon | as it's the same as O(1) |
| 14:09.59 | nevcairiel | krka: i use pen and paper for some stuff, but being force to in a blatant abstract example in an exam plain sucks =P |
| 14:10.01 | yacoob | ...exactly :D |
| 14:10.02 | Thrae | Megalon: Not if your database contains 100 values ;) That means it takes the same time to parse 100 values as it does to parse 9000. |
| 14:10.29 | nevcairiel | hehe |
| 14:10.53 | Thrae | Anyway, I find algorithmic optimization to be fun to do, but annoying on tests. |
| 14:10.53 | Iceroth | actually i did pass the test.. i have still no clue on how to build a red-black-tree but hey, who cares, i know where i can download the complete implementation |
| 14:10.59 | Megalon | O(1) is the best scaling you can get, so |
| 14:11.19 | Megalon | well, it doens't say anything who bad it begins |
| 14:11.28 | Megalon | s/who/how/ |
| 14:11.35 | Stephmw | Iceroth: it's an easy port to lua anyway :) |
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| 14:12.30 | Thrae | Iceroth: Red-Black-Tree == Swing Tree + R/B designation, gets a little better over Swing |
| 14:12.38 | wobin | O(∞) |
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| 14:13.00 | yacoob | wobin, it's still constant :P |
| 14:13.09 | wobin | constantly HUUUUGE |
| 14:13.21 | Stephmw | O(f(x)) |
| 14:13.31 | Thrae | wobin: Is it over NINE-THOUSAND!!!!!!11ONE? |
| 14:13.33 | CIA-22 | 03toadkiller * r37783 10AutoBar/ (AutoBarButton.lua ChangeList.lua): |
| 14:13.33 | CIA-22 | AutoBar: |
| 14:13.33 | CIA-22 | -- Use items by itemlink. Fixes stack problems during combat. |
| 14:13.45 | krka | Thrae: you're totally wrong |
| 14:14.01 | krka | O(1) = O(2) = O(123981239162391623871523) |
| 14:14.40 | yacoob | krka, aw, you've spoilt the fun 8) |
| 14:14.55 | Stephmw | ... because O(1) == O(n)... with n= anything constant |
| 14:15.16 | wobin | O(i)? |
| 14:15.17 | yacoob | Stephmw, you'd better use O(c) :) |
| 14:15.26 | Tornhoof | hmm stephmw? |
| 14:15.26 | Megalon | 'n' is a bad example :P |
| 14:15.26 | Tornhoof | no |
| 14:15.32 | Thrae | krka: Are you saying Gokuu's power level is equivilent to O(1)? How blasphemous! |
| 14:15.37 | Stephmw | n is the notation. |
| 14:15.45 | Stephmw | don't mess with convention :) |
| 14:15.50 | Tornhoof | O(n) is something different from O(1) |
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| 14:16.04 | yacoob | Stephmw, but O(n) means linear dependency... :) |
| 14:16.08 | Tornhoof | yeh |
| 14:16.10 | Thrae | Even the farmer had O(10) power level! |
| 14:16.25 | Thrae | Well, he had a shotgun. |
| 14:16.27 | Stephmw | yacoob: ah, yes true enough |
| 14:16.40 | nevcairiel | O(10 * n) is prolly better on a small data set then O(9000) tho. |
| 14:16.51 | krka | dude |
| 14:16.55 | krka | you're not using O-notation correctly |
| 14:16.55 | nevcairiel | always remember there is a constant multiplying it |
| 14:16.57 | Megalon | wtf |
| 14:16.57 | Stephmw | yacoob: wonder how we'd evaluate O(sqrt(-1)) |
| 14:17.02 | Tornhoof | actually O(1) is defined as something specific |
| 14:17.09 | yacoob | Stephmw, "done yesterday" :) |
| 14:17.16 | nevcairiel | O(1) means its always the same time, no matter how much data |
| 14:17.20 | Tornhoof | yeh |
| 14:17.34 | Tornhoof | O(n) is per definition slower |
| 14:17.35 | Tornhoof | ;) |
| 14:17.36 | nevcairiel | but it never stats what time that is |
| 14:17.37 | Megalon | it's always less than a fixed value |
| 14:17.39 | nevcairiel | *states |
| 14:17.39 | krka | you can definitely say that O(n) is better than O(1) for limited problems |
| 14:17.43 | Megalon | not always the same |
| 14:17.51 | Tornhoof | you can't say it krka |
| 14:17.56 | Tornhoof | or you shouldn't |
| 14:17.59 | krka | but using O(9000) and O(10 * n) just shows your lack of understanding |
| 14:18.04 | Tornhoof | while you're right time wise |
| 14:18.08 | Tornhoof | complexity wise it's wrong |
| 14:18.19 | yacoob | for each O(n) approach there's a set of input values for which the execution time is better than for the same problem with O(1) approach 8) |
| 14:18.34 | krka | insertion sort can be better than quicksort for very small arrays |
| 14:18.43 | krka | yacoob: that's almost the definition |
| 14:19.02 | yacoob | \o/ I'm not that old, I remember something! |
| 14:19.17 | Iceroth | don't argue with these ppl, they drive you maaaaaad |
| 14:19.18 | Tornhoof | we just care if the n is not in the exponent ;) |
| 14:19.19 | Thrae | I have not found a need for a Red-Black tree in all my hobby programming, heh. |
| 14:19.40 | Thrae | I have used a Skip List once, that was fun and useful. |
| 14:20.15 | krka | basically.... function f1 has a lower complexity than function f2, if you can find a value x such that time(f1(x2) < time(f2(x2)) for all x2 >= x |
| 14:20.33 | Thrae | It was made by some graduate student at UMBC for their thesis, so of course we had to learn about it on Data Structures class ;) |
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| 14:20.39 | krka | where x is input size |
| 14:20.48 | [Ammo] | hmm why doesn't threat-1.0 warlock module include Corruption and Siphon Life in the 'afflictionspells' list |
| 14:20.49 | Iceroth | i skipped quite few classes, does that count? |
| 14:21.06 | wobin | what's a skip list? |
| 14:21.17 | yacoob | wobin, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Skip_list |
| 14:21.21 | krka | it's a list with random pointers to other parts of the list |
| 14:21.23 | krka | weird stuff |
| 14:21.29 | yacoob | linked list with "shortcuts" |
| 14:22.01 | Tornhoof | if you know your trees you're fine |
| 14:22.10 | krka | i just use lua tables for everything these days |
| 14:22.14 | krka | best data structure ever |
| 14:22.38 | wobin | It's true |
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| 14:23.24 | Thrae | krka: Skip List works pretty well, easy to code, easy to use, good scalability |
| 14:23.35 | krka | been pondering implementing suffix arrays in lua though |
| 14:23.36 | krka | that'd be fun |
| 14:24.18 | Thrae | I mostly default to stuff like Lua nowadays for data structures, they keep beating my implementations...then again, if I need something done FAST, I can still do better then Lua. But for most tasks, Lua wins out. |
| 14:27.01 | krka | it's annoying how lua does that |
| 14:27.25 | wobin | damn their efficiency |
| 14:27.35 | wobin | damn it to HELL |
| 14:29.33 | Iceroth | 'normally' when the data sizes are that big that it would really start to matter, you are using some sort of an sql database anyway... |
| 14:30.09 | Iceroth | and pray the gods it's not oracle |
| 14:30.22 | Stephmw | or implemented as a WoW addon... |
| 14:30.27 | Thrae | I code my databases in VisualBasic! |
| 14:30.32 | sbu | uhm - so, size does really matter? :p |
| 14:33.11 | Iceroth | oh btw, i've wondered a few times why they didn't put some lightweight database that mods could use to wow |
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| 14:36.57 | yacoob | Iceroth, you expect blizz devs to think? |
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| 14:38.38 | Iceroth | yacoob, ye i guess i just did.. |
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| 14:39.02 | hypetech | Have any guilds/parties made the conversion from KTM to Omen, and find Omen reliable? |
| 14:39.23 | yacoob | Iceroth, having false assumption, do not expect to get working results :D |
| 14:39.47 | Iceroth | bleh :p |
| 14:39.53 | yacoob | seriously, when I look at the way wow is developed, it make me chuckle |
| 14:39.54 | Iceroth | hypetech, i think it's a bit too early for that |
| 14:40.07 | Iceroth | wait a week or so at least still :) |
| 14:40.35 | Iceroth | sure it does remarkable job already but ppl are lazy and if they get errors, they get scared and angry |
| 14:41.05 | hypetech | ya, I was considering running it side by side with KTM |
| 14:41.08 | hypetech | wasn't sure how new it was |
| 14:41.11 | hypetech | just heard about it |
| 14:41.28 | durcyn_ | that would be a good way to test it. |
| 14:41.32 | Iceroth | yacoob, the patch days.. considering they've had now 2 years of experience of handling those, how can it still be possible that ½ of the servers stay down 10h longer than expected? |
| 14:42.30 | Megalon | too much coffee |
| 14:42.34 | Megalon | too much open server racks |
| 14:42.38 | Megalon | = gg patchday! |
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| 14:42.41 | Megalon | :P |
| 14:42.43 | Gngsk | evl, ping |
| 14:42.51 | evl | pong |
| 14:43.17 | Gngsk | I added ability to switch icon side to hourglass, any interest in adding it? |
| 14:43.23 | yacoob | too much incompetent folks, that are not fired and replaced. |
| 14:43.30 | Gngsk | thinking about adding width/height options next |
| 14:43.55 | evl | sure but I'd rather not overload it with options tbh |
| 14:44.04 | evl | too many addons are doing it these days, monster addons :P |
| 14:44.12 | Gngsk | yeah |
| 14:44.22 | Gngsk | basic manipulation of the bars though |
| 14:44.36 | evl | it's pretty basic, you can move em :P |
| 14:44.44 | Gngsk | can't resize 'em though! |
| 14:45.07 | durcyn | yacoob: i dunno, my job involves doing production deployments to live systems like blizzard does, and nine failures out of ten can be attributed to badly written code :o |
| 14:45.50 | yacoob | durcyn, well, I bet my guess is just a guess, but sometimes I see things that look exactly like "ooops, I forgot to..." |
| 14:46.54 | durcyn | of course half of the crap they churn out comes from india... |
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| 14:49.30 | CIA-22 | 03ammo * r37784 10Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0.lua: Threat-1.0: experimental addition to add KLHTM broadcasted threat to the global threat list, comments outline what should be done more |
| 14:50.44 | Fisker- | so KLHTM syncing support now? |
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| 14:52.52 | sbu | [Ammo]: what happens when running both - threat lib and ktm? ;o |
| 14:53.17 | [Ammo] | then threat lib is used |
| 14:53.26 | [Ammo] | read the diff |
| 14:53.47 | sbu | oh |
| 14:54.04 | sbu | why silly? :/ |
| 14:54.48 | [Ammo] | just because that's what I think about it |
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| 14:55.17 | Fisker- | omg i can level my paladin without having a hearthstone in shattrath anymore |
| 14:55.26 | Fisker- | a shame i'm level 70 |
| 14:56.14 | Chompers | .\AddOns\Gladiator\Gladiator.lua line 426: attempt to compare number with nil |
| 14:56.27 | wobin | Fisker-: how's that? |
| 14:56.35 | Chompers | oh, sole isnt even here |
| 14:57.01 | Fisker- | wobin they put a blood elf paladin trainer in orgrimmar now |
| 14:57.14 | Fisker- | best change in the game since 1.0 |
| 14:57.16 | Fisker- | !!!!!!! |
| 14:57.54 | wobin | omg |
| 14:57.56 | wobin | thank god =) |
| 14:58.11 | Fisker- | indeed |
| 14:58.39 | Fisker- | the only remotely possible way to train skills efficiently were by using HS to shattrath, go to silvermoon, unstuck to shattrath, back to orgrimmar |
| 14:58.40 | Fisker- | :P |
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| 14:59.08 | wobin | rofl =) |
| 14:59.14 | wobin | I never thought of unstucking |
| 14:59.41 | wobin | Alliance side I always ghettohearth if I need to |
| 14:59.45 | Fisker- | :o |
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| 15:00.30 | Chompers | i had to take the zep to stv then fly to undercity |
| 15:00.37 | Chompers | every god damn time |
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| 15:04.16 | Stephen_ | oddly silent in here, anyone awake? >.< |
| 15:05.03 | ven | I'm actually sleeping... and typing from my dream.. -.- |
| 15:05.07 | wobin | it's true |
| 15:05.12 | wobin | we're versed in sleeptyping |
| 15:05.32 | Stephen_ | excellent, I'm half asleep when most awake so we'll get on swimmingly |
| 15:05.43 | sbu | well and Antiarc is even able to commit to svn while sleeping... |
| 15:06.03 | Stephen_ | just wondered, rather than asking antiarc directly, are there any forums/etc for his sig generation script people know of? |
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| 15:06.24 | Stephen_ | small problem I'm trying to fix :D |
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| 15:09.22 | Stephen_ | guess that's a no? :( |
| 15:10.38 | Gngsk | anyone know if it's possible to define how many buff/debuffs per row in pitbull? |
| 15:10.43 | Gngsk | am I blind or is it not possible... |
| 15:11.10 | abbat_w | Gngsk, no |
| 15:11.18 | abbat_w | you can't define this |
| 15:11.26 | Gngsk | not even in the layout? |
| 15:11.31 | abbat_w | but you can play with size and 'snap' option |
| 15:11.43 | abbat_w | Or do some hacks in src |
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| 15:11.58 | abbat_w | Hmm.. I try only std layout (abf) |
| 15:12.33 | CIA-22 | 03ammo * r37785 10Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0.lua: Threat-1.0: read and store the mastertarget for KLHTM threat receival |
| 15:14.21 | Stephen_ | has anyone here installed the armory sig scripts Antiarc has on the SVN? |
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| 15:15.24 | nevcairiel | i have |
| 15:15.28 | nevcairiel | but i had to fix some stuff around in it |
| 15:16.15 | Stephen_ | getting an error about hotlinking not being allowed |
| 15:16.29 | Stephen_ | yet the server which the files are being served from is the same one which is requesting |
| 15:16.37 | Stephen_ | so how is that hotlinking? O.o |
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| 15:17.07 | nevcairiel | its protecting itself |
| 15:17.07 | CIA-22 | 03helium * r37786 10SpecialEventsEmbed/SpecialEvents-Mail-2.0/SpecialEvents-Mail-2.0.lua: |
| 15:17.07 | CIA-22 | SpecialEventsEmbed: |
| 15:17.08 | CIA-22 | SpecialEvents-Mail-2.0 - Updated handle of string token in zhTW. Please note that zhTW sentence seldom use "space" between words. So, almost all patterns which use %s will fail. |
| 15:17.13 | nevcairiel | only allowing access through that image proxy |
| 15:17.17 | nevcairiel | you have to remove that line |
| 15:17.26 | Stephen_ | wha? which line? |
| 15:17.39 | nevcairiel | in sig.php, somewhere at the top |
| 15:17.51 | nevcairiel | it helps knowing php :P |
| 15:18.07 | phyber | Stephen_: where are they in the SVN? |
| 15:18.14 | Fisker- | i never got mine working |
| 15:18.14 | Fisker- | QQ |
| 15:18.27 | Fisker- | phyber it's on the site |
| 15:18.28 | Stephen_ | not the wowace svn |
| 15:18.29 | Stephen_ | http://www.wow-friends.net/armory/sig.php/24893YMVeg.png |
| 15:18.31 | Fisker- | he has his own svn |
| 15:18.32 | Stephen_ | mt |
| 15:18.33 | Stephen_ | lol |
| 15:18.35 | phyber | ah |
| 15:18.42 | Stephen_ | http://svn.digitalsentience.com/svn/armory |
| 15:18.45 | Stephen_ | ^^ |
| 15:19.27 | Fisker- | thing is i don't wan't hotlinking but within a few select domains are ok |
| 15:19.35 | nevcairiel | Fisker-: as i said, knowing PHP helps alot :P there was some weirdness in the script with db access, and i had to fiddle around for like an hour until it worked |
| 15:19.39 | Fisker- | but at best all sigs i make are bugged |
| 15:19.40 | Fisker- | :( |
| 15:19.54 | Stephen_ | I got the db side sorted fine |
| 15:20.06 | nevcairiel | thats what you think |
| 15:20.09 | Stephen_ | so how do I alter if(@$_SERVER["HTTP_REFERER"] && !preg_match("/CoralWebPrx/i", $_SERVER["HTTP_USER_AGENT"]) && !preg_match("/" . $options["General"]["OKReferer"] . "/i", $_SERVER["HTTP_REFERER"])) die_image("Direct hotlinking isn't allowed. Use provided .nyud.net:8080 links at http://wow.tachyonsix.com/armory"); |
| 15:20.21 | Stephen_ | so that it will only allow images requested from my domain? |
| 15:20.22 | nevcairiel | place // in front of it :P |
| 15:20.25 | nevcairiel | oh |
| 15:20.29 | Fisker- | Antiarc says it because the EU Armory sucks but still it seems a bit weird that regardless of how many signature i make or regardless of what character i make on 4 seperate occasions it has continued to give the parsing error |
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| 15:20.35 | Stephen_ | no, I don't want nubs using my script to put sigs elsewhere |
| 15:20.48 | Stephen_ | just on my forum |
| 15:20.52 | nevcairiel | first of remove the coralwebprx thing |
| 15:21.06 | nevcairiel | and add your domain to OKReferer array |
| 15:21.17 | Chompers | \AddOns\Gladiator\Gladiator.lua line 259: attempt to index upvalue 'data' (a nil value) |
| 15:21.22 | Fisker- | so |
| 15:21.35 | Fisker- | if(@$_SERVER["HTTP_REFERER"] && !preg_match("//i", $_SERVER["HTTP_USER_AGENT"]) && !preg_match("/" . $options["General"]["OKReferer"] . "/i", $_SERVER["HTTP_REFERER"])) die_image("Direct hotlinking isn't allowed. Use provided .nyud.net:8080 links at http://wow.tachyonsix.com/armory"); |
| 15:21.36 | Stephen_ | how nevcairiel? sorry, I'm more of a c# spod than PHP, still learning |
| 15:21.43 | Fisker- | or what? |
| 15:21.51 | Fisker- | or wait |
| 15:21.58 | Fisker- | just remove the whole regexp on the first part? |
| 15:22.13 | nevcairiel | the whole regex |
| 15:22.21 | nevcairiel | remove "&& !preg_match("/CoralWebPrx/i", $_SERVER["HTTP_USER_AGENT"])" |
| 15:22.21 | Antiarc|Work | Morning, what are we talking about? |
| 15:22.31 | Antiarc|Work | Stephen_: Check OKReferer in the .ini file |
| 15:22.36 | Stephen_ | can you edit the regex to allow only your server that's producing the files? |
| 15:22.38 | Stephen_ | ah |
| 15:22.48 | nevcairiel | we are teaching Stephen_ how to remove the coral proxy hotlinking protection |
| 15:22.50 | [Ammo] | Antiarc|Work: hey, I've updated some of the KLHTM stuff |
| 15:22.58 | [Ammo] | Antiarc|Work: in threat-1.0 for KLHTM reading |
| 15:23.05 | [Ammo] | it should probably take the new translation stuff into account |
| 15:23.08 | [Ammo] | but that's pretty trivial :p |
| 15:23.10 | Antiarc|Work | [Ammo]: Awesome |
| 15:23.11 | [Ammo] | and I didn't bother |
| 15:23.12 | Antiarc|Work | I'll check it out |
| 15:23.27 | [Ammo] | self.KLHTMtarget could probably be made a local but shrug |
| 15:23.35 | Antiarc|Work | Well, comment out that whole line if you don't want to force Coral to be used |
| 15:23.41 | art3mis | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:23.46 | Antiarc|Work | Yes |
| 15:23.49 | Stephen_ | Antiarc do I need to remove the regex as well as altering the okreferer? |
| 15:23.50 | art3mis | w00t |
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| 15:23.55 | durcyn | violation also does a handy job of displaying the data |
| 15:24.12 | Antiarc|Work | Stephen_: No, just alter the referer to your domain, which will allow requests from that domain to go through |
| 15:24.14 | art3mis | i dont really like violation, last time i used it it didnt seemt o like updateing on its own |
| 15:24.30 | Killmore | Antiarc|Work: yo ! |
| 15:24.30 | Antiarc|Work | That will force other requests not from your domain to go through Coral, saving you bandwidth |
| 15:24.31 | art3mis | then again i dont really like ktm either |
| 15:24.35 | art3mis | ;) |
| 15:24.36 | Antiarc|Work | Morning Killmore |
| 15:24.43 | Stephen_ | thanks antiarc |
| 15:24.47 | [Ammo] | Antiarc|Work: also read the comment in the threat command handler for KLTHM |
| 15:24.47 | nevcairiel | i just removed the protection |
| 15:24.58 | nevcairiel | wonder if anyone figured out the link from my sig |
| 15:25.01 | durcyn | violation is solid now, if you had problems i'd recommend trying it again. |
| 15:25.01 | [Ammo] | I wanted to call: self:ThreatUpdated, but that updates for the player itself |
| 15:25.06 | Fisker- | Is the schema.sql files still inaccurate? |
| 15:25.06 | art3mis | but having it is better than listening to the raid leader whine for 45 mins about me not using the guild required mods and me tell him to get stuffed my shit is better ;P |
| 15:25.19 | [Ammo] | had hoped I could pass it an optional argument to update for an arbitrary player |
| 15:25.27 | durcyn | but even in a halfway broken state, Violation still makes DamageMeters and SW_Stats look like they were written in crayon. |
| 15:25.33 | durcyn | my god, the memory usage |
| 15:25.48 | art3mis | durcyn: i prolly will, it's not so much that i care about the data but to keep annoying voices off of vent ;P |
| 15:25.59 | durcyn | art3mis: go pick up KMFDM then. |
| 15:26.00 | Antiarc|Work | [Ammo]:You either want SetThreat() to set it for a given player (See THREAT_UPDATE) or you want to fire the ThreatLib_ThreatUpdated event, to signal GUIs to update |
| 15:26.19 | [Ammo] | hmm |
| 15:26.29 | [Ammo] | I called _setThreat |
| 15:26.34 | Antiarc|Work | I'm reading over your changes now |
| 15:26.38 | [Ammo] | k |
| 15:26.38 | Antiarc|Work | That should do it. Lemme look at it |
| 15:26.43 | [Ammo] | they're pretty straightforward |
| 15:26.46 | Antiarc|Work | You would also have to fire the event if you want GUIs to update |
| 15:26.52 | [Ammo] | oh yeah |
| 15:26.54 | [Ammo] | well |
| 15:26.58 | [Ammo] | I forgot about that :p |
| 15:27.03 | Antiarc|Work | Heheh |
| 15:27.04 | [Ammo] | I'll add that now |
| 15:27.10 | art3mis | durcyn: they got a new one out? |
| 15:28.14 | Antiarc|Work | [Ammo]: We shouldn't really need to limit to the master target mob, because KTM only transmits data for the master target if it's set |
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| 15:28.18 | art3mis | ya know nothing is worse than waiting for packages to arrive KNOWING they're on the truck |
| 15:28.24 | Antiarc|Work | So no need to futz with mob names |
| 15:28.34 | Antiarc|Work | Basically, setting _GLOBAL_ emulates KTM's behavior |
| 15:28.46 | [Ammo] | Antiarc|Work: not if a master target is set |
| 15:29.02 | [Ammo] | that's why I add the data to that target if it's set |
| 15:29.12 | [Ammo] | otherwise I add it to the global |
| 15:29.46 | [Ammo] | but I still have to fire the update events, but that requires code duplication from :ThreatUpdated |
| 15:29.56 | [Ammo] | wish I could just call that function with the sender as the first argument |
| 15:31.03 | [Ammo] | any threat not generated on the master target is not calculated by KTM afaik, so _GLOBAL_ is KTMs beheviour without a master target set |
| 15:31.34 | durcyn | art3mis: new which, sir? |
| 15:32.03 | [Ammo] | art3mis: violation is pretty usable atm, apart from possible errors generated by Threat-1.0 :) |
| 15:32.03 | Stephen_ | Antiarc, why is the script trying to request the file from a nyud.net:8080 address rather than direct from my server? O.o |
| 15:32.16 | Antiarc|Work | Well, we could refactor that. KTM's something of a special case though, because it doesn't require a full list rebroadcast when _GLOBAL_ changes. |
| 15:32.16 | art3mis | KMFDM ;P |
| 15:32.16 | Fisker- | http://www.stockroom.com/SiFeet-Pussy-Foot-P2958.aspx <-that's an easy sell |
| 15:32.16 | durcyn | oh, i think he thought i meant a KMFDM album |
| 15:32.28 | durcyn | KMFDM is tekkub's KTM version report faker mod |
| 15:32.30 | Antiarc|Work | Stephen_: That's the Coral Caching, which is designed to save sig generation distributions bandwidth |
| 15:32.51 | art3mis | oh well now im not as excited |
| 15:32.53 | Stephen_ | well I get a missing image |
| 15:32.53 | [Ammo] | Antiarc|Work: basically I don't want to duplicate the code in ThreatUpdated |
| 15:32.56 | [Ammo] | Antiarc|Work: that's all |
| 15:33.04 | art3mis | you sir are a jerk for dashing my hopes of good new music! |
| 15:33.13 | Fisker- | durcyn Kenco's MotherFucking Deadly Mod?` |
| 15:33.17 | [Ammo] | if I can call that function for an arbitrary unitname instead of playername then we're done |
| 15:33.29 | [Ammo] | one function call in the t() handler for klhtm then |
| 15:33.32 | Antiarc|Work | Understandable. I'll refactor it. |
| 15:34.09 | [Ammo] | coolio |
| 15:34.09 | Stephen_ | Antiarc, do you mind looking at the link to tell me what I'm doing wrong? |
| 15:34.09 | [Ammo] | that way klhtm threat to a master target will be added to the global list as well |
| 15:34.14 | [Ammo] | and we basically have threat-1.0 compatible dataset |
| 15:35.07 | CIA-22 | 03antiarc * r37787 10Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0.lua: Threat-1.0: Refactor ThreatUpdated, add ThreatUpdatedForUnit() |
| 15:35.16 | [Ammo] | hehe |
| 15:35.24 | Antiarc|Work | Stephen_: It should be pulling things through nyud.net:8080 if things go right :) |
| 15:35.35 | Stephen_ | i've sent you the link |
| 15:35.41 | sbu | hm - omen/therat seems to be a lot faster than ktm (for threat updates) |
| 15:35.42 | Stephen_ | it's not doing as far as I can see |
| 15:35.44 | Stephen_ | breaks |
| 15:35.45 | sbu | its sometimes 1-2s |
| 15:36.09 | Antiarc|Work | If the coral cached version is borked, then it'll be 12 hours or so before it updates |
| 15:36.13 | Antiarc|Work | Try another sig |
| 15:36.24 | Antiarc|Work | sbu: That's because Threat is responding to events and Omen is event-driven |
| 15:36.39 | Stephen_ | I did, changed a stat around still no worky |
| 15:36.50 | Antiarc|Work | AFK, team meeting, be back in 30 minutes or so. |
| 15:37.57 | Fisker- | programmers working in a team |
| 15:37.57 | Fisker- | i lol'd |
| 15:37.57 | CIA-22 | 03ammo * r37788 10Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0.lua: Threat-1.0: call ThreatUpdatedForUnit, from KLHTM t() handler |
| 15:38.23 | [Ammo] | data from KLHTM should now start to appear in Omen/Violation |
| 15:38.59 | Morgh | Oh, wow. [Ammo] that's hawt! :O |
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| 15:39.09 | deltron | [Ammo]: !!! |
| 15:39.09 | [Ammo] | pretty much untested |
| 15:39.16 | deltron | yay |
| 15:39.26 | Morgh | I'll notify my guildies so they can test it this evening. |
| 15:39.32 | [Ammo] | Antiarc|Work: if you don't agree with my use of the locale table say so, I added the semi-legally comment :p |
| 15:39.35 | Gngsk | anyone know how to anchor groups to eachother with ebb2? |
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| 15:39.52 | [Ammo] | Gngsk: I imagine that's done from the group options |
| 15:40.06 | sbu | [Ammo]: will test when its on files. |
| 15:40.07 | Gngsk | been looking there |
| 15:40.13 | Gngsk | but the only options for anchoring involve the tooltip |
| 15:40.15 | [Ammo] | should be in a minute or 2 |
| 15:40.21 | Bver | hey does anyone know what mod changes your nameplates like in this pic http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v626/Wh4t1t1s/kiting.jpg ?? |
| 15:40.21 | deltron | is violation a replacement damage/healing meter like sw-stats? |
| 15:40.31 | [Ammo] | deltron: it will be when it's finished |
| 15:40.37 | [Ammo] | it's basically in a pretty usable state |
| 15:40.38 | Gngsk | what I want seems to be covered on the first page of the ebb2 thread, but I can't work it out for w/e reason |
| 15:40.42 | sbu | [Ammo]: mh - */20? |
| 15:40.50 | deltron | [Ammo]: :) I'll try it tonight. rock on sir. |
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| 15:42.37 | Morgh | Bver: Aloft |
| 15:42.43 | Bver | ok thanks |
| 15:42.56 | Morgh | :) |
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| 15:45.32 | Gngsk | ok, they seem to be anchored to eachother by default |
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| 15:45.50 | Gngsk | I just had to edit the spacing to 0 from the default 10 to get the old ebb functionality |
| 15:45.54 | CIA-22 | 03ammo * r37789 10Violation/Threat/TargetThreat.lua: Violation: when running disembedded and without threat-1.0 don't complain when it's not there. The threat modules won't work however. |
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| 15:46.58 | sbu | doesnt display anything [Ammo]... |
| 15:47.07 | abyssichate | Hello |
| 15:47.23 | sbu | i can see threat in KTM, but not in omen |
| 15:47.49 | [Ammo] | sbu: from teammates? |
| 15:48.11 | [Ammo] | it won't display KTM data from yourself or other threat-1.0 users |
| 15:48.19 | Fisker- | http://www.developersdevelopersdevelopers.dk/Armory/sig.php/24896EMHVI.png <-lol well atleast it's not the error anymore |
| 15:50.13 | Silviu- | [Ammo] so in Omen/Violation i can see other user that use KTM now ? |
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| 15:50.41 | [Ammo] | Silviu-: that should theoretically work |
| 15:50.45 | [Ammo] | like I said, not test :p |
| 15:50.46 | [Ammo] | not tested |
| 15:50.51 | Silviu- | Will test tonight |
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| 15:50.56 | Silviu- | In ssc |
| 15:50.56 | sbu | [Ammo]: http://img380.imageshack.us/img380/876/ktmomency2.png |
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| 15:51.00 | sbu | he doesnt have omen |
| 15:51.42 | abyssichate | has anyone watched the movie from nihilum against akama? |
| 15:51.43 | [Ammo] | sbu: try setting the master target |
| 15:51.46 | [Ammo] | does it work then? |
| 15:51.54 | Josh_Borke | abyssichate: yea, i did |
| 15:52.25 | abyssichate | Do you know what addon is the one that appears on the screen in the forms of a red circle about the player whever Nightfall procs? |
| 15:52.34 | Josh_Borke | nope |
| 15:52.40 | abyssichate | It's really useless but it's pimp |
| 15:52.45 | sbu | wait :) |
| 15:52.47 | vhaarr | abyssichate: Power Auras. |
| 15:52.57 | abyssichate | Thanks, I guess it is not Ace |
| 15:53.17 | wobin | useful though |
| 15:53.40 | abyssichate | might be |
| 15:53.48 | abyssichate | I don't like disconnected addons though: Sorry, I don't have any time to update my Mod, feel free to continue this project :) |
| 15:54.13 | deltron | abyssichate: link? |
| 15:54.24 | abyssichate | http://wow-en.curse-gaming.com/downloads/details/3897/ |
| 15:54.25 | Josh_Borke | abyssichate: the same thing happens with Ace addons |
| 15:54.30 | Josh_Borke | see DreamBuffs |
| 15:54.32 | [Ammo] | it happens all the time |
| 15:54.37 | [Ammo] | but if the addon is good enough it'll get picked up |
| 15:54.49 | [Ammo] | if it's shit, it'll slowly drown in the pile of dung it belongs in |
| 15:54.52 | abyssichate | Josh_Borke: thanks |
| 15:55.03 | sedatedChipmunk | very poetic, ammo |
| 15:55.16 | [Ammo] | I'm secretly a poet |
| 15:55.40 | wobin | though you don't know it |
| 15:56.05 | [Ammo] | a bad one |
| 15:56.10 | [Ammo] | but therefore I'm secret |
| 15:56.22 | Stephmw | get back in your closet |
| 15:56.29 | Fisker- | anyone got a US char and realm i can use? |
| 15:57.06 | sbu | [Ammo]: nope, doesnt work |
| 15:57.27 | [Ammo] | sbu: ohwell, I hope I still get points for trying! |
| 15:57.37 | sbu | hehe |
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| 15:58.49 | [Ammo] | I'll try and debug it later by running ktm and allowing it to inject data for my threat *shiver* |
| 15:59.07 | Nickenyfiken | http://wow.allakhazam.com/mediabox/eeeew.jpg hehe |
| 15:59.20 | Recluse | is there a cartographer module that lets you connect poi/mapnotes with lines visible on the map/minimap (to set up visiable paths) |
| 16:00.18 | alext | hmmmm would you guys consider the ace2 addon violation a replacement for sw-stats? |
| 16:00.24 | sbu | Nickenyfiken: nice ;o |
| 16:00.26 | alext | never heard of it until now, will be testin it out when i get home |
| 16:00.28 | vhaarr | alext: not yet |
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| 16:00.52 | alext | vhaarr: its gettin there though yes? |
| 16:00.57 | vhaarr | yes |
| 16:00.59 | alext | just needs some more development time? |
| 16:01.00 | alext | cool |
| 16:01.07 | vhaarr | alext: you can try it though, it works |
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| 16:01.21 | cryogen | vhaarr: is cloestgnome_ohgnoes only supposed to work in a raid environment? |
| 16:01.30 | Elkano | Tadaima! |
| 16:01.32 | Antiarc|Work | Back! |
| 16:01.35 | alext | vhaarr: i certainly will! |
| 16:01.57 | Killmore | Antiarc|Work: omg |
| 16:02.25 | vhaarr | cryogen: hm |
| 16:02.34 | Chompers | 1700 5v5 rating ruined by 4 games :/ bah |
| 16:02.37 | Chompers | curse you arena |
| 16:03.10 | Antiarc|Work | Killmore: ? |
| 16:03.18 | Silviu- | Antiarc|Work wb |
| 16:03.25 | vhaarr | cryogen: It's only supposed to work in instances |
| 16:03.40 | cryogen | let me put it another way |
| 16:03.46 | cryogen | is it only supposed to work at max level? :) |
| 16:03.51 | vhaarr | no |
| 16:04.10 | cryogen | it behaves most oddly on my (level 28) paladin, is why i'm asking |
| 16:04.23 | vhaarr | how does it behave? |
| 16:04.34 | cryogen | two different things i've noticed |
| 16:04.56 | cryogen | firstly it gets quite confused if im about to die and then dont, seems not able to reequip my weapon |
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| 16:05.22 | cryogen | secondly when i was with someone getting boosted in an instance, it "oh gnoesed" every time i got aggro, even on full hp |
| 16:05.45 | vhaarr | yeah that's an option |
| 16:05.46 | cryogen | the main one is it failing most times to reequip my weapon |
| 16:06.53 | cryogen | also, is it supposed to reequip my weapon when i recover my corpse, or is that my job? |
| 16:06.59 | vhaarr | it is |
| 16:07.14 | cryogen | thought so, havent got it to do that successfully yet |
| 16:07.35 | cryogen | it goes "oh gnoes" unequips it, i die, it says "everything's ok!" tries to reqeuip, cant because im dead |
| 16:07.38 | cryogen | and then nothing else |
| 16:08.00 | cryogen | i res and start beating on mobs unarmed :D |
| 16:08.36 | Stephmw | good way to train up your unarmed skill |
| 16:08.42 | Stephmw | obviously intentional |
| 16:08.42 | cryogen | true enough |
| 16:09.03 | cryogen | not so good when you run into a double pull though and havent noticed |
| 16:09.07 | Thrae | vhaarr: Yeah, that ClosetGnome module has always been flakey on re-equipping weapons after rez. |
| 16:09.15 | vhaarr | oh |
| 16:09.24 | vhaarr | well it's Mikk's work, I don't really use it myself. |
| 16:09.30 | vhaarr | maybe I should start using it so I can fix it. |
| 16:09.34 | shieldb | Antiarc|Work, any luck nailing down that residual threat deal yet? |
| 16:09.40 | Stephmw | or just get Mikk here to fix it? |
| 16:09.40 | Thrae | It's also bad at un-equipping weapons, you usually need to increase the % of health |
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| 16:09.58 | cryogen | i find it has about a 65% success rate |
| 16:10.03 | cryogen | i put it down to my low levelness though |
| 16:10.17 | cryogen | (it's not exactly worthwhile to save 2s repair costs is it) |
| 16:10.50 | Antiarc|Work | shieldb: I nailed down the fluctuating threat issue, but that was only a display issue. It shouldn't have affected general threat numbers, so I think there's a second issue out there somewhere |
| 16:11.06 | shieldb | yeah it seemed to be just a display issue |
| 16:11.09 | Antiarc|Work | I just have ClosetGnome outfit called "Dying!" that is mapped to Ctrl-) |
| 16:11.11 | cryogen | that wasnt the character i intended using it on, but it seems to be the one that uses it the most :) |
| 16:11.12 | Antiarc|Work | Err, Ctrl-0 |
| 16:11.16 | shieldb | it kept on telling me I was at 26k threat on hydross whenever I was out of combat |
| 16:11.18 | Antiarc|Work | And I mash it during a wipe |
| 16:11.37 | Antiarc|Work | shieldb: Ah, right, that one. Haven't gotten that one yet. |
| 16:11.43 | shieldb | even vanishing out of combat didn't fix the display of it |
| 16:11.48 | Antiarc|Work | Odd. |
| 16:11.53 | shieldb | but when combat starts if I go whack him then it starts from 0 |
| 16:12.03 | Antiarc|Work | Right, that's working as expected |
| 16:12.07 | Antiarc|Work | I think it's an Omen issue |
| 16:12.15 | Antiarc|Work | Something not updating when it should |
| 16:12.18 | shieldb | seems to be more display related, yeah |
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| 16:14.30 | [Ammo] | Antiarc|Work: I noticed the same on Violation |
| 16:14.44 | [Ammo] | Antiarc|Work: so it seems event is not fired |
| 16:14.44 | Antiarc|Work | Okay, so it's probably an event not firing when it needs to |
| 16:14.46 | [Ammo] | or something |
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| 16:19.51 | Stephmw | Interesting bug with spellcloth making |
| 16:19.57 | Stephmw | ... get in quick before they hotfix it |
| 16:20.27 | mjc | anyone on that can reset my SVN password? I haven't used it in months and can't remember what it was |
| 16:20.41 | [Ammo] | there is some email adress you can mail |
| 16:20.43 | [Ammo] | it's on the forums |
| 16:20.47 | cryogen | it was 'bigbreastedblondes' |
| 16:20.48 | mjc | alrighty |
| 16:20.57 | [Ammo] | some sticky about SVN acess |
| 16:21.02 | mjc | cryogen: tittyfuc|< |
| 16:21.09 | cryogen | worthy a try! |
| 16:21.11 | cryogen | =y |
| 16:21.13 | cryogen | -y too |
| 16:21.15 | Stephmw | I sure hope it wasn't sticky after cryogen's comment |
| 16:21.24 | cryogen | heh |
| 16:23.19 | Nickenyfiken | Hmm me wonders why Inteface Options frame is behind all other frames when skinned by Skinner |
| 16:23.42 | nevcairiel | skinner was causing freezes and 132 on my guildmates last week |
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| 16:24.22 | Nickenyfiken | Oh, never had such problems |
| 16:24.29 | rubik | anyone use wowhead to look up loot, etc.? |
| 16:24.44 | Nickenyfiken | But when i think about it the interface options frame has always had a low strata, wonder why no one fix it |
| 16:25.02 | Stephmw | rubik: lots of people do |
| 16:25.03 | Nickenyfiken | rubik: you mean the wowhead client to mine data? |
| 16:25.18 | nevcairiel | wonder why it does touch the strata anyway |
| 16:25.24 | rubik | no, sorry.. jsut the web site.. i'm trying to create very basic filters and they're missing very common criteria |
| 16:25.41 | rubik | like.. there's no way to create a filter that only shows leather gear |
| 16:25.49 | rubik | o_O |
| 16:25.55 | Stephmw | kinky :) |
| 16:25.57 | Nickenyfiken | nevcairiel: thats good question |
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| 16:26.13 | mjc | rubik: there is for me |
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| 16:26.33 | mjc | rubik: http://www.wowhead.com/?items=4.2 |
| 16:26.35 | rubik | mjc: what is it called on the drop-down? maybe i'm missing it? |
| 16:26.46 | Thrae | http://lolcode.com/ for those that have still not seen it. |
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| 16:27.05 | rubik | oh, it's not a filter, it's a category.. duh.. thanks |
| 16:27.43 | Deathra | Yay for hourglass! Works so much better than CDT2, any chance of being able to resize the bars? :> |
| 16:33.24 | CIA-22 | 03antiarc * r37790 10Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0/ (Threat-1.0.lua ThreatClassModuleCore.lua): Threat-1.0: Change to hopefully fix the "residual displayed threat after combat" issue. Drycode, please test. |
| 16:36.36 | mjc | Antiarc|Work: zomg klh replacement? |
| 16:36.52 | Antiarc|Work | mjc: Yes. |
| 16:36.59 | CIA-22 | 03antiarc * r37791 10Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0/ClassModules/Druid.lua: Threat-1.0: Removed a non-existant rank of Feral Faerie Fire. |
| 16:37.17 | Chompers | ha |
| 16:37.19 | mjc | I'm a druid tank in kara |
| 16:37.32 | mjc | raid in 6 hours if you want me to try it |
| 16:38.25 | Killmore | cool! |
| 16:38.42 | Antiarc|Work | mjc: Please feel free. It's still under heavy development, so chances are about 50/50 that it's broken at any one time ;) |
| 16:38.47 | hyperChipmunk | think we still working out compat communication |
| 16:38.51 | Antiarc|Work | But try it out and let me know if you run into any problems. |
| 16:38.57 | Antiarc|Work | hyperChipmunk: Has anyone been able to test that yet? |
| 16:39.00 | hyperChipmunk | so unless you can convince your entire raid... =) |
| 16:39.04 | mjc | Antiarc|Work: happy bear' |
| 16:39.08 | sbu | Antiarc|Work: not working :o |
| 16:39.18 | hyperChipmunk | Antiarc|Work: not successfully =) |
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| 16:40.03 | Arrowmaster | threat-1.0 wont ever work correctly with multiple mobs with the same names right? |
| 16:40.30 | mjc | does KLHT? |
| 16:40.33 | Arrowmaster | no |
| 16:40.41 | mjc | didn't think so |
| 16:40.44 | Arrowmaster | it doesnt even work with multiple mobs |
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| 16:40.58 | ulic | I don't think it would be possible without some unit id's |
| 16:41.53 | ulic | or if they would add raid icon data to chat messages |
| 16:41.58 | Stephmw | Oooo, time for shamans to get their own back on rogues in pvp... http://blue.cardplace.com/newcache/forums.wow-europe.com/286874187.htm |
| 16:42.01 | Arrowmaster | well it might be possible with some really crazy hax involving matching combatlog damage numbers to UNIT_COMBAT events |
| 16:42.18 | Chompers | Arrowmaster: dont mobs have UniqueIDs? |
| 16:42.23 | Killmore | did blizzard already talk about unit id or something like that ? |
| 16:42.24 | Arrowmaster | no |
| 16:43.00 | ulic | Killmore: I recall someone in here saying that they said they were going to do it, then changed their minds. |
| 16:43.42 | Killmore | ok :( |
| 16:44.07 | CIA-22 | 03nevcairiel * r37792 10Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0/ClassModules/Druid.lua: Threat-1.0: set max rank on faerie fire to 5 as well ( shouldnt really bug anything before, but hey ) |
| 16:44.17 | ulic | if they make it too easy on us it won't be fun any more :) |
| 16:46.55 | Azurewrath | Chompers: sure, every Mob must have an unique ID internally.. but you can't access it. |
| 16:47.28 | beerke | Where do you suggest new items to be added to PeriodicTable ? |
| 16:48.52 | hyperChipmunk | Antiarc|Work: what happened to my pet threat? |
| 16:49.07 | Antiarc|Work | hyperChipmunk: Is it not working? |
| 16:49.17 | hyperChipmunk | is gone >8*( |
| 16:49.26 | Antiarc|Work | Hm. I haven't really messed around in there. |
| 16:49.38 | Antiarc|Work | Maybe something with the KLH compatibility? |
| 16:50.15 | hyperChipmunk | did you try to fix the 'Unknown' thing? |
| 16:50.18 | Antiarc|Work | I'll add a potential fix |
| 16:50.21 | Antiarc|Work | And no, not yet |
| 16:50.25 | Antiarc|Work | I need to go event-digging for that |
| 16:50.59 | hyperChipmunk | just thought maybe you did something while messing with it |
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| 16:52.02 | sbu | Antiarc|Work: sync works now? didnt work ~15h ago, you know... :p |
| 16:52.57 | Silviu- | sbu for me works now |
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| 16:53.02 | Silviu- | A little strange |
| 16:53.08 | Silviu- | But i see some ppl in my list |
| 16:53.08 | Silviu- | :P |
| 16:53.12 | Silviu- | In violation |
| 16:53.30 | Silviu- | In Omen is a little strange |
| 16:53.45 | Silviu- | I`ll make u an screen Antiarc |
| 16:54.20 | CIA-22 | 03arith * r37793 10Babble-2.2/Babble-Boss-2.2/Babble-Boss-2.2.lua: |
| 16:54.21 | CIA-22 | Babble-2.2: |
| 16:54.21 | CIA-22 | -Update some zhTW boss names |
| 16:54.54 | CIA-22 | 03hegarol * r37794 10AtlasLoot/ (10 files in 6 dirs): |
| 16:54.54 | CIA-22 | AtlasLoot: |
| 16:54.54 | CIA-22 | - Loot Improvements |
| 16:54.54 | CIA-22 | - Anzu added to "ExtraText.lua" |
| 16:56.42 | Silviu- | Antiarc|Work http://img106.imageshack.us/my.php?image=wowscrnshot053107195339am8.jpg |
| 16:56.50 | sbu | Silviu-: okay |
| 16:57.21 | Tornhoof | you're playing with that font silviu? |
| 16:57.39 | sbu | Silviu-: uhm - ktm sync or do all players have threat/omen? |
| 16:57.45 | mjc | LOL Silviu- way to wipe your aggro |
| 16:57.47 | Silviu- | Ktm sync |
| 16:57.54 | Silviu- | I`m the only one that have it |
| 16:58.17 | mjc | Tornhoof: my thoughts exactly |
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| 16:59.29 | Boubouille | ugly font ! :/ |
| 16:59.37 | Silviu- | I was first and one dot ticking .. when we switched |
| 16:59.40 | Silviu- | and he owned me ^^ |
| 17:00.30 | Killmore | Silviu-: so you make you group wipe, thats your fault !!! |
| 17:02.13 | hyperChipmunk | Antiarc|Work: it works now, after i reloaded (?) |
| 17:02.26 | hyperChipmunk | but my residual agro is still there |
| 17:02.44 | art3mis | Silviu-: thats a wicked font btw |
| 17:02.50 | sbu | Silviu-: wtf... why does it work for you :o |
| 17:03.45 | [Ammo] | sbu: haha |
| 17:03.50 | [Ammo] | so my code does work |
| 17:04.17 | sbu | meh... i dont get it |
| 17:04.23 | sbu | it doesnt event work with 2 omen+threat running |
| 17:04.42 | sbu | could it be some cross-locale issue? (1 client is deDE, other is enUS) |
| 17:05.08 | sbu | mh, and other player got hexchecksum errors :/ |
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| 17:06.01 | Fisker- | vhaarr ! |
| 17:06.14 | vhaarr | busy |
| 17:06.46 | Chompers | does anyone have some good places to farm for Warped Flesh? |
| 17:07.13 | Chompers | got a few hours spare thought i'd stock up on warp burgers |
| 17:07.16 | CIA-22 | 03scorpio0920 * r37795 10Babble-2.2/Babble-Boss-2.2/Babble-Boss-2.2.lua: |
| 17:07.16 | CIA-22 | Babble-2.2: |
| 17:07.17 | CIA-22 | - Update Maiden of Virtue name (zhTW) |
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| 17:08.02 | Funkeh` | hi all |
| 17:08.05 | nevcairiel | hello |
| 17:08.06 | Fisker- | ok vhaarr :( |
| 17:08.20 | Fisker- | [2007/05/31 19:01:46-1202-x1]: NRT-2007-05-26\NRT.lua:938: field 'day' missing in date table <-can't you see i'm QQ'ing? |
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| 17:09.32 | sbu | Gagorian: you broke drdamage |
| 17:09.33 | CIA-22 | 03arith * r37796 10Babble-2.2/Babble-Spell-2.2/Babble-Spell-2.2.lua: |
| 17:09.33 | CIA-22 | Babble-2.2: |
| 17:09.33 | CIA-22 | -zhTW translation update |
| 17:10.28 | sbu | Antiarc: any idea why threat syncing doesnt work for me? |
| 17:10.55 | Silviu- | sbu only worked if they set in ktm master target |
| 17:12.42 | Gagorian | sbu: Gif error |
| 17:13.05 | Ominous | hmm what are good notepads for lua, i use notepad++ but it often fails to show lua notation and cant display koKR charaters |
| 17:13.06 | sbu | Gagorian: DrDamage-1.1.5\DrDamage.lua:344: bad argument #1 to 'ipairs' (table expected, got string) |
| 17:13.27 | sbu | Silviu-: do you all have the same game locale? |
| 17:13.37 | Silviu- | sbu no |
| 17:13.42 | [Ammo] | Ominous: it does for me, notepad++ show's koKR chars |
| 17:13.48 | [Ammo] | it all depends on your installed language files |
| 17:13.49 | Ominous | odd |
| 17:13.51 | Silviu- | I have enGB but some have deDE |
| 17:13.54 | Fisker- | y u do dat mjc? |
| 17:13.59 | Ominous | they show in internet explorer |
| 17:14.02 | Ominous | not notepad |
| 17:14.16 | sbu | Silviu-: mh.... did you only test raid? |
| 17:14.21 | mjc | notepad uses iso8859-1 I think |
| 17:14.22 | sbu | or does it work in group as well? |
| 17:14.32 | [Ammo] | we're talking notepad+ |
| 17:14.33 | Silviu- | Only in raid i tested now |
| 17:14.33 | [Ammo] | ++ |
| 17:14.46 | haste | mjc: windows uses utf-8 internally, why should it use iso8859 in notepad? |
| 17:14.51 | haste | s/8/16/ |
| 17:14.57 | Tornhoof | the default font is iso |
| 17:15.08 | Ominous | [Ammo] btw depending on instance runs i may see if i can change to candybar later |
| 17:15.30 | cryogen | cool, i get a lua error from DrDamage every time i bless myself :) |
| 17:15.32 | mjc | haste: windows uses iso8859-1 for display in almost all instances |
| 17:15.41 | mjc | cryogen: bless you |
| 17:15.55 | chutwig | .NET uses unicode |
| 17:16.01 | chutwig | the older MFC stuff is a mixed bag |
| 17:16.14 | Tornhoof | blubapiA or blubapiW |
| 17:16.21 | cryogen | line 267: Attempt to index upvalue 'previousValues' (a number value) if anyone cares |
| 17:16.23 | Tornhoof | very boring ;) |
| 17:16.45 | Antiarc|Work | hyperChipmunk: Hm, pet name isn't available when I'm checking it on login then |
| 17:16.47 | CIA-22 | 03gagorian * r37797 10DrDamage/DrDamage.lua: |
| 17:16.47 | CIA-22 | DrDamage: |
| 17:16.47 | CIA-22 | - Fixed error with buff/debuff classtables |
| 17:16.47 | mjc | windows jsut needs to die in general |
| 17:16.47 | Antiarc|Work | I'll double check that |
| 17:16.53 | Gagorian | sbu: ^ |
| 17:17.05 | Fisker- | does that fix the PreviousValues problem Gagorian? |
| 17:17.11 | cryogen | that sounds like my problem ^^ |
| 17:17.13 | Gagorian | sec! |
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| 17:18.05 | CIA-22 | 03ominous * r37798 10Babble-2.2/Babble-Spell-2.2/Babble-Spell-2.2.lua: Babble-2.2: Spell add Call of Nexus |
| 17:18.38 | CIA-22 | 03antiarc * r37799 10Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0.lua: Threat-1.0: Added version checking and an event that fires when you're out of date. Untested. |
| 17:18.48 | CIA-22 | 03tsigo * r37800 10Cutup/modules/Spam.lua: Cutup_Spam: Working again. |
| 17:18.49 | Iceroth | call of nexus does what?) shards our epix?) |
| 17:19.17 | mjc | statstain/statsummary one of those was going apeshite for me |
| 17:19.20 | mjc | dumped them :x |
| 17:19.42 | mjc | statstain definitely showed armor as enchant a few times |
| 17:19.58 | mjc | Antiarc|Work: sex |
| 17:20.16 | Antiarc|Work | mjc: My wife wouldn't like that. |
| 17:20.23 | mjc | Antiarc|Work: threesome? |
| 17:20.30 | CIA-22 | 03gagorian * r37801 10DrDamage/DrDamage.lua: |
| 17:20.31 | CIA-22 | DrDamage: |
| 17:20.31 | CIA-22 | - Fixed previousValues error for paladins |
| 17:20.38 | Antiarc|Work | Pretty sure she wouldn't like that either. ;) |
| 17:20.43 | mjc | lol |
| 17:20.43 | Gagorian | Fisker-, cryogen: ^ |
| 17:20.47 | mjc | you never know |
| 17:20.47 | mjc | :D |
| 17:21.02 | sbu | mh, sex-highlighting works? :p |
| 17:21.12 | mjc | yep |
| 17:21.22 | mjc | !sex |
| 17:21.23 | mjc | heh |
| 17:21.25 | mjc | drat |
| 17:21.29 | mjc | purl: sex |
| 17:21.45 | purl | updatedb; locate; talk; date; cd; strip; look; touch; finger; unzip; uptime; gawk; head; apt-get install condom; mount; fsck; gasp; more; yes; yes; yes; more; umount; apt-get remove --purge condom; make clean; sleep, or super extractor, http://sf.net/projects/sex/ |
| 17:21.45 | mjc | drat. |
| 17:22.01 | Chompers | :O |
| 17:22.23 | mjc | haha |
| 17:22.38 | Azurewrath | ~sex |
| 17:22.53 | purl | updatedb; locate; talk; date; cd; strip; look; touch; finger; unzip; uptime; gawk; head; apt-get install condom; mount; fsck; gasp; more; yes; yes; yes; more; umount; apt-get remove --purge condom; make clean; sleep, or super extractor, http://sf.net/projects/sex/ |
| 17:23.01 | Azurewrath | stupid purl |
| 17:23.32 | Elkano | ~asl |
| 17:23.50 | purl | Old enough, yes please, my place. |
| 17:24.16 | Ominous | [Ammo], would it be possible to allow candybar to accept a rgb table instead of a hexi for colors as it just converts to rgb anyway |
| 17:25.46 | Gagorian | Can any paladin explain to me how seal of vengeance works, does it put debuffs on your target or what? |
| 17:25.48 | Fisker- | yay Gagorian |
| 17:25.50 | Fisker- | i lub u |
| 17:25.59 | Fisker- | as much a male can love another male |
| 17:26.01 | Fisker- | in the butt |
| 17:29.00 | Fisker- | in the butt? |
| 17:32.26 | Chompers | *pooper |
| 17:32.38 | kenlyric | Fisker-: you really brought this on yourself. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fbGkxcY7YFU |
| 17:32.43 | Fisker- | i know |
| 17:32.43 | Fisker- | it was the reference |
| 17:34.30 | Hjalte | Anyone who knows about GridAlert in here? I am looking for a way for the text aggro alert to display the name of the mob i have aggro on, but i don't know if it is possible. |
| 17:36.12 | Saroz | why the fuck am I getting cannot find Parser-3.0 instance now |
| 17:36.43 | Saroz | *bangs head on table* |
| 17:37.23 | CIA-22 | 03antiarc * r37802 10Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0.lua: Threat-1.0: Updated a method name I failed to update before. |
| 17:37.24 | Zicon | purl: I love you |
| 17:37.41 | purl | You love you? |
| 17:38.14 | Saroz | god damnit sometimes I hate bleeding edge code |
| 17:38.31 | kenlyric | purl: I love me |
| 17:38.48 | purl | You love me? |
| 17:38.48 | Saroz | and people dont test their shit when committing, ffs |
| 17:38.55 | kenlyric | dumbass bot |
| 17:38.56 | ckknight | hey all, back |
| 17:38.59 | ckknight | morning everyone |
| 17:39.04 | Zicon | saroz: Anything but drycoding is for wusses. |
| 17:39.09 | kenlyric | You pushed you, referring to me |
| 17:39.31 | Saroz | I just convinced half my guild to use violation and now they are all getting errors and deleting it, brr |
| 17:39.41 | vhaarr | Saroz: shouldn't be doing that yet :P |
| 17:39.50 | snurre | it's a bit early to stress convertion yet |
| 17:40.02 | ckknight | Mikk: DogTag-1.0 came first. |
| 17:40.14 | Saroz | swstats sucks, but no alternatives atm |
| 17:40.22 | snurre | ive just made everyone i know aware of it, quite a few have already swapped and are pretty happy once i tell them how short the concept has existed |
| 17:41.07 | Saroz | I logged in and my UI just froze, half way into loading all frames, removed violation, then it works, go figure |
| 17:41.08 | kenlyric | I feel about swstats the exact same way I feel about auctioneer. It works fine until the better alternative gets done :) |
| 17:41.35 | Saroz | not good when raid is going :| |
| 17:41.42 | snurre | oh, and GMs etc are gonna love it too :p |
| 17:41.51 | sbu | morning ckk |
| 17:42.06 | snurre | as "KLHTM t XXX" spam is *really* messing up alot of chat logs |
| 17:42.39 | kenlyric | snurre, it doesn't use the addon channel? |
| 17:42.49 | hyperChipmunk | WHY WOULD IT!?! |
| 17:42.56 | Fisker- | of course it does |
| 17:44.22 | kenlyric | only because I seem to remember that being an update when the addon channel was created :) |
| 17:44.22 | Saroz | vhaarr, why is violation whining about no Parser-3.0 now? |
| 17:44.22 | kenlyric | wait, ktm or swstats? |
| 17:44.22 | kenlyric | now I'm confused |
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| 17:44.23 | snurre | which addon is sending the LOOT_OPENED msg's? |
| 17:44.23 | Saroz | ora2 |
| 17:44.23 | snurre | what i thought |
| 17:44.23 | Saroz | and CTRA |
| 17:44.41 | snurre | in terms of spam in chat logs, the worst addons are KTM > CastComm > ora/ctra > swstats |
| 17:44.55 | Saroz | you mean addon channels? |
| 17:45.07 | snurre | it's treated as regular chat in the logs |
| 17:45.15 | Saroz | wha? |
| 17:45.16 | Saroz | not here |
| 17:45.49 | snurre | so, say, a GM has to do a one-hour chat search for a 40man raid where everyone's using ktm etc... search caps at 50k lines, which is filled up in notime by the addons... "yay" |
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| 17:46.17 | kenlyric | like it's our fault they're too dumb to learn how to cde. |
| 17:46.24 | kenlyric | different logs, noobs |
| 17:46.58 | snurre | getting addon creators to change is easier than getting wow devs to do it :p |
| 17:47.22 | kenlyric | well it's not like you can make the traffic go away, so that's always going to be a problem. |
| 17:47.44 | Saroz | anyone had problems logging in to wow and your UI just freezes? |
| 17:47.57 | kenlyric | didn't you say disabling violation fixes that? |
| 17:48.14 | Saroz | I'm asking |
| 17:48.31 | Saroz | violation did it for me, but people not using violation is getting it aswell |
| 17:48.31 | fixtze | nice bug in WOW |
| 17:48.31 | nevcairiel | some people have that in my guild, when logging in during combat |
| 17:48.43 | fixtze | There is a bug in WOW that lets you fly without mount, you can swim around in air |
| 17:48.48 | Saroz | not even combat, just... logging in while in raids |
| 17:48.51 | fixtze | 4 of my guildies got Doomwalker to 85% solo doing it, wtf |
| 17:48.53 | kenlyric | only error i'm getting is from aloft asking for a new library that I guess I need to get. |
| 17:48.54 | sdouble | [12:40:05] <kenlyric> I feel about swstats the exact same way I feel about auctioneer. It works fine until the better alternative gets done <- speaking of which, is anyone working on an auctioneer alternative? |
| 17:49.09 | sbu | fixtze: theres a video |
| 17:49.15 | sbu | 5-man kill |
| 17:49.21 | kenlyric | kci2 is in the branches right now. |
| 17:49.35 | fixtze | aye |
| 17:49.38 | fixtze | it's a pretty wicked bug |
| 17:50.01 | sdouble | but kci isn't doing the same stuff auctioneer is is it? |
| 17:50.08 | sdouble | kci2 rather |
| 17:50.29 | hyperChipmunk | Antiarc|Work: Threat-1.0\Threat-1.0\ThreatClassModuleCore.lua:559: attempt to index local 'self' (a number value) |
| 17:51.26 | Antiarc|Work | Thanks. Suspect I know what it is. |
| 17:51.39 | Cryect | Saroz: Well there is also recount but its not yet ready really for general use. And someone who really uses the features of SWStats isn't going to be very satisifed with Violation since they are designed with different viewpoints in mind |
| 17:52.12 | Saroz | Cryect, it's more the bugs/problems than anything else |
| 17:52.27 | snurre | where violation is a simple dmg/heal tracker, swstats can be more of a tool to analyze and break down stuff |
| 17:52.27 | Cryect | You are talking about early in development addons :-p |
| 17:52.33 | Saroz | true true |
| 17:52.40 | Cryect | I wouldn't be pushing them on to entire guild usage |
| 17:52.43 | Saroz | but the least you can do it /rl and then commit |
| 17:52.43 | Saroz | no? |
| 17:53.06 | Saroz | I log in, first thing I see is "Cannt find lib instance of Parser-3.0" |
| 17:53.18 | Cryect | heh |
| 17:53.23 | Saroz | anyway, not whining, just saying |
| 17:53.29 | fixtze | I use reocunt and swstats |
| 17:53.31 | Cryect | Did ckknight break parser-3.0 again? |
| 17:53.33 | Saroz | prob. |
| 17:53.36 | ckknight | no. |
| 17:53.41 | Saroz | recount is teh memory sucker :p |
| 17:53.47 | Saroz | but very nice |
| 17:53.48 | fixtze | the only thing i like with SWSTATs over recount is a) Recount shows non raid/party dmg and b) /SWL is the best thing ever |
| 17:53.55 | Cryect | Have you tried it recently Saroz? |
| 17:53.56 | ckknight | that error has absolutely nothing to do with Parser-3.0 itself being broken |
| 17:54.02 | ckknight | it's about the lib not being available. |
| 17:54.03 | Tornhoof | swstats has awful memory usage |
| 17:54.03 | Saroz | Cryect, used it all last night |
| 17:54.05 | Cryect | Latest memory usage is less than SWStats |
| 17:54.12 | Cryect | Heh k |
| 17:54.26 | Cryect | Memory usage though is going to be somewhat high though whenever you record time based data :-p |
| 17:54.27 | Saroz | once it collects a fair amount of data, it's starting to grow :p |
| 17:54.31 | Kebinusan | swl is completely terrible |
| 17:54.32 | Saroz | ofc |
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| 17:54.56 | Kebinusan | expiration gives me most of the information I need without keeping an ingame searchable combat log which is overkill imo |
| 17:54.59 | Cryect | I need a lot of free time to sit down and code the auto trimming of "useless" data |
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| 17:55.20 | nevcairiel | the searchable combat log is great for raid leaders |
| 17:55.24 | nevcairiel | "why did the tank die again?" |
| 17:55.27 | sbu | yes... |
| 17:55.39 | Tornhoof | each hour of gaming in raid gives some 10mb data, which is apparently stored uncompressed in memory |
| 17:55.40 | Kebinusan | expiration does the same thing |
| 17:55.52 | Hjalte | Expiration is great for that, nevcairiel |
| 17:55.56 | Tornhoof | instead of compressing to like 1mb |
| 17:56.02 | nevcairiel | hm dont know it |
| 17:56.10 | sbu | escpecially if the tank is like "nono, regular damage, blame the healers"! |
| 17:56.25 | Tornhoof | "my heal went through" |
| 17:56.42 | sbu | "but some 12k crushing isnt regular? its your fault then!?" - "...." :p |
| 17:56.53 | Kebinusan | expiration is on the svn, it stores the last n lines before a tanks death |
| 17:56.54 | CIA-22 | 03antiarc * r37803 10Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0.lua: |
| 17:56.54 | CIA-22 | Threat-1.0: |
| 17:56.54 | CIA-22 | - Fixed a problem with version checking + older clients in party. |
| 17:56.54 | CIA-22 | - Rewrote GetGroupThreat() as GetGroupThreatForTarget(target) |
| 17:56.54 | CIA-22 | - Rewrote GetMaxThreat() as GetMaxThreatOnTarget(target) |
| 17:56.57 | alext | Saroz: reading scroll, i have a similar issue but its related to one addon and/or a conflict with that addon |
| 17:57.03 | Cryect | I don't know but I find most the time I died its because I didn't get heals for 12+ seconds :-p |
| 17:57.06 | alext | in terms of logging in with a UI freeze |
| 17:57.07 | Kebinusan | including their health, and combat time |
| 17:57.15 | alext | I cant login to the game using BananaBar2 anymore |
| 17:57.22 | Cryect | OT Healers seem ot have tendencies to get distracted though |
| 17:57.25 | alext | wow freezes and locks when the loading bar is 1/3 filled |
| 17:57.29 | CIA-22 | 03caldar * r37804 10ArkInventory/ (5 files): |
| 17:57.29 | CIA-22 | ArkInventory: |
| 17:57.29 | CIA-22 | - 1.38 |
| 17:57.29 | CIA-22 | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:57.30 | CIA-22 | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:57.31 | alext | disabling bananabar2 lets me get in |
| 17:57.32 | CIA-22 | This should be the 1.38 update unless I messed it up. Submitting for arkayenro (hope he doesn't mind) while he straightens out his SVN access. |
| 17:58.38 | Saroz | alext, I dont use that mod |
| 17:58.50 | alext | ah |
| 17:58.51 | Saroz | dunno wtf it is, but it's annoying as hell |
| 17:59.12 | Cryect | yeah a lot of our guild has some issue with loggin in while in a raid |
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| 17:59.13 | alext | our issues could be related though somehow |
| 17:59.20 | alext | I dont think bananabar2 is the issue |
| 17:59.28 | alext | i think its a conflict with another addon |
| 17:59.33 | Cryect | Heh have to kick them from the raid so they can login without freezing |
| 17:59.35 | alext | just havent narrowed it down |
| 17:59.52 | Tornhoof | yah cryect, here too |
| 17:59.53 | Tornhoof | dunno why |
| 18:00.03 | Kebinusan | same |
| 18:00.08 | Saroz | yea exactly Cryect |
| 18:00.12 | Saroz | it's stupid |
| 18:00.25 | Saroz | think it's the secure shit |
| 18:00.29 | Cryect | whatever addon is causing it I hope its get fixed since its annoying :p Luckily I don't have it |
| 18:00.34 | Cryect | thats what I think as well Saroz |
| 18:00.44 | nevcairiel | but which addon? |
| 18:00.45 | Fisker- | btw Antiarc|Work you back? |
| 18:00.49 | Fisker- | btw nevcairiel |
| 18:00.50 | Cryect | was hard getting a mage to understand why his bars weren't working when he logged in while in combat :-p |
| 18:00.52 | Fisker- | i need your hotness |
| 18:00.54 | nevcairiel | i dont have it with aguf or pitbullt, or srf |
| 18:00.58 | Antiarc|Work | Fisker-: Yeah |
| 18:01.00 | Saroz | nevcairiel, anything using secure raid headers |
| 18:01.04 | nevcairiel | alot of people do Fisker- |
| 18:01.08 | Arrowmaster | Cryect: let me guess trinity? |
| 18:01.14 | Fisker- | my armory thingy keeps saying "Db crashed get a new sig" |
| 18:01.19 | Cryect | Arrowmaster: No trinity works great |
| 18:01.26 | Fisker- | indeed nevcairiel |
| 18:01.27 | Cryect | Arrowmaster: I think I'm the only one in guild who uses trinity |
| 18:01.29 | nevcairiel | Fisker-: i know, that what i had to fix |
| 18:01.31 | Arrowmaster | what bars was he using then? |
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| 18:01.37 | Cryect | Bongos I believe |
| 18:01.38 | Peoii | oh wonderful, my server just crashed. |
| 18:01.43 | Saroz | Im using bongos aswell |
| 18:02.04 | Peoii | I use bongos as well, with no issue regarding logging back in during a raid. |
| 18:03.42 | Saroz | yea it's very random it seems |
| 18:03.42 | sdouble | I use bartender3 with no problems |
| 18:03.42 | Saroz | and annoying as HELL |
| 18:03.42 | Cryect | nah Peoii I as talking a seperate issue :-p |
| 18:03.42 | Saroz | had a guy with the problem, using bartender3 |
| 18:03.42 | Peoii | oh durf :P |
| 18:03.42 | Saroz | doubt it's that |
| 18:03.42 | Cryect | I was talking his bars not working when he was logging into combat |
| 18:03.42 | Chompers | saroz! hai |
| 18:03.42 | Fisker- | is it possible to make the gridsnapping and the green outlining to follow the size of the bars after padding? |
| 18:03.42 | Keias | The logging while in a raid error |
| 18:03.42 | Peoii | hehe |
| 18:03.42 | Keias | Is due to custom unit frames |
| 18:03.43 | Antiarc|Work | . |
| 18:03.43 | Keias | It was in the channel topic all week up until like yesterday |
| 18:03.43 | Tuller | omgpittbull? :P |
| 18:03.43 | Saroz | channel topic? |
| 18:03.43 | Keias | Yes, Channel Topic :P |
| 18:03.43 | Keias | /topic #WoWAce |
| 18:05.13 | Saroz | nah, didnt see anything |
| 18:05.13 | Saroz | in any rate, it's not fixed |
| 18:05.13 | sdouble | "Yes, custom unit frames are freezing your WoW client." |
| 18:05.13 | Keias | Yeah, you have to get kicked from raid and reinivited |
| 18:05.13 | Saroz | My money is on the secure raid frames |
| 18:05.13 | nevcairiel | well yeah, but i bet its one mod that screws with them |
| 18:05.13 | Saroz | which mod? |
| 18:05.13 | Saroz | aguf? |
| 18:05.13 | nevcairiel | i use aguf no issues |
| 18:05.14 | Saroz | -.- |
| 18:05.14 | nevcairiel | ive used pitbull till yesterday, no issues |
| 18:05.14 | sdouble | i use pitbull and no issue |
| 18:05.14 | Saroz | never used pitbull |
| 18:05.14 | alext | I have swapped pitbull and ag_uf for a week or two |
| 18:05.14 | alext | no issues |
| 18:05.14 | Arrowmaster | get versionchecker and make a list of everybody in your raids it happens to, then start seeing who uses what mods |
| 18:05.14 | alext | then again i dont use either of those UF's raid frames |
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| 18:05.26 | Keias | There was another mod in the works that checked addons/versions of group members I think? |
| 18:05.32 | Keias | GnomeSpy or something. |
| 18:05.34 | Arrowmaster | spygnome |
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| 18:05.38 | Keias | Yes, that. |
| 18:05.48 | Keias | Might come in handy for problems like this :P |
| 18:06.39 | nevcairiel | someone claimed today that disabling SCT solved it for him |
| 18:06.43 | nevcairiel | but no idea. |
| 18:06.45 | Arrowmaster | i still need to get everybody in my raid to get updated AceComm |
| 18:07.01 | Arrowmaster | get whispers from some people when using versionchecker |
| 18:07.18 | Azurewrath | i like Patch Days since it forces most people to update.. |
| 18:07.26 | Arrowmaster | and so many people claim bigwigs is broken.... |
| 18:07.38 | Arrowmaster | i hate having to deal with people that cant keep stuff updated |
| 18:07.49 | Azurewrath | right.. |
| 18:08.12 | Arrowmaster | although one guy i know has updated his stuff and its still messed up so i need to walk him through completely deleting bigwigs and the savedvars |
| 18:08.14 | CIA-22 | 03bom * r37805 10Omen/ (Libs/ Omen.toc localization_deDE.lua): |
| 18:08.14 | CIA-22 | Omen: |
| 18:08.15 | CIA-22 | - added localization deDE |
| 18:08.15 | CIA-22 | - added missing lib Babble-Boss-2.2 |
| 18:08.15 | hyperChipmunk | i finally found a way to get my g/f to do it regularly |
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| 18:08.32 | hyperChipmunk | i told her that addons are like gnomes, and they get dirty |
| 18:08.38 | hyperChipmunk | you have to clean them every day |
| 18:08.41 | Fisker- | vhaarr you forgot to update your site :P |
| 18:08.51 | sbu | hyperChipmunk: uhm - what?? :P |
| 18:08.52 | hyperChipmunk | now she updates obsessively |
| 18:09.06 | Keias | lol |
| 18:09.18 | hyperChipmunk | and it also solved the problem where she updated like 2 addons and none others |
| 18:09.19 | Arrowmaster | make a bat file that runs WAU then call WOW and make the wow shortcut point to that |
| 18:09.34 | Peoii | "Cenarius will be restarted to fix a missing NPC issue." <-- as we're watching a "Server Shutdown in 2 minutes" counter. |
| 18:09.35 | hyperChipmunk | because she can't just leave one clean gnome |
| 18:09.39 | Azurewrath | i should just introduce minus dkp for addons older than a week or something.. <3 |
| 18:09.51 | Cryect | what if you like dirty gnomes? |
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| 18:10.13 | hyperChipmunk | she likes clean ones |
| 18:10.15 | Cryect | leper gnomes are so much better than clean gnomes! |
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| 18:11.16 | Snarrrr | eh. eavesdrop isn't showing any damage i make or receive even with all the events checked. |
| 18:11.38 | hyperChipmunk | if i think it's been awhile since she remembered, i discribe in excruciating detail how the gnomes are becoming diseased and their shared filth is causing a plague |
| 18:11.39 | CIA-22 | 03ammo * r37806 10Violation/Violation.lua: Violation: Only broadcast data for a mod if you actually get data |
| 18:11.49 | hyperChipmunk | possibly causing an END TO ALL GNOMES |
| 18:12.09 | sbu | uhm but that would be a good thing? |
| 18:12.20 | hyperChipmunk | no, see, gnomes are cute |
| 18:12.31 | hyperChipmunk | therefore she likes them |
| 18:12.41 | Peoii | gnomes > * |
| 18:12.42 | Saroz | [Ammo], question, what happens if I reset my meters locally, and someone sends me his damage from before I reset my meter |
| 18:12.45 | Peoii | that is all. |
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| 18:13.35 | hyperChipmunk | Snarrrr: workin' just peachy here |
| 18:14.10 | Snarrrr | well my chat/combatlog settings have acted kinda weird anyway :p |
| 18:14.25 | hyperChipmunk | though i just looked at the code and it could use a major facelift |
| 18:14.26 | Saroz | fuck sake this hang bug is pissing me off |
| 18:14.46 | Saroz | http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=6208.0 |
| 18:15.04 | hyperChipmunk | lots of table.foreaches and xml gui elements |
| 18:15.31 | Snarrrr | and now wow crashed. sigh. |
| 18:15.38 | hyperChipmunk | denied |
| 18:16.34 | Saroz | tbh, the login hanging might be an ace lib |
| 18:16.37 | Saroz | and just aguf catching it because it loads first |
| 18:16.38 | Fisker- | so nevcairiel what say you? |
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| 18:16.38 | Saroz | http://img443.imageshack.us/img443/9841/wowscrnshot053007231853ex0.jpg << scary shit |
| 18:16.55 | Chompers | bloody hell |
| 18:17.34 | Peoii | wowza |
| 18:17.36 | Fisker- | http://www.developersdevelopersdevelopers.dk/amidoinitrite.jpg |
| 18:17.58 | [dRaCo] | saroz, u know the reason, don't u? |
| 18:18.03 | Saroz | ? |
| 18:18.03 | Peoii | And to think, some guildies and I are wondering why are UI memory slowly creeps up about 20megs during the course of a raid.. |
| 18:18.06 | Fisker- | so bloody red it can barely be seen |
| 18:18.07 | Fisker- | :D |
| 18:18.52 | [dRaCo] | the mem use of all ace libs is counted for the first ace addon in the list |
| 18:19.06 | Peoii | but 113megs of it? |
| 18:19.13 | Peoii | that's still insane by anyones book |
| 18:19.15 | Tornhoof | nah thats wrong |
| 18:19.16 | durcyn | 113 megs is broken, it should be around 1.5MB |
| 18:19.26 | Saroz | yea, it's just an example I found on forums |
| 18:19.27 | Tornhoof | well try un-embedding them |
| 18:19.49 | Saroz | it's not my screenshot |
| 18:19.51 | [dRaCo] | sure, that'll solve it. but if u use embeddeds, that's how it'll look. |
| 18:19.52 | Peoii | yea, unembedded, my "Ace2" instance typically hovers around 3megs |
| 18:20.01 | Saroz | ofc |
| 18:20.07 | Saroz | but 113MB is still insane |
| 18:20.09 | Saroz | embed or not |
| 18:20.16 | Tornhoof | mine at 1.5mb |
| 18:20.17 | Peoii | then creeps up, to about 30 megs outta nowhere. |
| 18:20.32 | Tornhoof | probably some bug saroz |
| 18:20.37 | durcyn | tekprobe it, something's leaking. |
| 18:20.39 | Saroz | oh rly |
| 18:20.53 | Tornhoof | nah that's not leaking anymore |
| 18:20.58 | durcyn | er, teksupport rather |
| 18:21.04 | durcyn | teksomething. |
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| 18:23.37 | Killmore | If I want to un-embed (whatever, dont know the real name) which pack that include all libs I need to download ? |
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| 18:23.48 | Saroz | MAN |
| 18:23.50 | Saroz | fuck that |
| 18:23.52 | Saroz | embeds are fine |
| 18:23.56 | jwwpua | when running unimbedded, which "Lib:" addons do I need checked in the addon list? |
| 18:24.16 | ckknight | all of em |
| 18:24.18 | Antiarc|Work | http://wiki.wowace.com/wiki/Threat-1.0 |
| 18:24.23 | ckknight | !!!StandaloneLibraries |
| 18:24.38 | Killmore | ckknight: all libs are include in? |
| 18:24.44 | ckknight | yes |
| 18:24.47 | Killmore | cool |
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| 18:25.15 | jwwpua | ckknight: is there an easy way to get rid of embedded ace files in addons? |
| 18:25.22 | jwwpua | besides going through each folder manually |
| 18:25.33 | ckknight | redownloading with no-externals |
| 18:25.36 | Killmore | should have an option in WAU for that :\ |
| 18:26.26 | Silviu- | Antiarc|Work, after a wipe i still see threat in my Omen for Tidewalker |
| 18:26.41 | Silviu- | Any command so i can reset it ? ;) |
| 18:26.41 | Antiarc|Work | Silviu-: That should be fixed soon. Change targets and it'll disappear. |
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| 18:28.22 | jwwpua | ckknight: i've been running it with only a few checked w/o errors. is that normal? |
| 18:28.24 | Silviu- | Ok |
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| 18:29.09 | jwwpua | ckknight: i've been running it with only a few checked w/o errors. is that normal? |
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| 18:29.35 | ckknight | if there's no errors, how isn't it normal? |
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| 18:29.55 | NeoTron | ended up trying hydross last night. seems like our main problem (10 out of 12 times maybe) is the pull |
| 18:30.10 | Silviu- | NeoTron pull with a druid |
| 18:30.11 | jwwpua | ckknight: i dont understand the point of having them all checked if I'm not getting errors |
| 18:30.12 | Silviu- | stealth |
| 18:30.18 | Silviu- | and switch quick to bear |
| 18:30.19 | NeoTron | almost always crosses the border and turns poisoned |
| 18:30.24 | jwwpua | just wondering if i've been lucky to not have errors so far |
| 18:30.24 | NeoTron | hmm |
| 18:30.32 | NeoTron | and watch druid get one shot |
| 18:30.42 | Silviu- | And get your tank ( warrior ) be ready to charge :) |
| 18:30.45 | ckknight | jwwpua: ... whatever, LoD addons don't make it any more painful |
| 18:30.51 | Silviu- | NeoTron we always kill him like so |
| 18:30.55 | NeoTron | our druid happens to be the NR tank. bummer |
| 18:31.00 | Tupsi | Antiarc : your here? have an omen error for you :-) |
| 18:31.02 | NeoTron | so just a druid without resist gear at all? |
| 18:31.20 | cotangent | use an invis pot |
| 18:31.21 | NeoTron | or a mixed gear OT? |
| 18:31.26 | Silviu- | Ours is an "normal" tank with both nr and frost |
| 18:31.28 | Silviu- | Mixed |
| 18:31.32 | NeoTron | does invis pot work? |
| 18:31.38 | cotangent | yes |
| 18:31.39 | cotangent | makes the pull trivial |
| 18:31.40 | Silviu- | Did not try |
| 18:31.46 | NeoTron | ah |
| 18:31.51 | cotangent | the only thing that can go wrong is healers getting to close |
| 18:32.11 | Silviu- | 2 warris as mt`s |
| 18:32.11 | Fisker- | btw renchap |
| 18:32.18 | Silviu- | One forst one nr |
| 18:32.19 | Fisker- | how do i rip off files server? :< |
| 18:32.25 | Silviu- | sec we pull tidewalker |
| 18:32.25 | Silviu- | ;p |
| 18:32.27 | cotangent | get an earth shield and a pom on the FrR tank, he pots as soon as combat from the assembly line breaks walks in behind hydross, pop bloodrage and shield slam |
| 18:33.05 | cotangent | he doesn't hit hard on full resist without the marks stacks so healers have time to get into position |
| 18:33.36 | NeoTron | problem is not the tank dying |
| 18:33.48 | NeoTron | well rather he dies when he passes over the line and NR-damages the FrR tank |
| 18:34.00 | NeoTron | but if invis pot works, that'd help (we used swiftness pot/intecept) |
| 18:34.21 | cotangent | yeah I was doing that too, but when it wouldn't work it's a wipe |
| 18:34.30 | NeoTron | right |
| 18:34.38 | cotangent | the only issue with invis is it's a 10 min cool down so if you wipe right away anyway you have to wait |
| 18:34.44 | NeoTron | as I said maybe at least 8 of the 12 wipes was due to that |
| 18:34.47 | cotangent | if you get a good attempt in the pot will be ready |
| 18:34.48 | NeoTron | hm |
| 18:35.33 | cotangent | we killed him with four invis pots yesterday and one was wasted because a healer aggroed, another wasted when multiple went offline |
| 18:35.39 | Kebinusan | invis and lesser invis dont share a cooldown IIRC |
| 18:36.04 | cotangent | oh cool, didn't look at lesser, is that just a shorter amount of time invis? |
| 18:36.12 | Saroz | hydross pull is sooo easy |
| 18:36.17 | Saroz | no special tricks |
| 18:36.18 | Saroz | just charge |
| 18:36.30 | cotangent | I tried that got in combat before it went off |
| 18:36.46 | cotangent | could have been bad assembly line control I guess thoughj |
| 18:36.58 | NeoTron | from what we noticed, he aggros before charge range |
| 18:37.30 | Saroz | so? |
| 18:37.35 | NeoTron | can't charge in combat |
| 18:37.37 | NeoTron | doh |
| 18:37.59 | Saroz | meh, dunno, our tank does it alone without any problems at all |
| 18:38.38 | cotangent | I only had intercept fail once but why chance it when a cheap pot works every time and puts you in better position in the correct stance? |
| 18:38.40 | Fisker- | btw does Threat-1.0 take from target's target if the target is friendly? |
| 18:39.05 | NeoTron | how close can you get to hydross while invisible? right on top of him? |
| 18:39.19 | Fisker- | should be able too |
| 18:39.31 | cotangent | yup |
| 18:39.36 | Fisker- | i don't think there's any invisibillity detection in the game |
| 18:39.37 | Fisker- | npc-wise |
| 18:39.45 | cotangent | I walk past him and then stand infront of the console |
| 18:39.46 | CIA-22 | 03antiarc * r37807 10Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0.lua: Threat-1.0: Added a bunch of type checks to places that we could call HexCheckSum from; fixed backwards hash keys for mob name translation. |
| 18:40.13 | cotangent | I bet I could walk through him but that seemed like tempting fate |
| 18:40.24 | mjc | Antiarc|Work: sex |
| 18:40.32 | Antiarc|Work | I don't believe that you can detect invisible players like you can stealthed players |
| 18:40.39 | Antiarc|Work | Invisible players are, for all intents and purposes, not there. |
| 18:40.47 | mjc | detect invisibility buff :x |
| 18:41.13 | NeoTron | cool then |
| 18:41.22 | cotangent | but yeah if you're having issues use the pots |
| 18:41.53 | Fisker- | btw Antiarc|Work had any idea why the sig generator kept saying that the DB crashed? |
| 18:42.03 | Stephmw | mindshare question... anyone heard of the BCS, their IT qualifications or their reputation? |
| 18:42.07 | Stephmw | (trying to gauge their reach outside the UK) |
| 18:42.13 | mjc | Stephmw: no |
| 18:42.14 | Antiarc|Work | Fisker-: Because the DB crashed a while back? ;) |
| 18:42.29 | NeoTron | thanks for the advise. I'm sure we can learn to pull without but why bother risking unnecessary wipes |
| 18:42.30 | Fisker- | yeah |
| 18:42.34 | Fisker- | but not mine |
| 18:42.43 | Antiarc|Work | Oh. Hm. |
| 18:42.55 | Antiarc|Work | Oh, that's the message when it can't find a requested sig in the DB. |
| 18:43.48 | Fisker- | there are sigs in the cache and in the sigs table |
| 18:44.00 | Antiarc|Work | No idea then. |
| 18:44.04 | Fisker- | but the non-cache db doesn't have any entries |
| 18:44.09 | Fisker- | in the table |
| 18:44.17 | Silviu- | Antiarc http://ace.pastey.net/47033 |
| 18:45.40 | CIA-22 | 03antiarc * r37808 10Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0.lua: Threat-1.0: Do they make pills for Teh Stupid? I might need some. (string is not the same as "string", and is, in fact, nil) |
| 18:45.44 | Tupsi | is there a workaround to get rid of these tons of chatframe errors by now? |
| 18:45.54 | mjc | Antiarc|Work: hahah |
| 18:45.59 | Tupsi | hhi |
| 18:46.12 | mjc | Tupsi: figure out what mod is breaking chatframe and get rid of it? |
| 18:47.14 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r37809 10PitBull/PitBull.lua: PitBull - change SML "Tooltip" reference to "Blizzard Tooltip" |
| 18:50.17 | NeoTron | so how do you get to morogrim w/o killing hydross? there's evil fish in the water. only via walking/levitate ? |
| 18:50.19 | *** join/#wowace Kinkx (i=bleh@221.84-48-78.nextgentel.com) |
| 18:51.02 | NeoTron | or just kill the fish? |
| 18:51.22 | Elkano | Antiarc, don't depend on strng being nil ;) |
| 18:51.52 | Elkano | btw, string should be a table and not nil, shouldn't it? |
| 18:52.20 | Awaa | Hm.. My shadowfiends threat arnt remved from Omen, just sits there at 225.00 |
| 18:53.00 | durcyn | NeoTron: levitate the priests across, waterwalk and BOP the warlocks |
| 18:53.25 | Punkie` | Antiarc|Work: If they had such pills you could have fed them to Kenco and then you would have never needed to make threat-1.0 |
| 18:53.25 | Antiarc|Work | Heh. |
| 18:53.25 | durcyn | NeoTron: then summon the rest |
| 18:53.26 | Antiarc|Work | Elkano: I was testing types. |
| 18:53.26 | NeoTron | so we need to get our shaman attuned >:-) |
| 18:53.26 | Antiarc|Work | if type(var) == "string" |
| 18:53.26 | durcyn | or if you clear the first platform, you don't need BOP |
| 18:53.26 | Antiarc|Work | Except I had if type(var) == string |
| 18:53.27 | Antiarc|Work | Which was nil. |
| 18:53.43 | durcyn | or find some other fun way to avoid fall damage breaking waterwalk :/ |
| 18:54.06 | Awaa | Antiarc|Work, should report the omen bug somewhere? |
| 18:54.38 | NeoTron | well still need a shaman |
| 18:54.41 | NeoTron | bop isn't an issue :) |
| 18:54.44 | Silviu- | Antiarc|Work Omen needs some "touch" too bars are all over eachother ^^ |
| 18:54.44 | Antiarc|Work | Awaa: Here's fine, or just pastey it if it's multiple lines. |
| 18:54.54 | Antiarc|Work | Silviu-: Heh, yeah :) |
| 18:54.57 | kenlyric | what'sa shaman do? |
| 18:54.59 | Awaa | afew line up mate |
| 18:55.04 | Awaa | Hm.. My shadowfiends threat arnt remved from Omen, just sits there at 225.00 <--- |
| 18:55.22 | NeoTron | kenlyric: makes warlocks walk on water? :P |
| 18:55.24 | Silviu- | Antiarc|Work one sec i`ll show u what i mean :) |
| 18:55.37 | kenlyric | oooh, i never knew that was castable. |
| 18:55.38 | kenlyric | nice. |
| 18:55.58 | durcyn | NeoTron: your next problem, of course, is getting aoe to not suck it up on the murlocs |
| 18:56.07 | Antiarc|Work | Awaa: I think I might have fixed that with a recent check-in - give SVN a bit to synch and test it after an update |
| 18:56.36 | NeoTron | we're definitely a bit borderline with SSC attuned ppl |
| 18:56.58 | Awaa | kk, i do that, using O:37758/T:37803 |
| 18:57.29 | CIA-22 | 03jncl * r37810 10Skinner/ (6 files in 2 dirs): |
| 18:57.29 | CIA-22 | Skinner: Skinned Violation |
| 18:57.29 | CIA-22 | - Added Lock function to the Middle Frames |
| 18:57.29 | CIA-22 | - Added Tooltip Border Colour and option to use it or the default border |
| 18:57.35 | Silviu- | Antiarc|Work http://img169.imageshack.us/my.php?image=wowscrnshot053107215453ub4.jpg |
| 18:57.57 | Silviu- | Antiarc|Work and now they don`t reset anymore i tryed change targets but nothing i just get more bars there ^^ |
| 18:58.16 | Antiarc|Work | Silviu-: Heh, I definitely borked something :D |
| 18:58.30 | Antiarc|Work | I'll have to test it tonight. Drycoding right now. |
| 18:59.03 | Silviu- | Oky ;) |
| 19:00.24 | Fisker- | :o Antiarc|Work |
| 19:00.42 | Fisker- | by manually injecting the signatures into the armory-noncache table it doesn't say DB crashed |
| 19:00.48 | Fisker- | but it shows an error message instead :I |
| 19:00.48 | Fisker- | http://www.developersdevelopersdevelopers.dk/Armory/sig.php/8Iqgmi.png |
| 19:00.49 | Antiarc|Work | Hm. |
| 19:00.56 | Fisker- | oops |
| 19:00.57 | Fisker- | mt died |
| 19:01.47 | Fisker- | they're on to me : |
| 19:01.49 | Fisker- | :( |
| 19:01.54 | Fisker- | "Hey were you afk?" |
| 19:02.00 | Fisker- | "no no my ui lagged" |
| 19:03.49 | Keias | haha |
| 19:04.45 | *** join/#wowace ravagernl (n=chatzill@85.148.20.110) |
| 19:05.05 | Kebinusan | Put an eye of kilrog right past the flags and have your MT intervene it. Works great for us and lets him start the fight in defensive too and doesn't require any hugging the wall or any use of potions. |
| 19:05.10 | Kebinusan | interesting way to do the hydross pull |
| 19:05.34 | nevcairiel | hm |
| 19:05.37 | nevcairiel | interesting indee |
| 19:05.38 | nevcairiel | d |
| 19:05.41 | nevcairiel | we use invis potions |
| 19:06.15 | ravagernl | anyone using sanitybags? I want to know how I can hide the quality border colour when an item is of normal colour |
| 19:06.16 | Fisker- | what's with the pull? |
| 19:06.30 | Antiarc|Work | ravagernl: There is no way to do it right now |
| 19:06.34 | ravagernl | :( |
| 19:06.38 | ravagernl | ok |
| 19:06.43 | Kebinusan | theres a thread on the rnd forums about the pull |
| 19:06.55 | Kebinusan | some people having problems with him transitioning to nature off the bat |
| 19:07.01 | Fisker- | btw Antiarc|Work best idea ever: let threat pull target's target threat if unit = friendly |
| 19:07.02 | ravagernl | antiarc|work, is there an official topic? |
| 19:08.31 | Tupsi | mjc: sadly the error doesnt tell me which one it is |
| 19:09.17 | CIA-22 | 03antiarc * r37811 10Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0/ClassModules/Warrior.lua: Threat-1.0: Fix taunt to not use depricated API methods (I hope). |
| 19:09.33 | Antiarc|Work | Fisker-: Heh, glad you like it |
| 19:09.36 | Antiarc|Work | ravagernl: Yeah, somewhere |
| 19:10.31 | ravagernl | antiarc|work: I was wondering if I could download savedvariables somewhere to imitate the default behavior of baggins |
| 19:10.41 | Fisker- | glad i like what? :o |
| 19:10.43 | ravagernl | using sanitybags right now because of its search function :P |
| 19:11.14 | Fisker- | ah |
| 19:11.16 | Fisker- | it's already in |
| 19:11.18 | Fisker- | haha |
| 19:11.24 | Fisker- | seems a bit buggy though |
| 19:11.29 | Antiarc|Work | ravagernl: I doubt it. It's still early beta |
| 19:11.33 | Fisker- | didn't have it the last time |
| 19:14.26 | nekoh | files.wowace.com not updating again 8[ |
| 19:14.53 | Funkeh` | does AURA_GONE_SELF fire when you die for debuffs on you |
| 19:14.56 | Antiarc|Work | It is buggy. It's still under development :) |
| 19:15.37 | Daemona | Funkeh` it should, as SCL shows debuff fading on death. |
| 19:15.50 | *** join/#wowace clad|sleep_ (n=cladhair@cpe-74-71-116-245.twcny.res.rr.com) |
| 19:16.04 | Funkeh` | hmm |
| 19:16.04 | CIA-22 | 03funkydude * r37812 10BigWigs/SC/Vashj.lua: BigWigs: SC/Vashj: fix range scanner not disappearing |
| 19:17.53 | CIA-22 | 03funkydude * r37813 10BigWigs/SC/Vashj.lua: BigWigs: SC/Vashj: oops |
| 19:18.45 | nekoh | Antiarc: local _G.select(5, GetTalentInfo(3, 9)) is not that informative, "rank =" is missing :P (on warrior module) |
| 19:19.06 | nevcairiel | lol |
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| 19:22.00 | *** join/#wowace Kalman| (n=delay@dhcp-groundworks15.public.dc.umich.edu) |
| 19:23.02 | *** join/#wowace vithos (i=vithos@unaffiliated/vithos) |
| 19:23.14 | CIA-22 | 03antiarc * r37814 10Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0.lua: Threat-1.0: Added UsingForeignThreatSource(partyMemberName) to determine whether a unit is transmitting data from ThreatLib or not. |
| 19:24.28 | Antiarc|Work | nekoh: Doh! Thanks! |
| 19:24.42 | Fisker- | anything wrong with the files sever right now? |
| 19:25.02 | CIA-22 | 03antiarc * r37815 10Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0/ClassModules/Warrior.lua: Threat-1.0: WTB [Gnomish Demoronificator], PST |
| 19:25.10 | Fisker- | seems like the latest revision is like 37802 |
| 19:26.28 | ravagernl | so antiarc|work: any things i should particularly look for when using you addon :) |
| 19:26.31 | Antiarc|Work | ravagernl: Which one? |
| 19:26.41 | ravagernl | sanitybags :P |
| 19:26.49 | Kalman| | Antiarc|Work: Soon's I con someone else into installing ThreatLib/Omen, I'll test VE threat for you. |
| 19:27.03 | Antiarc|Work | Kalman|: Fantastic, thanks. |
| 19:27.17 | Antiarc|Work | Kalman|: You shouldn't really even need someone else running the mods |
| 19:27.39 | Antiarc|Work | Just have 'em do some damage to a mob and then vast VE on it till you pull aggro |
| 19:27.53 | Killmore | \Interface\AddOns 214 directory with all libs :| |
| 19:28.30 | Funkeh` | Kaelten: seems the files server is down or something |
| 19:28.38 | kergoth | Antiarc|Work, noticed that after a fight, my pet seems to show a small amount of threat with no target chosen.. after targeting something again and untargeting without gettinga ny threat on that mob, that doesn't happen. is that intended? |
| 19:28.51 | kergoth | <3 omen btw, its awesome |
| 19:28.57 | ravagernl | I have 290 addons |
| 19:29.31 | ravagernl | !! |
| 19:29.31 | Antiarc|Work | kergoth: No, it's not intended. Hope to have that fixed soon. |
| 19:29.32 | Antiarc|Work | Also, glad you like it. |
| 19:29.32 | kergoth | no biggie, just wanted to make sure you knew about it |
| 19:29.38 | kergoth | ravagernl, damn. standalones? |
| 19:29.40 | Josh_Borke | kergoth: my tooltip for loottracker is buggy, which is why i haven't released it |
| 19:30.16 | kergoth | figured it was something like that, no rush, lt gets the job done even now |
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| 19:31.40 | Killmore | Threat is not in standalone |
| 19:33.21 | Josh_Borke | kergoth: yea, it has problems sizing correctly |
| 19:33.23 | Josh_Borke | kind of a pain |
| 19:34.14 | kergoth | it's ClickTip on your svn? might take a look today |
| 19:35.15 | Josh_Borke | kergoth: yea |
| 19:35.44 | Kalman| | Antiarc|Work: Yeah, true. So, soon as I can con someone else into helping me test stuff. :p |
| 19:36.32 | Antiarc|Work | Man, if threat was in Standalone, then everyone with standalone would be broadcasting threat data :D |
| 19:36.32 | hyperChipmunk | evl: hourglass really could use some grouping on trap cooldowns |
| 19:36.53 | hyperChipmunk | everytime i lay a trap, i get like seventy thousand bars |
| 19:37.29 | kergoth | hehe |
| 19:37.43 | kergoth | hourglass is nice otherwise, dead simple |
| 19:37.54 | hyperChipmunk | yea, i hesitate to suggest it |
| 19:38.02 | hyperChipmunk | i've been mulling over it the last few days |
| 19:38.11 | hyperChipmunk | because it seems it thrives on lack of special cases |
| 19:38.14 | vithos | is Baggins not showing all the PT3 categories in the config menus anymore or do I have a local problem? |
| 19:38.27 | hyperChipmunk | but it's driving me craaaaaazy |
| 19:38.48 | Fisker- | i am driving you crazy |
| 19:38.49 | Fisker- | >:3 |
| 19:40.10 | ravagernl | kergoth: yes |
| 19:40.26 | kergoth | sheesh. i thought i was bad at 255 |
| 19:40.28 | kergoth | :) |
| 19:41.08 | ravagernl | kergoth: have a lot of tekkub's little mods |
| 19:41.23 | ravagernl | plus those unembeded libs sum it up |
| 19:41.41 | evl | hyperChipmunk: Make a patch, I don't have a hunter :( |
| 19:41.47 | Tekkub | I have a lot of tek's little mods and a bunch of libs too |
| 19:41.51 | Tekkub | and I'm at only 184 |
| 19:42.08 | Josh_Borke | Tekkub: why? tekkub writes such awful code |
| 19:42.08 | hyperChipmunk | evl: you sux |
| 19:42.12 | ravagernl | lol, they're your own |
| 19:42.15 | evl | no, hunters do ;) |
| 19:42.19 | evl | that's why I don't have a patch :D |
| 19:42.24 | Tekkub | gay hunters do |
| 19:42.26 | ravagernl | hey, you take that back! |
| 19:44.26 | CIA-22 | 03ominous * r37816 10ClassTimer/ (4 files in 3 dirs): ClassTimer: now has a "sticky" option! |
| 19:44.51 | ravagernl | I like tekimbapalas most tekkub |
| 19:45.00 | Ominous | ClassTimer can now hold bars to show even when you change target |
| 19:47.24 | *** mode/#wowace [+o cladhaire] by ChanServ |
| 19:47.40 | Fisker- | gay hunters where? |
| 19:47.41 | Saroz | give SS of classtimer |
| 19:47.45 | CIA-22 | 03antiarc * r37817 10Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0/ (10 files in 2 dirs): |
| 19:47.45 | CIA-22 | Threat-1.0: |
| 19:47.46 | CIA-22 | - Added caching mechanism to UsingForeignThreatSource(). It's pretty light as-is, but it could get called with every update. Profiling may be in order. |
| 19:47.46 | CIA-22 | - Moved talent detection to an overridden method ScanTalents() in each of the class modules. This method is invoked when the character's talent points change, so that we can pick up talent changes when they happen. |
| 19:48.03 | [dRaCo] | is there an addon to bind keys to spells without having them as a button? |
| 19:48.07 | CIA-22 | 03gagorian * r37818 10DrDamage/ItemSets.lua: |
| 19:48.08 | CIA-22 | DrDamage: |
| 19:48.08 | CIA-22 | - fixed deDE itemsets error |
| 19:48.11 | kergoth | [dRaCo], spellbinder |
| 19:48.25 | [dRaCo] | great, thx |
| 19:48.55 | Fisker- | anyone know whats wrong with the files server? |
| 19:49.16 | durcyn | Fisker-: i'm gonna guess 'nothing' |
| 19:49.42 | Ominous | Saroz: what? |
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| 19:50.01 | Fisker- | mine stopped around revision 37802 |
| 19:50.02 | Ominous | oh, www.wowace.com/wiki/ClassTimer |
| 19:50.12 | renchap | Fisker-: pong |
| 19:50.18 | Fisker- | ping |
| 19:50.18 | AKX | Fisker-: Pong! |
| 19:50.20 | Fisker- | pong |
| 19:50.21 | Stephmw | I have 37810... but it's really behind the times |
| 19:50.31 | Fisker- | how do you ripoff files server? :< |
| 19:50.48 | renchap | Fisker-: the files or the svn ? |
| 19:51.22 | Fisker- | dunno guess both :P |
| 19:51.33 | renchap | dont do this ;) |
| 19:51.55 | Kaelten | why did you kill the files server? |
| 19:52.01 | Fisker- | i'm a bastard |
| 19:52.05 | Kaelten | I know ! |
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| 19:52.16 | renchap | Kaelten: can you test to sync ? ;) |
| 19:53.28 | CIA-22 | 03kemayo * r37819 10AuldLangSyne/AuldLangSyne.lua: |
| 19:53.28 | CIA-22 | AuldLangSyne: |
| 19:53.28 | CIA-22 | -Add a db-check oninitialize to get rid of some =false keys in the table of friends to remove, which would contribute to some very slow bloating |
| 19:53.28 | CIA-22 | -Fix the friendcache while adding friends, to avoid spamming "X is already on your friends list". |
| 19:53.53 | Kemayo | BankZ: I think that'll fix the problem you were having. |
| 19:54.05 | Kaelten | renchap works with no issues on my end |
| 19:54.28 | renchap | fine |
| 19:54.46 | snurre | i wonder who would win in a faceoff... Google or God... |
| 19:54.57 | Kaelten | according to the church of google, |
| 19:54.58 | Kaelten | ? |
| 19:55.27 | Kaelten | http://www.thechurchofgoogle.org/ |
| 19:56.08 | Fisker- | kinda like scientology |
| 19:56.25 | hyperChipmunk | real question is who has more believers |
| 19:56.32 | sbu | Kaelten: mh - zip script not working? |
| 19:56.33 | Snarrrr | there's no way to set some window to show party chat without the raid chat? -_- |
| 20:00.46 | sbu | uhm - check party and uncheck raid? |
| 20:00.49 | sbu | in channel options? |
| 20:02.17 | Fisker- | why do people like google that much anyways? :I |
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| 20:05.02 | durcyn | Fisker-: because it sucks less than all the competition? |
| 20:07.24 | Snarrrr | the problem is i can only check/uncheck party |
| 20:07.33 | Snarrrr | and the raid color options are under the party menu |
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| 20:08.26 | Snarrrr | with prat i saw them separately and it just stopped working at some point and now when i have it disabled they're merged :s |
| 20:08.34 | Fisker- | well google sucks too :( |
| 20:10.03 | NightHawkTheSane | are the blizzard/wow websites down for anyone else? |
| 20:10.14 | *** join/#wowace thalie (n=no@S0106000c41b73b37.vs.shawcable.net) |
| 20:10.26 | sbu | mhhh, epgp has some evil memory leaks |
| 20:10.53 | sbu | after 10 minutes its at 10-20mb, force gc -> down to 500kb |
| 20:11.17 | hyperChipmunk | evl: i added if string.match(spellName, "Trap") then spellName = "Traps" end in the scanspells function after the line if spellName ~= previousSpellName then |
| 20:11.19 | krka | technically, that's not a memoryt leak |
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| 20:11.26 | hyperChipmunk | and it does the trick |
| 20:11.30 | krka | a memory leak would imply that you never got the memory back |
| 20:11.36 | sbu | krka: mh.. |
| 20:11.44 | sbu | but wow mem leak? :p |
| 20:11.54 | sbu | its impossible to create 'real' leaks in wow |
| 20:11.54 | thalie | wow IS a memory leak |
| 20:12.02 | krka | sbu: not really impossible |
| 20:12.45 | krka | i'd call it a memory leak if the addon created a new tables a lot and kept references to them all |
| 20:13.21 | krka | though i guess that's still technically free:able |
| 20:13.25 | Antiarc|Work | I'd agree with krka |
| 20:13.42 | NeoTron | so the default reference counting in lua - I assume the reason "gc" still frees stuff is due to cyclic structures? |
| 20:13.43 | krka | a better example might be CreateFrame - frames are never freed |
| 20:13.58 | krka | error - no reference counting in lua |
| 20:13.59 | NeoTron | because otherwise memory should remain relatively stable unless reference countign is bugged |
| 20:14.03 | NeoTron | krka: incorrect |
| 20:14.05 | krka | it's an iterative mark and sweep |
| 20:15.07 | Nimbal | Is "Skyboat" present? Under another alias perhaps? |
| 20:15.24 | krka | I'm skyboat! and so is my wife! |
| 20:16.31 | Nimbal | Multiple personality and married to yourself? ;-) |
| 20:17.03 | Nimbal | No, seriously. You are the Skyboat that tried to fix the "Drain Soul" issue for Buffalo2? |
| 20:17.46 | krka | no :( |
| 20:17.49 | krka | or no :) |
| 20:17.53 | krka | dont know if that's good or bad |
| 20:18.15 | ulic | don't say "tried", then he'd know he didn't do so good any might not fess up to it :) |
| 20:18.25 | Nimbal | Neither nor. So I guess it's good. :-) |
| 20:18.54 | NeoTron | ah I swear I read that 5.1 lua added reference counting but I guess all it did was to add incremental mark and sweep |
| 20:19.16 | Nimbal | Well, according to the SVN changelog, he actually did good, but the localization broke his neck, so he reverted his changes. |
| 20:19.16 | NeoTron | there is (was) a RC patch for lua 5.0 |
| 20:19.53 | ulic | ah |
| 20:21.49 | break19 | what all disenchant predictors are there besides fizzwidget's and enchantrix ? |
| 20:22.38 | hypetech | Omen has Threat-1.0 embedded right, I don't need to get it seperatly? |
| 20:22.56 | thalie | yep |
| 20:22.59 | Chompers | if you use embedded libs, yeah |
| 20:23.08 | CIA-22 | 03phyber * r37820 10FuBar_RestFu/RestFu.lua: |
| 20:23.08 | CIA-22 | FuBar_RestFu: |
| 20:23.08 | CIA-22 | - IsCtrlKeyDown() -> IsControlKeyDown() |
| 20:23.33 | Arrowmaster | i dont quite understand how curse of shadows can be 84.42 threat... |
| 20:23.37 | hypetech | hmm....how do I know if I'm using embedded libs? |
| 20:24.11 | Gagorian | you have \libs\ folders in each addon |
| 20:24.36 | Gagorian | Arrowmaster: Why not? :p |
| 20:24.51 | hypetech | I just use the wowace updater to grab everything. Does that add embedded libs by default? |
| 20:24.52 | Arrowmaster | because its not a whole number |
| 20:25.13 | ckknight | hypetech: depends |
| 20:25.30 | hypetech | 12«11ckknight12» on? |
| 20:25.31 | Gagorian | Arrowmaster: Well, inital threat is a whole number, modifiers bring it down to something like that |
| 20:25.34 | deltron | ooh new item |
| 20:25.35 | Snarrrr | if i have 150 ace addons should i use embedded or disembedded libraries? |
| 20:25.37 | deltron | http://www.wowhead.com/?item=32078 |
| 20:25.41 | deltron | didn't see that one before |
| 20:26.32 | Killmore | Snarrrr: Im using like 100 ace addons and I decide to disembedded, same memory usage, save 20mb of space in my pc |
| 20:26.38 | mjc | deltronub |
| 20:26.48 | deltron | mjc: sup foo |
| 20:26.58 | mjc | Killmore: if you are worried about 20MB you shouldn't be playing an 8GB game |
| 20:27.12 | thalie | listen to mjc |
| 20:27.15 | Keias | Snarrrr, I use even less and noticed a pretty nice different in load times :) |
| 20:27.16 | Killmore | exactly :P |
| 20:27.22 | Keias | Difference* even |
| 20:27.26 | NightHawkTheSane | Snarrrr: neither is going to be better or worse. The only difference in-game is how long it takes to initially log in and precisely who gets attributed for cpu/mem usage |
| 20:27.32 | mjc | load time isn't related to size |
| 20:27.40 | Keias | Not size related |
| 20:27.46 | hypetech | 12«11mjc12» that's what SHE said |
| 20:27.47 | cotangent | its' more then 8 gig, I couldn't install BC on a 10gig partition with nothing but wow on it |
| 20:27.49 | Keias | more like only loading a single instance of a library instead of each imbeded |
| 20:27.51 | deltron | mjc: enchants and stuff are starting to get costly for me :( |
| 20:27.58 | ckknight | hypetech: |
| 20:28.02 | Elkano | Snarrrr, disembedding basicaly saves disc space and loading time but doesn't bring a gain ingame (besides being less likely to break for running incompatible versions of the same lib wrt upgrading them) |
| 20:28.08 | hypetech | 12«11ckknight12» 0.o |
| 20:28.21 | mjc | deltron: check out my armory page lol :x |
| 20:28.29 | deltron | mjc: look at mine :) |
| 20:28.44 | mjc | restroar |
| 20:28.58 | ckknight | hypetech: firstly, don't use blue. secondly, it depends on whether you set it to be embedded or not |
| 20:29.07 | deltron | mjc: lmao there's another durid named trailrix, but he's alliance |
| 20:29.09 | sbu | loading time speedup is enough reason to do so isnt it? :p |
| 20:29.17 | Snarrrr | all who answered (:D): thanks. i'm wondering that because of the loading times and then i didn't know if it means my addons are more or less likely to break if i disembed them. |
| 20:29.42 | deltron | mjc: how many times have you made a rogue cry by stealing his loots? |
| 20:29.44 | mjc | deltron: same dude who named trail |
| 20:29.48 | mjc | deltron: lol once already |
| 20:30.14 | deltron | mjc: ahhh lol |
| 20:30.20 | Keias | Snarrrr, I think it's more like they're easier to fix when simple things are broken |
| 20:30.35 | Keias | Because then you only have to update a single library, instead of every instance of it. |
| 20:30.58 | *** join/#wowace ag` (n=ag`@0x535f749b.bynxx18.adsl-dhcp.tele.dk) |
| 20:31.05 | Snarrrr | there was a post in some thread (not relating to the subject) that not all addons support it |
| 20:31.29 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r37821 10PitBull/Aura/Aura.lua: PitBull_Aura - major optimizations (much thanks to Jerry, but I improved a bit on his work) |
| 20:31.57 | Keias | I can't think of a single ace addon I've ran that's had any issues |
| 20:32.12 | Snarrrr | :) |
| 20:32.15 | Keias | Even with using embedded libraries, i'm pretty sure it just pulls all actions from the first loaded |
| 20:32.21 | Keias | Not entirely sure on that one though |
| 20:32.27 | mjc | Keias: no, read the code |
| 20:32.35 | Keias | I'm not too keen on LUA :P |
| 20:32.51 | mjc | not any more difficult than any other language really |
| 20:32.55 | mjc | syntactic sugar |
| 20:33.14 | Fisker- | oh god hypetech |
| 20:33.19 | mjc | eh? |
| 20:33.25 | Fisker- | i wanna kill myself right now |
| 20:33.28 | Fisker- | the colors : |
| 20:33.29 | Fisker- | :( |
| 20:33.45 | durcyn | the goggles, they do NOTHING! |
| 20:33.50 | hyperChipmunk | oh god |
| 20:33.53 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r37822 10PitBull/Aura/Aura.lua: PitBull_Aura - remove frame.auraFrame.num_shown_debuffs |
| 20:33.54 | hyperChipmunk | those colors |
| 20:34.01 | hyperChipmunk | they make me want to kill Fisker, too |
| 20:34.06 | deltron | Fisker-: lol dude you're famous-ish now |
| 20:34.18 | Fisker- | "ish" |
| 20:34.18 | durcyn | (have we gone on about it enough yet?) |
| 20:34.22 | deltron | :D |
| 20:34.57 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r37823 10PitBull/Aura/Aura.lua: PitBull_Aura - another small optimization |
| 20:34.59 | Fisker- | why am i famous btw? :o |
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| 20:36.11 | deltron | data mining |
| 20:38.03 | Snarrrr | heh my addon folder takes up 198 Mt. |
| 20:38.22 | ckknight | Mt's not a real unit |
| 20:38.39 | durcyn | mountains. one hundred and ninety-eight mountains. |
| 20:38.41 | Snarrrr | whoops |
| 20:38.42 | Snarrrr | :p |
| 20:38.42 | durcyn | that's huge. |
| 20:38.47 | Snarrrr | :D |
| 20:38.56 | hypetech | If anybody that knows the ace framework gets bored and needs a mod to write, mages could use something dirt simple like SheepWatch but still works after patch :p |
| 20:38.57 | Snarrrr | Mb ofc |
| 20:39.08 | durcyn | megabits? |
| 20:39.12 | Snarrrr | yeah |
| 20:39.18 | durcyn | no, no, i think you mean MiB. |
| 20:39.23 | Snarrrr | -_- |
| 20:39.34 | Snarrrr | i don't know what those are in english :p |
| 20:39.38 | durcyn | though that whole mebi thing still makes me cross my eyes |
| 20:39.41 | Snarrrr | those=the correct ones |
| 20:39.51 | Snarrrr | windows said Mt |
| 20:39.56 | durcyn | oi! |
| 20:39.59 | Snarrrr | didn't remember it's in finnish |
| 20:40.06 | Fisker- | yeah well i just make a wiki :P |
| 20:40.13 | Fisker- | thinking you meant like teh official forums mr. deltron |
| 20:40.46 | ckknight | ah, that's still not a real unit as far as I'm concerned, Snarrrr |
| 20:40.49 | ckknight | MiB ftw |
| 20:40.55 | Snarrrr | :P |
| 20:41.20 | Snarrrr | 198 million bytes kk. |
| 20:42.10 | ckknight | Mebibytes :-P |
| 20:42.19 | Snarrrr | hehe |
| 20:42.21 | Snarrrr | i just realized |
| 20:42.26 | Snarrrr | i'm nab |
| 20:42.30 | ckknight | ? |
| 20:42.38 | ckknight | nab? |
| 20:42.46 | Snarrrr | noob |
| 20:42.48 | ag` | ckknight: did you have problems with secure raid headers and the game locking up? |
| 20:42.50 | phyber | keep your maybebytes to yourself. Megabytes 4 lyfe. |
| 20:42.51 | Snarrrr | nawb |
| 20:42.58 | ag` | in 2.1 |
| 20:43.09 | ckknight | ag`: not that I know of, it's possible, though |
| 20:43.15 | durcyn | hrm. does purl have a googlefight module? |
| 20:43.19 | Chompers | you even put the y in life, awesome |
| 20:43.29 | durcyn | ~literal googlefight |
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| 20:44.00 | Funkeh` | Antiarc: is threat suppsoed to not clear when you leave combat? |
| 20:44.28 | hyperChipmunk | only if your threatmeters SUCK |
| 20:44.33 | Gagorian | Antiarc: self.latestSeenRevision = MINOR_REVISION -> MINOR_VERSION ? |
| 20:46.04 | CIA-22 | 03gagorian * r37824 10Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0.lua: Threat-1.0: - MINOR_REVISION -> MINOR_VERSION |
| 20:46.34 | Funkeh` | ? |
| 20:46.40 | mjc | http://worsethanfailure.com/Articles/Playground-Fun.aspx |
| 20:47.40 | Antiarc|Work | Gagorian: Thanks |
| 20:47.48 | Antiarc|Work | Funkeh`: It should, it isn't, it's a bug :) |
| 20:47.52 | Elkano | mjc, it's in Belgium... it's normal there to have fun with kids... |
| 20:48.02 | Funkeh` | Antiarc|Work: zomg |
| 20:48.07 | Snarrrr | speaking of threat, ktm was adding threat from aoe'ing murlocs to morogrim's threat table, are they really linked? |
| 20:48.26 | fixtze | global threat added i would think |
| 20:48.30 | fixtze | which is wrong i guess |
| 20:48.41 | fixtze | or correct |
| 20:48.55 | *** join/#wowace F0x0r (i=starfox@85.127.162.45) |
| 20:49.44 | deltron | wtf germany declares hacking tools illegal |
| 20:50.10 | Antiarc|Work | Quick, delete notepad |
| 20:50.28 | sbu | deltron: oh? |
| 20:50.38 | sbu | source? |
| 20:50.40 | deltron | http://it.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=07/05/31/1629259&from=rss |
| 20:50.51 | deltron | http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20070528-germany-adopts-anti-hacker-law-critics-say-it-breeds-insecurity.html |
| 20:50.54 | *** join/#wowace KarlThePagan (n=andross@lanip-170-65.go180.net) |
| 20:51.15 | sbu | wtf |
| 20:51.40 | deltron | yep |
| 20:53.35 | Elkano | I wonder if that would allow a lowsuit against troijans installed by the BND ;) |
| 20:54.57 | Hjalte | For some reason I can't interact with any of my tooltips from fubar... Anyone knows what could cause this? No errors or anything. |
| 20:54.58 | Arrowmaster | Snarrrr: was mastertarget set? |
| 20:54.58 | sbu | well no, thats the point :o and they want to certify some security service providers... so creating some sort of security monopoly |
| 20:55.32 | sbu | Elkano: see CCC article |
| 20:55.32 | sbu | Elkano: http://www.ccc.de/updates/2007/paragraph-202c |
| 20:57.21 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r37825 10PitBull/Aura/Aura.lua: |
| 20:57.21 | CIA-22 | PitBull_Aura - bugfix |
| 20:57.21 | CIA-22 | - right-clicking on player buffs now cancels said buff. |
| 20:57.29 | Elkano | anyone got a nationless island with internet to spare? |
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| 20:58.41 | Josh_Borke | ckknight: question about Cartographer: you run UpdateTooltip every second (no big deal) but you call GetCurrentPlayerPosition during each call. Why? shouldn't it only call if the tablet frame is open? |
| 20:59.06 | ckknight | it has a tablet frame? |
| 20:59.15 | ckknight | why wasn't I informed of this? |
| 20:59.19 | mjc | Josh_Borke: isn't that guildmap? |
| 20:59.21 | ckknight | :-P |
| 20:59.24 | Kebinusan | Elkano: http://www.sealandgov.org/ |
| 20:59.26 | mjc | er, guild positions |
| 20:59.32 | ckknight | Josh_Borke: sure you don't mean LocationFu? |
| 20:59.41 | durcyn | Kebinusan: i thought sealand went poof |
| 21:00.04 | Punkie` | Most awesomest PvP ever: http://www.booncontrol.com/upload/katiechops/summertime.divx |
| 21:00.07 | deltron | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=106578259&sid=1 <-- lolwut? |
| 21:00.10 | Josh_Borke | no, i'm pretty sure i mean the self:ScheduleRepeatingEvent(self.UpdateTooltip, 1, self) in Cartographer.lua |
| 21:00.30 | Punkie` | we are so shameless |
| 21:01.08 | Josh_Borke | looks to be in the ConfigureUnitPOIs function |
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| 21:01.56 | Herio | hmm |
| 21:02.10 | Josh_Borke | just trying to figure out why Cartographer is second only to Ace2 in cpu usage when sitting in Shattrath ungrouped and doing nothing |
| 21:02.11 | CIA-22 | 03funkydude * r37826 10BigWigs/SC/Vashj.lua: BigWigs: SC/Vashj: another proximity bugfix |
| 21:02.21 | Herio | is there a way with pitbull to get the healthbar as the background like was possible with blend? |
| 21:02.23 | ckknight | Josh_Borke: I think that used to be two separate repeating events |
| 21:03.03 | Josh_Borke | just trying to point it out, like i said, i'm concerned about the CPU usage |
| 21:03.29 | Josh_Borke | and rather than be a dumb user providing screenshots and just saying 'fix it', i'm being proactive and trying to determine the problem myself |
| 21:03.31 | CIA-22 | 03mok * r37827 10xchar/boss.lua: xchar: typo |
| 21:04.48 | Antiarc|Work | Text messaging-style typing makes me want to kill people |
| 21:04.54 | Antiarc|Work | "hi what did you do to hook up your wii mote to your pc i gotta try it it looks gr8 ty bi" |
| 21:05.09 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r37828 10Cartographer/Cartographer.lua: Cartographer - big optimization to :GetCurrentPlayerPosition() if the player isn't moving. |
| 21:05.17 | ckknight | gah, he left |
| 21:05.41 | Antiarc|Work | ckknight: Be sure to scan the player's talents each second |
| 21:05.41 | sbu | no |
| 21:05.41 | CIA-22 | 03funkydude * r37829 10BigWigs_Debugger/Debugger.lua: BigWigs_Debugger: record aura_gone_self |
| 21:05.41 | Antiarc|Work | Because they could change at any time and you want to know if they took a run speed talent |
| 21:05.59 | Herio | antiarc: people who even text like that should be shot |
| 21:06.22 | sbu | err Antiarc|Work, is there any way to debug threat? :/ |
| 21:06.30 | sbu | i have NO idea why i cant see threat from other ppl |
| 21:06.56 | Antiarc|Work | sbu: You could install an addon to watch addon messages |
| 21:07.10 | sbu | tried both, omen/threat and ktm on other plater's client... |
| 21:07.19 | sbu | mh |
| 21:07.19 | Antiarc|Work | Or you can /dump AceLibrary("Threat-1.0").threatTargets |
| 21:07.34 | Antiarc|Work | Or add debug messages to the KTM handlers |
| 21:07.40 | sbu | :0 |
| 21:07.53 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r37830 10PitBull/Aura/Aura.lua: PitBull_Aura - add in a check to make sure that when you start right-clicking, it's the same as when you end right-clicking. (re: canceling buffs) |
| 21:07.54 | ckknight | lol |
| 21:07.54 | ckknight | ...lol |
| 21:07.55 | ckknight | I was thinking about putting an Orwellian talent checker into AceComm, but decided it was out of scope and too much work |
| 21:08.07 | nekoh | Antiarc|Work: Omen is bugging with more than 10 players in the list :O |
| 21:08.29 | hypetech | 12«11nekoh12» what is it doing? |
| 21:08.33 | Antiarc|Work | nekoh: Yeah, just saw that, gonna fix it :) |
| 21:08.48 | nekoh | http://img90.imageshack.us/img90/2023/wowscrnshot053107224450jz2.jpg |
| 21:08.51 | nekoh | overlapping bars |
| 21:09.42 | sbu | hypetech: you want to fix your irc client |
| 21:09.49 | hypetech | what's it doing? |
| 21:10.12 | deltron | annoying colors |
| 21:10.30 | hypetech | :( |
| 21:10.32 | hypetech | sorry |
| 21:10.32 | hypetech | lol |
| 21:12.33 | sbu | is there some way to increase scrollback buffer in wow? |
| 21:12.39 | Fisker- | hmm |
| 21:12.43 | CIA-22 | 03antiarc * r37831 10Omen/Omen.lua: |
| 21:12.44 | CIA-22 | Omen: Fixed overlapping bar issue with more than 10 people using Omen together. |
| 21:12.44 | CIA-22 | Obviously, my guild is full of slackers who won't even install their GL's new |
| 21:12.44 | CIA-22 | addon to help debug it, or I would have caught this. Memo to self: Floggings in |
| 21:12.44 | CIA-22 | order. |
| 21:12.45 | CIA-22 | - (Also added asterisks to threat coming from foreign sources) |
| 21:12.55 | kergoth | Antiarc|Work, lol |
| 21:12.56 | Fisker- | why has teh glaze been removed QQ |
| 21:13.02 | deltron | lmao @ Antiarc|Work |
| 21:13.36 | jme | someone write me an AH bot so i can play the AH at work |
| 21:14.10 | jme | i think it was actually a feature request for the next expansion, heh |
| 21:14.48 | sbu | nekoh: uhm - what texture is used by your dmg meter (violation?)? |
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| 21:15.21 | nekoh | Tooltip |
| 21:15.46 | nekoh | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:16.06 | nekoh | yea i skinned violation a bit :P |
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| 21:16.21 | CIA-22 | 03antiarc * r37832 10Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0/ (Threat-1.0.lua todo.txt): |
| 21:16.21 | CIA-22 | Threat-1.0: Added publish interval scaling. Scales from min of 0.5 sec to max of |
| 21:16.22 | CIA-22 | 1.5 sec depending on party/raid size. This will keep small party sizes closer to |
| 21:16.22 | CIA-22 | realtime without generating excessive traffic, and significantly decrease addon |
| 21:16.22 | CIA-22 | spam for large party sizes at the cost of a small bit of lag. |
| 21:16.25 | hypetech | is it still doing crazy colors? |
| 21:16.38 | kergoth | Antiarc|Work, nice |
| 21:16.48 | Antiarc|Work | :) |
| 21:17.07 | hypetech | nekoh, since I see you're already using Omen in a raid environment, are you finding that it's pretty reliable? |
| 21:17.12 | Antiarc|Work | No. :P |
| 21:17.17 | Antiarc|Work | Oh, that wasn't at me. |
| 21:17.24 | Antiarc|Work | I used it on Gruul last night and it had some problems |
| 21:17.40 | Antiarc|Work | but, our MT and best healer weren't there last night, so we wiped more than we should have |
| 21:17.48 | Antiarc|Work | But I didn't mind because I got to code and /rl between wipes |
| 21:17.50 | Antiarc|Work | \o/\ |
| 21:17.51 | Gagorian | There's some issues about threat juming up and down in pretty weird amounts |
| 21:17.56 | Antiarc|Work | Gagorian: Fixed that. |
| 21:18.14 | Antiarc|Work | I think, anyhow |
| 21:18.16 | Chompers | what caused that issue? |
| 21:18.18 | Antiarc|Work | that reminds me to check something |
| 21:18.42 | shieldb | Antiarc|Work, is there currently a way to hide omen when it's running? |
| 21:18.43 | Antiarc|Work | Adding the global threat delta to the target threat on a global threat change publish |
| 21:18.43 | break19 | has anyone else noticed an issue where if you get invited to a group, it doesnt show up? |
| 21:18.43 | Antiarc|Work | shieldb: /omen toggle |
| 21:18.43 | shieldb | kk |
| 21:18.47 | Gagorian | Now.. can anyone explain to me how Seal of Vengeance works. Any paladins?! |
| 21:19.00 | break19 | Antiarc|Work: |
| 21:19.01 | break19 | [2007/05/31 15:54:09-854-x21]: Threat-1.0\Threat-1.0\ClassModules\Warrior.lua:118: attempt to call method 'GetThreatForUnit' (a nil value) |
| 21:19.05 | break19 | (tail call): ?: |
| 21:19.07 | shieldb | got a few people who are going to help test threat but aren't savvy enough to be able to say "just go download the lib from the updater, omen is just the frontend" :) |
| 21:19.07 | break19 | AceEvent-2.0-37328 (Ace2):1019: in function <Interface\AddOns\Ace2\AceEvent-2.0\AceEvent-2.0.lua:1012> |
| 21:19.17 | sbu | Antiarc|Work: mh, could a running ktm prevent omen/threat from receiving/sending any data? |
| 21:19.46 | kergoth | anyone have any recommendations for gaming mice? i kinda like my logitech wireless, the mx laser, good # of buttons, but i want wired again due to latency |
| 21:20.01 | Antiarc|Work | sbu: It shouldn't |
| 21:20.14 | NightHawkTheSane | kergoth: so get a wired logitech mouse? |
| 21:20.34 | shieldb | kergoth, gogo logitech G5 mouse if you want a wired one? |
| 21:20.40 | kergoth | hehe, figured, was just curious about the consensus.. logitech vs razor vs ms |
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| 21:21.01 | sbu | kergoth: uhm - i havent noticed any latency on my mx |
| 21:21.03 | NightHawkTheSane | *shrug* my logitech's served me well for a long time, so i'm pretty happy with them |
| 21:21.04 | shieldb | I use a G7 (the wireless version, basically) and that's worked great for me |
| 21:21.05 | jme | i grabbed a ms optical mouse for $20 the other night because i was in a pinch |
| 21:21.07 | nekoh | hypetech: im still using ktm atm, omen still seems to not properly sync without master target set |
| 21:21.08 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r37833 10PitBull/Aura/Aura.lua: PitBull_Aura - fix a few typos, localize a few globals |
| 21:21.19 | shieldb | I had my right mouse button go out at one point, and they just shipped me a new one |
| 21:21.23 | hypetech | kergoth: http://www.razerzone.com/index.php?main_page=index&cPath=2_17 |
| 21:21.23 | kergoth | hmmm |
| 21:21.43 | kergoth | also would like wired again due to my dog |
| 21:21.44 | Chompers | logitech mx510, great mouse |
| 21:21.47 | Chompers | if they still make it |
| 21:21.48 | hypetech | kergoth: razer gaming ftw imo |
| 21:21.49 | kergoth | he comes by all staticy and zaps me |
| 21:21.58 | kergoth | which makes the mouse and keyboard stop working for like 10 seconds |
| 21:22.00 | hyperChipmunk | trackman marble > |
| 21:22.01 | kergoth | then they reconnect |
| 21:22.01 | kergoth | hehe |
| 21:22.10 | sbu | errr lol? :p |
| 21:22.23 | CIA-22 | 03nickenyfiken * r37834 10FuBar_TrainerFu/ (3 files in 2 dirs): |
| 21:22.23 | CIA-22 | FuBar_TrainerFu: |
| 21:22.23 | CIA-22 | - Bugfix: Demon trainer nil error. Probably to happen on first visit if closing dialog to fast. |
| 21:22.24 | CIA-22 | - Bugfix: spell/skill descriptions was not gathered from trainers. |
| 21:22.24 | CIA-22 | - Added icons and tooltips to Dewdrop menu. |
| 21:22.29 | hypetech | I <3 my g15 keyboard. I'm so glad they didnt' make that wireless |
| 21:22.42 | ckknight_ | hey, could somebody play some WoW (in party or raid), run DebugFu on PitBull:GetModule("Aura") and take a screenshot for me? |
| 21:22.43 | shieldb | extra 18 keys are very nice |
| 21:23.03 | jme | kergoth: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16826104178 |
| 21:23.07 | kergoth | i think i'm gonna pick up a 5 pack of those tiny flat laptop like logitech ultra x keyboards (i know shuttle shipped their machiens with them for a while) |
| 21:23.10 | CIA-22 | 03adirelle * r37835 10Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0/ClassModules/Pet.lua: Threat-1.0: threw in hunter pet growl scaling. |
| 21:23.11 | jme | kergoth: i'm about to order one of those next paycheck |
| 21:23.27 | kergoth | looks nice |
| 21:24.10 | Ominous | kergoth: added a static bar to classtimer and fixed the flashing (i hope) |
| 21:24.17 | kergoth | nice |
| 21:24.45 | NeoTron | whomever it was that suggested I farm the fort for netherwing eggs - I found one there but unfortunately there seems to be at least several other ppl farming it |
| 21:24.46 | ckknight | okay, how do I figure out the MTs that CTRA specifies? |
| 21:24.57 | ckknight | CTRA/oRA, that is |
| 21:26.05 | Nickenyfiken | Gonna add support for them in PitBull? |
| 21:26.21 | CIA-22 | 03gagorian * r37836 10Omen/Omen.lua: Omen: - Line 94 was missing then |
| 21:26.38 | Adirelle | damn, boars generates insane amounts of threat Oo |
| 21:26.49 | kergoth | -love- my boar on my hunter alt |
| 21:26.53 | kergoth | charge stun ftw |
| 21:27.00 | break19 | Antiarc|Work: did ya see my error I pasted? |
| 21:27.27 | Antiarc|Work | break19: Yeah, checking it. Think I checked in a fix already. |
| 21:27.31 | Gagorian | [2007/06/01 00:25:19-1422-x1]: Threat-1.0-37832 (Threat-1.0):419: attempt to perform arithmetic on field 'lastPartySize' (a nil value |
| 21:27.53 | break19 | kk |
| 21:27.54 | Antiarc|Work | Bah! |
| 21:27.56 | Antiarc|Work | One sec. |
| 21:28.29 | [Ammo] | ckknight: the table is in: oRA.maintanktable |
| 21:28.45 | [Ammo] | the event for oRA = oRA_MainTankUpdate(d) not sure about the d |
| 21:29.50 | [Ammo] | it passes the table |
| 21:29.50 | ckknight | [Ammo]: basically, I want to add capability to PitBull |
| 21:29.51 | ckknight | not sure the easiest way |
| 21:29.51 | Gagorian | Antiarc|Work: It's on login so just make sure the variable is set on initialize |
| 21:29.51 | [Ammo] | well the table is in there |
| 21:29.51 | [Ammo] | shrug |
| 21:29.51 | CIA-22 | 03antiarc * r37837 10Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0.lua: Threat-1.0: Initialize the party size to prevent mean, nasty errorses. |
| 21:29.51 | [Ammo] | CTRA has some global you can query |
| 21:29.54 | cotangent | were you getting that error if you enabled omen while already in a party? |
| 21:30.06 | Antiarc|Work | cotangent: Likely not |
| 21:30.24 | cotangent | hmm I thought it was what I was getting last night |
| 21:30.48 | cotangent | joined a raid then enabled omen and got constant errors |
| 21:31.19 | Gagorian | Antiarc|Work: Any ideas what the residual threat is about? |
| 21:31.41 | Gagorian | It doesn't seem to be healing or gains |
| 21:31.54 | break19 | my wife is havin a weird error.. she's not using any actionbar mods, yet her pet bar keeps showing up below her main bars some times. |
| 21:32.19 | Antiarc|Work | Gagorian: I think it's just a matter of the proper events not being fired to indicate to the display that it should update. |
| 21:32.29 | break19 | Antiarc|Work: why is my omen window only 1 line long? |
| 21:32.58 | Antiarc|Work | break19: It'll expand up to 10 lines as people are detected in combat. |
| 21:33.15 | break19 | supposedly.. but its not :p |
| 21:33.28 | break19 | Im grouped with a mage doin some serious pew pew |
| 21:33.32 | break19 | and its only showin me |
| 21:34.16 | break19 | i use simplecombatlog - would that affect it? |
| 21:34.19 | Antiarc|Work | Shouldn't. |
| 21:34.29 | Antiarc|Work | I probably broke the synching with an earlier commit. sbu had the same problem. |
| 21:34.39 | Antiarc|Work | break19: Does the mage have Threat installed as well? |
| 21:34.48 | durcyn | break19: petbar is anchored to chatframe, not actionbars |
| 21:35.31 | break19 | oh, no... ok. so it only works if someone else has it installed.. kk I thought it could read the combat log to see whats being done by others.. my bad |
| 21:35.38 | Antiarc|Work | break19: Unfortunately, the combat log doesn't give us enough info to accurately determine others' threat |
| 21:36.06 | break19 | durcyn: hmm, so why would it appear on top where it belongs sometimes, and then other times, down below her action bars behind her fubar panel? |
| 21:36.20 | break19 | its not like she moves her chat frames around :) |
| 21:36.46 | durcyn | break19: hell if i know, just thought i'd give you somewhere else to look |
| 21:36.57 | break19 | durcyn: k tnx tho :) |
| 21:37.11 | durcyn | using prat or the like? |
| 21:37.17 | break19 | no, she isnt. |
| 21:37.26 | durcyn | curiouser and curiouser. |
| 21:38.21 | kergoth | Antiarc|Work, line 421 of Threat-1.0.lua, there's a rogue 's' at the beginning of a line, probably an accidental typo :) |
| 21:38.49 | Ominous | what was the good replacement for sct |
| 21:39.03 | jme | what would you guys say the most usable threat monitor is now? |
| 21:39.12 | Ominous | KTM for now |
| 21:39.32 | kergoth | Ominous, msbt? |
| 21:39.50 | Ominous | ya |
| 21:40.01 | Chompers | msbt |
| 21:40.01 | Ominous | its not per chance up[dated on an svn somewhere is it |
| 21:41.28 | Antiarc|Work | KTM's more reliable than Threat right now, but not for long if I can help it >:) |
| 21:41.28 | jme | heh, cool |
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| 21:41.29 | CIA-22 | 03gagorian * r37838 10Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0.lua: Threat-1.0: - Removed the mysterious s |
| 21:41.56 | Antiarc|Work | Gagorian: Thanks for catching my dumbass typos :D |
| 21:43.26 | Chompers | Antiarc, to you think people will call the threat meter Omen, or something else? |
| 21:44.27 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r37839 10PitBull/PitBull.lua: PitBull - a few typo fixes, a few optimizations |
| 21:44.32 | ckknight | why wouldn't they call it Omen? |
| 21:45.31 | NeoTron | is Omen the name of the addon that uses Threat-1.0? (not keeping up to speed with the furious "ktm sucks" movement :-) |
| 21:45.55 | Kalman| | Omen is a prototype display addon for the Threat backend. |
| 21:45.57 | hyperChipmunk | yes |
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| 21:46.29 | NeoTron | so will omen be compatible to ktm similar to ora <-> ctra? |
| 21:46.29 | sdouble | Yeah, what's wrong with Omen anyway? Afterall, there is a unitframe addon named after a vicious dog. |
| 21:46.35 | hypetech | that's something I was wondering as well. Do we see omen being the new standard frontend, or is it just for testing Threat-1.0, and we should expect a different frontend to arise? |
| 21:46.42 | Chompers | exactly ck, as its just the frontend, i cant see it being called that |
| 21:46.45 | NeoTron | I think Omen is a good name |
| 21:47.06 | Chompers | maybe call it 'threat' |
| 21:47.11 | NeoTron | would be cool to integrate threat into unit frames |
| 21:47.12 | sdouble | The work is Threat, omen is just there to display it. |
| 21:47.42 | ckknight | sdouble: said UF will bite your face off, btw |
| 21:47.43 | sbu | Antiarc|Work: going to some instance later, is it possible to redirect the output of /dump AceLibrary("Threat-1.0") to a file? |
| 21:47.50 | sbu | should be enough to debug then ;p |
| 21:47.58 | sdouble | hehe |
| 21:48.25 | sdouble | I can think of no other unitframe addon I would rather have bite my face off. |
| 21:48.35 | ckknight | lol |
| 21:48.53 | NeoTron | frankly I prefer my face not being bitten off, but that's just m |
| 21:48.53 | ckknight | well you're just a pansy |
| 21:49.00 | Antiarc|Work | sbu: No, not really |
| 21:49.17 | sbu | mh :/ |
| 21:50.00 | Antiarc|Work | For all intents and purposes, the end user will see "Omen" as the threat meter. |
| 21:50.05 | hypetech | how could razer ever market such an ugly product? :( http://www.razerzone.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=2_21&products_id=52 |
| 21:50.11 | Antiarc|Work | Threat-1.0 is an embedded lib that the user doesn't have to worry themselves about |
| 21:50.17 | hypetech | guess that's what happens when microshaft comes into play |
| 21:50.32 | Antiarc|Work | Also, I expect to develop Omen into a Class-A frontend |
| 21:50.37 | snurre | <3 |
| 21:50.44 | Antiarc|Work | It's a testing frontend right now because there's no sense in writing a pretty UI for a broken backend. |
| 21:50.45 | snurre | Antiarc for presidant! |
| 21:50.50 | ckknight | Antiarc|Work: pshaw, only A? |
| 21:50.58 | Antiarc|Work | Class-AAA+? |
| 21:51.05 | ckknight | A+++ |
| 21:51.18 | ckknight | good threat meter. would raid with again A++++++++++ |
| 21:51.20 | Antiarc|Work | Class-Valedictorian |
| 21:51.34 | Kalman| | In a class of 2. |
| 21:51.42 | Antiarc|Work | yeah, but that's just details. |
| 21:51.49 | Ominous | what is the most efficient/best bar mod atm? |
| 21:52.10 | break19 | i like bartender |
| 21:52.30 | hypetech | bartender as well here :) |
| 21:52.31 | sdouble | Hmm, that keyboard looks pretty lame for $70 |
| 21:52.44 | hypetech | sdouble: I agree |
| 21:53.03 | hypetech | bartender can but a bar/button anywhere you want |
| 21:53.20 | hypetech | put* |
| 21:53.34 | sdouble | I used to use trinity but switched to Bartender3 |
| 21:53.47 | sdouble | I love it |
| 21:54.09 | hypetech | rolling restarts lol |
| 21:54.11 | sdouble | Though I really liked the keymapping with trinity. |
| 21:54.22 | CIA-22 | 03gagorian * r37840 10DrDamage/DrDamage.lua: |
| 21:54.22 | CIA-22 | DrDamage: |
| 21:54.22 | CIA-22 | - Fixed lightning capacitor error |
| 21:54.51 | hypetech | Antiarc|Work: will omen sync with KTM? so if I'm the only one using Omen/Threat-1.0 will I still see threat if everybody else still uses KTM? |
| 21:55.09 | ckknight | hypetech: on the todo list |
| 21:55.13 | hypetech | cool |
| 21:57.13 | ulic | of course only your numbers might be accurate :) |
| 21:57.27 | Aenslaed | how do you sync an event driven system to a polling system without reverting to polling? |
| 21:57.48 | Antiarc|Work | Aenslaed: In the end, it all comes down to the data being transmitted over the wire. |
| 21:58.00 | Antiarc|Work | Not much of a problem to just spy on traffic and incorporate it. |
| 21:58.05 | Blime | WTB [Gnomish Demoronificator], PST |
| 21:58.05 | mjc | ckknight: drool |
| 21:58.11 | mjc | Antiarc|Work: sex |
| 21:59.23 | kergoth | hmm, fubar_crafttimersfu could use support for stuff that isnt directly a tradeskill cooldown, like the salt shaker |
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| 22:01.18 | BankZ | Does Pitboss lag anyone else out? |
| 22:01.35 | ckknight | should I audit Threat-1.0 agan? |
| 22:01.51 | rophy | hi ckknight |
| 22:01.54 | ckknight | suppose I'm not really doing anything else |
| 22:01.56 | ckknight | hey rophy |
| 22:01.57 | hypetech | Antiarc|Work: any idea why I can't hit enter while "/omen toggle" is in my chat box |
| 22:02.16 | Antiarc|Work | hypetech: Sounds like an error's being thrown. Check your errorl og. |
| 22:02.22 | rophy | why does one's FixLogString prevent each other's from breaking? |
| 22:02.27 | rophy | s/why/how/ |
| 22:02.31 | Antiarc|Work | ckknight: Feel free. I've kinda been hacking away on it with reckless abandon. |
| 22:02.55 | ckknight | rophy: if one is run, the other's aren't run, by definition |
| 22:03.01 | hypetech | Antiarc|Word: A whole ton of "attempt to compare nil with number" |
| 22:03.05 | ckknight | since strings are only fixed if not fixed previously |
| 22:03.10 | peoii | Antiarc|Wor: [2007/05/31 15:02:08-16-x1]: Interface\FrameXML\ChatFrame.lua:3363: AceConsole-2.0: Omen: Option handler "Toggle" not found.: |
| 22:03.14 | ckknight | I've tested this out with SWStats and Parser-3.0 |
| 22:03.44 | rophy | ckknight: which part of the code defined that? |
| 22:03.52 | mjc | This code I'm writing is supposed to populate our database with data we get from files from cruise lines... it's like trying to add by counting the cells on the bottom of your feet while being suspended in a vat of hot grits |
| 22:03.52 | Antiarc|Work | Hrm. I'll look into 'em. |
| 22:04.02 | kergoth | Antiarc|Work, why does threat/omen show an asterisk next to my threat, adn that of my pet? |
| 22:04.03 | ckknight | rophy: defined what? |
| 22:04.15 | rophy | 'if it is fixed already then dont fix' |
| 22:05.02 | Antiarc|Work | kergoth: It should be doing that if it thinks that threat is coming from KTM, but I haven't tested it. |
| 22:05.10 | Antiarc|Work | Lots o' drycode today :D |
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| 22:07.45 | ckknight | rophy: oh, basically, there's two parts: making the standard ambiguities not so reverrent, e.g. "%ss" for Deutsch has to be gotten rid of and such, which does need to match up (roughly) between fixers, there's the second part that makes all strings unique, which can be arbitrary as long as the job gets done. |
| 22:07.56 | Killmore | Antiarc|Work: Message: ..\AddOns\Threat-1.0\Threat-1.0\Threat-1.0.lua line 421: '=' expected near 'local' |
| 22:08.07 | NightHawkTheSane | "Don't they teach recreational mathematics anymore?!" |
| 22:08.25 | Antiarc|Work | Killmore: Revision? |
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| 22:09.43 | Killmore | threat r37837 |
| 22:09.43 | Killmore | omen -r37836 |
| 22:10.09 | Antiarc|Work | Killmore: Update, Gagorian fixed that one :) |
| 22:10.16 | kergoth | Antiarc|Work, ah.. bug then :) thats cool, its svn trunk :) |
| 22:10.19 | kergoth | umm what was i gonna ask |
| 22:10.31 | kergoth | oh, does it reset the threat on a mob when the mob i have targeted dies? |
| 22:11.00 | Killmore | Antiarc|Work: oh, just not available yet on WAU, need to wait couple of min. |
| 22:11.09 | Kinkx | Ag_UnitFrames is freezing people at the loading screen if they try to login within a full raid instance :o |
| 22:11.13 | Antiarc|Work | kergoth: No, because there might be another mob with the same name in combat, and you don't know how much threat has been done to it. |
| 22:11.22 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r37841 10Ace2/AceComm-2.0/AceComm-2.0.lua: .AceComm-2.0 - allow :RegisterMemoizations to receive a tuple of strings as well as a table of strings. |
| 22:11.23 | Antiarc|Work | Threat should be wiped when you exit combat, however. |
| 22:11.57 | kergoth | Antiarc|Work, ah. it isnt being wiped on exiting combat here |
| 22:12.07 | kergoth | its just building up as i kill a bunch of these mobs in a row, with time between |
| 22:12.13 | Antiarc|Work | kergoth: Then that's a bug and should be fixed when I can test it :) |
| 22:12.16 | kergoth | :) |
| 22:12.26 | rophy | ckknight: er... and so where defines 'if it's fixed already then dont fix'? o_O |
| 22:13.22 | ckknight | rophy: I just said. If you don't understand what I wrote, I really don't feel like explaining again |
| 22:13.32 | ckknight | not to be a dick, but read what I wrote |
| 22:13.54 | rophy | you explained what FixLogStrings is trying to fix, which I knew already |
| 22:14.56 | ckknight | in those two parts, if it's done once, it's impossible to do again |
| 22:15.03 | ckknight | cause fixing the second time has no effect |
| 22:15.47 | rophy | ckknight: this is on FixLogString used when no locales are matched (I assume it is enUS) return str:gsub("(%%%d?$?s)('s)", "%1% %2") |
| 22:16.05 | ckknight | right... |
| 22:16.28 | rophy | .............wait, I see what you mean now. |
| 22:16.46 | Antiarc|Work | For IsSpellInRange, does the spell name need to be localized? |
| 22:17.00 | nevcairiel | yes |
| 22:17.00 | Antiarc|Work | That is, does IsSpellInRange("Attack", unit) work, or will it need to be localized? |
| 22:17.04 | Antiarc|Work | Ok, great. |
| 22:17.23 | nevcairiel | wonder if auto attack counts tho =P |
| 22:17.31 | ckknight | IsSpellInRange(BS["Attack"], unit) |
| 22:17.34 | nevcairiel | but you need locale |
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| 22:17.58 | CIA-22 | 03antiarc * r37842 10Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0.lua: Threat-1.0: Added UnitInMeleeRange(unitID) |
| 22:18.18 | Fisker- | that reminds |
| 22:18.19 | Fisker- | me |
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| 22:18.31 | Fisker- | kinda silly that kenco used inspect range for being in melee range |
| 22:18.36 | nevcairiel | anyway, we just downd karathresh again and i got my t5 kilt .. and going to sleep now .. nite! |
| 22:18.38 | Fisker- | i mean couldn't he just use the melee range itself? :D |
| 22:19.25 | Arrowmaster | he probably wrote that back when inspect range was 5 yards and there wasnt IsSpellInRange |
| 22:20.14 | CIA-22 | 03antiarc * r37843 10Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0.lua: Threat-1.0: Removed the totally-original-and-not-stolen-from-BigWigs bandages table - we don't need 'em for range checks. |
| 22:20.15 | snurre | hm, crazy.. for no reason at all, no less than 3 girls i havent seen or heard from since elementary school decided to poke me on facebook o.O |
| 22:20.25 | kergoth | Antiarc|Work, another bug ;) my pet and i were in combat at login, the pet was fighting the mob.. i started helping, and there was no threat recorded for the pet for the entire fight, even though he was still hitting the mob after i finished logging in |
| 22:20.28 | kergoth | Antiarc|Work, if you see what i mean |
| 22:20.43 | Fisker- | to bad you're gay snurre |
| 22:20.44 | Antiarc|Work | Yup. Issue with the pet name being briefly unknown. |
| 22:20.44 | Fisker- | OH SNAP |
| 22:21.01 | snurre | Fisker-: well, that's good news for you though :p |
| 22:21.25 | Fisker- | indeed |
| 22:21.26 | kergoth | ah |
| 22:21.31 | rophy | ckknight: I see, I think that works. Another issue is, how do other addons make sure a FixLogStrings loads first when the fix is embedded in another addon? |
| 22:21.33 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r37844 10Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0/ (Threat-1.0.lua ThreatBuffsData.lua): Threat-1.0 - nil ThreatInitData on call |
| 22:21.51 | Wogroipl | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:22.02 | Adirelle | misdirection's still broken (well, it mainly spew errors) |
| 22:22.17 | ckknight | rophy: there's no real way except to fix it themselves first, or be sure to load something that does, or to use a proper third-party parser |
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| 22:23.25 | rophy | ckknight: not every addon have a FixLogString, and many addons dont use those 3 parsers we mentioned. |
| 22:23.47 | Kalman| | Antiarc: Well. 7 points of damage is enough to overcome VE threat. |
| 22:23.52 | Kalman| | So it's either threatless or VERY low. |
| 22:24.28 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r37845 10Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0/ (ThreatBuffsData.lua ThreatClassModuleCore.lua): Threat-1.0 - make the ThreatConstants camelCase instead of lowercase. |
| 22:25.05 | ckknight | rophy: but will they be loaded before or after Parser/SWStats? |
| 22:25.50 | Gagorian | ANy alliance paladin here with a few minutes of time for some testing? |
| 22:25.50 | rophy | ckknight: if parser is embedded in artibary addon, won't they? |
| 22:25.50 | rophy | loaded before Parser |
| 22:26.10 | ckknight | theoretically, but I don't like living in the land of theory, I prefer to stay in a pragmatic reality |
| 22:26.40 | rophy | what one is unreal? that an addon will parse combat logs, or parser will embed in arbitary addon? |
| 22:27.11 | ckknight | the theoretical addon you're describing |
| 22:27.40 | rophy | er... an addon which parses combat logs and does not use the know centralized parsers? |
| 22:27.46 | rophy | s/know/known/ |
| 22:28.26 | rophy | ckknight: I can name a few, if that's what you mean. |
| 22:28.34 | ckknight | sure |
| 22:29.01 | ckknight | then gotta somehow convince them to either fix the logs or come up with some kind of system to detect them |
| 22:29.31 | rophy | ckknight: IMO the easiest way to detect is to have the fix external, and setting OptDeps to it. |
| 22:29.49 | ckknight | but I don't want to bother the user with an extra addon |
| 22:29.50 | rophy | ckknight: in that case, we only need to convince them to add that 'standard FixLogString' as OptDeps. |
| 22:29.53 | ckknight | people don't like dependencies |
| 22:30.00 | CIA-22 | 03funkydude * r37846 10BigWigs/Outland/Magtheridon.lua: BigWigs: Outland/Magtheridon: frFR fix |
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| 22:30.10 | rophy | you don't, it's up to the users to decide if they want to fix or not, for those 'dumb users', just dont fix it. |
| 22:30.12 | Chompers | Antiarc, is there a list of the filters i can use for sanitybags? |
| 22:30.21 | Antiarc|Work | Chompers: I don't have a list offhand, no |
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| 22:30.23 | Chompers | trying to find a filter for ore/bars |
| 22:30.36 | ckknight | rophy: you're telling me to ignore 98% of the addon population |
| 22:30.40 | Antiarc|Work | name:ore, name:bar |
| 22:30.40 | Garsalos | hey |
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| 22:30.43 | Antiarc|Work | Might that work? |
| 22:31.01 | Gagorian | OK, I hate all alliance paladins! |
| 22:31.12 | Chompers | it puts everything with ore or bar in, including greens and stuff |
| 22:31.13 | ckknight | Gagorian: even me? |
| 22:31.14 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r37847 10Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0/ (Threat-1.0.lua ThreatClassModuleCore.lua): Threat-1.0 - renamed GetUnitInCombat to IsUnitInCombat |
| 22:31.20 | rophy | ckknight: I don't see how the 98% of addon population cannot use Parser-3.0 without FixLogStrings. |
| 22:31.32 | Chompers | + fertile spores |
| 22:31.33 | Antiarc|Work | ckknight: I have doc on the API in the wiki, too, so function renames need to be updated there too |
| 22:31.35 | ckknight | rophy: 98% of the addon population consists of "dum users" |
| 22:31.46 | ckknight | Antiarc|Work: most of your functions need fixing. |
| 22:31.50 | Antiarc|Work | chompers: try name:" ore" |
| 22:31.54 | Antiarc|Work | ckknight: No doubt :D |
| 22:32.12 | rophy | may be, but I don't see how those 98% dumb users cannot user Parser-3.0 without using FixLogStrings? |
| 22:32.46 | rophy | s/user/use/ |
| 22:32.47 | Gagorian | ckknight: If so, then.. I have to say yes. I'd need to get someone to test why Seal of Vengeance debuffs applications aren't detected correctly in DrDamage. |
| 22:33.01 | ckknight | rophy: because if that happens, then the combat log is fucked up and ambiguous |
| 22:33.07 | Chompers | that worked, thanks Antiarc :D |
| 22:33.21 | ckknight | Gagorian: sorry, not that high |
| 22:33.21 | Garsalos | if anyone here can explain to me .toc files and .lua files please pm me |
| 22:33.31 | ckknight | rophy: and said users will bitch saying it's wrong |
| 22:33.35 | ckknight | rophy: through no fault of my own |
| 22:33.51 | rophy | ckknight: not sure about some locales, but enUS zhTW zhCN works in most case. |
| 22:34.02 | rophy | which is more than 2% of the users. |
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| 22:34.14 | ckknight | true, but frFR and deDE are fucked up by default |
| 22:34.18 | ckknight | I know that for a fact |
| 22:34.29 | ckknight | and that makes up a significant portion as well. |
| 22:34.52 | rophy | probably not 98% though. |
| 22:34.56 | sbu | GNAAA |
| 22:34.57 | sbu | *stab ckk* |
| 22:34.58 | sbu | AceComm-2.0\AceComm-2.0.lua:1557: 'do' expected near 'doe' |
| 22:35.04 | LePeR|Jaunia | yea same here |
| 22:35.07 | ckknight | d'oh |
| 22:35.12 | sbu | :) |
| 22:35.18 | Antiarc|Work | doe, a loop, a female loop. |
| 22:35.20 | Garsalos | Ok so does anyone know of a mod that allows you to control vent from in game? |
| 22:35.25 | NightHawkTheSane | lol |
| 22:35.26 | Antiarc|Work | for, a long long way to iterate. |
| 22:36.23 | Antiarc|Work | me, a name KTM calls itself |
| 22:36.23 | ckknight | rophy: 25% maybe. It's significant. |
| 22:36.23 | Antiarc|Work | I messed up but whatever |
| 22:36.23 | ckknight | Garsalos: impossible. |
| 22:36.36 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r37848 10Ace2/AceComm-2.0/AceComm-2.0.lua: .AceComm-2.0 - apparently do is spelled "do", not "doe". I blame ...France for this one. |
| 22:37.18 | Garsalos | Is there any way to make a in-game console of it like X-Fire does |
| 22:37.29 | Arrowmaster | yes |
| 22:37.34 | Garsalos | u know like u press a key combo and xfire pops up in game |
| 22:37.36 | Arrowmaster | but its not possible with an addon |
| 22:37.45 | Antiarc|Work | VoiceOverlay lets you see who is talking. |
| 22:37.53 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r37849 10Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0.lua: Threat-1.0 - rename :GetCombatTimeFor => :GetCombatTimeForUnit |
| 22:38.33 | Arrowmaster | and im perty sure you can use the bindings in vent to make keybindings to switch channels |
| 22:38.38 | Garsalos | ok so how would you get a consol of it in-game |
| 22:38.46 | Garsalos | ok kool |
| 22:38.49 | ckknight | Garsalos: VoiceOverlay |
| 22:38.52 | Garsalos | ty for the help arow |
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| 22:40.13 | rophy | ckknight: many out of those 25% will use some addon which parses combat logs, embedded FixLogStrings only changes the users from "possible complains to ckknight" to "guaranteed breakage of other addons and complains to those authors" |
| 22:40.25 | Sole | good morning |
| 22:40.44 | Gagorian | ckknight: Can I modify pitbull range check for warlocks to actually return a useful range for hostile targets? :P |
| 22:40.47 | ckknight | but at least those authors aren't me |
| 22:40.53 | ckknight | Gagorian: yea, sure |
| 22:40.56 | rophy | ckknight: of course... if you dont care other addons outside the Ace2 world, then our views are probably too different |
| 22:41.06 | sbu | or get a G15 keyboard :p |
| 22:41.09 | ckknight | I care, slightly |
| 22:41.21 | ckknight | but probably not too much |
| 22:42.28 | Keias | hrm, Skinner recolored borders now? |
| 22:42.39 | rophy | ckknight: and the care is not much enough to make the FixLogStrings external so that every authors live happily together? |
| 22:42.55 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r37850 10Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0/ (Threat-1.0.lua ThreatNPCModuleCore.lua): Threat-1.0 - rename :HasPet() => :DoesPlayerHavePet() |
| 22:42.57 | ckknight | no, users don't like dependencies |
| 22:43.18 | rophy | ya, but the authors don't like an addon breaking theirs if they dont want to use their library. |
| 22:43.20 | CIA-22 | 03funkydude * r37851 10BigWigs/SC/Vashj.lua: BigWigs: SC/Vashj: add the engage yells & message, need translated |
| 22:43.40 | rophy | the users of those authors too. |
| 22:43.51 | Chompers | does periodic.table have any catagory for herbs? |
| 22:43.54 | CIA-22 | 03funkydude * r37852 10BigWigs/SC/Lurker.lua: BigWigs: SC/Lurker: fix proximity |
| 22:45.00 | Sole | Nymbia: hihi |
| 22:45.04 | rophy | ckknight: anyway... I see your point of view, i won't try to force you into following "my styles" if you don't want to. |
| 22:45.35 | ckknight | things are fucked already, I've already received bug reports regarding ambiguous strings from some German guy |
| 22:45.53 | ckknight | Antiarc|Work: bad. You don't document your APIs standardly. |
| 22:46.18 | Antiarc|Work | ckknight: I emulated the AceEvent page. Is there standards and procedures documentation somewhere? |
| 22:46.24 | ckknight | yea |
| 22:46.31 | ckknight | you're close, really |
| 22:46.33 | ckknight | a few things: |
| 22:46.36 | Antiarc|Work | If you can point me at it, I'll fix it up |
| 22:46.42 | ckknight | arguments that are strings are like "arg" |
| 22:46.43 | ckknight | not arg |
| 22:47.15 | ckknight | Antiarc|Work: for your examples, if they return something, do local thing = Threat:blah() |
| 22:47.21 | ckknight | not just Threat:blah() |
| 22:47.23 | Antiarc|Work | Right. |
| 22:47.31 | ckknight | your methods should start with : |
| 22:47.36 | ckknight | the titles, I mean |
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| 22:49.05 | sbu | wow Antiarc, it seems to work |
| 22:49.22 | sbu | but there is at least 1 bug ;p |
| 22:49.56 | ckknight | Antiarc|Work: can I change GetGroupThreatForTarget(target) to IterateGroupThreatForTarget(target) or is there a good reason why it returns a table? |
| 22:50.31 | Antiarc|Work | Sure, it's not used right now AFAIK. I mostly just wanted people to be able to get a list of people who have threat on a mob. |
| 22:51.15 | ckknight | k |
| 22:51.20 | ckknight | it's bad karma to return tables |
| 22:51.21 | sbu | Antiarc: i have a way higher threat if i target a friendly unit |
| 22:51.44 | Antiarc|Work | sbu: Elaborate? |
| 22:51.59 | hypetech | anybody here use grid's missingbuffs module? |
| 22:52.00 | Antiarc|Work | If you target a friendly, Omen will iterate up to 5 targettargets to try to find a hostile |
| 22:52.55 | Hjalte | hypetech, i do |
| 22:53.41 | hypetech | hjalte, it's not working for me. did you have to do anything special? I'm trying to get it to work for AB/AI, I"m a mage |
| 22:53.46 | CIA-22 | 03ulic * r37853 10Chronometer/Core/Chronometer.lua: |
| 22:53.46 | CIA-22 | Chronometer: |
| 22:53.46 | CIA-22 | - Core Fix: pass rank number, not full string, when target="none" |
| 22:53.55 | CIA-22 | 03pettigrow * r37854 10BigWigs/Karazhan/ (13 files): BigWigs: Karazhan: frFR Update |
| 22:54.17 | BankZ | Anyone know with Pitbull if the icons (leader, master loot, ect) can have the position and size changed? |
| 22:54.26 | CIA-22 | 03ammo * r37855 10LockSmith/LockSmith.lua: LockSmith: add [31952] = 325, -- Khorium Lockbox thanks to Nirek |
| 22:54.50 | Ominous | is anyone using ClassTimer here and has been using the sticky bar? |
| 22:55.01 | Hjalte | Hypetech, nothing special needed to be done. I do remember though, that it didnt work at some point, but then later, it started working. Have you remembered to "activate" the buffs you want checked? |
| 22:55.47 | ckknight | BankZ: I've been meaning to put that in |
| 22:56.20 | hypetech | hjalte, the only thing I have done, is go to the Arcane Brilliance option, and checked "Enable", does it take more than that? |
| 22:56.47 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r37856 10Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0.lua: Threat-1.0 - replaced :GetGroupThreatForTarget with :IterateGroupThreatForTarget |
| 22:56.55 | sbu | Antiarc: hmm ok |
| 22:56.57 | Hjalte | If you've enabled it, and assigned it to an indicator, I don't think it should require more. |
| 22:56.59 | Sole | Ominous: Ive been using CT but not sticky bar, whats that option do? |
| 22:57.02 | sbu | after healing my threat just doubles |
| 22:57.11 | hypetech | hjalte, how do you assign an indicator? |
| 22:57.12 | Ominous | Sole: means you dont need to focus |
| 22:57.15 | Ominous | for sap etc |
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| 22:57.18 | sbu | if i change target after healing its back to normal |
| 22:57.23 | Ominous | just means its less reliable |
| 22:57.27 | Sole | Ominous: ahh |
| 22:57.30 | Antiarc|Work | sbu: Ok, good info. I'll check it out. |
| 22:57.37 | sbu | could be something with KTM |
| 22:57.49 | Hjalte | Hypetech, eh, you need to assign it to one of the corner indicators. I'm not currently logged in, but it's in one of the other top menues. |
| 22:57.54 | sbu | (hes running both, KTM and omen/threat) |
| 22:58.17 | sbu | Antiarc: and some druid error |
| 22:58.18 | sbu | line 126 |
| 22:58.29 | hypetech | hjalte...ahh, that makes sense, thank you |
| 22:58.39 | Antiarc|Work | sbu: What file? |
| 22:58.42 | sbu | attempt to call GetMaxThreat |
| 22:58.46 | sbu | Druid.lua |
| 22:59.23 | ckknight | that's a bug |
| 22:59.27 | ckknight | GetMaxThreat no longer exists |
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| 22:59.46 | sbu | heh ;o |
| 22:59.58 | Antiarc|Work | Oh, lemme go fix that. |
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| 23:02.08 | Ominous | whats in this "Hacking World of Warcraft" to make it so worthwile? |
| 23:02.08 | hyperChipmunk | probably nothing for us |
| 23:03.03 | CIA-22 | 03antiarc * r37857 10Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0/ClassModules/ (Druid.lua Warrior.lua): Threat-1.0: Fixed Growl and Taunt, I think. The case with a lack of a targettarget needs review. |
| 23:03.03 | hyperChipmunk | i mean, i pretty much taught cladhaire eveerything he knows |
| 23:03.03 | cladhaire | Ominous: you could read the table of contents to get an idea for yourself. |
| 23:03.04 | Antiarc|Work | I haven't even thought about how to implement Righteous Defense yet. |
| 23:03.18 | Antiarc|Work | That's gonna be a bitch and a half. |
| 23:03.45 | NeoTron | it's like a multi-target taunt right? |
| 23:03.47 | cladhaire | Ominous: Its a good book for the average WoW player, and those people who want to become authors |
| 23:04.12 | NeoTron | taunt on 3 enemies of your friendly target? |
| 23:04.16 | Antiarc|Work | NeoTron: Yes, that you cast on a friendly. |
| 23:04.27 | Antiarc|Work | But...it's possible to not even know about those enemies when you use it. |
| 23:04.28 | NeoTron | very hard to figure that one out |
| 23:04.30 | NeoTron | right |
| 23:04.44 | Antiarc|Work | KTM just assumes it's a taunt. |
| 23:04.44 | NeoTron | in all honesty |
| 23:04.49 | Wogroipl | lol I do a +24 ap enchant on the bracers of a character named Grim |
| 23:04.57 | NeoTron | the main pioint where a threat meter is every useful is for single specific targets |
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| 23:05.03 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r37858 10Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0.lua: Threat-1.0 - ThreatLib_NotifyOutOfDate now specifies what player has a newer version. |
| 23:05.06 | NeoTron | multi-target fights become useless for threat meters in general |
| 23:05.16 | Sole | nymbia: pingpong |
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| 23:05.49 | hyperChipmunk | not many threat-relavent fights with multiple same-name targets though |
| 23:06.04 | Wogroipl | and Simplecombatlog shows: [You] +24 Attack Power {Grim's Spymistress"] Wristguards |
| 23:06.14 | sbu | Antiarc: mh whats the * in there? |
| 23:06.32 | Antiarc|Work | sbu: That should indicate that the data is coming from a non-ThreatLib source (read: KTM) but I suspect it's not functioning properly. |
| 23:07.24 | NeoTron | I'm tempted to go heavy destruction (41-44 pts) for SSC |
| 23:07.48 | NeoTron | hydross + affliction doesn't mix and shadowfury would be useful both on hydross (esp frost adds) and moragrim |
| 23:08.09 | sbu | Antiarc: yep... its on every bar (even mine...) |
| 23:09.35 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r37859 10Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0.lua: Threat-1.0 - rename :UsingForeignThreatSource => :IsUsingForeignThreatSource |
| 23:09.35 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r37860 10Omen/Omen.lua: Omen - UsingForeignThreatSource => IsUsingForeignThreatSource |
| 23:09.41 | CIA-22 | 03funkydude * r37861 10BigWigs/Karazhan/TheBigBadWolf.lua: BigWigs: Karazhan/TheBigBadWolf: fix options |
| 23:12.16 | Kaelten | so svn is acting as it should now? |
| 23:12.20 | sbu | mhh |
| 23:12.21 | sbu | strange |
| 23:12.41 | sbu | Antiarc: he disabled KTM and i dont see the threat anymore... |
| 23:13.00 | ckknight | Kaelten: seems to be |
| 23:13.01 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r37862 10Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0.lua: Threat-1.0 - make sure that the MINOR_REVISION you're checking against is the greatest of the whole library, not just Threat-1.0 |
| 23:13.11 | Antiarc|Work | sbu: I'll fix it tonight :) |
| 23:13.21 | NeoTron | is Threat supposed to be KTM compatible? |
| 23:13.32 | Antiarc|Work | Eventually, yes |
| 23:13.38 | NeoTron | cool |
| 23:13.54 | NeoTron | I can't see the whole guild switching (immediately at least, but probably over time) |
| 23:14.17 | Sole | am I silly or is nymbia using a global here? db = Quartz:AcquireDBNamespace("GCD") I cant seem to find any place where he declares this as a local |
| 23:14.22 | ckknight | NeoTron: your guild needs a more autocratic leadership |
| 23:15.04 | Sole | ^ |
| 23:16.52 | abyssichate | ckknight: did aura highlighting break in PitBull? |
| 23:16.58 | sbu | Antiarc: i have news for you :o |
| 23:16.59 | ulic | just show them some screen caps of cpu/memory usage, I'm sure they'll flip :) |
| 23:17.01 | ckknight | it's possible, abyssichate |
| 23:17.06 | sbu | give me 1min for screenshot |
| 23:17.11 | abyssichate | Yeah, I saw you did some changes |
| 23:17.29 | ckknight | btw, Antiarc, Threat-1.0 won't be able to detect that kind of power gain you get if you're using Parser-1.1 and not in enUS |
| 23:18.19 | BankZ | Whats BarFader in Pitbull do? |
| 23:18.24 | ckknight | abyssichate: you mean debuff highlighting or just the auras themselves |
| 23:18.38 | ckknight | BankZ: makes the health/mana bars slide smoothly instead of staggered |
| 23:18.52 | ckknight | it's neat eye-candy, but don't do it on raid frames |
| 23:18.56 | Gagorian | ckknight: Want to take a look before commit? Added a secondary function for low distance spells. |
| 23:19.04 | sbu | ckknight: which power gain? |
| 23:19.36 | ckknight | sbu, Antiarc: I meant what, not that |
| 23:19.50 | BankZ | ckknight: does it slow things down? |
| 23:20.00 | ckknight | BankZ: yes, technically |
| 23:20.16 | ckknight | but not by much if you're just doing it on player/pet/target and such |
| 23:21.44 | sbu | Antiarc: http://img529.imageshack.us/img529/6446/wowscrnshot060107011417ze9.jpg - see chat (dump) + omen |
| 23:21.48 | abyssichate | ckknight: the auras themselves, the borders |
| 23:21.59 | cladhaire | Which Ace addons use LightHeaded data? |
| 23:22.07 | cladhaire | Just two of them right now, right? |
| 23:22.12 | NeoTron | so why is it you need to water walk to get to morogrim btw? is there some lock mechanism or path blocked due to lurker or hydross being alive? |
| 23:22.25 | NeoTron | don't have a clear view where you're "supposed" to go |
| 23:23.24 | Funkeh` | NeoTron: theres a ton fo trash |
| 23:23.43 | NeoTron | ah so it's not necessary but a huge time sink if you don't |
| 23:23.49 | Funkeh` | indeed |
| 23:24.01 | sbu | Antiarc: so i recieve threat for another hexsum (= another target?) |
| 23:24.03 | Funkeh` | i wouldn't say that big, maybe 30 minutes now since its been nerfed to utter crap |
| 23:24.39 | ckknight | Antiarc|Work: technically, Parser-1.1 will return the localized form of Mana/Rage/Energy/Focus, instead of the English kind, that can mess up your code theoretically |
| 23:25.15 | Antiarc|Work | ckknight: Hm, ok. I'll have to think on that. |
| 23:25.35 | ckknight | Parser-3.0 smartly provides both English and localized :-P |
| 23:26.22 | ckknight | the localized form is MANA/RAGE/ENERGY/FOCUS, btw |
| 23:26.30 | nekoh | sbu: does lembo use another locale version of the game ? |
| 23:26.33 | Antiarc|Work | sbu: Something's obviously borked. |
| 23:26.39 | sbu | nekoh: yup |
| 23:26.40 | NeoTron | so the very first bog lord type trash |
| 23:26.45 | nekoh | its not working yet |
| 23:26.52 | NeoTron | when do they shit out adds when they die? |
| 23:27.04 | NeoTron | happened the first two times, not the second two... |
| 23:27.08 | nekoh | i pointed Antiarc in the direction but he didnt update it |
| 23:27.09 | shieldb | NeoTron, they're like the anubisath guys from AQ40 |
| 23:27.19 | shieldb | they have a pool of abilities and only use some of them |
| 23:27.21 | NeoTron | oh different abilities |
| 23:27.32 | sbu | nekoh: but he doesnt even see my global (aka healing) threat |
| 23:27.36 | Antiarc|Work | nekoh: I think I got that taken care of, but I haven't verified it yet. |
| 23:27.44 | NeoTron | one is the acid err poop, one is some quake thing? |
| 23:27.51 | sbu | which should be target independent? |
| 23:27.52 | shieldb | for the 'during combat' abilities you can get acid geyser, spore quake + rampant infection, or frenzy |
| 23:28.09 | nekoh | i think i also know why you get threat from ktm, when theres a master target set.. and do not get it when theres no master target set |
| 23:28.09 | Antiarc|Work | global threat should be target-independent, yes. |
| 23:28.29 | nekoh | i think it wont fire events for all targets when only the global threat changes |
| 23:28.33 | shieldb | for the 'on death' abilities you can get toxic pool, 2 big adds, 4 smaller adds, 10+ tiny adds, healing mushrooms, or nothing |
| 23:28.36 | Antiarc|Work | nekoh: It should |
| 23:29.52 | shieldb | they also have a random elemental vulnerability that mages can use detect magic to figure out |
| 23:29.52 | nekoh | that could also be the issue why it shows threat when u get out of combat, but im trying to track that down atm, so not sure about it |
| 23:33.20 | CIA-22 | 03antiarc * r37863 10Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0.lua: Threat-1.0: Update threat on all known targets when remote global threat is updated. |
| 23:35.22 | CIA-22 | 03antiarc * r37864 10Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0.lua: Threat-1.0: Optimizations to THREAT_UPDATE |
| 23:35.28 | CIA-22 | 03gagorian * r37865 10PitBull/RangeCheck/RangeCheck.lua: |
| 23:35.28 | CIA-22 | PitBull: PitBull_RangeCheck: |
| 23:35.28 | CIA-22 | - Added secondary (close range) range check function |
| 23:35.28 | CIA-22 | - Added range checks for warlocks (shadowbolt/corruption and close range fear) |
| 23:35.28 | CIA-22 | - Added fireball and fireblast for mages |
| 23:36.27 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r37866 10Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0.lua: Threat-1.0 - optimizations, slight structure change. |
| 23:38.41 | nekoh | Antiarc: MOB_NAME_TRANSLATION_REPLY() is still using self.mobNameTranslations as [otherLocal_mobName][otherLocal] = myLocal_mobName, but it supposed to be (and is used anywhere else) as [myLocal_mobName][otherLocal] = otherLocal_mobName |
| 23:39.38 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r37867 10Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0.lua: Threat-1.0 - made combatFlags local instead of a field on the library |
| 23:40.29 | Antiarc|Work | nekoh: Good catch, I'll fix it. |
| 23:40.52 | nekoh | thank you |
| 23:41.55 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r37868 10Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0.lua: |
| 23:41.55 | CIA-22 | Threat-1.0 - optimized the combatFlags situation, since you don't need to track |
| 23:41.55 | CIA-22 | if you're both in combat and what time combat started, you just need to track |
| 23:41.55 | CIA-22 | the time it started (nil if not in combat). This saves a while table per unit. |
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| 23:43.13 | CIA-22 | 03antiarc * r37869 10Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0.lua: Threat-1.0: Fixed problem using foreign mob names as keys in MOB_NAME_TRANSLATION_REPLY (thanks nekoh). |
| 23:44.02 | ckknight | Antiarc|Work: the whole combat flags thing seems screwy, since you don't set it for your party members |
| 23:44.38 | Antiarc|Work | ckknight: yeah, I agree. I think we can probably implicitly set it on first threat event received, and then drop it on LEFT_COMBAT |
| 23:44.41 | ckknight | though I dunno |
| 23:45.02 | CIA-22 | 03wobin * r37870 10FuBar_HeyFu/ (Core.lua FuBar_HeyFu.toc): FuBar_HeyFu: Fixed teknicolor reference to work with current teknicolor on http://tekkub-wow.googlecode.com/svn/trunk/teknicolor/ |
| 23:45.21 | Chompers | sanitybags is really powerful once you get the hang on the filtering |
| 23:45.24 | Antiarc|Work | Internally, it's just used to not publish threat when we're not in combat (think post-rez healing), but I can see it being useful for GUI functions such as TPS calculations over the course of a fight |
| 23:45.31 | Chompers | awesome |
| 23:45.38 | Antiarc|Work | Though I guess the GUI could just track the first event from a name, and use that in itself. |
| 23:46.04 | Antiarc|Work | We can probably rip out everything except the incombat boolean for player/pet and de-API-ify the methods. |
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| 23:47.25 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r37871 10Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0.lua: Threat-1.0 - remove .groupMemberThreat, does nothing |
| 23:47.26 | nekoh | Antiarc|Work: you might also want to change the way UNIT_TARGET works for getting translation names for targets. atm it just requests translations of YOUR OWN target only, but i think its better to try to translate every other target aswell, because there are lots of fight with multiple targets, where you just target one mob til its dead, while other tanks already built up aggro on other targets, that would be saved under a different hash, when |
| 23:47.57 | ckknight | I agree with nekoh |
| 23:48.09 | ckknight | partyXtarget and such |
| 23:48.14 | nekoh | yea |
| 23:48.14 | ckknight | and pets |
| 23:48.16 | Antiarc|Work | nekoh: The idea is that if there are multiple people in the raid running ThreatLib, they all pick different targets, request translations, and then everyone passively listens to those replies and saves data from them where it is of interest to them. |
| 23:48.19 | ckknight | until everything is translated |
| 23:48.21 | wobin | hash wot? |
| 23:48.26 | ckknight | ah, I suppose. |
| 23:48.44 | Antiarc|Work | I don't want every person in the raid requesting a translation for every mob the raid has targeted - that'd be overly redundanty |
| 23:48.47 | Antiarc|Work | -y |
| 23:48.53 | deltron | can you set a main target in omen yet? |
| 23:48.57 | Antiarc|Work | deltron: No need. |
| 23:49.27 | deltron | okey |
| 23:49.27 | deltron | good :) |
| 23:49.27 | Antiarc|Work | Your main target is whatever you have targeted (or what your target has targeted, if your target is friendly) |
| 23:50.05 | Antiarc|Work | The one hole in my approach comes from people damaging targets that have not been targeted by anyone running ThreatLib, but I'd think that in a raiding situation, that'd be extremely rare. |
| 23:50.05 | nekoh | mh yea thats true, but they wont request, when someone else already requested that.. i guess we need some more testing there |
| 23:51.17 | deltron | does violation work outside of party? |
| 23:51.24 | nekoh | yes |
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| 23:51.29 | Antiarc|Work | If I'm enUS and you're deDE, I target a mob, you see it, request a translation, then on my reply, everyone running an enUS or deDE client will see the reply and store it as it is appropriate to their locale |
| 23:51.44 | Antiarc|Work | So in one query-reply you've localized however many people for that mob |
| 23:52.00 | Mikk | Re PeriodicTable: Would it be a good idea to put in e.g. a :ItemCanGoInContainer(itemid, containeritemid) function? It's sort of a thing that could benefit from central updates though its area of use is a wee bit narrow? (Bag mods, Fence, .. perhaps some more) |
| 23:52.32 | nekoh | i know that, but this _can_ lead to alot of situations, where mobs stay unlocalized |
| 23:52.38 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r37872 10Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0.lua: Threat-1.0 - remove field ThreatLib.threatTargets, instead replace with local threatTargets |
| 23:52.58 | deltron | ok it didn't show my healing done, but it showed my HPS when I just tested it |
| 23:52.59 | nekoh | for a short time at least |
| 23:53.11 | nekoh | and when not all members of your raid are using threatlib |
| 23:53.24 | ckknight | hey Antiarc|Work, why are threatTargets' values set to be readonly? |
| 23:53.42 | Antiarc|Work | ckknight: I was originally passing that table to GUIs, and didn't want 'em messing with it |
| 23:53.44 | Antiarc|Work | that's cruft now |
| 23:53.51 | ckknight | I'll handle it |
| 23:54.43 | Antiarc|Work | nekoh: I don't think iterating all targets would be a good idea, because you only care about target data for people that are running threatlib anyway, since you can't check UnitIsUnit() with people who aren't running threatlib |
| 23:55.01 | Antiarc|Work | Oh, nevermind |
| 23:55.08 | Antiarc|Work | I guess you could use partyXtarget and pass that around |
| 23:55.18 | Mikk | That's not constant |
| 23:55.25 | Mikk | party1 for me isn't party1 for you |
| 23:55.31 | Antiarc|Work | Oh, that's right |
| 23:55.37 | Antiarc|Work | In which case my assertation holds true |
| 23:55.51 | Mikk | you CAN pass player names around tho |
| 23:56.06 | vodrin | can you still change combat log range? or is that just outdated addons on the svn |
| 23:56.32 | Mikk | vodrin: There are people here saying that people have told them that you can change it again in 2.1 |
| 23:56.40 | Mikk | I haven't seen anyone say they've verified it tho |
| 23:56.43 | kenlyric|home | what setting changes the little target buff bars on the player unit frame in pitbull? |
| 23:56.48 | Mikk | And I haven't verifeid it myself |
| 23:56.53 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r37873 10Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0.lua: Threat-1.0 - remove the readonly stuff, as it's now unnecessary |
| 23:57.10 | vodrin | hmm i'll give it a test, should be easily testable with dueling |
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| 23:58.47 | nekoh | Antiarc|Work: mh i dont know what you mean atm.. xou dont need to iterate all units, you just listen to UNIT_TARGET events and checks it the player which target just changed is using threatlib in another local and if his new target is already localesed in his local, if not: use the MOB_NAME_TRANSLATION_REQUEST which is already implemented .. you dont pass any partyX(target) around |
| 23:59.29 | Chompers | http://img.waffleimages.com/74f78cade85fa75cf9c4eb57b3422764d523396b/sanity.jpg |
| 23:59.32 | Chompers | horay! |
| 23:59.52 | Antiarc|Work | In those cases, you have to make a request for every other locale in the raid, and everyone of that foreign locale will respond |
| 23:59.54 | Antiarc|Work | It'll be really chatty |
| 23:59.54 | Chompers | wish it worked for the bank too |
| 23:59.58 | vodrin | consumeable rawr |
