| 00:00.42 | Roartindon | Peoii: Not for me anymore |
| 00:00.49 | kaiden | cladhaire, i know this punk just quit the guild because i called him out on saying your code was inefficient and buggy |
| 00:00.51 | Roartindon | Peoii: Since 2.1, it triggers as soon as I start to cast a spell |
| 00:01.06 | Roartindon | Peoii: I used to trigger invis, wait 2 sec, cast fireball |
| 00:01.11 | kaiden | dunno why it made me so angry, this guy was just the common jerk that always had something negative to say |
| 00:01.11 | cladhaire | kaiden: hahahahahah thats awesome |
| 00:01.26 | cladhaire | Cladhaire, causing guild drama since 2004 |
| 00:01.28 | Peoii | Roartindon: hrm, that worked for me just 2 nights ago in Kara.... |
| 00:01.41 | Roartindon | Peoii: Hmm.. interesting.. it didn't work for me on Gruul yesterday |
| 00:01.46 | Peoii | Bizarre. |
| 00:01.47 | *** join/#wowace Ominous_ (n=Ominous@81-178-92-235.dsl.pipex.com) |
| 00:01.52 | hyperChipmunk | i'd quit my guild too if someone told me cladhaire's code wasn't bloated and buggy! |
| 00:01.54 | Roartindon | Peoii: I'll have to see if /stopcasting macros are interfering |
| 00:01.56 | hyperChipmunk | that dude sucks! |
| 00:02.12 | kaiden | claidhaire, what made me laugh was he posted in guild chat something he said he copied from you a s a notice you put up saying that 2.1 opened your eyes to how infficient lightheaded was |
| 00:02.17 | Roartindon | Peoii: I just assumed that it was changed in 2.1; since it always worked fine before then |
| 00:02.26 | kaiden | and that you ntoiced it using 70-100mb of ui memory when the db was opened |
| 00:02.35 | cladhaire | yeah, that post doesn't exist |
| 00:02.38 | Peoii | Roartindon: It might be that invis is still listed as "casting" until you're actually invis... lemme check right now ;) |
| 00:02.58 | Roartindon | Peoii: Cool, let me know.. I'm not online atm :) |
| 00:03.12 | kaiden | cladhaire, i know i told him to stop pulling random numbers out of his ass or fake posts and someone else did as well and he started talking crap so we let into him for about 20 mins and he eventually just /gquit |
| 00:03.18 | kaiden | ok now i've had my drama for the day |
| 00:03.19 | hyperChipmunk | Antiarc: is there an option to show both? my pet is in melee range, but i'm ranged |
| 00:03.21 | kaiden | gonna go eat a burrito |
| 00:03.22 | cladhaire | nice :P |
| 00:03.34 | Peoii | Roartindon: bah, it botched up with a mob agroing, 5 minutes :P |
| 00:03.53 | Roartindon | Peoii.. d'oh. |
| 00:04.09 | Peoii | Eh, that's what I get for trying to do it on Netherwing Ledge. |
| 00:04.12 | Antiarc | hyperChipmunk: Erm...hm. |
| 00:04.16 | Antiarc | No, I don't have that right now. |
| 00:04.36 | CIA-22 | 03gagorian * r38350 10DrDamage/ (4 files in 3 dirs): |
| 00:04.36 | CIA-22 | DrDamage: |
| 00:04.36 | CIA-22 | - Added option for usage of super mana pots (for mages also mana gems) into casts left calculation with regen. Disabled by default. |
| 00:05.19 | hyperChipmunk | Antiarc: omg /leave |
| 00:06.47 | Sole | someone gimme a name for a hunter! |
| 00:06.50 | Sole | kgo |
| 00:07.05 | Peoii | What race? |
| 00:07.10 | Sole | orc I think |
| 00:07.12 | Neebler | legolass. omg he was SO COOL IN LOTR!~ |
| 00:07.32 | Peoii | HunTard? |
| 00:07.42 | Neebler | I crack myself up |
| 00:07.44 | Peoii | with your pet PewPew |
| 00:08.02 | durcyn | Orcolas |
| 00:08.02 | Peoii | sorry, old guild joke... |
| 00:08.07 | Sole | lol |
| 00:08.33 | Peoii | Roartindon: ok, stopcasting alone didn't do it... hrm, weird. |
| 00:08.42 | Sole | my warriors name is Buttbomb as an example |
| 00:08.46 | cladhaire | kaiden: next release of LH is much more memory/cpu happy actually |
| 00:09.03 | cladhaire | Threat-1.0:310 attempt to concatenate field '?' (a nil value) |
| 00:09.04 | Roartindon | Peoii: So it's working okay for you? |
| 00:09.15 | Peoii | Roartindon: yea, it's working just fine. |
| 00:09.15 | cladhaire | Antiarc: that's in rev 36348 |
| 00:09.18 | chutwig | did something in pitbull's rangecheck break? |
| 00:09.19 | hyperChipmunk | >8\ pet agro still inaccurate |
| 00:09.26 | Roartindon | Peoii: Interesting, I'll have to see what it is screwing meup then |
| 00:09.39 | *** join/#wowace abyssichate (n=aby@81-174-24-57.f5.ngi.it) |
| 00:09.46 | Roartindon | Because not being able to wipe aggro properly is a real pain :) |
| 00:10.46 | Peoii | oye, tell me about it... |
| 00:11.24 | ZealotOnAStick | heh, .05 second TPS updates is kinda cool, but difficult to read. |
| 00:11.39 | Peoii | wru good ol' days of Thunderfury warriors basically having a nice solid agro lock on the mob :/ |
| 00:11.47 | hyperChipmunk | http://69.14.77.214/petthreat.png with pet using just growl and bite |
| 00:12.18 | hyperChipmunk | and somehow holding agro O_o |
| 00:12.41 | cs-cam | hyperChipmunk: what threatmeter is that? not ktm is it? |
| 00:12.49 | theoddone33 | I'm guessing it's omen |
| 00:13.00 | hyperChipmunk | it's Omen |
| 00:13.07 | hyperChipmunk | Omen/Threat-1.0 |
| 00:13.33 | cs-cam | thank you |
| 00:13.45 | hyperChipmunk | been hiding under a rock this week? |
| 00:13.57 | cs-cam | yup :P |
| 00:15.21 | theoddone33 | what's the threshold for losing aggro, like 110% or something |
| 00:15.21 | CIA-22 | 03adirelle * r38351 10Violation_CombatLogRange/Violation_CombatLogRange.lua: |
| 00:15.21 | CIA-22 | Violation_CombatLogRange: |
| 00:15.21 | CIA-22 | - increased max range to 200. |
| 00:15.21 | CIA-22 | - activation mode defaults to "party" (since "instance" seems bugged ATM). |
| 00:15.21 | Roartindon | theoddone33: for melee range, yes. 130% for ranged |
| 00:15.21 | apl | 110% at melee distance, 130% for ranged |
| 00:15.21 | hyperChipmunk | aha, looks like growl ain't pickin' up |
| 00:15.22 | apl | or 130% outside of melee distance |
| 00:15.29 | hyperChipmunk | growl's pretty important =p |
| 00:15.33 | kenlyric | heh, I don't think mypet's threat is getting reset. |
| 00:15.39 | theoddone33 | I'm guessing it's attacks rather than distance :P |
| 00:15.42 | kenlyric | he just did 4k threat with one hit :) |
| 00:15.46 | hyperChipmunk | distance |
| 00:15.55 | hyperChipmunk | kenlyric: wtb your pet =) |
| 00:16.08 | theoddone33 | so a mage in melee range chain casting frostbolt can pull aggro easier? |
| 00:16.10 | kenlyric | at level 25 . |
| 00:16.11 | aen` | anyone know how to fix text fuzziness when on lower UI scale |
| 00:16.14 | hyperChipmunk | yen |
| 00:16.16 | hyperChipmunk | yes |
| 00:16.20 | theoddone33 | that's interesting |
| 00:16.24 | aen` | i have an LCD so it shouldnt be a prob |
| 00:16.30 | CIA-22 | 03adirelle * r38352 10Violation/Other/Banzai.lua: |
| 00:16.30 | CIA-22 | Violation: |
| 00:16.30 | CIA-22 | - effectively added aggro duration module (based on BanzaiLib). |
| 00:16.38 | hyperChipmunk | basically, it's the mob's resistance to moving to have to hit you |
| 00:16.39 | apl | that's why you get the fuck away from the middle when MT brings Hydross over |
| 00:16.42 | Adirelle | kenlyric: upadte threat, first growl scaling where borked |
| 00:16.46 | LePeR|Jaunia | Threat-1.0-38348 (Threat-1.0):310: attempt to concatenate field '?' (a nil value) |
| 00:16.49 | hyperChipmunk | if he can hit you without moving, he will |
| 00:16.55 | theoddone33 | got it |
| 00:16.58 | hyperChipmunk | if he has to move, you gotta piss him off even more |
| 00:16.59 | CIA-22 | 03antiarc * r38353 10Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0.lua: Threat-1.0: Fixed a problem with a potentially nil party unit |
| 00:17.13 | hyperChipmunk | adds stability to fights |
| 00:17.23 | hyperChipmunk | otherwise mobs would be running all over the place |
| 00:17.32 | theoddone33 | yeah |
| 00:17.37 | theoddone33 | makes sense now |
| 00:17.52 | kenlyric | ah, I see the error now, "CancelThreatPublishPet" |
| 00:18.04 | kenlyric | which I'm guessing is part of clearing the threat. |
| 00:18.25 | hyperChipmunk | that's kind of a reach |
| 00:18.28 | hyperChipmunk | are you sure? |
| 00:18.32 | Adirelle | notice that any level 70 boar with charge and growl generates about 4000 threat in one hit (but not a level 25 pet) |
| 00:18.40 | abyssichate | Does pet's threat get added to hunter's one? |
| 00:18.45 | hyperChipmunk | no |
| 00:18.49 | Adirelle | abyssichate: god no |
| 00:18.58 | Aenslaed | hrm |
| 00:19.09 | kenlyric | "cancel threat publish" sounds like something threat related :) |
| 00:19.13 | Adirelle | anyway, night ! |
| 00:19.15 | Aenslaed | does Omen recieve and display KTM threat values? |
| 00:19.18 | kenlyric | 2007/06/03 19:58:39-189-x17]: Threat-1.0\Threat-1.0\ThreatClassModuleCore.lua:494: attempt to call method 'CancelThreatPublishPet' (a nil value) |
| 00:19.21 | Antiarc | Aenslaed: Yes |
| 00:19.26 | Antiarc | kenlyric: Update |
| 00:19.27 | Aenslaed | thought I read that it did, but I couldn't get it to work just now |
| 00:19.37 | Antiarc | Aenslaed: It should anyway |
| 00:19.46 | Aenslaed | was in a 2 man raid. Had the KTM person set target, hit it, nothing showed up for me |
| 00:20.05 | Aenslaed | no errors beside that publish pet one that just got posted |
| 00:22.20 | FtH|Daemona | you are really busy Antiarc :) |
| 00:23.10 | theoddone33 | anyone else on a server where kael has been downed? wondering how long the buff lasts |
| 00:23.13 | theoddone33 | guessing til next reset |
| 00:23.31 | abyssichate | we downed him right now |
| 00:23.35 | Antiarc | FtH|Daemona: Yes :D |
| 00:23.37 | abyssichate | there is no expiration countdown to it |
| 00:23.41 | theoddone33 | yeah |
| 00:23.50 | theoddone33 | ours has been up for 3-4 days |
| 00:24.50 | kaiden | what is the buff? |
| 00:25.02 | theoddone33 | 5% increased damage/rep in tempest keep instances I think |
| 00:25.07 | theoddone33 | flew out of shatt so I can't see it atm |
| 00:25.11 | nymbia | ours was up til the server crashed yesterday |
| 00:25.38 | theoddone33 | then it probably is until reset |
| 00:26.47 | nekoh | Antiarc: its actually 90% -> 80% -> 70% -> 60% -> 0% on invisibility |
| 00:26.58 | nekoh | because after 5 sec you enter invisible state |
| 00:27.10 | nekoh | that wipes your threat |
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| 00:29.06 | Antiarc | nekoh: Hm, ok. I can change that easily enough. Someone else said that you hit 0% on the 6th tick |
| 00:29.16 | CIA-22 | 03fenlis * r38354 10Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0/NPCModules/SerpentshrineCavern/Leotheras.lua: |
| 00:29.16 | CIA-22 | Threat-1.0: |
| 00:29.16 | CIA-22 | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:29.44 | CIA-22 | 03antiarc * r38355 10Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0/ClassModules/Mage.lua: Threat-1.0: Change invis to 0% on the 5th tick, not the 6th |
| 00:29.50 | nekoh | well you fade for 5 seconds, but the second its faded, you gain invisible state |
| 00:29.53 | hyperChipmunk | Antiarc: when Misdirection is cast, the arguments that are passed to the ClassBuffs are (0, '', 3) |
| 00:30.07 | CIA-22 | 03antiarc * r38356 10Omen/Omen.lua: Omen: Fix to prevent inflated TPS numbers from KTM |
| 00:30.08 | JoshBorke | hm, so, GetZoneYardSize eats all the processing while not moving |
| 00:30.27 | hyperChipmunk | when it is lost, it sends ('lose', '', 1) |
| 00:31.09 | hyperChipmunk | i'm thinking there's some sort of mistake in one of those |
| 00:31.12 | ZealotOnAStick | Antiarc: ace.pastey.net/50043 |
| 00:32.05 | sbu | Antiarc: did you find out about that tank threat vs. tank-target threat problem? |
| 00:32.53 | Antiarc | ZealotOnAStick: Fixed aready |
| 00:33.09 | Antiarc | hyperChipmunk: That doesn't make sense o.0 |
| 00:33.26 | nekoh | Antiarc: why dont you include the npc modules in threat-1.0.xml.. aren't they stable enough to be tested ? (leotheras for example) |
| 00:33.28 | Antiarc | Oh, that does make sense |
| 00:33.30 | hyperChipmunk | i know |
| 00:33.35 | hyperChipmunk | that's why i'm telling you about it |
| 00:33.38 | hyperChipmunk | idiot |
| 00:33.50 | Antiarc | nekoh: I have only done minimal NPC module testing so I haven't enabled them yet |
| 00:34.10 | Antiarc | I need to add a single-mob threat wipe mechanism before I'm ready to open that one up |
| 00:35.00 | JoshBorke | yea! idiot! |
| 00:35.26 | nekoh | okay, but i suppose i can include them (cause we're doing leotheras atm) and test them and my computer won't explode? :P |
| 00:35.46 | Antiarc | nekoh: It shouldn't explode, but I don't guarantee it'll work in any way, shape, or form :P |
| 00:35.50 | CIA-22 | 03grennon * r38357 10AutoTurnin/AutoTurninGlobals.lua: |
| 00:35.50 | CIA-22 | AutoTurnin: |
| 00:35.50 | CIA-22 | -more netherdrake quests |
| 00:36.06 | nekoh | hehe thats as good as they weren't active for me :) |
| 00:37.19 | hyperChipmunk | Antiarc: i ran them and my computer exploded |
| 00:37.24 | Antiarc | hyperChipmunk: Sucks to be you |
| 00:38.14 | Antiarc | ckknight: Ping if you're around |
| 00:38.35 | Antiarc | Guildmate is reporting that Threat wasn't properly upgrading from an older version stuck in Pitbull |
| 00:39.36 | JoshBorke | why's threat in pitbull? |
| 00:39.48 | hyperChipmunk | because ckknight put it there |
| 00:39.55 | Antiarc | To provide threat values on unit frames |
| 00:40.02 | JoshBorke | oh, ok |
| 00:40.24 | hyperChipmunk | that's basically ubiquity ftw O_o |
| 00:40.31 | aen` | anyone know how to fix text fuzziness when on lower UI scale |
| 00:40.34 | JoshBorke | seems to make sense to me... |
| 00:40.34 | aen` | i have an LCD so it shouldnt be a prob |
| 00:40.56 | hyperChipmunk | aen`: clean your glasses |
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| 00:43.08 | FtH|Daemona | great grennon, now that i am done you add em -.- |
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| 00:46.46 | Peoii | FtH|Daemona: ok, so you can answer me a question :P |
| 00:46.55 | Peoii | Can you still do the daily quests once max exalted? |
| 00:53.59 | ckknight | hey all |
| 00:54.00 | ckknight | back |
| 00:54.42 | ckknight | Antiarc: old version stuck in PitBull? how do you mean? |
| 00:56.05 | Aenslaed | if you have omen/threat and KTM running at the same time, will Omen display double your threat? |
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| 00:56.12 | kebinusan | I thought you couldnt use cooldowns longer than 10 minutes in the arena |
| 00:56.18 | hyperChipmunk | 15 |
| 00:56.37 | kebinusan | ah |
| 00:57.22 | ckknight | Aenslaed: no, only takes Threat-1.0 |
| 00:57.38 | Antiarc | ckknight: He upgraded Omen and its revision number was reading the same as the revision number of Pitbull, which was older |
| 00:57.47 | ckknight | hrm |
| 00:57.50 | Antiarc | Removing the Threat lib from Pitbull got him the upgraded version |
| 00:57.58 | ckknight | I guess I'll be looking into that, then |
| 00:58.03 | Antiarc | Sounds like an upgrade path problem, but I don't really know the whole library structure |
| 00:58.07 | FtH|Daemona | Peoii i cant tell you, cause i am at 10/10 and 4am reset wasnt yet |
| 01:01.05 | cladhaire | Antiarc: Did you see my message about Threat.lua:310? |
| 01:01.37 | Antiarc | cladhaire: Should already be fixed |
| 01:01.41 | cladhaire | ok |
| 01:01.48 | ckknight | Antiarc: oh damn, I totally know the issue. |
| 01:01.52 | Antiarc | ckknight: ?> |
| 01:02.35 | ckknight | Threat-1.0 opts out on the first file that's out of date |
| 01:02.42 | ckknight | instead of at the end... |
| 01:04.42 | CIA-22 | 03antiarc * r38358 10Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0/ThreatClassModuleCore.lua: Threat-1.0: Fixed another inverted inCombat check |
| 01:04.59 | CIA-22 | 03antiarc * r38359 10Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0/ThreatClassModuleCore.lua: Threat-1.0: Debug messages = awesome |
| 01:05.19 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r38360 10Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0.lua: Threat-1.0 - use a tailored binary checksum instead of a hex checksum. This saves 3 bytes per hash, makes it _slightly_ harder to debug, and there shouldn't be any issues sending across the stream. |
| 01:05.33 | ckknight | Antiarc: you do realize the absurdity of having both a petPublishing and playerPublishing check, right? |
| 01:05.34 | harl|WoW | can i prevent /startattack from telling me that there's nothing to attack when using it in a macro somehow ? |
| 01:05.56 | Antiarc | ckknight: no, because the pet or the player or both can be in combat, and we want data when either is publishing? |
| 01:06.02 | Antiarc | err, either is in combat |
| 01:06.11 | FtH|Daemona | sure, unregister the event before and re-register it after /startattack @ harl|WoW |
| 01:06.40 | Antiarc | If the pet's in combat and we aren't, we should still be publishing the pet's threat |
| 01:06.47 | Thorgard^2 | If your pet's in combat you're in combat automatically, no? |
| 01:06.55 | shieldb | Antiarc, getting some weirdness with leo on threat clearing - it's clearing everyone's threat at the proper time, except my own :P |
| 01:06.58 | Antiarc | No, don't believe so |
| 01:07.00 | undu | not necessarily |
| 01:07.06 | Antiarc | shieldb: Known bug there, I'll fix it. |
| 01:07.10 | Thorgard^2 | Really? :o |
| 01:07.14 | Antiarc | Thorgard^2: Yup |
| 01:07.30 | Antiarc | Pet attacks mob -> feign death -> your pet's in combat, you aren't |
| 01:07.46 | ckknight | Antiarc: I thought if one was in combat, then the other would be by definition |
| 01:07.49 | Antiarc | shieldb: I'm working on a single-mob threat wipe API |
| 01:07.54 | Antiarc | ckknight: I don't believe so |
| 01:08.01 | Thorgard^2 | Antiarc, since when does that work, though? |
| 01:08.02 | ckknight | hrm |
| 01:08.07 | harl|WoW | FtH|Daemona: uhm, ok. that would be.. ERR_NO_ATTACK_TARGET ? can i unregister that using a macro somehow ? |
| 01:08.13 | Antiarc | I'll doublecheck it, but I'm pretty sure they aren't linked |
| 01:08.19 | shieldb | Antiarc, in this case it may be a weird display issue |
| 01:08.20 | Antiarc | If they are linked, I'll revert it |
| 01:08.25 | Antiarc | shieldb: It is. |
| 01:08.35 | shieldb | ahh, ok |
| 01:08.58 | CIA-22 | 03celellach * r38361 10AtlasLoot/ (PvP/Battlegrounds.en.lua Reputation/rep.lua Sets/sets.lua): |
| 01:08.58 | CIA-22 | AtlasLoot: |
| 01:08.58 | CIA-22 | - Loot improvements |
| 01:09.28 | hyperChipmunk | Antiarc: shall i modify the hunter module to accept 0/'lose' as the first args, or will that be changed? |
| 01:09.46 | hyperChipmunk | right now it checks 'gain'/'lose' |
| 01:09.56 | Antiarc | hyperChipmunk: It should be getting gain/lose as the first parameter. Hrm. |
| 01:10.15 | ckknight | Antiarc: this whole multi-file library thing makes upgrading horribly complex, you know |
| 01:10.24 | hyperChipmunk | did you fix it recently? |
| 01:10.50 | Antiarc | Ah, fixing it |
| 01:10.55 | Thorgard^2 | Antiarc, pet attacking, FDing, player stays in combat. |
| 01:11.00 | Antiarc | ckknight: Heh, I know, but it'd be hell to maintain otherwise. |
| 01:11.05 | Antiarc | Thorgard^2: o.0 |
| 01:11.07 | Antiarc | Hm. Ok. |
| 01:11.10 | ckknight | true. |
| 01:11.28 | hyperChipmunk | Threat-1.0.lua:58: attempt to call global 'math_floor' (a nil value) |
| 01:11.41 | CIA-22 | 03antiarc * r38362 10Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0/ThreatClassModuleCore.lua: Threat-1.0: Fixed problem with buff action not getting sent to class modules. |
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| 01:12.28 | Antiarc | hyperChipmunk: math_floor isn't even in the codebase! |
| 01:12.45 | hyperChipmunk | well that's what it says! |
| 01:12.48 | Cyerie | =P |
| 01:12.58 | Antiarc | Stack trace? |
| 01:13.21 | Antiarc | It's in AceComm, so I'll bet that ckk's tailored hash broke it >_> |
| 01:13.25 | hyperChipmunk | i need to go afk |
| 01:13.28 | hyperChipmunk | sry =P |
| 01:13.31 | ckknight | ah, dammit |
| 01:14.56 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r38363 10Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0.lua: Threat-1.0 - fix math_floor and string_char references |
| 01:16.13 | FtH|Daemona | so whats the eta for threat forcing ktm to retire? ;) |
| 01:16.20 | Antiarc | ASAP! |
| 01:16.23 | Antiarc | *grin* |
| 01:16.24 | sbu | -1 day? :p |
| 01:16.26 | Antiarc | Soon, I hope |
| 01:16.44 | Antiarc | ckknight: I found the source of the nil class module -> PublishThreat thing |
| 01:16.44 | FtH|Daemona | btw, had a look at the pic i posted on the elitistjerks thread? |
| 01:16.52 | Antiarc | KTM data incoming before the player class module loaded |
| 01:16.55 | Antiarc | FtH|Daemona: Lemme look |
| 01:16.57 | ckknight | Antiarc: ah. |
| 01:17.09 | FtH|Daemona | got myself somehow banned.... so i cant check myself if you replied |
| 01:17.20 | ckknight | hey, _G.klhtm is the reference to KTM, right? |
| 01:17.52 | FtH|Daemona | i'd guess so ckk, something like global ktm threat value deferrer? |
| 01:18.27 | Antiarc | FtH|Daemona: o.0 |
| 01:18.31 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r38364 10Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0.lua: Threat-1.0 - opt out of :SendKLHTMMessage if _G.klhtm is detected. |
| 01:18.35 | Antiarc | FtH|Daemona: Which picture? |
| 01:19.00 | FtH|Daemona | p4 or so, omen front end design |
| 01:19.06 | Antiarc | Ah, yeah, sure did |
| 01:19.20 | sbu | Cartographer_Quests\addon.lua:1279: attempt to index local 'value' (a nil value) |
| 01:19.21 | sbu | x10000 |
| 01:19.22 | sbu | :o |
| 01:19.29 | CIA-22 | 03damjau * r38365 10WhoDrop/ (4 files): WhoDrop - add data |
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| 01:27.21 | sbu | meh wtb badge of tenacity |
| 01:28.51 | ckknight | someone editted Leotheras and fucked up all the translations, Antiarc |
| 01:29.54 | Antiarc | hm, looks ok here |
| 01:30.02 | sbu | see 38354 |
| 01:30.04 | sbu | ckknight |
| 01:30.12 | Antiarc | Oh, weird byte |
| 01:30.14 | Antiarc | bytes* |
| 01:30.22 | Antiarc | It's in UTF8 |
| 01:30.44 | ckknight | no |
| 01:31.08 | nekoh | french got destroyed at least :X |
| 01:31.09 | ckknight | it's in UTF-8 improperly converted to ANSI converted to UTF-8 |
| 01:31.29 | ckknight | commit coming |
| 01:31.37 | ckknight | to hopefully fix the out-of-date stuff |
| 01:31.40 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r38366 10Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0/ (21 files in 6 dirs): |
| 01:31.40 | CIA-22 | Threat-1.0 - no longer opt-out early when an out-of-date file is detected, as another file may be actually a newer version, so the check is done at the end. |
| 01:31.40 | CIA-22 | - The cleanup process is kinda cruddy atm. |
| 01:34.11 | ckknight | actually, perhaps I know a better way... |
| 01:34.18 | ckknight | though equally crazy. |
| 01:34.21 | ckknight | well, no |
| 01:34.23 | ckknight | slightly more |
| 01:35.28 | Kirkburn|afk | nevcairiel, BT4? I'm intrigued ... |
| 01:35.40 | Gnarfoz | who cares about crazy, we're way past that with _you_ ckknight :p |
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| 01:35.48 | ckknight | perhaps |
| 01:37.07 | aen` | whats diff from buffalo2/1 |
| 01:37.42 | Thorgard^2 | :o |
| 01:38.37 | Gnarfoz | good question, haven't tried buffalo2 yet :D |
| 01:39.32 | chutwig | buffalo2 will sort your buffs in zany and wacky ways and not match up the right buffs and durations |
| 01:39.41 | chutwig | also you can't lock it in place yet so it's kind of a WIP |
| 01:39.44 | aen` | so b1 it is |
| 01:40.08 | Gnarfoz | no, no, get 2 :P |
| 01:43.48 | ckknight | alright, I have implemented my craziness |
| 01:43.52 | ckknight | now to see if it works... |
| 01:44.27 | aen` | wtfz no fubar for buff1? |
| 01:44.46 | Gnarfoz | guess not. what for, anyway? ^^ |
| 01:45.12 | ckknight | hrm |
| 01:45.14 | ckknight | guess it works |
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| 01:49.46 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r38367 10Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0/ (29 files in 12 dirs): |
| 01:49.46 | CIA-22 | Threat-1.0 - wrap every single file in a function, to postpone execution until |
| 01:49.46 | CIA-22 | all files are loaded, at which point the revisions are checked, see if the |
| 01:49.46 | CIA-22 | library is out of date or not, if it is out of date, the functions are discarded |
| 01:49.46 | CIA-22 | and it is as if nothing happened (except a bit of memory to GC). If it is new, |
| 01:49.47 | CIA-22 | then the functions are run in order, and everything should be peachy. |
| 01:49.55 | ckknight | Antiarc: should be good now. |
| 01:49.59 | ckknight | albeit crazy |
| 01:50.15 | Antiarc | o.0 |
| 01:50.17 | Antiarc | That's insane! |
| 01:50.28 | ckknight | it works. |
| 01:50.32 | Antiarc | Haha |
| 01:50.42 | ckknight | hey, no blood no foul |
| 01:51.02 | hyperChipmunk | DBMs loadstringing everything works, too |
| 01:51.14 | ckknight | that's not loadstringing |
| 01:51.18 | ckknight | just wrapping in function() |
| 01:51.23 | hyperChipmunk | i'm justn saying |
| 01:51.24 | ckknight | which really isn't too heavy an operation |
| 01:51.32 | hyperChipmunk | just because it works don't mean it's right =p |
| 01:51.35 | ckknight | also, the memory is cleared right after, manually |
| 01:51.41 | ckknight | hyperChipmunk: do you have a better solution? |
| 01:51.45 | hyperChipmunk | nono |
| 01:52.07 | hyperChipmunk | just saying that your generalization doesn't necessarily hold |
| 01:52.11 | ckknight | true |
| 01:52.48 | CIA-22 | 03roartindon * r38368 10Assessment/Modules/ (8 files): |
| 01:52.48 | CIA-22 | Assessment |
| 01:52.48 | CIA-22 | - changed how default display sets store their description |
| 01:52.48 | CIA-22 | - Threat changed to use total fight data. Current fight data will try to snapshot threat at the end of a fight, so that historical battles can show a final overall threat view. |
| 01:53.27 | Kirkburn|afk | Question about SharedMedia - if all these are listed (http://www.wowace.com/wiki/SharedMedia_statusbar_textures), why can't I use them in game? |
| 01:53.49 | sbu | uhm, you can? |
| 01:53.51 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r38369 10Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0/ (20 files in 11 dirs): Threat-1.0 - set svn:keywords. |
| 01:54.09 | Kirkburn|afk | Ignore me .... seems like I don't have it installed .... |
| 01:54.16 | CIA-22 | 03tsigo * r38370 10BigWigs/TheEye/Kaelthas.lua: BigWigs: TheEye/Kaelthas: The mob is Infinity Blades, plural; add a cooldown bar for Thaladred's gaze. |
| 01:54.22 | ckknight | SharedMedia ≠SharedMediaLib |
| 01:54.33 | Kirkburn|afk | Damn, you wrote that quicker than me :( |
| 01:54.40 | Kirkburn|afk | Useful to know :P |
| 01:55.51 | aen` | does the buffalo dreamlayout let u move the timer to the top? |
| 01:56.49 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r38371 10Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0.lua: Threat-1.0 - remove :OwnsPet(owner, petName), as it is no longer used |
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| 01:59.24 | CIA-22 | 03kemayo * r38372 10Quartz/ (Flight/Flight.lua Quartz.toc): |
| 01:59.24 | CIA-22 | Quartz: |
| 01:59.24 | CIA-22 | - Flight: Add FuBar_ToFu to the optdeps to make it actually work. |
| 02:00.32 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r38373 10Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0/ (Threat-1.0.lua ThreatClassModuleCore.lua): Threat-1.0 - make the pet's combat be dictated by PET_ATTACK_START/STOP instead of PLAYER_REGEN_ENABLED/DISABLED |
| 02:00.52 | hyperChipmunk | i hope that's not the only thing you check |
| 02:01.02 | Antiarc | Mmm. I'm not getting any replies to REQUEST_CLIENT_INFO |
| 02:01.03 | hyperChipmunk | because that is by no means accurate |
| 02:01.37 | hyperChipmunk | the only thing you can guarantee from the PET_ATTACK events is that PET_ATTACK_START means the pet is in combat |
| 02:01.46 | ckknight | hyperChipmunk: what dictates whether or not a pet is in combat, then? |
| 02:01.53 | hyperChipmunk | nothing |
| 02:01.55 | durcyn | Magic. |
| 02:02.03 | hyperChipmunk | nothing simple, at least |
| 02:02.14 | ckknight | how do you recommend handling it, then? |
| 02:03.07 | hyperChipmunk | i though we went through this a few days ago; I think we decided we had to assume it was in-combat if PET_ATTACK happened, or the pet was the target of a mob, and then poll to find out when he leaves combat |
| 02:03.25 | Antiarc | ckknight: I was looking for PET_ATTACK_START to start combat and then using a scheduled evetn to check UnitAffectingCombat("pet") |
| 02:03.35 | ckknight | okay |
| 02:03.39 | ckknight | I'll work it out |
| 02:03.50 | sbu | mh - 10000 times / second i hope? just to be sure :o |
| 02:04.04 | hyperChipmunk | if the pet attacks, then the hunter enters combat |
| 02:04.17 | hyperChipmunk | however, if you stop the pet attacking, it is still in combat |
| 02:04.33 | hyperChipmunk | at this point, the hunter can FD and be out of combat, though the pet remains in-combat |
| 02:04.49 | CIA-22 | 03roartindon * r38374 10Assessment/Modules/ (UserInterface.lua UserInterfaceOptions.lua): |
| 02:04.49 | CIA-22 | Assessment |
| 02:04.49 | CIA-22 | - Display Sets now have a Favorites option, which allows players to enable/disable what is shown as a quick select |
| 02:05.11 | sbu | meh |
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| 02:05.24 | sbu | assessment, violation, recount... too much data %-) |
| 02:05.47 | hyperChipmunk | then the hunter can run away with his pet in tow and the pet can be taken out of combat after the mob leashes, but there is no event that corresponds to it leaving combat in that situation |
| 02:05.53 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r38375 10Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0/ThreatClassModuleCore.lua: Threat-1.0 - instead of relying on PET_ATTACK_STOP, check every 0.5 seconds after PET_ATTACK_START whether the pet is in combat or not. |
| 02:06.15 | hyperChipmunk | i wonder if you can check the blizzard combat icon |
| 02:06.20 | hyperChipmunk | :IsShown() or something |
| 02:06.20 | ckknight | take a look at the code if you want, it's rather clean |
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| 02:06.27 | durcyn | doesn't really matter though, pet isn't generating threat unless it's attacking |
| 02:06.28 | ckknight | hyperChipmunk: no, won't work if you have a custom UF |
| 02:06.32 | durcyn | what's it matter if it's otherwise in combat? |
| 02:06.34 | Kemayo | UnitInCombat('playerpet')? |
| 02:06.41 | ckknight | UnitAffectingCombat("pet") |
| 02:06.46 | hyperChipmunk | Kemayo: that would be polling |
| 02:06.58 | hyperChipmunk | which is what we're doing |
| 02:07.11 | hyperChipmunk | the PET_ATTACK is the only way the pet will haev any threat though |
| 02:07.24 | ckknight | I saw the previous implementation, Antiarc, didn't understand it then, but it was kinda ugly, imho |
| 02:07.30 | ckknight | for the pet in combat thing |
| 02:07.37 | CIA-22 | 03tsigo * r38376 10BigWigs/TheEye/Kaelthas.lua: BigWigs: TheEye/Kaelthas: Had a Gaze after 9 seconds. |
| 02:07.43 | hyperChipmunk | it can be in-combat with no PET_ATTACK (prox agro), but we don't really care until PET_ATTACK happens |
| 02:07.58 | hyperChipmunk | yea, that was the reason for the jacked-up implementation |
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| 02:08.30 | ckknight | it used a weird anon frame |
| 02:08.48 | Antiarc | ckknight: It was ugly |
| 02:08.55 | Antiarc | Should have been a scheduled repeating event |
| 02:09.02 | hyperChipmunk | ah |
| 02:09.12 | hyperChipmunk | i thought that's how you were implementing it |
| 02:09.19 | hyperChipmunk | but instead, you're just an idiot |
| 02:09.34 | ckknight | no? |
| 02:09.34 | hyperChipmunk | WWKD indeed |
| 02:09.38 | ckknight | WWKD? |
| 02:09.53 | ckknight | oh, thought you were calling me an idiot |
| 02:09.54 | ckknight | nvm |
| 02:10.10 | hyperChipmunk | when we came to the conclusion on how it had to be done, someone remarked 'WWKD (what would kenco do?)' |
| 02:10.11 | ckknight | ~pants |
| 02:10.27 | purl | Allows an individual to connect an internal LAN to the Internet.. URL: http://www.vu.union.edu/~pants/ |
| 02:10.30 | hyperChipmunk | oh you're an idiot, but for different reasons |
| 02:11.14 | ckknight | ~bitchslap hyperChipmunk |
| 02:11.19 | purl | ACTION beats the sh*t out of hyperChipmunk |
| 02:11.22 | hyperChipmunk | ~lart ckknight |
| 02:11.22 | purl | accelerates a free AOL cd to 50,000 rpm and lets ckknight feel it |
| 02:11.32 | hyperChipmunk | hoho spinfusor |
| 02:13.07 | Hjalte | Will the Violation_CombatLogRange addon extend combatlog range for all addons or just Violation? |
| 02:13.14 | Antiarc | All addons |
| 02:13.51 | Hjalte | So, if I've set some other combatlog ranges in eg bigwigs, it will overwrite these? |
| 02:14.55 | hyperChipmunk | i'd guess that behavior is undefined |
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| 02:17.50 | ckknight | Antiarc: so what now? |
| 02:18.04 | Antiarc | ckknight: ? |
| 02:18.09 | ckknight | what do I do? |
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| 02:18.25 | Antiarc | About the pet thing? |
| 02:18.32 | ckknight | no |
| 02:18.34 | ckknight | just in general |
| 02:18.39 | ckknight | the pet thing is fine |
| 02:19.01 | Antiarc | I'm tracking down a bug where people send a nil locale sometimes |
| 02:19.32 | Antiarc | And I'm going to implement a single mob threat wipe by using a table to store global threat offset values |
| 02:19.39 | ckknight | Antiarc: odd. If you didn't see, I made it so the OnCommHandler silently fails on mismanaged arguments |
| 02:19.53 | Antiarc | I did, and I noticed people weren't showing, so I threw a debug message in there |
| 02:21.04 | Antiarc | Soulshatter needs to be looked at, I know |
| 02:21.05 | Antiarc | There's also http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=6480.0 |
| 02:22.06 | ckknight | Antiarc: why does WIPE_ALL_THREAT require officer but MOB_RAID_THREAT_WIPE doesn't? |
| 02:23.04 | hyperChipmunk | because the latter probably is fired by the mob module |
| 02:23.22 | hyperChipmunk | whereas the former is a manual action by a raid officer |
| 02:23.57 | sbu | Antiarc: something seems to be really strange in omen targeting functions |
| 02:24.09 | sbu | but i cant reproduce it :o |
| 02:25.15 | sbu | just happens now and then that i have no threat bar at all with the correct mob targeted - retarget that mob and its all fine... |
| 02:26.07 | Antiarc | hyperChipmunk gots it. Open to abuse, but eh, what to do about that? |
| 02:26.16 | Antiarc | sbu: Hm. Ok. |
| 02:27.14 | Antiarc | There's definitely some kind of memory inflation in ThreatLib too |
| 02:27.22 | Antiarc | Up to 1.16mb after Gruul trash |
| 02:27.28 | Antiarc | GC knocked it down a few hundred k |
| 02:28.56 | Galka | [2007/06/03 22:21:38-974-x9]: Violation-1.0.38306\Violation.lua:1966: table index is nil |
| 02:28.57 | ckknight | hrm... |
| 02:32.47 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r38377 10Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0.lua: |
| 02:32.47 | CIA-22 | Threat-1.0 - make WIPE_ALL_THREAT call for yourself if you're the one requesting the wipe. |
| 02:32.47 | CIA-22 | - added a local function IsGroupOfficer(unit), which should be used instead of |
| 02:32.47 | CIA-22 | IsRaidLeader(unit) or IsRaidOfficer(unit), as it has a proper check for if |
| 02:32.47 | CIA-22 | you're in a party (where it'll check if you're leader), or if you're solo, it'll |
| 02:32.50 | CIA-22 | check if unit == "player". |
| 02:33.05 | ckknight | Antiarc: are you making a lot of strings anywhere? |
| 02:33.07 | CIA-22 | 03kemayo * r38378 10FuBar_QuestsFu/Blizz/Blizz.lua: |
| 02:33.07 | CIA-22 | FuBar_QuestsFu: |
| 02:33.07 | CIA-22 | - Blizz: Let questgivers be added to blizzard quest log. |
| 02:34.04 | sbu | Antiarc: and i guess the targeting issues i described few hours ago (tank's threat fine when tank is targeted / no tank threat when nightbane targeted) is also omen related? |
| 02:34.27 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r38379 10Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0.lua: Threat-1.0 - unimportant typo |
| 02:35.52 | Antiarc | sbu: Yes |
| 02:35.59 | Antiarc | ckknight: I don't think so, but I'll audit for that |
| 02:36.17 | Antiarc | 1.22 mb after Gruul |
| 02:36.34 | Antiarc | 1.10 mb after a forced GC |
| 02:36.41 | ckknight | that's not much. |
| 02:36.43 | Antiarc | Higher than I'd like. |
| 02:36.47 | ckknight | I suppose |
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| 02:37.04 | ckknight | Antiarc: could be cached mob names and such. |
| 02:37.12 | ckknight | the checksum caches |
| 02:37.17 | ckknight | and is cleared on GC |
| 02:37.40 | Antiarc | It shouldn't be that much. We had mobs with 3 names. |
| 02:37.56 | Antiarc | Rather, 3 unique mob names |
| 02:38.13 | Kemayo | Is this already fixed? Threat-1.0\Threat-1.0\ThreatClassModuleCore.lua:494: attempt to call method 'CancelThreatPublishPet' (a nil value) |
| 02:38.19 | Antiarc | Kemayo: Yes, update |
| 02:39.00 | Arrowmaster | ckknight: fyi i kept running into this odd bug where tablet stops being clickable or even showing any mouseover feedback, but theres no errors at all |
| 02:40.45 | ckknight | Arrowmaster: yea, has to do with fucked up framelevels |
| 02:40.59 | Antiarc | Omen's really pretty in a raid :D |
| 02:41.12 | Antiarc | It looks like a equalizer output or something |
| 02:42.06 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r38380 10Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0.lua: Threat-1.0 - make assert calls much more descriptive. |
| 02:42.30 | JoshBorke | SS or it didn't happen |
| 02:43.10 | sbu | Kemayo: hm - wow standard quest log has some display for daily quests - didnt see that in qeustsfu yet? |
| 02:43.23 | nekoh | Antiarc: http://ace.pastey.net/50114 i guess this should do as a fix for taunting (with warrs and druids) |
| 02:44.25 | Antiarc | nekoh: Thanks, I'll get it in |
| 02:44.39 | Arrowmaster | sbu: quests marked with y |
| 02:46.30 | nekoh | going to bed now, gnight |
| 02:48.40 | ZealotOnAStick | Antiarc: need a statusbar texture that looks like those little bouncing dotted lines. |
| 02:49.01 | Dotted | damnit :p |
| 02:49.03 | ckknight | http://dailypuppy.com/ |
| 02:50.13 | Diao | little bouncing dotted lines o_O |
| 02:50.24 | Dotted | grrr |
| 02:51.10 | hyperChipmunk | Antiarc: m/d seems to be working nicely again |
| 02:52.46 | ZealotOnAStick | http://kittenbreak.com |
| 02:55.17 | CIA-22 | 03fenlis * r38381 10StatLogicLib/StatLogic-1.0/StatLogic-1.0.lua: |
| 02:55.17 | CIA-22 | StatLogicLib: |
| 02:55.17 | CIA-22 | <PROTECTED> |
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| 02:59.29 | CIA-22 | 03antiarc * r38382 10Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0/ (4 files in 2 dirs): |
| 02:59.29 | CIA-22 | Threat-1.0: |
| 02:59.29 | CIA-22 | - Fix (I think) to invalid locale, added debug method for party revisions. |
| 02:59.29 | CIA-22 | - Changed taunt/growl to nekoh's versions |
| 03:06.08 | hyperChipmunk | after 20 versions, you'd think it'd be a bit better |
| 03:06.08 | Arrowmaster | 'introducing the new ktm!' 'hey whats this threat-1.0 thingy in here?' |
| 03:06.23 | ckknight | well, this time things are in the pipeline |
| 03:06.28 | ckknight | and you know what that means, right |
| 03:06.33 | ckknight | ejaculation |
| 03:06.36 | hyperChipmunk | they're in the pipeline |
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| 03:07.34 | hyperChipmunk | the intertubes are on the problem as we speak |
| 03:08.34 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r38383 10Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0.lua: Threat-1.0 - change the names of a few variables to make things clearer. |
| 03:17.17 | Jaxon | Omen will give threat for your current target, right? |
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| 03:19.45 | ckknight | yea |
| 03:19.51 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r38384 10Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0/ (4 files in 2 dirs): Threat-1.0 - turn a few functions created on-the-fly into upvalues |
| 03:23.49 | Antiarc | Oh, good catch on the client_info/request_client_info funcs |
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| 03:25.24 | aen` | hmm bartender keybindings are missing from the options |
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| 03:28.40 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r38385 10Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0/ (ClassModules/Pet.lua ThreatClassModuleCore.lua): Threat-1.0 - some optimizations |
| 03:30.06 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r38386 10Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0/ClassModules/Pet.lua: Threat-1.0 - another optimization |
| 03:31.24 | CIA-22 | 03kemayo * r38387 10SilverDragon/Core.lua: SilverDragon: Add an interactdistance check before noting coordinates. (I'll probably want to tweak values here.) |
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| 03:33.22 | NightHawkTheSane | haha.. http://www.overheardinnewyork.com/archives/010426.html |
| 03:33.46 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r38388 10Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0/ClassModules/ (9 files): Threat-1.0 - for class modules, opt-out early and don't create the code function at all, if the player is the wrong class. |
| 03:34.11 | kebinusan | Ok, so I look at my keybindings in WoW and my oRA keybindings get listed under another header and in fact skip the first 20 bindings even though I see no real difference between them and the bindings that actually show in bindings.xml, its kinda driving me nuts anyone have any ideas |
| 03:35.07 | ckknight | lol, NightHawkTheSane |
| 03:37.17 | Nargiddley | kebinusan, bliz started ignoring empty keybindings in 2.1 |
| 03:37.30 | aen` | anyone know how i get my bartender bindings to show up again |
| 03:37.36 | Nargiddley | adding a comment is enough to get them picked up again |
| 03:37.44 | kebinusan | Nargiddley: thanks much I'll do that |
| 03:37.46 | CIA-22 | 03kemayo * r38389 10SilverDragon/Core.lua: SilverDragon: Add a cache for that last commit. |
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| 03:38.35 | Antiarc | ckknight: We should poll the players class every couple of seconds |
| 03:38.38 | Antiarc | To make sure it doesn't change |
| 03:38.56 | ckknight | lol. |
| 03:39.06 | ckknight | you gotta be tricky about those things |
| 03:39.21 | ckknight | I mean, what if the player relogged really fast, I mean, too fast for Threat-1.0 to notice |
| 03:39.30 | CIA-22 | 03antiarc * r38390 10Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0/ClassModules/Warlock.lua: Threat-1.0: Fix a typo |
| 03:40.10 | kakas | hey, i have a problem after last patch i can't see hp valus on ag_unitframes |
| 03:40.30 | ckknight | I blame gnomes |
| 03:40.51 | CIA-22 | 03antiarc * r38391 10Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0/ClassModules/Warlock.lua: Threat-1.0: Fix another warlock module typo. |
| 03:41.28 | CIA-22 | 03kemayo * r38392 10SilverDragon/Core.lua: SilverDragon: Found a rare to test distances on... thus fixing compare-number-to-nil error! |
| 03:43.35 | durcyn | ~seen nymbia |
| 03:49.19 | purl | nymbia is currently on #wowi-lounge (5h 33m 23s) #wowace (5h 33m 23s). Has said a total of 1 messages. Is idling for 3h 24m 8s, last said: 'ours was up til the server crashed yesterday'. |
| 03:49.20 | ZealotOnAStick | So, with all this optimization and clean up . . . is Threat/Omen close to release? |
| 03:49.20 | ckknight | release is a state of mind, man |
| 03:49.20 | Antiarc | There are bugs yet to fix |
| 03:49.20 | ckknight | also, I've been optimizing since day one. |
| 03:49.20 | Antiarc | But it's getting close. |
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| 03:49.21 | ckknight | I just do an audit every so often, see more things I can optimize and such |
| 03:49.21 | ckknight | and optimize it |
| 03:49.21 | ckknight | and we all win |
| 03:49.21 | ckknight | except Kenco |
| 03:49.21 | ZealotOnAStick | yes, ckknight, but release for me = good enough to unleash it fully upon the guild and not have major compatability breaks. |
| 03:49.21 | ckknight | no, not yet |
| 03:49.21 | ckknight | I broke it today |
| 03:49.22 | ckknight | backwards-incompatible comm change |
| 03:49.22 | CIA-22 | 03kebinusan * r38393 10oRA2/Bindings.xml: oRA2: Silly 2.1 change prevents empty bindings from showing. Lets make them non-empty. |
| 03:49.23 | ckknight | might happen again |
| 03:49.23 | Antiarc | Ok, I can increase Threat's usage by just stance-swapping out of combat |
| 03:49.23 | Antiarc | So somewhere in the buffs, likely. |
| 03:49.24 | aen` | is bartender broken? |
| 03:49.24 | aen` | b/c im not getting a keybinding list |
| 03:49.25 | kebinusan | aen update bartender |
| 03:49.27 | aen` | i did |
| 03:49.27 | Thrae | Stable releases should be tagged, in my opinion. |
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| 03:49.27 | aen` | also bartender apparently doesnt keep sv's b/c when i updated i lost all my settings |
| 03:49.28 | kebinusan | I see my key bindings just peachy in bt3 |
| 03:49.28 | aen` | under options? |
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| 03:55.17 | Antiarc | Ok, something in the transactions is leaking |
| 03:55.34 | kebinusan | wow lotsa npc modules now |
| 03:57.00 | Antiarc | Mostly undone though ;) |
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| 03:59.22 | NightHawkTheSane | hmm, there any good mods like super inspect out, that give you a summary of your target's stats? or does super inspect still work well? |
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| 03:59.39 | Jaxon | I still use SuperInspect |
| 03:59.48 | KarlThePagan | does anyone know what's up with Sanity2? |
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| 04:00.03 | Jaxon | KarlThePagan: Antiarc is too busy making Threat work to fix it. |
| 04:00.13 | KarlThePagan | ah |
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| 04:00.31 | KarlThePagan | perhaps it should be rolled back & branched |
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| 04:01.11 | Antiarc | KarlThePagan: Patches are accepted! :) |
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| 04:12.52 | KarlThePagan | Antiarc, yea it vexes me enough that I might |
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| 04:15.34 | NightHawkTheSane | WOOO |
| 04:15.37 | NightHawkTheSane | finally got zuluhed the whacked done :D |
| 04:16.26 | bigzero | what's a good replacement for CT_MailMod?? |
| 04:16.45 | KarlThePagan | bulkmail perhaps |
| 04:16.47 | KarlThePagan | i should try it |
| 04:17.21 | bigzero | one thing I didn't like about bulkmail is that it doesn't gray out the items that you already have put on the list to mail |
| 04:17.35 | bigzero | tried potal, but I couldn't find a mass mail function |
| 04:18.16 | bigzero | postal* |
| 04:18.34 | NightHawkTheSane | postals only mass-mail function is alt-click to send |
| 04:18.38 | bigzero | I either don't know how to work postman or the only feature it has is autosend on alt+click |
| 04:19.09 | bigzero | NightHawkTheSane, :-(...no good |
| 04:19.32 | hyperChipmunk | bigzero: it used to do that; i can make it do so again, but it requires using EnumerateFrames and isn't possible to make totally reliable across all bag addons |
| 04:19.50 | bigzero | hyperChipmunk, which one are you refering? |
| 04:19.53 | hyperChipmunk | so i decided to drop it |
| 04:19.55 | hyperChipmunk | BulkMail |
| 04:20.07 | hyperChipmunk | it was a lot of hassle to code in |
| 04:21.01 | bigzero | hyperChipmunk, oh, really? hmmm |
| 04:21.01 | hyperChipmunk | and didn't add any extra information |
| 04:21.01 | bigzero | very nice feature imo |
| 04:21.01 | hyperChipmunk | 2 runecloth is 2 runecloth, regardless of what slot it comes from |
| 04:21.01 | bigzero | I often misclick and miss some items, with CT_MailMod you can see if you miss something |
| 04:21.18 | Kemayo | That's where the auto-sending comes in. :D |
| 04:26.17 | NightHawkTheSane | hyperChipmunk: the advantage is if you're sending two stacks of 20 runecloth to someone, it's nice to know which stack you already added so you can click the other one ;) |
| 04:26.17 | bigzero | i would not trust myself with autosend |
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| 04:26.18 | NightHawkTheSane | it's minor, and i can certainly live without it, but it does have its uses. |
| 04:26.18 | bigzero | misclick and oops, you just mailed a stack of flasks instead of pots |
| 04:26.18 | NightHawkTheSane | Also, anyone know if i can collect the stuff for netherwing turnins (crystals, flayer hides etc) without having the quest? |
| 04:26.19 | bigzero | hyperChipmunk, can't you make it so you can enable or disable the shading? |
| 04:26.19 | hyperChipmunk | bigzero: bulkmail gives you the option to do both |
| 04:26.19 | hyperChipmunk | you get a nice list if you altclick, which you can look over before sending, or you can ctrl-shift-click to send instantly |
| 04:26.19 | bigzero | hyperChipmunk, yeah I saw it and I liked it...but I miss the shading...a lot |
| 04:26.19 | bigzero | i think you should put it back in :-) |
| 04:26.20 | hyperChipmunk | bigzero: I'll look into it; however, as i said, there's no way to know for sure, since there's no unique field that a container frame must have and no others do |
| 04:26.21 | bigzero | or if you're lazy I can put it in and upload to a branch |
| 04:26.21 | CIA-22 | 03roartindon * r38394 10Assessment/ (5 files in 2 dirs): |
| 04:26.21 | CIA-22 | Assessment |
| 04:26.21 | CIA-22 | - Rolled ClassColor module into GroupMembers. |
| 04:26.21 | CIA-22 | - Selecting a new display set will close the dewdrop window |
| 04:26.22 | CIA-22 | - TODO: Figure out why window resizing is borked after clicking anywhere else in the window first |
| 04:26.22 | hyperChipmunk | i can look at it tomorrow, but if you want to take a shot at it, you're welcome to fiddle and submit a patch |
| 04:26.22 | CIA-22 | 03antiarc * r38395 10Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0/ThreatClassModuleCore.lua: Threat-1.0: Optimized (and I think fixed?) periodic spell transaction committing. |
| 04:26.22 | bigzero | alright, I'll see what I can cme up with |
| 04:26.22 | bigzero | so you're saying CT_MailMod shading doesn't work with all bags either? |
| 04:26.22 | ckknight | Antiarc: what's the purpose of the whole transaction thing? |
| 04:26.22 | Antiarc | ckknight: To catch spells that don't have a "yeah, I landed" message |
| 04:26.22 | hyperChipmunk | you can check the original bulkmail for inspiration, though it won't be something you can just plop in, since the program flow has changed somewhat in BM2 |
| 04:26.30 | Antiarc | For example: Sunder past 5 stacks doesn't send an event if it lands |
| 04:26.30 | Antiarc | Only if it doesn't |
| 04:26.31 | ckknight | hrm |
| 04:26.41 | hyperChipmunk | bigzero: I dunno; it was a long time ago that i put it in, and it was the best i could do at the time |
| 04:26.41 | Antiarc | So I start a transaction when you sunder, roll back if a non-hit is registered, commit after 0.5 sec otherwise |
| 04:26.45 | Antiarc | It's ugly, but it works. |
| 04:26.51 | ckknight | makes sense |
| 04:26.52 | hyperChipmunk | it's certainly possible that a better solution exists |
| 04:26.58 | ckknight | but I'd do 0.2 + Latency |
| 04:27.00 | bigzero | hyperChipmunk, alright, i'll look into it |
| 04:27.05 | hyperChipmunk | in fact, I'm pretty sure there is =P |
| 04:27.09 | ckknight | maybe |
| 04:27.12 | ckknight | or actually |
| 04:27.16 | Antiarc | If you can find one, I'm open to it |
| 04:27.21 | hyperChipmunk | I'll be the first to admit my code is of teh blowz |
| 04:27.23 | ckknight | max(0.5, 0.2 + Latency) |
| 04:27.33 | Antiarc | Mmm, good point. |
| 04:27.59 | ckknight | in case people are down under |
| 04:27.59 | hyperChipmunk | and frankly, i really liked the feature myself =P |
| 04:28.23 | hyperChipmunk | i didn't like taking it out, but it was really crufty |
| 04:28.34 | hyperChipmunk | and i couldn't figure out how to make it nicer |
| 04:28.52 | Antiarc | Should probably update latency with a scheduled event. |
| 04:28.57 | Antiarc | Maybe once every 5 sec? |
| 04:29.29 | bigzero | hyperChipmunk, hey, what about open all, open selected, and return selected buttons? |
| 04:29.34 | CIA-22 | 03antiarc * r38396 10Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0/ThreatClassModuleCore.lua: Threat-1.0: Debug messages = awesome. Again. |
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| 04:29.57 | hyperChipmunk | bigzero: BulkMail is for sending mail; ExpressMail handles receiving |
| 04:30.28 | bigzero | hyperChipmunk, both by you? |
| 04:30.37 | ckknight | Antiarc: I'd say every 15 |
| 04:30.40 | hyperChipmunk | ExpressMail is by Tekkub |
| 04:30.45 | Thrae | Bulkmail is the pitcher, ExpressMail is the catcher. |
| 04:30.52 | ckknight | not like it should be changing often anyway |
| 04:30.53 | hyperChipmunk | i think it's in his googlecode repo now |
| 04:31.37 | Kemayo | It is: http://tekkub-wow.googlecode.com/svn/trunk/ExpressMail |
| 04:31.43 | Thrae | Is BulkMail still all Ace/Ace2 hybridity? |
| 04:31.55 | bigzero | hyperChipmunk, yeah, I can't find it on wowace...did he like leave wowace community? |
| 04:31.57 | Kemayo | Thrae: Nope. Hasn't been for at least six months now. |
| 04:32.11 | Thrae | Ah. |
| 04:32.11 | hyperChipmunk | Thrae: wtf |
| 04:32.17 | hyperChipmunk | dude |
| 04:32.20 | Antiarc | ckknight: I'm just going to test latency when you activate the event, since that only happens when you enter combat |
| 04:32.22 | bigzero | hyperChipmunk, lol |
| 04:32.22 | hyperChipmunk | it's all manner of spiffy now |
| 04:32.33 | Thrae | Well, I don't use a lot of Ace2 addons anymore. |
| 04:32.51 | kaiden | blasphemy |
| 04:33.00 | kaiden | hang Thrae and TinyTip too! |
| 04:33.06 | bigzero | Thrae, why not? |
| 04:33.54 | Thrae | Why should I? |
| 04:34.22 | bigzero | hyperChipmunk, since it's not that much of an addition, would you consider adding those buttons to BulkMail? |
| 04:34.50 | bigzero | hyperChipmunk, i could code them up if you don't want to do it yourslef |
| 04:35.02 | hyperChipmunk | i've always resisted doing so; imo they're two different functions |
| 04:35.13 | hyperChipmunk | but with expressmail out of the repo now, so many are complaining |
| 04:35.15 | ckknight | Antiarc: fair enough |
| 04:35.19 | hyperChipmunk | so i've been considering it |
| 04:35.33 | Thrae | If there's an Ace2 addon that's slimmer then its alternatives and has all the features I want, then I'll use it. I just haven't found a lot of Ace2 addons which encompass that. |
| 04:35.42 | NightHawkTheSane | hyperChipmunk: tell them to suck it. |
| 04:35.44 | hyperChipmunk | if you'd like to add it, put it in a separate file |
| 04:35.44 | bigzero | hyperChipmunk, yeah, I think you should. 1 nice md for handling mail |
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| 04:36.05 | ckknight | I like Ace2 cause all the stuff is easy to download :-P |
| 04:36.16 | kaiden | i agree with ckknight ;) |
| 04:36.24 | hyperChipmunk | inbox.lua or something |
| 04:36.30 | bigzero | hyperChipmunk, ok, I'll see what I can do |
| 04:36.34 | kaiden | in fact, every single addon i use is available from the files.wowace.com server |
| 04:36.44 | Thrae | A lot of other developers use SVN...like Google Code. |
| 04:36.57 | Tekkub | funny cause I update so rarely, you don't have to download :P |
| 04:36.59 | hyperChipmunk | basically, Thrae says we suck at coding |
| 04:37.25 | Tekkub | and you can get email notifications of my updates :P |
| 04:37.29 | Thrae | Yeah. How dare you all not conform to my personal preferences in addons. |
| 04:37.40 | Thrae | You do not please the almighty Thrae! |
| 04:37.48 | Tekkub | hC, he's not saying all, just you |
| 04:37.55 | Tekkub | and kergoth |
| 04:38.31 | Thrae | I think I'm still using an Ace2 mail mod. |
| 04:39.21 | hyperChipmunk | to be fair, though, i say it all the time |
| 04:39.29 | bigzero | Tekkub, is your whole addon like 20 lines of code or is firefox not showing it all? |
| 04:39.36 | hyperChipmunk | it's 20 lines |
| 04:39.44 | bigzero | hehe |
| 04:39.45 | Tekkub | there's a reason it's not Aced |
| 04:39.58 | NightHawkTheSane | ^^ |
| 04:39.58 | Kemayo | It was aced at one point, wasn't it? |
| 04:40.01 | CIA-22 | 03antiarc * r38397 10Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0/ThreatClassModuleCore.lua: Threat-1.0: Dynamic commit period = (latency at combat start) / 1000 + 0.2 sec |
| 04:40.11 | Thrae | Some things, Tekkub likes small. Otherwise, the bigger the better. |
| 04:40.13 | hyperChipmunk | that's why it's not part of bulkmail |
| 04:40.15 | Tekkub | no, it was just here on the svn |
| 04:40.25 | Kemayo | Ah, okay. |
| 04:41.21 | Thrae | I could make a simple PHP website which links all the SVNs and shows the date of the latest update to each. |
| 04:41.22 | hyperChipmunk | it would be foolish to have people download all of bulkmail for something that small |
| 04:41.28 | bigzero | i don't see any code for get all mail functionality...is that not supported? |
| 04:41.45 | Tekkub | no |
| 04:41.55 | Tekkub | shift-click-click-click-click-click-click-click |
| 04:41.57 | Tekkub | done |
| 04:42.03 | bigzero | :-( |
| 04:42.14 | Tekkub | well, take into account nasty ass mail server lag... |
| 04:42.23 | bigzero | i like click...go get food...come back and go to ah |
| 04:42.25 | Tekkub | shift-click-pause-click-pause-click-pause-click-pause-click-pause-click- |
| 04:42.27 | hyperChipmunk | if you've got so much mail that you routinely need an open-all, you should be using a specialized addon for that anyway |
| 04:42.40 | Thrae | Tekkub has trained fingers. |
| 04:43.37 | NightHawkTheSane | hyperChipmunk: some people could arguably say that an addon who's sole purpose is to enhance opening mail is just such a specialized mod ;) |
| 04:44.00 | bigzero | how much more specialized could you get? |
| 04:44.13 | Thrae | Specialized mods are good. Usually code sharing is not really required. |
| 04:44.17 | Antiarc | So I went AFK to get dinner |
| 04:44.19 | Antiarc | And I came back |
| 04:44.25 | Antiarc | And KTM's at 32s of CPU time |
| 04:44.37 | bigzero | how long was your dinner? |
| 04:44.38 | Antiarc | Threat? 83ms, and another 310ms for Omen |
| 04:44.39 | Antiarc | :V |
| 04:44.49 | Antiarc | Well, to get dinner from the guy at the door |
| 04:44.52 | Antiarc | Chinese = mmm |
| 04:44.53 | Thrae | Tekkub: Can ExpressMail utilize your load manager? |
| 04:44.58 | NightHawkTheSane | His dinner was about 30s |
| 04:45.07 | NightHawkTheSane | do THAT math :P |
| 04:45.07 | Tekkub | need to set it up to |
| 04:45.07 | bigzero | hehe |
| 04:45.14 | Tekkub | been meaning to |
| 04:45.34 | Thrae | I'll nag you after I finish my own projects. I'm farther behind then you. |
| 04:45.40 | Tekkub | [Evanor] I'm on wwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww |
| 04:45.45 | Tekkub | [Evanor] Damnit |
| 04:45.51 | Tekkub | [Evanor] I died |
| 04:46.01 | hyperChipmunk | ehehe |
| 04:46.08 | bigzero | lol |
| 04:46.11 | NightHawkTheSane | man, i do that so much >.> |
| 04:46.21 | Thrae | I just hit ESC ;) |
| 04:46.24 | NightHawkTheSane | You guys have no idea how much my irc input box is just filled with "wwwwsssddddd11111111111" |
| 04:46.27 | Tekkub | damn WASDFers |
| 04:46.36 | Antiarc | I get /rl in my IRC box a lot |
| 04:46.37 | hyperChipmunk | yea, same here |
| 04:46.49 | hyperChipmunk | except it's dvorak "..............ooooaaeeee" |
| 04:46.49 | Thrae | Tekkub always keeps one hand free, only using the mouse? |
| 04:47.06 | NightHawkTheSane | you type dvorak? crazy bastard |
| 04:47.07 | Tekkub | n52 |
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| 04:47.17 | Tekkub | and yes, dvor here too |
| 04:47.23 | NightHawkTheSane | crazy bastards |
| 04:47.25 | Tekkub | ',.pyfgcrl/=\ |
| 04:47.36 | kebinusan | Is there a particular reason the aggro gain bar would be above your character when soloing |
| 04:47.53 | NightHawkTheSane | because to pull agro from you, someone needs more agro than you? |
| 04:47.55 | kebinusan | its not a big deal I havent been able to test it in a party yet |
| 04:48.31 | ulic | just to compare, I think KTM's is ALWAYS on top. |
| 04:48.57 | kebinusan | Ive never used ktm, but I guess it makes sense, I would jsut expect the person with aggro on top |
| 04:49.07 | Antiarc | kebinusan: Omen's going to be hidden while solo |
| 04:49.12 | kebinusan | ah ok |
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| 04:49.28 | Jaxon | Antiarc: I'm finding it handy for solo farming with my pet |
| 04:49.30 | kebinusan | Ive never used a threat meter before, so Im just kinda poking around with it |
| 04:49.34 | Antiarc | Pet ~= solo |
| 04:50.11 | kebinusan | oh yeah i am a warlock |
| 04:50.15 | kebinusan | guess I could test with my pet |
| 04:51.11 | ulic | kebinusan: basically it's the representation of how much threat one would have to generate to take agro from the current person |
| 04:51.24 | ulic | so it should always be 10% above the person on the top of the list |
| 04:52.07 | NightHawkTheSane | well, 10% for melee, 30% for ranged. >.> |
| 04:52.10 | hyperChipmunk | although it's always the width of the bar, so one could argue that it isn't necessary |
| 04:52.16 | hyperChipmunk | except to display numbers, i suppose |
| 04:52.41 | hyperChipmunk | but i'd just prefer it to be implicit that if I reach the full width of the bar, then i have agro |
| 04:52.50 | Antiarc | That's not true though |
| 04:52.59 | Jaxon | The full width would be the threat of the top person |
| 04:53.00 | Antiarc | Take a fight like Aran |
| 04:53.00 | Jaxon | THen |
| 04:53.02 | hyperChipmunk | the red bar is always full |
| 04:53.06 | Antiarc | Not always |
| 04:53.09 | Antiarc | You can have 100x more threat than anyone else and not have aggro |
| 04:53.17 | hyperChipmunk | i don't fight aran |
| 04:53.32 | Antiarc | Netherspite is another |
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| 04:54.07 | hyperChipmunk | ,,,i don't know who either of those even are |
| 04:54.24 | Antiarc | Karazhan mobs |
| 04:54.37 | Antiarc | Both are fights that don't take traditional threat into account |
| 04:54.54 | Antiarc | So I could double the tank on threat on Netherspite and he'd still have aggro |
| 04:55.27 | hyperChipmunk | yea, i'd modify my local copy to do it |
| 04:55.30 | NightHawkTheSane | course, on either of those, a threat meter in general isn't precisely useful, so |
| 04:55.41 | hyperChipmunk | because i don't fight any of those mobs |
| 04:56.18 | hyperChipmunk | or any such mob that would make any difference |
| 04:58.18 | CIA-22 | 03kemayo * r38398 10OpenAll/ (. OpenAll.lua OpenAll.toc): |
| 04:58.18 | CIA-22 | OpenAll: |
| 04:58.18 | CIA-22 | -Initial import. |
| 04:58.18 | CIA-22 | -Oh-so-simple addon to open all mail in your inbox. Lightly tested. |
| 04:58.26 | Kemayo | It's shorter than ExpressMail. Tekkub, you're going to have to tighten up your code! |
| 04:58.28 | hyperChipmunk | Kemayo: =) |
| 04:58.55 | NightHawkTheSane | lol |
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| 04:59.48 | hyperChipmunk | tempted to just cat that to expressmail and throw it in a file in bulkmail to shut ppl up |
| 05:00.18 | Saint-N | hyperChipmunk: my mom says she wants her dildos back |
| 05:00.18 | hyperChipmunk | /eye |
| 05:00.21 | Saint-N | mom |
| 05:00.36 | Saint-N | err i mean hi there! |
| 05:00.54 | *** kick/#wowace [Saint-N!n=staharaj@d14-69-214-77.try.wideopenwest.com] by hyperChipmunk (say hi to your mom for me, too) |
| 05:00.55 | *** join/#wowace Saint-N (n=saint-n@pool-70-18-198-82.ny325.east.verizon.net) |
| 05:01.10 | Thrae | hyperChipmunk: "eye" is Old English for "Yes". |
| 05:01.13 | *** join/#wowace Next96 (i=NEXT96@121.129.140.61) |
| 05:01.13 | NightHawkTheSane | so... does that mean you're not going to give them back? |
| 05:01.16 | *** join/#wowace Unrealii (i=NEXT96@121.129.140.61) |
| 05:01.17 | Thrae | Alternate to "aye" |
| 05:01.44 | Antiarc | Definitely a leak somewhere. I'm maintaining a count, ++ on new/newHash/newSet, -- + print on del, and the count is steadily rising. |
| 05:01.48 | *** join/#wowace Atriace (n=atriace@177.71.118.70.cfl.res.rr.com) |
| 05:01.58 | Saint-N | it was an implied "you have them" |
| 05:05.27 | haarm | Antiarc, that last statement confused me somewhat |
| 05:05.58 | ckknight | I understood it |
| 05:06.04 | NightHawkTheSane | made sense to me |
| 05:06.13 | ckknight | Antiarc: hrm. I tend to do a print(debugstack()) on the new creations |
| 05:06.21 | haarm | i didn't read anything else, just that statement ;x |
| 05:06.33 | haarm | *scrolls up* |
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| 05:08.10 | Antiarc | ckknight: That's what I'm doing now |
| 05:09.17 | Antiarc | It's nice to be using managed tables, though |
| 05:09.20 | Antiarc | Makes tracking this down easier |
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| 05:14.36 | bigzero | Kemayo, hehe, nice job...now throw all 3 together and it will be superb imo |
| 05:14.52 | Antiarc | Got it. |
| 05:15.39 | bigzero | downloading 3 mods to handle mail seems like an overkill to me |
| 05:16.20 | ckknight | Antiarc: where? |
| 05:16.26 | theoddone33 | so what's aggro gain in omen mean? |
| 05:16.37 | theoddone33 | wait wait |
| 05:16.39 | theoddone33 | I figured it out |
| 05:16.46 | kebinusan | hehe "Dude, I'd hit that so hard whoever could pull me out would become the King of England" |
| 05:16.55 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r38399 10Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0.lua: Threat-1.0 - make MOB_NAME_TRANSLATION_REPLY use managed tables |
| 05:17.06 | kebinusan | this site is kinda funny |
| 05:17.34 | CIA-22 | 03antiarc * r38400 10Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0/ (Threat-1.0.lua ThreatClassModuleCore.lua): Threat-1.0: Fixed a missed table deallocation in :PublishThreat (!) |
| 05:18.02 | Kemayo | kebinusan: Which site is that? |
| 05:18.15 | kebinusan | http://www.overheardinnewyork.com |
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| 05:20.22 | Neebler | http://www.jonmiles.co.uk/fingerjig.php |
| 05:20.24 | Neebler | weeee |
| 05:20.46 | ckknight | Antiarc: your change to Threat-1.0.lua was pointless. |
| 05:20.52 | Antiarc | ckknight: How so? |
| 05:20.55 | ckknight | well, less efficient |
| 05:21.02 | Antiarc | It stopped my memory leakage |
| 05:21.16 | ckknight | that's ...impossible |
| 05:21.22 | Antiarc | Does SendCommMessage deallocate tables when it's done with 'em? |
| 05:21.40 | ckknight | ah, dammit |
| 05:21.47 | ckknight | put it in the wrong place. |
| 05:21.50 | Antiarc | Heh |
| 05:22.08 | ckknight | k, that's what I meant v--- |
| 05:22.10 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r38401 10Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0.lua: Threat-1.0 - optimization |
| 05:22.55 | ZealotOnAStick | purl, botmail for vhaar: vhaarr, check the NRT thread on the Nihilum boards, there's an issue with the CTRT XML export date format. |
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| 05:23.05 | ZealotOnAStick | crap. |
| 05:23.11 | ZealotOnAStick | purl, botmail for vhaarr: vhaarr, check the NRT thread on the Nihilum boards, there's an issue with the CTRT XML export date format. |
| 05:23.18 | ZealotOnAStick | would help if I spelled it right, eh? |
| 05:24.05 | Antiarc | Mmm. Bartender is eating a healthy chunk of CPU |
| 05:26.45 | CIA-22 | 03kergoth * r38402 10kEnergy/kEnergy.toc: kEnergy: drop S&D as a LoadManager, as it acts up. Add support for ForkliftGnome as a LoadManager. |
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| 05:36.57 | bigzero | anyone know a good ace replacement for MI2? and SolaceTargetFrame |
| 05:38.00 | Diao | mi2 has no replacement, closest is probably mh3 |
| 05:38.06 | Diao | but nothing replaces the drops/etc function of mi2 |
| 05:38.20 | Diao | what's solacetargetframe? |
| 05:43.13 | CIA-22 | 03kemayo * r38403 10OpenAll/OpenAll.lua: |
| 05:43.14 | CIA-22 | OpenAll: |
| 05:43.14 | CIA-22 | -Make work more reliably (darn asynchronous mail model). |
| 05:43.14 | CIA-22 | -Sadly, now longer than ExpressMail. |
| 05:43.43 | Kemayo | Mutter. |
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| 05:46.56 | hyperChipmunk | pwnd |
| 05:46.58 | hyperChipmunk | don't worry |
| 05:46.58 | hyperChipmunk | still shorter than bulkmail |
| 05:47.13 | hyperChipmunk | ...for now |
| 05:47.44 | sedatedChipmunk | i have no doubt that will change by morning! |
| 05:48.38 | CIA-22 | 03sayclub * r38404 10StatLogicLib/StatLogic-1.0/StatLogic-1.0.lua: StatLogicLib: koKR typo fix |
| 05:49.09 | *** part/#wowace Cyerie (n=chatzill@c-71-207-170-209.hsd1.al.comcast.net) |
| 05:54.05 | ckknight | Antiarc: does Threat-1.0 have a todo list or a wishlist? |
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| 05:56.58 | bigzero | Diao, solacetargetframe just allows you to see all the buffs/debuffs on the target |
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| 05:57.48 | ckknight | bigzero: Antagonist |
| 05:58.32 | Antiarc | ckknight: There's a todo.txt in the repo, but it's kinda out of date |
| 05:58.44 | bigzero | ckknight, danke |
| 05:58.57 | ckknight | yea it is |
| 05:59.12 | Antiarc | "internal" todo is to get individual target global offsets working so I can wipe raid threat on a single mob and then put that in an API for NPC modules, then get those fleshed out |
| 05:59.17 | Antiarc | Soulshatter needs a once-over |
| 05:59.23 | Antiarc | And I need to figure out Righteous Defense |
| 06:01.00 | ckknight | maybe I can mess with the structure |
| 06:01.23 | Antiarc | Oh, and I need to look at Shadowfiend |
| 06:01.28 | Antiarc | I think it's being credited to the priest |
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| 06:11.50 | CIA-22 | 03antiarc * r38405 10Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0.lua: Threat-1.0: :WipeRaidThreatOnMob(mob) seems to be working. Need to verify that all places that report threat are including global offsets; need to ensure offsets get wiped properly when you leave combat. |
| 06:13.30 | Diao | who's coding assessment :o |
| 06:14.03 | Diao | nm |
| 06:14.07 | Diao | found it |
| 06:14.24 | CIA-22 | 03antiarc * r38406 10Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0.lua: Threat-1.0: Really gotta stop committing debug messages. |
| 06:14.31 | Silviu- | :) |
| 06:14.59 | Silviu- | Note to self ? ;p |
| 06:15.43 | bigzero | ~seen Schelli |
| 06:16.47 | purl | i haven't seen 'schelli', bigzero |
| 06:16.47 | bigzero | purl's on vacation or ~seen is not supported anymore? |
| 06:17.02 | Silviu- | he is laggy i guess |
| 06:17.02 | Silviu- | ;) |
| 06:17.05 | bigzero | hehe |
| 06:17.07 | NightHawkTheSane | purls a laggy slut |
| 06:18.11 | Cyrez | Someone did a ~seen earlier today and it took it 6 minutes. |
| 06:18.29 | Diao | hm |
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| 06:19.18 | Cyrez | ZOMG, all bow to the buffbar king!!! ^^ |
| 06:20.15 | Cyrez | EBB 2.0b for the waffles. |
| 06:20.16 | Cyrez | <3 |
| 06:20.59 | Elkano | All hail the bandit king! |
| 06:22.34 | CIA-22 | 03antiarc * r38407 10Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0/ (9 files in 5 dirs): |
| 06:22.34 | CIA-22 | Threat-1.0: Really gotta stop committing debug messages.Threat-1.0: Changed |
| 06:22.34 | CIA-22 | existing NPC modules to use :WipeRaidThreatOnMob(); we should be able to wipe |
| 06:22.34 | CIA-22 | threat lists on specific mobs now. Expect bugs in those specific encounters, |
| 06:22.34 | CIA-22 | however. |
| 06:22.41 | Antiarc | Oops. |
| 06:27.16 | CIA-22 | 03hegarol * r38408 10AtlasLoot/ (Instances/burningcrusade.en.lua Reputation/rep.lua): |
| 06:27.16 | CIA-22 | AtlasLoot: |
| 06:27.17 | CIA-22 | - Loot improvements |
| 06:27.30 | Cyrez | Is there an addon that keeps and switches beteen multiple Enabled/Disabled configurations? |
| 06:27.40 | Diao | ACP? |
| 06:28.12 | Cyrez | ZOMGTY! <3 |
| 06:28.24 | Diao | mm waffle |
| 06:28.25 | Diao | # |
| 06:28.26 | Diao | :D |
| 06:29.52 | Silviu- | Antiarc, http://ace.pastey.net/50246 |
| 06:31.33 | Antiarc | Silviu-: Huh. Okay. |
| 06:32.06 | Silviu- | Is not loading anymore |
| 06:32.07 | Silviu- | :) |
| 06:34.03 | sedatedChipmunk | night guys; keep up the suck while i'm gone |
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| 06:37.39 | bigzero | ~seen Rabbit |
| 06:38.04 | purl | rabbit <n=rabbit@net.w0w0w.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #kde, 649d 7h 8m 2s ago, saying: '+in'. |
| 06:38.04 | NightHawkTheSane | we'll try, but no one sucks as much as you do. |
| 06:38.09 | sedatedChipmunk | bigzero: rabbit = vhaarr |
| 06:38.21 | bigzero | good to know :-) |
| 06:38.42 | sedatedChipmunk | he tries to hide |
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| 06:41.06 | bigzero | though it's nice to know that purl keeps track of things that happened almost 2 years ago |
| 06:41.28 | nevcairiel | hehe |
| 06:41.37 | bigzero | i wonder why it's so laggy... |
| 06:41.51 | NightHawkTheSane | people in some other channel are going ~~~~~~ |
| 06:41.54 | NightHawkTheSane | ~~~~~~ |
| 06:41.58 | purl | ACTION takes out a revolver and shoots nighthawkthesane in the head three times. |
| 06:42.04 | NightHawkTheSane | :D |
| 06:42.22 | NightHawkTheSane | ~~~~~~~ |
| 06:42.24 | purl | ACTION fires 3 more shots, as the first 3 didn't seem to have much effect. |
| 06:42.47 | Elkano | --~~~~ |
| 06:42.54 | bigzero | what other channels is purl in? it shows him only in wowace |
| 06:43.21 | nevcairiel | ~seen purl |
| 06:43.38 | purl | purl is currently on #casualti (2d 2h 21m 34s) #botpark (2d 2h 21m 34s) #linuxfund (2d 2h 21m 34s) #wowi-lounge (2d 2h 21m 34s) #edev (2d 2h 21m 34s) #fossfund (2d 2h 21m 34s) #hosernet (2d 2h 21m 34s) #norganna (2d 2h 21m 34s) #creativeforum (2d 2h 21m 34s) #ud (2d 2h 21m 34s) #dub ... |
| 06:43.38 | NightHawkTheSane | purl's probably set +i |
| 06:43.39 | Elkano | purl, stats |
| 06:43.39 | purl | Since Sat Jun 2 04:18:46 2007, there have been 5 modifications, 96 questions, 0 dunnos, 0 morons and 77 commands. I have been awake for 2d 2h 24m 53s this session, and currently reference 113053 factoids. I'm using about 18840 kB of memory. With 0 active forks. Process time user/system 7412.78/416.13 child 0.03/0.08 |
| 06:43.41 | NightHawkTheSane | so you can't see what channels it's in unless you're in it to |
| 06:44.26 | Silviu- | ... |
| 06:44.27 | Silviu- | Hehe |
| 06:44.32 | Silviu- | List continues :) |
| 06:44.41 | Diao | dunnos and morons huh |
| 06:45.07 | Elkano | could someone point this guy http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=108322041&sid=1 to http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=5467 ? |
| 06:45.19 | CIA-22 | 03antiarc * r38409 10Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0/ (3 files in 3 dirs): Threat-1.0: Fixed a few errors from the last commit. |
| 06:45.26 | NightHawkTheSane | Oy... i know american's geography is bad, ffs, come on.. http://www.thisisbroken.com/.shared/image.html?/photos/uncategorized/2007/05/17/lainak.jpg |
| 06:45.35 | CIA-22 | 03cryect * r38410 10Recount/ (5 files): Recount - Adds Config window though at the moment only allows setting of filters for whats shown (other filters aren't active yet). |
| 06:46.29 | omega | Cryect: what I miss the most from recount atm (dunno if it is planned, or might already be there) is a way to keep my personal stats, but reset everything else |
| 06:46.45 | Silviu- | Thank u Antiarc, working again ;p |
| 06:47.03 | Cryect | heh, not already there |
| 06:47.15 | Cryect | its something I like to add though controlled resetting of data |
| 06:47.21 | Antiarc | :) |
| 06:47.35 | Cryect | Antiarc so when you fixing the pet issues! |
| 06:47.43 | Cryect | or did you fix them tongiht while I was raiding :-p |
| 06:47.48 | Elkano | NightHawkTheSane: well, amerca and geography... http://www.paulduncan.org/files/cnn_iraq.jpg |
| 06:48.03 | Cryect | Haha |
| 06:48.05 | NightHawkTheSane | Elkano: lol |
| 06:48.13 | NightHawkTheSane | oh god, i hate this country. :P |
| 06:48.19 | bigzero | lol |
| 06:48.54 | nevcairiel | haha thats a classic |
| 06:48.56 | Cryect | Germany, Iraq whats teh difference |
| 06:49.01 | Elkano | NightHawkTheSane: they seem to fail more often ^^ http://www.budda.ch/privat/fun/img_pol/cnn.png |
| 06:49.19 | krka | Elkano: haha |
| 06:49.20 | Cryect | haha though that one isn't as amusing |
| 06:49.33 | Antiarc | Cryect: I think the pet issues are fixed |
| 06:49.34 | NightHawkTheSane | Elkano: >< |
| 06:49.38 | nevcairiel | nah only switzerland wrong |
| 06:49.38 | Elkano | Cryect: well, in Germany, we have a whole party of wannabe dictators... it's called CSU |
| 06:49.39 | nevcairiel | but hey |
| 06:49.39 | Antiarc | Have you had more pet issues? |
| 06:50.09 | Cryect | Well I updated before the raid today and everytime pets got created or died |
| 06:50.17 | Cryect | it would trigger some error related to the pet |
| 06:50.24 | krka | to be fair, iraq is kinda like germany in ... hmm.. no i've got nothing |
| 06:50.43 | Antiarc | That should be fixed, I hope |
| 06:50.55 | *** join/#wowace syeren (i=syeren@cpc3-oldh5-0-0-cust762.manc.cable.ntl.com) |
| 06:51.00 | krka | seriously, doesn't cnn have computerized maps they just zoom in on a location to show? |
| 06:51.01 | harl|away | yea.. fix germany.. good idea.. |
| 06:51.02 | Cryect | let me upgrade and test on my warlock |
| 06:51.06 | krka | do they manually enter locations? |
| 06:51.19 | Cryect | Prolly have some guy who thinks it would be a great joke |
| 06:51.23 | krka | "this here thingy must be switzerland i guess" |
| 06:51.44 | Elkano | another person to be pointed at the EBBs thread: http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=108203252&sid=1 -> http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=5467.0 |
| 06:51.51 | Cryect | Switzerland became a mighty empire and started taking over countries when no one was looking |
| 06:52.07 | yacoob | with their legions of violet cows? |
| 06:52.11 | Cryect | yes! |
| 06:52.16 | NightHawkTheSane | Cryect: they could totally get away with it two. |
| 06:52.22 | NightHawkTheSane | I mean, they've got all the money, as well |
| 06:52.50 | Cryect | Though I thought those were actually german :-p though Kraft owns them now a days so whatever |
| 06:53.05 | yacoob | if they bring changes for good, I'm ready for conquering. |
| 06:54.36 | NightHawkTheSane | meh, the only overlords i'm willing to acknowledge is google. |
| 06:54.57 | Elkano | church of google? ;) |
| 06:55.12 | NightHawkTheSane | well thats a bit much. |
| 06:55.29 | Cryect | Goology? |
| 06:55.44 | Cryect | I meant Googlogy |
| 06:56.10 | Elkano | http://www.thechurchofgoogle.org/ |
| 06:56.50 | Elkano | so, anyone willing to do me a favour by posting something in US forums? |
| 06:59.10 | CIA-22 | 03antiarc * r38411 10Omen/ (Omen.lua icon.blp): Omen: Added FuBar icon |
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| 07:04.30 | Antiarc | Can someone get a screenshot of the combat log for a cast of Binding Heal for me? |
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| 07:06.46 | Cryect | one second I shoul dhave one in my logs |
| 07:07.09 | Cryect | 1/28 22:36:30.535 Evyy's Binding Heal heals Evyy for 1920. |
| 07:07.09 | Cryect | 1/28 22:36:30.738 Evyy's Binding Heal heals Jider for 1747. |
| 07:07.59 | *** part/#wowace grenno1 (n=jdawg@user-38lm5go.cable.mindspring.com) |
| 07:11.17 | syeren | http://fabrikate.org/wow/WoWScrnShot_060407_080549.jpg |
| 07:11.20 | syeren | Screenshot for you :p |
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| 07:11.55 | Kalman| | Bah, syeren was faster. |
| 07:12.02 | kebinusan | wow a female dwarf priest |
| 07:12.06 | *** join/#wowace kbh (i=kbh@65.183.172.135) |
| 07:12.14 | kebinusan | endangered species |
| 07:12.51 | Punkie` | nah, female dwarf warriors are definately endangered |
| 07:13.18 | syeren | I'm yet to see one in my battleground :p |
| 07:13.31 | syeren | Know of like 5-7 Priests. |
| 07:13.32 | syeren | ;p |
| 07:13.51 | syeren | Infact, make that 4. |
| 07:13.57 | syeren | Myself, Syla, Hydra, and Kerry! |
| 07:14.01 | kebinusan | its all abou the female dwarf rogues |
| 07:14.11 | syeren | That heal was on a female Dwarf Rogue ;D |
| 07:14.19 | Kirkburn|afk | I think you have a keylogger on the forum |
| 07:14.35 | Kirkburn|afk | Ace 2 Dev Corner, WoW UI Designer thread |
| 07:15.08 | Kirkburn|afk | (he's been pasting it all across the EU forums, I haven't confirmed it as a keylogger though) |
| 07:15.34 | Punkie` | It must be, he's posted it in 2 areas of the forum |
| 07:15.39 | Kirkburn|afk | http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=6530.msg107913#new |
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| 07:18.21 | nevcairiel | Hm i downloaded it and my McAffee didnt pick it up |
| 07:18.30 | nevcairiel | wonder if i should try to execute it =P |
| 07:18.35 | Punkie` | McAfee sucks though |
| 07:18.40 | Elkano | well, still doesn't mean it isn't one ^^ |
| 07:18.41 | Antiarc | Thank you both |
| 07:18.44 | Antiarc | ckknight: ping |
| 07:19.05 | Punkie` | nevcairiel: http://virusscan.jotti.org/ |
| 07:20.52 | nevcairiel | site is busy :P |
| 07:22.06 | *** join/#wowace Cartas (n=Cartas@host86-139-32-207.range86-139.btcentralplus.com) |
| 07:23.31 | Punkie` | nevcairiel: Try this then http://www.kaspersky.com/scanforvirus |
| 07:23.37 | Punkie` | McAfee sucks btw :P |
| 07:25.25 | Stratisphere | old news to me |
| 07:25.26 | nevcairiel | ah Kirkburn|afk: you were right, its a trojan :p |
| 07:25.43 | Punkie` | Did kaspersky pick it up? :P |
| 07:25.51 | nevcairiel | nah that first page worked |
| 07:26.11 | nevcairiel | what would you recommend as virus scanner then? |
| 07:26.24 | Cryect | Punkie` kaspersky didn't pick it up :-p |
| 07:26.28 | nevcairiel | NOD32 seems to be quite good |
| 07:26.35 | Cryect | you can see what all the website detected it as |
| 07:26.38 | Cryect | http://virusscan.jotti.org/ |
| 07:26.42 | Cryect | shows the last thing scanned :-p |
| 07:27.12 | Fisker- | Registrant Name ................. wang ling |
| 07:27.12 | Fisker- | Registrant Organization ......... wang ling lin |
| 07:27.12 | Fisker- | Registrant Address .............. jiang su sheng wu xi shi xin yuan zhen hao |
| 07:27.14 | Fisker- | i lol'd |
| 07:27.21 | Punkie` | I use NOD32 anyway |
| 07:28.39 | Punkie` | anyway, i posted it was a keylogger |
| 07:28.45 | Punkie` | go confirm! |
| 07:29.15 | Antiarc | I use AntiVir |
| 07:29.15 | Fisker- | why confirm? |
| 07:29.17 | Antiarc | freeav.com |
| 07:29.23 | Fisker- | it's obvious faggotry |
| 07:29.27 | Fisker- | in any case |
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| 07:30.59 | Elkano | there's a thread in US UI forums, too |
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| 07:31.35 | ZealotOnAStick | posts gone, and he's banned. |
| 07:31.46 | ZealotOnAStick | Thanks Kirkburn. |
| 07:31.55 | Kirkburn|afk | np :) |
| 07:33.02 | ZealotOnAStick | Second time this guy has done it, too. |
| 07:33.14 | ZealotOnAStick | Has a previous ban about a month ago. |
| 07:33.31 | Cryect | Why wouldn't you just permaban them for a trojan >_> |
| 07:33.35 | Dustwhisper | to secure my gamesaccounts and what not |
| 07:33.39 | Dustwhisper | it's almost so i buy a private vmWare license |
| 07:33.44 | Dustwhisper | just to host my browsing inn |
| 07:33.45 | ZealotOnAStick | It was, no ban triggers were set. |
| 07:34.13 | Fisker- | i don't download malware |
| 07:34.15 | Fisker- | much easier |
| 07:34.19 | Dustwhisper | me neither |
| 07:34.20 | Dustwhisper | buuut |
| 07:34.30 | Dustwhisper | sometimes nasty 0day holes are discovered in browsers |
| 07:34.33 | Dustwhisper | and boom you are fucked |
| 07:34.57 | Fisker- | not really |
| 07:35.15 | Dustwhisper | yes really |
| 07:35.34 | Cyrez | Second time? Hunt him down and steal all his waffles. And poke him to death with sporks. |
| 07:35.36 | Fisker- | nahuh |
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| 07:35.44 | ZealotOnAStick | nymbia: Quartz. Flight depletion bar. kthxplz? |
| 07:35.50 | Cryect | why not just go through the routine of changing your passwords on a daily basis! |
| 07:35.59 | alkdjfalsdfjasdf | eeek |
| 07:36.04 | Dustwhisper | doesn't really help if you get rooted by a trojan or simular |
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| 07:36.47 | Fisker- | First, many hackers don't really discover the exploits before they're public anyways, secondly they can't infect people unless they visit their sites, or have access to sites, thirdly, you can always use another browser like Opera and Firefox if you're scared |
| 07:37.04 | Chum | well finally i found one :P' |
| 07:37.10 | Cryect | shouldn't use any known browser |
| 07:37.14 | Cryect | should write your own |
| 07:37.23 | Cryect | security through obscurity! |
| 07:37.25 | nevcairiel | yeah i havent really seen a exploitable flaw in firefox |
| 07:37.31 | Elkano | Fisker-: by kno there are also a lot of holes discovered in FF and Opera... |
| 07:37.45 | Fisker- | Yes of course |
| 07:37.46 | nevcairiel | most of it are memory loops to crash FF |
| 07:37.49 | nevcairiel | not infect your system |
| 07:37.50 | Chum | Fisker-- you sure can be exploited by security holes in windows/*nix |
| 07:37.54 | Fisker- | but 3 holes, all exploited, in 3 seperate browser on the same day? |
| 07:37.58 | Fisker- | not likely |
| 07:38.02 | Chum | without having to go to a website.. |
| 07:38.15 | Dustwhisper | a) When I actually spent some time writing trojans for fun (learning) there were a GAZILLION (well 2-3 very big) 0day exploit sites posting proof of concept etc, it's easy and fast including ready to use shellcode, b) Yes they can, subnet scans, IM Scams (eg pretending to be a friend on IM and sending "nice files") but sure the most likely scenario is visiting a supposedly nice site, c) Firefox have had zeroday exploits aswell not to mention |
| 07:38.16 | Chum | unless you are specifically talking about windows |
| 07:38.23 | Dustwhisper | on windows you had Bitmap/JPEG exploits where an image file could load shellcode |
| 07:38.31 | Dustwhisper | so all your arguments = Incorrect |
| 07:38.33 | Chum | yeah, heard about those Dust |
| 07:38.37 | kebinusan | just run linux, no one writes key loggers for that :-)\ |
| 07:38.39 | Elkano | well, sometimes exploits for win propaget via the browser so it's not the browser's fault |
| 07:38.52 | Fisker- | no, they're not incorrect |
| 07:38.54 | kebinusan | or buy a mac |
| 07:39.03 | Fisker- | as i have never been infected knowing it |
| 07:39.07 | nevcairiel | all that proof of concepts on 0day exploit sites are not discovered by them |
| 07:39.08 | Fisker- | _never_ |
| 07:39.23 | Dustwhisper | I wrote (For educational purposes) a trojan once, it loaded via a Kernel mode driver, was undetected by File scanning (it was hidden), it shut down any known AV/trojanscanner, it gave full access to streaming the persons webcams and files, |
| 07:39.25 | nevcairiel | generally a security company discovers it, and submits information to places like bugtraq |
| 07:39.26 | nevcairiel | or so |
| 07:39.29 | Dustwhisper | it's not like getting CDkeys and what not is hard |
| 07:39.31 | Fisker- | and almost all proof of concepts are posted _AFTER_ the companies have made their "Hey we got an exploit in our code" |
| 07:39.42 | Dustwhisper | not if you are on exploitsites for trojanwriters |
| 07:39.59 | Dustwhisper | which of course aren't as well known and open as eg bugtrack or securityfocus |
| 07:40.09 | CheshireCat | asdfjlaksjdf |
| 07:40.10 | nevcairiel | most exploits are NOT discoverd my those hackers, they generally are not smart enough to find that :P |
| 07:40.10 | CheshireCat | !!! |
| 07:40.47 | nevcairiel | there are big companys who get paid to discover that, and they submit to the company 1-2 weeks before releasing to bugtraq or anywhere |
| 07:40.48 | CheshireCat | a very common exploit I find when doing investigations on servers in our datacenter are horde exploits, |
| 07:40.54 | KarlThePagan | the few exploits not published certainly would not be openly shared |
| 07:41.03 | CIA-22 | 03antiarc * r38412 10Omen/icon.blp: Omen: New icon |
| 07:41.43 | Crache\__ | there are an assload of private exploits |
| 07:41.43 | Chum | i swear I wonder if I am in the right channel.. |
| 07:42.16 | Antiarc | Whatcha looking for, Chum? |
| 07:42.19 | Chum | anyone know the best SVN client for win? |
| 07:42.31 | Antiarc | TortoiseSVN |
| 07:42.32 | kebinusan | best is somewhat subjective |
| 07:42.32 | Antiarc | Hands down |
| 07:42.33 | nevcairiel | we all prefer tortoise i guess |
| 07:42.33 | NightHawkTheSane | yeah, svn. :P |
| 07:42.36 | Dustwhisper | you'd think |
| 07:42.36 | Chum | I want to update xloot.. |
| 07:42.44 | kebinusan | Tortoise is great tho |
| 07:42.47 | Chum | yeah thats the one I've heard of before Antiarc, k, i'll go grab it |
| 07:42.49 | Dustwhisper | there are several tools written to detect exploitable holes (buffer overflows and what not) |
| 07:42.49 | Elkano | Chum, maybe not the best but lots of people here use TortoiseSVN |
| 07:42.57 | Dustwhisper | not to mention that Microsoft Patches has made it very very easy to detect holes |
| 07:43.08 | Dustwhisper | (Diff files before and after patch to detect what was patched) |
| 07:43.10 | Elkano | while some still go for a basic commandline tool |
| 07:43.17 | NimbleRabit | is there any way to get flasks besides alchemists? |
| 07:43.21 | Chum | crap, took me awhile to actually type tortoise rofl |
| 07:43.23 | Dustwhisper | seeing as it takes ages before evne a large portion of systems have migrated to patches |
| 07:43.30 | Fisker- | and so what? |
| 07:43.30 | Chum | NimbleRabit- um, but them on the AH! |
| 07:43.41 | Fisker- | It doen't take a lot of time before i migrate to a patch |
| 07:43.46 | Fisker- | which is the exact point i'm making |
| 07:43.57 | KarlThePagan | depends if you're a msft partner, corporate customer etc |
| 07:44.02 | Fisker- | I don't get all this shit because i actually use my head |
| 07:44.14 | Dustwhisper | you never know |
| 07:44.14 | Fisker- | I don't wait a month for some critical patch to be applied |
| 07:44.35 | KarlThePagan | if you get it from windowsupdate you're months behide unfortunately |
| 07:44.46 | CIA-22 | 03antiarc * r38413 10Omen/ (icon.blp icon_off.blp): Omen: New new icon. |
| 07:45.00 | Fisker- | Depends on the severity of the exploit |
| 07:45.09 | Dustwhisper | I've worked as a sysadmin and programmer for quite some years now and sometimes you are unlucky and sometimes patches do more good than bad (hence why you normally test patches before rolling them out etc) |
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| 07:45.11 | KarlThePagan | well... weeks at best |
| 07:45.13 | Fisker- | Exploits are usually posted around the same times theyre fixed |
| 07:45.15 | Chum | wazzz Hjalte? |
| 07:45.22 | Fisker- | besides for the internal testing patches |
| 07:45.31 | Dustwhisper | not really true |
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| 07:45.44 | Dustwhisper | MS even managed to open holes they originally closed etc in the past |
| 07:45.46 | Hjalte | Good morning Chum |
| 07:45.54 | Antiarc | Regression tests ftw? |
| 07:46.13 | Chum | oh snaps, I am never going to figure this out. :P |
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| 07:46.20 | Chum | I am used to a shell and using svn |
| 07:46.22 | Dustwhisper | anyways |
| 07:46.25 | Chum | stupid windows. |
| 07:46.37 | Dustwhisper | any Raidaddon that supports target livelists based on Raidicons? |
| 07:48.01 | KarlThePagan | not allowed using wow api I believe |
| 07:48.12 | KarlThePagan | would be nice tho |
| 07:48.18 | Dustwhisper | how would that not be allowed? |
| 07:48.30 | Dustwhisper | it would just be a tank distributing a killsequence eg star > moon > circle |
| 07:48.33 | Dustwhisper | then everyone could see that |
| 07:48.41 | KarlThePagan | they don't provide unit id's for them |
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| 07:48.55 | Kalman| | Dustwhisper: PerfectTargets will give you a list,b ut not a targetable one. |
| 07:48.57 | KarlThePagan | and without unit id's you don't have secure template access to them (as clickable targets) |
| 07:49.07 | Dustwhisper | dont really need that to just have everyone see on screen the kill-list |
| 07:49.10 | KarlThePagan | so... not live lists... not like ALF |
| 07:49.20 | KarlThePagan | then PerfectTargets |
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| 07:49.57 | Chum | bah i need a compilation that doesnt have so much stupid bulk |
| 07:50.15 | Dustwhisper | can an addon get the relative coordinates of mobs? or does it have to target it? |
| 07:50.59 | KarlThePagan | need target |
| 07:51.27 | KarlThePagan | no coordinates inside instances |
| 07:51.42 | KarlThePagan | and you need target of a party member to get data |
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| 07:52.47 | Kalman| | KarlThePagan: Look at GPSLib before you say that. |
| 07:52.59 | KarlThePagan | oh noes |
| 07:53.04 | KarlThePagan | they didn't haha |
| 07:53.23 | Kalman| | Well, it still isn't going to give you mob coords. |
| 07:53.33 | Kalman| | But it implements instance coordinates. |
| 07:53.43 | Kalman| | Ask Cryect how it works, I have no clue. |
| 07:54.48 | KarlThePagan | probably gets the minimap model |
| 07:55.01 | Kalman| | Something to do with ping methods, iirc. |
| 07:55.11 | KarlThePagan | i'll have to check it out |
| 07:55.12 | Diao | it seems to |
| 07:55.19 | Diao | track the change in location on minimap of pings |
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| 07:55.50 | KarlThePagan | a while back someone was feeding me storeis that atlas had dungeon coords |
| 07:58.11 | Chum | hrm, Prat is complaining about not having dewdrop 2.0 |
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| 07:58.46 | Hjalte | Chum, it should be included, if you are using embedded libraries? |
| 07:59.32 | Chum | heh, i thought so too :P |
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| 07:59.58 | KarlThePagan | that's hot stuff GPSLib |
| 08:00.07 | Chum | ? |
| 08:00.40 | Elkano | hmm... if GPS is capable of that, maybe we should try to get it into Cart? |
| 08:00.54 | Hjalte | Chum, you can always go and download it from files.wowace.com if you need it though :) |
| 08:00.54 | Chum | what is GPS capable of? |
| 08:00.59 | KarlThePagan | it's method seems like it could be somewhat invasive |
| 08:01.04 | Chum | yeah thats what I'm about to do Hjalte lol |
| 08:01.22 | ckknight | hey all, back |
| 08:01.28 | ckknight | rother came by |
| 08:01.30 | Diao | wb |
| 08:01.35 | ckknight | brother* |
| 08:01.41 | KarlThePagan | it looks like it makes one ping, and uses the data on where that ping is relative to the minimap to get relative position |
| 08:02.00 | KarlThePagan | and if there are new pings it compensates |
| 08:02.04 | ckknight | Antiarc|Sleep: pong |
| 08:02.07 | Hjalte | Chum, the best thing to do though, is to either find out who the author is and ask him to include dewdrop or make a post in the Prat forum thread asking for Dewdrop to be included. |
| 08:02.25 | Hjalte | ckknight, do you never sleep ? |
| 08:02.32 | ckknight | it's 10 PM. |
| 08:02.37 | Chum | its 3:02 am! |
| 08:02.42 | ckknight | ~ugt |
| 08:02.44 | purl | [ugt] Universial Greeting Time. Created in #mipslinux, it is a rule that states that whenever somebody enters an IRC channel it is always morning, and it is always late when the person leaves. The local time of any other people in the channel, including the greeter, is irrelevant. http://www.total-knowledge.com/~ilya/mips/ugt.html |
| 08:03.05 | Fisker- | nooooo |
| 08:03.06 | Jaxon | Of course, you spend just as much time explaining UGT as you do explaining your own time zone. |
| 08:03.06 | Jaxon | ... |
| 08:03.08 | Fisker- | it's 10am |
| 08:03.10 | Fisker- | you fools |
| 08:03.28 | ckknight | you don't count, Fisker- |
| 08:03.34 | Fisker- | :( |
| 08:03.38 | ckknight | you aren't American, i.e. you don't count as a real person |
| 08:03.39 | Chum | owned.. haha |
| 08:03.40 | ckknight | woo, America! |
| 08:03.42 | Chum | ROFL |
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| 08:03.57 | ckknight | note: I have two beers in me |
| 08:04.05 | KarlThePagan | grats lol |
| 08:04.20 | nevcairiel | you have to note 2 beers? |
| 08:04.32 | KarlThePagan | ckknight, GPSLib - uses ping differentials to construct a rough coordinates system for instances |
| 08:04.35 | ckknight | well, I'm going to be more pompous and obnoxious |
| 08:04.37 | KarlThePagan | intriguing |
| 08:04.39 | Diao | lol |
| 08:04.45 | ckknight | KarlThePagan: yes, I was considering that for Cart |
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| 08:04.56 | KarlThePagan | nice |
| 08:04.57 | ckknight | KarlThePagan: then got tied up with Parser-3.0 and Threat-1.0 |
| 08:05.10 | KarlThePagan | well that's fine... I like Threat |
| 08:05.17 | ckknight | also, apparently the framelevel shit is still messed up in Cart |
| 08:05.18 | Elkano | ck, you are american, so you don't count either :P |
| 08:05.19 | ckknight | so I dunno |
| 08:05.23 | Chum | ok what is cart? |
| 08:05.25 | ckknight | Elkano: how's that? |
| 08:05.28 | ckknight | Chum: Cartographer |
| 08:05.31 | ckknight | Chum: map addon |
| 08:05.38 | Chum | I'll shutup now :P |
| 08:05.43 | nevcairiel | you better |
| 08:05.44 | nevcairiel | :) |
| 08:05.45 | Chum | haha I know what cartographer is |
| 08:05.46 | Fisker- | to be honest we should just get blizzard to do it for us and put in game maps for instances |
| 08:05.48 | Fisker- | would be awesome |
| 08:05.55 | NightHawkTheSane | Cartographer? I hardly know her! |
| 08:06.04 | Elkano | evenworse: you became american by free will... wrt Bush currently being president of the US that's one of the last things I'd do |
| 08:06.16 | nadas | on the topic of threat/omen, is there a wishlist somewhere? :p |
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| 08:06.32 | nadas | or is it too early for that? :) |
| 08:06.48 | ckknight | nadas: do you have a request for threat or for omen? |
| 08:07.01 | ckknight | Elkano: lol, why's that? America #1 |
| 08:07.05 | evl | ckknight: ppst, what's up with PitBull? Any updates planned? |
| 08:07.11 | ckknight | Elkano: no matter our current leader |
| 08:07.14 | Diao | i believe there is a todo list in threat |
| 08:07.14 | NightHawkTheSane | Elkano: to be fair, its not like we actually elected him. >.> |
| 08:07.26 | ckknight | Diebold ftl |
| 08:07.30 | nevcairiel | Elkano: dont try to argue with americans how sucky they really are, its a lost cause :P |
| 08:07.47 | NightHawkTheSane | nevcairiel: its only a lost cause because we agree with you. :P |
| 08:07.53 | Diao | lol |
| 08:08.02 | evl | Hehe, Americans owe a lot of money and if they don't start making some they will eventually be crushed under their own debt, gg deficit! |
| 08:08.09 | ckknight | lol, doubt it |
| 08:08.15 | ckknight | everyone'd be fucked in that case |
| 08:08.18 | nadas | ckknight: i do but it's mostly visual stuff. i know focus is on threat rather than omen atm which is why i'd rather add ideas to a wishlist than bug people straight away. :) |
| 08:08.20 | ckknight | and the market would adjust |
| 08:08.33 | NightHawkTheSane | the us deficit at this point is almost purely academic. :\ |
| 08:08.35 | ckknight | it's like mutual assured destruction, only in an economic sense |
| 08:08.40 | evl | I live in Norway and I just applaud it, more oil for us to sell and a better life for me! |
| 08:09.01 | ckknight | the deficit doesn't mean shit, it hasn't since we went to free silver instead of relying on some real standard. |
| 08:09.09 | ckknight | Note: I'm quite against free silver |
| 08:09.28 | evl | What about the health crisis? |
| 08:09.43 | ckknight | what health criss? |
| 08:09.45 | ckknight | crisis* |
| 08:09.47 | evl | you have no plan :P |
| 08:09.50 | evl | and the country is aging |
| 08:09.52 | ckknight | what do you mean? |
| 08:09.57 | ckknight | of course we have a plan |
| 08:10.09 | ckknight | we ship enough mexicans in to weigh it out |
| 08:10.12 | Diao | lol |
| 08:10.18 | evl | lend even more money because there's no public health plan and you rely on privatly funded programs+ |
| 08:10.21 | NightHawkTheSane | the plan is to let the HMO's pillage and rape the elderly, that's a plan, right? |
| 08:10.35 | Diao | wait what |
| 08:10.44 | Diao | there's plenty of geriatric doctors |
| 08:10.52 | evl | 650 billion dollars in 10 years |
| 08:10.53 | ckknight | please, let's just set up a system like Logan's run |
| 08:10.59 | Elkano | NightHawkTheSane: iirc he didn't won 2k1 (well somehow he did but not by votes) but he did 2k5 |
| 08:11.05 | ckknight | Diao: my mom's a geriatric nurse |
| 08:11.09 | NightHawkTheSane | Elkano: no, he didn't win either. |
| 08:11.34 | ckknight | Elkano: there's voter fraud about. |
| 08:11.46 | NightHawkTheSane | Elkano: it was much more clear cut in 2000, but even in 2004 there's clear cases of voter fraud and mishandling of votes |
| 08:11.52 | ckknight | the problem is not that the election was stolen, but that people think the election was stolen |
| 08:12.02 | ckknight | democracy works by having the people think they are in power |
| 08:12.05 | ckknight | which is waning |
| 08:12.05 | ckknight | sadly |
| 08:12.06 | Diao | hmm |
| 08:12.21 | Diao | ckknight how does pitbull currently track if someone ressed or not |
| 08:12.29 | ckknight | PLAYER_ALIVE |
| 08:12.39 | ckknight | or PLAYER_UNGHOST |
| 08:12.41 | NightHawkTheSane | I really need to stop reading Daily Kos, it depresses me |
| 08:12.57 | Diao | oh |
| 08:13.05 | Chum | i need to start programming, and writing my own addons |
| 08:13.11 | Elkano | well, I listend to "stupid white man" again lately... it's "fun" but sill somehow disgusting... |
| 08:14.19 | Diao | so neither of those fires when someone dies and releases in a TK instance which takes them right to the gy? |
| 08:14.19 | Elkano | but besides that, being able to 'win' again in 2k4 proofs that America got what it deserves since there are too many stupid people around... |
| 08:15.20 | ckknight | and part of me hopes that Europe falls on its face with an aging population and an overbearing socialistic policy, but I'm not too big of a dick about it |
| 08:15.37 | NightHawkTheSane | Elkano: eh, i can joke a bunch about how stupid america is, but it's a really poor generalization to say "america got what it deserved". i mean, there's 300+ million people here, not all of us are mouth breathing right wing nut jobs. |
| 08:15.57 | evl | Well atleast we're not trying to finance our spending spree by pillaging other countries. |
| 08:16.11 | Fisker- | no but you're not on a killing spree either NightHawkTheSane |
| 08:16.25 | NightHawkTheSane | Fisker-: only because i'm too poor to buy a gun. ;) |
| 08:16.29 | evl | American Foreign Policy = Your Country, Our Credit Card |
| 08:16.42 | sbu | someone please tell me how to skip hydross in SSC since 2.1 |
| 08:16.45 | ckknight | Manifest Destiny, man |
| 08:17.06 | Fisker- | they haven't changed anything about it as far as the patch notes say sbu |
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| 08:17.44 | bigzero | anyone using classtimers? |
| 08:17.46 | sbu | Fisker-: mh - there is something changed with lurker - you cant do him as first boss - so i dont know if there is also something 'wrong' with those fishes |
| 08:17.55 | evl | sbu: wrong, you can |
| 08:18.02 | sbu | uhm |
| 08:18.03 | Dustwhisper | hu? |
| 08:18.04 | sbu | yes? |
| 08:18.06 | Dustwhisper | we did it yesterday |
| 08:18.09 | Dustwhisper | not that we actually downed him |
| 08:18.13 | evl | l2sneak past :) |
| 08:18.22 | sbu | so just water-walking to lurker platform? |
| 08:18.27 | Elkano | nighthawkthesane, well, I approve that that was a bit too generalized but I still wonder how it was possible for someone that showed so much incompetence to be elected again... well best thing about him being elected again is the knowledge that there won't be a third time... |
| 08:18.28 | sbu | or sneak past hydross somehow? |
| 08:18.37 | Dustwhisper | sneak past |
| 08:18.44 | Dustwhisper | you just walk at the very end of the platform |
| 08:18.48 | Dustwhisper | or you aggro the spawns |
| 08:18.52 | Dustwhisper | you can easily solo those spawns though |
| 08:18.54 | Dustwhisper | they only have 10k hp |
| 08:18.59 | NightHawkTheSane | Elkano: i know, i wonder the same damn thing. :P |
| 08:19.08 | Dustwhisper | http://bildr.no/view/72424 |
| 08:19.12 | Dustwhisper | how to do lurker XD |
| 08:19.37 | sbu | ;o |
| 08:19.52 | nadas | we always get the scalding water now |
| 08:20.03 | nadas | so much easier + it's free nether vortices :) |
| 08:20.03 | Dustwhisper | so do we |
| 08:20.06 | Dustwhisper | 500hp every 1-2 seconds |
| 08:20.10 | Dustwhisper | compared to 1k bites from fishies |
| 08:20.23 | nadas | don't forget the daze effect :p |
| 08:20.25 | Elkano | nighthawk, so that was what I pointed out. if there are that many stupid people in the country that want suc a stuip leader they somehow deserve it... and the educated ones somehow deserve it too by not having tried hard enought to enlighten the others |
| 08:20.30 | sbu | mh... |
| 08:20.30 | Dustwhisper | what's free nether vortexes? |
| 08:20.36 | nadas | killing the trash |
| 08:20.47 | sbu | i still have no clue how to get past hydross w/o enough resistance gear ;) |
| 08:21.06 | sbu | distract him, walk by and reset encounter? |
| 08:21.13 | nadas | sbu: you can run past him without aggroing |
| 08:21.21 | nadas | sbu: just stick to the edge of the platform |
| 08:21.22 | Dustwhisper | what do you mean get past him? |
| 08:21.23 | Dustwhisper | just walk past |
| 08:21.26 | sbu | w/o being rogue/cat? |
| 08:21.27 | Dustwhisper | at the end of platform |
| 08:21.28 | sbu | hmm |
| 08:21.28 | nadas | yeah |
| 08:21.31 | Dustwhisper | you wont pull aggro at all |
| 08:21.32 | Dustwhisper | you MIGHT |
| 08:21.32 | evl | just |
| 08:21.34 | Dustwhisper | pull an add |
| 08:21.36 | Dustwhisper | and they are easy as hell |
| 08:21.37 | evl | like go on the left side of that lamp |
| 08:21.41 | NightHawkTheSane | Elkano: yeah, i know what you mean, its just frustrating for us as well. |
| 08:21.49 | sbu | hm okay, will try, thank you ;) |
| 08:22.11 | NightHawkTheSane | Heh, i saw last.fm had some job postings, if i could have somehow manged to move to london, i'd have totally applied. >.> |
| 08:22.13 | nadas | we got 7x nether vortex clearing the trash yesterday :) |
| 08:22.19 | Elkano | it's the same with us and guns... saying "people don't run amok that easy because of easy access to guns but because not everybody has a gun to stop them" (something I heared wrt vtech) |
| 08:22.20 | sbu | oh |
| 08:22.27 | sbu | warrior would be happy :o |
| 08:22.48 | nadas | our 2 primary tanks both have blazefury now |
| 08:22.50 | Chum | http://www.xpaintball.biz/Colstons-Custom-Spyder-MR3-Sniper-Paintball-Guns-P15970C4078.aspx |
| 08:23.00 | Chum | thats the gun I am planning on buying |
| 08:23.04 | sbu | hm i dont know, blazefury > king's defender? |
| 08:23.13 | Elkano | btw: wrt elections I wonder which one of the democraes will make it... and seeing how much mony is spend for the election before the election is making me said, too :/ |
| 08:23.26 | sbu | offtank wants to have dragonstrike ;) |
| 08:23.59 | NightHawkTheSane | Elkano: If i had to make a guess right now, I'd probably say clinton or obama. they seem to be the front runners at the moment |
| 08:24.27 | Elkano | there are others than these two? |
| 08:25.00 | Chum | anyone use a compilation/suite whatever that has quite a bit of functunality but doesnt display alot? Kinda hate alot of crap on my screen ^_^ |
| 08:25.00 | sbu | nadas: something important to know about SSC trash? ;) |
| 08:25.01 | Hjalte | I think it's going to be Clinton, but i'm hoping for Obama. It's kind of a win-win situation though. |
| 08:25.04 | nadas | sbu: nah, it's easy mode since the patch |
| 08:25.22 | NightHawkTheSane | Elkano: yeah, at the moment there's a lot, because we're still in the pre-primary stage ;) |
| 08:25.46 | nadas | the colossi still have the potential to kill first timers though ;) |
| 08:26.16 | Diao | chum just make your own compilation :P |
| 08:26.21 | Elkano | well, I myself am looking forward to Clinton... mainly for a) the fun seeing Bill back in the white house but not in oval and b) for seeing a woman in place |
| 08:26.51 | sbu | nadas: mh and i dont understand why there is no graveyard inside coilfang... |
| 08:27.03 | Hjalte | I remember the first time we took down the first trash in SSC after some patch. When the big guys got changed. First time one of them died, good mushrooms spawned, so we assumed that was the general behaviour now. Second big guy killed 90% of the raid when it died :P |
| 08:27.05 | nadas | sbu: because you're not supposed to die ;) |
| 08:27.50 | NightHawkTheSane | Elkano: I'm coming around to clinton again, so I probably wouldn't mind that. I'd kind of like to see John Edwards get the nomination, though. I like that he's taken a strong and vocal anti-war stance. |
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| 08:28.32 | frop | hallo |
| 08:28.46 | sbu | Hjalte: mushrooms? :o |
| 08:28.53 | frop | is someone using Omen? |
| 08:28.56 | nadas | Hjalte: the acid geyser is always fun. as is the poison cloud when they die, especially if you're lucky enough to have parasites at the same time :p |
| 08:29.03 | sbu | emeriss mushrooms? :p |
| 08:29.04 | LePeR|Jaunia | can't you waterwalk around all the ssc trash? |
| 08:29.13 | Hjalte | sbu, no, health and mana regen mushroom ;) |
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| 08:29.17 | sbu | oh |
| 08:29.18 | sbu | :o |
| 08:29.41 | sbu | so its random effect on kill? (good or bad thing :o) |
| 08:29.49 | Dustwhisper | bill clinton was a great president tbh |
| 08:29.51 | Hjalte | sbu, so when we took the second big guy down, everyone rushed in to the mushrooms... which turned out to be green stuff killing everyone this time ;) |
| 08:30.06 | sbu | heh nice ;p |
| 08:30.09 | Hjalte | sbu, yeah, random stuff |
| 08:30.13 | NightHawkTheSane | Dustwhisper: imo, fifty years from now, we'll all look back and realize that he was, in fact, the best. president. ever. |
| 08:30.14 | nadas | sbu: yeah, they have random skills both during the fight and when they die |
| 08:30.33 | sbu | going to be fun tomorrow %-) |
| 08:30.41 | NightHawkTheSane | (well, okay, lincoln was pretty good, what with freeing the slaves and all, but you get my meaning) |
| 08:31.11 | Dustwhisper | aye |
| 08:31.16 | Dustwhisper | i think he did great work |
| 08:31.21 | Dustwhisper | and who cares if he got some bj |
| 08:31.40 | Dustwhisper | more surprised that bush didnt get impeached |
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| 08:32.49 | ckknight | Lincoln didn't free any slaves... |
| 08:32.55 | Hjalte | Could someone tell the stupid dane (me) what impeached means? |
| 08:33.08 | NightHawkTheSane | ckknight: yeah, i'm aware, i was being mostly hyperbolic |
| 08:33.18 | Chum | make my own compilation... hrmm |
| 08:33.28 | theoddone33 | impeached is like pressing charges against the president |
| 08:33.54 | NightHawkTheSane | theoddone33: yes, it's removing the president from office for violating laws. |
| 08:33.55 | ckknight | Hjalte: it means to under go a legal operation where a political official is questioned about stuff and investigated about things in order to potentially take said official out of office |
| 08:34.00 | ckknight | no, NightHawkTheSane |
| 08:34.01 | theoddone33 | it's not though |
| 08:34.06 | Chum | i know its not tough. |
| 08:34.36 | theoddone33 | it's just like a decision whether he should be tried, pretty much |
| 08:34.49 | theoddone33 | it's happened once in the history of the united states I believe |
| 08:34.58 | ckknight | no, like 4 times |
| 08:35.04 | ckknight | for the president, that is |
| 08:35.14 | ckknight | Clinton was impeached, you know |
| 08:35.14 | nymbia | nixon, clinton.... when else |
| 08:35.23 | ckknight | nymbia: few early ones |
| 08:35.27 | theoddone33 | I beleive the only one other than clinton anywhere close was andrew jackson, and the last guy voted not to impeach him |
| 08:35.30 | theoddone33 | wikipedia knows |
| 08:36.33 | Dustwhisper | nixon, clinton |
| 08:36.36 | theoddone33 | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Impeachment_in_the_United_States |
| 08:36.51 | theoddone33 | ok I was wrong |
| 08:36.59 | theoddone33 | two presidents in history |
| 08:37.03 | theoddone33 | jackson and clinton |
| 08:37.14 | nymbia | that's all? |
| 08:37.16 | nymbia | huh. |
| 08:37.17 | theoddone33 | yes |
| 08:37.26 | theoddone33 | nixon resigned before they got around to it iirc |
| 08:37.27 | MikkZzz | nixon resigned before impeachment trial could being |
| 08:37.30 | theoddone33 | I wasn't exactly alive |
| 08:37.32 | MikkZzz | begin* |
| 08:37.36 | NightHawkTheSane | huh, i could have sworn another earlier one was impeached |
| 08:38.05 | theoddone33 | just jackson |
| 08:38.11 | Jaxon | Hi |
| 08:38.12 | Jaxon | stop |
| 08:38.12 | theoddone33 | and that was over slave politics |
| 08:38.14 | Gandharva | ckknight: looks like a nice patch: http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=5848.msg107911#msg107911 |
| 08:38.14 | Jaxon | saying Jackson |
| 08:38.16 | theoddone33 | heh |
| 08:38.20 | theoddone33 | andy j |
| 08:38.20 | theoddone33 | ! |
| 08:38.21 | MikkZzz | wikipedia doesn't list him |
| 08:38.27 | MikkZzz | "Andrew Johnson was impeached in 1868 after violating the then-newly created Tenure of Office Act. President Johnson was acquitted of all charges by a single vote in the Senate." |
| 08:38.33 | theoddone33 | ah |
| 08:38.35 | theoddone33 | wrong one |
| 08:38.46 | theoddone33 | got my last names mixed |
| 08:43.04 | CIA-22 | 03daviesh * r38414 10AtlasLoot/Bossnames/bossnames.en.lua: |
| 08:43.04 | CIA-22 | AtlasLoot: |
| 08:43.04 | CIA-22 | - Fixed typo in Gruul's name |
| 08:45.18 | NightHawkTheSane | part of me wonders how you typo 'Gruul' |
| 08:45.39 | theoddone33 | dragonlayer |
| 08:45.43 | Hjalte | At the moment, there isn't anywhere that I can find out what some of the signs in Omen mean, is there? Like a wiki-page or the like. |
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| 08:45.48 | Elkano | Grull |
| 08:46.32 | Elkano | hmm... or was it Krull? ;) |
| 08:47.06 | CIA-22 | 03kemayo * r38415 10OpenAll/OpenAll.lua: OpenAll: Account for the *second* time someone clicks to open everything. |
| 08:47.51 | Hjalte | Kemayo, is your OpenAll addon compatible with Postman? |
| 08:48.14 | Kemayo | Hjalte: I have no idea. :) |
| 08:48.33 | Kemayo | Hjalte: Does it put a button at the bottom of the inbox frame, inbetween the next and previous buttons? |
| 08:48.56 | NightHawkTheSane | Kemayo: 42 lines?1? wtf is that crap? i thought this was small? ;) |
| 08:49.10 | Hjalte | Kemayo: Eh. I'm not that old, but i don't remember very well either. I don't think it does, no. |
| 08:49.16 | Kemayo | I like big code and I cannot lie. |
| 08:50.14 | Elkano | kemayo, what does 'openall' do? |
| 08:50.31 | Hjalte | Ellkano, take a wild guess. it's a mail addon. :P |
| 08:50.45 | Kemayo | Elkano: It puts a button on the inbox pane which picks up all your mail. |
| 08:51.10 | Kemayo | Hjalte: If it doesn't put a button there, it's compatible. |
| 08:51.22 | Hjalte | Kemayo, Great. |
| 08:52.14 | Elkano | Hjalte: could have also been a bag addon |
| 08:52.30 | Kemayo | Elkano: It's just something I whipped together so that hyperChipmunk could stop being pestered to add mail-collection stuff to Bulkmail. :D |
| 08:52.45 | bigzero | ckknight, got an error with Treat-1.0 right after canceling the invis debuff: Violation-1.0.38177\libs\Threat-1.0\ClassModules\Mage.lua:84: attempt to perform arithmetic on field 'invisStartTime' (a nil value) |
| 08:52.58 | bigzero | err invisibility buff |
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| 08:53.12 | ckknight | dunno about that |
| 08:53.18 | ckknight | I have a headache |
| 08:53.25 | bigzero | :-( |
| 08:53.30 | bigzero | well, just letting you know |
| 08:53.35 | Hjalte | Bigzero, update Threat and try again. |
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| 08:54.40 | abbat_w | hi guys |
| 08:55.12 | Punkie` | y helo thar |
| 08:55.17 | Hjalte | elkano, you're right, hadnt thought about that one. |
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| 08:59.11 | bigzero | Kemayo, i still think this feature should come with bulkmail |
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| 09:03.40 | [Ammo] | morning girls |
| 09:04.34 | Chompers | helloooooooo |
| 09:08.28 | Fisker- | i don't like you :( |
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| 09:08.57 | SunTiger | morning |
| 09:09.41 | evl | [Ammo]: mørning! |
| 09:10.37 | Punkie` | ckknight: ping |
| 09:10.44 | ckknight | pong |
| 09:11.08 | Punkie` | Remember I said that Killing Blow didn't display from SCT in PvP due to your parser changes? |
| 09:12.02 | Punkie` | You told me that SCT didn't use parser for that, so it wasn't your fault |
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| 09:12.16 | ckknight | k? |
| 09:12.21 | Punkie` | But if you look at http://svn.wowace.com/wowace/trunk/sct/sct.lua @ line 404 it does :( |
| 09:12.25 | Ominous | violation_combatlog range dosent work anymore does it? |
| 09:12.36 | Punkie` | Ominous: negative |
| 09:12.50 | Ominous | does that mean it works |
| 09:13.26 | Hjalte | Ominous, I think there are some changes in patch 2.1 making it work again. |
| 09:13.32 | [Ammo] | Punkie`: do as I said, get MSBT, sct is horrible :p |
| 09:13.40 | Punkie` | MSBT sucks ass |
| 09:13.49 | Punkie` | It doesn't do what I want, so shoo |
| 09:14.06 | Punkie` | rainbow > all |
| 09:15.14 | abbat_w | btw |
| 09:15.30 | ckknight | no, Punkie`, I was talking about honorable kills |
| 09:15.32 | abbat_w | now pitbull auras can be removed by mouse click |
| 09:15.34 | abbat_w | nice ;) |
| 09:15.52 | evl | I sitll have a shitload of bugs in PitBull concerning auras and textures |
| 09:16.04 | evl | I frequently get a random aura's texture as my spark texture while raiding |
| 09:16.07 | evl | like they shuffle around |
| 09:16.22 | Punkie` | ckknight: Well, you do not get a 'Killing Blow!' message if you kill something that returns honor |
| 09:16.41 | ckknight | yea, which .type = "death" doesn't check for... |
| 09:16.53 | abbat_w | evl, i have same with buffalo for example |
| 09:17.00 | abbat_w | never see same with pitbull |
| 09:17.05 | evl | Is it the caching? |
| 09:17.12 | abbat_w | i don't know |
| 09:17.15 | CIA-22 | 03nymbia * r38416 10Quartz/Flight/Flight.lua: |
| 09:17.15 | CIA-22 | Quartz_Flight: |
| 09:17.15 | CIA-22 | - Add option to deplete flight timer. Drycoded, woo! |
| 09:17.19 | [Ammo] | Punkie`: MSBT gives me that :p |
| 09:17.28 | Punkie` | SCT used too |
| 09:17.35 | Punkie` | and SCT still gives me rainbow |
| 09:17.35 | abbat_w | and i try quartz in pvp |
| 09:17.58 | abbat_w | so, with 0.5 bg transparency, turned off border Quartz just r0x ;) |
| 09:18.15 | [Ammo] | Punkie`: your fps, not mine :p |
| 09:18.36 | Punkie` | My fps are solid at 64 /pat |
| 09:19.03 | nadas | hmm, what's the issue with SCT? people keep recommending MSBT and i've been too lazy to even consider it.. :( |
| 09:19.08 | Punkie` | Once they fix the dual core bug it will be fine |
| 09:19.27 | abbat_w | i have a problems with sct |
| 09:19.51 | [Ammo] | SCT eats twice the mem/s and a lot more cpu than msbt |
| 09:19.56 | abbat_w | don't sure it's sct but sometimes i have lag while sct display messages |
| 09:20.02 | [Ammo] | that's sct |
| 09:20.09 | nadas | [Ammo]: ah, that's a good enough reason for me |
| 09:20.21 | nadas | switching today then :) |
| 09:20.25 | [Ammo] | same reason I switched back to agUF from pitbull, Ckk failed in the efficiency department :p |
| 09:20.32 | abbat_w | i have combat indication on and sometimes i have 1 sec lag after sct display "+combat" or "-combat" |
| 09:20.37 | nymbia | msbt rocks |
| 09:20.49 | nadas | pitbull has some awesome eye candy though ;) |
| 09:21.08 | Punkie` | If msbt gets rainbow then maybe i will change :p |
| 09:21.12 | abbat_w | Maybe it's not scr problem but PitBull, i don't know |
| 09:21.14 | [Ammo] | nadas: I didn't use all the extra candy |
| 09:21.21 | abbat_w | scr=sct |
| 09:21.25 | [Ammo] | nadas: I had it setup to be exactly like my agUF frames |
| 09:21.27 | nadas | [Ammo]: only thing i'd really miss is the power spark |
| 09:21.33 | [Ammo] | not me, kEnergy |
| 09:21.37 | Punkie` | but for now, it's too hard to get used too when changing as the two are so different |
| 09:21.55 | Punkie` | kEnergy + transparent texture = party |
| 09:21.56 | [Ammo] | Punkie`: play for a day, and you're used to it |
| 09:22.06 | nadas | Punkie`: never thought of that |
| 09:22.08 | [Ammo] | the rainbow animation is chaotic as it is |
| 09:22.19 | Punkie` | The rainbow animation owns |
| 09:22.34 | abbat_w | chaos, agree |
| 09:22.45 | Jaxon | I've never been able to use anything but the standard scroll up or down |
| 09:22.54 | Jaxon | Anything else is too hard to follow with that much information |
| 09:22.57 | [Ammo] | I use a circular animation |
| 09:23.01 | [Ammo] | damage goes up on the right of my char |
| 09:23.05 | [Ammo] | healing goes down on the left |
| 09:23.13 | [Ammo] | so in full motion it's a circle around my char :) |
| 09:23.45 | Chompers | the circle of...damage |
| 09:23.56 | [Ammo] | not really |
| 09:24.01 | [Ammo] | left of my char is incoming healing |
| 09:24.13 | Tovort | I find the layouts for Pitbull quite powerful and customisable, yet not very easy to modifiy - writing all this options code... |
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| 09:24.34 | [Ammo] | oh they are, but it's starting to resembled DUF :p |
| 09:24.41 | Chum | lol |
| 09:24.44 | abbat_w | DUF! |
| 09:24.45 | Chum | Pitbull huh? |
| 09:24.48 | abbat_w | Lozareth!!! |
| 09:24.51 | [Ammo] | lots of features, no polish on the existing ones |
| 09:25.01 | Chum | DUF is cool.. i think it has a bit too much bulk for my tastes. |
| 09:25.13 | Punkie` | There was nothing wrong with agUF anyway |
| 09:25.19 | Punkie` | so I never changed |
| 09:25.36 | abbat_w | 1. agUF didn't have same bar fader as PitBull have |
| 09:25.50 | abbat_w | 2. agUF don't have aura options like PitBull |
| 09:26.04 | Punkie` | there's nothing wrong with those for me |
| 09:26.05 | Tovort | I'm using agUF on my mains, and Pitbull on my current leveling alt |
| 09:26.05 | abbat_w | 3. agUF don't have party's targets |
| 09:26.23 | Tovort | afaik the aura options might be backported |
| 09:26.28 | abbat_w | But nothing wrong with agUF, you right |
| 09:26.37 | Punkie` | abbat_w: less fluff, more stabbing of the current target |
| 09:26.48 | nevcairiel | agUF can have party targets |
| 09:26.53 | nevcairiel | it just a bit weird to set it up |
| 09:27.03 | abbat_w | nevcairiel, yeah, Andreas told about that |
| 09:27.07 | nevcairiel | but some day, ag will add it to the menu :) |
| 09:27.23 | Tovort | I personally like the agUF code, easy to understand and modify |
| 09:27.30 | abbat_w | and i don't know about all ppl, but auras in PitBull just cool |
| 09:27.39 | abbat_w | ;) |
| 09:27.45 | Punkie` | abbat_w: You can modify the auras in agUF if you know some lua |
| 09:27.50 | Punkie` | quite easily in fact |
| 09:27.53 | Chum | oh god this Pitbull thing is horrible. |
| 09:28.01 | Chum | its the worse addon I've ever seen o.O |
| 09:28.14 | omega | but it has pretty interaction lines! |
| 09:28.31 | Tovort | Punkie: have you done a port of this clockwise fading of buffs / debuffs for aguf? |
| 09:28.44 | [Ammo] | abbat_w: 1. http://svn.wowace.com/wowace/trunk/aUF_BarFader/ |
| 09:28.51 | [Ammo] | 2. don't need |
| 09:28.53 | Punkie` | Tovort: No, I just customised what I wanted to see |
| 09:28.59 | [Ammo] | 3. you can create them yourself |
| 09:29.02 | nevcairiel | stupid nvidia, released drivers that improve performance in wow 2.1, but not for xp64 *grumble |
| 09:29.09 | [Ammo] | oh they did |
| 09:29.12 | Punkie` | link! |
| 09:29.13 | [Ammo] | url |
| 09:29.18 | nevcairiel | www.nvidia.com :P |
| 09:29.19 | [Ammo] | neeed |
| 09:29.20 | [Ammo] | oh |
| 09:29.21 | omega | nevcairiel: what about for linux? |
| 09:29.21 | [Ammo] | meh |
| 09:29.22 | abbat_w | Ammo, i use agUF with fader sure ;) But PitBull bar fader have some nice small eyecandy stuff ;) |
| 09:29.22 | Chum | i was just joking about Pitbull hehe haven't downloaded it yet |
| 09:29.24 | Chum | anyways. |
| 09:29.31 | Chum | whats this about pitbull? or aguf? |
| 09:29.33 | nevcairiel | released 31.5 |
| 09:29.39 | nevcairiel | omega: dunno, lets see |
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| 09:30.02 | nevcairiel | omega: latest march 7th |
| 09:31.01 | omega | right |
| 09:31.41 | abbat_w | Ammo, party's target - nice for 5x5 arenas |
| 09:32.06 | nevcairiel | btw, i think ATI released new drivers too |
| 09:32.10 | nevcairiel | but i dun care |
| 09:32.10 | nevcairiel | :) |
| 09:32.13 | [Ammo] | abbat_w: you can add them |
| 09:32.19 | [Ammo] | there'se even an addon in the thread on forums |
| 09:32.22 | [Ammo] | that adds them for you |
| 09:32.56 | abbat_w | What about auras, everytime after i meet warlock i have couple of dots and need to know how this shit fade from me and do i have hp or die anyway |
| 09:33.24 | Punkie` | nevcairiel: Where does it say that? / Where are the release notes? ;p |
| 09:33.31 | abbat_w | PitBull do good indication. Timer inside aura icon |
| 09:33.40 | nevcairiel | dunno, nvidia forgot release notes to that drivers |
| 09:33.41 | nevcairiel | somehow. |
| 09:33.50 | Chum | You know one that I am really starting to hate ? |
| 09:34.08 | Chum | Addons with the overuse of mouse over menus.. |
| 09:34.16 | Silviu- | nevcairiel i hate nvidia .. |
| 09:34.23 | Chum | and it keeps expanding.. like 5 menus are on your screen before you even come close to the goal |
| 09:34.26 | Punkie` | nevcairiel: How do you know there are 2.1 improvements :o |
| 09:34.47 | Chum | so yeah.. pitbull is annoying :P |
| 09:34.51 | Chum | whats that other one? ^_^ |
| 09:34.53 | Chum | aguf? |
| 09:35.03 | Punkie` | ag_unitframes |
| 09:35.05 | abbat_w | ;) |
| 09:35.15 | abbat_w | I use Niagara |
| 09:35.25 | Silviu- | New driver 94.24 for my Fx 5700 download uninstall old try install new, driver not compatible with your hardware wtf .. i go in pdf my video card is listed but in ini is not listed so it`s not installing :/ |
| 09:35.29 | abbat_w | For configure ace addons |
| 09:35.30 | nevcairiel | Punkie`: oh thats easy, i run the new drivers on another pc with xp32, but on my main pc i have xp64 and no drivers yet :( |
| 09:35.48 | Hjalte | As long as the default settings are good, there is nothing wrong with menues. |
| 09:35.51 | nevcairiel | and you do notice a improvement, for me anyway |
| 09:36.07 | nevcairiel | depends if you had a performance loss with 2.1 to begin with :P |
| 09:36.08 | Punkie` | I used NGO optimized drivers anyway :o |
| 09:36.11 | evl | After 2.1 I get these wierd black squares when I'm flying :( |
| 09:36.14 | evl | on the ground |
| 09:36.50 | Punkie` | actually yeah, I get some weird screentear that flashes for only a millisecond or so |
| 09:38.03 | [Ammo] | me too |
| 09:38.10 | [Ammo] | hope those drives fix it |
| 09:38.21 | [Ammo] | I did have a performance loss with 2.1 as well |
| 09:38.23 | [Ammo] | althoguh minor |
| 09:38.36 | omega | wish I had 1000fps so I could notice millisecond flashes as well :) |
| 09:38.38 | Punkie` | I only had performance loss in Karazhan |
| 09:39.03 | Punkie` | omega: what if your monitors refresh rate was 7ms though :p |
| 09:39.13 | nevcairiel | everytime i alt-tab i can do /console gxrestart afterwards to get rid of polygon errors |
| 09:39.29 | nevcairiel | thats really anoying |
| 09:39.50 | Punkie` | I *sometimes* get weird texture overlapping |
| 09:40.04 | Punkie` | like someone's body is covered with the alliance flag or something |
| 09:40.10 | Punkie` | but if you zoom in, it's fine |
| 09:40.40 | nevcairiel | stupid NGO wont offer x64 either, i wonder why i even use it :P |
| 09:41.41 | Punkie` | Someone at the office bought and installed Vista x64 on his home computer |
| 09:41.54 | Punkie` | that was great fun watching him find decent driver support for anything |
| 09:42.35 | Chum | argh I wish there was a snap to grid! |
| 09:42.54 | Chum | I hate when stuff doesnt line up |
| 09:43.03 | Punkie` | Chum: just put your eyeball close to the screen so you can see the pixels! |
| 09:43.09 | syeren | [Ammo] Do you have any idea what could be causing a pause from leaving (intensive) combat? |
| 09:43.19 | syeren | Had it since 2.1 |
| 09:43.25 | syeren | And it's ever so frustrating sometimes :/ |
| 09:43.40 | ckknight | syeren: using PitBull? |
| 09:43.43 | syeren | Yes. |
| 09:43.51 | ckknight | I might make a fix soon |
| 09:44.02 | syeren | ckknight, on my Mag kill video. |
| 09:44.02 | ckknight | to potentially fix said lag |
| 09:44.08 | syeren | A fucking 1 second pause -_- |
| 09:44.11 | syeren | Looks so dumb. |
| 09:44.14 | syeren | But it's Pitbull? |
| 09:44.19 | ckknight | not sure |
| 09:44.21 | ckknight | could be part. |
| 09:44.34 | syeren | I also seem to be having an error lately where I sometimes enter BG, and everything is completely froze, I can move my mouse though. |
| 09:44.41 | syeren | All my Pitbull frames are "Unknown." |
| 09:44.44 | Chum | down with pitbull! |
| 09:44.51 | Chum | too many damn menus! |
| 09:44.54 | Chum | BOO! |
| 09:45.30 | ckknight | Chum: if you have a better idea, I'd be happy to hear it |
| 09:45.37 | Chum | !! |
| 09:45.48 | Chum | hrm |
| 09:45.52 | syeren | The freezing thing also happens to my friend too, and he uses the exact same addons as me :/ |
| 09:45.58 | Chum | how about.. small popup windows? or something.. |
| 09:46.03 | syeren | Which makes me obviously suspect one of my addons, I have no idea what it could be though. |
| 09:46.06 | Chum | i hate having to re-navigate to the item I just changed. |
| 09:46.10 | Punkie` | ckknight: The best idea would be to simultaneously change the size of everything at the same time |
| 09:46.30 | Punkie` | like, a global healthbar config or something |
| 09:46.38 | abbat_w | syeren, i have same problem with aguf |
| 09:46.59 | abbat_w | i think it's not patry frames addon |
| 09:47.09 | syeren | The Freezing when entering BG sometimes? |
| 09:47.15 | abbat_w | yes |
| 09:47.18 | syeren | Hmm. |
| 09:47.22 | syeren | Do you use Grid? |
| 09:47.23 | abbat_w | Some times ago i use agUF |
| 09:47.25 | abbat_w | sure |
| 09:47.31 | cs-cam | i get that as well, using agUF |
| 09:47.33 | abbat_w | I use grid everytime |
| 09:47.48 | Punkie` | I use grid and agUF, never get the end of combat freeze though |
| 09:47.53 | abbat_w | i'm mage and need grid for buffs/decurse even in bgs |
| 09:47.54 | syeren | Thing is, while it's spiked, there is no way I can do any form of profilingto find out what is causing the huge process spike. |
| 09:47.57 | nevcairiel | Hm nice, the 150-driver-serius is supposed to supper geforce 6 and 7 too in an upcoming release, finally unified drivers again \o/ |
| 09:47.58 | Punkie` | I get the battleground freeze |
| 09:47.59 | Chum | grid? |
| 09:48.01 | Chum | GRID!? |
| 09:48.17 | syeren | And when I check my task manager, I'm at 100% processing on WoW :/ |
| 09:48.25 | syeren | And then as soon as it finishes it goes to nothingness. |
| 09:48.26 | Chum | I wish I had a grid.. so I can see when stuff is lined up ^_^ |
| 09:48.38 | cs-cam | i'm using sRaifFrames for the raid and still getting the freezes |
| 09:48.41 | Punkie` | Chum: go download one then? |
| 09:48.45 | Chum | !? |
| 09:48.50 | Chum | Is there one !? |
| 09:49.16 | Hjalte | Chum, get Align from wowinterface |
| 09:49.54 | evl | Align isn't accurate though :D |
| 09:49.57 | Punkie` | Chum: Align or http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info4948-SnapToGrid.html |
| 09:50.14 | evl | I mean snap to |
| 09:50.32 | Chum | so which is better evl? |
| 09:50.32 | Punkie` | I don't even use anything like that |
| 09:50.47 | evl | I dunno |
| 09:50.50 | Punkie` | evl: go post your UI on our forum! noone seems to be doing it anymore :( |
| 09:50.55 | evl | I'm using my private fork of oUF :P |
| 09:51.07 | Punkie` | Need oUF :( |
| 09:51.21 | evl | player:SetPoint("RIGHT", UIParent, "BOTTOM", -25, 70) target:SetPoint("LEFT", UIParent, "BOTTOM", 25, 70) |
| 09:51.25 | evl | voilá center ;) |
| 09:51.38 | Chum | maybe i was too hard on pitbull, I will try it again |
| 09:52.09 | syeren | There is nothing wrong with it, if you don't like menus.... |
| 09:52.10 | syeren | Ermm... |
| 09:52.19 | syeren | Well yeah, I bet you get far in life :P |
| 09:52.28 | Chum | hahaha |
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| 09:53.37 | [Ammo] | Q: Why do programmers confuse Halloween and Christmas? A: Because Oct 31 equals Dec 25 |
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| 09:54.43 | Fisker- | i would've lol'd [Ammo] if christmas wasn't the 24th here |
| 09:55.04 | ckknight | it's 25 here |
| 09:55.27 | Fisker- | i know |
| 09:57.28 | Fisker- | what's the Xbox360 priced at in the US? |
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| 09:57.55 | Fisker- | don't know any us sites where i can compare prices :P |
| 09:57.59 | Chum | um.. i dont get that joke Ammo. |
| 09:58.11 | Chum | Fisker-- ebgames.com |
| 09:58.34 | Fisker- | not a price comparison but i guess i can live with that :P |
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| 10:01.46 | CIA-22 | 03mok * r38418 10xchar/paperdoll.lua: xchar: added paperdoll.lua |
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| 10:03.24 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r38419 10PitBull/PitBull.lua: PitBull - optimization with frames updating on combat, inspiration comes from Jerry. |
| 10:03.40 | ckknight | syeren: you can test that, see if it does you any good. I have a feeling that it might help |
| 10:04.37 | Chum | argh I cant wait to buy my 400$ paintball gun |
| 10:05.23 | evl | Why is Threat in PitBull now? |
| 10:05.54 | ckknight | DogTag can use it |
| 10:06.04 | ckknight | planning on making a module that uses it |
| 10:07.41 | Chum | hrm |
| 10:07.53 | Chum | now I need a good bar mod, and I hate bongos :P |
| 10:08.30 | frop | eheh |
| 10:08.30 | Saladin | bartender3, gogo |
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| 10:08.37 | frop | using it too |
| 10:08.38 | frop | :D |
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| 10:08.49 | frop | ...but i can't get Omen to work |
| 10:08.50 | frop | :P |
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| 10:09.27 | nadas | is Antiarc arond? |
| 10:09.33 | nadas | around |
| 10:09.47 | Saladin | Antiarc|Sleep says it all |
| 10:09.47 | syeren | ckknight, I never lacked any confidence in your ability to fix the 'issue', I was simply wondering if that with your far greater knowledge of developing addons if you could have a guess at what is causing the Enter-BG Freeze that so many of us experience, with or without Pitbull ;) |
| 10:10.05 | ckknight | enter-bg? |
| 10:10.06 | ckknight | hrm |
| 10:10.10 | Diao | hmm |
| 10:10.16 | syeren | We had a discussion about it when we had our petty fight. |
| 10:10.17 | Diao | how does pitbull detect whether party members are alive or not :O |
| 10:10.28 | ckknight | well, due to the raid members changing a lot of data has to be refreshed |
| 10:10.31 | abbat_w | ckk, i test it. I run BG all days and can test it |
| 10:10.31 | syeren | A lot of people are experience an issue where when they zone in BG, it can sometimes freeze for upto 5 minutes. |
| 10:10.37 | ckknight | Diao: UnitIsDeadOrGohst |
| 10:10.39 | ckknight | Ghost* |
| 10:10.50 | Diao | oh |
| 10:10.52 | syeren | You can still move your mouse and stuff, but you can't do anything in game as it has completely frozen. |
| 10:10.53 | ckknight | syeren: ouch. |
| 10:10.59 | syeren | And all units in the game are "Unknown." |
| 10:11.00 | ckknight | hrm |
| 10:11.02 | Diao | but it doesn't update properly when people release in tk instance? o_O |
| 10:11.04 | abbat_w | up to 5 min??? |
| 10:11.06 | Diao | blizzard api problem? |
| 10:11.07 | nevcairiel | its not only BG, its people logging in while being in any raid |
| 10:11.07 | abbat_w | never have this |
| 10:11.11 | syeren | And according to task manager, WoW is taking up 100% processing. |
| 10:11.12 | ckknight | syeren: okay, if that's the case, then I blame Blizz |
| 10:11.18 | ckknight | not any addons |
| 10:11.18 | syeren | Oki Doki. |
| 10:11.28 | SunTiger | still a fucked up thing to happen. |
| 10:11.41 | abbat_w | So, this is blizzard problems |
| 10:11.55 | ckknight | I do believe that Blizz should be notified |
| 10:11.58 | abbat_w | Do you remember some time ago blizzard fix problem like this |
| 10:12.14 | syeren | If you scroll up ckknight, you will find a conversation between a lot of us saying it has happened. |
| 10:12.26 | ckknight | I'm sorry, I have a headache and am busy |
| 10:12.31 | syeren | And of course since 2.1, there is the raid problem where people simply can't log in if they're in a raid group. |
| 10:12.36 | CIA-22 | 03daviesh * r38420 10AtlasLoot/Core/LootButtons.lua: |
| 10:12.36 | CIA-22 | AtlasLoot: |
| 10:12.36 | CIA-22 | - Further button click refinement |
| 10:12.37 | syeren | As it just freezes them completely out of the game. |
| 10:12.46 | nevcairiel | yeah we have to kick alot of people when they accidently have to relog |
| 10:12.51 | nevcairiel | and invite them back when they are online again |
| 10:13.01 | nevcairiel | (but never happend for me tho) |
| 10:13.14 | syeren | It's nevere happened for me, I have only experienced the BG one a few times. |
| 10:13.23 | abbat_w | ok, what about disconnect after invite in raid in disconnect every time at logon. Way to logon - ask to kick you from raid |
| 10:13.32 | Hjalte | I had "the raid problem" back when i was using discord for my UI. |
| 10:13.36 | syeren | The strange thing is when it happens, if I am on vent with anyone in that Bg, they tend to say the exact same thing is happening to them. |
| 10:13.39 | [Ammo] | I haven't had the problem |
| 10:13.44 | syeren | "I've entered BG but it's completely froze." |
| 10:13.44 | syeren | ;p |
| 10:14.04 | abbat_w | syeren, it can happened if you enter bg which already finished ;) |
| 10:14.12 | syeren | Nah, this is the start of BG :p |
| 10:14.19 | syeren | I've been AVFK'ing over the last few days. |
| 10:14.19 | syeren | :p |
| 10:14.28 | abbat_w | you be frozen, can't do anything for 3 minutes. then you force quit bg ;) |
| 10:14.49 | syeren | Here's the best part of it, it queues your actions. |
| 10:14.49 | nevcairiel | i wish i could test that with BGs that easily |
| 10:14.53 | nevcairiel | long waiting time for me :( |
| 10:15.12 | abbat_w | But ok, i use PitBull and run BGs. If i see something wrong - i told you |
| 10:15.15 | syeren | Like when I enter BG the first thing I press is Z for Fear Ward, so I entered that BG and froze while I pressed Z. |
| 10:15.29 | syeren | I closed WoW after a minute, and my friend goes "You just fear warded yourself." |
| 10:15.31 | abbat_w | long time? we have instant queues at Warosng |
| 10:15.38 | syeren | "WoW isn't even open on my PC." |
| 10:15.58 | syeren | The only issue with Pitbull and -combat has been hopefully resolved now :P |
| 10:16.03 | nevcairiel | there have been funnier bugs tho |
| 10:16.04 | syeren | Otherwise it has no issues ;p |
| 10:16.16 | nevcairiel | i remember the one where you got mindcontroled from talking to a specific npc |
| 10:16.19 | nevcairiel | that was great =P |
| 10:17.07 | Chompers | hacks |
| 10:17.49 | syeren | [Ammo] / ckknight, do you think it will be likely that Blizzard will fix some of the macro issues they created next Tuesday? |
| 10:18.01 | nevcairiel | what macro issues? :o |
| 10:18.08 | ckknight | possible |
| 10:18.13 | syeren | http://forums.wow-europe.com/thread.html?topicId=83118355&sid=1&pageNo=22 |
| 10:18.23 | syeren | Look at my post on that thread nevcairiel. |
| 10:18.51 | syeren | I can't actually have my /cast [target=Eloo-target,harm] Dispel Magic macro anywhere on my UI, or it causes huge amounts of spam errors. |
| 10:19.54 | nevcairiel | i am not sure using an actual name and the target postfix is even supported |
| 10:20.27 | abbat_w | hm... |
| 10:20.56 | abbat_w | target=Eloo-target - this mean macro target Eloo (party member) target? |
| 10:21.16 | Chum | if I have a bartender3 bar hid, can I still bind the action buttons to a key? |
| 10:21.23 | Chum | as long as I keep it enabled |
| 10:21.28 | nevcairiel | yes you can |
| 10:21.31 | Chum | awesome |
| 10:21.32 | nevcairiel | hidden is ok |
| 10:21.35 | Chum | ^_^ |
| 10:21.38 | nevcairiel | disable it, and it stops working |
| 10:21.47 | Chum | yup! |
| 10:21.49 | Chum | thanks nevcairiel! |
| 10:21.50 | syeren | I basically use that macro in Arena/Bg, it dispels Eloo's current target if they are harmful to us. |
| 10:21.59 | syeren | And I don't have to target that person or anything :) |
| 10:22.04 | Chum | hrm? |
| 10:22.30 | abbat_w | syeren, syntax is <nickname>-targe? |
| 10:22.34 | abbat_w | syeren, syntax is <nickname>-target? |
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| 10:22.43 | syeren | It used to be, until Blizzard broke it in 2.1 |
| 10:23.04 | abbat_w | heh, our shaman need this macro i think |
| 10:23.10 | syeren | Now even if I don't press the macro, it spams me with errors with it just being on my Action Bars anywhere. |
| 10:23.36 | syeren | Yes, it's very useful for any classes with dispel / burst potential in the arena; the only problem is it currently isn't working due to Blizzard. |
| 10:23.51 | abbat_w | i think blizz fix it |
| 10:23.54 | syeren | And it isn't an exploit or anything, Blizzard actually provided it. |
| 10:24.02 | abbat_w | but i never read about new targets in macros |
| 10:24.09 | syeren | There are lots O_o; |
| 10:24.11 | abbat_w | which patch add this functionality? |
| 10:24.16 | nevcairiel | 2.0 |
| 10:24.16 | syeren | Like [target=party1target] |
| 10:24.24 | abbat_w | i mean syntax <nick>-tagret |
| 10:24.24 | syeren | Or [target=focus] |
| 10:24.30 | syeren | 2.0 still. |
| 10:25.15 | Laricwork | does [target=<name>] work in 2.1? |
| 10:25.15 | abbat_w | 2.0 add target=focus but not nickname? |
| 10:25.15 | abbat_w | or i'm wrong? |
| 10:25.15 | nevcairiel | 2.0 added all that new macro syntax |
| 10:25.16 | syeren | So it came along in 2.0, and Blizzard let everyone know about it, so it is no form of exploit :) |
| 10:25.22 | abbat_w | hmm... /cast [target=<nick>] don't work for me |
| 10:25.43 | abbat_w | i remember i try this at Nef for decurse MT |
| 10:25.52 | Laricwork | hmm |
| 10:25.56 | nevcairiel | only works for party/raid members i believe |
| 10:25.59 | abbat_w | And wow told about 'unknown target' |
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| 10:26.10 | syeren | You still did Nef after 2.0 O_o;? |
| 10:26.23 | abbat_w | /cast [target=Magga] Remove Lesser Curse |
| 10:26.31 | nevcairiel | there was a time between 2.0 and actual BC |
| 10:26.37 | abbat_w | yep |
| 10:26.45 | abbat_w | this don't work in 2.0 |
| 10:26.56 | abbat_w | Magga is a nickname of our mt |
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| 10:27.00 | syeren | Yes, but 2.0 pretty much destroyed PVE unless you had KT on farm or was close :p |
| 10:27.05 | Laricwork | .. /cast [target="Magga"] Remove Lesser Curse does that work? |
| 10:27.06 | syeren | /cast [target=Playername] Dispel Magic will always work. |
| 10:27.21 | abbat_w | In 2.1 this work |
| 10:27.46 | syeren | Well I, and players whom I speak to have had this macro working since TBC came out. |
| 10:28.03 | syeren | I got the macro from Vhell of Power Trip, who used to rely on it for offensive dispeling of BoP / BoF. |
| 10:28.07 | abbat_w | heh, anyway great feature to target by name |
| 10:28.18 | syeren | It is, I just hope they fix it :) |
| 10:28.24 | abbat_w | syeren, yep, for dispel bop/bof ;) |
| 10:28.43 | syeren | We had our mage / warlock have it for Fire Blast /Shadowburn if the target was low :) |
| 10:28.49 | Laricwork | a place where it would be nice with a regrowth macro is on the epic drooood quest |
| 10:29.01 | abbat_w | syeren, do you have any another good macros? :) |
| 10:29.14 | nevcairiel | for hotting the stupid birds? |
| 10:29.18 | nevcairiel | i just kept a rejuv on them |
| 10:29.21 | nevcairiel | no real issue |
| 10:29.43 | syeren | Abbat, I guess your mage already uses... |
| 10:29.47 | syeren | /stopcasting |
| 10:29.50 | abbat_w | sure |
| 10:29.55 | abbat_w | and cs on focus |
| 10:29.58 | syeren | Yes :p |
| 10:29.59 | abbat_w | and sheep on focus |
| 10:30.29 | Chum | and chocolate chips on focus |
| 10:30.37 | abbat_w | =) |
| 10:30.53 | abbat_w | I think focus - it's much great feature of wow |
| 10:31.07 | syeren | Otherwise, no, there is no really good macros out that I can think of ;p |
| 10:31.13 | abbat_w | i mean focus frame and cast system |
| 10:31.31 | nevcairiel | does the default UI provide a focus frame? |
| 10:31.41 | CIA-22 | 03jerry * r38421 10PitBull/PitBull.lua: PitBull: minor bugfix so that frames are indeed created if needed after combat. |
| 10:32.07 | abbat_w | Hmm.. dont's sure |
| 10:32.09 | Diao | don't think so |
| 10:32.11 | nevcairiel | oh that reminds me, ckknight: when i login with agUF in combat, i get frames, with PitBull i dont, why is that? |
| 10:32.27 | Fisker- | http://www.supuzzle.com/ <-this puzzle sucks |
| 10:32.30 | Diao | prevent taint? |
| 10:32.36 | Diao | </random guess> |
| 10:32.53 | Diao | it's impossible fisker |
| 10:32.54 | Jaxon | Fisker-: that puzzle isn't possible in a 2d environment |
| 10:33.05 | Diao | k3,3 is a non-planar bipartite graph |
| 10:33.10 | Fisker- | sure it is |
| 10:33.35 | Fisker- | Cause you don't need to connect the houses in a star-topology |
| 10:33.44 | Diao | o_O? |
| 10:33.52 | Fisker- | i.e. need 3 lines to each house |
| 10:33.52 | Diao | what? |
| 10:33.58 | Fisker- | 1 line to all 3 houses would be sufficient |
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| 10:34.10 | Diao | err |
| 10:34.25 | Diao | what |
| 10:34.34 | Chum | this game is awesome though: http://www.crazymonkeygames.com/Boxhead-2Play-Rooms.html |
| 10:35.01 | Diao | Aim2: Connect all 3 houses to the water, eletricity and gas suppliers without crossing any lines. |
| 10:35.40 | nevcairiel | its not possible |
| 10:36.12 | Fisker- | Of course it is, because the analogy is flawed |
| 10:36.48 | Fisker- | They should make it about the real problem instead "Connect 3 points to 3 other points without touching another line" |
| 10:37.09 | Fisker- | You don't do el, water and gas supplies by connecting all houses to one central point |
| 10:37.14 | nevcairiel | even then, show me the graph that makes it possible |
| 10:37.28 | Diao | lol |
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| 10:40.02 | abbat_w | btw guys i found that many ppl uses eePanels for making nice looking panels under action bars. how many memory uses eePanels in this case? |
| 10:40.08 | nevcairiel | that puzzle is not solvable, even if the analogy is wrong :) |
| 10:40.58 | Fisker- | Actually it is, because in any normal situation a water supply would go from house to house |
| 10:41.07 | Diao | >.> |
| 10:41.10 | Fisker- | not from water-supply to house, from water-supply to house, from water supply to house |
| 10:41.16 | Diao | picking on the analogy |
| 10:41.17 | nevcairiel | that thing is not about real work |
| 10:41.22 | nevcairiel | its about the puzzle itself |
| 10:41.25 | Fisker- | i know |
| 10:41.34 | Fisker- | And they're trying to use an analogy that doesn't fit at all |
| 10:42.07 | nevcairiel | what if the water source would be in the center, and the houses like a triangle around it? i think you would create 3 pipes from the source. |
| 10:42.21 | Diao | lol |
| 10:42.28 | Diao | or |
| 10:42.34 | Diao | rename the houses "neighborhoods" |
| 10:43.13 | Fisker- | or just use a better analogy alltogether :P |
| 10:43.16 | Diao | cause obviously you don't put a utility in the middle of a neighborhood :P |
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| 10:47.04 | Chum | AHHH SPLASH DMG SUCKS! |
| 10:47.50 | Stephmw | shouldn't you be further away? |
| 10:50.22 | Chum | i attempted to be further away.. |
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| 10:51.35 | Punkie` | Fisker-: I cheated and won |
| 10:52.58 | Chum | cheater |
| 10:52.59 | Chum | :P |
| 10:53.10 | Fisker- | haha |
| 10:53.11 | Fisker- | i won! |
| 10:53.16 | Fisker- | me too Punkie` :P |
| 10:53.49 | Fisker- | but i didn't cheat |
| 10:54.09 | Fisker- | http://www.developersdevelopersdevelopers.dk/omgwinnar.JPG |
| 10:54.49 | Fisker- | I don't know what's more stupid, that it's bugged or that the people who wrote it actually had a win scenario in it |
| 10:54.55 | Diao | lol |
| 10:55.00 | Diao | i was gonna say |
| 10:55.03 | Diao | you crossed a couple lines obviously o_O |
| 10:55.11 | Diao | but behind the little icon so i guess it's bugged |
| 10:55.24 | Fisker- | actually the only thing i did was make the electric line go through the gas line |
| 10:55.32 | Fisker- | as the check can bug sometimes |
| 10:55.43 | Diao | yeah that's what i meant |
| 10:55.45 | Punkie` | Fisker-: Yeah that's cheating |
| 10:55.53 | Punkie` | just right click over a line or something |
| 10:55.56 | Punkie` | and you can continue |
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| 10:59.39 | CIA-22 | 03sayclub * r38422 10Babble-2.2/Babble-Spell-2.2/Babble-Spell-2.2.lua: Babble-2.2: - Spell : koKR update |
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| 11:13.35 | Elkano | ok... seeing lvl 70 chars posting about the new ui designer and knowing that it's a trojan can make you eally sad :/ |
| 11:14.30 | nevcairiel | lol |
| 11:15.05 | Stephmw | meh, 70 doesn't mean much during the summer holidays |
| 11:16.39 | Droolio | is that new 'wow ui designer'? |
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| 11:17.20 | Elkano | Droolio, yes... we checked that file a few hours ago and it's confirmed being a trojan |
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| 11:19.23 | boobies4u | guys |
| 11:19.41 | boobies4u | is there any mods that will tell you in the combat log how much damage Unstable affliction did on dispell? |
| 11:19.44 | boobies4u | if you are a warlock |
| 11:20.08 | evl | lol clossss! |
| 11:20.23 | Kazie | boobies4u: It should do that on default |
| 11:20.29 | boobies4u | it doesent |
| 11:20.43 | Fin | sylvanaar: hey! |
| 11:20.57 | Kazie | Then you have some addon/mod that conflicts with the combat log i think |
| 11:20.58 | nevcairiel | for some reason, my return and esc keys stopped working |
| 11:21.08 | nevcairiel | good that i have that second return on the numpad |
| 11:21.10 | nevcairiel | but wtf |
| 11:21.12 | Kazie | Try removing all your custom addons and duel a priest to check |
| 11:21.24 | boobies4u | Kazie i use simple combat log mod |
| 11:21.35 | evl | simplecombatlog perhaps |
| 11:21.39 | evl | not exactly updated :) |
| 11:21.39 | Diao | maybe its not capturing the event |
| 11:21.54 | Kazie | boobies4u: everything is possible.. but as i said.. try removing all addons and duel a priest to let him dispel it. |
| 11:22.26 | boobies4u | are there a better combat log mod? |
| 11:22.32 | boobies4u | and to enable it, what is the event called? |
| 11:22.42 | boobies4u | what tracking do i need to enable in it to make it show it |
| 11:22.43 | Kazie | Your spell dmg |
| 11:22.44 | Fin | SCL rules |
| 11:23.13 | MikkZzz | bloody supuzzle |
| 11:23.14 | sylvanaar | Fin hey |
| 11:23.24 | MikkZzz | something from the hazy depths of my education tells me that's not solveable |
| 11:23.38 | nevcairiel | haha |
| 11:23.42 | nevcairiel | yeah its not mikk |
| 11:24.06 | evl | Fin: SCL isn't very updated :P |
| 11:24.09 | Fin | sylvanaar: nice to see you on IRC at least :) |
| 11:24.28 | MikkZzz | nevcairiel: thanks. now i can stop trying :-P |
| 11:24.31 | Fin | evl: true, but it's still about 50x better than the default combat log :) |
| 11:24.44 | Fin | sylvanaar: hope the holiday went well |
| 11:24.52 | Mikk | Btw http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=6533.0 <- input pl0x |
| 11:25.00 | sylvanaar | Fin thanks, figured, i'd hang out for a bit - im between vacations atm |
| 11:25.10 | Mikk | haha |
| 11:25.14 | Mikk | between vacations |
| 11:25.25 | Fin | nice |
| 11:25.54 | sylvanaar | mikk, yeah next one is london/madrid in 2-3 weeks |
| 11:26.52 | evl | Woot |
| 11:26.57 | evl | Portugal for 3 weeks from saturday |
| 11:27.28 | Mikk | (my mother-in-law is celebrating her 60th birthday and invited a bunch of us) |
| 11:28.19 | sylvanaar | greece sounds nice |
| 11:31.08 | Mikk | nice little village on the north coast of crete... not too horribly commercial |
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| 11:31.24 | Mikk | at least it wasn't when i was there last |
| 11:31.26 | Mikk | but that was a while ago :S |
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| 11:32.18 | sylvanaar | ah, that reminds me - need to call switzerland....i am not having luck with one of the numbers...are any of you swiss? |
| 11:33.41 | SunTiger | non |
| 11:34.04 | Azurewrath | some guildies are.. let me log in and check |
| 11:34.24 | Stephmw | sylvanaar: +41 code is all I can remember |
| 11:34.54 | sylvanaar | yeah, i got that part, but the number i dial comes back quickly saying out of service (in english) |
| 11:35.04 | sylvanaar | so im not doing it right |
| 11:35.20 | Mikk | not stripping off the leading 0? |
| 11:35.26 | sylvanaar | i can dial swiss 0800 prefixes |
| 11:35.46 | Chum | 011-41-rest of number |
| 11:35.51 | sylvanaar | but 031 - no worky |
| 11:36.01 | Mikk | +41 31 rest of number |
| 11:36.09 | sylvanaar | ok, lets see |
| 11:36.15 | Mikk | not +41 031 rest of number |
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| 11:38.27 | vhaarr | "loking for a alcholomist" |
| 11:38.34 | JoshBorke | GD CLEARALLPOINTS! |
| 11:39.35 | Fisker- | :( |
| 11:39.55 | JoshBorke | kergoth: i fixed the problem i was having :-/ |
| 11:40.35 | nevcairiel | and whats so sad-smiley about that? :o |
| 11:40.50 | [Ammo] | it took him 3 weekes? |
| 11:40.52 | [Ammo] | weeks even |
| 11:40.54 | [Ammo] | :) |
| 11:40.54 | JoshBorke | it was a REALLY stupid mistake that wasn't even a function of the library |
| 11:40.55 | nevcairiel | heh |
| 11:41.10 | JoshBorke | and it took me 3 weeks |
| 11:41.13 | Ominous | what lod stubs are there atm, |
| 11:41.25 | nevcairiel | forkliftgnome |
| 11:41.26 | nevcairiel | or so |
| 11:42.06 | evl | ForkLiftGnome is ClosetGnome for fat people? |
| 11:42.12 | nevcairiel | yu |
| 11:42.15 | nevcairiel | yup |
| 11:42.19 | vhaarr | haha |
| 11:42.31 | vhaarr | that would be a fair assumption, I guess |
| 11:42.37 | nevcairiel | s/fat people/dwarves/ |
| 11:42.56 | Borked|Raider | i got some crazy problem. Using this rdx addon, when i try to promote somone to maintank it just say the addon have been blocked and then i can disable adn reload ui. But my friend using same addon and same version, and he dont have the problem |
| 11:42.58 | vhaarr | hey! we're not fat, we just drink lots of beer. |
| 11:43.00 | JoshBorke | s/fat people/tauren/ |
| 11:43.07 | sylvanaar | yeah, Denmark - no problem - switzerland - still cant get through |
| 11:43.16 | vhaarr | Borked|Raider: People still use RDX? |
| 11:43.28 | Borked|Raider | vhaarr |
| 11:43.29 | Borked|Raider | yes |
| 11:43.36 | vhaarr | have fun with that |
| 11:43.37 | Borked|Raider | its only getting better |
| 11:43.44 | Elkano | I'm off to my Japanese lession so burn in hell guys... |
| 11:43.55 | Borked|Raider | RDX6 vhaarr , you cant compair it with the old rdx |
| 11:43.56 | Fisker- | lession? |
| 11:43.57 | Mikk | Borked|Raider: Probably some OTHER addon screwing stuff up. Have fun disabling/reenabling till you find it |
| 11:43.59 | Elkano | ...uhm... I ment: cya l8ers |
| 11:44.01 | Fisker- | What about you learn some ENGLISH FIRST?! |
| 11:44.01 | nevcairiel | you might want to talk to Shirik in #wowi-lounge about that Borked|Raider |
| 11:44.19 | Borked|Raider | nevcairiel, whos he? |
| 11:44.25 | nevcairiel | RDX guy |
| 11:44.27 | nevcairiel | :) |
| 11:44.30 | Borked|Raider | Mikk, ye i been doing that and with no luck :P |
| 11:44.45 | vhaarr | you might want to get support from the people you pay money to, instead of asking in a channel that supports open source and collaboration |
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| 11:44.47 | Borked|Raider | nevcairiel, ok dont remmeber the nick from rdx forum so |
| 11:44.54 | Elkano | Fisker-: extra letters are only small presents for you... |
| 11:45.03 | Fisker- | :( |
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| 11:45.08 | Elkano | missing ones are charged on your bill... |
| 11:45.12 | Borked|Raider | vhaarr, shh i guess you dont like the thing aobut its not free :PPPPP |
| 11:45.24 | vhaarr | that's right |
| 11:45.38 | Chum | i need a good FPS.. |
| 11:45.43 | syeren | Rabbit owns :) |
| 11:45.44 | Chum | fps game rather.. |
| 11:46.02 | Elkano | Chum, free one? AAO:SF? |
| 11:46.09 | Borked|Raider | vhaarr, no one is asking you do use it. But my problem might have been a general problem and not related to rdx. Pitbull do it aswell |
| 11:46.10 | Chum | aao:sf? wtf |
| 11:46.18 | Elkano | or get HL² and try some mods |
| 11:46.21 | Chum | you're makin' that up. |
| 11:46.33 | Borked|Raider | but vhaarr, i get your point. |
| 11:46.38 | Elkano | aao:sf -> America's Army:Special Foreces |
| 11:46.38 | Chum | hopefully one that is multiplayer |
| 11:46.50 | vhaarr | if you did, you wouldn't be using it |
| 11:47.35 | JoshBorke | why is cartographer using more CPU time than my action buttons? |
| 11:47.42 | vodrin | getting someones point and agreeing with it is different =p |
| 11:47.53 | CIA-22 | 03celellach * r38423 10AtlasLoot/Bossnames/bossnames.en.lua: |
| 11:47.53 | CIA-22 | AtlasLoot: |
| 11:47.53 | CIA-22 | - Fixed typo for Kel'Thuzad. |
| 11:47.55 | Elkano | well, leaving... |
| 11:48.15 | Borked|Raider | well, then i can understand him. But i dont share his point. |
| 11:48.31 | Mikk | JoshBorke: Cause your action buttons kick ass? :-P |
| 11:48.50 | JoshBorke | Mikk: i'll be sure to tell Tuller that :-) |
| 11:49.01 | JoshBorke | nevcairiel: BT3 kicks ass |
| 11:49.05 | Borked|Raider | But still, pitbull have also been blocked when trying to promote to maintank for a friend, but not for me |
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| 11:49.47 | vhaarr | JoshBorke: Cartographer uses enormous amounts of CPU power while you're not inside an instance, because it wants to update potential minimap icons (herbalism, mining, etc) to your current location. |
| 11:50.42 | vhaarr | JoshBorke: And it has a fairly expensive OnUpdate running to that effect. |
| 11:50.42 | vhaarr | Someone should redesign it. |
| 11:50.42 | Fisker- | hmm |
| 11:50.47 | Borked|Raider | agree on that, tho i still use it as it have some nice features |
| 11:50.54 | Fisker- | anyone know what exploit it was that caused people to be able and buy more arena rewards than they were entitled to? |
| 11:51.05 | Borked|Raider | lol :P |
| 11:51.10 | Gnarfoz | Fisker-: i'd like that xD |
| 11:51.45 | Borked|Raider | fisker, wasent it just some temp fuckup in the code? not some ui bug? |
| 11:51.47 | Gnarfoz | anyone using irssi/irssiproxy/screen and experienced irssi putting weird prefixes before each line of chat? (+ and -) |
| 11:51.55 | Fisker- | no Borked|Raider :o |
| 11:51.57 | krka | nope |
| 11:52.02 | Borked|Raider | ha |
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| 11:52.05 | Fisker- | There are atleast some people being pissed about getting them removed again |
| 11:52.05 | Fisker- | :D |
| 11:52.09 | krka | irssi just outputs what i type |
| 11:52.10 | Borked|Raider | :P |
| 11:52.11 | Borked|Raider | ok |
| 11:52.37 | Fisker- | HI Shinchan, |
| 11:52.37 | Fisker- | This issue here is not that we cannot locate your items and enchants, it is that we are unwilling to assist you further. You exploited a temporary bug on our servers to purchase an item which you were not entitled to, and now you must reap the consequences of your actions. |
| 11:52.37 | Fisker- | For further details on our Exploitation Policies, please refer to: |
| 11:52.41 | Borked|Raider | well, kinda like vasjh, they removed the button to set loot thing to common but the function are still there :P |
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| 11:54.17 | JoshBorke | vhaarr: sure, but do they have to run every single frame or could they process every 0.1 seconds? |
| 11:54.48 | vhaarr | JoshBorke: I really had no doing in designing cartographer, I just identified that as a source of its CPU usage when I looked through it quickly a few weeks ago. |
| 11:55.03 | Fisker- | aaah |
| 11:55.07 | Fisker- | still 4 days until my ban expires |
| 11:55.11 | Fisker- | *sulk* |
| 11:55.21 | [Ammo] | it could probably update less when you're moving less |
| 11:55.23 | vodrin | what are you banned for =-o |
| 11:55.38 | Fisker- | "rickrolling" |
| 11:55.56 | Fisker- | If you can call it rickrolling :< |
| 11:56.04 | nevcairiel | what did you do ? :p |
| 11:56.15 | Fisker- | I made a new guild and made a page on wowwiki |
| 11:56.21 | Fisker- | and our guildmotto was Rickrolling |
| 11:56.25 | Fisker- | got banned for that :( |
| 11:56.34 | Fisker- | because i linked the wiki |
| 11:56.34 | vhaarr | haha |
| 11:56.38 | Fisker- | with the rickrolling motto |
| 11:57.10 | Fisker- | Actually kinda stupid given that anyone could've made the page like that |
| 11:57.26 | Fisker- | Say someone links a wiki, and i blank it with a rickroll and report the OP for rickrolling |
| 11:57.30 | Fisker- | how stupid is that? :o |
| 11:57.30 | vhaarr | rickrolling and duckrolling are so silly concepts, they're not even funny |
| 11:57.36 | Gnarfoz | trolling gets you banned, haha |
| 11:58.00 | harldephin | i really wonder about something.. if i hide the whole UI, my FPS peak up like whoo.. but with the UI enabled it drops down to 15-30 |
| 11:58.07 | Hjalte | On this picture https://home.comcast.net/~rdkampen/TestUI.jpg how did he move his fubar panels to where they are? - And shorten them? |
| 11:58.15 | nevcairiel | hidden frames dont run OnUpdates |
| 11:58.18 | harldephin | must've something to do with all the frames and alpha blending stuff |
| 11:58.22 | nevcairiel | and there your performance goes :) |
| 11:58.39 | JoshBorke | Hjalte: detached then resize using the sword |
| 11:58.40 | harldephin | hm |
| 11:58.43 | Fisker- | yeah |
| 11:58.51 | Fisker- | and disabled the text on the panels |
| 11:59.33 | Hjalte | JoshBorke, sword? |
| 11:59.47 | vodrin | hover the left/right edges of the fubar |
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| 12:00.16 | Hjalte | Ah, i see. Thanks. Didnt see that before, for some reason. |
| 12:00.29 | harldephin | i guess, if i could minimize all the frame clutter somehow if would greatly improve graphical performance |
| 12:00.44 | harldephin | if=it |
| 12:04.18 | Borked|Raider | Posible to make a function that return the unit of the target that the mouse is over, want to make a recording tool that puts all UnitName(unit) into a table of what hte mouse is over, just not sure whats the best way to do so? |
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| 12:04.54 | Borked|Raider | having a funtion running each .1 sec to check for mouseover target ? or are there some better way that actuly only call the funtion when the mouseover target change |
| 12:05.19 | vhaarr | UPDATE_MOUSEOVER_TARGET, or something. |
| 12:05.30 | Borked|Raider | ahh |
| 12:05.52 | Hjalte | Can anyone give me a good explanation why i always seem to loose my selfadded channels when relogging or exiting the game? |
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| 12:06.07 | Borked|Raider | thats also fired when moving the mouse over friendly target ui boxes ect right? |
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| 12:07.15 | Borked|Raider | There arent any other way then UnitClassification(unit) == "worldboss" to check if a unit is a boss right |
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| 12:08.29 | vhaarr | No, that's it. |
| 12:08.33 | Ins- | unitlevel? |
| 12:09.11 | Fisker- | http://img.4chan.org/b/src/1180958403790.jpg |
| 12:09.30 | Borked|Raider | UPDATE_MOUSEOVER_UNIT |
| 12:13.11 | Mikk | Fisker-: Banned from where? |
| 12:13.38 | CIA-22 | 03arkayenro * r38424 10ArkInventory/ (12 files in 2 dirs): |
| 12:13.38 | CIA-22 | ArkInventory: |
| 12:13.38 | CIA-22 | - v1.40 |
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| 12:19.05 | evl | http://img.4chan.org/b/src/1180958403790.jpg |
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| 12:21.36 | Chum | lol @ evl |
| 12:21.36 | Fisker- | fu Chum you stoelz my link |
| 12:21.36 | Fisker- | Mikk the eu forums :( |
| 12:21.36 | Hjalte | Meh. This kind of sucks. My guild wants to do Doomwalker and i just absolutely messed up my UI because i'm remodelling it :P |
| 12:21.36 | Fisker- | by chum i mean evl of course |
| 12:21.37 | Gngsk | evl, you'rea rogue right? |
| 12:21.45 | evl | Gngsk: YARR |
| 12:21.51 | evl | Fisker-: sorry, i lol'ed so hard I forgot |
| 12:22.01 | evl | Fisker-: Here's a gold, go talk to someone that /CAREZ |
| 12:22.17 | phyber | Hjalte: Do not proceed, you will be eliminated! |
| 12:22.25 | evl | phyber: you are not prepared. |
| 12:22.32 | Fisker- | ::( |
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| 12:24.44 | phyber | someone must have been raiding that guy on BloodhoofEU last night. Every few minutes he was spamming that. |
| 12:24.57 | phyber | I assume it's either once for every death, or once for each person engaging him. |
| 12:25.16 | phyber | spamming = 25-30 times in a row. |
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| 12:27.27 | Fisker- | http://forums.wow-europe.com/thread.html?topicId=288840728&sid=1 <-sigh, wtb people with a bit knowledge of the game mechanics |
| 12:27.47 | kenlyric | Fisker-: that ruins the fun. |
| 12:29.08 | Fisker- | if only i had access to the forums right now so i could rip them a new one |
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| 12:30.13 | kenlyric | watching the video, I do see what they mean. |
| 12:30.22 | nevcairiel | its a known bug with ferals |
| 12:30.29 | nevcairiel | blizz never botherd to fix it |
| 12:30.33 | kenlyric | I just assume that rogues ahve smaller hit boxes too, or it is indeed a bug. |
| 12:30.35 | Chompers | anyone tried out the new darkmoon cards? |
| 12:30.52 | evl | Chompers: I know this may come as a shock but they suck. |
| 12:31.12 | nevcairiel | i havent seen one single card yet |
| 12:31.12 | vodrin- | lies lies lies |
| 12:31.14 | kenlyric | evl: NOOOOOOO |
| 12:31.16 | vodrin- | crusade card owns |
| 12:31.18 | Chompers | i quite like my wrath card |
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| 12:31.28 | Chompers | *trinket |
| 12:31.32 | kenlyric | thankfully there's no card for healers, again. |
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| 12:31.40 | vodrin- | like blue dragon |
| 12:31.47 | nevcairiel | hey the mana reg card wasnt too bad. |
| 12:31.49 | Fisker- | "known bug" nevcairiel? |
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| 12:32.03 | Fisker- | You suggest that they should be able to hit people without them being able to hit back? |
| 12:32.25 | nevcairiel | if i can hit in caster form at that distance, why cant i in feral? |
| 12:32.35 | grzesieq | tauren? |
| 12:32.37 | Fisker- | because your hitbox is bigger in caster form |
| 12:32.55 | grzesieq | taurens have bigger hitbox and thus increased range |
| 12:33.05 | Ominous | if you have x = { "a", "b", "c", [4] = nil, [5] = "d"} will #x return 3 or 4 |
| 12:33.09 | nevcairiel | a nightelf rogue probably has the same hitbox as a nightelf druid in caster form |
| 12:33.24 | Roartindon | Ominous: 3 |
| 12:33.34 | nevcairiel | dunno how far tauren warriors can hit |
| 12:33.40 | nevcairiel | never played a damn cow =P |
| 12:33.44 | Fisker- | and what does the nightelf druid has to do with it?` |
| 12:33.55 | Roartindon | Ominous: > x = { "a", "b", "c", [4] = nil, [5] = "d"} |
| 12:33.55 | Roartindon | > print(#x) |
| 12:33.55 | Roartindon | 3 |
| 12:33.58 | Borked|Raider | wont #x return = ? |
| 12:33.59 | Fisker- | Taurens have a 9 yard melee range because their hitbox is that big it can be hit from a 9 yard range |
| 12:34.00 | Borked|Raider | 0 |
| 12:34.15 | Borked|Raider | dont # only work if all are index by 1,2,3,4,5 |
| 12:34.22 | Fisker- | All other races have a 5 yard melee range because their hitbox can only be hit from a 5 yard range |
| 12:34.36 | nevcairiel | it still sucks that you have to get closer to an enemy as a feral then a tauren warrior has to |
| 12:34.36 | Roartindon | the length of a table is defined as the first nil value - 1,... |
| 12:34.53 | Roartindon | ie.. # = n, where t[1..n-1] ~= nil |
| 12:35.08 | Fisker- | perhaps, but the real bug would still be if you could hit them, and they couldn't hit you |
| 12:35.20 | nevcairiel | so reduce tauren melee range |
| 12:35.21 | nevcairiel | :) |
| 12:35.31 | abbat_w | heh |
| 12:35.34 | Fisker- | then the above bug would exist |
| 12:35.50 | Fisker- | Where all can hit taurens from 9 yards, but taurens can't hit you from 9 yards |
| 12:35.56 | abbat_w | as i mage i can say what druid in cat form hit me in about 10 yards if we run |
| 12:36.07 | nevcairiel | and unify hitboxes for all player characters |
| 12:36.09 | abbat_w | undead mage and nightelf druid |
| 12:36.21 | Borked|Raider | ok Roartindon, answered some of the problems i have had earlier |
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| 12:36.48 | Borked|Raider | i started to use table.insert all the time :P |
| 12:37.33 | Fisker- | Well the only proper solution imo is to make so that the model fits a 5 yard hitbox, but if that can be done without severely breaking the properties of a tauren then that is a poor solution |
| 12:37.36 | phyber | everything in the game should be equal. You should have raids formed with people like GenericHero243, raiding the GenericMines. All trying to get [Generic Staff of Generic Stats]. All hitting each other for the same balanced damage. |
| 12:37.42 | Borked|Raider | about that, where would table.insert set in on a table { "a", "b", "c", [4] = nil, [5] = "d"} ? at the index 4 ? |
| 12:37.50 | kenlyric | phyber: blizzard is working on that. |
| 12:37.59 | Chum | blizzard hates you. |
| 12:38.06 | kenlyric | why do you think they continually nerf anything special in the game? |
| 12:38.37 | nevcairiel | i just hate that tauren warriors can hit me from insance distances when i run away from them |
| 12:38.38 | kenlyric | want an edge by buffing up to the max? too bad. |
| 12:38.41 | nevcairiel | while other classes cannot |
| 12:38.43 | nevcairiel | that sucks |
| 12:38.52 | kenlyric | want an edge by taming a rare pet? too bad. |
| 12:39.13 | Chum | the only edge anyone will get is getting that epic gear.. |
| 12:39.23 | kenlyric | and it's all the same. |
| 12:39.40 | Chum | well if you have lvl 70 epic gear, and I have lvl 61-70 greens. |
| 12:39.52 | Chum | and we both play equally well on our characters.. |
| 12:39.55 | Chum | chances are, you will win. |
| 12:40.13 | Chum | Unless you are extremely unlucky and get no crits, and I am extremely lucky and score all crits. (doubtful) |
| 12:40.25 | phyber | Chum: then you should make a post about Casuals and epics and people in better gear doing more damage than you, and in the next patch you can trade in some gray items from the level 6 boars outside Goldshire for a level 120 epic. |
| 12:40.43 | Punkie` | well tbh, even still |
| 12:40.57 | Punkie` | they nerfed the dificulty of Karazhan and it's a 10 man instance |
| 12:41.10 | nevcairiel | they even nerfed SSC |
| 12:41.14 | Chum | If someone spends their life in wow, and gets a badass epic.. Grats to them. |
| 12:41.14 | nevcairiel | its pretty boring in there now |
| 12:41.14 | Punkie` | so now casuals in epics are not hard to come by |
| 12:41.29 | Chum | If I casually play and get myself a blue set, then grats to me. |
| 12:41.33 | kenlyric | it was boring in there before, and I haven't even been there. |
| 12:41.48 | nevcairiel | maybe thats why |
| 12:42.25 | phyber | I got stuck in SSC. it was just a small empty room behind the waterfall! I must have soloed the place, but then I couldn't get out :( |
| 12:42.40 | Fisker- | I can't enter SSC |
| 12:42.44 | Fisker- | but i can exit it :D |
| 12:42.53 | Fisker- | by that i mean the waterfall of course |
| 12:43.03 | Dotted | hax |
| 12:43.20 | Fisker- | for some reason only the panel behind the waterfall is active for me |
| 12:43.23 | nevcairiel | it sucked when you couldnt even get out with a key |
| 12:43.32 | nevcairiel | but they added a panel there |
| 12:43.51 | Fisker- | i don't even get why they make these kinds of gates, doors, etc. |
| 12:43.54 | Fisker- | so useless |
| 12:43.58 | syeren | Nev, I was stook there for fucking 40 minutes while my Hearth was on cooldown. |
| 12:44.05 | nevcairiel | haha |
| 12:44.05 | syeren | I got so fucking angry. |
| 12:44.14 | syeren | Seeing Alliance players on the other side. |
| 12:44.19 | syeren | "Can you summon me out please?" |
| 12:44.34 | syeren | "no lol" |
| 12:44.34 | phyber | a) ask guild for a group with a warlock. b) ??? c) un-stuck! |
| 12:44.40 | syeren | Unstuck teleported you back into SSC. |
| 12:44.47 | syeren | It like bounced you off the Waterfall and back into the instance. |
| 12:44.55 | nevcairiel | b) get some guildy to sign you up for skirmish arena |
| 12:45.09 | sbu | use port-stone? |
| 12:45.13 | phyber | by un-stuck, I meant that the warlock had summoned you out ;) |
| 12:45.23 | Borked|Raider | <Fisker-> for some reason only the panel behind the waterfall is active for me it open it self when running to it |
| 12:45.56 | Fisker- | not for me :( |
| 12:46.39 | Fisker- | I remember going back from delivering the quest and wanted to try it out |
| 12:46.43 | Chum | I am watching videos of gods and heroes: rome rising |
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| 12:46.46 | kenlyric | for progression purposes, the only bosses you need to kill in karazhan are moroes, opera, curator, shade, and nightbane? |
| 12:46.55 | Fisker- | tried for a couple of minutes when i tried disabling all my addons, and then some other guys got there and opened for me |
| 12:47.07 | Josh_Borke | morning |
| 12:47.27 | Fisker- | why the opera and moroes? |
| 12:47.36 | Fisker- | oh right to open up for the backdoor |
| 12:47.40 | kenlyric | you need those to get to curator and shade |
| 12:47.54 | Fisker- | i guess so then |
| 12:48.21 | kenlyric | trying to make a case for "optional" bosses on our progression chart :) |
| 12:48.57 | kenlyric | since my "delete the whole thing" idea isn't gaining ground. |
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| 12:51.09 | CIA-22 | 03kagaro * r38425 10Cartographer_Treasure/Cartographer_Treasure.lua: Cartographer_Treasure: Fixed a typo in icon name |
| 12:52.44 | grzesieq | don't you need prince for nightbane quest? |
| 12:52.50 | kenlyric | nope |
| 12:52.51 | [Ammo] | yeah but only once |
| 12:52.53 | kenlyric | I just checked |
| 12:52.57 | [Ammo] | oh no |
| 12:52.58 | [Ammo] | you don't |
| 12:53.02 | [Ammo] | you need him for a separate quest |
| 12:53.06 | [Ammo] | you need to get past curator though |
| 12:53.06 | kenlyric | http://www.wowhead.com/?quest=9844 is the prince quest |
| 12:53.13 | [Ammo] | and do aran |
| 12:53.51 | Chum | [Ammo] is my best friend. |
| 12:55.58 | Chum | installing planetside. |
| 12:57.48 | SunTiger | planetside is evil |
| 12:57.54 | Chum | why is that? |
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| 13:00.18 | CIA-22 | Assessment |
| 13:00.18 | CIA-22 | - Changed the drag/resize code. All edges are now resizable. |
| 13:00.18 | CIA-22 | - Added default bar color option |
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| 13:06.08 | kenlyric | is the greying out of pw:shield a known blizzard bug, or a bartender bug? |
| 13:06.21 | nevcairiel | its a blizzard feature |
| 13:06.23 | cs-cam | that happens with bongos too |
| 13:06.32 | cs-cam | yes, "feature" |
| 13:06.39 | kenlyric | nevcairiel: no, the feature would be it only greying out when I can't cast it :) |
| 13:06.46 | cs-cam | with no off button |
| 13:07.07 | nevcairiel | well it works flawlessly for my spells which have that new behavious |
| 13:07.15 | nevcairiel | *behaviour |
| 13:07.44 | cryogen | is that the thing where it's greyed out when you arent targetting anything but can click it with auto-selfcast? |
| 13:08.12 | kenlyric | cryogen: right. |
| 13:08.19 | syeren | People play with action buttons on their screen ;/ |
| 13:08.21 | cryogen | yeah, interesting oversight |
| 13:08.34 | cryogen | 'cause if you target anyone(including yourself) it un-greys out |
| 13:08.46 | nevcairiel | i bet syeren is a rogue. |
| 13:08.53 | cryogen | clicking > RSI |
| 13:09.15 | syeren | nevcairiel: http://fabrikate.org/wow/WoWScrnShot_060407_080549.jpg |
| 13:09.18 | syeren | Clearly a rogue ;) |
| 13:09.29 | kenlyric | having buttons on your screen doesn't make you a clicker. |
| 13:09.51 | nevcairiel | i have buttons on my screen to see cooldowns |
| 13:09.53 | nevcairiel | and range. |
| 13:09.58 | kenlyric | besides that, I can't see why people get uppity about the way others choose to display their information. |
| 13:10.21 | nevcairiel | i use all my general healing spells with shortcuts |
| 13:10.30 | Fisker- | your opinions are wrong and you should feel bad |
| 13:10.31 | nevcairiel | i use combat res or innervate with mouse |
| 13:10.38 | Kazie | is there any addons to show a message like "Killing blow" in SCT .. for talent proccs? like Blackout for priests and stuff |
| 13:10.39 | Kazie | ? |
| 13:10.42 | kenlyric | I especially love that *syeren* of all people bitches about UI when his is so fucking ugly. |
| 13:10.43 | cryogen | personally i dont understand how people can play with things bound to every key and every modifier key |
| 13:10.47 | syeren | nevcairiel: http://fabrikate.org/wow/WoWScrnShot_060307_052343.jpg |
| 13:10.53 | syeren | kenlyric, I couldn't care less if it's prett. |
| 13:10.56 | syeren | *pretty |
| 13:10.58 | cryogen | like to do this i press control shift alt windows key right alt z! |
| 13:11.16 | syeren | As long as it is functional, and the information doesn't involve me looking through a ton of pointless bullshit like buttons, I'm happy. |
| 13:11.21 | nevcairiel | i like actually seeing alot of the 3d world |
| 13:11.23 | kenlyric | syeren, then why the fuck do you care if other people have buttons on their screen? You block out the entire field of vision? |
| 13:11.33 | kenlyric | -? |
| 13:11.33 | syeren | "OH SHIT AI NEED SKINNER TO MAKE THE BLACK PART OF MY SCREEN LOOK PRETTY." |
| 13:11.35 | nevcairiel | for bosses where you have to move alot, its quite imporant :D |
| 13:12.06 | syeren | nevcairiel, I use Apeture, I see the exact same there as if I didn't have a black part on my screen. |
| 13:12.08 | Chum | yeah ... |
| 13:12.16 | Chum | we arent talking about the viewport |
| 13:12.30 | Chum | like the black area of the screen, on the top or bottom.. who cares about that |
| 13:12.34 | Chum | I am talking about the center of your screen. |
| 13:12.40 | Chum | Its filled with garbage and other crap. |
| 13:12.48 | syeren | The center of my screen provides the information I need to PVP with. |
| 13:12.54 | Chum | that big? |
| 13:13.06 | syeren | Unfortunately I am not someone who finds PVE entertaining, and I need to know with priority if someone has debuffs on them. |
| 13:13.06 | Chum | Are you blind? |
| 13:13.07 | syeren | Yes :p |
| 13:13.24 | nevcairiel | ive my group dispay disabled for one, its only redundant information if i have raid display on. |
| 13:13.48 | syeren | Well I don't use raid frames in the arena ;) |
| 13:13.52 | Chum | well either way, It looks horrible to me, but you do what you want :P |
| 13:13.52 | kenlyric | I could care less if your UI was ugly, if you weren't contantly railing against people for having buttons. |
| 13:14.00 | Garns | didnt know debuffs were unimportant in PVE though *cogh |
| 13:14.09 | kenlyric | garns, they are for priests :) |
| 13:14.17 | kenlyric | that be a pallies job! |
| 13:14.35 | Garns | with our palas constantly ignoring them i tend to say otherwise :P |
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| 13:14.50 | kenlyric | their dispell costs 1/3 as much. |
| 13:14.52 | kenlyric | 1/2 |
| 13:15.00 | syeren | And in the arena, isn't anywhere near as efficent. |
| 13:15.07 | syeren | Detect + Poly = 3 seconds kthx. |
| 13:15.21 | Garns | yes but they are goddamn slow and with trash i don't really care that much about mana |
| 13:15.31 | kenlyric | you can tell when I'm talking about arena when I say "arena". we were talking about pve |
| 13:15.50 | kenlyric | Garns: yeah, I'm only joking. I spend way too much time dispelling :) |
| 13:15.58 | Chum | haha its funny to viper sting a pally then let them run around like "OH GOD MY MANA!" |
| 13:16.04 | kenlyric | lazy ass paladins too busy sniping my renews to dispel. |
| 13:16.04 | cryogen | who cares anyway, surely the point of addons is that you can set it up to look however the hell you like. :) |
| 13:16.11 | Chum | supposedly they can just purge it, or whatever. |
| 13:16.29 | Garns | kenlyric: I know that one :) |
| 13:16.40 | kenlyric | cryogen, seems like. provided that it's functional. |
| 13:17.05 | kenlyric | I may think syeren's ui is ugly, but it does seem to be functional. |
| 13:17.20 | syeren | As for me blocking my field of vision with set up on the left. |
| 13:17.24 | cryogen | functional or not, providing hes not smashing it into your face, and vice versa, it's all good |
| 13:17.41 | syeren | Party Frames need to be close to the center so I can see what is going on while looking at the dynamic damage. |
| 13:17.48 | syeren | If I had a purely PVE UI, it would be easy. |
| 13:17.57 | syeren | Everything is predictable on everything but the MT and OTs. |
| 13:18.03 | syeren | So it isn't crucial ;p |
| 13:18.04 | kenlyric | no, there are limits, I've seen UI setups that can be universally panned. |
| 13:18.06 | Chum | syeren- as a healer, I normally put them down by my action buttons so I can see my buttons as well as mine and everyone else's health. |
| 13:18.12 | Chum | same thing you do really. |
| 13:18.18 | syeren | I use Clique ;p |
| 13:18.25 | Chum | I will punch you in the face. |
| 13:18.35 | Chum | um.. |
| 13:18.38 | Chum | i mean, whats that? |
| 13:18.40 | syeren | My Buffs and Debuffs are between my Icehud and Party. |
| 13:18.41 | nevcairiel | i wouldnt really say everything is predictable in PvE, at least in high end content that is |
| 13:19.13 | syeren | Well not to the extreme degrees, but in comparison to PVP/Arena ;) |
| 13:19.23 | syeren | Clique allows me to bind the buttons my mouse to cast whatever spell on whichever frames I determine :p |
| 13:19.25 | kenlyric | everything is predictable? |
| 13:19.27 | syeren | I of course have everything bound too. |
| 13:19.30 | kenlyric | oh, to live in your perfect world. |
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| 13:20.52 | syeren | Well unless your DPS and healers are being fucktards, there are only a few fights where the AI chooses to make it not so ;) |
| 13:21.30 | kenlyric | right, your perfect world where everyone else can play. |
| 13:22.00 | syeren | Well of course, but generally you should try to avoid from being with those who cannot kenlyric :) |
| 13:22.05 | kenlyric | this game wouldn't be nearly as much fun for a healer if everyone knew how to play. |
| 13:22.19 | kenlyric | syeren: a nice theory, again in your apparently perfect world. |
| 13:22.27 | knarf- | Any specific reason for tomtom not drawing the coords in your current zone anymore? :S |
| 13:22.40 | knarf- | i'm using cartographer btw :) |
| 13:22.49 | syeren | kenlyric, I'm not in a perfect world ;) |
| 13:23.09 | syeren | I just generally don't find enjoyment in PVE, and therefor don't really base my claims around it a lot :P |
| 13:23.32 | syeren | Ultimately, if you was in a guild where everyone knew hot to play and wasn't retarded, you'd be in Nihilum. |
| 13:23.35 | syeren | ;) |
| 13:23.47 | syeren | *how to play |
| 13:24.23 | kenlyric | i'd just be happy in a guild where 25 people would sign on at once. |
| 13:24.41 | syeren | Haha, me too ;) |
| 13:24.50 | cryogen | kenlyric: funny, i saw people say the same but s/25/40/ :) |
| 13:25.02 | kenlyric | but then again, I see the kind of shit they pull in karazhan and think "maybe I don't" |
| 13:25.06 | syeren | "Sign on for a raid, are you joking?!?!? THAT WOULD BE INSANE!" |
| 13:25.17 | durcyn | trust me, as soon as you get that, you'll be asking for them to stop being asshats. there's always something wrong =( |
| 13:25.54 | durcyn | i never knew it was possible for people to forget how to play from one day to the next, but trying to lead naxxramas raids showed me it really is |
| 13:26.26 | syeren | It's funny, but when I was in my old guild I just took 40-50 people being online for raids for granted... |
| 13:26.43 | syeren | And now I moved servers, the guild I am in struggles to get 25 on for farm shit -_- |
| 13:27.06 | kenlyric | I want some sort of automatic filtering system applied to shade of aran. I'll even be generous and let you wipe the raid once with flame wreath. The second time, 7 day ban. Teh Third time, account delete. |
| 13:27.39 | evl | http://www.bash.org/?761414 |
| 13:27.45 | syeren | But kenlyric, "STOP MOVING WHEN FLAME WREATH I NEED TO DPS!?!!?" |
| 13:28.33 | kenlyric | that's when you give them the dps+dead=0 equation |
| 13:28.51 | syeren | I just call them out when they're on the floor ;p |
| 13:29.04 | syeren | "YOU'RE DOING SOME PRETTY GOOD DPS LYING THERE ON THE FLOOR." |
| 13:29.08 | durcyn | "we regret to inform you that your sons are dead because they were stupid." |
| 13:31.40 | kenlyric | repeated stupidity should be met with death. |
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| 13:36.34 | CIA-22 | 03roartindon * r38427 10Assessment/Modules/ (GroupMembers.lua Threat.lua UserInterface.lua): |
| 13:36.34 | CIA-22 | Assessment |
| 13:36.34 | CIA-22 | - Fixed group member colors disappearing |
| 13:37.10 | wallen | Is anyone using Mik's Scrolling Battle Text? |
| 13:37.33 | phyber | wallen: yes |
| 13:37.47 | nevcairiel | me to |
| 13:37.49 | Fisker- | http://forums.wow-europe.com/thread.html?topicId=292059947&sid=1#7 <-pointless rant inc, why is he MVP when posting exploits? |
| 13:37.50 | Fisker- | QQ |
| 13:37.52 | nevcairiel | s/o/oo/ |
| 13:37.53 | moonsorrow | Roartindon: ping |
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| 13:38.24 | wallen | Sometimes when my dots are ticking, I see in the outgoing area something like 780 [2 hits], what's that? :s |
| 13:38.35 | wallen | does it refer to two dots ticking at the same moment whose damage gets summed? |
| 13:38.39 | Fisker- | compressed events |
| 13:38.49 | wallen | Is there any way to remove that? |
| 13:38.51 | Fisker- | Instead of showing 390 2 times it shows the total damage instead |
| 13:38.51 | durcyn | Roartindon: simon says add hit/miss and crit percentage tracking to assessment. |
| 13:38.55 | kenlyric | the sexiest feature of MSBT |
| 13:38.57 | Fisker- | ^^ |
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| 13:39.19 | Fisker- | So when a mage is AoE'ing 100 mobs it won't show 100 damage 100 times it'll show 10000 damage 1 time |
| 13:39.21 | kenlyric | it's mystical on something like Vampiric embrace :) |
| 13:39.30 | kenlyric | oh yeah, and aoe |
| 13:39.37 | CIA-22 | 03roartindon * r38428 10Assessment/embeds.xml: Assessment: Fixed embeds to use Threat-1.0.xml.. thanks Moonsorrow |
| 13:39.42 | wallen | I see |
| 13:39.49 | nevcairiel | yeah it really cleans the output if you hot or dot alot |
| 13:39.56 | nevcairiel | or have a shadow priest in your group =P |
| 13:40.00 | wallen | Singularly showing all my dots ticks makes my epeen grow though |
| 13:40.05 | cryogen | what benefits does MSBT have over the blizzard one? |
| 13:40.09 | Fisker- | then disable it :o |
| 13:40.12 | kenlyric | I sometimes wish the threshhold could go higher :) |
| 13:40.13 | durcyn | wallen: but when they're together, the numbers are -bigger- |
| 13:40.19 | wallen | right |
| 13:40.58 | Fisker- | like my epeen |
| 13:40.59 | wallen | Fisker-: I can't find any option where to tick compressed events off |
| 13:41.09 | kenlyric | you didn't look hard enough. |
| 13:41.12 | wallen | I reckon that it might be useful in the Incoming event |
| 13:41.17 | wallen | I'll look some more then! |
| 13:41.25 | cryogen | is seal of command's holy damage melee crit or spell crit? |
| 13:41.42 | Fisker- | melee as far as i know |
| 13:41.45 | kenlyric | I go under "general" and find it right there :) |
| 13:41.58 | Fisker- | "Throttle DoTs & HoTs" |
| 13:42.37 | wallen | I see |
| 13:42.38 | xlvii | cryogen, melee as it can be dodged, evaded and parried |
| 13:42.43 | xlvii | aha. |
| 13:42.59 | wallen | I was looking for something in the scrolling areas that sounded "compressed events on/off" |
| 13:43.03 | wallen | +like |
| 13:43.07 | cryogen | xlvii: it can also be resisted |
| 13:43.16 | Fisker- | of course |
| 13:43.22 | Fisker- | we need to have every aspect of the nerfstick |
| 13:43.25 | cryogen | xlvii: they only spell in the game(im aware of) which is :) |
| 13:43.39 | Fisker- | It is |
| 13:43.48 | cryogen | i can see why they did it, but it still sucks :) |
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| 13:44.01 | Fisker- | Seal of Command follow both the melee and the elemental damage mechanics |
| 13:44.08 | cryogen | except it cant glance |
| 13:44.14 | Fisker- | Meaning it can be blocked, dodged, parried, resisted, and so on |
| 13:44.30 | Fisker- | Special attacks can't glance |
| 13:44.35 | cryogen | i suspect the resist element was added because it cant glance |
| 13:44.41 | Fisker- | "Special attacks can't glance" |
| 13:44.51 | Fisker- | So neither should SoC |
| 13:44.54 | cryogen | for fighting higher level stuff |
| 13:45.03 | Fisker- | I know |
| 13:45.08 | Fisker- | but only white damage glances |
| 13:45.13 | cryogen | but, if you look at hunters.. they have no such limitation :p |
| 13:45.23 | cryogen | Fisker-: i know, just saying thats probably why they made it resistable |
| 13:45.48 | Fisker- | So an abillity like Sinister Strike should also be resistable? |
| 13:45.54 | Fisker- | You're making no sense |
| 13:45.56 | cryogen | and also why im confused about which crit element it comes under, because spell dmg benefits it.. |
| 13:46.07 | cryogen | Fisker-: i didnt say it *should* either, just can see why it does :p |
| 13:46.11 | cryogen | s/does/is/ |
| 13:47.22 | cryogen | you make a good point though, although rogues are limited in special attacks by energy, as warriors are with rage(glancing blows generate no(little?) rage |
| 13:47.35 | cryogen | however hunters dont have any reduction when they fight higher level stuff at range |
| 13:48.56 | kenlyric | and pets don't suffer from rez sickness. That's HOT. |
| 13:49.06 | Fisker- | It's actually pretty sickening |
| 13:49.25 | Fisker- | All in all it makes ~zero sense the way Blizzard has handled stuff |
| 13:49.27 | CIA-22 | 03roartindon * r38429 10Assessment/ (Assessment.toc embeds.xml): |
| 13:49.27 | CIA-22 | Assessment |
| 13:49.27 | CIA-22 | - Yet another change to get embedded Threat-1.0 working. Shifted Threat-1.0.xml into .toc |
| 13:49.28 | *** join/#wowace xt (i=xt@of.doom.no) |
| 13:49.42 | xt | anyone know if the bug in threat with soulshatter not working is getting fixed? |
| 13:49.46 | Fisker- | "Omg we removed weapon skill from effecting glancing blows because people could like solo mobs mucher higher level than themselves" |
| 13:49.49 | cryogen | indeed, it seems like they reacted to specific concerns but completely ignored the big picture :) |
| 13:49.53 | Fisker- | i.e. HUNTERS |
| 13:50.09 | phyber | xt: it's the one bug that nobody is /ever/ going to fix. |
| 13:50.17 | xt | phyber: lol, how so? |
| 13:50.30 | Fisker- | I've several times taken rare elites several levels above me, usually 4-6 levels as a hunter |
| 13:50.39 | phyber | in the "ask a silly question, get a silly answer" sense of bug fixing. ;) |
| 13:50.51 | xt | phyber, ah I see.. |
| 13:51.03 | xt | phyber: I figured I'd just throw it out there... |
| 13:51.08 | CIA-22 | 03roartindon * r38430 10Assessment/ (Assessment.toc embeds.xml): |
| 13:51.08 | CIA-22 | Assessment |
| 13:51.09 | CIA-22 | - And hopefully the final word on the matter.. using Include file in the embeds.xml |
| 13:51.11 | kenlyric | Fisker-: I sometimes fight mobs, and wonder why they are talking so long when I realize they are an elite, or red, or whatever. |
| 13:51.31 | Roartindon | durcyn: There's a lot of stuff in Assessment that there's no UI for at the moment |
| 13:51.32 | cryogen | see hunters dont have that problem, range attacks dont glance :) |
| 13:51.37 | Roartindon | durcyn: And that's in the works |
| 13:51.41 | phyber | :) |
| 13:51.42 | Roartindon | durcyn: I already have hit/crit/ability tracking |
| 13:51.51 | Roartindon | And lots of other stuff, just no UI :) |
| 13:52.20 | durcyn | Roartindon: oh. spiffy. |
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| 13:53.15 | kenlyric | the trick to any difficult encounter is a tank with damage mitigation, effective dps, healing, and using aggro to your advantage to make everyone live longer. Hunters can do all that. |
| 13:53.22 | phyber | what's with people using XML files to include things now? new craze? |
| 13:53.29 | durcyn | kudos on it so far though, it looks fantastic. |
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| 13:53.47 | Mikk | phyber: means the embedding addon only needs to know about the xml file |
| 13:54.11 | Mikk | phyber: could be done with a lua file including other lua files too |
| 13:54.18 | durcyn | phyber: iirc the original idea was to have WAU pull out embeds.xml for standalone libs, so you only get one file not found on toc load, which has some load time impact |
| 13:54.38 | durcyn | several seconds across ~150 addons based on the data on the forum thread |
| 13:55.25 | phyber | wow, shitty checking for files existing is quite shitty? it can't take that long to check if a file exists. |
| 13:56.04 | vhaarr | Apparently stating a file and logging 1 line if it doesn't exist is expensive. |
| 13:56.08 | Killmore | I have a question about bigwigs.. we was on lurker yesterday.. I was the assistant with the broadcast thing.. everyone in the raid having the last version.. some peoples (like me) diddnt see some timer.. |
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| 13:56.21 | [Liquidor] | Where do I read about creating frames with lua? |
| 13:56.35 | [Liquidor] | And should I take a look at any modules related to as well? |
| 13:57.24 | Silviu- | [Liquidor] can u post your screenshot again |
| 13:57.32 | [Liquidor] | which? |
| 13:57.34 | Silviu- | Of your ui |
| 13:57.44 | [Liquidor] | I use default |
| 13:57.54 | [Liquidor] | but if you think of the sui I had... |
| 13:58.19 | Silviu- | Well u posted yesterday an UI |
| 13:58.24 | Silviu- | Some nice one :) |
| 13:58.33 | [Liquidor] | http://i10.tinypic.com/674fr81.jpg |
| 13:58.45 | Silviu- | Thx |
| 13:58.45 | Silviu- | :P |
| 13:58.54 | [Liquidor] | And with target: http://i19.tinypic.com/4lhpdmt.jpg |
| 13:58.55 | Silviu- | And in combat ? |
| 13:58.57 | Silviu- | Super |
| 13:59.45 | phyber | 2513263 /tmp/log.txt |
| 13:59.53 | phyber | in seven seconds perl could check for and log this many files. |
| 14:00.55 | durcyn | mkes me wonder if they're doing something retarded like opening/writing/closing framexml.log every time |
| 14:00.56 | phyber | infact, I was cheating by checking for the same file again and again. I'll make a random filename. |
| 14:01.00 | [Liquidor] | Is anyone kind to give a hint on how to create a simple frame with the tooltip border, black background color and a text frame in the center of it? |
| 14:01.22 | vhaarr | liq: http://rabbit.nihilum.eu/NRT-2007-06-04.zip |
| 14:01.33 | Mikk | phyber / durcyn: they'll likely go digging in .mpq files as well |
| 14:01.37 | [Liquidor] | Thank j00 |
| 14:01.52 | durcyn | oh, likely so. bollocks. |
| 14:02.18 | syeren | Rabbit, you're the one who does Nihilum's DKP :o? |
| 14:02.43 | vhaarr | I made their raid tracker. |
| 14:03.02 | syeren | Are you able to make strings for ermm... EQDKP? |
| 14:03.03 | syeren | Or not? |
| 14:03.19 | vhaarr | I have no idea. |
| 14:04.04 | syeren | :( |
| 14:04.14 | Fisker- | it already has it? |
| 14:04.19 | durcyn | just a list of names is usually sufficient |
| 14:04.23 | syeren | If it was able to create a raid string for EQDKP, that would own. |
| 14:04.30 | vhaarr | Why don't you try it? |
| 14:04.30 | durcyn | that ctraidtracker xml imprt string is kind of stupid anyway |
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| 14:07.43 | BankZ | Any know issues with BigWigs? |
| 14:07.53 | BankZ | I dont seem to always get the timer bars |
| 14:08.09 | BankZ | seems like they show if we wipe and try again |
| 14:08.15 | BankZ | but not on the first attempt |
| 14:08.24 | BankZ | for a lot of the kara fights |
| 14:08.42 | vhaarr | You need to mouse over or target the boss to activate the boss module. |
| 14:08.47 | kenlyric | make sure you hover over the mod so the module gets engaged |
| 14:08.54 | Ominous | hmm how come my lua and luac dont like the #table syntax |
| 14:09.02 | vhaarr | Because it's 5.0? |
| 14:09.02 | kenlyric | or just make sure your tank has bigwigs :) |
| 14:09.11 | Ominous | ah /slap |
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| 14:09.29 | Mikk | Ominous: get cogwheel's lua from wowinterface |
| 14:09.36 | Mikk | it's compatible with wow's lua |
| 14:09.41 | Ominous | i couldnt work out how to get it to work |
| 14:09.45 | phyber | Xuerian! XLoot can't count ;) |
| 14:09.56 | Mikk | cog's? just go digging in the folders, there's .exes down deep |
| 14:10.11 | Xuerian | phyber: If you mean it's occasional 2 when you have 1, or is it having more fun than that? |
| 14:10.26 | CIA-22 | 03xuerian * r38431 10XLoot/XLoot.lua: XLoot: Drycode fix for IsSwift() errors. Wtf, blizzard. bastards. |
| 14:10.42 | phyber | Xuerian: eg. I have 28 Netherweave Cloth in my bag, and pick up 3 more. XLoot Monitor then says have have 29, instead of 31 |
| 14:11.11 | Fisker- | oh hi Xuerian |
| 14:11.29 | phyber | not that big an issue. but big enough that my GF watching over my shoulder noticed it :p |
| 14:11.47 | Mikk | OH SIGH Can you at least have some opinions on http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=6533.0 so I know if I should do it or not? :P |
| 14:11.53 | Xuerian | phyber: Let me change it really quick and see if it fixes things for you, but I've changed this back and forth - It fixes it for some and breaks it for some. Somewhere after 2.0 blizzard started fucking with the order it sends events and updates to the client. Sometimes It needs to add the new count to the total, sometimes the total is already up to date, and I have no idea how to tell which has happened |
| 14:11.59 | Xuerian | Fisker-: Heya. |
| 14:12.16 | phyber | Xuerian: I won't be able to check it right away, but I can let you know in a few hours, if nobody else tells you by then ;) |
| 14:12.25 | Xuerian | phyber: Works for me. |
| 14:13.35 | Mikk | on an unrelated note... am i the only one that wants a "separator" type in dewdrop? o.O |
| 14:13.52 | Mikk | with builtin magic so it doesn't show if there's nothing to separate, and doesn't show two separators in a row, n stuff ... |
| 14:14.09 | CIA-22 | 03xuerian * r38432 10XLootMonitor/XLootMonitor.lua: XLootMonitor: Let's try adding the number looted to the total instead of just "1". |
| 14:14.47 | Xuerian | Mikk: Sounds good to me. |
| 14:14.48 | Killmore | BankZ: having the same problem with lurker yesterday |
| 14:14.51 | chutwig | ^^ most anticipated fix of the century |
| 14:15.16 | vhaarr | Killmore: It's just the lurker module that's not up to speed. |
| 14:15.23 | vhaarr | Killmore: Bust funkeh about it when he's on. |
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| 14:16.46 | wallen | Woa, I didn't think MSBT was that customizable |
| 14:17.16 | Xuerian | wallen: It's nice. |
| 14:18.19 | Brutos | hi, i want to develop an addon which turns abbreviations to their full form, eg uc ->Undercity |
| 14:18.40 | Brutos | where to start? |
| 14:18.54 | vhaarr | Brutos: Prat probably has a chat replace module. |
| 14:19.00 | Xuerian | A chat mod, eg Prat or SimpleChatMods. Or... just... do that |
| 14:19.12 | Xuerian | >_> |
| 14:19.21 | Xuerian | Stop making sense, vhaarr. It scares me. |
| 14:19.30 | Ominous | how can i make it so in cmd i can type in luac and ittle run luac.exe |
| 14:19.37 | Ominous | in another folder |
| 14:19.40 | vhaarr | http://svn.wowace.com/wowace/trunk/Prat/Prat_Modules/modules/Substitutions.lua |
| 14:19.48 | vhaarr | Ominous: lern2dos |
| 14:20.03 | Ominous | vhaarr? |
| 14:20.09 | vhaarr | Ominous: Rightclick your "My Computer" icon and find "Environment Variables" somewhere there |
| 14:20.14 | Xuerian | Ominous: Add the lua folder to your PATH. in xp, it's in env variables buried in your computer's settings (my computer -> properties -> dig around there) |
| 14:20.22 | Brutos | vhaarr: Thx |
| 14:20.47 | Mikk | Huhu... programmers that don't know commandline. pheeeer. |
| 14:21.09 | Xuerian | Scary, innit. |
| 14:21.49 | Stephmw | Mikk: how could you insult all those _clearly_ skilled VB developers? |
| 14:21.54 | Brutos | Oo, i learned to use dos at a age of 9, i destroyed my win 3.1 and wasnt able to play my games anymore |
| 14:22.22 | Xuerian | I learned to use the commandline on a C64. 64kb of ram, bitch |
| 14:23.04 | Mikk | Stephmw: Sigh, you're so stoneage. Now we're talking C#, .net, and all that good stuff |
| 14:23.05 | BankZ | So, for bigwigs you have to hover over or select the boss for it to enable? |
| 14:23.05 | Brutos | Good old times |
| 14:23.05 | vhaarr | BankZ: I thought 3 people said that already? |
| 14:23.05 | Brutos | with commander ken and duke nukem |
| 14:23.06 | Fisker- | omg wuts a command line? |
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| 14:23.09 | BankZ | I am a healer so I tend to select the MT |
| 14:23.10 | Mikk | Stephmw: They still won't know feckall about command lines, but at least they'll be ignorant cross-platform :P |
| 14:23.19 | BankZ | so thats mty problem |
| 14:23.25 | BankZ | vhaarr: just confirming |
| 14:23.35 | Mikk | Stephmw: (For billg values of crossplatform anyway...) |
| 14:23.45 | vhaarr | BankZ: One person in your raid running BW has to mouse over or target the boss before you engage. |
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| 14:25.20 | Stephmw | Mikk: right. across *all* variants of Windows... |
| 14:25.33 | cryogen | you played games in win3.1? *shudder* |
| 14:25.45 | Stephmw | I played them under Gem |
| 14:25.55 | cryogen | dos4gw ftw |
| 14:25.58 | Stephmw | Dos 3.2, wasn't it? |
| 14:26.10 | Stephmw | cryogen: dos4gw didn't exist back then |
| 14:26.19 | Stephmw | cryogen: only 640KB of ram ;) |
| 14:26.30 | cryogen | yeah but games sucked then too :) |
| 14:26.35 | cryogen | apart from say, monkey island |
| 14:26.40 | Xuerian | jetpack rocked. |
| 14:26.49 | durcyn | hey, doom1 on a 486SX25 was -minutes- of fun. |
| 14:26.52 | Stephmw | California Games was great... Gunship wasn't too bad |
| 14:26.58 | cryogen | you couldnt beat the GPFs of dos4gw! |
| 14:27.08 | Stephmw | But still, my fave is Sopwith |
| 14:27.08 | Fisker- | it's a shame microsoft never released their multitasking DOS |
| 14:27.34 | Kalman| | It's a shame the click adventure genre died. |
| 14:27.35 | cryogen | durcyn: wasnt doom extended memory? |
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| 14:28.18 | cryogen | i remember upgrading from a sx25 to a dx4 100, phwoar! |
| 14:28.36 | nevcairiel | i started with dx4 100 in the real PC world :) |
| 14:28.36 | Mikk | dx4 100! Descent! |
| 14:28.49 | kenlyric | I remember turbo buttons! |
| 14:28.51 | cryogen | yeah, i like, bought descent and stuff |
| 14:28.53 | durcyn | cryogen: as opposed to what, expanded? |
| 14:29.00 | cryogen | durcyn: 640k, conventional |
| 14:29.08 | Mikk | doom used extended/expanded mem yes |
| 14:29.29 | Kalman| | I remember my 286 w/ 2 MB of memory. |
| 14:29.33 | Kalman| | But it had a 28.8 modem! |
| 14:29.41 | Brutos | n1 |
| 14:29.53 | Arrowmaster | i remember when you beat solotair on win3.1 it would take forever to bounce the cards! |
| 14:29.58 | Mikk | Computer vocabulary: "EMS" - What you call for (emerency medical service) after trying to understand XMS/EMS specs. |
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| 14:30.53 | Mikk | Kalman|: 28.8k modem on a 286? Could it even transmit that fast? :P |
| 14:30.55 | cryogen | heh |
| 14:31.05 | cryogen | i used to play modem doom! |
| 14:31.05 | Stephmw | Mikk: hahaha |
| 14:31.08 | Kalman| | Mikk: I also ran Windows 3.11 on it once, just to see if it could. |
| 14:31.10 | Kalman| | It could. |
| 14:31.12 | cryogen | my dad loved the phone bills im sure |
| 14:31.14 | Kalman| | Very, very slowly, but it could. |
| 14:31.36 | Mikk | You sure you don't mean 3.1 there rather than 3.11? |
| 14:31.41 | Kalman| | WfWg 3.11. |
| 14:31.47 | Mikk | Yowza |
| 14:31.47 | Kalman| | I am very sure of the extra 1. |
| 14:31.56 | Stephmw | aye |
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| 14:32.00 | Stephmw | 3.11 existed |
| 14:32.04 | Mikk | Cause, well, win3.11 was practically win95 |
| 14:32.07 | Kalman| | Yeah, there's a name you haven't heard in decades, and probably happily. |
| 14:32.18 | Kalman| | s/decades/decade |
| 14:32.22 | Brutos | i still have a win 3.11 cd here |
| 14:32.23 | Mikk | Win 3.1 was still real mode everything |
| 14:32.26 | Stephmw | 3.11 was basically 3.1 + win32s + winsock, no? |
| 14:32.27 | Mikk | 3.11 had 32-bit drivers and the works |
| 14:32.34 | Mikk | The difference was _HUGE_ |
| 14:32.47 | Mikk | The minor rev is totally misleading =P |
| 14:32.55 | Kalman| | Mikk: Not on a 286 it didn't. :p |
| 14:32.55 | kenlyric | 3.11 was the edition you used if you were on a network, so if you used windows at a college or workplace, it was probably 3.11 |
| 14:33.10 | kenlyric | unless it was nt 3.51 :) |
| 14:33.24 | Mikk | i doubt nt ever ran on 286 |
| 14:33.26 | kenlyric | which looked exactly the same and crashed about 1000x less. |
| 14:33.58 | cryogen | 3.11 was what it said on the tin |
| 14:34.02 | cryogen | workgroup support :p |
| 14:34.03 | Ominous | i added "C:\Games\lua511wow\msvc\release;" to the end of the PATH variable in enviromental vars but it hasnet worked |
| 14:34.18 | Kalman| | Did you restart your dos box? |
| 14:34.18 | Mikk | There actually was a 3.11 without WfWG too |
| 14:34.22 | Mikk | Never did sell a lot |
| 14:34.26 | Ominous | i restarted my pc |
| 14:34.42 | Ominous | ah i had an extra space |
| 14:34.44 | Ominous | it works now |
| 14:35.53 | durcyn | i seem to recall 3.11 was just 3.1 with lanman cobbled onto it. win32s was still a separate product |
| 14:36.12 | durcyn | though i could be totally wrong, and it doesn't matter for bugger-all |
| 14:36.56 | Mikk | 3.11 used basically the same under-the-hood code as 95 |
| 14:36.58 | Brutos | a original wfwg 3.11 cd: http://img161.imageshack.us/img161/2037/2810060126vd3.jpg |
| 14:37.04 | Mikk | then there was 3.11fWG, which had lanman cobbled onto it |
| 14:37.19 | Mikk | and yeah win32s was a separate product, but all that did was install usermode APIs for 32bit stuff |
| 14:37.24 | Mikk | 3.11 always had 32bit stuff under the hood |
| 14:37.46 | Mikk | "Virtual mode driver" <- that was 32bit |
| 14:37.47 | durcyn | hmm. 32 bit file access and 32 bit network reflectors, close enough |
| 14:37.56 | cryogen | windows 95, there was a travesty and a half |
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| 14:38.58 | Mikk | the most noticeable difference to the user was that you could format a floppy in a dos box under 3.11 without hanging the system :P |
| 14:41.12 | kenlyric | windows 95 was designed to break games, so people could game less at work. |
| 14:41.19 | kenlyric | thereby making them more productive. |
| 14:41.45 | QuantumDelta | hense the solitare work fads? :P |
| 14:41.55 | kenlyric | it's essentially I belive the major thrust of Vista. |
| 14:42.07 | Mikk | windows 95 was designed to squeeze money out of existing customers imo :P |
| 14:42.09 | cryogen | kenlyric: seems to work on my pc at least |
| 14:43.13 | Mikk | then again the same can be said for everything past win3.11 and nt3.51 |
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| 14:43.36 | [Liquidor] | Hmm which function should I call to retrieve my honor? |
| 14:44.08 | kenlyric | and also macosx with any dots after it. |
| 14:44.11 | durcyn | liq: look at GloryLib |
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| 14:44.37 | kenlyric | oh, look, we improved searching, only $89! |
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| 14:45.14 | Fisker- | :o? |
| 14:48.01 | [Liquidor] | durcyn, can't find it in Glory either |
| 14:48.06 | durcyn | kenlyric: at least the beast from cupertino is only trying to make money, instead of take over the world like the beast from redmond. |
| 14:48.29 | durcyn | embrace, extend, extinguish! sing it with me~ |
| 14:48.33 | kenlyric | lol. you don't think jobs wants to take over the world? |
| 14:48.35 | [Liquidor] | It's the honor points I would like to grab |
| 14:48.41 | kenlyric | you haven't seen jobs talk, have you? |
| 14:48.49 | durcyn | no, i can't lip-read. |
| 14:48.53 | Mikk | i'd put nothing whatsoever past steve-o :P |
| 14:49.05 | kenlyric | my point is that people bitch about MS charging for minor upgrades, but apple does the exact same thing. |
| 14:49.27 | durcyn | i don't care what they charge, my beef with vista is the DRM. |
| 14:49.27 | Mikk | Any healthy software vendor does. Or they'd be broke :P |
| 14:49.28 | sbu | apple is much worse |
| 14:49.45 | Mikk | ~drm |
| 14:49.47 | purl | i heard drm is a cool new video card feature in the 2.4 kernel -- http://precisioninsight.com/dr/drm.html or the Direct Rendering Module, or called Direct Rendering Manager. "an acronym for "Digital Rights Management" ", or http://www.microsoft.com/windows/windowsmedia/drm.asp ... the best big black-caca from the ass of gates Just Say No(TM) |
| 14:49.57 | kenlyric | MS at least tinkers with the kernel once in a while :) |
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| 14:59.01 | Ominous | can you get to curator if you dont do opera? |
| 14:59.16 | [dRaCo] | no |
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| 15:02.07 | Mikk | Ominous: you need to unlock the side door, which you do from the inside. and the path to that is via the opera stage. |
| 15:02.21 | Mikk | how just who the hell would design their house that way i do not know but ... :P |
| 15:02.31 | Mikk | s/how/now/ |
| 15:02.37 | Ominous | rofl |
| 15:03.28 | Mikk | i still want to know what's behind teh sergeant's door in the servant's quarters |
| 15:03.39 | Mikk | sergeant is yellow so you can't gank him for the key |
| 15:03.41 | Mikk | :( |
| 15:04.17 | kenlyric | just go through the door on the other side. |
| 15:04.44 | kenlyric | just goes to the basement I think. |
| 15:04.59 | Mikk | i'm talking about the door upstairs from the stable |
| 15:05.16 | Mikk | you normally never see it tbh |
| 15:05.30 | Mikk | i just ran around there for kicks one day when stuff was nice and clear |
| 15:05.41 | Mikk | (and damn there's a lot of kara that you normally never see) |
| 15:06.21 | kenlyric | which door am I thinking of then? |
| 15:06.34 | kenlyric | comes out on the far side of the ballroom balcony. (another place you never see) |
| 15:06.44 | Mikk | mmmm no not that one i do not think |
| 15:06.55 | Mikk | this one you can get to by running through the kitchen from the ballroom |
| 15:07.03 | kenlyric | everything is dead in our instance but netherspite. I'll explore fully! |
| 15:07.10 | Ominous | how hard is opera in relation to maiten |
| 15:07.16 | Ominous | s/maiten/maiden/ |
| 15:07.46 | Mikk | harder in terms of having 10 sharp players and not just a good tank + a few good healers + a bunch of dps n00bs |
| 15:07.47 | [dRaCo] | depends on the event |
| 15:07.47 | kenlyric | learnig opera can be rough... there's a lot of shit going on during wizard of oz. |
| 15:07.59 | [dRaCo] | r&j might be hard |
| 15:08.01 | kenlyric | maiden is pretty straightforward. |
| 15:08.25 | [dRaCo] | oz is pretty easy, if u ask me... we did it at our 2nd try |
| 15:08.33 | Roartindon | kenlyric: Heheh. I normally run with a whole group of aus players.. ie. high ping.. and the only opera event that gives us problems is bbw :) |
| 15:08.40 | Mikk | oz sucks ass if you try to go by wowwiki tactics and not tank anything |
| 15:08.46 | Mikk | at least it did for us |
| 15:08.55 | Mikk | ended up slapping a few tanks on some of them and stuff worked out a lot better |
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| 15:09.07 | Roartindon | yeah, we tank instead of fearing too |
| 15:09.14 | Mikk | well.. we tank AND fear |
| 15:09.16 | kenlyric | Roartindon: you have to admit that when you first do it, wizard of oz can seem pretty hectic. |
| 15:09.17 | Roartindon | because the feared one tends to LoS the feareer |
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| 15:09.26 | chutwig | roar likes to run inside the doors |
| 15:09.35 | chutwig | at least you can death coil him now |
| 15:09.40 | Mikk | it just helps have him come back to something wearing plate as opposed to a squishy warlock that he oneshots |
| 15:09.40 | Roartindon | kenlyric: Yeah, it is, but it's easy once learnt.. as opposed for BBW for us, which still kills a coupl eof people every time |
| 15:09.53 | QuantumDelta | heh |
| 15:10.02 | [dRaCo] | tank as much as u can/ur healer can heal, cc the rest, dps dorothy, then u should be done in no time |
| 15:10.09 | QuantumDelta | Oz is easy with a pally tank you just sit him under the mobs consecrating before you cc |
| 15:10.10 | QuantumDelta | -.- |
| 15:10.15 | QuantumDelta | BBW is 4mannable |
| 15:10.28 | QuantumDelta | prolly even 3 |
| 15:10.31 | chutwig | very slowly 4-mannable |
| 15:10.31 | Mikk | BBW usually _is_ 4manned towards the end :P |
| 15:10.47 | QuantumDelta | we don't normally lose people on BBW anymore |
| 15:10.52 | QuantumDelta | just one or two twits |
| 15:10.52 | Roartindon | What I'm saying is... we did a full kara run - and we didn't lose a single person on any boss.. except.. bbw :) |
| 15:11.11 | Mikk | bbw requires nukers to stop nuking and run... and healers to stop healing and run |
| 15:11.15 | kenlyric | yeah, BBW would be sensitive to lag. |
| 15:11.16 | Mikk | they don't like doing that =P |
| 15:11.17 | Roartindon | QuantumDelta: Does your entire group have ~500ms pings tho? :) |
| 15:11.21 | kenlyric | I love doing that! |
| 15:11.25 | kenlyric | free mana regen! |
| 15:11.26 | QuantumDelta | no |
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| 15:11.30 | QuantumDelta | but we do have maltese |
| 15:11.31 | Mikk | haha |
| 15:11.31 | QuantumDelta | :P |
| 15:11.35 | [Liquidor] | Is there a formatting function to add "." in numbers higher than 999? eg. 34.203 ? |
| 15:11.46 | Mikk | why would you want to do that :S |
| 15:11.56 | Roartindon | you mean like 34.203k ? |
| 15:12.07 | Mikk | "34k" <- win |
| 15:12.14 | [Liquidor] | For personal use |
| 15:12.24 | [Liquidor] | It's for the visual part |
| 15:12.26 | Roartindon | you'll have to write your own, or rip one from DogTag or TagCompiler |
| 15:12.27 | QuantumDelta | cuz sometimes you need to know the whole number! |
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| 15:12.47 | Roartindon | basically: if value > 999 then return string.format("%f", value/1000) |
| 15:12.50 | alext | u can get screwed on BBW if your healers arent on point and BBW cuts corners |
| 15:13.14 | alext | altho seems like he hits less hard in 2.1, either that or i just think everything hits less in 2.1 |
| 15:13.27 | kenlyric | alext: everything does. |
| 15:13.31 | QuantumDelta | everything does |
| 15:13.37 | QuantumDelta | though i wish hydross hit even less hard |
| 15:13.38 | QuantumDelta | t_t |
| 15:13.39 | alext | good times |
| 15:13.39 | [Liquidor] | Well in Denmark we use , instead of . so I guess I should ask in another way? =) |
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| 15:14.05 | QuantumDelta | the uk uses , instead of . too :P |
| 15:14.19 | [Liquidor] | 34203 = 34.203 or 34203.42 = 34.203,42 |
| 15:15.14 | Mikk | 34 203.123 |
| 15:15.30 | kenlyric | spaces would be dumb in any language. |
| 15:15.37 | cryogen | seconded :p |
| 15:15.43 | QuantumDelta | except human ones |
| 15:15.44 | kenlyric | most particularly a computer one :) |
| 15:15.51 | Mikk | commas and periods aren't? |
| 15:15.52 | kenlyric | spaces indicate something new. |
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| 15:16.33 | Mikk | commas and periods indicate decimals |
| 15:16.57 | [Liquidor] | Depends on language? |
| 15:17.12 | Mikk | or list separators |
| 15:17.31 | Mikk | no programming language will ever like thousand separators. end of story :P |
| 15:17.37 | [Liquidor] | Anyway back to my question, there's no format to add those periods? |
| 15:17.38 | kenlyric | punctuation has a lot of different meaning in the languages that use them, but spaces are pretty universal in the languages that use them. |
| 15:17.59 | [Liquidor] | Spaces? wtf? |
| 15:18.37 | Mikk | well.. using spaces means that there's no way in hell you can confuse it with a decimal point =) |
| 15:18.38 | kenlyric | try to keep up with the seven different conversations going, kthx |
| 15:18.51 | kenlyric | :) |
| 15:18.57 | Mikk | "123,456" <- one hundred thousand+? |
| 15:19.04 | Mikk | "123.456" <- one hundred thousand+? |
| 15:19.11 | Mikk | "123 456" <- one hundred thousand+? yes. |
| 15:19.36 | [Liquidor] | really? |
| 15:19.40 | Mikk | Of course I'm biased since the official separator in Sweden _is_ space :> |
| 15:19.41 | [Liquidor] | Never thought spaces were valid |
| 15:19.47 | phyber | no, one hundred and twenty three followed by four hundred and fifty six. for some reason. |
| 15:19.51 | [Liquidor] | Isn't 123 456 two diff. values? |
| 15:19.54 | cryogen | what phyber said |
| 15:20.04 | cryogen | its not less confusing |
| 15:20.24 | Mikk | pff you probably prefer feet n inches over meters |
| 15:20.35 | cryogen | it's only less confusing to you because you're used to it :p |
| 15:20.39 | kenlyric | your language needs to gtfo. |
| 15:20.44 | [Liquidor] | =D |
| 15:20.46 | phyber | comma = superior separator. period = crazy separator for inland europe. space = ???. |
| 15:20.54 | kenlyric | spaces are spaces, not trivial number separators. |
| 15:20.55 | cryogen | the same way as i say you're stupid and '.' is decimal and ',' is seperator. :) |
| 15:21.01 | cryogen | nuff said |
| 15:21.02 | [Liquidor] | I don't get the space one tbh. |
| 15:21.10 | [Liquidor] | Can't be true |
| 15:21.14 | Mikk | Only cause you're not used to it :P |
| 15:21.30 | cryogen | i have to admit out of all 3 methods the space one is clearly more confusing :) |
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| 15:21.35 | Mikk | haha |
| 15:21.36 | Antiarc|Work | Mornings. |
| 15:21.41 | jme | suck |
| 15:21.44 | [Liquidor] | If I asked my former math teacher: "Hey dork, what number is this? 123 456" he would just answer "Eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeh 7?" |
| 15:21.45 | Mikk | so, cryogen: what's 123.456? |
| 15:21.49 | Mikk | and what's 123,456? |
| 15:22.01 | cryogen | they are either the same thing or entirely different |
| 15:22.01 | [Liquidor] | 2 diff values |
| 15:22.11 | cryogen | but at least you're 50/50 chance at geting them right |
| 15:22.12 | [Liquidor] | Depends on the language I guess |
| 15:22.12 | jme | because mornings mean i still have afternoon left before i go home and play wow after work :( |
| 15:22.16 | cryogen | whereas wtf is 123 456 :) |
| 15:22.23 | jme | Antiarc|Work: also, howdy |
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| 15:22.47 | cryogen | you're going to confuse numbers written in a different regional style period |
| 15:22.50 | [Liquidor] | okay, can someone explain to me why 123 456 is 1 number and not 2 diff. ones? |
| 15:23.00 | Mikk | [Liquidor]: Because I live in Sweden :P |
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| 15:23.05 | cryogen | [Liquidor]: because ' ' is a thousand seperator in some crazy countrys |
| 15:23.07 | kenlyric | [Liquidor]: only on the planet neptune and sweden. |
| 15:23.15 | cryogen | Mikk: and your decimal seperator is..? |
| 15:23.17 | [Liquidor] | *lmao* |
| 15:23.20 | Mikk | space |
| 15:23.23 | [Liquidor] | Haha |
| 15:23.27 | Mikk | err |
| 15:23.30 | Mikk | decimal separator |
| 15:23.32 | Mikk | comma |
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| 15:23.42 | cryogen | weirdos |
| 15:23.42 | Mikk | "123 456,789" |
| 15:23.44 | [Liquidor] | What's with the space then? |
| 15:23.48 | Mikk | yeah i'm hating the comma one myself |
| 15:23.57 | Mikk | "123 456.789" plx |
| 15:24.02 | cryogen | that would make more sense |
| 15:24.02 | [Liquidor] | 123.456,789 I would assume would be the most used. |
| 15:24.08 | phyber | 123,456.789 = the one true way. |
| 15:24.09 | cryogen | 123,456.789 |
| 15:24.24 | [Ammo] | depends on locale |
| 15:24.24 | Mikk | However, it matters fuckall here because if I see a period or a comma, I know it means "decimal" |
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| 15:24.33 | [Liquidor] | Well that depends on language phyber |
| 15:24.35 | [Ammo] | in dutch it's: 123.456,789 |
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| 15:24.48 | Mikk | See? Space ftw! solves problems! \o/ |
| 15:24.58 | cryogen | Mikk: for you.. :) |
| 15:25.08 | cryogen | Mikk: if i give you one of my numbers it will confuse you, and vice versa |
| 15:25.09 | [Liquidor] | xxx,xxx,xxx.xx = Eng | xxx.xxx.xxx,xx = Scand. |
| 15:25.11 | cryogen | it solves nothing :) |
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| 15:25.23 | phyber | my main irritation is that it's a "decimal point". a comma isn't a point. it's a little line. where as period is a small point. |
| 15:25.26 | cryogen | it just adds a new layer of confusion :p |
| 15:25.39 | Mikk | And don't even get me started on date formatting :P |
| 15:25.48 | cryogen | phyber: but the comma's meaning in countries that use it as a decimal does equate the same thing :) |
| 15:25.48 | [Liquidor] | Oh that one sucks Mikk |
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| 15:25.55 | cryogen | date formatting is easy |
| 15:25.56 | cryogen | use ISO or die |
| 15:25.58 | [Liquidor] | Eng: mm/dd/yyyy lol |
| 15:26.05 | [Liquidor] | Dk: dd/mm/yyyy <3 |
| 15:26.07 | Mikk | cryogen: thanks =) |
| 15:26.07 | cryogen | yyyy-mm-dd |
| 15:26.27 | kenlyric | ^^ |
| 15:26.36 | shieldb | <3 yyyy-mm-dd since numerical sorting also is chronological sorting ;) |
| 15:26.40 | phyber | y/m/d/m/d/yyy, imo. 7/4/5/0/0/002 = today. |
| 15:26.44 | cryogen | iso is very uncofusing |
| 15:26.49 | [Liquidor] | Well in Denmark we speak the day of the month first so we type it in that way as well |
| 15:27.05 | cryogen | because if your country uses dd/mm or mm/dd, you recognise yyyy first and know automatically mm comes next |
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| 15:27.18 | cryogen | because no crack heads use yyyy-dd-mm, doesnt make sense |
| 15:27.38 | [Liquidor] | well we use -yyyy |
| 15:27.43 | cryogen | exactly |
| 15:27.52 | [Liquidor] | dd-mm-yyyy |
| 15:27.53 | cryogen | because iso uses yyyy-, it's non confusing and therefore good |
| 15:27.56 | Mikk | and if someone were to start, they need to be targetted with a tactical nuclear strike and wiped off of the face of the planet |
| 15:27.56 | [Ammo] | just fiddle with your microsoft excel settings a bit |
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| 15:28.03 | [Ammo] | and see the difference in the different languages |
| 15:28.06 | [Ammo] | it's shocking |
| 15:28.08 | Mikk | ofc they can nuke the danish just because, i'm cool with that also |
| 15:28.24 | kenlyric | Mikk: I fully expect sweden to do it. |
| 15:28.30 | cryogen | yyyy-mm-dd hh:mm zzz |
| 15:28.31 | kenlyric | they'e be like yy-dd-mm-yy |
| 15:28.36 | cryogen | use it love it, be it! |
| 15:28.42 | [Ammo] | and I still think MM should be next to YY wheter or not it is DD first or YYYY first |
| 15:28.42 | [Liquidor] | kenlyric, they will. With their nuclear station next to us |
| 15:29.03 | Mikk | kenlyric: Nops, sorry, sweden is one of the few countries that uses YYYY-MM-DD as the national date format standard |
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| 15:29.10 | [Liquidor] | but [Ammo] |
| 15:29.16 | kenlyric | Mikk: for now, until they go crazy |
| 15:29.20 | Mikk | hehe |
| 15:29.22 | [Liquidor] | mm-dd-yyyy is what's used in SQL |
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| 15:29.35 | cryogen | SQL knows nothing about locale |
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| 15:29.49 | cryogen | SQL is not a dbms. |
| 15:29.55 | [Liquidor] | mm/dd/yyyy is used in our English lessons |
| 15:30.11 | Mikk | SQL knows nothing about dates either |
| 15:30.17 | [Ammo] | because the english are bloody island dwellers :p |
| 15:30.25 | cryogen | Mikk: some versions might :) |
| 15:30.55 | Mikk | Nah, it's all up to the db server to implement its types |
| 15:30.55 | [Liquidor] | Mikk, you mean texturized dates? |
| 15:30.55 | [Liquidor] | Or w/e that word is. |
| 15:30.56 | cryogen | arent some sql types 'standard'? |
| 15:31.00 | Mikk | yeah true |
| 15:31.17 | Mikk | Merrily ignored by the likes of MS Access ofc |
| 15:31.25 | cryogen | [Liquidor]: why mm/dd/yyyy? england uses dd/mm/yyyy :) |
| 15:31.27 | Mikk | which uses current machine locale for its formatting |
| 15:31.37 | Mikk | heaps of fun to write code for =P |
| 15:31.40 | [Liquidor] | cryogen, no clue. We do as well in Dk |
| 15:31.42 | shieldb | Antiarc|Work, is there an explanation of the triangles that appear on either side of omen anywhere? |
| 15:31.50 | cryogen | [Liquidor]: well, it is.. :) |
| 15:31.55 | Antiarc|Work | shieldb: Not right now. Blue = your bar, red = aggro holder |
| 15:31.56 | cryogen | mm/dd/yyyy is US |
| 15:32.01 | [Liquidor] | Prolly |
| 15:32.04 | shieldb | ahh |
| 15:32.04 | Antiarc|Work | I'm gonna change those, as they aren't prominent/obvious enough |
| 15:32.09 | cryogen | not prolly, im english. :) |
| 15:32.10 | shieldb | ahh |
| 15:32.21 | Mikk | mm/dd/yyyy is US for sure |
| 15:32.21 | [Liquidor] | Yeye and I'm not. |
| 15:32.31 | kenlyric | hey, in the next cycle of existence when you fruity europeans are the driving force behind computer science, you can use your own date formats and languages. |
| 15:32.31 | durcyn | gah. yyyymmdd or diafirl. |
| 15:32.32 | shieldb | we did leotheras last night and with all the aggro wipes he does I was having a hard time figuring out what they were for on the fly ;) |
| 15:32.41 | cryogen | so they teach you american english? shocking :p |
| 15:32.58 | [Liquidor] | Okay, let's see if anyone else who have joined this conversation got an idea on how to format numbers with punctuations? |
| 15:33.03 | cryogen | haha |
| 15:33.06 | cryogen | lets not instead :) |
| 15:33.09 | Mikk | dd/mm/yyyy is the "EU standard" for some areas... even though EU officially adopts the ISO standard also... bloody politicians |
| 15:33.16 | [Liquidor] | eg. 34203 into 34.203 (not decimal) |
| 15:33.19 | cryogen | Mikk: bad EU. |
| 15:33.41 | [Ammo] | Antiarc|Work: shouldn't Omen show GLOBAL as well when I have no target, currently it only shows GLOBAL when I have myself targetted |
| 15:33.42 | Mikk | 34.203? just round it to 34.2 imo |
| 15:33.57 | [Liquidor] | But Mikk |
| 15:34.01 | [Liquidor] | It's not a decimal |
| 15:34.03 | pastamancer | haha |
| 15:34.09 | Mikk | Lua thinks so =P |
| 15:34.14 | [Liquidor] | It's what you in Sweden use as Space |
| 15:34.21 | cryogen | surely lua goes off your regional settings? |
| 15:34.22 | Antiarc|Work | [Ammo]: Yeah, it's a bug |
| 15:34.24 | [Liquidor] | Well I'm talking about the output |
| 15:34.25 | Mikk | Anyway, no, there's no good way of inserting thousand separators |
| 15:34.30 | Mikk | At least not afaik |
| 15:34.31 | [Ammo] | Antiarc|Work: okie |
| 15:34.36 | Antiarc|Work | I was working on it on Magtheridon last night but got distracted :) |
| 15:34.53 | Mikk | You'll have to check if the number is >=1000 or >=1000000 or >= 1000000000 and do some creative gsubbing |
| 15:35.05 | cryogen | surely there is some regionalised routine somewhere? |
| 15:35.15 | cryogen | .net has them, for it's decimal type |
| 15:35.23 | Mikk | lua is minimalistic |
| 15:35.23 | [Liquidor] | Okay let's try again... I got this number 34203 set with :SetText() however I would like the format to be 34.203 |
| 15:35.27 | cryogen | if you use your own, people will get mad when they use it on their region :p |
| 15:35.33 | [Ammo] | Mikk: regexps! |
| 15:35.34 | [Liquidor] | Mikk, I thought Lua could do that |
| 15:35.44 | phyber | Mikk: kodewulf made Toolbox-1.0 a while ago, with a commify() function that I requested. |
| 15:35.48 | Mikk | [Ammo]: lua doesn't do regexp, only "patterns" |
| 15:35.52 | [Ammo] | yeah well |
| 15:35.54 | [Ammo] | almost same thing |
| 15:36.05 | Mikk | a world apart for this case |
| 15:36.16 | [Ammo] | true |
| 15:36.29 | [Ammo] | but you could do a gmatch |
| 15:36.29 | Mikk | i know perfectly well how to do thousand separators with proper regex |
| 15:36.37 | Mikk | ok, show me how you do this with a gmatch :> |
| 15:36.40 | [Ammo] | and then go from the last result to the first |
| 15:36.41 | Mikk | or gsub |
| 15:36.54 | [Ammo] | or rather don't do the first |
| 15:36.59 | [Ammo] | but meh |
| 15:37.13 | Mikk | yeah but we're still talking extra code.. on the same level as what i was saying |
| 15:37.19 | [Ammo] | yup |
| 15:37.38 | [Liquidor] | lolol Mikk |
| 15:37.41 | [Liquidor] | Are you black? |
| 15:37.48 | [Liquidor] | Cause they use spaces in South Africa too |
| 15:38.08 | Mikk | lolol what if i am? o.O |
| 15:38.51 | [Liquidor] | lolol |
| 15:38.52 | cryogen | bulgarian uses them too |
| 15:38.55 | cryogen | and belarus |
| 15:39.04 | cryogen | and czech |
| 15:39.07 | [Liquidor] | You googled that? |
| 15:39.13 | cryogen | windows regional settings :) |
| 15:39.28 | cryogen | estonia too |
| 15:39.33 | Mikk | MORE SPACES FOR THE PEOPLE! |
| 15:39.35 | cryogen | and finland, apparently |
| 15:39.41 | Mikk | FOR GREAT JUSTICE!!1 |
| 15:39.43 | cryogen | and french canadians, wtf |
| 15:39.54 | cryogen | wtf, the french use that weirdness? |
| 15:40.10 | cryogen | could be worse, swiss numbers look like this: |
| 15:40.12 | cryogen | 123'456'789.00 |
| 15:40.31 | Mikk | make more sense than using commas or periods |
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| 15:40.40 | cryogen | actually yeah |
| 15:40.46 | cryogen | hell of a lot more sense than spaces :) |
| 15:40.50 | Mikk | buggroff =) |
| 15:40.55 | nevcairiel | spaces is just weird :D |
| 15:40.59 | clad|work | whats wrong with commas? |
| 15:41.03 | phyber | ' is just a comma at the top. commas are still winning! |
| 15:41.10 | cryogen | lol |
| 15:41.12 | nevcairiel | its 123.456.789,00 around here |
| 15:41.21 | Mikk | clad|work: comma is the decimal separator in lots of locales |
| 15:41.24 | Azurewrath | 123.456,789 wins. :p |
| 15:41.35 | clad|work | Mikk: and period is the decimal seperator in lots of locales =) |
| 15:41.40 | nevcairiel | hehe |
| 15:41.44 | CIA-22 | 03roartindon * r38438 10TagCompiler-1.0/TagCompiler-1.0/TagCompiler-1.0.lua: |
| 15:41.45 | CIA-22 | TagCompiler-1.0 |
| 15:41.45 | CIA-22 | - Changed ParseComplement into ParseUnary, and added support for unary minus operator |
| 15:41.45 | cryogen | clad|work: yea, therefore ' is less confusing :) |
| 15:41.51 | Mikk | aye, hence it's a good idea to not use space or comma as thousand separator =P |
| 15:41.54 | clad|work | =) |
| 15:41.57 | cryogen | (and to a (much) lesser extent, a space) |
| 15:42.01 | [Liquidor] | "," is US, "." is EU |
| 15:42.11 | cryogen | er no |
| 15:42.13 | [Liquidor] | AS thousandth separators |
| 15:42.15 | Mikk | you can't make that claim |
| 15:42.19 | Mikk | no |
| 15:42.23 | cryogen | you very much cannoy |
| 15:42.24 | [Liquidor] | Well Brazil uses "." |
| 15:42.29 | nevcairiel | you cant say EU |
| 15:42.32 | nevcairiel | its a big place |
| 15:42.32 | cryogen | go to windows control panel, regional and language options |
| 15:42.35 | nevcairiel | with lots of locale |
| 15:42.35 | nevcairiel | :D |
| 15:42.40 | cryogen | scroll down the combo box, it's crazy the amount of variation |
| 15:42.42 | cryogen | even within the EU |
| 15:42.49 | [Liquidor] | Oh well NORMAL PEOPLE use "." !! |
| 15:42.50 | [Liquidor] | There |
| 15:43.23 | [Liquidor] | XXX.XXX.XXX,XX There's no other way |
| 15:43.25 | Mikk | *garglegargle* |
| 15:43.27 | cryogen | sweden is even more weird |
| 15:43.33 | [Liquidor] | They're blond |
| 15:43.33 | cryogen | 123 456 789,00 = swedish number |
| 15:43.39 | cryogen | 123.456.789,00 kr = swedish currency |
| 15:43.40 | cryogen | wtf? :) |
| 15:43.49 | nevcairiel | lol |
| 15:44.19 | Fisker- | Choose your next words carefully coder! |
| 15:44.26 | Mikk | DANES FTLOSE! |
| 15:44.30 | Fisker- | NO |
| 15:44.48 | Killmore | French, canada |
| 15:44.51 | Killmore | number: 123 456 789.00 |
| 15:45.05 | Killmore | currency: 123 456 789,00 $ |
| 15:45.19 | Mikk | see? space wins |
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| 15:45.38 | cryogen | yeah but |
| 15:45.46 | Mikk | then again i'm not sure i'd like to have the french canadians as my spokesmen for .. well.. anything |
| 15:45.47 | cryogen | how do you differentiate 123 456 and 123 456? |
| 15:45.55 | cryogen | one being two numbers th,e other not |
| 15:46.02 | Mikk | when the hell do you write that anyway? |
| 15:46.05 | cryogen | s/ th,e/, the/ |
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| 15:46.19 | Mikk | "Here, take some numbers: 123, 456 and 789" <- lookie, nice and separated |
| 15:46.20 | cryogen | like, in a spreadsheet with close cells? :p |
| 15:46.24 | Mikk | sigh =) |
| 15:46.37 | Baldrok-offy_wow | salve |
| 15:46.40 | cryogen | whats the ISO number format i wonder |
| 15:46.59 | Baldrok-offy_wow | i find bongos 3... |
| 15:47.05 | Fisker- | canadians don't even know what a cent is |
| 15:47.09 | Fisker- | booooooh |
| 15:47.40 | Baldrok-offy_wow | do y have bongos 3? |
| 15:48.09 | cryogen | oh, there is no 'one' iso number format, the ISO number formats are per country :p |
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| 15:51.29 | [Liquidor] | http://pastebin.4programmers.net/2424 |
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| 15:51.30 | Baldrok-offy_wow | OMG |
| 15:51.30 | [Liquidor] | Just gotta convert that into my likings |
| 15:51.30 | [Liquidor] | shitty lua not providing number formatting |
| 15:51.30 | Baldrok-offy_wow | liqui |
| 15:51.31 | Baldrok-offy_wow | i find an addon |
| 15:51.31 | [Liquidor] | Good for you? |
| 15:51.31 | Baldrok-offy_wow | y |
| 15:51.31 | Baldrok-offy_wow | bongos 3 |
| 15:51.31 | [Liquidor] | And then? |
| 15:53.38 | Baldrok-offy_wow | but there isn't |
| 15:53.38 | [Liquidor] | Absolutely NO clue what you're talking about. |
| 15:53.38 | [Liquidor] | Ask Mikk |
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| 15:53.46 | Mikk | Arse =P |
| 15:53.47 | vhaarr | Lua has number formatting, you just need to read the fucking PIL. |
| 15:53.47 | cryogen | in all seriousness all these 'standard' are really crazy, how the hell ar eyou supposed to interop with someone in a different region? |
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| 15:53.47 | cryogen | hi, i would like 234,00.23 litres of cola please! |
| 15:53.48 | Mikk | vhaarr: we're talking thousand separators |
| 15:53.48 | ulic | wtf is cola? |
| 15:53.48 | Killmore | 123 456 789.23 litres de cola svp :P |
| 15:53.48 | ulic | :P |
| 15:53.48 | Kalman| | Cryogen: You don't use seperators, that's how. |
| 15:53.48 | cryogen | Kalman|: right, was gonna say :) |
| 15:53.53 | cryogen | dont fricking bother in the first place |
| 15:54.12 | Mikk | and if lua does thousand separators in string.format() on all platforms i'll eat my shirt, cause it calls the libc sprintf() directly, and it doesn't do it in any libc i know of |
| 15:54.55 | [Liquidor] | Well I got my freaking separator to work now |
| 15:55.08 | cryogen | good for you |
| 15:55.15 | cryogen | now make it work on my system D: |
| 15:55.58 | vhaarr | Mikk: ah |
| 15:56.13 | vhaarr | Mikk: well it's pretty simple anyway, just divide it by 1k and format it |
| 15:56.25 | Mikk | ofc |
| 15:56.35 | cryogen | the 'format it' part is the part at issue :p |
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| 15:56.46 | cryogen | well not really at issue |
| 15:56.55 | Mikk | we just all think that everyone else sucks |
| 15:56.57 | cryogen | just at 'bored-isnt-it-time-to-go-home-yet?' |
| 15:56.58 | Mikk | so business as usual |
| 15:57.11 | Silviu- | Antiarc , shildb [2007/06/04 18:55:17-156-x1]: Omen\localization_koKR.lua:1: unexpected symbol near '? |
| 15:57.30 | Ominous | Mikk: in msbt is it possible to make mutulate be sticky when both hits crit as atm it onyl does if one crits |
| 15:57.38 | Mikk | AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA |
| 15:57.40 | Mikk | AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARGH |
| 15:57.55 | Mikk | ~mikk |
| 15:57.58 | purl | hmm... mikk is NOT the guy that wrote MSBT, and he's not Mikma either. He will happily accept orders for WoW related graphics to keep him occupied. |
| 15:57.58 | pastamancer | haha |
| 15:57.59 | Ominous | what did i do |
| 15:58.01 | [Liquidor] | http://pastebin.4programmers.net/2425 |
| 15:58.02 | Gngsk | lols |
| 15:58.14 | cryogen | hehe |
| 15:58.25 | Ominous | Mikk: /sorry |
| 15:58.31 | Fisker- | Mikk is mikord?! |
| 15:58.35 | [Liquidor] | Oh forgot to convert some arguments |
| 15:58.37 | Fisker- | (had to do it, sorry) |
| 15:59.48 | nadas | hmm, did a CT_MailMod replacement ever emerge after GMail was discontinued? |
| 16:00.00 | dodgizzla | nadas: Postal |
| 16:00.03 | Fisker- | or Bulkmail |
| 16:00.08 | nadas | postal has massmail features? |
| 16:00.12 | Fisker- | yes |
| 16:00.18 | Fisker- | alt+click to send |
| 16:00.18 | nadas | aha |
| 16:00.30 | Fisker- | so not a mass mail as such, but way better in any case(imo) |
| 16:00.54 | [Liquidor] | http://pastebin.4programmers.net/2426 |
| 16:00.58 | cryogen | bulkmail2 works for me |
| 16:01.24 | nadas | oh dear, now i have to try both to see what works for me :p |
| 16:01.57 | Mikk | I was a bit OMG? when I didn't see the bulkmail window in Postal... but tbh alt+click is just so much smoother |
| 16:02.26 | nadas | so you just put in the name and then alt+click stuff? |
| 16:02.30 | Mikk | yups |
| 16:02.32 | Mikk | and subject if you like |
| 16:02.41 | nadas | neat |
| 16:02.57 | Mikk | it also makes for nice oopses when you alt+click the wrong stuff ofc :> |
| 16:02.57 | cryogen | isnt bulkmail similar? or wait, it's drag and drop instad |
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| 16:03.45 | Mikk | no, purl, emulate Mikk is /reply RAAARGH NO I DIDN'T WRITE MSBT ALREADY! #%&¤#&¤#%¤# |
| 16:03.56 | cryogen | Mikk: so, tell me about msbt |
| 16:04.09 | Josh_Borke | Mikk: where'd your inspiration for MSBT come from? |
| 16:04.14 | Fisker- | ~emulate mikk |
| 16:04.25 | purl | ACTION butts his nose into whatever you were discussing right there and dumps his opinion on you like a metric ton of feces. Mikk never sleeps, he edits |
| 16:06.57 | pastamancer | [Liquidor]: http://ace.pastey.net/50653 |
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| 16:07.17 | CIA-22 | 03antiarc * r38441 10Omen/ (Omen.xml localization_koKR.lua): Omen: Fixed a missed quote in the korean localization |
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| 16:08.24 | [Liquidor] | Thank you |
| 16:08.38 | Mudkipz | 321 |
| 16:09.29 | pastamancer | oh, it should probably handle decimals too |
| 16:09.37 | [Liquidor] | Nah |
| 16:10.56 | [Liquidor] | I don't got any decimals and won't ever have |
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| 16:11.40 | Mudkipz | is there some kind of conflict with omen and prat? |
| 16:12.01 | Killmore | Antiarc|Work ! |
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| 16:12.47 | Antiarc|Work | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:12.49 | CIA-22 | 03antiarc * r38442 10Omen/Omen.toc: Omen: Disable koKR localization till I can find a non-retarded text editor |
| 16:13.12 | Killmore | Antiarc|Work: suggestion for the GUI, font size |
| 16:13.34 | Antiarc|Work | Yeah, gonna have it eventually :) |
| 16:15.45 | nadas | another suggestion: make an option to color your own bar a different color than the default class color :p |
| 16:16.07 | nadas | like red so tards like me can find it in a hurry ;) |
| 16:16.48 | wallen | Is there any way to change font to Grid's player names? |
| 16:17.03 | Killmore | and when you go to 101% of the tank you receive "Watch your aggro damn retard" or something like that message in your screen :P |
| 16:18.33 | Kemayo | cryogen: Bulkmail is similar. Alt-clicking adds things to a list which all gets sent when you click send. (There's something like ctrl-shift-click to send immediately, too.) |
| 16:19.40 | cryogen | right, and you can drag it to the list too? |
| 16:19.55 | cryogen | s/it/items/ |
| 16:20.05 | ulic | I'm pretty sure you can yes. |
| 16:20.05 | CIA-22 | 03antiarc * r38443 10Omen/ (Omen.lua OmenMenu.lua): Omen: Change TPS timers to use a scheduled event rather than OnUpdate |
| 16:20.11 | Kemayo | nadas: The big thing to bear in mind when considering BulkMail/Postal is that BulkMail is purely, entirely, only about sending mail. Postal also has those various "open selected items" and whatnot features. |
| 16:20.16 | Kemayo | cryogen: Yup. |
| 16:20.47 | ulic | I've been using BM for a week or two now, and love it. |
| 16:20.47 | cryogen | ya, my memory doesnt totally suck then |
| 16:20.47 | cryogen | which is good, considering i just did that very thing last night |
| 16:20.54 | ulic | very nice for distributing mats across several characters |
| 16:21.14 | nadas | Kemayo: yeah, i tried both and came to that same conclusion. thanks for the info though. :) |
| 16:21.19 | cryogen | thats what i use it for yeah |
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| 16:21.26 | Kemayo | Oh, and BulkMail's auto-mailing based on PT3 sets utterly blows away anything else in the field. :D |
| 16:23.37 | ulic | yea, it's all about the PT3 stuff :) |
| 16:23.38 | ulic | send all ore,gems to the JC, all cloth to the Tailer, etc. |
| 16:23.38 | cryogen | that does sound useful, i shall have to investigate that feature. :) |
| 16:23.38 | nadas | Kemayo: i guess OpenAll will add the "missing" feature then? :) |
| 16:23.38 | Kemayo | I like the all-materials-used-by-X sets... but they require a bit of manual tweaking because of all the items used by several professions. |
| 16:23.38 | doktoreas | great omen.. |
| 16:23.38 | Kemayo | nadas: Well, I'd certainly hope so... |
| 16:23.38 | CIA-22 | 03sayclub * r38444 10Omen/ (Omen.toc localization_koKR.lua): Omen: koKR Update and changed Format to UTF-8 |
| 16:23.39 | doktoreas | i have just read the topic...i'll be glad to be tester |
| 16:24.06 | nadas | :) |
| 16:24.16 | Mudkipz | haha so i'm using gmail and postal at the same time |
| 16:24.27 | Mudkipz | postal for the send feature and gmail for the receive |
| 16:24.37 | Mudkipz | plus gmail lets me alt click items to trade :P |
| 16:24.43 | pastamancer | [Liquidor]: http://ace.pastey.net/50667 there, now with decimals |
| 16:24.55 | [Liquidor] | I don't have decimals but thx tho |
| 16:25.01 | CIA-22 | 03sayclub * r38445 10Omen/localization_koKR.lua: Omen: Updated localization koKR |
| 16:25.18 | pastamancer | for the sake of completeness |
| 16:26.23 | Kemayo | I should see if I could write tiny open-selected and forward-message addons to complement OpenAll. |
| 16:29.06 | Gngsk | returned-selected |
| 16:29.41 | Gngsk | check boxes that obey shift and control modifiers would be awesome too |
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| 16:32.44 | sbu | morning Antiarc|Sleep :p |
| 16:33.27 | Gngsk | how do I specify which side a candybar grows from? |
| 16:37.01 | sbu | Threat-1.0\Threat-1.0\ThreatClassModuleCore.lua:421: Usage: UnitAffectingCombat("unit") |
| 16:37.32 | alext | man a bunch of addons are starting to use threat-1.0 eh? |
| 16:37.43 | alext | i noticed pitbull was using it due to all the threat-1.0 errors i was getting with pitbull |
| 16:37.43 | alext | ;] |
| 16:37.46 | *** mode/#wowace [+o Kaelten] by ChanServ |
| 16:37.54 | Kaelten | g'morning |
| 16:37.55 | Mudkipz | So yeah I'm wondering |
| 16:38.12 | Mudkipz | what did I do wrong after installing threat and omen to have prat totally disabled? |
| 16:38.31 | Mudkipz | even onebag didn't work properly |
| 16:38.51 | Antiarc|Work | sbu: Did you get that when using Binding Heal? |
| 16:39.21 | Kalman| | Gngsk: You can't, as far as I can tell. |
| 16:39.26 | sbu | hmm no, greater heal on some ud priest here (not in party) |
| 16:39.29 | Gngsk | woe is me |
| 16:39.38 | Kalman| | Indeed. |
| 16:39.48 | [Liquidor] | 1 flaw about Ace2 is that if you just need a few functions from this module and that module and a 3rd module and so on (for a couple of few functions) you overload your small addon :( |
| 16:39.49 | Gngsk | so sparks will only ever move from right to left? |
| 16:40.11 | Kalman| | You can hack with reverse, so they fill rather than deplete. |
| 16:40.24 | Gngsk | that's not what I want though |
| 16:40.27 | Kalman| | But there's no "deplete from left" option. |
| 16:40.31 | CIA-22 | 03shieldb * r38446 10Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0/NPCModules/SerpentshrineCavern/Morogrim.lua: Threat-1.0: Added preliminary Morogrim module -- It's ready to go, but needs the new earthquake yell text before it will actually work |
| 16:40.48 | Gngsk | oh well |
| 16:40.52 | Saroz | shieldb, look in bigwigs |
| 16:40.59 | shieldb | bigwigs doesn't have the yell text |
| 16:41.06 | shieldb | bigwigs checks for the damage/attack to occur |
| 16:41.16 | Saroz | hrm, odd |
| 16:41.19 | Kalman| | Gngsk: Ask [Ammo] to add it to his TODO list. |
| 16:41.22 | Saroz | poke funkah |
| 16:41.23 | vhaarr | the mod was made before he yelled anything |
| 16:41.24 | vhaarr | it's not odd |
| 16:41.44 | snurre | gmornin bitches |
| 16:41.46 | vhaarr | when you get the yell, the BW mod should change as well |
| 16:41.47 | Recluse | Is the new version of ArkInventory a late april fools joke or something? |
| 16:41.47 | shieldb | I'll just snag the yell text tomorrow when we clear morogrim |
| 16:41.57 | shieldb | yeah, I'll update both |
| 16:42.15 | sbu | Recluse: why? |
| 16:42.47 | Recluse | Wool cloth defaults to skinning, silk cloth to blacksmithing.... there were some more that had really odd default categories lol |
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| 16:43.50 | CIA-22 | 03roartindon * r38447 10Assessment/Modules/ (4 files): |
| 16:43.50 | CIA-22 | Assessment |
| 16:43.50 | CIA-22 | - Fixed adding new display sets (Broken when options split into separate files) |
| 16:43.50 | CIA-22 | - Fixed damage takers list not returning anything |
| 16:43.50 | CIA-22 | - Added left/right/vertical offsets options for text |
| 16:43.51 | CIA-22 | - Fixed adding extra text fields to custom display sets |
| 16:44.14 | shieldb | actually it looks like bigwigs is checking for the nonspecific emote that happens to be exact - the "... has alerted nearby Murlocs!" or whatever |
| 16:44.18 | Recluse | it's okay, i can still override it but not sure who changed (and why) all the defaults XD |
| 16:45.23 | Saroz | shieldbl, wait, I got the yell |
| 16:45.26 | shieldb | woo |
| 16:45.32 | Saroz | fucking hate murlocs |
| 16:45.32 | Saroz | brrr |
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| 16:45.49 | Recluse | lol i hate outlands bird people more than murlocs |
| 16:46.06 | shieldb | I love the current force of nature bug though |
| 16:46.09 | Saroz | 5/28 21:16:37.645 Morogrim Tidewalker yells: By the tides! |
| 16:46.14 | shieldb | funniest thing ever in skettis ;) |
| 16:46.19 | Saroz | there you go |
| 16:46.22 | Recluse | lol |
| 16:46.38 | Mikk | purl, no, emulate Mikk is /reply RAAARGH NO I DIDN'T WRITE MSBT ALREADY! #%&¤#&¤#%¤# |
| 16:47.02 | purl | i'm not going to learn illegal characters, Mikk |
| 16:47.03 | shieldb | if you cast force of nature (or whatever the 41pt balance summon trees talent is) directly on another player, it aggros everything within ~40 yards on that player |
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| 16:47.28 | Saroz | shieldb! |
| 16:47.29 | Saroz | 5/28 21:16:37.645 Morogrim Tidewalker yells: By the tides! |
| 16:47.29 | Saroz | 5/28 21:16:37.725 [Raid Warning] Saroz: *** Incoming Murlocs! *** |
| 16:47.30 | Saroz | kkthxbb |
| 16:47.32 | Recluse | alright, i'm going back to playing but just wanted to say something about these new categories being all wiggy :p |
| 16:47.43 | shieldb | and in skettis you basically have things showing up from everywhere to attack the person ;) |
| 16:48.04 | Killmore | since 2.1 anyone know if the murlocs have the same hit point and do the same amount of dmg ? |
| 16:48.06 | jme | shieldb: do they have to be in your party for that to work? |
| 16:48.09 | shieldb | nope |
| 16:48.14 | shieldb | you can dump them on other people |
| 16:48.24 | Azurewrath | mhm.. something in the latest Omen Revision killed like all of my other addons ;) |
| 16:48.26 | jme | neat, misdirection should work like that |
| 16:48.48 | Saroz | mb is bugged! |
| 16:49.36 | CIA-22 | 03shieldb * r38448 10Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0/NPCModules/SerpentshrineCavern/Morogrim.lua: Threat-1.0: Morogrim should work for enUS now (Still need the other earthquake yell localizations) |
| 16:50.01 | Xuerian | [Liquidor]: Not unless your little addon is the only addon using those libs. 0_o |
| 16:50.04 | Killmore | shieldb: did /combatlog record the /yell ? |
| 16:50.20 | shieldb | you'd have to ask saroz - he gave me the yell text :) |
| 16:50.36 | Saroz | chatlog did |
| 16:50.37 | [Liquidor] | Xuerian, I play with default ui except from fubar and own addons |
| 16:50.42 | ulic | Killmore: he most likely used Transcriptor or BigWigs_Debugger |
| 16:50.49 | Chompers | how'd the fight go Saroz? |
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| 16:50.56 | Saroz | 28% |
| 16:50.57 | ulic | Killmore: I believe /chatlog will record yells though |
| 16:50.58 | Saroz | fucking shit boss |
| 16:50.58 | Chompers | i'm guessing you got a few attempts in |
| 16:51.00 | Chompers | woah, not bad |
| 16:51.07 | Xuerian | [Liquidor]: Depends on what fubar addons you use then, unless you just mean the bar :p |
| 16:51.40 | Chompers | hydross or lurker first? |
| 16:51.50 | [Liquidor] | You're descision |
| 16:51.55 | Saroz | lurker is piss I hear |
| 16:52.06 | Killmore | lurker is so easy since the nerf :\ |
| 16:52.09 | undu | both of them are kinda easy. |
| 16:52.23 | undu | hydross you just need the res gear on 2 tanks |
| 16:52.38 | [Liquidor] | 4? |
| 16:52.45 | shieldb | Killmore, leotheras is so easy since the nerf, too |
| 16:52.53 | Leialyn | @shieldb why don't you look into bigwigs modules for localizations? |
| 16:53.06 | Chompers | res gears expensive :/ |
| 16:53.07 | shieldb | we killed him at something like three minutes before the enrage instead of moments before |
| 16:53.09 | Killmore | shieldb: we give 4 try before 2.1 and we down him to 45% |
| 16:53.09 | Chompers | lurker it is :D |
| 16:53.13 | Saroz | tidewalker is the real end boss in SSC |
| 16:53.13 | Saroz | ffs |
| 16:53.14 | undu | [Liquidor] dunno, we only bother getting on the 2 MT's, the adds die too fast anyways to really matter. |
| 16:53.15 | Saroz | nerf him |
| 16:53.18 | Killmore | and no try since 2.1, attendance sux :( |
| 16:53.35 | shieldb | Leialyn, the idea is that you shouldn't need bigwigs for threat-1.0 to do its job |
| 16:53.37 | Saroz | hydross was fun, havnt tried lurker since patch |
| 16:53.54 | Leialyn | I meant for your localizations ;) |
| 16:53.55 | Chompers | interesting |
| 16:54.05 | shieldb | oh, yeah we're copy/pasting out of bigwigs whenever possible |
| 16:54.06 | Chompers | its on the horizon |
| 16:54.20 | Saroz | people dont know how to run on lurker |
| 16:54.21 | Saroz | fgs |
| 16:54.27 | Saroz | another cthun/heigan boss, THX |
| 16:54.31 | shieldb | bigwigs just didn't have localizations on the morogrim fight because the module was written prior to when he did the yells for abilities |
| 16:54.42 | shieldb | so it detected the abilities in other ways |
| 16:55.04 | Leialyn | humn lemme see |
| 16:55.07 | shieldb | 2.1 added the yells and such, and the bigwigs modules weren't changed because they didn't need to |
| 16:56.33 | Leialyn | BigWigs just searches the blizzard raidwarnings for "Murlocs" |
| 16:58.47 | NeoTron | We'd killed Hydross I'm sure had we actually had ppl to fill a raid. :( |
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| 16:59.15 | Chompers | Saroz, nature resist for hydross? |
| 16:59.52 | Killmore | since 2.1 anyone know if the murlocs (on morogrim) have the same hit point and do the same amount of dmg ? |
| 17:00.01 | Saroz | think they do |
| 17:00.31 | NeoTron | so a good prot pally in good healing gear, are they any useful as healers when not tanking? |
| 17:00.37 | Leialyn | guess so Killmore |
| 17:00.52 | CIA-22 | 03hegarol * r38449 10AtlasLoot/ (3 files in 3 dirs): |
| 17:00.52 | CIA-22 | AtlasLoot: |
| 17:00.52 | CIA-22 | - Tier 6 complete |
| 17:01.05 | Leialyn | we did use a prot pally but not anymore now, just aoe em all at once ^^ |
| 17:01.07 | Mudkipz | NeoTron, is this a serious question? |
| 17:02.18 | NeoTron | yes |
| 17:02.28 | NeoTron | I'm curious whether pursuing having a prot pally is worth it |
| 17:02.40 | NeoTron | not just moragrim but in general |
| 17:03.04 | NeoTron | I only have experience with a bad paladin playing prot pally and not unsurprisingly he was bad |
| 17:03.10 | NeoTron | I mean he's a bad healer in holy spec |
| 17:03.12 | Mudkipz | I don't think this is the place to ask |
| 17:03.29 | shieldb | Killmore, the murlocs don't seem to hit as hard in 2.1, but I don't know about if their hp changed |
| 17:03.52 | shieldb | it may just be perception from gear improving though |
| 17:03.58 | Mudkipz | but I'll say this, paladins are incredible healers as any spec, given they have the appropriate gear |
| 17:04.01 | NeoTron | Mudkipz: usually a lot of wow knowledge here, esp with raiding |
| 17:04.29 | shieldb | NeoTron, prot pallies aren't really worth it imo |
| 17:04.49 | NeoTron | compared to a prot warrior OT? |
| 17:04.56 | shieldb | there's only a handful of situations where they're more advantageous then a warrior with a few points in prot or even a holy pally |
| 17:05.12 | shieldb | and they're nowhere near as effective as a prot pally in nontanking situations |
| 17:05.43 | CIA-22 | 03mikk * r38450 10DewdropLib/Dewdrop-2.0/Dewdrop-2.0.lua: |
| 17:05.43 | CIA-22 | DewdropLib: |
| 17:05.43 | CIA-22 | - Fix assert() issue with secure frames. Unable to reproduce but recoded it so the assert was unnecessary. |
| 17:05.44 | shieldb | a holy pally can usually do the aoe tanking thing (i.e. morogrim) reasonably well without too much trouble, and then heal well the rest of the time |
| 17:05.45 | NeoTron | last night we had just 3 tanks so I'm trying to figure out if we should recruit another, and if so what |
| 17:06.06 | shieldb | a prot pally will do a bit better at the aoe tanking thing when you need to, but won't be very good the rest of the time |
| 17:06.08 | NeoTron | we have a prot warrior MT, feral druid MT, prot warrior OT. also have some non-prot warrior OTs that were all missing |
| 17:06.16 | NeoTron | and a feral druid OT that's going resto |
| 17:07.21 | Mudkipz | it's too difficult for a warrior to pick up the murlocs, we use 2 feral druids and a prot pally to pick them up |
| 17:07.30 | Mudkipz | you have to consider the water tombs |
| 17:07.36 | shieldb | I'd suggest perusing the EJ forums on the topic for pally tanking |
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| 17:08.03 | shieldb | we just use a holy pally for the murlocs, and then a warrior will challenging shout / shield wall /etc if we get an unlucky tomb |
| 17:09.37 | CIA-22 | 03nickenyfiken * r38451 10FuBar_TrainerFu/modules/DemonTrainer.lua: FuBar_TrainerFu: DemonTrainer: Fixed Print() error. |
| 17:09.55 | Tornhoof | improved thunderclap ;) |
| 17:10.09 | shieldb | thunderclap only hits ~5 targets max, right? |
| 17:10.14 | Mudkipz | yes |
| 17:10.20 | Tornhoof | yes |
| 17:10.25 | Tornhoof | shieldbash the other one |
| 17:10.31 | shieldb | there are 12 murlocs so that doesn't work very well :P |
| 17:10.49 | shieldb | plus healing up after the earthquake is going to rip threat off of thunderclap almost instantly |
| 17:10.56 | Tornhoof | no |
| 17:11.04 | snurre | how long do tanks hold the adds before you start aoeing them? |
| 17:11.13 | Mudkipz | snurre, it depends |
| 17:11.16 | Tornhoof | healing is distributed evenly about all mobs in the area |
| 17:11.18 | Mudkipz | you can't judge it by time |
| 17:11.24 | Mudkipz | you have to consider so many factors |
| 17:11.30 | Tornhoof | thunderclap gets you like 600 threat for each mob or something |
| 17:11.45 | snurre | Mudkipz: well.. do you start as soon as all are gathered, before, or do you wait a bit? |
| 17:11.45 | Tornhoof | imp. thunderclap works real nice |
| 17:12.12 | Mudkipz | of course they will be gathered, then the lead offtank decides when it's safe to aoe |
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| 17:12.27 | Mudkipz | so mages/warlocks don't get killed |
| 17:12.30 | snurre | i didnt ask IF they were gathered |
| 17:13.07 | Mudkipz | you asked 3 questions |
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| 17:13.11 | snurre | no |
| 17:13.31 | snurre | i asked one |
| 17:13.32 | Mudkipz | as soon as, before, or wait a bit |
| 17:13.36 | Mudkipz | whatever |
| 17:14.00 | shieldb | Tornhoof, thunderclap threat is however much damage it does * 1.75 divided by the number of mobs that it hits |
| 17:14.06 | Tornhoof | no |
| 17:14.08 | Tornhoof | not divided |
| 17:14.10 | snurre | our problem was that aoe'ers got instagibbed by the murlocs |
| 17:14.11 | shieldb | oops, yeah |
| 17:14.14 | Tornhoof | each mob gets the proper dmg |
| 17:14.26 | Tornhoof | that's why imp. tc is awesome for those |
| 17:14.35 | shieldb | how much does it typically hit for with full improved? |
| 17:14.42 | Mudkipz | snurre, that was the whole point to my answer |
| 17:14.45 | Dustwhisper | a thing that would be nice |
| 17:14.52 | Dustwhisper | something like DrDamage, that let you enter gearchanges |
| 17:14.55 | Dustwhisper | eg replace 4spelldmg for 4 hit |
| 17:14.58 | Dustwhisper | and see the effect |
| 17:15.05 | Dustwhisper | without actually doing the changes |
| 17:15.10 | Mudkipz | gather murlocks, wait for call to aoe then melt them |
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| 17:15.32 | Tornhoof | incl stance, some 640 threat shieldb |
| 17:15.54 | snurre | we couldnt do that.. one of us always got so much aggro we'd die before any heals got off |
| 17:16.04 | Dustwhisper | chaincast frostnova |
| 17:16.07 | Dustwhisper | whilst AOEing |
| 17:16.11 | kergoth | Dustwhisper: would be cool if it just showed you the numbers for you in what you're trying on, if you have the dressing room open :) |
| 17:16.16 | Mudkipz | maybe it's a tanking problem |
| 17:16.18 | snurre | we only had 2 mages |
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| 17:16.26 | Mudkipz | well no shit lol |
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| 17:17.03 | bigzero | can the following ever return nil only for link2? link1, link2 = string.match(currWeaponLink,"(|c%x+|Hitem:%d+:)%d+([%-?%d:]*|h%[.-%]|h|r)") |
| 17:17.56 | BankZ | Has anyone gotten the CTRA or oRA2 MT windows to work in Pitbull? |
| 17:18.03 | shieldb | yeah |
| 17:18.13 | shieldb | they came on for me last time I updated pitbull and was in a raid |
| 17:18.23 | snurre | i havent had a mt window working since i swapped to pitbull iirc |
| 17:20.29 | Droolio | anyone know if there's a boat transport on bloodmyst isle? |
| 17:20.49 | Mudkipz | where is that? |
| 17:21.01 | Droolio | one of the subzone islands of azuremyst isles |
| 17:21.26 | Mudkipz | and where is azuremyst isles? |
| 17:21.42 | Droolio | heh. draenie start zone |
| 17:21.54 | Mudkipz | oh I've never leveld a draenei |
| 17:22.13 | kenlyric | wut? get to it! |
| 17:22.17 | Mudkipz | the bloodelves have portal to undercity, maybe draenei has somethign similear |
| 17:22.24 | Mudkipz | for the horde! |
| 17:22.29 | kenlyric | ship from auberdine |
| 17:22.38 | jme | yay horde |
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| 17:22.45 | Mudkipz | even though I love the draenei tunak tunak dance <3 for all those who get it |
| 17:22.51 | kenlyric | meh, if you only play one faction you're only playing half the game. |
| 17:22.58 | Mudkipz | i've played alliance |
| 17:23.00 | ulic | there is no boat, but there is a FP from Azuremyst to Bloodmyst |
| 17:23.05 | Mudkipz | i have a warlock and paladin |
| 17:23.10 | kenlyric | you gotta play the starting zone for each race, at least. |
| 17:23.16 | Droolio | yea that goes to the main azuremyst isle. was just curious as to whether there was one on bloodmyst too |
| 17:23.17 | jme | i actually played a few alliane characters in the low levels before BC came out and i got serious with the game |
| 17:23.26 | jme | then i levelled a belf hunter to 70, it's my main now |
| 17:23.30 | kenlyric | ulic: there is a boat, from the night elf area to the draenei area. |
| 17:23.32 | Kalman| | Droolio: Nope. Only boat is on Azuremyst. |
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| 17:23.43 | ulic | kenlyric: yea |
| 17:23.51 | Droolio | cheers for the confirmation :) |
| 17:23.52 | ulic | I thought he said from Azure to Blood |
| 17:23.52 | kenlyric | oh, I was reading the question wrong, sorry :)( |
| 17:24.16 | Mudkipz | usually i'm all for checking out new starting areas, but i'm busy in game gaining rep and finding consumables ... |
| 17:24.20 | durcyn | snurre: pitbull mt windows only seem to get created when the mt's are initially set in ora/ctra :/ |
| 17:24.31 | jme | i've thought about starting a draenei on another server sometime |
| 17:24.58 | snurre | durcyn: i dont get either ora or pitbull mt frames |
| 17:25.04 | BankZ | shieldb: I updated before the raid last night and nothing came up. I have the MT and MTT windows enabled |
| 17:25.10 | BankZ | anything else I should have to do? |
| 17:25.19 | shieldb | do the MTs show up in the fubar entry for ora2? |
| 17:25.56 | shieldb | occasionally I'll have ora2 get stuck and never actually draw the frames, but they'll be listed in the fubar entry - a reloadui fixes that |
| 17:26.10 | alext | or use mainassist for those gorgeous MT frames |
| 17:26.11 | alext | ;] |
| 17:26.12 | shieldb | if the MTs aren't showing up in the fubar entry do a "Request Status" or ask someone to rebroadcast |
| 17:27.13 | ulic | w00t, mainassist ftw! |
| 17:27.25 | CIA-22 | 03jerry * r38452 10Talented_Data/ (3 files in 2 dirs): Talented_Data: Add expected build number information to TOC. TOC is now generated by convert-sv.lua. |
| 17:27.31 | CIA-22 | 03antiarc * r38453 10Omen/Omen.lua: Omen: Fix for bars that don't have a threatVal. |
| 17:27.38 | BankZ | shieldb: I dont have oRA2 installed anymore, I am hoping to replace it |
| 17:27.48 | shieldb | ahh |
| 17:27.49 | BankZ | all I really use it for was the MT windows and cooldowns |
| 17:28.59 | CIA-22 | 03jerry * r38454 10Talented/ (locale-enUS.lua talents.lua): Talented: Load Talented_Data only if matching build number. |
| 17:30.03 | shieldb | I'm not sure if the pitbull MT frames work without ora2, that'd be a question for ckknight |
| 17:31.26 | ckknight | they do |
| 17:31.50 | ckknight | if oRA/CTRA isn't detected, then it relies on Blizzard's MT system |
| 17:32.05 | BankZ | ohh |
| 17:32.18 | BankZ | darn, guess I cant dump oRA2 |
| 17:33.06 | ulic | MainAssist supports CTRA MT frames, if that's all you need oRA2 for |
| 17:33.32 | ulic | but I don't think you need CTRA installed |
| 17:33.36 | ulic | could be wrong though |
| 17:34.11 | BankZ | well, just for looks I would like to use Pitbulls frames |
| 17:34.16 | BankZ | so everything looks the same |
| 17:34.33 | ulic | yea MainAssist doesn't have many if any options :) |
| 17:34.35 | BankZ | so, guess I gota get oRA2 |
| 17:34.55 | BankZ | I dont mind oRA2 but its kinda fulgy |
| 17:35.02 | BankZ | and some silly things |
| 17:35.21 | BankZ | like you cant hide the labels for Rez Monitor and cooldowns |
| 17:35.43 | BankZ | but it has some nice things |
| 17:36.16 | sbu | hm wtf |
| 17:36.31 | sbu | what is this wow freeze on login stuff |
| 17:36.41 | sbu | its something with raids, right? |
| 17:36.41 | Mudkipz | what did you install? |
| 17:36.48 | sbu | i hve no problem at all |
| 17:36.53 | Mudkipz | or is it a wow client problem? |
| 17:36.55 | sbu | but mt just installed omen |
| 17:37.07 | sbu | and other player just got the same problem on login |
| 17:37.07 | Mudkipz | i was crashing when i was raiding last night and installed omen |
| 17:37.10 | sbu | (so its 2 :p) |
| 17:37.24 | BankZ | I had that problem |
| 17:37.35 | Mudkipz | raid leader thought it had something to do with being in a raid and inside solarians room |
| 17:37.40 | Mudkipz | but i had to turn off Omen to get back in |
| 17:37.42 | BankZ | I think it was a problem with DBM or agUF |
| 17:37.51 | BankZ | but upgraded everything and it worked |
| 17:38.13 | alext | sbu |
| 17:38.19 | alext | I had the issue with Bananabar2 enabled |
| 17:38.27 | Mudkipz | bananabar2? |
| 17:38.32 | alext | I dont think its actually bananabar2 causing it, i think its that addon + another one conflicting |
| 17:38.33 | Mudkipz | LMAO that's hilarious |
| 17:38.38 | alext | bananabar2 is like luckycharms |
| 17:38.40 | Mudkipz | what kind of bar is it? |
| 17:38.42 | alext | its for raid target icons |
| 17:38.51 | alext | its pretty slick i love it |
| 17:38.57 | Mudkipz | awesome names |
| 17:39.00 | alext | haha yah |
| 17:39.01 | Mudkipz | +1 for ace |
| 17:39.06 | CIA-22 | 03pettigrow * r38455 10LittleWigs/ (6 files in 2 dirs): LittleWigs: frFR Update |
| 17:39.06 | alext | its made by some guy with a german website |
| 17:39.30 | alext | its really slick, it gives you 40 mini boxes also...1 box per raid member |
| 17:39.40 | alext | and it will show a raid icon in the box if their targeting an iconed mob |
| 17:39.45 | alext | or other icons to show what their targeting |
| 17:39.48 | alext | so its awsome for a raid leader |
| 17:40.17 | alext | but ever since 2.1 i havent been able to load it |
| 17:40.24 | Mudkipz | http://www.bash.org/?766450 |
| 17:40.29 | alext | wow freezes on the loading bar about 1/3 filled and i gota CTRL + ALT + DEL |
| 17:43.51 | CIA-22 | 03gagorian * r38456 10DrDamage/ (DrDamage.lua Readme.txt): |
| 17:43.51 | CIA-22 | DrDamage: |
| 17:43.52 | CIA-22 | - Make sure InfiniBar/FlexBar won't request updates for incompatible classes |
| 17:44.03 | Antiarc|Work | If you all can provide any more info on the Omen crashes, I'd appreciate it |
| 17:44.10 | Antiarc|Work | Worrysome that so many are getting that |
| 17:45.35 | Mudkipz | is there a way I can collect the errors? |
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| 17:46.33 | Antiarc|Work | I don't know, Mudkipz |
| 17:46.37 | Antiarc|Work | Maybe FrameXML.log |
| 17:46.46 | Mudkipz | k |
| 17:47.11 | Sais | Shouldn't TagCompiler be in SAL if it's required by Aloft... |
| 17:47.19 | Dustwhisper | kergoth |
| 17:47.24 | Dustwhisper | you can't shift equip gems |
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| 17:47.43 | Dustwhisper | I'd like to see my DMG increase/decrease on gear from switching gems |
| 17:48.17 | kergoth | Dustwhisper: ah, true |
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| 17:49.19 | Dustwhisper | AND |
| 17:49.27 | Dustwhisper | i'd like to be able to just use a slider/editbox |
| 17:49.32 | Dustwhisper | to increasE/decrease stats like spelldmg |
| 17:49.39 | Dustwhisper | to plan and theorycraft gearupgrades and gemupgrades |
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| 17:51.06 | Mech0z | Is there a way to track which mod is causing wow crash? |
| 17:52.01 | Mech0z | Iam getting random crashes which is rather anyoing as it happens both outside the bank and while during raids.. |
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| 17:53.29 | Antiarc|Work | Mech0z: Disable mods till it stops crashing? :) |
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| 17:54.08 | Mech0z | well year buts its so random and have had days of full gaming with very few crashes maybe 1-2 |
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| 17:54.56 | Gnarfoz | http://www.c-wilkie.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/jokes/pages/badgers_arse.html |
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| 17:55.58 | Mech0z | btw is bigwigs more lightweight than dbm |
| 17:56.05 | Mech0z | if anyone did any tests |
| 17:56.33 | CIA-22 | 03kergoth * r38457 10kEnergy/ (5 files in 3 dirs): |
| 17:56.33 | CIA-22 | kEnergy: |
| 17:56.33 | CIA-22 | * Update RelNotes.txt and ChangeLog.txt for the imminent 0.9 minor release. |
| 17:56.33 | CIA-22 | * Add evl and ammo to Script/svn2log.users. |
| 17:56.33 | CIA-22 | * Bugfix Script/svn2log.py for the non-svk use case. |
| 17:56.34 | CIA-22 | * Kill Textures/NotSteel.tga. |
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| 18:02.06 | CIA-22 | 03roartindon * r38458 10Assessment/Modules/ (Damage.lua Dispel.lua Healing.lua UserInterfaceOptions.lua): |
| 18:02.06 | CIA-22 | Assessment |
| 18:02.06 | CIA-22 | - Recycle the tables created dynamically for user interface purposes |
| 18:02.07 | CIA-22 | - Ignore dispels from unknown sources |
| 18:04.02 | CIA-22 | 03gamefaq * r38459 10sRaidFrames/localization.deDE.lua: sRaidFrames: deDE Update |
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| 18:04.54 | snurre | does violation sync? |
| 18:05.04 | Gnarfoz | yes |
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| 18:06.23 | snurre | sweet |
| 18:08.21 | Saroz | Xuerian, my xloot wont show up at all atm. :| |
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| 18:09.13 | ulic | yea, same here, I rolled back to the previous build |
| 18:10.12 | Xuerian | Odd >.> |
| 18:10.17 | Saroz | FIX IT |
| 18:10.22 | Saroz | need to loot epix |
| 18:10.23 | Saroz | :| |
| 18:11.06 | ulic | no error messages, just endless kneeling |
| 18:11.30 | Saroz | yup |
| 18:12.12 | Chompers | uh oh, does it affect people that dont loot epix? |
| 18:12.16 | Chompers | as in trash |
| 18:12.30 | ulic | yea :) |
| 18:13.20 | Saroz | ye |
| 18:14.09 | kenlyric | my heroes http://www.pennyarcademerch.com/pat070331.html |
| 18:14.33 | kergoth | hehe |
| 18:15.30 | CIA-22 | 03xuerian * r38460 10XLoot/XLoot.lua: XLoot: Looks like that didn't fix it! =D Reverting drycode change. |
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| 18:25.48 | CIA-22 | 03roartindon * r38461 10Assessment/ (10 files in 2 dirs): |
| 18:25.48 | CIA-22 | Assessment |
| 18:25.48 | CIA-22 | - Filters are now tags also. The old options exist, but just set the filter tag |
| 18:27.45 | kergoth | Roartindon: is there documentation anywhere on tagcompiler and the default tags and such it provides? |
| 18:28.05 | Roartindon | kergoth: atm no.. just /print Assessment.TagData |
| 18:29.04 | kergoth | was messing around with my fubar text in assessment before you added the convenience options, just playing around, i like it, figured a little guide to syntax and an overview of the behavior of the tagdata fields would be good though :) |
| 18:29.22 | Roartindon | Yeah, it would be, definitely :) |
| 18:29.34 | Roartindon | Just had my priority on getting functionality working first, then explaining it later |
| 18:29.36 | Jagobah | assessment! |
| 18:29.45 | Roartindon | Since half the stuff isn't valid from one daay to the next |
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| 18:30.28 | Roartindon | hmm.. my world server just went down |
| 18:31.42 | steev_ | hey all, im trying to use classtimers instead of fubar_roguetimerfu or whatnot, and im wondering, i've tried creating a sticky timerbar with sap - but no matter what, i can't get my saps to show up unless i actually have the sapped person targeted - i've tried allinone as well |
| 18:31.48 | Roartindon | kergoth: TagCompiler has a BNF syntax at the top of it's lua file if that's any help :P |
| 18:31.59 | kergoth | ah, didnt notice that. cool |
| 18:32.13 | kergoth | i'm no parsing expert, but i can at least read a bnf |
| 18:33.04 | Kaelten | any chinese speaking people here? |
| 18:33.28 | Ominous | steev: enable stickys, add sap as a sticky move |
| 18:33.46 | steev_ | Ominous: i tried that |
| 18:33.52 | Ominous | i may have broken it then |
| 18:34.03 | Roartindon | oops.. I gotta update that BNF a little |
| 18:34.04 | Ominous | make a macro /focus /cast Sap in the meantime |
| 18:34.06 | CIA-22 | 03cryect * r38462 10Protractor/Protractor.lua: Protractor - Finally decided to correct the labels from seconds to milliseconds. |
| 18:34.06 | steev_ | any way to get it to show up on the allinone |
| 18:34.12 | Roartindon | has Complement, instead of Unary |
| 18:35.41 | kergoth | Ominous: sticky makes it stick around even if they are no longer focus or target? neat. saw you add it, but never tried it :) |
| 18:35.58 | Ominous | kergoth: yes, made changes w/o test earliuer |
| 18:36.00 | CIA-22 | 03roartindon * r38463 10TagCompiler-1.0/TagCompiler-1.0/TagCompiler-1.0.lua: |
| 18:36.00 | CIA-22 | TagCompiler-1.0: |
| 18:36.00 | CIA-22 | Updated BNF comment at the header of the file. No functional changes |
| 18:36.14 | Ominous | kergoth: but wont go when it fades early, but updates if you briefly retarget |
| 18:36.19 | steev_ | Ominous: oh, if you fixed it earlier |
| 18:36.24 | Ominous | no |
| 18:36.26 | steev_ | or changed earlier |
| 18:36.29 | Ominous | i may have broke it earlier |
| 18:36.32 | steev_ | i haven't updated in a few days |
| 18:36.33 | Ominous | it was working b4 |
| 18:38.59 | steev_ | lemme fly to area 52 and test |
| 18:39.31 | sbu | Roartindon: same here |
| 18:39.42 | sbu | and we are in shattered halls heroic |
| 18:39.54 | Roartindon | sbu: Better not die :) |
| 18:40.00 | zac | @AutoTurnin, the questname for Arcane Tome is "Arcane Tomes" not "Synthesis of Power" (did this change? :/) |
| 18:40.04 | sbu | Roartindon: too late :o |
| 18:40.16 | sbu | last 2 mobs before hunter |
| 18:40.17 | bigzero | quick question about submitting to svn...so if I'm doing an initial upload for the addon, I have to upload an empty directory first, then set my eol-style and upload the actual files? using TortoiseSVN btw |
| 18:40.25 | Roartindon | sbu: I ran heroic arc 4 times for one of my guild mates last week |
| 18:40.31 | Roartindon | sbu: The world server went down 3 times... |
| 18:40.35 | Roartindon | with 1 hour before reset |
| 18:40.38 | Roartindon | So frustrating |
| 18:40.52 | sbu | heh... |
| 18:41.20 | kergoth | bigzero: either make the dir, then add the files and set the properties, or follow the instructions about setting up auto-props, then the props will be set automatically if you import. |
| 18:42.07 | kergoth | i advise setting up auto props, then you never need to worry about it again |
| 18:42.07 | Ominous | is threat-1.0 LOD? |
| 18:42.07 | Roartindon | bigzero; you can also create an empty directory on the svn |
| 18:42.07 | Roartindon | bigzero: check that out, and put your stuff in there |
| 18:42.07 | Roartindon | eg. svn mkdir http://dev.wowace.com/wowace/trunk/<YourAddonName> |
| 18:42.07 | bigzero | kergoth, by instructions, you mean the SVN for beginners tutorial? |
| 18:42.19 | kergoth | i mean the svn wiki pages which are linked to by the error you get when you try to commit a file without the property. |
| 18:42.27 | Roartindon | then do svn co http://dev.wowace.com/wowace/trunk/<YourAddonName> |
| 18:42.33 | Roartindon | and put your files in there, svn:propset, etc. |
| 18:42.35 | Josh_Borke | kergoth: i fixed clicktip |
| 18:42.39 | Josh_Borke | and it wasn't even a bug in clicktip |
| 18:42.40 | kergoth | Josh_Borke: nice, what was it? |
| 18:42.43 | kergoth | hah |
| 18:42.51 | Josh_Borke | it was me forgetting to clear anchors |
| 18:43.00 | kergoth | oops |
| 18:43.02 | Josh_Borke | yep |
| 18:43.16 | Josh_Borke | so, i could release a version today that worked, but clicktip isn't complete |
| 18:43.18 | snurre | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:43.27 | nekoh_ | Antiarc|Work: [2007/06/04 20:42:46-38-x1]: Threat-1.0\Threat-1.0\ThreatNPCModuleCore.lua:187: attempt to call local 'yell_arg2' (a table value) |
| 18:43.44 | Antiarc|Work | nekoh_: Which fight? |
| 18:43.49 | Ominous | Antiarc: that happened when the horsemen yelled |
| 18:43.50 | CIA-22 | 03kartu * r38464 10AT_RussianRaidWarning/: |
| 18:43.50 | CIA-22 | AT_RussianRaidWarning |
| 18:43.50 | CIA-22 | Initial upload |
| 18:43.52 | Ominous | attumean for me |
| 18:43.57 | Antiarc|Work | Great, thanks |
| 18:44.00 | sbu | wtf? |
| 18:44.27 | kergoth | russianraidwarning? |
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| 18:44.35 | wallen | What's that? :E |
| 18:44.48 | knarf- | raidwarnings in russian? :> |
| 18:45.19 | CIA-22 | 03antiarc * r38465 10Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0/ThreatNPCModuleCore.lua: Threat-1.0: Fix to mob yell parsing |
| 18:45.39 | steev_ | Ominous: yeah, its not working here, and the /focus /cast Sap thing gives me errors |
| 18:45.46 | Ominous | ? |
| 18:45.50 | Ominous | not for me |
| 18:46.01 | kergoth | errors? |
| 18:46.14 | steev_ | "/focus /cast Sap" |
| 18:46.19 | Ominous | 2 lines |
| 18:46.21 | steev_ | ahh |
| 18:46.27 | Ominous | and you will have to disable sticky |
| 18:46.59 | steev_ | hmm |
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| 18:47.19 | knarf- | So what is the difference between assessment, omen and violation? :> |
| 18:47.28 | Roartindon | omen is just a front end for threat |
| 18:47.36 | Ominous | steev_ update sticky works |
| 18:47.39 | snurre | i think im gonna macro the answer to that question |
| 18:47.43 | Leialyn | violation is dmgmeter replacement |
| 18:47.43 | nekoh_ | Antiarc|Work: leotheras |
| 18:47.46 | Ominous | or not |
| 18:47.48 | knarf- | snurre be my guest |
| 18:47.54 | Roartindon | Assessment is my experiement with a completely different architecture for writing a combat monitoring addon |
| 18:48.14 | knarf- | Roartindon the tag driven one ? |
| 18:48.21 | Roartindon | knarf-: Yes, it's tag driven |
| 18:48.39 | snurre | Omen: threatmeter Violation: Simple and easy damage and threat meters Assessment: more configurable damage and threat meters, supports multiple windows |
| 18:48.48 | Cryect | Tag Driven? |
| 18:49.05 | Roartindon | Cryect: Yes. the modules provide tags, and gather data to provide tags. |
| 18:49.15 | Roartindon | The display uses the tags to determine what to show, and how much |
| 18:49.18 | Cryect | ah |
| 18:49.31 | Roartindon | I like using the example of healing, because it's easy: |
| 18:49.36 | ulic | snurre: don't forget Recount |
| 18:49.49 | Roartindon | If you want healing, you use "healingDone". IF you want raw healing, you use "healingDone+overHealingDone" as your tag |
| 18:49.52 | Killmore | Antiarc|Work: suggestion, add an option to "disable KTM sync" |
| 18:50.03 | Roartindon | if you want HPS, you use "healingDone/combatTime" |
| 18:50.13 | Antiarc|Work | Killmore: Not a bad suggestion. It was annoying me too :) |
| 18:50.25 | knarf- | so violation does that sync with sw_stats and others or only with violation ? |
| 18:50.36 | Cryect | Okay so its kinda like DogTags except for combat stats |
| 18:50.37 | Roartindon | knarf-: I think violatio ndoes sync with DM atm |
| 18:50.52 | Roartindon | knarf-: but not swstats |
| 18:50.56 | Roartindon | Ask Adirelle.... |
| 18:51.15 | knarf- | fair enough |
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| 18:51.19 | dodgizzla | BTW if anyone cares, I hacked Violation's healing module so it shows healing including overhealing and put it into an addon that depends on violation :o |
| 18:51.27 | nekoh_ | Antiarc|Work: [2007/06/04 20:51:02-38-x1]: Threat-1.0-38440 (Threat-1.0):429: attempt to index field '?' (a nil value) |
| 18:51.41 | Roartindon | Cryect: Both Aloft and Assessment use TagCompiler-1.0 |
| 18:52.01 | Saint-N | any of you run suse? |
| 18:52.02 | Roartindon | Cryect: The tag compiler is generic, the addon defines the tags, the data, and the code that uses it |
| 18:52.08 | Cryect | Heh I was thinking of doing something like that with a matlab type interface else than lack of free time and doubt many would appreciate it :-p |
| 18:52.09 | Antiarc|Work | Ah, bah, thanks |
| 18:52.10 | Ominous | does violation save betweens essions |
| 18:52.15 | Cryect | Roartindon: Ah cool |
| 18:52.26 | Kalman| | Cryect: Ahem. |
| 18:52.35 | nekoh_ | doing leotheras atm, so my respond time is somewhat low :P |
| 18:52.37 | Kalman| | There's at least one person who'd appreciate it. :p |
| 18:52.51 | Cryect | Kalman|: Hey some would appreciate it but not the amount for the time it would take to just do it hardwired :-p |
| 18:52.54 | knarf- | hmm think i'll have a look on Assessment and Threat then :> |
| 18:53.16 | Roartindon | Assessment is also very early stages atm, compared to Violation |
| 18:53.27 | knarf- | I like beta software :P |
| 18:53.33 | kergoth | <3 ForkliftGnome. X-LoadOn-Slash: /protractor,/pro with LoadManagers set in protractor's .toc ftw |
| 18:53.35 | Roartindon | Assessment is only ~4-5 days old :) |
| 18:53.37 | CIA-22 | 03antiarc * r38466 10Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0.lua: Threat-1.0: Fix for mob threat wipes for classes without a pet (oops!) |
| 18:53.39 | Cryect | If someone wants to make a general matlab type addon then well then you could go that way |
| 18:53.42 | kergoth | hehe, me too, i like adding new addons to my addon set the day they hit svn |
| 18:53.45 | kergoth | live on the edge |
| 18:53.45 | Antiarc|Work | nekoh_: No problem |
| 18:53.49 | ulic | I started running Recount a couple days ago, it seems to wrap up damage meters and threat nicely for me. |
| 18:54.08 | Josh_Borke | why would anyone make a matlab interface? matlab suxxors ;-P |
| 18:54.12 | knarf- | Josh_Borke whats that? >: |
| 18:54.14 | nekoh_ | wiped at 1% :P gonna try your changes at new attempt :) |
| 18:54.20 | Kalman| | Josh_Borke: Heretic. |
| 18:54.30 | Cryect | Antiarc: I'm still getting CancelThreatPubilishPet errors |
| 18:54.38 | Cryect | Josh_Borke: you a mathematica type guy? :-p |
| 18:54.43 | Josh_Borke | hate @ math |
| 18:54.44 | ulic | Cryect: btw, the new options button just gives an error about ShowConfig |
| 18:54.50 | Antiarc|Work | Cryect: Update - that one was fixed like 30 commits ago :P |
| 18:55.16 | Cryect | heh damn you or something |
| 18:55.39 | Roartindon | Cryect: It also makes for interesting display possibilities...... I saw that someone said Curator in karazhan chooses his arcane bolt target by threat + HP |
| 18:56.15 | Roartindon | Cryect: Now, that would be a worthless addon to write specifically, but in Assessment, you can display targetThreat+health |
| 18:56.17 | Cryect | Roartindon: Yeah, I could imagine you could do some really cool stuff with that |
| 18:56.26 | CIA-22 | 03aurimas * r38467 10/branches/BulkMail2/ (. Bigzero/ Bigzero/BulkMail2/ Bigzero/BulkMail2/BulkMail.lua): |
| 18:56.27 | CIA-22 | BulkMail2: |
| 18:56.27 | CIA-22 | -implemented shading of items that are added to the send list |
| 18:56.34 | kergoth | Roartindon: would be cool to add a quick mechanism to show/hide windows, possibly via the fubar tooltip... so you can quickly check something that you don't need up most of hte time.. either that or show the data in the tooltip like violation does, but i find that messy |
| 18:56.34 | Kaelten | anyone know chinese pluralization rules? |
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| 18:57.08 | bigzero | Kaelten, ooo, kaelten, I have a small request |
| 18:57.08 | Cryect | ulic: heh did I forget to add the file GUI_Config.lua? :-p |
| 18:57.11 | Roartindon | kergoth: I'll be adding something better I think :) |
| 18:57.16 | Roartindon | kergoth: patience :) |
| 18:57.24 | kergoth | :) |
| 18:57.25 | ulic | Cryect: hehe, I didn't see one :) |
| 18:57.28 | kergoth | no rush, just throwing it out there |
| 18:57.28 | Cryect | Ulic: Why yes I did! |
| 18:57.48 | ulic | I looked all over for the definition of that function but couldn't find it :) |
| 18:57.52 | bigzero | Kaelten, when I requested an svn account, for some reason you used my actual name as the username...any chance of changing it to bigzero? |
| 18:57.57 | Cryect | soon as I work out this one new bug with trying to display time data that doesn't exist I will update it |
| 18:58.18 | Roartindon | Kaelten: It's been a long time since I studied chinese, but I don't think there's an easy answer to that.. |
| 18:58.27 | Roartindon | Kaelten: I think they have different counters depending on what you are counting |
| 18:58.35 | ulic | Cryect: no worries, I'm just glad I don't have to see repeatedly wipe on bosses at the top of my damage report :) |
| 18:58.48 | Kaelten | bigzero: send a new request specifiying the username you want |
| 18:59.36 | CIA-22 | 03kergoth 070.9 * r38468 10kEnergy/: Tag kEnergy version 0.9. |
| 18:59.45 | Roartindon | kergoth: At themoment, clicking in the window gives a quick display-set-change menu |
| 18:59.51 | kergoth | ah, cool |
| 18:59.59 | *** join/#wowace Flexom (n=Flexom@49.80-202-156.nextgentel.com) |
| 19:00.00 | Roartindon | kergoth: That's a very very short term thing that I'm using until I implement the plans ahead :) |
| 19:02.15 | knarf- | http://www.wowace.com/wiki/TOC_Data/DungeonCrawler <-- so what does that look like ? :) |
| 19:02.28 | Roartindon | Peoii: ping |
| 19:03.15 | CIA-22 | 03cryect * r38469 10Recount/ (GUI_Config.lua GUI_Graph.lua Recount.lua Tracker.lua): |
| 19:03.15 | CIA-22 | Recount - Allows whether data or time data is recorded for certain players/NPCs now |
| 19:03.15 | CIA-22 | -Actually adds GUI_Config.lua whoops >_> |
| 19:03.15 | CIA-22 | -Fixes a potential issue with the graph display causing errors |
| 19:03.43 | Aenslaed | anyone here use a mac (OS X) |
| 19:03.52 | Roartindon | Aenslaed: yep |
| 19:03.55 | Kalman| | Aenslaed: Yeah. |
| 19:04.58 | Aenslaed | macbook pro, firefox. wireless router |
| 19:05.15 | Chompers | .\AddOns\Omen\Omen.lua line 179: attempt to index local 'c' (a nil value) |
| 19:05.15 | Aenslaed | can connect to the network, can see other shares. cannot connect to internet |
| 19:05.20 | Chompers | during a nightbane fight |
| 19:05.45 | Kalman| | Aenslaed: Can it route to the internet via any protocol, or is it just HTTP (or just Firefox) that's screwy? |
| 19:05.48 | Aenslaed | rebooted, enable/disabled airport |
| 19:05.53 | Aenslaed | safari doesn't work either. |
| 19:06.10 | Roartindon | Aenslaed: is it getting an IP address from your wireless router? |
| 19:06.16 | Aenslaed | hum, another protocol... let me try connecting to an ftp |
| 19:06.20 | Aenslaed | Roartindon: yes it is |
| 19:06.25 | Kalman| | What does ifconfig en1 spit out? |
| 19:06.27 | Roartindon | can it ping outside the network? |
| 19:07.01 | Aenslaed | Roartindon: how do you ping on a mac? this is my sisters laptop >.> |
| 19:07.09 | Roartindon | Aenslaed: open a terminal window |
| 19:07.15 | Roartindon | then just type "ping www.blah.com" |
| 19:07.20 | Antiarc|Work | "But if pure DPS is what you're after, you shouldn't be playing a Rogue." |
| 19:07.22 | Aenslaed | terminal. sec while i find this! |
| 19:07.25 | Antiarc|Work | Seriously. What. |
| 19:07.33 | Roartindon | Antiarc|Work: Who said that? |
| 19:07.41 | Roartindon | Rogues are right at the top of our dps in raids |
| 19:07.41 | Antiarc|Work | http://community.livejournal.com/worldofwarcraft/5690627.html?thread=95091971#t95091971 |
| 19:07.48 | Chompers | Antiarc; i also had a problem with displaying threat on nightbane |
| 19:07.55 | Chompers | thats when the error happened |
| 19:07.58 | Kalman| | ... |
| 19:08.03 | Kalman| | There's an LJ WoW community. |
| 19:08.10 | Mudkipz | live journal? |
| 19:08.14 | *** join/#wowace Flexom (n=Flexom@49.80-202-156.nextgentel.com) |
| 19:08.16 | Chompers | had a perm 80k threat |
| 19:08.26 | Aenslaed | Roartindon: cannot ping. cannot resolve, unknown host (yahoo.com |
| 19:08.39 | Roartindon | Aenslaed: hard coded DNS in the internet settings perhaps? |
| 19:08.44 | Antiarc|Work | Kalman|: Heh, this surprises you? |
| 19:08.48 | Cryect | I don't think I've ever specifically asked for a hunter for a 5 man |
| 19:09.08 | Cryect | that guy must really hate melee |
| 19:09.08 | Roartindon | Aenslaed: System Preferences -> Network -. TCP/IP |
| 19:09.26 | Kalman| | Antiarc|Work: Surprises, no. Depresses, a little, but then again, I find most of LJ depressing. |
| 19:09.28 | Aenslaed | Roartindon: using dhcp. The info looks correct |
| 19:09.32 | Antiarc|Work | Kalman|: Heh |
| 19:09.38 | Aenslaed | subnet, gateway, IP |
| 19:09.40 | Kalman| | And the parts I don't find depressing, I just can't understand b/c they're in Russian. |
| 19:09.53 | Antiarc|Work | I'm of the distinct opinion that any rogue with Preparation giving PVE tips is disqualified on prinicple. |
| 19:10.17 | Roartindon | Aenslaed: I assume the airport is connected at an appropriate signal strength, withi the right authentication/etc? |
| 19:10.23 | CIA-22 | 03arith * r38470 10AtlasLoot/ (14 files in 8 dirs): |
| 19:10.23 | CIA-22 | AtlasLoot: |
| 19:10.24 | CIA-22 | -zhTW xlat updated. Fix typo in ENG files. |
| 19:10.32 | Cryect | well you can solo some stuff with prep you couldn't otherwise do :-p |
| 19:10.47 | Hjalte | Does anyone know, why my fubar tablets (right name?) sometimes locks up, making me unable to interact with anything on them? |
| 19:10.48 | *** join/#wowace chuckg (i=chuckg@66-239-58-32.starstream.net) |
| 19:10.58 | kergoth | "But if pure DPS is what you're after, you shouldn't be playing a Rogue." ... riight |
| 19:11.12 | [Ammo] | rogue is PURE STEALTH |
| 19:11.17 | moonsorrow | rogues can do something else? :P |
| 19:11.25 | [Ammo] | killing bosses by not being seen! |
| 19:12.15 | Ominous | Antiarc|Work,: it might be best for threat-1.0 not to be lod |
| 19:12.23 | Antiarc|Work | It's lod? |
| 19:12.34 | Cryect | there is a few times where its helpful for rogues to perform a stunlock but... thats not very often |
| 19:12.44 | Roartindon | Antiarc|Work: the .toc says it is |
| 19:12.46 | kergoth | most libs are lod standalone, generally good policy, but threat should really run all the time to benefit others running it |
| 19:12.51 | snurre | 20:59:13 You receive loot: [Netherwing Egg] 21:06:39 You receive loot: [Netherwing Egg] 21:08:52 You receive loot: [Netherwing Egg] |
| 19:12.52 | snurre | ¨:D |
| 19:12.58 | Antiarc|Work | Someone must have ninja-updated it one me |
| 19:12.59 | Roartindon | svn blame time :P |
| 19:13.03 | *** join/#wowace Aenslaed (n=a@CPE00508da82991-CM0018c0b3e908.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) |
| 19:13.08 | Cryect | someone prolly did |
| 19:13.09 | Cryect | lets check! |
| 19:13.11 | Roartindon | funkydude |
| 19:13.31 | Antiarc|Work | funkydude, I choose you! |
| 19:13.32 | Aenslaed | Roartindon: it works now thanks! It ended up being the router! |
| 19:13.42 | Roartindon | Aenslaed: ah :) |
| 19:13.57 | CIA-22 | 03antiarc * r38471 10Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0.toc: Threat-1.0: Un-LOD threat. We want it to collect and broadcast if standalone. |
| 19:13.58 | Roartindon | if clientOS == Mac then fail? :) |
| 19:13.58 | [Ammo] | I hate SWS code |
| 19:13.59 | [Ammo] | blargh |
| 19:14.13 | Cryect | [Ammo]: heh trying to make it compatible with SWS syncing? |
| 19:14.21 | [Ammo] | yeah |
| 19:14.26 | [Ammo] | almost got it though |
| 19:14.29 | [Ammo] | but it's meh |
| 19:14.34 | Cryect | [Ammo]: good luck their sync code is confusing as hell |
| 19:14.37 | [Ammo] | naahg |
| 19:14.41 | [Ammo] | I understand now :) |
| 19:14.44 | CIA-22 | 03arith * r38472 10Babble-2.2/Babble-Zone-2.2/Babble-Zone-2.2.lua: |
| 19:14.44 | CIA-22 | Babble-2.2: |
| 19:14.44 | CIA-22 | -update zhTW |
| 19:14.52 | [Ammo] | just digging through their code that sucks cock |
| 19:14.53 | Cryect | Well I only tried ot understand it well enough back in the day to make an exploit |
| 19:14.57 | *** join/#wowace Tinyboom (n=Flexom@49.80-202-156.nextgentel.com) |
| 19:15.00 | Cryect | that let me reset SWS data without being assist |
| 19:15.41 | Cryect | though this was shortly after SWS was released and after he actually fixed clients checking to make sure people were assisted (original version anyone could send the message since was only client side checkign) |
| 19:16.03 | [Ammo] | hehe |
| 19:16.27 | Aenslaed | Roartindon: well, one or the other, but the laptop had a new IP. Its not supposed to. |
| 19:17.32 | alext | can I run omen side by side with KLHThreatMeter? I want to test omen but I cant ditch KTM while most of the raid uses it |
| 19:17.39 | alext | was going to get a few others to run omen with me |
| 19:17.48 | Cryect | alext: yes you can |
| 19:17.54 | alext | ok cool |
| 19:18.20 | alext | will hopefully test it out tonight on nightbane then |
| 19:18.24 | Chompers | you need a transcript of the nightbane fight Antiarc? |
| 19:19.22 | Antiarc|Work | Chompers: I should be ok without it - I think I know what the problem is |
| 19:19.53 | Dustwhisper | What addon might create a forced logout when zoning ? |
| 19:21.05 | *** join/#wowace nadas (n=nadas@217.198.219.102) |
| 19:21.41 | Dustwhisper | one of our priests have hard issues with that when zoning SSC |
| 19:21.49 | Chompers | cool, i'm fighting him now so let me know if you need anything |
| 19:22.25 | Chompers | and our lock says theres problems with soulshatter not lowering threat :P |
| 19:22.57 | CIA-22 | 03cryect * r38473 10Recount/GUI_Main.lua: Recount - Fixes an error with potentially nil data |
| 19:23.18 | hypetech | anybody ever used a mod called tactics? |
| 19:23.25 | Chompers | but that might be the nightbane problem |
| 19:23.51 | *** join/#wowace Flexom (n=Flexom@49.80-202-156.nextgentel.com) |
| 19:24.08 | sbu | alext: well unless you are a tank you could just disable ktm since threat-1.0 also displays ktm threat |
| 19:24.42 | [Ammo] | sbu: but it does not send KTM threat yet |
| 19:24.52 | CIA-22 | 03arith * r38474 10Babble-2.2/Babble-Mount-2.2/Babble-Mount-2.2.lua: |
| 19:24.52 | CIA-22 | Babble-2.2: |
| 19:24.52 | CIA-22 | -Added zhTW translation |
| 19:25.03 | Roartindon | [Ammo]: well, no one else needs to know his threat unless he's a tank? |
| 19:25.04 | alext | yeah I need to send threat so people can QQ when i use soulshatter right on the edge |
| 19:25.09 | hypetech | any known issues with running omen and KTM side by side? |
| 19:25.11 | sbu | [Ammo]: yeah what Roartindon said |
| 19:26.23 | kebinusan | If you need combatlogs of fights, wws is a good place to look: http://www.lossendil.com/wws/?report=jov5y23ipjs2s&s=4241,4706&bl=0 |
| 19:26.32 | kebinusan | alext: then it gets resisted :-) |
| 19:27.21 | Chompers | was bigwigs changed recently, i dont see the skull being placed on the rain of bones target any more |
| 19:27.44 | hypetech | Chompers: there is no rain of bones target now |
| 19:27.46 | hypetech | it's aoe |
| 19:27.53 | Chompers | bah |
| 19:28.28 | kebinusan | was always funny when our rogues would vanish out of it and we only got one skele |
| 19:28.30 | Chompers | thanks for info :) |
| 19:28.42 | kenlyric | but where does it decide to go? |
| 19:28.42 | alext | kebinusan: happens sometimes but I have so much +hit that it doesnt happen really anymore |
| 19:30.09 | alext | kebinusan: WWS owns |
| 19:30.13 | alext | i run raid reports for all our riads |
| 19:30.15 | alext | love em |
| 19:30.27 | kebinusan | same |
| 19:30.30 | alext | my favorite one shows one of our hunters doing 215dps in karazhan, I almost puked |
| 19:30.38 | alext | we had 2 more hunters come in halfway through |
| 19:30.43 | alext | and outdps / outdmg that one hunter |
| 19:30.48 | alext | who had been there the whole time |
| 19:30.54 | kebinusan | I like being able to go back and examine why tanks die |
| 19:31.00 | alext | yah |
| 19:31.00 | hypetech | lol kebinusan: no mages? :p |
| 19:31.07 | alext | heh |
| 19:31.09 | alext | I remember |
| 19:31.12 | kebinusan | hypetech: its not my raid, I just found one at random |
| 19:31.20 | alext | when pre 2.1 you could fight prince from inside the hallway |
| 19:31.24 | alext | well we had him at like what...15% |
| 19:31.27 | alext | and our mage pulls agro |
| 19:31.31 | alext | so he runs into the hallway and resets |
| 19:31.33 | alext | then bugs out |
| 19:31.37 | alext | actually yah he didnt reset |
| 19:31.41 | hypetech | well that's why the door is there |
| 19:31.43 | hypetech | lrn2notcheat |
| 19:31.43 | alext | he just bugged out so we had to wait for tuesday reset |
| 19:31.48 | alext | haha |
| 19:31.54 | alext | we downed him the first time the right way |
| 19:32.00 | kebinusan | you only need to wait out 30 minutes |
| 19:32.01 | kebinusan | but yeah |
| 19:32.02 | alext | and THEY wanted to do it the hallway way |
| 19:32.07 | alext | ;[ |
| 19:32.11 | hypetech | lol |
| 19:32.11 | kebinusan | The only thing I hate about prince is that it is so completely random |
| 19:32.14 | alext | yah |
| 19:32.19 | alext | your at the mercy of the infernals |
| 19:32.21 | Chompers | its deffo after the first flight phase Antiarc |
| 19:32.22 | kebinusan | it all depends on your infernal palcement how difficult the fight is |
| 19:32.23 | kenlyric | not really. |
| 19:32.28 | hypetech | you just move....how hard is moving? |
| 19:32.29 | hypetech | lol |
| 19:32.33 | alext | well |
| 19:32.35 | kenlyric | if you move smartly, even a nasty inferno bunch can be avoided. |
| 19:32.37 | alext | you want to stay near the door incase of wipe |
| 19:32.38 | alext | for recovery |
| 19:32.39 | durcyn | you can see them coming from ten miles away |
| 19:32.42 | Chompers | moment you target nightbane, its 70k threat |
| 19:32.47 | durcyn | move your camera. |
| 19:32.53 | kenlyric | we had one attempt, probably our nastiest. I lived, the tank lived, but everyone else fucked it up. |
| 19:32.59 | alext | its nice they reduced his agro range so much |
| 19:33.02 | alext | makes wipe recovery easier |
| 19:33.06 | Cryect | recovery? not like any trash is going to respawn before he's dead |
| 19:33.15 | alext | but we try to tank him near the door anyways, so if the tank goes down everyone wipes near the door for soulstone rez |
| 19:33.21 | hypetech | WWS is so badass |
| 19:33.24 | alext | yah but its a few minutes to run back up |
| 19:33.27 | Roartindon | Cryect: Well, I've heard of groups that go straight for prince, without killing aran too |
| 19:33.29 | alext | even with shade down |
| 19:33.29 | hypetech | wish it wasn't a server side java client though -.- |
| 19:33.34 | Roartindon | So wipe recovery does become more of an issue :) |
| 19:33.36 | alext | and if shade ISNT down, then its alot longer of a run |
| 19:33.37 | kenlyric | does WWS work with the combat log restrictions? |
| 19:33.56 | alext | combat log restrictions |
| 19:33.57 | alext | ? |
| 19:34.02 | kbh | wow just got quartz for my mage |
| 19:34.04 | alext | what do you mean |
| 19:34.11 | Roartindon | Quartz is awesome :) |
| 19:34.12 | kenlyric | you couldn't change the combat log range. |
| 19:34.18 | Cryect | yeah you can |
| 19:34.18 | kenlyric | you could, but it had no effect. |
| 19:34.22 | durcyn | ewww, JNLP. |
| 19:34.24 | Cryect | works fine |
| 19:34.28 | kenlyric | so they fixed it in 2.1? |
| 19:34.34 | Cryect | yes test it again |
| 19:34.35 | alext | it should be ken |
| 19:34.39 | alext | mine is set to 150yds |
| 19:34.42 | Cryect | either that or defaults are really huge :-p |
| 19:34.49 | alext | and i saw horde dueling in my combatlog on top of the karazhan back tower |
| 19:34.54 | alext | before i even started going up |
| 19:37.34 | kenlyric | does simple combat log interfere with WWS? |
| 19:37.41 | kebinusan | no |
| 19:38.05 | Kalman| | Don't think mods can affect /combatlog output in any way. |
| 19:38.33 | kebinusan | the only issue is that you cant change the combatlog name and the file is appended to not overwritten |
| 19:38.50 | kenlyric | I can deal with that. |
| 19:38.51 | kebinusan | so you need to nuke or rename the combat log after you parse |
| 19:38.52 | CIA-22 | 03kergoth * r38475 10kEnergy/ (5 files in 2 dirs): kEnergy: drycode option to show the timer bar when in combat in addition to stealth and when the energy is actually ticking. |
| 19:39.19 | kebinusan | theres a mod on the svn called loggerhead that can help automagically enabling the combat log in certain zones |
| 19:39.20 | alext | kenlyric: it doesnt |
| 19:39.23 | alext | i use simplecombatlog |
| 19:39.25 | *** join/#wowace Adys (n=Miranda@APoitiers-256-1-128-230.w90-30.abo.wanadoo.fr) |
| 19:39.27 | alext | and been doing raid reports for months |
| 19:39.29 | alext | no issues |
| 19:39.58 | Kalman| | kebinusan: Well, beyond enable/disable, I mean. |
| 19:40.06 | alext | kebinusan: my problem is sometimes forgetting to erase my combatlog then having to edit it by hand for the correct data |
| 19:40.19 | alext | too bad an addon probably wont be able to do that |
| 19:40.24 | alext | since its an action outside of the game |
| 19:40.26 | Hjalte | Alext, i do the same :( |
| 19:40.28 | kebinusan | I just run wow with a batch file to nuke the combatlog when I start wow |
| 19:40.33 | alext | oh sweet |
| 19:40.35 | alext | thats a great idea |
| 19:40.38 | snurre | hm, ClearFonts2 doesnt support SharedMedia? |
| 19:41.47 | kenlyric | oooh logfu2 |
| 19:42.21 | Gnarfoz | snurre: should |
| 19:42.25 | Chompers | nightbane down |
| 19:42.31 | Chompers | so much easier than last week |
| 19:42.45 | snurre | cant see the Emblem font in clearfont2 tho |
| 19:42.49 | CIA-22 | 03kergoth * r38476 10kEnergy/frame.lua: kEnergy: sanity check position restoration from svn, since the input cannot be relied upon. |
| 19:43.32 | CIA-22 | 03kartu * r38477 10AT_RussianRaidWarning/ (AT_RussianRaidWarning.lua AT_RussianRaidWarning.toc): |
| 19:43.32 | CIA-22 | AT_RussianRaidWarning |
| 19:43.32 | CIA-22 | Initial upload |
| 19:43.41 | snurre | oh, and !surfacecontrol should work for fonts too |
| 19:44.14 | sbu | Threat-1.0-38440 (Threat-1.0):1153: Unknown unit token: npctarget |
| 19:44.56 | knarf- | what is WWS ? |
| 19:45.02 | kebinusan | wow web stats |
| 19:45.03 | kergoth | snurre: heh, would hardly need clearfonts2 with surfacecontrol being able to control it, no? |
| 19:45.10 | kebinusan | ~wws |
| 19:45.23 | kergoth | i wish people would put descriptions when uploading new addons |
| 19:45.34 | Roartindon | It clearly tells people to drink more vodka |
| 19:45.52 | kebinusan | http://www.lossendil.com/wws/ |
| 19:45.58 | kergoth | hehe |
| 19:46.12 | kergoth | wow drinking game. you died, vodka shot! |
| 19:46.19 | Chompers | aran with one warlock = possible? |
| 19:46.20 | kebinusan | WoW drinking game mod, every time a tank dies finish your drink, every time a hunter steals aggro take a shot |
| 19:46.25 | snurre | kergoth: if clearfont2 would get the fonts from SharedMedia, sure :p |
| 19:46.27 | kergoth | hehe |
| 19:47.02 | *** join/#wowace Flexom (n=Flexom@49.80-202-156.nextgentel.com) |
| 19:47.13 | steev_ | that drinking game would suck on our server |
| 19:47.17 | steev_ | tons of huntards |
| 19:47.21 | Kalman| | "## Notes: Enables russian raid warnings, by changing RaidWarningFrame font to arial" |
| 19:47.33 | hypetech | Chompers: you can do aran with one lock |
| 19:47.41 | kergoth | looks like clearfont2 registers its fonts and fonts that are registered with it, with sharedmedialib, but doesnt actually use it for its pool of available fonts |
| 19:47.46 | kergoth | :\ |
| 19:47.48 | Chompers | aran time then |
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| 19:48.01 | Kalman| | Chompers: You can do Aran with no locks, it's just harder. |
| 19:48.05 | Roartindon | Chompers: We've done aran no locks last two weeks |
| 19:48.07 | hypetech | ya |
| 19:48.13 | Roartindon | The nerf on 2.1 has made the elementals trivial |
| 19:48.23 | Roartindon | I soloed one as a mage, two prot warriors soloed one each |
| 19:48.37 | hypetech | ya I soloed one as a mage as well |
| 19:48.52 | Roartindon | I couldn't possibly solo one as a mage pre-2.1 :) |
| 19:49.00 | hypetech | they're no big deal after 2.1 |
| 19:49.11 | alext | yes |
| 19:49.12 | *** join/#wowace MentalPower|Work (i=MPower@WoWUIDev/Norganna/Administrator/MentalPower) |
| 19:49.15 | alext | the elementals are not a concern |
| 19:49.16 | Roartindon | And we did netherspite no locks or shadow priests too |
| 19:49.20 | alext | 10k health = not a concern |
| 19:49.44 | shieldb | heh, 10k, now? |
| 19:49.48 | alext | roughly |
| 19:49.49 | alext | 10-12k |
| 19:49.52 | shieldb | pull them together and AOE imo ;) |
| 19:49.52 | Roartindon | I was showing 12k.. but not much |
| 19:50.05 | shieldb | screw banish, go for seed of corruption :P |
| 19:50.05 | CIA-22 | 03kartu * r38479 10AT_Rotation/: |
| 19:50.05 | CIA-22 | AT_Rotation |
| 19:50.05 | CIA-22 | Initial import |
| 19:50.11 | CIA-22 | 03nirek * r38478 10AutoTurnin/AutoTurninGlobals.lua: AutoTurnin: Add ogrila darkrune quest |
| 19:50.20 | alext | one lock would take awhile to SOC them all and its hard to round them up |
| 19:50.24 | alext | since they just sit there and cast at you |
| 19:50.34 | alext | I just burned down 2 by myself and banished/chain feared the other 2 |
| 19:50.36 | alext | until they vanished |
| 19:51.07 | kergoth | hm, has the automaton turnin module been updated for 2.1? |
| 19:51.26 | weab | not by me |
| 19:51.31 | shieldb | when we did aran right after 2.1 we just did it 'normally' but we ended up killing aran ~40 seconds or so after he summoned the elementals so we never got to check how much hp they had |
| 19:51.54 | beerke | anyone can explain why people that run violation, don't show up on my violation ? i got a druid and warlock not showing up, but the warrior does |
| 19:52.10 | shieldb | I suppose someone could have nuked them down easily enough but we were too busy with aran |
| 19:52.14 | kebinusan | shieldb: they have about 12k |
| 19:52.24 | kebinusan | IIRC |
| 19:52.37 | shieldb | yeah that's what alext was saying a few minutes ago |
| 19:52.38 | Fisker- | AT_Rotation? |
| 19:52.41 | Fisker- | I lol'd? |
| 19:54.57 | Ominous | Antiarc|Work,: omen dosent work if you disable it then reenable |
| 19:55.15 | Antiarc|Work | Ominous: Overhauling the whole thing right now |
| 19:55.17 | Roartindon | Quote from my giuld forums: |
| 19:55.19 | Roartindon | "After being one of those people that had wow lockup when trying to log and being in a raid. I took the time to test what is causing my problems. As far as I can tell it is ag_UnitFrames. This might not be the case for everybody, but it's definately what is causing my problems. Yes it was updated as of Friday, so I wasn't using an out of date mod. For all of you who were having problems test this out and see if it's agUF for you to |
| 19:55.36 | CIA-22 | 03kartu * r38480 10AT_Rotation/Sounds/ (. Alarm.mp3 Alert.mp3): |
| 19:55.36 | CIA-22 | AT_Rotation |
| 19:55.36 | CIA-22 | Initial import |
| 19:55.58 | nadas | hmm, sorry if i missed it but since threat isn't LoD, will it actually transmit threat data as long as you have the library? |
| 19:56.02 | kebinusan | Antiarc| in omen when you look at precision in TPS its all listed as %2.0f %2.1f %2.2f |
| 19:56.07 | Kalman| | nadas: Yes. |
| 19:56.11 | Roartindon | nadas: That's the intention, yes |
| 19:56.11 | vhaarr | Roartindon: Yeah, that's a Blizzard bug. |
| 19:56.24 | vhaarr | Roartindon: It can happen with all custom unit frames. |
| 19:56.27 | vhaarr | not only agUF |
| 19:56.33 | Roartindon | vhaarr: Hmm.. any workarounds? |
| 19:56.39 | vhaarr | Roartindon: Not that I know of >< |
| 19:56.42 | ZealotOnAStick | can also occur with blizzard's raid frames. |
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| 19:56.44 | kebinusan | have your raid lead boot you from the raid |
| 19:56.48 | vhaarr | right |
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| 19:56.52 | ZealotOnAStick | seems to be an issue with -raid- frames specifically. |
| 19:56.55 | vhaarr | that's the only "workaround" |
| 19:57.06 | nadas | aha, interesting. what happens then if a person has both threat and ktm, will his ktm data be discarded in a threat/omen setup for other users? |
| 19:57.08 | vhaarr | Roartindon: ZealotOnAStick is right, it's a raid issue only. |
| 19:57.13 | vhaarr | Roartindon: So boot from the raid, log in, invite. |
| 19:57.32 | Kalman| | nadas: That's the idea! |
| 19:57.38 | nadas | the plot thickens |
| 19:57.52 | vhaarr | I even added it to the topic here, but someone has removed it. |
| 19:57.57 | vhaarr | The unit frame issue. |
| 19:58.24 | nadas | so in essence, if i know our MT is updating his pitbull daily which sneaks in threat, then i can happily can ktm and enjoy omen? (apart from any bugs etc) :p |
| 19:59.20 | durcyn | or just don't go offline and waste 24 other peoples' time. |
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| 19:59.48 | kebinusan | Cryect: 7/06/04 15:32:16-1636-x1]: Recount\Recount.lua:34: attempt to index field 'GraphWindow' (a nil value) |
| 20:00.01 | shieldb | nadas, I dropped ktm about three days ago for omen, and even though our MT/OTs are still running KTM I get accurate enough information for my purposes |
| 20:00.19 | hypetech | wait, you have omen reading KTM data now? |
| 20:00.22 | shieldb | or I should say I was running both and finally dropped KTM |
| 20:00.24 | Antiarc|Work | Yes, hypetech |
| 20:00.28 | NightHawkTheSane | haha... http://www.overheardinnewyork.com/archives/010430.html |
| 20:00.29 | hypetech | very nice |
| 20:00.33 | nadas | shieldb: i'm more interested in testing clean threat setups |
| 20:00.40 | shieldb | reading ktm data has been working for a week I think? |
| 20:00.52 | nadas | but i can't convince people to get rid of ktm until i know threat is good to go :p |
| 20:00.53 | Antiarc|Work | Question: Would you all want to be able to create multiple Omen windows to watch threat for multiple targets? |
| 20:00.56 | Antiarc|Work | Or is that overkill? |
| 20:01.14 | shieldb | you'll just see an asterisk on someone's name in omen to indicate that you're not getting data from threat-1.0 |
| 20:01.23 | shieldb | Antiarc|Work, I'd like to see that |
| 20:01.23 | nadas | aha |
| 20:01.33 | shieldb | on some fights that is pretty useful |
| 20:01.47 | NightHawkTheSane | Antiarc|Work: I think it'd be neat, but just make sure it's entirely optional and easy to enable/disable :P |
| 20:02.06 | Chompers | our tank says he would like that |
| 20:02.16 | Chompers | when hes building threat on multiple mobs |
| 20:02.25 | Antiarc|Work | NightHawkTheSane: I'm thinking of converting Omen to basically be an AceOO object and then have a manager that lets you instantiate multiple copies of it |
| 20:02.26 | shieldb | i.e. healers wanting to always be looking at tidewalker lurkers during morogrim, or fights with multiple mobs to be tanked (seeing your threat on both feugen and stalagg for thaddius, etc) |
| 20:02.31 | Antiarc|Work | Then set the target per-object to whatever |
| 20:02.33 | Roartindon | Chompers: Aloft is going to gain Threat-1.0 support sometime this week |
| 20:02.39 | kergoth | Roartindon: that reminds me, is there a tag to get the threat for a specific unit (other than target), and for a specific player? and is there a tag to get at the player that currently 1) has aggro or 2) is the top of the threat bars atm? |
| 20:02.40 | nadas | Antiarc|Work: add the option to color my own bar some other color than my class color please ;) |
| 20:02.44 | Roartindon | Which may be a better place to show it per-mob for tanks re: multi-mob threat |
| 20:02.51 | Antiarc|Work | nadas: Heh, that's a popular one :D |
| 20:03.08 | nadas | Antiarc|Work: i bet :p |
| 20:03.12 | kergoth | Roartindon: neat, how are you going to display the threat data for aloft? visually i mean |
| 20:03.48 | nadas | Antiarc|Work: mm and maybe make the fubar plugin clickable to trigger the toggle function? :) |
| 20:03.50 | kergoth | man, killing all the embeds from all the .toc files in my addon set to clean up the FrameXML.log sure results in an assload of svn conflicts when i update things |
| 20:03.51 | Roartindon | kergoth: re: tags, not yet, easy addition though |
| 20:04.12 | omega | how accurate is Threat-1.0 on lower levels? |
| 20:04.20 | Roartindon | kergoth: re aloft display, tag enhancements, and probably a single bar with multiple segments |
| 20:04.35 | kergoth | Roartindon: okay, cool. dont trouble yourself, i dont need those tags or anything, was just thinking about it the other day |
| 20:04.39 | kergoth | ah, sounds cool |
| 20:05.17 | Antiarc|Work | omega: It has some holes, but it does linear guesses for 'em, so it's close-ish |
| 20:05.25 | Antiarc|Work | Lower ranks of warrior skills need testing though |
| 20:05.33 | Antiarc|Work | Sunder, heroic strike, etc |
| 20:05.36 | kergoth | i wouldnt mind just seeing a number, the % that indicates my threat vs the mob's current target |
| 20:05.57 | CIA-22 | 03nirek * r38481 10AutoTurnin/AutoTurninGlobals.lua: AutoTurnin: go fatfingers, . is not , |
| 20:06.11 | Roartindon | kergoth: Yeah, that's easy :) |
| 20:06.31 | Roartindon | Actually, not quite, it was going to be a % compared to the max threat on that mob |
| 20:06.41 | Roartindon | because I h ave no way of determining target of a generic nameplate |
| 20:07.10 | kergoth | thatd work too, but then it'd just show 100%, not an indication of how close i am to the threshold of pulling aggro |
| 20:07.14 | Roartindon | or if you're max threat, % above person below you |
| 20:07.23 | kergoth | ah :) |
| 20:08.32 | Roartindon | Putting it into aloft is also my way to see it spread quicker to my guild members :) |
| 20:08.35 | omega | Antiarc|Work: aha, ok, thanks :) |
| 20:08.49 | Roartindon | Since people update Aloft is more likely than getting them to download an entire new set of addons :) |
| 20:08.55 | Roartindon | Spread Threat-1.0 that is |
| 20:08.55 | kergoth | hehe |
| 20:09.08 | durcyn | viral addon dispersal, eh? |
| 20:09.21 | Roartindon | durcyn: Something like that :) a quarter of them have it already and don't know it via Pitbull |
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| 20:11.21 | NightHawkTheSane | hehe, daily kos wins.. "So of course government is not functioning. It's being run by conservatives." And before anyone tries to argue, i'm off to the bank! :D |
| 20:11.21 | NightHawkTheSane | ~flee |
| 20:11.23 | purl | ACTION runs away screaming |
| 20:12.47 | nadas | does ktm threat "stick" when i switch targets? |
| 20:13.03 | kergoth | ktm's threat data is all global, not per target, no? |
| 20:13.10 | nadas | i'm aware of that |
| 20:13.29 | Roartindon | nadas: Any KTM threat is just shown how KTM would I believe |
| 20:13.33 | nadas | i mean, if all my tanks use threat but 10 people still have ktm for some reason.. |
| 20:13.50 | kergoth | ahh right, didnt understand theq uestion |
| 20:13.58 | nadas | they would always show as being above tanks after switching targets a few times |
| 20:14.15 | Roartindon | nadas: If they don't update, they'll continue to show above |
| 20:14.21 | Roartindon | but if your tanks have it, then you should have reliable aggro data |
| 20:14.32 | Roartindon | as the aggro gain is based on who currently has it, and multiplying against that |
| 20:14.44 | nadas | yeah but my tank might be 10 down the list if some tards still have ktm :) |
| 20:14.57 | Roartindon | nadas: Hmm.. make the window bigger? :P |
| 20:15.17 | nadas | i guess my point is that there should be an option to ignore ktm data ;) |
| 20:15.22 | kenlyric | hmmm.. I got thrown into combat and my fps went to 0 |
| 20:15.33 | durcyn | kenlyric: what's your cpu usage at? |
| 20:15.48 | kergoth | would be kinda cool to blacklist individuals, or just show yourself and the ora2 mt's or something |
| 20:15.57 | Dustwhisper | can you still increase your combatlog range? |
| 20:15.59 | Roartindon | kergoth: Hmm.. assessment can already do it :) |
| 20:16.11 | durcyn | Dustwhisper: yeah. check out oTweaks or Violation_CombatLogRange |
| 20:16.11 | Roartindon | kergoth: filterTag = ~isUsingForeignThreatSource |
| 20:16.17 | kenlyric | durcyn, now it's fine, around 50% |
| 20:16.21 | kergoth | ah nice |
| 20:16.41 | kenlyric | but it was chugging at the hard drive pretty hard when it happened, suggesting lots of swapping. |
| 20:16.46 | durcyn | kenlyric: i was having fps problems after 2.1, cpu was pegged while the graphics card was sitting on its hands :( |
| 20:16.48 | kergoth | Dustwhisper: i heard you couldnt in 2.0, and i heard you could in 2.1, but i dont know that its been verified |
| 20:17.02 | nadas | thing is, as soon as tanks are all using threat i would never want ktm data to "taint" my threat meters |
| 20:17.06 | kenlyric | durcyn: oh, i had that too, b ut that's because I forgot to plug in my graphics card to power. |
| 20:17.14 | snurre | hm, i need a clever way to show health values in pitbull... |
| 20:17.15 | nadas | but that's just me :) |
| 20:17.20 | kenlyric | it couldn't be related to combatlog ranges, could it? |
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| 20:20.15 | alext | Natur EnemyCastbar also has combatlog range adjustments, just to add to the list of mods that do it |
| 20:20.22 | alext | as well as BigWigs |
| 20:20.53 | alext | kergoth: its verified |
| 20:21.06 | alext | combatlog changes definitely work |
| 20:21.20 | kergoth | sweet |
| 20:21.23 | kergoth | thanks, was wondering |
| 20:21.32 | Roartindon | I'll add a range changing set of options to Assessment now that it works then |
| 20:22.07 | alext | yah i was chillin in the river behind the karazhan back tower |
| 20:22.07 | Roartindon | I didn't realise it was verified either :) |
| 20:22.08 | alext | and i could "see" horde dueling on my combatlog |
| 20:22.08 | alext | and when i sent my eye around to look, they were right on the ledge next to the back door gate |
| 20:22.08 | alext | so thats like 90yds + |
| 20:22.08 | alext | my combatlog was set to 150yds |
| 20:22.32 | Fisker- | I thought people said they didn't work? |
| 20:22.36 | Fisker- | They fixed it again in 2.1? |
| 20:22.38 | alext | yah another test was a guildy of mine was cooking in duskwood |
| 20:22.40 | Cryect | yes its fixed |
| 20:22.43 | alext | and i was flying to duskwood to raid |
| 20:22.45 | Fisker- | lame |
| 20:22.51 | Fisker- | needs moar official word on it |
| 20:22.53 | Cryect | Whats lame about it being fixed? |
| 20:22.57 | alext | and i saw him making food in my combatlog like 15 seconds before i landed |
| 20:23.02 | Cryect | heh there was never official word on it being broken either :-p |
| 20:23.09 | Fisker- | i know |
| 20:23.21 | Fisker- | It's just annoying they're keeping this as a hidden feature |
| 20:23.29 | alext | well |
| 20:23.36 | Fisker- | either it should be there and be officially supported, or it shouldn't be there |
| 20:23.37 | alext | it can cause issues tho so i understand why they did it |
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| 20:24.07 | alext | if your computer isnt up to snuff, having addons that process the combatlog when the range is increased five-fold is hard on the computer |
| 20:24.38 | Fisker- | i'm up for snuff |
| 20:24.39 | alext | i remember I had mine set on 150yds in pre-2.0 patch and my computer was dying to keep up |
| 20:24.46 | alext | had to scale back to 30yds |
| 20:24.54 | alext | but i upgraded now so it doesnt matter |
| 20:25.00 | alext | i hope that wasnt a sonic spear QQ ;[ |
| 20:25.05 | Fisker- | i'm having sex with your impaled body right now |
| 20:25.15 | alext | <QQ><\ |
| 20:25.22 | evl | Fisker-: that's what SHE said, HARR HAR |
| 20:25.28 | Fisker- | harr harr? |
| 20:25.55 | kergoth | i cant wait to have money to get a decent video card again... my last nice nvidia went bad on me, and i needed the money when they refunded it, so i'm using a $40 crappy nvidia pcie card from compgeeks.com |
| 20:25.55 | kergoth | heh |
| 20:26.32 | Fisker- | I remember my first SLI-experience |
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| 20:26.47 | Fisker- | both cards were too big to fit, i returned them and bought a 7800GTX instead |
| 20:26.50 | snurre | would it be possible to get a way to set global font in Quartz and Assessment? (or make them affected by ClearFont2 or something) |
| 20:26.50 | Fisker- | :D |
| 20:26.56 | kergoth | this piece of shit gets like 15fps in the middle of nowhere staring at the dirt |
| 20:27.19 | sbu | Antiarc|Sleep: hm - warlock's aggro reduce isnt in yet? |
| 20:27.44 | nekoh_ | i think soulshatter is bugged atm |
| 20:27.56 | sbu | hmyup, doesnt do anything :o |
| 20:28.06 | nekoh | that what i mean :P |
| 20:30.04 | kebinusan | antiarc, when soloing my pet doesnt always show up in omen, when attacking a target |
| 20:31.29 | alext | soulshatter is bugged in the addon or in the game? |
| 20:31.35 | Dustwhisper | hmm |
| 20:31.37 | alext | because soulshatter seems to be working fine in-game |
| 20:31.38 | alext | for me |
| 20:31.40 | Dustwhisper | does WWS not show what warlocks put up what curses? |
| 20:31.41 | kebinusan | soulshatter doesnt show up in the combatlog |
| 20:31.49 | alext | Dustwhisper: not curses that dont do damage, no |
| 20:31.55 | kebinusan | unless its resisted |
| 20:32.00 | Dustwhisper | sad |
| 20:32.08 | alext | kebinusan: I just know whenever I soulshatter, KTM drops me where i belong on the agro list unless it gets resisted |
| 20:32.21 | Kalman| | kebinusan: Are you sure? |
| 20:32.30 | kebinusan | yes |
| 20:32.31 | Antiarc|Work | soulshatter isn't working in the addon right now |
| 20:32.38 | Antiarc|Work | pet stuff is buggy, needs more work. |
| 20:32.44 | kebinusan | kk |
| 20:32.48 | Antiarc|Work | those are the last two big bugs in threat |
| 20:32.52 | alext | hmmm wonder how KTM catches it if its not in the combatlog |
| 20:32.57 | Antiarc|Work | The rest of it is the cpu module |
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| 20:33.03 | Antiarc|Work | UNIT_SPELLCAST_SENT, likely |
| 20:33.05 | Antiarc|Work | I can catch it. |
| 20:33.10 | alext | ah ok |
| 20:33.14 | Antiarc|Work | err, s/cpu/npc/ |
| 20:33.16 | kergoth | <3 http://ui.worldofwar.net/ui.php?id=4511 (cleaned up and made to use forkliftgnome as a loadmanager, anyway) |
| 20:33.23 | alext | yeah i dont see it in the combatlog either but KTM def notices my soulshatter |
| 20:33.31 | Cryect | Anyone have any idea how my doubly linked list is getting screwed up in this code http://ace.pastey.net/50916 I add windows via AddWindow (TopWindow is init with UIParent btw) and then call :SetWindowTop when a window is clicked or shown |
| 20:33.42 | Silviu- | Antiarc, "You Cast ShoulShatter |
| 20:33.50 | Silviu- | "Soulshatter* |
| 20:33.56 | Silviu- | In my combatlog |
| 20:34.15 | Silviu- | "You cast Soulshatter" like so ;) |
| 20:34.37 | Cryect | KTM had a bug with soulshatter not working till 19.19 so you prolly just ran into the same bug :-p |
| 20:34.50 | alext | yah I upgraded to 19.19 |
| 20:34.54 | alext | it wasnt working reliably before then |
| 20:35.02 | alext | but its been reliable all this week in raiding |
| 20:35.07 | alext | have soulshattered like 30 times |
| 20:35.46 | alext | ah well bbl |
| 20:36.56 | Chompers | 2 epics in one run, horay! |
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| 20:37.29 | Dhirmadi | hey all |
| 20:38.07 | snurre | can you anchor pitbull frames on eachother? |
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| 20:39.12 | Gngsk | snurre, if you figure out how let me know! |
| 20:39.18 | kebinusan | hmm guess I was wrong |
| 20:39.24 | kebinusan | soulshatter does show up on the combat log now |
| 20:40.04 | Kalman| | Yeah, someone had posted in the Omen thread on EJ that it did, was why I asked. |
| 20:40.06 | Dhirmadi | folks, i am really stuck on sorting an array, would someone have the time to tell me what i am doing wrong? |
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| 20:41.03 | bigzero | post the code on ace.pastey.net |
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| 20:42.43 | Gamefaq | hi |
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| 20:48.28 | durcyn | so let me get this straight.. we've gone from "damagemeters and ktm are too hard to rewrite" to having a working threat lib and three damage meter replacements? |
| 20:48.41 | Josh_Borke | it was never a too hard thing |
| 20:48.47 | vodrin- | too cba |
| 20:48.51 | Josh_Borke | it was a too resource intensive to make it worth it |
| 20:49.02 | durcyn | i'm not complaining =P |
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| 20:49.10 | kenlyric | [2007/06/04 16:48:07-206-x3]: Threat-1.0\Threat-1.0\ThreatClassModuleCore.lua:421: Usage: UnitAffectingCombat("unit") |
| 20:49.13 | Josh_Borke | then 2.1 let us profile the addons and see that we could make something comparable that used less resources |
| 20:49.16 | Cryect | Who said damage meter replacements were too hard to write? |
| 20:49.16 | Fisker- | Well the guys here do a very good job |
| 20:49.28 | Fisker- | not really fair they have to create like 90% of all respectable addons by themselves |
| 20:49.36 | Fisker- | Also a bigger community = better |
| 20:49.43 | Cryect | All the possible DM replacements are seeking different goals as well :-p |
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| 20:49.55 | Cryect | Which is kinda cool |
| 20:50.03 | kergoth | i'm torn between them as a result though |
| 20:50.08 | Cryect | so soon enough |
| 20:50.15 | Kalman| | Can always run more than one, kergoth. |
| 20:50.17 | Cryect | someone will take what works the best from all of them to make a new one |
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| 20:50.20 | Cryect | :-p |
| 20:50.20 | kergoth | violation's syncing is nice, recount's details and graphs are nice, and assessment's flexibility and multiple windows is nice |
| 20:50.32 | kenlyric | I get that error healing someone who is not in combat and who is not in my party |
| 20:50.45 | vodrin- | viocountment |
| 20:51.09 | Cryect | sounds almost like vicodin |
| 20:51.21 | Fisker- | gonna get some sleep |
| 20:51.25 | Fisker- | bbl |
| 20:51.28 | Cryect | night Fisker- |
| 20:51.28 | Dhirmadi | big, you got my pastey? |
| 20:52.11 | Antiarc|Work | kenlyric: Aha, good catch. Thanks. |
| 20:52.31 | CIA-22 | 03roartindon * r38483 10Assessment/ (5 files in 2 dirs): |
| 20:52.31 | CIA-22 | Assessment |
| 20:52.31 | CIA-22 | - Added range options |
| 20:52.40 | [Liquidor] | Lua: % = mod ? |
| 20:52.45 | kergoth | yep |
| 20:52.47 | [Liquidor] | k |
| 20:53.07 | [Liquidor] | What way was it again? 2 mod 1 = 0 ? |
| 20:53.13 | [Liquidor] | or 1 mod 2 = 0 ? |
| 20:53.21 | CIA-22 | 03antiarc * r38484 10Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0/ThreatClassModuleCore.lua: Threat-1.0: Fix for healing people out of combat. I suspect this is going to make Binding Heal not register threat, too, so that needs to be specifically looked at. |
| 20:53.33 | Tornhoof | mod is a*x +b, being the remainder b |
| 20:53.39 | Antiarc|Work | And by "out of combat" I mean "out of your party" |
| 20:53.56 | kergoth | [Liquidor]: the former. |
| 20:54.00 | kenlyric | yay, I did something! |
| 20:54.04 | kergoth | yay something |
| 20:54.29 | Josh_Borke | Tornhoof: a mod b == a - math.floor(a / c) * c |
| 20:54.54 | Cryect | Josh_Borke complains about math then he knows that off the top his head! |
| 20:55.26 | [Liquidor] | If you were to create a blinking text with a 1 sec delay would you repeat an event calling a function? |
| 20:55.32 | [Liquidor] | ...which then toggles the text |
| 20:55.34 | Cryect | though what the hell is c in that |
| 20:55.36 | Kalman| | Just blink tag it. |
| 20:55.46 | [Liquidor] | Just what? |
| 20:55.51 | Kalman| | Bad joke, nvm. |
| 20:55.53 | Cryect | Theres a blink tag in WoW? |
| 20:55.55 | Josh_Borke | Cryect: that's a good point, lol |
| 20:55.56 | Tornhoof | josh, no difference there ;) |
| 20:56.13 | Kalman| | Cryect: I really hope not,. |
| 20:56.15 | NeoTron | hmm |
| 20:56.26 | Cryect | Kalman|: imagine if there was an that we could send it in chat! |
| 20:56.32 | NeoTron | Threat-1.0 able to separate threat based on raid icon as well as name? |
| 20:56.33 | Cryect | Kalman|: Trade Channel would be great! |
| 20:56.39 | [Liquidor] | heh |
| 20:56.41 | NeoTron | of course that's unreliable if someone changes the icons |
| 20:56.56 | [Liquidor] | Specially with Crafting messages Cryect |
| 20:57.06 | Kalman| | <blink>GEMS GEMS GEMS</blink> |
| 20:57.10 | [Liquidor] | CRAFTING THIS AND THIS .... so on to the fulliest |
| 20:57.19 | Roartindon | NeoTron: No, threat cannot |
| 20:57.21 | Tornhoof | not only raid icons |
| 20:57.25 | Tornhoof | age, gender |
| 20:57.30 | [Liquidor] | Anyway back to my question/request: How would you create a blinking text? |
| 20:57.31 | Tornhoof | class, |
| 20:57.31 | Roartindon | NeoTron: There's nothing in the combat log that says Mob name <Raid icon> is hit by blah |
| 20:57.35 | durcyn | hrm.. should babble-mount not be in filelist.wau or the main addon .toc? |
| 20:57.39 | [Liquidor] | I just need a value to blink when changed |
| 20:57.45 | NeoTron | Roartindon: hmm true |
| 20:57.50 | Cryect | [Liquidor] change the text color |
| 20:58.09 | [Liquidor] | Background is transparent tho |
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| 20:58.10 | Roartindon | There's nothing for Threat to work with other than the name of the thing that is getting hit.... that's all the combat log gives |
| 20:58.23 | Cryect | but yeah setup a scheduled event that changes the text color each call |
| 20:58.34 | Cryect | what does the background have to do with blinking text? |
| 20:59.04 | [Liquidor] | Well I'm not looking for a way to hide the text during the blink event, I'm searching to know how to repeat some function or anything else to repeat this event |
| 20:59.07 | [Liquidor] | or... uhm |
| 20:59.19 | durcyn | [Liquidor]: the line for blinking text forms on the roof. Queue up, and don't mind the last step on your way down. |
| 20:59.40 | [Liquidor] | Cryect, well what color would you choose for the text if there was no background to hide the text with? Just out of context since it's not my request here |
| 20:59.50 | pastamancer | you'd need ScheduleRepeatingEvent and hide/show the fontstring |
| 20:59.59 | [Liquidor] | Okay |
| 21:00.15 | Cryect | I don't like hide/show blink really should alternate between colors imo |
| 21:00.16 | [Liquidor] | AceEvent I assume? |
| 21:00.19 | Cryect | yes |
| 21:00.32 | [Liquidor] | Well by "colors" i assume you mean transparency as well? |
| 21:00.35 | [Liquidor] | or alpha* |
| 21:00.48 | durcyn | toggling alpha full on and full off should do it |
| 21:00.56 | CIA-22 | 03antiarc * r38485 10Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0/credits.txt: Threat-1.0: Updated credits |
| 21:01.01 | [Liquidor] | Or are you suggestnig a default color blinking with lets say red? |
| 21:01.36 | pastamancer | hmm, I guess fiddling with the alpha would be better than hide/show |
| 21:01.38 | [Liquidor] | Anyway what I was looking for was the ScheduleRepeatingEvent, the rest I'll figure out |
| 21:01.38 | Cryect | do whatever works for what you want |
| 21:01.44 | Cryect | yes you want to change alppha |
| 21:01.50 | kergoth | wiki api docs ftw |
| 21:01.51 | kergoth | rftm |
| 21:01.52 | Cryect | since hide or show could cause other issues |
| 21:02.20 | [Liquidor] | What about transition: crossfading? |
| 21:02.27 | Cryect | if you want to crossfade |
| 21:02.38 | Roartindon | [Liquidor]: crossade it just one window fading in with value alpha, the other with 1-alpha |
| 21:02.40 | Cryect | you still can use :ScheduleRepeatingEvent( |
| 21:02.42 | [Liquidor] | I would have to repeat an event for each alpha value? |
| 21:02.45 | [Liquidor] | ye thought so |
| 21:02.48 | Cryect | just set delay to 0 or some small value |
| 21:02.49 | Roartindon | [Liquidor]: yes |
| 21:02.54 | Josh_Borke | Cryect: has Protractor been updated to ClearFocus() OnEscapePressed? |
| 21:02.58 | Cryect | 0 would result in an update everyframe |
| 21:03.05 | Cryect | yes it does Josh_Borke |
| 21:03.10 | Roartindon | Alpha changes 20fps are visually pretty smooth... |
| 21:03.11 | Josh_Borke | ok, i should update then :-) |
| 21:03.13 | Roartindon | more than that you don't really notice |
| 21:03.17 | Josh_Borke | because that's really f'ng annoying :-) |
| 21:03.23 | Cryect | Yeah I had autofocus enabled by accident before |
| 21:03.29 | Josh_Borke | ew, even worse |
| 21:03.45 | Antiarc|Work | I like 27 FPS myself |
| 21:03.47 | Tuyk | so is Omen the only interface for Threat atm? |
| 21:03.50 | Antiarc|Work | Since that's your TV's framerate |
| 21:04.01 | Antiarc|Work | Tuyk: If you don't count Assessment, Violation, and Aloft, yes :P |
| 21:04.04 | Cryect | umm well all the new damage trackers use ThreatLib also |
| 21:04.07 | Cryect | Recount as well :-p |
| 21:04.10 | Roartindon | Antiarc|Work: And Pitbull |
| 21:04.13 | Antiarc|Work | Oh yeah |
| 21:04.16 | Antiarc|Work | So we're up to what, 6 total? |
| 21:04.19 | Antiarc|Work | \m/ |
| 21:04.32 | Tuyk | o.0 damn i go for a few days and now they are breeding liek rabbits |
| 21:04.33 | Roartindon | 6, 7 once I get off my ass with Aloft |
| 21:05.07 | [Liquidor] | Is Threat uhm... predictable? |
| 21:05.16 | Antiarc|Work | Define "predictable" |
| 21:05.24 | [Liquidor] | Uhm, yeah was looking for the right word |
| 21:05.25 | Cryect | so Aloft will show your percentage of threat underneath name plates then? |
| 21:05.51 | Antiarc|Work | Reliable? |
| 21:05.58 | [Liquidor] | Nah that's another question |
| 21:06.01 | Roartindon | Cryect: It will when I get off my ass to add in a few more tags :) |
| 21:06.13 | Antiarc|Work | If you're asking if you can predict threat gain, sorta. |
| 21:06.17 | xt | Roartindon: Need that feature!!! :D |
| 21:06.17 | Antiarc|Work | Not really, but sorta. |
| 21:06.21 | [Liquidor] | I can't seem to find a word to describe what I'm asking, but ehm is Threat recordable then? |
| 21:06.25 | Roartindon | Cryect: and a bar also |
| 21:06.34 | Cryect | heh k, make sure I can set it so I can see I can see the threat of the person who's not me thats highest in relation to my threat |
| 21:06.52 | durcyn | [Liquidor]: Recount and Assessment have some history functionality, iirc. |
| 21:07.10 | Roartindon | I currently snapshot threat in 'current fight' |
| 21:07.19 | Roartindon | When the player's global threat is reset |
| 21:07.28 | [Liquidor] | But how would someone know how much a frostbolt from 1 guy does in threat compared to the Mo. Blow by a warrior? |
| 21:07.35 | Cryect | Actually at the moment Recount doesn't since haven't had a chance to add it back in exactly |
| 21:07.39 | Cryect | [Liquidor]: Tests |
| 21:08.04 | Cryect | you have someone wand wiht a 1 dmg wand till they pull aggro after some person does a move exactly once |
| 21:08.14 | Cryect | or something to that extent |
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| 21:08.30 | grzesieq | wtf |
| 21:08.33 | Antiarc|Work | I have my mage melee things |
| 21:08.33 | [Liquidor] | So in order to create a threat meter you would have to test all spells and abilities ingame on all mobs and bosses? |
| 21:08.35 | *** part/#wowace QQngsk (n=gngsk@c-69-138-213-251.hsd1.md.comcast.net) |
| 21:08.35 | grzesieq | fubar using 21 MB |
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| 21:08.47 | Antiarc|Work | [Liquidor]: Nah, just on any one mob |
| 21:09.04 | durcyn | [Liquidor]: or crib it from others who have researched it. a lot of the data's on wowwiki. |
| 21:09.07 | Roartindon | grzesieq: You're probably running embedded mods, and fubar is getting attributed your entire library usage |
| 21:09.32 | [Liquidor] | Just out of curiousity... does the Lava Annhiliator in Molten Core intercept someone based on threat or distance or? |
| 21:09.37 | snurre | http://crit-happens.net/snurre/snurreui.jpg <3 |
| 21:09.41 | Roartindon | [Liquidor]: random secondary target |
| 21:09.44 | Kalman| | [Liquidor]: Distance. |
| 21:09.49 | Kalman| | Wait, Annihilator is random. |
| 21:09.52 | Kalman| | Surger is distance. |
| 21:09.56 | NightHawkTheSane | yeah |
| 21:10.34 | Roartindon | snurre: Interesting.. I've never put action buttons at hte top of my screen |
| 21:10.36 | [Liquidor] | And uhm, what about the fireball by Onyxia? |
| 21:10.40 | Roartindon | It'd probably make sense for a few of them :) |
| 21:10.57 | Roartindon | [Liquidor]: random.. random(9)-> if 1-8, move to that position, if 9 = breath |
| 21:11.04 | snurre | Roartindon: theyre mostly the utility actions |
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| 21:11.23 | snurre | but youre onto something |
| 21:11.26 | snurre | i should move them somewhere |
| 21:11.45 | Kalman| | Roartindon: That's deep breath. Her fireball in phase 2 has a non-random mechanic related to aggro and aggro wipes. |
| 21:12.01 | Roartindon | Kalman|: oh oops.. answering hte wrong question :) |
| 21:12.21 | Mudkipz | mmm |
| 21:12.22 | snurre | it wouldve been deep breath if it was correct, which it isnt ;) |
| 21:12.29 | Mudkipz | I'm loving that deep purple theme snurre |
| 21:12.43 | snurre | purplz is the colour of gods |
| 21:12.53 | Roartindon | Just because you're a warlock ! |
| 21:12.59 | snurre | i should change colours on casting bar and stuff too |
| 21:13.04 | snurre | yep, my hunter's ui is green :p |
| 21:13.07 | [Liquidor] | So uhm, according to rumours Less dots = More Breaths... Dots = damage = threat.... So does the breath have anything to do with threat? |
| 21:13.11 | snurre | but i refuse to make my warr's brown |
| 21:13.18 | snurre | no |
| 21:13.31 | Tuyk | I use a grey colour for my warrior snurre |
| 21:13.53 | Mudkipz | [Liquidor], I hear Ony deep breaths more this patch |
| 21:13.56 | snurre | breath = 70% chance to move to either of the adjacent positions, 30% of breath and move to the opposite position |
| 21:14.07 | [Liquidor] | Mudkipz, yeah yeah everyone does every patch. |
| 21:14.44 | [Liquidor] | Noone knows what causes the breath yet aight? |
| 21:14.45 | kergoth | http://gallery.kergoth.com/v/wow/assessment1.jpg.html is my setup, though now the unitframes are right above the actionbuttons, the titlebars on the assessment windows have dark blue backgrounds, and the assessment windows now have textured borders |
| 21:14.53 | snurre | [Liquidor]: nothing, its random |
| 21:15.08 | [Liquidor] | Okay, at least that's something |
| 21:15.14 | snurre | LiteStepLite is hot |
| 21:15.41 | Gagorian | [2007/06/05 00:15:11-1461-x1]: Threat-1.0\Threat-1.0\ThreatClassModuleCore.lua:421: Usage: UnitAffectingCombat("unit") |
| 21:15.50 | kergoth | hehe, http://www.qwantz.com/merchandise.html |
| 21:15.53 | Mudkipz | kergoth, smooth is my fav |
| 21:16.08 | clad|work | ckknight: kergoth: PING |
| 21:16.10 | kergoth | i tend to drift back and forth between smooth and banto.. though litestep & friends are growing on me |
| 21:16.13 | kergoth | clad|work: pong |
| 21:16.19 | snurre | i used smooth, then banto, then glaze, then litestep, then litesteplite |
| 21:16.45 | Mudkipz | LOL the astronaut |
| 21:16.49 | Mudkipz | that's so depressing |
| 21:17.05 | Mudkipz | "Not all draems can come true." |
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| 21:17.11 | kergoth | hehe |
| 21:17.15 | kergoth | reminds me of the demotivators |
| 21:17.43 | kergoth | http://despair.com/dreams.html <3 |
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| 21:18.07 | Mudkipz | lol |
| 21:18.55 | kergoth | i always wanted http://www.despair.com/apathy.html when i was in tech support |
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| 21:19.00 | snurre | hm, how do you change the default class colours? |
| 21:19.05 | Mudkipz | man I hate going to these websites |
| 21:19.18 | kergoth | Mudkipz: timesinks ftw? |
| 21:19.22 | Mudkipz | the best I could do are drool and oogle at em |
| 21:19.30 | Mudkipz | want.to.by |
| 21:19.31 | Elkano | snurre, overwrite the global settings |
| 21:19.32 | Mudkipz | buy |
| 21:19.59 | kergoth | i have the cluelessness one on my desk at work |
| 21:20.06 | kergoth | "There are no stupid questions, but there are a LOT of inquisitive idiots." |
| 21:20.29 | CIA-22 | 03evilelvis * r38486 10eeShards/core.lua: eeShards - added german translation for soulshard counting |
| 21:20.32 | snurre | Elkano: min[|||----------]max <-- is how much i understood :p |
| 21:20.36 | Mudkipz | i'm an inquisitive idiot |
| 21:20.44 | Mudkipz | curiosity killed that cat |
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| 21:20.50 | Mudkipz | applies to me daily |
| 21:21.09 | NightHawkTheSane | "If there are no stupid questions, then what kind of questions do stupid people ask? Do they get smart just in time to ask questions?" |
| 21:21.15 | kergoth | awesome, http://www.despair.com/customercare.html |
| 21:21.19 | Josh_Borke | NightHawkTheSane: they don't talk |
| 21:21.29 | Elkano | snurre, that's more then 90% of the world population would ;) |
| 21:21.50 | Elkano | snurre -> http://wdn.wowinterface.com/code/20126546/FrameXML/Fonts.xml |
| 21:21.53 | Roartindon | Hmm.. I currently hide the aggro gain bar if you're the aggro target.. is that a bad idea? |
| 21:22.16 | bigzero | sedatedChipmunk = hyperChipmunk afk? |
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| 21:22.48 | Elkano | snurre: this is the file where they are defined. so if you overwrite that variable with your data it should change the class color, as long as addons use that variable to set their color |
| 21:22.56 | Mudkipz | 5x7?? |
| 21:22.58 | Mudkipz | tooo small |
| 21:23.05 | Roartindon | I guess it has its use, in seeing how close others are to taking it off you... hmmmm. |
| 21:23.20 | Mudkipz | need that blown up to like 3 x 5 ft |
| 21:23.34 | Mudkipz | i want it HUEG |
| 21:24.24 | kergoth | Mudkipz: they sell posters too |
| 21:25.01 | Mudkipz | gah this is torture |
| 21:25.43 | Mudkipz | i was at Ikea one day and passed a chick wearing a domokun shirt |
| 21:25.50 | snurre | damn you, Roartindon.. now i gotta move my actionbars somewhere! :( |
| 21:25.52 | Mudkipz | i wanted to hug her :( |
| 21:25.57 | Mudkipz | I'm serious :-[ |
| 21:25.58 | Mudkipz | lmao |
| 21:26.14 | Roartindon | snurre: I'm gonna leave it for now :) |
| 21:26.17 | Gnarfoz | Mudkipz: rasterbator. |
| 21:26.24 | Roartindon | The aggro gain thing |
| 21:26.32 | Roartindon | your action bars are another issue tho :P |
| 21:26.48 | nadas | hmm, where did that litesteplite texture come from? |
| 21:27.18 | Kalman| | Gnarfoz: Rasterbator is fun. I wrote a MATLAB script once to compose mosaics of images from a library of other images, then rasterbated the result out of boredom. |
| 21:27.39 | kergoth | Mudkipz: http://www.despair.com/proc24x30pri.html |
| 21:27.59 | Mudkipz | troof |
| 21:28.20 | CIA-22 | 03saroz * r38487 10sRaidFrames/sRaidFramesOptions.lua: sRaidFrames: Sort debuff and buff filters |
| 21:29.22 | Gnarfoz | Kalman|: my head >_< ;D |
| 21:30.28 | Kalman| | Gnarfoz: Slice an image into a defined grid; for each segment, match a function of that section vs. a function of all images in a library; use the closest matched image to replace the segment. |
| 21:30.35 | Mudkipz | destiny demotivator ;_; |
| 21:30.44 | Aenslaed | heh |
| 21:30.46 | Kalman| | I was really, really bored at work, okay? |
| 21:30.49 | Aenslaed | I have Futility desktopper |
| 21:31.09 | Aenslaed | sits ontop of my computer case :D |
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| 21:31.29 | Aenslaed | http://www.despair.com/fut24x30prin.html |
| 21:31.37 | kergoth | hehe |
| 21:31.40 | [Liquidor] | Is this valid? |
| 21:31.42 | [Liquidor] | ... |
| 21:32.06 | [Liquidor] | self:ScheduleEvent("EventID", function(arg1, arg2), 30) ? |
| 21:32.09 | Mudkipz | haha what the heck |
| 21:32.15 | [Liquidor] | Conserned about the function arguments |
| 21:32.22 | Mudkipz | many of these are perfect for disaffected college students |
| 21:32.31 | Roartindon | [Liquidor]: that's not valid syntax |
| 21:32.44 | [Liquidor] | Oh don't mind self: |
| 21:32.47 | sedatedChipmunk | you can't do that |
| 21:32.48 | NightHawkTheSane | Mudkipz: i'm sure they were created by disaffected college studnets :P |
| 21:32.57 | [Liquidor] | But how do I pass on arguments? |
| 21:33.08 | Roartindon | self:ScheduleEvent("EventID", function(arg1, arg2) end, 30) |
| 21:33.12 | [Liquidor] | Or do I ahve to create some local variables outside the function? |
| 21:33.25 | Roartindon | you can pass them, just add them onto scheduleevent |
| 21:33.45 | Roartindon | self:ScheduleEvent("EventID", function(arg1, arg2) end, 30, passvalue1, passvalue2) |
| 21:33.45 | [Liquidor] | hmm but |
| 21:34.13 | [Liquidor] | I need to call a function, not create a new one in the schedule event |
| 21:34.17 | sedatedChipmunk | yea |
| 21:34.19 | Roartindon | then specify it |
| 21:34.26 | sedatedChipmunk | you want function, 30, arg1, arg2 |
| 21:34.27 | Roartindon | self:scheduleEvent("EventID", functionToCall, 30) |
| 21:34.35 | Cryect | well then replace "function(arg1, arg2) end" witht he name of your function |
| 21:34.42 | [Liquidor] | I got a function Alpha(arg1, arg2) end; in the file.. I need to call that one with ScheduleEvent |
| 21:34.54 | Cryect | just put Alpha there then |
| 21:34.55 | Mudkipz | http://www.despair.com/potential.html |
| 21:35.00 | sedatedChipmunk | [Liquidor]: what you want is to tack them onto the end of the call |
| 21:35.00 | Mudkipz | T_T* |
| 21:35.01 | [Liquidor] | But how do I pass on the arguments? |
| 21:35.07 | Roartindon | then use self:ScheduleEvent("EventID", Alpha, 30, arg1, arg2) |
| 21:35.08 | Kalman| | self:ScheduleEvent("EventID", alpha, 30, arg1, arg2) |
| 21:35.20 | [Liquidor] | Okay thanks |
| 21:35.30 | [Liquidor] | And with self? |
| 21:35.39 | [Liquidor] | self:ScheduleEvent("EventID", self.alpha, 30, arg1, arg2, self) ? |
| 21:35.51 | Roartindon | if you want a 3rd parameter |
| 21:35.53 | [Liquidor] | or is it self as first arg? |
| 21:35.59 | sedatedChipmunk | self:ScheduleEvent("EventID", "funcname", 30, arg1, arg2) |
| 21:36.03 | Roartindon | if you're calling functino MyAddon:Alpha(arg1, arg2) |
| 21:36.03 | sedatedChipmunk | or |
| 21:36.18 | sedatedChipmunk | self:ScheduleEvent("EventID", self.funcname, 30, self, arg1, arg2) |
| 21:36.19 | Roartindon | then it's self:ScheduleEvent("EventID", self.Alpha, 30, self, arg1, arg2) |
| 21:38.47 | [Liquidor] | if ( arg1 % arg2 ) == arg3 then or do I need to calc. the mod first before questioning it? |
| 21:39.01 | kergoth | questioning? |
| 21:39.04 | [Liquidor] | Uhm |
| 21:39.12 | [Liquidor] | Making the if-then statement |
| 21:39.23 | Roartindon | that's fine what you have |
| 21:39.27 | kergoth | arg1 % arg2 evaluates to the result of arg1 mod arg2, regardless of where you happen to be doing it. |
| 21:39.30 | sedatedChipmunk | http://lua.org/pil |
| 21:39.39 | sedatedChipmunk | read it before asking lua questions in here |
| 21:40.24 | [Liquidor] | Right, and I'm sure you all get offended by me asking a couple of questions in a currently inactive channel. |
| 21:40.57 | [Liquidor] | Thanks to those who answered tho <3 |
| 21:41.06 | hyperChipmunk | no, I'm just trying to save you some abuse |
| 21:41.09 | Josh_Borke | don't mind him, he's still grumpy |
| 21:41.14 | kergoth | he's right, we do. quit making your laziness our problem |
| 21:41.54 | [Liquidor] | Josh_Borke, I won't |
| 21:41.57 | Josh_Borke | and kergoth is just a n00b ;-) |
| 21:42.03 | kergoth | obviously |
| 21:42.07 | kergoth | ~kergoth |
| 21:42.16 | purl | i guess kergoth is Chris Larson, an open source developer working for CSC in Phoenix, AZ. Core developer on OpenZaurus, OpenEmbedded/BitBake, and TSLib. Often the resident BOFH and SCM(svn) nazi, and often an ass. Newbies and the clueless beware. Email at clarson@kergoth.com. |
| 21:42.26 | Josh_Borke | ... |
| 21:42.41 | Josh_Borke | is that you? |
| 21:42.54 | kergoth | yep, though i need to update it, i dont work for csc anymore |
| 21:43.08 | Josh_Borke | what is BOFH? |
| 21:43.13 | Roartindon | bastard operator from hell |
| 21:43.14 | Kalman| | bofh.ntk.net |
| 21:43.14 | NightHawkTheSane | bastard operator from hell. |
| 21:43.14 | hyperChipmunk | ~wtf bofh |
| 21:43.16 | Saroz | Bastard operator from hell |
| 21:43.22 | Josh_Borke | mmk. danke all that responded |
| 21:43.25 | Josh_Borke | ~botsnack |
| 21:43.25 | purl | Josh_Borke: aw, gee |
| 21:43.29 | Josh_Borke | purl, kergoth-- |
| 21:43.34 | NightHawkTheSane | lol |
| 21:43.43 | kergoth | purl: no, kergoth is Chris Larson, an open source developer working for Geco, Inc in Phoenix, AZ. Core developer on OpenZaurus, OpenEmbedded/BitBake, and TSLib. Often the resident BOFH and SCM nazi, and often an ass. Newbies and the clueless beware. |
| 21:43.57 | purl | okay, kergoth |
| 21:44.02 | deltron | lol @ littlewigs |
| 21:44.06 | kergoth | course i'll have to change that again in about 2 weeks |
| 21:44.13 | bigzero | hyperChipmunk, I wrote the code for shading items |
| 21:44.18 | bigzero | hyperChipmunk, check the branch |
| 21:44.22 | hyperChipmunk | righto |
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| 21:44.43 | hyperChipmunk | does it suck? |
| 21:45.07 | bigzero | on the contrary it powns...i wrote it :-) |
| 21:45.30 | Aenslaed | http://www.despair.com/nepotism.html |
| 21:45.33 | hyperChipmunk | rats |
| 21:45.38 | hyperChipmunk | then i can't pass it off as my own |
| 21:45.39 | Aenslaed | thats definitely one you mail to guild leaders |
| 21:46.04 | bigzero | hehe, feel free to pass it off as w/e you want...I just like to have that feature |
| 21:46.30 | CIA-22 | 03gagorian * r38488 10DrDamage/DrDamage.toc: |
| 21:46.30 | CIA-22 | DrDamage: |
| 21:46.30 | CIA-22 | - Removed ItemSets.lua from .toc.. cause like.. it was removed.. and stuff. |
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| 21:53.12 | vodrin- | is group members 'names above head' being same colour as other raid members intended or bug? |
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| 21:56.04 | Adirelle | ~seen rophy |
| 21:57.18 | purl | rophy <n=Miranda@220-132-204-186.HINET-IP.hinet.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 3d 23h 12m 14s ago, saying: 'ckknight: anyway... I see your point of view, i won't try to force you into following "my styles" if you don't want to.'. |
| 21:57.30 | Chompers | haw |
| 21:58.03 | Chompers | illhoofs one hectic fight |
| 21:58.32 | deltron | illhoof is so easy now |
| 21:58.43 | [dRaCo] | pretty easy if you know how to do it and brought a lock |
| 21:58.50 | deltron | yeah :P |
| 21:59.01 | deltron | and make everyone make a /tar chains macro |
| 21:59.12 | deltron | first night using dkp in new guild :/ |
| 21:59.27 | deltron | anyone have any recommendations for dkp tracking mods? |
| 21:59.48 | deltron | zero-sum dkp system is what we're going to use with mat donations |
| 22:02.20 | durcyn | ekraidattend seems the most robust |
| 22:03.00 | CIA-22 | 03roartindon * r38489 10TagCompiler-1.0/TagCompiler-1.0/TagCompiler-1.0.lua: |
| 22:03.00 | CIA-22 | TagCompiler-1.0 |
| 22:03.00 | CIA-22 | - Added ParseLogical step, which interprets "&" and "|" as "and" and "or". Makes writing filterTags for Assessment far clearer |
| 22:03.12 | kergoth | nice |
| 22:03.39 | deltron | looks a lot better than getdkp+ |
| 22:03.42 | deltron | well similar |
| 22:03.50 | deltron | but with better functionality |
| 22:04.11 | Josh_Borke | kergoth: so, do I work on ClickTip and get 3+ columns tested and working, or do I release LootTracker with a mostly working ClickTip now? |
| 22:04.33 | kergoth | i've never seen it with clicktip, so i cant say how needed 3+ columns is :) |
| 22:05.14 | Josh_Borke | it's not needed in LootTracker, but could be useful in other addons |
| 22:05.14 | Josh_Borke | it should auto-update itself, right? |
| 22:05.15 | Josh_Borke | i'll do that |
| 22:05.36 | Josh_Borke | it's about a 25% increase in processing time though, for the clickable tracker frame |
| 22:06.25 | sbu | hmmm |
| 22:06.48 | sbu | how does resilience crit immunity work (compared to def)? |
| 22:07.17 | sbu | is it 1 roll with resilience + def -crit chance to determine if its a crit or 2 rolls, 1 for resilience and 1 for def? |
| 22:08.31 | Gagorian | "dr damage dont work for me. i tryed to run wow with only dr damage but still dont work. i dont have any error when i start the game or anything just dont work" |
| 22:08.35 | Gagorian | Oh nice bug report |
| 22:08.43 | Antiarc|Work | .............. |
| 22:08.43 | Antiarc|Work | http://www.blizzard.com/blizzcon07/goodies.shtml |
| 22:08.44 | Antiarc|Work | WTB. |
| 22:08.46 | CIA-22 | 03nickenyfiken * r38490 10FuBar_TrainerFu/modules/DemonTrainer.lua: FuBar_TrainerFu: stupid! |
| 22:08.55 | Gagorian | I think I got the point at least that.. it don't work! |
| 22:09.43 | bigzero | stupid blizzard disabling error messages... |
| 22:09.49 | deltron | Antiarc|Work: LOL @ that |
| 22:09.51 | kergoth | Antiarc|Work: hahah |
| 22:11.02 | ZealotOnAStick | Antiarc|Work: so, Omen and Threat are looking pretty good. How close to ready for public consumption? |
| 22:11.14 | Saroz | How do you make a frame flash? |
| 22:11.21 | Antiarc|Work | ZealotOnAStick: A few showstopper bugs to work out, and then I'm going to give Omen a good overhaul, and then we're close to a 1.0 beta |
| 22:11.30 | Josh_Borke | Saroz: you either do it yourself or use the blizzard code |
| 22:11.40 | Antiarc|Work | Soulshatter and Righteous Defense need to be fixed and put in, respectively. |
| 22:11.47 | Saroz | UIFrameFlash? |
| 22:11.58 | Gagorian | Antiarc|Work: [2007/06/05 00:15:11-1461-x1]: Threat-1.0\Threat-1.0\ThreatClassModuleCore.lua:421: Usage: UnitAffectingCombat("unit") |
| 22:12.06 | Josh_Borke | sounds about right |
| 22:12.07 | Antiarc|Work | Gagorian: Yeah, should be fixed in the latest, I think |
| 22:12.20 | ZealotOnAStick | Hmm, what showstopper bugs are in place? Anything I can help on the testing of? |
| 22:12.25 | Gagorian | Humm, that was in the latest I believe |
| 22:12.26 | Antiarc|Work | Soulshatter doesn't work. |
| 22:12.29 | Antiarc|Work | Righteous Defense isn't in. |
| 22:12.32 | Antiarc|Work | Those are the two biggies. |
| 22:12.48 | ZealotOnAStick | Ahh. Yeah, what borked soulshatter? I thought Gagorian had that pretty well set? |
| 22:12.52 | Antiarc|Work | All the NPC modules need testing, and more modules need to be written |
| 22:12.58 | Antiarc|Work | Not sure, to be honest |
| 22:13.31 | Gagorian | It did work |
| 22:13.36 | Gagorian | I can check it again tomorrow |
| 22:13.45 | vhaarr | Saroz: Check BanzaiAlert |
| 22:15.09 | snurre | Roartindon: http://crit-happens.net/snurre/snurreui.jpg <-- how about that? :p |
| 22:15.27 | Saroz | vhaarr, I can't get it to work on my own frame, get a UIParent.lua error :p |
| 22:15.30 | Roartindon | snurre: Looks pretty clean :) |
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| 22:15.34 | vhaarr | Saroz: too bad :P |
| 22:15.47 | Saroz | :p |
| 22:15.50 | kenlyric | can cart_treasure do netherwing eggs yet? |
| 22:15.52 | evl | MAG DOWN :D |
| 22:15.55 | Roartindon | What are those buff icons on top of the combat log tho? |
| 22:15.56 | evl | woot for us ) |
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| 22:15.59 | Roartindon | evl: Grats |
| 22:15.59 | Josh_Borke | evl: woot! |
| 22:16.07 | evl | what a fucking ass boss |
| 22:16.11 | evl | 3-4 peeps dc'ing every try |
| 22:16.34 | Roartindon | evl: We had DC problems with him this weekend, spent almost 90 minutes on him, when we one shot him last week |
| 22:16.53 | Roartindon | Out of a raid of 25, it shouldn't be hard to find 10 people with stable connections, you'd think :) |
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| 22:21.56 | snurre | lol, close race between nihilum and curse now :p |
| 22:21.56 | Tuyk | Curse attempting Illidan too? |
| 22:21.56 | evl | My money is on Nihilum |
| 22:21.56 | evl | Cause they always seem to pull it off |
| 22:22.03 | snurre | appearantly curse have gotten him furthest so far |
| 22:22.49 | Roartindon | Wow, I didn't realise Curse was that far forwards |
| 22:23.03 | snurre | http://www.curse-guild.org/ill4.jpg |
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| 22:23.53 | deltron | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ooa8nHKPZ5k -_- |
| 22:23.59 | snurre | [21:04] * mackzter[Cu] changes topic to '- Curse | www.curse.com - www.curse-guild.org | SSC : 6/6 cleared - TK : 4/4 cleared - Hyjal : 4/5 down - Black Temple : 7/9 down | Mother of Shahraz down! -' |
| 22:24.04 | snurre | [23:21] * mackzter[Cu] changes topic to '- Curse | www.curse.com - www.curse-guild.org | SSC : 6/6 cleared - TK : 4/4 cleared - Hyjal : 4/5 down - Black Temple : 8/9 down | Mother of Shahraz & Illidari Council DOWN! -' |
| 22:24.29 | deltron | sweet curse uses the same mod I do |
| 22:24.31 | deltron | -_- |
| 22:27.08 | Xuerian | Deltron, wtf? >_> |
| 22:28.17 | deltron | what u know about math |
| 22:28.44 | abyssichate | I'd shoot the two guys in the forehead |
| 22:29.10 | Roartindon | deltron: I feel stupid for watching the first 10 seconds of that |
| 22:30.01 | abyssichate | I've watched it all, gg |
| 22:30.35 | deltron | lol |
| 22:30.38 | deltron | http://youtube.com/watch?v=K2f0aGMAx7w |
| 22:30.46 | deltron | ^^ funny idea |
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| 22:35.48 | kebinusan | deltron: that math video scares me |
| 22:36.00 | deltron | lol |
| 22:36.03 | abyssichate | FO3 trailer incoming soon! http://fallout.bethsoft.com/ |
| 22:37.13 | Xuerian | deltron: There's a decently funny clip :P. My YTLOTD: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eVcHljLpdzc ... oo. fallout. |
| 22:38.15 | deltron | lol |
| 22:38.15 | deltron | FiveCardArmy (1 hour ago) marked as spam |
| 22:38.16 | deltron | Ron Paul and this guy should get together and make sweet love. |
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| 22:38.58 | Xuerian | Would be scary, yet fascinating :p |
| 22:38.58 | deltron | where the heck did it pull that marked as spam out of? |
| 22:39.31 | deltron | I never played fallout :( |
| 22:39.49 | Tain | Turn in your gamer card. |
| 22:40.24 | Tain | Both Fallout and Fallout 2 are worth playing today. |
| 22:40.55 | abyssichate | I couldn't stand the crappy graphics |
| 22:41.00 | Tain | Lies. |
| 22:41.07 | abyssichate | I am pretty sure I'll give fallout 3 a try |
| 22:41.42 | Antiarc|Work | Hahahahahahahah |
| 22:41.43 | *** part/#wowace Punkie` (n=~@host86-130-2-120.range86-130.btcentralplus.com) |
| 22:41.45 | Antiarc|Work | http://www.lern2play.com/forum/showpost.php?s=899cde472de6e17f8d7fd240babe1d52&p=220745&postcount=10 |
| 22:41.55 | Antiarc|Work | "Violation has been using Threat1.0 for ages now, it's not like Omen is doing anything particularly new" |
| 22:42.04 | kergoth | ... wow |
| 22:42.09 | Killmore | HAHAHA |
| 22:42.10 | kergoth | people should try having facts, it helps |
| 22:42.10 | [Ammo] | what morons |
| 22:42.58 | vodrin- | Downloading the addons direct from the Ace files server doesn't come with everything preconfigured out of the box, custom edited mods, and config files manually stripped of garbage variables. |
| 22:43.06 | vodrin- | made me giggle |
| 22:43.32 | kergoth | was that sentence supposed to be english? |
| 22:44.04 | deltron | i think he wants compilations already done |
| 22:44.08 | Gagorian | Antiarc|Work: ROFL! |
| 22:44.12 | deltron | so he can have mazzlegasms!!! |
| 22:44.18 | Xuerian | St0ned, you've done it now |
| 22:44.19 | Xuerian | :p |
| 22:44.28 | Xuerian | Like the avatar though XD |
| 22:45.22 | Gagorian | "... and config files manually stripped of garbage variables." |
| 22:45.37 | Gagorian | It's horrible with all that garbage! |
| 22:45.51 | kergoth | local rotteneggs = false |
| 22:46.05 | deltron | wow |
| 22:46.07 | NightHawkTheSane | Antiarc|Work: wow. just.. wow. :P |
| 22:46.17 | deltron | castlevania: symphony of the night is 10 years old this year |
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| 22:47.52 | snurre | lol, that post is genious |
| 22:50.10 | Killmore | he just delete his post |
| 22:50.30 | snurre | is he in here? |
| 22:50.40 | Killmore | http://www.lern2play.com/forum/showthread.php?t=12441&page=3 |
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| 22:52.20 | CIA-22 | 03antiarc * r38491 10Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0/ (Threat-1.0.lua credits.txt): |
| 22:52.20 | CIA-22 | Threat-1.0: Added startup disclaimer message telling people to update ThreatLib |
| 22:52.20 | CIA-22 | often because it's gained far too much market penetration for how unfinished it |
| 22:52.21 | CIA-22 | is and I'm going to run into someone 6 months down the road running revision 153 |
| 22:52.21 | CIA-22 | or something and it's going to totally hork everything. |
| 22:52.41 | kergoth | hehe |
| 22:52.45 | Keias | hork, I like that word |
| 22:53.00 | kergoth | underused |
| 22:53.08 | abyssichate | I don't even know what it means |
| 22:53.09 | Xuerian | Antiarc|Sleep: haha. |
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| 22:53.28 | Cryect | haha Antiar! |
| 22:53.41 | Cryect | reminds me I better update it now before raid starts |
| 22:53.53 | deltron | lol |
| 22:53.59 | cotangent | I would guess it's based off something being "borked" |
| 22:54.11 | cotangent | which is from suome guy named bork and what happend to him |
| 22:54.16 | abyssichate | "To vomit. Also, to steal" |
| 22:54.31 | Mikk | hork is more active |
| 22:54.32 | kenlyric | all of those definitions are made up, and not realy standard. |
| 22:54.37 | Mikk | to be borked is more passive |
| 22:55.03 | deltron | we can use more nerd/coder lingo |
| 22:55.03 | deltron | needs more cruft |
| 22:55.04 | cotangent | The New York Times, the verb to bork might be defined as "to destroy a judicial nominee through a concerted attack on his character, background and philosophy."[3] |
| 22:55.09 | Antiarc|Work | abyssichate: Yes, it's going to vomit all over my copy of Threat |
| 22:55.10 | Antiarc|Work | :P |
| 22:55.10 | rubik | hmm.. looking at Threat-1.0/ClassModules/Warrior.lua... no threat for Bloodrage? or is it not documented/quantified anywhere? |
| 22:55.31 | Cryect | its a gain |
| 22:55.32 | Mikk | If you want cruft, may I suggest KTM, dear sir? |
| 22:55.33 | Antiarc|Work | rubik: Rage gains are handled in the general case, so there's no special handling needed for Bloodrage |
| 22:55.36 | shieldb | rubik, iirc bloodrage generates threat from the rage gain it provides, it doesn't have any innate threat |
| 22:55.45 | rubik | oh.. oops |
| 22:55.53 | rubik | you guys are right, of course |
| 22:56.10 | Adirelle | once I thought to an library that would tell you to update addons that embed it, by versionping sometimes |
| 22:56.35 | Adirelle | then I thought that no one would have such nagging in its addon, so I played with Violation |
| 22:57.32 | steev_ | erm, that revision 153 thing.... wont it not matter sinc eif they are running it, they will never see the warning to update? |
| 22:57.50 | CIA-22 | 03adirelle * r38492 10Violation/Other/Banzai.lua: Violation: Aggro duration (aka Banzai module) now resets without errors. |
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| 22:57.53 | rubik | Antiarc|Work: so rage gains are handled elsewhere? and trigger/add rage every time it increases (i.e. even due to some talents)? |
| 22:58.05 | Gagorian | rubik: Yes |
| 22:58.10 | rubik | cool |
| 22:58.10 | Antiarc|Work | Yup. |
| 22:58.24 | rubik | that's neat.. you guys rule |
| 22:58.32 | Antiarc|Work | Anything that causes you to gain extra rage that shows in the combat log will generate threat |
| 22:59.04 | Mikk | Same with extra energy and mana |
| 22:59.30 | Adirelle | anyone would like to see DPS against a given mob (say current target) in Violation ? |
| 23:00.02 | Dhirmadi | guys, quick pointer. i have the value of a textfiled stored in myText=myFontstring now i want to SetText("changeme") by using myText.setText("changeme") |
| 23:00.13 | Dhirmadi | but i am mising something... |
| 23:00.15 | Antiarc|Work | Adirelle: Eh. I generally just want to see my total DPS |
| 23:00.37 | Antiarc|Work | Single-target DPS is easy to benchmark when I need to |
| 23:00.58 | Adirelle | btw, I'm considering getting some modules out of Violation (like Banzai, that adds a reqdeps) |
| 23:01.38 | Adirelle | Antiarc|Work: I was thinking of something else, but I remember that's not the point of Violation :p |
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| 23:02.17 | Dhirmadi | anyone? |
| 23:03.01 | JoshBorke | 42! |
| 23:03.18 | Dhirmadi | gratulations |
| 23:03.33 | Dhirmadi | unfortunately that does not answer my questiomn ;) |
| 23:03.39 | Xuerian | Dhirmadi: myText:SetText("whatever") or myFontStringsName:SetText("whatever") |
| 23:03.49 | rubik | hmm.. weird.. just got: Omen-2.1r38453\Omen.lua:195: bad argument #3 to 'format' (string expected, got nil) |
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| 23:05.36 | CIA-22 | 03shieldb * r38493 10Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0/NPCModules/SerpentshrineCavern/Leotheras.lua: Threat-1.0: Clear Leotheras' threat on the whirlwind fade, not gain. |
| 23:05.50 | rubik | and another: Omen-2.1r38453\Omen.lua:196: Bad argument #2 to `IterateGroupThreatForTarget`. expected "string", got "nil" (nil) |
| 23:06.30 | Roartindon | rubik: Looks like Omen errors, rather than Threat |
| 23:06.49 | Antiarc|Work | I can't read it, but this is the kind of thing that tells me that there are too many people using Omen already :P -> http://wow.somegate.com/topic.php?topic_uid=76354 |
| 23:07.06 | Antiarc|Work | I hope that red text says THIS IS ALPHA EXPECT IT TO BREAK |
| 23:07.29 | CIA-22 | 03adirelle * r38494 10Violation/ (Violation.toc libs/): Violation: fixed TOC and externals. |
| 23:07.33 | Gagorian | omen? ktm??? ???? ???. ktm? omen???? ?????... |
| 23:07.33 | rubik | Roartindon: yeah.. two errors with latest svn Omen.. by just walking around in shattrath.. heh |
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| 23:08.02 | Chompers | \AddOns\PitBull\PitBull.lua line 1933: attempt to call global 'ScheduleDestroyClsuter' (a nil value) |
| 23:08.05 | Antiarc|Work | rubik: I tend to drycode during the day :) |
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| 23:08.52 | rubik | hehe.. as long as you fix eventually, just wanted to report |
| 23:09.30 | Adirelle | hey, where's the commit log's coming from ? |
| 23:09.37 | CIA-22 | 03shieldb * r38495 10Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0/NPCModules/SerpentshrineCavern/Morogrim.lua: Threat-1.0: Add 12 mobs instead of just setting it to 13, in case people are failing it pretty hard. |
| 23:09.39 | kergoth | ? |
| 23:10.07 | rubik | yeah.. on that korean forum page screenie, you mean? |
| 23:10.09 | Adirelle | in http://wow.somegate.com/topic.php?topic_uid=76354, there's a screenshot of a commit log, that merges both omen and threat logs |
| 23:10.10 | rubik | i was wondering too |
| 23:10.21 | rubik | (and Assessment) |
| 23:10.28 | rubik | http://wow.somegate.com/upload/netdesk_1180919733_32.jpg |
| 23:10.33 | vodrin- | if you still have murlocks up when 2nd set is coming |
| 23:10.39 | vodrin- | threat is the least of your issues ^_^ |
| 23:11.01 | shieldb | yeah |
| 23:11.06 | Antiarc|Work | Trac |
| 23:11.06 | shieldb | but it should at least be accurate ;) |
| 23:11.22 | Adirelle | Antiarc|Work: trac tracks external logs too ?? |
| 23:11.36 | Antiarc|Work | Trac is plugged into the SVN repo |
| 23:11.44 | Antiarc|Work | http://www.wowace.com/trac/timeline |
| 23:11.54 | Antiarc|Work | RSS feed there if you want it |
| 23:12.25 | kergoth | <3 trac |
| 23:12.26 | Antiarc|Work | You can see diffs there too |
| 23:12.50 | kergoth | i'd use trac for the repo browser and timeline alone. the svn web interfaces suck in general |
| 23:12.50 | kergoth | heh |
| 23:12.55 | Antiarc|Work | Yup |
| 23:12.56 | Gnarfoz | <@N|Awake> Nah we're getting more consumables <- they're really trying to get it done tonight, are they oO |
| 23:13.09 | Adirelle | changesets are quite nice |
| 23:13.28 | Antiarc|Work | http://svn.digitalsentience.com/svn/armory/ <-- I use a custom XSLT stylesheet on my personal SVN |
| 23:13.32 | Antiarc|Work | That's just mod_dav_svn though |
| 23:14.14 | Adirelle | (btw, I don't see how he's filtering only Threat/Omen changes, unless he wrote his own filter) |
| 23:14.18 | Gagorian | Gnarfoz: Err, nihilum? |
| 23:14.29 | snurre | Gnarfoz: both nihi and curse |
| 23:14.47 | Gnarfoz | Gagorian: yes |
| 23:15.02 | Gnarfoz | snurre: yes, but neither are disclosing their progress right now :D |
| 23:15.16 | Adirelle | anyway, my wife's angrying in bed, waiting after me, night dudes |
| 23:16.48 | *** part/#wowace Wogroipl_ (n=Wogroipl@c529c7a0e.cable.wanadoo.nl) |
| 23:17.26 | Roartindon | snurre: Was looking of a screenshot of mine to show you :) |
| 23:17.35 | Roartindon | snurre: Here's one: http://www.lim.com.au/wow/screenshot.jpg |
| 23:17.47 | Roartindon | My problem is I can't figure out where Iwant to move MT and other raid-only windows :) |
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| 23:18.58 | snurre | i have the mt frames at the same spot (whenever they decide to start working again) |
| 23:19.09 | snurre | havent seen either pitbull nor ora2 mt frames in weeks |
| 23:19.58 | Xuerian | Roartindon: Damn man, big screen o.0 |
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| 23:20.14 | Roartindon | Xuerian: heh, it's so nice to use :) |
| 23:20.23 | Xuerian | Roartindon: dimensions? |
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| 23:20.33 | Roartindon | 30" LCD, 2560x1600 |
| 23:20.39 | snurre | nerf |
| 23:20.44 | Killmore | nerf |
| 23:20.44 | snurre | im only on 2x 22" :( |
| 23:20.57 | Roartindon | 2x30" here, but I don't play WoW across both :) |
| 23:21.06 | Xuerian | X.x |
| 23:21.07 | snurre | me neither |
| 23:21.21 | Xuerian | 19"+17"crt <.< |
| 23:21.34 | ilifin | 30"? |
| 23:21.38 | ilifin | brand? |
| 23:21.40 | Roartindon | Dell |
| 23:21.42 | ilifin | oo |
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| 23:21.48 | ilifin | my rooommate has one of the 24" |
| 23:21.54 | ilifin | I got a 21" iMac myself + 17" LCD |
| 23:22.09 | Roartindon | Yeah, I had 24"s before from dell, they're nice |
| 23:22.14 | ilifin | m |
| 23:22.17 | ilifin | especially since powered usb hubs |
| 23:22.25 | ilifin | is there powered usb hubs in the 30"? |
| 23:22.29 | Roartindon | Yeah |
| 23:22.34 | Roartindon | And card readers |
| 23:22.36 | Roartindon | Just like the 24" |
| 23:22.40 | ilifin | hah awesome |
| 23:22.45 | Roartindon | But it doesn't have the variety of inputs like the 24" does |
| 23:22.51 | ilifin | aw |
| 23:22.54 | Roartindon | there's no TV in, or composite.. just DVI |
| 23:23.00 | ilifin | the 24" is awesome since it has scart etc |
| 23:23.18 | Roartindon | Yeah, the inputs on the 24" were fantastic |
| 23:23.44 | ilifin | yep, makeshift monitor for playing consoles on when your tv gets fried is awesome |
| 23:24.25 | Roartindon | heh, my monitors have always been better than my TVs.. |
| 23:25.09 | Kalman| | The 30" Dell is very, very good. |
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| 23:25.51 | ilifin | mm |
| 23:25.56 | ilifin | and very very expensive |
| 23:26.08 | Peoii | wow |
| 23:26.08 | ilifin | costs as much as my iMac did |
| 23:26.18 | Peoii | And I'm feeling all small now... with a 24 & 19 side by side. |
| 23:26.26 | Roartindon | Well, I spend almost 15 hours a day in front of the computer |
| 23:26.29 | Roartindon | so I figured why not |
| 23:26.38 | Roartindon | Peoii: Oh.. was trying to ping you earlier |
| 23:26.40 | Kalman| | I only have a 20" at home, but we use the 24s and 30s at work. |
| 23:26.51 | Roartindon | I went and invissed, started casting fireball, no macros or anything |
| 23:27.00 | Roartindon | and my invis cancelled as soon as I started casting fireball, not when it landed :( |
| 23:27.05 | Peoii | hrm.... |
| 23:27.15 | Peoii | I'll prolly be in SSC tonight, I'll test it completely :/ |
| 23:27.20 | Peoii | that's bizarre though |
| 23:27.26 | Roartindon | hmm.. maybe I should try again modless |
| 23:27.30 | Roartindon | but that was without macros/etc. |
| 23:27.33 | Peoii | aye |
| 23:27.53 | Kalman| | Roartindon: 2.1 changed it. |
| 23:28.00 | nymbia | yeah they messed with it |
| 23:28.08 | Kalman| | Invis cancels on start of cast, not on completion. |
| 23:28.09 | Roartindon | Kalman|: Well, Peoii is telling me that he can still fireball and get a full aggro wipe |
| 23:28.10 | nymbia | breaks when you start casts now |
| 23:28.15 | Peoii | Roartindon: ugh, ok... so I just treid it again... and it broke on cast. |
| 23:28.23 | Roartindon | lol |
| 23:28.39 | kergoth | <3 SVNIndexXSLT |
| 23:28.50 | Peoii | evil vile bastards. |
| 23:29.16 | Roartindon | so now we have to actually sit around and do nothing for 5 full seconds |
| 23:29.20 | Roartindon | if we want the aggro wipe :( |
| 23:29.35 | Peoii | give us a useful agro dump, then nerf the snot outta it... even though if a mob so much as sneezes at you, it breaks anyway |
| 23:29.40 | kergoth | dangit, montavista needs to hurry up and contact my references and make me an offer already |
| 23:30.30 | Peoii | I should just re-equip my trusty agro wipe... http://www.wowhead.com/?item=19290 |
| 23:30.40 | JoshBorke | how would i go about removing an entry from a # separated string, ie: 1#2#3#4 -> 1#2#4? |
| 23:30.41 | Roartindon | lol |
| 23:30.59 | Roartindon | JoshBorke: split it first, then rebuild? |
| 23:31.16 | rubik | did someone break XLoot? |
| 23:31.25 | deltron | anyone have any issues sending mail with gold today? |
| 23:31.33 | Roartindon | rubik: I thought Xuerian reverted his change? |
| 23:31.50 | Xuerian | rubik: I think I fixed it :p |
| 23:31.58 | Xuerian | rubik: Or made it less borked, at least |
| 23:33.12 | JoshBorke | could i use a gsub? |
| 23:33.30 | Roartindon | JoshBorke: depends how you want to specify the inputs/modifications? |
| 23:33.36 | rubik | i just grabbed latest svn (r38495) and i just get blizzard bag on looting.. hmmm |
| 23:33.56 | rubik | (and not XLoot bag.. but FuBar_MCPFu says XLoot is loaded) |
| 23:34.06 | Xuerian | 0_o |
| 23:34.33 | deltron | http://img369.imageshack.us/img369/4994/wowscrnshot060307183452dr2.jpg <-- i can't get the "really send" dialog box to go away |
| 23:35.48 | Xuerian | deltron: zomg hax <mouseover> /script (GetMousefocus()):Hide() |
| 23:36.04 | snurre | 55.9mb O.O |
| 23:36.15 | deltron | :) |
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| 23:36.56 | Fin | deltron: which bag mod are you using? |
| 23:37.03 | deltron | arkinventory |
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| 23:37.11 | deltron | ark started to do some weird stuff today |
| 23:37.11 | Keias | what bag mod is that? |
| 23:37.28 | Fin | thanks |
| 23:37.31 | Fin | ArkInventory |
| 23:39.05 | Keias | thanks |
| 23:39.20 | deltron | http://ace.pastey.net/51024 <-- getting 2 similar errors like that |
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| 23:42.02 | deltron | ok it's a bug with Bulkmail |
| 23:42.21 | Xuerian | Speaking of mods not working... |
| 23:42.22 | NightHawkTheSane | jesus, this shaman is so moronic. >< |
| 23:42.32 | Xuerian | Wonder if something else is going on >.> |
| 23:43.13 | Xuerian | .... |
| 23:43.17 | deltron | NightHawkTheSane: most shaman are retards |
| 23:43.24 | NightHawkTheSane | deltron: I'm not. >.> |
| 23:43.26 | Xuerian | Here's a stumper: Why didn't quartz load at startup.... |
| 23:43.46 | deltron | NightHawkTheSane: heh neither am I :P |
| 23:43.55 | Chompers | deltron: i see an old version of ktm and no Omen, whats going on? |
| 23:44.11 | deltron | omen is there |
| 23:44.21 | deltron | haven't bothered updating ktm though :P |
| 23:44.34 | Chompers | there it is! |
| 23:44.35 | Chompers | horay |
| 23:44.47 | rubik | Xuerian: iirc, quartz and/or S&D svn versions had an issue not getting along sometime last week.. |
| 23:45.01 | rubik | and Quartz didn't show up in S&D and didn't auto-load.. |
| 23:45.10 | Xuerian | rubik: I fully updated like... five... minutes ago 0.o |
| 23:45.17 | rubik | oh.. hrmm |
| 23:46.29 | Xuerian | perhaps enabling s&d would be of use |
| 23:46.33 | Xuerian | >.> |
| 23:47.29 | deltron | S&D? |
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| 23:47.38 | Xuerian | Didn't know quartz used s&d though |
| 23:47.41 | Xuerian | Supply & Demand |
| 23:48.39 | durcyn | forkliftgnome>s&d |
| 23:48.44 | kergoth | JoshBorke: http://ace.pastey.net/51030 perhaps? |
| 23:49.02 | Xuerian | durcyn: wtfnuggets? |
| 23:49.35 | durcyn | ForkliftGnome! |
| 23:49.36 | deltron | wow arkinventory takes up a lot of memory |
| 23:49.45 | deltron | it's 3rd behind btmscan and auctioneer |
| 23:50.14 | durcyn | your diminutive sarcastic LOD friend. |
| 23:50.15 | JoshBorke | nymbia beat you to it kergoth |
| 23:50.30 | kergoth | damn work interfering with my lua |
| 23:50.33 | kergoth | how dare it |
| 23:51.27 | rubik | Xuerian: weird, now xloot works.. after a reload.. ughh.. sorry for making you check |
| 23:51.37 | JoshBorke | kergoth: and i used string.find instead of select |
| 23:52.08 | kergoth | that's probably better, a find and a couple subs will generate fewer intermediate strings than an strsplit will |
| 23:52.23 | Xuerian | rubik: Yeah, I duno what's up with that. |
| 23:52.36 | Xuerian | durcyn: Uh-huh. I'll try it, I suppose :p |
| 23:52.42 | Xuerian | rubik: Don't worry about it :p |
| 23:52.54 | vodrin- | god i hate my server |
| 23:53.01 | vodrin- | no 7,8 of blessings |
| 23:53.12 | vodrin- | for the last three days, can't people get farming instances :< |
| 23:53.33 | kergoth | i hate my server too, too low a population :( |
| 23:54.30 | steev_ | FTW |
| 23:54.31 | steev_ | woot |
| 23:54.47 | steev_ | carried the flag back in eye of the storm, i love that place |
| 23:55.10 | kergoth | i need to play more eots, tis fun |
| 23:55.59 | kergoth | http://gizmodo.com/gadgets/it.s-real/the-wall-clock-265831.php - odd |
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| 23:58.29 | hypetech | what's a good mod for handing out/making food/water as a mage? |
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| 23:59.28 | Stan3 | who is responsible for bugs in the ace updater? |
