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| 00:00.21 | Antiarc|Work | snurre-: Hm. Thanks. |
| 00:00.26 | Antiarc|Work | I have to jet, but that's good data |
| 00:00.29 | Antiarc|Work | I'll check up o nit later. |
| 00:00.42 | snurre- | same, 2am and i gotta get up in 5h |
| 00:00.50 | snurre- | stupid work :( |
| 00:01.24 | Bakkoda | anyone know why i all of a sudden (after updating today) have some random bars in the middle of my screen. they look like small unit frames but they are blank |
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| 00:01.54 | grennon | theres a druid in my guild who uses RDX and wont stop because he likes the raid frames for healing |
| 00:02.05 | grennon | even though he has to reloadUI 4 times a raid |
| 00:03.08 | Bakkoda | i cant tell if its some kind of emergency monitor or jusyt a bugged raidframe |
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| 00:03.15 | snurre- | lol grennon |
| 00:03.33 | Tuykra | lol grennon, RDX heal frames are real nice, shame they are bloated as hell |
| 00:03.51 | Tuykra | Bakk, are they raid frames for a Unit frame addon you don't use? |
| 00:03.56 | Tuykra | like pitbull |
| 00:04.41 | Bakkoda | only frames i use are agUF and Grid |
| 00:04.50 | Bakkoda | also have ORA2 and bigwigs installed |
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| 00:05.39 | Funkeh` | Bakkoda: screenshot or it didn't happen |
| 00:05.45 | Bakkoda | lol k |
| 00:06.34 | F0x0r | Bakkoda: party targets |
| 00:06.36 | F0x0r | update again |
| 00:06.43 | F0x0r | or smash hide frames |
| 00:06.48 | F0x0r | until they are gone |
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| 00:07.26 | Bakkoda | http://www.bakkoda.com/misc/uibug.jpg |
| 00:08.27 | Bakkoda | lol checkin hide frames on everything i can |
| 00:08.33 | Tuykra | MT targets? |
| 00:08.44 | Tuykra | assist targets? |
| 00:08.52 | hyperChipmunk | just reading the RDX page...those guys are pretty full of themselves, aren't they |
| 00:09.05 | hyperChipmunk | I mean, I know programmers are arrogant by nature |
| 00:09.08 | ag` | Bakkoda: I think it's a bug someone added to aguf today, I think someone reverted it too, but it could be that |
| 00:09.10 | Bakkoda | Party Targets apparently. checked and unchecked it a few times and did a /reload |
| 00:09.20 | Bakkoda | all good now ty for the help |
| 00:09.23 | hyperChipmunk | but PAYING for the privilege to make suggestions to one of the authors? |
| 00:09.40 | ag` | anyone have screenshots of RDX? |
| 00:10.08 | Funkeh` | is there any popular mods still using PT2? |
| 00:10.08 | ag` | I'd like to know if they have any fun features I should bugger |
| 00:10.22 | hyperChipmunk | heh |
| 00:10.35 | hyperChipmunk | you can't even read the wiki to find out what the addon does w/o paying |
| 00:11.29 | Tuykra | yeh i only thing i use in RDX is the heal frames |
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| 00:11.35 | ag` | And what is RDX.sid? |
| 00:11.39 | ag` | what is heal frames? |
| 00:12.03 | kenlyric | the only thing rdx had going for it were dropdown timers for boss mods and in-combat sorting based on a variety of conditions. The first has already been...acquired, the second made impossible by 2.0. |
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| 00:12.24 | Diao | rdx.cid is a branch |
| 00:12.25 | hyperChipmunk | wtf uses the word informatics |
| 00:12.36 | Tuykra | yeh BigWigs is just as good for boss mods imo |
| 00:12.40 | Diao | free branch* |
| 00:12.52 | Funkeh` | we ahve that in bigwigs now |
| 00:12.55 | Funkeh` | dropdown timers ;) |
| 00:13.02 | hyperChipmunk | the word is fork, not branch |
| 00:13.20 | NightHawkTheSane | fork you, man! |
| 00:13.25 | snurre- | spork! |
| 00:13.32 | kergoth | ~hubris |
| 00:13.44 | purl | HUBRIS: Excessive pride, the sort of thing Zeus zaps you for. Also the quality that makes you write (and maintain) programs that other people won't want to say bad things about. Hence, the third great virtue of a programmer. |
| 00:13.44 | Tuykra | BigWigs > all imo |
| 00:13.47 | Funkeh` | ^^ |
| 00:14.56 | kebinusan | this is annoying |
| 00:15.11 | ag` | Oh, and other thing |
| 00:15.13 | kebinusan | people running IE are saying there is some kind of keylogger on my guilds homepage but I can find nothing of the sort |
| 00:15.18 | NightHawkTheSane | god I really hate java applications. They're always so unbelievably bad. |
| 00:15.54 | NightHawkTheSane | kebinusan: i was about to congratulate you on putting an ie-only keylogger on your website. :P |
| 00:15.57 | kenlyric | keyloggers are a way to keep IE users off the internet. |
| 00:16.48 | ag` | I haven't ran Aloft with disembed libs, so I am not 100% sure, but what could be the reason why Aloft uses ~2mb? |
| 00:17.13 | ag` | maybe it simply does too much, I don't know |
| 00:17.15 | Diao | because it's the first ace addon alphabetically so all mem usage is attributed to it? |
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| 00:17.41 | Funkeh` | you need disembed for real results really |
| 00:17.59 | ag` | That should not matter that much if it depends on Fubar, which I think it should be if it got a fubar plugin |
| 00:18.15 | ag` | because that would make it load after Fubar |
| 00:18.33 | kenlyric | alft is 1.13mb in mine, and I run in embeds. |
| 00:18.38 | kenlyric | strange that aloft isn't LoD |
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| 00:18.50 | Diao | no ag |
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| 00:18.51 | Funkeh` | probably will be in future |
| 00:18.58 | Diao | fubar is optional dep |
| 00:18.58 | Roartindon | ag`: Will talk about it in a sec, on the phone atm |
| 00:19.04 | Roartindon | ag`: (Aloft, that is) |
| 00:19.06 | kenlyric | I guess since it's loaded I should maybe use them :) |
| 00:19.11 | ag` | Roartindon: okay |
| 00:19.32 | aen` | fubar is my only resource hog |
| 00:19.43 | ag` | fubar is light I think |
| 00:20.00 | kenlyric | fubar isn't even in my top 7.\ |
| 00:20.02 | Neebler | ckknight has been neglecting it with all of his projects. I think |
| 00:20.03 | ag` | but you'll see it differently without disembeding |
| 00:20.37 | Funkeh` | fubar is extremely light.. |
| 00:20.44 | Funkeh` | its only a framework |
| 00:20.55 | ag` | Anyway as a disclaimer I am not claiming anything, I just noticed Aloft being high (~1.5-2mb) on my embedded setup |
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| 00:21.01 | liquiem | ag` afaik loft stores all informations about characer levels, race etc in savedvariables. maybe that explains the use of 2mb |
| 00:21.04 | kenlyric | fubar isn't even in my top 20 :) |
| 00:21.05 | ag` | so I haven't looked at code, tested it out |
| 00:21.12 | ag` | etc |
| 00:21.19 | Diao | you can disable that though |
| 00:21.20 | aen` | fubar uses 5.25mb, then baggins at 4.40 |
| 00:21.21 | NightHawkTheSane | seriously hate java. |
| 00:21.23 | Diao | or clear it i think |
| 00:21.24 | Roartindon | ag`: Okay, off the phone now.... Aloft takes ~900kb or so.. anything on top of that is due to the databases it's generating and building to provide the visual dispaly requested. |
| 00:21.32 | Roartindon | ag`: By default, some of these values are stored persistently |
| 00:21.37 | Funkeh` | aen` you are clearly using embed libraries |
| 00:21.39 | kenlyric | yeah, that's probably what will make aloft grow and grow and grow. Just like prat. |
| 00:21.45 | Roartindon | ag`: So you acn get pretty huge playername -> class databases |
| 00:21.54 | Roartindon | ag`: You can select NOT to store these persistently |
| 00:21.59 | ag` | okay, tried turning db stuff off, didn't make much of a difference |
| 00:22.01 | Roartindon | And it'll reacquire what data it needs each session |
| 00:22.03 | kenlyric | if only prat and aloft could use the same player database... |
| 00:22.05 | aen` | what libaries should i have? |
| 00:22.05 | ag` | but I should test it out with disembed |
| 00:22.06 | Roartindon | ag`: turn it off, and reload, |
| 00:22.19 | Roartindon | ag`: It doesn't dump it's data until you reload |
| 00:22.19 | ag` | yeah, did reload |
| 00:22.20 | Funkeh` | aen` you should use external libraries for accurate results |
| 00:22.33 | ag` | but I should just go ahead and do disembed testing |
| 00:22.46 | ag` | as I said I noticed it with embeds, so I don't have any claims |
| 00:22.49 | Roartindon | ag`: the other thing, it might be geting billed for Babble-Spell |
| 00:22.58 | ag` | yep, probably it |
| 00:22.58 | Diao | weird error |
| 00:23.03 | Diao | when i login |
| 00:23.04 | Diao | with violation |
| 00:23.16 | Roartindon | babble-spell is pretty big :) |
| 00:23.18 | Diao | or wait nm |
| 00:23.20 | Diao | that's skinner |
| 00:23.55 | aen` | Funkeh`: where should i get them? |
| 00:24.04 | Funkeh` | aen` do you use WAU? |
| 00:24.25 | aen` | no |
| 00:24.45 | Funkeh` | how do you update |
| 00:24.47 | ag` | what does Aloft use Babble-Spell for |
| 00:24.50 | aen` | manually :P |
| 00:24.56 | Funkeh` | ouch |
| 00:24.57 | Roartindon | kenlyric: I tried that originally..... however, prat doesn't build databases of opposing faction units |
| 00:24.59 | Funkeh` | tough luck then |
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| 00:25.12 | aen` | if i get WAU, itll use external libs? |
| 00:25.17 | Roartindon | kenlyric: So I ended up writing my own; and I also gather data from a couple of extra sources I think.. well, at least battleground score boards |
| 00:25.22 | Funkeh` | not by default, but it has an option to |
| 00:25.22 | Diao | if you get standalonelibs yes aen |
| 00:25.31 | ckknight | hey all |
| 00:25.33 | ckknight | how's everyone doing |
| 00:25.34 | CIA-22 | 03funkydude * r38996 10!!!StandaloneLibraries/ (CompostLib/ ParserLib/ PeriodicTable-2.0/ filelist.wau): |
| 00:25.34 | CIA-22 | !!!StandaloneLibraries: |
| 00:25.34 | CIA-22 | - remove CompostLib, your addon should not still use this |
| 00:25.34 | CIA-22 | - remove PeriodicTable-2.0, your addon should use 3.0 now |
| 00:25.34 | CIA-22 | - remove ParserLib, as 3.0 should suffice for 1.0 addons |
| 00:25.34 | Funkeh` | hey ckknight |
| 00:25.35 | ckknight | I'm back from work |
| 00:25.37 | ckknight | aen`: you set it if you want to use externals or not |
| 00:25.38 | kenlyric | Roartindon: or if prat could build off your name list :) |
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| 00:25.49 | aen` | how much mem usage would i save? |
| 00:25.53 | Funkeh` | none |
| 00:25.57 | aen` | total im only using 25-30 |
| 00:25.59 | Diao | WAU won't automatically delete those libs right |
| 00:26.00 | kenlyric | originally I was running the warcraft realms mod to have accurate data that prat and aloft were both also storing :) |
| 00:26.06 | Funkeh` | but you will get accurate results from cpu and memory usage |
| 00:26.09 | kenlyric | 3 full lists of people names :) |
| 00:26.28 | Roartindon | ag`: Right now, just Polymorph and ShackleUndead spell names... I could probably rip it out, but I had other mods on my system already using Babble-Spell, so I went and used it |
| 00:26.31 | ckknight | kergoth: cool, what for? |
| 00:26.41 | Roartindon | ag`: do you have any other mods that use Babble-Spell-2.2? |
| 00:26.42 | rubik | is there a way to use external libs if i update my addons using "svn up"? |
| 00:26.45 | kergoth | embedded linux position at montavista |
| 00:26.48 | kergoth | $15k more a year than i make now |
| 00:26.48 | rubik | (command line in a batch file) |
| 00:26.52 | ag` | Roartindon: not sure |
| 00:26.54 | kergoth | they went $5k over what i asked for |
| 00:27.00 | ckknight | kergoth: cool, gonna take it |
| 00:27.01 | ckknight | ? |
| 00:27.08 | hyperChipmunk | .. |
| 00:27.11 | ag` | Roartindon: I go with very few addons |
| 00:27.15 | kergoth | yeah, should be a good place to work, pays better, and is less of a drive |
| 00:27.16 | Roartindon | ag`: Cartorgrapher? |
| 00:27.18 | Roartindon | Grid? |
| 00:27.20 | ckknight | rubik: svn --ignore-externals up |
| 00:27.27 | Roartindon | Oh.. Threat uses it too |
| 00:27.29 | ag` | Roartindon: I have cart, so that should be fine then |
| 00:27.38 | Funkeh` | aen` its the same memory usage, but it means you will get real results from performancefu and such |
| 00:27.49 | rubik | ckknight: cool.. but how can i make sure that i still grab updates to libs that my addons use then? |
| 00:27.50 | Roartindon | XRS, oRA2 uses it |
| 00:28.13 | rubik | (since they're not inside each addon's dir anymore) |
| 00:28.15 | aen` | bleh, wau needs .net runtime |
| 00:28.22 | Roartindon | doing a quick search on my addons, Cart, Chronometer, Dorje, Eavesdrop, Grid, Threat, XRS and oRa2 all use babble-spell... |
| 00:28.22 | Funkeh` | yes |
| 00:28.38 | Roartindon | ag`: so I'll probably leave it in Aloft for now |
| 00:28.51 | ckknight | rubik: if you use standalones, yes |
| 00:29.06 | aen` | i was always too lazy to use WAU, but in the end itll save time i suppose, been having to update alot lately |
| 00:29.10 | NightHawkTheSane | rubik: if you're just doing something like `svn up *` in your addon repo, it'll update the libs too, as they're essentially just another addon. |
| 00:29.18 | aen` | http://configure.us.dell.com/dellstore/config.aspx?c=us&cs=04&kc=6W300&l=en&oc=bncwh3h&s=bsd |
| 00:29.22 | aen` | this seem like a good deal? |
| 00:29.26 | CIA-22 | 03beerke * r38997 10PeriodicTable-3.0/data.lua: |
| 00:29.26 | CIA-22 | PeriodicTable-3.0: |
| 00:29.26 | CIA-22 | - Underspore Pod and Skyguard Rations classified as fruit |
| 00:29.26 | NightHawkTheSane | rubik: but..er.. mass-updating addons via svn like that is a really dumb idea in general. |
| 00:29.27 | aen` | im thinkin about buying it |
| 00:29.35 | Galka___ | Is anyone here experiencing an oddity with any of their Ace2 mods such that when they join a raid with an individual who has them on ignore, they are being spammed with "Soandso is ignoring you."? |
| 00:29.35 | CIA-22 | 03funkydude * r38998 10/tags/PeriodicTable-2.0/: tagging |
| 00:29.36 | aen` | can get it 50$ cheaper with 60gb hd |
| 00:29.56 | CIA-22 | 03funkydude * r38999 10PeriodicTable-2.0/: deprecated, use 3.0 in your addons |
| 00:30.01 | aen` | ckknight: in pitbull when i switch targets it keeps the health bar of the previous mob, but the text shows the correct % |
| 00:30.10 | rubik | NightHawkTheSane: yeah.. i really need to set up a better way to update... |
| 00:30.27 | hyperChipmunk | sure the pods are fruit not fungus? |
| 00:30.52 | CIA-22 | 03funkydude * r39000 10/tags/CompostLib/: tagging |
| 00:31.00 | Funkeh` | only 1000 more |
| 00:31.04 | NightHawkTheSane | rubik: have you checked out WAU? Also, Kemayo has a nice python script that should be able to do that. Or if you're handy with code, write your own set of scripts. ;) |
| 00:31.17 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r39001 10Parser-3.0/Parser-3.0/Parser-3.0.lua: Parser-3.0 - make a nice error message when a filter won't load properly. |
| 00:31.23 | ckknight | aen`: any errors? |
| 00:31.31 | aen` | no |
| 00:31.35 | zanthor | lol, Omen 38987 - my threat bar is trucking clear off the right side of the screen |
| 00:31.43 | CIA-22 | 03funkydude * r39002 10CompostLib/: deprecated |
| 00:32.11 | ckknight | aen`: I'm not fond of dells |
| 00:32.15 | aen` | ckknight: im going to update here in a sec, ill let you know if i encounter it again |
| 00:32.31 | aen` | ckknight: but macs cost 5 million dollars :( |
| 00:32.38 | ckknight | mine was $2k |
| 00:32.39 | aen` | i like OSX though |
| 00:32.40 | rubik | NightHawkTheSane: i'll look into WAU again, thanks.. been a while since i messed with it.. can also code custom stuff with batch files or shell scripts so i'll check that one forum where people post cool updating scripts.. is kemayo's python stuff there? |
| 00:32.45 | ckknight | does the job very nicely |
| 00:33.39 | NightHawkTheSane | rubik: yeah, I believe Kemayo posted his script there. And he hangs around here too, so you can probably pester him if you catch him here :) |
| 00:33.48 | aen` | Funkeh`: do i just say, install/update marked with externals? |
| 00:33.59 | Galka___ | [2007/06/07 20:32:58-1007-x6]: Violation-1.0.38989\Violation.lua:1524: bad argument #2 to 'tonumber' (number expected, got string) |
| 00:34.02 | aen` | will that add the externals also? |
| 00:34.04 | Funkeh` | aen`: see the addon !!!standalonelibraries? |
| 00:34.13 | aen` | yes |
| 00:34.28 | aen` | mark and install it? |
| 00:34.32 | NightHawkTheSane | kergoth: to me, it seems like less of an issue with breakage as it is bandwidth/server load, i mean if you don't really need the absolute-bleeding-edge-up-to-thte-second revision on ALL your addons, updating from zips is probably saner :P |
| 00:34.34 | Funkeh` | tick it and update all installed addons |
| 00:34.56 | aen` | do i use with or w/o externals? |
| 00:35.04 | Funkeh` | the one at the very top |
| 00:35.23 | aen` | what if i dont want to update them all :P |
| 00:35.37 | Funkeh` | you are going to have to |
| 00:35.42 | kenlyric | this is not the update you are looking for |
| 00:35.43 | Funkeh` | to remove all the internal libraries |
| 00:36.34 | Funkeh` | anyway |
| 00:36.37 | Funkeh` | once you done that |
| 00:36.46 | Funkeh` | select reinstall all addons |
| 00:36.48 | aen` | im done already |
| 00:36.58 | Funkeh` | that will re-install them all without externals |
| 00:37.23 | kergoth | NightHawkTheSane, ah, well, true. course i maintain local mirrors of everything, so the only server load is a daily mirror update per svn server :) course most dont do that |
| 00:37.24 | kergoth | heh |
| 00:37.45 | aen` | k, im finished |
| 00:37.49 | aen` | let me check the usage now |
| 00:38.23 | NightHawkTheSane | kergoth: heh, yeah i remember you mentioning that. :P sounds convoluted to me, but eh, whatever works. :) |
| 00:38.45 | aen` | damn, UI blew up |
| 00:39.01 | aen` | i do see more accurate results though |
| 00:39.41 | Funkeh` | how did it blow up? |
| 00:39.53 | Funkeh` | you qill need to quit wow complety ofc |
| 00:39.57 | aen` | i did |
| 00:39.58 | Funkeh` | and start it up again |
| 00:40.00 | aen` | lots of errors though |
| 00:40.01 | Funkeh` | alright |
| 00:40.05 | Funkeh` | what errors? |
| 00:40.10 | aen` | few mods |
| 00:40.21 | Funkeh` | type some ill give you a hand |
| 00:40.47 | CIA-22 | 03beerke * r39003 10FrameLib/FrameLib.lua: |
| 00:40.47 | CIA-22 | FrameLib: |
| 00:40.47 | CIA-22 | - fixed references to frame in slider options |
| 00:40.54 | CIA-22 | 03funkydude * r39004 10BigWigs/TheEye/Kaelthas.lua: BigWigs: TheEye/kaelthas: fix proximity option |
| 00:41.14 | aen` | one sec |
| 00:42.16 | kenlyric | framelib a new lib? |
| 00:42.29 | aen` | does this load unneeded libs? |
| 00:42.32 | CIA-22 | 03sylvanaar 07sylvanaar * r39005 10Prat/teststuff/ (10 files in 2 dirs): Test CO |
| 00:42.37 | beerke | Kinda a progress in work kenlyric |
| 00:42.39 | kenlyric | I just noticed I have a KotJ error asking for it, but KotJ seems to be working just fine. |
| 00:42.47 | beerke | just fixed that |
| 00:42.50 | Funkeh` | aen`: nope |
| 00:42.55 | aen` | my usage is up another 5mb or so |
| 00:43.07 | aen` | i dunno if thats b/c it installed the packages or not |
| 00:43.11 | Funkeh` | aen`: all the libs are Load On Demand, they only load if an addon needs them |
| 00:43.12 | aen` | the extra pitbull/cart packs |
| 00:43.55 | Funkeh` | yeah if you turn off features you don't want in cart/pitbull they won't load now, you don't get that advantage with downloading manually, unless you used the bat file |
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| 00:45.09 | aen` | reverted for a sec and errors poofed |
| 00:46.17 | Funkeh` | what did you revert? |
| 00:46.47 | aen` | to external libs |
| 00:47.30 | CIA-22 | 03sylvanaar 07sylvanaar * r39006 10Prat/teststuff/ (6 files in 2 dirs): try2 |
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| 00:49.43 | CIA-22 | 03sylvanaar 07sylvanaar * r39007 10Prat/teststuff/WowAceUpdater_1_8_29_259/ (3 files): try3 |
| 00:50.36 | CIA-22 | 03sayclub * r39008 10Omen/localization_koKR.lua: Omen : Updated localization koKR |
| 00:50.40 | Funkeh` | sylvanaar: what crazy stuff you making |
| 00:50.51 | CIA-22 | 03beerke * r39009 10FrameLib/FrameLib.lua: |
| 00:50.51 | CIA-22 | FrameLib: |
| 00:50.51 | CIA-22 | - Some more fixes to slider |
| 00:51.50 | CIA-22 | 03roartindon * r39010 10Aloft/Modules/ThreatData.lua: Aloft: Delayed requesting Threat-1.0 until ThreatData is required. Now handles ClearThreat event too. |
| 00:52.53 | Tuykra | getting an error with Assessment |
| 00:53.02 | Roartindon | Tuykra: What error? |
| 00:53.05 | Tuykra | Assessment-1.0\Modules\Damage.lua:392: attempt to index local 'hitDetails' (a nil value) |
| 00:53.05 | aen` | anyone remember that mod that put recipes on the map and you could filter based on profession/already known/etc? |
| 00:53.13 | Diao | reciperadar? |
| 00:53.18 | aen` | yeah thats it |
| 00:53.26 | aen` | should build that into cart imo |
| 00:53.41 | Roartindon | Tuykra: Latest update I assume? |
| 00:53.48 | Tuykra | let me check 2 secs |
| 00:54.35 | Tuykra | 38950 |
| 00:55.02 | Roartindon | hmm.. update, there's at least 38981 |
| 00:55.13 | Roartindon | It may require you to clear your saved variables |
| 00:55.15 | CIA-22 | 03beerke * r39011 10KingOfTheJungle/KingOfTheJungleUIOptions.lua: |
| 00:55.15 | CIA-22 | KingOfTheJungle : |
| 00:55.15 | CIA-22 | - Finished conversion to FrameLib on UIOptions.lua |
| 00:55.19 | Roartindon | or just your fight data |
| 00:55.29 | Roartindon | (click on assessment on the fubar, if updating from previous version) |
| 00:55.30 | Tuykra | Ok.. |
| 00:55.56 | Tuykra | yeh i updated 5 hours ago from WAU, cache may not have updated |
| 00:57.08 | boobies4u | d |
| 00:57.18 | zanthor | Every time Omen goes to clear, my threat bar extends to infinity off the right |
| 00:57.29 | Roartindon | zanthor: Sounds like a divide by zero :) |
| 00:57.57 | hyperChipmunk | Bibi`ouF: was it you that had the pic of the new 2.1.2 honor prices? |
| 00:57.59 | Roartindon | Tuykra: I just had a look, should work fine if you clear your fight data.. right cilck on menu -> Reset |
| 00:58.04 | Roartindon | or delete per-character SVs |
| 00:58.13 | Bibi`ouF | hyperChipmunk : the huge one ? yeah |
| 00:58.16 | Roartindon | but update anyway, some new stuff added since 38950 :) |
| 00:58.18 | Bibi`ouF | must be in the 2.1.0 screenshot post |
| 00:58.26 | Tuykra | ok will do |
| 00:59.24 | hyperChipmunk | i dun see it |
| 00:59.40 | hyperChipmunk | oh, 2.1.0 |
| 00:59.52 | Bibi`ouF | http://www.mmo-champion.com/images/news/210/bigpost/pvprewards.jpg |
| 01:00.04 | Bibi`ouF | gem price not up to date anymore |
| 01:00.15 | Bibi`ouF | because blizzard keeps changing them just to make me angry |
| 01:00.15 | *** join/#wowace RLD_osx (n=rldempse@66-169-191-207.dhcp.ftwo.tx.charter.com) |
| 01:00.15 | Bibi`ouF | :( |
| 01:01.00 | hyperChipmunk | the rest are current for 2.1.2 |
| 01:01.01 | hyperChipmunk | ? |
| 01:01.18 | vodrin | no |
| 01:01.19 | Bibi`ouF | don't know |
| 01:01.24 | Bibi`ouF | they removed them from the PTR in 2.1.2 |
| 01:01.31 | hyperChipmunk | Arena and Honor Rewards: As part of the inauguration of Season 2, the costs of all Arena items and Honor items has been reduced. |
| 01:01.31 | vodrin | medalion is 18673 |
| 01:01.41 | Bibi`ouF | (i mean the epic parts) |
| 01:01.45 | Bibi`ouF | (don't care about the rare, they suck) |
| 01:01.55 | CIA-22 | 03sylvanaar 07sylvanaar * r39012 10Prat/teststuff/ (10 files in 4 dirs): try4 |
| 01:02.00 | hyperChipmunk | i swear someone posted a screenshot |
| 01:02.05 | *** part/#wowace Wogroipl_ (n=Wogroipl@c529c7a0e.cable.wanadoo.nl) |
| 01:02.16 | hyperChipmunk | it was a crummy one |
| 01:02.20 | hyperChipmunk | not a big nice one |
| 01:02.35 | Bibi`ouF | don't know then |
| 01:02.47 | ZealotOnAStick | zanthor: Blackhand? |
| 01:02.54 | ZealotOnAStick | Antiarc: ping |
| 01:03.30 | shieldb | hmm, multiple lists in violation are sexy, but how do I lock the window in place and adjust scale now? |
| 01:04.13 | Galka___ | Seems to be bugged |
| 01:04.16 | Diao | the fubar click to hide/show bars for violation doesn't work anymore |
| 01:04.18 | Galka___ | I cant change the bar textures either |
| 01:04.27 | Diao | adjusting scale you just go to the bottom right corner and click+drag afaik |
| 01:04.31 | Diao | dunno about the rest |
| 01:04.57 | aen` | Funkeh`: only one that blows up is aloft when i use external libs |
| 01:05.13 | Funkeh` | what does it say aen` ? |
| 01:05.22 | zanthor | yes Tenebra |
| 01:05.58 | CIA-22 | 03sylvanaar 07sylvanaar * r39013 10Prat/teststuff/WowAceUpdater_1_8_29_260/WowAceUpdater.exe.manifest: try to fix hash calc |
| 01:06.20 | CIA-22 | 03beerke * r39014 10KingOfTheJungle/KingOfTheJungle.lua: |
| 01:06.20 | CIA-22 | KingOfTheJungle : |
| 01:06.20 | CIA-22 | - Too much code cleaning, fixed some stuff that shouldn't have been cleaned |
| 01:09.08 | *** join/#wowace Kilroo (n=Bob@cpe-071-076-173-175.triad.res.rr.com) |
| 01:09.31 | sylvanaar | well, that was painful |
| 01:10.42 | stavmar | my omen has my bar outside teh frame and across the whole screen everyone else is presenting AOk |
| 01:11.41 | Funkeh` | http://www.warcraftmovies.com/download.php?id=41294&mirror=2 |
| 01:12.25 | shieldb | Diao, not adjusting the size of the violation windows |
| 01:12.27 | shieldb | adjusting the scale |
| 01:12.41 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r39015 10Parser-3.0/Parser-3.0/Parser-3.0.lua: |
| 01:12.41 | CIA-22 | Parser-3.0 - make a streamlined filter validation system. |
| 01:12.41 | CIA-22 | - Optimize eventType_not. |
| 01:13.01 | ckknight | who was having Parser-3.0 issues earlier? |
| 01:13.23 | ckknight | nadas: ping |
| 01:14.16 | BankZ | What addon would you guys recommend to track my hots and dots? |
| 01:14.26 | BankZ | to time |
| 01:15.01 | Diao | oh |
| 01:15.09 | Diao | quartz has one built in |
| 01:15.15 | Diao | if you use that for cast bar |
| 01:15.49 | *** join/#wowace Gamefaq (i=Gamefaq@pD9E637DF.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 01:15.56 | Funkeh` | http://www.warcraftmovies.com/download.php?id=41272&mirror=1 |
| 01:16.10 | sylvanaar | what is the svn command to commit everything, even the nonversioned stuff |
| 01:16.21 | *** join/#wowace Soulless (n=Fridgid@24.96.171.248) |
| 01:16.36 | hyperChipmunk | svn add *; svn commit |
| 01:16.36 | hyperChipmunk | ? |
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| 01:17.17 | BankZ | I do, but seems to only work on Targer and Foucs |
| 01:17.20 | *** join/#wowace rophy (n=Miranda@220-132-204-186.HINET-IP.hinet.net) |
| 01:17.52 | Diao | well, yeah |
| 01:17.56 | Nebucadnezar | Hey CK! |
| 01:18.00 | Diao | classtimers i guess? |
| 01:18.00 | Diao | maybe |
| 01:18.11 | ckknight | hey Nebucadnezar |
| 01:18.39 | Nebucadnezar | Took your advice. Loaded WAU and here I am... :) |
| 01:18.50 | Nebucadnezar | You were right. Much better tool... |
| 01:19.00 | ckknight | yep |
| 01:19.21 | ckknight | too little ROI |
| 01:19.22 | Nebucadnezar | Except now you have me tweaking like a mad man. |
| 01:19.30 | ckknight | lol. |
| 01:19.30 | NightHawkTheSane | sylvanaar: there's no one command that'll do that, what hyperChipmunk is what you want, assuming a mix of versioned/unversioned files |
| 01:19.40 | Nebucadnezar | I think I have added another 10 addons since I installed WAU |
| 01:19.57 | Nebucadnezar | And, I switched to PitBull too. |
| 01:20.01 | NightHawkTheSane | That reminds me, I ought to work on getting my script to update from wowi |
| 01:20.16 | ckknight | Nebucadnezar: shiny |
| 01:20.30 | ckknight | Nebucadnezar: what were you using before? |
| 01:20.43 | Nebucadnezar | Still trying to get the hang of it. You planning on putting a nice window together or am I stuck with the right-click menu? |
| 01:20.48 | Nebucadnezar | Klik |
| 01:20.55 | Roartindon | Nebucadnezar: you acn use niagara :) |
| 01:21.09 | Xuerian | Nebucadnezar: It's evil incarnate |
| 01:21.10 | Xuerian | Nebucadnezar: But |
| 01:21.14 | Xuerian | Nebucadnezar: niagra ftw |
| 01:21.21 | Nebucadnezar | lol |
| 01:21.29 | NightHawkTheSane | how is niagara evil incarnate? :P |
| 01:21.40 | CIA-22 | 03rophy * r39016 10ParserLib/ParserLib-1.1/ParserLib.lua: |
| 01:21.40 | CIA-22 | ParserLib-1.1: |
| 01:21.40 | CIA-22 | - RegisterInfoType() passes event name as the 3rd arg. |
| 01:21.40 | CIA-22 | - RegisterEvent() and RegisterInfoType() now accepts table as the addonID, in this case the handler (either string or function) should be a method, i.e. addonID will be passed to the handler as the first arg. |
| 01:22.16 | Xuerian | NightHawkTheSane: It contributes to the general practices of not making options interfaces for mods that goes on here (And I'm a happy contributer to, Dewdrop Icon Badge here) :P |
| 01:22.42 | ckknight | what's so bad about that? |
| 01:22.43 | NightHawkTheSane | Xuerian: meh, why bother making an interface when someone else can? :P |
| 01:23.10 | Xuerian | ckknight, NightHawkTheSane: Respect mah lack of authoritah! |
| 01:23.12 | Xuerian | I have no good reason :) |
| 01:23.15 | Nebucadnezar | So, is Niagara an interface to PitBull or a replacement of PitBull? |
| 01:23.24 | ckknight | Nebucadnezar: options addon. |
| 01:23.29 | Roartindon | Nebucadnezar: It's the configuration system for everything :) |
| 01:23.29 | ckknight | Nebucadnezar: well, config addon |
| 01:23.41 | ckknight | Nebucadnezar: try it out, see what you think |
| 01:23.41 | Xuerian | Nebucadnezar: Niagra is a aggregate general options interface that displays options for anything that uses AceOptions tables and registers them with AceConsole |
| 01:23.58 | ckknight | Antiarc: ping |
| 01:23.59 | Nebucadnezar | Hmmm. I will have to go check that out now! |
| 01:23.59 | Nebucadnezar | Kind of like Duece? |
| 01:24.03 | Roartindon | Yeah |
| 01:24.07 | Xuerian | Nebucadnezar: Right |
| 01:24.09 | ckknight | DeuceCommander |
| 01:24.11 | ckknight | but yea |
| 01:24.27 | Nebucadnezar | Sorry, been typing all day so I was shortcutting. =-o |
| 01:24.31 | NightHawkTheSane | its precisely like that, except less old and busted dropdowns, more new hotness windows. |
| 01:24.42 | Nebucadnezar | Is Niagara in WAU? |
| 01:24.49 | NightHawkTheSane | yes |
| 01:25.06 | Nebucadnezar | SChweeeet. CK - My wife is going to hate you for turning me on to the WoWace site. |
| 01:25.13 | ckknight | lol, why's that? |
| 01:25.38 | Xuerian | Niagra really needs to expand the entries and such when the window expands |
| 01:25.39 | Nebucadnezar | I am going to spend too much time tweaking now versus playing, so that means I have to add more WoW time! |
| 01:25.43 | Xuerian | It annoys me when they're half-wide |
| 01:26.09 | Xuerian | Nebucadnezar: That's somewhere around #3 or 4 of "How to tell if you're a Ace Junkie" |
| 01:26.09 | ckknight | Nebucadnezar: lol, I hardly play, I just code all the time :-P |
| 01:26.20 | Xuerian | Get to 70 yet, ck? :p |
| 01:26.27 | ckknight | halfway there! |
| 01:26.32 | ckknight | I dinged 35 yesterday |
| 01:26.40 | NightHawkTheSane | lol |
| 01:26.53 | Xuerian | lol |
| 01:26.55 | NightHawkTheSane | i started a hunter a couple weeks ago, he's 32. :P |
| 01:26.55 | Nebucadnezar | I can't give up on the playing quite yet. I suppose if I decided to put my coding hat back on I might. |
| 01:27.25 | Nebucadnezar | Besides, I only have one (1) 70 at the moment. I won't be leet till I have at least 3 or 4 |
| 01:27.43 | Nebucadnezar | :P |
| 01:27.58 | ckknight | what do you play? |
| 01:28.00 | ckknight | I'm a pally |
| 01:28.19 | Nebucadnezar | 70 Priest and a 33 Mage currently |
| 01:28.27 | ckknight | ah, alright |
| 01:28.36 | Nebucadnezar | Shadow and Fire, respectively |
| 01:29.02 | NightHawkTheSane | I have a hard time leveling up a second 70 on the same server. *shrug* |
| 01:29.29 | rubik | hmm.. someone broke Mendeleev |
| 01:29.46 | Roartindon | NightHawkTheSane: I had a guy in my guild, who had two level 60 warriors, and two level 60 shaman. |
| 01:29.54 | Nebucadnezar | NightHawkTheSane: Why's that? |
| 01:29.56 | Tuykra | O.O why? |
| 01:29.58 | NightHawkTheSane | Roartindon: on the same server? o_0 |
| 01:30.03 | BankZ | Any other suggestions for timers for Hots and dots |
| 01:30.04 | Roartindon | NightHawkTheSane: Yes, all horde |
| 01:30.16 | Nebucadnezar | Horde - FTW |
| 01:30.17 | Roartindon | NightHawkTheSane: He levelled his first orc warrior, then decided he'd be a better tank if he levelled a tauren |
| 01:30.28 | NightHawkTheSane | Nebucadnezar: i'm a perfectionist. I end up focusing on one character until it's "finished" so to speak. Given the nature of an mmog.. that doesn't happen, and doesn't leave much time for alts. :P |
| 01:30.33 | Roartindon | And he has two level 60 shaman, same server, both horde.. this was back pre 2.0 |
| 01:30.40 | Roartindon | then he rolled a pally in 2.0 and hasn't looked back |
| 01:30.47 | NightHawkTheSane | Roartindon: that's insane. I'd never roll two of the same class on the same server. >< |
| 01:30.49 | *** part/#wowace Nightdew_ (n=Nightdew@24.30.120.48) |
| 01:30.49 | Nebucadnezar | Very true! Hence, why my mage is still at 33.... |
| 01:30.58 | ckknight | I was a BE pally then grew frustrated by the high population of 12-year-old blood elves |
| 01:31.01 | ckknight | now I'm a draene |
| 01:31.04 | Roartindon | NightHawkTheSane: yeah, it is insane :) He's one of our best players by far. |
| 01:31.06 | ckknight | draenei* |
| 01:31.18 | Roartindon | when he was a tank, we'd just go nuts on dps, and he'd hold all the threat |
| 01:31.27 | Nebucadnezar | LOL |
| 01:31.33 | NightHawkTheSane | I also vowed that I'd never level up another warrior. One was enough, thanks. >< |
| 01:31.35 | Roartindon | We put ktm on at one stage, and his tps was somewhere around 1.5k back in MC |
| 01:31.35 | Nebucadnezar | It was funny when I created my BE Mage |
| 01:31.52 | Nebucadnezar | All the 11'teen year old running around there with the new BE's |
| 01:31.56 | NightHawkTheSane | Roartindon: *boggle* |
| 01:31.59 | ag` | Can someone with US access please bump this thread |
| 01:32.00 | ag` | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=108236491&sid=1 |
| 01:32.03 | CIA-22 | 03sylvanaar 07sylvanaar * r39017 10Prat/teststuff/ (8 files in 2 dirs): tic+ |
| 01:32.13 | Roartindon | NightHawkTheSane: And now he plays a pally.. I should grab hte healing meters from our last mag kill |
| 01:32.25 | Roartindon | NightHawkTheSane: he was 2.5 times the next person.. and no one died....... |
| 01:32.36 | NightHawkTheSane | Roartindon: people like that tend to be good regardless of what they do. :P |
| 01:32.36 | Nebucadnezar | What server are you guys on? |
| 01:33.01 | Roartindon | I'm on silvermoon |
| 01:33.20 | Nebucadnezar | I have a friend on that one. Personally, I am on Dragonmaw. |
| 01:33.38 | Roartindon | Sadly, ours is one of the few day-1 servers that never killed Kel'thuzad, alliance or horde :( |
| 01:33.40 | Roartindon | We're a backwards lot |
| 01:33.59 | Nebucadnezar | Is Silvermoon a care bear server? |
| 01:33.59 | CIA-22 | 03beerke * r39018 10KingOfTheJungle/KingOfTheJungle.lua: |
| 01:34.00 | CIA-22 | KingOfTheJungle : |
| 01:34.00 | CIA-22 | - Changed some code around so it is in a more logical place |
| 01:34.07 | Roartindon | I'll blame not being able to raid properly for 3-4 months due to server lag back in BWL.. but... other servers had that too Ithink :) |
| 01:34.15 | Roartindon | Nebucadnezar: Reasonably :) |
| 01:34.36 | NightHawkTheSane | ,u warropr |
| 01:34.38 | NightHawkTheSane | blah |
| 01:34.41 | Nebucadnezar | Right on. I started on one of those and all my friends wanted to go PVP. |
| 01:34.45 | NightHawkTheSane | my warrior's on hakkar, and my shaman's on laughing skull.. |
| 01:34.49 | aen` | is it not normal to get a call from someone u havent saw in 3+ years asking to go out to do something? |
| 01:35.03 | Roartindon | aen`: depends.. is it a family member? :) |
| 01:35.07 | aen` | no |
| 01:35.17 | Roartindon | ex gf? |
| 01:35.23 | aen` | nope |
| 01:35.43 | Roartindon | probably not too normal :) |
| 01:35.44 | Funkeh` | your mom? |
| 01:35.57 | aen` | just a friend |
| 01:36.09 | CIA-22 | 03sylvanaar 07sylvanaar * r39019 10Prat/teststuff/WowAceUpdater_1_8_29_261/WowAceUpdater.exe.manifest: lies |
| 01:36.11 | NightHawkTheSane | Funkeh`: lol |
| 01:36.20 | Funkeh` | NightHawkTheSane: <3 |
| 01:36.32 | NightHawkTheSane | Funkeh`: if "someone i havnt heard from in 3+ years" was my mom, i'd do my best to keep up the trend. |
| 01:37.05 | aen` | haha |
| 01:37.21 | Roartindon | I'd never get 3 years without a call from my parents |
| 01:37.26 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r39020 10Parser-3.0/Parser-3.0/Parser-3.0.lua: |
| 01:37.26 | CIA-22 | Parser-3.0 - for Parser-1.1 compat, |
| 01:37.26 | CIA-22 | - RegisterInfoType() passes event name as the 3rd arg. |
| 01:37.26 | CIA-22 | - RegisterEvent() and RegisterInfoType() now accepts table as the addonID, in this case the handler (either string or function) should be a method, i.e. addonID will be passed to the handler as the first arg. |
| 01:37.27 | Nebucadnezar | Just installed Niagara, so I have to check this out. |
| 01:37.30 | Roartindon | they're sure to require some computer technical assistance every week |
| 01:37.31 | NightHawkTheSane | I'm lucky to get three days. >< |
| 01:37.42 | Nebucadnezar | That's what Mom's are for... |
| 01:37.44 | Roartindon | "My EMails not working.. HELP!" |
| 01:37.53 | Roartindon | My wireless has stopped... |
| 01:37.56 | Roartindon | etc. etc |
| 01:38.33 | Funkeh` | im sorry but if you don't contact your mom for 3 years you are a complete asshole, or your mom is |
| 01:38.45 | Tuykra | or both.. |
| 01:39.34 | Nebucadnezar | Is anyone familiar with the FuBar compat addons? They are showing as incompatible. |
| 01:39.51 | ckknight | FuBar compat? |
| 01:39.59 | ckknight | oh, don't use that, that's real old. |
| 01:40.11 | ckknight | that's for FuBar 1.2 compat |
| 01:40.12 | Nebucadnezar | FuBar Compat v1.0 and FuBar-Compat-1.2 |
| 01:40.15 | ckknight | which I no longer support |
| 01:40.19 | Roartindon | Oh, shouldn't need those anymoer |
| 01:40.20 | NightHawkTheSane | should probably be tagged and moved out of trunk |
| 01:40.27 | Roartindon | Any moderately interesting FuBar plugin was upgraded months ago |
| 01:40.49 | Nebucadnezar | Ok. Will disable those and delete then. |
| 01:40.52 | ckknight | NightHawkTheSane: it is out of trunk |
| 01:41.13 | ckknight | Nebucadnezar: where are you seeing this? |
| 01:41.14 | Nebucadnezar | AddOns in WoW. |
| 01:41.14 | NightHawkTheSane | ckknight: well, okay then. |
| 01:41.17 | ckknight | oh |
| 01:41.27 | ckknight | that's like over 6 months old, I think |
| 01:41.32 | Nebucadnezar | I have a few FuBar addons showing imcompatible. |
| 01:41.37 | Roartindon | Nebucadnezar: Which ones? |
| 01:41.57 | Nebucadnezar | AggroFU, AtlasFu2, AssistFu |
| 01:43.08 | Nebucadnezar | I am trying to get away with only use addons that have a Fu piece so I can have icons. |
| 01:43.28 | Nebucadnezar | Don't want to be messing with cli when playing, etc... |
| 01:43.30 | Roartindon | Nebucadnezar: I suspect whatever AssistFu used to do, it can't be done anymore.. I'm just guessing |
| 01:43.31 | hyperChipmunk | O_o |
| 01:43.37 | Nebucadnezar | lol |
| 01:43.37 | Roartindon | because AssistByName() has been removed. |
| 01:43.55 | Nebucadnezar | Ok. That one gets killed with the compat addons. |
| 01:44.08 | hyperChipmunk | so you want a complete Fu-I is what you're saying? |
| 01:44.11 | Roartindon | AtlasFu2.... not sure if you need it? Probably should grab Cartographer instead :) |
| 01:44.46 | Nebucadnezar | Does Cartographer have all the instances? I have it installed as well. |
| 01:44.55 | hyperChipmunk | yes |
| 01:45.10 | Nebucadnezar | Cool. One less thing to install. Still trying to learn everything I installed today |
| 01:45.44 | ckknight | Nebucadnezar: I'm the author of Cart, btw |
| 01:45.45 | Diao | atlasfu2? o_O |
| 01:46.04 | Nebucadnezar | See that. I am like almost all "CK'ed" out in my UI.... |
| 01:46.14 | ckknight | I'll conquer the entire UI yet |
| 01:46.19 | Nebucadnezar | Didn't even know it either.... |
| 01:46.20 | Nebucadnezar | lol |
| 01:47.18 | Nebucadnezar | Now if I could just get the guy that does Whisper Enhanced to fix it, I'd be a REALLY happy camper |
| 01:48.26 | Nebucadnezar | There's one for you to tackle CK... |
| 01:48.27 | ckknight | I use Prat |
| 01:48.30 | ckknight | no way |
| 01:48.46 | ckknight | I only do stuff that I see a need for and would use myself |
| 01:48.47 | Nebucadnezar | I haven't figured that one out yet. I installed it but haven't played with it yet. |
| 01:48.58 | Chompers | clone WIM, only better |
| 01:49.37 | *** join/#wowace teh_squid (n=Alex@dsl-220-235-117-160.sa.westnet.com.au) |
| 01:50.14 | Tuykra | i really need to redo my UI |
| 01:50.20 | Nebucadnezar | Oooooh! Niagara is pretty.... |
| 01:50.51 | Diao | lol |
| 01:51.27 | kenlyric | should I be able to find framelib? |
| 01:51.55 | Nebucadnezar | Wow. With that one addon, I can now get rid of the plethora of icons. Schweeeeet! |
| 01:54.33 | kenlyric | KotJ wants framelib, but I can't find it. |
| 01:55.10 | NightHawkTheSane | kenlyric: i saw a commit for that a while ago |
| 01:55.37 | sylvanaar | it'd be neat if someone made a whobot - which just ran who's for the people in the channels you choose (im thinking LFG is a good example of where its useful) |
| 01:57.28 | kenlyric | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:57.33 | kenlyric | that's the update |
| 01:58.02 | Industrial | FrameLib? |
| 01:58.18 | NightHawkTheSane | kenlyric: http://svn.wowace.com/wowace/trunk/FrameLib/ ? |
| 01:58.51 | kenlyric | it's on the trunk, how is it not on files? |
| 01:58.56 | kenlyric | voodoo? |
| 01:59.33 | NightHawkTheSane | if you look closely.. you'll see there's no .toc |
| 01:59.43 | kenlyric | that's bad, mmmkay. |
| 01:59.43 | NightHawkTheSane | no toc = not parsed by files script |
| 02:00.14 | kenlyric | yay! removing compostlib broke corkfu. |
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| 02:01.38 | NimbleRabit | So does anyone know if this 3% top teams getting Duelist etc. from arena is based on ALL teams in your bracket, or is it only teams above 1500 or what? |
| 02:03.03 | kenlyric | oh nifty, compostlib isn't in files anymore either. |
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| 02:06.43 | Funkeh` | so fix corkfu |
| 02:07.02 | kenlyric | corkfu isn't broken. |
| 02:07.08 | kenlyric | the library it was using has been removed. |
| 02:07.14 | Funkeh` | it shouldn't be using compost |
| 02:07.35 | Funkeh` | yes i removed it, the author has had since the release of 2.0 to change it |
| 02:08.14 | kenlyric | guess the author must have missed the warning that it was going away. |
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| 02:08.31 | kenlyric | naughty author. bad tekkub |
| 02:11.38 | nekoh | Antiarc: Attumen.lua local phaseThree needs to be set to the correct trigger-msg |
| 02:12.33 | Tekkub | or the author really isnt concerned with the TOC and externals when the mod is still beta :P |
| 02:12.48 | kenlyric | guess I'm dumb. I can't find the post that says compostlib is going away. |
| 02:12.57 | Gngsk | beta4life |
| 02:13.08 | Gngsk | <3 corkfu though, glad my main doesn't depend on it! |
| 02:14.17 | kenlyric | I don't think anybody's main depends on it :) |
| 02:14.27 | Industrial | Tekkub: or you are just really.. REALLY lazy |
| 02:14.34 | Industrial | :3 |
| 02:14.41 | Gngsk | I wouldn't play my priest, pally or mage without it! |
| 02:15.49 | kenlyric | well, you will now! :) |
| 02:16.01 | Gngsk | actually, I won't |
| 02:16.06 | kenlyric | bastard |
| 02:16.07 | nekoh | Antiarc: also on Kaelthas.lua: i think unregistertranslation should be called after weaponNames are set |
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| 02:18.22 | Diao | what's corkfu |
| 02:18.40 | Gngsk | put a cork in it! |
| 02:19.14 | kenlyric | it used to show missing self/party/raid buffs. |
| 02:19.18 | CIA-22 | 03funkydude * r39021 10BigWigs/ (11 files in 5 dirs): BigWigs: some tweaks to avoid any possible problems |
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| 02:23.42 | CIA-22 | 03darchon * r39022 10!!!StandaloneLibraries/ (TagCompiler-1.0/placeholder.txt Threat-1.0/placeholder.txt): !!!StandaloneLibraries: add placeholder.txt |
| 02:26.42 | Kemayo | rubik: Regarding the python script, there's a forum thread, or you can get it on google code: http://code.google.com/p/wowacepy |
| 02:27.58 | rubik | Kemayo: found it earlier (the thread), thx! :P |
| 02:28.07 | rubik | will put it to good use startingt this weekend |
| 02:29.16 | CIA-22 | 03funkydude * r39023 10CompostLib/: bring it back since too many addons still use it |
| 02:29.18 | Kemayo | I firmly believe in veeeeeeery late replies. |
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| 02:30.20 | rubik | the custom timer bars in bw.. they're under "/bw extras custombars local <sec> <name>"? |
| 02:30.29 | rubik | or is there a quicker way to start one? |
| 02:31.16 | CIA-22 | 03cryect * r39024 10GraphLib/Graph-1.0/Graph-1.0.lua: GraphLib - Catches potential invalid data passed to realtime graphs |
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| 02:31.27 | Funkeh` | yes /bwlcb sec name |
| 02:31.33 | Funkeh` | for local |
| 02:31.41 | Funkeh` | and /bwcb sec name for global |
| 02:32.02 | rubik | and global just means that all raid members with bw will see it? |
| 02:33.04 | Funkeh` | yes |
| 02:36.04 | CIA-22 | 03funkydude * r39025 10!!!StandaloneLibraries/ (CompostLib/ CompostLib/placeholder.txt filelist.wau): !!!StandaloneLibraries: re-add compost |
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| 02:38.10 | CIA-22 | 03funkydude * r39026 10CompostLib/Lib/: CompostLib: remove 1.0 lib |
| 02:43.26 | kenlyric | hyperChipmunk: ping? |
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| 02:44.54 | grennon | Magtheridon has a death touch, nice |
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| 02:45.12 | grennon | earthquakes melee in front of him sometimes and then uses a cleave that one shots |
| 02:45.16 | kenlyric | hyperChipmunk: when you see this, http://ace.pastey.net/56289 ... every time I take soemthing or send something. |
| 02:45.20 | grennon | poor encounter design |
| 02:46.21 | Aenslaed | grennon: thats new |
| 02:46.28 | Aenslaed | didn't used to do that till this patch |
| 02:46.54 | hyperChipmunk | k |
| 02:46.55 | hyperChipmunk | thanks |
| 02:47.26 | grennon | the cleave is a normal attack |
| 02:47.39 | hyperChipmunk | kenlyric: that's bigzero's code =P |
| 02:47.56 | grennon | its just the timing of it if it coincides with an earthquake that knocks melee in front is the death touch |
| 02:48.37 | kenlyric | it still works just fine. |
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| 02:51.58 | Tuykra_ | storms + wireless don't mix |
| 02:52.00 | Kinkx | So many fights that melee just aren't good for these days, it's like Blizzard is anti-melee |
| 02:53.14 | Kinkx | On Kael'thas you can go afk 3-4 min when killing two of the npc's if you're melee, kind of boring |
| 02:53.20 | kenlyric | melee hit from behind now. |
| 02:53.53 | CIA-22 | 03cryect * r39027 10Recount/ (6 files): |
| 02:53.53 | CIA-22 | Recount - A few modes on the main window can now spawn a realtime graph of the |
| 02:53.53 | CIA-22 | relevant data by ctrl clicking on a name. Needs lots of adjustments (rectangular |
| 02:53.54 | CIA-22 | filters for example are awful for filtering such sparse data) |
| 02:54.11 | hyperChipmunk | Antiarc: Omen\Libs\Threat-1.0\ClassModules\Paladin.lua:19: Cannot find a library instance of Babble-SpellTree-2.2. |
| 02:54.14 | hyperChipmunk | BigWigs-2.0 r36182\Libs\AceLibrary\AceLibrary.lua:470: in function `AceLibrary' |
| 02:54.17 | hyperChipmunk | Omen\Libs\Threat-1.0\ClassModules\Paladin.lua:19: in main chunk |
| 02:54.25 | hyperChipmunk | it's not externed |
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| 02:57.06 | CIA-22 | 03cryect * r39028 10Recount/GUI_Detail.lua: Recount - Fixes an error with death details if no data |
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| 03:02.55 | kaiden | this is interesting, you guys know the bonestrippers in bonewastes of terokkar, and the big mount they are on with trachela, and then they have some bonestrippers that fly overhead that have no nameplates and can't be targetted |
| 03:03.04 | kaiden | one of those is attacking my friend and i and we can't get awya from it lol |
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| 03:06.25 | CIA-22 | 03hyperactiveChipmunk * r39029 10Omen/ (Libs/ Omen.toc): |
| 03:06.25 | CIA-22 | Omen: |
| 03:06.25 | CIA-22 | - Added Babble-SpellTree to .toc and externals |
| 03:06.50 | Tuykra_ | anyone know either an addon, or the script to increase view distance? |
| 03:07.21 | Funkeh` | hyperChipmunk: cooking up something? |
| 03:07.32 | hyperChipmunk | no |
| 03:07.36 | hyperChipmunk | the pally module uses it |
| 03:07.44 | Funkeh` | oh |
| 03:07.52 | hyperChipmunk | and my pally g/f got an error =P |
| 03:08.31 | Aenslaed | Tuikku: view distance? max camera distance? |
| 03:09.08 | Tuykra_ | yeh |
| 03:09.30 | Tuykra_ | i remember i used to have an addon that increased it, but can't remember what it was a all |
| 03:09.31 | Funkeh` | should it not be added to threatlib then hyperChipmunk |
| 03:09.32 | Aenslaed | its in your config.wtf in the wtf folder |
| 03:09.32 | Tuykra_ | at all* |
| 03:09.37 | hyperChipmunk | oops |
| 03:09.40 | Tuykra_ | ah thanks |
| 03:09.41 | hyperChipmunk | yea you're right |
| 03:09.42 | Aenslaed | sec, another al'ar attempt |
| 03:09.48 | Tuykra_ | GL |
| 03:10.22 | CIA-22 | 03hyperactiveChipmunk * r39030 10Omen/ (Libs/ Omen.toc): |
| 03:10.22 | CIA-22 | Omen: |
| 03:10.23 | CIA-22 | - Revert last commit |
| 03:12.05 | CIA-22 | 03hyperactiveChipmunk * r39031 10Threat-1.0/ (Libs/ Threat-1.0.toc): |
| 03:12.05 | CIA-22 | Threat-1.0: |
| 03:12.05 | CIA-22 | - Babble-SpellTree added to .toc and externals |
| 03:12.39 | ulic | going in circles? |
| 03:12.48 | hyperChipmunk | shup |
| 03:14.48 | CIA-22 | 03helium * r39032 10Babble-2.2/Babble-Spell-2.2/Babble-Spell-2.2.lua: |
| 03:14.48 | CIA-22 | Babble-2.2: |
| 03:14.48 | CIA-22 | - zhTW, updated Spell |
| 03:16.08 | binder | how do you move the omen window? |
| 03:16.46 | Keias | unpin it? |
| 03:16.54 | binder | and then? |
| 03:16.57 | binder | it won't move for me |
| 03:16.58 | Funkeh` | move your mouse over it, click, then move your mouse |
| 03:17.19 | Funkeh` | make sure you don't have lock ticked in the menu |
| 03:17.25 | binder | nope |
| 03:18.10 | binder | oh crashed |
| 03:18.29 | rubik | how to get rid of a /bwcb bar? heh |
| 03:19.09 | Funkeh` | <PROTECTED> |
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| 03:21.43 | [FH]Birdemani | could you have omen not pop up upon entering an arena? |
| 03:21.52 | [FH]Birdemani | by default if its already toggled off |
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| 03:22.10 | Funkeh` | im sure its doable |
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| 03:28.05 | jwwpua | what is it that's loading after the loading bar is at 100%? it sits there for 5-10 seconds sometimes (upon inital load) |
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| 03:32.28 | Funkeh` | later all |
| 03:35.41 | Diao | o_O |
| 03:35.44 | Diao | i thought compostlib was removed |
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| 03:39.04 | Boubouille | http://www.mmo-champion.com/images/news/2007/june/stats_azzinoth.jpg |
| 03:39.56 | Diao | hm |
| 03:39.59 | Diao | error with recount as i login Cryect |
| 03:40.00 | NightHawkTheSane | intersting |
| 03:40.15 | hyperChipmunk | wtf war, rog |
| 03:40.21 | hyperChipmunk | those are survival hunter weapons |
| 03:40.39 | hyperChipmunk | that's EXACTLY how survival hunter stats should look |
| 03:40.54 | Diao | fury warrior gear :> |
| 03:41.18 | hyperChipmunk | all the survival hunter stuff is leather |
| 03:41.21 | Boubouille | http://www.mmo-champion.com/images/news/2007/june/arena2_warrior.jpg also |
| 03:41.24 | hyperChipmunk | now there's weapons |
| 03:41.29 | Boubouille | but it's probably been posted already |
| 03:41.33 | hyperChipmunk | and they're class restricted |
| 03:42.31 | hyperChipmunk | oh god black riftstalker is gonna be ugly |
| 03:43.23 | hyperChipmunk | isn't illadin a demon HUNTER? |
| 03:43.32 | hyperChipmunk | his weapons should be hunter only =P |
| 03:43.39 | art3mis | he's THE demon hunter |
| 03:43.53 | Diao | but |
| 03:43.58 | Diao | demonhunters aren't hunters |
| 03:44.02 | Diao | they don't have pets, they don't use range :P |
| 03:44.14 | hyperChipmunk | neither do survival hunters! |
| 03:44.20 | hyperChipmunk | hohoho |
| 03:44.27 | NightHawkTheSane | i think the term hunter is used figuratively. |
| 03:44.35 | hyperChipmunk | shup |
| 03:44.39 | NightHawkTheSane | what i mean to say is "not a hunter weapon, suck it!"" |
| 03:44.41 | hyperChipmunk | those are survival hunter weapons >8\ |
| 03:45.07 | NightHawkTheSane | although, hunters really could use some legendary, they've gotten kinda shafted |
| 03:45.34 | hyperChipmunk | survival hunters could use some anything >8( |
| 03:47.04 | Wobwork | Talent, skill, etc =) |
| 03:47.25 | NightHawkTheSane | a free respec into a less sucky spec? |
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| 03:48.22 | hyperChipmunk | >8\ |
| 03:48.38 | art3mis | id like a legendary priest staff that doesnt blow |
| 03:48.54 | art3mis | err shadow priest |
| 03:49.29 | NightHawkTheSane | honestly, legendaries were just a stupid idea from the start. |
| 03:49.29 | hyperChipmunk | if they give a hunter legendary, it'll be a sissy bow |
| 03:49.58 | art3mis | yeah but they look neat |
| 03:50.07 | art3mis | and besides lore says they exist |
| 03:50.14 | art3mis | so they must be attainable |
| 03:50.18 | NightHawkTheSane | so? lots of things exist that characters can't get or do. |
| 03:51.35 | NightHawkTheSane | they don't need to be at all attainable, that's an arbitrary decision |
| 03:51.35 | Boubouille | hmmmmm, will I exploit the guys from wowace too ? yeah, probably |
| 03:51.35 | Boubouille | http://www.mmo-champion.com/index.php?topic=279.0 |
| 03:51.36 | art3mis | although it would make it so much more awesome if you could loot them and they were limited to 1 per server |
| 03:51.36 | Boubouille | Go go test the IDs, make Boubouille happy :/ |
| 03:51.36 | art3mis | own a legendary and yer perm pvp flagged |
| 03:51.36 | NightHawkTheSane | art3mis: that could, potentially, be a step up from the current implementation. |
| 03:52.11 | NightHawkTheSane | course, then you have the issue of server transfers >.> |
| 03:52.27 | art3mis | not really |
| 03:52.41 | art3mis | it strips the legendaries on transfer and puts them back in the loot tables |
| 03:53.41 | NightHawkTheSane | art3mis: heh, yeah, that won't generate ANY complaints. "wah wah i earned this legendary, and you're taking it away just because i want to change servers using a system YOU implemented? wah wah wah i'm a spoiled brat." |
| 03:53.59 | art3mis | heh |
| 03:54.18 | NightHawkTheSane | (i have a low opinion of the unwashed masses, if it's not readily apparent :P) |
| 03:54.22 | art3mis | Blizzard: wah wah don't transfer no-ones forcing you, life sucks get a helmet |
| 03:54.32 | art3mis | heh |
| 03:54.38 | art3mis | man i'd make a great gm |
| 03:54.45 | NightHawkTheSane | art3mis: totally. :D |
| 03:54.52 | art3mis | this instance is bugged!! "uh huh and?" |
| 03:55.27 | art3mis | reset it for us! "wait 4 days and redo it, go read a book or something, perhaps a book entitled How to not being a whiny trust fund spoiled piece of crap |
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| 03:56.15 | art3mis | Thanks for contacting Customer Service, if you have any comments please email us at eat@mycrap.blizzard.com |
| 03:56.21 | hyperChipmunk | Antiarc: what's this omghugeliekxbox threat bar? |
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| 03:57.12 | art3mis | rip things in haaaaaaaaalllllllllfffffff |
| 03:57.16 | art3mis | break stuff in two! |
| 03:58.37 | ulic | the bars are all sizeable now |
| 04:00.36 | NightHawkTheSane | hmm. i'm kind of bored. |
| 04:00.46 | art3mis | you could go grief noobs |
| 04:00.51 | art3mis | thats always fun |
| 04:01.15 | NightHawkTheSane | Yeah, I stopped being a child a long time ago, no thanks. |
| 04:01.23 | kenlyric | so, you're one of those fuckers? |
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| 04:01.29 | Keias | It's never too late to be immature. |
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| 04:02.05 | kenlyric | there's a special place in hell reserved for people like that, I'm pretty sure that's the fifth circle |
| 04:02.27 | NightHawkTheSane | kenlyric: it's the level of hell reserved for child molesters and people who talk in the theatre. |
| 04:02.35 | kenlyric | right. |
| 04:02.50 | kenlyric | it's a special hell :) |
| 04:02.54 | NightHawkTheSane | :D |
| 04:03.09 | kenlyric | <3 the good shepherd. |
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| 04:06.48 | Peoii | ugh |
| 04:06.54 | Peoii | I have got to figure out this FPS issue. |
| 04:08.56 | Antiarc | Evening folks |
| 04:09.14 | Peoii | Heya Antiarc. |
| 04:09.34 | Peoii | Actually, just one of the people I was looking for. Any idea why I can't set my own-character texture in Omen? |
| 04:09.49 | Peoii | I don't see an option for it, and my bar texture is blank. |
| 04:10.22 | Antiarc | Hm. You should be able to right click your bar and set it from there. |
| 04:10.35 | Antiarc | (You can right-click and set properties on any bar you like) |
| 04:10.49 | Peoii | ahh, I was looking in the fubar dewdrop. |
| 04:10.55 | Peoii | Cool, thanks. |
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| 04:19.41 | hyperChipmunk | who plays a rogue here? |
| 04:19.48 | hyperChipmunk | i need a pickpocket macro example |
| 04:19.50 | anenigma | I used to, does that count? |
| 04:20.17 | anenigma | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:20.39 | anenigma | what do you want the macro to do? |
| 04:21.06 | hyperChipmunk | just the auto-pickpocket with a skill |
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| 04:21.16 | hyperChipmunk | kergoth: ping |
| 04:21.24 | hyperChipmunk | gimme your pickpocket macro |
| 04:21.35 | aen` | u mean like pickpocket then cheap shot? |
| 04:21.39 | NightHawkTheSane | Should be just "/cast Pick Pocket; /stopcasting; /cast Ambush" (or whatever skill you want) |
| 04:21.39 | aen` | or pickpocket then ambush? |
| 04:21.40 | hyperChipmunk | yea |
| 04:21.48 | aen` | yep |
| 04:21.51 | aen` | what nighthawk said |
| 04:21.53 | anenigma | do you want it to auto-loot as well? |
| 04:22.24 | hyperChipmunk | please |
| 04:22.38 | anenigma | i think you have to toggle the auto-loot option in that case |
| 04:23.08 | NightHawkTheSane | it should auto loot if you have that enabled already, yeah? |
| 04:23.23 | anenigma | oh, yeah |
| 04:23.27 | anenigma | i meant if it wasn't enabled |
| 04:23.29 | NightHawkTheSane | obviously, if you don't have auto-loot enabled, you'd probably have to do some chicanery with toggling that setting |
| 04:23.46 | anenigma | i saw one rogue with a macro that toggled auto-loot on, pick pocketed, and switched auto-loot off |
| 04:23.51 | ulic | there is a nifty ace mod named Cutup, that will toggle Auto-loot on and off, when you pickpocket |
| 04:24.07 | pastamancer | IIRC the toggling it back off happens before the loot window opens and leaves you without your ill-gotten goods |
| 04:24.39 | ulic | I use cutup with a macro like that, works great |
| 04:25.06 | pastamancer | I just leave autoloot on for all of my characters so I don't get confused |
| 04:25.59 | NightHawkTheSane | pastamancer: agreed, i dont really see much point in having it off, unless you regularly do ml for raids, but *shrug* |
| 04:26.13 | pastamancer | remember to shift-click :p |
| 04:26.24 | NightHawkTheSane | yeah :P |
| 04:31.15 | NightHawkTheSane | "He had his license to practice medicine revoked, in California. Do you know how -bad- you have to be for -California- to shut you down?" lol |
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| 04:35.32 | sylvanaar | someone grab this http://svn.wowace.com/wowace/branches/Prat/sylvanaar/teststuff/download-wau.htm |
| 04:35.58 | sylvanaar | so i can see how well it actually works |
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| 04:41.44 | CIA-22 | 03sylvanaar 07sylvanaar * r39033 10Prat/teststuff/ (8 files in 2 dirs): multithread version |
| 04:43.02 | Flexom | worked nicely, no errors for me:) though no needed updates atm:p |
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| 04:48.26 | kaiden | sylvanaar is back! |
| 04:48.34 | kaiden | he didn't forsake us! |
| 04:48.34 | kaiden | :P |
| 04:48.50 | Xuerian | sylvanaar: Multi-threaded? o.0 |
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| 05:04.30 | CIA-22 | 03sylvanaar 07sylvanaar * r39034 10Prat/teststuff/ (8 files in 2 dirs): another go at passing the UAC |
| 05:06.03 | sylvanaar | god UAC is gay |
| 05:07.26 | NightHawkTheSane | UAC? |
| 05:08.03 | NightHawkTheSane | ah, n/m, google knows |
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| 05:13.16 | Peoii | hrm, any suggestions for an addon to track buffs? I really only care about AI, but I wanna know who doesn't have it, and preferably, have a 1button click option to buff those who do need it. |
| 05:14.31 | hyperChipmunk | sounds like you want CorkFu |
| 05:15.12 | Peoii | cool, I'll give it a shot. |
| 05:16.27 | art3mis | bah suse 10.2 irritates me |
| 05:16.36 | art3mis | stupid xorg 7.1 and its crap video driver suppor |
| 05:16.37 | art3mis | t |
| 05:17.20 | art3mis | guess ill format and install something else this weekend |
| 05:17.27 | art3mis | cuz installing is fun! |
| 05:17.34 | Blime | fedora 7 is out, and smooooth |
| 05:17.46 | Kaydeethree | been using it for a week or so |
| 05:18.07 | cs-cam | art: what video card do you use? if you use linux stick with nvidia |
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| 05:21.23 | art3mis | gf 7100gs pci-e 256mb ddr400 |
| 05:21.59 | art3mis | i LOVE everythig about suse 10.2 except its shitty reliance on xorg and xgl |
| 05:22.25 | art3mis | hell i loaded up wow with crossover on a p4-3g with 512mb and a x300 raedon |
| 05:22.42 | art3mis | and it ran full screen smoothly, actually better than it did on my win2k box |
| 05:23.04 | art3mis | fedora is new redhat right? |
| 05:23.14 | Blime | essentially |
| 05:23.18 | Kaydeethree | if by new you mean for the past few years, yah |
| 05:23.20 | cs-cam | fedora is massively bloated |
| 05:23.29 | Blime | <3 suse |
| 05:23.40 | art3mis | hehe yeah its just got some gaming drawbacks |
| 05:23.57 | art3mis | linux-xp is nice except for that whole only russian and massively outdated for hardware ;P |
| 05:24.13 | art3mis | the 2006 version installed nice on my tester dell at work though |
| 05:24.21 | cs-cam | wow runs fine in normal wine |
| 05:24.30 | Kaydeethree | meh, I've never played wow on windows using this hardware. I blame my 5200fx more than anything else, though |
| 05:24.36 | art3mis | not for me it doesnt |
| 05:24.37 | Kaydeethree | cs- ya, that's all I've ever used |
| 05:24.44 | art3mis | its my distro |
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| 05:24.56 | art3mis | xorg+xgl has limited support for 3d accel |
| 05:25.08 | cs-cam | xgl is eyecandy crap imo |
| 05:25.13 | art3mis | funny enough xorg 6.9 supported my x300 fine and dandy |
| 05:25.32 | art3mis | but for some reason it doesnt wanna play nice with my 7100gs |
| 05:25.39 | art3mis | err 7.1 that is |
| 05:25.44 | art3mis | which kind of confuses me |
| 05:25.48 | Nebucadnezar | Looking on WoWace Wiki and trying to understand why I would want to use Prat over Whisper Enchanced. Does Prat actually allow you to create new tabs for the channels or is it more of just a chat enhancer for Blizzards chat? |
| 05:25.48 | cs-cam | nvidia have their own drivers, work great with all versions of xorg |
| 05:25.52 | Kaydeethree | meh, I disabled aiglx. same reason I use xfce over gnome... wow needs processor cycles, not pretty desktop graphics |
| 05:26.03 | art3mis | heh |
| 05:26.09 | art3mis | what distro you guys running? |
| 05:26.15 | Kaydeethree | I'm using fedora 7 |
| 05:26.18 | cs-cam | gentoo with fvwm as window manager |
| 05:26.25 | art3mis | wow yer hardcore ;P |
| 05:26.35 | cs-cam | lol |
| 05:26.36 | Fin | fvwm 1 or 2? |
| 05:26.37 | cs-cam | not that much |
| 05:26.41 | art3mis | when i ran slack i used icewm ;P |
| 05:26.44 | cs-cam | fvwm2 |
| 05:26.45 | CIA-22 | 03sylvanaar 07sylvanaar * r39035 10Prat/teststuff/ (8 files in 2 dirs): shrug |
| 05:26.49 | art3mis | and then blackbox |
| 05:26.58 | Fin | good |
| 05:26.58 | art3mis | which funny enough was my replacement shell on my 2k box |
| 05:27.01 | Fin | fvwm 1 is a pile of shit |
| 05:27.05 | cs-cam | blackbox is ok, i don't like blackbox3 though |
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| 05:27.14 | art3mis | nah they started doing too much with it |
| 05:27.23 | art3mis | bb was wicked for its tiny footprint and power |
| 05:27.36 | art3mis | thats one of teh reasons i liked icewm |
| 05:27.46 | kergoth | none of the windows shell replacements can hold a candle to the linux wm's nowadays. unfortunately, i wish they did |
| 05:27.47 | art3mis | gave a basic menu and a a vm manager |
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| 05:27.57 | art3mis | bblite can |
| 05:28.01 | kergoth | most of them remind me of using linux in the mid to late 90s |
| 05:28.09 | art3mis | bblite is sexy to me |
| 05:28.09 | cs-cam | i'm running bblite on my lappy.it's pretty decent |
| 05:28.11 | art3mis | err bblean |
| 05:28.18 | Fin | its virtual desktop manager spoiled me |
| 05:28.30 | art3mis | heh im kind of spoiled by the cube thing |
| 05:28.36 | cs-cam | pffft lol |
| 05:28.36 | Fin | it's -- ahem -- *virtually* impossible to find one with the same functionality under win32 |
| 05:28.37 | art3mis | to me thats just so wicked |
| 05:28.54 | art3mis | bbleans got a nice one ;P |
| 05:28.58 | hyperChipmunk | I used several *box for awhile, stuck upon e17 a few years ago and haven't gone back |
| 05:29.08 | Fin | I did find one actually, I even bought it (!) |
| 05:29.13 | kergoth | i love the compose thingy in compiz. so handy |
| 05:29.14 | art3mis | GASP! |
| 05:29.14 | Fin | http://www.astonshell.com/ |
| 05:29.24 | Fin | it's one of three bits of software I'll pay for :) |
| 05:29.26 | art3mis | oh THAT thing |
| 05:29.32 | Fin | not the shell, just the virtual desktop manager |
| 05:29.34 | art3mis | that thing annoyed the fuck out of me |
| 05:29.37 | kergoth | e17 is pretty nice, the enlightenment foundation libs are cool |
| 05:29.39 | Fin | AltDesk |
| 05:29.51 | art3mis | E was awesome back in the day |
| 05:29.59 | art3mis | so pretty....so bloated |
| 05:30.02 | kergoth | i use the compose thing every couple minutes with regularity, to monitor compiles and shit without switching to all the desktops they're running on |
| 05:30.02 | Fin | did it ever get finished? |
| 05:30.08 | kergoth | can get a status update on my machine at a glance |
| 05:30.16 | art3mis | yeah |
| 05:30.16 | hyperChipmunk | e17 is anything but bloated |
| 05:30.19 | Fin | s/finisehd/usable/ |
| 05:30.27 | art3mis | so |
| 05:30.35 | art3mis | quick poll since im gonna redo my desk tomorrow |
| 05:30.36 | KarlThePagan | hmmm... my Omen bar is transparent :/ |
| 05:30.37 | hyperChipmunk | i use it |
| 05:30.40 | art3mis | knowing that i lurv suse |
| 05:30.43 | Fin | oh, cool |
| 05:30.45 | hyperChipmunk | i've used it for a long time |
| 05:30.47 | art3mis | what should i try next? |
| 05:30.52 | hyperChipmunk | i <3 it |
| 05:30.53 | kergoth | what i like about e17 is what i like about all of raster's projects. they end up -pretty- as well as functional. he's an artist as well as a coder |
| 05:31.03 | hyperChipmunk | can't compute without it anymore |
| 05:31.30 | art3mis | i wish fbsd wasnt sooo... |
| 05:31.34 | art3mis | time consuming |
| 05:31.49 | Fin | yeah, well, that was kind of the whole point |
| 05:31.52 | art3mis | i ran fbsd on my laptop for a good 8 years |
| 05:32.14 | art3mis | but now with this machine im ebtting 90% of the hardware isnt supported out of box without hacks |
| 05:32.22 | Fin | personally I'd always choose it over linux |
| 05:32.23 | kergoth | i still have an ip-less firewall machine running openbsd somewhere. nice security in a device nobody can directly attack |
| 05:32.30 | Fin | netbsd more like |
| 05:32.33 | art3mis | although its not like a dualcore with 2gb of mem and sata drives would make the kernel compiles take long |
| 05:32.52 | art3mis | heh used to hang out with theo |
| 05:32.56 | art3mis | in calgary |
| 05:32.59 | art3mis | he's a wierdo |
| 05:33.10 | art3mis | and i dont mean that in a nerd autistic wierdo way |
| 05:33.21 | art3mis | i mean in a creepy wierdo fashion |
| 05:33.32 | art3mis | so |
| 05:33.34 | Fin | installing by gunzipping tarballs... weird |
| 05:33.36 | art3mis | you still havent answered |
| 05:33.37 | Peoii | hrm... |
| 05:33.46 | Fin | who hasn't answered what? |
| 05:33.54 | Peoii | ok, So BigBrother requires ParserLib, which is no longer a part of StandAlone? |
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| 05:34.09 | art3mis | iof all the linux flavours what should i try next, my reqs are no xorg, nice package manager and gnome |
| 05:34.18 | art3mis | cuz im just comfy in gnome ;P |
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| 05:34.19 | hyperChipmunk | i think there was recently a shift to a new parserlib |
| 05:34.36 | kergoth | hehe, i remember ftp'ing down slackware to floppies when i first started on linux.. |
| 05:34.36 | hyperChipmunk | no xorg? |
| 05:34.36 | kergoth | good ole days |
| 05:34.36 | Kaydeethree | no xorg? are any distros still using x11? |
| 05:34.38 | art3mis | yeah xorg 7.1 is the reason i have to leave suse |
| 05:34.41 | hyperChipmunk | probably debian =x |
| 05:34.47 | kergoth | debian's not using x11 |
| 05:34.50 | Fin | has anyone heard of Rimuhosting? |
| 05:34.54 | art3mis | xFree! |
| 05:34.59 | sylvanaar | someone grab this http://svn.wowace.com/wowace/branches/Prat/sylvanaar/teststuff/download-wau.htm anyone tried the multithread version? |
| 05:35.01 | hyperChipmunk | they might have upgraded to xfree86 by now |
| 05:35.10 | kergoth | i usually keep an eye on debian, since openembedded's distributions are generally debian based |
| 05:35.35 | art3mis | oh as a side note |
| 05:35.36 | kergoth | it always amused me when i ran newer stuff on my fucking pda than i ahd on my desktop running debian.. |
| 05:35.41 | Fin | guess not |
| 05:35.44 | hyperChipmunk | lol |
| 05:35.44 | art3mis | seamonkey is the bested x-email progeram ever |
| 05:35.45 | cs-cam | xfree86 isn't an upgrade |
| 05:35.48 | KarlThePagan | learn 2 unstable imo |
| 05:35.58 | hyperChipmunk | for debian it is |
| 05:36.11 | cs-cam | lol depends what release you're running |
| 05:36.16 | hyperChipmunk | that's like omgbleedingedgewhoa |
| 05:36.22 | KarlThePagan | yup |
| 05:36.23 | art3mis | oh my other big req |
| 05:36.26 | art3mis | x86_64 |
| 05:36.47 | kergoth | <3 debian distributionisms. they arent as fancy of ideas as gentoo's tools, but at least they work properly and arent half assed implementations (even if they're often hard as fuck to read perl) |
| 05:37.05 | sylvanaar | i just got a new cell phone that runs symbianOS, who knows anything about it? |
| 05:37.11 | Sole | nymbia: pingpong |
| 05:37.24 | art3mis | i know that the symbian is a floor mount vibrator fuck toy |
| 05:37.28 | art3mis | does that help at all? |
| 05:37.32 | Sole | LOL |
| 05:37.33 | kergoth | i know how to install shit on my symbian phone.. thats about it |
| 05:38.28 | sylvanaar | well, ok - i dont really even know what i can install |
| 05:39.09 | sylvanaar | it says v3.0 in the manual somewhere, but idk what that refers to |
| 05:40.06 | sylvanaar | since symbian is like v6 or something |
| 05:41.15 | omega_ | sylvanaar: the first thing you need to figure out, is what series you have (Series60, 80, 90 or 40) |
| 05:41.19 | omega_ | then what generation |
| 05:41.27 | omega_ | Series60 has 3 generations |
| 05:41.44 | omega_ | you can for instance install ScummVM |
| 05:41.48 | *** part/#wowace Kyah1 (n=Kyahx@74-33-20-171.dsl1.mnd.mn.frontiernet.net) |
| 05:41.49 | omega_ | and play old lucas arts games |
| 05:43.00 | nymbia | Sole: yo |
| 05:44.21 | Sole | nymbia: Im thinking of splitting Gladiator into modules (like Quartz). Since youre the only author I know which uses Glad. I just wanted your opinion on whether itd actually offer better performance. |
| 05:44.30 | Sole | If anything, it will definetly be neater code. |
| 05:44.48 | Sole | but I will most likely have to register the same event to a couple modules |
| 05:45.25 | nymbia | well, that alone wouldnt be much of a performance hit |
| 05:45.41 | Antiarc | Check out this hotness |
| 05:45.42 | Antiarc | http://i12.tinypic.com/6f6683n.jpg |
| 05:45.51 | nymbia | what would you split it into? like, the base, the comms, and the data? |
| 05:46.11 | Xuerian | Antiarc: Smexy. |
| 05:46.56 | hyperChipmunk | Antiarc: what hotness? the bar-isn't-omfg-all-the-way-across-the-screen hotness? |
| 05:47.08 | hyperChipmunk | cuz that's pretty hot |
| 05:47.26 | Cryect | does it need some viagra for you hyperChipmunk? |
| 05:47.26 | art3mis | geezus debian 4 is 3 dvds? |
| 05:47.32 | art3mis | good god |
| 05:47.46 | NightHawkTheSane | Antiarc: hawt. |
| 05:47.54 | Keias | omg Antiarc, l2Dorf :( |
| 05:48.07 | CIA-22 | 03nymbia * r39036 10Quartz/Target/Target.lua: |
| 05:48.07 | CIA-22 | Quartz_Target: |
| 05:48.07 | CIA-22 | - Print some debug code when events fire odd so we can track down the culprit. |
| 05:48.11 | Cryect | what happened to just downloading what you need for debian as you need it? |
| 05:48.17 | hyperChipmunk | wow, fenrir |
| 05:48.22 | hyperChipmunk | there's an original pet name |
| 05:48.45 | Sole | nymbia: team info box, guess enemy icons (+ handling), click handlers (and button creation), talent text, timers (proposed idea atm, no code written yet), comms |
| 05:48.57 | sylvanaar | omega_ ok...well its a nokia n75, fairly new. ill see what i can find |
| 05:49.09 | Antiarc | Shut up :P |
| 05:49.16 | Antiarc | This is my like 3-year-old level 28 hunter |
| 05:49.22 | hyperChipmunk | >78D |
| 05:49.25 | Antiarc | Who I've used mostly entirely for development and little else :P |
| 05:49.35 | sylvanaar | omega_ i assume its 60 |
| 05:49.36 | hyperChipmunk | that's no excuse for laziness |
| 05:50.03 | Sole | Antiarc: thats a way cool bar |
| 05:50.03 | Nebucadnezar | Is there some hidden trick to moving the 'armored man' when using DurabilityFu? |
| 05:50.15 | Sole | That bar alone makes Omen > KTM :P |
| 05:50.35 | Sole | the best thing is, Threat handling is a lib, so the rest of us can create some nifty stuff to go along with Omen if we think of something |
| 05:51.18 | omega_ | sylvanaar: most likely :) all N-series are series 60 |
| 05:51.23 | omega_ | and its most likely gen3 |
| 05:51.32 | Antiarc | Is there a way to set the z-ordering of two textures? |
| 05:51.50 | Sole | whats the z-ordering? |
| 05:51.56 | Sole | nymbia: so what ya think? |
| 05:52.06 | Antiarc | If you stack them on top of each other, determining which shows in front. |
| 05:52.07 | NightHawkTheSane | Sole: depth |
| 05:52.10 | Xuerian | sole: level/depth |
| 05:52.20 | nymbia | Sole: sounds good to me :D |
| 05:53.00 | omega_ | sylvanaar: I like scummvm for s60 :) I also enjoy putty sometimes |
| 05:53.00 | Antiarc | Oh, duh, setdrawlayer |
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| 05:53.00 | NightHawkTheSane | x axis is left-right, y axis is top-bottom, z axis is toward-away |
| 05:53.00 | hyperChipmunk | Antiarc: http://69.14.77.214/besttankevar.jpg |
| 05:53.00 | Xuerian | Hahaha. |
| 05:53.00 | hyperChipmunk | try pulling agro off me now, punk |
| 05:53.00 | Sole | nymbia: I was gonna do it anyway even if you said no :P |
| 05:53.11 | sylvanaar | oh there symbian os 9.1 |
| 05:53.25 | Antiarc | haha, yeah, fixed that one |
| 05:53.38 | nymbia | Sole: lol ;) |
| 05:54.03 | art3mis | so how awesome is gentoo's package manager compared to yast and ports? |
| 05:54.30 | Sole | hyperChipmunk: real creative character name there |
| 05:54.40 | Sole | not like the millions of other night elves out there |
| 05:55.28 | nymbia | burn |
| 05:55.29 | hyperChipmunk | actually, the name is unique; only such one in the armory |
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| 05:56.11 | nymbia | mine would be cept some jackass took it and made a damn human warlock |
| 05:56.14 | nymbia | seriously. |
| 05:56.24 | art3mis | heh |
| 05:56.40 | art3mis | i was gonna use rozalin but it was taken so i chose rozalyn |
| 05:56.47 | hyperChipmunk | and it's hand-crafted, not lifted from RL mythology |
| 05:56.55 | art3mis | funny thing is i keep running into rozalin (human mage) all the damn time |
| 05:57.13 | NightHawkTheSane | i lift my names straight out of books, typically. |
| 05:57.22 | art3mis | heh my original name is Shalandryl |
| 05:57.38 | art3mis | bastardized from the spellfire books ;P |
| 05:57.41 | NightHawkTheSane | course, I try to keep the books and/or names a bit on the obscure side |
| 05:57.46 | art3mis | art3mis is from the drizzt books ;P |
| 05:58.13 | art3mis | been using this nick since about 90/91 ? |
| 05:58.17 | art3mis | somewhere in there |
| 05:58.17 | hyperChipmunk | artemis is from RL mythology too |
| 05:58.25 | art3mis | it was Artemis Entreri for bbs's |
| 05:58.33 | art3mis | shortened it to artemis for irc |
| 05:59.06 | hyperChipmunk | Artemis is a Greek god |
| 05:59.06 | hyperChipmunk | -ess |
| 05:59.07 | art3mis | and then to art3mis cuz i got sick of warring with a bot over it |
| 05:59.07 | NightHawkTheSane | i imagine the author of the book probably realized he was taking it from greek mythos |
| 05:59.07 | art3mis | yeah moon fertility the hunt |
| 06:01.08 | hyperChipmunk | http://69.14.77.214/omenpetthreat.png |
| 06:01.10 | hyperChipmunk | awesome |
| 06:01.10 | Diao | did someone break an aceevent |
| 06:01.24 | Diao | i'm getting errors with violation and recount |
| 06:01.37 | Diao | attempt to call method 'RegisterInfoType' |
| 06:01.49 | hyperChipmunk | I have negative one-point-dollarsight-percent threat on my pet |
| 06:02.00 | hyperChipmunk | s/sight/sign/ |
| 06:02.00 | kergoth | hyperChipmunk, sweet |
| 06:03.15 | NightHawkTheSane | hyperChipmunk: oh yeah, well i've got purple threat on your mom! |
| 06:03.43 | hyperChipmunk | yes, but do you have teh $$$? |
| 06:04.04 | NightHawkTheSane | no, you're mom's a cheap bitch. :P |
| 06:04.13 | ZealotOnAStick | so, is the Omen gui still all wonky? |
| 06:04.33 | aen` | anyone use a logitech ultraX keyboard? |
| 06:04.43 | hyperChipmunk | ZealotOnAStick: did you not see that last screenshot? =x |
| 06:04.58 | ZealotOnAStick | in a word, no. |
| 06:05.26 | hyperChipmunk | http://69.14.77.214/omenpetthreat.png the target is my pet >8P |
| 06:05.32 | ZealotOnAStick | that'd be a yes, then. |
| 06:06.11 | kergoth | aen`, i do, have for years, just bought another 5 pack :P |
| 06:06.30 | kergoth | hyperChipmunk, man, i want readyspells to support hunters |
| 06:06.31 | NightHawkTheSane | i hate those keys |
| 06:06.43 | hyperChipmunk | yea |
| 06:06.47 | hyperChipmunk | I installed it |
| 06:06.50 | hyperChipmunk | but it no worky >8*( |
| 06:06.54 | Diao | is nobody else getting errors with violation and/or recount? :o |
| 06:06.55 | kergoth | :( |
| 06:07.03 | NightHawkTheSane | hyperChipmunk, kergoth: you can edit support in pretty easily |
| 06:07.05 | kergoth | i tried it on one of my old low level druids.. quite cool |
| 06:07.07 | hyperChipmunk | it's pretty much a hunter addon |
| 06:07.08 | NightHawkTheSane | the code's not terribly complex |
| 06:07.10 | kergoth | well yeah, but i'm lazy |
| 06:07.14 | hyperChipmunk | yea, i will tomorrow |
| 06:07.20 | NightHawkTheSane | no, i mean I hacked in basic support in like 30s ;) |
| 06:07.48 | ZealotOnAStick | Anyone happen to know if the big Adobe CS3 everything suite is out yet? |
| 06:08.08 | Wobwork | I thought it was? |
| 06:08.11 | omega_ | ZealotOnAStick: it has been for like 2 months? |
| 06:08.19 | ZealotOnAStick | Uhm, no . . . |
| 06:08.20 | hyperChipmunk | in stores or in torrentz |
| 06:08.47 | hyperChipmunk | gimp 2.3 ftw |
| 06:08.49 | ZealotOnAStick | Certain products were, but some other ones weren't yet, was coming out in June or July or so. Like Web and Creative I think were, but Master wasn't. |
| 06:09.01 | omega_ | aha |
| 06:09.02 | ZealotOnAStick | gimp will edit and encode my videos? |
| 06:09.13 | ZealotOnAStick | :P |
| 06:09.22 | hyperChipmunk | uh, no, why should it |
| 06:09.30 | ZealotOnAStick | there's more to adobe than photoshop. |
| 06:09.34 | hyperChipmunk | that's what transcode is for |
| 06:09.53 | ZealotOnAStick | I want Premier and Aftereffects as options for stuff I can't quite do in Vegas with Boris. |
| 06:10.24 | Diao | illustrator! |
| 06:10.29 | ZealotOnAStick | Also, I saw discussion about it in this channel the other today, but went to look at my config.wtf, and couldn't find an entry for it. |
| 06:10.38 | hyperChipmunk | Inkscape! |
| 06:10.42 | NightHawkTheSane | well, for what its worth, I don't see any comprehensive cs3 mac torrent around, just ones for the individual products. *shrug* |
| 06:10.47 | ZealotOnAStick | How do I get my jpeg quality in WoW for screenshots turned up, or preferably use Targa again? |
| 06:11.17 | ZealotOnAStick | I thought there was supposed to be a keybind option for it, but I didn't see one. |
| 06:11.19 | hyperChipmunk | SET screenshotFormat "tga" |
| 06:11.27 | hyperChipmunk | in your config.wtf |
| 06:11.43 | ZealotOnAStick | ty |
| 06:11.54 | hyperChipmunk | or set the cvar in game |
| 06:12.21 | hyperChipmunk | i assume screenshotQuality for the jpg quality |
| 06:12.34 | ZealotOnAStick | Nah, just using Targa will do nicely. |
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| 06:12.51 | hyperChipmunk | if you're on a mac, you can use png |
| 06:13.02 | ZealotOnAStick | Our full-size killshots the last couple of days have been far muddier than I'd prefer. |
| 06:13.15 | hyperChipmunk | apparently that's a "mac thing" that windows and linux can't do |
| 06:13.22 | NightHawkTheSane | hyperChipmunk: CoreImage |
| 06:13.31 | hyperChipmunk | NightHawkTheSane: libpng |
| 06:13.34 | aen` | kergoth: where did you buy the older versions of them? |
| 06:13.38 | ZealotOnAStick | Well, linux probably could, but linux makes wow think it's Windows. |
| 06:13.51 | hyperChipmunk | libpng is Free |
| 06:14.00 | omega_ | I just use the gnome screenshot thingy under linux |
| 06:14.02 | NightHawkTheSane | hyperChipmunk: I'm just guessing that's what the difference is, I'm not saying anything else :P |
| 06:14.07 | omega_ | gives me nice sweet pngs |
| 06:14.08 | aen` | kergoth: im trying to find a replacement but newegg doesnt sell them anymore |
| 06:14.15 | NightHawkTheSane | hyperChipmunk: as it's not strictly just pngs, as you can do PDF too |
| 06:14.21 | hyperChipmunk | yea, i convert 'em |
| 06:14.26 | hyperChipmunk | but it's such a nuisance |
| 06:14.36 | hyperChipmunk | 8.8MB targas are just retarded |
| 06:14.50 | hyperChipmunk | it's 2007 for crying out loud |
| 06:15.10 | hyperChipmunk | not 1977 |
| 06:15.20 | ZealotOnAStick | 8.8? What res you run at? |
| 06:15.26 | hyperChipmunk | 1920x1200 |
| 06:15.30 | ZealotOnAStick | Ahh. |
| 06:15.38 | ZealotOnAStick | My 16x12s are 7.5 |
| 06:16.12 | ZealotOnAStick | odd widescreen res. I thought it was usually 19x14ish? |
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| 06:16.50 | omega_ | purl: 1920/1200 |
| 06:17.03 | purl | 1.6 |
| 06:17.03 | Kirkburn | *** Contributers to the wiki, we have a competition for tickets to Blizzcon! Visit http://www.wowwiki.com/2007_BlizzCon_Invitation *** |
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| 06:17.32 | hyperChipmunk | 16:10 |
| 06:17.33 | hyperChipmunk | yea |
| 06:18.10 | Diao | what's 16:9 then |
| 06:18.12 | Diao | tv? |
| 06:18.16 | aen` | kergoth: ping |
| 06:18.18 | hyperChipmunk | yea |
| 06:18.22 | Diao | ahh |
| 06:18.29 | omega_ | purl: 1920/1080 |
| 06:18.32 | purl | 1.777777777778 |
| 06:18.37 | Fin | hooooooooRAY! |
| 06:18.37 | hyperChipmunk | 1080p is 1920x1080 |
| 06:18.51 | Fin | today is OFFICIALLY the last day I work for the largest corporate employer in the world |
| 06:18.52 | ZealotOnAStick | purl: 1920/1440 |
| 06:18.53 | purl | 1.333333333333 |
| 06:18.59 | Fin | which is EXACTLY the hell it sounds like |
| 06:19.08 | hyperChipmunk | ~16/9 |
| 06:19.10 | purl | 1.777777777778 |
| 06:19.10 | ZealotOnAStick | no, TV is 4x3 |
| 06:19.11 | omega_ | Fin: what company is that? |
| 06:19.19 | Fin | omega_: Deutsche Post World Net |
| 06:19.21 | Fin | aka DPWN |
| 06:19.26 | ZealotOnAStick | ~ 4/3 |
| 06:19.27 | purl | 1.333333333333 |
| 06:19.27 | omega_ | go postal! :p |
| 06:19.31 | Fin | (they overtook Walmart for the first time this year) |
| 06:19.38 | Fin | ~500,000 employees |
| 06:19.50 | hyperChipmunk | yea, 4:3 if you're still living in the stone age |
| 06:19.51 | ZealotOnAStick | but TV is different pixel aspect than computer screens. |
| 06:19.51 | NightHawkTheSane | ~22/7 |
| 06:19.53 | purl | 3.142857142857 |
| 06:20.01 | Diao | lol |
| 06:20.08 | Diao | i like 4:3 :( |
| 06:20.16 | hyperChipmunk | trogdolyte |
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| 06:21.02 | ZealotOnAStick | Argh. Neither screenshot of the guild waving at Lady Vashj came out worth a flip. |
| 06:21.15 | ZealotOnAStick | I think there's like 2 people waving in mine, and maybe 3 or 4 in my GL's. |
| 06:21.38 | sedatedChipmunk | lol Nubia on modern marvels |
| 06:22.02 | sedatedChipmunk | HAY GUYZ I HAIL FRUM NUBIA |
| 06:22.05 | sedatedChipmunk | LOL |
| 06:24.31 | Kirkburn | Anyone who has edited the WoWWiki more then 100 times, is from the US and is 18+, you could win tickets to Blizzcon :) http://www.wowwiki.com/2007_BlizzCon_Invitation (I may post this several times, the closing date is the 12th) |
| 06:24.34 | ZealotOnAStick | Hmm. I think I'll have to go with the shot with Archmage Vargoth in it. |
| 06:24.55 | CIA-22 | 03adirelle * r39037 10Violation/Violation.lua: Violation: attempt to fix error when joining group. |
| 06:25.04 | Kirkburn | Yeah, er, you have to have already reached 100 :P |
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| 06:25.43 | kergoth | aen`, heh sorry got distracted by leveling my hunter :P i didnt. i searched -everywhere-. i checked newegg, zipzoomfly, pricegrabber, googled.. the ps2 model seems to be out of commission. i just gave in and bought 5 of the newer version. its still an ultra x, its just usb now, and the plastic of hte keyboard is slightly different molding wise.. its actually smaller than the old one, in overall dimensions, afaict |
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| 06:26.05 | aen` | the smaller backspace annoying though? |
| 06:26.10 | aen` | and win key |
| 06:26.32 | sedatedChipmunk | small backspace? |
| 06:26.33 | sedatedChipmunk | heathen |
| 06:26.55 | kergoth | it doesnt bug me any. i usually disable the windows key in windows, and the backspace wasnt enough smaller to bother me any |
| 06:27.03 | sedatedChipmunk | backspace should be huge liek ps3 |
| 06:27.14 | Fin | it's more satisfying |
| 06:27.18 | aen` | i use the win key like a fiend |
| 06:27.22 | aen` | rarely use the mouse |
| 06:27.24 | sedatedChipmunk | dude, the win key rules |
| 06:27.25 | Fin | you are indeed a fiend |
| 06:27.32 | sedatedChipmunk | it's my WM key |
| 06:27.54 | kergoth | true, when i'm in linux i use it as my wm key too, so you can use alt in games |
| 06:28.22 | Fin | it just irritates me |
| 06:28.37 | Fin | always fucking switching out of WoW because I've accidentally done win+something |
| 06:28.38 | Diao | aghh |
| 06:28.46 | Diao | the recount/violation errors are making me sad |
| 06:29.04 | Fin | try therapy |
| 06:29.05 | Adirelle | which error ? |
| 06:29.07 | sedatedChipmunk | well you shouldn't have the win key bound to an action |
| 06:29.13 | sedatedChipmunk | it should be a modifier |
| 06:29.15 | Fin | it's bound by default |
| 06:29.18 | Diao | uh |
| 06:29.21 | Diao | 1 sec i'll pastey it |
| 06:29.26 | Fin | I don't explicitly bind it |
| 06:30.30 | Diao | http://ace.pastey.net/56423 |
| 06:30.30 | Fin | if I bound it to something myself, then complained about it being bound to something, I'd probably have stopped breathing right now because I couldn't figure out how |
| 06:30.33 | Diao | there |
| 06:30.34 | sedatedChipmunk | win-leftclick = move windows; win-rightclick = resize windows; win-scrollwheel = page desktops; etc. |
| 06:30.44 | Diao | basically the same error i guess |
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| 06:31.07 | Fin | what's wrong with alt? |
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| 06:31.59 | Adirelle | [Ammo], vhaar: I would like to discuss about module structures in Violation, but I dunno on which media (official topic on forum ? dedicated new topic ? here ? other ? obiwan kenobi ?) |
| 06:33.09 | Fin | please submit all suggestions for modification in writing using the forms available at your local ace office |
| 06:33.10 | sedatedChipmunk | getting a new meta-key standard on all keyboards is the one thing for which i truly praise microsoft |
| 06:33.44 | Fin | I don't quite get this, I have to say |
| 06:33.56 | Adirelle | Diao: seems related to last Parser updates, did you updated ? |
| 06:33.56 | Fin | what *is* wrong with alt? |
| 06:34.05 | sedatedChipmunk | alt is used in applications |
| 06:34.16 | sedatedChipmunk | so are ctrl and shift |
| 06:34.27 | sedatedChipmunk | win/super is perfect for WM ops |
| 06:34.46 | Diao | yes |
| 06:34.49 | Diao | i updated about 15 min ago |
| 06:35.05 | Diao | switched to parser-3.0 from parserlib but i think they already used parser-3.0 |
| 06:35.25 | sedatedChipmunk | if you've ever used a 3D modelling program, you'd truly appreciate it |
| 06:35.38 | Fin | I have a windows manager type thing installed and it's got key bindings, and they work fine, I guess I've just never been in a situation that I can remember where it would've been useful to have another key |
| 06:35.55 | sedatedChipmunk | that's because you've never used one |
| 06:36.07 | Fin | well |
| 06:36.12 | sedatedChipmunk | it's one of those 'how-did-i-ever-live-without-it' type things =) |
| 06:36.14 | Fin | there's all sorts of things I've never used that I wish I had |
| 06:36.14 | Adirelle | Diao: parser-3.0 has a 1.1-compatibility layer, but it's maybe broken :/ |
| 06:36.20 | Fin | but, I take your point |
| 06:36.25 | sedatedChipmunk | like multiple monitors |
| 06:36.31 | Fin | I have two monitors |
| 06:36.35 | sedatedChipmunk | virtual desktops |
| 06:36.36 | sedatedChipmunk | etc. |
| 06:36.41 | Fin | and a virtual desktop manager |
| 06:36.59 | omega_ | its like going from a mac -> something else "oh man, how did I ever survive before the apple-key" |
| 06:37.10 | sedatedChipmunk | could you go back to one-desktop/one-monitor? |
| 06:37.44 | Fin | oh, I see what you mean - I thought you meant that the meta key was useful for virtual desktops or multiple monitors :) |
| 06:37.54 | sedatedChipmunk | oh, well it is, obviously |
| 06:38.01 | sedatedChipmunk | but that wasn't the point i was making |
| 06:38.03 | Adirelle | sedatedChipmunk: are you bipolar ? :p |
| 06:38.03 | Fin | sure, no way, I know exactly what you mean |
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| 06:38.20 | CIA-22 | AtlasLoot: |
| 06:38.21 | CIA-22 | - Raid loot upgrade |
| 06:38.23 | Fin | I just... can't think of how I'd use a meta key |
| 06:38.30 | Fin | it's sort of like poetry and jazz form e |
| 06:38.34 | Fin | s/form e/for me/ |
| 06:38.37 | sedatedChipmunk | Adirelle: WHY THE !#@$ WOULD YOU ASK ME SUCH A STUPID QUESTION? |
| 06:38.47 | nadas | hmm, SimpleCombatLog and WitchHunt bugging out over missing ParserLib. guess i still need it... :p |
| 06:38.51 | sedatedChipmunk | I mean, uh, no? |
| 06:39.02 | Fin | I mean, there must be *something* good about poetry and jazz, cos loads of people love both, but I honestly can't figure out what the hell it is |
| 06:39.06 | NightHawkTheSane | omega_: using pc's makes me cry, i miss my command key. :P |
| 06:39.15 | Adirelle | sedatedChipmunk: you're switching for to sedated/hyperactive quite often :D |
| 06:39.19 | sedatedChipmunk | oh |
| 06:39.30 | sedatedChipmunk | i go to sedated when i'm going to bed |
| 06:39.34 | Fin | nights are getting shorter |
| 06:39.36 | sedatedChipmunk | but then i forget i'm going to bed |
| 06:39.38 | sedatedChipmunk | >*P |
| 06:39.40 | Adirelle | btw, that's what just kidding :p |
| 06:39.46 | sedatedChipmunk | shup |
| 06:39.51 | sedatedChipmunk | i'm going now |
| 06:40.19 | Fin | o/~ I've got a brand new combine harvester ~/o |
| 06:40.44 | Fin | actually no, no george today |
| 06:41.02 | Fin | o/~ There I was, digging this hole ~/o |
| 06:41.46 | Fin | o/~ A hole in the ground, it was so big and sort o' round ~/o |
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| 06:42.14 | Adirelle | hrm... something seems broken with the parserlib change, though I can't see why |
| 06:43.20 | Adirelle | and oh, Antiarc, tho Threat should be parser-agnostic, he doesn't working with 1.1 |
| 06:43.43 | Antiarc | Adirelle: Yeah, I know, I haven't done that yet :/ |
| 06:44.27 | Adirelle | oh kay, nvm them |
| 06:44.44 | KarlThePagan | Antiarc, I'm having an omen issue where my own bar is completely transparent |
| 06:44.51 | Adirelle | hrm... why the fuck violation doesn't receive event from parserlib anymore :( |
| 06:45.00 | art3mis | well jazz is awesome because of the groove and coooool attached to it |
| 06:45.17 | art3mis | its just great music |
| 06:45.46 | ZealotOnAStick | Antiarc, I presume you're aware of the various weird crap with the newer Omen gui and stuff? Massive header columns, bars the entire width of the screen, etc? |
| 06:46.11 | Antiarc | Yup |
| 06:46.15 | KarlThePagan | kk |
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| 06:46.56 | Antiarc | heh |
| 06:46.57 | Silviu- | ;) |
| 06:48.53 | xt | we had our MT going on about how amazing Omen was |
| 06:49.20 | xt | it was brilliant for VoidReaver, that's for sure |
| 06:49.24 | ZealotOnAStick | Most of my guild is impatient for it to be stable and "done" so we can switch wholesale and be well rid of KTM. |
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| 06:49.35 | ZealotOnAStick | It was nice for Lurker tonight. |
| 06:49.45 | CIA-22 | 03jhjung * r39039 10Babble-2.2/Babble-Spell-2.2/Babble-Spell-2.2.lua: |
| 06:49.45 | CIA-22 | Babble-2.2: |
| 06:49.45 | CIA-22 | -fixed korean translation error : "Anguish" |
| 06:49.48 | ScoTTie | with Omen, how do you turn the graphing fearure on ? |
| 06:50.23 | Antiarc | ScoTTie: It's disabled right now due to excessive CPU usage |
| 06:50.29 | ScoTTie | ah ok |
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| 06:50.43 | ScoTTie | looks cool |
| 06:50.44 | ZealotOnAStick | Though I just enjoyed the Lurker fight overall anyway. So relatively few simplistic fights anymore where I get to just stand there and blast the fuck out of something. Sort of boring, but a sort of a nice break after Leo and Karathress and stuff. |
| 06:51.00 | xt | ZealotOnAStick: did you try alar yet? |
| 06:51.09 | art3mis | http://www.blizzard.com/blizzcon07/goodies.shtml |
| 06:51.11 | Aenslaed | alar is so much fun :D |
| 06:51.15 | xt | yes! |
| 06:51.15 | Aenslaed | got our first kill tonight |
| 06:51.27 | xt | Solid nuking for almost 5 minutes there |
| 06:51.34 | ZealotOnAStick | Not since the patch. We raid Sunday-Thursday . . . Friday and Saturdays off. We're going to TK Sunday and Monday. |
| 06:51.38 | Aenslaed | well, I tank |
| 06:51.44 | Aenslaed | so its one hell of a great fight |
| 06:51.49 | xt | swiftness potions!? :D |
| 06:51.55 | Aenslaed | feral charge |
| 06:52.07 | Aenslaed | I do offtank on the embers. |
| 06:52.13 | xt | ah, k |
| 06:52.18 | ZealotOnAStick | Void Reaver's been Farm status for a month, so I'm looking forward to the new a'lar. We've played with Solarian some. |
| 06:52.53 | Silviu- | Aenslaed how u do him tank all adds till end or kill them |
| 06:53.09 | art3mis | pervert |
| 06:53.24 | Silviu- | ;) |
| 06:53.26 | xt | Silviu-: we have melee on adds |
| 06:53.49 | Aenslaed | Silviu-: hrm? phase 1 or phase 2? |
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| 06:53.55 | Silviu- | We tryed with ranged ( mages , warlocks ) on adds but it`s a big dps loss on boss like so |
| 06:53.57 | Silviu- | Phase 2 |
| 06:54.03 | Aenslaed | kill them as they spawn |
| 06:54.03 | ScoTTie | hmmm |
| 06:54.23 | ScoTTie | omens bars are going all the way out of its container to the right right of my screen |
| 06:54.35 | ScoTTie | with the test bars |
| 06:54.38 | Silviu- | ScoTTie will be fixed in next version |
| 06:54.59 | ScoTTie | sweet |
| 06:55.06 | xt | Aenslaed: mostly you'll want spriests and warlocks on boss because of synergy effects |
| 06:55.12 | Aenslaed | Silviu-: we have melee on al'ar and casters on the embers. |
| 06:55.30 | Aenslaed | sure al'ar has a buttload of armor |
| 06:55.42 | Aenslaed | but its better than having them chase the embers around. |
| 06:55.57 | Silviu- | Aenslaed don`t understand why this tactic because as a warlock i always do more dmg then all on all bosses, why should i waste my dps on adds instead of nuking the boss ? ;( |
| 06:56.14 | xt | Indeed |
| 06:56.16 | Aenslaed | because the adds do 3% damage to al'ar when they die |
| 06:56.21 | Aenslaed | ~3% |
| 06:56.36 | purl | 0.03 |
| 06:56.36 | Silviu- | Hmmmmmm |
| 06:56.36 | Silviu- | So u kill adds near the boss ? |
| 06:56.36 | Aenslaed | you dont even have to put a single dps on al'ar, other than the fact that there's the 10 minute enrage |
| 06:56.46 | Aenslaed | not near. Just the embers dying, damages the boss |
| 06:56.47 | ZealotOnAStick | it is kinda nice putting up new killshots on back to back days after not having one for nearly a month. |
| 06:56.55 | Silviu- | Yes ? did not notice it |
| 06:57.06 | Aenslaed | does it in phase 1 and phase 2 |
| 06:57.22 | Silviu- | We only managed him to 30% or so in phase 2 |
| 06:58.01 | Aenslaed | in fact, we keep 2-3 embers from phase 1 into phase 2. |
| 06:58.11 | Aenslaed | we get al'ar to 80% before first meteor |
| 06:58.21 | Silviu- | Hmm we could try that |
| 06:59.08 | xt | http://paparazzi.h4x.no/wws/alar2/hits.html |
| 06:59.14 | xt | there you can see exactly who's where |
| 06:59.21 | xt | it was a very clean kill |
| 06:59.24 | CIA-22 | 03next96 * r39040 10BigWigs/Outland/Maulgar.lua: |
| 06:59.24 | CIA-22 | BigWigs: |
| 06:59.24 | CIA-22 | - Maulgar.lua |
| 06:59.24 | CIA-22 | - Update locale koKR |
| 06:59.33 | Silviu- | And about this discussion with threat on him? what is your opinion he wipes it in phase 2 or not, i think yes because in p1 i`m way in front of all tanks and in p2 he don`t come to me |
| 06:59.39 | kebinusan | bleh |
| 06:59.47 | Aenslaed | seems to stick |
| 06:59.48 | xt | Silviu-: he doesnt wipe threat |
| 06:59.51 | xt | 100 % sure |
| 06:59.57 | kebinusan | stupid guild members reporting some silly trojan on our guild site I cant track down |
| 07:00.01 | Aenslaed | not sure who he sticks to, but he sticks onto someone. |
| 07:00.02 | Silviu- | I`m like 200k threat and tank 60k |
| 07:00.04 | xt | If I dont soulshatter I will get him on me 100% of the time |
| 07:00.05 | kebinusan | I admit Im amazed anyone still runs IE tho |
| 07:00.07 | Silviu- | Why he don`t attack me ? |
| 07:00.15 | CIA-22 | 03next96 * r39041 10BigWigs/SC/Morogrim.lua: |
| 07:00.15 | CIA-22 | BigWigs: |
| 07:00.15 | CIA-22 | - Morogrim.lua |
| 07:00.15 | CIA-22 | - Update locale koKR |
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| 07:00.39 | Aenslaed | Silviu-: its something like whoever has initial aggro in phase 2 before first meteor, gets first aggro there on out |
| 07:00.50 | Aenslaed | but i'm not 100% sure |
| 07:01.04 | Silviu- | We`ll see ... |
| 07:01.16 | Silviu- | Sunday or so we try him again |
| 07:01.26 | evl | mag? :) |
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| 07:01.32 | CIA-22 | 03sylvanaar 07sylvanaar * r39042 10Prat/teststuff/ (8 files in 2 dirs): cookies |
| 07:01.44 | CIA-22 | 03next96 * r39043 10BigWigs/SC/Morogrim.lua: |
| 07:01.44 | CIA-22 | BigWigs: |
| 07:01.44 | CIA-22 | - Morogrim.lua |
| 07:01.44 | CIA-22 | - One more koKR :) |
| 07:01.47 | Silviu- | evl Al`Ar |
| 07:02.29 | Adirelle | err... does AceLibrary autoenables Standalone library addon if they are disables ??? |
| 07:02.30 | evl | meh we had wipefest on mag yeesterday, disconnect fest |
| 07:02.47 | Aenslaed | oh god. we had that problem on void reaver last week |
| 07:02.54 | Aenslaed | half the raid DC'd on one attempt |
| 07:03.06 | Aenslaed | and he enraged at 11% :/ |
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| 07:03.15 | ZealotOnAStick | We had a few stupid wipes on Mag tonight. Mostly because the tank we had tanking him for the first time kept fucking it up, and had him in the wrong place and position almost the entire time. |
| 07:03.27 | evl | Well mag is a nice encounters |
| 07:03.32 | evl | except that it relies on a perfect execution :P |
| 07:03.35 | ZealotOnAStick | Mag enrages? |
| 07:03.47 | evl | yeah, after half a calendar year though :) |
| 07:03.56 | Silviu- | Xt , u are not UA skilled ? ;( |
| 07:04.12 | ZealotOnAStick | Huh. Never knew he had an enrage. |
| 07:04.29 | kebinusan | our realm is so barren its hard to actually get 25 to raid, some guilds need to break up so we can steal members or something |
| 07:04.48 | ZealotOnAStick | ooh, horde or alliance, what realm? |
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| 07:05.15 | Antiarc | Can I programatically create a virtual frame? |
| 07:05.16 | kebinusan | alliance |
| 07:05.19 | ZealotOnAStick | bah |
| 07:05.24 | kebinusan | shu'halo US |
| 07:05.28 | Aenslaed | god. We need to find shadow priests and resto shamans. Dont know why but all our shadow priests are so godawful. |
| 07:05.32 | Antiarc | I thought I could just CreateFrame() and then use the name I gave it as the template name for creating frames based on it |
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| 07:05.41 | Diao | omen is all buggy :( |
| 07:05.50 | ZealotOnAStick | We had 2 excellent shadow priests. Then Bjartur decided to quit raiding and go social. |
| 07:05.50 | Antiarc | Yes it is :P |
| 07:05.52 | Antiarc | I'm fixing it |
| 07:05.53 | xt | Silviu-: UA is weak |
| 07:05.54 | Antiarc | It's also alpha. |
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| 07:06.03 | Silviu- | xt not for me ;p |
| 07:06.05 | ZealotOnAStick | and his replacement . . . is nowhere near as good, and suddenly has a massive fucking attitude. |
| 07:06.07 | kebinusan | I got a bar earlier that stretched across my screen but I hadnt updated and tested again yet |
| 07:06.20 | Antiarc | I haven't committed the fix yet |
| 07:06.22 | ZealotOnAStick | Our other one is still good, though he does die terribly lots. |
| 07:06.24 | xt | Silviu-: better do some theorycrafting, nothing beats 0/21/40 :D |
| 07:06.24 | Aenslaed | yeah, we have one good spriest but he's got 40% attendance. The other spot is shared amongst 3 spriests who are terrible |
| 07:06.37 | Aenslaed | terrible amongst the lines of farm status hydross lawl i mindflay on transition |
| 07:06.39 | Silviu- | Well i always have to stay with imp out |
| 07:06.55 | xt | Silviu-: that would ruin it, indeed :D |
| 07:06.55 | ZealotOnAStick | xt: I beat all the lock specs in our raid, and I'm 44/0/17 |
| 07:06.57 | Silviu- | Because i`m in mt grp almost all time |
| 07:07.14 | Silviu- | But i don`t complain on almost all fights i`m 1 or 2 or 3 |
| 07:07.15 | xt | ZealotOnAStick: affl locks can win if there's movement involved |
| 07:07.23 | Silviu- | In damage |
| 07:07.26 | CIA-22 | 03fenlis * r39044 10Babble-2.2/Babble-Spell-2.2/Babble-Spell-2.2.lua: |
| 07:07.27 | CIA-22 | Babble-2.2: |
| 07:07.27 | CIA-22 | - Fixed 'changes by jhjung' |
| 07:07.39 | xt | Silviu-: yeah, affliction is very self sustained |
| 07:07.41 | ZealotOnAStick | Our heavy Destro lock only really consistently beat me on Morogrim. |
| 07:07.44 | Silviu- | 41/0/20 here |
| 07:07.54 | ZealotOnAStick | I still miss ruin, though. |
| 07:08.00 | Aenslaed | our rogues dominate our meters |
| 07:08.02 | ZealotOnAStick | It's really tempting for me to go back to 40/0/21 |
| 07:08.17 | Silviu- | ZealotOnAStick why because of Soc crits ? ;) |
| 07:08.35 | ZealotOnAStick | I miss Ruin, overall. I like shadow bolting. |
| 07:08.38 | xt | need to have 1 destruction warlock in raid though |
| 07:08.39 | ZealotOnAStick | With UA, I do a lot less of it. |
| 07:08.40 | Silviu- | ;) |
| 07:08.44 | xt | it's sick for raid dps |
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| 07:08.54 | xt | as in, improved shadow bolt debuff |
| 07:08.59 | Silviu- | xt |
| 07:09.07 | Silviu- | I get that with my build too |
| 07:09.13 | xt | sure |
| 07:09.14 | Silviu- | Ua, corr, coa, siphon |
| 07:09.16 | xt | but I do ONLY shadow bolt |
| 07:09.17 | ZealotOnAStick | That's a first tier talent, I don't think a lock in our guild doesn't have it. |
| 07:09.18 | Silviu- | Then 3 4 sb`s |
| 07:09.20 | Silviu- | Then repeat |
| 07:09.25 | Silviu- | xt booring |
| 07:09.34 | Silviu- | U spam sam button and watch a movie ? ;( |
| 07:09.36 | Silviu- | same* |
| 07:09.39 | xt | getting 4600 shadow bolt hits and 9k crits is boring ? :D |
| 07:09.44 | Silviu- | Yes |
| 07:09.59 | Silviu- | http://www.lossendil.com/wws/?report=y2i36gg3qqzz1 |
| 07:10.01 | xt | but both specs are equally viable, so whatever people like :) |
| 07:10.18 | Silviu- | True |
| 07:10.44 | xt | Silviu-: void reaver is hax as affliction :D |
| 07:10.52 | Silviu- | Heh |
| 07:11.05 | ZealotOnAStick | VR is fun. I just wish he and the other Eye bots weren't immune to siphon/drain. |
| 07:11.06 | Silviu- | that warri owned me because he don`t have to move so much there near him |
| 07:11.10 | Silviu- | he can just dps him ;p |
| 07:11.10 | ZealotOnAStick | They changed them in Mechanar, why not in there? |
| 07:11.32 | Silviu- | ZealotOnAStick i miss my siphon on void or drain life |
| 07:11.46 | Silviu- | i have to bandage myself sometimes because healers are to busy heal tank :( |
| 07:12.00 | ZealotOnAStick | I especially miss it, Soul Siphon with that many dots on him is stupid nice. |
| 07:12.10 | Silviu- | True |
| 07:12.14 | Silviu- | And with sp in raid |
| 07:12.16 | Silviu- | Omg :) |
| 07:12.29 | ZealotOnAStick | oh yes. At least I usually get in group with an SP for VR. |
| 07:12.30 | Silviu- | 1 drain = full hp lol |
| 07:12.38 | Silviu- | i don`t .. |
| 07:12.42 | Silviu- | me tank grp :/ |
| 07:12.45 | Silviu- | Always ...;( |
| 07:13.04 | ZealotOnAStick | for why? |
| 07:13.07 | Silviu- | i never benefit from Sp grp or from shaman grp |
| 07:13.21 | ZealotOnAStick | we stopped bothing with imps on VR because aggro bounces too much between the warrs and bears. |
| 07:13.30 | ZealotOnAStick | s/bothing/bothering/ |
| 07:13.43 | Silviu- | ZealotOnAStick well i`m in grp with 3 tanks on vr |
| 07:13.44 | Silviu- | ;)) |
| 07:14.02 | Silviu- | me and 3 tanks and a pally |
| 07:14.04 | Silviu- | ;)) |
| 07:14.17 | ZealotOnAStick | We'd much rather have totems and a tree in there. |
| 07:14.19 | Aenslaed | VR is great fun as a tank too. So much better than SSC tanking |
| 07:14.45 | ZealotOnAStick | resto druid in MT group = hax |
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| 07:14.57 | Aenslaed | only because you have to think when it comes to VR. Good practice for guestimating threat values |
| 07:15.12 | xt | Silviu-: should have shaman in there |
| 07:15.20 | Silviu- | We only have 1 |
| 07:15.22 | Silviu- | or max 2 |
| 07:15.28 | xt | he should be in MT group, still :D |
| 07:15.32 | xt | it's sick for aggro |
| 07:15.42 | Aenslaed | just use MD |
| 07:15.47 | Silviu- | We don`t have aggro probls on vr |
| 07:16.10 | xt | well, it's always nice with more threat |
| 07:16.17 | Silviu- | True :) |
| 07:16.24 | Antiarc | I don't suppose there's a way to anchor something to a percentage offset from its parent frame? |
| 07:16.32 | Silviu- | Sometimes i have to stop dmg until my Shatter cd is rdy :) |
| 07:16.37 | xt | exactly |
| 07:16.45 | CIA-22 | 03adirelle * r39045 10Violation/ (10 files in 4 dirs): |
| 07:16.45 | CIA-22 | Violation: |
| 07:16.45 | CIA-22 | - fixed event catching (somehow due to ParserLib change, but why ???). It works with Parser-3.0 compat layer, not tested with native ParserLib-1.1. |
| 07:16.46 | CIA-22 | - anonymous pet damages are now accounted as self damage (works only for *your* anonymous pets). |
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| 07:17.22 | Adirelle | bubye, gtg work |
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| 07:20.31 | ckknight | event catching? |
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| 07:22.38 | ZealotOnAStick | what's the difference between . and .. in lua string handling? |
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| 07:22.54 | ckknight | one is an index, one is a concatenation |
| 07:24.34 | ZealotOnAStick | I'm trying to understand why some ..s got changed to . in a couple of lines in NRT, and if it really effectively makes any difference. |
| 07:24.58 | ZealotOnAStick | local text = "<raid zone=\"" .. attendance.zone .. "\">\n <date>" .. date("%d/%m %H:%M", attendance.date) .. "</date>\n " |
| 07:25.02 | ZealotOnAStick | vs |
| 07:25.12 | ZealotOnAStick | local text = "<raid zone=\"" .. attendance.zone .. "\">\n <date>" . date("%d/%m %H:%M", attendance.date) .. "</date>\n " |
| 07:25.35 | ZealotOnAStick | I'm . . . not sure it matters? |
| 07:25.53 | ckknight | well, it should fail, afaik. |
| 07:26.24 | ZealotOnAStick | well, both versions seem to produce pretty much identical output. |
| 07:27.35 | kergoth | hmm, i dont think intimidation is handled right by threat atm |
| 07:27.41 | grennon | fuck heroic shattered halls |
| 07:27.49 | ZealotOnAStick | Heh. |
| 07:27.57 | grennon | why did they make a heroic that requires a priest to respec shadow? |
| 07:27.58 | ZealotOnAStick | They didn't nerf it like the others? |
| 07:28.05 | grennon | its EZ cheese |
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| 07:28.22 | grennon | we were rolling it with a pally tank, 2x fury warrior, rogue, holy/disc priest |
| 07:28.44 | grennon | but kargath is just impossible with a holy priest |
| 07:28.54 | grennon | this isnt a nerf issue, this is basic tuning |
| 07:28.58 | nadas | i did it loads of times with a holy priest? |
| 07:29.07 | grennon | heroic mode |
| 07:29.10 | nadas | actually i never did it with a shadow priest :) |
| 07:29.12 | nadas | yes, heroic |
| 07:29.33 | grennon | even with a stoneshield pot, sup defense, and stam food the priest cant live through blade dance |
| 07:29.39 | grennon | thats just not right |
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| 07:29.45 | nadas | our priests do |
| 07:29.51 | nadas | they wear full sta gear thoug |
| 07:29.52 | nadas | h |
| 07:29.59 | grennon | how many HPs? |
| 07:30.06 | nadas | around 12k |
| 07:30.11 | nadas | fully buffed |
| 07:31.00 | nadas | depends how you position your group i suppose. we always tank kargath at the stairs entering his "arena" and the tank picks up all the adds |
| 07:31.06 | nadas | rest spread inside the arena |
| 07:31.28 | grennon | thats what we did |
| 07:31.31 | Roartindon | grennon: Our holy priests did fine single healing heroic SH..... however.... your group seems massively melee heavy... |
| 07:31.43 | grennon | the pally tank just lays down consc |
| 07:31.58 | nadas | my normal heroic setup is prot tank, holy priest, mage, lock and rogue |
| 07:32.17 | grennon | there werent any problems healing the melee, its just that if the priest gets 2 hits of blade dance during a blade dance cycle, they die |
| 07:32.32 | grennon | the pally is the only one taking damage unless theres a blade dance |
| 07:32.57 | grennon | and during blade dance, theres 3 plate wearers not taking much damage |
| 07:33.49 | grennon | its fun zerging down the 6-7 packs of trash with two whirlwinds and blade flurry mowing things down |
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| 07:35.35 | nadas | :p |
| 07:35.39 | ZealotOnAStick | We pretty much ignore most of the trash. Fear them and burn Kargath down faster. |
| 07:36.05 | grennon | thats what we do |
| 07:36.29 | grennon | most of the guild groups that have done with a priest made them respec shadow for it since they get 15% damage reduction |
| 07:36.52 | ZealotOnAStick | well, that's sort of stupid, IMO. |
| 07:38.23 | ZealotOnAStick | you're right, CK. throws errors. |
| 07:38.23 | ckknight | ? |
| 07:38.23 | ckknight | oh, right |
| 07:38.24 | grennon | shadow means good damage, more survivability |
| 07:38.24 | grennon | thats not stupid at all |
| 07:38.48 | ZealotOnAStick | I wonder if Aamina's copy is throwing errors, but still works anyway for the most part. *ponder* |
| 07:38.53 | grennon | a respec is usually cheaper and takes less time than re-gearing if you dont have the stam gear |
| 07:41.16 | nadas | Antiarc: still here? |
| 07:42.38 | grennon | looks like ill need to get this priest to craft some imbued netherweave and get stam enchants on it |
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| 07:47.03 | ilifin | which BG is holiday this week |
| 07:47.09 | evl | AV |
| 07:47.14 | evl | inc MAD honor :D |
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| 07:50.45 | ilifin | bah |
| 07:51.05 | ilifin | can't join with arena team for AV >_> |
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| 07:53.12 | CIA-22 | 03norova * r39046 10GrindStatus/modules/ (FactionCapitals.lua OutlandNeutral.lua OutlandShattrath.lua): GrindStatus: zhTW update |
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| 07:57.17 | Antiarc | nadas: Yeah |
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| 07:58.56 | nadas | Antiarc: the threat/hydross module registers koKR translations twice. dunno if it will actually bug anything tough.. |
| 07:59.29 | Antiarc | nadas: Hm, probably a cpoy/paste error. I'll fix it. |
| 07:59.33 | nadas | :) |
| 08:01.07 | [dRaCo] | uhm... the right click menu of my violation window is gone o0 |
| 08:02.21 | CIA-22 | 03helium * r39047 10FuBar_QuestsFu/ (10 files in 10 dirs): |
| 08:02.21 | CIA-22 | FuBar_QuestsFu: |
| 08:02.21 | CIA-22 | - zhTW localization update |
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| 08:02.54 | *** mode/#wowace [+o SunTiger] by ChanServ |
| 08:03.26 | ZealotOnAStick | [dRaCo]: that's part of the new interface standard being pushed. All right-click functionality is being removed and replaced with CTRL-ALT-Mousewheel. |
| 08:03.41 | [dRaCo] | oh, ic. |
| 08:03.42 | [dRaCo] | thanks |
| 08:03.46 | [Ammo] | rofl |
| 08:03.53 | [Ammo] | read the violation thread draco |
| 08:04.04 | [Ammo] | specially the BOLD part in my last message might be of interest, that might also be why it's BOLD |
| 08:04.05 | ilifin | remember to turn your monitor off when you open omen |
| 08:04.13 | ilifin | you'll drop all your threat then! |
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| 08:06.50 | [dRaCo] | sorry... just noticed it ingame and I was kinda confused about it lacking a feature that was working before |
| 08:08.05 | Diao | ammo did you see my error report earlier about vio |
| 08:08.18 | [Ammo] | I saw something on forums |
| 08:08.24 | Diao | oh i reported it in here |
| 08:08.33 | [Ammo] | haven't investigated due to not caring before coffee |
| 08:08.36 | Diao | http://ace.pastey.net/56423 |
| 08:08.38 | cryogen | morning |
| 08:08.48 | Diao | something about parser compat adirelle said |
| 08:09.18 | [Ammo] | oh? |
| 08:10.36 | Jaxon | <PROTECTED> |
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| 08:12.37 | Cryect | ZealotOnAStick: I thought the new standard was supposed to include shift and F4 as well |
| 08:13.02 | Fisker- | dunno Jaxon mine is too :( |
| 08:14.40 | Adirelle | [Ammo]: rophy made some minor change to ParserLib-1.1 (and ckknight reflected them in Parser-3.0) |
| 08:15.10 | Health | Violation seems to be coming along nice again. |
| 08:15.18 | Adirelle | [Ammo] and for some reason, though this changes should have broken compatibility, I had to edit each data modules |
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| 08:15.42 | Adirelle | but... I only tested it with Parser-3.0 compat-layer |
| 08:16.06 | Adirelle | for some reason Parser-3.0 what reenabled each time I tried to disable it to check with native ParserLib-1.1 |
| 08:16.29 | [Ammo] | Adirelle: your revision thing bugs |
| 08:16.38 | [Ammo] | Adirelle: line 1524 errors |
| 08:16.49 | [Ammo] | it did ckknihgt |
| 08:16.54 | [Ammo] | because parser-3.0 sucked cock |
| 08:16.57 | [Ammo] | it might not suck now |
| 08:16.59 | [Ammo] | but it sucked then |
| 08:17.07 | Adirelle | [Ammo]: should had been corrected in last rev |
| 08:17.21 | [Ammo] | Adirelle: it's not, check the bugreports on forum |
| 08:17.37 | [Ammo] | ckknight: and lots of people used 1.1 already in SCL, SCT etc, having 2 parsers was overkill |
| 08:17.55 | ckknight | yea, and instead of telling me the issues with Parser-3.0 at the time, it merely just switched to 1.1 |
| 08:18.08 | [Ammo] | I told you the issues with 3.0 months ago |
| 08:18.11 | [Ammo] | that it was incomplete |
| 08:18.21 | Adirelle | [Ammo]: sereni's report ? it was pre r39037, which should have fixed it |
| 08:18.30 | ckknight | oh well, I added the compat layer et al |
| 08:18.47 | [Ammo] | which is fine, now people have a choice, violation is 1.1 |
| 08:19.00 | ckknight | and I will never ship Parser-1.1 in my addons, due to my dislike for its API |
| 08:19.06 | ckknight | *shrug* |
| 08:19.17 | Adirelle | [Ammo]: well... actually it runs on Parser-3.0 compat layer here, no trouble |
| 08:19.24 | [Ammo] | it runs on 1.1 here no trouble |
| 08:19.33 | Adirelle | as long as there is no trouble... |
| 08:19.34 | [Ammo] | so everyone happy |
| 08:19.38 | ckknight | but Violation still ships with Parser-1.1, meaning that it's still true that two parsers run at once |
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| 08:19.50 | ckknight | which is inefficient |
| 08:19.54 | ckknight | needlessly, imho |
| 08:19.57 | Adirelle | that's not false |
| 08:20.32 | Bver | double negatives! |
| 08:20.54 | Adirelle | [Ammo]: no trouble with native 1.1 ? it's fine then |
| 08:21.02 | [Ammo] | I don't have trouble with it |
| 08:21.02 | Adirelle | (I mean, with last rev) |
| 08:21.08 | [Ammo] | dunno latest rev |
| 08:21.27 | Adirelle | 39045 ? |
| 08:21.39 | Antiarc | So I'm trying to "drag out" a frame |
| 08:21.50 | [Ammo] | I mean I haven't tested latest rev |
| 08:21.59 | [Ammo] | Antiarc: you mean resize it with a draghandle? |
| 08:22.00 | Antiarc | OnDragStart on my parent frame, I create the child, position it under my mouse, and child:StartMoving() |
| 08:22.16 | [Ammo] | check out Violation's code for that |
| 08:22.16 | Antiarc | But then the OnMouseUp handler for the child never gets executed |
| 08:22.26 | Antiarc | Presumably because its OnMouseDown was never fired. |
| 08:22.46 | [Ammo] | it's more nifty than a simple thing, with the appearing and disappearing drag handle |
| 08:22.49 | [Ammo] | but shrug |
| 08:22.59 | Antiarc | [Ammo]: I have drag handle resizing working already |
| 08:23.08 | Antiarc | Think Blizzard's raid groups |
| 08:23.11 | [Ammo] | ah ok |
| 08:23.14 | Antiarc | Where you drag them out into the field |
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| 08:24.11 | [Ammo] | check how blizz does it |
| 08:26.42 | ZealotOnAStick | ok, since DoTimer still appears to be on crack as regards Banish timers, any of the locks in here have a suggestion for a good dot and banish tracking mod? |
| 08:26.57 | Mech0z_ | (not sure if its the right place to ask but here goes) Anyone here that knows how to get WWS to include pets other than markiing them as pets in the log? |
| 08:27.09 | kebinusan | zeos |
| 08:27.11 | kebinusan | err |
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| 08:27.24 | kebinusan | ZealotOnAStick: I use quartz |
| 08:27.32 | Diao | doesn't quartz or classtimers do it? |
| 08:27.32 | Silviu- | ZealotOnAStick Quartz ;p |
| 08:27.58 | Silviu- | Banish with focus macro and u`r more then fine :) |
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| 08:28.33 | Jaxon | ZealotOnAStick: Chronometer? |
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| 08:31.51 | Fisker- | anyone know if i can take advantage of the lagmeter on quartz without moving to interrupt my spellcast? |
| 08:33.08 | [Ammo] | Fisker-: macro: /stopcasting;/cast IMBADOOM |
| 08:33.28 | [Ammo] | annd don't spam it ;p |
| 08:34.11 | Fisker- | ah |
| 08:36.52 | Bver | i really dont like quartz for timing dots and banishes =\ |
| 08:37.02 | Bver | i prefer chronometer |
| 08:39.10 | kebinusan | bver yeah to each his own, quartz is nice since my banish timer appears right over my focus target |
| 08:39.29 | kebinusan | and as a general rule Im not throwing dots on everything I can in raids because I like living |
| 08:40.09 | kebinusan | bleh I hate trying to do something in php when I suck at coding |
| 08:40.15 | kebinusan | or any language for that matter |
| 08:42.50 | Antiarc | How would I hook all mouseup events temporarily? |
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| 08:44.19 | Adirelle | [Ammo], vhaar: http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=6616.msg109362#msg109362 (please reply there, should you reply) |
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| 08:44.56 | Adirelle | Antiarc: why would you do this ? (smartbuff-like thing ?) |
| 08:45.59 | Antiarc | Adirelle: I'm calling StartMoving() on a frame, but not from its OnMouseDown script, and OnMouseUp seems to never fire on it |
| 08:47.41 | Antiarc | So if I can hook all mouseups I can get rid of it |
| 08:49.54 | Antiarc | Alternately, can I simulate a mousedown on a frame? |
| 08:51.24 | CIA-22 | 03luggy * r39048 10lugMD/locale-deDE.lua: |
| 08:51.24 | CIA-22 | lugMD: |
| 08:51.24 | CIA-22 | - updated German localisation |
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| 08:55.45 | ZealotOnAStick | urgh. |
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| 08:56.31 | Adirelle | hrm... I should change that "disconnect on AFK" behavior |
| 08:56.34 | [Ammo] | Antiarc: check the blizzard drag out code |
| 08:56.39 | ZealotOnAStick | lugMD seems to have almost every core Ace2 lib in it, though it only seems to use a few of them. Also, I can't help but think that it could be done simpler than it is . . . and probably without having to reloadui for those option changes. |
| 08:57.49 | Jaxon | What does it do? |
| 08:58.20 | ZealotOnAStick | it's a misdirection for idiots mod, apparently. |
| 08:58.31 | Jaxon | The toc isn't all that descriptive |
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| 08:58.48 | CIA-22 | 03Leialyn * r39049 10BigWigs/TheEye/Kaelthas.lua: BigWigs: TheEye/Kael'thas: added localization deDE |
| 08:59.15 | CIA-22 | 03scorpio0920 * r39050 10LittleWigs/HellfireCitadel/Broggok.lua: LittleWigs: Tweak trigger for Broggok. |
| 08:59.42 | ZealotOnAStick | replicates the target icons in there (can't those be pulled from the ui files?), has timers for misdirect cooldown, sets the recipient, broadcasts a "misdirection cast on soandso" to a host of channel options. |
| 08:59.47 | Jaxon | http://ace.pastey.net/56460 works great for me for misdirection |
| 09:00.37 | ZealotOnAStick | Our hunters just seem to keep misdirecting onto the wrong tank. |
| 09:00.48 | ZealotOnAStick | one of the things I love BigBrother for. |
| 09:01.07 | [Ammo] | BigBrother, that was the mod I needed to install |
| 09:01.12 | [Ammo] | thanks for reminding me |
| 09:01.37 | Antiarc | [Ammo]: I've trawled through the Bliz code and haven't found anything likely yet. |
| 09:02.02 | Adirelle | what BigBrother does ? |
| 09:02.04 | [Ammo] | it's in the RaidUI addon |
| 09:02.13 | [Ammo] | Adirelle: it's very 1984 |
| 09:02.32 | [Ammo] | keeps track of your performance |
| 09:02.33 | Adirelle | [Ammo] read that book, but what does it "in game" ? |
| 09:02.41 | [Ammo] | buff watch |
| 09:02.45 | [Ammo] | who quaffs what pots etc |
| 09:02.47 | ZealotOnAStick | Adirelle: shows all raid buffs, can report on who's flasked (and with what) and who's not, tells who broke sheep, shows misdirect sources and targets. |
| 09:03.02 | ZealotOnAStick | thought it doesn't seem to pick up the Shattrath Flasks yet. |
| 09:03.10 | Fisker- | 6 down, 5 to go |
| 09:03.10 | Adirelle | "tells who broke sheep" ??? would it work with hunter traps too ? |
| 09:03.14 | Adirelle | need that thing |
| 09:03.29 | Adirelle | [Ammo] no thought on the topic I linked about Violation ? |
| 09:03.30 | ZealotOnAStick | not sure on traps. I know it does on Poly. |
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| 09:06.58 | [Ammo] | Adirelle: you're going for the most complicated solution again :) |
| 09:07.16 | [Ammo] | but I have to drink a bit more coffee to reply properly |
| 09:07.27 | Adirelle | waiting for that |
| 09:08.07 | Adirelle | but please don't reply by "no", I would like an answer like "no, this way is better : blabla" |
| 09:08.21 | [Ammo] | basically: you only need one type of data module |
| 09:08.30 | ausmara | BigBrother is currently bugged :p |
| 09:08.38 | ausmara | Spews some error when you log in. |
| 09:08.47 | [Ammo] | the increment and absolute is overkill I think |
| 09:08.58 | [Ammo] | and I was missing the display module :) |
| 09:09.07 | [Ammo] | all we need is: comm, data, display |
| 09:09.25 | [Ammo] | comm = vio comm, sws comm, dmm comm |
| 09:09.30 | [Ammo] | data = store it somewhere |
| 09:09.35 | [Ammo] | display = display it somehow |
| 09:09.59 | Adirelle | erm |
| 09:10.08 | Adirelle | what will gather data ? |
| 09:10.13 | Adirelle | if data is only "store it" |
| 09:10.21 | [Ammo] | store and collect |
| 09:10.22 | [Ammo] | sorry |
| 09:10.43 | Adirelle | about incremental/absolute, didn't you noticed that lots of code is replicated amongst existing module ? |
| 09:12.23 | Adirelle | if we plan to had something like several datasets (like total / last fight") we would have to replicate all changes amongst all the modules |
| 09:12.30 | Adirelle | s/had/add/ |
| 09:12.30 | [Ammo] | it is, but that can be handled in the modulePrototype |
| 09:12.35 | [Ammo] | which we need to extend |
| 09:12.38 | [Ammo] | it's very barebones atm |
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| 09:12.52 | rophy | Adirelle: I found the problem with ParserLib, it's not Violation's fault so you didnt have to fix it. |
| 09:13.02 | Adirelle | well maybe... we could also handle incremental/absolute data in the bare prototype |
| 09:13.08 | CIA-22 | 03rophy * r39051 10ParserLib/ParserLib-1.1/ParserLib.lua: |
| 09:13.08 | CIA-22 | ParserLib-1.1: |
| 09:13.08 | CIA-22 | - Fix: the behavior for addonID as 'table' and 'string' were reversed. |
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| 09:14.00 | rophy | Adirelle: you'll have to revert the fix to violation (that wasn't really fix), sorry about that. |
| 09:14.16 | [Ammo] | Adirelle: that's what I meant |
| 09:14.40 | [Ammo] | Adirelle: a simple solution is usually best as opposed to a complex structure |
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| 09:15.41 | Adirelle | rophy: ok... though I'll let someone else doing it, I'm at work now and can't test changes I should make |
| 09:15.51 | rophy | I'll do it. |
| 09:15.53 | [Ammo] | just commit drycode :p |
| 09:16.13 | [Ammo] | I already warned users with a revision of when I added multidisplay |
| 09:16.21 | Adirelle | [Ammo] err... after you'll start shouting at me because I broke something... I'm not masochist :p |
| 09:16.25 | [Ammo] | haha |
| 09:16.34 | [Ammo] | I only shout when you break it horribly |
| 09:16.35 | [Ammo] | which reminds me |
| 09:16.38 | [Ammo] | DMM sync is broken :p |
| 09:16.42 | [Ammo] | but it can be turned off |
| 09:17.08 | Adirelle | I must admit DMM sync is kinda "compilable drycode" |
| 09:18.21 | Adirelle | didn't found any volunteer to install DMM and test sync with me :/ |
| 09:18.33 | Fisker- | hey has blizzard reintroduced items to fishing? |
| 09:18.37 | Fisker- | other than "The 1 ring" |
| 09:18.42 | Fisker- | and outside wreckages :o |
| 09:18.49 | Fisker- | just got a green item by fishing |
| 09:19.09 | omega_ | they never removed them, did they? just made it extremly low drop rate? |
| 09:19.45 | Fisker- | http://developersdevelopersdevelopers.dk/WoWScrnShot_060807_111817.jpg |
| 09:20.04 | Fisker- | i thought they removed them because it was very profitable tofish |
| 09:20.19 | omega_ | to me as a norwegian, its extra funny that your name is Fisker and talking about fishing :p |
| 09:20.32 | Adirelle | [Ammo] and about the "complex structure", doing something that look likes "different behavior" by putting "if else" here and there seems to me an OO antipattern |
| 09:20.38 | omega_ | I thought they just nerfed it alot to make it not profitable |
| 09:20.45 | nevcairiel | there is still that vendor fish, which sells for 6 gold Fisker- |
| 09:21.10 | Fisker- | heh |
| 09:21.21 | omega_ | Fisker-: whats the Sigma stuff at the bottom of your item tooltips? |
| 09:21.25 | Adirelle | but I don't know if we can easily subclass modulecore |
| 09:21.36 | nadas | omega_: ratingbuster |
| 09:22.02 | Fisker- | sigma? |
| 09:22.05 | Fisker- | ah |
| 09:22.13 | Fisker- | almost for what sigma is :P |
| 09:22.17 | Adirelle | I meant subclass the "module prototype" created by modulecore |
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| 09:25.33 | CIA-22 | 03rophy * r39052 10Violation/ (9 files in 3 dirs): Violation: revert the previous fix about ParserLib event handler, the bug was at ParserLib's side. |
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| 09:26.22 | CIA-22 | 03Leialyn * r39053 10Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0/NPCModules/ (5 files in 2 dirs): Threat-1.0: deDE update |
| 09:35.33 | Mech0z_ | Anyone know if Loggerhead is still being updated? |
| 09:35.39 | Punkie` | Adirelle: I didn't read all of the conversation, but Violation just "adds" the data recieved by DMM |
| 09:36.07 | Punkie` | If I have done 1000 damage, and someone broadcasts that from DMM too, violation recieves it and says 2000 damage |
| 09:36.40 | Adirelle | rophy: notice that Parser-3.0 compat-layer wasn't bugged, e.g. the interface was inconsitent : one was bugger, the other not :p |
| 09:36.50 | Adirelle | s/bugger/bugged/ |
| 09:37.15 | Leialyn | with sws it seems to work Punkie` ... at least it did yesterday for me beeing the only violation user, rest sws |
| 09:37.34 | Punkie` | Leialyn: I am not talking about SWS though. |
| 09:37.40 | Leialyn | just tellin :> |
| 09:38.08 | Punkie` | but yeah, sws seems to work fine |
| 09:40.05 | Adirelle | Punkie`: it shouldn't but I'll cehck |
| 09:41.07 | Punkie` | Adirelle: It does, or at least close too |
| 09:41.45 | Punkie` | Gruul last night, a mage had DMM and broadcasted it, 4 people suddenly received double damage done :p |
| 09:42.56 | Leialyn | And why doesn't clicking the fubar text show the violation window? Something to do with the multiple windows you can have now? |
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| 09:44.11 | Punkie` | I think so |
| 09:44.31 | [Ammo] | Leialyn: read the forum |
| 09:44.49 | rophy | Adirelle: ya, the compat layer bypassed the place where the bug was at. |
| 09:45.08 | kebinusan | <PROTECTED> |
| 09:45.42 | ZealotOnAStick | kebinusan: an addon, or an alteration to something existing? |
| 09:45.53 | kebinusan | ZealotOnAStick: alteration to getdkp atm |
| 09:46.20 | kebinusan | just working some mojo on the data dkp_list.php pulls down to multiply dkp by your 30 day attendance percentage |
| 09:46.41 | ZealotOnAStick | ahh. I'm probably going to have to attempt some hacking to EQDKP 1.3.2, but all the useful mods for it are listed for much older versions. :( |
| 09:46.53 | kebinusan | ZealotOnAStick: check out eqdkp plus |
| 09:47.02 | kebinusan | its got most of the mods you'd want shoehorned into it |
| 09:47.13 | ZealotOnAStick | Latest version is still based on 1.3.1, isn't it? |
| 09:47.19 | Fisker- | useful mods? |
| 09:47.25 | kebinusan | https://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=167016 |
| 09:47.31 | kebinusan | I think the latest is 1.3.2 |
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| 09:47.35 | Fisker- | I got everything useful i need :o |
| 09:47.38 | Fisker- | in 1.3.2 |
| 09:47.56 | Punkie` | Have you updated to 1.3.2d? |
| 09:47.57 | kebinusan | the attunement tracker is really nice |
| 09:48.03 | kebinusan | and the new raidplanner is decent as well |
| 09:48.48 | Fisker- | there's a 1.3.2d? |
| 09:48.54 | Punkie` | yes |
| 09:48.58 | Punkie` | 5th june |
| 09:49.16 | Punkie` | if you dont have it, your eqdkp probably has an iframe keylogger |
| 09:50.05 | Leialyn | [Ammo] are you responsible for the rest of the violation gui as well? Cause it would be nice if I could change window text, window color transparency and background transparency to fit it into my UI. |
| 09:50.09 | Fisker- | why and how? :o |
| 09:50.17 | [Ammo] | Leialyn: again, read the forums |
| 09:50.28 | Punkie` | there is an SQL injection exploit Fisker- |
| 09:50.35 | Fisker- | sounds like fun |
| 09:50.37 | Punkie` | (again) |
| 09:50.37 | [Ammo] | it's been said over and over and over, first we work out the kinks with the multidisplay, then we'll add options |
| 09:50.52 | [Ammo] | maybe I should just make a big bad splashscreen show every time you login |
| 09:51.04 | Punkie` | will it say |
| 09:51.08 | liquiem | would be neat, i think |
| 09:51.08 | Punkie` | 'YOU HAVE BEEN VIOLATED' ? |
| 09:51.22 | Leialyn | sry [Ammo] ;p |
| 09:51.25 | liquiem | with alpha transition animation and stuff like that |
| 09:51.33 | [Ammo] | Violation is in ALPHA, features will be added slowly, don't whine about them. 'Understand?' [yes] [no] |
| 09:51.39 | [Ammo] | clicking no -> delete whole interface |
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| 09:51.44 | Diao | (no) |
| 09:51.59 | Fisker- | can i check for it Punkie` ? |
| 09:52.05 | Fisker- | if i have it |
| 09:52.10 | Punkie` | Fisker-, no idea |
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| 09:52.23 | Punkie` | try a grep for iframe |
| 09:52.38 | Fisker- | grep -ir "term" /path right? |
| 09:53.11 | Punkie` | I don't know, I don't use linux very much - I just assumed you did :P |
| 09:53.23 | kebinusan | Fisker-: yeah |
| 09:55.22 | [Ammo] | nearly got the rightclick menus in for violation, then I can readd the bar texture options again etc |
| 09:55.22 | Fisker- | there's a couple of iframes |
| 09:55.22 | Fisker- | <PROTECTED> |
| 09:55.22 | Fisker- | hmm? |
| 09:55.22 | Fisker- | but that's in functions.php |
| 09:55.23 | kebinusan | I wish my hosting provider allowed ssh access |
| 09:55.23 | kebinusan | this silly cpanel thing sucks for dirty work |
| 09:55.23 | Fisker- | i wish i had cpanel as it seems to be awesome for making stuff like that |
| 09:55.25 | Fisker- | :P |
| 09:55.28 | Punkie` | Fisker-: That's the everquest support or something |
| 09:55.39 | Fisker- | so no sploitz on me |
| 09:55.49 | Punkie` | great, go update now k? |
| 09:55.50 | Fisker- | just gotta see what we changed in stats and listmembers then :< |
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| 09:56.02 | Fisker- | how do i diff kebinusan? :P |
| 09:56.03 | Punkie` | btw it could be in your mysql database |
| 09:56.07 | Punkie` | so check that too |
| 09:56.21 | kebinusan | diff file1 file2 |
| 09:57.00 | ZealotOnAStick | Grr. I don't suppose there's a version with english docs? |
| 09:57.17 | kebinusan | ZealotOnAStick: of what? |
| 09:57.46 | kebinusan | oh eqdkp_plus |
| 09:58.15 | Fisker- | oh man |
| 09:58.20 | Fisker- | a lot of stuff :< |
| 09:59.07 | kebinusan | Fisker-: yeah my listmembers.php is really custom so I need to download 1.3.2 and the patched files and diff them to find out what I need to change :-( |
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| 09:59.53 | Adirelle | damn it, forgot my SVN password (and lost the mail), and copying Subversion auth files doesn't work :/ |
| 09:59.54 | ZealotOnAStick | eqdkpplus |
| 10:01.23 | kebinusan | ZealotOnAStick: Not really, I relied mostly on google translator for the readme |
| 10:01.24 | kebinusan | heh |
| 10:03.15 | ZealotOnAStick | was afraid of that. And yeah, that latest version is -very- recent, when I looked at it it was before this one. Thanks. |
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| 10:05.33 | Adirelle | Punkie`: got a clue about how DMM spying is broken, but I've got no access to the SVN from here |
| 10:06.28 | kebinusan | ZealotOnAStick: np, if you have any questions I can try to help out Im running it myself |
| 10:08.49 | Fisker- | anyone know if it's safe to use the dkp leaderboard? |
| 10:08.50 | Jaxon | ANyone know how I can get a second instance of WoW running under OSX? |
| 10:08.55 | Jaxon | Google isn't being helpful. |
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| 10:10.38 | xt | Fisker-: we're using it |
| 10:15.03 | sbu | Fisker-: dkp leaderboard? :o |
| 10:15.16 | Fisker- | yeah |
| 10:15.17 | sbu | ah |
| 10:15.19 | sbu | eqdkp mod |
| 10:15.22 | Fisker- | yup |
| 10:15.55 | sbu | no idea ;) we switched from dkp to the epgp system |
| 10:17.05 | kebinusan | I looked at epgp but didnt really grab my interest |
| 10:19.07 | ZealotOnAStick | I'll probably bug you later for some. I'm heading to bed now. |
| 10:21.25 | Donra | I've been trying to write a mod to track guild activity, and as part of that I need to kep a log of when *I* log in and out |
| 10:21.31 | sbu | kebinusan: no? its awesome :o |
| 10:21.55 | Donra | anyone know which events I should hook? :) |
| 10:22.18 | kebinusan | sbu: Yeah, just didnt catch my interest our dkp system is a bit more complex atm |
| 10:22.51 | yacoob | does it involve a dead murloc, five coconuts, and any amount of red snapper? |
| 10:22.55 | sbu | ah okay - we had something like "you get points and bid your points on every item you want" before which sucked |
| 10:24.14 | kebinusan | when I looked at epgp it didnt have good support for mains/alts and such or giving points to people online but not in the raid IIRC |
| 10:26.28 | Mech0z_ | The Freeze that happens when you enter the game in a raid sometimes is that a blizzard bug or ace bug? |
| 10:26.38 | kebinusan | Mech0z_: blizzard thingo |
| 10:26.44 | Mech0z_ | ok |
| 10:26.50 | Mech0z_ | hope its fixed soon :/ |
| 10:27.01 | sbu | kebinusan: ah okay, we dont support main/alt stuff ;) |
| 10:27.13 | Mech0z_ | also my random crashes, but wonder if thats my laptop getting too hot |
| 10:27.58 | kebinusan | there have been quite a few reports of random crashes/lockups especially when alt tabbing and such since 2.1 |
| 10:28.19 | kebinusan | least my guildies complain about it all the time, havent experienced it myself |
| 10:28.32 | liquiem | thats because the patch resets you basemip setting to be "1" again |
| 10:29.07 | liquiem | technical forum has a blue post about the basemip thing |
| 10:29.17 | sbu | basemip causes freezes? :o |
| 10:29.34 | liquiem | nope, but the crashes ^^ |
| 10:29.48 | sbu | ah ;o |
| 10:31.34 | Mech0z_ | You cant detirmine what mod causes a wow crash right ? thats without trying to disable all mods.. |
| 10:31.41 | CIA-22 | 03Firik * r39054 10BunchOfBars/Layout.lua: BunchOfBars: Fixed bug with scaling. |
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| 10:35.59 | wobin | bleh |
| 10:36.02 | wobin | so horrifically tired |
| 10:36.11 | wobin | yet must cook dinner |
| 10:38.30 | wobin | Adirelle: I bet your password is... 1...2....3....4... |
| 10:42.53 | Antiarc | http://i7.tinypic.com/62zss2c.jpg |
| 10:42.57 | Antiarc | Check this hotness. |
| 10:43.12 | evl | NSFW |
| 10:43.24 | Antiarc | Only if you're Kenco |
| 10:43.39 | sbu | bar full = aggro? |
| 10:43.52 | Antiarc | You pull out a bar for anyone you want to watch aggro vs |
| 10:44.00 | Antiarc | Green is my bar, orange is the pet's bar |
| 10:44.10 | Antiarc | Red is the margin, when I fill the bar up, I pull aggro |
| 10:44.18 | sbu | heh |
| 10:44.23 | sbu | yep thats hot :o |
| 10:44.40 | Antiarc | Fully configurable size/textures |
| 10:45.01 | sbu | commit ;o |
| 10:45.08 | Antiarc | Soon! |
| 10:45.08 | Punkie` | Antiarc: I have a suggestion! |
| 10:45.11 | Antiarc | I have a few bugs to iron out |
| 10:45.14 | Antiarc | Punkie`: Let's hear it |
| 10:45.34 | Punkie` | On fights like Gruul etc, as a melee it's pretty hard to see the offtank |
| 10:45.41 | Punkie` | as ranged dont need to worry about him |
| 10:45.58 | Punkie` | can you make it work with MT targets to always display MT or OT etc? |
| 10:46.05 | sbu | oh |
| 10:46.06 | sbu | yes |
| 10:46.07 | sbu | !! :) |
| 10:46.23 | sbu | but a little icon there or something |
| 10:46.24 | Antiarc | Punkie`: You just pick the target you want to watch yourself againt |
| 10:46.34 | Punkie` | I don't mean for the bar |
| 10:46.34 | Antiarc | You just drag it out of the main threat window |
| 10:46.43 | Punkie` | I mean for the main display thingie |
| 10:46.45 | Antiarc | Well, you could drag out a bar to do that |
| 10:46.51 | Antiarc | But I guess you could probably pin one person |
| 10:46.56 | kebinusan | Antiarc: looks sweet |
| 10:47.03 | Punkie` | ah ok |
| 10:47.10 | Punkie` | make us able to do multiple bars! |
| 10:47.12 | Punkie` | <PROTECTED> |
| 10:47.33 | Health | http://www.shoutfile.com/v/2f6vkKma/30_of_Americans_Dont_Know_When_911_Attacks_Occurred |
| 10:47.41 | Antiarc | You can |
| 10:47.45 | Antiarc | You can pull out as many bars as you want |
| 10:47.55 | Punkie` | That's hot |
| 10:48.00 | Punkie` | can I touch you? |
| 10:48.56 | Antiarc | Only once. |
| 10:49.01 | Antiarc | http://i19.tinypic.com/4pn1z83.jpg |
| 10:49.27 | Punkie` | that rules |
| 10:49.31 | Punkie` | commit it dammit! |
| 10:49.35 | Antiarc | Soooon |
| 10:49.37 | Fisker- | omfg |
| 10:49.39 | Fisker- | i came Health |
| 10:49.40 | Antiarc | I have to get the DB persistence working right |
| 10:49.45 | CIA-22 | 03gits * r39055 10Acolyte2/ (36 files in 4 dirs): |
| 10:49.45 | CIA-22 | Acolyte2: initial commit |
| 10:49.45 | CIA-22 | - Small and simple warlock gadget. |
| 10:49.48 | sbu | Antiarc: and it also works for multiple targets, right? |
| 10:50.12 | [Ammo] | small? 36 files? |
| 10:50.15 | [Ammo] | wow |
| 10:50.22 | sbu | Antiarc: so you could pull out your MT for "mob a" and "mob b"? |
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| 10:50.39 | Antiarc | Correct |
| 10:51.15 | Fisker- | I want to be part of the stupid religion |
| 10:51.22 | Ani| | [Ammo]: just some images, only 5 files of code :> |
| 10:51.22 | Ani| | 2([Ammo]2): just some images, only 5 files of code :> |
| 10:52.18 | [Ammo] | hehe |
| 10:52.19 | [Ammo] | ok |
| 10:52.41 | kebinusan | its short, but its got girth! |
| 10:53.14 | Fisker- | How can they even say September 1st? :o |
| 10:53.21 | Fisker- | they think there's 91+ months in a year? |
| 10:53.24 | wobin | Antiarc: In regards to that screenshot |
| 10:53.32 | wobin | will it always tower of hanoi? |
| 10:53.36 | Punkie` | Ani|: Is Acolyte2 yours? :) |
| 10:53.42 | Ani| | yes |
| 10:53.45 | Punkie` | ok |
| 10:53.51 | Antiarc | wobin: Explain? |
| 10:53.53 | Punkie` | for the ritual summoning thing |
| 10:53.57 | Punkie` | its 'tries' :) |
| 10:54.04 | wobin | always having the smaller bar on top |
| 10:54.08 | Ani| | .... >_< |
| 10:54.13 | Ani| | <- native german, sorry xD |
| 10:54.13 | sbu | Ani|: screenshot or it didnt happen :p |
| 10:54.15 | wobin | so you don't overlap and not see what the difference is |
| 10:54.26 | Antiarc | wobin: The bars are partially transparent |
| 10:54.36 | Antiarc | So if you exceed your tank's aggro you can see it behind yours |
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| 10:54.42 | Antiarc | Yours is stacked on top intentionally |
| 10:54.44 | wobin | true, but not quite as easily |
| 10:55.06 | Antiarc | The border also starts glowing when you're in the Danger Zone(TM) |
| 10:55.14 | Antiarc | Just a simple cosine wave function |
| 10:55.20 | wobin | You should stack on length, and borderglow (in contrasting colour) your bar |
| 10:55.33 | wobin | then glow bright on danger zone =) |
| 10:55.34 | Punkie` | Ani|: It's 'which' and 'unknown' too :) |
| 10:55.47 | wobin | so if you're comparing two hunters, you can see |
| 10:55.53 | wobin | etc etc |
| 10:55.54 | Ani| | okok :< |
| 10:56.06 | Punkie` | Ani|: Just helping before the forums moan at you :) |
| 10:56.38 | Ani| | sure, and i'm thank you for this ^^ |
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| 10:58.36 | wobin | Antiarc: hm, could we program in it to always show MT, OT and targets? |
| 10:59.27 | Antiarc | wobin: Sure, just drag out a bar for your MT and OT |
| 10:59.34 | Antiarc | It follows the target of the unit you choose |
| 10:59.43 | wobin | nifty |
| 11:03.14 | Antiarc | When are SharedMediaLib textures guaranteed available? |
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| 11:03.33 | CIA-22 | 03ammo * r39056 10Violation/Violation.lua: |
| 11:03.33 | CIA-22 | Violation: |
| 11:03.33 | CIA-22 | - Toggle windows by clicking on fubar added |
| 11:03.33 | CIA-22 | - Rightclick menu added to windows, only 'lock' and 'show' implemented atm |
| 11:03.33 | CIA-22 | - Windows have menu entries now in the main menu. |
| 11:03.57 | Neebler | prayer of healing needs to be renamed to curaga! |
| 11:03.58 | Fisker- | man |
| 11:04.03 | Fisker- | i'm still fapping to that movie |
| 11:05.25 | Adirelle | wobin: my password was generated by Kaelten, it looks more like q'2e4ae32a3akl |
| 11:06.20 | CIA-22 | 03gits * r39057 10Acolyte2/ (. local/deDE.lua local/enUS.lua): Acolyte2: just typo fixes |
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| 11:07.07 | Ani| | anyone can tell me how to delete the old acolyte from svn? it's outdated etc. |
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| 11:09.10 | Silviu- | Ani| any "screenshot" of it ? ;) |
| 11:09.35 | Ani| | http://deep-existence.com/download/files/acolyte2.jpg |
| 11:10.00 | Silviu- | nice |
| 11:10.15 | Silviu- | [Ammo] so only Violation alone don`t modify the combatlog right ? |
| 11:10.32 | [Ammo] | ? |
| 11:10.40 | Silviu- | [Ammo] increase combatlog range |
| 11:10.55 | [Ammo] | no |
| 11:10.58 | Silviu- | Super |
| 11:11.03 | Silviu- | Redownloding ;) |
| 11:11.25 | Ani| | Silviu-: but it got some things which need to be changed, e.g. you see demon skinn even if you got fel armor... will be fixed soon ^^ |
| 11:11.25 | Ani| | 2(Silviu-2): but it got some things which need to be changed, e.g. you see demon skinn even if you got fel armor... will be fixed soon ^^ |
| 11:11.34 | Health | Nice. |
| 11:12.12 | Silviu- | Now i use ShardAce |
| 11:12.27 | Silviu- | But looking for an replacement soon ;) |
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| 11:19.12 | phyber | anyone else getting errors from Threat-1.0 since yesterday? |
| 11:19.21 | phyber | [2007/06/08 12:17:52-2189-x1]: Omen-2.1r38893\Libs\Threat-1.0\ThreatClassModuleCore.lua:400: attempt to index field 'BuffModifiers' (a nil value) |
| 11:19.26 | phyber | [2007/06/08 12:17:43-2189-x1]: Threat-1.0-39053 (PitBull):277: AceComm-2.0: Cannot set prefix to "Thr", it is already in use. |
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| 11:20.33 | CIA-22 | 03antiarc * r39058 10Omen/ (6 files): |
| 11:20.33 | CIA-22 | Omen: |
| 11:20.33 | CIA-22 | - Fixed the infinite bar problem. |
| 11:20.33 | CIA-22 | - Added self-party threat comparison bars. Just drag a name out of the main display to create a bar; right click the bar to configure. |
| 11:20.38 | Antiarc | phyber: I think that means your disembedded copy is out of date with your embedded copy |
| 11:20.41 | Antiarc | I had that happen to me today too |
| 11:21.05 | phyber | I don't have a disembedded copy. |
| 11:21.20 | phyber | actually, I know what it is. |
| 11:21.30 | CIA-22 | 03antiarc * r39059 10Omen/OmenThreatBar.lua: Omen: Make sure removed bars are nilled in the DB |
| 11:21.48 | Chompers | - Changes to Soulshatter and Feign Death that I hope will address their outstanding issues - yay! |
| 11:22.24 | xt | soulshatter was working for me yesterday I think |
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| 11:23.07 | liquiem | - Changes to Soulshatter and Feign Death that I hope will address their outstanding issues - yay! <-- what changes? dont reset if resisted? ^^ |
| 11:23.08 | Chompers | its quite a task to read the changelog, so many changes |
| 11:23.28 | Ani| | anyone knows how I can delete my old addon from svn? |
| 11:24.19 | Silviu- | svn del |
| 11:24.20 | Silviu- | ? |
| 11:24.21 | kebinusan | soulshatter seemed to be working for me this morning |
| 11:24.27 | CIA-22 | 03helium * r39060 10!!!StandaloneLibraries/!!!StandaloneLibraries.toc: !!!StandaloneLibraries: add zhTW notes |
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| 11:25.12 | CIA-22 | 03helium * r39061 10!BugGrabber/ (!BugGrabber.toc BugGrabber.lua): !BugGrabber: zhTW localization updated |
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| 11:27.55 | Antiarc | So I've gained 6 levels on my hunter just farming worgs to test Omen. |
| 11:27.56 | Antiarc | Oy. |
| 11:28.00 | Silviu- | ;)) |
| 11:28.23 | trh | hehe.. pet aggro wasn't too accurate when i checked few days ago ;) |
| 11:28.52 | trh | (but tbh, i don't care :) |
| 11:29.00 | Silviu- | Antiarc bugs inc :) |
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| 11:29.04 | Antiarc | Pet aggro seems fine here |
| 11:29.09 | trh | Antiarc: do you use a owl? |
| 11:29.10 | Antiarc | Silviu-: I'm going to bed, I'll take care of 'em tomorrow :P |
| 11:29.17 | Antiarc | trh: Wolf right now |
| 11:29.24 | Chompers | night |
| 11:29.33 | trh | Antiarc: i'm guessing the ae screech from the owl doesn't generate the appropriate aggro |
| 11:30.10 | Antiarc | trh: Ah, likely not |
| 11:30.16 | CIA-22 | 03beerke * r39063 10FrameLib-1.0/: |
| 11:30.16 | CIA-22 | FrameLib-1.0: initial commit |
| 11:30.16 | CIA-22 | - A library to make creating frames easier. |
| 11:31.00 | trh | Antiarc: in particular thats why owls rock - the ae screech itself generates enough aggro to hold a second mob while healing a bit |
| 11:31.06 | Antiarc | Nice |
| 11:31.14 | Antiarc | I'll see what I can do to add it in |
| 11:31.19 | Antiarc | But first, I go pass out :) |
| 11:31.24 | Antiarc | It's 4:30 AM and I've been coding all night |
| 11:31.35 | trh | Antiarc: hehe.. get your well-deserved rest =) |
| 11:32.02 | nadas | what? you need sleep? |
| 11:32.17 | nadas | preposterous! |
| 11:32.22 | cs-cam | its not sunday |
| 11:32.32 | Punkie` | Does anyone have the Rogue DPS spreadsheet from rogue.bleedo.net? :) |
| 11:33.36 | nadas | Punkie`: was that ever updated past 2.0.x ? |
| 11:33.44 | evl | I wouldn't use it |
| 11:33.45 | trh | Punkie`: http://209.85.129.104/search?q=cache:PBYIgHnmMzYJ:rogue.bleedo.net/envevis.xls+rogue.bleedo.net&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=2 google cache got it, but doesnt give it as .xls ;) |
| 11:33.48 | evl | Too much old crap in it |
| 11:33.57 | Punkie` | I know, i've never used it before |
| 11:34.00 | Punkie` | I want to check it out |
| 11:34.23 | evl | BEsides, it's biggest feature is cycles and eps and stuff |
| 11:34.39 | evl | hardly something that's actually realistic in TBC fights, you won't be standing stationary pounding out 500k damage |
| 11:34.51 | Punkie` | "just want to check it out" |
| 11:36.47 | evl | did you check the post on EJ |
| 11:36.47 | Punkie` | nadas: 2.2.3 apparently :p |
| 11:36.47 | nadas | Punkie`: i'm too lazy to scan the thread but you'll find the latest version here: http://elitistjerks.com/showthread.php?t=8806 |
| 11:36.47 | nadas | actually, just do a thread search for savefile.com :) |
| 11:36.47 | Punkie` | i might do |
| 11:36.47 | Punkie` | I just read the first and last page |
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| 11:36.48 | Punkie` | since it said "Thank you Bleedo for the new hosting. If his site crashes and burns, I will update filefront/savefile." |
| 11:36.48 | Punkie` | and his site has done exactly that :P |
| 11:37.56 | nadas | http://elitistjerks.com/showpost.php?p=377880&postcount=2020 |
| 11:37.56 | evl | :D |
| 11:37.57 | nadas | there |
| 11:38.18 | Punkie` | thanks for keeping me lazy :) |
| 11:38.21 | Fisker- | oh hi? |
| 11:39.00 | CIA-22 | 03ammo * r39064 10Violation/Violation.lua: Violation: add option to delete windows to their menus |
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| 11:42.09 | CIA-22 | 03beerke * r39065 10FrameLib-1.0/ (. .!!!StandaloneLibraries FrameLib-1.0.lua FrameLib-1.0.toc): FrameLib-1.0: Adding Files |
| 11:43.43 | CIA-22 | 03beerke * r39066 10FrameLib-1.0/ (FrameLib-1.0.lua FrameLib-1.0.toc): FrameLib-1.0: forgot svn keywords |
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| 11:51.21 | Fisker- | Punkie` you use LINNIX? |
| 11:51.21 | Fisker- | (i.e. linux) |
| 11:51.21 | Fisker- | for hosting your site |
| 11:51.21 | wobin | beerke: I don't really get why you abstracted all that out to a library? |
| 11:51.34 | beerke | it is not all yet |
| 11:51.46 | wobin | Cause it just seems like a wrapper at the moment |
| 11:51.55 | wobin | with the same function signatures, basically |
| 11:52.00 | wobin | and the overhead of an extra library |
| 11:52.44 | wobin | and extra table usage |
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| 11:53.08 | wobin | and function calls |
| 11:53.09 | Seyken | Hello all |
| 11:53.37 | wobin | like, SetPoint |
| 11:53.54 | beerke | I find it a convenient and structural way to create frames at the moment. And it is certainly not finished yet. |
| 11:53.58 | wobin | You've just made it use an extra table to get no extra functionality |
| 11:54.26 | wobin | You're still passing in exactly the same variables as the API call |
| 11:54.31 | wobin | but in a table |
| 11:55.09 | Seyken | why are there 4 numbers after the revision number? such as r38277.1004 for Icehud? |
| 11:55.20 | Seyken | little update? |
| 11:55.21 | wobin | I suggest you just use them as functions within your code. Don't abstract out to a library, there's no point. |
| 11:55.33 | beerke | Yes wobin, that is correct. I am not looking into performance and optimalization yet. |
| 11:55.44 | wobin | And that's the problem =\ |
| 11:56.11 | wobin | Just put them in a lua file and add it to your toc |
| 11:56.29 | wobin | I mean, the function masking of the frame creation api, that's all fine |
| 11:56.48 | wobin | but making it a library has no point |
| 11:57.03 | vhaarr | uiQuery is cool, though |
| 11:57.10 | beerke | Cause it is not as optimal yet as you want it to be ? |
| 11:57.16 | vhaarr | not very useful, but very cool |
| 11:57.19 | wobin | Cause it never will be optimal |
| 11:57.43 | Punkie` | Fisker-: No I use windows |
| 11:57.58 | Punkie` | Fisker-: But apache |
| 11:58.48 | Fisker- | fail |
| 11:59.15 | beerke | Is optimalization a requirement for it being a library. I find it convenient to make it in this way and make it accessible for others. It might be not as efficient as default direct calls, but that will never be the case imo |
| 11:59.33 | wobin | I believe that's the problem nowadays. |
| 11:59.39 | wobin | There are far too many useless libraries |
| 11:59.49 | wobin | And just cause it's Ace, doesn't make it better |
| 11:59.50 | evl | Are the cream colored percentages RatingBuster? http://www.mmo-champion.com/images/news/2007/june/arena2_warrior.jpg |
| 11:59.58 | evl | wobin: PitBull comes with 3.4mb of libs :P |
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| 12:00.07 | wobin | in fact, it's going right against the whole philosophy of Ace =( |
| 12:00.14 | wobin | evl: My point. |
| 12:00.35 | evl | wobin: sorry that was with SVN files, 1.8mb |
| 12:00.43 | zanthor | Antiarc around? |
| 12:00.57 | evl | Well imho too much stuff is being added without existing features being stable and optimized. |
| 12:01.13 | wobin | Too much stuff is added that doesn't help anything |
| 12:01.35 | wobin | It's like taking a racing car, and wrapping it in bubblewrap |
| 12:01.37 | beerke | You are almost saying to kill all librarires |
| 12:01.51 | wobin | not at all |
| 12:02.16 | Jaxon | I agree with Wobin, it is excessive. |
| 12:02.27 | evl | I'd take PaintChips, Crayon and some other duplicate libraries as a good example |
| 12:02.28 | beerke | For example, what does PeriodicTable add. I could just add the data i need, and ignore the whole PT library |
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| 12:02.34 | wobin | GloryLib |
| 12:02.42 | CIA-22 | 03ammo * r39068 10Violation/Violation.lua: Violation: add 'use module color' toggle to window menu options |
| 12:02.52 | evl | and Babble, which for anyone that only requires english is 100% bloat :P |
| 12:02.53 | wobin | If onlly one addon uses a library, it's not worth it |
| 12:03.11 | beerke | It has to start somewhere |
| 12:03.14 | beerke | ... |
| 12:03.37 | wobin | beerke: ... |
| 12:03.44 | wobin | you'd go: FL:SetPoint(frame, {relpoint:10, x:399, y:669, point: 333}) |
| 12:03.55 | wobin | and it'd do frame:SetPoint(point, relpoint, x, y) |
| 12:03.57 | kenlyric | at one point, 0 mods used threat lib :) |
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| 12:04.10 | evl | Stuff like loading Tablet for displaying a two column tooltip |
| 12:04.14 | wobin | That's overhead of an extra function, extra table |
| 12:04.22 | wobin | and library |
| 12:04.29 | wobin | for no extra functionality |
| 12:04.41 | beerke | The functionality is convenience |
| 12:04.51 | wobin | no it's not |
| 12:04.56 | beerke | and a structural approach to creating frames |
| 12:05.04 | wobin | There -is- a structural approach |
| 12:05.06 | wobin | it's in the API |
| 12:05.10 | beerke | You tie convenience with performance |
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| 12:05.34 | wobin | I'm trying to make sure that Ace addons are what we originally intended |
| 12:05.38 | wobin | lacking in bloat |
| 12:05.41 | beerke | The API is not consistent in what it does |
| 12:05.50 | wobin | How so, |
| 12:05.54 | vhaarr | What's the problem that FrameLib tries to solve? |
| 12:05.58 | wobin | exactly |
| 12:06.15 | wobin | What is it doing that I can't already do in less lines of code? |
| 12:06.31 | beerke | For example setting tooltips on certain frames happens in a different way for certain frames |
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| 12:06.44 | wobin | The whole point of libraries is to make things more efficient. To reduce code redundancy |
| 12:06.48 | wobin | Not to add code redundancy |
| 12:07.05 | vhaarr | Perhaps it would be possible to fix up uiQuery to deal with the problems FrameLib tries to solve. |
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| 12:07.28 | beerke | Anyways delete the FrameLib from SVN then |
| 12:07.48 | beerke | I'll just include it in my own addon |
| 12:07.54 | beerke | Also |
| 12:08.32 | beerke | if you are so oriented on making libraries having an efficiency goal, i suggest adding it to the wiki to what actually is the intend of libraries |
| 12:09.10 | wobin | Okay. |
| 12:09.17 | beerke | For me, a library abstracts things that potentially many people could or would use, and it should be efficient |
| 12:09.17 | vhaarr | nobody said anything about removing it |
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| 12:09.32 | kenlyric | at least it's in there now :) |
| 12:09.34 | beerke | It is clearly that it is not at this point |
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| 12:09.41 | cladhaire | beerke: But.. a wrapper isn't an abstraction |
| 12:09.53 | CIA-22 | 03ammo * r39069 10Violation/Violation.lua: Violation: add scale option to the window menus. |
| 12:09.59 | beerke | I did not deny it is not yet at that state |
| 12:10.15 | beerke | I clearly said it was not as optimal and efficient |
| 12:10.26 | vhaarr | what are your plans for it? |
| 12:10.28 | beerke | note the mention of overhead of tables and function calls |
| 12:10.52 | cladhaire | its not about optimum and efficiency |
| 12:11.06 | cladhaire | *shrug* |
| 12:11.08 | beerke | My problem with creating dynamic frames was that blizzard does some stuff in way A, and then for another object they use way B |
| 12:11.14 | wobin | Well, I'd say it's about efficient code reuse |
| 12:11.24 | cladhaire | i'll butt out, it really doesn't matter |
| 12:11.32 | cladhaire | I would just like to see a library do something, or abstract something that's difficult |
| 12:11.35 | cladhaire | that's not the case here |
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| 12:11.48 | cladhaire | its just a convenience function which wraps five other function calls and that's great |
| 12:11.58 | vhaarr | beerke: Have you considered fixing up uiQuery to do what you want? |
| 12:12.05 | cladhaire | but it belongs on the user defined functinos on the wowwiki |
| 12:12.05 | cladhaire | not in a library to be included. |
| 12:12.05 | vhaarr | Perhaps it already does. |
| 12:12.09 | beerke | at this point it is |
| 12:12.18 | beerke | 5 fucntion calls yes |
| 12:12.44 | beerke | I never stumbled upon uiQuery, so i am not aware of that |
| 12:13.35 | wobin | http://www.wowace.com/wiki/UiQuery:CoreAPI |
| 12:13.43 | vhaarr | I suggest you take a look, then, it's quite interesting. |
| 12:13.50 | TheKarn | uiQuery is great imo |
| 12:13.57 | wobin | and the subsequent http://www.wowace.com/wiki/UiQuery |
| 12:14.00 | TheKarn | i've not had a reason to use it but its very powerful |
| 12:14.05 | TheKarn | and based off ideas from jQuery |
| 12:14.13 | TheKarn | chaining ftw |
| 12:14.20 | wobin | I think it's Kaelten's, isn't it? |
| 12:14.27 | kenlyric | I don't care much where this discussion goes, just don't break your wonderful King of the Jungle :) |
| 12:14.41 | beerke | For example, as mentioned earlier. Setting a tooltip on a slider just goes with setting .tooltiptext. While doing it on an editbox or checkbox requires you to define the 2 events for setting the tooltip ! |
| 12:14.50 | beerke | We will find a way kenlyric |
| 12:15.37 | kenlyric | oddly enough, it seemed to work just fine without framelib, except for the lib missing error it fired on load. |
| 12:15.44 | TheKarn | yeah it is Kealtens |
| 12:17.51 | beerke | Anyways, as mentioned earlier, someone please delete FrameLib and FrameLib-1.0 from the SVN, cause i don't know how to do it. And i'll just fix the rest within my own addon |
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| 12:18.17 | vhaarr | Why did you make two directories anyway? |
| 12:18.39 | vhaarr | svn delete http://dev.wowace.com/wowace/trunk/FrameLib -m "FrameLib: Removed." |
| 12:18.49 | vhaarr | that should do it |
| 12:20.04 | Boubouille | [13:59:34] <evl> Are the cream colored percentages RatingBuster? http://www.mmo-champion.com/images/news/2007/june/arena2_warrior.jpg |
| 12:20.05 | Boubouille | yes |
| 12:20.18 | Boubouille | will post something about it later, people keep asking what this mod is :/ |
| 12:20.21 | evl | Boubouille_: thanks :) |
| 12:20.40 | beerke | The second directory was made after some mistakes with correctly setting up the library. |
| 12:21.04 | CIA-22 | 03rabbit * r39070 10FrameLib/: FrameLib: Removed by authors request. |
| 12:21.11 | beerke | thank you rabbit |
| 12:21.17 | CIA-22 | 03rabbit * r39071 10FrameLib-1.0/: FrameLib-1.0: Removed by authors request. |
| 12:21.18 | beerke | i'll give you a carrot |
| 12:21.23 | vhaarr | no problem |
| 12:22.11 | evl | Ugh,. two more libraries with RatingBuster |
| 12:22.15 | evl | I don't like libs anymore |
| 12:22.18 | kenlyric | ug, I really hope I don't get done with these undead quests and end up at 19000/21000 rep. |
| 12:22.24 | Fisker- | btw can i easily delete all my violation windows? |
| 12:22.38 | beerke | Still, the problem exists, or vagueness, to what and why libraries are for, and when they should be added or not. It is easy to discuss and resolve the issue with me. But for somo dev not on irc it might be harder to communicate |
| 12:22.40 | kenlyric | wait, violation windows? |
| 12:22.44 | wobin | kenlyric: it'll end up 20999/21000 |
| 12:22.58 | wobin | beerke: I'm looking to find a suitable page on the wiki |
| 12:23.05 | kenlyric | but but but, I don't WANT to ride a chicken! |
| 12:23.31 | vhaarr | kenlyric: Cloth turnins. |
| 12:23.54 | kenlyric | yeah, but the repeatable one isn't available until 50. |
| 12:24.00 | Fisker- | http://www.developersdevelopersdevelopers.dk/WoWScrnShot_060807_142252.jpg <-lets just say i'm doing it wrong |
| 12:24.14 | kenlyric | I got my darnassus kitty at level 49, I want to have my undead horse by 40. |
| 12:24.18 | wobin | You're doing it wrong, perhaps. |
| 12:24.32 | wobin | blood elves have the worst racial mount |
| 12:24.33 | kenlyric | violation windows *huggles* |
| 12:24.37 | wobin | it's like they're giant gnomes |
| 12:24.40 | kebinusan | Fisker-: I guess that would depend on what you're trying to accomplish |
| 12:24.48 | vhaarr | Fisker-: rofl |
| 12:25.17 | kenlyric | I still can't decide if I want an undead horse, a kodo, or a raptor. Undead just seemed easier since you start out on better terms with them. |
| 12:25.18 | Fisker- | i like how it had like zero effect on performance |
| 12:26.00 | wobin | kodo! |
| 12:26.20 | Fisker- | But i think someone should probably make a delete all button :z |
| 12:26.27 | wobin | I'd suggest spacegoat, but you're a few levels short of grinding for it |
| 12:26.42 | kenlyric | I now have 14 icons on my fubar which are primarily used to drive settings on those mods. |
| 12:27.01 | wobin | kenlyric: and they're all 'moonfire' |
| 12:27.32 | wobin | oh fubar |
| 12:27.32 | kenlyric | some of them have hide, and some of them don't, so I just keep them all visible. |
| 12:27.40 | kebinusan | ~hypnotoad |
| 12:28.23 | purl | All glory to the hypnotoad! CLAP. CLAP. |
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| 12:28.23 | wobin | *clapclap* |
| 12:28.23 | kenlyric | CLAP CLAP |
| 12:28.23 | kebinusan | <PROTECTED> |
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| 12:30.19 | kenlyric | waterfall is the lib... what is the mod that uses it to handle settings for other mods? |
| 12:30.25 | kenlyric | I know it's waterfall related. |
| 12:30.30 | Zurks | Niagara |
| 12:30.38 | kenlyric | thanks |
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| 12:33.10 | Hjalte | Does anyone know how to turn off the annoying icon in my lower right corner telling me, that my computer 'might' be in danger because i have automatic updates off? |
| 12:33.48 | Boubouille | Hjalte : you're in danger and don't care about it ? wtf ? |
| 12:33.55 | Boubouille | are you crazy ? :( |
| 12:33.56 | beerke | turn automatic updates on ... |
| 12:34.10 | Boubouille | (yes, or deactivate everything in the security center) |
| 12:34.15 | beerke | but i guess that is not the answer you are looking for |
| 12:34.28 | kenlyric | that is the answer you're looking for. |
| 12:34.35 | [dRaCo] | turn the icon off. |
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| 12:35.07 | anenigma | wait wait! install linux! aha, most useless answer |
| 12:35.13 | kebinusan | tape |
| 12:35.22 | Hjalte | [dRaCo], I don't see any option to turn the icon off :) |
| 12:35.39 | TheKarn | you can disable the security center service |
| 12:35.42 | CIA-22 | 03ammo * r39072 10Violation/Violation.lua: Violation: add color settings to the window menu |
| 12:36.03 | Hjalte | TheKarn, i use the firewall. Will it be off too then? |
