| 00:00.03 | NeoTron | I would love to see the weekly world news version of that article |
| 00:00.15 | kokice | ok i saw 'shamans are fine' learn to play =) |
| 00:00.22 | kokice | i supose thats good enough |
| 00:00.24 | Trancer | now.. what the heck is this kid doing: http://a312.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/91/l_eec9872da7ff641ece00007a763fdf9f.png |
| 00:00.35 | NeoTron | "Secret UK military project to develop man eating badgers exposed due to escaped speciment in Iraq" |
| 00:00.46 | Trancer | hah NeoTron |
| 00:00.50 | kokice | what is a nother really good toon for pvp at 70 |
| 00:00.53 | kokice | any suggestions |
| 00:01.02 | abug | hunter pet |
| 00:01.06 | Trancer | kokice: a gamemaster, makes you uberleet |
| 00:01.07 | Trisorion | Is there a guide to eePanels somewhere? |
| 00:01.20 | NeoTron | Trancer: the electic chair combined with a potty? |
| 00:01.37 | NeoTron | although I could see it as being useful for children with physical disabilities |
| 00:01.39 | Trancer | NeoTron: myeah, something like "I want you to shit your pants, bastard" |
| 00:01.48 | Trancer | NeoTron: note that the kid has his pants on o_O |
| 00:02.07 | NeoTron | well yeah |
| 00:02.10 | NeoTron | maybe it's a demo |
| 00:02.12 | kokice | Trancer: not fair |
| 00:02.13 | kokice | Trancer: i dont like |
| 00:02.21 | kokice | anything besides gamemaster ? |
| 00:02.26 | kokice | good pvp toon at 70-? |
| 00:02.34 | Chompers | abug: don't be badgerist, we don't tolerate that here |
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| 00:03.24 | jme | anyone know if imp hunter's mark's melee bonus applies to party members? |
| 00:03.35 | Wobin | Trancer: oh god, he's strapped in so he WON'T GET AWAY |
| 00:03.58 | Wobin | (He's also going to shit his pants) |
| 00:04.09 | abug | but the badgers won't be able to bite his manhood |
| 00:04.39 | Mudkips | bleh aguf can't switch fonts T_T |
| 00:04.45 | Mudkips | Maybe I'll try Pitbull |
| 00:05.07 | kokice | shamans or paly? |
| 00:05.22 | Trancer | Wobin: Hehehe |
| 00:05.32 | Trancer | poor kid |
| 00:05.37 | Trancer | all he wanted is a new haircut |
| 00:05.53 | Chompers | badgers on my MAAANHOOOOD |
| 00:05.56 | Trisorion | Pitbull is nice but I find you get a lot of errors when you randomly delete parts of the code in your addons folder |
| 00:06.33 | kokice | shamans or paladins? |
| 00:06.41 | Trancer | Trisorion: I have seen that before, when I deleted run32dll.exe my system went all bananas! |
| 00:06.50 | buu | kokice: They both lose. |
| 00:07.07 | Trancer | totemboys are easier to notice due to leftover sticks |
| 00:07.13 | Trancer | paladins glow like a frigging christmas tree |
| 00:07.30 | Chompers | i hate paladins, i leveled one to 54 because i HATE them so much, take that paladins |
| 00:07.31 | Trancer | it's a trade off, either way, you'll get picked to die first |
| 00:07.32 | Chompers | you hear me |
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| 00:07.45 | kokice | buu: oki =) |
| 00:07.51 | kokice | buu: what does not loose? |
| 00:07.59 | kokice | buu: rogue? |
| 00:08.03 | Trancer | it's like being the priest with benediction.. that's a default targetmacro on you |
| 00:08.12 | Thrae | Chompers: You can't logically complain about a class until you level it up, and if you want to complain about a class, best thing to do is leveling up one! |
| 00:08.21 | Chompers | good point |
| 00:08.36 | Chompers | soon as i hit 70 i can whine and bitch to my hearts content |
| 00:08.58 | Chompers | kokice: is this your first character? |
| 00:09.09 | abug | aha, I got it...it's a methane catcher and it's the kid's turn to power the space heater... |
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| 00:09.37 | Chompers | if it is: level a hunter, mega carebear char right there |
| 00:09.49 | jme | <- not a carebear hunter |
| 00:10.18 | kokice | Chompers: no |
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| 00:11.09 | kokice | Chompers: in that case, i learn toons very well, very fast and responsive when it comes to pvp |
| 00:11.14 | Trancer | abug: hahahah |
| 00:11.14 | kokice | Chompers: just want to know what pwns out there |
| 00:11.15 | kokice | .. |
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| 00:14.35 | Rhaene | Anyone know what to hook in order to modify party portrait dropdown menus? |
| 00:17.24 | kokice | buu: i didnt get a respnd back did i? |
| 00:19.22 | Rhaene | okay...Does anyone know how I can find out what I need to hook in order to modify / add to the party portrait right click dropdown menus? |
| 00:20.01 | kokice | Rhaene: i dont think yo uare making any sense |
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| 00:20.11 | kokice | wtf u wanan add to party portrait ? |
| 00:20.26 | kokice | download perl |
| 00:20.30 | kokice | curse gaming |
| 00:20.43 | kokice | it has ton of options on modifying party/party focus.. aswell as yourself |
| 00:22.04 | kokice | Rhaene: do you copy that? or did i just talk to the backround in this chat |
| 00:22.21 | JoshBorke | Rhaene: you have to be careful doing that because you'll taint, not sure you can |
| 00:23.16 | NeoTron | Antiarc|Work: how does Threat-1.0 handle PoM-threat? apply full level to the tank or somehow figure out the number of targets to split it on? |
| 00:23.31 | Antiarc | It splits all heals among known targets |
| 00:23.59 | NeoTron | out of curiosity how does it find out the d known targets? |
| 00:24.09 | NeoTron | like if you have a fight like Mag with 5 same-named targets |
| 00:24.12 | Antiarc | It's generally only set for boss mods |
| 00:24.15 | *** part/#wowace Guillotine (n=Guilloti@63.203.120.57) |
| 00:24.32 | Antiarc | It's usually 1, but boss mods (like mag) can set it to 5, then decrement for each channeler death |
| 00:24.40 | NeoTron | just curious is over-attribution to PoM can be a cause of some premature aggro pulling |
| 00:24.47 | NeoTron | aha I see |
| 00:26.21 | KarlThePagan | ohman ... no GM's on PTR == HP spoiler names |
| 00:26.28 | KarlThePagan | premades on PTR == lol |
| 00:26.30 | Mudkips | hahaha |
| 00:26.42 | KarlThePagan | great success! |
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| 00:27.58 | RogueShadow | Anybody here have a wireless mouse, or just a really good one you would recommend to anybody. |
| 00:28.05 | KarlThePagan | I do |
| 00:28.18 | RogueShadow | What Brand/Model |
| 00:28.24 | KarlThePagan | microsoft wireless laser 8000 |
| 00:28.35 | RogueShadow | ic |
| 00:29.14 | KarlThePagan | good: removable battery, excellent bluetooth, not bad sensitivity (recommended mouse pad), ok buttons (5) |
| 00:29.19 | RogueShadow | I had a wireless microsoft mouse once, the mouse lagged. behind the movement. it was annoying. |
| 00:29.25 | KarlThePagan | bad: "slushy" wheel |
| 00:29.39 | KarlThePagan | this one is bluetooth... so performance depends on your drivers / system |
| 00:29.39 | RogueShadow | bluetooth eh. |
| 00:29.41 | RogueShadow | that's good |
| 00:29.53 | RogueShadow | I don't have any bluetooth things. atm. |
| 00:29.54 | KarlThePagan | also has a charger (charger + removable batteries == lasts forever) |
| 00:30.02 | Mudkips | I really hate the new microsoft mouse with their tactless scroll wheels |
| 00:30.03 | RogueShadow | That's good. |
| 00:30.21 | RogueShadow | My wireless mouse seems to be getting worn out. Logitech mx700 |
| 00:30.27 | KarlThePagan | yea that was my last one |
| 00:30.34 | NeoTron | I had issues with the thumb buttons on new microsoft and logitech mice |
| 00:30.35 | KarlThePagan | loved it |
| 00:30.36 | RogueShadow | I've already warn it down to pure white plastic where it had a matt grey finish |
| 00:30.41 | KarlThePagan | haha yea |
| 00:30.48 | NeoTron | so I got a razer.. and I like it a lot despite the somewhat unusual design |
| 00:30.50 | RogueShadow | and now the charging/ holding a charge. even using normal batteries. it's all getting screwed up. |
| 00:30.51 | Mudkips | I'm still using the old intellipoint optical 5 button |
| 00:30.53 | KarlThePagan | the sensor on mine wore out... and the buttons stopped working |
| 00:31.13 | RogueShadow | :) |
| 00:31.15 | KarlThePagan | yea I like the microsoft one, sensitivity is comprable to the mx700 |
| 00:31.24 | KarlThePagan | slightly different tho |
| 00:31.25 | RogueShadow | nice. |
| 00:31.31 | Mudkips | You could always repaint your mouse. That's what I did |
| 00:31.43 | RogueShadow | Well that's not the big problem |
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| 00:31.56 | RogueShadow | I can't get it to charge and stay charged. |
| 00:32.02 | Wobwork | =( |
| 00:32.04 | RogueShadow | I should try to find some diff chargable batteries |
| 00:32.13 | Wobwork | My wireless mouse (MS 5000) suddenly fails to track |
| 00:32.14 | RogueShadow | But for some reason the alkaline one's I put in it didn't even work more than 2 days. |
| 00:32.21 | RogueShadow | which bites |
| 00:32.22 | Wobwork | the buttons work, but the cursor doesn't move |
| 00:32.29 | KarlThePagan | if you have that problem with 1.5v normal batteries then no 1.2v recharable is going to work for you |
| 00:32.32 | Wobwork | really irritating |
| 00:32.49 | RogueShadow | Well I have always used the one's that come with it. |
| 00:32.52 | KarlThePagan | yea |
| 00:33.16 | RogueShadow | Lately, when I put in on the charger instead of getting the slow green blink, I get a fast red blink, which only stops if I remove a battery for a second and put it back. |
| 00:33.17 | RogueShadow | Weird. |
| 00:33.22 | RogueShadow | I can't find documentation of that. |
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| 00:34.36 | ckknight | hey all, back |
| 00:34.56 | RogueShadow | Also, I can't seem to bind the other mousebuttons. |
| 00:34.59 | RogueShadow | wb ckknight |
| 00:35.02 | Funkeh` | hey ck |
| 00:38.29 | Chompers | hey ckknight |
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| 00:41.13 | Shirik | hi ckknight |
| 00:42.15 | Vulpes | would anyone be able to help me with a total novice LUA programming type question? |
| 00:42.51 | ckknight | just ask |
| 00:42.54 | CIA-22 | 03sekuyo 07sekuyo * r44275 10Cartographer_Sidelist/Cartographer_Sidelist.lua: |
| 00:42.54 | CIA-22 | Cartographer_Sidelist |
| 00:42.54 | CIA-22 | - update the open sidelist when notes are added or removed |
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| 00:43.33 | Vulpes | K, i'm using an old Global Cooldown bar mod called IceAge |
| 00:43.57 | Vulpes | and all I want it to be able to load sharedmedialib's custom textures |
| 00:43.59 | Vulpes | into it |
| 00:44.23 | ckknight | k |
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| 00:45.08 | Chompers | does Quartz not do what you need Vulpes? |
| 00:45.27 | Vulpes | I play a warrior and don't really need most of quartz's features |
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| 00:46.00 | Shirik | quartz is god |
| 00:46.28 | Arrowmaster | only feature i could think of you wouldnt need is the latency module, but thats a module and completely disablable |
| 00:46.51 | kergoth | Vulpes, so remove or disable the modules you dont want/need |
| 00:46.59 | Chompers | it works on slam, deep wounds etc |
| 00:47.57 | RaydenUni | i didn't see anything in quartz that i need |
| 00:48.03 | Vulpes | hehe, its a great addon, but I just kinda wanted to mess around with some LUA programming, figured this would be a great way to start |
| 00:48.10 | Chompers | oh right |
| 00:48.11 | Chompers | :P |
| 00:48.33 | Vulpes | The IceAge uses something called CandyBar 2.0 to draw textures |
| 00:48.40 | RaydenUni | maybe i should look into it again |
| 00:48.43 | RaydenUni | right now i'm using classtimer |
| 00:48.56 | Mecdemort | Is there a way, with an aceoptions table text field, to pass the name of the text field and the entered text to the set function? |
| 00:49.32 | Vulpes | and has a local function? or array called barTextureMap that makes a list of some different textures |
| 00:49.52 | RaydenUni | i should try quartz again |
| 00:49.57 | RaydenUni | i didn't give it enough of a try |
| 00:50.03 | RaydenUni | i don't care for the texture though |
| 00:50.06 | RaydenUni | can you change that? |
| 00:50.14 | Vulpes | Looks like this: |
| 00:50.15 | Vulpes | local barTextureMap = { |
| 00:50.17 | Vulpes | ["BantoBar"]= texturePath.."BantoBar.tga", |
| 00:50.18 | Vulpes | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:50.20 | Vulpes | } |
| 00:51.23 | Funkeh` | sleep time, later |
| 00:53.01 | Vulpes | is there anywhere i can look (a mod or a doc, api) to see how to pull custom bar textures into an array? |
| 00:53.19 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r44276 10Parrot/ScrollAreas.lua: Parrot_ScrollAreas - show the position in config mode, to allow for better placement. Split the texts so they can be more readable. |
| 00:53.34 | Chompers | ty ckk :) |
| 00:54.00 | ckknight | Vulpes: AceLibrary("SharedMedia-1.0"):List("statusbar") |
| 00:54.05 | ckknight | that gets the names |
| 00:54.25 | ckknight | for the textures themselves, do AceLibrary("SharedMedia-1.0"):Fetch("statusbar", "name") |
| 00:54.34 | Mudkips | oh jeez! huge pitbull raid frames |
| 00:54.46 | Vulpes | thanks ckknight |
| 00:55.08 | ZealotOnAStick | RaydenUni: Quartz will use any bar texture in SharedMedia |
| 00:55.13 | Bibi | anyone know a way to auto-validate all the items in atlasloot ? |
| 00:55.55 | CIA-22 | 03zuno * r44277 10UnitActionBars/ActionButton.lua: |
| 00:55.55 | CIA-22 | UnitActionBars: |
| 00:55.55 | CIA-22 | - Added catching ACTIONBAR_UPDATE_USABLE to fix usable items not showing up usable at the right times. |
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| 01:06.18 | CIA-22 | 03sayclub * r44278 10WitchHunt/locales/koKR.lua: WitchHunt: Updated koKR |
| 01:06.48 | Roartindon | ZealotOnAStick: Looking for some advice :) |
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| 01:06.57 | Roartindon | ZealotOnAStick: Solarian - raid wide AR, or not? |
| 01:09.35 | Gngsk | it's kind of a dps race, raidwide AR would make it tougher imo |
| 01:10.28 | PHL-Chuck | hey anyone know of an addon that will give a visual queue when combat is turned on? sometimes in bear form I'm not attacking ... lol |
| 01:10.40 | PHL-Chuck | que rather |
| 01:11.07 | Thrae | PHL-Chuck: They're fixing that bug in the next patch |
| 01:11.10 | Vulpes | scrolling combat text can tell you |
| 01:11.27 | PHL-Chuck | it'll tell me if I'm in combat not not if attack is on |
| 01:11.58 | Roartindon | Gngsk: So just stack massive AR on a couple of tanks? |
| 01:12.01 | PHL-Chuck | thrae: theres a bug? |
| 01:12.04 | Gngsk | Roartindon, yeah |
| 01:12.05 | Thrae | PHL-Chuck: However, to answer your question -- Blizzard's "Floating Combat Text" is very useful for that. It'll scroll up [+COMBAT] and [-COMBAT] |
| 01:12.06 | Roartindon | Gngsk: And all out dps gear for everyone else? |
| 01:12.18 | Gngsk | that'd be my suggestion |
| 01:12.25 | Roartindon | Gngsk: How much AR do your tanks have? |
| 01:12.32 | Roartindon | Gngsk: (Just asking in preparation - we haven't even tried him yet) |
| 01:12.37 | Vulpes | 489 |
| 01:12.45 | PHL-Chuck | Thrae: I know about that, but say in a multi mob pull sometimes I'll not turn attack on (I'm already in combat) |
| 01:12.46 | Gngsk | I'm not sure tbh |
| 01:12.52 | Roartindon | 489 minimum? or target goal? |
| 01:12.54 | Gngsk | but they look like little girls in their AR gear, so I'd guess it's a lot |
| 01:13.11 | Thrae | PHL-Chuck: More like a feature change. Furor and the same type for Warriors puts you into combat whenever its used. Furor is automatically activated everytime you shift into Bear Form, and it currently puts you into combat. |
| 01:13.17 | Vulpes | Gngsk: this is plissken :) |
| 01:13.28 | Gngsk | :o |
| 01:13.33 | Thrae | PHL-Chuck: Next patch will make Furor give you rage that doesn't decay automatically, but not put you into combat |
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| 01:13.43 | Vulpes | Roartindon: I'm one of AR tanks, i have 489 Unbuffed AR |
| 01:13.44 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r44279 10Parrot/ (Display.lua ScrollAreas.lua TriggerConditions.lua): Parrot_ScrollAreas - add option to change the speed of texts. |
| 01:13.47 | PHL-Chuck | I'm talking to goddamn bot?? wtf |
| 01:13.48 | Gngsk | Don't tell the other tanks I said they look like little girls! |
| 01:13.51 | Mecdemort | anyone else getting errors from bigwigs? |
| 01:13.52 | PHL-Chuck | DIE THRAE |
| 01:14.10 | Thrae | ...That's not very nice. I'm not a bot. |
| 01:14.10 | Vulpes | and at the end of 3rd rotation we are very hard to keep up |
| 01:14.15 | Roartindon | Vulpes: thanks :) |
| 01:14.16 | Thrae | ThraeBot: <-- he's the bot |
| 01:14.19 | PHL-Chuck | lol sorry man |
| 01:15.01 | PHL-Chuck | is the C version of WAU being phased out? |
| 01:15.13 | Thrae | PHL-Chuck: There's also a bug where Mangle can Mangle a mob that's like 50 yards away by accident, that's also being fixed |
| 01:15.24 | PHL-Chuck | I wondered about that one |
| 01:15.41 | PHL-Chuck | I mash my mangle key cause its a macro with /startattack on it |
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| 01:15.47 | PHL-Chuck | and was wondering why it was pulling mobs lol |
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| 01:17.46 | PHL-Chuck | Is there a text cooldown notifier that works with parrot? |
| 01:20.01 | ckknight | you mean for when spells become available or so? |
| 01:20.08 | PHL-Chuck | yessir |
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| 01:20.22 | PHL-Chuck | like MSBTcooldown |
| 01:20.30 | PHL-Chuck | that for some reason only supposts MSBT |
| 01:21.16 | Thrae | PHL-Chuck: Parrot is still in Beta status, while MSBT has been released for a long time. |
| 01:21.31 | PHL-Chuck | yes but it don't support SCT either |
| 01:21.37 | PHL-Chuck | just using it as example |
| 01:21.46 | Thrae | SCT has been supported by itself in a long time :D |
| 01:21.56 | PHL-Chuck | ?? |
| 01:22.01 | PHL-Chuck | you sure you know what I'm asking |
| 01:22.04 | Thrae | The author went to try and use Ace2, then I think he's gone back to no Ace2 version now? |
| 01:22.15 | Thrae | I'm talking about SCT's release cycle. |
| 01:22.55 | PHL-Chuck | your confusing lol |
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| 01:23.47 | Kyahx | blizzard combat text ftw? |
| 01:23.47 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r44280 10Parrot/TriggerConditions.lua: Parrot_TriggerConditions - add triggers Outgoing Cast and Incoming Cast. Should be useful if you get Mana Burned or what have you. |
| 01:23.48 | Kyahx | haha |
| 01:23.54 | Thrae | PHL-Chuck: What I'm saying is that don't be surprised when addons located in the Wowace repository aren't finished. Wowace, at this moment, doesn't allow any clear distrinction between what is stable/released and what isn't. |
| 01:24.10 | PHL-Chuck | I know parrot is beta bro |
| 01:24.12 | ckknight | syeren: test that |
| 01:24.18 | Thrae | Kyahx: He wants Cooldown notification for other then MSBT |
| 01:24.23 | JoshBorke | Thrae: not true. anything in tags is considered stable |
| 01:24.33 | Kyahx | so write it :P |
| 01:24.41 | RaydenUni | probably most useful part of MSBT for me is telling me when i lose my bandaged status |
| 01:24.43 | Wobwork | hm, do I want to use the wowace rss or the googlegroups rss? |
| 01:24.45 | Thrae | PHL-Chuck: Yeah, so if the addon doesn't have it, best to ask the addon author |
| 01:24.59 | ckknight | PHL-Chuck: actually it probably would be freaky easy to write, seeing as Parrot was made to be extensible |
| 01:25.08 | JoshBorke | wowace will be most up to date |
| 01:25.10 | Thrae | JoshBorke: Well, when I meant "wowace repository", I meant files.wowace.com :D |
| 01:25.10 | Kyahx | Detecting cooldowns isn't that hard, nor is sending text to the combat text |
| 01:25.25 | PHL-Chuck | it would be nice if one of the exisiting bar cooldown addons just had text support |
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| 01:25.40 | ckknight | Parrot:ShowMessage("text") |
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| 01:26.06 | PHL-Chuck | well your the pro ck! |
| 01:26.24 | PHL-Chuck | I just would love to see "Mangle (Bear) Ready!" |
| 01:26.26 | PHL-Chuck | haha |
| 01:26.31 | Thrae | I have code like that in VitalWatch for showing stuff on FCT/SCT/MSBT/BigWigs/etc., and it's ridiculously easy...just need to add something to OmniCC or ask Tuller to add it |
| 01:26.40 | Kyahx | or CombatText_AddMessage(msg, COMBAT_TEXT_SCROLL_FUNCTION, r, g, b) :P |
| 01:27.21 | JoshBorke | don't ask tuller, he's the devil |
| 01:27.30 | Kyahx | OmniCC is dead simple |
| 01:27.42 | ckknight | Kyahx: but then that doesn't show up in Parrot |
| 01:27.49 | Kyahx | :) |
| 01:27.57 | Kyahx | I've used the blizz text forever |
| 01:28.06 | Kyahx | just changed the font size and im ok with it |
| 01:28.13 | ckknight | it doesn't show up in Blizz's if you disable it |
| 01:28.14 | Thrae | PHL-Chuck: Problem with coding it is...what do you want to watch for? Watching for stuff that has like 2 second cooldowns will really clog up your scrolling text |
| 01:28.24 | ckknight | or wait, does it? |
| 01:28.34 | PHL-Chuck | well you could toggle what you wanna watch? |
| 01:28.37 | Kyahx | you mean the frame? |
| 01:28.40 | PHL-Chuck | have a threshold |
| 01:28.46 | PHL-Chuck | Im not a programmer sadly |
| 01:28.50 | Thrae | PHL-Chuck: Yeah, now THAT will be a pain...need to add options, regex, etc. for that |
| 01:28.51 | ckknight | so it does |
| 01:29.15 | Diao | hmm |
| 01:29.18 | Diao | how come with dogtag |
| 01:29.25 | Diao | if a player in party is out of range |
| 01:29.28 | Thrae | Just adding the actual function to something like OmniCC (if code sharing is even needed) would be simple, the options might not be |
| 01:29.56 | Diao | ~IsPlayerOrPet evaluates to true? |
| 01:29.58 | ckknight | hrm, I could just hook CombatText_AddMessage... |
| 01:29.58 | Diao | and PvPName returns error |
| 01:29.58 | Diao | er |
| 01:29.58 | Diao | PvPRank |
| 01:29.58 | Diao | rather |
| 01:30.06 | Kyahx | ckknight: that's what I did for my own FCT |
| 01:30.25 | ckknight | you have your own FCT? |
| 01:30.35 | Kyahx | for my own personal use, yes |
| 01:30.38 | Kyahx | never released it |
| 01:30.46 | Thrae | Diao: I'm guessing IsPlayerOrPet comes from IsPlayerControlled(unit), but ckknight would know better. |
| 01:31.57 | Thrae | UnitPlayerControlled("unit"), sorry |
| 01:31.59 | ckknight | UnitPlayerControlled |
| 01:32.02 | ckknight | yep, it is |
| 01:32.08 | ckknight | is something better than that? |
| 01:32.26 | Thrae | ckknight: afaik, no -- the server does weird things when players are out of range, especially pets |
| 01:32.36 | Thrae | It'll give you bad values too often =/ |
| 01:32.53 | Diao | yeah it has weird behavior |
| 01:32.54 | Diao | :( |
| 01:33.05 | Diao | makes my party members have double names on cowtip when they're out of range |
| 01:33.14 | Mecdemort | if there's a bigwigs dev in here i've posted some errors from the latest commit at http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=5400.msg122626#new |
| 01:34.54 | Diao | ah |
| 01:34.55 | Diao | i fixed it |
| 01:34.59 | Diao | instead of using ~IsPlayerOrPet |
| 01:35.06 | Diao | I just do ~IsPlayer?~IsPet |
| 01:35.07 | Diao | lol |
| 01:36.04 | Thrae | Hmmm, must just be your DogTag patterns |
| 01:36.55 | Arrowmaster | lol i just tried to paste a link to a torrent ingame and both me and my friend got a prat error and didnt see the link |
| 01:37.04 | Diao | well |
| 01:37.16 | Diao | it also returns an error |
| 01:37.18 | Diao | if a party member is out of range |
| 01:37.26 | Diao | and i try to get PvPRank |
| 01:37.34 | Diao | something about mouseover error for pvpname |
| 01:38.03 | CIA-22 | 03mitchell * r44281 10RangeCheck-1.0/RangeCheck-1.0/RangeCheck-1.0.lua: RangeCheck-1.0: possible fix for hunter 10yd range anomaly (reported by kergoth) |
| 01:38.22 | sylvanaar | Arrowmaster fix lua to provide a decent regex implementation |
| 01:38.33 | Arrowmaster | yeah really |
| 01:38.36 | Arrowmaster | i know |
| 01:39.04 | sylvanaar | that pattern crap makes is so cheap |
| 01:39.08 | Arrowmaster | i pasted http://www.datorrents.com/download.asp?id=23707&name=%5BNB%5DNaruto_Shippuuden_20%5BXvid%5D%5B75AC010E%5D.avi.torrent and i think everybody in the channel using spamsentry and prat got errors |
| 01:39.32 | sylvanaar | lrn2tinyurl |
| 01:39.35 | Arrowmaster | lol |
| 01:39.53 | Thrae | !t http://www.datorrents.com/download.asp?id=23707&name=%5BNB%5DNaruto_Shippuuden_20%5BXvid%5D%5B75AC010E%5D.avi.torrent |
| 01:39.56 | ThraeBot | Thrae: http://tinyurl.com/26nwrw |
| 01:40.20 | Arrowmaster | i just pasted http://www.tokyotosho.com/ to them instead |
| 01:40.22 | mitch1-zZ | hm. launcher updated |
| 01:40.27 | mitch1-zZ | preparation for 2.2? |
| 01:41.11 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r44282 10Parrot/Display.lua: Parrot_Display - hook CombatText_AddMessage to redirect to Parrot's notification frame. |
| 01:41.17 | ckknight | Kyahx: thanks for the tip |
| 01:41.34 | ckknight | granted, if someone were to turn on both FCT and Parrot, it'd look funky |
| 01:42.10 | Arrowmaster | make it an option? |
| 01:42.27 | ckknight | FCT is disabled automatically with Parrot |
| 01:42.34 | ckknight | so I consider it a nonissue |
| 01:42.41 | ckknight | especially cause they serve the same function |
| 01:42.46 | Kyahx | but other mods might pump messages to the default display |
| 01:42.50 | Kyahx | hence the reason for the hook |
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| 01:43.44 | Arrowmaster | you dont auto disable "Show Target Damage" and "Show Healing" like SCT does do you? |
| 01:44.19 | ckknight | that's an option. |
| 01:44.29 | Wobwork | hm, can we get the forums as a rss feed |
| 01:44.30 | Wobwork | ? |
| 01:44.31 | ckknight | off by default |
| 01:44.58 | Arrowmaster | good because auto disabling "Show Target Damage" is fucking stupid and annoying since it also disables stuff from showing in the combat log |
| 01:46.11 | ckknight | oh, there's ways around that, Arrowmaster |
| 01:46.15 | ckknight | which I implement |
| 01:46.29 | ckknight | SetCVar("CombatLogPeriodicSpells", 1) |
| 01:46.33 | ckknight | tada, crisis averted |
| 01:46.37 | ckknight | makes it show in the combat log |
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| 01:48.04 | Diao | hmm |
| 01:48.15 | Diao | how do i check UnitPvPName ingame using a macro |
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| 01:48.32 | Arrowmaster | 09:48:14 You are now saved to this instance09:48:14 Transfer Aborted: instance is full |
| 01:48.39 | Arrowmaster | gg |
| 01:48.55 | ckknight | Diao: /print UnitPVPName(unit) |
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| 01:50.30 | Diao | hm |
| 01:50.37 | Diao | when i do that it just prints exactly what i told it to print.. literally :( |
| 01:50.39 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r44283 10Parrot/Parrot.lua: Parrot - make it so the FCT stays off, make sure pet melee damage stays on. |
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| 01:50.53 | ckknight | Diao: isn't that good? |
| 01:50.58 | Diao | well |
| 01:51.04 | Diao | it just prints "UnitPvPName("player") |
| 01:51.05 | Wobwork | not if it returns "UnitPVPName(unit)" |
| 01:51.06 | Diao | " |
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| 01:51.16 | ckknight | show me your macro |
| 01:51.30 | Wobwork | My Macromen, Let Me Shows You Them. |
| 01:51.40 | Diao | /print UnitPvPName("player") |
| 01:51.46 | *** mode/#wowace [+v Shirik] by ChanServ |
| 01:51.57 | ckknight | okay, I don't believe you. |
| 01:52.06 | Wobwork | hehe |
| 01:52.09 | Diao | i'll screenshot it |
| 01:52.15 | Wobwork | try /dump |
| 01:52.26 | ckknight | it's PVP, not PvP |
| 01:52.28 | ckknight | that's your issue |
| 01:52.32 | ckknight | it's printing an error. |
| 01:52.38 | Diao | oh |
| 01:52.52 | Diao | er |
| 01:52.55 | Diao | still doing the same thing >.> |
| 01:53.04 | Diao | oh dump worked |
| 01:53.09 | Diao | probably cause i'm using prat? |
| 01:53.09 | ckknight | okay, I still don't believe you put /print |
| 01:53.20 | ckknight | I believe you didn't save or something |
| 01:56.59 | sylvanaar | anyone interested in gathering together some utility/debug code into one common package? |
| 02:00.08 | CIA-22 | 03sylvanaar 07sylvanaar * r44284 10Prat/Refactor/ (Chat-1.0.lua Debug-1.0.lua): Prat: Uncommitted stuff |
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| 02:00.46 | *** mode/#wowace [+v Shirik] by ChanServ |
| 02:01.14 | Thrae | People, stop griefing Shirk already! Let him rez and remain so for at least an hour! |
| 02:01.26 | Shirik | :( |
| 02:03.00 | Thrae | Shirik: If you' |
| 02:03.14 | Shirik | ' |
| 02:03.18 | Shirik | there, it's fixed now? |
| 02:03.28 | Thrae | Shirik: If you're doing anything like torrentings, or anything else that can saturate your upstream, that might be the cause -- IRC networks generally need constant pings |
| 02:03.30 | Kaydeethree | new ptr's up. diffs of the interface are at http://spyglass-server.com/wowints/ |
| 02:03.36 | Shirik | or |
| 02:03.44 | Shirik | it might just be that my internet connection sucks |
| 02:03.59 | Shirik | not only is it on a phone line, it's on an extremely old one, which I can literally hear the distortion in |
| 02:04.01 | Thrae | Shirik: Do a good 30 pings to Google |
| 02:04.16 | Shirik | I've offered to rewire the house but he doesn't want it done |
| 02:04.22 | Thrae | Check the packet loss. On Windows, that'll be ping -t 30 www.google.com |
| 02:04.55 | Shirik | Thrae: The line hangs up. I find that to be proof enough |
| 02:05.09 | Thrae | Shirik: You get disconnected whenever you try to do a ping? |
| 02:05.14 | Shirik | no.. |
| 02:05.22 | Shirik | I get disconnected when the internet gods say it so |
| 02:05.34 | Thrae | Heh. Is this Dial-up or DSL? |
| 02:05.41 | Shirik | do a /whois on me |
| 02:05.53 | Shirik | and seriously I thought I had told everyone I'm on dialup already >< |
| 02:05.59 | Shirik | that's why I haven't been doing anything worthwhil |
| 02:06.02 | Thrae | Ouch, dial-up |
| 02:06.16 | Thrae | What type of modem are you using? |
| 02:06.18 | Shirik | I went to an internship but I don't have an internet connection up here |
| 02:06.23 | Shirik | heh, my laptop's internal one |
| 02:06.34 | Thrae | No offense, but it probably sucks. |
| 02:06.37 | Shirik | But tomorrow I'll have high speed! I'm taking care of my aunt's cats and I'll just stay at her house for a few days :P |
| 02:06.45 | Thrae | That's not the cause, but that's not helping either. |
| 02:06.45 | Shirik | Thrae: No offense, but I thought I'd never use it >< |
| 02:07.04 | Shirik | It took me some time to actually find it too |
| 02:07.04 | Thrae | Shirik: Change the maximum allowable bandwidth down to 28.8kbps if you haven't already |
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| 02:07.18 | Shirik | I'm only connecting at 14.4 actually |
| 02:07.27 | Shirik | don't actually know why |
| 02:07.34 | Shirik | but haven't cared enough to find out |
| 02:07.42 | Wobwork | You should go hardcore and connect at 2400 |
| 02:07.46 | Thrae | Shirik: Yeah, but Windows will try to change that dynamically. It just shows what you connect at initially, for 98 and XP. |
| 02:07.49 | Kaydeethree | gah. they didn't fix the texture breakage... thunderfury is pink |
| 02:07.53 | Shirik | ah |
| 02:08.04 | Wobwork | Thunderfury is FABULOUS =) |
| 02:08.12 | Thrae | Shirik: But it won't go above your set maximum. |
| 02:09.50 | Shirik | lol |
| 02:09.57 | Shirik | so I just found out why it only connects at 14.4 >.> |
| 02:09.59 | kenlyric | are there color options in cowtip, for the various texts included? |
| 02:11.49 | Mikk | Why oh why doesn't RatingBuster display critrate for druids? |
| 02:12.16 | Thrae | Mikk: Druids heal omg |
| 02:12.22 | kenlyric | did you tell it to? |
| 02:13.10 | Shirik | anyway, I'm out guys |
| 02:13.11 | Shirik | take care |
| 02:13.31 | Mikk | omg it has an options window even :> |
| 02:15.08 | Mikk | whoot! |
| 02:16.42 | Mikk | fux sake.. bloody stealther's helmet of second sight |
| 02:16.46 | Mikk | i'm not getting rid of it |
| 02:16.56 | Kaydeethree | damn it... the alsa driver's still getting stuck in an infiniloop. wonder if oss is working? |
| 02:16.59 | Mikk | still pwns cowl of defiance |
| 02:17.10 | Thrae | !i bloody stealther's helmet of second sight |
| 02:17.27 | Mikk | lal |
| 02:17.30 | Thrae | Armory is up and down today |
| 02:17.42 | Mikk | !i stealther's helmet of second sight |
| 02:17.47 | Mikk | no "bloody" in it :> |
| 02:17.50 | Thrae | Ahhh |
| 02:18.02 | Thrae | I don't think that'll make it find it, though :D |
| 02:18.13 | ThraeBot | Thrae: that is not the item you're looking for! |
| 02:18.25 | Thrae | Yeah, HTTP timeout errors |
| 02:18.31 | Mikk | joy |
| 02:18.43 | Mikk | liek.. talk to wowhead instead :S |
| 02:18.47 | Mikk | nice xml api |
| 02:19.03 | Thrae | Erm, wowhead renders its pages in HTML, not XML |
| 02:19.13 | Thrae | Unless there's a way to get an item in XML instad of HTML? |
| 02:19.16 | ThraeBot | Mikk: Name: Stealther's Helmet of Second Sight; Rarity: Blue; BoP; Head; +18 Stamina; +24 Agility; +226 Armour; 1 Blue; 1 Yellow; 1 Red; +8 Attack Power socket bonus; 60 Durability; +13 HitRating; Equip: Increases attack power by 60.; Equip: Allows the bearer to see into the ghost world while in Shadowmoon Valley.. [[ http://www.wowhead.com/?item=31109 ]] |
| 02:19.36 | Mikk | http://www.wowhead.com/?item=31109&xml <- lookie! |
| 02:19.49 | Thrae | Ahhh, OK, I'll take a look at that. |
| 02:19.54 | Thrae | Thanks. |
| 02:20.14 | Thrae | Even though it looks up the Armory, I have it link to wowhead since it has a much shorter URL ;) |
| 02:20.20 | Mikk | !i cowl of defiance |
| 02:21.09 | Diao | whoa |
| 02:21.10 | Diao | left a bg |
| 02:21.15 | Diao | and i got stuck in permanent combat |
| 02:21.23 | ThraeBot | Mikk: Name: Cowl of Defiance; Rarity: Purple; BoP; Head; +33 Stamina; +34 Agility; +296 Armour; Requires L70; 70 Durability; +24 HitRating; Equip: Increases attack power by 100.; Drops off: Netherspite (Karazhan); Drop Rate: Medium. [[ http://www.wowhead.com/?item=28732 ]] |
| 02:21.32 | Mikk | yeah i had that happen to me today too when running outta TK |
| 02:22.15 | Mikk | i mean.. look at those two... you'd think cowl of defiance has to be better, right? |
| 02:22.29 | Mikk | wrong. even with mediocre gems in stealther's, it's better |
| 02:22.48 | Mikk | well, assuming 1.5% crit > 30 AP in cat anyway |
| 02:24.17 | Nimble | cowl of defiance is better for rogues |
| 02:24.22 | Thrae | Mikk: For a Rogue or Feral Druid DPS, yeah, the 2nd is probably better...but a Feral Druid might want to take the 1st for tanking w/ some good gems |
| 02:24.51 | Mikk | no, a druid wants the pimp hat for tanking :P |
| 02:25.31 | Garoun | no druid would use either second sight or defiance for tanking |
| 02:25.35 | Thrae | Mikk: Ah nevermind yeah, I read the stats wrong |
| 02:25.37 | Garoun | not when pimp hat is available |
| 02:25.39 | Garoun | :P |
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| 02:26.34 | Mikk | arguably the epix has more armor |
| 02:26.40 | Mikk | but comes at a hefty stat loss |
| 02:27.26 | Garoun | I tank with pimphat, Arena 2 or T5 are the only ones I'd currently replace pimp for, given that we're only 10man right now |
| 02:27.40 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r44285 10Parrot/CombatEvents.lua: Parrot_CombatEvents - add throttling for skill damage, so that multi-hits can act as a single event, e.g. mage AoE or pally consecration. |
| 02:27.46 | ckknight | :-) |
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| 02:30.17 | stavmar | what is the address to get the mac version of WAU? |
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| 02:31.00 | BankZ | Can you disable the timer bars in bigwigs? |
| 02:31.24 | stavmar | BankZ: yeah you can in teh dewdrop menu under extras-->bars |
| 02:32.13 | BankZ | k, looking |
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| 02:33.02 | BankZ | tranq? |
| 02:33.48 | BankZ | I dont see the option to disable the bars |
| 02:33.52 | BankZ | was it removed? |
| 02:35.02 | BankZ | I see to turn off the emphisize |
| 02:35.10 | BankZ | but not the main bars |
| 02:35.38 | BankZ | bug or by design? |
| 02:36.22 | aen` | how much gold can be gained roughly from all of the SMV quests? |
| 02:37.18 | Garoun | hopefully doing a full wipe and reinstall fo my ace mods will fix this odd rare freeze I've been having |
| 02:38.57 | Kaydeethree | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:39.08 | Kaydeethree | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:39.21 | Kaydeethree | bah, first line was supposed to be quoted |
| 02:39.50 | ckknight | link |
| 02:40.01 | Kaydeethree | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=388011140&sid=1 |
| 02:40.04 | Kaydeethree | post #8 |
| 02:41.17 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r44286 10Parrot/CombatEvents.lua: Parrot_CombatEvents - add merging of power gain/power loss events. This should stop the incredible VT/VE spam. Default throttle time set to 3 seconds. |
| 02:42.35 | ckknight | that needs testing. |
| 02:42.46 | ckknight | by someone with a spriest in the party |
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| 02:43.45 | ckknight | alright, now I'm gonna add a system to block low values, so if you don't want say, +13 mana to show up, you can make it show only >50 or so |
| 02:46.35 | Arrowmaster | how about a way to block certain events, like vampric embrace and touch only but still show all lifetap and darkpact gains nomatter now small |
| 02:47.09 | Thrae | Arrowmaster: Heh, then you're getting into some serious regex there |
| 02:47.15 | Thrae | Well, "pattern matching" |
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| 02:50.02 | Arrowmaster | doesnt seem that hard to me with parser-3.0 which im assuming parrot is using |
| 02:50.46 | ckknight | yea, because I automated the process |
| 02:51.17 | ckknight | Arrowmaster: actually, that's something I'm likely not going to do, as it would increase the complexity immensely |
| 02:52.01 | Arrowmaster | =( |
| 02:52.18 | Arrowmaster | how about a way to do it with custom event |
| 02:53.29 | Thrae | But -my- Parrot accepts Lua patterns! Me: Polly, want some crack? Parrot: *SQUAWK* Found match "Polly,? want some crack[ers]*?", print( "YES!" ) *SQUAWK* |
| 02:53.33 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r44287 10Parrot/CombatEvents.lua: Parrot_CombatEvents - for power gain/loss, merge based on the spell it comes from. |
| 02:53.36 | ckknight | Arrowmaster: alright, here we go |
| 02:53.51 | ckknight | what you do is change the message to be +[Amount] [Type] ([Skill]) |
| 02:53.51 | Thrae | Whoops, my parrot has an error in that pattern...crap, another one exploded |
| 02:53.55 | ckknight | and you go to suppressions |
| 02:54.05 | ckknight | and add Mana (Vampiric Touch) |
| 02:54.12 | ckknight | and Mana (Vampiric Embrace) |
| 02:54.39 | Arrowmaster | cool |
| 02:54.51 | ckknight | you should be set with that |
| 02:55.31 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r44288 10Parrot/CombatEvents.lua: Parrot_CombatEvents - extra commas are a plot by the liberal media. |
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| 03:05.25 | Bam__ | hmm.. I think the author of ezIcons missed the point of svn:externals :P |
| 03:14.39 | Neebler | liberal media is an oxymoron |
| 03:15.24 | RogueShadow | How so |
| 03:16.30 | RogueShadow | Oh, can change the speed of text!! I was thinking that would be good. |
| 03:20.46 | ckknight | yea, I added that |
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| 03:25.31 | Mikk | Arrowmaster: If you're gonna get into Lua, you might as well just code a hook in Omnibus / TinyPad |
| 03:25.40 | Mikk | (That's what I've done with standard blizz combattext :P) |
| 03:27.14 | ulic | [2007/07/19 20:24:34-1208-x1]: Parrot-r44288\Parrot.lua:160: AceHook-2.1: Attempt to hook a non-existant function "CombatText_OnEvent" |
| 03:27.28 | ulic | [2007/07/19 20:24:34-1208-x1]: Parrot-r44288\Display.lua:45: AceHook-2.1: Attempt to hook a non-existant function "CombatText_AddMessage" |
| 03:28.00 | ckknight | bah |
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| 03:29.39 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r44289 10Parrot/ (Display.lua Parrot.lua): Parrot - don't assume that Blizzard_CombatText will load. |
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| 03:32.40 | RogueShadow | clad just added an ingame lua interpreter to wowi |
| 03:34.07 | clad|book | :P |
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| 03:40.45 | clad|book | in ora2.. i set two playertargets |
| 03:40.50 | clad|book | but dont have any frames.. any ideas? |
| 03:44.45 | Mikk | they don't like appearing out of raids |
| 03:44.49 | clad|book | boo |
| 03:44.53 | clad|book | i was hoping to use them for arena |
| 03:44.55 | Mikk | i know |
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| 03:45.08 | Mikk | i'm about to rape MT/PT frames |
| 03:45.10 | Mikk | going to look at that also |
| 03:45.25 | clad|book | <3 |
| 03:53.30 | ZealotOnAStick | I am getting so tired of the Kael'thas fight. |
| 03:57.41 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r44290 10Parrot/CombatEvents.lua: Parrot_CombatEvents - add a filtering system for incoming heals and power gains. This can theoretically be used for any event, though. |
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| 04:07.37 | Sole | WOOOOOHOOOOOOOOOOOO |
| 04:07.40 | Sole | IM IN THE WAR BETA |
| 04:07.43 | Sole | FUCK YEAH |
| 04:08.00 | Chompers | war beta? |
| 04:08.08 | Sole | warhammer online |
| 04:08.13 | Chompers | ooh |
| 04:08.21 | Sole | thats Im allowed to tell you |
| 04:08.25 | Sole | that Im in the beta |
| 04:08.29 | Sole | lol first thing they mention in the email |
| 04:09.15 | Mikk | "You can tell your friends that you're in the beta. But nothing else. HF tormenting them."? =P |
| 04:10.09 | Sole | si |
| 04:10.28 | Sole | sweet so thats 2 games Im testing now |
| 04:10.30 | art3mis | woooo |
| 04:10.34 | Sole | Fury - alpha and Warhammer - beta ^_^ |
| 04:13.20 | art3mis | wait youll never know where the treasure is buried.. Treasure? yeah the treasure of ima weiner. i'm a weiner? hahaha classic |
| 04:22.20 | Wobwork | http://xkcd.com/c292.html |
| 04:22.24 | Wobwork | coding practice =P |
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| 04:29.02 | ckknight | Sole: aw man, how'd you get in? |
| 04:29.24 | Sole | ckknight: I applied :) |
| 04:29.33 | ckknight | so did I :-( |
| 04:29.33 | Sole | and I said I was a unique snowflake |
| 04:29.48 | Sole | I have an extensive record of testing/playing MMOs :P |
| 04:30.00 | Sole | maybe thats why |
| 04:30.10 | Sole | or maybe they just chose me at random because I have a system that can run their game |
| 04:30.50 | art3mis | OR |
| 04:30.56 | art3mis | you're a liarhead! |
| 04:30.59 | art3mis | heh |
| 04:31.39 | Sole | :P |
| 04:31.49 | Sole | painful download speed :( |
| 04:31.56 | art3mis | i wish they'd give me my conan key already |
| 04:32.06 | art3mis | THAT i actually wanna play |
| 04:32.27 | art3mis | who im not too impressed by from what ive seen |
| 04:32.36 | Diao | hmm |
| 04:32.43 | art3mis | its just wow with a shitty game object interaction and crap directional control |
| 04:32.50 | Sole | who = warhammer? |
| 04:32.54 | Diao | i think they should rename imp shield block to reflective shield |
| 04:33.04 | Diao | and make the talent affect spell reflect too :D |
| 04:33.57 | art3mis | yeah |
| 04:34.29 | art3mis | when i played beta at the comiccon there was not hover over notification fo useable game objects |
| 04:34.50 | art3mis | and nsew was screen fixed NOT which way you were facing fixed |
| 04:35.02 | art3mis | sorry it was nswe not lrud |
| 04:35.10 | art3mis | ud==fb |
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| 04:36.48 | Sole | maybe they changed it :P |
| 04:36.53 | Sole | it is a beta after all |
| 04:38.11 | Garoun | Guess Prat doesnt' like me logging onto difference factions on the same server :/ |
| 04:40.37 | Garoun | removed the Moonrunner - Horde table from the saved variables so it only had Moonrunner - Alliance, and works fine now |
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| 04:41.53 | Rancit | hi |
| 04:42.17 | Rancit | anyone know if there r extra skins for pitbull? :D |
| 04:42.33 | Kemayo | art3mis: I played it at comiccon last year, too, and it was very WoW-esque, I agree. |
| 04:44.08 | Rancit | k, thanks for the answers lol |
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| 04:45.16 | NightHawkTheSane | wait, he logs on, asks a question, then quits when he doesn't get an answer in two minutes? |
| 04:45.33 | Kaydeethree | like that doesn't happen all the time? |
| 04:45.47 | NightHawkTheSane | I know, but it never ceases to amuse/boggle me |
| 04:45.53 | Kemayo | Many people don't quite understand how to use IRC to get answers to their questions, I think. |
| 04:46.00 | NightHawkTheSane | Especially now that i'm not entirely sober and easily amused. |
| 04:46.03 | Mecdemort | any bigwigs devs on? or someone that just knows a lot about making bigwigs modules? |
| 04:47.17 | Nimble | baggins does wierd things when categorizing my motes |
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| 04:51.34 | Kemayo | Ooo, free City of Heroes trial through gay.com. |
| 04:52.15 | RaydenUnicyclist | how would you know that exactly? |
| 04:53.16 | NightHawkTheSane | Kemayo is subtly trying to tell us something |
| 04:53.21 | Kemayo | One might think it's because I religiously read the feature articles at gay.com. Actually, though, I was looking around for a free trial because I'm curious about the game, and the official forums mentioned one going on there. |
| 04:53.29 | Kemayo | I'm really quite bigotted, you see. |
| 04:53.44 | NightHawkTheSane | See, I just assumed you were gay. |
| 04:54.08 | Kemayo | Well, of course. Gay for MMORPGs. |
| 04:54.29 | NightHawkTheSane | gay for mmogs? er. does that mean YOU are a mmog? |
| 04:56.03 | Kemayo | Potentially. It was a difficult childhood, as you might imagine. |
| 04:56.31 | NightHawkTheSane | "My sister's a spaceship, we had an odd childhood." |
| 04:56.57 | Kemayo | Does that seem right to you? |
| 04:58.32 | ckknight | bah |
| 04:58.38 | ckknight | I got my hands covered in wood stainer |
| 04:58.44 | ckknight | ...now I know how the negroes feel |
| 04:58.50 | NightHawkTheSane | stainer wood? I hardly know her. |
| 04:59.03 | ckknight | well, at least I was able to wash it off |
| 04:59.18 | Mecdemort | is there a way to have a module only enable itself in a specific zone? |
| 04:59.57 | aen` | http://www.guardian.co.uk/news/gallery/2007/jul/18/china.pollution?picture=330216042 |
| 05:01.16 | Kemayo | Mecdemort: Sure. You'd need to have something outside the module that watches to enable and disable it, though. |
| 05:01.42 | Kemayo | (Or you could just have checks inside the module that make it only function when inside the zone.) |
| 05:02.14 | Mecdemort | true enough, ill probably have to go that route |
| 05:03.19 | Wobwork | ... |
| 05:03.26 | Wobwork | Harry Potter Grief Councilling |
| 05:03.53 | Kemayo | I'd believe it. |
| 05:03.54 | Wobwork | "Terese Vorsheck, Certified Grief Counselor, Offers Expert Advice to Parents and Children Coping with Loss Related to Upcoming Harry Potter Release" |
| 05:03.59 | NightHawkTheSane | Wobwork: would it be bad form to stand outside and heckle? |
| 05:04.10 | Wobwork | NightHawkTheSane: I'd say ... no =P |
| 05:04.16 | NightHawkTheSane | Wobwork: :D |
| 05:04.23 | Kaydeethree | meh. I've read it. I'm still kinda stunned |
| 05:05.26 | NightHawkTheSane | do you.. need to be.. comforted. It'll be, okay. Read name of the wind, and you'll forget all about silly harry potter :P |
| 05:06.15 | Kaydeethree | nah. just, stunned. I'm surprised tbqh, it's been a few days since I finished it and my facebook profile still is tagged 'stunned' |
| 05:06.37 | NightHawkTheSane | (seriously, though, read 'name of the wind'. it's good) |
| 05:06.40 | Kyahx | Bellatrix kills Ron? |
| 05:06.51 | Kaydeethree | no spoilers from me |
| 05:06.58 | Kyahx | :P lol |
| 05:07.35 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r44291 10Parrot/CombatEvents.lua: Parrot_CombatEvents - make filters <= instead of <, so that if you heal someone and it's pure overheal (since it's <= 0 real healing), it won't show up at all, due to pointlessness. |
| 05:07.43 | Wobwork | I admire an author who can effectively kill off main characters |
| 05:08.00 | Kaydeethree | it's rare. makes the story sink in all that much more |
| 05:08.05 | Wobwork | then again I've read one where they kill the main protagonist 1/3 of the way into the book, and use his skin as a disguise. |
| 05:08.12 | Kemayo | Too many authors get sentimental about it, I agree. |
| 05:08.17 | Wobwork | I stopped reading at that point =P |
| 05:09.02 | Kyahx | night all |
| 05:09.42 | ckknight | need advice: should I support alpha for colors in Parrot? It'd make things more complicated and I really don't see a point... |
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| 05:11.39 | Trisorion | does anyone know what "DPSC" means |
| 05:11.52 | ckknight | no |
| 05:12.24 | NightHawkTheSane | google probably does |
| 05:13.08 | Kemayo | Gosh, the Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows wikipedia article has the most cites I've ever seen on wikipedia. |
| 05:13.11 | Arrowmaster | Trisorion: DPS per Cast? |
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| 05:13.20 | Arrowmaster | for thing that have dots |
| 05:13.45 | theoddone33 | so |
| 05:14.00 | theoddone33 | in four days of raiding, my new guild has caught up to the previously furthest progressed guild on horde side |
| 05:14.02 | theoddone33 | for my server |
| 05:14.34 | durcyn | you want a cookie? |
| 05:14.45 | Arrowmaster | in 2 days of raiding my current guild went from around 1000th place for US guilds to above 500th place |
| 05:14.48 | NightHawkTheSane | durcyn: ooh, i want a cookie |
| 05:14.49 | theoddone33 | no, it's just both sad and amusing |
| 05:15.02 | NightHawkTheSane | can I have his cookie? |
| 05:15.04 | theoddone33 | and I'm not a raiding member so it's not even my fault |
| 05:15.06 | Arrowmaster | 3 first kills in 2 days |
| 05:15.45 | theoddone33 | monday was kazzak and mag, tues was mag, orge and gruul, yesterday was void reaver, today was lurker |
| 05:16.04 | Arrowmaster | not bad |
| 05:16.25 | theoddone33 | yeah it's kind of fun to see happen |
| 05:16.30 | durcyn | oh. welcome to the 50th percentile. |
| 05:16.34 | theoddone33 | after almost nothing happening on horde side |
| 05:16.55 | theoddone33 | alliance has 2 guilds in the top 15 US |
| 05:17.09 | theoddone33 | horde is struggling with nightbane |
| 05:17.41 | Arrowmaster | last week thursday was mulgar, gruul, mag, hydross, and lurker, sunday was morogrim and karathress both first kills, monday was al'ar first kill |
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| 05:18.01 | theoddone33 | nice |
| 05:18.07 | theoddone33 | your guild is better |
| 05:19.13 | Arrowmaster | we got to 2nd horde side when we killed lurker, but 1st horde side just killed the first boss in hyjal |
| 05:19.17 | theoddone33 | lurker dropped a plate healing chest that made me wish I was 70 |
| 05:19.54 | Arrowmaster | still got a bit to catch up |
| 05:26.27 | Sole | I love working on an addon called Cockfight |
| 05:26.36 | Sole | command to open options menu is /cock :D |
| 05:27.24 | Wobwork | you like to slash cock? |
| 05:27.58 | Thrae | Wobwork: Silly, only the Nelf females were the -real- dykes :D |
| 05:28.21 | Thrae | "Oh hi Nelf male hubbies...yes, we remained 100% faithful to you for the last 1000 years" |
| 05:29.52 | ckknight | Antiarc|Work: Threat-1.0-44159 (Threat-1.0):677: attempt to compare nil with number |
| 05:30.00 | ckknight | logged in in-combat |
| 05:30.12 | ckknight | well, basically, I relogged during combat |
| 05:31.55 | art3mis | wob |
| 05:32.10 | art3mis | go to zinwraths home site |
| 05:32.15 | Wobwork | link? |
| 05:32.27 | art3mis | and watch the obliviious movies the The Grind |
| 05:32.36 | art3mis | myndfire.com |
| 05:32.39 | art3mis | or myndflame.com |
| 05:32.42 | art3mis | cant remember which |
| 05:32.57 | ckknight | is CIA down? |
| 05:32.59 | ckknight | oh, yea |
| 05:33.03 | art3mis | like your mom |
| 05:33.04 | ckknight | okay, I just did a Parrot commit |
| 05:33.08 | art3mis | woooooooooOOOOOOoooooooooooooo |
| 05:33.41 | Arrowmaster | theres a netsplit, cia is on the other side of it |
| 05:33.42 | clad|book | ckknight: CIA got netsplit, so he announced elsewhere :P |
| 05:33.51 | ckknight | lol |
| 05:35.06 | Wobwork | art3mis: any particular reason? |
| 05:35.19 | art3mis | they're relaly funny |
| 05:35.22 | art3mis | really |
| 05:35.25 | Wobwork | good enough =) |
| 05:35.26 | art3mis | the grind 1 and 2 |
| 05:35.34 | art3mis | almost zinwrath humour quality |
| 05:35.44 | Wobwork | pity it just crashed ff |
| 05:35.44 | art3mis | and lots of little jokes ponly old people will actually get ;P |
| 05:35.49 | Wobwork | woot |
| 05:35.52 | art3mis | wow you must suck ;P |
| 05:36.01 | Wobwork | maybe I'll get more =P |
| 05:36.10 | art3mis | crashing ff is like being unable to tie your velcro shoes |
| 05:36.23 | Wobwork | It's a style choice! |
| 05:36.35 | art3mis | if you fall into either category sell you computer and take up scrabble |
| 05:37.23 | NightHawkTheSane | there's nothing wrong with scrabble |
| 05:39.21 | Sole | http://ace.pastey.net/71081 this stops my aceoptions table from loading |
| 05:40.45 | ckknight | where? |
| 05:40.48 | Sole | wait disregard that |
| 05:40.57 | Sole | I seem to have fixed it without realising I did |
| 05:40.57 | Wobwork | hm |
| 05:41.00 | Wobwork | I like the music choice |
| 05:41.04 | art3mis | whos project was sphere again? |
| 05:41.15 | art3mis | hypers? |
| 05:41.29 | ckknight | Benumbed |
| 05:41.31 | art3mis | im sorta confused as to where button 1 is |
| 05:41.49 | art3mis | so it kind of makessetting the spellsand stuff in them ;P |
| 05:42.00 | art3mis | shall we say difficult |
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| 05:47.08 | Sole | WTF |
| 05:47.12 | ckknight | ? |
| 05:47.19 | Sole | my warhammer download timed out |
| 05:47.20 | Sole | o_O |
| 05:47.23 | Sole | fucking bitch |
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| 05:50.39 | art3mis | yeah i relaly like this sphere thingy |
| 05:51.00 | art3mis | i could replace most of my bars and player uf with it |
| 05:51.58 | Sole | ooh yay |
| 05:52.12 | Sole | I tried the alternate 500mb chunk download of warhammer |
| 05:52.14 | Sole | and that let me use flashget |
| 05:52.32 | Sole | long story short: download time went from 20-30hours to 2-3 hours :P |
| 05:56.51 | Xuerian | i want warhammer dagnabbit. >_> |
| 05:56.54 | Mecdemort | ~= is lua's not equal to right? i'm havin a brain fart |
| 05:56.55 | purl | Mecdemort: what are you talking about? |
| 05:57.09 | Xuerian | yes |
| 05:57.19 | Mecdemort | ~ nothin at all |
| 05:58.16 | ckknight | purl sucks |
| 05:58.17 | purl | only if you ask nicely and pay well. |
| 05:58.27 | Mecdemort | lol |
| 05:58.34 | Mecdemort | purls a pimp |
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| 06:01.11 | Sole | Xuerian: guess what I have that you dont? |
| 06:01.29 | Xuerian | Sole: Would never be able to fathom. |
| 06:01.38 | Sole | Xuerian: warhammer in 3 hours yayaya |
| 06:01.48 | Xuerian | Ah-hah. |
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| 06:02.21 | Killmore | how did you all get a beta invite ? :\ |
| 06:02.31 | Wobwork | He'd tell you |
| 06:02.35 | Wobwork | but then he'd have to kill you too |
| 06:02.40 | Killmore | oh :( |
| 06:02.48 | Killmore | * vanish * |
| 06:02.56 | Wobwork | *hunters mark* |
| 06:03.08 | Killmore | damn :( |
| 06:04.37 | Killmore | Warhammer Online: Age of Reckoning |
| 06:04.37 | Killmore | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:04.57 | Sole | Status: Account Created |
| 06:05.14 | ckknight | Killmore: which page is this? |
| 06:05.21 | Sole | ooh I think I know |
| 06:05.32 | Sole | Killmore: what does your Current Associations: say? |
| 06:05.41 | Sole | Im listed as a Veteran WAR Newsletter Subscriber |
| 06:05.48 | Killmore | none |
| 06:05.55 | Sole | there ya go :P |
| 06:06.02 | ckknight | :-P |
| 06:06.29 | Killmore | :( |
| 06:06.33 | Sole | theyre more likely to give a beta invite to someone who has been subscribed to their newsletter since before alpha started :P |
| 06:06.55 | art3mis | you looked like a gnome in need of mail services... why is it called gnome mail, well we cater to gnomes.. and we're horribly horribly horribly racist. |
| 06:07.11 | art3mis | that line alone makes the 2 episode of The Grind rule |
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| 06:13.09 | Thrae | Crazy European bastards. Even the damn bot's European. |
| 06:13.22 | ckknight | curse their blue blood |
| 06:16.30 | art3mis | says the spam eater ;P |
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| 06:17.13 | ckknight | spam eater? |
| 06:17.15 | ckknight | I don't eat spam |
| 06:17.21 | ckknight | that shit has so much sodium in it |
| 06:17.23 | art3mis | yer hawaiian arencha? |
| 06:17.36 | ckknight | no, I'm white and I live in Hawaii |
| 06:17.42 | art3mis | born there? |
| 06:17.45 | ckknight | no |
| 06:17.47 | art3mis | oh |
| 06:17.54 | art3mis | army brat? |
| 06:18.00 | ckknight | no |
| 06:18.05 | art3mis | parents surf? |
| 06:18.17 | ckknight | nobody surfs here |
| 06:18.23 | ckknight | it's mostly a myth |
| 06:18.25 | art3mis | how the hell did you end up there then? |
| 06:18.30 | ckknight | only a very small amount of people surf |
| 06:18.42 | art3mis | yeahbut the people from mainland that move there do surf |
| 06:18.43 | ckknight | my parents live here |
| 06:18.52 | art3mis | thus my confusion |
| 06:19.07 | ckknight | it had a good job for my mom when she moved here |
| 06:19.12 | art3mis | ahh |
| 06:19.21 | ckknight | and my dad's business had gotten into trouble because of political scandal |
| 06:19.28 | ckknight | by association, not him doing anything himself |
| 06:19.30 | Mecdemort | ok with tortoiseSVN how would I set all the svn properties without first importing and checking out the folder |
| 06:19.38 | ckknight | so they moved to Hawaii |
| 06:19.43 | ckknight | I was 4 at the time |
| 06:19.43 | art3mis | hes the reason for mesothelioma isnt he! |
| 06:19.58 | art3mis | that has to be my favorite disease |
| 06:20.14 | vhaarr | Mecdemort: Read the error message that the SVN gives you, don't just dismiss it. |
| 06:20.20 | ckknight | what's it do? |
| 06:20.58 | Mecdemort | vhaarr: what do you mean? I havnt done anything with the svn yet |
| 06:21.12 | vhaarr | Mecdemort: right, then how do you know you have to set the svn properties? |
| 06:21.32 | vhaarr | Mecdemort: http://wowace.com/wiki/SVN_AutoProps |
| 06:21.51 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r44295 10Parrot/TriggerConditions.lua: Parrot_TriggerConditions - allow for easy inversion of secondary conditions. Because of this, Buff Active and Not in Warrior Stance have been added. |
| 06:22.00 | Mecdemort | I've done it with a different addon in the sandbox, I'm refering more to externals than the autoprops |
| 06:22.36 | vhaarr | you can't do it with externals without having a copy of the trunk and svn add files then set the props |
| 06:23.53 | Mecdemort | ok, what about the svn:Keywords for Revision? |
| 06:25.02 | vhaarr | perhaps you should read the URL I pasted |
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| 06:27.52 | Mecdemort | ah, i didnt know i could add the keywords to the config file |
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| 06:30.21 | Wobwork | One thing that always throws me when watching mechanima |
| 06:30.28 | Wobwork | is the american accents |
| 06:30.56 | Wobwork | I expect at least a neutral accent if not the 'blizzard supplied nationality' type |
| 06:31.54 | ckknight | what's wrong with american accents? |
| 06:31.58 | Wobwork | well |
| 06:32.01 | Wobwork | it's american =) |
| 06:32.07 | Wobwork | it's not what I hear in game |
| 06:32.08 | ckknight | woo, America! |
| 06:32.18 | Wobwork | so I kinda expect the same voices =) |
| 06:32.55 | ckknight | you mean they use American for Dwarves and such? |
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| 06:33.03 | Wobwork | I mean the human male voice is fairly accent neutral aside from a british overtone |
| 06:33.15 | Wobwork | Scottish for dwarves |
| 06:33.20 | Wobwork | Russian for draenei |
| 06:33.26 | Wobwork | jamaican for trolls |
| 06:33.32 | Wobwork | etc etc |
| 06:33.43 | Thrae | Wobwork: I think it's completely racist my black-toned human male doesn't break into rap in every voice clip. |
| 06:33.56 | Wobwork | in fact, hearing any orc without the growly orc voice sounds weird |
| 06:34.37 | Wobwork | like that Lvl70 ETC video was kinda weird =) |
| 06:34.49 | Wobwork | I was expecting the 'Zugzug' voice |
| 06:36.44 | ckknight | Humans are basically American |
| 06:36.44 | ckknight | Draenei are Polish and you know it |
| 06:36.44 | ckknight | Nelves are basically American as well |
| 06:36.44 | ckknight | same with Belves |
| 06:36.44 | ckknight | and Undead |
| 06:36.47 | ckknight | and Gnomes are pretty neutral |
| 06:36.49 | ckknight | Goblins too |
| 06:36.53 | ckknight | Orcs are basically african-american |
| 06:36.55 | ckknight | Tauren are basically English-speaking Native Americans |
| 06:38.13 | ckknight | there's no real Brits or non-Scottish/Russian Europeans |
| 06:38.15 | ckknight | which, imho, there should be |
| 06:38.17 | ckknight | it'd be pimp |
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| 06:39.26 | Wobwork | hm, I haven't encountered enough polish people to make that judgement |
| 06:40.33 | Wobwork | but true on the humies etc |
| 06:40.41 | Wobwork | although the accent is fairly close to neutral |
| 06:41.02 | Wobwork | enough that the majority of voice acting on mechanima is enough to make me blink a bit at the difference |
| 06:41.04 | ckknight | doesn't Neutral = American? |
| 06:41.07 | Wobwork | no |
| 06:41.15 | Wobwork | Neutral is neutral =P |
| 06:41.26 | Wobwork | ie unidentifiable as a specific accent |
| 06:41.28 | ckknight | and by that I mean the diagonal strip that goes from Los Angeles through Illinois to Upstate New York |
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| 06:41.35 | ckknight | Ohio's in there as well |
| 06:41.53 | Wobwork | Try envisioning a little more world wide =P |
| 06:42.03 | Wobwork | a neutral accent is not 'american' |
| 06:42.12 | Wobwork | if you want to define it that way, a neutral accent would be british |
| 06:42.17 | ckknight | I don't see why it isn't |
| 06:42.19 | aen` | theres alot of dialectual variation in north/midwest USA |
| 06:42.25 | ckknight | sure is |
| 06:42.27 | Wobwork | it's a basic definition |
| 06:42.31 | ckknight | and south, aen` |
| 06:42.37 | ckknight | the diagonal strip is kinda funky, though |
| 06:42.42 | ckknight | where people don't have accents |
| 06:42.44 | Wobwork | a neutral accent is one that is basically unidentifiable to region |
| 06:42.50 | aen` | i dunno tho |
| 06:42.53 | aen` | chicago = accent |
| 06:42.55 | aen` | ohio = accent |
| 06:42.58 | aen` | ny = accent |
| 06:43.00 | aen` | nj = accent |
| 06:44.05 | ckknight | ohio has the most indistinguishable accent in America. |
| 06:44.09 | ckknight | hate to break it to you |
| 06:44.11 | Mecdemort | hmm wowloader update, does that mean patch on tuesday? |
| 06:44.15 | aen` | not true |
| 06:44.19 | ckknight | that's what it's known for |
| 06:44.22 | aen` | north ohio has illinoisish accent |
| 06:44.34 | aen` | middle ohio has very fast paced/slur accent |
| 06:44.41 | Wobwork | hm |
| 06:44.44 | aen` | and southern ohio is pretty normal |
| 06:44.50 | Wobwork | I think you're referring to General American |
| 06:44.59 | ckknight | maybe it's Iowa I'm thinking of |
| 06:45.01 | Wobwork | The General American accent is not thought of as a linguistic standard in the sense that Received Pronunciation (RP) has historically been the standard, prestige variant in England, but its speakers are perceived as "accentless" by most Americans |
| 06:45.02 | aen` | i live in ohio, i know these things |
| 06:45.14 | Wobwork | note the "By most Americans" =P |
| 06:45.28 | Wobwork | ie only in America can it be considered accentless |
| 06:45.57 | Wobwork | and it's 'neutral' to regional accents -within america- |
| 06:46.22 | Wobwork | when I say neutral english, I mean across the entire world |
| 06:46.34 | ckknight | you mean America's planet |
| 06:46.42 | Mecdemort | the description on the files.wowace.com list is from the .toc file description right? |
| 06:46.46 | Mikk | Mecdemort: yes |
| 06:46.47 | Wobwork | Mecdemort: yes |
| 06:46.55 | Wobwork | America? Fuck no =P |
| 06:47.10 | Mecdemort | Team America? Fuck ya |
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| 06:50.56 | Wobwork | hehe, it seems that non-americans have a more successful time imitating american accents than americans imitating non-american accents |
| 06:50.59 | Wobwork | gogo wikipedia |
| 06:51.09 | Wobwork | (at least in hollywood) |
| 06:53.57 | ckknight | because America > all? |
| 06:54.13 | ckknight | it's easiest to emulate us, because it is merely the natural progression of things |
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| 06:54.41 | sb | ckknight: mehh, too many things to test :) |
| 06:54.50 | ckknight | sb: hrm? |
| 06:55.01 | Mikk | the indians would agree, and there's more people speaking pidgin english than american english :P |
| 06:55.13 | Mikk | disagree* damnit |
| 06:56.01 | sb | ckknight: parrot |
| 06:56.04 | ckknight | not sure what the indians have to do about this topic of English language |
| 06:56.09 | ckknight | sb: oh, want one more? |
| 06:56.27 | ckknight | Mikk: and I can almost guarantee that your use of the word pidgin is wrong |
| 06:56.36 | sb | just got up and there are like 10000 new commit messages :o |
| 06:56.41 | ckknight | you can use a dialect |
| 06:57.13 | sb | ckknight: well mh - i'm not sure how complicated that would be ;o |
| 06:57.22 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r44296 10Parrot/Triggers.lua: Parrot_Triggers - add soundfile support. Uses SharedMediaLib |
| 06:57.23 | ckknight | but in very few places is an actual pidgin used |
| 06:57.43 | ckknight | here in Hawaii, it's horrible |
| 06:57.51 | sb | ah, so finally mk 'finish him' on execute ready ;o |
| 06:58.16 | ckknight | though actually what they call pidgin here is actually a creole, specifically the "Hawaiian-English creole" |
| 06:58.35 | sb | pitbull like profile support (with import/export function - so i could share my settings with other users easily) - but i think that could wait till its feature-complete |
| 06:58.58 | ckknight | sb: I've achieved parity with MSBT with that last commit. |
| 06:59.08 | ckknight | I'm almost done with SCT, just gotta steal the animation styles |
| 06:59.38 | ckknight | frankly, the use of said creole really hinders the locals here, as it impedes them in business both here and on the mainland, where it would be near-impossible to get a decent job with it |
| 06:59.46 | sb | well - imo its already >msbt/sct for ~1 week now |
| 07:00.00 | ckknight | feature parity is important |
| 07:00.15 | ckknight | I'm gonna steal MSBTCooldowns now, methinks |
| 07:00.26 | Pheredhel | hi |
| 07:00.34 | ckknight | hey Pheredhel |
| 07:00.50 | sb | whats that? notification on 'cooldown ready'? |
| 07:01.01 | ckknight | yep |
| 07:01.09 | ckknight | [Fade ready!] |
| 07:01.11 | ckknight | etc. |
| 07:01.35 | ckknight | I'm thinking I'm gonna redo the casing for events/triggers as well |
| 07:01.41 | ckknight | though it'll break people's SVs |
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| 07:01.49 | ckknight | because Incoming Melee Damage should be Incoming melee damage, really |
| 07:01.52 | ckknight | no need for title case |
| 07:01.52 | Pheredhel | just as I seem not to get it right: what is the "empty" tag for svn revisions? |
| 07:02.18 | ckknight | no idea the context |
| 07:03.09 | ckknight | s/the/what |
| 07:03.15 | Trisorion | Is there any good guide to eepanels out there? |
| 07:03.32 | sb | ckknight: mh - do you have configurable alpha for text (font)? |
| 07:03.38 | ckknight | no |
| 07:03.42 | ckknight | I asked about it earlier |
| 07:03.45 | ckknight | nobody gave me a response |
| 07:03.56 | sb | oh hm - didnt see that |
| 07:04.03 | sb | (just reading curse msbt comments) |
| 07:04.22 | ckknight | basically, if I add it: things will be slightly more complex on the backend, people's SVs will break, basically, and I don't really see much of a point |
| 07:04.43 | Trisorion | SV? |
| 07:04.48 | sb | savedvariables |
| 07:04.53 | vhaarr | ckknight: http://ace.pastey.net/71082 |
| 07:05.20 | ckknight | vhaarr: Waterfall's broken for passValue with multiToggle |
| 07:05.27 | vhaarr | alright |
| 07:05.35 | ckknight | I sent a botmail to Nargiddley |
| 07:06.12 | Benumbed | guildwars advertising on wowace updater, lolz |
| 07:06.50 | art3mis | haha |
| 07:06.58 | art3mis | benumbed is sphere yers? |
| 07:06.59 | ckknight | *shrug* |
| 07:07.07 | Benumbed | yea |
| 07:07.16 | art3mis | spiffy work |
| 07:07.31 | Trisorion | wait so eepanels is no longer updated/ |
| 07:07.40 | Benumbed | please dont bash, dont think i can take it..clear all of ssc but vash today and still no shaman/etc token |
| 07:07.54 | art3mis | i did have a question though regarding the button selection bottom option where harm/helpful and stuff is listed |
| 07:08.06 | art3mis | what IS that for? |
| 07:08.18 | art3mis | i didnt notice any actually difference in behavior |
| 07:08.23 | Benumbed | will change depending on if target is friendly/enemy |
| 07:08.32 | Benumbed | did you change the unit to "target" |
| 07:08.33 | art3mis | ahh |
| 07:08.35 | art3mis | yeah |
| 07:08.37 | Benumbed | default is normal |
| 07:08.44 | Benumbed | which it wont work on |
| 07:08.45 | art3mis | oh no not that one |
| 07:08.55 | art3mis | the bottom pulldown |
| 07:08.56 | vhaarr | Mecdemort: like I posted on the forum, if you have any questions on how to make a BW plugin, just ask |
| 07:09.02 | Benumbed | yeah it dont work well, since nothing to check against |
| 07:09.03 | art3mis | the top pulldown works great |
| 07:09.08 | art3mis | ahh okay |
| 07:09.33 | art3mis | only thing i'd suggest is showing a tooltip for the buttons if they're empty and you hover on em ;P |
| 07:09.41 | Benumbed | Button xx -> Button Unit -> target |
| 07:09.45 | art3mis | common sense didnt play much part in me finding which was button 1 ;P |
| 07:09.52 | art3mis | when they're all on heh |
| 07:10.00 | Benumbed | yeah i didnt know how to do that |
| 07:10.04 | Pheredhel | ok, the svn FAQ says there is no such feature, so how do you get the revision strings like "$Revision: 36179 $" into the addons? |
| 07:10.05 | art3mis | oh okay |
| 07:10.09 | Benumbed | maybe label them when sphere unlocked |
| 07:10.18 | Benumbed | change count text or someting to the number they are |
| 07:10.31 | art3mis | oh the other question i had if i select autohide |
| 07:10.46 | ckknight | Pheredhel: svn:keywords = "Date Rev" |
| 07:10.47 | art3mis | its supposedto menu popup if its set for say target/combat right? |
| 07:10.49 | Mecdemort | vhaarr: surprisingly i think i have it under control... for the moment |
| 07:10.55 | Pheredhel | thanks |
| 07:11.13 | Benumbed | autohide, means that it will autohide that "bar" after 3 secs of your cursor not on it |
| 07:11.41 | art3mis | and auto expand if i move over it and the "combat always etc" condition is met? |
| 07:11.49 | art3mis | in the case of amenu that is |
| 07:12.01 | Benumbed | dont have auto open option yet |
| 07:12.07 | art3mis | ahh okies |
| 07:12.30 | Benumbed | the "in combat" means it will only show that bar in combat, regardless what state its in (open/closed) |
| 07:12.32 | art3mis | im stupidly addicted to it now |
| 07:12.41 | art3mis | been mucking with it for a while now |
| 07:12.58 | art3mis | if could feasibly replace my whole actionbar collection |
| 07:13.04 | Benumbed | weekend, so bg and arena...no update til moday |
| 07:13.10 | CIA-22 | 03jerry 07jerry * r44297 10Grid/Grid/GridLayout.lua: Grid: Update the pet color when set to Creature Type and when a UNIT_PORTRAIT_UPDATE event is set. |
| 07:13.23 | [Ammo] | morning |
| 07:13.29 | art3mis | the only thing that it needs is the ability to "rotate" so that you've got say 3 combat "menus" always on the right hand side or whatever |
| 07:13.32 | Benumbed | i uninstalled bartender3, dont need bar mod no more |
| 07:13.42 | art3mis | imo anyways |
| 07:14.09 | Benumbed | dont understand what you mean rotate |
| 07:14.22 | art3mis | like setup bar 7,8,9 as healing menu buttons |
| 07:14.43 | art3mis | and a tick would make those active, like say dps, healing toggle |
| 07:14.55 | art3mis | and 7 8 9 would be on the right side of sphere automagically |
| 07:15.15 | art3mis | and tick dps and bars 2 3 4 would then appear on the right side |
| 07:15.26 | art3mis | make sense? |
| 07:15.30 | Benumbed | ohh change depending on what your doing |
| 07:15.34 | art3mis | nods |
| 07:15.37 | Benumbed | like stance |
| 07:15.50 | art3mis | like have a dps, healing, sitting around in org |
| 07:15.57 | art3mis | custom setting |
| 07:16.13 | Benumbed | could add option "show only when healing" and then "show only when dps'ing" |
| 07:16.29 | art3mis | so that you can esentially still have all your buttons there if you need em but the right side or whatever side you pick as the "active" side would then recieve the marked buttons |
| 07:16.45 | Benumbed | yeah dont think thats restricted |
| 07:17.03 | art3mis | thats relaly the only thing i'd love to see in it |
| 07:17.08 | art3mis | other than that its groovy |
| 07:17.25 | Benumbed | im really suprised the "show in combat" works |
| 07:17.31 | art3mis | heh yeah |
| 07:17.35 | art3mis | was mucking with that |
| 07:17.36 | Benumbed | since it dont kick in til when in combat |
| 07:17.47 | Benumbed | which should be locked down by then |
| 07:17.50 | art3mis | just gotta right click the mob |
| 07:18.05 | art3mis | maybe check reaction? |
| 07:18.20 | Benumbed | thats helpful/harmful |
| 07:18.22 | ckknight | question: should abbreviated spell names apply to buffs as well? |
| 07:18.42 | art3mis | well no i mean so lets say you're killing spiders |
| 07:18.49 | art3mis | oh wait |
| 07:18.51 | art3mis | i see now |
| 07:18.53 | omega | ckknight: the most normal ones I would say, like AI, PWF, MOTW |
| 07:19.02 | omega | ckknight: but perhaps a setting for it? |
| 07:19.11 | art3mis | soinstead of in combat i should pick target and helpful/harm ? |
| 07:19.19 | ckknight | omega: well, it only abbreviates if it's >30 chars |
| 07:19.24 | Benumbed | yes |
| 07:19.26 | ckknight | based on an option |
| 07:19.33 | art3mis | okies that makes a bit moresense |
| 07:19.51 | Benumbed | like on my priest, i have healing spells on bar 8, 9 friendly targetted |
| 07:19.53 | art3mis | oh is there a way to clear a button? |
| 07:19.56 | CIA-22 | 03jerry 07jerry * r44298 10Grid/Grid/GridLayout.lua: Grid: Remove the last code path that could lead to no unit color. |
| 07:19.59 | Benumbed | they change to smite, etc when hostile target |
| 07:20.28 | CIA-22 | 03ammo * r44299 10oRA2/ (Leader/MainTank.lua Optional/PlayerTarget.lua): oRA2: tweak playertarget/maintank to use the generic coloredNames cache |
| 07:20.28 | Benumbed | still working on that, if you change the button type..it clears the whole bar tho |
| 07:20.35 | art3mis | adding form would be a neat touch too |
| 07:20.44 | Benumbed | form works |
| 07:20.45 | omega | ckknight: ahh |
| 07:20.51 | art3mis | does it? |
| 07:20.53 | Benumbed | stance/stealth button type |
| 07:20.57 | Benumbed | yes it changes |
| 07:21.03 | Benumbed | priest etc |
| 07:21.08 | Benumbed | shadowform etc |
| 07:21.08 | art3mis | ooo didnt notice that part, il have to play more |
| 07:21.57 | CIA-22 | 03roartindon * r44300 10Assessment/Modules/ (Aura.lua Damage.lua): |
| 07:21.57 | CIA-22 | Assessment |
| 07:21.57 | CIA-22 | - Added aura gathering filters |
| 07:21.57 | CIA-22 | - Fixed one local name typo in Damage.lua |
| 07:22.07 | Benumbed | still havent figured out how i want to do reagent counts etc |
| 07:22.17 | art3mis | maybe an activate show all and hide all toggle would be good too |
| 07:22.51 | Benumbed | thinking about sphere handling ONLY left/right click |
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| 07:23.02 | Benumbed | and can set theose like buttons |
| 07:23.14 | Benumbed | no tooltip on the spells attached to it tho |
| 07:23.30 | Benumbed | since then would mess up tooltip over for reagents etc i have planned |
| 07:23.47 | art3mis | anyways nice work on it |
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| 07:24.21 | art3mis | as a cube would be neat too ;P |
| 07:24.47 | Benumbed | rotating the texture would be hard imo on cube |
| 07:24.54 | Benumbed | for health etc |
| 07:24.54 | art3mis | ohyeah |
| 07:25.03 | art3mis | could just doan up down on left and right |
| 07:25.07 | art3mis | down up |
| 07:25.10 | Mecdemort | ooo i think i've nailed it |
| 07:25.10 | syeren | ckknight, I only just woke up :P |
| 07:25.15 | syeren | I'm European remember :p |
| 07:25.23 | ckknight | syeren: you have a lot of testing to do, then |
| 07:25.34 | syeren | Give me a list in PM of what you want then please :p |
| 07:25.35 | ckknight | :-P |
| 07:25.38 | Benumbed | dunno how to go about doing the skinning |
| 07:25.51 | ckknight | syeren: oh, the whole incoming cast Mana Burn thing |
| 07:26.02 | syeren | Is it set up by default? |
| 07:26.03 | Benumbed | could edit the skinning lua file but then updates would override |
| 07:26.10 | mitch0 | yobidiyo |
| 07:26.21 | Mecdemort | now if i could just find out what thrall yells when he dies, i think it would be complete |
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| 07:26.25 | art3mis | have a layout setting? |
| 07:26.37 | ckknight | syeren: not Mana Burn, you'll have to set it up |
| 07:26.40 | art3mis | so it draws it based on what you pick? |
| 07:27.00 | Benumbed | could |
| 07:27.17 | Benumbed | have presets, then custom settings |
| 07:27.24 | art3mis | nods |
| 07:27.38 | Benumbed | input location of xxx texture for button pushed, etc |
| 07:27.39 | art3mis | that would eliminate the need to rotating bars too |
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| 07:28.15 | art3mis | since as a square you have 3-4 on the right side and just have different values based on in/out of combat and form |
| 07:28.28 | Benumbed | the portrait fading was an accident that grew on me |
| 07:28.33 | art3mis | heh |
| 07:28.42 | art3mis | ihave threat text over it so i never noticed |
| 07:29.05 | Benumbed | yeah glad i switched to dogtag for that |
| 07:29.10 | Benumbed | less of a headache |
| 07:29.39 | art3mis | heh im actually debating getting rid of my uf's |
| 07:29.41 | Benumbed | had headache for a week on the buttons |
| 07:29.57 | art3mis | is it possible to expand it to cover sort of a party thing? |
| 07:30.09 | art3mis | just the hp/mana/portrait |
| 07:30.13 | art3mis | nothing else |
| 07:30.23 | Benumbed | like add another sphere? |
| 07:30.30 | art3mis | yeah for each party member |
| 07:30.44 | Benumbed | could add where can have multiple spheres |
| 07:30.49 | Benumbed | but no buttons etc |
| 07:30.51 | art3mis | nods |
| 07:30.59 | art3mis | just to wathc health really |
| 07:31.05 | AnduinLothar | Is Omen/Threat fixed for pally judgements now? |
| 07:31.14 | Mecdemort | vhaarr: are you rabbit? |
| 07:31.16 | Benumbed | right now you can set outer to like your hp, then innter to ummm...pet hp |
| 07:31.24 | vhaarr | Mecdemort: yes |
| 07:31.24 | Benumbed | inner* |
| 07:31.43 | art3mis | yeah i mean it as kind of a complete UF replacement |
| 07:31.48 | art3mis | since i have perfect raid for raid stuff |
| 07:31.50 | Mecdemort | vhaar: ah, did you ever get that email i sent you for adding events to transcriptor in-game |
| 07:31.54 | art3mis | and a hude for target |
| 07:31.56 | art3mis | hud |
| 07:32.06 | Benumbed | my screen is so messy |
| 07:32.09 | vhaarr | Mecdemort: probably, but I didn't check my mail for a month |
| 07:32.18 | Mecdemort | vhaarr: lol ok |
| 07:32.20 | art3mis | if there was a way todisplay party members in sphere it wouldreplace the rest of my uf's |
| 07:32.48 | Benumbed | i have hud showing me my info, the pitbull player telling me, then sphere |
| 07:33.10 | art3mis | heh |
| 07:33.30 | art3mis | the party stuff would only need basic stuff.. dont even need aura support |
| 07:33.37 | Benumbed | which reminds me, ckknight...it possible to have raid unitframes be grouped but set how many rows/colums? |
| 07:33.47 | ckknight | nope |
| 07:34.02 | Benumbed | 2 high - right would be nice |
| 07:34.15 | Benumbed | or 2 wide - down |
| 07:35.05 | Benumbed | and still get that bug where my party unitframes disappear for no reason |
| 07:37.34 | CIA-22 | 03antiarc * r44301 10Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0/ClassModules/Shaman.lua: Threat-1.0: Fixes to Elemental Precision |
| 07:37.52 | AnduinLothar | ah Antiarc|Work is the one to ask |
| 07:38.08 | Punkie` | http://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/goto.png <-- if only it were real |
| 07:38.13 | AnduinLothar | tho... are you testing those at work before you commit? |
| 07:38.39 | AnduinLothar | cause some peeps were having issues and basicly just said don't update in the middle of the day, wait till he gets home and debugs, lol |
| 07:39.05 | Mikk | yup |
| 07:39.08 | Mikk | that's about it |
| 07:40.11 | Thrae | If you want to update where you can't test it, use /branches |
| 07:40.49 | ckknight | Punkie`: goto is useful in some places. |
| 07:41.13 | Mikk | goto rocks for bailing down to cleanup code for a function in languages that don't have try, finally |
| 07:41.27 | Mikk | but if you're gotoing UP, you deserve all the pain that's coming to you |
| 07:42.17 | Punkie` | I mean the "Aw, screw good practices.. what's the worst that can happen" frame :P |
| 07:42.20 | sylvanaar | only for languages without stack-unwinding |
| 07:42.29 | Thrae | goto is good for situations where speed is critical -- otherwise there are other methods which look, and are, a lot cleaner |
| 07:42.40 | Punkie` | regardless of what he actually used ;) |
| 07:43.05 | Thrae | Well of course, goto is also for the situations where the other methods don't work ;) |
| 07:43.21 | Thrae | But god help you if they don't. |
| 07:43.31 | Mikk | Thrae: so, in a C function, where i'm allocating and opening stuff that can go wrong in, oh, let's say 7 different places, and for each I want to clean up previous resources before exiting.... |
| 07:43.47 | Benumbed | guildy got off his 3 day ban today, first thing i asked him was to make me 50 flasks |
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| 07:44.36 | Thrae | Mikk: CleanUp(...) |
| 07:45.01 | sylvanaar | the C method is the continuous check if (!err) {} |
| 07:45.26 | Mikk | error prone |
| 07:45.27 | Mikk | like hell |
| 07:45.36 | sylvanaar | whicch |
| 07:46.50 | Mikk | a=getsomething(); if(!a) return false; b=getsomethingelse(); if(!b) { unget(a); return false; } c=getathirdthing() { unget(a); unget(b); return false; } |
| 07:47.01 | sylvanaar | no |
| 07:47.09 | Neebler | OMGOMGOMG premades on the PTR |
| 07:47.27 | krka | oh god, i thought that was lua first |
| 07:47.31 | Gngsk | did you just wet yourself? |
| 07:47.32 | krka | "what is that table for?..." |
| 07:47.43 | CIA-22 | 03roartindon * r44302 10Assessment/Modules/Damage.lua: |
| 07:47.43 | CIA-22 | Assessment |
| 07:47.43 | CIA-22 | - Added Avoidance display sets |
| 07:47.43 | Mikk | hehe |
| 07:48.34 | sylvanaar | if (!err) { b=f(); } if (!err && b) { more stuff} else { cleanup a; err=true; } ... |
| 07:48.38 | Sole | OMGOMGOMG |
| 07:48.44 | ckknight | Mikk: gotos should never go backwards, and they should never be used on unnamed positions. |
| 07:48.55 | krka | a=getsomething(); if(!a) return ungetters(a,b,c); b=getsomethingelse(); if(!b) return ungetters(a,b,c) c=getathirdthing() return ungetters(a,b,c) |
| 07:49.01 | krka | how about that? |
| 07:49.02 | Sole | WARHAMMER FINISHED DOWNLOADING |
| 07:49.02 | Sole | thought Id announce it |
| 07:49.21 | Mikk | well, having been charged with maintaining a multimillion line code project for about 10 years now |
| 07:49.41 | sylvanaar | you can use a "continue execution" flag instead of a goto |
| 07:49.49 | sylvanaar | its the same thing |
| 07:49.52 | Mikk | i can safely say that C code that just does "goto bailout" on failure causes a lot less hassle than anything else |
| 07:49.54 | krka | boolean ungetters(a, b, c) if (a) unget(a); if (b) unget(b); ... return false; } |
| 07:49.55 | krka | or something |
| 07:50.25 | Mikk | an ungetters() assumes that this nice little function knows how to "unget" all the data types involved.. and that you remember to supply all the parameters in all instances where it's called |
| 07:50.34 | Mikk | and not just the first time your write it |
| 07:50.43 | Mikk | also when the function gets changed three years down the line |
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| 07:50.59 | Thrae | Mikk: I can write really bad looking code using gotos as well, that doesn't mean gotos are necessarily bad. I was speaking in terms of what may be more efficient if worked from the ground up. Your project is probably one where you do not have that luxury, and gotos are then more useful. |
| 07:51.07 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r44303 10Parrot/Triggers.lua: Parrot_Triggers - fix removal of triggers. |
| 07:51.16 | Antiarc | http://xkcd.com/ |
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| 07:51.47 | Mikk | In a higher level language... yeah.. stack unwind + try/finally pairs ftbloodyw. |
| 07:51.56 | sylvanaar | if you are the one coding it goto is fine |
| 07:52.17 | Thrae | Mikk: But it's also the same case where if the original code wasn't written with classes, it's going to be a hell of a time to convert to use classes, even if the original design might be better suited for classes. |
| 07:52.32 | sylvanaar | otherwise most c programmers use the contiuous checking of a flag |
| 07:52.59 | Mikk | heh. most C programmers have had the "NEVER GOTO OMG NEVER GOTO WHATEVER YOU DO NEVER GOTO" hammered into their heads from school |
| 07:53.07 | Mikk | from professors that haven't had to write more than a hundred lines of code for a project |
| 07:54.00 | Thrae | Mikk: Errr no, I've done object-oriented design in large-scale projects (not multimillion line projects, but offshoots of one) even in C. Gotos have their uses, but they should never be used unless the code would actually suffer without it. The idea is that once you need a goto, something's wrong with your code's design. And in this case, something's wrong with the original code's design you're maintaining. |
| 07:54.15 | sylvanaar | goto can be good, but since its non-standard practice, your code is confusing to other developers |
| 07:54.24 | Thrae | Mikk: Those professors hammer it into the heads of people that write code that later requires people like you to maintain them using gotos ;) |
| 07:55.23 | Mikk | i fail to see how goto-bailout type programming is functionally different from exception handling |
| 07:55.47 | sylvanaar | that's goto's biggest problem - if one guy uses it, and another doesnt, they cant safely work on the same code |
| 07:56.09 | Mikk | heh. my experience is the opposite. |
| 07:56.10 | ckknight | Mikk: it's more visible, imho |
| 07:56.20 | sylvanaar | goto-bailout has no stack unwing |
| 07:56.40 | Mikk | i'm obviously assuming a language that doesn't have stack unwind to begin with |
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| 07:56.42 | Mikk | like C |
| 07:56.53 | ckknight | I have one thing to say: MSBTCooldowns is coded very suckily |
| 07:57.07 | sylvanaar | and in C it creates more than one exit point for the function |
| 07:57.11 | Jaxon | ckknight: and it still performs better than SCT |
| 07:57.21 | sylvanaar | with is a major no-no in c |
| 07:57.29 | mitch0 | ckk: it was admittedly coded by a beginner |
| 07:57.33 | ckknight | yea |
| 07:57.38 | Mikk | typically not tbh |
| 07:57.38 | ckknight | I'm redoing it in like 30 lines |
| 07:57.45 | ckknight | (for Parrot) |
| 07:57.53 | mitch0 | ckk: about time :) |
| 07:58.07 | mitch0 | ckk: try to hack into the water elemental freeze, too :) |
| 07:58.08 | Mikk | { result=failure; ... do lots of stuff... if(!something) { goto bail; } .. result = somethinggood; |
| 07:58.14 | Mikk | bail: clean stuff up here.... |
| 07:58.17 | Mikk | return result |
| 07:58.18 | Mikk | } |
| 07:58.19 | Mikk | tadaa |
| 07:58.33 | ckknight | mitch0: I can't, I already said I wouldn't |
| 07:58.36 | Antiarc | http://gizmodo.com/gadgets/darwin-at-work/why-you-shouldnt-smash-a-can-of-wd+40-280250.php |
| 07:58.38 | Antiarc | :O |
| 07:58.45 | mitch0 | ckk: will you accept a patch then? :) |
| 07:58.49 | ckknight | oh sure |
| 07:58.55 | mitch0 | nobody bloody accepts my patches for fixes |
| 07:59.12 | mitch0 | like the closetgnome weapon switch bug |
| 07:59.39 | Thrae | Mikk: a goto is like a function inside of a function. Where as the rest of the code works on the logical structure of func() { branch (code) branch (code) branch (call func) branch (code) return status }, etc., etc., the goto paradigm changes that so that the function itself is no longer one single logical block. |
| 08:00.50 | mitch0 | thrae: goto is very useful for cleanup on error if there are more than one thing that can go wrong. exceptions are obviously better, but C lacks them, so it's the next best thing. no point in arguing that |
| 08:00.53 | Thrae | Mikk: Where as before, the only way to break out of this functional block is to return or call another function, now you add this skipping around of gotos. |
| 08:01.17 | Mikk | You're arguing semantics |
| 08:01.17 | mitch0 | also much more readable then bloody nested ifs with cleanup duplicated all over the place |
| 08:01.45 | mitch0 | break/continue is essentially goto, yet a lot less ppl bitch about those |
| 08:01.47 | Thrae | mitch0: I'm not arguing its usefulness. I'm arguing if its optimal logical design. |
| 08:01.54 | vhaarr | mitch0: I don't think I rejected your patch, but I didn't accept it either -- perhaps you could just commit it and I'll see then. |
| 08:02.30 | Mecdemort | vhaarr: is there a way to find out if there is a bigwigs timer bar up with a specific name? |
| 08:02.36 | ckknight | I don't see how gotos are any less sane than try {} finally {} |
| 08:02.41 | vhaarr | Mecdemort: yes, but you don't want to do that |
| 08:02.44 | mitch0 | vhaarr: it's on my home comp, but the pastey could be still around. dunno how long pastey keeps them |
| 08:02.54 | vhaarr | mitch0: I'm not going to read it anyway |
| 08:03.03 | Thrae | Mikk: I already said that I think goto isn't optimal, but it's useful where it's useful...you seemed, to me, to keep claiming goto is an optimal design structure. |
| 08:03.04 | Mecdemort | vhaarr: what should i do instead to clear some timers? |
| 08:03.05 | mitch0 | eh, ok :) |
| 08:03.22 | vhaarr | Mecdemort: Just stop them unconditionally. |
| 08:03.28 | vhaarr | and if they're running, they'll stop |
| 08:03.31 | vhaarr | if not, nothing happens |
| 08:03.36 | mitch0 | thrae: it's optimal if you forget about exceptions |
| 08:03.37 | Sole | Antiarc: rofl |
| 08:03.45 | Mecdemort | ooo ok, i was afraid it might throw an error if there wasnt a bar up |
| 08:03.46 | Mikk | Anyway.. the reason I piped up in the first place is that my experience on error rate in new code as well as changed code is a heck of a lot lower when using goto-bailout for cleanup rather than nested ifs or keeping some sort of flag around and remembering to check it.. or not. That's all. |
| 08:03.56 | Mikk | I'm certainly not arguing wildly jumping around in a function |
| 08:04.07 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r44304 10Parrot/CombatEvents.lua: Parrot_CombatEvents - add Skill Cooldown Finish event, basically doing what MSBTCooldowns did. |
| 08:04.26 | Thrae | mitch0: I wouldn't say that. The logic can be made to avoid needing the gotos at all, if you have control of the entire design of the program. |
| 08:04.50 | Thrae | However, you usually don't have control over the entirity of the program, which is why gotos are needed. |
| 08:06.02 | Thrae | Frankly, I just code all my OOD in Fortran! |
| 08:06.37 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r44305 10Parrot/TriggerConditions.lua: Parrot_TriggerConditions - add Self Buff Fade and Self Debuff Fade, to complement their gains. |
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| 08:09.18 | Cardsfan | anyone use the fu_bar addon Rest_fu? |
| 08:09.57 | ckknight | I do |
| 08:10.00 | mitch0 | thrae: it can be avoided, but the resulting code will not necessarily be cleaner, no matter what |
| 08:10.35 | Cardsfan | Im having a small problem that i hope someone can help with. should we discuss in public or private? |
| 08:10.46 | Mikk | just ask here |
| 08:11.04 | Mikk | might have more luck with someone actually knowing |
| 08:11.45 | CIA-22 | 03roartindon * r44306 10Assessment/Modules/Damage.lua: Assessment: Changed default color of avoidance displays |
| 08:11.51 | Cardsfan | ok. The addon was working perfectly for me. Then i decided to remove a character from the addon because i no longer used this character. Now i cannot get the info tooltip to display at all |
| 08:12.11 | Cardsfan | ive deleted and redownloaded the addon also\ |
| 08:12.21 | Mikk | it won't be the addon itself that broke |
| 08:12.24 | Mikk | it'll be its saved data |
| 08:12.26 | Sole | have you deleted the config? |
| 08:12.42 | Sole | its in your WTF folder |
| 08:12.49 | Cardsfan | i didnt see any files in the wtf folder related to restfu |
| 08:12.55 | Cardsfan | unless i missed it |
| 08:13.00 | Mikk | then you didn't look deep enough |
| 08:13.02 | ckknight | Cardsfan: it'll be in there, FuBar_RestFu.lua |
| 08:13.04 | mitch0 | they are scattered all over it |
| 08:13.12 | mitch0 | bloody mess there, tbh |
| 08:13.15 | Cardsfan | kk gonna go check |
| 08:13.18 | Cardsfan | brb |
| 08:13.21 | Mikk | try the windows "find" function |
| 08:13.33 | Cardsfan | should be in wtf tho correct? |
| 08:13.41 | Mikk | somewhere under wtf yes |
| 08:13.44 | Sole | WTF/Account/ACCOUNT_NAME/SERVER/CHARACTER/SavedVariables/FuBar_RestFu.lua |
| 08:13.47 | Sole | theoretically |
| 08:13.53 | Cardsfan | k..thx...brb |
| 08:14.13 | Sole | zomg WAR Patcher at 47% |
| 08:14.25 | Mikk | actually i kinda doubt it uses char-specific savedvars, seeing as how it's meant to track rested state across several toons :P |
| 08:14.49 | sylvanaar | mikk i had to write this because of you http://pastey.net/71085 lol |
| 08:15.03 | Mikk | WTF/Account/ACCOUNT_NAME/SavedVariables/FuBar_RestFu.lua |
| 08:15.05 | mitch0 | was thinking about that, too ;) but I couldn't figure where the global saved vars would be, so I kept silent |
| 08:15.08 | Sole | ACCOUNT_NAME/SavedVariables/FuBar_RestFu.lua |
| 08:16.19 | mitch0 | sylvanaar: pThis and sThat notation is the most annoying thing ever invented after BASIC |
| 08:16.58 | Cardsfan | found them. sent to recycle bin...gonna load wow and see what happens...brb |
| 08:17.03 | sylvanaar | mitch0 you prefer what? |
| 08:17.07 | mitch0 | there is also function name inconsistency |
| 08:17.10 | mitch0 | so your code fails :) |
| 08:17.16 | mitch0 | I prefer plain names |
| 08:17.27 | mitch0 | without silly prefixes |
| 08:17.27 | sylvanaar | it wasnt demonstrating names |
| 08:18.17 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r44307 10Parrot/ScrollAreas.lua: Parrot_ScrollAreas - now renaming scroll areas actually works properly. |
| 08:18.57 | mitch0 | classnames start with uppercase, functions, variables start with lowercase, and I prefer mixedCasing instead of under_scores |
| 08:19.29 | mitch0 | and lately I got used to naming member variables with a trailing underscore |
| 08:19.37 | Cardsfan | That worked perfectly... thx everyone |
| 08:20.02 | Mecdemort | zomg time for my first commit |
| 08:20.13 | sylvanaar | mitch_ p is good for pointer types in C, otherwise it doesnt matter at all, its mostly about the developers you work with, not you (unless you work alone) |
| 08:20.31 | Mecdemort | now for externals, i commit my addon and then go in and add them right? |
| 08:20.46 | cryogen | "silly prefixes" are called hungarian notation |
| 08:20.54 | cryogen | something microsoft adopted and inflicted on people |
| 08:20.57 | cryogen | and have since dropped |
| 08:20.59 | cryogen | (thankfully) |
| 08:21.02 | Mikk | sylvanaar: http://pastey.net/71086 |
| 08:21.12 | Mikk | Also, interestingly, I note that you never set the "fail" flag in your code |
| 08:21.16 | mitch0 | I walk alone I walk alone... didum dudum didum I walk alone I walk alone... |
| 08:21.47 | mitch0 | cryogen: I know. but I'm hungarian, so I'm ashamed to call them that :) |
| 08:21.59 | cryogen | heh |
| 08:22.35 | sylvanaar | Mikk lol http://pastey.net/71087 |
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| 08:22.59 | sylvanaar | Mikk its just an example of the structure |
| 08:23.03 | CIA-22 | 03mecdemort * r44308 10BigWigs_WaveTimers/ (. BigWigs_WaveTimers.toc WaveTimers.lua): |
| 08:23.03 | CIA-22 | BigWigs_WaveTimers: |
| 08:23.03 | CIA-22 | -Initial import! not entirely done, need to confirm timers and yells. |
| 08:23.26 | Thrae | Hungarians spawned Barbarians that conquored much of Eastren and some of Westren Europe. Their women cut off part of their breasts to hold the shields closer to their chests, and easier time with their bows. Hungarians are shamed of, and fear, nothing! |
| 08:23.57 | Thrae | Hungarians are a force to be feared. Especially after Hungry ate Turkey. |
| 08:24.04 | AnduinLothar | what benifit is there to holding you shield closer? |
| 08:24.37 | cryogen | an arrow not slipping inside of it, i guess |
| 08:24.39 | AnduinLothar | bows i can understand |
| 08:24.41 | cryogen | or other flying debris |
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| 08:24.55 | Thrae | AnduinLothar: If you were especially well-endowed, your chest will stick way out, leaving more vital areas |
| 08:25.14 | mitch0 | thrae: what the heck are you smoking? :) |
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| 08:25.16 | AnduinLothar | open to what? downward blows from above your head? |
| 08:25.51 | mitch0 | hungarian women are well-endowed usually, indeed :) |
| 08:25.59 | AnduinLothar | didn't they have rounded shields? or where they flat |
| 08:26.06 | mitch0 | but that story is still bleeding from many wounds |
| 08:26.20 | sylvanaar | endowed with body hair |
| 08:26.21 | Thrae | AnduinLothar: Depends on the type of armour, really |
| 08:26.23 | AnduinLothar | cause engineering > cutting off body parts |
| 08:26.43 | mitch0 | sylvanaar: no, those are the southern girls (spain, greece, etc) |
| 08:26.47 | Thrae | There are all kinds of impractical types of weapons and armour used in various regions of the world |
| 08:27.00 | Thrae | sylvanaar: Hungarian women are the ones with beards, not body hair |
| 08:27.05 | AnduinLothar | so change the armor damnit, dont maul your sexiness |
| 08:27.10 | Thrae | No no wait, that's just in the olympics |
| 08:27.23 | mitch0 | but anyway, back in the "conquest" times, women stayed home gathering berries and stuff, they never went out with the raiding parties |
| 08:28.15 | Thrae | mitch0: Must have been the Viking women then. |
| 08:28.21 | mitch0 | probably :) |
| 08:28.27 | Thrae | They could kick your Hungarian women's asses. |
| 08:28.40 | mitch0 | thankfully they never visited us :) |
| 08:28.57 | mitch0 | england got most of their wrath |
| 08:29.07 | Gngsk | I spilled spot remover on my dog and now he's gone. |
| 08:29.10 | CIA-22 | 03mecdemort * r44309 10BigWigs_WaveTimers/ (. WaveTimers.lua): |
| 08:29.11 | CIA-22 | BigWigs_WaveTimers: |
| 08:29.11 | CIA-22 | -Added externals |
| 08:29.23 | mitch0 | gngsk: was his name "spot" by any chance? :) |
| 08:29.27 | Thrae | Hungry is part of the Fertile Crescent, right? Didn't it become part of the Byzantine Empire after the Dark Ages? |
| 08:29.36 | Gngsk | mitch0, yeah :( |
| 08:29.40 | Thrae | s/after/at the start of/ |
| 08:29.47 | mitch0 | it's Hungary, and I have no idea what the Fertile Crescent is :) |
| 08:30.02 | ckknight | not part of the fertile crescent |
| 08:30.06 | ckknight | too far north, afaik |
| 08:30.11 | Mecdemort | hmm why isn't it replaceing $rev$ and $date$? |
| 08:30.15 | Thrae | Sorry, that was my body telling me I am hungry, which I am |
| 08:30.23 | Mikk | because you need ": " in there |
| 08:30.29 | ckknight | Mecdemort: svn:keywords |
| 08:30.30 | mitch0 | google-earth is your friend |
| 08:30.32 | Mikk | "$Rev: $", "$Date: $" |
| 08:30.36 | Mecdemort | oh ok |
| 08:30.46 | vhaarr | $Rev$ is fine |
| 08:30.46 | mitch0 | mikk: no you don't |
| 08:30.58 | Mikk | Buh? |
| 08:31.05 | Thrae | mitch0: Google-Earth shows the formation of the world since the Dark Ages? :D |
| 08:31.06 | Mecdemort | actually, it got it |
| 08:31.10 | mitch0 | as vhaarr said, $Rev$ is enough |
| 08:31.23 | Mikk | just the case then? |
| 08:31.25 | Mecdemort | it was my bad i was looking at the server's copy instead of my local one |
| 08:31.29 | mitch0 | no, but hungary didn't just hop away a thousand miles or so :) |
| 08:31.41 | mitch0 | case is important, yes |
| 08:31.49 | mitch0 | as should be everywhere |
| 08:32.22 | Thrae | mitch0: Well, I've always wondered where Hungary lay so close to the Middle East. I do think it was part of the Byzantine Empire, being later part of the Ottoman Empire... |
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| 08:32.40 | Mecdemort | vhaarr: has anyone submitted a transcriptor output for all of hyjal? |
| 08:32.56 | Thrae | The Fertile Crescent I wasn't sure of, but Hungary's culture seemed to have been vastly effected by the Middle East as well as Germanic tribes |
| 08:33.05 | abyssichate | good morning |
| 08:33.07 | mitch0 | hungary was a lot bigger earlier, a large part of the surrounding countries were part of hungary but we managed to pick the wrong side in each WW and got screwed |
| 08:33.26 | Thrae | Yeah, that I remember =/ |
| 08:33.44 | Thrae | You need to get Hungary off its diet! |
| 08:33.44 | mitch0 | some arseholes are still bitching about trianon and getting back the lost areas, but they should be ignored most of the time. sooner or later it'll all be EU anyway |
| 08:33.49 | vhaarr | Mecdemort: you mean the trash? |
| 08:34.08 | Thrae | Ohoho, American made an English joke. |
| 08:34.21 | Thrae | mitch0: You mean Amerope! |
| 08:34.35 | Mecdemort | vhaarr: I'm trying to find out what thrall and tyrande say when they die |
| 08:34.45 | mitch0 | thrae: no, that'll be just "Earth" :) |
| 08:34.45 | Thrae | United Countries of the World, or USA for short. |
| 08:35.01 | vhaarr | Mecdemort: I have no idea |
| 08:35.09 | vhaarr | Mecdemort: maybe wowwiki knows |
| 08:35.12 | ckknight | Earth: America's planet |
| 08:35.21 | Mecdemort | vhaarr: naw i checked there :-/ |
| 08:35.58 | mitch0 | have you guys seen http://www.zeitgeistmovie.com/ ? |
| 08:36.13 | mitch0 | some stuff in it is bullshit, but there are some interesting bits to think about |
| 08:36.16 | Thrae | 2025 -- "The United States changes its name to the 'Federation of Earth' and declares all countries not within its immediate surrender are civil insurgents." |
| 08:37.56 | mitch0 | thrae: if by the ottoman empire you mean the turkish (I'm not that good at history, so I'm not sure if its that, but highly probable) then yes, they kinda conquered us for 150 years |
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| 08:38.13 | mitch0 | lot of our language was influenced by turkish |
| 08:38.54 | Xuerian | mitch0: Not going to get into it, but it's scary even if you only believe a couple things it proposes. |
| 08:39.28 | mitch0 | xuerian: well, yeah |
| 08:39.36 | Xuerian | Not scary that you do, but the state of things :p |
| 08:39.49 | omega | now this is a captcha: http://random.irb.hr/latexrender/pictures/feecbf1478a62fec76e9d5dd6c7cf2b8.gif |
| 08:40.29 | omega | http://random.irb.hr/signup.php |
| 08:40.32 | mitch0 | omega: haha :) |
| 08:40.49 | Xuerian | I'm never getting into that site. |
| 08:40.50 | Xuerian | XD |
| 08:41.03 | mitch0 | omega: would take me a while to figure that out without maple or mathematica :) |
| 08:41.10 | omega | :) |
| 08:41.10 | mitch0 | long time no real math |
| 08:41.59 | mitch0 | so, about this AceDB thing |
| 08:42.14 | mitch0 | anyone care to enlighten me about "best practices" regarding it? |
| 08:42.32 | mitch0 | basically, are these "profiles" the current hype? |
| 08:43.03 | mitch0 | or in other words, is it OK to steal for example Quartz's usage of it? :) |
| 08:44.28 | mitch0 | and another question, if I currently have #SavedVariablesPerChar: SomeDB, and I migrate to AceDB (probably a slightly different layout) and having it as a global saved var as #SavedVariables: SomeDB, will it break too many things? |
| 08:44.47 | mitch0 | or should we go back to the half-beasted vikings? :( |
| 08:45.37 | sylvanaar | meh, there's an optdep in the TabletLib toc on DewDrop |
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| 08:45.54 | sylvanaar | that is what broke FuBar |
| 08:46.07 | Megalon | omega: hrhr nice captcha :D |
| 08:46.24 | ramoz | omega: just refres - most of them end with a * 0 anyway :) |
| 08:46.31 | ramoz | refresh* |
| 08:46.47 | Megalon | Find the least real zero of the polynomial: |
| 08:46.50 | Megalon | omg :D |
| 08:47.06 | Megalon | with x^3 + 7x^2 +7x -15 |
| 08:47.14 | Megalon | nice idea for captchas |
| 08:47.42 | ckknight | gah |
| 08:47.45 | ckknight | I don't wanna figure that out |
| 08:47.58 | trh_ | Megalon: get maple :P |
| 08:48.14 | mitch0 | if it's a pr0n site, it's not exactly the best idea. if it's a discussion forum for quantum mechanics then yeah, it's good :) |
| 08:48.14 | omega | ramoz: I know :) |
| 08:49.29 | ramoz | :) |
| 08:50.10 | mitch0 | also, http://integrals.wolfram.com/index.jsp is a nice site |
| 08:51.03 | mitch0 | but now someone help me with aceadoonifying and acedbifying my addon ;) |
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| 08:52.12 | Grum | isn't acedb just a lib for storing data? :) |
| 08:53.08 | Grum | <sylvanaar> meh, there's an optdep in the TabletLib toc on DewDrop <-- gah that must have been a chase to find that |
| 08:53.26 | mitch0 | it is, but it also fiddles with the options table, and does some other weird shit in connection with AceAddon, AceEvent and probly others |
| 08:53.47 | sylvanaar | mybe not, i cant get it to fail again |
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| 08:54.31 | mitch0 | sylvanaar: have you moved the files around? (as in, moving everything out of IF/Addons, moving stuff back , etc)? |
| 08:54.31 | Grum | mitch0: what is 'it' in your sentence? 'your addon' or 'acedb'? :) |
| 08:54.40 | mitch0 | acedb |
| 08:55.02 | sylvanaar | sec |
| 08:55.03 | Grum | but does it really matter how AceDB does it? if you just use its API it should not i'd think :) |
| 08:55.35 | mitch0 | well, it handles enable/disable on its own, what I did before manually, so I kinda have to know what the frig it does |
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| 08:55.54 | sylvanaar | ok, got it to fail |
| 08:57.30 | mitch0 | oh, and I should also convert my API documentation to this autodoc style |
| 08:57.34 | mitch0 | lot of things to do... |
| 08:58.14 | Fisker- | >O |
| 08:58.16 | Fisker- | :O |
| 08:58.37 | Fisker- | in 2.3 they're gonna help out with making laggy casting better |
| 08:58.56 | mitch0 | will they implement the "1-slot-queue" ? |
| 08:59.02 | mitch0 | would be so awesome |
| 08:59.12 | mitch0 | (if done right) |
| 08:59.43 | Fisker- | dunno |
| 08:59.48 | mitch0 | they need my feedback on it before they start working :) |
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| 09:03.23 | Thelyna | does antiarc ever stop working on threat/omen? |
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| 09:03.31 | Antiarc | Yup! Going to bed now! :) |
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| 09:09.13 | Fisker- | anyone know a command line mpq utility that works with newer mpq's? |
| 09:10.17 | mitch0 | rm |
| 09:10.31 | mitch0 | works with all versions! |
| 09:10.36 | Fisker- | yeah like rm -rf / |
| 09:10.38 | Fisker- | right? |
| 09:10.53 | mitch0 | for best results, yeah. |
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| 09:13.02 | mitch0 | fisker: link for the info about the laggy casting? |
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| 09:13.53 | CIA-22 | 03mecdemort * r44311 10BigWigs_WaveTimers/ (BigWigs_WaveTimers.toc WaveTimers.lua): |
| 09:13.53 | CIA-22 | BigWigs_WaveTimers: |
| 09:13.53 | CIA-22 | -Fixed a small error in properties |
| 09:14.39 | abyssichate | Is that related to MH waves? |
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| 09:15.06 | sb | bahh |
| 09:15.19 | Mecdemort | abyssichate: yes |
| 09:15.31 | abyssichate | Mecdemort: awesome, I'll try that tonight |
| 09:15.56 | Mecdemort | abyssichate: how many bosses can you guys down? |
| 09:16.03 | abyssichate | clear the whole instance |
| 09:16.12 | sb | i really hate that behaviour.... "hey, look at the healmeter, i'm good healer!!11" - "hmm yes.. but you did not heal your primary target but the whole raid?" - "./cry - you dont like me... i want to hear positive things... blahblah" |
| 09:16.13 | sb | *sigh* |
| 09:17.09 | Mecdemort | abyssichate: could i convince you to run a logging addon while you guys clear it? |
| 09:17.20 | abyssichate | transcript? |
| 09:17.28 | Mecdemort | slightly modified, but yes |
| 09:17.41 | abyssichate | sure, send it right away |
| 09:21.32 | Huenor | hmm, I was wondering. What do you all think of Mazzle considering charging for his compilation? There is alot of Ace stuff in that |
| 09:22.30 | ckknight | I've been thinking about lodging a complaint |
| 09:22.47 | Mecdemort | abyssichate: how do you want i should send it? |
| 09:23.22 | mitch0 | actually, if he provides the "source" for all the GPL addons for free, he should be OK (legally) |
| 09:23.57 | mitch0 | (and of course all the other licenses out there should be adhered to) |
| 09:24.10 | mitch0 | my addon is PD, so he can do whatever he likes with it |
| 09:24.22 | mitch0 | (not that I think it's in his compilation) |
| 09:25.49 | Huenor | the thread about it at wowui should be interesting to watch over the next couple days :P. Already there is 1 disgruntled author posting in it. |
| 09:25.53 | krka | Huenor: it should be legal, but it's also possible due to licensing, that it's legal to distribute his addons in other ways too |
| 09:25.56 | krka | i.e. free |
| 09:26.10 | krka | if ace is gpl and he uses ace, for instance |
| 09:26.12 | Mikk | If you've GPLed your source, you're pwnd indefinitely |
| 09:26.27 | Mikk | Can't do a thing about someone using your stuff. |
| 09:26.27 | krka | Mikk: not really, just if you're using someone _elses_ gpled source |
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| 09:26.48 | krka | you can change license for your own stuff (for new releases) |
| 09:27.08 | Huenor | hmmm, gnu is the one where you can only use the program for non profit purposes, right? like the doom source code? |
| 09:27.11 | cryogen | there is nothing in the gpl that says it has to be Free(as in beer) |
| 09:27.18 | mitch0 | no |
| 09:27.18 | Mikk | Huenor: that's a misunderstanding |
| 09:27.35 | cryogen | the gpl is Free(as in speech) only |
| 09:27.45 | Arrowmaster | you may be able to get the code for free but that doesnt mean you have any right to use it |
| 09:27.54 | Mikk | Huenor: GNU GPL states that you always have to provide the source code. And if you make changes to it, that sourcecode also has to available under GNU GPL for free. |
| 09:28.08 | Mikk | You can try to sell it as much as you like |
| 09:28.16 | Mikk | But if someone requests the source code, you have to hand it out |
| 09:28.28 | cryogen | providing you dont claim it as your own, of course |
| 09:28.40 | Huenor | oh i see |
| 09:28.54 | Huenor | so it wouldnt be viable for a commercial product |
| 09:29.03 | Huenor | as you could just compile your own |
| 09:29.14 | cryogen | it's not intended to be |
| 09:29.42 | Arrowmaster | no its perfectly viable for commercial products |
| 09:29.45 | cryogen | it's intended to be a way to promote open source software development and protect the author(s) from evil corporations who might steal it and use it in their commercial products |
| 09:30.03 | cryogen | it encourages you to download it and have a play around with it |
| 09:30.07 | krka | i bet many addons dont even have a license applied, so general copyright is in effect |
| 09:30.14 | Arrowmaster | theres linksys routers using gpl code in them, tivos too |
| 09:30.23 | [Ammo] | it's the whole 'feel' of the thing |
| 09:30.28 | [Ammo] | someone making money of your back |
| 09:30.34 | krka | so charging for a compilation might get some of those authors upset, and suiing |
| 09:30.53 | cryogen | if an author has licensed it gpl, theres nothing they can do about it |
| 09:30.55 | krka | Arrowmaster: yeah, i think it makes sense for hardware |
| 09:31.00 | cryogen | gpl doesnt withhold distribution rights |
| 09:31.37 | cryogen | people being stupid enough to spend money on that stuff is another matter.. |
| 09:31.43 | Arrowmaster | like i said earlyer theres a difference in having the right to see the code and the right to do anything with the code too |
| 09:32.09 | cryogen | Arrowmaster: the gpl basically gives you both |
| 09:32.23 | cryogen | Arrowmaster: if you gpl something, i can take it, change the name and call it my own, providing i leave your copyright in place |
| 09:32.40 | abyssichate | Mecdemort: through DCC |
| 09:32.41 | cryogen | then im free to do with that what the hell i like |
| 09:33.00 | Mikk | you're even free to do whatever the hell you like with it under the original name :P |
| 09:33.08 | cryogen | Mikk: to an extent |
| 09:33.19 | cryogen | i have much more control if i call it my own :) |
| 09:33.30 | Mikk | hrm? |
| 09:33.42 | Arrowmaster | not really |
| 09:33.45 | cryogen | Mikk: (the original author can withdraw the license or apply a different version of it) |
| 09:33.56 | cryogen | depends how exactly it's worded |
| 09:34.00 | [Ammo] | then updates for his pack is hard :p |
| 09:34.05 | [Ammo] | revoke all licenses |
| 09:34.11 | Mikk | you can't withdraw gpl from something you've released |
| 09:34.12 | [Ammo] | so he can use the last gpl'd version only |
| 09:34.14 | cryogen | some things use the "or any later" clause |
| 09:34.25 | [Ammo] | hmm or not? |
| 09:34.29 | Mecdemort | abyssichate: ok coming right up |
| 09:34.35 | cryogen | [Ammo]: not unless gplv3 comes out giving you that right |
| 09:34.41 | Arrowmaster | if your changing the name its basicly forking and you have to follow the parts of the original license about forking |
| 09:34.41 | Mikk | not bloody likely |
| 09:34.43 | cryogen | (which it wont, just a (bad) example) |
| 09:35.01 | Mikk | Anyway, I detest GPL :P |
| 09:35.05 | [Ammo] | shrug |
| 09:35.23 | cryogen | gpl is not the license to use if you like taking credit for things and dont want other people to ever pick ti apart and use it |
| 09:35.27 | cryogen | you want something like bsd for that |
| 09:36.03 | Mikk | -d |
| 09:36.33 | cryogen | gpl is about getting your code out in the community, not for making personal gain |
| 09:36.43 | Arrowmaster | im an asshole so if i ever created something large and popular i would probably use some license that let me revoke others rights to use it |
| 09:37.09 | cryogen | it's all a bit of a grey area anyway |
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| 09:37.20 | cryogen | since you're providing an "addon" to a game that someone else owns |
| 09:37.24 | Mecdemort_ | weird, what happened |
| 09:37.25 | Mikk | PD is even more about getting your stuff used |
| 09:37.35 | cryogen | so in theory blizzard could just ban your "licensed" addon if they wanted to |
| 09:37.36 | Mikk | Though it might keep GPL zealots from ever hacking on it |
| 09:37.37 | cryogen | and it becomes useless |
| 09:37.56 | Mikk | Since (OH NOES!) someone could copy it and make money off of it |
| 09:37.57 | Mikk | And liek |
| 09:38.02 | Mikk | That's so bad. |
| 09:38.13 | Mikk | Closet commies the bunch of em |
| 09:38.16 | Arrowmaster | if its PD then just fork it and gpl the fork |
| 09:38.27 | Huenor | well, no author can add user authentication can they, so i would only take one person to leak a pay build |
| 09:38.39 | Huenor | i mean it |
| 09:38.51 | cryogen | it's not a particularly viable way to make a serious income, no |
| 09:39.01 | cryogen | but there are LOTS of wowkids with too much money out there |
| 09:39.06 | cryogen | so it might make a few bucks here and there |
| 09:39.27 | cryogen | (just look at the people who buy characters and gold) |
| 09:39.29 | Huenor | ya, like the ppl who make the levelling guides |
| 09:41.11 | [Ammo] | legal technicalities aside, he ain't getting my addons for that |
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| 09:45.44 | Huenor | you make bigwigs, right? that addon is so great |
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| 09:47.48 | [Ammo] | Huenor: amongst things yes |
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| 09:55.56 | sb | ckknight: mhhhm - that overheal filter (dont show heals with 0 hp healed) - it should be possible to enable/disable it - if i'm main-tank healer i dont care if its 0 (3000) - but i need to know if my spell was cast or interrupted somehow (maybe silence effect? out of range?) |
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| 09:56.46 | ckknight | why are you overhealing so much? |
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| 09:56.57 | Huenor | hehe |
| 09:57.06 | [Ammo] | it happens when you're spammng heals on an MT that can get a shitton of damage |
| 09:57.14 | [Ammo] | overhealing is quite common |
| 09:57.16 | [Ammo] | in raiding |
| 09:57.16 | Huenor | amen |
| 09:58.05 | [Ammo] | sometimes its better to have a bit of overheal than cancelling a heal that should have landed |
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| 09:58.39 | sb | yup |
| 09:59.14 | [Ammo] | specially on fights with erratic spike damage |
| 09:59.22 | [Ammo] | instead of steady incoming |
| 09:59.33 | Jaxon | Dinobot has the coolest transformation. |
| 09:59.55 | sb | e.g. gruul last 10-20% |
| 10:00.02 | Huenor | ya sometimes your tank will go from full to dead in less time than it takes to cast 1 big heal, so you have to start casting when they are still full |
| 10:00.20 | sb | (when your OT is already dead :p) |
| 10:02.55 | Mikk | You have OTs dying on gruul? o.O |
| 10:03.05 | sb | yup... yesterday *sigh* |
| 10:03.07 | abbat_w | Guys, i need help ;) |
| 10:03.11 | Mikk | If anything we tend to have the MT go flat first and the OT take over. |
| 10:03.20 | Mikk | (With rogues going flat at a rate of approximately one every 10s :P ) |
| 10:03.22 | abbat_w | Guys, tonight I finish my first addon which track time to live of Water Elemental. Addon show bar with 45 sec timer. In my addon I track two events. First, UNIT_SPELLCAST_SUCCEDED for detect summon pet and UNIT_PET for detect die/desummon. If I summon pet, UNIT_SPELLCAST_SUCCEDED fired and I detect successful summon. |
| 10:03.27 | sb | well... he didnt move out of the cave in |
| 10:03.30 | abbat_w | But after UNIT_SPELLCAST_SUCCEDED event UNIT_PET also fired and sometimes UnitExists(“pet”) return false and addon detect what pet didn’t exist. I use GetTime() in both events and if time difference between this two events smaller when 100 I don’t hide timer bar. It is correct way or I should use something another? |
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| 10:03.51 | sb | at ~10 grows, so not that nice to heal |
| 10:03.58 | Mecdemort | hokay time for bed, later all |
| 10:04.34 | sb | ckknight: are you going to implement parrot-like config export/import? |
| 10:04.39 | sb | errr |
| 10:04.41 | sb | pitbull |
| 10:04.45 | abbat_w | I think UNIT_PET fired before pet actually exists |
| 10:05.40 | abbat_w | ckknight, also i try Parrot tonigth ;) |
| 10:05.53 | abbat_w | Nice looking ;) |
| 10:06.28 | abbat_w | Hope Grayhoff modify Proximo to support Parrot. WitchHunt already have support ;) |
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| 10:07.43 | ckknight | what's Proximo do? |
| 10:07.57 | CIA-22 | 03rophy * r44312 10SimpleCombatLog/locales/localization-zhCN.lua: SimpleCombatLog: zhCN update. |
| 10:08.03 | syeren | Arena Target Frames ckknight :p |
| 10:08.10 | syeren | http://fabrikate.org/wow/proximo.jpg |
| 10:08.11 | abbat_w | yep |
| 10:08.41 | abbat_w | Proximo make announce with MSBT of discovered players at arena |
| 10:08.59 | [Ammo] | ckknight: any chance of supporting some kind of event that we can send with an addon id for parrot |
| 10:09.09 | [Ammo] | so people can send those custom events to whatever scrollarea they want |
| 10:09.19 | syeren | [Ammo], ckknight taught me how to change the Scroll area :p |
| 10:09.20 | syeren | Pretty easy :P |
| 10:09.37 | [Ammo] | saves a lot of implementation in addons wanting to route messages to parrot |
| 10:09.48 | ckknight | [Ammo]: Parrot:ShowMessage("Text", "Scroll area") |
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| 10:09.54 | ckknight | that simple |
| 10:09.58 | [Ammo] | ckknight: you don't understand |
| 10:10.03 | ckknight | no? |
| 10:10.05 | [Ammo] | people want the messages in a diff scrollarea |
| 10:10.18 | [Ammo] | and right now every addon supporting parrot will have to figure out what scrollareas there are and add options |
| 10:10.21 | abbat_w | ckknight, are focus frame in PitBull have fixed frame name? |
| 10:10.30 | ckknight | [Ammo]: Parrot:GetScrollAreaValidate() |
| 10:10.35 | [Ammo] | why not self:TriggerEvent( "Parrot_Message", "WitchHunt", "Text", "Color") |
| 10:10.36 | ckknight | tada, AceOptions support |
| 10:10.48 | [Ammo] | and then people can select the WitchHunt messages in parrot |
| 10:10.49 | ckknight | no, I don't want to force AceEvent usage |
| 10:11.03 | abbat_w | I ask because i want to modify addon and attach pet timer to focus frame or maybe to pet frame |
| 10:11.05 | ckknight | there'd need to be some registration process for that |
| 10:11.20 | ckknight | but I do plan to add the ability for third parties to properly do stuff, I mean, it's very extensible now |
| 10:11.22 | [Ammo] | I'm ok with registering my addon with parrot |
| 10:11.28 | mitch0 | abbat: why on earth would you attach it to focus frame? |
| 10:11.35 | ckknight | what WitchHunt probably should do is register a combat event, it'd be the cleanest way. |
| 10:11.35 | [Ammo] | I just don't want to implement all the options |
| 10:11.45 | abbat_w | mitch0, coz my focus frame just before my eyes ;) |
| 10:11.54 | abbat_w | and i never miss timer |
| 10:12.12 | mitch0 | erm, but you always have a focus target? |
| 10:12.19 | abbat_w | at arena? sure |
| 10:12.33 | mitch0 | arena ~= everything |
| 10:12.36 | abbat_w | i always track 2 targets at arena |
| 10:12.37 | [Ammo] | oh and ckknight any way I can get 'enemy' only messages with a parser-3.0 filter? |
| 10:12.50 | [Ammo] | with parser-1.1 I can jsut register for the events that are enemy only |
| 10:12.53 | abbat_w | mitch0, 99% of time i run pvp/arenas |
| 10:13.01 | [Ammo] | couldn't find a filter option for parser-3.0 |
| 10:13.04 | ckknight | [Ammo]: you can run a match against event |
| 10:13.10 | [Ammo] | ah |
| 10:13.12 | ckknight | event_match = "ENEMY" |
| 10:13.21 | ckknight | Parrot:RegisterCombatEvent { category = "Notification", name = "WitchHunt", localName = "WitchHunt", color = "ffffff" } |
| 10:13.40 | abbat_w | mitch0, anyway i think i should rewrite timer for show numeric timer at PitBull pet frame |
| 10:13.46 | [Ammo] | event_match = "CHAT_MSG_COMBAT_HOSTILE_DEATH" for instance? |
| 10:13.53 | abbat_w | I found good example but for agUF. agUF_sheeper |
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| 10:14.00 | ckknight | event = "CHAT_MSG_COMBAT_HOSTILE_DEATH" |
| 10:14.05 | ckknight | if it's straight equality |
| 10:14.09 | [Ammo] | okiedokie |
| 10:14.19 | syeren | Ammo, was you basically asking for Parrot to have a feature where it was able to list all it's available scroll areas, and then have addons be able to call that feature in order to decide which scroll area it puts them in :P? |
| 10:14.29 | [Ammo] | syeren: no |
| 10:14.32 | syeren | Oki :p |
| 10:14.36 | mitch0 | you could add a [PetTimer] tag to DogTag |
| 10:14.37 | syeren | Just thinking :p |
| 10:14.45 | CIA-22 | 03fin * r44313 10SharedMedia/INSTRUCTIONS for MyMedia.txt: |
| 10:14.45 | CIA-22 | SharedMedia - MyMedia Instructions |
| 10:14.45 | CIA-22 | - converted into format which should allow users to just copy the readme file itself as a new MyMedia.lua |
| 10:14.45 | CIA-22 | - updated destructions to reflect this |
| 10:14.45 | CIA-22 | - added couple of minor extra notes |
| 10:14.49 | [Ammo] | I was asking for a way to send an event or thing to parrot, and let the user decided from the parrot menu where it goes |
| 10:15.04 | syeren | Ah :) |
| 10:15.27 | ckknight | and I told you how by registering a combat event |
| 10:15.40 | ckknight | you register the event, and then trigger that event |
| 10:15.41 | [Ammo] | I know |
| 10:15.46 | [Ammo] | can I change the color for it on the fly? |
| 10:15.51 | [Ammo] | or do I colorize my message |
| 10:16.06 | ckknight | user chooses color, you can specify the default color, though |
| 10:16.16 | ckknight | if you have multiple different kinds of messages, you should have multiple events |
| 10:16.25 | [Ammo] | I have multiple different messages yeah |
| 10:16.34 | ckknight | I think I'll make it so category can be arbitrary |
| 10:16.39 | ckknight | so category = "WitchHunt" |
| 10:16.54 | sag_ich_nicht | ckknight code faster |
| 10:16.57 | ckknight | NO U |
| 10:17.03 | ckknight | I'm watching Burn Notice |
| 10:17.43 | sag_ich_nicht | no srsly i played around with SCT again yesterday just to notice how much it sucks again |
| 10:17.43 | sag_ich_nicht | >< |
| 10:17.55 | Fisker- | NO ME |
| 10:18.52 | Matrix110 | SCT has Rainbow animation that already makes it superior! |
| 10:19.01 | abbat_w | ckknight, do you plan to add another animations to Parrot? |
| 10:19.05 | sag_ich_nicht | ckknight add rainbow animation. |
| 10:19.09 | abbat_w | ahah ;) |
| 10:19.16 | ckknight | you do it |
| 10:19.17 | sag_ich_nicht | actually no |
| 10:19.21 | sag_ich_nicht | better idea |
| 10:19.42 | sag_ich_nicht | someone upgrade sharedmedialib to allow sharing of animations between adons |
| 10:19.43 | sag_ich_nicht | *addons |
| 10:19.44 | sag_ich_nicht | :P |
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| 10:19.53 | sag_ich_nicht | (yeah i know, now i'm going crazy) |
| 10:20.04 | abbat_w | code sharing? |
| 10:20.14 | abbat_w | Ammo! :-* |
| 10:20.27 | [Ammo] | it needs a rewrite |
| 10:20.31 | abbat_w | Maybe you add filters? :) |
| 10:20.35 | [Ammo] | maybe |
| 10:20.41 | abbat_w | oh |
| 10:20.56 | cryogen | abbat_w: can your addon be adapted easily to work with other pets?:) |
| 10:21.06 | mitch0 | erm is accessing a file-scope local faster than accessing self.something? |
| 10:21.40 | abbat_w | cryogen, it support 2 pets. Shadowfiend and Water Elemental ;) |
| 10:21.43 | mitch0 | I mean, is it so much faster that I should keep it in mind? |
| 10:21.55 | cryogen | abbat_w: nice, shadowfiend is the one i want |
| 10:22.03 | cryogen | abbat_w: however! can it cope with the T4 set bonus? :D |
| 10:22.15 | abbat_w | cryogen, but i don't make any user menu, all configuration setting only in source code now ;) |
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| 10:22.41 | abbat_w | it's my first attempt and i like it ;) |
| 10:22.45 | CIA-22 | 03ammo * r44314 10WitchHunt/WitchHunt.lua: WitchHunt: oops, remove parser-3.0 mixin that should not have been in yet |
| 10:22.47 | sag_ich_nicht | [12:19] <abbat_w> code sharing? <--no, make a default animation code that takes fars :P |
| 10:22.52 | Fisker- | hai? |
| 10:22.57 | sag_ich_nicht | s/fars/vars |
| 10:23.03 | sag_ich_nicht | argh, trailing slash forgotten |
| 10:23.05 | sag_ich_nicht | :( |
| 10:24.31 | abbat_w | And btw i found ace is very comfortable |
| 10:24.38 | Fisker- | die |
| 10:24.42 | abbat_w | Especially AceEvents, CandyBar |
| 10:24.43 | Fin | your mum |
| 10:24.48 | Fisker- | your mother |
| 10:24.56 | Fisker- | NO U |
| 10:25.01 | CIA-22 | 03ammo * r44315 10SRA/SRA.lua: SRA: Singing Rum Addict |
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| 10:27.26 | abbat_w | Guys, which way i should use to make numeric timer for track pet? Make invisible frame and setup hook OnUpdate()? |
| 10:27.38 | abbat_w | Or another way exists? |
| 10:28.11 | Bam__ | you can use AceEvent:ScheduleEvent() or AceEventScheduleRepeatingEvent() |
| 10:29.06 | abbat_w | I want to make numeric timer like CandyBar have. From 45 sec to 10 sec with 1 sec step and from 10 to 0 with 0.1 sec step |
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| 10:29.21 | mitch0 | (btw, NECB's pet timer bar is kinda good) |
| 10:29.46 | abbat_w | Bam, should i use fake frame for receive frames? |
| 10:30.07 | Bam__ | if you don't use AceEvent, then probably yes |
| 10:30.10 | mitch0 | why don't you use the frame you display the timer in? |
| 10:30.26 | abbat_w | mitch0, i don't use necb. and don't plan to use it. i have antagonist and i like it |
| 10:30.55 | Bam__ | or you can reuse an existing frame as mitch0 said |
| 10:31.22 | Mikk | (But keep in mind that your timerframe won't be receiving OnUpdates if it's hidden) |
| 10:31.27 | Mikk | (Which often is what you want tho) |
| 10:31.28 | abbat_w | mitch0, i look at agUF_sheeper (addon attach timer bar to agUF_focus). this addon uses secure hooks. i know nothing about secure stuff |
| 10:31.38 | Mikk | Btw why don't you just use CandyBar? o.O |
| 10:32.27 | abbat_w | Mikk, i use. Now my addon make sweet CandyBar. But i have no space on my screen to put it ;) And i think pet frame best place for only numeric timer |
| 10:32.28 | abbat_w | ;) |
| 10:32.51 | Mikk | Tell the candybar to be 13 pixels high and 30 pixels wide? =) |
| 10:33.06 | abbat_w | I lost timer then ;) |
| 10:33.07 | sag_ich_nicht | god |
| 10:33.14 | sag_ich_nicht | i hate "goto considered harmful" |
| 10:33.17 | sag_ich_nicht | it's so retarded >< |
| 10:33.37 | abbat_w | I'll try make addon only for testing but now i want to make something good and usefull for me ;) |
| 10:34.19 | sag_ich_nicht | everytime i see someone go "don't use goto!!!11" i ask them if exiting a nested loop is easier and more readable and more compilable if they make even more nests to create the exit conditions or just use goto |
| 10:34.19 | mitch0 | not the goto theme again. |
| 10:34.20 | sag_ich_nicht | >.> |
| 10:34.29 | sag_ich_nicht | erm |
| 10:34.35 | abbat_w | ;) |
| 10:34.37 | sag_ich_nicht | -more compilable +faster to compile |
| 10:34.39 | sag_ich_nicht | >< |
| 10:34.48 | Bam__ | it's a heck of a lot more readable if you use return :P |
| 10:34.49 | abbat_w | holy war. 'goto' vs 'nogoto' ;) |
| 10:34.50 | mitch0 | we've been thru it today already |
| 10:34.54 | Mikk | mitch0 and I have already decided that all the "NO GOTO" zealots lose at life :P |
| 10:35.06 | mitch0 | :) |
| 10:35.21 | abbat_w | looks like 'c++' vs 'pascal' 5-10 years ago ;) |
| 10:35.35 | Bam__ | I don't even know if Lua has goto.. does it? |
| 10:35.42 | Mikk | doesn't. the bastards. |
| 10:35.46 | mitch0 | pascal never was a real programming language :P |
| 10:35.52 | Bam__ | yay :P |
| 10:36.00 | mitch0 | lua doesn't even have continue |
| 10:36.08 | abbat_w | mitch0, pfff... Don't told me please what c++ was ;) |
| 10:36.09 | mitch0 | not even sure about break |
| 10:36.09 | Mikk | and i want to choke them for it |
| 10:36.16 | Mikk | break it has |
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| 10:36.29 | Mikk | ,.... i think |
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| 10:36.33 | Mikk | yeah it does |
| 10:36.36 | Bam__ | considering it has break, it ought to have continue too |
| 10:36.37 | Mikk | now you got me all unsure :P |
| 10:36.49 | mitch0 | I was mighty pissed bout it not having continue the other day |
| 10:37.02 | Mikk | Bam__: apparently adding a "continue" statement is like 5 lines of code |
| 10:37.13 | Mikk | I've seen several posts about it |
| 10:37.31 | Bam__ | 5 lines too much apparently :D |
| 10:37.41 | Mikk | Bloody weird if you ask me |
| 10:37.56 | nevcairiel | continue as in skip current loop execution and go to next? |
| 10:38.04 | nevcairiel | er skip current iteration |
| 10:38.05 | nevcairiel | i mean |
| 10:38.06 | Mikk | yeah |
| 10:38.10 | Bam__ | well don't ask too much or they will just remove break too :P |
| 10:38.36 | Mikk | and remove the possibility to "return" out of loops ftw |
| 10:38.39 | nevcairiel | guess continue would be a weird construct of ifs |
| 10:38.57 | Bam__ | continue and break fit well together |
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| 10:39.09 | Mikk | yeah, the lack of continue has caused some REALLY hairy pieces of nested ifs for me in the past |
| 10:39.25 | mitch0 | hrmp. ssh tunnel broke |
| 10:39.30 | mitch0 | what did I miss? |
| 10:39.37 | Mikk | when you're on your third "damn, i want a continue here" in the same loop the indent level approaches silly dimensions |
| 10:39.56 | Bam__ | use recursion :P |
| 10:40.16 | Bam__ | ouch |
| 10:40.48 | mitch0 | mikk: the nogoto zealots have a specail brand that hate continue and if (condition) return, too :) |
| 10:40.58 | Mikk | I break out in hives when I see unmotivated recursion |
| 10:41.11 | Mikk | I think it's related to the MetaLanguage class I had forced on me in uni |
| 10:41.20 | Mikk | (ML has no iterators. Only recursion.) |
| 10:41.24 | mitch0 | probly they got temporary hold of LUA devel that's why the lack of continue |
| 10:42.04 | Bam__ | well a language with only one paradigm tends to be cumbersome to use |
| 10:42.07 | Mikk | OMG IT CAN'T BE EXPRESSED AS A MATHEMATICAL FORMULA! IT'S BROKEN! |
| 10:42.29 | Mikk | I'd like to force BrainFuck on that professor |
| 10:42.47 | Bam__ | I'm a big recursion fan... but I also believe I know when not to use recursion :P |
| 10:43.29 | abbat_w | depends on recursion depth |
| 10:43.30 | mitch0 | recursion is teh sex to create the algorithm. then it should be converted to a plain cycle (most of the time it's possible) |
| 10:43.48 | Bam__ | no way |
| 10:44.16 | Mikk | function even(0) return true end |
| 10:44.16 | Mikk | function even(1) return false end |
| 10:44.16 | Mikk | function even(n) return even(n-2) end |
| 10:44.33 | Mikk | yes, folks, this is the stuff that the ML geeks masturbate to |
| 10:44.40 | mitch0 | har har |
| 10:44.42 | Bam__ | hehe |
| 10:44.43 | Mikk | notice how it breaks utterly for negative numbers |
| 10:44.47 | Mikk | they don't give a shit |
| 10:44.56 | CIA-22 | 03zerofire * r44316 10cyCircled/core.lua: |
| 10:44.56 | CIA-22 | cyCircled: |
| 10:44.56 | CIA-22 | - fix frame level in line 242 of core.lua |
| 10:44.56 | Fritti | *grin* |
| 10:44.58 | Fin | I really wish lua had a continue |
| 10:45.03 | Fritti | that's ML as in OCAML ? |
| 10:45.07 | sag_ich_nicht | LOL |
| 10:45.28 | sag_ich_nicht | so THAT really DID cause the bug |
| 10:45.43 | nevcairiel | i told you it wasnt bt3 |
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| 10:45.52 | mitch0 | but I guess the ML compiler/interpreter unwinds that for them under the hood |
| 10:45.53 | Mikk | Fritti: doubt it |
| 10:46.06 | sag_ich_nicht | nevcairiel: i told you i know, since it went away when i disabled cycircled |
| 10:46.10 | Mikk | mitch0: orly? you think? hell no, it'll recurse wildly |
| 10:46.11 | mitch0 | someone is playing around with our proxy/firewall, I guess |
| 10:46.26 | sag_ich_nicht | mitch0 or you forgot to enable keep alive |
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| 10:46.27 | sag_ich_nicht | :P |
| 10:46.28 | Mikk | so if you'd make a "loop" 10000 steps -> *CRASH* out of stackspace |
| 10:47.14 | mitch0 | sag: my keepalive is while true; do date; sleep 60; done |
| 10:47.19 | mitch0 | :) |
| 10:47.45 | CIA-22 | 03bam * r44317 10ItemPrice-1.0/ItemPrice-1.0/ItemPrice-1.0.lua: |
| 10:47.45 | CIA-22 | ItemPrice-1.0: |
| 10:47.45 | CIA-22 | - Prices are now mined from Blizzard's armory (YAY!) |
| 10:47.51 | Mikk | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ML_(programming_language) |
| 10:47.55 | sag_ich_nicht | mitch0: you know ssh has it's own keep alive function, right? |
| 10:48.08 | mitch0 | sorta, but I don't trust it :) |
| 10:48.15 | sag_ich_nicht | you should enable it anyway tho :P |
| 10:49.16 | mitch0 | it won't do shit if they cut off the route either |
| 10:49.21 | Mikk | Fritti: my bad. CAML _IS_ a member of the ML family |
| 10:49.39 | Fritti | I suspected so the moment you talked about 'zealots' ;-) |
| 10:49.53 | Fin | actually no I don't |
| 10:49.53 | Fin | there is no passion |
| 10:49.58 | Fritti | (sorry, had a run in here at the university with lots of the zealots, now I need to support that idiotic language) |
| 10:49.58 | nevcairiel | i do for(;;) { } |
| 10:49.59 | nevcairiel | :P |
| 10:50.07 | Fin | sag_ich_nicht: it doesn't work |
| 10:50.12 | Bam__ | gotta laugh a bit everytime you see the path to a library: ItemPrice-1.0/ItemPrice1.0/ItemPrice-1.0.lua :P |
| 10:50.20 | Bam__ | somehow it seems a bit redundant :P |
| 10:50.33 | Fritti | fortunately support = 'make sure the latets ocaml is installed on our linux machines' but still, it's more than I want to have to do with that |
| 10:50.38 | Fritti | latest* |
| 10:50.46 | abbat_w | hehe |
| 10:50.47 | Pheredhel | hmm, Fritti: i learned it at university too, but i don'T use it anymore |
| 10:50.55 | Fin | nevcairiel: I do for (;ever;) { } to try and be clever |
| 10:51.08 | abbat_w | i stole idea for timer from mitch0 rangecheck :) |
| 10:51.19 | [dRaCo] | been using haskell for a while... gotta admit that it's quite useful sometimes |
| 10:51.28 | mitch0 | I stole it frome somewhere else, too :) |
| 10:51.29 | Fritti | with the emphasis on 'sometimes' |
| 10:51.42 | Bam__ | Ruby FTW :P |
| 10:51.49 | mitch0 | doh |
| 10:52.06 | [dRaCo] | sure, as soon as it comes to usability/gui, a "normal" language is way better |
| 10:52.06 | mitch0 | next time you'll come up with praising python |
| 10:52.06 | Bam__ | though I really do want to get my hands on Haskell too... I keep hearing good things about it |
| 10:52.24 | abbat_w | mitch0, i mean mechanics for display numerics in worldframe ;) |
| 10:52.26 | sag_ich_nicht | [12:50] <Fin> sag_ich_nicht: it doesn't work <--huh? |
| 10:52.28 | Bam__ | no I will NEVER praise Python... I value syntax too much :P |
| 10:52.31 | mitch0 | ah |
| 10:52.39 | mitch0 | I stole that too :) |
| 10:52.40 | Bam__ | bloody whitespace lovers :D |
| 10:52.54 | Fin | sag_ich_nicht: ssh's keepalive |
| 10:53.01 | sag_ich_nicht | it kind of does |
| 10:53.05 | Fin | it's shit |
| 10:53.07 | sag_ich_nicht | works for me at least >.> |
| 10:53.15 | sag_ich_nicht | and there is no reason to not enable it |
| 10:53.15 | sag_ich_nicht | >.> |
| 10:53.25 | Fin | it doesn't work for me in about 70% of the situations I've tried to use it |
| 10:53.38 | mitch0 | well, if you actually want your stray sessions to be close, it's not very useful :) |
| 10:53.52 | mitch0 | s,close,&d, |
| 10:54.04 | Fin | I want my sessions to stay alive! ah - ah - ah - ah |
| 10:54.22 | Fin | OK, I think I might be able to qualify that as not working through NAT |
| 10:54.32 | Fin | but that's still shit in my experience |
| 10:54.33 | mitch0 | hm. I can't steal all the stuff blindly from quartz. some if it looks whacky |
| 10:54.47 | Mikk | poor you :P |
| 10:54.50 | abbat_w | btw, someone understand 'size of area' in Parrot? What depends on 'size'? |
| 10:55.05 | abbat_w | I play with it but don't see what something was changed |
| 10:55.07 | ckknight_ | how big the animations stretch |
| 10:55.17 | Mikk | fuck's sake.. i need to get a new keyboard... all the worn-off markings don't work very well for me when i'm tired |
| 10:55.20 | abbat_w | it's vertical size of area? |
| 10:55.36 | mitch0 | mikk: have you ever had a happy-hacking keyboard? |
| 10:55.47 | JoshBorke | <3 my happy hacker |
| 10:56.04 | Mikk | oooh |
| 10:56.05 | abbat_w | ah, it's hSize of area |
| 10:56.23 | mitch0 | mine is shelved atm. I used it for my vt510 but a lighning storm killed it (the terminal, not the kb) |
| 10:57.46 | mitch0 | what's the syntax in aceoptionstable if I want the given execute to be available only from aceconsole? |
| 10:57.53 | Mikk | meh. i love the idea of it, but i don't think i could get used to something that doesn't have the 6 key cluster to the right |
| 10:58.03 | Mikk | i use home/end/pgup/pgdn way too much |
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| 10:58.16 | mitch0 | mikk: bad habit |
| 10:58.19 | abbat_w | ckknight, if size > 500 area looks like elipse stretched across horizontal and if size < 200 area stretched across vertical? (numbers is onlt examples) |
| 10:58.27 | Mikk | mitch0: guiHidden = false iirc |
| 10:58.28 | sag_ich_nicht | ckknight: is there an option in parrot yet for showing the damage others do to a mob at the mob using the nameplates? :P |
| 10:58.33 | Mikk | err guiHidden = true |
| 10:58.36 | abbat_w | ellipse if i use parabola animation |
| 10:58.40 | ckknight | no, sag_ich_nicht |
| 10:58.44 | sag_ich_nicht | :( |
| 10:59.01 | sag_ich_nicht | well, i'll be waiting :) |
| 10:59.04 | ckknight | abbat_w: both the x and the y are determined by size |
| 10:59.09 | mitch0 | sag: that sounds like the spammiest feature ever |
| 10:59.15 | ckknight | sag_ich_nicht: I don't see a personal need for it |
| 10:59.45 | abbat_w | ckknight, area always square? |
| 10:59.48 | mitch0 | maybe even less usless than pitbull's combattext :) |
| 10:59.49 | sag_ich_nicht | ckknight: customizability ftw. :P |
| 10:59.54 | Mikk | sounds like you'd just kill performance and have your screen filled with numbers |
| 11:00.03 | CIA-22 | 03sylvanaar * r44318 10Prat/extras/PratWaterfall.lua: Prat: Cleanup PratWaterfall so it doesnt load Waterfall by itself |
| 11:00.05 | sag_ich_nicht | Mikk: pfffffff |
| 11:00.12 | mitch0 | s,less,more, |
| 11:00.13 | ckknight | customizeability without reason is just insane |
| 11:00.20 | sag_ich_nicht | ckknight: well you are insane |
| 11:00.20 | abbat_w | yep |
| 11:00.23 | sag_ich_nicht | i don't see the problem |
| 11:00.24 | sag_ich_nicht | :) |
| 11:00.25 | Mikk | you already have your own damage and your pet's damage |
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| 11:00.30 | ckknight | don't insult me. |
| 11:00.35 | abbat_w | hahah ;) |
| 11:00.40 | sag_ich_nicht | ckknight: sorry if you interpreted that as insult. :) |
| 11:00.48 | nevcairiel | but its true |
| 11:01.28 | mitch0 | wtb more understanding of the interworkings of AceAddon, AceEvent and AceDB |
| 11:01.34 | mitch0 | oh, and AceConsole |
| 11:01.46 | sag_ich_nicht | (also you called me insane indirectly by calling what i mentioned insane. evens out :P) |
| 11:02.09 | mitch0 | and I'm also very hungry |
| 11:04.27 | abbat_w | What about me, i always miss options to set X and Y of areas, frames etc in addons |
| 11:04.37 | abbat_w | It's make me insane ;( |
| 11:05.11 | abbat_w | Everytime need to modify setting in wtf folder |
| 11:05.17 | abbat_w | or source code |
| 11:05.43 | Fin | Alias is only *half* fixed |
| 11:05.45 | abbat_w | or use commands like /script Barternder3.bars[1]:SetPoint(..) |
| 11:05.46 | Fin | bugger |
| 11:06.14 | sag_ich_nicht | heh |
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| 11:06.29 | sag_ich_nicht | abbat_w: use fluidframes :P |
| 11:06.46 | abbat_w | try po position pitbull frames with fluid frames ;) |
| 11:06.48 | Fin | if I do "/alias /sb /say hello", typing "/sb" and hitting enter says hello |
| 11:06.59 | Fin | but "/alias /tb /tipbuddy" doesn't work |
| 11:07.02 | Fin | oh I think I know why |
| 11:07.02 | sag_ich_nicht | [13:06] <abbat_w> try po position pitbull frames with fluid frames ;) <--don't see why it shouldn't work |
| 11:07.12 | sag_ich_nicht | you just have to spam the keybinding until you get the correct parent frame |
| 11:11.35 | abbat_w | ;) |
| 11:11.35 | abbat_w | party frames, player/target, focus/tot, pet/pettarget |
| 11:11.49 | sag_ich_nicht | so? :) |
| 11:11.50 | abbat_w | antagonist bars, bt3 bars, grid buttons... |
| 11:11.52 | abbat_w | ;) |
| 11:11.56 | sag_ich_nicht | can move em all. |
| 11:12.12 | abbat_w | My ui is pixel depend |
| 11:12.20 | abbat_w | I need to fine positioning |
| 11:12.32 | sag_ich_nicht | fluidframes is capable of that |
| 11:12.34 | abbat_w | Now do it with make correction in .lua files in wtf folder |
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| 11:12.58 | sag_ich_nicht | just move it 1 px, then edit the fluid frames SV file, saves you editing 20 different files :P |
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| 11:21.42 | abbat_w | sag_ich_nicht, i prefer to make correction in settings files ;) |
| 11:22.37 | abbat_w | but every addon use they own reference point for positioning |
| 11:22.53 | abbat_w | some bottomleft corner, some topleft etc |
| 11:23.28 | sag_ich_nicht | [13:22] <abbat_w> but every addon use they own reference point for positioning <--fluidframes doesn't care, it just overwrites the position :P |
| 11:23.56 | abbat_w | i have vizor2 ;) |
| 11:24.12 | sag_ich_nicht | so? |
| 11:24.27 | abbat_w | reposition some ui elements with it. like chat frames etc. |
| 11:24.34 | sag_ich_nicht | uhu |
| 11:24.40 | abbat_w | and my point - less addons, better performance ;) |
| 11:24.48 | sag_ich_nicht | w/e |
| 11:33.25 | abbat_w | btw |
| 11:33.32 | abbat_w | !char eu warsong immoralist |
| 11:33.35 | ThraeBot | abbat_w: Immoralist, Level 70 Undead Mage (0/6/55). 9953 HP; 8561 Mana; 125 mana regen; 159 spell crit; 47 spell hit; 802 +spell dmg/heal; 4.94% dodge; 451 resilience; [[ Link: http://tinyurl.com/2ytd85 ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/3bavfk ]] |
| 11:34.07 | abbat_w | this is my pvp mage ;) |
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| 11:42.06 | [dRaCo] | could anyone fix cg to support mainhand/offhand weapon swapping? |
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| 11:54.23 | mitch0 | [draco]: fixed it already. will commit tonight |
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| 11:59.04 | mitch0 | uhm, is it possible to search pastey? |
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| 12:05.54 | sb | ckknight: mhh - "cooldown ready" is bit spamming w/ GCD :/ |
| 12:06.30 | nevcairiel | haha |
| 12:07.30 | kenlyric | is the wiki page for dogtag one of the ones that was lost? |
| 12:08.03 | mitch0 | there's a link for the actual tags somewhere near the top |
| 12:08.10 | mitch0 | should be made a bit more visible imo |
| 12:08.44 | kenlyric | top of? |
| 12:09.10 | mitch0 | erm. yesterday I could read it |
| 12:09.14 | mitch0 | now I can't find it either |
| 12:09.52 | kenlyric | anyone happen to know how to color relative to your level? |
| 12:10.25 | mitch0 | here it is: http://www.wowace.com/wiki/DogTag-1.0/Tags |
| 12:10.51 | kenlyric | guess the search engine hasn't caught up yet. |
| 12:10.57 | kenlyric | thanks |
| 12:11.03 | mitch0 | found it via pitbull... |
| 12:11.43 | mitch0 | what tricked me is that "http://www.wowace.com/wiki/DogTag-1.0/" doesn't work, wherease "http://www.wowace.com/wiki/DogTag-1.0" works... |
| 12:12.14 | mitch0 | which is probly working as intended, but it still caught me |
| 12:12.20 | nevcairiel | remove the / |
| 12:12.29 | nevcairiel | its in every wiki :p |
| 12:12.29 | kenlyric | yeah, it's a wiki page |
| 12:12.39 | mitch0 | see above |
| 12:12.42 | kenlyric | DifficultyColor seems to be what I need. |
| 12:13.01 | [dRaCo] | mitch0: great :) |
| 12:13.34 | Liandra | is there a simple ace2 addon which makes trading stuff easier by making alt + leftclick on an item put the item in the trade window? |
| 12:13.35 | Grum | mitch0: blame media-wiki :) |
| 12:13.36 | mitch0 | [draco]: unfortunately I don't have the patch handy here, only at home, so you gotta wait 2-3 hours for it ;) |
| 12:13.50 | Grum | Liandra: AltLeftClickToTrade orso ;D |
| 12:13.59 | Liandra | i just switched from gmail to postal, but apparently gmail provided this alt+leftclick functionality, and i miss it already |
| 12:14.14 | Grum | AltClickToAddItem even |
| 12:14.24 | Liandra | ah i see, thanks grummie |
| 12:14.48 | Grum | http://files.wowace.com/AltClickToAddItem/ =D |
| 12:14.59 | Liandra | WAU got it for me already :) |
| 12:15.09 | Grum | one of the few addons that is actually named after what it does! =D |
| 12:15.20 | [Ammo] | oh noes |
| 12:16.00 | kenlyric | kill it! |
| 12:16.05 | Grum | hmm according to the source Postal has the 'AltClickToMail' functionality buildin |
| 12:16.16 | Liandra | to mail, yes |
| 12:16.17 | Liandra | to trade, no |
| 12:16.23 | Grum | yup :) |
| 12:16.39 | kenlyric | yeah, for some reason the mail addon only has functionality builtt for mail.... perish the thought! |
| 12:16.43 | Liandra | and if you want to trade 50 stacks of rugged leather to someone, alt+click is nice :) |
| 12:17.46 | Grum | kenlyric: i'm not stating that is bad now am I .. ;D |
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| 12:26.41 | kenlyric | man, some of these things should be default. |
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| 12:29.09 | CIA-22 | 03roartindon * r44319 10Assessment/CoreModules/GroupMembers.lua: Assessment - Now makes better use of local groupMemberNameList |
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| 12:32.29 | kenlyric | meh! |
| 12:33.24 | kenlyric | woo, SMRT |
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| 12:35.21 | kenlyric | blizzard needs an option: no tooltip on pet. |
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| 12:36.13 | [dRaCo] | make it an addon called IDontCareAboutMyPetsName |
| 12:37.49 | CIA-22 | 03roartindon * r44320 10Assessment/Modules/Healing.lua: |
| 12:37.49 | CIA-22 | Assessment |
| 12:37.49 | CIA-22 | - Fixed Raw Healing done hit details segment data to show overhealing/rawhealing properly |
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| 12:44.31 | kenlyric | [Level:DifficultyColor] |
| 12:44.34 | kenlyric | oops, wrong window |
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| 12:46.01 | Grum | how 'slow' is DogTags btw if you put in a rather complex condition? |
| 12:46.31 | kenlyric | so, for mobs, are mana users always paladins and non-mana users always warriors? |
| 12:47.07 | Grum | Something like: [Status:SureHP?Text([CurHP][~IsMaxHP?MissingHP:Negate:Color(ff7f7f)])!PercentHP:Percent] .. is that really slow? =D |
| 12:47.29 | Grum | kenlyric: they can also be mages, locks, priests i hope O.o |
| 12:47.48 | kenlyric | well, you don't need them to be very complex. |
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| 12:48.09 | Grum | well i want the functionality that line gives |
| 12:48.13 | Grum | so not sure how to 'decomplex' it :) |
| 12:48.15 | kenlyric | but at least mage, for a mana user that doesn't heal. But, I imagine blizzard isn't that precise with their unit types. |
| 12:48.18 | krka | kenlyric: i think blackrock summoners are warlocks |
| 12:48.31 | krka | though i am not 100% of that |
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| 12:49.02 | CIA-22 | 03roartindon * r44321 10Assessment/Modules/Healing.lua: |
| 12:49.02 | CIA-22 | Assessment |
| 12:49.02 | CIA-22 | - Added Critical Heal Rate display sets |
| 12:49.02 | CIA-22 | - Fixed isDot -> isHoT |
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| 12:51.20 | Mikk | Heck, most mobs are just warriors or paladins. If they have a mana bar, they're a paladin. Otherwise warrior. |
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| 12:51.37 | Mikk | Duh, that's what you said. |
| 12:51.51 | Mikk | Did I mention I've been awake for like 24 hrs? |
| 12:52.06 | nevcairiel | thats no excuse |
| 12:52.20 | Mikk | Is it ok if I confess to being a bloody n00b? |
| 12:52.37 | nevcairiel | if its in writing and with a signature, sure :) |
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| 12:52.44 | Mikk | kk :> |
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| 12:53.23 | nevcairiel | can someone this 3 billion pdf documents that arrive at my mail account every day ? :/ |
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| 12:53.36 | nevcairiel | s/someone/someone stop/ |
| 12:55.24 | [dRaCo] | filter and trash every mail containing a pdf ;> |
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| 13:01.21 | CIA-22 | 03jncl * r44322 10Skinner/ (8 files in 2 dirs): |
| 13:01.21 | CIA-22 | Skinner: skinner EnchantMe |
| 13:01.21 | CIA-22 | - Updated Lightheaded, OneBag, OneBank & Links skins |
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| 13:13.14 | Pkekyo|cookieplz | "2007/07/20 15:12:21-38-x14]: Threat-1.0-44023 (Violation):448: table index is nil" <--- getting spammed with this lately...whattodo? |
| 13:14.06 | Stan__ | german translation for Prat is broken, too |
| 13:14.21 | Grum | no-one uses that luckily :D |
| 13:14.23 | Josh_Borke | Pkekyo|cookieplz: update |
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| 13:14.38 | Stan__ | Grum: I am no-one :P |
| 13:14.38 | Josh_Borke | Pkekyo|cookieplz: if you're using the newest one, revert ;-D |
| 13:14.53 | Grum | sorry for you ;( |
| 13:15.00 | Grum | use enGB? =D |
| 13:15.04 | sag_ich_nicht | Gagorian can you help me a bit with weapon skill and it's current effects? WoWwiki is a bit outdated and confusing about it :P |
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| 13:15.24 | sag_ich_nicht | (or anyone else? :P) |
| 13:16.38 | Pkekyo|cookieplz | >.< |
| 13:17.06 | Pkekyo|cookieplz | but why would threat start fucking about now, all of a sudden? |
| 13:17.37 | Josh_Borke | Pkekyo|cookieplz: it's still beta? |
| 13:21.46 | Pkekyo|cookieplz | yeah, but something gotta have triggered it? |
| 13:21.59 | Pkekyo|cookieplz | it worked fine for weeks now...all of a sudden I have 2k errors from threat |
| 13:23.22 | Josh_Borke | Pkekyo|cookieplz: beta means it is still being worked on and changed quickly |
| 13:23.45 | Grum | what is 'SRA' (the addon) |
| 13:23.50 | Pkekyo|cookieplz | ofcourse, but it shouldn't start malfunctioning out of nowhere when I haven't updated it |
| 13:24.21 | [Ammo] | Grum: it's a social experiment |
| 13:24.32 | Grum | how do you mean? |
| 13:25.52 | mitch0 | how does one "reset" and AceDB? |
| 13:26.12 | mitch0 | or better yet, where can I read more about these profiles in AceDB? |
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| 13:28.13 | Grum | [Ammo]: it seems to do lots of stuff :) |
| 13:29.11 | Josh_Borke | Pkekyo|cookieplz: you might have a mod that did update it |
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| 13:32.38 | Grum | Kemayo: excellent description you have now :D |
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| 13:39.44 | Fin | is it possible to hook a frame's GetText() function? |
| 13:39.48 | CIA-22 | 03lordrhys * r44323 10FuBar_WarriorAlertFu/ (3 files): |
| 13:39.48 | CIA-22 | FuBar_WarriorAlertFu: 1.1.0 |
| 13:39.48 | CIA-22 | *Fixed OnClick function |
| 13:39.48 | CIA-22 | *Moved all string values in locals file into main lua file. |
| 13:39.51 | Josh_Borke | Fin: yes |
| 13:40.14 | Fin | this is a stupid question, but if I hook it, my function gets called first right? |
| 13:40.22 | Josh_Borke | depends on how you hook it |
| 13:40.23 | Grum | depends |
| 13:40.33 | Gagorian | sag_ich_nicht: Well, all sources are kind of confusing for it. Nobody is really certain |
| 13:40.41 | Grum | if you do: hook () { own_code; orig_code } .. ;) |
| 13:40.55 | Grum | or orig_code ; own_code .. :p |
| 13:40.57 | Gagorian | sag_ich_nicht: But it seems that for each weapon skill over cap you get 0.1% hit |
| 13:41.11 | Grum | 'over the cap' ? |
| 13:41.25 | Grum | is that also compared to a lvl70 or 73? |
| 13:41.48 | Fin | uhm |
| 13:41.52 | Fin | I'm not doing either |
| 13:42.08 | Fin | that I can recognise |
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| 13:42.30 | Grum | then we don't understand your question |
| 13:42.48 | Fin | I think you do, I just don't understand the answer |
| 13:43.03 | Fin | sorry |
| 13:43.07 | Health | NO! |
| 13:44.22 | Grum | well if you 'hook' a function what you'd normally do is write a wrapper which calls the original function |
| 13:44.27 | Josh_Borke | fin: howa re you hooking it? |
| 13:44.37 | Grum | then in that wrapper you can do whatever you please with it |
| 13:44.46 | Grum | do something before it, after it, change the arguments, change the result values |
| 13:44.49 | Fin | uhm, I think like this: hook('Frame_GetText'); function Mine:GetText() seomthing end |
| 13:45.02 | Josh_Borke | so you're using AceHook? |
| 13:45.11 | Fin | yes |
| 13:45.31 | Josh_Borke | can't help :-( |
| 13:45.44 | Fin | unfortunately my lack of experience with non-Ace addons has made me a bit ignorant of how it actually works |
| 13:46.12 | Fin | I've just hooked stuff, and what I wanted to happen has happened in my functions - I've never cared whether it was before or after really |
| 13:46.17 | mitch0 | erm, is it kosher to modify the options table after registering it with dewdrop/waterfall? |
| 13:46.44 | fireglow | any of you know this damagemeter addon? http://i17.tinypic.com/63k7kh2.jpg |
| 13:46.56 | Fin | thanks for the help tho |
| 13:47.18 | sb | fireglow: recount |
| 13:47.20 | Grum | recount |
| 13:47.27 | fireglow | thanks :) |
| 13:47.28 | fireglow | <3 |
| 13:48.07 | mitch0 | nice graph |
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| 13:49.15 | Fin | see, here's my actual problem: I'm trying to figure out where I can intercept the UI somewhere whenever a command is entered, so I can parse for text that's been aliased to something else - which I can do, but I can't figure out how to (properly) modify the command itself (ie the bit after the /) |
| 13:50.07 | mitch0 | so, really now, how does one go about implementing a "reset to defaults" setting when using AceDB (specifically, self.db.profile) ? or is that handled automagically by acedb by injectiong stuff to the options table? |
| 13:50.10 | Fin | I thought maybe it might be possible to hook the edit box's :GetText() function, because that's where it gets the whole string which it passes to various different bits and stuff |
| 13:50.26 | nevcairiel | mitch0: try self:ResetDB() |
| 13:50.59 | nevcairiel | mitch0: see wiki |
| 13:51.03 | nevcairiel | for more information |
| 13:51.15 | mitch0 | nev: yeah, been there, just forgot it, thanks |
| 13:51.16 | Fin | most of the other functions I've got don't actually really *set* the text entered by the user, they just call editBox:GetText() |
| 13:51.32 | mitch0 | and for this particular thing acedb doesn't provide its own option thing, right? |
| 13:51.42 | mitch0 | (but it does for enable/disable, right?) |
| 13:51.52 | nevcairiel | right |
| 13:51.55 | nevcairiel | you can delete profiles |
| 13:52.02 | nevcairiel | which basicly is resetting them to default =P |
| 13:52.29 | mitch0 | so I don't really need an explicit "reset this profile to defaults" option? |
| 13:52.31 | Fin | don't suppose anyone's got any hints they could give me? |
| 13:52.49 | nevcairiel | i would include it anyway |
| 13:52.58 | nevcairiel | just call self:ResetDB("profile") and you are good |
| 13:53.04 | mitch0 | alrighty |
| 13:53.11 | mitch0 | thanks for the help |
| 13:56.05 | nevcairiel | i still need to find motivation to work on bt3 .. or finish bt4 :P |
| 13:56.53 | Fin | I think I broke it |
| 13:57.43 | Grum | nevcairiel: Bartender? :) |
| 13:58.13 | sag_ich_nicht | [15:40] <Gagorian> sag_ich_nicht: But it seems that for each weapon skill over cap you get 0.1% hit <--mhm |
| 13:58.21 | sag_ich_nicht | should be worked out imho Gagorian |
| 13:58.36 | mitch0 | nev: currently I'm very happy with BT3, so I'd be a sad panda if a patch br0ke it permanently |
| 13:58.42 | mitch0 | is that enough of a motivation? :) |
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| 14:03.04 | kenlyric | dogtag needs something like difficultyColor but that works on all npcs. RelativeLevelColor or something like that. |
| 14:03.44 | kenlyric | eh well, guess I don't really care what level friendly NPCs are :) |
| 14:03.47 | Tinyboom | nevcairiel: how far are away is bt4? ;) curious to test it;) |
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| 14:06.55 | nevcairiel | its still a long way :P |
| 14:07.17 | [dRaCo] | complete rewrite? |
| 14:08.24 | jme | heh i didn't notice until last night that the hounds in arc are like the same ones from MC |
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| 14:11.19 | kenlyric | slow cat is slow. |
| 14:11.29 | CIA-22 | 03mitchell 07AceAddon * r44324 10RangeDisplay/ (11 files): major refactoring to use AceAddon and friends |
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| 14:11.30 | kenlyric | wait, arc? |
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| 14:11.41 | kenlyric | i'm thinking of the ones in auch crypts. |
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| 14:12.01 | jme | kenlyric: arcatraz |
| 14:12.02 | Alliance | can someone tell me which mod is the mod that puts numbers over your spells that mean how many you can cast before oom/how much damage they do plzkthx ^_^ |
| 14:12.15 | kenlyric | the first time one dies, it's unmistakable that sound. |
| 14:12.40 | mitch0 | DrDamage? |
| 14:12.45 | jme | kenlyric: yeah |
| 14:12.48 | [dRaCo] | Reach: should be DrDamage, yes. |
| 14:12.51 | jme | kenlyric: i wish i was 60 and raiding pre-tbc |
| 14:13.01 | Reach | I dont... |
| 14:13.19 | jme | kenlyric: i pugged mc a couple of times at 70 and at least killed gehennas.. haven't done any of the others |
| 14:13.27 | Reach | thanks chaps |
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| 14:15.03 | Reach | give yourself a pat on the back |
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| 14:15.42 | CIA-22 | 03cryect * r44325 10Recount/Sync.lua: Recount - Couple fixes to sync for possible issues |
| 14:17.06 | jme | ~pat [dRaCo] |
| 14:17.06 | purl | ACTION pats [dRaCo] and says "Nicely Done!" |
| 14:17.10 | jme | ~pat mitch0 |
| 14:17.11 | purl | ACTION pats mitch0 and says "Nicely Done!" |
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| 14:17.26 | [dRaCo] | yay! |
| 14:19.14 | Cryect | mitch0: mind if I add RangeCheck to StandaloneLibs? |
| 14:20.03 | CIA-22 | 03fin * r44326 10Prat/Prat_Modules/modules/History.lua: Prat: History: upped the max lines shown to 5000 |
| 14:20.40 | Cryect | mitch0: Actually before do that just noticed RangeCheck isn't LoD? |
| 14:21.07 | Killmore | [2007/07/20 10:19:17-335-x1]: RangeDisplay\RangeDisplay.lua:19: RangeDisplay-r43074 requires RangeCheck-1.0RangeDisplay\RangeDisplay.lua:19: in main chunk --- |
| 14:21.13 | Killmore | doh |
| 14:21.29 | Cryect | heh get RangeCheck :-p |
| 14:22.09 | Killmore | yeah, I see it after the paste |
| 14:22.14 | Pkekyo|cookieplz | blizzard removed all the fel iron behind the dark portal, right? |
| 14:22.17 | Grum | <jme> kenlyric: i wish i was 60 and raiding pre-tbc <-- you dont want that ... 40man groups were the horror |
| 14:22.53 | Pkekyo|cookieplz | Grum: no, it was fucking awesome |
| 14:23.09 | Grum | not if you had 1+ retards =) |
| 14:23.30 | Cryect | Preraiding TBC was pretty good when the content was tuned right and you had a good raid |
| 14:23.32 | mitch0 | cryect: it's not lod yet |
| 14:23.36 | Pkekyo|cookieplz | thawt was half the fun! |
| 14:23.41 | mitch0 | I'm kinda unfamiliar with the LoD concept |
| 14:23.45 | Cryect | mitch0: yeah, I realized that |
| 14:23.49 | Cryect | Its real simple |
| 14:23.52 | jme | Cryect: one of your hunters is still wearing a cloak from naxx |
| 14:23.57 | jme | Cryect: :P |
| 14:23.57 | mitch0 | it's halfway ldo |
| 14:24.00 | mitch0 | or something |
| 14:24.05 | Cryect | you put ## LoadOnDemand: 1 :-p |
| 14:24.10 | Cryect | oh what are you doing on loadup? |
| 14:24.24 | mitch0 | nothing special now |
| 14:24.28 | Cryect | jme: What hunter? might not play anymore |
| 14:24.44 | Cryect | by that I mean raid |
| 14:24.46 | jme | Cryect: Kyter, he's in full t5, rank 2 |
| 14:24.53 | Pkekyo|cookieplz | blizzard removed all the fel iron behind the dark portal, right? |
| 14:24.54 | Cryect | wellthtas kyter >_> |
| 14:25.01 | jme | Cryect: lol |
| 14:25.02 | mitch0 | let me check, Mikk or someone equially honorable here beat me till I made either RangeCheck or RangeDisplay LoDable |
| 14:25.22 | Cryect | yes nonLoD libraries in Standalone is bad |
| 14:25.23 | jme | Cryect: i've never seen him around shatt or anything, i love the hunter t5 |
| 14:25.25 | CIA-22 | 03sayclub * r44327 10Automaton/Core.lua: Automaton: Updated koKR |
| 14:25.33 | Cryect | jme: He's like always in nagrand |
| 14:25.37 | jme | Cryect: ah |
| 14:25.54 | Cryect | jme: And hunters getting tier 5 is easy when mages & warlocks hate the idea of picking it up |
| 14:26.06 | jme | Cryect: heh |
| 14:26.14 | Reach | okay WTF |
| 14:26.20 | Reach | Dr. Damage is not working :( |
| 14:26.22 | Grum | t5 is where it get near decent O.o |
| 14:26.30 | Reach | It's in my addons folder |
| 14:26.31 | [dRaCo] | xloot bug: http://ace.pastey.net/71092 :/ |
| 14:26.35 | jme | Cryect: horde side needs to start raiding more or something, catalyst is still 2 or 3 months away from BT |
| 14:26.42 | mitch0 | cryect: but anyway, weren't you the one having issues with RangeCheck-1.0 yesternight? |
| 14:26.43 | Reach | and i see it when i log in in the addons bit |
| 14:26.46 | Cryect | yeah but still less damage, after Hyjal and BT they are understanding there is good reasons to pick it up |
| 14:26.51 | Reach | but i cant get it to activate |
| 14:27.03 | Grum | Cryect: massive +sta? :) |
| 14:27.04 | Cryect | mitch0: seems to have gone away most the issues was working fine on my druid at least |
| 14:27.17 | mitch0 | strange... |
| 14:27.20 | Cryect | Grum: to say the least |
| 14:27.44 | Cryect | I need further testing on my mage but after raiding I'm normally not feeling like testing stuff |
| 14:27.57 | mitch0 | cryect: so about this LoD thing. how would that change the way RangeCheck-1.0 users (like RangeDisplay) need to behave if they want a copy of it? |
| 14:28.34 | jme | Cryect: was your core raid all in t5 before you started BT? |
| 14:28.36 | Grum | [dRaCo]: XLoot-0.9.39822 <-- is the 39822 the version? if so .. update! its at r43624 ! |
| 14:28.37 | Cryect | If its not LoD and its in Standalone everyone who uses standalone but doesn't have addons that use RangeCheck will still have it loaded |
| 14:28.57 | Cryect | jme: partial at least, I only have 2 pieces still |
| 14:29.05 | jme | Cryect: ah |
| 14:29.25 | mitch0 | I understand that. but if I make it lod (somehow) how will that change the current users (RangeDisplay) |
| 14:29.34 | Cryect | hopefully not at all |
| 14:29.40 | Cryect | doesn't do anything normally |
| 14:29.51 | Cryect | unless you are using the loadup events |
| 14:30.11 | Cryect | basically when an addon asks for the library Ace2 will then load the library |
| 14:30.26 | Cryect | and besides it missing loading events it looks normal to the library loading up |
| 14:30.49 | Cryect | basically test it and see if it works if not figure out what code isn't running anymore when its LoD |
| 14:31.01 | mitch0 | I'm using ADDON_LOADED or somesuch |
| 14:31.13 | QuantumDelta | ckknight *love* the parrot changes <3 |
| 14:31.40 | QuantumDelta | multi-target throttling for aoes is lovely |
| 14:31.50 | mitch0 | erm, no. I'm doing init stuff in activate |
| 14:31.52 | Cryect | ADDON_LOADED still gets triggered |
| 14:32.11 | sag_ich_nicht | mhm |
| 14:32.17 | sag_ich_nicht | how do i create a slashcommand alias |
| 14:32.18 | Cryect | Well activate will still get called since you regster it |
| 14:32.19 | mitch0 | anyway, brb |
| 14:32.34 | sag_ich_nicht | and more specificially, how do i overwrite a /# slashcommand? >< |
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| 14:33.52 | jme | only 6 people showed up for the second half of kara last night :( |
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| 14:34.31 | Grum | jme: bah that sucks :) |
| 14:34.46 | Grum | kara is an adminitrative horror O.o |
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| 14:34.59 | sag_ich_nicht | Grum has never been to BWL. |
| 14:35.02 | sag_ich_nicht | or AQ40. |
| 14:35.12 | Grum | true on AQ40 |
| 14:35.17 | Grum | i did see BWL recently =) |
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| 14:35.24 | Grum | with 10-12 orso :) |
| 14:35.34 | jme | yeah, we were kinda pissed |
| 14:35.43 | jme | i still have like 8 pieces i need from kara :X |
| 14:36.25 | Grum | hehe |
| 14:36.31 | Grum | i can use .. mmm 1 i think |
| 14:36.43 | Grum | which drops from prince ... stupid cape .. stainless hearted orso |
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| 14:37.29 | clad|book | i need the dagger |
| 14:37.33 | clad|book | bastard |
| 14:37.40 | Grum | hehe |
| 14:37.44 | Grum | i want that too |
| 14:37.49 | Grum | has great +healing =D |
| 14:38.00 | nevcairiel | lol |
| 14:38.07 | nevcairiel | get one of the maces =P |
| 14:38.11 | Grum | got both |
| 14:38.17 | clad|book | i need it for teh +dmg |
| 14:38.24 | Josh_Borke | run shadow labs |
| 14:38.25 | Wobin | I want the mace |
| 14:38.25 | clad|book | the maces are better for healing, and there are alternatives |
| 14:38.26 | nevcairiel | imho maiden mace > prince mace tho |
| 14:38.26 | Grum | so the dagger is next! .. also got the staff from nightbane =) |
| 14:38.32 | Wobin | I got the staff from shadowface |
| 14:38.40 | Grum | nevcairiel: kinda depends what kind of priest you are |
| 14:38.45 | nevcairiel | i am not. |
| 14:38.49 | Wobin | yeah, nightbane =) |
| 14:39.18 | nevcairiel | i am druid, and mp5 > * |
| 14:39.19 | nevcairiel | :p |
| 14:39.27 | ccKep | [16:38:07] <nevcairiel> get one of the maces =P <<<< never dropped for us... not a SINGLE one |
| 14:39.29 | Josh_Borke | wow, so many nubs |
| 14:39.39 | Grum | i'd say SPI is good for a druid tbh, innervate ftw =D |
| 14:39.40 | Josh_Borke | druid ftl :-P |
| 14:39.43 | ccKep | and we've been farming kara with 2 groups for a couple month... just sucks :o |
| 14:39.56 | Grum | yeah same here |
| 14:39.57 | nevcairiel | and besides innervate, spi sucks since you spam hots all the time |
| 14:40.04 | Grum | true |
| 14:40.12 | Grum | how much time do you spend in FSR? |
| 14:40.14 | Cryect | spi is kinda crap for druids |
| 14:40.18 | ccKep | but we have a ~80% dropchance on that two-hander.. forgot the name |
| 14:40.25 | ccKep | gorehowl, or so? |
| 14:40.26 | Grum | i end up near 70-85% O.o |
| 14:40.26 | Cryect | it sucks the Hyjal & BT leather healing offset gear |
| 14:40.34 | nevcairiel | not sure, but i am really casting all the time |
| 14:40.38 | Cryect | since Hyjal is all spirit gear & BT is all +haste gear |
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| 14:41.02 | nevcairiel | even with keeping all hots up, you generally dont get out of FSR |
| 14:41.05 | Cryect | no MP5 except on T6 itself :( |
| 14:41.08 | Cryect | yep |
| 14:41.16 | Grum | t6 holy priest is sickly rich on mp5 |
| 14:41.20 | Chompers | kara sucks when you only want items from prince/netherspite |
| 14:41.23 | Reach | yay i got dr. damage working |
| 14:41.27 | Reach | that is a sexy addon |
| 14:41.31 | Chompers | its 4 hours wasted just to get to them |
| 14:41.32 | Cryect | all the T6 healing gear is good on MP5 its the offset pieces that sucks |
| 14:41.32 | nevcairiel | in BT are alot of leather mp5 items |
| 14:41.34 | nevcairiel | non-set |
| 14:41.52 | Reach | ever heard of a druid healing touch build? |
| 14:42.01 | Cryect | well they are a lot of +haste which is a waste for hots |
| 14:42.05 | Reach | they dont want spirit |
| 14:42.09 | Chompers | will there ever be a quest to uncorrupt Fisker-? |
| 14:42.18 | Chompers | perhaps in 2.2 |
| 14:42.18 | Grum | Cryect: does it 'haste' the GCD as well? |
| 14:42.21 | Cryect | well HT builds should want Spirit more than a rejuv |
| 14:42.23 | Cryect | grum: no |
| 14:42.30 | Grum | then it is total BS :) |
| 14:42.32 | Cryect | yes |
| 14:42.38 | Grum | would be imba for paladins |
| 14:42.42 | Cryect | uh you can channel tranquility better! |
| 14:42.47 | Grum | RAWRRR! ;D |
| 14:43.04 | Cryect | regrowth casts faster but you are using swiftmend in emergencies |
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| 14:43.10 | Cryect | otherwise its HOT management |
| 14:43.21 | Grum | must be odd playing a druid tbh |
| 14:43.37 | Reach | well not if you've only played a druid |
| 14:43.40 | Cryect | shrug it different from other classes unless you want to crutch it doing HT |
| 14:43.48 | Cryect | and if you do HT build you are better off rerolling |
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| 14:44.01 | Reach | meh i've seen a few good HT druid |
| 14:44.09 | Reach | they have reidiculous MP5 |
| 14:44.09 | nevcairiel | dreamstate HT builds? thats plain stupid :P |
| 14:44.11 | Cryect | Yes and they would be better as other classes :-p |
| 14:44.23 | Grum | HT? ... mising that abbrev :) |
| 14:44.27 | Cryect | HT= Healing touch |
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| 14:44.28 | nevcairiel | Healing Touch |
| 14:44.31 | Reach | well |
| 14:44.33 | trh | druid tanks rock =) |
| 14:44.34 | Fisker- | btw nevcairiel |
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| 14:44.40 | Fisker- | how's Bartender 4 coming along? |
| 14:44.43 | Cryect | its our 3 second heal, and HT builds are just spam it |
| 14:44.44 | Reach | You're forgetting that no one class is the best at healing |
| 14:44.54 | Cryect | certain classes are better at certain things |
| 14:45.02 | Reach | Different healing classes specailse in certian things |
| 14:45.03 | Grum | Cryect: how can that be viable? |
| 14:45.05 | nevcairiel | Fisker-: its getting there |
| 14:45.12 | Reach | i.e. Priests can go for ages without going MP5 |
| 14:45.15 | trh | the only thing druids really miss is a out of combat, no big cooldown ress-spell :) |
| 14:45.21 | Chompers | what big new things are you planning for bt4 nev? |
| 14:45.21 | Fisker- | so no need for public death threats? :D |
| 14:45.21 | Reach | Shamans have terrible mana regen but are good for burst healing |
| 14:45.24 | Cryect | and druids are best at keeping up tons of HOTs while paladins are superior at single target heal spamming (which is what HT aims to be) |
| 14:45.29 | nevcairiel | its simply stupid to spec like half your points in balance just to reach dreamstate |
| 14:45.34 | Reach | So a HT druid has a craptonne of MP5 |
| 14:45.39 | Grum | Reach: depends on your role tbh |
| 14:45.41 | Reach | and is the class that would spam an MT |
| 14:45.42 | Cryect | Priests best at AOE healing if its not random raid damage which is shamans |
| 14:45.49 | Reach | Yeah Grum you're getting at my point |
| 14:45.50 | deltron | Reach: yep, shaman can have the highest HPS by far |
| 14:45.58 | Grum | i am much in FSR due to the lack of 'other healing classes' |
| 14:46.01 | Reach | A HT druid is good in it's own field |
| 14:46.04 | sylvanaar | yeah, unbelievable mp5 for a HT druid |
| 14:46.11 | trh | deltron: but shamans OOM pretty fast (compared to paladins and priests) |
| 14:46.12 | Cryect | Except a pally can spam nonstop in the same situation |
| 14:46.18 | nevcairiel | the druids power are the hots. |
| 14:46.25 | Cryect | yeah |
| 14:46.25 | Reach | Only if they go for big big spell crit |
| 14:46.26 | Grum | we normally take 4-5 priests and 1pally and a druid orso O.o |
| 14:46.29 | nevcairiel | with high +Heal values, you can heal insane with only hotting |
| 14:46.32 | Reach | I've seen so many paladins go |
| 14:46.34 | nevcairiel | healing while running = imba :P |
| 14:46.42 | Reach | "Oh well illumination is terrible after the nerf" |
| 14:46.43 | deltron | trh: depends on the shaman playstyle and gear honestly. I don't go oom much, but I also chug pots :P |
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| 14:46.48 | Grum | nevcairiel: you cant call that thing a tree does running ;D |
| 14:46.49 | deltron | my gear is decent though |
| 14:46.50 | sylvanaar | the ht druid can spam + innervate someone else, or dps |
| 14:46.53 | Reach | absolutely wrong, you want spellcrit not MP5 |
| 14:47.00 | Reach | moronadins >_> |
| 14:47.07 | Cryect | Reach: math says you want both |
| 14:47.13 | trh | deltron: yeah.. when using pots it's ok.. but priests/paladins don't have to use them that much :) |
| 14:47.18 | Matrix110 | It depends on the raid damage aswell, if nobody but the MT gets damage Shamans healing isnt that effective, but for Raid Healing best by far |
| 14:47.20 | Cryect | the more stats you can use the better |
| 14:47.24 | nevcairiel | there are not many fights where a druid really uses ToL tho imho |
| 14:47.25 | Reach | well of course but many paladins leave spellcrit alone |
| 14:47.26 | Grum | no much gear has spellcrit except pvp gear if you are pre t5 |
| 14:47.33 | Cryect | well thats stupid |
| 14:47.36 | nevcairiel | dmg comes in too fast for hots to be effective |
| 14:47.40 | Cryect | you want both spell crit & mp5 in high amounts of each |
| 14:47.46 | Reach | that's not true at all Grum |
| 14:47.54 | deltron | trh: I usually get to have a mana battery (shadow priest) in my party :) |
| 14:47.59 | Reach | Pretty much all healing plate has spellcrit |
| 14:48.04 | Cryect | nevcairiel: actually a lot of fights in BT & Hyjal ToL is useful |
| 14:48.06 | trh | i don't get why druids in tree form can't cast the normal healing spell? |
| 14:48.15 | Reach | LORE |
| 14:48.15 | Cryect | to force it to be a HOT thing |
| 14:48.17 | Grum | Reach: not in kara for example |
| 14:48.23 | trh | is there any reason for it besides making tree form terribly useless? ;) |
| 14:48.31 | nevcairiel | Kael'thas is a great fight for a tree druid, i am healing the warlock off-tank of the caster-thing only with hots alone. |
| 14:48.36 | Matrix110 | nevcairiel but hotting druids are nice in fights where you dont need to top the raid fast for example Al'ar or Solarian where the raid gets dmg at known intervals |
| 14:48.38 | Undine | hehe. just completed my primal mooncloth set. priests ftw! |
| 14:48.44 | Grum | nevcairiel: how much +healing do you take then? |
| 14:48.48 | Cryect | hT build doesn't benefit from the last several talents in the Resto tree anyways so making tree good for it wouldn't be that useful |
| 14:48.59 | Grum | Undine: prepare to never throw it away again |
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| 14:49.02 | nevcairiel | Grum: fully buffed i am at 1750 orso |
| 14:49.03 | Cryect | Also would make HT really cheap which they don't want to do |
| 14:49.08 | Reach | So to conclude |
| 14:49.11 | sylvanaar | i made my goggles, thats it |
| 14:49.18 | Reach | HT druids are good in their own ideal situation |
| 14:49.24 | Cryect | Our resto druid sits at almost +2100 healing |
| 14:49.26 | trh | nevcairiel: sure, for low healing requirement it's great, but sometimes other people in raid get big damage and if other healers are busy and the druid can't shift/heal fast enough it's bad |
| 14:49.27 | Reach | as are all other healers |
| 14:49.31 | sylvanaar | HT druids are good if you know how to use them |
| 14:49.39 | Reach | exactly! |
| 14:49.42 | nevcairiel | Matrix110: only if the "stupid" pallys dont overheal the hots :/ and they always do |
| 14:49.43 | Grum | Cryect: if they are hotters they gain massive from that |
| 14:49.45 | sag_ich_nicht | wth are ht druids. |
| 14:49.47 | sylvanaar | if your healers fight over the meter - then foreget it |
| 14:49.55 | Reach | I am a space shammy! |
| 14:50.01 | Undine | 1586 +heal unbuffed, quite chuffed |
| 14:50.04 | Matrix110 | nevcairiel thats why you divide healing to different sectors |
| 14:50.06 | Reach | I leveled my char from 1-70 in 3 weeks! |
| 14:50.08 | sag_ich_nicht | i repeat |
| 14:50.10 | sag_ich_nicht | wth are ht druids. |
| 14:50.11 | nevcairiel | our pallys always fight for the meters |
| 14:50.15 | Undine | lets just not mention my hitpoints |
| 14:50.18 | Cryect | sag_ich_nicht: druids that hots suck balls |
| 14:50.20 | sylvanaar | ht druids spec dreamstate |
| 14:50.27 | nevcairiel | when i want to, i can top any of them, just to show them off :P |
| 14:50.30 | sag_ich_nicht | no no |
| 14:50.31 | sag_ich_nicht | i mean |
| 14:50.32 | deltron | I'm usually at the top of the healing meter as a shaman |
| 14:50.33 | Cryect | sag_ich_nicht: oh and spec to improved HT |
| 14:50.35 | Reach | You should see my on the healing meters after i do some chain heal spam |
| 14:50.35 | sag_ich_nicht | what does ht stand for :P |
| 14:50.37 | Reach | It's like |
| 14:50.39 | Cryect | HT = Healing Touch |
| 14:50.41 | trh | sag_ich_nicht: healing touch |
| 14:50.41 | nevcairiel | Healing Touch |
| 14:50.44 | sag_ich_nicht | oic |
| 14:50.44 | Grum | nevcairiel: that is only because hots dont overheal ;) |
| 14:50.44 | Reach | Reach - 30% |
| 14:50.45 | Cryect | its druids big healing spell |
| 14:50.48 | Reach | Thunar - 14% |
| 14:50.49 | sag_ich_nicht | i know |
| 14:50.52 | sylvanaar | hots overheal |
| 14:50.54 | sag_ich_nicht | i just didn't get it :P |
| 14:51.01 | Reach | Chain heal is the best spell in the game by far |
| 14:51.05 | Grum | yeah |
| 14:51.15 | Cryect | Reach: yes it f'ing is! |
| 14:51.16 | deltron | Reach: yeah, that's the funny thing about chain heal, so much overheal that you cannot control |
| 14:51.23 | Reach | wrong |
| 14:51.25 | Cryect | chain heal is PoM but better |
| 14:51.28 | Reach | Chain heal never overheals |
| 14:51.31 | Cryect | what do you mean overheal? |
| 14:51.33 | nevcairiel | http://www.lossendil.com/wws/?report=yxyvrwbugvpdu&s=14407-15519 |
| 14:51.36 | nevcairiel | our kaelthas kill last week |
| 14:51.39 | deltron | sure it does |
| 14:51.40 | nevcairiel | look at healing :P |
| 14:51.43 | Cryect | unless you cast chain heal whne the entire raid is full |
| 14:51.46 | Cryect | it should be good |
| 14:51.54 | Cryect | since it chains to the lowest HP |
| 14:52.00 | Reach | mm hmm |
| 14:52.00 | Cryect | like PoM does after the heal |
| 14:52.06 | Cryect | except its instant |
| 14:52.06 | deltron | if the party even has a little bit of hp missing they'll get hit with the chain heal |
| 14:52.08 | Reach | I do love chain heal |
| 14:52.13 | Reach | my guild makes fun of my for it too |
| 14:52.21 | Cryect | like chain heal is great for Hydross on Frost |
| 14:52.30 | sylvanaar | the tic of a hot that heals you to full overheals the difference - and the rest of the hot is wasted mana |
| 14:52.36 | Grum | Cryect: or melee on voidreaver :) |
| 14:52.37 | deltron | chain heal is the shaman's strongest point |
| 14:52.44 | Cryect | and lots of other fights with AOE based damage that hits melee though we are finding CoH is also great if its just melee |
| 14:52.55 | Cryect | Grum: CoH Priest on melee and the melee stays in 100% |
| 14:53.02 | Reach | people say |
| 14:53.08 | Grum | Cryect: really? |
| 14:53.10 | Reach | "Priests are the best at AoE healing" |
| 14:53.12 | Cryect | and the priest never breaks a sweat and tops the meter |
| 14:53.18 | Reach | no, a shaman is the best at AoE healing |
| 14:53.18 | nevcairiel | people are wrong |
| 14:53.25 | Undine | don't understand priests using flash heal primarily |
| 14:53.35 | Grum | Undine: only on trash |
| 14:53.36 | Cryect | priest is best at AOE Healing that is group specific damage |
| 14:53.48 | Reach | seeing as i can put out about 8500 Heal/2.5 second with chain heal |
| 14:53.51 | [dRaCo] | grum: latest xloot identifes ingame as version 39822, though the zip says 4xxxx |
| 14:53.51 | nevcairiel | which fight is group specific damge ? :P |
| 14:53.53 | Fisker- | http://www.thebestpageintheuniverse.net/images/holy_shit_iphone1.gif |
| 14:53.55 | Fisker- | finally |
| 14:53.55 | Cryect | if its not the entire group then chain heal is better |
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| 14:53.59 | Grum | [dRaCo]: odd :( |
| 14:54.03 | sylvanaar | right, when does that happen |
| 14:54.12 | Undine | i spose. trash would skew the stats quite a lot i guess |
| 14:54.12 | Matrix110 | CoH is too situational imho |
| 14:54.14 | [dRaCo] | guess someone forgot to change that. |
| 14:54.14 | sylvanaar | you mean 1 priest / group |
| 14:54.18 | Matrix110 | our priests specced out of it |
| 14:54.18 | Cryect | on a lot of fights like void reaver |
| 14:54.32 | Cryect | if you setup groups for CoH it works well |
| 14:54.32 | Reach | Void Reaver >_> |
| 14:54.43 | Reach | It took my guild 4 nights of wiping to realise we need at least 3 tanks |
| 14:54.44 | nevcairiel | you shouldnt get any group damage if your members can play |
| 14:54.45 | nevcairiel | :P |
| 14:54.47 | Matrix110 | People get damage at Void Reaver besides tanks? |
| 14:54.50 | Cryect | Reach: haha |
| 14:54.54 | Grum | Reach: lol :) |
| 14:54.57 | Reach | For some reason |
| 14:55.00 | Cryect | Matrix110: keep your melee in the entire time |
| 14:55.03 | Grum | 4 is even recommended for fuckups or bad tanks ;) |
| 14:55.06 | Reach | We did him first night on 2nd try with 2 tanks |
| 14:55.12 | Cryect | ouch |
| 14:55.13 | nevcairiel | two is minimum |
| 14:55.14 | nevcairiel | but hard |
| 14:55.16 | Reach | and then next weak we couldnt do it |
| 14:55.17 | Matrix110 | Cryect melee has to run 1yard its useless to let em stay in |
| 14:55.21 | Cryect | yeah it requires luck on avoidance |
| 14:55.25 | nevcairiel | we had 3 yesterday, one died pretty early |
| 14:55.26 | Cryect | Matrix110: no its not |
| 14:55.29 | nevcairiel | still killed him |
| 14:55.39 | Cryect | Matrix110: their damage is way higher when they stay in the entire time instead of jumping in and out |
| 14:55.40 | Fisker- | http://img.4chan.org/b/src/1184938559184.jpg <-lol @ the girl using a phone to shield from the bat |
| 14:55.44 | Reach | I consider myself pretty pro (ROFLMAO) |
| 14:55.45 | CIA-22 | 03gamefaq * r44328 10Prat/extras/PratFu.lua: Prat: deDE Update |
| 14:55.50 | Matrix110 | Well we tested it |
| 14:55.52 | Reach | i get hit by about 1 arcane orb |
| 14:55.53 | Cryect | Matrix110: a single priest can keep them all up forever with CoH |
| 14:55.58 | Matrix110 | 2 rogues normally almost same in damage |
| 14:55.58 | sylvanaar | i need to find a guild, or another game |
| 14:55.59 | Matrix110 | 1 ran out |
| 14:56.00 | Matrix110 | 1 not |
| 14:56.12 | Matrix110 | only ~20k diffrence |
| 14:56.16 | sylvanaar | did someone say WH came out? |
| 14:56.22 | Cryect | Matrix110: how considering you aren't getting autoattack damage for 30% of the time or so |
| 14:56.23 | Reach | a while |
| 14:56.23 | Grum | btw his 'melee dmg' voidreaver does - what is it? localized aoe? aoe around his feet? |
| 14:56.28 | deltron | wtb WAR |
| 14:56.32 | Cryect | AOE on the feet |
| 14:56.33 | nevcairiel | one of our rogues is top 1 in dmg on void reaver, even with running out, so what :P |
| 14:56.34 | Reach | WTIgnore WAR |
| 14:56.43 | Reach | Our rogues dont run out |
| 14:56.52 | Grum | Cryect: so rogues that are hugging his boundingbox step 1 foot back .. and done? |
| 14:56.53 | Reach | me and my shammy buffy (guess what) CHAIN HEAL THEM |
| 14:56.55 | Cryect | there is no reason to run out healing is easy elsewhere on the fight |
| 14:56.56 | Matrix110 | Cryect then your rogues stay wrong our rogues miss like 1 autoattack from running Oo |
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| 14:57.09 | Cryect | it takes one healer to easily keep the rogues up |
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| 14:57.24 | Reach | mm hmm |
| 14:57.24 | Cryect | your rogues only have 1 autoattack in the 6 second aoe damage period? |
| 14:57.28 | Reach | TBH i am so crap on void reaver |
| 14:57.33 | Reach | I have about 80% mana by the end |
| 14:57.38 | Reach | without any pots |
| 14:57.38 | Matrix110 | well they arent outside instantly |
| 14:57.38 | Cryect | or whatever it is |
| 14:57.44 | Cryect | then they took damage |
| 14:57.46 | Grum | Reach: as a rogue? lol! =D |
| 14:58.06 | Cryect | you have like 1 second before the first hit of damage |
| 14:58.23 | Reach | now morogrim tidewalker |
| 14:58.26 | Cryect | no one is debating its hard for them to go out :-p its just better to have a dedicated healer stay on them the entire time |
| 14:58.27 | Reach | he is a bitch on my mana |
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| 14:58.59 | Grum | Cryect: how do you do it with the placement? |
| 14:59.01 | Cryect | 5 melee staying in the entire time if its only 20k damage boost hey thats 100k damage boost plus that means he died faster which is why its only 20k |
| 14:59.02 | sag_ich_nicht | LOL |
| 14:59.04 | Grum | just have people do whatever they please? |
| 14:59.08 | Reach | umm |
| 14:59.12 | sag_ich_nicht | someone with thottbot and bugsack try this: |
| 14:59.13 | Cryect | Grum: assigned group positions |
| 14:59.14 | Reach | We do method 1 on bosskillers.com |
| 14:59.15 | sag_ich_nicht | /gcinfo |
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| 14:59.30 | Cryect | with spreading out there |
| 14:59.31 | nevcairiel | you really run the thottbot trojan ? :P |
| 14:59.33 | Grum | Cryect: and the group stands together at all times? and runs .. how ? |
| 14:59.34 | sag_ich_nicht | causses an endless error run |
| 14:59.41 | sag_ich_nicht | nevcairiel there is no trojan in thottbot |
| 14:59.45 | Cryect | Grum: only the melee stands in one spot |
| 14:59.48 | nevcairiel | i still call it one |
| 14:59.49 | sag_ich_nicht | plz2stfu if you don't know wtf you talk about :) |
| 14:59.49 | nevcairiel | :) |
| 14:59.57 | Undine | could a mod leave you stuck in combat somehow? |
| 15:00.02 | Reach | you need everyone on murlocs tbh |
| 15:00.03 | Wobin | no |
| 15:00.15 | Cryect | Undine: the UI bugs out sometimes |
| 15:00.18 | Grum | Cryect: so do you ahve any 'agreements/rules' for dodging the arcane bolts? |
| 15:00.26 | Reach | well I dislike my clothies being owned by fishmen |
| 15:00.27 | Undine | yeah, happening to me a lot atm on my drood |
| 15:00.36 | Cryect | Grum: uh I don't know, I tank? :-p |
| 15:00.42 | Grum | lol |
| 15:01.02 | deltron | anyone try out the PTR yet? I am having strange sound issues, I guess they revamped the sound system |
| 15:01.07 | Cryect | besides the melee occasioanlly bitching when people run close to them and orbing them its normally not bad it seems |
| 15:01.16 | Cryect | besides when someone ignores what is happening and stands still |
| 15:01.23 | Cryect | or moves at the last moment |
| 15:01.25 | Reach | I hope they dont put Zul'Aman on the PTR |
| 15:01.29 | Fisker- | http://img.4chan.org/b/src/1184942992712.jpg |
| 15:01.31 | Cryect | why not? |
| 15:01.36 | Grum | Reach: they will ofc |
| 15:01.39 | Cryect | does Zul'Aman really matter if its on the PTR? |
| 15:01.46 | Matrix110 | Avoiding the blobbs you can either use the method: Watch your own ass or stand together in 3-5ppl groups and ALL move to Left(or right if you want it like that) method 1 is way better for dps though |
| 15:01.46 | Reach | Will be intersting to see who is the best at downing new bosses |
| 15:02.02 | Cryect | downing 10 man bosses that are simpler than Kara bosses in design? |
| 15:02.09 | Reach | Nah they will be harder |
| 15:02.16 | Grum | Matrix110: we have the problem that people run into a blob falling in their path |
| 15:02.17 | Cryect | no the damage amount will be harder |
| 15:02.20 | Cryect | its aimed for harder gear |
| 15:02.25 | Cryect | but its been stated the fights are simpler |
| 15:02.30 | Reach | they did? |
| 15:02.32 | Cryect | yeah |
| 15:02.33 | Grum | or when someone runs past them they just simply ignore that person and get hit by the blob the person was running from |
| 15:02.34 | Matrix110 | Grum then method 2 is better |
| 15:02.39 | Reach | I thought they just said that about the first boss |
| 15:02.45 | Cryect | Tigole said like 6 things about the boss fights |
| 15:02.51 | Cryect | no they wanted the fights to be easier to explain to new people |
| 15:02.56 | Cryect | since people often pug kara |
| 15:03.00 | Reach | STILL. I hope it's not on the PTR ;) |
| 15:03.04 | Cryect | and taking 10 minutes to explain fights suck |
| 15:03.06 | Cryect | why |
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| 15:03.07 | nevcairiel | blobs on tidewalker? we just run towards the way to karathresh and they despawn before they hit us :P |
| 15:03.10 | Cryect | it will be completely cleared that night |
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| 15:03.16 | Matrix110 | nevcairiel i meant Void Reaver:P |
| 15:03.17 | Reach | I havnt seen any PuG get past opera in karazhan |
| 15:03.18 | Cryect | because the people in T6 are way overgeared |
| 15:03.21 | nevcairiel | ah |
| 15:03.23 | Grum | expecially when people run away .. it completely sucks |
| 15:03.23 | Grum | then those bombs drop behind you where you dont expect em O.o |
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| 15:03.29 | nevcairiel | you switch bosses too often =P |
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| 15:03.36 | Cryect | Reach: PUG's clear through prince its not hard just depends on server and who's in the pug |
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| 15:03.46 | Cryect | I mean they cleared past opera easily on TBC Beta |
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| 15:03.52 | Reach | I'm just saying! |
| 15:03.57 | Reach | I've never seen a pug get past opera |
| 15:04.02 | Matrix110 | There are different kinds of PuGs |
| 15:04.07 | nevcairiel | ive never been in a kara pug |
| 15:04.08 | Cryect | do you really go with PUGs often? |
| 15:04.10 | Reach | well by definition |
| 15:04.13 | Reach | no there arnt... |
| 15:04.17 | Matrix110 | the one consisting of many guild alts that actually did Kara and manage whole Kara easily |
| 15:04.18 | Grum | you have .. random pugs .. and 'guild pugs' :D |
| 15:04.30 | Reach | guild pugs? |
| 15:04.32 | Reach | aka...a raid? |
| 15:04.33 | Matrix110 | or the REAL PuGs which wipe @Attumen 4hours |
| 15:04.39 | deltron | heh we clear kara on our alts :P |
| 15:04.42 | Cryect | No you can have pugs of different guild alts |
| 15:04.44 | Grum | nah just some friendly guilds going together ;) |
| 15:04.53 | Cryect | do kara by simply asking aroudn |
| 15:05.08 | Reach | I hate..karazhan |
| 15:05.10 | Cryect | You just stacking the odds by avoiding general chat |
| 15:05.12 | Grum | me too :) |
| 15:05.15 | Cryect | same haven't been back in ages |
| 15:05.16 | Reach | 10 man instances -_- |
| 15:05.21 | Anmoch_ | chat frame question... i'd like to have system messages (rolls etc) in a different window than the chat input box is attached to. i've got prat, but it doesn't seem to do that, what am i missing? |
| 15:05.22 | Grum | 10man instances> * |
| 15:05.23 | Cryect | even though I need like 2 pieces of loot still from it |
| 15:05.25 | Reach | 25 man is good, 10 is...bad |
| 15:05.40 | jme | 10 = easy |
| 15:05.44 | Cryect | Naxx is still the best instance |
| 15:05.51 | Cryect | but not due to numbers or anything |
| 15:05.52 | Grum | 10man is lots of problems with classbalance when you start it |
| 15:05.53 | Cryect | just design |
| 15:05.55 | Anmoch_ | ohh... never mind |
| 15:06.02 | Anmoch_ | ./facepalm |
| 15:06.40 | jme | Grum: we pretty much take a warrior, rogue, pally, priest, hunter, shaman, shadow priest or two, and something else |
| 15:06.44 | jme | oh, offtank warrior |
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| 15:07.17 | jme | although i don't think you really need an OT for anything other than attumen and illhoof |
| 15:07.30 | jme | my cat freaking offtanked illhoof's pet |
| 15:07.30 | Cryect | ushers |
| 15:07.36 | Reach | Nah you need OT |
| 15:07.37 | Reach | for trash! |
| 15:07.41 | Cryect | yep |
| 15:07.41 | nevcairiel | you can shackle ushers now |
| 15:07.44 | Cryect | Wtf |
| 15:07.47 | jme | Cryect: in moroes chamber? we don't even really use on there |
| 15:07.50 | Cryect | you can shackle them thats gay! |
| 15:07.57 | jme | Cryect: one* |
| 15:08.00 | Cryect | no skeletal ushers the ones that freeze the tank |
| 15:08.01 | nevcairiel | romoe and julia might need a second one |
| 15:08.04 | Reach | So...best class? |
| 15:08.08 | Reach | *cough* shaman |
| 15:08.14 | jme | hmm |
| 15:08.18 | Grum | mmm we mostly class it as: tank, offtank, healerx2, interruptx2, dps |
| 15:08.20 | Cryect | could double tank them now but would suck for melee :-p |
| 15:08.26 | nevcairiel | oh and netherspite is kinda weird with one :P |
| 15:08.32 | Reach | NETHERSPITE |
| 15:08.37 | Reach | my favourite boss! |
| 15:08.37 | jme | yeah need offtank and interrupts for R&J |
| 15:08.39 | nevcairiel | we generally use 2 tanks and one druid one pally for tanking |
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| 15:08.48 | Grum | dps x4 btw |
| 15:08.53 | Reach | I've tanking netherspite |
| 15:08.54 | jme | i solod dorothee in the crone event with my pet tanking |
| 15:08.55 | Reach | tanked |
| 15:08.56 | jme | mwahaha |
| 15:09.03 | Grum | if you ahve 2 priests .. having 1 more healer is also nice :) |
| 15:09.15 | Grum | especially on nightbane .. priestss are soooo squishie =D |
| 15:09.26 | sb | netherspite is strange |
| 15:09.26 | Cryect | netherspite is fun and amusing watching new people see what we are doing and have no idea what the tanks are doing since it seems most guilds don't use the 2 tank approach for him |
| 15:09.26 | jme | i haven't been to nightbane or prince yet :X |
| 15:09.38 | sb | sometimes in banish phase he moves around and crits ppl for 12k |
| 15:09.44 | nevcairiel | what do most guilds do on ntherspite ? :p |
| 15:09.48 | Matrix110 | our tank died somehow @Netherspite and we tanked him with Mage/Warlock/Hunter/Priest |
| 15:09.51 | Grum | NS is easy, need 4x dps and 2 tanks for the beams |
| 15:09.54 | jme | Cryect: heh yeah netherspite was interesting my first time.. we use two tanks in the red beam obviously |
| 15:09.59 | Cryect | keep someone still tanking him sb and he only hits the tank when he decides to melee |
| 15:10.08 | Cryect | jme: a lot of guilds use 3 or 4 tanks in the red beam |
| 15:10.11 | sb | mhm |
| 15:10.14 | jme | Cryect: ah |
| 15:10.25 | Cryect | like most the people here :-p |
| 15:10.25 | nevcairiel | we use 2 real tanks, one resto druid and one holly pala |
| 15:10.43 | sb | mh 1 prot warri, 1 fury warii, 1 shaman, 1 rogue :p |
| 15:10.46 | sb | easy ;) |
| 15:10.46 | Cryect | 2 tanks is just easier |
| 15:10.53 | Cryect | 1 tank per transition |
| 15:11.02 | Grum | we use 2 tanks in red |
| 15:11.05 | Grum | and 2 tanks in green |
| 15:11.09 | Grum | and 4 random dps in blue |
| 15:11.14 | Grum | locks preferred :) |
| 15:11.20 | nevcairiel | one per transition? wont they die ? :p |
| 15:11.20 | sb | 2 locks in blue :o |
| 15:11.24 | Cryect | yeah rogues get to tank green when not in blue |
| 15:11.28 | Cryect | nevcairiel: no |
| 15:11.34 | Grum | nevcairiel: beam-dance - end up with 34-36 debuffs |
| 15:11.36 | Cryect | nevcairiel: you bounce in and out of the beam |
| 15:11.40 | nevcairiel | ah |
| 15:11.40 | Grum | and have NS have 9-111 |
| 15:11.43 | nevcairiel | cheaters :P |
| 15:11.43 | Grum | 9-11 even |
| 15:12.31 | Grum | and have the rest of the raid stand near the door against NS'd bounding box unless the red comes from 'back in the room' then you get tailswiped :) |
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| 15:12.38 | Grum | and we kinda never heal tanks |
| 15:12.43 | Cryect | I miss the old nightbane kinda else than the loot sucked (without BoP) Was a nice challenge |
| 15:12.45 | Grum | only at the start before the beams are up |
| 15:12.50 | Cryect | tailswiped? |
| 15:12.56 | Cryect | he can't tailswipe |
| 15:13.01 | Grum | hmm then why did he hit me! |
| 15:13.10 | jme | l2notaggro? |
| 15:13.20 | jme | :D |
| 15:13.22 | Cryect | don't know? I've tanked the green beam while right on top of his tail |
| 15:13.24 | Grum | nah he was banished and i ran past his ass to heal someone up |
| 15:13.29 | Grum | and i got slammed away |
| 15:13.30 | Cryect | oh thats not tail swipe |
| 15:13.33 | Cryect | thats his breath |
| 15:13.36 | jme | oh |
| 15:13.38 | Grum | not near his ass :0 |
| 15:13.48 | Cryect | he prolly hit you with it and you didn't know |
| 15:14.04 | Cryect | prolly just lag on where he was looking |
| 15:14.08 | Grum | yeah must be then |
| 15:14.12 | jme | Cryect: people will probably be 4 manning kara next xpac :( |
| 15:14.18 | jme | Cryect: at level 80 or something |
| 15:14.27 | Grum | jme: 5-6 prolly not 4 :) |
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| 15:14.55 | Cryect | Grum: prolly 3 or 4 considering people 5 man most of MC |
| 15:15.13 | Josh_Borke | people are 5manning MC? |
| 15:15.16 | Cryect | yeah |
| 15:15.25 | Cryect | Thunderfury groups! |
| 15:15.26 | Grum | you need at least 4 for NS :) |
| 15:15.26 | Josh_Borke | heh |
| 15:15.45 | Cryect | they just do through geddon but they could do more |
| 15:15.52 | jme | Grum: 6 for ns imo, gotta rotate beams |
| 15:16.07 | Cryect | you only need 4 for netherspite |
| 15:16.10 | Grum | 2 for red and green and 2 for blue |
| 15:16.25 | Grum | and a healer .. ok ok ;) |
| 15:16.32 | Cryect | well your healer can be in blue beam |
| 15:16.48 | Grum | yeah |
| 15:16.49 | Cryect | or heal using Vamp Embrace |
| 15:16.57 | Cryect | just make sure you don't press SW:death |
| 15:17.05 | Grum | hihi |
| 15:17.27 | Grum | i love it when shadoom priests in their DPS cycle press SW:Death just when Curator starts evocation =D |
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| 15:17.30 | Grum | and crit ofc=D |
| 15:17.59 | Grum | that is truly instagib =D |
| 15:18.08 | Fisker- | anyone know a diff utility for windows that can tell me the diff of 2 dirs? |
| 15:18.30 | Grum | fileentry based or filecontent based ? :) |
| 15:18.49 | Fisker- | fileentry |
| 15:18.49 | Fisker- | atleast for starts |
| 15:18.51 | Grum | humz prolly any program that can sync can do that |
| 15:19.07 | Grum | i know some ftp clients have a 'compare' mode |
| 15:19.11 | Grum | and you can just compare 2 local dirs |
| 15:19.24 | jme | Fisker-: http://gnuwin32.sourceforge.net/packages/diffutils.htm |
| 15:19.26 | Baraius | Araxis Merge |
| 15:19.27 | Grum | but i'd get diff :) |
| 15:19.30 | Grum | indeed .. =D |
| 15:19.45 | Baraius | That's For Pay though (although they might have a trial) |
| 15:20.05 | Fisker- | kthx jme |
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| 15:20.14 | weab | doesn't tortoisesvn come with a diff util |
| 15:20.17 | jme | Fisker-: np, l2google :D |
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| 15:20.49 | Fisker- | :< |
| 15:21.02 | Fisker- | today we will find out |
| 15:22.29 | Cryect | Fisker-: WinDiff if you have VS6 or earlier |
| 15:22.39 | Cryect | Don't seem to include in VS2003 or VS2005 |
| 15:23.14 | Antiarc|Work | windiff is free |
| 15:23.27 | Antiarc|Work | At least the one I use |
| 15:23.30 | Cryect | not exactly the nicest interface though |
| 15:23.54 | Cryect | Is there a newer version than 5.1 assuming you are talking the Microsoft one? |
| 15:23.56 | Antiarc|Work | http://www.grigsoft.com/download-windiff.htm |
| 15:24.30 | Antiarc|Work | I wish I could get TortoiseMerge as a general-purpose diff tool. |
| 15:24.36 | Cryect | haha didn't realize the source code for windiff was open |
| 15:24.53 | Cryect | never bothered installing all the source with vs |
| 15:25.03 | sb | Cryect: when is relog done? *hides* :p |
| 15:25.09 | Fisker- | nice Antiarc gui |
| 15:25.31 | Cryect | sb: heh not for a while prolly will get recording of data over the weekend |
| 15:26.06 | sb | :p |
| 15:26.17 | Cryect | recording of data without a display won't be too useful though |
| 15:26.23 | Fisker- | I could've not utilized my time better than download TBC twice |
| 15:26.34 | sb | hm |
| 15:26.36 | sb | haha!? :p |
| 15:27.09 | deltron | Antiarc|Work: I <3 WinMerge ( http://winmerge.sf.net |
| 15:27.44 | Antiarc|Work | I'll check it out |
| 15:28.15 | sag_ich_nicht | or |
| 15:28.19 | sag_ich_nicht | just use diff. |
| 15:28.22 | sag_ich_nicht | because like. |
| 15:28.24 | sag_ich_nicht | there is gnuwin32. |
| 15:28.26 | sag_ich_nicht | with diff in it. |
| 15:28.27 | sag_ich_nicht | and stuff. |
| 15:28.35 | sag_ich_nicht | http://gnuwin32.sourceforge.net/ |
| 15:28.49 | Fisker- | goats suck |
| 15:29.56 | jme | anyone know the php binary operators offhand? |
| 15:30.24 | sag_ich_nicht | reboot time |
| 15:30.26 | sb | http://de.php.net/language.operators.bitwise |
| 15:30.26 | sb | ? |
| 15:30.33 | sb | errr and remove that de. :p |
| 15:30.42 | jme | sb: heh thanks, didn't think to search for bitwise |
| 15:32.33 | sb | mh well |
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| 15:32.37 | sb | google "php binary operators" :p |
| 15:32.47 | sb | first result :p |
| 15:32.54 | jme | well the code i had worked, i had some missing semicolons above that was throwing me off |
| 15:33.08 | jme | was = were |
| 15:34.11 | Antiarc|Work | Winmerge looks nice. |
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| 15:37.19 | Trisorion | What is a good free graphic creation software? |
| 15:39.29 | Trisorion | Mikk Mikk Mikk Mikk Mikk Mikk |
| 15:40.59 | [gk]Hotphoenix | Trisorion gimp? |
| 15:41.02 | jme | Gimp |
| 15:41.28 | deltron | paint.net |
| 15:42.23 | sb | <3 paint.net |
| 15:46.31 | TecnoBrat | Fucking fraud companies |
| 15:48.42 | Trisorion | lol I must be missing something |
| 15:48.46 | Trisorion | dowloaded the gimp |
| 15:48.52 | Trisorion | no exe, just a folder |
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| 15:51.01 | Anmoch_ | Trisorion: perhaps you picked the source download? |
| 15:51.30 | Chompers | Antiarc: have you made any changes to your cowtip? |
| 15:51.41 | Chompers | i remember you making a really awesome looking layout for it |
| 15:51.58 | Chompers | i wish to steal yours. |
| 15:52.18 | CIA-22 | 03antiarc * r44329 10Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0/NPCModules/CavernsOfTime/ (. BlackMorass/ BlackMorass/Temporus.lua): Threat-1.0: Added Temporus module, not yet activated. |
| 15:52.22 | Antiarc|Work | Chompers: Not lately, no |
| 15:52.50 | deltron | http://www.penny-arcade.com/comic/2007/07/20 <-- lol |
| 15:54.50 | Trisorion | Anmioch_:What do you mean |
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| 15:56.42 | Fisker- | http://www.penny-arcade.com/comic/2007/07/16 |
| 15:56.57 | Fisker- | but mac guy is in it |
| 15:57.08 | Fisker- | So figures that there would be a lot of inaccuracies in it |
| 16:01.18 | art3mis | http://globalnerdy.com/2007/07/18/laws-of-software-development/ |
| 16:01.22 | Antiarc|Work | http://flickr.com/photos/jeremyjohnson/847449633/ <-- awesome |
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| 16:02.22 | Fisker- | well a lot of awesome is lost in the whole iphone transition |
| 16:03.15 | wallen | I fucked up Parrot's savedvariables file and the backup is 1100km away from where I am now, this sucks |
| 16:03.42 | Trisorion | how configuarable is parrot lol |
| 16:03.46 | trh_ | abyssichate: that's why you gotta use remote desktop :) |
| 16:04.05 | abyssichate | I didn't really think about that even because I wanted to turn that pc off since I'll be away for more than one month |
| 16:04.31 | abyssichate | I'll switch back to MSBT for the rest of the summer, I really cannot go through the process of configuring it again :s |
| 16:04.45 | trh_ | abyssichate: if you got a router in that building connected to the pc.. wakeup on lan :) |
| 16:05.11 | Trisorion | Ok so I dowload the souce for something then I have to get a C compiler and compile it? Then I can use it? |
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| 16:05.24 | TecnoBrat | Fisker-, yea .. just dealing with people who are doing fraud clicks on CPC stuff |
| 16:05.24 | Xuerian | [dRaCo]: Revision in XLoot should automatically be defined. |
| 16:07.00 | Pkekyo|cookieplz | what's best for honor? AB+weekend or AV? |
| 16:07.08 | durcyn | AB is the highest honor/hour if you win |
| 16:07.22 | Pkekyo|cookieplz | well, horde can't cooperate for jack shit soeh... |
| 16:07.34 | CIA-22 | 03mitchell * r44330 10ClosetGnome/ClosetGnome.lua: ClosetGnome: quick fix for 2H -> MH+OH weapon switch bug |
| 16:07.42 | Trisorion | closet gnome? wtf lol |
| 16:07.51 | Pkekyo|cookieplz | ClosetGnome = win! |
| 16:08.02 | Trisorion | what is it? Item Rack-ish? |
| 16:08.03 | Xuerian | Trisorion: Item set management. |
| 16:08.18 | [dRaCo] | Xuerian: dl'ed today |
| 16:08.24 | mitch0 | [draco]: there you have it |
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| 16:08.48 | Pkekyo|cookieplz | I love my closet gnome :> |
| 16:08.50 | Xuerian | [dRaCo]: I'll check |
| 16:09.04 | Anmoch_ | Trisorion: gimp is open source software, so if you just got a directory full of .c, .h files etc, you likely picked the wrong download and should look for one labeled "windows binaries" or some such (sorry for the late answer, AB got in the way) |
| 16:09.14 | Funkeh` | hi all |
| 16:09.33 | [dRaCo] | mitch0: great, thanks :) |
| 16:09.55 | PProvost | Trisorion, you also could look at GimpShop which is a repackage/hack of Gimp to make it more Photoshop-like. |
| 16:10.19 | Trisorion | well does that make it better or just easier for people whoa re used to photoshop |
| 16:12.17 | Xuerian | [dRaCo]: I honestly have no idea what's up. |
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| 16:14.11 | ashai|hc | PProvost: got a link? |
| 16:14.15 | ashai|hc | nm ill google it |
| 16:14.28 | PProvost | That's all I'd do... |
| 16:14.37 | Trisorion | I give up |
| 16:14.46 | PProvost | I actually stopped using it a few versions ago 'cause it didn't work well in my configuration, but YMMV |
| 16:14.48 | Trisorion | I have no idea what im doing |
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| 16:17.06 | Trisorion | What is the most idiot proof way to do this |
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| 16:18.55 | Anmoch_ | Trisorion: to install gimp? |
| 16:19.10 | [dRaCo] | Xuerian: I even completely deleted XLoot and reinstalled it, still identifies as version 39xxx |
| 16:19.10 | BankZ | Can you disable the timer bars in bigwigs? |
| 16:19.21 | Anmoch_ | head to http://gimp-win.sourceforge.net/stable.html, download the gimp package plus the gtk runtime for your windows, install htem |
| 16:19.23 | Xuerian | [dRaCo]: No, it's that way in source |
| 16:19.26 | Anmoch_ | s/htem/them/ |
| 16:19.30 | Xuerian | [dRaCo]: I just don't know why. |
| 16:19.49 | [dRaCo] | oh, ic. |
| 16:20.01 | [dRaCo] | seen the bug I posted earlier? |
| 16:21.16 | Trisorion | The Setup detected that your CPU has HyperThreading enabled. This is known to cause lockups with certain buggy BIOSes. If GIMP appears to hang up while loading extension_script_fu, try to either upgrade your BIOS or disable HyperThreading in the BIOS setup. |
| 16:21.19 | Trisorion | what? |
| 16:21.40 | Xuerian | [dRaCo]: PTR bug, loot extending out of the frame, or something else? |
| 16:21.51 | [dRaCo] | [2007/07/20 16:26:18-144-x1]: XLoot-0.9.39822\XLoot.lua:550: Usage: GetItemInfo(itemID|"name"|"itemlink") |
| 16:22.07 | [dRaCo] | while looting some npc in AV |
| 16:22.21 | Xuerian | [dRaCo]: Yeah, I've gotten that once before. Not sure why, I'm guessing nil item name string? |
| 16:22.44 | Xuerian | [dRaCo]: Till it happens in a repeatable manner I don't have a definite idea what it is |
| 16:23.08 | [dRaCo] | ok, I'll let you know when I can reproduce it |
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| 16:24.01 | Cryect | mitch0: btw there is full t6 premades on PTR if you haven't checked yet |
| 16:25.37 | Tornhoof | in us |
| 16:27.19 | NM|Xinhuan | is there an API that can tell me if an item (or itemlink) is usable? (i.e i meet the level, class, armor class, skill, etc requirements) |
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| 16:27.52 | mitch0 | cryect: I can't find them on the eu ptr... where should I find them? on the login page or at the character copy web page? (never been to ptr...) |
| 16:28.11 | Cryect | oh that sucks then just US PTR's I gues |
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| 16:28.34 | Cryect | would be on character copy page though |
| 16:28.36 | Cryect | for hte ptr |
| 16:28.36 | Trisorion | If they were there it would be under account then ptr |
| 16:29.20 | mitch0 | seems .eu doesn't gave premades then :( |
| 16:30.31 | nevcairiel | back in the day, when we only had premades, i wouldve been happy to use my own char |
| 16:30.37 | nevcairiel | whats the point in premades ? :P |
| 16:30.54 | Fisker- | less testing moar playing |
| 16:30.58 | Cryect | helps for testing of content if player gear might not be up to the point htey want |
| 16:31.06 | Cryect | for 2.2 who knows |
| 16:31.11 | nevcairiel | so get geare vendors again |
| 16:31.19 | nevcairiel | like 2.1 had |
| 16:31.28 | Cryect | prolly to appease the people who bitch about it for some strange reason |
| 16:31.38 | BankZ | Im trying to get DBM and BigWigs to play nice togther but cant figure out how to turn off the BigWigs bars |
| 16:31.40 | Cryect | I think its kinda silly but lets you do some addon testing |
| 16:31.44 | Chompers | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bX5Vsc92exc |
| 16:32.09 | mitch0 | nevcairiel: point is I don't have a lvl70 hunter and I got a bug report from one of them, can't test |
| 16:32.10 | nevcairiel | i hate premades somehow, spells not in order |
| 16:32.11 | nevcairiel | etc |
| 16:32.16 | Cryect | hehe |
| 16:32.32 | nevcairiel | i dont think they do it for addon devs =P |
| 16:32.37 | Cryect | nor I! |
| 16:32.44 | mitch0 | nev: they should |
| 16:32.57 | mitch0 | in fact, addon devs should have more than 4 chars... |
| 16:33.33 | mitch0 | is there an auto-leveller on ptr? :) |
| 16:33.48 | mitch0 | there used to be one in beta if I recall correctly |
| 16:34.38 | kenlyric | if they have premades, it's for a very specific reason. Because they know that premades = 10k people dueling. |
| 16:34.53 | Cryect | If they hadn't remove GM commands from the public client you could have used gm commands a couple weeks ago (accidently left on for all accounts on PTR a while ago) |
| 16:35.26 | Tornhoof | dot resist checking i guess |
| 16:35.33 | Tornhoof | they supply shitloads of resist gear |
| 16:35.39 | Cryect | but they gave them T6 I thought? |
| 16:35.48 | Cryect | oh lots of resist gear |
| 16:35.55 | Cryect | I figure resilence checking would be more important |
| 16:35.57 | mitch0 | laterz |
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| 16:36.12 | Tornhoof | 36slot bag with resist gear |
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| 16:36.44 | Cryect | haha Furor's Bag of Resistence gear or whatever its called used again? |
| 16:36.52 | Tornhoof | yeh |
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| 16:37.27 | kenlyric | they fucking need to make that fucker real. |
| 16:37.54 | CIA-22 | 03cryect * r44331 10Recount/Sync.lua: |
| 16:37.54 | CIA-22 | Recount - Forgot to actually call the code to remove old distance tables |
| 16:37.54 | CIA-22 | - Adds some test sync code |
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| 16:38.58 | CIA-22 | 03pb_ee1 * r44332 10LZProfiler/LZProfiler.lua: LZProfiler: The profiler should no more save non-valid enchants. |
| 16:40.35 | BankZ | Do you guys like Recount better than Violation? |
| 16:40.46 | Cryect | Depends what you want |
| 16:41.20 | Matrix110 | I like SWStats most because i cant get anyone to switch to Violation or Recount or anything:P |
| 16:41.30 | Gnancy | I like Assement myself |
| 16:41.47 | BankZ | doesnt seem like Violation can show only in combat data, so I am looking for something else |
| 16:42.23 | BankZ | SWS is a pig |
| 16:42.24 | Cryect | Recount records only incombat data (unless you set a var that isn't exposed in a config window yet) |
| 16:42.30 | Cryect | if you think SWS is a pig |
| 16:42.39 | Cryect | then you will want to disable time based recording in Recount :-p |
| 16:42.55 | Cryect | need a popup msg for that for first time you use it |
| 16:43.52 | Cryect | anyways I'mm out |
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| 16:46.09 | Wobin | http://community.livejournal.com/scans_daily/3779064.html?nc=10&style=mine |
| 16:46.14 | Wobin | CHO! |
| 16:47.38 | CIA-22 | 03pb_ee1 * r44333 10LZProfiler/LZProfiler.lua: LZProfiler: Removing useless SetCraftSpell() that was slowing down performance while analysing crafts. |
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| 16:53.00 | art3mis | going to me talk pretty tonight i think |
| 16:53.21 | art3mis | and there i shall cast my own magic spell called drinkum patronum |
| 16:53.29 | art3mis | and it shall make all girls attractive |
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| 16:57.53 | Shir | hmm when i install Omen+Threat-1.0 in a clean wow I get the error similar to: No library instance of AceAddon-2.0 found from Threat-1.0\Threatlogger.lua line 3 .. that cant be right ;) |
| 16:58.18 | Shir | easiest way to solve this? |
| 16:58.36 | nevcairiel | did you install Omen without externals? |
| 16:58.43 | nevcairiel | if no, you do not need threat-1.0 |
| 16:59.07 | nevcairiel | if yes, you need some more :P |
| 16:59.34 | Shir | afaik i installed it with externals . lets see |
| 16:59.44 | nevcairiel | check Omen\Libs |
| 16:59.57 | nevcairiel | if there is stuff inside, then delete threat-1.0 from your addons dir |
| 17:00.20 | Shir | installed both with WAU 1.9.42.491 using Dependency Mode: Auto and Default Mode: Externals |
| 17:01.28 | Shir | Omen has AceAddon, Threat-1.0 hasn't. Omen has Threat-1.0 |
| 17:01.43 | art3mis | wewease bwian! |
| 17:02.30 | Shir | both Threat versions are the same |
| 17:03.09 | ScoTTie | is there a wowace addon that can move the tooltip ? |
| 17:03.16 | Shir | TinyTip can |
| 17:03.18 | art3mis | tinytip |
| 17:03.21 | ScoTTie | thanks :) |
| 17:03.27 | art3mis | i like afttebut its not ace i dont think |
| 17:03.33 | art3mis | err aftte |
| 17:03.59 | Shir | nevcairiel: any ideas how this is broken? if Threat-1.0 uses AceAddon shouldn't it be at least in the deps? |
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| 17:07.11 | Matrix110 | Shir it has Ace2 as opt dep |
| 17:07.16 | Shir | yeah just spotted that |
| 17:07.28 | sylvanaar | all it needs is OptDep: Ace2 |
| 17:07.29 | Shir | but curious how this thing expects to work if there is no AceAddon loaded |
| 17:07.43 | Shir | it just bluntly barfs an error :) |
| 17:08.18 | Antiarc|Work | Likely an oversight on my end |
| 17:08.26 | Antiarc|Work | But you don't need Threat-1.0 installed if you have Omen |
| 17:08.30 | Antiarc|Work | So you can nuke it and it'll work fine |
| 17:09.22 | Shir | ah k, well if you could fix it, that would be great :) |
| 17:09.29 | Shir | i'll try without threat installed ;) |
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| 17:09.40 | [Liquidor] | Any Auctioneer alike Ace addon? |
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| 17:09.47 | Shir | not yet |
| 17:09.49 | [Liquidor] | Or noticable AH addons? |
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| 17:10.08 | Shir | works Antiarc|Work |
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| 17:12.32 | Shir | Antiarc|Work: fix is probably 1 line to embeds.xml and AceAddon in the libs dir right? |
| 17:12.36 | hypetech | Does anybody recognize this language? "Nahi2ya na ako sa nio pero la me mggawa" my friend got a random text message last night an that's part of it |
| 17:12.47 | Antiarc|Work | It'll be a fix in the TOC |
| 17:13.01 | BankZ | Does recount work with SWS? |
| 17:13.07 | ckknight | hyperChipmunk: my initial guess: Tagalog |
| 17:13.10 | Shir | What kind (enlighten me please - learning still :P) |
| 17:13.23 | Antiarc|Work | Hrm. Ace2 is an opdep for Threat already. |
| 17:13.27 | Shir | yeah |
| 17:13.39 | ckknight | sb: bah, it should take GCD into account |
| 17:13.58 | Shir | but it's not opt according to Threatlogger.lua |
| 17:14.18 | ckknight | hey all |
| 17:14.21 | Antiarc|Work | I need to just comment out the logger stuff |
| 17:14.23 | Antiarc|Work | That's depricated |
| 17:14.29 | Antiarc|Work | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:14.36 | Shir | haha that will also fix it ofc ... grin ;D |
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| 17:16.56 | Antiarc|Work | ..............biggest waste ever. |
| 17:16.56 | Antiarc|Work | http://www.cnn.com/2007/TECH/07/20/superfast.net.ap/index.html |
| 17:17.24 | ckknight | today's penny arcade is funny |
| 17:17.33 | Shir | Antiarc: is it possible in waterfall to add a description to 'E-TPL' ? it's not really clear from first glance what it is |
| 17:17.41 | nekoh | does anyone know of a good(working) blp<->(other image format) converter ? |
| 17:17.49 | Antiarc|Work | Yeah, I need to just fill out the desc field |
| 17:17.50 | Wobin | ckknight: who would have thunk it? =P |
| 17:17.54 | Antiarc|Work | (it's encounter TPS, as opposed to local TPS) |
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| 17:19.14 | Shir | Antiarc|Work: yeah i know what it is, just tossing some very minor 'issues' at you :) |
| 17:19.33 | Shir | going to make my guild use it, and just want to keep the 'zomg what is that field' questions low =D |
| 17:19.40 | Antiarc|Work | Hehe, fair enough |
| 17:20.11 | ckknight | http://www.chorewars.com/ |
| 17:20.59 | Shir | Antiarc|Work: nothing major, dont worry .. it works like a charm atm :) Thanks for working on it :D |
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| 17:22.56 | Shir | Antiarc|Work: when i slam 'Reset profile' in the configuration the Omen minimap icon moves suddenly behind another icon :) (behind the (-)) |
| 17:23.13 | Antiarc|Work | Huh. |
| 17:23.19 | Shir | yes that was my first reaction =D |
| 17:23.22 | Antiarc|Work | I'll check it out. |
| 17:23.32 | Shir | this is with 0 addons and *only* Omen running :) |
| 17:24.11 | Shir | when i reload ui, it moves the same distance more to the left as it just moved to the right (this is getting odd =D) |
| 17:24.34 | Shir | (from the original starting location - so it actually more 'left (CW)' on the minimap than before :) |
| 17:25.14 | Shir | funky, 2 more reload uis: 1) behind the (1) again, 2) too much left again .. seems to be alternating |
| 17:25.38 | Antiarc|Work | That sounds like a FuBar_Plugin issue - Omen doesn't directly do any minimap button management |
| 17:25.44 | Shir | 2 reloaduis further .. it moves all around |
| 17:25.47 | Antiarc|Work | Huh. |
| 17:25.47 | Shir | i have no fubar installed atm |
| 17:25.51 | Antiarc|Work | I'll see if I can replicate it tonight. |
| 17:25.55 | Shir | i only have Omen :) |
| 17:26.05 | xyu | http://nedroid.com/bcpage1.html |
| 17:26.18 | Shir | let me toss away my SV and see if it happens without 'reset profile' |
| 17:26.33 | Antiarc|Work | Well, Omen embeds FuBar_Plugin which does the minimap button stuff if FuBar isn't installed |
| 17:26.42 | Shir | ah k |
| 17:27.58 | xyu | what's the ace2 dmg meters called? |
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| 17:28.11 | durcyn | xyu: violation, recount, and assessment |
| 17:28.19 | xyu | ah violation is the one i wanted to try, thx |
| 17:28.57 | Shir | Antiarc|Work: just confirmed- has nothing to do with 'reset profile' and you are most likely right |
| 17:29.08 | AnimaVilis | Hello, can anyone solve my problem maybe? I wanted to play on a friends char but I dont want to mess his spell setup. Can I somehow save the positions of his spells on the bars and restore it later? |
| 17:29.19 | snurre | http://youtube.com/watch?v=ZbbxA8a_M_s |
| 17:29.21 | Shir | make a screenshot O.o |
| 17:29.25 | trh_ | AnimaVilis: nope |
| 17:29.32 | sylvanaar | When did this fubar thing start? Why does it need to be OpDep loaded now? |
| 17:29.33 | durcyn | AnimaVilis: hotbars are server-side |
| 17:29.40 | AnimaVilis | ye i know that |
| 17:29.42 | trh_ | i'm not sure if there are still any barmods that safe them client-side |
| 17:29.43 | AnimaVilis | thats why im asking ; |
| 17:29.50 | trh_ | save |
| 17:29.53 | xyu | AnimaVilis: I use something called Spellbinder |
| 17:29.57 | xyu | and don't use the bars at all |
| 17:30.04 | AnimaVilis | is it possible for an addon to move the skills on the pars |
| 17:30.07 | Shir | AnimaVilis: how many button pages does he use? |
| 17:30.17 | trh_ | AnimaVilis: btw: it works pretty good to setup the wrong keys in the the keybinding |
| 17:30.21 | jme | xyu: spellbinder++, i like to keep around a bar to watch cooldowns |
| 17:30.25 | Shir | if he only uses <5 then you can use 6-10 :) |
| 17:30.26 | AnimaVilis | he uses standard ui and at least 4 bars |
| 17:30.28 | trh_ | AnimaVilis: i.e. key "1" to barposition 6 |
| 17:30.35 | trh_ | AnimaVilis: the key bindings are only saved local |
| 17:30.36 | art3mis | only 1 more week til the simpsons movie |
| 17:30.37 | Shir | well then you use 5-10 ;) |
| 17:31.10 | AnimaVilis | well I'd want to see the actual skills tbh. but ye, i can try using 5-10 |
| 17:31.32 | Hjalte | Hmm. Someone needs to update Postman to reflect the changes to mail between characters of the same account :\ |
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| 17:32.04 | cncfanatics | yo all |
| 17:32.10 | Shir | Hjalte: that would probably require you typing out a list of 'alts' for that realm/char |
| 17:33.08 | kergoth | what would postman do differently for those changes? |
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| 17:33.30 | Wobin | must... stop... reading ... ctrl-alt-delete archives... |
| 17:33.35 | Wobin | must... go... to ... bed |
| 17:33.42 | cncfanatics | Wobin, you can't do that |
| 17:33.46 | trh_ | pretty late in australia ^^ |
| 17:33.52 | Wobin | 3:30am |
| 17:33.53 | cncfanatics | 7:30pm lal here |
| 17:33.58 | trh_ | ya.. something like that ;) |
| 17:34.00 | Wobin | urge to live... fading... |
| 17:34.03 | syeren | ckknight? |
| 17:34.04 | Hjalte | kergoth, mail between characters of the same account is now instant. Postman still reports arrival of items like if it took an hour. |
| 17:34.09 | trh_ | yep.. 7:30 pm in CET =) |
| 17:34.17 | sylvanaar | whats the channelframe? |
| 17:34.20 | Antiarc|Work | Oy. Rogue opener nerf. ;_; |
| 17:34.20 | durcyn | ~ugt |
| 17:34.20 | purl | [ugt] Universal Greeting Time. Created in #mipslinux, it is a rule that states that whenever somebody enters an IRC channel it is always morning, and it is always late when the person leaves. The local time of any other people in the channel, including the greeter, is irrelevant. http://www.total-knowledge.com/~ilya/mips/ugt.html |
| 17:34.22 | kergoth | ah |
| 17:34.26 | Wobin | only... up.. to... 2004 |
| 17:34.29 | Antiarc|Work | Because rogues were so dominant in the arena already? -_- |
| 17:34.41 | kergoth | rogue opener nerf? |
| 17:34.47 | Morghus | What? Oo |
| 17:34.48 | syeren | ckknight, The Incoming Spell featur on Parrot is working perfectly, nice job as per usual :) |
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| 17:34.53 | syeren | *feature |
| 17:35.01 | Shir | Wobin: dont read em too fast, you will cry when you finish them all and have to wait daily :P |
| 17:35.03 | Antiarc|Work | Energy gains are pro-rated now |
| 17:35.12 | Morghus | Pro-rated? What's that? |
| 17:35.13 | Antiarc|Work | So if you open just before an energy tick, you will get 1-2 energy instead of 20 on the tick. |
| 17:35.13 | Wobin | I've already read them before |
| 17:35.14 | sylvanaar | man they changed so much shit |
| 17:35.24 | Shir | Antiarc|Work: did you help building Omen as well? |
| 17:35.25 | cncfanatics | the rogue energy on openers is a bug |
| 17:35.28 | Antiarc|Work | So, it's possible to only get, say, 22 energy back over a duration cheapshot. |
| 17:35.33 | Antiarc|Work | Shir: Omen's entirely my mod :) |
| 17:35.39 | kergoth | wtf |
| 17:35.42 | Antiarc|Work | Thank goodness. |
| 17:35.42 | Shir | good, can i toss in a small feature request? =D |
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| 17:35.44 | Antiarc|Work | Sure. |
| 17:35.47 | Wobin | Antiarc: no really? =( |
| 17:35.54 | Shir | can you make a 'Test' button for the Warning? |
| 17:36.20 | Antiarc|Work | Heh, I guess so. |
| 17:36.21 | Wobin | well that sucks |
| 17:36.21 | Shir | :) |
| 17:36.21 | Shir | should be like 10 seconds work orso ;D |
| 17:36.21 | jme | Antiarc|Work: can you add a train horn warning sound? :D |
| 17:36.38 | Wobin | "Look out, you're about to be run over by the Aggro Train"? |
| 17:36.39 | Industrial | and a waffle-making-machine plz |
| 17:36.43 | jme | Wobin: exactly |
| 17:36.44 | ckknight | syeren: pants. |
| 17:36.48 | Wobin | "Toot toot" |
| 17:36.49 | art3mis | mmmm waffles |
| 17:36.52 | kergoth | how does the prorated thing work? it only affects the first energy expendature when you arent yet in combat? is that in the notes, or an undocumented change? |
| 17:37.15 | Wobin | night! |
| 17:37.17 | Wobin | er |
| 17:37.18 | Wobin | day! |
| 17:37.25 | Industrial | nn |
| 17:37.26 | Antiarc|Work | Undocumented, and doesn't seem to affect druids. |
| 17:37.27 | Industrial | er |
| 17:37.29 | Industrial | dd |
| 17:37.37 | Wobin | cheaters =( |
| 17:37.49 | Shir | Antiarc|Work: when you do 'reset profile' you do not reset the 'Display' part of Omen is that intended? |
| 17:37.52 | CIA-22 | 03punkie * r44334 10pDebuffList/ (embeds.xml libs/ pDebuffList.toc): pDebuffList: *Goblin Jumper Cables* |
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| 17:38.18 | Antiarc|Work | Mmmm. Perhaps. I'll have to look. |
| 17:38.25 | Antiarc|Work | I might be using char instead of profile for display. |
| 17:38.42 | break19 | sylvanaar: ping |
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| 17:38.55 | sylvanaar | break19 pong |
| 17:38.57 | Shir | not sure, but when i do Skins -> Use Skin [Omen Default] it does reset it |
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| 17:39.15 | Shir | so depending on what you intended, you might want to load that skin on 'reset profile' |
| 17:39.51 | break19 | sylvanaar: hey, any plans to add custom positioning to the pitbull_prat? |
| 17:40.10 | break19 | like, if I want the chat bubble above the unit frame instead of beside it? |
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| 17:41.15 | sylvanaar | break19 i just did that for fun, you wanna take it over? |
| 17:41.26 | break19 | heh, wishful thinking |
| 17:41.36 | break19 | trust me.. you do NOT want me coding that. lol |
| 17:41.40 | sb | ckknight: mhm - it didnt... was counterspell on holy ;o |
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| 17:41.48 | break19 | a roomful of monkeys code better than me |
| 17:42.33 | Shir | Also not completely sure why you have the 'Skin Settings' section twice, why not give 'Display' the section Skins, put Classes into Skins (seems to be too far indented as it is now anyways) |
| 17:42.35 | ckknight | sb: wait, what? |
| 17:42.39 | break19 | and while I could possible hackify the code to move it to where I want, I honestly have no clue how to make it an option that can be selected.. |
| 17:42.49 | Shir | erm 'Classes' into 'Skin Settings' |
| 17:42.50 | Azurewrath | [Ammo]: you there? oRA2 does not seem to load the participant and leader modules when running unembedded/unpacked (using WAU2) |
| 17:43.00 | sylvanaar | ahah they fixed the chat bug with x-server |
| 17:43.48 | cncfanatics | sylvanaar, what does pitbull_prat even do ? |
| 17:44.08 | break19 | cncfanatics: chat bubbles on unit frames |
| 17:44.15 | sylvanaar | puts chat bubbles up at the unit frames |
| 17:44.29 | sb | ckknight: mhh - okay, it doesnt take GCD into account... |
| 17:44.36 | sb | but if you use your wand - it does |
| 17:44.47 | sb | after wand shot -> ready message for all spells |
| 17:44.54 | ckknight | hrm |
| 17:45.00 | ckknight | I'll get a caster and check |
| 17:45.03 | Antiarc|Work | The dwarf rogue bug is absolutely hilarious. |
| 17:45.14 | sb | ckknight: ptr? :p |
| 17:45.20 | break19 | Antiarc|Work: uhm? |
| 17:45.21 | Shir | btw the Pitbull GCD spark doesn't seems to be .. right :) |
| 17:45.28 | sylvanaar | its actually suprisingly useful |
| 17:45.30 | Antiarc|Work | Dwarf rogues are unattackable on the PTR |
| 17:45.32 | break19 | <- is a dwarf rogue.... |
| 17:45.33 | Antiarc|Work | So they're basically invincible |
| 17:45.35 | break19 | wooT |
| 17:45.46 | Shir | lol! now that is a feature |
| 17:45.48 | cncfanatics | how can that be usefull heh ? |
| 17:45.52 | break19 | bring it live dammit |
| 17:45.53 | jme | Antiarc|Work: ..... |
| 17:45.55 | jme | Antiarc|Work: wow |
| 17:45.57 | break19 | BRING IT LIVE! lol |
| 17:45.57 | Shir | solo any boss ? :) |
| 17:45.59 | Antiarc|Work | Five rogues solo Thrall: http://img178.imageshack.us/img178/3076/26925880xv3.jpg |
| 17:46.10 | ckknight | sb: no |
| 17:46.12 | break19 | why 5? couldnt 1 have done it? lol |
| 17:46.29 | jme | it would've taken longer? :/ |
| 17:46.36 | Shir | takes too long, they run oom |
| 17:46.44 | break19 | oom? |
| 17:46.48 | jme | ... |
| 17:46.59 | jme | rogues don't use mana :D |
| 17:47.05 | break19 | my rogue was born with no mana.. if you can tell me how to get some, I would be in your debt |
| 17:47.25 | Shir | YES IT WAS A BAD JOKE .. *cry* .. mean people |
| 17:47.33 | trh_ | you have 100 mana with a good regen :P |
| 17:47.39 | jme | Shir: oh =( |
| 17:47.40 | break19 | trh: wrong |
| 17:47.42 | trh_ | it's called energy |
| 17:47.42 | break19 | I have 110 :p |
| 17:47.46 | trh_ | but think of it as mana ;) |
| 17:47.51 | trh_ | break19: tssss |
| 17:48.01 | break19 | *flex* |
| 17:48.26 | break19 | 3 out of 5 druids that group with me go "wtf?! howd you get 110 energy?" |
| 17:48.44 | break19 | the other two just say "ah, mut builds ftw" |
| 17:48.52 | trh_ | hehe |
| 17:49.14 | sylvanaar | break i dont really understand how pitbull's frame positioning stuff works fully , you can always just edit your copy and move them |
| 17:49.20 | sylvanaar | cncfanatics ever play a healer? |
| 17:49.31 | Shir | healers use grid! and click2cast =D |
| 17:49.38 | Shir | or they should imho ;D |
| 17:49.43 | CIA-22 | 03damjau * r44335 10NextStep/ (NextStep.lua NextStep.toc): NextStep: add show shortages func. |
| 17:49.51 | break19 | sylvanaar: no worries.. you arent actively workin on it... I was just wondering if you were is all |
| 17:49.54 | CIA-22 | 03damjau * r44336 10simpleMinimap/localizations.lua: |
| 17:49.54 | CIA-22 | simpleMinimap: |
| 17:49.54 | CIA-22 | - update koKR locals |
| 17:49.54 | Undine | clique |
| 17:50.03 | Undine | but yes, grid is the roxor |
| 17:50.06 | break19 | clique > all click-to-cast addons |
| 17:50.15 | Shir | Undine: using that now but havent seen it been updating recently |
| 17:50.18 | CIA-22 | 03damjau * r44337 10FuBar_KillMeterFu/ (FuBar_KillMeterFu.toc KillMeterFuLocale-koKR.lua): FuBar_KillMeterFu - add koKR locals |
| 17:50.20 | break19 | oh, clad's afk.. no need to suck up |
| 17:50.27 | Shir | not that it is needed, Click RAWKS |
| 17:50.38 | Shir | Clique even - i just have 1 problem with that |
| 17:50.57 | Industrial | I play rogue with clique. |
| 17:51.00 | Industrial | (j/k) |
| 17:51.03 | Shir | the start of a fight is always a painintheass - OOC you want left/right mouse to do normal menus .. and ... it doesnt work :'( |
| 17:51.11 | break19 | Industrial: I do.. rightclick is blind :p |
| 17:51.16 | Industrial | lol |
| 17:51.23 | Antiarc|Work | Muahahaha |
| 17:51.28 | Antiarc|Work | Premade dwarf rogue copied to the PTR. |
| 17:51.37 | Shir | Undine: how did you solve that? :) |
| 17:51.44 | Shir | and you break19? :) |
| 17:52.06 | break19 | Shir: set up ctrl-rclick to be "show menu" |
| 17:52.10 | sylvanaar | i use alt-right click |
| 17:52.17 | break19 | and ctrl-click to be "target" |
| 17:52.39 | Shir | ah, you changed the default click .. mmm |
| 17:52.41 | Shir | gotto test that |
| 17:52.49 | Shir | but you all agree click2cast < clique? :) |
| 17:52.53 | break19 | shir: its under "custom" |
| 17:52.54 | cncfanatics | sylvanaar, i'm a paladin |
| 17:52.55 | Shir | then i wont even bother trying click2cast =D |
| 17:53.01 | break19 | clique > ALL |
| 17:53.18 | sylvanaar | cncfanatics if you look at the frames alot - you miss the chat |
| 17:53.29 | Shir | break19: yeah i did find it - i just sorted it diff - i kept it original and OOC my 'shift' which normally halves my heals now does full heals |
| 17:53.31 | jme | Antiarc|Work: go solo kael'thas |
| 17:53.31 | break19 | the setup routine for clique is so easy even a truck driver can do it.. |
| 17:53.34 | cncfanatics | sylvanaar, I mostly use nameplates |
| 17:53.41 | jme | Antiarc|Work: does the ptr have a t5 vendor? |
| 17:53.47 | Antiarc|Work | jme: I plan on trying to solo clear TKE tonight |
| 17:53.49 | Antiarc|Work | And I dunno |
| 17:53.56 | jme | Antiarc|Work: heh |
| 17:53.58 | Antiarc|Work | Actually |
| 17:54.05 | Antiarc|Work | I'm gonna get my guildmates to copy over premade rogues |
| 17:54.07 | sylvanaar | well, in that case, you can use blizzard's bubbles |
| 17:54.08 | Industrial | Shir: they are different. try both before damning one :P |
| 17:54.21 | Antiarc|Work | And we'll form Rogue Squadron |
| 17:54.26 | Shir | trying both takes eons of time i dont have :) |
| 17:54.31 | Antiarc|Work | And go solo instances and fraps it |
| 17:54.40 | Shir | Antiarc|Work: lol |
| 17:54.41 | Industrial | you are on irc talking about it tho. chop chop. |
| 17:54.44 | break19 | i got a 70 dorf rogue :p |
| 17:54.44 | Industrial | =D |
| 17:54.51 | Shir | Industrial: the only way to really try it is in a raid |
| 17:55.05 | Shir | therefor i have to set all up which is annoying :) |
| 17:55.15 | Industrial | fun, imho. :> |
| 17:55.22 | Shir | setting stuff up? O.o |
| 17:55.26 | Industrial | sure |
| 17:55.50 | Shir | i think rebuilding my ui would take me 5-6 hrs (including searching and remembering which addons i had :P) |
| 17:55.54 | Industrial | adding this removing that |
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| 17:56.20 | Shir | 303 dirs in my addon dir .. that cant be good O.o |
| 17:56.26 | cncfanatics | Shir, I can rebuild a quick & dirty UI in 30 mins |
| 17:56.29 | art3mis | boobies! yay \o/ |
| 17:56.31 | cncfanatics | in which I can raid just fine |
| 17:56.35 | cncfanatics | all the rest is just eyecandy |
| 17:56.40 | CIA-22 | 03damjau * r44338 10Prat/extras/PratFu.lua: Prat: - update koKR locals |
| 17:56.43 | Shir | cncfanatics: setting up grid takes longer than that =D |
| 17:56.46 | jme | ... |
| 17:56.48 | jme | no it doesn't |
| 17:56.50 | Industrial | I use 12 addons atm. 5 are my own |
| 17:57.06 | Industrial | jme: jmc? |
| 17:57.12 | jme | Industrial: who? |
| 17:57.13 | cncfanatics | 46 addons |
| 17:57.14 | Beastlyblood | so...who can help me with some addons... I'm having a minor issue |
| 17:57.15 | Industrial | you? |
| 17:57.18 | jme | Industrial: me? |
| 17:57.21 | Industrial | yes? |
| 17:57.22 | cncfanatics | including blizzard_ ones |
| 17:57.24 | jme | Industrial: i am me |
| 17:57.26 | Shir | Beastlyblood: shout! |
| 17:57.26 | Industrial | ok |
| 17:57.30 | art3mis | industrial: the other 7 are made by the homeless guy you keep in your basment for when bum fights goes high tech? |
| 17:57.36 | jme | Industrial: i know not of this jmc, are you thinking about mjc? |
| 17:57.44 | Industrial | doh |
| 17:57.49 | Industrial | jme: yes ^^ |
| 17:57.52 | jme | Industrial: :D |
| 17:57.59 | Beastlyblood | shout? |
| 17:58.10 | Shir | your question :D |
| 17:58.12 | Esteth | Hey all. I'm attempting to donwnload the ace2 branch of KC_Items with TortoiseSVN, only when i attempt to "import" the branch using tortoiseSVN, i get asked for a username and password :S |
| 17:58.22 | Industrial | art3mis: bagnin bongos doublewidw idchat/minimap/other/questautomation msbt wdnstatpanels wowlua |
| 17:58.39 | *** join/#wowace gnor (n=jaydee@cpe-76-81-38-253.socal.res.rr.com) |
| 17:58.42 | jme | questautomation? |
| 17:58.46 | NightHawkAtWork | Esteth: you don't want import, you want checkout or export |
| 17:58.46 | Antiarc|Work | Esteth: Use svn., not dev. |
| 17:58.57 | Industrial | idother just moves the default unitframes under the char |
| 17:58.58 | art3mis | wdnstat? |
| 17:59.02 | Industrial | jme: industrial.wowintreface.com |
| 17:59.09 | Industrial | art3mis: by beladona on wowi |
| 17:59.15 | Beastlyblood | Well, the only problem I can see is during combat I can't see spell durations or and spell info by mousing over the spells on my actionbars |
| 17:59.17 | art3mis | whats it do? |
| 17:59.21 | Industrial | ugh the typos. more caffeine pls |
| 17:59.24 | Esteth | NightHawkAtWork: ok, ill try that :). Antiarc: I don't understand :S |
| 17:59.35 | art3mis | just a panel maker? |
| 17:59.37 | Industrial | art3mis: tiny bars for exp rep and durability. quite sexy looking |
| 17:59.50 | art3mis | oh yeah ive seen that |
| 18:00.02 | art3mis | that ricos minimap? |
| 18:00.04 | Industrial | guess i can live without |
| 18:00.10 | Industrial | DELETORED |
| 18:00.26 | Beastlyblood | Does anyone know how to fix that? |
| 18:00.28 | Industrial | I'm gunna try eepanels now |
| 18:00.35 | *** join/#wowace chuckg (i=chuckg@66-239-58-32.starstream.net) |
| 18:00.40 | art3mis | its not bad |
| 18:00.50 | art3mis | just a pain that it doesnt do percentage scaling |
| 18:01.04 | art3mis | and prefers absolute pixel size |
| 18:01.17 | Industrial | isnt all scaling percentages =D? |
| 18:01.26 | art3mis | and doesnt have drag sizing ;P |
| 18:01.34 | art3mis | heh you know what i mean ;P |
| 18:01.40 | Industrial | ^^ |
| 18:01.53 | Beastlyblood | so...nobody can help me with my problem? |
| 18:02.15 | art3mis | have you tried asking Dr.Sbaitso? |
| 18:02.17 | break19 | no |
| 18:02.22 | break19 | you havent asked the question |
| 18:02.27 | break19 | so no.. no one can help |
| 18:02.34 | Industrial | break19: he did look up |
| 18:02.41 | break19 | i scrolled to see... |
| 18:02.43 | Beastlyblood | yeah, scroll up a bit |
| 18:02.48 | art3mis | industrial check out ricosminimap too if you havent |
| 18:02.52 | ramoz | i found a bug in automaton :O |
| 18:02.52 | break19 | it musta gotten lost in the gobbledygook |
| 18:02.55 | Industrial | Beastlyblood: try disabling 50% of your addons cept the actionbars, and repeat that until youve found the causing addon |
| 18:02.58 | art3mis | its got all sorts of groovy features |
| 18:03.00 | Industrial | art3mis: k |
| 18:03.08 | Industrial | I have idMinimap tho :3 |
| 18:03.22 | Beastlyblood | agh.... must I? |
| 18:03.33 | Industrial | Beastlyblood: its not that bad |
| 18:03.38 | Industrial | use MCP |
| 18:03.40 | break19 | Beastlyblood: what bar addons? |
| 18:03.42 | Beastlyblood | MCP? |
| 18:03.42 | art3mis | does it let you move it and make it square and crop the surrounding graphics and show your location? |
| 18:03.52 | break19 | or acp |
| 18:04.00 | Beastlyblood | I use Fubar |
| 18:04.11 | weab | ramoz: did you want to share what this alleged bug was, or should i go back to what i was doing? |
| 18:04.13 | art3mis | and then take you out for a beer and reminise about the old days with you? |
| 18:04.15 | break19 | thats not an actiobar addon |
| 18:04.23 | Beastlyblood | oh oh oh Bongos |
| 18:04.28 | Industrial | art3mis: hehe |
| 18:04.45 | break19 | is there an option to "hide tooltips in combat" ? |
| 18:04.52 | break19 | or are you using any tooltip addons? |
| 18:04.53 | Industrial | art3mis: where can I find it? |
| 18:05.00 | art3mis | tis on wowace |
| 18:05.16 | art3mis | one sec ill find the real name of it ;P |
| 18:05.21 | Industrial | k :> |
| 18:05.25 | *** join/#wowace kergoth (n=kergoth@neutrino.joshua-colp.com) |
| 18:05.27 | Industrial | (hint) |
| 18:05.34 | Beastlyblood | uhh... tooltips? sry im n00b to addons |
| 18:05.42 | art3mis | Rico MiniMap |
| 18:06.17 | break19 | Beastlyblood: tooltips.. the little windows that pop up when you mouse over stuff |
| 18:06.47 | break19 | do you have any addons that modify them from the blizzard default in any way, shape or form. |
| 18:07.05 | Beastlyblood | checking... |
| 18:07.33 | Beastlyblood | yes Auctioneer |
| 18:07.42 | break19 | well.. that shouldnt do it.. |
| 18:08.08 | break19 | im not familiar with bongos, as I use bartender3... but is there an option somewhere to hide tooltips while in combat? |
| 18:08.15 | *** join/#wowace Dustwhisper (n=ask@78.80-202-20.nextgentel.com) |
| 18:08.38 | art3mis | heh i leeched this collection of ppc files for my ipaq |
| 18:08.55 | Beastlyblood | i'll check, but what about Mob Info 2 |
| 18:08.56 | art3mis | and under assorted games is listed Concise Encyclopedia |
| 18:09.05 | art3mis | how is that a game? |
| 18:09.23 | Beastlyblood | It changes my tooltips for items that I have in actionbars |
| 18:09.51 | Dustwhisper | Is there anyway to have something bound to a double tap of a button? |
| 18:09.54 | break19 | art3mis: quickly! tell me 5 gems of knowledge about glass |
| 18:10.01 | break19 | art3mis: there.. now its a game |
| 18:10.32 | Industrial | art3mis: http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/fileinfo.php?id=7140 |
| 18:10.53 | Shir | break19: mm not that i know of from the top of my head |
| 18:11.00 | Shir | would be a nice feature indeed |
| 18:11.03 | Dustwhisper | how do I add a macroline that casts a spell if ctrl is held when the buttons hotkey is pressed again? |
| 18:11.16 | art3mis | woo! |
| 18:11.29 | art3mis | thats almost like the boobies link for a right answer on the lua.api wiki ;P |
| 18:11.40 | break19 | heh |
| 18:11.48 | Beastlyblood | ok, well I'm not having any luck.... |
| 18:12.07 | break19 | Beastlyblood: i cannot think of anything. |
| 18:12.40 | *** part/#wowace Pkekyo|cookieplz (i=bsm89mod@062016163113.customer.alfanett.no) |
| 18:12.50 | art3mis | indust: heh yeah that lack of being a square makes that entire addon lame ;P |
| 18:13.05 | Industrial | I dont like square |
| 18:13.06 | Industrial | :> |
| 18:13.15 | break19 | art3mis: simpleminimap ricominimap |
| 18:13.16 | art3mis | hehe it fits better in my panels ;P |
| 18:13.20 | art3mis | ricominimap |
| 18:14.06 | Morghus | Anyone know a macro, or addon, or script that I can use to destroy soulshards with? =) |
| 18:14.22 | *** join/#wowace wowace (n=fortuent@c-71-59-136-81.hsd1.or.comcast.net) |
| 18:14.24 | Matrix110 | This well known warlock addon |
| 18:14.28 | Matrix110 | sphere thingy |
| 18:14.32 | break19 | garbagefu - add soulshards to the "trash" thing |
| 18:14.33 | Matrix110 | Necro smth |
| 18:14.47 | wowace | Hi, I have a question for a forums site admin |
| 18:14.54 | Dustwhisper | btw what causes Recount to have a completely blank frame? |
| 18:14.56 | Industrial | wowace: ops |
| 18:14.59 | Dustwhisper | that seems completely bugged |
| 18:15.03 | wowace | is anyone that handles that on? |
| 18:15.33 | ckknight | wowace: change your name |
| 18:15.34 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r44339 10Parrot/ (CombatEvents.lua TriggerConditions.lua Triggers.lua): Parrot - convert triggers and combat events from Title Case to Sentence case. Put a check in so that DBs don't break. |
| 18:15.41 | ckknight | wowace: then I'll talk to you |
| 18:15.44 | *** part/#wowace Esteth (n=Esteth@82-41-126-112.cable.ubr01.glen.blueyonder.co.uk) |
| 18:16.22 | wowace | i dont know how to do that, i don't use irc, but their was no email contact |
| 18:16.31 | Antiarc|Work | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:16.42 | fortuente | ok |
| 18:16.52 | fortuente | thanks too btw |
| 18:16.53 | ckknight | so what's the issue? |
| 18:17.04 | Dustwhisper | having a bug with Recount, Recount-$Revision: 44110 $\GUI_Detail.lua:1: Cannot find a library instance of Graph-1.0. |
| 18:17.06 | Dustwhisper | wtf is that? |
| 18:17.18 | break19 | it means you dont have that lib |
| 18:17.20 | omega | Dustwhisper: its what draws the pie charts etc |
| 18:17.21 | fortuente | i have been banned from the forums for spam, but i dont think i've made even one post from their |
| 18:17.43 | Matrix110 | You are missing Graph-1.0 Dustwhisper get it from files.wowace.com :P |
| 18:18.38 | Dustwhisper | Maybe that's why recount is failing so bad |
| 18:18.42 | Dustwhisper | but id think recount isntalled that itself |
| 18:18.53 | Dustwhisper | just put graph-1.0 in the root addons folder? |
| 18:19.04 | Matrix110 | yes |
| 18:19.07 | Matrix110 | but its named |
| 18:19.08 | Matrix110 | GraphLib |
| 18:19.10 | break19 | perhaps the author forgot to set it as an include.. yea.. |
| 18:19.13 | break19 | doesnt matter |
| 18:19.28 | break19 | it'll register as the proper lib |
| 18:19.56 | Matrix110 | break19 i meant if he searches it on files :P |
| 18:21.13 | CIA-22 | 03damjau * r44340 10WhoDrop/WhoDropData_Drop.lua: WhoDrop - fix data |
| 18:22.16 | Mecdemort | hmm is there a way to change a directory's name on the svn /trunk |
| 18:23.17 | ramoz | weab: yeah - went into a av. anyway, when ever i autoqueue for a BG i doesn't close the BG window properly - its there but you cant see it |
| 18:24.00 | ramoz | but there's a new rev out now - maybe its fixed there |
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| 18:25.34 | NeoTron | killed leotheras last week.. spent all last night wiping on him :( |
| 18:25.35 | cncfanatics | ~seen Nargiddley |
| 18:25.38 | purl | nargiddley <n=narg@203-97-236-74.cable.telstraclear.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 2d 10h 43m 46s ago, saying: 'cncfanatics'. |
| 18:25.51 | *** part/#wowace Beastlyblood (n=sampsboy@ppp-70-253-157-16.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net) |
| 18:26.05 | cncfanatics | lethreras reminds me of battlegird sartura |
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| 18:26.12 | cncfanatics | s/battlegird/battleguard |
| 18:26.19 | cncfanatics | bleh forgot ending slash, but u get the picture :p |
| 18:26.49 | NeoTron | partial stupidity, partial bad luck |
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| 18:28.29 | *** part/#wowace fortuente (n=fortuent@c-71-59-136-81.hsd1.or.comcast.net) |
| 18:28.48 | CIA-22 | 03mecdemort * r44341 10BigWigs_WaveTimers/WaveTimers.lua: BigWigs_WaveTimers:-Removed bug where timers show when boss dies. |
| 18:29.57 | jme | i hate php :( |
| 18:29.58 | jme | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:30.09 | jme | http://pastey.net/71107 |
| 18:30.21 | ckknight | okay, so fortuente was banned for spamming viagra spam, he said he didn't, so I suggested he had a virus or trojan, and he refused to accept that and ended up yelling at me and getting into a hissy fit |
| 18:30.25 | ckknight | ...bah |
| 18:30.27 | jme | function mdfour() around 322 returns different values for the $out variable on two different machines :( |
| 18:30.37 | Mecdemort | is there a way to add tsvn:logtemplate to the config file so it automatically is added |
| 18:31.01 | jme | yes php is offtopic but hey, worth a shot :D |
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| 18:32.45 | zac | ckknight: in leu of a parrot wishlist, any plans to add a trigger event for something like "Spell Resist" so I can have a pretty obvious (large) warning when a soulshatter resists? |
| 18:35.26 | CIA-22 | 03kemayo * r44342 10Quixote/Quixote-1.0/Quixote-1.0.lua: Quixote: Replace a newSet with new, add slightly better handling for comms with older revisions. |
| 18:35.59 | ckknight | zac: hrm... seems viable |
| 18:36.21 | art3mis | ckk |
| 18:36.25 | art3mis | can i have a pony? |
| 18:36.37 | zac | or, at least, the ability to sticky a "spell resist" in the outgoing area - it seems outgoing events can't be stickied? |
| 18:36.46 | *** join/#wowace Kjellviz (n=opera@c213-89-100-240.bredband.comhem.se) |
| 18:37.01 | ckknight | zac: nah, those stickies are handled by whether they're crits or not |
| 18:37.13 | zac | ahh. shame :( |
| 18:37.28 | ckknight | I'll be adding a trigger |
| 18:37.33 | break19 | forget a pony.. give me a few hundred of em, all boxed up and ready to go: Viper |
| 18:37.34 | zac | sounds good :) |
| 18:37.54 | art3mis | break you watch pinks? |
| 18:38.00 | break19 | hm? |
| 18:38.06 | art3mis | tv show |
| 18:38.13 | break19 | heh, guess not |
| 18:38.14 | Kjellviz | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:38.15 | art3mis | heh |
| 18:38.26 | art3mis | its basically legalized street racing for pink slips |
| 18:38.29 | art3mis | its awesome |
| 18:38.37 | art3mis | soooooooo many nice old school muscle cars |
| 18:38.39 | Kjellviz | i was wondering if anyone know of a addon that simply make a copy of minimap and scale it ? |
| 18:38.48 | Kjellviz | i want my minimap small when im playin |
| 18:38.53 | Kjellviz | but when farming mines |
| 18:38.57 | Kjellviz | i want it biiiig |
| 18:38.59 | Kjellviz | ^^ |
| 18:38.59 | break19 | considering yesterday I called and had my satellite turned back on.. it's been off since august of last year... I havent watched much tv in almost a year. lol |
| 18:39.04 | art3mis | most of the minimap addons can drawscale i think |
| 18:39.06 | jme | Kjellviz: install simpleminimap, you can manually scale it |
| 18:39.13 | jme | or what art3mis said |
| 18:39.23 | art3mis | err dragscale |
| 18:39.31 | jme | can sMM dragscale? |
| 18:39.42 | art3mis | dunno i know rico and squeeniz can |
| 18:39.42 | Kjellviz | jme: scaling it aint the problem, i need a addon that opens another copy of minimap |
| 18:39.47 | Kjellviz | if its possible |
| 18:39.58 | jme | Kjellviz: i haven't seen anything like that |
| 18:40.05 | art3mis | oh nope kjell |
| 18:40.18 | art3mis | i believe only one is created so no-one ever bthered making a duplciate |
| 18:40.43 | Kjellviz | ok, well it would be a great addon ^^ |
| 18:40.48 | art3mis | why? |
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| 18:41.09 | Kjellviz | cos my minimap is way to small to use when i look for mines |
| 18:41.16 | art3mis | OH |
| 18:41.20 | Kjellviz | but perfect in size for playing normally |
| 18:41.24 | art3mis | you mean a ascaled fullsized map |
| 18:41.35 | Kjellviz | so to have a 2nd minimap that i could bring up only when looking for ores |
| 18:41.41 | break19 | art3mis: I'd never race for pinks.. legal or not.. if I lose transportation, I have no way to get to work.. I'm too far out for bus.. cabs take forever to get here, and I can make 4 trips on what a cabbie would charge to take me to work once.. |
| 18:41.47 | art3mis | so it behaves like a magnifying glass |
| 18:41.49 | Mech0z | What is it the mod is called that shows quest notes from wowhead? |
| 18:41.56 | Mech0z | comments... |
| 18:42.00 | break19 | Mech0z: lightheaded |
| 18:42.00 | durcyn | just use cartographer alt-mode |
| 18:42.02 | *** join/#wowace Yasuo (n=Yasuo@dslb-088-072-238-237.pools.arcor-ip.net) |
| 18:42.06 | Mech0z | ok |
| 18:42.14 | Mech0z | durcyn how does that work? |
| 18:42.19 | Kjellviz | durcyn: it doesent show nodes from tracking |
| 18:42.21 | durcyn | not you, arrtemis |
| 18:42.26 | Kjellviz | durcyn: only from notes |
| 18:42.26 | Mech0z | ok |
| 18:42.27 | durcyn | or whoever was asking. |
| 18:42.33 | art3mis | break: hehe last weekend they had a CRX vs a 69 nova for 10k$ |
| 18:42.49 | art3mis | the crx was the FIRST import to EVER make it to the finals |
| 18:43.02 | Mech0z | isnt lightheaded ace2 ? |
| 18:43.03 | deltron | ...crx? |
| 18:43.06 | deltron | Mech0z: no |
| 18:43.08 | durcyn | Mech0z: nope, why does it matter? |
| 18:43.11 | art3mis | the short backed honda things |
| 18:43.13 | durcyn | http://cladhaire.wowinterface.com |
| 18:43.15 | Yasuo | moin |
| 18:43.15 | Mech0z | woaceupdater ftw :( |
| 18:43.19 | art3mis | looks like a roller skate |
| 18:43.23 | durcyn | and i don't want to hear any bullshit about the stupid updater |
| 18:43.28 | break19 | of course, if my mother still had her 1970 GS..... I'd race that in a heartbeat. heh |
| 18:43.33 | art3mis | heh |
| 18:43.54 | art3mis | watching a 2005 porsche get killed by a 71 camaro was pretty rad too ;P |
| 18:43.56 | jme | potentially noob question... if i'm locked in a raidid for something, as long as the raid leader has a different id, i can get in on his instance, right? |
| 18:44.06 | durcyn | jme: Nope. |
| 18:44.10 | deltron | no |
| 18:44.14 | Josh_Borke | Mech0z: add it as a favorite on wowi |
| 18:44.16 | jme | ah |
| 18:44.16 | durcyn | jme: you always enter your saved ID, period. |
| 18:44.19 | art3mis | it was pinks all out so no car loss, just have to race balls out for a 10k prize |
| 18:44.25 | deltron | cascading has been gone for aages |
| 18:44.29 | jme | ok |
| 18:44.32 | Josh_Borke | Mech0z: you can be emailed when it is updated |
| 18:44.33 | art3mis | its a great show |
| 18:44.43 | break19 | 455cu.in. V8, 3spd auto with limited-slip.. fatties on the rear.. speedometer read 150.. no idea how fast it went.. when it starts hitting the backstop at 0, I backed out of it |
| 18:44.45 | art3mis | they had sleds last night |
| 18:44.47 | Kjellviz | ill sum up, id want a second minimap, openable by clicking a button on regular minimap for instance, this 2nd minimap should be scaleable and movable and would be used only when farming for ore/herbs |
| 18:44.58 | Mech0z | year but I just wanna start my comp, run aceupdater and run game :/ |
| 18:45.01 | Mech0z | dont wanna check mail |
| 18:45.11 | Kjellviz | basically like he said, a zoomed version of the minimap |
| 18:45.17 | jme | so basically if i'm in one kara id from my guild's run i can't pug it again this week :/ |
| 18:45.22 | durcyn | Mech0z: so write your oown updater script that scrapes wowinterface. laziness is no excuse. |
| 18:45.25 | durcyn | own* |
| 18:45.49 | Mech0z | my charplaner takes enough of my time tbh |
| 18:45.56 | Mech0z | now that ct profiles dont work anymore... |
| 18:47.16 | break19 | art3mis: even with the fats on the rear, and limited slip.. if you punched it from a dead stop, you'd go nowhere fast.... |
| 18:47.31 | art3mis | heheh |
| 18:47.47 | break19 | but the people behind ya wouldnt be able to see... |
| 18:47.50 | art3mis | my friend had a 70 buik skylark |
| 18:47.51 | Mech0z | SO durcyn if you got any spare time and some c# knowledge them Iam looking for people to my little project :) |
| 18:47.56 | art3mis | it was awesome |
| 18:48.03 | Josh_Borke | ~wuu |
| 18:48.03 | purl | wuu is probably a WoW UI Updater - Updates your WoW addons automagically from WoWAce, WoWI, Cosmos, and CurseGaming sites. Homepage is http://wuu.vagabonds.info/ |
| 18:48.07 | Josh_Borke | Mech0z: there |
| 18:48.20 | durcyn | Mech0z: nope. if i was going to write a wowi parser i'd probably do it in perl |
| 18:48.22 | art3mis | pizza cutters on the front 454 big block v8 4bbl slicks ont eh back dual exhaust glasspacks |
| 18:48.37 | Mech0z | Josh_Borke ? |
| 18:48.39 | durcyn | in the mean time you will not hear my kvetch about something not being in silly wau |
| 18:48.43 | durcyn | way is damage, route around it. |
| 18:48.51 | art3mis | hes since dropped his skylarkphase and has 4 69challengers and chargers |
| 18:48.54 | break19 | art3mis: yea.. 1970 GranSport... I could turn a full 360 in 10s from a dead stop..and end up almost where I started. heh |
| 18:49.08 | Mech0z | durcyn it is not the time yet for me to engage perl |
| 18:49.14 | *** join/#wowace KarlThePagan (n=andross@lanip-170-65.go180.net) |
| 18:49.14 | *** mode/#wowace [+v KarlThePagan] by ChanServ |
| 18:49.20 | Mech0z | starting computer science this fall, then we will see if I ever touch it |
| 18:49.24 | cncfanatics | C# ftl |
| 18:49.27 | durcyn | Mech0z: why not? LWP makes it easy |
| 18:49.27 | break19 | art3mis: it had the RamAir intake, too. :) |
| 18:49.29 | cncfanatics | cant run any of that on linux |
| 18:49.36 | art3mis | oooo |
| 18:49.39 | durcyn | cncfanatics: mono. :( |
| 18:49.47 | cncfanatics | didnt work last time I tried |
| 18:49.49 | Mech0z | LWP? |
| 18:49.52 | trh_ | cncfanatics: mono works fine |
| 18:49.52 | Mech0z | cncfanatics why? |
| 18:49.58 | Mech0z | Its pretty easy to start out with |
| 18:50.03 | art3mis | ~wap |
| 18:50.03 | purl | methinks wap is a Wireless Access Point or Wireless Application Protocol |
| 18:50.12 | art3mis | ~waup |
| 18:50.13 | break19 | yea.. it wasnt a GSX, just a GS with the ramair option.. basically a gsx without the fancy interior |
| 18:50.14 | durcyn | Mech0z: libwww-perl |
| 18:50.15 | Josh_Borke | Mech0z: wuu updates from both wowace and wowi |
| 18:50.18 | ckknight | cncfanatics: I've done a lot of C# work on Linux |
| 18:50.28 | trh_ | cncfanatics: and c# is a fine language.. have yet to know a other language that nice :) |
| 18:50.36 | Josh_Borke | C |
| 18:50.50 | Shir | perl ftw |
| 18:51.01 | trh_ | a real language, no interpreter stuff :) |
| 18:51.03 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r44343 10Parrot/Display.lua: Parrot_Display - add a global transparency setting. |
| 18:51.11 | Shir | anything you have to compile sucks by default =D |
| 18:51.17 | break19 | her dad bought it new for her in 1970, and I learned to drive in it, took my roadtest in it, too, back in 93. heh |
| 18:51.18 | durcyn | the only reason to hate C# is because it's microsoft's broken reimplimentation of java with all the suck and none of the open.. |
| 18:51.21 | art3mis | c# almost always makes me think of that guy singing the berserker song in clerks |
| 18:51.22 | durcyn | oh wait, that's a great reason. |
| 18:51.27 | ckknight | trh_: interpretation doesn't make a language any less real |
| 18:51.28 | sylvanaar | molol |
| 18:51.31 | art3mis | would you be to making fuck, berserker! |
| 18:51.36 | Dustwhisper | for omen it would be great if you could Create a bar based on name instead of dragging it out |
| 18:51.43 | Shir | ckknight: indeed :) |
| 18:51.44 | jme | durcyn: lolol |
| 18:51.50 | ckknight | durcyn: I don't see how it's broken... at all |
| 18:51.53 | Dustwhisper | who wrote Expiration btw? |
| 18:52.03 | trh_ | ckknight: true, but it's different |
| 18:52.06 | trh_ | durcyn: not true |
| 18:52.13 | ckknight | durcyn: also, the language and specs are standardized through ECMA |
| 18:52.26 | sylvanaar | C# is compiled at runtime |
| 18:52.30 | cncfanatics | ckknight, most simply doesnt work tho :/ |
| 18:52.36 | cncfanatics | at least, wuu doesnt |
| 18:52.44 | trh_ | durcyn: the only thing c# took from java is the object stuff |
| 18:53.02 | trh_ | durcyn: (garbage collection and that everything has to be in objects) |
| 18:53.05 | ckknight | trh_: at what point must compilation occur for a language to be real? |
| 18:53.15 | ckknight | before running? |
| 18:53.19 | sylvanaar | idk probably |
| 18:53.27 | sylvanaar | before writing |
| 18:53.28 | ckknight | at the start of running? |
| 18:53.35 | ckknight | throughout running? |
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| 18:53.44 | sag_ich_nicht | Antiarc|Work |
| 18:53.45 | trh_ | ckknight: ok.. let's just say it needs binary files :) |
| 18:53.48 | sag_ich_nicht | threat-1.0 or omen broke |
| 18:53.59 | ckknight | trh_: lua can be compiled to binary files, python too, etc. |
| 18:54.03 | sag_ich_nicht | after zoning the threat for one self is not displayed anymore |
| 18:54.14 | sylvanaar | actually, you can precompile the .NET stuff |
| 18:54.15 | ckknight | cause I mean, based on when you want compilation, you can JIT scripting languages to machine code |
| 18:54.27 | ckknight | sylvanaar: AOT compilation :-) |
| 18:54.33 | sylvanaar | you nust ngen install <name of program> |
| 18:54.41 | trh_ | ckknight: sure, but it isn't usually done |
| 18:55.10 | ckknight | but it can be quite easily, and as time progresses, it will become more and more standard |
| 18:55.15 | sylvanaar | s/nust n/just 'ngen/ |
| 18:55.21 | sylvanaar | lol |
| 18:55.27 | sylvanaar | forget it |
| 18:56.28 | sag_ich_nicht | ~stab Antiarc |
| 18:56.28 | purl | ACTION runs at Antiarc with an origami Swiss Army knife, and inflicts a nasty paper cut. |
| 18:56.35 | trh_ | sylvanaar: but it should only influence startup time =) |
| 18:56.56 | sylvanaar | yep, native compiled code, and JIT can do optimizations that are only possible at runtime |
| 18:57.22 | sylvanaar | trh_ right |
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| 18:58.05 | trh_ | anyway.. c# is a very nice language.. and everyone flaming it probably didn't wrote more than a "Hello World" in it or is a puristic c/c++/asm freak :P |
| 18:58.19 | sylvanaar | its not 1999 and java 1 <--- that was sad |
| 18:58.30 | ckknight | hrm? |
| 18:59.31 | sylvanaar | i was anti-c# till i did a project using it at work - now i call it a luxury language |
| 19:00.07 | Ordog | compared to C(++)? definately |
| 19:00.08 | Ordog | :) |
| 19:00.13 | sylvanaar | yeah |
| 19:00.31 | trh_ | i like the accessor stuff so much in c# :) |
| 19:00.31 | sylvanaar | or even java |
| 19:00.51 | trh_ | it just makes accessing object attributes so nice compared to java |
| 19:01.07 | sylvanaar | its got so much sugar |
| 19:01.13 | trh_ | yep.. operator overloading |
| 19:01.20 | trh_ | always missed it in java so much |
| 19:01.24 | sylvanaar | nullable non-reference types |
| 19:01.29 | trh_ | yep |
| 19:01.33 | sylvanaar | thats nice |
| 19:01.48 | art3mis | sylvanaar writes everyone in Turbo Pascal 3.0 |
| 19:01.54 | art3mis | erreverything |
| 19:01.56 | trh_ | although the delegate/event stuff could have been a bit easier.. compared to Observer/Observable in java |
| 19:02.02 | trh_ | but once you understood it it's pretty nice |
| 19:02.11 | sylvanaar | lol pascal = ok convert one structure to another |
| 19:02.14 | art3mis | ckk is more a purist cobol person ;P |
| 19:02.27 | trh_ | nice thing about pascal was that it was a 1-pass compiler |
| 19:02.41 | sylvanaar | why was that nice |
| 19:02.48 | trh_ | fast compiling :) |
| 19:02.52 | sylvanaar | haha |
| 19:02.56 | art3mis | hah |
| 19:03.10 | art3mis | man that language ruled! it compiled SOOOOO fast! |
| 19:03.16 | trh_ | hehe |
| 19:03.21 | trh_ | the language itself wasn't too bad |
| 19:03.23 | Lyfe | you mean you have issues with the 17k passes c++ needs? ;) |
| 19:03.28 | sylvanaar | i remember when you could go have lunch during a build |
| 19:03.30 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r44345 10Parrot/CombatEvents.lua: Parrot_CombatEvents - allow for arbitrary category registration, for 3rd-party addons. |
| 19:04.04 | art3mis | syl: slackware 1.2.13 kernel compile on a 386dx40 with 16megs of ram was a start the compile and go to bed, go to school come home and hope it was finished ;P |
| 19:04.14 | kergoth | hehe, i remember that |
| 19:04.19 | trh_ | they built a java->native compiler with 1-pass at our university.. it's pretty fast... but damn.. you got so many limitations it makes code look very very ugly ;) |
| 19:04.27 | kergoth | only to discover after coming home from school that you forgot to enable something |
| 19:04.29 | kergoth | rinse, repeat |
| 19:04.35 | art3mis | and heaven help you if you got a lint setting wrong ;) |
| 19:04.37 | art3mis | hahah yeah |
| 19:04.45 | trh_ | like you can't declare variables inside a other scope than at function beginning |
| 19:04.56 | ckknight | kergoth: hey, you made MSBTLoot |
| 19:05.12 | art3mis | what is msbt? |
| 19:05.16 | kergoth | long ago, yep, its now LootAlert since it works with uierrorsframe and sct |
| 19:05.21 | ckknight | combat text addon |
| 19:05.21 | art3mis | imacronym retarded today |
| 19:05.23 | kergoth | ~msbt |
| 19:05.24 | purl | msbt is, like, Mikord's Scrolling Battle Text, a possible SCT replacement, found at http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info5153-2.0.html |
| 19:05.24 | deltron | mikk's something? |
| 19:05.33 | trh_ | msbt always sounds like a acronym for the microsoft bluetooth stack ;) |
| 19:05.39 | kergoth | i should try parrot, havent yet |
| 19:05.43 | kergoth | its like msbt right? |
| 19:05.48 | ckknight | yea, very similar to msbt |
| 19:05.52 | kergoth | cool |
| 19:05.57 | ckknight | more extensible, though |
| 19:06.02 | art3mis | so similar you could say its just renamed ;P |
| 19:06.07 | ckknight | no, it's not |
| 19:06.10 | ckknight | there's no code sharing |
| 19:06.16 | ckknight | it's a clean-room clone |
| 19:06.33 | art3mis | heh |
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| 19:09.50 | [Liquidor] | ckknight is a clean-room clone |
| 19:11.42 | cncfanatics | how much does everyone love microsoft ? |
| 19:11.45 | cncfanatics | ~microsoft |
| 19:11.46 | purl | "The day Microsoft makes something that doesn't suck is the day they start making vacuum cleaners." |
| 19:13.07 | trh_ | i don't think anyone loves them |
| 19:13.20 | sylvanaar | MS usually takes somone else's innovation and makes it productizes/sells it |
| 19:13.22 | cncfanatics | purl says it all |
| 19:13.28 | cncfanatics | sylvanaar |
| 19:13.33 | trh_ | but most people use their software.. because apparently it doesn't suck as much as other software or is better useable |
| 19:13.34 | cncfanatics | microsoft has some of its own inovations |
| 19:13.37 | cncfanatics | i'll give an example |
| 19:13.38 | Mech0z | sylvanaar they see what works and uses that |
| 19:13.39 | cncfanatics | ~DRM |
| 19:13.40 | purl | i heard drm is a cool new video card feature in the 2.4 kernel -- http://precisioninsight.com/dr/drm.html or the Direct Rendering Module, or called Direct Rendering Manager. "an acronym for "Digital Rights Management" ", or http://www.microsoft.com/windows/windowsmedia/drm.asp ... the best big black-caca from the ass of gates Just Say No(TM), or better known as ... |
| 19:13.51 | RogueShadow | Microsoft wouldn't let anybody sell thier software unless it was exclusive. |
| 19:13.53 | RogueShadow | That's why |
| 19:13.53 | sylvanaar | the shrink wrapped liscense was an MS innovation |
| 19:14.09 | [Liquidor] | My UI is complete \o> (partly): http://i19.tinypic.com/6hgvymx.jpg -- Imageshack is down atm and I cba to start using photobucket tho, so tinypic it is for the moment. |
| 19:14.15 | RogueShadow | They either had to have Every PC microsoft, or none. |
| 19:14.29 | cncfanatics | they'll never manage that :p |
| 19:14.36 | cncfanatics | and tbh, my debian > xp |
| 19:14.39 | trh_ | RogueShadow: that was a long time ago |
| 19:14.45 | RogueShadow | Yes |
| 19:14.50 | RogueShadow | But it was more than enough to give them a HUGE lead |
| 19:14.55 | sylvanaar | MS is good at making software that people will buy |
| 19:15.21 | cncfanatics | thats called marketing |
| 19:15.27 | sylvanaar | yep |
| 19:15.52 | art3mis | you mean microsfot was good at making software that was simple when there was none ;) |
| 19:15.52 | trh_ | the software MS does isn't really that bad |
| 19:15.52 | cncfanatics | they're good at selling buckets of shit :p agree |
| 19:15.53 | cncfanatics | trh8 |
| 19:15.56 | art3mis | i kind of wish someone would make an exchangish clone for nix though |
| 19:15.57 | trh_ | cncfanatics: that's BS... you're one of those linux trolls |
| 19:16.00 | cncfanatics | compare it with some of the open source stuff around |
| 19:16.07 | deltron | art3mis: evolution? |
| 19:16.09 | trh_ | cncfanatics: ok... windows <-> linux |
| 19:16.13 | cncfanatics | open source stuff is mostly stabler, but, its not as user friendly |
| 19:16.14 | art3mis | deltron: not a client a server |
| 19:16.21 | trh_ | cncfanatics: windows wins.. linux is unusable for the average-user |
| 19:16.22 | deltron | oh |
| 19:16.27 | cncfanatics | trh_, yep |
| 19:16.27 | RogueShadow | There's Software that's good. And there's software the general public loves, because they can use it, and get help because everybody else uses it. |
| 19:16.31 | art3mis | imapjust doesnt cut it heh |
| 19:16.35 | sylvanaar | linux = compile your kernel |
| 19:16.36 | trh_ | cncfanatics: let's compare.. visual studio with... eclipse |
| 19:16.39 | deltron | imap > pop |
| 19:16.50 | art3mis | im not a fan of imap |
| 19:16.56 | trh_ | cncfanatics: eclipse SUCKS... the fucking ide doesn't even searches the document from the start when at the bottom, crashes constantly |
| 19:17.07 | trh_ | cncfanatics: is slow as hell compared to vs |
| 19:17.10 | sylvanaar | trh_ you have to have alot of memory to run it |
| 19:17.15 | trh_ | cncfanatics: code autocompletion sucks |
| 19:17.17 | Chompers | anyone know when the eu test realms will be back online? |
| 19:17.22 | RogueShadow | *sigh* I haven't been able to say I really like eclipse yet. |
| 19:17.24 | trh_ | sylvanaar: i got 2 fucking gigbytes, ain't that enough? |
| 19:17.29 | Chompers | looking forward to trying out some premade characters |
| 19:17.34 | cncfanatics | trh_, vim is nice :p |
| 19:17.45 | art3mis | nano! |
| 19:17.47 | trh_ | cncfanatics: unusable if you don't train with it for a week |
| 19:17.52 | sag_ich_nicht | hey |
| 19:17.53 | sag_ich_nicht | question |
| 19:17.56 | cncfanatics | trh_, same with visual studio ? :p |
| 19:17.56 | art3mis | hey |
| 19:17.57 | art3mis | answer |
| 19:17.59 | sylvanaar | i had to buy a new laptop to run eclipse a couple years ago |
| 19:18.00 | trh_ | cncfanatics: nope |
| 19:18.00 | cncfanatics | (never used it so I dunno) |
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| 19:18.12 | trh_ | cncfanatics: everyone can use visual studio within a few minutes |
| 19:18.25 | art3mis | vs makes my genitals hurt |
| 19:18.26 | sag_ich_nicht | am i allowed to say spoilers 1 second after midnight... i mean technicially it's out then and not a spoiler anymore. :O |
| 19:18.30 | trh_ | cncfanatics: wizard creates you a nice template, you start some gui clicking, go to run/run and it just works |
| 19:18.42 | cncfanatics | mmmm, well I guess nothing beats MS on user-friendlyness yet |
| 19:18.48 | trh_ | cncfanatics: ofc you can choose to not use the wizard |
| 19:18.52 | cncfanatics | think mandriva gets pretty close tho (or whatever its new name us) |
| 19:18.53 | RogueShadow | I remember watching QuakeCon video where John Carmack was doing his little spiel. Said IDE's really haven't improved *that* much. Seems true. |
| 19:18.55 | sylvanaar | nah, VS - Eclipse, they both have thier strong points |
| 19:19.06 | trh_ | art3mis: feel free to use the command line compiler =) |
| 19:19.22 | ZoidX | I use Slickedit to write all my code. |
| 19:19.23 | trh_ | sylvanaar: where is eclipse strong, compared to vs? |
| 19:19.29 | trh_ | sylvanaar: vs2005 |
| 19:19.36 | sylvanaar | refactoring |
| 19:19.44 | trh_ | sylvanaar: vs2005 does that pretty nice |
| 19:19.48 | sylvanaar | not as well |
| 19:20.01 | sylvanaar | not nearly |
| 19:20.02 | trh_ | sylvanaar: never had a problem :) |
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| 19:21.12 | Esteth | Could anyone direct me at a page somewhere that lists what can't be done when in combat? I know a few of the things, but i'm curious as to what else is impossible |
| 19:21.14 | sylvanaar | trh_ im just telling you something that eclipse is better at, that was one of the first things which came to mind |
| 19:21.15 | trh_ | cncfanatics: exactly.. MS program do not necessarely have as much features as their open source-alternatives, but are very very good in stability (at least since 2005) and user-friendlyness... |
| 19:21.34 | cncfanatics | trh_, MS aint known for their stability tbh |
| 19:21.49 | cncfanatics | I do agree on the user-friendlyess tho, and their proffessional programs are quite stable too |
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| 19:22.04 | Mech0z | Vista is farily stable |
| 19:22.09 | cncfanatics | lol |
| 19:22.10 | cncfanatics | Mech0z |
| 19:22.15 | cncfanatics | go look at what DRM is :p |
| 19:22.15 | sylvanaar | well, they cant tell you to compile your kernel when something goes wrong |
| 19:22.16 | trh_ | cncfanatics: i have yet to see a windows xp/vista crash due to MS-errors and not hardware problems |
| 19:22.18 | Mech0z | chrased once on me in 4 month |
| 19:22.23 | Mech0z | crash.. |
| 19:22.28 | cncfanatics | trh_ |
| 19:22.36 | cncfanatics | dunno about vista, I used to have XP |
| 19:22.40 | Mech0z | I dont have problem with DRM when I dont buy music |
| 19:22.41 | cncfanatics | and it was MUCH slower then this debian |
| 19:22.46 | Mech0z | I know its slow |
| 19:22.47 | trh_ | Mech0z: highly likely it's due to a bad driver or memory |
| 19:23.06 | sylvanaar | vista runs faster for me than xp |
| 19:23.21 | trh_ | cncfanatics: on my computer ubuntu is *alot* slower then vista/xp sp2 |
| 19:23.31 | Mech0z | The Lamborghini I was in 2 days ago runs faster than my vista install though |
| 19:23.58 | trh_ | cncfanatics: funny thing is that ubuntu even runs in a VMWare workstation under vista faster than native |
| 19:24.05 | sylvanaar | i have vmware i still need to install vista64 on it |
| 19:24.08 | Mech0z | trh_ thats is probobly also due to drivers not being as supported as windows drivers |
| 19:24.25 | trh_ | Mech0z: all my hardware was detected by ubuntu |
| 19:24.26 | CIA-22 | 03diablohu * r44346 10ArenaMaster/ArenaMaster.toc: |
| 19:24.26 | CIA-22 | ArenaMaster: |
| 19:24.26 | CIA-22 | - update zhCN |
| 19:24.33 | deltron | it's gotta be drivers |
| 19:24.57 | sylvanaar | which gets you back to _compile your kernel_ |
| 19:25.00 | cncfanatics | trh_, how is that even possible ? |
| 19:25.07 | trh_ | deltron: sure.. but everything that i've seen looked normal (used nvidia drivers, clocking of memory/fsb etc.) |
| 19:25.36 | trh_ | cncfanatics: to the day i have no idea... and tbh, i don't really care.. i just use it in a vm on my second screen if i need it :) |
| 19:26.03 | cncfanatics | heh |
| 19:26.11 | cncfanatics | bit weird that something runs faster emulated then native |
| 19:26.25 | cncfanatics | either way, with debian unstable I'm having WAY better performance then my old xp |
| 19:26.27 | cncfanatics | but wel |
| 19:26.28 | trh_ | cncfanatics: my guess is that the developers themself develop in a virtual machine |
| 19:26.31 | cncfanatics | installing was a pain |
| 19:26.34 | trh_ | therefore the VM hardware is supported best |
| 19:26.35 | sylvanaar | vmware makes money from thier software |
| 19:26.44 | deltron | vmware is awesome |
| 19:26.49 | deltron | I still need to try out virtualbox |
| 19:26.54 | cncfanatics | trh_, the VM "hardware" are generic ones, so I guess every OS supports them quite well |
| 19:27.04 | sylvanaar | yeah |
| 19:27.23 | sylvanaar | they pretest all that |
| 19:27.30 | trh_ | cncfanatics: yep.. i can only guess that the driver for something in my system had a fault, but no logs indicated any problem =) |
| 19:27.37 | CIA-22 | 03jaslaughter * r44347 10JasonQuest/ (Comm.lua ReadMe.txt): |
| 19:27.37 | CIA-22 | JasonQuest: |
| 19:27.38 | CIA-22 | - (Drycoded, Fix) JasonQuest\Comm.lua:215: attempt to compare boolean with number |
| 19:27.55 | trh_ | but i like linux/unix/bsd alot more for server systems :) |
| 19:28.03 | cncfanatics | well, its stable |
| 19:28.04 | Lyfe | most VM systems aren't completely emulated. |
| 19:28.07 | cncfanatics | and can run for months without a reboot |
| 19:28.13 | trh_ | cncfanatics: windows can too |
| 19:28.19 | Lyfe | a lot of them will take advantage of processor features to get maximum performance. |
| 19:28.26 | cncfanatics | trh_, never tried for more then a week, and I started experiencing artifacts then |
| 19:28.33 | sylvanaar | there's no need to emulate the cpu |
| 19:28.37 | trh_ | cncfanatics: seen windows servers running for >1year |
| 19:28.39 | CIA-22 | 03diablohu * r44348 10PallyPower/PallyPower.toc: |
| 19:28.39 | CIA-22 | PallyPower: |
| 19:28.39 | CIA-22 | - update zhCN |
| 19:28.50 | cncfanatics | same for linux :p but double that time |
| 19:28.51 | sylvanaar | you just make a runtime execution environment |
| 19:29.03 | trh_ | Lyfe: that's why they are called VIRTUAL machine :) |
| 19:29.07 | trh_ | Lyfe: not EMULATED machine :) |
| 19:29.16 | deltron | hehe our AIX boxes had uptimes of 600+ days |
| 19:29.18 | Lyfe | sylvanaar: actually, on older processors, you would have to emulate a lot of that, or at least introduce a layer into it. |
| 19:30.20 | Lyfe | trh_: virtual or not, the video card is still emulated. sound usually, too. |
| 19:30.50 | cncfanatics | 3d on vmware is awfull :p |
| 19:30.53 | trh_ | Lyfe: actually on older processors which should emulate features of newer processors the vm uses a irq entry for illegal instructions and then looks up which instruction it was and emulates it |
| 19:31.19 | trh_ | Lyfe: sure.. that's what virtualisation means |
| 19:31.20 | Lyfe | cncfanatics: 3d on vmware isn't really supported. which means it renders it on software.. with the exception of directx 8.1 on vmware fusion. :) |
| 19:31.48 | sylvanaar | honestly i dont want 3D on a VM |
| 19:31.49 | cncfanatics | Lyfe, I know :p |
| 19:31.54 | cncfanatics | and indeed, u dont get VM to do 3d |
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| 19:32.18 | Lyfe | sylvanaar: i do. i'd love for parallels or vmware fusion to have full directx9 support. |
| 19:32.33 | cncfanatics | how is opengl & vmware btw ? |
| 19:32.36 | trh_ | Lyfe: is fusion released yet? |
| 19:32.52 | Lyfe | trh: no, they just released a new release candidate a week or two ago. |
| 19:32.55 | trh_ | though fusion was up for august or something |
| 19:33.15 | Industrial | btw http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2007/7/20/82929/1716 |
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| 19:33.21 | sylvanaar | does anyone know the trick to get the vista upgrade to install w/o xp? |
| 19:33.42 | cncfanatics | sylvanaar, download xp ? :p |
| 19:33.53 | sylvanaar | no |
| 19:33.55 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r44349 10Parser-3.0/Parser-3.0/Parser-3.0.lua: Parser-3.0 - add more events to the Create eventType. This should probably be renamed to Loot, mind you. |
| 19:33.57 | deltron | sylvanaar: install it twice |
| 19:34.02 | Bam__ | did I enter the warez channel? :D |
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| 19:34.12 | trh_ | sylvanaar: http://www.dailytech.com/article.aspx?newsid=5932 |
| 19:34.31 | sylvanaar | i have 2 xp liscenses that are unused i just dont want to install it 2x and i know there is a way |
| 19:34.33 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r44350 10Parrot/CombatEvents.lua: Parrot_CombatEvents - add Loot combat event. |
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| 19:35.16 | Bam__ | who is it that usually do SVN "cleaning" when somebody has made mistakes? |
| 19:35.58 | sylvanaar | yeah, thats the one trh_ thanks |
| 19:36.02 | cncfanatics | u can clean it urself |
| 19:36.14 | trh_ | sylvanaar: well.. you still have to install vista twice.. ;) |
| 19:36.20 | Bam__ | it's not my mistake or my addon :P |
| 19:36.30 | Punkie` | look at the log? |
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| 19:37.51 | Antiarc|Work | Bam__: It's generally the responsibility of the person that made the mistake. If they don't/won't/can't, it's up to an SVN admin, as it's generally frowned upon to touch someone else's addon without permission |
| 19:38.25 | Punkie` | I think it depends really, if it's a small syntax error it's usually ok. |
| 19:38.48 | Bam__ | yea I know... that's exactly why I ask who usually do it... I could easily do it but I don't believe I have that privilege :P |
| 19:38.49 | trh_ | well... if the author of that addon is MIA and it's only a minor change i don't the the author would mind if someone else changes it |
| 19:39.05 | trh_ | +think |
| 19:39.32 | Bam__ | it's a matter of forgetting to use svn:externals really... it just bothers me hehe |
| 19:39.50 | trh_ | don't think if you'd correct it he'd care ;) |
| 19:39.54 | cncfanatics | dont think anyone would mind you setting that |
| 19:40.07 | trh_ | it's not even a code change =) |
| 19:40.39 | Bam__ | ok... it's a new author I guess and perhaps the wiki was not properly restored at the time... |
| 19:40.47 | sylvanaar | cool, its installing |
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| 19:40.59 | cncfanatics | Bam__, who's ? |
| 19:41.41 | Bam__ | cncfanatics: it's the author of ezIcons... I could not find him on the forum, so I figured he might be new |
| 19:42.06 | trh_ | Bam__: he was on irc few days ago.. think his nick was "Rhaene" |
| 19:42.22 | sylvanaar | i dont mind when ppl change my addons usually, that what svn is for |
| 19:42.28 | Bam__ | aye... it IS a requirement to use externals for libraries, right? |
| 19:42.55 | sylvanaar | i can always change it back if i dont like it |
| 19:43.04 | trh_ | Bam__: yep.. change it... you could look for ezIcons on curse and tell him there =) |
| 19:43.34 | Bam__ | yea will do that.. |
| 19:43.36 | trh_ | sylvanaar: full ack.... but i'd like to be asked before changing if it is something bigger |
| 19:43.46 | trh_ | sylvanaar: because sometimes you have something in your queue that's bigger |
| 19:44.00 | Bam__ | oh btw.. is the new standard with the embeds.xml also a requirement? |
| 19:44.08 | trh_ | Bam__: not a requirement afaik |
| 19:44.11 | sylvanaar | Bam__ nope |
| 19:44.12 | Bam__ | ok |
| 19:44.16 | trh_ | Bam__: but makes using no-externals very fast |
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| 19:45.24 | trh_ | btw: do you guys think a AFK timeout timer should be commited to the svn? i really don't want people to use it in the battlegrounds, but it's quite handy while working on the other screen to see how much more time you got without clicking into wow |
| 19:46.18 | cncfanatics | trh_, just code it so it disables itself in BGs :p |
| 19:46.28 | cncfanatics | most ppl wont have a clue how to remove that limitation anyway |
| 19:46.35 | trh_ | cncfanatics: ah.. nice idea :) |
| 19:46.52 | Bam__ | isn't it still a matter of "If it can be done in Lua, it's legal"? |
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| 19:47.23 | cncfanatics | Bam__, it is |
| 19:47.26 | cncfanatics | thats not the point tho |
| 19:47.34 | cncfanatics | its so ppl cant misuse trh_'s addon to get free honor |
| 19:47.46 | cncfanatics | oh, and there are illegal things that can be done in lua |
| 19:47.57 | cncfanatics | cross-faction communication is the one |
| 19:48.22 | Bam__ | hmm... well I guess you could say the addon itself is legal, but using it in certain ways violates the EULA? |
| 19:49.15 | Antiarc|Work | The limitations on what may be done via mod are extremely limited. |
| 19:49.24 | Antiarc|Work | The only EULA-breaker, to my knowledge, is x-faction comms. |
| 19:49.26 | Fin | limited limitations? |
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| 19:49.29 | Fin | :P |
| 19:49.46 | Fin | <-- pedant |
| 19:49.54 | Bam__ | double-negations ftw :P |
| 19:49.58 | cncfanatics | Fin limited limitations = few limitations |
| 19:49.58 | trh_ | well.. people that do the afk-leeching in battlegrounds get a warning too |
| 19:50.13 | Fin | cncfanatics: yes |
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| 19:52.05 | RogueShadow | afk leeching. :( |
| 19:52.06 | CIA-22 | 03cncfanatics * r44351 10FlexBar2/Core.lua: FlexBar2: More work done on the GUI & API |
| 19:52.26 | vithos | that reminds me, is it just me, or does the autologout warning get sent exactly when it logs you out? |
| 19:52.34 | cncfanatics | 20 sec before |
| 19:52.42 | cncfanatics | except if ur in a city |
| 19:52.50 | cncfanatics | as logout is instant in a city :p |
| 19:52.56 | cncfanatics | while it is 20 sec out of one |
| 19:52.57 | vithos | oh, lol. that would explain it |
| 19:53.51 | cncfanatics | btw |
| 19:54.04 | cncfanatics | how does embeds.xml work ? |
| 19:54.22 | trh_ | btw: how long is the time until you auto-logout when you do nothing? |
| 19:54.31 | vithos | 15 minutes? |
| 19:54.57 | cncfanatics | more I think |
| 19:54.57 | Cryect | embeds.xml work exact same basically as regular entries iinto the toc except it doesn't trigger an error if the file isn't found so its slightly faster at loadup |
| 19:55.12 | vithos | it's affected by keyboard/mouse movement, even while wow is alttabbed i think |
| 19:55.16 | vithos | i could be wrong though. |
| 19:55.26 | cncfanatics | Cryect, its also used by WAU I think ? |
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| 19:56.32 | Cryect | yeah they use it for something but don't know exactly what (disembedding or figuring out externals etc) |
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| 19:57.55 | cncfanatics | !api strfind |
| 19:57.56 | ThraeBot | cncfanatics: string.find(s, pattern [, init [, plain]]) -- http://www.wowwiki.com/API_strfind |
| 19:58.51 | cncfanatics | ~Thrae |
| 19:58.52 | purl | it has been said that thrae is awesome. |
| 19:58.57 | cncfanatics | it has ? :o |
| 19:58.59 | cncfanatics | weird |
| 19:59.06 | jme | hmm |
| 19:59.27 | kenlyric | nobody but purl says that |
| 19:59.36 | cncfanatics | someone told purl :o |
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| 19:59.53 | kenlyric | Thrae |
| 20:00.15 | jme | ~/irclogs/freenode$ grep Thrae * | grep awesome | wc -l 4 |
| 20:00.52 | jme | the 4 being on the next line :P |
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| 20:03.45 | cncfanatics | god making a GUI is so anoying |
| 20:03.49 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r44352 10Parser-3.0/Parser-3.0/Parser-3.0.lua: Parser-3.0 - add money gains to the Create eventType. makes .itemName false and .amount the amount of copper. |
| 20:03.55 | ckknight | cncfanatics: sure is |
| 20:04.23 | vhaarr | that's what dewdrop and waterfall is for :P |
| 20:04.29 | cncfanatics | I'm using waterfall |
| 20:04.32 | cncfanatics | its still irritating :p |
| 20:04.37 | vhaarr | not at all |
| 20:04.52 | cncfanatics | vhaarr, i'm not using acetables tho |
| 20:04.54 | Cryect | waterfall isn't exactly what I call a great gui eihter |
| 20:04.59 | cncfanatics | using the API itself cuz it has more options |
| 20:05.07 | Cryect | decent though |
| 20:05.08 | cncfanatics | Cryect, agree, it lacks options, even in API mode |
| 20:05.10 | vhaarr | 1. Make AceOptions table |
| 20:05.12 | vhaarr | 2. Feed |
| 20:05.14 | vhaarr | 3. Profit |
| 20:05.20 | cncfanatics | vhaarr, cant do everything from AceOptions :( |
| 20:05.23 | cncfanatics | not what I want at least :p |
| 20:05.24 | vhaarr | like what? |
| 20:05.46 | break19 | whats the lightest tooltip mod out there.. all I want is to move them.. they dont need to be on my mouse, just not blocking my chat |
| 20:05.59 | cncfanatics | break19, tinytip I think |
| 20:06.06 | Keias | CowTip is pretty light too |
| 20:06.07 | cncfanatics | vhaarr, multiple gui elements on the same line |
| 20:06.15 | Keias | Since all the display optoins are dog-tag based |
| 20:06.15 | cncfanatics | as an example |
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| 20:06.22 | break19 | tinytip does lots of stuff i dont need, as does cowtip. I like the looks of the bliz default, just not the location... |
| 20:06.34 | vhaarr | cncfanatics: "line"? |
| 20:06.44 | Keias | break19, there used to be an OLD OLD addon named TipWrangler or something |
| 20:06.47 | Keias | that did nothing but move the tip |
| 20:06.49 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r44353 10Parrot/CombatEvents.lua: |
| 20:06.49 | CIA-22 | Parrot_CombatEvents - bugfix in loot. |
| 20:06.49 | CIA-22 | - add Loot money combat event. |
| 20:06.49 | Keias | if that helps any |
| 20:06.56 | cncfanatics | vhaarr, multiple textboxes/buttons/whatever next to eachother horizontaly, not possible with aceoptions |
| 20:06.57 | Keias | Not entirely sure if it's still around though |
| 20:07.00 | ckknight | break19: for CowTip, just remove all the moduels you don't want. |
| 20:07.02 | vhaarr | cncfanatics: right |
| 20:07.08 | break19 | i dont think it works anymore keias |
| 20:07.15 | ckknight | break19: or disable em |
| 20:07.23 | cncfanatics | break19, u cld just add the 3 lines to do that urself in another addon |
| 20:07.24 | Keias | Wouldn't be surprised, its been a good year or so since I last used it |
| 20:07.28 | cncfanatics | u just got to anchor the tooltip to the cursor |
| 20:07.49 | break19 | cnc I dont WANT it on the cursor.. I want it in a specified location :p |
| 20:08.02 | break19 | but I guess cowtip will work if I can make it look just like the bliz default |
| 20:08.04 | cncfanatics | break19, just anchor it where u want that |
| 20:08.19 | cncfanatics | GameTooltip:SetPoint(...); and ur set :p |
| 20:08.30 | ckknight | break19: you can, you could also disable the appearance module and lines module |
| 20:08.49 | cncfanatics | just disable everything except anchoring pretty much |
| 20:09.02 | break19 | cnc.. I could... but then I'd have to fix it 400 times because I suck at lua... |
| 20:09.21 | break19 | and I *really* hate reinventing the wheel :p |
| 20:09.35 | cncfanatics | u can reinvent the wheel, or make a wheel urself already knowing how to, big difference |
| 20:10.33 | break19 | cnc: you prolly know more about the intracies and internals of a fully manual heavy-duty truck transmission, than I know about lua. |
| 20:10.48 | cncfanatics | u know nothing about lua ? :o |
| 20:10.59 | break19 | I know it's a programming language.. |
| 20:11.00 | break19 | heh |
| 20:11.10 | cncfanatics | thats more then I know about the above |
| 20:11.13 | break19 | an interpreted programming language... heh |
| 20:11.26 | break19 | cncfanatics: not true.. you know it makes the engine move the wheels.. I hope. |
| 20:11.34 | cncfanatics | now I do :o |
| 20:11.39 | break19 | geez lol |
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| 20:14.10 | CIA-22 | 03bam * r44354 10ezIcons/ (18 files in 14 dirs): |
| 20:14.10 | CIA-22 | ezIcons: |
| 20:14.10 | CIA-22 | - Modified to use externals for libraries |
| 20:16.39 | sb | mhh karathress... hunter pet doesnt despawn, right? |
| 20:16.50 | sb | that elemental add |
| 20:16.55 | deltron | hunter pets do I thought |
| 20:17.06 | sb | mhh |
| 20:17.12 | sb | that would be bad |
| 20:17.23 | Megalon | when you kill the hunter? |
| 20:17.31 | sb | first target |
| 20:17.37 | sb | well at least we try to :p |
| 20:18.12 | Megalon | you have to kill the pet after the hunter, when it was out when he died |
| 20:18.22 | sb | mhmhm yes |
| 20:18.40 | Megalon | it sometimes despawns and like 10sec after that the hunter calls for a new one |
| 20:18.41 | sb | but we had our mt tanking also that pet (MD and stuff... ) - okay... but it despawned? |
| 20:18.45 | sb | meh |
| 20:18.47 | sb | thats bad :o |
| 20:18.55 | sb | because no more MD then :p |
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| 20:24.58 | Peoii | ok, so in Parrot, what category would "Mana gained" fall under? |
| 20:25.58 | Hjalte | Does anyone know how much health the water elementals have in the aran fight now? - and do you advice on killing them? |
| 20:27.22 | buu | Bring locks |
| 20:27.24 | buu | win. |
| 20:27.36 | Peoii | screw that, just assist burn them |
| 20:27.46 | Peoii | they've only got like 30k health each, you can burn em really really quickly |
| 20:28.15 | buu | How many hp does aran have? |
| 20:28.33 | Fisker- | die cncfanatics |
| 20:28.35 | Peoii | not sure, but not much ;) |
| 20:29.04 | cncfanatics | Fisker- ty |
| 20:29.08 | cncfanatics | ~kill Fisker- |
| 20:29.09 | purl | ACTION shoots a magneto-ionized fluxgraviton gun at Fisker- |
| 20:30.19 | Peoii | Error: attempt to index field '?' (a nil value) File: Interface\AddOns\Parrot\CombatEvents.lua Line: 3351 |
| 20:30.47 | charon_ | i've just installed quartz, it doesn't seem to dock to fubar... is that intentional? the /quartzdd does get annoying while fiddling with it |
| 20:31.16 | ckknight | Peoii: Notification |
| 20:31.36 | ckknight | Peoii: also, already fixed |
| 20:31.40 | Peoii | cool. |
| 20:33.17 | cncfanatics | 3.3k lines ? eek |
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| 20:35.26 | ckknight | cncfanatics: most of it is event registrations |
| 20:35.33 | ckknight | the actual code part is pretty small |
| 20:35.36 | ckknight | well, reasonably |
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| 20:35.47 | cncfanatics | some 3k lines registering events ? |
| 20:35.52 | cncfanatics | u need that much for sct ? :p |
| 20:35.59 | cncfanatics | (sct being a generic term here, not the addon) |
| 20:36.10 | ckknight | with the way Parrot does it, yes |
| 20:37.06 | ckknight | cncfanatics: because it registers the category, name, localized name, the tags it uses, the help on each tag, what parser filter to use |
| 20:37.08 | ckknight | and it's spread out |
| 20:37.22 | ckknight | it could be on one line, but instead it's a line for each piece of data |
| 20:37.31 | cncfanatics | oh, I see |
| 20:37.41 | cncfanatics | rather have more readable code then less lines tbh, so ur right :p |
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| 20:38.03 | ckknight | if you see the code, it's actually very clear |
| 20:39.04 | cncfanatics | no time atm, coding myself :p |
| 20:40.16 | deltron | whoa |
| 20:40.22 | deltron | michael vick is dead |
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| 20:40.45 | deltron | he deserves that if he was doing what they said he was |
| 20:40.47 | ckknight | who's that? |
| 20:40.50 | Tornhoof | who is that? |
| 20:41.02 | deltron | football star who was also running a dog fighting ring |
| 20:41.17 | Antiarc|Work | Link? |
| 20:41.42 | Antiarc|Work | Google news doesn't have it |
| 20:41.43 | kenlyric | dead? |
| 20:41.46 | cncfanatics | Fisker- why do u stalk me ? |
| 20:41.50 | deltron | supposedly |
| 20:42.01 | Fisker- | i liek you cncfanatics :< |
| 20:42.05 | Antiarc|Work | deltron: Where'd you hear that? |
| 20:42.13 | deltron | other channel... |
| 20:42.20 | deltron | maybe i shouldn't spread stuff heh |
| 20:42.40 | Antiarc|Work | cnn and google news have nuthin' |
| 20:42.48 | Fisker- | news on what? |
| 20:42.53 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r44355 10Parrot/CombatEvents.lua: Parrot_CombatEvents - take wanding into account for cooldowns, so that wanding doesn't make it so that every spell shoots a ready message. |
| 20:42.55 | deltron | i'm checking around.. |
| 20:43.06 | ckknight | dog fighting sounds more neat than anything |
| 20:43.16 | Fin | ROBOT dog fighting! |
| 20:43.18 | ckknight | I could get into it |
| 20:43.27 | Fin | with lasers |
| 20:43.40 | deltron | hah |
| 20:43.45 | deltron | not when the dogs fight to the death |
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| 20:43.54 | deltron | and then are killed even if they win sometimes |
| 20:43.58 | Antiarc|Work | "Google stock has plummeted on what the market is calling a bad earnings report, falling over $46 in after-hours trading. GOOG fell from a closing price of $548.59 to around $502.47, an 8% drop that wiped out $13 billion in shareholder value." |
| 20:43.59 | Antiarc|Work | :O |
| 20:44.07 | Fisker- | http://yro.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=07/07/20/1942220 <-lol |
| 20:44.21 | Fisker- | google fails :< |
| 20:44.25 | Fin | oh no, golly, a mere FIVE HUNDRED SHITTING DOLLARS per share - whatever *will* they do |
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| 20:44.34 | Fin | silly money |
| 20:44.34 | ZoidX | That share price is insane |
| 20:44.49 | Fisker- | it's like apple |
| 20:44.54 | deltron | i believe that was fake about vick heh |
| 20:44.54 | Fin | except more |
| 20:44.56 | Fisker- | you gotta have a piece of paper showing your dedication |
| 20:45.13 | kenlyric | it needs to split. |
| 20:45.34 | deltron | ckknight: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Vick <-- about the dude |
| 20:46.28 | Diao | share prices aren't the point though |
| 20:46.38 | Diao | 8% drop is really bad |
| 20:46.38 | Diao | lol |
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| 20:49.08 | Chompers | Fin: want to make sure i've got this right, prats substitution module will change what i say right? |
| 20:49.29 | Chompers | but it doesn't change what other people say right? |
| 20:50.06 | deltron | 15:32 < Dezzimal> deltron: Vickrolled. |
| 20:50.07 | deltron | oh snap |
| 20:50.14 | deltron | I was vickrolled |
| 20:50.14 | deltron | lol |
| 20:50.24 | Fin | Chompers: that's the intent |
| 20:50.36 | Kemayo | ckknight: Parrot is looking pretty nice now. Thanks. :D |
| 20:50.47 | Fin | it should only modify your input |
| 20:51.01 | ckknight | I think all that needs to be added is more animations |
| 20:51.06 | ckknight | anyone have any other ideas? |
| 20:51.08 | Fin | Chompers: any bugs to report? |
| 20:51.09 | Peoii | ckknight: Curious question, does Parrot support aoe supression atm? |
| 20:51.12 | Chompers | Fin: got it |
| 20:51.25 | Chompers | no no, i just had the wrong idea about the subs module |
| 20:51.32 | ckknight | Peoii: what do you mean? |
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| 20:51.51 | Fisker- | rickrained > vickrolled |
| 20:51.55 | Fisker- | or rickrolled |
| 20:51.58 | ckknight | Peoii: multiple AoE hits merge into a single instance |
| 20:51.59 | Fin | Chompers: what are you looking for, then? |
| 20:51.59 | Fisker- | or duckrolled :< |
| 20:52.03 | Chompers | i thought it was going to change what people say :P |
| 20:52.13 | Fin | what is Parrot, please? |
| 20:52.21 | Bam__ | like a leet-translater? |
| 20:52.21 | Peoii | ckknight: Ok, so if I AE 20 mobs at the same time, I'll get 1 scroll not 20 yes? ;) |
| 20:52.23 | Fin | Chompers: you mean, for you locally? |
| 20:52.27 | Kemayo | Fin: scrolling combat text |
| 20:52.29 | ckknight | right, Peoii |
| 20:52.32 | Peoii | cool. |
| 20:52.33 | Fin | Kemayo: thanks |
| 20:52.38 | Chompers | i was looking for a way to fix all the spelling mistakes people make |
| 20:52.42 | Fisker- | What if i AE 1 GAZILLION mobs? |
| 20:52.46 | ckknight | Peoii: which, imho, is the best solution |
| 20:52.47 | Chompers | yeah, sort of a post process for me |
| 20:52.56 | ckknight | Fisker-: if they're all hit at the same time, then it'll merge |
| 20:52.58 | Fin | (although I think the correct reply would've been "Fin: what is Parrot, please?" heh) |
| 20:53.05 | Fisker- | bah :( |
| 20:53.05 | ckknight | within 0.1 seconds, that is |
| 20:53.09 | Fin | polly want a racker |
| 20:53.16 | Peoii | Makes sense. |
| 20:53.17 | Fisker- | that should've been "That's not even a number" |
| 20:53.18 | Fin | polly want crack |
| 20:53.24 | ckknight | ~parrot |
| 20:53.25 | purl | parrot is, like, the image displayed from the ipaq's default bootloader see http://www.handhelds.org/z/wiki/LoadingFromCF, or http://www.lobstertech.com/code/phoneparrot/, or a floating combat text addon for WoW |
| 20:53.33 | Fisker- | btw ckknight doesn't combat events start to "lag" when you hit a lot? |
| 20:53.45 | Peoii | Will parrot report how many mobs were affected? IE: Arcane Explosion (8000 dmg) (20) or something liek that? |
| 20:53.57 | Fin | polly want crack |
| 20:53.59 | ckknight | Fisker-: ...no |
| 20:54.09 | Fin | ~crack |
| 20:54.09 | purl | ACTION thinks the party is getting out of hand |
| 20:54.16 | ckknight | Peoii: you can set it to |
| 20:54.21 | Peoii | ckknight: nice. thanks. |
| 20:54.22 | ckknight | Peoii: just add ([Count]) |
| 20:54.30 | Fisker- | ~botsnack |
| 20:54.30 | purl | Fisker-: :) |
| 20:54.59 | ckknight | okay, I believe I stole everything that needed stealing from MSBT |
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| 20:55.41 | Fisker- | BlizzCon Ticket Contest Ends June 22 - http://www.blizzplanet.com/?act=News&id=1523 <-lol june 22 |
| 20:55.47 | Kemayo | Question for any QuestsFu users in here... I've written a module that displays your party member's quest logs. Right now it's a separate tablet -- would it be better to append the party member quests to the regular questsfu tablet as their own categories? |
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| 20:56.54 | Bam__ | ckknight: is Parrot handling non-combat messages too? Like "friend online" messages and stuff? |
| 20:57.08 | ckknight | in all honesty, it can. |
| 20:57.16 | ckknight | I'd leave that for a 3rd party module, though |
| 20:57.18 | Bam__ | just an idea |
| 20:57.25 | Fisker- | but i raised an eyebrow :< |
| 20:57.43 | kergoth | that sounds like a cool idea |
| 20:57.55 | Fisker- | yeah well i took a lot of time thinking about it kergoth |
| 20:58.05 | kergoth | :P |
| 20:58.10 | Garoun|Loupana | anyone know of a quick script/mod to clean up my saved variables folder... entirely too much dead weight sitting in there that is no longer used |
| 20:58.13 | Bam__ | ~slap Fisker- |
| 20:58.14 | purl | ACTION slaps Fisker-, keep your grubby fingers to yourself! |
| 20:58.21 | Fisker- | hehe |
| 20:58.22 | Tornhoof | sort by date |
| 20:58.28 | Tornhoof | log in/log out |
| 20:58.35 | Tornhoof | delete everything older than one day? |
| 20:58.44 | Garoun|Loupana | good idea :P |
| 20:58.51 | break19 | yep.... sort by date of access |
| 20:58.53 | Fin | ckknight: is it too early for feature suggestions for Parrot? |
| 20:58.56 | Bam__ | rm -rf does the trick really well :P |
| 20:59.07 | Fisker- | man |
| 20:59.08 | cncfanatics | finaly |
| 20:59.09 | break19 | Bam__: just dont f* up and add a / to the end |
| 20:59.10 | Fisker- | get it |
| 20:59.11 | ckknight | Fin: course not, I've been taking em for a while |
| 20:59.14 | Fisker- | I'm not THAT MUCH of a linux n00b |
| 20:59.18 | cncfanatics | my GUI framework for 3rd party modules WORK |
| 20:59.19 | Bam__ | hehe |
| 20:59.26 | Garoun|Loupana | forgot any mod installed refreshes the lua files |
| 20:59.58 | Fin | ckknight: k. if it's not already been considered, how about variable size text instead of the usual normal / crit sizes? |
| 21:00.04 | Fisker- | They witness the wheels of my automobile rotating |
| 21:00.08 | ckknight | Fin: how do you mean? |
| 21:00.27 | Fisker- | looking forward to what slouken plans for 2.4 btw :o |
| 21:00.28 | ckknight | Fin: you can change fonts/sizes/outline on an event-by-event/trigger-by-trigger basis |
| 21:00.49 | ckknight | Fin: or event on a scroll frame basis |
| 21:01.12 | Fin | ckknight: let the user set a standard size for a standard heal (or whatever), then adjust the font size based on the heal done |
| 21:01.26 | Fin | eg, standard greater heal = 3500, heal for 7000 is double size |
| 21:01.27 | ckknight | ah, I dunno about that. |
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| 21:01.50 | ckknight | that complicates things immensely |
| 21:01.57 | Fin | heh, yeah, I guess it would |
| 21:02.01 | ckknight | especially with how the animation styles work |
| 21:02.07 | Peoii | ckknight: Ok, one last question of something I can't find in Parrot... I want to hide the minimap icon, and hide the fubar plugin... (cause I like retardedly clean interfaces) Is there a way to bring up the waterfall config without either of those showing? |
| 21:02.08 | ckknight | and everything... |
| 21:02.21 | Fin | I've thought of it before though, cos some crits I do are hardly crits really - low crits = high normals almost |
| 21:02.21 | ckknight | hrm... |
| 21:02.29 | ckknight | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:02.44 | ckknight | Waterfall's currently broken for Parrot, and Nargiddley won't log on |
| 21:02.44 | Peoii | Right, but there is no way to bring up the waterfall in the dewdrop even. ;) |
| 21:03.04 | cncfanatics | ckknight, whats the prob ? |
| 21:03.15 | cncfanatics | I used the damn API so much by now I can solve most probs :p |
| 21:03.15 | ckknight | passValue won't work properly with multiToggle |
| 21:03.33 | ckknight | it doesn't pass in the passValue in that case |
| 21:03.39 | cncfanatics | heh, he forgot it there too |
| 21:03.48 | cncfanatics | he had forgotten it in checkedFunc in the API too |
| 21:04.11 | cncfanatics | s/checkedFunc/changedFunc/ |
| 21:04.29 | Fisker- | man |
| 21:04.40 | Fisker- | i was just thinking what the hell people were doing with T5 on our server |
| 21:04.43 | Fisker- | then it was just arena 2 stuff |
| 21:04.44 | Fisker- | >P |
| 21:04.45 | Fisker- | :P |
| 21:05.06 | Chompers | that larger text for bigger crits idea is full of win |
| 21:05.22 | cncfanatics | lol |
| 21:05.33 | cncfanatics | my highest crit is what, 1.5k |
| 21:05.34 | cncfanatics | lal |
| 21:05.49 | Fisker- | parrot is teh nice |
| 21:05.51 | Chompers | it could be user-based |
| 21:06.00 | Fin | yes, definitely |
| 21:06.07 | Fin | it would have to be really |
| 21:06.11 | Chompers | with a automatic min-max set from the players own hits |
| 21:06.13 | Fisker- | lets kiss Fin |
| 21:06.18 | Fin | but I don't think it's going to happen anyway mate :) |
| 21:06.24 | Fin | probably best to forget abou tit |
| 21:06.26 | Fin | t< |
| 21:06.52 | cncfanatics | I'm a tank |
| 21:07.01 | cncfanatics | so I will rarely crit about 1.2k ish with avenger's shield |
| 21:07.08 | cncfanatics | all above that is buffed pretty much : |
| 21:08.52 | Chompers | fin: what do you think of my local subs idea? |
| 21:09.14 | Fin | ckknight: also, as a note, one thing that vaguely annoys me sometimes is when scrolling messages get too wide and start covering other bits - the ability to limit the width of messages would be nice |
| 21:09.23 | Fin | Chompers: I'm afraid I missed it mate, one sec |
| 21:09.26 | ckknight | Fin: that's based on animation style. |
| 21:09.40 | ckknight | I might add options and the like to that regard later |
| 21:10.11 | sb | ckknight: haha - loot notification :) |
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| 21:10.18 | ckknight | sb: nice, eh? |
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| 21:10.59 | Fin | ckknight: I don't really know anything about what's involved with animation styles - does that mean you can't easily modify the scrolling text? |
| 21:11.12 | Fin | Chompers: can you explain again, please? |
| 21:11.19 | ckknight | Fin: the sizes are expected to be consistent |
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| 21:12.18 | Fisker- | i put on my wizards robe and hat |
| 21:12.36 | Fin | ckknight: ah... how do crits work then? |
| 21:12.50 | sb | ckknight: yep :o |
| 21:13.10 | ckknight | Fin: there's a difference between normal and sticky types, which are seen as two separate entities, and as such, can be on separate animation styles |
| 21:13.22 | Chompers | fin: say someone says to me " i wnt mon3y" |
| 21:13.35 | Tinyboom | ckknight: parrot: how to ignore conjuring messages, a pain when conjuring for a raid or party full of casters.... ;) |
| 21:13.43 | Fin | ckknight: ahh |
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| 21:14.07 | Fin | huh, Chompers obviously not very tolerant with people asking for money |
| 21:14.15 | Chompers | :P |
| 21:14.29 | Chompers | maybe a bad example |
| 21:14.40 | ckknight | Tinyboom: hrm... what does the chat log say: You receive item: [link], You create item: [link], or You loot item: [link]? |
| 21:14.41 | Chompers | but i want to be able to swap out words people say for words i've selected |
| 21:15.10 | Chompers | so i don't have to look at text talk/dumb spelling |
| 21:15.46 | Bam__ | teh 1337 translator! |
| 21:16.20 | Chompers | hell, it could even be used for exactly the opposite |
| 21:16.20 | Bam__ | but then you won't be able to judge them based on their language :P |
| 21:16.48 | Tinyboom | Loot conjured bread/fresh water +12 (on lvl 17 alt atm) |
| 21:16.57 | Tinyboom | ckknight: Loot conjured bread/fresh water +12 (on lvl 17 alt atm) |
| 21:16.57 | Chompers | good point, perhaps an ability to select what channels it processes |
| 21:17.23 | ckknight | Tinyboom: the chat log. |
| 21:17.26 | ckknight | not Parrot. |
| 21:17.46 | Bam__ | "mage gief wtr plz" => "kind mage, would it be too much trouble to ask for some water?" |
| 21:17.48 | Tinyboom | ckknight: you create :p |
| 21:17.53 | break19 | Chompers: ken ai haf sum moonay |
| 21:17.57 | ckknight | Tinyboom: alright |
| 21:18.58 | cncfanatics | zamg nub waterbot giev water & I wont pawn u |
| 21:19.12 | Bam__ | I want something to remove people's misuse of question marks :P |
| 21:19.31 | Bam__ | "WTB +35 agi???" |
| 21:19.41 | Bam__ | well I don't know.. do you? :P |
| 21:19.48 | JoshBorke | what do you mean? |
| 21:19.53 | JoshBorke | that's a dumb idea??!?? |
| 21:19.58 | Bam__ | hehe |
| 21:20.28 | sb | mh Bam__ - well... its WTS +35 agi then? |
| 21:20.35 | Bam__ | some people just put question marks after lines that are not questions at all... it bothers me :P |
| 21:20.37 | sb | "you want to buy.... ???" |
| 21:20.39 | sb | so its a question :p |
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| 21:21.08 | Bam__ | it looks like a question... but it really is just a statement :) |
| 21:21.27 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r44356 10Parser-3.0/Parser-3.0/Parser-3.0.lua: Parser-3.0 - add .isCreated to the "Create" eventType. |
| 21:22.01 | sb | ckknight: mh - money loot doesnt work? |
| 21:22.11 | Fin | Chompers: possible, dunno though... not sure it would have too broad an appeal :) post it on the forum thread, see if anyone else likes the idea? |
| 21:22.23 | Chompers | fair enough :) |
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| 21:25.04 | ckknight | sb: does for me. |
| 21:25.39 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r44357 10Parrot/CombatEvents.lua: Parrot_CombatEvents - don't show loot messages for created items. |
| 21:25.45 | ckknight | sb: wanna do me a favor? |
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| 21:25.57 | deltron | http://www.chorewars.com/ |
| 21:26.06 | sb | ckknight: hm - testing sth? |
| 21:26.19 | ckknight | AceLibrary("Parser-3.0"):RegisterParserEvent({eventType="Create"}, function(info) AceLibrary("AceConsole-2.0"):PrintLiteral(info) end) |
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| 21:26.22 | ckknight | then loot some money |
| 21:26.26 | sb | okay |
| 21:26.34 | sb | meh - with latest Parser? |
| 21:26.39 | sb | or is <44356 okay? |
| 21:26.39 | ckknight | and see if it comes up, if it does, screenshot et al |
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| 21:26.51 | ckknight | should be fine |
| 21:26.56 | harldephin | (windwolf is now my registered alternate nick) |
| 21:27.02 | Tinyboom | ckknight: Thanks:) |
| 21:27.08 | ckknight | Tinyboom: :-) |
| 21:27.44 | raider|poul | http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/30613/ do it matter if i do chp as maxhp - mh or should i use unit:currenthp or something, just some script i was editing in |
| 21:29.05 | sb | ckknight: no event |
| 21:29.15 | ckknight | sb: does it show up in the chat log? |
| 21:29.18 | sb | nope |
| 21:29.28 | sb | it does on items - but nothing when looting money |
| 21:29.31 | sb | err gold |
| 21:29.37 | ckknight | oh |
| 21:29.40 | ckknight | then that's your issue. |
| 21:30.53 | Shir | money doesnt show when you aren't in a group :) |
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| 21:31.24 | sb | oh hm |
| 21:31.30 | Tinyboom | ckknight: not sure if it's possible, but could be an idea to get rid of grey loot:) |
| 21:31.30 | sb | right |
| 21:31.44 | sb | there is no event when not in group? |
| 21:31.48 | ckknight | stop looting gray stuff, Tinyboom |
| 21:31.52 | ckknight | :-P |
| 21:32.00 | ckknight | sb: there is |
| 21:32.04 | Shir | grey loot is like imba-vendor trash :) |
| 21:32.12 | ckknight | YOU_LOOT_MONEY |
| 21:32.21 | KarlThePagan | Tip: when griefing horde stand INSIDE the mob they're attacking. |
| 21:32.36 | Tinyboom | ckknight: lol, hard on alts...using autoloot^^ |
| 21:32.41 | ckknight | hrm... |
| 21:32.52 | ckknight | I guess nobody actually cares about gray loot messages. |
| 21:33.24 | KarlThePagan | few |
| 21:33.45 | art3mis | laugh ckk |
| 21:33.51 | Tinyboom | hehe |
| 21:33.51 | art3mis | you should change all loot messages to that |
| 21:33.56 | ckknight | to what? |
| 21:33.58 | art3mis | You Loot STUFF! |
| 21:33.58 | break19 | if I grind on the elemental plateau, I can usually make another 10-15g an hour just by selling junk. heh |
| 21:34.22 | art3mis | You Loot Moneies! |
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| 21:34.22 | art3mis | and a line after each that just says HOORAY! |
| 21:34.22 | Chompers | damn eu ptr, come back online :< |
| 21:34.22 | KarlThePagan | but for detecting solo money gains... perhaps intercepting the right PlaySound and checking how much cash you got? |
| 21:34.38 | Bam__ | You Got Loot! |
| 21:34.50 | Tinyboom | you: loot grey loot | parrot --> get rid of junk.....get rid of junk:p |
| 21:35.15 | Fisker- | naga plz |
| 21:35.15 | art3mis | complete with aol voiced messages |
| 21:35.22 | art3mis | You've got Loot! |
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| 21:35.32 | Fisker- | You've got pending raep |
| 21:35.34 | break19 | naga please... |
| 21:35.43 | art3mis | You've gets Moneys from the corpseses! |
| 21:35.45 | break19 | heh |
| 21:35.51 | Chompers | pedobear Fisker- |
| 21:36.02 | break19 | sup naga? |
| 21:36.03 | Fisker- | no u |
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| 21:36.20 | art3mis | ill always remember that pspcommercial with the black talking squirrels |
| 21:36.22 | Fisker- | i still lolwutted over the fact someone got a 3 day ban for "Naga stole my water" :D |
| 21:36.24 | art3mis | Squirrel pleez |
| 21:36.24 | break19 | you hear what dat naga said to me? |
| 21:36.48 | break19 | art3mis: heh |
| 21:36.50 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r44358 10Parser-3.0/Parser-3.0/Parser-3.0.lua: Parser-3.0 - add .itemRarity to the Create eventType. |
| 21:36.54 | art3mis | Naga Stole my Bike is a guilde on my server |
| 21:37.11 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r44359 10Parrot/CombatEvents.lua: Parrot_CombatEvents - don't show gray items when looting. |
| 21:37.37 | art3mis | 3 CareBear Stare -- |
| 21:37.37 | ckknight | Tinyboom: your job to test. |
| 21:37.49 | art3mis | in guild braces it's awesome! |
| 21:38.00 | CIA-22 | 03cncfanatics * r44360 10FlexBar2/Core.lua: FlexBar2: Buttons can now be correctly shown and moved with the GUI |
| 21:38.04 | Fisker- | Around naga's never relax |
| 21:38.07 | Fisker- | i should make a guild named that |
| 21:38.18 | Tinyboom | ckknight: will do:) |
| 21:38.18 | art3mis | hehe Naga from the Waist Down. |
| 21:38.48 | art3mis | Nappy Nappy Naga's |
| 21:39.00 | break19 | fisker: Beach as Naga |
| 21:39.14 | art3mis | Broke as Naga |
| 21:39.27 | vithos | ckknight: with CowTip, if i mouse over a corpse and then a labeled object, the background color for the object is wrong |
| 21:39.30 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r44361 10Parrot/ (AnimationStyles.lua Display.lua): Parrot_AnimationStyles - pass in reverse instead of sticky. Add styles "Left semicircle" and "Right semicircle". |
| 21:39.45 | ckknight | vithos: odd |
| 21:39.56 | break19 | Fisker-: These Nagas Dont Play |
| 21:39.56 | art3mis | ON: Original Naga and thier arch nemesis Naga owes This Babymomma |
| 21:40.38 | vithos | in other news, i just transferred realms and i now have Aspect of the Hawk and Viper up simultaneously. |
| 21:40.51 | break19 | actually. I might make a twink guild called This Naga Dont Play |
| 21:40.52 | ckknight | fun |
| 21:41.11 | vithos | i also had to pay for a respec because my talents weren't being applied |
| 21:41.24 | art3mis | i miss my gnomeish friend named Chompskey |
| 21:41.33 | vithos | 30g was worth it to not talk to a GM who might have noticed my buffs. |
| 21:41.40 | Fisker- | vithos it will be removed when you die or zone |
| 21:41.47 | Fisker- | flaw in their character transfer |
| 21:42.02 | art3mis | just dont log off or do instances! |
| 21:42.07 | art3mis | its fool proof! |
| 21:42.16 | Fisker- | heh like it's that good |
| 21:42.24 | Fisker- | Now controlling minions indefinately that's funny |
| 21:42.42 | Fisker- | fortunately for me, everyone BUT me got a warning for doing it |
| 21:42.49 | vithos | aww, that sucks that it'll go away when i zone :( |
| 21:43.02 | vithos | i already portaled from shat to IF and it stayed up though |
| 21:43.03 | Fisker- | i even soloed Teremus the Devourer |
| 21:43.06 | Fisker- | or whatever he's called |
| 21:43.17 | Fisker- | took me 1½ hours but i did it |
| 21:43.52 | vithos | haha |
| 21:44.12 | Bam__ | there is a PvP movie with a mage with a bugged POM.. it is stuck on constantly :P |
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| 21:44.43 | Peoii | Bam__: I had combustion stick... Combustionx10 and it refused to go away.... That was a wonderful AV.... |
| 21:44.54 | Peoii | Every single shot was a crit... made me happy. |
| 21:44.57 | Bam__ | hehe... |
| 21:45.05 | Fisker- | btw Vikholm |
| 21:45.06 | Fisker- | vithos |
| 21:45.09 | Fisker- | the most funny part |
| 21:45.13 | Fisker- | I went to Stormwind |
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| 21:45.22 | CIA-22 | 03cncfanatics * r44362 10FlexBar2/Layout/ (. Layout.lua): FlexBar2: Added Basic layout module |
| 21:45.23 | Fisker- | and engaged all the npc's in the throne room |
| 21:45.29 | Fisker- | so 2-3 farm teams reported me |
| 21:45.37 | Fisker- | because the BG guys were there |
| 21:45.44 | *** join/#wowace Dotted (n=me@0x5731dd38.aaanxx4.adsl-dhcp.tele.dk) |
| 21:46.13 | vithos | i just relogged and didn't lose my two aspects |
| 21:46.26 | Fisker- | doesn't happen when you relog as far as i know |
| 21:46.41 | CIA-22 | 03adirelle * r44363 10SimpleSelfRebuff/Reminder/Reminder.lua: SimpleSelfRebuff: fixed bug of reminder with MikSBT output. |
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| 21:46.49 | Fisker- | but in any case you will a 100% lose it when you die |
| 21:47.09 | cncfanatics | Peoii, imba :p |
| 21:47.41 | vithos | yes but i'm a hunter. i can probably manage to not die for a few days at least :D |
| 21:48.09 | cncfanatics | a mage with 100% crit wont die fast either |
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| 21:48.17 | raider|poul | unit:MissingHealth(); for powerbar mana/rage/energy. how is that? |
| 21:48.26 | raider|poul | MissingMana=? |
| 21:48.36 | vithos | is dwarf rogues being invincible on the PTR fixed yet? |
| 21:48.44 | cncfanatics | its funny im |
| 21:48.51 | cncfanatics | how can u not to such a thing on purpose ? |
| 21:48.54 | cncfanatics | it *has* to be |
| 21:49.14 | Bam__ | how are they invincible? |
| 21:49.18 | vithos | they can't be attacked |
| 21:49.20 | Antiarc|Work | They don't take damage. |
| 21:49.24 | Bam__ | heh |
| 21:49.32 | Antiarc|Work | I am seriously hoping that they didn't fix it yet |
| 21:49.41 | Antiarc|Work | Because I am recruiting my guild to all copy over dwarf rogue premades |
| 21:49.43 | Kemayo | Sounds like a rational response to how few dwarf rogues I've seen. :) |
| 21:49.47 | Bam__ | that's sort of game breaking :P |
| 21:49.48 | Antiarc|Work | And we're gonna go roll a raid instance tonight |
| 21:50.12 | vithos | do you really need a whole guild to do it? just go solo the whole game :D |
| 21:50.28 | Antiarc|Work | Well, no. But it'd be slow otherwise :P |
| 21:50.33 | kergoth | hmm, wonder if http://www.wowhead.com/?item=24128#00z is worth making |
| 21:50.41 | Antiarc|Work | 25 kitted-out invincible rogues stabbing something would be hilarious. |
| 21:51.17 | Fisker- | well if the AI is like in Warcraft 3 it will flee :P |
| 21:51.37 | Bam__ | might want to be a little careful... if you do something too drastic, I suppose the GM's might react |
| 21:51.45 | Bam__ | even on PTR |
| 21:51.46 | Antiarc|Work | I am desperately hoping it's not fixed and that the PTR premades are keyed, so that we can go blow through Black Temple and FRAPS it |
| 21:51.52 | Antiarc|Work | On the PTR? I seriously doubt it. |
| 21:52.12 | Arrowmaster | Antiarc|Work: which ptr server |
| 21:52.15 | Antiarc|Work | PVE |
| 21:52.16 | Bam__ | well the rules are the same really... wether they enforce them is another story |
| 21:52.17 | Arrowmaster | ill make a premade |
| 21:52.41 | Antiarc|Work | Bam__: Right. No sense in alienating customers for bending the rules in a sandbox ;) |
| 21:52.58 | Bam__ | probably only if you harrass others they will do something I guess |
| 21:53.22 | Kemayo | Roll a level 1 dwarf rogue. Go duel 70s. |
| 21:53.27 | Antiarc|Work | "In an apparent violation of the law, a controverisal aide to ex-Gov. Mitt Romney created phony law enforcement badges that he and other staffers used on the campaign trail to strong-arm reporters, avoid paying tolls and trick security guards into giving them immediate access to campaign venues, sources told the Herald" |
| 21:53.29 | Antiarc|Work | Oh snaps. |
| 21:53.31 | Bam__ | or deliberately cause the server to crash :P |
| 21:53.45 | Antiarc|Work | Bam__: They didn't really even do much when people were going wild with the GM ports. |
| 21:53.57 | ckknight | making animations is really not that hard, all in all, it's just about finding the right algorithm for the path you want... |
| 21:54.14 | Bam__ | no I suppose they don't spend much time enforcing rules there |
| 21:54.43 | Bam__ | in that sense PTR is like a normal EU server :P |
| 21:54.46 | Arrowmaster | Antiarc|Work: boo i get an error when trying to make a premade dwarf rogue |
| 21:54.56 | Fisker- | gtfo |
| 21:54.59 | Fisker- | i want premades |
| 21:55.05 | CIA-22 | 03sylvanaar 07sylvanaar * r44364 10Prat/Refactor/Debug-1.0.lua: Prat: Prat's subsystem debug code made into a library. |
| 21:55.06 | Fisker- | what gear and money do they get? |
| 21:55.11 | Kemayo | It doesn't really make sense to apply normal rules to the PTR -- it's there so you can learn what can be broken, thus it's good to encourage people to abuse the system as much as they can. |
| 21:55.53 | Bam__ | Kemayo: well to a limit... they have to be able to run the server too :P |
| 21:56.56 | CIA-22 | 03sylvanaar 07sylvanaar * r44365 10Prat/Refactor/Debug-1.0.lua: Prat: Actual copy |
| 21:58.23 | Chompers | Fisker-: lets party together on the ptr |
| 21:58.26 | Chompers | ...naked |
| 21:59.27 | Fisker- | ok |
| 21:59.30 | Fisker- | you on EU_ |
| 21:59.31 | Fisker- | ? |
| 22:01.06 | RogueShadow | mmm. animations. |
| 22:01.17 | Fisker- | SO |
| 22:01.26 | Fisker- | What gear/skills/money do US premades get? QQ |
| 22:02.22 | Kyahx | I thought they didn't do premades anymore |
| 22:02.33 | Kemayo | Antiarc|Work: Omen doesn't obey the show-only-in-party setting when loaded by AddonLoader. (Also, it always appears in the center of the screen.) |
| 22:02.42 | Fisker- | they just reenabled them for 2.2 |
| 22:04.01 | Chompers | yes Fisker- i'm eu |
| 22:04.14 | Chompers | i think they get t5/t6 |
| 22:04.35 | Chompers | lots of bags+netherdrake |
| 22:04.59 | sylvanaar | taking long enough for my char to copy |
| 22:05.35 | Fisker- | haha |
| 22:05.38 | Fisker- | you get 36 slot bags |
| 22:05.40 | Fisker- | do want |
| 22:05.41 | Bam__ | whoa... the Mac client gets in-game video capture :P |
| 22:06.00 | ckknight | yep |
| 22:06.27 | sylvanaar | is that a good thing? lets see |
| 22:06.54 | Fisker- | it's a shame that developement seem to be centered around the fact that blizzard Q&A uses mac |
| 22:07.01 | Bam__ | you fear too many lousy videos? :P |
| 22:07.17 | sylvanaar | buggy implementation and crashes |
| 22:07.30 | Bam__ | perhaps |
| 22:07.37 | Fisker- | mac only = nuff said |
| 22:07.46 | kergoth | ckknight, are there options to change position within the scroll area for the animations? |
| 22:08.02 | ckknight | you can move the scroll frame. |
| 22:08.07 | kergoth | that's not what i asked. |
| 22:08.15 | ckknight | okay, I don't know what you're asking, then |
| 22:08.16 | sylvanaar | cool vista64 is installed on my vm |
| 22:08.17 | kergoth | pow vs parabola, i'm seeing text overlap depending on the font selections |
| 22:08.28 | kergoth | i want to know how to set offsets for position of animation styles within the scroll frame |
| 22:08.40 | ckknight | there's no way currently |
| 22:08.40 | BankZ | Im trying to get DBM and BigWigs to play nice togther but cant figure out how to turn off the BigWigs bars |
| 22:08.41 | kergoth | or rather, if thats possible |
| 22:08.43 | BankZ | any ideas? |
| 22:08.45 | kergoth | okay, thats what i was wondering |
| 22:08.45 | kergoth | thanks |
| 22:08.48 | ckknight | you can increase size, though |
| 22:08.50 | ckknight | that'll probably help |
| 22:08.53 | kergoth | kk |
| 22:09.29 | CIA-22 | 03xbeeps * r44366 10FuBar_GarbageFu/ (. FuBar_GarbageFu.toc GarbageFu.lua GarbageFu_Vendor.lua): |
| 22:09.29 | CIA-22 | FuBar_GarbageFu: |
| 22:09.29 | CIA-22 | - Integrated ItemPrice-1.0 as an external, and removed support for external |
| 22:09.29 | CIA-22 | vendor price addons (deprecated). This change has been announced in the wowace |
| 22:09.29 | CIA-22 | forum. For continued support for external vendor price addons, stick to revision |
| 22:09.29 | CIA-22 | 43120. |
| 22:10.30 | vhaarr | BankZ: why on earth would you do that? |
| 22:10.35 | vhaarr | BankZ: just delete the bar module |
| 22:12.25 | BankZ | vhaarr: I like some of the features of each |
| 22:12.33 | BankZ | both have their good points |
| 22:14.47 | sb | ckknight: mh - is there anything i can do about that wand spell-ready thing? |
| 22:14.53 | sb | do you need some debug stuff? |
| 22:14.54 | ckknight | I fixed it |
| 22:15.06 | BankZ | vhaarr: if I use WAU will I have delete it everytime? |
| 22:15.26 | Fisker- | night |
| 22:15.26 | vhaarr | that's right |
| 22:15.41 | Fisker- | remember cncfanatics |
| 22:15.43 | BankZ | vhaarr: you give the option to turn everything else off, why not that? |
| 22:15.46 | Fisker- | around Fisker- never relax |
| 22:15.51 | Bam__ | hmm how do you get a premade? |
| 22:15.52 | vhaarr | BankZ: perhaps you could give me a list of the things you like in DBM, then, and I can just fix them in BW |
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| 22:17.25 | BankZ | vhaarr: both are good but I can give you some ideas. I like the msg block, the boss fight timer, the timer bars look nicer |
| 22:17.36 | vhaarr | msg block? |
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| 22:17.52 | BankZ | also it seems like BW have been losing timers recently |
| 22:17.58 | vhaarr | losing how? |
| 22:17.58 | BankZ | tell block and status |
| 22:18.02 | vhaarr | DBM copies all our modules |
| 22:18.05 | vhaarr | I don't see how we can lose anything |
| 22:18.19 | BankZ | well, it seems like sometimes they are just not there |
| 22:18.24 | BankZ | im doing a lot of SSC |
| 22:18.35 | cncfanatics | Omen's KTM sync is bugged ? |
| 22:18.57 | BankZ | I can watch it more and give examples later |
| 22:19.24 | vhaarr | your feedback now is useless at least, you need to give me a specific list |
| 22:19.25 | BankZ | but things like the spout timer for lurker wasnt there last night |
| 22:19.35 | Kemayo | ckknight: Loot money in Parrot doesn't seem to work. |
| 22:19.43 | ckknight | it does for me |
| 22:19.51 | ckknight | Kemayo: what shows in your chat log? |
| 22:19.54 | ckknight | for money |
| 22:20.24 | kergoth | you're watching for both patterns right |
| 22:20.26 | kergoth | ? |
| 22:20.31 | kergoth | meh, headache |
| 22:20.34 | ckknight | yes. |
| 22:21.14 | BankZ | useless, ehh |
| 22:21.17 | Kemayo | ckknight: Nothing. |
| 22:21.50 | ckknight | Kemayo: which is why Parrot can't pick it up, my guess |
| 22:22.37 | Kemayo | ckknight: Makes sense, certainly. |
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| 22:22.56 | cncfanatics | ~shoot Fisker- |
| 22:22.57 | purl | ACTION shoots Fisker- in the head with a quantum singularity weapon! |
| 22:23.02 | BankZ | also the proximity fram in BW is fugly :/ |
| 22:23.40 | BankZ | but I am not trying to bash BW, I like it and have used it for a long time |
| 22:23.52 | Bam__ | ~kill Bam__ |
| 22:23.52 | purl | ACTION shoots a magneto-ionized fluxproton gun at Bam__ |
| 22:24.27 | Bam__ | bleh |
| 22:25.54 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r44367 10Parrot/ (AnimationStyles.lua Display.lua): Parrot_AnimationStyles - add left and right rainbow. they're not that good yet, though. |
| 22:27.34 | Kemayo | ckknight: There's only chat messages about it in a group, or is it some other addon hiding it? |
| 22:27.54 | ckknight | what chat messages are about it? |
| 22:28.19 | sb | "your share of the loot is x silver blah..." |
| 22:28.21 | Antiarc|Work | Booooooo |
| 22:28.24 | Antiarc|Work | They fixed dwarves. |
| 22:28.26 | Antiarc|Work | >:( |
| 22:28.37 | sb | hm 'fixed'? |
| 22:28.43 | Antiarc|Work | Yes, they aren't invincible anymore. |
| 22:28.47 | sb | removed them? |
| 22:28.48 | sb | oh hm |
| 22:28.53 | Antiarc|Work | And I was so looking forward to trashing BT tonight |
| 22:28.55 | sb | how invincible? |
| 22:28.58 | Antiarc|Work | Godmode. |
| 22:29.01 | Antiarc|Work | On the PTR |
| 22:29.04 | sb | huh? :P |
| 22:29.06 | Antiarc|Work | Yes |
| 22:29.27 | cncfanatics | Antiarc|Work>Omen aint working atm |
| 22:29.39 | Antiarc|Work | cncfanatics: More info please? |
| 22:29.59 | ckknight | Kemayo: do you get the "Your share of the loot" thing? |
| 22:30.16 | CIA-22 | 03sayclub * r44368 10BigWigs/BlackTemple/Shahraz.lua: BigWigs: Updated koKR |
| 22:30.52 | cncfanatics | [2007/07/20 23:42:38-61-x367]: Threat-1.0-44250 (PitBull):449: table index is nil |
| 22:31.06 | cncfanatics | that should do Antiarc|Work ? |
| 22:31.13 | cncfanatics | I see other people's threat, but not my own |
| 22:31.32 | Antiarc|Work | Latest is 44368; lemme check that error. |
| 22:32.05 | Antiarc|Work | Hrm. Shouldn't be possible to get that, but I'll add a check. |
| 22:32.15 | cncfanatics | shouldnt ? :p |
| 22:32.21 | cncfanatics | seems it is :p but thanks for the fix :) |
| 22:32.32 | Kemayo | ckknight: Nope. I'm not in a group, though. |
| 22:32.50 | kergoth | ckknight, think you could expose setConfigMode or initOptions in the addon object? would like NShakedown to toggle parrot config mode |
| 22:32.52 | ckknight | and you don't get "You loot 5 Copper" messages? |
| 22:33.06 | ckknight | kergoth: what's NShakedown? |
| 22:33.10 | sb | ckknight: no you dont get money loot messages if not in group |
| 22:33.15 | ckknight | sb: I do |
| 22:33.16 | kergoth | it shows all the shit that isnt always shown |
| 22:33.17 | Kemayo | ckknight: Nope. |
| 22:33.21 | CIA-22 | 03antiarc * r44369 10Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0.lua: Threat-1.0: Add exists checks to UpdateTPS parameters |
| 22:33.22 | kergoth | bigwigs timer bars, classtimer timer bars, sct messages, etc |
| 22:33.30 | kergoth | so you can arrange all your addons so nothing overlaps |
| 22:33.33 | kergoth | its handy |
| 22:33.39 | sb | ckknight: hmm |
| 22:34.16 | sb | hmmmm |
| 22:34.19 | Antiarc|Work | ckknight: How hard is it to add new animation/fade patterns to parrot? |
| 22:34.28 | ckknight | fade patterns? |
| 22:34.35 | ckknight | fade is stuck at 80% |
| 22:34.47 | ckknight | animations are very easy |
| 22:34.50 | Antiarc|Work | Well, I mean, if I want to animate text and fade it out at a certain rate |
| 22:34.52 | ckknight | I'm changing it right now, though |
| 22:35.02 | ckknight | no, that's not something to control |
| 22:35.09 | Antiarc|Work | I'm thinking text that will rise for a given period, and then shoot off to the side while fading quickly. |
| 22:35.51 | Antiarc|Work | Being able to modify the scale of the font string as part of the animation would be pretty sexy too |
| 22:35.51 | ckknight | well, you can make it so that you shoot off the side at the 80% mark |
| 22:36.01 | sb | hmhm |
| 22:36.04 | ckknight | nah, that complicates things immensely |
| 22:36.10 | ckknight | though I'll consider it. |
| 22:36.12 | art3mis | boobies....yay \o/ |
| 22:36.18 | ckknight | well, boobies ftw |
| 22:36.20 | ckknight | no doubt about that. |
| 22:36.34 | Industrial | I only noticed this now but ppuh-leeeeze ckknight; "Give a much needed donation to the author of this addon." <-- this is your hobby, If you want to sink time into it well great but "much-needed"? get a job? |
| 22:36.38 | starlon | man boobies ftl |
| 22:36.38 | Industrial | imho. |
| 22:36.49 | ckknight | Industrial: I have a job in construction |
| 22:36.56 | sb | ckknight: mhh - wtf... i dont get any money loot messages :o |
| 22:36.58 | Antiarc|Work | Starving students can always use pizza money. |
| 22:37.02 | Antiarc|Work | This is a fact of life. |
| 22:37.05 | sb | is it possible to enable that message? |
| 22:37.12 | ckknight | beer is much-needed |
| 22:37.16 | ckknight | sb: not sure. |
| 22:37.27 | Industrial | so if you want more money get a job in IT. |
| 22:37.36 | Industrial | much needed, hah! |
| 22:37.42 | CIA-22 | 03mitchell 07AceAddon * r44370 10RangeDisplay/ (8 files): RangeDisplay: fixed all the drycode errors, should be OK now |
| 22:38.00 | ckknight | Industrial: I don't have a college degree |
| 22:38.06 | vhaarr | ckknight: Does Parrot have an API function I can call to get a list of available scroll areas, one that could be fed to a aceoptions type=text validate? |
| 22:38.09 | Industrial | so? show them your addons :P |
| 22:38.17 | vhaarr | GetScrollAreasValidate? |
| 22:38.25 | vhaarr | Parrot_ScrollAreas:GetScrollAreasValidate, that is |
| 22:38.28 | Antiarc|Work | ckknight: I don't have a college degree either, FWIW. |
| 22:38.29 | ckknight | vhaarr: Parrot:GetModule("ScrollAreas"):GetSCrollAreasValidate() |
| 22:38.39 | ckknight | vhaarr: why do you need ti? |
| 22:38.40 | ckknight | it* |
| 22:38.49 | Antiarc|Work | Smart employers are usually in the market for smart, quick people :) |
| 22:38.53 | ckknight | vhaarr: I'll likely expose it on Parrot itself, though |
| 22:39.04 | vhaarr | ckknight: so that people who configure their bigwigs to show the boss messages through parrot can set which scroll area to put them in |
| 22:39.27 | Chompers | i thought you were at uni ckknight? |
| 22:39.30 | Antiarc|Work | What would you all think of a SCT proxy library? |
| 22:39.31 | Antiarc|Work | Like |
| 22:39.32 | ckknight | Chompers: I am |
| 22:39.40 | ckknight | vhaarr: what you could do is register a combat event with Parrot |
| 22:39.45 | ckknight | and then trigger it properly |
| 22:39.47 | vhaarr | Antiarc|Work: I've already written one, but it's not checked in |
| 22:39.51 | Antiarc|Work | A library that lets you send a message, and the library figures out which SCT addon you're running and sends the message to it. |
| 22:40.01 | ckknight | vhaarr: just as an idea |
| 22:40.04 | Antiarc|Work | So SCT, or MSBT, or Blizzard SCT, or Parrot |
| 22:40.11 | Antiarc|Work | vhaarr: WTB PST |
| 22:40.17 | vhaarr | pst? |
| 22:40.22 | Antiarc|Work | Please send tell :P |
| 22:40.58 | Antiarc|Work | Basically, I'd like to take advantage of such an addon |
| 22:41.10 | vhaarr | let's see if I've completed it |
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| 22:41.44 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r44371 10Parrot/ScrollAreas.lua: Parrot_ScrollAreas - expose :GetScrollAreasValidate on the Parrot object. |
| 22:42.26 | break19 | Fisker-: I have now created a new twink guild on my server: This Naga Dont Play. lmao |
| 22:42.26 | ckknight | vhaarr: Parrot:GetScrollAreasValidate() |
| 22:42.48 | cncfanatics | break19, u shld make <Naga took my water> |
| 22:42.52 | vhaarr | ckknight: okay, thanks |
| 22:43.00 | break19 | cncfanatics: bah I like this one. heh |
| 22:43.14 | ckknight | oh damn, it's broken now. |
| 22:43.14 | Fisker- | DIE break19 |
| 22:43.15 | CIA-22 | 03sylvanaar * r44372 10Prat/extras/PratWaterfall.lua: Prat: Fix console command error |
| 22:43.17 | ckknight | nobody update Parrot |
| 22:43.43 | nobody_ | ckknight: ok, I will. |
| 22:44.20 | Fisker- | ok we won't ckknight ! |
| 22:44.24 | Fisker- | but this better be important! |
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| 22:45.43 | art3mis | read a book naga a fscking book naga read a book |
| 22:45.55 | Fisker- | naga please |
| 22:46.05 | art3mis | you saw that video yesterday right? |
| 22:46.11 | Fisker- | no |
| 22:48.20 | Fisker- | it's actually a miracle that the dwarf rogue bug was found |
| 22:48.21 | Fisker- | i mean |
| 22:48.27 | Fisker- | Nobody plays a dwarf rogue |
| 22:48.29 | Fisker- | seriously |
| 22:49.04 | charon | how can i bind prat's /gr (pick /ra /bg /p depending on group type) to a key? |
| 22:49.13 | art3mis | http://tinyurl.com/ys2xqh |
| 22:50.23 | Chompers | *female dwarf rogue |
| 22:50.41 | Chompers | they don't exist, dwarfs are a-sexual |
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| 22:51.29 | Fisker- | they exist |
| 22:51.32 | Fisker- | they just all have beards |
| 22:51.34 | Fisker- | hoho |
| 22:52.06 | Fisker- | http://reallifecomics.com/ <-btw not even a smile |
| 22:52.08 | Chompers | mmm, sexy |
| 22:52.09 | Fisker- | I won NIGHTMARE MODE |
| 22:52.27 | Chompers | you're a winner Fisker- |
| 22:54.16 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r44373 10Parrot/ (AnimationStyles.lua Display.lua): Parrot_AnimationStyles - change the registrations to be tablized instead of a list of args. |
| 22:54.57 | Chompers | Fisker-: wtf is this 'comic'? it's not funny at all |
| 22:55.04 | charon | how can i ask questions that actually get an answer? |
| 22:56.37 | ckknight | charon: if I answer you, it will have happened |
| 22:58.25 | vhaarr | CIA-22 lagging? |
| 22:58.53 | CIA-22 | 03rabbit * r44374 10BigWigs/Plugins/Messages.lua: BigWigs: Messages: Support setting the Parrot scrollarea to use for output. |
| 22:59.05 | vhaarr | right |
| 22:59.32 | vhaarr | ckknight: how about supporting RGB values to :ShowMessage as well? I mean, the :addmessage ends up as one anyway, doesn't it? |
| 22:59.50 | ckknight | :ShowMessage(text, scrollArea, sticky, color, font, fontSize, outline) |
| 22:59.55 | vhaarr | I have percentage RGB values in bw, now I have to convert them before I pass them in, and then you convert them back |
| 22:59.56 | ckknight | color is in "rrggbb" form |
| 23:00.08 | ckknight | mmm... yep |
| 23:00.21 | sb | mhh ckknight |
| 23:00.34 | ckknight | I think I actually had it feed r, g, b before, but changed it |
| 23:00.46 | vhaarr | well now we do 2 conversions when we don't really need any |
| 23:01.14 | sb | ckknight: i think i know the problem |
| 23:01.28 | sb | ckknight: wand with 1.9 speed |
| 23:01.36 | sb | its then 1.9 - not 1.5 |
| 23:01.43 | ckknight | sb: dude, I already fixed that. |
| 23:01.46 | sb | oh |
| 23:01.49 | sb | wtf? :) |
| 23:01.58 | ckknight | actually seeing as colors are saved on the db in "rrggbb" form, a conversion does occur |
| 23:02.00 | sb | *sigh* okay ;) |
| 23:02.04 | sb | sorry then :p |
| 23:03.19 | ckknight | vhaarr: I think I'll change how it works |
| 23:05.42 | cncfanatics | good night everyone |
| 23:05.49 | break19 | thunderstorm movin in.. bbl |
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| 23:07.59 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r44375 10Parrot/ (CombatEvents.lua Display.lua ScrollAreas.lua Triggers.lua): |
| 23:07.59 | CIA-22 | Parrot - change :ShowMessage(text, scrollArea, sticky, "rrggbb", font, fontSize, outline) => :ShowMessage(text, scrollArea, sticky, r, g, b, font, fontSize, outline). |
| 23:07.59 | CIA-22 | Third party addons that use the old form may break. |
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| 23:08.12 | ckknight | vhaarr: there we go |
| 23:09.28 | Esteth | Anyone know what the TaxiNodeOnButtonEnter function does, or a way to find out what a function does? I can see ToFu hooking it, but i'm not entirely sure when the function hook will be triggered, and wowwiki doesnt have a page on it :S |
| 23:09.44 | vhaarr | ckknight: sweet |
| 23:10.05 | vhaarr | ckknight: is it 0-1 or 1-255? |
| 23:10.38 | ckknight | [0, 1] |
| 23:10.42 | vhaarr | nice |
| 23:10.56 | ckknight | it actually simplifies some things for me |
| 23:11.05 | Kemayo | Esteth: Whenever you mouse over a flight point in the flight map. |
| 23:11.10 | ckknight | also, I really wish that lua supported named arguments like python |
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| 23:11.11 | CIA-22 | 03rabbit * r44376 10BigWigs/Plugins/Messages.lua: BigWigs: Messages: Update for Parrot API changes. |
| 23:11.25 | Esteth | Kemayo: Thanks a bunch :) |
| 23:11.34 | ckknight | I want to do func(alpha = bravo) |
| 23:11.43 | ckknight | *sigh* |
| 23:11.45 | ckknight | oh well |
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| 23:13.45 | sb | mhh vhaarr - can you set the scroll area? |
| 23:13.53 | sb | or notification only? |
| 23:14.04 | sb | ah |
| 23:14.04 | sb | there |
| 23:14.08 | sb | *updating* |
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| 23:18.49 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r44377 10Parrot/ (AnimationStyles.lua Display.lua): Parrot_AnimationStyles - now can have an init function, which will be called before the first placement of the fontstring. |
| 23:18.52 | ckknight | I think it might be about time to document Parrot properly. |
| 23:19.28 | ckknight | Antiarc|Work: I'm considering using your incode documentation thingy. Where do I start with that? |
| 23:19.51 | Antiarc|Work | http://www.wowace.com/wiki/Autodoc_Format |
| 23:20.41 | CIA-22 | 03sylvanaar * r44378 10Prat/ (Bindings.xml Prat_Modules/modules/Keybindings.lua): Prat: Keybind SmartGroup |
| 23:22.30 | sylvanaar | charon there ^^ |
| 23:22.36 | sb | mhm |
| 23:22.56 | sb | vhaarr: you could also define 'sticky' for some bw events, right? |
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| 23:26.44 | CIA-22 | 03durcyn * r44379 10BanzaiAlert/BanzaiAlert.lua: BanzaiAlert: update for new Parrot ShowMessage |
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| 23:29.59 | Chompers | What's a mixin? |
| 23:30.09 | sylvanaar | clearly you need a virtual chatframe module for Parrot |
| 23:30.29 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r44380 10Parrot/Display.lua: Parrot_Display - document using the Autodoc format. This is mostly to see if it works :-P. |
| 23:30.38 | ckknight | sylvanaar: that's actually a viable option. |
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| 23:30.59 | sylvanaar | Chompers interface A gets interface B added onto it, to become interface A+B |
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| 23:31.28 | sylvanaar | ckknight yeah, could be cool |
| 23:31.49 | Chompers | ah right thanks |
| 23:31.50 | ckknight | Antiarc|Work: how long does it take to propagate to the wiki? |
| 23:32.02 | Antiarc|Work | A maximum of 6 minutes after commit |
| 23:32.10 | Antiarc|Work | Unless Kaelten changed it |
| 23:33.01 | Antiarc|Work | http://www.wowace.com/wiki/Parrot should have it once it's up |
| 23:36.19 | xyu | Can anyone write me a grid lay out that just forms to whatever size group i have? :D |
| 23:36.49 | ckknight | ah, Antiarc|Work, cool, it's up |
| 23:36.57 | Antiarc|Work | Woot. |
| 23:37.04 | Industrial | you should have stopped typing and backspaced the line at "me" |
| 23:37.08 | Industrial | xyu: ^ |
| 23:37.10 | Antiarc|Work | Heh, that's pretty painless, eh? :) |
| 23:37.16 | sylvanaar | is threat wrapped completely in a function? |
| 23:37.27 | deltron | Industrial: heh I added you to last.fm |
| 23:37.34 | Industrial | \o/ |
| 23:37.44 | Antiarc|Work | sylvanaar: Yes, because it's a multi-file library that needs to be upgradable. |
| 23:38.29 | xyu | Industrial: Yep, never hurts to try. :D |
| 23:38.33 | RogueShadow | That seems incredibly easy to use. |
| 23:38.39 | RogueShadow | Just to show a random message. |
| 23:38.55 | RogueShadow | which is good, of course. |
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| 23:44.33 | Antiarc|Work | ckknight: Parrot's font parameter is "Emblem" as opposed to "Interface\Addons\Whatever\Emblem.ttf", correct? |
| 23:45.12 | ckknight | yes, and must be registered with SharedMedia-1.0 |
| 23:45.26 | Arrowmaster | what if its not? |
| 23:45.36 | Arrowmaster | does it error or fall back to a default? |
| 23:45.40 | Tinyboom | ckknight: works perfect no more magespam or gray loot in parrot:) |
| 23:45.53 | Antiarc|Work | If it's not then SML will return the default font |
| 23:45.57 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r44381 10Parrot/AnimationStyles.lua: Parrot_AnimationStyles - document in Autodoc format. |
| 23:45.58 | ckknight | Tinyboom: woo |
| 23:48.06 | ckknight | Antiarc|Work: issue |
| 23:48.25 | Antiarc|Work | ? |
| 23:48.32 | ckknight | Antiarc|Work: http://www.wowace.com/wiki/Parrot - Note: This documentation is auto-generated. Please note that direct modifications may be overwritten on next autogenerate. string boolean number number number string fontsize outline |
| 23:48.35 | ckknight | notice the last bit |
| 23:48.41 | Antiarc|Work | Hrm. |
| 23:48.41 | ckknight | string boolean number, etc. |
| 23:48.45 | ckknight | out of place |
| 23:48.56 | Antiarc|Work | Looks like debug text to me. |
| 23:49.03 | ckknight | yea |
| 23:49.09 | Antiarc|Work | I'll get it knocked out |
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| 23:50.11 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r44382 10Parrot/AnimationStyles.lua: Parrot_AnimationStyles - fix in documentation, hopefully. |
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| 23:53.15 | RogueShadow | My guess is, percent is going to be played from start to finish as 0-1. Based on everything that determin's how long the animation shows. ANd if I want animation I best use it. |
| 23:53.28 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r44383 10Parrot/ScrollAreas.lua: Parrot_ScrollAreas - document in AutoDoc format. |
| 23:53.55 | ckknight | RogueShadow: yep |
| 23:54.24 | RogueShadow | Only had to look twice. o.O But I get it. Maybe now I can come up with something. |
| 23:54.35 | RogueShadow | If I can think of something useful |
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| 23:55.15 | ckknight | Antiarc|Work: I need some way to have <pre> in autodoc while preserving whitespace... |
| 23:55.28 | ckknight | RogueShadow: my plan was to steal all of SCT's |
| 23:55.42 | RogueShadow | Not a bad plan really. |
| 23:56.06 | kenlyric | sigh, need level relative coloring in dogtag. |
| 23:56.24 | RogueShadow | It's great it's so easy to add more. Another addon could easily use parrot to define it's own scroll area, animation and messages and do whatever the heck it wants. |
| 23:56.32 | ckknight | kenlyric: it's in there somewhere |
| 23:56.33 | RogueShadow | Too bad I have zero idea's. |
| 23:56.49 | ckknight | RogueShadow: actually you can't define your own scroll areas, that's up to the user and the user alone |
| 23:56.56 | RogueShadow | ah. That's ok. |
| 23:57.13 | RogueShadow | As soon as I said it I knew I hadn't actually checked that. |
| 23:57.14 | ckknight | you can supply your own animation, trigger conditions, events, and arbitrary messages, though |
| 23:57.24 | Industrial | wowace.com/wiki/Cellular - "Development note: Because there can be a lot of features relating to an IM mod, I'm not accepting features requests. I suggest either checking out similar mods or contact Industrial. I am, however, open for bug reports and maybe options requests (thru forum PM)." |
| 23:57.25 | Antiarc|Work | ckknight: For which section? |
| 23:57.31 | ckknight | Antiarc|Work: Notes |
| 23:57.34 | Industrial | I have nothing to do with Cellular |
| 23:57.35 | Antiarc|Work | Ah. Hm. |
| 23:57.47 | Antiarc|Work | I'm heading home - I'll look at it there. |
| 23:57.47 | Mecdemort | is there a way to delete a frame you've created through CreateFrame()? |
| 23:57.55 | ckknight | Antiarc|Work: http://www.wowace.com/wiki/Parrot under Animation Styles |
| 23:58.00 | ckknight | Mecdemort: no |
| 23:59.15 | Mecdemort | ckknight: poo, it'll get removed if you relog tho right? |
| 23:59.25 | ckknight | yea |
| 23:59.31 | Mecdemort | ckknight: hokay |
