| 00:00.03 | kergoth | break19: read wowwiki's api docs. |
| 00:00.06 | kergoth | :P |
| 00:00.08 | Shirik | If it's at 5, check your combo points. |
| 00:00.16 | Shirik | If combo points are 5, display the message |
| 00:00.20 | Amadeo | Anyone have a story about the Warsong server? |
| 00:00.22 | break19 | kergoth: that place scares me |
| 00:00.37 | Shirik | break19: Then you'll never get anywhere, as much as I hate to sa y it |
| 00:00.42 | kergoth | indeed |
| 00:00.50 | break19 | i know, I know... |
| 00:01.00 | break19 | but its hard for us old dogs to learn new tricks |
| 00:01.44 | NightHawkAtWork | only if you keep insisting that it is. :P |
| 00:02.20 | break19 | thbbt |
| 00:02.51 | CIA-22 | 03sylvanaar * r44672 10FuBar_DebuggerFu/FuBar_DebuggerFu.lua: FuBar_DebuggerFu: Added the ability to toggle Debug-1.0's Log window and change its fonts sml style. I may just add this to Debug-1.0, since i was the last person to update it i assume the author is gone |
| 00:03.00 | break19 | ok, so it looks like GetPlayerBuffApplications("Deadly Poison") would return an int of 0-5 ? |
| 00:03.42 | break19 | or.. would it be nil if 0? |
| 00:03.47 | break19 | prolly nil..... |
| 00:04.12 | CIA-22 | 03sylvanaar * r44673 10Debug-1.0/Console-1.0/nLog.lua: Debug-1.0: Console registers with sml, and gives itself a name when its created |
| 00:05.33 | RogueShadow | You receive item: [Tough Jerky]x5. Or perhaps. You receive item: [Tough Jerky]x5. (21) Is there an addon that does that. Shows you the total number of the item you have in your inventory when you get some items. |
| 00:06.28 | durcyn | Parrot |
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| 00:09.57 | RogueShadow | mmm. I meant to say in the chat bar. But Parrot is ok. |
| 00:10.02 | Amadeo | Anyone play on an RP server? PvP or otherwise? |
| 00:10.10 | RogueShadow | I play on a PvP |
| 00:10.22 | Uhuru | vhaarr ? |
| 00:10.30 | Amadeo | I mean RP-PvP or just RP...just curious if people are hardcore about it |
| 00:10.32 | vhaarr | yes I read your query |
| 00:10.40 | ggilbert | Amadeo: it varies |
| 00:10.41 | Uhuru | ok thx |
| 00:10.47 | ZoidX | ((depends on the server)) |
| 00:11.00 | Amadeo | ggilbert: Does everyone sit around and cyber in Goldshire and such? :P |
| 00:11.16 | RogueShadow | ssickkk |
| 00:11.21 | ggilbert | goldshire was always a hellhole :) |
| 00:11.24 | Amadeo | hahha |
| 00:11.38 | ggilbert | People sit around rping in the various capitals |
| 00:11.43 | ZoidX | No way, Darkshire is where the real action is at. |
| 00:11.54 | RogueShadow | I was on an rp for 2 levels'. People were in the warlock trainer talking in thier native languages |
| 00:11.55 | RogueShadow | it was scary |
| 00:12.00 | Amadeo | I'm considering RP-PvP since the populations of all RP servers seem to be pretty stable |
| 00:12.40 | ggilbert | but for the most part it's not a big interference when you're just trying to play. At least as long as you're not doing/saying stuff to actively get in the way of people RPing |
| 00:12.41 | Amadeo | Who knows, I'm considering everything :P |
| 00:13.18 | RogueShadow | Where does thou goest |
| 00:13.26 | RogueShadow | Need ye help sir? |
| 00:13.45 | Amadeo | Yes, meet me in the Tram |
| 00:14.03 | RogueShadow | *sigh* Flog like cookie. Flog take cookie. Die |
| 00:14.21 | RogueShadow | It's funny when people rp being stupid |
| 00:14.27 | RogueShadow | funny part is, it really was an act |
| 00:14.41 | Wobin_ | hehe we have Pixi =) |
| 00:14.44 | Wobin_ | She's fantastic |
| 00:14.53 | Wobin_ | She RP's everything in third person |
| 00:15.06 | Wobin_ | Which would normally drive me insane, but she pulls it off well |
| 00:15.17 | Wobin_ | It doesn't hurt she's a fantastic mage too |
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| 00:15.45 | RogueShadow | As long as she doesn't take 3 days to cast a fireball |
| 00:16.00 | Wobin_ | Well no, she'd just burn it down without commentary |
| 00:16.07 | RogueShadow | <3 that noob comic, but whoever posted the link should die, I read it for hours non stop |
| 00:16.10 | Wobin_ | As I said, she was a -good- mage =) |
| 00:16.51 | Amadeo | Warsong looks pretty balanced, but it's a high population (Full) server |
| 00:17.20 | break19 | hmmm... does the PLAYER_COMBO_POINTS event fire even if I have 5 combo points, but use an ability that would've added another if I hadnt been maxed? |
| 00:17.34 | break19 | if so, it would seem that'd be the best event to use for my addon... |
| 00:18.31 | CIA-22 | 03cryect * r44674 10Recount/Sync.lua: Recount - Back to syncing just for yourself till I get a chance to figure out whats going haywire |
| 00:19.16 | break19 | thanks for the info :P guess I'll just assume it does, and go from there. lol |
| 00:19.34 | Cryect | test |
| 00:19.50 | Cryect | heh kinda something most people likely wouldn't have tested |
| 00:20.37 | JoshBorke | TEST?! TEST?! |
| 00:20.39 | JoshBorke | how dare you cryect |
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| 00:23.14 | Wobin_ | Kemayo: you about? |
| 00:23.16 | Wobin_ | Kemayo: http://www.pastey.net/71220 |
| 00:23.24 | CIA-22 | 03sylvanaar * r44675 10Debug-1.0/Console-1.0/ (LogConsole-1.0.lua nLog.lua): Debug-1.0: Rename |
| 00:25.06 | Kemayo | Wobin_: Ah, yes, random nulls sprinkled through unicode strings, which python libs choke on horriby. Always fun. |
| 00:25.25 | break19 | where might I find the api for soar? |
| 00:25.45 | Kemayo | Actually, that's not a null. But it's something unicodey, and python expected ascii. |
| 00:26.06 | Wobin_ | why does it try to comment out stuff? |
| 00:26.10 | Cryect | JoshBorke: don't worry most the syncing stuff doesn't go through too much in testing before its up! |
| 00:26.22 | Cryect | mainly because I can't snap my finger for a 25 man raid :-p |
| 00:26.32 | Kemayo | Wobin_: Same reason as people swapped to embeds.xml. Load times. |
| 00:26.39 | JoshBorke | still, i'm shocked and appalled. SHOCKED AND APPALED |
| 00:26.56 | Wobin_ | ..and missing an 'l' |
| 00:27.10 | Cryect | josh is trying to save on load times |
| 00:27.23 | Wobin_ | he'd be 'shkd n apld' then |
| 00:27.32 | break19 | appalled and a-paled.. wow.. thats not something you see everyday |
| 00:27.41 | CIA-22 | 03sylvanaar * r44676 10Debug-1.0/ (Console-1.0/ Debug-1.0.toc DebugUI-1.0/): Debug-1.0: Restructure |
| 00:28.50 | [Liquidor] | BigWigs still the 'thing' or is there something new? |
| 00:28.56 | Wobin_ | Still the 'thing' |
| 00:28.57 | [Liquidor] | Haven't done any PvE in TBC (before now) |
| 00:29.00 | Wobin_ | BigWigs and LittleWigs |
| 00:29.08 | [Liquidor] | So could be there was something new |
| 00:29.15 | [Liquidor] | LittleWigs? |
| 00:29.23 | Cryect | 5 mans |
| 00:29.23 | Wobin_ | BigWigs for the 5man |
| 00:29.26 | [Liquidor] | Simple version? |
| 00:29.28 | [Liquidor] | oh |
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| 00:29.46 | [Liquidor] | That sounds weird, Big for 5 and Little for bigger? |
| 00:29.54 | Wobin_ | er no |
| 00:30.09 | Wobin_ | It's 'LittleWigs is Bigwigs for the 5 man instances' |
| 00:30.16 | [Liquidor] | arh okay |
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| 00:30.31 | Uhuru | vhaarr ? |
| 00:32.12 | vhaarr | yes what |
| 00:33.00 | Diao | well that's a first |
| 00:33.05 | Diao | holy paladin using a 2h for pvp |
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| 00:41.10 | CIA-22 | 03durcyn * r44677 10BanzaiAlert/BanzaiAlert.lua: BanzaiAlert: use soar if we have it. Needs localization. |
| 00:42.19 | CIA-22 | 03durcyn 07Soar * r44678 10BanzaiAlert/: remove Soar branch, merged to trunk |
| 00:47.06 | ckknight | hey all |
| 00:48.05 | break19 | hey ck |
| 00:48.21 | break19 | hey.. someone look at this... http://ace.pastey.net/71222 - tell me why I cant register the event? |
| 00:48.43 | break19 | <- noob :p |
| 00:49.14 | sb | hey ckknight |
| 00:49.37 | sb | mhm |
| 00:50.01 | break19 | is that event not in aceevent? |
| 00:50.09 | ckknight | break19: did you get an error? |
| 00:50.12 | sb | why self? |
| 00:50.24 | sb | VenomX:RegisterEvent!? |
| 00:50.28 | break19 | sb, why not? i dunno honestly.. Im hacking... |
| 00:50.30 | sb | or vx: |
| 00:50.30 | sb | hm |
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| 00:50.36 | sb | no idea :) |
| 00:50.52 | durcyn | depends on how the libraries are invoked |
| 00:50.54 | break19 | ck. yea...[2007/07/23 19:45:24-258-x1]: Envenom\core.lua:13: AceEvent-2.0: Cannot register event "PLAYER_COMBO_POINTS" to method "CheckPoisons", it does not exist |
| 00:50.54 | ckknight | no, sb |
| 00:50.59 | sb | no? hm |
| 00:51.14 | sb | CheckPoisons |
| 00:51.17 | sb | vs. CheckPoison |
| 00:51.19 | sb | *stab* :p |
| 00:51.24 | ckknight | break19: do you realize that CheckPoison ≠ CheckPoisons? |
| 00:51.25 | ckknight | :-P |
| 00:51.30 | break19 | woops |
| 00:51.38 | durcyn | SerchezPoisson, imo |
| 00:51.38 | break19 | thnx |
| 00:51.46 | ckknight | break19: change self.GetComboPoints() to _G.GetComboPoints() |
| 00:51.49 | break19 | zomgpoisons |
| 00:51.52 | break19 | ok |
| 00:51.57 | ckknight | same with self.GetPlayerBuffApplications |
| 00:51.57 | [Liquidor] | Any ace version of AtlasLoot (hopefully not AtlasLoot converted) |
| 00:52.09 | durcyn | [Liquidor]: er, Cartographer_InstanceLoot |
| 00:52.10 | ckknight | [Liquidor]: oh yea, there is |
| 00:52.18 | ckknight | [Liquidor]: it's called AtlasLoot :-P |
| 00:52.24 | [Liquidor] | ckknight, go away !! |
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| 00:52.48 | ckknight | break19: self:SoarNotify("cp Combo Points!") => self:SoarNotify(("%d Combo Points!"):format(cp)) |
| 00:52.50 | [Liquidor] | How does _InstanceLoot show/list the loots? |
| 00:52.53 | break19 | [Liquidor]: be nice to him.. he can make you go away |
| 00:53.04 | break19 | ckknight: yea.. I was gonna get to that after I made sure it worked first :p |
| 00:53.08 | durcyn | in a list. of loot. |
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| 00:53.23 | durcyn | the hell do you want, a video tour? |
| 00:53.31 | ckknight | [Liquidor]: on the side of Cartographer, in a pane |
| 00:53.57 | Antiarc | I need to figure out how to get Soar to expose an aceoptions table containing valid scroll areas for the installed mod |
| 00:54.00 | break19 | hm... did I not set soar up right? |
| 00:54.08 | [Liquidor] | ckknight, super. |
| 00:54.41 | Antiarc | break19: Include Soar-1.0 in your mix-ins |
| 00:54.50 | Antiarc | VenomX = AceLibrary("AceAddon-2.0"):new("AceEvent-2.0", "AceDB-2.0", "Soar-1.0") |
| 00:54.59 | break19 | Antiarc: thats the problem here? [2007/07/23 19:53:30-259-x1]: Envenom\core.lua:20: attempt to call method 'SoarNotify' (a nil value) |
| 00:55.03 | Antiarc | yes |
| 00:55.05 | break19 | ahh ok |
| 00:55.13 | break19 | im pickin up bits n pieces then |
| 00:56.20 | break19 | im guessing that if I dont have any deadlys im gonna get some nils..... i'll get to that after I get the hang of it |
| 00:57.37 | Chompers | ckknight: have you been watching john from cincinnati? |
| 00:57.43 | ckknight | no |
| 00:57.49 | ckknight | what's it about? |
| 00:58.02 | Chompers | i know you watch a few programs that i also like, you might enjoy it |
| 00:58.23 | Chompers | its about a guy called john who visits a small town known for surfing |
| 00:58.45 | Chompers | i don't want to spoil too much of it, but its really good. if you liked deadwood you'll like this |
| 00:58.55 | ckknight | deadwood moved a bit too slow for me |
| 00:59.03 | Chompers | true |
| 00:59.40 | Chompers | it's very original, like a lot of hbo programmes |
| 00:59.57 | durcyn | Antiarc: hrm, threat still increasing during Insignificance on Bloodboil encounter |
| 01:00.14 | Antiarc | durcyn: From mana gains? |
| 01:00.20 | Antiarc | Slowly, or normal pace? |
| 01:00.34 | durcyn | seems like from damage, will keep testing |
| 01:00.48 | Antiarc | what locale? |
| 01:00.52 | durcyn | enUS |
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| 01:01.41 | Antiarc | Hrm |
| 01:01.51 | Antiarc | See what you can find out, and lemme know what you find out |
| 01:01.56 | Chompers | ckknight: also the terminator tv series, the pilot episodes out |
| 01:01.56 | Antiarc | I'll doublecheck it on my end |
| 01:02.06 | ckknight | yea, I saw it |
| 01:02.06 | Chompers | looks like it could be a good show |
| 01:02.10 | ckknight | it was pretty shiny |
| 01:02.21 | ckknight | though I didn't like the idea of a teeny-bopper terminator |
| 01:02.24 | Chompers | some awesome effects for a tv show |
| 01:02.27 | Funkeh` | pilot show? |
| 01:02.29 | Funkeh` | link |
| 01:03.13 | Chompers | can't :< |
| 01:03.42 | Funkeh` | why :o |
| 01:04.26 | Chompers | i can tell you where it is though |
| 01:05.03 | Chompers | a.b.multimedia - The.Sarah.Connor.Chronicles.S01E01.PREAIR.DVDRip.XviD-CRX |
| 01:05.22 | Chompers | posted about 24 hours ago |
| 01:06.23 | [Liquidor] | is WAU 1.8 not downloadable anymore? |
| 01:07.32 | break19 | im guessing "if cp=5 then" isnt how to compare ints? |
| 01:07.36 | KriLL3 | I wish WAU could update itself |
| 01:07.46 | Funkeh` | Chompers: got it thanks |
| 01:07.50 | Funkeh` | <3 eztv |
| 01:07.55 | Wobin_ | I hate the armoury =\ |
| 01:08.23 | KriLL3 | because you can't log out while wearing a thong? |
| 01:08.28 | sb | Chompers: oh hm - thats terminator sarah connor, right? :p |
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| 01:08.38 | Shirik | break: use == |
| 01:08.45 | Shirik | like most modern languages |
| 01:08.46 | break19 | oh |
| 01:08.52 | Chompers | yeah sb |
| 01:08.57 | break19 | as i said.. I'm old school :p |
| 01:09.01 | sb | mhm |
| 01:09.03 | sb | wtb |
| 01:09.03 | break19 | wayyyyy old school |
| 01:09.14 | sb | *waiting* |
| 01:09.44 | Shirik | uh |
| 01:09.48 | KriLL3 | break19: you think e-mail is sending punch cards in cardboard boxes? |
| 01:10.02 | Funkeh` | Chompers: lol @ 700mb :/ |
| 01:10.35 | break19 | KriLL3: no.. its sending morsecode over telegraph |
| 01:11.34 | Chompers | it's that big Funkeh` :O |
| 01:11.37 | break19 | bingo! my addon is now in semi-working stage.. just gotta put it thru the paces on a rogue with envenom |
| 01:14.47 | Wobin_ | Kemayo: what can be done about that unicode thing? |
| 01:15.46 | [Liquidor] | http://img406.imageshack.us/img406/8606/wowscrnshot072407020955ys3.jpg <3 |
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| 01:16.16 | Kemayo | Wobin_: Well, as a somewhat lazy solution, if you update, you'll find that the TOC stuff is optional and disabled by default. |
| 01:16.22 | break19 | and now.. I've been thinking... maybe using the combopoints event isnt such a good idea.. cuz what if, before I have enough energy for envenom/eviscerate, that 5th poison is applied.. it'd still say eviscerate... |
| 01:16.36 | break19 | but thats another problem for another day :) |
| 01:17.50 | Wobin_ | Kemayo: And the long term solution? =) |
| 01:18.09 | Wobin_ | hm, It's BigWigs that caused the issue |
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| 01:22.28 | CIA-22 | 03mist 07Mist * r44679 10Hourglass/Hourglass/ (Locale-deDE.lua Locale-enUS.lua core.lua): |
| 01:22.28 | CIA-22 | Hourglass (branch): |
| 01:22.28 | CIA-22 | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:22.28 | CIA-22 | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:22.40 | CIA-22 | 03krakhaan * r44680 10CraftBot/ (13 files): |
| 01:22.40 | CIA-22 | CraftBot: initial commit |
| 01:22.40 | CIA-22 | - CraftBot will be your customers' best friend for in-game crafting information. |
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| 01:26.31 | Xuerian | ckknight: Ping |
| 01:26.35 | ckknight | pong |
| 01:26.54 | KriLL3 | inf/0 = ? |
| 01:27.09 | ckknight | KriLL3: still inf |
| 01:27.21 | KriLL3 | much larger inf! |
| 01:27.41 | ckknight | technically. |
| 01:27.53 | ckknight | but IEEE-754 can't tell the difference |
| 01:28.01 | Xuerian | ckknight: Am I missing the option in parrot, or is there a way to determine the center point for animations? With msbt (I mention it because parrot is supposed to mimic it >.>), I set the scroll area to say, the left side, with a right-down parabola, and the text would start and end on the edge of the screen. Possible in parrot? |
| 01:28.29 | CIA-22 | 03sylvanaar * r44681 10Debug-1.0/DebugUI-1.0/ (Debug-1.0.toc LogConsole-1.0.lua): Debug-1.0: Format tweaks, copied toc for moving the UI to another addon |
| 01:28.29 | Xuerian | [Liquidor]: Nice |
| 01:28.50 | ckknight | Xuerian: hrm, not in any real fashion... I think I might take off the whole clamp to screen thing |
| 01:28.55 | ckknight | that'll fix it |
| 01:29.03 | Xuerian | ckknight: That'd be great =D |
| 01:29.40 | Xuerian | Or at least use a smaller parent frame for the configuration frame[s] that is locked, to prevent loosing it entirely |
| 01:30.09 | [Liquidor] | You guys want to know my oppenion? |
| 01:30.22 | [Liquidor] | Use Blizz' SCT... the end |
| 01:30.53 | [Liquidor] | Altho I'm sure you answered no to my former question :) |
| 01:31.25 | Funkeh` | heh |
| 01:31.25 | Funkeh` | i use fct also |
| 01:31.34 | Funkeh` | works fine for what i need =) |
| 01:32.48 | sylvanaar | lol, i forgot how to unlock my chatframes |
| 01:32.56 | Fin | sylvanaar: right click the tab :) |
| 01:33.01 | durcyn | Antiarc: nevermind that last, i was watching TPS and percent like a tard. |
| 01:33.03 | CIA-22 | 03grayhoof * r44682 10Proximo/ (5 files): |
| 01:33.03 | CIA-22 | Proximo: |
| 01:33.03 | CIA-22 | -Added Version Check (beta). |
| 01:33.03 | CIA-22 | -Added option to cast spell on right click. |
| 01:33.03 | CIA-22 | -Cleaned up options. |
| 01:33.24 | sylvanaar | no, the tabs are hidden |
| 01:33.35 | Fin | unhide them? :) |
| 01:33.40 | sylvanaar | meh |
| 01:33.56 | Fin | I have the same problem |
| 01:34.11 | Fin | I've got a bunch of aliases for hiding / unhiding the tabs so that I can lock & unlock them :) |
| 01:34.12 | Xuerian | ckknight: Actually there's a slight problem. curently, if you were to place a scroll area all the way to one side, the sticky text would be halfway cut off.... |
| 01:34.39 | Fin | sylvanaar: add something to Prat so you can lock / unlock chat frames with a slash command :) |
| 01:34.40 | ckknight | you can fix that by changing the alignment to left-aligned or right-aligned |
| 01:34.41 | sylvanaar | i used the prat menu - it was just funny that i couldnt do it |
| 01:36.52 | sylvanaar | lol http://www.wowinsider.com/category/addons/ |
| 01:37.44 | Xuerian | ckknight: ... too logical >_> |
| 01:39.51 | Gagorian | ckknight: Is there a way to edit the overheal text? Now it's something like +[Amount] (Overheal [Overheal]), I wouldn't need that extra text cluttering |
| 01:40.08 | Diao | it's in the incoming healing |
| 01:40.09 | ckknight | of course there's a ay |
| 01:40.10 | ckknight | way* |
| 01:40.14 | ckknight | no, Dia |
| 01:40.15 | ckknight | o |
| 01:40.25 | ckknight | go to Events -> Partial Effects -> Overheal |
| 01:40.30 | Gagorian | Thanks |
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| 01:41.15 | Antiarc | You know |
| 01:42.55 | Antiarc | There are few things quite as entertaining as taunting your hungry Alaskan guildmate about the fact that you have Taco Bell and she doesn't have one for 200 miles. |
| 01:43.12 | Gagorian | ffs I'm hungry too. |
| 01:43.14 | Kalman| | Antiarc: Take pictures and email them to her. |
| 01:43.18 | Shirik | is this too esoteric? local self = setmetatable(table.remove(Events.pool) or {}, Events); |
| 01:43.22 | Antiarc | How do you think I taunted her? |
| 01:43.22 | Kalman| | Now *that's* entertainment. |
| 01:43.22 | Antiarc | http://img241.imageshack.us/img241/8608/welfeil2.jpg |
| 01:43.26 | Kalman| | Hahaha. |
| 01:43.41 | Kalman| | I like the EBB overlay. |
| 01:43.47 | Kalman| | Nice touch. |
| 01:43.59 | Chompers | mmm, i want one of those Antiarc |
| 01:44.04 | Chompers | i bet they're nice? |
| 01:44.08 | Antiarc | Delicious. |
| 01:44.22 | Gagorian | I'm REALLY hungry. |
| 01:44.43 | kebinusan | bleh I dunno what changed but now I cant seem to get my damn mic input to be seen in wine for ventrilo |
| 01:45.12 | kebinusan | at least not when wow is open its like wow decided to hog my sound card or something |
| 01:46.00 | Kaydeethree | kebinusan, I've yet to even bother to try playing with a mic... have been playing with wow and vent for nearly 2 years on linux now |
| 01:46.33 | Shirik | Antiarc: You code omen right? |
| 01:46.36 | Antiarc | Yup |
| 01:47.10 | Shirik | question from a guildie |
| 01:47.10 | Shirik | well, more of a statement, but I figured it might be adjustable |
| 01:47.10 | Shirik | "1. the sliding and rolling of bars and numbers take more time to determin were you are in respect to others and can cause mistakes. like over or under DPS threat." |
| 01:47.19 | Kalman| | so turn off bar animation? |
| 01:47.23 | Shirik | I yelled at him, but then I figured I'd ask you if there's a way to turn it off |
| 01:47.26 | Shirik | out of curiosity |
| 01:47.29 | Antiarc | You can turn it off, yes |
| 01:47.29 | Shirik | that's what I figured :P |
| 01:47.36 | Antiarc | Display -> skin settings -> bars -> animate bars |
| 01:47.38 | Antiarc | The animation is 0.2 sec though |
| 01:47.47 | Antiarc | So uh, you have to be like Flash Gordan for it to be significant |
| 01:47.52 | Chompers | 26k to 60 |
| 01:47.54 | Shirik | I yelled at him anyway: That can be adjusted too wink.gif But to be honest, if you're that close, there's a bit of a problem tongue.gif You shouldn't be coming that close to people, because ALL threat meters are only a guess at best. They are a tool, not a replacement for watching your own threat. |
| 01:47.56 | Chompers | must...grind |
| 01:47.59 | Shirik | I just didn't know if that's true, so I figured I'd ask |
| 01:48.06 | Antiarc | Yup. |
| 01:48.18 | Shirik | thanks :) |
| 01:48.23 | sb | mhmm |
| 01:48.27 | Kaydeethree | ... "wink.gif"? |
| 01:48.28 | sb | wink.gif, tongue.gif? |
| 01:48.33 | Kaydeethree | heh |
| 01:48.37 | Chompers | anus.gif |
| 01:48.41 | Shirik | eh, I copied it off the forums |
| 01:48.46 | Shirik | it was ;) and :P |
| 01:49.50 | Shirik | so, anyone have any comments? |
| 01:49.57 | Shirik | is this too much? |
| 01:50.04 | Shirik | local self = setmetatable(table.remove(Events.pool) or {}, Events); |
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| 01:51.06 | sylvanaar | anyone work with FauxScrollFrames much? |
| 01:51.30 | Antiarc | I've done work with them |
| 01:53.15 | sylvanaar | best way to achieve "AutoScroll"? |
| 01:55.15 | sylvanaar | seems like i'd have to do alot of work to get it to stay scrolled down |
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| 01:56.07 | CIA-22 | 03sayclub * r44683 10Proximo/localization-koKR.lua: |
| 01:56.07 | CIA-22 | Proximo : |
| 01:56.07 | CIA-22 | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:56.13 | Wobin_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:56.27 | Ville | yes? |
| 01:56.47 | Ville | probably not the person you're thinking of though |
| 01:57.00 | Wobin_ | probably not =) |
| 01:57.01 | Ville | if you know some one by that name |
| 01:57.04 | Ville | lol |
| 01:57.06 | Ville | sorry to mislead |
| 01:57.17 | vyll | ok |
| 01:57.19 | vyll | better? |
| 01:57.30 | vyll | that way you'll be able to distinguish |
| 01:57.32 | Wobin_ | oh don't change on my behalf =) |
| 01:57.36 | vyll | hehe |
| 01:57.38 | vyll | its cool |
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| 01:57.50 | vyll | i dont want people to be all 'hey! whats up buddy!?' |
| 01:57.58 | Wobin_ | It was just the disjunction between "Ore" and "Ville" that brought it to mind =) |
| 01:58.12 | vyll | hahah! |
| 01:58.13 | vyll | oooooh |
| 01:58.16 | vyll | gotcha |
| 01:58.24 | ckknight | hey buddy |
| 01:58.25 | vyll | no, my rogues name is 'Orevillte' |
| 01:58.31 | vyll | i get that all the time though :) |
| 01:59.04 | vyll | so, i came to the channel cause i need some help with addons |
| 01:59.15 | vyll | not help so much as advice |
| 01:59.24 | sylvanaar | Antiarc maybe i can just sent in a negative vertical scroll for MAXINT or whatever lua calls it |
| 02:00.02 | vyll | does anyone play a rogue? |
| 02:00.09 | vyll | *anyone else |
| 02:00.50 | Kalman| | Not anymore. |
| 02:01.10 | Wobin_ | yeah |
| 02:01.40 | vyll | well, ive been looking for a really clean interface for my rogue. |
| 02:01.51 | CIA-22 | 03krakhaan * r44684 10CraftBot/CraftBot.toc: |
| 02:01.51 | CIA-22 | CraftBot: |
| 02:01.51 | CIA-22 | - relocated external libs to libs folder |
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| 02:02.05 | *** mode/#wowace [+v Shirik] by ChanServ |
| 02:05.29 | vyll | not a whole bunch of frames, something to maximize the space i have on screen so i can see more of whats going on in the raid |
| 02:05.53 | vyll | any suggestions? |
| 02:06.03 | Chompers | 9k to 60 :D |
| 02:06.05 | Chompers | getting closer |
| 02:06.11 | vyll | lol, grats |
| 02:06.27 | vyll | that was a difficult push for me too |
| 02:06.41 | Chompers | being a paladin didn't help |
| 02:06.50 | vyll | ooch |
| 02:06.53 | vyll | what spec? |
| 02:06.59 | Chompers | retri |
| 02:07.03 | vyll | ahh |
| 02:07.12 | vyll | never rolled a paladin |
| 02:07.22 | Chompers | i tried the whole aoe grinding, couldn't get on with it |
| 02:07.33 | vyll | mages are better for that reall |
| 02:07.38 | vyll | *really |
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| 02:07.40 | CIA-22 | 03krakhaan * r44685 10CraftBotFu/ (5 files): |
| 02:07.40 | CIA-22 | CraftBotFu: initial commit |
| 02:07.40 | CIA-22 | - FuBar plugin for CraftBot |
| 02:07.59 | Wobin_ | mages are more squishy |
| 02:08.05 | Wobin_ | I can only aoe grind with a tank |
| 02:08.08 | vyll | thats true |
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| 02:08.19 | Wobin_ | My latency doesn't allow for solo aoe =\ |
| 02:08.26 | vyll | bummer |
| 02:09.21 | Wobin_ | vyll: Well in general, I'd say use FuBar, to keep most stuff off your screen, keep the minimap in the corner or mid bottom... are you a mouserogue, or a keybound one? |
| 02:09.25 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r44686 10Parrot/Code/ScrollAreas.lua: Parrot_ScrollAreas - using mystical hax, scroll areas are no longer fully clamped to the screen, instead only the centerpoint is. |
| 02:09.48 | Wobin_ | ckknight: It's nailed to the perch! |
| 02:09.54 | ckknight | perch? |
| 02:10.07 | Wobin_ | This sir, is an EX-PARROT |
| 02:10.28 | Chompers | it's more machine than parrot |
| 02:10.38 | Chompers | rise of the cyber-parrots |
| 02:10.39 | Wobin_ | cyborgparrot? |
| 02:10.41 | CIA-22 | 03krakhaan * r44687 10CraftBotFu/: |
| 02:10.41 | CIA-22 | CraftBotFu: |
| 02:10.41 | CIA-22 | - added externals |
| 02:11.11 | Wobin_ | hehe I remember writing a parrot pet on the Mud. |
| 02:11.17 | Wobin_ | You could train it to repeat stuff |
| 02:11.27 | Wobin_ | or it would pick up random speech from passers by |
| 02:14.13 | Chompers | sounds cool |
| 02:15.18 | buu | "No it’s true. I don’t know where the idea comes from that banish can’t be broken- why would that be the case when all other classes similar immobilisation spell, like sheep and sap, can be broken easily. Warlocks are so different and Blizz likes them more ?? Come one, even aggro can be broken. This is just a stupid myth of course it can be broken" |
| 02:15.23 | buu | Oh man, the internet is awesome |
| 02:15.58 | Kalman| | For one patch, it could be broken. It was so nice. :/ |
| 02:16.09 | ckknight | buu: link? |
| 02:16.22 | CIA-22 | 03krakhaan * r44688 10CraftBotFu/: |
| 02:16.22 | CIA-22 | CraftBotFu: |
| 02:16.22 | CIA-22 | - added externals |
| 02:16.38 | durcyn | banish can and does fail the resist check and break early. |
| 02:17.00 | Antiarc | I think that poster meant voluntarily, though |
| 02:17.11 | vyll | sorry about that, kind of both, i use one hand to use key' |
| 02:17.12 | durcyn | oh. just banish another demon, duh! |
| 02:17.13 | durcyn | :o |
| 02:17.14 | vyll | gah |
| 02:17.30 | vyll | keys 1-6 and mouse is 7-= key |
| 02:18.12 | vyll | mostly so i can turn fast and move away from raid boss events |
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| 02:20.04 | vyll | and how would i position the map in the lower middle of the screen |
| 02:20.21 | vyll | er what mod? |
| 02:20.33 | Antiarc | simpleMinimap |
| 02:20.40 | vyll | cool |
| 02:23.31 | Antiarc | http://img241.imageshack.us/img241/8498/rogueuifb9.jpg |
| 02:23.33 | Antiarc | Moi UI |
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| 02:24.25 | Kalman| | What, no Omen? :p |
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| 02:24.45 | Kalman| | Oh, nvm, there it is. |
| 02:25.03 | Kalman| | Damn, I thought I was funny. :( |
| 02:25.35 | CIA-22 | 03darchon * r44689 10Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0.lua: Threat-1.0: koKR Update |
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| 02:29.15 | poul|raider | anyone seen or know a link to formular for rupture ? |
| 02:29.19 | poul|raider | based ap |
| 02:30.10 | Antiarc | 15% of AP to damage, I believe |
| 02:30.13 | Antiarc | Same as the other rogue finishers. |
| 02:30.49 | poul|raider | so 1000dmg + 15% of ap? |
| 02:30.58 | poul|raider | 1000dmg as tooltip says |
| 02:31.02 | Wobin_ | hm, I should go about making my ui more usable |
| 02:31.07 | Antiarc | Think so, yeah |
| 02:31.10 | Wobin_ | Antiarc: what do you use for the framing? |
| 02:31.16 | Antiarc | Framing? |
| 02:31.17 | poul|raider | mangle is 30%? |
| 02:31.27 | Wobin_ | skins? |
| 02:31.37 | Antiarc | I'm not sure I understand |
| 02:31.43 | Antiarc | My unit frames? |
| 02:31.50 | Antiarc | The chat boxes? |
| 02:31.56 | Wobin_ | the boxes behind the buttons etc |
| 02:32.02 | Antiarc | eePanels |
| 02:32.06 | Wobin_ | kk |
| 02:32.15 | Arrowmaster | that EBB or EBBs? |
| 02:32.19 | Arrowmaster | looks like EBB |
| 02:32.23 | Antiarc | EBB |
| 02:32.34 | Arrowmaster | heh, so im not the only person still using it |
| 02:33.43 | Chompers | e-tps? |
| 02:33.59 | Antiarc | encounter TPS |
| 02:34.02 | Antiarc | As opposed to local TPS |
| 02:34.41 | Arrowmaster | so threat/totalfighttime? |
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| 02:34.47 | Chompers | not bad |
| 02:34.49 | Antiarc | Yeah, basically. |
| 02:36.53 | Diao | hmm |
| 02:37.06 | vyll | eePanels is that silver look at the bottom of the screen there? |
| 02:37.42 | RogueShadow | strangest thing happened to me I afk'd out and when I came back I wasn't in a guild, but my tabard is correct, and the title of the guild window is correct. talk about weird. |
| 02:37.49 | poul|raider | Antiarc, cant get it to sum up with 1k + 15 of ap. my ruptures are some place from 270 -300 pr tick almost 2k-2400dmg |
| 02:37.59 | poul|raider | without any talents |
| 02:38.06 | Antiarc | In a raid? |
| 02:38.20 | poul|raider | ye, around 3k ap and mangle up |
| 02:38.22 | Antiarc | Blood Frenzy may be affecting it |
| 02:38.27 | poul|raider | naa |
| 02:38.31 | poul|raider | dont have any with that atm |
| 02:38.48 | vyll | antiarc, is that your interface? |
| 02:38.51 | Antiarc | Yes, vyll |
| 02:39.10 | vyll | thats kind of what im looking for |
| 02:39.14 | vyll | its really clean |
| 02:39.26 | Antiarc | I just kinda cobbled it together with your standard Ace fare. |
| 02:40.19 | poul|raider | www.borkedguild.net/grafic/screen/WoWScrnShot_072407_043920.jpg |
| 02:40.26 | poul|raider | i need to do something about the center |
| 02:40.31 | poul|raider | look to messy |
| 02:40.54 | Gngsk | way too busy for a rogue UI |
| 02:40.58 | haste | http://beverpung.net/images/games/wow/Otravi/temp/WoWScrnShot_072407_012010.jpg I challenge your rogue ui! |
| 02:41.04 | vyll | yah, too much for me |
| 02:41.26 | vyll | wow, thats clean |
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| 02:41.35 | Gngsk | haste's isn't busy enough! |
| 02:41.42 | vyll | lol |
| 02:41.46 | haste | ignore the cp's, I've fixed that :p |
| 02:41.58 | Hjalte | haste, I can't see your picture :\ |
| 02:42.07 | haste | dns hasn't updated probably |
| 02:42.15 | haste | I can uplaod it somewhere else |
| 02:42.17 | vyll | how do i register for the irc channel? |
| 02:42.34 | poul|raider | www.borkedguild.net/grafic/screen/WoWScrnShot_072407_044056.jpg was some buffs on that also :P |
| 02:42.40 | poul|raider | but hmm to bussy for rogue? |
| 02:42.42 | Gngsk | http://home.comcast.net/~cathies/WoWScrnShot_071907_184449.jpg |
| 02:42.57 | poul|raider | so you saying that because you a rogue you dont need to have a overview in raids? |
| 02:42.59 | vyll | i think so |
| 02:43.14 | haste | http://bildr.no/view/87750 << alternative site |
| 02:43.23 | vyll | nah, its nice to have but i dont need it immediately available |
| 02:44.21 | Arrowmaster | Gngsk: is that a font that has the tilted characters or an animation? |
| 02:44.21 | poul|raider | clean ui are nice just for the fact that there arent much on em, but when it come to raiding, i cant raid if i just have a player and target frame |
| 02:45.09 | vyll | well, i dont heal, so i dont need to know where people are for the most part, just need to know my threat level compared to mt and where he is |
| 02:45.27 | Antiarc | My UI is a lot businer in raids :) |
| 02:45.32 | vyll | is it? |
| 02:45.35 | vyll | what do you monitor? |
| 02:45.38 | Hjalte | haste, what do you use to do your abilities? |
| 02:45.44 | Antiarc | yeah, grid, timers up all over the place, cooldown timers |
| 02:45.55 | haste | Hjalte: hotkeys |
| 02:46.07 | Chompers | http://img518.imageshack.us/my.php?image=quantabl6.jpg |
| 02:46.10 | Chompers | mine :D |
| 02:47.06 | Chompers | oh holy shit, i just saw the skill trainer at 60 |
| 02:47.14 | Chompers | its...pages long :x |
| 02:47.20 | Gngsk | Arrowmaster, combat text or ...? |
| 02:47.36 | Arrowmaster | yeah |
| 02:47.37 | vyll | haha |
| 02:47.41 | Gngsk | it's msbt |
| 02:47.49 | vyll | that happens |
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| 02:48.08 | Arrowmaster | yeah i figured that but is that an animation or a font? |
| 02:48.16 | Gngsk | font I think |
| 02:48.43 | Arrowmaster | i dont know why but i really dislike reading it |
| 02:48.48 | poul|raider | well if you only care for you self and your dmg you dont need anything els the target and player frame :P but well you might need to make a call based on the group, mana/hp ect people alive, who got a debuff all kind of information .) |
| 02:48.50 | Gngsk | seems to be the default faunt |
| 02:52.35 | Hjalte | damn, i would love to have a ui like hastes, but... it feels impossible >.< |
| 02:52.52 | haste | depends on your playing style |
| 02:53.06 | steino | i have a ui like haste |
| 02:53.08 | steino | ;OL |
| 02:53.12 | vyll | i think its clearfot |
| 02:53.22 | vyll | i have something similar with it |
| 02:53.27 | vyll | *clearfont |
| 02:56.56 | vyll | is there a command to register for the channel? |
| 02:57.43 | Kaydeethree | register with nickserv: /msg nickserv help register |
| 02:58.05 | vyll | ok, thanks |
| 02:58.34 | poul|raider | is it posible to petbar:Show() to see the position of it ? |
| 02:58.40 | poul|raider | blizzard standart ui |
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| 02:59.55 | Gngsk | poul|raider, I think it has to be loaded no? |
| 03:00.56 | Arrowmaster | pet bar is always loaded |
| 03:01.01 | Gngsk | k |
| 03:01.06 | kaiden | ckknight, getting Interface\AddOns\Parrot\Data\TriggerConditions.lua:380: attempt to index global 'SEAura' (a nil value) |
| 03:01.12 | Gngsk | then /run PetActionBarFrame:Show() |
| 03:02.08 | poul|raider | maybe, i was just wondering. was fighting teron gorefiend tonight and dint notice where my pet bar was, was just spaming my hotkeys |
| 03:02.20 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r44690 10Parrot/ (Code/TriggerConditions.lua Data/TriggerConditions.lua): Parrot_TriggerConditions - bugfix |
| 03:02.21 | Gngsk | yeah, it tends to not show up for that guy |
| 03:02.30 | poul|raider | well it did i belive |
| 03:02.36 | poul|raider | i just dint look after it |
| 03:02.38 | kaiden | ckknight, thanks :) |
| 03:02.42 | ckknight | :-) |
| 03:02.55 | poul|raider | spamed ctrl 3-5 and it did what i expected :p |
| 03:03.46 | poul|raider | naa cant get it showing without having a pet i think |
| 03:03.58 | Chompers | ckk: any luck on throttling outgoing damage below a certain threshhold? |
| 03:04.09 | ckknight | filtering? |
| 03:04.13 | Chompers | filtering even |
| 03:04.20 | ckknight | did I not add that? |
| 03:04.34 | ckknight | no, guess not |
| 03:04.41 | kaiden | ckknight, sorry for being the bearer of bad news :P TriggerConditions.lua:5: attempt to compare number with nil |
| 03:04.48 | ckknight | which folder? |
| 03:04.52 | kaiden | Code |
| 03:05.16 | ckknight | okay, you checked out wrong |
| 03:05.18 | ckknight | very wrong |
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| 03:06.12 | kaiden | ok, just ran to the site and grabbed it out of http://svn.wowace.com/wowace/trunk/Parrot/Code/ |
| 03:06.17 | kaiden | didn't have svn installed on that pc |
| 03:06.20 | kaiden | i'll install it and check out |
| 03:07.00 | ckknight | yea, you can't do that, keywords messes up |
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| 03:07.47 | Gizzmo__ | wow alot of people in here |
| 03:08.01 | Arrowmaster | ckk, maybe you should make those revision checks messed up keyword safe by adding or 0 |
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| 03:09.32 | Amadeo | Ok wait a minute |
| 03:09.33 | NightHawkTheSane | or people could just not directly save out of the repo like that |
| 03:09.39 | Amadeo | Did Blizzard change all the PvP trinkets while I wasn't looking? |
| 03:09.39 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r44691 10Parrot/Data/CombatEvents.lua: Parrot_Data/CombatEvents - add filters for incoming and outgoing damage. |
| 03:09.52 | ckknight | Arrowmaster: no, people shouldn't be doing that, it's their own fault |
| 03:09.53 | Amadeo | or is this site screwing with me? they're all the same now? |
| 03:09.53 | NightHawkTheSane | Amadeo: yes, like twice too |
| 03:09.58 | Amadeo | wow |
| 03:10.13 | Amadeo | so they're uber-trinkets now, for everyone |
| 03:12.48 | NightHawkTheSane | "Where's the fanfare?" "We did kind of save the planet." "...again. This should not get old, General." |
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| 03:20.16 | Amadeo | oh well, sleep now |
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| 03:27.09 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r44692 10Parrot/ (4 files in 2 dirs): Parrot - split the cooldown stuff from CombatEvents and TriggerConditions into its own file. |
| 03:27.39 | art3mis | did you make atoc for each file? |
| 03:27.55 | art3mis | cuz yer way below the number of listed addons for this one ;) |
| 03:29.51 | ulic | :) |
| 03:29.56 | ckknight | art3mis: ? |
| 03:30.10 | ckknight | art3mis: no, not yet |
| 03:31.32 | RogueShadow | ckknight: Thanks for fixin the scroll area'. screen clamp. thingy |
| 03:31.40 | ckknight | :-) |
| 03:32.25 | Chompers | thanks ckk |
| 03:33.23 | RogueShadow | Has anybody ever come back to their computer after being afk to find your not in your guild, but your tabard is the same, and the title of the guild window shows your rank and guild. But nothign else. |
| 03:34.24 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r44693 10Ace2/AceEvent-2.0/AceEvent-2.0.lua: .AceEvent-2.0 - set .currentEventUID for OnUpdate. |
| 03:34.59 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r44694 10Parrot/Data/Cooldowns.lua: Parrot_Cooldowns - add primary trigger condition: Spell ready. |
| 03:35.48 | Diao | RogueShadow you have to get gkicked |
| 03:35.50 | Diao | and reinvited |
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| 03:37.22 | Killmore | http://www.invictuswow.com/pics/kael96.jpg <3 Parrot |
| 03:40.19 | ckknight | Killmore: :-) |
| 03:40.21 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r44695 10Parrot/Data/ (CombatEvents.lua Loot.lua): Parrot - split Loot into its own file. |
| 03:41.01 | Killmore | 10 sec before I got pwnt by kael :( |
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| 03:51.26 | Gngsk | durcyn, ping |
| 03:54.43 | durcyn | Gngsk: hi! did i break banzai for you again? |
| 03:54.50 | Gngsk | indeed you did, schmuck |
| 03:54.53 | Gngsk | add soar to libs/ and toc |
| 03:54.56 | durcyn | nope |
| 03:55.02 | durcyn | it's optional like sml |
| 03:55.41 | Gngsk | well, I get an error about it not being able to find a library instance of soar |
| 03:55.58 | durcyn | shouldn't |
| 03:56.00 | durcyn | let me look |
| 03:56.24 | durcyn | line? |
| 03:56.28 | Gngsk | http://pastey.net/71231 |
| 03:56.31 | Funkeh` | wow |
| 03:56.35 | Funkeh` | terminator was awesome |
| 03:59.24 | ckknight | btw, I'm gonna add item buffs to SEAura |
| 04:00.34 | Gngsk | durcyn, the soar line didn't have the whole HasInstance() check like the sml line did |
| 04:01.52 | durcyn | meh, 's what i get for merging a branch that forced it in there |
| 04:02.11 | Gngsk | I edited it locally, so I'm content for the time being |
| 04:02.18 | Gngsk | that is, until you break it again and I update |
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| 04:03.09 | CIA-22 | 03durcyn * r44696 10BanzaiAlert/BanzaiAlert.lua: BanzaiAlert: Fix Soar invocation, thanks Gngsk. |
| 04:03.14 | Gngsk | w00t |
| 04:03.36 | fireglow | -.- |
| 04:06.08 | Funkeh` | later folks |
| 04:06.47 | durcyn | "break it again", he says. |
| 04:06.55 | durcyn | you should be glad i wrote this one in branches, sir! |
| 04:07.37 | Gngsk | I'm sure I am. |
| 04:07.53 | Diao | Cryect |
| 04:08.05 | Diao | did someone break /recount standby in the last couple updates |
| 04:08.13 | Diao | cause it was working fine yesterday and now it's not working again :( |
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| 04:14.26 | CIA-22 | 03next96 * r44697 10AuldLangSyne/Info/koKR.lua: |
| 04:14.26 | CIA-22 | AuldLangSyne: |
| 04:14.26 | CIA-22 | - Update locale koKR |
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| 04:31.05 | Antiarc | ckknight: Moving my party frames seems to revert all my portraits to full body mode |
| 04:31.22 | ckknight | hrm |
| 04:31.24 | ckknight | that's odd |
| 04:33.20 | NightHawkTheSane | I don't suppose there's something as well organized as the php manual for ruby, is there? |
| 04:34.02 | dylanm | NightHawkTheSane: The rdoc-generated stuff on the official site is pretty adequate. |
| 04:34.18 | dylanm | Do you want to know about the syntax or the library? |
| 04:35.13 | NightHawkTheSane | yes. |
| 04:35.14 | NightHawkTheSane | :) |
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| 04:39.31 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r44698 10SpecialEventsEmbed/SpecialEvents-Aura-2.0/SpecialEvents-Aura-2.0.lua: .SpecialEvents-Aura-2.0 - add events SpecialEvents_PlayerItemBuffLost and SpecialEvents_PlayerItemBuffGained. Sends the arguments 'name', rank, isMainHand. |
| 04:40.18 | ckknight | crap, I also added methods |
| 04:40.31 | ckknight | which I need to change now anyway |
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| 04:41.35 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r44699 10SpecialEventsEmbed/SpecialEvents-Aura-2.0/SpecialEvents-Aura-2.0.lua: .SpecialEvents-Aura-2.0 - add methods :GetPlayerMainHandItemBuff() and :GetPlayerOffHandItemBuff(), which return name, rank |
| 04:41.39 | ckknight | alright |
| 04:45.23 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r44700 10Parrot/Data/CombatEvents.lua: Parrot_CombatEvents - use the item buff events from SEAura instead of checking manually. |
| 04:48.35 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r44701 10Parrot/Data/CombatEvents.lua: Parrot_CombatEvents - for item buffs, use the icon of the weapon as the icon to show. |
| 04:48.51 | vyll | hey, back now :) |
| 04:49.21 | ckknight | ? |
| 04:49.26 | vyll | :D |
| 04:49.30 | Antiarc | Hey, what's that viewport mod? |
| 04:49.49 | Antiarc | ckknight: Is there a way to reliably anchor an eepanel to the party frame in pitbull? |
| 04:49.51 | ckknight | changes your worldframe size, my guess |
| 04:49.57 | Antiarc | As far as I can tell you just get a random cluser every time |
| 04:49.57 | ckknight | no idea |
| 04:50.04 | Antiarc | ckknight: No, I meant the name. :P |
| 04:50.12 | ckknight | that'll be random |
| 04:50.15 | Antiarc | Aperture |
| 04:50.19 | fireglow | Visor |
| 04:50.25 | Antiarc | Visor's more than I want |
| 04:50.43 | Antiarc | Hrm. I have an eepanel I only want to show when I'm in a party. |
| 04:51.18 | Antiarc | I guess I could write a little addon to handle it, but bleh. |
| 04:54.20 | durcyn | solution, never be in a party |
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| 05:02.49 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r44702 10Parrot/ (4 files in 2 dirs): Parrot - split aura data from other parts, add more trigger conditions. |
| 05:04.17 | fireglow | Antiarc: suggest it to the author :D |
| 05:07.09 | CIA-22 | 03next96 * r44703 10Skinner/Localisations.lua: |
| 05:07.09 | CIA-22 | Skinner: |
| 05:07.09 | CIA-22 | - Update locale koKR |
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| 05:10.32 | NimbleRabit | Xuerian: ping |
| 05:10.48 | Xuerian | NimbleRabit: Poing |
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| 05:12.41 | vyll | whats the addon that works the action keys |
| 05:12.45 | vyll | ? |
| 05:14.31 | vyll | not remaps them, but makes them movable |
| 05:16.42 | Antiarc | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:16.43 | Antiarc | The bar? |
| 05:16.45 | Antiarc | Bartender3 |
| 05:16.50 | vyll | yah, bar |
| 05:16.55 | vyll | i was just looking at bartender |
| 05:17.04 | vyll | so i guess i found it :) |
| 05:17.18 | Antiarc | http://img182.imageshack.us/img182/3280/rogueui2qu4.jpg |
| 05:17.23 | vyll | but thank you :) |
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| 05:17.47 | vyll | yah, thats the one |
| 05:18.04 | vyll | that one's yours, correct? |
| 05:18.06 | Knaledge | @Kemayo: would it be possible to get it so that note tooltips created through ALS could span vertically rather than horizontally? |
| 05:18.36 | Knaledge | I know that'd have to be a lot of text but I am using it in a rather unconventional way (noting items I want for myself in my own guild based note via ALS) |
| 05:19.04 | Knaledge | but others might actually have multiple things to say about someone and perhaps vertical spanning might help as opposed to horizontal as is now |
| 05:19.07 | Antiarc | Yeah |
| 05:19.12 | Antiarc | I kinda got the bug to tweak it up |
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| 05:23.08 | Diao | how do you color your chat windows |
| 05:24.04 | Antiarc | eepanels |
| 05:24.56 | Diao | oh |
| 05:25.26 | Knaledge | Is creating a rollout panel hard to create? |
| 05:25.39 | Knaledge | Similar to that used in Enchantrix |
| 05:26.09 | Knaledge | would be awesome to get that kind of functionality for the chat frame and QuestFu's tracker |
| 05:29.13 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r44704 10Parser-3.0/Parser-3.0/Parser-3.0.lua: Parser-3.0 - allow functions to be in filters, e.g. { recipientName = function() return UnitName("target") end } |
| 05:30.20 | RogueShadow | Antiarc You ever have problems with paging? for stealth |
| 05:30.24 | Antiarc | Nope |
| 05:30.29 | Antiarc | BT3 hasn't ever given me problems |
| 05:30.37 | RogueShadow | I just started using it yesterday. |
| 05:30.46 | RogueShadow | I somehow accidentally messed it up |
| 05:30.47 | RogueShadow | ... |
| 05:30.52 | RogueShadow | not sure how yet. |
| 05:31.08 | RogueShadow | Do you hotkey a lot, shifts. alts. cntrl's etc.. |
| 05:31.38 | RogueShadow | I figure maybe I pressed something just right.... to screw things up... |
| 05:31.44 | Antiarc | Yeah, I hotkey a ton |
| 05:31.51 | Antiarc | But I also have the normal paging binding unbound |
| 05:31.53 | Antiarc | Since I never use them |
| 05:32.01 | RogueShadow | ah. |
| 05:32.03 | Antiarc | http://img529.imageshack.us/img529/3215/rogueui5qi0.jpg <-- group setup |
| 05:32.27 | sylvanaar | no wonder it take blizzard forever to write stuff |
| 05:32.49 | Chaoslux | What do you mean sylvanaar? |
| 05:32.52 | sylvanaar | all night trying to make my stupid faux scroll frame look right |
| 05:33.34 | RogueShadow | Perhaps I just need to do that... yeah. I bet... thanks... |
| 05:34.12 | CIA-22 | 03sylvanaar * r44705 10Debug-1.0/DebugUI-1.0/LogConsole-1.0.lua: Debug-1.0: This took way way too long to make even these basic changes |
| 05:34.59 | Chaoslux | Anyone knows where i could find a an Item Database w/ IDs for Offline checking items? (sorry if this isnt ace-related =[ ) |
| 05:36.56 | sylvanaar | This has to be one of the worst graphic layout systems i have ever seen - its right up there with the one I wrote to drive a mobile POS |
| 05:37.40 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r44706 10Parrot/Data/Auras.lua: Parrot_Auras - use recipientName = function() return UnitName("target") end for target buff/debuff gain. |
| 05:37.44 | CIA-22 | 03sylvanaar * r44707 10Debug-1.0/DebugUI-1.0/LogConsole-1.0.lua: Debug-1.0: and it had a bug.... |
| 05:38.36 | sylvanaar | ok my tantrum is finished |
| 05:38.49 | Chaoslux | lol sounds funny |
| 05:38.53 | Chaoslux | "Debug had a bug" |
| 05:39.39 | sylvanaar | and least i could use it to debug itself |
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| 06:00.01 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r44708 10Parrot/Code/CombatEvents.lua: Parrot_CombatEvents - add a subCategory system, for better organization (note: not in the data yet) |
| 06:14.13 | CIA-22 | 03sylvanaar * r44709 10Prat/Prat_Modules/modules/ (PopupMessage.lua ServerNames.lua Sounds.lua): Prat: Removed Prat's event uid implementation in favor of the new AceEvent version. Removed a super retarded debug print in servernames. |
| 06:15.03 | CIA-22 | 03sylvanaar * r44710 10Prat/Prat.lua: Prat: did my commit from the wrong dir |
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| 06:26.18 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r44711 10Parrot/ (5 files in 2 dirs): |
| 06:26.18 | CIA-22 | Parrot_CombatEvents - add subCategories to most of the events. |
| 06:26.18 | CIA-22 | - some bugfixes. |
| 06:28.16 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r44712 10Parrot/Code/CombatEvents.lua: Parrot_CombatEvents - fix some orderings of custom categories. |
| 06:30.19 | Wobin_ | Antiarc: Grid? On a rogue? =) |
| 06:30.28 | Antiarc | I like to keep track of my raid's status |
| 06:30.46 | Antiarc | I also use XRS, but Grid takes very little of my 1920x1200 screen real estate |
| 06:30.49 | Antiarc | So I use it too |
| 06:34.02 | ggilbert | Antiarc needs to make sure all the rogues buff their groups. |
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| 06:46.07 | Gngsk | rogues have no need for grid, unless they're leading the raid |
| 06:49.23 | Antiarc | I'm an officer and tend to like to keep tabs on the whole raid. |
| 06:49.27 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r44713 10Parrot/Code/Triggers.lua: Parrot_Triggers - now you can set the icon for Triggers, defaults updated, but you'll need to wipe that part of your SV to have it show up properly. |
| 06:49.28 | MoonWolf | i like to know how the raid is doing without having a huge block of unitframes blocking my screen |
| 06:49.45 | Antiarc | Grid is very tiny. |
| 06:49.48 | MoonWolf | and i'm a rogue not a raid leader nor in a high up position in a raid. |
| 06:49.56 | Antiarc | Precisely. |
| 06:50.07 | MoonWolf | so I do think Gngsk is being a bit to general with that. |
| 06:51.21 | Gngsk | detached XRS raid health tip is plenty good |
| 06:51.57 | NimbleRabit | omg big black box just covered like 3/4th of my screen |
| 06:52.11 | RogueShadow | seems to happen |
| 06:52.13 | Arrowmaster | my friend uses grid on his rogue, yet i dont use any raidframes on my warlock and end up doing /target to summon people |
| 06:53.26 | Wobin_ | for any of my character that use grid, I already have clickcasting setup, so I have to use /target to select them too =P |
| 06:54.07 | Arrowmaster | i need to build a new computer so i redo my interface and get more than 10fps raid combat |
| 06:54.42 | RogueShadow | <3 building new computer |
| 06:54.47 | Wobin | <3 new computer |
| 06:54.47 | mitch0 | morgen |
| 06:54.52 | MoonWolf | yo |
| 06:55.02 | MoonWolf | Wobin, i agree with that sentiment. |
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| 06:56.06 | Arrowmaster | althon xp 3000+ (2.1ghz), 1gb ddr400 (2x512), x800xtpe |
| 06:56.32 | Arrowmaster | really need a new one |
| 06:56.50 | Diao | [2007/07/23 23:56:43-1196-x1]: Cartographer_InstanceMaps-2.0\InstanceMaps.lua:331: attempt to index local 'tex' (a nil value) |
| 06:56.50 | Diao | --- |
| 06:56.51 | ckknight | guten morgen, mitch0 |
| 06:56.55 | Diao | do i need to update |
| 06:57.00 | ckknight | Diao: probably |
| 06:57.04 | Diao | hm |
| 06:57.07 | Antiarc | Updated more than 3 minutes ago ? yes : no |
| 06:57.08 | Diao | i'll try updating again |
| 06:57.10 | Diao | yes |
| 06:57.25 | Diao | like 2 hours ago |
| 06:57.28 | MoonWolf | Intel duo Duel core 2.13 ghz, 2g Gigs of ram, nvidia 8800gt 320mb. |
| 06:58.01 | MoonWolf | I loves it. |
| 06:58.03 | MoonWolf | very much |
| 06:58.21 | MoonWolf | and yet when I go into shattrath I still drop to 50 fps |
| 06:58.42 | Arrowmaster | i get 10fps raid combat yet ill break 100fps while flying around solo |
| 06:58.46 | CIA-22 | 03roartindon * r44714 10Aloft/CoreModules/ClassData.lua: |
| 06:58.46 | CIA-22 | Aloft |
| 06:58.46 | CIA-22 | - [Class] tag now returns local classes |
| 06:59.02 | Antiarc | Probably your fill rate, Arrowmaster |
| 06:59.56 | Arrowmaster | yeah i doubt my x800xtpe is having issues rendering wow, its probably my cpu and ram |
| 07:00.32 | Arrowmaster | although i do run at 1600x1200 |
| 07:00.56 | Diao | ok |
| 07:01.01 | Diao | i just updated and now prat tosses me an error :( |
| 07:01.21 | Diao | http://ace.pastey.net/71233 |
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| 07:07.49 | ckknight | omfg, Shuttleworth cut his hair |
| 07:08.10 | Mellow_ | is the bulkmail2inbox developer around? |
| 07:08.37 | Azurewrath | gaaaaahhh... one of our Mages just left the Guild.. about 2 Days after i rejected three Mage applications... i hate it.. |
| 07:08.51 | Gngsk | Mellow_, nope |
| 07:10.19 | Mellow_ | hm, anybody experienced very low fps while you get money from ah, more than 10 mail? my wow almost frozen |
| 07:10.47 | Gngsk | I stopped using that button, cuz it'd freeze wow |
| 07:11.23 | Mellow_ | i had to disable the addon, but take all was a very good feature, i really miss i |
| 07:11.23 | Mellow_ | t |
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| 07:16.31 | Speeddymon | I'm getting an error from AceLocale since about 9pm tonight.. |
| 07:16.51 | Speeddymon | rather |
| 07:16.51 | Speeddymon | from SmartQueue |
| 07:16.58 | Speeddymon | <PROTECTED> |
| 07:17.25 | Speeddymon | Im using an enUS client.. |
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| 07:19.32 | Speeddymon | Hopefully someone can get that translation working tonight, it comes up on every /rl and every time I login. Oh and the dang realm maintenance is tonight too! Great! |
| 07:19.38 | Speeddymon | oh well, g'night |
| 07:20.00 | [Ammo] | Cryect: I think what's going haywire in your sync solution is latency. PersonA receives event1 and event2 and sends those out with the id's then personB receives other event1 and 2 and sends those before he receives the events from personA, at least that's what I think from a quick look at your code |
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| 07:23.13 | CIA-22 | 03jerry * r44715 10Talented_Data/ (3 files in 2 dirs): Talented_Data: Allow outdated data to be loaded. |
| 07:24.43 | CIA-22 | 03jerry * r44716 10Talented/ (core.lua locale-enUS.lua locale-frFR.lua talents.lua): Talented: Add an option to force loading of outdated data. |
| 07:25.01 | Diao | what happened to aceoo :( |
| 07:25.41 | Diao | oh |
| 07:25.43 | Diao | i need to get that lib |
| 07:28.11 | Gngsk | durcyn, ping! |
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| 07:34.55 | Diao | http://ace.pastey.net/71237 |
| 07:34.59 | Diao | for parrot |
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| 07:41.11 | NimbleRabit | sylvanaar: is there a way to do multiline alias's with alias |
| 07:41.56 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r44717 10Parrot/Data/Auras.lua: Parrot_Auras - fix SEAura reference. |
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| 07:42.59 | sylvanaar | i dont know |
| 07:43.15 | sylvanaar | it may be |
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| 07:47.11 | [Ammo] | http://poopforbrains.com/2007/7/21/jail-must-be-really-boring |
| 07:47.14 | mitch0 | !api UnitIsUnit |
| 07:47.15 | ThraeBot | mitch0: isSame = UnitIsUnit(unit1, unit2); -- http://www.wowwiki.com/API_UnitIsUnit |
| 07:48.50 | NimbleRabit | sylvanaar: did you not make that plugin or something? lol |
| 07:49.13 | krka | haha [Ammo] |
| 07:49.29 | [Ammo] | wonder how many machineguns it takes to make them perform |
| 07:49.56 | Cheads | could bad lag mess up omen/threat badly? |
| 07:50.37 | Silviu- | http://www.curse.com/videos/details/229/ |
| 07:50.46 | [Ammo] | http://poopforbrains.com/2007/7/21/jail-must-be-really-boring |
| 07:50.49 | [Ammo] | woops |
| 07:50.52 | [Ammo] | wrong mousebutton |
| 07:53.44 | mitch0 | that jail thing is cool ;) |
| 07:54.32 | sylvanaar | fin did |
| 07:55.59 | Diao | http://www.youtube.com/byronfgarcia |
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| 07:56.01 | Diao | more videos of the jail thing |
| 07:56.02 | Diao | lol |
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| 08:03.01 | CIA-22 | 03mitchell 07AceAddon * r44718 10RangeDisplay/ (8 files): |
| 08:03.01 | CIA-22 | RangeDisplay: |
| 08:03.01 | CIA-22 | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:03.01 | CIA-22 | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:03.01 | CIA-22 | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:03.16 | *** join/#wowace ckknight (n=ckknight@rrcs-74-62-251-185.west.biz.rr.com) |
| 08:03.16 | *** mode/#wowace [+o ckknight] by ChanServ |
| 08:03.27 | NimbleRabit | I'm surprised |
| 08:03.32 | NimbleRabit | they let the inmates do that |
| 08:03.41 | WALoeIII | Is there a way to check out libraries for addons more effectively so I am not nuking the SVN server when I want to update my addons? |
| 08:04.03 | WALoeIII | I'm on OS X so I can't use the program. |
| 08:04.27 | evl | Anyone know where I can get a hold of Omnious? |
| 08:06.40 | Diao | algorith march one |
| 08:06.42 | Diao | is amazing |
| 08:07.15 | krka | what's that? |
| 08:07.27 | ilifin | algorithm kousen! |
| 08:07.30 | krka | an algorithm named by a date? |
| 08:07.34 | Silviu- | ckknight http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=1801.600 ;) |
| 08:07.36 | ckknight | Ominous |
| 08:08.24 | mitch0 | btw, whatever happened to abug's protected call thing? |
| 08:08.30 | mitch0 | was that reported? hotfixed? |
| 08:10.53 | krka | Diao: this? http://www.funmansion.com/html/Algorithm-March.html |
| 08:10.55 | [Ammo] | mitch0: it was |
| 08:11.03 | Kalman| | WALoeIII: MacAceUpdater? |
| 08:11.07 | Diao | yeah |
| 08:11.08 | Diao | but |
| 08:11.11 | Diao | the prisoners doing it |
| 08:11.12 | Diao | is amazing |
| 08:11.12 | Diao | lol |
| 08:11.15 | Fisker- | yarr [Ammo] |
| 08:11.16 | WALoeIII | Kalman|: never heard of it |
| 08:11.35 | Kalman| | ~macaceupdater |
| 08:11.52 | Kalman| | purl doesn't love me. :( |
| 08:11.53 | Kalman| | http://code.google.com/p/macaceupdater/ |
| 08:12.04 | Fisker- | ~macaceupdater |
| 08:12.12 | Fisker- | purl, you suck |
| 08:12.12 | purl | and very well I might add |
| 08:12.31 | evl | ckknight: what about him, I've got a patch to one of his addons but I cant' find the chap |
| 08:12.50 | Kalman| | purl, macaceupdater is an OS X implementation of an Ace mod manager, similar to WowAceUpdater. It can be found at http://code.google.com/p/macaceupdater/ |
| 08:12.50 | purl | okay, Kalman| |
| 08:12.57 | Kalman| | ~macaceupdater |
| 08:12.58 | purl | hmm... macaceupdater is an OS X implementation of an Ace mod manager, similar to WowAceUpdater. It can be found at http://code.google.com/p/macaceupdater/ |
| 08:13.38 | ckknight | ~seen Ominous |
| 08:13.41 | purl | ominous <n=Ominous@LSt-Amand-152-31-38-185.w82-127.abo.wanadoo.fr> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 2d 20h 34m 50s ago, saying: 'Radon: mod:RegisterEvent("event") function mod:event(a1, a2, a3, ...)'. |
| 08:13.57 | evl | clearly he's dead |
| 08:14.10 | ckknight | only 3 days |
| 08:14.12 | Diao | Phrase Completion. I thought this would be a game just for associating words, but it looks like there is some phrase completion happening too. Some are funny. Some are heartbreaking: |
| 08:14.12 | Diao | * I have |
| 08:14.12 | Diao | o no idea (3 people) |
| 08:14.12 | Diao | o a penis (2 people) |
| 08:14.12 | Diao | o crabs (1 person) |
| 08:14.14 | Diao | o failed (1 person) |
| 08:14.16 | Diao | whoops |
| 08:14.18 | Diao | http://2dboy.com/ |
| 08:16.21 | pb_ee1 | Cryect: I love Recount. Thanks. Two comments though. |
| 08:16.55 | pb_ee1 | Icons on the title bar should be movable or outside the frame, because when you have a small frame it becomes unreadable |
| 08:17.08 | Fisker- | Recount isn't ace2 omg!1 |
| 08:17.25 | pb_ee1 | A tooltip could be shown when hovering the title bar though, it would fix the problem ;) |
| 08:17.40 | pb_ee1 | http://images.lords-zodiac.com/559/q9mplsjqsi.jpg |
| 08:18.29 | pb_ee1 | Another thing, we never know what is displayed in the window: overall, last fight or current fight? No "tick" is shown near the correct option when selecting it |
| 08:18.57 | pb_ee1 | Last comment: you should detail more what "save timed data" is, I didn't manage to find what it was |
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| 08:19.21 | pb_ee1 | Note: you can also say "go to hell" and do nothing of this :p |
| 08:19.44 | theoddone33 | finally 70 |
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| 08:22.38 | CIA-22 | 03roartindon * r44719 10Assessment/Modules/BarInterface.lua: |
| 08:22.38 | CIA-22 | Assessment |
| 08:22.38 | CIA-22 | - reportLimit is now saved across sessions |
| 08:23.37 | pb_ee1 | theoddone33: grats |
| 08:23.56 | theoddone33 | thanks |
| 08:24.00 | theoddone33 | time for entirely new grinds! |
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| 08:30.29 | pb_ee1 | Cryect: ho, and when you'll come back, could you please tell me how does the "threat" part work? i'm wondering how does Recount choose which mob is displayed in the window |
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| 08:32.47 | mitch0 | can anyone link to the info about the "spell queue" thing in 2.3? |
| 08:35.18 | Punkie` | pb_ee1: I think Threat-1.0 handles all that? |
| 08:35.39 | pb_ee1 | Punkie`: you mean which target is displayed in recount window? |
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| 08:36.04 | pb_ee1 | suppose we're on gruul and that i want to see the aggro only on gruul. how do i configure recount to do so? |
| 08:36.35 | Punkie` | click gruul |
| 08:36.51 | pb_ee1 | humm |
| 08:36.53 | Punkie` | the threat shown is the threat on your target |
| 08:37.19 | pb_ee1 | well we had a problem yesterday, the aggro shown was always the target of one of our main tank |
| 08:37.38 | pb_ee1 | BUT we had only two people in the raid using Recount, and they were playing healers |
| 08:37.44 | pb_ee1 | so no direct targeting on mobs |
| 08:37.56 | CIA-22 | 03adelea * r44720 10GridManaBars/GridManaBars.lua: GridManaBars - bug fix for the roster_update event - should no longer reset the mana bar to the unit top. |
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| 08:39.05 | Punkie` | I dunno about recount, I just assume it works the same as it's Threat-1.0 based |
| 08:39.23 | Punkie` | I use Omen for the threat display, the pullout bars are really something :P |
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| 08:42.50 | F0x0r | ckknight, ping |
| 08:42.57 | ckknight | pong |
| 08:43.05 | F0x0r | http://ace.pastey.net/71239 |
| 08:43.10 | F0x0r | error in parrot |
| 08:43.20 | F0x0r | what i did |
| 08:43.48 | F0x0r | Configuration mode, parrot->scroll ares -> outgoing -> Normal |
| 08:43.54 | F0x0r | changed around a bit |
| 08:44.05 | F0x0r | and always when i change from 'Straight' to 'Parabola' |
| 08:45.41 | ckknight | hrm... |
| 08:46.29 | Megalon | it look likes it's always |
| 08:46.36 | Megalon | when you change away from 'straight' |
| 08:46.41 | Megalon | animation style |
| 08:46.48 | Megalon | that is, sorry forgot that |
| 08:47.46 | Megalon | oh, from straight to static didn't error :O |
| 08:47.53 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r44721 10Parrot/Data/AnimationStyles.lua: Parrot_AnimationStyles - double-check if points are valid. |
| 08:47.58 | ckknight | fixed |
| 08:48.05 | Megalon | k thx :D |
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| 08:54.55 | CIA-22 | 03ammo * r44722 10WitchHunt/ (WitchHunt.lua locales/enUS.lua): WitchHunt: Tweaks to options and db handling |
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| 08:57.07 | kebinusan | http://www.youtube.com/jp.swf?video_id=K2cYWfq--Nw |
| 08:58.47 | mitch0 | jeebus, take a look at this addon for teh horrorz :) http://www.curse.com/downloads/details/8596/ |
| 08:59.06 | mitch0 | the uber stuff is at the bottom of the .lua |
| 08:59.37 | kebinusan | err http://youtube.com/watch?v=K2cYWfq--Nw actually |
| 09:01.43 | Fisker- | what about it mitch0? |
| 09:02.15 | mitch0 | take a look at the implementation, right at the bootton of the lua file... |
| 09:03.59 | krka | what about it? |
| 09:04.00 | mitch0 | here's the thing: while waittill / 1000 > GetTime() do end |
| 09:04.04 | Megalon | oh |
| 09:04.06 | Megalon | my |
| 09:04.09 | Megalon | god |
| 09:04.09 | krka | how would you else do a sleep? |
| 09:04.17 | mitch0 | you DON'T |
| 09:04.32 | mitch0 | as it freezes your UI |
| 09:04.35 | krka | isn't that the point of the addon though? |
| 09:04.45 | krka | how would you else queue up a cast+ |
| 09:05.10 | kebinusan | do -- nothing *shrug*end |
| 09:05.15 | kebinusan | heh |
| 09:05.39 | Megalon | nice 'queue' by freezing the game until you can cast the 'queued' spell |
| 09:05.40 | Megalon | :O |
| 09:05.43 | mitch0 | krka: you can't with the current version (hopefully they'll add this functionality in 2.3) |
| 09:06.01 | krka | i dont see the problem with the code relaly |
| 09:06.09 | nevcairiel | it will freeze your game |
| 09:06.14 | nevcairiel | completly |
| 09:06.15 | krka | it's a busy wait, yes, but that's because that's the only way to do it. |
| 09:06.15 | nevcairiel | thats just bad |
| 09:06.21 | mitch0 | this way of course "works" in a way, but really, freezing the the game is not a good option |
| 09:06.32 | kebinusan | heh, its funny |
| 09:06.41 | kebinusan | I guess its a /stopcasting solution for button mashers |
| 09:06.47 | cryogen | what if you decide you want to abort casting in the mean time, or want to iceblock or something |
| 09:06.52 | cryogen | you cant do that if your game is frozen :D |
| 09:06.55 | Fisker- | 2.4 > 2.3 |
| 09:07.05 | krka | i'm guessing the plan is to hit the next cast right before the previous |
| 09:07.27 | mitch0 | oh well, I give up krka :) |
| 09:07.33 | krka | sure, you can of course think that the addon _idea_ is bad, but the code looks fairly good to me |
| 09:07.54 | krka | short, easy to read, well commented, no global namespace pollution |
| 09:08.04 | mitch0 | the idea is horrible, not the actual coding |
| 09:08.11 | mitch0 | I haven't really looked at that |
| 09:08.31 | krka | that's not what you said |
| 09:08.33 | krka | <mitch0> the uber stuff is at the bottom of the .lua |
| 09:08.39 | mitch0 | exactly |
| 09:08.47 | mitch0 | that's where the busy wait is, which is horrible |
| 09:08.51 | nevcairiel | he just said that its at the bottom of the .lua, not that its bad code in general |
| 09:08.52 | Saladin | The top of the .lua is always envious |
| 09:09.01 | Saladin | he wants cool stuff too :( |
| 09:09.05 | krka | actually, it even says tis: |
| 09:09.08 | krka | <mitch0> the uber stuff is at the bottom of the .lua |
| 09:09.10 | krka | oops |
| 09:09.12 | krka | -- dont freeze the game! dont wait if we have to wait > 4s, eg. summoning, pyroblasting |
| 09:09.24 | mitch0 | 4 SEC |
| 09:09.27 | mitch0 | think about it! |
| 09:09.35 | mitch0 | it'd gladly busy wait for 3.9 secs though |
| 09:09.36 | krka | so the author apparently already knew about the problems |
| 09:09.58 | nevcairiel | its not that hard to figure out that it freezes |
| 09:10.00 | krka | so change the constant or request the author to change it or make it an option |
| 09:10.31 | krka | nah, but it looks like something i could have done |
| 09:10.41 | mitch0 | krka: no way, I just won't use it and wait for a proper solution from blizz |
| 09:10.43 | nevcairiel | i suppose you get near-disconnect if you freeze more then 4s |
| 09:10.44 | nevcairiel | ;) |
| 09:10.45 | krka | with a few slight optimizations |
| 09:11.08 | krka | i'd return directly in HasBuff |
| 09:11.20 | krka | and only call UnitCastingInfo once |
| 09:11.36 | Bruners | is the latest prat broken ? |
| 09:11.48 | mitch0 | but you'd still keep the locking... way to optimize at the wrong spots :) |
| 09:12.17 | krka | yes, since the locking is the core mechanism of the addon, that can't be removed |
| 09:12.37 | mitch0 | for the last time: Locking the UI is Bad (tm) |
| 09:12.41 | mitch0 | EOD |
| 09:13.01 | krka | i could probably live with 0.5 second ui freeze once every combat spell attack if it would increase my dps :) |
| 09:13.05 | Fisker- | harder |
| 09:13.12 | nevcairiel | plus i guess it goes somewhat against the rules |
| 09:13.26 | krka | not really. all addons are fine |
| 09:13.35 | krka | except communication x-faction |
| 09:13.54 | nevcairiel | they never said that "any possible addon is fine", did they? |
| 09:14.21 | nevcairiel | using a hard-lock of the game to queue a spell .. thats just not intended imho :) |
| 09:14.34 | mitch0 | darn, some blue said the solution would not ba a 1-deep spell queue :( too bad |
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| 09:15.08 | Fisker- | btw lol |
| 09:15.12 | krka | spell queue would be nice for wanding |
| 09:15.19 | Saladin | lol idd |
| 09:15.22 | krka | i hate that wanding affects the spell cooldown |
| 09:15.30 | nevcairiel | mitch0: where did you read that actually? |
| 09:15.42 | krka | would be nice with a spell queue, just for wanding |
| 09:16.01 | Fisker- | damn |
| 09:16.10 | Fisker- | the premade paladins almost use the same skin as i :( |
| 09:16.23 | nevcairiel | buuh |
| 09:16.31 | nevcairiel | zul'aman not coming in 2.2, now official |
| 09:16.54 | Fisker- | always official never 2.2 |
| 09:16.56 | Fisker- | old etc, |
| 09:16.59 | mitch0 | nevcairiel: post 10 in this thread: http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=388011140&sid=1&pageNo=2 |
| 09:17.52 | nevcairiel | oh that thread |
| 09:18.06 | nevcairiel | i thought it was directly refering to the waitcast thing somehow |
| 09:19.09 | mitch0 | I forgot about that waitcast thing already :) |
| 09:19.40 | nevcairiel | will be redundant anyway once slouken fixes the need for /stopcasting in 2.3 |
| 09:20.18 | Fisker- | when Zul'Aman is released |
| 09:20.26 | mitch0 | yeah, but how will they fix it? |
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| 09:20.42 | mitch0 | if not with a single-slot queue? I'm rather curious |
| 09:20.47 | Fisker- | h4x |
| 09:20.51 | nevcairiel | prolly with compensation for lag |
| 09:21.07 | CIA-22 | 03jerry * r44723 10Talented/locale-zhCN.lua: Talented: updates to zhCN locale. Thanks biggates. |
| 09:21.11 | mitch0 | but lag is random |
| 09:21.17 | nevcairiel | but can be measured |
| 09:21.24 | mitch0 | oh well, hope it'll be better then the current situation |
| 09:21.25 | nevcairiel | like quartz or other lag meters do it |
| 09:21.43 | krka | it's hard to measure lag from A->B actually |
| 09:21.51 | krka | you usually measure A->B->A |
| 09:21.55 | nevcairiel | true |
| 09:22.03 | mitch0 | well, they could make a "protected" version of the old fastcast addon, that would be almost ok |
| 09:22.10 | nevcairiel | you need some kind of response, or very accurate timestamps |
| 09:22.26 | mitch0 | still need for button smashing, but better than nothing |
| 09:22.40 | krka | if both parties have synced clocks, it's doable |
| 09:22.47 | krka | even trivial |
| 09:22.48 | mitch0 | best would be the queue thing, but it seems they don't like that idea |
| 09:23.05 | nevcairiel | slouken is resourceful, he will figure something out |
| 09:24.40 | krka | imo, it could be solved with a softer cooldown |
| 09:25.12 | nevcairiel | yeah just some grace period at the end of the cooldown |
| 09:25.14 | krka | instead of just setting the cooldown after a cast, add to the cooldown |
| 09:25.27 | krka | or something |
| 09:28.39 | break19 | I kinda like how DAoC handled it.. |
| 09:29.18 | break19 | if you hit a spell, then a second one, after the first is finished, you'd immediately start casting the second... at which point point you could queue up another spell |
| 09:29.19 | mitch0 | daoc had a queue, right? |
| 09:29.22 | break19 | ya |
| 09:29.34 | mitch0 | yeah, that would be the "sane" solution |
| 09:29.38 | Fisker- | well ptr's gone to shit again |
| 09:29.47 | Fisker- | nothing but faggots raiding each others cities now |
| 09:29.51 | break19 | mitch0: except for the problem of full resists |
| 09:29.52 | krka | i'm guessing adding a queue would consume more bandwidth |
| 09:30.01 | mitch0 | but it's probably more work than some lag-o-matic |
| 09:30.08 | krka | so they probably want a solution that doesnt add any protocol overhead |
| 09:30.28 | break19 | krka: no. the queue could be client-side |
| 09:30.33 | mitch0 | bkreak19: what's the problem with full resists? |
| 09:30.42 | break19 | just not in the sandbox for addons to mess with. |
| 09:31.01 | krka | break19: i thought the problem was that you lose time between end of one cast and start of next cast? |
| 09:31.10 | mitch0 | bkreak19: actually, the queue should be server side |
| 09:31.11 | nevcairiel | the client doesnt actually know the server lag, thats why you need todo /stopcasting to make the client think you actually finished |
| 09:31.12 | break19 | mitch0: well.. if my spell is resisted, I'd want to cast it again, except I've alrdy got a spell queued. :p |
| 09:31.30 | krka | queue should only work of completed spells |
| 09:31.46 | mitch0 | break: /stopcasting; recast |
| 09:32.15 | mitch0 | won't be much different from the current way of doinig it (you already button smashed your next cast by the time you see the resist) |
| 09:32.43 | Bruners | is there any news on fixing orc shoulders or not ? |
| 09:32.53 | cryogen | i say break them more |
| 09:32.56 | cryogen | it's hillarious |
| 09:32.57 | break19 | that'd work, I guess.. I actually wait til the cast is complete.. but then my avg ping is 40ms... so lag is rarely an issue for me |
| 09:34.03 | break19 | i keep 1 finger over the spell I just cast, with another one over the one Id want next (when I play one of my caster alts.. I'm usually just spamming mutilate on my main heh) |
| 09:34.20 | Fisker- | i just can't see they would make some ui of /stopcasting |
| 09:34.30 | Fisker- | doesn't seem like Blizzard to me |
| 09:34.44 | mitch0 | break: you loose 1.6% dps with a 2.5sec cast then :) |
| 09:34.48 | break19 | I just "wiggle" to stop. :p |
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| 09:35.22 | break19 | mitch0: i dont play for "zomg! Im top dps!" I play to "I killed the bastid" :p |
| 09:35.45 | mitch0 | every little bit counts! stop slacking! :) |
| 09:35.50 | break19 | heh |
| 09:36.10 | break19 | plus.. my caster alt is a 27 holy priest :p |
| 09:36.32 | break19 | I throw a sw:pain on every target, then just sit back and heal |
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| 09:37.02 | break19 | when pain runs out (like a boss or somethin) I re-apply it and go back to healin |
| 09:37.52 | Sole | supsup |
| 09:38.02 | Sole | how is everyone tonight? |
| 09:38.30 | break19 | .. morning... |
| 09:38.32 | break19 | ~ugt |
| 09:38.33 | purl | hmm... ugt is Universal Greeting Time. Created in #mipslinux, it is a rule that states that whenever somebody enters an IRC channel it is always morning, and it is always late when the person leaves. The local time of any other people in the channel, including the greeter, is irrelevant. http://www.total-knowledge.com/~ilya/mips/ugt.html |
| 09:38.37 | Sole | haha |
| 09:39.06 | CIA-22 | 03pettigrow * r44724 10BigWigs/ (11 files in 2 dirs): |
| 09:39.06 | CIA-22 | BigWigs: |
| 09:39.06 | CIA-22 | - BlackTemple: frFR Update (incomplete - need yell triggers) |
| 09:39.06 | CIA-22 | - Plugins: frFR Update |
| 09:40.16 | CIA-22 | 03sylvanaar * r44725 10Prat/Prat.lua: Prat: Revert part of an earlier change, the new debug code wasnt meant to be included yet |
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| 09:49.18 | Lywellyn | Um...anyone here involved in the development of Cartographer:QuestObjectives? |
| 09:49.52 | cryogen | ah, a splendid addon |
| 09:49.56 | cryogen | but one that is very buggy in stv. :) |
| 09:50.01 | Lywellyn | usually, yeah. :( |
| 09:50.08 | Lywellyn | wait, come again? |
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| 09:50.23 | cryogen | i usually get spammed with lua errors while running around in stv |
| 09:50.37 | cryogen | dont know why there and not other zones |
| 09:50.44 | Lywellyn | no, I've not gotten any errors with anything remotely to do with Cartographer, until today. |
| 09:50.56 | Lywellyn | my entire SavedVariables file just got nuked for that addon ;_; |
| 09:51.01 | cryogen | oops |
| 09:52.09 | Lywellyn | WTF\Account\***\SavedVariables\Cartographer_QuestObjectives.lua:13600: ']' expected near '<eof>': |
| 09:52.40 | Lywellyn | when I opened it, it looked like the file hadn't been completed...so I closed the file, logged out and logged back in....and my quest objectives were gone. The entire file. |
| 09:52.52 | break19 | c|_| - coffee needed.. |
| 09:53.16 | cryogen | i could see how that could suck |
| 09:53.24 | cryogen | isn't that wow's fault though and not the addon? |
| 09:53.48 | Lywellyn | Possibly. It just makes me sad. :( |
| 09:53.59 | cryogen | is probably the addon's fault for writing crap |
| 09:54.05 | cryogen | but seems odd to nuke the whole file because of it |
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| 09:54.43 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r44726 10SpecialEventsEmbed/SpecialEvents-Aura-2.0/SpecialEvents-Aura-2.0.lua: .SpecialEvents-Aura-2.0 - possible bugfix |
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| 09:55.08 | mitch0 | ckk: I got lost in pitbull's source :) where is the enable/disable raid frames happening? |
| 09:55.23 | ckknight | mitch0: RAID_ROSTER_UPDATE |
| 09:55.40 | mitch0 | I mean, when you toggle it from the config menu |
| 09:55.51 | mitch0 | there was a ToggleSomething method that I can't find now |
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| 09:57.08 | ckknight | I don't know what you're referring to... |
| 09:57.23 | mitch0 | erm, like fubar menu -> Raid -> Disable |
| 09:57.23 | sb | morning |
| 09:57.48 | mitch0 | or fubar menu -> Extra units -> Raid |
| 09:58.08 | mitch0 | then it called a ToggleSomething('raid', true') |
| 09:58.26 | mitch0 | I'm hunting for that function :) |
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| 10:00.25 | mitch0 | ah, ChangeHidden |
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| 10:03.17 | mitch0 | hm. the error isn't obvious from the code. will have to put a lot of prints in it |
| 10:06.21 | pb_ee1 | Cryect: ping |
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| 10:06.52 | Silviu- | ~framexml |
| 10:06.53 | purl | get the official Blizzard Interface AddOn Kit here: http://www.blizzard.com/support/wow/?id=aww01671p or view it online at http://wdn.wowinterface.com/ |
| 10:10.02 | mitch0 | ckk: is it possible that the party frames somehow get mungled withing allFramesByGroup['raid'] ? |
| 10:10.13 | mitch0 | s/withing/within/ |
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| 10:10.25 | ckknight | mitch0: I really doubt it |
| 10:10.30 | ckknight | what makes you think it? |
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| 10:10.45 | mitch0 | when I disable the raid frames (as in fubar -> raid -> disable) |
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| 10:10.55 | mitch0 | it hides the party frames too |
| 10:11.13 | mitch0 | but the menu stays OK for the party frames (that is, according to the menu they're shown) |
| 10:11.48 | mitch0 | and I can't re-enable them by show/hide party frames, it only fixes itself if the party members change |
| 10:12.04 | mitch0 | doesn't touch partyTargets though |
| 10:12.08 | CIA-22 | 03sylvanaar * r44727 10PitBull_Prat/Prat.lua: PitBull_Prat: use the aceevent uid instead of prat's |
| 10:14.28 | ramoz | man |
| 10:14.39 | ramoz | tha add in WAU makes my RDP go bananas |
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| 10:16.01 | Snugglez | Hi. |
| 10:16.23 | ramoz | Hi |
| 10:16.30 | Snugglez | Erm. |
| 10:16.34 | Snugglez | Logged on this morning. |
| 10:16.36 | Snugglez | And got this. |
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| 10:17.07 | Snugglez | http://img172.imageshack.us/img172/2595/aceaddonni3.jpg |
| 10:17.23 | vhaarr | right, so just do what it says, then |
| 10:17.39 | Snugglez | I went to the site, typed in the addon and it didn't find anything. |
| 10:18.16 | vhaarr | http://files.wowace.com/Ace2/Ace2.zip |
| 10:19.30 | Snugglez | Thanks |
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| 10:20.42 | ravagernl | Getting an error about prat missing a library: debugcomponent |
| 10:20.50 | ie|Stiffe | same |
| 10:20.58 | ie|Stiffe | cant find it on wau either :/ |
| 10:22.48 | ie|Stiffe | prat stops working and my bugsack goes nuts |
| 10:22.55 | Athou | Debug-1.0 probably |
| 10:25.23 | ie|Stiffe | yes it worked |
| 10:26.26 | ramoz | i had the same error this moring |
| 10:26.33 | ramoz | installed debug-1.0 and it worked |
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| 10:30.50 | Sole | man Im having some weird shit happening |
| 10:31.59 | ramoz | like what? |
| 10:32.23 | Gngsk | Don't be alarmed |
| 10:32.39 | Wobin | sigh |
| 10:32.44 | Wobin | 2.5k latency |
| 10:32.47 | Wobin | wtf people? |
| 10:32.58 | Gngsk | ? |
| 10:33.03 | Saladin | Lag Forecast: Expect heavy DC's |
| 10:33.35 | Wobin | It's true |
| 10:33.40 | Wobin | I'd say it's iiNet |
| 10:34.04 | Wobin | quite obviously their dooverlackies aren't up to the stress |
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| 10:35.29 | Wobin | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UN6uQjDpod8 |
| 10:36.04 | sb | mhmhm |
| 10:36.16 | sb | wtb sarah connor s01e02 :p |
| 10:36.37 | Wobin | Terminator? |
| 10:36.47 | mitch0 | yay! premades are available on eu-ptr, too now :) |
| 10:37.05 | sb | Wobin: yup |
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| 10:37.34 | Wobin | Lena Headey eh? |
| 10:37.45 | sb | Wobin: yes |
| 10:38.31 | CIA-22 | 03jerry * r44728 10PeriodicTable-3.0/ (4 files in 3 dirs): |
| 10:38.31 | CIA-22 | PeriodicTable-3.0: commit changes suggested on the forum |
| 10:38.31 | CIA-22 | _ Removed Wildhammer Clan Reputation turnins. |
| 10:38.31 | CIA-22 | _ Added Gadgetzan and Lower City Reputation turnins. |
| 10:38.31 | CIA-22 | _ Updated Scryer and Aldor Reputation turnins. |
| 10:38.32 | CIA-22 | _ Updated list of bolts |
| 10:38.53 | Sole | I keep getting an error when I try to transfer a premade on the US ptr :( |
| 10:40.17 | sb | Wobin: http://imdb.com/title/tt0851851/ |
| 10:41.05 | sb | Wobin: timeline is > T2 and < T3 |
| 10:41.52 | Sole | hm |
| 10:42.37 | Wobin | http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/13415404/ |
| 10:43.02 | Wobin | "But if the boy puts in his best effort at school, pays back the woman whose car he stole, doesn’t get behind the wheel for the next year and complies with other conditions, his conviction will be vacated." |
| 10:43.07 | Wobin | Win |
| 10:43.11 | Wobin | So he can drive when he's 12 =P |
| 10:43.24 | Wobin | or 11 =P |
| 10:43.43 | Fisker- | doesn’t get behind the wheel for the next year and complies with other conditions <-deal |
| 10:43.44 | Fisker- | :D |
| 10:43.49 | Fisker- | fu btw |
| 10:45.12 | sb | ckknight: <3 trigger icons :) |
| 10:45.29 | ckknight | :-) |
| 10:45.35 | sb | ckknight: now 'pow' is even more 'pow' (sticky + icon) ;o |
| 10:45.53 | Sole | o_O |
| 10:45.58 | Sole | that story is fucked |
| 10:46.05 | Sole | wish I knew that shit when I was 10 |
| 10:46.12 | Sole | I woulda had me some fun then |
| 10:46.26 | Fisker- | <3 trigger icons? :< |
| 10:46.50 | sb | yes!? :p |
| 10:47.55 | Fisker- | screenies or it didn't happen |
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| 10:49.20 | Fisker- | U tube addict viedeos <-no JUST NOOOOOO |
| 10:49.28 | Fisker- | "utube" |
| 10:50.12 | Fisker- | i'll make a NOUtube then |
| 10:50.39 | Fisker- | asta la vista baby <-noooooooo |
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| 10:56.07 | vhaarr | Nargiddley: ping |
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| 10:56.22 | Nargiddley | vhaarr, pong |
| 10:56.44 | vhaarr | Nargiddley: hey, it seems type="toggle" options in waterfall with isRadio = true set do not appear as radio buttons |
| 10:56.53 | vhaarr | they appear as regular checkboxes |
| 10:57.07 | Nargiddley | hm, dont think i ever implemented that one |
| 10:57.11 | vhaarr | ah |
| 10:57.14 | Nargiddley | is it just a visual change ? |
| 10:57.28 | vhaarr | yeah |
| 10:57.47 | Nargiddley | k i'll get that sometime, bit late to start working on it now |
| 10:58.35 | Fisker- | http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=DE9ROSz4bSE <-lol |
| 11:01.55 | evl_ | wow, that was so not funny |
| 11:02.05 | evl_ | I don't even know where to put it on my not-so-funny-scale |
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| 11:03.27 | Wobin | next to the line |
| 11:03.31 | Wobin | it's not even on scale |
| 11:03.43 | Niocan | Hmm, is it just me... or does ChatMOD's mouse scrolling option not effect SimpleCombatLog o.O |
| 11:04.45 | Sirow | eeeerm, question, if I have a table like this: |
| 11:04.46 | Sirow | someUberTable[10] = { some uber values here} |
| 11:04.46 | Sirow | is there any way to change table to |
| 11:04.46 | Sirow | someUberTable[11] = { some uber values here } |
| 11:04.46 | Sirow | What I want to do is, move data from someUberTable[10] to someUberTable[11], any idea? |
| 11:05.08 | krka | someUberTable[11] = someUberTable[10] |
| 11:06.14 | Sirow | yeah, well lua uses references, so when i do someUberTable[10] = nil, both are lost, right? |
| 11:06.26 | Nargiddley | no |
| 11:06.53 | Nargiddley | the reference is removed, the table and other references to it arent touched |
| 11:07.09 | Sirow | ah, ok, thanks for the info. :) |
| 11:07.11 | vhaarr | something is just removed if its reference count is 0, obviously |
| 11:07.16 | sb | Fisker-: http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-1376578151378534911 - have fun :p |
| 11:07.41 | Nargiddley | someUberTable[10].something = nil would effect both since its the same table |
| 11:08.11 | Fisker- | free smite for healing? :P |
| 11:08.17 | sb | crit |
| 11:08.25 | Fisker- | ah |
| 11:08.30 | Sirow | ok, i think i understand it now, thanks alot :) |
| 11:08.35 | sb | 50% chance for every crit |
| 11:15.00 | pb_ee1 | Cryect: ping |
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| 11:23.42 | CIA-22 | 03ryuji * r44729 10Omen/localization_zhTW.lua: Omen:update zhTW local |
| 11:30.44 | ramoz | [Ammoo]: any plans on adding cooldown (and mouseover/tooltip) to Necronomicon2? |
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| 11:40.03 | CIA-22 | 03pettigrow * r44731 10Omen/localization_frFR.lua: Omen: frFR Update |
| 11:45.19 | CIA-22 | 03jerry * r44732 10PeriodicTable-3.0/ (3 files in 2 dirs): PeriodicTable-3.0: add a couple missing reputation turnins for Netherwing |
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| 12:14.04 | ckknight_ | lol, here's a good tagline: simple enough for even a woman to use |
| 12:17.01 | Matrix110 | add a "blond" |
| 12:17.07 | Megalon | woman is enough |
| 12:17.19 | Neebler | I'm blonde! |
| 12:17.25 | Megalon | "Woman-proof" |
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| 12:21.24 | pb_ee1 | rofl |
| 12:25.30 | Wobin | oh thank god |
| 12:25.37 | Wobin | Big Brother is almost over |
| 12:25.46 | [dRaCo] | hey ckk, great job on parrot =) |
| 12:25.56 | Fisker- | anyone here pwnt archimonde? |
| 12:26.02 | ckknight | [dRaCo]: it's simple enough for even a woman to use |
| 12:26.09 | [dRaCo] | hrhr |
| 12:28.37 | CIA-22 | 03trh * r44733 10FuBar_VolumeFu/VolumeFu.lua: FuBar_VolumeFu: bugfix for unmuting after reloadui |
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| 12:45.07 | pb_ee1 | Dungeon access now available on the LZRoster: http://zorglub6.free.fr/roster/demo-enUS/ |
| 12:46.05 | binder | My guild of like 3 years just broke up, any you of guys on US servers need a prot warrior? |
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| 12:47.14 | trh | pb_ee1: only one dude got keys, no one else? that's kinda odd =) |
| 12:48.17 | pb_ee1 | trh: well actually i only updated my character ^_^ |
| 12:48.23 | pb_ee1 | That's why |
| 12:48.23 | trh | pb_ee1: oh.. ok =) |
| 12:48.33 | pb_ee1 | I'm going to add some fake data to the db |
| 12:48.41 | Necrathex | is there any way to update to the latest wowaceupdater without using internet exploder? |
| 12:48.53 | pb_ee1 | Necrathex: you just have to do it once |
| 12:48.58 | pb_ee1 | it will update itself |
| 12:49.02 | trh | http://bash.org/?786116 <- lol :) |
| 12:49.06 | pb_ee1 | + afterwards |
| 12:49.53 | Necrathex | i kinda disabled the whole IE on my pc.. |
| 12:50.04 | pb_ee1 | that should be impossible |
| 12:50.10 | pb_ee1 | try Start > Execute > iexplore |
| 12:50.50 | Necrathex | that's a security risk! :p |
| 12:50.55 | trh | i'm gonna shot myself before i use ie :) |
| 12:51.15 | pb_ee1 | well i use it for windows update and wowaceupdater |
| 12:51.31 | pb_ee1 | (only once for WAU though ;p) |
| 12:51.54 | Necrathex | so there isn't just a simple installer or zip around somewhere? |
| 12:52.34 | pb_ee1 | http://www.wowace.com/wiki/WowAceUpdater |
| 12:52.51 | trh | i wish WAU could just update itself =) |
| 12:53.27 | sb | uhm |
| 12:53.30 | sb | trh: it does? |
| 12:53.39 | Necrathex | pb_ee1: that's the page i'm currently on |
| 12:53.39 | pb_ee1 | it does |
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| 12:53.49 | sb | run wau from your startmenu |
| 12:53.53 | Necrathex | it's just the installer is complaining about missing parts |
| 12:54.05 | pb_ee1 | Necrathex: did you try to use IE? |
| 12:54.18 | pb_ee1 | it won't work with Firefox unless you install a plugin |
| 12:54.28 | trh | sb: nope. doesn't update itself |
| 12:54.36 | pb_ee1 | trh: it does |
| 12:54.38 | Necrathex | pb_ee1: yea, IE complains about loosening security settings |
| 12:54.40 | sb | yes it does :p |
| 12:54.43 | Necrathex | don't really feel like it :p |
| 12:54.47 | pb_ee1 | argh :p |
| 12:54.52 | pb_ee1 | then i don't know, sorry |
| 12:54.53 | trh | weird.. got 2 entries in the start menu |
| 12:54.58 | trh | one updates it, the other one doesn't |
| 12:55.09 | Necrathex | i'll try the firefox plugin |
| 12:55.48 | Necrathex | ah, that works |
| 12:56.10 | Necrathex | thanks anyways ;) |
| 12:56.11 | trh | ietab is nice :) |
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| 12:56.54 | [dRaCo] | IE and nice don't go together |
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| 12:57.34 | trh | draco: i didn't say IE was nice :) |
| 12:57.39 | trh | draco: IETab is nice :) |
| 12:57.45 | Necrathex | i think you should have a choice of browser |
| 12:58.04 | [dRaCo] | that fx plugin? |
| 12:58.07 | Necrathex | sucks to be forced to use a specific one for certain tasks |
| 12:58.08 | trh | draco: yep |
| 12:58.23 | trh | Necrathex: in theory no problem |
| 12:58.25 | [dRaCo] | ic. didn't say anything :) |
| 12:58.41 | trh | Necrathex: but if you go to the reality and see how different browser interprete ONE standard..... |
| 12:59.30 | Necrathex | trh: that's not really a problem anymore |
| 12:59.54 | trh | Necrathex: lol... you never developed recently any website? |
| 13:00.03 | Necrathex | only IE6 causes compatibility problems |
| 13:00.20 | trh | Necrathex: to bad that like 60% of the internet uses it |
| 13:00.20 | Necrathex | trh: i kinda do that for a living atm :P |
| 13:00.27 | trh | Necrathex: ah well.. fuck those 60% of the users :P |
| 13:01.32 | Necrathex | also depends on the kind of website you'd like to develop ofcourse |
| 13:01.59 | trh | sure.. with text-only, no-tables, no-css you don't get too many problems |
| 13:02.23 | trh | but alone </form> generating a paragraph in ie and not in the firefox has given me lots of headaches :P |
| 13:03.06 | si-m1 | imo you follow standards and make it useable in ie6, but keep it very ugly so people will stop using it :) |
| 13:03.12 | charon | is it actually faster to use WAU with "automatic dependencies" and "without externals"? (on loading) |
| 13:03.25 | trh | si-m1: yeah.. unfortunately not what most users do |
| 13:03.30 | trh | charon: yep |
| 13:03.45 | trh | si-m1: most users see: oh.. site not working.. ok.. i'm gonna use a different site. |
| 13:03.50 | Necrathex | most web developers confuse the w3c standard with 'it works in IE' |
| 13:04.04 | si-m1 | trh: well, let's just hope ms forces an upgrade to ie7 soon |
| 13:04.14 | trh | si-m1: replace not working with "not looking good" or sth :) |
| 13:04.44 | trh | si-m1: i got users with IE5 (!).. such people NEVER upgrade.. they still probably use a win2k that was never patched |
| 13:04.55 | si-m1 | haha |
| 13:05.05 | si-m1 | then they are doomed anyway |
| 13:05.27 | Punkie` | trh: get a wsus server then? :P |
| 13:05.28 | trh | si-m1: well.. sometimes it's not even their choice, they use the system in their company and they can't really change anything |
| 13:05.48 | trh | si-m1: and the lazy admins way is 'don't touch a running system' |
| 13:05.56 | si-m1 | well, they can bug their admins about it |
| 13:06.52 | trh | si-m1: yeah.. and if they get a upgrade they complain about it because the cursor with the comic-mouse stalking some cheese is gone in xp while it was available before |
| 13:06.57 | trh | tbh: users suck |
| 13:07.01 | si-m1 | but ofcourse.. it depends on your userbase |
| 13:07.12 | trh | luckily i'm not a admin :) |
| 13:07.23 | Droolio | http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=5542.msg93226#msg93226 < can someone confirm if this is true? file-local vars are now shared through all .lua's now? |
| 13:07.26 | trh | but you hear stories from some of them... you get goosebumps |
| 13:07.32 | charon | trh: ok thanks. so now i've got a mess in my addons folder and a perfect justification for it ;) |
| 13:07.51 | trh | charon: got like 200 addons because of hundreds of libs ;) |
| 13:08.09 | trh | charon: but the startup is alot faster than with alle embedded libs |
| 13:08.12 | si-m1 | haha.. indeed.. oh noes, i cannot open the Microsoft Powerpoint files i get from my friends anymore :P |
| 13:08.15 | trh | charon: also better maintaineable |
| 13:08.18 | Wobin | Droolio: er? |
| 13:08.30 | Wobin | Droolio: that's if "all the files are concatenated together" |
| 13:08.57 | Droolio | Wobin: aha! that's in the context of what they were trying to do concating stuff together? |
| 13:09.11 | Wobin | yeah |
| 13:09.22 | Droolio | ok that makes sense now. back to self.var then |
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| 13:21.43 | CIA-22 | 03poull * r44735 10PallyPowerInfo/ (. Libs/ PallyPowerInfo.lua PallyPowerInfo.toc): |
| 13:21.43 | CIA-22 | PallyPowerInfo: Initial commit |
| 13:21.43 | CIA-22 | Monitor blessings from your paladins (with PallyPower). |
| 13:24.21 | N3cr0m4ncer | Hm...but you can see what blessing which paladin is casting with pallypower. So what does this addon? Monitoring the duration of the other blessings? |
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| 13:32.03 | Fisker- | N3cr0m4ncer probably more along the line if it's being done |
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| 13:33.47 | Chompers | you made that name up Fisker- |
| 13:33.54 | Chompers | no one would call themselves that |
| 13:33.55 | jme | off topic, but will athlon XP socket A chips work in any socket A board? |
| 13:34.40 | jme | upgrading the thunderbird in my old abit kr7a-raid, i think it only has a 133mhz fsb though |
| 13:34.45 | CIA-22 | 03poull * r44736 10PallyPowerInfo/: PallyPowerInfo: Added externals. |
| 13:37.16 | sb | Cryect: mhm - bigbrother needs some sort of 'export' function :o (display current raid buffs/flasks/... in XML/CSV in some textbox where you can copy the text from) :) |
| 13:38.39 | kebinusan | Bleh, WTB Druids who arent idiots |
| 13:39.16 | kebinusan | None of our resto druids could manage to kill their inner demons on leo last night, so one of em suggests we just bring MORE druids and brez them after the raid kills them |
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| 13:44.47 | Josh_Borke | kebinusan: why, what a BRILLIANT idea |
| 13:45.20 | kebinusan | JB, yeah our druids always manage to amaze me with such brilliant gems |
| 13:46.06 | kebinusan | Or just not knowing the boss abilities before the pull despite the whole fight being gone over on vent and posted on the forums for a week.. and I still get asked 'can someone help me kill my demon?' |
| 13:46.10 | JY|Screen | kebinusan: i tried spamming moonfire once |
| 13:46.15 | kebinusan | keeps it interesting |
| 13:46.37 | JY|Screen | winkiller: 3 |
| 13:46.39 | JY|Screen | oups |
| 13:46.47 | kebinusan | heh |
| 13:46.52 | nevcairiel | just get dmg gear and its easy as resto |
| 13:47.16 | beerke | I got a question, does violation read the threat broadcasted by KTM ? |
| 13:47.25 | Matrix110 | no |
| 13:47.36 | Matrix110 | Threat-1.0 takes care of such things |
| 13:47.44 | Matrix110 | Violation just displays Threat-1.0 data |
| 13:48.25 | kebinusan | Yeah, spose they could pull a few points from 61 resto for things like imp wrath if need be |
| 13:48.25 | beerke | so threat can, but violation does not have the option to do so |
| 13:48.30 | JY|Screen | 33/0/28 and 24/0/3x are fine |
| 13:48.30 | kebinusan | I do admit its fun killing them when they get mind controlled tho |
| 13:48.55 | nevcairiel | kebinusan: not even required, just get them like 400 +dmg gear, and prolly a priest to shield them when barkskin runs out, and its piss easy |
| 13:48.57 | Matrix110 | beerke its automatically integrated as Threat-1.0 does it |
| 13:48.57 | JY|Screen | but my raid leader dont like druids with point not in resto |
| 13:49.02 | nevcairiel | nature spells do have dmg bonus |
| 13:49.43 | nevcairiel | we get the druids a shaman in grp if possible, for the +dmg totem |
| 13:49.47 | nevcairiel | that helps alot too |
| 13:49.55 | Kalman| | It amazes me when I watch a priest stand there and get beat on by their demon. |
| 13:49.57 | Kalman| | Fear, idiot. |
| 13:50.19 | kebinusan | hehe yea |
| 13:50.21 | nevcairiel | our priests dont fear, because when the demon runs out of range, you are dead |
| 13:50.39 | beerke | Matrix110: Yet violation has a target threat monitor, but it doesn't include KTM threat, cause violation does not enable tje option to read the data. Or am i saying iot wrong ? |
| 13:50.46 | Kalman| | If it stands there hitting them, they aren't going to kill it either. |
| 13:51.01 | Kalman| | beerke: Violation shows threat provided by ThreatLib, which reads KTM data. |
| 13:51.03 | kebinusan | I got to do the warlock tank thing, its a bit unnerving w/o soul link but was kinda fun |
| 13:51.08 | Kalman| | Violation itself does not read from KTM. |
| 13:51.19 | Matrix110 | Kalman| i already said that he just doest get it:P |
| 13:51.53 | beerke | You said no, yet it does. |
| 13:52.10 | beerke | Threat reads KTM, Violation reads Threat |
| 13:52.21 | beerke | In effect Violation reads Threat data then |
| 13:52.48 | Matrix110 | "(15:47:38) (Matrix110) Threat-1.0 takes care of such things" |
| 13:52.53 | Matrix110 | "(15:48:59) (Matrix110) beerke its automatically integrated as Threat-1.0 does it" |
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| 13:53.30 | sag_ich_nicht | god |
| 13:53.32 | beerke | but you said no to my question, anyways i got the message :) |
| 13:53.33 | sag_ich_nicht | okay |
| 13:53.37 | sag_ich_nicht | let me sum this up for you |
| 13:53.55 | kebinusan | This really amuses me, http://youtube.com/watch?v=K2cYWfq--Nw |
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| 13:54.18 | sag_ich_nicht | let (Threat measured by Threat-1.0 + threat from TKM)=data that threat-1.0 gives to violation |
| 13:54.21 | sag_ich_nicht | OKAY? |
| 13:54.27 | sag_ich_nicht | -let |
| 13:56.37 | CIA-22 | 03poull * r44737 10PallyPowerInfo/PallyPowerInfo.lua: PallyPowerInfo: Updated fubar title. |
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| 13:59.30 | Wobin | kebinusan: That's crazy =P |
| 14:00.12 | kebinusan | hehe yeah wobin |
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| 14:04.09 | Fisker- | i thought she was some kind of retard kebinusan |
| 14:04.27 | Fisker- | just let it run in the background for awesome music :P |
| 14:05.39 | kebinusan | well it is youtube |
| 14:05.41 | Fisker- | that's pretty amazing |
| 14:05.57 | Fisker- | 1 million views, 4k comments and 8k ratings |
| 14:05.59 | Fisker- | and NO honors |
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| 14:06.00 | Fisker- | :D |
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| 14:08.13 | kebinusan | could be worse, could have kanye west ruining the song |
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| 14:10.21 | Mecha | Anyone here that could help me with Omen/Recount? |
| 14:10.48 | kebinusan | likely, but we wont know till you ask |
| 14:10.53 | Mecha | ;) |
| 14:11.03 | deltron | ~asktoask |
| 14:11.03 | purl | This is IRC. Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question and if someone's around, they'll be glad to help. |
| 14:11.19 | kebinusan | hmm going to have to remember that one |
| 14:11.26 | Mecha | Just a sec : ) |
| 14:11.37 | kebinusan | ~shootme |
| 14:11.52 | kebinusan | hmm, no thats not it |
| 14:11.59 | kebinusan | ah well |
| 14:12.03 | kebinusan | ~hypotoad |
| 14:12.05 | Amadeo | kebinusan: What class do you play again? Druid? |
| 14:12.16 | kebinusan | Nah Warlock |
| 14:12.19 | Amadeo | Oh yeah |
| 14:12.21 | Amadeo | My memory rocks |
| 14:12.23 | Mecha | Can I paste a few lines from the error message? |
| 14:12.34 | Mecha | Or does that violate some rule? :) |
| 14:12.49 | kebinusan | if its longer than a line, just use the pastebin in the topic |
| 14:12.51 | kebinusan | and paste a url |
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| 14:13.12 | Mecha | Okay |
| 14:15.18 | Mecha | So basically this -> http://ace.pastey.net/71249 <- is what I get when I try to load Omen. I've installed Threat-1.0 aswell. |
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| 14:15.42 | Uhuru | hi |
| 14:15.50 | kebinusan | Mecha, need to install Babble as well |
| 14:16.02 | Mecha | Ok |
| 14:16.08 | ccKep | http://files.wowace.com/Babble-2.2/Babble-2.2-r44730.zip |
| 14:16.14 | Uhuru | someone can explain me how to show player's pet in raid mode with aguf ? |
| 14:16.54 | Mecha | Is Recount dependent on Babble aswell? |
| 14:17.33 | ccKep | just download the versions with externals and you should be fine as well I think |
| 14:18.05 | kebinusan | or if you use the WAU just donwload the !!!Standalone libs thing |
| 14:18.21 | Mecha | Okay, anyway this -> http://ace.pastey.net/71250 <- is the error I get when I try to move my Recount window. |
| 14:18.24 | kebinusan | though thats a bit of a kitchen sink |
| 14:18.29 | ccKep | http://files.wowace.com/Omen/Omen.zip << for example |
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| 14:18.50 | ccKep | thats the omen version with externals, that should work out of the box |
| 14:19.21 | kebinusan | Theres a similar thing on files for recount as well |
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| 14:23.46 | Uhuru | how can i display players' pets with aguf in raid mode plz ? |
| 14:24.12 | ccKep | << using pitbull ^.^ |
| 14:25.04 | kebinusan | no clue, I use grid and dont care about pets :-) |
| 14:25.21 | Sirow | Uhuru: I'm not using aguf, but I think you don't... |
| 14:25.23 | kebinusan | Might want to check the wowace forums though, probably something posted their on raidpets for aguf |
| 14:25.29 | jme | my pet offtanked illhoof's pet once, true story |
| 14:25.39 | jme | my cat even |
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| 14:26.30 | Uhuru | i don't what ? |
| 14:27.01 | Uhuru | pitbull is better than aguf ? |
| 14:27.20 | Sirow | I THINK (may be wrong) that pets arn't supported in raids |
| 14:27.32 | yacoob | Uhuru, about 37% better. |
| 14:27.43 | jme | lol |
| 14:27.46 | kebinusan | It also cleans with the power of pine |
| 14:27.48 | Uhuru | 37 or 37.5 ? |
| 14:28.34 | yacoob | it's a bit of a running target, that's true. |
| 14:29.01 | Uhuru | pitbull can show pets in raid mode ? |
| 14:29.08 | nevcairiel | and about 500% mehr resource usage for 37% that no one really needs =P |
| 14:29.20 | nevcairiel | s/mehr/more/ |
| 14:29.47 | Tornhoof | ck is sponsored by intel |
| 14:29.48 | Uhuru | nevcairiel can you say me how to show pets in raid mode with aguf ? |
| 14:29.49 | Sirow | I thought "more is better"? :> |
| 14:30.39 | kebinusan | I think ckk likes to drown people in configuration options |
| 14:31.34 | kebinusan | After about the fourth time I tried to create custom tags only to update and have them reset on me I just gave up and kept the defaults |
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| 14:32.18 | Uhuru | ... |
| 14:32.26 | kebinusan | dont get scared now |
| 14:32.42 | Uhuru | is pitbull can show pets in raid mode ? |
| 14:32.50 | kebinusan | I dont know |
| 14:32.53 | [dRaCo] | yes |
| 14:32.57 | kebinusan | Id assume so |
| 14:33.07 | Uhuru | ok so aguf should can too |
| 14:33.16 | Uhuru | just need to find how |
| 14:33.18 | kebinusan | I think pitbull can show me where I lost my wallet, but I havent found the right configuration option for it |
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| 14:34.28 | [Ammo] | pitbull is DUF but with Ace2 sauce |
| 14:34.51 | Sirow | lol, that hit the spot XD |
| 14:35.14 | Fisker- | This channel better convert to Ace2 or GTFO! |
| 14:35.31 | jme | lolol |
| 14:35.34 | Sirow | GTFO ? |
| 14:35.34 | Fisker- | obvious troll is NOT obvious |
| 14:35.44 | Fisker- | Sirow get the f... out |
| 14:35.45 | Fisker- | :P |
| 14:35.51 | Fisker- | internal joke |
| 14:35.53 | jme | Sirow: get the Fisker- out |
| 14:35.54 | Fisker- | only i know what it means |
| 14:35.56 | jme | Sirow: i mean |
| 14:36.01 | jme | Sirow: what he said! |
| 14:36.13 | Sirow | ah ok ^^ |
| 14:36.25 | Fisker- | Some guy linked to a mod once (Recount) |
| 14:36.37 | jme | lies! |
| 14:36.39 | Fisker- | and then the "omg i'm 1337 worship me"-dude said "Ace2 or GTFO" |
| 14:36.40 | kebinusan | actually ammo when you put it that way, I think I like configuring pitbull 100x better than duf |
| 14:36.47 | Fisker- | not actually realizing that Recount IS Ace2 |
| 14:37.11 | jme | Fisker-: the php channel has one of those people too |
| 14:37.26 | kebinusan | Crazy zealots |
| 14:37.36 | jme | Fisker-: i asked "any ldap people here?" and he goes off on me for like 5 minutes about why i should ask the question first and not say anything else |
| 14:37.41 | jme | haha |
| 14:39.56 | Fisker- | :D |
| 14:40.05 | jme | hmm |
| 14:42.17 | pb_ee1 | Cryect: ping |
| 14:42.47 | Fisker- | JUST ASK YOUR DAMN QUESTION |
| 14:42.50 | Fisker- | oh wait |
| 14:43.08 | kebinusan | ~asktoask |
| 14:43.08 | purl | This is IRC. Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question and if someone's around, they'll be glad to help. |
| 14:43.26 | kebinusan | ~botsnack |
| 14:43.26 | purl | kebinusan: thanks |
| 14:43.57 | Fisker- | ~gtfo |
| 14:44.11 | Sirow | ~spoon |
| 14:44.12 | purl | There is no spoon. Ok, perhaps you meant: Parallel execution of command batches for SMP machines. URL: http://www.farcaster.net/xris/spoon/ |
| 14:44.17 | kebinusan | ~whaletubes Fisker- |
| 14:44.18 | purl | ACTION stuffs an incredibly flexible whale named Theodore into Fisker-'s tubes. Fisker-'s internets no worky :( |
| 14:44.28 | Fisker- | purl gtfo is sorry sir, i won't both you anymore. |
| 14:44.29 | purl | Fisker-: okay |
| 14:44.42 | Fisker- | purl gtfo is <reply>sorry sir, i won't both you anymore. |
| 14:44.42 | purl | ...but gtfo is already something else... |
| 14:44.47 | Fisker- | purl no gtfo is <reply>sorry sir, i won't both you anymore. |
| 14:44.48 | purl | Fisker-: okay |
| 14:44.51 | Fisker- | ~gtfo |
| 14:44.51 | purl | sorry sir, i won't both you anymore. |
| 14:44.55 | Fisker- | yay |
| 14:45.05 | kebinusan | wont both you anymore? |
| 14:45.07 | Sirow | omg lol |
| 14:45.57 | kebinusan | purl no gtfo is <reply>Sorry sir, I won't bother you anymore. |
| 14:45.58 | purl | kebinusan: okay |
| 14:46.26 | kebinusan | ~hypnotoad |
| 14:46.27 | purl | All glory to the hypnotoad! CLAP. CLAP. |
| 14:47.36 | kebinusan | bleh |
| 14:47.41 | Cryect | pb_ee1: pong |
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| 14:48.06 | pb_ee1 | Cryect: is there a way to have two windows of recount at the same time? |
| 14:48.14 | Cryect | not currently |
| 14:48.16 | pb_ee1 | i.e.: threat + something else |
| 14:48.18 | pb_ee1 | working on? |
| 14:48.36 | Cryect | the threat window is actually broken in some respects at the moment |
| 14:48.44 | pb_ee1 | aha? |
| 14:48.46 | Cryect | It has a tendency of people not showing up for some strange reason |
| 14:49.00 | pb_ee1 | hummm i had this same problem with omen actually |
| 14:49.03 | Cryect | you change to another thing and back and suddenly they are there |
| 14:49.08 | Cryect | its not omen its Recount |
| 14:49.20 | pb_ee1 | aha, not exactly the same problem |
| 14:49.25 | Cryect | because I see the threat being recorded still in graph mode |
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| 14:50.08 | Cryect | But its a plan though |
| 14:50.19 | pb_ee1 | and do you plan to let the user have two windows at the same time in a near (or far) future? |
| 14:50.22 | Cryect | I've been working on convertingto a slightly more modular window system |
| 14:50.23 | pb_ee1 | ho ok ;) |
| 14:50.36 | Cryect | at the moment and near future you are limited to one window |
| 14:50.45 | Cryect | lots of code that needs to be changed :-p |
| 14:50.52 | pb_ee1 | hehe |
| 14:50.59 | pb_ee1 | I have three comments on Recount btw |
| 14:51.05 | Cryect | wasn't something I was thinking of when I started |
| 14:51.35 | pb_ee1 | 1) icons on the title bar should be movable or outside the frame, because when you have a small frame it becomes unreadable |
| 14:51.46 | kebinusan | The death tracking is great, I use it all the time in raids to answer that wonderful question: ZOMG How did he die? |
| 14:51.48 | pb_ee1 | a tooltip could be shown when hovering the title bar though, that would fix the problem |
| 14:51.55 | pb_ee1 | http://images.lords-zodiac.com/559/q9mplsjqsi.jpg |
| 14:52.15 | pb_ee1 | 2) we never know what is displayed in the window: overall, last fight or current fight? No "tick" is shown near the correct option when selecting it |
| 14:52.23 | pb_ee1 | 3) you should detail more what "save timed data" is, I didn't manage to find what it was |
| 14:52.26 | Cryect | 1) yeah, I want to add that |
| 14:52.30 | pb_ee1 | that's all :p |
| 14:52.43 | Uhuru | wtf how to set aguf to show pets in raid mode ?! |
| 14:52.52 | Cryect | 2) Thinking up ideas how to present it better(prolly in a tooltip if you over the title) |
| 14:53.03 | pb_ee1 | Uhuru: type /pitbull conf... haha nevermind ;p |
| 14:53.10 | Uhuru | ahah ... |
| 14:53.29 | Cryect | 3) Saved Time data is the Stopwatch under filters in the config |
| 14:54.02 | Cryect | if its enabled for someone it records their DPS/HPS/DTPS/etc values over time |
| 14:55.16 | pb_ee1 | yup, i was talking about what it was doing, not where it was ;-) |
| 14:55.28 | Cryect | Oh yeah |
| 14:55.31 | Cryect | I need to expand the tooltips |
| 14:55.41 | Cryect | I need to go through and add lots really |
| 14:55.51 | pb_ee1 | why did you call it "saved time data" and not "record more details for selected entities"? |
| 14:56.21 | pb_ee1 | (or something like that) |
| 14:56.23 | Cryect | because its time data? :-p |
| 14:56.32 | Cryect | Because every option is record more details? |
| 14:56.41 | Cryect | except for SHow |
| 14:56.41 | pb_ee1 | lol, true |
| 14:56.55 | Cryect | Reminds me I still need to add buff tracking |
| 14:56.58 | pb_ee1 | but well, "timed data" is not very representative for a basic user (such as me) |
| 14:57.29 | pb_ee1 | maybe "per second" data would do it (or not, you are the author :P) |
| 14:58.05 | pb_ee1 | the user would automatically think "damage per second", and then "healing, etc." |
| 14:58.19 | Cryect | Don't want that because then it would confuse them with the DPS/HPS numbers |
| 14:58.35 | Cryect | I just need a description of what its recording |
| 14:58.50 | Cryect | plus a big red "WARNING: Memory Hog" |
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| 14:59.48 | pb_ee1 | hehe |
| 15:00.07 | pb_ee1 | ho, btw, on my 1.6Ghz 748MB of RAM, recount works more nicely than sw stats alone |
| 15:00.19 | Cryect | good good |
| 15:00.27 | Cryect | prolly because you were already using something that used parserlib |
| 15:00.29 | pb_ee1 | well, this is what i've seen, but i did not check with fubar_performancefu. at least, it was working pretty well |
| 15:00.42 | pb_ee1 | sct, yes, and pitbull i suppose |
| 15:00.45 | pb_ee1 | scl* sorry |
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| 15:00.48 | Cryect | its pretty good till you enable profiling with a lot of combatants |
| 15:00.59 | pb_ee1 | well it was with a 25-man party |
| 15:00.59 | Cryect | the time of a few functions explodes in profiling mode |
| 15:01.04 | Cryect | 25 man is small |
| 15:01.09 | Cryect | well I say huge I mean huge |
| 15:01.18 | pb_ee1 | did you say yesterday it was going to lag with 400 people? |
| 15:01.33 | Cryect | like 400-500 combatants would disconnect me everytime I left combat with profiling on |
| 15:01.44 | Cryect | but you couldn't even notice it was doing something if profiling was disabled |
| 15:01.47 | Cryect | yes |
| 15:01.52 | pb_ee1 | hum... but HOW would you get 400-500 combatants at the screen at the same time? ;p |
| 15:01.57 | Mecdemort | is there a way to find out what the current revision of a checkedout addon is without looking for a $revision$ tag? |
| 15:01.58 | Cryect | thats not what i mean |
| 15:02.07 | Cryect | I mean 400 combatants in the data tables |
| 15:02.14 | pb_ee1 | aha |
| 15:02.21 | pb_ee1 | so 25 + number of mobs must be < 400 |
| 15:02.34 | pb_ee1 | (in a 25-members raid) |
| 15:02.38 | Cryect | whenever you leave combat it does stuff with them (it tries to only work with people in the last fight but due to reloads the first 2 fights uses all of them) |
| 15:03.03 | Cryect | Since has to move the current fight data to last fight data and wipe the old last fight data |
| 15:03.24 | pb_ee1 | Mecdemort: during the update, your updater should display the rev # |
| 15:03.39 | pb_ee1 | Cryect: i see. impressive. |
| 15:03.54 | Mecdemort | pb_ee1: Ya but I'm trying to find out if they need an update |
| 15:04.01 | pb_ee1 | so you have a lot of timed functions? i mean, do this 3 seconds after the fight, this at xx s, ... |
| 15:04.19 | pb_ee1 | Mecdemort: with an addon? |
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| 15:05.07 | Mecdemort | pb_ee1: no |
| 15:05.20 | Cryect | pb_ee1: more like its do this right after the fight plus every second in combat do this, also check if we are entering/leaving combat etc |
| 15:05.22 | pb_ee1 | Mecdemort: then just launch wau and update ;) |
| 15:05.55 | Mecdemort | pb_ee1: i think that would screw up addons that are currently under SVN |
| 15:05.58 | Cryect | can't delay the stuff after a fight since you might be entering into a new fight soon and best to do processor heavy stuff on leaving combat |
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| 15:06.16 | CIA-22 | Assessment |
| 15:06.16 | CIA-22 | - Titles are included in reports even if windows have them disabled |
| 15:06.23 | Matrix110 | is Recount autodisabled in Arena? |
| 15:06.23 | Cryect | Mecdemort: Its ignores SVN directories |
| 15:06.35 | Cryect | no why would it be? |
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| 15:07.03 | Matrix110 | or well the amount of data collected is prolly very low so you notice the ooc functions |
| 15:07.10 | Matrix110 | *wont |
| 15:07.13 | Cryect | yeah you won't notice them |
| 15:07.15 | pb_ee1 | Cryect: really impressive hehe, i would not have trust a friend if he had told me we could have all these infos with an addon... and without lag |
| 15:07.31 | pb_ee1 | i spent 1h30 out of 3h00 during raid just looking at those shiny graphs (lol) |
| 15:07.44 | Cryect | the only conditions I've noticed them have been with profiling enabled (which I hope no one would do while arenaing) |
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| 15:08.36 | pb_ee1 | Cryect: can you think about a situation in WoW where recount would show its limits? |
| 15:08.50 | Cryect | at recording data no, but the graph window shows it |
| 15:09.02 | pb_ee1 | how? |
| 15:09.12 | Cryect | the graph window turn on stacked mode |
| 15:09.16 | Cryect | add a lot of combatants |
| 15:09.21 | pb_ee1 | sorry for these questions, i'm just learning a bit in order to report this to my guild if they have questions ;-) |
| 15:09.26 | Cryect | and the processing time inflates a lot |
| 15:09.38 | Cryect | seems to be WoW doesn't like working with that many textures |
| 15:09.52 | pb_ee1 | humm |
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| 15:09.58 | pb_ee1 | ok something i don't understand |
| 15:10.20 | pb_ee1 | i'm playing in a 25-man raid. how would recount display more than 25 bars? ;p |
| 15:10.40 | Cryect | you are showing pet/boss data? |
| 15:10.48 | pb_ee1 | no |
| 15:10.57 | pb_ee1 | or i don't think so (must double check) |
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| 15:11.16 | Cryect | well look at the 25 bars being shown and tell me what shouldn't belong :-p |
| 15:12.08 | pb_ee1 | i cannot launch the game at the moment, i'm at work :'( |
| 15:12.27 | Cryect | or get a 25 man raid |
| 15:12.34 | pb_ee1 | i'll get one tonight |
| 15:13.08 | pb_ee1 | what should i check/do to test what you are talking about? |
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| 15:13.48 | Cryect | not sure, I have no idea what you are causing to occur |
| 15:13.56 | Cryect | you were saying its an issue and was curious whats wrong |
| 15:14.41 | pb_ee1 | ho, i surely expressed myself wrong again :'( I'm French actually |
| 15:15.52 | pb_ee1 | seems that the "can you think about a situation in WoW where recount would show its limits?" was not correct |
| 15:16.34 | pb_ee1 | i was just asking if i could see the limits of recount in a particular situation (i have to do _this_ for recount to lag/...) |
| 15:16.51 | pb_ee1 | because you told me it was possible |
| 15:16.59 | Cryect | enabling profiling, go do AV 8 times or so |
| 15:17.05 | Cryect | don't reset data once |
| 15:17.21 | Kalman| | Probably need to turn off autodeletion of data as well? |
| 15:17.23 | pb_ee1 | aha, and i will have more than 400 combatants in my data |
| 15:17.39 | Cryect | Kalman|: Don't need to bother with that it doesn't autodelete combatants yet :-p |
| 15:17.52 | pb_ee1 | what does it delete then? :) |
| 15:17.57 | Cryect | time data |
| 15:18.04 | Cryect | Basically the graph based data |
| 15:18.07 | Cryect | which takes up teh most ram |
| 15:18.08 | pb_ee1 | aha, timed data again (someone KILL HIM! ;p) |
| 15:18.09 | Kalman| | The thing that makes Recount's memory usage go through the roof. |
| 15:18.17 | Kalman| | But which is also the most useful thing about it. |
| 15:19.17 | pb_ee1 | graph data = http://images.lords-zodiac.com/559/8h86u2ykc6.jpg _or_ http://images.lords-zodiac.com/559/16ppu8put5.jpg _or_ both? |
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| 15:19.29 | Cryect | no |
| 15:19.37 | Cryect | one second |
| 15:19.38 | Uhuru | ckknight ? |
| 15:19.46 | Cryect | http://acm.jhu.edu/~cryect/Recount/graph1.jpg http://acm.jhu.edu/~cryect/Recount/graph2.jpg |
| 15:20.08 | Antiarc|Work | Morning all |
| 15:20.19 | Cryect | those two are graph data |
| 15:20.33 | Cryect | realtime windows don't store anything besides whats being shown at the moment |
| 15:20.48 | Uhuru | hi Antiarc |
| 15:20.57 | pb_ee1 | Cryect: thanks. note btw, you should put numbers on the horizontal bar instead of "x gridlines represent..." (my advice only) |
| 15:21.11 | Cryect | pb_ee1: If I could easily I would |
| 15:21.15 | Uhuru | Antiarc|Work do you know how to show pets in raid mode with aguf ? |
| 15:21.24 | Cryect | you can't make vertical rotated text >_> |
| 15:21.38 | pb_ee1 | not necessarely rotated, should they? |
| 15:21.44 | Cryect | well for their length |
| 15:21.49 | Antiarc|Work | No idea. |
| 15:21.51 | Cryect | they need to be slightly rotated |
| 15:21.52 | pb_ee1 | you can just put "30, 60, 90, ..." |
| 15:21.53 | Antiarc|Work | I use PitBull |
| 15:21.55 | pb_ee1 | haaa right |
| 15:21.58 | Cryect | I could put time from the start I guess |
| 15:22.12 | Cryect | Depends what time relative do I want to it from |
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| 15:22.21 | pb_ee1 | sure |
| 15:22.26 | Cryect | I guess I can do it relative to the start of the selected fight or if none is selected the left side |
| 15:22.38 | Uhuru | everybody use pitbull ? i eard that it use too many ressources |
| 15:22.47 | pb_ee1 | hum i'm just thinking about it, just realizing i did not test it: do these graphs update themselves automatically during fight? |
| 15:23.00 | Cryect | those graphs no |
| 15:23.04 | Cryect | there is a refresh button |
| 15:23.15 | pb_ee1 | argh, and they still use a lot of processing/memory :( |
| 15:23.17 | mitch0 | [ammo]: you around? |
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| 15:23.20 | CIA-22 | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:23.27 | Cryect | it only uses processing/memory whenyou press a button |
| 15:23.36 | Cryect | they don't do anything if nothing gets pressed/refreshed |
| 15:23.37 | pb_ee1 | Uhuru: surely not |
| 15:23.52 | Cryect | But if you have a lot of data being shown it can take like 5 to 10 seconds to dispaly |
| 15:23.54 | Cryect | or even longer |
| 15:24.04 | Cryect | depending on the settings |
| 15:24.09 | Cryect | line based display is normally good though |
| 15:24.22 | pb_ee1 | when you have more than 400 combatants, or is it not the same thing (sorry i'm trying to put things together ;) ) |
| 15:24.30 | Cryect | not the same thing |
| 15:24.33 | pb_ee1 | grrrr |
| 15:24.43 | Cryect | you will notice slowdown in Stacked Graphs with a full raid |
| 15:24.51 | Cryect | but they can show useful info let me show a useful one |
| 15:25.09 | pb_ee1 | Cryect: well it's not a real problem if you do enable them only manually |
| 15:25.50 | Cryect | http://img522.imageshack.us/img522/5378/dpslastgorefiendeb2.jpg |
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| 15:26.44 | pb_ee1 | how much time does it take to generate these graphs? |
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| 15:26.55 | Cryect | like 5 seconds on those |
| 15:27.08 | pb_ee1 | argh i see, it's quite a lot. |
| 15:27.55 | pb_ee1 | and i'm sorry to see that you did not down Gorefiend :( |
| 15:28.06 | Cryect | haha yeah was showing the raid some stuff |
| 15:28.23 | Cryect | We've since killed him but that was like the first night of learning him |
| 15:28.36 | Cryect | a different fight |
| 15:28.39 | pb_ee1 | hehe |
| 15:29.13 | pb_ee1 | last question, because i still did not understand (if you don't want to answer it again, no worries): |
| 15:29.27 | pb_ee1 | what does make recount lag when having more than 400 combattants in memory? |
| 15:29.46 | mitch0 | anyone knows if Violation handles anonymous pet damage correctly? that is, having for example 2 frost mages with water elementals in the party, will they get correct damage values, or both water elementals will be added to both mages? |
| 15:29.50 | Cryect | leaving combat it resets a bunch of data |
| 15:30.09 | mitch0 | I sorta remember testing this but I forgot the result ;) |
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| 15:30.27 | pb_ee1 | and it checks that for the 400 combatants, this is why it lags? |
| 15:30.38 | Cryect | yeah its only an issue on a reloadui |
| 15:30.52 | Cryect | because then its unsure if those 400 combatants have been active in the last 2 potential fights |
| 15:31.02 | Cryect | after 2 fights it shouldn't lag anymore |
| 15:31.11 | pb_ee1 | hoo so it checks them for the two next fights? i see |
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| 15:31.24 | pb_ee1 | so it's a problem only on /rl and disconnections |
| 15:31.29 | Cryect | yeah |
| 15:31.34 | Antiarc|Work | mitch0: I don't believe it can differentiate between them. |
| 15:31.37 | pb_ee1 | hum, not a minor, but not a major problem too :) |
| 15:31.46 | Mecha | Does Recount sync with SWStats? Like with resets and stuff? |
| 15:31.53 | pb_ee1 | no mecha |
| 15:32.00 | Cryect | No Recount doesn't |
| 15:32.04 | mitch0 | hm |
| 15:32.06 | Mecha | Okay |
| 15:32.06 | pb_ee1 | there is NO WAY to reset YOUR recount if you did not asked yourself to do so ;) |
| 15:32.07 | mitch0 | will test again |
| 15:32.18 | mitch0 | now off, seeya |
| 15:32.33 | Cryect | reminding me I have to work on my pet solution as well |
| 15:32.49 | pb_ee1 | what's the problem? |
| 15:33.13 | pb_ee1 | (reading back the logs... ;p) |
| 15:33.25 | Cryect | pets get added to everyone equally |
| 15:33.40 | Cryect | for like water elementals |
| 15:33.49 | pb_ee1 | ho :p |
| 15:33.55 | Cryect | solution |
| 15:34.01 | pb_ee1 | and hunter's pets? |
| 15:34.03 | Cryect | check who has a pet for now and just split the damage |
| 15:34.08 | Cryect | hunter pets have unique names normally |
| 15:34.34 | pb_ee1 | haaa i see. isn't there a "<characer's minion>" message on the summoned elemental? |
| 15:35.02 | Cryect | yeah |
| 15:35.07 | Antiarc|Work | Yes, but that doesn't show in the combat log. |
| 15:35.11 | pb_ee1 | but you cannot access it with the combat log? |
| 15:35.16 | Antiarc|Work | Water Elemental's Water Bolt hits Mob for 1234. |
| 15:35.24 | Antiarc|Work | Tell me who Water Elemental belongs to. :P |
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| 15:35.34 | Cryect | the best I can do is two things |
| 15:35.42 | pb_ee1 | Antiarc|Work: you're wrong: generally it's "mob hits you for 15478" |
| 15:35.45 | pb_ee1 | (lol) |
| 15:35.49 | Antiarc|Work | Heh |
| 15:35.50 | Cryect | 1. If no one is running such addon I can split up the damage across the people |
| 15:35.54 | Cryect | who currently have the pet up |
| 15:36.01 | Cryect | 2. If a player is running the addon |
| 15:36.06 | Cryect | I can then get their pet data exactly |
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| 15:36.11 | pb_ee1 | ho |
| 15:36.18 | Cryect | because it goes to special pet events |
| 15:36.26 | Matrix110 | If i as the mage with Water Elemental let Recount or any other Damagemeter mod run it can detect my pets dmg |
| 15:36.34 | pb_ee1 | so it's a minor loss of damage data precision |
| 15:36.49 | Cryect | sometimes it a major change :-p |
| 15:36.54 | Cryect | like say Teron Gorefiend |
| 15:37.16 | pb_ee1 | I have the solution: we will force the entire world to install recount! That's it! CRYECT IS OUR GOD ! |
| 15:37.22 | Cryect | Don't do that yet |
| 15:37.28 | Cryect | not quite happy with syncing yet |
| 15:37.34 | pb_ee1 | "You are not prepared?" |
| 15:37.38 | pb_ee1 | ho i see ;) |
| 15:37.55 | Cryect | I wish AceComm would return a msg on how large the queue currently is so I know if its okay to send more data or not |
| 15:37.58 | Mecha | Just a small question about profiles with most ace addons, is there a way to save ur current set as a new profile? Im might just be plain stupid, but all I can find in the profile area is Choose, Copy, Delete, and Other.. cant find any "save profile". :) |
| 15:38.03 | pb_ee1 | that is an info i can hardly check wether is is correct or not |
| 15:38.30 | Cryect | Its automatically saved as your profile |
| 15:38.48 | Cryect | you mean have multiple profiles for the same player? |
| 15:38.48 | Antiarc|Work | Despite an extensive screening and thorough analyzation of the videos submitted on behalf of YouTube and CNN alike, the image still made it under the radar and into tonight’s debate. |
| 15:38.55 | Antiarc|Work | The incident in question came during a question about our nation’s healthcare system. The user who submitted the video was speaking innocuously into the camera when the image of “goatse” was flashed for the briefest moment in 1/24th of a second, ranging just above the framerate treshhold with which television broadcasts. |
| 15:38.57 | Antiarc|Work | On CNN. |
| 15:39.13 | Mecha | yeah, but I mean, if I wanted to save 1 profile for 10man raid and 1 for 25man raids. i.e with Pitbull |
| 15:39.16 | pb_ee1 | Cryect: please note that with only two members in the raid having recount yesterday, we had a very precise gathering of damage/healing in The Eye. i compared a few times with SW Stats and numbers were very similar, often the same |
| 15:39.36 | Cryect | sometimes it behave well |
| 15:39.43 | Cryect | its fights with lots of AOE that it was having issues with |
| 15:40.23 | Cryect | it was basically overfilling the rate at which acecomm sends messages |
| 15:40.32 | pb_ee1 | well at least it means that it's not completely bad coded :P |
| 15:40.52 | pb_ee1 | argh :( |
| 15:40.57 | Matrix110 | btw can it track Lifebloom PoM? |
| 15:41.12 | Matrix110 | lots of druid/priest whine about it:P |
| 15:41.16 | Cryect | No (if you mean attributed to who casted it) |
| 15:41.24 | Matrix110 | damn |
| 15:41.33 | Matrix110 | that wouldve been a reason to get atleast our healers to switch |
| 15:41.40 | Cryect | Lifebloom I prolly can get to work later though |
| 15:41.56 | Cryect | because we can say well this person's lifebloom has been ticking for this long at this amount |
| 15:42.11 | Cryect | Prayer of Mending I don't even know who's prayer of mending landed |
| 15:42.15 | Matrix110 | I dont really care about it i just need a reason for raidmembers to switch:P |
| 15:42.24 | Cryect | Curious |
| 15:42.42 | Cryect | can the healer with prayer of mending see the duration of the scond jump of prayer of mending |
| 15:42.56 | Cryect | that would be a way for that player at least to be able to figure it out |
| 15:43.02 | Matrix110 | i dont know |
| 15:43.28 | Cryect | not sure if they are considered the owner or if someone else its |
| 15:43.51 | Matrix110 | in BGs its accounted to the person it ticks on aswell |
| 15:44.03 | Matrix110 | so even Blizzard doesnt detect it correct |
| 15:44.08 | Matrix110 | (pet damage works though) |
| 15:44.58 | cryogen | Cryect: no, you cant |
| 15:45.08 | cryogen | or, er wait |
| 15:45.10 | cryogen | yes you can |
| 15:45.37 | cryogen | yeah, now that i think about it, i watch for it ticking down on party members |
| 15:45.37 | Cryect | so the priest who casts the intial POM sees the time left on the buff on the player with the scond jump? |
| 15:45.41 | Cryect | k cool |
| 15:45.46 | Cryect | that would be the way to figure it out then |
| 15:45.54 | Sirow | Cryect: I'm not definitly shure, but I think i can also see the remaining time after mending switched the target |
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| 15:51.50 | Ironhand | can someone tell me how to disable the nameplate over my own character in ArcHUD? |
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| 16:00.28 | Uhuru | someone know how to show pets in raid mode with aguf ? |
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| 16:11.53 | Srosh | Cryect, the problem with PoM is however that it can only be once on any one target, so if someone got a PoM on him and another priests casts another one on him PoM gets overwritten. |
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| 16:15.15 | Amadeo | Which Paladin race is generally considered best? |
| 16:15.34 | Matrix110 | dorf |
| 16:15.36 | jme | blood elf! |
| 16:15.40 | pb_ee1 | wow what happened? I've poste my roster 10mn ago on the official website and already 8 downloads oO |
| 16:16.09 | pb_ee1 | s/poste/posted/ |
| 16:16.19 | Amadeo | I was thinking Dwarf or Draenei |
| 16:16.25 | Amadeo | but I wanna go Horde :( |
| 16:16.38 | Antiarc|Work | Dwarves get Stoneform, Draenei get +1% spell it. |
| 16:16.42 | Matrix110 | Horde doesnt really give you much choices |
| 16:16.50 | Amadeo | Antiarc: And GoTN! |
| 16:17.01 | jme | yeah, we get mana tap |
| 16:17.02 | Amadeo | Matrix110: Yeah, haha |
| 16:17.02 | jme | whoopie |
| 16:17.48 | cryogen | mana tap is great |
| 16:17.53 | cryogen | free ranged pull for paladins! |
| 16:17.58 | jme | hah |
| 16:18.06 | cryogen | eternally useful against those damned voidwalkers in the outlands |
| 16:18.10 | cryogen | too |
| 16:18.14 | Amadeo | how much mana does it steal at highest rank? |
| 16:18.34 | jme | stacked 3 times i think it's around 300... but i forget |
| 16:18.35 | cryogen | mana tap isnt so much useful as arcane torrent is :) |
| 16:18.42 | cryogen | nah its more than that |
| 16:18.43 | jme | yeah when you use arcane torrent |
| 16:18.48 | jme | is it over 400? |
| 16:18.49 | cryogen | it's not ranked, it goes up per level |
| 16:18.57 | Antiarc|Work | Arcane Torrent is sexy in the arenas. |
| 16:18.59 | cryogen | its about 450 at level 65 iirc |
| 16:19.08 | Amadeo | per tap? |
| 16:19.11 | jme | no |
| 16:19.11 | cryogen | thats as high as i got my paladin |
| 16:19.13 | cryogen | no, 3/3 |
| 16:19.13 | jme | it stacks 3 times |
| 16:19.22 | jme | well, up to 3 times |
| 16:19.33 | Amadeo | so it doesn't actually steal any mana from the enemy? |
| 16:19.38 | cryogen | it does |
| 16:19.40 | jme | yes, it does |
| 16:19.48 | jme | but you don't get the mana until you use arcane torrent |
| 16:19.51 | Amadeo | yeah |
| 16:20.00 | cryogen | its useless as a mana steal/drain |
| 16:20.10 | Amadeo | Antiarc|Work: I ended up using it to uncover Rogues on my newb |
| 16:20.10 | jme | arcane torrent's silence is useful though |
| 16:20.13 | cryogen | hence why i say arcane torrent is useful whereas mana tap is not |
| 16:20.25 | Uhuru | someone know how to show pets in raid with aguf plz ? |
| 16:22.28 | CIA-22 | 03nebelmond * r44744 10PVPtimer/PVPtimer.lua: |
| 16:22.28 | CIA-22 | PVPtimer: |
| 16:22.28 | CIA-22 | - removed some debug messages |
| 16:22.29 | Matrix110 | Cryect if its easy to integrated could we get a option to hide the < > aswell? |
| 16:22.34 | Antiarc|Work | Uhuru: It's likely that nobody knows (or it's not possible) |
| 16:26.27 | CIA-22 | 03antiarc * r44745 10Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0.lua: Threat-1.0: Short-circuit threat updates without a target, with debug message if you need to look into it. |
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| 16:28.29 | Zorkmid | Hey all, does anyone use battle.net ?? |
| 16:28.48 | Uhuru | it sucks if not possible |
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| 16:31.19 | CIA-22 | 03arith * r44746 10AtlasLoot_WorldLoot/ (WorldRaidBosses.en.lua WorldRaidBosses.tw.lua): |
| 16:31.19 | CIA-22 | AtlasLoot_WorldLoot: |
| 16:31.19 | CIA-22 | - zhTW update, re-indent ENG file |
| 16:32.18 | Antiarc|Work | Hm. |
| 16:32.26 | Antiarc|Work | There might be a problem when I'm using 600mb of swap. |
| 16:32.32 | evl_ | ~seen Ominous |
| 16:32.35 | purl | ominous <n=Ominous@LSt-Amand-152-31-38-185.w82-127.abo.wanadoo.fr> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 3d 4h 53m 44s ago, saying: 'Radon: mod:RegisterEvent("event") function mod:event(a1, a2, a3, ...)'. |
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| 16:40.46 | CIA-22 | 03arith * r44747 10AtlasLoot_WorldLoot/WorldRaidBosses.tw.lua: |
| 16:40.46 | CIA-22 | AtlasLoot_WorldLoot: |
| 16:40.46 | CIA-22 | - zhtw update |
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| 16:41.35 | CIA-22 | 03arith * r44748 10AtlasLoot_SetsandPvP/ (4 files): |
| 16:41.35 | CIA-22 | AtlasLoot_SetsandPvP: |
| 16:41.35 | CIA-22 | - zhtw update |
| 16:42.10 | stavmar | Antiarc: ping? |
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| 16:43.07 | CIA-22 | AtlasLoot_RepFactions: |
| 16:43.07 | CIA-22 | - zhtw update |
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| 16:45.07 | stavmar | Antiarc|Work: ping? |
| 16:45.12 | Antiarc|Work | Pong |
| 16:45.22 | Ironhand | if I run both KTM and Omen, will there be problems/inaccuracies (data sent twice?) if I leave Omen's "Publish to KTM" setting on? |
| 16:45.24 | stavmar | hey man i had a question about that rogue macro you made |
| 16:45.35 | stavmar | yesterday |
| 16:45.51 | Antiarc|Work | No, Ironhand. Omen doesn't send any KTM data if it sees KTM is installed. |
| 16:46.03 | Ironhand | ok, thx Antiarc :-) |
| 16:46.08 | stavmar | if you have two different trinkets in 13 and 14, can the same macro be altered to go to the other slot if one of the trinkets is on cooldown? |
| 16:46.28 | Antiarc|Work | Yes, just add a "/cast [harm] 14" line. |
| 16:46.35 | Antiarc|Work | It'll cast the first it finds that isn't on CD |
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| 16:46.57 | stavmar | and that is it, way cool |
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| 16:47.59 | stavmar | so if you are a healer, and want to trigger a trinket prior to casting the heal, what changes need to be made, I am trying to get my guildmates to switch to using these trinket macros? |
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| 16:48.27 | [dRaCo] | /use 13 /cast heal |
| 16:49.55 | stavmar | [dRaCo]: thnxs and you too Antiarc |
| 16:51.22 | stavmar | one of the comments made by my guildies was "if a macro existed that you can define the "harm" HP % as? For instance, popping a trinket when the mob is at 20% health (normal monster wise) isn't very beneficial." |
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| 16:52.37 | mitch0 | identify kortefa |
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| 16:52.49 | mitch0 | doh ;) |
| 16:57.05 | Antiarc|Work | No, you can't respond conditionally to mob HP |
| 16:58.35 | stavmar | thx antiarc :( |
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| 17:01.53 | Droolio | what is the reason why i can't access a 'local' function from MyAddon's namespace when both functions are declared in the same .lua? |
| 17:02.05 | Droolio | i.e. |
| 17:02.06 | Droolio | local function Something() end |
| 17:02.06 | Droolio | function MyAddon:DoStuff() Something() end |
| 17:04.01 | Kemayo | Droolio: Is Something() declared above DoStuff()? |
| 17:04.02 | Mecdemort | is there an ace version of mobinfo? cuz I know theres a mobhealth one |
| 17:04.16 | Droolio | ahha, does it have to be? |
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| 17:04.35 | Kemayo | Droolio: Yup. |
| 17:04.50 | Droolio | hmm! |
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| 17:05.55 | Droolio | and it works. thanks you Kemaya :) |
| 17:06.08 | Droolio | bit puzzled as to why tho. didn't think it mattered with lua |
| 17:07.01 | Droolio | ah, i get it |
| 17:07.33 | Droolio | Something() is nil at the time of the MyAddon declaration |
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| 17:08.16 | winkiller | who killed the old prat icon? :( |
| 17:09.01 | Amadeo | You're the only killer in here! |
| 17:09.19 | Amadeo | oh wait, Killmore |
| 17:09.22 | Amadeo | two killers |
| 17:10.02 | Amadeo | don't trust 'em |
| 17:10.15 | sb | uhm Saroz |
| 17:10.21 | sb | i'm out of range for me? (sRF) |
| 17:10.44 | charon | Droolio: perhaps the following helps: function "declarations" are actually executed. if you keep that in mind it should work out |
| 17:11.06 | Saroz | sb, hrrrm |
| 17:11.47 | Droolio | charon: are MyAddon: function declarations different in any manner then? |
| 17:13.11 | nevcairiel | Saroz: i am having issues with that too right now |
| 17:13.22 | charon | i'd think so, but i'm not that familiar with lua OO semantics |
| 17:13.25 | sb | Saroz: mh - /rl fixed it |
| 17:14.08 | Saroz | nevcairiel, hrmmmmmmmmm |
| 17:15.10 | Droolio | charon: i have a MyAddon:GetArgs() definition at the bottom of my main .lua but its used above and has been working ok |
| 17:15.41 | Droolio | so i think it must be different somehow |
| 17:15.47 | charon | Droolio: well the point is (probably, somebody should verify) that at the time you _use_ your class, the definition has already been executed and thus the functions inside "defined" |
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| 17:17.53 | Droolio | hmm, i think i'll do some testing :) maybe with general global functions first |
| 17:18.18 | charon | Droolio: A function definition is an executable expression, whose value has type function. When Lua pre-compiles a chunk, all its function bodies are pre-compiled too. Then, whenever Lua executes the function definition, the function is instantiated (or closed). This function instance (or closure) is the final value of the expression. Different instances of the same function may refer to different external |
| 17:18.18 | charon | local variables and may have different environment tables. |
| 17:18.33 | charon | ah damn, sorry. anyway, reference is http://www.lua.org/manual/5.1/manual.html#2.5.9 |
| 17:18.39 | NeoTron | a friend of mine ordered something that is now out for delivery: July 24, 2007 06:37:00 AM DALLAS/FT. WORTH A/P TX US Out for delivery |
| 17:18.49 | NeoTron | problem is.. he lives in CA. That has to be the worst delivery route ever |
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| 17:19.36 | ulic | :) |
| 17:20.25 | nevcairiel | Saroz: offline players are always shown in range, thats pretty annoying =P |
| 17:20.54 | Saroz | yaya will revert |
| 17:21.01 | sag_ich_nicht | ... |
| 17:21.01 | sag_ich_nicht | wowinterface is now my favorite addon site. |
| 17:21.47 | NeoTron | sag_ich_nicht: not to be rude to curse or anything, but wowinterface became my favorite "generic" site as they implemented the previous incarnation of the site |
| 17:21.48 | Antiarc|Work | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z4vDClhnJjs |
| 17:22.26 | NeoTron | although this version does seem a bit better than the previous one |
| 17:22.43 | sag_ich_nicht | the new version of curse |
| 17:22.46 | sag_ich_nicht | is horrible |
| 17:22.49 | sag_ich_nicht | compared to v3 |
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| 17:23.30 | Droolio | thanks charon: i think i understand now |
| 17:23.46 | Hjalte | I don't like the looks of the new Curse addons website. But for the three or so addons that I can only get from there, I don't really care... |
| 17:23.46 | Antiarc|Work | I like v4 more then v3, myself. |
| 17:24.26 | NeoTron | It's much more obvious how to find addons at least |
| 17:24.32 | NeoTron | the search before was hell incarnated |
| 17:24.32 | sag_ich_nicht | Antiarc have you checked out addon sites yet? |
| 17:24.45 | sag_ich_nicht | the comments area is now horrible |
| 17:24.48 | NeoTron | if you start at http://wow.curse.com/downloads/ you minimize clicks |
| 17:24.54 | Antiarc|Work | Yes, I don't like the comments area |
| 17:24.59 | Antiarc|Work | But other than that, I like it. |
| 17:25.22 | sag_ich_nicht | the news section is also horrible |
| 17:25.24 | NeoTron | can't say I really like the color scheme. |
| 17:25.27 | sag_ich_nicht | i hate having JUST headlines |
| 17:25.30 | sag_ich_nicht | and nothing else |
| 17:25.30 | ckknight | vhaarr: I don't get your bigwigs commit: AceEvent-2.0 is timebombed to remove the autogenerated IDs. |
| 17:25.37 | sag_ich_nicht | if i want that, i can use a damn friggin RSS feed |
| 17:25.40 | NeoTron | but all I truly need from an addon site is ability to downlod an addon |
| 17:26.04 | Uhuru | ckknight do you know how to show pets in raid with aguf if possible plz ? |
| 17:26.06 | sag_ich_nicht | well, wowfix is better than most sites for wow news anyway |
| 17:26.06 | sag_ich_nicht | >.> |
| 17:26.12 | ckknight | Uhuru: no |
| 17:26.19 | Uhuru | grumpf |
| 17:26.26 | NeoTron | and from thagt PoV, it works.. but wowinterface is still better to me (being color blind and having some eye issues, WI is easier on my eyes) |
| 17:26.42 | Hjalte | Uhuru, ckknight has his own unitframe addon called Pitbull. I am sure he can tell you how to make pets appear using that addon. |
| 17:27.12 | Arrowmaster | most people in here would tell you not to enable raid frames in pitbull though |
| 17:27.18 | sag_ich_nicht | NeoTron: i guess you have a colorblind addon running for WoW? :) |
| 17:28.22 | charon | Arrowmaster: how so (apart from the hide/show UI bug)? what alternative do you recommend? |
| 17:28.37 | sag_ich_nicht | RDX raidframes are superior |
| 17:28.54 | Arrowmaster | if you want pets in your raid frames i really dont know |
| 17:29.03 | NeoTron | sag_ich_nicht: I did |
| 17:29.10 | charon | Arrowmaster: no pets, just in general |
| 17:29.14 | NeoTron | but as I don't play a combat point char anymore, I don't really need it |
| 17:29.19 | Arrowmaster | charon: grid |
| 17:29.19 | NeoTron | combo point even |
| 17:29.32 | NeoTron | that's the one thing I really had issues with - seeing highlighted combo points |
| 17:29.38 | Saroz | dev.wowace.com is my rav. addon site |
| 17:30.25 | sb | mhhmm Antiarc, 1 person not shown in threat :/ |
| 17:30.39 | sb | could it be some version-stuff? (using old threat version somewhere) |
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| 17:31.27 | kergoth | "haha, you asked for a direct non hazy answer from a blue. You must be new here. Welcome to the forums, here is a gift basket, it contains a notepad and pencil to write down your carefully written questions and a magic eightball with which to shake and recieve the corresponding answer. Have a nice day." |
| 17:31.31 | vhaarr | ckknight: it's not timebombed? |
| 17:31.33 | Uhuru | Hjalte i tried Pitbull i don't like it |
| 17:31.47 | Hjalte | Uhuru, but you like ag_uf? Hmm.. |
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| 17:31.57 | Uhuru | aguf is more simple |
| 17:32.15 | Uhuru | and i prefer the layout of aguf |
| 17:32.45 | Antiarc|Work | sb: It can be, yes, or it can be that they have an old version of Threat that's breaking the library upgrade process |
| 17:32.51 | Antiarc|Work | Have them run a full WAU update and see if that fixes it |
| 17:33.38 | Hjalte | Uhuru, well, they're both using the same default layout, are they not? |
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| 17:35.50 | Elkano | hiho |
| 17:35.53 | sag_ich_nicht | NeoTron: BEHOLD, for the beam colors of netherspite are being changed for you |
| 17:35.56 | sag_ich_nicht | http://forums.wow-europe.com/thread.html?topicId=304221858&sid=1 |
| 17:36.21 | Elkano | ckknight, parrot shows wrong values if I stack Lifebloom two or three times on myself |
| 17:36.23 | charon | Arrowmaster: hmm. the sheer density of information scares me. i'll try during today's kara. if you have tips to share, please /msg ;) |
| 17:37.10 | sb | Antiarc|Work: yup... working on that |
| 17:37.23 | Arrowmaster | charon: try setting it up before a raid and go through the menus, you can completely customize it and all the little information displays |
| 17:40.44 | Fisker- | zul'aman patch = lolwut |
| 17:41.57 | Antiarc|Work | 2.3 likely |
| 17:42.22 | Fisker- | i know |
| 17:42.33 | Antiarc|Work | So, funny story |
| 17:42.43 | Fisker- | but changing the colour = 1 big content patch = lolwut |
| 17:42.57 | Antiarc|Work | I found out that mysql was using over 60% of my server's RAM, which was putting me 600mb into swap. |
| 17:43.08 | Antiarc|Work | Keybuffer adjustment = load average going from 5.5 to 0.1 |
| 17:44.30 | ckknight | Elkano: values? |
| 17:44.39 | ckknight | vhaarr: I added it on purpose |
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| 17:48.03 | Elkano | 39/78/117 are correct, values like 39/156/195/234 are shown |
| 17:48.07 | ckknight | hey Demetrious |
| 17:48.14 | Demetrious | Hi there! |
| 17:48.28 | Demetrious | THank you for pointing me to the rigt place, ckknight. |
| 17:48.37 | ckknight | yep |
| 17:48.42 | ckknight | so what's the issue? |
| 17:49.12 | Demetrious | I have a Cartographer question. If I hoover over the cartographer button on the minimap, it will magnify the map. How to eliminate that behaviour? |
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| 17:49.33 | Elkano | so the first stack shows correct values, the 2nd may show correct but in most cases shows wrong |
| 17:50.30 | vhaarr | ckknight: added what? |
| 17:50.39 | ckknight | the currentEventUID |
| 17:50.55 | vhaarr | that's not related |
| 17:51.00 | ckknight | Demetrious: that seems kinda funky, never heard of that before |
| 17:51.04 | ckknight | Demetrious: and I didn't add it |
| 17:51.12 | ckknight | vhaarr: um, alright then |
| 17:51.12 | vhaarr | I'm a bit busy, but I'm confused as to what you're confused about, so I'll ping you later |
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| 17:52.00 | ckknight | Tornhoof: I wish I was sponsored by Intel |
| 17:52.08 | Demetrious | I have the whole Cartographer "suite" running, meaning the main, and associated addons for it, grabbed from http://files.wowace.com/ |
| 17:52.11 | Silviu- | Heh me too :)) |
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| 17:53.15 | mitch0 | doesn't aceconsole call the supplied get/set methods for the options_table? |
| 17:53.32 | Demetrious | So, it might be another addon that take advantage of Cartographer, but not Cartographer itself, I guess. Hmmm.... |
| 17:54.17 | mitch0 | like, /rangedisplayl someToggle seems to toggle the setting according to aceconsole, but the gui config shows the original setting, and the original setting is in effect |
| 17:54.26 | mitch0 | I'm probably missing something very basic here |
| 17:56.10 | Demetrious | Found the culprid!! Cartographer_Hotspot. |
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| 18:07.27 | ckknight | vhaarr: oh, I know what you're talking about. nevermind me. |
| 18:07.48 | vhaarr | okay |
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| 18:10.57 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r44754 10Parrot/Data/CombatEvents.lua: Parrot_CombatEvents - no longer color the damage amount of pet melee, since it'll always be white, which looks like player's damage. |
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| 18:11.23 | Bam__ | ckknight: pingeling |
| 18:11.30 | ckknight | pongelong |
| 18:11.42 | Bam__ | tried PitBull on PTR yet? |
| 18:11.49 | ckknight | not really |
| 18:11.52 | ckknight | any issues? |
| 18:12.20 | Bam__ | there is a small bug with tooltips... you can change line 3850 to UnitFrame_OnEnter(this) |
| 18:12.38 | Bam__ | I think that will work even on live server |
| 18:13.59 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r44755 10PitBull/PitBull.lua: PitBull - fix tooltips on PTR. |
| 18:14.06 | Bam__ | :P |
| 18:14.28 | Bam__ | that's trust! :D |
| 18:15.06 | Dynom | The adds in WAU are a tad bit anoying |
| 18:15.11 | Dynom | ad's |
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| 18:16.42 | Demetrious | Dynom: I barely notced them. |
| 18:16.54 | Demetrious | notced = noticed |
| 18:17.01 | NimbleRabit | there's adds? |
| 18:17.06 | Demetrious | There. |
| 18:17.13 | Demetrious | Thank you NimbleRabit. |
| 18:18.04 | ckknight | Bam__: you don't have a motivation to lie |
| 18:18.16 | Bam__ | hehe |
| 18:18.27 | Bam__ | no but I could be wrong! |
| 18:19.04 | Bam__ | I remember one time... I was wrong... but I got over it :D |
| 18:19.20 | Demetrious | ckknight: I wish my wife thought the way you do. |
| 18:20.07 | ckknight | hehe |
| 18:20.45 | Bam__ | she lies without motivation or she has motivations to lie? |
| 18:21.05 | Demetrious | No, she thinks I have motivations to lie. |
| 18:21.11 | Bam__ | ohh |
| 18:21.39 | Bam__ | well, don't we all? Sometimes... :P |
| 18:21.49 | Demetrious | Indeed ;-) |
| 18:22.05 | kergoth | not wanting to get your ass kicked by telling her she doesnt look good with a new haircut is sufficient motivation |
| 18:22.31 | Bam__ | indeed.. although it doesn't help to lie either :( |
| 18:22.54 | Demetrious | kergoth: A$$ kicked would be the least of my worries. She is asian, she would chop me into pieces and make a soup with me. |
| 18:24.06 | Bam__ | grrr... who at Blizzard thought it was a great idea not to give mages portals on PTR.... :/ |
| 18:24.46 | Kaydeethree | same reason a lot of premades are broken |
| 18:25.02 | Kaydeethree | I'm just glad I copied over my real character before the copy servers went down the tubes |
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| 18:25.32 | Bam__ | oh ok... know of anthing else that's broken about mages? |
| 18:25.53 | Kaydeethree | not afaik, I've only got my real character on the ptr, not even bothering with premades |
| 18:29.47 | Kirkburn | Mikk, poke |
| 18:30.24 | Bam__ | lol... Blizzard's feedback addon is using an insane amount of memory |
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| 18:31.18 | Knaledge | @kemayo: sup :) |
| 18:31.43 | Kirkburn | ckknight, you have a FuBar wikipedia page >< |
| 18:31.51 | ckknight | yep. |
| 18:31.53 | ckknight | sure do |
| 18:31.57 | Kirkburn | Since jan, wow |
| 18:32.10 | Kirkburn | And yet ... WoWWiki doesn't :D |
| 18:32.43 | ckknight | guess no one took the effort |
| 18:35.01 | Amadeo | "ckknight, brought to you by Intel" |
| 18:35.54 | charon | Arrowmaster: what is the 25man+tanks layout supposed to do? we currently have oRa MTs set, and pitbull does display them and their targets, but grid just has the 10 raid members |
| 18:37.40 | charon | other than that it's very nice and i'll probably keep it, if mostly for the saved screen estate |
| 18:38.00 | Antiarc|Work | http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a79/MNMadMan1/117471445228.jpg |
| 18:38.02 | Arrowmaster | not sure |
| 18:39.27 | Amadeo | FuBar_BattlegroundFu-2.0.\BattlegroundFu.lua:31: Cannot find a library instance of Glory-2.0. |
| 18:39.33 | Amadeo | I guess WAU isn't getting it for me? |
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| 18:46.30 | CIA-22 | 03jerry * r44756 10Talented/ (locale-enUS.lua locale-zhCN.lua): Talented: somehow the color was wrong for theses locales. |
| 18:49.33 | charon | Arrowmaster: are you the local grid expert? i have some more questions but i don't want to bother you |
| 18:52.15 | mitch0 | hm. I pass the sames options table to waterfall, dewdrop and AceConsole:RegisterChatCommand. Waterfall and Dewdrop work OK with it, but aceconsole seems to be fiddling with a completely different talble (or db) somehow. how could that be? |
| 18:54.28 | Amadeo | Who else plays Paladins in here? |
| 18:54.59 | ckknight | Amadeo: me |
| 18:55.06 | Amadeo | Oh yeah, that's right |
| 18:55.09 | Amadeo | What level are you up to now days? |
| 18:55.15 | ckknight | 41 |
| 18:55.24 | Amadeo | not bad, still like it? |
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| 18:55.40 | cryogen | hmm |
| 18:56.07 | cryogen | i assume parrot can be told not to show VE heals, but anyone care to quickly tell me how? :) |
| 18:56.10 | ckknight | Amadeo: yea, but don't play too much |
| 18:56.26 | ckknight | cryogen: filter on the amount or add a suppression |
| 18:57.15 | Amadeo | ckknight: yeah, I remember! |
| 18:57.20 | cryogen | lets try that |
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| 19:06.45 | *** topic/#wowace is http://www.wowace.com | http://files.wowace.com/ | http://ace.pastey.net | http://www.lua.org | http://wowace.com/wiki/Optimization | WAU2 beta started http://www.wowace.com/wau2/ | Sites back up and the restoration has began |
| 19:07.26 | charon | ah, pity. |
| 19:07.38 | cryogen | ckknight: ah! its after spellname shortening, got it now, thanks. |
| 19:07.42 | charon | does anyone else consider himself a grid expert ;) |
| 19:07.59 | charon | e.g. i'd like to know if i can merge MotW and GotW into one indicator that only shows if the target has neither |
| 19:08.10 | cryogen | charon: ! if you figure that out let me kno |
| 19:08.10 | cryogen | w |
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| 19:14.46 | Amadeo | whoa |
| 19:14.54 | Amadeo | Blizzard added a Mac feature to record in game video? |
| 19:14.56 | Amadeo | that's awesome |
| 19:15.03 | Amadeo | Well, on PTR |
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| 19:17.08 | Amadeo | wow, huge PvP changes too |
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| 19:18.24 | Hjalte | "We are aware that some pre-made characters are missing abilities, or have abilities that they should not. We do not intend to make changes to the pre-made characters at this time in the test phase." - Anyone experienced something fun? |
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| 19:21.49 | Kaydeethree | premade mages don't have portals |
| 19:22.08 | Kaydeethree | that and everyone spawns in front of zul'aman, flagged pvp from what I've been hearing |
| 19:22.40 | Amadeo | that sounds hot |
| 19:23.42 | Arrowmaster | wtf the character copy status page doesnt have my premade listed anymore |
| 19:24.08 | durcyn | restart it. they probably nuked the queue after they realized that asshats were going in and trying to copy ten premades at once |
| 19:24.30 | Arrowmaster | but my dwarf rogue was in the queue for like a week |
| 19:24.53 | cryogen | does anyone know how to do that with grid? |
| 19:25.14 | Amadeo | character copy is frozen right now |
| 19:25.25 | Arrowmaster | did they fix the bug with dwarf rogues being unkillable? |
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| 19:31.24 | mitch0 | gah |
| 19:31.56 | mitch0 | found the first problem... |
| 19:32.31 | mitch0 | aceconsole is case insensiteve, so if I have an enemyOnly switch, I can set it with enemyonly too, but my set() method is not case insensitive... |
| 19:32.31 | Arrowmaster | oh hey my dwarf rogue did get made, hmm from the characer select screen it looks like hes wearing the scryer tabard |
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| 19:33.11 | mitch0 | should I just name my db fields in all lower an tolower() everything in my set()? |
| 19:33.59 | mitch0 | or is it possible to turn off the case-insensitivity in aceconsole? |
| 19:35.55 | ckknight | yea, :lower() it |
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| 19:38.00 | Paard | Hi, does anyone know the workings of Quartz? |
| 19:38.10 | deltron | ~asktoask |
| 19:38.11 | purl | This is IRC. Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question and if someone's around, they'll be glad to help. |
| 19:38.20 | Paard | ah |
| 19:38.34 | deltron | more than likely |
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| 19:39.25 | _Saint-N | i wouldnt say "glad" |
| 19:39.45 | Paard | What is the quartz player castbar called if I want to "connect" a texture to it? I can do it with eCastingBar, but can't get my head around quartz |
| 19:40.16 | Paard | Using Discord Art btw |
| 19:40.18 | charon | cryogen: try GridStatusMissingBuffs (separate addon), works for me. note that it comes with default groups but none of them are [ ] Enabled |
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| 19:42.34 | Speeddymon | nevcairiel: you here? |
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| 19:50.12 | cryogen | charon: nice ty |
| 19:50.51 | durcyn | Paard: mouse over it and run /script GetMouseFocus() |
| 19:51.03 | durcyn | or was it print, hrm |
| 19:51.25 | ckknight | <PROTECTED> |
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| 19:53.41 | Arrowmaster | blizzard is so fail with their premade characters, no gruul trinket for the rogues |
| 19:53.54 | Arrowmaster | yet they give the zg trinket |
| 19:53.59 | Paard | Thanks, that sure is alot of information :D |
| 19:54.12 | Saint-N | anyone here an exchange admin? |
| 19:55.06 | durcyn | i've spent the past ten years doing everything in my power to avoid being an exchange admin, and have thus far been fortunate enough to succeed. what's your problem, though? |
| 19:55.15 | Paard | That was wierd. When using the /print GetMouseFocus():GetName() on quartz player castbar I get info on the worldframe. |
| 19:55.52 | Arrowmaster | try unlocking it |
| 19:56.41 | Paard | I just did, then I get QuartzCastBar, but I can't use it as a parent for the texture. |
| 19:57.23 | Amadeo | hah, WoW hit 9 million subscribers |
| 19:57.32 | Arrowmaster | rofl they give premade rogues 350 lockpicking but dont give them poison skill |
| 19:57.54 | Arrowmaster | cant even use blind |
| 19:58.01 | Kalman| | Arrowmaster: For a while, dwarf rogues on test were invulnerable. Poison skill is minor in comparison. :p |
| 19:58.14 | Amadeo | Dwarves should be invulnerable anyway |
| 19:58.42 | durcyn | rogues should be removed from the game. |
| 19:59.03 | durcyn | and undead rogues wearing maces should have their accounts cancelled |
| 19:59.27 | Kalman| | Mace stuns are a bit much at this point. :/ |
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| 19:59.36 | yacoob | ...and their families raped? |
| 19:59.44 | Kalman| | By rabid wombats. |
| 19:59.57 | Cryect | mace stuns need internal cooldowns |
| 20:00.05 | Cryect | shouldn't be able to be back to back |
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| 20:00.20 | Arrowmaster | Kalman|: yeah i think they fixed that, i logged on my dwarf rogue premade and got ganked |
| 20:00.23 | Kalman| | Nothing more fun than a Stormherald proc into a mace stun proc into a Stormherald proc. :/ |
| 20:00.35 | Cryect | also stormherald needs to not proc on whirlwind |
| 20:00.44 | Kalman| | Arrowmaster: I said *were*, not *are*. :p |
| 20:01.00 | Cryect | warrior with stormherald stun locks better than rogues! |
| 20:01.18 | Cryect | and all while being able to put out damage and stun random other 3 players as well |
| 20:01.40 | Fin | winkiller: I killed the old prat icon |
| 20:01.49 | winkiller | :/ |
| 20:01.56 | winkiller | was much prettier |
| 20:02.07 | Diao | mace rogue with blade flurry |
| 20:02.13 | Fin | the old prat icon was also mine |
| 20:03.02 | jme | "I am estimating that we are 1 to 2 weeks away from giving Gruul's Lair a shot" <- my guildmaster |
| 20:03.05 | jme | wooooooot |
| 20:03.40 | Cryect | jme curious whats your guild? |
| 20:04.06 | Cryect | not like I prolly know it but maybe I've seen the tag :-p |
| 20:05.02 | Arrowmaster | ckknight: volumefu is broken on ptr although im not sure ive if updated it recently |
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| 20:05.37 | ckknight | not mine |
| 20:05.58 | Arrowmaster | damnit |
| 20:06.30 | jme | Cryect: BBB |
| 20:07.22 | jme | Cryect: http://tinyurl.com/38f4sw |
| 20:07.44 | Cryect | Ah that guild! |
| 20:07.48 | jme | lol |
| 20:07.57 | Cryect | not that I know anything about it |
| 20:08.00 | Cryect | but I recognize the name |
| 20:08.06 | jme | one of the original horde guilds on SR, still around |
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| 20:16.08 | Kaelten|Work | hows it going |
| 20:17.02 | jme | slow.. wtb 2 hours |
| 20:17.26 | Kaelten|Work | lol |
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| 20:22.15 | Arrowmaster | heh bug in bugsack |
| 20:22.54 | jme | did it catch its own bug? |
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| 20:24.36 | mitch0 | re |
| 20:25.02 | Arrowmaster | 14[2007/07/24 16:17:47-6-x1]0: 7FuBar_VolumeFu8-2.0.44733\7VolumeFu.lua0:91640: Couldn12't find CVar named '0MasterVolume12' |
| 20:25.07 | Arrowmaster | sorry for annoying colors |
| 20:25.19 | Arrowmaster | but best way to show the bug in bugsack |
| 20:25.36 | Diao | @_@ |
| 20:25.48 | Diao | it shows the bugs ingame? |
| 20:26.19 | Arrowmaster | bugsack? yeah |
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| 20:29.02 | Arrowmaster | hmm actually a few things were miscolored in that bugsack msg, so i took a screenshot of it |
| 20:29.07 | Speeddymon | did anyone in here right now experience the issue with Bartender3 that caused nev to have to remove the Re-use Blizzard Buttons option? |
| 20:29.33 | Speeddymon | If so, I'd like to get some info from you so I can try to find the problem |
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| 20:30.12 | Speeddymon | damn.. oh well |
| 20:30.56 | CIA-22 | 03cryect * r44757 10Recount/ (GUI_Main.lua Recount.lua Recount_Modes.lua): |
| 20:30.56 | CIA-22 | Recount - Fixes threat for yourself |
| 20:30.56 | CIA-22 | - Threat now won't get reset to 0 for whats shown (lets you see where you used to be after combat and alt click for the graph for threat comparison) |
| 20:31.12 | jme | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tR2n4XhRQ58 <- how horde wins AV |
| 20:31.44 | Cryect | Premade AV's yeah are like the only way |
| 20:31.53 | Cryect | only because horde is constantly queuing out :-p |
| 20:32.44 | Cryect | Horde actually tries on AV weekend :'( |
| 20:33.04 | Cryect | Actually harder to get honor during av weekends |
| 20:33.11 | Cryect | without a group that is |
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| 20:38.38 | mitch0 | DrDamage.lua:1074: attempt to compare number with nil |
| 20:38.55 | mitch0 | anyone care to fix that? :) |
| 20:39.34 | jme | fear my 15 defense |
| 20:39.35 | jme | err |
| 20:39.38 | jme | resilience |
| 20:40.27 | jme | do they have any sort of gear matching system for the arenas yet? |
| 20:40.47 | Fisker- | /click ActionButton9 |
| 20:40.48 | Fisker- | /click ActionButton8 |
| 20:40.52 | Fisker- | i was bad enough dude to do that |
| 20:41.13 | Diao | jme: arenas don't need gear matching, they have level matching |
| 20:41.39 | jme | Diao: yeah, i just thought they wouldn't put someone with 15 resilience up against a team with 300 resilience, or something |
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| 20:41.51 | pb_ee1 | Heya |
| 20:42.01 | pb_ee1 | Is there a Ace'd addon that could replace Incubator? |
| 20:42.20 | pb_ee1 | it bugs me to loose my timers each time i get disc |
| 20:42.30 | jme | incubator IS ace |
| 20:42.31 | Diao | incubator is ace |
| 20:42.32 | Diao | lol |
| 20:42.36 | mitch0 | okay, who can help me with an AceConsole/AceDB issue? (actually, 2) |
| 20:43.19 | pb_ee1 | jme/diao: i know, but i'd like to find another one ; |
| 20:43.21 | pb_ee1 | ;)* |
| 20:44.53 | jme | http://www.wowhead.com/?item=18230 |
| 20:44.56 | mitch0 | first one is: aceconsole says my addon is suspended ( standby[Suspended]), but it's actually not, second is it screws casing when I try to set an option, that is, if the option's name is someOption, it'll happily call my set method with someoption (with a lowercase 'o') |
| 20:45.12 | mitch0 | probably I'm doing something wrong, but I don't know what :( |
| 20:45.33 | Speeddymon | mitch0, privmsg about drdamage issue |
| 20:45.39 | Saint-N | did you remember to load sk1llz.lua ? |
| 20:45.50 | Saint-N | ;) |
| 20:47.46 | Fisker- | pb_ee1 ACE2 OR GTFO!1 |
| 20:48.09 | pb_ee1 | lol Fisker- |
| 20:48.19 | pb_ee1 | hey, do you have any idea? |
| 20:48.24 | Fisker- | no |
| 20:48.27 | [dRaCo] | fisker, is there any time of the day when you are NOT trolling? |
| 20:48.28 | pb_ee1 | grrr |
| 20:48.29 | Fisker- | but the guy wants to make it save |
| 20:48.38 | Fisker- | nop |
| 20:48.39 | Fisker- | e |
| 20:48.43 | Fisker- | infact i'm trolling the realms |
| 20:48.47 | Fisker- | /click ActionButton9 |
| 20:48.48 | Fisker- | /click ActionButton8 |
| 20:48.57 | Fisker- | Button9 contains a pet, button 8 contains the macro |
| 20:48.58 | Fisker- | :D |
| 20:48.59 | pb_ee1 | Fisker- is a troll. he's horde. horde is cool. trolls are cool. Fisker- is cool. |
| 20:49.03 | pb_ee1 | something else? |
| 20:49.13 | [dRaCo] | he's not a troll, he's trolling. |
| 20:49.15 | jme | all horde are not trolls ;) |
| 20:49.18 | pb_ee1 | rofl |
| 20:49.20 | [dRaCo] | biiiiiiig difference. |
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| 20:49.35 | Saint-N | We are Tauren of Horde, you will be assimoolated. |
| 20:49.44 | jme | hah |
| 20:50.05 | Hjalte | Mechanar is the only heroic instance giving 5 badges in a run, right? |
| 20:50.06 | jme | well, the blood elves actually say that.. i forgot how the npc emote goes |
| 20:50.21 | [dRaCo] | Hjalte: yes. |
| 20:50.42 | jme | Death to those who oppose us |
| 20:50.44 | jme | or something |
| 20:51.39 | Saint-N | http://www.myndflame.com/index.php?categoryid=3&p803_sectionid=11 go watch episode 1 and 2 |
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| 20:54.28 | sb | yay - and hydross down :o |
| 20:54.36 | mitch0 | AH! I understand now how Quartz works and my addon doesn't... quartz specifies a passValue for each option |
| 20:54.41 | mitch0 | that's kinda lame |
| 20:54.50 | PProvost_ | Hjalte, I thought Botanica did too, but I may be mis-remembering. |
| 20:54.55 | mitch0 | why does AceConsole not call the set method with the correct casing? |
| 20:55.20 | [dRaCo] | oh, you're right... bota has 5 bosses, too |
| 20:55.22 | Hjalte | PProvost, seems you're right. It has 5 bosses at least |
| 20:56.01 | PProvost_ | Yeah, but Ramparts has three and only gives two badges (boo) |
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| 20:57.00 | Hjalte | I don't understand why they can't make the dragon boss give a badge... |
| 20:57.12 | Saint-N | wheres he gonna carry it? |
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| 20:57.18 | Bejitt | anyone else's Firefox acting weird when editing a page on the wiki? |
| 20:57.18 | Saint-N | in his pounch? |
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| 20:57.32 | PProvost_ | Slime drops Plate Helmets, a dragon can carry a badge. :) |
| 20:57.33 | Bejitt | i cant change tabs with my mouse o.O |
| 20:58.01 | Amadeo | A slime appears! |
| 20:58.14 | Morghus | Kirkburn: Know if there has been some more lore revealed through non-WoW sources pertaining to non-Outland things? ( asking you because you seem to know a bit :P ) |
| 20:58.28 | [dRaCo] | the dragon's got a rider... |
| 20:59.06 | Kirkburn | Morghus, about what? |
| 20:59.45 | Kirkburn | There's loads of novels, RPG books, etc |
| 21:00.45 | Oridan | gah |
| 21:01.13 | Oridan | why do i keep getting this message when i try to commit some changes: "your file or directory '.' is probably out-of-date" |
| 21:01.34 | cryogen | svn up? |
| 21:01.38 | Oridan | i just added another external to the properties |
| 21:01.55 | Antiarc|Work | svn up, then commit |
| 21:02.01 | Antiarc|Work | Something changed since your last commit |
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| 21:04.31 | CIA-22 | 03oridan * r44758 10ShoutReminder/ (. ShoutReminder.lua embeds.xml): |
| 21:04.31 | CIA-22 | ShoutReminder: |
| 21:04.31 | CIA-22 | - auto discovery of spell durations |
| 21:04.39 | Oridan | ^^ thx |
| 21:05.00 | Oridan | what kind of thing needs to change then, for it to break like that ? |
| 21:05.24 | Fisker- | anyone know some movies i should see? |
| 21:05.31 | *** join/#wowace Wixi (n=jasoncou@client-82-25-176-48.brnt.adsl.virgin.net) |
| 21:05.39 | [dRaCo] | depends. |
| 21:06.09 | Fisker- | i'm gonna kill you |
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| 21:06.16 | Hjalte | Brazil |
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| 21:07.15 | Morghus | Kirkburn: I'm thinking in general. I'm sort of reading any kind of lore I come across. Got any good sites? =) |
| 21:07.26 | Kirkburn | WoWWiki, of course :) |
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| 21:08.08 | Kirkburn | Most of the RPG books contain a fair bit of lore (e.g. the Horde Player's Guide, and Lands of Mystery) |
| 21:08.11 | Morghus | Beyond what I come across, I have no idea where to look for when wanting to read updated things |
| 21:08.20 | Morghus | In WoWWiki that is |
| 21:08.37 | Bejitt | find an article and read everything it links to :D |
| 21:08.39 | Morghus | ( I've been through 90% of the stuff regarding lore on WoWWiki :P ) |
| 21:09.01 | Kirkburn | It's hard to say with a wiki, everything gets new stuff all the time :P |
| 21:09.52 | mitch0 | time to nuke my savedvars I guess... |
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| 21:11.13 | stavmar | fieroivan: ping? |
| 21:11.24 | fieroivan | hey |
| 21:11.29 | stavmar | hello |
| 21:11.35 | Kirkburn | Morghus, recently the only new stuff has been Outland related, but some new books will be coming soon enough |
| 21:11.36 | Saint-N | yay new laptop is here |
| 21:12.02 | stavmar | so I am in my client with your files and no success on reproducing the yellow links on Manufac teh links are working just as they should however |
| 21:12.48 | fieroivan | Are you trying with skills you have in tsi |
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| 21:13.14 | Morghus | Kirkburn: Awesome! \o/ |
| 21:13.41 | Morghus | Kirkburn: I just recently did Uldaman again, and the whole Uldum question is bugging me again *laughs* |
| 21:13.49 | stavmar | fieroivan: my first attempt was using a bank toon with no tradeskills, now I am on my alchemist, same result, shift left click name on list and still just get the listing out of the mats instead of a link? |
| 21:14.17 | jme | anyone here play a survival hunter? |
| 21:14.27 | jme | as in deep survival |
| 21:14.43 | fieroivan | stavmar: give me a skill your trying and I'll double check that the enchatid is in there |
| 21:15.40 | fieroivan | also are the skills you know showing up white in the list |
| 21:17.05 | stavmar | fieroivan: none of the enchants are showing up as yellow links, several on the list are Greena nd the rest are yellow as my enchanter does not know them yet |
| 21:17.32 | stavmar | WHen i go to an alchemy recipie this toon knows the link does indeed show up yellow though |
| 21:18.06 | stavmar | well nvm, Adepts elixir only shows the white text with the information |
| 21:18.12 | stavmar | no link |
| 21:19.21 | stavmar | fieroivan: if the recipie is white on teh list, the yellow link seems to work :-) |
| 21:19.49 | fieroivan | only currently known skills(white in the list) will give a yellow link to prevent geting disconnected, adept's elixr got missed in the data |
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| 21:20.26 | stavmar | aah yes it is white on my list but no link will come of it |
| 21:21.08 | stavmar | well i guess i want to eb able to know on an alt that does not have the skill can see what the toon that has the skill requires to make the item. |
| 21:21.12 | fieroivan | think my wowhead program missed a handful of items in each trade clas |
| 21:21.14 | stavmar | be* |
| 21:21.27 | stavmar | fieroivan: it happens |
| 21:22.30 | fieroivan | I can make it so if it's known by an alt it yellow links, just have to see if any disconnects result |
| 21:22.49 | Saint-N | ya know im not quite sure why laptop people bother with a preloaded windows when it just takes like 30 mins to "update" to newwer stuff the first time you turn the damn thing on |
| 21:23.43 | stavmar | fieroivan: i dont remember any disconnects with the original TSI? |
| 21:25.11 | stavmar | I would actually like to be able to link any of the recipes as I can help others know what they need when they are looking for an enchant or tailoring pattern, of which I have no toons that do |
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| 21:26.06 | *** mode/#wowace [+v Shirik] by ChanServ |
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| 21:28.40 | mitch0 | alright, why isn't my AceDB case insensitive? |
| 21:30.37 | Shirik | I don't know anything about AceDB but keep in mind nothing in Lua is implicitly case insensitive |
| 21:31.05 | vhaarr | mitch0: why the hell would it be? |
| 21:31.15 | vhaarr | that doesn't make sense |
| 21:31.16 | Shirik | yey, I was on the right track |
| 21:31.27 | vhaarr | :p |
| 21:31.30 | Shirik | vhaarr's answer was mine at first, then I deleted it and put that instead cause I thought AceDB might do something different >< |
| 21:31.42 | vhaarr | troll more |
| 21:32.15 | fieroivan | stavmar: ok shift+click will yellow link if known by any alts, hopefully this is safe and shift+ctl+click will force a yellow link, ill get a new zip on the thread now |
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| 21:33.06 | stavmar | ok sounds good, shft ctrl click |
| 21:33.06 | mitch0 | vhaarr: it has all sorts of caseInsensitive_mt metatable settings |
| 21:33.12 | mitch0 | vhaarr: in AceDB |
| 21:33.26 | mitch0 | and aceconsole fscks it up if it's not case-insensitive :( |
| 21:33.53 | sig11 | Hi. Anyone happen to have a copy of Antiarc's armory scripts? |
| 21:34.14 | pb_ee1 | what do you advice atm: using !!standalonelibrairies or dependancies, as explained on the wau wiki page? |
| 21:35.29 | mitch0 | vhaarr: any idea making either my AceDB case-insensitive or AceConsole passing the options with correct case? |
| 21:35.33 | sig11 | I can't seem to reach the repository and had a brilliant idea. :) |
| 21:35.41 | Dustwhisper| | is there any raid/player spell-rotation registration tool? |
| 21:35.49 | Dustwhisper| | that will show a complete Casts over time graphical display |
| 21:35.57 | Dustwhisper| | showing what spell is cast when etc |
| 21:36.00 | Dustwhisper| | to analyze spellrotations |
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| 21:36.40 | [dRaCo] | recount is able to do that, afaik |
| 21:37.01 | Bejitt | sig11: get them from his svn |
| 21:37.03 | [dRaCo] | uses lots of memory, |
| 21:37.27 | Dustwhisper| | it doesnt show what spell is cast |
| 21:37.30 | Dustwhisper| | it shows a DPS graph |
| 21:37.33 | Dustwhisper| | but i cant see what spell is cast when |
| 21:37.36 | sig11 | Bejitt: the repository is down or unreachable for me. |
| 21:37.47 | Bejitt | oh so it is |
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| 21:38.31 | sig11 | I guess I'll just have to wait. :) |
| 21:38.53 | Dustwhisper| | i want to see exact spellrotations and i also want to see what spells are used at what % of the boss to check phasechanges etc and blahdibladhi =D |
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| 21:39.43 | fieroivan | stavmar: posted a zip to try |
| 21:40.05 | Mecdemort | I'm getting this whered problem of when I move a texture from like left, left to right, right the texture will stretch across the screen, anyone know what might cause this? |
| 21:40.41 | Bejitt | sig11: i'd toss you what i have, but i thrashed it making it work for php4 =x |
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| 21:41.50 | sig11 | hehe is it OO PHP? I've not messed with it before. I just thought I would check it out instead of starting from scratch with accessing the armory |
| 21:42.05 | Bejitt | it's php5, only for exceptions |
| 21:42.09 | sig11 | Ah |
| 21:42.37 | jme | php4's compatibility with php4 is... |
| 21:42.39 | Bejitt | that and some xml->object functionality |
| 21:42.39 | jme | err |
| 21:42.41 | jme | with php5 |
| 21:42.53 | jme | i can't think of what to say about it |
| 21:42.58 | Bejitt | those were the only things i had to change :/ |
| 21:43.41 | sig11 | I'd take that if you don't mind packaging it. |
| 21:44.35 | Bejitt | hm i could revert it |
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| 21:44.56 | sig11 | true |
| 21:45.13 | sig11 | if you tar it all up I can handle that. |
| 21:45.13 | Bejitt | sec |
| 21:46.33 | Bejitt | kk worked |
| 21:47.12 | yacoob | hmmm |
| 21:47.22 | yacoob | have you ever seen some sort of analysis of various types of players? |
| 21:47.50 | CIA-22 | 03evilelvis * r44759 10eePanels/ (core.lua localization.enUS.lua): eePanels: added lock toggling via icon, and level fix for parented panels |
| 21:47.55 | jme | "X tyep sucks" |
| 21:47.56 | jme | type |
| 21:48.07 | jme | <- needs to l2type |
| 21:48.13 | sig11 | would you like an frp or something to dump it on? |
| 21:48.27 | Bejitt | i got it covered |
| 21:48.48 | Bejitt | read pm ;D |
| 21:49.22 | sig11 | hm. I don't seem to have any. |
| 21:49.24 | sig11 | :) |
| 21:49.29 | Bejitt | bah |
| 21:49.35 | Bejitt | do you want the svn data in the zip? |
| 21:49.41 | sig11 | that'd be cool. |
| 21:49.49 | sig11 | Then I don't have to worry about breaking it |
| 21:50.02 | Bejitt | :D |
| 21:50.26 | sig11 | What is this +e mode on me? Is that some freenode nutjobbery? |
| 21:50.28 | ravagernl | I was wondering, does anyone know any Guild Recruitment /Application manager using PHP so people can fill that instead of making a forum topic? |
| 21:51.19 | Bejitt | sig11: http://www.insomnia-spirestone.com/armory.zip |
| 21:51.27 | sig11 | much appreciated, Bejitt. |
| 21:51.57 | Bejitt | np |
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| 21:52.15 | kaiden | Any authors of Buffalo 2 around? :) |
| 21:52.23 | Bejitt | bah it deleted my custom script |
| 21:52.32 | Bejitt | wait n/m it didnt |
| 21:52.41 | ravagernl | ~seen nimbal |
| 21:52.44 | purl | nimbal <n=chatzill@p5488EBB6.dip.t-dialin.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 37d 5h 59m 35s ago, saying: 'Hello everyone'. |
| 21:52.48 | Bejitt | guild_mark_rep.php -- shows people who can use Mark of the Illidari |
| 21:52.58 | ravagernl | ~buffalo2 |
| 21:53.03 | sig11 | wow that is some pretty clean code. |
| 21:53.13 | Bejitt | prolly wont work w/ the original tho |
| 21:53.24 | sig11 | I didn't expect anything of this quality. ) |
| 21:53.28 | Bejitt | lol |
| 21:53.40 | deltron | nice |
| 21:53.45 | Dustwhisper| | fast important question |
| 21:53.48 | Fisker- | purl, gtfo |
| 21:53.49 | purl | Sorry sir, I won't bother you anymore. |
| 21:53.57 | Dustwhisper| | how can i add something to a macro that prevents it from executing if the target has a nick i specify |
| 21:54.02 | Kaydeethree | can't |
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| 21:54.16 | sig11 | Better than a lot of the code I have to deal with at work |
| 21:54.23 | Kaydeethree | the only conditionals macros can check for are [help], [harm], [alive], [dead], [exists] |
| 21:54.34 | Dustwhisper| | you cant see if target=Nick? |
| 21:54.35 | Antiarc|Work | sig11: Sorry, I had a power surge this morning and my SVN server went down |
| 21:54.37 | Kaydeethree | no |
| 21:54.38 | Antiarc|Work | It'll be back up tonight :) |
| 21:54.43 | Antiarc|Work | (It sits under my desk at home) |
| 21:55.02 | stavmar_ | fieroivan: sorry i got Dc'd |
| 21:55.08 | Kaydeethree | Dustwhisper|, http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=96143900&sid=1 |
| 21:55.08 | Dustwhisper| | Antiarc would it be possible to add to omen "Create threatbar from name" ? |
| 21:55.20 | ravagernl | if you do /cast [target=Nick] Fireball it will try to target Nick |
| 21:55.36 | Kaydeethree | indeed. [target= is a command, not a comparison |
| 21:55.54 | Antiarc|Work | Dustwhisper|: Yes, eventually |
| 21:55.59 | stavmar_ | fieroivan: I updated with the latest zip and everything seemed to work great, shif and shift+ctrl functions both worked as intended and only white items display with yellow links |
| 21:56.03 | sig11 | Antiarc|Work: cool. Thanks to Bejitt I've got a copy. You don't know how happy I am to see this code is clean. hehe |
| 21:56.15 | Antiarc|Work | Heh, cool |
| 21:56.26 | Bejitt | WTB web.archive.org =(( |
| 21:56.37 | Amadeo | PTR copy is back up |
| 21:57.02 | fieroivan | stavmar: yellow links are working with unknown skills when shift+ctl is used though |
| 21:57.09 | sig11 | Out for food! Thanks again. |
| 21:57.26 | Bejitt | np :D |
| 21:57.38 | NeoTron | omen's threat warnings, does it warn for every target or just your target? |
| 21:57.45 | deltron | hmm that armory script looks neato |
| 21:57.50 | NeoTron | i.e when you AoE and have 3 tanks, does it warn if one is about to pull off? |
| 21:58.22 | NeoTron | hmm |
| 21:58.29 | NeoTron | but that doesn't work for AoE anyway... bummer |
| 21:58.48 | Antiarc|Work | Just your target |
| 21:59.05 | Saint-N | ya know what would be awesome? |
| 21:59.14 | Saint-N | if there was a threat thingy that worked as a client server style |
| 21:59.23 | Saint-N | ie the server would be the RL for example |
| 21:59.45 | Saint-N | and the only thing that the clients would see is the warnings about aggro and the top 5 names |
| 21:59.51 | Saint-N | all sent via the RL |
| 22:00.16 | Saint-N | which would eliminate the need for full fledged on most peoples as wella s config etc etc etc |
| 22:00.32 | Saint-N | plus with that you could also build in a trigger for boss mods |
| 22:00.35 | Saint-N | or something |
| 22:00.41 | yacoob | and put a whole lot of hell on RL :> |
| 22:00.44 | Saint-N | just stupid warnings of "get out now!" |
| 22:00.46 | Amadeo | hm, I just saw someone with a title of Challenger - what's that from? |
| 22:00.46 | yacoob | of stress, that is |
| 22:00.51 | Antiarc|Work | Arena, Amadeo |
| 22:00.56 | Amadeo | Season 1? |
| 22:00.59 | Antiarc|Work | Yes |
| 22:01.00 | yacoob | Amadeo, taking challenges, of course :> |
| 22:01.04 | Amadeo | haha |
| 22:01.06 | Amadeo | I see :) |
| 22:01.11 | Saint-N | yacoob: not really since it would automated and really hes calling it on vent as is |
| 22:01.28 | Saint-N | the addon it self wouldnt be any more stressful than omen is now |
| 22:01.30 | yacoob | Saint-N, I'm rather refering to the complexity of the addon over there and its cpu usage |
| 22:01.56 | Saint-N | it sends a bleep and that triggers the message |
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| 22:02.03 | Saint-N | syncy sorta |
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| 22:02.09 | Saint-N | shrug i think that would be great |
| 22:02.36 | stavmar | fieroivan: yes i updated my post to reflect that sorry for being unclear |
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| 22:07.33 | Amadeo | PvP should really change with the next patch |
| 22:07.42 | [dRaCo] | why? |
| 22:07.57 | Amadeo | all CC was reduced to 10 seconds for PvP |
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| 22:08.22 | Amadeo | well, at least the most notable ones...maybe not all |
| 22:08.24 | vhaarr | doesn't change anything |
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| 22:08.49 | Amadeo | why not? |
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| 22:09.42 | Amadeo | I think it's a good thing |
| 22:09.54 | Amadeo | Kinda frustrating to get Frost Trapped for 20 seconds 99% of the time, etc :P |
| 22:10.05 | Amadeo | or Freezing, whatever :) |
| 22:10.26 | [dRaCo] | shaman's aint got no cc :/ |
| 22:13.19 | dreamss | we got nerfshock |
| 22:13.21 | dreamss | wazaa |
| 22:13.55 | [dRaCo] | I want a stun... and my elementals in the arena |
| 22:14.08 | Antiarc|Work | Stoneclaw totem! :V |
| 22:14.15 | [dRaCo] | yeah. |
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| 22:14.27 | [dRaCo] | like anybody would even bother looking at it. |
| 22:14.56 | Amadeo | you have to trick Rogues with it |
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| 22:15.43 | CIA-22 | 03thexod * r44760 10ItemValue/ItemValue.lua: |
| 22:15.43 | CIA-22 | ItemValue: |
| 22:15.43 | CIA-22 | - Bestjewels now works without Hearthstone in the local cache |
| 22:15.43 | CIA-22 | - Fixed issue with multi-colored gems |
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| 22:19.06 | RogueShadow | SharedMedia can have sound effects included right? |
| 22:20.58 | RogueShadow | ya. sorry answered my own question. |
| 22:24.12 | ckknight_ | hey all, back for a bit |
| 22:24.33 | *** join/#wowace sylvanaar (n=sylvanaa@205-196-182-22.static.cmts1.phonoscope.net) |
| 22:24.44 | Amadeo | sup ckk |
| 22:25.04 | sylvanaar | morning |
| 22:25.13 | ckknight_ | hey sylvanaar |
| 22:25.29 | ckknight_ | so I'm thinking of adding the whole (1 hit, 2 crits) thing to Parrot throttling |
| 22:26.05 | sylvanaar | its not a bad idea |
| 22:26.19 | ckknight_ | and take out the [Count] thing |
| 22:26.27 | ckknight_ | just append it to the end |
| 22:27.11 | Fisker- | http://img.4chan.org/b/src/1185316015091.jpg |
| 22:27.20 | Kirkburn | I find it amazing how much of a d*ck elhana can be "the Ace devs are hiding behind the fact that Omen/Threat is beta" ... how dare they >< |
| 22:27.37 | deltron | where was that? |
| 22:27.41 | Fisker- | lol |
| 22:27.44 | Kirkburn | Where do you think? |
| 22:27.53 | Fisker- | INITIATE KENCO TROLL WAR |
| 22:28.30 | deltron | lol |
| 22:28.32 | sylvanaar | i'd almost like just to know crits, and have the rest summarized, or have high crits/hits shown and the rest summarized/throttled |
| 22:28.37 | ckknight | Kirkburn: oh, it's a sweet gig we have, we basically get to produce a product extremely fast, get users testing (because Ace beta is essentially stable, in most minds), and when something breaks, we just say, "oh it's beta, wait for release if you're so snippy" |
| 22:28.52 | Kirkburn | hehe |
| 22:28.54 | ckknight | in the end, it lets us produce an overall better product |
| 22:29.00 | ckknight | because we get users testing the latest stuff |
| 22:29.04 | sylvanaar | it is a sweet gig |
| 22:29.08 | ckknight | but we don't have to account for ourselves |
| 22:29.30 | Kirkburn | I am intrigued to know why KTM is only reading 2 stars on new Curse atm |
| 22:29.35 | Fisker- | nothing like the hunters complaining about being able to tranq shot because they kept getting errors with KTM |
| 22:29.41 | ckknight | 2 stars? |
| 22:29.51 | Kirkburn | Yeah |
| 22:29.54 | Fisker- | got 4 stars here |
| 22:30.01 | Kirkburn | I think the graphic is weirded up |
| 22:30.24 | Fisker- | unfortunately i can't re-rate it |
| 22:30.37 | Fisker- | but kenco can be downrated now |
| 22:30.39 | Fisker- | that'll be fun |
| 22:30.45 | Kirkburn | lol |
| 22:31.00 | Kaydeethree | ooh, this I gotta see |
| 22:31.21 | Kirkburn | Heh, I see someone just downrated elhana's rant |
| 22:31.35 | sylvanaar | wherer is that |
| 22:31.39 | Fisker- | me of course |
| 22:31.46 | Kirkburn | Where the hell do you think >< |
| 22:31.49 | Kirkburn | ~ktmflame |
| 22:31.50 | purl | ktmflame is probably http://www-en.curse-gaming.com/downloads/details/4204/#comment_272871 |
| 22:31.58 | Kirkburn | Oooh, we need to update that link :D |
| 22:32.33 | Kirkburn | purl, no, ktmflame is http://wow.curse.com/downloads/details/4204/ |
| 22:32.34 | purl | okay, Kirkburn |
| 22:32.38 | mikma | but, you shouldn't be reading that |
| 22:32.42 | mikma | he clearly states it there |
| 22:32.52 | mikma | Who shouldn't be reading this guide? |
| 22:32.53 | mikma | d) People i don't like. |
| 22:33.03 | Kirkburn | :O |
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| 22:33.47 | Mecdemort | ok I need some help here, SetPoint() keeps stretching my textures when I change the anchor points, is there another thing I can call to move a texture? |
| 22:34.19 | CIA-22 | 03durcyn * r44761 10BanzaiAlert/BanzaiAlert.lua: BanzaiAlert: fix defaults, only insert targets into the fallback display options table if the associated addons are found. |
| 22:34.26 | Kirkburn | It's obvious Ace people hide all their bugs, it's why the forums are so well hidden >_> |
| 22:34.43 | Saint-N | wait |
| 22:34.49 | Saint-N | thersa forum for ace stuff? |
| 22:34.55 | Kirkburn | Woah, srsly? |
| 22:35.02 | Saint-N | that |
| 22:35.03 | Saint-N | just |
| 22:35.04 | Kirkburn | No wai! |
| 22:35.04 | Saint-N | blows |
| 22:35.05 | Saint-N | my |
| 22:35.06 | Saint-N | mind |
| 22:35.12 | Mecdemort | there are no bugs /handwave |
| 22:35.33 | Kirkburn | These are not the bugs we are looking for. |
| 22:35.46 | Mecdemort | lol |
| 22:36.13 | Fisker- | gonna get some sleep |
| 22:36.17 | Fisker- | JERKburn |
| 22:36.19 | Fisker- | as he would call you |
| 22:36.26 | Fisker- | not me of course |
| 22:36.31 | Fisker- | :( |
| 22:36.36 | Kirkburn | Whatever, F***er- :O |
| 22:36.42 | Fisker- | i claim diplomatic immunity |
| 22:37.02 | duaiwe | Fisker's an insult by default.:P |
| 22:37.05 | duaiwe | dammit |
| 22:37.44 | Dustwhisper| | btw not sure if this is a bug or not with threat/omen but on vashj today but the tank somehow magically had 150.000 threat after 30 seconds =D |
| 22:37.46 | ravagernl | mecdemort: Have you tried using ClearAllPoints() before attempting to use SetPoint |
| 22:37.59 | Fisker- | Dustwhisper| stop being guilded to Kungen |
| 22:38.01 | Mecdemort | ravagernl: no indeed |
| 22:38.02 | Fisker- | oh andn ight |
| 22:38.03 | Fisker- | night |
| 22:38.04 | Saint-N | hes a REALLY good tank then ;P |
| 22:38.22 | Fisker- | see teh j00 |
| 22:40.07 | CIA-22 | 03kergoth * r44762 10ClassTimer/Bars/Hunter.lua: |
| 22:40.07 | CIA-22 | ClassTimer: (Hunter.lua) |
| 22:40.07 | CIA-22 | * The buff on the pet is "Frenzy Effect", not "Frenzy". Fix it so we actually see a bar for it again. |
| 22:40.07 | CIA-22 | * Add Feed Pet Effect to misc. |
| 22:41.16 | Mecdemort | ravagernl: works like a charm, thanks |
| 22:41.23 | ravagernl | :) |
| 22:43.22 | CIA-22 | 03oridan * r44763 10ShoutReminder/ShoutReminder.lua: |
| 22:43.22 | CIA-22 | ShoutReminder: |
| 22:43.22 | CIA-22 | - fix a bug causing the entire global scope being dumped to the SV... dont ask o.0 |
| 22:43.22 | CIA-22 | - reorganise event registrations |
| 22:43.22 | CIA-22 | - preparation for more options |
| 22:44.07 | Dustwhisper| | WTF Fisker- ? Kungen? |
| 22:44.57 | Kirkburn | Kungen is awesome |
| 22:45.00 | Kirkburn | Pure awesome |
| 22:47.11 | deltron | oic |
| 22:47.20 | deltron | I heard he's really tall heh |
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| 22:47.47 | Mecdemort | textures have to be of size 2^x right? |
| 22:47.58 | mjc | logging on dead is dead shexeh |
| 22:48.38 | deltron | mjc: hi2u |
| 22:48.42 | mjc | hey |
| 22:48.49 | deltron | mjc: how's the iphone? |
| 22:48.57 | mjc | shexeh |
| 22:49.28 | kaiden | Youtube / video playing hasn't been working for a few days now |
| 22:49.39 | deltron | heh |
| 22:50.53 | mjc | kaiden: did you use iasign or something similar? |
| 22:51.06 | kaiden | what's that? |
| 22:51.18 | kaiden | obviously not if i dont know what it is ;p |
| 22:51.18 | mjc | anything that activates the phone without using itunes |
| 22:51.21 | kaiden | oh no |
| 22:51.26 | mjc | they overwrite the ssl stuff |
| 22:51.32 | deltron | eww itunes |
| 22:51.37 | kaiden | mine was legit activation with at&t/itunes |
| 22:51.46 | CIA-22 | 03kemayo * r44764 10FuBar_KungFu/.wau: FuBar_KungFu: Add a .wau for stable=true. |
| 22:52.00 | ckknight | stable=true? |
| 22:52.04 | mjc | shrug; youtube has worked fine for me since I bought the phone except when I started messing with the ssl certs |
| 22:52.17 | Kemayo | ckknight: For the updaters. |
| 22:52.19 | mjc | deltron: itunes is awesome if your OS doesn't suck |
| 22:52.24 | deltron | nay |
| 22:52.31 | deltron | foobar is <3 |
| 22:52.37 | kaiden | mjc, aka if you have a mac ;P |
| 22:52.55 | mjc | deltron: except that any kind of large collection is a huge fucking chore to manage with fb |
| 22:53.09 | kergoth | mjc, git://git.kergoth.com/addonset.git - proof of concept.. what's biting me at the moment is code reliance upon svn keyword expansion :P |
| 22:53.23 | mjc | deltron: 375000 songs here; fb eventually drove me mad |
| 22:53.36 | deltron | hah |
| 22:53.40 | deltron | you have that much online? |
| 22:53.48 | mjc | yeah |
| 22:53.49 | Amadeo | iTunes has a great interface, just super bloated |
| 22:53.58 | deltron | I only have like 12K |
| 22:54.36 | Kemayo | ckknight: Actually, I think this will mark the first addon to have flagged itself as stable. I'll have to watch the feed to see if it picks up. |
| 22:54.44 | CIA-22 | 03oridan * r44765 10ShoutReminder/ShoutReminder.toc: |
| 22:54.44 | CIA-22 | ShoutReminder: |
| 22:54.44 | CIA-22 | - forgot some embeds |
| 22:54.56 | Amadeo | Can try something like musikCube for iTunes-like interface without the bloat |
| 22:54.58 | mjc | Amadeo: not sure where you get bloated from, but ok |
| 22:55.05 | deltron | it's very bloated |
| 22:55.12 | deltron | also, os x is meh |
| 22:55.14 | sylvanaar | how is it supported |
| 22:55.14 | kaiden | Is there a better timer bar system than Hourglass? |
| 22:55.19 | Kemayo | iTunes really does run like a pig on windows. |
| 22:55.27 | kaiden | i dislike the fact that hourglass doesn't support changing the width of the bars |
| 22:55.39 | Amadeo | mjc: Try musikCube out |
| 22:55.52 | Amadeo | Well, if you have a Windows box around |
| 22:56.05 | mjc | I can boot parallels |
| 22:56.16 | Kemayo | You can also give fubar plugins that make it work somewhat like iTunes. |
| 22:56.25 | Amadeo | I dunno if it supports Vista or not |
| 22:56.32 | Amadeo | it doesn't seem to have been updated in a while |
| 22:56.52 | Saint-N | i dislike itunes for the same reason i dislike napster and realplayer |
| 22:56.55 | mjc | Kemayo: haha most of the foobar plugins are major fucking hacks |
| 22:57.01 | Saint-N | proprietary software is teh suhk |
| 22:57.07 | deltron | fuck itunes |
| 22:57.17 | deltron | there's NO reason for apple not to support vista |
| 22:57.19 | Kemayo | mjc: Hey, they work. Good enough for me. |
| 22:57.36 | Amadeo | XMPlay is a great little player, too |
| 22:57.37 | deltron | ...and that's any difference from ace mods? |
| 22:57.38 | deltron | :D |
| 22:57.40 | sylvanaar | You know what we should have done is let addon-pack authors make a file which only lets their users get the files from thier addon packs / bypassing the whole stable/not stable thing |
| 22:57.42 | deltron | amarok is nice |
| 22:57.48 | mjc | deltron: there is plenty reason, you have to pay an assload of money to get vista driver certification and also there is a rather large waiting period for cert. |
| 22:58.07 | deltron | they have had well over a year to fucking get shit working |
| 22:58.20 | deltron | too bad apple can't write windows software |
| 22:58.34 | mjc | vista is pretty much useless anyways; I tried it for four months or so |
| 22:58.55 | sylvanaar | mjc it works just fine, how is it useless |
| 22:59.01 | Amadeo | As much as people hate Vista, and as much as it doesn't sell, it's still about to outpace OSX in market share :P |
| 22:59.03 | Arrowmaster | does omen/threat actually have any code like 'for _=1,1 do if () then code; break end end'??? |
| 22:59.04 | mjc | it's extremely inconsistent |
| 22:59.24 | kaiden | Anyone out here dual box on a linux machine? |
| 22:59.24 | sylvanaar | who cares, that doesnt make it useless |
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| 22:59.25 | NightHawkTheSane | Amadeo: that's a pretty meaningless statement. :P |
| 22:59.29 | mjc | Amadeo: it sells only because microsoft recently started allowing people to sell XP in stores again |
| 22:59.36 | *** mode/#wowace [+v Shirik] by ChanServ |
| 22:59.38 | sylvanaar | still runs all my programs |
| 22:59.48 | deltron | kaiden: I do on one of my laptops |
| 23:00.10 | kaiden | deltron, do you share your mouse / keyboard between 2 machines? |
| 23:00.12 | Kemayo | I have XP and Vista both installed on my computer. Vista has some good points, but I still can't bring myself to actually use it. |
| 23:00.13 | mjc | sylvanaar: half the shortcuts aren't the same, the navigation is inconsistent, window switching is inconsistent, etc. |
| 23:00.16 | Amadeo | NightHawkTheSane: I don't know a lot of people who love Vista, most people complain about it...I wouldn't know, I don't run it...but everyone praises OSX, you'd assume that people might start migrating to Apple because of Vista's failure, but I guess it's not happening |
| 23:00.25 | deltron | kaiden: ah not with my laptop :) |
| 23:00.35 | Saint-N | i do through a belkin switch |
| 23:00.48 | mjc | Amadeo: most people are just sitting pretty on xp or buying vista and realizing that it's a pain in the ass |
| 23:00.57 | Saint-N | only thing you have to remember is if you reboot be on the machine thats booting for proper driver detection |
| 23:00.59 | kaiden | i use Multiplicity on windows, and i miss linux, but synergy2 sucks |
| 23:01.02 | sylvanaar | mjc - if it were like xp you would say, its just like xp why bother |
| 23:01.03 | NightHawkTheSane | Amadeo: inertia is a powerful force in the market place. Vista's inertia has/will build on all the inertia windows already has. |
| 23:01.12 | kaiden | and i was wondering if there was any other software that shared the mouse between machines on *nix |
| 23:01.19 | mjc | four of my nontechnical cow-orkers have returned their machines or attempted to |
| 23:01.24 | Amadeo | moo |
| 23:01.38 | Saint-N | kaiden: oh i just use hardware sharing ;P |
| 23:01.56 | Kemayo | I could probably switch to vista if I disabled UAC. |
| 23:02.04 | kaiden | Kemayo, dont do it :( |
| 23:02.05 | Saint-N | keymayo: DRM |
| 23:02.08 | sylvanaar | Kemayo i did that |
| 23:02.10 | kaiden | i run vista now on my main machine.. and i hate it |
| 23:02.10 | Amadeo | I was actually hoping that since Vista isn't being widely accepted, that more developers would start looking at OSX as a viable platform |
| 23:02.16 | Saint-N | that alopne means ill never run vista |
| 23:02.24 | kaiden | I run base install on it all i do is play wow and use it as a storage machine |
| 23:02.27 | kaiden | and play music on it |
| 23:02.31 | Amadeo | Need more competition, always |
| 23:02.33 | sylvanaar | DRM is not even noticable |
| 23:02.35 | kaiden | i can't tell you how often explorer crashes :/ |
| 23:02.49 | Saint-N | sylvanaar: then you dont have the extensive collection i do ;P |
| 23:03.03 | sylvanaar | i guess not |
| 23:03.05 | Amadeo | kaiden: That's pretty sad, since XP doesn't crash at all for me anymore |
| 23:03.13 | Saint-N | drm annoyed the hell out of me as well as uac |
| 23:03.18 | deltron | ok bbl |
| 23:03.24 | deltron | you can disable uac |
| 23:03.25 | kaiden | yeah i miss xp i just haven't had time to switch back |
| 23:03.29 | Kemayo | kaiden: UAC bugs the hell out of me. If I want to run safely, I'll run a non-administrator account. If I'm running an administrator account, I don't want to be nagged every 5 seconds about whether I'm sure I want to open the control panel. |
| 23:03.32 | Amadeo | As annoying as UAC is, people have been praising it |
| 23:03.34 | Saint-N | yeah i know but i really shouldnt have to ;P |
| 23:03.37 | sylvanaar | uac was disabled within a week |
| 23:03.38 | kaiden | Kemayo, uac is easy to disable |
| 23:03.47 | NightHawkTheSane | Amadeo: again, not really valid. Any developer who doesn't see os x as a viable platform now, won't change because vista is less than stellar. Realistically, there's no vista<--->osx movement, so windows' overall share is the same. |
| 23:03.49 | Saint-N | exactly kemayo |
| 23:03.50 | kaiden | Kemayo, start -> run -> msconfig last tab |
| 23:03.59 | Saint-N | thats the point though |
| 23:04.06 | Saint-N | you shouldnt HAVE to disable it as admin |
| 23:04.14 | Amadeo | NightHawkTheSane: Yeah, just wishful thinking :( |
| 23:04.24 | kaiden | Saint-N, i agree on vista ultimate you shouldn't have to |
| 23:04.26 | NightHawkTheSane | Amadeo: Yeah, i know. :( |
| 23:04.29 | kaiden | because you obviously know what youa re doing |
| 23:04.33 | kaiden | UAC is for stupid people :) |
| 23:04.37 | Kemayo | kaiden: Ah, I see, I misinturpreted you. You were saying I shouldn't switch, not that I shouldn't disable UAC, right. :D |
| 23:04.52 | kaiden | Kemayo, yeah.. you shouldn't run Vista.. it's not ready yet :P |
| 23:04.52 | mjc | Amadeo: most developers don't know fuck all about their platform or about even half the functions available to them on their platforms, let alone care about anything other than point and click code with access/VB/VS+intellisense |
| 23:04.53 | Saint-N | kaiden: and no amount of OS protection is gonna keep stupid people from breaking it ;P |
| 23:04.54 | Amadeo | I'm not sure UAC is for morons, because they'll probably allow everything anyway |
| 23:05.08 | sylvanaar | you should have to - for the same reason you shouldnt run linux as root, but many do |
| 23:05.10 | Saint-N | im not a fan of having software or people tell me what i can and cant do ;P |
| 23:05.15 | Saint-N | <-- smokes btw |
| 23:05.30 | NightHawkTheSane | mjc: sad, but so true. :P |
| 23:05.33 | Saint-N | so im brinign that bias of people being incapable of taking respoinsibilty for stupid actions into it |
| 23:05.35 | kaiden | sylvanaar, a lot of people run linux as root out of sheer lazyness |
| 23:05.36 | kaiden | i do |
| 23:05.38 | kaiden | lol |
| 23:05.40 | sylvanaar | right |
| 23:05.44 | Saint-N | kaiden: heh i do too ;P |
| 23:05.51 | Kaydeethree | ick. I never go anywhere near my root account |
| 23:05.55 | kaiden | and if you are intelligent it wont matter if you are running root |
| 23:06.01 | Saint-N | 12 years and never been rooted on my machine as root ;P |
| 23:06.11 | buu | Running as non-root really doesn't get you much |
| 23:06.11 | NightHawkTheSane | Hey,I run my mac on my admin account. Yeah, dumb, but meh. I know what I'm doing and am too lazy to change. :D |
| 23:06.12 | Amadeo | mjc: These days it's all about money with as little effort as possible :/ |
| 23:06.15 | buu | Unless it's a multi-user machine. |
| 23:06.17 | Saint-N | common sense plays a large portion of that ;P |
| 23:06.21 | kaiden | ipchains ftw! :) |
| 23:06.22 | Kemayo | My root account isn't even capable of being logged in as. :D |
| 23:06.27 | mjc | Amadeo: s/these days// |
| 23:06.31 | mjc | i |
| 23:06.34 | sylvanaar | thats stupid to do, thats why UAC is there, so that people who run their machines as "root" have some safeguards |
| 23:06.53 | NightHawkTheSane | Kemayo: thats the only way to go, really |
| 23:06.54 | mjc | usability studies and general human/anything interaction studies have proven for over FIFTY years that repeatedly asking the same fucking questions will only prod someone to answer the same fucking way every time |
| 23:06.58 | sylvanaar | you can disable them - but you cant ignore them |
| 23:07.11 | sylvanaar | which im fine with - disabling is easy |
| 23:07.25 | Droolio | briefly - what's the best way to determine if a non-guildie non-friends-list player is offline or online? |
| 23:07.36 | buu | Kemayo: The problem of course is that your user account has access to everything important anyway. |
| 23:07.36 | Kemayo | Droolio: By name? |
| 23:07.38 | Amadeo | Yeah, usability surveys are pretty pointless |
| 23:07.44 | Arrowmaster | Droolio: who |
| 23:07.47 | mjc | sylvanaar: the point is it's useless, because for people that are dumb enough to run as root are dumb enough to always hit allow |
| 23:07.50 | Antiarc|Work | http://www.popamericana.com/!/3132005173024.jpg |
| 23:07.53 | mjc | Amadeo: oh? |
| 23:07.55 | Kemayo | Droolio: As arrowmaster says, who 'em. |
| 23:07.57 | kaiden | in all honesty.. if i COULD give up windows completely and move to a mac i would |
| 23:08.01 | Amadeo | Didn't openSUSE base their KDE menu on some surveys? |
| 23:08.05 | Amadeo | I hate it |
| 23:08.10 | kaiden | i just upgrade my hardware far too often to buy a mac |
| 23:08.10 | Saint-N | sylvanaar: but if you constantly have safeguards in place you never learn your elsson ;P |
| 23:08.16 | mjc | Amadeo: so not knowing anything about what people can and can't use except what a developer thinks people can use is the way to go eh |
| 23:08.27 | sylvanaar | mjc but MS can say that dumbass disabled UAC, its his fault |
| 23:08.31 | Kemayo | buu: That's where the backups come in. Backup the data, make sure the account can't trash the system. |
| 23:08.33 | sylvanaar | see |
| 23:08.42 | Amadeo | mjc: Which part of the population decides what's usable? |
| 23:08.43 | Saint-N | sylvanaar: its called personal responsibility ;P |
| 23:08.45 | mjc | sylvanaar: that is CYA not utility |
| 23:08.47 | Mecdemort | what might cause an addons database defaults to keep loading when you /rl or relog? |
| 23:08.54 | mjc | Amadeo: one bad use of one fucked up study does not make the whole field pointless |
| 23:08.55 | buu | Kemayo: *shrug*, if you have backups, trashing the machinei is usually irrelevant. |
| 23:09.08 | mjc | Amadeo: usability testing created things like the GUI, the mouse, etc. |
| 23:09.17 | Kaydeethree | Mecdemort, file permissions, things being read-only, etc... |
| 23:09.18 | Droolio | Arrowmaster: for the purposes of doing this in an addon, will that immediately return a value? |
| 23:09.25 | Arrowmaster | personally as a user i would like to run my desktop as a normal user with the ability to switch to root/admin when needed |
| 23:09.27 | Arrowmaster | Droolio: no |
| 23:09.29 | Saint-N | i skated boared and if i hurt myself bad doing it on someones properly i took responsibility for doing something stupid, i didnt look for someone to blame |
| 23:09.40 | sylvanaar | haha, people misusing the MS OS'es gives MS bad press, and feeds the trolls |
| 23:09.43 | mjc | Arrowmaster: eg. sudo style |
| 23:09.46 | Amadeo | I'm sure Grandma's ideal interface is different than some basement-coder, but who's the right one? |
| 23:09.53 | Kemayo | buu: Even if you have backups, trashing the machine means an annoying amount of time lost repairing/rebuilding/reinstalling. |
| 23:09.57 | Saint-N | same holds true for computers to a degree... if you put in safe guards they you ARE responsible for misuse |
| 23:10.03 | Arrowmaster | but you cant really do that in windows xp, which is why i renamed my admin account and created a new account named admin but gave it guest rights |
| 23:10.04 | mjc | sylvanaar: so? software should be about using the goddamn thing not about covering your ass |
| 23:10.05 | buu | Kemayo: Well.. |
| 23:10.08 | Mecdemort | Kaydeethree: it saves all the other variables fine, and reloads them along with defaults |
| 23:10.11 | buu | Kemayo: Relatively speaking. |
| 23:10.18 | buu | Kemayo: 2 hours to reinstall.. 10 years of data.. |
| 23:10.23 | Saint-N | thats the whole reason this office i do support for doesnt filter or block shit |
| 23:10.34 | kaiden | am i the only person on the planet that doesn't care if he loses data? |
| 23:10.37 | Saint-N | if we monitor and filter content to everyone and things go bad WE are liable for that traffic |
| 23:10.40 | mjc | Arrowmaster: right click run as |
| 23:10.41 | mjc | :P |
| 23:10.43 | Saint-N | if we dont, we're not ;P |
| 23:10.43 | NightHawkTheSane | kaiden: yes, probably. |
| 23:10.59 | Kemayo | kaiden: Depends on the data, I'm sure. |
| 23:10.59 | Kaydeethree | safe harbor provisions ftw |
| 23:11.00 | sylvanaar | sure, unless everyone is taking pot shots at you, and saying oh look another MS problem (some user doing somethign they shouldnt have) |
| 23:11.09 | kaiden | Kemayo, i have 0 attachments |
| 23:11.09 | mjc | Kaydeethree: wrong, common carrier |
| 23:11.13 | NightHawkTheSane | kaiden: you know what makes the world turn? those little ones and zeroes you're not afraid of losing. :P |
| 23:11.16 | Kaydeethree | bah, that's what I meant |
| 23:11.21 | Arrowmaster | mjc: yeah i know about that but its nowhere as useful as the ways of doing it in linux desktop guis |
| 23:11.25 | kaiden | i just have nothing i really care about anymore |
| 23:11.33 | kaiden | i mean i'm sure used to... when i was coding i'd have freaked if i lost something |
| 23:11.36 | kaiden | but these days bleh |
| 23:11.50 | mjc | Arrowmaster: asking people how they use X doesn't get you anything |
| 23:11.57 | Arrowmaster | mjc: for example you cant run explorer as an admin on a normal account afaik |
| 23:12.01 | mjc | Arrowmaster: which is why that 'usability study' was a crock of shit |
| 23:12.11 | mjc | Arrowmaster: runas /user foo /noprofile explorer.exe |
| 23:12.53 | Arrowmaster | one of those things only power users would do because theyd be the only ones to make a shortcut for that |
| 23:13.13 | mjc | yes, and, I was saying you can do it on XP if you need to |
| 23:13.21 | mjc | but the way apple does it is way easier |
| 23:13.51 | mjc | just prompt you for your password every time you need write access somewhere or when running an installer |
| 23:13.51 | durcyn | you're just as owned either way if your credentials are compromised.. default osx sudo config is wide open |
| 23:13.53 | Arrowmaster | same with nix systems, some of the file managers have an option in their menus to switch to root |
| 23:13.59 | mjc | otherwise go away |
| 23:14.22 | mjc | durcyn: it's not wide open, you have to type in your password at least once after login |
| 23:14.36 | durcyn | mjc: notice i said "if your credentials are compromised" |
| 23:14.40 | mjc | if someone knows your password then obv. you're screwed |
| 23:14.44 | NightHawkTheSane | mjc: er, i assume password is implied by 'credentials' :P |
| 23:14.50 | mjc | how are you any less screwed with windows? |
| 23:14.54 | durcyn | it's functionally identical to windows admin group. |
| 23:14.55 | sylvanaar | nothing MS did was wrong, except there are too many things which requrire elevation |
| 23:14.59 | durcyn | no, i said "Just as screwed" |
| 23:15.07 | durcyn | RBAC is the way to go regardless of platform |
| 23:15.11 | mjc | so what exactly is your point then? |
| 23:15.44 | durcyn | that requiring group membership and password authentication for anything is infantile? |
| 23:15.48 | mjc | sylvanaar: it doesn't cache authentication or group it |
| 23:15.48 | NightHawkTheSane | durcyn: yeah, the default install isn't as secure as it could be, but it's trivial to run as a non-admin account, then if you're credentials are compromised, they (ideally) wont have your admin user/pass, which is needed for priviledge escallation |
| 23:16.05 | Amadeo | Software is only as secure as its market share |
| 23:16.07 | NightHawkTheSane | bleh, i mauled a few words there. >< |
| 23:16.22 | sylvanaar | it does |
| 23:16.34 | durcyn | Amadeo: inverse proportion |
| 23:16.45 | mjc | sylvanaar: then why does one get prompted seven times during an install of a MS product |
| 23:16.56 | mjc | in a 5 minute period |
| 23:17.17 | Amadeo | I thought UAC was supposed to "learn" after a while, or something |
| 23:17.20 | mjc | I mean UAC auth, maybe authorizaiton |
| 23:17.41 | NightHawkTheSane | Amadeo: while true, its only true to a point. some things are just more or less secure than others. |
| 23:17.49 | sylvanaar | because you started without elevation. so each process you start is not elevated |
| 23:18.04 | Kaydeethree | meh, that's why I like gnome's/fedora's way of doing it. I type in the root password once then I don't have to type it in for 4-5 minutes if there's anything else I need to do with root privs |
| 23:18.26 | Amadeo | NightHawkTheSane: Yeah, I agree with that also, there's always better decisions to be made |
| 23:18.35 | mjc | sylvanaar: except that this installer is always asking you to auth msiexec, the same process |
| 23:18.36 | sylvanaar | you could run the startup as admin, and achieve the same |
| 23:18.55 | sylvanaar | mjc no, its not the same |
| 23:19.03 | Amadeo | You look at stuff like Firefox, which was supposed to be the end-all of browser security, and it has tons of holes now, because the market share went up and people had reason to try to break it |
| 23:19.03 | sylvanaar | mjc it another installer |
| 23:19.18 | mjc | sylvanaar: nope, I watched process explorer |
| 23:19.20 | sylvanaar | mjc they are all called msiexec |
| 23:19.47 | NightHawkTheSane | Amadeo: heh, I doubt anyone involved in firefox thought it was the "end-all" of browser security. Merely that relative to IE, it was (and is) significantly better. |
| 23:19.49 | sylvanaar | mjc thats the windows installer process, its spawning other installers |
| 23:19.54 | break19 | how long does it take for someone to get an svn account once they've applied? im anxious to put my Envenom addon up and get some critiques on it |
| 23:20.02 | kaiden | Anyone know how hard the Adversarial Blood mobs are? Think a warrior (dps) / priest (holy/disc) could take them? |
| 23:20.19 | Amadeo | NightHawkTheSane: initially, it was claimed as being very secure...now days the secure browser of choice is Opera, which happens to have the least market share :P |
| 23:20.20 | NightHawkTheSane | Amadeo: but yeah, on some level market share did impact that, more people using it opened up more bugs. But on another level, firefox was/is objectively more secure than IE. |
| 23:20.25 | sylvanaar | mjc one installer -> runs many others |
| 23:20.32 | mjc | sylvanaar: word 2007 installer run directly from the msi only spawns one msiexec process |
| 23:21.11 | Amadeo | I use Firefox now, I can't stand IE7 at all |
| 23:21.16 | mjc | I have talked to MS about it and they created a knowledge base article about it |
| 23:21.19 | Amadeo | Opera is great, but too many problems |
| 23:21.23 | kaiden | Firefox has far too many memory leaks in it |
| 23:21.41 | NightHawkTheSane | Amadeo: heh, opera's always been that way, though. "It's great.. but..." |
| 23:21.46 | Arrowmaster | i think thats a feature not a memory leak |
| 23:21.48 | mjc | kaiden: memory leaks? upgrade to 2.0 and stay away from myspace |
| 23:21.53 | kaiden | Arrowmaster, haha :) |
| 23:22.01 | Arrowmaster | kaiden: im serious |
| 23:22.02 | sylvanaar | mjc do you know why it was asking for elevation at each step? |
| 23:22.07 | mjc | and Arrowmaster is right, fastback |
| 23:22.12 | NightHawkTheSane | Arrowmaster: firefox is trying to push ie out of memory space! :D |
| 23:22.14 | Amadeo | I think high memory use in Firefox is related to whatever gives you the instant-back/forward feature on cached pages |
| 23:22.30 | Mecdemort | ok when I set a value in a table to nil it comes back as {index = { [0] = nil,}} |
| 23:22.32 | kaiden | mjc, never gone to myspace, and running 2.0.. and you can still ask all around the forums.. firefox with many tabs open shreads memory like crazy |
| 23:22.42 | mjc | kaiden: that is fastback |
| 23:22.42 | Arrowmaster | yeah it caches 10 pages forward and back for every tab |
| 23:22.46 | Amadeo | kaiden: I think all browsers do now |
| 23:22.53 | mjc | 5 pages forward/back for every tab |
| 23:22.55 | kaiden | mjc, no, you can open blank tabs and it does it |
| 23:22.55 | mjc | so taht it doesnt need to rerender |
| 23:23.04 | mjc | about:blank is still a page |
| 23:23.12 | Arrowmaster | theres a way to disable it |
| 23:23.29 | Amadeo | Open up a bunch of websites in any browser, and the memory use will skyrocket |
| 23:23.32 | mjc | sylvanaar: yes; it only authorizes each particular relevant syscall |
| 23:23.36 | mjc | it's pretty ridiculous |
| 23:24.06 | mjc | sylvanaar: basically first it tries to write to program files, then it tries to add crap to the registry, and the two are not the same prompt, so you receive two |
| 23:24.17 | mjc | that's what I could glean from procexp |
| 23:24.27 | mjc | kaiden: turn off fastback and then complan |
| 23:24.29 | mjc | complain |
| 23:24.38 | Amadeo | Mustang |
| 23:24.44 | sylvanaar | mjc some of that is true - they require different permissions to do |
| 23:24.48 | mjc | kaiden: and to be honest if you are that worried about something that is really that useful close more tabs or buy fucking memory |
| 23:25.01 | sylvanaar | mjc but you could have run the whole thing as admin from the start |
| 23:25.21 | mjc | sylvanaar: it should do that for you; that's why UAC is broken |
| 23:25.25 | Amadeo | Once you hit 3.3GB, you're done for :( |
| 23:25.37 | mjc | Amadeo: not if you're not a tard |
| 23:26.08 | Arrowmaster | kaiden: http://kb.mozillazine.org/Browser.sessionhistory.max_total_viewers |
| 23:26.14 | mjc | PAE works fine on 32bit, the performance decrease is not noticable on a desktopp |
| 23:27.02 | Amadeo | Seems like the new standard in memory is 2GB |
| 23:27.06 | Amadeo | It's expanding pretty rapidly |
| 23:27.06 | pb_ee1 | New release of the LZRoster, manages dungeons access and have shiny tooltips with sockets: http://zorglub6.free.fr/roster/ |
| 23:27.18 | mjc | Amadeo: because vista uses 800MB w/ aero glass on |
| 23:27.19 | sylvanaar | mjc i dont know, like i said, it could be spawning processes, but the elevation prompts are asking for the minimum permission set to acomplish the task. the rest is a flaw in the installer. |
| 23:27.31 | Amadeo | haha |
| 23:27.51 | mjc | sylvanaar: it's the fucking standard MS installer for a brand fucking new office version |
| 23:27.51 | Amadeo | Doesn't the amount it uses change depending on how much RAM you have? |
| 23:27.55 | Amadeo | Usually the more RAM you have, the more it will use |
| 23:28.07 | sylvanaar | mjc it came out before vista |
| 23:28.07 | CIA-22 | 03mitchell 07AceAddon * r44766 10RangeDisplay/ (8 files): RangeDisplay: fixed some of the drycode errors. still struggling with AceConsole/AceDB... |
| 23:28.08 | Arrowmaster | lots of things do that |
| 23:28.31 | sylvanaar | mjc its well over a year old |
| 23:28.33 | Arrowmaster | xp's system cache takes up half of my 1gb of ram |
| 23:28.33 | mjc | sylvanaar: they were developed at the same time and released to non-MSDN at the same time, afaik |
| 23:28.43 | mjc | sylvanaar: from teh same fucking company |
| 23:28.56 | Amadeo | Arrowmaster: Yeah, and obviously if you had 512MB, it wouldn't be using up 500 of it :) |
| 23:29.01 | mjc | sylvanaar: you're being irrational |
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| 23:29.25 | Mecdemort | ok I'm deffinitly getting default values loading even when other values exist |
| 23:29.35 | mjc | Amadeo: it swaps 3/4 of itself out when I limit memory to 512MB |
| 23:29.35 | Arrowmaster | yet i tend to run more than one program that likes to use up a fuck ton of ram if it finds you have a large amount total |
| 23:29.47 | Amadeo | I hate swap |
| 23:29.50 | sylvanaar | mjc im not bein irrational - i find uac annoying too- but it is not broken - the software isnt designed for it. |
| 23:29.53 | Amadeo | I hate the registry, too |
| 23:29.58 | Amadeo | it can go die |
| 23:30.13 | mjc | swap is better than ooming |
| 23:30.13 | sylvanaar | mjc UAC is not ready for primetime home use |
| 23:30.48 | Amadeo | I remember playing EverQuest and having my swap set to something like 900MB, and it running out of memory because it wanted something like 1500 :P |
| 23:31.32 | mjc | sylvanaar: UAC isn't ready for anything and it should have been done right the first fucking time fifteen fucking years ago |
| 23:31.55 | mjc | Amadeo: blame everquest |
| 23:32.01 | Amadeo | I do |
| 23:32.04 | sylvanaar | mjc too much has to change to comply with UAC - they didnt halt the office 2k7 release because vista hadnt been released there was no point |
| 23:32.19 | Amadeo | A lot of people seem to think that SP1 will save Vista, but I dunno, XP is doing fine for me |
| 23:32.48 | mjc | vista will be saved by ms' monopolistic bullshit |
| 23:32.59 | Amadeo | Kinda sad to rely on a future patch to make something viable |
| 23:33.01 | mjc | xp will be phased out and everyone will be stuck with it |
| 23:33.08 | Amadeo | That reminds me of upcoming Hellgate: London, which has the same ideas |
| 23:33.21 | Kaydeethree | but it's like xp, xp wasn't really ready for primetime until its' sp1 came out |
| 23:33.26 | sylvanaar | mjc there is nothing inherently wrong with vista, if i wanted to pick apart anything I could do it. apple, linux, they all have thier faults |
| 23:33.34 | Amadeo | mjc: They're still milking money out of XP, so I don't think they can get rid of it any time soon |
| 23:33.42 | Chompers | vista's been great for me so far |
| 23:33.46 | Chompers | maybe i'm just lucky |
| 23:34.07 | Amadeo | sylvanaar's right about that, none of em are perfect...they just excel in different areas |
| 23:34.18 | mjc | sylvanaar: windows UI period is broken, why do you think everyone runs everything in one giant window that takes up the whole screen |
| 23:34.23 | sylvanaar | apple, i was a user for 10 years, they were absolutely the WORST at hardware service |
| 23:34.29 | mjc | sylvanaar: it's not really windows if you only have one |
| 23:34.52 | mjc | it's "window" |
| 23:34.55 | Amadeo | Worse than Linux? :P |
| 23:35.02 | mjc | and a bunch of minimized shit |
| 23:35.19 | sylvanaar | mjc you can run multiple desktops |
| 23:35.36 | mjc | so you have two desktops each with one "window" |
| 23:35.48 | mjc | which is just as difficult to keep track of as a bunch of minimized shit |
| 23:35.49 | Amadeo | I've never understood that argument of yours, mjc |
| 23:36.07 | mjc | Amadeo: why run everything in fullscreen on a 19"+ monitor? |
| 23:36.08 | sylvanaar | mjc now its easy to see why you dont like vista |
| 23:36.24 | kebinusan | <3 Beryl |
| 23:36.26 | Amadeo | Perhaps if you have 4 windows open that are all on the same topic, that would make more sense |
| 23:36.38 | kaiden | i <3 Beryl also :P most beautiful thing ever hehe |
| 23:36.40 | sylvanaar | mjc it would have never met your expectations |
| 23:36.43 | Amadeo | I generally don't have that going on, and if I do, I can resize stuff or just tab around |
| 23:36.44 | mjc | Amadeo: on osx, I can cmd-tab between applications, not windows |
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| 23:36.57 | Amadeo | What's that do? Alt-Tab? |
| 23:36.59 | sylvanaar | alt - tab |
| 23:37.01 | sylvanaar | wtf |
| 23:37.01 | mjc | same basic thing yeah |
| 23:37.31 | sylvanaar | i never had many windows open on mac - no room |
| 23:37.31 | mjc | except it manages all the app's windows instead of just one window at a time |
| 23:37.33 | NightHawkTheSane | .. for what it's worth, I agree with mjh's point here, windows' windowing system is basically borked and designed around full-screen apps. Kind of a pita. |
| 23:37.37 | Amadeo | I've never understood multiple desktops in Linux, either...I just turn em off |
| 23:37.48 | kaiden | kebinusan, i heard they were merging back with compiz and just calling it compiz now? |
| 23:37.57 | mjc | plus those fucking grouped application windows are terrible |
| 23:38.00 | NightHawkTheSane | There's no good global windows shortcut for cycling between windows in a single app. Drives me batty |
| 23:38.03 | break19 | how long does it take for someone to get an svn account once they've applied? im anxious to put my Envenom addon up and get some critiques on it |
| 23:38.07 | mjc | click the "application" and you get a list of window titles? wtf |
| 23:38.10 | sylvanaar | mjc turn it off then |
| 23:38.14 | kaiden | break19, a good long while usually |
| 23:38.19 | mjc | sylvanaar: and have a bunch of icons? just as useless |
| 23:38.25 | kaiden | sometimes afew weeks to a month or more, depending on how busy kaelten is |
| 23:38.33 | mjc | sylvanaar: or the vista alt tab is a bunch of tiny-ass miniwindows |
| 23:38.36 | mjc | also useless |
| 23:38.39 | kebinusan | havent payed attention |
| 23:38.55 | kaiden | Ok, what's the current flavor of the month favorite distro for linux? |
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| 23:39.02 | mjc | kaiden: ubuntu |
| 23:39.03 | NightHawkTheSane | kaiden: ubuntu |
| 23:39.06 | Kaydeethree | ubuntu |
| 23:39.06 | mjc | but it behaves similar to windows |
| 23:39.06 | sylvanaar | mjc i think that nothing will please you unless its your os of choice |
| 23:39.07 | mjc | :p |
| 23:39.08 | break19 | I prefer expos's way of dealing with multiple windows |
| 23:39.14 | kaiden | hehe ;) ubuntu seems to have been popular for a long time now |
| 23:39.21 | mjc | break19: I prefer cmd-tab :P |
| 23:39.27 | NightHawkTheSane | Honestly, exposé is hot, but i never got into it |
| 23:39.33 | Kaydeethree | but it's the one making all of the noise. I'll be sticking with fedora, tyvm |
| 23:39.34 | kaiden | i prefer quicksilver :) |
| 23:39.36 | NightHawkTheSane | cmd-tab, cmd-h, and cmd-` work wonderfully for me |
| 23:39.37 | break19 | i love it. use it all the time |
| 23:39.40 | Amadeo | Ubuntu is nice, but I don't really like Gnome...and Kubuntu sucks |
| 23:39.50 | Kaydeethree | xfce! |
| 23:39.55 | kaiden | Amadeo, what's your favorite distro then? |
| 23:40.00 | break19 | dashboard on the other hand, I disable right off the bat |
| 23:40.00 | kebinusan | mjc by default I suppose that gnome/metacity ahs a windows feel |
| 23:40.02 | NightHawkTheSane | windows is -seriously- missing something as useful as cmd-h and cmd-` |
| 23:40.03 | mjc | sylvanaar: there is nothing that actually works similar to that except in kde |
| 23:40.11 | Amadeo | I don't really have one, none of them have everything I want :P |
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| 23:40.25 | Amadeo | I have PCLinuxOS installed now, which is pretty good |
| 23:40.31 | mjc | sylvanaar: everyone I know that I have explained that to suddenly gets a productivity boost |
| 23:40.42 | Comxx | Antiarc you there ? |
| 23:40.56 | mjc | pclinuxos is basically run by a control freak, fedora uses rpm which is basically a giant fucking ball of wtf |
| 23:41.06 | kebinusan | Feisty Fawn at least finally added default support for nvidia cards, I hated doing cd isntalls only to have to update a bunch of restricted crap every install |
| 23:41.08 | mjc | ubuntu is debian without the politics or PITA configuration |
| 23:41.08 | break19 | <- gentoo abuser |
| 23:41.15 | Amadeo | mjc: Fedora takes about 10 years to update, too :P |
| 23:41.40 | Kaydeethree | 10 years to update? there's a new revision out every 6-8 months |
| 23:41.41 | Amadeo | I tried to install Azureus on Fedora 7, it froze on resolving dependencies |
| 23:41.52 | Kaydeethree | that's because they shipped a broken version of java |
| 23:41.56 | Amadeo | Kaydeethree: I mean as far as the speed of actual updating, resolving stuff, etc |
| 23:42.05 | Kaydeethree | ya, yum's pretty annoying like that |
| 23:42.09 | mjc | kebinusan: all you had to do before was run the updater thing and restart x |
| 23:42.10 | Kaydeethree | wtb delta-rpms |
| 23:42.18 | mjc | RPM is just plain broken |
| 23:42.19 | break19 | piss on binaries |
| 23:42.26 | mjc | has been for a decade and change now |
| 23:42.39 | Amadeo | I'm not a Linux expert, but after trying most of the popular ones, I've not found anything that really has everything I want |
| 23:42.51 | Kaydeethree | meh, at least we're not really in dependency hell any more, for the most part |
| 23:42.55 | Kaydeethree | that's all I can really ask for |
| 23:42.55 | Amadeo | I think Linux Mint comes close to it, though...but it felt a bit slow to me |
| 23:43.10 | mjc | wtf is that |
| 23:43.26 | Amadeo | Ubuntu-based, with all the proprietary crap you need already in there |
| 23:43.42 | mjc | ubuntu already has most of the proprietary crap |
| 23:43.47 | break19 | emerge ftw |
| 23:43.49 | mjc | not sure what else you would need |
| 23:43.59 | Amadeo | Well, for example... |
| 23:44.01 | kebinusan | break19: Bastardized /ports |
| 23:44.02 | mjc | break19: don't get me started on gentoo politics or broken-ass layout |
| 23:44.08 | mjc | break19: or USE flags |
| 23:44.10 | Amadeo | Ubuntu's Nvidia drivers are old |
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| 23:44.14 | mjc | break19: former gentoo dev :P |
| 23:44.21 | Kaydeethree | <3 livna |
| 23:44.21 | break19 | mjc, use flags are a waste of time imho :p |
| 23:44.23 | mjc | Amadeo: on 7.10? |
| 23:44.31 | Amadeo | Yeah, I believe so anyway |
| 23:44.40 | break19 | I just set the cpu.. and away i go |
| 23:44.52 | mjc | break19: so you use things with the default functionality |
| 23:44.53 | break19 | but maybe things are different since I last used it |
| 23:44.53 | Amadeo | An easy way to install Nvidia drivers in Ubuntu is to use Envy, that tool some guy made |
| 23:45.00 | mjc | basically you are saying you don't need the primary feature of gentoo |
| 23:45.01 | break19 | mjc pretty much, yea |
| 23:45.03 | Amadeo | Linux Mint has that on install |
| 23:45.08 | mjc | and are just spinning CPU cycles for no reason at all |
| 23:45.14 | kebinusan | Its pretty easy to do via CLI once you are forced to a couple times |
| 23:45.21 | break19 | mjc: boredom.. :p |
| 23:45.27 | mjc | Amadeo: the ones in the latest release are outdated? |
| 23:45.38 | break19 | I havent used gentoo since summer of 05 |
| 23:45.40 | Kaydeethree | Amadeo, don't forget that most of the time it's illegal for distros to redistribute proprietary and patented stuff like that |
| 23:45.54 | Amadeo | mjc: Last I checked, unless it has changed |
| 23:45.55 | mjc | break19: so you are not actually touting any of gentoo's useful portions |
| 23:46.05 | mjc | Amadeo: feisty fawn is very recent |
| 23:46.17 | kebinusan | gaining an extra .5ms in execution time by spending hours compliling platform specific stuff? |
| 23:46.18 | Amadeo | mjc: Yeah, but being debian-based, nothing is very recent :P |
| 23:46.25 | mjc | Amadeo: very wrong |
| 23:46.25 | kebinusan | :-P |
| 23:46.31 | break19 | mjc: build it from scratch.. compile the code yourself.. those are what I liked |
| 23:46.48 | break19 | it made me feel useful. lol |
| 23:46.58 | break19 | but once I got this mac, I've never looked back |
| 23:47.02 | mjc | break19: if you are not using the flexibility of that then you are simply making your life more difficult for no reason |
| 23:47.06 | kebinusan | Measure to the micrometer, mark it in chalk, cut it with an axe |
| 23:47.13 | mjc | kebinusan: hear hear |
| 23:47.13 | Kaydeethree | ...but I'd like my binaries today, not in a week from now, kthx |
| 23:47.30 | break19 | oh, I did use flexibility of the useflags.. WHEN i needed em.. |
| 23:47.43 | Amadeo | mjc: I can't imagine people would still use Envy if Ubuntu's were up to date, but I don't know where to look now since I don't have it installed |
| 23:47.44 | break19 | kebinusan: as I said. boredom.. and I wanted to see if I could do it.. |
| 23:47.58 | mjc | break19: did you ever find a time when a non-fanatic non-gentoo didn't already have the functionality you neded? |
| 23:48.14 | kebinusan | You can pretty much find a distro to suit any specialized need you may have |
| 23:48.24 | mjc | Amadeo: ubuntu's current release's drivers are outdated right htis moment but maybe by two versions |
| 23:48.33 | break19 | mjc: I didnt like any other package management systems |
| 23:48.38 | Amadeo | mjc: What version is available? |
| 23:48.51 | mjc | break19: did you try ubuntu or debian or any other debian-based linux? |
| 23:48.57 | kebinusan | .deb isnt bad, though dselect can try your patience |
| 23:49.00 | break19 | yes |
| 23:49.01 | mjc | Amadeo: no idea, it has been two weeks since I checked. 100.something |
| 23:49.11 | break19 | used deb for 2 years... |
| 23:49.13 | mjc | kebinusan: aptitude has been around for a while |
| 23:49.25 | Amadeo | mjc: They must have updated it |
| 23:49.32 | Amadeo | I don't remember it being a 100 version |
| 23:49.33 | break19 | but wound up compiling most stuff myself and having to figure out what deps also needed to be updated |
| 23:49.51 | kebinusan | I always fall into old habits like using deselect |
| 23:50.00 | break19 | ew |
| 23:50.04 | break19 | dpkg |
| 23:50.20 | mjc | break19: so you compiled libc, X, etc by yourself on debian? |
| 23:50.45 | break19 | mjc: no.. I had search lots of places to find the .debs for the versions I wanted.. |
| 23:50.48 | mjc | of what |
| 23:51.06 | mjc | you haven't provided anything concrete |
| 23:51.10 | break19 | my problem with deb was the stuff was nearly a year old. |
| 23:51.20 | mjc | did you try unstable? |
| 23:51.22 | break19 | mjc.. dude.. its been 4+ years since I've used debian |
| 23:51.46 | Mecdemort | when you reload or logout, is OnDisable() called before the database is saved/outputted to the wtf file? |
| 23:51.49 | mjc | you haven't provided any concrete reason why gentoo was better either |
| 23:51.57 | break19 | mjc: I never said it was better |
| 23:52.03 | break19 | I said I *liked it* better :) |
| 23:52.15 | mjc | you didn't provide any reason for that either |
| 23:52.16 | mitch0 | FreeBSD pwns them all anyway |
| 23:52.21 | break19 | I dont need a reason |
| 23:52.30 | break19 | he likes chevy, I like ford.. |
| 23:52.33 | Amadeo | If Kubuntu were as polished as Ubuntu is, I'd probably choose that |
| 23:52.40 | mjc | just trying to help you draw a useful conclusion that actually fosters discussion instead of spouting off PR |
| 23:52.59 | mitch0 | there are perfectly valid reasons for hating debian |
| 23:53.02 | Amadeo | My biggest problem in Kubuntu is that nearly every time I try to open Adept, it freezes and doesn't load :P |
| 23:53.02 | break19 | mjc: tbh, I prefer darwin over all the *nix's |
| 23:53.10 | mjc | I don't prefer darwin |
| 23:53.15 | mjc | even though I use OSX |
| 23:53.23 | mjc | particularly not xnu |
| 23:53.23 | *** join/#wowace dylanm|dogwalk (n=dylanm@c-69-241-235-52.hsd1.mi.comcast.net) |
| 23:53.26 | mjc | xnu is a pain in the fucking ass |
| 23:53.32 | break19 | heh, yea |
| 23:53.47 | break19 | i'm gettin lazy :/ |
| 23:54.04 | mjc | walking around at kernel level in xnu is like playing baseball in a minefield |
| 23:54.18 | break19 | now that I got this mac... I've not really done much in the way of cli |
| 23:54.28 | mjc | so then you don't actually prefer darwin |
| 23:54.36 | mjc | you prefer OSX and it's gui stuff |
| 23:54.41 | break19 | yea.. I do.. cuz it runs my OS X and the others dont :p |
| 23:54.45 | mjc | and some of its cli tools |
| 23:55.54 | break19 | well.. hopefully I win the new comp this friday.. |
| 23:56.05 | mjc | you clearly have a fubar understanding of OSes period :P |
| 23:56.11 | break19 | i'm guaranteed to win 2 somethings |
| 23:56.20 | mjc | try installing the darwin CD some day |
| 23:56.23 | break19 | one of em is a new comp |
| 23:56.25 | Amadeo | break19: win me one also |
| 23:56.29 | break19 | Amadeo: no :p |
| 23:56.36 | Amadeo | mjc still owes me a Mac |
| 23:56.43 | break19 | its not a mac.. but its new |
| 23:56.46 | break19 | heh |
| 23:57.20 | Amadeo | how are you winning it? |
| 23:57.58 | break19 | well.. the wife entered me in a contest... if my name gets pulled I get a key.. if the key fits I get the car.. if not, I get 2 "consolation prizes".. well.. I got a key |
| 23:58.06 | break19 | I go friday to see if it fits |
| 23:58.13 | Amadeo | You sure it's not a scam? :P |
| 23:58.19 | break19 | yea |
| 23:58.26 | Amadeo | See, nahkiss entered that same contest |
| 23:58.28 | *** join/#wowace nahkiss (i=nahkiss@dsl-hkibras1-ff4dc300-7.dhcp.inet.fi) |
| 23:58.29 | Amadeo | look what happened to him! |
| 23:58.33 | break19 | lol |
| 23:58.46 | break19 | i've checked the place out.. |
| 23:59.00 | break19 | its a new, local resort, they tryin to drum up business |
| 23:59.19 | break19 | I gotta take a 90minute tour of the place, where no-doubt, they'll put on some hard sales pitches. |
| 23:59.24 | Amadeo | Ok, well, here's the deal |
| 23:59.29 | Amadeo | if you "win" a vacation package, just skip it |
| 23:59.36 | Amadeo | because that's what everyone wins :P |
| 23:59.36 | break19 | of course |
| 23:59.43 | Amadeo | and you pay! |
| 23:59.45 | break19 | i dont have time for vacations :p |
| 23:59.57 | Amadeo | You can put down WoW for a week! |
