| 00:01.29 | *** kick/#wowace [NightHawkAtWork!n=staharaj@d14-69-214-77.try.wideopenwest.com] by hyperChipmunk (including tolerance for punk hosers like you) |
| 00:01.38 | *** join/#wowace NightHawkAtWork (n=nighthaw@static-71-121-241-67.sttlwa.dsl-w.verizon.net) |
| 00:01.40 | NightHawkAtWork | haha |
| 00:01.41 | *** join/#wowace Ominous_ (i=HydraIRC@81-178-247-103.dsl.pipex.com) |
| 00:01.41 | CIA-22 | 03bayi * r41815 10beql/ (beql.lua options.lua questlog.lua tracker.lua): |
| 00:01.41 | CIA-22 | beql |
| 00:01.41 | CIA-22 | - Minimize on tracker button is now smaller |
| 00:01.41 | CIA-22 | - Added update events to tracker (color should be updated now) |
| 00:01.41 | CIA-22 | - Changed the logic behind Header Colors: now u can set a completed header color even if u have HeaderQuestLevelColor check, but cant check HeaderQuestLevelColor without CustomHeaderColor checked |
| 00:01.43 | CIA-22 | - Adjusted tracker background to better fit if Mobmap loaded |
| 00:01.44 | Lyfe | y'know, i kinda wish there was an rss feed that had the last 10 (20? 30? not 700) changed mods and their changelog (for that version) available. |
| 00:01.47 | CIA-22 | - Variables DB now default uses "profile", all settings are shared between characters now |
| 00:02.08 | NightHawkAtWork | Lyfe: cia has an rss feed |
| 00:02.16 | Chompers | really :O |
| 00:02.20 | Lyfe | really? |
| 00:02.22 | hyperChipmunk | Lyfe: http://wowace.com/trac/log/?limit=500&mode=stop_on_copy&format=rss |
| 00:02.28 | NightHawkAtWork | Yeah. |
| 00:02.49 | hyperChipmunk | there's also a google group |
| 00:03.00 | Fin | also, Google Groups |
| 00:03.04 | Fin | look for wowace |
| 00:03.05 | Fin | yarr |
| 00:03.11 | hyperChipmunk | http://groups.google.com/group/wowace |
| 00:03.16 | hyperChipmunk | http://groups.google.com/group/wowace/feed/rss_v2_0_msgs.xml?num=200 |
| 00:03.26 | Fin | http://groups.google.com/group/wowace |
| 00:03.28 | Fin | bah! |
| 00:03.30 | Fin | I lose! |
| 00:03.38 | Fin | -5 points |
| 00:03.52 | hyperChipmunk | see what i mean about the 3 pages? |
| 00:04.01 | Nebucadnezar | lol |
| 00:04.10 | NightHawkAtWork | seriously |
| 00:04.29 | Nebucadnezar | That's what happens when you give a women an IRC account... |
| 00:04.39 | Nebucadnezar | They have to use all them words each day, ya know! |
| 00:05.12 | Mikk | Cryect: Yeah, but that's why I figured having recount get stats from e.g. Vio would be a good idea. I don't mind presenting my data to someone keeping detailed track of dps over periods of time etc etc. But I cba graphing it myself =) |
| 00:05.14 | Lyfe | is there a query for a single mod with that trac? |
| 00:05.16 | Fin | OK, fine, it's insult Fin day is it huh, well GOOD because I've been feeling bad about sleeping with your mum, this helps get rid of the guilt |
| 00:05.33 | Fin | hey that was quite good for me |
| 00:05.36 | CIA-22 | 03bayi * r41816 10beql/beql.lua: beql: version update |
| 00:05.38 | Nebucadnezar | Oh, so you are the charity case she has been talking about. |
| 00:05.45 | Fin | think I'll write that down |
| 00:05.56 | CIA-22 | 03strange * r41817 10FuriousRaid/ (7 files): |
| 00:05.56 | CIA-22 | FuriousRaid: |
| 00:05.56 | CIA-22 | - inital add of files |
| 00:06.11 | Nebucadnezar | Don't mess with the bull boy, you'll only get the horns... :-P |
| 00:06.21 | Fin | yes, I am! I'm the poor orphan boy who went to london to find my fortune... and all I found was your poor old mum walking the streets around King's Cross |
| 00:06.28 | Fin | oh I've got the horn |
| 00:06.39 | Nebucadnezar | Zip up your pants! |
| 00:06.44 | Fin | and I intend to leave the bull boy well alone |
| 00:06.48 | *** join/#wowace weab (n=asdf@cpe-70-112-136-88.austin.res.rr.com) |
| 00:06.50 | Fin | he's a bit horny too |
| 00:06.56 | Morghus | Noone that knows what's wrong? I'll repeat because that's so neat'n easy: A friend of mine has an odd problem with Bartender3. Main bar - 8 buttons, 3 stances ( pages ). Sometimes button 5-7 stops working, shows no tooltip and doesn't respond at all. The problem is gone if he switches stances. |
| 00:07.13 | Fin | Morghus: is she reusing Blizzard buttons? |
| 00:07.43 | Fin | untick that, it's reputed to cause the plagues and, heh, blizards |
| 00:07.56 | Fin | see what I did there? yeah? see that? |
| 00:08.27 | NightHawkAtWork | Fin: what, spell blizzards wrong? :P |
| 00:08.32 | Morghus | You mis-spelled blizzard |
| 00:08.33 | Morghus | :P |
| 00:08.43 | Fin | god damn grammer nazis |
| 00:08.47 | Morghus | Fin: No, that's not it. |
| 00:08.50 | Fin | godwin! |
| 00:08.51 | NightHawkAtWork | no, thats spelling nazis |
| 00:08.54 | Morghus | She's not reusing it |
| 00:08.59 | Nebucadnezar | Does the "cache" contain add-on information? In other words, do I need to delete the cache if I am deleting add-ons one by one |
| 00:09.01 | Fin | NightHawkAtWork: ITYM speling nazis |
| 00:09.21 | NightHawkAtWork | If we were grammar nazi's, we'd be remarking that 'see what I did there' lacks a proper subject, or.. object.. or.. I really have no idea, because i'm not a grammar nazi |
| 00:10.17 | Morghus | I wouldn't know grammar if it hit me. I'm pretty good at keeping things readable though ;) |
| 00:10.17 | Fin | NightHawkAtWork: instead, you point out a classic grammer mistake; now I get it |
| 00:10.17 | Nebucadnezar | He was just tooting that "horn" of his again! |
| 00:10.17 | Morghus | Fin: Do you have any other suggestions? =) |
| 00:10.39 | Fin | Morghus: sorry, no, I don't use paging |
| 00:11.21 | Morghus | Allright. Thanks anyways. I'll just suggest reinstalling and thrashing the saved variables. She's a bit lazy though, so I think she'll choose to just weather the bugs... >.> |
| 00:11.37 | NightHawkAtWork | Morghus: do those buttons always stop working on the same stance, or is it every stance that it happens to? |
| 00:11.39 | Fin | good luck |
| 00:12.06 | NightHawkAtWork | And do they respond to keybinds, or to nothing at all? |
| 00:12.12 | vhaarr | Gamefaq: Did you break koKR simpleMinimap? |
| 00:12.14 | vhaarr | Gamefaq: http://wowace.com/trac/changeset/41800 |
| 00:12.42 | NightHawkAtWork | If it's happening to every stance, and the buttons still respond to keybinds, it might be someweird frame being put on top of that area and catching mouse clicks. *shrug* |
| 00:12.49 | Gagorian | vhaarr: Sure looks like it :p |
| 00:13.08 | Morghus | NightHawkAtWork: No, no frames. I told her to move it, and print the frame. No change. |
| 00:13.21 | NightHawkAtWork | Ah, well, I'm out of ideas. :\ |
| 00:13.39 | Morghus | NightHawkAtWork: Thanks for trying atleast :) |
| 00:13.40 | NightHawkAtWork | switch to bongos. ;) |
| 00:13.45 | Morghus | I'll kick her for being lazy then :P |
| 00:13.52 | CIA-22 | 03strange * r41818 10FuriousRaid/: |
| 00:13.52 | CIA-22 | FuriousRaid: |
| 00:13.52 | CIA-22 | - corrected externals |
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| 00:14.29 | Morghus | Why change when what you have covers the need? ;() |
| 00:14.31 | Morghus | *;) |
| 00:15.17 | NightHawkAtWork | well, if its not working :P |
| 00:15.36 | CIA-22 | 03roartindon * r41819 10Aloft/ (Aloft.lua Modules/GroupTargetCountData.lua): |
| 00:15.36 | CIA-22 | Aloft |
| 00:15.36 | CIA-22 | - Fixes to GroupTargetCountData. Need to add in initial join/leave party handler sometime |
| 00:16.02 | NightHawkAtWork | Gah, and if this update doesn't finish in the next 20 minutes I'm going to say screw it, leave it running, and go home |
| 00:16.38 | CIA-22 | 03strange * r41820 10FuriousTask/: |
| 00:16.39 | CIA-22 | FuriousTask: initial commit |
| 00:16.39 | CIA-22 | - a fubar plugin to streamline raid healing assignments. |
| 00:16.52 | *** join/#wowace Gale^ (n=Gale212@85-210-238-17.dsl.pipex.com) |
| 00:17.19 | jme | so if i'm using svn to check out the addons i want to use, do i want to ignore externals like in the wiki? |
| 00:17.27 | jme | i'll only be updating once or twice a week |
| 00:17.47 | NightHawkAtWork | If you're running disembedded, then yes. Otherwise no. |
| 00:18.00 | jme | i don't even know how to run disembedded :) |
| 00:18.01 | NightHawkAtWork | But don't use subversion to check out addons if you're not actually doing development and/or testing. |
| 00:18.33 | jme | NightHawkAtWork: eh, ok, i just figured it'd be less of a hassle to update what i've got installed, since i can't use WAU (i'm on a mac) |
| 00:18.34 | NightHawkAtWork | use WAU, or one of several scripts to grab from files.wowace.com if you're just updating stuff you use. |
| 00:18.59 | NightHawkAtWork | jme: Kemayo has a python script that should work. There's a thread in the forums. |
| 00:19.18 | jme | NightHawkAtWork: i'll check it out, thanks |
| 00:19.21 | Morghus | According to her ( after she did some more testing ) empty buttons in one stance makes the buttons in the other stance become unresponsive. |
| 00:19.28 | Morghus | @ NightHawkAtWork |
| 00:19.54 | Morghus | ( a problem in combat ) |
| 00:20.14 | NightHawkAtWork | Morghus: thats weird, could be a bug in bt or something. *shrug* I don't use it so I really have no idea. |
| 00:20.37 | jme | NightHawkAtWork: i was in fact thinking about submitting a patch for bartender to use bongos' style of keybinding configuration, if it's even possible |
| 00:21.08 | Morghus | NightHawkAtWork: You don't happen to be the dev of Bongos, would you? =P |
| 00:21.12 | CIA-22 | 03strange * r41821 10FuriousTask/ (. FuriousTask.lua FuriousTask.toc): |
| 00:21.12 | CIA-22 | FuriousTask: |
| 00:21.12 | CIA-22 | - initial add of files and externals |
| 00:21.29 | Fin | haha! busted! |
| 00:22.02 | jme | i've got some decent coding experiene in ruby/python/php/C/java/shell scripting |
| 00:22.16 | *** join/#wowace Wobwork (n=Wobin@203-206-178-228.perm.iinet.net.au) |
| 00:22.16 | *** mode/#wowace [+v Wobwork] by ChanServ |
| 00:22.45 | NightHawkAtWork | Morghus: no, actually. Tuller does it. I just -really- like it :P |
| 00:22.45 | CIA-22 | 03strange * r41822 10FuriousWaitlist/: |
| 00:22.45 | CIA-22 | FuriousWaitlist: initial commit |
| 00:22.45 | CIA-22 | - a simple addon to track the raid's waitlist. |
| 00:23.01 | Wobwork | That addon sounds very... urgent =P |
| 00:23.12 | Wobwork | Or for very angry raiders, perhaps =P |
| 00:23.23 | hyperChipmunk | hehe |
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| 00:23.34 | hyperChipmunk | mornin' wob |
| 00:23.42 | Wobwork | mornin' chipper |
| 00:24.10 | Fin | FuriouslyRunningForTheLooMyGodThatChineseChilliChickenLastNightOoooh |
| 00:24.10 | hyperChipmunk | actually, it's late evening here |
| 00:24.10 | hyperChipmunk | moron |
| 00:24.16 | Nebucadnezar | Wooooot! |
| 00:24.18 | Wobwork | ~ugt |
| 00:24.18 | purl | hmm... ugt is Universial Greeting Time. Created in #mipslinux, it is a rule that states that whenever somebody enters an IRC channel it is always morning, and it is always late when the person leaves. The local time of any other people in the channel, including the greeter, is irrelevant. http://www.total-knowledge.com/~ilya/mips/ugt.html |
| 00:24.29 | Mikk | ~lart hyperChipmunk |
| 00:24.29 | purl | judo chops hyperChipmunk |
| 00:24.29 | hyperChipmunk | yea, but I entered 12h ago |
| 00:24.33 | hyperChipmunk | see |
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| 00:24.37 | *** mode/#wowace [+o nymbia] by ChanServ |
| 00:24.38 | Fin | sounds like you just fixed it, Nebucadnezar |
| 00:24.49 | Fin | or you also had chinese chilli chicken last night |
| 00:24.49 | Nebucadnezar | After hours of fighting with this stupid thing. It looks like it is one of the Cartograhper add-ons |
| 00:24.54 | Mikk | eya nymbs |
| 00:25.06 | CIA-22 | 03roartindon * r41823 10Aloft/Modules/TargetNameData.lua: Aloft: TargetNameData - fixed to us CancelScheduledEvent |
| 00:25.40 | Mikk | nymbia: Can I have your take on http://www.wowace.com/wiki/Talk:AddonLoader please? |
| 00:25.52 | CIA-22 | 03strange * r41824 10FuriousWaitlist/ (. FuriousWaitlist.lua FuriousWaitlist.toc): |
| 00:25.52 | CIA-22 | FuriousWaitlist: |
| 00:25.52 | CIA-22 | - added files and externals |
| 00:26.04 | Nebucadnezar | I am going to try and re-load all add-ons now except for the Cartographer ones and see if she stays stable. |
| 00:26.12 | jme | wow, nice use of eepanels: http://img392.imageshack.us/img392/6598/wowscrnshot061407132059xn0.jpg |
| 00:26.39 | Morghus | jme: How's that using eepanels? |
| 00:26.55 | jme | Morghus: it isn't? |
| 00:27.17 | Morghus | jme: I'm asking because I don't know :) |
| 00:27.26 | jme | Morghus: eepanels lets you set gradients like that, iirc. |
| 00:27.55 | nymbia | Mikk: sure, i'll check it out |
| 00:28.17 | Morghus | jme: Ah. Looks cool :) |
| 00:28.24 | jme | Morghus: i thought so :) |
| 00:28.37 | Morghus | jme: Is that FuBar, and icons only, at the bottom there, or? |
| 00:29.06 | jme | Morghus: pretty sure that's fubar, but i'm not sure how they got the menubar icons on there like that (next to the PvP icon) |
| 00:29.07 | NightHawkAtWork | Morghus: yeah, the bottom left looks like it |
| 00:29.38 | NightHawkAtWork | jme |
| 00:29.47 | NightHawkAtWork | er.. the main menu buttons is just a fubar plugin |
| 00:29.58 | jme | NightHawkAtWork: that's what i was thinking, i just didn't know which |
| 00:30.24 | Morghus | jme: FuBar_MicroMenuFu |
| 00:30.28 | NightHawkAtWork | yeah |
| 00:30.32 | jme | ah ha, thanks |
| 00:30.43 | NightHawkAtWork | Gah, alright. I'm heading home. later. |
| 00:30.47 | Morghus | It's pretty neat. Thought of using it for a while. Never got around to it .P |
| 00:30.49 | jme | NightHawkAtWork: later |
| 00:30.54 | Morghus | Take care |
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| 00:32.31 | Morghus | I never understood why people need to have level, class, and name on their own unit-frame. |
| 00:32.46 | Wobwork | Too severe a case of altitis? |
| 00:32.59 | jme | i rarely look at my own unit frame, i just use archud |
| 00:33.01 | Wobwork | I've often wondered "who the hell am I playing?" |
| 00:33.11 | jme | heh |
| 00:33.21 | nymbia | Morghus: it changes suddenly! i mean, take a look at KTM's code. >.> |
| 00:33.21 | Nebucadnezar | One step closer to heaven. All add-ons with exception of Cartographer adds are in and working. |
| 00:33.38 | Wobwork | rofl |
| 00:33.44 | Morghus | nymbia: I've heard. |
| 00:33.45 | Wobwork | I could suddenly become a hunter! |
| 00:33.51 | Nebucadnezar | Looks like I am going to have to kill a Cartographer add-on creator |
| 00:33.56 | Wobwork | IT COULD HAPPEN TO YOU! |
| 00:34.02 | *** join/#wowace RLD_osx (n=rldempse@66-169-191-207.dhcp.ftwo.tx.charter.com) |
| 00:34.04 | Morghus | Deep inside, everyone's a hunter. Just look at the loot around the world. |
| 00:34.07 | jme | Wobwork: i am a hunter :( |
| 00:34.16 | Wobwork | jme: oh no, it's too late =( |
| 00:34.28 | jme | Wobwork: i want to be something else now =/ |
| 00:34.37 | Wobwork | Too late =( |
| 00:34.43 | jme | reroll |
| 00:34.48 | Wobwork | At least you'll have a large weapon choice |
| 00:35.05 | CIA-22 | 03roartindon * r41825 10Aloft/ (5 files in 3 dirs): |
| 00:35.05 | CIA-22 | Aloft |
| 00:35.05 | CIA-22 | - Removed a number of redundant UnitExists checks |
| 00:35.06 | jme | ehh... i just use the crystalforged war axe for the stam |
| 00:35.16 | jme | i solod the entire game with 2h axes |
| 00:35.29 | jme | used my rage reaver until i got my crystalforged axe at 69 |
| 00:35.38 | Morghus | jme: You need to use Badge of Tenacity. Pet-armor ftw |
| 00:36.32 | *** part/#wowace Cairenn (n=Cairenn@MMOI/Administratrix/Cairenn) |
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| 00:36.49 | *** mode/#wowace [+o Cairenn] by ChanServ |
| 00:42.43 | CIA-22 | 03mikk 07Mikk * r41826 10Ace2/AceConsole-2.0/AceConsole-2.0.lua: |
| 00:42.43 | CIA-22 | AceConsole-2.0 (Mikk): |
| 00:42.43 | CIA-22 | - Make AceOptions console handler not barf out on option groups whose names are numbers (e.g. "/violation windows 1 show") |
| 00:43.03 | Lywellyn | what's the orange part of the CIA message? |
| 00:43.24 | jme | orange? |
| 00:43.34 | jme | oh.. must not show up in irssi |
| 00:43.48 | Mikk | Parent directory name no? |
| 00:44.13 | nymbia | that's so brown |
| 00:44.15 | Lywellyn | I know that from seeing a previous one, you're working on a branch, does that have something to do with it? |
| 00:44.26 | durcyn | that's a branch. |
| 00:44.29 | Mikk | That one was /branches/Ace2/Mikk/AceConsole-2.0 |
| 00:44.33 | durcyn | non-trunk, rather |
| 00:45.18 | hyperChipmunk | it's gold here! |
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| 00:45.27 | Mikk | orange here :> |
| 00:45.28 | hyperChipmunk | and it does show up on irssi, if your console supports colors |
| 00:46.04 | jme | hyperChipmunk: Terminal.app here |
| 00:46.23 | Mikk | set your termapp to ANSI |
| 00:46.28 | JoshBorke | hi |
| 00:46.34 | Mikk | black background + colors ftw |
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| 00:50.34 | CIA-22 | 03mikk * r41827 10Violation/ (Violation.lua locales/enUS.lua): |
| 00:50.34 | CIA-22 | Violation: |
| 00:50.34 | CIA-22 | - Add a "Show Windows" toggle to the Windows menu that's linked to db.showWindows. Might clear up some confusion for some people, and also allows it to be used from console |
| 00:50.34 | CIA-22 | - Make showing a previously-unshown window force "Show Windows" on. |
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| 00:52.55 | ckknight | hey all, back from work |
| 00:53.06 | Keias | hi |
| 00:53.21 | ckknight | jme: pong |
| 00:53.26 | ckknight | Antiarc|Work: pong |
| 00:53.27 | jme | ckknight: nevermind :) |
| 00:53.40 | jme | http://tinyurl.com/364frj <- how did he get the action buttons on fubar, or what is that? :/ |
| 00:53.44 | ckknight | symian: I accept your mad props. |
| 00:53.54 | ckknight | Gnarfoz: yes |
| 00:54.12 | ckknight | Kemayo: srsly? how was it my fault? (wrt Quixote leak) |
| 00:54.28 | ckknight | jme: no idea |
| 00:54.31 | Harem | Is there a way to get a changelog for a mod before you download it? |
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| 00:56.24 | ZealotOnAStick | jme: that's just a small fubar section next to a row of buttons on a texture |
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| 00:57.15 | Mikk | Now all I want is to be able to link Vio windows together in columns or lines so that they size and move together, and keep stuck together in the column if I decide to show fewer bars.... but that's so horribly fluffy :S |
| 00:57.54 | nymbia | were crashes from pitbull supposed to be fixed now? or was that 2.2? |
| 01:00.31 | Fin | 2.3 I thought |
| 01:00.39 | Fin | 2.1.3 I mean? |
| 01:01.18 | Fin | http://www.blue.cardplace.com/newcache/us/110644023.htm |
| 01:01.28 | Fin | "The crash log posted by ckknight is fixed for 2.1.3. Can you post links to the other crash logs so we can verify they're the same problem?" |
| 01:01.36 | nymbia | ah |
| 01:01.51 | ckknight | nymbia: you get a crash? |
| 01:01.57 | nymbia | ckknight: constantly |
| 01:02.01 | ckknight | weird |
| 01:02.04 | ckknight | *shrug* |
| 01:02.15 | ckknight | I never get em :-P |
| 01:02.20 | nymbia | ckknight: every time i turn pitbull on, now. it's a lot worse than it was in 2.1.0 :( |
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| 01:06.46 | nymbia | ckknight: i actually only had one or two EVER before 2.1.2 >.< |
| 01:06.53 | ckknight | okay |
| 01:07.00 | ckknight | so you just get to wait till 2.1.3 |
| 01:07.03 | nymbia | yeah |
| 01:07.24 | nymbia | a guildie just said updating vid drivers fixed it for him so i'll try that |
| 01:11.00 | Fin | new nvidia drivers out, apparently |
| 01:11.33 | boh | ckknight: did you have the time to spot what's wrong with [Zone]? |
| 01:11.40 | moltarain | fin windows drivers? |
| 01:11.44 | ckknight | no, I had work, boh |
| 01:11.52 | boh | oh, my nickname |
| 01:12.03 | ckknight | if you would be willing to pay me for my time, I'll look at it |
| 01:12.28 | abyssichate | I didn't mean that in an arrogant way, I was just asking you |
| 01:12.36 | Fin | [01:35:59] < Antiarc|Work> http://www.nzone.com/object/nzone_downloads_rel70betadriver.html <--- new nVidia beta drivers today |
| 01:12.39 | Fin | [01:38:10] < Antiarc|Work> http://us.download.nvidia.com/Windows/162.15/162.15_Win_XP_ForceWare_Release_Notes.pdf <-- 72-page image-heavy PDF warning |
| 01:13.18 | ckknight | I need to take a shower |
| 01:16.38 | Fin | can I add a small nil check to BT3 and commit it? |
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| 01:17.29 | Fin | this is probably my fault, but: http://fin.pastey.net/69109 |
| 01:17.40 | Fin | (tried to index "tooltip", nil) |
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| 01:25.06 | Mikk | Fin: I'm unsure that a nil check is the answer there |
| 01:25.35 | Mikk | Unless you know for sure that "tooltip" is supposed to be able to be nil |
| 01:25.59 | Fin | Mikk: I just realised that I don't think it *was* me - I didn't even hook any functions or register any events with my tooltip stuff yet |
| 01:26.11 | Fin | I *was* dicking with tooltips though, so it's highly suspicious |
| 01:26.21 | Fin | but I can't see where, without hooking or registering anything |
| 01:26.32 | Thrae | The only time you should be unsure of the value is when you're using the WoW API or FrameXML. |
| 01:26.48 | Thrae | Never trust either one. |
| 01:27.00 | Thrae | Especially WoW API functions which query the server. |
| 01:27.10 | JoshBorke | Thrae: i don't trust your code |
| 01:27.21 | Thrae | JoshBorke: This from the man who made WhoMod! |
| 01:27.33 | Thrae | Don't worry -- my code trusts you. |
| 01:27.33 | JoshBorke | ;-) |
| 01:27.43 | JoshBorke | excellent |
| 01:27.46 | Thrae | At the top it says, "In JoshBorke We Trust" |
| 01:29.49 | CIA-22 | 03shamino * r41828 10EnchantingSell/ (8 files): (log message trimmed) |
| 01:29.49 | CIA-22 | EnchantingSell: |
| 01:29.49 | CIA-22 | - implemented the default database for enUS clients. use /es ImportDefaultDB |
| 01:29.49 | CIA-22 | - implemented the exporting of your enchants and reagents. typical used for assisting with localization. use /es CreateDefaultDB |
| 01:29.50 | CIA-22 | - moved fubar/minimap config to seperate lua |
| 01:29.51 | CIA-22 | - /es show will launch ES now |
| 01:29.55 | CIA-22 | - added coloring to enchant lines, which is used to determine which enchants can be performed. |
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| 01:30.08 | ckknight | alright, back |
| 01:30.38 | Fin | left, front? |
| 01:32.21 | Fin | do I need to securely hook GameToolTip:Show? I don't know how to tell |
| 01:32.36 | JoshBorke | no |
| 01:32.46 | JoshBorke | why are you hooking Show? |
| 01:32.47 | Aenslaed | what mod is it that is adding these red glowing borders to my screen when I am tanking? |
| 01:32.51 | Aenslaed | its reaaaaaaally annoying :/ |
| 01:33.01 | Shamino | i think you will receive an error if you try |
| 01:33.02 | Aenslaed | and i dont have la vendetta/DBM installed |
| 01:33.12 | Thrae | Fin: You hook OnShow, not the Show function itself. |
| 01:33.13 | JoshBorke | Aenslaed: Bonzai? VitalWatch? |
| 01:33.25 | Fin | Thrae: great, thank you kindly |
| 01:33.37 | Aenslaed | JoshBorke: bonzai from pitbull yeah. Is that what is doing it? |
| 01:33.43 | JoshBorke | perhaps |
| 01:33.46 | Fin | JoshBorke: to add something to the tooltip |
| 01:34.04 | Thrae | fin: Are you adding this always? |
| 01:34.15 | Fin | Thrae: it's not a fixed string |
| 01:34.30 | Thrae | fin: No, I mean are you adding this for units, spells, items, etc. tooltips? |
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| 01:35.01 | Fin | Thrae: I'm trying to get a player's main name displayed if the user has linked their character name to a main, and possibly a list of alts (ie the other way round) |
| 01:35.12 | Fin | for the AltNames module in Prat |
| 01:35.13 | JoshBorke | so only units? |
| 01:35.19 | Thrae | Fin: Then hook OnTooltipSetUnit script |
| 01:35.21 | Fin | only players |
| 01:35.38 | Fin | what's wrong with hooking OnShow? |
| 01:35.49 | JoshBorke | because it gets called for items too? |
| 01:35.54 | Thrae | Fin: Because GameTooltip is reused for ALL types of tooltips -- items, spells, money, etc. |
| 01:36.23 | Thrae | OnTooltipSetUnit exists for a reason, and your usage is -exactly- that reason. You add/change the line, then call GameTooltip:Show() to resize the tooltip. |
| 01:36.26 | Fin | hey, since you're actually responding (even without asking!), I have a question |
| 01:36.44 | Thrae | name,unitId = GameTooltip:GetUnit() |
| 01:37.13 | Fin | thanks, Thrae, I will do that - I asked about this before though, Cryect was very helpful in giving me some basics on how tooltips worked but I'm not sure he knew about OnTooltipSetUnit |
| 01:37.19 | Fin | my question, btw |
| 01:37.29 | Fin | is now moot, actually |
| 01:37.29 | JoshBorke | cryect is a scrub imo |
| 01:37.40 | Fin | is that sarcasm or something? |
| 01:37.47 | Thrae | Me and ckknight are the tooltip enthusiasts ;) |
| 01:37.57 | JoshBorke | hey! i've played with them too |
| 01:38.14 | art3mis | you added "tip" by mistake there |
| 01:38.14 | ckknight | Thrae: still having a bitch of a time parsing tooltips, though. |
| 01:38.14 | Fin | yeah, well, I asked ckknight first, and he didn't seem too interested in explaining stuff to another uneducated noob like me |
| 01:38.17 | Fin | which is fair enough |
| 01:38.19 | nymbia | ok question two |
| 01:38.27 | nymbia | who borked pitbull auras |
| 01:38.31 | ckknight | Fin: actually I wasn't paying attention cause I was so tired, I passed out shortly after |
| 01:38.38 | ckknight | nymbia: not it |
| 01:38.50 | ckknight | nymbia: haven't touched em in a while, check svn log |
| 01:39.04 | Thrae | ckknight: Tooltips are pretty buggy really -- there's a lot going on behind the scenes that isn't properly reported. I need to do more testing with 2.0 now. |
| 01:39.07 | Fin | also, it should be bloody ToolTip(), took me about half an hour to figure that out |
| 01:39.15 | Fin | ckknight: I'm not accusing you of anything |
| 01:39.20 | ckknight | Thrae: trying to figure out faction is a bitch. |
| 01:39.36 | Fin | glad to hear you slept though :) |
| 01:40.04 | Thrae | Actually, AF_Tooltip's code was pretty much correct, which is what I started with and haven't really changed since :D |
| 01:40.11 | Thrae | Just need to remember to not rely on the reactionNum |
| 01:40.38 | Fin | (my question was, how do I know when it's over a player - I went and read on WoWWiki something about the first line containing the list of players the mouse is over, so I strsplit the first line and hoped to get it from there... was just about to try and test it :) |
| 01:40.54 | Thrae | Pets sometimes show up as hostile though...but their nametags are also hostile, so I left it the way it is. Damn server bugs. |
| 01:41.13 | Fin | yeah, pets do that sometimes, it's weird |
| 01:41.30 | Fin | (5 points to art) |
| 01:41.47 | Thrae | Fin: _, unitId = GameTooltip:GetUnit(); if UnitIsPlayer(unitId) then print("Unit is player!") end |
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| 01:42.20 | Thrae | GameTooltip:GetUnit() is new in 2.1, probably not documented in Wowwiki |
| 01:42.27 | Fin | Thrae: just out of curiosity, but is what I was trying to do what used to be the way to do it? |
| 01:42.31 | Fin | Thrae: no, it's not |
| 01:42.40 | Fin | I specifically went looking for exactly that |
| 01:42.57 | Thrae | Actually, it's older then 2.1, but it now returns a unitId instead of just the name -- that was the change in 2.1 (before, it was pretty much useless in my opinion) |
| 01:43.06 | Fin | I even read the 2.0 patch notes, I didn't think they'd introduce something so nice in a point release |
| 01:43.23 | Fin | bah, so close |
| 01:43.30 | Thrae | Fin: A second return of the unitId was added in 2.1, that's what I meant |
| 01:43.30 | Fin | I still wouldn't've been hooking the right function though |
| 01:44.10 | Fin | how comes FuBar's tooltips don't work in combat then, if it's not a secure function? |
| 01:44.13 | Fin | errr |
| 01:44.14 | Fin | thingy |
| 01:44.28 | Thrae | Dewdrop is not a tooltip, it just looks like a tooltip. |
| 01:44.40 | Fin | OK |
| 01:45.05 | Fin | I take it tooltips can't be expanded in the same way functionally as Dewdrop, then |
| 01:45.29 | Fin | as in, make them clickable and shit |
| 01:45.29 | Thrae | No, you can't click on things inside tooltips to my knowledge |
| 01:45.30 | JoshBorke | expanded? |
| 01:45.42 | JoshBorke | no because they are all fontstrings |
| 01:45.45 | Thrae | That's not what tooltips are for... |
| 01:46.09 | Fin | does it seem as though that's what I'm implying? |
| 01:46.35 | Fin | I've got a brand new combine harvester |
| 01:46.45 | JoshBorke | dewdrop is for dropdown menus i thought whereas tablet is for clickable tooltips? |
| 01:46.55 | JoshBorke | pseudo tooltips :-D |
| 01:47.08 | Thrae | Both look kinda like tooltips to me |
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| 01:47.17 | JoshBorke | well you should try opening your eyes thrae |
| 01:47.25 | JoshBorke | or use whomod, it has tooltips to tell you |
| 01:47.35 | Fin | do you label them in whomod? |
| 01:47.38 | Thrae | WhoMod made me blind =/ |
| 01:47.39 | Fin | "THIS IS THE TOOLTIP" |
| 01:47.40 | JoshBorke | exactly |
| 01:47.51 | Fin | "TOOLTIP 1" |
| 01:47.51 | JoshBorke | i SetScale(100) first |
| 01:48.25 | Fin | my god... so simple, yet so ingenious |
| 01:48.36 | Fin | it's like wings on panty liners |
| 01:48.45 | JoshBorke | i'm gifted, what can i say? |
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| 01:50.55 | Fin | I'm hooking GameTooltip:Clear() as well btw |
| 01:51.07 | Fin | I'm sure there's something wrong with that too, no? |
| 01:51.10 | Thrae | Fin: Say hello to OnTooltipCleared |
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| 01:51.29 | Fin | Thrae: what's the difference? or can I read this somewhere? |
| 01:51.40 | Thrae | Fin: But if you're just adding text, you don't need to bother, as GameTooltip:Hide() automatically clears the tooltip. |
| 01:52.00 | Thrae | adding/altering |
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| 01:52.16 | Fin | Thrae: it's more so that I can tell when to unset the flag which tells me the tooltip's been modified |
| 01:52.44 | Fin | Thrae: WoWWiki recommends calling :Show() after using :AddLine() to fix the fact that the line will initially show outside the border |
| 01:53.02 | Thrae | Fin: Why do you need to know when the tooltip has been modified besides when a unit has been added to it? |
| 01:53.06 | Fin | and tooltips are always breaking, tooltip addons constantly dick with each other |
| 01:53.23 | Fin | Thrae: I need to know when my module has modified it |
| 01:53.25 | CIA-22 | 03totalpackage * r41829 10InFlight_Load/InFlight_Load.lua: |
| 01:53.25 | CIA-22 | InFlight_Load |
| 01:53.25 | CIA-22 | - added Skyguard honored flightpath, untested |
| 01:53.55 | Fin | Thrae: so I don't add a duplicate line, after another addon calls :Show() (or whatever) to fix something |
| 01:54.10 | Fin | maybe I don't need to anymore, but I know I'm getting duplicate lines in some of the addons I'm using atm |
| 01:54.24 | Fin | mendeleev, AdSpace I think |
| 01:54.30 | Thrae | If you're doing an AddLine() then Show() in a hooked OnTooltipSetUnit, you will be fine. Of course, the hook will be in the order of addons loaded, but if there's a popular addon that's interfering, you can put its name in OptionalDeps to load it before your addon, or add it to LoadWith to make sure your addon is loaded -after- the offending addon. |
| 01:54.51 | Fin | actually it's an AddDoubleLine then |
| 01:54.54 | Fin | -then |
| 01:55.01 | Thrae | Same thing in this case. |
| 01:55.49 | Thrae | Or you could wait until I finish up TinyTipModuleCore and make it a TinyTip module ;) |
| 01:55.59 | Fin | Thrae: it was more of a general protection against my addon adding duplicate lines for some reason, that's all - setting a flag when adding the line, then clearing it on :ClearLines() or whatever, seems like an OK precaution |
| 01:55.59 | JoshBorke | don't listen to Thrae |
| 01:56.11 | JoshBorke | waiting on him is like waiting on something really slow |
| 01:56.14 | Fin | Thrae: I did try TinyTip from your SVN |
| 01:56.31 | Fin | it was not working at the time |
| 01:56.39 | Fin | and I'd love to make it a module! |
| 01:57.46 | Thrae | Fin: The way GameTooltip works is this. Anytime the game engine adds something to the tooltip (SetUnit, SetItem, etc.), the tooltip gets cleared. Show() resizes the tooltip for your own AddLine/AddDoubleLine calls. Hide() clears all lines and hides the tooltip. |
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| 01:59.19 | Thrae | The reason you're getting double lines is probably before you were hooking OnTooltipSetUnit. As other unit tooltip addons do their work in OnTooltipSetUnit, two Show()s will be called -- one by the game engine, and one by the tooltip addon to resize the tooltip after the tooltip addon adds / changes the text in the tooltip. |
| 01:59.52 | Thrae | Hence, hooking OnShow will give you multiple lines, as its most likely called multiple times for a single SetUnit. |
| 02:00.14 | Fin | Thrae: I'm not actually getting double lines yet :) I haven't got that far - but other addons do show double lines, and I've seen it quite often in the past - that's why it seemed sensible to add something to prevent that, especially after reading about using :Show() to reset the border |
| 02:00.30 | Thrae | Those other addons probably aren't hooking the right functions ;)_ |
| 02:01.23 | Fin | heh, I wouldn't be surprised :) but I'd hate to write something that suffered from symptoms of one of those things that's been annoying me every time I see it :) |
| 02:01.36 | Thrae | The reason slouken makes us manually call Show() is because internally Show() iterates over ALL tooltip items to make sure the width and height is correct (from my knowledge). |
| 02:01.59 | Thrae | So calling that on every single AddLine/AddDoubleLine doesn't make sense. AppendText DOES call Show, though. |
| 02:02.24 | Thrae | (although I'm pretty sure it just resizes, doesn't actually trigger OnShow) |
| 02:03.37 | Thrae | Now why does slouken iterate over all the font strings? Because you can change the text in the font strings, and even their size, so he has to take that into account. |
| 02:04.13 | Thrae | Hence, using Show() for resizing does make sense to me. Though I'd also like Resize() ;) |
| 02:04.57 | vithos | so our 1 warlock at VR just summoned himself, took a port, and then his wow crashed |
| 02:05.21 | vithos | gl2us 23manning |
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| 02:06.15 | Kaydeethree | meh. our very first VR kill was a 24-man |
| 02:06.20 | Kaydeethree | <3 loot pinatas |
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| 02:07.17 | Fin | Thrae: thanks for your help |
| 02:07.31 | Fin | Thrae: I wish you were around earlier :) |
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| 02:12.43 | Lyfe | anyone know what compression level they use for the zip archives on files.wowace.com? |
| 02:13.58 | Mikk | pastamancer will know |
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| 02:21.36 | Fin | so, Thrae, I'm curious - is how I was *trying* to do it how it was done before (find out if the mouseover tooltip is a player by getting the first line of the tooltip text, then the first item seperated by \ns)? |
| 02:21.44 | Lyfe | just curious, why would pastamancer know? did he setup the stuff for creating the archives? |
| 02:21.55 | Fin | he's Mr. f.w.c |
| 02:22.03 | Mikk | Lyfe: he's the current maintainer of files.wowace yeah |
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| 02:22.20 | Lyfe | ok. |
| 02:22.23 | Fin | I promised I would do something for the svn logs as well, I never got round to it |
| 02:22.43 | Mikk | Fin: What? |
| 02:22.59 | Mikk | i'm fiddling some commit hooks atm |
| 02:23.04 | Kaydeethree | so does that mean you gained 5 points? |
| 02:23.34 | Fin | Mikk: I said I'd try and get something working where you can see logs for the actual addon, rather than the embeds |
| 02:23.44 | Fin | hmm, maybe |
| 02:24.07 | Fin | but if you're pedantic enough to care, you also lose points |
| 02:24.16 | Mikk | haha |
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| 02:25.43 | Orthwein | hey guys, I'm written a wow ace updater, anyone willing to give it a shot? |
| 02:25.44 | Fin | aha, OnTooltipSetUnit *is* a secure function |
| 02:25.52 | Antiarc | Another one? |
| 02:25.58 | Orthwein | fraid so |
| 02:26.05 | Orthwein | java based, I hated all the current ones ;) too ugly |
| 02:26.15 | Antiarc | I'd give it a shot, but sourceplz ;) |
| 02:26.21 | Orthwein | and none showed me changelogs before updating, so I can see if I want to update or not |
| 02:27.04 | Orthwein | http://aceupdater.googlecode.com/files/aceupdater.jnlp |
| 02:27.14 | NightHawkTheSane | java's lame. |
| 02:27.16 | Orthwein | (assuming you have java5 or later installed) |
| 02:27.23 | Orthwein | perhaps so, but it'll work on linux/mac/win |
| 02:27.26 | NightHawkTheSane | wtb obj-c/cocoa plzkthx |
| 02:27.40 | Orthwein | NightHawkTheSane: there's a cocoa updater, but it's pretty, uhm, crap |
| 02:27.46 | NightHawkTheSane | yeah, sadly. |
| 02:28.06 | Orthwein | and unmaintained I think. I wouldnt have written mine if it was decent ;) |
| 02:28.13 | NightHawkTheSane | Actually, tbh, I have contempt for every script/app/whatever i've seen except for the one I wrote, and probably Kemayo's |
| 02:28.25 | Orthwein | fair enough! |
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| 02:28.29 | ckknight | NightHawkTheSane: WAU2 is written in Java |
| 02:28.36 | Orthwein | it is?! |
| 02:28.39 | NightHawkTheSane | ckknight: i know. |
| 02:28.47 | Orthwein | I thought wua is windows only |
| 02:28.53 | ckknight | Orthwein: WAU. |
| 02:28.54 | NightHawkTheSane | 1.x is |
| 02:29.04 | NightHawkTheSane | as it's a C# .NET pos. |
| 02:29.08 | Orthwein | yeah |
| 02:29.13 | NightHawkTheSane | but 2.0, which is in beta now, iirc, is java |
| 02:29.19 | Orthwein | there's this but it's pretty fugly http://code.google.com/p/jwowupdater/ |
| 02:29.22 | Orthwein | url for 2.0? |
| 02:29.35 | NightHawkTheSane | ask Kaelten |
| 02:29.40 | Orthwein | I hope mine is pretty, if nothing else ;) |
| 02:29.45 | NightHawkTheSane | or possibly KarlThePagan, I think he works on it too |
| 02:30.09 | RaydenUnicyclist | why has no one downloaded wowaceupdater 1.9.15 ? |
| 02:30.23 | Kemayo | ckknight: When you added the new/del stuff to Quixote you did a non-recursive del of something with nested tables. |
| 02:30.32 | NightHawkTheSane | unless wau2 is stunningly phenomenal, I'll probably stick with my perl scripts |
| 02:30.46 | ckknight | Kemayo: ah, okay |
| 02:31.08 | Orthwein | the one feature that annoys me is the lack of changelog preview before updating that all the updaters have in common |
| 02:31.14 | Kemayo | Still undeniably better than before, but... :) |
| 02:31.35 | Orthwein | sometimes it's kinda handy seeing a commit msg that says 'temporarily breaking X, so watch out!' before updating |
| 02:32.12 | NightHawkTheSane | Orthwein: yeah, although there's rss feeds, and CIA-22 in here that helps with taht |
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| 02:32.58 | Orthwein | rss is too, uhm, intrusive, I dont want to know every update, I want to view them right before updating, and I dont want to sub to 20 feeds for my various plugins (nor one big one for everything, too many plugins I dont care about) |
| 02:33.16 | NightHawkTheSane | fair enough |
| 02:33.19 | Orthwein | anyway, if this is just useful to me then so be it, maybe my needs are too weird/niche, no biggie |
| 02:33.36 | NightHawkTheSane | I leave an rss feeder running constantly for the dozenish other feeds I read, so another one isn't much of a hassle |
| 02:33.45 | NightHawkTheSane | nothing wrong with niche ;) |
| 02:34.03 | Orthwein | yeah I'm picky about what gets on my rss, feel guilty if too many unread articles stay there ;) |
| 02:34.35 | NightHawkTheSane | yeah, I kinda do too. I've pared it back a lot. About the only feed that really gets left unread now is DailyKos |
| 02:34.47 | Orthwein | so anyway, if anyone wants to give it a shot that'd be great, if anyone wants new features then I'll add em, etc etc |
| 02:35.02 | Orthwein | figured safer to ask on irc before getting beaten up in the forums |
| 02:35.20 | Orthwein | NightHawkTheSane: hahaha, same! |
| 02:35.26 | Fin | hahah, nice one Orthwein |
| 02:35.31 | Orthwein | NightHawkTheSane: too many angry/irrelevant/long posts |
| 02:35.46 | Funkeh` | later |
| 02:35.47 | NightHawkTheSane | Orthwein: lol, yeah. I like the content, but there's a lot of posts, and they're all like a page long :P |
| 02:36.05 | Orthwein | yes, and half of them are like 'WE MUST DO X' or 'X IS NOT A DEFEAT IF YOU REALLY THINK ABOUT IT' |
| 02:36.12 | Orthwein | (right after every defeat) |
| 02:36.23 | NightHawkTheSane | yeah. and the other half just get me annoyed at the idiocy of politics :P |
| 02:36.27 | Orthwein | yeah |
| 02:36.37 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r41831 10DogTag-1.0/DogTag-1.0/DogTag-1.0.lua: DogTag-1.0 - fixes to [Faction] and [Zone] |
| 02:36.38 | Orthwein | they kinda give liberals a bit of a bad name |
| 02:37.03 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r41832 10CowTip/Text/Text.lua: CowTip_Text - better handling of tooltips with/without factions |
| 02:37.35 | NightHawkTheSane | eh, *shrug*. As far as liberals go, I'm pretty extreme, so I don't mind it quite as much. :) |
| 02:37.43 | RogueShadow | ckknight: Almost ready for skinning difficulty or did I forget to update? |
| 02:37.47 | Orthwein | fear not, I'm pretty extreme too |
| 02:37.56 | ckknight | RogueShadow: it should work with that commit |
| 02:38.05 | RogueShadow | ok. updating. |
| 02:38.06 | Orthwein | mind you, eu centrist == us crazy leftie |
| 02:38.11 | ckknight | Orthwein: me too, but way in the other direction |
| 02:38.16 | ckknight | :-P |
| 02:38.21 | Orthwein | ckknight: damn you! |
| 02:38.24 | ckknight | <--- Libertarian |
| 02:38.30 | Orthwein | oh that'snot so bad |
| 02:38.44 | Orthwein | would have had to boycott your addons if you were a crazy fundie |
| 02:38.46 | jme | omen looks freaking beautiful btw |
| 02:38.50 | ckknight | fundie? |
| 02:38.51 | Cryect | Heh, can't think of a good way to handle some addon loading Parser-3.0 without ensuring they have SW_FixLogStrings loaded first |
| 02:38.55 | Orthwein | fundamentalist |
| 02:38.58 | Orthwein | christian jobbie |
| 02:39.06 | RogueShadow | WAU is updated almost as much as ace addon's |
| 02:39.06 | ckknight | no, I have my own crazy beliefs. |
| 02:39.25 | Cryect | WAU is updated more than most ace addon's |
| 02:39.32 | Orthwein | thats fine, libertarians dont tend to want to set fire to other people, so they're alright |
| 02:39.37 | ckknight | Orthwein: the whole left/right divide is fucked up in America anyway |
| 02:39.44 | ckknight | the right used to be all about small government |
| 02:39.47 | ckknight | and now that's completely off |
| 02:39.49 | Cryect | Just need less government |
| 02:39.52 | Lywellyn | Oooh, I see fixes to [Zone], I must go download and test! :D |
| 02:39.53 | Orthwein | ckknight: you mean far right/extreme right ;) |
| 02:39.55 | ckknight | since they took all three houses |
| 02:40.13 | Cryect | far right has come to mean more far religious right now >_> |
| 02:40.17 | ckknight | Orthwein: no, I don't, and you're fucking up my point and deterring away from it. |
| 02:40.25 | RogueShadow | small government. yes america was always meant to be a republic. small government. |
| 02:40.27 | Orthwein | sorrysorry |
| 02:40.46 | ckknight | RogueShadow: right, and the right side of politics has strayed away from that far too much since 2001 |
| 02:40.49 | RogueShadow | Voting was supposted to mean more than. republican or democrat. |
| 02:40.59 | ckknight | before, they never had a real taste of government power |
| 02:41.09 | RogueShadow | Now we have that stupid vote for all or nothing crap. |
| 02:41.11 | ckknight | at least to a point where the left wouldn't get in their way |
| 02:41.12 | Orthwein | well fundamentally a two party system is dumb |
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| 02:41.26 | RogueShadow | It was never meant to be this way from the beginning. |
| 02:41.30 | ckknight | since then, they realize that the power of a federal government was much stronger than any "state's rights" |
| 02:41.33 | RogueShadow | It just kinda ended up that way. it's sad. |
| 02:41.39 | ckknight | which is a very bad thing for the people of America in general |
| 02:41.44 | Fin | not for the two parties, Orthwein |
| 02:41.53 | RogueShadow | anway. ya testing ... ya... lol |
| 02:42.03 | Orthwein | Fin: most people dont fit into either |
| 02:42.09 | ckknight | Orthwein: yea, much of that I lay at the problems with the Australian ballot |
| 02:42.22 | CIA-22 | 03shamino * r41833 10EnchantingSell/ (4 files): |
| 02:42.22 | CIA-22 | EnchantingSell: |
| 02:42.22 | CIA-22 | - increased size of the drag bar |
| 02:42.22 | CIA-22 | - changed the OnEnter function of the enchant list rows. Shift will show the item tooltip, Alt will show the color schemes |
| 02:42.26 | Fin | Orthwein: I'm not sure that's relevant |
| 02:42.44 | ckknight | RogueShadow: btw, test the skinning thing. |
| 02:42.50 | Lywellyn | So...if I download CowTip with externals, will the embedded DogTag update too? And also: If I download DogTag-1.0 as a standalone lib, will it take precedence over embedded ones? |
| 02:42.56 | Kalman| | Neat. This afternoon we had a DKP argument, and now we have politics! |
| 02:42.59 | ckknight | yes, Lywellyn |
| 02:43.11 | ckknight | Lywellyn: to both |
| 02:43.12 | Lywellyn | Yes to both? |
| 02:43.13 | Orthwein | so no feedback on my dumb little updater? |
| 02:43.14 | Lywellyn | okay :D |
| 02:43.16 | NightHawkTheSane | Kalman|: we can do religion next, for the bad-idea-trifecta! |
| 02:43.24 | Nemes_ | ckknight: have you had a chance to look at those pitbull aura changes I made? |
| 02:43.29 | ckknight | Orthwein: I don't use updaters, especially from liberals (jk) |
| 02:43.33 | Fin | sorry Orthwein, I really am allergic to java |
| 02:43.34 | ckknight | Nemes_: sure didn't |
| 02:43.35 | Kalman| | NightHawkTheSane: Can we do sports for dessert? |
| 02:43.41 | ckknight | Nemes_: well, I perused them |
| 02:43.44 | Cryect | I think API's would be more controversial in this channel than relgion or politics :-p |
| 02:43.45 | ckknight | Nemes_: you still got the links? |
| 02:43.46 | Orthwein | ckknight: dammit, I wish you didnt have so many decent addons, or I'd say the same |
| 02:43.49 | NightHawkTheSane | Kalman|: sounds like a plan! |
| 02:43.59 | Fin | also I predict that you'll have to be a lot more persisitent before you get a decent amount of feedback :) |
| 02:43.59 | Nemes_ | ckknight... brb |
| 02:44.05 | ckknight | Orthwein: manifest destiny |
| 02:44.08 | Orthwein | Fin: heh |
| 02:44.13 | Orthwein | ckknight: stfu |
| 02:44.17 | NightHawkTheSane | Cryect: heh, were you here for the vicious discussion of svn policies? :P |
| 02:44.18 | ckknight | lol |
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| 02:44.26 | Cryect | Gladly no |
| 02:44.38 | Hjalte | Huh.. Religion? What's wrong with restraining yourself because of a God that no-one's ever seen. Nothing I tell you! ... |
| 02:44.43 | Orthwein | manifest destiny is responsible for all thats fucked up in the world |
| 02:44.50 | Fin | Cryect: do you have scrollback? Thrae has been educating me on Proper Tooltippery |
| 02:44.54 | ckknight | Orthwein: um, no, just no. |
| 02:44.56 | RogueShadow | ckknight: I don't see it. |
| 02:44.59 | Nemes_ | diff: http://ace.pastey.net/65275 Aura.lua: http://ace.pastey.net/65277 |
| 02:45.00 | ckknight | Orthwein: there are plenty of things worse. |
| 02:45.04 | ckknight | RogueShadow: blast. |
| 02:45.09 | Orthwein | ckknight: well ok, religion perhaps is worse |
| 02:45.11 | ckknight | RogueShadow: I don't have a skinner... |
| 02:45.16 | Orthwein | but manifest destinyc comes a close second |
| 02:45.19 | ckknight | Orthwein: arguable |
| 02:45.22 | Cryect | Well, I do is it anything of real interest? I'm sure he should be an expert on them (or I would hope!) |
| 02:45.23 | RogueShadow | ckknight: my skinning is 244 |
| 02:45.31 | Fin | Cryect: not that I in any way am less grateful for your help |
| 02:45.35 | Cryect | hehe |
| 02:45.42 | Mikk | Orthwein: You mean religion is responsible for Spandau Ballet and nosehair trimmers? o.O |
| 02:45.47 | ckknight | Orthwein: what about government intrusion on private property? that's pretty fucked up, imho |
| 02:45.58 | Orthwein | Fin: bah, in my day we were grateful when anyone gave us an app and told us they'd add our requests to it. Kids these days! So spoilt! |
| 02:46.00 | Fin | Cryect: basically, use OnTooltipSetUnit and OnTooltipCleared |
| 02:46.14 | Cryect | Oh didn't know there was tooltip event! |
| 02:46.19 | Cryect | Only issue |
| 02:46.21 | Fin | Orthwein: er, yeah, that was when there wasn't 5 different updaters to choose from already |
| 02:46.28 | Fin | no offence mate |
| 02:46.29 | Orthwein | ckknight: nonsense. That's the point of the law, to decide what the government can and cant do |
| 02:46.29 | RogueShadow | ckknight: nto to pile things on or anything. I also use MobInfo2, and when I use it, it appears fine, but a second later it vanishes, and your tooltip remains unchanged |
| 02:46.31 | Cryect | is uh what if you want ot work something that isn't Units? |
| 02:46.33 | Orthwein | ckknight: and laws are driven by society |
| 02:46.39 | Cryect | is there an OnTooltipShow? :-p |
| 02:46.41 | Fin | Cryect: no, this is specific to units |
| 02:46.42 | ckknight | RogueShadow: hrm. |
| 02:46.44 | Cryect | ah k |
| 02:46.51 | ckknight | Orthwein: whose law? your law? |
| 02:46.56 | Orthwein | ckknight: and society can decide that its in its own best interest to sometimes allow that intrusion, just as it can decide that there's a speed limit, even if it fucks with your idea of having fun on the highway |
| 02:47.00 | Fin | Cryect: apparently also only really usable since 2.1? |
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| 02:47.06 | ckknight | Orthwein: that's not a society I want to be in. |
| 02:47.15 | Orthwein | ckknight: go be a hermit then in india |
| 02:47.16 | Cryect | Yeah, as I said before I hadn't worked much with adding things to other people's tooltips (more concerned about my own) |
| 02:47.26 | Cryect | good to know though |
| 02:47.34 | ckknight | Orthwein: why do that? I just disagree with overbearing taxation |
| 02:47.35 | Orthwein | ckknight: you can probably find yourself a fair distance from the law and without much government interference in a good selection of third world countries |
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| 02:47.49 | nymbia | ckknight: oddly enough, that video card driver fixed my pitbull crash.. so if you get anyone else whining about the same problem, have em try that |
| 02:47.53 | Orthwein | ckknight: you consume service from those taxes though |
| 02:47.55 | ckknight | nymbia: ATI? |
| 02:47.56 | Fin | Cryect: well, neither have I worked much with other people's tooltips :P |
| 02:48.04 | nymbia | ckknight: nvidia |
| 02:48.04 | CIA-22 | 03grayhoof * r41834 10Proximo/ (Proximo.toc frame.lua install.txt readme.txt): Proximo: First official release |
| 02:48.06 | ckknight | Orthwein: I'd rather not pay and not consume |
| 02:48.10 | ckknight | nymbia: hrm. |
| 02:48.19 | Orthwein | ckknight: you'd have way more roving bands of homeless peons |
| 02:48.31 | ckknight | homeless = lazy |
| 02:48.33 | Orthwein | ckknight: I actually think the tax system is stupid too, mind you |
| 02:48.36 | ckknight | Orthwein: it'd suit my means better to stay in America and abuse corporate tax law to get around it. |
| 02:48.45 | Fin | I think this is about the time someone normally makes a comment about passing butter, popcorn etc. |
| 02:48.47 | Orthwein | ckknight: nonsense. Is a third world child born in extreme poverty also lazy? |
| 02:48.56 | Kalman| | fin: I'll make popcorn, go get us some soda. |
| 02:48.56 | Fin | see, I'm better because I metapopcorn |
| 02:49.01 | ckknight | Orthwein: some are, but mostly I see it as governmental systems keeping them down. |
| 02:49.22 | Orthwein | ckknight: this might be news to you, but all of us here are here through luck, not personal achievement |
| 02:49.25 | ckknight | Orthwein: lack of proper free trade preventing their uplifing in society |
| 02:49.26 | NightHawkTheSane | s/rhit/this/ |
| 02:49.28 | ckknight | uplifting* |
| 02:49.30 | Zicon | fin: I would, but I have a feeling it's just as well to just back slowly out of the channel... |
| 02:49.34 | ckknight | Orthwein: not me! |
| 02:49.44 | Orthwein | we were all lucky enough to be born into societies where we can play stupid games and not worry about basic necesities |
| 02:49.55 | Orthwein | and if you think that's personal achievement then that's pretty fucked up. |
| 02:50.03 | Fin | Zicon: channel? what channel? can you speak up please! |
| 02:50.04 | ckknight | Orthwein: actually, going back to the religion issue, I am under the belief that we all choose our parents |
| 02:50.17 | Zicon | Ohhh yes. |
| 02:50.19 | Orthwein | you would, just to find some new way to give yourself extra credit! |
| 02:50.39 | ckknight | Orthwein: it's about responsibility for all of one's life, not blaming one's circumstances |
| 02:50.44 | ckknight | don't be a victim |
| 02:50.45 | Orthwein | defy the universe and claim personal credit for every good thing that ever happens, just so you can feel smug about the poor shits that havenot! |
| 02:50.47 | ckknight | be responsible. |
| 02:51.03 | RogueShadow | ckknight: Neutral (yellow) NPC's should be in that "other" category for background coloring right? And Hostile (red) npc's is just as it says. the hostile setting for background? |
| 02:51.04 | hyperChipmunk | I blame nymbia |
| 02:51.10 | NightHawkTheSane | everyone blames nymbia |
| 02:51.15 | ckknight | RogueShadow: depends on if you can attack em or not |
| 02:51.15 | Fin | is it his turn? |
| 02:51.22 | Orthwein | ckknight: so you think that if you were born in some godforsaken third world country, in poverty, you'd have still 'succeeded'? |
| 02:51.25 | Morghus | Does NightHawkTheSane still consider nymbia a beast? Oo |
| 02:51.28 | ckknight | those "poor shits" should have some way to uplift themselves, even if it takes hard work |
| 02:51.32 | NightHawkTheSane | Fin: not today, today it's your turn. |
| 02:51.36 | Orthwein | ckknight: actually, they often dont |
| 02:51.42 | Orthwein | ckknight: 90% of humanity does not |
| 02:51.44 | ckknight | going back to the laziness issue |
| 02:51.48 | Orthwein | including many in the US, oddly enough |
| 02:51.51 | ckknight | yes, the point is to be placed in a situation and raise yourself above it |
| 02:51.51 | RogueShadow | ckknight: ok, so that's what defines it? Can you add an option (or explain to me where it is) to change coloring based on hostility? if it will attack me or not. |
| 02:52.03 | Orthwein | it's not lazy. Yes, you'll always find some turd on Oprah who overcame incredible odds to do blahblah |
| 02:52.05 | ckknight | RogueShadow: bah, fine |
| 02:52.13 | RogueShadow | ckknight: lol thanks. |
| 02:52.18 | Orthwein | but what you dont hear about is the other 99 shits who didnt make it, because life was just too hard |
| 02:52.20 | Fin | hoo boi, so soon as well, it feels like only yesterday I was blamee |
| 02:52.27 | Fin | on a wall? |
| 02:52.52 | ckknight | Orthwein: see, I'm under the belief that most people can do something and are too weak to, whereas you're under the belief that they just can't so don't bother |
| 02:52.57 | ckknight | RogueShadow: put it in the wish list, would you? |
| 02:53.02 | Orthwein | its a game of percentages, born lucky increases your percentage of doing alright, born in a crappy situations means you have a far higher mountain to climb. Assuming both sides put in equal effort, those born in good situations are more likely to succeed |
| 02:53.11 | RogueShadow | ckknight: Sure. Let me go find it.... |
| 02:53.18 | Orthwein | peoples stations dont change much in life, despite what social conditioning tells you |
| 02:53.19 | ckknight | Orthwein: best to try as hard as you can, then? |
| 02:53.45 | Orthwein | ckknight: uhm |
| 02:53.57 | CIA-22 | 03antiarc * r41835 10Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0.lua: Threat-1.0: Fixed a bug in _setThreat that prevented global threat TPS calculations and caused massive RAM usage inflation |
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| 02:54.08 | Morghus | Gah. Anyone know how to remove the coolDown minimap icon? Oo |
| 02:54.24 | ckknight | Orthwein: oh, so my mom didn't come from a shit-poor farm and become an extremely good gereontologist, and my dad didn't come from an extremely poor automotive shop and start his own corporation here in the states? |
| 02:54.29 | ckknight | Orthwein: they both overcame obstacles. |
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| 02:54.43 | Mikk | But what if "hard enough" to get a kid out of poverty and to a bearable living was the same effort as you being president of the US? So why aren't you president? |
| 02:54.48 | Orthwein | ckknight: well, both of those facts point out that you're a silverspoon kid who got it all through sheer luck |
| 02:54.58 | Orthwein | ckknight: and they were lucky enough to be born in the US |
| 02:55.14 | ckknight | Orthwein: both immigrants |
| 02:55.15 | ckknight | me too |
| 02:55.19 | Cryect | ckknight: Curious is it possible even if the version is less or equal for a library still to register and upload a new one (thinking up potential solutions to the SW_FixLogStrings issue) |
| 02:55.20 | Orthwein | ckknight: pfft. me too. |
| 02:55.23 | ckknight | I only recently become naturalized |
| 02:55.28 | Orthwein | I'm not. |
| 02:55.34 | Mikk | s/US/western country/ |
| 02:55.35 | ckknight | Orthwein: except that I don't believe in inheriting money from my parents as well, and I don't plan to...ever |
| 02:55.36 | Orthwein | and I'm a 1st gen immigrant, my parents didnt |
| 02:55.41 | Mikk | whoups |
| 02:55.49 | Orthwein | ckknight: your parents value education, that's sheer dumb luck on your part |
| 02:56.01 | Kalman| | You're both wrong. Happy? |
| 02:56.02 | Orthwein | ckknight: all credit to them, they beat the odds. You're benefitting. Sheer dumb luck. |
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| 02:56.06 | ckknight | Cryect: what I could do is have Parser-3.0 fix all the values before SW_FixLogStrings |
| 02:56.25 | NightHawkTheSane | Kalman|: actually, in all seriousness, they are both wrong :P |
| 02:56.26 | ckknight | Orthwein: I'm sorry, but I believe that humanity has potential to overcome the odds through hard work |
| 02:56.38 | Kalman| | NightHawkTheSane: I know, but neither one of them is gonna admit it. :) |
| 02:56.39 | ckknight | you're just a pessimist |
| 02:56.39 | Orthwein | ckknight: yes, and society can change the exact amount of hard work |
| 02:56.46 | Orthwein | Kalman|: oi |
| 02:56.49 | NightHawkTheSane | nope, they won't. but i can respect that :P |
| 02:56.53 | Orthwein | NightHawkTheSane: how am I wrong? |
| 02:56.57 | ckknight | NightHawkTheSane: I don't see how I'm wrong./ |
| 02:57.02 | Cryect | ckknight: I was thinking of detecting if the global vars have been tainted and then just reload, the problem with fixing them yourself is other addons don't know what they have to make as optional dependency |
| 02:57.03 | Mikk | hahaha |
| 02:57.04 | Kalman| | Because some people really are lazy. And some people really do get screwed. |
| 02:57.08 | Mikk | Q E D |
| 02:57.09 | Orthwein | hey I'm willing to admit it if you make a compelling argument ;) |
| 02:57.10 | NightHawkTheSane | because you're both arguing from the outer extreme |
| 02:57.12 | Orthwein | Kalman|: yep |
| 02:57.14 | Orthwein | Kalman|: agreed. |
| 02:57.19 | ckknight | Kalman|: oh yea, circumstances can happen, I know |
| 02:57.21 | NightHawkTheSane | reality lies somwhere in between :P |
| 02:57.22 | Cryect | ckknight: but the current problem is a lot of parser-3.0 addons don't set SW_Stats as an optional dependency |
| 02:57.26 | ckknight | but I don't think that 99% of people get fucked. |
| 02:57.32 | Kalman| | ckknight: They happen a lot more frequently than you think. |
| 02:57.34 | Orthwein | NightHawkTheSane: well yeah, but when confronted with an extemist, being a moderate is kinda...boring! |
| 02:57.44 | ckknight | Cryect: I could just fix the strings before SW_Stats, thus having em both work |
| 02:57.46 | NightHawkTheSane | Yeah, it is :p |
| 02:57.51 | Roartindon | Cryect: I don't think it should be addons that use SW_Stats as a dependency |
| 02:57.56 | Morghus | There's probably quite a few people out there that makes plenty sure -someone- gets fucked over for their own benefit ;) |
| 02:57.58 | Orthwein | I hate swstats |
| 02:58.00 | ckknight | Kalman|: meh |
| 02:58.04 | Orthwein | and I wish violation worked worth crap |
| 02:58.22 | Kalman| | ckknight: This is perspective based on growing up in auto country during the 80s, and volunteering/having family in social services. |
| 02:58.23 | Roartindon | Cryect: If it's something between Parser-3 and SW_Stats, then it needs to be fixed at the Parser-3 level |
| 02:58.29 | Kalman| | Some people are lazy. But a *lot* of people get screwed. |
| 02:58.32 | Cryect | Roartindon: I don't think it should be either but at the moment thats breaking other addons if not all that use it |
| 02:58.34 | Orthwein | swstats looks even worse than dmgmeters, and for a shallow person like me, looks are hugely important |
| 02:58.44 | Orthwein | Kalman|: agreed |
| 02:59.09 | ckknight | Cryect: you should actually answer me. |
| 02:59.11 | Orthwein | Kalman|: its an age/environment thing, people who are monocultural/young/not well travelled/priviliged think its all hard work ;) |
| 02:59.14 | ckknight | Orthwein: meh, I'm tired of arguing |
| 02:59.26 | NightHawkTheSane | In the final estimate, it probably comes out to somewhat of a balance. about half the people are lucky, the other half get fucked, about half the people work hard, the other half don't. 8shrug* |
| 02:59.27 | Orthwein | me too!~ |
| 02:59.34 | Orthwein | I just want feedback on my stupid updater |
| 02:59.44 | Orthwein | NightHawkTheSane: boooring |
| 02:59.52 | Kalman| | Boring, but accurate. |
| 02:59.53 | NightHawkTheSane | Orthwein: maybe, but probably correct :) |
| 02:59.53 | Orthwein | and someone to maybe explain why violation is so ass |
| 03:00.08 | ckknight | ur ass |
| 03:00.11 | NightHawkTheSane | Orthwein: what don't you like about it? |
| 03:00.11 | ckknight | burn! |
| 03:00.17 | Orthwein | NightHawkTheSane: well, it doesnt work |
| 03:00.22 | Orthwein | that's mostly the problem |
| 03:00.27 | Kalman| | Pretty sure it does... |
| 03:00.32 | Cryect | ckknight: heh, yes I should. One thing you could do is delay for a little bit deleting ConvertGlobalStrings() check if SW_Stats has tainted the global variables if it has then delete your old pattern data and recreate it again then delete ConvertGlobalStrings then |
| 03:00.33 | NightHawkTheSane | I'd say it worked last time I checked, but in all honesty, I havn't logged in in like a week. |
| 03:00.50 | Orthwein | in fact, that's entirely the problem. It shows seemingly random values, and often decides that one person has done 1 mil damage and everyone else 0 |
| 03:00.57 | Orthwein | its a bit of a partypooper, all in all |
| 03:00.58 | Cryect | or if its already pretainted it on first gen go ahead and delete it hten |
| 03:01.07 | CIA-22 | 03nemes 07Nemes * r41836 10CandyBar-2.0/ (. CandyBar-2.0.lua): Fix for http://www.wowace.com/trac/ticket/1168 |
| 03:01.20 | ckknight | Cryect: so you know, if Parser-3.0 handles it first, SWStats does nothing to the strings. |
| 03:02.07 | Orthwein | do any of its authors hang out here? |
| 03:02.20 | Cryect | ckknight: yes, I know but what if someone is using an addon that knows how to handle SWStats fixing it but would load before a Parser-3.0 addon and this person isn't using SWStats? |
| 03:02.21 | NightHawkTheSane | Orthwein: all of them do, i believe |
| 03:02.48 | ckknight | Cryect: *shrug* |
| 03:02.48 | Orthwein | k, I guess I'll ambush one of them at some point then and flail helplessly in their general direction |
| 03:02.56 | Thorgard | Orthwein, as far as I can tell it works fine. ;P |
| 03:03.07 | Orthwein | Thorgard: in groups where everyone uses dmgmeters/swstats? |
| 03:03.42 | Thorgard | Orthwein, yeah, as far as I can tell, with the 'Spy on' for those enabled. |
| 03:03.49 | Orthwein | mmh |
| 03:03.53 | Orthwein | will give it another shot then |
| 03:04.07 | Morghus | Orthwein: What's the problem? |
| 03:04.29 | Orthwein | Morghus: it starts off fine, then gets confused at some point and shows one person to be waaaay ahead of everyone else |
| 03:04.40 | Orthwein | and resetting it fixes it for a bit, but then it poops itself again |
| 03:04.45 | Morghus | Not solely a reset-issue then |
| 03:05.05 | Orthwein | no, it might be getting broadcast from someone else and misparsing it or something? |
| 03:05.06 | Morghus | As in the SWStats and Damagemeter-people resetting, and you getting wonky info |
| 03:05.10 | Orthwein | yep |
| 03:05.14 | Orthwein | that's likely |
| 03:05.27 | Orthwein | or getting syncs from them |
| 03:05.44 | Morghus | I've seen the same. I'm getting HUGE dps from this shadow-priest .P |
| 03:05.49 | Orthwein | yeah! |
| 03:05.52 | Orthwein | phew, glad its not just me |
| 03:06.13 | Orthwein | for me its rogues, and if a rogue can outdps me I'll eat my helmet |
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| 03:06.37 | Morghus | Warrior? =) |
| 03:06.41 | Orthwein | lock ;) |
| 03:07.31 | Mikk | you should meet our combat rogue :S |
| 03:07.42 | NightHawkTheSane | hmm |
| 03:07.44 | Mikk | scary guy |
| 03:07.45 | NightHawkTheSane | i'm kind of bored. |
| 03:07.47 | Wobwork | Is he a nice chap? |
| 03:07.47 | CIA-22 | 03totalpackage * r41837 10Cellular/core.lua: |
| 03:07.47 | CIA-22 | Cellular |
| 03:07.47 | CIA-22 | - readded block for DBM whisper messages |
| 03:08.05 | Mikk | he outputs lolwtf amounts of damage, that's for sure |
| 03:08.14 | Orthwein | its temporary until everyone else finishes off their t4 sets, in my case ;) |
| 03:08.17 | Morghus | Results like that vary alot. At ours it's between me ( druid ), rogue, and a warrior |
| 03:08.27 | CIA-22 | 03antiarc * r41838 10Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0.lua: Threat-1.0: Optimization to :NewEncounterMob() |
| 03:09.14 | Fin | I'm having a problem that I'm a bit embarassed to ask about, but I think it would be better if I just ask, so: how do I properly hook OnTooltipUpdate? all the examples I can find seem to just do self:OnTooltipUpdate, I can't see how they hook it or register it or whatever |
| 03:09.43 | ckknight | Fin: local orig = GameTooltip:GetScript("OnTooltipUpdate") |
| 03:10.04 | rophy | Cryect: adding SWStats as OptDeps to every possible addon seems not a very good solution? |
| 03:10.07 | Fin | this is one of the biggest problems I've found about using Ace2 stuff, I don't really understand how much is going on below with AceHook and stuff |
| 03:10.10 | ckknight | GameTooltip:SetScript("OnTooltipUpdate", function(this, unit, ...) orig(this, unit, ...) --[[ my stuff ]] end) |
| 03:10.13 | Fin | ckknight: thank you kindly |
| 03:10.50 | Fin | that's not a criticism of Ace2, though, more my ignorance |
| 03:11.05 | ckknight | Fin: this is one of the biggest problems with C, I don't know what everything's going on with ASM :-P |
| 03:11.11 | ckknight | etc. |
| 03:11.27 | RogueShadow | woo, I just used the wishlist. |
| 03:11.28 | Fin | ckknight: like I said, not a criticism |
| 03:11.36 | Fin | :) |
| 03:11.36 | ckknight | yea, I typed it before you said that |
| 03:11.39 | Cryect | rophy: agreed, would be preferrable if its handled on the library level (ParserLib I would say it handles it pretty well and the people with issues it looks to be in Parser-3.0 backwards compatibility mode) |
| 03:11.41 | Fin | oh, heh |
| 03:11.41 | ckknight | :-P |
| 03:12.05 | Fin | let's not |
| 03:12.07 | Fin | please |
| 03:12.08 | Roartindon | Isn't there also HookScript in AceHook? |
| 03:12.09 | ckknight | Cryect: I didn't know that ParserLib even handled that... |
| 03:12.14 | Cryect | it does |
| 03:12.17 | rophy | Cryect: yes ParserLib wasn't affected by SWStats, the Parser-3.0 compat mode does. |
| 03:12.20 | ckknight | Mikk: I know like 20 languages... |
| 03:12.28 | Fin | please? I'll pay |
| 03:12.29 | ckknight | rophy: how's that? you delay processing? |
| 03:12.29 | Cryect | It doesn't load globalvars till the first time they are used |
| 03:12.31 | Fin | :) |
| 03:12.39 | Mikk | yer, i just stated the dependency chain up to ace :> |
| 03:12.48 | ckknight | Cryect: ah, I could do that with Parser-3.0 |
| 03:12.49 | Cryect | When it sees they need to be used the first time it loads just those ones |
| 03:12.57 | ckknight | Mikk: oh, fair enough. |
| 03:13.01 | rophy | I said ParserLib load the patterns on demand and luckily avoided the effect, ckknight. |
| 03:13.08 | Cryect | ckknight: either that or you could delay loading slightly |
| 03:13.18 | ckknight | Cryect: meh, rophy's idea seems good. |
| 03:13.33 | Cryect | ckknight: well you get to save a little more memory by unloading those functions when you are done |
| 03:13.39 | ckknight | well, that happens now |
| 03:13.41 | rophy | iirc I said that long time ago back when you were trying to mess with FixLogStrings. |
| 03:13.49 | ckknight | must not've heard |
| 03:13.54 | rophy | may be. |
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| 03:14.37 | Lyfe | anyone tell me offhand who works on WAU? |
| 03:14.51 | Mikk | Lyfe: Sylvanaar for 1.9, Kaelten for 2.0 |
| 03:14.54 | hypetech | we've been noticing the sync on sw_stats hasn't been accurate for us since last tuesday's reset, anybody know if anything changed that would cause this? |
| 03:15.03 | Lyfe | so, 1.9.15 is sylvanaar? |
| 03:15.19 | ckknight | what's the lowest level mob that I can skin? |
| 03:15.26 | Cryect | uh 1 |
| 03:15.27 | ckknight | RogueShadow: GScript? |
| 03:15.29 | RogueShadow | I |
| 03:15.32 | RogueShadow | graal script |
| 03:15.34 | RogueShadow | don't ask. scary |
| 03:15.37 | RogueShadow | lol |
| 03:15.43 | ckknight | RogueShadow: why can't I skin this damn Tallstrider? |
| 03:15.43 | Cryect | you can skin like boars |
| 03:15.46 | RogueShadow | Thank goodness you dont' knwo the game. |
| 03:15.58 | Mikk | RogueShadow: Learn LOLCODE. for great justice. |
| 03:16.13 | Morghus | ckknight: Either you haven't learned skinning, or it's not looted :P |
| 03:16.19 | Morghus | Or you're missing a skinning knife |
| 03:16.23 | Cryect | Do you have a skinning knife/ |
| 03:16.28 | Cryect | and Morghus beats me to it |
| 03:16.34 | RogueShadow | Yeah the knife. |
| 03:16.36 | RogueShadow | lol |
| 03:16.49 | RogueShadow | well and skinning level |
| 03:16.51 | Morghus | Did someone remember to mention a skinning knife? |
| 03:16.53 | RogueShadow | you said you don't have a skinner |
| 03:16.59 | RogueShadow | try something like a rabbit |
| 03:17.09 | Cryect | good old leather scraps |
| 03:18.05 | Thorgard | Anyone know what the KTM in 'KTM threat meter' stands for? ;P |
| 03:18.14 | Cryect | Kenco |
| 03:18.17 | Morghus | Kenco's ThreatMeter? |
| 03:18.20 | Wobwork | Kenco's Threat Meter |
| 03:18.21 | RogueShadow | You guys know AlexanderYoshi right? |
| 03:18.22 | Cryect | and its actualy KLH Threat Meter |
| 03:18.23 | Mikk | KLH Threat Meter |
| 03:18.28 | Wobwork | oh true |
| 03:18.31 | Mikk | KLH is Kenco somethingsomething |
| 03:18.43 | Wobwork | Kenco's Lookoutyou'reaHunter Threat Meter |
| 03:18.44 | Cryect | and no one knows the L and H as far as I know besides Kenco |
| 03:18.48 | Mikk | RogueShadow: know? not really. talked to. |
| 03:18.59 | hyperChipmunk | Wobwork: rofl |
| 03:19.08 | Morghus | Kenco's Lovin' Hoes Threat Meter! |
| 03:19.12 | RogueShadow | Well I knew of him from a game called Graal he dabbled in for a long time. |
| 03:19.22 | RogueShadow | He did Gscript a lot |
| 03:19.25 | Thorgard | nuts. |
| 03:19.31 | Wobwork | pistachio nuts |
| 03:19.38 | Wobwork | white pistachio nuts |
| 03:19.43 | Morghus | Wobwork: That's good stuff |
| 03:19.46 | CIA-22 | 03rophy * r41839 10ParserLib/ParserLib-1.1/ParserLib.lua: |
| 03:19.47 | CIA-22 | ParserLib: |
| 03:19.47 | CIA-22 | - always save combat log to info.message. |
| 03:19.47 | CIA-22 | - added spell steal patterns, they're currently counted as 'dispel' and might change when I got some more info about these patterns. |
| 03:19.50 | Roartindon | I heard that KLHTHreatMeter was Kenco-Lightning Hoof-Threat Meter |
| 03:19.54 | Wobwork | Pine nuts |
| 03:20.01 | Roartindon | (Lightning hoof being the server he was on when he wrote it) |
| 03:20.21 | Wobwork | Pecan nuts |
| 03:20.23 | RogueShadow | That does make sense. |
| 03:20.26 | JoshBorke | rophy: quit breaking stuff :-P |
| 03:20.38 | Morghus | Roartindon: That makes sense. Oddly enough. You're breaking the "magic" of it! |
| 03:20.39 | Morghus | :P |
| 03:20.45 | Morghus | It's not supposed to make sense |
| 03:20.51 | rophy | JoshBorke: these changes have been in my comp for 2 weeks, hopefully won't :p |
| 03:20.51 | CIA-22 | 03cryect * r41840 10Recount/ (GUI_Detail.lua Recount.lua): Recount - Slight fix and message change if in Parser-3.0 compatibility mode |
| 03:20.57 | rophy | ..hopefully |
| 03:21.12 | Wobwork | I used to be able to name every nut that there was. And it used to drive my mother crazy, because she used to say, "Harlan Pepper, if you don't stop naming nuts," and the joke was that we lived in Pine Nut, and I think that's what put it in my mind at that point. |
| 03:21.48 | rophy | dont worry, just blame the parser-3.0 compat mode when anything breaks! |
| 03:21.50 | JoshBorke | Cryect: you get my pings about recount not saving my texture options? |
| 03:22.03 | ckknight | rophy: :-P |
| 03:22.03 | Morghus | Wobwork: That's a pretty cool name, and a pretty nutty knowledge ( 'scuse the pun :P ) |
| 03:22.10 | JoshBorke | you probably fixed it a while ago and i just haven't updated :-D |
| 03:22.32 | Cryect | JoshBorke: Uh no, I've heard from someone else an issue for some reason with their settings not getting saved for like filtering |
| 03:22.36 | Wobwork | Morghus: You should go watch "Best in Show" ) |
| 03:22.46 | Wobwork | Very funny mockumentary |
| 03:23.04 | Wobwork | (Which was where the quote was from =)) |
| 03:23.10 | JoshBorke | Cryect: yes, the Recount frame is not using the texture settings. when i go to options the texture is set there but not in effect in the main frame |
| 03:23.14 | Cryect | JoshBorke: heh though i can say I just tested and did a RL and it saved them fine so might be an issue with an old version? |
| 03:23.15 | JoshBorke | reselecting the texture enables it |
| 03:23.22 | Cryect | JoshBorke: okay thats strange |
| 03:23.24 | JoshBorke | probably an old version then :-) |
| 03:23.27 | Morghus | Wobwork: Google's got it? =P |
| 03:23.36 | JoshBorke | can no longer test as i don't have an active account :-D |
| 03:23.37 | RogueShadow | Wobwork: Is a peanut a nut |
| 03:23.42 | Cryect | haha :) |
| 03:23.44 | Wobwork | http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0218839/ |
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| 03:28.33 | Morghus | Wobwork: That looks really cool :D |
| 03:29.52 | CIA-22 | 03nemes 07Nemes * r41841 10CandyBar-2.0/CandyBar-2.0.r35348.diff.txt: Fix for http://www.wowace.com/trac/ticket/1168 |
| 03:31.17 | ckknight | RogueShadow: it's a legume |
| 03:31.37 | RogueShadow | ckknight: Indeed |
| 03:31.40 | Antiarc | Ok, that's one problem solved. |
| 03:31.58 | ckknight | Antiarc: ? |
| 03:32.12 | Antiarc | When Threat calls a TriggerEvent, it gets credited for the garbage generated by things that handle the event |
| 03:32.40 | Antiarc | (In performancefu) |
| 03:32.45 | ckknight | hrm |
| 03:32.58 | Antiarc | So I've got some mad string creation happening in an Omen method that handles that event |
| 03:33.07 | ckknight | yea, cause of the damn tainting system |
| 03:33.09 | Antiarc | And Threat's memory usage skyrockets while Omen hangs out in the +8kb range |
| 03:33.17 | Kaelten | ok, if everything works properly I just limited file types uploadable to the svn |
| 03:33.25 | Antiarc | Hooray! |
| 03:33.33 | Morghus | JoshBorke: PitBull_BarFader is still throwing an error :) |
| 03:33.39 | JoshBorke | huh? |
| 03:33.41 | JoshBorke | error? |
| 03:33.44 | JoshBorke | what? |
| 03:34.00 | Morghus | The one I've linked to you in /msg atleast twice the last week :P |
| 03:34.17 | JoshBorke | you must not be registered or something |
| 03:34.21 | JoshBorke | i don't recall any messages :-D |
| 03:34.30 | Antiarc | But at least I know which method to optimize now. |
| 03:34.37 | Antiarc | Oh, ckknight |
| 03:34.48 | Antiarc | Check out the bottom of Threat-1.0.lua when you get a chance |
| 03:34.49 | ckknight | hrm? |
| 03:34.54 | Kaelten | we went with a whitelisting method |
| 03:35.00 | Antiarc | Basically, I threw a hack in to unregister a comm prefix on lib upgrade |
| 03:35.08 | Kaelten | so if its not on my list of allowed extensions you'll get a errro |
| 03:35.09 | Morghus | JoshBorke: Sent a /msg now. You didn't receive it? |
| 03:35.20 | JoshBorke | nope |
| 03:35.24 | JoshBorke | just link me the error here |
| 03:35.24 | Morghus | Oo |
| 03:35.25 | Antiarc | Seems that AceComm could use an UnsetCommPrefix() or something |
| 03:35.25 | Morghus | damn |
| 03:35.37 | Morghus | Should have known that before :P |
| 03:35.52 | Morghus | JoshBorke: http://pastey.net/69315 |
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| 03:36.13 | Morghus | I get one on every login |
| 03:36.30 | JoshBorke | o.O who doesn't use Health with pitbull? |
| 03:36.38 | RogueShadow | I am a kodo taming master! |
| 03:36.55 | JoshBorke | erm, you update recently morghus? |
| 03:37.04 | JoshBorke | mine reads HealthBar and not Health |
| 03:37.19 | Morghus | JoshBorke: I did, just ... 30 mins ago |
| 03:37.36 | Killmore | Antiarc: we did a full magtheridon, gruul lair, hydross + lurker with 25 Omen :P |
| 03:37.37 | Morghus | Trash the saved variables then |
| 03:37.42 | Killmore | no problem at all |
| 03:37.44 | Antiarc | How's it work out? |
| 03:37.45 | Antiarc | Kickass |
| 03:38.11 | Killmore | yep |
| 03:38.15 | kebinusan | Killmore: have someone target vashj and leo at the same time :-) |
| 03:38.19 | kebinusan | well its fixed now |
| 03:38.23 | Antiarc | kebinusan: That's fixed. :D |
| 03:38.33 | kebinusan | but it was funny, 20 people hey anyone elses fps drop to 1 |
| 03:39.38 | kebinusan | I think I have a good portion of my raid using omen now |
| 03:39.40 | kebinusan | its kinda nice |
| 03:39.45 | kebinusan | or at least threatlib |
| 03:39.54 | CIA-22 | 03joshborke * r41842 10PitBull/BarFader/BarFader.lua: |
| 03:39.54 | CIA-22 | PitBull_BarFader: |
| 03:39.54 | CIA-22 | - check for existence before hooking |
| 03:40.02 | JoshBorke | try now |
| 03:40.18 | Morghus | Will do. |
| 03:40.31 | JoshBorke | Morghus: you do know that barfader was incorporated into PitBull proper a while ago |
| 03:40.48 | JoshBorke | so you're not using the PitBull_BarFader version are you? |
| 03:41.13 | Antiarc | ckknight: http://img209.imageshack.us/my.php?image=memusageli3.jpg |
| 03:41.17 | Antiarc | Jumped madly in one encounter. |
| 03:41.22 | Antiarc | It's gone up about 10kb since. |
| 03:41.28 | Antiarc | (SendCommMessage) |
| 03:42.10 | JoshBorke | ok bye |
| 03:42.13 | Morghus | JoshBorke: You mean it's lumped into the pitbull folder, right? |
| 03:42.38 | JoshBorke | correct |
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| 03:43.28 | Morghus | Then it's probably loading both, and giving error on the old one, which has been lying around in the folder |
| 03:43.39 | Morghus | Sorry 'bout that. My bad |
| 03:43.43 | Morghus | I blame my ignorance ;) |
| 03:43.46 | Lywellyn | wonder what it must be like to have 17MB as total usage... |
| 03:43.47 | JoshBorke | np |
| 03:44.01 | JoshBorke | i needed to check anyway |
| 03:44.11 | Morghus | Thank you JoshBorke :) |
| 03:44.16 | ckknight | RogueShadow: the Skinnable line shows for me. |
| 03:44.36 | JoshBorke | looks like all he's doing is addon testing, not any actual work |
| 03:44.37 | RogueShadow | well I guess I had better double check things. |
| 03:45.43 | Lywellyn | ckknight: Do you have to set a line to show Skinnable, or is that automatic? |
| 03:45.44 | Antiarc | So I guess that KTM publishes threat on a timer, even if it hasn't changed |
| 03:46.00 | Antiarc | "Hey guys, just letting you know, I haven't done anything since 2 seconds ago" |
| 03:46.08 | ckknight | Lywellyn: automatic |
| 03:46.16 | ckknight | I just skinned a wolf |
| 03:46.52 | Morghus | ckknight: Congratulations :) |
| 03:46.59 | ckknight | Morghus: lol |
| 03:47.19 | Morghus | You've joined the ranks of real men, men that lives off the wild! |
| 03:47.24 | Cryect | hah |
| 03:47.30 | Lywellyn | Okay. It's nice that QuestsFu (or whatever AddOn I have that's doing it) is able to add the line to tooltips of mobs you need to kill for quests. :D |
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| 03:49.13 | Lywellyn | ckknight: Oh, by the way, thought I'd let you know: When you hover over your own unitframe, it uses the Frame anchor position, not the unit anchor position. |
| 03:49.15 | ckknight | Lywellyn: yea, CowTip should no longer interfere with other addons adding to the tooltip |
| 03:49.26 | Morghus | eePanels is the flavour of the month it seems OO |
| 03:49.28 | Morghus | *Oo |
| 03:49.29 | ckknight | Lywellyn: right, it's supposed to |
| 03:49.32 | rubik | anyone use Incubator? any way to make it show bars? it's got them hidden.. /incubator list does show them though |
| 03:49.40 | ckknight | Lywellyn: cause you're hovering over a unit frame, not a unit |
| 03:49.40 | Lywellyn | Oh okay. Thought it might've not been that way |
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| 03:50.28 | RogueShadow | ckknight: Oh, it shows for me now. I re-updated. ... |
| 03:50.46 | ckknight | RogueShadow: gah, after I said I fixed it with my last commit |
| 03:50.51 | ckknight | bad RogueShadow, no banana! |
| 03:51.00 | RogueShadow | ckknight: I updated right after you said that !!! |
| 03:51.11 | CIA-22 | 03nemes * r41843 10PitBull/Aura/Aura.lua: PitBull: Add option to highlight buffs cast by player |
| 03:51.16 | ckknight | RogueShadow: with WAU or with svn? |
| 03:51.24 | ckknight | *thumbs up*, nemes |
| 03:51.24 | RogueShadow | ckknight: WAU |
| 03:51.33 | ckknight | RogueShadow: yea, you gotta wait up to 20 minutes with that |
| 03:51.40 | RogueShadow | ckknight: Oh, sorry didn't know that |
| 03:51.50 | ckknight | RogueShadow: now you do, and you still don't get a banana. |
| 03:52.01 | RogueShadow | ckknight: That's fine. thanks. |
| 03:52.16 | ckknight | :-P |
| 03:52.44 | RogueShadow | ckknight: I guess I'll have to start using SVN, at least to help test updates o.O |
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| 03:54.13 | Morghus | ... I know it's been said before a million times, but it -really- needs to be repeated, about KTM. |
| 03:54.20 | Morghus | Disabling it is bliss. |
| 03:54.37 | Nemes_ | the MT in a raid the other night disabled it... and chaos ensued |
| 03:55.02 | Nemes_ | half the guild uses the latest and greatest Omen, the other half haven't updated an addon since BC |
| 03:55.09 | Morghus | hahaha |
| 03:55.27 | Cryect | well tell the other half to learn to not pull wtihout it then |
| 03:55.41 | Nemes_ | getting disinterested people to update addons is not easy |
| 03:57.12 | Nemes_ | etiquette question folks: I've found a CandyBar issue and have raised it in the forum thread, raised a trac and checked in a branch with the fix |
| 03:57.26 | Nemes_ | should I wait for Ammo or just test and then update trunk? |
| 03:57.39 | hyperChipmunk | test it, pastey a patch |
| 03:57.48 | hyperChipmunk | and ping [Ammo] |
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| 03:58.03 | Nemes_ | ok... I'll try him again later... |
| 03:58.04 | hyperChipmunk | he's probably sleeping right now |
| 03:58.14 | Nemes_ | I heard that real developers never sleep |
| 03:58.15 | hyperChipmunk | he usually signs in about 4h from now |
| 03:58.23 | hyperChipmunk | wakes up, rather |
| 03:58.44 | hyperChipmunk | yea, he's not a real dev; he's just an incompetent hack |
| 04:00.09 | Lyfe | real developers are a figment of the imagination. |
| 04:00.09 | Morghus | Nemes_: Refusing to let people with non-updated addons raid is a quick fix to make them alot more interested. |
| 04:00.38 | Nemes_ | I think I'd rather be an incompetent hack like Ammo, with real skills, than a "real dev" in an Innitech style company |
| 04:00.40 | Orthwein | is there an addon that lets you show what addons someone else has installed ,with versions and whatnot? |
| 04:00.55 | Nemes_ | heh Morgus... I was a guild master for a year and did just that |
| 04:01.13 | Nemes_ | I'm in a different guild now and the GM is a bit slacker - he's threatening it though... |
| 04:01.15 | Wobwork | Orthwein: not without a lot of snooping code installed |
| 04:01.24 | Orthwein | yeah, figured |
| 04:01.28 | Nemes_ | the addon would need to run on their end |
| 04:01.52 | Nemes_ | I guess we could build something into AceLibrary to at least report ace addon versions... |
| 04:02.00 | Morghus | Nemes_: If you can't keep your addons up to date, I wouldn't want you anywhere close to a raid, because I can't trust you to do something as easy as proper pewpew :P |
| 04:02.07 | Wobwork | I know that Threat has a "if anyone else has a lower version, inform them" code installed |
| 04:02.28 | Wobwork | which is pretty nfity |
| 04:02.33 | Nemes_ | there was one addon a year ago or so that used to whisperspam people if they had an older version |
| 04:02.46 | Nemes_ | can't remember what it was... maybe Omen could do that ;-) |
| 04:02.48 | Lyfe | lovely. |
| 04:02.52 | Kalman| | DBM has an onload messagebox that announces newer versions. |
| 04:02.58 | Wobwork | "You need more MAZZLEGASMS!!" |
| 04:03.17 | Wobwork | or better yet, have anyone with a older version yell "I NEED MORE MAZZLEGASM!" |
| 04:03.19 | Nemes_ | DBM... that's the chosen addon of my guild... it's horrible |
| 04:03.57 | Codayus | I've never tried DBM. Hmm |
| 04:03.59 | Nemes_ | and the messagebox doesn't work - we have one person with their addon 6 dotreleases old |
| 04:04.03 | spoage | I personally like DBM. |
| 04:04.10 | Nemes_ | I mean it doesn't make her update - she's just too lazy |
| 04:04.41 | Nemes_ | I had to convert from BW to DBM |
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| 04:05.36 | Codayus | Nemes_: Hmm, why? |
| 04:07.27 | Nemes_ | moved to a new server/guild |
| 04:07.34 | Nemes_ | <- aussie |
| 04:07.46 | Codayus | Sorry, I meant, why does the guild require it? |
| 04:07.55 | Nemes_ | and the aussie faction of our old guild, which I was the GM, finally left our american guild for an aussie guild/server |
| 04:08.17 | Morghus | DBM? |
| 04:08.33 | Nemes_ | why is an interesting question... I used to use BW during raids and got told off... that was when I first joined, so I didn't want to rock the boat |
| 04:08.48 | Peoii | That's one thing I love about the guild I'm in... we have exactly 0 mod requirements... You can play vanilla wow if you want, we don't really care, as long as you can do your damn job in a raid to satisfying standards |
| 04:09.37 | Nemes_ | but that makes it pretty hard on the tanks if they rely on theat / ktm |
| 04:09.56 | spoage | DBM = Deadly Boss Mod |
| 04:10.10 | Peoii | eh, all you have to do is have faith and learn to control your agro... if you're relying on a threat tool as a tank, I'd say there's a bigger underlying issue. |
| 04:10.55 | Lywellyn | ckknight: I'm in UC, and my party member is in Thunder Bluff...if I hover over her unit frame, should the zone tag be working in that case, or not? |
| 04:11.06 | Nemes_ | I keep trying to explain to people that threat and ktm are just best guesses; you need to learn to control aggro yourself |
| 04:11.07 | Lywellyn | Because I already found out the Guild tag does not work until you're in their range. |
| 04:11.17 | Codayus | My guild requires KTM for the tanks (probably will change to threat soon), so that people who want to can run KTM and compare their threat... |
| 04:11.20 | abyssichate | Is anyone using Proximo? Does it look like Arenamaster/Gladiator? |
| 04:12.07 | Codayus | But I don't really see why you'd require boss mods. <shrug> |
| 04:12.54 | Nemes_ | for the local warnings / statusbars, as some people don't understand the fights and need to have that stuff hammered home to them |
| 04:13.14 | Codayus | Hrm |
| 04:13.17 | abyssichate | Boss mods are pretty much vital in boss fights |
| 04:13.39 | Garoun | wow bulkmail2 didn't like enchantrix running :P |
| 04:13.42 | Nemes_ | especially with all the new content |
| 04:13.58 | Cryect | Boss mods aren't vital at all |
| 04:13.59 | abyssichate | They also help to handle several events that would instead require intense communication within the members (like shouting on ventrilo, clicking macros) |
| 04:14.09 | Codayus | Difference in approach I guess? Seems to me that if people screw up in a boss fight you should recommend they use boss mods. If that doesn't help...find someone else. |
| 04:14.14 | Orthwein | like mag cube clicking! |
| 04:14.21 | Peoii | meh |
| 04:14.26 | Orthwein | or void reaver bolts |
| 04:14.28 | Cryect | they help to remind people to pay attention |
| 04:14.29 | abyssichate | :| |
| 04:14.30 | Nemes_ | LOL that is a manual shouting process |
| 04:14.30 | Cryect | but they aren't needed |
| 04:14.35 | abyssichate | I am not speaking of retarded bosses :E. |
| 04:14.45 | Cryect | Eh what boss requires a boss mod? |
| 04:14.56 | abyssichate | Magtheridon for sure does not |
| 04:15.01 | Peoii | I havn't seen one yet ;) |
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| 04:15.06 | Cryect | I've not seen one yet that requires a boss mod |
| 04:15.12 | Peoii | Nor have I |
| 04:15.16 | abyssichate | well, I can tell you that BW helped us a lot against Bloodboil and Essences of Soul |
| 04:15.19 | Orthwein | none absolutely require it, but life is much easier with it |
| 04:15.20 | abyssichate | or against Vashj |
| 04:15.24 | Codayus | But as long as someone does their job, I don't really see why I'd care if they use Bigwigs, DBM or nothing at alll? |
| 04:15.29 | Cryect | I won't say they don't help but sure as hell not needed |
| 04:15.38 | Nemes_ | does everyone's guild mandate voice comms? |
| 04:15.43 | Orthwein | nope |
| 04:15.45 | Codayus | Yes |
| 04:16.30 | Codayus | Have to listen; don't have to talk. |
| 04:16.30 | Nemes_ | a year ago, I booted two people out of the guild who refused to get on vent... caused much drama |
| 04:16.30 | Peoii | our guild requires you have vent, and can listen... speaking is nice, but not near mandatory... you just have to listen |
| 04:16.30 | Lyfe | there are a number of guilds that do very well without voice com. |
| 04:16.30 | RogueShadow | Never have I ever seen a Boss that needed a bossmod. |
| 04:16.30 | Orthwein | my guild doesnt do voice comms |
| 04:16.30 | RogueShadow | and I do mean. never, not even close. |
| 04:16.30 | Orthwein | not even the majority |
| 04:16.30 | RogueShadow | I've never seen a boss either. |
| 04:16.37 | Peoii | We do more cybering over vent than actual talking about the event we're fighting though :/ |
| 04:16.40 | abyssichate | For example |
| 04:16.40 | Nemes_ | rogue you tell nothing but the truth |
| 04:16.41 | Orthwein | we're at SSC, which is pretty good for our server |
| 04:16.41 | Lyfe | heh. |
| 04:16.50 | abyssichate | Leotheras is made easy with timers |
| 04:16.53 | Lyfe | Peoii: that's the problem with it :\ |
| 04:17.06 | abyssichate | Predicting the phases and timing the curse of doom without timers seems a tough job to me |
| 04:17.06 | Peoii | Lyfe: nah, it's great :) Gives us some stress relief ;) |
| 04:17.12 | Lyfe | heh |
| 04:17.34 | Nemes_ | around about the time of learning Garr we made vent mandatory... |
| 04:17.51 | abyssichate | Bossmods are pretty much useless against straightforward bosses like Hydross or the lurker or voidreaver or solarian but they DO help against bosses where timing does matter. |
| 04:18.24 | Wobwork | Nemes_: WTB Oceanic Server somewhere in Oceania |
| 04:18.35 | Lyfe | my only difficulty with some mandatory requirements, is that not everyone uses windows, and there are a LOT of vent/teamspeak servers which are setup that use codecs only available in the windows versions of the programs. |
| 04:18.51 | Nemes_ | I'm glad they locate the oceanic servers in LA; if they located them in Aus, we would get substandard service |
| 04:18.52 | RogueShadow | now if only wow could link to irc chat rooms for channels... that'd be great. |
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| 04:19.11 | Lyfe | RogueShadow: just imagine the chaos! :) |
| 04:19.13 | galka_ | latest Pitbull update borks the unitframes for me. All I see is a semi-transparent background |
| 04:19.15 | Morghus | Keep the Oceanic buggers down I say! Keep them latencied forever, let them feel the reaction-times! :P |
| 04:19.19 | Wobwork | Nemes_: okay, WTB ping of less than 100 |
| 04:19.31 | RogueShadow | Lyfe: That would be pretty insane, with something so general. You could make an addon do anything. |
| 04:19.33 | Codayus | Thing is, we always have 1 person set to spam warnings to the raid. People without a boss mod can see it. People with one can just filter it out. Problem solved... |
| 04:19.50 | Nemes_ | wobwork: everyone on the server is at 250ms or so... I'm cool with that |
| 04:19.56 | Morghus | Wobwork: I'm in Norway, and I have 180+ constantly ;_; |
| 04:20.26 | Lyfe | absolutely. that's why addons aren't allowed to interact with the outside world. |
| 04:20.30 | Morghus | Though packetloss is for some reason a huge problem here. |
| 04:20.35 | RogueShadow | Lyfe: Suddently horde and alliance would be able to talk, addon's could stream info from irc channels. and be updated in game. chat mods. .. full blown chaos. I would freak out if blizzard even considered that. |
| 04:21.12 | Lyfe | yes.. stream info to and from.. and welcome to automated bots :) |
| 04:21.24 | RogueShadow | yes, auto bots controlled from web interfaces |
| 04:21.47 | Garoun | dogs... cats living together |
| 04:21.57 | RogueShadow | birds swimming, fish flying |
| 04:22.09 | Garoun | :P |
| 04:22.10 | Lyfe | galka_: i dunno, i just grabbed a more recent pitbull version, and it works fine fo rme. |
| 04:22.25 | Garoun | gotta be careful, referencing that particular thing shows age hehe |
| 04:22.37 | galka_ | I just updated as well and all im seeing are blizzardframes and a transparent background where the Pitbull frames SHOULD be |
| 04:27.56 | Antiarc | http://img329.imageshack.us/my.php?image=uiofchampionsjh4.jpg |
| 04:31.19 | Cryect | Interesting channel GOODOFFICERS |
| 04:32.01 | Cryect | Reminds me of my first guild where there were secret officer channels :-p |
| 04:32.54 | RogueShadow | lvl 39 mobs I kill are green to me in skinning. Need tof ind harder things. but i'm only lvl 35, so that'd be a bad Idea I guess. |
| 04:34.27 | Roartindon | Antiarc: Is that your UI? |
| 04:34.36 | Antiarc | Roartindon: At the moment, yes :D |
| 04:34.44 | Roartindon | Antiarc: What's the "You fail to cast Haste" messages? |
| 04:34.50 | Roartindon | That occur several times in your combat log? |
| 04:34.52 | Antiarc | Insufficient spell resource messages |
| 04:34.57 | Antiarc | Turned them on once for something |
| 04:34.59 | Antiarc | Never turned them off |
| 04:36.20 | Roartindon | you have like a tiny portion of your screen available for viewing the world without addons covering it :) |
| 04:37.12 | Antiarc | Heheh, yup |
| 04:37.21 | Antiarc | I'm raid profiling threat/omen |
| 04:37.28 | Antiarc | Hence the wtfaddons |
| 04:37.50 | Roartindon | Antiarc: You can raid with Expo detached? :) it's updates stall my computer like mad :) |
| 04:38.00 | Antiarc | Yeah |
| 04:38.16 | Antiarc | 10-20 FPS, usually |
| 04:38.49 | ckknight | and I'm back |
| 04:38.52 | Thrae | Heh, two 7zr running, even with dual processors, makes typing in irssi sometimes laggy :D |
| 04:40.28 | Antiarc | I'm running an AMD x2 3800+, which makes the whole process a lot less painful |
| 04:40.37 | Antiarc | I can tab out to code or IRC or whatever without noticable CPU lag. |
| 04:40.53 | CIA-22 | 03sayclub * r41844 10SharedMediaLib/SharedMedia-1.0/SharedMedia-1.0.lua: SharedMediaLib: Updated koKR system fonts |
| 04:43.04 | ckknight | Antiarc: so I'm thinking about naming the RP mod Coyote |
| 04:43.23 | Antiarc | Oh? |
| 04:43.52 | ckknight | yea |
| 04:44.00 | ckknight | because all other names suck :-P |
| 04:44.10 | Antiarc | Heh |
| 04:44.11 | Antiarc | Okay! |
| 04:45.22 | ckknight | it was either that or SchoolGirl |
| 04:45.31 | ckknight | which I'm still not opposed to |
| 04:46.15 | art3mis | omen has a damage meter? |
| 04:46.30 | art3mis | RP mod? |
| 04:46.57 | Cryect | thats violation the damage meter maybe? :-p |
| 04:47.08 | art3mis | dunno i keep forgetting to load vio ;) |
| 04:47.09 | ckknight | art3mis: yea, I was thinking about making an RP mod |
| 04:47.19 | art3mis | why? |
| 04:47.28 | rophy | role play? |
| 04:47.32 | RogueShadow | Because he can? |
| 04:47.43 | art3mis | if it talks anything but pirate or japanese(ninja) it's gonna be lame ;) |
| 04:48.10 | art3mis | SchoolGirl is good ;P |
| 04:48.23 | Thorgard | ckknight, RP? |
| 04:48.54 | RogueShadow | Applied Drama |
| 04:48.59 | art3mis | you could call it Role Adjustment Player Extreme Mods Edition ;P |
| 04:49.24 | art3mis | you could call it Role Adjusted Player: Extreme Mods Edition ;P |
| 04:49.44 | durcyn | anyone ever told you that you talk too much? |
| 04:50.00 | art3mis | once in a while and usually its responded to by uh huh and? |
| 04:50.04 | Thorgard | ckknight, call it 'CyberSex' |
| 04:50.17 | art3mis | haha call it 15 |
| 04:51.32 | Galka | lol |
| 04:51.36 | Galka | Definately call it CyberSex |
| 04:51.44 | RogueShadow | Ebyr Cynl |
| 04:52.01 | Galka | Its the most common form of "RP" that takes place on those damned servers anyway |
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| 04:53.18 | durcyn | hrm.. TramBuddy. |
| 04:53.34 | Antiarc | YarrYarrHumpHump |
| 04:53.38 | NeoTron | hrm my threat is broken :( |
| 04:53.45 | durcyn | ooh. "Yiff" |
| 04:53.52 | Antiarc | NeoTron: Infermashuns plz. |
| 04:54.00 | NeoTron | whut? |
| 04:54.01 | NeoTron | heh |
| 04:54.08 | NeoTron | NPCCore a nil value ftl. |
| 04:54.17 | Antiarc | Eh? |
| 04:54.18 | Antiarc | That's odd. |
| 04:54.24 | CIA-22 | thrae-wow: 03generalmx * r100 10/trunk/TinyTip/TinyTip.lua: TinyTip: The monies should now be gone (typo caused OnTooltipCleared to be nil'd instead of hooked). Also fixed a minor bug which probably did nothing. |
| 04:54.42 | NeoTron | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:54.50 | NeoTron | and I just installed with externals |
| 04:56.36 | durcyn | bet you a dollar you've got some out of date addon loading an old version |
| 04:57.14 | NeoTron | hrm I just did a full update .. but tried again |
| 04:58.23 | NeoTron | trying anoter reload.. |
| 04:58.38 | NeoTron | maybe I had an old version of Threat-1.0 .. (external) |
| 04:59.07 | NeoTron | seems to have done the trick |
| 05:04.21 | CIA-22 | 03cronan * r41845 10BigWigs/Extras/Proximity.lua: |
| 05:04.21 | CIA-22 | BigWigs: |
| 05:04.21 | CIA-22 | - Proximity font localization |
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| 05:11.49 | Antiarc | ckknight: Any thoughts on the AceComm thing? |
| 05:14.02 | ckknight | Antiarc: sure don't |
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| 05:16.23 | Kalman| | Antiarc: Spriest threat seems healthier in the latest rev. |
| 05:16.42 | Antiarc | Yay :D |
| 05:19.04 | Killmore | w00t ! |
| 05:19.19 | ZealotOnAStick | leotheras module seemed better behaved tonight. |
| 05:19.21 | Killmore | near the 1.0 public version Antiarc ? :P |
| 05:19.25 | Antiarc | Getting close. |
| 05:19.31 | Antiarc | I'm working out a few bugs tonight |
| 05:19.44 | Antiarc | And making sure it's as lean as it can be. |
| 05:20.26 | ZealotOnAStick | Yeah, I was impressed recently. |
| 05:20.31 | durcyn | it's gotten a lot more solid in the past week. VR and Solarian looked good as well. i actually had more problems in karazhan than in 25-mans. |
| 05:20.41 | ZealotOnAStick | The changes you and ckknight did a few days ago dropped Omen off my top 20 memory usage list. |
| 05:21.08 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r41846 10Parser-3.0/Parser-3.0/Parser-3.0.lua: Parser-3.0 - postpone global string mangling until the first registered event is called, preventing any issues with potential global string manipulation by SWStats or otherwise. |
| 05:22.05 | Kalman| | Antiarc: And the module race condition was definitely responsible for some lag, since I mid-raid reloaded with the new version and got about 15 FPS back. |
| 05:22.25 | Antiarc | Yup. |
| 05:22.31 | Antiarc | Got that fixed. |
| 05:23.44 | Killmore | Antiarc: Oh, just a little thing, some peoples give me feedback |
| 05:23.54 | Killmore | the default TPS refresh frequency is annoying |
| 05:24.03 | hyperChipmunk | yea, it's way too slow |
| 05:24.25 | Killmore | too slow ? the default refresh is at .05 :P |
| 05:24.28 | hyperChipmunk | I need better than 0.05s resolution |
| 05:25.03 | Killmore | personally I put the refresh at 0.5 |
| 05:25.17 | hyperChipmunk | you could blink and totally miss it! or worse...turn into a hunter! |
| 05:25.22 | hyperChipmunk | yea, mine's at 1s |
| 05:25.27 | ckknight | lol. |
| 05:25.50 | Antiarc | So a paladin buddy of mine had a problem yesterday |
| 05:25.54 | Antiarc | Couldn't get threat to load |
| 05:26.13 | Antiarc | So I said "ok, tell me what /dump AceLibrary("Threat-1.0"):GetPlayerModule() == nil returns" |
| 05:26.16 | Antiarc | "nil", he replies |
| 05:26.27 | Antiarc | "Congratulations, asshole, you turned into a hunter and broke Threat." |
| 05:27.10 | ckknight | ...lol? |
| 05:27.27 | ckknight | although if you do == nil, it couldn't return nil |
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| 05:28.48 | Killmore | omg |
| 05:28.48 | Killmore | http://img295.imageshack.us/img295/7075/80963234cp0.jpg http://img295.imageshack.us/img295/1328/72392774py8.jpg |
| 05:28.48 | Killmore | http://img152.imageshack.us/img152/6546/38151332qh0.jpg http://img295.imageshack.us/img295/7162/37149741jm4.jpg |
| 05:28.58 | Killmore | a retard from my guild |
| 05:30.20 | Antiarc | Well, whatever |
| 05:30.21 | Antiarc | You know |
| 05:30.23 | Orthwein | gotta love customer support |
| 05:30.33 | Wobwork | less QQ more pewpew |
| 05:32.07 | hyperChipmunk | yea, especially coming from a priest |
| 05:32.11 | cervanis | Killmore, thats too funny |
| 05:32.53 | Orthwein | I had no idea you could raise idiotic issues and get a response |
| 05:33.33 | cervanis | haha |
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| 05:35.50 | *** mode/#wowace [+o ckknight_] by ChanServ |
| 05:36.18 | ckknight_ | bah |
| 05:36.20 | ckknight_ | nick ckknight |
| 05:38.11 | kebinusan | Im bad for laughing at this, http://img.4chan.org/b/src/1182918386747.gif |
| 05:39.35 | nevcairiel | heh |
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| 05:42.48 | NightHawkTheSane | kebinusan: lol, thats awesome |
| 05:43.19 | CIA-22 | 03ulic * r41847 10LittleWigs/TempestKeep/ (Laj.lua Zereketh.lua): |
| 05:43.19 | CIA-22 | LittleWigs: |
| 05:43.19 | CIA-22 | - TK\Zereketh fixed a couple typos |
| 05:43.19 | CIA-22 | - TK\Laj return early if option disabled |
| 05:48.53 | ckknight | lol, kebinusan |
| 05:52.07 | CIA-22 | 03adirelle * r41848 10CastYeller/announces/ (paladin.lua warlock.lua): |
| 05:52.07 | CIA-22 | CastYeller: |
| 05:52.07 | CIA-22 | - paladin: added deDE announces, thanks to Poetter. |
| 05:52.07 | CIA-22 | - warlock: added starting announce for Banish. |
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| 05:55.53 | Nimble | clad|afk: Do I need to do something special to get clique to continue using max rank spells after training? |
| 05:56.58 | Wobwork | it should do it automatically by not having the rank in the clique |
| 05:57.16 | Wobwork | hitting 'max rank' -should- just strike the (Rank X) from the line |
| 05:57.25 | Wobwork | making it future proof! =) |
| 05:57.33 | Nimble | yeah there is no rank on the line |
| 05:57.41 | Nimble | but I just trained and it doesn't use the max rank |
| 05:57.46 | Wobwork | therefore it'll always be max rank |
| 05:57.57 | Wobwork | what spell are you trying? |
| 05:58.01 | Nimble | healing touch, regrowth |
| 05:58.02 | Nimble | both not working |
| 05:58.13 | Wobwork | and there's no rank indicator on the clique line? |
| 05:58.17 | Nimble | nope |
| 05:58.22 | Nimble | the "max" button is also grayed out |
| 05:58.28 | Wobwork | try just using /cast Healing Touch |
| 05:58.36 | Wobwork | and see if that casts the right one |
| 05:58.49 | Nimble | yep |
| 05:58.49 | Nimble | works |
| 05:59.01 | Wobwork | odd. There's nothing that should be modifying it |
| 05:59.09 | nevcairiel | did you reload ui after learning new spells? |
| 05:59.13 | nevcairiel | maybe clique caches those |
| 05:59.15 | Wobwork | since all Clique is doing is doing exactly that |
| 05:59.20 | Wobwork | nah, it wouldn't |
| 05:59.30 | Nimble | something even wierder |
| 05:59.31 | Wobwork | it's a secureframe click, that casts a string spell |
| 05:59.33 | Nimble | I deleted regrowth |
| 05:59.43 | Nimble | then threw in the rank 4 regrowth and left (Rank 4) in the line |
| 05:59.46 | Nimble | it's still using rank 3 |
| 05:59.49 | Wobwork | bizarre |
| 05:59.54 | Wobwork | I'd reloadui |
| 05:59.56 | Nimble | I did |
| 05:59.59 | Nimble | I also logged out |
| 06:00.01 | Nimble | when reloadui didn't work |
| 06:00.04 | Wobwork | or possibly delete your clique savedvar |
| 06:00.18 | Wobwork | got the latest version? |
| 06:00.33 | Nimble | maybe, I'll check |
| 06:00.53 | Nimble | odd error though |
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| 06:02.06 | ckknight | lol: Scientology + Nazis: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/worldnews.html?in_article_id=464429&in_page_id=1811 |
| 06:02.08 | Adirelle | Kaelten: "Error: You are not allowed to make changes to ".html"-type files:" ???? |
| 06:02.19 | Adirelle | new rule ? |
| 06:02.24 | Kaelten | yep |
| 06:02.31 | Kaelten | we have a whitelist of file types |
| 06:02.33 | ckknight | where are html files on the SVN? |
| 06:02.40 | ckknight | Kaelten: can I ask why? |
| 06:02.41 | Kaelten | ckknight: probably readmes |
| 06:02.42 | ckknight | :-P |
| 06:02.43 | Antiarc | HTML might be useful for doc files. |
| 06:02.44 | ckknight | spammers? |
| 06:02.55 | Antiarc | Pre-emptive defense against keylogger injection. |
| 06:02.55 | Adirelle | ckknight: manufac has a readme.html |
| 06:03.03 | Adirelle | (at least) |
| 06:03.04 | Kaelten | I'll allow html files. |
| 06:03.07 | Kaelten | one sec |
| 06:03.10 | Adirelle | oh k |
| 06:03.12 | ckknight | html seems a good idea... |
| 06:03.13 | Nimble | Wobwork: in case you were wondering I do indeed have the latest version |
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| 06:03.31 | Antiarc | HTML might be subject to XSS attacks, but that'd be a REALLY tough way to do it. |
| 06:03.35 | Antiarc | So they should be fine. |
| 06:03.38 | Adirelle | I was adding a "redirect to wiki page" .html, as the Manufac file does |
| 06:03.43 | Kaelten | ckknight: main worry is executable files |
| 06:03.55 | ckknight | right. |
| 06:03.57 | Kaelten | ckknight: and we went whitelist instead of blacklist to catch things we don't think about. |
| 06:04.05 | ckknight | good idea |
| 06:04.26 | Antiarc | ckknight: Did you see last week where someone posted a wowinsider review of Cartographer with a link to a copy of it with the LOD bat replaced with a keylogger renamed to the bat file? |
| 06:04.30 | Kaelten | I can override it by granting super user access |
| 06:04.38 | Antiarc | Basically wanting to avoid anything like that getting into the wowace svn. |
| 06:04.42 | Adirelle | Kaelten: does it checks on file type through "file" util ? |
| 06:04.50 | ckknight | Antiarc: happened more than once |
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| 06:05.39 | Kaelten | html and htm added |
| 06:05.52 | CIA-22 | 03adirelle * r41849 10CastYeller/ (README.txt ReadMe.html): |
| 06:05.52 | CIA-22 | CastYeller: |
| 06:05.52 | CIA-22 | - dropped README.txt in favor of ReadMe.html, that redirects to the Wiki page. |
| 06:06.07 | Adirelle | Kaelten: looks like it is extension based, am i right ? |
| 06:06.11 | Kaelten | correct |
| 06:06.19 | Adirelle | (btw, thx) |
| 06:06.24 | Adirelle | wouldn't be hard to overcome then |
| 06:06.31 | Kaelten | its not perfect |
| 06:06.33 | Kaelten | we know |
| 06:06.38 | Adirelle | though about "file" ? |
| 06:06.43 | Adirelle | s/gh/ght/ |
| 06:06.54 | Kaelten | ? |
| 06:07.07 | Jaxon | Uses number magic to indentify files |
| 06:07.17 | Adirelle | hrm... is it a home-made script or a SVN built-in that does the checks ? |
| 06:07.42 | Kaelten | its a pre-commit script |
| 06:07.46 | Kaelten | only utility we have |
| 06:07.51 | Adirelle | let me check the syntax |
| 06:08.11 | Kaelten | ? |
| 06:08.24 | Jaxon | Adirelle: its just "$ files <file> |
| 06:08.32 | Jaxon | s/files/file/ |
| 06:08.36 | Adirelle | Kaelten: http://www.die.net/doc/linux/man/man1/file.1.html |
| 06:08.39 | nevcairiel | you cant use the file tool on a precommit |
| 06:08.50 | Adirelle | it is quite standard on any linux distro |
| 06:08.51 | Kaelten | nope |
| 06:09.02 | Kaelten | precommits don't have access to real files |
| 06:09.09 | Kaelten | just what svnlook tells them. |
| 06:09.13 | Kaelten | er can tell them |
| 06:09.21 | Adirelle | oh |
| 06:09.23 | Adirelle | too bad :p |
| 06:09.42 | Adirelle | s/:p/:// |
| 06:10.23 | Antiarc | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=112595876&postId=1138516980&sid=1#29 <-- lawls at post #28 |
| 06:10.26 | Adirelle | anyway, this should be sufficient |
| 06:11.21 | ckknight | lol, Antiarc |
| 06:11.43 | Adirelle | lol too |
| 06:12.30 | nevcairiel | lol |
| 06:14.10 | ckknight | you know, Paris Hilton is actually kinda cute without all the garish makeup: http://img.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2007/06_02/paris1AP2606_468x808.jpg |
| 06:14.32 | hyperChipmunk | whoa |
| 06:14.40 | hyperChipmunk | she looks normal |
| 06:14.44 | ckknight | yea, I know |
| 06:14.50 | hyperChipmunk | that's much more attractive |
| 06:14.51 | ckknight | that's right after she was released |
| 06:14.54 | ckknight | agreed |
| 06:15.02 | Wobwork | You can read all about it in her book |
| 06:15.08 | Wobwork | "My Time in Prison" |
| 06:15.09 | ckknight | with all the slutty makeup, it's like, no thanks, none for me |
| 06:15.13 | hyperChipmunk | I always thought she looked like a dirty skank |
| 06:15.14 | Wobwork | with chapters such as "The Chair" |
| 06:15.16 | Wobwork | and "The Table" |
| 06:15.21 | ckknight | Wobwork: srsly? |
| 06:15.22 | hyperChipmunk | ... |
| 06:15.32 | Wobwork | well she's going to write a best seller on her 'experience' |
| 06:15.46 | Wobwork | she already started =P |
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| 06:18.33 | ckknight | well, the point is |
| 06:18.37 | ckknight | I'd fuck her |
| 06:19.27 | hyperChipmunk | and post the video on teh intarweb? |
| 06:19.45 | Adirelle | she a bit too thin, no thx |
| 06:19.48 | Kaelten | .toc .lua .txt .xml .tga .blp .wav .mp3 .html .htm .wau .ttf .wav |
| 06:19.49 | ckknight | Adirelle: meh, I like thin girls |
| 06:19.55 | ckknight | though I much prefer redheads, honestly |
| 06:20.30 | Adirelle | ckknight: heh |
| 06:20.30 | ckknight | redheads = sextastic |
| 06:20.30 | Kaelten | those are the current extensions |
| 06:20.30 | hyperChipmunk | um |
| 06:20.30 | ckknight | no .htm |
| 06:20.30 | ckknight | .html ftw |
| 06:20.30 | hyperChipmunk | i have README and TODO and CHANGELOG |
| 06:20.30 | ckknight | :-P |
| 06:20.30 | Adirelle | Kaelten: no more .bat then ? |
| 06:20.37 | ckknight | Adirelle: it's unneeded in most cases |
| 06:20.40 | Wobwork | Adirelle: only for trusted |
| 06:20.50 | Kaelten | ckknight: either is valid, I don't recognize your hatred |
| 06:21.07 | Kaelten | Adirelle: big problem is windows will run an exe if its extension is .bat |
| 06:21.21 | hyperChipmunk | I don't understand how file extensions are going to prevent people from uploading binaries |
| 06:21.26 | ckknight | Kaelten: down with 8.3! |
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| 06:21.33 | Kaelten | its not perfect |
| 06:21.44 | Kaelten | but it will help most users and minimize damage |
| 06:21.47 | hyperChipmunk | extensions have no meaning whatsoever |
| 06:21.49 | Kaelten | if something does happen. |
| 06:21.59 | ckknight | hyperChipmunk: they do on most machines out there. |
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| 06:22.04 | Wobwork | All you can do, really, is minmise the opportunity for silly noobs to doubleclick on a file for keylogging |
| 06:22.11 | hyperChipmunk | can you at least allow all ASCII, regardless of extension? |
| 06:22.14 | ckknight | hyperChipmunk: for Windows machines, you don't need to chmod +x to run something. |
| 06:22.16 | Adirelle | ckknight: I'd prefer http://www.hollywood-celebrity-pictures.com/Celebrities/Katherine-Heigl/Katherine-Heigl-16.JPG |
| 06:22.28 | Kaelten | hyperChipmunk: I'm limited by svnlook |
| 06:22.40 | ckknight | Katherine Heigl is pretty hot, all in all |
| 06:22.58 | Kaelten | Wobwork: yep and not having executables uploaded is a way to do that. |
| 06:23.00 | ckknight | Adirelle: what else is good is Lindsey Lohan before she dyed her hair and got all skinny |
| 06:23.29 | Adirelle | from where I come, we would say from K. Heigl that she has "de la viande sur les os" :p |
| 06:23.54 | Adirelle | (I let you ask purl for that matter) |
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| 06:24.03 | ckknight | don't know the original language |
| 06:24.05 | Wobwork | ~x fr en de la viande sur les os |
| 06:24.10 | ckknight | lol |
| 06:24.16 | hyperChipmunk | lol |
| 06:24.16 | ckknight | yea, same expression in America |
| 06:24.34 | ckknight | I don't mind girls with a little extra meat |
| 06:24.46 | Wobwork | extra? =P |
| 06:24.48 | ckknight | I just mind if they have much more than necessary |
| 06:24.52 | Wobwork | how about sufficient? =P |
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| 06:25.34 | ckknight | who's also good is Keira Knightley |
| 06:25.39 | |Pixel| | no need to seek that far to find pretty girls |
| 06:25.52 | Kaelten | if you can count the ribs its too skinny thats my statement |
| 06:25.58 | Adirelle | when you have some wet clothing to dry, maybe... |
| 06:26.03 | |Pixel| | we have some nice ones @ Blizzard directly: |
| 06:26.12 | Adirelle | Kaelten: right ! |
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| 06:26.24 | ckknight | |Pixel|: you're at Blizz? |
| 06:26.37 | ckknight | Kaelten: gotta be able to play a tune on those ribs |
| 06:26.42 | |Pixel| | http://www.blizzard.co.uk/battlenet/tournaments/season5/images/pics/eu-regionals/day1/ss013.jpg |
| 06:26.53 | |Pixel| | huh, err, yeah |
| 06:26.56 | Kaelten | KarlThePagan: wb, you have a broken jnlp on the site |
| 06:26.58 | ckknight | she's cute |
| 06:27.08 | ckknight | |Pixel|: that's cool |
| 06:27.15 | ckknight | gimme a job |
| 06:27.16 | ckknight | :-P |
| 06:27.35 | |Pixel| | except if you wanna do some webdev in europe, I guess I can't really help you much :) |
| 06:27.48 | ckknight | back to the subject of the womens, really, I prefer normal-looking ones |
| 06:27.54 | Wobwork | hehe |
| 06:27.56 | Wobwork | define 'normal' |
| 06:28.01 | ckknight | and I'm not talking midwestern normal where that means 50+ more than necessary |
| 06:28.08 | ckknight | I'm talking like, average plain jane types. |
| 06:28.22 | hyperChipmunk | wtf |
| 06:28.23 | ckknight | I don't want to have to wake up every morning and be the ugly one |
| 06:28.36 | ckknight | hyperChipmunk: hrm? |
| 06:28.44 | Wobwork | There are paper bags for that problem =) |
| 06:28.52 | hyperChipmunk | midwestern women are just fine, you rotten stereotypist |
| 06:29.05 | ckknight | hyperChipmunk: I lived in Illinois for like 5 years. |
| 06:29.13 | ckknight | too many fatties. |
| 06:29.19 | KarlThePagan | Kaelten, I see that now... oddly enough I moved back the working version before I started the raid |
| 06:29.22 | Kaelten | ckknight: ya but now you've made hc feel insecure |
| 06:29.29 | Adirelle | is there some kind of wiki that explains how non-xml bindings works ? |
| 06:29.30 | Kaelten | KarlThePagan: lol |
| 06:29.32 | Wobwork | hc is merely big boned |
| 06:29.39 | Kaelten | KarlThePagan: kill it all |
| 06:29.40 | ckknight | Wobwork: well I'm not saying ugly, I'm just saying average |
| 06:29.44 | KarlThePagan | sounds good to me |
| 06:29.47 | ckknight | Adirelle: possibly on wowwiki |
| 06:29.52 | hyperChipmunk | actually, I'm really thin |
| 06:29.56 | KarlThePagan | nuke it from orbitttt |
| 06:29.58 | hyperChipmunk | I couldn't gain weight if I tried |
| 06:30.02 | ckknight | ah, same |
| 06:30.07 | ckknight | 5'9", 132lb |
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| 06:30.23 | Wobwork | bah |
| 06:30.28 | Wobwork | why is the hour moving so slowly |
| 06:30.31 | Wobwork | I want to go home =( |
| 06:30.58 | Adirelle | damn, I'm sure that purl can't translate height et and weight |
| 06:30.59 | KarlThePagan | Kaelten, can you turn off squid for jnlp files? |
| 06:31.13 | Kaelten | er... we'll have to ask pastamancer |
| 06:31.18 | Kaelten | he knows more about squid than I do. |
| 06:31.32 | KarlThePagan | it's deffinately complicating things... |
| 06:31.55 | Kaelten | when I move servers I can put wau on its own subdomain and give it a dedicated ip with no squid on it. |
| 06:32.04 | Wobwork | 132 pounds = 59.8741928 kilograms |
| 06:32.36 | Wobwork | 5 foot 9 inches = 175.26 centimeters |
| 06:32.39 | art3mis | squid is yummy |
| 06:33.08 | Wobwork | lightly deepfried in chili salt and pepper |
| 06:33.11 | Kaelten | heh I would look completely corpse like at 132 pounds |
| 06:33.12 | art3mis | mmmm |
| 06:33.17 | art3mis | thats good eattin |
| 06:33.25 | Adirelle | heh... I should be on inch taller, but 80lb heavier... |
| 06:33.27 | art3mis | Kaelten: but you're only 4'2" |
| 06:33.43 | art3mis | at 132 you'd be a weeble |
| 06:33.57 | Adirelle | french meals are no good for my weight :p |
| 06:34.06 | art3mis | italian is worse |
| 06:34.07 | Wobwork | The french like their butter |
| 06:34.15 | art3mis | ive got an italian food gut now |
| 06:34.28 | Kaelten | actually I'm 6' |
| 06:34.29 | Wobwork | italian food is merely from the sheer quantity supplied =) |
| 06:34.33 | art3mis | cuz my wife cooks REALLY good italian meals |
| 06:34.43 | art3mis | 1/2 meat balls |
| 06:34.55 | art3mis | sausage and peppers |
| 06:34.57 | Wobwork | (what's the other half?) |
| 06:34.59 | art3mis | mmmm |
| 06:35.04 | art3mis | err 1/2lb |
| 06:35.10 | Kaelten | and I have to wear a 54 suit jacket because of my shoulders. |
| 06:35.13 | art3mis | deadly radon ;P |
| 06:35.29 | art3mis | take the hanger out? |
| 06:35.31 | art3mis | hehe |
| 06:35.40 | Kaelten | heh |
| 06:35.43 | art3mis | that makes me think of that tom and jerry where tom has the zoot suit |
| 06:35.46 | Kaelten | I wish it where that easy |
| 06:35.54 | Wobwork | zoot suit riot |
| 06:35.58 | art3mis | is you i9s or is you aint mah babuy |
| 06:35.59 | Kaelten | hell mine ain't a zoot suit, I'd love to have one |
| 06:35.59 | Wobwork | throw back a bottle of beer |
| 06:36.10 | art3mis | i saw one the other day |
| 06:36.13 | art3mis | it was awesome! |
| 06:36.25 | art3mis | like old school pimp! purple zoot suit compelte with hat and feather |
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| 06:36.47 | Kaelten | lol |
| 06:36.55 | Kaelten | I'd just want a black with pinstripe one |
| 06:37.10 | art3mis | johnny danergously style! |
| 06:37.13 | art3mis | dangerously |
| 06:37.30 | Wobwork | one of my friends came to the year 12 formal in a purple zootsuit with leopardskin trim |
| 06:37.33 | KarlThePagan | Kaelten, try now |
| 06:37.39 | Wobwork | his date wore a leopard skin mini |
| 06:37.42 | art3mis | nice |
| 06:37.47 | Wobwork | he made it =P |
| 06:37.56 | art3mis | so he was actually gay? |
| 06:38.14 | Wobwork | no =) |
| 06:38.16 | art3mis | or was it held together with staples paperclips and duct tape ;P |
| 06:38.16 | Kaelten | works now |
| 06:38.19 | Wobwork | Just had a lot of time on his hands |
| 06:38.26 | Wobwork | possibly underneath! |
| 06:38.35 | art3mis | the buttons were budweiser caps |
| 06:38.37 | art3mis | heh |
| 06:38.48 | art3mis | Red Green is a model for all of us |
| 06:39.09 | art3mis | i mean who else could get an entire movie funded by a single company and a single product ;P |
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| 06:39.30 | art3mis | 3m funded his red green movie because he constantly plugged duct tape as the greatest thing ever |
| 06:39.42 | art3mis | admittedly it is |
| 06:39.44 | art3mis | but still |
| 06:39.46 | Wobwork | it's true |
| 06:40.16 | art3mis | the iron age, the stone age, the electronic age, the age of duct tape and paperclips |
| 06:40.49 | Wobwork | well |
| 06:40.55 | Wobwork | that was ushered in by MacGuyver |
| 06:41.01 | art3mis | heh |
| 06:41.04 | art3mis | that family guy |
| 06:41.16 | art3mis | the bic pen the paperclip and the elastic band |
| 06:41.21 | Adirelle | I'm wondering if non-xml bindings actually exists, can't find anything about it on wowwiki |
| 06:41.25 | ckknight | I have an issue |
| 06:41.29 | ckknight | there aren't any good shows out |
| 06:41.30 | Kaelten | knew a guy who's dad used duct tape to repair a fan belt on his car long enough to get him back into town and to the auto part store, something about a whole roll just wrapped around to entirety of the belt or something |
| 06:41.34 | ckknight | crappy seasons |
| 06:41.42 | Kaelten | Adirelle: they do |
| 06:41.47 | Kaelten | I just don't know how to do them yet |
| 06:41.53 | Adirelle | :) |
| 06:41.57 | ckknight | Adirelle: Cartographer does one |
| 06:41.58 | art3mis | Kaelten: i used it to patch a hole in my rad and my muffler for a drive across canada ;P |
| 06:42.00 | ckknight | ALT-M |
| 06:42.06 | Adirelle | ckknight: in core ? |
| 06:42.22 | ckknight | Adirelle: I believe so, in Cartographer.lua |
| 06:42.23 | Kaelten | art3mis: lol, nice |
| 06:42.32 | art3mis | oh |
| 06:42.40 | Wobwork | nonxml bindings are fairly simple |
| 06:42.42 | art3mis | and my wife mocks me when i tape up cuts with duct tape |
| 06:42.43 | Wobwork | from what I've seen |
| 06:42.44 | Adirelle | actually I'm thinking of rebuilding a light-weight smartbuff-like |
| 06:42.53 | art3mis | the other day this contracter was over doing work in the basement |
| 06:42.53 | Adirelle | (a selfish one btw) |
| 06:42.56 | art3mis | he cuts his hand |
| 06:42.58 | Wobwork | art3mis: possibly only cause getting it off is painful =P |
| 06:43.04 | art3mis | out comes the duct tape and he wraps it up |
| 06:43.04 | Jaxon | Adirelle: could just grep the patchnotes for the API? |
| 06:43.11 | art3mis | i laughed soooo hard |
| 06:43.19 | art3mis | Wobwork: its habit from skateboarding |
| 06:43.36 | art3mis | used to carry duct tape to patch shoes all the time and it worked great as a bandaid with a strip of cloth |
| 06:43.40 | Wobwork | although that myth about using tampons or pads to stem bloodflow from a wound is a bad one |
| 06:43.47 | art3mis | yup |
| 06:43.52 | art3mis | VERY bad |
| 06:43.59 | art3mis | that weave friggin hurts |
| 06:44.14 | art3mis | the new pads are decent enough though but the cotton rips the scab off |
| 06:44.24 | Wobwork | more to the point, they're designed to pull the blood away from the point of contact |
| 06:44.30 | Wobwork | thus no clotting |
| 06:44.30 | art3mis | heh |
| 06:44.35 | ckknight | Adirelle: ooh. |
| 06:44.35 | Wobwork | thus eternal flow =P |
| 06:44.40 | art3mis | they work good as hip pads though |
| 06:44.49 | art3mis | maxi pads that is |
| 06:44.49 | ckknight | Adirelle: I like the mousewheel style ;-) |
| 06:44.53 | Adirelle | ckknight: yes |
| 06:45.01 | Adirelle | ckknight: can't get ride of this thing |
| 06:45.07 | ckknight | yea |
| 06:45.14 | Adirelle | but the whole addon is bloated |
| 06:45.30 | Wobwork | art3mis: hehe, well according to the ads, if you wear the maxipads, you can surf, skate and do -anything-! =) |
| 06:45.38 | art3mis | Adirelle: we've been saying that for months ;P |
| 06:45.44 | art3mis | Wobwork: hahahahaha |
| 06:45.49 | Kaelten | when I wear them I win the lottery |
| 06:45.51 | Kaelten | er wait |
| 06:46.12 | Wobwork | Kaelten's going to put one on now =P |
| 06:46.17 | art3mis | used tampon == vampire teabag |
| 06:46.23 | ckknight | Adirelle: agreed |
| 06:46.27 | ckknight | art3mis: lol |
| 06:46.30 | Wobwork | sheep == elephant tampon |
| 06:47.12 | vithos | are player frame tooltips staying permanently with CowTips for anyone else? |
| 06:47.21 | vithos | er, unit frame tooltips |
| 06:47.30 | Kaelten | I've actually convinced myself, logically, that there is no reason not to play the lottery |
| 06:47.38 | art3mis | wasnt xperl ace2? |
| 06:47.46 | Wobwork | well if you can afford it, why not? |
| 06:47.55 | FISKER_Q | i got tooltips when mousing over objects that stay for quite some time |
| 06:48.04 | art3mis | and cooldowncount or whatever it is isnt an ace2 mod is it? |
| 06:48.42 | art3mis | Kaelten: umm mathematicians who understand how to work random numbers refuse to play it, that alone is good enough for me ;P |
| 06:48.50 | Kaelten | Wobwork: what I figure is that someone will win and there is one way I know to make sure it not me. |
| 06:49.13 | Wobwork | the only way to make sure it's not you, is not to play =) |
| 06:49.25 | Kaelten | art3mis: 10 bucks a week for 30 years is 15k |
| 06:49.40 | art3mis | thats a pack of smokes ;P |
| 06:49.40 | Kaelten | its not that much money |
| 06:49.49 | Kaelten | yep and I don't smoke |
| 06:49.53 | art3mis | at least with smoking you've got a guarenteed win at the end ;P |
| 06:50.02 | art3mis | any man can die of cancer |
| 06:50.11 | Kaelten | and the odds of me getting something positive out of the lottery is lot better than the ods of smoking giving me something good |
| 06:50.12 | art3mis | it takes a real man to die of lung cancer |
| 06:50.19 | art3mis | thats not true |
| 06:50.28 | art3mis | they put vitamin C and stuff in cigarettes |
| 06:50.29 | Kaelten | I watched my stepmom die of lung cancer, not fun |
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| 06:50.35 | art3mis | besides |
| 06:50.41 | art3mis | you could get a trach hole |
| 06:50.49 | art3mis | and one of those takie box things |
| 06:51.01 | Kaelten | ~lart art3mis |
| 06:51.01 | purl | slaps a compatible dib on art3mis's head |
| 06:51.01 | art3mis | i bet you spent at elast 2 summers wishing you were a robot |
| 06:51.06 | hyperChipmunk | yea, then the babes will flock to you |
| 06:51.26 | Wobwork | A total chick magnet |
| 06:51.26 | art3mis | hyperChipmunk: you wouldnt have to gasp for breath while doing down ;) |
| 06:51.32 | vithos | FISKER_Q: not sure about objects, but units in the 3d world, the tooltips disappear instantly for me. it's just unitframe tooltips stay up forever until i mouse over something else like an actionbar or a unit in the field |
| 06:51.35 | Wobwork | *cheep* *zip* *thud* |
| 06:51.45 | vithos | it's actually been doing this for days i've just ignored it |
| 06:52.07 | Kaelten | anywho, g'night |
| 06:55.10 | Adirelle | actually wondering how I'll do the mousewheel trick, I was planning to use a button frame to do the job and then just Set(Override)BindingClick |
| 06:56.04 | art3mis | remember back in the old days when unitframes had one folder |
| 06:56.10 | art3mis | and only did unit frames? |
| 06:56.15 | art3mis | ahhh those qwere the days |
| 06:56.24 | Adirelle | dunno if a hidden button frame actually receives mouseclicks/bindings |
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| 06:58.59 | Wobwork | Adirelle: probably not |
| 07:01.23 | [Ammo] | morning |
| 07:01.42 | Adirelle | have to check it tho, the SetOverrideBinding seems very interesting for my need |
| 07:02.01 | nevcairiel | morning ammo |
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| 07:04.43 | Nemes_ | hey ammo |
| 07:05.08 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r41850 10CowTip/PowerBar/PowerBar.lua: CowTip_PowerBar - bugfix |
| 07:05.24 | Nemes_ | ammo: I've found a little bug in CandyBars: http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=1782.20 |
| 07:05.35 | Nemes_ | can you please review the fix that I've proposed? |
| 07:06.03 | [Ammo] | it is a bug in the documentation |
| 07:06.04 | [Ammo] | meh |
| 07:06.32 | Nemes_ | well... the addon that I'm writing needs to have the bars stay on screen indefinitely |
| 07:06.39 | Nemes_ | hence I put in the fix to allow that |
| 07:06.53 | [Ammo] | hmmok |
| 07:06.54 | [Ammo] | checking it |
| 07:06.58 | Nemes_ | cheers chier |
| 07:07.00 | Nemes_ | *chief |
| 07:08.24 | [Ammo] | looks good |
| 07:08.25 | [Ammo] | just commit |
| 07:08.26 | [Ammo] | to trunk |
| 07:08.41 | Nemes_ | thanks ammo |
| 07:08.57 | [Ammo] | see bug though |
| 07:08.59 | Nemes_ | CandyBars makes life easy for statusbar addons ;-) |
| 07:09.01 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r41851 10CowTip/ (HealthBar/HealthBar.lua Text/Text.lua): CowTip_HealthBar - hide Blizz's status bar by default. |
| 07:09.10 | Nemes_ | ooh do tell |
| 07:09.18 | [Ammo] | if not stayonscreen then shouldn't that be if not handler.stayonscreen |
| 07:09.45 | [Ammo] | in second bit of the patch |
| 07:09.55 | Nemes_ | hrmm... looks like you're right |
| 07:10.24 | Nemes_ | I think my tests never got there... |
| 07:10.32 | Nemes_ | I'll change and retest |
| 07:10.53 | [Ammo] | k |
| 07:11.18 | Nemes_ | then check in |
| 07:11.34 | art3mis | hrm wierd |
| 07:11.38 | Pheredhel | morning |
| 07:11.43 | Nemes_ | new to LUA... I'm a C++ person and all this self. referencing stuff shits me |
| 07:11.48 | art3mis | i could have sworn that xperl or at least buffalo would hide the blizz buffs |
| 07:12.35 | Pheredhel | is it "better style" to use Librarys as mixins or, if possible, as their own instances ? |
| 07:13.40 | ckknight | Pheredhel: mixins if available |
| 07:13.45 | ckknight | typically. |
| 07:13.54 | Nemes_ | what is the memory usage of mixins? do they have a single static instance that all child classes share? |
| 07:14.18 | Pheredhel | thanks |
| 07:14.21 | ckknight | Nemes_: what they do is inject their function references onto the child table |
| 07:14.45 | ckknight | Nemes_: so that's 4 bytes per function injected |
| 07:15.09 | ckknight | or 8, actually |
| 07:15.18 | ckknight | pretty cheap. |
| 07:15.41 | Pheredhel | less then creating their own instance in any case, ok |
| 07:15.57 | ckknight | it doesn't create a new function each time |
| 07:16.00 | ckknight | it reuses the same one |
| 07:16.09 | ckknight | functions are first class values, so you know |
| 07:16.11 | Nemes_ | sweet... that brings up something I was wondering: when we inherit from typical libraries like AceDebug, AceEvent etc. do they inherit from a single static instance, or is it a traditional OO approach where the entire parent is embedded in each child |
| 07:16.48 | Nemes_ | 'cause I'm wondering about the overhead of having many classes |
| 07:16.55 | Adirelle | Nemes_: we doesn't inherited from libraries: most are mixins |
| 07:17.01 | Adirelle | s/doesn't/don't/ |
| 07:17.15 | Nemes_ | all good |
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| 07:17.26 | Adirelle | Nemes_: only some function references are copied into target namespace |
| 07:17.48 | Nemes_ | last one: is there any easy way in the AceOO framework to create a singleton? I'm a big user elsewhere... |
| 07:17.51 | Adirelle | Nemes_: and those function have plain access to the local namespace where they were defined |
| 07:18.30 | Nemes_ | so I'm guessing the library / mixins that we are talking about have no data members eitehr |
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| 07:19.27 | Adirelle | in fact, they have access to both locals and objects they are embedded in |
| 07:19.46 | Adirelle | first from scope, second because of the OO-style calls |
| 07:19.58 | Adirelle | e.g. the "self" function local |
| 07:20.05 | Nemes_ | mrmm: I noticed that debug is picked up nicely by leaf class and mixin |
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| 07:21.24 | Adirelle | by exemple, AceEvent stores data about which addon registering which event in AceEvent-2.0.lua locals |
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| 07:22.42 | Adirelle | so it has a central registry that helps to handle events |
| 07:22.49 | Adirelle | +efficiently |
| 07:23.46 | Nemes_ | it's a very nice framework... I started looking at using LUA's own OO stuff and then quickly abandoned it... |
| 07:23.46 | Adirelle | in the other hands, if you look at AceDB, you'll see it access target (e.g. addon instance) namespace |
| 07:24.22 | Nemes_ | but that's reasonable for stuff like AceDB - it has to have data for each child |
| 07:26.14 | FISKER_Q | NO U |
| 07:26.14 | ckknight | Nemes_: mixins can have data members, e.g. AceDB injects the db field |
| 07:26.21 | ckknight | FISKER_Q: UR DUM |
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| 07:26.46 | Nemes_ | oh nice, so they have many data instances and one function instance |
| 07:26.54 | ckknight | well, it depends on the mixin |
| 07:27.07 | ckknight | AceConsole, for example, has no data fields, since it's not needed |
| 07:27.08 | Nemes_ | heh... can have many data instances |
| 07:27.10 | FISKER_Q | ok :( |
| 07:27.15 | ckknight | Nemes_: basically. |
| 07:27.18 | ckknight | FISKER_Q: :-P |
| 07:27.28 | FISKER_Q | oh wai i can just say NO U |
| 07:27.30 | FISKER_Q | :) |
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| 07:28.24 | Pheredhel | ok another question: as Babble is a instance of AceLocale, can I do something like 'AceLibrary("Babble-Spell-2.2"):new("CCBreaker")' to save the extra AceLocale instance or wont this work ? |
| 07:28.41 | Pheredhel | can't test it myself now as I cant run wow here |
| 07:29.31 | Nemes_ | wouldn't it have to be the other way around? local myBabble = AceLibrary(AceLocale):new("blah") |
| 07:31.56 | Pheredhel | BabbleSpell = AceLibrary("AceLocale-2.2"):new(MAJOR_VERSION) ok, so now it looks like the question if its possible to do :new():new() , i guess it wont work ? |
| 07:32.21 | ckknight | Pheredhel: no, doesn't work that way |
| 07:32.40 | ckknight | Pheredhel: there's a separation between classes and instances |
| 07:32.57 | ckknight | BabbleSpell is its own instance, can't make "sub-instances" |
| 07:34.01 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r41852 10CowTip/ (HealthBar/HealthBar.lua PowerBar/PowerBar.lua): CowTip_PowerBar/HealthBar - can now position both the health bar and the power bar on the same side. Health bar is always on the top or the left, respectively. |
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| 07:35.42 | Pheredhel | ok, then i will just create an extra instance for my own translations |
| 07:37.33 | Melvin | Is there such an addon to hide chat and bring it back with a hotkey or slash command? |
| 07:38.06 | ckknight | Pheredhel: right. |
| 07:38.22 | Pheredhel | oh, and as i found the right person to ask: for me ParserLib always sets recipientID and sourceID to false (Dispell event), do I miss something or is it the way it should work? |
| 07:38.55 | Pheredhel | it does so even if i break the sheep myself |
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| 07:45.13 | Ixan | wtb ace auctioneer |
| 07:49.03 | cervanis | i do have to agree with Ixan |
| 07:49.05 | ckknight | Pheredhel: hrm... |
| 07:49.17 | ckknight | Pheredhel: what does .message say? |
| 07:49.44 | ckknight | Pheredhel: actually what would be useful is if you AceLibrary("AceConsole-2.0"):PrintLiteral(info) -- where info is the info table |
| 07:49.49 | ckknight | and then send me a screenie |
| 07:50.48 | CIA-22 | 03roartindon * r41853 10Assessment/Assessment.toc: Assessment: Removed SW_Stats from OptDeps |
| 07:50.50 | Pheredhel | ok, but this will take about 1.5h, as right now i can't run wow |
| 07:50.57 | Pheredhel | just sitting in a lecture |
| 07:51.24 | ckknight | k |
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| 07:55.52 | CIA-22 | 03nemes * r41854 10CandyBar/CandyBar-2.0/CandyBar-2.0.lua: CandyBar: fix ticket 1168: SetCandyBarFade with a negative time will now cause bars to stay on screen indefinitely. |
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| 08:01.45 | evl | when using embeds, if addon A is loaded before addon B, and B contains an newer version of AceLibrary or something, won't A be initialized with an old Ace library? |
| 08:02.58 | syeren | ckknight, you around :)? |
| 08:03.09 | ckknight | yea |
| 08:03.25 | ckknight | evl: yes |
| 08:03.37 | syeren | With the code you gave me yesterday Ckk, if someone targets me it goes <<You>> Ausmara. |
| 08:03.51 | ckknight | k |
| 08:04.19 | syeren | Anyway to fix this or :P? |
| 08:10.44 | Neebler | evl: which is why !!StandAloneLibs is named that way |
| 08:11.00 | evl | I have standalone myself |
| 08:11.21 | CIA-22 | 03antiarc * r41855 10Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0/ (5 files in 2 dirs): |
| 08:11.21 | CIA-22 | Threat-1.0: |
| 08:11.21 | CIA-22 | - Made fixes to the Attumen and Nightbane modules |
| 08:11.21 | CIA-22 | - Optimizations to TPS calculations - don't need to use a second table to store redundant data. |
| 08:11.21 | CIA-22 | - Removed a number of debug messages |
| 08:11.22 | CIA-22 | - Did some performance tuning based on profiling results. |
| 08:11.23 | evl | just would like to avoid the extra hasse :P |
| 08:11.24 | CIA-22 | - Need to figure out how to get global TPS returning properly. |
| 08:12.30 | ckknight | syeren: what's the issue? |
| 08:14.02 | Killmore | Antiarc ? |
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| 08:21.58 | ckknight | <JohnFlux> There are two kinds of people: 1) those who start arrays with one and 1) those who start them with zero. |
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| 08:22.03 | ckknight | lol |
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| 08:23.21 | nevcairiel | heh |
| 08:23.37 | nevcairiel | took me a few seconds to notice the joke :P |
| 08:25.16 | Athou_ | ckknight: looks like the afk tag is not cleared on login in dogtag, I juste logged out as afk and logged back in another char and I had to /afk twice to remove the <AFK> tag from my name ^^ |
| 08:25.16 | ckknight | yea... |
| 08:25.25 | nevcairiel | you always login not-afk |
| 08:25.29 | nevcairiel | just clear it for good =P |
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| 08:28.06 | EkZ|Frater | hi |
| 08:28.17 | ckknight | hey |
| 08:28.28 | EkZ|Frater | can anyone tell me where i can find the onyx skin for cycircled ? can't find it in the original package :\ |
| 08:28.56 | EkZ|Frater | is that an external lib ? |
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| 08:30.52 | nevcairiel | yes, thats in cyCircled_Onyx |
| 08:30.56 | nevcairiel | (how obvious) |
| 08:31.09 | Jaxon | Clearly not obvious enough. |
| 08:31.12 | EkZ|Frater | huh |
| 08:31.44 | EkZ|Frater | hm |
| 08:31.45 | EkZ|Frater | k. |
| 08:31.53 | EkZ|Frater | didn't thought to find that in the updater's list :< |
| 08:31.59 | EkZ|Frater | thx btw |
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| 08:36.05 | Nimble | Does anyone know an alternative to trinketmenu for trinket swapping that swaps to trinkets on cooldown if they are at least 30 seconds less c/d or something/ |
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| 08:37.52 | Jaxon | Nimble: I think TrinketMenu does that. |
| 08:37.53 | doktoreas | hi to all |
| 08:38.04 | doktoreas | just reporting some testing of Omen...work like a charm.. |
| 08:38.16 | doktoreas | my guild is moving to it, kicking that KTM |
| 08:38.35 | Nimble | Jaxon: it doesn't seem to do that for me. When I use a trinket the other ones go on like a 15 second cooldown so it doesn't swap for 15 seconds |
| 08:39.03 | Jaxon | Nimble: because if you swap to the next trinket within a set time, you generally loose the buff you are going to get from the trinket you just used. |
| 08:39.49 | Jaxon | s/loose/lose/ |
| 08:40.36 | Nimble | oh, well ok |
| 08:40.42 | Nimble | nvm then |
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| 08:43.43 | evl | So what addon do I use to make sure my little rogue ass doesn't pull agro and die in a horrible fire? |
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| 08:45.05 | Nimble | omen? |
| 08:45.09 | [Ammo] | evl: Omen :p |
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| 08:46.43 | evl | [Ammo]: give that to all our mages, ASAP |
| 08:46.46 | evl | *giggle* |
| 08:46.48 | evl | tooty flipped on me |
| 08:46.55 | darchon_ | WAU 1.9 can't unpacking addon contents |
| 08:46.59 | darchon_ | BigWigs - Updating to rev -41845 |
| 08:46.59 | darchon_ | http://files.wowace.com/BigWigs/no-ext/BigWigs-r41845.zip |
| 08:46.59 | darchon_ | Downloading... done. |
| 08:46.59 | darchon_ | Uninstalling BigWigs... |
| 08:46.59 | darchon_ | Repacking BigWigs... |
| 08:47.00 | darchon_ | Extracting ZIP file... done. |
| 08:47.02 | darchon_ | Removing Embedded Library References... done. |
| 08:47.04 | darchon_ | FAILED: Root element is missing. |
| 08:47.06 | darchon_ | Deleting ZIP file... done. |
| 08:47.08 | evl | yes, paste more here ffs |
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| 08:48.13 | evl | But if I'm running violation |
| 08:48.24 | evl | why would I need omen, can't I just make a new violation window+ |
| 08:52.00 | [Ammo] | evl: because Omen is a true threatmeter |
| 08:53.11 | evl | [Ammo]: you're saying Violation is just a ring whereas Omen is The One Ring? |
| 08:53.29 | nevcairiel | thats a silly comparison :P |
| 08:53.45 | evl | nevcairiel: It's not, I'm a very serious LOTR fan |
| 08:55.00 | abyssichate | ckknight: are you around? |
| 08:55.08 | ckknight | meh |
| 08:55.32 | Pheredhel | Omen is all about displaying thread in various ways, violation is about displaying combat statistics. an addon dedicated to thread display will do better at it's job in most cases |
| 08:55.37 | abyssichate | Does [Faction] now return some kind of [Zone] or am I wrong? |
| 08:55.44 | ckknight | evl: Violation is like one of the rings given to men |
| 08:55.55 | ckknight | abyssichate: shouldn't. did you update DogTag? |
| 08:56.02 | abyssichate | yeah, I did |
| 08:56.14 | ckknight | abyssichate: okay, where do you get it, on what mob? |
| 08:56.20 | abyssichate | on my party mates |
| 08:56.22 | nevcairiel | well then, KTM is the One Ring, which has been created by the force of evil, and has to be destroyed in the fires of mount doom :P |
| 08:56.27 | evl | haha |
| 08:56.28 | abyssichate | I am in orgrimmar, one is in WSG, the other is in shattrath |
| 08:56.36 | ckknight | other? |
| 08:56.40 | evl | so the Violation team is Frodo |
| 08:56.41 | abyssichate | [Faction] displays respectively WSG and Shattrath City |
| 08:56.44 | evl | but who's Gollum? |
| 08:56.48 | abyssichate | while [Zone] is empty on them |
| 08:56.49 | ckknight | evl: Kenco. |
| 08:56.49 | [Ammo] | Kenco |
| 08:56.54 | ckknight | abyssichate: other what? |
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| 08:57.04 | abyssichate | the other party member |
| 08:57.29 | nevcairiel | Kenco would be sauron, as the creator of the one ring .. err KTM .. Gollum would have to be some KTM-extremist .. if there are some left :P |
| 08:57.38 | CIA-22 | 03daviesh * r41856 10AtlasLoot/Constants/constants.cn.lua: |
| 08:57.38 | CIA-22 | AtlasLoot: |
| 08:57.38 | CIA-22 | - Simp. Chinese update. |
| 08:57.56 | abyssichate | There is a party composed by three guys, me, guy #1 in shattrath, guy #2 in WSG; whenever I mouseover them, [Faction] returns the zones they are in (Shattrath for #1 and WSG for #2) while the line where [Zone] is supposed to show is empty |
| 08:57.59 | ckknight | abyssichate: see, that doesn't work, cause [Faction] can't return the zone on players or pets, since it doesn't scan the tooltip if they are a player or pet |
| 08:58.05 | ckknight | unless you're out of date |
| 08:58.32 | abyssichate | I am using the r41831 which should be the latest on the SVN |
| 08:58.39 | ckknight | hrm |
| 08:58.41 | ckknight | odd |
| 08:58.48 | ckknight | okay, hover over your party member |
| 08:58.55 | abyssichate | Yes |
| 08:58.58 | ckknight | and type /print UnitPlayerControlled("mouseover") |
| 08:59.05 | ckknight | and /print UnitIsPlayer("mouseover") |
| 08:59.17 | abyssichate | ok |
| 08:59.57 | abyssichate | /print UnitPlayerControlled("mouseover") returns nil |
| 09:00.11 | ckknight | ugh |
| 09:00.13 | abyssichate | /print UnitIsPlayer("mouseover") returns 1 |
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| 09:00.55 | cncfanatics | hello all :) |
| 09:00.59 | cncfanatics | my realm is down :'( |
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| 09:01.10 | nevcairiel | haha |
| 09:01.26 | nevcairiel | didnt they do rolling restarts today? |
| 09:01.31 | nevcairiel | why is yours down ? :P |
| 09:01.39 | cryogen | some are down for extended maintainence |
| 09:01.43 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r41857 10DogTag-1.0/DogTag-1.0/DogTag-1.0.lua: DogTag-1.0 - update [Faction] player check, cause Blizzard's APIs are painfully sucky. |
| 09:02.19 | theoddone33 | just watched the nihilum illidan movie |
| 09:02.21 | abyssichate | so, [Faction] will not show their location now, right? |
| 09:02.24 | theoddone33 | love that stuff |
| 09:02.32 | cncfanatics | hmmm, anyone a lot of experience with waterfall ? |
| 09:02.35 | cncfanatics | I'd need some help |
| 09:02.39 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r41858 10CowTip/Text/Text.lua: CowTip_Text - update player check for faction line, cause Blizz sucks |
| 09:02.39 | ckknight | abyssichate: right |
| 09:02.51 | abyssichate | Which should be showed by [Zone], but [Zone] - unless you modified anything in that revision - returns an empty string |
| 09:03.54 | NeoTron | man almost got mag, gruul, VR and hydross in one night.. wiped on hydross at 4% due to one of the tanks dying :( |
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| 09:05.12 | Roartindon_ | NeoTron: how long do you raid for? |
| 09:05.26 | cncfanatics | bleh, anyone know how to have a text field with a button next to it ? can have a text field, or a button, but can't seem to manage to get both next to eachother :p |
| 09:05.31 | cncfanatics | (with waterfall) |
| 09:06.04 | ckknight | abyssichate: zone should show it now |
| 09:06.13 | NeoTron | 4 hrs |
| 09:06.33 | NeoTron | 21:00-01:00 |
| 09:06.43 | abyssichate | ckknight: okei, thanks |
| 09:07.10 | FISKER_Q | always blaming everyone else ckknight tsk |
| 09:08.36 | Roartindon_ | NeoTron: Do you kill Al'ar aong the way? |
| 09:09.19 | Iceroth | we wiped on VR yesterday, 2% and then trash spawn tail got us -.- |
| 09:09.41 | nevcairiel | you are too slow then :P |
| 09:09.41 | Roartindon_ | Iceroth: d'oh... |
| 09:09.43 | Iceroth | and it was too late to start clearing again |
| 09:09.44 | nevcairiel | VR is really a one shot |
| 09:10.09 | Iceroth | was our first try and well.. we've never really shined on those idioticy check bosses.. |
| 09:10.35 | Fisker- | yeah nevcairiel |
| 09:10.36 | xt | we killed VR on our first _attempt_ |
| 09:10.38 | xt | lol |
| 09:10.40 | Fisker- | i got totally pwned by our former guild |
| 09:10.51 | Fisker- | "So you say we're not a good raiding guild?" |
| 09:11.05 | Fisker- | "Well we just took Void Reaver in our 3rd attempt so take that" |
| 09:11.10 | Fisker- | i lol'd |
| 09:11.14 | nevcairiel | heh |
| 09:11.15 | Fisker- | also |
| 09:11.17 | CIA-22 | 03scorpio0920 * r41859 10Omen/localization_zhTW.lua: Omen: Tweak some zhTW typo. |
| 09:11.26 | Fisker- | They only had 5 people attuned pre-2.1.2 |
| 09:11.39 | nevcairiel | we had our first trys on Kaelthas yesterday |
| 09:11.43 | nevcairiel | really cool fight |
| 09:12.03 | Iceroth | heh, we didn't have many attuned to the eye either |
| 09:12.08 | abyssichate | Yeah, it's fun |
| 09:12.38 | nevcairiel | we had like everybody attuned |
| 09:12.55 | nevcairiel | except some new trials |
| 09:13.04 | Pheredhel | okm now i can test ^^ |
| 09:13.43 | Iceroth | too bad they lifted the attunement, would have been some natural selection who gets to raid and who don't... our raid leader is just too kind to the noobs -.- |
| 09:13.58 | Fisker- | yeah |
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| 09:14.22 | Fisker- | If you can't get people to complete TK and SSC attunement then your guild sucks raidingwise |
| 09:14.40 | cncfanatics | bleh, my current guild is starting karazhan today |
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| 09:15.38 | Iceroth | it's not even a guild but bunch of ppl from several guilds |
| 09:16.46 | cncfanatics | a guild that exists since 2 weeks on my server got void reaver down btw lol |
| 09:16.54 | cncfanatics | they skipped ssc, wonder how far they're going to get |
| 09:17.02 | Iceroth | there's one definite plus in that arrengement though, we get to laugh at the noobs in our gchat all the time |
| 09:17.11 | abyssichate | A guild that couldn't kill Morogrim on my server killed Voidreaver at the second try or so |
| 09:17.11 | Fisker- | skipping SSC is retarded |
| 09:17.23 | abyssichate | you need vashj for hyjal anyway |
| 09:17.23 | nevcairiel | you cannot "skip" ssc, unless you only want to do TK for the end of your live :P |
| 09:17.26 | cncfanatics | Fisker-, I know, i'll laugh at them when they can't get any further in TK :p |
| 09:17.41 | cncfanatics | they wont finish TK with kara gear |
| 09:17.46 | Fisker- | abyssichate my previous guild couldn't do that |
| 09:18.10 | nevcairiel | we have everything except Kaelthas for Hyjal now |
| 09:18.14 | nevcairiel | i hope it doesnt take us too long |
| 09:18.19 | cncfanatics | bleh, i'm a palatank now, and its so damn hard to find a guild to MT :p |
| 09:19.01 | abyssichate | never had a palatank in raids |
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| 09:19.12 | CIA-22 | 03airochen * r41860 10Sanity2/ (Sanity2.toc localization_zhTW.lua): Sanity2: add localization_zhTW |
| 09:19.31 | Iceroth | we have a holy pala with stormherald, our retri pala is quite broken :p |
| 09:19.53 | Iceroth | he has only deep thunder |
| 09:20.01 | cncfanatics | abyssichate, I MTd whole kara with my old guild, but never any further |
| 09:20.07 | Iceroth | (i hope i got the names right) |
| 09:20.18 | cncfanatics | stormherald is level 3, deep thunder level 2 |
| 09:20.20 | abyssichate | yeah, kara is probably doable |
| 09:20.22 | cncfanatics | think ur right Iceroth |
| 09:20.37 | abyssichate | we are at archi in hyjal and mother in bt, so I don't know how a pala would work otu |
| 09:20.39 | abyssichate | *out |
| 09:20.42 | cncfanatics | abyssichate, hopefully some buffs will come by the time i'm done with kara, starting with my new guild today |
| 09:20.49 | abyssichate | good luck! |
| 09:20.54 | cncfanatics | bleh |
| 09:20.57 | cncfanatics | may we find enough healers |
| 09:21.58 | abyssichate | shadowpriests! |
| 09:22.20 | Fisker- | why do the draenei use hippograph's as taxis instead of flying elephants? |
| 09:22.27 | Fisker- | or spaceships |
| 09:22.47 | cncfanatics | tbh, they shld use spaceships ^^ |
| 09:22.57 | NeoTron | Roartindon_: we're not yet at alar |
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| 09:23.15 | NeoTron | just Void Reaver and in SSC we have hydross/lurker down and morogrim to 52% the fight night |
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| 09:23.44 | nevcairiel | TK is way too easy anyway |
| 09:23.45 | NeoTron | our second VR kill only |
| 09:23.48 | nevcairiel | except Kael |
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| 09:28.36 | cncfanatics | hmm, anyone, how does a string-indexed validate work with text fields ? (in aceoptions) |
| 09:28.37 | Roartindon_ | nevcairiel: Any comments on making Al'ar easier? We tried him for the first time last week |
| 09:28.44 | Roartindon_ | nevcairiel: Phase 1 is simple, no deaths, reliable play |
| 09:28.58 | Roartindon_ | nevcairiel: Phase 2 has our healers poppig off slowly, until we lose tanks and die |
| 09:29.05 | Roartindon_ | nevcairiel: Got him down to 5% phase 2 |
| 09:29.23 | Xuerian | dammit.... |
| 09:29.29 | Xuerian | wtb [Functional Yatlas] |
| 09:29.35 | nevcairiel | why are your healers dieing? |
| 09:29.47 | art3mis | not enough paladins ;P |
| 09:30.15 | Roartindon_ | nevcairiel: charge+melee+flame buffet tick soon after landing |
| 09:30.42 | nevcairiel | well nothing you can do against charge+melee |
| 09:30.55 | nevcairiel | but flame buffet should be avoidable |
| 09:31.07 | Roartindon_ | well, they take all 3 within a couple of seconds of meteor |
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| 09:31.11 | xt | Roartindon_: how much hp does your healers have? |
| 09:31.13 | CIA-22 | 03airochen * r41861 10SanityItemCache/ (SanityItemCache.toc localization_zhTW.lua): SanityItemCache: add localization_zhTW |
| 09:31.15 | Roartindon_ | Flame buffet never hits us more than once |
| 09:31.21 | Roartindon_ | xt: I'm guessing 10.5k-11k |
| 09:31.31 | xt | should be sufficient |
| 09:31.36 | nevcairiel | if you get charged and the swing timer is ready |
| 09:31.39 | nevcairiel | everyone dies |
| 09:31.58 | xt | yeh |
| 09:32.01 | Roartindon_ | So basically, battlerez and soulstone up? |
| 09:32.22 | xt | we mostly have problems with tanks dieing |
| 09:32.24 | xt | never healers |
| 09:32.34 | nevcairiel | well it sounds like you dont have any serious issues |
| 09:32.43 | nevcairiel | you cannot stop charge |
| 09:33.12 | Roartindon_ | We get to go with mroe than one druid and 2 warlocks this week... maybe that'll save us :) |
| 09:33.21 | xt | how many spriest do you run with? |
| 09:33.25 | Roartindon_ | xt: none |
| 09:33.29 | nevcairiel | we have 2 ferals and 2 resto druids |
| 09:33.29 | Roartindon_ | xt: generally none |
| 09:33.33 | nevcairiel | thats alot of combat rezz :P |
| 09:33.34 | xt | ok, that's why you fail |
| 09:33.39 | xt | i can tell you right now |
| 09:33.51 | xt | you need 2 spriests and 3 locks in every raid :D |
| 09:34.09 | Roartindon_ | Our kara group runs with 0 spriests and 0 locks :( |
| 09:34.20 | Roartindon_ | And our first kills in SSC were without SPriests |
| 09:34.23 | Roartindon_ | but 3 locks |
| 09:34.23 | EkZ|Frater | macro user mage in the place ? |
| 09:34.30 | Iceroth | our locks suck, never near the top on dmg :-/ |
| 09:34.31 | Aenslaed | heh, we had so many problems with alar tonight. Got him down eventually though |
| 09:34.38 | Aenslaed | thank god they fixed his hitbox finally |
| 09:35.22 | Aenslaed | and I think they lowered the damage on flame patch. It was only ticking for 2500 once every 3 seconds |
| 09:35.26 | nekoh | it is fixed ? |
| 09:35.32 | nekoh | <3 |
| 09:35.43 | abyssichate | xt: more likely 3 shadow priests and 4 warlocks |
| 09:35.50 | Aenslaed | yeah, the hitbox is fairly large now. Its still shitty for melee, but its better than how it used to be. |
| 09:36.06 | nekoh | we're also taking 2-3 sps and 3-4 locks |
| 09:36.35 | Aenslaed | 2 sps, 2 locks for us. |
| 09:36.38 | xt | shadow synergy is just so good |
| 09:36.45 | nekoh | true |
| 09:37.01 | Roartindon_ | Aenslaed: we did have our best dps ever on magtheridon last week tho :) |
| 09:37.09 | Roartindon_ | Aenslaed: Killed al 5 channelers, then sat around for 10 seconds for mag to release |
| 09:37.31 | Aenslaed | heh, not bad |
| 09:37.50 | Aenslaed | al'ar isn't so much a dps fight but an efficiency fight. |
| 09:38.36 | nevcairiel | i hope we can do alot in ssc today |
| 09:38.45 | nevcairiel | after reset and all |
| 09:38.46 | Aenslaed | how quickly can you kill the embers and move onto al'ar. How little damage/dying can be prevented. etc etc. |
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| 09:46.33 | Nargiddley | cncfanatics, using an aceoptions table with waterfall or the api ? |
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| 09:48.12 | Wobin | omen no longer works solo? |
| 09:48.36 | [Ammo] | you can tcick it on solo |
| 09:49.03 | Wobin | Even with "Active while solo" checked it doesn't show anything =( |
| 09:51.09 | cryogen | does omen have an option to remember that you dont want it displayed yet? |
| 09:51.56 | CIA-22 | 03tornhoof * r41862 10Yata/ (TotemBar.lua TotemButton.lua): |
| 09:51.56 | CIA-22 | Yata: |
| 09:51.56 | CIA-22 | - Fixed small gap between control buttons |
| 09:51.56 | CIA-22 | - Removed own tooltip hook, using HookScript now |
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| 09:52.15 | Kirkburn|sleep | Wobin, it worked for me this morning |
| 09:52.31 | Kirkburn|sleep | However, that was from a download of 8ish hours ago |
| 09:52.36 | abyssichate | ckknight: it works perfectly now |
| 09:52.46 | EkZ|Frater | sorren's timer doesn't shows cooldowns anymore ? |
| 09:53.24 | CIA-22 | 03arkayenro 07v2beta * r41863 10ArkInventory/ (ArkInventory.lua Locale/enUS.lua ReadMe.txt): |
| 09:53.24 | CIA-22 | ArkInventory: |
| 09:53.24 | CIA-22 | - bank item bug fix |
| 09:53.56 | Wobin | nope =( |
| 09:54.01 | Wobin | not showing up any threat |
| 09:54.14 | Pheredhel | ckknight: http://ace.pastey.net/69940 the output of PrintLiteral(info) |
| 09:54.30 | Pheredhel | after sheeping a chicken and then killing it myself |
| 09:54.42 | Kirkburn|sleep | Wobin, are you saying the window shows, but doesn't populate? or that the window doesn't show |
| 09:55.26 | Wobin | The Omen bar is there |
| 09:55.26 | cncfanatics | surprise surprise, maintenance got extended |
| 09:55.34 | Wobin | but no bars appear below it to indicate threat |
| 09:55.45 | Kirkburn|sleep | cncfanatics, only about 6 realms no? |
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| 09:57.53 | Xuerian | http://youtube.com/watch?v=UBAoFIBrqbU |
| 09:57.54 | Xuerian | XD |
| 09:59.18 | cncfanatics | Kirkburn|sleep yea and mine is in it |
| 09:59.25 | cncfanatics | and the login server is down too, so u better not logout |
| 10:00.43 | abbat_w | Pheredhel, you want make mod for annonce who break sheep? |
| 10:01.03 | Pheredhel | not only but ye |
| 10:01.24 | abbat_w | Hmm... i make it with msbt |
| 10:01.32 | Pheredhel | msbt ? |
| 10:01.46 | abbat_w | mod like sct but better for me |
| 10:02.19 | abbat_w | btw you can look at BigBrother |
| 10:02.40 | abbat_w | this mod monitor who break sheep and send message to chatframe |
| 10:02.44 | Pheredhel | BigBrother is ... let's forget, it only can see sheep |
| 10:03.03 | Pheredhel | it's only usable in enUS and enGB as it is not localized |
| 10:03.05 | Jaxon | Because as far as I know, Sheep is the only CC that you actually get a message for who breaks it through the Client. |
| 10:03.22 | Pheredhel | no It's not |
| 10:03.46 | Pheredhel | right now my addon works for sheep, and freezing trap for shure |
| 10:03.57 | Pheredhel | others should work too, but are not testet yet |
| 10:04.06 | abbat_w | hmm... |
| 10:04.46 | abbat_w | But only break polymorph have own message in combat log |
| 10:05.10 | Pheredhel | also localisation works, and I'm working to make it a Fubar plugin |
| 10:05.40 | Pheredhel | freezing trap is tested, it works, and reports who broke the trap |
| 10:07.34 | Pheredhel | if i have time this evening i will test it with shackle undead |
| 10:08.35 | Pheredhel | as i have no druid, warlock or rogue , i can't test hibernate, entangling roots, seduction or sap right now |
| 10:09.02 | Iceroth | i doubt braking roots would give any meaningful message |
| 10:09.21 | Arrowmaster | roots wont since its a chance on hit to break not a break on damage |
| 10:09.26 | Iceroth | it breaks even if you happen to look at the direction |
| 10:09.40 | Iceroth | and twice as likely to break if you are not looking at it |
| 10:09.41 | Arrowmaster | add gouge to the list of stuff to test |
| 10:10.27 | Pheredhel | ok |
| 10:10.33 | cncfanatics | Pheredhel, rogues get sap at lvl 12 |
| 10:10.36 | cncfanatics | u could test that easely |
| 10:11.12 | cncfanatics | but now i'm going to install a debian box while my realm is offline, bye all :p |
| 10:11.17 | Pheredhel | na right now i'm happy that my farmhunter got to 20, I will test it with some guildmates |
| 10:14.37 | Pheredhel | hmm, does gouge make any sense here? as 4 sek don't seem to make that much sense as CC |
| 10:14.38 | sbu | uhm - BigBrother works with traps? |
| 10:14.38 | Pheredhel | no |
| 10:14.38 | Pheredhel | only with polymorph |
| 10:14.38 | sbu | ah hm |
| 10:14.38 | Pheredhel | and only on english clients |
| 10:14.38 | abbat_w | missdirection / polymorph |
| 10:14.38 | sbu | YOUR addon works with traps? :p |
| 10:14.57 | Pheredhel | right now it does yes |
| 10:15.13 | Arrowmaster | i only said gouge because its one of the break on any damage CCs which would be the only type that would give a combat log message |
| 10:16.00 | sbu | Pheredhel: wtb :p |
| 10:16.43 | Pheredhel | as soon as it works with the basic things i want it to have, I will talk to somebody to get an ace svn account |
| 10:17.10 | Pheredhel | right now the menu is a mess, and I have no filters for pets ;) |
| 10:17.34 | Pheredhel | 2 or 3 days and it should hopefully be usable |
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| 10:28.11 | CIA-22 | 03Leialyn * r41864 10BigWigs/BlackTemple/Teron.lua: BigWigs: BlackTemple/Teron: updated deDE |
| 10:33.23 | CIA-22 | 03nargiddley * r41865 10Baggins/ (Baggins-Filtering.lua Baggins.lua): Baggins: Fix for 'attempt to index upvalue 'dewdrop' (a nil value)' when editing rules |
| 10:35.45 | Fisker- | so iphone failed ;D |
| 10:35.54 | Fisker- | i came |
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| 10:39.07 | sbu | Fisker-: so? |
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| 10:41.55 | Fisker- | It's not a phone, and thus it is funny |
| 10:42.00 | Fisker- | and thus i came and lol'd |
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| 10:52.35 | evl | any smoother way of writing this?: |
| 10:52.40 | evl | string.format("|cff%2x%2x%2x%s|r", min(r * 255, 255), min(g * 255, 255), min(b * 255, 255), value) |
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| 10:53.34 | Funkeh` | hey |
| 10:54.22 | mikma | Funkeh`: aren't you the "funky dude" or something like that |
| 10:54.46 | Funkeh` | right |
| 10:55.11 | mikma | i think i have your irl-buddy in samy guild with me. :( |
| 10:55.16 | mikma | same* |
| 10:55.58 | Funkeh` | aren't you in the US? |
| 10:56.13 | mikma | no |
| 10:56.33 | Funkeh` | what guild/server are you in and whats hes nickname |
| 10:58.59 | CIA-22 | 03fenlis * r41866 10LittleWigs/ (6 files in 2 dirs): |
| 10:58.59 | CIA-22 | LittleWigs: |
| 10:58.59 | CIA-22 | <PROTECTED> |
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| 11:01.30 | Funkeh` | ~seen sylvanaar |
| 11:01.39 | purl | sylvanaar <n=sylvanaa@205-196-182-22.static.cmts1.phonoscope.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 19h 41m 21s ago, saying: 'vacation time - see ya'll laterz'. |
| 11:01.54 | CIA-22 | 03celellach * r41867 10AtlasLoot/Instances/ (burningcrusade.en.lua instances.en.lua): |
| 11:01.54 | CIA-22 | AtlasLoot: |
| 11:01.55 | CIA-22 | - Small fix |
| 11:01.57 | Funkeh` | if hes on vacation who is releasing wau updates |
| 11:04.20 | CIA-22 | 03fenlis * r41868 10Proximo/ (Proximo.toc localization-koKR.lua): |
| 11:04.20 | CIA-22 | Proximo : |
| 11:04.20 | CIA-22 | <PROTECTED> |
| 11:04.26 | vhaarr | kael, ktp? |
| 11:04.31 | vhaarr | Funkeh`: ask in #wau |
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| 11:05.06 | Funkeh` | well someone has bugged the altest version >.< |
| 11:05.09 | Kneebracehead | the lst thing remaining on my minimap is my new mail indicator |
| 11:05.24 | Funkeh` | 'removed embeds.xml cleaning code' whihc is needed so that there is no error |
| 11:05.34 | Funkeh` | gg |
| 11:08.00 | CIA-22 | 03fenlis * r41869 10PlayerMenu/ (Locale.koKR.lua PlayerMenu.toc): |
| 11:08.00 | CIA-22 | PlayerMenu: |
| 11:08.00 | CIA-22 | - Added translation koKR |
| 11:08.45 | Funkeh` | '<!-- Removed by files.wowace.com for no-ext zip. -->' whoever made that change to the wowace script FYI it is not woking |
| 11:09.01 | Funkeh` | the file exists in no-ext zips |
| 11:10.43 | CIA-22 | 03fenlis * r41870 10VanasKoS/ (VanasKoSLocals.lua modules/PvPDataGatherer.lua): VanasKoS: -Updated localization koKR |
| 11:12.25 | CIA-22 | 03saroz * r41871 10sRaidFrames/sRaidFrames.lua: sRaidFrames: Fix whitelist (Dry code) |
| 11:12.45 | Pheredhel | does wow use cymk colors to color texts ? |
| 11:13.01 | JoshBorke | cymk? |
| 11:13.30 | evl | no |
| 11:13.35 | evl | it uses AARRGGBB |
| 11:13.37 | evl | where AA is the alpha |
| 11:14.04 | Pheredhel | ah, thanks, just wondered why it is a 4 byte code |
| 11:14.29 | Pheredhel | cymk = cmyk sry ^^ |
| 11:16.16 | Kneebracehead | is there an interface option to turn off chat buttons? |
| 11:16.40 | Kneebracehead | i swear there used to be one but i cannot find it for the life of me |
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| 11:17.04 | Pheredhel | there should be no such option |
| 11:17.04 | JoshBorke | no |
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| 11:19.48 | art3mis | evl: i read that as pirate colouring ;P |
| 11:20.11 | EkZ|Frater | hi, scuse my bad english |
| 11:20.17 | EkZ|Frater | does anyone has a good macro knowledge? |
| 11:20.24 | art3mis | kneebrace: there are in certain chat addons like phanxchat and simple chat |
| 11:21.10 | Pheredhel | EkZ|Frater: just ask what you want to know, if somebody knows, he/she will help |
| 11:21.13 | Funkeh` | pastamancer: ping |
| 11:21.15 | kbh | yay more addons! |
| 11:21.27 | art3mis | phanx+cirks chat manager is a nice combo |
| 11:21.37 | art3mis | both as tiny and do only what you expect them to do |
| 11:21.43 | EkZ|Frater | okay |
| 11:21.57 | art3mis | cirks has a neat built in feature that if you open it and click a channel you can see a full lsit of everyone it |
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| 11:22.10 | art3mis | in a non ugly comma seperated list |
| 11:22.24 | EkZ|Frater | im using a macro which switchs my weapons ( staff & wand ) and then cast evocation, this macro originally needs 2 left click to switch the stuff, a third leftclick to cast evocation |
| 11:22.39 | EkZ|Frater | and then 2 right clicks reequips the "normal" weapons |
| 11:23.08 | EkZ|Frater | the problem is that i bound the key |
| 11:23.10 | kbh | i would reccomend using outfitter, its what i use for my spirit/evo weapons |
| 11:23.12 | EkZ|Frater | the macro |
| 11:23.22 | art3mis | yup |
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| 11:23.36 | EkZ|Frater | atm i use too much add ons, i would like to reduce the amount of them used :< |
| 11:23.37 | art3mis | outfitter closertgnome itemrack |
| 11:23.43 | kbh | and just using evo automatically equips/de-equips see spirit leetness |
| 11:24.08 | art3mis | oh yeah outfitter functions offa triggers doesnt it |
| 11:24.17 | `lugo | anyone here that can commit a bugfix to AddonLoader ? |
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| 11:24.59 | kbh | what i wanna know is, how the hell outfitter still works flawlessly |
| 11:25.07 | kbh | and it hasnt been updated in forever |
| 11:25.09 | mikma | so seems like Omen ain't that light after all! |
| 11:25.09 | mikma | http://wow-en.curse-gaming.com/downloads/details/4204/ |
| 11:25.15 | CIA-22 | 03fenlis * r41872 10Prat/Prat_Modules/modules/PopupMessage.lua: |
| 11:25.15 | CIA-22 | Prat: |
| 11:25.15 | CIA-22 | <PROTECTED> |
| 11:25.29 | art3mis | does install without externals actually remove the contents of the dirs when it installs or just overwrites so the lib directories that are in there already just dont load anymore |
| 11:25.52 | EkZ|Frater | and noone see a solution with macro using ? |
| 11:25.56 | Hjalte | art3mis, that depends on the updater i guess? |
| 11:26.07 | EkZ|Frater | the problem is that i can't right click with hotkey to reequip the original weapons |
| 11:26.50 | CIA-22 | 03fenlis * r41873 10Prat/ (4 files in 2 dirs): |
| 11:26.50 | CIA-22 | Prat: |
| 11:26.50 | CIA-22 | <PROTECTED> |
| 11:26.52 | Ixan | feature request for omen: a single movable bar which shows your threat % of tank on target |
| 11:26.55 | art3mis | mikma: he's forgetting that while it's running its also pushing and recieving data from ktm ;P |
| 11:27.03 | art3mis | thus causing unneeded over head |
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| 11:27.26 | art3mis | hjalte: well lets assume that im talking about wau ;P |
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| 11:28.16 | Hjalte | art3mis, I'm not using way myself, but doesnt it have a choice of either overwriting or deleting and reinstalling when updating? The answer to your question lies there. |
| 11:29.22 | art3mis | added a better version of 20.1 it was a bit rough. |
| 11:29.22 | art3mis | 20.1 b) fixed version number. KTM won't respect spoofed version messages. buffed framelist control. fixed couple Kael'thas speech. |
| 11:29.22 | art3mis | You're welcome to respond to versionrequest but don't try to pretend you have a current version of KTM, it means when your version stuffs up people think it's KTM's fault. versionresponce values |
| 11:29.25 | art3mis | hahaha |
| 11:29.37 | art3mis | no more using soemthing good and sending fake crap ;) |
| 11:30.01 | EkZ|Frater | hmm |
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| 11:30.20 | art3mis | hjalte: uh huh and if i felt like actually opening it and trying im sure i could find out all on my own, but since im in this channel and people use it it is so much simpler to ask here |
| 11:30.33 | EkZ|Frater | is it possible with a macro to switch weapons set with closetgnome/evo/reswitch ? |
| 11:30.40 | art3mis | but thats for imputting common sense into the mix and making me type more than i need to about it |
| 11:30.48 | art3mis | ehk: kinna |
| 11:30.55 | art3mis | you can bind "sets" to keys |
| 11:31.18 | EkZ|Frater | kk |
| 11:31.21 | EkZ|Frater | i'll try, thx |
| 11:31.44 | art3mis | im thinking that its possible with umm outfitter for it to actually macro the change then the spell cast though |
| 11:32.03 | art3mis | so change cloths with the bound button strike cast and then hit another o switch back |
| 11:32.08 | art3mis | or soemthing along though lines |
| 11:34.01 | art3mis | i think closetgnome and outfitter as actually capable of doing gear changes on events though |
| 11:34.31 | art3mis | like cast a spell it grabs the spell changes yer close and then casts |
| 11:34.36 | art3mis | or soemthing like that |
| 11:34.46 | Daemona | haha, gotta love KLHTM changelogs :D --> 20.1 b) fixed version number. KTM won't respect spoofed version messages. |
| 11:34.52 | EkZ|Frater | i successed with closetgnome |
| 11:34.58 | Daemona | You're welcome to respond to versionrequest but don't try to pretend you have a current version of KTM, it means when your version stuffs up people think it's KTM's fault. |
| 11:35.00 | EkZ|Frater | there is a command to swap sets |
| 11:35.12 | art3mis | hehe yeah daemona |
| 11:35.12 | omega_ | art3mis: gear change triggers global cooldown, no? |
| 11:35.12 | EkZ|Frater | smtg like /cg wear <set> |
| 11:35.31 | art3mis | omega_: on trinkets yes, on gear i dont believe so |
| 11:35.37 | Daemona | it does at least for weapons omega_ |
| 11:35.42 | kbh | not weapons/ranged |
| 11:35.47 | art3mis | so if you're not swapping a "use" item it should be an effect |
| 11:36.03 | art3mis | err shouldnt |
| 11:36.31 | kbh | hmm.. wondering if swapping in +hit staff/wand would work for pyroblasts.. |
| 11:36.42 | art3mis | yup |
| 11:36.54 | art3mis | but you wouldnt be able to swap back out til the end of combat |
| 11:36.55 | kbh | hax! |
| 11:37.04 | kbh | naw |
| 11:37.13 | kbh | you can swap weapons in combat |
| 11:37.26 | kbh | nefarion hunter class call! |
| 11:37.47 | omega_ | you can swap weapons in combat, yes, but it triggers gcd |
| 11:37.50 | art3mis | kbh: i believe they chanced a bit of stuff in the ragard too |
| 11:37.53 | art3mis | regard too |
| 11:37.54 | nevcairiel | that wouldve been alot funnier if you couldnt swap weapons :P |
| 11:37.54 | omega_ | atleast on my rogue when I swap to dagger on stealth |
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| 11:38.07 | omega_ | they changed it so it triggers gcd |
| 11:38.12 | Wobin | >< |
| 11:38.17 | art3mis | nevcairiel: heh it was like that briefly ;P |
| 11:38.22 | kbh | so it pops gcd while in combat |
| 11:38.25 | nevcairiel | yeah weapon swap triggers gcd now |
| 11:38.38 | kbh | only in combat tho |
| 11:38.42 | art3mis | i used to swap wands and one patch i couldnt til the next tesday ppatch to fix it |
| 11:38.56 | Daemona | now? it has been that way for a VERY long time. |
| 11:39.15 | art3mis | yeah this was back around 1.8-1.9 |
| 11:39.23 | art3mis | for about 5 days |
| 11:39.41 | art3mis | someone fergot to exclude weapons from the list |
| 11:39.43 | cryogen | not as good as the shaman bug a while back |
| 11:39.45 | kbh | 74 +spirit for my evos btw :P |
| 11:39.55 | cryogen | what was it.. some skill triggered a cooldown of a year? |
| 11:40.05 | cryogen | global cooldown too |
| 11:40.11 | art3mis | its too abd they didnt make it mud style |
| 11:40.39 | kbh | how about that couple of weeks where hunters were getting lock pets after dismounting? that was good |
| 11:40.39 | art3mis | where you put on gear for initial and then you could swap out and not lose the dot bonuses and stuff |
| 11:40.47 | art3mis | hah |
| 11:41.15 | kbh | beastial wrath felgaurd for the pwn |
| 11:41.30 | cryogen | year log global coodown > that |
| 11:41.33 | cryogen | long |
| 11:42.25 | kbh | i like the newest druid one, with the treant thingy aggroing everything for like 70 yards to the target on occasion |
| 11:43.04 | kbh | watched a warrior get straight raped by every single mob outside karazhan |
| 11:43.17 | EkZ|Frater | d'oh |
| 11:43.20 | EkZ|Frater | it doesn't run |
| 11:43.22 | cryogen | lol |
| 11:43.24 | EkZ|Frater | :< |
| 11:43.29 | Gandharva | Antiarc|Work: http://www-en.curse-gaming.com/gallery/images/25706/omen-vs-ktm-cpu-usage/ |
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| 11:45.19 | CIA-22 | 03Leialyn * r41875 10AutoBarConfig/AutoBarConfig.xml: AutoBarConfig: - set min gapping to -5 |
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| 12:00.29 | Daemona | in cartographer that is ;) |
| 12:02.01 | Mikk | Daemona: Bugged, I'm guessing |
| 12:02.08 | Morghus | Anyone know why WowAceUpdater keeps crashing? >.> |
| 12:02.28 | Mikk | Prolly because of changes to files.wowace... and sylv is on vacation :S |
| 12:02.40 | yacoob | Daemona, you get the idea wrong. It displays map to 'locks. In case you play different class, it disables itself. |
| 12:02.43 | Daemona | Morghus what version? |
| 12:02.43 | yacoob | 8) |
| 12:02.44 | Morghus | It works the next time I load it |
| 12:02.53 | Morghus | Daemona: The latest. .16 |
| 12:03.15 | Morghus | Right. Managed to update now without crashing. |
| 12:03.17 | Daemona | hmmm running all the 1.9.x version without problems :/ |
| 12:05.26 | Morghus | Daemona: It's crashed on all my versions since some version I can't remember. 5 updates ago I think |
| 12:08.31 | sbu | Morghus: same here |
| 12:08.34 | sbu | well it runs fine |
| 12:08.38 | sbu | but after few hours it crashes :o |
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| 12:18.08 | Funkeh` | http://wow-en.curse-gaming.com/downloads/details/4204/#comment_272840 |
| 12:18.18 | Funkeh` | yeah right |
| 12:18.27 | Josh_Borke | silence you! |
| 12:19.40 | sbu | Funkeh`: hm - in combat? |
| 12:19.48 | Funkeh` | 10 minute combat yet |
| 12:19.56 | Funkeh` | i should have highlighted that in my post but i can't edit it |
| 12:20.12 | Funkeh` | oh yes i can |
| 12:20.14 | Funkeh` | lol |
| 12:25.51 | CIA-22 | 03ammo * r41877 10oRA2/Core.lua: oRA2: cut down on version broadcast spam when lots of people join a raid. |
| 12:25.59 | [Ammo] | happy now funkeh? |
| 12:26.00 | [Ammo] | :p |
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| 12:26.43 | evl | [Ammo]: would be nice if oRA2 could send a normal Blizzard ready-check first and have oRA2 squelch that and pop up a regular one |
| 12:27.08 | evl | s/regular one$/oRA2 one |
| 12:27.30 | Funkeh` | [Ammo]: well thats not really a solution like i said the ultimate solution is using whisper, because you are still processing all the crap from others you shouldn't be, whether now or in 5 seconds |
| 12:28.10 | evl | I've got oRA2 loaded just to get a ready check in raids, it's meh. |
| 12:29.39 | kenlyric | evl huh? |
| 12:29.45 | kenlyric | why don't you just send a normal one? |
| 12:29.54 | [Ammo] | because it sucks cock |
| 12:30.03 | [Ammo] | unless you use SRA (but that requires everyone to use it) |
| 12:30.04 | evl | well that's my point |
| 12:30.12 | evl | only the sender needs the fancy oRA2 |
| 12:30.18 | evl | everyone else just clicks yes or no |
| 12:30.20 | [Ammo] | no |
| 12:30.23 | evl | hardly need 420k of addon loaded for that |
| 12:30.36 | [Ammo] | you don't get feed back from the blizzard ready check |
| 12:30.37 | sbu | [Ammo]: what exactly is SRA? :/ |
| 12:32.22 | Mikk | purl, botmail for Kaelten: http://mikk.cjb.net/pre-commit-categories.awk |
| 12:32.27 | evl | [Ammo]: WW says: "This function initiates a raid ready check and will cause all raid members to receive a READY_CHECK event. Processing of the ready check results appear to be either server-side or internal to the client and do not seem to be directly available to the scripting sytem. The results are reported via a CHAT_MSG. Please update this description if you learn more about this mechanism." |
| 12:32.54 | evl | nvm, you need the return i guess :) |
| 12:32.57 | [Ammo] | evl: I know exactly what it does |
| 12:33.01 | Mikk | That sounds about right yeah |
| 12:33.08 | Mikk | I've done a ReadyCheckAnnouncer thingy |
| 12:33.15 | [Ammo] | evl: I implemented an extensive thing in SRA |
| 12:33.24 | kenlyric | I guess I have no idea. since TBC we've used the blizzard ready checks, since the an installation of CTRA/oRA could no longer be guaranteed. |
| 12:33.34 | [Ammo] | evl: that uses the blizzard readyheck |
| 12:33.37 | Funkeh` | why does blizzard one suck its exact same as oRA one they both say who clicked no theres not much else to it |
| 12:33.52 | [Ammo] | Funkeh`: then use SRA and be done with it |
| 12:34.06 | [Ammo] | you get a nice window with checks with SRA |
| 12:34.19 | Mikk | The blizzard one has a 30 second wait if someoen isn't clicking |
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| 12:34.30 | [Ammo] | yeah before it gives results |
| 12:34.34 | Mikk | And it's flukey too. Sometimes the results of the readycheck end up on the wrong raid member |
| 12:34.38 | kenlyric | do both of them ignore people outside the instance? |
| 12:34.39 | Mikk | Fuck knows how |
| 12:34.43 | Funkeh` | right but im not trying to be offensive but im not going to switch my guild when its less feature rich, if you understand |
| 12:34.46 | Mikk | Blizzard one is raid wide |
| 12:34.47 | sbu | [Ammo]: so SRA is extended oRA? |
| 12:35.00 | kenlyric | I mean, oRA/SRA, I know blizzard one doesn't |
| 12:35.03 | [Ammo] | sbu: figure it out for yourself |
| 12:35.07 | sbu | *sigh* :) |
| 12:35.22 | FISKER_Q | WTF |
| 12:35.29 | FISKER_Q | I think i need to rape someone |
| 12:35.33 | sbu | FISKER_Q: NO U |
| 12:35.37 | sbu | oh hm |
| 12:35.53 | [Ammo] | FISKER_Q: call 112 / 911 and tell em that |
| 12:36.01 | Funkeh` | 999 |
| 12:36.17 | Mikk | Err where's the number 999? |
| 12:36.23 | Funkeh` | thats the real number |
| 12:36.27 | Mikk | In what country |
| 12:36.38 | Funkeh` | afrika |
| 12:36.42 | Mikk | aho |
| 12:36.50 | Mikk | well, fisker is european, so the number is 112 :P |
| 12:36.51 | Funkeh` | the UK nublet |
| 12:37.22 | Mikk | 112 works in all of europe *smax* |
| 12:37.30 | Funkeh` | :o |
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| 12:37.55 | FISKER_Q | I think 911 as well is reserved and redirected to 122 |
| 12:38.16 | Pheredhel | Mikk : 112 should work allover europe (there are still some coutrys that don't have it) |
| 12:38.28 | FISKER_Q | but looks like some of my friends might've abused my CC |
| 12:38.38 | Mikk | nice friends |
| 12:38.54 | [Ammo] | Mikk: ready check results on wrong player? |
| 12:38.54 | FISKER_Q | yeah |
| 12:38.57 | [Ammo] | Mikk: that sounds bad |
| 12:38.57 | FISKER_Q | really nice |
| 12:39.04 | Funkeh` | you want to rape someone, i can imagine wht friends you have |
| 12:39.12 | Mikk | [Ammo]: Yeah, heck knows what's going on, but I've seen it happen. |
| 12:39.21 | yacoob | Mikk, "*smax*"? |
| 12:39.25 | Funkeh` | never seen that happen Mikk |
| 12:39.29 | Funkeh` | in the blizz one? |
| 12:39.29 | yacoob | that was actually a good game |
| 12:39.30 | Mikk | I start a readycheck, and get zero results. Some otehr guy in the raid tells me the results |
| 12:39.31 | FISKER_Q | I would guess they mistakenly might have let the recurring be instead of cancelling it |
| 12:39.35 | Mikk | In the bilzz one yeah |
| 12:39.39 | [Ammo] | Mikk: nice |
| 12:39.44 | [Ammo] | Mikk: well SRA handles that al right |
| 12:39.46 | Funkeh` | wierd |
| 12:39.54 | [Ammo] | since it distributes the results via comm as well |
| 12:39.58 | [Ammo] | so everyone has the results in their screen |
| 12:40.09 | Mikk | Yer, as long as people in the raid run something like that (or, heck, ReadyCheckAnnouncer), it's ok |
| 12:40.10 | [Ammo] | if only blizzards MT implementation wasn't so sucky |
| 12:40.38 | [Ammo] | Mikk: check out the SRA one :) |
| 12:40.58 | [Ammo] | it's basically the oRA2 results window for the blizzard ready check |
| 12:41.11 | evl | [Ammo]: we use ORA2 don't we? |
| 12:41.17 | kenlyric | it's hard to convince people to download mods just because you don't like the results blizzard ready check gives :) |
| 12:41.17 | [Ammo] | yeah we do |
| 12:41.20 | Mikk | Oho... But will it let my raid members know the results also? |
| 12:41.26 | [Ammo] | Mikk: yes |
| 12:41.28 | [Ammo] | well |
| 12:41.36 | [Ammo] | I can add a 'post check' announce |
| 12:41.37 | Mikk | only if they run sra? |
| 12:41.44 | Mikk | ah |
| 12:41.49 | [Ammo] | if they run SRA they get the results as you get em |
| 12:42.40 | [Ammo] | and it works in 5 mans which is neat ofcourse |
| 12:43.13 | Mikk | Btw, I need a reality check... I'm thinking of fluffing the vio menus so that e.g. "Report" won't show under Vio->Windows->1, but only in the window context menu... and some other similar stuff... Am I just wanting to overwork stuff? |
| 12:43.26 | [Ammo] | overwork |
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| 12:43.30 | Mikk | cheers :> |
| 12:43.31 | CIA-22 | 03gandharva * r41880 10Reslack/ (. Reslack.toc): Reslack: toc -> 20100 |
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| 12:44.20 | Mikk | (not that it'd be lots of work... couple lines of code max... but still :P) |
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| 12:45.40 | Funkeh` | well if sra ever gets a res monitor and mt frames i would switch without a blink of an eye, which it won't unfortunately :p |
| 12:47.51 | [Ammo] | Funkeh`: it might |
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| 12:48.27 | Funkeh` | [Ammo]: well i what i would add to the wishlist is res monitor and a simple replica MT frame of the blizz ones, because they suck and are ugly |
| 12:49.13 | Funkeh` | and the oRA ones are the sex <3 |
| 12:49.26 | Funkeh` | blizz mt frames + ora skin = win |
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| 12:51.08 | Azurewrath | mhm.. couldn't oRA just parse/set the Blizz MTs and display them? |
| 12:51.49 | [Ammo] | Azurewrath: yes it could, but there is no ordering in them |
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| 12:51.50 | Funkeh` | [Ammo]: not sure if its vio but my hunters are reporting their pets not being merged with it enabled |
| 12:52.09 | [Ammo] | it worked for my level 10 hunter |
| 12:52.15 | Azurewrath | [Ammo]: no ordering? Bah.. that sucks. |
| 12:52.20 | Funkeh` | our level 70 hunter lost like 80k damage |
| 12:52.32 | Funkeh` | we compared vio and WWS |
| 12:52.38 | Funkeh` | to note, he does not have vio |
| 12:52.41 | Funkeh` | i was recording |
| 12:53.16 | Azurewrath | latest revision of Violation? There was some Changelog yesterday about SW_FixLogstrings breaking some Violation dmg parsing |
| 12:53.18 | sbu | Funkeh`: mh - but blizz only supports 1 MT and 1 OT, right? |
| 12:53.25 | Funkeh` | no |
| 12:53.29 | Funkeh` | they support many |
| 12:53.41 | sbu | oh |
| 12:53.47 | Funkeh` | i don't use sw log shit |
| 12:54.42 | Fisker- | haha |
| 12:54.46 | Fisker- | it might be a blizztard screwup |
| 12:54.53 | Funkeh` | [Ammo]: could it be a problem when the hunter doesn't use vio? |
| 12:54.57 | Fisker- | A friend i once played for had a 3 month renewal 22/06 |
| 12:55.02 | Fisker- | same date and amount i paid for |
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| 12:55.04 | RogueShadow | Know anybody who raids' "o natural" and does well |
| 12:55.12 | Fisker- | However he doesn't have my card listed anymore, but only his own |
| 12:55.19 | Fisker- | But his card haven't been charged for it |
| 12:55.41 | Mikk | duh |
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| 13:17.57 | Orthwein | try my ace updater! http://aceupdater.googlecode.com/files/aceupdater.jnlp |
| 13:18.13 | Orthwein | (or even better, give me feedback and ask for features that you want) |
| 13:18.13 | Funkeh` | why |
| 13:18.16 | Hjalte | Meh. Bold really should be some of the best tanking gear pre-kara, which is so not the case now :( |
| 13:18.22 | Orthwein | Funkeh`: now you have me stumped |
| 13:18.27 | Funkeh` | :p |
| 13:18.34 | Orthwein | Funkeh`: because its prettier than the others and shows you incoming changelogs? |
| 13:18.45 | Funkeh` | sounds good |
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| 13:20.12 | Orthwein | (going to nag here first before spamming forums, so I dont get mauled) |
| 13:20.36 | |Kev| | have you got a ss? |
| 13:20.47 | |Kev| | (if it's prettier than the others :)) |
| 13:20.52 | Kuja^ | doesn't work for me here |
| 13:20.54 | Orthwein | good idea, yeah will upload one, one sec |
| 13:21.03 | Orthwein | Kuja^: any errors? do you have java installed? |
| 13:21.40 | Kuja^ | unsigned application is forcing full access to the system |
| 13:21.52 | Orthwein | and you said no? ;) |
| 13:21.57 | Kuja^ | java 1.6, actually |
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| 13:22.13 | Kuja^ | err no, it even didn't asked me |
| 13:22.19 | Orthwein | oh interesting, windows? |
| 13:22.23 | Orthwein | will test, thanks |
| 13:22.32 | Kuja^ | windows xp sp2 |
| 13:22.33 | RogueShadow | looked scary, I ran away. |
| 13:22.40 | Orthwein | RogueShadow: there there |
| 13:23.51 | Orthwein | |Kev|: http://aceupdater.googlecode.com/files/ss.png |
| 13:24.11 | |Kev| | I disagree, I think mau's prettier :P |
| 13:24.24 | Orthwein | the other nice thing is that it'll remember all your settings, which columns you want visible, how wide you set stuff, sorting, etc |
| 13:24.28 | Orthwein | url? |
| 13:24.42 | |Kev| | to mau, or a screenshot? |
| 13:24.46 | cryogen | java, brrr |
| 13:24.47 | Orthwein | either ;) |
| 13:24.52 | Orthwein | does it work on macs? |
| 13:25.02 | |Kev| | http://www.kismith.co.uk/images/macaceupdater/mau-icons2.png |
| 13:25.07 | Funkeh` | http://www.warcraftmovies.com/stream.php?id=42412 |
| 13:25.08 | Funkeh` | awesome |
| 13:25.10 | |Kev| | yes, macaceupdater works on macs :) |
| 13:25.15 | Orthwein | oh heh |
| 13:25.22 | Orthwein | last time I tried it it did some weird stuff |
| 13:25.56 | Orthwein | and it 1) doesnt let me sort 2) doesnt show me incoming changelogs |
| 13:26.23 | Orthwein | and it screwed with some file permissions when I tried it last time (I tried it before I wrote mine!) |
| 13:26.36 | cryogen | Orthwein: could of suggestions, 1) the table looks very very cluttered and messy 2) it isn't very professional to put "true" in a column denoting a yes or no |
| 13:26.40 | cryogen | s/could/couple/ |
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| 13:26.45 | Orthwein | ah yes, oops, bean meaning to fix that |
| 13:26.54 | |Kev| | Orthwein: you could have submitted a patch :p |
| 13:27.04 | Orthwein | |Kev|: not a coca weenie ;) |
| 13:27.08 | |Kev| | me neither |
| 13:27.30 | |Kev| | I wrote mau to learn cocoa, and it took me three evenings to first release |
| 13:27.31 | Orthwein | cryogen: for clutter, people can change the visible columns/expand/order them as they want, what would you suggest as a better initial default layout? |
| 13:27.52 | cryogen | latest version and category clash |
| 13:28.00 | cryogen | because the former is a number field and therfore right justified |
| 13:28.14 | Orthwein | aha |
| 13:28.16 | Orthwein | good catch |
| 13:28.27 | Orthwein | so make category a bit bigger, left align everything? |
| 13:28.27 | cryogen | my eye was drawn immediately to it |
| 13:28.45 | Orthwein | yeah now that you point it out it makes perfect sense, guess I was staring at it too long to figure out why it was botherin gme too |
| 13:28.49 | cryogen | maybe put category to the left of local version? |
| 13:28.57 | Orthwein | k |
| 13:29.16 | cryogen | the right visually just seems to be crammed full of stuff |
| 13:29.23 | cryogen | i know it's not, but it looks that way |
| 13:29.33 | Orthwein | hm |
| 13:29.43 | cryogen | moving that column will look a lot nicer i think :) |
| 13:29.51 | Orthwein | ah right, in the table, yes, good idea |
| 13:30.18 | Orthwein | will left align them too, or the revision will make date look cluttered |
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| 13:30.48 | cryogen | right align date maybe? |
| 13:30.55 | Orthwein | k |
| 13:30.57 | cryogen | numbers look kinda bad left aligned |
| 13:31.09 | cryogen | dunno why |
| 13:31.19 | Orthwein | heh, k |
| 13:31.46 | |Kev| | numbers always look bad left aligned, because you expect column significance to be consistent |
| 13:32.53 | cryogen | Orthwein: incidentally this is more of a problem with the widget that you are using than anything youve done, it's pretty shoddy to mush columns so close together like that |
| 13:33.19 | Orthwein | yeah will add more padding |
| 13:34.12 | cryogen | as for functionality, im sure it's fine, but as it's java i wont touch it with a barge pole :p |
| 13:34.44 | Orthwein | so no matter how useful it is, you'll boycott it? |
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| 13:35.39 | cryogen | for serious use? probably. :) |
| 13:35.43 | |Kev| | lots of people feel quite strongly about Java |
| 13:35.43 | cryogen | same with wua2 |
| 13:35.48 | Orthwein | yeah |
| 13:35.50 | cryogen | i wont use that either |
| 13:35.59 | Orthwein | why, if you dont mind me asking? |
| 13:36.12 | Orthwein | I assume you have better reasons than just 'java sucks' ;) |
| 13:36.21 | cryogen | well, I code in c# for a living and hate java with a passion |
| 13:36.34 | Orthwein | ah, so political reasons? |
| 13:36.38 | cryogen | mainly :) |
| 13:36.45 | Orthwein | fair enough, cant argue with those ;) |
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| 13:37.17 | |Kev| | I won't use it purely because I already have mau |
| 13:37.32 | |Kev| | when I had mau, there wasn't really another option, and it scratched my itch |
| 13:37.36 | cryogen | although i will give you credit, it runs without me installing anything extra |
| 13:37.40 | cryogen | the same cant be said about wua2 |
| 13:37.58 | Orthwein | cryogen: yeah I'm trying hard to make it not be a standard lameass java app |
| 13:38.03 | |Kev| | and, well, swing just doesn't look as nice as cocoa :) |
| 13:38.07 | Orthwein | cryogen: with all the stereotype suckiness of those |
| 13:38.20 | Orthwein | |Kev|: true, but cocoa doesnt run on anything other than what you and I have! |
| 13:38.31 | |Kev| | that's ok, I use wau on windows :) |
| 13:38.36 | cryogen | incidentally it looks terrible on windows :) |
| 13:38.48 | cryogen | (another thing i hate about java, the toolkits/widget libraries suck) |
| 13:38.52 | Orthwein | cryogen: yeah, I'm testing onwindow and the table looks a bit....assy |
| 13:39.04 | |Kev| | I have no desire to compete with wau, else I'd have written something in Qt/C++ and it'd be a lot better than it currently is, because I'm fluent in that :) |
| 13:39.07 | Orthwein | cryogen: they used to, they're getting a lot better, but it takes time for that to filter through |
| 13:39.20 | cryogen | i've seen one decent app written in java, ever |
| 13:39.25 | cryogen | and that was Azureus |
| 13:39.27 | Orthwein | dont say azureus! |
| 13:39.28 | Orthwein | urgh |
| 13:39.36 | Tornhoof | azureus is a mess |
| 13:39.39 | Orthwein | yeah |
| 13:39.42 | Orthwein | its a horrible app |
| 13:39.43 | cryogen | the code might suck but at least it looks nice |
| 13:39.46 | abbat_w | ;) |
| 13:39.47 | abbat_w | idea |
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| 13:40.03 | abbat_w | whis is one of the best applications writen in java |
| 13:40.03 | Orthwein | its ugly, the controls make no sense, it doesnt look native |
| 13:40.15 | Orthwein | there arent any good consumer apps |
| 13:40.36 | cryogen | Orthwein: only have experience of running it on windows, and it's fine there :) |
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| 13:41.15 | cryogen | perhaps one day i will try to get wua 1.9 working on mono |
| 13:41.24 | cryogen | can't be that hard |
| 13:41.40 | Orthwein | except that mono sucks! |
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| 13:41.48 | Orthwein | does it even do winforms and whatnot yet? |
| 13:42.00 | cryogen | mono is great |
| 13:42.09 | cryogen | is has full .net 1.1 support, and 80%(?) 2.0 |
| 13:42.37 | |Kev| | Orthwein: partially, yes |
| 13:42.40 | cryogen | however, since microsoft are open sourcing .net soon, mon may become redundant |
| 13:42.51 | Orthwein | they are? That's quite nice |
| 13:42.56 | Orthwein | I'd use .net if it ran decently on macs |
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| 13:43.07 | Pheredhel | hmm, why ? |
| 13:43.12 | Orthwein | rather than being a red haired bastard child of some random linux hippies |
| 13:43.13 | cryogen | remember reading it somewhere.. not sure to what extent |
| 13:43.14 | Orthwein | why what? |
| 13:43.36 | Pheredhel | why would you want to use .net ? |
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| 13:43.47 | Orthwein | the language is as nice as java! |
| 13:43.52 | Orthwein | given that its derived from it ;) |
| 13:43.55 | Orthwein | erm |
| 13:43.56 | Orthwein | ducks! |
| 13:43.57 | Pheredhel | till now I havn't seen any avantage |
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| 13:44.11 | Orthwein | and knocking up nice looking native windows apps is veryeasy |
| 13:44.12 | Pheredhel | ok, i dont like java either... |
| 13:44.16 | cryogen | advantage to what? |
| 13:44.24 | |Kev| | Pheredhel: because you gain access to the common body of .net libraries, which are language-agnostic |
| 13:44.32 | |Kev| | I don't code in .net, but that's an appealing feature |
| 13:44.56 | Orthwein | beats python anyway |
| 13:45.01 | Orthwein | can we all agree to hate python at least? |
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| 13:45.08 | |Kev| | no |
| 13:45.15 | Pheredhel | never had to use python |
| 13:45.18 | |Kev| | Python has its place |
| 13:45.20 | cryogen | tool, job, etc.. |
| 13:45.21 | RogueShadow | hate phyton? bleh. |
| 13:45.22 | Orthwein | never! |
| 13:45.25 | |Kev| | same as most things |
| 13:45.35 | Orthwein | ruby? |
| 13:45.38 | Orthwein | lisp? |
| 13:45.41 | RogueShadow | not hatin ruby. |
| 13:45.43 | |Kev| | lisp certainly has a place |
| 13:45.44 | RogueShadow | ruby is cool |
| 13:45.47 | Orthwein | bah |
| 13:45.49 | Pheredhel | cu, on my way home |
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| 13:45.52 | Orthwein | you guys are a bunch of softies |
| 13:46.02 | |Kev| | I don't like ruby for non-language reasons |
| 13:46.07 | abbat_w | =) |
| 13:46.14 | abbat_w | python is nice |
| 13:46.20 | |Kev| | too many people believe themselves smart because they can code in ruby |
| 13:46.27 | RogueShadow | lol I would never say that. |
| 13:46.32 | RogueShadow | Ruby is just easy to use. |
| 13:46.32 | cryogen | Orthwein: well, it works.. |
| 13:46.32 | |Kev| | because they can write code that other people can't read |
| 13:46.36 | Orthwein | |Kev|: that's why it'd never become mainstream |
| 13:46.39 | cryogen | it's quite slow, but it works :) |
| 13:46.40 | |Kev| | same as some of the old perl bunch |
| 13:46.46 | Orthwein | |Kev|: yep! agreed wholeheartedly |
| 13:46.47 | abbat_w | easy to write, code can be understand w/o any language expirience |
| 13:46.48 | |Kev| | I find that a turn-off, irrespective of the language |
| 13:46.59 | |Kev| | abbat_w: yes, Python is executable pseudo-code |
| 13:47.12 | Orthwein | a language succeeds if you can get the average muppet to read your code and figure out how to add to it |
| 13:47.17 | Orthwein | its why VB is still popular |
| 13:47.28 | Orthwein | and why java is such a success |
| 13:47.35 | |Kev| | that's partially wrong, I believe |
| 13:47.40 | Orthwein | how so? |
| 13:47.47 | RogueShadow | You mean it's not java's crossplatformness? |
| 13:47.48 | |Kev| | VB is popular because any muppet can write it |
| 13:47.58 | |Kev| | not because you can read anyone else's code and add to it |
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| 13:48.09 | Orthwein | |Kev|: yes, fair point |
| 13:48.09 | |Kev| | imnsho |
| 13:48.23 | |Kev| | Java you can read almost anyone's code and understand it |
| 13:48.27 | |Kev| | even if they're not a great coder |
| 13:48.30 | RogueShadow | I used VB once, because I had a class for it. It was part of another program I didn't actually want a VB class. |
| 13:48.34 | |Kev| | and I consider than one of Java's main strengths |
| 13:48.44 | RogueShadow | But since I was there, I learned it and got 105% while sleeping through some of the class |
| 13:48.46 | Orthwein | hence its position in the enterprise, where maintenance and long lifetimes are crucial |
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| 13:49.22 | RogueShadow | And spent 90% of the time writing my own chat client to use at school |
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| 14:02.23 | Snago | ckknight: Think last commit to Parser-3.0 broke something. Both Omen and Assesment silently stopped working. When reverting to r41780 they started working again. |
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| 14:12.11 | Saroz | what does setting a handler in an AceOptions table do? |
| 14:14.05 | vhaarr | Saroz: it tells aceconsole and other implementations where to call func/get/set="StringMethod" functions |
| 14:14.13 | vhaarr | and disabled/hidden |
| 14:14.14 | Saroz | ahhh |
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| 14:25.32 | Cheads | ammo is working hard it seems =) |
| 14:25.44 | [Ammo] | naah |
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| 14:37.41 | nevcairiel | I was wondering, is there a new exploit in .pdf clients? I am getting ALOT of spam mails with .pdf attached |
| 14:37.56 | Stephmw | likewise |
| 14:38.00 | KriLL3|Sailing_ | not that I know of |
| 14:38.09 | KriLL3|Sailing_ | and why do you get spam? |
| 14:38.17 | nevcairiel | dunno |
| 14:38.20 | nevcairiel | spamassassin fails i guess |
| 14:38.30 | KriLL3|Sailing_ | I use gmail, no spam :> |
| 14:38.38 | Stephmw | I just notice em in my spambox |
| 14:39.04 | nevcairiel | i run multiple accounts over private mail servers |
| 14:39.12 | nevcairiel | with spamassassin and soem antivir thing |
| 14:43.36 | CIA-22 | 03ammo * r41895 10oRA2/Participant/ (Ready.lua Resist.lua Resurrection.lua): oRA2: more cleanups in participant modules, ready still needs work |
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| 14:49.57 | [Illuminati]Chao | hi 10?14¿10? |
| 14:50.07 | CIA-22 | 03rabbit * r41897 10oRA2/Participant/ (7 files): oRA2: Participant: Cleanup + bugfixes. |
| 14:50.21 | ChaosX | einer da 10?14¿10? |
| 14:50.29 | vhaarr | English. |
| 14:51.07 | Stephmw | please. |
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| 14:51.25 | ChaosX | oh 14o10O |
| 14:51.40 | ChaosX | you Ace addons 10?14¿10? |
| 14:51.49 | ChaosX | for warcraft 10?14¿10? |
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| 14:52.14 | ChaosX | i can not english 10^14^ |
| 14:52.33 | Ixan | is there a ace addon for buffs where you can customize exactly which buffs you want to show? I.E. on a separate bar |
| 14:52.35 | nevcairiel | hm, too bad, i guess |
| 14:52.52 | ChaosX | -.- |
| 14:52.58 | Azurewrath | ask in German if you want, i'll translate some stuff.. frag auf Deutsch wenn du willst, ich übersetz es.. |
| 14:53.02 | Megalon | Ixan: tried ElkBuffBars? |
| 14:53.10 | ChaosX | ok 10^14^ |
| 14:53.29 | ChaosX | wollte fragen ob es addons für jäger gibt |
| 14:53.31 | Ixan | Megalon: I'll try it out, but it looked like it would just show all. |
| 14:53.32 | Wobin | yay for multicilturalism |
| 14:53.46 | Wobin | s/cil/cul/ |
| 14:54.01 | Megalon | Ixan: you can create BarGroups, everyone of it can have it's own Whitelist or Blacklist |
| 14:54.07 | Azurewrath | He asked if there are some Addons for Hunters out there.. |
| 14:54.18 | Megalon | Ixan: and more filters based on time |
| 14:54.20 | Ixan | Megalon: ohhh, sounds just like what I need |
| 14:54.22 | ChaosX | so was wo ich sehen wie mein pet sich fühlt |
| 14:54.34 | Ixan | thx |
| 14:54.51 | Azurewrath | There are several i guess.. just browse files.wowace.com or any other addon-site.. es gibt viele.. guck am besten einfach auf irgendner addonseite :) |
| 14:54.54 | CIA-22 | 03ammo * r41898 10oRA2/Participant/ (MainTank.lua modules.xml): oRA2: participant cleanups and remove assist from modules.xml for leader |
| 14:55.11 | ChaosX | ich wollte ace addons weil die immer aktuel sind |
| 14:55.27 | CIA-22 | 03mikk 07Mikk * r41899 10Ace2/AceConsole-2.0/AceConsole-2.0.lua: AceConsole-2.0 (Mikk): Make multi-level passing groups work |
| 14:55.28 | ChaosX | die andreen sind so schnell müll nach updates |
| 14:55.35 | Megalon | Ixan: TENCH means temporary enchants, like poison/weapon oil etc |
| 14:55.43 | Azurewrath | He said he wants Ace Addons because those are kept up to date hehe |
| 14:56.01 | Megalon | Ixan: everything else is pretty intuitive |
| 14:56.04 | *** join/#wowace Wogroipl_ (n=Wogroipl@c529c7a0e.cable.wanadoo.nl) |
| 14:56.11 | ChaosX | ich verstehe garnix 10:14( |
| 14:56.19 | Ixan | Azurewrath: ace ftw =) |
| 14:56.24 | Funkeh` | i don't play a hunter so i have no idea |
| 14:56.30 | Wobin | What sort of addons are you looking for? |
| 14:56.31 | ChaosX | yes ftw 10^14^ |
| 14:56.32 | Ixan | every time I log in lootlink complains about something |
| 14:56.41 | Azurewrath | nuja, die meisten anderen Addons werden auch aktualisiert... solang der Author noch aktiv ist.. man muss nur regelmässig updaten. - Most of the other Addons are kept up to date as well, as long as the author is still active.. just update regularly |
| 14:56.45 | Ixan | at least with ace, there's an update with next checkout =) |
| 14:57.10 | ChaosX | also haben die keine für jäger 10?14¿10? |
| 14:57.21 | Funkeh` | Azurewrath: can you ask him what exactly he is looking for |
| 14:57.55 | Wobin | generally, I use AmmoFu and Nudge |
| 14:57.56 | Azurewrath | ChaosX: Wobin und Funkeh haben gefragt was exakt du suchst an Jäger-Addons? Castbars? Unitframes? Ammo-Anzeige oder sowas? |
| 14:58.12 | ChaosX | r |
| 14:58.14 | ChaosX | sry |
| 14:58.17 | Wobin | Hunter is such a cool word in german =P |
| 14:58.32 | ChaosX | etwas was mir die zufriedenheit meines pets zeigt |
| 14:58.43 | Wobin | KingOfTheJungle |
| 14:58.44 | ChaosX | weil die anderen addons zeigen es nicht die ich habe |
| 14:58.59 | Thorgard | Passe auf! |
| 14:59.02 | [Ammo] | was fur unitframes hast du? |
| 14:59.03 | Wobin | and FuzzyLogic |
| 14:59.13 | ChaosX | ich habe das interface von illuminati |
| 14:59.25 | [Ammo] | agUF und Pitbull zeigen die zufriedenheit beim color von healthbar |
| 14:59.25 | Azurewrath | He's searching for some Addon that displays the Happiness of his Pet, cause his other Addons do not display that stuff.. actually he seems to be a bit weird ;p |
| 14:59.31 | Wobin | hehe =) |
| 14:59.36 | Wobin | it's true |
| 14:59.40 | [Ammo] | (mein deutsch ist nicht so gut) |
| 14:59.46 | [Ammo] | haha |
| 14:59.52 | Azurewrath | hehe |
| 14:59.53 | liquiem | ammo, wth |
| 14:59.53 | Wobin | it's hard to find a unitframe with pet happiness |
| 15:00.04 | [Ammo] | agUF shows it by healthbar color for pet |
| 15:00.05 | Funkeh` | pitbull does? |
| 15:00.07 | [Ammo] | green, yellow, red |
| 15:00.10 | [Ammo] | pitbull does as well |
| 15:00.21 | liquiem | pet happiness? all i can say: [Name] [HappyIcon] ^^ |
| 15:00.30 | Mikk | Fubar_PetHappinesFu or sth? =) |
| 15:00.33 | ChaosX | pitbull 10?14¿10? 10m14oment |
| 15:00.40 | mikma | colors <3 |
| 15:00.43 | [Ammo] | rof |
| 15:00.56 | Wobin | If I didn't know better, I'd suspect he's spanish =P |
| 15:01.15 | *** join/#wowace `lugo (n=lugo@s1.millennium.info.pl) |
| 15:01.32 | Azurewrath | ChaosX: PitBull und ag_UnitFrames sollten den Kram anzeigen, ansonsten kannst du auch versuchen das ganze mit CowTip zu basteln.. denke aber das ist etwas zu kompliziert in dem Fall. - PitBull and ag_UF should display it, you may try CowTip too, but i guess that's a bit to complicated |
| 15:01.37 | Mikk | mañana mañana |
| 15:01.45 | ChaosX | also wen ich das recht verstehe kann pitbull es mir zeigen |
| 15:01.45 | Fisker- | MY EYES |
| 15:01.47 | Wobin | doo doo de doo doo |
| 15:01.49 | Fisker- | why did i look in here? :( |
| 15:01.52 | mikma | JAJAJAJAJAJAAA pollo pollo! |
| 15:01.54 | ChaosX | müsste es nur richtig einstellen 10?14¿10? |
| 15:02.03 | Kirkburn|afk | Fisker-, because you love it |
| 15:02.03 | Azurewrath | ChaosX: richtig |
| 15:02.23 | Wobin | Damn you Mikk |
| 15:02.23 | ChaosX | ah und was ist das für ein addon 15Fubar_PetHappinesFu |
| 15:02.31 | mikma | vaikutatte ihan tyhmiltä kun puhutte jotain muuta kun englantia :( |
| 15:02.33 | Wobin | I have the manah manah song stuck in my head now |
| 15:02.49 | Mikk | that was _not_ what i was referring to, but you're welcome to it :> |
| 15:02.52 | Azurewrath | ChaosX: ka.. ich denke mal das zeigts auch an ;) - Guess that should display it too |
| 15:03.07 | ChaosX | 10o14k |
| 15:03.11 | Kirkburn|afk | Gordon Brown is the new PM of the UK :O |
| 15:03.15 | Wobin | hurrah? |
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| 15:03.23 | Wobin | Does he have a flag? |
| 15:03.31 | Mikk | Wobin: http://mikk.cjb.net/fun/muppet_show_-_mahnahmahna.mpeg |
| 15:03.33 | Kirkburn|afk | Er, the Union Jack? |
| 15:03.35 | Wobin | Dashed cunning of him. |
| 15:03.37 | ChaosX | SRY for my english Very 10t14hanks und auch dir danke ohne dich wäre es schwer gewesen |
| 15:03.38 | Azurewrath | tu habla espanol? ;) |
| 15:03.51 | Azurewrath | ChaosX: np |
| 15:03.54 | Wobin | Mikk: <3 |
| 15:04.02 | Chompers | colours |
| 15:04.05 | ChaosX | bye 10:14) |
| 15:04.08 | Chompers | lots and lots of colours |
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| 15:05.05 | Azurewrath | weird guy.. |
| 15:05.25 | Kirkburn|afk | Those germans ... |
| 15:05.34 | Chompers | looks like an mirc script |
| 15:05.58 | Wobin | ~x de en Entschuldigen sie - kennen wir uns nicht von Irgendwoher?Haben wir vielleicht mal miteinander geschlafen oder so? |
| 15:05.59 | nevcairiel | Kirkburn|afk: shush |
| 15:06.00 | Azurewrath | Kirkburn|afk: stay on your isle ;p |
| 15:06.17 | Wobin | ~x de en Entschuldigen sie - kennen wir uns nicht von Irgendwoher? Haben wir vielleicht mal miteinander geschlafen oder so? |
| 15:06.47 | mikma | haha |
| 15:06.49 | nevcairiel | man thats a crappy translation :P |
| 15:06.56 | Wobin | ~botsnack |
| 15:06.56 | purl | Wobin: aw, gee |
| 15:06.57 | Azurewrath | jup.. |
| 15:07.04 | mikma | well he was still talking gaythings |
| 15:07.08 | Wobin | I reckon it's a pretty good translation for a bot =) |
| 15:07.41 | `lugo | anyone here that can commit a fix to AddonLoader ? |
| 15:07.44 | CIA-22 | 03rabbit * r41900 10oRA2/ (9 files in 3 dirs): oRA2: More cleanup. |
| 15:08.01 | Mikk | `lugo: yes |
| 15:08.26 | Azurewrath | ahh.. EndOfWork.. finally ;) |
| 15:08.46 | Kirkburn|afk | Azurewrath, you're on an island too, it's just ... bigger. |
| 15:08.56 | Azurewrath | hehe, right |
| 15:09.27 | *** join/#wowace nuoHep (i=nuoHep@85.192.55.242) |
| 15:10.01 | Mikk | `lugo: so, what do you want? |
| 15:10.56 | `lugo | Mikk: hmm, you're not getting my privs ? |
| 15:11.09 | Mikk | no, your nick isn't registered |
| 15:11.13 | Mikk | sec, i'll toggle my acct |
| 15:11.53 | Mikk | ok, try agin |
| 15:12.46 | sag_ich_nicht | [17:06] <nevcairiel> man thats a crappy translation :P <--yes |
| 15:12.52 | sag_ich_nicht | want a good translation? :P |
| 15:13.01 | sag_ich_nicht | well |
| 15:13.12 | *** join/#wowace espen (i=espen@flow.xyz.fi) |
| 15:13.13 | sag_ich_nicht | since you now figured out the meaning i guess that's not neccesairy anymore anyway |
| 15:13.30 | nevcairiel | sag_ich_nicht: nah i understand the original, but thanks :P |
| 15:13.32 | xt | anyone have a copy of that PowerAuras-replacement |
| 15:13.36 | xt | that Siraw is working on? |
| 15:13.44 | sag_ich_nicht | nevcairiel i see :D |
| 15:13.51 | xt | someone give him a svn account! |
| 15:15.11 | *** join/#wowace ie|Stiffe (n=lolz@81-231-242-209-no39.tbcn.telia.com) |
| 15:17.03 | sag_ich_nicht | LOL |
| 15:17.08 | sag_ich_nicht | 20.1 b) KTM won't respect spoofed version messages. |
| 15:17.21 | Cryect | what? |
| 15:17.27 | sag_ich_nicht | http://www-en.curse-gaming.com/downloads/downloads/35355/ |
| 15:17.30 | Cryect | how the hell does it know if they are spoofed? |
| 15:17.31 | nevcairiel | haha |
| 15:17.36 | pastamancer | magic! |
| 15:17.36 | deltron | lol |
| 15:17.38 | sag_ich_nicht | i don't know |
| 15:17.40 | sag_ich_nicht | go check |
| 15:17.40 | nevcairiel | he hacked in a omen detection? |
| 15:17.40 | sag_ich_nicht | :D |
| 15:17.44 | sag_ich_nicht | i guess |
| 15:17.48 | nevcairiel | wouldnt really surprise me |
| 15:17.55 | sag_ich_nicht | go and fix it. |
| 15:17.56 | Iceroth | lol wth :D |
| 15:18.02 | Cryect | Does he have some secure copyright code thats encrypted and we can't break unless we break the DMCA or something stupid :-p |
| 15:18.10 | sag_ich_nicht | lol |
| 15:18.12 | sag_ich_nicht | it's opensource |
| 15:18.16 | sag_ich_nicht | he can't encrypt it |
| 15:18.22 | sag_ich_nicht | i mean |
| 15:18.25 | sag_ich_nicht | he can encrypt it |
| 15:18.29 | deltron | I certainly wouldn't run a mod that is encrypted |
| 15:18.29 | sag_ich_nicht | but it's not secure |
| 15:18.35 | Mikk | WoW still needs to be able to open it |
| 15:18.39 | sag_ich_nicht | deltron so you don't run thottbot? :O |
| 15:18.42 | deltron | or obfuscated |
| 15:18.43 | sag_ich_nicht | well |
| 15:18.52 | sag_ich_nicht | thottbot is obfuscated, not encrypted |
| 15:18.54 | Cryect | of course so he has code that unencrypts it :-p |
| 15:19.05 | Antiarc|Work | Morning all. |
| 15:19.05 | deltron | nope |
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| 15:19.09 | deltron | not run thott in ages |
| 15:19.10 | sag_ich_nicht | Antiarc|Work take a look at this |
| 15:19.12 | Cryect | Not saying it means anything :-p |
| 15:19.13 | sag_ich_nicht | http://www-en.curse-gaming.com/downloads/downloads/35355/ |
| 15:19.23 | deltron | I am running the wowhead and wowdigger clients :P |
| 15:19.29 | |newbie| | sag_ich_nicht: nice nick |
| 15:19.40 | sag_ich_nicht | heh |
| 15:19.42 | nevcairiel | that says newbie |
| 15:19.43 | Antiarc|Work | Heh |
| 15:19.43 | nevcairiel | :P |
| 15:19.47 | CIA-22 | 03saroz * r41901 10sRaidFrames/ (14 files in 2 dirs): sRaidFrames: Moves locales to a directory |
| 15:19.49 | Saroz | Holy smokes batman! |
| 15:19.50 | Antiarc|Work | And so the Threeat lockout begins |
| 15:19.57 | |newbie| | :p |
| 15:20.03 | Saroz | TYPO |
| 15:20.07 | Antiarc|Work | Well, too mad for him. I can still read KTM data. He's just shooting himselve in the foot. |
| 15:20.09 | sag_ich_nicht | Antiarc|Work he can't really do anything. |
| 15:20.10 | Antiarc|Work | too bad* |
| 15:20.12 | Antiarc|Work | brb coffee |
| 15:20.21 | nevcairiel | we can prolly adjust |
| 15:20.22 | nevcairiel | somehow. |
| 15:20.27 | sag_ich_nicht | easily |
| 15:20.27 | sbu | hm no, why? |
| 15:20.33 | sbu | he doesnt want that to happen |
| 15:20.36 | sag_ich_nicht | so? |
| 15:20.40 | Orthwein | why would he do something like that anyway? |
| 15:20.42 | sbu | so okay, respect it and dont do it |
| 15:20.46 | Antiarc|Work | Oh, we can easily adjust |
| 15:20.48 | Cryect | the funny part is how does he plan to block spoof msgs |
| 15:20.52 | Antiarc|Work | The KTM source is there |
| 15:20.58 | sag_ich_nicht | sbu he doesn't respect the criticism from anyone here either |
| 15:20.58 | Antiarc|Work | So I can just reverse engineer and adapt it. |
| 15:20.59 | sag_ich_nicht | so |
| 15:21.01 | sag_ich_nicht | why respect him? |
| 15:21.10 | sbu | mh - why helping him? |
| 15:21.17 | Cryect | because guilds want it? |
| 15:21.20 | nevcairiel | we dont help "him" |
| 15:21.21 | *** join/#wowace Dotted (n=me@0x555157c7.adsl.cybercity.dk) |
| 15:21.23 | nevcairiel | we help the users |
| 15:21.24 | Cryect | and a lot of players are too lazy to update? |
| 15:21.29 | sag_ich_nicht | exactly nevcairiel |
| 15:21.32 | sbu | mhhm okay meh |
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| 15:21.40 | NightHawkTheSane | Oh god.. this hurts so much just to read.. http://worsethanfailure.com/Articles/Fd-Factorial.aspx |
| 15:21.43 | sag_ich_nicht | [17:19] <nevcairiel> that says newbie <--also my nick says that since 2000 :P |
| 15:21.54 | *** part/#wowace Nightdew_ (n=Nightdew@68.143.218.130.nw.nuvox.net) |
| 15:22.11 | nevcairiel | some people cannot be convinced to use Omen, so they stick to KTM .. now its good for us to support them too ;) |
| 15:22.11 | CIA-22 | 03mikk * r41902 10AddonLoader/AddonLoader.lua: AddonLoader: Make "disabled" aceoption directives be boolean like they should, to keep DeuceCommander from barfing out |
| 15:23.05 | sag_ich_nicht | http://www-en.curse-gaming.com/downloads/details/4204/#comment_272871 |
| 15:23.07 | sag_ich_nicht | erm |
| 15:23.13 | sag_ich_nicht | sorry for the bold, hit the button |
| 15:23.14 | sag_ich_nicht | >.> |
| 15:23.19 | sag_ich_nicht | anyway, go vote up my comment :O |
| 15:23.41 | Cryect | if me.spoofers[author] and value < 100 then |
| 15:23.41 | Cryect | return |
| 15:23.41 | Cryect | end |
| 15:23.45 | Cryect | great stuff |
| 15:23.48 | sag_ich_nicht | actually |
| 15:23.48 | sag_ich_nicht | wait |
| 15:23.55 | sag_ich_nicht | from his comment to the changelog |
| 15:23.57 | sag_ich_nicht | "You're welcome to respond to versionrequest but don't try to pretend you have a current version of KTM, it means when your version stuffs up people think it's KTM's fault. versionresponce values " |
| 15:24.22 | sag_ich_nicht | just make it respond with 66.6 as version then. |
| 15:24.26 | sag_ich_nicht | (or similiar) |
| 15:24.32 | mikma | which one is your comment |
| 15:24.50 | Cryect | -- check the message comes from this addon, and comes from the party or raid |
| 15:24.50 | Cryect | if (arg1 == "Thr") then |
| 15:24.50 | Cryect | me.spoofers[arg4] = true |
| 15:24.51 | Cryect | end |
| 15:24.53 | Cryect | thats it |
| 15:25.03 | Antiarc|Work | Hahahahahahahahaha |
| 15:25.05 | Cryect | he checks to see if it comes from Thr is all |
| 15:25.05 | Antiarc|Work | Hahahahahahahahaha |
| 15:25.13 | Antiarc|Work | He just locked out legit KTM users who also use Threat |
| 15:25.16 | Antiarc|Work | Ahahahahahaha |
| 15:25.23 | sag_ich_nicht | lol'd |
| 15:25.23 | deltron | lmao |
| 15:25.36 | deltron | threat is used in more than omen |
| 15:25.39 | deltron | what a jerk |
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| 15:25.51 | *** part/#wowace Nightdew_ (n=Nightdew@68.143.218.130.nw.nuvox.net) |
| 15:25.54 | Cryect | Antiarc|Work he might not of |
| 15:26.01 | Cryect | if the version number is greater than 100 |
| 15:26.07 | mikma | now |
| 15:26.08 | Cryect | it doesn't lock out the msg |
| 15:26.11 | Morgh | deltron: Not at all. He's a marketing genius that closes off and shields his users from the vile Threat-scum :P |
| 15:26.18 | mikma | make an anti-check for threat |
| 15:26.20 | sag_ich_nicht | more like |
| 15:26.27 | mikma | make him sorry he ever written that crap in |
| 15:26.32 | deltron | I'm so trying to get my guild to convert to threat |
| 15:26.38 | Antiarc|Work | Cryect: But KTM version numbers will be less than 100. |
| 15:26.39 | CIA-22 | 03rabbit * r41903 10oRA2/Options.lua: oRA2: Options: Don't create a new function every tooltip update. |
| 15:26.40 | Cryect | then again his version number is 20 |
| 15:26.43 | Orthwein | or just change the string threat sends out |
| 15:26.49 | Orthwein | ace updates more often, he'll lose |
| 15:26.51 | Antiarc|Work | He's just checking for the presence of Threat and then assuming they're spoofing. |
| 15:28.02 | Gnarfoz | does he disregard threat data from threat |
| 15:28.06 | Gnarfoz | or just version replies |
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| 15:28.14 | sag_ich_nicht | btw. Antiarc|Work the version check omen provides doesn't check for KTM versions atm, does it? |
| 15:28.34 | deltron | deleted my comment |
| 15:29.04 | sag_ich_nicht | if so it'd be great if you changed that to check if KTM and which KTM is present, because i'd like a feature to easily check if everyone in the raid has threatmeter >-> |
| 15:29.23 | Cryect | actually he only disregards version replies |
| 15:29.33 | Cryect | thats the only place where he does the check |
| 15:29.51 | Gnarfoz | so what, then |
| 15:30.08 | Cryect | shrug he's set it up so KTM users who also use threat dont' appear in version responses |
| 15:30.11 | Gnarfoz | threat doesn't need to pretend to be ktm, does it ^^ |
| 15:30.27 | Gnarfoz | yeah, that's of course stupid and short-sighted of him, but that's him ^^ |
| 15:30.42 | Cryect | He just doesn't want threat appearing in KTM version responses, which he could have asked |
| 15:30.48 | mikma | atleast i don't care do other people see my "klhthreatmeter" version or not |
| 15:31.00 | mikma | just as long as they see me in their threatmeter |
| 15:31.47 | CIA-22 | 03nekromant * r41904 10Babble-2.2/Babble-Boss-2.2/Babble-Boss-2.2.lua: |
| 15:31.47 | CIA-22 | Babble-2.2: |
| 15:31.47 | CIA-22 | - Added spanish "Old Serra'kis" boss from BFD |
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| 15:32.38 | Gnarfoz | mikma: even better, it might make some of the (arguably smarter) KTM users wonder why you show up if you don't have ktm ^^ |
| 15:32.53 | *** join/#wowace bindi (i=indigo@d54C68C7E.access.telenet.be) |
| 15:33.02 | mikma | Gnarfoz: i have told them that i use better addon, and if they whine i'll tell them to piss off :) |
| 15:33.08 | Gnarfoz | heh |
| 15:33.19 | mikma | haven't seen them whine, that's because i am in their list |
| 15:33.51 | Antiarc|Work | Eh. I told him about the problem and offered a compromise. |
| 15:33.56 | Gnarfoz | I like how naturfreund has posted some screenshot without any further details given, that shows omen above ktm in cpu usage xD |
| 15:33.57 | Antiarc|Work | We'll see what he does with it. |
| 15:34.37 | Antiarc|Work | I'm confused about the CPU usage too. I had a problem in yesterday's revision that caused memory inflation, but not excessive CPU usage. |
| 15:34.51 | Gandharva | mikma: Same here. The only problem was that I sometimes had to tank and they did't see my threat... But TTK solved this problem :) |
| 15:35.12 | mikma | my hat goes off to TTK too |
| 15:35.13 | Funkeh` | Antiarc|Work: i told you already |
| 15:35.15 | Funkeh` | in msg |
| 15:35.17 | Funkeh` | read it! |
| 15:35.19 | Gnarfoz | ttk doesn't exist anymore, does it |
| 15:35.33 | mikma | ? |
| 15:35.38 | Gnarfoz | it's integrated into threat? |
| 15:35.47 | mikma | http://svn.wowace.com/wowace/trunk/ThreatToKTM/ |
| 15:35.51 | Antiarc|Work | TTK's an interface to some of the threat-KTM compat functions now |
| 15:35.52 | mikma | dunno but it's still there |
| 15:35.58 | Antiarc|Work | Funkeh`: GraphLib is inactive |
| 15:36.07 | Funkeh` | its loaded |
| 15:36.07 | Antiarc|Work | Tablet...yeah, I can understand. I'm just using it for the tooltip. |
| 15:36.13 | Antiarc|Work | Loaded but inactive. |
| 15:36.17 | Antiarc|Work | No CPU usage, just some RAM. |
| 15:36.22 | Funkeh` | yeah right |
| 15:36.26 | Daemona | Funkeh` have a look at the supremus mod again, its still 1 behind on announcing forced aggro targets in p2 |
| 15:37.26 | Gandharva | Antiarc|Work: What profiler did Natufreud use here? http://www-en.curse-gaming.com/gallery/details/25706/omen-vs-ktm-cpu-usage/ |
| 15:37.35 | Funkeh` | necb's |
| 15:37.46 | Antiarc|Work | No idea, but I kinda suspect he turned on the graphing function ;) |
| 15:37.51 | Antiarc|Work | Since that chews up CPU like a madman. |
| 15:38.01 | Gnarfoz | omen has graphing now? oO |
| 15:38.06 | Daemona | sure |
| 15:38.09 | sag_ich_nicht | [17:37] <Gnarfoz> omen has graphing now? oO |
| 15:38.11 | Cryect | sure but hidden |
| 15:38.14 | Antiarc|Work | It's had it for a while, but it's disabled because I haven't finished it. |
| 15:38.16 | mikma | just like Wobin said... why does NECB have it's own profiler in |
| 15:38.22 | Gandharva | Antiarc|Work: I never got such high CPU usage on my tests |
| 15:38.29 | Antiarc|Work | I've never seen CPU usage that high either. |
| 15:38.30 | Gnarfoz | same reason kenoc got his own, of couse |
| 15:38.33 | Antiarc|Work | *shrug* |
| 15:38.38 | Cryect | those CPU usage seem higher than it shoudl still be giving |
| 15:38.50 | Gnarfoz | blizzard's profiler can't be trusted! we don't have a way to fake our results! |
| 15:38.52 | sag_ich_nicht | Wobin it's like Fubbar Performance, just pretty tooltip for the blizz :P |
| 15:38.55 | Cryect | I found with graphing enabled last time I was getting less CPU usage than KTM |
| 15:38.57 | sag_ich_nicht | erm |
| 15:39.00 | sag_ich_nicht | performancefu |
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| 15:39.12 | sag_ich_nicht | Gnarfoz it's just an ui for the blizz profiler |
| 15:39.34 | Gnarfoz | then we should flame naturfreund |
| 15:39.42 | sag_ich_nicht | not a seperate profiler |
| 15:39.42 | Gnarfoz | because, well, blizzard's profiling can't be trusted! |
| 15:39.43 | Gnarfoz | :D |
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| 15:39.48 | sag_ich_nicht | ... |
| 15:39.49 | Funkeh` | or you should grow up and not flame? |
| 15:39.52 | sag_ich_nicht | ~whalestab Gnarfoz |
| 15:39.53 | purl | ACTION stabs Gnarfoz with a rather narrow and pointy whale named Montgomery |
| 15:40.46 | sag_ich_nicht | or we just whalestab Gnarfoz. |
| 15:40.48 | Gnarfoz | Funkeh`: srsly, it's not like sane people started this shit about how blizz's profiling sucks because KTM gets bad results with it :p |
| 15:41.10 | Cryect | should swap in that code I gave you for the graphing Antiarc|Work :-p |
| 15:41.10 | sag_ich_nicht | god |
| 15:41.12 | sag_ich_nicht | stop it |
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| 15:41.21 | sag_ich_nicht | we will now use a very simple method for profiling |
| 15:41.24 | sag_ich_nicht | get a lvl 1 character |
| 15:41.26 | Antiarc|Work | Cryect: Heheh, yeah, eventually :D |
| 15:41.27 | sag_ich_nicht | no guild |
| 15:41.29 | Gnarfoz | blahblah |
| 15:41.33 | sag_ich_nicht | climb up on top of ironforge |
| 15:41.35 | Gnarfoz | post it in his thread. |
| 15:41.41 | sag_ich_nicht | where NO-ONE will EVER be around |
| 15:41.41 | Gnarfoz | yeah, get banned on the way |
| 15:41.42 | sag_ich_nicht | logout |
| 15:41.45 | sag_ich_nicht | nah |
| 15:41.49 | sag_ich_nicht | they don't ban you for that |
| 15:41.56 | sag_ich_nicht | just ask you nicely to leave, if at all |
| 15:41.57 | liquiem | naturfreund, omg.. not that we need another enemy castbar if you flame him |
| 15:41.59 | Gnarfoz | it's not even possible anymore, at least it shouldn't |
| 15:42.05 | sag_ich_nicht | it is possible |
| 15:42.10 | sag_ich_nicht | you just jump behind a damn tree |
| 15:42.14 | Gnarfoz | err |
| 15:42.22 | sag_ich_nicht | ironforge airport, then up on the mountains |
| 15:42.24 | Gnarfoz | yeah right, because that's all you needed to do, ever |
| 15:42.29 | sag_ich_nicht | it is |
| 15:42.31 | Gnarfoz | not |
| 15:42.35 | sag_ich_nicht | uh, yes |
| 15:42.48 | Gnarfoz | if your class got innate flight skills, it might |
| 15:42.53 | sag_ich_nicht | nope |
| 15:42.56 | sag_ich_nicht | you don't need any flight skills |
| 15:43.11 | Stephmw | Gnarfoz: you're excluding fart-power, right? |
| 15:43.14 | nevcairiel | lol |
| 15:43.18 | Gnarfoz | indeed I do |
| 15:43.21 | sag_ich_nicht | you go up to the north gate at loch modan, jump up behind a few trees, walk for a million miles and then you're at ironforge airport |
| 15:43.24 | nevcairiel | would that count for all dwarves? |
| 15:43.25 | sag_ich_nicht | no flying, no nothing |
| 15:43.48 | Gnarfoz | yeah, because that's the usual way *rolleyes* |
| 15:44.07 | sag_ich_nicht | then you just go west until you hit the cliffs, go a bit north, there, top of the mountains, jump down a bit(carefully, or you'll die from falldamage) and there, gates of ironforge |
| 15:44.21 | Antiarc|Work | Heh |
| 15:44.25 | sag_ich_nicht | i refered to the mountains on top though, because gates of ironforge is a different situation each time with all the duellers around |
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| 15:44.30 | Antiarc|Work | The "spoof check" is also severely prone to race conditions |
| 15:44.44 | sag_ich_nicht | so get up there with your lvl 1 character, disable all addons, turn off the profiling, and profile the usage of WoW directly |
| 15:44.45 | Gnarfoz | no one in their right mind would test at the gates of IF |
| 15:44.55 | Antiarc|Work | brb |
| 15:45.00 | Saroz | that ktm dude is seriously a nubtard |
| 15:45.00 | sag_ich_nicht | Gnarfoz thus top of the mountains, noone is EVER there. |
| 15:45.05 | Gnarfoz | ... |
| 15:45.07 | sag_ich_nicht | and there are no mobs or critters there either |
| 15:45.12 | Gnarfoz | no one even suggested testing at the damn gates |
| 15:45.26 | sag_ich_nicht | well i figured you might have missunderstood me :P |
| 15:45.32 | Kalman| | I wonder if Natur was using one of the Threat versions susceptible to the race condition. |
| 15:45.33 | Mikk | hmm.. won't that spoof check also mean that people that run Omen + KTM get reported as not running KTM? |
| 15:45.33 | Gnarfoz | I didn't even talk to you |
| 15:45.38 | nevcairiel | just go to one of the caves in moonglade |
| 15:45.41 | nevcairiel | no one is there either |
| 15:45.46 | Kalman| | The bossmod one, I mean. |
| 15:45.50 | sag_ich_nicht | nevcairiel true, true |
| 15:45.54 | Gnarfoz | Mikk: it will, Antiarc|Work already advised kenco of that ^^ |
| 15:45.58 | xt | How can I make Assessment show crits/hits/resists in a display |
| 15:45.59 | Mikk | hahaha |
| 15:46.16 | Mikk | well, offer him a way to detect ThreatLib with KTM sending on then |
| 15:46.17 | xt | For the raid, not myself |
| 15:46.21 | Mikk | that's reported separately |
| 15:48.02 | CIA-22 | 03saroz * r41905 10sRaidFrames/sRaidFrames.toc: sRaidFrames: Fix slashes |
| 15:48.04 | sag_ich_nicht | # The ChatLog button will be put back in next release. Much more improvements will be added, too. |
| 15:48.08 | sag_ich_nicht | HELL YEAH |
| 15:48.35 | Wobin | Mikk: Hey, Kenco, your "spoof fix" marks everyone that's running KTM and Threat side-by-side as an invalid KTM user - Threat yields KTM message processing to KTM if KTM is running on the user's the system. Your code there is going to mark legit KTM users as invalid KTM users. |
| 15:48.36 | Wobin | If you'd like, I'd be more than happy to agree to some kind of protocol to send KTM-compatible messages with a marker of some sort to indicate that they aren't from a native KTM client that you can then indicate in the KTM GUI, similar to how Omen indicates non-native Threat users in its GUI; preservation of compatibility is a priority for me so that users have the smoothest experience possible, but I do understand your not wanting users |
| 15:48.36 | Wobin | to think that non-native KTM data is actually KTM data. It seems that some kind of protocol adjustment would be the best solution. |
| 15:48.53 | Wobin | wordier than I expected =p |
| 15:49.01 | CIA-22 | 03rabbit * r41906 10oRA2/Leader/MainTank.lua: oRA2: Leader/MainTank: Bugfix. |
| 15:49.10 | Saroz | I repeat: That KTM is seriously a nubtard |
| 15:49.23 | Saroz | dude* |
| 15:50.14 | mikma | nubtarddude |
| 15:50.29 | Wobin | dudenub? |
| 15:50.35 | rubik | what do you all think kenco is going to say to that? |
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| 15:50.47 | Gnarfoz | could probably put that in the topic and it would still be accurate and also relevant, each day :P |
| 15:50.48 | Roartindon_ | xt: |
| 15:50.50 | rubik | is he in here, btw? i'd be surprised if he wasn't? |
| 15:50.56 | Wobin | he's not |
| 15:50.58 | mikma | rubik: he'll tell Antiarc|Work to fuck off and die in a fire |
| 15:50.58 | Wobin | afaik =P |
| 15:51.00 | Roartindon_ | xt: Just click on the player's name, then details, and it shows hits/crits/misses? |
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| 15:51.14 | Wobin | maybe it's kenlyric in disguise! |
| 15:51.17 | Gandharva | It seems NECB has some sort of CPU profiling: http://www-en.curse-gaming.com/gallery/images/25705/cpu-usage-omen-vs-ktm/ |
| 15:51.24 | mikma | Wobin: or, kergoth`work ! |
| 15:51.36 | sag_ich_nicht | Gandharva just a GUI for the blizz profiling |
| 15:51.40 | Wobin | Gandharva: yes. it's... an odd 'feature' for that sort of addon |
| 15:51.49 | Ominous | how much does is doing local _G = _G local pairs = _G.pairs better than just local pairs = pairs |
| 15:52.00 | Kalman| | NECB has bloaty features, Wobin? No way! :) |
| 15:52.08 | Kalman| | (Disclaimer: I use and like NECB.) |
| 15:52.14 | kenlyric | what did I doi? |
| 15:52.23 | rubik | people still use NECB? whyforso? |
| 15:52.26 | sag_ich_nicht | because |
| 15:52.29 | sag_ich_nicht | /necb bhill |
| 15:52.30 | vhaarr | Ominous: the difference is close to zero unless you use 'pairs' in some OnUpdate function |
| 15:52.31 | sag_ich_nicht | that's why. |
| 15:52.33 | Wobin | Ominous: not really worth it |
| 15:52.35 | sag_ich_nicht | also i like NECB |
| 15:52.38 | Kalman| | Because it does what I want it to do. |
| 15:52.39 | Funkeh` | i don't use necb, but thers nothing wrong wiht it |
| 15:52.44 | rubik | sag_ich_nicht: sorry, no idea what bhill option does |
| 15:52.47 | Funkeh` | it does its job and doesn't suck your pc like ktm |
| 15:52.50 | Ominous | vhaarr: its used alot |
| 15:52.56 | Kalman| | rubik: You really, really ought to find out. :) |
| 15:52.57 | vhaarr | Ominous: a lot ~= onupdate |
| 15:53.00 | Dotted | rubik it playes some bhill music |
| 15:53.00 | Ominous | true |
| 15:53.04 | rubik | haha |
| 15:53.06 | sag_ich_nicht | rubik: makes every damn NECB in the raid play some bhill music |
| 15:53.08 | Wobin | yakkity sax? |
| 15:53.10 | sag_ich_nicht | +user |
| 15:53.12 | sag_ich_nicht | yes |
| 15:53.15 | Josh_Borke | even then, there is no different between local pairs and local _G = _G; local pairs = _G.pairs |
| 15:53.15 | Wobin | that's classy =P |
| 15:53.20 | sag_ich_nicht | also |
| 15:53.22 | sag_ich_nicht | /necb monsterkill |
| 15:53.37 | xt | Roartindon_: yeah, but I want a display just like the 'Damage taken' one..with different colored bar |
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| 15:53.38 | sag_ich_nicht | (yeah it plays exactly that sound :P) |
| 15:53.52 | Wobin | wot? |
| 15:53.57 | xt | So I can easily see critrate/hitrate/missrate /resistrate of everyone in the raid in one view |
| 15:54.08 | CIA-22 | 03mikk * r41907 10AddonLoader/AddonLoader.lua: AddonLoader: Make it not complain about LoD addons that are disabled |
| 15:55.10 | Gandharva | I'd like to see a MaxHit Violation Module :D |
| 15:55.11 | sag_ich_nicht | is there a cvar to enable logging the chat to the file or do i have to call the function each time on logon to activate it? |
| 15:55.25 | Mikk | Gandharva: That's sooooo not violation |
| 15:56.00 | Roartindon_ | xt: So you want to show damage received, colored separately with the crit/hit/miss/resist of damage done? |
| 15:56.02 | Gandharva | Mikk: But I'd like it :P |
| 15:56.05 | Mikk | sag_ich_nicht: get Omnibus, create a snippet that calls the functions, flag the snippet as run-on-startup |
| 15:56.19 | sag_ich_nicht | Mikk: i use luaslinger for that |
| 15:56.21 | xt | Roartindon_: dont care about the values, just the relative rates |
| 15:56.27 | Mikk | sag_ich_nicht: works too ofc =) |
| 15:56.37 | sag_ich_nicht | Mikk: i asked if there is a cvar, not how to run it on startup :P |
| 15:56.46 | xt | Roartindon_: juggeling +crit and +hit is an important aspect of most dps classes |
| 15:57.14 | Gnarfoz | hm, wouldn't recount give you that exact data? |
| 15:57.34 | xt | the bar should be 100 % = misses + hits + resists + crits |
| 15:57.38 | xt | colored differntly |
| 15:57.42 | xt | one bar for each member in raid |
| 15:57.46 | Roartindon_ | xt: Heh, It can be done at the moment, but it's a little bit to setup.. and since I'm not at a computer that can test it, I'm not sure if I should even try to explain it when I'm not sure about what it is I'm explaining :P |
| 15:57.48 | Wobin | That'd be kinda cool |
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| 15:58.10 | xt | I could draw it to explain it better I guess, hehe |
| 15:58.14 | sag_ich_nicht | xt that's a damn nice idea |
| 15:58.15 | sag_ich_nicht | i want that |
| 15:58.19 | sag_ich_nicht | now. |
| 15:58.29 | xt | yeah, i love that different colored bars |
| 15:58.32 | xt | like those in Damage Taken |
| 15:58.35 | Leadhead | that is a sweet idea |
| 15:58.39 | sag_ich_nicht | and make it in a seperate addon and use either threat-1.0 or parserlib :P |
| 15:58.50 | xt | no no..it's assessment :D |
| 15:58.52 | Leadhead | but like wouldn't the hit portion of the bar obscure the rest because it's so big? |
| 15:58.59 | Wobin | no |
| 15:59.04 | Wobin | it's a percentage of the whole |
| 15:59.04 | sag_ich_nicht | xt nono, it's not, because then i would have to install assessment |
| 15:59.13 | xt | you should be doing that anyway sag_ich_nicht |
| 15:59.19 | sag_ich_nicht | xt no |
| 15:59.26 | sag_ich_nicht | because i already have about 380 addons. |
| 15:59.29 | Roartindon_ | xt: Rough outline is: Create a enumerate list display set, that has the attributes you want to follow (eg. Miss, Hit, Crit, Resist, etc.).. then use a Custom color type, then use a sumfield("damageDealt."..windowParameter(1)..".hitDetails.*."..key..".Count") or something like that |
| 15:59.35 | sag_ich_nicht | (not exaggerating) |
| 15:59.42 | sag_ich_nicht | also |
| 15:59.44 | sag_ich_nicht | i want the same thing |
| 15:59.52 | xt | Roartindon_: i'll try..haha..probably wont succeed |
| 15:59.53 | sag_ich_nicht | for aggro/no aggro |
| 15:59.54 | sag_ich_nicht | like |
| 15:59.57 | sag_ich_nicht | "times pulled aggro" |
| 15:59.58 | sag_ich_nicht | and |
| 16:00.04 | sag_ich_nicht | "times aggro keep" |
| 16:00.04 | Wobin | wouldn't it be personal only? Do you transmit the fact you miss to others? |
| 16:00.05 | Roartindon_ | xt: I'll have to try properly when I'm at home and can set it up |
| 16:00.07 | sag_ich_nicht | also "times lost aggro" |
| 16:00.17 | Roartindon_ | Wobin: misses are in the combat log. |
| 16:00.31 | xt | yeah, every dmg meter does it |
| 16:00.32 | rubik | shieldb: ping |
| 16:00.34 | sag_ich_nicht | i'd be on top of the "pulled" aggro list. |
| 16:00.36 | xt | not only ast neat as assessment |
| 16:00.49 | Mikk | Hmmmmmm.... slight problem here with Postal.. my fault. I made it LoD via AddonLoader. Problem now is all its modules aren't getting the MAIL_SHOW event since that's used to trigger the load. |
| 16:00.49 | Roartindon_ | Wobin: Assessment has multisegment bar display.. eg.. http://www.lim.com.au/wow/assessment.jpg |
| 16:01.01 | Mikk | I'd obviously need to test if the mail window is open somehow, and call the same code myself |
| 16:01.02 | Roartindon_ | The raw healing shows bright = healing done, dim = overhealing done for example |
| 16:01.10 | Roartindon_ | And it's all customizable.. some of it may not be as easy to setup tho :) |
| 16:01.16 | Mikk | Now, the question is, what's the correct test? |
| 16:01.26 | Mikk | Should I assume that postal will somehow magically work on some other frame than MailFrame? |
| 16:01.27 | deltron | ooh i like that Roartindon_ |
| 16:01.32 | deltron | i shall look into that tonight |
| 16:01.34 | Wobin | waht are the colours in damage taken? |
| 16:01.42 | Roartindon_ | Wobin: They've changed since tha tscreenshot |
| 16:01.43 | sag_ich_nicht | Antiarc|Work how about an aggro keept/aggro lost/aggro held statistic function for omen? :O |
| 16:01.52 | Wobin | what do they indicate? |
| 16:01.52 | Roartindon_ | But in that screenshot, blue = physical, then pale = arcane, red = fire, etc. |
| 16:01.55 | Wobin | ah =) |
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| 16:02.04 | Roartindon_ | Wobin: It's all user customizable anyway :) |
| 16:02.10 | Mikk | nah, nvm that question.. it's obviously hooked well n good into the standard mailframe |
| 16:02.42 | Wobin | night all |
| 16:03.02 | Mikk | nn wobs |
| 16:03.10 | sag_ich_nicht | also |
| 16:03.18 | xt | Roartindon_: i dont even know how to select " the attributes you want to follow (eg. Miss, Hit, Crit, Resist, etc.)" :( |
| 16:03.19 | sag_ich_nicht | something broke the changelog files on the server |
| 16:03.24 | sag_ich_nicht | or do they get reset occasionally? |
| 16:03.25 | sag_ich_nicht | >.> |
| 16:03.28 | sag_ich_nicht | (SVN that is) |
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| 16:03.40 | Roartindon_ | xt: List type, enumerate list I think... but as I said, I'll have a look when I get home and make sure I can set it up |
| 16:03.46 | Roartindon_ | then post on the forums a step by step example :) |
| 16:04.10 | xt | Enumerate Parameter List |
| 16:04.15 | Roartindon_ | Yeah, that's it |
| 16:04.30 | xt | Bar Value Tag? |
| 16:04.34 | Roartindon_ | Then the parameter list data is Hit,Critical Hit,Tick,Resist,Miss |
| 16:04.35 | xt | lol..go step by step |
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| 16:04.54 | Antiarc|Work | y'know what's funny? |
| 16:05.10 | Roartindon_ | Bar Value Tag is that thing I mentioned earlier... something like what I pasted before.. tha'ts the hard bit :) |
| 16:05.13 | Antiarc|Work | I could get around Kenco's spoof detection by just making sure I send the KTM version spoof before any Threat messages. :/ |
| 16:05.17 | Roartindon_ | I better not try and guess, I'll write it up after I get home |
| 16:05.21 | sag_ich_nicht | Antiarc|Work lol |
| 16:05.24 | mikma | Antiarc|Work: please do so |
| 16:05.30 | sag_ich_nicht | Antiarc|Work you read my question? :O |
| 16:05.38 | Antiarc|Work | sag_ich_nicht: Scrolling up now |
| 16:05.38 | mikma | Antiarc|Work: just to show you can do it better than him |
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| 16:05.41 | sag_ich_nicht | (or request, for that matter) |
| 16:05.51 | Antiarc|Work | mikma: I'm going to opt for the cooperation route first. |
| 16:05.52 | CIA-22 | 03ammo * r41908 10oRA2/Participant/ (8 files): oRA2: merged non-interactive participant modules into Participant.lua shaving 70kib of the initial load. |
| 16:05.56 | Antiarc|Work | If he refuses then I'll go that route. |
| 16:06.02 | mikma | Antiarc|Work: it will propably take him a month again to recheck and "prevent" it |
| 16:06.03 | Morgh | haha. A friend of mine just installed FuBar, and everything works fine. Except ClockFu, which just shows... *drumroll* ClockFu. Any ideas? =P |
| 16:06.14 | mikma | Antiarc|Work: *LOL* good luck on that way, really :) |
| 16:06.16 | Antiarc|Work | mikma: He can't prevent it. |
| 16:06.30 | Mikk | Of course he can. He can nuke people out of the list when he sees threat messages from them |
| 16:06.31 | sag_ich_nicht | Antiarc|Work he can just implement a re-check every so-often |
| 16:06.34 | Tornhoof | hey antiarc, how exact is the warlock module?, ktm is reporting around 300 tps and omen around 1800 |
| 16:06.45 | Antiarc|Work | Mikk: That assumes that Threat and KTM are mutually exclusive. |
| 16:06.56 | Mikk | I'm not saying it's a good idea |
| 16:06.57 | mikma | Antiarc|Work: i would fix is temporarily now, and if he cooperates then do it the other way |
| 16:06.59 | Antiarc|Work | Tornhoof: The warlock module is right. The TPS calculations are not. :P |
| 16:06.59 | Morgh | @ ckknight |
| 16:07.13 | mikma | Antiarc|Work: it might take him a LONG time to work with you |
| 16:07.18 | mikma | i think he hates you |
| 16:07.21 | Mikk | mikma: Nah, that's not showing good faith |
| 16:07.26 | mikma | and hopes that your cock drops off |
| 16:07.26 | Mikk | 1 show of good faith is good |
| 16:07.32 | Antiarc|Work | *shrug* I'm not in a rush. In the mean time, Omen works perfectly with KTM. |
| 16:07.32 | sag_ich_nicht | Antiarc|Work i'll just quote it for you: |
| 16:07.33 | sag_ich_nicht | [18:01] <sag_ich_nicht> Antiarc|Work how about an aggro keept/aggro lost/aggro held statistic function for omen? :O |
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| 16:07.47 | Antiarc|Work | sag_ich_nicht: Can you elaborate? |
| 16:07.54 | Mikk | sag_ich_nicht: banzai? |
| 16:08.05 | sag_ich_nicht | Mikk: wait, damn. |
| 16:08.05 | xt | Roartindon_: yeah, you're right..No chance in hell i'll get this right by myself |
| 16:08.09 | sag_ich_nicht | Antiarc|Work nvm |
| 16:08.54 | sag_ich_nicht | Antiarc|Work i meant a counter for how many times someone pulled aggro/how long held etc., but i didn't know banzai had a counter for it so nvm |
| 16:08.55 | sag_ich_nicht | :O |
| 16:08.55 | Mikk | having said that, it's somewhat messy to have shitloads of windows from different addons up on the screen |
| 16:09.11 | sag_ich_nicht | Mikk indeed |
| 16:09.26 | Morgh | Scroll thingy? oo |
| 16:09.26 | sag_ich_nicht | what scroll thingy? :O |
| 16:09.31 | Mikk | Threat, damage, aggro, all rolled into one |
| 16:09.46 | Mikk | Erm.. cycle through different statistics in the same window |
| 16:09.52 | sag_ich_nicht | heh |
| 16:09.58 | sag_ich_nicht | damage meters did that, years ago |
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| 16:10.08 | sag_ich_nicht | although the change was on an interval |
| 16:10.10 | sag_ich_nicht | which was just as nice |
| 16:10.20 | sag_ich_nicht | actually i want that feature in sw stats, with colors, damnit |
| 16:10.29 | Mikk | I know, I know, but DM didn't show threat and aggro now did it :P |
| 16:10.32 | Mikk | ^ my point |
| 16:10.35 | sag_ich_nicht | Mikk true |
| 16:10.38 | Antiarc|Work | Vio's scroll menu is sexy as hell |
| 16:10.40 | Stan3 | hm overheal bars is broken in pitbull :( |
| 16:10.46 | Antiarc|Work | I'd love to have a dropdown though |
| 16:10.51 | Antiarc|Work | So I don't have to iterate through the options |
| 16:10.57 | Mikk | Yeah me too |
| 16:10.59 | Mikk | [Ammo]: can i? can i? =) |
| 16:11.23 | Morgh | ckknight: They tried to disable all addons except FuBar and ClockFu, but no luck. Also tried reinstaling the whole shebang. No luck. Any ideas? |
| 16:11.49 | Mikk | Morgh: smells like clockfu is on standby? |
| 16:12.01 | [Ammo] | can what? |
| 16:12.02 | sag_ich_nicht | lol standby |
| 16:12.08 | Kaelten | g'mornin |
| 16:12.17 | Funkeh` | hey Kaelten |
| 16:12.57 | Morgh | Heya Kaelten |
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| 16:15.12 | Kaelten | ATTN: More Socialistic Pre-Commit Scripts have been added to the svn. |
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| 16:15.31 | xt | Roartindon_: is it possible to get dps-counter like in violation too? :D |
| 16:15.57 | mikma | Roartindon_: kergoth`work wanted to cry about some features of Assessment :D |
| 16:16.00 | xt | "effective combat time" instead of combat time |
| 16:16.56 | Jagobah | I am in addon hell! |
| 16:16.57 | Roartindon_ | xt: Violation uses a sliding window to calculate dps right? |
| 16:16.58 | Morgh | Mikk: Nope, that's not it. Any other ideas? Seems there are more than him having this problem :O |
| 16:17.03 | xt | Roartindon_: correct |
| 16:17.05 | *** topic/#wowace by Kaelten -> http://www.wowace.com | http://files.wowace.com/ | http://ace.pastey.net | http://www.lua.org | http://wowace.com/wiki/Optimization | WAU 1.7 has been disabled, please upgrade to 1.9 http://sf.net/projects/wowaceupdater | WAU2 beta started http://www.wowace.com/wau2/ | Two new pre commit scripts have been added. |
| 16:17.32 | liquiem | where do i found ressources on creating windows/frames? |
| 16:17.36 | Jagobah | I've permanently lost the ability to show "x has come online" in my chat windows X_X |
| 16:17.42 | xt | the DPS meter in assessment right now isnt very useful...i'd rather see ACTUAL dps |
| 16:17.44 | sag_ich_nicht | lol @ remove standalone libraries |
| 16:18.02 | sag_ich_nicht | i'll just stick with 1.9 for now |
| 16:18.16 | xt | if people die, their DPS shouldnt drop..since their S in DPS stopped :D |
| 16:18.33 | Mikk | liquiem: http://www.wowwiki.com/API_CreateFrame |
| 16:18.39 | Mikk | liquiem: http://www.wowwiki.com/Widget_API |
| 16:18.48 | Orthwein | heh, wua2 just crashes on startup for me on osx |
| 16:18.55 | sag_ich_nicht | [18:18] <xt> if people die, their DPS shouldnt drop..since their S in DPS stopped :D <--true |
| 16:18.57 | Roartindon_ | xt: Yeah, I've been thinking about it, but it hasn't been top of the priority list :) |
| 16:19.19 | Roartindon_ | mikma: What's kergoth been asking about? :) |
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| 16:20.43 | mikma | Roartindon_: like i remember :D bug him until he answers hehe |
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| 16:20.48 | mikma | kergoth`work: ping |
| 16:21.26 | Antiarc|Work | http://img165.imageshack.us/img165/7926/wowscrnshot062607230805pu3.jpg <-- hooray for fake T5 shoulders! :D |
| 16:21.26 | PProvost | Morning folks. How goes it today? |
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| 16:21.42 | CIA-22 | 03ammo * r41909 10oRA2/LoadOnDemand.lua: oRA2: clean up unused locales etc after load. |
| 16:22.39 | mikma | kergoth: ping |
| 16:23.40 | Ominous | if you use self.blizzardTooltip does fubar still need tablet? |
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| 16:23.54 | Stan3 | who is in charge of pitbull? |
| 16:23.59 | sag_ich_nicht | Stan3 ckknight |
| 16:24.01 | sbu | ckknight is |
| 16:24.41 | Stan3 | hmm |
| 16:24.46 | vhaarr | Ominous: no |
| 16:24.51 | Stan3 | the overheal bar doesn't show up |
| 16:24.55 | Stan3 | @ ckknight |
| 16:25.03 | Stan3 | I checked and unchecked the option |
| 16:25.05 | sag_ich_nicht | has already been reported Stan3 |
| 16:25.39 | Stan3 | ok cool |
| 16:26.04 | mikma | Stan3: scream "ckknight fix it!" .. that might work |
| 16:26.56 | Fisker- | and then spam it |
| 16:27.36 | mikma | that works |
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| 16:27.58 | Stan3 | hehe |
| 16:28.20 | Stan3 | ckknight: be nice and fix it. *pets* |
| 16:28.33 | sbu | uhm no |
| 16:28.39 | sbu | bad idea |
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| 16:29.29 | Stan3 | sbu: does he bite? |
| 16:31.36 | liquiem | Mikk, as i understand the text correctly, i cant create a frame on the fly ingame as the frame isnt defined in xml? |
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| 16:33.45 | Ominous | what do the new pre commit scripts do? |
| 16:34.10 | Ominous | kaelten: ^^ |
| 16:34.22 | Mikk | liquiem: yes you can |
| 16:34.29 | Mikk | you do not need to have a single .xml file in your entire addon |
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| 16:34.36 | Mikk | in fact, most ace addons are written this way now |
| 16:34.40 | Mikk | we all hate xml :P |
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| 16:35.25 | sag_ich_nicht | oh and xt |
| 16:35.34 | liquiem | embed.xml.. right :p |
| 16:35.35 | sag_ich_nicht | it's t, not s. :P |
| 16:36.13 | ben | What's wrong with xml? |
| 16:36.34 | Mikk | blizzard's xml syntax for describing frames is bulky as hell |
| 16:36.37 | Mikk | and not at all flexible |
| 16:37.04 | Mikk | it becomes more flexible and easier to read when written as straight Lua code |
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| 16:37.37 | Antiarc|Work | Agreed |
| 16:37.40 | Mikk | (unless ofcourse you're doing _very_ flexible things with it, then it can get as unreadable as code in general... but the point is you couldn't even do that in xml to begin with) |
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| 16:38.39 | sbu | mhh |
| 16:38.49 | sbu | is overheal broken in parser-3.0? |
| 16:38.53 | Daemona | Antiarc|Work ? threat 41855 broken? i dont see my own threat :( |
| 16:39.17 | Daemona | could it be due to the sw_fixlog string changes to quite some libs/addons |
| 16:39.21 | shieldb | rubik, pong |
| 16:39.25 | Antiarc|Work | Daemona: You're the third person to report that to me today. I'm wondering if it's a parser change. |
| 16:39.28 | Antiarc|Work | Yeah, something like that. |
| 16:39.40 | Antiarc|Work | (It worked fine for me last night but I hadn't updated Parser) |
| 16:39.40 | Cryect | Parser-3.0 was changed |
| 16:39.42 | Daemona | yeah parserlib hat that in the changelog today |
| 16:39.44 | Cryect | and reported broken earlier |
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| 16:40.02 | Cryect | hadn't had a chance to test the new parser-3.0 |
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| 16:40.42 | abyssichate | I can't see my threat either |
| 16:40.59 | sag_ich_nicht | i'll test if i see my threat in a moment |
| 16:41.02 | sag_ich_nicht | actually |
| 16:41.04 | sag_ich_nicht | i'll do right now |
| 16:41.46 | sag_ich_nicht | ahahahahahaha |
| 16:41.51 | sag_ich_nicht | Witching Stave for 1g70s |
| 16:42.33 | Cryect | It looks like it should be fine and damn authienticating server seems to down to see if it can be fixed easily |
| 16:42.59 | Funkeh` | i think we shoukd blame cryect for the fixlogstring opt dep changes |
| 16:43.14 | Cryect | Haha I think its ckknight's fix last night :-p |
| 16:43.30 | Cryect | but yeah definately opt dep! |
| 16:43.43 | Cryect | f'ing authenticating servers |
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| 16:44.41 | sag_ich_nicht | missing threat as well |
| 16:44.53 | Funkeh` | tested it |
| 16:44.54 | Funkeh` | works fine |
| 16:44.57 | Funkeh` | i don't use swstats |
| 16:45.00 | Funkeh` | so... |
| 16:45.00 | sag_ich_nicht | i do. |
| 16:45.04 | Cryect | what locale? |
| 16:45.10 | sag_ich_nicht | enGB |
| 16:45.12 | Funkeh` | turn off sw_fixlogstrings in addons menu |
| 16:45.14 | sag_ich_nicht | heading to gnomer to test more |
| 16:45.20 | Funkeh` | see if it fixes it |
| 16:45.30 | sag_ich_nicht | wait a sec. |
| 16:45.59 | sag_ich_nicht | first have to get some mobs that don't die first hit |
| 16:46.05 | sag_ich_nicht | and don't have me use my hearthstone :P |
| 16:46.15 | abyssichate | I don't use sw either |
| 16:46.51 | Funkeh` | abyssichate: are you sure sw_fixlogstrings isn't loading? |
| 16:47.26 | sag_ich_nicht | nope |
| 16:47.29 | sag_ich_nicht | not getting any threat |
| 16:47.33 | Cryect | if SW_Stats doesn't load SW_FixLogStrings does nothing anyways |
| 16:47.33 | sag_ich_nicht | will try without logstrings now |
| 16:47.34 | Funkeh` | turned it off? |
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| 16:47.41 | Funkeh` | ok |
| 16:47.46 | Kaelten | Ominous: http://www.wowace.com/wiki/SVN_Rules#X-Category_TOC_Field |
| 16:47.51 | Kaelten | that block and the next one. |
| 16:48.33 | abyssichate | Funkeh`: 100% sure |
| 16:48.38 | abyssichate | I don't even have it installed anymore |
| 16:48.51 | Ominous | kaelten: so normal people cant do bat files no? |
| 16:48.56 | Ominous | s/no/now/ |
| 16:49.02 | Kaelten | correct |
| 16:49.10 | Ominous | bah that sub didnt work properly =D |
| 16:49.13 | Funkeh` | i have a feeling it might be a parser 1.1 parser 3.0 compatability thing |
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| 16:49.33 | Cryect | threat doesn't use parser 1.1 |
| 16:49.34 | ben | what |
| 16:49.37 | ben | s/./&&/g |
| 16:50.05 | Antiarc|Work | Threat has something of a parser-1.1 compat layer, but it's incomplete. |
| 16:50.30 | Antiarc|Work | I should probably just remove it, TBH |
| 16:50.47 | sag_ich_nicht | getting no threat either |
| 16:50.54 | sag_ich_nicht | fixlog disabled |
| 16:51.00 | Funkeh` | sag_ich_nicht: do you have both parser 1.1 and 3.0 enabled? |
| 16:51.23 | sag_ich_nicht | wait |
| 16:51.27 | sag_ich_nicht | wait |
| 16:51.29 | sag_ich_nicht | nvm |
| 16:51.32 | sag_ich_nicht | have to reloadui again |
| 16:51.33 | Antiarc|Work | ? |
| 16:51.36 | sag_ich_nicht | forgot to disable something |
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| 16:51.53 | CIA-22 | 03ominous * r41910 10ClassTimer/ (ClassTimer.lua Locales/enUS.lua): ClassTimer: Added fubar plugin support |
| 16:52.59 | Daemona | disabling fixlog doesnt fix threat/omen |
| 16:53.08 | Ominous | kaelten: any eta until wau2 has changelog support as thats all thats stopping me ditching wau1.9 |
| 16:53.08 | CIA-22 | 03rabbit * r41911 10oRA2/Optional/MainTank.lua: oRA2: Optional/MainTank: Bugfix. |
| 16:53.15 | Funkeh` | found it |
| 16:53.19 | Daemona | got parser3 and 1.1 though |
| 16:53.21 | Funkeh` | if i have p1.1 and 3.0 enabled |
| 16:53.24 | Funkeh` | i get no threat |
| 16:53.31 | Funkeh` | if i have only 3.0 it works fine |
| 16:53.37 | Cryect | thats uh strange |
| 16:53.43 | Funkeh` | gonna revert 3.0 untill ckknight is back |
| 16:53.47 | sbu | Daemona: try to go 1 version back with parser-3.0 |
| 16:53.50 | sbu | does it work then? |
| 16:53.52 | sag_ich_nicht | fixlog disabled |
| 16:53.59 | sag_ich_nicht | checking if something caused it to load anyway |
| 16:53.59 | Kaelten | Ominous: once the server side changes are complete |
| 16:54.19 | Antiarc|Work | Good catch, Funkeh` |
| 16:54.38 | sag_ich_nicht | nope |
| 16:54.38 | Cryect | better check the total changes then |
| 16:54.54 | sag_ich_nicht | fixlogstrings disabled, still getting no threat |
| 16:55.25 | durcyn | why would you have parser-1.1 and 3.0 loaded at the same time? 3.0 API should be fully compatible with 1.1 clients. |
| 16:55.42 | Cryect | its not quite |
| 16:55.49 | Daemona | whats the latest version of parser3 without sw fix? |
| 16:55.57 | Daemona | 41780 ? |
| 16:56.05 | Cryect | whatever the revision before last night |
| 16:56.16 | CIA-22 | 03funkydude * r41912 10Parser-3.0/Parser-3.0/Parser-3.0.lua: Parser-3.0: reverted change temporarily to fix threat |
| 16:56.59 | durcyn | http://www.wowace.com/trac/log/trunk/Parser-3.0 btw |
| 16:57.23 | sag_ich_nicht | this happens even with fixlogstrings disabled btw. |
| 16:57.35 | Funkeh` | sag_ich_nicht: we know... |
| 16:57.36 | Cryect | Yeah it happens whenever Parser-1.1 & Parser-3.0 are enabled |
| 16:57.38 | sag_ich_nicht | okay |
| 16:57.44 | sag_ich_nicht | wasn't sure and didn't bother to scroll up :P |
| 16:57.49 | sbu | mhh, weapon skill rating is useless since BC - right? |
| 16:58.00 | Cryect | Which is strange the Parser-1.1 backwards compatiblity code wasn't touched |
| 16:58.02 | Daemona | y/n |
| 16:58.13 | durcyn | sbu: it's crit chance now, so only mostly useless |
| 16:58.21 | abyssichate | So, as of now, if I disable Parser-1.1, threat should work properly? |
| 16:58.28 | Funkeh` | yes |
| 16:58.32 | abyssichate | ok let me check |
| 16:58.34 | Cryect | if you update to the latest svn version it will work properly as well |
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| 16:59.30 | Daemona | i just reverted to yesterdays version, will see on gurtogg if its working again |
| 16:59.52 | Daemona | sw, 1.1 and 3.0 enabled |
| 17:00.04 | Funkeh` | Daemona: i revetered it anyway |
| 17:00.09 | Funkeh` | reverted* |
| 17:00.23 | Funkeh` | update now it should be fixed |
| 17:00.40 | Daemona | if i revert or update doesnt matter, it should be fixed both ways ;) |
| 17:00.52 | Cryect | right |
| 17:01.06 | sag_ich_nicht | how long does it take between an svn commit and files.wowace.com updating btw.? :O |
| 17:01.14 | Daemona | 15min? i think |
| 17:01.17 | Cryect | every 20 minutes it updates |
| 17:01.23 | Cryect | but it shoul dbe updating right now |
| 17:01.40 | Cryect | updates at the hour and :20 and :40 |
| 17:01.46 | abyssichate | ParserLib is Parser-1.1, aye? |
| 17:02.10 | Cryect | files.wowace.com has the reverted version |
| 17:02.19 | Cryect | yes |
| 17:02.30 | Antiarc|Work | It's up to date now? |
| 17:02.31 | abyssichate | I disabled it and I get LOADS of lua errors :s |
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| 17:02.56 | Cryect | yes its up to date now |
| 17:02.59 | Josh_Borke | don't disable it? |
| 17:03.05 | abyssichate | Antagonist and Cowtip whining about something |
| 17:03.07 | Nebucadnezar | G'mornin! |
| 17:03.15 | abyssichate | Yeah well, I disabled it to check if threat-1.0 would work then |
| 17:03.23 | Cryect | All my fault for suggesting ckknight fixes parser-3.0 right? |
| 17:03.27 | Cryect | :-p |
| 17:03.33 | Gagorian | Threat requires Parser-3,0 now? |
| 17:03.37 | Gagorian | *. |
| 17:04.14 | sbu | okay thank you Funkeh` |
| 17:04.27 | Funkeh` | sbu: works? |
| 17:04.45 | Nebucadnezar | Shirik: Are you around this morning? |
| 17:04.45 | sbu | ckk's parser-3.0 update also broke overhealing - and its workign again with latest svn |
| 17:04.49 | sbu | dont know about threat |
| 17:05.00 | Fisker- | done and done |
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| 17:05.28 | CAL|SMeltn | hello... |
| 17:05.41 | CAL|SMeltn | why so many updates to wowace updater lately? |
| 17:06.01 | Cryect | because they like you everytime you start it seeing it needs to be updated? |
| 17:07.51 | Saroz | gg ora2 durability check is broken :p |
| 17:07.56 | Gnarfoz | ~seen trh |
| 17:08.07 | purl | trh <n=hmmm@e179207058.adsl.alicedsl.de> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 1d 1h 18m 57s ago, saying: 'Gnarfoz: instead of checking mouseover and adding the line then'. |
| 17:08.14 | Funkeh` | saroz bump [Ammo] / vhaarr |
| 17:09.18 | CAL|SMeltn | what was wrong with 1.7 that made it be disabled now? |
| 17:09.28 | Gnarfoz | resource grubbyness :) |
| 17:09.28 | Cryect | wasn't 1.7 disabled ages ago |
| 17:09.29 | abyssichate | Do I just need to edit Antagonist.toc to make it use Parser-3.0 instead of ParserLib? |
| 17:09.36 | Thorgard | Ho ho, IRCing from work. Bet this'll get me fired. :/ |
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| 17:11.16 | kaiden | Is there a location yet for Layouts people have made for PitBull that anyone knows of? :) |
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| 17:12.24 | CAL|SMeltn | good question kaiden |
| 17:12.29 | CAL|SMeltn | would like to see some myself |
| 17:12.30 | Thorgard | kaiden, good question. I'd like a list of layouts too. ;P |
| 17:12.35 | CAL|SMeltn | hehe |
| 17:12.59 | CAL|SMeltn | so on WAU2 |
| 17:13.03 | CAL|SMeltn | what does green and yellow mean? |
| 17:13.27 | Thorgard | 'Go' and 'go faster'. |
| 17:13.56 | Chompers | more DogTag tags need to be made |
| 17:14.02 | Chompers | so i can steal them :) |
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| 17:20.11 | pastamancer | kaiden: there's a "post your cool pitbull layouts here" thread on the forums |
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| 17:23.48 | molt | anyone know a way to ad a new set to sRaidFrames? i cant seem to find that. |
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| 17:24.06 | liquiem | quick info how to make a frame "click-through"? |
| 17:24.21 | trh | enablemouse(false) ? |
| 17:25.00 | liquiem | maybe, ill test :p |
| 17:25.17 | Saroz | molt, not -- will add tonight :) |
| 17:25.21 | Saroz | not atm :p |
| 17:26.40 | sbu | meeh |
| 17:26.56 | sbu | "DogTag: Sex " <-- i have to click :/ |
| 17:28.06 | Josh_Borke | liquiem: EnableMouse(false) |
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| 17:30.00 | trh | http://bash.org/?777323 <- lol =) |
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| 17:30.34 | Josh_Borke | lol |
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| 17:30.59 | nevcairiel | [Ammo]: oRAOMainTank.core.maintanktable[i] doesnt work anymore, whats the new syntax? |
| 17:31.01 | nevcairiel | same for vhaarr |
| 17:31.02 | nevcairiel | :P |
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| 17:32.17 | pb_ee1 | ckknight: Is it normal that when I enable CPU Profiling, FuBar_PerfanceFu creates a _huge_ UI lag? |
| 17:32.37 | pb_ee1 | By _huge_ i mean it lags something like 0.1-0.2 seconds every second |
| 17:32.45 | ckknight | your computer sucks |
| 17:32.51 | pb_ee1 | It seems yes |
| 17:32.52 | CIA-22 | 03saroz * r41913 10sRaidFrames/sRaidFrames.lua: sRaidFrames: Tweak |
| 17:33.08 | Cryect | the issue is when you call CPUUSage |
| 17:33.12 | pb_ee1 | So that means that I cannot do a CPU profiling if my computer isn't good enough? :p |
| 17:33.14 | molt | pb_ee1: well it depends on what addons you got, some nuke performance totaly when enabling that. |
| 17:33.16 | Cryect | wow freezes for a split second |
| 17:33.22 | Cryect | you can do CPU Profling |
| 17:33.27 | Cryect | just disable PerfFu |
| 17:33.40 | Mech0z | Guess Omen is broken atm? Cant see myself on it |
| 17:33.43 | sedatedChipmunk | cpu profiling is about relative numbers anyway |
| 17:33.46 | Mech0z | and yes Iam doing "some" damage :) |
| 17:33.50 | Antiarc|Work | Mech0z: Update, Parser-3.0 problem, fixed now. |
| 17:33.51 | Cryect | Its Parser-3.0 thats broken |
| 17:33.52 | pb_ee1 | Cryect: Well having PerfomanceFu WITHOUT CPU Profiling goes quite well |
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| 17:34.02 | Mech0z | Antiarc|Work is it online? |
| 17:34.07 | Antiarc|Work | Yup |
| 17:34.08 | hyperChipmunk | the results are valid, since they're all scaled equally |
| 17:34.09 | Cryect | pb_ee1: as I said its when PerfFu calls UpdateCPUUsage |
| 17:34.24 | Cryect | pb_ee1: it does that once a second so it can determine CPU % numbers |
| 17:34.29 | Twelve- | anyone able to tell me why WAU 1.9 wont work.. just get this error on startup: Error During Download: System.Net.WebException: Unable to connect to the remote server ---> System.Net.Sockets.SocketException: The attempted operation is not supported for the type of object referenced |
| 17:35.09 | [Ammo] | nevcairiel: oRA.maintanktable[i] |
| 17:35.09 | pb_ee1 | Cryect: Ha I see. This is why I've got some lag |
| 17:35.15 | [Ammo] | nevcairiel: it always was that |
| 17:35.18 | pb_ee1 | I've got a fix for this though |
| 17:35.23 | Cryect | pb_ee1: yeah it drove me crazy for a while |
| 17:35.26 | pb_ee1 | Listen to me. |
| 17:35.34 | pb_ee1 | I'm gonna buy a new computer. |
| 17:35.37 | pb_ee1 | :( |
| 17:35.41 | Cryect | Shrug that doesn't really fix the issue |
| 17:35.42 | hyperChipmunk | good call |
| 17:35.53 | pb_ee1 | Well it's not an issue anyway ;p |
| 17:35.55 | Cryect | you still get a frame drop whenever its called |
| 17:36.08 | Cryect | Its the changing framerate which bothers me |
| 17:36.08 | pb_ee1 | Yep, but here it's going down from 24 to 11 :p |
| 17:36.14 | Cryect | its smooth then not smooth then smooth again |
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| 17:36.24 | pb_ee1 | I already have a crappy computer, so enabling this is suicide for me |
| 17:36.27 | Cryect | I mean if it stayed at the low FPS I barely would notice it :-p |
| 17:36.28 | nevcairiel | [Ammo]: what i posted worked too tho :D |
| 17:36.38 | nevcairiel | (not my addon) |
| 17:36.41 | nevcairiel | just fixing bugs :) |
| 17:37.04 | Nebucadnezar-DM | Hey nevcairiel |
| 17:37.04 | Cryect | I go from 80-90 FPS to like 20FPS (based off the avg time for that frame) for that one update |
| 17:37.25 | pb_ee1 | oO |
| 17:37.50 | [Ammo] | nevcairiel: but was illegal use! |
| 17:37.52 | Cryect | so its kinda drastic and very noticable when sudenly a frame is up for 0.05 seconds instead of a fraction of that |
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| 17:38.00 | abyssichate | Why does Violation sometimes show such discrepancy? Within peers using the same revision (the latest) one guy is - for example - at the 8th place on mine and at 5th on his |
| 17:38.19 | [Ammo] | abyssichate: hunter or lock with active pet? |
| 17:38.35 | abyssichate | we are both lock with imp on phase shifts |
| 17:38.48 | Cryect | Parser-3.0 with SW_FixLogs was causing issues with not reading other people's damage correctly but Violation synccs so thats strange |
| 17:38.51 | abyssichate | I could name other differences about classes without pets |
| 17:38.53 | Gagorian | [2007/06/27 20:41:49-1671-x1]: <string>:"oRAMainTankUnitButton1:OnLoad":1: attempt to index global 'oRAOMainTank' (a nil value) |
| 17:39.30 | nevcairiel | Gagorian: update |
| 17:39.45 | [Ammo] | Gagorian: update |
| 17:39.56 | Gagorian | alright, I see it's been recently fixed! *slaps himself* |
| 17:40.25 | Cryect | abyssichate: curious are you showing like the same numbers for him on both yours and is it just his numbers being lower? |
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| 17:40.32 | CIA-22 | 03celellach * r41914 10AtlasLoot/ (Instances/burningcrusade.en.lua Sets/sets.lua): |
| 17:40.32 | CIA-22 | AtlasLoot: |
| 17:40.32 | CIA-22 | - Loot update |
| 17:40.36 | dRiN | could it be eqcompare and tinytip started being friends? |
| 17:40.39 | Cryect | Since i know oyu said you don't use SWS |
| 17:40.42 | dRiN | stopped* |
| 17:41.06 | [Ammo] | the numbers would not be the same on both if you both reset at a different time |
| 17:41.17 | dRiN | When I hover over players with my mouse, I get an item compared to a toon. |
| 17:42.37 | [Ammo] | I am getting consistent data in my raids |
| 17:43.47 | Peoii | You know, that might be a good idea... have violation track the timestamp when you last reset your meters. And on-report, post that in the header lines... so people can easily tell "Oh hey, my numbers are different because I reset after him" |
| 17:44.23 | CIA-22 | 03nevcairiel * r41915 10HealOrganizer/HealOrganizer.lua: HealOrganizer: fix for oRA updates |
| 17:44.54 | nadas | [Ammo]: http://ace.pastey.net/69951 :( |
| 17:45.07 | nadas | error when checking raid durability |
| 17:45.43 | [Ammo] | hmm |
| 17:46.05 | nevcairiel | same here |
| 17:46.07 | nevcairiel | just tried :P |
| 17:46.58 | [Ammo] | fixing |
| 17:47.04 | abyssichate | [Ammo]: so you need a "remote" reset to make it consistent? |
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| 17:48.16 | [Ammo] | abyssichate: it is consistent, but if you reset at a different time than him your data will be different ofcourse |
| 17:48.50 | stavmar|laptop | is questannouncer still working for those of you that use it? |
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| 17:50.18 | CIA-22 | 03ammo * r41916 10oRA2/Leader/Durability.lua: oRA2: leader/durability bugfixes |
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| 17:52.27 | [Ammo] | fixing resist and the others too |
| 17:53.09 | Nebucadnezar | Shirik: You around yet? |
| 17:56.02 | nadas | ckknight: you around? |
| 17:57.09 | mikma | ttp://www-en.curse-gaming.com/downloads/details/4204/#comment_272871 |
| 17:57.42 | mikma | +h omg omg |
| 17:58.24 | deltron | link didn't really work.. |
| 17:58.40 | deltron | which is it? |
| 17:58.44 | deltron | anti's post? |
| 17:59.11 | PProvost | Here's the link: http://www-en.curse-gaming.com/downloads/details/4204/#comment_272871 |
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| 18:00.42 | ilifin | ~whaleslap ckknight |
| 18:00.47 | purl | ACTION beats ckknight upside and over the head with a freakishly huge killer whale named Hugh |
| 18:00.55 | Antiarc|Work | Just take a point called Z in the complex plane |
| 18:00.57 | Antiarc|Work | Let Z1 be Z squared plus C |
| 18:01.00 | Antiarc|Work | And Z2 is Z1 squared plus C |
| 18:01.05 | Antiarc|Work | And Z3 is Z2 squared plus C |
| 18:01.06 | Antiarc|Work | (and so on) |
| 18:01.13 | mikma | there's new comment which i found funny |
| 18:01.20 | Antiarc|Work | If the series of Z’s should always stay close to Z and never trend away |
| 18:01.24 | Antiarc|Work | That point is in the Mandelbrot Set! |
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| 18:03.46 | Fisker- | so what Kenco is trying to make Threat unable to sync with KTM or what? |
| 18:03.52 | deltron | yes |
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| 18:03.55 | Antiarc|Work | No |
| 18:03.55 | Fisker- | i lol'd |
| 18:04.06 | Antiarc|Work | He's just saying that anyone sending Threat comm messages is not a valid KTM user |
| 18:04.09 | Antiarc|Work | (even if they are) |
| 18:04.27 | mikma | i say fry his ass |
| 18:04.34 | NeoTron | Antiarc|Work: I dunno why but threat seems really wack on VR |
| 18:04.35 | mikma | show him where the chicken pees! |
| 18:04.45 | PProvost | Win by being the best. Let him play defense all he wants. |
| 18:04.45 | NeoTron | do the MT's have to run threat as well |
| 18:04.46 | Antiarc|Work | Interoperability first. Users needs above developers' pride. :P |
| 18:04.47 | kaiden | Kenco sounds like a whiney child who realizes he sucks at coding and is trying to make himself look better by saying it's your fault |
| 18:04.50 | Pheredhel | ckknight: here? |
| 18:04.55 | Antiarc|Work | NeoTron: Yes. |
| 18:05.15 | NeoTron | wonder if that's the problem - not running it and thus not registering the knockback? |
| 18:05.28 | Antiarc|Work | That'd do it |
| 18:05.31 | Antiarc|Work | Or if they're out of date |
| 18:05.33 | Fisker- | that seems to be a proper course of action kaiden |
| 18:05.39 | Fisker- | i would've done the same! |
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| 18:05.39 | PProvost | He can't actually prevent you from spoofing his client. So let him spend all his cycles on that while Threat gets better and better. |
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| 18:06.02 | Antiarc|Work | Eh. I understand where he's coming from. He doesn't want KTM users blaming him for odd data in KTM that's coming from Threat users. |
| 18:06.09 | kaiden | i say it's already better than KTM and every guild i've introduced it to has dropped KTM on the spot |
| 18:06.11 | Antiarc|Work | But his solution is kinda surgery with a sledgehammer. |
| 18:07.13 | Antiarc|Work | I have a secret weapon though |
| 18:07.13 | Antiarc|Work | Like half my guild works as QA for symantec |
| 18:07.13 | Fisker- | rocket surgery ftw |
| 18:07.19 | liquiem | lol |
| 18:07.21 | Antiarc|Work | So they're absolutely fanatical about tracking down error cases. |
| 18:07.25 | Antiarc|Work | And they give the best bug reports ever. |
| 18:07.39 | Antiarc|Work | I have my own professional QA team that I don't have to pay! |
| 18:08.00 | Chompers | Antiarc, i'm not clear on what kenco has done |
| 18:08.06 | PProvost | The problem I've been having introducing many of our addons to my guild is that since we often don't have nice docs and often don't push to major addon sites, people don't think it is "done". |
| 18:08.07 | Kemayo | Dear sir, I wish to join your guild. |
| 18:08.17 | Chompers | does it mean if people run ktm/omen side by side, ktm, doesn't work? |
| 18:08.25 | PProvost | He's trying to do that Chompers |
| 18:08.39 | Chompers | what a way to force sides |
| 18:08.44 | CIA-22 | 03ammo * r41917 10oRA2/Leader/ (Item.lua Ready.lua Resist.lua): oRA2: leader, bugfixes, lots. |
| 18:08.47 | Antiarc|Work | Chompers: No, it works, it just reports that the user isn't running KTM |
| 18:09.03 | Chompers | that's not too bad |
| 18:09.13 | PProvost | Seems like we should be able to get around anything he does if we want to. Question is... do we? |
| 18:09.48 | Antiarc|Work | Well, we can't if he stays with this solution, but it breaks it for his own users too |
| 18:09.49 | Mikk | Not really |
| 18:10.15 | Mikk | The answer is: We don't give a shit about his users. And stop trying to fake KTM tbh since it isn't KTM. |
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| 18:11.15 | Antiarc|Work | It's a user friendliness thing. KTM-Omen interop is valid in single-target cases, or in cases when KTM and Omen have similar threat clears on events. |
| 18:11.43 | Mikk | Aye but we already have interop don't we? |
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| 18:11.56 | Mikk | There's no real need to pretend to be running KTM to users checking versions? |
| 18:12.54 | Antiarc|Work | Well, it was there because a raid leader wants to know who is running a threat meter, does a version query, and all people running meters respond |
| 18:13.18 | Antiarc|Work | I'd be content with him accepting a foreign version string and displaying that. |
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| 18:13.43 | Antiarc|Work | Just so that it's reported that that user is using Threat so that the raid leader knows that they do have a threat meter. |
| 18:13.46 | Chompers | version : 1.33.7 |
| 18:13.48 | Chompers | or something |
| 18:13.52 | Antiarc|Work | heh |
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| 18:14.12 | deltron | there is issues with people running older versions of KTM |
| 18:14.16 | deltron | screws up threat etc |
| 18:14.25 | sag_ich_nicht | author of rating buster here? |
| 18:15.01 | liquiem | that whole ktm omen think sounds like ms vs world .. it's all about specifications |
| 18:15.23 | TheKarn | the same problem existed in the CTRA vs oRA2 match |
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| 18:16.11 | Antiarc|Work | *shrug* If Kenco won't play ball, then I'll just continue to provide KTM data to Threat users. |
| 18:16.39 | TheKarn | the problem seems to be - someone writes a really useful addon, and someone else feels they can write a better simpler addon that does the same job - but better. |
| 18:17.17 | TheKarn | the new addon wants to work side-by-side with the old - but the old author never seems to want to play ball. |
| 18:17.26 | dodgizzla | Yeah I don't see the problem there. That's called innovation. It's a good thing. |
| 18:18.02 | Mikk | heh, been a long time since I saw someone running CTRA now :S |
| 18:18.06 | dodgizzla | It's like somebody had a medication against cancer which is painful and then somebody comes up with a painless method. And yet, the guy with the painful stuff still claims that his is better |
| 18:18.10 | dodgizzla | Mind boggling :D |
| 18:18.22 | Lyfe | based on everything i've heard about ktm, i'm not sure it's a very easy to maintain system, much less can the threat data easily be applied to it. |
| 18:18.22 | TheKarn | yeah |
| 18:18.50 | TheKarn | either way a more important item to address is bank support in SanityBags... ;) |
| 18:19.11 | Antiarc|Work | *chuckle* |
| 18:19.15 | dodgizzla | Yeah we should not lose focus |
| 18:19.18 | Antiarc|Work | Soon, TheKarn, soon. :) |
| 18:19.18 | TheKarn | <3 |
| 18:19.19 | dodgizzla | Antiarc|Work: Go fix Sanity :D |
| 18:19.20 | Lyfe | hence the threat-to-ktm mod, if i'm not mistaken. (which if i understand right, makes some assumptions) |
| 18:19.31 | TheKarn | anyone had any problems with the new filter parser? |
| 18:19.37 | Antiarc|Work | Not that I've heard of |
| 18:19.41 | TheKarn | good :) |
| 18:19.55 | TheKarn | i found some old tickets regarding the problems with the old one :) closed them now |
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| 18:20.29 | Morgh | Antiarc|Work: On Gruul today Omen showed me as one of the lowest on threat, while I was still getting hateful strikes. KTM was not enabled, and I don't think there are anyone using the latest ktm version |
| 18:20.40 | Antiarc|Work | Morgh: Class? |
| 18:20.43 | Morgh | Druid |
| 18:20.44 | Fisker- | hateful? |
| 18:20.46 | Fisker- | I lol'd |
| 18:20.47 | CIA-22 | 03ammo * r41918 10oRA2/Participant/Ready.lua: oRA2: participant/ready: bugfxies |
| 18:20.50 | Fisker- | since it's hurtful |
| 18:21.01 | Morgh | Hurtful then :) |
| 18:21.11 | Fisker- | btw when not bugged Gruul simply hits the number 2 on threat that is in melee range |
| 18:21.13 | Antiarc|Work | Hrm. Okay. Update when you get a chance - it might have been the Parser problem. |
| 18:21.35 | Antiarc|Work | If you continue to get less-than-expected threat, let me know and I'll figure it out. |
| 18:21.40 | CIA-22 | 03ammo * r41919 10oRA2/Participant/Ready.lua: oRA2: participant/ready, more bugfixes |
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| 18:21.58 | Morgh | You will have to wait a week Antiarc|Work... we killed him nonetheless :P |
| 18:22.04 | hypetech | hmm...WAU should be able to update itself without visiting the web page |
| 18:22.21 | deltron | won't happen |
| 18:22.24 | Dotted | [Ammo] is oRA2 really that buggy :P? |
| 18:22.27 | hypetech | ugh. the new one uses Java? :( |
| 18:22.32 | deltron | they do that by design hypetech |
| 18:22.44 | Morgh | Antiarc|Work: I'll update now. |
| 18:22.57 | Morgh | Actually, I did update 30 mins ago. |
| 18:23.00 | Morgh | >.> |
| 18:23.07 | Antiarc|Work | Hrm. When was the parser change made? |
| 18:23.11 | [Ammo] | Dotted: it was after a lot of cleanups |
| 18:23.20 | CIA-22 | 03adirelle * r41920 10SimpleSelfRebuff/: SimpleSelfRebuff: rebuff yourself on mousewheel. |
| 18:23.21 | Dotted | ok |
| 18:23.31 | Antiarc|Work | Ok, the parser change was made 1.5 hours ago |
| 18:23.38 | Antiarc|Work | So maybe you did have the latest version. Bugger. |
| 18:23.42 | Antiarc|Work | Thanks - I'll figure it out. |
| 18:23.58 | Antiarc|Work | Please let me know if you observe it again or have any additional information or whatever. |
| 18:23.58 | Morgh | I'll do another update now to check |
| 18:24.02 | Kalman| | hypetech: The new one uses Java so that it'll run cleanly on Mac/Linux, not just on Windows. |
| 18:24.14 | hypetech | Kalman|: ooo. good point :) I like it |
| 18:24.24 | Dotted | ius there a beta availble of WAU2? |
| 18:24.32 | hypetech | Dotted: ya, check the topic |
| 18:24.33 | Kaelten | Dotted: read the topic :P |
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| 18:24.36 | molt | lol, i never use java. its like installing a big hole in security |
| 18:24.43 | Dotted | woohoo |
| 18:24.52 | Kaelten | its still in early beta :) |
| 18:25.02 | Kalman| | Was gonna say: that said, it doesn't actually run on Macs yet. :) |
| 18:25.04 | hypetech | molt: just like installing windows |
| 18:25.09 | Kirkburn|afk | www.wowace.com/wau2 , no? |
| 18:25.23 | Kirkburn|afk | Ah, me noticed the topic, like he said >_> |
| 18:26.03 | cervanis | Antiarc|Work, you'll never get kenco to be happy and play ball with you |
| 18:26.07 | Dotted | hmm will WAU1 continue to be supported? |
| 18:26.11 | Kirkburn|afk | http://www.wau2.com/ ... |
| 18:26.16 | Antiarc|Work | *shrug* I can make a good faith effort. We'll go from there. |
| 18:26.30 | Kirkburn|afk | As long as sylvanaar wishes to, probably, Dotted |
| 18:26.36 | Dotted | ok |
| 18:26.47 | cervanis | i will say this, i play with both threat meters and yours is pretty accurate :) |
| 18:27.18 | Antiarc|Work | Heh, thanks |
| 18:27.27 | Antiarc|Work | (I play with both too, and think mine's pretty decent too *grin*) |
| 18:27.45 | Lyfe | *shrug*.. noone said ktm's perfect either ;) |
| 18:27.47 | Chompers | i dont see myself on omen, i guess this is the Parser problem? threat = 41855 |
| 18:28.11 | abyssichate | yeah |
| 18:28.15 | abyssichate | update Parser-3.0 and it'll be fine |
| 18:28.25 | Antiarc|Work | Yes, Chompers |
| 18:28.32 | Nebucadnezar | Hey Kaelten! |
| 18:28.34 | Antiarc|Work | http://img329.imageshack.us/my.php?image=uiofchampionsjh4.jpg |
| 18:28.45 | Kaelten | Nebucadnezar: ? |
| 18:28.51 | CIA-22 | 03adirelle * r41921 10SimpleSelfRebuff/ (10 files in 3 dirs): |
| 18:28.51 | CIA-22 | SimpleSelfRebuff: initial commit. |
| 18:28.51 | CIA-22 | - worky but only for hunter at the moment, |
| 18:28.51 | CIA-22 | - roughly tested. |
| 18:29.01 | Nebucadnezar | I figured out what was crashing WoW yesterday! Cartographer_HeatMap |
| 18:29.21 | AKX | ._. Yeah, I know. |
| 18:29.21 | *** join/#wowace KriLL3|Sailing (n=KriLL3@80.251.192.3) |
| 18:29.23 | AKX | It's buggy. |
| 18:29.24 | deltron | lol @ wau2.com |
| 18:29.26 | Nebucadnezar | Big bad NASTY bug!!!! |
| 18:29.32 | AKX | Or rather, it tries to allocate n zillion textures. |
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| 18:29.37 | *** mode/#wowace [+o hyperChipmunk] by ChanServ |
| 18:29.37 | AKX | WoW doesn't like that. |
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| 18:30.06 | Nebucadnezar | Only took me 6 hours to figure out what MOD it was. That is what I get for installing 20 add-ons at the same time. |
| 18:30.19 | deltron | Antiarc|Work: I thought that was a healer's UI for a second... |
| 18:30.26 | Chompers | that's alot of windows Antiara |
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| 18:30.32 | Chompers | *antiarc |
| 18:30.40 | Antiarc|Work | That's my "profiling Threat and Omen in raids" UI :D |
| 18:30.48 | mikma | AKX: and you suck ball. just one. |
| 18:31.15 | Chompers | the debug code looks interesting |
| 18:31.23 | PProvost | A question some of my guildies have asked: Can they have KTM and Omen installed at the same time while we are evaluating Omen as a replacement? |
| 18:31.23 | mikma | i can even visit you in hervanta if you wanna suck MY ball |
| 18:31.31 | PProvost | I told them I think so, but I wanted to ask here. |
| 18:31.44 | [dRaCo] | that UI is the most unusable one I've seen in a long time... |
| 18:31.49 | Antiarc|Work | PProvost: Yes, though the latest version of KTM will report that Threat users are not using KTM, even if they are. |
| 18:32.00 | Antiarc|Work | [dRaCo]: It's not supposed to be usable, it's supposed to tell me if my code sucks. :D |
| 18:32.02 | Gnarfoz | PProvost: yes, they can. they'll see no perfomance improvement, tho :) |
| 18:32.15 | [dRaCo] | and, does it? :> |
| 18:32.27 | Antiarc|Work | Yes! |
| 18:32.51 | AKX | mikma, .. Hervanta? Why there? D: |
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| 18:33.12 | art3mis | Antiarc|Work: uyou dont need an ugly ui to tell you your code sucks ;) |
| 18:33.12 | mikma | AKX: oh right you did live in turku or somewhere else in the persereikä of finland |
| 18:33.20 | mikma | it was the other dude, Iceroth that lives in hervanta |
| 18:33.23 | art3mis | hell i can just make a bot to do that for ya ;P |
| 18:33.27 | AKX | :D mikma... |
| 18:33.28 | Kaelten | Antiarc|Work: are you telling me that kenco checks for threat and then says those don't use ktm even if they do? |
| 18:33.32 | Antiarc|Work | art3mis: I was doing raid profiling :P |
| 18:33.36 | Antiarc|Work | Kaelten: Yes. |
| 18:33.42 | AKX | Well, in that case it's really damn wet and cold here in the persereikä of Finland. |
| 18:33.43 | Kaelten | wtf |
| 18:33.53 | Antiarc|Work | If KTM 2.1b gets a comm message with a "Thr" prefix it assumes that sender is not a valid KTM user. |
| 18:34.00 | art3mis | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:34.03 | art3mis | ;) |
| 18:34.04 | mikma | yeah i know, has been raining in here for 2 days |
| 18:34.13 | Antiarc|Work | *lip quiver* |
| 18:34.28 | *** part/#wowace Necrathex (n=bleptop@h8441158027.dsl.speedlinq.nl) |
| 18:34.30 | art3mis | see now you can have a pretty ui ;) |
| 18:35.07 | Codayus | *blink* Wait..so KTM blacklists the KTM data from actual KTM users if they also run Threat? ... |
| 18:35.12 | Antiarc|Work | Yes. |
| 18:35.15 | art3mis | yup |
| 18:35.15 | Antiarc|Work | Well, not |
| 18:35.16 | Codayus | Wow. |
| 18:35.17 | Antiarc|Work | Not the data |
| 18:35.19 | Antiarc|Work | Just the version |
| 18:35.27 | Antiarc|Work | So when you do a version query, it says that they aren't running KTM |
| 18:35.27 | Codayus | Ah, not too bad then. |
| 18:35.31 | molt | s1 should make a froum post on how to change KTM code so it wont ignore Threat (for us that want it to go side by side) |
| 18:35.34 | Antiarc|Work | The threat data isn't blacklsited. |
| 18:35.41 | Antiarc|Work | But, I wouldn't be surprised if that shows up. |
| 18:35.45 | art3mis | if threat and ktm come from the same UID it doesnt believe that said UID is running a real ktm |
| 18:35.48 | Kirkburn|afk | Why would it do that in the first place? |
| 18:35.54 | Antiarc|Work | molt: It won't ignore it right now, it just won't show up in a version query. |
| 18:36.03 | molt | ok |
| 18:36.16 | Vangual | surely he'll revert that change once you both agreed on a new identification? |
| 18:36.18 | Antiarc|Work | molt: If you want to remove the check, though, comment out the if block on line 188 of KTM_Net.lua |
| 18:36.23 | Antiarc|Work | Vangual: I'm hoping so. |
| 18:36.28 | art3mis | Vangual: they havent agreed yet ;P |
| 18:36.50 | Vangual | it's only in his beta right? |
| 18:36.53 | art3mis | kenco seems to want people to use his and only his as though its prorietary |
| 18:36.58 | Antiarc|Work | Yes, only in the beta. |
| 18:37.05 | art3mis | which seems rather retarded |
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| 18:37.18 | Cheads | uhmm anyone know of a simple notepad-like addon? |
| 18:37.31 | art3mis | mapnotes? |
| 18:37.35 | art3mis | tinynote |
| 18:37.41 | art3mis | i think thats what its called |
| 18:37.44 | Vangual | dunno, i've seen much more aggressive behaviour of coders against thirdparty injection in other projects :) |
| 18:37.45 | mikma | CT_MapNotes or something |
| 18:37.48 | mikma | that's tiny |
| 18:37.49 | Kirkburn|afk | Oh, is this his "KTm won't respect spoofed version messages" change? |
| 18:37.53 | art3mis | lemme check mazzle ui folder |
| 18:38.01 | Vangual | seems rather harmless for now |
| 18:38.09 | Cheads | not mapnote.. just some basic thing like notepad for windows =) |
| 18:38.11 | rubik | can you make threat send fake threat (or subtract threat) from ktm to screw with it? pretty please with a cherry on top? (if kenco doesn't play nice) |
| 18:38.15 | CIA-22 | 03saroz * r41922 10sRaidFrames/ (locales/enUS.lua sRaidFramesGroupFilter.lua): sRaidFrames: Add ability to add new filter sets |
| 18:38.22 | Saroz | there molt |
| 18:38.51 | Mikk | Cheads: Omnibus, Tinypad |
| 18:38.56 | Mikk | If you just want notepadding |
| 18:38.56 | rubik | (i was j/k, for the record) |
| 18:39.13 | Mikk | If you want to note items / mobs, I'm using Note-It and I like it. The texts show up in tooltips. |
| 18:39.19 | art3mis | yeah tinypad |
| 18:39.27 | Mikk | Very useful for remembering which type of mod does what in heroics! |
| 18:39.32 | Mikk | s/mod/mob/ |
| 18:39.56 | durcyn | i wouldn't run KTM20 if you held a gun to my head, that remote lua exec module is doing to bite kenco's entire ass off and spit it out. |
| 18:39.56 | Cheads | ok thanks.. using omnibus.. far too complex imho |
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| 18:40.07 | Antiarc|Work | Kirkburn|afk: Yes. |
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| 18:40.35 | art3mis | ominbus was meant as a writing sandbox for lua ;) |
| 18:40.43 | art3mis | not really a note pad per se |
| 18:40.59 | trh_ | Antiarc|Work: just fake the new message.. kenco doesn't listen to reason and will probably flame your reply in the comments anyway :) |
| 18:41.03 | Kirkburn|afk | k, just read your post on CG Antiarc - here's hoping something gets sorted out :) |
| 18:41.20 | Antiarc|Work | trh_: Thing is, he's listening for any Threat comm message and then invalidating that entire client |
| 18:41.24 | Cheads | ok art3mis =) |
| 18:41.25 | Kirkburn|afk | Let's wait a see first, eh :P |
| 18:41.29 | Kirkburn|afk | *and |
| 18:41.34 | Antiarc|Work | So I can't work around it for version requests, but he's shooting himself in the foot with this solution too. |
| 18:41.43 | liquiem | hmm, if i multiply my threat/dmg output with 1.05, does it look right to other users or does sync make that values tainted? |
| 18:41.52 | art3mis | Kirkburn|afk: no no lets poke the wasp's nest with a stick for a while THEN see what comes out ;P |
| 18:41.55 | trh_ | Antiarc|Work: lol... ok.. he wants incompatibility... just add a optdep: klhthreatmeter and do a klhtm = nil ;) |
| 18:42.00 | Kirkburn|afk | hah |
| 18:42.10 | Antiarc|Work | liquiem: What do you mean? |
| 18:42.31 | dodgizzla | durcyn: Wait what.. there is a way to remotely execute code via KTM? |
| 18:42.41 | Antiarc|Work | In KTM20, yes. |
| 18:42.41 | Vangual | or just treat it like adults, identify properly and give him a chance to also accept tl-tagged communication on his own :) |
| 18:42.44 | Antiarc|Work | Or there will be. |
| 18:42.52 | Antiarc|Work | Exactly, Vangual. |
| 18:42.54 | deltron | remotely execute code? |
| 18:42.56 | deltron | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:42.57 | dodgizzla | I'm so gonna exploit that :> |
| 18:43.02 | Antiarc|Work | It's intended for boss modules. |
| 18:43.02 | dodgizzla | I'm rich biatch! |
| 18:43.14 | Antiarc|Work | But it's going to be trivial to remotely hardlock any client in your group. |
| 18:43.15 | liquiem | Antiarc|Work, if i multiply all values i generate like threat or dmg with 1.05 before the get broadcast over sync channel, does it work or is there some kind of spoof prevention? |
| 18:43.16 | trh_ | WTF? remote code execution via ktm20? :) |
| 18:43.28 | Antiarc|Work | liquiem: That'll work. |
| 18:43.37 | Kirkburn|afk | Not out-of-WoW code! |
| 18:43.40 | dodgizzla | Antiarc|Work: What good is hardlocking! Just /split the money of your raid :D |
| 18:43.49 | Kirkburn|afk | *in-game* code |
| 18:43.54 | Antiarc|Work | dodgizzla: It executes in a setfenv, so you don't have access to _G |
| 18:44.02 | Gnarfoz | dodgizzla: /split was removed long ago |
| 18:44.05 | dodgizzla | Man, now I'm a sad panda :( |
| 18:44.21 | Fisker- | i made it happen dodgizzla :D |
| 18:44.23 | Kirkburn|afk | Sheesh, it's not gonna give you access to your raid leader's Credit Card details, no :P |
| 18:44.49 | dodgizzla | Gnarfoz: Then I'll have to do funky stuff with PickupPlayerMoney :D |
| 18:44.54 | Antiarc|Work | If there's a leak back to _G from the tables he includes in the environment, then it could be Very Bad. |
| 18:44.55 | rubik | awww.. so GuildDisband() is not possible? |
| 18:45.07 | Antiarc|Work | Not unless you can get a reference back to _G. |
| 18:45.07 | Gnarfoz | can't disband guilds with members in them anyway |
| 18:45.11 | dodgizzla | rubik: Innovative and a whole new level :D |
| 18:45.17 | rubik | :P |
| 18:45.24 | art3mis | gnarfox yes you can |
| 18:45.26 | Chompers | running Violation, would someone having DM spying enabled affect the stats shown for everyone? |
| 18:45.37 | art3mis | had it happen twice |
| 18:45.48 | dodgizzla | Okay.. why can't I find KTM via Curse? |
| 18:45.59 | dodgizzla | They did not finally realize it's crap and threw it into the bin? |
| 18:46.07 | NeoTron | dodgizzla: because curse's search is really fricking weird |
| 18:46.07 | Fisker- | their search is borked as far as i remember |
| 18:46.08 | trh_ | let's find a way to use _G and rob everyones money.. BEST way to show them how crappy ktm is :) |
| 18:46.08 | art3mis | dodgizzla: its so awesome that you're just not allowed to view it anymore ;P |
| 18:46.08 | deltron | klh threat meter |
| 18:46.12 | NeoTron | go to the Wow section => addons |
| 18:46.14 | Morgh | You need to search for klhtreatmeter |
| 18:46.16 | PProvost | dodgizzla, http://www-en.curse-gaming.com/downloads/details/4204/#comment_272871 |
| 18:46.17 | rubik | dodgizzla: it prolly shows up on a query for 'Omen' |
| 18:46.18 | Kirkburn|afk | There's a guild disband exploit >< |
| 18:46.20 | NeoTron | and then search in the lower box |
| 18:46.21 | Morgh | http://wow-en.curse-gaming.com/downloads/details/4204/ |
| 18:46.22 | NeoTron | and it's not so bad |
| 18:46.23 | Antiarc|Work | We run in a guild alliance for raids. After a raid once, the raid leader typed /gdisband rather than /raiddisband |
| 18:46.23 | Gnarfoz | art3mis: then that must have been changed, last time I had the pleasure, I needed a GM to disband my guild because I couldn't figure out a scenario where I am both not in a guild with > 1 member and NOT the current guild leader xD |
| 18:46.26 | deltron | and make sure you search via the addon search heh |
| 18:46.30 | dodgizzla | rubik: I'd try that last :\ |
| 18:46.34 | Fisker- | i lol'd |
| 18:46.41 | dodgizzla | ~ktmflame |
| 18:46.49 | dodgizzla | Why didn't anyone add that yet? :D |
| 18:46.51 | Fisker- | Someone made a "WoW GM Island" movie which showed the 2 islands south of tanaris |
| 18:46.51 | Fisker- | ;D |
| 18:46.54 | dodgizzla | purl: ktmflame is http://www-en.curse-gaming.com/downloads/details/4204/#comment_272871 |
| 18:46.55 | purl | okay, dodgizzla |
| 18:46.57 | hypetech | Fisker-: lol |
| 18:46.59 | dodgizzla | Haha! Haxxored |
| 18:46.59 | Shirik | Nebucadnezar: ? |
| 18:47.01 | Antiarc|Work | Hahahahahahah. |
| 18:47.02 | art3mis | Gnarfoz: not sure, before i transfered servers the GM disbanded the guild with about 50 or 60 people in it still so....... |
| 18:47.13 | Gnarfoz | weird. |
| 18:47.21 | hypetech | you can disband with people in the guild |
| 18:47.28 | Nebucadnezar | Shirik: Hey man! |
| 18:47.32 | dodgizzla | I thought when your guild master /gquit's the guild disbands automatically |
| 18:47.34 | Gnarfoz | perhaps I'm mixing things up then, tho |
| 18:47.36 | dodgizzla | Did they fix that? |
| 18:47.38 | art3mis | prior to 1.6 i dont think you could |
| 18:47.40 | Gnarfoz | dodgizzla: can't quit as the leader |
| 18:47.48 | dodgizzla | Gnarfoz: Yeah lemme try that... not :P |
| 18:47.49 | Gnarfoz | that's what I must have been thinking about, then |
| 18:47.55 | hypetech | wow. the WAU2 is pretty |
| 18:48.01 | hypetech | what do the green and yellow lines mean? |
| 18:48.09 | art3mis | green is for go and yellow is for pee |
| 18:48.11 | Codayus | Guild master can't quit but you can disband with people in it. And until recently, there was NO confirmation message for disbanding. |
| 18:48.14 | art3mis | ;) |
| 18:48.18 | art3mis | <--- mature |
| 18:48.20 | Nebucadnezar | Shirik: Figured out yesterdays WoW boggle! |
| 18:49.41 | hypetech | is the PTR not up? |
| 18:49.44 | NeoTron | ah so kenco is trying to make sure trheat-1.0 can't feed data to ktm |
| 18:50.00 | rubik | local TEH_BUTTON_NAME = "SimpleSelfRebuffButton" <-- haha.. <3 the var name |
| 18:50.13 | hypetech | NeoTron: that's pretty shitty of him |
| 18:50.13 | dodgizzla | Oh you're so gonna feed KTM stuff, won't you? Please say you will! :D |
| 18:50.15 | snurre | meh.. overlord for pc was an annoying game :/ |
| 18:50.19 | Morgh | Codayus: Our GuildMaster managed to disband our guild by accident. The following patch added a confirmation box... :P |
| 18:50.25 | liquiem | 11.7mb for wau2? wth |
| 18:50.33 | rubik | java++? |
| 18:50.37 | Shirik | Nebucadnezar: what's that? |
| 18:51.08 | Dotted | NeoTron only version replies |
| 18:51.15 | Codayus | snurre: Hmm? Overlord? That isn't released yet is it? |
| 18:51.35 | art3mis | yeah it is |
| 18:51.39 | Morgh | Any way to add sound to the default Blizz ready.-check? |
| 18:51.44 | art3mis | saw it warez the other day |
| 18:52.22 | Antiarc|Work | NeoTron: Not yet. Just making sure that Threat clients don't show up in the version query. |
| 18:52.29 | Shirik | uh |
| 18:52.31 | Chompers | maulgar with 5 healers :D |
| 18:52.31 | Nebucadnezar | Shirik: Carographer_HeatMap |
| 18:52.32 | Shirik | there is sound? |
| 18:52.45 | Chompers | thank god for pots |
| 18:52.51 | Moltarain | hmm, is it possible to make chat windows click trough (using prat addon atm) |
| 18:52.57 | Nebucadnezar | Looks like INstanceMaps has issues too. I will post error later. |
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| 18:53.32 | Nebucadnezar | Something about a double entry in a LUA file for enUS |
| 18:54.13 | snurre | Codayus: was released yesterday... simply feels like a fable-like console game directly ported to PC with not much modification |
| 18:54.19 | jme | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=113942317&sid=1 |
| 18:54.21 | trh_ | ok.. let's spread some FUD in the guild about ktm, hopefully they'll switch to omen :) |
| 18:54.33 | Codayus | snurre: I played the demo and it seemed fun. Hmm... |
| 18:54.46 | deltron | lol |
| 18:54.53 | hypetech | :'( I want PTR :( |
| 18:54.54 | snurre | keyboard controls are icky and not configurable.. and i got stuck and really dont see how i can advance any more :/ |
| 18:55.03 | TheKarn | Antiarc|Work, am i going mad? I can't see where in SanityBags you're toggling the bags on merchent/bank/mailbox etc |
| 18:55.17 | Antiarc|Work | TheKarn: I'm hooking an event, I think |
| 18:55.41 | Antiarc|Work | SanityBags:OpenAllBags() |
| 18:55.44 | deltron | jme: lol @ forum post |
| 18:55.49 | hypetech | why does WAU2 show about 15 of my mods out of date, while the newest version of WAU sees them as current? 0.o |
| 18:55.51 | Antiarc|Work | Hooked from OnEnable() |
| 18:56.01 | jme | deltron: yeah, just saw that, hehe |
| 18:57.48 | rubik | true or false? violation (as of now) interacts with sw_stats (both in & outbound) and there is no need for me to continue to run sw_stats if i have violation? |
| 18:58.04 | dodgizzla | rubik: Partially true! |
| 18:58.08 | rubik | uh oh |
| 18:58.14 | deltron | I don't run sw_stats |
| 18:58.40 | sag_ich_nicht | what |
| 18:58.47 | sag_ich_nicht | sw_stats/violation interaction? |
| 18:58.52 | nadas | i do but i'm sloppy :) |
| 18:58.55 | dodgizzla | rubik: I found that while Violation truly is hawt sauce, the peeps with SW_Stats had other numbers than me |
| 18:59.01 | deltron | yeah |
| 18:59.10 | dodgizzla | And even if I run SWS along with Violation the numbers don't add up |
| 18:59.12 | rubik | gotcha.. yeah, i've been seeing different numbers too |
| 18:59.13 | deltron | sw_stats synchs |
| 18:59.19 | deltron | s/synchs/syncs/ |
| 18:59.22 | sag_ich_nicht | /r/eq. full implementation with support for damage meters & recap & re(something, forgot the name) as well |
| 18:59.22 | sag_ich_nicht | :O |
| 18:59.29 | dodgizzla | So something is probably "le borked" |
| 18:59.47 | nadas | ~seen ckknight |
| 19:00.00 | purl | ckknight is currently on #wowi-lounge #norganna #wowace. Has said a total of 119 messages. Is idling for 1h 27m 15s, last said: 'your computer sucks'. |
| 19:00.00 | xt | ughh |
| 19:00.01 | xt | my threat doesnt even in update in omen |
| 19:00.01 | dodgizzla | But I barely notice Violation and so I run em both :D |
| 19:00.01 | xt | no more |
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| 19:00.01 | jme | sag_ich_nicht: recount? |
| 19:00.10 | Antiarc|Work | xt: Update, Parser broke yesterday, it's been fixed. |
| 19:00.11 | Cryect | xt: update |
| 19:00.23 | xt | thought i just did |
| 19:00.32 | xt | Cryect: btw, recount is really nice now |
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| 19:00.53 | Antiarc|Work | xt: If you're running disembedded, update Parser |
| 19:00.57 | Antiarc|Work | (Parser-3.0) |
| 19:01.02 | xt | 1yeah i am |
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| 19:01.55 | xt | hah, like evreyone in the guild updated before raid and got the bad version |
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| 19:04.27 | ulic | anyone know of an addon that gives something similar to the quickslot functionality from Outfitter? |
| 19:05.00 | deltron | quickslot? |
| 19:05.38 | Dotted | http://media6.curse-gaming.com/images/previews/23615/outfitter-quickslots.jpg |
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| 19:05.43 | ulic | you click on an item on your paperdoll and it shoots out a little bar to the side, with all theother items that can go in that slot |
| 19:05.55 | dodgizzla | Just use ItemRack :D |
| 19:06.09 | deltron | ahh |
| 19:06.12 | deltron | I forgot about that |
| 19:06.28 | deltron | I use closetgnome though, so I don't know |
| 19:06.35 | deltron | I did see one mod that was like that |
| 19:06.41 | CIA-22 | 03kemayo * r41923 10FuBar_QuestsFu/ (Announce/Announce.lua PartyNotify/PartyNotify.lua): |
| 19:06.41 | CIA-22 | FuBar_QuestsFu: |
| 19:06.41 | CIA-22 | - Change some wording to be clearer. |
| 19:06.47 | hypetech | does closetgnome depend on an item's position in your bag at all? |
| 19:06.55 | deltron | no |
| 19:07.05 | deltron | though if you enchant it, you need to update your set |
| 19:07.12 | hypetech | cool |
| 19:07.16 | ulic | yea, was thinking about moving to closetgnome, but I like the quickslots, and was hoping to not have to write my own :) |
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| 19:07.48 | Killmore | Antiarc|Work: what is the profiler you use on the right side of your screenshot ? |
| 19:07.49 | Antiarc|Work | SwapMagic does quickslots |
| 19:07.52 | Antiarc|Work | And I can't live without it |
| 19:07.55 | Antiarc|Work | Killmore: Expo |
| 19:07.58 | Dotted | wewt |
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| 19:08.31 | ulic | hmm, I'll check it out |
| 19:08.37 | ulic | thanks Antiarc|Work |
| 19:08.42 | Dotted | a wardrope addon that actually is on par with outfitter /amazed |
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| 19:09.33 | Dotted | stop updated WAU1 plz, its getting silly now |
| 19:09.47 | ulic | hehe |
| 19:09.57 | ulic | I'm update mine to .18 now, ugh |
| 19:10.05 | ulic | or maybe get an updater for the updater :P |
| 19:10.08 | Dotted | i just updated mine to .17 |
| 19:10.31 | ulic | well you're one behind now :) |
| 19:10.41 | Dotted | i know |
| 19:10.48 | Dotted | i updated like 30 mins ago |
| 19:10.56 | Dotted | and now i can do it again >_> |
| 19:11.42 | Kirkburn|afk | sylv has gone on holiday |
| 19:11.46 | dodgizzla | Running Latest Version (1.9.18.412) |
| 19:11.47 | dodgizzla | haha! :D |
| 19:12.00 | Kirkburn|afk | So you may just possibly get what you wanted |
| 19:12.20 | Dotted | ajhahhaa |
| 19:12.23 | Dotted | wau crashed |
| 19:12.32 | Saroz | ye, same |
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| 19:13.49 | hypetech | what is the difference between using "local options" and "self.options" for the options section of a mod? |
| 19:14.16 | Kirkburn|afk | Dotted, Saroz on first run only? |
| 19:14.30 | Dotted | yep |
| 19:14.30 | Kirkburn|afk | I sometimes get a crash on first run after an update |
| 19:14.46 | Kirkburn|afk | Odd, must be something to do with updating settings |
| 19:18.58 | Chompers | Antiarc, can you add a threat wipe to the lair brutes in Gruuls Lair? |
| 19:19.06 | Chompers | when they charge someone |
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| 19:23.38 | Antiarc|Work | Chompers: Is it a wipe, or just a plain old secondary target charge? |
| 19:23.55 | Antiarc|Work | Also, that wouldn't really work in any pull with 2+ brutes :/ |
| 19:26.15 | Chompers | if people are far enough away from the brute, he can charge them, wiping all agro |
| 19:26.25 | Antiarc|Work | Hm. |
| 19:26.32 | Josh_Borke | you mean they don't reset aggro if you're close to them? |
| 19:26.48 | Antiarc|Work | I'm not sure how to do that without completely breaking threat values in 2+ brute pulls |
| 19:26.53 | Antiarc|Work | Since one charging with wipe threat on all brutes. |
| 19:26.57 | Chompers | good point |
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| 19:27.13 | Chompers | never mind then, its probaby easier to leave it how it is |
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| 19:32.17 | Arrowmaster | if its know how much of a threat wipe the charge is i would say add it, theres single pulls and double pulls that can have a brute and a priest in them |
| 19:32.27 | Arrowmaster | sometimes the tripple pull is a brute and 2 priests |
| 19:32.47 | CIA-22 | 03gamefaq * r41924 10Prat/ (4 files in 3 dirs): Prat: deDE Update |
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| 19:33.09 | hypetech | anybody that knows their way around the candybar API decently around? |
| 19:33.27 | Antiarc|Work | http://www.wowace.com/wiki/CandyBar-2.0 ? :) |
| 19:33.57 | hypetech | Antiarc|Work: oh yes, I've read that. I have a specific question right now. |
| 19:34.05 | Kirkburn|afk | Since when can a machine know it's way around the candybar API decently? You crazy fool! :P |
| 19:34.32 | Peoii | well technically..... |
| 19:35.18 | hypetech | I just need some help with the sections where I can move and save the position of the timer bar. I have it working to the point where the bar comes up in a static position |
| 19:35.54 | Kirkburn|afk | I'll have no mad Peoii propaganda here! |
| 19:36.00 | hypetech | I borrowed the same code that DDD and HC borrowed from BigWigs, but I'm getting an error from trying to start a non-registered TestBar when I try to use the anchor option |
| 19:37.30 | hyperChipmunk | wut I borrow? |
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| 19:37.50 | hypetech | HotCandy, not you :p |
| 19:37.55 | hypetech | and DotDotDot |
| 19:38.07 | Peoii | Kirkburn|afk: bah to you... bah I say. |
| 19:38.33 | xt | gah |
| 19:38.37 | xt | voidreaver still not working |
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| 19:39.17 | Antiarc|Work | xt: Everyone's up to date? What's the issue? |
| 19:39.24 | Kalman| | hypetech: Pastey me or link me the code, I'll take a look - no promises, though. |
| 19:39.28 | Antiarc|Work | (that is, everyone reverted the parser?) |
| 19:40.24 | Adirelle | ckknight: finally, the mousewheel rebuff wasn't so hard to obtain |
| 19:40.49 | hypetech | Kalman|: here is the anchor.lua, the only thing I have changed from DDD or HC is the mod name http://rafb.net/p/kPLU2611.html |
| 19:41.12 | hypetech | Kalman|: line 137 of that, the candybar it tries to show is not registered before hand |
| 19:41.44 | hypetech | Kalman|: and here is my core.lua http://rafb.net/p/7tQio769.html |
| 19:42.11 | sag_ich_nicht | [20:59] <jme> sag_ich_nicht: recount? <--yes |
| 19:42.28 | [gk]Hotphoenix | whats going on with threat/omen atm i can't see my own threat and a couple others in the raid have the same problem :/ |
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| 19:42.47 | Antiarc|Work | [gk]Hotphoenix: Update, Parser broke yesterday and has been reverted. |
| 19:42.55 | [gk]Hotphoenix | kk |
| 19:43.44 | xt | Antiarc|Work: yeah |
| 19:43.54 | xt | MT updated the second before he puleld |
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| 19:44.24 | hypetech | anybody else noticed syncing issues with sw_stats the last couple of days? |
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| 19:49.45 | Kalman| | hypetech: The only real difference I can see is that you aren't registering a candybar group. |
| 19:51.04 | hypetech | Kalman|: right. well I wasn't really wanting a group. I only need one bar. I'll try to add the group, but I still don't understand the point of the TestBar if it isn't registered. |
| 19:51.38 | Kalman| | hypetech: It tries to create 4 testbars. |
| 19:51.52 | hypetech | Kalman|: ah, well that makes more sense |
| 19:52.23 | hypetech | Kalman|: there was a reason I didn't do the groups, I'll let you know what it was, as soon as it hits me again while I'm adding thit :p |
| 19:52.25 | hypetech | it* |
| 19:52.30 | Awaa | oRA2 error, http://ace.pastey.net/69960 |
| 19:52.55 | Kalman| | Well, simple fix to try would be to nuke 138 and 140 in anchor.lua |
| 19:53.12 | Kalman| | Er, and modify 139 to remove the references to i, of course. |
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| 19:54.40 | jme | hmm |
| 19:54.44 | hypetech | Kalman|: right, but then how would I set the anchor? |
| 19:54.53 | jme | i want to get a level 1 summoned somewhere in the outlands, and see how far it levels off zone discovery |
| 19:55.11 | hypetech | Kalman|: btw, I never used "self:RegisterCandyBarWithGroup", before. Guess I overlooked it, so my groups weren't working, I'll try it now |
| 19:56.13 | Antiarc|Work | xt: What kind of errors or discrepancies were there? |
| 19:56.22 | xt | was trying to figure it out |
| 19:56.27 | Kalman| | Seems like you shouldn't have to, but Im not up for looking through the CB library code right now. |
| 19:56.33 | xt | one of our tanks was using KTM though |
| 19:56.39 | xt | might been confusing me |
| 19:56.55 | xt | but our highest tank on Threat didnt have aggro |
| 19:57.00 | CIA-22 | 03jaslaughter * r41925 10JasonQuest/ (Comm.lua Core.lua JasonQuest.toc LogFrame.lua ReadMe.txt): |
| 19:57.00 | CIA-22 | JasonQuest: |
| 19:57.00 | CIA-22 | - [#] Number of members on quest indicator now updates when the party updates |
| 19:57.00 | CIA-22 | - Fixed Core.lua line 565:attempt to index field '?' (a number value) |
| 19:57.00 | CIA-22 | - Fixed LogFrame.lua:513: bad argument #2 to 'format' (number expected, got nil) |
| 19:57.00 | CIA-22 | - Attempt 1 to reduce 'does not exist' errors during raids (drycoded) |
| 19:57.08 | Antiarc|Work | xt: Next time you do it, /run AceLibrary("Threat-1.0").DebugEnabled = true; ChatFrame5:Show() |
| 19:57.15 | Antiarc|Work | That'll show you when reductions occur |
| 19:57.16 | deltron | he could have also been using an older version of KTM |
| 19:57.19 | xt | sure thing |
| 19:58.16 | xt | When is roartindon getting home ^^ |
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| 19:58.27 | Antiarc|Work | xt: Thanks for your patience while testing this :) |
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| 19:58.31 | Antiarc|Work | I really appreciate the help |
| 19:59.28 | xt | http://elessar.bash.no/wow/WoWScrnShot_062707_213800.jpg |
| 20:00.16 | Antiarc|Work | Well, Ziren is using KTM there |
| 20:00.22 | Stan3 | omg bloated^^ |
| 20:00.33 | xt | Antiarc|Work: yeah |
| 20:00.42 | xt | that's the only SS i got when he's not targetting some orb guy |
| 20:00.53 | xt | :( |
| 20:01.28 | Antiarc|Work | xt: Who got aggro after Arkina? |
| 20:01.29 | hypetech | Kalman|: even when I register a group, when the TestBar function gets called I get "Attempt to call method ShowCandyBar - a nil value |
| 20:01.31 | Antiarc|Work | Err |
| 20:01.33 | Antiarc|Work | After Ziren |
| 20:01.46 | xt | Pretty sure it wasnt Arkina |
| 20:01.47 | Antiarc|Work | I assume that Arkina and Shii are your other tanks? |
| 20:01.48 | xt | that's the thing |
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| 20:01.55 | xt | arkina was higher then shii |
| 20:01.57 | xt | but shii had aggro |
| 20:02.05 | Mudkipz | omg |
| 20:02.09 | Antiarc|Work | Probably a discrepancy in druid/warrior threat then. |
| 20:02.10 | xt | arkina was getting the misdirects btw |
| 20:02.12 | Mudkipz | it makes me cry |
| 20:02.16 | Mudkipz | my eyes |
| 20:02.25 | Antiarc|Work | But they're sitting on top of the other DPS, which is good. |
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| 20:02.40 | xt | yeah:) |
| 20:02.42 | Antiarc|Work | Also, how do you look like one of the Broken dudes? |
| 20:02.46 | hypetech | Kalman|: it starts bitching at line 55 which is self.frames.leftbutton:SetScript( "OnClick", function() self:TestBars() end ) |
| 20:02.59 | Mikk | WAU requires Windows XP or later |
| 20:03.00 | Mikk | bolx |
| 20:03.01 | Mikk | works just fine on 2k |
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| 20:03.04 | CIA-22 | 03hegarol * r41926 10AtlasLoot/Instances/burningcrusade.en.lua: |
| 20:03.04 | CIA-22 | AtlasLoot: |
| 20:03.04 | CIA-22 | - Raid loot upgrade |
| 20:03.27 | xt | Antiarc|Work: http://www.wowhead.com/?item=31946 |
| 20:03.56 | xt | Only works inside TK, it's a part of BT quest chain iirc |
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| 20:04.16 | Antiarc|Work | Hot. |
| 20:04.16 | Peoii | I love that item :) |
| 20:04.18 | Daemona | Antiarc|Work its part of the attunement quest for BT / Hyjal |
| 20:04.26 | Antiarc|Work | xt: Is that recount in the bottom middle of your screen? |
| 20:04.27 | Mudkipz | My cowl is gone :( |
| 20:04.31 | xt | Antiarc|Work: yea |
| 20:04.35 | Antiarc|Work | That is sexy as hell. |
| 20:04.35 | Mudkipz | I didn't want to turn it in because I could stay as a bear inside TK lol |
| 20:04.36 | xt | no |
| 20:04.38 | Antiarc|Work | Installing that when I get home. |
| 20:04.42 | Mudkipz | and not break the image when I shift |
| 20:04.42 | xt | Antiarc|Work: no.that's assessment |
| 20:04.44 | Peoii | hehe |
| 20:04.44 | Mudkipz | damn you blizzard |
| 20:04.46 | Mudkipz | !!!!!!!!!!!!!!1 |
| 20:04.47 | Antiarc|Work | Ooh, okay. |
| 20:04.49 | xt | recount is bottom right |
| 20:04.53 | Antiarc|Work | Still sexy as hell. |
| 20:05.16 | xt | I do like dmg meters :D |
| 20:05.21 | Cryect | Assessment is good stuff |
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| 20:05.27 | Antiarc|Work | I'm a numbers nerd too |
| 20:05.31 | Antiarc|Work | So yeah, that kind of thing appeals to me |
| 20:05.44 | Cryect | Good you should like the math I worked out for focus numbers :-p |
| 20:05.45 | xt | Cryect: you should help roartindon with DPS |
| 20:05.48 | xt | real dps |
| 20:05.53 | xt | i saw recount had tha tnow |
| 20:06.07 | Gagorian | Antiar1: Humm. Any way to get rounding into omen threat bars? |
| 20:06.22 | Kalman| | Rounding like 2.2k instead of 2200? |
| 20:06.51 | abyssichate | Antiarc|Work: is there a way to shorten threat values in Omen? |
| 20:06.52 | Cryect | If its not subdecimal accuracy its not good enough |
| 20:06.55 | trh_ | Cryect: http://ace.pastey.net/69961 <- could already be fixed, came upon deleting my data |
| 20:07.02 | Antiarc|Work | abyssichate: What do you mean? |
| 20:07.10 | Antiarc|Work | Oh, yes, you can round it |
| 20:07.11 | abyssichate | Writing 2,2k instead of 2200 for example |
| 20:07.25 | Antiarc|Work | Uh, Skins -> Skin Options -> Shorten Threat Numbers or something |
| 20:07.32 | Cryect | trh_: prolly is because the line that is in my is GameTooltip:AddLine("") |
| 20:07.42 | abyssichate | I missed that I think |
| 20:07.43 | abyssichate | thanks |
| 20:07.57 | Antiarc|Work | abyssichate: It's US-style, though - period delimiter |
| 20:08.02 | Cryect | if it not it will reoccur and someone will let me know |
| 20:08.08 | Antiarc|Work | I guess I should have it be a different delimiter for different locales. |
| 20:08.13 | Saroz | ckknight, ping |
| 20:08.19 | Antiarc|Work | Which locales use %2.1f and which use %2,1f? |
| 20:08.21 | Cryect | Seems to be ways though names without data slip on the mainwindow |
| 20:08.29 | Antiarc|Work | Or does string.format do that automatically? |
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| 20:08.33 | Cryect | EU locales should use , |
| 20:08.41 | Cryect | enGB I think is . ? |
| 20:08.42 | Antiarc|Work | deDE, frFR, esES? |
| 20:08.43 | Gagorian | Hurmm. Yeah I see now. Most people probably can't find it in skin options :p |
| 20:08.48 | abyssichate | I don't really mind about the delimiter as long as it is shortened |
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| 20:08.57 | Kalman| | Oh. You don't seem to be defining ShowCandyBar, that's why. |
| 20:09.12 | Antiarc|Work | Gagorian: The idea is that "Display Options" are skin-independent and "Skin Options" are skin dependent |
| 20:09.22 | Antiarc|Work | I guess I could add "Skin options" as a sub-menu of display options |
| 20:09.26 | Saroz | vhaarr, ping |
| 20:09.39 | liquiem | Funkeh`, misdirect cd bar for bigwigs possible? like tranq shot one |
| 20:09.43 | Kalman| | hypetech: http://ace.pastey.net/69963 |
| 20:10.03 | Funkeh` | liquiem: it already has it |
| 20:10.05 | Kalman| | PolyTimer doesn't have it defined anywhere I can see. |
| 20:10.09 | Funkeh` | liquiem: added ages ago |
| 20:10.39 | Funkeh` | liquiem: not in the main bigwigs its in bigwigs_commonauras |
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| 20:10.57 | liquiem | ah ok |
| 20:11.08 | liquiem | should be in main tbh |
| 20:11.10 | CIA-22 | 03antiarc * r41927 10Omen/OmenMenu.lua: Omen: Add a link to Skin Options under the Display menu. |
| 20:11.14 | ravagernl | Is betterfriends compatible to run with auldlangsyne? |
| 20:11.19 | ravagernl | http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info7314-BetterFriends.html |
| 20:11.20 | Gagorian | Antiarc|Work: Yeah, would be more logical. Also might consider having shortened threat the default |
| 20:11.25 | Peoii | So here's a question I've been asked by a friend of mine... Does BigWigs have a pvp module for BG timers? |
| 20:11.26 | Gagorian | It's harder to read large numbers |
| 20:11.29 | Antiarc|Work | Gagorian: Thought it was. Surprised it's not. |
| 20:11.56 | Antiarc|Work | Hm. ShortThreatNumbers = true for the default. |
| 20:11.59 | Jaxon | Peoii: BigWigs is entirely PvE |
| 20:12.03 | hypetech | Kalman|: ah, so ShowCandyBar is not part of the CandyBar API, that makes more sense, I was wondering where it came from |
| 20:12.06 | hypetech | Kalman|: thank you |
| 20:12.07 | Funkeh` | liquiem: its not a part of any boss so no |
| 20:12.15 | Funkeh` | tranq is |
| 20:12.22 | ravagernl | ~seen kemayo |
| 20:12.26 | purl | kemayo is currently on #wowi-lounge (4d 2h 28m 32s) #wowace (4d 2h 28m 32s). Has said a total of 10 messages. Is idling for 2h 4m 19s, last said: 'Dear sir, I wish to join your guild.'. |
| 20:12.33 | liquiem | point |
| 20:12.35 | Cryect | haha |
| 20:13.03 | ravagernl | Kemyao:Is betterfriends compatible to run with auldlangsyne? |
| 20:13.34 | CIA-22 | 03antiarc * r41928 10Omen/DefaultSkins.lua: Omen: Removed character-specific entries from the default skins. |
| 20:13.37 | ravagernl | s/Kemyao/Kemayo/ |
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| 20:14.03 | Kemayo | ravagernl: Dunno -- what does betterfriends do? |
| 20:14.17 | Kemayo | Oh, you linked to it further up. Hold on. |
| 20:14.58 | ravagernl | kemayo: yeah, It seems to hook into the friends list, was wondering if als will still work then, since I can't remember people without it |
| 20:15.12 | Saroz | vhaarr, ckknight: http://ace.pastey.net/69962 -- Fixes issue with banzai always enabling, even if unchecked under modules |
| 20:15.14 | ravagernl | s/if als/if it/ |
| 20:15.33 | ravagernl | Second typo lol |
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| 20:16.31 | Peoii | Ominous: ping |
| 20:16.48 | Ominous | peoii: yes |
| 20:16.54 | Peoii | Ominous: [2007/06/27 13:10:14-193-x1]: ClassTimer-1.0 r41910\ClassTimer.lua:264: AceConsole-2.0: args.Timers.args.Extras.args.Remove: "usage" must be a string |
| 20:17.20 | Ominous | argh, what did you try to do when that happened |
| 20:17.27 | Peoii | I logged in? |
| 20:17.33 | Kalman| | hypetech: NP. |
| 20:17.38 | Peoii | gives me a different error when I right click on the fubar, just a sec ;) |
| 20:17.39 | Pheredhel | ckknight: here? |
| 20:18.13 | Peoii | eh, it's the same thing, just worded differently. [2007/06/27 13:17:48-193-x2]: FuBarPlugin-2.0-40928:1083: Dewdrop-2.0: args.Timers.args.Extras.args.Remove: "usage" must be a string |
| 20:18.31 | Peoii | stacktrace leads back to the same ClassTimer line |
| 20:19.25 | Ominous | peoii: ill look in a sec |
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| 20:20.09 | kergoth`work | purl: kergoth? |
| 20:20.10 | purl | it has been said that kergoth is Chris Larson, an open source developer working for Geco, Inc in Phoenix, AZ. Core developer on OpenZaurus, OpenEmbedded/BitBake, and TSLib. Often the resident BOFH and SCM nazi, and often an ass. Newbies and the clueless beware. |
| 20:21.01 | kergoth`work | purl: no, kergoth is Chris Larson, a software engineer working for MontaVista in Phoenix, AZ. Core developer on OpenZaurus, OpenEmbedded/BitBake, and TSLib. Often the resident BOFH and SCM nazi, and often an ass. Newbies and the clueless beware. |
| 20:21.02 | purl | kergoth`work: okay |
| 20:21.11 | Kalman| | Got the job? |
| 20:21.12 | Kemayo | ravagernl: I'm not sure whether it'll work. :) |
| 20:21.26 | ravagernl | kemayo: then I will just test it out :) |
| 20:21.31 | Kemayo | ravagernl: I *think* it leaves enough intact that ALS would still work. But I can't say that for sure. |
| 20:25.12 | Kemayo | AuldLangSyne needs some manner of rewrite, anyway. |
| 20:25.29 | Pheredhel | ok, strange problem: if i load Threadlib, ParserLib seems to stop fireing events for my addo |
| 20:25.59 | Pheredhel | anybody an idea ? |
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| 20:27.07 | Pheredhel | as for what i see, my instance of aceaddon seems to be the only variable not declared locally |
| 20:27.14 | sag_ich_nicht | Pheredhel: parser was broken earlier |
| 20:27.17 | sag_ich_nicht | did you update recently? |
| 20:28.06 | Pheredhel | $Revision: 40447 $ is the version i use right now |
| 20:28.16 | Pheredhel | it works as long as threadlib is not loaded |
| 20:29.06 | Antiarc|Work | 40447 should work |
| 20:29.11 | Antiarc|Work | What's the version in ThreatLib? |
| 20:29.21 | Antiarc|Work | (If it's 41846 then you need to update it) |
| 20:29.38 | sag_ich_nicht | I'd still suggest updating parser as well ;O |
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| 20:30.50 | Pheredhel | $Revision: 41855 $ |
| 20:30.55 | Pheredhel | Threadlib |
| 20:31.05 | CIA-22 | 03totalpackage * r41929 10InFlight_Load/InFlight_Load.lua: |
| 20:31.05 | CIA-22 | InFlight_Load |
| 20:31.05 | CIA-22 | - it was fine the first time, hook correct function again |
| 20:31.33 | Antiarc|Work | Pheredhel: /dump AceLibrary("Parser-3.0"):GetLibraryVersion() |
| 20:32.46 | Pheredhel | ok there it reports 41846 |
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| 20:34.44 | Pheredhel | for parser |
| 20:35.00 | Pheredhel | i just updated, lets see if it works |
| 20:35.03 | Antiarc|Work | That's the problem =) |
| 20:35.49 | Pheredhel | else i will delete the parser standalone, as my embedded version is still the old one |
| 20:38.00 | Pheredhel | ok, with the latest update, it works ... |
| 20:38.02 | Pheredhel | thanks |
| 20:38.48 | Antiarc|Work | Pheredhel: What're you making? |
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| 20:39.11 | sag_ich_nicht | getting blizz to look into a bug report is kind of annoying -.- |
| 20:39.18 | Pheredhel | an addon that show who breaks crwod control effects |
| 20:39.50 | Pheredhel | I'm writing it as a fubar plugin right now |
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| 20:40.43 | ravagernl | Hmm, was wondering, can eepanels panels use RegisterUnitWatch, to show or hide eg when I obtain a target? |
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| 20:42.50 | ravagernl | Because I can't set a panel to a pitbull frame, since pitbull has this frame recycler. |
| 20:43.41 | Antiarc|Work | Pheredhel: Awesome. Lemme know when it's done. I had a guildmate asking for one. |
| 20:43.49 | Cryect | Summary report for recount for those curious http://img162.imageshack.us/img162/7194/summarybo1.jpg I'm not liking the arrangment of data at the top yet but curious for other data values I should be showing on the summary report (I guess maybe % of active time Longest idle time maybe) |
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| 20:44.16 | Pheredhel | hmm, the basic funtions i want to add, should be done in one or two days ... |
| 20:44.31 | Pheredhel | then i want to see if i can get svn acces here |
| 20:45.14 | hypetech | w00t. my mod is now configurable through obscure text commands yay! |
| 20:45.18 | hypetech | next step, pretty gui config |
| 20:45.28 | Antiarc|Work | hypetech: Add Waterfall. Done. |
| 20:45.29 | Pheredhel | gui config is easy |
| 20:45.43 | Pheredhel | hmm, ok, i added fubar |
| 20:45.44 | jme | i think what he meant to say was "Add waterfall, or die" |
| 20:46.09 | Cryect | Waterfall is awful when it comes to pretty GUI configs |
| 20:46.10 | hypetech | Antiarc|Work: how easy is that? |
| 20:46.25 | Cryect | well easy if you have a console command config |
| 20:46.37 | Antiarc|Work | hypetech: It takes about 3 lines of code. |
| 20:46.41 | hypetech | wow |
| 20:46.42 | Cryect | since you just pass the same table |
| 20:46.43 | Daemona | is there a /script to restart the graphic engine of wow? |
| 20:47.00 | hypetech | what is dewdrop? |
| 20:47.01 | Thorgard | Daemona, /scripte gfxRestart I think |
| 20:47.04 | Thorgard | err -e |
| 20:47.15 | Thorgard | Don't quote me on it. |
| 20:47.19 | Antiarc|Work | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:47.20 | Cryect | dewdrop is a dropdown list |
| 20:47.31 | hypetech | I'll play with waterfall |
| 20:47.57 | Antiarc|Work | hypetech: This is Omen's Waterfall usage: |
| 20:47.59 | Antiarc|Work | waterfall:Register("Omen", "aceOptions", options, "title", "Omen Configuration", "treeLevels", 5); |
| 20:48.02 | hypetech | so waterfall basically just works off of self.options? |
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| 20:48.10 | Antiarc|Work | then to open it: waterfall:Open("Omen") |
| 20:48.13 | hypetech | wow |
| 20:48.15 | Antiarc|Work | That's it. |
| 20:48.19 | hypetech | what is "aceOptions" |
| 20:48.19 | Antiarc|Work | And yes. |
| 20:48.25 | Antiarc|Work | Your AceOptions table |
| 20:48.25 | Cryect | his options table |
| 20:48.26 | Tuller | its evil :P |
| 20:48.27 | Antiarc|Work | (self.options likely) |
| 20:48.34 | hypetech | so what is options then? |
| 20:48.34 | hypetech | lol |
| 20:48.45 | Cryect | uh what did you do for console commands? |
| 20:49.12 | hypetech | self.options |
| 20:49.18 | Cryect | so use that |
| 20:49.28 | hypetech | right, but he had both in that line, just confused me |
| 20:49.37 | hypetech | .."aceOptions", options.. |
| 20:49.38 | Cryect | "aceOptions" means the type of table it is |
| 20:49.41 | Cryect | there is a couple types |
| 20:49.50 | Cryect | I forget the other type it supports |
| 20:49.57 | Cryect | its dewdrops main type I think |
| 20:50.44 | hypetech | so I would do ("PolyTimer", self.options, self.options...) ? |
| 20:50.48 | hypetech | what are the two different fields? |
| 20:50.51 | Cryect | no |
| 20:51.14 | Cryect | waterfall:Register("PolyTimer", "aceOptions", self.options, "title", "PolyTimer", "treeLevels", 5); |
| 20:51.19 | hypetech | oh |
| 20:51.21 | hypetech | alright then |
| 20:51.29 | Cryect | defines the type for the next arg basically |
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| 20:51.46 | Cryect | heh I'm being quite confusing at the moment >_> |
| 20:52.03 | stavmar_ | how do you get manufac snoop to actually work? |
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| 20:52.25 | hypetech | Cryect: ah, got it |
| 20:53.23 | Blime | what was the addon Cryect used to display http://img162.imageshack.us/img162/7194/summarybo1.jpg ? |
| 20:53.40 | Antiarc|Work | Recount, looks like |
| 20:54.01 | Blime | hmmm thanks |
| 20:54.40 | ravagernl | anyone know something for my problem? |
| 20:54.45 | hypetech | meh, what's all this embed.xml business? heh. right when I start to learn this stuff, you guys change standards :( |
| 20:55.39 | Antiarc|Work | Ahahahahah. http://www.upi.com/NewsTrack/Quirks/2007/06/26/antispeeding_ad_wags_fingers/3650/ |
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| 20:57.08 | Cryect | Its something in recount thats not in recount |
| 20:57.38 | sanari | which parser should i use for simplecombatlog? ParserLib or Parser 3.0? |
| 20:57.44 | Chompers | because young drivers have been desensitized by images in video games |
| 20:57.50 | Chompers | always with the video game bashing |
| 20:57.57 | trh_ | sanari: parser-3.0 |
| 20:58.02 | sanari | thanks |
| 20:58.40 | trh_ | sanari: mostly because most new addons use it, so sharing code with parser-3.0 is better than having 2 parsers running =) |
| 20:58.54 | sanari | cool |
| 20:59.03 | rophy | eh, afaik the current paser-3.0 compat mode will let 1.1 go |
| 20:59.16 | ravagernl | can anyone help me out a hand? I'm trying to create a solution for eepanels parent option so I can put a texture behind my pitbull targetframe, and I do not want to install DART for it just because it can hide textures for when certain units do not exist |
| 20:59.53 | ravagernl | maybe a small addon wich creates invisible dummy unitframes? |
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| 21:00.41 | Iceroth | hmm, help me out here, is there any raid encounter in TBC that actually does need FR? |
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| 21:01.46 | Enpeecee | rammparts |
| 21:02.01 | Peoii | Iceroth: Not in SSC/TK or lower. |
| 21:02.21 | Iceroth | hyjal? bt? |
| 21:02.28 | Peoii | Not sure, havn't done those events |
| 21:02.35 | Enpeecee | hyjal should be nature |
| 21:02.44 | Peoii | meh |
| 21:02.48 | Kalman| | Lock tank for Leo needs FR, doesn't he? That's the only thing I can think of. |
| 21:02.48 | Peoii | I doubt it honestly |
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| 21:02.57 | Enpeecee | well if it has a resist |
| 21:02.58 | Peoii | Oh true, locks do need FR for Leo |
| 21:03.15 | Kalman| | AFAIK nothing in Hyjal wants resist gear. |
| 21:03.33 | Iceroth | what's the point of heroic badge FR gear then? |
| 21:03.35 | Peoii | and ya need/want a lock tank for Illidan too afiak |
| 21:03.36 | CIA-22 | 03ominous * r41930 10ClassTimer/ClassTimer.lua: ClassTimer: oops fixed usage bug |
| 21:03.42 | Kalman| | Iceorth: Just in case! |
| 21:04.06 | Peoii | Iceroth: future... never question the future... Blizzard HATES fire mages, so they like building events where you not only need FR, but the mob is immune to fire dmg... |
| 21:04.07 | NightHawkAtWork | the same point of all the other craftable resist gear? :P |
| 21:04.29 | Enpeecee | the craftable resist gear is great for skillups at least |
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| 21:04.38 | Peoii | NightHawkAtWork: Well, arcane resist is useful in TK, NR and FrR is useful in SSC... |
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| 21:04.54 | Peoii | for tanks atleast. |
| 21:05.18 | hypetech | Antiarc|Work: can I call my waterfall gui from a command line option like "/pt config"? or do I need to do something outside of self.options so that the waterfall will be registered correctly? |
| 21:05.28 | Nyri | anyone know how much haste rating is needed for 1% more attack/casting speed? |
| 21:05.30 | NightHawkAtWork | Peoii: exactly, but the AR was there before TK was. not the other way around :P |
| 21:06.07 | ravagernl | Oh and kemayo: ALS not compatible with betterfriends as I feared :( |
| 21:07.40 | Adirelle | simpleselfrebuff still need testing, but I may actually get rid of smartbuff |
| 21:07.56 | kergoth` | simpleselfrebuff? |
| 21:08.11 | Adirelle | new addon |
| 21:08.31 | Adirelle | the name is pretty self-explicit I hope |
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| 21:09.36 | ravagernl | ckknight: my tooltip gets stuck on my pet when I mouse over my pets frame, I'm using cowtip and pitbull |
| 21:09.38 | Adirelle | http://www.wowace.com/wiki/SimpleSelfRebuff |
| 21:09.39 | sanari | do i need gratuitylib for tinytip, or is that redundant? |
| 21:09.51 | hypetech | Antiarc|Work: :( |
| 21:10.02 | Adirelle | sanari: they achieve differents purposes |
| 21:10.17 | sanari | ah ok, thanks - what is gratuitylib for? |
| 21:10.20 | ravagernl | sanari: tinytip has never even used the ace2 libraries, so you do not need anything for it |
| 21:10.27 | Adirelle | sanari: gratuitylib is a library used by other addons, tinytip is a addon on its own |
| 21:11.08 | kergoth` | Adirelle: nice |
| 21:11.14 | Antiarc|Work | hypetech: Sure, set up a config option in your aceoptions table that invokes waterfall:Open |
| 21:11.17 | sanari | heh, that much i understood, i was wondering how i could find which addons use that library |
| 21:11.29 | Antiarc|Work | So /pt config would just be an exec handler |
| 21:12.12 | Adirelle | kergoth`: still need testing and more buff data, I worked on a private branch of Rebuff long time ago |
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| 21:12.29 | Adirelle | but Rebuff was a buff-everyone addon |
| 21:12.33 | hypetech | Antiarc|Work: where then would I put the waterfall:Register? before my options table altogether? |
| 21:12.49 | Antiarc|Work | After you declare the table |
| 21:12.54 | Antiarc|Work | Since you have to pass the table to it ;) |
| 21:13.16 | trh_ | gonna check simpleselfrebuff now :) |
| 21:13.17 | Adirelle | kergoth`you may get disappointed if you don't play an hunter :p |
| 21:13.47 | Adirelle | I have yet to feed in other class buffs |
| 21:13.53 | trh_ | Adirelle: does it try to rebuff if you get trueshot aura from another hunter? =) |
| 21:13.59 | Adirelle | trh_: shouldn't |
| 21:14.08 | Antiarc|Work | The Internet: Where the men are men, the women are men, and the children are FBI. |
| 21:14.10 | trh_ | Adirelle: then it's already > smartbuff =) |
| 21:14.39 | Adirelle | hrm... already discovered a bug |
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| 21:14.47 | kergoth` | Adirelle: my main is a rogue, but i havent played him in weeks, i've been leveling my hunter, coincidentally :) |
| 21:15.19 | Fisker- | http://img.4chan.org/b/src/1182978240437.jpg |
| 21:15.22 | jme | kergoth`: i'm about the opposite |
| 21:15.25 | deltron | I play too much on my shaman |
| 21:15.30 | hypetech | Antiarc|Work: that's what I thought. I tried that though and then when it got to the spot in the table, it said it was trying to call a waterfall that was not yet registered. My option tried to call it automatically though, so i don't think I'm using the option correctly |
| 21:15.46 | jme | apparently he didn't like that |
| 21:15.47 | ravagernl | plenty of people online, I will ask again: I'm trying to create a solution for eepanels parent option so I can put a texture behind my pitbull targetframe, and I do not want to install DART for it just because it can hide textures for when certain units do not exist. maybe a small addon wich creates invisible dummy unitframes? |
| 21:15.50 | Antiarc|Work | Pasted some code please? |
| 21:15.52 | Antiarc|Work | Pastey* |
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| 21:16.40 | Adirelle | is any event fired when you mount/unmounted from your own mount or from a taxi ? |
| 21:16.47 | Antiarc|Work | I suspect you have something like func = waterfall:Open("Whatever") |
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| 21:16.57 | Antiarc|Work | You need func = function() waterfall:Open("Whatever") end |
| 21:17.05 | Antiarc|Work | Your own mount would be an aura change. |
| 21:17.08 | Antiarc|Work | Dunno about Taxi. |
| 21:17.11 | pastamancer | Adirelle: mount/unmount is UNIT_AURA, taxi is something special |
| 21:17.27 | Fisker- | night |
| 21:17.29 | Adirelle | taxi : player_control_gained/lost ? |
| 21:17.48 | trh_ | Adirelle: specialevents has some events for it |
| 21:17.52 | pastamancer | taxi is actually in the name of the event I believe |
| 21:18.05 | hypetech | Antiarc|Work: sure, here's the self.options and the waterfall registration portion http://www.pastey.net/69966 |
| 21:18.23 | hypetech | Antiarc|Work: oh |
| 21:18.39 | Dotted | Antiarc|Work http://www-en.curse-gaming.com/downloads/details/4204/#comments |
| 21:19.16 | trh_ | Adirelle: tries to permanently rebuff trushot aura |
| 21:19.27 | Adirelle | lol |
| 21:19.29 | trh_ | Adirelle: does it actually ;) |
| 21:19.32 | Antiarc|Work | hypetech: http://www.pastey.net/69967 |
| 21:19.36 | trh_ | Adirelle: not only tries ;) |
| 21:19.40 | Adirelle | it does |
| 21:19.42 | Adirelle | wait a sec |
| 21:19.49 | Adirelle | it's barely alpha |
| 21:21.09 | Gagorian | ckknight: HALP |
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| 21:21.22 | pastamancer | Adirelle: oh, wowwiki says player_control_lost/gained I'd trust that |
| 21:21.36 | Adirelle | pastamancer: just added it to check :p |
| 21:21.38 | [Liquidor] | http://i178.photobucket.com/albums/w268/DArkul/testUI5clean.jpg -- Anyone got an idea of how the bottombar frame is created? |
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| 21:22.04 | Enpeecee | could be eepanels or dart |
| 21:22.09 | Enpeecee | just a texture |
| 21:22.18 | abyssichate | [Ammo]: did you instead notice any discrepancy between SWS and Violation meters? We've resetted those at the same time just before the pull - one guy that was 5th on SWS meters was 13th on my Violation |
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| 21:23.45 | [Liquidor] | Enpeecee, crap cause I was hoping to use something alike for my compilation :/ |
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| 21:25.40 | Antiarc|Work | Arrrrrgh. |
| 21:25.44 | Antiarc|Work | Kenco. Seriously. What. |
| 21:25.55 | Antiarc|Work | I try to help you and you ignore me and call me stupid. |
| 21:25.59 | Kalman| | I need to just bookmark that comments thread. |
| 21:26.00 | Antiarc|Work | Wow. |
| 21:26.04 | Antiarc|Work | http://www-en.curse-gaming.com/downloads/details/4204/#comment_272978 |
| 21:26.16 | Enpeecee | take a look at http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info6311-MazzleUI.html liquidor |
| 21:26.20 | trh_ | Antiarc|Work: tbh, did you expect anything different? |
| 21:26.26 | phyber | health/power bars broken in CowTip :o |
| 21:26.55 | Antiarc|Work | No, I really didn't. |
| 21:26.55 | phyber | [2007/06/27 21:11:16-2277-x101]: CowTip-r41858\HealthBar\HealthBar.lua:159: attempt to index upvalue 'healthBar' (a nil value) |
| 21:27.01 | Antiarc|Work | I was hoping. |
| 21:27.04 | Antiarc|Work | But I didn't expect different. |
| 21:27.26 | [Liquidor] | Enpeecee, what for? |
| 21:27.39 | Enpeecee | its got a similar unitframe setup |
| 21:27.52 | Gagorian | Antiarc|Work: Send a string instead of number and KTM will error |
| 21:28.01 | Gagorian | = WIN! |
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| 21:28.05 | trh_ | awesome ^^ |
| 21:28.22 | [Liquidor] | Enpeecee, I wanted the bottombar texture: http://i178.photobucket.com/albums/w268/DArkul/testUI5clean.jpg |
| 21:28.23 | Antiarc|Work | I don't want to punish users for Kenco's hardheadedness. |
| 21:28.29 | [Liquidor] | Not UF =) |
| 21:28.46 | Enpeecee | you mean the gryphons? |
| 21:28.46 | trh_ | Antiarc|Work: in the end you're doing them a favor, because they think "ktm sucks" and choose omen |
| 21:29.13 | [Liquidor] | Enpeecee, ye. A mini version of the blizzard frame |
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| 21:29.43 | Enpeecee | um.. just move and resize the blizzard ones |
| 21:30.18 | [Liquidor] | Dunno, how many frames is the bottomframe devided into? |
| 21:30.26 | Enpeecee | 2 |
| 21:30.32 | Enpeecee | the buttons and frame |
| 21:30.33 | [Liquidor] | gryphons I know at least are seperated, but don't know the rest. |
| 21:30.43 | Daemona | http://ace.pastey.net/69969 |
| 21:30.46 | Daemona | ora2 fehler |
| 21:31.02 | Antiarc|Work | I'm not going to throw KTM errors from Threat. |
| 21:31.22 | [dRaCo] | It'd be fun though |
| 21:31.25 | [Liquidor] | So uhm, hide entire bottombar frame and show gryphons + buttonframes, think that's it? |
| 21:31.38 | [dRaCo] | wtb nuke ktm button |
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| 21:32.12 | Enpeecee | and then get cycircled and youll be exactly the same |
| 21:32.14 | Arrowmaster` | does the new ktm really update itself from other ktm users for new versions? |
| 21:32.33 | trh_ | as far as i have looked into the code, it updates it's boss table |
| 21:32.56 | trh_ | with values for boss' special strike threat reduction and such stuff =) |
| 21:33.00 | Antiarc|Work | Arrowmaster: No, it's going to allow for remote lua transmission and execution for boss module stuff |
| 21:33.12 | Arrowmaster | ah ok |
| 21:33.54 | Daemona | does that basically mean, you could run with 1 new version and everyone would run newest version? interesting concept. |
| 21:34.23 | Antiarc|Work | It also means that I can remotely hardlock your client any time I want. |
| 21:34.40 | trh_ | Daemona: in theory yes, but as network input shouldn't be trusted it's bad |
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| 21:35.03 | trh_ | Daemona: he built in some checks, but if i pretend the be the newest ktm and send fake boss tables it'd be fun i guess :) |
| 21:35.23 | trh_ | Antiarc|Work: hardlocking works? recursive tables or? |
| 21:35.40 | stavmar_ | Does anyone have a suggestion for a mod that replaces TradeskillInfo, i really want a mod to tell me what a white item could be used for in other porfessions other than my own? |
| 21:36.01 | rubik | Mendeleev does that, no? |
| 21:36.06 | [Liquidor] | stavmar_, there's one on Curse-gaming |
| 21:36.26 | rubik | shows you what items are used in, i mean |
| 21:36.26 | [Liquidor] | on top100 |
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| 21:36.40 | Antiarc|Work | trh_: while true do end |
| 21:36.42 | stavmar_ | any idea on the anme? |
| 21:36.47 | stavmar_ | name* |
| 21:36.57 | [Liquidor] | stavmar_, dude |
| 21:37.00 | [Liquidor] | check top100 |
| 21:37.01 | Moltarain | is using tradeskilinfo a bad idea or what? |
| 21:37.05 | [Liquidor] | there's only 1x TradeSkill addon |
| 21:37.34 | [Liquidor] | or files.wowace.com and search the page |
| 21:37.36 | trh_ | Antiarc|Work: so there's real code in the table that gets executed? |
| 21:37.37 | stavmar_ | he stopped updating it so i shift clicked an item in chat that wsa from 2.1.0 and not 2.1.2 and poof disconnected? |
| 21:38.01 | trh_ | Antiarc|Work: i thought his serializing/deserializing exists if it's not a table |
| 21:38.07 | trh_ | Antiarc|Work: exits |
| 21:38.09 | [Liquidor] | you can't link items you haven't seen on the server thhe week you are in |
| 21:38.11 | stavmar_ | I am trying to tell you that Tradeskill Info is no longer being updated at teh moment |
| 21:38.20 | Antiarc|Work | trh_: it loadstrings data from remote clients to find if it's a table or not. |
| 21:38.26 | [Liquidor] | stavmar_ you can't link items you haven't seen on the server thhe week you are in |
| 21:38.28 | Antiarc|Work | Inject an infinite loop into that data and boom. |
| 21:38.55 | trh_ | Antiarc|Work: ouch |
| 21:39.20 | CIA-22 | 03adirelle * r41931 10SimpleSelfRebuff/ (SimpleSelfRebuff.lua SimpleSelfRebuff.toc embeds.xml): |
| 21:39.20 | CIA-22 | SimpleSelfRebuff: |
| 21:39.20 | CIA-22 | - tightnened (dis)activation triggers, |
| 21:39.20 | CIA-22 | - fubar plugin. |
| 21:39.35 | stavmar_ | [Liquidor]: well i had seen this enchant before but the mats to make it had changed since the last patch, if the mod would be updated there would be no issues but it does not have teh latest recipies in them |
| 21:40.06 | Antiarc|Work | trh_: And the worst thing of all is that since it hardlocks the client, you'll have to force quit |
| 21:40.14 | Antiarc|Work | Which means that you have no way of finding who sent you the loop bomb. |
| 21:40.16 | Adirelle | trh_: you may want to try last revision, I updated something that *may* prevents rebuff trueshot aura |
| 21:41.25 | trh_ | Antiarc|Work: i'm guessing kenco wrote mambo ;) |
| 21:41.36 | Antiarc|Work | What's mambo? |
| 21:41.40 | Enpeecee | how do you have a table to be sent but not load it yourself |
| 21:41.46 | hypetech | Antiarc|Work: "func" isn't a valid type :( |
| 21:41.52 | Antiarc|Work | Try exec |
| 21:41.53 | trh_ | Antiarc|Work: a cms, basically exploitable since ever remotely |
| 21:41.54 | Antiarc|Work | Sorry. |
| 21:41.57 | Enpeecee | change the loading of ktm? |
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| 21:42.37 | hypetech | Antiarc|Work: args.config: "type" must either be "range", "text", "group", "toggle", "execute", "color", or "header". |
| 21:42.54 | Antiarc|Work | Enpeecee: Yeah, easily. |
| 21:42.57 | Antiarc|Work | execute |
| 21:43.00 | mikma | Antiarc|Work: yohoo |
| 21:43.05 | Antiarc|Work | Yo |
| 21:43.07 | mikma | Antiarc|Work: "Antiarc, just send your threat library revision number instead. anything >= 100 for versionresponce is accepted. This isn't blocking anything except version checks." |
| 21:43.19 | Antiarc|Work | mikma: Already replied, if you saw. |
| 21:43.52 | trh_ | Adirelle: uh.. i cancelled my aspect of the hawk + trueshot aura and it wont rebuff it now =) |
| 21:44.05 | Ominous | Antiarc|work: couldnt you make his changes not work be repeditly changing the AddonChannel prefix? |
| 21:44.18 | mikma | Antiarc|Work: his reply was newest on my screen :P |
| 21:44.34 | Adirelle | trh_: did you set them up ? |
| 21:44.35 | Antiarc|Work | Ominous: Yes, but that's not backwards-compatible with other versions of Threat. |
| 21:44.52 | trh_ | Adirelle: sure, any function i could call to see if maybe the scroll up/down thing is broken? |
| 21:45.00 | trh_ | Adirelle: function to buff manually =) |
| 21:45.00 | hypetech | Antiarc|Work: wow, waterfall FTW |
| 21:45.02 | Ominous | Antiarc|Work, damn new there would be a catch, |
| 21:45.05 | hypetech | Antiarc|Work: thanks man :) |
| 21:45.11 | Antiarc|Work | No prob, hypetech :) |
| 21:45.22 | Adirelle | trh_: you may want to enable debugging |
| 21:45.29 | Adirelle | SimpleSelfRebuff:SetDebugging(true) |
| 21:45.39 | Adirelle | and try SimpleSelfRebuff:CheckRebuff() |
| 21:46.32 | mikma | way |
| 21:46.33 | Adirelle | btw, if you have the fubar plugin, you should see what buffs SSR considers to be ok (green), overidden (orange) or missing (red) |
| 21:46.34 | hypetech | what's with this built in donate feature? :p |
| 21:46.35 | trh_ | Adirelle: it said missing trueshot aura, binding mousewheel to trueshot aura and on the next mousewheel action it buffed trueshot aura... and on the next mouswheel action again ;) |
| 21:46.53 | Adirelle | trh_: it never unbind it ? |
| 21:46.53 | trh_ | Adirelle: the aspect is missing too, but it didn't said anything about it |
| 21:47.04 | trh_ | Adirelle: always tells missing trueshot aura |
| 21:47.04 | sag_ich_nicht | wut |
| 21:47.07 | sag_ich_nicht | new mummy found |
| 21:47.10 | trh_ | Adirelle: (that CheckRebuff) |
| 21:47.16 | trh_ | Adirelle: without binding it new |
| 21:47.32 | liquiem | newest ora2 fixed yet? (roster maintank set thing) |
| 21:47.34 | trh_ | Adirelle: probably because it is still bound to mousewheel |
| 21:47.37 | Adirelle | trh: r41931 ? |
| 21:47.54 | trh_ | Adirelle: yep |
| 21:48.03 | kenlyric | i'm here late. |
| 21:48.09 | kenlyric | what mod are we talking about with mousewheel buffs? |
| 21:48.20 | trh_ | kenlyric: simpleselfrebuff |
| 21:48.32 | kenlyric | drool |
| 21:48.35 | deltron | that's like autobuff |
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| 21:48.44 | deltron | back when blizz made it not auto |
| 21:48.52 | deltron | you'd buff with mousewheel |
| 21:49.00 | kenlyric | it's like selfbuff, but hopefully with 90% of the options I don't need :) |
| 21:49.08 | kenlyric | or yeah, exactly like autobuff :) |
| 21:49.12 | deltron | :) |
| 21:49.16 | Gagorian | Cryect: Any reason why Recount settins are reset on zoning |
| 21:49.17 | Gagorian | ? |
| 21:49.22 | deltron | autobuff was pretty funny |
| 21:49.29 | Adirelle | it's early, early alpha for now, ask trh_ |
| 21:49.31 | kenlyric | I am not capable of having inner fire without a buffing mod. |
| 21:49.40 | phyber | deltron: before that, you'd just get buffed. |
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| 21:49.41 | trh_ | it's very alpha ^^ |
| 21:49.52 | Adirelle | trh_: can't get what's fucked |
| 21:49.59 | deltron | because after they made my racial activated, berzerking would go off every 3 minutes lol |
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| 21:50.13 | jme | does distracting shot generate more threat than a arcane shot? |
| 21:50.21 | trh_ | Adirelle: i'm looking into the source =) |
| 21:50.24 | jme | for the sake of pulling/trapping |
| 21:50.32 | kenlyric | well, that people with actualy lua skills are working on it is enough for me. I was mostly motivated to steal the code from smartbuff. |
| 21:50.32 | Adirelle | trh_: which locale anyway ? |
| 21:50.33 | hyperChipmunk | jme: usually not |
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| 21:50.37 | trh_ | Adirelle: enGB |
| 21:50.47 | art3mis | yeah smartbuff has mousewheel buffing |
| 21:50.53 | jme | hyperChipmunk: ok, just curious, cause i've always used an arcane shot. |
| 21:51.02 | deltron | I should pick that up |
| 21:51.07 | deltron | I'm lazy with my priest |
| 21:51.10 | Adirelle | jme: actually distracting shot generates a fixed amount |
| 21:51.12 | deltron | because I forget to buff |
| 21:51.30 | Adirelle | jme: around 600 if I remember |
| 21:51.36 | kenlyric | if nothing else, it's great for turning on your tracking after you're dead. |
| 21:51.38 | Adirelle | (but I maybe wrong) |
| 21:51.52 | hyperChipmunk | distracting shot at 70 is like 1.1k |
| 21:51.52 | deltron | yeah |
| 21:51.52 | jme | Adirelle: ah |
| 21:52.05 | deltron | I am free of a gathering profession on my main |
| 21:52.07 | art3mis | heh smartbuff is great |
| 21:52.37 | hyperChipmunk | my mistake, 900 at 70 |
| 21:52.39 | Adirelle | 1,1k... I was wrong, but it's far better than AS then (btw I'm always using it for trapping) |
| 21:52.42 | art3mis | lets you pick who gets what use group buffs if a threshold is met(user config) and best of all its got a little window for what eprson.group is missing and a single button to scroll through and do it all |
| 21:52.47 | kenlyric | it has the most obtuse options screen I've ever seen. I gave up try9ing to make sense of getting group buffs to work long ago :) |
| 21:52.53 | hyperChipmunk | still better than arcane though |
| 21:52.54 | art3mis | laugh |
| 21:52.59 | jme | interesting |
| 21:53.01 | art3mis | yeah the menu is a tad "odd" |
| 21:53.20 | art3mis | basically you pick the "profile" you wanna use |
| 21:53.20 | kenlyric | and, I'm not so lazy that I can't give raid buffs properly :) |
| 21:53.27 | kenlyric | it's just self buffs that I suck at. |
| 21:53.28 | art3mis | tick the spells that it auto finds |
| 21:53.44 | kenlyric | especially back when inner fire was 3 minutes long... |
| 21:53.53 | art3mis | and for group you move the slider so that if 2 or more are missing it itll buff group |
| 21:54.02 | art3mis | tada done! |
| 21:54.04 | Adirelle | trh_: check the content of SimpleSelfRebuff.actualBuffNames |
| 21:54.10 | art3mis | but yeah i mainly used it for self buff ;P |
| 21:54.20 | art3mis | cuz i always forget that i have inner fire |
| 21:54.24 | art3mis | and touch of wekness |
| 21:54.28 | art3mis | n stuff |
| 21:54.36 | trh_ | Adirelle: i'm restarting my wow client first, maybe it's some library upgrading stuff that went wrong |
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| 21:54.42 | art3mis | hell im lucky if i rememebr to heal myself while soloing |
| 21:54.50 | Adirelle | art3mis: and group buff is really, really tricky to handle |
| 21:55.01 | Adirelle | with LoS, range, blessings to handle |
| 21:55.07 | jme | i forget to drink when i'm motegrinding until i'm completely oom in the middle of a fight |
| 21:55.13 | art3mis | oh it does all thsoe checks too |
| 21:55.17 | Adirelle | spelles that override other one |
| 21:55.23 | Adirelle | I know |
| 21:55.24 | art3mis | if it finds people outta range or los it wont cast the group |
| 21:55.30 | art3mis | its just a great program |
| 21:55.37 | jme | Nudge is a great addon, btw |
| 21:55.38 | Adirelle | and as an hunter, it only have 3 *self* buff... |
| 21:55.52 | art3mis | the menu leaves a bit to be desired and i REALLY hate forgetting to change the "change profile on party/raid" |
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| 21:56.31 | Pheredhel | anyone good at creating icons for fubar ? |
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| 21:56.50 | trh_ | Adirelle: empty list |
| 21:56.53 | Antiarc|Work | Sure, just created a 32x32 PNG and run it through BLP2PNG :) |
| 21:57.21 | Adirelle | brb |
| 21:57.27 | art3mis | which explains why all of anti's are carbears and penii ;P |
| 21:57.46 | Antiarc|Work | wait, what? |
| 21:57.46 | art3mis | ive seen the screen shots!! |
| 21:57.48 | Pheredhel | the problem is I suck at cerating icons and so on , and I need one ;) |
| 21:58.02 | Antiarc|Work | Pheredhel: I'd just use the Shackle Undead icon or something |
| 21:58.07 | art3mis | plagarism and theft are you new friends then phere ;P |
| 21:58.08 | Antiarc|Work | Or Polymorph |
| 21:58.26 | Pheredhel | hmm, ok, polymorph |
| 21:58.56 | Cryect | Using wow icons is normally best if you suck like most us at actual art :-p |
| 21:59.22 | Pheredhel | ok, I'll see how to use it |
| 22:01.30 | Daemona | Antiarc|Work ? i am just experiencing a "aggro stuck on a tank" |
| 22:01.40 | Daemona | any data you want me to dump beside a screenshot? |
| 22:01.41 | Antiarc|Work | Screenshot please! |
| 22:01.45 | Antiarc|Work | Uh...yeah |
| 22:01.56 | Antiarc|Work | Party revisions, and /run AceLibrary("Threat-1.0"):DumpThreatTable() |
| 22:02.19 | Adirelle | back |
| 22:02.33 | trh_ | Adirelle: if i disable the trueshot aura buffing it always rebuffs find minerals |
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| 22:02.46 | Adirelle | trh_: it never finds any buff I guess |
| 22:02.57 | Adirelle | they are always red in the tooltip ? |
| 22:02.57 | hypetech | well PolyTimer is fully fuctional now. Only additions will be pain in the ass daydreams :) I'm hoping to add the ability to read and track other mage's polymorphs within your raid, the only problem with that will be that if 2 mages are sheeping targets with the same name, there's no way to tell the difference :( |
| 22:03.02 | trh_ | Adirelle: yep |
| 22:03.09 | trh_ | Adirelle: any function i could add some debug output? |
| 22:03.09 | Daemona | damn now attumens horse died before i could dump the threat table Antiarc|Work :(( |
| 22:03.16 | Antiarc|Work | :( |
| 22:03.28 | Antiarc|Work | Daemona: By "stuck threat" you mean that his threat wasn't moving? |
| 22:03.33 | Adirelle | ScanPlayerAuras |
| 22:03.43 | Daemona | yeah |
| 22:03.51 | Adirelle | and you can try to PrintLiterals(actualBuffNames) |
| 22:04.06 | Antiarc|Work | Ok. Hrm. |
| 22:04.09 | Adirelle | other that than, it find all aspects and trackings ? |
| 22:04.10 | Antiarc|Work | If it happens again dump the threat table |
| 22:04.11 | Daemona | got dcc or want me to upload somewhere? |
| 22:04.20 | Antiarc|Work | I need to know if there's a discrepancy between the internal table and the display |
| 22:04.25 | Antiarc|Work | Upload or email please |
| 22:04.27 | Antiarc|Work | cheald at gmail |
| 22:04.28 | Daemona | kk |
| 22:04.48 | trh_ | Adirelle: i can select them all in the configuration |
| 22:05.03 | Adirelle | trh_: so it find them in the spellbook |
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| 22:05.11 | trh_ | Adirelle: yes, even find herbs/minerals |
| 22:05.21 | Adirelle | it's weird it can't find them when scanning auras |
| 22:05.38 | Adirelle | I'll put back debugging in scanplayerauras and commit |
| 22:05.47 | trh_ | Adirelle: i think it doesn't even call the function |
| 22:06.22 | Adirelle | grmpf |
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| 22:06.55 | trh_ | Adirelle: added a buffName output, gets the correct names |
| 22:07.11 | trh_ | Adirelle: and they turned green in the fubar plugin after calling the function manually |
| 22:07.18 | Adirelle | ok |
| 22:07.33 | Adirelle | now... why the hell it doesn't call it :/ |
| 22:07.50 | Daemona | uploading attachments atm Antiarc|Work |
| 22:07.52 | Adirelle | btw... why does it here ? |
| 22:08.01 | Pheredhel | CCBreaker:SetIcon("Interface\Icons\Spell_Nature_Polymorph.blp") hmm, i do it like this, and it still uses the old tga in the directory |
| 22:08.10 | Pheredhel | anything wrong with it? |
| 22:08.14 | CIA-22 | 03pastamancer * r41932 10Grid/ (GridLayoutLayouts.lua GridLocale-enUS.lua): |
| 22:08.14 | CIA-22 | Grid: |
| 22:08.14 | CIA-22 | Layouts - Added 'By group 25 w/tanks' which uses the MT/MA info in the blizzard raid window. |
| 22:08.40 | Antiarc|Work | Thanks, Daemona |
| 22:08.46 | trh_ | Adirelle: i'm adding some debug output to see =) |
| 22:09.20 | Antiarc|Work | Got it, thanks :) |
| 22:09.32 | Adirelle | I have a clue... |
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| 22:11.43 | trh_ | Adirelle: CheckActivation gets called, but the CheckRebuffs doesn't |
| 22:11.44 | ravagernl | ckknight:ping |
| 22:11.49 | Antiarc|Work | Daemona: That's actually extremely helpful |
| 22:11.51 | Antiarc|Work | Thank you |
| 22:12.07 | Adirelle | trh_: checkrebuff or scanplayerauras ? |
| 22:12.08 | Antiarc|Work | The \001\001\001 entry is really suspicious |
| 22:12.46 | trh_ | Adirelle: scanplayerauras, checking checkrebuff now |
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| 22:13.46 | Adirelle | trh_: the more strange is that everything works fine here :/ |
| 22:13.48 | Daemona | well now we added a skeletal waiter and the druid had ZERO threat *scratch* though he obviously anked |
| 22:13.49 | Daemona | tanked |
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| 22:14.01 | trh_ | Adirelle: checkrebuff doesn't get called either |
| 22:14.18 | Adirelle | trh_: I'm suspecting you acevent to being fucked up :/ |
| 22:14.28 | Adirelle | they should be called on timer |
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| 22:15.48 | trh_ | Adirelle: shouldActivate is always false and active is nil |
| 22:15.49 | Azurewrath | pastamancer: there are people out there who use the Blizz MT Stuff? Scary... |
| 22:16.14 | Antiarc|Work | Daemona: Yeah. I think that bogus entry is causing problems. |
| 22:16.26 | pastamancer | Azurewrath: I'm not going to make Grid depend on ora or ctra |
| 22:16.27 | Antiarc|Work | Have the druid /rl to fix it - I can at least add asserts to track it down now. |
| 22:16.32 | Antiarc|Work | Top-notch work :D |
| 22:16.42 | CIA-22 | 03adirelle * r41933 10SimpleSelfRebuff/SimpleSelfRebuff.lua: |
| 22:16.42 | CIA-22 | SimpleSelfRebuff: |
| 22:16.42 | CIA-22 | - put back some debug statments, |
| 22:16.42 | CIA-22 | - fixed a possible issue with PLAYER_AURAS_CHANGED handling, |
| 22:16.42 | CIA-22 | - should better handle trackings. |
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| 22:16.43 | pastamancer | Azurewrath: and either of those could set the blizzard mt/ma flags |
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| 22:17.32 | trh_ | Adirelle: i think the RegisterEvents in CheckActivation never gets called as none of the if else construct ever evaluates to true |
| 22:17.59 | trh_ | Adirelle: er.. schedule's |
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| 22:18.08 | Adirelle | trh_: er... are you in a city ? |
| 22:18.16 | trh_ | Adirelle: yep =) |
| 22:18.21 | Adirelle | loool |
| 22:18.29 | Adirelle | just get out |
| 22:18.37 | Adirelle | it is *designed* to shut up in cities |
| 22:18.59 | trh_ | Adirelle: lol.. didn't thought of that because the first version buffed trueshot aura =) |
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| 22:19.47 | trh_ | Adirelle: ok.. it works fine outside, but you should really add a option to let it buff in cities =) |
| 22:19.53 | Azurewrath | pastamancer: hehe, i don't care.. i'm happy with the oRA2 MT Frames.. i just wondered.. never heard about anyone raiding without ctra or ora |
| 22:20.05 | pastamancer | Azurewrath: I don't use either |
| 22:20.12 | trh_ | Adirelle: paladins might even want that for mountspeed or sth =) |
| 22:20.17 | Adirelle | erm... or add some hint that it is actually disabled bacause... |
| 22:20.29 | Adirelle | right... |
| 22:20.50 | Hjalte | Antiarc|Work, just saw you changed TPS in Omen a few minutes ago (You scared me to death while i was tanking) - How come? |
| 22:20.50 | Adirelle | but can they cast the aura while mounted ? |
| 22:20.56 | trh_ | Adirelle: i don't know =) |
| 22:21.12 | trh_ | Adirelle: but for tracking it might be useful too :) |
| 22:21.20 | Antiarc|Work | Hjalte: Working on putting it into Threat proper to remove duplicate work. Current implementation is broken though. |
| 22:21.30 | trh_ | Adirelle: like north of shattrath where you are basically still in the city and could see some nodes |
| 22:21.32 | Antiarc|Work | Should be faster and lighter - especially for multiple clients - when I'm done with it. |
| 22:21.41 | Adirelle | well... generally, while mounted, I have the time to setup my buffs ... |
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| 22:22.18 | Moltarain | Azurewrath: i dont use any of those =) |
| 22:22.26 | Adirelle | but well. I may put an option |
| 22:22.40 | Adirelle | that won't be so expensive |
| 22:22.51 | Hjalte | Antiarc|Work, how can it be much lower than the 'old' TPS - I thought threat was consistent values? |
| 22:22.56 | Moltarain | i use BunchOfBars & sRaidFrames. that way i have minimall lag |
| 22:23.08 | Antiarc|Work | Hjalte: Because I changed the calculation algorithm =) |
| 22:23.10 | Adirelle | brb, gonna do some bombing run |
| 22:23.20 | Antiarc|Work | I'm working on slimming it down and slimmed it down a bit too much it seems. |
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| 22:23.59 | Hjalte | Antiarc|Work, As long as i am able to figure out when I'm a good tank and when I need to work harder, you can have the numbers show whatever you want. |
| 22:24.09 | Antiarc|Work | Heheh |
| 22:24.14 | Antiarc|Work | Well, I hope to have it fixed tonight |
| 22:24.15 | Daemona | uh Antiarc|Work on quickly changing targets it still happens that the aggro display builds up to down and not down to up and then switching quickly |
| 22:24.32 | Antiarc|Work | Daemona: Yeah, noticed that yesterday. Not sure why but it's also on the lsit. |
| 22:24.34 | Antiarc|Work | list* |
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| 22:25.34 | hypetech | Antiarc|Work: so what kind of stanardization and whatnot do I have to do to get my sheep mod in the SVN? |
| 22:25.53 | Antiarc|Work | hypetech: Just request an SVN account, I guess |
| 22:26.11 | trh_ | and it should use ace2 ;) |
| 22:26.27 | hypetech | trh_: it does :) |
| 22:26.56 | Antiarc|Work | Has anyone using an enUS client noticed the "client stall" thing? |
| 22:27.06 | cervanis | define stall? |
| 22:27.14 | Antiarc|Work | Stop getting threat numbers for a remote client. |
| 22:27.21 | Antiarc|Work | Daemona: Do you know what locale the druid uses? |
| 22:27.27 | CIA-22 | 03rabbit * r41934 10BananaDKP/BananaDKP.lua: BananaDKP: Bugfix. |
| 22:27.32 | cervanis | i dont get tps from people... but.. i still get threat numbers |
| 22:27.39 | Antiarc|Work | TPS is broken ;) |
| 22:27.42 | trh_ | Antiarc|Work: few days ago in karazhan it happened to me, the origin user used deDE |
| 22:27.43 | cervanis | then thats why :) |
| 22:27.43 | cervanis | hehe |
| 22:27.51 | Antiarc|Work | trh_: And you use enUS? |
| 22:27.54 | trh_ | Antiarc|Work: enGB |
| 22:27.57 | Antiarc|Work | Okay. |
| 22:27.58 | trh_ | Antiarc|Work: basically the same |
| 22:28.03 | Antiarc|Work | I think it's probably related to mob translation then. |
| 22:28.25 | Antiarc|Work | Daemona: Next time it happens, can you /run AceLibrary("Threat-1.0"):DumpTranslationTable() |
| 22:28.28 | trh_ | Antiarc|Work: it's a bit strange though that it happened while in fight |
| 22:28.29 | ravagernl | lol http://i0005.photobucket.com/albums/0005/icanhascheezburger/2007/6/12/1/128261114448593750lolcatalignr.jpg |
| 22:28.46 | Antiarc|Work | trh_: Certainky. |
| 22:29.00 | Daemona | as long it doesnt whipe is sure :) |
| 22:29.31 | trh_ | http://icanhascheezburger.files.wordpress.com/2007/06/lvl30wizardcat.png =) |
| 22:30.06 | Dustwhisper | has Cartographer been changed? |
| 22:30.19 | Dustwhisper | I cant link from cartographer anymore, it prevents my return key from opening the chatbox |
| 22:30.22 | Enpeecee | there was an update today |
| 22:30.35 | CIA-22 | 03benumbed * r41935 10Sphere/ (28 files in 3 dirs): |
| 22:30.35 | CIA-22 | Sphere: Initial Commit |
| 22:30.35 | CIA-22 | - Sphere Mod for Spells, Items, Macros |
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| 22:32.33 | Hjalte | What's the best tanking legs for a warrior pre-karazhan? |
| 22:32.52 | sag_ich_nicht | depends on the warrior |
| 22:32.53 | sag_ich_nicht | :P |
| 22:33.17 | Hjalte | sag_ich_nicht, yeah, i'm not saying that(oh, im funny), but generally? |
| 22:33.32 | xb95 | the Bold set? |
| 22:33.37 | xb95 | and does pre-KZ mean Heroics or not |
| 22:33.49 | xb95 | Can someone recommend a clean cooldown mod (CooldownCount is what I use now, but I'm bored of it), as well as a good mod for overriding Blizzard's deafult buffs? Raiding emphasis. :) |
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| 22:34.29 | Hjalte | xb95, well, it could mean heroics eventually :) I'm considering whether or not to put expensive 12 stam gems into my timewardens leggings, that's why i wanted to know if there is a likely upgrade i should get instead or will be getting soon |
| 22:34.53 | Tornhoof | you won't upgrade those until end karazhan afaik |
| 22:35.07 | xb95 | yeah, prettys ure Torn's right, but my warrior gear knowledge isn't all that great |
| 22:35.18 | BankZ | So is the change log stuff broken in WAU? |
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| 22:39.19 | CIA-22 | 03antiarc * r41936 10Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0.lua: Threat-1.0: Fixes to mob name translation; should ensure more comprehensive coverage. |
| 22:39.44 | CIA-22 | 03antiarc * r41937 10Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0.lua: Threat-1.0: Typo fix. |
| 22:39.44 | BankZ | Anyone know if ClosetGnome fixed the bug where it couldnt handle duplicate items? |
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| 22:40.05 | Antiarc|Work | Dustwhisper: That indicates a Lua error |
| 22:40.13 | Antiarc|Work | Turn on Lua errors or look in BugSack or something |
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| 22:45.05 | F0x0r | Hjalte: timewarden's are imba for blues |
| 22:45.24 | Peoii | our MT went Timewarden -> Tier 5 |
| 22:45.52 | Peoii | so yea, they're decent... course, he just never got lucky with the curator legs. |
| 22:46.17 | sag_ich_nicht | also |
| 22:46.17 | sag_ich_nicht | yeah |
| 22:46.25 | sag_ich_nicht | the timewardens are pretty amazing |
| 22:47.31 | Antiarc|Work | Does UnitClassification return a localized string? |
| 22:47.38 | Antiarc|Work | Or is it always the english string? |
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| 22:48.49 | CIA-22 | 03benumbed * r41938 10Sphere/ (. Art/ modules/): Sphere: - Added Externals |
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| 22:49.14 | kebinusan | heh http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/news.html?in_article_id=464320&in_page_id=1770 |
| 22:49.49 | Antiarc|Work | Anyone here using a non-english client? |
| 22:50.01 | Antiarc|Work | If so, can you /dump UnitClassification("target") with something targeted? |
| 22:50.54 | snirks | in order for people to show up on my dmg list (violation), all they need is threatlib? |
| 22:51.28 | Antiarc|Work | No, ThreatLib isn't related to damage. |
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| 22:52.35 | Antiarc|Work | So, my guild's name is Southsea Buccaneers, or SSB for short. |
| 22:52.35 | Antiarc|Work | http://www.forumopolis.com/showthread.php?t=54472 |
| 22:52.59 | snirks | Antiarc|Work: i was sure i read somewhere that violation uses threatlib |
| 22:53.11 | Antiarc|Work | snirks: It does, but for threat calculations |
| 22:53.27 | snirks | ah those within violation ahhh. gotcha |
| 22:54.04 | Cryect | Using threat for damage would be interesitng :-p |
| 22:54.15 | Cryect | Imagine blizzard only gave us threat and no damage! |
| 22:54.51 | Daemona | Antiarc|Work i cant get the druid to reloadui... no more debuggin :( |
| 22:55.28 | Antiarc|Work | Heh, it's ok |
| 22:55.56 | Antiarc|Work | Can someone do me a favor? |
| 22:55.59 | Antiarc|Work | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:56.00 | snirks | Antiarc|Work: is there a directlink to threatlib i can use that will take players to the latest version of it? linking straight to the one on files.wowace.com would only give me that current SVN no? of course with proper credits give to wowace.com |
| 22:56.02 | Antiarc|Work | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:56.06 | Antiarc|Work | And tell me what the output is |
| 22:56.10 | snirks | unless its frowned upon |
| 22:56.22 | Antiarc|Work | snirks: Yeah, there is, but you shouldn't need to - Threat is embedded in Violation |
| 22:56.32 | snirks | yeah but thats not what this is for |
| 22:56.38 | Antiarc|Work | Ah, disembedded? |
| 22:56.45 | snirks | im writing a list over addons we'd like applicants/members to have |
| 22:56.53 | snirks | im guildmaster so just organizing the guild some atm :p |
| 22:57.07 | NightHawkAtWork | http://files.wowace.net/Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0.zip should always be the latest zipped version. |
| 22:57.09 | Cryect | second line just gives me errors, whats supposed to use Dump? |
| 22:57.09 | Antiarc|Work | http://files.wowace.com/Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0.zip is the direct link to the latest Threat |
| 22:57.15 | Killmore | snirks: my guild is using, Omen, Ora2, Bigwigs, Decursive |
| 22:57.21 | Antiarc|Work | Cryect: I was hoping the filename of the model. |
| 22:57.24 | Killmore | snirks: every paladin is using pallypower |
| 22:57.38 | Antiarc|Work | snirks: I'd recommend that people just use Violation or Omen though, for threat stuff. |
| 22:57.39 | Antiarc|Work | Since those have UIs |
| 22:57.44 | Cryect | Oh I see the issue |
| 22:57.48 | snirks | Killmore: we are using bigwigs or DBM, ora2, ktm |
| 22:57.50 | Cryect | there is no AuctionDressUpModel |
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| 22:58.04 | snirks | but im gonna have them install threatlib too |
| 22:58.10 | Cryect | sure you have the caps right on that? |
| 22:58.19 | snirks | Antiarc|Work: thanks for that link |
| 22:58.23 | Cryect | Its Dressup! |
| 22:58.27 | snirks | Antiarc|Work: really :) |
| 22:58.47 | Antiarc|Work | Cryect: I'm copying them out of Cosplay |
| 22:58.48 | Cryect | Nope not dressup |
| 22:58.54 | CIA-22 | 03benumbed * r41939 10Sphere/ (6 files in 2 dirs): Sphere: - Added ForumID and Keywords |
| 22:58.58 | Cryect | Strange |
| 22:58.59 | Antiarc|Work | snirks: Yeah, if you're looking for a KTM replacement, get Omen |
| 22:59.06 | Antiarc|Work | Omen and Threat are both beta, though |
| 22:59.06 | Cryect | for some reason claiming the global doesn't exist |
| 22:59.12 | Antiarc|Work | So be warned that they're changing very quickly :) |
| 22:59.34 | Antiarc|Work | Maybe the AuctionDressUpModel doesn't get created till you hit the AH |
| 22:59.40 | Antiarc|Work | I'll just add a custom model object. |
| 22:59.46 | snirks | personally im using omen |
| 22:59.58 | Antiarc|Work | In the mean time, Cryect, open your dressing room then close it |
| 23:00.00 | Antiarc|Work | Then try using DressUpModel |
| 23:00.01 | Cryect | Any idea of the model when you shift click something |
| 23:00.07 | Antiarc|Work | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:00.11 | Antiarc|Work | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:00.34 | snirks | im the MT so i have to use KTM or else my data wont show for their KTM |
| 23:00.39 | Cryect | That didn't work well |
| 23:00.40 | snirks | sux for me since i dont wanna use KTM |
| 23:00.41 | Antiarc|Work | Hehe, fair enough |
| 23:00.44 | Cryect | When you do /dump |
| 23:00.55 | Antiarc|Work | Is it userdata or something? |
| 23:00.57 | Cryect | it dumped the propertires of DressUpModel |
| 23:00.58 | NightHawkAtWork | snirks: so don't use ktm, and make them get omen ;) |
| 23:01.00 | Cryect | it didn't call the function |
| 23:01.07 | snirks | as soon as i turn it off, one of our hunters go "weoooa wooweaaa why u r turn off KTM quack" |
| 23:01.12 | Antiarc|Work | heheh |
| 23:01.31 | Antiarc|Work | Oh well, I'll test it tonight. |
| 23:01.37 | NightHawkAtWork | snirks: throw a dictionary at them, and tell them to get omen/violation/assessment/whatever :P |
| 23:02.38 | Antiarc|Work | Cryect: Is there a filename in there anywhere? |
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| 23:02.50 | Antiarc|Work | I'm trying to build a string to ID an enemy as uniquely as possible without using a name |
| 23:02.52 | snirks | but if all 25 in a raid used threat1.0, and lets say threat 1.0 was way off, it would still be accurate since all the 25 would have the same numbers to look at? |
| 23:02.52 | Antiarc|Work | For translation purposes |
| 23:03.04 | Antiarc|Work | snirks: Not necessarily |
| 23:03.21 | Antiarc|Work | If, say, Sunder isn't reporting threat properly, then it'll under-report the warrior's threat relative to other classes. |
| 23:03.24 | Antiarc|Work | Which is bad. :) |
| 23:03.54 | snirks | hehe yeah. but for threat to take into account every persons' - or + threat talents, they need threatlib installed? |
| 23:04.06 | Antiarc|Work | Yes |
| 23:04.19 | snirks | ok. its now mandatory for all guildies to get it |
| 23:05.06 | Antiarc|Work | Please make them aware that it's beta and they should update daily at least till a 1.0 Final release is made :) |
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| 23:05.18 | Antiarc|Work | WowAceUpdater is a good way to do that. |
| 23:05.41 | snirks | is there one single lib they could download for violation to be correct across the whole raid? without having to use violation? (again they are "used" to swstats) |
| 23:05.57 | snirks | im slowly trying to convert them to omen and violation tho. just gotta take babysteps |
| 23:06.14 | Antiarc|Work | I don't believe so, no. |
| 23:06.16 | NightHawkAtWork | snirks: no,there's no real damage meter 'library' |
| 23:06.20 | snirks | ok |
| 23:06.32 | NightHawkAtWork | every mod basically does its own processing |
| 23:06.37 | hypetech | the omen switch was much easier than getting them to switch from swstats ^_^ |
| 23:06.48 | CIA-22 | 03benumbed * r41940 10Sphere/: Sphere: - Fixed Externals (I suck at this) |
| 23:07.05 | abyssichate | Ominous: around? |
| 23:07.19 | Ominous | ya |
| 23:07.36 | hypetech | threat is important, but you start messing with people's dps and it's cold shoulder time :p |
| 23:08.26 | snirks | haha |
| 23:08.56 | snirks | i've noticed omen being off lately, but there was a few days ago when i saw it just being spot on reporting what KTM reported |
| 23:09.00 | snirks | made me very ahppy in my pants |
| 23:09.17 | snirks | no h8 intended |
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| 23:10.19 | trh_ | it's so stupid that you just can't add a return at a beginning of a function to let it exit before anything happens.. no, you have to comment the code after it out or do a if(true) then return end; |
| 23:10.26 | Chompers | so ktm is always right? |
| 23:10.33 | xb95 | lol |
| 23:10.47 | xb95 | ktm is always right .. no, not really. but it's usually pretty accurate. |
| 23:10.50 | snirks | Chompers: thats not what i meant :) i just meant that they were showing different things a few days ago for me |
| 23:11.16 | abyssichate | Ominous: I don't get a timer for Howl of Terror in Classtimer |
| 23:11.33 | Ominous | ok |
| 23:11.38 | Ominous | ill add it |
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| 23:12.43 | Hjalte | Does anyone else have the 'bug' with Closetgnome that it sometimes reports "That item doesn't go in that spot" and then doesnt equip one of your pieces of your set? |
| 23:12.44 | CIA-22 | 03antiarc * r41941 10Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0.lua: Threat-1.0: Added an additional parameter to attempt to limit race conditions in mob translation that occur due to rapid target switching. Drycode, please test. |
| 23:12.58 | vhaarr | Hjalte: yeah that's the last bug before release |
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| 23:14.34 | snirks | Hjalte: all the time |
| 23:14.53 | snirks | i think its for dualwielding items that says "One Handed" |
| 23:15.03 | Antiarc|Work | It's not just that |
| 23:15.10 | snirks | but thats got to be one of them |
| 23:15.12 | Antiarc|Work | It happens a lot with my trinkets |
| 23:15.15 | snirks | ah ok |
| 23:15.26 | snirks | blazefury + the decapitator. all the time. |
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| 23:15.50 | Eyes-t | Hi! |
| 23:15.57 | vhaarr | identical trinkets and 1h+1h/shield vs 2h |
| 23:16.07 | Antiarc|Work | If I have one set with [Hourglass of the Unraveller] (top slot) and [Abacus of Violent Odds] (bottom slot), then one set with [Abacus of Violent Odds] (top slot) and [Insignia of the Alliance] (bottom slot), it takes two applications to work. |
| 23:16.09 | vhaarr | I just can't be arsed to fix it, since it doesn't happen to me |
| 23:16.31 | Hjalte | vhaar, if you have a set like Antiarcs with the trinkets, doesnt it happen then? |
| 23:16.37 | vhaarr | right |
| 23:16.39 | Hjalte | vhaarr* |
| 23:16.54 | snirks | vhaarr: your closetgnome dev? |
| 23:16.56 | snirks | you're |
| 23:16.58 | vhaarr | yes |
| 23:17.05 | snirks | and you don't want to fix it? :( |
| 23:17.09 | vhaarr | not really |
| 23:17.48 | snirks | oh btw, was cool to see wau with threads suddenly |
| 23:18.00 | CIA-22 | 03adirelle * r41942 10SimpleSelfRebuff/SimpleSelfRebuff.lua: |
| 23:18.00 | CIA-22 | SimpleSelfRebuff: |
| 23:18.00 | CIA-22 | - detailled a bit the fubar tooltip. |
| 23:18.05 | Hjalte | snirks, let's make a competitor to closetgnome! ... You wouldnt happen to know how to code, would you? |
| 23:18.17 | snirks | CAN HAS STDIO? |
| 23:18.18 | vhaarr | Hjalte: just fix it for me instead :P |
| 23:18.39 | snirks | nah im not good with coding. especially not lua |
| 23:18.59 | Hjalte | Unless I can fix it with html and some php, it's a no :P |
| 23:19.07 | Antiarc|Work | vhaarr: ClosetGnome is using 407% of my CPU >:( |
| 23:19.13 | vhaarr | haha |
| 23:19.13 | snirks | at least we can make a homepage about wanting to fix closetgnome |
| 23:19.19 | snirks | maybe set up a paypal donation to vhaarr |
| 23:19.19 | vhaarr | Antiarc|Work: Unpossible! |
| 23:19.23 | CIA-22 | 03sayclub * r41943 10Grid/GridLocale-koKR.lua: Grid: Updated translation koKR |
| 23:19.31 | Antiarc|Work | vhaarr: KPM said so. |
| 23:19.38 | phyber | <3 consistency. [IsFriend?Text(Friendly):HostileColor] over a friendly player = a nice blue colour. over a friendly NPC = green. grrr |
| 23:19.51 | vhaarr | Antiarc|Work: I guess I'll have to start optimizing, then! |
| 23:19.57 | CIA-22 | 03benumbed * r41944 10Sphere/Sphere.toc: Sphere: - Fixed Typo |
| 23:20.01 | Antiarc|Work | *grin* |
| 23:20.01 | snirks | nah but i get by that closetgnome bug by spamming button to next itemset repeatedly till all items are in their slot |
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| 23:20.20 | vhaarr | now you make me want to fix it |
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| 23:20.29 | vhaarr | that would mean I could finally release it as stable |
| 23:20.34 | vhaarr | meh |
| 23:20.38 | snirks | dont feel forced, but its a bitch to click that button during leotheras demon phase |
| 23:20.42 | snirks | i get by, but i die a little inside too |
| 23:20.51 | CIA-22 | 03toadkiller * r41945 10PeriodicTable-3.0/ (2 files in 2 dirs): |
| 23:20.51 | CIA-22 | PeriodicTable-3.0: |
| 23:20.51 | CIA-22 | -- 30853,29443,30175 & other quest items |
| 23:20.59 | snirks | dont make me die inside, vhaar |
| 23:21.20 | ulic | vhaarr: I'm going on vacation soon, but I might get around to tweaking more on CG after I get back. |
| 23:21.52 | Gandharva | vhaarr: Tell people to specc MS instead DW fury to avoid that bug in Closet_Gnome ;) |
| 23:22.00 | CIA-22 | 03celellach * r41946 10AtlasLoot/Reputation/rep.lua: |
| 23:22.00 | CIA-22 | AtlasLoot: |
| 23:22.00 | CIA-22 | - Rep update and fixes |
| 23:22.03 | vhaarr | ulic: deal! |
| 23:22.14 | vhaarr | Gandharva: good idea, thanks |
| 23:22.38 | Dotted | WAU massivly fails :( |
| 23:22.43 | Dotted | 3 crashes in arow |
| 23:22.53 | Dotted | and wont show my addons anympore >_> |
| 23:23.14 | vhaarr | Kaelten: lots of people have reported WAU crashes today |
| 23:23.20 | snirks | Gandharva: ROFL |
| 23:23.41 | snirks | haha thats so great |
| 23:24.00 | Gandharva | Dotted: This is intended. They want you to switch to http://www.wowace.com/wau2/ |
| 23:24.05 | snirks | "We would also like you to download ClosetGnome and respec to Mortal Strike" |
| 23:24.07 | Dotted | sucks |
| 23:24.25 | Antiarc|Work | Gah. I got glasses yesterday and they're totally messing with my head at the computer. |
| 23:24.26 | Dotted | im gonna switch to Discord and KTM like mods then |
| 23:24.36 | Dotted | :p |
| 23:24.39 | Cryect | How's this looking for a summary window http://img149.imageshack.us/img149/9854/updatedsummaryrj1.jpg |
| 23:24.48 | Kaelten | vhaarr: so I hear |
| 23:24.49 | Cryect | I'm thinking of Moving Healing over to the Left though |
| 23:25.06 | Cryect | Not sure (kinda don't like the pet in the middle) |
| 23:25.06 | aen` | anyone have a prob with closetgnome oh noes? |
| 23:25.15 | aen` | it works maybe 2% of the time |
| 23:25.40 | Antiarc|Work | I have a weaponless CG set bound to ctrl-0 |
| 23:25.43 | Antiarc|Work | That's my OhNoes :P |
| 23:26.54 | Cryect | Oh my I forgot block >_> |
| 23:28.09 | CIA-22 | 03kemayo * r41947 10/branches/AuldLangSyne/: Create directory remotely. |
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| 23:28.54 | Pheredhel | gn8 |
| 23:29.39 | kebinusan | Cryect: Looks good |
| 23:31.04 | Cryect | Forgot unknowns but oh well already a little crowded |
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| 23:32.00 | Cryect | BabbleSpell wouldn't happen to be conviently categorized by stuns, fears, etc would it? :-p |
| 23:32.05 | kebinusan | maybe have damage and healing detal seperately somehow |
| 23:32.10 | Andune | ok question for you healers: what mod(s?) do you use to monitor the heals being cast by other members of the raid when spot-healing to avoid healing duplication? |
| 23:32.21 | kebinusan | like separate tabs |
| 23:32.37 | CIA-22 | 03kemayo 072.0 * r41948 10AuldLangSyne/ (24 files in 6 dirs): |
| 23:32.37 | CIA-22 | AuldLangSyne: 2.0 branch. |
| 23:32.37 | CIA-22 | -OMG modules. |
| 23:32.37 | CIA-22 | -OMG drycoded. |
| 23:33.05 | Cryect | Curious about tracking Stuns, Fear, Snares though fear I will ahve to make a table of those spells |
| 23:33.06 | Wobin | Andune: generally Grid |
| 23:33.28 | CIA-22 | 03ulic * r41949 10SwapMagic/SwapMagic.lua: |
| 23:33.28 | CIA-22 | SwapMagic: |
| 23:33.28 | CIA-22 | - Added IsEquippableItem check |
| 23:33.28 | CIA-22 | - Added option to display items in a single row, defaults to off. |
| 23:33.33 | Andune | wobin: hmm. so you just look for the little green square (or whatever you've configured it to) and pass on that person? |
| 23:34.02 | Dotted | WTB Item sets with SwapMagic |
| 23:34.09 | Andune | wobin: tho i've seen it work in the past, can't say I've seen it as much recently. I'll have to tweak with it I guess |
| 23:34.10 | Dotted | ulic make it happen :p |
| 23:34.35 | Cryect | At the moment I'm not really tracking that many healing stats. I like to add Saving Heals but still have to work out the tracking for calculating saving heals |
| 23:34.42 | Andune | X-perl has a really nice frame that shows all the casters, their current spell and their current target. I'm lookin for something like that, but preferably not tied to X-perl :) |
| 23:34.54 | Zicon | dotted: It already exists. It's called "ItemRack". |
| 23:35.01 | Cryect | Guess I should add DOT & HOT Uptime |
| 23:35.05 | Antiarc|Work | Or ClosetGnome |
| 23:35.11 | Andune | <3 ClosetGnome. |
| 23:35.18 | Antiarc|Work | ulic: While you're in there, I have a request - |
| 23:35.25 | Antiarc|Work | Don't queue weapon swaps for out-of-combat |
| 23:35.27 | ulic | uh-oh |
| 23:35.32 | Dotted | Zicon last i checked its UI iw extrmely gay as with every other wardrope mod exept for Outfitter |
| 23:35.44 | Dotted | *was |
| 23:35.57 | snirks | Antiarc|Work: in cg? |
| 23:35.57 | Antiarc|Work | I hate having to dig through my bags to swap out my ranged weapon - SwapMagic queues it for P_R_E, even though you can switch weapons in combat |
| 23:36.00 | Antiarc|Work | SwapMagic |
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| 23:36.34 | Shadow^^ | Hey, anyone around that can help me out with an issue with Omen? It doesnt show any threat =( |
| 23:36.37 | ulic | I'll add it to some possible todo notes, but I think I'm done hacking for the day :) |
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| 23:37.06 | snirks | ulicI'll add it to some possible todo notes, but I think I'm done hacking for the day |
| 23:37.34 | ulic | we get a new quote bot? :) |
| 23:37.55 | snirks | he disconnected before you wrote it |
| 23:37.57 | snirks | and rejoined after |
| 23:38.09 | Antiarc|Work | Thanks |
| 23:38.12 | CIA-22 | 03trh * r41950 10VanasKoS/modules/WarnFrame.lua: VanasKoS: added class icons to the warnframe... |
| 23:38.12 | Antiarc|Work | Yeah, client froze on me |
| 23:38.12 | ulic | oh, hehe, didn't notice, thanks :P |
| 23:38.28 | Dotted | besides Zicon it isnt Ace so no WAU updating :/ |
| 23:38.40 | ulic | what was the other issue vhaarr mentioned with CG, identical items, and something about 2h/1h+1h? |
| 23:38.45 | Gandharva | she's sooo cute http://home.arcor.de/herbertschindler/pics/mutzi/ |
| 23:39.39 | Dotted | Gandharva :D |
| 23:39.44 | trh_ | Gandharva: give her an powerbook ;) http://youtube.com/watch?v=8RmWxpyCjzk ;) |
| 23:39.45 | Antiarc|Work | http://home.arcor.de/herbertschindler/pics/mutzi/Katze07%20003.jpg <-- "HALP I LIKKED FROZN COUCH" |
| 23:40.01 | vhaarr | ulic: right |
| 23:40.37 | ulic | vhaarr: it just has trouble with the swapping from 1h+1h to 2h, and vice versa? |
| 23:40.59 | vhaarr | eh, I don't know |
| 23:41.26 | ulic | ok, I'll play with it some when I get around to it, and check the issue trac if there are any :) |
| 23:41.54 | rophy | ulic is the author of CG? |
| 23:41.58 | vhaarr | I am |
| 23:42.05 | rophy | o_O? |
| 23:42.07 | vhaarr | ulic: there are *tons* of posts about this in the forum thread |
| 23:42.07 | ulic | but he's unmotivated :) |
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| 23:42.34 | rophy | i love you vhaarr |
| 23:42.37 | rophy | now be motivated! |
| 23:42.48 | vhaarr | ! |
| 23:42.52 | ulic | vhaarr: lots of open tickets in the bug tracker too |
| 23:43.03 | vhaarr | ulic: I don't use the bug tracker |
| 23:43.26 | ulic | you did 3 months ago :P |
| 23:43.36 | aen` | is there a way to hide the tooltip on macro buttons when you hover over them? |
| 23:43.39 | ulic | anyhow, at least gives me things to double check on too |
| 23:43.39 | vhaarr | orly |
| 23:43.48 | ulic | well somebody named 'rabbit' |
| 23:43.57 | ulic | oh, hehe |
| 23:43.58 | ulic | nm |
| 23:44.05 | ulic | they just assigned them to 'rabbit' |
| 23:44.09 | vhaarr | :) |
| 23:44.33 | ulic | at least some of them took the time to stick a name in there |
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| 23:46.34 | snirks | hi vlads |
| 23:46.37 | Shadow^^ | Anyone have any idea why my Omen threat mod doesnt display any threat bars? =( |
| 23:46.49 | Antiarc|Work | Update. If you run disembedded, update Parser-3.0 |
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| 23:46.58 | Antiarc|Work | (Parser broke yesterday, been reverted since) |
| 23:47.59 | hypetech | how many times have you said that today? :) |
| 23:48.14 | Cryect | people should just know to update by now if threat is broken |
| 23:48.24 | Cryect | At least for how often it breaks :-p |
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| 23:49.46 | hyperChipmunk | lol i'd never seen the armory profile of someone whose talent points haven't yet been spent: http://armory.worldofwarcraft.com/#character-sheet.xml?r=Feathermoon&n=Daverick |
| 23:50.03 | ulic | Cryect: if ANYTHING is broken, update, test again, then report :) |
| 23:50.26 | hyperChipmunk | i like the icon |
| 23:50.37 | snirks | hi Vladz |
| 23:50.39 | snirks | welcome |
| 23:51.05 | snirks | so anyone watch star trek here? |
| 23:51.24 | snirks | Moogi |
| 23:51.29 | Vladz | hai |
| 23:52.01 | kenlyric | snirks: yes, I'm a big dork. |
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| 23:52.26 | snirks | kenlyric: you watch star trek? |
| 23:53.13 | kenlyric | yes. |
| 23:53.13 | Wobin | Antiarc|Work: aha! |
| 23:54.02 | Wobin | hyperChipmunk: We had a rogue in our raiding channel that hadn't allocated talent points at 55 |
| 23:54.25 | snirks | im on season 5 DS9 |
| 23:54.48 | Vladz | thanks snirks, pressed exit just as i saw what you wrote :) |
| 23:55.22 | kenlyric | snirks: it' |
| 23:55.27 | kenlyric | s all a dream. |
| 23:56.02 | NeoTron | I'd be so rich if I had never respecced |
| 23:56.04 | kenlyric | wait, no, the holodeck went bad on the enterprise again and created an alternate universe where the writers had skill. |
| 23:56.05 | liquiem | hyperChipmunk, looks like he didnt login after the rogue patch some time ago, where talentpoints got reseted |
| 23:56.13 | NeoTron | sometimes though, I drop down 5g to 45g ... :P |
| 23:56.24 | snirks | kenlyric: im not following you. and i hope you just didnt ruin DS9 for me |
| 23:56.37 | kenlyric | snirks: it was a joke, obviously. |
| 23:57.01 | kenlyric | well, obviously not so obvious as I intended. |
| 23:57.26 | kenlyric | NeoTron, you'd suck beyond the telling of it if you never respecced. |
| 23:58.08 | kenlyric | none of us spend our points very wisely the first time around, because they all seem to look good at the first and second tier of each tree. |
| 23:58.16 | NeoTron | well |
| 23:58.22 | NeoTron | I'm mainly talkign about @70 spec |
| 23:58.34 | NeoTron | if you've always had the same role (like raiding) it could always have been the same.. |
| 23:58.42 | NeoTron | but I respec to move 5 points around |
| 23:58.46 | NeoTron | and other minimal stuff |
| 23:58.47 | kenlyric | holy crap now. |
| 23:58.56 | kenlyric | half my respecs have just been fine-tuning my raiding spec :) |
| 23:59.02 | kenlyric | no, not now. |
| 23:59.17 | Cryect | he said it could always |
| 23:59.20 | NeoTron | and now I'm once again thinking affliction vs destruction |
| 23:59.22 | Cryect | didn't say it would |
| 23:59.29 | NeoTron | right |
| 23:59.42 | Cryect | I pretty much had the same resto healing spec through naxx/bwl |
| 23:59.44 | NeoTron | it's very possible to pick "the right spec" simply by doing research prior to speccing |
| 23:59.47 | Cryect | and same before the druid patch |
