| 00:00.00 | Kalman| | trh: What function allows you to pull enemy spellpower/dot spellpower? |
| 00:00.05 | hypetech | bah, grid changed to shape itself dynamically even in 40-man raid layout, how can I make it stay at the size as if the raid was full? |
| 00:00.14 | trh | Kalman|: you can select the values to display in the CharacterFrame |
| 00:00.16 | CIA-22 | 03sylvanaar * r40775 10ACP/ACP.lua: ACP: Finally have a sort mode that works sorta like i want |
| 00:00.18 | JoshBorke | yes, you'd be correct because there is a MOVE call before it can evaluate the getglobal(test) |
| 00:00.21 | trh | Kalman|: so the ui has to got a function :) |
| 00:00.32 | kergoth | hyperChipmunk, and regarding item quality, i want to send ore to my jc, but i dont want to send him green ore. |
| 00:00.35 | JoshBorke | and it double calls |
| 00:00.36 | Kalman| | trh: I can see what I'm wearing. Doesn't mean I can see what someone else is wearing? |
| 00:00.41 | Kalman| | Or do you mean only your own DoTs? |
| 00:00.46 | hyperChipmunk | kergoth: there's only two green ore! |
| 00:00.47 | trh | Kalman|: only your own |
| 00:00.54 | hyperChipmunk | make them excludes, you lazy punk |
| 00:00.56 | trh | Kalman|: so you can see if the bastards gonna die from it |
| 00:01.08 | Kalman| | Ahhh. Yeah, that'd seem doable. I was thinking seeing if *you* were gonna die from the bastard's dots. :p |
| 00:01.18 | kergoth | i can think of 4 green ore off the top of my head. |
| 00:01.21 | kergoth | but okay, i will |
| 00:01.24 | trh | Kalman|: hehe.. that's something i feel ;) |
| 00:02.45 | trh | Kalman|: but it'd probably have to use mobhealth or sth. :) |
| 00:02.57 | trh | Kalman|: as other players hp aren't in the ui |
| 00:03.22 | Kalman| | trh: Yeah. doable though. |
| 00:03.39 | trh | Kalman|: guess it'd be a nice feature for dotdotdot :) |
| 00:04.07 | Kalman| | trh: Totally outside the scope, tbh. |
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| 00:10.35 | hyperChipmunk | a = os.time() for i=1,10000000 do print(foo) end print(os.time() - a) --> 46 |
| 00:10.40 | Mikk | Interesting. 500M executions of "_G.a=_G.b" vs "a=b": 62s vs 74s. |
| 00:10.41 | Adirelle | Antiarc|Work: ping ? |
| 00:10.48 | hyperChipmunk | a = os.time() for i=1,10000000 do print(_G.foo) end print(os.time() - a) --> 47 |
| 00:10.51 | Mikk | (Yeah the _G approach is slightly faster) |
| 00:11.07 | Mikk | hyperChipmunk: your print is eating too much of your time |
| 00:11.33 | Adirelle | nvm, gotta sleep |
| 00:11.36 | Adirelle | night |
| 00:11.48 | hyperChipmunk | yea, prolly |
| 00:12.01 | hyperChipmunk | but that's what we were debating in the chan, so i went with it |
| 00:12.17 | Velkyn | Another noob question for the wizzies who frequent the channel: Has anyone had or heard of VirusProtection programs triggering from the WoW downloader.exe files? |
| 00:12.29 | Mikk | has to be because GETGLOBAL has to detour via a lookup of what your current fenv is |
| 00:12.38 | hyperChipmunk | wizzies don't use sissy virus protection programs |
| 00:12.53 | NightHawkTheSane | no, they use linux or macs. :P |
| 00:12.59 | hyperChipmunk | exactly |
| 00:13.12 | ckknight | woo, layouts! |
| 00:13.18 | Mikk | Velkyn: yes, false positive, confirmed by blue |
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| 00:13.37 | Mikk | Velkyn: New versions of the antivirus programs have been released by some vendors, that fix the false positive |
| 00:13.38 | liquiem | it's just warden, dont worry ;) |
| 00:13.54 | sylvanaar | warden is a virus |
| 00:14.01 | Mikk | then again, the drawback of hardcoding _G = getfenv(0) is that it's impossible to wrap your functions in fake envs |
| 00:14.05 | Velkyn | I usually wouldn't worry, but been getting that in-game crap from the devs about "key-loggers" and what not. |
| 00:14.12 | Mikk | not that you do that a lot in wow |
| 00:14.13 | Mikk | but .. yeah, there it is |
| 00:14.20 | Velkyn | If I wanted to make a slick virus, I would have the mod replace the downloader.exe file |
| 00:14.31 | Velkyn | Cause most people will prolly trust that file, thinking its from Blizzard. |
| 00:14.33 | Mikk | mods can't do that thank god |
| 00:14.34 | Mikk | they're sandboxed |
| 00:14.41 | Velkyn | Shows what I know :) |
| 00:14.54 | anholt | of those using linux here for wow, what vendor do you use for graphics, and how has driver reliability been? |
| 00:15.00 | Velkyn | Hence the reason I asking stupid questions in the IRC-Channel! |
| 00:15.12 | Mikk | (tho most sandboxes have been shown to have a hole or two... who knows when a few wow ones will be discovered :P ) |
| 00:15.20 | liquiem | anholt, my bet is 97% nvidia ;) |
| 00:15.22 | sylvanaar | hrm, actually i dont konw how to classify warden...its virus-like |
| 00:15.41 | Tain | You pretty much have to use nVidia, anholt. |
| 00:15.45 | Mikk | yeah, warden goes digging deep in the APIs to catch nasty stuff trying to hide |
| 00:15.46 | Tain | The ATI drivers are nowhere near as good. |
| 00:15.56 | NightHawkTheSane | Mikk: well, the one that allows mods to crash out wow is a pretty nice hole ;) |
| 00:15.58 | Mikk | exactly the kind of deep digging that viruses and trojans like to do |
| 00:16.08 | anholt | the system I'm getting in a few days is nvidia, but was wondering how people enjoyed wow through wine. |
| 00:16.12 | Mikk | NightHawkTheSane: True. But not "exploitable" as such ;) |
| 00:16.21 | NightHawkTheSane | Mikk: no, but still a hole in the sandbox |
| 00:16.37 | Mikk | anholt: people i know have actually gotten better speeds in wine |
| 00:16.57 | Mikk | OpenGL ftw? |
| 00:16.58 | hyperChipmunk | nvidia, rock solid |
| 00:17.29 | Mikk | my nvidia craps out all the time. starts combining vertexes from bloody all over the world, looks like i'm flying through a 3d razor field |
| 00:17.30 | sylvanaar | perhaps 'worm' is more correct |
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| 00:17.40 | Mikk | need to reset video to get it back, and then it only stays ok until i move to a new area |
| 00:18.04 | Mikk | then again my old nvidia was ok, and my gf's nvidia is ok |
| 00:18.04 | hyperChipmunk | prolly you suck then |
| 00:18.08 | Mikk | must just be this card |
| 00:18.09 | Mikk | hyperChipmunk: or that |
| 00:18.44 | liquiem | sylvanaar, warden is rootkit, virus, worm and trojan in one.. combines all those types |
| 00:18.44 | Mikk | funnily, it tends to bug out less in the old world. more in outland. |
| 00:19.10 | Mikk | liquiem: hardly worm nor virus. it doesn't spread. but rootkit and trojan.. hell yeah =) |
| 00:19.14 | Tain | Warden is none of them. It's simply a monitor. |
| 00:19.15 | Velkyn | I think they really changed some of the basics of how the handle things in the Outland. |
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| 00:19.37 | Mikk | graphical elements certainly seem to be differently constructed |
| 00:19.42 | Velkyn | Most people I know lose 5-10 frames between OldWorld and OutLands. |
| 00:19.47 | sylvanaar | in a blender, since each copy of it is unique i believe |
| 00:19.50 | Mikk | well, that's just the added complexity |
| 00:20.01 | Velkyn | Yeah, I think they used a higher grpahical std. |
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| 00:20.33 | Velkyn | I do know several people with 7600's that were getting HORRIBLE tearing and such, post 2.1 |
| 00:20.35 | Mikk | the ground always draws ok for me. buildings nearly always ok. but trees, fences, and other repeating elements bug out like hell |
| 00:20.42 | kenlyric | more polygons or some junk. I remember that about the blood elf/draenei models. |
| 00:20.43 | Mikk | it starts connecting verticies from identical objects from afar |
| 00:20.57 | Velkyn | What card? |
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| 00:21.09 | Mikk | 7600GS |
| 00:21.13 | Velkyn | Yep :) |
| 00:21.22 | Mikk | bad buy? |
| 00:21.24 | Velkyn | Did it get better with the patch before this one? |
| 00:21.38 | Mikk | a little |
| 00:21.39 | Mikk | didn't fix it |
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| 00:21.48 | Velkyn | No, I really like the 7600's but something Bliz did in 2.1 really pissed off some of the 7600's and didnt affect others. |
| 00:21.49 | trh | Mikk: i get that too, but only if i'm playing a video on my 2nd screen |
| 00:22.11 | Mikk | i just fiddle with a video setting to reset video and it'll behave for a little again |
| 00:22.23 | Velkyn | Mikk: Are you using Manu drivers or the ones traight from Nvidia? The card isnt a BFG by chance? |
| 00:22.44 | Mikk | straight nvidia drivers |
| 00:22.49 | Mikk | and wth is bfg? :P |
| 00:22.59 | Mikk | The only BFG i know is Big Fucking Gun from doom :P |
| 00:23.12 | Mikk | Says "Zero edition" on the box |
| 00:23.18 | Velkyn | Mikk: I think they stole their name from there for sure. |
| 00:23.21 | Thorgard | They're video chipset resellers too. ;P |
| 00:23.42 | Mikk | Ah.. no, it's an MSI |
| 00:23.45 | Velkyn | Mikk: Its a lower end graphics card company, what they do is offer like... a 8800 with lots of mem |
| 00:23.57 | Velkyn | Mikk: But the bus speeds etc etc, construction, etc is all cheap crap |
| 00:24.10 | Mikk | oho |
| 00:24.18 | Velkyn | Mikk: So from the basic numbers it appears to be a great card for the money, but its not.. see them a lot at BestBuy and what not. |
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| 00:25.01 | Mikk | my local vendor is MSI all the way so whatever I buy from them tends to be MSI something |
| 00:25.02 | ckknight | okay, so I need a box to pop up which people can copy from? Anyone have any ideas on where to start? it'd need to be multi-line |
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| 00:25.14 | hyperChipmunk | install prat |
| 00:25.16 | hyperChipmunk | =P |
| 00:25.19 | Funkeh` | ckknight: rip prats one |
| 00:25.24 | hyperChipmunk | prat or bugsack |
| 00:25.32 | ckknight | I was thinking BugSack |
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| 00:25.56 | Mikk | well.. just popping up a multiline edit control is no biggie |
| 00:26.10 | hyperChipmunk | yea, but it ought to be read-only |
| 00:26.12 | Mikk | you won't get scrollbars and stuff but |
| 00:26.14 | hyperChipmunk | like bugsack's |
| 00:26.23 | Mikk | you really only want select all & copy |
| 00:26.29 | Funkeh` | ckknight: http://svn.wowace.com/wowace/trunk/Prat/Prat_Modules/modules/CopyChat.lua |
| 00:26.30 | ckknight | well, there's actually two parts |
| 00:26.35 | ckknight | I need one that allows you to copy from |
| 00:26.39 | ckknight | and one that allows you to paste into |
| 00:26.40 | Mikk | well.. paste too |
| 00:26.44 | Mikk | still don't really need the scrollbar tho |
| 00:26.47 | ckknight | true. |
| 00:26.48 | hyperChipmunk | why would you have both a select all and a copy? |
| 00:26.56 | hyperChipmunk | if those are the only two |
| 00:26.58 | Kemayo | Hmm. AVG feels that the patch downloader is a Trojan. I suspect false positives. |
| 00:26.59 | hyperChipmunk | just a copy will work |
| 00:27.11 | Velkyn | Mikk: Let me sniff around a bit, I know several people in guild had problems with their 7600's.. I'll be back |
| 00:27.24 | ckknight | basically, I want users to be able to copy their layouts, paste on the forum, then someone else be able to copy that, paste it ingame |
| 00:27.29 | Funkeh` | Kemayo: http://forums.wow-europe.com/thread.html?topicId=296371410&sid=1 |
| 00:27.49 | Funkeh` | ckknight: what exactly are you coding? |
| 00:27.53 | Mikk | just pop up a window with a plain multiline editbox tbh. |
| 00:28.00 | Mikk | doesn't even need to display more than a few lines |
| 00:28.04 | ckknight | Funkeh`: layout system for PitBull |
| 00:28.12 | Funkeh` | right |
| 00:28.20 | CIA-22 | 03sylvanaar * r40776 10Prat/filelist.wau: Prat: Can stop LoD'ing the libs directory now |
| 00:28.24 | hyperChipmunk | have an export read-only with a copy button (assuming you can do clipboard copy through the api) |
| 00:28.57 | Mikk | purl, botmail for Velkyn: Sorry, I needed to get some sleep. But if you found something interesting, please /msg it to me - i'll read it when I wake up. Cheers :-) |
| 00:29.04 | hyperChipmunk | then import be a witable area with a title (if it isn't part of the import) line and a box to paste to, and an import button |
| 00:29.18 | ckknight | oh dang, it should have a title in the layout... |
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| 00:29.45 | Mikk | hyperChipmunk: you can't control clipboard from api. it needs to be manual |
| 00:29.49 | hyperChipmunk | that's kinda important =P |
| 00:29.54 | hyperChipmunk | then pop it up with it all selected |
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| 00:30.13 | hyperChipmunk | and say to use ctrl-c to copy to clipboard |
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| 00:32.14 | Kemayo | Funkeh`: If only that link would actually load. |
| 00:32.38 | Funkeh` | Kemayo: to sum it up, update your AV |
| 00:33.27 | Kemayo | Funkeh`: Alas, for it was updated a mere 10 minutes ago. |
| 00:33.30 | Funkeh` | Kemayo: acutally it says 'no fix yet' for AVG, i suppose all those times you thought about getting a rel AV but didn't feel like it come and bite you in the ass :D |
| 00:33.42 | Kemayo | :P |
| 00:34.07 | Funkeh` | nod32 <3 |
| 00:34.19 | Lywellyn|Away | So.....was 2.1.2 released today? :D :D |
| 00:34.25 | Funkeh` | yes |
| 00:34.33 | Lywellyn|Away | w00t |
| 00:34.40 | Lywellyn|Away | I can update to the REAL version of Pitbull. XD |
| 00:34.53 | Funkeh` | oh happy days |
| 00:35.11 | sbu | hm |
| 00:35.27 | sbu | never had any problems with latest pitbull + 2.1.1 :p |
| 00:36.24 | Lywellyn|Away | I didn't want to try. Had too much freezing with agUF + BGs, so I just immediately took his recommendation of using 39408 |
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| 00:37.11 | sylvanaar | prat uses the same box bugsack does |
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| 00:37.20 | Funkeh` | haha |
| 00:39.54 | trh | is it possible to move baggin's bags? |
| 00:40.04 | hyperChipmunk | uncheck bulkmail |
| 00:40.04 | trh | ah.. found it |
| 00:40.06 | hyperChipmunk | mis |
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| 00:43.11 | Peoii | ckknight: PitBull_RaidTargetIcon\RaidTargetIcon.lua:63: Bad argument #2 to `newFrame'. table expected, got nil |
| 00:43.30 | ckknight | did you update fully? |
| 00:43.34 | Peoii | yup |
| 00:43.38 | ckknight | okay |
| 00:43.41 | Peoii | deleted and got a fresh copy |
| 00:43.41 | ckknight | how to reproduce? |
| 00:43.44 | kenlyric | anyone know if there is a way to give priority to categories in baggins? for instance, when you have it hide duplicate items, have it prefer certain categories? |
| 00:43.55 | Peoii | Happens everytime a raid icon is assigned when I'm in a raid. |
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| 00:45.01 | ckknight | hrm. |
| 00:45.05 | ckknight | craptacular |
| 00:45.09 | CIA-22 | 03funkydude * r40777 10Enigma/: Enigma: fix externals |
| 00:46.30 | CIA-22 | 03kalman * r40778 10DotDotDot/Core.lua: |
| 00:46.30 | CIA-22 | DotDotDot: Fixed-time DoT monitor |
| 00:46.30 | CIA-22 | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:46.51 | CIA-22 | 03funkydude * r40779 10FlexBar2/ (. Libs/): FlexBar2: fix externals |
| 00:47.17 | ckknight | can't reproduce :-( |
| 00:47.34 | Peoii | hrm, weird... |
| 00:48.38 | [Liquidor] | :-( @ ckknight |
| 00:49.45 | CIA-22 | 03hyperactiveChipmunk * r40780 10BulkMail2/BulkMailFu.lua: |
| 00:49.45 | CIA-22 | BulkMail2: |
| 00:49.45 | CIA-22 | - restored missing menu items to the fubar plugin; still can't figure out how to hide one "About" menu item without removing all three of them |
| 00:49.50 | hyperChipmunk | Galka: try that |
| 00:50.27 | CIA-22 | 03cwdg * r40781 10ag_UnitFrames/locales/ag_UnitFrames-zhCN.lua: |
| 00:50.27 | CIA-22 | ag_UnitFrames: |
| 00:50.27 | CIA-22 | -fix zhCN local bug |
| 00:51.00 | Funkeh` | its locale not local ffs |
| 00:51.03 | CIA-22 | 03gagorian * r40782 10DrDamage/ (Data/Warlock.lua DrDamage.lua): |
| 00:51.03 | CIA-22 | DrDamage: |
| 00:51.03 | CIA-22 | - More optimization to aura updates |
| 00:51.03 | CIA-22 | - A few bugfixes due to last optimization changes |
| 00:51.03 | CIA-22 | - Added howl of terror to soul siphon effects |
| 00:56.41 | ckknight | Gagorian: optimizations yay! |
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| 00:58.15 | Gagorian | ckknight: Indeed. It's getting pretty polished now! |
| 00:58.24 | CIA-22 | 03beerke * r40783 10KingOfTheJungle/KingOfTheJungle.lua: |
| 00:58.25 | CIA-22 | KingOfTheJungle : |
| 00:58.25 | CIA-22 | - Fixed some texture issues |
| 00:58.38 | ckknight | Gagorian: pantsworthy, one would say |
| 00:58.57 | Gagorian | 11000 actionbar updates creates a few kB of garbage according to Expo |
| 00:59.03 | Gagorian | That's 4 hours of raiding |
| 00:59.30 | hyperChipmunk | Gagorian is instructing me in the way of the Table Recycle. |
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| 01:02.10 | Gagorian | Kael'thas is such a disappointment after 50% :( |
| 01:02.24 | Gagorian | He just falls over |
| 01:03.15 | kenlyric | I fell your pain. |
| 01:03.20 | kenlyric | let me find my tiny violin. |
| 01:03.55 | hyperChipmunk | haha |
| 01:04.09 | CIA-22 | 03bam * r40784 10ItemPriceTooltip/embeds.xml: |
| 01:04.09 | CIA-22 | ItemPriceTooltip: |
| 01:04.09 | CIA-22 | - Setting back svn:keywords properties. (In the future please use 'svn move' to preserve properties automatically!) |
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| 01:06.59 | kenlyric | hmmmm |
| 01:07.10 | kenlyric | what is it? |
| 01:07.36 | Funkeh` | servers down for eu at last |
| 01:07.40 | [Liquidor] | Haha this is freakin hilarious: http://www.break.com/index/did-you-just-check-her-out.html |
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| 01:07.45 | Funkeh` | i presume US ones are up already |
| 01:08.02 | Funkeh` | ckknight: you can remove the pitbull startup message |
| 01:08.19 | ckknight | it should be gone... |
| 01:08.25 | ckknight | yea, it's gone for me |
| 01:08.25 | Funkeh` | ok |
| 01:08.28 | ckknight | I'll remove the code |
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| 01:09.03 | CIA-22 | 03funkydude * r40785 10Enigma/: Enigma: externals fix #2 |
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| 01:35.00 | aen` | they removed attunements? |
| 01:35.20 | Keias | to SSC and TK |
| 01:35.21 | Gagorian | Yar. GG for all those useful attunement scrolls from Vashj/Kael'thas |
| 01:36.37 | Funkeh` | i guess they have been removed from the game? |
| 01:38.39 | Gagorian | Dunno, will see after server comes up. At least hopefully they wont drop anymore! |
| 01:38.55 | Gagorian | But wouldn't surprise me much if they did :P |
| 01:39.10 | Funkeh` | selling them did't work |
| 01:39.14 | Funkeh` | didn't* |
| 01:39.23 | Funkeh` | so my guildies use dthem on random shattrath folks |
| 01:39.50 | NightHawkTheSane | The attunement quests are still there |
| 01:40.01 | NightHawkTheSane | if thats what you're referring to |
| 01:40.11 | Funkeh` | im reffering tot he scrolls |
| 01:40.14 | Funkeh` | the* |
| 01:40.18 | Funkeh` | how can you sell quests |
| 01:40.26 | Funkeh` | and use them on random shattrath folk |
| 01:40.33 | NightHawkTheSane | oh, meh, i wasn't really paying attention to what you were saying :P |
| 01:40.43 | Funkeh` | you fail at life, again |
| 01:41.00 | NightHawkTheSane | i always do |
| 01:41.05 | Funkeh` | :p |
| 01:41.09 | CIA-22 | 03antiarc * r40787 10Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0/ClassModules/Pet.lua: |
| 01:41.09 | CIA-22 | Threat-1.0: Changed the pet scaling formula. New formula for scaling skills uses |
| 01:41.09 | CIA-22 | (skill threat + creature level) as the scaling threshold, and scaling is done at |
| 01:41.09 | CIA-22 | all levels. This correctly addresses outlying cases like charge + growl, in |
| 01:41.09 | CIA-22 | addition to the common case, at all levels. |
| 01:41.28 | Funkeh` | YES |
| 01:41.34 | Funkeh` | thats means priests next, right? |
| 01:41.46 | Antiarc | Yes :P |
| 01:42.14 | Gagorian | Antiarc: Pro. Where did you get the data from? |
| 01:42.16 | Funkeh` | damn those lowbies hogging the spotlight |
| 01:42.16 | Gagorian | Tested? |
| 01:43.37 | Antiarc | Gagorian: Yes, took about four days. |
| 01:43.46 | Antiarc | Tested with a 30 hunter, 21 lock, and 2 70 hunters :P |
| 01:44.00 | Antiarc | It's accurate down to the point. |
| 01:44.08 | Antiarc | I'll bet it's damn close to Blizzard's actual formula. |
| 01:44.27 | Gagorian | Hah. *claps* |
| 01:45.08 | ckknight | Antiarc: but it's different from KTM, therefore, wrong. |
| 01:45.14 | Funkeh` | lol |
| 01:45.20 | aen` | the quests are still there for attunement, but there is no more attunement |
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| 01:47.46 | kenlyric | threat seems to dislike pets called in combat. |
| 01:47.57 | Antiarc | I've noticed that. |
| 01:48.22 | kenlyric | KotJ also seems to dislike pets. Which is more disturbing, somehow. |
| 01:49.50 | Antiarc | KotJ? |
| 01:50.40 | Funkeh` | kill on the juice |
| 01:51.10 | kenlyric | king of the jungle |
| 01:51.18 | kenlyric | pet feeding mod |
| 01:51.24 | Antiarc | Ah |
| 01:51.29 | Antiarc | Thing is - |
| 01:51.34 | Antiarc | Threat picks up the Shadowfiend just fine |
| 01:51.42 | Antiarc | So I don't know why hunter pets are different |
| 01:51.51 | Peoii | They can be named? |
| 01:52.16 | Peoii | who knows. |
| 01:52.26 | kenlyric | I got an error on both my hunter pet and my priest. Let me see if I can find it. |
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| 01:52.53 | Antiarc | kenlyric: Yeah, solved already :) |
| 01:53.02 | Antiarc | Invalid table to pairs, blah blah |
| 01:53.45 | kenlyric | 40787, or an upcoming one? |
| 01:53.50 | JoshBorke | nn |
| 01:54.06 | Antiarc | That one |
| 01:56.17 | aen` | ckknight: is there a way to display on mana bar only in raid fraems? |
| 01:56.28 | ckknight | yes. |
| 01:56.49 | aen` | it doesnt have a disable option |
| 01:56.57 | aen` | for health bar |
| 01:57.08 | ckknight | I added that. |
| 01:57.16 | ckknight | yesterday |
| 01:57.16 | aen` | oh a new release today? |
| 01:57.18 | aen` | oh |
| 01:57.21 | aen` | im scared to update |
| 01:57.25 | aen` | sv breaking, etc |
| 01:59.23 | aen` | what do i need to change again? |
| 01:59.37 | aen` | to keep svs? |
| 02:01.27 | aen` | ckknight: also, are u going to add a header text field for groups on flat layout? |
| 02:01.40 | CIA-22 | 03funkydude * r40788 10Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0/NPCModules/CoilfangReservoir/SerpentshrineCavern/Vashj.lua: Threat-1.0: Vashj module: clear threat at phase 2 & 3 |
| 02:02.04 | ckknight | aen`: that's there in config mode |
| 02:02.43 | raider|poul | gonna be fun to see where it vent wronge along the road with the pvp mounts :) |
| 02:03.13 | Gagorian | ckknight: Make Bucketed events work with multiple args. Yes, you. And no. Alright? :O |
| 02:03.28 | ckknight | Gagorian: sorry, no, too complex |
| 02:03.35 | ckknight | and too memory-intensive |
| 02:03.43 | ckknight | as it would need 2 levels of tables |
| 02:03.47 | ckknight | which bloats, imho |
| 02:03.51 | ckknight | Gagorian: why do you need it? |
| 02:04.04 | Gagorian | For SEA targetaura changes |
| 02:04.11 | Gagorian | well.. Unitaura |
| 02:04.17 | Gagorian | I need unitname and buffname |
| 02:04.48 | Gagorian | How about, two tables with indexed entries? |
| 02:05.00 | Gagorian | I.e. index 1 corresponds to first trigger in both tables |
| 02:05.07 | Gagorian | or somesuch |
| 02:05.25 | CIA-22 | 03funkydude * r40789 10Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0/NPCModules/TempestKeep/TheEye/Kaelthas.lua: Threat-1.0: Kaelthas module: add space after the yell 'cuz' blizz like stuff like that |
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| 02:06.50 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r40790 10PitBull/ (4 files in 2 dirs): |
| 02:06.50 | CIA-22 | PitBull - optimization to table recycling |
| 02:06.50 | CIA-22 | - possible bugfix with that raid target dealy. |
| 02:06.51 | CIA-22 | - add the ability to save your current settings as a layout, change layouts, register layouts. |
| 02:06.51 | CIA-22 | - added Layouts/ABF.lua (which isn't like it was before), which is how the layouts will "generally" look nowadays. |
| 02:09.12 | mikma | Adirelle|Work: btw ThreatToKTM seems to work perfectly :D atleast the dorks didn't whine to me and were able to see my in their threatmeters |
| 02:13.00 | aen` | ckknight: what files do i need to rename to keep my SVs safe? |
| 02:13.34 | ckknight | "Layout-ABF" => "MetaLayout" |
| 02:13.44 | aen` | in the sv or the pitbull_metalayout file? |
| 02:13.50 | ckknight | or potentially "Layout-MetaLayout" => "MetaLayout" |
| 02:13.51 | ckknight | SV. |
| 02:14.33 | aen` | i have both layout-metalayout and abf |
| 02:14.49 | aen` | change both to MetaLayout? |
| 02:15.52 | aen` | and what about local MetaLayout_db = PitBull:AcquireDBNamespace("Layout-MetaLayout")? |
| 02:16.19 | ckknight | that's out of date. |
| 02:16.40 | aen` | alright |
| 02:16.47 | aen` | ill just rename layout-abf and layout-metalayout |
| 02:16.56 | ckknight | only one |
| 02:17.01 | ckknight | go with the latter |
| 02:17.05 | aen` | alright |
| 02:17.09 | aen` | i have both in the SV tho |
| 02:17.44 | Kirkburn | ckknight, dunno if you saw, but replied to the crash bug thread. I bet I'm hours late though :) |
| 02:17.51 | ckknight | Slouken? |
| 02:17.56 | Kirkburn | Er, yeah |
| 02:17.57 | ckknight | yea, I got it |
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| 02:18.02 | Kirkburn | Missing word ftw |
| 02:18.22 | Kirkburn | Bring on 2.1.3! :) |
| 02:18.53 | ckknight | I haven't experienced any crashes since 2.1.2 |
| 02:18.59 | ckknight | though I believe it's cause I fixed em on my end |
| 02:19.00 | ckknight | not sure |
| 02:19.05 | ckknight | I need people to test |
| 02:19.07 | ckknight | help crash it |
| 02:20.13 | Gagorian | still 7 hours to 2.1.2 + blizzard delay |
| 02:20.14 | Kirkburn | Oh, I'm talking about his response that your crash bug is fixed for 2.1.3 |
| 02:20.19 | Gagorian | so.. I can test within 24 hours |
| 02:20.21 | Gagorian | ! |
| 02:20.30 | Thrae | Gagorian: XFire is downloading it for me, should be done soon |
| 02:20.52 | Gagorian | EU servers need to come up first :> |
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| 02:22.49 | Gagorian | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:22.51 | Gagorian | "" |
| 02:22.59 | Gagorian | 2.1.3! |
| 02:23.01 | Kirkburn | ^ ya, that |
| 02:23.03 | Gagorian | fya blizz |
| 02:23.06 | ckknight | oh |
| 02:23.07 | ckknight | hrm |
| 02:23.16 | ckknight | ah, whatever |
| 02:23.21 | ckknight | I believe I fixed it in PitBull, locally |
| 02:23.24 | ckknight | so test that. |
| 02:24.14 | Gagorian | "This crash is a region (texture or fontstring) that doesn't have a parent when it's being shown." |
| 02:24.16 | Gagorian | Humm.. |
| 02:27.17 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r40791 10PitBull/PitBull_MetaLayout.lua: PitBull_MetaLayout - optimization to layout format (assume unknown texts are hidden). |
| 02:28.23 | kergoth | anyone have a link to a good macro guide handY? |
| 02:29.27 | ulic | I just thumb through all the examples on wowwiki until I find the pieces I'm looking for. |
| 02:29.28 | NightHawkTheSane | wowwiki? |
| 02:32.19 | mikma | kergoth: poke cogwheel, he loves macros :D |
| 02:33.56 | chuckg | For what kind of macro kergoth? |
| 02:34.03 | chuckg | What class? =D |
| 02:34.22 | kergoth | was just looking for a syntax reference so i know what conditionals exists, the wowwiki macro guide page seems to do the trick |
| 02:34.38 | chuckg | I have some good example for warlocks on: http://barn.chuckg.org/wiki/show/Macros%3AWarlock |
| 02:34.45 | chuckg | But not a working list. |
| 02:36.38 | hyperChipmunk | yea, the wowwiki article covers it pretty well |
| 02:36.47 | sylvanaar | why they dont put the macro syntax in that in-game faq tool i dont know |
| 02:36.50 | hyperChipmunk | that's what i always use |
| 02:40.28 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r40792 10PitBull/ (PitBull.lua PitBull_MetaLayout.lua): |
| 02:40.28 | CIA-22 | PitBull - add option to remove layouts from the database. |
| 02:40.28 | CIA-22 | - remove debug lines |
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| 02:56.43 | Arrowmaster | damn it feels weird seeing 30 people in kara when looking at the guild roster |
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| 02:59.21 | Kalman| | cladhaire: Just updated to v.135 of Lightheaded and, holy shit, nice job implementing all that stuff you'd mentioned. |
| 02:59.43 | cladhaire | thanks. |
| 03:00.14 | mtmtmt | what's Lightheaded? |
| 03:00.35 | Gngsk | don't remember the first time you ingested nicotine? |
| 03:00.53 | cladhaire | purl, lightheaded is http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info7017-LightHeaded.html |
| 03:00.55 | purl | okay, cladhaire |
| 03:01.23 | cladhaire | purl, lightheaded is an addon by cladhaire which displays quest comments from wowhead.com in-game. You can download LightHeaded at http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info7017-LightHeaded.html |
| 03:01.23 | purl | ...but lightheaded is already something else... |
| 03:01.34 | cladhaire | purl, no, lightheaded is an addon by cladhaire which displays quest comments from wowhead.com in-game. You can download LightHeaded at http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info7017-LightHeaded.html |
| 03:01.34 | purl | cladhaire: okay |
| 03:01.38 | Antiarc | Funkeh`: I'm not having any problems clearing threat |
| 03:02.07 | Funkeh` | Antiarc: eh? few days ago you told me yourself global trheat does not clear |
| 03:03.45 | shieldb | threat was spot on for us on hydross |
| 03:03.56 | shieldb | everyone got cleared every transition |
| 03:04.05 | Dotted | holy... cladhaire thats imba oO |
| 03:04.17 | cladhaire | word |
| 03:04.21 | Dotted | (saw the video) |
| 03:04.32 | cladhaire | lol the video is lamezors. |
| 03:04.34 | cladhaire | there's sound too |
| 03:04.37 | cladhaire | bt i couldn't cap it. |
| 03:04.38 | Funkeh` | shieldb: not for us, we have druids and priests above tanks |
| 03:04.56 | shieldb | is everyone up to date for you? |
| 03:04.59 | Dotted | needs to be installed |
| 03:05.16 | Funkeh` | theres 2 or 3 that are not but what does that matter, the ones above the tanks we up to date |
| 03:05.45 | Dotted | does skinner support LH? |
| 03:06.10 | Funkeh` | im especially seeing shaddow priests continually not gettting resets |
| 03:06.18 | Kalman| | Dotted: No. |
| 03:06.18 | Funkeh` | i dunno if has something to do with VE or what |
| 03:06.23 | Dotted | :( |
| 03:06.38 | cladhaire | Dotted: skinner is the devil. |
| 03:06.47 | Kalman| | cladhaire: Two things. First off.... detach, not detatch. :p |
| 03:06.48 | Dotted | noes :( |
| 03:06.57 | cladhaire | Kalman|: its fixed locally |
| 03:07.00 | cladhaire | i was smoking crack that day |
| 03:07.00 | cladhaire | =) |
| 03:07.04 | Kalman| | Fair enough. Crack's good. |
| 03:07.10 | cladhaire | it'll be in the next oarse update |
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| 03:07.23 | Kalman| | Second, the frame misaligns to questlog for me; left edge of LH is inside of right edge of questlog. |
| 03:07.27 | Kalman| | I can screenshot if you need. |
| 03:07.31 | Dotted | its probably DW i want skinner support for ^^ |
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| 03:08.45 | Dotted | or rather i want my whole damn UI looking like http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/full5700.jpg :p |
| 03:09.02 | khaki[wtf] | lol |
| 03:09.56 | Dotted | if skinner could do THAT |
| 03:10.03 | Dotted | my life would be complete |
| 03:12.01 | Kalman| | cladhaire: That's with default questlog, also, no addons that modify it. |
| 03:12.19 | cladhaire | Kalman|: its supposed to be |
| 03:12.21 | cladhaire | its "behind" the frame |
| 03:12.26 | cladhaire | an extension of it. |
| 03:12.36 | cladhaire | you could ss if you still think its not correct |
| 03:12.38 | Kalman| | One sec, lemme screenshot; I don't think this is intended. |
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| 03:13.17 | Unrealii | ¤Ë |
| 03:14.47 | Kalman| | cladhaire: http://www.radiationnow.net/wow/lightbug.jpg |
| 03:14.55 | cladhaire | 404 |
| 03:15.12 | Kalman| | Yeah, I noticed. Where the hell did I upload... oh, stupid case. |
| 03:15.21 | Kalman| | cladhaire: http://www.radiationnow.net/wow/lightbug.JPG |
| 03:15.28 | cladhaire | .. |
| 03:15.32 | cladhaire | you said you don't use anything that modifies |
| 03:15.33 | cladhaire | you're using skinner |
| 03:15.35 | cladhaire | liar |
| 03:15.42 | cladhaire | skinner fucks the quest frame, hence why its the devil. |
| 03:15.53 | cladhaire | well, one of the reasons why |
| 03:15.57 | Dotted | WTB LH Skinner support |
| 03:16.22 | cladhaire | by the way |
| 03:16.27 | cladhaire | if anyone "skins" lightheaded |
| 03:16.27 | Kalman| | Blizzard's default ui art is the devil. |
| 03:16.33 | cladhaire | they WILL leave the wowhead logo |
| 03:16.38 | cladhaire | or the addon will be discontinued entirely |
| 03:16.55 | cladhaire | they're under the exact same terms as any other addons that uses or modifes the data |
| 03:17.06 | cladhaire | which means I should watch skinner commits, good reminder. |
| 03:17.19 | nymbia | there will be smiting! |
| 03:17.39 | NimbleRabit | Ok so my brother is complaining to me that a macro that goes "/stopcasting" |
| 03:17.42 | cladhaire | indeed |
| 03:17.43 | NimbleRabit | "/cast Greater Heal" |
| 03:17.49 | NimbleRabit | only works to stop the cast one time |
| 03:17.51 | NimbleRabit | then starts glitching |
| 03:17.53 | hyperChipmunk | i'll skin my UI however the heck I want, tyvm |
| 03:17.55 | NimbleRabit | any truth to this or is he a noob? |
| 03:17.56 | Dotted | cladhaire imo go skin LH yourself, it would be a win-win situation |
| 03:18.08 | cladhaire | Dotted: I don't know how to, and I'm not sure I want to know how to |
| 03:18.10 | cladhaire | I hate skinner |
| 03:18.23 | cladhaire | hyperChipmunk: thats fine, do not release it. |
| 03:18.24 | Gagorian | NimbleRabit: Uh. I use that in conjunction with shadowbolt and it works fine. |
| 03:18.31 | NimbleRabit | you can keep cancelling over and over? |
| 03:18.33 | NimbleRabit | mid cast? |
| 03:18.39 | Kalman| | Well, anyway, there's your heads up that skinner+lh breaks and you may get reports on it. |
| 03:18.40 | cladhaire | i have no right to tell yo uwhat you can and can't do in your own home |
| 03:18.42 | Dotted | WTB Mad lua skills |
| 03:18.45 | Gagorian | NimbleRabit: Yes |
| 03:18.47 | Kalman| | I'll just frame detach, looks better anyway. |
| 03:18.51 | cladhaire | Kalman|: aye |
| 03:18.52 | NimbleRabit | Gagorian: k thanks, I figured it was his fault |
| 03:19.15 | hyperChipmunk | i'm not sure why you've got this personal crusade against skinner because you cba to uncheck a menu item, either |
| 03:19.22 | Dotted | http://www.wowace.com/wiki/Skinner oh this article is sexy |
| 03:19.27 | cladhaire | hyperChipmunk: I dnt have a personal crusade.. I just hate it |
| 03:19.50 | cladhaire | I'm just asking |
| 03:19.51 | CIA-22 | 03funkydude * r40793 10Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0/ (NPCModules/Azeroth/Azuregos.lua Threat-1.0.xml): Threat-1.0: add azuregos module |
| 03:20.18 | cladhaire | if someone skins lightheaded, then I request that they leave the icon there, since without it, I won't be able to continue providing the support I do now. |
| 03:20.30 | cladhaire | That is documented in my code, and in my addon description and I dont' think its too much to ask |
| 03:21.35 | cladhaire | I'm open to discourse if you feel otherwise. |
| 03:21.54 | Funkeh` | if skinner has somehow fucked with it i would drop a post on jncl's post |
| 03:21.58 | Dotted | cladhaire there is a LightHeaded.lua file in Skinner |
| 03:21.59 | Funkeh` | he is rarely on irc |
| 03:22.13 | hyperChipmunk | i'm more interested on how you plan to enforce it. obfuscation? |
| 03:22.31 | Kalman| | I'd bet on discontinuation as a public addon. |
| 03:22.32 | Funkeh` | don't remove the icon or i put a cap it yo ass bitch |
| 03:22.54 | ckknight | yea, it'd be seriously uncool to do so |
| 03:22.57 | cladhaire | hyperChipmunk: No, i'll drop the addon |
| 03:22.59 | cladhaire | period. |
| 03:23.01 | NightHawkTheSane | hyperChipmunk: "<@cladhaire> or the addon will be discontinued entirely" i think he already said how he'd enforce it :P |
| 03:23.10 | cladhaire | yep, i'm not willing to fight people on it |
| 03:23.21 | cladhaire | its hard to maintain as it is |
| 03:23.26 | Gagorian | How about you just do Skinner = nil in lightheaded? :P |
| 03:23.32 | cladhaire | lol |
| 03:23.35 | Funkeh` | lol |
| 03:23.42 | cladhaire | no, i dont mind peple using skinner thats fine |
| 03:23.48 | cladhaire | but.. if skinner moves your quest log, which is does |
| 03:23.50 | cladhaire | that's not my fault. |
| 03:23.52 | cladhaire | it shouldn't do that |
| 03:24.07 | hyperChipmunk | i'm not sure where you got that impression |
| 03:24.22 | hyperChipmunk | mine's where it's always been |
| 03:24.25 | NightHawkTheSane | That reminds me, I need to check out eepanels, or just write my own addon or something. I'm only using skinner to put a black bottom area on my screen... |
| 03:25.03 | cladhaire | hyperChipmunk: no, its not.. enable skinner, and put your mouse on the toprighthand corner of the quest log frame |
| 03:25.09 | cladhaire | then disable skinner, and reload via commandline |
| 03:25.13 | cladhaire | it won't be in the same place. |
| 03:25.35 | cladhaire | anyone have a link to the skinner post on the forums? |
| 03:25.40 | NimbleRabit | does anybody know what addon could be making my /who not work |
| 03:25.59 | Dotted | http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=2941.0.html |
| 03:26.03 | cladhaire | thanks Dotted |
| 03:26.06 | Dotted | np |
| 03:26.56 | Gagorian | Dotted: That Lukons guy responded to you in KTM thread. |
| 03:27.19 | cladhaire | posted |
| 03:27.41 | Gagorian | Dotted: He just basically added one more proof why KTM is bad, even if you disable it through the console commands it still does the same processing :P |
| 03:27.44 | hyperChipmunk | i like being nice to GMs |
| 03:27.48 | hyperChipmunk | they much get so much crap |
| 03:28.00 | NimbleRabit | I was mean to a gm earlier |
| 03:28.03 | Gagorian | Well, if I'd actually ever gotten help from a GM |
| 03:28.05 | NimbleRabit | but it was because he clearly didn't even play WoW |
| 03:28.09 | Gagorian | I'd be nice |
| 03:28.09 | NimbleRabit | CLEARLY |
| 03:28.29 | NimbleRabit | I told him an item was showing up "white" in chat but the quality was actually blue, or rare |
| 03:28.32 | NimbleRabit | and he didn't understand.. |
| 03:28.45 | NimbleRabit | no matter how much I explained he just couldn't understand what I was saying |
| 03:28.52 | hyperChipmunk | you can almost feel their joy when they get to talk to someone who's polite and forgiving |
| 03:29.27 | Dotted | Gagorian :) |
| 03:29.51 | CIA-22 | 03sayclub * r40794 10ClassTimer/Locales/koKR.lua: ClassTimer: - Updated localization koKR(by gygabyte) |
| 03:30.34 | Kebinusan | ~hypnotoad |
| 03:30.35 | purl | All glory to the hypnotoad! CLAP. CLAP. |
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| 03:32.38 | Gagorian | hyperChipmunk: Well, I've always (in the past) been extremely precise and polite in what I was asking.. and it wasn't anything retarded. |
| 03:32.55 | Gagorian | Still not a single one have done their job. |
| 03:33.45 | Gagorian | I believe they have to log every action they do to assist players in case of further investigation.. most of them (on my server) seem too lazy to do that |
| 03:33.57 | Gagorian | So they just ignore you |
| 03:34.11 | Gagorian | At least, that's my theory! |
| 03:36.23 | Dotted | you'd assume the logging would be transparent |
| 03:43.40 | CIA-22 | 03funkydude * r40795 10Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0/ (NPCModules/Naxxramas/Noth.lua Threat-1.0.xml): Threat-1.0: add noth module |
| 03:46.48 | CIA-22 | 03funkydude * r40796 10Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0/NPCModules/ (13 files in 10 dirs): Threat-1.0: UTF all that shizzle |
| 03:47.26 | ckknight | ...lol |
| 03:48.46 | hyperChipmunk | someone's Brown Rabbit just popped up on my beast tracking O_o |
| 03:49.13 | Tain | mmmm.. roast rabbit. |
| 03:49.32 | hyperChipmunk | Tain: i been lookin' for you |
| 03:50.15 | hyperChipmunk | what do you use now that you no longer keep CommandHistory updated; it's my last original Ace addon and i can't live w/o it |
| 03:50.36 | Tain | haha I forgot all about that. |
| 03:50.43 | hyperChipmunk | D8< |
| 03:51.01 | Galka | [2007/06/19 23:51:11-1147-x1]: Threat-1.0\Threat-1.0\NPCModules\Azeroth\Azuregos.lua:38: ')' expected (to close '(' at line 14) near '<eof>' |
| 03:51.15 | Tain | Wait.. let me think a second. Which will be a challenge since I've been drinking all night. |
| 03:51.34 | hyperChipmunk | excellent |
| 03:51.58 | Tain | Nah I was wrong. I thought I modified to not use original Ace. |
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| 03:52.19 | hyperChipmunk | weak |
| 03:52.46 | Tain | It actually wouldn't be difficult to do, it's very simple logic. |
| 03:53.38 | hyperChipmunk | i saw GetOpt, et. al. on the first page and was like, thxuno |
| 03:53.49 | Tain | heh |
| 03:53.59 | hyperChipmunk | it's something i'd expect to see in prat, but sylvanaar is a lamer |
| 03:54.02 | Tain | I still never got the functionality that I really wanted. |
| 03:54.22 | hyperChipmunk | well, it isn't perfect |
| 03:54.25 | Tain | Since WoW's history is dumb. |
| 03:54.27 | hyperChipmunk | but it gets the job done |
| 03:54.55 | hyperChipmunk | i like being able to sign onto my AH alt and re-spam my auctions without retyping them =P |
| 03:55.30 | Tain | Yeah |
| 03:55.42 | hyperChipmunk | cuz you get links and everything, which you can't do in a macro |
| 03:55.50 | hyperChipmunk | and it's too volatile for one anyway |
| 03:55.55 | CIA-22 | 03funkydude * r40797 10Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0/NPCModules/Azeroth/Azuregos.lua: Threat-1.0: bugfix Threat-1.0: bugfix azuregos module |
| 03:55.57 | hyperChipmunk | changes several times a day |
| 03:56.37 | hyperChipmunk | and everytime i try to turn it off on my main, i find myself immediately needing it |
| 03:56.43 | Tain | heh |
| 03:56.49 | hyperChipmunk | it's one of those things that are so integral to my play that i don't notice it at all |
| 03:57.16 | hyperChipmunk | when it's not there, i stare for a few seconds before realizing what's going on |
| 03:57.47 | Gagorian | There's a few things like that.. like alt clicking items to trade window |
| 03:57.54 | Gagorian | Once it's not there you just dont what to do |
| 03:57.59 | Gagorian | -_- |
| 03:58.43 | Tain | I'm in another barely playing WoW stage, and even when I do it's a char on a new server. I laugh when people ask me why I don't play the char I spent so much time equipping through Naxx and all (pre tbc.) |
| 03:59.01 | hyperChipmunk | i was afraid of that |
| 03:59.15 | hyperChipmunk | so back to buggin' sylv then, eh? |
| 03:59.22 | hyperChipmunk | sylvanaar: stop sucking |
| 03:59.50 | hyperChipmunk | gimmeh commandhistory support in prat or i'll cut your eyeballs out |
| 04:00.28 | sylvanaar | hyperChipmunk i know im lame |
| 04:00.55 | sylvanaar | what is that anyways? |
| 04:01.12 | sylvanaar | basic editbox history works still |
| 04:01.15 | hyperChipmunk | remembers your chat history through reload/logout |
| 04:01.19 | sylvanaar | oh |
| 04:01.32 | sylvanaar | you know i was thinking about that this am ironically |
| 04:02.38 | Tain | There's a function to add a command to history. |
| 04:03.00 | sylvanaar | but Prat's gotta stand on its own 2 feetz, i have been ramming features into it - i'd like to see other people add stuff |
| 04:03.01 | Tain | You really just have to log commands and run that function on load. |
| 04:03.14 | hyperChipmunk | http://svn.wowace.com/wowace/tags/CommandHistory/11000/ |
| 04:03.16 | sylvanaar | yeah, but they are all tainted |
| 04:03.46 | hyperChipmunk | that one still wfm |
| 04:03.54 | sylvanaar | which you just have to be careful with |
| 04:04.01 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r40798 10PitBull/PitBull.lua: |
| 04:04.01 | CIA-22 | PitBull - add mechanism to export layouts. |
| 04:04.01 | CIA-22 | - no import yet. |
| 04:04.05 | Tain | All the best things are tainted. |
| 04:04.31 | Thorgard | What's a good graphics card to run WoW smoothly at high settings? Any recommendations? |
| 04:04.32 | hyperChipmunk | haha |
| 04:04.44 | sylvanaar | yeah, so do you want a chat buffer + command history? |
| 04:04.50 | hyperChipmunk | oh dude, i never knew it even had a slash-command |
| 04:05.06 | hyperChipmunk | aw man |
| 04:05.07 | hyperChipmunk | dude |
| 04:05.09 | hyperChipmunk | /cry |
| 04:05.20 | hyperChipmunk | you can increase the number of lines saved |
| 04:05.27 | hyperChipmunk | this makes me sad now |
| 04:05.35 | kergoth | ? |
| 04:05.40 | Tain | What I really want is WoW's chat command history to not replace a command entirely when you scroll back and change it. |
| 04:05.53 | hyperChipmunk | yea |
| 04:05.58 | sylvanaar | yeah |
| 04:06.03 | hyperChipmunk | that really pisses me off |
| 04:07.14 | hyperChipmunk | while we're on the wishful thinking train, hitting the up-arrow after typing the first word should scroll through history starting with that word |
| 04:07.25 | Tain | oooh that would be nice. |
| 04:07.31 | kergoth | hehe, i love having my readline set up that way |
| 04:07.36 | kergoth | vim <up> ftw |
| 04:07.39 | hyperChipmunk | yea |
| 04:07.43 | hyperChipmunk | i'm spoiled by zsh |
| 04:07.44 | Tain | And should be possible, given Tem's tabcomplete |
| 04:07.56 | CIA-22 | 03cryect * r40799 10Recount/ (5 files): |
| 04:07.56 | CIA-22 | Recount - Performance improvements for stacked graphs particularly for normalized stacked graphs |
| 04:07.56 | CIA-22 | -Can now choose if it uses the global sharedmedia statusbar texture or not |
| 04:08.04 | hyperChipmunk | you mean my AceTab |
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| 04:08.09 | hyperChipmunk | /rude |
| 04:08.20 | Tain | Yes sure that! |
| 04:08.34 | hyperChipmunk | but it wouldn't even be that difficult |
| 04:08.42 | hyperChipmunk | complex |
| 04:08.44 | Tain | I've been poking around with Tabula Rasa. |
| 04:09.14 | hyperChipmunk | since you're only matching line beginnings |
| 04:10.20 | sylvanaar | right, but you wont be able to use all of the the commands |
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| 04:10.53 | hyperChipmunk | what do you mean |
| 04:11.08 | sylvanaar | after i wrote tab complete for macros ... i realized that |
| 04:11.41 | hyperChipmunk | like, if i type /dump <up> i don't want it to cycle through my hawt cyber /tells |
| 04:12.00 | hyperChipmunk | where'd you write that? |
| 04:12.12 | sylvanaar | right, if you hit /tar hyperC though, you get an error |
| 04:12.26 | hyperChipmunk | whyfor? |
| 04:12.50 | sylvanaar | its taintactular if you retrieve it |
| 04:13.02 | sylvanaar | then try and use it |
| 04:13.34 | sylvanaar | you know that anywayz |
| 04:13.59 | Kebinusan | 2007/06/19 19:47:59-1728-x2]: oRA2_Leader\Loot.lua:246: SetLootThreshold(): threshold must be between 2 and 6 |
| 04:14.04 | Kebinusan | You can no longer ml commons? |
| 04:14.25 | Gagorian | Yeah cause it was an exploit on Vashj |
| 04:14.45 | Kebinusan | I used it on trash for the marks |
| 04:15.01 | hyperChipmunk | i don't know anything about taint |
| 04:15.04 | hyperChipmunk | why would that taint? |
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| 04:15.26 | hyperChipmunk | and why can't i find prat in the fubar menu |
| 04:15.28 | sylvanaar | well, you have code in acetab which stops it from tainting stuff |
| 04:15.39 | hyperChipmunk | O_o |
| 04:15.43 | sylvanaar | it needs an update i think though |
| 04:15.45 | hyperChipmunk | uh, ofc i do |
| 04:15.55 | Thorgard | Anyone playing WoW on a LCD? ;P |
| 04:15.58 | hyperChipmunk | think ckk did that, and updated last night |
| 04:16.01 | aen` | Thorgard: yes |
| 04:16.16 | Thorgard | aen`, what kind of a monitor is it? |
| 04:16.18 | ckknight | what's all this, then? |
| 04:16.20 | sylvanaar | oh does it handle ##SHOW or whatever |
| 04:16.22 | ckknight | oh, yea, I removed that |
| 04:16.30 | aen` | Thorgard: viewsonic 22inch widescreen |
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| 04:16.54 | Thorgard | aen`, no blur? |
| 04:17.07 | aen` | Thorgard: no?? |
| 04:17.31 | NightHawkTheSane | Thorgard: I'm playing on an apple 17" cinema lcd, no problems with it |
| 04:17.46 | Tain | I play on a Dell 2405, no blur/ghosting. |
| 04:18.13 | hyperChipmunk | blur is so 5 years ago |
| 04:18.18 | Thorgard | I'm pondering buying a new monitor but all the damn LCDs I've seen in action have been icky 'cause I've noticed ghosting. |
| 04:18.49 | sylvanaar | hyperChipmunk um do you have Ace2 enabled |
| 04:18.51 | Tain | Some people are more susceptible to noticing blur where most don't see a thing. |
| 04:19.13 | hyperChipmunk | yea |
| 04:19.27 | Gagorian | Ghosting? |
| 04:19.36 | Gagorian | Never noticed anything |
| 04:19.49 | NightHawkTheSane | If the monitor has a fast enough response rate, you'll never notice ghosting. |
| 04:19.52 | Gagorian | I've got a "2ms" viewsonic panel |
| 04:19.59 | NightHawkTheSane | ghosting really is "so" 90's, along with monitor burn in :p |
| 04:20.02 | Thorgard | Gagorian, VX922? |
| 04:20.05 | Gagorian | yes |
| 04:20.23 | Thorgard | Yeah, that's what I was looking at. |
| 04:20.44 | Cryect | NightHawkTheSane: Yeah too bad my LCD from oh 2002 has burn in |
| 04:20.54 | Gagorian | Been happy with it after I managed to get a dead pixel revived ;) |
| 04:20.57 | CIA-22 | 03funkydude * r40800 10PeriodicTable-3.0/ (8 files in 7 dirs): PeriodicTable-3.0: Item/Loot update |
| 04:21.02 | hyperChipmunk | it's np, i just removed the hidden=true from the SV |
| 04:21.07 | sylvanaar | hyperChipmunk no idea, i switched Prat back to use ##LoadManagers: Ace2 ##LoadWith:Ace2 |
| 04:21.18 | Gagorian | A red pixel right at the border, but luckily got it fixed :p |
| 04:21.33 | Cryect | I practically only use my second LCD for IRC so it has IRC stuff burnt into it :-p |
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| 04:21.41 | hyperChipmunk | prat works |
| 04:21.49 | hyperChipmunk | i just had the plugin hidden |
| 04:21.55 | hyperChipmunk | and it's not coming back =\ |
| 04:22.02 | sylvanaar | oh, /prat minimap |
| 04:23.03 | hyperChipmunk | i loaded it manually |
| 04:23.03 | hyperChipmunk | got it =p |
| 04:23.30 | hyperChipmunk | hm |
| 04:23.32 | sylvanaar | wierd |
| 04:23.35 | hyperChipmunk | now i have to always load it manually |
| 04:23.37 | hyperChipmunk | that won't do |
| 04:23.54 | sylvanaar | load what? |
| 04:24.01 | hyperChipmunk | /ace load prat |
| 04:24.07 | sylvanaar | exit game |
| 04:24.22 | hyperChipmunk | nah i fixed it again by re-enabling Ace2 standalone |
| 04:24.23 | hyperChipmunk | =p |
| 04:24.31 | sylvanaar | yes |
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| 04:24.35 | hyperChipmunk | i don't have to understand for it to work! |
| 04:25.18 | sylvanaar | it Loads with ace2 otherwise if ace2 is there but not loaded it is lod |
| 04:25.45 | sylvanaar | on the upside - no more reloadui to enable prat |
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| 04:32.24 | CIA-22 | 03funkydude * r40801 10BigWigs/BlackTemple/Souls.lua: |
| 04:32.24 | CIA-22 | BigWigs: BlackTemple/Souls: |
| 04:32.24 | CIA-22 | - add soul drain warnings |
| 04:32.24 | CIA-22 | - add some syncing |
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| 04:35.33 | NeoTron_ | so is it just me or does prat use a lot of cpu? |
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| 04:35.54 | Funkeh` | not on my machine |
| 04:36.02 | Funkeh` | then again i ahve most of the modules disabled |
| 04:36.19 | sylvanaar | NeoTron_ its just you, i profiled it extensively |
| 04:37.05 | sylvanaar | only 1 module has an onupdate - chatbuttons, and even that doesnt use much cpu |
| 04:37.47 | Gagorian | Well, actually prat did come up pretty high on the list when I had profiling on today in shattrah |
| 04:37.59 | Gagorian | Not anything drastic, just more than other addons |
| 04:38.30 | sylvanaar | idk - if you run embedded that could be one reason |
| 04:39.03 | Gagorian | Not me at least |
| 04:39.54 | sylvanaar | idk - do you unpack it and use the autolod feature? |
| 04:40.36 | sylvanaar | it will use about 1.2MB standalone but still packed |
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| 04:42.10 | sylvanaar | cpu time measurements are thrown off for CF:MEH hooks depending on your position in the hook chain |
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| 04:44.23 | CIA-22 | 03funkydude * r40802 10BigWigs/BlackTemple/Souls.lua: BigWigs: BlackTemple/Souls: bugfix |
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| 04:50.04 | sylvanaar | hyperChipmunk the beginnings of a command history mod for prat: /script local e=AceLibrary:GetInstance("AceEvent-2.0") e:RegisterEvent(Prat.Events.PRE_OUTBOUND, function(m) Prat:Print(m.MESSAGE) end) |
| 04:50.10 | CIA-22 | 03funkydude * r40803 10BigWigs/ (3 files in 2 dirs): BigWigs: BlackTemple: add Illidan mod |
| 04:52.10 | Kyahx | sylvanaar: one tiny suggestion for prat |
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| 04:52.43 | hyperChipmunk | <3 |
| 04:52.51 | Kyahx | add the wfhidden = true filed to your waterfall option in your AceOptions table, so it dosent show the button in the GUI, but still does in other GUIs (like DueceCommander) :) |
| 04:53.14 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r40804 10PitBull/ (PitBull.lua PitBull_MetaLayout.lua): PitBull - add ability to import layouts. |
| 04:53.21 | sylvanaar | what? |
| 04:53.30 | Kyahx | its undocumented |
| 04:53.44 | ckknight | then it doesn't exist. |
| 04:53.45 | ckknight | document it |
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| 04:54.00 | Kyahx | sorry :) never got around to it |
| 04:54.04 | Kyahx | I changed it a few days ago |
| 04:55.00 | Kyahx | should I add it to the AceOptions documentation, or waterfall's? |
| 04:55.13 | sylvanaar | just change prat! |
| 04:55.56 | Kyahx | augh, but that means I have to check it out from the SVN :P |
| 04:56.16 | ckknight | Kyahx: AceOptions |
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| 04:57.22 | sylvanaar | what button ? |
| 04:57.41 | sylvanaar | waterfall button? |
| 04:57.55 | Kyahx | It just hides the option in the context of waterfall, and nothing else |
| 04:58.10 | Kyahx | wfHidden (instead of guiHidden or cmdHidden) |
| 04:58.33 | Kyahx | no need for waterfall buttons inside waterfall menus :P |
| 05:00.41 | Gokie | ckknight: any chance that pitbull updates will go back to not resetting all bar/text settings in the near future? Getting just a tad tired of re-doing DogTags multiple times a day =P |
| 05:01.13 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r40805 10PitBull/PitBull.lua: PitBull - move the import/export/remove layout menu to the global menu, as it has nothing to do with the individual frames. |
| 05:01.29 | ckknight | Gokie: we have layouts now, it's like mass copy-paste |
| 05:01.38 | ckknight | also, you can export, post on forums, import later |
| 05:01.39 | ckknight | etc. |
| 05:01.53 | ckknight | also, it's versioned, so that if I _do_ make a change, it can be backwards-compatible |
| 05:02.06 | Gokie | was that added very very recently? |
| 05:02.08 | CIA-22 | 03antiarc * r40806 10Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0.lua: Threat-1.0: Fix to raidwide threat clears. All party members need to be updated to this revision or later for clears to work properly. |
| 05:02.12 | ckknight | yes, past 2 hours |
| 05:02.15 | Gokie | ah |
| 05:02.19 | Gokie | very nice, thank you =) |
| 05:02.23 | sylvanaar | i still dont know how to turn modules back on once they have been disabled in waterfall |
| 05:02.25 | ckknight | if you notice, I'm still adding stuffs. |
| 05:02.57 | Gokie | yep... I mean, I realized all along that PB is still in heavy development, so I expected to have to re-do settings on a fairly frequent basis |
| 05:03.08 | ausmara | ckk, you just need to create a good GUI for editing frames instead of Drop Down if that's possible without bloating the addons. |
| 05:03.10 | ausmara | *addon. |
| 05:03.18 | Gokie | it was just that recently, it seemed every other update caused the bar/text settings to reset |
| 05:03.21 | ckknight | ausmara: you do it. |
| 05:03.31 | Antiarc | ckknight: Integrate waterfall if it exists |
| 05:03.33 | Antiarc | Like Open does |
| 05:03.38 | ckknight | Antiarc: I believe it's on the wishlist |
| 05:03.43 | syeren | I let the experts do that shit Ckk :) |
| 05:03.46 | Antiarc | It takes like 3 sec |
| 05:03.49 | Antiarc | I'll do it if you don't :P |
| 05:03.57 | ckknight | Antiarc: knock yourself out |
| 05:04.01 | Funkeh` | yeah ckknight wtf it take slike 3 sec dude wtf |
| 05:04.04 | ckknight | Antiarc: you'll also have to help me later with guild comm for layouts. |
| 05:04.11 | Antiarc | No prob |
| 05:04.15 | ckknight | Funkeh`: ever heard of prioritization? |
| 05:04.18 | ckknight | apparently you haven't |
| 05:04.24 | Kyahx | Allright, documented my change |
| 05:04.25 | ckknight | maybe some things are more important |
| 05:04.27 | Kyahx | now it exists |
| 05:05.22 | syeren | I just realized that Blizzard have done an amazing job with their Blizzard Downloader, making my Antivirus believe it's a trojan! |
| 05:05.52 | durcyn | it's just a fat bittorrent client |
| 05:06.30 | Funkeh` | your anti virus sucks syeren ! |
| 05:06.38 | xt | if by fat, you mean bad |
| 05:06.52 | kaiden | ckknight, found anohter small bug in Threat-1.0, Threat-1.0\ClassModules\Pet.lua:125: attempt to index field 'rankLevel' (a nil value) when casting Intimidate and dunno what else had it pop up twice |
| 05:07.02 | ckknight | kaiden: inform Antiarc |
| 05:07.22 | kaiden | k |
| 05:08.38 | CIA-22 | 03sylvanaar * r40807 10Prat/extras/PratWaterfall.lua: Prat: use wfHidden on the waterfall config buttons |
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| 05:11.43 | NightHawkTheSane | your mom's a fat bittorrent client |
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| 05:15.46 | Antiarc | kaiden: Thanks |
| 05:15.49 | Antiarc | Looking at it |
| 05:16.11 | kaiden | Antiarc, np and the spell was Intimidation, not Intimidate :P |
| 05:16.16 | Antiarc | Aye |
| 05:17.39 | hyperChipmunk | >8\ i should have told the GM i'm 3h ahead of server time; maybe the character specialist to whom she escalated my ticket would have contacted me earlier |
| 05:17.58 | hyperChipmunk | i wan' go bed >8( |
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| 05:18.12 | kaiden | hyperChipmunk, what happened? |
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| 05:18.33 | Xuerian | blarg |
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| 05:19.15 | CIA-22 | 03antiarc * r40808 10Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0/ClassModules/Pet.lua: Threat-1.0: Fix for non-scaling pet skills; identified bug in global threat clears that heavily affects healers - not fixed, but working on it, be aware that it exists if you use this revision. |
| 05:19.17 | hyperChipmunk | item cache wonkiness made it look like the arena item i had was removed from my inventory; i figured it was standard practice, so i re-purchased it |
| 05:19.32 | hyperChipmunk | and now i have two left-hand rippers |
| 05:19.37 | Xuerian | Damn >.< |
| 05:19.57 | hyperChipmunk | and no more points to spend =\ |
| 05:20.08 | Antiarc | Ouch |
| 05:20.11 | kaiden | that's lame! |
| 05:20.18 | hyperChipmunk | i don't get much; my g/f is so lousy |
| 05:20.56 | hyperChipmunk | took all season to get the one weapon, plus another 1100, and i wasted 800 of the 1100 re-buying the weapon |
| 05:21.12 | CIA-22 | 03sayclub * r40809 10Babble-2.2/Babble-Trainer-2.2/Babble-Trainer-2.2.lua: |
| 05:21.12 | CIA-22 | Babble-2.2: |
| 05:21.12 | CIA-22 | - Trainer: koKR Update |
| 05:21.13 | Antiarc | Get a 5v5 team |
| 05:21.15 | Xuerian | Tell a gm about it? |
| 05:21.19 | Antiarc | Lose for 2 weeks and get your new offhand :) |
| 05:21.20 | hyperChipmunk | yea |
| 05:21.27 | Xuerian | Can you get it exchanged? |
| 05:21.37 | hyperChipmunk | that's what i'm waiting to find out |
| 05:21.43 | hyperChipmunk | talked to the GM a few hours ago |
| 05:21.51 | hyperChipmunk | she 'escalated it to a character specialist' |
| 05:22.00 | hyperChipmunk | but it's friggin' late |
| 05:22.03 | hyperChipmunk | and i'm tired |
| 05:22.17 | kaiden | hyperChipmunk, they will investigate and mail you the new item or refund your points |
| 05:22.21 | kaiden | i doubt you have to stay up to get it back |
| 05:22.23 | hyperChipmunk | and i just realized that it could still be a few hours, because the servers are 3h behind |
| 05:23.00 | hyperChipmunk | i want them to take the item, not mail a new one =) |
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| 05:23.10 | hyperChipmunk | i don't need a third left-handed ripper >8D |
| 05:23.30 | kaiden | hyperChipmunk, hence the or refund your points |
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| 05:23.58 | hyperChipmunk | yea, but the thought of more of the blasted things coming my way amused me |
| 05:24.02 | kaiden | i de'd an item once on accident and they mailed me my item back with enchants and everything hehe |
| 05:24.22 | hyperChipmunk | omgz i'm swiiimmming in epix |
| 05:24.36 | NightHawkTheSane | left handed epix. |
| 05:24.44 | kaiden | hyperChipmunk, you still survival spec? |
| 05:24.50 | hyperChipmunk | ...that can't even be sold or disenchanted |
| 05:24.51 | kaiden | obviously if your getting these rippers |
| 05:24.54 | kaiden | hehe |
| 05:25.01 | hyperChipmunk | i have always been and always will be |
| 05:25.24 | kaiden | i group'd with a survival hunter tonight that refused to melee, he would only use his bow |
| 05:25.28 | hyperChipmunk | fist weapons look awesome on a shadowmelded nightelf |
| 05:25.29 | kaiden | just made me boggle a little bit |
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| 05:26.00 | hyperChipmunk | well, even a survival hunter ought to know that he's 5x more useful at range |
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| 05:26.47 | hyperChipmunk | the point is that a survival hunter CAN get his hands dirty if necessary |
| 05:26.51 | Xuerian | goshdarnit! |
| 05:27.00 | hyperChipmunk | and not be a total wus |
| 05:27.11 | Jaxon | Any hunter can melee just as effectively, regardless of talents. |
| 05:27.22 | kaiden | hyperChipmunk, ah so they dont do more melee damage |
| 05:27.28 | hyperChipmunk | they do |
| 05:27.30 | hyperChipmunk | depending |
| 05:27.59 | Jaxon | You don't have to go deep into Survival to get extra crit on mongoose (requires aggro) or Raptor Strike. |
| 05:28.04 | Antiarc | For a hunter, wouldn't it be easier to just get two of the Quickblades? |
| 05:28.05 | ckknight | Xuerian: :-P |
| 05:28.08 | hyperChipmunk | Jaxon: yea, but not any hunter will get ambushed by a rogue and not even think about getting range |
| 05:28.10 | Antiarc | Cheap and high DPS |
| 05:28.17 | Xuerian | ckknight: This metalayout thing is teh awesome |
| 05:28.19 | Xuerian | but |
| 05:28.20 | hyperChipmunk | i just turn around and melee them down |
| 05:28.25 | Xuerian | This mana-as-hp thing isn't |
| 05:28.26 | Xuerian | >_> |
| 05:28.37 | ckknight | mana-as-hp? |
| 05:28.39 | hyperChipmunk | Antiarc: but not as cool looking |
| 05:28.40 | Jaxon | hyperChipmunk: raptor strike, wing clip, run away. Deterrance if you've got it, I've stood there with Deterrance to waste a rogue's time. |
| 05:28.44 | Antiarc | Given. |
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| 05:29.00 | Xuerian | Dah, just reset my sv and my hp bars (all frames) are registering as power/mana |
| 05:29.00 | Antiarc | Jaxon: Combat rogues will chew right through Deterrence. |
| 05:29.04 | hyperChipmunk | you have to see an elf in stealth with hand weapons out to appreciate the cool factor |
| 05:29.20 | Xuerian | NEVERMIND ME |
| 05:29.34 | Xuerian | I don't play a lock, and I wasn't lifetapping. I DENY ALL ACCUSATIONS |
| 05:29.35 | Jaxon | Antiarc: increased parry as well, it is still super effective. |
| 05:29.44 | hyperChipmunk | combat rogues do not chew through a full survival's hp/mit/avoidance |
| 05:29.46 | Antiarc | 25%, given :P |
| 05:29.49 | ckknight | :-P |
| 05:30.00 | hyperChipmunk | all rogues run out of steam |
| 05:30.01 | ckknight | you're special, Xuerian |
| 05:30.12 | Antiarc | Combat is particularly good at not running out of steam, TBH |
| 05:30.21 | Xuerian | ckknight: Dam skippy >.o |
| 05:30.26 | kaiden | ckknight, that's what i said when he broke my entire wow all those times with xLoot |
| 05:30.30 | Antiarc | If I run into a tough nut in the arena, I just pop AR and go to town :D |
| 05:30.32 | hyperChipmunk | well, the point is to not die before you get healed |
| 05:30.49 | Antiarc | Wounding poison is love >_> |
| 05:30.50 | hyperChipmunk | usually you don't need it |
| 05:30.52 | Xuerian | it's true >.x |
| 05:31.04 | hyperChipmunk | but occasionally you'll get an annoying one |
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| 05:32.06 | hyperChipmunk | kaiden: hunters also get extra melee crit deeper in |
| 05:32.13 | Antiarc | Honestly, the biggest problem for me is scatter -> trap |
| 05:32.15 | hyperChipmunk | survival |
| 05:32.21 | Antiarc | Absolutely unbeatable, at least before the trinket change |
| 05:32.53 | hyperChipmunk | but they also get expose weakness, which only works on range crits |
| 05:33.12 | hyperChipmunk | my guess is that's why your hunter refused to melee |
| 05:33.26 | hyperChipmunk | especially if your group was heavy on physical dps |
| 05:33.38 | hyperChipmunk | expose weakness can be immense |
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| 05:35.01 | Kebinusan | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y8Kyi0WNg40 |
| 05:35.24 | hyperChipmunk | Antiarc: the survival equivalent is counterattack and wyvsting |
| 05:35.29 | *** join/#wowace Unrealii (i=NEXT96@121.129.140.143) |
| 05:35.47 | hyperChipmunk | or frost trap |
| 05:36.08 | hyperChipmunk | depending if he wants to kill you or his partner |
| 05:39.44 | Antiarc | Frost trap also gets to bite me >:( |
| 05:41.24 | grennon | so does loot get stacked when it comes out of mail in this patch now? |
| 05:41.33 | grennon | and does it stack the whole bag or just the item you loot? |
| 05:42.26 | shieldb | Cryect, you around? |
| 05:42.37 | *** join/#wowace Velkyn (n=sm@c-68-58-69-83.hsd1.in.comcast.net) |
| 05:43.06 | shieldb | getting a Recount.lua:364: attempt to perform arithmetic on field 'LastThreat' (a nil value) once per second o_0 |
| 05:44.31 | Velkyn | Question: When I log into the game and open my bags I get all "?"'s for items (I have deleted my Cache folder several times)... now here is whats crazy: a few seconds after opening my bag I get Disconnected for the internet (my comp loses its DHCP and DNS info) the only way I can then fix it is to shut down the machine and reboot. |
| 05:44.38 | Velkyn | Anyhow have any idea whats going on? |
| 05:45.27 | Jaxon | Oh, I know what that is. |
| 05:45.29 | Jaxon | Thats bad. |
| 05:45.30 | Jaxon | Very, very bad. |
| 05:45.35 | Jaxon | Velkyn: sorry, you've got cooties. |
| 05:45.59 | NightHawkTheSane | Jaxon: see, i would have pegged it as an PEBKAC issue |
| 05:46.20 | Jaxon | Isn't that what I just did? |
| 05:46.31 | ckknight | I believe Jaxon's diagnosis is more accurate, NightHawkTheSane |
| 05:46.47 | NightHawkTheSane | well thats why I'm not a doctor. |
| 05:47.02 | Velkyn | Apart from cooties (scanned for those) any other ideas? |
| 05:48.39 | *** join/#wowace CirCit (i=CirCit@203-206-74-231.dyn.iinet.net.au) |
| 05:49.26 | nevcairiel | so opening your bags removes your DHCP Lease? |
| 05:49.28 | nevcairiel | fun stuff. |
| 05:50.00 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r40810 10PitBull/ (PitBull.lua PitBull_MetaLayout.lua): PitBull - add Comm support for layouts. |
| 05:50.04 | CirCit | hey all im done with trolling thru the wiki on wowace.com is there a more uptodat listing or should i just ask for what im looking for here? |
| 05:50.05 | ckknight | Antiarc: there? |
| 05:50.09 | Antiarc | Ja |
| 05:50.17 | ckknight | Antiarc: wanna help test some comm? |
| 05:50.27 | Antiarc | Sure |
| 05:50.34 | nevcairiel | CirCit: depends what you are looking for |
| 05:50.38 | Antiarc | which packages do I need to update? |
| 05:50.52 | Antiarc | I have Pitbull through WAU, but can switch to SVN |
| 05:51.37 | ckknight | yea, go to SVN |
| 05:51.39 | ckknight | :-P |
| 05:51.46 | ckknight | least for now |
| 05:51.53 | ckknight | I believe it should all work fine |
| 05:52.02 | Antiarc | No worries if not |
| 05:52.04 | CirCit | 1. im looking for the combatlog mod that colour codes it and places everything in [You] *** [target] or [target] shoots [you] for *** |
| 05:52.05 | Antiarc | That's what ACP is for. :P |
| 05:52.10 | Antiarc | SimpleCombatLog |
| 05:52.25 | CirCit | in wow? |
| 05:52.29 | Antiarc | Yes |
| 05:52.31 | Antiarc | That's the mod name |
| 05:52.34 | nevcairiel | rMCP > ACP imho. |
| 05:52.39 | CirCit | looking... |
| 05:54.16 | CirCit | ok 2nd mod i was looking for is a Out of range default button bar mod |
| 05:54.51 | Xuerian | ckknight: As in sharing layouts? 0.o |
| 05:54.59 | ckknight | yes, Xuerian |
| 05:55.01 | ckknight | in-game |
| 05:55.03 | Xuerian | ckknight: pwn. |
| 05:55.10 | ckknight | there's also a way to bring em in and out of game |
| 05:55.16 | Xuerian | Oh? |
| 05:55.17 | ckknight | so both ways |
| 05:55.23 | ckknight | one's for copy-pasting to forums |
| 05:55.27 | Gngsk | ckknight, what about layouts specific to certain bigwigs bosses? |
| 05:55.32 | Funkeh` | ckknight: next i want live guild streaming music |
| 05:55.34 | ckknight | Gngsk: nope |
| 05:55.43 | Funkeh` | GuildRadio |
| 05:55.44 | ckknight | Gngsk: also completely different subject |
| 05:55.50 | ckknight | one's for sending to guildies/groups/players |
| 05:55.57 | Xuerian | Nice. Now.... for.... threat bar :D |
| 05:56.01 | ckknight | um |
| 05:56.07 | ckknight | it's been in there for a while |
| 05:56.09 | Xuerian | ... |
| 05:56.10 | Xuerian | lies. |
| 05:56.12 | NightHawkTheSane | Funkeh`: thats pretty easy to set up you know :P |
| 05:56.12 | Xuerian | >_> |
| 05:56.28 | ckknight | Xuerian: seeing as I've been hacking on Threat-1.0 and PitBull, it's not too far-fetched |
| 05:56.32 | Funkeh` | the scary fact is you are right |
| 05:56.38 | Antiarc | Starting WoW back up. |
| 05:56.40 | NightHawkTheSane | whats so scary about it? :P |
| 05:56.52 | NightHawkTheSane | i mean, aside from some people's horrendous taste in music. |
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| 05:57.27 | Xuerian | Hm. |
| 05:57.43 | ckknight | Funkeh`: hrm? |
| 05:58.13 | Funkeh` | ckknight: was just discussing how bad it would be to listen to NightHawkTheSane on a streaing guild radio |
| 05:58.36 | NightHawkTheSane | yeah, i can barely even tolerate listening to myself |
| 05:59.52 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r40811 10PitBull/PitBull.lua: PitBull - fix messages when sending comm |
| 06:00.29 | xt | what is PB using comms for? |
| 06:00.47 | NimbleRabit | so why is it cartographer just like..chagnes a bit |
| 06:00.51 | NimbleRabit | when I press alt+m |
| 06:00.52 | NightHawkTheSane | xt: selling your secrets to the KGB. |
| 06:00.54 | NimbleRabit | instead of closing/opening like normal |
| 06:00.59 | NightHawkTheSane | NimbleRabit: alternate map. |
| 06:01.08 | xt | NightHawkTheSane: i'm already a KGB agent... |
| 06:01.22 | NightHawkTheSane | xt: then you know how dangerous it is to sell your secrets to them! |
| 06:02.08 | NimbleRabit | NightHawkTheSane: can I turn it off? |
| 06:02.13 | NimbleRabit | it's pretty darn annoying |
| 06:02.31 | NightHawkTheSane | Nickenyfiken: uh, maybe unbind the key? don't press alt-m? ask ckknight nicely? |
| 06:02.55 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r40812 10PitBull/PitBull.lua: PitBull - fix typo |
| 06:03.16 | xt | NightHawkTheSane: it's for sending layouts! |
| 06:03.17 | ckknight | never! |
| 06:03.33 | NightHawkTheSane | xt: yes, sending them to the KGB! |
| 06:03.34 | ckknight | NimbleRabit: alt-m makes the profile change between Default and Alternate |
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| 06:04.22 | NimbleRabit | I guess I'll look for it in keybindings and get rid of it |
| 06:04.30 | NimbleRabit | I use alt for vent so it's aggravating =P |
| 06:05.10 | NightHawkTheSane | You're one of those people who keeps toggling on their voice while they play, because they use alt a lot in game. :P |
| 06:05.16 | NimbleRabit | no |
| 06:05.18 | NimbleRabit | I don't use alt in game |
| 06:05.26 | Velkyn | So..this "internet dropping when I log into wow" (just tested and it happens w/o mods and w/o opening bags) can anyone help? |
| 06:05.31 | NimbleRabit | I limit myself to shift and ctrl for keybindings |
| 06:05.45 | Jaxon | Velkyn: that doesn't sound like a WoW problem, that sounds like an OS problem. |
| 06:05.50 | *** join/#wowace Athou (n=ask@208.181-65-87.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be) |
| 06:05.53 | CIA-22 | 03funkydude * r40813 10Cartographer/ (Cartographer.toc embeds.xml modules.xml): Cartographer: use embeds.xml and modules.xml |
| 06:06.11 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r40814 10PitBull/PitBull_MetaLayout.lua: PitBull_MetaLayout - bugfixings. |
| 06:06.26 | NimbleRabit | btw ckknight |
| 06:06.29 | ckknight | yes? |
| 06:06.32 | NimbleRabit | the new options menu in pitbull |
| 06:06.33 | NimbleRabit | owns |
| 06:06.34 | NimbleRabit | so much |
| 06:06.37 | *** join/#wowace [ND] (n=andy@h062040167062.gun.cm.kabsi.at) |
| 06:06.48 | Velkyn | Jaxon: It only happens on one character.... it makes no sense :( |
| 06:06.49 | NimbleRabit | I was extremely happy when I alt+clicked my party frame and it was actually easy to navigate |
| 06:06.56 | *** join/#wowace MoonWolf (n=MoonWolf@89.98.118.158) |
| 06:06.56 | *** mode/#wowace [+o MoonWolf] by ChanServ |
| 06:09.06 | ckknight | NimbleRabit: :-) |
| 06:14.14 | TecnoBrat | wtf, Interface\FrameXML\ChatFrame.lua is spewing errors like no tomorrow |
| 06:14.27 | TecnoBrat | 5600 and counting! |
| 06:16.01 | Athou | my blankspace texts are still missing :( |
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| 06:16.37 | CIA-22 | 03funkydude * r40815 10PitBull/ (PitBull.toc embeds.xml modules.xml): PitBull: use embeds.xml and modules.xml |
| 06:16.42 | ckknight | Athou: deal |
| 06:16.48 | ckknight | I'll get to it when I get to it |
| 06:16.57 | ckknight | I have no motivation to preempt my doing it |
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| 06:17.16 | TecnoBrat | ckknight, no, you must do it NOW! ... cause .. you are being paid $0 an hour, now get to work! |
| 06:17.17 | TecnoBrat | :P |
| 06:18.04 | symian | Hi. I'm looking to find out about key bindings. I think I understand the SetBinding() API, accept that it's not what I want to do. What I want, is to add an entry to the key binding page so the USER can set a key binding. |
| 06:18.20 | symian | How might one do that? |
| 06:18.50 | Silviu- | Funkeh` so if i run Pitbull disembed i can safely delete modules.xml along with embeds.xml right ? |
| 06:19.07 | Funkeh` | Silviu-: if you run the altest WAU it will do that for you |
| 06:19.09 | Xuerian | Wtb [Floating cast bar] :D |
| 06:19.11 | Funkeh` | latest* |
| 06:19.15 | ckknight | Xuerian: Quartz |
| 06:19.21 | Xuerian | ckknight: Well no not what I mean =X |
| 06:19.32 | Silviu- | Funkeh` i run svn and i am modifieng my script to delete it ;p |
| 06:19.33 | Xuerian | I mean, one that attaches to a position, but displace other frames :P |
| 06:20.00 | Funkeh` | Silviu-: you can't delete modules.xml if you don't run LoD |
| 06:20.11 | Silviu- | And if i run i can :) |
| 06:20.15 | Funkeh` | indeed |
| 06:20.20 | Silviu- | Ok thx that i wanted to know ;p |
| 06:20.27 | TecnoBrat | can someone smarter than me look at this? http://ace.pastey.net/57181 |
| 06:20.38 | TecnoBrat | its errors in ChatFrame.lua |
| 06:20.45 | TecnoBrat | I'm thinking a blizz bug .. but I dont know |
| 06:21.01 | Xuerian | Like, ok. For my focus, it's a large (30x30) portrait with 4 high mana/health below it. Cast bar on the top. Which it looks really cool, already. It'd be nifty if it could just appear over the portrait during casts and fade out to the nothing it already does when inactive. -- It's not a dealbreaker by any means, but It would be cool :D |
| 06:21.02 | Funkeh` | thats been there sice 2.1? |
| 06:21.03 | Funkeh` | macro bug |
| 06:21.08 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r40816 10PitBull/PitBull_MetaLayout.lua: PitBull_MetaLayout - bugfix in exporting layout icon positions |
| 06:21.12 | TecnoBrat | Just started today |
| 06:21.19 | *** join/#wowace Elkano (i=Elkano@client00941.vpn.uni-saarland.de) |
| 06:21.22 | TecnoBrat | I just had 5000 errors in bugsack |
| 06:21.41 | ckknight | Xuerian: inner frames aren't meant to overlap |
| 06:22.01 | TecnoBrat | I just restarted wow .. already up to 166, and it keeps disabling bugsack |
| 06:22.01 | NightHawkTheSane | its a macro bug, and pretty obviously that your doing something like [target=vij] |
| 06:22.01 | Xuerian | ckknight: I kinda figured :( |
| 06:22.02 | symian | Can anyone tell me about key bindings? |
| 06:22.06 | TecnoBrat | NightHawkTheSane, sure am, worked fine pre-patch .. guess I will report it |
| 06:22.11 | ckknight | symian: nope |
| 06:22.24 | symian | ckknight, that's an awful bummer. Is there a reason? |
| 06:22.31 | ckknight | cause I don't know about em |
| 06:22.32 | NimbleRabit | holy smokse that was fast |
| 06:22.35 | ckknight | I think I used it once |
| 06:22.37 | ckknight | in Cartographer |
| 06:22.39 | NimbleRabit | oops, mt |
| 06:22.51 | symian | I see. Ok, thanks. |
| 06:22.58 | NightHawkTheSane | symian: you could look at other mods that have key bindings |
| 06:25.23 | Silviu- | ckknight to the import layout u can add an close button ? ;p |
| 06:26.01 | ckknight | Silviu-: you're probably right. |
| 06:26.34 | CIA-22 | 03antiarc * r40817 10Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0.lua: Threat-1.0: Solved an issue that caused global threat to not be reported correctly after a mob reset. |
| 06:26.36 | Silviu- | I was trying this new feature and now can`t close it ^^ |
| 06:26.46 | xt | Antiarc: still saw the update issue yesterday :/ |
| 06:26.55 | Dynom | [Liq]^Away: me |
| 06:26.58 | xt | as in..we cant use Threat reliable at all |
| 06:26.59 | Antiarc | xt: The clear -> rebuild one? |
| 06:27.04 | xt | no |
| 06:27.09 | xt | the "stopping to send updates" one |
| 06:27.21 | Antiarc | Oh. Hrm. |
| 06:27.35 | grennon | used threat on gruul tonight |
| 06:27.42 | *** join/#wowace Adirelle (n=gperreal@tok69-5-82-235-150-60.fbx.proxad.net) |
| 06:27.49 | CIA-22 | 03funkydude * r40818 10Babble-2.2/ (Babble-2.2.toc modules.xml): Babble-2.2: use a modules.xml file |
| 06:27.54 | xt | Happened for myself as well, I tanked on KaelThas yesterday. And the shadowpriest complained he couldnt se my threat |
| 06:27.57 | grennon | i got hurtful strike at 5 percent with about 30k less threat than the OT, i suspect he moved out of the hitbox |
| 06:27.58 | xt | I saw his, and my own correct |
| 06:29.02 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r40819 10PitBull/PitBull_MetaLayout.lua: |
| 06:29.02 | CIA-22 | PitBull_MetaLayout - make it so texts can properly attach to the blank space. |
| 06:29.02 | CIA-22 | - fix bug with texts not showing up. |
| 06:29.56 | [Liquidor] | Dynom: you what? |
| 06:31.43 | NightHawkTheSane | hehe.. "Airline representative: Paging La... La-gua-ti-ne Pu-ra-na-ma-te? Paging... Eh, I know I messed that one up. If your name rhymes with the one I just said or it sounds at all like yours, please come to the desk." |
| 06:31.45 | Dynom | 00:51 #wowace: < [Liquidor]> Anyone watching Stargate Atlantis ? |
| 06:31.58 | kaiden | ugh wt.. getting error 132's when trying to open the AH now :( |
| 06:35.35 | Adirelle | nevcairiel: ping ? |
| 06:35.52 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r40820 10PitBull/PitBull.lua: PitBull - add a close button to the import window. |
| 06:36.16 | theoddone33 | I think I'm going to try to make a pitbull module that lets me set a mark at a various point on a mana/energy bar |
| 06:36.22 | theoddone33 | not sure if anyone else would find it useful |
| 06:36.22 | kaiden | looks like the addon AuctionSort is causing error 132's |
| 06:36.25 | theoddone33 | should be trivial though |
| 06:36.26 | kaiden | crashing wow |
| 06:36.34 | kaiden | could be wrong though, but as soon as i disabled it.. they stopped |
| 06:38.16 | Adirelle | antiarc, Antiarc|Work : ping ? |
| 06:38.21 | Antiarc | Pong |
| 06:38.31 | CIA-22 | 03funkydude * r40821 10Quartz/ (Quartz.toc embeds.xml modules.xml): Quartz: use embeds.xml and modules.xml |
| 06:38.46 | ZealotOnAStick | Antiarc, I saw the "classes the wrong bar colors" thing tonight for the first time. |
| 06:39.07 | Adirelle | antiarc: could you review KTM output ? (cf. officiel thread) would you like I commit it or will you do ? |
| 06:39.12 | Antiarc | ZealotOnAStick: Working on that as we speak |
| 06:39.26 | Antiarc | Adirelle: I will when I get a chance - neck-deep in bugs at the moment :) |
| 06:39.30 | Antiarc | I'd like to move on that quickly though |
| 06:40.07 | Antiarc | Is there a clean way to tell if a unit ID is a valid unit token? |
| 06:40.14 | Antiarc | Or am I going to end up pcalling it? |
| 06:40.35 | Adirelle | Antiarc: oki, so I just wait. I'll prepare TTK in the meantine. |
| 06:40.48 | Antiarc | Okay. Awesome work moving so fast. Sorry I haven't been of more help! |
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| 06:41.39 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r40822 10PitBull/PitBull.lua: PitBull - change some text messages |
| 06:43.32 | Adirelle | antiarc: np, once I check how it worked in TTK, wasn't too hard to hook it into ThreatLib |
| 06:44.10 | ckknight | Antiarc: there's a way, by using hax |
| 06:44.10 | CIA-22 | 03funkydude * r40823 10SpecialEventsEmbed/ (SpecialEventsEmbed.toc embeds.xml modules.xml): SpecialEventsEmbed: use embeds.xml and modules.xml |
| 06:44.15 | Adirelle | Antiarc: in fact it was simplier to put it in ThreatLib, 'cause I can hook it directly in the good methods, without need to have my own repeating events, party data and the like |
| 06:44.18 | ckknight | Antiarc: I added it to RosterLib |
| 06:44.24 | ckknight | Antiarc: steal the code from there |
| 06:44.29 | ckknight | LegitimateUnits |
| 06:44.33 | Antiarc | Aight |
| 06:45.33 | Adirelle | Antiarc: btw, is really the pet AP threshold "rank threat + level" ? oO |
| 06:45.45 | Antiarc | Adirelle: As close as I can tell, yes. At least for hunters. |
| 06:45.57 | Antiarc | I think that doesn't work for warlocks |
| 06:46.02 | Antiarc | But I've been collecting hunter data for the last four days |
| 06:46.11 | Antiarc | And that matches -really- closely |
| 06:46.48 | CIA-22 | 03funkydude * r40824 10PeriodicTable-3.0/ (PeriodicTable-3.0.toc modules.xml): PeriodicTable-3.0: use modules.xml |
| 06:46.55 | Adirelle | that should explain why you got funny numbers at lower level |
| 06:47.30 | Antiarc | Yup |
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| 06:48.55 | Funkeh` | well i think thats all my LoD addons done |
| 06:49.19 | Funkeh` | hopefully i broke something so i can fix it |
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| 06:52.25 | Adirelle | Antiarc: if I get it right, growl rank 7 AP threshold is 485 at level 70 against 734 for rank 8 ? |
| 06:52.52 | Mech0z | is that the threat it generates? |
| 06:52.54 | Adirelle | Antiarc: that would mean using growl rank 7 would allow to generate far more threat due to AP threshold ? |
| 06:53.29 | Adirelle | Mech0z: not, this threshold is the minimum AP of the pet to have a threat bonus from AP |
| 06:53.44 | Mech0z | oh okay |
| 06:53.56 | Mech0z | but your saying its possible that rank 7 is better at high lvl? |
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| 06:54.15 | sag_ich_nicht | in b4 bugreport & changes happening to that. |
| 06:54.46 | Adirelle | Mech0z: with the current ThreatLib calculation, it could, but I think there is additonnal restriction in Blizzard code |
| 06:54.59 | Mech0z | okay |
| 06:55.05 | Funkeh` | gonna take a break catch ya all later |
| 06:55.06 | Mech0z | would seem strange |
| 06:55.12 | Adirelle | Mech0z: yep |
| 06:55.33 | Mech0z | but then again scorpid poisen rank 4 is normally better than rank 5 :p so it happens |
| 06:55.43 | Adirelle | Mech0z: ATM, formula is : if pet AP > threshold, then add 5.7*(pet AP - threshold) |
| 06:56.31 | Mech0z | then rank 7 should give a hell lot |
| 06:56.34 | Xuerian | ckknight: Madness! http://i12.tinypic.com/6c4w809.png -- Party config mode left, in combat right. |
| 06:56.52 | Adirelle | e.g. if you pet had 834 AP at level 70 with growl rank 8, it would get 570 more threat from AP, that would result to a total of 1234 threat |
| 06:57.01 | Adirelle | this is confirmed |
| 06:57.19 | CIA-22 | 03hegarol * r40825 10AtlasLoot/ (Instances/burningcrusade.en.lua PvP/GeneralPvP.en.lua): |
| 06:57.19 | CIA-22 | AtlasLoot: |
| 06:57.19 | CIA-22 | - Raid loot upgrade |
| 06:57.19 | CIA-22 | - PvP price adjusting |
| 06:57.25 | ckknight | Xuerian: where's the madness? |
| 06:58.01 | Adirelle | now, rank 7 would have a threshold of 485 |
| 06:58.17 | Xuerian | ckknight: Or is that just me not grasping how config most is supposed to work? Config shows debuffs stacking topright -> upleft and buffs topleft -> upright, when it's the reverse in practice =X |
| 06:58.23 | Xuerian | s/most/mode/ |
| 06:58.39 | Xuerian | If I've got this wrong, I'm going to bed now >_o |
| 06:58.53 | Mech0z | just woke up :/ |
| 06:59.02 | Mech0z | for dentist visit :s |
| 06:59.14 | Adirelle | that would result to 5.7*349, e.g. 1989 more threat, for a total of 2404 :/ I think their is some kind of restriction |
| 06:59.18 | Xuerian | ckknight: Feel free to bash me over the head with a wiki page, but it just doesn't make sense >.< |
| 06:59.20 | Adirelle | s/their/therE/ |
| 06:59.41 | ckknight | Xuerian: nah, debuffs start from upleft -> bottomright |
| 06:59.49 | ckknight | Xuerian: buffs from bottomright -> topleft |
| 07:00.02 | Mech0z | well year 2404 woul make it tank pretty fucking well in instances :p |
| 07:00.32 | Mech0z | that would be 475 threat per second from growl alone |
| 07:00.37 | Adirelle | Mech0z: well, actually, do the calculation with a charging boar, having the 450 AP bonus when growling |
| 07:00.44 | Xuerian | Oh. Wait. |
| 07:01.04 | Adirelle | Mech0z: to save your time : the result is ~4500 with charge rank 6 and growl rank 8 |
| 07:01.13 | Xuerian | ckknight: So each layer of auras will be 'collapsed' down until space is used up, at which point they'll begin folding? |
| 07:01.17 | Mech0z | cant remember how the boar skill work :/ dont have one because IAm all too lazy to lvl one up |
| 07:01.22 | Mech0z | lol |
| 07:01.26 | ckknight | yes |
| 07:01.31 | Xuerian | ckknight: Yeah. It's bedtime. |
| 07:01.32 | Xuerian | >_< |
| 07:01.35 | Antiarc | Adirelle: Hrm. You're right. |
| 07:01.56 | Antiarc | And boars are ending up with about 4.2k threat with a charge+growl |
| 07:01.57 | Antiarc | It's insane |
| 07:02.01 | Mech0z | but Xuerian as yourself I doubt this is correct because thats pretty insane :s |
| 07:02.05 | Adirelle | Mech0z: charge gives an AP bonus 450 until any damage is done, and generally the boar growls just after charge, but before doing any damage |
| 07:02.16 | Mech0z | ok |
| 07:02.18 | Xuerian | Mech0z: Rephrase for 200. |
| 07:02.27 | Mech0z | TBW would not affect the threat right? |
| 07:02.42 | Mech0z | but also a blessing of might would buff it a lot |
| 07:02.46 | Adirelle | Mech0z: boar are just the ultimate aggro holder for farming :p |
| 07:02.50 | Adirelle | Mech0z: right |
| 07:02.59 | Mech0z | this might be why they sometimes take aggro from tanks if you forget to take it off autocast |
| 07:03.17 | Mech0z | but I dunno how to test this |
| 07:03.44 | Mech0z | Adirelle plus that charge is sweet when your farming |
| 07:04.00 | Mech0z | so you dont pull the initial aggro |
| 07:04.39 | Adirelle | Mech0z: charging and growling boars *always* take aggro from tank in the first seconds of a fight, never forget to take growl off :p |
| 07:04.42 | Mech0z | bah get those EU servers up alllready |
| 07:04.52 | Mech0z | hehe |
| 07:05.26 | Adirelle | Mech0z: though a tank taunting after the boar charged would have its own threat going to top |
| 07:05.36 | Mech0z | yes ofc |
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| 07:05.49 | Mech0z | but tanks still get pissed :) |
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| 07:06.13 | Adirelle | yep |
| 07:06.44 | Mech0z | uh lft get doomwalker gun |
| 07:06.49 | Mech0z | are you BM or ? |
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| 07:06.54 | Iceroth | well no shit, you've wasted at least 2 GCDs because some huntard couldn't l2p |
| 07:07.02 | Mech0z | Iceroth :D |
| 07:07.11 | Adirelle | that's why I have got a non-growling tiger for heroic/raid : won't never OT |
| 07:07.21 | yacoob | nice kitty? |
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| 07:07.32 | Adirelle | Mech0z: no, 20/41/0 |
| 07:07.41 | Mech0z | bah but MM gives shitty dam :( |
| 07:07.50 | Mech0z | even if you make perfect shotrotations |
| 07:08.04 | Mech0z | althoguh some fights kills your pet then it is better.. |
| 07:08.28 | Adirelle | I found the two SS's was very, very usefull |
| 07:08.54 | Mech0z | ? silenceshot? |
| 07:08.59 | Adirelle | and scatter shot |
| 07:09.02 | Mech0z | oh |
| 07:09.15 | Mech0z | year in heroics but close to useless in 25man |
| 07:09.26 | Adirelle | I don't do 25man |
| 07:09.29 | Mech0z | I loved my trap pvp build in heroics |
| 07:09.31 | Mech0z | oh ok |
| 07:09.35 | Adirelle | and I rarely get into KZ |
| 07:09.46 | Mech0z | well ok :p then I dunno |
| 07:10.02 | Iceroth | our MM huntard does decent dmg in 25mnas too |
| 07:10.25 | Mech0z | Iceroth got any dps meter from hydross by any chance? |
| 07:11.05 | Mech0z | Iceroth maybe they do but compared to BM they shouldnt on petfriendly boss' which many of the currect encounteres are |
| 07:11.06 | Iceroth | Mech0z, don't have any saved.. we killed him 1st time yesterday |
| 07:11.10 | Mech0z | who? |
| 07:11.31 | Iceroth | hydross |
| 07:11.34 | Mech0z | oh okay |
| 07:11.48 | Mech0z | we failed because of our shitty dot's who take aggro... |
| 07:11.54 | Mech0z | at least we took kazzak :s |
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| 07:12.22 | Mech0z | but at 40-60% I have 1050 dps closets was a shadowpriest if you remove the AOE's |
| 07:13.06 | Adirelle | anyway, gtg |
| 07:13.17 | Iceroth | our bm hunter is more of a pvp type, his pve dmg isn't that great.. generally they all are at around the same level |
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| 07:14.02 | vhaarr | there's only one good hunter in the world, and he's in my guild |
| 07:14.15 | Mech0z | vhaarr well thats a load of bull |
| 07:14.21 | Mech0z | at least I want evidence |
| 07:14.49 | vhaarr | join us for ssc then, you'll see |
| 07:14.54 | vhaarr | magtheridon eu |
| 07:14.56 | theoddone33 | man I could really use a severance for leveling |
| 07:15.07 | theoddone33 | I want to throw together a bunch of 70s and kill patchwerk a few times |
| 07:15.16 | theoddone33 | probably not worth the attunement though |
| 07:15.23 | vhaarr | theoddone33: then you're in luck! |
| 07:15.27 | Mech0z | vhaarr your nihilum? |
| 07:15.32 | vhaarr | they removed the attunement from naxx with tbc |
| 07:15.40 | theoddone33 | they did? |
| 07:15.40 | vhaarr | Mech0z: I'm alliance |
| 07:15.43 | Mech0z | ok |
| 07:15.44 | vhaarr | they removed the attunement from naxx with tbc |
| 07:15.47 | vhaarr | they removed the attunement from naxx with tbc |
| 07:15.48 | theoddone33 | hm I did'nt know that |
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| 07:16.07 | theoddone33 | I wonder how many 70s it would take |
| 07:16.09 | SunTiger | vhaar, proof ? |
| 07:16.10 | xystic | Just a thought; with all this work on threat metrics... have you guys determined the best talent build for a warrior MT? |
| 07:16.17 | vhaarr | SunTiger: poof! |
| 07:16.25 | AnduinLothar | we did the first boss with 20 ez mode a few days ago |
| 07:16.34 | vhaarr | AnduinLothar: well |
| 07:16.41 | vhaarr | AnduinLothar: Patchwerk doesn't really compare to the rest of Naxx. |
| 07:16.49 | AnduinLothar | no, not patch |
| 07:16.50 | vhaarr | Even at 70, you'll need to actually focus to kill him, I think. |
| 07:16.53 | AnduinLothar | we did anub |
| 07:16.55 | Mech0z | Well vhaarr if he does more damage then an equal equiped BM hunter on petfriendly boss' then the bm hunter aint good enough at pressing his steadyshot macro |
| 07:16.56 | vhaarr | right |
| 07:16.57 | vhaarr | he's cake |
| 07:16.59 | SunTiger | patchwork takes tank and spank to a whole new level. |
| 07:17.18 | vhaarr | Mech0z: actually he actually specced BM and upped his damage output slightly |
| 07:17.21 | Mech0z | do you need to kill anythign to try patchwerk |
| 07:17.30 | Mech0z | vhaarr ok |
| 07:17.30 | vhaarr | Mech0z: just some trash |
| 07:17.42 | vhaarr | the totem trash ... brrr |
| 07:17.57 | Mech0z | I never been inside nax ;( |
| 07:17.59 | Iceroth | i hated the slimes most |
| 07:18.05 | Mech0z | only killed c'thun once in old world |
| 07:18.06 | vhaarr | Iceroth: KILL THE TOTEM PLEASE |
| 07:18.14 | Iceroth | oh ye :) |
| 07:18.15 | CIA-22 | 03antiarc * r40826 10Omen/ (Omen.lua OmenDisplay.lua): Omen: Rewrote the bar creation code. Should fix the bar coloring problems, problems with KTM users not being properly flagged, and improves performance, to boot. Also fixed the bar animations. |
| 07:18.24 | Iceroth | but still the slimes.. ewww |
| 07:18.31 | Mech0z | uhh nice omen fixes |
| 07:18.37 | CIA-22 | 03toadkiller * r40827 10PeriodicTable-3.0/ (2 files in 2 dirs): |
| 07:18.37 | CIA-22 | PeriodicTable-3.0: |
| 07:18.37 | CIA-22 | -- 31386 Staff of Parshah, 32578:2000 Charged Crystal Focus |
| 07:18.42 | vhaarr | well they didn't wipe your raid, they just killed keyboardturneres |
| 07:18.43 | vhaarr | -e |
| 07:18.50 | xystic | would a 70 warrior wearing something like the Bold set be an alright tank in Nax? |
| 07:19.01 | tsigo | Antiarc: would that be the problem I saw earlier with one of our warriors running KTM was colored as a rogue? |
| 07:19.05 | vhaarr | xystic: naxx is a cakewalk at 70, except for patchwerk |
| 07:19.08 | Iceroth | sure they did wipe the raid when some nub went too clsoe to the room when we were on the other side already |
| 07:19.09 | AnduinLothar | thx for the help btw vhaarr. got a lil something to show for it: http://www.cosmosui.org/showthread.php?p=63210 |
| 07:19.15 | xystic | ah, ok |
| 07:19.15 | vhaarr | AnduinLothar: cool |
| 07:19.21 | vhaarr | AnduinLothar: cosmos?! |
| 07:19.23 | vhaarr | lol |
| 07:19.23 | xystic | what about Karazhan? |
| 07:19.31 | Antiarc | tsigo: should |
| 07:19.40 | vhaarr | AnduinLothar: you're actually working on that? |
| 07:19.43 | AnduinLothar | didn't know who you were helping, eh? |
| 07:19.54 | vhaarr | AnduinLothar: that's right! |
| 07:20.00 | AnduinLothar | lol |
| 07:20.11 | vhaarr | AnduinLothar: anyway, your link just takes me to a post by karlkfi that says "Fixed . . . . . ." |
| 07:20.11 | ckknight | lol. |
| 07:20.18 | AnduinLothar | good. you were prolly more friendly |
| 07:20.21 | ckknight | AnduinLothar = KarlKFI |
| 07:20.24 | vhaarr | nah I'm j/k |
| 07:20.28 | Mech0z | bah wowaceupdater wont get the new oemn |
| 07:20.32 | Mech0z | omen* |
| 07:20.34 | Antiarc | Mech0z: It takes 20 minutes |
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| 07:20.51 | Mech0z | also on the website? |
| 07:20.53 | Antiarc | check out from SVN if you need it right now :) |
| 07:20.54 | Antiarc | yes |
| 07:21.02 | xystic | actually, I'll rephrase my question a bit better: If you were taking a warrior tank into Karazhan (who was going in for the first time) - what equipment would you want him to be wearing at a minimum? |
| 07:21.08 | vhaarr | AnduinLothar: I can post in random forums saying "Fixed . . . " as well, but it doesn't really provide people who don't know the context with anything of value |
| 07:21.10 | Mech0z | nah dont think we doing any raids when realms get up :D |
| 07:21.18 | Mech0z | so can get it tonight for gruul/mag |
| 07:21.23 | AnduinLothar | lol |
| 07:21.27 | |dRiN| | Is there an ace addon that i could use for getting a good notifier one of my selfbuffs dropped? |
| 07:21.32 | Mech0z | and hope our tank would not mind installing threat :p |
| 07:21.33 | AnduinLothar | it's in response to gryphon's thread |
| 07:21.36 | |dRiN| | Is there an ace addon that i could use for getting a good notifier when one of my selfbuffs dropped?* |
| 07:21.37 | AnduinLothar | post* |
| 07:21.52 | xystic | Fine, ignore me then. :P |
| 07:22.01 | AnduinLothar | there was an issue with the dropdown formats conflicting |
| 07:22.32 | vhaarr | AnduinLothar: well good job, I know the aceoptions table can be tricky |
| 07:22.34 | tsigo | xystic: the best 5-man stuff he can get? not really any other options, except maybe arena gear |
| 07:22.39 | AnduinLothar | i fixed it for ordered and unordered lists, not sure if map's work tho |
| 07:22.45 | vhaarr | AnduinLothar: I think you should test with some other addons, though |
| 07:23.04 | vhaarr | addons that use more of the aceoptions 'spec' |
| 07:23.07 | AnduinLothar | of course. Those are just ones i had running already |
| 07:23.16 | xystic | tsigo: Ah, ok -thanks (just wondering if people had a list somewhere of stuff that constitutes good pre-kara tanking gear) |
| 07:23.21 | Mech0z | wonder when my guild will change to omen :/ |
| 07:23.41 | tsigo | xystic: http://wow-loot.com/warrior.htm might |
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| 07:23.52 | Eyes-t | Sup |
| 07:24.05 | AnduinLothar | was hoping i could get one of you with 200 some ace addons to try it, but my guess is at least one of them would break it |
| 07:24.13 | xystic | if for no other reason, then only because Kenco's attitude on the curse site horrified me |
| 07:24.17 | Iceroth | xystic, it's not that heavy to tank, you don't need any *special* tanking gear, 10k+ hp i'd keep as minimum though (unbuffed) for a smooth ride |
| 07:24.17 | Eyes-t | did you guys read about that guy amulet getting owned by a blue on the forums |
| 07:24.29 | vhaarr | AnduinLothar: so I can just download the zip linked there and .. what would I get, then? |
| 07:24.34 | vhaarr | AnduinLothar: if I have -no other- khaos stuff |
| 07:24.54 | xystic | (not to mention he was totally wrong about the QueryPerformanceCounter vs. GetTickCount thing - the former _is_ available on 98, but even on either OS, has no guarantee of microsecond resolution) |
| 07:25.08 | AnduinLothar | grab the standalone khaos and the Ace2Khaos and it should put all your ace2 mods in the Khaos config |
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| 07:25.21 | xystic | Iceroth, tsigo: thanks |
| 07:25.47 | AnduinLothar | granted, they're not sorted by category, cause khaos has it's own categories and i didn't really want to interminge them just yet |
| 07:25.51 | Eyes-t | also Im looking for a mod that blocks all invites, tells and from certain levels |
| 07:26.35 | AnduinLothar | Khaos can be opened by a button on the esc menu |
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| 07:27.57 | AnduinLothar | and atm the Ace addons don't really do anything if you put them in different configurations, because Khaos doesn't actually update the settings itself, just gets/sets the live ones. |
| 07:28.46 | AnduinLothar | just a bit of a paradigm difference, since Ace addons save their own config variables |
| 07:29.29 | AnduinLothar | so they don't like it if you call ALL of the sets after loading |
| 07:29.40 | theoddone33 | hm I need to be in a raid to get into naxx |
| 07:29.52 | theoddone33 | lmae |
| 07:30.06 | Xuerian | Ace2 options in Khaos? |
| 07:30.57 | Xuerian | :3 |
| 07:31.17 | AnduinLothar | Sure. got a bunch of Cosmos user that use a few Ace addons. And the whole idea of Khaos in the first place was to be able to configure all your addons in one place. |
| 07:31.44 | Xuerian | SortakindalikeNiagara? |
| 07:31.59 | AnduinLothar | um, except Khaos was first |
| 07:32.03 | pb_ee1 | FuBar/Waterfall ftw. |
| 07:32.03 | Xuerian | Well, of course. |
| 07:32.08 | theoddone33 | attunement was not taken off naxx :( I just tried |
| 07:32.23 | Xuerian | I'm not challenging the validity of Khaos, just likening it to what I'm more familiar with :) |
| 07:32.46 | AnduinLothar | just because you guys are anti-social and don't like supporting existing projects doesn't mean no one still updates legacy projects. |
| 07:32.51 | *** join/#wowace Athou (n=ask@208.181-65-87.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be) |
| 07:32.53 | Nickenyfiken | "the download is not authorized" when trying to download patch |
| 07:32.55 | Xuerian | 0_o |
| 07:32.56 | Nickenyfiken | wtf |
| 07:33.04 | AnduinLothar | :P |
| 07:33.38 | AnduinLothar | yeah. i can use hugs. i'm a bitter old addon writter |
| 07:33.45 | pb_ee1 | ^^ |
| 07:34.00 | ckknight | I don't hold much credence for being "first". That's like saying that we should still use horses because they came before automobiles |
| 07:34.01 | Xuerian | I have my own beefs with waterfall anyway. Standalone Khaos and A2K are all that's needed to test? |
| 07:34.09 | AnduinLothar | shush ckk |
| 07:34.20 | AnduinLothar | yeah Xuer |
| 07:34.28 | ckknight | what? All my mods are ripoffs of something else, then made better |
| 07:34.48 | AnduinLothar | right. and it makes me cry. no talking |
| 07:35.20 | ckknight | why does it make you cry? competition is a good thing |
| 07:35.42 | AnduinLothar | .... in capitolism it is |
| 07:35.48 | pb_ee1 | Khaos is a really cool idea, but it supposes that the AddOns are coded in a specific way |
| 07:35.51 | ckknight | woo, go capitalism! |
| 07:35.57 | vhaarr | AnduinLothar: I'll try it later, EU servers are down at the moment |
| 07:35.59 | AnduinLothar | but I'm not making any money... |
| 07:36.04 | ckknight | AnduinLothar: neither am I |
| 07:36.08 | AnduinLothar | so this aint capitolism |
| 07:36.09 | ckknight | so the playing field is level |
| 07:36.12 | ckknight | yea? so? |
| 07:36.20 | ckknight | btw, Capitalism, not Capitolism |
| 07:36.25 | Xuerian | >_> |
| 07:36.27 | vhaarr | AnduinLothar: I had no idea cosmos stuff was still in development, people are kind of just talking about cosmos in the past tense these days |
| 07:36.28 | Xuerian | Let's not pick fights, now. |
| 07:36.29 | AnduinLothar | lol pb_ee1 so does AceConsole |
| 07:36.34 | *** join/#wowace Ani| (n=Ani@86.56.51.7) |
| 07:36.48 | AnduinLothar | so do all libraries |
| 07:37.04 | pb_ee1 | AnduinLothar: I mean, if the addon is not Khaos-compatible, it will not be configurable with Khaos |
| 07:37.11 | AnduinLothar | till now |
| 07:37.13 | Xuerian | wtfnuggers. |
| 07:37.22 | vhaarr | pb_ee1: same goes for aceoptions -> deucecommander/niagara |
| 07:37.23 | pb_ee1 | AceConsole resolves the problem, but you can choose not to use it in your addon |
| 07:37.37 | AnduinLothar | it's still a standard format |
| 07:37.57 | AnduinLothar | and arguing against standard formats... is.. >.< |
| 07:38.07 | pb_ee1 | sure, but what I mean is that you do not have this standard format in "normal" addons (I am NOT saying it is not cool) |
| 07:38.20 | Xuerian | STANDARDS BE DAMNED! Anarchy! Chaos! Disorder! |
| 07:38.24 | AnduinLothar | ace addons are 'normal'? |
| 07:38.34 | Xuerian | AnduinLothar: you're in #wowace. |
| 07:38.36 | Xuerian | >_> |
| 07:38.40 | sylvanaar | AnduinLothar Cosmos was ahead of its time |
| 07:38.47 | ckknight | Cosmos was great back in the day |
| 07:39.01 | AnduinLothar | thx guys. i'm not dead |
| 07:39.06 | ckknight | the easy updater was a real seller |
| 07:39.08 | AnduinLothar | i dont need a eulogy |
| 07:39.16 | ckknight | but you've led such a nice life |
| 07:39.19 | Xuerian | Quiet, you |
| 07:39.24 | ckknight | and after all, it was your time |
| 07:39.33 | AnduinLothar | seee, ckk reall has it out for me |
| 07:39.43 | ckknight | ~whalestab AnduinLothar |
| 07:39.51 | purl | ACTION stabs AnduinLothar with a rather narrow and pointy whale named Montgomery |
| 07:39.51 | AnduinLothar | ~counter |
| 07:39.56 | ckknight | you have to whaleparry |
| 07:40.02 | AnduinLothar | mreh |
| 07:40.24 | Xuerian | AnduinLothar: Khaos came up with some reaaaly big weird thing I didn't screenshot >_<... but then I checked advanced options then unchecked, and it worked! :D. Trying it out. |
| 07:40.42 | AnduinLothar | eaaaly big weird thing I didn't screenshot? |
| 07:40.47 | pb_ee1 | ! ~whaleparry does really exist? :P |
| 07:40.52 | vhaarr | yes it does |
| 07:40.54 | AnduinLothar | liek an error? |
| 07:40.56 | pb_ee1 | rofl |
| 07:41.00 | vhaarr | ~whaleparry pb_ee1 |
| 07:41.00 | purl | ACTION uses a slightly less-huge but eminently more agile killer whale named Edwardo to parry pb_ee1's attacks. |
| 07:41.11 | pb_ee1 | I think i'm falling in love with purl |
| 07:41.13 | Xuerian | AnduinLothar: Like the options window with nothing in it but format strings >_> |
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| 07:41.26 | AnduinLothar | hmmm |
| 07:41.29 | pb_ee1 | ~logs |
| 07:41.29 | purl | from memory, logs is apt/ibot/infobot/jbot/purl all log daily to http://ibot.rikers.org/<channelname>/ where channelname is html encoded ie: %23debian | lines that start with a space are not shown | some channels have stats at http://ibot.rikers.org/stats/<channelname>.html.gz |
| 07:41.30 | AnduinLothar | interesting |
| 07:43.09 | AnduinLothar | no errors? |
| 07:43.11 | Xuerian | AnduinLothar: Well it seems to work for three mods, the ones that come up in the Ace2 category: Elkano's Buffbars, MobHealth3, and Supply&Demand |
| 07:43.21 | AnduinLothar | onyl 3 show up? |
| 07:43.35 | Xuerian | No errors, it's not having difficulty otherwise. All the others show up, but they're in the AddOns category, and don't yield a options page |
| 07:43.48 | [Liquidor] | http://aycu21.webshots.com/image/20460/2002138848646009891_rs.jpg |
| 07:43.50 | [Liquidor] | rofl |
| 07:43.55 | [Liquidor] | mages got owned |
| 07:43.58 | [Liquidor] | (again) |
| 07:44.06 | Xuerian | Haha |
| 07:44.07 | AnduinLothar | hmm, ok well the addons category is just the enable/disable ingame addon list |
| 07:44.14 | Elkano | EBB will most likely not show a large option page, too. or does it? |
| 07:44.27 | AnduinLothar | but unelss you only have those 3 ace addons more should be showing up |
| 07:44.41 | sylvanaar | wheres the link again? |
| 07:44.47 | Xuerian | AnduinLothar: over 100 Ace addons enabled I believe :P |
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| 07:45.14 | *** join/#wowace sbu (n=sb@dslb-084-056-144-225.pools.arcor-ip.net) |
| 07:45.17 | sylvanaar | i have 300+ once they are unpacked |
| 07:46.01 | AnduinLothar | does it print anythign to chat? |
| 07:46.11 | Xuerian | AnduinLothar: Nope. |
| 07:46.26 | Xuerian | AnduinLothar: Oh. Haha. |
| 07:46.26 | AnduinLothar | weird. |
| 07:46.27 | Xuerian | Errors. |
| 07:46.30 | AnduinLothar | :) |
| 07:46.38 | sylvanaar | linx |
| 07:46.40 | AnduinLothar | i knew it! |
| 07:46.41 | Xuerian | I'll pastey the unique ones, give me a minute >.< |
| 07:46.52 | AnduinLothar | sylvanaar of ace2khaos? |
| 07:46.56 | sylvanaar | yes |
| 07:47.26 | AnduinLothar | http://www.cosmosui.org/showthread.php?t=56804 |
| 07:47.28 | Xuerian | AnduinLothar: a |
| 07:47.29 | Xuerian | er. |
| 07:47.33 | Xuerian | http://ace.pastey.net/57184 |
| 07:47.51 | AnduinLothar | hmm |
| 07:47.55 | phyber | [Liquidor]: they got owned because the Warlock's versions has better stats? |
| 07:47.57 | sylvanaar | i used khaos/cosmos for so long |
| 07:48.17 | AnduinLothar | some addon must have a Tablet call in it's 'get' |
| 07:48.32 | AnduinLothar | or something weird |
| 07:48.41 | AnduinLothar | maybe a mis-passed self |
| 07:49.14 | Xuerian | Also, I wasn't presented with this "Please select initial configuration" on initial load =X |
| 07:49.30 | AnduinLothar | orly? |
| 07:49.35 | AnduinLothar | hmmm possibly due to error |
| 07:49.54 | AnduinLothar | yeah i should put these inside pcalls |
| 07:49.57 | Xuerian | Got it on a reload, though. More errors and a screenshot |
| 07:50.06 | [Liquidor] | phyber: not better, more. There's a miscalculation in the budget |
| 07:50.40 | phyber | perhaps it's just cheaper being a warlock ;) |
| 07:50.52 | [Liquidor] | Season 1 to 2: +6 sta, -7 int, +X something, +X something, +1000 armor |
| 07:51.00 | [Liquidor] | to a mage :/ |
| 07:51.03 | pb_ee1 | "Also Ace2 has groups of options within addons that are usually implemented with multi-level dropdowns, which Khaos doesn't have exactly (mostly because I think they're poor gui implementation)." |
| 07:51.05 | pb_ee1 | d'oh |
| 07:51.23 | Adirelle|Work | /ignore iceroth all |
| 07:51.33 | Adirelle|Work | hehe |
| 07:51.36 | Iceroth | o.o |
| 07:52.25 | AnduinLothar | they're fine in the slash commands pb, but multi-level dropdowns are poor configuration design according to my schooling |
| 07:52.34 | Xuerian | AnduinLothar: http://ace.pastey.net/57185 |
| 07:53.00 | Xuerian | They're certainly not HIG-compat, but they work :P |
| 07:53.05 | pb_ee1 | AnduinLothar: Ha I see ;p |
| 07:53.23 | AnduinLothar | ok Xuerian. I'm gonna put pcalsl around the 'get's and see if we can't trace some of those down |
| 07:53.29 | AnduinLothar | pcalls* |
| 07:53.33 | Xuerian | http://i16.tinypic.com/4xqopc0.png |
| 07:53.37 | sylvanaar | AnduinLothar it does some kind of subdirectory crawl or something |
| 07:53.44 | Xuerian | Same point as the errors were harvested from |
| 07:53.53 | AnduinLothar | ok. prolly due to the registration errors |
| 07:54.03 | pb_ee1 | Waterfall is a new way to display them. I think it can become a standard for addons configuration, but I'm not sure if it is really going to become the standard :P |
| 07:54.20 | Xuerian | AnduinLothar: And I can't stay up long >.o... Like... Ten more minutes :D |
| 07:54.26 | AnduinLothar | mk |
| 07:54.47 | sylvanaar | AnduinLothar it dies somewhere in prat's first module because it assumes that the options table is ready |
| 07:55.01 | pb_ee1 | The Fubar dropdowns are still the best way to save some space on your screen AND some memory |
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| 07:55.27 | AnduinLothar | only if you actually set those optiosn frequently. otherwise they don't need to be on screen all the time |
| 07:56.08 | AnduinLothar | you can click to open a config window just as easy as click to dropdown |
| 07:56.16 | sylvanaar | AnduinLothar http://ace.pastey.net/57186 |
| 07:56.56 | AnduinLothar | ok. i'll put in a check to make sure that exists before registering it |
| 07:57.18 | pb_ee1 | AnduinLothar: sure, but you can still see your screen with dropdowns (this message isn't a taunt :P). And I did not check, but I suppose dropdowns take up much less memory |
| 07:57.29 | Xuerian | AnduinLothar: The ToC dropdown will shoot off the top of the screen if it's too long |
| 07:57.32 | pb_ee1 | But I still think Khaos is a good idea |
| 07:57.44 | Xuerian | AnduinLothar: (XLoot: 37 entries >_o) |
| 07:58.00 | AnduinLothar | heh. yeah it wasn't really designed for that many. |
| 07:58.09 | AnduinLothar | i can make it locked to screen |
| 07:58.24 | [Liquidor] | HAHAHAHHAHAHAHA I love when blizz do that. Check out this item: http://armory.wow-europe.com/?#item-info.xml?i=24255 ... now look at the bonus !!! |
| 07:58.34 | sylvanaar | AnduinLothar its actually that you use validate differently, it has a special use |
| 07:58.45 | sbu | hm |
| 07:58.45 | Xuerian | AnduinLothar: Technically, it seems like you're using groups and gui-only text as the same type of separator in the toc index. If you added a second dropdown level for groups instead of all in one level, it'd work fine |
| 07:58.50 | sbu | [Liquidor]: old bonus? |
| 07:59.00 | Xuerian | AnduinLothar: Though I suppose that would be too much jerry-rigging. |
| 07:59.04 | [Liquidor] | no clue but rofl if that's the one |
| 07:59.08 | AnduinLothar | yeah Xuer. but that sturcture doesn't exist in Khaos |
| 07:59.17 | pb_ee1 | [Liquidor]: rofl |
| 07:59.29 | sylvanaar | For what its worth, altnames options for prat look good, just dies at the end of altnames |
| 07:59.34 | pb_ee1 | I hope they forgot the "%" char :D |
| 08:00.32 | Xuerian | AnduinLothar: Anyhow, it looks good so far =). Bed time now though. |
| 08:00.40 | pb_ee1 | Xuerian: nn ;) |
| 08:00.50 | pb_ee1 | What time is it in US? |
| 08:00.50 | AnduinLothar | thx |
| 08:00.54 | AnduinLothar | 1am |
| 08:00.58 | NimbleRabit | OMG |
| 08:01.00 | [Liquidor] | oh that's late |
| 08:01.00 | pb_ee1 | d'oh |
| 08:01.03 | [Liquidor] | go to bed |
| 08:01.03 | NimbleRabit | pitbull tells me how long somebody has been a ghost |
| 08:01.04 | NimbleRabit | so awesome |
| 08:01.06 | Xuerian | That's US-West |
| 08:01.07 | ckknight | pb_ee1: 10 PM for me :-P |
| 08:01.10 | ckknight | NimbleRabit: hehe, yea ;-) |
| 08:01.12 | Xuerian | US-East is 4:00am |
| 08:01.13 | Xuerian | :) |
| 08:01.17 | ckknight | NimbleRabit: also does Offline and AFK |
| 08:01.26 | NimbleRabit | so awesome |
| 08:01.26 | [Liquidor] | Paris: 10:00 am |
| 08:01.30 | pb_ee1 | ckknight: rofl, I forgot that the US were so big :P |
| 08:01.36 | pb_ee1 | [Liquidor]: Living in Paris? |
| 08:01.36 | NimbleRabit | it's things like this that make pitbull just so much better than default |
| 08:01.39 | [Liquidor] | It's like Russia |
| 08:01.46 | [Liquidor] | over there in the US |
| 08:01.48 | ckknight | NimbleRabit: right. |
| 08:02.29 | NimbleRabit | so I've been wondering |
| 08:02.38 | NimbleRabit | how many people actually use the default pitbull health text style |
| 08:02.42 | NimbleRabit | "Smart" I think it is? |
| 08:02.45 | [Liquidor] | ckknight: make castbar customization already or I'll kill the gnome I'm holding as hostage !! |
| 08:02.55 | sbu | hmmm ckknight - does pitbull have some sort of delay on zoning now? (~1s till group frames appear) |
| 08:02.58 | ckknight | you know I hate gnomes |
| 08:03.00 | Xuerian | NimbleRabit: I use it for my smaller frames, or the centered health text on my focus frame |
| 08:03.06 | ckknight | sbu: 5 second delay |
| 08:03.13 | sbu | ah okay |
| 08:03.14 | [Liquidor] | ckknight: I got a Night Elf next to me as well !! |
| 08:03.19 | ckknight | sbu: prevents the 3-minute lockups. |
| 08:03.31 | ckknight | I don't like Nelfs either |
| 08:03.37 | [Liquidor] | Cows? |
| 08:03.40 | ckknight | nah |
| 08:03.40 | NimbleRabit | Xuerian: ahh. It seems odd as the default to me though since I can't imagine anyone uses it for the normal frames |
| 08:04.02 | [Liquidor] | Although not reall interested in having a cow in my appartment just to force you adding some features. |
| 08:04.06 | Xuerian | NimbleRabit: I use detailed for target, none for pet, and missing-if-any-missing for my mana/hp ;P |
| 08:04.25 | NimbleRabit | I use absolute|percent |
| 08:04.27 | NimbleRabit | for everything |
| 08:04.27 | NimbleRabit | lol |
| 08:04.32 | Xuerian | well no, *remaining-if-any-missing |
| 08:04.44 | [Liquidor] | that's Smart? |
| 08:10.08 | [Liquidor] | What's it called when your eye turns all ready because "something".. "exploded" ? |
| 08:10.08 | [Ammo] | morning girls |
| 08:10.37 | Mikk | wtf @ "This download is not authorized" |
| 08:10.47 | *** join/#wowace tsigo__ (n=tsigo@pool-72-83-232-240.washdc.fios.verizon.net) |
| 08:11.03 | [Liquidor] | Just some trojan stuff |
| 08:11.10 | [Liquidor] | read forums, blue all over |
| 08:11.30 | Mikk | "The attempted download is either not an authorized file or is no longer available for download. Please ensure you are using the latest downloader available for this file." |
| 08:11.48 | cryogen | ah thats what i meant to complain about |
| 08:11.50 | [Liquidor] | Mikk: Which anti-virus you got? |
| 08:11.54 | Mikk | Nothing |
| 08:12.01 | [Liquidor] | uhm disable that then |
| 08:12.03 | cryogen | who changed pitbull so it suddenly ignored my aura settings and put them on the right side |
| 08:12.14 | Mikk | That's the blizz downloader complaining |
| 08:12.25 | Mikk | [Liquidor]: Err.. I said "Nothing". Can't disable nothing. |
| 08:12.29 | [Liquidor] | Mikk: It's some glitch in the windows detectors or smth with the patch. It's all over the forums |
| 08:12.48 | [Liquidor] | O'rly? |
| 08:12.51 | mitch0 | vista only? or happens on xp too? |
| 08:13.07 | [Liquidor] | Dunno, ppl don't report OS, they report Anti-Virus software |
| 08:13.27 | cryogen | im on vista and it worked fine for me |
| 08:13.28 | mitch0 | n00bs |
| 08:13.31 | [Liquidor] | AntiVir and F-Secure has made an update to users of their products just for this <3 |
| 08:13.33 | pb_ee1 | Mikk: You're on Vista or XP? |
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| 08:14.06 | mitch0 | I really don't get why ppl "upgrade" to vista |
| 08:14.14 | [Liquidor] | Doesn't your US Forum say anything about it? |
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| 08:14.21 | [Liquidor] | we got all kind of spam over here at EU |
| 08:14.34 | Mikk | pb_ee1: win2k. _NONE_ of the microsoft malware detection shit installed |
| 08:14.46 | *** join/#wowace MoX|Padwa_work_ (n=abrakada@mail.emural.ru) |
| 08:15.24 | cryogen | well if you will insist on using 7 year old operDating systems |
| 08:15.26 | [Liquidor] | Actually scanning through your US Forums you got no sticky about it :S |
| 08:15.26 | pb_ee1 | Mikk: I was wondering if you were on Vista and you just needed to Right Click > Run with Administrator Rights... |
| 08:15.34 | [Liquidor] | rofl and I thought US got all info first |
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| 08:15.39 | pb_ee1 | Mikk: Maybe I can try to send you the client |
| 08:16.03 | AnduinLothar | sylvanaar, do you know how prat handles it's validates off the top of your head? |
| 08:16.08 | Mikk | cryogen: So, this old operating system, with zero components that can fuck the upgrader over, would be the causer? Likely. Very likely. |
| 08:16.16 | [Liquidor] | Unfortunately we just got the patch so our forums is kinda down atm, so I can't link you the posts Mikk |
| 08:16.44 | pb_ee1 | Mikk: Do you want me to upload the downloader on my server so you can try to download it? |
| 08:16.55 | [Liquidor] | patchitbaby is a really nice host for patches |
| 08:16.59 | [Liquidor] | GREAT dl speed |
| 08:17.12 | cryogen | Mikk: with all the hackery they put in these days to support the brokenness that is vista, it would not surprise me in the *slightest* |
| 08:17.22 | [Liquidor] | It's no Vista |
| 08:17.33 | cryogen | i didnt say it was |
| 08:17.34 | cryogen | read carefully |
| 08:17.35 | [Liquidor] | uhm how did I use the bot again? :S |
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| 08:17.46 | [Liquidor] | s/no/not |
| 08:17.51 | [Liquidor] | s/not/no |
| 08:17.55 | [Liquidor] | gah :/ |
| 08:18.12 | pb_ee1 | [Liquidor]: Don't forget to type the last "/" |
| 08:18.20 | [Liquidor] | s/not/no/ |
| 08:18.23 | *** join/#wowace Cartass (n=Cartas@host86-134-155-159.range86-134.btcentralplus.com) |
| 08:18.27 | [Liquidor] | s/no/not/ |
| 08:18.30 | [Liquidor] | well |
| 08:18.33 | pb_ee1 | it will only work on your LAST sentence |
| 08:18.36 | [Liquidor] | only works with latest line |
| 08:18.37 | [Liquidor] | ye |
| 08:18.38 | pb_ee1 | s/sentence/example/ |
| 08:18.43 | Mikk | pb_ee1: thanks, but i think i'll just grab it from wirebrain. thanks much tho. |
| 08:18.57 | pb_ee1 | Mikk: No worries, my pleasure ;) |
| 08:19.21 | Mikk | 200KB/s. not stellar, but far from painful. |
| 08:19.26 | [Liquidor] | http://a.wirebrain.de/wow/#p2.1.2 |
| 08:22.10 | [Liquidor] | We've been in the process of investigating this issue and we have been able to confirm that this is indeed a false-positive detection by a few anti-viruses in regards to the Blizzard Downloader. The Blizzard Downloader, which is used to download patches, does not contain a trojan, virus, or other malicious code. |
| 08:22.12 | [Liquidor] | We have been working directly with many anti-virus companies to resolve this, some of which have already deployed updated virus definitions that resolve this error. We recommend updating your definitions if you've received this false positive related to the Blizzard Downloader, and that you continue to check for updates as a resolution should be available soon if it is not already. |
| 08:22.36 | Mikk | Yeah, but that's antivirus software screaming that the downloader is a virus |
| 08:22.44 | Mikk | This is the downloader screaming that the patch is not authorized. Quite different. |
| 08:23.09 | Higdur | indeed |
| 08:23.12 | Fisker- | uk or us patch? |
| 08:23.15 | Mikk | uk |
| 08:23.18 | Higdur | I just grabbed mine from a mirror |
| 08:23.21 | Fisker- | didn't bother downloading that :P |
| 08:23.23 | copystring_ | i dont have any anti-virus and it doesnt work |
| 08:23.24 | [Liquidor] | Syr champ, can't help ya there. People been whining about the trojan all day so I've only been helping out with that one |
| 08:23.26 | Fisker- | well for myself |
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| 08:23.38 | Mikk | ya, i just grabbed mine from wirebrain also |
| 08:23.41 | Higdur | well, on my pc I did |
| 08:23.48 | Mikk | if it's shock full of keyloggers and trojans, so be it :P |
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| 08:23.58 | Higdur | on my mac the blizz downloader is running but not moving |
| 08:23.59 | cryogen | is that the one that the game gave you that's bitching? |
| 08:24.12 | Mikk | cryogen: yes |
| 08:24.31 | Mikk | it downloaded the downloader, fired up the downloader, and then the downloader went red icon + "Not authorized blahblah" |
| 08:24.33 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r40828 10PitBull/Aura/Aura.lua: PitBull_Aura - don't update auras just because the layout is updated. |
| 08:24.39 | cryogen | when did you do it? |
| 08:24.42 | Mikk | now |
| 08:24.44 | [Liquidor] | Mikk: Oh that would be SO awesome if like an entire day of players would be scammed for their accounts :> |
| 08:24.46 | cryogen | weird |
| 08:24.55 | cryogen | did mine about 30 mins ago in the same way |
| 08:25.08 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r40829 10PitBull/Aura/Aura.lua: PitBull_Aura - err, debug line |
| 08:25.11 | Mikk | well, "now" as in 15 minute ago |
| 08:25.19 | sylvanaar | AnduinLothar they are standard aceoptions - they are tables which contain key/val pairs of valid choices, used to create radio buttons |
| 08:25.22 | cryogen | :) |
| 08:25.25 | ZealotOnAStick | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:25.36 | AnduinLothar | are they not availible when the game loads? |
| 08:25.44 | ZealotOnAStick | some out of context anime lines are so odd. "I heard you liked meat pie" |
| 08:26.38 | AnduinLothar | oh i bet i knwo what the issue is |
| 08:26.43 | AnduinLothar | it's not with validate |
| 08:26.51 | sylvanaar | AnduinLothar may just be a different usage |
| 08:27.15 | AnduinLothar | it's with it not being able to find handler[set] |
| 08:27.21 | sylvanaar | AnduinLothar ah yeah |
| 08:27.39 | AnduinLothar | is it not defined till later? |
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| 08:27.53 | abbat_w | Morning ppl |
| 08:27.59 | sylvanaar | AnduinLothar not until that modules is actually loaded |
| 08:28.06 | AnduinLothar | hmm |
| 08:28.19 | AnduinLothar | ah i knew i forgot something |
| 08:28.35 | AnduinLothar | i forgot to impliment the whole addon disable/enable |
| 08:28.43 | AnduinLothar | so it jsut calls everything |
| 08:28.46 | AnduinLothar | ok. lemme get to that |
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| 08:29.18 | abbat_w | ckknight, can i ask about smallest feature for PitBull? It is possible to make an option which allow hide aura timers by frame. For example, I want to see timers for player/target/tot/focus, but don't need timers at party frames |
| 08:29.30 | abbat_w | And new menu system much better then old ;) |
| 08:29.54 | ckknight | I probably should add that, especially now with the all units thing |
| 08:30.00 | ckknight | okay, abbat_w, put it on the wish list |
| 08:30.33 | sylvanaar | AnduinLothar also prat's options change at runtime too, i dont know if thats something you already handle or not |
| 08:30.42 | [Liquidor] | Imo if you want to make sure not to get scammed by a trojan or such... set a bios password, mkay? |
| 08:30.44 | AnduinLothar | what do you mean? |
| 08:31.01 | sylvanaar | AnduinLothar they are built dynamically some of them |
| 08:31.28 | AnduinLothar | well it should rebuild the registry every time Khaos is re-openned |
| 08:31.28 | abbat_w | Btw, i know some of you ppl won't listen about discrod comunity. But now PitBull have insane customisation and it is possible to recomend old discord users to use PitBull. These guys can help make custom layout etc ;) |
| 08:31.44 | Mikk | [Liquidor]: Erm. BIOS password? Whatever's that good for? |
| 08:31.46 | AnduinLothar | and update all that addons options via get's when one is changed |
| 08:32.09 | ckknight | abbat_w: meh, they can come to me if they want |
| 08:32.23 | ckknight | also, PitBull still has work to be done |
| 08:32.30 | [Liquidor] | well I'm still waiting for ckknight to make an Ace'd Discord Art |
| 08:32.35 | Mikk | [Liquidor]: Those passwords only "help" against people doing Bad Stuff at the local keyboard on startup. |
| 08:32.43 | ckknight | [Liquidor]: problem is I'm not artistic |
| 08:32.44 | Mikk | (And only if they don't go into the box and reset them) |
| 08:32.45 | [Liquidor] | Mikk: no kidding? |
| 08:32.47 | SunTiger | [Liquidor], please no |
| 08:32.50 | AnduinLothar | what's the ace table function to enable/disable an addon? |
| 08:32.52 | abbat_w | [Liquidor], this is don't need |
| 08:32.54 | SunTiger | discord art is a bad idea to begin with |
| 08:33.03 | SunTiger | no matter if ckknight makes it |
| 08:33.05 | sbu | ohh btw nevcairiel |
| 08:33.12 | abbat_w | Some mods like eePanels, vizor2 can do all discord art functionality |
| 08:33.25 | [Liquidor] | Whatb's bad about customizing textures around your ui? |
| 08:33.27 | abbat_w | Maybe not all but almost all |
| 08:33.34 | sbu | please think about repositioning that 'reset' option in BT3 menus |
| 08:33.40 | abbat_w | [Liquidor], try eePanels |
| 08:33.46 | ckknight | AnduinLothar: standby, typically |
| 08:33.52 | [Liquidor] | abbat_w: those are squares |
| 08:33.59 | AnduinLothar | that called just to disable? |
| 08:34.02 | ckknight | AnduinLothar: on addons themselves, it's :ToggleActive() |
| 08:34.03 | abbat_w | Ah, now i understand |
| 08:34.03 | AnduinLothar | what's called to enable? |
| 08:34.04 | [Liquidor] | You go ahead and create a new bottomframe with eepanels |
| 08:34.09 | ckknight | AnduinLothar: standby does both |
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| 08:34.17 | sylvanaar | modules are per addon |
| 08:34.19 | AnduinLothar | toggle or does it have an arg? |
| 08:34.21 | sbu | nevcairiel: because if you click enable to see whats on that bar, stay with your mouse at that position and click again to disable it -> interface reload... |
| 08:34.31 | ckknight | AnduinLothar: toggles always have args given to them |
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| 08:34.32 | sylvanaar | otherwise it uses the blizzard setting |
| 08:34.34 | cryogen | i'll try my daily question again.. is ther an addon that will let me drag the blizzard frames around? (quest log, profession, etc) |
| 08:34.36 | ckknight | which is not get() |
| 08:34.39 | abbat_w | [Liquidor], at this moment mod which allow you to customize UI like DART doesn't exist |
| 08:34.47 | AnduinLothar | k |
| 08:34.48 | abbat_w | And i don't think what someone write it |
| 08:34.59 | [Liquidor] | abbat_w: That's what I'm tlaking about, everyone's slacking |
| 08:35.10 | abbat_w | Not slacking ;) |
| 08:35.34 | [Liquidor] | AceArt > Threat |
| 08:35.41 | abbat_w | But authors don't need this. If they want to make something and don't find any mod for this we got new aced dart ;) |
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| 08:37.01 | [Liquidor] | AceArt (or any other name that is) would become so popular you wouldn't imagine it. With all those 1000s of players trying to modify their textures. |
| 08:37.31 | Fisker- | Then i would have to compete against other idiots :( |
| 08:37.31 | [Liquidor] | 10.000s... no 100.000s of players. All those who wanted Photek whenever it came online <3 |
| 08:37.38 | Fisker- | in being the greatest of them all! |
| 08:37.39 | abbat_w | Yes, it would be popular |
| 08:38.06 | Mikk | Try millions |
| 08:38.07 | Mikk | >.< |
| 08:38.20 | ckknight | I'll make it if each of them promises me $1 |
| 08:38.26 | [Liquidor] | Heh |
| 08:38.34 | [Liquidor] | I'll make it... if someone teaches me |
| 08:38.47 | Mikk | Nah, perhaps I'm exagerating. But it's certainly in the hundreds of thousands. |
| 08:39.02 | ckknight | Mikk: $100,000 would be nice |
| 08:39.03 | ZealotOnAStick | purl, teach [Liquidor] |
| 08:39.13 | Mikk | ckknight: certainly :> |
| 08:39.16 | [Liquidor] | ckknight: Haha easy now fella |
| 08:39.32 | [Liquidor] | ZealotOnAStick: Where's purl? |
| 08:39.40 | Mikk | Fisker at it |
| 08:39.54 | Mikk | s/at/ate/ |
| 08:40.03 | Mikk | oh, there it is |
| 08:40.51 | abbat_w | ~purl |
| 08:40.52 | Mikk | purl, teach is <action>screams RTFM, NOOB at $1 |
| 08:40.52 | purl | ACTION sits is down and forces is to learn to <action>screams RTFM, NOOB at $1, even if it takes 15 years |
| 08:41.01 | Mikk | err |
| 08:41.06 | ckknight | I has an idea! |
| 08:41.08 | Mikk | purl, teach Mikk |
| 08:41.28 | Mikk | purl, teach Mikk patience |
| 08:41.29 | purl | ACTION sits Mikk down and forces Mikk to learn to patience, even if it takes 15 years |
| 08:41.29 | ZealotOnAStick | ~literal teach |
| 08:41.29 | purl | "teach" is "<reply> give a man a fish and he eats for a night. teach a man to fish and he eats for a lifetime." |
| 08:41.39 | ckknight | ~literal CMD: teach (.*?) |
| 08:41.50 | [Ammo] | Mikk: why is your newkeyed function in vio, but never used :p |
| 08:41.58 | [Ammo] | I assume I can freely delete it :) |
| 08:42.02 | ckknight | ~literal CMD: teach (.*?) (.*?) |
| 08:42.03 | purl | "cmd: teach (.*?) (.*?)" is "($1,$2): <action>sits $1 down and forces $1 to learn to $2, even if it takes 15 years" |
| 08:42.05 | Mikk | [Ammo]: It will be used now |
| 08:42.45 | Mikk | [Ammo]: There was a bug in newkeyed() last night so I skipped on using it for a little... i saw today that it was because i forgot to remove items from the cache :P |
| 08:42.51 | [Ammo] | oh |
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| 08:43.07 | Mikk | I also had a clash with vhaarr |
| 08:43.11 | Mikk | Or, should I say, you did :P |
| 08:43.23 | [Ammo] | I did? |
| 08:43.27 | Mikk | http://mikk.cjb.net/vio.jpg <- your idea |
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| 08:43.37 | Mikk | He wanted what I did first >.< |
| 08:43.41 | Mikk | (And now I don't want that either) |
| 08:43.59 | [Ammo] | this is way easier to use on the rightclick menu's |
| 08:44.07 | Mikk | i know |
| 08:44.09 | [Ammo] | I don't really care what's done in the normal menu |
| 08:44.12 | abbat_w | Uhhh... |
| 08:44.26 | [Ammo] | since I will never use that abomination 8 levels deep |
| 08:44.43 | sbu | hmmm so since the alt-tab issue is fixed now i can switch back to non-windows mode? :o |
| 08:44.45 | abbat_w | Guys, how i can add something to wish list? Just press 'edit' and add my wish at beginning of page? |
| 08:44.54 | Mikk | abbat_w: or end of page, yeah |
| 08:45.06 | abbat_w | Thanks. This is first time for me ;) |
| 08:45.11 | Athou | mmh any WAU dev around ? :) |
| 08:45.37 | Health | sbu: alt+tab freeze/crash bug solved? |
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| 08:45.51 | Mikk | [Ammo]: Ok, I'll just stick that in the bar window context menu and you back me up when vhaarr is coming for my balls, mkay? =) |
| 08:45.56 | Athou | latest version is giving me: Parsing 0 Entries In The Index File...Complete |
| 08:45.57 | sbu | Health: well at least its in the notes - i have no idea :) |
| 08:46.23 | [Ammo] | Mikk: all I want in window context is: report -> raid, report -> say etc |
| 08:46.35 | Mikk | [Ammo]: Precisely |
| 08:46.56 | Mikk | And channels, which I haven't gotten around to, since I spent all of last day fighting with AceOptions |
| 08:46.59 | [Ammo] | hehe |
| 08:47.15 | [Liquidor] | Is there an order in which addon gets to do something first before another? |
| 08:47.25 | Mikk | Define something |
| 08:47.34 | [Ammo] | define addon, another |
| 08:47.41 | Mikk | that too |
| 08:47.41 | [Liquidor] | Example: 2 diff. addons adding values to the same global table, which one gets to do it first? |
| 08:47.56 | Mikk | Depends. In response to what are they trying to do this? |
| 08:47.56 | [Liquidor] | inserting* |
| 08:47.57 | [Ammo] | depends on how they're doing it |
| 08:48.16 | Mikk | If it's in response to a registered event, there's no guarantee |
| 08:48.19 | [Ammo] | if it's doing it triggering of an event, it's random |
| 08:48.26 | [Liquidor] | ok |
| 08:48.38 | [Liquidor] | but they are queued aight? |
| 08:48.44 | [Liquidor] | or I mean |
| 08:48.46 | [Liquidor] | uhm |
| 08:48.50 | Mikk | Yeah, there's no multithreading |
| 08:48.50 | [Ammo] | it's one after the other yes |
| 08:48.56 | [Ammo] | but order is not guaranteed in any way |
| 08:49.00 | [Liquidor] | ok |
| 08:49.13 | [Ammo]] | Confusing, this |
| 08:49.43 | Health | Strange! |
| 08:50.57 | [Ammo] | haha |
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| 08:51.30 | Fisker- | http://img.4chan.org/b/src/1182326392073.jpg lol |
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| 08:53.22 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r40830 10PitBull/PitBull.lua: PitBull - add method :IterateWackyUnitFrames() |
| 08:53.57 | abbat_w | heh ;) |
| 08:54.06 | abbat_w | so, i add my first wish ;) |
| 08:55.26 | CIA-22 | 03punkie * r40831 10pDebuffList/ (embeds.xml pDebuffList.toc): pDebuffList: embeds.xml |
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| 08:59.53 | Fisker- | so |
| 08:59.58 | Fisker- | anyone know some good portal shit? |
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| 09:00.51 | Iceroth | MS Portal Starter Kit? |
| 09:00.58 | Fisker- | yeah |
| 09:01.02 | Fisker- | something like that! :P |
| 09:01.09 | abbat_w | =) |
| 09:01.20 | abbat_w | ms have sharepoint |
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| 09:01.33 | Fisker- | yeah i know |
| 09:02.11 | [Ammo] | I've written some nice portal stuff :p |
| 09:02.15 | [Ammo] | http://www.overijssel.nl/ |
| 09:02.21 | sag_ich_nicht | so |
| 09:02.22 | [Ammo] | try dragging the stuff around :) |
| 09:03.25 | Iceroth | i'm trying to load it, how's that |
| 09:03.49 | Fisker- | slow site |
| 09:04.03 | Iceroth | pageflakes.com is quite neat |
| 09:07.35 | sbu | speaking of slow... wtb login server :/ |
| 09:07.45 | Mikk | Hah. I'm authenticated. |
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| 09:07.53 | Mikk | Spending an extraordinary time shaking hands though |
| 09:08.40 | abbat_w | huh |
| 09:08.45 | abbat_w | nice stuff, Ammo ;) |
| 09:08.45 | Fisker- | i hope blizzard washed hands then |
| 09:08.58 | Mikk | yay, one of the servers with my dev toons are up |
| 09:08.59 | abbat_w | you portal save state betwenn user sessions? |
| 09:10.01 | CIA-22 | 03roartindon * r40832 10Assessment/ (3 files in 3 dirs): |
| 09:10.01 | CIA-22 | Assessment |
| 09:10.01 | CIA-22 | - Start of report options. Access them using (control/shift/alt) + Right button, or left clicking on a non-bar on the window. |
| 09:10.13 | CIA-22 | 03mitchell * r40833 10RangeCheck/ (README README.txt): RangeCheck: renamed README |
| 09:12.26 | [Ammo] | abbat_w: yeah you get a cookie set |
| 09:12.37 | [Ammo] | we're working on a way to signup so you can login and get your page |
| 09:12.50 | [Ammo] | this is the news portal for the province of Overijssel in the netherlands |
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| 09:14.17 | abbat_w | heh, nice |
| 09:14.39 | [Ammo] | we're also using the system for intranet's for different cities in .nl |
| 09:15.09 | abbat_w | We have sharepoint at our company |
| 09:15.12 | [Ammo] | and the javascript libs are usable for otehr stuff as well :) http://wouter.muze.nl/solitaire/ |
| 09:15.13 | abbat_w | Same stuff. Like it |
| 09:17.03 | [Ammo] | probably doesn't work in opera due to opera being a shit browser to develop for |
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| 09:17.12 | Athou | ckknight: thanks for the blankspace fix, works like a charm :) |
| 09:17.18 | abbat_w | i use msie/firefox |
| 09:17.21 | Sole | hi guys |
| 09:17.29 | abbat_w | good day Sole |
| 09:17.29 | ckknight | hey Sole |
| 09:17.33 | ckknight | alright, Athou |
| 09:17.34 | Sole | Im having a hell of a time trying to find a free VRO -> MPEG converter =\ |
| 09:17.55 | Sole | AVS Video ReMaker does just what I want |
| 09:18.09 | Sole | but I dont want to pay $30 for a program I'll use once |
| 09:18.11 | Worf | what is FRO? |
| 09:18.17 | Worf | VRO |
| 09:18.29 | Sole | video camera recording format |
| 09:18.48 | Sole | I just 2 simple things |
| 09:19.15 | Worf | normal standard digital video camera stuff? ah - well - there should be lot's of tools... mencoder... |
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| 09:19.32 | Sole | the program to read the IFO file for the scene info, then export every scene as a seperate MPEG |
| 09:19.33 | abbat_w | Sole, maybe you know some another programs for this? |
| 09:19.37 | abbat_w | Even commercial |
| 09:19.43 | Sole | abbat_w: been trying to find some |
| 09:19.44 | abbat_w | I can search ;) |
| 09:19.56 | Sole | Id appreciate it :) |
| 09:20.04 | abbat_w | site dupe video remaker return 0 results |
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| 09:21.23 | Saint-N | eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee |
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| 09:22.13 | Worf | hmm - just had a look at some app for getting videos from a digital cam and doing cutting and stuff, and i can't seem VRO mentioned... just Raw DV, DV AVI, etc... |
| 09:22.29 | Saint-N | what app? |
| 09:22.32 | Worf | Kino |
| 09:22.37 | Worf | http://www.kinodv.org/ |
| 09:22.53 | Worf | ( free ) |
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| 09:23.19 | Saint-N | doesnt most dv's come with software (free) ? |
| 09:23.27 | Saint-N | err don't most |
| 09:23.29 | Worf | well, not that of my dad :) |
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| 09:23.49 | Saint-N | once more in english? |
| 09:24.00 | Saint-N | ;) |
| 09:24.22 | Sole | Ive got the program |
| 09:24.25 | Sole | DVDMovieAlbum |
| 09:24.27 | Sole | but its crap |
| 09:24.30 | Sole | doesnt do anything that I want |
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| 09:24.40 | Worf | hey, i just got up and i got bad notes in english class... what do you expect? :) |
| 09:24.43 | Saint-N | just looking to rip from device and decode to disc? |
| 09:24.55 | Saint-N | with a bit of cutting here and there? |
| 09:25.02 | Saint-N | and snazzy effects? |
| 09:25.14 | Gagorian | And I'm off for a few days |
| 09:25.53 | Worf | well, have a look at http://www.kinodv.org/ and http://lives.sourceforge.net/ maybe |
| 09:26.21 | Sole | Ive already ripped it off the device |
| 09:26.28 | Sole | I just want to convert from VRO -> MPEG |
| 09:26.29 | Saint-N | i havent touched video in such a long time |
| 09:26.31 | CIA-22 | 03mitchell * r40834 10RangeCheck/README.txt: RangeCheck: extended README |
| 09:26.34 | Sole | and rip it up into seperate scenes |
| 09:26.38 | CIA-22 | 03roartindon * r40835 10Assessment/Modules/BarInterface.lua: Assessment: BarInterface - added Lock, Remove and channel reporting options to the menu. |
| 09:26.41 | Sole | I have an IFO file with all the scene times |
| 09:26.42 | Saint-N | umm |
| 09:26.49 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r40836 10PitBull/ (Aura/Aura.lua PitBull.lua): |
| 09:26.49 | CIA-22 | PitBull_Aura - use Parser to detect general aura changes on wacky units. |
| 09:26.49 | CIA-22 | - instead of updating wacky units throughout every 0.5 seconds, make it every 5, with intermediate updates from the parser detection and UNIT_TARGET. |
| 09:26.51 | Saint-N | can you play it in vlc? |
| 09:26.55 | ckknight | ^--- should speed things up |
| 09:26.56 | Sole | ya |
| 09:27.10 | Saint-N | cuz its got a stream to file option i believe |
| 09:27.16 | Saint-N | which should output to mpeg |
| 09:27.47 | Saint-N | i had to ditch pitbull again |
| 09:27.49 | Saint-N | ;( |
| 09:28.43 | Saint-N | way too many frames created that i kept finding in the middle of combat ;) |
| 09:29.29 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r40837 10PitBull/PitBull.lua: PitBull - don't track servers in __name, too expensive for what it's worth. |
| 09:29.33 | ckknight | lol, Saint-N |
| 09:29.38 | ckknight | never heard of config mode? |
| 09:29.57 | QuantumDelta | pitbull's config modes are like |
| 09:30.02 | QuantumDelta | one of the best bits :P |
| 09:30.07 | Saint-N | heh yeah i kept forgetting to do it |
| 09:30.25 | Saint-N | and then POOOF! party targets and ToT and pets targets and |
| 09:30.32 | Saint-N | me clawing at my eyes |
| 09:30.35 | Saint-N | heh |
| 09:30.37 | ckknight | yea, it's useful |
| 09:30.40 | ckknight | use configMode |
| 09:30.43 | ckknight | don't be a nub. |
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| 09:30.47 | QuantumDelta | haha |
| 09:30.55 | Saint-N | the other sad thing is the binding of benecast to the frames |
| 09:31.06 | Saint-N | although...... |
| 09:31.21 | Saint-N | in the latest post therse a comment about added config points or something |
| 09:31.46 | Saint-N | wanna go check ui.wowinterface and read the notes in the latest wintrow releases ckk? |
| 09:31.52 | ckknight | wintrow? |
| 09:31.59 | Saint-N | and just lemme know if pitbull will play nice with what he suggests? |
| 09:32.01 | Saint-N | yeah |
| 09:32.06 | Saint-N | of benecast sorry |
| 09:32.11 | Saint-N | wintrow is the updater |
| 09:32.17 | ckknight | doesn't really matter to me |
| 09:32.19 | Saint-N | nonon |
| 09:32.22 | Saint-N | ill do it |
| 09:32.26 | Saint-N | to make em happy |
| 09:32.31 | ckknight | I use click casting |
| 09:32.34 | Saint-N | but im not sure i udnerstand what hes saying |
| 09:32.37 | sbu | gnaha, unable to connect... |
| 09:32.39 | ckknight | I don't see what I get out of helping BeneCast |
| 09:32.45 | Saint-N | you dont have to |
| 09:32.48 | Kinkx | sbu - same :( |
| 09:33.07 | Saint-N | you just have to tell me if i can embed the "tags" from pitbull in bene without hassle |
| 09:33.11 | Saint-N | the way he suggests |
| 09:33.24 | CIA-22 | 03roartindon * r40838 10Assessment/Modules/BarInterface.lua: Assessment: Added a report limit slider to the menu |
| 09:33.44 | Saint-N | benecast is actually much groovier than clickcasting |
| 09:33.46 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r40839 10PitBull/Aura/Aura.lua: PitBull_Aura - use .__name instead of UnitName, for speed |
| 09:33.49 | Saint-N | but thts mainly personal choice |
| 09:34.16 | Saint-N | plus i kept hitting the capslock when i was clickcasting ;) |
| 09:34.28 | QuantumDelta | ! |
| 09:34.31 | Saint-N | heh |
| 09:34.57 | QuantumDelta | as a side note pitbull kept mini-freezing on me whilst in av with ppl joining/leaving :\ |
| 09:35.01 | Saint-N | big fight then WOOO YEAH! HEY GUYS CAN I GET SOME MORE WATER? |
| 09:35.04 | Saint-N | err |
| 09:35.05 | Saint-N | ;) |
| 09:35.16 | QuantumDelta | *at least I was pretty sure it was pitbull since that's the only new addon I've introduced |
| 09:35.17 | Saint-N | thats a feature |
| 09:35.22 | ckknight | QuantumDelta: update, please test again |
| 09:35.31 | ckknight | I believe I solved that icky issue |
| 09:35.33 | QuantumDelta | alrighty soon as server up :) |
| 09:35.45 | ckknight | make sure you get up to r40839 |
| 09:35.48 | [Liquidor] | Extended Maintaince: 9 hours |
| 09:35.50 | [Liquidor] | (EU) |
| 09:35.52 | QuantumDelta | .. |
| 09:36.00 | [Liquidor] | cya tonight then |
| 09:36.04 | QuantumDelta | fine I'll do it on my american account :P |
| 09:36.45 | Kinkx | [Liquidor] - whaaat? :[ |
| 09:37.00 | [Liquidor] | Just messing with QuantumDelta |
| 09:37.19 | QuantumDelta | [Liquidor] is in my battlegroup |
| 09:37.25 | Kinkx | :) |
| 09:37.49 | [Liquidor] | I am? |
| 09:38.17 | QuantumDelta | weren't you the mage? |
| 09:38.38 | abbat_w | Anyone look, new gladiator gear in game? :) |
| 09:39.09 | [Liquidor] | I am |
| 09:39.16 | abbat_w | and? |
| 09:39.23 | Sole | aww man |
| 09:39.26 | Sole | Kino is Linux only |
| 09:40.23 | CIA-22 | wowbench: 03mikeclueby4 * r133 10/trunk/BlizzardInterface/FrameXML/ (154 files): Import 2.1.2 FrameXML |
| 09:40.26 | Mikk | One would think that Blizz' techs would have learned from the US patch problems and got it right in the EU but nooo |
| 09:40.57 | Kinkx | EU keeps messing up even when there isn't a patch :( |
| 09:41.06 | Mikk | true dat |
| 09:41.21 | Mikk | thank god i've got dev toons in all hosting centers |
| 09:42.05 | Mikk | now i just need a US account also >.< |
| 09:42.17 | CIA-22 | 03ammo * r40840 10Violation/Violation.lua: Violation: strip out current LoD system to replace it with a different one soonish |
| 09:42.59 | Iceroth | anyone tried this MS keyboard/mouse thing: http://www.microsoft.com/hardware/mouseandkeyboard/productdetails.aspx?pid=081 ? |
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| 09:46.00 | Kinkx | Wireless bad |
| 09:46.04 | Kinkx | Looks good though |
| 09:46.30 | Iceroth | me wants wireless, ftw when keeping the keyboard in lap |
| 09:46.43 | Iceroth | but the angle thing looks good |
| 09:47.51 | Iceroth | i don't want those "ergo" things that have separate pads for left and right hand but tilted like that, could work |
| 09:47.53 | mitch0 | anyone experienced with wowi uploads? |
| 09:48.08 | mitch0 | how long does it usually take for a new submission to go live? |
| 09:49.05 | sbu | wtf 9h |
| 09:49.25 | sbu | so no karazhan today... |
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| 09:49.44 | sbu | [Liquidor]: source? |
| 09:49.55 | sbu | ahhh |
| 09:49.58 | sbu | *stab* |
| 09:50.08 | Iceroth | .p |
| 09:50.26 | [Liquidor] | huh? |
| 09:50.34 | [Liquidor] | WAtch out or I'll sauce you |
| 09:50.56 | CIA-22 | 03ammo * r40841 10Violation/Violation.lua: Violation: beginning of some plumbing for pet data broadcast |
| 09:52.09 | Saint-N | wireless mouse == fine |
| 09:52.15 | Saint-N | wireless keyboard == bad |
| 09:52.42 | Saint-N | most of them have a jitter when you hold keys like running n stuff |
| 09:52.57 | mitch0 | ammo: yay! |
| 09:53.08 | mitch0 | ammo: don't stop with named pets, ok? :) |
| 09:53.15 | sbu | and i dont get the point in wireless keyboards - mouse is fine, you move it around - but keybard? |
| 09:53.19 | [Ammo] | anonymous pets are registered with the user |
| 09:53.20 | sbu | its just there... :o |
| 09:53.23 | Saint-N | get a saitech gamer keyboard |
| 09:53.25 | [Ammo] | and thus broadcasted with their owner data |
| 09:53.31 | Saint-N | they rule |
| 09:53.38 | mitch0 | ammo: but, you know, we had this discussion yesterday :) |
| 09:53.44 | sbu | Saint-N: g15 here.. |
| 09:53.46 | [Ammo] | you can have every discussion you want |
| 09:53.58 | [Ammo] | it's your right in this fairly free world :) |
| 09:54.08 | mitch0 | ammo: they _could_ be registered separately, you just said it's messy with the current code, and it'll be doable once you finish pet broadcast :) |
| 09:54.09 | Saint-N | i love the side number pad thingy |
| 09:54.20 | Saint-N | the best part is timed hotkeys ;PO |
| 09:54.29 | Saint-N | so i can break eula with my keyboard |
| 09:54.40 | Saint-N | time the dots and load em up on one keypress ;) |
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| 09:55.19 | QuantumDelta | oh well guess I'll watch more S:AAB |
| 09:55.33 | mitch0 | ammo: is there a per-attack-type kind of thing in teh works? |
| 09:55.41 | [Ammo] | mitch0: could, but I'll just broadcast em with the player |
| 09:55.48 | [Ammo] | a what? |
| 09:56.01 | mitch0 | like, damage done with frostbolt: 10000, fireball: 10, etc |
| 09:56.14 | Mikk | that's Assessment |
| 09:56.24 | [Ammo] | go use assessment or recount |
| 09:56.25 | mitch0 | ah |
| 09:56.29 | [Ammo] | that will _never_ be in violation |
| 09:56.32 | mitch0 | ok |
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| 09:56.42 | Mikk | :O |
| 09:56.42 | mitch0 | and assassment works with my own data only , right? |
| 09:56.48 | mitch0 | or is that a superset of vio? |
| 09:56.51 | [Ammo] | boggle? |
| 09:57.08 | [Ammo] | ask roartindon |
| 09:57.10 | mitch0 | or maybe I should go and read up on it? |
| 09:57.12 | mitch0 | :P |
| 09:57.13 | [Ammo] | he made assessment |
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| 10:00.16 | Mikk | Tbfh, I personally wouldn't mind it if it was possible to load up Violation_DetailTracker and get that stuff in vio aswell |
| 10:00.23 | Mikk | Cause I'm loving the GUI in general |
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| 10:01.21 | sbu | Mikk: mh - but it wont work with other than combatlog data? |
| 10:01.49 | Mikk | True, it wouldn't be freely synced |
| 10:02.03 | Mikk | Syncing that = whoa amounts of network traffic |
| 10:02.49 | CIA-22 | 03ammo * r40842 10Violation/Violation.lua: Violation: plug a leak |
| 10:03.20 | Mikk | I'd be just as happy if it wasn't though, myself. You'd be able to tell if your combatlog parsed data lacks events compared to synced data and weigh that in when you're looking at details |
| 10:03.47 | Mikk | [Ammo]: Woudl that be my leak? If so, that's what I meant to use newkeyed() for. I've got a patch here but can't test it myself. |
| 10:04.18 | [Ammo] | naah |
| 10:04.20 | Mikk | wtb working servers and all that |
| 10:04.23 | [Ammo] | different leak |
| 10:04.32 | [Ammo] | I'm reworking a fuck ton of code atm |
| 10:04.40 | Mikk | ok.. there's a small "leak" when people leave groups in my code.. very minute though |
| 10:04.41 | [Ammo] | putting in the basics of arbitrary broadcasting |
| 10:04.43 | sbu | someone please fix that epgp leak *sigh* |
| 10:04.45 | [Ammo] | oh? |
| 10:04.55 | [Ammo] | plug that leak Mikk! |
| 10:04.56 | sbu | its like 10mb in 2h |
| 10:05.19 | Mikk | [Ammo]: Yeah yeah, I'm sure it's all of 50k over a gaming session :P But yeah it's in my patch here when I can test it |
| 10:06.33 | [Ammo] | I'm working on code to be able to broadcast data for anyone basically |
| 10:06.37 | [Ammo] | just the basics |
| 10:06.43 | [Ammo] | and then I'll put in pet broadcast first |
| 10:07.53 | nevcairiel | Adirelle|Work: pong |
| 10:08.01 | nevcairiel | sbu: i dont understand what you mean :P |
| 10:08.21 | sbu | no? hm :o |
| 10:08.56 | nevcairiel | its possible you hit the reset bar option |
| 10:08.59 | nevcairiel | which reloads your ui |
| 10:09.05 | sbu | yes it is |
| 10:09.22 | nevcairiel | but just pay attention what you click :P |
| 10:09.27 | sbu | because 'reset' is at the same position as 'enable' :o |
| 10:09.43 | [Ammo] | Mikk: could you explain why to use newkeyed, because I don't see the use yet |
| 10:11.26 | Lywellyn | Do I *need* the Ace2 addon installed? |
| 10:11.42 | pb_ee1 | Lywellyn: depends if you are using externals or not |
| 10:12.13 | Lywellyn | pb_ee1: Every time I update with WAU, I update with externals. Some mods I get off of WoWI though. |
| 10:12.50 | pb_ee1 | Then you don't need to install Ace2. It is contained in the externals of your addons ;) |
| 10:13.16 | Mikk | [Ammo]: x=newkeyed("foo","bar","baz",123) == x = {foo="bar",baz=123} |
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| 10:13.57 | Lywellyn | Hmm...I wonder why my FPS is all of a sudden really crappy....instead of my normal 30-40, I'm getting 15-20 |
| 10:14.11 | [Ammo] | Mikk: I know what it does, but WHY |
| 10:14.19 | Iceroth | did you install ktm by mistake?) |
| 10:14.19 | [Ammo] | x = new() |
| 10:14.22 | [Ammo] | x["foo"] = "bar" |
| 10:14.25 | pb_ee1 | Iceroth: lol |
| 10:14.39 | pb_ee1 | Lywellyn: try disabling your addons to see if they are the problem |
| 10:14.53 | Lywellyn | Iceroth: I actually uninstalled KTM after that debacle. XD |
| 10:14.53 | Mikk | [Ammo]: Mostly because it's usable when constructing tables |
| 10:14.58 | sag_ich_nicht | no. |
| 10:15.02 | sag_ich_nicht | Lywellyn |
| 10:15.03 | pb_ee1 | Lywellyn: if so, you should enable each one after the other and see which one make your FPS gto down |
| 10:15.05 | sag_ich_nicht | try /console gxrestart |
| 10:15.10 | sag_ich_nicht | before you do any of these. |
| 10:15.21 | Lywellyn | ooh. fun console commands. :D |
| 10:15.29 | [Ammo] | Mikk: you're constructing htem from a pairs loop anyway |
| 10:15.32 | sag_ich_nicht | might as well just be the damn graphic engine locking up |
| 10:15.35 | Iceroth | gxrestart? |
| 10:15.37 | sbu | whats gxrestart? :p |
| 10:15.37 | [Ammo] | so why not just do x = new() and then set each key |
| 10:15.41 | sag_ich_nicht | happens to me all the time when i alt+tab |
| 10:15.49 | sag_ich_nicht | gxrestart restarts the rendering engine |
| 10:15.53 | Mikk | [Ammo]: Where it (imo) provides clarity since you can define it where it's used, and not 10--200 lines earlier in a separately named table object |
| 10:16.00 | sbu | but it should be fixed in 2.1.2? ;o |
| 10:16.01 | sag_ich_nicht | takes 10-20 seconds depending on system |
| 10:16.08 | sag_ich_nicht | sbu: the fps drop not |
| 10:16.26 | sag_ich_nicht | the fps drop is caused because windows is retarded |
| 10:16.32 | sag_ich_nicht | or to be more specific, directx is |
| 10:16.33 | Lywellyn | sag_ich_nicht: I don't alttab, but I do run in windowed mode and switch to things (like here) while I play. Normally it doesn't cause a problem, but hey, who knows. :p |
| 10:16.35 | [Ammo] | Mikk: well it's no big deal or something, just wondering |
| 10:16.49 | Mikk | [Ammo]: But you're right, it's absolutely doable with manual codework earlier on. It just provides clarity when that "earlier" on is too far away, imo. |
| 10:16.53 | sag_ich_nicht | Lywellyn: just try it, if it doesn't help you can still debug your addons :P |
| 10:17.00 | Lywellyn | sag_ich_nicht: Absolutely. :) |
| 10:17.22 | sag_ich_nicht | i have learned to type in /console gxrestart blind |
| 10:17.27 | Lywellyn | Took out Ace2 to see if that helps, because it turns out to be a memory hog. >< |
| 10:17.32 | sag_ich_nicht | because sometimes my video card driver would completely wack out |
| 10:17.34 | Mikk | Granted, I could do something funky like very = { deep = { thing = function() x=new() x["foo"]="bar"; return x end } ... } ... } ... } |
| 10:17.37 | Mikk | But that's just ugly imo :P |
| 10:17.38 | Lywellyn | oh yeah. Is it possible to make an addon LOD? |
| 10:17.40 | Kinkx | 19 servers up :o |
| 10:17.52 | sag_ich_nicht | [12:17] <Lywellyn> Took out Ace2 to see if that helps, because it turns out to be a memory hog. >< <--no, it's not. |
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| 10:18.19 | Lywellyn | well, I should say, it ends up using a good percentage of the total memory that's being used. |
| 10:18.24 | sag_ich_nicht | uh |
| 10:18.29 | sag_ich_nicht | i wasn't done yet. |
| 10:18.37 | Lywellyn | :3 |
| 10:18.44 | Nargiddley | Lywellyn, the total memory usage wont change by disabling it |
| 10:18.45 | sag_ich_nicht | it just happens that all the ace2 addons you have now show up in the ace2 usage because :P |
| 10:18.49 | sag_ich_nicht | yes |
| 10:18.53 | sag_ich_nicht | it would more likely increase |
| 10:19.07 | Fisker- | I made a wow review of 2.1.2! http://www.developersdevelopersdevelopers.dk/WoWReview/ |
| 10:19.08 | Lywellyn | Crap. |
| 10:19.11 | sag_ich_nicht | +you have it enabled |
| 10:19.26 | Nargiddley | Lywellyn, only difference is where the memory is credited. Whichever addon has the embedded Ace2 that loads will get that memory |
| 10:19.33 | pb_ee1 | Fisker-: lol |
| 10:19.54 | Lywellyn | Nargiddley: Yeah, I totally see that now. |
| 10:20.01 | sag_ich_nicht | gah |
| 10:20.05 | Lywellyn | Console gxrestart didn't work either. :( |
| 10:20.12 | sag_ich_nicht | well then you will have to debug :P |
| 10:20.21 | Lywellyn | *sigh* wee. |
| 10:20.38 | CIA-22 | 03roartindon * r40843 10Assessment/Modules/ (BarInterface.lua GroupMembers.lua UnitData.lua): |
| 10:20.38 | CIA-22 | Assessment |
| 10:20.38 | CIA-22 | - UnitData - Group Mana/Health are now given a Class colortype |
| 10:20.38 | CIA-22 | - GroupMembers - fixed the list type for CurrentGroupMembers |
| 10:20.38 | CIA-22 | - BarInterface - Added DisplaySet menu to windows. Made report to channels submenu disabled if there are no appropriate channels |
| 10:20.39 | sag_ich_nicht | disable half of your addons, see if it solves the problem, if not, disable the half the ones still left, etc. etc. |
| 10:20.54 | sag_ich_nicht | if it solves the problem, enabled half of the ones you just disabled |
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| 10:21.09 | sag_ich_nicht | and so on forth and back until you find the cause |
| 10:21.14 | pb_ee1 | CIA-22: Stop the spam, please. |
| 10:21.16 | cryogen | binary searches, very efficient! |
| 10:21.19 | pb_ee1 | (:p) |
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| 10:22.03 | pb_ee1 | A b... what? Isn't it a REAL person? NOOOOO T_T |
| 10:22.12 | Kinkx | http://handrooster.com/comic/imabot.jpg |
| 10:22.56 | CIA-22 | 03helium * r40844 10CastYeller/ (6 files in 2 dirs): CastYeller: updated zhTW localization |
| 10:23.05 | Fisker- | fucking QFT Kinkx |
| 10:23.15 | Fisker- | fuck i hate those captcha's |
| 10:24.02 | Kinkx | hehe ;) |
| 10:24.05 | pb_ee1 | http://www.unoriginal.co.uk/english-fuck.html |
| 10:24.09 | Lywellyn | Please tell me what QFT means...I still don't know >< |
| 10:24.17 | Mikk | Quoted For Truth |
| 10:24.26 | sbu | Fisker-: you know - "Authenticating" is some sort of WoW captcha! |
| 10:24.56 | Lywellyn | Ah. And interesting. I disable Auctioneer/Informant and AtlasLoot Enhanced....my mem usage drops significantly and my framerate increases back to 30-35 |
| 10:25.36 | sag_ich_nicht | probably auctioneer |
| 10:25.41 | Lywellyn | Re-enable Auc/Inf and I'm sitting pretty at 30-40 FPS and 30MB usage. ;) |
| 10:25.57 | sag_ich_nicht | mhm |
| 10:26.05 | sag_ich_nicht | atlasloot eating frames? oÔ |
| 10:26.17 | Lywellyn | *shrug* that's why I was wondering if I could make it LOD |
| 10:26.30 | sag_ich_nicht | no i mean it shouldn't be eating fps. |
| 10:26.42 | sag_ich_nicht | ram okay i mean the tables are a bit big yeah |
| 10:26.55 | sag_ich_nicht | but why the hell would it consume CPU cycles just running idle? |
| 10:26.57 | cryogen | seriously, is there no addon that will let me drag blizzard's frames where i want them? |
| 10:27.12 | Lywellyn | We're about to find out. I reenabled Atlas Loot to see if there's any issue now. |
| 10:27.16 | sag_ich_nicht | cryogen MobileFrames or MoveAnything |
| 10:27.24 | cryogen | moveanything isnt quite what i want |
| 10:27.28 | Gandharva | AtlasLoot only uses 3mb memory, but no CPU time... |
| 10:27.34 | cryogen | i want to drag them while they're open, not decide where they will appear |
| 10:27.42 | cryogen | i will look into mobileframes |
| 10:27.54 | Fisker- | i thought auctioneer weren't loaded until you visited the auction house |
| 10:27.55 | Lywellyn | Okay, it had to have been a fluke. My FPS is fine now. |
| 10:28.11 | Gandharva | Fisker-: You can set it to load always |
| 10:28.11 | Lywellyn | Fisker-: By default, yes, but I have mine loaded automatically when I log in. For the tooltips. :p |
| 10:28.41 | cryogen | mobileframes seems to do the jig, cheers i shall check that out this evening |
| 10:28.48 | Fisker- | the tooltips itself are shit |
| 10:29.01 | Fisker- | enhtooltip takes like 15-20FPS when mousing over stuff in the mailbox |
| 10:29.05 | Gandharva | what does mmobileframes do? |
| 10:29.05 | Lywellyn | damnit >< FPS dropped when I moved. |
| 10:29.09 | Gandharva | -m |
| 10:29.14 | sag_ich_nicht | Fisker-: that's blizzards code |
| 10:29.37 | sag_ich_nicht | Fisker-: not much you can do about it(except using a bag mod that works around the bug like engbags for example) |
| 10:29.56 | Fisker- | or use an auctioneer addon that works around it |
| 10:29.56 | sag_ich_nicht | will still happend at the mailbox and on actionbars and maybe the AH thou |
| 10:29.59 | sag_ich_nicht | also trade window |
| 10:30.05 | Fisker- | doesn't happen anywhere else |
| 10:30.10 | Fisker- | only mailbox |
| 10:30.12 | sag_ich_nicht | Fisker- |
| 10:30.20 | sag_ich_nicht | it's blizzards code |
| 10:30.23 | sag_ich_nicht | NOT auctioneer. |
| 10:30.29 | Fisker- | I don't care? |
| 10:30.45 | sag_ich_nicht | Fisker-: point is, go complain the UI forums or the bugreport forums about it |
| 10:30.51 | cryogen | seems mobileframes is dead, fluidframes replaces it |
| 10:30.54 | sag_ich_nicht | +in |
| 10:30.55 | sag_ich_nicht | erm |
| 10:30.58 | sag_ich_nicht | oh right sorry i typo'd |
| 10:31.02 | sag_ich_nicht | i meant fluidframes ^^ |
| 10:31.06 | Fisker- | why should i complain there? |
| 10:31.11 | Fisker- | You yourself said it could be worked around |
| 10:31.16 | sag_ich_nicht | for BAGS |
| 10:31.49 | Fisker- | So you're trying to tell me this is an issue that exists with the default UI? |
| 10:32.00 | cryogen | sag_ich_nicht: thanks for that :) |
| 10:32.04 | sag_ich_nicht | in the coding of the default UI. |
| 10:32.17 | sag_ich_nicht | it doesn't SHOW with the default UI though |
| 10:32.35 | sag_ich_nicht | because a tooltip refresh doesn't cause as much activity there |
| 10:33.06 | Fisker- | Why does it need to refresh the tooltip? |
| 10:33.11 | sag_ich_nicht | but the more addons you get that modify the tooltips of items, the more fps drop it causes, because the tooltip refreshcode is utterly retarded |
| 10:33.14 | sag_ich_nicht | cooldowns. |
| 10:33.23 | Fisker- | cooldowns on my mailbox items? |
| 10:33.26 | sag_ich_nicht | yeah |
| 10:33.27 | sag_ich_nicht | it told you |
| 10:33.31 | sag_ich_nicht | it's retarded. |
| 10:33.53 | Fisker- | It's a shame it's only Auctioneers tooltip modifications that causes it then |
| 10:33.53 | sag_ich_nicht | *i told you |
| 10:33.59 | sag_ich_nicht | Fisker- |
| 10:34.06 | Fisker- | I guess blizzard must have something in it for Auctioneer |
| 10:34.14 | sag_ich_nicht | The TOOLTIP REFRESH causes a REQUEST for DATA |
| 10:34.17 | sag_ich_nicht | to AUCTIONEER |
| 10:34.31 | sag_ich_nicht | that means the auctioneer DATABASE is QUERIED. |
| 10:34.35 | sag_ich_nicht | EACH. RENDERED. FRAME. |
| 10:34.48 | sag_ich_nicht | that is 60 database queries. per. second. |
| 10:34.57 | sag_ich_nicht | to a database of over 10000 items. |
| 10:34.59 | Fisker- | Thanks |
| 10:35.06 | abyssichate | Antiarc: are you going to add support for http://www.thottbot.com/s41520 ? |
| 10:35.16 | Fisker- | Now if you wrote that 6 minutes ago you would've saved me and yourself a lot of time |
| 10:35.18 | sag_ich_nicht | with price statistics over a timespan of multiple months |
| 10:35.23 | sag_ich_nicht | Fisker- |
| 10:35.27 | sag_ich_nicht | i told you it's a bug in blizzards code. |
| 10:35.30 | Lywellyn | sag_ich_nicht: Can my FPS issue have anything to do with where I'm at? |
| 10:35.40 | sag_ich_nicht | because they UNEEDEDLY do these refreshes |
| 10:35.46 | Fisker- | sag_ich_nicht yeah but you didn't tell anything about the bug until now |
| 10:35.57 | Nargiddley | sag_ich_nicht, a simple bliz has an onupdate that refreshes tooltips would have done |
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| 10:36.03 | Fisker- | ^^ |
| 10:36.30 | sag_ich_nicht | Nargiddley: :P |
| 10:36.39 | Fisker- | do want servers |
| 10:36.45 | sag_ich_nicht | "it's a bug in blizzards code" was easier. :P |
| 10:36.59 | sag_ich_nicht | although it's less of a bug |
| 10:37.02 | sag_ich_nicht | and more of bad coding |
| 10:37.04 | Fisker- | Looks pretty apparent it wasn't :P |
| 10:37.12 | Nargiddley | rather than the yelling it wasnt :P\ |
| 10:37.30 | sag_ich_nicht | uh, it's bad coding on blizzards side, not much auctioneer can do about it |
| 10:37.37 | sag_ich_nicht | yet you laid the blame on auctioneer |
| 10:37.42 | sag_ich_nicht | so: i got angry :P |
| 10:38.19 | sag_ich_nicht | bag addons work around it with secureframes/buttons where they can use their own code for the tooltip more or less ;P |
| 10:38.34 | Nargiddley | bag addons that use secure buttons should be shot :P |
| 10:38.50 | Nargiddley | dont need it for your own tooltip code |
| 10:39.04 | sag_ich_nicht | okay fine :P |
| 10:39.13 | Nargiddley | and locking bags in combat, eeew |
| 10:39.14 | sag_ich_nicht | point is, you can do it for bags, you can't do it for the mailbox(as far as i know) |
| 10:39.15 | sag_ich_nicht | :P |
| 10:39.25 | sag_ich_nicht | Nargiddley true enough :P |
| 10:39.39 | sag_ich_nicht | i think i'm fully awake yet |
| 10:39.40 | [Liquidor] | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qv9wk5lgGFo |
| 10:39.49 | sag_ich_nicht | actually that sentence was so stupid i should be kicked for it. |
| 10:39.57 | [Liquidor] | HHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHA http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qv9wk5lgGFo |
| 10:41.48 | sag_ich_nicht | ckknight are you there? |
| 10:42.02 | ckknight | yea |
| 10:42.04 | sag_ich_nicht | if so, kick me. that really was fucking stupid. |
| 10:42.20 | *** kick/#wowace [sag_ich_nicht!n=ckknight@rrcs-74-62-251-185.west.biz.rr.com] by ckknight (UR DUM) |
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| 10:42.26 | sag_ich_nicht | D: |
| 10:42.37 | Higdur | :) |
| 10:42.39 | sag_ich_nicht | btw. i think you can remove the pitbull message from the topic |
| 10:43.07 | sag_ich_nicht | considering 2.1.2 is out |
| 10:43.16 | Fisker- | It is? |
| 10:43.20 | Lywellyn | Yesh, it is |
| 10:43.25 | Fisker- | thought it was 2.1.1.1.1.2 |
| 10:43.28 | Fisker- | :P |
| 10:43.49 | Lywellyn | 2.1.2.54.39 to be more precise...I think |
| 10:44.02 | sag_ich_nicht | release.major.minor.build |
| 10:44.06 | sag_ich_nicht | :P |
| 10:44.07 | Kinkx | wru server :< |
| 10:44.27 | Lywellyn | sag_ich_nicht: Exactly. :p |
| 10:44.53 | Lywellyn | the real build is something like 6803 or whatever. |
| 10:45.18 | Gandharva | <PROTECTED> |
| 10:45.45 | sag_ich_nicht | ...damnit. |
| 10:45.48 | ckknight | I believe I fixed the issue in PitBull itself. |
| 10:45.48 | sag_ich_nicht | link pls. |
| 10:45.53 | Gandharva | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html;jsessionid=740D5D3C50B7F92F6896E5E8B271BEA3?topicId=110644023&sid=1&pageNo=2 |
| 10:45.54 | sag_ich_nicht | ckknight no |
| 10:45.55 | sag_ich_nicht | leave it in |
| 10:46.00 | ckknight | leave what in? |
| 10:46.04 | sag_ich_nicht | else they will never fix it |
| 10:46.04 | sag_ich_nicht | D: |
| 10:46.09 | sag_ich_nicht | the bug that crashes. |
| 10:46.14 | sag_ich_nicht | well, code |
| 10:46.15 | sag_ich_nicht | not bug |
| 10:46.16 | ckknight | but it's already fixed in 2.1.3... |
| 10:46.30 | sag_ich_nicht | i'll believe it when i see it |
| 10:47.07 | CIA-22 | 03helium * r40845 10ChatLog/ (ChatLog.lua Locale-enUS.lua Locale-zhTW.lua): ChatLog: updated zhTW localization |
| 10:47.13 | sag_ich_nicht | alspo the forums are slow as hell |
| 10:47.34 | sag_ich_nicht | he should stop adding new locals and god damn re-add the button left of the chatlog. |
| 10:47.58 | AnduinLothar | you whine everywhere don't you sag |
| 10:49.30 | harldephin | lol |
| 10:49.48 | AnduinLothar | latest version btw: http://www.karlkfi.com/WoW/Ace2Khaos+Khaos.zip |
| 10:51.12 | AnduinLothar | fixed a bunch of things, added standby implementation and added pcalls to the gets so that if they error it'll print which addon it's erroring from and the actual error. intead of saying that Ace2Khaos errored |
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| 10:53.14 | sylvanaar | AnduinLothar (everyone whines here) |
| 10:53.30 | Kinkx | God damnit, I hate everything |
| 10:53.45 | harldephin | to hate is bad |
| 10:54.22 | sylvanaar | AnduinLothar here's the errors from thab build |
| 10:54.28 | CIA-22 | 03roartindon * r40846 10Assessment/ (4 files in 2 dirs): |
| 10:54.28 | CIA-22 | Assessment |
| 10:54.28 | CIA-22 | - Added window specific fight data selection. |
| 10:54.33 | Sole | sylvanaar: I think youre terrible at life |
| 10:54.35 | Sole | HA! |
| 10:54.55 | Sole | ~seen nymbia |
| 10:55.01 | purl | nymbia <n=nymbia@75-166-29-251.hlrn.qwest.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 7h 37m 42s ago, saying: 'there will be smiting!'. |
| 10:55.01 | sag_ich_nicht | [12:47] <AnduinLothar> you whine everywhere don't you sag <--i asked him to do it 3 months ago when he initially removed it. |
| 10:55.14 | sylvanaar | AnduinLothar you too will learn to hate prat : http://ace.pastey.net/57193 |
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| 10:56.02 | AnduinLothar | any real errors or just those? |
| 10:56.09 | Sole | omg I downloaded this one addon called prat |
| 10:56.09 | sylvanaar | actually most of those errors are from the customfilters modules |
| 10:56.11 | Sole | and it was shit |
| 10:56.12 | sag_ich_nicht | and AnduinLotharif i wouldn't, half the bugs i found/reported would still be in ;P |
| 10:56.15 | Sole | so I used it for 5 months |
| 10:56.27 | sag_ich_nicht | lol prat |
| 10:56.29 | Lywellyn | ~seen lywellyn |
| 10:56.30 | purl | lywellyn is currently on #wowi-lounge (1h 1m 41s) #wowace (1h 1m 41s) #wowwiki (1h 1m 41s). Has said a total of 29 messages. Is idling for 1s, last said: '~seen lywellyn'. |
| 10:56.36 | sag_ich_nicht | btw. PRAT# |
| 10:56.39 | Lywellyn | nice. |
| 10:56.40 | sag_ich_nicht | -# |
| 10:56.42 | sag_ich_nicht | Shirik |
| 10:56.45 | Kinkx | sylvanaar - sometimes when I login or reload my UI, the Font size is lower then what it's suppose to be at, I have it set at 14, so I have to put it at 12, then up to 14 again to get it corrected :o |
| 10:56.46 | Sole | ^ wtf are you on about? |
| 10:56.49 | abyssichate | the new WAU is awesome |
| 10:56.49 | abyssichate | rofls |
| 10:58.17 | AnduinLothar | is prat disabled by default or what? |
| 10:58.38 | AnduinLothar | when does it define those functions? |
| 10:59.44 | sylvanaar | those are dynamically defined from the saved variables - they are custom built chat filters |
| 10:59.49 | Shirik | sag_ich_nicht: ? |
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| 11:00.02 | AnduinLothar | so, after vars loaded? |
| 11:00.16 | sbu | ckknight: 2.1.3? |
| 11:01.15 | sylvanaar | no, prat will post an event "Prat_Ready" when its done - and you cant assume that it will load all the modules |
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| 11:01.32 | AnduinLothar | um.. |
| 11:01.41 | AnduinLothar | when's that? |
| 11:02.00 | sylvanaar | Its Load on Demand - could be never |
| 11:02.17 | AnduinLothar | prat is lod or its modules are lod |
| 11:02.19 | AnduinLothar | ? |
| 11:03.06 | Lywellyn | Damn. Who's the author of TrainerFu again? |
| 11:03.19 | AnduinLothar | wouldn't it be easy to define the entire registry option in the module instead of just the function? |
| 11:03.42 | Sole | Lywellyn: when in doubt. consult the toc. |
| 11:03.51 | Lywellyn | or the wiki. :p |
| 11:03.53 | sylvanaar | AnduinLothar the registry is in Prat |
| 11:04.01 | AnduinLothar | why...? |
| 11:04.13 | sylvanaar | everything plugs into it |
| 11:04.16 | AnduinLothar | can't it update the registry after the module loads? |
| 11:04.18 | Sole | this sounds like smart people talk |
| 11:04.41 | Kinkx | Yep, I totally understand everything whats being said |
| 11:04.44 | Kinkx | ... |
| 11:05.02 | Kinkx | Lots of servers up now btw :) |
| 11:05.03 | harldephin | well why not |
| 11:05.17 | Lywellyn | Nickenyfiken: Ping |
| 11:05.29 | Sole | I understand what theyre saying, but at this time of night its making my brain asplode |
| 11:05.32 | sbu | PT3Bar-1.0\PT3Bar.lua:552: bad argument #1 to 'next' (table expected, got nil) |
| 11:05.32 | sbu | hm |
| 11:05.50 | Sole | peace Im out |
| 11:06.21 | sylvanaar | ok, im going to try prat in another configuration |
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| 11:09.45 | moonsorrow | ckknight: is it possible with the latest pitbull version to make the length of the castbar as before? like under the portrait, too. |
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| 11:10.03 | ckknight | no |
| 11:10.29 | Daemona | omg... is there a /command to open the trade dialog with an npc? |
| 11:10.32 | moonsorrow | and you won't give an option for that? |
| 11:10.40 | ckknight | not now |
| 11:10.49 | moonsorrow | k, then I'll have to change the layout |
| 11:11.04 | JoshBorke | i thought abf was the only layout |
| 11:11.06 | Kinkx | AnduinLothar - in Archaeologist_HealthBar_OnValueChanged it "return true, value, not smooth;", so if any other addon makes use of HealthBar_OnValueChanged(arg1, true), it will not be smooth, won't it? :/ |
| 11:11.26 | sylvanaar | AnduinLothar if i turn all prats modules off, and have them niled out i get only 1 error |
| 11:11.29 | Gandharva | ckknight: log out near the npc, log in and the first thing you should see is the npc. klick it and be happy :) |
| 11:11.39 | AnduinLothar | Kinkx: pretty much |
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| 11:11.55 | Gandharva | uuppps, Daemona, not ckknight ^^ |
| 11:12.08 | CIA-22 | 03roartindon * r40847 10Assessment/ (Assessment.lua Modules/BarInterface.lua): |
| 11:12.08 | CIA-22 | Assessment |
| 11:12.08 | CIA-22 | - Now has the ability to save your fight data at any stage for future reference. |
| 11:12.16 | sag_ich_nicht | or |
| 11:12.27 | sag_ich_nicht | you use ctrl + tab |
| 11:12.28 | sag_ich_nicht | or |
| 11:12.35 | sag_ich_nicht | go to the vendor in the hall of champions |
| 11:12.46 | sag_ich_nicht | because they temp cloned him so he's there as well |
| 11:12.58 | sylvanaar | AnduinLothar AceToKhaos.lua:142 - attempt to call field ? a nil value |
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| 11:13.25 | Daemona | sag_ich_nicht its not a problem to target em, the problem is to INTERACT with em ;) |
| 11:13.41 | AnduinLothar | erg ok. only place i forgot to add a pcall |
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| 11:14.19 | sbu | Daemona: hmm - why would you do that? |
| 11:14.19 | Gandharva | Daemona: Try what I wrote. It works. Or dl AtlasLoot. |
| 11:14.34 | sbu | Daemona: whats the problem with your NPC + mouse click? :P |
| 11:15.02 | Daemona | erhm probably the 200 alliance on my server that want to buy the new arena rewards spamming nova/blast wave and arcane explosion ;) |
| 11:15.15 | sbu | press V |
| 11:15.19 | CIA-22 | 03thexod * r40848 10ItemValue/ItemValue.lua: |
| 11:15.19 | CIA-22 | ItemValue: |
| 11:15.19 | CIA-22 | - Fixed display of gem values |
| 11:15.20 | sbu | and rightclick on nameplate |
| 11:15.28 | Gandharva | wohooo, T4 undead shoulders are fixed! |
| 11:15.45 | sbu | hm |
| 11:15.48 | sbu | disconnected from server |
| 11:15.56 | AnduinLothar | sylvanaar: thx. i'll fix it tomorrow need sleep. it's 4am |
| 11:16.05 | JoshBorke | nn AnduinLothar |
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| 11:16.39 | Gandharva | Daemona: Then go Champions Hall |
| 11:16.53 | Gandharva | There should be no Alliance |
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| 11:17.53 | sylvanaar | AnduinLothar its working pretty good actually - i just doesnt quite know how to deal with the different ways that addons use thier options files |
| 11:19.27 | sylvanaar | im pretty impressed though, it looks like a combo between ACP and Waterfall |
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| 11:20.09 | sylvanaar | better that i remember it looking |
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| 11:21.30 | sylvanaar | my old profiles are still there i think i can see them |
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| 11:23.36 | sylvanaar | AnduinLothar perhaps reverse orientation of the dependancies tree/node pairs in the tree view so the main dependancy has its children as subitems |
| 11:24.28 | CIA-22 | 03helium * r40849 10Babble-2.2/Babble-Spell-2.2/Babble-Spell-2.2.lua: |
| 11:24.28 | CIA-22 | Babble-2.2: |
| 11:24.28 | CIA-22 | - Spell: Added "Improved Fire Totems" |
| 11:24.38 | sylvanaar | nn folks - time to get more sweet stuff and then sleep |
| 11:24.58 | CIA-22 | 03helium * r40850 10Chronometer/ (4 files in 3 dirs): |
| 11:24.58 | CIA-22 | Chronometer: |
| 11:24.58 | CIA-22 | - updated zhTW localization |
| 11:32.08 | Chompers | the arena vendors swamped with people |
| 11:32.18 | Chompers | everyones attacking one another |
| 11:32.27 | Chompers | and the guards joined in oh god |
| 11:32.31 | abbat_w | =) |
| 11:32.36 | JoshBorke | lol |
| 11:33.12 | sbu | wtb nymbia |
| 11:33.15 | sbu | to fix pt3bar :/ |
| 11:34.52 | Fisker- | waaaaaaah |
| 11:34.57 | Fisker- | i didn't get an armored netherdrake |
| 11:35.02 | Fisker- | blizzard should give it to everyone :( |
| 11:35.05 | Fisker- | cause it's too hard |
| 11:35.42 | abyssichate | half of the people on my server got one |
| 11:35.55 | abyssichate | they blatantly fucked the delivering up :s |
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| 11:40.07 | yacoob | hm |
| 11:40.26 | yacoob | anyone knows whether wow us and eu timecodes are compatible? |
| 11:41.54 | Summoner | usually not, yacoob, you need to reformat to dd/mm/yyy |
| 11:43.23 | yacoob | er... I mean the codes that extend your gametime in WoW :D |
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| 11:44.32 | Summoner | ah ok :) then no, I doubt they will work |
| 11:44.46 | Summoner | the first few digits probably indicate the continent |
| 11:45.12 | CIA-22 | 03athou * r40851 10CraftList2/CraftList2.lua: |
| 11:45.12 | CIA-22 | CraftList2: |
| 11:45.12 | CIA-22 | - was throwing an error for items/enchant not present in the game cache |
| 11:47.35 | yacoob | my guess as well... too bad, could save some EUR :) |
| 11:49.18 | CIA-22 | 03thexod * r40852 10ItemValue/ItemValue.lua: |
| 11:49.18 | CIA-22 | ItemValue: |
| 11:49.18 | CIA-22 | - Fixed best jewels function for jewels not in the local itemcache |
| 11:49.18 | CIA-22 | - Comparison display fixes |
| 11:49.38 | CIA-22 | 03ammo * r40853 10Violation/ (13 files in 5 dirs): Violation: Big change. Pet Broadcasting added. 2 leaks plugged. May eat your babies. requires proper testing. |
| 11:50.52 | CIA-22 | 03roartindon * r40854 10Assessment/ (12 files in 4 dirs): |
| 11:50.52 | CIA-22 | Assessment |
| 11:50.52 | CIA-22 | - Drycoded automatic boss kill support |
| 11:50.52 | CIA-22 | - Some reorganization, and option changes. |
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| 11:59.58 | CIA-22 | 03sayclub * r40855 10Babble-2.2/Babble-Spell-2.2/Babble-Spell-2.2.lua: |
| 11:59.58 | CIA-22 | Babble-2.2: |
| 11:59.59 | CIA-22 | - Spell: koKR Update |
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| 12:09.09 | Mikk | function myxpcall(func, ...) xpcall(function() func(...), errhandler) end |
| 12:09.24 | Mikk | lua: cannot use '...' outside a vararg function near '...' |
| 12:09.32 | Mikk | it's the second use of ... it's complaining about |
| 12:09.49 | Mikk | how the hell do I get it in there? o.O |
| 12:11.16 | Josh_Borke | hm |
| 12:11.22 | pb_ee1 | Use a hammer |
| 12:11.27 | pb_ee1 | :p |
| 12:11.32 | Josh_Borke | mikk: syntax erro |
| 12:11.43 | Josh_Borke | xpcall(function() func(...) end, errhandler) end |
| 12:11.51 | Mikk | yeah yeah, it's a freeform simplification of my problem |
| 12:11.56 | Josh_Borke | hm |
| 12:11.59 | Mikk | the actual myxpcall function is like 30 lines :P |
| 12:12.31 | Josh_Borke | i guess you can't use ... as an upvalue |
| 12:12.32 | Mikk | wonder if can assign ... to some other local |
| 12:13.29 | Josh_Borke | function myxpcall(func, ...) local rets = function() return ... end; xpcall(function() func(rets()) end, errhandler) end |
| 12:13.32 | Mikk | erm, whoot |
| 12:13.39 | Mikk | local dotdotdot = ... |
| 12:13.50 | Josh_Borke | you know that's only teh first value in ..., right? |
| 12:13.50 | Mikk | xpcall(function() func(dotdotdot), errhanler) |
| 12:13.53 | Mikk | oh |
| 12:13.59 | Mikk | bastards |
| 12:14.01 | Josh_Borke | try mine |
| 12:14.06 | Josh_Borke | it's kinda wasteful though |
| 12:14.10 | Josh_Borke | as in really wasteful |
| 12:14.20 | Mikk | i doubt it'll work |
| 12:14.29 | Mikk | you still have the problem of having a "..." inside a function that isn't vararg |
| 12:14.40 | [Liquidor] | Haha awesome commercial !! http://video.google.pl/videoplay?docid=-3039165648114195452 |
| 12:14.43 | Josh_Borke | oh it'll work, muwahaha |
| 12:14.45 | [Liquidor] | Are you fast enough? |
| 12:14.56 | Josh_Borke | or maybe it won't |
| 12:15.32 | Mikk | no, exact same problem |
| 12:15.51 | Mikk | and yeah my dotdotdot solution only ends up passing one arg |
| 12:16.33 | Mikk | lessee.... "..." is basically a next(somethinghidden) function call, yeah? |
| 12:17.00 | Mikk | hm, no |
| 12:17.16 | Mikk | it really is the equivalent of lots of vars separated by commas |
| 12:17.33 | Mikk | fuckit, i'll shove it in a table. see if i care. |
| 12:22.38 | pastamancer | Mikk: yeah, you can't really do much with ... |
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| 12:25.10 | abyssichate | Does anyone have a clue about what could cause this error? 2007/06/20 14:24:30-1209-x126]: Interface\FrameXML\ChatFrame.lua:1295: Unknown unit token: Snikch: |
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| 12:25.17 | abyssichate | Snikch is a player, ofcourse |
| 12:27.42 | abyssichate | I fixed it, I had /cast [target=Snikch] Devour Magic as macro |
| 12:27.53 | abyssichate | which is for some reasons not allowed anymore (?) |
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| 12:32.00 | Josh_Borke | mikk: you can just use arg1, arg2, arg3, arg4, arg5, arg6, arg7, arg8, arg9,ar10 etc ;-) |
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| 12:33.30 | RogueShadow | My pitbull arrangement reset itself. |
| 12:33.41 | Josh_Borke | don't update pitbull? :-D |
| 12:33.54 | RogueShadow | lol. Sounds good. |
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| 12:34.54 | Thrae | Mikk: Lua 5.1 has ... being much better on the resource usage, especially when compared to making a table (the old functionality). You can use select() to get each value. |
| 12:36.28 | Josh_Borke | he doesn't want select thrae |
| 12:36.37 | Josh_Borke | he wants to pass ... to another function |
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| 12:39.23 | CIA-22 | 03celellach * r40856 10AtlasLoot/ (5 files in 4 dirs): |
| 12:39.23 | CIA-22 | AtlasLoot: |
| 12:39.23 | CIA-22 | - Added new arena items. |
| 12:39.23 | CIA-22 | - Added a placeholder for the Arena armor sets |
| 12:39.23 | CIA-22 | - Small fixes |
| 12:39.55 | CIA-22 | 03roartindon * r40857 10FuBar_oRA2CooldownFu/oRA2CooldownFu.lua: FuBar_oRA2CooldownFu: Written by me when I was new to lua, and had no idea of the cost of creating temporary tables. Fixed. |
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| 12:42.29 | CIA-22 | 03arkayenro 07v2beta * r40858 10ArkInventory/ (5 files in 2 dirs): |
| 12:42.29 | CIA-22 | ArkInventory: |
| 12:42.29 | CIA-22 | - v2.00 beta 2007-JUN-20-22-45 |
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| 12:44.12 | cladhaire | Saroz: I responded to your post, and you seem to be mistaken. I'm open to discussion if you have further questions |
| 12:50.22 | Higdur | is there any rough ETA on WAU2? |
| 12:50.40 | cladhaire | Higdur: Kaelten said within two weeks yesterday, afaik |
| 12:50.52 | Higdur | ah, cool |
| 12:50.59 | chutwig | is this the one where it's being rewritten in java? |
| 12:51.03 | Higdur | looking forward to that... |
| 12:51.14 | chutwig | so that the macintosh-using intelligentsia can use it |
| 12:51.27 | CIA-22 | 03celellach * r40859 10AtlasLoot/Sets/sets.lua: |
| 12:51.27 | CIA-22 | AtlasLoot: |
| 12:51.27 | CIA-22 | - added Swift Nether Drake to mount page |
| 12:51.31 | cladhaire | chutwig: yep |
| 12:51.38 | chutwig | cladhaire: huzzahs are in order |
| 12:51.47 | Higdur | would be useful |
| 12:51.55 | Higdur | not that I play wow often on this comp |
| 12:51.59 | kenlyric | mofo! |
| 12:52.13 | chutwig | my only computer now is a mac, i got rid of my PC |
| 12:52.54 | Higdur | my PC is stationary, my laptop is a mac |
| 12:55.01 | trh | cladhaire/ Higdur: he meant open beta is ready in 1-2 weeks |
| 12:55.10 | Higdur | ok |
| 12:55.13 | cladhaire | trh: ah okay, either way =) |
| 12:55.20 | cladhaire | this is ace.. beta IS release! |
| 12:55.28 | Higdur | if it implements stable releases I'm happy :) |
| 12:55.34 | Higdur | lol yeah |
| 12:55.39 | Josh_Borke | lol clad |
| 12:56.10 | trh | <3 fan.. it's 30°C outside in the shadow |
| 12:56.24 | Fisker- | man i lol'd @ quake wars |
| 12:56.47 | Fisker- | people tried to vote me out because i kept taking their spawn point and killing them |
| 12:56.47 | Higdur | trh: like 22 here, share some warmth :o |
| 12:59.49 | Fisker- | do not want |
| 13:00.52 | kenlyric | "in the shadow" sounds so sinister |
| 13:02.09 | sbu | hm wtf |
| 13:02.16 | sbu | ported to shatt and cant login anymore |
| 13:02.38 | sbu | i hear player sound but still loading screen |
| 13:02.41 | sbu | for 5 minutes now... |
| 13:03.25 | sbu | mh reboot.... |
| 13:05.36 | Matrix110 | Fisker- is Quake Wars still Bitchplanet only? |
| 13:05.49 | Cryect | its always fileplanet only |
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| 13:06.25 | Cryect | at the moment its only new annual or founders subscribers or if you went to the special page before they removed it |
| 13:07.55 | trh | btw: great time to sell gems after server got back up and everyone got their arena gear ^^ |
| 13:08.26 | abbat_w | enchants too |
| 13:08.32 | abbat_w | and regs too |
| 13:08.52 | abbat_w | Go to area52 and look how many ppl here ;) |
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| 13:09.43 | trh | looked very funny there |
| 13:09.50 | trh | like stacks of corpses in that house :) |
| 13:09.56 | trh | at least 50 people or sth |
| 13:10.16 | [Ammoo] | hrmf, other server lost connection |
| 13:10.20 | [Ammoo] | damn basement servers |
| 13:10.37 | *** mode/#wowace [+o [Ammo]] by ChanServ |
| 13:10.48 | Punkie` | [Ammo] = fail |
| 13:11.24 | cryogen | sag_ich_nicht: thanks very much for that recommendation, it was just what i wanted :D |
| 13:11.28 | cryogen | <--- very very happy now |
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| 13:19.08 | Fin | may I ask: recommendation of what? |
| 13:19.21 | cryogen | fluidframes |
| 13:19.27 | Fin | ohh |
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| 13:22.48 | CIA-22 | 03gandharva * r40860 10AtlasLoot/ (Constants/constants.en.lua DefaultFrame/DewDropDown.lua): |
| 13:22.48 | CIA-22 | AtlasLoot: |
| 13:22.48 | CIA-22 | - make S2 Items browsable so people can see them in AtlasLoot |
| 13:23.15 | kenlyric | ? |
| 13:23.23 | kenlyric | that's just. odd. |
| 13:24.23 | Punkie` | kenlyric: huh? |
| 13:24.44 | kenlyric | arena gear in atlasloot. just seems odd. |
| 13:24.57 | deltron | why not? it has every other set :P |
| 13:26.11 | Thrae | I IS LOOT THA ARENA! |
| 13:27.22 | CIA-22 | 03thexod * r40861 10ItemValue/ (Data_Jewels.lua ItemValue.lua): |
| 13:27.22 | CIA-22 | ItemValue: |
| 13:27.22 | CIA-22 | - Bestjewel fixes and jewel optimizations |
| 13:27.23 | CIA-22 | - Fix for tooltip text not shown with equal points but different items |
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| 13:30.15 | QuantumDelta | ckknight ya here? |
| 13:30.42 | QuantumDelta | oh well |
| 13:30.47 | QuantumDelta | all fixed bro nice work |
| 13:30.55 | CIA-22 | 03sayclub * r40862 10BagSlots/BagSlots.lua: |
| 13:30.55 | CIA-22 | BagSlots: |
| 13:30.55 | CIA-22 | - Added translation koKR |
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| 13:41.59 | cryogen | i know the philosphy of release often is a good one, but wua are taking the piss a bit |
| 13:42.34 | cryogen | especially since the "auto update" isnt very "auto" at al |
| 13:43.01 | Fin | can anybody recommend an EU server worth migrating to? just one character |
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| 13:43.35 | Punkie` | Depends on your class, Fin! |
| 13:43.39 | Punkie` | ;) |
| 13:43.52 | cryogen | depends on a whole load of things id say |
| 13:44.01 | Fin | well, it's a choice of a 60 priest (holy / disc), rogue (combat), or warrior (tank) |
| 13:44.19 | Fin | +3x currently |
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| 13:45.23 | Fin | (alliance) |
| 13:45.39 | cryogen | couple of bugs in the new wua too |
| 13:45.44 | Trancer | just do not migrate to skullcrusher turalyon stonemaul or twisting nether |
| 13:45.47 | Trancer | thoe servers suck |
| 13:46.17 | chutwig | skullcrusher \m/_ _\m/ |
| 13:46.26 | chutwig | they finally fixed skullcrusher US when BC came out |
| 13:51.38 | Shamino | ckknight: wanted to followup on an old bug for AceDB that i noticed still occurs. http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=4714.0 should i create a trac ticket for this? |
| 13:53.08 | sbu | kenlyric: mh well no, i'd love to have rep-rewards, pvp-rewards and instance-trash-loot (only bosses at the moment?!) in cartographer too ;o |
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| 13:54.36 | Trancer | chutwig: skullcrusher EU is totally messed up |
| 13:54.55 | Trancer | it's frequently called UAECrusher.. and well Stonemaul.. Sovietmaul is more like it |
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| 13:55.02 | Trancer | I was in the last English guild there before we migrated, the horror |
| 13:55.09 | chutwig | heh |
| 13:55.16 | chutwig | skullcrusher US is full of brazilians and quebecois |
| 13:55.34 | Fin | noted Transfer, thanks |
| 13:55.37 | Trancer | Do they still try to speak English? |
| 13:55.42 | chutwig | usually |
| 13:55.46 | Trancer | That's not bad |
| 13:56.10 | chutwig | the foreign language guilds are a minority |
| 13:56.25 | abyssichate | Frostmane is a pretty decent server I guess |
| 13:57.21 | Hjalte | Hmm. Why does AVG Resident Shield tell me that BackgroundDownloader.exe has a Trojan Horse in it? oO |
| 13:57.33 | chutwig | IT'S A TRAP |
| 13:57.34 | Punkie` | read the wow forums |
| 13:57.40 | Punkie` | false positive |
| 13:57.41 | yacoob | it's a hidden feature. |
| 13:57.56 | chutwig | blizzard made an oops with the mac patch yesterday |
| 13:58.01 | yacoob | to make sure you're fully protected, it's best to post your username, password, and visa number on wowace forums. |
| 13:58.11 | chutwig | the binary inside the bundle was not marked executable so the patch didn't work :3 |
| 13:58.52 | Cryect | Blizzard's keylogger :-O |
| 13:59.58 | cryogen | i wonder how much trust AV companies put in people like blizzard |
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| 14:00.12 | odiszs^arbeiten | where do I sned transcripts of bossfights to |
| 14:00.13 | cryogen | so when blizzard say to them "yeah you're checker is giving us a false positive" do they actually check it, or what :) |
| 14:00.32 | yacoob | cryogen, they watch them whether they giggle or not. :) |
| 14:01.20 | chutwig | any mac users here right now who can tell me what the full name of the patch is? |
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| 14:03.59 | durcyn | WoW-2.1.1.6739-to-2.1.2.6803-enUS-downloader.app |
| 14:03.59 | durcyn | WoW-2.1.1.6739-to-2.1.2.6803-enUS-patch.app |
| 14:04.02 | durcyn | chutwig ^ |
| 14:04.03 | chutwig | thanks |
| 14:04.27 | durcyn | assuming you're not eu or something |
| 14:04.34 | chutwig | i'm no communist |
| 14:04.55 | Dotted | europeans are communists? |
| 14:04.58 | chutwig | every last one |
| 14:05.13 | chutwig | durcyn: in Contents/MacOS inside the patch one, the binary is named Installer, right? |
| 14:05.20 | Dotted | oh well better than being a capitalist |
| 14:05.28 | abyssichate | word! |
| 14:05.43 | chutwig | greedy fat imperialist american pig, you mean |
| 14:05.58 | Dotted | same thing eventually |
| 14:06.37 | chutwig | amerikkka |
| 14:06.48 | Dotted | wow is a communist game |
| 14:08.26 | jme | ... |
| 14:08.51 | QuantumDelta | ya know if communism worked i'd prefer it over democrasy |
| 14:08.53 | QuantumDelta | pity it never would |
| 14:09.01 | Cryect | if wow was a communist game where's my montly checks ingame for doing nothing! :-p |
| 14:09.05 | Cryect | I need my WoW wellfare |
| 14:09.11 | durcyn | chutwig: yes. File: `Installer' Size: 2295160 Blocks: 4488 IO Block: 4096 regular file |
| 14:09.13 | jme | wowfare |
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| 14:09.32 | Codayus | Cryect: Consortium gem packet? |
| 14:09.58 | durcyn | daily quests are close enough |
| 14:10.00 | Cryect | Codayus: you only get that if you help those capitalists! |
| 14:10.00 | Codayus | ...actually, some of the daily quests aren't far off either. :-p |
| 14:10.06 | jme | This forum is currently undergoing maintenance, please check back at a later time. |
| 14:10.10 | jme | nooooooooo |
| 14:10.11 | durcyn | though i'm rather pissed they nerfed the skyguard prisoner reward. |
| 14:10.13 | jme | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:10.19 | Cryect | what did they nerf about it? |
| 14:10.27 | chutwig | you get unstable pots now instead of super pots |
| 14:10.32 | Cryect | oh thats crap |
| 14:10.33 | hyperChipmunk | you can't make pot injectors out of them anymore D8< |
| 14:10.45 | chutwig | you are why we can't have nice things |
| 14:10.45 | hyperChipmunk | luckily i have like 5 stockpiled now |
| 14:10.47 | Cryect | whatever not that I personally use potions |
| 14:11.00 | yacoob | er... comparing communism to democracy is like comparing apple to bicycle |
| 14:11.00 | Codayus | Hmm, what were the point of pot injectors, anyhow? Just bag space? |
| 14:11.02 | Cryect | Damn bears/cats not using potions |
| 14:11.06 | Dotted | [Cryect]: if wow was a communist game where's my montly checks ingame for doing nothing! :-p <- you cant stop working even in a communist country |
| 14:11.07 | Cryect | thats it! |
| 14:11.12 | Fisker- | manbearpig? |
| 14:11.16 | chutwig | cereal |
| 14:11.25 | hyperChipmunk | Codayus: basically |
| 14:11.26 | yacoob | (one is ideology, the other is form of government) |
| 14:11.26 | abbat_w | Hahaha ;) |
| 14:11.29 | Cryect | Dotted: my character is a cripple (and I can RP that if needed) :-p |
| 14:11.37 | hyperChipmunk | they fit in your profession bag too |
| 14:11.45 | abbat_w | Cryect, you stop playing druid? |
| 14:11.51 | durcyn | stacked them to what, 20 instead of 5? |
| 14:11.52 | abbat_w | I see you early movies |
| 14:12.00 | hyperChipmunk | yea, 20 charges |
| 14:12.04 | chutwig | too bad you had to be an engineer for them |
| 14:12.09 | hyperChipmunk | the mats are pretty much inconsequential |
| 14:12.11 | Cryect | no still playing my druid (well actually haven't logged into him in a wee) |
| 14:12.15 | Dotted | Cryect you fail there are no animations of a cripple in wow ;( |
| 14:12.16 | Codayus | yacoob: Actually, some political theorists classify communism as a form of government, and socialism as an ecomomic system. Thus, contrasting communism and democracy is quite sensible. |
| 14:12.17 | Hjalte | Is it still possible for an addon to delete soul shards from your bags once you have a set limit? |
| 14:12.18 | hyperChipmunk | so no real reason not to do them |
| 14:12.22 | Flexom | is there a bug with bulkmail? tried sending a shitload of gems and wow locked up on the last 5 gems and I had to kill the wow.exe process:p |
| 14:12.23 | durcyn | that whole requires engineering to use thing can kiss my grits, though. |
| 14:12.29 | odiszs^arbeiten | I have a transcript of the Mother Shahraz fight in Black Temple |
| 14:12.34 | odiszs^arbeiten | who should I submitt it to |
| 14:12.35 | odiszs^arbeiten | or where |
| 14:12.36 | abbat_w | Heh |
| 14:12.44 | durcyn | odiszs^arbeiten: post it on the wowace.com/forums bigwigs - blacktemple section |
| 14:12.49 | yacoob | Codayus, that's pretty funny idea :) |
| 14:12.50 | odiszs^arbeiten | cool |
| 14:12.51 | hyperChipmunk | Flexom: it's possible >8) |
| 14:13.04 | Flexom | hyperChipmunk: hehe |
| 14:13.17 | abbat_w | Another class i want to test is druid. Now playing mage and think what mage and druid - most fun classes in this game. Or communist game if you want ;) |
| 14:13.30 | chutwig | commugame, if you will |
| 14:13.38 | hyperChipmunk | i'm gonna look into the send and receive functions today to see if i can streamline them better to protect against congested loops |
| 14:13.52 | Daemona | http://img510.imageshack.us/my.php?image=wowjpg1ps3ts1.jpg |
| 14:13.53 | deltron | mages are fun if you like to die a lot :) |
| 14:14.01 | chutwig | that's what frost is for :o |
| 14:14.01 | abbat_w | ;) |
| 14:14.07 | abbat_w | deltron ;) |
| 14:14.10 | deltron | what's that? |
| 14:14.14 | Dotted | if you wann play a capitalist game play EVE or somethin :P |
| 14:14.18 | deltron | I don't think I ever specced frost :P |
| 14:14.24 | chutwig | EVE is more like playing excel |
| 14:14.35 | deltron | lol |
| 14:14.38 | Cryect | with pretty desktops |
| 14:14.49 | Cryect | oh and your interface is bump mapped! |
| 14:14.51 | jme | my 20 mage is fire, ez mode... stand back and spam fireball |
| 14:14.52 | Dotted | excel == capitlist application |
| 14:15.02 | chutwig | and every once in a while CCB likes to aid the other numbers by giving them special blueprints |
| 14:15.11 | yacoob | chutwig, Eve is fine, hush. |
| 14:15.11 | Cryect | and gets lit according to your backgorund |
| 14:15.16 | kenlyric | we need a pt3 set for "things that can be opened" |
| 14:15.22 | deltron | my mage has 3 in frost... |
| 14:15.25 | yacoob | (at least as much fun as wow was when I was <lvl 20 :) |
| 14:15.32 | chutwig | yacoob: sorry i come from goonfleet and have a hatred of BoB |
| 14:15.44 | yacoob | chutwig, too bad :P |
| 14:15.46 | chutwig | and the illegitimate aid they received |
| 14:16.02 | jme | i'm actually respeccing mine to frost the first chance i get |
| 14:16.25 | jme | and i'm thinking about speccing my 70 hunter back to BM :( |
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| 14:17.14 | deltron | BM is fun |
| 14:17.17 | Tobi2342342 | who knows http://wow.tachyonsix.com/armory/ ? |
| 14:17.23 | jme | yeah, i levelled with BM |
| 14:17.38 | jme | lately i've been reading that BM is out dpsing MM in instances and raids |
| 14:17.42 | durcyn | i hate bm hunters with the flaming burning passion of a thousand hot hot suns |
| 14:17.48 | jme | :D |
| 14:17.50 | chutwig | the death coil it does nothing |
| 14:18.11 | Codayus | jme: BM is the optimum spec for min/max raiding right now. Although it's kinda weak on non-pet-friendly fights. |
| 14:18.12 | durcyn | "oh, your pet just stunned me, crit me for 1k, and you sat there drinking. Yay." |
| 14:18.38 | jme | Codayus: as in fights with lots of melee range aoe? |
| 14:18.46 | Codayus | Yeah...void reaver isn't fun... |
| 14:18.55 | jme | :/ |
| 14:19.09 | Codayus | But even there they do well enough due to the power of serpents swiftness. |
| 14:19.17 | jme | Codayus: what's the pet of the week for instances/raiding? i'm still using my ghostlands cat i've had since level 10, heh |
| 14:19.46 | Codayus | Ravagers I hear? Frankly it doesn't much matter... |
| 14:20.10 | jme | true |
| 14:20.11 | Codayus | Pick something high-DPS which can learn some damage skills. :-) |
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| 14:21.20 | chutwig | kick the baby |
| 14:22.12 | Codayus | Frenzy + Cobra Reflexes gives your pet a super-low attack speed. That keeps FI up most of the time, which is a pretty decent party buff. |
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| 14:26.09 | Gnarfoz | Tobi2342342: most of us, I guess, even the author of those tools is around here |
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| 14:27.39 | Fisker- | anyone wanna fap? :I |
| 14:28.01 | CIA-22 | 03roartindon * r40863 10OneBag/ (OneBag.lua OneCore.lua): |
| 14:28.01 | CIA-22 | OneBag |
| 14:28.01 | CIA-22 | - After watching OneBag jump by ~6MB after a night's play, I looked into it and plugged the memory leaks. |
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| 14:29.30 | [Ammo] | oh nice roartindon :) |
| 14:31.38 | hyperChipmunk | next up: baggins? |
| 14:31.48 | [Ammo] | why if onebag is already patched :p |
| 14:33.01 | odiszs^arbeiten | uploaded mother shahraz transcripter logg to the black temple thread |
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| 14:33.41 | Gandharva | There is also a patch provided by jerry to fix OneView. |
| 14:34.30 | Gandharva | http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=1640.msg112423#msg112423 |
| 14:34.37 | Silviu- | Baud Bag ftw :) |
| 14:35.03 | [Ammo] | wonder if OneBank needs the same treatment |
| 14:35.07 | Stephmw | Silviu-: all it needs is multi-character viewing |
| 14:35.14 | Silviu- | Yep :) |
| 14:35.21 | Silviu- | But it looks nice :) |
| 14:35.38 | Silviu- | And well .. first time open = 20 kib increase Onebag 400 :) |
| 14:35.48 | Silviu- | and 2 sec freeze :) |
| 14:36.25 | Stephmw | Silviu-: don't you know you're supposed to carry nothing with you as you wander around? |
| 14:36.37 | [Ammo] | no freeze with onebag here and works fine shrug |
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| 14:36.55 | Silviu- | i used Onebag too for verry long |
| 14:37.04 | Stephmw | ditto |
| 14:37.05 | Silviu- | http://www-en.curse-gaming.com/downloads/details/5420/ but this looks cool :P |
| 14:37.19 | Gnarfoz | great |
| 14:37.24 | Silviu- | i also downloaded Baud Mount yesterday |
| 14:37.27 | Silviu- | Works nice |
| 14:37.27 | Silviu- | ;) |
| 14:37.36 | Gnarfoz | I log out at the arena vendor to be right there when I login after today's patch |
| 14:37.44 | Gnarfoz | and now they spawn copies of the damn NPC all over the place ;D |
| 14:37.48 | Silviu- | ;)) |
| 14:38.06 | cryogen | one day maybe blizzard will be proactive, rather than reactive |
| 14:38.31 | cryogen | "oh right, this event might mean a lot of people are in one place at once.. hmm.." |
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| 14:43.45 | Gnarfoz | ~seen sylvanaar |
| 14:43.47 | purl | sylvanaar <n=sylvanaa@205-196-182-22.static.cmts1.phonoscope.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 3h 19m 9s ago, saying: 'nn folks - time to get more sweet stuff and then sleep'. |
| 14:43.49 | Silviu- | Hmm |
| 14:43.56 | Silviu- | my mount change in my action bar |
| 14:44.03 | Silviu- | when i am outland it`s my flying |
| 14:44.15 | Silviu- | when in azeroth ground |
| 14:44.17 | Silviu- | feature ? ;) |
| 14:44.31 | sbu | hmm |
| 14:47.09 | Kalman| | Macro? |
| 14:48.12 | mikma | Silviu-: macro makes that happen |
| 14:48.18 | Silviu- | No macro |
| 14:48.48 | Silviu- | Only happand from today`s patch |
| 14:48.52 | Silviu- | so must be a feature |
| 14:48.52 | Silviu- | :D |
| 14:49.19 | mikma | i still say it's a macro :D |
| 14:49.29 | Gnarfoz | ~botmail |
| 14:49.49 | Silviu- | I have no macros for mount :) |
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| 14:52.47 | mitch0 | yo |
| 14:55.08 | CIA-22 | 03gandharva * r40864 10OneStorage/OneStorage-2.0/OneStorage-2.0.lua: OneStorage - applied jerrys patch to fix a bug were you cannot view characters from the opposite faction. |
| 14:55.12 | CIA-22 | 03gandharva * r40865 10OneView/OneView.lua: OneView - applied jerrys patch to fix a bug where you cannot view characters from the opposite faction. |
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| 15:04.27 | Gnarfoz | 17:04:09|You receive item: [Merciless Gladiator's Quickblade]. <--- yay :D |
| 15:04.40 | Punkie` | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:06.05 | kenlyric | Antiarc: [2007/06/20 11:04:31-496-x1]: Threat-1.0\Threat-1.0\ThreatClassModuleCore.lua:946: bad argument #1 to 'pairs' (table expected, got nil). Same as last night, but I just updated earlier this morning. When calling shadowfiend in combat. |
| 15:06.27 | trh | kenlyric: he said it's fixed when he commits the pet module |
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| 15:06.54 | kenlyric | ah, ok. |
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| 15:08.12 | Mech0z | if a person both have ktm and threat1.0 then my omen will read his threat1.0 right? |
| 15:08.22 | Mech0z | it chekcs if he has that first I presume |
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| 15:08.42 | nadas | correct |
| 15:08.45 | Josh_Borke | omen doesn't read ktm values |
| 15:08.59 | Mech0z | how does it get ktm values then?` |
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| 15:09.16 | trh | Threat-1.0 does |
| 15:09.22 | durcyn | omen displays data from Threat. Threat will receive KTM data. |
| 15:09.39 | Mech0z | well ok |
| 15:09.48 | nadas | result is the same |
| 15:10.00 | nadas | data displayed will be threat > ktm |
| 15:10.07 | durcyn | it's semantics, yes. the end result is that any Threat-1.0 front-end can display KTM-sent data. |
| 15:10.16 | durcyn | and those front-ends are more than just Omen |
| 15:10.22 | Hotphoenix | is there a drdamage dev around? |
| 15:10.31 | trh | it seems they didn't reactivated pitchlimit as they told |
| 15:10.47 | durcyn | ~seen gagorian |
| 15:10.49 | purl | gagorian <i=rw3@GMMMCCXLVII.dsl.saunalahti.fi> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 5h 45m 35s ago, saying: 'And I'm off for a few days'. |
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| 15:11.00 | durcyn | there's your answer, Hotphoenix |
| 15:12.05 | CIA-22 | 03saroz * r40866 10sRaidFrames/sRaidFrames.lua: sRaidFrames: Fix Bloodlust. |
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| 15:19.15 | Razuul | So have the aguf freeze been fixed with 2.1.2 and the latest release? |
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| 15:22.10 | ag` | Hey vhaarr... Your favourite bug is fixed for patch 2.2, if you haven't already read it |
| 15:22.43 | vhaarr | ag`: haha |
| 15:22.44 | vhaarr | 2.2 |
| 15:22.46 | vhaarr | retards |
| 15:22.48 | vhaarr | ag`: source? |
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| 15:23.17 | nevcairiel | what bug now? |
| 15:23.23 | vhaarr | "The crash log posted by ckknight is fixed for 2.1.3." |
| 15:23.24 | Health | nevcairiel: You are a bug! |
| 15:23.39 | vhaarr | http://www.blue.cardplace.com/newcache/us/110644023.htm |
| 15:23.39 | Antiarc|Work | ur moms a bug |
| 15:23.43 | Antiarc|Work | Also, good morning |
| 15:24.07 | vhaarr | aaaha |
| 15:24.08 | vhaarr | http://www.blue.cardplace.com/newcache/us/108236491.htm |
| 15:24.29 | nevcairiel | wonder why that one only got into 2.2 |
| 15:24.33 | vhaarr | indeed |
| 15:24.35 | nevcairiel | and the other 2.1.3 |
| 15:24.37 | vhaarr | sucks |
| 15:24.49 | vhaarr | well, granted, the other one is a more serious bug |
| 15:25.05 | vhaarr | since it, you know, crashes and stuff |
| 15:25.50 | nevcairiel | i hope they fixed login lockups |
| 15:26.27 | nevcairiel | a friend of mine has that issue .. he logs in during raid, and it hangs for like 20s, after that works just fine .. only that agUF shows up with like 60mb memory usage |
| 15:26.53 | nevcairiel | wonder if that still happens today |
| 15:27.22 | vhaarr | hope they fixed that in 2.1.2 |
| 15:27.24 | winkiller | anyone knows if that InCOmbatLockDown issue has been resolved? (did anyone besides me have it at all?) |
| 15:27.43 | durcyn | winkiller: the typo or something else? |
| 15:28.03 | durcyn | "that bug" is a seriously non-useful way to identify your problem, by the way. |
| 15:28.28 | Dustwhisper | Antiarc does Omen register data even if it's toggled to not show? |
| 15:28.39 | Josh_Borke | sounds like bad programming to me >.< |
| 15:30.01 | sbu | Dustwhisper: ofc, because threat handles data - omen just displays |
| 15:30.25 | sag_ich_nicht | why the hell can't i access the forums? >< |
| 15:31.07 | CIA-22 | 03helium * r40867 10ClosetGnome/ (ClosetGnome.lua ClosetGnome.toc locales/zhTW.lua): ClosetGnome: updated zhTW localization |
| 15:31.28 | winkiller | durcyn: dunno, just couldn't get into configmode at all |
| 15:31.44 | winkiller | durcyn: nvm, I just can't get sbn logs atm |
| 15:31.50 | winkiller | *SVN dammit |
| 15:32.11 | winkiller | I want cvsspam :/ |
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| 15:33.10 | sag_ich_nicht | ckknight care to explain how you think you fixed the crash problem in pitbull? |
| 15:33.21 | sag_ich_nicht | because there are other addons suffering the same problem D: |
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| 15:34.31 | Saroz | nevcairiel, could be any Ace lib that ag_uf is using though, rosterlib etc. |
| 15:34.36 | trh | sag_ich_nicht: it was something about unparented textures |
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| 15:34.51 | sag_ich_nicht | trh: i got that already from sloukens post D: |
| 15:35.49 | nevcairiel | Saroz: well the memory is directly on agUF, running disembed |
| 15:36.03 | Fin | ckknight: is PitBull on files.wowace in a usable state atm (ie, fixed after the patch and not in the middle of development while working out some icky bugs)? :) |
| 15:36.55 | Fin | actually I guess I didn't need to specifically address ckknight then |
| 15:37.08 | Fin | anyone: is PitBull on files.wowace in a usable state atm (ie, fixed after the patch and not in the middle of development while working out some icky bugs)? :) |
| 15:37.21 | Fin | just wondering whether it's safe to uprade and stuff |
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| 15:38.14 | Josh_Borke | is the one you're using unstable? |
| 15:38.33 | Fin | it was, yes, it was crashing WoW regularly |
| 15:39.16 | Fin | so I stopped using it, during which time I've heard all sorts of interesting things about it undergoing a fairly big change, and I've just read that the bug I stopped upgrading for has been fixed |
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| 15:39.21 | Fin | -using+upgrading |
| 15:39.38 | Josh_Borke | worst you can do is break even |
| 15:39.57 | Fin | I wonder if some background to my question will encourage anyone to feel like answering |
| 15:41.04 | Matrix110 | save your saved variables |
| 15:41.10 | Matrix110 | and update and see yourself |
| 15:41.26 | Fin | why did you bother answering me? |
| 15:41.58 | Josh_Borke | because it's the most direct solution |
| 15:42.03 | Fin | do you think I wouldn't do that if noone told me anything useful? |
| 15:42.11 | Fin | pfft |
| 15:42.12 | Fin | whatever |
| 15:42.53 | ag` | vhaarr, it's the forums |
| 15:42.55 | ag` | vhaarr, US |
| 15:42.59 | ag` | I'll find it |
| 15:43.12 | ag` | ah, you already found it yourself, nm. |
| 15:43.35 | [Ammo] | ag`: how stable is the branches of agUF? and does it have partytargets? |
| 15:43.37 | [Ammo] | L( |
| 15:43.39 | [Ammo] | :) |
| 15:43.46 | ag` | [Ammo], I find it stable myself |
| 15:43.51 | [Ammo] | k |
| 15:43.58 | [Ammo] | does it have party targets? |
| 15:44.10 | ag` | I'll add party targets to it today perhaps, after I've made dinner |
| 15:44.13 | [Ammo] | (proper ones, not the stuff I tried to add to agUF that refused to be disabled and was flakey) |
| 15:44.21 | TecnoBrat | agUF is fine and dandy |
| 15:44.25 | ag` | I set up a few changes that would make it very easy for me to add them |
| 15:44.28 | [Ammo] | nice |
| 15:44.32 | Fin | ooh |
| 15:44.41 | [Ammo] | I'll add the branches to my UI then |
| 15:45.12 | ag` | I won't move branches to trunk until I've found a way around compatability with the old text tags |
| 15:45.31 | CIA-22 | 03helium * r40868 10ClosetGnome_Fishing/ (ClosetGnome_Fishing.toc Locale.lua): ClosetGnome_Fishing: updated zhTW localization |
| 15:45.37 | [Ammo] | ag`: using dogtag for new ones? |
| 15:45.37 | Josh_Borke | what happened to using pitbull as your UF of choice? |
| 15:45.48 | [Ammo] | pitbull is full of bloat |
| 15:45.58 | Razuul | aguf isn't fine and dandy. It still has the nasty freeze->dc upon load when in a raid (or entering a bg) |
| 15:46.25 | ag` | [Ammo], if you have the dogtag library, you can use custom tags |
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| 15:46.35 | [Ammo] | ag`: I don't, so I can't? |
| 15:47.03 | nevcairiel | if i dont intend to run dogtag, will anything from my previous setup change? |
| 15:47.06 | [Ammo] | dogtag has waaaay too much silly stuff in it, like threat and other things I don't need |
| 15:47.11 | ag` | [Ammo], you can install it, or you can wait for me to bring in aguf_watchdog |
| 15:47.16 | [Ammo] | k |
| 15:47.18 | [Ammo] | I'll wait then |
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| 15:48.59 | ag` | people say that the voodoo I did recently in the branch version makes the lockup when logging in not happen |
| 15:49.04 | [Ammo] | hmm |
| 15:49.08 | [Ammo] | that might be a reason to switch |
| 15:49.12 | [Ammo] | but I don't want to install dogtag |
| 15:49.19 | ag` | you don't have to |
| 15:49.24 | [Ammo] | but then I can't use my old tags |
| 15:49.38 | ag` | yeah, which I will fix very soon |
| 15:49.44 | [Ammo] | I need [percenthp] [curhp]/[maxhp] on my target :) |
| 15:50.02 | [Ammo] | which is kinda required when using mobhealth and still being ablle to see when a mob hits 30% etc |
| 15:50.09 | ag` | I'll handle it |
| 15:50.17 | [Ammo] | nice |
| 15:50.36 | ag` | but still the fix that prevents to lockup thing also prevents frames from being shown if you log in while in combat |
| 15:50.47 | ag` | which sucks if you disc in a raid |
| 15:50.51 | kenlyric | hmmm. dr damage isn't showing anything on my buttons anymore. |
| 15:51.05 | CIA-22 | 03hyperactiveChipmunk * r40869 10Ace2/AceHook-2.1/AceHook-2.1.lua: |
| 15:51.05 | CIA-22 | Ace2: AceHook-2.1 |
| 15:51.05 | CIA-22 | - Added :SecureHookScript as a valid mixin function |
| 15:51.21 | Razuul | ag`: A quick tip to get a hold of the branch version, please |
| 15:51.49 | ag` | you have to use a SVN client... I have no idea why the zip script doesn't zip up branches |
| 15:51.52 | durcyn | Razuul: http://svn.wowace.com/wowace/branches/ |
| 15:51.53 | kenlyric | dang, it got turned off... |
| 15:52.41 | Razuul | svn client is no problem, it was just where it was and what the branch is called |
| 15:52.54 | [Ammo] | ag`: I don't care for frames in combat as long as my player, pet, target and ToT frame appear |
| 15:53.00 | [Ammo] | :) |
| 15:53.03 | [Ammo] | as a dps ofcourse |
| 15:53.36 | [Ammo] | the real bug will be fixed in 2.1.3 meh |
| 15:53.40 | ag` | [Ammo], they currently don't but they can without problems, I just gotta do a small change, which I plan to soonish |
| 15:54.28 | [Ammo] | ag`: just send me a privmsg on irc when you have the tags worked out :) |
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| 15:54.55 | rubik | ag`: could you please look into fixing the 'cast bar on player frame cannot be hidden without forcing the default blizzard one to display and disobey being hidden by other addons' issue? if you haven't already? it's uber annoying |
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| 15:55.43 | ag` | rubik, yeah I know about it, and I plan to fix that one too, if you use the branch version aguf doesn't try to control the visibility of the castbar, so that would be what you want I think |
| 15:56.05 | rubik | oh nice.. i'll look into the branch version then, thanks! |
| 15:56.11 | ag` | [Ammo], unfortunately I don't think Slouken is talking about the lockup bug |
| 15:56.32 | ag` | [Ammo], he's talking about the *crashes* (not lockups) that happens to some using latest version of pitbull |
| 15:56.40 | rubik | yeah, the issue with trunk version is.. if you hide it on the player frame, then it forces the blizz one on.. and no other addon can turn the blizz one off (i.e. quartz, etc.) |
| 15:57.01 | ag` | rubik, yep |
| 15:57.37 | CIA-22 | 03roartindon * r40870 10Assessment/ (Assessment.toc Modules/Threat.lua): Assessment: Added a Threat % text that is default hidden |
| 15:57.55 | [Ammo] | the lockup is annoying as hell, but happened only once to me |
| 15:58.01 | TecnoBrat | I don't even know if slouken knows about the lockup one |
| 15:58.08 | TecnoBrat | it happened to me last night again |
| 15:58.34 | [Ammo] | I only use the player pet target targettarget focus focustarget party partypet frames from agUF |
| 15:58.44 | TecnoBrat | there is an okay workaround, disable your unit frames and your raid frames, load in ... enable them from ingame, reloadui |
| 15:58.44 | [Ammo] | and lockup happened |
| 15:59.04 | ag` | [Ammo], people say it's related to the party secure header |
| 15:59.19 | [Ammo] | I also have this idea that agUF still does stuff with the raid headers when not even using the raid frames |
| 15:59.32 | [Ammo] | because it grows in memory a fuckton when in a raid but not in a party |
| 15:59.45 | ag` | they shouldn't if they are hidden |
| 15:59.49 | ag` | that's how the headers work |
| 15:59.59 | TecnoBrat | [Ammo], I've noticed that ... seems that "hidden" just hides them, but they are still created .. or something |
| 16:00.07 | [Ammo] | I'm just saying it's what I noticed in memory use |
| 16:00.10 | [Ammo] | they're hidden alright |
| 16:00.12 | ag` | still the branch version won't even create the raid headers if you disable raid |
| 16:00.13 | TecnoBrat | (I'm talking out my ass, I don't know enough about it) |
| 16:00.19 | ag` | so that should be something you would like |
| 16:00.20 | [Ammo] | but memory of agUF in raids is still higher than in party |
| 16:00.26 | TecnoBrat | ag`, o.O :) |
| 16:00.32 | [Ammo] | but but branches -> no custom tags unless I install dogtag ;) |
| 16:00.57 | ag` | yeah |
| 16:01.02 | ag` | which I wanted to talk about |
| 16:01.10 | Fin | Razuul: there's only one branch |
| 16:01.22 | ag` | do you think I should do aguf, with aguf_watchdog and aguf_dogtag |
| 16:01.31 | ag` | so people can choose themselves |
| 16:01.44 | [Ammo] | I think you should |
| 16:01.44 | ag` | or should I have aguf have watchdog with all tags inside? |
| 16:01.56 | ag` | like it is in trunk |
| 16:01.57 | [Ammo] | well watchdog is what people know frmo the old agUF |
| 16:02.13 | ag` | yeah |
| 16:02.14 | [Ammo] | so adding a separate dogtag module/addon would be a good idea |
| 16:02.20 | [Ammo] | that way old saved vars would still work? |
| 16:02.28 | [Ammo] | since they expect the aguf watchdog tag |
| 16:02.30 | [Ammo] | +S |
| 16:02.59 | ag` | I was wondering if I should have watchdog as a seperate too |
| 16:03.17 | ag` | for people who want to use dogtag but not watchdog, or people who use none of it |
| 16:03.51 | Fin | what does watchdog do? |
| 16:03.56 | [Ammo] | make it separate then |
| 16:03.59 | [Ammo] | it doesn't really matter |
| 16:04.00 | Fin | I seem to remember disabling it |
| 16:04.02 | [Ammo] | offering a choice is good |
| 16:04.05 | Fin | or trying to |
| 16:04.12 | [Ammo] | but people also like to be conservative and stick to the old way |
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| 16:04.17 | [Ammo] | -> watchdog included |
| 16:04.19 | Matrix110 | http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info3953-WatchDog.html |
| 16:04.25 | Fin | ah, thanks |
| 16:04.34 | Fin | ahh, yeah that's right |
| 16:04.50 | ag` | I'll start by creating seperate addons, but we can talk about it again before I merge it |
| 16:05.05 | Fin | ag`: have you removed click2cast as well, then? |
| 16:05.07 | [Ammo] | that's fine |
| 16:05.12 | ag` | gotta inform users in some way too if I go for it |
| 16:05.16 | [Ammo] | yeah |
| 16:05.17 | ag` | Fin, no it still works |
| 16:05.20 | Fin | oh, good |
| 16:05.29 | ag` | anyway gotta go make dinner now, bbl |
| 16:05.32 | Fin | s'just it says "all click casting code has been removed, use clique" :) |
| 16:05.57 | cladhaire | i never got a chance to rewrite WD after 2.0 |
| 16:05.57 | Fin | (on the WatchDog WoWI page) |
| 16:06.00 | cladhaire | it needed too much work |
| 16:06.18 | Fin | wait, WatchDog wasn't part of agUF then... d'oh |
| 16:06.21 | Fin | <-- confused |
| 16:06.28 | cladhaire | no, watchdog was an addon |
| 16:06.59 | Matrix110 | i guess the Tag System of WD was in agUF but ive got no clue:P |
| 16:07.03 | Fin | OK, thanks |
| 16:07.24 | cladhaire | yes, i gave ag a tag implementatino that he coul duse |
| 16:07.28 | Fin | aha |
| 16:07.32 | cladhaire | this is also where DogTag comes from |
| 16:07.52 | Fin | ooh, another bulb as well, didn't even know that was there |
| 16:08.06 | CIA-22 | 03shieldb * r40871 10Incubator/ (Core.lua Incubator.toc embeds.xml): Incubator: Switch to embeds.xml, reset underbog colossi on hydross' death. |
| 16:08.16 | Fin | I don't suppose the name PitBull is related somehow? |
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| 16:08.29 | Gnarfoz | ckknight: I disabled "combat text" on one of my frames, and it disappeared (before there was a list of 'currently disabled texts")... In a desperate attempt to get it back, I created a "combat" text of my own... how do I *remove* that one so I can get the combat text back via enabling combat text for "All units"? |
| 16:08.56 | cladhaire | Fin: no, pitbull has no relatino |
| 16:08.56 | Fin | kk |
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| 16:11.50 | Razuul | hmm the branch version of ag doesn't work for me. ag_UnitClass.lua:446 attempt to index local 'flags' (a nil value) |
| 16:11.59 | Razuul | so no player frames or anything |
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| 16:28.19 | Punkie` | omfg i got a swift netherdrake :I |
| 16:28.41 | brainiacghost | lucky you :S (I WANT ONE :( ) |
| 16:29.21 | Kody- | me too! |
| 16:29.30 | Kody- | I got one that is |
| 16:29.50 | Punkie` | I thought it was like only the top 0.5% |
| 16:30.06 | Kody- | There were around 14,000 2v2 teams in the bloodlust battlegroup |
| 16:30.14 | nevcairiel | i got one too! |
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| 16:30.56 | Punkie` | my 2v2 rating was only 1913 though |
| 16:31.04 | [Ammo] | and you got the armored one? |
| 16:31.36 | Kody- | What battlegroup were you in? |
| 16:31.38 | Saroz | seems like everyone who entered an arena got one |
| 16:31.47 | Kody- | No |
| 16:32.07 | Kody- | I only saw the people on Kilrogg that should have gotten them on them yesterday |
| 16:32.40 | Kody- | They apparently finalized who got them 2 days earlier than most people were expecting though |
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| 16:34.13 | kenlyric | when did most people expect it? |
| 16:34.25 | Funkeh` | hi |
| 16:34.50 | kenlyric | because I got the impression most people were idiots and thought it was set tuesday morning :) |
| 16:34.58 | Silviu- | i had 1950+ rating and did not get it :) |
| 16:35.51 | Kody- | Why wouldn't it be set tuesday morning kenlyric? |
| 16:35.59 | Matrix110 | I got 2 Netherdrakes |
| 16:36.02 | Kody- | Considering that was the *end* of the season |
| 16:36.06 | kenlyric | lol |
| 16:36.08 | Kody- | And nether drakes are... |
| 16:36.10 | Silviu- | Matrix110 giv one ! |
| 16:36.11 | Kody- | End of the season rewards |
| 16:36.17 | Matrix110 | Although not one of my teams actually shoulve gotten one |
| 16:36.24 | kenlyric | right, they're going to do all that, calculations and send out the netherdrakes, all while the servers are down. |
| 16:36.29 | snurre | http://youtube.com/watch?v=iIgZBpWDwQU lol |
| 16:36.46 | Kaelten | I'm crossing my fingers that wau2 can be done today. |
| 16:37.06 | Silviu- | And realease it ?;) |
| 16:37.28 | Kody- | How is that any different from them calculating arena points while the servers are down? Or in their rolling restarts that they perform on tuesday's when there isn't maintenance? |
| 16:37.31 | kenlyric | I figured they either used the previous week's calculation, or did it some time over the weekend, at the latest. |
| 16:37.55 | Matrix110 | no |
| 16:37.57 | Matrix110 | they bugged it |
| 16:37.58 | Matrix110 | totally |
| 16:38.10 | Matrix110 | i bet they typed in 5% instead of .5% :P |
| 16:38.38 | kenlyric | isn't that going to become a pretty worthless reward? |
| 16:38.50 | Matrix110 | Well not really its still the fastest mount:P |
| 16:38.55 | kenlyric | I mean, the top teams will probably stay on the top. |
| 16:38.56 | Matrix110 | not really unique though |
| 16:39.07 | Matrix110 | kenlyric Blizzard needs to change the rewards kinda |
| 16:39.10 | kenlyric | so what's your reward for being top next season? |
| 16:39.10 | Kody- | Yeah they'll have to change something |
| 16:39.13 | Matrix110 | already thought about that aswell |
| 16:39.37 | Kody- | Having 5000 points to spend on black temple quality items four weeks after everyone is fully equipped in BT loot that pve's |
| 16:39.47 | Kody- | That's your reward for being on top of season 2 :P |
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| 16:39.53 | Kaelten | release a beta for it at least |
| 16:40.00 | Kaelten | we're looking at 3-6 weeks in beta probable |
| 16:40.01 | Kaelten | y |
| 16:40.11 | kenlyric | tying arena seasons to patches is going to be a nightmare. |
| 16:40.20 | Kody- | Yeah |
| 16:42.17 | [Liquidor] | know any free php hosting sites? DB not included yeye I know I can google, but if you got any recommendations? It's just for some small page scripting |
| 16:42.43 | ravagernl | omg new coding language to learn! http://www.lolcode.com/ |
| 16:43.20 | kenlyric | ravagernl: there's this other new language you can learn, called COBOL! |
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| 16:45.20 | cncfanatics | hello all :) |
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| 16:46.34 | Saroz | anyone know if the CE mana pots stack in 15? |
| 16:46.46 | zac | they do |
| 16:46.51 | Saroz | zomg sweet |
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| 16:47.00 | trh | uh.. did blizzard something in 2.1.2 to speed up loading times? |
| 16:47.07 | trh | my reloadui was f*ing fast |
| 16:47.13 | Saroz | nop |
| 16:49.26 | Fisker- | http://www.lolcode.com/contributions/lfg |
| 16:49.27 | Fisker- | hahaha |
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| 16:51.49 | NeoTron_ | every time when I raid nowadays I need to disable a large number of random addons to get acceptable performance :-/ |
| 16:51.56 | NeoTron_ | still don't know exactly where the main culprits are |
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| 16:55.44 | Gnarfoz | trh: maybe that's Funkeh` updating all addons to use embeds.xml stuff? (what's that all about, anyway?) |
| 16:56.18 | Funkeh` | it will speedup if you are using WAU |
| 16:56.38 | sag_ich_nicht | NeoTron: stop using KTM. |
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| 16:57.00 | Antiarc|Work | NeoTron: Flip on profiling and turn down your spell detail level |
| 16:57.09 | Antiarc|Work | See what is eating up your per-frame CPU time |
| 16:57.17 | durcyn | Gnarfoz: the idea is to move all lib includes from .toc into a simple .xml with script declarations.. that way you can clobber the embeds.xml file when using standalone libraries, and the game doesn't sit there looking for each and every missing file |
| 16:57.27 | trh | omg.. i have to kill someone to get revenge for this new strange "fatality" sound... it was bugsack |
| 16:57.45 | durcyn | Gnarfoz: there's a massive cost associated with going out to find a file that doesn't exist, then log it to framexml.log |
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| 16:59.07 | durcyn | not to mention it's a pain in the ass editing every single toc file to get rid of missing lib includes |
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| 16:59.28 | NeoTron | sag_ich_nicht: I'm not using ktm |
| 16:59.38 | sag_ich_nicht | NeoTron then you must have some crazy addon. |
| 16:59.45 | NeoTron | and when I do run profiling, Ace is 1, PRAT is 2 or similar |
| 16:59.52 | sag_ich_nicht | mhm |
| 16:59.53 | NeoTron | that's why I asked if prat uses a lot of CPU last night |
| 17:00.00 | shieldb | IIRC the java ace updater comments out all the Libs\ references in toc files if you're running with externals |
| 17:00.10 | sag_ich_nicht | NeoTron may i suggest first you disable prat then see if it still happens? :P |
| 17:00.13 | NeoTron | FuBar_PerformanceFu is really high too |
| 17:00.17 | sag_ich_nicht | (also, if you don't use it, turn profiling off) |
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| 17:00.22 | NeoTron | naturally |
| 17:00.41 | NeoTron | with profilign on in gruul's lair I could barely play |
| 17:00.55 | NeoTron | and yes, prat is one of the things I do disable. |
| 17:01.00 | Antiarc|Work | NeoTron: The best way to find the culprit is to run disembedded libraries |
| 17:01.10 | NeoTron | yeah that crossed my mind |
| 17:01.12 | Antiarc|Work | The first mod to load embedded libs usually gets credited for all their CPU usage |
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| 17:02.54 | kenlyric | poor antagonist |
| 17:03.16 | kenlyric | or, aloft now, I guess |
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| 17:03.32 | durcyn | aguf usually gets blamed |
| 17:03.40 | durcyn | unfairly |
| 17:03.52 | Josh_Borke | what if my biggest mod is Ace2? what do i do then? |
| 17:03.55 | durcyn | but embeds are for slack-jawed yokels anyway. |
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| 17:04.01 | durcyn | Josh_Borke: find the leak. plug it. |
| 17:05.03 | Josh_Borke | how do you fix leaky processors? |
| 17:05.23 | CIA-22 | 03antiarc * r40872 10Omen/Omen.lua: Omen: Fix to unit ID updates for party changes. |
| 17:05.41 | kenlyric | ace2 should be your biggest mod. |
| 17:06.06 | kenlyric | running disembedded, that is. |
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| 17:06.32 | Josh_Borke | hm, i could disembed further? |
| 17:06.32 | sbu | http://img233.imageshack.us/img233/5914/epgpmemnw4.jpg <-- something is really wrong w/ epgp :/ |
| 17:06.44 | Josh_Borke | so each Ace2 module is it's own directory... |
| 17:07.03 | Josh_Borke | sbu: it's Ace2 files are bigger than the Ace2 files? |
| 17:07.06 | Antiarc|Work | What's egpg? |
| 17:07.19 | Josh_Borke | s/bigger/newer/ |
| 17:07.20 | sbu | http://code.google.com/p/epgp/ |
| 17:07.31 | sbu | Josh_Borke: huh? :o |
| 17:07.47 | NeoTron | Antiarc|Work: so we had an issue with Omen on Void Reaver. At least one o the tanks was listed with a whole lot more threat than she had |
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| 17:08.01 | NeoTron | she was on top of the threat list by a wide margain but was in fact not currently tanking.. |
| 17:08.01 | CIA-22 | 03helium * r40873 10Cartographer_Trainers/import.lua: |
| 17:08.01 | CIA-22 | Cartographer_Trainers |
| 17:08.02 | CIA-22 | - updated zhTW localization |
| 17:08.12 | sbu | Antiarc|Work: loot distribution - something like 'dkp' |
| 17:08.13 | Kalman| | NeoTron: Was she running KTM? |
| 17:08.16 | kenlyric | cart_trainers makes me confused. |
| 17:08.23 | NeoTron | KTM was correct apparently |
| 17:08.28 | NeoTron | but she was running both KTM and omen |
| 17:08.31 | kenlyric | but then I realized that not everyone has trainerfu |
| 17:08.37 | Antiarc|Work | mmm. Okay. Thanks. |
| 17:08.59 | NeoTron | just curious if there has been any recent fixes in that area - she might have had an outdated version |
| 17:09.09 | sbu | Antiarc|Work: but way better - just read http://code.google.com/p/epgp/wiki/WhatIsEPGP_v2 :o |
| 17:09.28 | CIA-22 | 03helium * r40874 10ClosetGnome_Mount/ (ClosetGnome_Mount.lua ClosetGnome_Mount.toc): ClosetGnome_Mount: updated zhTW localization |
| 17:09.32 | sbu | <3 it - only the addon seems to be bit strange (mem usage :o) |
| 17:09.41 | Antiarc|Work | I'm not sure, to be honest. If she's out of date, then I don't guarantee anything though :) |
| 17:09.59 | NeoTron | but it is supposed to handle it? |
| 17:10.10 | Antiarc|Work | Yes, it's supposed to. |
| 17:10.25 | NeoTron | it seems though that our main issue in that fight was not threat but ppl avoiding the exploding balls |
| 17:10.34 | NeoTron | threat wise the constant movement made it less of an issue |
| 17:10.40 | Antiarc|Work | Basically, when you get hit with Knock Away, it should reduce your threat by...30% I think, right now, but I think that figure's wrong. |
| 17:10.48 | ravagernl | anyone able to fix kingofthejungle? getting nil errors |
| 17:10.50 | Antiarc|Work | People have reported 25% and 30% to both be wrong. |
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| 17:11.03 | ravagernl | it does not work since 2.1.2 |
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| 17:11.58 | NeoTron | seems like hers wasn't reduced at all |
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| 17:12.04 | NeoTron | considering how much higher she was |
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| 17:14.04 | CIA-22 | 03ominous * r40875 10ClassTimer/ (27 files in 3 dirs): ClassTimer: Back to opt in as i agree with the arguments against it as i forgot about food/pots would be counted |
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| 17:21.55 | sbu | hmm, tidewalker - whats the HP of those murlocs now? |
| 17:23.20 | TecnoBrat | did they get nerfed or something? |
| 17:24.30 | sbu | yep |
| 17:24.47 | sbu | http://www.worldofraids.com/ - "- The Murlocs on Tidewalker seem to have *considerably* less health. " |
| 17:25.47 | Killmore | - The Poor and Common loot thresholds have been removed (presumably for the Vashj exploit). |
| 17:25.51 | Killmore | haha PWNT |
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| 17:26.24 | TecnoBrat | what exploit? |
| 17:26.45 | Killmore | can but the treshold at poor and roll for the tainted token |
| 17:27.16 | kenlyric | ? |
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| 17:27.19 | kenlyric | explain |
| 17:27.26 | CIA-22 | 03ominous * r40876 10ClassTimer/ (ClassTimer.lua ClassTimer.toc): ClassTimer: ops check merges before commit |
| 17:27.27 | kenlyric | draw a diagram! |
| 17:27.34 | Killmore | haha no :P |
| 17:27.42 | Ominous | Fin: ping |
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| 17:27.57 | kenlyric | what's wrong with rolling for it? |
| 17:28.23 | snurre | cause it removes the range/throwing aspect of it |
| 17:28.27 | kenlyric | bah! not found in wowhead. I'm lost! |
| 17:28.27 | Gandharva | Threat 1.0 doesn't show KTM users aggro in Omen |
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| 17:28.50 | Killmore | to switch to phase3 you need to turn off 4 beams, and the only way is to loot an item (tainted core) wtv the name and throw it to someone between 20-40 yards |
| 17:28.57 | TecnoBrat | The Tainted Core loots on Tainted Elementals. |
| 17:28.57 | TecnoBrat | As having it in your bags roots you (can't be dispelled, even with BoFreedom), it must be sent from char to char until it reaches someone near enough from Vashj's pilars to turn if off. |
| 17:29.00 | Killmore | because when you get the tainted core, you cant move at all |
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| 17:29.22 | kenlyric | nifty |
| 17:29.40 | Killmore | and with a /set treshold poor whatever macro, you can make people roll for the tainted core instead of play the throw game |
| 17:29.49 | kenlyric | nice. |
| 17:29.53 | kenlyric | wtb |
| 17:30.00 | Killmore | and since 2.1.2 you cant |
| 17:30.07 | kenlyric | hot potato sounds a lot more fun, though. |
| 17:30.13 | snurre | we used that in naxx, actually.. to make sure we got all words of thawing |
| 17:31.21 | zac | at least they had the foresight to make the marks of illidari green for the annoying change. |
| 17:31.39 | NeoTron | so wtf is blizzard smoking with PvP rings dropping from mobs in SSC? |
| 17:31.48 | Killmore | dont know :( |
| 17:31.51 | NeoTron | if I wanted items with resilience on them for my warlock it'd .. pvp |
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| 17:32.45 | Gandharva | Antiarc|Work: Threat 1.0 doesn't show aggro from KTM users in latest version. Are you aware of this? |
| 17:32.49 | kenlyric | ok, I'd give me left and right nut to have that ring. |
| 17:32.56 | kenlyric | screw the stats. The name alone is awesome. |
| 17:33.00 | Antiarc|Work | Gandharva: No, I hadn't heard anything about that |
| 17:33.07 | [Ammo] | Gandharva: threat1.0 does, your GUI probably doesn't |
| 17:33.07 | Antiarc|Work | Gandharva: You have "Show KTM Data" checked, right? |
| 17:33.22 | Antiarc|Work | (I'm assuming you're using Omen) |
| 17:34.01 | sag_ich_nicht | combatlog plz |
| 17:34.04 | sag_ich_nicht | erm |
| 17:34.05 | sag_ich_nicht | what |
| 17:34.05 | TecnoBrat | NeoTron, from my understanding, its trash drops ... so they are ADDED drops .. why is that bad? |
| 17:34.06 | sag_ich_nicht | oh damn it |
| 17:34.09 | sag_ich_nicht | i wasn't scrolled down |
| 17:34.10 | sag_ich_nicht | D: |
| 17:34.40 | zac | we had the +armor/+sta/+resilience/+dmg ring drop off lurker. annoying. |
| 17:34.41 | NeoTron | TecnoBrat: from my understanding it looks liek boss drops |
| 17:34.48 | Gandharva | Antiarc|Work: yes i checked Show KTM Data |
| 17:34.50 | kenlyric | http://www.worldofraids.com/news/thesealofdanazalar.jpg |
| 17:34.51 | NeoTron | taking up useful PvE drop slots |
| 17:34.57 | kenlyric | completely and utterly awesome. |
| 17:35.09 | Antiarc|Work | Gandharva: Hrm. I might have broken that last night. |
| 17:35.13 | kenlyric | the flavor text DOES NOT LIE |
| 17:35.19 | NeoTron | it's a moonkin pvp ring.. |
| 17:35.32 | snurre | man, turkish pepper + vodka is soo ftw :p |
| 17:35.36 | NeoTron | and in fact it's a fricking awesome moonkin pvp ring |
| 17:35.38 | NeoTron | but.. wtf? |
| 17:35.55 | Silviu- | Gandharva what u mean ? i see all ktm users :/ |
| 17:36.03 | kenlyric | it's for tanking maulgar, for mages, of course. |
| 17:36.13 | NeoTron | ... |
| 17:36.14 | NeoTron | right |
| 17:36.15 | deltron | that ring nice for shaman |
| 17:36.22 | Antiarc|Work | I really need a unit testing suite for Threat and Omen |
| 17:36.25 | NeoTron | nice pvp ring yes |
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| 17:36.30 | kenlyric | you guys are too caught up loot. More buffy references, please. |
| 17:36.33 | Antiarc|Work | Because it's grown to the point that it's hard to test comprehensively :) |
| 17:36.35 | NeoTron | I think that's the point ;-) they aren't bad rigns, just horribly bad for pve |
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| 17:36.41 | deltron | yeah i'd only use it for pvp |
| 17:36.42 | Gandharva | Silviu-: I only see Threat 1.0 users |
| 17:36.42 | ravagernl | nuhuh that ring is for druids |
| 17:36.55 | deltron | i never watched buffy |
| 17:36.56 | NeoTron | ironciall |
| 17:36.58 | Gandharva | But maybe its related to TTK. I don't know |
| 17:37.02 | NeoTron | our tank druid might want that ring |
| 17:37.04 | NeoTron | for bear |
| 17:37.07 | Antiarc|Work | Gandharva: Try disabling TTK and see if that fixes it. |
| 17:37.08 | Saroz | ckknight, ping |
| 17:37.21 | Antiarc|Work | I got http://www.wowhead.com/?item=30644 last night. I'll hang on to them in the hopes that they make weapon skill useful again someday. |
| 17:37.23 | NeoTron | for resist fights possibly, to get resilience up there |
| 17:37.29 | Silviu- | Threat 40817 ThreatToKtm 40678 Omen 40872 all works ok |
| 17:37.46 | Gandharva | Silviu-: not for me -.- |
| 17:37.50 | Gandharva | same versions |
| 17:37.53 | Silviu- | Ok that little error when i summon my pet that Antiarc|Work is too lazy to fix ;p |
| 17:38.11 | Antiarc|Work | Silviu-: It should be fixed if you updated in the last 9 hours or so. |
| 17:38.18 | Silviu- | It`s not |
| 17:38.19 | Silviu- | :P |
| 17:38.19 | Antiarc|Work | If not, then I have work to do yet! |
| 17:38.25 | Antiarc|Work | Bugsack stack please. |
| 17:38.31 | Silviu- | one sec |
| 17:38.45 | Gnarfoz | Antiarc: skill is useful right now |
| 17:39.13 | Gnarfoz | increases your +hit, reduces enemy's defenses etc? |
| 17:39.14 | Antiarc|Work | Gnarfoz: Not nearly enough so for the budget it consumes. |
| 17:39.29 | Antiarc|Work | Plus, I'm combat fists, so no +unarmed means they're useless to me :D |
| 17:39.38 | Gnarfoz | fists suck anyway :< |
| 17:39.39 | Gnarfoz | :p |
| 17:39.39 | Silviu- | [2007/06/20 20:40:13-281-x1]: Threat-1.0\Threat-1.0\ThreatClassModuleCore.lua:946: bad argument #1 to 'pairs' (table expected, got nil) |
| 17:39.48 | Antiarc|Work | Fists are awesome. I hit 42% crit in raids. |
| 17:39.57 | Gnarfoz | enough hit for that? ^^ |
| 17:40.09 | Antiarc|Work | I'm at about 23% hit. Need to pick up a bit more. |
| 17:40.10 | Lyf | Where can I find info on actionbars? Like, what pages are used for what forms etc |
| 17:40.17 | Gnarfoz | nice oO |
| 17:40.18 | Gnarfoz | ^^ |
| 17:40.46 | Gandharva | Antiarc|Work: Now it works. I didn't have the latest version of Omen. 40872 fixed it. |
| 17:40.53 | Antiarc|Work | Aha, ok |
| 17:41.09 | Silviu- | Antiarc|Work u noticed the bugsack ? ;) |
| 17:41.13 | Antiarc|Work | Silviu-: Yes, thanks |
| 17:41.16 | Silviu- | Okay |
| 17:41.18 | Antiarc|Work | 23% hit, 42% crit, and 3200 AP makes me a very happy rogue. :D |
| 17:41.19 | Silviu- | No probl :P |
| 17:42.37 | Silviu- | Antiarc|Work easy to reproduce, be in a grp raid i am atm don`t have a pet out, reloadui and summon pet |
| 17:42.43 | CIA-22 | 03hyperactiveChipmunk * r40878 10BulkMail2Inbox/ (BulkMailFu.lua BulkMailInbox.lua): |
| 17:42.43 | CIA-22 | BulkMail2Inbox: |
| 17:42.43 | CIA-22 | - BMI has had a tragic run-in with Expo, and has emerged thin and emaciated |
| 17:42.43 | CIA-22 | - Thanks to ckknight and Gagorian for their patience and assistance |
| 17:42.44 | Antiarc|Work | Ok, great. Thanks. |
| 17:42.48 | Antiarc|Work | I think I know what it might be. |
| 17:43.12 | Lyf | Antiarc, do you have an armory link? |
| 17:43.16 | rubik | anyone know why www.worldofwarcraft.com (and armory subdomain) been down for the past 3-4 hours? |
| 17:43.26 | Gnarfoz | Lyf: Adrine on Cenarion Circle, US |
| 17:43.50 | Gnarfoz | but US armory looks like it's broken |
| 17:43.59 | rubik | wait.. you guys can get to worldofwarcraft.com? |
| 17:44.08 | Gnarfoz | ... exactly my point. |
| 17:44.14 | deltron | not really |
| 17:44.30 | deltron | yeah it loads |
| 17:44.33 | deltron | but sloooow |
| 17:44.41 | Antiarc|Work | Lyf: Note that those numbers are fully raid buffed ;) |
| 17:44.43 | rubik | weird.. not here |
| 17:44.50 | rubik | now it's up |
| 17:44.56 | Gnarfoz | what do you use to get 3200ap? ^^ |
| 17:45.12 | Antiarc|Work | Fury warrior and enh shaman, mostly :P |
| 17:45.17 | Lyf | Yes of course but it's still really good numbers for a rogue. |
| 17:45.27 | Antiarc|Work | Our 25-mans stack DPS groups like crazy |
| 17:45.30 | Antiarc|Work | Which makes me velly happy. |
| 17:45.34 | Gnarfoz | envy. |
| 17:45.46 | deltron | I was put in a crappy group last night |
| 17:45.49 | Gnarfoz | I don't even have a raid nowadays :< |
| 17:46.09 | trh | i just got to 2087 ap and 28.12% crit selfbuffed... |
| 17:46.13 | trh | ... but i'm a hunter |
| 17:46.31 | Gnarfoz | selfbuffed... there's room for more, raid buffed :p |
| 17:46.39 | Silviu- | Antiarc|Work another strange behaviour with Omen Aggro bar it doesn`t get short numbers kile 50k it displays 50.000.1 or something ;) |
| 17:46.48 | Silviu- | -kile + like |
| 17:47.05 | Antiarc|Work | Silviu-: Ah, right. Thanks. |
| 17:47.09 | trh | Gnarfoz: ya.. but we don't have that many feral druids.. so :/ |
| 17:47.18 | Antiarc|Work | Our only feral druid is a tank |
| 17:47.24 | Antiarc|Work | So we don't get LotP/Imp LotP |
| 17:47.26 | Antiarc|Work | Sadness. |
| 17:47.38 | trh | LotP is super awesome |
| 17:47.44 | Antiarc|Work | We usually run rogue/rogue/fury war/enh shaman/marks hunter |
| 17:47.53 | Gnarfoz | imba :< |
| 17:47.59 | Antiarc|Work | Makes for some absolutely stupid buffs. |
| 17:48.03 | deltron | that's a buttload of buffing just for your rogue ;) |
| 17:48.09 | Antiarc|Work | Throw in double mongoose procs and it gets pretty insane |
| 17:48.13 | trh | AnduinLothar: sounds nice.. would be even nicer without fury war but feral druid instead :) |
| 17:48.18 | trh | Antiarc was meant |
| 17:48.19 | Antiarc|Work | I scored a few 2k+ sinister strikes on Mag on Sunday |
| 17:48.23 | trh | Antiarc|Work: at least for the hunter =) |
| 17:48.32 | hyperChipmunk | stock up a survival hunter with agi |
| 17:48.33 | Antiarc|Work | trh: No way for a rogue. Gimmah my battle shout! |
| 17:48.38 | CIA-22 | 03jerry * r40879 10Talented_Data/ (5 files): Talented_Data: regenerate |
| 17:48.39 | deltron | holy crap |
| 17:48.44 | deltron | 2k+ SS? |
| 17:48.46 | Antiarc|Work | Yup. |
| 17:48.47 | hyperChipmunk | for O_o-type Expose Weakness |
| 17:48.47 | deltron | that's insane |
| 17:48.47 | trh | Antiarc|Work: i wish they'd make battle shout work for ranged |
| 17:48.52 | Gnarfoz | quite possible with that setup |
| 17:48.58 | trh | Antiarc|Work: it's abit unfair as it is |
| 17:49.03 | deltron | I don't raid with my rogue |
| 17:49.04 | Antiarc|Work | I'm using the Arena mainhand fist, which is...309 topend, I believe |
| 17:49.15 | Gnarfoz | season 1 or 2? |
| 17:49.15 | Antiarc|Work | I usually see SS crits in the 1500-1600 range in Kara |
| 17:49.17 | Antiarc|Work | Season 1 |
| 17:49.26 | deltron | one of our rogues just got the 2 new arena fist weaps |
| 17:49.26 | Gnarfoz | sweet |
| 17:49.28 | Antiarc|Work | I put mongoose on them, so upgrading will be expensive :x |
| 17:49.43 | trh | i just did 3k auto shots in eye of the storm with zerker on =) |
| 17:49.44 | trh | that was fun |
| 17:49.47 | trh | err |
| 17:49.48 | trh | not auto shots |
| 17:49.50 | Antiarc|Work | zerker is cheating |
| 17:49.51 | trh | multi shots |
| 17:49.52 | Gnarfoz | I just got myself the s2 offhand (now back at 340 points :\) and put mongoose on it and my aldor exalted sword |
| 17:49.53 | trh | 3 targets a 3k |
| 17:50.01 | Antiarc|Work | Gnarfoz: The fist? |
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| 17:50.07 | Gnarfoz | nah, sword |
| 17:50.11 | Antiarc|Work | You know the s2 offhand fist is 1.8 speed, ri...ohhh, ok. |
| 17:50.14 | Gnarfoz | combat swordspec specced :) |
| 17:50.15 | NeoTron | question - does windfury totem work for feral druids? |
| 17:50.21 | Antiarc|Work | I don't think so |
| 17:50.28 | Antiarc|Work | It's a weapon enchant, and druids don't have weapons to enchant |
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| 17:50.35 | NeoTron | right |
| 17:50.37 | NeoTron | wel |
| 17:50.37 | Gnarfoz | indeed |
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| 17:50.41 | NeoTron | they do. but alas |
| 17:50.58 | Gnarfoz | I was trying out using shiv instead of SS right now |
| 17:50.59 | Antiarc|Work | Fiery Weapon on a cat druid would be way imba |
| 17:51.09 | CIA-22 | 03helium * r40880 10Cartographer_Vendors/import.lua: |
| 17:51.09 | CIA-22 | Cartographer_Vendors |
| 17:51.09 | CIA-22 | updated zhTW localization |
| 17:51.12 | Antiarc|Work | Gnarfoz: Shiv spam sucks because your poison crit rate comes from your int |
| 17:51.24 | Antiarc|Work | So with any crit at all, SS > Shiv |
| 17:51.25 | Gnarfoz | or rather, earlier, but my wow decided to crash from too much alt-tabbing (huh? -.-) |
| 17:51.28 | NeoTron | not more so than on a dual wielding rogue with fast daggers |
| 17:51.30 | Gnarfoz | yeah, I was testing |
| 17:51.35 | sbu | Antiarc|Work: uhm lol? |
| 17:51.36 | rubik | Antiarc|Work: what's your highest crit hit? is 15660 good? one of our roges pulled that (regular attack) the other day in kara... not sure how good that is |
| 17:51.43 | Antiarc|Work | NeoTron: Druids don't have a 24% miss rate :P |
| 17:51.45 | Gnarfoz | just to see how numbers would look, compared to SS |
| 17:51.51 | Gnarfoz | (Farming zaxxis insignia) |
| 17:51.53 | Antiarc|Work | rubik: On Curator, I assume :P |
| 17:51.58 | Gnarfoz | but alas, all data lost in the crash :D |
| 17:52.05 | Antiarc|Work | My highest lifetime crit was in the 18,000 range |
| 17:52.13 | Antiarc|Work | But that was on one of Raz's students |
| 17:52.16 | Antiarc|Work | So that's cheating :P |
| 17:52.20 | Funkeh` | !seen sylvanaar |
| 17:52.27 | Funkeh` | ~seem sylvanaar |
| 17:52.33 | Gnarfoz | Funkeh` fails |
| 17:52.38 | snurre | lol |
| 17:52.40 | Funkeh` | ~seen sylvanaar |
| 17:52.44 | purl | sylvanaar <n=sylvanaa@205-196-182-22.static.cmts1.phonoscope.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 6h 28m 6s ago, saying: 'nn folks - time to get more sweet stuff and then sleep'. |
| 17:52.44 | rubik | Antiarc|Work: negative.. no curator done that evening.. heh |
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| 17:52.50 | deltron | my highest crit heal was like 18K |
| 17:53.13 | Kalman| | rubik: Blue beam tanking on Netherspite? |
| 17:55.12 | CIA-22 | 03hyperactiveChipmunk * r40881 10BulkMail2Inbox/BulkMailInbox.lua: |
| 17:55.12 | CIA-22 | BulkMail2Inbox: |
| 17:55.12 | CIA-22 | - What? You don't want to be spammed with debug messages. Bunch of serene bastards... |
| 17:55.23 | rubik | hmm.. no.. only bosses we downed that night were attumen, moroes, big bad wolf, maiden |
| 17:55.49 | Lyf | If I need to bind something with an addon I need to creat a bindings.xml file in the addon folder? |
| 17:55.55 | rubik | i'll go back and look at the log to see WHAT he hit.. |
| 17:55.58 | Lyf | keybind, I mean. |
| 17:56.46 | NeoTron | seems unlikely to get a 15660 crit without some sort of mob debuff/buff |
| 17:57.02 | rubik | i know one of our locks had a 25806 CoD crit last night but that WAS cheating (Curator) |
| 17:57.05 | Josh_Borke | Lyf: for it to show up in the blizzard menu, yes |
| 17:57.17 | alext | curator loves COD |
| 17:57.27 | deltron | hah yeah |
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| 17:57.43 | alext | i think blizz fucked up amplified COD |
| 17:57.49 | Lyf | and if I don't care if it shows? I need to bind shift, ctrl and alt - metakeys which you can't bind in the blizzard menu. |
| 17:58.01 | Josh_Borke | you can't bind meta keys |
| 17:58.02 | NeoTron | CoD doesn't crit but yeah |
| 17:58.07 | Fin | try MyKeybindings |
| 17:58.09 | Fin | try MyKeybindings2 |
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| 17:58.21 | Fin | +Lyf: |
| 17:58.22 | NeoTron | unfortunately I only ever get one CoD per curator kill nowadays :( |
| 17:58.24 | rubik | NeoTron: sorry, no clue on warlock stuff but was just going by the WWS stuff i logged |
| 17:58.47 | Lyf | Fin: what's that? Google doesn't give me any answer. |
| 17:58.47 | NeoTron | 25-28k is normal, non-amplified on curator and netherspite with 50+ blue beam debuff |
| 17:59.05 | NeoTron | I had a 16.5k or so SB crit on netherspite too |
| 17:59.20 | rubik | NeoTron: gotcha.. cool |
| 17:59.55 | Antiarc|Work | My highest non-cheating crit is probably a 5kish Envenom which happened when I had the Windfury AP buff and the target had some Stormstrike action on it. |
| 18:00.41 | rubik | lol.. i apologize to everyone.. i was reading the WWS stats wrong.. our rogue GOT crit for 15660.. he wasn't the one doing the hitting.. that's embarassing.. sorry again.. lol |
| 18:00.47 | Lyf | Josh_Borke: Bartender and Bongos are using meta keys just fine? |
| 18:00.53 | Antiarc|Work | rubik: Hahaha, oops :D |
| 18:01.01 | rubik | 6/12 21:28:09.235 Phantom Valet crits Lurumok for 15660. |
| 18:01.03 | Josh_Borke | lyf: you can register for ON_METAKEY_CHANGED or something like that |
| 18:01.16 | Antiarc|Work | My highest Kara crits, non-curator, tend to be about 3k eviscerates on Aran |
| 18:01.19 | rubik | hahah... oops indeed |
| 18:01.34 | Antiarc|Work | But that's because Aran has no AC |
| 18:01.40 | CIA-22 | 03adirelle * r40882 10BankList/BankList.lua: BankList: bugfix. |
| 18:02.21 | rubik | nice.. my guild is just starting to work on aran.. we are now clearing to chess on night one and starting on aran in night 2 |
| 18:02.46 | Killmore | reclearing all the thrash between curator and aran ? :( |
| 18:02.49 | trh | rubik: uh.. isn't it better to clear aran on day1 to have no spawn there on day 2? |
| 18:02.51 | Lyf | Josh_Borke: Thank you, but do you know any place I can read on it? Trying to create my first addon :-) Can't seem to find any information on that. |
| 18:03.04 | Kalman| | NeoTron: There is nothing funnier than SWD on Netherspite after blue-beam tanking. |
| 18:03.08 | Codayus | rubik: Bring more warlocks. And yes, Aran is an excellent target for the first raid nite to finish on. |
| 18:03.18 | Codayus | :-) |
| 18:03.21 | rubik | we're not quick enough to get to aran on night one yet unfortunately.. ): |
| 18:03.27 | kenlyric | fuck that shit |
| 18:03.28 | Josh_Borke | lyf: www.wowwiki.com |
| 18:03.32 | kenlyric | chess is reward for killing aran |
| 18:03.35 | Josh_Borke | i don't think i got the event right though |
| 18:03.36 | Antiarc|Work | Agreed with kenlyric! |
| 18:03.51 | kenlyric | night 1 better not fucking ninja chess if they can't kill aran. |
| 18:03.59 | rubik | haha |
| 18:04.01 | Codayus | Should be faster to down Aran than to clear Chess...but that assumes you can down Aran. |
| 18:04.10 | Codayus | Hence - bring more warlocks! |
| 18:04.12 | Lyf | hehe, tried searching the site but no luck |
| 18:04.18 | kenlyric | if you can't kill aran then go kill animal boss or maiden. |
| 18:04.22 | kenlyric | leave chess alone |
| 18:04.28 | rubik | :P |
| 18:04.44 | rubik | we're going to start to skip maiden i guess.. to get to aran on night 1 |
| 18:04.50 | kenlyric | uh yeah. |
| 18:05.11 | rubik | bad raid leading.. i'm gonna yell at our RL.. :P |
| 18:05.19 | kenlyric | maiden you save for when the night sucks and you want to fall asleep and kill something. |
| 18:05.26 | Codayus | rubik: Skipping Attuman saves a fair amount of time. And very fast pulling saves a lot. |
| 18:05.29 | Peoii | I loved the patch that just let us kill the elementals instead of banish/fearing them, it makes aran so much faster. |
| 18:05.38 | kenlyric | atuman isn't very much trash. |
| 18:05.54 | kenlyric | and you get the easy repair guy right there, which saves some time. |
| 18:06.17 | Codayus | kenlyric: True, but for a new guild, counting loot distribution...easily 30 minutes? Depends whether you need the repair vendor of course. |
| 18:06.33 | NimbleRabit | gah what keeps saying "Fatality" in my WoW |
| 18:06.38 | kenlyric | heh |
| 18:06.40 | rubik | Codayus: yeah.. like i said, we just started raiding (guild too casual and took forever to get to raiding).. and currently down attumen ~20 mins into raid and moroes ~40 mins into raid |
| 18:06.45 | kenlyric | your fucking broken ass mods :) |
| 18:06.58 | NimbleRabit | kenlyric: is it bugsack then? |
| 18:07.01 | Cryect | fatality is bugscak |
| 18:07.03 | kenlyric | rubik, if you don't have everyone at honored, don't bother with attumen. |
| 18:07.11 | Cryect | it says it whenever you get an error |
| 18:07.16 | NimbleRabit | god thank you |
| 18:07.17 | NimbleRabit | must turn off |
| 18:07.23 | rubik | we do, yeah.. most ppl are revered now (that rep is ridiculously easy to get) |
| 18:07.52 | kenlyric | because at the very, very least you want opera down on night one, and you want to give yourself enough time for decent work on shade. |
| 18:08.40 | rubik | so, knowing that we're "learning" karazhan and we're taking two nights, night one should be attumen->moroes->opera->aran? |
| 18:08.48 | Josh_Borke | lify: i dunno, i thought there was one |
| 18:08.51 | Josh_Borke | but i can't find it either |
| 18:09.04 | Peoii | rubik: If you have a pally tank, you can save yourselves a TON of time for all of the trash pre-opera. a lot of that can be pulled extra fast by the fact you can aoe down most of those packs. |
| 18:09.08 | trh | rubik: we often do attumen, moroes, maiden, opera, nightbane on day one |
| 18:09.12 | trh | rubik: and the rest on day 2 |
| 18:09.15 | Kalman| | rubik: Yeah. Add in Maiden if you're running fast. |
| 18:09.35 | Codayus | Moroes -> Opera -> Curator -> Aran. If you have time left, hit an optional boss. Keep doing this until you have so much time left you hit Prince instead. |
| 18:09.44 | Codayus | Hrm. |
| 18:09.56 | Codayus | That advice assumes you aren't wiping so much you'll need a repair vendor. |
| 18:10.02 | kenlyric | you mean "hit prince also" |
| 18:10.07 | rubik | Peoii: no pally tank (or healer) unfortunately.. we're stuck me two of us warriors doing the tanking |
| 18:10.11 | Codayus | Er...instead of an optional boss. |
| 18:10.11 | Antiarc|Work | We usually do Attument -> Moroes -> Maiden -> Opera -> Curator -> Nightbane for night 1 |
| 18:10.15 | kenlyric | you never. Ever. Ever. want to clear through shade trash twice :) |
| 18:10.24 | Antiarc|Work | Night 2 is Aran -> Chess -> Prince -> Illhoof -> Netherspite |
| 18:10.28 | kenlyric | it will make you hate your mother for giving birth to you. |
| 18:10.31 | trh | Antiarc|Work: we do nightbane before curator =) |
| 18:10.48 | Peoii | We just do the whole thing in 1 night... :/ But we've been doing it a while. |
| 18:10.53 | rubik | Codayus: that sounds good.. we'll prolly take the extra 20 mins to clear attumen since we do need repairs since we're learning (read: wiping) Aran |
| 18:10.57 | kergoth | hyperChipmunk, |
| 18:10.57 | kergoth | ..\AddOns\BulkMail2Inbox\BulkMailInbox.lua line 192: |
| 18:10.57 | kergoth | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:10.58 | kenlyric | right now we're doing moroes, opera, nightbane, curator, shade on night one. |
| 18:10.59 | Antiarc|Work | Our group has a ton of turnover, unfortunately |
| 18:11.06 | Antiarc|Work | So we haven't been able to drop bosses as people still need things |
| 18:11.16 | [Ammo] | kergoth: update your ace2 |
| 18:11.17 | Antiarc|Work | And that tends to slow us down, too, since those people are less experienced/geared. |
| 18:11.19 | kenlyric | well, they are, i'm not :) |
| 18:11.39 | hyperChipmunk | kergoth: update your AceHook |
| 18:11.47 | NeoTron | if you're starting out there's no reason not to do attumen, moroes, maiden, opera on day one (curator if you have time) |
| 18:11.48 | Codayus | My guild is...pretty casual. <shrug> Lots of turnover from week to week... |
| 18:11.55 | NeoTron | because you get phat lewt that way |
| 18:11.56 | Chompers | new people take ages to gear up |
| 18:11.59 | hyperChipmunk | someone forgot to expose the function to mixins |
| 18:12.01 | *** join/#wowace bindi (i=indigo@d54C68C7E.access.telenet.be) |
| 18:12.07 | Chompers | then they leave to join a further progressed guild |
| 18:12.10 | Chompers | doh |
| 18:12.11 | hyperChipmunk | i updated it about an hour or two ago |
| 18:12.22 | kergoth | ah |
| 18:12.23 | KriLL3 | wish there was something like the wowaceupdater for all other addons =P |
| 18:12.28 | rubik | thanks for your advice, everyone... we'll try for attumen -> moroes -> opera -> curator -> aran on night one for sure... going forward |
| 18:12.38 | kergoth | normally i avoid updating things like ace2 unless absolutely necessary :LP |
| 18:12.41 | kergoth | s/LP/P/ |
| 18:12.54 | hyperChipmunk | well it's necessary! |
| 18:13.10 | kergoth | i got that :P |
| 18:13.18 | NeoTron | KriLL3: like WoW UI Updater you mean? |
| 18:13.19 | [Liquidor] | guys name me an item that requires a skill in order to wear the item. |
| 18:13.25 | hyperChipmunk | please tell me what you think of BMI =) |
| 18:13.27 | NeoTron | http://wuu.vagabonds.info/ |
| 18:13.31 | hyperChipmunk | working on BM now |
| 18:13.38 | KriLL3 | NeoTron: does it work? |
| 18:13.54 | [dRaCo] | [Liquidor]: Black Netherscale Breastplate |
| 18:13.55 | NeoTron | seems to work ok as long as I make it ignore ace addns |
| 18:15.06 | [Liquidor] | THank you Diraco |
| 18:15.43 | NeoTron | it's not nearly as handy though |
| 18:16.05 | NightHawkTheSane | hyperChipmunk: does BM/BMI fully replace my mail frame yet?? :P |
| 18:16.11 | [Liquidor] | [dRaCo]: doesn't exist |
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| 18:16.42 | hyperChipmunk | NightHawkTheSane: if you don't care about letters |
| 18:17.05 | [dRaCo] | [Liquidor]: yeah... called ebon netherscale breastplate, sorry |
| 18:17.09 | NightHawkTheSane | hyperChipmunk: as long as I can delete them, not really. >.> |
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| 18:17.29 | [Liquidor] | [dRaCo]: I used primal mooncloth shoulders |
| 18:17.35 | NightHawkTheSane | hyperChipmunk: but come on, how hard is it to build in letter support? Get to it man! CHOP CHOP! |
| 18:17.52 | hyperChipmunk | it's for managing items, not mail |
| 18:18.38 | [Liquidor] | Any French speakers here? 1=>"(Sacré)", 2=>"(Feu)", 3=>"(Nature)", 4=>"Givre", 5=>"(Ombre)", 6=>"(Arcane) <--- uhm? |
| 18:18.45 | hyperChipmunk | write me a libwcurses and i'm on it =) |
| 18:18.54 | sbu | brrrr [Liquidor] |
| 18:18.59 | sbu | looks evil |
| 18:20.41 | Peoii | hrm, well that's annoying. |
| 18:20.47 | Peoii | My mounts are missing from Autobar :/ |
| 18:20.56 | Fisker- | PT3Bar! |
| 18:21.07 | Saroz | uhm, I disable the Banzai module in Pitbull, but my frames still go red when people have aggro |
| 18:21.14 | Peoii | Fisker-: To much of a Pt3annoyance to setup. |
| 18:21.25 | Peoii | ingame config > * for me, I change things a lot :/ |
| 18:21.37 | snurre | "Microsoft has agreed to make changes to its Windows Vista operating system in response to a complaint by Google that a feature of Vista is anticompetitive" lol, it takes the EU months to make MS do what they want, Google does it in days |
| 18:22.23 | hyperChipmunk | that's because the EU is pretty much insignificant, and google is huge |
| 18:22.45 | NightHawkTheSane | sadly, thats true. |
| 18:23.03 | Fisker- | snurre nope |
| 18:23.07 | Fisker- | Google are a bunch of fags |
| 18:23.11 | Fisker- | So i guess they had a point |
| 18:23.23 | Fisker- | Unlike EU and other companies |
| 18:23.30 | NeoTron | snurre: out of curiosity, which feature? related tosearch? |
| 18:23.44 | snurre | probably some desktop/search stuff |
| 18:23.48 | Fisker- | Probably the search bar in the menu |
| 18:23.49 | Fisker- | ^^ |
| 18:23.49 | Fisker- | :P |
| 18:26.05 | Fisker- | http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/news.html?in_article_id=462614 <-sigh typical retarded sexist faggot laws |
| 18:26.50 | Kebinusan | lol what |
| 18:27.15 | Fisker- | I think i'll propose a law that men will remain unprosecuted for any lawbreaks done while intoxicated |
| 18:27.29 | Fisker- | Cause their judgement isn't good when they're drunk or otherwise intoxicated |
| 18:27.41 | Fisker- | and as such it should be ok for them to do whatever they want! |
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| 18:28.28 | Fisker- | The new law places a heavy responsibility on men to be certain that a woman is sober enough to know what she is doing. <-yeah that's gonna be easy while drunk |
| 18:28.55 | snurre | that's a really dangerous law :( |
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| 18:33.25 | jme | http://tinyurl.com/32k683 <- me fist fighting the last boss in WC running someone through last night |
| 18:34.06 | Ominous | argh something keeps moving WorldStateAlwaysUpFrame |
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| 18:35.01 | kenlyric | Fisker-: I propose the death penalty for anyone that drinks and then kills someone. |
| 18:35.10 | dodgizzla | Ominous: Since we're back to opt-in... What is "Improved Shadow Word: Pain"? Can you rename "Shadow Weaving" to "Shadow Vulnerability" and add "Prayer of Mending"? :D |
| 18:35.19 | Codayus | Um, random question - how many epics do SSC bosses drop? |
| 18:35.35 | Ominous | dodgizzla, i dont know |
| 18:35.37 | Ominous | yes |
| 18:35.44 | Fisker- | 2 |
| 18:36.03 | Fisker- | unless it's a tier 5 boss of course |
| 18:36.08 | dodgizzla | Hm, what do you mean :D You did write it, no? :D |
| 18:36.32 | NeoTron | so clearing trash to VR the first time last night |
| 18:36.37 | Codayus | Hmm. Wow, suck. |
| 18:36.38 | Ominous | dodgizzla, yea but the list of priest buffs was a mates |
| 18:36.41 | Fin | ((new job * using Google Apps * using new email account * adding small bits to an email of questions & requests over the past four hours) + Google Fail) = arg |
| 18:36.47 | NeoTron | how the hell do you handle the packs of birds/handlers in al'ar's room? :) |
| 18:36.50 | dodgizzla | Ominous: Ah I see |
| 18:36.51 | NeoTron | we ended up skipping them |
| 18:37.46 | ZealotOnAStick | NeoTron: worst trash ever. |
| 18:37.55 | NeoTron | so we noticed |
| 18:38.01 | NeoTron | everything else was trivial once figured out |
| 18:38.05 | ZealotOnAStick | couple of offtanks (we use druids) trying to keep the falcon packs busy in one room . . . |
| 18:38.06 | NeoTron | those however were nasty |
| 18:38.22 | ZealotOnAStick | misdirect pull the two handlers into the closer room, burn them down first. |
| 18:38.27 | NeoTron | how do you tank them with their constant knockbacks? |
| 18:38.31 | ZealotOnAStick | then AE the packs, and accept your losses. |
| 18:38.33 | Mudkipz | lol |
| 18:38.36 | Mudkipz | tank them in the corner |
| 18:38.39 | Mudkipz | and spam swipe |
| 18:38.40 | Mudkipz | ??? |
| 18:38.41 | Mudkipz | profit! |
| 18:38.42 | KriLL3 | nevcairiel: there? |
| 18:38.50 | NeoTron | better then to use warriors with thunderclap |
| 18:38.56 | NeoTron | more effective threat generation than swipe |
| 18:38.56 | KriLL3 | I haerd you liek mudkipz. |
| 18:39.06 | Mudkipz | yeah whatever works |
| 18:39.14 | shieldb | NeoTron, the hawks are sheepable, we just sheep as many as possible and then tank the rest |
| 18:40.12 | Mudkipz | wait? you pull both packs? |
| 18:40.13 | cotangent | sheep a few of them |
| 18:40.22 | NeoTron | fear sheep sleep all work |
| 18:40.24 | NeoTron | and traps |
| 18:40.34 | Mudkipz | making it more complicated than it is |
| 18:40.53 | shieldb | yeah, we just CC as many as possible then burn down the handlers and start going through the hawks from there |
| 18:41.05 | cotangent | yeah we misdirect to a tank in the back, sheep a few as they fly back, then kill them one by one |
| 18:41.07 | NeoTron | still we just skipped them using misdirect pulls |
| 18:41.15 | NeoTron | worked better considering oru goal was not to kill al'ar |
| 18:41.23 | Mudkipz | just have your hawk tanks get first pull then have the warriors pull off the humanoids to the opposite side of the room while the druids/warriors build aggro not he hawks until aoe is ready |
| 18:41.44 | Mudkipz | until the hawks* |
| 18:41.56 | Mudkipz | whatever -_- |
| 18:42.47 | NeoTron | I suspect we'll just keep skipping them until we actually want to kill al'ar |
| 18:43.00 | Mudkipz | al'ar is a fun fight |
| 18:43.09 | Mudkipz | and lol @ attunements |
| 18:43.18 | NeoTron | we had like 22 ppl attuned |
| 18:43.33 | NeoTron | so it's kind of a bummer that they lifted it now after our attunement push |
| 18:43.43 | Mudkipz | lootreaver is going to put out even more now |
| 18:43.49 | Awaa | Got an threat error: http://img255.imageshack.us/img255/763/clipboard01xh7.png |
| 18:43.53 | Peoii | I laughed a LOT as I saw a guild literally running back about 40-50 times last night. |
| 18:44.14 | Peoii | I don't think they've even downed Mag, or touched a boss in SSC, yet there they were in TK |
| 18:44.21 | shieldb | I dunno, if a guild can't do mag yet they may be in for a surprise just with the trash to void reaver |
| 18:44.27 | shieldb | Peoii, yeah a friend of mine is in a guild like that |
| 18:44.39 | shieldb | they almost made it to void reaver before respawns caught up to them and they called it there |
| 18:44.43 | Peoii | I just pity their repair bill. |
| 18:44.59 | Mudkipz | lol |
| 18:45.12 | Mudkipz | the whole point of attunement to SSC is showing you can kill mag and gruul |
| 18:45.17 | Peoii | Nah |
| 18:45.20 | shieldb | SSC is Gruul and Nightbane |
| 18:45.21 | Mudkipz | if you can't do that right... then you have no business there |
| 18:45.22 | Mudkipz | ya. |
| 18:45.23 | Peoii | the whole point was to learn certain things. |
| 18:45.30 | Mudkipz | did i say mag? |
| 18:45.31 | shieldb | or was, rather |
| 18:45.40 | Mudkipz | oop NB |
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| 18:46.09 | Peoii | Like how to move, how to watch for falling crap, how to split your tanks approperately, how to coordinate your team so they can do something right when they need to... |
| 18:46.33 | kenlyric | Mudkipz: you didn't need checks like that to keep MC guilds out of naxx, AQ40 or BWL. |
| 18:46.49 | Peoii | Now? It makes me sad. I'm actually watching our forums for our first guild to take down VR that hasn't killed Mag. |
| 18:46.50 | kenlyric | their wipefests kept them out, if they even tried. |
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| 18:47.20 | NightHawkTheSane | Who the hell -cares- if you can down Void reaver but not mag? |
| 18:47.28 | Mudkipz | kenlyric, it's kind of obvious mc guilds shouldn't be in Naxx.. |
| 18:47.48 | kenlyric | exactly. |
| 18:48.07 | Mudkipz | and now that the instance trash is nurfed to hell |
| 18:48.10 | shieldb | I think what I was saying yesterday turned out to be pretty true: it isn't like the attunement is really what's stopping people from downing stuff in TK or SSC - it just gives people who aren't ready yet a different place to wipe in where they can bring their whole raid instead of 10 or 5 people :P |
| 18:48.13 | kenlyric | a guild in quest greens shouldn't be in Hyjal. |
| 18:48.14 | NightHawkTheSane | People who dislike removing attunments are basically idiots. |
| 18:48.35 | Mudkipz | nah |
| 18:48.41 | Codayus | There was a fair amount of overlap in classic wow. Guilds killed Scaram that were stuck on Chromagus. Several guilds skipped AQ40 entirely... |
| 18:48.48 | Mudkipz | people are just pissed off they worked hard for them and now the noobs can just walk in |
| 18:48.49 | kenlyric | I dislike the fact that 25 man raiding is filtered through 5 and 10 man groups. |
| 18:48.54 | Mudkipz | granted they will wipe |
| 18:48.58 | kenlyric | *that* was the dumbass idea. |
| 18:48.58 | NightHawkTheSane | Mudkipz: and those people are morons. |
| 18:49.14 | Peoii | NightHawkTheSane: Not really, it's time spent, it's Lore for any other reason. If you want to play the game, play the game as it was intended, don't wait for the rules to change, then skip to the end. |
| 18:49.25 | kenlyric | attunements that required mag and gruul always made sense to me. |
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| 18:49.36 | kenlyric | no different than requiring onyxia to progress in BWL. |
| 18:49.52 | Codayus | A friend of mine was in a very hardcore rading guild that actually disbanded over...not being able to stage people through Nightbane to get people SSC keyed. Yeah... Oo |
| 18:49.53 | NightHawkTheSane | Peoii: it's a mmog. The rules will -always- change. Should people go back and do all of MC/BWL/AQ/Naxx to "play the game as intended"? |
| 18:49.55 | Peoii | It was, for lack of a better term, a "gear check" |
| 18:49.58 | kenlyric | but a 25 man raid does NOT break easily into 5 5-man raids. |
| 18:50.12 | Peoii | NightHawkTheSane: They still do on my server, not yours? ;) |
| 18:50.17 | kenlyric | *groups |
| 18:50.24 | NightHawkTheSane | Peoii: i mean as a requirement to progress into kara and bc raids. |
| 18:50.29 | Peoii | There's not a single week that has gone by that I havn't seen an MC/BWL/etc run going. |
| 18:50.47 | Peoii | Man, the original attunement had us going back there and I was STOKED for that. |
| 18:50.47 | shieldb | BWL is heaps of cash if you steamroll it, which isn't tough |
| 18:50.49 | Mudkipz | NightHawkTheSane, I think you're kinda streching it there |
| 18:50.49 | Codayus | But yes, the heroics were always bad, if for no other reason than the proper ratio of tanks to DPS in a 25 man raid is NOT the same as in a 5 man raid...for example. |
| 18:50.52 | NightHawkTheSane | Peoii: The point is to let -as many people as possible- experience the content that they are paying for. |
| 18:50.57 | kenlyric | remember how pissed off people were when guilds skipped c'thun to go into Naxx. |
| 18:50.58 | Mudkipz | 60 dungeons does not = burning crusade |
| 18:51.22 | shieldb | MC I would wager is for the fun of it, or maybe to get some hunters their thunderfury :P |
| 18:51.31 | Peoii | NightHawkTheSane: The point is also to have -fun-. If you're in there wiping, because one person isn't pulling their weight, you're not exactly going to be having fun. |
| 18:51.33 | kenlyric | karazhan is an awesome instance, but a goddamn awful idea. |
| 18:51.38 | Mudkipz | People don't pay to see content |
| 18:51.42 | Mudkipz | we pay to play the game |
| 18:51.46 | Peoii | NightHawkTheSane: This is after all a -game-. |
| 18:51.50 | NightHawkTheSane | Peoii: Well, that's another matter entirely, but that has -nothing- to do with attunements |
| 18:51.56 | Peoii | Oh yes, yes it does |
| 18:52.01 | NightHawkTheSane | no, it doesn't |
| 18:52.05 | Mudkipz | whatever you do inside the game is up to you and if you don't have the skills to be in a raiding guild then too bad |
| 18:52.14 | kenlyric | you can be dragged through attunments and still not know how to play. |
| 18:52.15 | NightHawkTheSane | You can have extremely competent people who are not keyed, and extremely incompetent people who managed to get keyed. |
| 18:52.15 | Peoii | If you can't see that, then I would call you the moron sir. Since you so blatently refered to my kind as one :P |
| 18:52.20 | kenlyric | anyone who went to MC could see that. |
| 18:52.32 | NightHawkTheSane | kenlyric: precisely |
| 18:52.32 | Thorgard | They should put teleporters at the beginning of all the instances that'll take you directly to the bosses.. alternatively just remove all the trash mobs. |
| 18:52.44 | Codayus | ... |
| 18:53.00 | KriLL3 | nevcairiel: there? |
| 18:53.01 | Peoii | NightHawkTheSane: If they are extremely competant, then why not do the trials? It's easy for a competant group. And requires what? 1 night? |
| 18:53.20 | kenlyric | I like trash that gives you lessons on how to kill the boss. Is there any kind of trash like that which exists? |
| 18:53.24 | Mudkipz | Thorgard, I suggest a 50% trash clear on fully cleared instances |
| 18:53.42 | Antiarc|Work | Peoii: Class imbalance is a huge concern. |
| 18:53.44 | Codayus | Peoii: Class mix alone makes the heroics a bad idea for an attunement step... |
| 18:53.50 | Antiarc|Work | In my guild, we're heavy on DPS and short on tanks. |
| 18:53.51 | NightHawkTheSane | Peoii: what if they're an alt, and need to fill in for a night? What if the guild has done the trials seven thousand times already and doesn't want to do it AGAIN because someone rerolled to help the guild? There's all kinds of reasons why the attunements were an uneccessary block. |
| 18:54.01 | Antiarc|Work | No tank wants to go run a herioc 14 times in a row to get all the DPS attuned. |
| 18:54.03 | NightHawkTheSane | And yeah, not to mention class balance. |
| 18:54.06 | nevcairiel | KriLL3: whatsup? |
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| 18:54.26 | shieldb | kenlyric, I think a lot of the trash these days has abilities that you can learn something from, but I don't know that any of it mirrors bosses that are nearby |
| 18:54.37 | shieldb | err, learn something from and apply to boss encounters |
| 18:54.38 | NightHawkTheSane | No one's stopping you from evaluating the skill and competence of someone -before- taking them to SSC/TK, merely that you don't have to jump through arbitrary hoops just so they can zone in. |
| 18:54.50 | Peoii | Antiarc|Work: I guess I come from a different makeup. We've always got people willing and ready to help. Hell, I've done heroic SH for peoples trials about.... 20 times? Give or take. |
| 18:54.52 | Codayus | Recruiting was also an issue...on some servers in particular, the pool of TK flagged people didn't really exist. |
| 18:55.03 | shieldb | other then maybe the solarian wing trash being heavy on AOE to sort of get you ready for having to have a bunch of AOE for her |
| 18:55.10 | Antiarc|Work | Peoii: It'll depend on the group, of course, but given the nature of heroics, it's very easy to run into bottlnecks. |
| 18:55.23 | kenlyric | Peoii: oh, you come from the land of make-believe, where perfection abounds :) |
| 18:55.31 | Peoii | lol |
| 18:55.34 | kenlyric | 95% of us have to wow in the real world :) |
| 18:55.35 | Peoii | not really ;) |
| 18:55.55 | kenlyric | and doing shit just to get people keyed is damned annoying. |
| 18:55.57 | Kalman| | Peoii: I had problems getting groups for regular runs to get rep on my reroll, much less getting heroics together. |
| 18:56.01 | kenlyric | it's been annoying since onyxia. |
| 18:56.11 | Kalman| | It's not like I couldn't have bullied people into heroics... but they're my friends, that sucks to have to do. |
| 18:56.20 | Codayus | Even *IF* your guild is full of altruistic people who actively LOVE to run a heroic for the 80th time...you obviosuly have to recognize the game is full of people who might get tired of heroic shattered halls after the first few dozen runs... |
| 18:56.53 | kenlyric | Codayus: I got tired of shattered halls about 3/4 of the way to revered, screw ever doing it on heroic. |
| 18:57.03 | CIA-22 | 03kemayo * r40883 10FuBar_QuestsFu/Blizz/Blizz.lua: |
| 18:57.03 | CIA-22 | FuBar_QuestsFu: |
| 18:57.03 | CIA-22 | - Add some of that ol' new/del magic in Blizz.lua. |
| 18:57.08 | kenlyric | screw doing any five man instance more than 5 times. |
| 18:57.10 | NightHawkTheSane | What really gets me is that this change harms absolutely no one, and the only people who seem to be up in arms are self-righteous raiders who think that everyone has to pass every labyrinthine test that they had to. >< |
| 18:57.11 | Codayus | ...and since the game is full of people like that, it was a msiguided mechanic. And it was ESPECIALLY bad on tanks. |
| 18:57.14 | shieldb | keying yourself can be kind of fun (I enjoyed getting my trials, and I did it before it got nerfed in 2.1), but working on keying your roster so you can move on as a guild is more of an admin headache then anything |
| 18:57.21 | Gandharva | Adirelle: KLHTM Version is not shown in Tooltip |
| 18:57.22 | Mudkipz | hahaha I haven't been inside a heroic in sooo long |
| 18:57.28 | Codayus | (I find the people who think the trials were fine are mostly DPS...unsurprisngly) |
| 18:57.41 | Gandharva | Adirelle: only ??.?? |
| 18:57.42 | kenlyric | NightHawkTheSane: it's the same when they nerf bosses. It pisses off the people who did it before. |
| 18:57.48 | Peoii | NightHawkTheSane: What really gets me about this whole thing? People who think that all raiders are arrogant self righteous cockblocks. |
| 18:57.59 | Peoii | Because we want people to experience the game as we did... |
| 18:58.02 | NightHawkTheSane | Peoii: Point where I ever said all raiders. |
| 18:58.24 | kenlyric | I personally liked the karazhan keying because it gave me useful rep that i needed anyway. |
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| 18:58.25 | Adirelle | Gandharva: that's because we didn't see versionresponse messages |
| 18:58.28 | Peoii | I dunno, I'm up in arms about it, and I'm not exactly a "self-rightous" raider ;) |
| 18:58.31 | durcyn | Codayus: i'm fine with the trials being in or out - just found them spectacularly useful to determining which people suck. |
| 18:58.42 | Adirelle | Gandharva: ask a group officier to make a version query |
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| 18:58.47 | Mudkipz | Because all raiders just love to kill hydross pre-patch then having every follower guild kill them the next reset |
| 18:58.52 | NightHawkTheSane | Peoii: well, give that what you -just- said matches -precisely- what i defined as self-righeous.. i'm going to have to disagree ;) |
| 18:58.53 | Codayus | I will say, however, that I thought leaving the Gruul and Mag steps of the attunements would have made sense. |
| 18:58.54 | kenlyric | but keying into TK just felt completely unnatural and forced. |
| 18:59.10 | Kalman| | Mudkipz: Then they need to get over it. |
| 18:59.13 | Codayus | It was the 5/10 man groups to key to a 25 man instance that really made for admin headaches. |
| 18:59.38 | kenlyric | Mudkipz: it's extremely dumb to complain about stuff like that. |
| 18:59.49 | kenlyric | Bosses will be continuously nerfed as time goes on. Since the beginning of WoW |
| 18:59.53 | Peoii | And I was actually rather honest back there when I said I was looking for the post regarding our first VR kill from a guild who hasn't killed Mag. I really would like to see if it can be done or will be done. |
| 19:00.03 | Gandharva | Adirelle: Ah I see. Thanks for clarificatin. |
| 19:00.05 | Kalman| | Peoii: I'm sure it can be done, but who cares? |
| 19:00.06 | Codayus | And when they arent't nerfed, gear and abilities will be buffed... |
| 19:00.13 | Peoii | I do? For sake of curiosity? |
| 19:00.31 | NightHawkTheSane | Curiousity is fine. But if you're going to whine about how it's unfair, that's absurd, silly, and immature :P |
| 19:00.31 | Peoii | It's more a "wow, good game to them" thing, than a spiteful pondering. |
| 19:00.34 | Codayus | Peoii: I'd be kinda surrpised if it hasn't already been done. I can't imagine caring, personally... |
| 19:00.35 | Kalman| | Oh, well, that's different. Sake of curiosity is one thing. You sounded like it was necessarily a bad thing. |
| 19:00.40 | kenlyric | I mean, who gives a crap how many people do it after you, as long as you do it first? |
| 19:00.55 | Kalman| | Who cares if you do it first, as long as you do it, for that matter? :p |
| 19:01.03 | Mudkipz | dun dun dun |
| 19:01.32 | kenlyric | Kalman|: well, i'm trying to rationalize like people who think it's all about staying ahead of other people. |
| 19:01.39 | kenlyric | the people who bitched when guilds skipped c'thun. |
| 19:01.58 | Codayus | Kalman|: Speaking of which, my guild never got to Naxx pre-TBC, which is something we've always regretted. I tried to organize a semi-pug naxx raid last weekend, but as it turns out, 20 and 4 decursers on Noth = lol. :-) |
| 19:02.12 | Kalman| | Codayus: I wish Naxx had had more time. Was such a good zone. :/ |
| 19:02.14 | NightHawkTheSane | I hate reducing the game to just a competition to progress, thats not really fun. |
| 19:02.22 | Mudkipz | Kalman|, same here |
| 19:02.23 | Peoii | You don't know me, so I'll just say this once... I am probably the least spiteful person you'll ever meet. I'm the drunk irishman who laughs on vent as we accidently agro Al'ar and watch our entire raid die. I really do want to see people succeed, however they might. I just also want my hours of work back getting my attunements done if they're going to change the rules (not that I won't do them again on the rest of my alts :P) |
| 19:02.30 | Mudkipz | I wanted BC delayed just to finish off Naxx |
| 19:02.34 | kenlyric | yeah, sucks that such an awesome epic for 4 classes saw so little love. |
| 19:02.37 | Codayus | Kalman|: So I've heard. Hell, just zoning in and seeing the trash for the first time was pretty cool. |
| 19:03.05 | KriLL3 | Annoying that after testing and tweaking addons for a couple of days half your addons directory is addons you've disabled and don't plan to use again... |
| 19:03.06 | kenlyric | Peoii: that's just completely insane though. YOu can't have both. |
| 19:03.15 | KriLL3 | should be a remove option in the addons window in wow |
| 19:03.26 | kenlyric | Naxx should have been the first 25 man instance in TBC. |
| 19:03.29 | Fisker- | I HAS A VAR |
| 19:03.44 | Codayus | When our MT discovered the spider wing trash can pull you across the room, he shrieked on vent like a little girl. That was totally worth the price of attunement. |
| 19:04.06 | Codayus | (apparently, he was a little startled by this) |
| 19:04.09 | Peoii | kenlyric: I asked for 2 of something that conflicted? I'm confused... |
| 19:04.12 | kenlyric | killing mr bigglesworth is worth the price of attunement. |
| 19:04.16 | Cryect | Codayus: Should be fine with 4 decursers on Noth just have to make sure its the same 15 always getting cursed and then assign who they are decursing |
| 19:04.28 | kenlyric | Peoii: to get the time back you wasted getting attuned, and to not have to get attuned on your alts. |
| 19:04.57 | Peoii | You misread. |
| 19:05.06 | Codayus | Cryect: I believe that Noth curses a maximum of 20 people. We theorycrafted it, and decided we didn't physically have time to cure the raid due to the GCD. |
| 19:05.07 | Peoii | I said I was GOING to do the trials on my alts... |
| 19:05.22 | Peoii | "not that I won't do them" <- double negative. |
| 19:05.23 | Kalman| | Peoii: Rules change. Life sucks. Oh well. You did the attunements; congrats. I'm sure the guilds who wiped repeatedly on untauntable drakes would love their time and cash back, but they know it wasn't going to happen. |
| 19:05.25 | Codayus | (I'm not 100% sure on the numbers now though.) |
| 19:06.01 | kenlyric | it's not like you got NOTHING out of being attuned. |
| 19:06.51 | kenlyric | I feel worse for the people who were blasting through attunment and hit 25 people on Monday :) |
| 19:08.30 | Mudkipz | remember when the honor system got changed and all the GM's and HWL's got pissed off |
| 19:09.07 | Mudkipz | every scrub rogue on the server were sporting HWL weapons hahaha |
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| 19:09.12 | kenlyric | Mudkipz: yes. i remember this happening many, many, many times in wow history :) |
| 19:10.11 | mitch1 | hrmp. wowwiki is down |
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| 19:10.28 | kenlyric | you know what we need? some non-pvp titles. |
| 19:10.39 | Punkie` | like Scarab Lord? :P |
| 19:10.45 | kenlyric | yeah. |
| 19:10.52 | Peoii | wtb Rep Whore. |
| 19:10.56 | durcyn | ^^ |
| 19:11.00 | kenlyric | Spirit whore |
| 19:11.07 | Mudkipz | wtb tentacle monster |
| 19:11.13 | durcyn | "i farmed exalted with hydraxian waterlords for -what-?" |
| 19:11.25 | kenlyric | durcyn: you farmed it? |
| 19:11.29 | kenlyric | like, on elementals? |
| 19:11.34 | Peoii | I'm working on exalted #22 and I'm an engineer.. gg rep rewards? |
| 19:11.48 | CIA-22 | 03antiarc * r40884 10Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0/ (5 files in 3 dirs): (log message trimmed) |
| 19:11.48 | CIA-22 | Threat-1.0: Drycode - please test and comment. |
| 19:11.48 | CIA-22 | - Added value override mechanism. Raid Officers can /script AceLibrary("Threat-1.0"):SetNPCModuleValue("VoidReaverKnockbackMultiplier", 0.77), for example. |
| 19:11.48 | CIA-22 | - Added module activation synchronization. One person activating a boss module should signal for the rest of the group to do the same. |
| 19:11.49 | kenlyric | Peoii: oh, now you make a lot more sense. You're insane. |
| 19:11.50 | CIA-22 | - Change Void Reaver to use raid officer-set multiplier if available; set default multiplier at 0.75 (25% reduction) |
| 19:11.51 | Mudkipz | crashin thrashin robots |
| 19:11.53 | CIA-22 | - Changed Debug messages to go to ChatFrame5 |
| 19:11.54 | durcyn | kenlyric: no, you can't get past 0/1000 exalted without killing bosses |
| 19:11.55 | CIA-22 | - Cleaned up some garbage creation on pet summon |
| 19:12.06 | Mudkipz | we bet gold on those duels in on downtime lol |
| 19:12.12 | Peoii | lol |
| 19:12.13 | durcyn | kenlyric: and the naga bosses don't even count |
| 19:12.13 | kenlyric | durcyn: ok, then how did you farm it? |
| 19:12.24 | Peoii | I'm not insane... I'm special. |
| 19:12.31 | durcyn | kenlyric: perhaps our definitions of 'farm' differ. there were 40 of us. |
| 19:12.35 | Peoii | And I'm a gnome tabooot... none of you silly human cheating. |
| 19:12.47 | kenlyric | durcyn: so you were there for another reason. |
| 19:12.54 | CIA-22 | 03thexod * r40885 10ItemValue/Class_StatSet.lua: |
| 19:12.54 | CIA-22 | ItemValue: |
| 19:12.55 | CIA-22 | - Improved StatSet settings display |
| 19:13.09 | kenlyric | you were farming for loot. The rep was just extra. |
| 19:13.30 | Antiarc|Work | We used to tell people that you got a special water elemental mount when you hit exalted |
| 19:13.39 | kenlyric | getting revered was the exact opposite, farming for rep and the loot was just extra. |
| 19:13.52 | kenlyric | errr, revered for heroic keys. |
| 19:13.54 | Peoii | I got my first piece of T2 in MC :/ |
| 19:14.04 | Peoii | *sniff* those were the days... |
| 19:14.09 | kenlyric | uh most of us did. |
| 19:14.18 | Peoii | no, like not off rag. |
| 19:14.34 | kenlyric | o.O |
| 19:14.39 | Peoii | I'm not talking pants, I'm talking gloves ;) |
| 19:14.48 | Mudkipz | I never won T2 legs |
| 19:14.49 | Antiarc|Work | oldschool. |
| 19:14.51 | durcyn | those were the days. |
| 19:14.51 | Mudkipz | screw you guys |
| 19:14.53 | Antiarc|Work | I never got my T1 belt. |
| 19:14.57 | Antiarc|Work | Screw BOE drops. |
| 19:15.08 | kenlyric | I got my t2 pants the week I swore i would never go back to MC. |
| 19:15.09 | Antiarc|Work | I ran MC for like 67 years. |
| 19:15.10 | CIA-22 | 03thekarn * r40886 10/branches/SanityItemCache/SanityItemCache.lua: SanityItemCache: Small adjustment to a regex. now matches bag:1 instead of needing bag:"1" etc |
| 19:15.12 | durcyn | back when you could pop a doomguard using ritual and cripple the bosses, mmm. |
| 19:15.15 | AnduinLothar | never got my t1 pants, already had t2 |
| 19:15.16 | Peoii | pre-BWL, MC dropped T2 off bosses on like a 1% scale. It was kinda retarded... but it happened. |
| 19:15.29 | kenlyric | while I was clubbing my guild over the head that it was fucking dumb to do all of MC just to get a few people their t2 pants. |
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| 19:15.44 | kenlyric | goddamn rogues. |
| 19:15.53 | Antiarc|Work | Bloodfang are really good :/ |
| 19:15.57 | Antiarc|Work | Were anyway |
| 19:16.08 | kenlyric | but not worth the time you spent doing Rag. |
| 19:16.20 | durcyn | i've still got 8/8 t2 in the bank, just can't bring myself to shard it. |
| 19:16.24 | kenlyric | and you know what? if they never fucking dropped in five months, chances are the next two months weren't going to be any better. |
| 19:16.27 | durcyn | and it vendors for something shyte like 30 silver. |
| 19:16.28 | Peoii | We still link the Nightslayer belt over raid chat sometimes on a boss kill, just to mock the rogues... I think we saw 2? total? |
| 19:16.33 | TheKarn | Antiarc, i might change the color: clause to support "orange|purple|blue|green|white|grey" |
| 19:16.36 | kenlyric | at least it shards. |
| 19:16.49 | TheKarn | because color:epic doesnt make sense in my mind |
| 19:17.05 | kenlyric | it's awesome how all gear t2.5+ can only be destroyed. |
| 19:17.16 | Peoii | indeed ;) |
| 19:17.21 | Peoii | Same with my ZG set :/ |
| 19:17.29 | durcyn | you used to be able to DE them |
| 19:17.45 | durcyn | so the day before the patch came out that changed it, i sharded mine, then got free replacements and nexus crystals :o |
| 19:17.56 | Peoii | I've got 5/5 ZG , 8/8 T2, and 5/5 T2.5 sitting in the bank :/ I can't bring myself to destroy most of em |
| 19:18.04 | kenlyric | they weren't epic before that patch. |
| 19:18.16 | durcyn | kenlyric: oh? well, LBS then. sigh. |
| 19:18.25 | Codayus | Parts were... |
| 19:18.27 | kenlyric | I remember that patch well. |
| 19:18.31 | Codayus | The exalted bit, right? |
| 19:18.40 | Silviu- | Antiarc|Work error still there ;p |
| 19:18.41 | Codayus | Priest shoulders, warrior BP, um...I forget. |
| 19:18.42 | kenlyric | I passed on t2 shoulders to keep my zg ones. |
| 19:18.42 | durcyn | Codayus: may have been. and the exalted neckpiece. |
| 19:18.59 | kenlyric | the exalted armor piece and the neck piece were epic. |
| 19:19.04 | Codayus | kenlyric: As a priest right? Same. ZG shoulders + 2 piece bonus was a lot better than T2 I think. |
| 19:19.09 | kenlyric | yeah. |
| 19:19.13 | Antiarc|Work | Silviu-: Haha, I got distracted |
| 19:19.16 | durcyn | i still want to know who came up with "kezan's unstoppable taint" for the warlock one. |
| 19:19.17 | kenlyric | plus, t2 priest = goddamn that's ugly. |
| 19:19.18 | Silviu- | :P |
| 19:19.30 | Codayus | Trans had some messed up itemization. Shoulders were weak, and the gloves had CRIT. |
| 19:19.32 | kenlyric | like having blade's edge on your shoulders |
| 19:19.35 | Silviu- | Antiarc|Work different number, [2007/06/20 22:16:07-282-x1]: Threat-1.0\Threat-1.0\ThreatClassModuleCore.lua:955: bad argument #1 to 'pairs' (table expected, got nil) |
| 19:19.36 | Peoii | There are still a lot of places where your ZG trinket is awesome for some classes. |
| 19:19.43 | Antiarc|Work | Heh, yeah |
| 19:19.44 | durcyn | kenlyric: cloth hats before t2 artwork patch were total and complete turban win. |
| 19:19.45 | Peoii | even at 70 ;) |
| 19:19.49 | kenlyric | Codayus: but seriously, who cared beyond the 3 piece bonus? |
| 19:19.56 | Peoii | Like that god forsaken Rogue one |
| 19:19.59 | Peoii | ugh... |
| 19:20.02 | ckknight | hey all |
| 19:20.03 | kenlyric | priest hats do kinda suck, besides t2. |
| 19:20.07 | Codayus | Well, the 5 piece was kinda nice...back when you could SURVIVE a hit. |
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| 19:20.17 | kenlyric | t5 and t6 are just kinda awful holy priest hats. |
| 19:20.18 | ckknight | Saroz: pong |
| 19:20.22 | Codayus | But it was at best a fun toy...3 piece was acutally GOOD |
| 19:20.29 | Mudkipz | reactive fade was awesome |
| 19:20.42 | kenlyric | reactive fade on fankriss was epic. |
| 19:20.42 | Peoii | t2 priest had the 2nd best set bonuses ever. |
| 19:20.54 | ckknight | Gnarfoz: go into the combat text menu and disable it? I'll fix it for other people... |
| 19:20.56 | Codayus | Fankriss...and...not a *lot* else. |
| 19:21.03 | kenlyric | razorgore :) |
| 19:21.08 | Peoii | T2 mage >>> * though.... extra range on our AOE, and mmmmmmmmmmm, pom on a set bonus... |
| 19:21.21 | ckknight | Fin: yea, upgrade |
| 19:21.24 | Codayus | Also, is it me, or do priest sets have the WORST bonuses in TBC now? From DS3 on up, I can think of...one good one? |
| 19:21.34 | kenlyric | Codayus: 1? where? |
| 19:21.35 | CIA-22 | 03antiarc * r40887 10Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0/ThreatClassModuleCore.lua: Threat-1.0: Don't try to roll back transactions after the module's been disabled. |
| 19:21.37 | Gnarfoz | ckknight: disabling it doesn't remove it |
| 19:21.41 | kenlyric | shadow has fine bonuses |
| 19:21.46 | Codayus | Pft, shadow. |
| 19:21.56 | kenlyric | but I want to know where this good bonus is. |
| 19:22.00 | kenlyric | 3 piece mooncloth :) |
| 19:22.05 | ckknight | Gnarfoz: odd, well, I'll check it out. |
| 19:22.15 | Gnarfoz | ckknight: it stays there and blocks the creation of the 'real' combat text thing... maybe I'll just delete it in the SVs, if it's not possible to overwrite it anymore, now |
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| 19:22.27 | durcyn | mooncloth pfeh. running around with 6k HP asking to die. |
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| 19:22.39 | Codayus | 2 pieces: If your Greater Heal brings the target to full health, you gain 100 mana. |
| 19:22.44 | Codayus | That's pretty nifty. |
| 19:23.01 | Mudkipz | wow, I'm getting rid of romulo's vial as soon as I can |
| 19:23.09 | Codayus | And on the same set: 4 pieces: Your Renew spell also increases all resistances by 15. |
| 19:23.09 | Antiarc|Work | Why's that? |
| 19:23.28 | Mudkipz | Vashj kill and it only proc'd 9 times |
| 19:23.29 | Codayus | So, kinda good set bonus and...a wtf set bonus. |
| 19:23.30 | ckknight | Gnarfoz: yea, delete from SV |
| 19:23.38 | shieldb | it's awesome for the hit bonus, but the procrate is disgustingly low |
| 19:23.44 | Antiarc|Work | Heh, yes. |
| 19:23.52 | Antiarc|Work | I just think of it as a +22hit trinket. |
| 19:23.54 | Antiarc|Work | Which is still nice. |
| 19:23.58 | Mudkipz | I thought the proc was supposed to be increased when they buffed the item... grr |
| 19:24.03 | Antiarc|Work | I use Abacus/Unraveler, though |
| 19:24.07 | Mudkipz | I wish I rolled on that trinket from morass |
| 19:24.08 | shieldb | it was increased |
| 19:24.22 | shieldb | it was like half of the current procrate prepatch I believe |
| 19:24.31 | Antiarc|Work | It's still like 2% |
| 19:24.40 | Antiarc|Work | Which even for a rogue with SnD, is really really low |
| 19:25.09 | Codayus | Well, hit for rogues is...very valuable. |
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| 19:26.20 | shieldb | if wowhead comments are to be believed, you're much better off going for the VR trinket |
| 19:26.20 | kergoth | huh, that ItemValue addon looks nifty |
| 19:26.25 | shieldb | which everyone can get, now! |
| 19:26.57 | Gnarfoz | what's VR again? |
| 19:27.03 | Mudkipz | lootreaver |
| 19:27.07 | Gnarfoz | ah right |
| 19:27.08 | Gnarfoz | hehe |
| 19:27.16 | Antiarc|Work | Warp-Coil Spring, I believe |
| 19:27.20 | Antiarc|Work | Which is supposed to be pretty hot. |
| 19:27.30 | Antiarc|Work | I still want a Dragonspine, but only one has ever dropped for us...on our first kill. |
| 19:27.32 | nevcairiel | [Ammo] / vhaarr: SimpleChatMods is creating alot of garbage here oO will try to track it down tho. |
| 19:27.41 | Silviu- | Antiarc|Work Leothras the blind module is not activating anymore |
| 19:27.47 | Silviu- | Or u removed the chat message ? |
| 19:27.51 | Mudkipz | our first dragonspine went for min to a hunter |
| 19:27.52 | Antiarc|Work | Removed the chat message |
| 19:27.53 | Mudkipz | silly rogues |
| 19:28.00 | Daemona | Antiarc|Work dunno, but i dont think warpspring coil is that imba |
| 19:28.13 | Antiarc|Work | Use "/script AceLibrary("Threat-1.0").DebugEnabled = true" to see debug messages, Silviu- |
| 19:28.20 | Daemona | dragonsphine trophy is far better, as well as tsunami talisman |
| 19:28.30 | Silviu- | Okay np |
| 19:28.52 | Silviu- | Antiarc|Work A command to see if it is enabled ? |
| 19:29.06 | Antiarc|Work | Uhm...lemme see |
| 19:29.35 | Antiarc|Work | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:29.36 | NeoTron | so anyone else feel like void reaver is the new "dance boss" |
| 19:29.47 | Antiarc|Work | If it errors, then it's not loaded :) |
| 19:29.48 | NeoTron | almost constantly have to move, shadow bolt, move ... |
| 19:29.51 | Silviu- | Okay thx it`s on ;p |
| 19:30.05 | aen` | ckknight: my sv's blew up again, what sv's did i need to rename? |
| 19:30.12 | NeoTron | and how the heck did our elemental shaman have 42% crit chance btw? do they have some talents that buff crit incredibly? |
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| 19:30.42 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r40888 10PitBull/PitBull_MetaLayout.lua: PitBull_MetaLayout - don't allow people to make a custom "Combat" text |
| 19:31.07 | ckknight | aen`: "Layout-ABF" => "MetaLayout" or "Layout-MetaLayout" => "MetaLayout" |
| 19:31.08 | ckknight | depending |
| 19:31.12 | NightHawkTheSane | NeoTron: ele shaman get 10% crit from talents alone. |
| 19:31.28 | Gnarfoz | ckknight: thanks ^^ |
| 19:31.33 | NightHawkTheSane | NeoTron: plus, they tend to value +spellcrit highly in itemization, as it procs their clearcasting talent |
| 19:31.57 | Gnarfoz | one of those 'save the dumb' commits, :D |
| 19:31.58 | NeoTron | our shaman who's still rather undergeared topped dps in one VR attempt |
| 19:32.06 | Peoii | I dunno which is worse... a warlock, or a moonkin.... as far as annoyance factor. |
| 19:32.16 | NeoTron | I suspect the faster cast spell also better work out for the moving around a lot aspect of the fight |
| 19:32.19 | Summoner | any jwc here? |
| 19:32.20 | Shamino | ckkinght: think u can take a quick look at http://www.wowace.com/trac/ticket/1104 |
| 19:32.25 | ckknight | Gnarfoz: hehe, yea |
| 19:32.29 | NightHawkTheSane | NeoTron: probably, yeah. was he in a group with an spriest? |
| 19:32.30 | ckknight | Shamino: I'm looking at it |
| 19:32.32 | Mudkipz | jwc? jewelcrafter? |
| 19:32.35 | Summoner | aye |
| 19:32.36 | Shamino | k, thanks |
| 19:32.40 | Mudkipz | what about them? |
| 19:32.50 | Summoner | I'm trying to understand what blizz did with the supposed recipe at halaa |
| 19:33.01 | Mudkipz | there is? |
| 19:33.07 | Mudkipz | What's the name? |
| 19:33.48 | aen` | god damnit, it blew up again |
| 19:33.54 | Codayus | Summoner: Blue said they messed up and it's spawning too rarely right now... |
| 19:34.04 | Codayus | It'll be patched so you can actually have a shot at finding it. |
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| 19:34.42 | Mudkipz | is it a limited vendor item? |
| 19:35.19 | Summoner | this is worse than limited :( |
| 19:35.21 | ckknight | Shamino: okay, I researched into it |
| 19:35.25 | ckknight | Shamino: and I can't reproduce |
| 19:35.30 | ckknight | Shamino: it works just fine for me. |
| 19:35.37 | kenlyric | it's like a 12 hour respanw or something insane. |
| 19:35.39 | Codayus | It's unclear; blue was cryptic as always. But it sounded like it took WAY too long to spawn... |
| 19:35.52 | NeoTron | NightHawkTheSane: shadow priest no, but moonkin |
| 19:36.23 | NeoTron | did they add the new green gems yet? i.e spell hit gems and such |
| 19:36.24 | Shamino | ckknight. how about the ByPlayer table . try to access NbInBag, that will give you an error |
| 19:36.25 | NightHawkTheSane | NeoTron: ahh, *nod* well oomkin would bump his crit rate more, yeah |
| 19:36.27 | ckknight | Shamino: so, best thing I think you can do is to zip up the addon you're working on and send it to me for me to audit |
| 19:36.37 | NeoTron | I was in the group, and I had 30% crit :P |
| 19:36.46 | NeoTron | but I suspect i was out of moonkin and totem auras quite a bit |
| 19:37.11 | ckknight | Shamino: also works fine |
| 19:37.34 | Shamino | then i'm curious how you are trying to reproduce it |
| 19:39.00 | ckknight | Shamino: by you sending me your code |
| 19:39.04 | ckknight | now, c'mon |
| 19:39.07 | ckknight | I don't have all day |
| 19:39.41 | Shamino | ckknight: i'll create a seperate addon without all the meat of mine, that will have the problem |
| 19:39.52 | ckknight | that's fine |
| 19:39.58 | Antiarc|Work | "Please make an option to hide the omen/threat information at the bottom of the window. It's very small and ugly (think gnome female naked)." |
| 19:40.05 | Shamino | skknight: just attach it to the trac ? |
| 19:40.14 | Shamino | ckknight: opps..just attach it to the trac ? |
| 19:41.11 | Iceroth | oh right, is there "grow up" somewhere in omen? |
| 19:41.13 | ckknight | just zip up a working addon and email it to me |
| 19:41.31 | ckknight | lol, Antiarc|Work |
| 19:41.35 | Antiarc|Work | Iceroth: There should be, under "Display" |
| 19:41.36 | Silviu- | Antiarc|Work he means the revision numbers i guess ;) |
| 19:41.41 | Antiarc|Work | Heh, yes |
| 19:41.45 | Iceroth | kk, gotta look harder next time |
| 19:42.06 | CIA-22 | 03thekarn * r40889 10/branches/SanityItemCache/SanityItemCache.lua: |
| 19:42.06 | CIA-22 | SanityItemCache: |
| 19:42.06 | CIA-22 | * Changed the way MatchExpr parses '*' |
| 19:42.06 | CIA-22 | * '*' clause now works. |
| 19:42.39 | Peoii | Antiarc|Work: Gnome hate makes baby jesus cry. |
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| 19:44.06 | aen` | ckknight: it still broke my sv's |
| 19:44.16 | ckknight | alright |
| 19:44.17 | ckknight | "deal" |
| 19:44.37 | ckknight | aen`: make one unit frame how you like it, save that as a layout, then apply it to every other frame |
| 19:44.40 | Antiarc|Work | People that file trac tickets with a mod name annoy me |
| 19:45.08 | ckknight | Antiarc|Work: it should be "Mod Name: My problem here" |
| 19:45.18 | Antiarc|Work | Yeah. Lots of people don't do that though. |
| 19:45.20 | Antiarc|Work | It annoys me. |
| 19:45.32 | Antiarc|Work | "fonts not disabling" |
| 19:45.36 | Antiarc|Work | "Mage Water Not Showing up" |
| 19:45.43 | Antiarc|Work | "Type in line 36" |
| 19:45.45 | Antiarc|Work | what. |
| 19:46.43 | Antiarc|Work | http://www.wowace.com/trac/query?status=new&status=assigned&status=reopened&summary=%21%7E%3A&order=priority |
| 19:46.45 | Antiarc|Work | Auuuuuugh. |
| 19:46.46 | NightHawkTheSane | There's a simple solution to that. Just close out any ticket that's not clear as to which mod it refers to and what the problem is. |
| 19:47.03 | NightHawkTheSane | Make the status "Closed, user too stupid to file proper bug report." |
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| 19:47.25 | Antiarc|Work | One guy filed the same BT3 ticket 5x without a summary. |
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| 19:51.42 | stavmar | Theorycraft question for you guys regarding DPS? |
| 19:51.55 | stavmar | How is it determined over teh span of a raid and the sapn of a fight? |
| 19:52.12 | Antiarc|Work | Total damage done / total time spent in combat? |
| 19:52.46 | Cervanis | what he said |
| 19:52.57 | stavmar | ok Antiarc|Work so if i die early in a raid encounter I could still have a normal DPS even if I die when the boss is down to 50% |
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| 19:53.12 | Antiarc|Work | Depends on how the addon calculates it. |
| 19:53.27 | stavmar | excellent point |
| 19:53.38 | aen` | ckknight: i just deleted the entire SV, if i start over from complete scratch will i still have this problem? |
| 19:53.54 | stavmar | so if i have one person in the raid using SWStats and myself using violation, we could have vastly differnet outcomes correct? |
| 19:54.21 | Peoii | stavmar: The way we calculate it within the guild is we divide based on the time of the longest person in combat during the fight. So if someone dies at 50%, every second after that is hurting their "overall dps" for the fight. Gives us an idea how much personX is actually helping. |
| 19:54.28 | Antiarc|Work | stavmar: Yes. |
| 19:54.53 | Summoner | It's not very clear that ppl must include the name of the addon on the subject. Most will think it's already assigned on another field or that the trac is exclusive for that addon. |
| 19:56.22 | ckknight | aen`: not sure what problem you were having |
| 19:56.36 | stavmar | Peoii/ Antiarc|Work: well we all know that SWStats can really affect FPS while violation does not seem to as much, I am concerned that I can be in a raid of 25 or a group of 5 and sometimes a toon will not even show up on the meter. THat person not showing up might be using SWS and he can tell me my DPS but I cannot see his? |
| 19:56.48 | aen` | ckknight: will rebuilding the SV from scratch fix the prob? |
| 19:57.03 | ckknight | aen`: don't make me repeat myself. |
| 19:58.33 | Peoii | stavmar: I've never missed anyone while running Violation... weird if you did... unless you were really really really far away from personX |
| 19:59.02 | Mudkipz | weird |
| 19:59.04 | stavmar | Peoii: he was right next to me, never showing up. Sometimes Omen has the same issue? |
| 19:59.30 | Mudkipz | I thought violation was fine last night, but warlocks started dissapearing from the list later in the instance |
| 19:59.43 | stavmar | but if that person is not using any threat mods or has threat itself he would never show up unless KTM is being used |
| 19:59.49 | stavmar | And I am a warlock, lol |
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| 20:04.20 | Saroz | ckknight - I disable the Banzai module in Pitbull, but my frames still go red when people have aggro |
| 20:04.34 | ckknight | that shouldn't be... |
| 20:04.59 | Saroz | it is so! |
| 20:04.59 | ckknight | I'll check it out |
| 20:04.59 | Saroz | I disable range check, and range check options are still there aswell but dunno if thats intended |
| 20:04.59 | Saroz | thx |
| 20:05.28 | abyssichate | Ominous: isn't it possible to remove buffs you don't want like Fel Armor and damage potions from being tracked by ClassTimer anymore? |
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| 20:06.44 | Summoner | Saroz: might you still have the seperate PitBull_Banzai module? Mine works as intended at the moment. |
| 20:07.53 | Silviu- | Saroz mine too :) |
| 20:09.04 | alext | any update on KC_Items? I have been trying to follow the development as I am done messing with auctioneer |
| 20:09.10 | alext | kc_items usable yet? |
| 20:09.34 | alext | I have never even tried it except like a year ago when I started |
| 20:09.42 | deltron | not used it in ages |
| 20:10.04 | alext | nice well apparently theres a ace version being developed and last I heard in here it was in beta or somethin |
| 20:10.17 | deltron | of KCI? yeah |
| 20:10.18 | alext | er "an ace" |
| 20:10.20 | alext | yeah |
| 20:10.22 | Josh_Borke | there's a branch version of KCI which is only auctioneer type data |
| 20:10.23 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r40890 10PitBull/PitBull.lua: PitBull - add option to copy layout from another frame without making an intermediate layout. |
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| 20:10.33 | Kalman| | Josh_Borke: Yeah. It runs reasonably well. |
| 20:10.33 | Josh_Borke | there is a trunk version of KCI which is an Ace1 addon |
| 20:10.50 | alext | I am interested in the KCI which does the auctioneer type data |
| 20:10.54 | deltron | the only auction addon is still auctioneer eh? |
| 20:11.37 | alext | KC_Items r26541 2007-02-12 10:01:48 Mod pack that covers (or will cover) just about all possible item functionality. (Kaelten) |
| 20:11.37 | alext | which one is that? |
| 20:11.39 | Kalman| | alext: Ace1. |
| 20:11.43 | alext | the old ace1 rehash? |
| 20:11.44 | alext | oh ok |
| 20:12.02 | Kalman| | Go to the wowace forums, go to the KCI thread, go tothe last couple pages, someone links the Ace2 branch version if you want to try it. |
| 20:12.11 | alext | ah thank you very much I would love to |
| 20:12.23 | Kaelten | http://svn.wowace.com/wowace/branches/KC_Items/Ace2/ |
| 20:12.24 | Kaelten | I think |
| 20:12.37 | Kaelten | http://svn.wowace.com/wowace/branches/KC_Items/Ace2/KC_Items/ |
| 20:12.38 | Kaelten | actually |
| 20:12.44 | Kalman| | Sounds right. Kaelten, I've been running it for a bit, and I get a consistent error - you want it trac'ed or? |
| 20:12.55 | Kaelten | email it to me |
| 20:12.57 | alext | Kaelten: thank yah |
| 20:12.58 | Kaelten | my name at gmail |
| 20:13.02 | Kalman| | Will do. |
| 20:13.03 | alext | will fire this up when i get outa work |
| 20:13.54 | CIA-22 | 03cryect * r40891 10Recount/ (Recount.lua Recount_Modes.lua Tracker.lua): Recount - Adds Tracking of DOT and HOT Uptime (default assumption is 3 seconds per tick with a special table for abilities with tick times not equal to 3 seconds) |
| 20:14.23 | Saroz | Summoner, nono, I don't |
| 20:14.30 | Saroz | Summoner, only have Pitbull |
| 20:14.51 | abyssichate | Ominous: are you there? |
| 20:15.26 | KriLL3 | "AtlasLoot - Skipping AtlasLoot. It appears to be a Subversion working copy." errm, how do I make it update it? |
| 20:15.34 | KriLL3 | (WAU) |
| 20:15.38 | Summoner | ominous has been idle for over 1.5h abyssichate |
| 20:15.43 | abyssichate | okei |
| 20:16.12 | Funkeh` | ckknight: what happened to afk/offline duration timers, they were on by default |
| 20:16.23 | ven | KriLL3, Preferences -> Skip SVN Version Copies |
| 20:16.24 | NightHawkTheSane | KriLL3: remove the svn hidden directory. |
| 20:16.41 | ckknight | Funkeh`: they're still there unless you're using an old version of DogTag |
| 20:16.53 | Funkeh` | ckknight: actually afk seems to work, but offline doesn't |
| 20:17.01 | Funkeh` | ckknight: well i got an oflfine guy with no tag, using latest |
| 20:17.06 | ckknight | does for me... |
| 20:17.08 | Funkeh` | offline* |
| 20:17.25 | KriLL3 | is atlasloot the same as atlasloot enhanced? |
| 20:18.56 | aen` | im gettin invalid key to 'next' |
| 20:18.57 | durcyn | KriLL3: just delete AtlasLoot\.svn |
| 20:20.00 | Dotted | KriLL3 atasloot havent been developed for like a year or longer :D |
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| 20:20.47 | KriLL3 | is WOU using the enhanced or vanilla version? enhanced it still updated |
| 20:21.02 | durcyn | Dotted: someone checked a copy into the wowace svn and has been updating it. |
| 20:21.36 | alext | [Ammo]: I will paypal donate hard cash to you if you either update or make a new version of Necronomicon2 thats like necrosis but without the timers |
| 20:21.38 | alext | ! |
| 20:21.39 | Dotted | which is the enhanced version¨ |
| 20:21.42 | Dotted | durcyn |
| 20:21.52 | Chompers | 13 growths gruul at 33% |
| 20:21.54 | Chompers | is that bad? |
| 20:21.58 | KriLL3 | http://www.daviesh.net/atlasloot_enhanced/ |
| 20:21.58 | Punkie` | yes |
| 20:22.12 | Wixi | hm.. anyone know why my WAU will not show on my screen unless its maximised? |
| 20:22.13 | Punkie` | he should be down before 14 growths at least i think |
| 20:22.30 | Dotted | today atlasloot == atlasloot enhanced |
| 20:22.58 | KriLL3 | I really don't like when old and dead versions of addons linger on sites etc... |
| 20:23.04 | Silviu- | ckknight small issue with dogtag it shows afk for me for example, i relog on another char and the other is still afk :) |
| 20:23.16 | trh | Punkie`: it is possible up to 16 growths, maybe eben more |
| 20:23.23 | Punkie` | yeah |
| 20:23.25 | Punkie` | it is |
| 20:23.25 | Kalman| | Chompers: That's *very* slow. 16 is about the max you want to be headed for. |
| 20:23.28 | ckknight | Silviu-: that's cause it's blizzard. |
| 20:23.29 | KriLL3 | just ran the WoW UI Updater and it gave me old versions of 3 addons... had to restore them |
| 20:23.33 | Silviu- | kay :) |
| 20:23.42 | Punkie` | but at that dps rate their tank isn't probably that well geared |
| 20:23.55 | KriLL3 | gave me 10900 etc toc:ed addons... yay... |
| 20:23.58 | trh | Chompers: did everyone potted? |
| 20:24.02 | Chompers | no t4 for our tank |
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| 20:24.09 | Chompers | its never dropped :/ |
| 20:24.26 | Punkie` | does he have those ugly looking kara epics though? |
| 20:24.30 | Chompers | well, except for today, he finally got the shoulders |
| 20:24.35 | Chompers | aye, fully epiced out |
| 20:24.39 | Chompers | everyones potted |
| 20:24.39 | Punkie` | that should be ok |
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| 20:25.19 | trh | Chompers: maybe a group constellation problem? so DD can't DPS effectively? |
| 20:25.19 | Peoii | Also might wanna check your group makeup, make sure you're maxing everyone out. |
| 20:25.21 | jme | is there a regexp to remove everything after an # in the line? (including the #) |
| 20:25.23 | jme | -p |
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| 20:25.47 | pastamancer | yes |
| 20:25.48 | trh | jme: substitute #(.+) with nothing ;) |
| 20:25.58 | Peoii | Chompers: ie: spriest/shaman/3mage + feral/enhshaman/3rogue + etc. |
| 20:26.36 | jme | trh: :%s/#(.+)//g doesn't work in vim =/ |
| 20:26.37 | Chompers | yeah, something like that would work |
| 20:26.48 | [DiE]Celeb | think we had a 18growth kill pre-nerf when he bugged before we potted... but last time we did gruul he died before 12th without pots and you can't aim for 14+ without luck on silences |
| 20:27.14 | Peoii | Chompers: Group makeup is very very handy... and if nothing else? Get your whole raid the freebie blades edge flasks ;) |
| 20:27.41 | Kalman| | Should be doing so anyway, not like they're hard to come by. |
| 20:28.04 | stavmar | our guild took him down to 6% at 14 growths, but could not finish him off |
| 20:28.14 | Ominous | abyssichate, done |
| 20:28.22 | Ominous | abyssichate, i reverted as i forgot about all those |
| 20:28.27 | khaki[wtf] | 3 |
| 20:28.28 | khaki[wtf] | ....... |
| 20:28.31 | khaki[wtf] | ...... |
| 20:28.35 | stavmar | but i heard that blizzard allwoed you to go up to 30 growths with minimal consequences |
| 20:28.39 | khaki[wtf] | ........... |
| 20:28.40 | trh | jme: uh... #(.*) should work :/ |
| 20:28.42 | khaki[wtf] | 3 |
| 20:28.47 | khaki[wtf] | ..........gg |
| 20:29.08 | stavmar | regarding crtographer_vendors: [2007/06/20 15:03:20-985-x1]: Cartographer_Vendors-r28867\import.lua:989: '}' expected (to close '{' at line 827) near 'Doc' |
| 20:29.11 | khaki[wtf] | lol @ me being bad and cleaning keyboard with IRC open :( |
| 20:29.12 | trh | jme: maybe vim doesnt support . as abbrevation for any char |
| 20:29.12 | [dRaCo] | wtf? 30 grows? |
| 20:29.21 | trh | jme: or # has to be escaped or sth |
| 20:29.31 | stavmar | [dRaCo]: that is what i heard |
| 20:29.43 | trh | btw: did you guys already do opera? |
| 20:29.50 | trh | the event changes after every wipe |
| 20:30.48 | liquiem | that's good, if you still do kara |
| 20:31.07 | jme | trh: :%s/#.*//g worked |
| 20:31.18 | trh | jme: ah.. so vim doesn't like the () |
| 20:31.20 | jme | it was trying to match the ()'s in the string |
| 20:31.21 | jme | yeah |
| 20:31.48 | trh | jme: usually () are there to declare a part of it, so you can process that part extra or sth |
| 20:31.50 | rubik | has opera event always reset after every wipe? or is that something new? |
| 20:32.14 | rubik | i swear i thought you had to wait longer (a day?) in the past to get a diff. event? |
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| 20:32.17 | stavmar | liquiem: so did your guild do Kara before they unlocked teh other 25-mans or were you guys out of there already? |
| 20:32.18 | trh | rubik: it's new |
| 20:32.37 | trh | rubik: before it was always the same event until complete instance reset |
| 20:32.47 | rubik | ahh ok.. makes sense |
| 20:33.16 | TheKarn | its really annoying that blizzard unlocked TK and SSC :( i completed my SSC attunement last week and was one quest away from TK attunement |
| 20:33.39 | Keias | TheKarn, later on they plan on adding a new quest at the end of those chains for some reward |
| 20:33.43 | liquiem | stavmar, we dont do kara anymore, ssc tk bt hyjal |
| 20:33.46 | jme | TheKarn: i think i read that they're putting something special for those that completed the chain |
| 20:33.53 | jme | yeah |
| 20:34.05 | liquiem | the bad thing about unlocking.. price for fel lotus climbs to unseen highs |
| 20:34.07 | liquiem | :( |
| 20:34.07 | stavmar | liquiem: ok to uber for me |
| 20:34.54 | liquiem | but that event change is good... consider oz oz event every id gets kind of boring |
| 20:34.59 | jme | are a lot of guilds in bt by now? |
| 20:35.02 | liquiem | so wipe and get another event ^^ |
| 20:35.27 | stavmar | on alleria there are not many |
| 20:35.59 | jme | i'm on stormreaver... i don't think we have any at all yet |
| 20:36.27 | durcyn | jme if you're trying to use () to sub \# later, you have to escape them on the left half of the sed |
| 20:36.42 | durcyn | i.e. s/#\(.*\)/\1/g |
| 20:36.47 | liquiem | im on retail release realm and we got 3 guilds bt attuned |
| 20:37.06 | jme | durcyn: gotcha |
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| 20:37.34 | durcyn | jme: carets are your friends too :o |
| 20:37.44 | Adirelle | Antiarc|Work: I plan to commit KTM broadcast changes to ThreatLib and to make TTK a simple GUI frontend to enable it |
| 20:37.57 | Antiarc|Work | Adirelle: Works for me :) |
| 20:38.09 | Antiarc|Work | I haven't had a chance to test it yet, but I'll just yell at you if it breaks :P |
| 20:38.18 | jme | liquiem: iirc stormreaver is a day 1 realm too, home of the first level 60 worldwide character etc... we've got a lot of guilds in ssc/the eye at least |
| 20:38.35 | Adirelle | tested it for the most part, I'll add some "thins may breaks warning" |
| 20:38.39 | jme | liquiem: http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=77592725&sid=1 |
| 20:38.47 | Adirelle | the only thing I didn't tested is misdirection |
| 20:39.31 | Chompers | hrm, no more gruul for tonight |
| 20:39.33 | liquiem | jme: sucky horde on stormreaver ^^ |
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| 20:39.42 | Kaelten | http://www.wowinterface.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=10674 <-- anyone who may be interested |
| 20:39.56 | jme | liquiem: yeah, there's one horde guild not listed that is in SSC that i know of. |
| 20:40.11 | jme | i guess they just haven't posted their progress in that thread |
| 20:41.49 | TheKarn | heh he's not the only person who cant afford travel+ticket for blizzcon |
| 20:41.56 | TheKarn | <-- poor student :P |
| 20:42.18 | durcyn | i went in 2005, too godamn many people. |
| 20:42.29 | abyssichate | Ominous: You can't untick the unwanted buffs though, it was better as before I think :s |
| 20:42.43 | Ominous | abyssichate: what? |
| 20:42.50 | Kaelten | TheKarn: Cairenn is a she |
| 20:43.09 | aen` | thats why = free ticket |
| 20:43.17 | TheKarn | my bad |
| 20:44.35 | abyssichate | When you had a list of all the buff you gained |
| 20:46.10 | CIA-22 | 03ulic * r40892 10Cartographer_Vendors/import.lua: Cartographer_Vendors: fixed non-escaped quote marks from last zhTW revision |
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| 20:50.48 | Trancer | how to skip al'ar? |
| 20:50.58 | Trancer | or can we just walk past? |
| 20:51.04 | trh | just walk and /greet |
| 20:51.09 | Trancer | k |
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| 20:51.56 | cotangent | just don't walk into the middle of the room, or get booted there by the birds |
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| 20:57.15 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r40893 10Ace2/AceAddon-2.0/AceAddon-2.0.lua: .AceAddon-2.0 - add a proper popup frame when someone presses "About" |
| 20:57.43 | Trancer | cotangent: playing with the birds atm |
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| 20:58.35 | cotangent | for the single pulls I just tank them with my back to a wall, if I remember right they do a random charge but don't cleave so everyone can stack up close |
| 21:00.31 | cryogen | how the hell can fluidframes use so much memory |
| 21:01.47 | Hjalte | Is there an updated list of "alchemy suppliers" anywhere? I'm leveling alchemy and i want to buy all the recipes i can now :) |
| 21:05.08 | CIA-22 | 03thekarn * r40894 10InSanity/ (. InSanity.lua InSanity.toc): (log message trimmed) |
| 21:05.08 | CIA-22 | InSanity: |
| 21:05.08 | CIA-22 | Initial import - a very simple mod using the SanityItemCache API to allow quick searching of a characters items. |
| 21:05.08 | CIA-22 | Example: |
| 21:05.08 | CIA-22 | /is pt:Consumable.Buff |
| 21:05.10 | CIA-22 | InSanity: Listing all items that matched the filter 'pt:Consumable.Buff' |
| 21:05.12 | CIA-22 | InSanity: Bags 10x[Adept's Elixir] |
| 21:05.24 | CIA-22 | 03hyperactiveChipmunk * r40895 10BulkMail2/BulkMail.lua: |
| 21:05.24 | CIA-22 | BulkMail2: |
| 21:05.24 | CIA-22 | - Gave BM the Expo Express treatment. Lean and mean and pumping steam. |
| 21:05.24 | CIA-22 | - Again, thanks to ckknight and Gagorian for their patience and help. |
| 21:05.32 | ckknight | :-) |
| 21:05.34 | Antiarc|Work | Hahah, nice name, TheKarn |
| 21:05.42 | TheKarn | well it searches in sanity |
| 21:05.50 | hyperChipmunk | hehe that's hilarious |
| 21:06.07 | TheKarn | i wouldnt test it just yet |
| 21:06.19 | TheKarn | i've made some changes to optimize the SearchIter() method |
| 21:06.19 | hyperChipmunk | also, bulkmail2 and bulkmail2inbox are now omgsofastwhoaaaaaaaa |
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| 21:06.36 | TheKarn | i dont actually use a mail mod |
| 21:06.43 | hyperChipmunk | i don't care |
| 21:06.47 | jme | hyperChipmunk: i had a problem when opening all, it would sometime not actually open all messages... is that fixed? |
| 21:06.53 | jme | err |
| 21:06.56 | jme | that's postal, sorry |
| 21:06.58 | KriLL3 | why does the really big addons like bartender3 not get it's own sub forum instead of just 1 thread? |
| 21:07.02 | hyperChipmunk | /doom |
| 21:07.40 | TheKarn | imo when an addon gets so big it needs its own forum it should host its own forum :P |
| 21:08.00 | hyperChipmunk | seriously, both bulkmail addons got a major streamlining. the amount of fat removed could sustain a whale for a year |
| 21:08.22 | hyperChipmunk | they're wheeeeeeeomgfast now |
| 21:08.49 | jme | nevcairiel: ping |
| 21:09.09 | ckknight | CIA-22 |
| 21:09.21 | ckknight | CIA-22 |
| 21:09.43 | jme | :/ |
| 21:09.43 | Kemayo | hyperChipmunk: Are they now so fast that we'll get even more Internal Mail Database Errors? :P |
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| 21:09.55 | CIA-22 | 03hyperactiveChipmunk * r40896 10BulkMail2/BulkMail.lua: |
| 21:09.55 | CIA-22 | BulkMail2: |
| 21:09.55 | CIA-22 | - global function made local |
| 21:09.55 | *** mode/#wowace [+o ckknight] by ChanServ |
| 21:10.05 | hyperChipmunk | they'll fly at you at lightspeed |
| 21:10.15 | hyperChipmunk | seriously, try the new take all; i think you'll be pleased =) |
| 21:10.17 | ckknight | bah |
| 21:11.11 | jme | nevcairiel: if you get a chance, i'd like to see bartender3 able to configure keybindings in a hover mode sort of like bongos :) |
| 21:11.15 | jme | if that hasn't already been asked for |
| 21:11.37 | Antiarc|Work | ckknight: I may have just found your theme song. |
| 21:11.41 | Antiarc|Work | http://www.jonathancoulton.com/mp3/Mr.%20Fancy%20Pants.mp3 |
| 21:11.52 | Antiarc|Work | (btw, anyone that doesn't know about Jonathan Coulton really should check him out) |
| 21:13.05 | hyperChipmunk | I hammered both BM and BMI in any way i could short of automated stress tests, and I can't bring BMI over 20k or BM over 75k |
| 21:13.09 | ckknight | lol, Antiarc|Work |
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| 21:17.55 | CIA-22 | 03hyperactiveChipmunk * r40897 10BulkMail2/BulkMail.lua: |
| 21:17.55 | CIA-22 | BulkMail2: |
| 21:17.55 | CIA-22 | - local refs to self and BulkMail |
| 21:18.26 | CIA-22 | 03hyperactiveChipmunk * r40898 10BulkMail2Inbox/BulkMailInbox.lua: |
| 21:18.26 | CIA-22 | BulkMail2Inbox: |
| 21:18.26 | CIA-22 | - local refs to self and BulkMailInbox |
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| 21:20.12 | CIA-22 | 03cryect * r40899 10Recount/ (Recount.lua Recount_Modes.lua Tracker.lua): Recount - Now tracks interrupts |
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| 21:20.15 | hyperChipmunk | i like not seeing Memory usage for a single function at two megs anymore |
| 21:20.18 | hyperChipmunk | that makes me happy |
| 21:20.33 | trh | which function would do such a bad thing? |
| 21:20.36 | Cryect | 2 megs for a single function O_O |
| 21:20.40 | hyperChipmunk | =x |
| 21:20.52 | Cryect | I though tyou were just doing stuff with mail |
| 21:21.03 | hyperChipmunk | it's all fixed now |
| 21:21.11 | hyperChipmunk | it's /swoon |
| 21:21.55 | Cryect | thats what they all say :-p |
| 21:22.18 | Ominous | dodgizzla, ping |
| 21:22.19 | trh | hyperChipmunk: confess, or we'll have to find it out the hard way :P |
| 21:22.30 | Antiarc|Work | http://www.tvsquad.com/2007/06/17/japanese-human-tetris-game-show-video/ |
| 21:22.54 | hyperChipmunk | i don't remember; that was this morning |
| 21:23.26 | Industrial | Antiarc|Work; is that the one with Ho Man Choi (or however you spell it)? |
| 21:23.42 | Antiarc|Work | I don't think so |
| 21:24.16 | Industrial | yeah it is |
| 21:24.20 | Industrial | the big korean dude :P |
| 21:24.49 | Antiarc|Work | Holy crap |
| 21:24.51 | Antiarc|Work | He's huge |
| 21:25.01 | Cryect | hehe :-p |
| 21:25.10 | Cryect | I like how it can't push him over :-p |
| 21:25.28 | dodgizzla | Ominous: Hai Hai! |
| 21:25.35 | Ominous | what did you want me to change |
| 21:25.36 | hyperChipmunk | oh did i say two megs? i meant seven O_o |
| 21:26.06 | NeoTron | does anyone else get the urge to play <different class> because the players of <different class> in your guild suck? :P |
| 21:26.33 | dodgizzla | Ominous: Please add "Prayer of Mending" and "Shadow Vulnerability" to priests buffs; also I think Shadow Weaving can be removed (it's the talent that procs Shadow Vulnerability). |
| 21:26.44 | Ominous | thanks |
| 21:26.52 | dodgizzla | Ominous: Also I'm not sure what Improved Shadow Word: Pain is :D |
| 21:27.03 | jme | it's more painful? |
| 21:27.09 | Ominous | srug |
| 21:27.11 | durcyn | dodgizzla: haven't you said that 4 times already today? |
| 21:27.22 | dodgizzla | durcyn: At least :D |
| 21:27.24 | durcyn | i'm getting a serious case of deja vu. |
| 21:27.25 | *** mode/#wowace [+o cladhaire] by ChanServ |
| 21:27.34 | dodgizzla | durcyn: I'm persistent :P |
| 21:28.22 | dodgizzla | Ah well, the talent is called that, but still the debuff is called Shadow Word: Pain; only the duration increases |
| 21:28.27 | NeoTron | Antiarc|Work: that's a weird tvshow |
| 21:28.40 | dodgizzla | And because there already is "Shadow Word: Pain" as buff in ClassTimers, I wonder what Imp SW:P does :D |
| 21:28.43 | Antiarc|Work | http://www.bloggercodes.com/videos/treadmill-run-show-on-japanese-tv is AWESOME. |
| 21:28.52 | Ominous | ok ill remove it |
| 21:29.11 | Ominous | wtf |
| 21:29.22 | Ominous | my classtiemr is out of date but no commits have been done here |
| 21:29.27 | mikma | rofl |
| 21:29.29 | mikma | ThreatToKTM: Threat-1.0 revision 40887 is available for download. You're actually using revision 40817. Please consider upgrading. |
| 21:29.48 | dodgizzla | Antiarc|Work: Looks hilarious :> |
| 21:29.51 | Adirelle | mikma: anything wrong with that ? :p |
| 21:30.02 | deltron | I'm the only one using threat in my guild :( |
| 21:30.07 | deltron | they don't want to see the way |
| 21:30.08 | mikma | i thought it's funny that addons remind me to update stuff |
| 21:30.14 | CIA-22 | 03ominous * r40900 10ClassTimer/ (5 files in 3 dirs): ClassTimer: readd babble-spell, update skills, update koKR |
| 21:30.15 | Silviu- | Adirelle btw, i don`t see actual Ktm version only ?? ?? |
| 21:30.16 | Silviu- | ;) |
| 21:30.32 | Silviu- | On all in raid |
| 21:30.45 | Ominous | i wish there was a way to find out if a buff was from a skill or a consumable item |
| 21:30.47 | Adirelle | Silviu-: ask a raid leader to issue a KTM version query |
| 21:30.57 | Silviu- | ah ok |
| 21:31.04 | Silviu- | but no now :) |
| 21:31.12 | Silviu- | I go in vacation |
| 21:31.17 | Silviu- | bye |
| 21:31.24 | nevcairiel | have fun |
| 21:31.24 | Ominous | Adirelle, can you add a version query |
| 21:31.29 | Silviu- | thx ;p |
| 21:31.46 | Adirelle | Ominous: I'll do, for raid leaders |
| 21:31.49 | ckknight | Question to the users: would you mind having an unobtrusive "Donate" button in the menus of the Ace2 addons? Who you donate to is up to the author. |
| 21:31.53 | Adirelle | (KTM won't answer) |
| 21:32.01 | Ominous | Adirelle: what do you mean |
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| 21:32.30 | Adirelle | KTM only allow group officers to issue versionquery and only reply to their versionqueries |
| 21:32.43 | [dRaCo] | ckk: how's that supposed to work? clickable links ingame? |
| 21:32.51 | ckknight | [dRaCo]: pops up a link you can copy |
| 21:32.55 | Ominous | Adirelle: but if you are leader of premoted then will ktm reply to KTMTT |
| 21:32.56 | Adirelle | btw, I'm rewriting TTK, as most of the stuff is getting into ThreatLin |
| 21:33.15 | Adirelle | Ominous: yes |
| 21:33.40 | Adirelle | TTK will become a light-weight front-end |
| 21:33.54 | [dRaCo] | think that'll change the donate behaviour of ppl? |
| 21:34.17 | hyperChipmunk | http://69.14.77.214/bmbeforeafter.png O_o |
| 21:34.48 | liquiem | wtf, 32mb? |
| 21:35.00 | ckknight | [dRaCo]: it might help |
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| 21:35.20 | Cryect | So why is MAIL_SHOW 2mb? now instead of the 230 kb? |
| 21:35.21 | ckknight | it defaults to wowace's donation page, btw, and if the server gets more funds, that's good for everyone |
| 21:35.27 | Cryect | or is that oh wait |
| 21:35.32 | Cryect | nm |
| 21:35.41 | Cryect | are you creating new tables every call hyperChipmunk? |
| 21:35.45 | hyperChipmunk | not anymore |
| 21:36.00 | hyperChipmunk | what's at the bottom is an example of where i was this morning |
| 21:36.01 | [dRaCo] | sure, no doubt about donations being good for wowace... I just wonder if ppl will like that kind of "advertisement" |
| 21:36.21 | ckknight | [dRaCo]: it's unobtrusive. |
| 21:36.25 | ckknight | [dRaCo]: and not forceful |
| 21:36.32 | ckknight | [dRaCo]: if they don't like it, they can go fuck themselves. |
| 21:36.39 | [dRaCo] | hrhr |
| 21:36.44 | jme | i don't see a donate link as an advertisement |
| 21:36.49 | hyperChipmunk | what's at the top is me clicking on the mailbox/changing mail tabs/doing crazy stuff like a million times |
| 21:36.49 | jme | +being |
| 21:36.55 | KriLL3 | I love Eloquence, adds uppercase in beginning of sentences, punctuation, and makes all shorts like "LFG" to actual words, makes me look really odd I guess though, since it filters both incoming and outgoing, so in chat for others without it everyone says "wtb [item] 3g" while I say "Buying [item] for three gold" =P |
| 21:37.07 | hyperChipmunk | with the versions of BM/BMI that i just committed |
| 21:37.09 | KriLL3 | oh, +. after gold =P |
| 21:37.09 | trh | ckknight: actually, that's a good idea :) |
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| 21:37.16 | trh | ckknight: didn't thought of it :) |
| 21:37.21 | ckknight | trh: lol, me either. |
| 21:37.25 | ckknight | thought of it this morning |
| 21:37.32 | Peoii | ckknight: Would it be down like for instance, say, between About & Close on a fubar dewdrop? |
| 21:37.42 | ckknight | Peoii: that's _exactly_ where it's going |
| 21:37.42 | trh | ckknight: i'll include 2 buttons for donate to author and donate to wowace soon in the about page soon :) |
| 21:37.44 | ckknight | :-P |
| 21:37.48 | trh | ckknight: on my addon :) |
| 21:37.57 | trh | ckknight: but i doubt they'll be used ;) |
| 21:38.13 | ckknight | trh: in your addon, basically, add X-Donate: Paypal:trh@gmail.com |
| 21:38.16 | ckknight | or whatever your email is |
| 21:38.30 | Peoii | ckknight: If that's _exactly_ where it's going, then game on :P I don't really care, takes 0 resources, gives people wishing to help in that regard well, help. |
| 21:38.31 | jme | is there any difference between Automaton and Minimalist? |
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| 21:39.59 | Ominous | ckknight: the name in the about box needs to move about 5pixles right |
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| 21:40.11 | Shamino_ | ckknight: that issue with AceDB might be related to me using tinsert to insert a new record into the table self.db.realm.name ... does tinsert screw with AceDB ? |
| 21:40.26 | ckknight | Shamino_: completely. |
| 21:40.34 | ckknight | Shamino_: do this instead: |
| 21:40.43 | ckknight | local db = self.db.realm.name |
| 21:40.48 | ckknight | db[#db+1] = "pants" |
| 21:40.58 | ckknight | instead of table.insert(self.db.realm.name, "pants") |
| 21:41.01 | ckknight | faster, too |
| 21:41.49 | *** mode/#wowace [+o clad|away] by ChanServ |
| 21:42.07 | Shamino | ckknight: yea, was trying to avoid that for some reason. perhaps when i refactor it i will remember. but i'm blank for now |
| 21:43.16 | shieldb | KriLL3, sounds like Eloquence is trying to "un-internet" the internet? ;) |
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| 21:45.30 | NeoTron | if in install addons with no externals and "automatic dependencies" how likely am I to miss various ace libs? :P |
| 21:45.39 | trh_ | oh man.. my computer is so laggy when i run 2 wow's |
| 21:45.47 | NeoTron | is it guaranteed / likely to include most externals? |
| 21:45.53 | CIA-22 | 03hyperactiveChipmunk * r40901 10BulkMail2Inbox/BulkMailInbox.lua: |
| 21:45.53 | CIA-22 | BulkMail2Inbox: |
| 21:45.54 | CIA-22 | - fixed bug causing the inbox gui to not re-open when the mailbox was re-clicked while already open |
| 21:46.29 | trh_ | NeoTron: depends on how good the mod authors were on writing their .toc |
| 21:47.11 | NeoTron | so there's no sanity checking done to ensure externals properties match dependencies listed in the .toc then? |
| 21:48.22 | trh_ | NeoTron: yep |
| 21:48.49 | trh_ | but i think most addons .toc's are ok |
| 21:49.08 | NeoTron | I'll see tonight |
| 21:49.19 | NeoTron | want to try to figure what it is that's slowing down my system so much |
| 21:50.04 | NeoTron | I can't recall if it coincided with the 2.1 patch |
| 21:50.24 | NeoTron | first time I noticed was on hydross after installing Omen |
| 21:50.38 | Antiarc|Work | I hope it's not Omen ;) |
| 21:50.38 | NeoTron | but.. with WAU I always update stuff so i'm more inclined to think it's something else |
| 21:50.55 | NeoTron | I still do run with omen and have good performance so I doubt it |
| 21:51.12 | stavmar | ok i keep getting DCd from the game, hrm... |
| 21:51.35 | Antiarc|Work | http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20070619-google-opens-up-malware-blacklist-api.html :O |
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| 21:54.28 | A|Lupita | Hello, anyone there using RightWing, and can help me with a prob? |
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| 22:01.59 | CIA-22 | 03adirelle * r40902 10Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0.lua: (log message trimmed) |
| 22:01.59 | CIA-22 | Threat-1.0: |
| 22:01.59 | CIA-22 | - handle KLHTM master target localization, |
| 22:01.59 | CIA-22 | - handle KLHTM misdirection message *untested*. |
| 22:01.59 | CIA-22 | - added KLHTM broadcast support: |
| 22:01.59 | CIA-22 | . not even loaded by default, need to be explicitely enabled, |
| 22:02.00 | *** join/#wowace Wogroipl_ (n=Wogroipl@c529c7a0e.cable.wanadoo.nl) |
| 22:02.01 | CIA-22 | . pretends to be KLHTM version 19.18, |
| 22:04.07 | CIA-22 | 03adirelle * r40903 10ThreatToKTM/ (ThreatToKTM.lua ThreatToKTM.toc): |
| 22:04.07 | CIA-22 | ThreatToKTM: |
| 22:04.07 | CIA-22 | - udpated to use ThreatLib embedded KLHTM support, |
| 22:04.07 | CIA-22 | - dropped some data display that are now ThreatLib internals (e.g. not more reachable), |
| 22:04.07 | CIA-22 | - added KLHTM command support : setting/clearing master target, sending version query, |
| 22:04.08 | CIA-22 | - option to enable ThreatLib debugging, |
| 22:04.10 | CIA-22 | - command to dump ThreatLib revision informations. |
| 22:04.32 | TheKarn | udpated .. nice |
| 22:04.55 | Adirelle | hmm... maybe should I make shorter commit log or commit smaller changes... dunno |
| 22:05.04 | Peoii | hehe |
| 22:05.49 | trh_ | it's fine IMO :) |
| 22:05.51 | Peoii | Adirelle: So atm, if I'm reading this correctly, I need TTK to enable ktm broadcast support. However, that won't be mandatory in the future as another addon could turn on the same support? |
| 22:06.10 | Antiarc|Work | I'm going to add ktm broadcast support to Omen, too, so yeah :) |
| 22:06.16 | Peoii | nifty. |
| 22:06.25 | Antiarc|Work | Looks good, Adirelle |
| 22:06.26 | Adirelle | Peoii: a macro is sufficient : /run AceLibrary('Threat-1.0'):EnableKLHTMBroadcast(true) |
| 22:06.27 | Antiarc|Work | Thanks :) |
| 22:06.47 | Adirelle | Antiarc|Work: seems worky too |
| 22:06.50 | Peoii | Adirelle: that'd be all well and good if I wasn't capped out on my macros :/ |
| 22:06.54 | Antiarc|Work | Excellent! |
| 22:07.01 | Adirelle | not heavily tested tho |
| 22:07.36 | Antiarc|Work | Adirelle: I'm considering splitting out all the KTM compat into its own file, as the main file is nearly 60kb now |
| 22:07.37 | Antiarc|Work | Thoughts? |
| 22:07.50 | Antiarc|Work | It'd share the ThreatLib namespace, just wouldn't have access to file-scoped locals. |
| 22:07.52 | Adirelle | Antiarc|Work: just need access to some internals |
| 22:08.00 | Antiarc|Work | Yeah |
| 22:08.05 | Adirelle | hmm... |
| 22:08.22 | Adirelle | all is in LoadKLHTMSupport, you can pass in upvalues |
| 22:09.02 | Gnarfoz | ergh |
| 22:09.08 | Gnarfoz | hm. |
| 22:09.11 | Antiarc|Work | Ooh, good idea. |
| 22:09.18 | Gnarfoz | my cartographer resets to the current zone, again :\ |
| 22:12.32 | Shamino | ckknight: ah thank god. spent all day on that. that was the problem. tinsert == very bad for AceDB |
| 22:12.57 | ckknight | yes. |
| 22:12.59 | Antiarc|Work | :O |
| 22:13.00 | Antiarc|Work | http://tesladownunder.com/Tesla18Dalek10003Ft.jpg |
| 22:13.05 | Antiarc|Work | That is hard freakin' core. |
| 22:13.13 | Cryect | hahaha |
| 22:13.15 | Shamino | now perhaps i can do the work i get paid for lol |
| 22:13.47 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r40904 10Ace2/AceAddon-2.0/AceAddon-2.0.lua: |
| 22:13.47 | CIA-22 | .AceAddon-2.0 - add a donate button to AceOptions menus that inherit from AceAddon-2.0. To specify what the donation should be for, X-Donate is set. There are currently two ways it can look: |
| 22:13.47 | CIA-22 | X-Donate: Website:http://wowace.com/wiki/Donations |
| 22:13.47 | CIA-22 | X-Donate: PayPal:ckknight@gmail.com |
| 22:14.33 | Adirelle | I'm curious too see if this really works :p |
| 22:14.45 | Shamino | ckknight: hm.. would that be parsed onto the wiki ? |
| 22:15.05 | ckknight | theoretically it could be. |
| 22:15.11 | Cryect | Adirelle build a tesla coil and try it! |
| 22:15.13 | Cryect | :-p |
| 22:17.36 | Antiarc|Work | ckknight: Concern: |
| 22:17.44 | ckknight | hrm? |
| 22:17.47 | hyperChipmunk | lol Much-needed donation |
| 22:17.54 | ckknight | hyperChipmunk: hey, I gotta eat |
| 22:17.57 | Antiarc|Work | Emails in the TOCs will be picked up by web spiders, which make them vulnerable to spam bots |
| 22:18.02 | ckknight | hrm... |
| 22:18.08 | Antiarc|Work | Maybe offer some kind of obfuscation scheme? |
| 22:18.08 | ckknight | my email's in my tocs already. |
| 22:18.17 | ckknight | :-P |
| 22:18.21 | Antiarc|Work | *shrug* |
| 22:18.42 | ckknight | I'll add something in. |
| 22:19.02 | ckknight | basically, :gsub(" AT ", "@"):gsub(" DOT ", ".") |
| 22:19.02 | Adirelle | I've got a "facade" email, that redirects to my real ones |
| 22:19.34 | Neebler | my gmail spam filter works wonderfully |
| 22:20.00 | Antiarc|Work | I use gmail, which works well, but I still try to avoid leaving my email in plaintext when at all possible. |
| 22:20.05 | trh_ | i use a email address that's for spam anyway =) |
| 22:20.10 | Neebler | after the first couple of weeks of using gmail and "marking as spam" I dont get anymore spam in my normal inbox. but I get about 300 a week in the "spam" directory |
| 22:21.27 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r40905 10Ace2/AceAddon-2.0/AceAddon-2.0.lua: .AceAddon-2.0 - you can now obfuscate your emails in the TOC by doing ckknight AT gmail DOT com |
| 22:21.56 | *** join/#wowace AnduinLothar (n=AnduinLo@WoWUIDev/Cosmos/AnduinLothar) |
| 22:21.58 | hyperChipmunk | they'll never pick up on it! |
| 22:22.16 | Antiarc|Work | It'll slip by simple regexes, at least. |
| 22:22.19 | Industrial | cant you just edit the toc? |
| 22:22.30 | *** join/#wowace RaydenUni (n=bozartmp@adsl-69-231-155-93.dsl.irvnca.pacbell.net) |
| 22:22.31 | hyperChipmunk | yea, that's what i thought you were gonna do |
| 22:22.40 | Industrial | instead of making code to edit the toc? |
| 22:22.45 | Industrial | just an idea |
| 22:22.46 | Industrial | :P |
| 22:22.52 | hyperChipmunk | that way they'll all be obfuscated |
| 22:23.14 | Peoii | hrm.. |
| 22:23.21 | Peoii | I really need a better way to manage my tells :/ |
| 22:23.22 | Jagobah | wow |
| 22:23.31 | Antiarc|Work | http://www.theregister.co.uk/2007/06/20/padlock_ordeal/ |
| 22:23.42 | rubik | any way to show wowhead item tooltips on my site? any public code to do so (i think worldofraids forums use something but don't know if ok to "steal it") |
| 22:23.57 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r40906 10PitBull/PitBull.toc: PitBull - update TOC to obfuscate emails and add X-Donate |
| 22:25.26 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r40907 10PitBull/PitBull.toc: PitBull - change website to wowace instead of wowinterface in TOC. |
| 22:25.34 | *** part/#wowace Punkie` (n=~@host86-130-2-120.range86-130.btcentralplus.com) |
| 22:25.42 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r40908 10FuBar/FuBar.toc: FuBar - update TOC to obfuscate emails and add X-Donate, change X-Website to wowace instad of wowinterface |
| 22:26.13 | TheKarn | Antiarc|Work, you have too much free time :P |
| 22:26.23 | TheKarn | Antiarc|Work, go test my changes in branches :P |
| 22:26.31 | Antiarc|Work | TheKarn: Nah, I just have people that feed me interesting links :P |
| 22:26.38 | Morghus | For some reason I am still getting these AceConsole errors everytime I run this hide/show macro :( |
| 22:26.45 | *** join/#wowace sag_ich_nicht (i=bitch2k@85-124-38-101.dynamic.xdsl-line.inode.at) |
| 22:27.30 | Morghus | Hmm... pastey down. |
| 22:27.32 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r40909 10Cartographer/Cartographer.toc: Cartographer - update TOC to obfuscate emails and add X-Donate, change X-Website to wowace instad of wowinterface |
| 22:28.05 | Morghus | http://pastey.net/57301 |
| 22:28.23 | Morghus | There's alot of errors that refers to AceConsole, similar to that one. |
| 22:28.44 | Ominous | whats the advantage of obfuscateing e-mails |
| 22:29.10 | Morghus | Web-spiders can't pick them up for spam |
| 22:29.17 | Antiarc|Work | Ominous: Spam bots crawling around with regexs sucking out emails won't pick them up |
| 22:29.28 | Antiarc|Work | O____O |
| 22:29.30 | Antiarc|Work | "Jack Bauer saved Los Angeles. ... He saved hundreds of thousands of lives," Judge Scalia said. Then, recalling Season 2, where the agent's rough interrogation tactics saved California from a terrorist nuke, the Supreme Court judge etched a line in the sand. "Are you going to convict Jack Bauer?" Judge Scalia challenged his fellow judges. "Say that criminal law is against him? 'You have the right to a jury trial?' Is any jury going to convict Jack Bau |
| 22:29.35 | Antiarc|Work | http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/story/LAC.20070616.BAUER16/TPStory/TPNational/Television/ |
| 22:29.38 | Antiarc|Work | That's just scary. |
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| 22:31.36 | *** mode/#wowace [+o tardmrr] by ChanServ |
| 22:32.17 | cotangent | saw an story today that all those attempts to mask email address make them easier to find with google |
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| 22:32.34 | *** mode/#wowace [+o tardmrr] by ChanServ |
| 22:33.43 | *** join/#wowace sylvanaar (n=sylvanaa@205-196-182-22.static.cmts1.phonoscope.net) |
| 22:34.46 | trh_ | Antiarc: lol.. like 6 months ago a german politician said it was ok to use confessions that were get by torturing because so many people watch 24, therefore they accept torture as a legal instrument to gain a confession |
| 22:35.03 | Antiarc|Work | Seriously. It blows my mind. |
| 22:37.05 | ilifin | http://www.hauntedfrog.com/gt/movies/2007/duckon/SingingTeslaShow.html this is just too cool |
| 22:37.20 | cotangent | here's that story about obfuscation making email addresses easier to find |
| 22:37.22 | cotangent | http://typewriting.org/2006/06/19/Email_Obfuscation_Helps_Spammers/ |
| 22:37.44 | hyperChipmunk | oh man |
| 22:37.55 | *** join/#wowace Gamefaq (i=Gamefaq@pD9527472.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 22:38.05 | hyperChipmunk | that's way cool |
| 22:39.03 | *** join/#wowace weab (n=asdf@cpe-70-112-143-167.austin.res.rr.com) |
| 22:39.14 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r40910 10FuBar_AmmoFu/FuBar_AmmoFu.toc: FuBar_AmmoFu - update TOC to obfuscate emails and add X-Donate, change X-Website to wowace instead of wowinterface |
| 22:39.26 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r40911 10FuBar_ClockFu/FuBar_ClockFu.toc: FuBar_ClockFu - update TOC to obfuscate emails and add X-Donate, change X-Website to wowace instead of wowinterface |
| 22:39.33 | CIA-22 | 03kemayo * r40912 10SpecialEventsEmbed/SpecialEventsEmbed.toc: SpecialEventsEmbed: Optdeps. |
| 22:39.43 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r40913 10FuBar_DebugFu/FuBar_DebugFu.toc: FuBar_DebugFu - update TOC to obfuscate emails and add X-Donate, change X-Website to wowace instead of wowinterface |
| 22:39.48 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r40914 10FuBar_DurabilityFu/FuBar_DurabilityFu.toc: FuBar_DurabilityFu - update TOC to obfuscate emails and add X-Donate, change X-Website to wowace instead of wowinterface |
| 22:39.54 | trh_ | does wowace has a paypal to address? |
| 22:39.56 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r40915 10FuBar_ExperienceFu/FuBar_ExperienceFu.toc: FuBar_ExperienceFu - update TOC to obfuscate emails and add X-Donate, change X-Website to wowace instead of wowinterface |
| 22:40.03 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r40916 10FuBar_HonorFu/FuBar_HonorFu.toc: FuBar_HonorFu - update TOC to obfuscate emails and add X-Donate, change X-Website to wowace instead of wowinterface |
| 22:40.07 | trh_ | on the wiki i only find buttons which arent direct links |
| 22:40.07 | *** join/#wowace kade (n=chatzill@dslb-082-083-077-245.pools.arcor-ip.net) |
| 22:40.09 | ilifin | whoa spam |
| 22:40.16 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r40917 10FuBar_LocationFu/FuBar_LocationFu.toc: FuBar_LocationFu - update TOC to obfuscate emails and add X-Donate, change X-Website to wowace instead of wowinterface |
| 22:40.22 | Antiarc|Work | You know, it's really naieve to think that spambots use Google to collect emails. |
| 22:40.24 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r40918 10FuBar_PerformanceFu/FuBar_PerformanceFu.toc: FuBar_PerformanceFu - update TOC to obfuscate emails and add X-Donate, change X-Website to wowace instead of wowinterface |
| 22:40.34 | ckknight | done for now |
| 22:40.41 | ckknight | Antiarc|Work: it really is. |
| 22:40.41 | trh_ | does wowace has a paypal to address? |
| 22:40.42 | trh_ | on the wiki i only find buttons which arent direct links |
| 22:40.50 | trh_ | or are links with alot of metainformation |
| 22:41.01 | ckknight | trh_: it does, but it's easier to link to the wiki page |
| 22:41.15 | trh_ | oh.. good idea.. i feel stupid ;) |
| 22:41.18 | ckknight | Note: if you do not specify an X-Donate, it will go to wowace automatically |
| 22:41.36 | Antiarc|Work | I mean, I have no doubt that a lot of spam bots look for "x at y dot z" too, but googling for obfuscated emails is sorta silly when there are a ton of unobfuscated emails to harvest far more easily. |
| 22:41.38 | trh_ | ya.. the X-Donate is in my addon only visible via commandline |
| 22:41.46 | trh_ | that's why i'm adding a manual link in the about frame |
| 22:42.00 | ckknight | trh_: you're not using Ace? |
| 22:42.31 | trh_ | ckknight: i do, but the guu configuration isn't accessible via command line |
| 22:42.36 | trh_ | gui |
| 22:42.44 | trh_ | they are seperate tables |
| 22:42.46 | TheKarn | its my opinion that a better form of obfuscation is to randomly select characters or sequences of characters to wrap in <div> or <span> blocks and also randomy insert random characters in a <div> or <span> that has display:none. essentially this would result in a readable email address in common modern browsers and yet the underlying code would be difficult to deobfuscate without first rendering the page or parseing the CSS |
| 22:42.49 | ckknight | trh_: ah. |
| 22:43.06 | Antiarc|Work | I'm a fan of converting the email to HTML entities :D |
| 22:43.11 | CIA-22 | 03kemayo * r40919 10PitBull/PitBull.toc: |
| 22:43.11 | CIA-22 | PitBull |
| 22:43.11 | CIA-22 | - Fill out OptionalDeps and X-Embeds. |
| 22:43.23 | TheKarn | HTML entities can be easily undone |
| 22:43.32 | TheKarn | and then the text reread for email addresses |
| 22:43.44 | Kemayo | The problem with writing an updater is that everyone comes to you when addons have incomplete optdeps. |
| 22:44.38 | Chompers | holy shit a 5v5 match againt 5 mages |
| 22:44.45 | Chompers | *against |
| 22:44.49 | Shirik|zZz | everyone insta-died? |
| 22:44.50 | sag_ich_nicht | the easiest protection |
| 22:44.50 | Shirik|zZz | ya? |
| 22:44.52 | sag_ich_nicht | is a god damn image |
| 22:45.01 | sag_ich_nicht | anyway, good night now. |
| 22:45.26 | Antiarc|Work | test@test.com -> test@test.com |
| 22:45.35 | trh_ | sag_ich_nicht: ocr is too easy nowaday |
| 22:45.38 | Antiarc|Work | Renders as test@test.com in the browser. |
| 22:45.55 | *** join/#wowace kaugummi (n=kaugummi@80.145.195.153) |
| 22:47.31 | Antiarc|Work | Since this is a Lua app, I guess you could use -> \116\101\115\116\64\116\101\115\116\46\99\111\109 |
| 22:48.03 | CIA-22 | 03kemayo * r40920 10Prat/Prat.toc: Prat: Optdeps, why hast thou forsaken me? |
| 22:48.06 | sbu | ckknight: so you need money? :P |
| 22:48.22 | ckknight | sbu: well, yes |
| 22:48.33 | ckknight | sbu: I want a dollar from every one of my users |
| 22:48.34 | ckknight | basically |
| 22:48.42 | ckknight | partially to see how many users I have |
| 22:48.47 | ckknight | and partially because I need more RAM |
| 22:49.59 | CIA-22 | 03antiarc * r40921 10Omen/Omen.toc: Omen: Added X-Donate with obfuscated email mostly to see if it works |
| 22:51.43 | trh_ | i wish kaelten would implement web server statistics for authors :) |
| 22:51.52 | trh_ | to see how often a day a specific addon gets downloaded |
| 22:52.09 | CIA-22 | 03kemayo * r40922 10BigWigs/BigWigs.toc: BigWigs: Optdeps. |
| 22:52.10 | Kaelten | trh_: next version of the site, I'll think about it :P |
| 22:52.19 | Antiarc|Work | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:52.22 | Antiarc|Work | :) |
| 22:52.37 | hyperChipmunk | how bout just a peen-o-meter |
| 22:52.49 | Antiarc|Work | It could be a thermometer with two bulbs at the bottom |
| 22:52.55 | hyperChipmunk | lol |
| 22:53.05 | rubik | Kemayo: oh btw, thanks very much for your python updater script.. it's awesome! |
| 22:53.13 | sylvanaar | Kemayo opdeps = no |
| 22:53.40 | sylvanaar | Kemayo why hast thou placed them there |
| 22:54.04 | Kemayo | sylvanaar: Because people were complaining to me about loading-order errors. |
| 22:55.26 | Funkeh` | Kemayo: how will that fix it |
| 22:55.37 | Funkeh` | Kemayo: we removed them for a reason |
| 22:55.44 | trh_ | uh.. i remember you could call a external browser from ingame.. what was the command to it? |
| 22:55.51 | trh_ | or was it only possible via SimpleHTML? |
| 22:56.04 | Antiarc|Work | SimpleHTML |
| 22:56.06 | Josh_Borke | um, you can't call an external browser in game |
| 22:56.09 | Antiarc|Work | You can't get outside from in-game |
| 22:56.15 | Josh_Borke | you can create simple html frames in game with SimpleHTML |
| 22:56.22 | Josh_Borke | but when they say simple, they MEAN simple |
| 22:56.23 | Kemayo | Funkeh`: ...by making sure that the libs get loaded before Prat when it's downloaded without externals? |
| 22:56.38 | trh_ | Josh_Borke: i thought they could contain a http reference, at least |
| 22:56.44 | Josh_Borke | hell no |
| 22:56.55 | Funkeh` | Kemayo: AceLibrary handles that |
| 22:57.18 | Kemayo | This would not explain why people were getting errors. |
| 22:57.41 | Funkeh` | i don't get error, everything works fine |
| 22:57.48 | *** mode/#wowace [+o kergoth] by ChanServ |
| 22:57.50 | Funkeh` | i have never had any reports or posts about it |
| 22:58.00 | Arrowmaster | without the optdeps, wont the standalones not get loaded if somebodys using both standalones and embeds |
| 22:58.11 | ilifin | http://break.com/index/norweigian-kids-mess-with-train.html .. |
| 22:58.14 | ilifin | WHAT IN THE HEL |
| 22:58.15 | Funkeh` | no, AceLibrary loads the standalones |
| 22:58.23 | Kemayo | Funkeh`: http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=3731.msg113025 |
| 22:58.28 | Arrowmaster | even if the lib is already loaded? |
| 22:58.39 | Kemayo | There is your report about it. :) |
| 22:59.04 | Funkeh` | Kemayo: thats your updater |
| 22:59.12 | Funkeh` | everything works fine for evryone else |
| 23:00.06 | ckknight | lol, ilifin |
| 23:01.11 | Funkeh` | Kemayo: where on that post does it say standalone libraries |
| 23:02.04 | Funkeh` | Kemayo: ace2 will always load first and load the standalones before the addons |
| 23:02.06 | Kemayo | Funkeh`: Actually, it doesn't. It does say that they fixed their problem by adding a dependency on all the X-Embeds. |
| 23:02.52 | Funkeh` | Kemayo: infact that is all 1 person |
| 23:02.58 | Funkeh` | its not even multiple people |
| 23:03.51 | trh_ | ckknight: the window with the information as provided in the .toc should be callable externally |
| 23:04.01 | trh_ | ckknight: so addon authors can create additional links to it :) |
| 23:04.22 | ckknight | what do you mean? |
| 23:04.41 | Kemayo | Funkeh`: Feel free to revert the change if you want -- I'll let you know if anyone else reports a problem. |
| 23:04.48 | trh_ | ckknight: sth. like AceLibrary("AceAddon"):ShowDonationThing(ADDON_NAME); |
| 23:04.54 | sylvanaar | Kemayo: no plz dont do that |
| 23:05.14 | ckknight | trh_: addon:OpenDonationFrame() |
| 23:05.24 | Kemayo | sylvanaar: What was that in response to? |
| 23:05.28 | trh_ | oops |
| 23:05.40 | ckknight | trh_: it's documented and everything |
| 23:05.54 | trh_ | ckknight: looked in the source |
| 23:05.59 | trh_ | ckknight: and overswa it |
| 23:06.25 | sylvanaar | dont add dependancies or optdepts to things, they can actually break addons now |
| 23:07.06 | Kemayo | How do they break things? (I had not heard of such a thing.) |
| 23:07.07 | cotangent | checkout wowhead.com |
| 23:07.12 | Saroz | ckknight fix Pitbull "module always being enabled, even if unchecked" bug :) |
| 23:08.16 | ckknight | Saroz: um, works for me? |
| 23:08.44 | rubik | cotangent: what about it? |
| 23:08.53 | trh_ | omg |
| 23:08.56 | trh_ | look at wowhead.com |
| 23:08.57 | cotangent | last I checked it was a godaddy add page |
| 23:09.01 | trh_ | wtf? |
| 23:09.06 | rubik | works fine here? |
| 23:09.20 | cotangent | ctry ctrl f5 to clear your cached version |
| 23:09.22 | trh_ | "this page is parked free by godaddy.com" |
| 23:09.24 | rubik | i did |
| 23:09.32 | trh_ | and full of gold ads |
| 23:09.32 | rubik | ctrl-f5 shows me wowhead main page |
| 23:09.42 | rubik | lrn2firefox? |
| 23:09.46 | cotangent | I am |
| 23:09.50 | *** join/#wowace kaugummi (n=kaugummi@p5091F61D.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 23:09.51 | rubik | heh.. (was j/k) |
| 23:09.57 | rubik | but it does show up fine here |
| 23:10.14 | rubik | i even queried for stuff and gives me real results |
| 23:10.28 | rubik | what does wowhead.com resolve to over there? |
| 23:10.28 | Ominous | www.wowhead.com works wowhead.com dosent |
| 23:10.45 | rubik | ohhh |
| 23:10.46 | trh_ | www.wowhead.com gives same crap as wowhead.com |
| 23:10.48 | trh_ | probably dns cached |
| 23:10.55 | cotangent | 68.178.232.100 |
| 23:10.58 | trh_ | (at your place) |
| 23:11.17 | trh_ | try ipconfig /flushdns |
| 23:11.26 | rubik | hah.. no wonder |
| 23:11.27 | rubik | wowhead.com (68.178.232.100) |
| 23:11.35 | rubik | www.wowhead.com (75.126.130.186) |
| 23:11.44 | trh_ | has to resolve to .100 |
| 23:11.48 | trh_ | i wonder what happened |
| 23:12.11 | cotangent | someone screwed up a name server entry or something |
| 23:12.31 | *** join/#wowace anholt (n=anholt@69-30-77-85.dq1sn.easystreet.com) |
| 23:12.50 | trh_ | cotangent: whois wowhead.com points to godaddy.com |
| 23:12.59 | *** join/#wowace Coldheart (i=cold@systembolaget.us) |
| 23:13.00 | cotangent | yeah I checked that already |
| 23:13.08 | trh_ | so it's the entry at the registrar that's f*ed up |
| 23:13.44 | Josh_Borke | heh |
| 23:14.06 | hyperChipmunk | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:14.06 | hyperChipmunk | RPG like World Warcraft |
| 23:14.06 | hyperChipmunk | Fight monsters with magic or might. 100’s of weapons, armors, and pets. |
| 23:14.26 | rubik | armors? is that a word? |
| 23:15.05 | rubik | a verb, i guess.. not plural noun.. but anyway |
| 23:15.37 | rubik | so you have to pick magic or might to fight with? that kind of sucks |
| 23:16.22 | trh_ | or isnt XOR |
| 23:16.49 | rubik | hahah |
| 23:17.02 | ZealotOnAStick | ckknight: the positioning options for portrait, icons, etc., in Pitbull, they not implemented yet? |
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| 23:19.43 | Antiarc|Work | wowhead's hijacked/expired/something for me. |
| 23:20.15 | trh_ | maybe they couldn't pay their hosting bills ;) |
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| 23:22.45 | sbu | hmmm ckknight - how to 'add' new layouts? |
| 23:22.56 | sbu | i need some layout if i want to export stuff, right? :p |
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| 23:27.29 | CIA-22 | 03trh * r40923 10VanasKoS/ (13 files in 2 dirs): VanasKoS: minor performance tweaks, changes to the pvp data gathering |
| 23:30.56 | ckknight | sbu: I made a post about it |
| 23:31.02 | ckknight | ZealotOnAStick: they are. |
| 23:31.11 | ckknight | sbu: http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=6878.0 |
| 23:31.18 | ZealotOnAStick | Hrm. Then why are they all greyed out? |
| 23:31.45 | ckknight | ZealotOnAStick: for position, likely cause you put it on the left instead of the center |
| 23:31.57 | ckknight | for icons, because they're not shown, switch to config mode. |
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| 23:35.45 | ckknight | so I'm thinking of starting a new project |
| 23:35.56 | Antiarc|Work | "So, it seems Blizzard screwed up. Everyone who had gathered around 1800 rating for their arena teams have been granted the Gladiator title and the Swift Nether Drake to go along with it. The paladin in our 5v5 setup got 3 Swift Nether Drakes today, as he was also quite active in 2v2 and 3v3. I myself got both the Gladiator title (with the Drake) and the Duelist title." |
| 23:35.56 | ckknight | letting PitBull cool off for a little while |
| 23:36.02 | Antiarc|Work | (EU only) |
| 23:36.40 | abyssichate | what kind of project? |
| 23:36.40 | trh_ | Antiarc: didn't they screw up in US, too? |
| 23:36.55 | abyssichate | yeah but in EU they gave the drake to almost everyone |
| 23:36.56 | Kemayo | sylvanaar: What is this breakage of which you speak? |
| 23:37.07 | abyssichate | while in US people that should have had it didn't receive anything |
| 23:37.40 | ckknight | abyssichate: I have two things on my mind, and they correlate: (a) a Damage/Healing meter library (b) a tag-based tooltip addon |
| 23:38.06 | Chompers | a library :O |
| 23:38.17 | trh_ | abyssichate: lol.. they basically only have 2 choices left, take the dragon away, or give it to everyone for arena points ;) |
| 23:39.06 | ckknight | mho, they should take it away from people who didn't deserve it |
| 23:39.10 | Antiarc|Work | http://forums.wow-europe.com/thread.html;jsessionid=112E22172409AD8C755E816288AD021B.app03_05?topicId=298449859&sid=1 |
| 23:39.23 | Cryect | talking about the europe screwup? :-p |
| 23:39.25 | Chompers | a module for Violation or a completly seperate addon? |
| 23:39.26 | Antiarc|Work | And I agree, yes |
| 23:39.36 | Antiarc|Work | Nuke all the netherdrakes and titles and then give them to the people that deserve them |
| 23:39.46 | Cryect | yep agreed with that |
| 23:40.23 | ckknight | Chompers: separate library, theoretically, Violation/Assessment could use it after the fact |
| 23:41.07 | trh_ | i still don't understand what could be so complicated in calculating the top 0.5% teams |
| 23:41.13 | Cryect | who knows |
| 23:41.15 | trh_ | that blizzard screws up big time |
| 23:41.35 | Cryect | they try to throw in a quick fix for EU and its like they took the algorithm from the US then negated it |
| 23:41.39 | Primer | maybe they were using metric |
| 23:41.52 | abyssichate | I experienced a weird behaviour in Violation today by the way, after a local reset, a random guy was all of sudden generating - according to violation - a lot of damage while we were all idling instead; so there was this 'x' guy having 43900390943 damage |
| 23:41.52 | Cryect | damn metric stick to the english system! |
| 23:42.18 | Primer | 2^32 damage? |
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| 23:44.04 | abyssichate | just a random really high number |
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| 23:54.24 | ckknight | so... thinking of making a tooltip addon |
| 23:54.30 | ckknight | but what should I name it? |
| 23:54.44 | ckknight | I was thinking of Gazelle, as another off-the-wall name that has no correlation |
| 23:55.06 | Josh_Borke | why not finish pitbull? |
| 23:55.51 | Arrowmaster | so anybody goto wowhead.com recently? |
| 23:56.08 | Josh_Borke | Arrowmaster: yes, some people it works for, others it doesn't |
| 23:56.23 | Arrowmaster | it was working for me, now its a godaddy page |
| 23:56.31 | abyssichate | same for me |
| 23:56.34 | abyssichate | it doesn't seem to work |
| 23:56.55 | ag` | wtf wowhead |
| 23:57.14 | ag` | some spammer parked wowhead |
| 23:57.28 | Arrowmaster | huh? |
| 23:57.30 | Primer | naw, they've done this before |
| 23:57.31 | Josh_Borke | bye all |
| 23:57.39 | Arrowmaster | its a godaddy parked domain page |
| 23:57.43 | Primer | godaddy has hosed people's DNS records before |
| 23:57.47 | ckknight | what do you mean "finish"? |
| 23:57.47 | ckknight | addon's don't get finished |
| 23:57.47 | ckknight | they become stable |
| 23:57.47 | ckknight | at best |
| 23:57.47 | ckknight | and frankly, it's at a relatively good point right now |
| 23:57.49 | ckknight | just thinking I could do a tooltip addon, is all |
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| 23:58.09 | Eyes-t | Yo the new wowaceupdater is effin awesome, love the search tool |
| 23:58.14 | Kinkx | Antiarc - There was a team with 1700 rating that got a Armored Netherdrake + Titles >_< |
| 23:58.31 | Kinkx | Kind of a big screwup |
| 23:58.36 | Adirelle | night |
| 23:58.43 | ckknight | okay, I'ma do it, and I'll call it Gazelle, at least for now. |
| 23:59.33 | hyperChipmunk | aw, i liked CowTip |
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| 23:59.41 | ckknight | CowTip? |
| 23:59.41 | ckknight | hrm... |
| 23:59.46 | ckknight | that's not a bad name |
| 23:59.54 | Chompers | Tippy |
| 23:59.55 | ZealotOnAStick | Pointer. TipOff. |
