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| 00:02.12 | Kaelten | my question is how do I get 18.99 Mbyte/s on a 100mbit port |
| 00:02.46 | Ominous | oO |
| 00:02.56 | Strigoi | it's gonna blow ;p |
| 00:03.00 | Kaelten | lol |
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| 00:03.36 | Kalman| | Maybe they moved you up to a gigE port so they can get more traffic to you and thus charge you more. :p |
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| 00:04.55 | Kaelten | lol |
| 00:04.58 | RogueShadow | :) I like assessment ... mmmmm assessment |
| 00:05.00 | Kaelten | don't joke like that |
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| 00:05.38 | Andune | kaelten: possible they have cacheing enabled for your site and they count cached hits against total BW as well? |
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| 00:06.57 | Kaelten | Andune: I don't think it would |
| 00:07.28 | Andune | kaelten: also is the 100mbit your physical machine hardware or simply the level of service you have paid for? |
| 00:07.29 | Antiarc | Holy beans, SVN is slow. Getting hammered? |
| 00:07.39 | Funkeh` | NYMBIA |
| 00:08.07 | Andune | kaelten: if the latter, entirely possible it's just QoS and they'll let you exceed your paid-for bandwidth for short periods of time as long as it's not impacting other customers QoS |
| 00:08.30 | Andune | after all, they make more money if you use more bandwidth, right? :P |
| 00:08.43 | Kaelten | I'm spost to be burstable to 100mbits |
| 00:08.53 | nymbia | Funkeh`: WHERE |
| 00:10.57 | CIA-22 | 03gagorian * r42542 10DrDamage/ (5 files in 3 dirs): |
| 00:10.57 | CIA-22 | DrDamage: |
| 00:10.57 | CIA-22 | - Fixed bug where text would hide on single spell updates (introduced last version) |
| 00:10.57 | CIA-22 | - Added functionality for class special text coloring (evocation is now mana bluish color) |
| 00:10.57 | CIA-22 | - Added mana restored by mana tide totem and mana spring totems to actionbar text |
| 00:10.58 | CIA-22 | - Turning updates on modifier keys on/off no longer requires reloading UI |
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| 00:11.47 | Kaelten | dalvarez: why is it downloading so high? |
| 00:12.21 | Funkeh` | Kaelten: seems files script has gone into pause mode |
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| 00:13.34 | Kaelten | removed the lock file it'll be back on track on the next pass |
| 00:17.49 | Gagorian | Yes, very unlikely. I -could- theoretically calculate the average threat caused by the spell |
| 00:18.06 | Gagorian | But, that would just add a bit of bloat for something that's not imo very useful |
| 00:20.38 | kebinusan | its 1 threat per point of damage except for some very particular spells |
| 00:20.46 | kebinusan | so no real point to it |
| 00:20.56 | kebinusan | I think searing pain is 2 threat per point |
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| 00:21.42 | Gagorian | kebinusan: Yes but I'd have to include threat modifier scanning, talents, buffs, items/enchants |
| 00:21.52 | Gagorian | Plus the few exceptions |
| 00:21.55 | kebinusan | ah yeah good point |
| 00:22.25 | Gagorian | It's just not worth it :P |
| 00:22.31 | kebinusan | yeah |
| 00:22.31 | steevdave | hmm |
| 00:22.51 | kebinusan | as someone pointed out to me before, if you're one spell shy of stealing aggro you may be skirting a bit close anyway |
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| 00:27.28 | Thorgard | Aerr.. why's WAU's updating down to a crawl? Is there a patch tomorrow or something that made all the Euroes go nuts? ;P |
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| 00:29.18 | Thorgard | Damn foreigners. |
| 00:29.23 | NeoTron | WTB 70 resto shaman for SSK/TK PST |
| 00:29.25 | Ominous | what patch? |
| 00:29.49 | NeoTron | why is it so damn hard to find (alliance) resto shamans? hrr |
| 00:30.20 | trh_ | too many healadins? =) |
| 00:30.22 | Antiarc | wowace was down all day |
| 00:30.26 | Antiarc | And it's getting slammed now |
| 00:30.27 | NeoTron | nah |
| 00:30.29 | aen` | anyone know why baggins is showing keyring in the mainbag? (even if no filters are present for it) |
| 00:30.32 | NeoTron | they spec enhancement or elemental |
| 00:30.56 | Kirkburn|afk | Blatant commercial break :) Anyone interested in Warhammer, Wikia is looking for people to help with the Warhammer Online wiki - http://warhammeronline.wikia.com/wiki/Main_Page |
| 00:31.09 | Wobwork | aen`: not sure. I ahve the same issu |
| 00:31.10 | Wobwork | e |
| 00:31.13 | aen` | and the main bag is missing the empty spot to drag items into |
| 00:31.35 | Wobwork | Kirkburn|afk: Are they offering accounts in WHO? =) |
| 00:32.26 | Kirkburn|afk | Not atm, but given that WoWWiki can get them, if the WH wiki gets off the ground, it's possible |
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| 00:32.36 | CIA-22 | 03fenlis * r42543 10DrDamage/Locales/Localization-koKR.lua: |
| 00:32.37 | CIA-22 | DrDamage: |
| 00:32.37 | CIA-22 | - Updated localization koKR |
| 00:32.51 | Gnarfoz | <Thorgard> Aerr.. why's WAU's updating down to a crawl? Is there a patch tomorrow or something that made all the Euroes go nuts? ;P <-- huh? EU maintenance is wednesdays, one day AFTER US maintenance. -.- |
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| 00:33.26 | trh_ | Gnarfoz: he's from texas :P |
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| 00:34.36 | CIA-22 | thrae-wow: 03generalmx * r102 10/trunk/TinyTip/TinyTip.lua: |
| 00:34.36 | CIA-22 | thrae-wow: TinyTip: Reverted back to accessing lines manually instead of clearing and |
| 00:34.36 | CIA-22 | thrae-wow: re-adding lines, now that I figured out that setting text to nil then using |
| 00:34.37 | CIA-22 | thrae-wow: GameTooltip:Show() removes the offending line. HealthBar is back (ClearLines was |
| 00:34.37 | CIA-22 | thrae-wow: removing it), and TT should overall be faster and leaner. |
| 00:35.31 | Chompers | hydross tomorrow, it'll be our first time |
| 00:35.41 | Chompers | anything we should know about? |
| 00:36.00 | Wobwork | pointy end goes towards the bad person. |
| 00:36.07 | Wobwork | handle end is towards you |
| 00:36.29 | Chompers | so that's where i'm going wrong :P |
| 00:36.30 | trh_ | Chompers: hf dieing :) |
| 00:37.01 | Kirkburn|afk | This is what you should know: |
| 00:37.09 | Kirkburn|afk | http://www.wowwiki.com/Hydross_the_Unstable |
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| 00:37.41 | Kirkburn|afk | I thought that pasting the article would be a bit OTT :P |
| 00:37.53 | Trancer | Chompers: do you have FrR and NR gear? |
| 00:37.58 | Chompers | sure do |
| 00:38.04 | Chompers | we've been gearing our tanks up |
| 00:38.08 | Trancer | take enough AoE power/locks |
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| 00:44.32 | CIA-22 | 03gagorian * r42544 10DrDamage/DrDamage.lua: |
| 00:44.32 | CIA-22 | DrDamage: |
| 00:44.32 | CIA-22 | - Fix to possible, though unlikely, issue of actionbar text not doing full update if a single spell update has been scheduled while switching actionbar pages |
| 00:44.40 | CIA-22 | 03fenlis * r42545 10BigWigs/Hyjal/Winterchill.lua: |
| 00:44.40 | CIA-22 | BigWigs: |
| 00:44.40 | CIA-22 | <PROTECTED> |
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| 00:48.31 | Kaelten | site feeling faster yet guys? |
| 00:49.25 | [gk]Hotphoenix | Gagorian did you take a look at the spellfire set bonus in drdamage? |
| 00:49.44 | Gagorian | What about ot? |
| 00:49.49 | Gagorian | s/ot/it/ |
| 00:50.10 | [gk]Hotphoenix | lol i'll screeny sec :) |
| 00:52.18 | [gk]Hotphoenix | http://img242.imageshack.us/img242/402/wowscrnshot070307015003mg5.jpg |
| 00:52.34 | [gk]Hotphoenix | the set bonus isn't reporting quite the right ingo |
| 00:52.36 | [gk]Hotphoenix | info* |
| 00:53.24 | Gagorian | Well, that's RatingBuster info, not DrDamage! |
| 00:53.47 | [gk]Hotphoenix | ah balls yeah i need coffe |
| 00:53.53 | [gk]Hotphoenix | nvm^^ |
| 00:55.03 | Garoun | grr can't figure out what ace mod I'musing that got updated recently that causes a echoing roar on occasion with my druid :/ |
| 00:55.10 | Gagorian | Garoun: Omen |
| 00:55.24 | Gagorian | Just turn sounds off, it's a threat warning sound |
| 00:55.28 | Garoun | figures it's the one thing I hadn't checked yet :P |
| 00:55.44 | Antiarc | Warnings menu |
| 00:55.52 | dylanm | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:55.58 | dylanm | Woops. mt :p |
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| 00:56.39 | rubik | Kaelten: site feels fast/normal here.. at least files.wowace.com does (all i tried and updated from) |
| 00:56.47 | Kaelten | good |
| 00:56.55 | Kaelten | we had a hella onslaught there at first |
| 00:56.56 | Garoun | Thanks Antiarc |
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| 00:57.20 | NeoTron | speaking of which |
| 00:57.39 | NeoTron | does it look at spellstrike / 2 piece voidheart procs too? |
| 00:57.58 | NeoTron | 5% chance to increase spell dmg procs |
| 00:58.20 | NeoTron | I know it's not clear / certain how it benefits dps.. but it'd be nice if it had another field that showed avg benefit of use/procs |
| 00:59.13 | sbu | Kaelten: go try that squid stuff ;o |
| 00:59.22 | mitch1 | will a local declared inside a function be constantly constructed/destructed upon each call? |
| 01:00.07 | mitch1 | in other words, is it worth declaring local vars outside functions if they are called many times? |
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| 01:01.44 | Gagorian | If it's a table, then it's worth doing |
| 01:01.55 | mitch1 | it's not. simple scalar |
| 01:02.18 | Gagorian | Well, if it |
| 01:02.21 | mitch1 | so better keep code clarity in this case? |
| 01:02.29 | Gagorian | 's not a constant and you set it each function |
| 01:02.36 | mitch1 | I set it |
| 01:02.40 | mitch1 | not constant |
| 01:02.42 | Gagorian | I wouldn't increase its scope |
| 01:02.44 | Kirkburn|sleep | I contend that updating ClearFont right after the server came up was completely sensible and helped. I have no reasoning or information to back that up, but I say it anyway. |
| 01:02.45 | Morghus | In Baggins, does anyone know of a simple way to keep items gotten from gathered: mining to not show up in enchanting? >.> |
| 01:02.47 | Gagorian | Just keep it in the function |
| 01:02.56 | Psylo` | what's the proc chance for the gemme who "get a chance to restore mana points" ? 1 % ? |
| 01:05.50 | Gagorian | mitch1: It's actually a bit faster CPU wise to keep it in the scope of the function |
| 01:06.04 | sbu | Psylo`: http://www.wowwiki.com/Insightful_Earthstorm_Diamond |
| 01:06.05 | mitch1 | ok |
| 01:06.11 | mitch1 | thanks |
| 01:06.45 | Psylo` | 2 % this is very poor :/ |
| 01:09.13 | vithos | Morghus: add a second rule to the category: PT3 set for gathered from mining, then set the operation to NOT |
| 01:11.05 | Gnarfoz | ~wau2 |
| 01:11.05 | purl | somebody said wau2 was http://wowace.com/wau2 |
| 01:14.12 | CIA-22 | thrae-wow: 03generalmx * r103 10/trunk/TinyTip/TinyTip.lua: TinyTip: Switched from OnTooltipCleared to OnHide, as TinyTip default shouldn't need OnTooltipCleared, and this fixes Cursor Anchoring problems. |
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| 01:17.05 | mitch1 | erm, how to save and quit in edlin? :) |
| 01:21.58 | CIA-22 | 03antiarc * r42546 10Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0/ (Threat-1.0.lua Threat-1.0.xml ThreatMobNameTranslation.lua): |
| 01:21.58 | CIA-22 | Threat-1.0: |
| 01:21.58 | CIA-22 | - Moved mob name translation into its own module |
| 01:21.58 | CIA-22 | - Fixed a number of translation bugs |
| 01:21.58 | CIA-22 | - These are critical changes, so previous versions have been marked incompatible. |
| 01:25.32 | CIA-22 | 03mitchell * r42547 10RangeCheck-1.0/RangeCheck-1.0/RangeCheck-1.0.lua: |
| 01:25.32 | CIA-22 | RangeCheck-1.0: |
| 01:25.32 | CIA-22 | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:25.32 | CIA-22 | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:25.32 | CIA-22 | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:26.09 | aen` | DrDmg blowing up |
| 01:26.26 | aen` | \DrDamage.lua:1714:bad arg #1 to string_match, expected, g ot table |
| 01:27.55 | CIA-22 | 03mitchell * r42548 10RangeDisplay/ (RangeDisplay.lua RangeDisplay.toc): RangeDisplay: Dewdrop support and ShowOutOfRange/CheckVisibility params |
| 01:28.09 | Antiarc | argh |
| 01:28.25 | aen` | my baggins is seriously borked |
| 01:28.30 | Antiarc | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=114781996&sid=1&pageNo=6 <-- can someone respond to that guy? I can't do it without looking like I'm drumming up support for myself by playing good cop/bad cop. |
| 01:30.13 | mitch1 | antiarc: did you do the sig generator thing? (I asked before, but then I had to go, so sorry if you answered already). (I can't post on US forums, sorry about that too :) |
| 01:30.20 | Antiarc | Yup, that's me. |
| 01:30.48 | mitch1 | antiarc: just a minor thing: would you consider renaming "Ice damage" to "Frost damage"? :) |
| 01:31.10 | mitch1 | that ice damage thing somehow doesn't sound right |
| 01:31.18 | Antiarc | Heh, I guess I could :D |
| 01:31.27 | mitch1 | same for crit and stuff, of course |
| 01:32.57 | mitch1 | gah, falling off the chair |
| 01:32.58 | mitch1 | nighty |
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| 01:33.36 | CIA-22 | 03bayi * r42549 10beql/ (10 files): (log message trimmed) |
| 01:33.37 | CIA-22 | beql: |
| 01:33.37 | CIA-22 | - Add tolltip.lua for tooltip functions |
| 01:33.37 | CIA-22 | - Added stub functions for tooltip handling |
| 01:33.37 | CIA-22 | - Added note on qtrackeroption.LockedTracker that this is disabled if CT_Core is loaded |
| 01:33.37 | CIA-22 | - Added function to change locale |
| 01:33.39 | CIA-22 | - Added new option to options talbe to change locales |
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| 01:33.49 | aen` | \DrDamage.lua:1714:bad arg #1 to string_match, expected, got table |
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| 01:37.07 | Darkkish | wow :D |
| 01:37.16 | Darkkish | so the wowace website. |
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| 01:37.37 | Darkkish | I'm trying to learn how to script wow addons and on the wowace website there is a tutorial but it appears to be broken... |
| 01:37.55 | Darkkish | when i tried what it said and checked my addonlisting it showed the name and all it says is "Incompatible" |
| 01:38.04 | Antiarc | That's an old TOC number |
| 01:38.08 | Antiarc | Make the TOC number 20100 |
| 01:38.13 | Darkkish | no it already is |
| 01:38.15 | Darkkish | that's not the problem |
| 01:38.27 | Darkkish | it doesn't say out of date |
| 01:38.36 | Darkkish | it just says flat out incompatible |
| 01:38.42 | abug | missing a zero? |
| 01:38.42 | Gnarfoz | that's just an even older toc number. |
| 01:38.55 | Darkkish | ## Interface: 20100 |
| 01:38.55 | Darkkish | ## Title: Welcome Home |
| 01:38.58 | Darkkish | nope |
| 01:39.00 | Darkkish | it's already 20100 |
| 01:39.29 | Antiarc | Have you restarted WoW? |
| 01:39.34 | Darkkish | yes |
| 01:39.39 | Antiarc | If you add any files or mess with the ## lines in the TOC, you have to restart the client |
| 01:39.40 | Darkkish | of course |
| 01:39.45 | Darkkish | i already did |
| 01:39.53 | Antiarc | Hrm. |
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| 01:40.04 | Gnarfoz | is your folder named exactly the same as the toc file? |
| 01:40.04 | Darkkish | i havn't messed with anything, it's identical to the tutorial, then i restarted wow after that and looked in the addons |
| 01:40.08 | Darkkish | yes |
| 01:40.09 | Gnarfoz | (sans .toc, of course) |
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| 01:40.32 | Darkkish | yes |
| 01:41.00 | kebinusan | finding 10 people who wouldnt screw up a warlock summon is harder than it seems |
| 01:41.02 | Darkkish | one of you guys could just take a look at the tutorial and see if anything is clearly wrong |
| 01:41.03 | kebinusan | I hate magtheridon |
| 01:41.09 | Antiarc | Link? |
| 01:41.25 | Antiarc | To my knowledge the only thing that would cause "Incompatible" is a WoW 1.x TOC number |
| 01:41.25 | Darkkish | http://www.wowace.com/wiki/WelcomeHome_-_Your_first_Ace2_Addon |
| 01:41.56 | Gnarfoz | Antiarc: that's what I thought, too oO |
| 01:42.18 | Gnarfoz | what's the most minimal of .toc files look like? |
| 01:42.34 | Darkkish | huh? |
| 01:43.53 | Gnarfoz | just in general, to see where the problem lies, a minimalist test would be good... like just ## Interface:, ## Title:, and the file listing |
| 01:44.10 | Funkeh` | we just 10 manned nefarian |
| 01:44.15 | Funkeh` | took 30minutes |
| 01:44.32 | Funkeh` | went with 16, 6 died on the landing from the breath |
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| 01:46.01 | Antiarc | Darkkish: What files do you have? |
| 01:46.11 | Antiarc | WelcomeHome\ and WelcomeHome\WelcomeHome.toc ? |
| 01:46.48 | Darkkish | what? |
| 01:47.49 | Darkkish | antiarc if you look at the tutorial, my stuff is identical |
| 01:48.04 | CIA-22 | 03bayi * r42550 10beql/beql.toc: beql: - Readded nekromant's esES notes in the .toc file |
| 01:48.11 | Antiarc | The tutorial looks right, as far as I can tell. |
| 01:49.02 | Darkkish | well you could try it and tell me if it works for you (I know that sounds like alot of work though :p ) |
| 01:49.27 | Antiarc | Maybe in a bit, testing some threat stuff ATM :) |
| 01:49.35 | Darkkish | kay |
| 01:50.18 | Antiarc | So WelcomeHome shows up but is marked incompatible? |
| 01:50.18 | Darkkish | yep |
| 01:50.57 | Darkkish | well i had my friend try it |
| 01:51.02 | Darkkish | and he says it doesn't work |
| 01:51.08 | Darkkish | same probelm i think |
| 01:51.08 | Antiarc | Trying it now |
| 01:51.24 | Chompers | that a huge reply in the Omen/Threat post Antiarc, lots of info |
| 01:51.30 | Antiarc | Works here. |
| 01:51.46 | Antiarc | Which thread, Chompers? |
| 01:51.54 | pakoz2 | how do you adjust the "alert position" of bigwig bars? |
| 01:52.05 | Chompers | the offical wow boards one Antiarc |
| 01:52.19 | Chompers | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=114781996&sid=1&pageNo=3 |
| 01:52.43 | Antiarc | yeah, I've been following that one |
| 01:52.55 | Chompers | how do people react to omen/threat overall, is it a positive reaction? |
| 01:53.00 | Antiarc | Very much so |
| 01:53.14 | Darkkish | Antiarc did you say it works for you? |
| 01:53.17 | Antiarc | Yeah, sure does |
| 01:53.21 | Darkkish | hmmmmm |
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| 01:53.34 | Darkkish | I'm new to this completely |
| 01:53.39 | Darkkish | no other addon would be conflicting right? |
| 01:53.46 | Darkkish | not with something this simple |
| 01:53.48 | Antiarc | http://wow.tachyonsix.com/WelcomeHome.zip |
| 01:53.51 | Antiarc | That's what I have. |
| 01:54.13 | Antiarc | No, "Incompatible" means that your TOC number indicates a pre-BC addon |
| 01:54.22 | Antiarc | Other addons shouldn't affect that at all |
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| 01:55.00 | aen` | anyone ever change shatt city factions with aldor/scryer? |
| 01:55.15 | Darkkish | lolol shatt |
| 01:56.16 | Darkkish | Antiarc you didn't include the libs |
| 01:56.24 | Darkkish | er... list them |
| 01:56.28 | Antiarc | Darkkish: No, that's just the bare-bones TOC |
| 01:56.33 | Darkkish | i did, thats the only difference in our script |
| 01:56.34 | Antiarc | Try that one and build from there |
| 01:56.47 | Antiarc | Can you put your whole TOC at http://ace.pastey.net ? |
| 01:57.12 | Darkkish | no that would be impossible |
| 01:57.19 | Chompers | Antiarc: i'd love a selective 'white list' for people show on Omen |
| 01:57.36 | Antiarc | Patches accepted! :D |
| 01:57.42 | Chompers | alot of fights i dont want to see everyone, just the tanks and myself |
| 01:57.48 | Darkkish | http://ace.pastey.net/70261 |
| 01:57.51 | Antiarc | You can filter out classes |
| 01:57.56 | Chompers | if that sounds like a good idea, i'm not sure |
| 01:58.42 | Chompers | it's okay when everyones playing a 'pure' class, dps warriors mess everything up |
| 01:58.53 | Chompers | druid tanks too |
| 01:58.59 | CIA-22 | 03bayi * r42551 10beql/ (beql.lua options.lua questlog.lua): beql: - corrected some typos |
| 01:59.02 | Darkkish | lol what are druids for? |
| 01:59.11 | Antiarc | That TOC works just fine here, Darkkish |
| 01:59.13 | Darkkish | balance, feral dps, or heal? |
| 01:59.18 | Darkkish | hmm Antiarc idk then |
| 01:59.26 | Darkkish | like... seriously... i have no idea why |
| 01:59.30 | Antiarc | To be certain, you are running WoW 2.1.2 6803 release, yes? |
| 02:00.25 | Darkkish | could it be possible not to? |
| 02:01.01 | Antiarc | Well, if you play on non-official servers or whatever, sure :P |
| 02:01.02 | Darkkish | er dude |
| 02:01.03 | Darkkish | hmm |
| 02:01.15 | Darkkish | it worked when i pasted your code in... |
| 02:01.18 | Darkkish | thats very odd |
| 02:01.30 | Antiarc | Perhaps you had an extra space somewhere or something? |
| 02:01.32 | Antiarc | *shrug* |
| 02:01.33 | Darkkish | there is no noticable difference >_< |
| 02:01.34 | Darkkish | idk |
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| 02:01.58 | Antiarc | Maybe a UTF8 BOM or something? |
| 02:01.58 | abug | and you said you did a full restart before? |
| 02:02.20 | abug | of wow.exe that is |
| 02:02.42 | Wobwork | Antiarc: posted a reply to the chap on the Wowforum omen thraed |
| 02:02.55 | Chompers | Kencoism |
| 02:03.06 | Chompers | why is this not in the dictionary? |
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| 02:03.47 | abug | because he's not the first? |
| 02:04.43 | Funkeh` | Antiarc: was just walking around and got ThreatNPCModuleCore :262: table index is nil |
| 02:04.51 | Funkeh` | 264 |
| 02:04.51 | Darkkish | yep full restart of wow.ex |
| 02:04.53 | Darkkish | exe* |
| 02:05.00 | Darkkish | multiple times |
| 02:05.01 | Antiarc | Danke |
| 02:05.54 | Andune | are there any standalone LUA WoW test environments, where perhaps all the WoW libs are stubbed out so you can test code without having to be logged into WoW and /rl ? |
| 02:07.10 | Wobwork | WowBench? |
| 02:07.18 | Andune | tho I realize this would be somewhat complex, as it'd have to load dependent libs and such.. but hoping maybe there is something out there :) |
| 02:07.18 | abug | wowbench! |
| 02:07.53 | Andune | yay for google. I'm checking it out now, ty. |
| 02:09.38 | Funkeh` | Antiarc: and again, im just standing still, completely random |
| 02:09.45 | Antiarc | Yup |
| 02:09.47 | Antiarc | Fixing it |
| 02:09.52 | Funkeh` | ok |
| 02:10.01 | CIA-22 | 03antiarc * r42552 10Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0/ (3 files): Threat-1.0: Made a number of fixes to mob name translations when translations aren't actually active. |
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| 02:11.31 | Wobwork | Just standing around eh? |
| 02:11.39 | Wobwork | Antiarc, you're not checking for hunters are you? |
| 02:11.52 | Antiarc | Damn, I forgot that |
| 02:11.54 | Antiarc | Lemme add that |
| 02:12.02 | Wobwork | You can never be too careful |
| 02:12.20 | Wobwork | One day you wake up, and look over and there's a pig in your bed |
| 02:12.23 | Wobwork | oh wait. |
| 02:12.38 | Antiarc | Well, I wouldn't call your mom a *pig*, per se... |
| 02:13.09 | Wobwork | that's not what your mother said last night, Trebek! |
| 02:14.25 | Gnarfoz | one day |
| 02:14.30 | Chompers | pigs need love too |
| 02:14.32 | Funkeh` | i had both your mums at the same time, hug noobs |
| 02:14.38 | Funkeh` | hush* |
| 02:14.42 | Gnarfoz | when Omen (or rather Threat) has reached a stable point |
| 02:14.47 | aen` | \DrDamage.lua:1714:bad arg #1 to string_match, expected, got table |
| 02:15.22 | Gnarfoz | add toggles to Omen called "check for class change" and "warn for twin emperors spawning" (doing nothing of course), just for kicks xD |
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| 02:16.40 | Wobwork | You'd add that in as a KTM collaborative module =) |
| 02:16.57 | Gagorian | aen`: Well that's interesting. What actionbar addon? |
| 02:18.00 | Gagorian | aen`: nvm |
| 02:18.16 | CIA-22 | 03gagorian * r42553 10DrDamage/DrDamage.lua: |
| 02:18.16 | CIA-22 | DrDamage: |
| 02:18.16 | CIA-22 | - Fixed error on line 1714 |
| 02:18.19 | kebinusan | But but what about the times Im farming mindlessly in SMV and the twin emps teleport on top of me |
| 02:18.56 | Gnarfoz | guess you'll be screwed |
| 02:18.56 | Gnarfoz | or |
| 02:19.02 | Gnarfoz | will have to continue to use KTM |
| 02:19.04 | Chompers | happens to me all the time |
| 02:19.15 | Gnarfoz | for all eternity. or until blizzard takes WoW offline ;) |
| 02:24.37 | Chompers | http://wiki.bmezine.com/index.php/Airbag |
| 02:24.38 | Chompers | hahahahahahahaha |
| 02:25.33 | Darkkish | does someone know of a good tutorial for learning to create addons in wow for a beginner (but not a beginner to programming) |
| 02:27.36 | Wobwork | I'd say go have a look at the code for some of the smaller addons |
| 02:27.41 | Wobwork | any of Tekkub's |
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| 02:31.08 | Antiarc | I learned by just looking at other small addons |
| 02:31.22 | Wobwork | code.tekkub.net |
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| 02:38.27 | Kemayo | So, returning from my weekend away... how's this Parrot thing doing? |
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| 02:41.53 | Chompers | it's too early to tell i think |
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| 02:49.32 | CIA-22 | 03namsar * r42554 10FuBar_FuXPFu/FuBar_FuXPFu.lua: FuBar_FuXPFu: Removed the options for the now removed short name option. |
| 02:50.43 | aen` | when is baggins gonna be fixed? |
| 02:50.45 | RogueShadow | I really like Assessment |
| 02:51.02 | anholt | am I hearing correctly that Threat-1.0 alone broadcasts to ktm now? |
| 02:51.29 | PProvost | Baggins has been broken for days now aen`. I'm about ready to give up on it. |
| 02:52.17 | Antiarc | Yes, anholt |
| 02:52.25 | Antiarc | It has to be turned on, though |
| 02:52.32 | Antiarc | ThreatToKTM and Omen can both turn it on |
| 02:53.01 | PProvost | So I don't need ThreatToKTM to turn it on? Nice. |
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| 02:54.26 | anholt | Antiarc: awesome, thanks. |
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| 02:57.15 | ckknight | hey all |
| 02:57.35 | Thorgard | PProvost, I haven't found a worthy replacement. :( |
| 02:58.08 | ckknight | how's everyone doing today? |
| 02:58.16 | PProvost | Hmmm.... just did 'svn import' on something and it isn't there. |
| 02:58.22 | Chompers | hey ckk |
| 02:58.25 | PProvost | Hey ckk |
| 02:59.21 | RogueShadow | oh, I finally got an interesting idea for an addon. Finally. |
| 02:59.27 | RogueShadow | tellme if this is new or not |
| 02:59.39 | RogueShadow | An Instance % complete bar. |
| 02:59.57 | RogueShadow | Based on all the damage the group has done. and how much you need to do to kill everything in the instance. |
| 03:00.02 | Neebler | more like, how much more trash to pull |
| 03:00.23 | RogueShadow | if it's trash you shouldn't be in the instance? well I guess if your looking for bop's for a friend |
| 03:00.49 | Kalman| | Er, trash is just a term for non-boss mobs. |
| 03:01.10 | RogueShadow | May be more of a novelty, but interesting none the less. |
| 03:01.15 | PProvost | e.g. "trash mobs" |
| 03:01.38 | duaiwe | Kalman|: "non epic dropping non boss creatures" :p |
| 03:01.55 | duaiwe | gah, stupid nickserv. >< |
| 03:01.57 | Kalman| | duaiwe: Depends on the trash. Kara trash with my pendant is still trash. |
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| 03:02.09 | PProvost | The pulls in most instances are known and with a wee bit of logic you could predict where people are for any given instance. |
| 03:02.20 | syeren | ckknight, any progress on Auras or :P? |
| 03:02.21 | NightHawkTheSane | Kalman|: yeah, i was just being snarky and quoting tigole. :P |
| 03:02.24 | PProvost | Anyone know why my svn import succeeded but isn't showing up? |
| 03:02.37 | Kalman| | NightHawkTheSane: Couldn't believe he said that. |
| 03:02.41 | ckknight | syeren: no I had work |
| 03:03.05 | syeren | Oki Doki. |
| 03:03.09 | aen` | whos the author of detox? |
| 03:03.09 | ckknight | syeren: and your theoretical aura system is too complex |
| 03:03.22 | syeren | Well then just fix their display, problem solved :D |
| 03:03.37 | Kalman| | aen`: Maia, I think? |
| 03:03.50 | aen` | getting an error on raid quits |
| 03:04.25 | syeren | Oh ckknight, I had to help 2 people set up Pitbull from scraft yesterday... |
| 03:04.29 | syeren | I fucking hate you :( |
| 03:04.49 | syeren | "So which menu of where am I on now? There's like 4 menus in front of me with different branches." |
| 03:04.50 | syeren | \o/ |
| 03:05.49 | kenlyric | well, now you know. |
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| 03:05.54 | kenlyric | don't help fucking idiots set up software |
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| 03:08.02 | NightHawkTheSane | kenlyric: agreed |
| 03:08.19 | NightHawkTheSane | kenlyric: also the reason i refuse to work tech support/customer service ;) |
| 03:09.30 | Acolar | hell(p)desk. :D |
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| 03:11.56 | CIA-22 | 03pprovost * r42555 10Violation_EffectiveHealing/ (. EffectiveHealing.lua Violation_EffectiveHealing.toc): Violation_EffectiveHealing: Initial import of Violation_EffectiveHealing (Excludes OOC healing ala SWStats) |
| 03:12.44 | ckknight | syeren: simpler than before. |
| 03:13.52 | syeren | No idea, I just knew you had it working perfect before you made Aura it's own module :) |
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| 03:14.21 | aen` | drdamage.lua:1:= expected near playerclass |
| 03:15.50 | ckknight | syeren: ...that was like 2 months ago |
| 03:16.09 | syeren | I know :p |
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| 03:18.55 | kenlyric | I've found that if you abuse users enough, they become better users. |
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| 03:19.05 | kenlyric | or, they stop talking to you, so it works out either way. |
| 03:19.16 | Chompers | sounds win win |
| 03:19.38 | kenlyric | users are like children. If you spoil them, they'll never grow up. |
| 03:19.48 | NightHawkTheSane | kenlyric: that's my theory with the general populace. |
| 03:20.35 | Kemayo | So, what's started giving a pulsing red glow around the edge of the screen upon some undetermined condition over the weekend? |
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| 03:20.57 | NightHawkTheSane | i've heard mutterings that its omen |
| 03:20.59 | ckknight | Kemayo: Omen? |
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| 03:21.53 | Kemayo | ckknight: None of its options seem to mention it -- unless that's what it means by "show warnings". |
| 03:22.00 | ckknight | no idea |
| 03:22.02 | ckknight | I don't use it |
| 03:22.08 | Antiarc | Yes, that's the warning |
| 03:22.12 | Antiarc | And there's a threshold setting |
| 03:22.24 | Antiarc | 90% of your tank's threat level by default |
| 03:22.44 | Kemayo | Ah, okay. It wasn't particularly obvious to me what it was corresponding to. :) |
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| 03:24.49 | kontagious | how do i install an addon? |
| 03:24.59 | kontagious | i copied the files to .interface/addons |
| 03:25.25 | ckknight | that's about it. |
| 03:25.36 | ckknight | you gotta fully restart WoW and all |
| 03:25.40 | kontagious | i did |
| 03:25.47 | kenlyric | epic fail |
| 03:26.22 | Chompers | interface/addons/addonname ? |
| 03:26.44 | Chompers | then enable it in the addon list on your character selection screen |
| 03:27.22 | kontagious | oh i didnt do that |
| 03:27.45 | Chompers | :o |
| 03:28.05 | Wobwork | Chompers: He does that to everyone |
| 03:28.13 | Fisker- | nah |
| 03:28.16 | Fisker- | serverfirst |
| 03:29.24 | Fisker- | gonna go to work though :( |
| 03:29.38 | Fisker- | oh bai |
| 03:29.53 | Chompers | baiiii |
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| 03:31.47 | kontagious | how do i get it to show where my quests are, like monsters and certain places |
| 03:32.09 | kontagious | oh nm |
| 03:32.13 | ckknight | Cartographer_Quests? |
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| 03:35.00 | Chompers | :/ |
| 03:35.12 | Chompers | what addon was he using...was it even ace? |
| 03:36.24 | ckknight | no damn idea |
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| 03:37.03 | CIA-22 | 03funkydude * r42556 10BigWigs_Azeroth/ (Emeriss.lua Lethon.lua Taerar.lua Ysondre.lua): BigWigs_Azeroth: revert noxious breath detection method |
| 03:37.23 | CIA-22 | 03arkayenro * r42557 10ArkInventory/ (4 files): |
| 03:37.23 | CIA-22 | ArkInventory: |
| 03:37.23 | CIA-22 | - v2.02 |
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| 03:41.49 | CIA-22 | 03funkydude * r42558 10BigWigs_Azeroth/ (Emeriss.lua Ysondre.lua): BigWigs_Azeroth: cleanup some merging |
| 03:43.34 | art3mis | okay so |
| 03:43.35 | CIA-22 | 03roartindon * r42559 10TagCompiler-1.0/TagCompiler-1.0/TagCompiler-1.0.lua: |
| 03:43.35 | CIA-22 | TagCompiler-1.0 |
| 03:43.35 | CIA-22 | - ParseLogical fixed for cases of badly formed mix of escaped and unescaped "|" |
| 03:43.39 | art3mis | Transformers was fucking awesome |
| 03:43.59 | Funkeh` | really? |
| 03:44.02 | art3mis | yes |
| 03:44.13 | art3mis | all the great lines WICKED fights |
| 03:44.19 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r42560 10Parrot/Events.lua: Parrot_Events - add skill damage/dots |
| 03:44.33 | CIA-22 | 03bam * r42561 10ItemPrice-1.0/ItemPrice-1.0/ItemPrice-1.0.lua: |
| 03:44.33 | CIA-22 | ItemPrice-1.0: |
| 03:44.34 | CIA-22 | - Price updates |
| 03:44.44 | art3mis | although there were minor issues, like devastator being a big tank instead of the combination of constructicons |
| 03:44.58 | art3mis | and they kill Jazz, who didnt sound like the tv jazz anyways |
| 03:45.07 | Killmore | 7% vashj :( |
| 03:46.15 | art3mis | the stylings of it was more like Transformers Next Gen |
| 03:46.24 | art3mis | that sorta look to the robots |
| 03:46.29 | art3mis | but it was still awesome |
| 03:46.55 | art3mis | in the fight with optimus and megatron they even used dialog directly from the death of optimus prime |
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| 03:47.46 | Bam__ | anyone know anything about why SVN denies changes to a files called items.csv? |
| 03:47.47 | art3mis | hehe |
| 03:47.51 | ckknight | optimus prime's a jew |
| 03:47.58 | art3mis | even without knowing what transformers was it's a great movie |
| 03:48.01 | Wobwork | Bam__: There are limitations on the file extension now |
| 03:48.07 | ckknight | Bam__: yea, only certain extensions are available |
| 03:48.13 | ckknight | Bam__: why do you want to put an csv up? |
| 03:48.15 | Wobwork | To prevent keyloggers and such |
| 03:48.25 | Bam__ | 1) Why not? |
| 03:48.32 | Bam__ | 2) I have had it for a long time |
| 03:48.34 | Bam__ | :) |
| 03:48.58 | Bam__ | it's a plain text file |
| 03:49.29 | ckknight | what's the csv for? |
| 03:49.52 | Bam__ | I believe it traditionally stands for Comma Seperated Values |
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| 03:50.08 | durcyn | no, what are you doing with it in this context |
| 03:50.09 | Bam__ | though mine is actually TAB-separated lol |
| 03:50.15 | ckknight | what's _your_ csv for? |
| 03:50.18 | ckknight | I know what csvs are |
| 03:50.29 | art3mis | lairhead |
| 03:50.36 | Bam__ | item data for my datamining scripts |
| 03:50.49 | art3mis | you just whispered me *ckknight* dude quick what are cvs' ? |
| 03:51.16 | Bam__ | but if I can rename it, that's fine with me of course |
| 03:51.30 | Bam__ | but I doubt I can do that either lol |
| 03:51.41 | ckknight | no, art3mis, just no |
| 03:51.47 | art3mis | i cant remember what purpose cvs's played in svn but im assuming its a throw back to the cvs control files? |
| 03:51.58 | ckknight | csv, not cvs |
| 03:52.15 | ckknight | Bam__: well, ping Kaelten, I'm sure he'll allow it |
| 03:52.17 | Bam__ | well if a kind soul would rename it to items.txt, I would be happy :) |
| 03:52.17 | art3mis | which would prolly be why that ext it blacklisted |
| 03:52.26 | art3mis | yes yes csv |
| 03:52.27 | ckknight | Bam__: what's the address? |
| 03:52.37 | art3mis | i passed a few cvs's on the way home so i've got it on the brain |
| 03:53.05 | Bam__ | http://dev.wowace.com/wowace/branches/ItemPrice-1.0/dataminer/items.csv |
| 03:54.20 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight 07dataminer * r42562 10ItemPrice-1.0/ (items.csv items.txt): .ItemPrice-1.0 - renaming items.csv to items.txt |
| 03:54.27 | Bam__ | thanks :) |
| 03:54.34 | art3mis | hax! |
| 03:55.05 | art3mis | ya know what transformers lacked? |
| 03:55.10 | art3mis | mroe transformers |
| 03:55.17 | art3mis | it should have less humans |
| 03:55.26 | art3mis | LOTS less |
| 03:55.40 | art3mis | like just emgan fox naked and the rest of the cast all cgi robots |
| 03:55.46 | art3mis | that would have been fine |
| 03:55.50 | SchmoZz | I actually enjoyed the human characters. I thought it added a lot to the film. |
| 03:56.03 | art3mis | it was filler |
| 03:56.16 | art3mis | did you know that some critics actually called the actting bad adn the ploit unbelievable? |
| 03:56.25 | art3mis | plot |
| 03:56.38 | art3mis | oh and did you see the trailer for the new godzilla movie?! |
| 03:56.47 | SchmoZz | Nah, there is a new one? |
| 03:56.51 | art3mis | yeah! |
| 03:56.55 | art3mis | set in new york! |
| 03:57.04 | RogueShadow | Yeah.... WAU if it doesn't fail is taking 20x longer than normal. or something like that. |
| 03:57.05 | art3mis | was a teaser trailer |
| 03:57.15 | art3mis | i "think" its godzilla vs mothra |
| 03:57.26 | RogueShadow | there's a new ne? |
| 03:57.38 | art3mis | ne? |
| 03:57.43 | RogueShadow | er one |
| 03:57.45 | art3mis | yeah |
| 03:58.02 | art3mis | at least im fairly certain thats what it is |
| 03:58.16 | art3mis | the trailer was a the rawr of godzilla and then explosions |
| 03:58.33 | RogueShadow | hrmm.. *checks* |
| 03:59.38 | art3mis | only just saw it tonight at transformers |
| 03:59.42 | art3mis | its not on appl |
| 03:59.44 | art3mis | apple |
| 03:59.47 | art3mis | just looked |
| 03:59.53 | art3mis | they didnt even give it a name |
| 04:00.08 | art3mis | just the production company, and teaser shots |
| 04:00.30 | RogueShadow | oh |
| 04:00.33 | RogueShadow | Ok. |
| 04:00.37 | RogueShadow | Yeah I just checked apple |
| 04:00.44 | RogueShadow | I haven't seen Transformers yet |
| 04:00.55 | RogueShadow | I don't know that its' out here yet. lo |
| 04:01.57 | art3mis | its awesome go spend money on it |
| 04:02.21 | RogueShadow | it doesn't start here for 12.5 hours. |
| 04:03.39 | art3mis | http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0432021/trailers-screenplay-E31688-10-2 |
| 04:03.46 | NightHawkTheSane | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WxMSmj32WLo |
| 04:05.08 | art3mis | yeah hahahah |
| 04:05.11 | art3mis | gotta love new york |
| 04:05.14 | NightHawkTheSane | "We came here in peace, we expect to go in one... ... piece." |
| 04:05.17 | kenlyric | oh man, robot chicken. |
| 04:05.31 | CIA-22 | 03bam 07dataminer * r42563 10ItemPrice-1.0/ (6 files): ItemPrice-1.0: - datamining changes etc. |
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| 04:08.33 | RogueShadow | I am excited about Assessment, Can't wait for it to be done in the author's eye's. |
| 04:09.50 | NightHawkTheSane | "eyes", plural, not possessive. :) |
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| 04:13.16 | NightHawkTheSane | "Son, do you know what color this phone is? Yes, I'll hold." |
| 04:14.43 | mikma | anyone plays DW shaman? |
| 04:15.20 | Roartindon | RogueShadow: It's far from complete |
| 04:15.26 | mikma | Roartindon: ROAR! |
| 04:15.26 | NightHawkTheSane | mikma: i was enh for a while, what did you want? |
| 04:15.35 | Roartindon | RogueShadow: And I haven't had any time to do serious work on it for almost two weeks |
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| 04:15.40 | RogueShadow | Roartindon: Yeah, I found the forum thread somebody started, I get the picture. |
| 04:15.44 | mikma | NightHawkTheSane: did you ever test anything else than WF buff on both weapons? |
| 04:15.49 | Roartindon | mikma: Hey, what's up? |
| 04:15.57 | mikma | Roartindon: i had a bug, you know that there is one? ;) |
| 04:15.59 | RogueShadow | Roartindon: I'm very impressed despite it being far from complete. Your making me very excited! |
| 04:16.11 | Roartindon | mikma: Heh, what is it? :) |
| 04:16.24 | NightHawkTheSane | mikma: no, not personally, but I've taken the word of many people on EJ's forums that say that WF5/WF5 is still going to be your best bet. |
| 04:16.28 | durcyn | "you're". contraction, not possessive. |
| 04:16.31 | mikma | Roartindon: http://wow.reaktio.net/c.txt <- entered combat in party |
| 04:16.57 | NightHawkTheSane | durcyn: ;) |
| 04:17.01 | mikma | NightHawkTheSane: i was thinking of trying WF totem + some other cool weaponbuff, but i'm not sure is it worth it |
| 04:17.03 | Roartindon | mikma: which version? |
| 04:17.09 | Roartindon | mikma: There were a lot of changes yesterday |
| 04:17.11 | rjp | Bam__, are there any really simple and lightweight addons that can tack ItemPrice-1.0' |
| 04:17.12 | Roartindon | Started by ckk |
| 04:17.15 | rjp | s data onto tooltips... |
| 04:17.15 | mikma | Roartindon: sec |
| 04:17.17 | Roartindon | That broke a few things |
| 04:17.24 | rjp | Bam__, s data onto tooltips... |
| 04:17.25 | Roartindon | I went through and I think I've redone it all |
| 04:17.32 | mikma | Roartindon: Revision: 42542 |
| 04:17.35 | Bam__ | rjp: sorry what do you mean? |
| 04:17.38 | NightHawkTheSane | mikma: WF Totem isn't worth it, it's only one attack and MH only. WF5 will be invariably better. |
| 04:17.58 | mikma | NightHawkTheSane: thanks for the info. then i wont even try it |
| 04:18.10 | rjp | Bam__, as best as I can tell, you just have a library to return prices via a funciton call. Is there an addon that can make this call and put the result into the tooltip? |
| 04:18.22 | rjp | Bam__, so you hover over an item and it gives you the sell value |
| 04:18.23 | CIA-22 | 03roartindon * r42564 10Assessment/Modules/Threat.lua: Assessment - Fixed error on line 67 of Threat |
| 04:18.24 | Roartindon | mikma: ^^^ |
| 04:18.29 | mikma | Roartindon: neat <3 |
| 04:18.36 | Bam__ | rjp: yea there is one :) |
| 04:18.40 | NightHawkTheSane | mikma: as far as OH is concerned, Rockbiter doesn't scale well enough and is reduced by armor, and Flametongue will be crap in enh gear (no +dmg/spellcrit), so yeah, WF is still your best option there :\ |
| 04:18.47 | rjp | Bam__, could you tell me the name of it, please? |
| 04:18.49 | Bam__ | rjp ItemPriceTooltip by yours truly :) |
| 04:18.55 | rjp | Bam__, aptly named |
| 04:18.59 | Bam__ | hehe |
| 04:19.10 | mikma | NightHawkTheSane: umf :I good to know :) thanks again |
| 04:19.28 | NightHawkTheSane | mikma: np. :) there's threads in EJ that go into a lot more depth if you're desperately curious :) |
| 04:19.33 | Bam__ | rjp: and it is very lightweight.. feature-wise too :D |
| 04:20.18 | RogueShadow | I did 2 runs through RFD with Assessment, it was a hit. Everybody loved it. Going to be using it even if it's not ready. Like it mattes, I don't raid yet. If something breaks it's just me who suffers. |
| 04:20.35 | rjp | Bam__, I was looking for something like this earlier. I hate when I fill my inventory and have to start guessing at which gray to drop to pick up this other gray, etc |
| 04:20.36 | mikma | NightHawkTheSane: nah, this was good enough info for me :) |
| 04:20.48 | NightHawkTheSane | :) |
| 04:20.50 | RogueShadow | DamageMeters was the only thing I liked until now, And that's only maintained, not developed. It's kinda empty. |
| 04:20.53 | mikma | got my draenei shaman to lvl60 yesterday, yey |
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| 04:21.04 | RogueShadow | Assessment == way better. |
| 04:21.08 | Thorgard | RogueShadow, have you checked out Violation and Recount? |
| 04:21.10 | Bam__ | rjp: yea, well there are several sell value addons like mine.. choose what you like best :) |
| 04:21.35 | RogueShadow | Thorgard: Recount, I think I tried along time ago, I should try again. Violation. Ok you got me I barely tried it. |
| 04:21.36 | Bam__ | rjp: I consider the main strength of mine to be accuracy |
| 04:21.38 | NightHawkTheSane | mikma: also, since it's relevant, you want as slow an off hand as possible. Even if you sacrifice dps to get a slower speed, it'll result in higher net dps. |
| 04:21.58 | RogueShadow | I don't care. i'm excited. |
| 04:22.01 | RogueShadow | don't burst my bubble |
| 04:22.03 | mikma | NightHawkTheSane: is 1.40 slow :P |
| 04:22.05 | rjp | Bam__, also, I can update it through SVN which I like, since I can just do an SVN Update on most of my Addons directory |
| 04:22.08 | RogueShadow | Ignorance is bliss |
| 04:22.14 | RogueShadow | BLISS I TELL YOU |
| 04:22.16 | NightHawkTheSane | mikma: no. :P ~2.5 is slow ;) |
| 04:22.27 | Bam__ | rjp: yea it's nice :) |
| 04:22.39 | mikma | NightHawkTheSane: currently using questreward daggers |
| 04:22.48 | mikma | NightHawkTheSane: hoping to get better ones soon |
| 04:22.56 | NightHawkTheSane | mikma: *nod* its nto as big a deal when leveling up. |
| 04:23.07 | mikma | was a bitch to level the daggers lol |
| 04:23.10 | NightHawkTheSane | because you'll be using whatever you can get your hands on, but something to keep in mind |
| 04:23.13 | mikma | from 250 to 275+ |
| 04:23.14 | art3mis | i wish i had a roartindon trinket, that would make my priest awesome! |
| 04:23.18 | RogueShadow | I'm trying to get a [Coldrage dagger] |
| 04:23.34 | Bam__ | does anyone know about the new site www.wowdigger.com? Seems very much like wowhead :P |
| 04:23.48 | RogueShadow | Bam__: is it yours |
| 04:23.49 | art3mis | yeah for some reason i got me an email about it about 15 mins ago |
| 04:23.52 | Bam__ | no |
| 04:24.24 | art3mis | i'd rather have wowhead than a wowdigger ;P |
| 04:24.38 | Bam__ | either it's the same people behind it or it's a shameless clone |
| 04:24.49 | mikma | Bam__: wowdigger is ex. ui.worldofwar.com's site |
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| 04:24.55 | art3mis | i think can blame nymbia on this one |
| 04:25.04 | art3mis | ex? |
| 04:25.09 | Bam__ | Mikma: really? |
| 04:25.12 | mikma | it changed it's name |
| 04:25.21 | mikma | really really, i got a mail about it some days ago |
| 04:25.25 | art3mis | to get away from the gameplay or whatever purchase? |
| 04:25.58 | Bam__ | well then it seriously is a rip from wowhead.. just look at the filters |
| 04:27.56 | RogueShadow | Do those sites normally have the same ID pointing to the item |
| 04:28.00 | ckknight | alright, back |
| 04:28.00 | RogueShadow | because they do there |
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| 04:28.26 | Bam__ | yea they use WoW's item ID's |
| 04:28.41 | Bam__ | normally |
| 04:28.51 | RogueShadow | yeah. |
| 04:28.52 | RogueShadow | ok |
| 04:30.57 | rjp | Bam__, I'm a little confused by your last post in the thread, does ItemPriceTooltip show sell values for quest items? You made an alternative suggestion, so I'm not clear if it actually does or does not. |
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| 04:31.18 | Bam__ | rjp: you mean VendorBait? |
| 04:31.45 | rjp | Bam__, yeah, you suggested using that for quest rewards, but you also said that your addon should have the values. |
| 04:31.59 | Bam__ | rjp: that's just an addon that uses can highlight the highest priced quest item... but it requires a sell value addon to do it... like ItemPriceTooltip |
| 04:32.32 | rjp | Bam__, so yours will still display the sell price, VendorBait will just highlight the best one to take for gold? |
| 04:32.36 | ckknight | so in doing Parrot, event displays are going to be tag-based |
| 04:32.59 | ckknight | MSBT does stuff like "(%n) - %a" for "(Mobname) - 50" |
| 04:33.00 | Bam__ | rjp: yes, price is shown in all item tooltips |
| 04:33.05 | rjp | Bam__, okay, thanks |
| 04:33.11 | ckknight | I was thinking of doing "([Name]) - [Amount]" |
| 04:33.18 | ckknight | which is clearer, even if it's more verbose |
| 04:33.24 | RogueShadow | Roartindon: Seems to me your first priority was to capture capture capture all the data. And then decide what to do with it. after you have everything possible to gather. I like that. |
| 04:33.29 | ckknight | any thoughts? |
| 04:33.40 | Bam__ | you made a new addon...?!? |
| 04:34.18 | ckknight | Bam__: yea |
| 04:34.20 | RogueShadow | ckknight: That's great. It's a pain to remember those % thing's all the time. |
| 04:34.30 | Bam__ | ckknight: how on earth do you get the time lol |
| 04:34.31 | RogueShadow | ckknight: your tags are easy to read. clear. and easy to use as well. |
| 04:34.38 | ckknight | RogueShadow: also, all available tags will be there, easy to see |
| 04:34.57 | ckknight | e.g. you have [Name], [Amount], [Skill], and [Type] available |
| 04:35.00 | ckknight | with descriptions of each |
| 04:35.30 | kaiden | someone please tell me there's an addon that can ignore Doom Lord Kazzak's yells |
| 04:35.33 | kaiden | he's driving me batshit |
| 04:35.33 | RogueShadow | can font scaling change dynamically? Say get bigger at the middle of the path and smaller at the end. |
| 04:35.44 | RogueShadow | Not really effective, but I thought it might look neat. |
| 04:35.50 | ckknight | RogueShadow: hrm... theoretically, but honestly, it's not worth it |
| 04:35.55 | RogueShadow | Yeah. |
| 04:36.03 | ckknight | you can have arbitrary positioning, though |
| 04:36.07 | ckknight | register your own animation |
| 04:36.14 | ckknight | very simple and powerful |
| 04:36.14 | RogueShadow | That's new. And cool. |
| 04:36.40 | ckknight | I was thinking about an "explosion" animation, e.g. down-to-up, but in random directions |
| 04:36.45 | RogueShadow | Like the path tools in draw programs. Even the simplest of those tools is more than enough for extremely robust animation |
| 04:36.47 | Sole | whats the tooltip addon of the ace2 community? |
| 04:36.48 | ckknight | etc. |
| 04:36.59 | ckknight | Sole: well, I wrote CowTip recently |
| 04:37.13 | RogueShadow | yeah CowTip it really tips the cow. |
| 04:37.21 | Sole | alright then |
| 04:37.29 | Sole | btw Im loving the naming scheme ck |
| 04:37.34 | ckknight | :-) |
| 04:37.41 | Bam__ | :D |
| 04:37.52 | RogueShadow | Hey leave his personal life out of it |
| 04:37.56 | ckknight | Bam__: easy names that are common words |
| 04:37.58 | Bam__ | hehe |
| 04:38.10 | ckknight | everyone knows how to spell it |
| 04:38.11 | Sole | and you made fun of me for making an addon called Soap |
| 04:38.20 | ckknight | wtf is Soap? |
| 04:38.21 | Bam__ | I had a boss once that insisted all servers should have bird names |
| 04:38.22 | RogueShadow | well what did it do Sole? |
| 04:38.34 | Sole | it was my enemy cast bar addon |
| 04:38.35 | ckknight | lol, Bam__ |
| 04:38.37 | rjp | heh |
| 04:38.42 | Bam__ | he wasn't too pleased when we named a new one "duck" though |
| 04:38.45 | RogueShadow | ? I don't get it. |
| 04:38.50 | rjp | I was going to guess some sort of garbage collection addon |
| 04:39.02 | ckknight | Sole: I mean, if you had named it something like "Wallaby", then I'd totally understand |
| 04:39.04 | RogueShadow | aw well, I guess PitBull doesn't make a lot of sense either... |
| 04:39.06 | ckknight | but soap is just lame. |
| 04:39.18 | Sole | lol |
| 04:39.20 | Sole | fine |
| 04:39.29 | NightHawkTheSane | http://en.wikipedia.org/SOAP ? :P |
| 04:39.34 | Sole | Gladiator 2.0 will now be called Platapus |
| 04:39.46 | rjp | Platypus |
| 04:39.50 | rjp | isn't it? |
| 04:39.55 | Sole | its my name |
| 04:40.02 | NightHawkTheSane | meh, forgot the /wiki |
| 04:40.07 | RogueShadow | Isn't your name Sole? |
| 04:40.18 | Sole | I meant its my decision what the name is |
| 04:40.23 | RogueShadow | Ah |
| 04:40.29 | rjp | welp, the addon I just started writing is creatively name ScorchSync because I am sick of not seeing time left on Fire Vulnerability |
| 04:40.41 | Sole | and if it is an incorrect spelling then it is most definitely intentional |
| 04:40.47 | ckknight | Gladiator is a good name, imho |
| 04:40.49 | NightHawkTheSane | that was this close to being a really bad who's on first sketch |
| 04:41.02 | Sole | yeah I was just kidding about renaming it |
| 04:41.04 | Sole | I like the name |
| 04:41.11 | Bam__ | have you seen the "competitor" to wikipedia? http://www.conservapedia.com :D |
| 04:41.30 | Sole | I should probably get round to working on v2 of it though |
| 04:41.42 | Antiarc | Gladiator -> Cockfight |
| 04:42.01 | Sole | I like it |
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| 04:42.54 | NightHawkTheSane | Antiarc: lol, more accurate a name i have never heard. :P |
| 04:43.02 | ckknight | lol |
| 04:43.05 | ckknight | Cockfight would be awesome. |
| 04:43.09 | Sole | its done |
| 04:43.23 | RogueShadow | The first commandment is flawed |
| 04:43.29 | Sole | it'l be easier to start a new addon then mess with the gladiator files anyway |
| 04:43.34 | RogueShadow | It says dont' copy from wikipedia unless it was your original work |
| 04:43.38 | RogueShadow | but wikipedia doesn't allow original work |
| 04:44.38 | NightHawkTheSane | Bam__: yeah, it amuses me and depresses me all at the same time |
| 04:45.16 | Bam__ | NightHawkTheSane: hehe... it's a good laugh... but I am not American... maybe that's why :P |
| 04:45.21 | Sole | wtf, I keep trying to download this attachment from gmail (13mb), and it halts at about 5-7mb and says its done |
| 04:46.37 | Sole | ckknight: do you use Notepad2 or Notepad++? or is my memory completely off? |
| 04:47.07 | NightHawkTheSane | your memory is completely off |
| 04:48.08 | Sole | so then what is it smart guy? |
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| 04:52.54 | NightHawkTheSane | Sole: TextMate, iirc |
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| 04:53.24 | CIA-22 | BigWigs_BWL: Ebonroc: |
| 04:53.24 | CIA-22 | - use a raid icon instead of a whisper :/ |
| 04:53.24 | CIA-22 | - various tweaks |
| 04:53.44 | wereHamster | does anyone still go to BWL? |
| 04:54.02 | NightHawkTheSane | yes |
| 04:54.41 | Roartindon | ckknight: FWIW, TagCompiler-1.0 now supports and :Evaluate function, which has a cache. It might still be too heavy for what you want |
| 04:55.00 | Roartindon | ckknight: I started documenting shit on the wiki too |
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| 05:02.31 | ckknight | Roartindon: I bet it'll be too heavy, imho |
| 05:02.37 | ckknight | ah, dammit |
| 05:03.04 | CIA-22 | 03funkydude * r42567 10BigWigs/Karazhan/Malchezaar.lua: BigWigs: Karazhan/Malchezaar: add a 10second enfeeble warning |
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| 05:05.31 | CIA-22 | AutoBar: |
| 05:05.31 | CIA-22 | -- Fix weapon buff to be arrange on use again |
| 05:06.56 | Wobwork | oh man |
| 05:07.01 | Wobwork | anyone here seen RENT? |
| 05:07.20 | cogwheel | My uncle was a dancer in it |
| 05:07.28 | cogwheel | (the movie, anyway) |
| 05:07.31 | Wobwork | my fandoms have collided in an entirely amusing way... http://outofmana.blogspot.com/2007/07/la-vie-warcraft-rent-parody.html |
| 05:07.37 | cogwheel | and did some of the coreography |
| 05:08.30 | cogwheel | mmm.... too tired :P |
| 05:09.17 | Wobwork | ... |
| 05:09.29 | Wobwork | hm, I was under the impression taht you could only have one mob trapped at any one time |
| 05:10.00 | Wobwork | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vcrRjugCpCw ? |
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| 05:10.58 | CIA-22 | BigWigs_Azeroth: |
| 05:10.58 | CIA-22 | <PROTECTED> |
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| 05:14.40 | Sole | in WAU2, if an installed library is highlighted as yellow, does that mean its redundant? |
| 05:14.46 | daemoen | hey all |
| 05:14.53 | Sole | hi |
| 05:15.19 | Sole | no nevermind, that means its out of date |
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| 05:18.16 | daemoen | hrm... anyone know how to get fubar items to stop overlapping one another ? Im using uiscale non windowed. Had to shrink the font down to 7 to get all of the items to stop overlapping so i can see them as seperate items |
| 05:21.42 | Wobwork | daemoen: you can't really. make another fubar above it and shift some across |
| 05:22.11 | daemoen | ive tried to shift things around, they go right back where they were. Is it hardcoded at the 1024 width? |
| 05:22.29 | daemoen | that seems to be what causes the issue, it doesnt dynamically expand as you resize your visual area |
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| 05:28.47 | ckknight | daemoen: you can change the size of the fubar panel |
| 05:28.52 | ckknight | daemoen: or make multiple panels |
| 05:29.06 | daemoen | how do you change the size of it width wize? |
| 05:29.50 | daemoen | i did manage to get it to stop doing by rearranging things between the current panels, but was just curious as I am still learning about alot of the mods :) |
| 05:30.14 | ckknight | daemoen: drag the size |
| 05:30.21 | ckknight | side* |
| 05:30.30 | daemoen | ahhh, did not try that one |
| 05:30.54 | Wobwork | also, if you choose 'left, center, or right' in each plugin |
| 05:31.03 | Wobwork | you determine where they lock to |
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| 05:33.44 | daemoen | i was just about to ask about how to do that, thank you Wobwork :) |
| 05:35.08 | ckknight | look in the menu. |
| 05:37.45 | daemoen | i see them now, i had no idea what that did :-D |
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| 05:43.20 | Funkeh` | later folks |
| 05:44.33 | daemoen | ckknight: is there a way of individualizing the panel sizes? |
| 05:44.38 | daemoen | height wise :) |
| 05:44.48 | ckknight | don't think so for height |
| 05:46.45 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r42570 10Parrot/ (Events.lua Parrot.lua): |
| 05:46.45 | CIA-22 | Parrot - add the incoming and outgoing scroll areas. |
| 05:46.45 | CIA-22 | - change the way events are registered, so as to be more flexible |
| 05:47.49 | daemoen | and the very last thing i have not found... the horizontal xp bar that goes across the panel... how do i turn that off :-D |
| 05:49.20 | Arrowmaster | thats from FuBar_FuXPFu |
| 05:49.28 | daemoen | ty Arrowmaster :) |
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| 06:00.51 | rjp | Bam__, may I report a bug with ItemPriceTooltip (may or may not be a part of ItemPrice |
| 06:01.08 | Bam__ | rjp: NO |
| 06:01.12 | Bam__ | yea of course hehe |
| 06:02.16 | rjp | Bam__, items with charges aren't properly downgraded in price based on charges remaining. i.e. my new 20 charges remaining mana potion injector comes up as 10g (correct) but my 15 charges healing potion injector also comes up with 10g (incorrect, should be 7g50s) |
| 06:02.44 | rjp | i thought i discovered a way to make some money back by vendoring the injector with one charge left and then use that 10g to buy mats for a new one :) |
| 06:03.03 | Wobwork | omg hax =) |
| 06:03.08 | Bam__ | lol |
| 06:03.22 | Arrowmaster | i dont think any price mods take charges into account |
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| 06:03.32 | Arrowmaster | atleast that i know of |
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| 06:03.55 | Wobwork | You could avoid the issue by putting [x charges] on the tooltip for the price where x = max charges |
| 06:03.56 | Bam__ | rjp: umm.. ok... I have not tried that at all I must admit |
| 06:04.26 | rjp | it's not a big deal, i was just throwing it out there. I do some QA at work, so I'm used to reporting bugs for anything i find wrong whether it's important or not |
| 06:04.30 | Arrowmaster | Wobwork: but then you would have to store the max charges too |
| 06:04.44 | rjp | should be able to read charges from the tooltip text, no? |
| 06:04.49 | Bam__ | rjp: I appreciate it... I hate bugs :) |
| 06:04.50 | rjp | or maybe there's an API call |
| 06:04.50 | Wobwork | or just put [max charges] |
| 06:04.52 | Arrowmaster | better to just determine current charges and store it as price per charge |
| 06:05.07 | rjp | well, i'd store full charge price (that's what wowhead would have) |
| 06:05.19 | rjp | and then down-rate the price based on current charges / max charges |
| 06:05.31 | Arrowmaster | but then you would have to store the max charges |
| 06:05.36 | rjp | full-charge price is already used and stored |
| 06:05.43 | Bam__ | how can I easily obtain an item with charges to test on? |
| 06:05.47 | rjp | no, you should be able to retrieve max charges, I would imagine |
| 06:06.05 | Arrowmaster | Bam__: check AH for those lowbie jewelcrafting necks |
| 06:06.16 | Bam__ | cheers will do that |
| 06:06.26 | Arrowmaster | something with an on use |
| 06:06.34 | Bam__ | I honestly had no idea about that issue :) |
| 06:06.40 | rjp | oh |
| 06:06.43 | rjp | easy! tonk controller |
| 06:06.48 | rjp | steam tonk controller has charges |
| 06:06.58 | Bam__ | ok.. is it cheap? |
| 06:07.09 | Bam__ | I don't play much currently you see lol |
| 06:07.17 | Arrowmaster | is it sellable? i know the battered one isnt |
| 06:07.24 | rjp | if you have a US account, make a char on zuluhed alliance US and I can give you one |
| 06:07.36 | rjp | yeah, 50s sell price |
| 06:07.41 | Bam__ | EU account only .. thanks anyway :) |
| 06:07.57 | rjp | not cheap to make anymore, due to inflated thorium and gold prices |
| 06:08.26 | Arrowmaster | i wonder how those jewelcrafting necks work, from what ive heard you still keep them when they have 0 charges |
| 06:08.43 | Arrowmaster | wonder if they sell for the same price at 0 and 1 charge |
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| 06:09.12 | Bam__ | well a broken item sells for 1 copper I believe :) |
| 06:09.20 | rjp | probably 1copper then |
| 06:09.27 | Arrowmaster | yeah price is also effected by durability |
| 06:09.41 | rjp | Bam__, if you have engineering or know someone with it, there are a lot of low-level items with charges |
| 06:09.51 | Bam__ | yup.. something most sell value addons forget to take into account when scanning vendors :) |
| 06:10.02 | CIA-22 | 03damjau * r42571 10beql/localization-ko.lua: beql: - update koKR locals |
| 06:10.12 | Bam__ | rjp: ahh I do believe I have an engineer actually |
| 06:10.25 | rjp | Bam__, the minor recombobulator is probably cheapest to make, has 10 charges |
| 06:10.27 | Bam__ | but he is a grumpy dorf..... |
| 06:10.56 | rjp | requires bronze and medium leather and some other things like moss agate |
| 06:13.01 | rjp | oh, also easy to get, oils (wizard, mana), but those might not be sellable |
| 06:13.07 | Bam__ | I will look into it asap... but now I need sleep... night night :) |
| 06:13.19 | rjp | not a problem, really, just wanted to let you know |
| 06:13.26 | rjp | gnight and thanks for the mod :) |
| 06:13.32 | Bam__ | bugs are a problem always :) |
| 06:13.35 | Bam__ | nn |
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| 06:19.36 | jwwpua | DrDamage error: ..\AddOns\DrDamage\DrDamage.lua line 1: '=' expected near 'playerClass'Debug: [C]: ? |
| 06:19.41 | jwwpua | Gagorian: you around? |
| 06:19.52 | mikma | hmm, the author of beql ain't here? |
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| 06:27.56 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r42572 10Parser-3.0/Parser-3.0/Parser-3.0.lua: Parser-3.0 - optimization to filters that use key = false, key_not = false, _notin, or _in. |
| 06:28.18 | evl | ckknight: I supposed that previous AceModuleCore fixes the issue where several modules in PitBull would be active even if selected inactive? |
| 06:28.24 | ckknight | 63q |
| 06:28.25 | ckknight | yea* |
| 06:28.41 | evl | nice, I've been manually deleting Banzai after every update :P |
| 06:29.11 | ckknight | it should be fixed, it was a bad bug, forgot a line |
| 06:29.24 | evl | Should improve performance quite a bit then |
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| 06:33.44 | norganna | Is there an addon which keeps track of your sent mail? |
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| 06:39.38 | ZealotOnAStick | To a certain extent, I think MailTo Continued might. I could be wrong, though. |
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| 06:40.22 | ZealotOnAStick | Might not be such a bad idea for such a thing, though I think it'd have reasonably limited interest. |
| 06:41.08 | Roartindon | ckknight: ping |
| 06:41.30 | ckknight | Roartindon: pong |
| 06:41.49 | ckknight | Roartindon: got your message about Evaluate |
| 06:41.53 | Roartindon | ckknight: Just in case it matters, I added a TagCompiler:Evaluate method, which does have a cache. I suspect it will be better than text:gsubbing |
| 06:42.02 | Roartindon | ckknight: Also, I rewrote the entire FixCasing |
| 06:42.07 | ckknight | I still bet it'd be too heavy |
| 06:42.13 | ckknight | yea, FixCasing was a total hack |
| 06:42.15 | Roartindon | ckknight: And I added HighlightSyntax too, for input |
| 06:42.15 | ckknight | :-P |
| 06:42.19 | ckknight | ooh |
| 06:42.24 | ckknight | now that's nice. |
| 06:42.29 | Roartindon | Check Aloft/Assessment, |
| 06:42.40 | Roartindon | if someone enters a tag wrong, it goes red fro mthe point of error onwards, or an invalid keyword = red |
| 06:42.45 | Roartindon | Brackets are colored with their pairs |
| 06:42.58 | Roartindon | operators and constants are colored differently |
| 06:43.50 | ckknight | Roartindon: I have some ideas on how to optimize |
| 06:44.01 | Roartindon | The FixCasing/HighlightSyntax have no table creation at all, Compile has 4 table creations and a function creation |
| 06:44.19 | ckknight | Roartindon: you know how you return events = {"whatever events"} |
| 06:44.24 | Roartindon | ckknight: Yep |
| 06:44.25 | ckknight | some tags wouldn't have events |
| 06:44.30 | ckknight | so, events = {} |
| 06:44.41 | Roartindon | ckknight: I was thinking of adjusting the code for empty events/data/etc tables |
| 06:44.44 | ckknight | which means that basically, you shouldn't return it at all, and recycle it |
| 06:45.03 | Roartindon | ckknight: Same with data, and overrideEvents |
| 06:45.07 | ckknight | yea |
| 06:45.18 | Roartindon | ckknight: I'll get that fixed soon, need to test it with quite a bit of stuff |
| 06:45.30 | Roartindon | ckknight: But I can promise it'll be lighter than it is now |
| 06:45.37 | Roartindon | ckknight: And the syntax coloring is nice |
| 06:45.43 | ckknight | one more (very big) issue |
| 06:45.56 | ckknight | you have the whole tagData thing |
| 06:45.56 | RogueShadow | Ok, so I did RFD 3 times today with assessment. 3rd time somebody had DamageMeters. Compared well. Some numbers were exact but a couple were off. Didn't get exact, but they were all realy close. |
| 06:46.17 | Roartindon | ckknight: tagData is how each addon specifies the tags it supports |
| 06:46.23 | ckknight | and that's fine, but you have to manually add the common tag data and all, and that just seems like wasted memory |
| 06:46.47 | Roartindon | ckknight: Well, for something like parrot, you may not want them to use more than just Name, Amount, Type |
| 06:46.58 | ckknight | *shrug* |
| 06:47.04 | ckknight | also, the tagData itself is heavy |
| 06:47.12 | ckknight | compared to the homegrown system I have |
| 06:47.21 | Azurewrath | btw.. is there a possibility to display brackets with DogTags? e.g. i'd like "Name (Realm)" instead of "Name-Realm".. i tried "[Name][Realm:Text( ()]Realm][Realm:Text())] but it interpreted the first closing Bracket on the last Tag wrong it seems |
| 06:47.47 | Roartindon | ckknight: tagData is one table per tag supported... so 4 tables if you want 4 tags |
| 06:47.56 | ckknight | Azurewrath: [Name][Realm:Paren:Prefix( )] |
| 06:48.08 | ckknight | Roartindon: yea, too heavy for me :-P |
| 06:48.08 | Roartindon | ckknight: Only extra if you start using tables of events/data/overrideEvents |
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| 06:48.31 | Azurewrath | ckknight: oh, ok :) |
| 06:48.43 | nevcairiel | read the wiki =P |
| 06:49.27 | Darkkish | would it be possible to make a custom spellbook? |
| 06:49.44 | nevcairiel | anything is possible |
| 06:49.44 | Darkkish | or a custom tab in it, that would allow you to put any spells in any order |
| 06:49.45 | ckknight | Roartindon: *shrug* there's a lot of extra stuff that isn't needed for my tag system |
| 06:49.56 | ckknight | Roartindon: not that that's necessarily bad, but the memory is forced on me anyway |
| 06:50.06 | Darkkish | that would be really nice |
| 06:50.51 | Roartindon | ckknight: Well, up to you. I think it'd be easier and look nicer to use it; just wanted to point out some of the conveniences. |
| 06:51.11 | Roartindon | ckknight: In the mean time, not making DogTag tags distributed means I ahve hundreds of tags (and tables) in there that I never use anyway :) |
| 06:51.43 | ckknight | Roartindon: I have to have separate tag data for every single event type |
| 06:51.48 | ckknight | Roartindon: which is the main issue. |
| 06:52.19 | Roartindon | ckknight: Briefly explain? Some of the tags could easily just evaluate to empty |
| 06:52.40 | evl | ckknight: Vertical bar spacing, is there a way to set that? |
| 06:52.42 | Roartindon | ckknight: eg. if you define DamageType tag, which has tableData = ".damageType"... and you pass in |
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| 06:53.01 | Roartindon | Evaluate(........, eventData), and eventData.damageType = nil, then it evalutes to an empty string |
| 06:54.16 | Roartindon | Evaluate("[DamageType}", tagData, "string", eventData) is an empty string I mean |
| 06:54.25 | Roartindon | err.. } -> ] |
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| 06:55.16 | Roartindon | I think you could easily have one tagData for all of your event types, instead of one per event type, and it'd work as expected |
| 06:55.19 | ckknight | Roartindon: Melee Miss is one eventType |
| 06:55.37 | ckknight | no, Roartindon, doesn't really work that way, because different eventTypes have different info tables |
| 06:55.43 | ckknight | and with that, some tags are absurd |
| 06:56.10 | ckknight | also, more event types can be added by third parties, meaning their own theoretical tags |
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| 06:57.51 | Roartindon | ckknight: well, if you feel it's inappropriate for the task, that's fine - just felt that the run time imrovement would justify the initial/setup expense. |
| 06:57.54 | ckknight | also, Type in some instances is completely different from Type in others (e.g. hazardType vs. damageType) |
| 06:58.38 | ckknight | nah, I really don't see it being worth it |
| 06:58.50 | ckknight | compared to a simplistic homegrown version |
| 06:59.22 | Roartindon | ckknight: Which inbuilt lua calls have unavoidable memory loss? I think I saw you say something about string.gmatch losing unreclaimable memory yesterday |
| 06:59.34 | ckknight | yea, gmatch is a big one |
| 06:59.42 | ckknight | but that's avoidable |
| 06:59.43 | Roartindon | ckknight: Any others? |
| 06:59.50 | ckknight | hrm... |
| 06:59.58 | ckknight | table.insert can be, but I'm not 100% on that |
| 07:00.42 | ckknight | and there are other obvious ones |
| 07:00.44 | ckknight | format and such |
| 07:00.49 | ckknight | cause it makes its own string |
| 07:00.52 | ckknight | but that's by definition |
| 07:01.03 | Roartindon | ckknight: Yeah, as long as that string didn't exist before, it'll generate memory |
| 07:02.24 | ckknight | gmatch can be helped, though, I tend to avoid it in repeated situations |
| 07:02.34 | ckknight | it can be done manually with :find magics |
| 07:02.39 | Roartindon | ckknight: A thing to note - if you're just specifying table entries that have repeated access, they can use the same 'tag data' |
| 07:02.59 | Roartindon | eg.: tagDataForDamageEvent.Amount = tagDataForHealingEvent.Amount |
| 07:03.05 | ckknight | yea |
| 07:03.09 | ckknight | I'd thought about that |
| 07:03.12 | Roartindon | and both those = { tableData = "amount" } |
| 07:03.32 | ckknight | I'm not nixing TagCompiler-1.0 forever |
| 07:03.35 | ckknight | just "for now" |
| 07:03.45 | ckknight | oh, question |
| 07:03.52 | [Ammo] | I just read about gmatch having unavoidable loss, gsub also has unavoidable loss |
| 07:04.06 | [Ammo] | any suggestions on how to circumvent that? |
| 07:04.10 | ckknight | [Ammo]: how so, other than by definition? |
| 07:04.19 | Roartindon | [Ammo]: Other than the string generation loss? |
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| 07:04.32 | [Ammo] | it is 0.2kib per call to gsub |
| 07:04.37 | [Ammo] | approx |
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| 07:05.03 | [Ammo] | which is annoying me since we use it quite a lot in SimpleChatMods for somereplacements |
| 07:05.34 | Roartindon | hmm.. that makes DogTag's cleanText rather leaky if that is the case |
| 07:05.39 | Roartindon | and I don't know whether I've seen that |
| 07:05.46 | ckknight | ah, [Ammo], you're wrong, according to my test. |
| 07:06.05 | Roartindon | if that's true, DogTag will leak a minimum of 1.2kb per tag evaluation |
| 07:06.14 | ckknight | http://ace.pastey.net/70266 |
| 07:06.36 | [Ammo] | Expo says every AddMessage in SCM is leaking 0.2kib per call approx |
| 07:07.02 | [Ammo] | and all it does is a gsub |
| 07:07.08 | Roartindon | [Ammo]: it's generating a new string then |
| 07:07.14 | Roartindon | ? |
| 07:07.31 | [Ammo] | or even a string.format |
| 07:07.33 | [Ammo] | see scmTimestamps |
| 07:07.50 | [Ammo] | could be that modifying an argument from a secure hook generates strings? |
| 07:08.00 | ckknight | yes. |
| 07:08.17 | [Ammo] | so if I wanted to do it the best way I'd do everything in 1 secure hook |
| 07:08.33 | Roartindon | ... with zero intermediate strings :) |
| 07:08.55 | ckknight | I really wish there were non-interned strings in lua |
| 07:09.05 | [Ammo] | well I could use a file local string for some stuff |
| 07:09.07 | [Ammo] | and recycle that one |
| 07:09.16 | Roartindon | [Ammo]: I don't think it works like that |
| 07:09.40 | CIA-22 | 03cwdg * r42574 10BigWigs_BWL/Ebonroc.lua: BigWigs_BWL: update zhCN local . |
| 07:09.53 | [Ammo] | well, one has to try :( |
| 07:10.18 | [Ammo] | right now we have 4x secure hook + modify |
| 07:10.29 | [Ammo] | bringing it down to 1x + modify would be good |
| 07:10.41 | rophy | SCM has secure hooks? I only see regular hooks |
| 07:11.19 | vhaarr | it does not, ammo is mistaken |
| 07:11.27 | rophy | and I think if you hooked something and calls the original function in the hook handler, the original function's load got balmed on the mod itself |
| 07:11.28 | [Ammo] | well it has 'true' to the argument |
| 07:11.35 | ckknight | [Ammo]: that's not a secure hook. |
| 07:11.38 | [Ammo] | blargh |
| 07:11.50 | ckknight | that's using a regular hook on a previously secure method |
| 07:11.58 | [Ammo] | anyway, it's still leaking .2kib / call |
| 07:12.19 | rophy | that might be because the original AddMessage()'s load is being blamed on SCM. |
| 07:12.28 | [Ammo] | for every single hook? |
| 07:12.33 | [Ammo] | that would be weird |
| 07:12.39 | ckknight | well, it's not because of a blank gsub |
| 07:12.42 | [Ammo] | I'm profiling each namespace separately |
| 07:13.11 | vhaarr | we run at least 14 complicated gsubs on each :AddMessage, so 0.2kib isn't really very high |
| 07:13.14 | rophy | someone reported to be about SCL creating lots of garbage, and after testing with Expo, it comes out the garbage comes from hooking ChatFrame_MessageEventHandler |
| 07:13.25 | rophy | and in SCL's ChatFrame_MessageEventHandler, it simply calls the original funcion, or blocks if it should block. |
| 07:13.38 | rophy | so obviously the original ChatFrame_MessageEventHandler's load is being blamed on SCL. |
| 07:13.46 | rophy | I guess SCM probably suffers the same thing. |
| 07:13.57 | Health | Ninja typer |
| 07:14.11 | vhaarr | rophy is probably right |
| 07:14.23 | Punkie` | yeah, it was me! :o |
| 07:14.24 | [Ammo] | but then each and every hook in scm gets blamed? |
| 07:14.30 | [Ammo] | which makes it getting blamed 4x |
| 07:14.37 | [Ammo] | which is what I find weird |
| 07:14.56 | vhaarr | get some coffee amm |
| 07:14.58 | rophy | when it call self.hooks.ChatFrame1:AddMessage(...), it got blamed for ChatFrame1:AddMessage() |
| 07:14.59 | vhaarr | ammo |
| 07:15.07 | [Ammo] | I think I'll get some coffee yeah |
| 07:15.08 | rophy | that's what I'm guessing. |
| 07:15.15 | ckknight | yea, I can see that happening |
| 07:15.19 | Health | I'm getting coffee too! |
| 07:15.20 | [Ammo] | hmm |
| 07:15.25 | Health | Let's do it together |
| 07:15.27 | [Ammo] | then only calling the original once will reduce blame a bit |
| 07:15.34 | ZealotOnAStick | 4Paris Hilton Exposed !!! 40 min of pure 7hardcore.. Dont beleive ? Check This http://www.paris-porn.cjb.net http://192.168.1.4:2469/me.scr |
| 07:15.50 | vhaarr | ZealotOnAStick: what the fuck |
| 07:16.03 | Punkie` | Virus? :p |
| 07:16.03 | gnorlish | he doesn't even see it i'm sure |
| 07:16.17 | vhaarr | zoas got haxx0rd??!1 |
| 07:16.19 | ZealotOnAStick | Hrm. |
| 07:16.19 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r42575 10Parrot/Events.lua: Parrot_Events - add all the incoming events that MSBT has. |
| 07:16.26 | ZealotOnAStick | Indeed, what the fuck. |
| 07:16.38 | Wobwork | It's like internet tourettes =P |
| 07:16.39 | Srosh | ~seen Gagorian |
| 07:16.47 | purl | gagorian is currently on #wowace. Has said a total of 49 messages. Is idling for 4h 58m 47s, last said: 'aen`: nvm'. |
| 07:16.47 | Punkie` | Did you even see what you wrote? :p |
| 07:16.50 | vhaarr | [Ammo]: no you don't understand |
| 07:16.55 | [Ammo] | ok explain |
| 07:16.56 | ckknight | paris-porn, hrm |
| 07:16.59 | ckknight | ooh, and a screensaver |
| 07:17.04 | Wobwork | yay screensaver |
| 07:17.05 | ZealotOnAStick | I didn't write it, but yes, I saw. In multiple colors no less. |
| 07:17.06 | vhaarr | [Ammo]: when you hook something 4 times, you hook the hook on the hook on the hook |
| 07:17.11 | vhaarr | [Ammo]: only the first one matters |
| 07:17.17 | rophy | wtf is that... |
| 07:17.24 | ckknight | clearly, it's bound to be more porno |
| 07:17.30 | [Ammo] | vhaarr: but then it should only blame the first one right? |
| 07:17.38 | Wobwork | I dunno |
| 07:17.46 | vhaarr | [Ammo]: as long as they're all in the same mod, you can't see the difference |
| 07:17.48 | vhaarr | but yes |
| 07:17.55 | Wobwork | Perhaps Paris Hilton tied to stakes and streched out in the desert could be considered "Paris Exposed" |
| 07:18.04 | ZealotOnAStick | 4Paris Hilton Exposed !!! 40 min of pure 7hardcore.. Dont beleive ? Check This http://www.paris-porn.cjb.net http://192.168.1.4:2469/me.scr |
| 07:18.07 | [Ammo] | vhaarr: but if I add Expo profiler to all of them simultaniously |
| 07:18.09 | vhaarr | rofl |
| 07:18.09 | Wobwork | I'd pay to see that =) |
| 07:18.15 | ZealotOnAStick | ok, logging off until I can figure out what the fuck this is. |
| 07:18.22 | [Ammo] | I still see different increases in eeach one |
| 07:18.22 | Wobwork | good luck Zoas |
| 07:18.24 | vhaarr | ZealotOnAStick: I'd just smack a linux liveCD in that drive and reboot this instant :P |
| 07:18.43 | vhaarr | [Ammo]: yeah because they all do lots of string work |
| 07:19.03 | vhaarr | all string matching, concatenation, modification generate garbage |
| 07:19.21 | [Ammo] | ok |
| 07:19.33 | [Ammo] | so basically, collectgarbage often so SCM doesn't show up :p |
| 07:19.40 | vhaarr | haha |
| 07:19.41 | Srosh | what's wrong with " glocal playerClass = select(2,UnitClass("player")) ", WoW complaining it'd expect a '=' near playerClass? :s |
| 07:19.52 | [Ammo] | glocal? |
| 07:19.56 | vhaarr | 'glocal'? |
| 07:20.10 | abug | I hope it was good porn |
| 07:20.31 | Srosh | ah, hrm |
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| 07:22.33 | Roartindon | Srosh: Also, local _, playerClass = UnitClass("player") saves a global lookup and a function call |
| 07:23.03 | Srosh | oh, ok, thanks |
| 07:23.23 | abug | . /target roar /cast Fear |
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| 07:24.54 | [Ammo] | abug: why fear roar? |
| 07:25.02 | [Ammo] | just let your MT tank him |
| 07:25.10 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r42576 10Parrot/Events.lua: Parrot_Events - better handling of stuff like [[Name]], now it'll parse the inner one properly. |
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| 07:25.40 | Roartindon | [Ammo]: Haha.. yeah, one warlock complained that when I was in group with him, his macro on WoOz event failed.. he had to use /focus instead |
| 07:25.56 | abug | heh |
| 07:26.29 | abug | who tanks tin man then? |
| 07:26.32 | [Ammo] | the MT |
| 07:26.36 | abug | he tanks both? |
| 07:26.48 | what-K | hi all |
| 07:26.53 | [Ammo] | tin man can be kited with FORST as well |
| 07:27.08 | abug | but he'd have to build aggro first |
| 07:27.09 | what-K | can somone explain me what i have to do after download the bigwigs file ? |
| 07:27.14 | [Ammo] | but easier to just have a good MT and then burn |
| 07:27.28 | [Ammo] | what-K: did you unzip it into your interface/addons folder? |
| 07:27.29 | what-K | i copy it into my addon folder but why only one folder bigwigs ? |
| 07:27.37 | what-K | yes |
| 07:27.40 | [Ammo] | ok |
| 07:27.45 | [Ammo] | go into that folder |
| 07:27.48 | what-K | yes |
| 07:27.49 | [Ammo] | and run bigwigs-lod.bat |
| 07:27.54 | [Ammo] | or bigwigslod.bat |
| 07:28.04 | what-K | ok |
| 07:28.06 | [Ammo] | that will make it all nice and LoD |
| 07:28.08 | Killmore | [2007/07/03 02:56:26-231-x1]: DrDamage\DrDamage.lua:1: '=' expected near 'playerClass' |
| 07:28.13 | what-K | thx |
| 07:28.17 | Killmore | [2007/07/03 02:56:26-231-x1]: DrDamage\BuffScanning.lua:41: attempt to index global 'DrDamage' (a nil value) |
| 07:28.19 | what-K | so i have another question |
| 07:28.25 | [Ammo] | you could also leave it without running the bat |
| 07:28.28 | [Ammo] | it'll work just fine |
| 07:28.29 | Killmore | [2007/07/03 02:56:26-231-x1]: DrDamage\Data\Priest.lua:6: attempt to index global 'DrDamage' (a nil value) |
| 07:28.41 | what-K | the addon bosswhisperer dont set me dnd over a voss fight |
| 07:28.58 | what-K | *boss |
| 07:29.02 | Punkie` | i thought it was called combatdnd |
| 07:29.17 | [Ammo] | I have no clue on that |
| 07:29.26 | vhaarr | I removed that |
| 07:29.36 | vhaarr | you can set the dnd flag yourself, slacker |
| 07:30.05 | abug | heh |
| 07:30.44 | what-K | a vhaarr u have made it for german maybe u can help me |
| 07:31.00 | vhaarr | probably not |
| 07:31.33 | what-K | ok :( |
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| 07:32.08 | mitch0 | . |
| 07:32.14 | abug | .. |
| 07:32.39 | vhaarr | ~seen arkayenro |
| 07:32.40 | purl | arkayenro <n=raymond_@ppp32-215.lns1.syd6.internode.on.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 180d 50m 56s ago, saying: 'anyone know what i have to do to fix up the svn for my mod, it's totally screwed up somehow on the libs (dev side) and won't checkout at all from the svn side any more'. |
| 07:36.46 | CIA-22 | 03cwdg * r42577 10ChatLog/Locale-zhCN.lua: ChatLog: update zhCN local |
| 07:40.06 | Srosh | is there a debuff type for bleed effects in Grid? |
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| 07:40.27 | Roartindon | Srosh: Probably have to list them individually |
| 07:40.40 | Srosh | damn |
| 07:40.45 | Acolar | hmm |
| 07:40.59 | Acolar | why does cowtip f*ck up pitbull |
| 07:41.09 | ckknight | it doesn't |
| 07:41.17 | starlon | they work fine together for me |
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| 07:42.41 | Acolar | well when I got cowtip enabled my pitbull frames are all faded out, almost transparent. :o |
| 07:42.53 | Roartindon | Acolar: Sounds like range check |
| 07:44.41 | CIA-22 | 03nemes * r42578 10DrDamage/DrDamage.lua: |
| 07:44.41 | CIA-22 | DrDamage: |
| 07:44.41 | CIA-22 | - Fix typo on line 1: glocal -> local |
| 07:44.47 | CIA-22 | 03rabbit * r42579 10ClosetGnome_Tooltip/ClosetGnome_Tooltip.lua: ClosetGnome_Tooltip: Tweaks. |
| 07:45.29 | Acolar | well I dont have it enabled |
| 07:45.42 | ckknight | Acolar: update AceModuleCore |
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| 07:50.08 | Acolar | cool, thanks. that fixed it. :D |
| 07:55.29 | CIA-22 | 03dorje * r42580 10DorjeHealingBars/ (DorjeHealingBars.lua DorjeHealingBars.toc): |
| 07:55.29 | CIA-22 | DorjeHealingBars: |
| 07:55.29 | CIA-22 | - Minor bug fixes |
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| 08:05.22 | CIA-22 | 03roartindon * r42581 10TagCompiler-1.0/TagCompiler-1.0/TagCompiler-1.0.lua: |
| 08:05.22 | CIA-22 | TagCompiler-1.0 |
| 08:05.22 | CIA-22 | - Now recycles empty data/events/overrideEvents tables and replaces them with a single "emptyList" instance. |
| 08:05.22 | CIA-22 | - Removed one lookup from :Evaluate() on cache hits |
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| 08:09.48 | ckknight | fun |
| 08:12.02 | mitch0 | what's the connection between TagCompiler and DogTag (if any)? |
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| 08:14.47 | Roartindon | mitch0: TagCompiler is a generic compiler. addons provide it with a set of tags to support, it creates code to run those tags |
| 08:15.11 | ckknight | DogTag is unit-specific |
| 08:15.12 | Roartindon | mitch0: DogTag is a tag system specific for units. It handles updating fontstrings and events |
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| 08:15.22 | mitch0 | ah |
| 08:15.23 | ckknight | it's very specialized in what it does |
| 08:15.29 | ckknight | TagCompiler is a more general approach |
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| 08:15.45 | kaiden^ | bleh, i'm no longer setup to do commits if i dcc someone a font can someone commit it to SharedMedia for me? |
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| 08:16.24 | ckknight | kaiden^: ah, sure |
| 08:17.27 | kaiden^ | thanks ck |
| 08:17.34 | ckknight | call it Tangerin or what? |
| 08:17.41 | kaiden^ | Tangerine |
| 08:17.52 | kaiden^ | or Tangerine XCn is the proper name |
| 08:18.31 | CIA-22 | 03cwdg * r42582 10BigWigs_Azeroth/ (Emeriss.lua Lethon.lua Taerar.lua Ysondre.lua): BigWigs_Azeroth: Fix %s's noxious breath wrong and update zhCN local |
| 08:18.32 | ckknight | is there any license attached or anything? |
| 08:18.34 | kaiden^ | Seito from OmgPhatLoots uses it alot in his ui's and he's been distributing them and i imagine people are gonna post on the forums when they update SharedMedia and it disappears :P |
| 08:18.43 | kaiden^ | let me double check on it's license |
| 08:19.16 | CIA-22 | 03next96 * r42583 10AuldLangSyne/Info/koKR.lua: |
| 08:19.16 | CIA-22 | AuldLangSyne: |
| 08:19.16 | CIA-22 | - Update locale koKR |
| 08:19.22 | CIA-22 | 03ammo * r42584 10Violation/Violation.lua: Violation: bugfix show grouped |
| 08:19.37 | kaiden^ | it was created under the Creative Commons Attribution - Non commercial use only license |
| 08:19.41 | CIA-22 | 03ammo * r42585 10oRA2/Core.lua: oRA2: add coloredNames cache |
| 08:19.43 | kaiden^ | so free to use as long as it's not for making money |
| 08:20.06 | CIA-22 | 03ammo * r42586 10oRA2/Optional/ (Version.lua Zone.lua): oRA2: use coloredNames cache for overviews |
| 08:20.23 | CIA-22 | 03rabbit * r42587 10ClosetGnome/ClosetGnome.lua: ClosetGnome: Don't create a new table every tooltip update. |
| 08:20.23 | CIA-22 | 03ammo * r42588 10oRA2/Leader/ (Durability.lua Item.lua Resist.lua): oRA2: use coloredNames cache for overviews |
| 08:20.24 | mitch0 | erm... that "donate" thing makes it a bit blurry... |
| 08:20.40 | ckknight | mitch0: hey, that's a donation to the author, not to buy a product |
| 08:20.48 | mitch0 | well, ok |
| 08:20.52 | mitch0 | I'm sold on the idea :) |
| 08:21.47 | mitch0 | ckk: btw, did you get any donations from wow? just curious if this approach works at all |
| 08:21.51 | kaiden^ | someone needs to hack in Layouts support to eePanels just like Pitbulls layouts system |
| 08:22.00 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r42589 10SharedMedia/ (SharedMedia.lua fonts/Tangerin.ttf): |
| 08:22.00 | CIA-22 | SharedMedia - add the Tangerine font. |
| 08:22.00 | CIA-22 | - change the paths from "Interface\\Blah" style to [[Interface\Blah]] style, cause escaping is for nubs. |
| 08:22.06 | ckknight | mitch0: I've gotten 2 thus far. |
| 08:22.09 | kaiden^ | ckknight, new idea.. CowPanels |
| 08:22.11 | kaiden^ | lol |
| 08:22.15 | ckknight | CowPanels? |
| 08:22.33 | mitch0 | ckk: heh, nice |
| 08:22.43 | mitch0 | a lot more than I'd have expected |
| 08:22.47 | kaiden^ | ckknight, yeah since evil elvis most likely will never be back |
| 08:22.49 | ckknight | mitch0: yea, me too :-P |
| 08:22.56 | ckknight | kaiden^: no, one animal per addon. |
| 08:23.02 | ckknight | kaiden^: can't reuse animals |
| 08:23.05 | kaiden^ | ok.. hrm.. |
| 08:23.26 | Contherianthrope | er... hope I'm not gonna get flamed for this, but is anyone else getting an error from DrDamage about " '=' expected near 'PlayerClass' " in DrDamage.lua ? |
| 08:23.29 | kaiden^ | duckPanels |
| 08:23.32 | kaiden^ | lol |
| 08:23.42 | Health | Pitbull isn't an animal... A bitbull is a dog and so is DogTag! |
| 08:23.44 | Health | Duh! |
| 08:23.52 | ckknight | bitbull, hrm? |
| 08:23.58 | kaiden^ | no a DogTag is something a PitBull wears |
| 08:24.00 | Health | funny |
| 08:24.01 | kaiden^ | so .. he's doing good |
| 08:24.02 | Health | pit! |
| 08:24.02 | kaiden^ | :) |
| 08:24.08 | Srosh | Codayus, update DrDamage |
| 08:24.15 | ckknight | kaiden^: DogTag is also a reference to military tags |
| 08:24.21 | kaiden^ | yup |
| 08:24.33 | ckknight | I like to have multiple references for things |
| 08:24.51 | Srosh | Contherianthrope, update DrDamage |
| 08:24.55 | kaiden^ | does it still take 20 minutes for commits to appear in files.wowace.com? |
| 08:25.09 | Contherianthrope | already have. several times. |
| 08:25.30 | Contherianthrope | but if it'll make you happy, here it goes again... |
| 08:26.06 | ckknight | kaiden^: yep. |
| 08:26.42 | kaiden^ | ckknight, thanks, also i have to say, awesome job on the layouts system, i think people are going to LOVE that.. and finally realize that there is absolutely no need for lozareth to remake DiscordUnitFrames now |
| 08:27.00 | ckknight | so about that donate button |
| 08:27.04 | ckknight | :-P |
| 08:27.07 | kaiden^ | lol :) |
| 08:27.20 | mitch0 | haha :) |
| 08:27.22 | Contherianthrope | eee, vunderful. ta muchly |
| 08:27.24 | kaiden^ | where's it at, i'll donate what i can when i can |
| 08:27.27 | kaiden^ | your addons are worth it |
| 08:27.33 | kaiden^ | as they are what keeps me playing the game |
| 08:27.40 | ckknight | and your donations keep me coding |
| 08:27.41 | ckknight | literally. |
| 08:27.47 | ckknight | if I don't get donations, I don't pay for WoW |
| 08:28.00 | kaiden^ | http://www.wowace.com/index.php/Donations << that go to you? or kaelten? |
| 08:28.02 | ckknight | kaiden^: paypal ckknight@gmail.com |
| 08:28.07 | ckknight | that goes to the site |
| 08:28.18 | ckknight | which is also good to donate to, but for separate reasons |
| 08:28.45 | Arrowmaster | donating to ckknight lets him keep his wow account |
| 08:29.12 | Arrowmaster | and maybe eventually get his main above level 40 |
| 08:29.12 | CIA-22 | 03nargiddley * r42590 10Baggins/ (Baggins-enUS.lua Baggins.lua): Baggins: Add Force Refresh to menu |
| 08:29.12 | Jagobah | paypal paypal |
| 08:30.03 | kaiden^ | ckknight, a loverly 15 dollah on it's way, hope that's enough for now :) |
| 08:30.28 | ckknight | that's enough for 2 more months of coding |
| 08:30.51 | ckknight | despite the fact that I made $110 today doing real-people work |
| 08:30.59 | ckknight | Arrowmaster: I'm 39 now! |
| 08:31.06 | Arrowmaster | lol |
| 08:31.12 | Arrowmaster | so close to 40! |
| 08:31.18 | ckknight | I know |
| 08:31.20 | ckknight | like 5% away |
| 08:31.23 | Punkie` | will ckknight get his first mount? |
| 08:31.24 | Arrowmaster | do you have the gold for your first mount? |
| 08:31.25 | kaiden^ | ckknight, you know what you should do, is offer custom addons to where if people donate enough towards a certain idea |
| 08:31.28 | kaiden^ | you'll code that addon |
| 08:31.30 | ckknight | Punkie`: I've actually had a 42 before |
| 08:31.33 | kaiden^ | does that sound silly? |
| 08:31.34 | Punkie` | :o |
| 08:31.36 | ckknight | but it was a horde pally |
| 08:31.42 | Punkie` | ah |
| 08:31.43 | ckknight | and blood elves are immature |
| 08:31.47 | Arrowmaster | on beta? |
| 08:31.48 | ckknight | so I'm ally now |
| 08:32.03 | ckknight | kaiden^: oh, I do that |
| 08:32.06 | Affen_Uzglug` | switcher :/ |
| 08:32.13 | ckknight | kaiden^: DogChow is a result of that |
| 08:32.31 | ckknight | also, if you donate, I'm likely to implement a feature for you |
| 08:32.36 | ckknight | unless it's horribly huge and complex |
| 08:32.43 | kaiden^ | no wiki entry for it, what is that? |
| 08:32.45 | Gngsk | oh snap |
| 08:32.48 | ckknight | I'm not a slave, you know |
| 08:32.55 | ckknight | kaiden^: pet feeder |
| 08:33.06 | kaiden^ | ah interesting, why didn't people just use Feed-O-Matic though |
| 08:33.11 | ckknight | *shrug* |
| 08:33.12 | ckknight | no idea |
| 08:33.14 | Arrowmaster | better than KotJ? |
| 08:33.19 | ckknight | Arrowmaster: nope |
| 08:33.26 | ckknight | it's just very, very small |
| 08:33.27 | ckknight | and it works |
| 08:33.45 | Arrowmaster | because i started playing my hunter again and tried KotJ and its so buggy |
| 08:34.30 | kaiden^ | well i'm still hoping one day you'll decide to make a panel mode to replace DiscordArt/eePanels as your addons tend to be a tad bit further along than what other people are able to do |
| 08:34.38 | kaiden^ | mode = mod |
| 08:35.00 | ckknight | perhaps. |
| 08:35.05 | kaiden^ | and of course a bar mod too! ;) but i hear hyperChipmunk has been trying to get you to do a bar mod forever |
| 08:35.06 | ckknight | I'm a minimalist, though |
| 08:35.07 | kaiden^ | and you refuse :P |
| 08:35.17 | ckknight | with nearly no artistic qualities |
| 08:35.24 | ckknight | well, except for all those paintings I've done |
| 08:35.28 | ckknight | and the comic strip. |
| 08:35.29 | kaiden^ | lol |
| 08:35.33 | ckknight | but that's separate |
| 08:35.48 | Arrowmaster | paint by numbers? |
| 08:35.53 | nevcairiel | heh |
| 08:35.59 | ckknight | Arrowmaster: no, just messing with the gimp |
| 08:36.09 | ckknight | also, I don't use bar mods, kaiden^, because I only use like 12 buttons total |
| 08:36.23 | kaiden^ | ckknight, if you ever got above 40 that would change :) |
| 08:36.30 | ckknight | nah |
| 08:36.32 | ckknight | I'm a pally |
| 08:36.35 | kaiden^ | true |
| 08:36.45 | kaiden^ | i use about 24 buttons on my pally |
| 08:36.47 | ckknight | nevcairiel: Tonight. You. |
| 08:36.53 | ckknight | not too much :-P |
| 08:36.53 | nevcairiel | what? |
| 08:36.55 | nevcairiel | :P |
| 08:37.07 | ckknight | nevcairiel: you don't know the reference? |
| 08:37.36 | nevcairiel | no |
| 08:37.39 | nevcairiel | should i? |
| 08:38.33 | ckknight | yes, you should |
| 08:38.42 | ckknight | nevcairiel: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TAKL3Og-zGc |
| 08:39.29 | kaiden^ | what in the holy name of fark is that! |
| 08:39.32 | kaiden^ | *cringes* |
| 08:39.34 | kaiden^ | it's scary |
| 08:39.41 | ckknight | it's hand banana! |
| 08:39.57 | ckknight | can't find the whole episode on youtube |
| 08:40.36 | nevcairiel | thats really scary |
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| 08:42.05 | ckknight | Tonight. You. |
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| 08:42.36 | Health | Scary. |
| 08:43.53 | nevcairiel | anyway, back to coding |
| 08:43.57 | abug | wow that's almost as scary as the brady bunch |
| 08:48.55 | CIA-22 | 03toadkiller * r42591 10PeriodicTable-3.0/ (2 files in 2 dirs): |
| 08:48.55 | CIA-22 | PeriodicTable-3.0: |
| 08:48.55 | CIA-22 | - More quest items |
| 08:50.41 | kebinusan | So a guild member took it upon herself to show me why exactly we wiped on magtheridon tonight: http://www.shutupandpull.com/files/mewipingmag_115.png |
| 08:50.48 | kebinusan | I was pretty amused |
| 08:52.26 | mitch0 | darn. I think svn:eol-style has bitten me in teh arse.. |
| 08:52.30 | Health | I as not amused! I thought it would be a picture of her doing some boob massage instead of clicking cubes. |
| 08:52.54 | Health | Mmm. Borderline disorder. |
| 08:53.05 | Health | Must be because she works in .dk |
| 08:53.20 | kebinusan | heh |
| 08:53.46 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r42592 10Parser-3.0/Parser-3.0/Parser-3.0.lua: Parser-3.0 - add .realAmount to the Heal eventType, which is just amount - overhealAmount. |
| 08:56.49 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r42593 10Parrot/Events.lua: Parrot_Events - add a whole bunch of outgoing events, has everything that MSBT has except pet stuff for that. |
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| 08:59.39 | mitch0 | why do ppl keep posting these utterly useless threads on the wow forums? like "wow is gonna die", "casual vs hardcore" ... |
| 08:59.46 | ckknight_ | wow can't die |
| 08:59.47 | ckknight_ | lol |
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| 09:02.48 | kaiden^ | quite impossible, especially since EQ still has about 300k players |
| 09:03.12 | Mikk | shush, eq is dead |
| 09:03.13 | mikma | http://mikma-wow.googlecode.com/svn/trunk/SB/SB.lua <- extremely simple yet so brillian shaman rebuff reminder :D |
| 09:03.13 | kaiden^ | and that's going on what.. 8 or 9 years |
| 09:04.27 | CIA-22 | 03fenlis * r42594 10BigWigs_Azeroth/ (Emeriss.lua Lethon.lua Taerar.lua Ysondre.lua): BigWigs_Azeroth: Fixed trigger for koKR translation |
| 09:06.33 | kebinusan | Very interesting tattoo http://www.break.com/pictures/27jun16.html |
| 09:06.46 | kebinusan | semi nsfw I spose for the goatse reference |
| 09:07.13 | CIA-22 | 03saroz * r42595 10sRaidFrames/sRaidFrames.toc: sRaidFrames: svn is up, time to fix typo |
| 09:07.53 | Health | That can't be real |
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| 09:09.43 | theoddone33 | I hate resumes |
| 09:09.46 | theoddone33 | can't make em look good |
| 09:10.25 | Health | Maybe it's because you don't look good? |
| 09:10.25 | theoddone33 | no it's mostly I just suck with wordpad/html or whatever |
| 09:10.49 | ckknight | can pet attacks be reflected? |
| 09:10.54 | steevdave | you're writing a resume with/in html.... theres your first issue |
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| 09:10.58 | ckknight | mikma: hrm, alright |
| 09:11.11 | Jaxon | ckknight: I've never seen it happen |
| 09:11.15 | mitch0 | ckk: mobs reflect them for sure (at least the WE water bolt) |
| 09:11.28 | mitch0 | it's immune to it, but it's still reflected |
| 09:11.36 | ckknight | okay |
| 09:11.38 | mitch0 | immune to water bolt obviously, not the reflect |
| 09:11.41 | ckknight | I'll put it in Parrot anyway |
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| 09:13.22 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r42596 10Parrot/Events.lua: Parrot_Events - add pet outgoing events |
| 09:14.19 | Mikk | mitch0: pokepoke. check your PMs :P |
| 09:14.58 | mitch0 | ah |
| 09:15.42 | theoddone33 | http://icculus.org/~theoddone33/resume.html getting there |
| 09:15.47 | theoddone33 | still ugly |
| 09:15.51 | kaiden^ | hey guys, is there a grid addon that displays a grid over the screen to help you line up things |
| 09:16.03 | kaiden^ | *wishes all addons had snap to center like quartz* |
| 09:16.03 | theoddone33 | you can do that with eepanels |
| 09:16.04 | kaiden^ | :P |
| 09:16.15 | theoddone33 | it may take a little work though |
| 09:16.30 | theoddone33 | I made a couple eepanels to mark the center of my screen |
| 09:16.38 | theoddone33 | then deleted them once everything was lined up |
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| 09:17.05 | ckknight | kaiden^: check out Align, should be on wowi |
| 09:17.08 | odt | yeah |
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| 09:17.17 | Boubouille | "Created patches for the Linux versions of Heretic 2 and Kohan: Immortal Sovereigns." |
| 09:17.19 | Boubouille | Geek. |
| 09:17.40 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r42596 10Parrot/Events.lua: Parrot_Events - add pet outgoing events |
| 09:17.42 | theoddone33 | that was my job |
| 09:17.50 | ckknight | wtf? |
| 09:17.56 | theoddone33 | the geek stuff is all under personal projects |
| 09:18.05 | Mikk | ckknight: just me optimizing ciabot interface |
| 09:18.15 | ckknight | ...okay |
| 09:18.38 | kaiden^ | lol |
| 09:18.53 | kaiden^ | sorry that was classic, wtf.. I didn't do that! ;) |
| 09:19.49 | nevcairiel | Mikk: you shouldve faked some commit notes |
| 09:19.57 | ckknight | meh, I don't care |
| 09:20.26 | Mikk | mikk * r42597 Ace2/ (deleted 18 files) |
| 09:20.26 | Mikk | - Muaha! |
| 09:20.44 | nevcairiel | hehe |
| 09:21.43 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r42596 10Parrot/Events.lua: Parrot_Events - add pet outgoing events |
| 09:21.48 | Mikk | whewt! |
| 09:21.53 | ckknight | ? |
| 09:21.53 | Mikk | it runs in ze background! |
| 09:21.56 | ckknight | fun |
| 09:21.58 | mitch0 | gratz |
| 09:22.07 | Mikk | ckknight: less commit lag |
| 09:22.32 | ckknight | cool. |
| 09:23.48 | nevcairiel | and wont break our commits when CIA is down, right? |
| 09:24.00 | Mikk | that's the plan |
| 09:24.35 | Mikk | ok, one more spam to see that everything works with everything |
| 09:24.36 | CIA-22 | 03 * r 10/: |
| 09:24.40 | Mikk | nope =( |
| 09:24.57 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r42596 10Parrot/Events.lua: Parrot_Events - add pet outgoing events |
| 09:25.05 | Mikk | ah, there |
| 09:25.22 | CIA-22 | 03jncl * r42597 10Skinner/AddonSkins/Violation.lua: Skinner: Fix for Violation bug, I hope |
| 09:26.06 | mitch0 | btw, how do I set a "caption" for a Dewdrop menu? |
| 09:26.14 | mitch0 | like it's done with the fubar stuff |
| 09:26.31 | mitch0 | (I'm invoking Dewdrop from a slash handler, not via foobar) |
| 09:26.57 | ckknight | caption? |
| 09:27.14 | mitch0 | yeah, the top line, that says like "PitBull" |
| 09:27.36 | mitch0 | if I just open a Dewdrop menu, it only gets the options, and no title/caption/whatever |
| 09:28.00 | ckknight | oh |
| 09:28.01 | mitch0 | and I checked Omen, for example, and it doesn't tell it in its options table, so I guess it's FooBar's doing |
| 09:28.02 | ckknight | use a header |
| 09:28.21 | ckknight | wait, mitch0, does your addon have a fubar plugin as well? |
| 09:28.30 | mitch0 | no |
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| 09:28.38 | mitch0 | at least, not at the moment |
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| 09:29.15 | mitch0 | but I'd like to keep the option for it, so I'd like to keep the options table "clean" and only add the title/header/caption from the slash handler |
| 09:29.24 | ckknight | okay |
| 09:29.27 | ckknight | hrm |
| 09:29.30 | mitch0 | so that in case once I'll do a foobar thing, it won't have 2 |
| 09:29.35 | mitch0 | titles |
| 09:29.37 | ckknight | basically, you make a header with an order of 1 |
| 09:29.51 | mitch0 | somehow merge the tables? |
| 09:29.56 | ckknight | what tables? |
| 09:30.04 | mitch0 | the aceOptionTables |
| 09:30.12 | ckknight | there's only one that I know of. |
| 09:30.17 | mitch0 | I mean, I have the "vanilla" options, and bolt a header on it |
| 09:30.36 | mitch0 | not sure I'm getting thru here :) |
| 09:31.38 | Mikk | mitch0: just call your own :AddLine before :FeedAceOptionsTable |
| 09:31.48 | mitch0 | ah. that's it :) |
| 09:31.49 | mitch0 | thanks :) |
| 09:31.55 | mitch0 | sounds teh easy |
| 09:32.41 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r42599 10Parrot/Events.lua: Parrot - add combo point events |
| 09:32.45 | Mikk | headers don't show at all in commandline though |
| 09:32.58 | Mikk | and the problem with only adding the header in the dewdrop interface is that it won't show in Waterfall |
| 09:33.16 | Mikk | so i personally would just add the header to the aceoption header |
| 09:33.16 | Mikk | but it's not my addon :> |
| 09:33.54 | mitch0 | mikk: whaterfall somehow adds a nice title on it's own |
| 09:34.08 | mitch0 | mikk: at least that's how it works with quartz |
| 09:34.19 | Mikk | true |
| 09:35.03 | mitch0 | is it worth supporting both waterfall and dewdrop btw? |
| 09:36.43 | Kinkx | How do you add the pvprank to the name with CowTip? Isn't it just "[SmartClass?ClassColor][PvPRank] [NameRealm]" ? |
| 09:36.56 | ckknight | mitch0: srsly, just copy how Parrot does it. |
| 09:37.01 | ckknight | ;-) |
| 09:37.14 | Mikk | mitch0: well, waterfall is kinda supported implicitly. if someone installs Niagara, it'll just snarf your aceoptions table and display |
| 09:37.16 | ckknight | Kinkx: seems like that'd work |
| 09:37.21 | mitch0 | parrot wasn't installed at the moment I was hunting for "example code" :) |
| 09:37.32 | ckknight | mitch0: copy now ;-) |
| 09:37.38 | Health | ;-))))))))) |
| 09:37.42 | Kinkx | It doesn't though, I can't get [PvPRank] to display anything, even on a seperate line with just that :[ |
| 09:38.05 | Kinkx | oh wait, PvPRank isn't the same as title? |
| 09:38.08 | Kinkx | Gladiator etc |
| 09:38.32 | mitch0 | oh, and I'll have to do the embeds.xml stuff, too |
| 09:38.40 | mitch0 | so much werk |
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| 09:39.43 | mitch0 | ckk: why don't you use AceLocale in Parrot? (been hunting for that code yesterday, too, so I think I'll steal that too :) |
| 09:40.28 | ckknight | mitch0: cause I'm not done yet, it uses a fake AceLocale instance that'll make things easy later |
| 09:40.38 | ckknight | I'll replace it with a real one when the time comes |
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| 09:40.42 | mitch0 | gah, Parrot doesn't even have Dewdrop support :) |
| 09:40.46 | iNFUSE | hi i have a question |
| 09:40.52 | ckknight | Kinkx: don't kow |
| 09:40.58 | ckknight | iNFUSE: why is your name so yell-tastic? |
| 09:41.04 | ckknight | Kinkx: know* |
| 09:41.14 | iNFUSE | i dont know what yell-tastic is, sorry |
| 09:41.48 | Kinkx | Anyone know how to add titles to CowTip? I.e. "Gladiator <name>" instead of just "<name>" |
| 09:41.52 | iNFUSE | but, i wanted to know what this black bar/space in this picture is http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v468/chipcanfish/newui.jpg |
| 09:41.53 | ckknight | iNFUSE: capitalized. |
| 09:41.59 | iNFUSE | oh |
| 09:42.03 | CIA-22 | 03jncl * r42600 10Skinner/AddonSkins/Violation.lua: Skinner: Violation skin updated for v42584 |
| 09:42.15 | ckknight | at the top? not sure. |
| 09:42.20 | iNFUSE | the bottom |
| 09:42.30 | ckknight | oh |
| 09:42.34 | ckknight | that's Skinner |
| 09:43.02 | iNFUSE | and i can like put my chat on one side, like my action buttons in the middle, and combat log on the other end? |
| 09:43.24 | ckknight | yep |
| 09:43.45 | iNFUSE | can i download that Skinner through wow ace updater |
| 09:43.59 | kaiden^ | yes |
| 09:44.29 | iNFUSE | oh |
| 09:44.39 | iNFUSE | according to wow ace updater it's allready installed |
| 09:44.47 | iNFUSE | i'm gonna have to look, brb |
| 09:45.06 | Neebler | ckknight: is there a way to SetDesaturated all of the icons displayed on FuBar? |
| 09:45.16 | ckknight | probably. |
| 09:45.31 | vhaarr | easy as pie, read the code |
| 09:45.40 | Neebler | I tryed putting it in various places in fubars code, with no luck |
| 09:45.45 | iNFUSE | i have another questions |
| 09:45.48 | iNFUSE | question* |
| 09:46.08 | iNFUSE | i havent updated my addons in a few weeks, if i update them now, will the addons go back to default settings and whatnot/ |
| 09:46.10 | iNFUSE | ?* |
| 09:46.13 | Neebler | easy fro you vharr, but I'm not a coder |
| 09:46.26 | Mikk | iNFUSE: usually no. but one or two may not be backward compatible. |
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| 09:46.36 | vhaarr | Neebler: then become one |
| 09:46.38 | vhaarr | :p |
| 09:46.39 | iNFUSE | what does that mean Mikk |
| 09:46.45 | vhaarr | iNFUSE: it's up to the addon |
| 09:46.55 | vhaarr | iNFUSE: it means we can't answer your question |
| 09:47.25 | Boubouille | vhaarr probably can, but he won't because he's evil. |
| 09:47.39 | Awaa | wtb addon that putsup an grid over entire screen, eye measurement sucks |
| 09:47.44 | Neebler | infuse: backup all of your addons and WTF directory before doing a big update after that long |
| 09:47.57 | Mikk | if it's a new addon by ckknight, it'll prolly break its settings on a weekly basis :P |
| 09:48.21 | kaiden^ | can someone link 2 fairly easy to get weapons for a enhancement shaman at lvl 70 that are good? |
| 09:48.22 | kaiden^ | :) |
| 09:48.28 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r42601 10Parrot/Events.lua: Parrot_Events - add Power Gain/Loss |
| 09:48.30 | iNFUSE | is there a way i can check if theres an update for a certain addon through wow ace updater |
| 09:48.36 | Neebler | www.wowhead.com kaiden |
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| 09:49.04 | Mikk | iNFUSE: after taht long, you can almost assume they've all been updated |
| 09:49.08 | kaiden^ | Neebler, fairly certain i already knew about wowhead.com and last time i checked wowhead can't suggest good choices for weapons.. |
| 09:49.19 | Neebler | yes it can! |
| 09:49.25 | kaiden^ | no, it can list weapons |
| 09:49.26 | Neebler | the armory can as well |
| 09:49.49 | kaiden^ | it can suggest higher level weapons, i'm asking someone that plays a shaman to suggest what they think is a good weapon |
| 09:50.10 | kaiden^ | currently i'm wielding 2 fast weapons trying to figure out which people like more slower or faster |
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| 09:50.32 | Mikk | kaiden: current thinking ony shammy forum is that you want slower weapons |
| 09:50.55 | Mikk | still dual wielding tho |
| 09:51.59 | kaiden^ | yeah i'm getting tired of 1.5 speed weapons :P |
| 09:52.24 | Neebler | with stormstrike and windfury, a slowmainhand is ideal |
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| 09:52.56 | ilifin | shammy dps is at it's best as melee with equal speed MH and OH with same WF rank on both |
| 09:53.15 | iNFUSE | i enabled Skinner, but I dont know how to create that big black area to put my things in |
| 09:53.16 | ilifin | and preferrably above 2.5 |
| 09:53.18 | Mikk | lots of theories about how to maximize shammy melee dps yeah =) |
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| 09:54.53 | kaiden^ | back to my original question, can anyone suggest a good set of weapons to go after that aren't terribly hard to get? |
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| 09:55.13 | subbawt | get on some arena teams |
| 09:55.24 | iNFUSE | can someone help me out |
| 09:55.30 | ilifin | kaiden^, as wf shammy? |
| 09:55.46 | subbawt | two gladiator mainhands are ideal :P |
| 09:55.46 | kaiden^ | ilifin, yeah |
| 09:55.54 | ilifin | kaiden^, do you have heroic groups available, if so, get the fistweapons from auchenai crypts and underbog |
| 09:56.06 | ilifin | 71.9 dps, speed 2.6 on both |
| 09:56.08 | ilifin | and good stats |
| 09:56.13 | ilifin | they also look insanely cool :p |
| 09:56.24 | Arrowmaster | whats the crypts one look like? |
| 09:56.33 | kaiden^ | ilifin, that's the problem, my server sucks for grouping, i was one of the first draenei shaman in america to 70 and kinda just bailed on him the instant i hit 70 due to this server sucking ass for population |
| 09:56.45 | ilifin | oh |
| 09:56.48 | ilifin | well |
| 09:56.54 | ilifin | then I'm not sure |
| 09:57.00 | ilifin | really not any good shammy weapons out there |
| 09:57.09 | ilifin | apart from going BS and getting the drakefist hammer |
| 09:57.14 | kaiden^ | ok i'll shoot for the auchenai / underbog heroic ones |
| 09:57.16 | ilifin | and then something for OH .. |
| 09:57.16 | CIA-22 | 03candykiss * r42602 10ArkInventory/ (ArkInventory.toc Locale/zhCN.lua): |
| 09:57.17 | CIA-22 | ArkInventory: |
| 09:57.17 | CIA-22 | - add zhCN localization |
| 09:57.21 | subbawt | gladiator! |
| 09:57.26 | subbawt | i think you still get points even if you lose a bunch |
| 09:57.35 | subbawt | it might take a while |
| 09:58.08 | kaiden^ | i'm seriously contemplating just crafting two fel edged battleaxes |
| 09:58.52 | subbawt | kind of expensive |
| 09:59.15 | kaiden^ | meh, i'm a packrat, i have the mats laying around i'm sure |
| 09:59.22 | kaiden^ | all but the primal nethers at least |
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| 10:05.07 | iNFUSE | how do i make that big area on the bottom like i see in most screenshots with Skinner? |
| 10:05.50 | ckknight | iNFUSE: type /skinner and read. |
| 10:06.12 | iNFUSE | ok |
| 10:06.28 | iNFUSE | just /skinner |
| 10:06.29 | iNFUSE | ? |
| 10:06.37 | Neebler | *facepalm* |
| 10:08.34 | Srosh | D'oh! |
| 10:08.39 | [dRaCo] | prince malchezaar has a nice axe |
| 10:08.51 | iNFUSE | i still dont understand |
| 10:09.04 | [dRaCo] | if you've got access to karazhan, that is |
| 10:10.02 | Srosh | iNFUSE, /skinner bottomframe - and if you don't know what to do then, give up |
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| 10:12.16 | iNFUSE | its only doing it for the chat window |
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| 10:15.04 | iNFUSE | oh nevermind |
| 10:15.06 | iNFUSE | i got it |
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| 10:17.26 | kaiden^ | kinda confused as to why they have no fricken dual wield recipes that aren't swordsmith :( |
| 10:19.46 | Neebler | Just went through each function in FuBar.lua and FuBar_panel.lua and cannot find any mention of setting icons or a place to put :SetDesaturated(1) |
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| 10:26.38 | kaiden^ | bleh donchew hate whenever you see someone elses ui and it just looks fantastic, but when you actually set yours up like that it just feels wrong and is unusable |
| 10:27.40 | Neebler | consolidate and refine the look. most times editing it remade too big |
| 10:28.31 | pb_ee1 | Does anybody know a good program to convert BLP to TGA (or whatever) files? |
| 10:28.39 | pb_ee1 | I need to extract all the icons of WoW |
| 10:28.52 | pb_ee1 | Well, not extract, but convert |
| 10:29.11 | pb_ee1 | ckknight_: You should let the user be able to right click on debuff icons on PitBull |
| 10:29.20 | Neebler | there's a "tools" section on curse-gaming that has what you're looking for pb_ee |
| 10:29.32 | ckknight_ | pb_ee1: um, what would it do? |
| 10:29.36 | Neebler | "blp 2 tga" converter |
| 10:29.39 | pb_ee1 | Neebler: Well i've found http://wow-en.curse-gaming.com/downloads/details/2641/ but it does not world for *all* the icons |
| 10:29.52 | pb_ee1 | ckknight_: Priest are not able to remove the "Mind Vision" spell if casted |
| 10:29.57 | pb_ee1 | priests* |
| 10:30.08 | ckknight_ | you can't fade debuffs manually. |
| 10:30.18 | pb_ee1 | actually this one, you can |
| 10:30.31 | pb_ee1 | mind vision can be dispelles by right clicking on the *debuff* icon |
| 10:30.59 | ckknight | yea, I don't believe you, since there's no Blizzard API for that |
| 10:31.01 | pb_ee1 | Neebler: thanks ;) |
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| 10:31.18 | pb_ee1 | ckknight: that's strange, i've always did it with my priest |
| 10:31.21 | kaiden^ | ckknight, i can test it for ya, dual boxing my priest |
| 10:31.50 | kaiden^ | yup mind vision is a debuff that can be removed via right clicking it |
| 10:31.50 | pb_ee1 | ckknight: dunno though how it is managed, but i'm absolutely SURE that it works like that: you right click on the debuff icon |
| 10:32.01 | kaiden^ | but only the caster of the debuff can remove it |
| 10:32.07 | kaiden^ | so the mind visioned target cannot |
| 10:32.08 | pb_ee1 | kaiden: obviously |
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| 10:32.27 | kaiden^ | pb_ee1, they should make it so the person being mind visioned can remove it if they dont want to be mind visioned.. :) |
| 10:32.35 | kaiden^ | can we say invasion of privacy *(lol)* |
| 10:32.37 | pb_ee1 | kaiden: hehe :P |
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| 10:33.56 | Neebler | ckknight: well can't hurt to request it. So feature request to add a "SetDesaturated" to all of fubars icons. Not added to the dewdrop menu to clutter it, but a /slash command would make my day |
| 10:37.58 | Neebler | I love how EvilElvis has an "advanced" configuration section on ee_panels. Allowing to add all sorts of odd setups, but keeping the main configuration simple for the less advanced |
| 10:38.03 | Neebler | don't see that in many addons |
| 10:38.20 | mitch0 | if I register a dewdrop menu for a frame, but later I do frame:EnableMouse(false), it'll correctly not eat right-clicks, right? I mean, the dewdrop menu won't come up as long as I don't call frame:EnableMouse(true) again |
| 10:40.01 | mitch0 | I really wish I could test this stuff @work :) |
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| 10:44.07 | vhaarr | Neebler: The icons aren't created by FuBar. |
| 10:45.30 | CIA-22 | 03rabbit * r42603 10ClosetGnome/ClosetGnome.lua: ClosetGnome: Fix GetOutfitsUsingItem. |
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| 10:47.38 | CIA-22 | 03mikk * r42604 10Baggins/ (Baggins-Filtering.lua Baggins.lua): Baggins: Bugfix: Items that were caught by bank categories would never show up as unfiltered in regular bags. Whoups. |
| 10:49.17 | iNFUSE | i have a question |
| 10:49.31 | iNFUSE | does my wow resolution make a difference if it's different then my desktop resolution |
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| 10:49.50 | Mikk | yes |
| 10:49.54 | cryogen | if you're running full screen, yes |
| 10:50.10 | iNFUSE | difference as in what |
| 10:50.14 | iNFUSE | and yes i run in fullscreen |
| 10:50.23 | kaiden^ | difference in fps |
| 10:50.23 | Mikk | the resolution will obviously be different |
| 10:50.28 | Mikk | and that |
| 10:50.30 | iNFUSE | yes i know |
| 10:50.36 | kaiden^ | then why did you ask |
| 10:50.36 | kaiden^ | heh |
| 10:50.37 | Mikk | so what the heck are you wondering >.< |
| 10:50.46 | iNFUSE | but like my desktop is 1024x768, and i changed my wow resolution to 1280x1024 |
| 10:50.51 | iNFUSE | and everything looked all small and smooth |
| 10:51.00 | Mikk | that's good innit |
| 10:51.01 | iNFUSE | in wow |
| 10:51.17 | iNFUSE | and on my desktop, i changed my resolution to 1280x1024 |
| 10:51.21 | iNFUSE | everything looks small |
| 10:51.26 | iNFUSE | like i gotta squint my eyes to see |
| 10:51.27 | ThePug[zZz] | I play WoW in 1280x1024 |
| 10:51.35 | kaiden^ | iNFUSE, i would suggest glasses then |
| 10:51.39 | ilifin | why do you run desktop at 1024x768 if your monitor is 1280x1024 natively |
| 10:51.42 | kaiden^ | as 1280x1024 isn't a very small resolution |
| 10:51.44 | kaiden^ | :) |
| 10:51.48 | mitch0 | iNFUSE: and large fonts settings |
| 10:52.00 | Mikk | iNFUSE: so why have your desktop at 1280x1024 if you don't like it. change the desktop back. run wow at 1280 |
| 10:52.04 | iNFUSE | the highest my monitor resoluton goes is 1440x900 |
| 10:52.08 | Mikk | having different resolutions is just fine |
| 10:52.10 | ilifin | laptop? |
| 10:52.12 | Mikk | CRT |
| 10:52.17 | Mikk | or |
| 10:52.17 | kaiden^ | iNFUSE, ah you have a widescreen? |
| 10:52.17 | Mikk | err |
| 10:52.20 | iNFUSE | cause i configured my skinner options |
| 10:52.29 | iNFUSE | to have more black space |
| 10:52.37 | iNFUSE | so i changed the resolution to 1280x1024 |
| 10:52.43 | iNFUSE | cause thats what my friend said he played at |
| 10:52.46 | iNFUSE | so i tried it |
| 10:52.52 | iNFUSE | i dunno |
| 10:53.04 | kaiden^ | iNFUSE, if you have a widescreen dont use non native widescreen resolutions |
| 10:53.08 | iNFUSE | its a 19 inch tft lcd monitor it says on the monitor sticker |
| 10:53.21 | CIA-22 | 03nargiddley * r42605 10Baggins/Baggins.lua: Baggins: Refresh filtering when a profile is enabled |
| 10:54.12 | iNFUSE | so i should be running my resolution in a widescreen resolution? |
| 10:54.50 | ThePug[zZz] | infuse |
| 10:54.56 | ThePug[zZz] | only if it's a widescreen monitor |
| 10:55.02 | ThePug[zZz] | http://img168.imageshack.us/img168/4619/wowscrnshot070307055357gz8.jpg |
| 10:55.03 | ThePug[zZz] | btw |
| 10:55.06 | ThePug[zZz] | there's a screen of my IU |
| 10:55.08 | ThePug[zZz] | UI* |
| 10:55.21 | Mikk | iNFUSE: there's no "should". run whatever looks nice. |
| 10:55.22 | iNFUSE | i want to use a widescreen resolution but i dont want to make my wow lag |
| 10:55.22 | Mikk | just test |
| 10:55.29 | Mikk | if you like it, use it |
| 10:55.33 | Mikk | if it makes wow lag, dont use it |
| 10:55.35 | kaiden^ | wtf .. fuckin cracker jack npc's |
| 10:55.49 | ThePug[zZz] | infuse you don't want to run a widescreen if your monitor is not widescreen |
| 10:55.54 | ThePug[zZz] | especially in WoW |
| 10:55.55 | ThePug[zZz] | lol |
| 10:55.58 | kaiden^ | i landed in the aldor area of smv on my scryer priest following my aldor shaman and they attacked him and killed him.. fair enough i expected that |
| 10:56.05 | Mikk | ThePug[zZz]: well, he'll find out if that's the case, won't he? |
| 10:56.14 | kaiden^ | then when i rez'd him they attacked him again even though he was far enough away |
| 10:56.20 | ThePug[zZz] | I hate my UI right now |
| 10:56.20 | kaiden^ | when i healed him so he didn't die again they attacked me |
| 10:56.23 | ThePug[zZz] | it's ugly =\ |
| 10:56.26 | ThePug[zZz] | kiaden |
| 10:56.28 | ThePug[zZz] | kaiden |
| 10:56.31 | ThePug[zZz] | ur dumb |
| 10:56.43 | ThePug[zZz] | healing a person who's getting attacked by an enemy faction is a nono |
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| 10:57.20 | mitch0 | did they actually kill him? they usually just port me out of shattrah |
| 10:57.23 | Mikk | ThePug[zZz]: The thing is, that faction is friendly with kaiden |
| 10:57.34 | kaiden^ | Mikk, no need explaining that to him |
| 10:57.40 | kaiden^ | he wants to be a brat and call people dumb |
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| 10:58.42 | kaiden^ | Mikk, what's even weirder about that, is i did the same thing at the scryer smv camp and the scryer mobs dont attack, i was under the impression that friendly factions couldn't change to unfriendly on whim :P |
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| 10:59.14 | mitch0 | ah. me needs sleep. it didn't happen in SH :) |
| 11:02.16 | CIA-22 | 03helium * r42606 10Babble-2.2/ (4 files in 4 dirs): |
| 11:02.16 | CIA-22 | Babble-2.2: |
| 11:02.16 | CIA-22 | - updated zhTW: Gas, Mount, Race, Spell |
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| 11:12.11 | Wobin_ | rofl |
| 11:12.12 | Wobin_ | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=113192474&sid=1 |
| 11:12.13 | Wobin_ | win |
| 11:13.27 | Mikk | okay.. so.. hrm.. modules |
| 11:13.44 | Mikk | is there any way that I can have a function in the module prototype called even though the module is overriding it? |
| 11:14.01 | Mikk | (without rewriting the module to explicitly call it via super.foo?) |
| 11:14.17 | Mikk | mostly thinking of .OnEnable here :> |
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| 11:15.24 | BankZ | Any idea why fishing click casting doesnt always work? |
| 11:15.40 | BankZ | seems like it doesnt work in some lakes |
| 11:16.14 | BankZ | Like outside or inside SSC |
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| 11:17.29 | BankZ | Anyone know? |
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| 11:21.08 | kaiden^ | BankZ, depth of the pool, size of the lake |
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| 11:21.46 | BankZ | so they are not deep enough? |
| 11:22.01 | kaiden^ | possibly |
| 11:22.17 | BankZ | no way to fix it? |
| 11:22.20 | kaiden^ | i'm just offering some possibilities since nobody else is answering |
| 11:22.40 | BankZ | but do you know what you are talking about :P |
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| 11:25.17 | CIA-22 | 03helium * r42607 10CastYeller/announces/rogue.lua: CastYeller: updated zhTW localization |
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| 11:41.01 | Josh_Borke | morning |
| 11:41.07 | ccKep | hey all |
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| 11:48.45 | mitch0 | wonder if I should get rid of my .xml file and create the frames from lua code... |
| 11:49.25 | CIA-22 | 03phyber * r42608 10FuBar_TopScoreFu/ (3 files): |
| 11:49.25 | CIA-22 | FuBar_TopScoreFu: |
| 11:49.25 | CIA-22 | - Try to track Paladin Vengeance/Seal of Vengeance. |
| 11:49.25 | CIA-22 | - Commented out some code that should allow Druid Mangles to be tracked. Start shouting and /crying if it breaks some other tracking. |
| 11:49.25 | CIA-22 | - Added option to show new scores as SCT notifications. |
| 11:49.27 | CIA-22 | - Using Shaman Flametongue Attack from Babble-Spell now instead of our own locals. 1 down, 2 to go. (That's two attacks left in the locals that should really be in Babble-Spell). |
| 11:49.32 | CIA-22 | - Probably some other changes. |
| 11:49.49 | mitch0 | hehe |
| 11:50.24 | Kinkx | Is it possible to do this in like one expression or whatever? [Shift?Text(Health:)] [Shift?SmartHP] |
| 11:51.09 | Kinkx | DogTags > Kinkx :( |
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| 11:52.34 | mitch0 | ls |
| 11:52.49 | phyber | bin boot cdrom dev emul etc home initrd initrd.img lib lib32 lib64 media mnt opt proc root sbin srv storage sys tmp usr var vmlinuz vmlinuz.old |
| 11:53.07 | mitch0 | :) |
| 11:53.20 | mitch0 | watcha doing in / anyway? |
| 11:53.35 | phyber | listing it. ;) |
| 11:53.35 | dranor | rm -rf / |
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| 11:55.00 | BankZ- | Violation_EffectiveHealing, ooooohhhh |
| 11:55.02 | BankZ- | nice |
| 11:55.11 | BankZ- | ive wanted that for a while |
| 11:55.35 | BankZ- | violation doesnt keep its data through a /rl or disconnect, right? |
| 11:55.47 | Mikk | no |
| 11:55.47 | mitch0 | don't think so |
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| 11:55.58 | BankZ- | I think thats the only thing its missing |
| 11:56.21 | mitch0 | don't disconnect :P |
| 11:56.26 | mitch0 | lolz |
| 11:56.32 | BankZ- | well, thats if EffectiveHealing works (I assume it does) |
| 11:57.11 | CIA-22 | 03mikk * r42609 10Postal/ (Modules/Express.lua Postal.lua): Postal: Make it behave the first time the mailbox is opened when LoD. |
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| 11:59.46 | ccKep | [13:55:59] <BankZ-> I think thats the only thing its missing <<< some sort of Timeline to save stats would be nice too I think |
| 12:00.22 | ccKep | thats the only thing I'm missing from sws |
| 12:00.29 | mitch0 | is the "last combat" / "full run" thing in there already? if not, that's missing, too :) |
| 12:00.52 | mitch0 | maybe it's the same as what you mean with timeline cc |
| 12:01.06 | ccKep | did you ever use swstats? |
| 12:01.44 | odt | the new swstats has a logparser i cannot live without anymore |
| 12:01.54 | Roartindon | odt: Tried Eavesdrop? |
| 12:02.12 | odt | no |
| 12:02.17 | mitch0 | cc: no. I only used damagemeters before vio |
| 12:02.28 | ccKep | basically it behaves like this: |
| 12:02.45 | ccKep | it records data until you / some raidleader issued a reset, but the reset didn't delete the data |
| 12:02.59 | ccKep | it just started empty tables |
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| 12:03.30 | odt | swstats log gives you a window with all raid events, and dynamic filterint options |
| 12:03.36 | ccKep | like in SavedData["Some ID to identify the time segment"] = CurrentData; CurrentData = {}; |
| 12:03.53 | odt | so you can for example filter "sacrifice" and see how long each of illhoofes demonic chains was up |
| 12:04.30 | mitch0 | yeah, something like that would be nice, although I'm not adamant about it being in SavedVariables, just an in-session log would be enough for me |
| 12:04.33 | ccKep | the saved data table is only cleared when /sws nuke is called, not on a simple reset |
| 12:04.39 | ThePug[zZz] | Does anyone know how to change the color on SW Stats? Checked the options and saw nothing =\ |
| 12:04.48 | ccKep | insession would be enough, yes |
| 12:05.32 | mitch0 | I'd be happy with a separate "last combat" table as well, tbh |
| 12:05.37 | ccKep | ThePug[zZz]: general options is for header color and background color and stuff, in the window-specific settings you can define the bar colors (class colors or pre-defined color) |
| 12:05.49 | ThePug[zZz] | thanks. |
| 12:05.53 | mitch0 | just to check the whole run and each bossfight (after the fight obviously) |
| 12:06.07 | ccKep | shouldn't be hard to implement I guess |
| 12:06.15 | ccKep | since it already has the option to auto-reset on combat end |
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| 12:06.41 | ccKep | just store the results in a second table and restore that table if the user wants to .o |
| 12:06.43 | ccKep | :o |
| 12:07.20 | ccKep | (didn't look at the code though) |
| 12:08.12 | CIA-22 | 03phyber * r42610 10Babble-2.2/Babble-Spell-2.2/Babble-Spell-2.2.lua: |
| 12:08.12 | CIA-22 | Babble-2.2: |
| 12:08.12 | CIA-22 | - Babble-Spell: Add enUS and koKR translations for Windfury Attack and Flametongue Attack, taken from translations in TopScoreFu. |
| 12:08.41 | Kinkx | ckknight_ - Would it be possible to add "UnitPVPName(Unit)" to DogTags? Would return e.g. "Gladiator <name>".. since [PvPRank] doesn't work, due to UnitPVPRank(unit) will return 0 always now, and GetPVPRankInfo(rank, unit) will only return PvP ranks, not any other kind of titles, like arena titles or Scarab Lord titles etc. |
| 12:09.49 | CIA-22 | 03phyber * r42611 10FuBar_TopScoreFu/ (3 files): |
| 12:09.49 | CIA-22 | FuBar_TopScoreFu: |
| 12:09.49 | CIA-22 | - Remove translations for Windfury Attack and Flametongue Attack, use the versiosn now present in Babble-Spell. |
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| 12:13.02 | ThePug[zZz] | Anyone know of an Ace alternative to AtlasLoot? |
| 12:13.10 | ThePug[zZz] | Unless |
| 12:13.13 | ThePug[zZz] | it is ace |
| 12:13.14 | ThePug[zZz] | =p |
| 12:13.29 | ThePug[zZz] | just not exactly liking the interface |
| 12:14.03 | Josh_Borke | it could be ace |
| 12:14.33 | ccKep | http://files.wowace.com/AtlasLoot/ |
| 12:14.34 | ccKep | xD |
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| 12:17.36 | Tupsi | alternative would be cartographer |
| 12:17.45 | mitch0 | an alpha setting of 0 is the full transparent, right? |
| 12:18.33 | ccKep | guess so |
| 12:18.42 | CIA-22 | 03roartindon * r42612 10TagCompiler-1.0/TagCompiler-1.0/TagCompiler-1.0.lua: |
| 12:18.42 | CIA-22 | TagCompiler-1.0 |
| 12:18.42 | CIA-22 | - Changed cache key lookup for strings |
| 12:22.19 | Xuerian | ... AtlasLoot IS ace now... >_> |
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| 12:22.34 | Xuerian | Funny thing is, Yatlas was going ace too, before ender left... |
| 12:22.34 | Health | I wonder how many commits a svn repo can have before it explodes |
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| 12:23.09 | mitch0 | erm, if I have a <Script file="Addon.lua"> in my Addon.xml, do I need to list Addon.lua in the .toc (after Addon.xml) or not? |
| 12:23.17 | Josh_Borke | mitch0: no |
| 12:23.18 | Xuerian | No |
| 12:23.47 | mitch0 | what happens if I do? |
| 12:23.53 | mitch0 | ('cos that's how it is now :) |
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| 12:24.18 | Josh_Borke | it gets checked twice |
| 12:24.23 | Josh_Borke | possibly loaded twice |
| 12:24.35 | mitch0 | I just got a bit confused here |
| 12:25.29 | Josh_Borke | it probably gets loaded twice but since it happens sequentially then it doesn't REALLY matter |
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| 12:25.59 | mitch0 | this <Script> line is before any <Frame>s, but in Addon.lua I try to cache the frames in locals during load. will it work? or should I do the cache in OnLoad()? |
| 12:26.01 | CIA-22 | 03phyber * r42613 10FuBar_BagFu/BagFu.lua: |
| 12:26.01 | CIA-22 | FuBar_BagFu: |
| 12:26.01 | CIA-22 | - Added an option for BagFu to open all of your Bank Bags when you're at the |
| 12:26.01 | CIA-22 | bank. Hopefully it should work, someone has changed how the options work so I |
| 12:26.01 | CIA-22 | have no idea if setting an individual 'set' for an option works anymore. |
| 12:26.02 | CIA-22 | Awesome. |
| 12:28.50 | mitch0 | or I should just get rid of the .xml and build the frames from the lua |
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| 12:29.06 | Xuerian | mitch0: Give in to the lua. |
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| 12:29.24 | Adirelle | hi |
| 12:29.46 | Sole | whats a decent text editor these days? |
| 12:29.53 | mitch0 | isn't there an .xml -> .lua compiler somewhere ? :) |
| 12:30.03 | Adirelle | question to AceOO gurus : can I subclass Mixin to add inherited, custom behavior to my mixin ? |
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| 12:32.17 | Josh_Borke | mitch0: nope |
| 12:32.20 | Josh_Borke | sole: vim |
| 12:32.29 | Sole | Josh_Borke: I'll check it out thanks |
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| 12:32.46 | mitch0 | ugh |
| 12:32.48 | Josh_Borke | mitch0: pretty sure the script is read in first |
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| 12:33.08 | mitch0 | sole: fasten your seatbelts, though if you haven't worked with any vi style editor yet :) |
| 12:33.15 | mitch0 | sole: but it's worth the learning curve |
| 12:33.25 | Josh_Borke | sole said decent, he didn't say easy to learn :-D |
| 12:33.39 | mitch0 | vim is teh awesomeness, that's sure |
| 12:33.44 | Sole | guess I'll need a harness because Ive got no clue what a vi style editor is |
| 12:34.05 | Josh_Borke | better make it a full body harness |
| 12:34.18 | mitch0 | check out some tutorial |
| 12:34.42 | Sole | so whats so amazing about it? |
| 12:34.51 | Josh_Borke | it's only the best editor ever |
| 12:35.51 | mitch0 | about |
| 12:36.03 | ThePug[zZz] | Question, what mod changes all the bars (like the ones you see in the skill area, the ones I had on elkbuffbars etc). I've seen in other people's UI that they have the bars kinda glossy and shiny. |
| 12:36.27 | mitch0 | skinner perhaps? (no idea really :) |
| 12:36.39 | Sole | bartender3 with some extra addon, I forgot the name |
| 12:36.45 | Sole | cyCircled was it? |
| 12:36.55 | Punkie` | that would do it |
| 12:37.01 | ThePug[zZz] | alright, I'll check that. |
| 12:37.07 | ThePug[zZz] | wish the servers were up so I could go in game and do this |
| 12:37.08 | ThePug[zZz] | =\ |
| 12:37.37 | mitch0 | sole: but if you want an easier ride, eclipse's built in editor is kinda nice, too (it acts up for me with lua files a bit, but I can live with it) |
| 12:38.16 | Sole | ok not liking it so far |
| 12:38.21 | Josh_Borke | lol |
| 12:38.24 | mitch0 | wish I wasn't @work and could test out all this sh*t I've been hacking today :) |
| 12:38.36 | Sole | why the fuck does is there a gVim 7.1 and gVim 7.1 Easy on my desktop? |
| 12:38.45 | Sole | and a Read Only |
| 12:38.54 | Sole | they like confusing me |
| 12:39.00 | Sole | have 1 feking program |
| 12:39.02 | mitch0 | sole: actually, once you get used to it, you'll bitch about all other editors / programs not supporting VI style keyboard shortcuts and editing mode :) |
| 12:39.30 | mitch0 | well, gvim is kinda easy-mode anyway ;) |
| 12:39.49 | Josh_Borke | lol sole |
| 12:39.54 | Josh_Borke | where's your harness? |
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| 12:40.20 | sbu | morning |
| 12:41.35 | Sole | ok the split-open thing is cool |
| 12:42.51 | Sole | ok Ive decided VIM is for linux people |
| 12:42.57 | mitch0 | the biggest hurdle is to get used to the insert-mode/command-mode thing, then learn some of the basic commands, after that it's a joy |
| 12:43.08 | mitch0 | oh well :) |
| 12:43.10 | Sole | what insert mode? |
| 12:43.13 | Josh_Borke | i |
| 12:43.14 | Josh_Borke | or a |
| 12:43.15 | Josh_Borke | or I |
| 12:43.16 | Josh_Borke | or S |
| 12:43.17 | Josh_Borke | or A |
| 12:43.19 | Josh_Borke | or C |
| 12:43.20 | mitch0 | or C |
| 12:43.20 | Josh_Borke | or c |
| 12:43.21 | mitch0 | :) |
| 12:43.24 | Fritti | or o |
| 12:43.26 | Fritti | or O |
| 12:43.30 | Josh_Borke | or for the really brave |
| 12:43.33 | Josh_Borke | :%s/ |
| 12:43.52 | mitch0 | :%s is teh rox |
| 12:43.53 | ilifin | :%!perl -pe '%s//' |
| 12:44.05 | mitch0 | doh, that's st00pid |
| 12:44.05 | Sole | I dont gets it |
| 12:44.09 | Josh_Borke | obviously you mean: %s/.// |
| 12:44.20 | ilifin | nah vim doesn't support proper perl regexpers |
| 12:44.24 | CIA-22 | 03ammo * r42614 10ClosetGnome_Switcher/ClosetGnome_Switcher.lua: ClosetGnome_Switcher: bugfix feigndeath |
| 12:44.26 | Fritti | Sole: read http://heather.cs.ucdavis.edu/~matloff/UnixAndC/Editors/ViIntro.html |
| 12:44.34 | mitch0 | also :g |
| 12:44.38 | Josh_Borke | ilifin: supports them well enough for my needs |
| 12:44.43 | Josh_Borke | oh man, <3 <num> G |
| 12:44.49 | ilifin | Josh_Borke - it's \d+ support is crap |
| 12:45.00 | Health | its* |
| 12:45.08 | Josh_Borke | so you mean character class support? yea, it's kinda weak |
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| 12:45.16 | Josh_Borke | thankfully i don't use it ever :-D |
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| 12:45.33 | ilifin | I've used it lots |
| 12:45.42 | Fritti | isn't there a perlre extension for vim then? |
| 12:45.53 | mitch0 | probably there is |
| 12:45.58 | Fritti | never really looked into it, I just use perl -c when I need it :-) |
| 12:46.03 | ilifin | perl -pe! |
| 12:46.08 | Fritti | sorry, -pe |
| 12:46.09 | Fritti | indeed |
| 12:46.13 | mitch0 | actually, there's a built in perl scripting support afaik |
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| 12:46.54 | Wobin_ | yeah, i use vimregexp a lot |
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| 12:47.59 | Sole | whoa |
| 12:48.01 | Sole | vim is funky |
| 12:48.08 | Sole | not sure if its a good way |
| 12:48.13 | Sole | but funky is the word |
| 12:48.22 | Fritti | wait until you've gotten hjkl into your fingers |
| 12:48.31 | Fritti | no more moving your hands while editing |
| 12:48.32 | Fritti | that rules |
| 12:48.35 | dRiN | vim has alot of realtime stuff that people are really fond of |
| 12:48.36 | ilifin | I've never used hjkl |
| 12:48.41 | Wobin_ | nor I really |
| 12:48.42 | Sole | hmm |
| 12:48.46 | ilifin | what is hjkl |
| 12:48.47 | Wobin_ | I can never quite get used to hjkl |
| 12:48.54 | Fritti | go play nethack some more then :) |
| 12:49.04 | Fritti | ilifin: moving the cursor outside of insert mode |
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| 12:49.12 | Wobin_ | hjkl map to the arrow keys |
| 12:49.26 | Fritti | h = <-, j = v, k = ^, l = -> |
| 12:49.39 | mitch0 | hjkl is teh rox |
| 12:49.54 | mitch0 | next step is to remap CapsLock to CTRL |
| 12:49.59 | Wobin_ | or esc |
| 12:50.04 | mitch0 | esc? |
| 12:50.10 | Wobin_ | I always remap capslock to escape |
| 12:50.18 | Fritti | I remap to CTRL |
| 12:50.19 | Wobin_ | makes for easy switching modes |
| 12:50.31 | mitch0 | I use CTRL a lot more than ESC |
| 12:50.35 | Josh_Borke | i do ctrl |
| 12:50.45 | Wobin_ | ctrl isn't as far off as escape is |
| 12:50.45 | Josh_Borke | actually, my keyboard has ctrl in teh caps-lock place |
| 12:50.46 | Fritti | esc is 'that movement with my left hand in which I slam it to the topleft of my keyboard and always hit some key which most probably is ESC' |
| 12:50.54 | mitch0 | so I don't think it's really worth mapping such a good position to ESC |
| 12:51.05 | mitch0 | yes it is, if you're touch-typing |
| 12:51.06 | ilifin | shift d is one of my fav commands |
| 12:51.31 | mitch0 | but in any case, remapping capslock to *anything* is almost mandatory with vim usage :) |
| 12:51.34 | Fritti | markers are mine |
| 12:51.36 | Wobin_ | it's ture |
| 12:51.37 | Wobin_ | true |
| 12:51.37 | Josh_Borke | . is mine |
| 12:51.39 | mitch0 | to avoid teh WTF??! |
| 12:51.50 | Wobin_ | who uses capslock anyway =P |
| 12:51.55 | Josh_Borke | I DO |
| 12:51.56 | Fritti | marking stuff in every file, going back to any marker instantly, rocks |
| 12:52.01 | ilifin | my capslock key gets disabled on any machine I'm on |
| 12:52.04 | Fritti | I just hold shift :) |
| 12:52.07 | Wobin_ | yep |
| 12:52.16 | Wobin_ | Or you can always ~ characters =) |
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| 12:52.34 | Fritti | 100~ ;-) |
| 12:52.39 | Wobin_ | ctrl-v w ~ |
| 12:52.49 | mitch0 | gUw |
| 12:52.51 | mitch0 | :) |
| 12:52.58 | Fritti | nice |
| 12:53.01 | Fritti | didn't know that one :) |
| 12:53.10 | Sole | HOLY SHIT |
| 12:53.14 | Sole | its genius |
| 12:53.29 | Health | ? |
| 12:53.37 | Sole | VIM cures cancer |
| 12:53.38 | mitch0 | sole begins to see the light :) |
| 12:53.42 | Josh_Borke | lol |
| 12:54.00 | Sole | ok Im still a bit scared of it |
| 12:54.07 | Sole | not sure how quick I can work with it |
| 12:54.07 | Fritti | quick, someone introduce him to emacs -- not only does it cure cancer, it also sends mail :-) |
| 12:54.08 | Wobin_ | That's fine =) |
| 12:54.22 | mitch0 | emacs is teh source of all evil! |
| 12:54.23 | Sole | emacs has the word mac in it |
| 12:54.24 | Wobin_ | I'm fairly sure emacs can cause cancer by the mail option =) |
| 12:54.28 | Sole | thats a no go right there |
| 12:54.53 | Sole | I have bad memories of macs |
| 12:55.00 | Fritti | anyway I still only use 5% of vim's features I guess |
| 12:55.03 | Wobin_ | Horrible childhood experience? |
| 12:55.06 | Sole | yes |
| 12:55.12 | Wobin_ | A mac ate your pet dog |
| 12:55.19 | Sole | almost |
| 12:55.33 | Wobin_ | Fritti: yeah, but I'm learning more every day =) |
| 12:55.34 | Sole | it ate my hamster |
| 12:55.38 | Wobin_ | =( |
| 12:55.41 | Wobin_ | poor hamster |
| 12:55.46 | Wobin_ | what a way to go =( |
| 12:55.47 | Sole | he was dead |
| 12:55.56 | Sole | when he was eaten |
| 12:56.00 | Sole | but cmon he deserved a proper burial! |
| 12:56.09 | Sole | poor Chubbles |
| 12:56.11 | Wobin_ | Macs are carrion eaters? =\ |
| 12:56.18 | Wobin_ | did it circle the corpse? |
| 12:56.25 | Sole | kinda |
| 12:56.29 | Sole | it rotated |
| 12:56.32 | Wobin_ | woah |
| 12:56.40 | ilifin | I use a mac :OOO |
| 12:56.58 | Sole | you know them macs which stand on a circular thinger and the monitor is on a big ole stick and it can rotate 360 |
| 12:57.00 | Sole | one of them |
| 12:57.03 | Wobin_ | You'd better be careful leaving dead rodents and small mammals nearby, ilifin... |
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| 12:57.17 | ilifinmac | holy batman, I'm on irc on my mac at home :O |
| 12:58.00 | Sole | funnies time - in transformers in the top sekerets NSA place |
| 12:58.10 | Sole | the secretary of defense is talking to the hot aussie girl |
| 12:58.14 | Sole | and theres a Mac there |
| 12:58.22 | Sole | blatant product placement right there |
| 12:58.34 | mitch0 | happens all the time in every moovie sole |
| 12:58.36 | Sole | why the hell would the US military use macs? |
| 12:58.40 | Sole | I know it does |
| 12:58.45 | Sole | but it was so obvious |
| 12:58.56 | Sole | I still loved the movie |
| 12:59.03 | Sole | enough to watch it twice |
| 12:59.06 | Sole | on two seperate days |
| 12:59.10 | Sole | at two different cinemas |
| 12:59.13 | mitch0 | why the hell would Alien Ship's computers be infected with human-computer viruses?! |
| 12:59.23 | mitch0 | ID4 ftw :) |
| 12:59.26 | Sole | huh? |
| 12:59.38 | mitch0 | idependence day |
| 12:59.40 | Sole | thats in independance day |
| 12:59.45 | Sole | yeh was bout to say |
| 12:59.57 | Sole | that part never made sense to me |
| 12:59.57 | Wobin_ | yeah =) |
| 13:00.07 | Wobin_ | I was going to say "They need a mac in case of alien attack" =) |
| 13:00.08 | Sole | or the fact that he wrote the virus in about 10 minutes |
| 13:00.18 | Wobin_ | or the fact he's not a programmer |
| 13:00.26 | Wobin_ | with a mac, you can do ANYTHING |
| 13:00.37 | mitch0 | he was using an existing virus |
| 13:00.41 | Sole | "HAY WATCH ME U GUSY I WROTE A SUPER VIRUS IN 10 MINS LOL I R PILOTS A AEROPALANE" |
| 13:00.42 | Wobin_ | oh of course |
| 13:00.50 | Wobin_ | and the aliens hadn't updated their defs |
| 13:00.56 | mitch0 | yep |
| 13:01.04 | Sole | aliens obviously forgot to turn on their firewall |
| 13:01.05 | Wobin_ | fershame |
| 13:01.08 | mitch0 | they were running pirated vista |
| 13:01.22 | Wobin_ | ahah |
| 13:01.27 | Wobin_ | a mac interfacing with vista? |
| 13:01.28 | Sole | whats the big deal with vista? |
| 13:01.30 | Wobin_ | good luck =P |
| 13:01.37 | Sole | all I see is "eat ram" |
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| 13:01.47 | Wobin_ | that's an anagram of 'rat meat' |
| 13:01.52 | Wobin_ | almost |
| 13:01.53 | Sole | Vista = Discord of operating system? |
| 13:02.08 | Maldivia | ahh, so the angy pirate face wasn't the virus, it was the UAC popping up, and locking the computer ? |
| 13:02.11 | Wobin_ | Hail eris? |
| 13:02.29 | Wobin_ | "Are you sure you want to accept this virus and shut down everything? Y/N" |
| 13:02.57 | mitch0 | would be nice if ati/nvidia and all the rest would see the light and support normal operating systems well. I'd ditch windows for real then |
| 13:02.58 | Sole | what would be pretty badass is one of those scorpion robots from transformers |
| 13:02.58 | Sole | it was SOOO COOL |
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| 13:03.10 | Sole | mitch0: linux? |
| 13:03.18 | mitch0 | or freebsd |
| 13:03.31 | mitch0 | or basically any other unixish clone |
| 13:03.31 | Sole | theyre all linux to me :P |
| 13:03.36 | mitch0 | gah |
| 13:03.42 | Sole | Im a noob, dont judge me |
| 13:03.43 | mitch0 | blasphemy :) |
| 13:03.44 | Wobin_ | nvidia works fine for me |
| 13:03.48 | Wobin_ | on linux |
| 13:03.56 | Sole | I heart my nvidia card |
| 13:04.00 | Wobin_ | It's true |
| 13:04.06 | Sole | it makes stuff render |
| 13:04.15 | Sole | or stuff makes it render |
| 13:04.18 | Sole | one of those |
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| 13:04.22 | Sole | and its all big |
| 13:04.27 | Sole | with a big metal clunk on it |
| 13:04.29 | Sole | its great |
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| 13:04.56 | mitch0 | anyone care to convert a fairly simple .xml to .lua code for me? :P |
| 13:05.02 | Wobin_ | >, |
| 13:05.04 | Wobin_ | >< |
| 13:05.08 | Wobin_ | the horror =) |
| 13:05.21 | Sole | the answer to that is hell no |
| 13:05.26 | Wobin_ | trying to read xml is the reason I have all my frame creation incode =P |
| 13:05.28 | mitch0 | probably could be done with some xslt :) |
| 13:05.28 | Sole | how simple are we talking here? |
| 13:05.49 | mitch0 | frame, bgfram, text |
| 13:05.50 | mitch0 | not much really |
| 13:05.55 | mitch0 | I'd just hate to do it :) |
| 13:05.55 | Sole | like 20 lines simple or 1000 lines simple? |
| 13:06.10 | Sole | I'll start you off |
| 13:06.12 | mitch0 | 46 lines simple |
| 13:06.25 | mitch0 | have you got svn access now? |
| 13:06.30 | Sole | local f = CreateFrame("Frame", UIParent, some args which I forgot) |
| 13:06.33 | Sole | uhm |
| 13:06.39 | Sole | Ive got access but no svn client |
| 13:06.48 | mitch0 | it's RangeDisplay/RangeDisplay.xml :) |
| 13:06.51 | Sole | format hard drive ftw |
| 13:06.53 | CIA-22 | 03bayi * r42615 10beql/ (beql.lua localization.lua options.lua tooltip.lua): |
| 13:06.53 | CIA-22 | beql: |
| 13:06.53 | CIA-22 | - Displaying quest info in mob and item tooltips |
| 13:06.53 | CIA-22 | - Added options to control tooltip support |
| 13:06.53 | CIA-22 | - Added localization string for tooltip options |
| 13:07.08 | mitch0 | I'll give you a virtual cookie once I get back from shop (I need some redbull or something :) |
| 13:07.23 | Sole | take a party pill |
| 13:07.29 | [dRaCo] | anyone got an arena point calc for me? |
| 13:07.42 | Sole | so the new zealand government banned party pills -_- |
| 13:07.53 | mitch0 | curse has one I think. or mmo-champions? don't remember |
| 13:08.07 | Sole | [dRaCo]: 1. your name is annoying to write 2. glory lib has one |
| 13:08.32 | [dRaCo] | sole: yeah, but like everywhere else, draco is already registered |
| 13:08.51 | mitch0 | http://www.wowwiki.com/Arena_Point_Calculators |
| 13:08.59 | [dRaCo] | found one, thanks |
| 13:09.01 | [dRaCo] | mmo-c |
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| 13:09.26 | mitch0 | 2 weeks ago I was 3 points short for my caster dagger :) |
| 13:10.07 | mitch0 | ok, coffee than I'll get rid of that .xml crap |
| 13:10.41 | Wobin_ | Sole: Party Pills? |
| 13:10.53 | Sole | Wobin_: ya party pills |
| 13:11.07 | Wobin_ | they were legal? |
| 13:11.10 | Sole | ya |
| 13:11.24 | Sole | theyre not as potent as E |
| 13:11.25 | [dRaCo] | sole: writing draco will highlight me too, though |
| 13:11.41 | Sole | hokay |
| 13:11.54 | Sole | it wont stop most people from taking them |
| 13:12.00 | Sole | you just cant buy em over the counter anymore |
| 13:12.02 | grzesieq | would blessing of protection prevent the damage from hydross spawns? |
| 13:12.08 | [dRaCo] | nope |
| 13:12.08 | Sole | which just forces them underground |
| 13:12.14 | [dRaCo] | it's elemental damage afaik |
| 13:12.27 | Sole | and if it goes underground it means more people will just buy E since its all illegal anyway |
| 13:12.27 | Wobin_ | [dRaCo]: it makes tab nick completion hard though |
| 13:12.31 | Sole | silly move by the government |
| 13:12.56 | Sole | party pills dont kill people, Ex can kill |
| 13:13.03 | Sole | thats my story of the day |
| 13:13.24 | Wobin_ | This news announcement brought to you by the letter "E" |
| 13:14.09 | Sole | by the way, Im not a druggie |
| 13:16.31 | Azurewrath | I'm not an addict. I'm not, I'm not. Can I get some more coffee? |
| 13:16.32 | Health | ofc you are Sole |
| 13:16.34 | Health | DRUGGIE |
| 13:17.05 | Sole | IM NOT ADDICTED TO CRACK! |
| 13:17.15 | Wobin_ | You can quit any time you want |
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| 13:17.37 | Sole | but crack is my bestest friend in the whole wide world |
| 13:17.55 | Wobin_ | It's the only one that still loves you when you're on a downer |
| 13:18.15 | Sole | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jHc9yhf22vk |
| 13:18.29 | Azurewrath | try Beer. |
| 13:18.58 | Health | wtf |
| 13:19.04 | Health | Is he human? |
| 13:19.26 | Health | His clothes could fit 4 people. |
| 13:19.37 | Sole | haha |
| 13:19.40 | Sole | I love lavell |
| 13:19.42 | Sole | hes great |
| 13:19.54 | Health | He'll die young. |
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| 13:20.18 | Health | Poor heard to keep up with that monster. |
| 13:20.22 | Health | heart* |
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| 13:21.23 | Wobin_ | The occasional cough as his lungs can't keep up with the rest of his body is interesting =P |
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| 13:21.50 | Sole | yeah its sad |
| 13:21.53 | Sole | hes bloating really quick |
| 13:22.01 | Sole | he was fat but reasonably a couple years back |
| 13:22.09 | Sole | its sad because hes funny :( |
| 13:22.41 | Wobin_ | I offer this in rebuttal |
| 13:22.42 | Wobin_ | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z1RfSnGZKic |
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| 13:23.28 | Wobin_ | <3 that man |
| 13:23.59 | Wobin_ | only he could pull off doing a PSA in short short camo shorts |
| 13:24.40 | Health | http://youtube.com/watch?v=DDSyeDTXKZI - Swedish! |
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| 13:26.48 | Wobin_ | Health: I think it loses something in lack of translation |
| 13:26.57 | Health | It might.. yeah. |
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| 13:30.21 | Wobin_ | ~x de en sag ich nicht |
| 13:30.33 | Wobin_ | woah, deep |
| 13:31.35 | Mikk | "i won't say" |
| 13:31.51 | Mikk | ~x de en das sag ich nicht |
| 13:32.03 | Mikk | err |
| 13:32.18 | ilifin | hahha |
| 13:32.21 | Mikk | ~x de en das sag ich nicht |
| 13:32.38 | Wobin_ | rofl |
| 13:32.44 | Mikk | idiot translator :P |
| 13:32.53 | Josh_Borke | ~x de en ich sag das nicht |
| 13:32.55 | Wobin_ | Those germans can pack a lot of meaning into one phrase =) |
| 13:33.08 | Josh_Borke | ~x de en ich kann das nicht sagen |
| 13:33.23 | Mikk | ~x de en ich will das nicht sagen |
| 13:33.27 | Josh_Borke | danget! |
| 13:33.38 | Josh_Borke | i almost beat you |
| 13:33.49 | Josh_Borke | ~x de en ich will das night sagen |
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| 13:33.56 | Mikk | lol |
| 13:33.56 | Josh_Borke | lol, woops |
| 13:33.59 | Mikk | ~x de en ich will das nicht sagen |
| 13:34.09 | Mikk | well, ok |
| 13:34.11 | Josh_Borke | ~x de en ich woll das nicht sagen |
| 13:34.20 | Josh_Borke | woll is not right |
| 13:34.25 | Mikk | wollen |
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| 13:34.31 | Josh_Borke | yea |
| 13:34.34 | Josh_Borke | been too long :-( |
| 13:34.39 | Mikk | ~x de en ich wollen das nicht sagen |
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| 13:34.40 | Mikk | no kidding |
| 13:34.41 | Kirkburn|sleep | I see you are indulging in important matters at the moment :) |
| 13:34.50 | Mikk | i'm not even sure that's correct german |
| 13:34.51 | Josh_Borke | ~x de en ich wollen das nicht sagen |
| 13:34.54 | Josh_Borke | it's not |
| 13:34.57 | Mikk | but this is about fooling the translator isn't it :P |
| 13:34.58 | Mikk | YAY |
| 13:34.59 | Kirkburn|sleep | Sure, sure, blame the Germans |
| 13:35.16 | Mikk | seriously, there's got to be a way to just get "will not" |
| 13:35.29 | Mikk | ANWAY |
| 13:35.37 | Kirkburn|sleep | Wouldn't it be easier to ask AltaVista directly? :P |
| 13:35.40 | Mikk | "sag ich nicht" is roughly "won't say" |
| 13:35.50 | Mikk | so he won't tell us his nick |
| 13:35.51 | Kirkburn|sleep | ~x en de will not |
| 13:36.01 | Kirkburn|sleep | >_> |
| 13:36.08 | Josh_Borke | ~x de en ich werd das nicht sagen |
| 13:36.10 | Mikk | ~x en de i won't say |
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| 13:36.29 | Mikk | ~x de en ich sage nicht |
| 13:36.37 | [dRaCo] | lol |
| 13:36.46 | Hjalte | Haha. Purl is not ver good at german. |
| 13:36.46 | [dRaCo] | altavista... sucks. |
| 13:36.53 | Hjalte | very* |
| 13:37.13 | Mok | ~x de en ich bin mike |
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| 13:38.12 | [dRaCo] | are u just fooling around or are you really trying to translate smth? |
| 13:38.28 | Mikk | we wanted to translate "sag ich nicht" |
| 13:38.34 | Mikk | babelfish is being dumb |
| 13:39.19 | Mikk | Anyway... so... graphics and embedded libs |
| 13:39.24 | [dRaCo] | I'd prolly translate that to "I wont say that" |
| 13:39.25 | Dustwhisper | anyone here experienced the daily bombing quests not working? |
| 13:39.26 | Mikk | Is basically damn hard to do with help from the embedding addon |
| 13:39.31 | Dustwhisper | you bomb but dont get the target |
| 13:39.43 | Mikk | [dRaCo]: aye, same. but babelfish disagrees =) |
| 13:39.48 | Kalman| | Dustwhisper: Move the reticle around; does it appear in other locations, just not directly where you want to bomb? |
| 13:40.04 | Chompers | make sure you're not in a raid Dustwhisper |
| 13:40.15 | [dRaCo] | broken hitzones, try aiming for the border, Dustwhisper |
| 13:40.24 | zentho1 | anyone know the url to the WoW offline simulator/test environment? |
| 13:40.30 | [dRaCo] | border's the wrong word, but u get my point ;) |
| 13:40.40 | Mikk | zentho1: it doesn't work atm |
| 13:40.43 | zentho1 | k |
| 13:40.44 | Mikk | zentho1: not updated for 2.x |
| 13:40.54 | Mikk | but it's http://www.wowwiki.com/WoWBench |
| 13:41.07 | clad|away | I _tried_ to get it working in Lua 5.1 |
| 13:41.13 | clad|away | but then promptly stabbed myself in the face |
| 13:41.20 | Kirkburn|sleep | Wow, it's nearly a year old now |
| 13:41.27 | clad|away | happy birthday to you! |
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| 13:41.31 | Josh_Borke | mikk: get to work |
| 13:41.46 | Mikk | clad|away: yer, i didn't use pairs() anywhere to begin with... ouch |
| 13:42.05 | Mikk | i'm working with it whenever i'm in a masochistic mood |
| 13:42.05 | Josh_Borke | mikk: geeze, awful coding practice |
| 13:42.19 | Kirkburn|sleep | In fact, WoWBench passed it's birthday a few weeks ago. Happy Birthday WoWBench! |
| 13:42.22 | Mikk | Josh_Borke: well bluh, i followed blizz coding practices. my bad :P |
| 13:42.25 | Josh_Borke | ~lart mikk |
| 13:42.25 | purl | stabs mikk |
| 13:42.55 | Kirkburn|sleep | ~stab Josh_Borke |
| 13:42.56 | purl | ACTION runs at Josh_Borke with an origami Swiss Army knife, and inflicts a nasty paper cut. |
| 13:43.12 | Josh_Borke | purl, save me |
| 13:43.12 | purl | ACTION runs into a burning building and saves josh_borke from certain death. Is that enough? |
| 13:43.17 | Roartindon | Mikk: Is there anything in dewdrop that allows me to format text as its typed? (from an aceoptions table) |
| 13:43.47 | Mikk | you mean in a text editbox? |
| 13:43.55 | Roartindon | Mikk: Sorry, yes, in a text editbox |
| 13:44.05 | Mikk | no, not _AS_ it is being typed. you can only reformat when the user hits enter |
| 13:44.10 | Fritti | meh. does anybody still use Usenet for something *else* than warez |
| 13:44.29 | Mikk | Roartindon: though i know it's been done in a dewdrop in some addon. must be some godawful hack. |
| 13:44.40 | Roartindon | Mikk: hmm.. know which addon? |
| 13:44.50 | Mikk | think it's garbagefu |
| 13:45.14 | Mikk | yeah it's garbagefu |
| 13:45.19 | Roartindon | Mikk: Reason I ask is that Aloft/Assessment use tags, and I syntax highlight the tags.. would be kind of cool to see it update colors as its editing, if it isn't too awful a hack :) |
| 13:45.46 | Mikk | hrm |
| 13:45.53 | Mikk | still won't work in waterfall |
| 13:46.01 | Azurewrath | Fritti: i guess all the guys posting outside of alt.binaries.* ;p |
| 13:46.13 | Mikk | my isp doesn't feed alt.binaries :< |
| 13:46.44 | Azurewrath | no isp does i guess.. |
| 13:47.34 | Chompers | its one big forum, you don't have to use it for warez |
| 13:47.46 | Roartindon | Chompers: Yeah, you can use it for porn :P |
| 13:47.53 | Mikk | ^ |
| 13:49.21 | Mikk | Ok, off the top of your head, can you think of anything in the standard blizz graphics that'll work for a "Move", "Copy" and "Link" cursor when dragging stuff? |
| 13:49.23 | Fritti | we've got this one user that insists upon reading usenet with a terminal based client |
| 13:49.26 | Mikk | Like in windows |
| 13:49.28 | Fritti | only all clients I can find are ancient |
| 13:49.39 | Fritti | like trn-from-1994 ancient |
| 13:49.44 | clad|away | trn ftw |
| 13:49.58 | Mikk | 94? that's recent :P |
| 13:50.14 | Josh_Borke | mikk: link? |
| 13:50.23 | Mikk | Josh_Borke: shortcut |
| 13:50.27 | Fritti | yeah well, I'd rather not have programs with network access from 1994 on our machines. buffer overflows were an unknown concept back then, practically speaking. |
| 13:50.33 | Josh_Borke | mikk: use the circular thing |
| 13:50.35 | Moltarain | Fritti: tell him to use linux and irssi ,) |
| 13:50.55 | Mikk | irssi didnt' read usenet news last i checked |
| 13:50.59 | Fritti | indeed |
| 13:51.04 | Fritti | pine does but sucks at it |
| 13:51.16 | Fritti | and has one of the worst security tracks ever besides |
| 13:51.18 | clad|away | pine's not that bad |
| 13:51.21 | clad|away | but security is horrible |
| 13:51.22 | clad|away | use emacs |
| 13:51.27 | clad|away | it can do everything =) |
| 13:51.27 | Mikk | haha |
| 13:51.32 | Fritti | he |
| 13:51.37 | clad|away | (sad, but true) |
| 13:51.37 | Josh_Borke | it burnt my toast once |
| 13:51.39 | Josh_Borke | never used it since |
| 13:51.44 | Mikk | tell said user to go screw himself? |
| 13:51.46 | clad|away | dired-mode still rules my world |
| 13:51.51 | Mikk | or force him to use crapapps in a sandbox? |
| 13:51.53 | clad|away | who needs to mass rename when you have dired |
| 13:51.59 | Fritti | Mikk: I wish I could... yoys of being a desktop sysadmin :) |
| 13:52.36 | Mikk | you need to hang out on bofhnet more :P |
| 13:52.37 | Mikk | oups |
| 13:52.38 | Fritti | clad|away: oh a friend of mine wrote a script that can do that using vi, or perl, or any editor basically. I agree, that rocks. |
| 13:52.41 | Mikk | pardon |
| 13:52.42 | Mikk | the-network-that-doesnt-exist |
| 13:52.52 | Fritti | you need a cluebat to enter? ;-D |
| 13:52.52 | CIA-22 | 03gagorian * r42616 10DrDamage/DrDamage.lua: |
| 13:52.52 | CIA-22 | DrDamage: |
| 13:52.52 | CIA-22 | - Allows to pass a modifier table to the damage calculation engine so outside addons can compare modified values |
| 13:52.52 | CIA-22 | - This should enable support for item comparison via tooltip scanning, if anyone is interested in making such an addon/module |
| 13:53.27 | Morghus | Gagorian: Any intention of adding melee-support? :) |
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| 13:53.54 | Mikk | So. If I end up going "shit, i need graphics in this embeddable lib", and require an init call with a file path to where the lib actually lives, how much will people hate me? |
| 13:54.15 | Gagorian | Morghus: Perhaps, but I'd need someone to exploit in testing and melee theorycraft. |
| 13:54.24 | Fritti | clad|away: http://www.wizeazz.nl/ward/scripts/explain/mvwrap.shtml |
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| 13:56.51 | Morghus | Gagorian: The EJ forums has some pretty comprehensive coverage of most theorycraft, might it be a good idea to start there, and additionally/alternatively ask for help? =) |
| 13:58.10 | Morghus | That's odd, Baggins isn't loading certain PT3 Modules Oo Did something happen overnight? =P |
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| 13:58.38 | Gagorian | Morghus: Well, the point is that I don't really have the time to research myself, even if there are good resources. |
| 13:58.48 | Gagorian | So, I'd need someone to volunteer to be my bitch for a week |
| 13:58.54 | Kalman| | Gagorian: I can probably answer a good portion of your questions. |
| 13:59.14 | Gagorian | Kalman|: First. Take of your clothes |
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| 13:59.47 | Morghus | Gagorian: Ah, I see. Putting up a request for some help on forums would probably cover it quite well. I'm not savvy enough to help out I'm afraid |
| 14:00.08 | Kalman| | Gagorian: Who said I'm wearing any? :p |
| 14:00.17 | Gagorian | Kalman|: Perfect. Now just need a collar and a chain |
| 14:00.29 | Gagorian | Kalman|: What class do you play? |
| 14:00.45 | Morghus | Nargiddley hiding out in this channel by any chance? |
| 14:00.54 | Kalman| | Gagorian: Spriest now, but I theorycrafted rogues for a long, long time. |
| 14:01.06 | Gagorian | Closest thing I have to a melee is a level 19 rogue :P |
| 14:02.10 | Josh_Borke | mikk: to answer your question: tons |
| 14:02.16 | Josh_Borke | mikk: what is your embeddable lib? |
| 14:02.37 | krka | anyone know how to extract player facing? |
| 14:02.50 | Gagorian | Well.. I have one hour time on my hands now |
| 14:02.52 | Josh_Borke | mikk: and look at some stuff ckknight did with PitBull/Cartographer. Pretty sure he does some sort of trick to determine the current execution path |
| 14:02.54 | Gagorian | I could start doing something |
| 14:03.02 | Josh_Borke | krka: WhichWayAmIFacing() |
| 14:03.35 | Kalman| | Gagorian: I'm at work, so I have lots of free time on my hands. Ask away. :) |
| 14:03.54 | krka | gee thanks Josh_Borke |
| 14:04.00 | krka | where is that function defined? |
| 14:04.00 | Gagorian | Need to get the core done first. One sec :P |
| 14:05.31 | Josh_Borke | krka: have you looked inside astrolabe or TomTom? I bet there could be something useful there. |
| 14:06.01 | mitch0 | what exactly is this FrameStrata thing? |
| 14:06.30 | krka | yeah, looked a bit |
| 14:07.21 | Morghus | Gagorian: What kind of numbers are you looking for in specific? |
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| 14:07.58 | krka | i cant figure out how to get the facing of the minimap arrow |
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| 14:09.24 | Mikk | krka: check gpslib |
| 14:09.33 | Mikk | or cartographer_waypoints |
| 14:09.44 | Josh_Borke | krka: did you look at UpdateMinimapIconPositions in Astrolabe.lua? |
| 14:10.17 | CIA-22 | 03roartindon * r42617 10TagCompiler-1.0/TagCompiler-1.0/TagCompiler-1.0.lua: |
| 14:10.17 | CIA-22 | TagCompiler-1.0 |
| 14:10.17 | CIA-22 | - Down to 0 table growth using :Evaluate - all tables are recycled as appropriate. |
| 14:10.48 | krka | Josh_Borke: yeah... not sure where it uses the players current facing |
| 14:11.56 | Gagorian | Morghus: I don't know yet, I started 2 minutes ago :P |
| 14:12.11 | Gagorian | Kalman|: What abilities with weapon damage aren't normalized? |
| 14:12.42 | krka | ah... i need to find the player model |
| 14:13.08 | mitch0 | what's the lua equivalent of <Layer>? |
| 14:13.10 | Josh_Borke | MinimapCompassRing:GetFacing(), you're right, it doesn't |
| 14:13.16 | [dRaCo] | stormstrike, windfury, hemor |
| 14:13.54 | [dRaCo] | maybe some more, but those definitly |
| 14:14.04 | Tornhoof | ss and wf are certainly not normalized |
| 14:14.12 | [dRaCo] | yeah |
| 14:14.15 | Tornhoof | but i'll guess wf will be soon |
| 14:14.17 | Mikk | mitch0: SetDrawLayer or sth? |
| 14:14.28 | mitch0 | or in other words, what kind of frames do I need to do <Frame><Layer><Texture/></Layer></Frame> ? |
| 14:14.39 | [dRaCo] | yeah, more enhancement nerfs :/ |
| 14:14.45 | Mikk | You don't need an explicit layer declaration |
| 14:14.53 | Mikk | You just create a texture in a frame |
| 14:14.55 | Tornhoof | yeh |
| 14:14.56 | mitch0 | so just add the texture? |
| 14:14.57 | Mikk | Then you can fiddle its drawlayer if you like |
| 14:14.58 | mitch0 | nice |
| 14:15.01 | Gagorian | So, normalization is the standard then? |
| 14:15.05 | Mikk | tx = myframe:CreateTexture() |
| 14:15.16 | [dRaCo] | yeah, Gagorian |
| 14:15.22 | mitch0 | mikk: thanks |
| 14:15.30 | Mikk | mitch0: it's really only a setting. it's not an object like xml leads you to believe |
| 14:16.26 | Kalman| | Gagorian: SS, WF, Hemo, Ghostly Strike iirc. |
| 14:16.50 | Cryect | <Mikk> krka: check gpslib |
| 14:16.59 | Cryect | Its not actually in gpslib, but there is one in dungeon crawler for that |
| 14:17.08 | Cryect | I should add that to gpslib though I guess |
| 14:17.11 | Kalman| | Riposte also. |
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| 14:17.58 | Morghus | I had the impression only Hemo was not normalized |
| 14:18.02 | Morghus | I'll go check |
| 14:18.13 | Kalman| | Actually, easier to just give the list of normalized strikes: http://thottbot.com/?e=Normalized%20Weapon%20Damage%20%2B |
| 14:18.23 | Saladin | hmm, anyone got a version of Backgroundio lying around? :p |
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| 14:20.59 | pb_ee1|eat | I nearly finished the roster for an official release: http://roster.lords-zodiac.com/ |
| 14:21.15 | pb_ee1|eat | It will be first release in French, and if it works, I'll translate it in English ;) |
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| 14:21.38 | ccKep | << doesn't understand a single word on that page xD |
| 14:21.45 | pb_ee1|eat | Hehe :) |
| 14:21.56 | pb_ee1|eat | Don't bother and click on "artisants" or "personnages" at the top of the page |
| 14:22.10 | pb_ee1|eat | personnages means characters / artisanats means tradeskills |
| 14:22.57 | Proph | any website i can update Tattle's .lua file - last update is 6/7/07 for my battlegroup11.... |
| 14:23.22 | pb_ee1 | ccKep: Try looking at Lona |
| 14:23.54 | ccKep | Temps de jeu = /played ? |
| 14:23.59 | pb_ee1 | Right |
| 14:24.14 | ccKep | I'd be somewhere near the top there I guess xD |
| 14:24.34 | pb_ee1 | Hehe we do not play _so_ much in our guild, and there are not all the characters here ;) |
| 14:24.49 | pb_ee1 | we've got 400+ characters in the guild ans more than 200 distinct accounts |
| 14:24.56 | pb_ee1 | s/ans/and/ |
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| 14:25.28 | ccKep | 42 days /played on my new shaman main |
| 14:25.33 | pb_ee1 | nice ;) |
| 14:25.34 | ccKep | 254d on my old warlock main *shrug* |
| 14:26.11 | Mikk | ccKep: eek |
| 14:26.13 | pb_ee1 | the main objective of this roster is to know WHO can make one craft and to display alts that just store some items |
| 14:26.19 | pb_ee1 | ccKep: oO |
| 14:26.21 | Mikk | ccKep: not very many other chars i hope? |
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| 14:26.34 | ccKep | a 61 hunter, dunno how many playtime it has... maybe 25 days |
| 14:26.41 | Mikk | pb_ee1: craftlist2 for craft tracking |
| 14:26.47 | ccKep | but that are the only 3 40+ |
| 14:27.13 | ccKep | played my warlock pre-BC, leveled it to 70 and decided its not fun anymore.. so I rolled shaman :o |
| 14:27.15 | pb_ee1 | Mikk: not so easy to use |
| 14:27.36 | ccKep | shaman: http://armory.wow-europe.com/#character-sheet.xml?r=Blackhand&n=D%C3%A9ie |
| 14:27.37 | ccKep | warlock: http://armory.wow-europe.com/#character-sheet.xml?r=Blackhand&n=D%C3%A9ie |
| 14:27.42 | pb_ee1 | Mikk: can you do this with it? http://roster.lords-zodiac.com/tradeskills.php?trade=alchemy&s=flask |
| 14:27.44 | Mikk | you do know that it does in-guild queries, right? /g !craft blaha |
| 14:27.44 | pb_ee1 | :p |
| 14:27.53 | ravagernl | Just tried GridStatusHealer on my new 19 priest twink, damn, its so awesome |
| 14:28.10 | pb_ee1 | Mikk: Suppose that the crafter is not online ;p |
| 14:28.19 | Mikk | pb_ee1: don't tell me you play on bloodhoof-eu? |
| 14:28.22 | pb_ee1 | And anyway it's not designed for the same use ;) |
| 14:28.24 | pb_ee1 | I do |
| 14:28.29 | Mikk | lal |
| 14:28.33 | pb_ee1 | You do? :p |
| 14:28.37 | Mikk | yup |
| 14:28.40 | pb_ee1 | d'oh |
| 14:28.44 | Mikk | hehe |
| 14:29.13 | Mikk | anyway, i misunderstood. i thought you were talking about an addon. |
| 14:29.20 | Mikk | websites are obviously a different thing |
| 14:29.34 | pb_ee1 | Nope, there is obviously an addon that collects data behind |
| 14:29.43 | Mikk | of course |
| 14:29.45 | pb_ee1 | But I was fed up with CharacterProfiler so I coded my own |
| 14:30.12 | pb_ee1 | I just hope this roster will be a good alternative to the "big" other rosters that already exist |
| 14:30.19 | mitch0 | how do I convert the outline part from <FontString ... outline="NORMAL"> to .lua? |
| 14:30.40 | pb_ee1 | And you can install this one on your server, it is not binded to my server, so you do whatever you want (change the design, ...) |
| 14:30.47 | pb_ee1 | GNU/GPL |
| 14:30.55 | vhaarr | phyber: you borked bagfu |
| 14:31.06 | Bruners | is it possible to show total group/raid dps in Violation ? |
| 14:31.12 | mitch0 | ah, it's probly in SetFont flags |
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| 14:31.54 | [Liquidor] | So I've made a tiny aced addon, but wondering how I add a slash command to it..?! |
| 14:32.01 | pb_ee1 | I think I'll make a release next week in the French Community, English will come after (I still need to translate a few things) |
| 14:32.13 | Kalman| | [Liquidor]: Look at an existing Ace mod to see how it sets up slash commands. |
| 14:32.38 | pb_ee1 | Ah, and very important thing: it supports enUS and frFR at the same time. if you search "crusader" it will search for "crusader" in english AND french |
| 14:32.52 | mitch0 | try to find one that doesn't use AceConsole :) |
| 14:32.54 | pb_ee1 | And it should support other languages too, but did not test yet |
| 14:33.01 | [Liquidor] | well if I'm not mistaken all ace addons use /addon options... aight? But what if I want to type my own version of /addon ? |
| 14:33.19 | art3mis | boo frenchies! |
| 14:33.23 | art3mis | ;) |
| 14:33.28 | pb_ee1 | [Liquidor]: The author is not forced to bind a /slashcommand to his addon |
| 14:33.38 | pb_ee1 | So not *all* the addons use a /addon command |
| 14:33.44 | pb_ee1 | art3mis: :-P |
| 14:33.48 | CIA-22 | 03bayi * r42618 10beql/ (beql.lua tracker.lua): |
| 14:33.48 | CIA-22 | beql: |
| 14:33.48 | CIA-22 | - Added quest tracker mouseover events |
| 14:33.48 | CIA-22 | - Added onmouseover quest info tooltips to tracker (Active Tracker) |
| 14:33.48 | CIA-22 | - On click on a quest title opens the quest log (Active Tracker) |
| 14:33.49 | CIA-22 | - Right click a quest to remove it from tracker (Active Tracker) |
| 14:33.52 | [Liquidor] | okay okay, which lib should I read on about slash commands? |
| 14:34.02 | pb_ee1 | This is why I'm going to do an english release ;) I'm not playing on an UK server for nothing! :) |
| 14:34.12 | pb_ee1 | [Liquidor]: AceAddon |
| 14:34.27 | pb_ee1 | AceConsole* sorry |
| 14:34.31 | pb_ee1 | http://www.wowace.com/wiki/AceConsole-2.0 |
| 14:35.30 | sbu | ckknight_: wtb overheal display - and it looks strange if +0 is shown as crit ;o (heal crit at full health) |
| 14:36.07 | Proph | any website i can update Tattle's .lua file - last update is 6/7/07 for my battlegroup11.... |
| 14:37.10 | art3mis | good god i slept horribly |
| 14:37.12 | pb_ee1 | Last update should be 24/06/07 |
| 14:37.21 | pb_ee1 | Proph: http://files.wowace.com/Tattle/ |
| 14:38.01 | mitch0 | does anyone know if outline="NORMAL" is equivalent ot leaving out that option altogether? |
| 14:38.15 | mitch0 | or there are 3 modes, no outline, outline and thickoutline? |
| 14:38.53 | Proph | the battlegroup11 info is not updated tho |
| 14:39.00 | Proph | armorydata that is stored in the .lua file |
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| 14:40.03 | dRiN | Anyone know the url of the site where i can check on popular specs for certain classes? It was a datamined from armory site. |
| 14:41.16 | sbu | dRiN: google "wow armory analysis spec" :p |
| 14:42.15 | [Liquidor] | What's wrong here? http://pastey.net/70275 |
| 14:42.47 | Kalman| | You called your mod Ming, for one. :p |
| 14:42.56 | Kalman| | Oh, wait, just saw the function. |
| 14:42.57 | nevcairiel | func should be Ming.Random .. not Ming:Random() |
| 14:42.59 | CIA-22 | 03helium * r42619 10DogTag-1.0/DogTag-1.0/DogTag-1.0.lua: |
| 14:42.59 | CIA-22 | DogTag-1.0: |
| 14:42.59 | CIA-22 | - updated zhTW localization |
| 14:42.59 | CIA-22 | - please use L["Focus-target"] instead of L["Focus"] for the "focused target". they have different meaning in western and zhTW locale. thanks. |
| 14:43.02 | [Liquidor] | Ok |
| 14:43.32 | art3mis | thing.func == in same file thing:func == func in diff file |
| 14:43.35 | art3mis | i believe |
| 14:43.47 | nevcairiel | not really, no :P |
| 14:44.10 | art3mis | or is it . execute and do stuff : do a check |
| 14:44.11 | [Liquidor] | Still not getting /ming to work :/ |
| 14:44.22 | mitch0 | where can I find an example for a font selector menu? |
| 14:44.23 | Saladin | Does anyone have a working version of Backgroundio? |
| 14:45.06 | Kalman| | Ming:Random(a1,a2,...) = Ming.Random(self,a1,a2,....) iirc. |
| 14:46.49 | [Liquidor] | But what's wrong here besides () ? http://pastey.net/70275 |
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| 14:50.14 | Kalman| | [Liquidor]: Period and colon are not the same thing, is what nev was saying. |
| 14:50.36 | [Liquidor] | Tested doing each |
| 14:50.43 | CIA-22 | 03ammo * r42620 10FuBar_BagFu/BagFuLocale-enUS.lua: |
| 14:50.43 | CIA-22 | FuBar_BagFu: add missing locales because phyber didn't. |
| 14:50.43 | CIA-22 | ~slap Phyber |
| 14:50.44 | purl | ACTION slaps Phyber, keep your grubby fingers to yourself! |
| 14:51.52 | jme | haha |
| 14:52.40 | art3mis | i dont think the last entry needs a comma either |
| 14:52.47 | art3mis | but i suck at lua so...... |
| 14:53.29 | ccKep | guess it's your second argument to RegisterChatCommand |
| 14:53.39 | art3mis | it might be a good idea to look at something like autobar or sct that has slash commands |
| 14:53.44 | art3mis | and mimic ;) |
| 14:54.06 | [Liquidor] | ye well I'm so far as having the /ming registered but can't execute it -.- |
| 14:54.23 | [Liquidor] | just locks /ming, can't hit enter |
| 14:54.38 | ccKep | << never ever looked deeper into the ace api, but: |
| 14:55.05 | ccKep | your 2nd argument isn't a table like it looks in this example: http://www.wowace.com/wiki/AceConsole-2.0 |
| 14:55.28 | ccKep | so I guess there's something borked ;) |
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| 14:55.52 | art3mis | yeah look at the slash command in sct |
| 14:56.06 | [Liquidor] | ccKep, then we get back to my initial question: "How do I get my addon to execute a function just typing /addon?" |
| 14:56.09 | art3mis | dont wanna paste it here |
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| 14:56.44 | ccKep | as I said, never used the ace api (stopped programming addons a year ago or so) |
| 14:56.52 | ccKep | but try putting another pair of {} around your second argument |
| 14:58.07 | [Liquidor] | that crashed the addon |
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| 14:58.28 | [Liquidor] | ckknight_, ping |
| 14:58.47 | ccKep | I'd simply copy&paste the example, but thats just meh xD |
| 14:59.01 | [Liquidor] | What example? |
| 14:59.09 | Kalman| | The one in the link ccKep gave you. |
| 14:59.41 | [Liquidor] | But .... -.- |
| 15:00.03 | ccKep | http://www.pastey.net/70276 |
| 15:00.04 | ccKep | *shrug* |
| 15:00.11 | [Liquidor] | That still doesn't help me. There's no example showing you how to execute a function just by using the /slashcommand |
| 15:00.29 | ccKep | copy & pasted the informations from http://www.wowace.com/wiki/AceConsole-2.0 & http://www.wowace.com/wiki/AceOptions_data_table#execute |
| 15:00.42 | ccKep | dunno if it works |
| 15:02.24 | Roartindon | [Liquidor]: You want: SLASH_MING1 = "/ming" SlashCmdList["MING"] = function() Ming:Random() end |
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| 15:04.42 | [Liquidor] | Roartindon, won't help |
| 15:04.48 | phyber | [Ammo]: hehe, damn ;) |
| 15:05.00 | phyber | I had the files here, just didn't commit :p |
| 15:05.12 | Roartindon | [Liquidor]: You need to remove :RegisterChatCommand |
| 15:05.18 | Roartindon | [Liquidor]: And just use those two statements I listed above |
| 15:05.26 | [Liquidor] | I know that. |
| 15:05.48 | Roartindon | Q: "How do I get my addon to execute a function just typing /addon?" |
| 15:05.53 | Roartindon | A: SLASH_MING1 = "/ming" SlashCmdList["MING"] = function() Ming:Random() end |
| 15:06.11 | [Liquidor] | We're in #wowace for a reason. |
| 15:06.19 | Kalman| | Sometimes Ace is not the right solution. |
| 15:06.22 | vhaarr | phyber: you borked bagfu |
| 15:06.37 | vhaarr | Ace is the right solution if you like using it. |
| 15:06.38 | vhaarr | Always. |
| 15:06.53 | phyber | vhaarr: bored it with the locale stuff? |
| 15:06.55 | vhaarr | If you don't like using it, it's never the solution, it's that simple. |
| 15:06.58 | phyber | or is there something other than that. |
| 15:06.59 | vhaarr | phyber: wut |
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| 15:07.09 | Roartindon | vhaarr: Then, how would you register a slash command using ace to run a function? |
| 15:07.11 | phyber | s/bored/borked/ |
| 15:07.12 | vhaarr | phyber: I don't remember, just that it errors |
| 15:07.29 | phyber | vhaarr: ah. well, development repo, etc. may explode your cat. |
| 15:07.34 | phyber | ;) |
| 15:08.09 | vhaarr | Roartindon: self:RegisterChatCommand("/command", function() ... end) ? |
| 15:08.17 | Roartindon | vhaarr: Doesn't work, when I tried it |
| 15:08.19 | vhaarr | phyber: eh, I know, I'm just telling you so you can fix it |
| 15:08.24 | vhaarr | Roartindon: worked last time I tried it |
| 15:08.33 | [Liquidor] | vhaarr, Thank you. |
| 15:08.43 | phyber | vhaarr: I'm at work right now, but I'm sure ammo fixed it by adding the missing locales :) |
| 15:08.53 | vhaarr | phyber: okay |
| 15:09.00 | Roartindon | vhaarr: I'll try again, oRA2 is doing SlashCmdList stuff |
| 15:09.10 | Roartindon | When I saw that, I stopped trying RegisterChatCommand |
| 15:09.28 | vhaarr | yeah because I like that better for those simple chat commands |
| 15:09.35 | vhaarr | but my point is that it's only a matter of preference |
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| 15:10.11 | vhaarr | and if registering it with a function doesn't work now, you need to tell someone |
| 15:10.17 | vhaarr | so that it can be fixed :P |
| 15:10.35 | Roartindon | vhaarr: I'll try it once my server comes back alive |
| 15:10.54 | vhaarr | Roartindon: point is, I think registering a function like that assumes a few things |
| 15:11.03 | Roartindon | vhaarr: And the docs probably need to be updated that a function parameter is possible :) |
| 15:11.10 | vhaarr | like for example, I think AC20 assumes that your handler is present in the global namespace |
| 15:11.17 | Roartindon | vhaarr: (and what those assumptions are, etc) |
| 15:11.27 | vhaarr | Roartindon: right, but I don't know them all |
| 15:11.30 | vhaarr | I just know it works |
| 15:11.35 | vhaarr | or, did, some time ago |
| 15:12.12 | ccKep | wowace.com busy atm? |
| 15:12.27 | Saladin | seems very laggy indeed |
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| 15:12.36 | Saladin | The server at files.wowace.com is taking too long to respond. |
| 15:12.40 | vhaarr | Roartindon: I'll check it out in a few min |
| 15:12.41 | vhaarr | brb |
| 15:12.43 | ccKep | yay |
| 15:12.52 | Roartindon | vhaarr: Looks like it should work |
| 15:12.57 | [Liquidor] | ccKep, ye |
| 15:12.57 | Fisker- | Some persons are incredible |
| 15:12.57 | Fisker- | I was taking the bus |
| 15:13.03 | Fisker- | and in the back there was 3 grocery bags |
| 15:13.07 | Fisker- | that someone had forgot |
| 15:13.15 | Fisker- | 3 _BAGS_, wtf is wrong with you? |
| 15:14.59 | dodgizzla | Maybe promotion action? :D |
| 15:15.17 | vhaarr | Roartindon: I was right, your handler must be present in the global scope |
| 15:15.19 | vhaarr | but |
| 15:15.22 | vhaarr | I suspect that's oldschool |
| 15:15.30 | vhaarr | it could be removed now with the new scope handling |
| 15:15.59 | vhaarr | I think |
| 15:16.28 | [Ammo] | the only reason I used the SlashCmdList stuff in oRA2 because it was easier to unregister the slashcommand |
| 15:16.57 | ccKep | http://www.wowace.com/trac/browser/trunk/oRA2/Core.lua?rev=42588&order=name#L335 |
| 15:16.59 | ccKep | ^SlashCmdList? |
| 15:17.22 | [Ammo] | and AceConsole provides no unregister |
| 15:17.25 | vhaarr | ccKep: line 200-240 or so |
| 15:17.38 | ccKep | aye |
| 15:17.43 | ccKep | yaya |
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| 15:19.49 | [Ammo] | so it's not that I didn't want to use RegisterChatCommand, I simply could not due to lack of Unregister :) |
| 15:20.18 | [Ammo] | asked about it, no-one deemed it necessary, so left it at that |
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| 15:28.53 | CIA-22 | 03roartindon * r42621 10TagCompiler-1.0/TagCompiler-1.0/TagCompiler-1.0.lua: |
| 15:28.53 | CIA-22 | TagCompiler-1.0.lua |
| 15:28.53 | CIA-22 | - Uses :argCheck |
| 15:29.15 | sbu | Pheredhel: hmm ping |
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| 15:36.41 | [Liquidor] | What's wrong with this one then? :( http://www.pastey.net/70278 |
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| 15:38.14 | Roartindon_ | missing "name" for channel and prefix |
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| 15:40.45 | sbu | mhh |
| 15:40.53 | sbu | self:Print() prints to 'default' chat window, right? |
| 15:41.11 | sbu | is it possible to print to another window? |
| 15:41.49 | ccKep | http://www.wowace.com/wiki/AceConsole-2.0 <<< maybe CustomPrint |
| 15:41.52 | ccKep | but dunno |
| 15:42.50 | sbu | Pheredhel: wtb CustomPrint() in CCBreaker to specify chatwindow :o |
| 15:43.34 | mitch0 | could someone take a look at this xml -> lua conversion? I'm complete n00b in it, don't know if I got it right: http://ace.pastey.net/70280 |
| 15:43.36 | Moltarain | is there any good way to force frames to stay within the window, and also dock to say upper left corner/middle left or lower left. |
| 15:44.38 | ccKep | sbu: maybe local f=DEFAULT_CHAT_FRAME DEFAULT_CHAT_FRAME = ChatFrame2 self:Print(..) DEFAULT_CHAT_FRAME = f as some workaround :O |
| 15:45.38 | Roartindon_ | sbu: Just try self:CustomPrint(ChatFrame3, "text") |
| 15:45.59 | CIA-22 | 03bayi * r42622 10beql/ (beql.lua localization.lua tooltip.lua): beql: - some Fubar Plugin love.. |
| 15:46.00 | Roartindon_ | actually, that won't work |
| 15:46.22 | Roartindon_ | self:CustomPrint(1, 1, 1, ChatFrame3, 5, " ", "text") |
| 15:47.54 | Josh_Borke | Moltarain: what window? |
| 15:48.29 | durcyn | sbu: i just sed DEFAULT_CHAT_FRAME to ChatFrame2 in my local copy of Ace2 |
| 15:48.31 | Roartindon_ | sbu: actually. |
| 15:48.37 | Moltarain | "WoW" like if im running 1440x900 all frames should stay inside that |
| 15:48.37 | Roartindon_ | sbu: do this: |
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| 15:48.46 | Roartindon_ | self.printFrame = ChatFrame2 |
| 15:48.54 | Roartindon_ | Then after that, all self:Print() for your addon goes to ChatFrame2 |
| 15:49.32 | Josh_Borke | Moltarain: you can do: frame:SetClampedToScreen(true) |
| 15:49.53 | ccKep | isn't printFrame only used in CustomPrint? |
| 15:50.03 | Moltarain | ok, ill look at that |
| 15:50.12 | CIA-22 | 03roartindon * r42623 10Assessment/Modules/BarInterface.lua: Assessment: Trying RegisterChatCommand instead of SlashCmdList |
| 15:50.33 | Roartindon_ | ccKep: Try it and see; I can't test atm since my server is in maintenance |
| 15:50.40 | CIA-22 | 03bayi * r42624 10beql/tracker.lua: beql: - Tracker: Only show inspect cursor on quest titles |
| 15:50.44 | Roartindon_ | ccKep: Reading the sourcecode, it looks like it should work |
| 15:50.44 | ccKep | just looked at AceConsole-2.0.lua ;) |
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| 15:51.13 | Roartindon_ | ccKep: Right, iine 469 passes nil into CustomPrint for the frame... then all the calls to local function print() are done with nil or self.printFrame |
| 15:51.17 | ccKep | ah, AceConsole:Print just calls AceConsole:CustomPrint |
| 15:51.28 | ccKep | yeha, just saw that |
| 15:52.18 | CIA-22 | 03mitchell * r42625 10RangeDisplay/ (5 files): RangeDisplay: embeds.xml, toc cleanup, moving frame creation to lua, waterfall support. probably horribly broken |
| 15:52.44 | ccKep | any 2.1.2 <-> 0.1.3 diffs out yet? :o |
| 15:53.11 | vhaarr | there's no diff |
| 15:53.24 | mitch0 | seeya from home. I'll have lots of questions probably when I see all the errors I just created :) |
| 15:53.38 | ccKep | * Fixed a crash triggered by many unit frame AddOns. <<< like to know what they changed ^.^ |
| 15:53.40 | Roartindon_ | mitch0: Wait fro the r42626 revert commit :P |
| 15:53.43 | vhaarr | ccKep: nothing |
| 15:53.52 | ccKep | doh |
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| 15:54.10 | mitch0 | roartidon: no wai! I'll hack it till it works ;) |
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| 16:04.46 | Pheredhel | sbu: added to todo list for next version |
| 16:05.54 | sbu | okay :) |
| 16:06.34 | Athou | Roartindon_: there's something strange at line 1186 in tagcompiler |
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| 16:07.04 | Roartindon_ | Athou: let me see |
| 16:07.26 | Roartindon_ | Athou: oh wtf... |
| 16:07.27 | Kaelten | g'morning |
| 16:07.40 | Roartindon_ | Athou: let me fix it |
| 16:09.34 | Athou | :D |
| 16:10.08 | CIA-22 | 03roartindon * r42626 10TagCompiler-1.0/TagCompiler-1.0/TagCompiler-1.0.lua: |
| 16:10.08 | CIA-22 | TagCompiler-1.0 |
| 16:10.08 | CIA-22 | - Removed some stray stuff.. nfi how it got there. |
| 16:10.21 | Roartindon_ | Athou: Give that a whirl, my server is down, so blind coding |
| 16:10.46 | Roartindon_ | Athou: Not making any huge changes, and that paste of random text in the middle.. no recollection of where that might have been from either :) |
| 16:11.42 | Saroz | [Ammo], what did you do with oRAOCoolDown.db.profile.cooldowns |
| 16:11.54 | Athou | You have no errors, yay! |
| 16:11.55 | Athou | :) |
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| 16:12.06 | [Ammo] | Saroz: I nuked it into oblivion |
| 16:12.13 | Saroz | [Ammo], give it back man |
| 16:12.19 | [Ammo] | Saroz: no |
| 16:12.30 | Saroz | [Ammo], need to access the list of running cooldowns |
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| 16:12.40 | [Ammo] | oh that's possible |
| 16:13.05 | [Ammo] | if oRA:HasModule("OptionalCooldown") then oRA:GetModule("OptionalCooldown").db.profile.cooldowns .... etc |
| 16:13.14 | Saroz | ty :) |
| 16:13.15 | [Ammo] | you could have figured that out by reading the damn code yourself btw |
| 16:13.20 | Saroz | man |
| 16:13.25 | [Ammo] | and the modulecore wiki |
| 16:13.28 | Saroz | you break it you do the support |
| 16:13.32 | Antiarc|Work | Morning folks |
| 16:13.38 | ccKep | hya |
| 16:13.57 | [Ammo] | I don't support 3rd party addons on oRA2 |
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| 16:14.08 | [Ammo] | so if you depend on stuff, your fault |
| 16:14.10 | Saroz | you did, you just didn't know about it |
| 16:14.25 | [Ammo] | I do not support it |
| 16:14.30 | [Ammo] | if it breaks, you fix it |
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| 16:17.31 | vhaarr | I thought I nuked it |
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| 16:18.44 | [Ammo] | well it got nuked :p |
| 16:19.01 | [Ammo] | and I think I converted the optional modules to use local mod |
| 16:19.02 | [Ammo] | but shrug |
| 16:19.04 | vhaarr | no, I did |
| 16:19.12 | [Ammo] | then I did the participant ones oh yeah |
| 16:19.23 | [Ammo] | anyway, gone = gone |
| 16:19.30 | vhaarr | credit = credit |
| 16:19.34 | vhaarr | ^^ |
| 16:21.09 | [Ammo] | ok you get credit for making Saroz life even more miserable than it already was |
| 16:21.10 | [Ammo] | :) |
| 16:21.18 | vhaarr | yay |
| 16:22.00 | Saroz | ! |
| 16:22.25 | CIA-22 | 03bayi * r42627 10beql/ (beql.lua localization.lua options.lua tracker.lua): |
| 16:22.25 | CIA-22 | beql: |
| 16:22.25 | CIA-22 | - Compatibility fixes |
| 16:22.25 | CIA-22 | - Added/replaced all notes to disabled functions indicating which addon disabled them |
| 16:22.25 | CIA-22 | - Added mobmap compatibility function -> disable quest markers, now mobmap works 100% with beql |
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| 16:24.13 | Saroz | vhaarr, since you are in such a good mood, go readd http://wowace.com/trac/changeset/37143 |
| 16:24.37 | vhaarr | what about it? :P |
| 16:25.15 | Saroz | revert the revert :) |
| 16:25.45 | Antiarc|Work | Morning |
| 16:25.59 | [Ammo] | useless and crappy |
| 16:26.08 | [Ammo] | it even shows a hint in the commit on what to use |
| 16:26.16 | Saroz | be nice to vhaarr |
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| 16:33.34 | Saroz | [Ammo], ok another thing, would it be possible to get access to "ressers" in ressurection.lua, so I can see who is getting ressed |
| 16:33.54 | [Ammo] | you could badabum! register the event! |
| 16:34.02 | Saroz | yaya |
| 16:34.04 | [Ammo] | but you could have found that out reading the code! |
| 16:34.09 | Saroz | but then I would have to maintain my own list |
| 16:34.10 | Saroz | I did |
| 16:34.37 | Saroz | it would be clever is I could just check if someone was getting ressed, by anyone. |
| 16:34.56 | [Ammo] | maintain your own list |
| 16:36.10 | Saroz | *sigh* |
| 16:36.30 | ScoTTie | for Omen to sync back to KTM, do you need the ThreatToKTM lib installed ? |
| 16:36.38 | Punkie` | Saroz: Next time save all your requests for when Ammo is horny |
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| 16:36.46 | [Ammo] | ScoTTie: you can toggle a setting in Omen |
| 16:36.52 | [Ammo] | 'broadcast to KTM' |
| 16:37.01 | Saroz | Punkie`, do I get a newsletter or something? |
| 16:37.01 | [Ammo] | Punkie`: won't matter, this ain't changing |
| 16:37.05 | Punkie` | hehe |
| 16:37.08 | ScoTTie | ok |
| 16:37.14 | Punkie` | btw, Kenco has disabled that in 20+ KTM |
| 16:37.20 | Punkie` | because it 'poisons' his addon |
| 16:37.27 | ScoTTie | lame |
| 16:37.27 | Saroz | poison! |
| 16:37.43 | ScoTTie | he sounds like a douche |
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| 16:37.45 | Chompers | is there an [Ammo] Horn'o'meter? |
| 16:37.48 | Saroz | I wish |
| 16:37.50 | Chompers | maybe he can write one |
| 16:37.51 | CIA-22 | 03saroz * r42628 10sRaidFrames/sRaidFrames.lua: |
| 16:37.51 | CIA-22 | sRaidFrames: |
| 16:37.51 | CIA-22 | - Fix oRA support |
| 16:37.51 | CIA-22 | - Add oRA Divine Intervention support |
| 16:37.51 | CIA-22 | - Add Divine Intervention status |
| 16:38.53 | [Ammo] | Punkie`: he disabled it in the most silly way ever but hey, who cares |
| 16:39.14 | ScoTTie | are you going to bother to work around it ? |
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| 16:39.35 | ScoTTie | seems like blocking omen will only make more people switch |
| 16:39.36 | ScoTTie | and faster |
| 16:39.45 | ScoTTie | omen=ThreatLib |
| 16:40.08 | [Ammo] | he's blocking threatlib |
| 16:40.15 | Saroz | [Ammo], ok this is not a request... after reloadui (while in raid) the cooldown monitor doesnt reappear, you have to toggle it in the settings |
| 16:40.18 | [Ammo] | thus blocking Pitbull, Violation, Aloft etc |
| 16:40.19 | Chompers | so many new people asking about Omen/Threat recently |
| 16:40.24 | Chompers | what's sparked it all off? |
| 16:40.25 | Azurewrath | i forced my guild to replace KTM with Threat-1.0/Omen.. most were flaming a bit, but now most are happy <3 |
| 16:40.32 | [Ammo] | Saroz: hmm, that's weird, guess that got broken somewhere int he process |
| 16:40.56 | ScoTTie | how is he blocking them ? |
| 16:41.06 | Chompers | he's activly blocking it now? i thought he was only blocking the 'reporting as 19.18' thing? |
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| 16:42.13 | Saroz | my threat-1.0 is giving me a nil error :p |
| 16:42.27 | Kaelten | Chompers All the publicity on curse |
| 16:42.29 | [Ammo] | he's blocking anyone sending a KTM message that also sends Thr addon messages |
| 16:42.39 | Saroz | lol |
| 16:42.46 | [Ammo] | so anyone using pitbull + KTM is fuxored |
| 16:42.50 | Chompers | what a fucking moron |
| 16:43.02 | Saroz | good thing I don't use ktm :p |
| 16:43.45 | ScoTTie | well i guess my guilds changing to Omen sooner than i intended ;p |
| 16:44.15 | Kaelten | lol |
| 16:44.15 | nevcairiel | i still think something like threat shouldnt be bundled with a UF .. |
| 16:44.15 | nevcairiel | but thats just me |
| 16:44.29 | Kaelten | I don't think he's actually blacklisting the message itself yet is he? |
| 16:44.34 | Kaelten | he just lies on the version check |
| 16:44.39 | [Ammo] | might be |
| 16:44.52 | kenlyric | that's why it's a lib. |
| 16:44.52 | [Ammo] | but it'll mark those people to their raid leaders as not using KTM |
| 16:44.57 | Saroz | hopefully he prints an error, or ckknight is gonna get flooded :p |
| 16:44.58 | hypetech | ya |
| 16:45.02 | hypetech | and then they get bitched at |
| 16:45.12 | [Ammo] | I agree with nevcairiel |
| 16:45.21 | [Ammo] | it's actually bundled in DogTag though |
| 16:45.55 | Kaelten | I'd suggest having threat output a message in a KTM raid saying "Your GM will be confused as KTM won't show you as a KTM user. |
| 16:45.58 | Kaelten | " |
| 16:46.07 | Kaelten | that'd be fun |
| 16:46.30 | [Ammo] | rofl |
| 16:46.41 | [Ammo] | well, kenco is going way out there now |
| 16:46.48 | [Ammo] | he'll identify mobs uniquely from the combatlog |
| 16:46.53 | [Ammo] | *badabum!* |
| 16:46.59 | sbu | oh? |
| 16:47.03 | hypetech | oh |
| 16:47.16 | Kaelten | er? say what? |
| 16:47.20 | [Ammo] | yes |
| 16:47.24 | Kaelten | I've tried to figure that out. its impossibile |
| 16:47.33 | Chompers | that's not going to work |
| 16:47.34 | Saroz | odd, self.enabled is true when oRA_JoinedRaid() is fired in Cooldowns |
| 16:47.41 | [Ammo] | whereas an implementation as i have thought about it previously would isolate separate instances of the same mob. |
| 16:47.44 | [Ammo] | etc.. |
| 16:47.55 | kenlyric | Kaelten: well, kenco is obviously better than you, that's why he writes a better threat mod. |
| 16:47.56 | hypetech | interesting.... |
| 16:48.01 | Kaelten | I'll be digging into that code as soon as its out |
| 16:48.05 | Kaelten | since its bullshit and all |
| 16:48.08 | hypetech | I think he's just blowing smoke to get some publicity back |
| 16:48.16 | [Ammo] | well |
| 16:48.16 | kenlyric | he'll write it lolcode so you can't read it. |
| 16:48.19 | [Ammo] | if he did find a good way |
| 16:48.24 | [Ammo] | cudos to him |
| 16:48.43 | hypetech | If he found a way to do that I'd go back to KTM and never switch just on principle |
| 16:48.55 | [Ammo] | can we hold you up on that? |
| 16:49.06 | hypetech | lol |
| 16:49.07 | [Ammo] | ofcourse it's completely unverifiable :) |
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| 16:49.23 | kenlyric | well, even if he manages to code something correctly you can't really ignore the "complete asshole" library he adds to his mods. |
| 16:49.41 | Funkeh` | heya |
| 16:50.00 | Saroz | we're talking about you Funkeh` |
| 16:50.11 | Funkeh` | fuck :/ |
| 16:50.14 | Firedancer | lol |
| 16:50.19 | kenlyric | I want copyright on Asshole-1.0 |
| 16:50.21 | Chompers | and that's why Funkeh` is dumb |
| 16:50.25 | Chompers | ohnoes its Funkeh` |
| 16:50.58 | kebinusan | Yeah, I need to get my guild to start enabling omen/threat again after the lil snafu we had in ssc |
| 16:51.18 | kenlyric | nah |
| 16:51.19 | Antiarc|Work | http://wow.qj.net/Chinese-censorship-brings-flesh-to-undead-bones/pg/49/aid/96565 |
| 16:51.20 | Azurewrath | oh btw. about mobs with the same name.. wouldn |
| 16:51.24 | Azurewrath | bah.. |
| 16:51.26 | hypetech | ? |
| 16:52.01 | kebinusan | But that bug got fixed so we wont bring our raid to a crashing halt next time |
| 16:52.06 | Azurewrath | would'nt it be possible to identify mobs who have a different raid icon? |
| 16:52.13 | kebinusan | Azurewrath: no |
| 16:52.24 | kebinusan | cause there is no distinction in the combatlog |
| 16:53.02 | Saroz | [Ammo], btw, that bug I mentioned is because GetUnitObjectFromName() in StartCoolDown() returns nil on the first oRA_JoinedRaid() -- dunno how to fix, will leave that up to you |
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| 16:53.06 | Antiarc|Work | Your Multishot hits Skeleton for 402. |
| 16:53.08 | Antiarc|Work | Your Multishot hits Skeleton for 409. |
| 16:53.11 | Antiarc|Work | Your Multishot hits Skeleton for 392. |
| 16:53.15 | Antiarc|Work | What skeleton is what? |
| 16:53.20 | steev64 | damn hunters! |
| 16:53.20 | Azurewrath | right.. but let's say you only do dmg to one mob.. and you have "Star" as your target.. ah.. nevermind.. target switching while casting etc. :/ |
| 16:53.22 | kebinusan | clearly the one with the star |
| 16:53.26 | steev64 | stop breaking CC! |
| 16:53.33 | Antiarc|Work | Azurewrath: Or focus or mouseover casting. |
| 16:53.34 | steev64 | 2 of those were shackled! |
| 16:53.40 | Azurewrath | yeah right.. |
| 16:53.47 | Antiarc|Work | Azurewrath: And anything that hits multiple targets. |
| 16:53.49 | kenlyric | you can't shackle based on raid icon. |
| 16:54.03 | kenlyric | I don't see why you'd be able to track in any other way based on raid icon. |
| 16:54.16 | Azurewrath | it's ok.. was just an idea ;) |
| 16:54.37 | mikma | Antiarc|Work: wow, i want to see an undead with skin on! |
| 16:54.50 | Antiarc|Work | I'll have to say that it's the most-suggested idea regarding Threat. |
| 16:55.55 | Mikk | Indeed |
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| 16:56.52 | ccKep | Your Arcane Explosion hits Solarian Agent for xxxx. x12 <<< gimme exact threat for everyone, mkayyyy? |
| 16:56.52 | [Ammo] | well from UNIT_SPELLCAST_SENT you always have the correct target altugh mouseover etc.. |
| 16:57.05 | [Ammo] | but yeah AoE type things etc |
| 16:57.37 | Mikk | Otoh the situation is arguably a lot bette than now :P |
| 16:57.39 | [Ammo] | and you'd have to communicate the cast on target with symbol etc etc |
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| 16:57.46 | [Ammo] | but then again |
| 16:57.52 | [Ammo] | targets switch during fight |
| 16:57.54 | [Ammo] | etc |
| 16:58.28 | ccKep | besides that... noones needs exact threat values when fighting multiple mobs with the same name, that's usually cheap trashmobs / aoe-packs anyways |
| 16:58.49 | Mikk | If you see "MultiplyNamedMob" in the combatlog, and "MultiplyNamedMob" is your target, assume it's your target with that exact raid icon |
| 16:58.55 | Mikk | But ccKep is right |
| 16:59.05 | Mikk | And anyone liking to set the current target to e.g. Skull is gonig to fuck it over |
| 16:59.53 | TheKarn | is there a reason why blizzard havent given us an api to distinguish between mobs? |
| 17:00.04 | nevcairiel | they dont want us to be able to |
| 17:00.10 | Mikk | to require players to have skill |
| 17:01.03 | ccKep | anti-botting-policy or something like that :o |
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| 17:01.45 | TheKarn | that doesnt make sense though |
| 17:02.04 | CIA-22 | 03helium * r42629 10Mendeleev/ (4 files in 2 dirs): |
| 17:02.04 | CIA-22 | Mendeleev: |
| 17:02.04 | CIA-22 | - updated zhTW localization |
| 17:02.16 | ccKep | does something like TargetByName still work in combat? |
| 17:02.25 | [Ammo] | no you use: /target |
| 17:02.31 | Health | Penis! |
| 17:02.50 | steev64 | Health: your mastery of the english language astounds me. |
| 17:02.51 | Kaelten | TheKarn: it'd be easier to tell the difference |
| 17:02.59 | Kaelten | its also a datamining countermeasure |
| 17:03.06 | Health | Thanks steve 64 bit! |
| 17:03.13 | ccKep | made myself 2 macros for kael'thas fight (just learning it, only spent a few attempts on him so far) |
| 17:03.25 | Chompers | gotta love trade channel, somones been scammed and going ballistic |
| 17:03.29 | Morghus | Was it KTM that checked if you were a hunter every second or something? |
| 17:03.36 | Kalman| | Yep. |
| 17:03.38 | Mikk | Morghus: every frame |
| 17:03.42 | Mikk | and all other stats about you |
| 17:03.45 | Health | Nice. |
| 17:03.47 | ccKep | its like /target Cosmic Infuser /script SetRaidTagetIcon("target",1) /target Devastation /script SetRaidTargetIcon("target", 2) .... but I'd like to transfer that into my bigwigs |
| 17:03.50 | kenlyric | in case you changed class? |
| 17:03.50 | Mikk | which equipment you're wearing, what buffs you have, etc |
| 17:04.09 | ccKep | but if TargetByName doesn't work anymore I guess I'll stick with the 2 macros :o |
| 17:04.13 | TheKarn | i want to raid |
| 17:04.16 | TheKarn | damn my guild and slacking |
| 17:04.35 | NeoTron | stick with my warlock or level a priest through BC, rep grind, gear up and raid as either holy or shadow priest.. |
| 17:04.49 | Saroz | Antiarc, ping |
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| 17:05.02 | TheKarn | NeoTron: stick to warlock |
| 17:05.17 | hypetech | once BlizzCon tickets are sold out, there's no way to get them is there? :( |
| 17:05.18 | TheKarn | NeoTron: too many shadow priests (on my server at least) and warlocks have more use/dps imo |
| 17:05.21 | ccKep | level priest :> |
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| 17:05.27 | NeoTron | TheKarn: I know the benefits of being a warlock, trust me. However it's more than just a personal choice too |
| 17:06.00 | NeoTron | the guild needs at least 1-2 shadow priests and could use some really solid healers and we have lots of good locks :P |
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| 17:06.40 | Morghus | Mikk: You mean... it checks if I'm a druid as often as I have fps? Oo |
| 17:06.48 | Mikk | Morghus: correct |
| 17:06.53 | Roartindon_ | Morghus: Amongst other things |
| 17:07.01 | Saroz | [Ammo], would it be any harm to fire a trigger for oRA_ResurrectionStart, which contained the target of the res and who is ressing, so there was no need to do msg:find() etc. etc. twice |
| 17:07.09 | NeoTron | TheKarn: and we sure don't see an overflow of shadow priests :P |
| 17:07.23 | Morghus | Mikk: Is there some advantage to this that eludes me? |
| 17:07.31 | TheKarn | NeoTron: Horde-EU? |
| 17:07.31 | Roartindon_ | Morghus: Coding laziness |
| 17:07.39 | Mikk | No, it's just that event driven programming eludes kenco |
| 17:07.58 | Morghus | Roartindon_: And it does this in Shattrah too? =P= |
| 17:08.03 | Roartindon_ | Yeah, he should register UNIT_CLASS_CHANGED :) |
| 17:08.14 | Mikk | Morghus: everywhere, all the time |
| 17:08.16 | nevcairiel | when does a unit class actually change?:P |
| 17:08.24 | Roartindon_ | nevcairiel: Im being facetious, of course :) |
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| 17:08.50 | NightHawkAtWork | hehe... |
| 17:08.54 | TheKarn | sucks ... still havent been to SSC or The Eye yet. |
| 17:08.59 | NeoTron | TheKarn: alliance-EU |
| 17:09.05 | Mikk | Anyway, the class call is just the smallest example. It's not even that bloody expensive. What's really expensive is all the other shit it also does once per frame. |
| 17:09.07 | NeoTron | what we really need though, are resto shamans |
| 17:09.20 | NeoTron | but I don't know any high level shaman I can take over :P |
| 17:09.22 | Mikk | ? |
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| 17:09.23 | Mikk | resto shamans? |
| 17:09.30 | NeoTron | resto shamans rock |
| 17:09.30 | Morghus | Roartindon_, Mikk: Are you sure all that junk is still in there though? Oo |
| 17:09.39 | Morghus | Restoration shamans are pretty amazing :) |
| 17:09.40 | NightHawkAtWork | Hm, I should probably play my shaman one of these days. >.> |
| 17:09.40 | Mikk | for what? o.O |
| 17:09.42 | NeoTron | chain heal is absolutely amazing |
| 17:09.50 | Mikk | yeah ok chain heal is nice |
| 17:09.56 | NeoTron | they can top raid healing charts with almost no overhealing with less than great gear |
| 17:09.57 | Morghus | Earth Shield :) |
| 17:09.59 | NightHawkAtWork | chain heal, earth shield, totems.. |
| 17:10.00 | NeoTron | and earth shield |
| 17:10.05 | NeoTron | they are really incredible |
| 17:10.22 | Mikk | totems are useful ofc. but enh shammies have those too :P |
| 17:10.36 | NightHawkAtWork | yeah, but if you need a healer. :P |
| 17:10.54 | Mikk | mhm. one resto shaman spamming chainheal is nice. |
| 17:11.04 | Mikk | dont' see the need for lots tho :P |
| 17:11.12 | NeoTron | except ench shammies do like no damage nor can they heal :P |
| 17:11.15 | NeoTron | worst of the three |
| 17:11.24 | NeoTron | 2 would be good |
| 17:11.30 | Mikk | enh shammies do "ok" damage, but the boost they bring to a melee group is bonkers |
| 17:11.30 | NeoTron | Mikk: let me guess - horde? |
| 17:11.40 | Mikk | NeoTron: alliance actually :P |
| 17:11.41 | NeoTron | yeah but a resto shaman brings almost the same amount of oomph |
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| 17:12.00 | NeoTron | ah right, horde knows resto shamans rock. alliance thinks it's all aobut enhancement ;-) |
| 17:12.07 | NeoTron | elemental and resto are the best shaman specs in raids |
| 17:12.26 | NightHawkAtWork | eh, i'd say enhancement offers distinctly more than non-enh for a melee dps group |
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| 17:12.31 | Mikk | seriously, stick an enh shaman with a WF totem in a group with dps warrs and rogues and watch dps go kaboom |
| 17:12.48 | kergoth | stormstrike makes my envenom happy |
| 17:13.08 | NightHawkAtWork | the enh shammy will have UR, improved SoE, and improved WF totems, plus stormstrike synergizes well with ele shammies and poisons |
| 17:13.13 | Mikk | granted, you overdoes on enh shamans really quickly |
| 17:13.15 | Morghus | We're usually in a group of me (druid), warrior, rogue, random, shaman. All 5 of us are always in the top 7. |
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| 17:13.30 | NightHawkAtWork | In a 25 man raid, you could easily find a place for 3 shammies, one of each spec. |
| 17:13.31 | NeoTron | ,odt amd stick a resto shaman in there with WF totem and see rpetty much the same.. |
| 17:13.55 | NeoTron | and yes I know the benefit of enhancement shammies |
| 17:13.55 | Mikk | ele shamans though just seem laughably like oomkin to me |
| 17:14.02 | NeoTron | unfortunately our ench shammy is forced to go resto |
| 17:14.05 | NeoTron | Mikk: right.. |
| 17:14.20 | Mikk | i dunno.. ele shamans i've seen have just gone oom halfway through the fight |
| 17:14.23 | NightHawkAtWork | Mikk: yeah, kinda. ALthough, imo, ToW/WoA makes them better than oomkins :P |
| 17:14.24 | Mikk | could be that they suck ofc |
| 17:14.40 | NeoTron | Mikk: http://www.lossendil.com/wws/?report=rgfevth3c5akw |
| 17:14.42 | Moltarain | emp heal priest + tank + elemental shammy + warlock + mage = pwnadge in heroics ;) |
| 17:14.53 | Mikk | i was talking raids |
| 17:14.57 | NeoTron | elemental hshaman at 7... behidn the locks and the moonkin |
| 17:15.13 | NeoTron | I think people need to realize that this is not WoW 1.0 |
| 17:15.25 | Funkeh` | how the hell do i remove the trade goods category from baggins |
| 17:15.31 | Funkeh` | i can't find the rule for it |
| 17:15.32 | NeoTron | both moonknis and elemental shamans are not just viable to a raid, but amazingly good |
| 17:15.43 | Morghus | Elemental shamans are pretty darn impressive now. ONe of ours are able to compete up towards the top 5 usually. |
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| 17:15.50 | Moltarain | well ppl who can play shammy do same dmg as mage... |
| 17:15.55 | NightHawkAtWork | Funkeh`: best bet is to find the section in the 'bags' window, and see what categories it uses. |
| 17:15.56 | NeoTron | http://www.lossendil.com/wws/?report=rgfevth3c5akw&s=11325-12120 moonkin at 4, elemental shaman at 5 |
| 17:16.06 | NightHawkAtWork | Funkeh`: from memory, its named a little oddly |
| 17:16.12 | Morghus | NeoTron: What're you playing? |
| 17:16.19 | NeoTron | warlock |
| 17:16.29 | CIA-22 | 03adirelle * r42630 10SimpleSelfRebuff/ (14 files in 2 dirs): |
| 17:16.29 | CIA-22 | SimpleSelfRebuff: |
| 17:16.29 | CIA-22 | - added a bunch of new spells for all classes, |
| 17:16.29 | CIA-22 | - pre-alpha support for weapon buffs and buff from consumables, |
| 17:16.29 | CIA-22 | - roughly tested, expect much breakage ! |
| 17:16.47 | NeoTron | elemental shaman group buffs are pretty sick too. 4 spell hit, 3 spell crit, over 100 spell damage |
| 17:16.55 | NeoTron | combine with 5% crit from a moonkin |
| 17:16.59 | Morghus | NeoTron: That's interesting. Always wanted to see how boomkins were doing |
| 17:17.08 | NeoTron | he's doing really good |
| 17:17.11 | NeoTron | plus, he can heal |
| 17:17.23 | NeoTron | over 200 mp5 helps... |
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| 17:17.42 | Roartindon_ | NeoTron: hmm.. with an elemental shaman and a boomkin in group, I think I can hit almost 50% crit rate with scorch |
| 17:17.47 | NeoTron | yeah |
| 17:17.51 | NeoTron | guess what we usually do.. |
| 17:17.59 | Roartindon_ | NeoTron: Which is nice with lightning capacitors |
| 17:18.11 | NeoTron | mage + destro warlock + another mage or warlock or possibly shadow priest for mana |
| 17:18.24 | Roartindon_ | NeoTron: For us, it depends on fight |
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| 17:18.26 | Morghus | Shaman, druid, mage, warlock shadow priest? |
| 17:18.36 | Morghus | *lock, and |
| 17:18.51 | NeoTron | pretty much yes |
| 17:18.57 | NeoTron | but not always shadow priest |
| 17:19.06 | NightHawkAtWork | that's sad, you need more spriests then :P |
| 17:19.09 | NeoTron | yeah |
| 17:19.12 | NeoTron | we only have 1 atm |
| 17:19.24 | NeoTron | our best SP and one of our best players is on hiatus |
| 17:19.25 | Morghus | I can imagine that too |
| 17:19.28 | Kalman| | If I had an elemental shaman in my group, I'd basically be hitcapped before gear (only need 1%). |
| 17:19.31 | Kalman| | That's absurd. |
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| 17:19.34 | NeoTron | Mikk: you're incorrect |
| 17:19.40 | NeoTron | but thanks for thinking so |
| 17:19.56 | V^ | So guys, whats up with the Skinner error when using ArkInventory |
| 17:20.05 | NeoTron | Mikk: that lurker fight was completely shadow priest free for the moonkin/shaman |
| 17:20.07 | mikma | anyone here use other locale than enUS/enGB? I could use some translations if you have the time :) |
| 17:20.08 | [Ammo] | skinner probably sucks, disable it :p |
| 17:20.37 | Mikk | Well, obviously your stats don't lie. All I can conclude is that I must have only watched oomkins and ele shammies that suck ass. |
| 17:20.37 | V^ | No [Ammo] |
| 17:20.37 | V^ | As it does not |
| 17:20.37 | V^ | !!! |
| 17:20.38 | NeoTron | I've seen mages do 400 DPS and I've seen equally equipped mages do 2x that |
| 17:20.38 | Roartindon_ | Mikk: I've seen ele shamans that suck ass, and I've seen some pretty good ones too |
| 17:20.48 | NeoTron | player > class |
| 17:20.51 | aen` | whats the wowace substitute for "reagentinfo" that adds professions/etc to tooltips? |
| 17:20.56 | Roartindon_ | Mikk: I've seen an ele shaman average 850 dps on some kara fights |
| 17:21.07 | Mikk | aen`: mendeleev |
| 17:21.23 | NeoTron | willingness to use mana pots, for example, can change DPS significantly |
| 17:21.36 | Mikk | NeoTron: aye no kidding. and using them from the start ofc. |
| 17:21.41 | NeoTron | right |
| 17:21.46 | Roartindon_ | Mana pots are so cheap now too |
| 17:21.48 | NeoTron | I bet quite a few ppl wait until OOM.. |
| 17:21.52 | NeoTron | which doesn't work |
| 17:21.53 | Mikk | indeed |
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| 17:22.18 | Antiarc|Work | Chugging mana pots is like having, what, something like +120 mp5? |
| 17:22.40 | Mikk | +insane boost with alch trinket |
| 17:22.45 | Antiarc|Work | Ah, that's true. |
| 17:22.46 | [Ammo] | yup |
| 17:22.47 | NeoTron | there are two reasons I'm hesitant to changing to a priest though... the l70 rep grind ( ugh - esp shadow you'll want at least 66 badges worth of items) |
| 17:22.58 | Morghus | NeoTron: Human shadowpriest? |
| 17:23.00 | [Ammo] | 66 badges is no big trouble |
| 17:23.01 | NeoTron | and the consumable use in raids (yes, you get lazy as a lock) |
| 17:23.10 | Roartindon_ | NeoTron: 66 badges is pretty easy.. I had 120 banked at one stage |
| 17:23.12 | [Ammo] | consumables can be farmed easily now |
| 17:23.18 | Roartindon_ | NeoTron: And have all my FR gear bought, and other stuff bought |
| 17:23.22 | NeoTron | [Ammo]: not horribly so.. but getting all the heroic reps up to speed again is.. |
| 17:23.33 | Morghus | I'm pretty lazy about badges. I really hate doing heroics :P |
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| 17:23.46 | NeoTron | it's especially hard in a guil where everyone is already revered or exalted with all reps |
| 17:23.51 | NeoTron | since you either need to pug or beg |
| 17:23.56 | Kalman| | Wow. A pair of people 46-boxing WoW. |
| 17:24.06 | NeoTron | Kalman|: seems a bit excessive |
| 17:24.07 | Roartindon_ | Kalman|: Gold sellers? :) |
| 17:24.17 | Kalman| | Roartindon_: Apparently not, but it's an impressive setup. |
| 17:24.17 | Kalman| | http://i183.photobucket.com/albums/x45/Xzin-WoW/wowboxes.jpg |
| 17:24.22 | Roartindon_ | 46 lvl 1 chars by mailboxes going "buy gold!" |
| 17:24.35 | Roartindon_ | Kalman|: ........ that's ridiculous..... |
| 17:24.42 | Kalman| | http://i183.photobucket.com/albums/x45/Xzin-WoW/ops.jpg |
| 17:24.51 | mikma | Kalman|: is that some botting-rack? |
| 17:24.54 | KarlThePagan | so... our raid leader is making everyone use KTM for reaver :P |
| 17:24.55 | Kalman| | Definitely not goldsellers, goldsellers don't get plus leather chairs. |
| 17:24.56 | ScoTTie | thought the zin's were only 5 man ? |
| 17:25.06 | Kalman| | The zins are 5-man, he's just hosting those photos. |
| 17:25.14 | aen` | mikma: that is from a guy that used to play on my EQ server |
| 17:25.14 | ScoTTie | ah |
| 17:25.22 | mikma | aen`: is he a botter? ;D |
| 17:25.25 | aen` | his name was Gameslah |
| 17:25.26 | aen` | no |
| 17:25.32 | aen` | hes legit |
| 17:25.33 | NeoTron | just excessively rich? |
| 17:25.42 | NeoTron | I mean what could possbiyl be the point of so many? |
| 17:25.44 | Roartindon_ | yeah, that's quite an expense... |
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| 17:25.47 | aen` | he uses a gamepad to control multiple chars |
| 17:26.00 | Kalman| | NeoTron: Because you can. |
| 17:26.18 | NeoTron | I'd probably have two good boxes if I could afford it |
| 17:26.22 | Roartindon_ | NeoTron: Run a 25 man raid by yourself :P |
| 17:26.26 | NeoTron | and then have a really nice gaming setup :P |
| 17:26.27 | aen` | he played on Vazaelle in EQ1 |
| 17:26.35 | CIA-22 | 03arith * r42631 10AtlasLoot/ (13 files in 8 dirs): |
| 17:26.35 | CIA-22 | AtlasLoot: |
| 17:26.35 | CIA-22 | - zhTW update |
| 17:26.46 | Kalman| | ScoTTie: http://i183.photobucket.com/albums/x45/Xzin-WoW/image017.jpg is pretty good too. 5 box ele shaman. |
| 17:26.47 | Kirkburn|sleep | Oooooh, Antiarc - http://www.wowinsider.com/2007/07/03/a-faster-better-stronger-threatmeter/ |
| 17:27.03 | ScoTTie | haha |
| 17:27.13 | ScoTTie | i only found out about the zin's the other day |
| 17:27.14 | Antiarc|Work | Dammit! |
| 17:27.18 | Antiarc|Work | I don't want this traffic till it's done! |
| 17:27.27 | ScoTTie | thats pretty crazy though :P |
| 17:27.32 | Kirkburn|sleep | Post a response |
| 17:28.01 | Kirkburn|sleep | You could email them to get an update posted as well, they're good for that :) |
| 17:28.08 | Antiarc|Work | Heh, I will |
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| 17:30.06 | Gnancy | heh the zins were on my server .... tho im alliance and hes horde |
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| 17:31.12 | NeoTron | Kalman|: that just looks wicked |
| 17:31.16 | Antiarc|Work | Posted. Thanks, Kirkburn|sleep. |
| 17:31.17 | mikma | oh yeah |
| 17:31.21 | mikma | completely legit player.. http://s183.photobucket.com/albums/x45/Xzin-WoW/?action=view¤t=2farm.jpg |
| 17:31.30 | Gnancy | yup |
| 17:31.42 | Kirkburn|sleep | np, Antiarc - we have a NewBot on #wowwiki that tells us when new stuff is posted :) |
| 17:31.47 | Kirkburn|sleep | *newsbot |
| 17:32.07 | Gnancy | i remember he posted a gm response (for what thats worth) on the relm forums saying it was ok mikma |
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| 17:32.20 | Iceroth | oRA2\Leader\Ready.lua:279: attempt to index upvalue 'ready' (a nil value) |
| 17:32.22 | Roartindon_ | Kirkburn|sleep: svn rss feed? :) |
| 17:32.32 | Kirkburn|sleep | mikma, hah, I love how it's colour coordinated |
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| 17:33.08 | Kirkburn|sleep | Checks MMO Champion, WOW Insider, GamePolitics, may be some others I forgot |
| 17:33.21 | Antiarc|Work | Neat. |
| 17:33.27 | CIA-22 | 03candykiss * r42632 10ClosetGnome/locales/zhCN.lua: ClosetGnome: fix zhCN translation for "Bag", it matches the return value of GetItemInfo now |
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| 17:34.53 | Kirkburn|sleep | One of dotted's creations, iirc |
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| 17:35.46 | Kalman| | mikma: The Xzin-WoW account hosts a lot of pictures that aren't his setup; he runs a boxing site. |
| 17:38.56 | Azurewrath | [Ammo]: [2007/07/03 19:36:01-1334-x19]: oRA2\Leader\Ready.lua:279: attempt to index upvalue 'ready' (a nil value) |
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| 17:40.41 | Pheredhel | is TagCompiler more effiecient then a sting.gsub when just replacing some tags with string.gsub ? (simple substitution) |
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| 17:42.01 | NeoTron | Kalman|: I'd hate to figure out who gets the loot when you 5-box an instance! Imagine the infightin! |
| 17:42.52 | kenlyric | roll for shards! |
| 17:42.54 | Mikk | Pheredhel: it's only efficient if you're doing it lots |
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| 17:43.25 | Pheredhel | everytime i output a text ? |
| 17:43.36 | Mikk | how often is every time? |
| 17:43.53 | Mikk | there's quite an overhead in generating the code to do the substitutions etc |
| 17:43.56 | jme | ugh |
| 17:43.57 | jme | Server is busy, please try again |
| 17:44.03 | jme | all morning :( |
| 17:44.05 | Pheredhel | everytime someone breaks a crowd control spell |
| 17:44.15 | Mikk | that's not often |
| 17:44.19 | Mikk | several times per frame is often =) |
| 17:44.26 | kenlyric | heh, new wowinsider. |
| 17:44.43 | Pheredhel | ok, so i'll just stick to gsub |
| 17:44.48 | Mikk | aye |
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| 17:47.28 | jme | death and taxes downs illidan, heh |
| 17:47.39 | Megalon | Antiarc: ping |
| 17:48.14 | Antiarc|Work | Pong |
| 17:48.22 | Megalon | [2007/07/03 19:43:28-184-x2]: ...s\Threat-1.0\Threat-1.0\ThreatMobNameTranslation.lua:149: Conflicting translation for Underbog Colossus in deDE: old is "Tiefensumpfkolossnil", new is "Tiefensumpfkoloss". Please report to Antiarc.: |
| 17:48.30 | ilifin | I'm back, and with more genius bash.org quotes |
| 17:48.33 | ilifin | http://www.bash.org/?714660 |
| 17:48.39 | Antiarc|Work | Megalon: Perfect, thank you. Do you know which is correct? |
| 17:48.45 | NightHawkAtWork | ~lart ilifin |
| 17:48.45 | purl | shoots ilifin in the head |
| 17:48.54 | Antiarc|Work | Ooh. Right. |
| 17:49.04 | Antiarc|Work | Nevermind - that's due to someone in your raid running an older version of Threat |
| 17:49.18 | Antiarc|Work | Have them update when possible (right click the Omen frame, Show Party Revisions should show who is out of date) |
| 17:49.23 | ThePug[zZz] | This is odd, the new version of WAU is crashing sometimes when i try to update my mods. |
| 17:50.32 | Megalon | Tiefensumpfkoloss |
| 17:50.42 | Megalon | ah |
| 17:50.44 | Antiarc|Work | Right. The first translation has a "nil" tacked on to it due to a bug in an older version. |
| 17:50.59 | Megalon | ok, i'll tell them to update :) |
| 17:51.03 | Antiarc|Work | Great. :) |
| 17:51.40 | Antiarc|Work | (due to the nature of distributed cached translations, to make sure that no bugs are left in the raid group, have the whole raid do an /rl after everyone updates) |
| 17:52.12 | Antiarc|Work | inconvenient, I know, but it's the best way to make sure you don't have old cached bogus translations hanging around for this session |
| 17:55.43 | Azurewrath | i've set a motd today that everyone should update Omen since the new revision is incompatible.. and everyone in the raid actually did.. wonders still exist. |
| 17:55.50 | Antiarc|Work | :O |
| 17:56.15 | Antiarc|Work | I'm really hoping last night's changes fix the standing problems with cross-locale stuff. |
| 17:56.59 | Azurewrath | don't know.. we only do Lady Vashj atm and it's the same name in both locales ;) |
| 17:57.18 | Antiarc|Work | Well, the names of the Striders should be different |
| 17:57.23 | Azurewrath | mhm, right |
| 17:58.15 | yacoob | http://youtube.com/watch?v=go2KAtxtxX8 8) |
| 17:59.24 | Gnarfoz | Azurewrath: they'll change her name sooner or later, too. you know it. |
| 18:00.18 | Azurewrath | hehe, probably.. i switched to the enGB Client when they changed Fel Wood to "Teufelswald" in the deDE Client.. that was enough.. |
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| 18:01.23 | Tuks | oh man, so many people in here |
| 18:01.39 | NeoTron | I think it'd be incredibly weird to play WoW in my native language (Swedish) |
| 18:01.43 | NeoTron | I'd be completely lost |
| 18:02.35 | Azurewrath | ah well.. i like the German language itself.. but i don't like translated games/movies etc. when i'm able to experience the original version.. which is much better in most cases |
| 18:02.50 | CIA-22 | 03ammo * r42633 10oRA2/Leader/Ready.lua: oRA2: bugfix ready errors |
| 18:03.05 | Tuks | now try spanish version of blizard games |
| 18:03.19 | Tuks | speech sound retarded.. completely |
| 18:04.10 | Azurewrath | yeah, the speech sucks the most |
| 18:04.52 | CIA-22 | 03rabbit * r42634 10oRA2/Leader/Ready.lua: oRA2: Leader/Ready: Bugfix the bugfix. |
| 18:05.13 | CIA-22 | 03antiarc 07Threat-1.0 * r42635 10Threat-1.0/ (2 files in 2 dirs): Threat-1.0: Add debug messages to Void Reaver module. |
| 18:05.33 | Tuks | whats that automatic messange? |
| 18:05.53 | Mikk | our commits of new/changed sourcecode to the SVN |
| 18:05.54 | Mikk | ~svn |
| 18:05.54 | purl | it has been said that subversion is version control software. see http://subversion.tigris.org/ it aims to be a better CVS than CVS. |
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| 18:07.11 | Tuks | oh, sorry im a n00b |
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| 18:08.20 | Mikk | ~handbag Schmidt |
| 18:08.21 | purl | ACTION runs up to Schmidt and thwaps him over the head with a handbag! |
| 18:08.35 | ThePug[zZz] | GJ blizzard for fucking up the authentification system |
| 18:08.43 | Schmidt | o.O |
| 18:08.56 | ThePug[zZz] | 2 more hours of maintainence |
| 18:09.05 | Schmidt | @ckknight: Did you get my PM on the Wowace forums? |
| 18:09.16 | Schmidt | lol pug |
| 18:10.01 | steev64 | whine some more? |
| 18:10.29 | Stan__ | you want cheese for your whine? |
| 18:10.30 | Schmidt | I want to commit a change to the SVN and I was wondering how I go about getting a username and password and such. |
| 18:10.38 | Tuks | ./crying |
| 18:10.47 | Azurewrath | Antiarc: mhm.. the cross-loca aggro for striders seems to be broken.. but i'll try again |
| 18:10.58 | ThePug[zZz] | lol. I'd just like to see a week where they might get something right. |
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| 18:11.04 | Antiarc|Work | Azurewrath: Can you do me a favor and /run AceLibrary("Threat-1.0"):DumpTranslationTable() ? |
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| 18:11.09 | Antiarc|Work | And screenshot it |
| 18:11.15 | Azurewrath | sure |
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| 18:11.54 | NightHawkAtWork | Schmidt: there's a thread on the forums, and probably also a wiki page. |
| 18:12.15 | Mikk | Schmidt: http://www.wowace.com/wiki/SVN_Rules |
| 18:12.24 | Schmidt | I see. Let me look at that. |
| 18:12.27 | NightHawkAtWork | Mikk's totally got all the answers today. :P |
| 18:12.38 | Mikk | but if it's a once-off, you're prolly just best off to send a diff to the author |
| 18:12.54 | Mikk | either way, you'll want to ask the author for permission before changing stuff in someone else's addon |
| 18:12.55 | Schmidt | And how do I make a diff? |
| 18:13.12 | Mikk | or just send him your modified version, that works too :P |
| 18:13.12 | Schmidt | It's a correction, rather than any sort of rewrite. |
| 18:13.32 | Schmidt | And I've already sent it. =/ |
| 18:13.32 | durcyn | well, `diff -Nau ' is how real men do it |
| 18:13.46 | Schmidt | And before that I posted it on the forums >< |
| 18:13.56 | Mikk | Ah, unresponsive author |
| 18:14.00 | Mikk | Shoot, what are we talking about? |
| 18:14.20 | Mikk | Link to your forum post perhaps? |
| 18:14.28 | Schmidt | lol if I can find it |
| 18:14.42 | mitch0 | which addon? |
| 18:14.43 | Mikk | or just type it up =) |
| 18:14.47 | Mikk | whatever works for you =) |
| 18:14.52 | Schmidt | DogTag o.O |
| 18:14.56 | mitch0 | ah |
| 18:15.08 | Schmidt | the UnitSex() functions are broken |
| 18:15.22 | Azurewrath | Antiarc: dumps nothing |
| 18:15.38 | Antiarc|Work | Hrm. That's not good. |
| 18:15.47 | Schmidt | http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=7002.msg115267#msg115267 |
| 18:16.10 | Antiarc|Work | Try /dump AceLibrary("Threat-1.0"):GetModule("MobNameTranslation").mobNameTranslationEnabled |
| 18:17.15 | Azurewrath | ouputs "true" |
| 18:17.54 | mitch0 | ok, now let's see what I hacked together @work :) |
| 18:18.13 | Antiarc|Work | Blah! |
| 18:18.17 | nekoh | replace "/run" with "/dump" or "/print" |
| 18:18.25 | nekoh | on the previos one |
| 18:18.38 | Antiarc|Work | Oooooh. |
| 18:18.39 | Antiarc|Work | I see. |
| 18:18.41 | mitch0 | error... |
| 18:18.44 | nekoh | or does it that automatically allready ? |
| 18:18.47 | Schmidt | So can you let ckknight or whoever else, know about this? |
| 18:18.58 | Schmidt | @Mikk ^^ |
| 18:19.00 | nekoh | nvm |
| 18:19.02 | Antiarc|Work | Mmm. No, perhaps not. |
| 18:20.02 | Azurewrath | the first one with /dump instead of /run outputs nil |
| 18:20.09 | Strigoi | damn i can't get it ;p How does violation count DPS |
| 18:20.26 | Strigoi | seeing mage with 1,9k dps and hunter with 2,3k dps is quite.... wierd |
| 18:20.31 | Mikk | Strigoi: as i've heard, it's the highest burst seen over a couple of seconds |
| 18:20.36 | Gnarfoz | so, LightHeaded is the best addon to get for ingame quest commentary at the moment, right? |
| 18:20.38 | Mikk | 4? |
| 18:20.54 | Strigoi | yeah i heard that too but it doesn't make sence imho |
| 18:21.03 | Strigoi | why can it be usefull? |
| 18:21.36 | Mikk | Schmidt: aeuhh theoretically i could just plug it in |
| 18:21.45 | Schmidt | Mikk: Will you let ckknight or whoever else, know about this? |
| 18:22.00 | CIA-22 | 03antiarc * r42636 10Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0/ThreatMobNameTranslation.lua: Threat-1.0: Possible fix to translation functions. |
| 18:22.19 | Antiarc|Work | Azurewrath: You can watch the debug messages with /run AceLibrary("Threat-1.0").DebugEnabled = true |
| 18:22.20 | Mikk | sigh @ ckk for taking it on himself to do so bloody many addons that he doesn't have time to maintain them |
| 18:22.24 | Antiarc|Work | Then /run ChatFrame5:Show() |
| 18:22.36 | Cryect | <Strigoi> seeing mage with 1,9k dps and hunter with 2,3k dps is quite.... wierd |
| 18:22.38 | Antiarc|Work | That should help you see if there's something odd going on, I'd hope |
| 18:22.41 | Cryect | hah thats quite amusing numbers |
| 18:22.53 | Cryect | if its really short term DPS numbers it might be fine |
| 18:23.09 | Mikk | Schmidt: Actually, no, I won't. If it was some unmaintained addon or the author was on vacation, I could fix it. But I'm not going to take extra load because ckk can't limit himself. |
| 18:23.12 | Strigoi | well it's numbers i have in my violation atm |
| 18:23.15 | Strigoi | for last fight |
| 18:23.32 | Cryect | prolly tracking time in not a very good way |
| 18:23.35 | mitch0 | my top was around 1030 dps (frost mage) |
| 18:23.44 | mitch0 | (according to vio) |
| 18:24.07 | Cryect | like example if the minimum time that can get added is really small and they only did one move |
| 18:24.10 | Schmidt | Mikk: Great, so after each update to DogTag I need to fix it? You can tell him to check his wowace PMs, right? lol /doom |
| 18:24.15 | Cryect | then their DPS could be really high |
| 18:24.15 | Strigoi | well i belive it's AP mages |
| 18:24.26 | [Ammo] | violation = burst dps |
| 18:24.49 | [Ammo] | because total fight dps is meaningless, it's just damage done stats but with a different name |
| 18:25.09 | mitch0 | [ammo]: but how is burst dps calculated? |
| 18:25.12 | [Ammo] | read the code |
| 18:25.16 | mitch0 | gah :) |
| 18:25.22 | [Ammo] | 4 second cooldown period, 1.5 sec minimum |
| 18:25.24 | Antiarc|Work | mitch0: If I had to guess, I'd say "damage done over X seconds" |
| 18:25.25 | mitch0 | first I'll fix the mess I created :) |
| 18:25.25 | Schmidt | Peak dps doesn't make sense imo, because the nature of it is that it can't be sustained. |
| 18:25.41 | Azurewrath | Antiarc: outputs nothing. |
| 18:25.43 | Schmidt | Sustained dps is more meaningful imo. |
| 18:25.59 | Antiarc|Work | Azurewrath: Just let it run and see if you get any odd debug messages pop up |
| 18:26.11 | Azurewrath | ah ok |
| 18:26.18 | Antiarc|Work | Azurewrath: Try flushing your cache with a /rl and then enabling translation |
| 18:26.23 | Antiarc|Work | Err, enabling debugging |
| 18:26.40 | Antiarc|Work | As party members that aren't of your locale target mobs, you should see the translation debug messages |
| 18:26.56 | Azurewrath | ok |
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| 18:27.19 | NeoTron | I hate when the wow armory gets unstable of the armory tools start crashing php :( |
| 18:27.32 | Strigoi | [Ammo] sorry if i'm mistaken but thing is that with "burst" dpsclasses who have short term buffs like AP for mages or beastial wrath for hunters will always top list of DPS |
| 18:28.04 | Mikk | or anyone with a lucky string of crits |
| 18:28.37 | Schmidt | <--- on my arcane mage, a string of five AM crits in a row.... mmmm |
| 18:28.46 | Azurewrath | Antiarc: ok.. we wiped, i updated to r42636.. hope the debug messages i'll get in the next try help |
| 18:29.13 | Blime | in oRA2 when somebody runs /ravote, is there any way for the person who casts the vote to vote yes or no? or will it always come back counting their vote as AFK? |
| 18:29.34 | Strigoi | Wonder if you could implement a feature so you can switch showing sustained dps instead (I guess it's not much of performance loss or allot of code to do) |
| 18:29.59 | Schmidt | Strigoi: Assessment might be more up your alley. |
| 18:30.15 | Schmidt | It's something to consider, in any case, unless you've checked it out and decided against it. |
| 18:30.32 | Strigoi | Nah Violation is all i need but it's only 1 minor issue i have |
| 18:30.57 | Tuks | wich addon you talking about Strigoi |
| 18:31.06 | Antiarc|Work | Great, thank you Azurewrath |
| 18:31.11 | Schmidt | talking about Violation |
| 18:31.58 | Strigoi | Schmidt yeah i checked assessment before and decided that i like violation more ;p |
| 18:32.17 | Tuks | more than.... damagemetters? |
| 18:32.24 | Schmidt | way better, imo |
| 18:32.25 | Schmidt | both are |
| 18:32.32 | Tuks | gona check it |
| 18:32.43 | Cryect | [Ammo] I think your the first person I've heard say burst dps is more important than sustationed DPS and damage done isn't the same as sustained DPS since players can have different amounts of time |
| 18:32.51 | Schmidt | assessment is my preference, but as you can see not all agree with me :) |
| 18:33.36 | Tuks | the coments of assessment scares me :/ |
| 18:33.48 | Cryect | I mean burst DPS is just high when you have a string of high crits or all your instants are all up at once |
| 18:33.49 | Tuks | USE AT YOUR OWN RISK! |
| 18:33.57 | Schmidt | lol |
| 18:34.02 | Cryect | haha just means its not ready for general use etc |
| 18:34.02 | Tuks | er.. not Cryect |
| 18:34.12 | Tuks | burst dps is, poping CDs |
| 18:34.17 | Tuks | crits count as sustanined |
| 18:34.19 | Schmidt | Tuks: It's fine. It just means it might have some errors here and there. Not that it'll explode your hard drive. |
| 18:34.30 | Cryect | well if you have a series of crits together thats high burst DPS for that moment |
| 18:34.36 | Schmidt | or that it'll get in bed with your mom. |
| 18:34.41 | Tuks | but its not burst :P |
| 18:34.42 | NightHawkAtWork | Assessment exploded my hard drive and slept with my sister. |
| 18:34.46 | Tuks | burst means, controlable dps |
| 18:34.47 | Cryect | Tuks: yes its burst |
| 18:34.50 | Tuks | not just lukc |
| 18:34.54 | Cryect | Tuks: Burst doesn't mean controllable |
| 18:35.06 | Tuks | then whats a shaman |
| 18:35.06 | Schmidt | Nighthawk: Did it get in bed with your brother and mother? o.O |
| 18:35.11 | Cryect | Burst just means means you had a high amount for a short amount of time |
| 18:35.14 | Tuks | a burns/no burst class? |
| 18:35.18 | Cryect | shamans DPS is bursty |
| 18:35.25 | NightHawkAtWork | Schmidt: yes! |
| 18:35.42 | Tuks | er.. dictionary of burst please |
| 18:35.46 | Schmidt | lol @ NightHawk |
| 18:36.01 | Tuks | if im not wrong, bursting your dmg means, "empower your own dps for a shor tperiod of time" |
| 18:36.20 | Tuks | if your damage empwer itself that does'nt count as burst |
| 18:36.28 | Mikk | "bursting your dps" would mean "doing dps in short bursts" |
| 18:36.32 | Cryect | burst doesn't have to be controllable |
| 18:36.38 | Tuks | if crits were like.. 5-10% of the time |
| 18:36.42 | NightHawkAtWork | http://www.google.com/search?q=define:burst "A Sudden flurry of activity", "A Sudden violent happening" |
| 18:36.53 | Tuks | but shaman gets 40%.. like mages.. or rogues.. idk |
| 18:37.20 | Tuks | in a boss fight.. you counting crits as burst? |
| 18:37.25 | Cryect | Your DPS at any moment in time can vary a lot |
| 18:37.38 | Cryect | based on crits |
| 18:37.43 | kbh | dagger rogues are burst, sword rogues are sustained |
| 18:37.46 | Cryect | your crits aren't very regular normally |
| 18:37.46 | Cryect | yeah |
| 18:37.57 | Schmidt | sustained dps ftw -- burst dps is rather meaningless imo |
| 18:38.07 | Tuks | well yes.. crist are % based, thats kind regular :P |
| 18:38.08 | kbh | burst dps gets you killed |
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| 18:38.17 | kbh | in pve |
| 18:38.19 | Tuks | 110% true :P |
| 18:38.21 | Mikk | kbh: so clearly the dagger rogue bursting 1500 dps is a lot better than the sword rogue bursting 800 ... even tho the sword rogue outdamages him. ! |
| 18:38.22 | durcyn | 'dps' in general is meaningless, what's the point in arguing semantics about it |
| 18:38.25 | Cryect | uh because its % based it can be not regular |
| 18:38.32 | Cryect | over a long period of time yes its regular |
| 18:38.42 | durcyn | this whole conversation sounds like a bunch of people violently agreeing with eachother |
| 18:38.45 | Cryect | but over a short period it can be either high or low |
| 18:38.56 | Cryect | durcyn: yeah I really think its disagreement over definations :-p |
| 18:38.58 | Schmidt | like I could be dillydallying my way through an instance, doing no damage, and then pop in my arcane power, PoM, pyro, and AM, and I have really high burst dps... and that's it. burst dps. no sustained dps |
| 18:39.02 | NightHawkAtWork | measured over a long enough period of time, everything approaches zero anyway :P |
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| 18:39.56 | Tuks | same as a shaman using elem mastery, trinkets, NS.. or a hunter with bettial wrath |
| 18:40.10 | Tuks | i understand burst dps as.. you manyally turn your dps higer for a period of time |
| 18:40.20 | Strigoi | Cryect i can agree on that one, but would be nice if Violation have an option smth like "show burst dps" if unchecked - it shows sustained dps |
| 18:40.22 | Tuks | if the raid leader tells you, BURST DPS NOW! |
| 18:40.39 | Tuks | what do you say? i cant, i have 23.34% crit... wait for a crit |
| 18:40.45 | Cryect | Burst doesn't mean controlled though |
| 18:40.50 | Strigoi | shouldn't be that hard to do i think , but ofc i could be wrong and it's all up to Ammo |
| 18:40.56 | Mikk | Tuks: the RL is clearly assuming that you have controllable burst dps such as trinkets, skills, talents .. |
| 18:41.10 | Cryect | Well it might be hard depends on how the data is tracked |
| 18:41.21 | Cryect | I mean you could make your own module since violation is modular based |
| 18:41.29 | Mikk | To be correct, he should be going "ACTIVATE ALL TRINKETS, SKILL AND TALENTS THAT INCREASE YOUR DPS MOMENTARILY NOW!" |
| 18:41.31 | Mikk | But that's too long :P |
| 18:41.41 | NightHawkAtWork | Tuks: you can 'force' a burst of dps, but burst doesn't neccessarily imply that it's forced. |
| 18:41.41 | Schmidt | well this discussion looks rather pointless to me, and irrelevant since I don't use violation |
| 18:41.49 | Tuks | Mikk: good one .P |
| 18:41.50 | Schmidt | but i find it hard now to not laugh at Mikk lol |
| 18:41.54 | Cryect | I don't think I've ever been in a raid where anyone says burst DPS now either >_> |
| 18:42.24 | Tuks | in fact im gona write that macro |
| 18:42.37 | Mikk | Cryect: more like GOGOGOGoGOGogogogoo!!11oneoneeleven |
| 18:42.38 | Schmidt | later, guys -- and if you see ckknight, tell him to get on the UnitSex functions of DogTag |
| 18:42.39 | Cryect | I just say pop cooldowns :-p |
| 18:42.45 | Tuks | i bet noone will burst dps, but rofl and go afk for 30 sec |
| 18:42.51 | Schmidt | o.O |
| 18:42.53 | Josh_Borke | ~lart Mikk |
| 18:42.53 | purl | cuts Mikk into thin stripes |
| 18:43.13 | durcyn | Mikk: btw, i'm going to kill your pets. |
| 18:43.16 | Azurewrath | what was the command to log the chat to a textfile again? |
| 18:43.23 | durcyn | Mikk: LOD Postal breaks ACTAI in fun ways. |
| 18:43.38 | Josh_Borke | Azurewrath: /chatlog |
| 18:43.39 | Mikk | wtf is actai >.< |
| 18:44.03 | Kaelten | people don't realize how evil >< looks to with my smilies |
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| 18:44.22 | durcyn | Mikk: AltClickToAddItems, it's required for the auto-send portion of Postal to work. |
| 18:44.33 | Cryect | servers need to come up so I can test my changes and work on some new stuff >_> |
| 18:44.42 | Mikk | durcyn: interesting. i run both. works for me o.O |
| 18:44.50 | ThePug[zZz] | I am using Standalonelibraries (I also use WAU). Shouldn't WAU be updating without using externals? Or am I understanding something wrong? |
| 18:44.57 | durcyn | Mikk: first time you hit a mailbox, see if you get altclick to work |
| 18:45.17 | Mikk | durcyn: ah. i thought you were talking about my latest commit. i fixed that ~two hours ago or so =) |
| 18:45.26 | durcyn | Mikk: son of a bitch, stop fixing things. |
| 18:45.27 | Proph | armorydata that is stored in the .lua file |
| 18:45.31 | durcyn | er, damn. nevermind. |
| 18:46.28 | Mikk | durcyn: basically the problem was that Postal never saw the MAIL_SHOW event if it was spawned as a result of MAIL_SHOW. Naturally. So I just plopped in a manual call to MAIL_SHOW in all modules if the mailframe is open when postal is loading. bit ugly but hey.. |
| 18:46.42 | mitch0 | what's wrong with this line? |
| 18:46.48 | mitch0 | rangeFrame:SetScript("OnLoad", function(this) print("### LALA") ; RangeDisplay:OnLoad(this) end) |
| 18:47.06 | mitch0 | (rangeFrame is a frame created by CreateFrame()) |
| 18:47.20 | Mikk | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:47.25 | Mikk | it's a bit pointless |
| 18:47.26 | mitch0 | gaah |
| 18:47.37 | Tuks | owned |
| 18:47.41 | Mikk | The frame is already loaded by the time you get hold of its ref =) |
| 18:47.49 | mitch0 | oh |
| 18:48.04 | Mikk | I take that back |
| 18:48.07 | Darkkish | ew |
| 18:48.10 | mitch0 | so where do I register events? |
| 18:48.11 | Mikk | It will fire if it is used as a template |
| 18:48.14 | Darkkish | how do you guys code addons when the servers are down? |
| 18:48.24 | Mikk | Darkkish: live in europe ftw? |
| 18:48.26 | Tuks | make your own server |
| 18:48.32 | Antiarc|Work | Darkkish: Drycode! :D |
| 18:48.43 | Tuks | or just.. imagine |
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| 18:48.50 | NeoTron | so can a paladin that's speccedd enough prot to be a viable tank also heal? |
| 18:49.01 | NeoTron | or do paladins nowadays need quite a lot of holy to be viable healers? |
| 18:49.03 | mitch0 | I'm in .eu |
| 18:49.12 | Mikk | mitch0: you don't need to register that one at all. The line immediately following CreateFrame() is the same as OnLoad, really |
| 18:49.18 | Darkkish | oh, I don't think my wow client will do EU |
| 18:49.20 | kbh | i know a 40/21 pally who can tank heroics |
| 18:49.24 | Darkkish | or atleast i can't figure out how |
| 18:49.29 | Saladin | NeoTron: well, all paladins can heal with the right gear |
| 18:49.29 | Mikk | NeoTron: All pallies can heal reasonably well. It's more gear dependant than spec dependant. |
| 18:49.32 | Tuks | NeoTron: viable for 5 man non heoric yes.. anything else? no |
| 18:49.36 | mitch0 | so, I can RegisterForEvent() there immediately? |
| 18:49.39 | Saladin | but specs really do the difference sometimes |
| 18:49.46 | Saladin | at least to become a really effective healer |
| 18:49.49 | mitch0 | but I do have to SetScript(OnEvent, ...) right? |
| 18:49.50 | Mikk | Bolx. I've had prot and retridins mainheal heroics just fine. |
| 18:50.06 | Mikk | Paladins are the class least affected by spec for healnig |
| 18:50.13 | Tuks | er.. |
| 18:50.14 | Mikk | mitch0: correct |
| 18:50.22 | Tuks | i bet they were holy, got all karazna loot |
| 18:50.32 | Darkkish | would it be hard for me to get on an eu server? or impossible? |
| 18:50.35 | Mech0z | The new arcinventory changes are nice for hunters :) |
| 18:50.38 | Tuks | and then speced ret for shit and giggle, adn found themselves healing in a causal heoric ;) |
| 18:50.39 | Mikk | tuks: this was well before we started kharazan |
| 18:50.45 | mitch0 | and where should I register my slashcmds? |
| 18:50.55 | mitch0 | is it OK to reg them only at VARIABLES_LOADED? |
| 18:51.00 | Tuks | i heal heorics too, also karazan, as an elemental shaman, but just becouse i have nice healing gear |
| 18:51.02 | Mikk | Darkkish: go buy an EU account |
| 18:51.28 | Darkkish | lol damn. |
| 18:51.28 | Mikk | mitch0: you should never trigger on VARIABLES_LOADED. impossible to make your addon load on demand. |
| 18:51.33 | Tuks | if you put a ret paly on healing, with no gear, he will let the tank die in the first ull :( |
| 18:51.49 | Mikk | mitch0: ADDON_LOADED and testing if arg1=="MyAddonName" is how to go |
| 18:51.53 | mitch0 | gah. I'm lost then :) |
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| 18:51.56 | Darkkish | i swear i used to be able to get on oceanic servers, and i've never had an eu account |
| 18:52.02 | Mikk | But tbh you can register your slash commands whenever |
| 18:52.12 | ggilbert | oceanic are part of the US auth system, iirc |
| 18:52.15 | Mikk | ADDON_LOADED / VARIABLES_LOADED is only there to tell you that your savedvars are available |
| 18:52.30 | mitch0 | but I need VARIABLES_LOADED to set up some stuff based on the SavedVariables |
| 18:52.30 | Mikk | Darkkish: correct. oceanic servers are US |
| 18:52.37 | Mikk | mitch0: no, use ADDON_LOADED |
| 18:52.42 | Darkkish | oic |
| 18:52.47 | Mikk | it won't fire until vars are loaded |
| 18:52.57 | mitch0 | ah, ok |
| 18:53.01 | Mikk | On startup, it goes like this |
| 18:53.08 | mitch0 | (not that I'm about to make it LoD any time soon...) |
| 18:53.28 | Darkkish | well approx one hour til servers are back up then |
| 18:53.31 | *** mode/#wowace [+o Cair] by ChanServ |
| 18:53.48 | mitch0 | and ADDON_LOADED will be fired just once, right? |
| 18:53.48 | Mikk | mitch0: Whyever not? At the very least you should declare LoadManagers: AddonLoader and X-LoadOn-Always: true |
| 18:53.51 | nevcairiel | Saroz: does the debuff whitelist work even when show only curable is on? |
| 18:54.06 | Mikk | mitch0: ADDON_LOADED is fired lots of times. but only once with arg1=="MyAddonName" |
| 18:54.29 | mitch0 | jeebus. it's complicated :) |
| 18:54.52 | Mikk | Basically, it goes like this: Load all addons. Load savedvars. Fire ADDON_LOADED for all addons. Fire VARIABLES_LOADED. |
| 18:55.02 | Mikk | In-game, with LoD, you'll only get ADDON_LOADED |
| 18:55.07 | mitch0 | but you see, this addon is either enabled and then it'll be needed as soon as you target someone, or disabled and then it should be disabled from the addons page and be done with it |
| 18:55.26 | Azurewrath | baaah.... that crappy log function logged.. nothing... |
| 18:55.41 | mitch0 | what exactly is the point of making it LoD? |
| 18:55.44 | Mikk | mitch0: User-controlled LoD. Much better to just be able to hop into MCP/ACP and say "Load" then to log out, enable addon, log in |
| 18:56.14 | mitch0 | sounds sophisticated :) |
| 18:56.17 | Iceroth | AceLocale-2.2-40629 (Ace2):487: AceLocale(BigWigsPrince Malchezaar): Translation "enfeeble_warning" does not exist. |
| 18:56.25 | mitch0 | I expect my users to never want to disable my addon :) |
| 18:56.31 | Antiarc|Work | Azurewrath: The debugging thing? |
| 18:56.33 | kergoth | the blizzard addon enable/disable page sucks ass. i dont use it unless i absolutely have to. its flexibility is greatly limited |
| 18:56.39 | Antiarc|Work | Azurewrath: You do have ChatFrame5 visible, yes? |
| 18:56.43 | Antiarc|Work | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:56.49 | Mikk | mitch0: If nothing else, http://www.wowace.com/wiki/AddonLoader ## X-LoadOn-Always: delayed |
| 18:56.57 | Azurewrath | no no, that worked fine.. i meant the blizzard chatlog |
| 18:57.01 | Antiarc|Work | Ahhh. |
| 18:57.09 | Antiarc|Work | Can you take screens? |
| 18:57.11 | Mikk | This makes the addon load AFTER you've logged in, making the initial loading process shorter. This is a Good Thing (tm). =) |
| 18:57.17 | kergoth | Mikk: can it do delayed for other conditions yet? (i.e. NotRested) |
| 18:57.26 | Mikk | kergoth: no |
| 18:57.30 | kergoth | k |
| 18:57.45 | Azurewrath | i did a reloadui cause i thought it would write the damn log then, like with savedvars.. now it's lost.. i'll make screenshots after the next try |
| 18:57.46 | Mikk | kergoth: http://www.wowace.com/wiki/Talk:AddonLoader <-- feel free to add brainpower |
| 18:58.21 | kergoth | will do |
| 18:58.46 | mitch0 | mikk: but does it mean that if I make it LoD, users will need this AddonLoader to be installed as well? |
| 18:58.52 | kergoth | no |
| 18:59.07 | Antiarc|Work | Heh, okay. |
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| 19:00.34 | Iceroth | ckknight_, pitbull has some problems with updates: i left party and the master looter icon is still visible in my frame, sometimes in pvp target power bar color doesn't change when i target different enemy, and when wiping at tempest keep instances and spawning at the gy with full health, my health bar is empty but the text shows corret 100% |
| 19:01.11 | Darkkish | i guess the servers just opened? |
| 19:01.17 | Darkkish | an hour early |
| 19:01.24 | NeoTron | I'm mostly thinking primarily healing in raid, but being better suited than the average paladin to tank for example morogrim adds |
| 19:01.34 | NeoTron | because I can honestly not see a 100% tank spot for a paladin in a raid |
| 19:01.36 | kbh | Darkkish: only a handfull it seems |
| 19:01.39 | mitch0 | mikk: still around? |
| 19:01.51 | Tuks | lets see, who wants to make a simple addon at demand? its simple, should'nt take more than 1 hour |
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| 19:02.11 | Tuks | i need a ranking of interrupts for "Shade of Aran" fight |
| 19:02.39 | kenlyric | ? |
| 19:02.42 | mitch0 | I don't even understand the request :) so I pass on that |
| 19:02.45 | jme | i haven't fought shade yet |
| 19:02.53 | kenlyric | there are only 3 |
| 19:02.56 | jme | only up to curator.. |
| 19:02.58 | kenlyric | and one of them you don't interrupt |
| 19:02.59 | Tuks | have you fought shade mitch? |
| 19:03.00 | kenlyric | how hard can it be? |
| 19:03.04 | alext | firstbolt / frostbolt / ignore arcane |
| 19:03.06 | mitch0 | nope |
| 19:03.11 | alext | rogues kick / warriors pummel |
| 19:03.12 | alext | etc etc |
| 19:03.15 | alext | etc etc and more etc |
| 19:03.18 | Tuks | yup |
| 19:03.25 | Tuks | i need a ranking, with |
| 19:03.28 | Arrowmaster | rogue kicks are the best because they last the longest |
| 19:03.31 | jme | etc^10109238 |
| 19:03.32 | ggilbert | we're lazy and tend to forget to interrupt him :p |
| 19:03.45 | kenlyric | ggilbert: you better burn him down pretty quick then. |
| 19:03.49 | jme | curator is a stupidly easy fight |
| 19:03.51 | Tuks | name: frostbolt: 4 fireball: 4 .... |
| 19:03.59 | ggilbert | that's usually the plan |
| 19:04.05 | mitch0 | so who else is at home about this LoD stuff? mikk left me confused :) |
| 19:04.07 | jme | "here, have some free t4" |
| 19:04.10 | NeoTron | we usually kill aran before his elementals despawn now |
| 19:04.15 | NeoTron | and long before he drinks :) |
| 19:04.32 | Tuks | depends on your group gear |
| 19:04.33 | Arrowmaster | we skiped him this week |
| 19:04.33 | kenlyric | curator is stupidly easy only when you learn how to focus dps on a changing target. |
| 19:04.35 | Antiarc|Work | I'd argue that Shaman shocks are the best because you can have one every 5 sec. |
| 19:04.42 | mitch0 | I usually kill Hogger before he agros :) |
| 19:04.43 | kenlyric | you'd be shocked to know the number of guilds that can't do that. |
| 19:04.45 | Tuks | but if you manage to interrupt every damn single spell, no good gear is needed |
| 19:04.47 | NeoTron | kick is every 5s too |
| 19:04.50 | Antiarc|Work | Kick's 10 sec. |
| 19:04.52 | Antiarc|Work | <-- main's a rogue |
| 19:04.54 | jme | kenlyric: :x |
| 19:04.57 | Antiarc|Work | Also, rogues get to fight with the GCD and energy ticks for kick viability. |
| 19:04.57 | NeoTron | ah |
| 19:04.57 | Tuks | 10 sec |
| 19:04.57 | NeoTron | ok |
| 19:05.05 | Tuks | shaman shoks are 6sec, 5 if speced |
| 19:05.07 | NeoTron | because shamans don't? :P |
| 19:05.12 | Tuks | well, anyone interested on making that? |
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| 19:05.19 | NeoTron | is it true that mage CS doesn't depend on the global cooldown/ |
| 19:05.20 | jme | kenlyric: we've cleared kara 3 or 4 times i think.. i've only been in as far as curator so far though (twice) |
| 19:05.31 | Antiarc|Work | Ele shamans don't so much, no. No energy ticks to worry about, and if they're lightning bolting they can interrupt their cast to drop an ES. |
| 19:05.31 | ggilbert | Yeah, cs isn't on the gcd |
| 19:05.39 | Antiarc|Work | CS is also 24 sec CD though, right? |
| 19:05.48 | kbh | 24 yep |
| 19:05.49 | NeoTron | Antiarc|Work: GC |
| 19:05.55 | kenlyric | Tuks, if you interrupt every spell, he's going to drink. |
| 19:06.02 | Tuks | er.. not |
| 19:06.05 | kbh | he dosent drink, he melees |
| 19:06.08 | Tuks | i mean |
| 19:06.09 | kenlyric | and you need halfway decent gear on squishies for them to survive the blast wave thingy. |
| 19:06.11 | Tuks | no arnace |
| 19:06.14 | kenlyric | kbh: that too. |
| 19:06.21 | BankZZ | Does Violation_EffectiveHealing filter out ooc data, or just overhealing? |
| 19:06.26 | NeoTron | him meleeing is pretty nasty for a clothie |
| 19:06.41 | Tuks | i want a ranking becouse we do 2 groups, frost and fire, and i want to know whos not interrupting, or who is interrupting the wrong spell |
| 19:06.43 | Mikk | mitch0: no, they don't need AddonLoader installed. If mods listed under "LoadManagers:" are not available, the addon will load normally. |
| 19:06.48 | kenlyric | Tuks: if you need a mod to cordinate the interrruption fo *2* spells, your guild might want to call it quits now. |
| 19:06.54 | CIA-22 | 03vincent * r42637 10WeaponRebuff/ (18 files in 3 dirs): |
| 19:06.54 | CIA-22 | WeaponRebuff: |
| 19:06.54 | CIA-22 | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:07.05 | kenlyric | becuase, it's going to get more complicated :) |
| 19:07.09 | Tuks | er.. idont need it.. but im the raid leader, and i want to see whos comiting errors :) |
| 19:07.10 | mitch0 | mikk: ic, thanks |
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| 19:07.17 | Tuks | to fix it, or damn.. kick the idiot |
| 19:07.39 | mitch0 | so, basically, I'll have to do my stuff in ADDON_LOADED, but check first arg, and do some magic in TOC, right? |
| 19:07.54 | jme | heh, me and this 70 pally tank ran a few 60/61's through ramps last night... we could've 2 manned it |
| 19:08.07 | jme | :( |
| 19:08.19 | Mikk | ADDON_LOADED: if arg1=="MyAddonName" then do init stuff .... |
| 19:08.24 | Mikk | TOC: |
| 19:08.27 | Mikk | <PROTECTED> |
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| 19:08.46 | Mikk | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:08.51 | Mikk | that's it |
| 19:09.17 | Mikk | I should put that in the wiki page for addonloader i suppose |
| 19:09.21 | mitch0 | what does delayed do? |
| 19:09.36 | mitch0 | sec afk |
| 19:10.57 | jme | i love how blizz has been having problems every single maintenance day for the last month |
| 19:11.17 | jme | armory down? check. servers still down? check. |
| 19:11.27 | jme | forums down because everyone that isn't playing floods them? check |
| 19:11.28 | kenlyric | a WWS report on shade will show you who used their interrupt ability. |
| 19:11.39 | CIA-22 | 03vincent * r42638 10WeaponRebuff/: |
| 19:11.39 | CIA-22 | WeaponRebuff: |
| 19:11.40 | CIA-22 | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:11.41 | kenlyric | jme: are you new to this game? |
| 19:11.44 | mitch0 | ah, I see |
| 19:11.44 | jme | kenlyric: no |
| 19:11.47 | kenlyric | ok. |
| 19:11.48 | NightHawkAtWork | I love how every every idiot thinks they know better than blizzard. |
| 19:11.50 | jme | kenlyric: it's just getting old. |
| 19:11.58 | kenlyric | replace "last month" with "forever" |
| 19:12.10 | jme | kenlyric: i never really paid attention until lately though :( |
| 19:12.12 | mitch0 | mikk, but this delayed could kinda screw me as I might miss an important event |
| 19:12.25 | [Ammo] | Cryect: on the dps thing, violation used to measure dps done during combattime for players |
| 19:12.28 | kenlyric | well, the forums used to lock during maint |
| 19:12.37 | [Ammo] | but this is just fine |
| 19:12.53 | mitch0 | mikk: I need MEETINGSTONE_CHANGED to initialize ranges from spell tooltips |
| 19:12.54 | kenlyric | and their website went to low stress mode, which the armory is... not. |
| 19:13.43 | Tuks | kenlyric WWS report? whats that? |
| 19:13.55 | Saint-N | NightHawkAtWork: but i DO know better than blizzard |
| 19:14.00 | mitch0 | ah, I can do that with X-LoadOnEvents: magic |
| 19:14.04 | Saint-N | why ive programmed games way better! |
| 19:14.16 | Saint-N | like my SNAFU game and my advanced nibbler game! |
| 19:14.22 | Saint-N | way more indepth ;) |
| 19:14.24 | mitch0 | but then I need to pollute the global namespace a bit |
| 19:14.55 | Saint-N | give a hoot don't pollute |
| 19:15.09 | CIA-22 | 03vincent * r42639 10WeaponRebuff/: Removed file/folder |
| 19:15.12 | Mikk | http://www.wowace.com/wiki/AddonLoader <-- whewt! howto! |
| 19:15.21 | Mikk | mitch0: urhmmm... MEETINGSTONE_CHANGED to initialize ranges? wtf |
| 19:15.22 | mitch0 | mikk: :) |
| 19:15.42 | NeoTron | hmm unexpected turn of events |
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| 19:15.48 | mitch0 | mikk: it's 'cos on PLAYER_ALIVE the spell tooltips are not yet updated with talent changes |
| 19:15.51 | sbu | baahhh |
| 19:15.56 | sbu | tidewalker... gnnnol |
| 19:16.02 | NeoTron | seems I might have the opportunity to get my old paladin back .. |
| 19:16.05 | mitch0 | and MEETINGSTONE_CHANGED seems to work for this... *shrug* |
| 19:16.12 | Mikk | urgh |
| 19:16.16 | NeoTron | sbu: 5 locks and 2 mages did the trick >:-) |
| 19:16.17 | sbu | need hints for tidewalker :/ |
| 19:16.17 | Mikk | that's iffy as hell just so you know |
| 19:16.24 | sbu | NeoTron: 4 mages, 2 locks... |
| 19:16.29 | mitch0 | mikk: I know... |
| 19:16.32 | NeoTron | and two paladins in defensive gear trying to hold aggro |
| 19:16.50 | jme | no love for huntards |
| 19:16.50 | NeoTron | pre-load seed of corruption - at least 3 per lock |
| 19:16.58 | NeoTron | then frost nova/aoe and keep them frost novad |
| 19:16.59 | mitch0 | I don't know if there's any guarantee that it's always called... dunno what happens if you log on a zone where there are no meetingstones whatsoever |
| 19:17.04 | NeoTron | with 4 mages they shouldn't be moving |
| 19:17.25 | NeoTron | and have the paladin tanks, if that's what you're using, stand outside the maing roup.. or they will beat on ppl when frost novad |
| 19:17.35 | Mikk | mitch0: gotta be a better event for that... and tbh you could just try and scan when the addon loads too - that'll solve it for LoD |
| 19:17.40 | NeoTron | locks aer likely to pull aggro so they don't want to be in melee range |
| 19:17.48 | xyu | how do i "demand" prat to be loaded >< |
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| 19:17.59 | mitch0 | oh, but MEETINGSTONE_CHANGED is needed for the library part, that will not be LoadOnDemand. problem solved :) |
| 19:18.08 | xyu | i have to disable all that LoD crap :/ |
| 19:18.20 | Antiarc|Work | Tell Prat that you're going to count to three, and if it isn't loaded, then so help you God... |
| 19:18.30 | xyu | oh i've tried threats! |
| 19:18.49 | mitch0 | xyu: Threat-1.0 is beta :) |
| 19:18.59 | Antiarc|Work | Are there any EU folks available to test mob translation stuff? |
| 19:19.06 | Antiarc|Work | I'm really paranoid that it isn't working now :( |
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| 19:20.56 | mitch0 | mikk: but I can't decide if it's updated or not just by scanning |
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| 19:21.13 | xyu | ^_^ |
| 19:21.23 | mitch0 | mikk: but anyway, as I said, I'll make the lib part always loaded. it's tiny anyway |
| 19:21.33 | cubicool | Is anyone here aware of a BLP "tool" for Linux? Particularly one which will allow me to view the raw image data (perhaps by converting it into something more managable)? |
| 19:21.38 | Strigoi | [Ammo] any chance you could implement the feature like "show burst dps" and if unckecked it simply show sustained DPS. If I understand correctly it shouldn't require allot of effort in coding or affect performance). It's like the only feature i miss in Violation :) |
| 19:21.48 | [Ammo] | not atm |
| 19:21.51 | Antiarc|Work | cubicool: I know there's a BLP<->PNG converter written in JAva |
| 19:22.02 | Strigoi | okey |
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| 19:22.05 | Antiarc|Work | http://wow-en.curse-gaming.com/downloads/details/1436/ |
| 19:22.11 | mitch0 | if BLP is an image format, convert(1) could probably handle it |
| 19:22.22 | [Ammo] | modules might get their own option tables |
| 19:22.23 | mitch0 | part of ImageMagik |
| 19:22.25 | [Ammo] | and then that is possible |
| 19:22.34 | [Ammo] | but it would be only a display thing and would need to work iwth the broadcasting |
| 19:22.34 | Antiarc|Work | BLP's a proprietary format |
| 19:22.42 | Antiarc|Work | So I doubt ImageMagick handles it |
| 19:22.52 | cubicool | Nothing in Linux would handle it natively. |
| 19:23.16 | Strigoi | modules for violation sounds great tbh |
| 19:23.48 | mitch0 | oh. |
| 19:24.28 | Mikk | mitch0: try SKILL_LINES_CHANGED |
| 19:24.55 | mitch0 | never even heard about that :) |
| 19:24.57 | mitch0 | will give it a shot |
| 19:25.48 | Mikk | hrm no that's not quite right either |
| 19:26.03 | cubicool | Er, I'm pretty sure this Java app won't work in Linux either. *sigh* Why in the world would someone make it Drag-And-Drop? |
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| 19:26.23 | [Ammo] | Strigoi: violation is completely module based |
| 19:26.32 | [Ammo] | so you could easily write a 'combat dps' module |
| 19:27.17 | mitch0 | mikk: sorry for being dumb, but what other lines are needed in toc for Lod? ## LoadOnDemand: 1, ## AddonLoader: AddonLoader ? (my scrollback buffer is too small :) |
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| 19:27.28 | Mikk | not LoadOnDemand |
| 19:27.44 | Mikk | See http://www.wowace.com/wiki/AddonLoader |
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| 19:27.57 | mitch0 | I've read it, but it only talks about the X-... stuff |
| 19:28.05 | Mikk | Reload it |
| 19:28.11 | mitch0 | cheater :) |
| 19:28.37 | ckknight_ | sbu: oh yea, the modifiers (glancing, crushing, overheal, etc.) will be added to Parrot |
| 19:28.40 | Antiarc|Work | Azurewrath: Any screens I could look at yet? |
| 19:28.45 | ckknight_ | [Liquidor]: pong |
| 19:28.49 | Azurewrath | jup, gimme a sec |
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| 19:30.20 | mitch0 | mikk: and what was wrong with SKILL_LINES_CHANGED? |
| 19:30.49 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r42640 10DogTag-1.0/DogTag-1.0/DogTag-1.0.lua: |
| 19:30.49 | CIA-22 | DogTag-1.0 - change PvPRank to use data from UnitPVPName instead of UnitPVPRank. This will make it actually work for Arena titles and the like. |
| 19:30.49 | CIA-22 | - also deprecating PvPRankNum, as it always returns 0 |
| 19:31.08 | Mikk | mitch0: well.. it's just not related to talents |
| 19:31.21 | Antiarc|Work | ckknight: Someone was saying that UnitSex tags in DogTag were borked |
| 19:31.22 | mitch0 | it doesn't have to be |
| 19:31.34 | ckknight | SchmoZz: I didn't include Neuter on purpose, it was meant to return nil in that case |
| 19:31.43 | kergoth | how are hunters in the arena? mine's up to 66 now, thinking about trying it with him |
| 19:31.50 | mitch0 | mikk: I just need an event that is fired late enough for the talent info to be propagated into the tooltip texts... |
| 19:32.08 | Mikk | mitch0: yer, but it'd be nice to have one that reacts to your talents changing too wouldnt it? =P |
| 19:32.11 | mitch0 | and is surely fired near the beginning |
| 19:32.19 | mitch0 | it does, that one is solved |
| 19:32.20 | ckknight | Antiarc|Work: yea, checking it out now |
| 19:32.34 | mitch0 | but that event is not fired on load, only when you change talents |
| 19:32.38 | Mikk | mitch0: were you using PLAYER_ALIVE earlier you said? |
| 19:32.52 | mitch0 | yep |
| 19:33.00 | Mikk | that one is not fired a whole hell of a lot |
| 19:33.06 | mitch0 | returned untalented info |
| 19:33.34 | mitch0 | was pre-patch though, might give it a try again |
| 19:33.42 | Mikk | actually what i think you want to do |
| 19:33.49 | Mikk | is simply not use an event at all |
| 19:33.50 | mitch0 | but first I have to get this mess into something resembling a working mod :) |
| 19:33.53 | Mikk | just do it in OnUpdate |
| 19:34.03 | Mikk | first OnUpdate you see, go read stuff |
| 19:34.28 | mitch0 | but the lib part doesn't really have a visible frame, so no OnUpdates for that I guess |
| 19:34.31 | Strigoi | [Ammo] my skills in lua isn't that great but I will try it for sure :) |
| 19:34.54 | trh | lol |
| 19:35.10 | trh | "ATI cards are like buses..." "They're huge, red and have bad drivers." |
| 19:35.16 | Mikk | mitch0: blahframe = CreateFrame("Frame"); blahframe:SetScript("OnUpdate", function() do stuf .... blahframe:SetScript("OnUpdate", nil) end; |
| 19:35.20 | mitch0 | ckk: someone was here earlier reporting some problem with UnitSex in dogtag, there was some forum post about it as well. |
| 19:35.33 | Mikk | mitch0: he saw |
| 19:35.34 | Strigoi | trh haha :) |
| 19:35.41 | mitch0 | ah, ok |
| 19:35.48 | ckknight | mitch0: yea, saw it |
| 19:36.36 | mitch0 | mikk: I'll check with the onupdate version. I'm not 100% sure it'll return correct data though... |
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| 19:36.59 | Bigshot | slt |
| 19:37.01 | Mikk | well, all useful init will be done by the time the first onupdate fires |
| 19:37.20 | Mikk | and you're guaranteed an onupdate too. it's not going to go away or get fired at another time in the next version of wow |
| 19:37.39 | Bigshot | somebody speak french? |
| 19:37.42 | mitch0 | that part is true. the first part I'm not sure about |
| 19:37.45 | mitch0 | will check |
| 19:37.50 | Mikk | mm true |
| 19:38.05 | Bigshot | ?? |
| 19:38.56 | Kaelten | Bigshot, why? |
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| 19:39.22 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r42641 10DogTag-1.0/DogTag-1.0/DogTag-1.0.lua: DogTag-1.0 - make localization easier |
| 19:39.33 | ckknight | Bigshot: apparently not |
| 19:40.51 | Cheads | ckknight is your combat text addon in a useable state yet? =) |
| 19:41.15 | ckknight | Cheads: nah, give it another day |
| 19:41.15 | ckknight | or later today |
| 19:41.15 | ckknight | one of those |
| 19:41.24 | Cheads | sounds nice =) |
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| 19:42.10 | Cheads | parrot was the name =) |
| 19:42.14 | Strigoi | ckknight how's Saussege |
| 19:42.17 | Strigoi | ;p |
| 19:42.24 | ckknight | Strigoi: called Parrot |
| 19:42.30 | mitch0 | can this be done: local a = func() stuff end; local b = func() b = a end ? |
| 19:42.52 | ckknight | yea |
| 19:42.52 | Mikk | mitch0: yes |
| 19:43.08 | ckknight | then b(); b() will run a |
| 19:43.26 | mitch0 | good |
| 19:43.57 | RaydenUni | how does Pitbull use Omen? |
| 19:44.01 | RaydenUni | or Threat? |
| 19:44.23 | Antiarc|Work | It has a module that shows relative threat on your target, I believe. |
| 19:44.25 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r42642 10DogTag-1.0/DogTag-1.0/DogTag-1.0.lua: DogTag-1.0 - change [Sex] to check the right return values. |
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| 19:44.29 | Mikk | display your threat vs TT's threat or something |
| 19:44.38 | ckknight | RaydenUni: two ways: (1) DogTag uses it (2) there's a threat bar |
| 19:44.40 | mitch0 | so, is this ## LoadOnDemand: 0 stuff totally deprecated then? |
| 19:44.47 | RaydenUni | dogtag? |
| 19:44.48 | Strigoi | ckknight yeah I know Just wonderring how's it going so far :) |
| 19:45.04 | Mikk | mitch0: nono, it's totally used still. but tagging something "LoadOnDemand: 1" means it will not be loaded until something loads it, period. |
| 19:45.17 | Mikk | "LoadManagers:" means it'll be loaded if there's nothing around to load it |
| 19:45.17 | ckknight | Strigoi: peachy |
| 19:45.31 | ckknight | RaydenUni: the tag system, e.g. [Threat] and such |
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| 19:45.50 | RaydenUni | ace updater is crashing a lot fo rme |
| 19:45.52 | mitch0 | so I should have both LoD: 0 and LM: , right? |
| 19:45.55 | RaydenUni | and by a lot i mean twice int he last week |
| 19:45.57 | Strigoi | can you check http://img504.imageshack.us/img504/4236/wow2007070303405551mo5.jpg this screen pretty wired behaving of CowTip |
| 19:46.07 | Mikk | mitch0: no need to mention LoD at all |
| 19:46.23 | Strigoi | hapens only with "Orgrimmar bank" board though |
| 19:46.26 | mitch0 | default is 0 then, right? |
| 19:46.41 | ckknight | Strigoi: that's kinda funky |
| 19:46.41 | Mikk | mitch0: correct |
| 19:46.42 | Strigoi | *or "Bank of orgrimmar" eevn |
| 19:47.27 | Strigoi | ckknight it's being there for quite a while happens when you mouseover mailbox and then switch to this board fast |
| 19:47.57 | ckknight | hrm |
| 19:48.16 | Strigoi | I thought it's faiding issue, but evenwith disabled fading effect this bug still exists |
| 19:49.04 | RaydenUni | what are the rogue poison mods you guys recommended? |
| 19:49.05 | RaydenUni | atrophine? |
| 19:49.06 | ckknight | appearance issue |
| 19:49.09 | ckknight | not sure why, though |
| 19:49.37 | RaydenUni | atropine |
| 19:50.17 | Antiarc|Work | I recommend Hemlock >_> |
| 19:50.21 | Antiarc|Work | But I'm biased. |
| 19:50.24 | RaydenUni | dangit now i can't find atropine |
| 19:50.25 | RaydenUni | why is that? |
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| 19:50.49 | Bloodspirit | hey ppl |
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| 19:51.57 | ckknight | hey Bloodspirit |
| 19:52.06 | Bloodspirit | im new to mod creation and i would like to know if anyone can tell me how i can find out if my char has battleshout on or not? |
| 19:52.17 | stavmar | have the cartographer same locale more than once errors been fixed? |
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| 19:52.22 | ckknight | Bloodspirit: you iterate through the buffs for "player" |
| 19:52.39 | ckknight | Bloodspirit: check out the buff section of the API on wowwiki |
| 19:52.46 | Bloodspirit | oki ill try that! |
| 19:52.55 | ckknight | stavmar: that would've only been caused if you had multiple copies of a module |
| 19:53.01 | ckknight | stavmar: i.e. your own fault |
| 19:53.19 | stavmar | i used teh WAU 2.0 downloader maybe it is something with that |
| 19:53.45 | ckknight | likely |
| 19:53.58 | Ixan | no pvp-module in bigwigs? |
| 19:54.35 | Funkeh` | why would there be |
| 19:54.39 | Funkeh` | its a boss mod |
| 19:55.33 | Funkeh` | try reading the README file |
| 19:55.42 | Antiarc|Work | What if there's a PVP enemy that hits like a boss? |
| 19:55.49 | Chompers | we're trying magtheridon, could a dps warrior tank a channeler? |
| 19:55.56 | Chompers | with sword/board |
| 19:55.57 | Funkeh` | sure |
| 19:56.02 | Funkeh` | with proper prot gear |
| 19:56.04 | Mikk | $WARLOCK IS CASTING SHADOWBOLT! RUN! |
| 19:56.20 | cotangent | we often have a dps warrior on the second channeler |
| 19:56.24 | Mikk | Chompers: later channelers hit harder. the first few can be tanked by whatever. |
| 19:56.24 | Chompers | fuck, i dont want to wear prot gear for the whole fight :< |
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| 19:56.26 | Cryect | heh yeah you definately don't need all prot warriors for magtheridon :-p |
| 19:56.28 | cotangent | wow druid on the first just for better aggro |
| 19:56.34 | Mikk | Chompers: stick ferlols on them |
| 19:56.57 | Mikk | they can tank em just fine in dpsy gear in bearform |
| 19:57.03 | cotangent | heck I am prot and if I'm not MTing I put on some dps gear |
| 19:57.11 | BankZZ | Does Violation_EffectiveHealing filter out ooc data, or just overhealing? |
| 19:57.20 | *** part/#wowace cubicool (n=cubicool@router.emperor-sw2.exsbs.net) |
| 19:57.31 | Funkeh` | read the description |
| 19:57.38 | Funkeh` | its pretty clear |
| 19:58.02 | Ixan | ok. I'll try to find something a little more pvpish |
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| 19:58.49 | Funkeh` | ixan, did you actually read it? |
| 19:58.54 | Funkeh` | i don't think you did |
| 19:59.06 | Mikk | Funkeh`: you're being an ass now :P |
| 19:59.09 | Bam__ | rjp: ping :) |
| 19:59.13 | Ixan | didn't pretend to read it either biatch! |
| 19:59.20 | Funkeh` | Mikk: people don't read enough |
| 19:59.43 | BankZZ | Funkeh`: You dont have to be an ass, all it says is effective but thought I saw somethng about OOC |
| 19:59.44 | Mikk | Funkeh`: lesson #1 in information management :> |
| 19:59.59 | Ixan | I see your reasoning, so no need to |
| 20:00.09 | Funkeh` | BankZZ: it was clear enough for me |
| 20:00.16 | Mikk | And tbh Violation_EffectiveHealings' description isn't very clear to me |
| 20:00.23 | Mikk | Since I don't know how SWStats measures healing |
| 20:00.24 | BankZZ | "Adds an EffectiveHealing module (a la SWStats) to Violation (PProvost)" |
| 20:01.02 | Mikk | Instead of "a la SWStats" it could have said "does not include overhealing or OOC healing" |
| 20:01.07 | Mikk | _That's_ good info |
| 20:01.13 | BankZZ | Effective is just no overhealing in SWS |
| 20:01.22 | Funkeh` | read the commit message then /shrug |
| 20:01.35 | Mikk | Oh yeah good idea. All users read commit messages. |
| 20:01.43 | Mikk | </slightly sarcastic> |
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| 20:02.07 | BankZZ | ok, so my answer is, no ooc or overhealing |
| 20:02.08 | NightHawkAtWork | Hey, I agree with Funkeh`. I'd even go so far as to say "the code is available, learn and read it." :P |
| 20:02.09 | Funkeh` | why shouldn't they |
| 20:02.16 | Funkeh` | then they come bitching to us because something is broken |
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| 20:02.31 | Funkeh` | when they could have read the commit message which usually explains things quite well |
| 20:02.33 | Mikk | Joe user doesn't even know that there's something called "commit messages" to be read |
| 20:02.45 | Funkeh` | well then joe user needs to learn |
| 20:02.51 | Funkeh` | show teach them |
| 20:02.51 | Mikk | hahaha |
| 20:02.53 | Funkeh` | so* |
| 20:03.04 | Funkeh` | don't fuck around and jsut spoil them by telling them |
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| 20:03.20 | Funkeh` | then joe user remains joe user |
| 20:03.32 | Funkeh` | instead of gaining 1 IQ |
| 20:03.35 | Mikk | Bitching about people not reading something that's in effect hidden in a back closet in a cellar room where the light is broken is ... a bit silly imo :P |
| 20:03.54 | cotangent | beware the leopard |
| 20:03.55 | Mikk | When you could just save yourself the grief by putting relevant info in plain sight |
| 20:03.56 | Funkeh` | yeah because the main root of the addon saying CHANGELOG is really dark |
| 20:04.31 | Funkeh` | Mikk: retards remain retards when you jsut 'tell them' |
| 20:04.44 | Mikk | I fully agree |
| 20:04.57 | Mikk | But the problem with your reasoning is that there's more retards in the world than I cba to teach to fish |
| 20:05.04 | BankZZ | wow Funkeh is full of himself |
| 20:05.15 | NightHawkAtWork | maybe he is, but he's right. |
| 20:05.27 | Funkeh` | Mikk: thats not reasoning, it much better to tell 5000 people to read a changelog than to tell 5000 what the problem is |
| 20:05.34 | NightHawkAtWork | If you can't be bothered to go out of your way and learn, why should he be bothered to go out of his way to help you? :P |
| 20:05.46 | BankZZ | What that he tells ppl to go read something when it doesnt answer the question? |
| 20:06.01 | cotangent | Yes," said Arthur, "yes I did. It was on display in the bottom of a locked filing cabinet stuck in a disused lavatory with a sign on the door saying 'Beware of the Leopard' |
| 20:06.15 | BankZZ | and tries to be little others to feel good about himself? |
| 20:06.22 | Gnancy | BankZZ: is telling someone to read something an insult? |
| 20:06.29 | Mikk | My point is that by putting the information about what an addon does in the "Description" field, where bloody anyone expects to find the Description of the addon, saves you the grief of telling people how to read commit notes as well as explaining what the addon does |
| 20:06.32 | Mikk | Tadaa |
| 20:06.33 | Mikk | Simple |
| 20:06.53 | BankZZ | Gnancy: no throwing around words like "retards" |
| 20:06.57 | Funkeh` | Mikk: i agree |
| 20:07.00 | NightHawkAtWork | BankZZ: I imagine he (like myself) belittls other people not to feel good about himself, but because they deserve it. :P |
| 20:07.19 | NightHawkAtWork | s/ttls/ttles/ |
| 20:07.42 | Kaelten | http://youtube.com/watch?v=ZbbxA8a_M_s |
| 20:08.09 | kenlyric | The description tag is no place for descriptions. |
| 20:08.16 | Mikk | There's also the whole law of least resistance thing. If it's easier for me to just ask in the IRC channel what something does, rather than scout around for possible places where this information could be.. or not ... I'm going to ask in the IRC channel. |
| 20:09.05 | Mikk | Plus, people just want their addon fix and then go back and play. They don't want to learn about commit notes and changelogs. If you try to teach em something, they'll just say fuckit and go back and play... or use another addon with more accessible info. |
| 20:09.11 | Mikk | And then what was the point of publishing in the first place |
| 20:09.45 | kenlyric | wowinterface.com has good descriptions |
| 20:09.50 | Mikk | I'll readily admit to being guilty of this myself in various circumstances. |
| 20:09.58 | kenlyric | they're usually really long winded. |
| 20:11.07 | Gnancy | hmm you are right BankZZ that is insulting however if you are insulted why stay and agrue the point. generally you are not going to make someone else do what you wish by typing stuff over a message board. heck its hard enough to changes someones mind right in front of you |
| 20:11.09 | Mikk | If I'm going on a business trip, I'll just call the travel agency and tell em to book me tickets+hotels. I could probably make the trip a little shorter and cheaper by going out of my way for the better part of the day by checking up on two dozen airline web sites, local hotel rosters, etc etc |
| 20:11.13 | kenlyric | and wait, what? the healing module isn't in violation anymore? sounds dirty. |
| 20:11.18 | Mikk | Guess what: I won't. |
| 20:12.42 | RaydenUni | hemlock is atropine? |
| 20:12.45 | RaydenUni | it says atropine on the window |
| 20:12.52 | Kaelten | Shopping around blows in general |
| 20:13.08 | Bam__ | atropine? |
| 20:13.09 | kenlyric | now I'm really confused. |
| 20:13.11 | MoonWolf | and money reserves |
| 20:13.13 | Bam__ | is that some drug? :D |
| 20:13.15 | kenlyric | violation already had effective healing in it. |
| 20:13.19 | BankZZ | The effective healing and healing seems to be the same |
| 20:13.35 | MoonWolf | its a heart related drgu i think |
| 20:13.50 | Bam__ | really? |
| 20:13.56 | BankZZ | they are both showing the healing ooc but no overhealing |
| 20:14.02 | MoonWolf | # |
| 20:14.02 | MoonWolf | # An alkaloid derived from belladonna (from the deadly night-shade plant). It is a respiratory and circulatory stimulant and counteracts parasympathetic stimulation. Hence, it relaxes non-voluntary muscles and inhibits secretions by acting as a false transmitter preventing acetylcholine action. |
| 20:14.13 | kenlyric | BankZZ: sounds retarded to have two ;) |
| 20:14.30 | CIA-22 | 03ammo * r42643 10Violation/Violation.lua: Violation: bugfix when logging into a raid |
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| 20:14.42 | *** mode/#wowace [+v ZealotOnAStick] by ChanServ |
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| 20:15.09 | MoonWolf | it does, but i use both violation and recap |
| 20:15.10 | jme | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/interceptor.html?interceptedURL=http://www.videogamesblogger.com/2007/04/15/new-world-of-warcraft-northrend-based-expansion-pack-expected.htm |
| 20:15.14 | jme | errr |
| 20:15.14 | MoonWolf | i'm addicted to information |
| 20:15.16 | MoonWolf | and a minimalist |
| 20:15.18 | MoonWolf | woe is me. |
| 20:15.22 | jme | http://www.videogamesblogger.com/2007/04/15/new-world-of-warcraft-northrend-based-expansion-pack-expected.htm |
| 20:15.22 | ZealotOnAStick | Please ping me if my client decides to spit out spam or porn ads or something. |
| 20:15.25 | jme | <- fail |
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| 20:15.34 | BankZZ | Im guessing its just a bug |
| 20:15.39 | kergoth | MoonWolf: try assessment or recount? both have more detail than violation does |
| 20:15.40 | ZealotOnAStick | I'm basically running this to wait and see if it happens again, or if it's gone. |
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| 20:15.56 | MoonWolf | i keep arund violation for quick running stats during combat |
| 20:16.07 | MoonWolf | and recap for personal stuff and after combat anylising. |
| 20:16.29 | MoonWolf | the biggest problem is that no other addon that i know off has the recap personal stuff |
| 20:16.42 | jme | level 80+.. man that is going to suck rerolling |
| 20:16.43 | MoonWolf | you know actual recorded crits hit miss avg dmg per attack etc |
| 20:16.53 | ZealotOnAStick | 4Paris Hilton Exposed !!! 40 min of pure 7hardcore.. Dont beleive ? Check This http://www.paris-porn.cjb.net http://192.168.1.4:2469/me.scr |
| 20:16.54 | Kaelten | jme? |
| 20:17.01 | jme | Kaelten: see link i pasted |
| 20:17.03 | kenlyric | lol |
| 20:17.09 | *** kick/#wowace [ZealotOnAStick!n=kaelten@69.109.103.158] by Kaelten (Kaelten) |
| 20:17.16 | jme | haha |
| 20:17.19 | MoonWolf | hey, i was finding the kick menu option |
| 20:17.20 | Kaelten | no spamming |
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| 20:17.28 | *** mode/#wowace [+v ZealotOnAStick] by ChanServ |
| 20:17.29 | ckknight | he's still hacked? |
| 20:17.30 | xyu | infected by Paris STDs |
| 20:17.32 | MoonWolf | for some reaons all the kick/ban options are listed before kick itself. |
| 20:17.33 | ZealotOnAStick | ok, was afraid of that. |
| 20:17.34 | ckknight | ZealotOnAStick: stop being hacked. |
| 20:17.35 | ZealotOnAStick | logging out then. |
| 20:17.45 | mikma | wut, that's neat |
| 20:17.50 | kenlyric | insert CD. Boot from CD. New Install? Y |
| 20:17.51 | ZealotOnAStick | I'm on my 4th different virus scan. |
| 20:17.51 | snurre | lol @ zealot |
| 20:17.53 | Kaelten | ~comfort ZealotOnAStick |
| 20:17.53 | purl | There, there, ZealotOnAStick. It's OK. I'm here for you. |
| 20:18.05 | kenlyric | uh, once you get infected you can't get uninfected. |
| 20:18.09 | mikma | ZealotOnAStick: mirc-viruses are quite the different thing |
| 20:18.19 | Kaelten | I've heard the weird al song, I know about this virus |
| 20:18.21 | ZealotOnAStick | mikma: how so? |
| 20:18.21 | CIA-22 | 03ammo * r42644 10Violation/todo.txt: Violation: add some idea/todo |
| 20:18.27 | Saroz | omfg paris hilston exposed |
| 20:18.28 | [Ammo] | oh man, zealot is back again |
| 20:18.29 | Saroz | wut wut |
| 20:18.37 | kenlyric | http://kb.iu.edu/data/anbp.html |
| 20:18.38 | mikma | ZealotOnAStick: well the script is different and therefore virusscanners don't catch it |
| 20:18.45 | ZealotOnAStick | yeah, was mainly checking to see if it was still happening. |
| 20:18.54 | MoonWolf | kergoth, you know a replacement for the person data of recap ? |
| 20:18.59 | MoonWolf | I might just code it my damn self. |
| 20:19.02 | Kaelten | I can /kick Name Reason |
| 20:19.14 | jme | are there any rumors of new playable races in the next xpac? |
| 20:19.15 | Funkeh` | what ahppened to zealot? |
| 20:19.15 | Hjalte | Kaelten, got this error when bying vials just now: [2007/07/03 22:18:00-1554-x1]: KC_Items-1.0.38138\KC_Items.lua:238: attempt to index local 'link' (a nil value) |
| 20:19.44 | Kaelten | Post in in the Ace2 thread in the forums please |
| 20:19.51 | Kaelten | I'm not able to check on it atm |
| 20:20.16 | Kaelten | sounds like I was trying to get the shortcode for an item that doesn't exist though |
| 20:21.01 | kenlyric | well, northrend is the home of the furbolgs. |
| 20:21.11 | kenlyric | but then they'd have to make chick furbolgs |
| 20:21.13 | kergoth | MoonWolf: both recount and assessment can show info like that, what % of your damage was autoshot, or whatever.. but its bound to whatever data you're showing, it wouldnt, afaik, survive across a data reset |
| 20:21.23 | kenlyric | and everyone on the alliance side can turn into a furbolg . |
| 20:21.35 | MoonWolf | to limited |
| 20:21.38 | MoonWolf | sadly |
| 20:21.57 | BankZZ | Violation is really being the best damage meter out there |
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| 20:22.13 | BankZZ | I just wish it held data after a disconect or /rl |
| 20:22.25 | MoonWolf | BankZZ, debatable |
| 20:22.41 | [Ammo] | it all depends on what info you need |
| 20:22.47 | [Ammo] | if you need uber detail, use assessment or recount |
| 20:23.02 | [Ammo] | if you just want simple damage, healing etc, use violation |
| 20:23.16 | CIA-22 | 03thexod * r42645 10ItemValue_DrDamage/Class_DrDamageSet.lua: |
| 20:23.16 | CIA-22 | ItemValue_DrDamage: |
| 20:23.16 | CIA-22 | - Make use of DrDamage API |
| 20:23.16 | CIA-22 | - Bugfixes |
| 20:23.22 | BankZZ | well, I dont think I can get my guild of SWS because they upload the logs and display the data on a website |
| 20:23.37 | BankZZ | but for what I care about Violation seems better |
| 20:23.38 | Antiarc|Work | You can do that without SWS using /combatlog and WWS |
| 20:24.27 | [Ammo] | yeah |
| 20:24.38 | BankZZ | I guess I am wrong I thought they were using the SWS logs |
| 20:26.02 | BankZZ | well, maybe ill start pushing Violation more then |
| 20:27.34 | mitch0 | any idea why this doesn't work as I expect? (it should be the background of a simple rectangular frame): |
| 20:27.37 | mitch0 | local rangeFrameBG = rangeFrame:CreateTexture("RangeDisplayFrameBG", "BACKGROUND") |
| 20:27.38 | mitch0 | rangeFrameBG:SetTexture(0, 0, 0, 0.33) |
| 20:27.55 | Hjalte | Kemayo, just got this error - Not sure if it is really a questsfu error. Got it when a priest used Shadowfiend and I hovered my mouse over the Pitbull pet frame for it. http://ace.pastey.net/70290 |
| 20:28.08 | Josh_Borke | ok, so is parrot ready? |
| 20:28.23 | yacoob | parrot ready for launching! |
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| 20:30.03 | CIA-22 | 03cryect * r42646 10Recount/ (13 files): |
| 20:30.03 | CIA-22 | Recount - Removes use of Ace 2 DB (defaults shouldn't overwrite settings anymore) |
| 20:30.03 | CIA-22 | -When combat log range being set by Recount is disabled it will now set it to default ranges |
| 20:31.24 | Mikk | er. when does acedb defaults overwrite settings? o.O |
| 20:31.52 | Cryect | If a setting is boolean |
| 20:31.54 | Mikk | it's a metatable _index, so anything in the table will override it |
| 20:31.55 | Cryect | and it can be set to false |
| 20:32.01 | Cryect | and the default is true |
| 20:32.03 | Anmoch_ | Antiarc: what was that command you gave me the other night, to dump the Threat-1.0 translation table? |
| 20:32.12 | Cryect | WoW doesn't write the false value to saved file |
| 20:32.21 | Mikk | Ow |
| 20:32.21 | Cryect | then Ace DB puts the default in |
| 20:32.35 | Cryect | hehe I changed to a more manual way of handling defaults |
| 20:32.35 | Mikk | Well, that's easily solved by storing the reverse in the db |
| 20:32.49 | Cryect | True but I wasn't even really use Ace 2 DB |
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| 20:33.01 | Mikk | Too bad. AceDB profiles ftwin |
| 20:33.11 | Cryect | I kinda hate AceDB profiles |
| 20:33.14 | Mikk | ^ the real reason for using acedb |
| 20:33.16 | Cryect | not fond of them |
| 20:33.17 | Cryect | yeah |
| 20:33.23 | Antiarc|Work | Anmoch_: /run AceLibrary("Threat-1.0"):DumpTranslationTable() |
| 20:33.27 | Cryect | since I don't really like them, decided why am I using this |
| 20:33.38 | Anmoch_ | Antiarc|Work: thanks |
| 20:33.41 | Cryect | I wanted to see would I like them more I guess :) |
| 20:33.57 | Mikk | Cryect: any particular reason for you disliking acedb profiles? |
| 20:34.28 | Cryect | Its an overly complex solution to being able to share profiles the way you work with them |
| 20:34.45 | Cryect | or most implementations at least |
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| 20:34.55 | Cryect | I'm sure you can use it and come up with a better way of working with them |
| 20:34.57 | Mikk | hmkay |
| 20:35.05 | Kemayo | Hjalte: I saw someone else report that over the weekend, with PitBull as well. Looks like there's something weird about unitframe tooltips. I'll add a check. |
| 20:35.10 | Mikk | I tend to keep one set of profiles for my 70s that i raid with |
| 20:35.14 | Mikk | Another set for lower level toons |
| 20:35.15 | Cryect | I don't :) |
| 20:35.25 | Cryect | My UI's are quite different from character to character |
| 20:35.42 | Cryect | I can see where it is advantageous |
| 20:35.53 | Mikk | I have too many toons to configure every darn addon in all of em :S |
| 20:36.24 | Cryect | I only have like 3 I use |
| 20:36.26 | Josh_Borke | or maybe you have too many addons? |
| 20:36.40 | Cryect | and well my mage & druid don't even use similar addons |
| 20:36.44 | Cryect | and my other toon is a leveling toon |
| 20:36.49 | Cryect | so thats quite different as well |
| 20:37.08 | Antiarc|Work | Thanks for the screens, Azurewrath |
| 20:37.15 | Antiarc|Work | They did help me ID one bug :) |
| 20:37.36 | Cryect | also Mikk, I couldn't store the reverse in a lot of the situations |
| 20:37.48 | CIA-22 | 03kemayo * r42647 10FuBar_QuestsFu/Tooltips/Tooltips.lua: |
| 20:37.48 | CIA-22 | FuBar_QuestsFu: |
| 20:37.48 | CIA-22 | - (Drycode) Tooltips: Make sure that the tooltip actually has a unit name before looking for quest mobs. (Hopefully fix weird issue with pitbull pet frames.) |
| 20:37.57 | Mikk | Well, I'm sorry you feel that AceDB profiles are crap. It's not that many lines of code, and they're going to be loaded anyway with any sane number of ace addons in the system. And it's plenty helpful for a lot of us. |
| 20:38.10 | Cryect | Right! |
| 20:38.24 | Cryect | Not telling people to rip it out :) |
| 20:38.47 | Mikk | But thanks for the pointer about the problem... that should be documented tbh |
| 20:38.52 | Cryect | It just wasn't working well for what I needed |
| 20:38.55 | Mikk | How the heck are you solving it now? |
| 20:39.00 | Cryect | Yeah it took me for a while to figure that one out |
| 20:39.21 | Hjalte | Kemayo, there was another pet too, with some weird name, that didnt error. |
| 20:39.27 | Cryect | I've got my default table, and you only set them to the default if its a missing table within the saved var table |
| 20:39.34 | Mikk | ah |
| 20:39.41 | Cryect | It was mainly an issue with filters |
| 20:39.55 | Cryect | where for some types I needed the filter defaulting to false and others defaulting to true |
| 20:40.03 | Kemayo | Hjalte: Regardless, it should hopefully fix things. :) |
| 20:40.20 | Cryect | and you can't really store the reverse since I was using the index to set options fast and check the settings fast |
| 20:40.34 | Mikk | i understand |
| 20:41.14 | Cryect | The other solution was create a function that xors it with the defaults to get the correct value but that requires a function call everytime I want to know the real value |
| 20:41.18 | aen` | mendeleev options are busted |
| 20:41.43 | Mikk | Cryect: i'm totally with you on this |
| 20:42.16 | Azurewrath | Antiarc: np :) |
| 20:42.46 | Mikk | actually, you're wrong about one thing |
| 20:42.53 | Mikk | wow's db saver doesn't dump out booleans set to false |
| 20:42.57 | Mikk | i just tested it |
| 20:43.16 | Mikk | smells like an acedb bug |
| 20:43.32 | Josh_Borke | didn't he say they don't dump out false? |
| 20:43.41 | Josh_Borke | (04:32:12 PM) Cryect: WoW doesn't write the false value to saved file |
| 20:43.42 | Mikk | errr |
| 20:43.49 | Mikk | i'll rephrase |
| 20:43.56 | Mikk | "WoW's db saver DOES write out booleans set to false" |
| 20:44.06 | ckknight | AceDB doesn't store defaults in the SVs. |
| 20:44.22 | Mikk | ckknight: i know |
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| 20:44.32 | ThePug[zZz] | Question with PItbull if anyonek nows - I'm trying to make a custom health thing to display the % then the estimated health - I type the correct thing into the Custom in health under target but it doesn't change. |
| 20:44.38 | Mikk | the problem here is that a boolean with default=true, configured =false, was becoming true on reload |
| 20:44.51 | ThePug[zZz] | Is there anything special I have to do to make the custom part take effect? I press enter. |
| 20:44.53 | Cryect | Hmmm I was having the issue any time the settings were being set to false they didn't get written was strange |
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| 20:45.02 | Mikk | i'm thinking there might be a "not" where there should be a "==nil" somewhere |
| 20:45.02 | durcyn | ThePug[zZz]: you have to actually set it to USE custom, not just define custom. |
| 20:45.14 | ThePug[zZz] | Alright |
| 20:45.38 | Cryect | Yeah basically it seemed to be assuming nil is false so we don't have to write it out |
| 20:45.43 | durcyn | ThePug[zZz]: and bear in mind, changing from a default to custom will usually dump that default into the custom field |
| 20:45.53 | binder | speed to boots and stuff doesn't affect druids shapeshifted right? |
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| 20:45.55 | mmbooger | for omen mod, how do i get it to show? |
| 20:46.07 | durcyn | mmbooger: click the fubar/minimap icon |
| 20:46.10 | Chompers | mag is one crazy fight |
| 20:46.17 | ThePug[zZz] | I have my layout on custom. Is this what you mean? |
| 20:46.23 | durcyn | Chompers: CLICK, DAMN YOU, FOR THE LOVE OF GOD, CLICK |
| 20:46.29 | Chompers | :P |
| 20:46.30 | durcyn | sorry, flashback |
| 20:46.36 | Chompers | we can't get that far |
| 20:46.39 | ThePug[zZz] | Chompers: Yeah, we finally got mag down last night. |
| 20:46.40 | ZealotOnAStick | Dear god Chatzilla is ugly |
| 20:46.45 | durcyn | ThePug[zZz]: eh? no, you should copy your own custom one first, because it's going toget overwritten |
| 20:46.46 | Chompers | 4 ads down and the infernals own us |
| 20:46.55 | durcyn | ZealotOnAStick: there's a really nice xchat win32 port |
| 20:46.58 | binder | tbc raiding |
| 20:47.02 | binder | bring 25 warlocks |
| 20:47.04 | [Ammo] | Chompers: fear, banish? |
| 20:47.07 | ZealotOnAStick | I tried xchat, really wasn't fond of it. |
| 20:47.13 | Chompers | its too slow [Ammo] |
| 20:47.14 | [Ammo] | irssi! |
| 20:47.18 | [Ammo] | too slow? |
| 20:47.22 | [Ammo] | you have priests with instafear |
| 20:47.23 | Cryect | Mikk, I just checked I'm still not seeing false being written out (you using windows client?) |
| 20:47.28 | [Ammo] | warlocks with instafear (if affliction) |
| 20:47.29 | Chompers | they get banished/trapped...after killing a few |
| 20:47.31 | durcyn | Chompers: tell your dumbass paladins to HOJ, your dumbass mages to frost nova, and your dumbass hunters to freeze trap |
| 20:47.34 | [Ammo] | a killing |
| 20:47.37 | [Ammo] | don't kill |
| 20:47.37 | ZealotOnAStick | irssi's windows implementation is incomplete. |
| 20:47.40 | [Ammo] | CC em all |
| 20:47.44 | Mikk | Cryect: yes, windows. but i'm not fiddling a value that has an acedb default. |
| 20:47.46 | [Ammo] | frost trap, frost nova, fear etc |
| 20:47.51 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r42648 10Parrot/Events.lua: Parrot_Events - move some things around |
| 20:47.53 | Chompers | *after killing a few raid members |
| 20:47.54 | durcyn | [Ammo]: i think he means the infernals kill people |
| 20:47.57 | Chompers | forgot to add that :P |
| 20:48.08 | durcyn | Chompers: how many warlocks did you bring? |
| 20:48.22 | Chompers | 2 |
| 20:48.28 | durcyn | Chompers: having 4-5 in raid really helps for learning. leave 1-2 with the raid, have the rest patrol |
| 20:48.30 | ZealotOnAStick | Now, whatever was infesting MIRC should be no longer an issue, as I just uninstalled it and then nuked the leftover files and dir. |
| 20:48.53 | Chompers | only have 3 in the guild :P |
| 20:48.55 | durcyn | ZealotOnAStick: it was spamming a .scr file, you're probably more owned than just mirc |
| 20:49.05 | Cryect | Mikk: Yeah, I see what actually is happening the falses are getting written. What actually happened is when I used GetChecked() it returns nil or 1 not false or true |
| 20:49.07 | durcyn | Chompers: well, then bend over and thank god you're learning it after 2.1 |
| 20:49.14 | Chompers | hehe |
| 20:49.14 | [Ammo] | Chompers: your hunters can cc em as well |
| 20:49.17 | [Ammo] | and your mages can frost em |
| 20:49.29 | durcyn | but seriously, the only people without an excuse are rogues |
| 20:49.36 | ZealotOnAStick | durcyn: well, I'll see if it happens with chatzilla. |
| 20:49.37 | durcyn | shout, scream, nova, trap, whatever |
| 20:49.38 | Chompers | it's only our second attempt, maybe after 10 or twenty it won't be so bad |
| 20:49.42 | ThePug[zZz] | [Status:PercentHP:Percent] | [~Status?FractionalHP:Short] <- putting this into the custom health area and it's still not updating =\ |
| 20:49.47 | Mikk | Cryect: I'll hunt this down in a bit. Going out for a walk with my better half. |
| 20:49.50 | ZealotOnAStick | I've got my 4th av app running deep scan right now. |
| 20:49.53 | Cryect | Mikk: So looks like was my issue actually |
| 20:49.57 | durcyn | ZealotOnAStick: look for tcp 2469 in netstat |
| 20:50.00 | ZealotOnAStick | and I'm really hoping I can clean this up without a reinstall. |
| 20:50.40 | mmbooger | does omen have a /command? |
| 20:50.48 | Azurewrath | a reinstall is the only _really_ clean solution for a contamined system |
| 20:51.01 | Antiarc|Work | Oh yay |
| 20:51.10 | Antiarc|Work | My realm's resident troll has taken up defending KTM |
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| 20:51.23 | Antiarc|Work | mmbooger: Like /omen ? :P |
| 20:51.31 | ZealotOnAStick | yeah, there is a listen on 2469 |
| 20:51.34 | durcyn | ZealotOnAStick: you should've wiped that box the minute it was owned, and never look at a single executable from it ever again |
| 20:51.40 | durcyn | ZealotOnAStick: you're still 0wned |
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| 20:52.02 | ZealotOnAStick | bah. That's problematic, this is my productivity box. |
| 20:52.13 | Antiarc|Work | netstat -abn |
| 20:52.14 | durcyn | some kind of trojan that pops up a webserver on with a windows screen saver |
| 20:52.16 | Antiarc|Work | And look for 2469 |
| 20:52.24 | durcyn | could be one of a dozen |
| 20:52.39 | Antiarc|Work | ZealotOnAStick: Get a firewall like Zone Alarm or something too |
| 20:52.45 | durcyn | how'd you get infected anyway? looking at paris hilton pron? |
| 20:52.49 | Antiarc|Work | Block that port inbound and out. |
| 20:53.09 | mmbooger | cause they're dumb and download porn.exe |
| 20:53.27 | durcyn | well, porn.scr in this case |
| 20:53.30 | durcyn | >_< |
| 20:54.11 | ZealotOnAStick | No, I find Paris Hilton unattractive. |
| 20:54.15 | Megalon | what's wrong with porn.exe? is it bad?! :( |
| 20:54.31 | ckknight | porn.jpg.exe is safe, though, right? |
| 20:54.38 | Chompers | i keep clicking porn.exe and i see no porn! |
| 20:54.40 | Jagobah | :O |
| 20:54.42 | Chompers | where is my porn |
| 20:54.47 | Jagobah | I am going to try out |
| 20:54.48 | ZealotOnAStick | probably infected via nod32-fix, if I were to guess. |
| 20:54.53 | Jagobah | Parrot ( '-') |
| 20:55.00 | Megalon | the 3 P, you can make money on the internet |
| 20:55.02 | ZealotOnAStick | painfully ironic. |
| 20:55.04 | Megalon | pills, poker and porn! |
| 20:55.46 | durcyn | ZealotOnAStick: kind of makes you wish for a shell account for irc eh? |
| 20:56.59 | ZealotOnAStick | eh, I actually could probably use one if I wished. |
| 20:57.54 | durcyn | just stand up a slackware box on some old hardware, toss irssi up in a screen session |
| 20:58.16 | ZealotOnAStick | this is the first and only time in over a decade I've had any real infection. I'm generally pretty damn careful and paranoid. |
| 20:58.50 | durcyn | yeah, but you're still running windows. caveat emptor. |
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| 21:01.33 | ZealotOnAStick | I think I found the persistent little problem. |
| 21:01.50 | CIA-22 | 03cryect * r42649 10Recount/ (12 files): |
| 21:01.50 | CIA-22 | Recount - Revert back to using Ace DB after figuring out the real issue (and fixes it) |
| 21:01.50 | CIA-22 | -Still keeps changes to setting defaults for combat log |
| 21:03.04 | gnorlish | zoas: have you tried using HydraIRC? i am not a power user, but it does have the bells and whistles i'm used to |
| 21:04.00 | Codayus | irssi > * :-) |
| 21:04.16 | ZealotOnAStick | gnorlish: I'll probably give vIRC a try, and if I don't like it, Hydra's next on the list. |
| 21:04.44 | Morghus | in Baggins, is there some way to make Gathered:Enchanting, and then without defining 9832548 conditions, keep primals out of Enchanting, and in a separate category for Motes and primals? |
| 21:04.53 | ZealotOnAStick | all that's secondary to actually fixing this infection issue, one way or another, of course. |
| 21:05.18 | Antiarc|Work | ZealotOnAStick: I use gaim for IRC on windows. *shrug* |
| 21:05.22 | NightHawkAtWork | Morghus: I'd look into using various pt3 sets, including Tradeskill.Mat.ByType |
| 21:05.55 | NightHawkAtWork | I vastly dislike how gaim/pidgin handles irc. :\ |
| 21:06.27 | Morghus | NightHawkAtWork: I'm hoping to avoid setting up 5 million 'NOT' conditions >< |
| 21:06.55 | Cryect | NightHawkAtWork: can't be worse than how trillian handles irc, friend was using that an it autobolds everything he says |
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| 21:07.22 | gnorlish | sounds like just the client for the ego-driven irc user |
| 21:07.42 | trh | 7color fun ^^ |
| 21:07.44 | ravagernl | oo parrot has scrollareas now I see |
| 21:07.54 | NightHawkAtWork | Cryect: true, but trillian sucks in general. :P |
| 21:08.12 | Morghus | Trillian, that's the bloaty stuff, right? Think I tried it out for a bit |
| 21:08.48 | NightHawkAtWork | Morghus: Erm... Tradeskill.Mat.ByType.Primal is just one 'not' condition... |
| 21:08.55 | RaydenUni | trillian is nice |
| 21:08.59 | RaydenUni | i don't like it for irc though |
| 21:09.11 | RaydenUni | and for whatever reason i've stopped using it and now use GAIM/Pidgin |
| 21:09.20 | Antiarc|Work | gaim + google talk for me. |
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| 21:09.33 | RaydenUni | you use google talk in addition to gaim? |
| 21:09.35 | NightHawkAtWork | Morghus: Alternately, if you're using hide duplicate items, just have your section that includes Tradeskill.Mat.ByType.Primal/Mote -above- the section that includes Enchanting stuff. |
| 21:09.36 | Antiarc|Work | yeah |
| 21:09.40 | ZealotOnAStick | I'm a bit annoyed, Avira, McAfee, NOD32, Panda all haven't picked up this fake svchost.exe that's the infection source. |
| 21:09.45 | RaydenUni | why antiarc? |
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| 21:10.00 | Antiarc|Work | Because I like it better than gaim's jabber support. |
| 21:10.06 | RaydenUni | http://www.silverex.info/news/ <-- what i use for irc |
| 21:10.28 | NightHawkAtWork | x-chat is nice, but isnt the windows version shareware? |
| 21:10.36 | RaydenUni | yes but he gives the source |
| 21:10.37 | Gnarfoz | it's GPL'd |
| 21:10.42 | gnorlish | his link goes to a version someone wrote |
| 21:10.44 | gnorlish | that's free |
| 21:10.45 | Morghus | NightHawkAtWork: Thanks. Still be a heapload of work this =/ |
| 21:10.45 | Gnarfoz | so other people provide free builds |
| 21:10.48 | RaydenUni | x-chat2 is a compiled version someone else made for free |
| 21:10.50 | NightHawkAtWork | Ahh |
| 21:11.04 | Gnarfoz | I use xchat/w32 (another free build, not that one) to connect to irssi w/ irssiproxy on my dedicated box ^^ |
| 21:11.04 | NightHawkAtWork | Morghus: Welcome to baggins. It's not precisely trivial to set up :P |
| 21:11.06 | RaydenUni | they just took the available source, compile it, and distribute it |
| 21:11.21 | RaydenUni | so gnorlish it's not a different program or different code |
| 21:11.23 | NightHawkAtWork | I might check that out, then. I like x-chat a lot. |
| 21:11.34 | RaydenUni | dangit |
| 21:11.38 | trh | mirc for ever ;) |
| 21:11.38 | RaydenUni | i need my onefile to work again :( |
| 21:11.54 | NeoTron | so is it too much to have 5 paladin healers in 25-man raids? :P |
| 21:12.04 | NightHawkAtWork | mIRC is pretty shitty |
| 21:12.05 | RaydenUni | lol |
| 21:12.07 | Cryect | uh kinda |
| 21:12.08 | RaydenUni | your healers would never die |
| 21:12.32 | gnorlish | i hope you don't have to aoe heal |
| 21:12.33 | Morghus | NightHawkAtWork: It's more like "I've done this twice before, and this time there must be a shortcut I'm missing! *begs please please please please*" :P |
| 21:12.42 | trh | NightHawkAtWork: ah well.. it's not too bad - supports everything i need |
| 21:12.48 | ravagernl | ckknight: would you define parrot as beta quality already? |
| 21:12.55 | trh | NightHawkAtWork: and i like the gui more than xchat |
| 21:13.04 | NeoTron | we have 4 atm |
| 21:13.12 | ckknight | ravagernl: no, alpha, since it has absolutely no config |
| 21:13.13 | Kemayo | Gnarfoz: mIRC certainly works. It's just not worth considering if you have access to something like irssi. |
| 21:13.16 | NeoTron | as I said before what we really need is a shaman or two |
| 21:13.43 | Elkano | any thoughts from you guys on a Acer Aspire 5920 notebook? |
| 21:13.51 | Kemayo | Wait, why was that directed to Gnarfoz? |
| 21:13.51 | Gnarfoz | Kemayo: hm? |
| 21:13.53 | Kemayo | Oh well. |
| 21:13.54 | Gnarfoz | heh |
| 21:14.15 | Kemayo | This is what happens when two lines of reasoning cross. |
| 21:14.30 | ZealotOnAStick | Elkano: From personal experience, Acers are still cheap crap and you get what you pay for. |
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| 21:15.16 | NightHawkAtWork | trh: It works, and yeah, It works reasonably well, but the whole look/feel/design of it feels really awkward to me. Sometimes It feels like crawling through a meat grinder. |
| 21:15.47 | NightHawkAtWork | Then again, in that respect I suppose it's the epitome of a windows program. :P |
| 21:16.04 | trh | NightHawkAtWork: i don't have a problem with it :) |
| 21:16.17 | trh | NightHawkAtWork: ... like linux programs are better :P |
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| 21:17.24 | Elkano | ZealotOnAStick: hmm :/ |
| 21:17.25 | iNFUSE | what video options in wow can i lower to increase gameplay performance |
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| 21:17.57 | Kemayo | iNFUSE: Most of them. |
| 21:18.07 | Josh_Borke | iNFUSE: all of them |
| 21:18.23 | odt | i'd start with resolution |
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| 21:18.27 | odt | 800x600 |
| 21:18.35 | iNFUSE | no thanks |
| 21:18.39 | Coruss | the tooltips will usually say whether disabling them improves performance |
| 21:18.45 | odt | i used to play WoW like that for 2 years :) |
| 21:19.12 | odt | but i guess the question really is, where is your performance bottleneck |
| 21:20.28 | iNFUSE | when i play on 1024x768 i get 20/30 fps, when i play at 1280x960 i get 12/15 fps |
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| 21:20.33 | Josh_Borke | then yea, turn down video settings |
| 21:20.33 | Josh_Borke | also, try playing in fullscreen mode |
| 21:21.05 | iNFUSE | i am playing in full screen mode |
| 21:22.12 | CIA-22 | 03bayi * r42650 10beql/ (beql.lua tracker.lua): beql: - tracker tooltip added more search patterns for G P + and Gx indicators before the quest (now finding all the quests) |
| 21:22.35 | Josh_Borke | iNFUSE: you could also check to see what sort of performance hit you'reg etting from mods |
| 21:22.43 | grzesieq | hm, i have some lag between the bubble of what someone is saying and it showing up in chat window |
| 21:22.47 | grzesieq | prat problem? |
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| 21:22.59 | yasuo | hi |
| 21:23.12 | NeoTron | so honest opinion: can retri paladins do meaningful dps / be valuable in raids? I think the answer is "yes, if they are played right" |
| 21:23.27 | Antiarc|Work | Yes, but they don't really approach the value of another DPSer |
| 21:23.29 | yasuo | whats the frame called wich show infos when you move the mouse over a monster? |
| 21:23.53 | NeoTron | take into account keeping other judgements alive with crusader strike |
| 21:24.00 | Josh_Borke | yasuo: the GameTooltip? |
| 21:24.27 | Kalman| | NeoTron: If they miss/dodged once, though, judgment will drop off and the other paladins will have to break to reapply anyway. |
| 21:24.31 | Antiarc|Work | We have a ret paladin, and honestly, I don't think he necessarily adds anything special to the raid. |
| 21:24.37 | yasuo | or better: how can i change its position? the frame (tooltip?) is betweenthe cetnter and the bottom-right corner and i want it in the bottom right corner |
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| 21:24.51 | CIA-22 | 03thexod * r42651 10ItemValue/ItemValue.lua: |
| 21:24.51 | CIA-22 | ItemValue: |
| 21:24.51 | CIA-22 | - EquipValue greatly improved |
| 21:25.00 | art3mis | Antiarc|Work: he adds fall back healing ;P |
| 21:25.10 | art3mis | not very good healing or good dps mind you |
| 21:25.18 | RaydenUni | shadow priest |
| 21:25.24 | RaydenUni | good dps, good utility |
| 21:25.25 | yasuo | Josh_Borke: i tried to move "tooltip" woth "moveanything" bot "tooltip" is in the upper-center and not where the "tooltip" i mean is located |
| 21:25.28 | RaydenUni | and some fallback healing |
| 21:25.46 | *** mode/#wowace [+o Cair] by ChanServ |
| 21:25.46 | Josh_Borke | yasuo: you can't really move the tooltip with move anything |
| 21:25.49 | art3mis | as an endgame ret pallies arent very good, they're great for pvp, but against a boss with 1mill hps they arent "un replaceable" |
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| 21:25.59 | NeoTron | of course they are also looking to improve retri pallies in raids |
| 21:26.09 | art3mis | shadow priests rule :) healing dps mana regen |
| 21:26.17 | art3mis | and if need be can take a beating |
| 21:26.27 | Josh_Borke | you can't really move the tooltip with move anything. you have to get another mod designed to move it since it's different |
| 21:26.28 | Chompers | all mag ads down..horay! |
| 21:26.34 | Josh_Borke | yasuo: try TinyTip or CowTip |
| 21:26.40 | Antiarc|Work | Chompers: Now you just need to lern2click and epix! |
| 21:26.47 | RaydenUni | <art3mis> and if need be can take a beating <-- wha? |
| 21:26.47 | Chompers | it worked really well |
| 21:26.52 | Chompers | we had 4 cubes clicked |
| 21:26.59 | Chompers | and one person who wasn't |
| 21:27.16 | RaydenUni | how do shadow priests take a beating? |
| 21:27.24 | RaydenUni | they fight in their pajamas |
| 21:27.30 | jme | ... |
| 21:27.31 | RaydenUni | sure they have a shield but end game it's not much |
| 21:27.39 | Josh_Borke | RaydenUni: what do you mean? take a beating? |
| 21:27.48 | RaydenUni | art3mis said it not me |
| 21:28.05 | jme | Josh_Borke: like, it might take me longer than Intimidation lasts to kill you if you pop your shield ;) |
| 21:28.28 | mitch0 | hm. maybe I should use AceDB so that I don't screw myself up with db = DefaultDB in my "reset" function... |
| 21:28.46 | mitch0 | lua needs copy constructors :) |
| 21:29.04 | jme | Josh_Borke: you should reroll horde on SR |
| 21:29.22 | RaydenUni | highest level shield is 605 health. with talents you can up that some |
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| 21:30.14 | durcyn | divine shield is modified by +heal, at an awesome rate of like 15% |
| 21:30.21 | art3mis | SP's get a fairly decent damage mitigation |
| 21:30.25 | durcyn | worst. coefficient. ever. |
| 21:30.26 | art3mis | in shadowform that is |
| 21:30.35 | Josh_Borke | shadowform reduces physical damage by 10% |
| 21:30.43 | art3mis | granted it's not as good as other classes but it's "almost" comparable to most shaman in leather |
| 21:30.58 | Mikk | shamans wear mail |
| 21:31.02 | art3mis | pw: shield makwes me sad most days |
| 21:31.03 | hypetech | but that shaman in leather can heal :p |
| 21:31.13 | Antiarc|Work | inner fire + shadowform is crazy mitigation |
| 21:31.17 | RaydenUni | and i guess priests have Inner Fire which is a ton of armor |
| 21:31.19 | iNFUSE | when i play in the azeroth/easteren kingom side of the game i get around 30 fps |
| 21:31.22 | art3mis | i wish it had gotten scaled with the rest, but c'est la vie |
| 21:31.28 | art3mis | RaydenUni: yup |
| 21:31.30 | iNFUSE | but outlands at 1280x960 i get like 15/20 fps |
| 21:31.40 | RaydenUni | iNFUSE outlands is more graphic intensive |
| 21:31.43 | Mikk | iNFUSE: yes, the outland world is more detailed |
| 21:31.47 | hypetech | iNFUSE: stay out of outlands |
| 21:31.47 | Antiarc|Work | Probably related to terrain distance. |
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| 21:31.55 | Antiarc|Work | Try turning down your terrain distance and see what that does for oyu |
| 21:32.11 | RaydenUni | wowhead says 15% physical for shadowform |
| 21:32.24 | art3mis | we can't tank without amazing healers, but we can survive accidental aggro better than a lock or mage can ;) |
| 21:32.27 | jme | that's what i was thinking to |
| 21:32.28 | jme | +o |
| 21:32.28 | RaydenUni | i'm still amazed at how much + damage you get as a shadow priest |
| 21:32.35 | art3mis | its 15% physical |
| 21:32.42 | art3mis | they lowered the damage from 15 to 10 |
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| 21:32.52 | Josh_Borke | meh, whatever |
| 21:32.52 | art3mis | and gave us withering |
| 21:32.58 | jme | oh |
| 21:33.00 | art3mis | thus giving us back something we already had |
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| 21:33.47 | RaydenUni | 15% from shadow form, 10% from shadow weaving, 10% from Darkness, 5% from Misery |
| 21:33.49 | jme | so if i roll a spriest, should i go belf or undead? ;) |
| 21:33.58 | art3mis | its 10 from shadow now |
| 21:33.59 | CIA-22 | 03thexod * r42652 10ItemValue/ItemValue.lua: |
| 21:33.59 | CIA-22 | ItemValue: |
| 21:33.59 | CIA-22 | - Fixed a bug which prevented inspecting |
| 21:34.14 | art3mis | and darkness is range not damage |
| 21:34.14 | RaydenUni | was that from the recent shadow priest nerf? |
| 21:34.21 | RaydenUni | darkness is damage |
| 21:34.23 | art3mis | yeah the same one they removed VE crits |
| 21:34.24 | yasuo | Josh_Borke: i set the gametooltips position to bottom-right but its still not there |
| 21:34.25 | RaydenUni | Shadow Reach is range |
| 21:34.49 | RaydenUni | undead has a racial dot spell |
| 21:35.05 | RaydenUni | troll has a sort of electric shield spell |
| 21:35.08 | RaydenUni | pretty nice |
| 21:35.22 | RaydenUni | you already have silence so belf silence isn't as important |
| 21:35.25 | art3mis | sorry yeah |
| 21:35.32 | RaydenUni | breaking fear and stuff as undead is nice |
| 21:35.39 | RaydenUni | i think undead is supposed to be best for pvp |
| 21:35.41 | art3mis | the shadowform was dropped to 10% and the withering was the 5% it made up |
| 21:35.42 | Josh_Borke | yasuo: using what? |
| 21:35.53 | RaydenUni | withering? |
| 21:35.57 | art3mis | undead is the goodest |
| 21:36.00 | yasuo | Josh_Borke: tinytip |
| 21:36.02 | art3mis | err misery |
| 21:36.03 | jme | yeah i'm thinking undead too |
| 21:36.08 | art3mis | ive called it withering since beta |
| 21:36.12 | art3mis | dunno why |
| 21:36.29 | art3mis | i miss the un nerfed ud talent |
| 21:36.34 | Josh_Borke | yasuo: not sure then. something else could be moving it |
| 21:36.49 | art3mis | that fear prot was awesome in pvp |
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| 21:41.54 | Ominous | good evening |
| 21:42.28 | ckknight | hey Ominous |
| 21:43.11 | CIA-22 | 03daviesh * r42653 10AtlasLoot/Instances/instances.de.lua: |
| 21:43.11 | CIA-22 | AtlasLoot: |
| 21:43.11 | CIA-22 | - Fixed the German link for the deadmines set |
| 21:44.09 | Kalman| | Shadow Form is still 15%. |
| 21:44.35 | Kalman| | Weaving was dropped to 10% from 15%. Misery has always been 5%. |
| 21:45.12 | yasuo | Josh_Borke: tooltipwrangler helped me, thx for your help :) |
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| 21:47.47 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r42654 10Parrot/ (Events.lua Parrot.lua embeds.xml libs/): |
| 21:47.47 | CIA-22 | Parrot - don't show fontstrings until they are moved. |
| 21:47.47 | CIA-22 | Parrot_Events - add events for buff/debuff/item buff gains/losses. |
| 21:48.30 | Ominous | Parrot? |
| 21:48.33 | Ominous | ~Parrot |
| 21:48.34 | purl | i heard parrot is the image displayed from the ipaq's default bootloader see http://www.handhelds.org/z/wiki/LoadingFromCF, or http://www.lobstertech.com/code/phoneparrot/ |
| 21:48.40 | Kalman| | ckkSCT. |
| 21:48.40 | Cryect | Parrot is his SCT |
| 21:48.54 | Cryect | Scrolling Combat Text of Awesome I think is the TOC |
| 21:48.58 | Cryect | or something |
| 21:49.00 | Ominous | ckknight: is your aim to get a whole ui package made by you? |
| 21:49.02 | Mikk | purl, parrot is also a scrolling combat text addon for WoW |
| 21:49.02 | purl | okay, Mikk |
| 21:49.04 | Cryect | everything is always awesome with him |
| 21:49.07 | Antiarc|Work | Sckkrolling Kombat Text |
| 21:49.09 | ckknight | ## Notes: Floating Combat Text of awesomeness. Caw. It'll eat your crackers. |
| 21:49.27 | ckknight | so, as you can see, its primary goal is to eat your crackers |
| 21:49.36 | Cryect | good I need cracker eating |
| 21:49.36 | Antiarc|Work | Racist. |
| 21:49.37 | ckknight | as a side effect, it also acts as a floating combat text. |
| 21:49.48 | ckknight | Antiarc|Work: ? |
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| 21:50.06 | Antiarc|Work | You got something against crackers? |
| 21:50.06 | yasuo | Antiarc|Work: did you mean: raid_assist? |
| 21:50.34 | yasuo | hackers>crackers |
| 21:50.37 | Neebler | GET IN THE CHOPPA!! |
| 21:50.37 | Antiarc|Work | I'm just being silly :P |
| 21:51.49 | Chompers | ckknight can you name something you make Sausage? |
| 21:52.02 | Chompers | anything :) |
| 21:52.06 | Mikk | #2? |
| 21:52.55 | Cryect | Sausage isn't an animal so doubt he could |
| 21:53.08 | ckknight | Chompers: possibly. |
| 21:53.16 | NightHawkAtWork | Chompers just wants to say how much he love's ckknight's sausage. |
| 21:53.40 | Mikk | "Here's de sausage. But you'll hafta work abit for de sauce. Har har." |
| 21:54.21 | Chompers | i want to say in guild chat "i've a problem with my Sausage, can someone lend me a hand?" |
| 21:54.50 | NightHawkAtWork | s/love's/loves/ |
| 21:55.00 | Anmoch_ | is there an ACE replacement for GuildEventManager? |
| 21:55.08 | Mikk | you wish |
| 21:55.09 | Cryect | Ace |
| 21:55.15 | Mikk | there is no sane replacement for any guild management tool afaik |
| 21:55.19 | Mikk | they all suck goats ass |
| 21:55.24 | Anmoch_ | :( |
| 21:55.41 | Cryect | Come on don't you like the way you have to change ranks in guilds! |
| 21:55.47 | ckknight | Mikk: I had thought about making one |
| 21:55.52 | Cryect | Though thats not events :-p |
| 21:55.52 | Anmoch_ | the unhideable minimap button disqualifies it already... |
| 21:56.00 | NightHawkAtWork | Mikk: The replacement is "use a forum like everyone else" :P |
| 21:56.01 | ckknight | but could never think of how to get the comm quite right |
| 21:56.02 | Mikk | I'd like to be able to like GroupCalendar |
| 21:56.02 | Mikk | but its sync is so broken it's not even funny |
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| 21:56.10 | Cryect | how can a minimap icon be really hidden? |
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| 21:56.24 | Cryect | Need a good distributed Database Library |
| 21:56.34 | Cryect | for things like guild calendars |
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| 21:56.39 | Mikk | The comm for distributed sync is a bastard |
| 21:56.47 | Cryect | yeah |
| 21:56.50 | Mikk | There's no fixed values to work off of |
| 21:56.51 | Anmoch_ | NightHawkAtWork: people on my server have a lot more WoW time than firefox time |
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| 21:57.06 | Mikk | The only good one I've been able to come up with is /played time per character, which is guaranteed to increase |
| 21:57.14 | Cryect | can i do /played in firefox? :-p |
| 21:57.27 | Mikk | And that enables you to create events that are tied to a sender |
| 21:57.55 | Mikk | But the problem with events is that you have no clue when it's ok to expire them |
| 21:58.33 | Josh_Borke | bye all |
| 21:58.35 | NightHawkAtWork | Anmoch_: That's kind of silly. perhaps you should teach them to alt-tab. :P |
| 21:58.40 | Mikk | bb josh |
| 21:58.41 | Cryect | Be nice if the wow server would give us dates |
| 21:58.53 | Mikk | Mhm |
| 21:59.09 | Mikk | An alternative hack is to allow everyone to edit the guild info window |
| 21:59.17 | Cryect | Is there even a good ingame calendar for a single user? |
| 21:59.31 | Cryect | I remember this discussion with saving info in the guild notes |
| 22:00.25 | Mikk | The guild info window seems like the most sane place to stick a sequence number |
| 22:01.07 | Mikk | Or a date offset perhaps is better |
| 22:01.26 | Mikk | Since you can write that one back plus one if you ever see it go missing |
| 22:02.01 | Mikk | Server time can be computed with ~second precision after the first minute change, which is good enough for problem resolution |
| 22:02.28 | Mikk | Then again. There's a major underlying assumption: |
| 22:02.38 | Mikk | We assume that everyone that wants sync is in a single guild |
| 22:02.49 | Mikk | It totally fails to extend to communication between two guilds |
| 22:03.08 | Mikk | Or for that matter relayed whisper comms between a network of players (think flood fill info) |
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| 22:03.21 | NeoTron | http://www.wowjutsu.com/us/ is incredibly cool |
| 22:03.51 | Anmoch_ | NightHawkAtWork: i have given up on teaching WoW players anything a long time ago |
| 22:04.04 | Anmoch_ | if they haven't learned it by the time they hit 70 all hope is lost |
| 22:04.13 | abyssichate | NeoTron: is it only for US? |
| 22:04.33 | NeoTron | don't ask me, I just found it :) |
| 22:04.51 | abyssichate | I don't currently have the European guilds indexed, but it is in the works and will be made available soon. |
| 22:04.54 | abyssichate | Guess so |
| 22:05.39 | Mikk | Events uniquely identified by sender:playtime would work much better in a floodfill network |
| 22:06.01 | NightHawkAtWork | Anmoch_: I avoid teaching people anything. I just expect them to learn of their own volition, and behave as such. :) |
| 22:06.02 | NeoTron | my guild is #636 in the US and #5 on Kilrogg. |
| 22:06.12 | NeoTron | which seems accurate |
| 22:06.13 | NightHawkAtWork | NeoTron: That is kindan eat. |
| 22:06.19 | NightHawkAtWork | s/n eat/neat/ |
| 22:06.30 | NightHawkAtWork | hmm. my sedfu is weak. |
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| 22:07.14 | Ominous | hmm cant decide if i like linux or not, |
| 22:07.42 | abyssichate | the one I like the most is realmhistory.net even if Bosskillers seems to be more accurate (but crap in some ways) |
| 22:07.51 | CIA-22 | 03bayi * r42655 10beql/beql.lua: beql: - 0.85 ready |
| 22:07.59 | durcyn | bosskillers has a very peculiar ranking system |
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| 22:08.10 | Antiarc|Work | I wonder where it gets the data from. |
| 22:08.29 | NightHawkAtWork | Ominous: if you don't, we'll smash your kneecaps. :P |
| 22:08.48 | Ominous | NightHawkAtWork, ok rofl |
| 22:09.55 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r42656 10Parser-3.0/Parser-3.0/Parser-3.0.lua: Parser-3.0 - fix _lt, _le, _gt, _ge |
| 22:11.33 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r42657 10Parrot/Events.lua: Parrot_Events - add Honor Gains, Reputation Gains/Losses, Experience Gains, and Player/NPC Killing Blows |
| 22:11.48 | ThePug[zZz] | I'm looking to use Fubar_CorkFu and wondered if this would help show buffs that the raid needed (say PW:F is missing on a person) - class dependent too |
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| 22:13.15 | Ominous | ckknight: is Parrot useable? |
| 22:13.24 | ckknight | Ominous: yea, if you're minimalistic |
| 22:13.31 | ckknight | no options yet |
| 22:13.39 | ckknight | and colors haven't been done yet (will do soon) |
| 22:13.48 | ckknight | but all in all, it works |
| 22:15.02 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r42658 10Parrot/Events.lua: Parrot_Events - add Extra Attacks |
| 22:15.53 | grzesieq | any idea why pitbull's layouts -> send in-game is grayed out? |
| 22:16.06 | ckknight | grzesieq: likely because you haven't saved any layouts. |
| 22:16.12 | grzesieq | how do I? |
| 22:16.20 | ckknight | look in the menu |
| 22:16.22 | grzesieq | export layout is gray too |
| 22:16.30 | ckknight | yea, because you haven't saved any layouts. |
| 22:16.41 | ckknight | I made a forum post about this |
| 22:17.06 | Nickenyfiken | Adirelle: AceLocale-2.2-40629 (Ace2):487: AceLocale(SimpleSelfRebuff): Translation "Intellect" does not exist. |
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| 22:18.19 | grzesieq | ckknight: mind pointing me to the right thread? |
| 22:18.44 | ckknight | grzesieq: on the Unit Frames forum |
| 22:20.42 | Adirelle | Nickenyfiken: got it |
| 22:21.09 | CIA-22 | 03adirelle * r42659 10SimpleSelfRebuff/ (locale-enUS.lua locale-frFR.lua): |
| 22:21.09 | CIA-22 | SimpleSelfRebuff: |
| 22:21.10 | CIA-22 | - missing locale fix. |
| 22:21.32 | Anmoch_ | Antiarc: this happened a few minutes ago, don't know if you can make anything of it: http://n.ethz.ch/~trast/download/WoWScrnShot_070407_000229.jpg |
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| 22:22.41 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r42660 10Parser-3.0/Parser-3.0/Parser-3.0.lua: Parser-3.0 - add eventType "Skill", fires when you gain points in a skill. |
| 22:24.21 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r42661 10Parser-3.0/Parser-3.0/Parser-3.0.lua: Parser-3.0 - add eventTypeLocal to populate funcs that were missing it. |
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| 22:25.47 | Mikk | Schmidt: been fixed i believe |
| 22:25.58 | Schmidt | Mikk: O RLY? |
| 22:26.04 | Schmidt | Mikk: I need to check that out. |
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| 22:28.02 | Schmidt | Mikk: It looks right. Thanks for letting me know. |
| 22:28.14 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r42662 10Parrot/Events.lua: Parrot_Events - add Skill Gains |
| 22:28.32 | Punkie` | ckknight: is it in a useable state yet? :) |
| 22:28.50 | ckknight | how do you mean? |
| 22:28.51 | ckknight | it works |
| 22:28.52 | TheKarn | ~Parrot |
| 22:28.52 | purl | extra, extra, read all about it, parrot is the image displayed from the ipaq's default bootloader see http://www.handhelds.org/z/wiki/LoadingFromCF, or http://www.lobstertech.com/code/phoneparrot/, or a scrolling combat text addon for WoW |
| 22:28.54 | ckknight | it just has no options |
| 22:29.08 | ckknight | ~literal parrot |
| 22:29.08 | purl | "parrot" is "the image displayed from the ipaq's default bootloader see http://www.handhelds.org/z/wiki/LoadingFromCF, or http://www.lobstertech.com/code/phoneparrot/, or a scrolling combat text addon for WoW" |
| 22:29.31 | ckknight | purl, no, parrot is the image displayed from the ipaq's default bootloader see http://www.handhelds.org/z/wiki/LoadingFromCF, or http://www.lobstertech.com/code/phoneparrot/, or a floating combat text addon for WoW |
| 22:29.32 | purl | okay, ckknight |
| 22:29.32 | Punkie` | does it manage damage text too? |
| 22:29.38 | ckknight | Punkie`: manage how? |
| 22:29.43 | ckknight | it shows damage |
| 22:29.46 | ckknight | in and out |
| 22:29.49 | Punkie` | nice |
| 22:29.52 | Punkie` | i will try it |
| 22:30.00 | ckknight | currently, it looks like a cheap MSBT |
| 22:30.12 | Punkie` | does it have rainbow? |
| 22:30.16 | [Liquidor] | http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v451/a771cu2/uinew.jpg :> |
| 22:30.30 | ckknight | Punkie`: it has straight, left parabola, and right parabola |
| 22:30.33 | Punkie` | [Liquidor]: what the crap is that? |
| 22:30.39 | ckknight | Punkie`: no rainbow, though |
| 22:30.44 | Punkie` | ckknight: damn, rainbow is for ultimate justice |
| 22:30.53 | ckknight | it'd be easy to hack in |
| 22:30.56 | [Liquidor] | or http://home.comcast.net/~wildblade/screenshots/warlockui.jpg rofl |
| 22:30.57 | ckknight | I just don't know what it'd look like |
| 22:31.04 | ckknight | Punkie`: one big goal is hackability |
| 22:31.19 | Punkie` | ok |
| 22:31.48 | Punkie` | I'm going to bed now, I'll hack in the rainbow on a local copy tomorrow and commit it if it's nice, sound ok? |
| 22:31.56 | ckknight | yea, that'd be fine |
| 22:32.03 | CIA-22 | 03cryect * r42663 10Recount/ (5 files): Recount - Better use of defaults for combatants |
| 22:32.06 | Punkie` | oki doke |
| 22:32.08 | ckknight | just in Animationslua |
| 22:32.16 | ckknight | err, there's a dot in there |
| 22:32.28 | Schmidt | lol |
| 22:32.37 | Punkie` | yeah, i've seen it :) |
| 22:32.40 | Schmidt | ckknight: Thanks for the fix on the UnitSex functions |
| 22:32.40 | CIA-22 | 03krytharn * r42664 10Reputation/Reputation.lua: |
| 22:32.40 | CIA-22 | Reputation: -changed the faction message, since "watching the 'The Mag'har' faction" did not look that great. |
| 22:32.40 | CIA-22 | -support for localisation will be added in the near future, stay tuned. |
| 22:32.48 | Punkie` | g'night! |
| 22:32.52 | ckknight | Schmidt: :-) |
| 22:33.02 | ckknight | Schmidt: I'm not gonna put Neuter in, I think |
| 22:33.08 | ckknight | Schmidt: it'll just be blank |
| 22:33.11 | ckknight | i.e. no sex |
| 22:33.13 | Schmidt | i was so irritated that everything was labeled either blank or "f" |
| 22:33.14 | Schmidt | that sounds fine |
| 22:33.25 | hypetech | how do you get that super far back view for the in game camera? |
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| 22:33.56 | yasuo | change the bar in the interface-menu? |
| 22:34.00 | Schmidt | hypetech: In video options there's a slider for distance behind your character you can move. |
| 22:34.27 | Schmidt | hypetech: Near the middle, I think. |
| 22:38.25 | [Liquidor] | ckknight, what is a parabola? |
| 22:38.35 | *** part/#wowace Antiarc|Work (n=cheald@208.187.119.42) |
| 22:38.43 | ckknight | [Liquidor]: y = x^2 |
| 22:38.50 | ckknight | that shape |
| 22:38.54 | [Liquidor] | arh ok |
| 22:39.10 | ckknight | it's an easily calculable curve |
| 22:39.18 | [Liquidor] | =) |
| 22:39.35 | Gnarfoz | hypetech: you have to change the variable that slider controls to some number far greater than the slider allows for it to be "super far back" ^^ |
| 22:40.15 | Mikk | hypetech: or get seriously drunk. that allows you to zoom back lots too :P |
| 22:40.56 | yasuo | <Gnarfoz> hypetech: you have to change the variable that slider controls to some number far greater than the slider allows for it to be "super far back" ^^ <<< how tro do that by hand? |
| 22:41.04 | *** mode/#wowace [+v KarlThePagan] by ChanServ |
| 22:41.09 | Arrowmaster | afaik theres no builtin slider that controls the distance you can zoom out |
| 22:41.15 | Mikk | Arrowmaster: there is |
| 22:41.17 | [Liquidor] | there is |
| 22:41.21 | [Liquidor] | Interface Options |
| 22:41.22 | sbu | eh |
| 22:41.23 | Schmidt | there is |
| 22:41.24 | [Liquidor] | General page |
| 22:41.25 | Schmidt | lol |
| 22:41.27 | Arrowmaster | whats it called then |
| 22:41.31 | sbu | i think we are too dumb for tidewalker |
| 22:41.38 | sbu | i dont get it... |
| 22:41.39 | Mikk | "Max Camera Distance" |
| 22:41.45 | [Liquidor] | But it's limited to 35 yards. Make it 100 <3 |
| 22:41.46 | Gnarfoz | hyperChipmunk: cameraDistanceMax |
| 22:41.47 | Arrowmaster | ah now i see it |
| 22:41.52 | durcyn | set cameraDistanceMaxFactor |
| 22:41.55 | yasuo | however, how do you set variables manually? |
| 22:41.56 | durcyn | scales from 1 to 2, normally |
| 22:42.08 | Schmidt | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:42.09 | Schmidt | lol |
| 22:42.16 | [Liquidor] | there's a limit |
| 22:42.34 | Schmidt | if that's the name of the variable |
| 22:42.43 | Gnarfoz | cameraDistanceMax is the one you want to increase |
| 22:42.45 | Arrowmaster | yeah, whats that slider change exactly? the cameraDistanceMax cvar? |
| 22:42.48 | [Liquidor] | I tried to expand it so far so I could sneak on the players on the other side of the arena just after start |
| 22:42.49 | Mikk | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:43.02 | Schmidt | no need to say SET, afaik |
| 22:43.02 | Mikk | omg evil |
| 22:43.03 | Cryect | the cvar can only be set to 50 |
| 22:43.05 | sbu | ckknight - early wish from my MT (parrot) ;o make some sticky/big "crushing hit, you fail!" message :/ |
| 22:43.09 | Cryect | max |
| 22:43.18 | ckknight | sbu: hrm... |
| 22:43.45 | ckknight | well, that'd be handled by a trigger. |
| 22:43.47 | Arrowmaster | that slider doesnt seem to be changing cameraDistanceMax |
| 22:43.48 | Cryect | you can use other camera cvars if oyu want to go further but you can't zoom out smoothly to them and if you try to zoom out it brings you to 50 :-/ |
| 22:43.53 | sbu | is that possible? since it is no specific combat event (like "you gain xyz buff") |
| 22:43.58 | Schmidt | slouken used /console varname 0 |
| 22:44.20 | Arrowmaster | ah the slider changes cameraDistanceMaxFactor |
| 22:44.29 | Arrowmaster | ive always just changed cameraDistanceMax |
| 22:44.34 | ckknight | sbu: everything's possible |
| 22:44.36 | sbu | ckknight: its possible on every melee hit (like crit!?) |
| 22:44.38 | sbu | heh :) |
| 22:44.47 | [Liquidor] | ckknight, almost =) |
| 22:44.47 | ckknight | sbu: it's this simple: |
| 22:44.48 | sbu | its not w/ SCT/MSBT trigger stuff i think |
| 22:44.56 | ckknight | if info.isCrushing then print ("ur a nub") end |
| 22:45.01 | sbu | oh hm |
| 22:45.07 | Schmidt | lol |
| 22:45.08 | ckknight | sbu: well, doesn't mean it can't be with Parrot triggers. |
| 22:45.10 | yasuo | hm does not work for me |
| 22:45.21 | yasuo | how do i get console outputs? |
| 22:45.26 | yasuo | errors etc |
| 22:45.33 | [Liquidor] | Wish you could increase the max object distance to scout for players further away than the default max limit |
| 22:45.37 | [Liquidor] | but you can't :/ |
| 22:45.41 | [Liquidor] | server setting |
| 22:45.43 | Schmidt | that'd be awesome |
| 22:45.59 | Mikk | not too surprising tbh |
| 22:46.04 | [Liquidor] | =) |
| 22:46.07 | sbu | ckknight: thats why i'm asking :) everything is possible somehow - and as long as it is in an early development state - triggering could be done more generic ;o |
| 22:46.29 | sbu | btw - did you read my 'ping'? (overheal/crit overheal stuff) |
| 22:46.29 | [Liquidor] | well you can sniff your ports and scout for invisible players at least *cough* hack *cough* |
| 22:46.31 | *** join/#wowace Sole (n=chatzill@203.109.161.194) |
| 22:46.34 | ckknight | sbu: currently events are arbitrary, i.e. 3rd parties can add events arbitrarily |
| 22:46.39 | Sole | hi guys |
| 22:46.40 | ckknight | sbu: I want to make triggers be the same |
| 22:46.42 | ckknight | hey Sole |
| 22:46.45 | Schmidt | Liquidor: but it would suck for peeps like me with slow computers so we'd be forced to have short ranges for that : |
| 22:46.47 | Schmidt | :( |
| 22:47.07 | Sole | Orc or Undead for a warlock? |
| 22:47.14 | Sole | from a pvp standpoint |
| 22:47.16 | Schmidt | Human |
| 22:47.18 | [Liquidor] | my laptop is on 80FPS with Fraps on and top gfx settings <3 |
| 22:47.29 | Schmidt | :$ |
| 22:47.37 | Sole | My WoW doesnt report an fps past my refresh rate :( |
| 22:47.42 | Mikk | Sole: Undead to own other locks :P |
| 22:47.43 | Sole | so its stuck at 75 |
| 22:47.44 | [Liquidor] | 99? |
| 22:47.46 | [Liquidor] | k |
| 22:47.57 | Schmidt | :( |
| 22:48.01 | Sole | sometimes it drops to 60 for about 2 seconds |
| 22:48.06 | Sole | thats when I freak out |
| 22:48.06 | Arrowmaster | ah ok so cameraDistanceMax = 15 (the default) and cameraDistanceMaxFactor = 2 is the exact same as cameraDistanceMax = 30 and cameraDistanceMaxFactor = 1 |
| 22:48.08 | Mikk | Turn vsync off |
| 22:48.10 | Schmidt | oh noes! lol |
| 22:48.20 | Sole | oh yah vsync |
| 22:48.23 | Sole | forgot about that |
| 22:48.28 | yasuo | hmm i cant get more than /console SET cameraDistanceMax 3 |
| 22:48.36 | Sole | Mikk: your point is valid |
| 22:48.40 | durcyn | cameraDistanceMaxFactor seems to top out at 3.4 |
| 22:48.46 | durcyn | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:48.50 | Gnarfoz | <[Liquidor]> well you can sniff your ports and scout for invisible players at least *cough* hack *cough* <-- your client doesn't know about stealthed or invisible units until they get visible |
| 22:48.58 | Sole | Mikk: orcs have an advantage over rogues, paladins, taurens, warriors (lolherald) |
| 22:49.03 | Mikk | durcyn: more like 3.4*15=50 |
| 22:49.07 | Arrowmaster | cameraDistanceMax maxes out at 50 i think, if you set it low and try 60 it wont change |
| 22:49.08 | Sole | Mikk: but undead have an advantage over priests/locks/warriors |
| 22:49.11 | [Liquidor] | Gnarfoz, that's what you think =) |
| 22:49.18 | Sole | + cannibalize is a good life saver |
| 22:49.33 | Gnarfoz | [Liquidor]: it's what wowradar authors confirmed (hax!) |
| 22:49.35 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r42665 10Parrot/Events.lua: Parrot_Events - fix typo with offhand enchant |
| 22:49.51 | Sole | ok gimme a name |
| 22:50.00 | [Liquidor] | Not everything is for the public |
| 22:50.24 | Mikk | Sausage |
| 22:50.37 | Sole | hmmm |
| 22:50.39 | Sole | I like it |
| 22:50.40 | Mikk | Feedme |
| 22:50.47 | [Liquidor] | They don't give out software that actually works and avoids the Warden. The client takes care of nearly everything. even the chat of the opposite faction is untranslated when reaching your ports |
| 22:51.15 | Mikk | [Liquidor]: seriously? they leave garbling up to the local client? |
| 22:51.19 | [Liquidor] | herbs, mines... everything is sent to your client |
| 22:51.21 | [Liquidor] | yes |
| 22:51.31 | Schmidt | ckknight: What does Parrot show in the way of weapon enchants? Stuff like slowing poison, instant poison, or what? |
| 22:51.33 | Sole | both taken Mikk |
| 22:51.42 | ckknight | Schmidt: um, yea. |
| 22:51.49 | [Liquidor] | Mikk, it's to lower the traffic |
| 22:52.12 | Arrowmaster | mmo's leave lots of stuff up to the local client due to server load too |
| 22:52.22 | Arrowmaster | like wow leaves max speed up to the client |
| 22:52.28 | Mikk | Well, if they really wanted to lower traffic, they could just send a command "generate a 23-character random string pl0x" |
| 22:52.30 | [Liquidor] | ye =) |
| 22:52.41 | [Liquidor] | well |
| 22:53.07 | Mikk | the server cpu crunching argument sounds a lot more likely :> |
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| 22:53.20 | [Liquidor] | dunno why everything is settled in the client but everything you can see either on the minimap, channels, and in the world frame is sent to your client decoded |
| 22:53.51 | [Liquidor] | Mobs, treasures... everything |
| 22:54.25 | Mikk | well, you obviously need coordinates of all objects transmitted |
| 22:54.29 | Mikk | since they get painted on the screen |
| 22:54.32 | yasuo | /console set cameraDistanceMaxFactor 5 << this is my maximum |
| 22:54.41 | [Liquidor] | Mikk, indeed |
| 22:54.48 | ckknight | Schmidt: and shaman's windfury/rockbiter/etc. |
| 22:54.49 | Mikk | yasuo: if so, your cameraDistanceMax is 10 |
| 22:55.01 | [Liquidor] | But Herb+Mine gathering is a nono with the default wow you know. |
| 22:55.31 | [Liquidor] | Activating Herb Gathering doesn't tell the server just to send you herb nodes only. Just toggles your client |
| 22:55.33 | Mikk | tracking you mean |
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| 22:55.41 | [Liquidor] | ye w/e =) |
| 22:55.48 | [Liquidor] | tail, ench here hehe |
| 22:55.52 | Mikk | of course that's the only thing that happens |
| 22:56.02 | yasuo | hmm dotn get it.. how do i get the most distance? |
| 22:56.03 | Mikk | otherwise it wouldn't be able to paint the nodes on screen |
| 22:56.07 | Mikk | worldframe i mean |
| 22:56.27 | Arrowmaster | yasuo: /script SetCVar("cameraDistanceMax", 50) |
| 22:56.28 | [Liquidor] | well best part is the chat "translation" and the invisiblity tracking. |
| 22:56.32 | Mikk | yasuo: cameraDistanceMax x cameraDistanceMaxFactor is limited to 50 |
| 22:56.56 | yasuo | ok got it |
| 22:57.11 | yasuo | thought i could watch from space or so XD |
| 22:57.21 | Arrowmaster | you used to be able to |
| 22:57.30 | [Liquidor] | ye |
| 22:57.37 | [Liquidor] | like in this movie *googles* |
| 22:57.54 | Arrowmaster | unlimited escapism? |
| 22:58.06 | [Liquidor] | http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-8825699868685791451 |
| 22:58.10 | [Liquidor] | Nice music too |
| 22:58.12 | [Liquidor] | Really ! |
| 22:58.29 | [Liquidor] | I don't know why but I can't stop watching the vid as soon as it starts |
| 22:58.33 | Schmidt | ckknight: Thanks. I will have to check it out to understand it, really. tbh, it doesn't look like something I'd be interested in myself. Is there a particular class or set of classes that it is more useful for? I don't see the purpose of it for a mage or a paladin, right off. |
| 22:58.54 | ckknight | Schmidt: the whole addon is useful to all classes |
| 22:59.01 | ckknight | btw, I play a pally |
| 22:59.18 | [Liquidor] | You play wow? |
| 22:59.20 | Schmidt | PALLIES RULE! lol |
| 22:59.24 | Schmidt | lol liquidor |
| 23:00.17 | Schmidt | About herbs and mines and such appearing on the minimap -- how can we not get coords for locations in an instance, if this is so what you are saying? |
| 23:00.46 | [Liquidor] | huh? |
| 23:00.53 | [Liquidor] | 2 sec, gotta read that question a couple of times |
| 23:00.58 | Schmidt | lol liq |
| 23:01.14 | Schmidt | My question is: |
| 23:01.16 | [Liquidor] | What locations? |
| 23:01.43 | Schmidt | How can we not get coords to locations in an instance, yet our client can get the locations to put the nodes on our minimap. Does that make sense? |
| 23:02.09 | [Liquidor] | You can't see anything on a map outside your MaxObjectDistance or wtf that variable name is. Unless you use Mind Vision or a Warlock Eye (tho then you just transfer the objectdistance to the new unit) |
| 23:02.37 | [Liquidor] | But ehm |
| 23:02.38 | Schmidt | You don't understand my question. :( |
| 23:02.59 | [Liquidor] | There's a difference in "Coords" as we use them ingame and what the client reads from the data packages. |
| 23:03.03 | Schmidt | Someone said the client receives the coords to the node. |
| 23:03.24 | Schmidt | Yeah, I'm kinda dumb like that. |
| 23:03.45 | [Liquidor] | Well you prolly can, but how would I know? It's out of my interest so haven't sniffed my ports in instances. |
| 23:03.48 | Schmidt | I completely forgot that the API functions have to allow us to get the coords. |
| 23:04.03 | [Liquidor] | I'm utterly confused here. |
| 23:04.11 | [Liquidor] | What was your question again? |
| 23:04.23 | Kinkx | ~seen nymbia |
| 23:04.26 | purl | nymbia <n=nymbia@71-218-154-164.hlrn.qwest.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 22h 55m 33s ago, saying: 'Funkeh`: WHERE'. |
| 23:04.35 | Mikk | "/console cameraDistanceMoveSpeed 50" <- win |
| 23:04.37 | Schmidt | Liquidor: Nevermind. |
| 23:04.57 | [Liquidor] | Schmidt, it doesn't matter what's possible sniffing your ports or not cause you ain't allowed to do so. |
| 23:05.23 | [Liquidor] | What you can do and what you're allowed to is 2 diff. things. I'm sure you know that already ;-) |
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| 23:07.30 | Schmidt | Liquidor: Right. I lost sight of that somehow. |
| 23:07.44 | Sole | FUCK |
| 23:07.45 | Sole | FUCK |
| 23:07.50 | Sole | Team NZ lost the america's cup by 1 second |
| 23:07.51 | Schmidt | yay |
| 23:08.01 | Sole | fucking swiss |
| 23:08.08 | Anmoch_ | Sole: hey! |
| 23:08.14 | Schmidt | Who was in the lead preceding that? |
| 23:09.29 | yasuo | http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=9033539924065638946&q=world+of+warcraft+zom&total=23&start=0&num=10&so=0&type=search&plindex=7 <<< what about this? still possible? |
| 23:10.06 | yasuo | oh tehres a howto in tehcoment :P |
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| 23:10.15 | yasuo | *trying out* |
| 23:10.41 | Sole | oh fuck |
| 23:10.43 | Sole | NZ was way in the lead |
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| 23:10.49 | Sole | they were double penalized |
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| 23:12.46 | Sole | damn my server, launch servers suck for making new characters |
| 23:12.50 | Sole | so hard to get a name that isnt taken |
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| 23:13.13 | yasuo | yay! |
| 23:13.24 | KarlThePagan | somehow I was able to get 5-6 good programming language names on my launch server ;) |
| 23:13.25 | gnorlish | try xXxlegolassxXx |
| 23:13.32 | Mikk | îllïdãñ |
| 23:13.35 | yasuo | open camera-settings.txt and change disctance there (backup before) worx :D |
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| 23:15.01 | Schmidt | Karl: like what? |
| 23:15.13 | KarlThePagan | basic, assembly, cobol |
| 23:15.28 | Schmidt | lol |
| 23:15.31 | KarlThePagan | javabean makes a great gnome name |
| 23:15.37 | Schmidt | rofl |
| 23:15.40 | Sole | I need a female UD name :( |
| 23:15.41 | aen` | i wish baggins would hide the keyring from the mainbag :/ |
| 23:15.47 | Sole | female UD caster animations > male UD anims |
| 23:15.50 | Schmidt | Sole: Elizabeth |
| 23:15.54 | gnorlish | is she a mage? |
| 23:15.55 | CIA-22 | 03damjau * r42666 10beql/localization-ko.lua: beql: - update koKR locals |
| 23:15.58 | Sole | shes a lock |
| 23:16.05 | Sole | and no Elizabeth is most likely taken and its bad |
| 23:16.06 | Hjalte | aen`, that's easy to fix. |
| 23:16.18 | Mikk | Eatyou |
| 23:16.20 | durcyn | "Shadow...bolt...tits"? |
| 23:16.20 | Schmidt | Sole: not bad! It's an awesome dead-person's name |
| 23:16.27 | durcyn | i got nothin'. |
| 23:16.30 | aen` | Hjalte: please indulge ive been looking all day, even deleting all filters related to keys |
| 23:16.38 | Mikk | Boltitis |
| 23:16.41 | gnorlish | solestealer |
| 23:16.46 | Schmidt | lol |
| 23:16.46 | Sole | Schmidt: its not bad ass enough |
| 23:16.57 | KarlThePagan | Sole, how about "imapwnu" |
| 23:17.00 | KarlThePagan | :P |
| 23:17.03 | Mikk | Afflictionate |
| 23:17.10 | KarlThePagan | that's a great one |
| 23:17.10 | Schmidt | Sole: I'm assuming this is not on an RP server |
| 23:17.15 | Schmidt | Mikk: lol awesome |
| 23:17.41 | Sole | no its not |
| 23:17.57 | Sole | its on one of the harshest, most asshole-populated pvp servers in this game |
| 23:18.04 | Hjalte | aen`, edit bags, then move keyring to somewhere else. Ammo for example, that's the one i use, since i dont open it with the other bags. I don't see the counter anymore. |
| 23:18.06 | Mikk | haha |
| 23:18.26 | yasuo | how do i set the distance shit back to default? my tooltip is not transparent anymore now q_q |
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| 23:18.42 | Sole | lol you remember the default number and set it back in the camera settings file |
| 23:18.48 | Schmidt | lol |
| 23:19.03 | yasuo | no i dont mean the file |
| 23:19.05 | Schmidt | if you have to you might want to create a new char on another server and ge tthe default value from there |
| 23:19.12 | aen` | Hjalte: i dont even have filters(categories) related to keys |
| 23:19.43 | Arrowmaster | yasuo: are you talking about the defaults for the CVars? |
| 23:19.49 | aen` | my main bag doesnt even have a filter for it period |
| 23:19.52 | Mikk | aen`: Make a keyring bag, showing a keyring category, which shows "Container Type: Keyring" |
| 23:19.56 | Hjalte | aen`, in your edit categories menu, there is no "keyring" category? |
| 23:20.03 | Mikk | Set that bag to not open with "all" |
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| 23:20.17 | aen` | no, i deleted it so hopefully keys wouldnt show up |
| 23:20.23 | *** mode/#wowace [+o Cair] by ChanServ |
| 23:20.26 | Mikk | that's not how it works :P |
| 23:20.48 | yasuo | dunno, i executed some /console set and /script commands posted here but now my toltip frame is not gray anymore |
| 23:20.49 | Mikk | At least not as long as you're showing "Other" |
| 23:21.00 | aen` | ah |
| 23:21.06 | aen` | Mikk: got it, still shows the empty count though |
| 23:21.19 | aen` | in "main" bag |
| 23:21.26 | yasuo | or i just activated an addon wich was not activated before because every monster has another color in the tooltip frame |
| 23:21.27 | Mikk | weird |
| 23:21.28 | Mikk | sec |
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| 23:22.00 | RogueShadow | grr. I hate it when I am disconnected. Somebody actually came and closed the window. |
| 23:22.32 | Arrowmaster | yasuo: for all the /console set and /scripts that were posted in here you can do /print GetCVarDefault("var") to find the defaults |
| 23:22.49 | Mikk | yasuo: Edit the "KeyRing" category. Uncheck "Ignore empty slots" |
| 23:22.56 | Mikk | oups |
| 23:23.00 | Mikk | aen` : Edit the "KeyRing" category. Uncheck "Ignore empty slots" |
| 23:23.26 | aen` | Mikk: ty, worked like a charm |
| 23:24.10 | aen` | that was bothering me for days |
| 23:24.15 | yasuo | Mikk: keyring? \WTF\ are you talking about ^^ |
| 23:24.25 | Mikk | yasuo: mistab |
| 23:24.35 | yasuo | an addon? |
| 23:24.44 | Mikk | i didn't mean to talk to you |
| 23:24.51 | yasuo | ok XD |
| 23:25.06 | yasuo | aah mistab..ok |
| 23:25.13 | aen` | now i need to figure out why mendeleev isnt holding settings properly |
| 23:25.24 | yasuo | a lazy irc-user ^^ |
| 23:26.09 | yasuo | Arrowmaster: when i paste that i cannot press enter |
| 23:26.43 | Arrowmaster | did you change the var to the vars you changed? |
| 23:26.45 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r42667 10Parser-3.0/Parser-3.0/Parser-3.0.lua: Parser-3.0 - change how the Create eventType works |
| 23:26.53 | Adirelle | hrm... is there any kind of parser for weapon enchants ? |
| 23:27.26 | durcyn | in what context? damage done by them? |
| 23:27.27 | Arrowmaster | Adirelle: temp enchants or perment enchants? |
| 23:27.32 | Adirelle | temp |
| 23:28.14 | ckknight | Adirelle: I was thinking of adding it to SpecialEventsEmbed-Aura |
| 23:28.41 | ckknight | I dunno, though |
| 23:28.46 | Adirelle | in fact, I was mainly thinking of detecting which temp enchants is on a weapon |
| 23:28.55 | ckknight | Adirelle: I just added that to Parrot :-P |
| 23:29.15 | Adirelle | woot |
| 23:29.21 | Adirelle | taking a look, thx |
| 23:29.26 | Strigoi | ckknight is it in any kind of usable state atm ? :p |
| 23:29.29 | Schmidt | I see that "WAU2 beta started"... how do I get a hold of this newfangled bundle of technology? |
| 23:29.32 | Strigoi | can't wait to test it |
| 23:29.35 | ckknight | Strigoi: yea, but still alpha quality |
| 23:29.45 | ckknight | Schmidt: #wau |
| 23:29.49 | Strigoi | yeah ofc i understtand this |
| 23:29.51 | CIA-22 | 03gagorian * r42668 10DrDamage/DrDamage.lua: |
| 23:29.51 | CIA-22 | DrDamage: |
| 23:29.51 | CIA-22 | - Moved mana calculations from the tooltip display function to the calculation engine |
| 23:29.51 | CIA-22 | - Added new actionbar display options: DPM, Mana Cost, True Mana Cost and MPS |
| 23:30.06 | Gnarfoz | Schmidt: |
| 23:30.08 | Gnarfoz | ~wau2 |
| 23:30.08 | purl | i guess wau2 is http://wowace.com/wau2 |
| 23:30.38 | Schmidt | thanks |
| 23:31.35 | ckknight | Strigoi: but it works, it just has no options yet |
| 23:31.53 | Strigoi | yeah gonna check it :) |
| 23:32.03 | ckknight | I'm adding soul shard creation now... |
| 23:32.10 | ckknight | then I'll be finally done with events |
| 23:32.40 | Adirelle | ckknight: got the regex, but seems I'm gonna have to write a buffname => buff source "database" |
| 23:32.43 | Schmidt | Now I really have to check out this Parrot. I have no comprehension of how it might be good, but hey--that's how I started downloading addons in the first place, right? |
| 23:32.57 | ckknight | Adirelle: ah, yea. |
| 23:33.17 | ckknight | just realize that it's alpha quality |
| 23:33.32 | Adirelle | ckknight: or I keep SSR being lazy with weapon buff recognition |
| 23:33.46 | Schmidt | I gotcha. I'm familiar with broken addons ---> DogTag :P |
| 23:34.39 | Schmidt | wow, wau2 is certainly pretty -- Look at all the shinies! |
| 23:36.45 | Schmidt | can anyone tell me what TGuildFrame is for? it says "an advanced GuildFrame"... so, what's that? lol |
| 23:37.10 | sbu | ckknight: mh - events? like "clearcasting" stuff (special auras) or only 'special events' like soul shard etc.? |
| 23:37.35 | ckknight | sbu: well, Clearcasting is under "Buff Gains" |
| 23:37.58 | sbu | hmyep |
| 23:38.01 | ckknight | but you can have custom triggers where you choose "Buff Gains" -> "Clearcasting", show a certain message |
| 23:38.08 | sbu | ah okay |
| 23:39.40 | sbu | bah i need some more hints for tidewalker, cannot sleep anymore... :o |
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| 23:39.55 | CIA-22 | 03mitchell * r42669 10RangeCheck-1.0/RangeCheck-1.0.toc: RangeCheck-1.0: GratuityLib fix |
| 23:40.27 | sbu | is it possible to do the murlocs w/o actually tanking them? only frostnova, earthbind totem, etc... aka kite them aroung while bombing (seed of corruption, fire blast, ...) |
| 23:41.13 | sbu | every murloc wave 1 AE guy dies... and i have NO idea what they are doing |
| 23:41.25 | sbu | (and no, its not possible to heal, looks like 1-hit (aka. 1 hits from 5 mobs -> instant death) |
| 23:41.26 | sbu | *sigggh* |
| 23:42.12 | Strigoi | use pala tank ;p |
| 23:42.27 | sbu | well dont have one :p |
| 23:42.37 | sbu | but it should be absolutely no problem w/ warri tank |
| 23:42.43 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r42670 10Parrot/Events.lua: Parrot_Events - add Soul Shard Gain |
| 23:42.47 | sbu | thunderclap, demo shout... no problem |
| 23:42.57 | sbu | to 'bind' them (keeping them from hurting healers) |
| 23:43.01 | ckknight | alright, all events done |
| 23:43.01 | durcyn | sbu: frost trap both sides, start aoe once the closer pack is there, then nova once the second group shows up |
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| 23:43.29 | Strigoi | ofc it shouldn't but it so much easier with pala tanking, and you dont even need special spec for it :) last time i was there holy pala did tanking thing ppretty good :) |
| 23:43.39 | Kemayo | I'm looking for a wording suggestion -- currently QuestsFu has a module called Announce, which says things in party chat when quest objectives are completed, and PartyNotify, which displays local messages when other people's objectives are completed. I can't keep them straight myself -- any ideas for better names? |
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| 23:44.04 | sbu | durcyn: well, aoe start -> mages running here and there (because they are to dumb?) and its impossible then to nova them at 1 place... :/ |
| 23:44.40 | ckknight | alright, I'm gonna go to my brother's place |
| 23:45.00 | Strigoi | have fun :) |
| 23:46.29 | Schmidt | Strigoi: Holy pallies can tank better than ret pallies, in general--specifically in the area of aoe tanking. |
| 23:46.43 | CIA-22 | 03mitchell * r42671 10RangeDisplay/ (RangeDisplay.lua RangeDisplay.toc locales/ locales/enUS.lua): RangeDisplay: fixed most of the bad things from drycoding |
| 23:47.06 | Schmidt | Because more of their damage is holy (not white), so Righteous Fury boosts aggro better. |
| 23:47.32 | sbu | striper: mh, holy pally dies after few hits :o |
| 23:47.41 | Schmidt | and ret doesn't? |
| 23:47.46 | sbu | no idea :) |
| 23:47.53 | Schmidt | Anyways, obviously it depends on gear. |
| 23:48.09 | sbu | but OUR holy pally is too dumb to generate enough aggro |
| 23:48.10 | Schmidt | Ret is for the birds, and for people who really know what they're doing. |
| 23:48.43 | sbu | chain heal shammy generates way more aggro... |
| 23:48.49 | Schmidt | But 99% of the ret pallies I've ever met aren't worth the 70 levels they've spent. |
| 23:49.19 | Schmidt | You can't use chain heal to tank, can you? |
| 23:49.35 | Mikk | no |
| 23:49.42 | Mikk | pally healing has very low threat for this reason |
| 23:49.44 | Schmidt | I mean, it doesn't seem like you'd even want to bother trying to tank using that to grab aggro. |
| 23:49.59 | Mikk | it rocks hard for grabbing the attention of lots of mobs tho |
| 23:50.06 | *** join/#wowace ven (n=ven@i59F57F55.versanet.de) |
| 23:50.06 | Mikk | slap the puller with a heal just as he's pulling =) |
| 23:50.19 | Schmidt | ah, true |
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| 23:50.55 | Schmidt | My GM told me he has had to put salvation on himself because the tank really sucks. |
| 23:51.06 | Mikk | ... |
| 23:51.07 | Schmidt | Personally it doesn't make sense. I've never had to. I've used only wisdom on myself. |
| 23:51.18 | Mikk | your GM wear a lot of +spelldmg? |
| 23:51.27 | Schmidt | I've grabbed aggro a few times, but not enough to warrant dropping wisdom for it. |
| 23:51.50 | Mikk | what i'd like to see is a holy pally wearing mage gear |
| 23:52.00 | Mikk | i think he'd do nice damage |
| 23:52.10 | Mikk | just all-out spelldmg |
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| 23:52.33 | Mikk | pallies in my guild won't ablige though :-( |
| 23:52.41 | *** join/#wowace Schmidt_ (n=Schmidt@user-0cal9tk.cable.mindspring.com) |
| 23:52.43 | Mikk | i'm gonna have to go level my healerdin >.< |
| 23:52.57 | Schmidt_ | What spec and what level, Mikk? |
| 23:53.01 | Schmidt_ | err |
| 23:53.06 | Schmidt_ | I mean holy healing, or holy dps? |
| 23:53.07 | sbu | our pally didnt even realize that we changed from warrior tank to druid tank... until the warrior said "hey, stop healing me, bear is tanking!" :/ |
| 23:53.10 | sbu | *sigh* |
| 23:53.16 | sbu | wtb real pally |
| 23:53.17 | Schmidt_ | lol sbu |
| 23:53.34 | Aenslaed | wow, thats awful |
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| 23:53.45 | Mikk | haha standard pally |
| 23:53.50 | sbu | standard horde pally... |
| 23:53.51 | kaiden^ | *brain picking time, where's the best place to farm mageweave |
| 23:53.52 | kaiden^ | :P |
| 23:53.52 | sbu | yes... :o |
| 23:53.53 | Mikk | "Hm, I head fight noises. Ok, start mashing flash" |
| 23:53.54 | Schmidt_ | if you can't tell who to heal, well... |
| 23:54.06 | Mikk | hear* |
| 23:54.06 | Aenslaed | kaiden: harpies in north west feralas |
| 23:54.25 | Schmidt_ | Mikk, is your pally holy dps, or just holy healing? |
| 23:54.26 | Aenslaed | trolls in hinterlands |
| 23:54.28 | Schmidt_ | and what level? |
| 23:54.34 | Mikk | holy healing, 60 |
| 23:54.44 | Mikk | not enough t2 to actually be able to do holy damage |
| 23:54.45 | Schmidt_ | holy dps ftw, which is my pally atm |
| 23:54.49 | Mikk | gogo lolretri gear >.< |
| 23:54.56 | Schmidt_ | ret gear ftl |
| 23:54.59 | Mikk | mhm |
| 23:55.00 | Mikk | i know |
| 23:55.04 | Schmidt_ | i hate seeing warrior gear on a pally |
| 23:55.09 | Thrae | Mikk: What's his name and on what server? |
| 23:55.13 | Mikk | but remember that's all that was available back then |
| 23:55.28 | Mikk | Thrae: Stmikk, Bloodhoof-EU |
| 23:55.32 | Schmidt_ | yeah, i do remember. i made a lvl 60 pally a long time ago on a server far away |
| 23:55.36 | stavmar | I am getting an error with assessment r42478 http://ace.pastey.net/70296 should I just reinstall it? |
| 23:55.44 | Thrae | #char eu bloodhoof stmikk |
| 23:55.47 | ThraeBot | Thrae: Stmikk, Level 60 Paladin (15/0/36). 3741 HP; 4172 Mana; 222 Str; 254 Sta; 109 Agi; 196 Int; 4173 Armour; 8 mp5; +10 defense; 8.47% dodge; 5.24% block; 702 AP; 84 +spell dmg; 108 +heal; +10% frost resist; +10% arcane resist; +15% shadow resist; +10% fire resist. |
| 23:55.51 | kaiden^ | Aenslaed, cool, not liking the trolls in hinterlands so i'll try the harpies |
| 23:55.51 | Mikk | whoa |
| 23:55.56 | Schmidt_ | i was a noob back then and thought damage was all i could do |
| 23:55.58 | sbu | heh |
| 23:56.00 | sbu | thats cool |
| 23:56.18 | Schmidt_ | #char lightninghoof giulian |
| 23:56.20 | Schmidt_ | -.- |
| 23:56.26 | Adirelle | eeek.... Weapon temp enchants are watched with an OnUpdate function in FrameXML |
| 23:56.28 | kaiden^ | you forgo the eu |
| 23:56.30 | Thrae | Schmidt_: Need to specify us or eu |
| 23:56.32 | Schmidt_ | i'm not eu |
| 23:56.38 | Schmidt_ | #char us lightninghoof giulian |
| 23:56.41 | kaiden^ | #char us KhazModan Mugwump |
| 23:56.43 | Schmidt_ | -.- |
| 23:56.48 | aen` | wheres the zone in for magtheridons lair |
| 23:56.49 | sbu | broken? :p |
| 23:56.56 | kaiden^ | Thrae, do you replace spaces with _? |
| 23:56.59 | Schmidt_ | I R SMRT |
| 23:56.59 | mikma | anyone use beql? |
| 23:57.12 | Thrae | kaiden^: You can't have spaces in your name for us or eu |
| 23:57.40 | ThraeBot | Schmidt_: that is not the character you're looking for! |
| 23:57.44 | ThraeBot | kaiden^: that is not the character you're looking for! |
| 23:57.46 | CIA-22 | 03kemayo * r42672 10PartyToGo/ (. Core.lua PartyToGo.toc embeds.xml): |
| 23:57.46 | CIA-22 | PartyToGo: Initial (drycoded) import. |
| 23:57.47 | CIA-22 | -Basically the Announce and PartyNotify QuestsFu modules packaged separately, for people who don't want the overhead of QuestsFu. |
| 23:57.47 | Schmidt_ | lol |
| 23:57.48 | Mikk | haha |
| 23:57.55 | kaiden^ | Thrae, darn :( |
| 23:58.11 | Thrae | #char us lightninghoof giulian |
| 23:58.12 | Schmidt_ | the jedi mind tricks! headache! |
| 23:58.24 | Mikk | and yeah, as you can see, i even specced stmikk lolretri in an attempt to squeeze out some more damage of him the other week |
| 23:58.27 | Mikk | didn't help jack shit |
| 23:58.28 | Thrae | I think the Armory is having problems because today is Tuesday |
| 23:58.33 | Mikk | just went oom faster |
| 23:58.40 | ThraeBot | Thrae: Giulian, Level 70 Paladin (43/18/0). 6747 HP; 8463 Mana; 150 Str; 355 Sta; 386 Int; 147 Spi; 6151 Armour; 91 mp5; 3.73% dodge; 5% block; +63 spell crit rating; 164 +spell dmg; 1164 +heal. |
| 23:58.40 | Thrae | I see HTTP timeouts on the bot |
| 23:58.49 | *** join/#wowace Shirik (i=nospam@216-164-200-165.s1943.apx1.atn.pa.dialup.rcn.com) |
| 23:58.54 | *** mode/#wowace [+v Shirik] by ChanServ |
| 23:59.05 | Mikk | Aha, I see a holy/prot raid utility spec |
| 23:59.08 | Thrae | #api UnitBuff |
| 23:59.11 | ThraeBot | Thrae: name, rank, iconTexture, count, duration, timeLeft = UnitBuff(unit, buffIndex[, castable]); |
| 23:59.15 | yasuo | how do i enable to see a name above every monster, even the ones far away? |
| 23:59.15 | Thrae | Bot also has something more useful for the channel ;) |
| 23:59.23 | Mikk | whoa |
| 23:59.29 | Schmidt_ | well i wanted some relics from my prot days |
| 23:59.40 | Shirik | yasuo: What do you mean? |
| 23:59.45 | Shirik | the nameplates? |
| 23:59.50 | Kirkburn | http://www.trekp.com/posters/gw052-vulcanology.jpg |
