| 00:00.48 | deltron | Gagorian: ping |
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| 00:04.18 | Hjalte | ckknight, is it possible that Cowtip can skin other tooltips than just the first item-tooltip? I'm thinking of itemcompare, kc_item and such other tooltips :) |
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| 00:14.53 | art3mis | is anyone running suse? |
| 00:17.58 | Dustwhisper | so |
| 00:18.07 | Dustwhisper | is blizz/someone gonna fix the goddamn gamefreeze soon |
| 00:18.09 | Dustwhisper | on load in raids? |
| 00:18.15 | sag_ich_nicht | uhm |
| 00:18.16 | sag_ich_nicht | yes |
| 00:18.17 | sag_ich_nicht | 2.1.3 |
| 00:18.25 | sag_ich_nicht | (supposedly) |
| 00:18.25 | Dustwhisper | anyway to fix it as it is? |
| 00:19.17 | Dustwhisper | or preven it from happening |
| 00:19.17 | sag_ich_nicht | well |
| 00:19.17 | sag_ich_nicht | update your unit frames |
| 00:19.17 | Dustwhisper | did 2 days ago |
| 00:19.17 | Dustwhisper | or 4 |
| 00:19.17 | Dustwhisper | aguf |
| 00:19.17 | Dustwhisper | updated grid aswell |
| 00:19.17 | hyperChipmunk | i'd appreciate if my game didn't crash 90% of the time when my pet dies =\ |
| 00:19.37 | durcyn | we'd appreciate it if you didn't kill your pet. jerk. |
| 00:19.38 | sag_ich_nicht | i'd appreciate if my game didn't give me a #134 crash when i alt + tab from time to time telling me to check AGP aperture size when I have a friggin PCI-E videocard |
| 00:19.39 | hyperChipmunk | i'd really like to be able to use him again |
| 00:20.10 | Dustwhisper | another thing |
| 00:20.16 | Dustwhisper | for some reason all text on Grid frames |
| 00:20.18 | Dustwhisper | disappear all the time |
| 00:20.22 | hyperChipmunk | it's great fun in arena groups |
| 00:20.28 | Dustwhisper | especially if i do a UI reload or disable and enable it |
| 00:20.40 | hyperChipmunk | oh hai i killed your pet; take a seat |
| 00:20.47 | kaiden | haha |
| 00:20.52 | kaiden | sorry hC ;P |
| 00:20.57 | kaiden | i know that must suck it just made me laugh |
| 00:21.02 | hyperChipmunk | >8\ |
| 00:21.07 | mikma | is there an easy way to disable the Ace2 /dump? |
| 00:21.12 | hyperChipmunk | you don't even come back into the match |
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| 00:21.25 | kaiden | i logged in my warlock last night and i was like.. WTF.. why did i stop playing this char again |
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| 00:21.39 | hyperChipmunk | if you d/c you come back out at the battlemaster |
| 00:21.45 | kaiden | took a 70 lock / 70 priest and a friends 29 shaman through gnomeregan killed all the mobs in like 20 mins |
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| 00:23.49 | sag_ich_nicht | lol |
| 00:24.12 | sag_ich_nicht | [02:21] <mikma> is there an easy way to disable the Ace2 /dump? <--seconding this request, it's annoying and not very helpful D: |
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| 00:25.19 | sag_ich_nicht | gah, i'll sleep now, n8 |
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| 00:27.59 | daemoen | hey all. |
| 00:28.11 | mikma | ckknight_: <sag_ich_nicht> [02:21] <mikma> is there an easy way to disable the Ace2 /dump? <--seconding this request, it's annoying and not very helpful D: |
| 00:28.17 | daemoen | Why were the trinity bars replaced with bartender? (what was the actual reason behind it ) |
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| 00:30.48 | Chompers | paladin aoe grinding is fantastic |
| 00:30.53 | Chompers | level and a half in a day |
| 00:31.02 | kaiden | what level are you though |
| 00:31.09 | Chompers | 48 |
| 00:32.31 | Chompers | nothing amazing, but it beats being retri spec |
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| 00:33.27 | Saroz | Fixed a crash triggered by many unit frame AddOns. |
| 00:33.29 | Saroz | gg blizz |
| 00:33.41 | Saroz | http://www.mmo-champion.com/index.php?topic=385.0 |
| 00:34.26 | Saroz | can't wait to see the diff of the securetemplates |
| 00:35.47 | Chompers | Saroz, how many attempts did it take you to down mag? |
| 00:36.01 | Chompers | attempts/days/weeks even |
| 00:36.25 | Saroz | dont remember |
| 00:36.29 | Saroz | did it pre-nerf |
| 00:36.40 | Saroz | back when phase 1 was the hard part |
| 00:36.50 | Saroz | now it's just about getting 10 people to click cubes |
| 00:36.56 | vhaarr | post-nerf we downed him after 6 hours of entering the lair |
| 00:37.01 | [FH]Birdemani | so wait, i wont crash randomly anymore because i use UF addons? |
| 00:37.06 | [FH]Birdemani | wtf |
| 00:37.10 | Jagobah | Anyone here use Prat? |
| 00:37.23 | Hjalte | Jagobah, yeah? |
| 00:37.29 | Chompers | we're not sure who to try, mag or void |
| 00:37.39 | Saroz | void is easier than mag |
| 00:37.41 | Saroz | by far |
| 00:37.49 | Saroz | mag is easier than anything in SSC though |
| 00:38.00 | Chompers | :O |
| 00:38.05 | Chompers | even the lurker? |
| 00:38.15 | Saroz | mmmm, ok maybe on par with lurker |
| 00:38.30 | Birdemani | i wouldnt say that saroz |
| 00:38.38 | Birdemani | if your guild has done cthun, lurker is easy |
| 00:38.43 | Birdemani | easier than mag even |
| 00:38.44 | Saroz | lol? |
| 00:38.47 | Saroz | why? |
| 00:38.54 | Saroz | lurker is not about running |
| 00:38.57 | Birdemani | lurker is almost the same fight as ctun |
| 00:39.01 | Birdemani | eh, we did running |
| 00:39.03 | Saroz | no? |
| 00:39.05 | Saroz | uhm |
| 00:39.07 | Saroz | clear platforms |
| 00:39.08 | Saroz | no fish |
| 00:39.10 | Saroz | jump in water |
| 00:39.12 | Saroz | avoid spout |
| 00:39.14 | Saroz | gg |
| 00:39.21 | Birdemani | ya, guess they wanted to run |
| 00:39.32 | Saroz | we lost 10 people when trying to run |
| 00:39.36 | Saroz | we loose none when we dive |
| 00:39.38 | Saroz | ftw |
| 00:39.41 | Chompers | dive works |
| 00:39.47 | Birdemani | its an easy fight either way really |
| 00:39.52 | Chompers | running does not |
| 00:39.53 | Saroz | dive is the intended way IMO |
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| 00:40.06 | Saroz | otherwise there would be no reason why clearing all platforms despawns the fish |
| 00:40.06 | Birdemani | clicking wrong on mags is a pita esp if you have dumb dps classes that say "omg meters" |
| 00:40.19 | Saroz | mag is piss now, get people to click |
| 00:40.25 | Birdemani | i agree |
| 00:40.33 | Saroz | adds just go down |
| 00:40.34 | Birdemani | but you know how many idiots play this game |
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| 00:40.39 | Saroz | true but still |
| 00:40.48 | Saroz | get a mod to announce who clicks when |
| 00:40.49 | Saroz | solved |
| 00:40.55 | Birdemani | i know |
| 00:41.11 | Birdemani | in fact, im thinking of brining my new casual guild there first instead of mulgar |
| 00:41.18 | Saroz | nah |
| 00:41.28 | Birdemani | we may not have a mage |
| 00:41.36 | Saroz | you dont have 1 mage? |
| 00:41.42 | Birdemani | rerolled shammy |
| 00:41.50 | Saroz | wow |
| 00:41.52 | Birdemani | the other one isnt always on, owns his own company |
| 00:41.59 | Birdemani | thus, "casual guild" |
| 00:42.04 | Saroz | mm |
| 00:42.08 | Chompers | take one of ours, and give us a paladi |
| 00:42.09 | Chompers | n |
| 00:42.24 | Birdemani | eh, i did the hardcore shit, im not going to bang on the drums and be an idiot raid leader |
| 00:42.46 | Saroz | I am |
| 00:42.48 | Saroz | it works |
| 00:42.51 | Saroz | :p |
| 00:43.02 | Birdemani | it gets old after a couple of years |
| 00:43.08 | Saroz | meh |
| 00:43.09 | Birdemani | 2 night of raiding a week is fun |
| 00:43.15 | Saroz | not progressing more old |
| 00:43.19 | Saroz | we got 4 |
| 00:43.34 | Birdemani | if we get to ssc i may push for that |
| 00:43.44 | Saroz | go get T5 shoulders |
| 00:43.51 | Birdemani | but ive seen vashj die, so im not in any rush |
| 00:44.45 | Chompers | its a nuke fight, right? |
| 00:44.50 | Saroz | what is? |
| 00:44.57 | Chompers | for void reaver |
| 00:44.57 | Birdemani | vashj? its actually fun |
| 00:45.05 | Birdemani | oh |
| 00:45.06 | Saroz | void reaver? yea I guess |
| 00:45.09 | Saroz | move and nuke |
| 00:45.14 | Birdemani | duck and move |
| 00:45.22 | Saroz | avoid bolts targetting at people in the raid |
| 00:45.23 | Saroz | so easy |
| 00:45.25 | ccKep | << hates void reaver |
| 00:45.28 | Saroz | 4-5 tries tops to kill |
| 00:45.32 | Saroz | super fun fight |
| 00:45.42 | Chompers | sweet, i want some decent shoulders |
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| 00:45.58 | Saroz | you need some nice dps though, if you arent that well geared |
| 00:46.01 | Saroz | 10 min enrage timer |
| 00:46.02 | ccKep | killed him on first attempt, but HOW we kill him.... omg |
| 00:46.11 | ccKep | 10min is plenty |
| 00:46.14 | Birdemani | a kz geared group may be able to get void |
| 00:46.21 | Saroz | in kara gear? maybe |
| 00:46.24 | Birdemani | esp if you have crafted gear |
| 00:46.25 | ccKep | our last kill ended 10 seconds before enrage, 13 people alive xD |
| 00:46.30 | Saroz | we kill him 2 min before enrage |
| 00:46.37 | Saroz | rogues own :p |
| 00:46.43 | ccKep | I'm healing the rogues |
| 00:46.53 | ccKep | normally we have 2 healers for melee |
| 00:46.55 | Saroz | JoL + shaman |
| 00:46.57 | ccKep | the other one always dies... |
| 00:47.01 | ccKep | and I have to solo heal them |
| 00:47.08 | ccKep | takes 2 mana tides and 4 mana potions, doh |
| 00:47.12 | Saroz | I did that, very doable |
| 00:47.15 | Saroz | < paladin |
| 00:47.18 | ccKep | << shaman |
| 00:47.22 | Saroz | pssh |
| 00:47.41 | daemoen | wow... after looking at some of the ui screenshots... makes noobs feel like crap when they look at their own compared to how slick and nice the skilled mod users make theirs look, lol |
| 00:47.46 | Chompers | you still prot Saroz? |
| 00:47.54 | Saroz | was never prot |
| 00:47.57 | Saroz | 47 holy |
| 00:48.00 | Saroz | 14 prot |
| 00:48.02 | Chompers | oh |
| 00:48.05 | Chompers | lulz |
| 00:48.11 | Saroz | got 4/5 prot T4 though :p |
| 00:48.18 | Saroz | for fun |
| 00:48.19 | ccKep | our second ID in tempest keep this week, guess they nerfed the hell out of the instance |
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| 00:49.06 | ccKep | we kicked our guild members for doing the heroic trial of the naaru stuff and after finally getting enough people attuned blizzard removes the attunement-stuff -.- |
| 00:49.13 | Saroz | http://armory.wow-europe.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Kul%20Tiras&n=Saroz |
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| 00:50.23 | ccKep | last week void reaver + solarian firstkill, this week al'ar... want to see kael ^.^ |
| 00:50.38 | Saroz | tried alar once |
| 00:50.39 | ccKep | but I don't see my guild killing kael in the next few weeks... to many stupid casuals |
| 00:50.43 | Saroz | looks like a blast |
| 00:50.46 | ccKep | alar is cake |
| 00:50.55 | Saroz | looked like super fun |
| 00:50.58 | ccKep | we killed solarian on 22:30, our raid lasts till 23:00 |
| 00:51.03 | Saroz | gonna kill vashj first though |
| 00:51.05 | ccKep | so we said we'd look on al'Ar |
| 00:51.10 | ccKep | 4th try: 40% phase2 -.- |
| 00:51.24 | ccKep | maintank died then, lawl |
| 00:51.43 | ccKep | I always thought alar has tons of hp |
| 00:52.10 | Daemona | naaaa... "killing adds will be more rewarding" ;) |
| 00:52.19 | ccKep | we |
| 00:52.21 | ccKep | doh |
| 00:52.24 | Saroz | can't wait to try him again, but aiming for vashj first |
| 00:52.25 | ccKep | we're killing adds till ~20% |
| 00:52.29 | ccKep | then offtank the rest :o |
| 00:52.40 | Daemona | per killed add you deal 3% dmg to al'ar |
| 00:52.47 | ccKep | yeah I know |
| 00:52.48 | Daemona | have the melee on the adds, ranged on al'ar |
| 00:52.56 | Saroz | thats what we did |
| 00:53.45 | ccKep | alar is easier than vashj imho |
| 00:53.53 | ccKep | more control of the fight |
| 00:53.54 | Saroz | yea but want the bitch dead |
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| 00:54.42 | ccKep | [02:49:14] <Saroz> http://armory.wow-europe.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Kul%20Tiras&n=Saroz |
| 00:54.43 | ccKep | << http://armory.wow-europe.com/#character-sheet.xml?r=Blackhand&n=D%C3%A9ie |
| 00:54.57 | Birdemani | RIP NFL EUROPE |
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| 00:57.11 | ccKep | hope we can reproduce the solarian kill this week |
| 00:57.20 | ccKep | was kind of lame last week |
| 00:57.28 | ccKep | dps seems pretty low for us |
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| 00:57.52 | Saroz | dps is always the problem in TBC encounters :p |
| 00:58.18 | Chompers | been gearing our dps up recently |
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| 00:58.26 | MikkWoW | that's because they're tuned according to everyone outputting nice dps |
| 00:58.34 | Chompers | a guilds been trying to steal them from us |
| 00:58.40 | MikkWoW | if you watch your charts, you'll likely see the lower tier dpsers doing half of the top ones |
| 00:58.48 | MikkWoW | that's just not cutting it |
| 00:59.03 | ccKep | we've been working on that for last few weeks |
| 00:59.04 | Daemona | cckep well there is 2 ways of doing it.. let all wear arcane resi... or get 2 warriors above 400 resistance |
| 00:59.17 | ccKep | we use the second way |
| 00:59.25 | ccKep | and aim to down her within 3 addphases |
| 00:59.41 | ccKep | but healer mana is pretty much 0 after the 3rd phase -.- |
| 00:59.53 | ccKep | TONS of overheal due to flash healing AM targets |
| 01:00.26 | Daemona | let paladins take care of that, have the priest gheal the arcane resi tanks |
| 01:00.53 | Chompers | i just didnt expect quite a well known guild to actually go out and attempt to steal people out of their guilds :/ |
| 01:00.57 | ccKep | we had one druid for the AR tanks, 3 paladins for AM targets + me (shaman) and a priest spot healing the raid |
| 01:01.15 | Daemona | Chompers huu? |
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| 01:01.27 | ccKep | http://www.lossendil.com/wws/?report=vvuwbwch4fvhu&s=5184-5547 |
| 01:01.34 | Chompers | maybe i'n being naive |
| 01:01.35 | ccKep | wws of our kill last week |
| 01:01.38 | Chompers | *i'm |
| 01:02.27 | ccKep | try #7 was a nice wipe xD |
| 01:03.23 | NeoTron | ccKep: wait what, overheal from flash heal? |
| 01:03.48 | NeoTron | damn you have a demo lock at the top DPS |
| 01:03.59 | ccKep | he just tried demo |
| 01:04.07 | ccKep | he re-skills every few days |
| 01:04.19 | ccKep | got some VERY nice equip that guy |
| 01:04.21 | NeoTron | sort of like me I guess |
| 01:04.24 | aen` | damn my alt is gettin decked out in kar |
| 01:04.49 | aen` | staff from curator, maidens bracelets, pants from opera |
| 01:05.19 | ccKep | http://armory.wow-europe.com/#character-sheet.xml?r=Blackhand&n=Jaffar |
| 01:05.23 | ccKep | guess you mean him |
| 01:05.29 | NeoTron | so two affliction, 1 demo/dest |
| 01:05.30 | NeoTron | yeah |
| 01:05.45 | ccKep | thats not his affliction equip though :( |
| 01:06.11 | ccKep | he reaches 1500 shadowdamage if skilled for affliction (which is his main tree) |
| 01:06.49 | ccKep | but thats our dpser #1 |
| 01:07.01 | NeoTron | raid buffed to the limits I presume? |
| 01:07.17 | ccKep | raid buffed 16xx (without shammy) afaik |
| 01:07.25 | ccKep | well |
| 01:07.26 | ccKep | no |
| 01:07.31 | ccKep | 16xx with shammy |
| 01:07.41 | ccKep | but he doesn't get a shamy, harrharr |
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| 01:08.00 | ccKep | we only have 3 shaman, all resto... usually only take one or two to raids |
| 01:08.09 | ccKep | one of them being meh :> |
| 01:08.16 | NeoTron | we have two |
| 01:08.19 | Gagorian | I doubt he can get over 1600 even with shammy |
| 01:08.28 | NeoTron | one elemental, one enhance that we make play resto |
| 01:09.35 | NeoTron | that's a lot of mage there |
| 01:09.49 | ccKep | yeah, sadly |
| 01:09.52 | NeoTron | we only have 2 mages that are actually worth a damn in 25-mans :-/ |
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| 01:10.01 | NeoTron | but we have 4 kickass locks, and two good locks |
| 01:10.02 | ccKep | mage don't do that much dps as back in the days pre-bc :( |
| 01:10.08 | NeoTron | so usually lock-heavy raids |
| 01:10.44 | ccKep | can't think of any good dps-benchmark fight right now :( |
| 01:11.26 | NeoTron | really does depend a lot on the group |
| 01:12.23 | Daemona | best dps benchmark was pre 2.1 Hydoss |
| 01:12.31 | Daemona | tanking in 250% nature phase |
| 01:12.44 | NeoTron | indeed |
| 01:12.50 | NeoTron | zero gimmick fight at that point |
| 01:12.58 | ccKep | we didn't tank him in 250% nature pre 2.1, as the change was already anounced as we started trying him |
| 01:13.02 | CIA-22 | 03roartindon * r42289 10oRA2/Leader/Ready.lua: oRA2: Fixed vote windows being in-dismiss-able |
| 01:13.05 | Daemona | but caster can benchmark against that mob neaer area52... |
| 01:13.19 | durcyn | kael p2-p3 are good benchmarks |
| 01:13.25 | NeoTron | Daemona: it's a good way to test spells, crappy way to get a good idea of actual dps |
| 01:13.36 | NeoTron | ccKep: Al'ar or Sol - who's easier? |
| 01:13.45 | ccKep | definately al'ar I'd say |
| 01:13.50 | NeoTron | since you seem to have started SSC relatively late like my own guild (just got morogrim down) |
| 01:13.57 | NeoTron | ok |
| 01:14.00 | trh | NeoTron: to compare dps over a period of x minutes it's ok |
| 01:14.07 | NeoTron | trh: yep. I use it a lot |
| 01:14.20 | NeoTron | all ranged dps should use it to test out specs/gear |
| 01:14.26 | ccKep | http://www.concilium-wow.de/ <<< guess you can't read the news, but you can read the kill-dates at the bottom of the news |
| 01:14.48 | NeoTron | I'm swedish.. but studied french in school not german >:-) |
| 01:14.52 | NeoTron | not like I remember any french now |
| 01:14.59 | ccKep | if I were new to TK I'd say: VR -> al'ar -> solarian -> kael (didn't try kael yet.. but you don't have a choice on that one anyways) |
| 01:15.24 | NeoTron | heh you got vashj before VR? hard time gettnig ppl attuned? |
| 01:15.37 | ccKep | exactly |
| 01:15.49 | ccKep | as we got enough people attuned blizzard removed the need for it -.- |
| 01:16.00 | NeoTron | we has like 22 ppla attuned with 2 more non-raid days before mag |
| 01:16.01 | ccKep | we were about to start TK _exactly_ in the week the attunements were removed, shame on that |
| 01:16.06 | NeoTron | so we were really close |
| 01:16.23 | NeoTron | sucks the most was that we took raid nights to run heroics |
| 01:16.41 | ccKep | but TK progression is really good atm |
| 01:16.44 | NeoTron | so I guess vashj is a bit easier these days? |
| 01:16.50 | ccKep | guess it'll stop at kael this week |
| 01:17.07 | Daemona | i miss the "set loot threshold (0)" :( |
| 01:17.19 | ccKep | well, our first vashj kill we used setlooththreshold(0) |
| 01:17.30 | ccKep | that doesn't work anymore, and some people tend to fuck up the basketball game |
| 01:17.44 | NeoTron | I admit I don't fully know how it works |
| 01:17.46 | Daemona | we just made ppl get a macro |
| 01:17.50 | NeoTron | although I suspect next week we should get to her |
| 01:17.58 | Arrowmaster | i hope they change the vashj fight so setlootthreshold(0) can be used again without exploiting it |
| 01:18.01 | ccKep | well, it's rather easy |
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| 01:18.12 | ccKep | if you have a tainted core in your inventory you are paralyzed and can't move |
| 01:18.19 | ccKep | so you have to throw it to someone else |
| 01:18.26 | ccKep | the target is to get it to the 4 pylons around vashj |
| 01:18.36 | NeoTron | max range on the throw? |
| 01:18.36 | ccKep | to deactivate the pylon and start phase3 |
| 01:18.45 | NeoTron | kind of a unique encounter idea heh |
| 01:18.48 | ccKep | dunno, between 30 and 40 yards I'd guess |
| 01:18.54 | ccKep | and depends on line of sight |
| 01:19.10 | NeoTron | and before you could jsut master loot it to whomever by using setlootthreshold |
| 01:19.17 | ccKep | so you need to have someone loot the core at the bottom of the stairs, someone to stand at the top of the stairs due to LoS and someone near the pylons |
| 01:19.26 | ccKep | you could roll on it |
| 01:19.39 | ccKep | setlootthreshold(0) enabled you to roll on gray or better items |
| 01:19.59 | ccKep | so everyone just passed on the core and the person on the pylon rolled need and that was it |
| 01:20.07 | Daemona | ./run function wt(m) t="target" if UnitExists(t) and UnitIsPlayer(t) and UnitIsFriend("player",t) then SendChatMessage(m,"WHISPER",nil,UnitName(t)) end end SLASH_WT1="/wt" SlashCmdList["WT"]=wt |
| 01:20.08 | Daemona | ./use Tainted Core |
| 01:20.08 | Daemona | ./wt YOU GOT THE CORE, TOUCHDOWN! |
| 01:20.56 | ccKep | well, we just use bigwigs |
| 01:21.18 | ccKep | it places a skull above the head if you have a core (in addition to the obvious paralyze debuff one gets......) |
| 01:21.31 | ccKep | had some rather unfunny thing happen last week... |
| 01:21.45 | ccKep | I threw the core to a paladin near the pylons and our ranged DPS pulled a strider onto him ^.^ |
| 01:21.56 | ccKep | which then got blackoutted |
| 01:22.09 | Daemona | with active fear aura |
| 01:22.09 | Azurewrath | ckknight_: you there? |
| 01:22.14 | Daemona | \o/ |
| 01:24.16 | NeoTron | sounds fun |
| 01:24.39 | NeoTron | just as fun as when people don't click their cubes in Mags >:-) |
| 01:25.13 | ccKep | we still wipe on mag due to that |
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| 01:33.15 | ccKep | booooring |
| 01:36.13 | CIA-22 | 03rabbit * r42290 10oRA2/ (5 files in 3 dirs): oRA2: Don't create option groups for modules that only have 1 option. Place them in the top level menu instead. |
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| 01:42.14 | Kep`zZz | n8^ |
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| 01:44.16 | Solstice_[iddqd] | anyone having problems with the updater v.1.9.3? |
| 01:44.17 | Solstice_[iddqd] | <PROTECTED> |
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| 01:54.12 | Hjalte | Does spell hit rating also effect the chances of eg Mind Control breaking? |
| 01:54.27 | vhaarr | yeah |
| 01:54.43 | Hjalte | Oh.. Never knew that. |
| 01:54.44 | CIA-22 | 03rabbit * r42291 10oRA2/ (Core.lua LoadOnDemand.lua): oRA2: Random minor cleanup. |
| 01:55.25 | vhaarr | a MC'ed mob gets a new resist check every heartbeat vs. the player to see if it should break or not |
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| 01:57.02 | CIA-22 | 03arkayenro 07v2beta * r42292 10ArkInventory/ (10 files in 2 dirs): |
| 01:57.02 | CIA-22 | ArkInventory: |
| 01:57.02 | CIA-22 | - v2.00 beta 2007-JUN-30-12-00 |
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| 01:59.52 | Jagobah | Anyone here use Prat? |
| 02:00.05 | vhaarr | just ask |
| 02:02.36 | Azurewrath | mhm.. can someone tell me how to insert plain text into a DogTag, that is only shown if the Tag itself is valid? I tried "Text [Tag]" as described in the documentation, but the "Text" Part is just ignored... |
| 02:03.12 | Azurewrath | e.g. "Level: [Level]" just displays "70" |
| 02:03.40 | duaiwe | Azurewrath: try Text("sometext") maybe? *shrugs* |
| 02:04.01 | Hjalte | Azurewrath, it's a known problem that i think ckknight is fixing at some point :) |
| 02:04.06 | duaiwe | goddamn irc.. |
| 02:04.47 | Azurewrath | Hjalte: ahh.. ok, that explains much.. guess i'll just use TinyTip some more time and stop playing around with CowTip ;) |
| 02:05.16 | aen` | ckknight: ping |
| 02:05.24 | ckknight_ | antiping |
| 02:05.32 | aen` | \estimatedheals.lua:218: attempt ti index field 'healthBar' nil |
| 02:05.54 | ckknight | Azurewrath: probably a race condition. I'll check into it |
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| 02:07.33 | ckknight | mikma: /dump is disabled if DevTools is detected. |
| 02:07.56 | Azurewrath | ckknight: Thx.. oh and is it possible to just collapse lines that don't contain any text atm? |
| 02:08.16 | ckknight | it does that automatically now |
| 02:08.48 | Azurewrath | hum.. i use the latest revision and it doesn't |
| 02:09.19 | Antiarc | Azurewrath: Use Text(WhateverText) |
| 02:09.54 | mikma | ckknight: yeah but it want it gone gone. like it would never ever exist. i don't have devtools loaded but i do have devtoolsdump.lua (which provides me the dump) |
| 02:10.10 | mikma | and, ace2 is overwriting the slashcommand |
| 02:10.26 | ckknight | hrm |
| 02:10.41 | ckknight | okay, I'll try to make it so that it doesn't overwrite if it's detected |
| 02:11.13 | Azurewrath | Antiarc: ah.. it displays the text that way.. but it shows up all the time. |
| 02:11.15 | mikma | thanks. |
| 02:11.27 | Antiarc | [Level?Text(Whatever)][ |
| 02:11.32 | Antiarc | Minus the last [ |
| 02:11.52 | Azurewrath | sounds logical |
| 02:13.06 | Azurewrath | doesn't work though ;) - [Level?Text(Targeting: )][ClassColor][Target] |
| 02:14.58 | Azurewrath | ah.. can't work.. never mind.. i'm to tired.. |
| 02:15.08 | CIA-22 | 03antiarc * r42293 10Omen/ (Omen.lua OmenDisplay.lua OmenThreatBar.lua): Omen: Fixes to today's drycode. Pullout bar grip is missing, don't panic. |
| 02:15.25 | Azurewrath | since level is always true it always display the text.. d'oh |
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| 02:17.14 | Azurewrath | [Target?Text(Targeting: )][ClassColor][Target] works just fine :) |
| 02:19.32 | NightHawkTheSane | Hmm. I need a white board. |
| 02:31.56 | CIA-22 | 03antiarc * r42294 10Omen/ (OmenDisplay.lua OmenMenu.lua OmenThreatBar.lua): Omen: Texture and strata fixes to the pullout bars; fixed the grip. |
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| 02:38.06 | kothz | Stupid, and probably frequently asked, question: should I dl ace? or ace2? I'm just getting started using it. |
| 02:39.10 | hyperChipmunk | kothz: addon writer or user? |
| 02:39.20 | kothz | user |
| 02:39.22 | NightHawkTheSane | Ace2? Unless you're a developer writing an addon, no, probably not. Ace (as in, ace 1)? only if you have an addon that needs it, and at this point, probably not. |
| 02:39.27 | hyperChipmunk | don't need it then |
| 02:39.34 | kothz | cool - thanks :) |
| 02:43.33 | aen` | how do i flush my addons with wau to go from using embedded to non embedded? |
| 02:44.23 | NightHawkTheSane | ctrl-a -> right click -> delete? ;) |
| 02:44.37 | NightHawkTheSane | (mostly kidding.. >.>) |
| 02:44.53 | hyperChipmunk | rm -rf */[Ll]ib* |
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| 02:45.34 | Thorgard | Assessment, Violation and Recount need to track 'mana heals'. ;P |
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| 03:03.59 | starlon | Antiarc, http://starlon.lyrical.net/images/collapsed.jpg |
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| 03:12.13 | Thorgard | starlon, that's.. a really frickin' tiny screenshot. |
| 03:12.37 | hyperChipmunk | i log onto the test realm 5m ago and already 2 /tells asking me where to get free items |
| 03:14.17 | hyperChipmunk | wow, there's only 5 level 70s on |
| 03:14.33 | hyperChipmunk | er, 8 people on the entire realm O_o |
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| 03:21.46 | starlon | Thorgard: :P |
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| 03:37.11 | Antiarc | starlon: Fixed when you upgrade :) |
| 03:37.51 | starlon | Ok |
| 03:38.30 | starlon | Yeah, there's a pulled out bar I can't do shit with too. :\ I keep getting errors in Dewdrop when I'm hovering over it. |
| 03:39.20 | Andune | alright, so I've avoided programming LUA till now (program for a living, I play WoW for fun), but I'm finally looking at going to the dark side.. |
| 03:39.57 | starlon | http://ace.pastey.net/70085 |
| 03:40.03 | Andune | Thinking of extending AEmotes with a few new things. I want to be sure to make things efficient, and I know that's what you guys are all about here :) |
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| 03:42.05 | Andune | So first question, AEmotes has a generic OnEvent, and I notice that for every MSG_SAY, it basically iterates through each artist pack and each message looking for the key words ("* foo blah blip *"). Seems terribly inefficient, whne you could do one check up front for the preceding and trailing * and bail if it doesn't match. |
| 03:43.18 | Andune | So I'm looking to add that check. I've used string.find() to get it working ("^\*", "\*$"), but is that the most efficient way to compare substrings? |
| 03:44.24 | durcyn | aemotes is one of those random stupid addons some random person checked into the svn |
| 03:44.49 | durcyn | i doubt they're here |
| 03:44.52 | Andune | yep, and I always just ignored it. But was playing with it the other night and having a blast with it. So now I want to make it better. |
| 03:45.11 | Andune | I don't care if the author is here. My question is generic LUA string efficiency :) |
| 03:45.33 | durcyn | oh. it's customary to ask permission before touching others addons, is the thing |
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| 03:46.01 | Andune | I don't have SVN access. I'll do local mods for now, make it work for me. If I'm happy with what I've done, I'll seek some mechanism to contribute it back. |
| 03:46.17 | durcyn | there are svn account instructions on the wiki |
| 03:46.26 | durcyn | and i seem to recall there was a forum thread about that addon |
| 03:46.27 | ckknight | starlon: v--- |
| 03:46.57 | Andune | durcyn: I'll check out the forums, good tip. |
| 03:47.17 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r42295 10DewdropLib/Dewdrop-2.0/Dewdrop-2.0.lua: .Dewdrop-2.0 - possible bugfixings. |
| 03:47.19 | ckknight | Andune: http://www.wowace.com/wiki/SVN_Rules |
| 03:49.19 | Andune | well according to the Wiki, I'm doing the right thing. Making local mods that I intend to give to the author to check back in, or at some point get permission from the author to do so myself. |
| 03:50.04 | Andune | So I appreciate all the tips for SVN access. I've got the files from SVN (use SVN a lot) and don't think I need an account just yet. I'll look into that when I get there :) |
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| 03:52.00 | durcyn | ckknight: so i'm still seeing frame tooltips from waterfall, dewdrop et all popping up at the default position after a click, before being moved |
| 03:52.12 | Andune | ckknight: any other reading material to suggest regarding efficient LUA/WoW programming? I've read the Coding_Tips, the LUA manual, but lots of the 'XYZ is most efficient way' of doing things you guys discuss here seems to missing from any references I can find. |
| 03:52.34 | ckknight | Andune: http://www.lua.org/pil |
| 03:52.46 | aen` | anyone play a mage? |
| 03:52.58 | Andune | ckknight: thx, I'll check it out :) |
| 03:53.05 | durcyn | aen`: i've got one laying around somewhere |
| 03:53.15 | aen` | durcyn: i need a grinding spec :P |
| 03:53.37 | durcyn | eh, AM and whatever else you feel like |
| 03:53.43 | durcyn | 18/0/43 is efficient |
| 03:54.05 | durcyn | clearcasting + arcane meditation + mage armor |
| 03:54.14 | aen` | im lvl 15 :P |
| 03:54.19 | durcyn | level more |
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| 03:55.39 | Andune | aen`: My mage is only 40 or so. I found ice to be a good solo grinding tree. |
| 03:56.11 | jme | with the current ora2, if i try to drag the cooldown monitor around, it won't release from the mouse |
| 03:56.21 | durcyn | jme: did you pick it up in combat? |
| 03:56.38 | jme | durcyn: nope |
| 03:57.16 | loonacy | Aren't physical moves still allowed in combat? |
| 03:57.38 | durcyn | just trying to narrow it down. last time it happened to me was in the middle of a kael attempt |
| 03:58.58 | durcyn | jme: try /script OptionalCooldown.cdframe.stopMovingOrSizing(); |
| 04:00.11 | loonacy | Another thing, if you've got BugSack or something similar, check to see if there were any errors while you were moving it. |
| 04:00.11 | durcyn | i'm not 100% on the module namespace at that point, that might be a bit off. did it work? |
| 04:01.19 | loonacy | durcyn: Shouldn't that be a : instead of . between cdframe and stopMovingOrSizing? |
| 04:01.37 | durcyn | oh, yeah. good catch. |
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| 04:01.49 | durcyn | 's what i get for setting my term font small |
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| 04:06.31 | Codayus | hmm, MTs seem broken in the current oRA...? |
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| 04:08.30 | Andune | So which would be more efficient: if( string.sub(s, 1, 1) == "*" ) or if( string.find(x, "^\*") == 1 ) |
| 04:08.55 | jme | durcyn: attempt to index a global 'OptionalCooldown' (a nil value) |
| 04:09.00 | Andune | the first has to allocate a new string and compare. the second assumes an efficient regex engine and compares ints. |
| 04:10.45 | nymbia | Andune: maybe if s:match('^%*')... either that or the sub |
| 04:12.19 | durcyn | yeah, jme, figures that's not the right namespace, hmm |
| 04:12.49 | durcyn | it's self in the oRA2 OptionalCooldown module, i'm not sure what that syntax would be.. acemodule is not my friend |
| 04:12.57 | Andune | nymbia: it looks like match returns the capture (in this case "*"), which would be a newly allocated string. Wouldn't the .find() == 1 save the string allocation and achieve the same result? |
| 04:13.34 | loonacy | Anyone here who uses Pitbull interested in trying my module that adds aggro highlight to the portrait? |
| 04:13.43 | jme | durcyn: ah |
| 04:13.48 | nymbia | Andune: but without the compare, checking for existance is faster than checking for equality |
| 04:14.12 | Hjalte | loonacy, i'd like to try it |
| 04:15.34 | Andune | I'm confused. Checking for existing is basically checking for != nill. Seems like both are a single op to the interpreter. Unless it implements a NILL check instruction that is faster than it's int comparison op? |
| 04:16.04 | Gagorian | AnduinLothar: Ten million loops says s:match is most efficient cpu wise |
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| 04:16.10 | Gagorian | ... Andune |
| 04:16.33 | Andune | ok. I'll take your word for it. I just like to understand why so I can apply that knowledge elsewhere :) |
| 04:16.49 | ckknight | well, my brother finally got engaged to his girlfriend of 5 years |
| 04:17.00 | hyperChipmunk | nobody cares |
| 04:17.13 | AnduinLothar | ? |
| 04:17.18 | AnduinLothar | thats not me |
| 04:17.25 | hyperChipmunk | he meant Andune |
| 04:17.34 | AnduinLothar | ping!!!!! |
| 04:18.15 | ckknight | pong |
| 04:18.21 | Gagorian | AnduinLothar: appologies, tab malfunction! |
| 04:19.15 | Gagorian | Andune: Results of 20 million loops. string.sub 7.89s, string.find 8.11s, s:match 6.765s |
| 04:19.18 | durcyn | jme: if you're in a hurry you can just reloadui to clear it temporarily |
| 04:19.27 | jme | durcyn: yeah that's what i was doing. |
| 04:20.55 | nymbia | Andune: well, the sub(1,1) method may very well be faster, but the reasoning behind avoiding the == 1 check is that it has to evaluate that then check it, vs just checking it with the match. the extra string object won't hurt, you've probably got a '*' in memory anyway |
| 04:20.59 | Andune | gagorian: cool, thanks. I'll go with s:match. I've got a few other efficiency questions, your looping strategy seems like a good way to answer them. |
| 04:21.11 | Andune | any chance you did that in a little test file you can pastey? |
| 04:21.54 | Gagorian | sec |
| 04:22.37 | Andune | nymbia: ah. Global string table and ref counts. Of course. |
| 04:22.55 | Gagorian | http://ace.pastey.net/70086 |
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| 04:23.16 | Andune | nymbia: ok so makes sense, thanks for the explanation. |
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| 04:23.50 | Andune | gagorian: most excellent, thanks! |
| 04:23.56 | Shirik | Gagorian: wtf |
| 04:24.06 | Shirik | local s = "AjfafsjpiasfopOPAFOPjafspjoasfpojfa" |
| 04:24.07 | Shirik | ? |
| 04:24.15 | Gagorian | randomized string |
| 04:24.18 | Shirik | heh |
| 04:24.27 | RogueShadow | Gagorian is good at random? |
| 04:24.31 | RogueShadow | .... night |
| 04:24.41 | Gagorian | I didn't spend much thought at it. Perhaps a bit left keyboard based |
| 04:25.20 | RogueShadow | local s = "o8v235y3w9me r;wli7r" |
| 04:25.58 | RogueShadow | ... oops forgot I was asleep. |
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| 04:27.15 | loonacy | I always spout random strings when i'm asleep, too. |
| 04:27.26 | art3mis | you too? |
| 04:27.52 | Andune | gagorian: interestingly, throwing the * in front of the random string results in the s:sub being faster. But I expect the more common case here to be the non-*, so I'll stick with s:match |
| 04:28.18 | Andune | gagorian: ty again for the code, I'm sure I'll be using a lot :) |
| 04:29.03 | Gagorian | np, it's been very helpful to me (Antiarc gave me the tip) so I like to share :p |
| 04:31.42 | Gagorian | Andune if you want to speed it up a bit more then |
| 04:31.49 | Gagorian | make a local copy of the function |
| 04:32.43 | Gagorian | Andune: Example http://ace.pastey.net/70087 |
| 04:32.51 | Gagorian | about 10%:ish off |
| 04:34.23 | Andune | gagorian: iiiinteerresssting.... so is that common practice then for speeding common, oft-used ops up? |
| 04:34.59 | hyperChipmunk | yes |
| 04:35.11 | Gagorian | Some ace authors use it, to good effect imo |
| 04:36.06 | art3mis | god moving around 200+ gigs of stuff is time consuming |
| 04:36.11 | Andune | seems like, done wrong, it could sacrifice readability. I'll be sure to try to do it right, instead :) |
| 04:36.25 | Andune | gagorian: again, thanks for the tips. very helpful |
| 04:36.42 | art3mis | i wish it was possible to use ghost's imaging algorythms to move from drive to drive |
| 04:36.50 | art3mis | that would be awesome |
| 04:37.12 | Andune | art3mis: use dd? |
| 04:37.43 | art3mis | oh i dont wanna fully image stuff |
| 04:37.58 | art3mis | just wishing it was faster to move chunks of stuff |
| 04:38.05 | art3mis | from drive to drive i mean |
| 04:38.14 | Andune | ah.. yeah then you're stuck paying the penalty of the OS managing the FS as you do the moves :( |
| 04:38.22 | art3mis | nods |
| 04:38.30 | Andune | and not all FS/OS's are equal in that regard :P |
| 04:38.33 | art3mis | wonder why norton hasnt made a "fast" copy type program |
| 04:38.43 | art3mis | based on the ghost stuff i mean |
| 04:39.16 | art3mis | hehe actually thats the reason for the moving stuff around.. reinstalling xp and fedora |
| 04:39.24 | art3mis | although im debating running suse again |
| 04:39.55 | Andune | I just upgraded my workstation to FC7. I like it. |
| 04:40.16 | art3mis | yeah its pretty slick |
| 04:40.19 | Andune | running Ubuntu on the laptop. Also very nice, best Linux-on-laptop experience I've ever had. |
| 04:40.23 | art3mis | once you get everything running right |
| 04:40.56 | art3mis | suse has yast though |
| 04:41.01 | art3mis | and yast is pretty awesome |
| 04:41.27 | art3mis | main problem with fedora is getting ati drivers for the x1950xt to run right |
| 04:41.29 | Andune | Thorgard, sadly, it still suffers from Windows OMG-I-Lost-my-f'ing-brain-syndrome. I think the laptop environment is just so much harder on an OS. |
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| 04:41.48 | art3mis | yeah |
| 04:41.53 | art3mis | but |
| 04:42.03 | Andune | Mac's got it right, tho. My wife uses hers all the time, and I don't think it's EVER crashed on her. And she only reboots it to install patches, which aren't that frequent either. |
| 04:42.18 | art3mis | if the laptop is a eyar or so old going with fbsd custom kernel and tweaked x11 install.... |
| 04:42.27 | art3mis | year |
| 04:42.49 | art3mis | used to run 4.5 fbsd on my thinkpad |
| 04:43.04 | art3mis | but im pretty sure my desktop hardware isnt gonna function right in free. |
| 04:43.08 | Andune | art3mis: yeah video drivers are the achilles heel for Linux. so far beyond your average user, yet so critical for it to work right. |
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| 04:43.34 | art3mis | it's amusing though, under suse 10.2 my x300 was flawless |
| 04:43.41 | art3mis | and HATED my 7100gs |
| 04:43.48 | Andune | heh |
| 04:43.53 | art3mis | err linuxxp was flawless |
| 04:44.04 | art3mis | HATED my x300 in suse 10 because of the xorg 7.1 |
| 04:44.22 | art3mis | the driver that worked with x300 didnt like xorg71 ;) |
| 04:44.28 | art3mis | so i get an nvidia |
| 04:44.36 | art3mis | which doesnt detect right |
| 04:44.41 | art3mis | so i switch to fedora |
| 04:44.50 | art3mis | and it refuses to run 3d |
| 04:44.56 | art3mis | get a new video card |
| 04:45.07 | Andune | heh |
| 04:45.20 | art3mis | so im sitting at the point of do i try and get the ati driver running in fedora or hope that suse10.2 has it support |
| 04:45.23 | art3mis | supported |
| 04:45.38 | durcyn | the problem is with the binary drivers that nvidia and ATI both force people to use. they include their own OpenGL implimentations, and ATI, god bless them, couldn't write proper GL support if you held a gun to their childrens' heads. |
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| 04:45.46 | Andune | I've actually had pretty good luck going to the vendor's sites (ATI or nvidia) and using drivers directly off their sites. |
| 04:45.50 | durcyn | nvidia's sucks far less. |
| 04:45.56 | art3mis | fxgl is nice though |
| 04:45.57 | grennon | i wish i had known about ItemValue before now |
| 04:46.03 | grennon | Pawn kind blows |
| 04:46.27 | Andune | hate the binary driver thing, but at least they work well (or have for me, anyway) |
| 04:46.28 | grennon | if you want to change a scale with it, you edit it with notepad and copy and paste it back into pawn |
| 04:46.36 | durcyn | fglrx? it's better than nothing, but it's not better than nvidia, and it's not better than mesa |
| 04:46.40 | grennon | plus, i set Pawn and ItemValue with the same scales |
| 04:46.46 | kenlyric | durcyn: perhaps we should try that. |
| 04:46.49 | grennon | Pawn adds unactivated socket bonuses |
| 04:46.58 | kenlyric | *the children thing. |
| 04:47.06 | grennon | so if I gem something and dont get the bonus, it is still added to the pawn value |
| 04:47.10 | durcyn | kenlyric: yes, let's. you go first. |
| 04:47.13 | art3mis | durcyn: true, but the new card is better than my nvidia,so im kind of hopign itll go nicely |
| 04:47.34 | art3mis | ubuntu is kde isnt it? |
| 04:47.38 | art3mis | deafult i mean |
| 04:47.40 | art3mis | default |
| 04:47.42 | durcyn | art3mis: well, best of luck. no, ubuntu ships with gnome by default |
| 04:47.46 | art3mis | oh |
| 04:47.49 | art3mis | hrm |
| 04:47.49 | durcyn | if you want kde, that's what kubuntu is all about |
| 04:47.55 | art3mis | i <3 gnome |
| 04:48.06 | durcyn | i knew there was a reason i disliked you. |
| 04:48.07 | art3mis | its just so less gay |
| 04:48.15 | nymbia | you can just get ubuntu and stick kde on i |
| 04:48.16 | nymbia | t |
| 04:48.18 | art3mis | i miss E though |
| 04:48.25 | durcyn | "Gnome: making the same mistakes apple did 20 years ago, and proud of it." |
| 04:48.29 | art3mis | enlightenment was sooo perty |
| 04:48.51 | art3mis | the main thing i dont like about kde is the config |
| 04:49.02 | art3mis | its kind of like cartographer when i think of it |
| 04:49.05 | Thrae | xfce4 ftw! |
| 04:49.09 | art3mis | i just want a windows manager |
| 04:49.23 | art3mis | but i get 1400 other things with it and ALL thier edittable settings |
| 04:49.29 | durcyn | that's why you only install kdebase. |
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| 04:49.42 | art3mis | what is xfce4 btw? |
| 04:49.50 | art3mis | i meant to ask that the other day |
| 04:49.51 | hyperChipmunk | lightweight wm |
| 04:49.56 | durcyn | xfce4's a lightweight GTK+2 environment |
| 04:49.59 | art3mis | how lightweight |
| 04:49.59 | hyperChipmunk | but not a *box |
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| 04:50.12 | hyperChipmunk | lighter than gnome/kde |
| 04:50.18 | durcyn | it runs circles around kde/gnome, yeah. |
| 04:50.23 | art3mis | like fvwm lightweight with nothing in it? |
| 04:50.25 | hyperChipmunk | but tries to be gnomey |
| 04:50.37 | durcyn | hyperChipmunk: well, it's built on gtk, i wouldn't call that "gnomey" |
| 04:50.40 | art3mis | or blackbox lightweight |
| 04:50.41 | durcyn | gimpy, if you want to be technical =P |
| 04:50.48 | hyperChipmunk | well, it's more gnomey than *boxey |
| 04:50.56 | hyperChipmunk | toolbar |
| 04:51.07 | hyperChipmunk | panels |
| 04:51.08 | hyperChipmunk | etc |
| 04:51.50 | art3mis | hrm |
| 04:51.59 | art3mis | so flavour reccomendations? |
| 04:52.09 | art3mis | im kind of bored |
| 04:52.22 | durcyn | distribution or windowmanager? |
| 04:52.27 | art3mis | and you dont like me because i talk alot and im an ass |
| 04:52.29 | art3mis | distro |
| 04:53.00 | durcyn | i use gentoo, personally. but it takes more patience than most have. |
| 04:53.38 | art3mis | what pkgman does it use? |
| 04:53.46 | durcyn | its own, portage. |
| 04:54.05 | art3mis | thats the "sort like a gui'd /usr/ports" isnt it? |
| 04:54.22 | durcyn | no, there's no gui unless you install a third party tool |
| 04:54.28 | art3mis | ooo |
| 04:54.32 | durcyn | it's source-based, like ports |
| 04:54.44 | art3mis | thats the main thing i loved about fbsd |
| 04:54.52 | art3mis | ports is the greetist |
| 04:54.59 | durcyn | but what sold me on it is the dependency tracking. everything, including the base system and kernel, is in the package manager and can be dynamically upgraded without headaches |
| 04:55.04 | Thrae | All of the distros have their own little charm. Gentoo is more about being a perfectionist and a bragger then just having paitenance. There's no reason to compile -everything-. |
| 04:55.20 | durcyn | even if gentoo was binary, i'd still use portage for the dependency management |
| 04:55.25 | durcyn | it makes RPM look like a monkey flinging shit at a wall |
| 04:55.51 | Thrae | I'll agree with you on RPM, but APT has never failed me. I also hear YUM is pretty good. |
| 04:55.56 | art3mis | i like compiling stuff |
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| 04:56.02 | art3mis | yuim is sexy |
| 04:56.04 | Arrowmaster | i have an extreamly serious, and i do mean extreamly serious question...... |
| 04:56.17 | Arrowmaster | who the fuck bots a hunter at level 7 |
| 04:56.24 | art3mis | gliders |
| 04:56.29 | durcyn | apt is solid, as long as you use unstable. debian's release policy makes me cringe. |
| 04:56.55 | Thrae | durcyn: If you don't like Debian's release policy, use the other 23762 distros based on Debian, such as the popular Ubuntu... |
| 04:56.57 | Arrowmaster | this bot is finally up to level 11 now but i keep fucking with it and pull the mobs all around |
| 04:57.11 | durcyn | Thrae: or i could just use gentoo, like i do =P |
| 04:57.29 | Thrae | durcyn: I was saying if you were looking for an APT distro ;) |
| 04:57.31 | Arrowmaster | got a ticket open but it doesnt look like any gms are on |
| 04:57.40 | Thrae | durcyn: Saying APT is based because of Debian makes no sense |
| 04:57.45 | Thrae | s/based/bad/ |
| 04:58.13 | art3mis | welp ill start by reinstalling xp back in a while |
| 04:58.20 | Thrae | My router runs Debian for stability and my server is an Ubuntu LAMP |
| 04:58.20 | durcyn | pretty sure i accused it of being "solid", but since you seem to enjoy being contrary, okay. |
| 04:59.13 | Thrae | durcyn: I wasn't saying you did... |
| 05:00.13 | kenlyric | it's pretty hard to bot before level 10. The basic spells the bots expects don't exist until then, usually. |
| 05:00.42 | kenlyric | hunters are kinda missing something crucial :) |
| 05:01.07 | Thrae | I was just pointing out there are other distros which use APT that don't use Debian's weird-ass release policy. Really, if you use Debian unstable for anything but testing the packages, you probably aren't using Debian correctly. There are other Debian-based distros which have a lot saner testing policies. When Debian is unstable, it is REALLY unstable. And when Debian is stable, it is REALLY stable. |
| 05:01.28 | Thrae | s:saner:varied: |
| 05:02.43 | durcyn | i suppose, but keeping a two-year old version of a package in 'testing' because it doesn't compile on mips or 68k or some obscure arch is.. well, odd. |
| 05:03.34 | Thrae | Hence why Ubuntu and other distros have come up. Debian is all about strict, strict stability, just like Gentoo has a lot of emphasis on performance and detail-oriented customization :) |
| 05:06.36 | Kinkx | Is it possible to play WoW on Linux without fps drop or other issues? |
| 05:07.12 | Kinkx | I guess not.. :[ |
| 05:08.17 | ckknight | not really |
| 05:08.17 | ckknight | in most cases |
| 05:08.18 | ckknight | some people can get equal or higher fps |
| 05:08.21 | ckknight | but it's really dependent on a lot of things |
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| 05:10.25 | Kinkx | Hmm... okie, doesn't sound that bad then :) |
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| 05:12.15 | Kinkx | Think I'll just stick with WinXP for a couple of more years though |
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| 05:25.10 | loonacy | Kinkx: I play in both Windows and Linux, and there's not much of a FPS difference for me. |
| 05:26.22 | loonacy | I use Cedega rather than Wine, not sure about performance but it should be very similar. |
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| 05:29.03 | CIA-22 | 03aiiane * r42297 10Vox/Vox.toc: |
| 05:29.03 | CIA-22 | Vox: |
| 05:29.03 | CIA-22 | - TOC interface update |
| 05:30.13 | ZealotOnAStick | I'm sort of impressed with x264. |
| 05:30.24 | ZealotOnAStick | It's got both processors on a Core2Duo pegged at 97-100% |
| 05:31.18 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r42298 10DogTag-1.0/DogTag-1.0/DogTag-1.0.lua: DogTag-1.0 - fix issue where codes like "Text: [Tag]" wouldn't show the "Text: " part |
| 05:31.35 | ckknight | x264? |
| 05:33.23 | ZealotOnAStick | it's an open source H.264 codec. |
| 05:34.50 | ZealotOnAStick | doing the high-quality encode of the video for our first Vashj kill. |
| 05:34.56 | ckknight | ah, okay |
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| 05:35.48 | ckknight | cool, ZealotOnAStick |
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| 05:50.09 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r42299 10DogTag-1.0/DogTag-1.0/DogTag-1.0.lua: DogTag-1.0 - [Text] can return blank sometimes |
| 05:51.02 | todd | durcyn, thanks for the recommendation on AuldLangSyne, I like it =) |
| 05:51.16 | ckknight | friends are overrated |
| 05:51.37 | CIA-22 | 03hegarol * r42300 10AtlasLoot/Instances/burningcrusade.en.lua: |
| 05:51.37 | CIA-22 | AtlasLoot: |
| 05:51.37 | CIA-22 | - Raid loot upgrade |
| 05:53.18 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r42301 10DogTag-1.0/DogTag-1.0/DogTag-1.0.lua: DogTag-1.0 - add debug method :UnaliasCode("code") |
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| 05:58.44 | Kaelten | <Include file="file.xml" /> |
| 05:58.46 | Kaelten | ? |
| 05:59.32 | nymbia | xml is for scrubs imo! |
| 06:00.02 | Kaelten | :P |
| 06:00.07 | Kaelten | I just can't remember |
| 06:00.12 | Kaelten | and there is a reason why I'm doing this |
| 06:00.29 | aen` | so mage >> frost spec for leveling? |
| 06:00.52 | Keias | You mean fire? |
| 06:00.54 | nymbia | Kaelten: a very minor one, i think |
| 06:01.07 | Kaelten | f? |
| 06:03.04 | aen` | i dunno |
| 06:03.06 | aen` | i made an alt |
| 06:03.10 | aen` | i n eed a good mage level/grind spec |
| 06:04.57 | aen` | anyone wanna help out? |
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| 06:06.47 | Gedgold | Hello, does anyone know the name of the frame of tower capture slider? :) I don't know which addon moved it to center of screen and i'd like to move it away :) |
| 06:06.53 | ckknight | aen`: I don't DPS :-P |
| 06:07.46 | CIA-22 | 03antiarc * r42302 10Omen/ (5 files): |
| 06:07.46 | CIA-22 | Omen: |
| 06:07.46 | CIA-22 | - Added font outlining options |
| 06:07.46 | CIA-22 | - Added a aggro switch timeout if the new aggro holder has less threat than the old. |
| 06:07.46 | CIA-22 | - Polished up pullout bars |
| 06:07.47 | CIA-22 | - Fixed up the aggro gain pullout bar. It now follows whoever is tanking your target. |
| 06:07.49 | CIA-22 | - Pullout bars should now use the default main UI texture as their default texture |
| 06:08.59 | todd | aen`, go frost for levelling |
| 06:09.39 | aen` | for questing and not aoeing? |
| 06:09.59 | todd | for both, actually |
| 06:10.18 | aen` | hmm |
| 06:11.05 | aen` | isnt frost less dps tho? |
| 06:11.17 | todd | yeah, but for soloing, it'll help out a lot |
| 06:11.26 | todd | when you want to dps for instances or raids, fire is better |
| 06:12.01 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r42303 10DogTag-1.0/DogTag-1.0/DogTag-1.0.lua: DogTag-1.0 - properly allow manual unit settings to traverse down to tag parameters when antialiasing, so that [NameRealm#target] will actually work. |
| 06:21.16 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r42304 10DogTag-1.0/DogTag-1.0/DogTag-1.0.lua: DogTag-1.0 - if a manual unit is specified and is a wacky unit (non-blizz event-triggered), then add the "Update" event to the event list for that code. |
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| 06:23.41 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r42305 10CowTip/ (CowTip.lua Text/Text.lua): |
| 06:23.41 | CIA-22 | CowTip - no longer :SetUnit every second, as some addons improperly use |
| 06:23.41 | CIA-22 | UNIT_MOUSEOVER_UPDATE instead of the tooltip's OnTooltipSetUnit, thus making |
| 06:23.41 | CIA-22 | their texts go away after a second. - Improper coding on their part, imho. |
| 06:23.41 | CIA-22 | CowTip_Text - change the Target line to output None if there is no target (so the line shows), also use [NameRealm] now instead of the funkiness I had before. |
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| 06:27.46 | AnduinLothar | wtf are you whining about ckk... OnTooltipSetUnit prolly didn't exist when half those mods were coded |
| 06:28.11 | AnduinLothar | and setting onces a second seems kinda like overkill, neh? |
| 06:28.55 | ckknight | nah, it's a hack that was needed because of the DogTag oddities, lines that have no valuable text aren't created |
| 06:29.04 | ckknight | and therefore if the status changes, those lines need to be added somehow |
| 06:29.27 | ckknight | also, because it didn't exist when those addons were created isn't a good excuse, imho. Backwards compat ftl. |
| 06:29.32 | ckknight | update your mods, guys |
| 06:30.05 | AnduinLothar | what happened to 'if it aint broke..' |
| 06:30.57 | ckknight | it is broken. |
| 06:30.57 | ckknight | that's all |
| 06:31.08 | ckknight | also, I don't like the "if it aint broke" idea, because with that, I mean, we don't need books, we survived before books, eh? |
| 06:31.15 | ckknight | or the printing press |
| 06:31.20 | ckknight | or computers |
| 06:31.25 | AnduinLothar | ahtt's invention, not fixing.... |
| 06:31.27 | ckknight | or automobiles |
| 06:31.29 | AnduinLothar | that* |
| 06:32.02 | ckknight | horses are okay, they're not broken, man |
| 06:32.23 | AnduinLothar | you argument is a logical fallacy. l2argue |
| 06:32.39 | ckknight | the "if it aint broke" mindset can prevent you from using something that is much better |
| 06:32.46 | ckknight | also, I don't see the fallacy |
| 06:33.37 | AnduinLothar | the invention of the automobile is in no way related to a code change in wow allowing for a frame script to do the same thing as an event |
| 06:33.57 | ckknight | it's a better, more direct way to handle the situation |
| 06:33.59 | Lyfe | well, actually, before books, stories would change, therefore storytelling was broken. before the printing press, mas distribution was broken.. before the automobile, long-distance travel in places without rails was broken. very slow, limited luggage... |
| 06:34.19 | AnduinLothar | that's not broken. |
| 06:34.21 | ckknight | whereas people were using UNIT_MOUSEOVER_UPDATE, which is only indirectly related to the tooltip |
| 06:34.28 | AnduinLothar | your definition of broken is broken |
| 06:34.36 | ckknight | and your mom's broken |
| 06:34.37 | Lyfe | perhaps. :) |
| 06:34.39 | ckknight | so there. |
| 06:34.40 | ckknight | bam! |
| 06:34.45 | AnduinLothar | broken != not bleeding edge |
| 06:35.01 | ckknight | sometimes you gotta get cut |
| 06:35.11 | ckknight | and the sweet delectable pain... |
| 06:35.12 | ckknight | mmm.... |
| 06:35.21 | Lyfe | ok, how about flawed then? |
| 06:35.26 | AnduinLothar | ok, but whining about other people not being bleeding edge is asking for a whaleslap |
| 06:36.24 | ckknight | hey, I can whaleparry |
| 06:36.33 | AnduinLothar | do you use vista? |
| 06:36.49 | AnduinLothar | cause if not... you're broken. |
| 06:37.01 | Kyahx | vista sucks |
| 06:37.20 | AnduinLothar | and so does ckknight's mom |
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| 06:38.06 | Lyfe | vista solves something that's broken? |
| 06:38.33 | Lyfe | far as i knew, it just drained wallets. |
| 06:38.33 | AnduinLothar | according to ckk, if it's not bleeding edge it's broken |
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| 06:39.31 | Lyfe | says the man who made the analogy. |
| 06:40.42 | Lyfe | sorry, i'm just being an antagonist now. :) |
| 06:41.52 | ckknight | AnduinLothar: you know I'm a mac user |
| 06:41.54 | ckknight | just like you |
| 06:42.06 | ckknight | we both went to the secret cult meeting, remember? |
| 06:42.07 | Lyfe | you are? |
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| 06:42.29 | ckknight | Lyfe: I am, I know AL is |
| 06:42.45 | Jaxon | I am as well, but I don't count. |
| 06:42.47 | Lyfe | for a minute i thought you were being sarcastic. |
| 06:43.10 | cogwheel | that explains why you two are so opinionated :P |
| 06:43.24 | cogwheel | (meant with <3 to both ;) ) |
| 06:43.34 | ckknight | I'm opinionated because that's just who I am |
| 06:43.40 | ckknight | I have a mac for purely pragmatic reasons |
| 06:43.43 | ckknight | also, it's shiny |
| 06:43.44 | Lyfe | i'm a mac user, i don't believe myself to be terribly opinionated.. just biased in my favor. |
| 06:43.49 | kergoth | yay shiny |
| 06:43.54 | ckknight | lol |
| 06:43.55 | Lyfe | mmm, shiny. |
| 06:44.05 | cogwheel | my shiniest thing is my KRZR |
| 06:44.13 | Lyfe | iphone is shiny too.. i want one so bad. |
| 06:44.43 | ckknight | there are a lot of mac users in this channel, actually |
| 06:44.49 | ckknight | cogwheel: ? |
| 06:44.54 | kergoth | argh, i hate you, mingw32 |
| 06:45.37 | ckknight | I find it absurd now when people don't consider a mac when buying a new computer |
| 06:45.39 | cogwheel | ckknight: http://reviews.cnet.com/cell-phones/motorola-krzr-k1m-verizon/4505-6454_7-31987124.html |
| 06:45.49 | cogwheel | I don't because i build mine... |
| 06:45.52 | ckknight | bah, you kids and your "cell" phones |
| 06:45.55 | Lyfe | they are very very nice machines. |
| 06:45.56 | MentalPower | ckknight: if you think Backwards Compat FTL, then why don't you break Ace2 at every revision? |
| 06:46.16 | cogwheel | ckknight: If you knew me irl, that would be an incredibly ironic thing to say >< |
| 06:46.18 | Lyfe | hah. the iphone is barely a phone. |
| 06:46.34 | ckknight | MentalPower: lol, I do, I just usually have other people to fix my mistakes |
| 06:46.40 | MentalPower | s/break Ace2/break the Ace2 API/ |
| 06:46.48 | ckknight | MentalPower: they don't let me break it as much as I want |
| 06:46.55 | kergoth | no no, breaking it at every revision would be too predicatble, he'd rather break it randomly instead |
| 06:46.57 | ckknight | MentalPower: but I do change it quietly now and again |
| 06:47.05 | ckknight | hush hush and all that |
| 06:47.17 | ckknight | cogwheel: how so? |
| 06:47.53 | Lyfe | ok, i have to ask, what do you use on your mac for keeping your addons up to date? (or do you do it manually?) |
| 06:48.03 | ckknight | svn --ignore-externals up |
| 06:48.06 | cogwheel | I have a 500 minute/month contract, and it ended. I've had this account for 2 years and probably didn't use 500 minutes the whole time :P |
| 06:48.11 | cogwheel | no text messages either |
| 06:48.19 | Lyfe | ... eww. |
| 06:48.29 | ckknight | cogwheel: I have a $20 phone |
| 06:48.32 | ckknight | don't need anything more |
| 06:48.42 | cogwheel | so when it expired, they offered me a free phone for extending the contract |
| 06:48.45 | Lyfe | i have a $20 phone as well.. but i damn want an iphone. :) |
| 06:49.10 | cogwheel | actually, they offered me a month free for extending a year but I thought that was just stupid so i looked for a better deal :P |
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| 06:49.51 | cogwheel | The damned thing does come in handy sometimes though... Had to call 911 once when I saw another car drive off a short cliff :S |
| 06:50.57 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r42306 10CowTip/Text/Text.lua: CowTip_Text - update the texts every second, through massive hacks and without calling :SetUnit. This allows for the arbitrary addition/removal of lines again. |
| 06:51.00 | MentalPower | o.O |
| 06:51.08 | AnduinLothar | LOL |
| 06:51.15 | AnduinLothar | did you just revert that change? |
| 06:51.27 | AnduinLothar | oh nm |
| 06:51.29 | AnduinLothar | misread |
| 06:52.02 | xystic | Does /script SendAddonMessage("KLHTM", "t 1000000", "PARTY") still work? |
| 06:52.07 | ckknight | yea. |
| 06:52.13 | ckknight | this is better: |
| 06:52.52 | ckknight | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:53.05 | xystic | If Ace isn't installed? |
| 06:53.07 | ckknight | sending to "RAID" if you're in a party goes to the "PARTY" channel automatically, which is nice |
| 06:53.17 | ckknight | xystic: well, you could use frames... |
| 06:53.20 | ckknight | which'd be annoying |
| 06:53.22 | ckknight | but doable |
| 06:53.24 | ckknight | : |
| 06:53.45 | xystic | But the former should work if Ace isn't installed right? |
| 06:53.57 | ckknight | yea |
| 06:54.04 | ckknight | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:54.07 | ckknight | okay, that sends it every frame |
| 06:54.12 | AnduinLothar | or grab Chronos to do the same thing, just to be rebelous |
| 06:54.14 | ckknight | which creates a lot of garbage |
| 06:54.29 | ckknight | lot of excess traffic, that is |
| 06:55.06 | MentalPower | whats t? |
| 06:55.17 | MentalPower | in the klhtm protocol |
| 06:55.21 | ckknight | the command to set your own threat |
| 06:55.32 | MentalPower | lol |
| 06:55.48 | xystic | Hm, it's weird... I'm trying /script SendAddonMessage("KLHTM", "t 1000000", "RAID") and there's no visible change on the threat meter at all |
| 06:56.14 | ckknight | xystic: it doesn't change on your own, it ignores self messages |
| 06:56.21 | ckknight | on your party's, it'll change |
| 06:56.34 | ckknight | so basically, if you do my line, it'll show on your friends' meters as though you're going back and forth randomly, and their meter will be freaking out basically |
| 06:56.43 | ckknight | and it'll be like: zomg, KLHTM is teh borked |
| 06:57.13 | CIA-22 | 03arkayenro 07v2beta * r42307 10ArkInventory/ (ArkInventory.lua ArkInventoryRules.lua ReadMe.txt): |
| 06:57.13 | CIA-22 | ArkInventory: |
| 06:57.13 | CIA-22 | - itemrack functionality |
| 06:57.25 | AnduinLothar | wha? |
| 06:57.26 | xystic | Ah, ok... thanks. :) |
| 06:57.30 | AnduinLothar | itemrack? |
| 06:57.45 | AnduinLothar | so like.... bars? or... swapping? |
| 06:57.53 | Jaxon | AnduinLothar: Gello's awesome Equipset manager. |
| 06:57.55 | AnduinLothar | custom bag events O.o ? |
| 06:58.01 | AnduinLothar | no..... i knwo that |
| 06:58.20 | Jaxon | Probably just sorting |
| 06:58.25 | AnduinLothar | how is ArkInv gaining "itemrack functionality" |
| 06:58.31 | AnduinLothar | sorting? |
| 06:58.40 | AnduinLothar | i didn't even know itemrack did sorting.. |
| 06:59.00 | AnduinLothar | thought that was outfitter |
| 06:59.00 | Jaxon | Set bags for ItemRack sets. |
| 06:59.06 | AnduinLothar | oooh |
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| 07:00.21 | AnduinLothar | so like baggins? |
| 07:00.26 | AnduinLothar | or bank manager |
| 07:00.40 | Jaxon | Maybe? |
| 07:00.44 | Jaxon | I don't know, I'm just guessing. |
| 07:01.01 | AnduinLothar | seems liek somehting that coulda used mroe splaining |
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| 07:02.09 | CIA-22 | 03nemes * r42308 10NShakedown/ (Addons/MSBT.lua NShakedown.toc): NShakedown: add support for Mik's Scrolling Battle Text |
| 07:02.35 | ckknight | Nemes_: what's NShakedown? |
| 07:03.15 | Nemes_ | started as a macro and grew... displays all the volatile stuff on your screen, so that you can make sure it doesn't all overlap |
| 07:03.27 | ckknight | volatile? |
| 07:03.31 | Nemes_ | I got sick of SCT displaying over raid warnings |
| 07:03.58 | Nemes_ | http://www.wowace.com/wiki/NShakedown |
| 07:04.00 | Nemes_ | piccies there |
| 07:04.45 | ckknight | <--- considering making my own floating combat text addon |
| 07:05.03 | rubik | anyone familiar with eePanels? just installed it and getting errors trying to toggle locking back on |
| 07:05.12 | Nemes_ | will it use dogtag? |
| 07:05.32 | ckknight | Nemes_: honestly, not sure yet, I doubt it, cause the scope is so different. |
| 07:05.58 | Nemes_ | SCT is good, but getting on a bit |
| 07:06.04 | ckknight | it'd basically be super-modular and steal all the best features from SCT and MSBT |
| 07:06.18 | Nemes_ | I just used mik's for the first time then and discovered it's not bad at all |
| 07:06.20 | ckknight | and also not be locked and uneditable like some addons are |
| 07:07.01 | Nemes_ | SCT is editable... you just have to edit... the LUA config file |
| 07:07.20 | Nemes_ | so every time I get a new version I have to reapply my preferences |
| 07:07.33 | ckknight | Nemes_: I can't fix things on the wowace svn |
| 07:07.39 | ckknight | which is the main point of having an svn |
| 07:07.40 | ckknight | imho |
| 07:07.47 | Nemes_ | ? |
| 07:07.49 | ckknight | I want hackability |
| 07:08.07 | Nemes_ | I don't get you... |
| 07:08.10 | ckknight | Nemes_: I can't change anything in sct, since I have no commit rights |
| 07:08.11 | rubik | http://ace.pastey.net/70091 -- does that look like an eePanels error or a Dewdrop error? |
| 07:08.24 | ckknight | and when I send a patch to Greyhoof, it either takes forever or never happens |
| 07:08.30 | Nemes_ | well... it is greyhoof's project |
| 07:08.43 | ckknight | yea, so? I like to fix things. |
| 07:08.44 | Nemes_ | and he's not, uh, receptive to suggestions to change, as I've found out |
| 07:08.52 | ckknight | right, which is bad for karma |
| 07:09.03 | ckknight | rubik: eePanels |
| 07:09.12 | CIA-22 | 03nargiddley * r42309 10Baggins/ (Baggins-Filtering.lua Baggins.lua): Baggins: Add signals for items matching categories. Rework of section filtering to use the signals. |
| 07:09.17 | rubik | ckknight: ty |
| 07:09.31 | ckknight | alright, I'm gonna watch Hostel 2 |
| 07:13.19 | CIA-22 | 03sayclub * r42310 10Omen/localization_koKR.lua: Omen: koKR Update |
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| 07:29.29 | CIA-22 | 03nemes * r42311 10NShakedown/Addons/MSBT.lua: NShakedown: add support for Mik's Scrolling Battle Text |
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| 07:29.54 | CIA-22 | 03nemes * r42312 10NShakedown/ (Addons/ClassTimer.lua NShakedown.toc): NShakedown: add support for ClassTimer |
| 07:36.44 | Fisker- | http://img.4chan.org/b/src/1183188989909.jpg |
| 07:36.45 | Fisker- | lol |
| 07:38.35 | Neebler | so I heard you like mudkips fisker |
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| 07:39.46 | Fisker- | indeed Neebler |
| 07:40.16 | Punkie` | is that a picture of your fisker? |
| 07:40.23 | Fisker- | no |
| 07:40.42 | Fisker- | If it was i would've jumped of a cliff |
| 07:40.51 | Fisker- | Table Computer > iPhone |
| 07:41.16 | Punkie` | I would have an iPhone for fre |
| 07:41.17 | Punkie` | e |
| 07:43.19 | Fisker- | sure i could go with it for free as well |
| 07:43.27 | Fisker- | Then i could destroy it and get another one for free |
| 07:44.09 | Fisker- | hai guys should I get this or a PS3 instead? |
| 07:44.10 | Fisker- | hahah |
| 07:45.36 | Punkie` | you would rather destroy it that make profit? |
| 07:47.09 | Fisker- | If i destroy it apple will use money on giving me a new one |
| 07:49.28 | Punkie` | but if you sell it they will still use money giving you a money and you will get profit! |
| 07:51.11 | CIA-22 | 03punkie * r42313 10ClassTimer/Locales/zhCN.lua: ClassTimer: Fixed znCN locale |
| 07:51.23 | Fisker- | well Punkie` i can destroy it, get a new one and THEN sell it |
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| 07:52.08 | ckknight | but why? |
| 07:55.26 | Bver | hey are there any Arena frames people are working on? |
| 07:56.11 | Bver | or does anyone know a good arena frame? :P |
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| 07:57.07 | Iceroth | Gladiator? Proximo? |
| 08:01.12 | Iceroth | a side note to msbt / sct discussion: one of the nicests features in msbt is the ability to create own triggers, like when chat_msg_spell_hostileplayer_damage contains a string "Hibernate" or "Scare Beast" i get huge text in the middle of my screen that says it would be a good time to shift out |
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| 08:05.51 | ckknight | Iceroth: if and when I make my own combat text addon, the filters will be much more...intuitive |
| 08:05.54 | ckknight | no dealing with events |
| 08:06.02 | ckknight | more dealing with filter systems |
| 08:06.25 | Iceroth | yeah not saying the implementation is the best there is but it gets the work done and i love the outcome |
| 08:08.01 | Iceroth | there are some other little quircks in msbt as well, for example when going to the "scroll area edit more", why won't a click to the scroll area select it from the config panel as well as the active bar |
| 08:08.14 | Iceroth | *edit mode even |
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| 08:16.21 | Fisker- | http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=6VdNcCcweL0 <-haha |
| 08:16.21 | Fisker- | this is awesome |
| 08:16.22 | Fisker- | whoever did that should win a medal |
| 08:16.32 | Iceroth | eh, how come i've never seen this gem before: http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info7231-Align.html |
| 08:16.47 | Fisker- | because you suck :( |
| 08:16.58 | Fisker- | pretty nice addon btw :P |
| 08:17.12 | Fisker- | used it myself when setting up addons with a bit more symmetry |
| 08:18.26 | kebinusan | fisker, that is awesome |
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| 08:20.00 | Nemes_ | does Align actually snap frames to the grid, or just provide the overlay? |
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| 08:20.22 | Fisker- | just the overlay |
| 08:20.54 | Nemes_ | I'd love a "snap to" frame modifier, that lets you snap to a grid, or to other frames |
| 08:21.36 | Jaxon | Doesn't SnaptoGrid still work? |
| 08:21.46 | Nemes_ | haha never even heard of that one... |
| 08:22.04 | Jaxon | http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/fileinfo.php?id=4948 |
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| 08:22.38 | Nemes_ | nice... |
| 08:23.35 | Jaxon | Set a hotkey, hold down the hotkey before and while you drag frames around |
| 08:24.01 | CIA-22 | 03toadkiller * r42314 10cyCircled/plugins/AutoBar.lua: |
| 08:24.01 | CIA-22 | cyCircled: |
| 08:24.01 | CIA-22 | - Remove obsolete property setting |
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| 08:41.28 | Mech0z | Antiarc there is some misdirection bug if your not aware of it, pretty often when I misdirect my pet it dont add the threat to my pet but just to me :/ |
| 08:41.33 | Mech0z | not everytime though |
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| 08:50.34 | abbat | good day guys |
| 08:51.29 | abbat | Can someone help me find how i can change position of Bartender3 hotkey text |
| 08:51.34 | abbat | please |
| 08:52.00 | abbat | I setup cyCircled:Vol and hotkey text run out of buttons |
| 08:52.30 | abbat | Want to move it left and down a bit |
| 08:53.48 | abbat | found ;) |
| 08:56.13 | abbat | fine now. |
| 08:56.37 | abbat | But maybe someone know where i can change font used for hotkey & count text? |
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| 09:00.44 | QQngsk | is there any way to remove the dragonmaw illusion? |
| 09:00.56 | abbat | no |
| 09:01.01 | QQngsk | whack |
| 09:01.07 | QQngsk | can't help some nubs kill zuluhad then? |
| 09:01.15 | ckknight | well, Hostel 2 was okay |
| 09:01.21 | abbat | yep, you can't |
| 09:01.26 | QQngsk | bogus |
| 09:01.36 | ckknight | kinda meh, though |
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| 09:02.36 | abbat | hmm... |
| 09:02.51 | abbat | i think bt3 uses default font for hotkeys/count |
| 09:03.04 | abbat | can i change this font global? |
| 09:03.10 | abbat | font and size |
| 09:05.42 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r42315 10CowTip/Text/Text.lua: CowTip_Text - bugfix |
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| 09:08.07 | Neebler | just installed cowtip. It reminds me of PitBull on initial release |
| 09:08.56 | kebinusan | too many options for me atm, eventually I'll take the time to figure out how to get the info I want out of it |
| 09:09.08 | ckknight | Neebler: how so? |
| 09:09.16 | Neebler | very basic and simplistic |
| 09:09.26 | kebinusan | tinytip just works, though Im sure I'll figure it out |
| 09:09.29 | ckknight | lol, yea, I want to keep it that way |
| 09:09.29 | Neebler | not that it's a bad thing |
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| 09:09.41 | ckknight | I want it to stay simple |
| 09:09.44 | ckknight | but still be powerful |
| 09:09.45 | Neebler | Do you have a planned feature list or To Do? |
| 09:09.52 | kebinusan | the tooltips are a bit massive by default |
| 09:09.56 | ckknight | Neebler: most of it has been completed already |
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| 09:10.15 | ckknight | Neebler: I think all that's left is like the raid target icon and bugfixes |
| 09:10.34 | Neebler | ah. well could you impliment sharedmedia support for the health/power bars, along with options for colors/borders |
| 09:11.07 | ckknight | yea, probably should |
| 09:11.17 | ckknight | SharedMedia stuff is already interwoven in other aspects |
| 09:11.28 | ckknight | colors/borders for what? |
| 09:12.02 | kebinusan | hostility coloring of border/background or class coloring of the same |
| 09:12.05 | Neebler | well the default background color is dark blue, cannot change that currently. I'd like to lighten the transparency on it also, as an option |
| 09:12.08 | kebinusan | or difficulty even |
| 09:12.26 | kebinusan | if it doesnt have that, I dunno I admit I havent played with it for more than 30 seconds |
| 09:12.37 | ckknight | hostility coloring is in |
| 09:12.39 | abbat | kebinusan, to many options. i think later ckk rebuild menu structure like in PitBull |
| 09:12.45 | ckknight | Neebler: um, you can definitely change that. |
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| 09:12.50 | ckknight | Neebler: under Appearance |
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| 09:12.59 | ckknight | abbat: I already changed the menu to make more sense |
| 09:13.00 | Neebler | oh durr |
| 09:14.10 | abbat | hmm... |
| 09:14.28 | abbat | it is possible to make DogTag tag with font style? |
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| 09:14.47 | ckknight | abbat: you can change it to do Outline/ThickOutline |
| 09:14.51 | ckknight | but nothing besides that. |
| 09:14.53 | abbat | like [Name:Font:Skurri] for example? |
| 09:14.58 | ckknight | no |
| 09:15.03 | Hjalte | Kaelten, "Vendor charges" and "vendor pays" are reversed in latest KC_Items, r42262. |
| 09:15.13 | ckknight | abbat: but under Appearance, you can change the font to whatever you want |
| 09:15.19 | abbat | ckk, yeah. tonight half of my guild change his unit frames to pitbull ;) |
| 09:15.38 | ckknight | oh, PitBull |
| 09:15.45 | ckknight | yea, the font stuff is under Global Options |
| 09:16.21 | abbat | ppl ask me how to make ui like nurfed etc =) |
| 09:16.35 | abbat | Btw guys |
| 09:16.50 | abbat | tonight also i discovered great arena addon - Proximo |
| 09:16.56 | CIA-22 | 03nargiddley * r42316 10Baggins/Baggins.lua: Baggins: Do own bucketing of BAG_UPDATE to stop a memory leak when re-registering |
| 09:17.18 | abbat | It's do same what ArenaLiveFrames / ArenaMaster do but Proximo have nice looking ui |
| 09:17.21 | Monolit | can anyone help me a bit why does /changeactionbar [actionbar:3] 2 macro is not switching bar3 page to bar2? Is there any mistakes in it? |
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| 09:20.00 | Neebler | hmmm Ckknight ever think of making a DogTag GUI? Which would display commands in lamens terms along with an example |
| 09:20.01 | abbat | sigh |
| 09:20.11 | ckknight | Neebler: go to the wiki |
| 09:20.14 | Neebler | would go nice with cowtip/pitbull/ and any other addon that uses dogtag |
| 09:20.17 | Neebler | yes I know about the wiki |
| 09:20.17 | abbat | update my addons and again loose AnyUp fix in bartender ;( |
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| 09:20.25 | Neebler | but alt tabbing when editing an addon is kinda annoying |
| 09:20.32 | abbat | =) |
| 09:20.34 | ckknight | Neebler: yea... |
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| 09:20.50 | Neebler | I personally have no problem with it. But I know theirs lots out there that are too lazy to go to the wiki |
| 09:20.54 | abbat | Hehe ;) |
| 09:20.55 | Hjalte | That's why you play windowed :D |
| 09:20.57 | Neebler | So I'm just suggesting a simple GUI |
| 09:21.09 | abbat | I think no one developer don't like to make GUI ;) |
| 09:21.16 | abbat | no |
| 09:21.27 | abbat | every developer hate making GUI ;) |
| 09:22.01 | CIA-22 | 03nemes * r42317 10NShakedown/ (5 files in 2 dirs): NShakedown: Add ElkBuffBars, Hourglass, Incubator. Fix toggle menu item text/desc on deactivate while active. |
| 09:22.08 | abbat | take to much time, required many many hours for coding / testing etc ;) |
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| 09:25.33 | moonsorrow | ckknight: having some pre-defined themes would be very nice for cowtip, so switching the tooltip addon for people would be way easier. |
| 09:26.17 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r42318 10CowTip/ (HealthBar/HealthBar.lua PowerBar/PowerBar.lua): CowTip - add statusbar texture options to PowerBar and HealthBar |
| 09:26.30 | Hjalte | Nargiddley, <3 new boe rule in Baggins. I used to have one, but then i wiped my entire bag layout by switching style :p |
| 09:26.41 | Leialyn | moonsorrow: the default tooltip displayes everything, so people can just delete stuff they don't want |
| 09:27.00 | Neebler | a text% on the health/power bars would be nice, along with a background to them. |
| 09:27.09 | Neebler | for cowtip that is |
| 09:27.13 | ckknight | ugh |
| 09:27.16 | ckknight | you do it |
| 09:27.21 | Neebler | ^_^ |
| 09:27.27 | moonsorrow | Leialyn: but not in the way they are used to it, like TinyTip or TipBuddy |
| 09:27.40 | Leialyn | lazy people ;) |
| 09:28.00 | Neebler | I'm not lazy, I'm just ignorant and stupid. don't know how to code LUA |
| 09:28.20 | ckknight | frankly, I don't care what people are "used to" |
| 09:28.23 | Neebler | altho I know how to make a pretty nice UI and make useful suggestions |
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| 09:29.08 | Hjalte | It would be nice with some different templates for Cowtip - So that lazy people could get their tinytip fix :p |
| 09:29.16 | Neebler | well as is, the health/power bars are hard to read. It's not that I'm "used to" it |
| 09:29.58 | Neebler | there's no point of reference on them to tell a percentage, especially when the width of the tooltips fluxuate depending on player name |
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| 09:35.59 | Hjalte | Can anyone explain why my wow sometimes suddenly looks like this: www.hjalte.com/WoWScrnShot_063007_025100.jpg Happens only when i am in a party. |
| 09:36.18 | Hjalte | Reloading my UI fixes it, but it is still well annoying. |
| 09:36.29 | Zurks | erm, dunno |
| 09:36.47 | Zurks | Looks like some really buggered up viewport or something |
| 09:41.13 | Hjalte | Zurks, I don't use any viewport addon. |
| 09:42.15 | dRiN | I have had bad updating lately with Wau, some exceptions that keep showing up. Should I start using wau2? |
| 09:44.52 | abbat_w | huh |
| 09:45.05 | abbat_w | nevcairiel! help! |
| 09:46.57 | abbat_w | moonsorrow, and sure, one themes should look like tinytip. we, users, won't make global changes at begin :) |
| 09:47.25 | Hjalte | dRiN, you could try wau2 and see if the problems go away :) |
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| 09:50.14 | Shyde | Hjalte I'm getting the same graphic bug sometimes |
| 09:50.31 | Hjalte | You also using Pitbull party frames? |
| 09:50.34 | Shyde | yes |
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| 09:50.47 | Shyde | and I suspect them too :) |
| 09:50.50 | Hjalte | Hmm. |
| 09:51.11 | Hjalte | Maybe there's a fix for it in the 2.1.3 changes |
| 09:55.16 | dRiN | just checked out wau2, looks pretty : ) |
| 09:55.19 | dRiN | and works just fine! |
| 09:55.37 | dRiN | thanks once more for structure and order : ) |
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| 10:06.06 | Zurks | WAU2 is pretty damn cool. |
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| 10:23.40 | Matrix110 | Wiki dead? :-( |
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| 10:25.22 | Matrix110 | forum aswell it seems:-( |
| 10:29.16 | Awaa | wiki is up, just awefuly slow |
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| 10:32.54 | Matrix110 | Ill get timeouts all the time |
| 10:33.09 | Matrix110 | ah |
| 10:33.12 | Matrix110 | now its working again |
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| 10:38.21 | SpiderFLS | hi |
| 10:38.43 | SpiderFLS | does someone know how to calculate base mana? |
| 10:38.50 | CIA-22 | 03nemes * r42319 10NShakedown/Addons/ (5 files): NShakedown: add anchor hide/show to Antagonist, DoTimer/Cooldowns, BigWigs, HotCandy |
| 10:39.01 | Nemes_ | int * 15 + level base? |
| 10:39.18 | Nemes_ | http://www.wowwiki.com/Base_Mana |
| 10:39.52 | SpiderFLS | and whats the level base? |
| 10:39.53 | CIA-22 | 03damjau * r42320 10Prat/Prat_Modules/modules/AltNames.lua: Prat: add and fix koKR locals |
| 10:40.10 | Nemes_ | they are hard coded constants |
| 10:40.17 | Nemes_ | depending on level |
| 10:40.28 | Nemes_ | have a poke around on wowwiki and you'll find a table somewhere I'm sure |
| 10:41.26 | Matrix110 | hmmm |
| 10:41.30 | Matrix110 | why aint this working [Guild:IsEqual([Guild#player])?Green:IsNotEqual([Guild#player])?Cyan] [Guild:Angle] |
| 10:41.44 | CIA-22 | 03nemes * r42321 10NShakedown/ (AddonBase.lua NShakedown.lua): NShakedown: Check if LOD is loadable and enabled, before adding to list. Add enable / disable all option to main menu. |
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| 10:41.51 | Matrix110 | It should color the name of guilds(that isnt mine) in Cyan and my guild in Green |
| 10:42.27 | Mellow_ | im not a lua programmer, but ([Guild#player]) |
| 10:42.45 | Mellow_ | is it okay? |
| 10:42.50 | Matrix110 | got it to work now |
| 10:42.52 | Matrix110 | but different |
| 10:43.09 | Matrix110 | [Guild:IsEqual([Guild#player])?Green][Guild:IsNotEqual([Guild#player])?Cyan] [Guild:Angle] |
| 10:43.10 | Matrix110 | works |
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| 10:47.50 | ckknight | ick, no |
| 10:48.14 | ckknight | [Guild?IsEqual([Guild#player])?Green!Cyan][Guild:Angle] |
| 10:49.40 | Matrix110 | well mine works here Oo |
| 10:49.40 | Argolas | I've a problem with KC_Mobility. when I drag a frame and logout the frame return to the original position after relog in wow |
| 10:49.45 | Matrix110 | but i take yours:P |
| 10:49.49 | Matrix110 | looks nicer |
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| 10:54.05 | SpiderFLS | hmm cant find anything on this level base for base mana on wowwiki... |
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| 10:54.55 | Nemes_ | SpiderFLS: try ctprofiles - I know they were collecting that data when they were first setting the site up |
| 10:55.36 | Matrix110 | ctprofiles doesnt exist anymore |
| 10:55.55 | Nemes_ | wow... never knew that... |
| 10:56.08 | Nemes_ | is CT dead? they don't seem to have updated any of the addons for a long time |
| 10:56.15 | Matrix110 | not sure |
| 10:56.31 | Matrix110 | but cide is still coding atleast |
| 10:56.38 | Matrix110 | hes sometimes here aswell |
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| 10:57.52 | SpiderFLS | so how can i find out what those constants are? |
| 10:58.20 | Nemes_ | have a look in addons like drdamage or ratingbuster - maybe they have tables with that stuff there? |
| 10:58.24 | Nemes_ | also maybe regenfu |
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| 10:58.52 | Matrix110 | for what should regenfu have them? |
| 10:59.05 | Matrix110 | (iam not sure what new functions it got since it stopped using it) |
| 10:59.12 | Nemes_ | regen for oomkins and shamans? |
| 10:59.23 | Nemes_ | I'm guessing here... |
| 10:59.44 | SpiderFLS | shaman dont reg from the amount of mana... |
| 11:00.00 | Nemes_ | pewpew ones do |
| 11:00.22 | Nemes_ | zomglightningoverload!!!111!!! |
| 11:01.12 | SpiderFLS | ? |
| 11:01.32 | Nemes_ | elemental shamans get mana regen as a percentage of their int I believe |
| 11:01.35 | SpiderFLS | i dont see how this talent has anything to do with base mana.... |
| 11:01.55 | Nemes_ | anyway.... I'm just throwing ideas out there for you to try |
| 11:03.06 | SpiderFLS | yes thats nice and all but i dont feel like reading tons of code if its just a guess that there could be something like that... |
| 11:03.40 | Nemes_ | if you didn't find anything on the wowwiki site, maybe you could try trawling through the priest wow forum - priests are all into theorycraft |
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| 11:04.39 | SpiderFLS | well i already searched the forums for base mana posts but there are about 5 posts or so and none of em gives any information on calculation:/ |
| 11:04.54 | Matrix110 | ckknight [Guild?IsEqual([Guild#player])?Green!Cyan][Guild:Angle] =producing weird things:P ill use mine again! |
| 11:05.08 | Matrix110 | orwell |
| 11:05.11 | Matrix110 | i got the mistake |
| 11:05.14 | Matrix110 | its : instead of ? |
| 11:05.42 | ckknight | oh, yea |
| 11:06.33 | SpiderFLS | if i know my acctual base mana and my int and mana without any talents or items i should be able to find this constant? |
| 11:07.03 | SpiderFLS | or do i need this data on evry level? |
| 11:07.33 | Nemes_ | the base changes at every level |
| 11:07.54 | Nemes_ | you'll notice when you level, you get messages saying that you have gained xx stats, mana and HP |
| 11:08.31 | SpiderFLS | yes i noticed that. are they always the same from 1 to 70 or do the values change? |
| 11:21.01 | SpiderFLS | an other question about this int thing, if i have no items equiped i have 104int and the tooltip says it adds 1280 mana. how are these values related? |
| 11:24.01 | sag_ich_nicht | SpiderFLS well what's your mana value if you have no items equiped and is the int value still green or is it white and what class do you play? :O |
| 11:24.43 | SpiderFLS | without items i have 4238 mana, the int value is white and i play a shaman |
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| 11:25.22 | SpiderFLS | lvl 70 and no talent points spent |
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| 11:26.45 | sag_ich_nicht | well iirc this is for setting a limit for debuffs |
| 11:27.54 | sag_ich_nicht | i.e. you can't go lower than 0 int so you would have 2958 mana if you had enough debuffs that lower int stacked on you to remove 104 int |
| 11:27.56 | sag_ich_nicht | but i'm not sure :P |
| 11:29.17 | Mikk | base mana is 2958 |
| 11:29.21 | Mikk | on top of that he has 104 int |
| 11:29.24 | Mikk | which adds 1280 mana |
| 11:29.28 | Mikk | for a total of 4238 |
| 11:29.53 | SpiderFLS | and how is this 104 and 1280 related, i dont see how i get 1280 mana from 104 int o_O |
| 11:30.06 | Mikk | most classes gain 15 mana per intellect |
| 11:30.07 | Mikk | shamans are obviously lower |
| 11:30.17 | Mikk | 12.3 per int or so? |
| 11:30.22 | SpiderFLS | no they also gain 15 per int |
| 11:30.42 | sag_ich_nicht | no |
| 11:30.42 | Mikk | mkay |
| 11:30.43 | SpiderFLS | if i equip an item with 20 int i gain 300 mana |
| 11:30.44 | sag_ich_nicht | since gain is curve |
| 11:30.47 | sag_ich_nicht | not a fixed value |
| 11:30.49 | Mikk | ehhh |
| 11:30.51 | Mikk | gain is not a curve |
| 11:31.03 | sag_ich_nicht | i am pretty sure it is, check hunter agi :P |
| 11:31.06 | Mikk | SpiderFLS: It could be that it's ignoring your base intellect at level 1 |
| 11:31.24 | Mikk | which is around 20ish |
| 11:31.40 | SpiderFLS | that would be 17 int at lvl 1.. hmm |
| 11:31.55 | Mikk | 104-17 = 87.... 1280/87=14.71 |
| 11:31.59 | Mikk | 18 perhaps? |
| 11:32.04 | SpiderFLS | no its 17 |
| 11:32.09 | sag_ich_nicht | lemme find the bluepost about hunter agility and how it works and how all stats work like it, but with a different formula but same system |
| 11:32.19 | Mikk | sag_ich_nicht: i don't really care how hunter agi works |
| 11:32.21 | Mikk | intellect is flat |
| 11:32.47 | Matrix110 | MIkk |
| 11:32.49 | Mikk | you gain the same mana from wearing an item if it's the first item you wear, or the last item you wear |
| 11:32.50 | sag_ich_nicht | Mikk: the point is that the blizzard post stating how hunter agility works is that all base values use this system, only with different variables |
| 11:32.50 | Matrix110 | we talk about Base int |
| 11:33.03 | Matrix110 | Base stats are different iirc |
| 11:33.13 | sag_ich_nicht | no they are not, god lemme look it up |
| 11:33.56 | sag_ich_nicht | http://blue.cardplace.com/newcache/forums.worldofwarcraft.com/98740260.htm |
| 11:34.45 | SpiderFLS | an other thing is if i calculate the base mana from maxmana and the mana added from int its not what i get if i calculate it from the purge cost |
| 11:35.08 | sag_ich_nicht | iirc somewhere in that post is also something along the lines of "like all values" |
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| 11:35.38 | Mikk | "Players have done a great job of discovering the underlying formula for how critical strike chance and dodge chance are calculated." |
| 11:35.44 | sag_ich_nicht | yeah i know :P |
| 11:35.54 | CIA-22 | 03ammo * r42322 10oRA2/Core.lua: oRA2: Tweak to core |
| 11:36.04 | Mikk | SpiderFLS: What's the cost in % and actual mana of purge? |
| 11:36.07 | sag_ich_nicht | I just re-read it, i probably remembered the posting text a bit wrong |
| 11:36.23 | SpiderFLS | 8% and it costs 236 mana |
| 11:36.38 | Mikk | 2950 |
| 11:36.42 | Mikk | that so0unds about right |
| 11:36.52 | Mikk | we calculated your base mana to be 2958 |
| 11:37.00 | SpiderFLS | jup... |
| 11:37.19 | sag_ich_nicht | i still think that blizz is using a linear equation for all base values >.> |
| 11:37.39 | Hjalte | Nargiddley, for some reason, "Hide duplicate items" seems to be not working as of latest Baggins |
| 11:37.40 | sag_ich_nicht | (but that's just me) |
| 11:38.03 | Mikk | sag_ich_nicht: but you do not gain the same to base values on different levels |
| 11:38.09 | Mikk | some levels you gain more, some levels you gain less |
| 11:38.09 | SpiderFLS | so where does this 8mp difference come from? |
| 11:38.39 | Nargiddley | Hjalte, yeah i'm in the process of reworking things |
| 11:38.42 | Mikk | 2958*0.08=236,64 |
| 11:38.43 | Mikk | rounded down |
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| 11:38.43 | sag_ich_nicht | Mikk: rounding? |
| 11:38.56 | Nargiddley | Hjalte, but it'll be worth it in a day or so :D |
| 11:39.09 | Mikk | Nargiddley: read your PMs damnit :P |
| 11:39.09 | Hjalte | Nargiddley, oh, sounds interesting :) |
| 11:39.14 | abbat_w | guys, anyone know small mod which allow me to move editbox? |
| 11:39.26 | Mikk | i know Prat does.. but prat isn't small :P |
| 11:39.34 | abbat_w | Mikk, yes ;) |
| 11:39.40 | SpiderFLS | oh |
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| 11:39.53 | abbat_w | all i need - move editbox. don't need other functionality |
| 11:40.01 | sag_ich_nicht | well mobileframes does as well, but... it's not small either |
| 11:40.03 | sag_ich_nicht | >.> |
| 11:40.06 | sag_ich_nicht | moveanything |
| 11:40.07 | sag_ich_nicht | same thing |
| 11:40.08 | sag_ich_nicht | >.> |
| 11:40.14 | sag_ich_nicht | erm |
| 11:40.19 | sag_ich_nicht | -mobileframes +fluidframes |
| 11:40.24 | SpiderFLS | so is there a way to parse the int tooltip for the mana gained? |
| 11:40.28 | sag_ich_nicht | i still keep saying mobileframes when i mean fluidframes -.- |
| 11:40.30 | Hjalte | On the topic of moving standard blizz elements, what addon does best these days? |
| 11:40.34 | abbat_w | i think i setup Prat |
| 11:40.43 | sag_ich_nicht | Hjalte: try either fluidframes or moveanything |
| 11:41.12 | sag_ich_nicht | unless there is some other addon i forgot |
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| 11:41.59 | [Ammo] | bloody trolls http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=4843.msg116377#msg116377 |
| 11:42.46 | sag_ich_nicht | i prefer fluidframes, but some addons tend to break with it(only one so far was engbags actually, and that's been fixed on engbags side) |
| 11:43.17 | Fisker- | you rang [Ammo]? |
| 11:46.08 | Punkie` | empty toc? haha |
| 11:51.00 | Fisker- | YUCK |
| 11:52.49 | Hjalte | Heh, NShakeDown is a smart addon |
| 11:56.47 | sag_ich_nicht | grrrrrrrr |
| 11:56.50 | sag_ich_nicht | reboot time |
| 11:56.52 | sag_ich_nicht | fuck you nvidia |
| 11:56.53 | sag_ich_nicht | actually |
| 11:56.54 | sag_ich_nicht | no |
| 11:56.58 | sag_ich_nicht | lemme check if there is a new driver |
| 12:00.40 | sag_ich_nicht | woho |
| 12:00.53 | sag_ich_nicht | 162.15 beta release from 3 days ago |
| 12:01.44 | Iceroth | cute how there are markings in 2 patch notes that there are performance issues with wow in vista from winter, then nothing for the next 6 months, still crappy performance |
| 12:03.08 | Iceroth | "Due to a problem with the v162.15 Windows XP and Windows XP 64-bit Beta drivers, they have been removed for download. We will be replacing these drivers with new fixed drivers shortly." |
| 12:03.17 | Iceroth | you sure you want those?) |
| 12:04.33 | Tornhoof | hehe |
| 12:04.52 | Tornhoof | probably te problem is that they don't include all those nasty nvidia workarounds |
| 12:05.36 | sag_ich_nicht | i am not downloading them or installing them yet |
| 12:05.42 | sag_ich_nicht | reading the release notes atm :P |
| 12:06.45 | Iceroth | latest vista beta drivers patch notes: "Single GPU Issues: World of Warcraft has low framerates.[289014]" |
| 12:06.47 | Hjalte | ckknight, sometimes when i mouseover someone, i am left with a tooltip saying just "mouseover" - or in case i have tattle data, it says "mouseover" and then on the next line "tattle data" |
| 12:07.06 | Iceroth | well no shit sherlock, been like that for 6 months, how about fixing it >.< |
| 12:07.35 | sag_ich_nicht | heh |
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| 12:11.08 | sag_ich_nicht | ahahahahahahahaha |
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| 12:12.00 | Azurewrath | ckknight: is it possible to display the Raid Icon near CowTip Tooltips? Oh and i tested the empty line collapsing, does not work.. |
| 12:12.08 | Iceroth | World of Warcraft ? there is a 60% drop in performance when running the game in windowed mode with SLI or multi GPU mode enabled.[289427] |
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| 12:12.13 | Iceroth | This is due to a limitation of the Windows Vista operating system and affects all multi GPU systems. NVIDIA is investigating a workaround for this performance problem. |
| 12:13.01 | Iceroth | why am i having hard time believing that crap? |
| 12:13.52 | Azurewrath | could be true.. afaik Programs can't access Hardware directly under Vista.. maybe that's why |
| 12:14.00 | Nargiddley | i'd believe it |
| 12:15.07 | Nargiddley | I remember the horrible hack multimonitors on nvidia cards was on win2k for ages, microsoft loves stuffing with things when they change driver architectures :/ |
| 12:15.07 | lolinternet | wow |
| 12:15.32 | sag_ich_nicht | I just found this in the nvidia release notes |
| 12:15.33 | sag_ich_nicht | http://support.microsoft.com/?scid=kb%3Ben-us%3B270715&x=16&y=6 |
| 12:15.48 | sag_ich_nicht | it is supposed to STILL happen with Athlon64 X2 |
| 12:15.55 | sag_ich_nicht | just applied the registry change |
| 12:16.18 | sag_ich_nicht | it's supposed to be auto-applied by the nvidia driver installation |
| 12:16.19 | nevcairiel | good that i use PCI Express and not agp |
| 12:16.20 | nevcairiel | :P |
| 12:16.21 | sag_ich_nicht | but wasn't for me |
| 12:16.24 | sag_ich_nicht | nevcairiel |
| 12:16.37 | sag_ich_nicht | this applies to PCI Express too, the KB article is outdated |
| 12:16.40 | sag_ich_nicht | (according to nvidia) |
| 12:17.06 | sag_ich_nicht | (i'm using PCI-Express myself :P) |
| 12:17.24 | sag_ich_nicht | "Microsoft has a knowledge base article on the issue, the text of which is |
| 12:17.24 | sag_ich_nicht | unfortunately quite outdated. |
| 12:17.25 | sag_ich_nicht | " |
| 12:17.34 | nevcairiel | its in my registry tho |
| 12:17.38 | nevcairiel | guess the driver installed it |
| 12:18.21 | sag_ich_nicht | yeah it didn't for me |
| 12:18.37 | sag_ich_nicht | guess that might be the cause for lots of strange behavior. |
| 12:19.09 | sag_ich_nicht | well |
| 12:19.12 | sag_ich_nicht | time to reboot i guess |
| 12:19.13 | sag_ich_nicht | >.> |
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| 12:23.51 | Pheredhel | ok, just that i get it right: the sandbox svn is that i can try to get my initial commits right ? |
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| 12:24.10 | sag_ich_nicht | there |
| 12:24.19 | sag_ich_nicht | still gonna keep using my old driver thou |
| 12:24.26 | Pheredhel | oh, and hi |
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| 12:33.56 | sag_ich_nicht | holy |
| 12:33.57 | sag_ich_nicht | The "driver internal error, check AGP aperture" crash after an alt-tab is a separate issue. We are investigating it presently. |
| 12:34.07 | sag_ich_nicht | and that's from the 13th |
| 12:34.08 | sag_ich_nicht | gj |
| 12:34.10 | sag_ich_nicht | >< |
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| 12:36.10 | sag_ich_nicht | wow |
| 12:36.25 | sag_ich_nicht | apparently there is a bug with conditional macros that is related to the amount of items you own totally |
| 12:36.42 | sag_ich_nicht | i have 18 bags only on my character and 16 in my bank |
| 12:36.47 | sag_ich_nicht | bank and character are nearly full |
| 12:36.49 | sag_ich_nicht | that explains a lot. |
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| 13:02.38 | Kreiger | Hey all. |
| 13:02.47 | Kreiger | If anybody has time, i have a question about Omen |
| 13:03.40 | sag_ich_nicht | ~metaquestion |
| 13:03.53 | sag_ich_nicht | gah |
| 13:03.53 | sag_ich_nicht | purl help me D: |
| 13:04.19 | Kreiger | metaquestion? |
| 13:04.26 | sag_ich_nicht | you asked one |
| 13:04.37 | Kreiger | more of a statement. |
| 13:04.37 | sag_ich_nicht | e.g. "Is anyone here that could help me?" |
| 13:04.46 | sag_ich_nicht | well just ask your question already |
| 13:04.50 | Kreiger | lol |
| 13:04.51 | sag_ich_nicht | i am alt + tabbing forth and back from WoW |
| 13:04.56 | sag_ich_nicht | :P |
| 13:05.18 | Kreiger | Omen's warnings.. I'm a tank. how can i make this work for me? right now it only goes off if i lose aggro. |
| 13:11.45 | phyber | CowTip is fun this morning. after mousing over a unit, the unit tip fades and gets replaced with a tooltip that says "Mouse-over" |
| 13:12.00 | yasuo | hi |
| 13:12.25 | yasuo | is tehre an addon wich "ignores" party-invites? |
| 13:12.43 | phyber | Automaton probably does it. |
| 13:12.46 | durcyn | yasuo: AntiInvite |
| 13:12.56 | yasuo | thank you |
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| 13:23.21 | yasuo | hmm can i use myaddons to unload addons? |
| 13:23.43 | yasuo | somehow the "Master control program" is gone since i downloaded myaddons |
| 13:27.50 | binder | hmm |
| 13:27.57 | binder | trying out this pitbull uf |
| 13:28.14 | binder | can't get the config menu to stay open long enough to do anything lol |
| 13:28.29 | Chompers | config menu? |
| 13:28.55 | binder | yea when I right click the icon on fubar |
| 13:29.10 | binder | it like locks up the whole game for a second then opens and closes right away |
| 13:29.38 | durcyn | consider using Niagara then |
| 13:29.53 | Chompers | ctrl+right click a unit frame |
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| 13:33.05 | binder | oh got it |
| 13:33.23 | binder | damn and after all this time finally perfecting perl lol |
| 13:33.34 | binder | I need to find a perl ripoff hud for this |
| 13:34.25 | CIA-22 | 03nargiddley * r42323 10Baggins/ (Baggins-Filtering.lua Baggins.lua): |
| 13:34.25 | CIA-22 | Baggins: |
| 13:34.25 | CIA-22 | - Major rewrite of Section Layout code, items will no longer jump around when items are removed from a section (selling etc), only when added. |
| 13:34.25 | CIA-22 | - Known issues: Hide duplicate items hasn't been re-implemented yet. Changing what is stacked will not update without a reload |
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| 13:39.31 | yasuo | i c the master control program is incompatible to wow-bc |
| 13:39.34 | yasuo | is tehre an alternative? |
| 13:39.36 | CIA-22 | 03nemes * r42324 10NShakedown/NShakedown.toc: NShakedown: update notes. |
| 13:40.35 | binder | hmm |
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| 13:40.49 | binder | I need a mod that tells me how long each of my mods is taking to load lol |
| 13:41.03 | Iceroth | warmup still working? |
| 13:41.04 | yasuo | myAddons seems useless to me, it cannot load/unload addons |
| 13:41.13 | binder | it works fine |
| 13:41.23 | binder | some mods need a /rl to enable |
| 13:41.42 | yasuo | you mean reloadui |
| 13:41.43 | binder | I use it to save sets of mods |
| 13:42.01 | binder | click the disable all |
| 13:42.02 | yasuo | but the deacitvated mods are not shown and tehre is no option do deactivate activated mods? |
| 13:42.04 | binder | and load taht set |
| 13:42.16 | binder | you have something broken then |
| 13:42.29 | yasuo | you are talking about myaddons? |
| 13:42.53 | binder | the mod that gives you an addons menu right? |
| 13:43.06 | binder | and lets you select sets etc? |
| 13:43.10 | sag_ich_nicht | god damn it |
| 13:43.14 | sag_ich_nicht | video driver crashed again |
| 13:43.15 | sag_ich_nicht | -.- |
| 13:43.30 | [Liquidor] | http://img151.imageshack.us/img151/5619/wowscrnshot062207025634kd7.jpg |
| 13:43.57 | binder | sag ich nicht? is that say i not? |
| 13:44.03 | sag_ich_nicht | not really |
| 13:44.04 | sag_ich_nicht | more like |
| 13:44.09 | sag_ich_nicht | "I won't say" |
| 13:44.13 | sag_ich_nicht | (roughly) |
| 13:44.25 | yasuo | binder: ok i start from the beginning: i used to play wow without BC and used the "master control program"/mcp for having the original adons-menu inside the game |
| 13:44.29 | binder | I'm american my german is terrible |
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| 13:44.44 | sag_ich_nicht | well |
| 13:44.48 | sag_ich_nicht | "sag" ich "tell" |
| 13:44.50 | yasuo | binder: now i installed wow-BC and the MCP des not work anymore, so i tried "myaddons" |
| 13:44.58 | sag_ich_nicht | ich is I |
| 13:45.02 | sag_ich_nicht | and nicht is not |
| 13:45.05 | sag_ich_nicht | so close enough :P |
| 13:45.08 | yasuo | binder: but "myaddosn" sucks, it has no acitabve/deactivate-option |
| 13:45.17 | sag_ich_nicht | [15:44] <sag_ich_nicht> "sag" is "tell" <-- |
| 13:45.18 | binder | yasuo it does though |
| 13:45.18 | sag_ich_nicht | fixed |
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| 13:45.34 | binder | isn't |
| 13:45.40 | yasuo | binder: maybe i have to wrong version? |
| 13:45.42 | binder | sagen |
| 13:45.42 | [Liquidor] | yasuo, if you got any ace addon installed use /ace enable/disable <name of addon> |
| 13:46.01 | [Liquidor] | yasuo, if you don't know what you got installed use /ace list enabled/disabled |
| 13:46.25 | yasuo | [Liquidor]: thank you but tehre are only a few ace addons and want to dis/enable all addons not only ace |
| 13:46.38 | [Liquidor] | It's all addons |
| 13:46.40 | binder | yea myaddons should do that |
| 13:46.41 | [Liquidor] | I belive |
| 13:46.43 | binder | what version do you have? |
| 13:47.20 | binder | oh I'm sorry |
| 13:47.22 | binder | I use ACP |
| 13:47.30 | binder | go get that |
| 13:47.34 | binder | it works great |
| 13:47.39 | binder | sec |
| 13:48.56 | binder | er, not sure the link to it, I use the ace updater for my addons |
| 13:49.47 | yasuo | huh? ace updater? |
| 13:50.04 | yasuo | but ACP seems to work - thank you :) |
| 13:50.09 | binder | http://www.wowace.com/wiki/WinAceUpdater |
| 13:50.12 | binder | oh you found it |
| 13:50.14 | binder | yea acp rocks |
| 13:50.55 | yasuo | .NET 2.0 Runtime - available from MSDN |
| 13:50.57 | yasuo | grml |
| 13:52.50 | CIA-22 | 03nargiddley * r42325 10Baggins/Baggins.lua: Baggins: Apply Compression options without a reload |
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| 13:54.03 | BankZ | WAU is giving this error: Version Check...Error |
| 13:54.29 | binder | server has been kinda slow this morning could be net issues |
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| 14:00.07 | CIA-22 | 03nemes * r42326 10NShakedown/ (Addons/MBuffBar.lua NShakedown.toc): NShakedown: add support for Morganti's BuffBars |
| 14:01.30 | Thorgard | Nargiddley, ia Baggins-Beta 1\Baggins.lua:1967: bad argument #2 to 'format' (number expected, got nil) already fixed? |
| 14:02.28 | Nargiddley | havent seen it before |
| 14:02.35 | Nargiddley | latest version ? |
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| 14:02.47 | Thorgard | Just updated. |
| 14:03.05 | BankZ | How bad can addons kill FPS? And is there a way to tell which addons are hurting the worst? I am looking at memory but is there anything else |
| 14:03.07 | Thorgard | Open Baggins and nothing shows other than the bag border and name. ;P |
| 14:03.15 | CIA-22 | 03athou * r42327 10CraftList2/CraftList2.lua: |
| 14:03.15 | CIA-22 | CraftList2: |
| 14:03.15 | CIA-22 | - fix for enchanting crafted items like wands and gems, rescan your enchanting panel |
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| 14:04.43 | BankZ | my FPS are dropping badly in some instances |
| 14:05.24 | Nargiddley | Thorgard, can you paste what line 1967 is in yours ? |
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| 14:07.13 | binder | performancefu |
| 14:07.22 | binder | has a cpu setting that shows you memory and cpu usage |
| 14:08.54 | BankZ | hmmm |
| 14:08.57 | BankZ | I use that for mem |
| 14:09.02 | BankZ | DIdnt know it had CPU |
| 14:09.19 | binder | yea takes a reload ui to enable |
| 14:09.28 | binder | I'm trying to find a mob that tells me how long each mod is taking to load |
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| 14:10.37 | BankZ | load speeds dont matter to me, its game performace when I am raiding :) |
| 14:10.52 | binder | I did a second install of wow |
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| 14:11.31 | binder | and just installed like ktm, perl, and onebag and itemrack to it |
| 14:11.59 | yasuoiwakura | wtf |
| 14:12.28 | binder | I'm a tank so lag isn't that huge of a deal |
| 14:12.28 | binder | but it matters |
| 14:12.28 | yasuoiwakura | when i click a flight-npc i get a "Filler text" |
| 14:12.30 | BankZ | You guys need to rewrite an auctioneer replacement addon :) |
| 14:12.36 | binder | lol yea |
| 14:13.09 | kaiden | doesn't KC_Items more or less replace most of the things auctioneer does? |
| 14:13.09 | binder | I run like 40 addons |
| 14:13.24 | binder | and only non ace ones are auctioneer and perl |
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| 14:13.32 | Spider | bad fps in raids? |
| 14:13.41 | BankZ | yeah |
| 14:13.52 | BankZ | yeah, its really bad in SSC |
| 14:13.55 | Spider | as soon as the combat begins? |
| 14:13.59 | BankZ | like 14 |
| 14:14.04 | Fisker- | oh my god |
| 14:14.05 | CIA-22 | 03pettigrow * r42328 10Omen/localization_frFR.lua: Omen: frFR Update |
| 14:14.13 | BankZ | it gets works in combat but in general its low |
| 14:14.18 | Fisker- | http://www-en.curse-gaming.com/downloads/details/4204/#comment_269249 <-i lol'd! |
| 14:14.19 | binder | are you using ktm or omen? |
| 14:14.38 | Thorgard | Nargiddley, sure, one moment |
| 14:14.39 | BankZ | nope |
| 14:14.43 | Spider | its defenetly not from the addons, i have the same problem but its the same thing without any addons |
| 14:14.46 | BankZ | Violation |
| 14:14.49 | yasuoiwakura | is there a way not to see the userlist of "gemchanneldefault"? it spams 10+ lines into wowchat |
| 14:15.14 | [dRaCo] | leave the channel? :> |
| 14:15.25 | phyber | Fisker-: which comment are you referring to? that link doesn't take you to one (was it deleted or something?) |
| 14:15.29 | Thorgard | Nargiddley, title = ("+ %s (%d)"):format(title, sectionframe.itemcount) |
| 14:15.50 | Fisker- | it isn't phyber :o |
| 14:15.54 | yasuoiwakura | <[dRaCo]> leave the channel? :> << well that would work but the corresponding adons would not work anymore ^ |
| 14:15.54 | Fisker- | it's the top comment |
| 14:16.04 | Fisker- | by Sukrim |
| 14:16.11 | Andune | wow. Omen yells at me now when I'm about to get agro.. |
| 14:16.26 | phyber | ah |
| 14:16.44 | binder | I want a mod that screams at my healers when they let me die |
| 14:17.18 | Andune | get aemotes_leeroy and play 'onyxiawipe' for them :) |
| 14:17.20 | ccKep | our tank usually does that manually on teamspeak ^.^ |
| 14:17.22 | yasuoiwakura | binder: there is a addon wich Warns the group when you run out of hp or mana |
| 14:17.35 | binder | yea I do too, I yell on vent |
| 14:18.10 | ccKep | then I tell him to stfu and get more hp xD |
| 14:18.41 | binder | I have like 4 pro healers |
| 14:18.52 | binder | and like 4 healers that don't realize that on some fights you have to move |
| 14:19.03 | binder | you can't stand in the same corner spamming FOL the whole time |
| 14:19.20 | sag_ich_nicht | console or script command to enable an addon so it's loaded the next time you reloadui |
| 14:19.21 | sag_ich_nicht | quck |
| 14:19.23 | sag_ich_nicht | *quick |
| 14:19.25 | binder | I blame blizzard for giving horde paladins |
| 14:19.30 | sag_ich_nicht | >< |
| 14:20.31 | binder | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:20.31 | sag_ich_nicht | no |
| 14:20.31 | ccKep | http://www.wowwiki.com/API_EnableAddOn *shrug* |
| 14:20.31 | sag_ich_nicht | normal addons |
| 14:20.31 | sag_ich_nicht | thanks ccKep |
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| 14:29.37 | CIA-22 | 03nargiddley * r42329 10Baggins/Baggins.lua: |
| 14:29.37 | CIA-22 | Baggins: |
| 14:29.37 | CIA-22 | - Compressed Item Buttons are now aware of all slots they represent, clicks will |
| 14:29.37 | CIA-22 | interact with unlocked items (not greyed out). This allows quick selling of |
| 14:29.37 | CIA-22 | multiple items or trading multiple stacks without uncompressing. |
| 14:29.38 | CIA-22 | - Fix for bad argument #2 to 'format' (number expected, got nil) |
| 14:33.53 | Pheredhel | some questions about the svn: frist: the "sandbox" is just for testing to get the fist commits right? did I understand this correctly ? |
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| 14:36.07 | Pheredhel | second: how do I make the initial import? as I have to have my files in a working copy to set properties if i understood it corectly |
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| 14:40.09 | Nargiddley | Pheredhel: http://www.wowace.com/wiki/SVN_AutoProps |
| 14:40.44 | Pheredhel | ah thanks, didnt found that page |
| 14:42.16 | BankZZ | Is there anyway to tell which addons use a lib? TabletLib is taking like 5% CPU |
| 14:43.25 | Megalon | BankZZ: do you use performancefu? |
| 14:43.29 | Ominous | BankZZ: yea probs cos you are looking at the preformance stuff with it |
| 14:43.42 | Ominous | so its updaing a fuck load while you are looking hence the cpu |
| 14:44.05 | Pheredhel | ok, now, can I use autoprops to set externals ? |
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| 14:44.38 | Nargiddley | Pheredhel, set those after you've done the import |
| 14:44.51 | Trancer | hmm |
| 14:45.00 | Pheredhel | ah and leave the directorys empty for the import? |
| 14:45.04 | BankZZ | yes, I use proframceCU |
| 14:45.04 | BankZZ | *FU |
| 14:45.21 | Trancer | does Omen parse KTM data or does it parse the combatlog and ignore KTM data? |
| 14:45.55 | ccKep | think it parses the combatlog but is able to receive/send data from/to KTM |
| 14:45.56 | Ominous | KTM |
| 14:46.25 | Ominous | no for your data it uses combat |
| 14:46.29 | Ominous | from threat-1.0 |
| 14:46.40 | Gagorian | It only parses combatlog data for yourself. |
| 14:46.41 | Ominous | but for ither it uses threat-1.0 or ktm |
| 14:46.42 | Andune | nargiddley: OMG, love the new 'locked' baggins slots when selling! |
| 14:47.02 | Trancer | Ominous: aha |
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| 14:47.10 | trh | BankZZ: you can look into the .toc file under the X-embedded section, it's not 100% accurate as its done by the author but it gives a good overview |
| 14:47.18 | Trancer | Ominous: so if another user runs KTM it will obtain the data for that user from KTM? |
| 14:47.31 | Ominous | yea unless they have threat-1.0 |
| 14:47.37 | Trancer | Alright |
| 14:47.47 | Ominous | think you have to manually enable it toh |
| 14:48.16 | ccKep | you can check "Show KTM data" under display settings |
| 14:48.21 | ccKep | or how it's called |
| 14:48.44 | ccKep | people only using ktm will then be shown as "*Name*" in your omen |
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| 14:51.56 | Thorgard | Nargiddley, what's this 'k23' slot in Baggins? |
| 14:52.02 | Nargiddley | keyring |
| 14:52.16 | Thorgard | Ah. |
| 14:52.24 | Thorgard | Wow, I didn't know the keyring was that big |
| 14:52.30 | Trancer | Ominous: hmm, okay |
| 14:52.34 | Trancer | Wondering about VT Threat atm |
| 14:52.44 | Trancer | having the usual KTM vs Omen argue ;p |
| 14:52.46 | phyber | Keyring is a gift from the Doctor. It's bigger the more keys you add to it. |
| 14:53.22 | Thorgard | Nargiddley, doesn't the keyring only have like.. 12 slots, though? |
| 14:53.34 | ccKep | it gets bigger the more keys you get |
| 14:53.46 | ccKep | dunno what the maximum is |
| 14:53.54 | ccKep | but its definately larger than 12 :) |
| 14:54.00 | sedatedChipmunk | supposedly isn't one |
| 14:54.16 | Thorgard | Ah. |
| 14:54.20 | Nargiddley | Thorgard, its got 32 or so, the bliz one only shows some |
| 14:54.53 | Nargiddley | more keys you have the bigger the bag it shows |
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| 14:55.22 | hyperChipmunk | i should spread out some relic coffer keys and see if there really is a limit |
| 14:55.52 | Nargiddley | you see 32 slots through the api, i guess thats the limit |
| 14:56.16 | Trancer | anyone any idea how much threat Vampiric Touch generates? 1 threat per 1 mana gain? |
| 14:56.26 | Thorgard | Nargiddley, looks like the 'hide duplicate items' option is broken |
| 14:56.51 | Nargiddley | yeah thats noted in the changelog |
| 14:56.57 | Thorgard | Ah. |
| 14:57.14 | Nargiddley | getting the slots behaving was a big rewrite, havent had a chance to get everything back in yet |
| 14:57.41 | phyber | hyperChipmunk: good idea, I just did it. it stops growing at 32 slots :/ |
| 14:57.50 | hyperChipmunk | >8P |
| 14:58.06 | phyber | either that or Bagnon can't show more than 32 slots for it. :) |
| 14:58.13 | hyperChipmunk | they lied! |
| 14:58.23 | hyperChipmunk | they lied to us! |
| 14:58.29 | hyperChipmunk | terminate them...immediately! |
| 14:59.01 | phyber | i guess if it gets to the point where 32 slots really are full, they'll increase the limit. |
| 14:59.06 | hyperChipmunk | yea |
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| 14:59.34 | CIA-22 | 03gagorian * r42330 10DrDamage/DrDamage.lua: |
| 14:59.34 | CIA-22 | DrDamage: |
| 14:59.34 | CIA-22 | - Minor rank parse optimization |
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| 15:02.08 | sag_ich_nicht | mhm, does anyone know a good GPU fan that fits on a 8800GTX from Asus? D: |
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| 15:02.34 | Pheredhel | are there any conventions about what lineendings to use? |
| 15:02.52 | Pheredhel | <PROTECTED> |
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| 15:03.45 | Fisker- | some unix specific one i think |
| 15:03.52 | Fisker- | open up an addon and check :P |
| 15:03.54 | Pheredhel | unix would be LF only |
| 15:04.01 | Ominous | shouldnt it be native |
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| 15:05.59 | Pheredhel | ? |
| 15:06.11 | Ominous | or am i thinking of the other one |
| 15:06.20 | Pheredhel | windows users seem to use the windows standard CRLF |
| 15:06.22 | Ominous | there is one svn:xxx setting which should be native |
| 15:06.38 | Pheredhel | this is just how to transmit it (as text file) |
| 15:06.42 | hyperChipmunk | svn:eol-style |
| 15:07.04 | hyperChipmunk | set it as an autoprop and turn autoprops on |
| 15:07.10 | hyperChipmunk | will make you happy |
| 15:08.29 | jme | did that ora2 bug happen to get fixed? i haven't updated since yesterday |
| 15:08.52 | jme | where if you drag the cooldown window around, it won't release from the mouse and you have to reloadui |
| 15:09.34 | Pheredhel | ok, so i can keep my files with just |
| 15:09.34 | Pheredhel | ok, so i can keep it with just LF, thanks |
| 15:09.38 | Ominous | jme: probs a blizzard frame bug |
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| 15:15.23 | CIA-22 | 03nargiddley * r42331 10Baggins/Baggins.lua: Baggins: fix for HideEmptySections being ignored |
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| 15:29.10 | sag_ich_nicht | could someone explain to me how /click exactly works and how to get it to work with Bartender3? X) |
| 15:29.41 | [dRaCo] | 4 or 8? |
| 15:29.47 | kaiden | 8 |
| 15:29.50 | kaiden | of course |
| 15:30.11 | [dRaCo] | heard the 8gb ones where sold out pretty darn fast |
| 15:30.42 | kaiden | i had no troubles getting one, walked in past armed guards |
| 15:30.50 | kaiden | said 1 8gb please .. paid them 652 bucks |
| 15:30.52 | kaiden | and walked out :P |
| 15:30.56 | [dRaCo] | armed guards o0 |
| 15:31.16 | Gnarfoz | 652 bucks for a cell phone oO |
| 15:31.27 | kaiden | it's not exactly a cell phone |
| 15:31.30 | Gnarfoz | that doesn't even work anywhere ^^ |
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| 15:31.32 | Gnarfoz | err |
| 15:31.34 | kaiden | it's more of an uber pda / portable media center |
| 15:31.34 | Gnarfoz | everywhere |
| 15:31.41 | kaiden | with a little cell phone love built in |
| 15:31.46 | durcyn | it's an ipod with a cell phone cobbled onto it |
| 15:31.53 | Gnarfoz | mega-ipod w/ phone |
| 15:32.25 | kaiden | meh, i like it :) |
| 15:32.34 | kaiden | i was lucky, i only technically spent 12 dollars |
| 15:32.36 | Trancer | any threat-1.0 developers about? |
| 15:33.03 | kaiden | 400 was given back to me from a 2 year deposit i had on my 4 cell phone lines, and then they gave me a 240 dollar account credit |
| 15:35.37 | Zurks | Oookay, so I did an update with WAU2 earlier and now all the libs my addons used are installed in my addons folder |
| 15:35.54 | Trancer | means you updated without externals |
| 15:36.04 | Zurks | oh, then I'm a nub |
| 15:36.06 | durcyn | so here's a stupid question... what the hell is the namespace for an LOD module? i'm trying to access a function in oRA OptionalCooldown, and i can't suss the syntax |
| 15:36.08 | Zurks | must have missed it |
| 15:38.15 | [Ammo] | durcyn: oRA:GetModule("OptionalCoolDown"):MyFunctionOFDewm( doomday ) |
| 15:38.24 | [Ammo] | if ofcourse the module is active |
| 15:38.41 | [Ammo] | read the acemodulecore documentation on the wiki |
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| 15:43.31 | durcyn | documentation? surely you jest. thanks ;) |
| 15:45.20 | Trancer | Just a newbie question, I am new to LUA and Ace but ehm.. code gets loaded once and then reevaluated constantly, correct? |
| 15:46.40 | Ominous | Trancer: no |
| 15:46.41 | Pheredhel | new files are loaded on wow startup |
| 15:46.51 | Pheredhel | code is reloaded, when the ui is reloaded |
| 15:47.14 | Pheredhel | everything else happens in the internal memory of wow |
| 15:47.17 | Trancer | ah hmm, okay |
| 15:47.59 | Trancer | because threat for example is on every tick of Curse of Agony evaluating if you wear the 6/9 plagueheart bonus.. and if so lowering threat amount, seems a rather expensive operation |
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| 15:48.14 | Kaelten | can anyone give me any idea why this code would fail randomly? |
| 15:48.15 | Kaelten | http://ace.pastey.net/70100 |
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| 15:49.43 | Fisker- | Trancer you could always talk to Antiarc about it |
| 15:49.50 | Fisker- | doesn't seem like that would be intended |
| 15:50.04 | Trancer | Fisker-: I will, thanks |
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| 15:50.59 | ag` | [Ammo], pling |
| 15:51.22 | [Ammo] | pong |
| 15:51.25 | Pheredhel | Kaelten: how does it fail ? |
| 15:51.35 | Kaelten | it returns nil nil |
| 15:51.50 | Kaelten | I've verified the data is present |
| 15:52.04 | Gnarfoz | sounds a bit like KTM would do it, Trancer ^^ |
| 15:52.08 | Kaelten | ;10323,1125,3600;8173,1000,0; |
| 15:52.09 | Ominous | Kaleten: the match fails |
| 15:52.14 | Ominous | ? |
| 15:52.24 | Kaelten | must be but I don't know how |
| 15:52.29 | Kaelten | the above is a sample of the data |
| 15:52.35 | durcyn | Gnarfoz: no, KTM only checks if you're a hunter wearing 6/9 plagueheart. |
| 15:52.47 | [Ammo] | ag`: wassup? |
| 15:53.11 | Gnarfoz | durcyn: heh. and not on each tick, but every frame! :) |
| 15:53.14 | ag` | [Ammo], the branch thingy should not give lockups anymore but still create frames and party frames if you login or /rl while in combat. I haven't gotten around to adding the watchdog/dogtag stuff I talked about earlier, but I'll finish it around the 9th, going away for a week or so |
| 15:53.16 | Kaelten | ominous the thing that gets me is that sometimes it works and sometimes it doesn't |
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| 15:53.24 | [Ammo] | ag`: cool |
| 15:53.32 | Wobin | rofl |
| 15:53.33 | [Ammo] | ag`: did you see my changes to trunk? |
| 15:53.41 | Wobin | I can't believe that Avana's post has hit 22+ |
| 15:53.51 | ag` | I'll take a look at them now [Ammo], cool |
| 15:53.51 | Ominous | kaelten: input data always the same format? |
| 15:54.01 | Wobin | s/Av/Amav/ |
| 15:54.02 | Kaelten | yep |
| 15:54.04 | ag` | didn't check the log recently |
| 15:54.05 | [Ammo] | ag`: agUF mem increase is decimated |
| 15:54.22 | ag` | I should do that to the branches too |
| 15:54.24 | ag` | sounds nice |
| 15:54.28 | nevcairiel | ag`: does the branch currently require dogtag? |
| 15:54.41 | Ominous | kaelten: db error for data maybe? |
| 15:54.50 | Pheredhel | Kaelten: what does math.fmod do ? i can only find the standard math.mod command |
| 15:54.52 | Ominous | does the local data always have a valuse |
| 15:55.02 | ag` | nevcairiel, for custom text yes (I'll provide a backwards compatible watchdog later next week), but you don't need it |
| 15:55.04 | Trancer | Kaelten: no fractional numbers? seeing you have %.? in the match |
| 15:55.21 | Kaelten | trancer no I don't think that there are anymore |
| 15:55.30 | Kaelten | ominous not sure how though |
| 15:55.35 | nevcairiel | ah guess i will try it then |
| 15:55.37 | Kaelten | pheredhel gives you the remainder |
| 15:55.40 | Trancer | wouldn't %d+ be sufficient then? |
| 15:55.41 | nevcairiel | i dont want dogtag on my wow :P |
| 15:56.00 | ag` | nevcairiel, yes, it's not included |
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| 15:56.15 | Kaelten | trancer possibily |
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| 15:57.42 | Trancer | also, if there is no match found, it should return, I guess, but I guess you got that covered (no match would cause nil nil) |
| 15:58.23 | ag` | [Ammo], looks like some really good changes, thanks a lot! |
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| 15:59.48 | nevcairiel | there switched to branch, and looks like before |
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| 15:59.51 | nevcairiel | hehe |
| 16:00.22 | ag` | branch doesn't have the memory improvements Ammo did to the trunk |
| 16:00.29 | ag` | I'll put them in next week |
| 16:00.59 | ag` | but I'm kinda on my way out the door now, so have fun :) |
| 16:01.14 | nevcairiel | have fun yourself |
| 16:01.21 | ag` | ty, buhbye |
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| 16:04.58 | Ominous | ~Seen Nemes |
| 16:05.33 | purl | nemes <i=nemes@224.red-217-216-10.user.auna.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #debian, 17d 15h 29m 7s ago, saying: 'I'm using the three DVD images (I have included them in the fstab file to mount them at boot time) as a local repository, but I get the message "WARNING: untrusted versions of the following packages will be installed! Untrusted packages ... |
| 16:05.33 | nevcairiel | wonder if he ever saw my changes regarding unregistering UNIT_NAME_UPDATE in trunk |
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| 16:05.34 | nevcairiel | he didnt copy that to branch .. but if he fixed the lockup on his end.. good enough =) |
| 16:05.34 | Ominous | ~seen Nemes |
| 16:05.35 | purl | nemes <i=nemes@224.red-217-216-10.user.auna.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #debian, 17d 15h 29m 9s ago, saying: 'I'm using the three DVD images (I have included them in the fstab file to mount them at boot time) as a local repository, but I get the message "WARNING: untrusted versions of the following packages will be installed! Untrusted packages ... |
| 16:05.35 | abyssichate | ckknight: you added Tattle support to DogTag didn't you? |
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| 16:09.44 | ravagernl | Baggins is bugged, hide duplicate items doesn't work for me |
| 16:11.20 | Hjalte | I like Banzaialert, because it does just what i need - However, is there an addon out there making a sound when i loose aggro, in addition to what Banzaialert does now? |
| 16:12.49 | dodgizzla | Hjalte: Maybe VitalWatch does that |
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| 16:13.23 | Hjalte | dodgizzla, I was using Vitalwatch for a while, but it has some faults - One of them, is what i am looking for now. |
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| 16:16.29 | Hjalte | ravagernl, nargiddley is fixing that some time. he told me he is changing some things at the moment. |
| 16:17.11 | sag_ich_nicht | http://pastey.net/70102-lu3p <--could someone post this for in either the US UI forums, the suggestions thread in the US UI forum or the US suggestions forum? :O |
| 16:17.35 | Strigoi | does assesment have sync feature as in violation? |
| 16:17.59 | dodgizzla | Hjalte: I'm using GridAlert myself, though it's a teensy weenzy bit buggy |
| 16:18.16 | dodgizzla | Hjalte: You can set up an alert when a unit loses aggro, but I never use that :D |
| 16:18.25 | dodgizzla | Because in most cases I hear "AGGRO!" and then I die :D |
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| 16:18.56 | Hjalte | dodgizzla, I've tried GridAlert, but i never figured out if it was possible for the text to be "You have aggro from -mob-" - Do you know? |
| 16:19.21 | Hjalte | If it cant tell me what i have aggro from, I'm not really interested. |
| 16:19.22 | dodgizzla | Hjalte: Hm I don't think so. The text is only static |
| 16:19.42 | dodgizzla | GridAlert has so much potential but nobody who gives it the love it needs :D |
| 16:19.43 | Hjalte | That's a good thing about banzaialert that i like a lot. |
| 16:21.18 | Hjalte | Hmm. Thrae, the author of Vitalwatch, said he would rewrite it at some point. I guess he never got to that :( |
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| 16:21.46 | dodgizzla | Hmpf Darkmoon Faire starts July 9th :\ |
| 16:21.54 | dodgizzla | 10 days til my precioussss |
| 16:27.21 | ccKep | pitbull broken atm? doesn't show ora2 maintanks for me :/ |
| 16:27.36 | nevcairiel | did it ever? |
| 16:27.47 | ccKep | yeah |
| 16:28.30 | Pheredhel | ok, hopefully my last question regarding SVN: if I import my addon to the dev.wowace.com trunk, it is automaticly available via the svn.wowace.com ? or do I have to do something else ? |
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| 16:30.13 | Pheredhel | neer thought svn could get that complicated (till now, I always created a new repo for each of my projects ) |
| 16:31.21 | Mikk | Pheredhel: yeah it's automatically visible |
| 16:31.30 | Mikk | possibly with a delay |
| 16:31.40 | Mikk | depending on if svn.wowace.com is a mirror today or if it's just a dns alias :> |
| 16:32.18 | Mikk | your addon also becomes visible on files.wowace.com. updates happen every 20 minutes |
| 16:33.04 | Pheredhel | ok, then I will now try to add my addon to the normal devsvn without breaking something at least, it worked on the sandbox) |
| 16:33.13 | Mikk | and tbh the wowace repo is set up a bit wrong, it should have been /wowace/AddonName/trunk, not /wowace/trunk/AddonName |
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| 16:33.44 | Thorgard | Hear, hear. |
| 16:34.52 | Thrae | Mikk: That's a great idea. It would be a pain for Kaelten & pastamancer to change, but it's not like it would screw with the WAU users, just the developers. Although, I'm not sure if you can make a post-create hook... |
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| 16:37.03 | Kaelten | Mikk: that format was actually debating when we where setting up the svn |
| 16:37.08 | CIA-22 | 03pheredhel * r42332 10CCBreaker/ (7 files): CCBreaker: initial import |
| 16:38.11 | Thrae | Kaelten: Is there a way to force creation of ./trunk with creation of /AddonName? |
| 16:38.26 | JoshBorke | scripts are a PITA |
| 16:38.28 | Kaelten | thrae nothign reasonable |
| 16:38.37 | ccKep | is there a lua function that behaves like /dump ? |
| 16:38.43 | Thrae | Damn SVN... |
| 16:38.45 | JoshBorke | ccKep: no |
| 16:38.50 | ccKep | damn -.- |
| 16:39.02 | JoshBorke | devtools includes a /dump |
| 16:39.16 | Kaelten | thrae its bad karma really to try to change a commit using a precommit and once post commit is called everything has happened |
| 16:39.21 | JoshBorke | ace console includes a /dump |
| 16:39.34 | ccKep | yeah, but I need to dump a local variable inside a function within pitbull |
| 16:39.43 | JoshBorke | devtools includes a DevTools_Dump() |
| 16:39.54 | JoshBorke | and you can call the ace console function some how |
| 16:40.35 | Kaelten | :PrintLiteral |
| 16:40.39 | nymbia | JoshBorke: AceLibrary('AceConsole-2.0'):PrintLiteral() |
| 16:40.46 | CIA-22 | 03pheredhel * r42333 10CCBreaker/: CCBreaker: setting externals |
| 16:40.51 | JoshBorke | ccKep: and there you have it |
| 16:41.01 | Thrae | Kaelten: Yeah, I still think it would be best to have something like /authors automatically created by your scripts which add a SVN user. |
| 16:41.02 | ccKep | thanks |
| 16:41.35 | Thrae | That seems like the easiest solution for separating addons instead of just having them ALL in /trunk. |
| 16:41.41 | Pheredhel | :) thanks everyone, seems to work |
| 16:41.59 | Kaelten | thrae, still not a good fix in the long run though |
| 16:42.25 | Mudkipz | gaaaaaaaaaaaah |
| 16:42.29 | Mudkipz | people are so stubborn |
| 16:42.43 | Kaelten | ? |
| 16:42.45 | ccKep | hmhmhm |
| 16:42.51 | Mudkipz | trying to convert people from ktm to omen |
| 16:42.58 | Mudkipz | it's really frustrating |
| 16:43.11 | Thrae | Kaelten: The problem there being trying to find the addon if you don't know the original author? |
| 16:43.13 | ccKep | << not familiar with ace, how does TriggerEvent stuff work? guess something there broke my pitbull :o |
| 16:43.18 | Mudkipz | and these are my guildies |
| 16:44.08 | Kaelten | thrae partly |
| 16:45.24 | Kaelten | trust me when I say that I will end up making drastic changes to the svn and how we work with it |
| 16:45.29 | ccKep | self:TriggerEvent("oRA_MainTankUpdate", oRA.maintanktable) <<< how would I catch that event? |
| 16:45.38 | Kaelten | but it will not be immediately I have many other things to work on. |
| 16:45.50 | Kaelten | ccKep: self:RegisterEvent("oRA_..... |
| 16:45.53 | Thrae | Kaelten: Hmmm, for that, we could have the post-commit hook make a symlink in /wowace/trunk, if SVN accepts symlinks. |
| 16:46.02 | ccKep | yeah, but the function header |
| 16:46.04 | ccKep | well |
| 16:46.12 | Kaelten | thrae it does not |
| 16:46.16 | Thrae | Kaelten: Oh I know, just throwing out ideas. |
| 16:46.22 | ccKep | pitbull does: self:RegisterEvent("oRA_MainTankUpdate") and function PitBull:oRA_MainTankUpdate() ..... end |
| 16:46.34 | ccKep | but how would that function access the maintanktable? :o |
| 16:46.38 | Thrae | Bah, stupid SVN server! |
| 16:47.07 | ccKep | it loops through a variable called cluster, but thats an empty table, guess that's the problem why my pitbull ora-maintanks don't work |
| 16:47.56 | JoshBorke | i feel like i mssed the beginning of thrae/kaelten's convo |
| 16:48.09 | Kaelten | JoshBorke: I may have too :P |
| 16:48.53 | JoshBorke | just ask your other self kaelten, maybe he knows |
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| 16:52.36 | Kaelten | nope he's asleep |
| 16:54.08 | cryogen | wtb a decent eu server that has an active horde side |
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| 16:55.54 | sag_ich_nicht | cryogen: try magtheridon, horde side is very active, but the server itself sucks :P |
| 16:56.03 | Pheredhel | Frostmourne horde seems to be active (just from what i see from alliace side) |
| 16:56.49 | Punkie` | Has anyone noticed Buffalo (1) to be kind of a memory hog? (disembeded ofc) |
| 16:56.57 | abyssichate | Duh, one addon I am using has been updated with some sort of Aggro red-borders flashing feature but I can't understand whcih |
| 16:57.03 | Pheredhel | arg sry, frostmourne is EU-DE server |
| 16:57.21 | kovi | please dont try magtheridon |
| 16:57.25 | kovi | it's too full as it is |
| 16:57.26 | kovi | :( |
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| 17:00.23 | Punkie` | abyssichate: Omen |
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| 17:05.55 | abyssichate | Yeah, got it |
| 17:06.41 | Slayman | copy do you read me? |
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| 17:09.32 | Slayman | someone of you happens to know, how to get OpenOffice Calcs find and replace with activated regexes to recognise \1 and \2 in the replace field? i know it's not wow nor ace, but I'm curious |
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| 17:15.39 | Funkeh` | hi all |
| 17:15.52 | Funkeh` | '2 new pre commit scripts'? :o |
| 17:15.59 | Slayman | no one's appearing to be alive Funkeh` |
| 17:16.41 | Fisker- | awww |
| 17:16.47 | Gnarfoz | one was for X-Category enforcing, IIRC |
| 17:16.50 | Gnarfoz | the other, I don't know |
| 17:16.50 | Fisker- | biggest gambling spree in denmark is over |
| 17:16.59 | Funkeh` | oh |
| 17:17.03 | Funkeh` | i thought it was fancy stuff |
| 17:17.09 | Funkeh` | so just security stuff? |
| 17:17.43 | Gnarfoz | ask Kaelten ^^ |
| 17:18.03 | Funkeh` | Kaelten: givf dirt on scripts |
| 17:18.17 | JoshBorke | just security stuff |
| 17:18.20 | JoshBorke | l/imit what can be uploaded |
| 17:20.48 | Mikk | Funkeh`: 1 script checks X-Category, 1 script makes sure that .bat and .exe and shit can't be uploaded |
| 17:21.01 | Mikk | (actually the other way around, it only allows whitelisted endings) |
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| 17:21.20 | Funkeh` | why bat? |
| 17:21.28 | Mikk | del c:\*.* |
| 17:21.39 | Funkeh` | :p |
| 17:21.55 | Mikk | some users are allowed to upload them still |
| 17:21.56 | Kaelten | Funkeh`: windows will also run a exe script renamed to .bat |
| 17:21.58 | Funkeh` | i was hoping for cool fancy irc scripts |
| 17:22.19 | Kaelten | nothing yet sorry |
| 17:22.30 | Funkeh` | so its ok to have normal bat files in bigwigs etc? |
| 17:22.35 | Kaelten | the whole require a committer to be in channel is still questionable |
| 17:22.39 | Funkeh` | we don't have to remove it? |
| 17:22.49 | Fisker- | Mikk but doesn't the LoD addons use bat scripts to split up folders? |
| 17:22.56 | Mikk | Fisker-: Yes, they do |
| 17:23.06 | Mikk | Trusted users are allowed to add .bats |
| 17:23.11 | JoshBorke | require commiter to be in channel? o.O |
| 17:23.12 | Kaelten | we'll handle allowing them on a case by case basis |
| 17:23.18 | Kaelten | JoshBorke: its been proposed |
| 17:23.21 | Mikk | We just don't want joe random SVN commiter to be able to upload this stuff |
| 17:23.29 | Mikk | There's a LOT of them these days |
| 17:23.47 | Funkeh` | well Kaelten i think the require commiter to be in irc would solve any kind of bat abuse |
| 17:23.47 | Kaelten | especially if that random joe guy where to upload a bad script to cartographer |
| 17:23.58 | Mikk | Funkeh`: eh,no, how would it |
| 17:24.12 | Funkeh` | we can swear at them ? |
| 17:24.24 | Mikk | and meanwhile 5000 people upgrade their cartographers? |
| 17:24.47 | Mikk | ^ happens quickly |
| 17:24.50 | JoshBorke | meh, just start over with a new website |
| 17:24.56 | Kaelten | and committer joe gets a few dozen accounts |
| 17:24.57 | JoshBorke | new repository with ACLs |
| 17:25.15 | Funkeh` | Mikk: the script runs evry 20min :p |
| 17:25.17 | Mikk | ACLs can be applied to the current noe just fine |
| 17:25.27 | Funkeh` | you could sto all commits 2min before |
| 17:25.31 | Mikk | Funkeh`: I know this. |
| 17:25.31 | JoshBorke | not developer controlled ACLs |
| 17:25.34 | Ominous | Kaelten: would it be possible to run files through luac -p if they are lua? |
| 17:25.47 | Ominous | and reject if lua errors |
| 17:25.50 | Kaelten | no |
| 17:26.10 | Funkeh` | Kaelten: sorry this is still clowdy, how do i go about having bat files in addons then |
| 17:26.14 | Kaelten | that'd require for me to check out after they where committed check them and then if error then role them back. |
| 17:26.20 | Mikk | Funkeh`: Ask a trusted user to add them for you |
| 17:26.23 | ccKep | is there a way I can browse diffs between certain addon revisions in the ace svn? |
| 17:26.28 | Mikk | Or get flagged as trusted by Kaelten |
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| 17:26.54 | JoshBorke | ccKep: yes. personally i use trac but you can do it with an svn client (don't ask me how ;-)) |
| 17:27.09 | Funkeh` | Kaelten: so if i want to edit the bigwigs abt file i do what msg you? |
| 17:27.13 | Funkeh` | bat* |
| 17:27.14 | Ominous | is there a system where like voice and above can update them or just ops or something? |
| 17:27.36 | Mikk | irc isn't tied into it at all |
| 17:27.42 | Mikk | kaelten adds people as fit |
| 17:27.47 | grzesieq | yay silvermoon ganked :D |
| 17:28.39 | Funkeh` | Antiar1: omen is completely broke |
| 17:29.17 | Oridan | has anyone here duplicated the Antiarc's Armory tools ? |
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| 17:29.40 | Oridan | just the SVN for it is a lilttle out of date, and doesnt include Avoidance |
| 17:29.41 | durcyn | he's THE antiarc now? oh dear. |
| 17:29.42 | [Ammo] | Funkeh`: I think I can edit the bat file |
| 17:29.57 | Oridan | the tools are "the" tools :P |
| 17:30.09 | [Ammo] | as in I could do the littlewigs one after getting .bat permission |
| 17:30.23 | Funkeh` | right |
| 17:30.24 | Oridan | you know what i mean durcyn :P |
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| 17:32.34 | ccKep | guess my pitbull bug is in oRA2 |
| 17:33.06 | ccKep | oRA2 developer here? |
| 17:34.41 | Thorgard | Huhu, I see a dirty horde called Mikk. |
| 17:34.52 | Mikk | lies, i'm not a ora2 developer |
| 17:34.53 | Mikk | i just hack it |
| 17:35.03 | Mikk | oh, a horde toon you mean? |
| 17:35.05 | Mikk | kill him |
| 17:35.06 | [Ammo] | pitbull bug in oRA2? |
| 17:35.07 | [Ammo] | no way |
| 17:35.10 | ccKep | well |
| 17:35.13 | ccKep | lets say this: |
| 17:35.14 | ccKep | http://www.wowace.com/trac/changeset/41898 |
| 17:35.16 | Thorgard | Mikk, yeah. ;P |
| 17:35.21 | ccKep | you renamed oRAPMainTank to mod |
| 17:35.23 | CIA-22 | 03punkie * r42334 10pDebuffList/core.lua: pDebuffList: Remove TF line |
| 17:35.26 | ccKep | but didnt oRAPMainTank = mod; |
| 17:35.31 | Mikk | Thorgard: he's prolly the bastard hogging "Mikk" on curse |
| 17:35.31 | ccKep | as you did in optional maintanks.lua |
| 17:35.32 | Mikk | gank him |
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| 17:35.44 | ccKep | you did "oRAOMainTank = mod" in optional/maintank.lua |
| 17:35.45 | [Ammo] | well, pitbull used a wrong API |
| 17:35.48 | Thorgard | PvE. :( |
| 17:35.53 | ccKep | used? uses, I think then |
| 17:35.59 | [Ammo] | oRA.maintanktable is what it should be using |
| 17:36.25 | [Ammo] | like I told ckknight at the start |
| 17:36.25 | ccKep | if oRAPMainTank then |
| 17:36.25 | ccKep | maintanktable = oRAPMainTank.core and oRAPMainTank.core.maintanktable |
| 17:36.28 | [Ammo] | so the fault is in pitbull |
| 17:36.44 | Mikk | lal. ".core." points to oRA |
| 17:36.47 | ccKep | mkay |
| 17:36.54 | [Ammo] | Mikk: not anymore |
| 17:37.01 | ccKep | so it's an easy fix I guess? |
| 17:37.01 | [Ammo] | which is what's causing the pitbull blowup |
| 17:37.02 | [Ammo] | shrug |
| 17:37.14 | Mikk | ccKep: easy fix in pitbull yeah |
| 17:37.18 | [Ammo] | probably yeah |
| 17:37.40 | ccKep | guess that's the only two lines that need fixing there |
| 17:37.56 | Mikk | [Ammo]: My point was that it's a bit lol to take the detour via oRAPMainTank.core. when oRA is the same |
| 17:38.56 | ccKep | but why the inconsistency in adding oRAOMainTank to optional/maintank.lua but not oRAPMaintank to participant/maintank.lua? xD |
| 17:39.17 | [Ammo] | because the maintank secure frames needed the namespace |
| 17:40.09 | [Ammo] | which probably can be fixed with an oRA:GetModule() solution |
| 17:40.12 | [Ammo] | but I haven't bothered yet |
| 17:40.33 | CIA-22 | 03punkie * r42335 10pDebuffList/core.lua: pDebuffList: Tweak |
| 17:40.39 | ccKep | replacing the above two lines with: |
| 17:40.39 | ccKep | if oRA then |
| 17:40.39 | ccKep | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:40.42 | ccKep | should work then, right? |
| 17:41.06 | [Ammo] | probvably yeah |
| 17:41.18 | [Ammo] | as in that's what it should have done all along |
| 17:41.40 | ccKep | yeah, works |
| 17:41.50 | ccKep | cheer, ora2 maintanks back in pitbull ^.^ |
| 17:42.35 | Matrix110 | commit that change! |
| 17:42.57 | ccKep | <<< knows fuck about svn ^.^ |
| 17:43.30 | Mikk | yaknow what could make me use pitbull? |
| 17:43.36 | Mikk | tying the rez monitor in :S |
| 17:43.36 | Ominous | anyone from london here? |
| 17:44.03 | Mudkipz | hellgate london looks fun |
| 17:44.05 | Matrix110 | then lets annoyingly highlight ckknight so he takes a look here! |
| 17:44.07 | Mudkipz | amirite |
| 17:44.19 | ccKep | ckknight has been idle 5hrs 13mins 3secs, signed on Sat Jun 30 10:50:24 |
| 17:44.32 | Matrix110 | hes there anyway:P |
| 17:44.36 | Matrix110 | hes there always |
| 17:44.48 | ccKep | queried him an our ago, didn't answer ;) |
| 17:45.19 | Matrix110 | oh then hes dead |
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| 17:46.18 | Thorgard | Nuts, Recount's showing negative DPS. ;P |
| 17:46.34 | CIA-22 | 03ammo * r42336 10oRA2/Bindings.xml: oRA2: make some people's lives less miserable |
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| 17:48.19 | CIA-22 | 03ammo * r42337 10oRA2/Optional/ (MainTank.xml PlayerTarget.xml): oRA2: potentially undo the good deed in my last commit to keep things balanced |
| 17:50.02 | CIA-22 | 03ammo * r42338 10oRA2/Optional/ (MainTank.lua PlayerTarget.lua): oRA2: cleanup leftover globals |
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| 17:51.12 | ravagernl | nevcariel, can I request a hide of the petbar frame in bartender3 when the pet bar hides? the buttons get hidden but the petbarframe isn't, causing my eePanels texture to not hide :< |
| 17:51.52 | ravagernl | nevcariel: Frame name is BT3BarPET |
| 17:52.23 | durcyn | pretty sure you can't show a secure frame in combat, ravager |
| 17:52.31 | durcyn | which is why you wouldn't necessarily want to :Hide it |
| 17:52.58 | Hjalte | ckknight, even though I've set everything to Immediate hide in the Fade menu, some mouseover-tooltips are still fading out. "Dwarven Brazier" in Ironforge for example. |
| 17:53.27 | ravagernl | hmm, if only eePanels textures would have the ability to hide or show based on a condition if a certain unit would exist |
| 17:54.10 | Leialyn | ckknight: I just played around with my new UI and when I came to FuBar I wondered why you can't set SharedMedia Textures as FuBar background ;) |
| 17:54.26 | durcyn | ravagernl: do the buttons themselves hide? |
| 17:55.18 | ravagernl | durcyn: probably, but I can't set eePanels textures parent to PetActionButton1 for example, not sure why |
| 17:55.45 | Fisker- | pwnt |
| 17:55.47 | durcyn | oh, it's based on parenting? thought it was some kind of event trigger |
| 17:55.51 | ravagernl | argh |
| 17:55.58 | Fisker- | s/ravagernl/ravagernl's/ |
| 17:56.12 | ravagernl | fisker: GTFO :> |
| 17:56.16 | Fisker- | :( |
| 17:56.33 | ilifin | is there any mod out there that lets you ignore whispers from players based on a regexp of their guildnames |
| 17:56.38 | ilifin | I want a filter on *Danish* |
| 17:56.45 | Mudkipz | lol |
| 17:57.15 | ilifin | thunderhorn EU has over 50 guilds with DANISH in them |
| 17:57.18 | Fisker- | more like DK ilifin |
| 17:57.22 | ilifin | 90% level 20s begging for gold |
| 17:57.30 | ravagernl | durcyn: with pet: http://img137.imageshack.us/img137/1038/wowscrnshot063007192256cq6.jpg, without pet:http://img525.imageshack.us/img525/9466/wowscrnshot063007195407qy2.jpg |
| 17:57.37 | ilifin | 5% idiots who think pvp is won by 10man defending |
| 17:57.41 | Hjalte | ilifin, forgive us, in denmark we still live in stone caves and we havent learned proper manners yet. |
| 17:57.41 | ilifin | 5% people who are just idiots |
| 17:57.43 | Fisker- | we have like a trillion danish on our server |
| 17:58.15 | Mudkipz | oh man |
| 17:58.17 | Punkie` | ravagernl: you have a weird UI :P |
| 17:58.24 | ravagernl | 0o |
| 17:58.26 | Punkie` | 'Twenty Past Seven' etc |
| 17:58.29 | ravagernl | No wai |
| 17:58.33 | Punkie` | and exactly 5000g? :P |
| 17:58.36 | Mudkipz | gold beggars are fine but the aggressive ones that open your trade just pisses me of f |
| 17:58.38 | ravagernl | fubar_fuzzyclockfu! |
| 17:58.53 | ilifin | Hjalte - there are exceptions, but I inted to alteast filter away all and then set exceptions >_> |
| 17:58.56 | ravagernl | no, thats artisan riding skill cost from trainerfu lol |
| 17:59.07 | ravagernl | reminds me to not spend any gold on crap |
| 17:59.40 | Punkie` | haha |
| 18:00.12 | ravagernl | and whats weird about it besides fubar :) |
| 18:00.50 | CIA-22 | 03samuelcup * r42339 10FuBar_WhisperFu/ (FuBar_WhisperFu.toc WhisperFuLocale-zhCN.lua): |
| 18:00.50 | CIA-22 | FuBar_WhisperFu: |
| 18:00.50 | CIA-22 | - zhCN translation added by lostcup @ NGACN |
| 18:02.16 | Saroz | vhaarr_, the sound alert in bigwigs is all wrong -- "babe" is a totally annoying sound |
| 18:02.54 | Hjalte | Saroz, i love babe. Is it the "aggro" babe you are refering to? |
| 18:03.23 | sag_ich_nicht | any way to disable Ace2's /dump ? |
| 18:03.38 | ckknight | abyssichate: no, Tattle support is not in DogTag. I have no real issue with it going in, though |
| 18:03.48 | sag_ich_nicht | (i wanna use the one from devtools) |
| 18:03.56 | ckknight | Azurewrath: no raid icon support yet |
| 18:04.13 | Saroz | Hjalte, yes, but it's an annoying scream now, not the aggro babe voice.. I miss her |
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| 18:04.14 | ckknight | Hjalte: anything I can do to reproduce it just showing "Mouseover" |
| 18:04.21 | ilifin | but in all seriousity, is there any way to filter away whispers based on guildnames? |
| 18:04.25 | ckknight | sag_ich_nicht: it should disable itself if DevTools is detected |
| 18:04.41 | Hjalte | ckknight, oh yeah, that's kind of annoying too. What is causing the mouseover tooltip? |
| 18:05.12 | sag_ich_nicht | ckknight: okay, thanks :) |
| 18:05.36 | Hjalte | ckknight, i get the non-fading tooltip when i mouse over non-living objects, such as mailbox, braziers and the like. |
| 18:05.40 | ckknight | Hjalte: I have to know how to reproduce it first, that's why I asked |
| 18:06.10 | CIA-22 | 03ammo * r42340 10oRA2/Core.lua: oRA2: bugfix |
| 18:06.12 | Hjalte | ckknight, although a sign like "ironforge armory" doesnt not-fade. This is strange. |
| 18:07.50 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r42341 10PitBull/PitBull.lua: PitBull - fix issues with oRA's main tanks |
| 18:08.18 | ckknight | Hjalte: because it's a world object |
| 18:09.42 | Hjalte | ckknight: Hmm. No matter what i do, I can't get signs and signs over shops to fade. Not that i would like them to, but that's intentionally from your side i guess? |
| 18:10.23 | ckknight | no, it's not |
| 18:10.29 | ckknight | I haven't added support for world objects |
| 18:11.32 | Hjalte | ckknight, what class is the mailbox and the dwarven brazier then? Also world objects, but another kind? |
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| 18:11.34 | buchkurish | woot woot |
| 18:11.36 | buchkurish | sup guys |
| 18:11.39 | buchkurish | is this the wow channel =) ? |
| 18:11.52 | ckknight | Hjalte: everything in the worldframe that isn't a unit |
| 18:11.58 | ckknight | buchkurish: it is _a_ wow channel |
| 18:11.59 | buchkurish | oh and is this fps thing any good? |
| 18:12.03 | buchkurish | ckknight: thank you |
| 18:12.23 | buchkurish | ckknight: i have a question, blackstorm leggings, they require you to do elemental leather work, how do i go abouts doing that? |
| 18:12.35 | ckknight | okay, this is a wow addon channel |
| 18:12.36 | buchkurish | ckknight: oh yes and the fps mod, whats it do? |
| 18:12.41 | buchkurish | haha =) |
| 18:12.43 | ckknight | no idea. |
| 18:12.48 | buchkurish | ok.. what about the mod |
| 18:12.51 | Jaxon | buchkurish: this is more of a development channel than general help. |
| 18:12.52 | ravagernl | it shows your fps, duh |
| 18:12.54 | ckknight | no idea about that, either |
| 18:12.58 | buchkurish | Jaxon: than kyou very much |
| 18:13.13 | buchkurish | ravagernl: shows my fps? why would i want to knwo my fps |
| 18:13.21 | buchkurish | ravagernl: just antoher distraction |
| 18:13.56 | ravagernl | then... just turn it off? most people like to know what their fps is |
| 18:14.02 | Chompers | ckknight: can i run a washing machine + dishwasher together? |
| 18:14.22 | ckknight | oh no, that'd be ludicrous. |
| 18:14.23 | Thorgard | Someone enlighten me on heroics. You can only do so many per day? |
| 18:14.36 | Moltarain | you only want know your fps below a sertain value |
| 18:14.37 | Hjalte | Thorgard, you can only do every instance once. |
| 18:14.43 | buchkurish | chompers is stupid |
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| 18:14.56 | Chompers | He sure is. |
| 18:14.57 | ckknight | ...he didn't belong here. |
| 18:15.05 | Thorgard | Hjalte, do you get 'saved' to an instance when you kill a boss? |
| 18:15.09 | Thorgard | Err, 'heroic' |
| 18:15.12 | Hjalte | Thorgard, yes |
| 18:15.27 | Thorgard | Ah, so you can't kill a boss, go out, reset and then go back in and kill that first boss? |
| 18:15.40 | Hjalte | Nope |
| 18:15.43 | sag_ich_nicht | nope |
| 18:15.48 | Moltarain | when you enter it you get saved. and if you killa a boss its dead until the timer is out |
| 18:16.28 | Thorgard | So, for example. Black Morass, kill the first boss, get saved to the instance and then let Medivh die.. you're screwed? Or can you get back in and restart the event and kill that first boss again? |
| 18:16.38 | Jaxon | That restarts I believe 5 times |
| 18:16.41 | Jaxon | After a delay |
| 18:16.50 | Jaxon | But that is the exception, not the rule. |
| 18:17.17 | Hjalte | Thorgard, also, the thrall instance, gives you 3 tries. You can have thrall die 3 times before he completely dissappears. |
| 18:17.34 | Thorgard | Ah, so there's a limit on how many retries you get. |
| 18:17.43 | Jaxon | For thsoe two, yes, because they are event driven |
| 18:17.49 | Jaxon | But you'd have to be insane to want to do Heroic BM |
| 18:19.07 | Moltarain | note that all instances have some changed stuf in heroic. like BF fel rever dosnt charge. botanica the first boss do some more patroling so make shure you pull far back else it gets nasty. :P |
| 18:19.19 | *** mode/#wowace [+v Antiarc] by ChanServ |
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| 18:19.38 | Antiarc | mornign |
| 18:20.01 | Hjalte | I tried heroic BM once, and unfortunately the healer got d/c right after having started the event when we weren't ready (...) but at least i got to tank a little and one of the minibosses magic bolts hurt me for 2,5k non crits. |
| 18:20.07 | Jaxon | The first Black Morass boss does a nice slow/Arcane Explosion |
| 18:20.25 | TecnoBrat | aran you say? |
| 18:20.31 | Jaxon | Really, it is digusting |
| 18:20.44 | Jaxon | TecnoBrat: similar to that, or to that Sethekk Halls guy. |
| 18:21.36 | ravagernl | http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=7041.0 interesting |
| 18:21.46 | Hjalte | Antiarc. What about adding a warning for tanks, for Omen? "Playername is now 10% above you in threat" or something. |
| 18:21.55 | Moltarain | BF is like easy mode in heroic. do it in like 30 min or so. |
| 18:22.11 | Antiarc | Hjalte: Definitely thinking about it |
| 18:22.18 | Jaxon | Moltarain: give Mechanar a shot, 45 minutes, 5 badges. |
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| 18:23.05 | sag_ich_nicht | okay |
| 18:23.06 | sag_ich_nicht | seriously |
| 18:23.07 | sag_ich_nicht | what's the purpose of TABARD_CANSAVE_CHANGED? D: |
| 18:23.25 | ckknight | likely backwards compat |
| 18:23.27 | ckknight | morning, Antiarc |
| 18:23.37 | Moltarain | Jaxon: yah i know. the one i realy want is the SV for the kilt on the last boss. but not so many good player wants to go there. |
| 18:24.00 | sag_ich_nicht | ckknight: i'm asking because i am running around in ironforge, doing nothing, and it fires quite often |
| 18:24.39 | Mikk | Hjalte: Not much the tank can do about it. They'll always be building aggro at max speed tbh. |
| 18:25.26 | Hjalte | Mikk, hmm, but then at least you would be aware that someone might be taking aggro soon, and be ready with your taunt button. |
| 18:25.33 | ckknight | sag_ich_nicht: check TabardFrame.lua |
| 18:25.36 | Hjalte | I'm thinking more for trash and 5-mans |
| 18:25.39 | Mikk | True |
| 18:26.06 | CIA-22 | 03ammo * r42342 10oRA2/Leader/Item.lua: oRA2: bugfix in reagent check |
| 18:27.03 | Mikk | [Ammo]: Is the reagcheck some hardcoded list of things that the recipient decides, or does it simply query fora bunch of things? Reason I'm asking is I remember thinking something was missing the other day. |
| 18:27.50 | sag_ich_nicht | [Ammo]: does the reagent check work cross localisation yet? |
| 18:28.50 | [Ammo] | it always worked cross localization |
| 18:29.00 | sag_ich_nicht | last time i tried with symbol of kings it didn't D: |
| 18:29.12 | sag_ich_nicht | first had to check for Symbol of Kings then Symbol der Könige |
| 18:29.12 | [Ammo] | item checks will never work |
| 18:29.22 | [Ammo] | unless you use the itemid |
| 18:29.24 | [Ammo] | that would work |
| 18:29.37 | sag_ich_nicht | couldn't you just get the itemid from name then use the itemid? :P |
| 18:29.59 | [Ammo] | Mikk: it's a hardcoded list of one item per class |
| 18:30.08 | [Ammo] | Mikk: it's a bit retarded |
| 18:30.15 | Mikk | mh. ctra retardation then |
| 18:30.19 | [Ammo] | yup |
| 18:30.29 | sag_ich_nicht | CTRA supports item checks thou? |
| 18:30.35 | [Ammo] | yes |
| 18:30.53 | BankZ | Ive been missing some of the enrage timers with bigwigs recently |
| 18:30.54 | sag_ich_nicht | rework the reagent check button in oRA2 to ignore CTRA reagent check and make an item check for all reagents. |
| 18:31.08 | [Ammo] | sag_ich_nicht: not going to happen |
| 18:31.25 | sag_ich_nicht | [Ammo]: reason? i'm not saying ignore an incoming CTRA reag check :P |
| 18:31.30 | BankZ | brb |
| 18:31.40 | [Ammo] | because oRA2 is CT compatible |
| 18:31.53 | sag_ich_nicht | [Ammo]: so how would that make it incompatible exactly? |
| 18:32.30 | durcyn | the protocol allows for one query and one response per person per check, and the default ctra / ora query already -does- that |
| 18:33.02 | durcyn | so if a raid officer runs /rareg, he will see all classes, i find that sufficient. do you not? |
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| 18:34.27 | sag_ich_nicht | durcyn: i would, but since CTRA fails to check for some reagents, it seems to me that providing raid leaders with a button to quickly check for all actually needed reagents using the item check would increase usability without breaking compatibility |
| 18:34.49 | sag_ich_nicht | (would cause a bit of extra traffic though) |
| 18:34.52 | [Ammo] | sag_ich_nicht: make a few macros |
| 18:35.09 | sag_ich_nicht | [Ammo]: i am already out of macro space, thank you. |
| 18:35.12 | [Ammo] | but only oRA2 supports item checks with item id's |
| 18:35.20 | sag_ich_nicht | ...aaah |
| 18:35.23 | sag_ich_nicht | there lies the problem |
| 18:35.26 | sag_ich_nicht | you could have just said that |
| 18:35.33 | [Ammo] | so your cross locale will never work anyway |
| 18:35.44 | [Ammo] | unless CTRA changed their code to use GetItemCount() as well |
| 18:35.49 | [Ammo] | but I think it scans bags |
| 18:36.03 | TecnoBrat | (which is ROFL) |
| 18:36.17 | [Ammo] | wihch was the only way prior to 2.0 or 1.12 |
| 18:36.29 | nymbia | i will hear no insinuations about the extensibility of CTRA's code!! |
| 18:36.31 | nymbia | >.> |
| 18:36.51 | TecnoBrat | In insinuated? |
| 18:36.57 | durcyn | i think the insinuation was "what extensibility", nymbia. |
| 18:36.59 | TecnoBrat | I think I flat out laughed ... |
| 18:37.09 | nymbia | durcyn: that's true. |
| 18:37.28 | Funkeh` | every time i tab in this channel you aare bitching about some mod -_- |
| 18:37.35 | nymbia | Funkeh`: WHAT |
| 18:37.37 | [Ammo] | I did not bitch at any mod |
| 18:37.41 | Funkeh` | nymbia: no YOU |
| 18:37.57 | nymbia | Funkeh`: :( |
| 18:38.26 | Funkeh` | :p |
| 18:38.31 | durcyn | god, bigwigs sucks. i blame that funkydude dude. |
| 18:38.40 | durcyn | ! |
| 18:38.41 | Funkeh` | i don't care i have your password |
| 18:39.00 | durcyn | bigwigslod.bat rootkit? |
| 18:39.22 | Funkeh` | you should have your text editor show white text |
| 18:40.10 | Funkeh` | i learnt from the one and only nymbia |
| 18:41.13 | sag_ich_nicht | wow |
| 18:41.14 | sag_ich_nicht | elseif ( event == "TABARD_CANSAVE_CHANGED" or event == "TABARD_SAVE_PENDING" ) then |
| 18:41.14 | sag_ich_nicht | TabardFrame_UpdateButtons(); |
| 18:41.29 | [Ammo] | whoever the fuck Gregory is on the forums should die in a pile of horsedung |
| 18:41.51 | kergoth | sag_ich_nicht, wow what? |
| 18:41.54 | [Ammo] | told him to use SWStats |
| 18:41.57 | sag_ich_nicht | if i read this right blizzard is trying to update the buttons on a frame that doesn't even exist while i'm running around in ironforge, doing nothing |
| 18:41.59 | [Ammo] | and he replies with: I do, just warned others that they should not expect any accuracy from Violation. |
| 18:42.02 | [Ammo] | sigh |
| 18:42.06 | kergoth | ah |
| 18:42.55 | Matrix110 | Is the DPS from Violation based on a set time like 10sec or over the whole incombat time btw? |
| 18:43.08 | sag_ich_nicht | since TABARD_CANSAVE_CHANGE fires for no apparent reason while i run around in IF in front of the bank |
| 18:44.02 | sag_ich_nicht | anyone able to confirm this or am i just being stupid? D: |
| 18:44.18 | [Ammo] | Matrix110: it's burst dps, feel free to write a combat dps module of your own |
| 18:44.26 | Mikk | How the hell is accuracy related to level of detail? |
| 18:44.46 | [Ammo] | I replied very witty |
| 18:44.54 | [Ammo] | and spoke only the truth as well |
| 18:45.04 | Mikk | "You, sir, are a retard." |
| 18:45.07 | [Ammo] | nono |
| 18:45.13 | Kaelten | ok found a way to do pre-commit compilation |
| 18:45.18 | [Ammo] | Nor from SWStats that does not count the DoT part of fireball for instance amongst other things. |
| 18:45.22 | [Ammo] | But I guess I should stop feeding trolls. |
| 18:45.29 | Kaelten | hook in place |
| 18:46.22 | [Ammo] | aw man now I have to commit all my test code from work to home in comments :p |
| 18:46.26 | sag_ich_nicht | ~stab Mikk |
| 18:46.27 | purl | ACTION runs at Mikk with an origami Swiss Army knife, and inflicts a nasty paper cut. |
| 18:47.14 | Mikk | [Ammo]: Or commit it as .txt |
| 18:47.17 | Kaelten | [Ammo] it just does syntax checking |
| 18:47.38 | [Ammo] | I commit broken syntax a lot :) |
| 18:47.40 | kebinusan | tradeskill merge seems broken in quartz |
| 18:47.48 | sag_ich_nicht | kebinusan works for me |
| 18:47.51 | kebinusan | at least when Im making bandages it just counts negatively |
| 18:47.52 | Kaelten | hehe |
| 18:48.00 | sag_ich_nicht | bandages? |
| 18:48.00 | sag_ich_nicht | k |
| 18:48.08 | sag_ich_nicht | i'll test later |
| 18:48.13 | sag_ich_nicht | actually i can test right now |
| 18:48.30 | sag_ich_nicht | works for me |
| 18:48.56 | nevcairiel | [Ammo]: http://ace.pastey.net/70107 |
| 18:49.38 | [Ammo] | nevcairiel: using FuBar_oRA2?CooldownFu |
| 18:49.45 | [Ammo] | or something nonstandard oRA? |
| 18:49.51 | nevcairiel | yes that fubar thin |
| 18:49.54 | [Ammo] | k |
| 18:50.02 | [Ammo] | blame roartindon then |
| 18:50.12 | nevcairiel | heh |
| 18:50.13 | nevcairiel | okies |
| 18:50.19 | [Ammo] | I can try to fix it |
| 18:50.20 | [Ammo] | but shrug |
| 18:50.25 | nevcairiel | didnt say anything about that plugin so i wondered |
| 18:51.27 | [Ammo] | well it's the plugins fault |
| 18:52.57 | CIA-22 | 03ammo * r42343 10FuBar_oRA2CooldownFu/oRA2CooldownFu.lua: .FuBar_oRA2CoolDownFu: fix event register |
| 18:53.04 | [Ammo] | try that commit nevc |
| 18:53.33 | [Ammo] | it tried registering the same check for a different event |
| 18:53.37 | [Ammo] | which is not allowed |
| 18:53.38 | [Ammo] | :p |
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| 18:54.32 | Funkeh` | won't get very far as long as its using AL2 |
| 18:54.32 | CIA-22 | 03ammo * r42344 10oRA2/Core.lua: oRA2: fix registercheck error message |
| 18:54.38 | Funkeh` | ERROR: (svn://dev.wowace.com/wowace/trunk/FuBar_oRA2CooldownFu) invalid external svn://dev.wowace.com/wowace/trunk/Ace2/AceLocale-2.0 |
| 18:54.47 | durcyn | hrm. Cooldown monitor scaling resizes the title, but not the candybars :o |
| 18:55.00 | [Ammo] | durcyn: blame mick :p |
| 18:55.01 | [Ammo] | mikk evn |
| 18:55.11 | durcyn | ~kick mikk |
| 18:55.12 | purl | ACTION kicks mikk |
| 18:55.19 | [Ammo] | it should scale them the next time they spawn though |
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| 18:58.30 | Ominous | kaelten: wow great script |
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| 18:59.12 | CIA-22 | 03ammo * r42345 10oRA2/Optional/CoolDown.lua: oRA2: scale candybars for cooldown with the monitor |
| 18:59.19 | Kaelten | Ominous: ? |
| 18:59.56 | Ominous | [19:44] <@Kaelten> ok found a way to do pre-commit compilation |
| 19:00.09 | CIA-22 | 03ammo * r42346 10oRA2/Optional/CoolDown.lua: oRA2: bugfix |
| 19:01.03 | CIA-22 | 03ammo * r42347 10oRA2/Optional/CoolDown.lua: oRA2: argh I suck |
| 19:01.19 | Mikk | Funkeh`: hmm? |
| 19:01.43 | Funkeh` | whoever is doing cooldownfu it won't work unless you use al2.2 |
| 19:01.51 | [Ammo] | it's an ancient thing |
| 19:01.54 | sag_ich_nicht | ~slap [Ammo] |
| 19:01.54 | purl | ACTION slaps [Ammo], keep your grubby fingers to yourself! |
| 19:01.57 | [Ammo] | dunno why people even use that |
| 19:03.21 | Mikk | durcyn: oops, that's what i get for not actually having bars to test with :> |
| 19:03.31 | [Ammo] | Mikk: I solved the problem :p |
| 19:03.44 | Mikk | well i kinda dropped the ball when you told me you'd be doing something global |
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| 19:03.59 | [Ammo] | Mikk: we were talking different things |
| 19:04.06 | [Ammo] | I was talking about all the scrollable sortable windows |
| 19:04.16 | [Ammo] | you were thinking the cooldown and res monitor |
| 19:04.17 | Mikk | aye and i told you i was talking about the bar windows :> |
| 19:04.25 | [Ammo] | there is only 1 bar window |
| 19:04.27 | Mikk | so you're not doing anything about the bar windows then? |
| 19:04.38 | [Ammo] | there is only the cooldown monitor |
| 19:04.49 | [Ammo] | but the MT's/PT's will be cleaned some more |
| 19:04.50 | Mikk | oh er |
| 19:04.54 | [Ammo] | they share a fuckton of code |
| 19:05.04 | Mikk | yeah ok, res monitor isn't a bar window |
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| 19:05.22 | Mikk | but res monitor, cd monitor, mt/pt windows share a lot of commonalities |
| 19:05.23 | Mikk | in the outer frame |
| 19:05.37 | [Ammo] | yeah, I guess I could abstract that a bit |
| 19:05.47 | Mikk | they all have a text doowinkle at the top. they can all be scaled, moved, alpha:d |
| 19:05.51 | Mikk | their settings are all saved |
| 19:05.52 | Ominous | is anyone here from london, uk? |
| 19:05.54 | Mikk | etc |
| 19:06.14 | [Ammo] | yeah |
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| 19:10.40 | Mikk | DewDrop.toc: ## X-AceLibrary-Dewdrop-2.0: true |
| 19:10.44 | Mikk | ^ what's that? |
| 19:10.55 | [Ammo] | that's read by acelibrary |
| 19:10.59 | [Ammo] | so it know what addon to load |
| 19:11.12 | [Ammo] | when someone does: AceLibrary("Dewdrop-2.0") |
| 19:11.22 | Mikk | ahh |
| 19:11.34 | [Ammo] | makeing all optdeps to proper libs obsolete |
| 19:18.54 | Gnarfoz | <@[Ammo]> so it know what addon to load <-- you mean the other way around, right? |
| 19:19.10 | [Ammo] | no |
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| 19:19.36 | Gnarfoz | you really mean what addons to load that use (in the example) Dewdrop-2.0? |
| 19:19.44 | Gnarfoz | when does that happen Oo |
| 19:19.45 | Matrix110 | no |
| 19:19.47 | [Ammo] | no |
| 19:19.58 | [Ammo] | 1. AceLibrary loads |
| 19:20.00 | Jaxon | It identifies that addon as Dewdrop-2.0 |
| 19:20.01 | Matrix110 | It means AceLIbary will load Dewdrop-2.0 if its not loaded |
| 19:20.19 | Matrix110 | orwait nvm |
| 19:20.22 | Matrix110 | iam stupid |
| 19:20.25 | [Ammo] | although AceLibrary can also load another addon that ahs ## X-Embeds: Dewdrop-2.0 |
| 19:20.32 | [Ammo] | (I think) |
| 19:20.40 | [Ammo] | but probably doesn't |
| 19:20.42 | [Ammo] | meh |
| 19:21.32 | Gnarfoz | doesn't that require all addons to be loaded before acelibrary? (and also, acelibrary before all addons which is kind of impossible at the same time) |
| 19:21.50 | Punkie` | Ominous: what do you want to know about london anyway? |
| 19:22.51 | [Ammo] | Gnarfoz: not quite |
| 19:23.03 | [Ammo] | Gnarfoz: .toc information is available for all installed addons |
| 19:23.10 | [Ammo] | so acelibrary can enable and load libraries |
| 19:23.40 | Gnarfoz | during the load process? or is this just for LoD :) |
| 19:23.55 | [Ammo] | during whenever |
| 19:23.56 | Gnarfoz | I hate it when I get ganked while farming and don't have my pvp equip with me >_< |
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| 19:24.16 | [Ammo] | wow first makes sure all .toc info is available |
| 19:24.20 | [Ammo] | and then starts loading addons |
| 19:25.10 | Gnarfoz | hm |
| 19:25.47 | Gnarfoz | that leads me to a more general question... how can addons like !asdf even use AceLibrary before Ace2 is loaded? (obviously only an issue when not embedded) |
| 19:26.10 | [Ammo] | with optdep/reqdep |
| 19:26.23 | [Ammo] | that way WoW makes sure to load Ace2 before !asdf |
| 19:26.33 | Gnarfoz | yeah |
| 19:26.35 | [Ammo] | -> acelib is availble -> everyone happy |
| 19:26.47 | Gnarfoz | but will that work with this ##-AceLIbrary stuff? |
| 19:26.50 | [Ammo] | if the !asdf addon does not have optdeps/reqdeps it all blows up into pieces |
| 19:26.53 | Gnarfoz | without optdeps? |
| 19:26.57 | Gnarfoz | hehe ok |
| 19:27.19 | [Ammo] | due to the fact that every Ace2 addon sets it's optdep to Ace2 regardless |
| 19:27.22 | [Ammo] | etc |
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| 19:28.31 | [Ammo] | and those that don't are usually named with something later in the alphabet |
| 19:28.32 | Mikk | Gnarfoz: Obviously you want to optdep Ace2, or AceLibrary won't be loaded to begin with |
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| 19:28.40 | [Ammo] | which makes it work 'accidently' |
| 19:28.51 | Gnarfoz | yea |
| 19:29.24 | Mikk | I gotta wonder.. a lot of libs set MINOR_VERSION = "$Revision: 42233 $" |
| 19:29.29 | Gnarfoz | just using embeds would of course be the solution to all this :> |
| 19:29.31 | Mikk | does acelibrary have something to strip that out or... what? |
| 19:29.57 | [Ammo] | Mikk: what do you mean? |
| 19:30.18 | Kaelten | Mikk: I believe so |
| 19:30.19 | Mikk | Cause "$Revision: 1000 $" is less than "$Revision: 123 $" |
| 19:30.54 | [Ammo] | svnRevisionToNumber |
| 19:30.57 | [Ammo] | in acelibrary.lua |
| 19:31.16 | Mikk | ahh yeah there we go |
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| 19:31.23 | Mikk | cheers |
| 19:31.34 | Mikk | i was just worried about it accidentally working until we hit 100k commits |
| 19:31.40 | [Ammo] | naah |
| 19:31.44 | Mikk | then again i remember when we dinged 10k too and that worked |
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| 19:38.29 | Antiarc | Aaaaahahahahahah at the KTM troll citing buffer overflows. |
| 19:38.34 | Antiarc | l a w l freaking s |
| 19:38.43 | nymbia | wait |
| 19:38.45 | trh | Antiarc: yeah, he's awesome.. i had to answer to it =) |
| 19:38.46 | nymbia | i must see this |
| 19:39.54 | Antiarc | Sending a user agent is a security hole because I could send a string that's too long and cause a buffer overflow and crash WoW :V |
| 19:40.15 | Kaelten | bad antiarc |
| 19:40.28 | trh | Antiarc: hehe.. even if they call the c functions (sprintf etc) without checking for string size, sendaddonmessage is limited in size ^^ |
| 19:40.29 | Antiarc | I'm not the one that said it |
| 19:40.34 | Kaelten | that'd have to be a hella long string |
| 19:44.00 | Gnarfoz | nymbia: which files of PT do I have to edit and what scripts do I have to run afterwards, to add a food item that's not yet in there? (or rather, since I came to want to do this via Autobar not recognizing it... do I have to edit Autobar?) |
| 19:44.37 | Matrix110 | you can just add it in autobar as custom item |
| 19:44.38 | nymbia | Gnarfoz: edit data.lua then run compresssplit.lua |
| 19:45.00 | Gnarfoz | Matrix110: yeah of course, but that'll only solve it for me, won't it now ;-) |
| 19:45.15 | Matrix110 | true |
| 19:45.27 | Gnarfoz | nymbia: the other files with subsets of the entire thing will get created as needed? |
| 19:45.49 | Hjalte | Hmm, I don't see the proximity window in Bigwigs on gruul. Can i reset it somehow? |
| 19:46.00 | nymbia | Gnarfoz: yup |
| 19:46.05 | Gnarfoz | great |
| 19:46.11 | Gnarfoz | then I'll try to find the correct category :) |
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| 19:47.41 | Gnarfoz | cooked fish is not a "fish food", right? |
| 19:48.53 | [Ammo] | hrmf |
| 19:49.07 | [Ammo] | can't commit some violation things anymore wtf |
| 19:49.32 | Kaelten | ? |
| 19:49.33 | [Ammo] | Error: Commit failed (details follow): |
| 19:49.33 | [Ammo] | Error: MERGE request failed on '/wowace/trunk/Violation' |
| 19:49.33 | [Ammo] | Error: Can't convert string from native encoding to 'UTF-8': |
| 19:49.40 | [Ammo] | all I did was up |
| 19:49.42 | [Ammo] | edit |
| 19:49.45 | [Ammo] | like I always do |
| 19:49.47 | [Ammo] | and commit |
| 19:50.00 | trh | ammo: blame your editor ^^ |
| 19:50.12 | [Ammo] | it always worked |
| 19:50.21 | [Ammo] | grrr |
| 19:50.49 | [Ammo] | and editor says it's UTF-8 |
| 19:50.57 | trh | maybe it aint |
| 19:51.06 | trh | missing the utf-8 file-header or sth? |
| 19:51.24 | [Ammo] | that header is not needed |
| 19:51.29 | [Ammo] | and this file I've editted multiple times |
| 19:51.34 | trh | true.. hmm |
| 19:51.37 | [Ammo] | checking if some korean comitted or something |
| 19:51.44 | [Ammo] | they're usually guilty of fucking my stuff up |
| 19:51.46 | trh | maybe if you set the encoding to utf-8 |
| 19:52.14 | [Ammo] | last edit was by me |
| 19:52.18 | Kaelten | [Ammo] let me know if you can't get it working |
| 19:52.28 | [Ammo] | I'm converitng the file back and forth now |
| 19:52.33 | Kaelten | hrm |
| 19:52.35 | [Ammo] | but deleting things from it and saving it and trying to commit should work |
| 19:52.37 | Kaelten | let me try something |
| 19:52.54 | nevcairiel | i knew Kaelten broke it |
| 19:52.56 | nevcairiel | :) |
| 19:52.59 | Kaelten | try now [Ammo] |
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| 19:53.54 | CIA-22 | 03ammo * r42348 10Violation/ (Damage/DPS.lua Damage/Damage.lua Violation.lua): Violation: bug fix in sws spy and tweaks |
| 19:53.57 | Kaelten | I disabled the new hook, I Want to see if that was the culprit |
| 19:53.58 | nevcairiel | i dont even save the files with UTF8 BOM Header .. just with UTF8 encoding without the real header .. that works perfectly |
| 19:54.32 | [Ammo] | now it worked |
| 19:54.34 | Kaelten | [Ammo]: what was the fix? |
| 19:54.40 | [Ammo] | dunno |
| 19:54.41 | Kaelten | what I did? or did you do something? |
| 19:54.56 | [Ammo] | I changed file from utf8->ansi->utf8 |
| 19:55.02 | [Ammo] | and committed again |
| 19:55.12 | Kaelten | hrm I disabled the new pre-commit hook |
| 19:55.14 | Gnarfoz | nevcairiel: WoW will not recognize them correctly, then |
| 19:55.36 | [Ammo] | Kaelten: enable it and I'll commit one without converting |
| 19:55.39 | [Ammo] | see if I get the error |
| 19:55.45 | Kaelten | kk |
| 19:56.06 | Kaelten | try now |
| 19:56.08 | [Ammo] | k |
| 19:56.11 | nevcairiel | Gnarfoz: of course it does, always worked so far |
| 19:56.15 | Kaelten | try those same files if possibile. |
| 19:56.30 | [Ammo] | Error: Commit failed (details follow): |
| 19:56.30 | [Ammo] | Error: MERGE request failed on '/wowace/trunk/Violation/Healing' |
| 19:56.30 | [Ammo] | Error: Can't convert string from native encoding to 'UTF-8': |
| 19:56.36 | [Ammo] | ok will try same |
| 19:57.13 | [Ammo] | errors |
| 19:57.19 | [Ammo] | the hook is guilty |
| 19:57.38 | Gnarfoz | nevcairiel: why do people use the BOM header then, and where do all those 'reverting since xyz broke the charset' commit notes come from oO |
| 19:57.56 | [Ammo] | because some people use shitty editors that need the BOM header to work |
| 19:58.17 | Gnarfoz | huh oO |
| 19:58.26 | Kaelten | ok, removed the hook until we can figure out why |
| 19:58.26 | Gnarfoz | ok, I always thougt it was the other way around |
| 19:58.44 | Gnarfoz | i.e., wow needing it, not editors that default to ansi or whatever when it's not present |
| 19:58.59 | Gnarfoz | wowhead down, again -.- *s* |
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| 20:00.39 | trh | Antiarc: got a quick pointer in which file extra pet aggro is calculated? |
| 20:00.49 | trh | Antiarc: i'm testing screech now :) |
| 20:00.53 | Antiarc | ClassModules/Pet.lua |
| 20:00.55 | Ominous | Punkie`, how long it takes to get from paddington to kingscross by tube |
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| 20:01.29 | trh | Antiarc: tnx |
| 20:02.15 | Mikk | [Ammo]: I'll see what causes that error with your files |
| 20:02.56 | Mikk | Did you get an error pointing at a specific file? |
| 20:03.23 | Mikk | Ah bother I'll just commit the whole bunch to my svn |
| 20:04.20 | [Ammo] | the damage.lua from vio |
| 20:04.26 | [Ammo] | bugged with the pre-commit hook kaelten added |
| 20:04.48 | [Ammo] | anyway, time for Oceans 13 |
| 20:04.48 | Mikk | yer i wrote it |
| 20:04.52 | [Ammo] | hehe |
| 20:05.01 | Jaxon | [Ammo]: good movie, much better than 12, enjoy |
| 20:05.43 | Ominous | is there anyway of setting up a svn repo on an apache 1.3 web server? |
| 20:06.12 | Mikk | question is why you feel that you need to |
| 20:06.16 | Mikk | just run the svn protocol? |
| 20:06.36 | Mikk | "svnserve" |
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| 20:07.17 | Ominous | what does that do? |
| 20:07.19 | Cairenn | gaim crashed |
| 20:07.25 | Cairenn | sorry, wrong channel |
| 20:07.26 | Kaelten | ominous and no you can't |
| 20:07.33 | Mikk | svnserve runs a standalone svn server over the svn:// protocol |
| 20:07.34 | Mikk | which isn't port 80 |
| 20:07.47 | Mikk | the standalone svn server is more efficient than embedding it in apache |
| 20:08.29 | Kaelten | yes but has less overall functionality |
| 20:08.37 | hyperChipmunk | Cairenn: >8*( you never talks to us no more |
| 20:08.45 | Cairenn | I does too |
| 20:08.53 | hyperChipmunk | nuh uh |
| 20:08.59 | Cairenn | unh huh! |
| 20:09.09 | Fisker- | oh hai i just upgraded your ram |
| 20:09.11 | hyperChipmunk | ok |
| 20:09.15 | Cairenn | :) |
| 20:09.26 | hyperChipmunk | <3 |
| 20:09.37 | Kaelten | Cairenn :P |
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| 20:10.38 | art3mis | we're only allowed 1 "C" nick speaking per day |
| 20:10.41 | art3mis | usually tis ckk |
| 20:11.12 | ccKep | woot? |
| 20:11.17 | art3mis | noooooooo |
| 20:11.19 | Cryect | he said ckk |
| 20:11.21 | Cryect | not cck |
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| 20:11.28 | art3mis | now cair can't talk! |
| 20:11.36 | art3mis | you've ruined it for us allllll! |
| 20:11.54 | Cryect | the solution is Cairenn kicks ccKep? |
| 20:12.07 | Cairenn | heh |
| 20:12.09 | Cryect | or will it still be ruined |
| 20:12.09 | art3mis | and you need to change yer nick to Kryect ;P |
| 20:12.20 | Cryect | True true! |
| 20:12.37 | Cryect | anyways I'm going afk again |
| 20:12.49 | art3mis | otherwise we're doomed *intakes air* dooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooommmmmmmmmmmmmmmmed |
| 20:13.44 | Fisker- | damn |
| 20:13.47 | Fisker- | he forgot the duo |
| 20:14.23 | Mikk | Shite. I can't reproduce the UTF8 bug on my svn repo. It cats the file just fine. Then the lua compiler barfs on the UTF8 BOM but that's another story. |
| 20:14.42 | Antiarc | Sounds like you have a non-UTF-8 file with a UTF8 BOM |
| 20:15.04 | Ominous | oh handone the normal luac from lua.org cant cope with utf can it? |
| 20:15.29 | Mikk | no, but that's plenty fixable |
| 20:15.50 | Mikk | i'm wondering why i'm not getting the svnlook error that ammo was getting :S |
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| 20:18.45 | Kaelten | Mikk: what version of svn are you using? |
| 20:18.47 | Fisker- | done downloading doctor who, now to do it all over again :< |
| 20:19.28 | Mikk | Kaelten: svnserve, version 1.4.4 (r25188) |
| 20:19.28 | kaiden | Fisker-, ah are you catching up on the new episodes? |
| 20:19.28 | Mikk | could be my local system properties tho |
| 20:19.28 | Mikk | UTF8 locale vs something |
| 20:19.28 | Fisker- | yeah season finale kaiden |
| 20:19.28 | Fisker- | but the release is nuked |
| 20:19.30 | Chompers | i just saw that on the tv |
| 20:19.31 | kaiden | yeah it was great, you'll enjoy it |
| 20:19.39 | Chompers | let me spoil the ending for you |
| 20:19.45 | kaiden | stop chompers |
| 20:19.46 | kaiden | :P |
| 20:19.53 | *** kick/#wowace [Chompers!n=chatzill@c-69-181-47-80.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] by Kaelten (Kaelten) |
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| 20:19.58 | Kaelten | no spoiling! |
| 20:20.00 | CIA-22 | 03rabbit * r42349 10oRA2/Optional/CoolDown.lua: oRA2: Optional/CoolDown: Tweaks. |
| 20:20.02 | Ominous | lol |
| 20:20.07 | vhaarr | Saroz: hrm, what are you saying? |
| 20:20.20 | vhaarr | Saroz: bw uses the babe sound from banzaialert without explicitly setting it? |
| 20:20.20 | Fisker- | audio is like 3-4 seconds off |
| 20:20.22 | Fisker- | not good :( |
| 20:20.35 | Kaelten | Chompers: :P |
| 20:20.44 | Chompers | if you use mpc, offset the audio yourself |
| 20:21.55 | Mikk | vlc can do it too |
| 20:22.15 | hyperChipmunk | and mplayer |
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| 20:24.06 | Fisker- | Doesn't look like it's happening in the beginning |
| 20:24.17 | Fisker- | so the audio track is probably just too small for the video feed |
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| 20:25.07 | Gnarfoz | nymbia: how do I get the id for a recipe link? |
| 20:25.35 | trh | Antiarc: uhm... it seems that the petmodule doesn't get the screech done by the owl - it isn't casted, it just appears as "Petnames's Screech hits ... " and a "Mobname is afflicted by Screech" - any way to handle the afflicted message? |
| 20:25.58 | Antiarc | Oh, geez, hm. |
| 20:26.05 | Antiarc | I use UNIT_SPELLCAST_SUCCESSFUL for players |
| 20:26.16 | Antiarc | I'm not sure how to do that for pets. I'll have to do some event digging. |
| 20:27.29 | trh | Antiarc: actually.. i don't think there's a event for that |
| 20:27.29 | hyperChipmunk | there's a CHAT_MSG_PET_SPELL_something |
| 20:27.37 | trh | Antiarc: except for the combatlog ones |
| 20:28.29 | Hjalte | Antiarc, if someone has Threat-1.0 installed and is also using klhthreatmeter, does Omen then show a * at their name? |
| 20:28.42 | Antiarc | Shouldn't, no |
| 20:29.06 | deltron | mjc: so? how is it? |
| 20:30.35 | Saroz | vhaarr, nevermind, was my bad |
| 20:31.04 | vhaarr | ok |
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| 20:32.21 | trh | Antiarc: it's in "CHAT_MSG_SPELL_PERIODIC_CREATURE_DAMAGE" eventType= "Aura" globalString = "AURAADDEDOTHERHARMFUL" abilityName = "Screech" |
| 20:33.53 | Antiarc | Hrm. Okay, thanks. |
| 20:34.07 | hyperChipmunk | ah, that explains why; I only added CHAT_MSG_SPELL_PET_DAMAGE |
| 20:34.12 | rubik | wow.. wohead has really gone to shit since the buyout |
| 20:34.27 | Gnarfoz | nymbia: ping :) |
| 20:34.27 | hyperChipmunk | my pet only gets bite |
| 20:34.28 | rubik | what to use now instead? i'm tired of it being down |
| 20:34.42 | rubik | wowhead, i meant |
| 20:35.21 | Gnarfoz | wowdigger is quite fast and has a similar appearance |
| 20:35.43 | hyperChipmunk | the armory!! |
| 20:35.51 | Gnarfoz | yea, sure :P |
| 20:35.59 | Gnarfoz | how do I get an itemlink in 'raw'? |
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| 20:36.20 | Gnarfoz | I can post it to chat, but I want the hyperlink string :\ |
| 20:37.38 | hyperChipmunk | /print "[itemlink]" |
| 20:38.28 | Gnarfoz | ah, thanks |
| 20:39.51 | trh | hyperChipmunk: btw: sourceID is empty, as only the mob is afflicted without a message from whom |
| 20:41.49 | trh | hyperChipmunk: even worse: the event doesn't fire again when i recast screech and he still has it on |
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| 20:42.55 | trh | hyperChipmunk: guess the best way to detect is would be by just looking the mob got damage from the "Screech hits ..." |
| 20:43.16 | hyperChipmunk | probably get an aura_update for that |
| 20:43.46 | trh | good idea.. i'm checking |
| 20:45.19 | CIA-22 | 03gnarfoz * r42350 10PeriodicTable-3.0/data.lua: PeriodicTable-3.0: Add Stewed Trout (33048) to C.F.E.Fish.Basic, Tradeskill.Crafted.Cooking, TRM.F.Cooking, TRM.R.Cooking, RecipeLink |
| 20:45.25 | hyperChipmunk | omg baggins doesn't shift items anymore |
| 20:45.26 | hyperChipmunk | <3 |
| 20:46.25 | Zicon | I noticed, and immidiately wanted to turn it back on. :( |
| 20:47.48 | aen` | baggins added a feature to stop auto shifting? |
| 20:47.53 | Mikk | yes |
| 20:48.01 | aen` | nice |
| 20:50.00 | hyperChipmunk | no more selling epix |
| 20:50.15 | cryogen | how do you split the party frames in config mode? |
| 20:50.18 | aen` | even if its still set to autosize or whatever? |
| 20:50.21 | cryogen | in pitbull |
| 20:53.07 | trh | hyperChipmunk: UNIT_AURA is fired, but only if i got the mob targetted to which my owl is applying the screech |
| 20:53.58 | CIA-22 | 03toadkiller * r42351 10PeriodicTable-3.0/ (2 files in 2 dirs): |
| 20:53.58 | CIA-22 | PeriodicTable-3.0: |
| 20:53.58 | CIA-22 | - Added missing arathi basin item and more quest items. |
| 20:58.38 | Birdemani | ugh |
| 20:58.51 | Birdemani | accidently clicked on uninstall addons instead of update |
| 20:59.03 | Birdemani | just took me 30 min to go back thru the full listing |
| 21:03.51 | trh | hyperChipmunk / Antiarc: my testing so far with not enough samples suggest threat value around ~140 (independent of ap) per screech rank 4 |
| 21:04.03 | Antiarc | Fantastic. |
| 21:04.24 | trh | Antiarc: so if you /hyper get the screech support somehow in it'd be a good start value :) |
| 21:05.48 | deltron | mjc: http://www.nyctalk.com/apple-guerillas/ |
| 21:06.09 | trh | ~lastseen adirelle |
| 21:06.25 | hyperChipmunk | ~seen adirelle |
| 21:06.28 | purl | adirelle <n=gperreal@tok69-5-82-235-150-60.fbx.proxad.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 2d 20h 42m 51s ago, saying: 'night'. |
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| 21:07.10 | sag_ich_nicht | anyone here capable of speaking chinese? |
| 21:07.27 | Fisker- | can't see why anyone would want to move anyways |
| 21:07.32 | Slayman | ~seen Sprocket |
| 21:07.33 | purl | sprocket <user@cs6710203-59.houston.rr.com> was last seen on IRC in channel #debian, 1026d 23h 38m 41s ago, saying: 'egaMad^awy: Sorry. Hmmm. I forget. Its been awhile since I messed with that. Something to do with startx or xinit if I remember right. You need to hand it the proper variable to bind to a screen other than :0'. |
| 21:07.46 | Fisker- | unless you have excess money |
| 21:07.53 | Mikk | sag_ich_nicht: aen` reads&write japanese, which uses much the same .. erm.. characters |
| 21:08.07 | Fisker- | but hey the iN00bs probably have |
| 21:08.08 | Mikk | (what's the right word? idiograms?) |
| 21:08.09 | Slayman | night |
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| 21:10.11 | sag_ich_nicht | [23:07] <+Mikk> sag_ich_nicht: aen` reads&write japanese, which uses much the same .. erm.. characters <--well yeah but that won't help me talking to a chinese player |
| 21:10.15 | Fisker- | but deltron |
| 21:10.46 | Fisker- | Lets hope someone adminsters a darwin test to the iphone buyers |
| 21:10.49 | Fisker- | they will likely fial |
| 21:11.19 | Fisker- | <-doctor who |
| 21:12.54 | deltron | yesh |
| 21:13.04 | trh | Fisker-: the iphone itself seems nice |
| 21:13.31 | deltron | if you liked locked down 'smartphone' |
| 21:13.49 | trh | deltron: yeah.... but that counts as provider stuff in my eyes |
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| 21:14.15 | trh | deltron: i meant more like usability / "look n feel" |
| 21:15.59 | Birdemani | i dont see the point in getting that phone |
| 21:16.21 | Mudkipz | wtf is a darkwin test |
| 21:16.26 | deltron | either sheep or you believe the hype |
| 21:16.45 | *** part/#wowace Slayman (n=Miranda@e177252178.adsl.alicedsl.de) |
| 21:19.30 | Stephmw | deltron: 'smartphone' is right enough, it's missing the features we come to think of as standard in smartphones... it's just an 8gb nano strapped onto a 4-year old phone |
| 21:21.04 | deltron | heh there's no speed dial |
| 21:21.13 | deltron | that's funny |
| 21:21.53 | sag_ich_nicht | http://pastey.net/70111-28im |
| 21:26.04 | CIA-22 | 03biggates * r42352 10Mendeleev/ (Mendeleev.lua locales/zhCN.lua): |
| 21:26.04 | CIA-22 | Mendeleev: |
| 21:26.04 | CIA-22 | - Updated in Line 417: changed "iLevel" to L["iLevel"] to support Multi-language better. |
| 21:26.04 | CIA-22 | - some small changes in Simplified Chinese translation |
| 21:26.21 | hyperChipmunk | oh no |
| 21:26.37 | hyperChipmunk | localizers touching code =\ |
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| 21:29.55 | Ominous | argh |
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| 21:31.46 | Ominous | hosting company says i get ssh access but dont enable it |
| 21:34.25 | sag_ich_nicht | haha |
| 21:36.58 | Dotted | http://www.uncov.com/assets/2007/6/29/failboat-scaled.jpg <- ppl who buy an iPhone |
| 21:37.52 | sag_ich_nicht | Dotted not funny |
| 21:38.04 | Dotted | true regardless |
| 21:38.16 | Dotted | i was not trying to be funny either |
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| 21:43.42 | Ominous | why do some people use linux over windows? |
| 21:44.06 | Thrae | Ominous: For playing WoW, or in general? |
| 21:44.09 | Dotted | becuase it provides more control over their system? |
| 21:44.12 | Ominous | general |
| 21:44.12 | Ominous | and wow |
| 21:44.27 | nymbia_ | windows is pretty terrible |
| 21:44.32 | Birdemani | overall, ya it is |
| 21:44.44 | Birdemani | but most dont need the features that unix gives them |
| 21:44.48 | durcyn | because microsoft are a bunch of mindless jerks who will be first against the wall when the revolution comes. |
| 21:44.54 | Birdemani | well |
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| 21:44.57 | Birdemani | i wouldnt go that far |
| 21:45.00 | Thrae | In general, Linux out of the box is a far less buggy system then Windows, far more secure, and far, far more customizable. For WoW, you have the chance to optimize your system far better then with Windows (but only so far, and there are bugs). |
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| 21:45.16 | Birdemani | there are a lot of talented people working for MS, i know a few of them |
| 21:45.22 | Ominous | hmm thinking about trying it on laptop |
| 21:45.29 | Dotted | Ominous and becuase urpmi, apt-get, YaST and the likes are simplt zeh awsome |
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| 21:46.00 | durcyn | ms has a very long history of fucking over open standards in order to maintain their stranglehold on the market |
| 21:46.04 | Thrae | Ominous: Linux laptops are much harder then Linux desktops, because laptops can easily contain proprietary hardware, especially wireless chipsets |
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| 21:46.14 | Ominous | dammit |
| 21:46.21 | Ominous | dont want to fuck about with my pc as i need that |
| 21:46.35 | durcyn | depends on the laptop, though. what would you be installing it on? |
| 21:46.50 | Thrae | Ominous: I'd try Ubuntu if you're going to try anything on a laptop -- it's one of the most intuitive distros out there |
| 21:46.53 | Ominous | dell inspiron 6000 ( has wirelss) |
| 21:46.54 | durcyn | much of the lenovo and dell hardware is well supported |
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| 21:47.02 | Thrae | Ominous: And #ubuntu tries to be very, very helpful |
| 21:47.16 | Thrae | Yeah, you can even get Ubuntu pre-installed on a Dell ^^ |
| 21:47.24 | Ominous | and bluetooth ( not that i use it) |
| 21:47.36 | Kjellviz | hi there, recently switched from aguf to pitbull and mad props to the author! luuv em! But thingy is, when i choose blizzard dialog for borders, they are somewhat PINK! |
| 21:47.42 | Kjellviz | where can i adjust this ? |
| 21:47.47 | durcyn | the wlan may give you grief, but even if the native drivers fail, there's still that horrible hack known as ndiswrapper |
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| 21:48.01 | Ominous | that a irc channel? |
| 21:48.05 | Ominous | ububtu? |
| 21:48.07 | ccKep | pink > all |
| 21:48.17 | aen` | .. |
| 21:48.19 | nymbia | Kjellviz: change the color! ;) |
| 21:48.21 | hyperChipmunk | it's horrible hack, but it works quite well |
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| 21:48.47 | Kjellviz | nymbia: thats exactly what im asking |
| 21:48.50 | hyperChipmunk | the best kind of horrible hack =) |
| 21:48.51 | Kjellviz | where to change it |
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| 21:49.21 | nymbia | Kjellviz: global options maybe? |
| 21:49.29 | durcyn | hyperChipmunk: it lets hardware manufacturers continue to be lazy, that's never a good thing |
| 21:49.51 | durcyn | hyperChipmunk: almost as bad as the nvidia/ati binary blobs getting shoved into an otherwise clean kernel |
| 21:50.57 | Lyfe | otherwise clean.. hahahaha. :P |
| 21:51.19 | ccKep | Kjellviz: global settings -> colors -> frame colors -> border |
| 21:51.19 | sag_ich_nicht | "otherwise clean?" |
| 21:51.22 | Lyfe | there's no such thing as a clean kernel, imo. they've all got their own messes :) |
| 21:51.29 | Kjellviz | nymbia: ohh ye there it was |
| 21:51.44 | Kjellviz | nymbia: had totally ignored that menu >< |
| 21:51.49 | sag_ich_nicht | the linux kernel is such a big mess & fuss that they can never, ever change to the GPLv3 because nobody knows who wrote all the stuff |
| 21:52.03 | Kjellviz | ccKep: thanks but nymbia already pointed that out to me :P |
| 21:52.14 | sag_ich_nicht | (i'm not claiming other kernels aren't that way, thou) |
| 21:52.20 | ccKep | had to login first ^.^ |
| 21:54.09 | Lyfe | and thus, they won't get the very very nice ZFS for a long time to come. |
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| 21:57.42 | kebinusan | http://system76.com has some fairly decent linux laptops |
| 21:58.41 | Lyfe | funny though, seeing a linux discussion in a channel related to a game only released on windows & mac. :) |
| 21:58.59 | kaiden | Lyfe, lots of linux users run wow on wine |
| 21:59.01 | sag_ich_nicht | http://yro.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=07/06/30/1259258 i think the RIAA is going to get punched in the balls hard, soon |
| 21:59.02 | kebinusan | I play wow on wine |
| 21:59.11 | Lyfe | yeap. guess it works much better than it used to. |
| 21:59.12 | kebinusan | sag_ich_nicht: yeah I saw that earlier |
| 21:59.22 | Lyfe | (used to be too frustrating to deal with, imo) |
| 21:59.32 | vhaarr | Lyfe: The amount of people in here running WoW in linux is exceptionally high. |
| 21:59.42 | Birdemani | so cartogropher heat....what is that because it seems to cause a hard crash of the game |
| 22:00.12 | Kaydeethree | </3 the power grid down here |
| 22:00.26 | sag_ich_nicht | lol |
| 22:00.26 | hyperChipmunk | Birdemani: it draws a map over places you've traveled |
| 22:00.33 | hyperChipmunk | heavy texture usage |
| 22:00.41 | Birdemani | heavy 132 errors |
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| 22:03.14 | hyperChipmunk | yea, the author knows |
| 22:03.31 | hyperChipmunk | but i don't think he intended it as anything more than a proof-of-concept |
| 22:03.53 | Birdemani | heh, i just clicked on cart stuff becaues I tend to get the package, grabbed it off the updater |
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| 22:06.27 | trh | Antiarc: http://www.carebear.de/~trh/Threat-Screech.xhtml <- test results - still not enough tests, but 140 seems a real good estimate :) |
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| 22:09.37 | Ominous_ | thanks for directing me to ubuntu guys as it has "from the box" support for my wireless adapter |
| 22:10.48 | durcyn | Ominous_: then any distribution would work. it's the same kernel and userspace, just different packaging. |
| 22:11.00 | durcyn | Ominous_: but yeah, ubuntu's a good place to start |
| 22:12.05 | Ominous_ | is linux like macs as in there being very few virus |
| 22:12.10 | Ominous_ | for it |
| 22:12.43 | Ominous_ | also does norton work on linux? |
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| 22:13.04 | Birdemani | well, less distributed or less altogether is really the big thing about it |
| 22:13.14 | Birdemani | er, i mean both is the good thing |
| 22:13.25 | kaiden | i think what it honestly comes down to is amount of users |
| 22:13.37 | trh | in my opinion the usual linux user is more informed about security |
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| 22:13.44 | durcyn | most compromises are of the rootkit variety, not 'virus' per se |
| 22:13.45 | kaiden | and if you look at linux.. people dont send virii to linux.. they root shell it |
| 22:13.47 | trh | therefore doesnt open attachments "just to do it" |
| 22:13.48 | kaiden | and then turn it into a botnet |
| 22:13.52 | kaiden | and attack other people with it |
| 22:13.52 | kaiden | :P |
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| 22:14.32 | durcyn | as long as you're not dumb enough to run as root or expose services to the internet, you should be okay |
| 22:14.47 | kaiden | durcyn, dont play.. you know you run BitchX as root |
| 22:14.47 | kaiden | ;p |
| 22:15.02 | durcyn | no, i run irssi as a normal user. |
| 22:15.36 | Ominous_ | does norton run on linux? |
| 22:15.48 | liquiem | average user that irc as root wont be able to connect at all.. k-line (don't irc as root) |
| 22:15.52 | durcyn | Ominous_: no, thank fuck. |
| 22:16.56 | Vangual | latest symantec av (ex norton) has a (halfassed) linux client |
| 22:19.00 | Ominous_ | what protection should you use then? |
| 22:19.05 | kaiden | trojan |
| 22:19.19 | durcyn | iptables. |
| 22:19.28 | Vangual | brain 1.0? |
| 22:19.42 | Tornhoof | brain .9 beta |
| 22:19.59 | kaiden | or Sense of Humor for some that lack it here ;) |
| 22:20.09 | Ominous_ | :) oki thanks |
| 22:23.50 | yacoob | hm. |
| 22:24.16 | CIA-22 | 03biggates * r42353 10Mendeleev/locales/ (enUS.lua esES.lua frFR.lua koKR.lua zhCN.lua zhTW.lua): |
| 22:24.16 | CIA-22 | Mendeleev: |
| 22:24.16 | CIA-22 | - Updated locale files to support "iLevel" string |
| 22:24.27 | yacoob | bt3. alt-key selfcast not working. Where's the solution? :) |
| 22:26.13 | trh | lol.. WTF... a scryer guard banished my PET from the city =) |
| 22:26.16 | trh | how cool is that? :) |
| 22:28.00 | kenlyric | TOO SOON |
| 22:28.13 | kenlyric | was it a cat? |
| 22:28.21 | kenlyric | maybe they're not big fans of caturday. |
| 22:29.29 | nymbia | ~smite kenlyric |
| 22:29.29 | purl | ACTION wields the mighty blade of Argothax and cleaves kenlyric from crown to sole. |
| 22:29.38 | trh | kenlyric: no, a owl |
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| 22:30.55 | CIA-22 | 03fenlis * r42354 10Mendeleev/locales/koKR.lua: |
| 22:30.55 | CIA-22 | Mendeleev: |
| 22:30.55 | CIA-22 | - Updated localization koKR |
| 22:32.52 | CIA-22 | 03durcyn * r42355 10Mendeleev/locales/zhCN.lua: Mendeleev: drop some jerk's trailing bracket from zhCN locale. jerk. |
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| 22:34.11 | Gnarfoz | what's a good "allow multiple itemref tooltips" addon? |
| 22:34.21 | nymbia | links |
| 22:34.33 | durcyn | or MultiTips, take your pick |
| 22:35.28 | Gnarfoz | thank you |
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| 23:12.54 | CIA-22 | 03cryect * r42356 10Recount/ (Recount.lua Recount.toc Sync.lua Tracker.lua): Recount - Syncing is back in with a new protocol that hopefully should work a lot better |
| 23:17.37 | Thorgard | Cryect, for some odd reason the DPS counter on the Damage Done section of Recount's showing up with a negative number. |
| 23:19.56 | Cryect | You know how you get a negative number? |
| 23:20.10 | durcyn | Thorgard: quit healing mobs! |
| 23:20.22 | Funkeh` | someone seriouslky broke baggins |
| 23:20.25 | Jaxon | Shadow spells on undead mobs, you are supposed to be healing them to damage. |
| 23:20.26 | Funkeh` | :/ |
| 23:20.31 | Thorgard | durcyn, I ain't! ;P |
| 23:20.37 | Cryect | Someone else reported something else strange with DPS numbers being reported |
| 23:20.42 | Nargiddley | Funkeh`, that was me :P |
| 23:20.48 | Cryect | though wasn't negatives |
| 23:20.54 | Funkeh` | is it broke now or what? :/ |
| 23:20.55 | Nargiddley | whats broken for you ? |
| 23:21.00 | Funkeh` | i see 20 slots yet i only have 4 |
| 23:21.09 | Funkeh` | and when i sell stuff the slots don't disapear |
| 23:21.16 | Nargiddley | bleh |
| 23:21.24 | Nargiddley | thought i had that stuff sorted |
| 23:21.24 | Funkeh` | using all in one porfile |
| 23:23.11 | Nargiddley | i've redone the layout so slots dont jump around when selling |
| 23:23.25 | Nargiddley | but that was a big rewrite of that part so its not stable yet |
| 23:23.49 | Jaxon | Oh thank god, more than a few times I've mailed the wrong stuff to alts and the like. |
| 23:24.38 | Nargiddley | Funkeh`, all in one sorted or not ? |
| 23:24.53 | Funkeh` | sorted |
| 23:25.11 | Nargiddley | its not the keyring slots that are showing ? |
| 23:25.41 | Funkeh` | i have that hidden |
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| 23:25.45 | Funkeh` | +- thing |
| 23:26.02 | Funkeh` | but for example i sell an item in bags, the actual slot will disapear instead of the slots compressing together |
| 23:26.13 | Funkeh` | i need to close open again for it to compress |
| 23:26.19 | Nargiddley | thats the change i just made.... |
| 23:26.20 | Funkeh` | then it makes blank stuff at the bottom |
| 23:26.27 | Thorgard | Cryect, yeah, somethin's off. ;P http://that1swede.com/dps.jpg |
| 23:26.38 | Nargiddley | slots dont jump around when selling, one of the more requested things :P |
| 23:26.47 | Funkeh` | you kidding? |
| 23:26.50 | Funkeh` | wtb turn off |
| 23:27.15 | Funkeh` | but that doesn't solve why i have 20 empty slots now |
| 23:27.19 | Funkeh` | when in reality i have 4 |
| 23:27.21 | Nargiddley | keyring |
| 23:27.27 | Funkeh` | thats minimized |
| 23:27.40 | Nargiddley | the empty slots arent being caught by the rule |
| 23:27.58 | Funkeh` | *sigh* it worked fine -_- |
| 23:27.58 | Nargiddley | i see then i other with my other emptys, i'll get that |
| 23:28.03 | Cryect | Thorgard: hey you have negative HPS also :-p |
| 23:28.55 | Cryect | Hmm none of your numbers make sense |
| 23:28.56 | Funkeh` | can we get an off option? |
| 23:29.04 | Funkeh` | or did i mis it? |
| 23:29.06 | Thorgard | I'm spechul. |
| 23:29.18 | Nargiddley | no option atm, i'll get one in |
| 23:29.39 | Cryect | you spent 121% of your time DPSing, avg amount of targets attacked was 0.1 (which makes no sense the equation should have a minimum of 1) and -1.2 avg dots up >_< |
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| 23:29.59 | Cryect | at least when you take into acount the -21% healing your time adds up to 100% :-p |
| 23:30.04 | Nargiddley | for the keyring, edit categories and take off the ignore empty slots on the keyring rule |
| 23:30.11 | Nargiddley | i'll get that as default |
| 23:30.31 | sag_ich_nicht | omfg |
| 23:30.37 | sag_ich_nicht | this end sucks. |
| 23:30.47 | sag_ich_nicht | >_< |
| 23:30.59 | Thorgard | And the time's negative too.. I'm a time traveler and stuff. |
| 23:32.26 | hyperChipmunk | ... |
| 23:32.30 | Cryect | Guess I better shrink those numbers some more also :-p |
| 23:32.59 | Funkeh` | Nargiddley: ty :) |
| 23:33.35 | hyperChipmunk | by 'end' I hope you mean the end to that awful eyesore you just dumped into the channel |
| 23:34.05 | sag_ich_nicht | wait. |
| 23:34.06 | sag_ich_nicht | wait. |
| 23:34.14 | sag_ich_nicht | i take my previous statement back |
| 23:34.19 | sag_ich_nicht | best end in while. |
| 23:34.22 | hyperChipmunk | because if not, then the only 'end' you'll have anything to do with is your presence in the channel |
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| 23:34.47 | hypetech | heh |
| 23:35.05 | Cryect | Thorgard: hmm I think I know what happened, you relogged didn't you |
| 23:35.13 | Cryect | or reloaded ui in combat |
| 23:35.26 | Cryect | thats it ReloadedUI in combat in under 3.5 seocnds could cause it |
| 23:35.32 | Cryect | no wait that wouldn't |
| 23:35.39 | Cryect | Its restarting your computer |
| 23:35.57 | Thorgard | Cryect, not in combat for me, I don't believe. I may have reloaded UI out of combat while Conspiracy was in combat (those stats were for my wife's toon). |
| 23:36.00 | Cryect | Its using GetTime() for last time you did something |
| 23:36.20 | Cryect | Anyways I know how to fix it |
| 23:36.25 | Thorgard | Kewlies. |
| 23:39.14 | CIA-22 | 03cryect * r42357 10Recount/Recount.lua: Recount - Fixes a bug with combat time potentially going negative if you restart your computer with saved data still in and don't reset the data. |
| 23:42.28 | Cryect | Thorgard: those numbers aren't arial narrow either are they |
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| 23:42.51 | Thorgard | Probably not. ;P |
| 23:43.00 | Cryect | Heh, would explain the overlaps |
| 23:43.04 | Thorgard | Calibriwhatever. |
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| 23:46.16 | CIA-22 | 03nargiddley * r42358 10Baggins/ (Baggins-enUS.lua Baggins.lua): |
| 23:46.16 | CIA-22 | Baggins: |
| 23:46.16 | CIA-22 | - Hide duplicate items works again, now has the option of being per bag |
| 23:46.16 | CIA-22 | - Added option for items to always resort, this is same as the old behaviour if enabled |
| 23:46.16 | CIA-22 | - Fixed default keyring category to catch empty keyring slots |
| 23:46.17 | CIA-22 | - Applying category changes updates immediately again property |
| 23:46.22 | Nargiddley | Funkeh`, that should do it |
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| 23:52.25 | Funkeh` | thanks |
| 23:53.03 | hypetech | LFG AQ40 :( |
| 23:53.13 | kenlyric | nice fixes. |
| 23:53.31 | kenlyric | nobody wanted to do AQ40 when it was part of progression. What would make you want to do it now? |
| 23:53.35 | hypetech | I'll pay for the transfer if somebody with subtlety to cloak enchant comes to Trollbane-US :p |
| 23:54.02 | kenlyric | ah. |
| 23:54.09 | kenlyric | yeah, those enchants should be trainable. |
| 23:54.52 | hypetech | ya |
| 23:55.33 | CIA-22 | 03toadkiller * r42359 10PeriodicTable-3.0/ (4 files in 4 dirs): |
| 23:55.33 | CIA-22 | PeriodicTable-3.0: |
| 23:55.33 | CIA-22 | -- 33042:7200 Black Coffee |
| 23:58.12 | sag_ich_nicht | what. |
