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| 00:23.46 | orange\ | is there a mod that can keep track of private messages while your away, or afk... |
| 00:23.59 | orange\ | I hate having to scroll up 10 pages to see if anyone msg'd me |
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| 00:25.29 | Dustwhisper| | yes |
| 00:25.32 | Dustwhisper| | cant remember name though |
| 00:25.36 | orange\ | :> ahw |
| 00:25.46 | Gngsk | there's more than one |
| 00:26.00 | Gngsk | wobin wrote one that's a fubar plugin |
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| 00:27.27 | Bejitt | Antiarc|Work: _G.ChatFrame_MessageEventHandler = self.FilterChatMessage <-- setting global func to a class method? :o |
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| 00:28.19 | Antiarc | Hehe, yeah |
| 00:28.20 | Antiarc | Just fixed it |
| 00:28.23 | Antiarc | Debugging it now :) |
| 00:28.24 | Bejitt | :D |
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| 00:29.02 | Bejitt | was it the hidden args that breaks that? |
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| 00:29.51 | Antiarc | Nah, just some invalid reference crap |
| 00:30.00 | Bejitt | o.O |
| 00:31.50 | Thiana | Anyone know which .wdb/.mpq file contains the framexml? |
| 00:32.32 | Bejitt | uhmmm all of them? :D |
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| 00:33.41 | CIA-22 | 03antiarc * r44938 10WhisperBid/WhisperBid.lua: WhisperBid: Bugfixes |
| 00:33.59 | NeoTron | so I have this othr addon, which really is a fixed DKP bidding mod |
| 00:34.21 | NeoTron | it shows DKP available to ppl |
| 00:34.43 | NeoTron | maybe i could hack something to make it plug into WhisperBid :P |
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| 00:35.54 | Antiarc | Yes, look at the callback registry |
| 00:36.03 | Antiarc | afk, dinner |
| 00:37.37 | NeoTron | oh look at that, it's already there |
| 00:37.38 | NeoTron | handy |
| 00:38.08 | NeoTron | snazzy |
| 00:38.22 | Knaledge | ck apparently I'm grouped with your brother's wife |
| 00:38.49 | Diao | wtb fix for bosswhisperer so it doesn't send double messages when wim is installed ;x |
| 00:38.51 | Chaoslux | Sorry for this noob question: what means DKP? |
| 00:39.25 | Knaledge | ~DKP |
| 00:40.16 | NeoTron | Dragon Kill Points |
| 00:40.36 | NeoTron | sort of your salary for raiding that you use to buy phat lewtz with |
| 00:40.46 | RogueShadow | I never really asked what it meant, just knew what it was. |
| 00:41.08 | syeren | Does anyone work on Antagonist here :P? |
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| 00:41.20 | syeren | I'm trying to find out why every spell but Counterspell is included :/ |
| 00:41.27 | CIA-22 | 03fin * r44939 10Prat/Prat_Modules/modules/Alias.lua: (log message trimmed) |
| 00:41.27 | CIA-22 | Prat: Alias: |
| 00:41.27 | CIA-22 | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:41.27 | CIA-22 | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:41.27 | CIA-22 | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:41.30 | CIA-22 | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:41.32 | CIA-22 | <PROTECTED> |
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| 00:48.31 | xb95 | if not self.db.profile.active then return end |
| 00:48.33 | xb95 | do you need the end? oO |
| 00:48.50 | xb95 | n/m, i'll test |
| 00:49.43 | Fin | yes |
| 00:49.53 | xb95 | yeah, that's what my tests are revealing |
| 00:52.41 | CIA-22 | 03zuno * r44940 10UnitActionBars/ActionButton.lua: |
| 00:52.41 | CIA-22 | UnitActionBars: |
| 00:52.41 | CIA-22 | - Commented out "Show" call on the cooldown frame to address a client crash on Mac. Thanks to moniker for tracking this one down. |
| 00:54.29 | CIA-22 | 03xb95 * r44941 10xbRaidInvites/ (. Core.lua Libs/ readme.txt xbRaidInvites.toc): |
| 00:54.29 | CIA-22 | xbRaidInvites: initial commit |
| 00:54.29 | CIA-22 | - sends invites if people whisper the configurable keyword, handles raid conversion |
| 00:54.29 | CIA-22 | - (my first addon; short and simple but not done) |
| 00:55.10 | xb95 | not done meaning all the functionality I want isn't in there.. but the basic functionality is and works fine. |
| 00:55.20 | xb95 | (before someone says 'don't commit shit that doesn't work', lawl) |
| 00:55.45 | Gngsk | xb95, don't commit shit that doesn't work |
| 00:55.49 | xb95 | QQ |
| 01:08.00 | break19 | anyone feel like helping me figure out why I cant import my addon into the svn? I have my user/pass |
| 01:08.13 | break19 | I was able to commit to the sandbox just fine.. but not the real one.. |
| 01:08.26 | Arrowmaster | whats the error |
| 01:08.31 | break19 | svn: PROPFIND request failed on '/EnvenomX' |
| 01:09.52 | break19 | also.. does anyone have any suggestions on a good gui for macs? cli is bulky :p |
| 01:10.38 | break19 | prolly rapid.. havent tried that one yet |
| 01:11.14 | zac | break19: http://www.versionsapp.com/ |
| 01:12.00 | CIA-22 | 03xb95 * r44942 10xbRaidInvites/: |
| 01:12.00 | CIA-22 | xbRaidInvites: |
| 01:12.00 | CIA-22 | - update properties |
| 01:12.36 | break19 | zac: versions is your fav? |
| 01:12.47 | Arrowmaster | rapidsvn is crap |
| 01:12.51 | zac | I haven't used it yet, but it looks extremely promising |
| 01:13.03 | break19 | it aint ready yet |
| 01:13.08 | zac | Indeed! |
| 01:13.15 | zac | I haven't found a gui that I like yet, but that one might just take the cake |
| 01:13.34 | Arrowmaster | i prefer cli |
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| 01:14.28 | Bejitt | oooh that looks nice |
| 01:16.59 | pastamancer | I like SmartSVN for the mac |
| 01:18.58 | pastamancer | bah, versions isn't even released yet |
| 01:19.10 | zac | yeah. but it's the only app that holds hope of a good future! |
| 01:19.19 | pastamancer | tried SmartSVN? |
| 01:19.40 | zac | not a huge fan of java apps on mac :/ |
| 01:19.53 | pastamancer | it works well after you wait forever for it to start up |
| 01:20.13 | pastamancer | peronsally I use psvn for emacs |
| 01:20.18 | zac | `svn ci -m ""` works pretty well for me *shrug* |
| 01:20.29 | zac | emacs? |
| 01:20.39 | pastamancer | very much so |
| 01:20.44 | zac | i'm afraid of emacs! |
| 01:20.54 | pastamancer | M-x hugs |
| 01:23.22 | Arrowmaster | im not a huge fan of java apps on anything |
| 01:23.30 | Galka____ | Any bulkmail2 users in here? Specifically the Inbox |
| 01:23.42 | zac | eclipse and azureus run kind of well on windows |
| 01:23.58 | pastamancer | neither am I, but SmartSVN really is the best GUI subversion client I've used on OS X |
| 01:24.25 | Jaxon | Arrowmaster: Java has made leaps and bounds and isn't nearly as clunky as it used to be. |
| 01:25.01 | Wobwork | hurrah |
| 01:25.10 | Wobwork | I've found my new "Kill Command" alert sound |
| 01:25.30 | Arrowmaster | azureus is good compared to most other java apps |
| 01:25.31 | Wobwork | "Go for the eyes, Boo, GO FOR THE EYES! *squeek*" |
| 01:25.42 | Wobwork | Arrowmaster: That's not saying much =) |
| 01:25.46 | NeoTron | http://www.wowbash.com/index.php?a=img&id=157 |
| 01:25.46 | NeoTron | lol |
| 01:25.47 | Arrowmaster | true |
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| 01:27.35 | NeoTron | http://www.wowbash.com/index.php?a=img&id=261 <== omg that is MADE of win |
| 01:27.48 | NeoTron | I never knew there was a wow "version" of bash.org... |
| 01:28.07 | CIA-22 | 03break19 * r44943 10EnvenomX/ (. EnvenomX.toc core.lua libs/): EnvenomX -- Initial Commit - Uses Soar to show 'Envenom' at the best time |
| 01:28.16 | break19 | yay, finally |
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| 01:32.28 | Funkeh` | ok guys just finished making this wotcha think http://img249.imageshack.us/img249/3954/oorxa2.jpg |
| 01:34.49 | Wobwork | that's pretty cool |
| 01:34.57 | Wobwork | I like how you've got the fubars in the top right with icons |
| 01:35.26 | Jaxon | That is creative. |
| 01:35.52 | Funkeh` | spent the past 2 hours scrapped my old UI and made it :p |
| 01:36.21 | Funkeh` | old one http://img152.imageshack.us/img152/658/wowscrnshot070307011802ff8.jpg |
| 01:37.50 | Antiarc | Back from dinner. |
| 01:38.29 | Funkeh` | scrapped omen, pitbull, XRS, Xart and got eepanels and aguf |
| 01:40.05 | Jaxon | http://jaxon.ca/wowui.jpeg I need to redo mine. Move the chat frames right to the bottom of the screen and rearrange everything |
| 01:41.05 | xb95 | isn't there an ace mod for moving the tooltip? I can't find it -_- |
| 01:41.16 | Funkeh` | i think cowtip does tooltip stuff |
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| 01:41.27 | fireglow | Jaxon: whats your trinket addon? |
| 01:41.27 | Funkeh` | or tinytip |
| 01:42.25 | Funkeh` | lets get a little in raid preview |
| 01:42.29 | Funkeh` | AV will have to do |
| 01:42.48 | Antiarc | break19: Use Sink if you can |
| 01:42.52 | Antiarc | I'm planning on depricating Soar |
| 01:42.53 | Funkeh` | http://img402.imageshack.us/img402/9403/ircy4.jpg need to think about what to do with res/cd monitor |
| 01:43.17 | Jaxon | fireglow: that is Itemrack2 beta. |
| 01:43.32 | Funkeh` | i stuck grid under the fubar icons |
| 01:43.37 | Wobwork | Antiarc: depreciating Soar? |
| 01:43.47 | Antiarc | Yeah, Sink does everything that Soar does and some |
| 01:43.48 | Trancer | nice and clean UI Funkeh` |
| 01:43.59 | Antiarc | Basically, Sink is what Soar would be when I finished it :P |
| 01:44.08 | Antiarc | And there's no need for two addons that do the same thing |
| 01:44.36 | Wobwork | Isn't soar the Parrot stuff? |
| 01:44.51 | fireglow | Jaxon: ok |
| 01:44.53 | Funkeh` | thanks |
| 01:45.03 | Antiarc | Parrot/SCT/MSBT/Blizzard floating combat text, yes |
| 01:45.29 | Trancer | my UI basically.. 2 months ago, but hasn't changed much (well.. different addons) http://monastery.scarlet.nl/WoWScrnShot_051707_214037.png |
| 01:45.31 | Wobwork | Sink isn't.. short for.. like Kitchen Sink, is it? =P |
| 01:45.36 | Antiarc | Yes, it is :P |
| 01:45.38 | Wobwork | >< |
| 01:45.52 | Wobwork | What does it do? |
| 01:46.15 | Wobwork | nonspecific libraries ftl =P |
| 01:46.25 | Trancer | swallow stuff from your stomach when you drunk too much |
| 01:46.26 | Antiarc | Sink's the same thing as Soar |
| 01:46.31 | Antiarc | It's just more feature-complete |
| 01:46.43 | Wobwork | So why not call it Soar-2.0? |
| 01:46.54 | Antiarc | Because vhaarr wrote it? :P |
| 01:47.06 | Wobwork | And? =P |
| 01:47.12 | Antiarc | I wrote Soar |
| 01:47.12 | Kaydeethree | weren't there 3 versions of PT written by different people? |
| 01:47.17 | Antiarc | *shrug* |
| 01:47.19 | Wobwork | And BT |
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| 01:47.57 | Wobwork | Just seems unneccesarily confusing when you can just change the author tag and add in "Thx2Antiarx4SOAR" |
| 01:48.19 | Wobwork | We already have too many toosimilar libraries |
| 01:48.56 | Speeddymon | I noticed that the new version of Gatherer is out, which has a new version of nSideBar, but SVN doesn't have it updated.. Any chance I could get access to update it? |
| 01:49.11 | Wobwork | Doesn't Gatherer have their own SVN? |
| 01:49.25 | Antiarc | *shrug* |
| 01:49.28 | Antiarc | That's up to vhaarr |
| 01:49.56 | Wobwork | Bah, where's the bunny when you need to talk to him? |
| 01:49.59 | Trancer | hmm and an addon called SinkLin |
| 01:50.02 | Trancer | SinkLib |
| 01:50.04 | Speeddymon | im sure they do, but the code between their version and ours is identical.. |
| 01:50.19 | Trancer | or well a lib |
| 01:50.27 | Antiarc | Yes, SinkLib = Sink |
| 01:50.28 | Wobwork | Speeddymon: You'll have to apply for a login through the normal paths |
| 01:50.35 | Wobwork | check out the wiki |
| 01:50.36 | Trancer | ah |
| 01:50.49 | Wobwork | purl_ ? |
| 01:51.22 | Wobwork | /who purl |
| 01:52.26 | CIA-22 | 03cryect * r44944 10Relog/ (GUI_Table.lua Relog.lua parse.lua tags.lua units.lua): Relog - Enables autodeletion of old Unit Data now |
| 01:53.58 | Arrowmaster | if the codes identical whys it on two different svns? |
| 01:54.38 | Arrowmaster | should remove it from the one thats not getting updated |
| 01:55.16 | rubik | messing with pitbull for 1st time.. there a way to set global scaling of all the frames? they are huge++ |
| 01:55.28 | Keias | It's not really a scale |
| 01:55.29 | rubik | i can't find option anywhere; i swear i looked |
| 01:55.34 | Keias | Just change the height and width |
| 01:55.38 | Keias | lemme check if you can globally |
| 01:55.41 | rubik | i've got both at min (2) |
| 01:55.47 | rubik | they're still very huge |
| 01:56.01 | Demetrious | Does anyone here uses WoWHead (http://www.wowhead.com/)? |
| 01:56.15 | Keias | yeah, no global settings for dimensions :( |
| 01:56.54 | Speeddymon | the wiki says to talk to you guys to get access |
| 01:57.08 | rubik | oh, found it |
| 01:57.15 | Demetrious | Speeddymon: You must first do a quest. |
| 01:57.27 | rubik | All Units -> Other -> Size.. adjusts height of all bars.. whew |
| 01:58.01 | Speeddymon | nm i see it now |
| 01:58.05 | Speeddymon | i was loking in the wrong place |
| 01:58.26 | Arrowmaster | i dont see why something is on the wowace svn if its being developed on another svn and updated there |
| 02:00.31 | Gngsk | WAU |
| 02:00.41 | Arrowmaster | not a good reason |
| 02:01.16 | Arrowmaster | infact i was just looking at the code and putting nsidebar on the wowace svn could seriously break other mods due to the donglestub |
| 02:02.52 | break19 | Antiarc: gaaah you mean after I *just* figure out how to do this stuff, yer gonna throw me a wrench? baad anti.. no soup for you |
| 02:03.22 | Antiarc | It's easy |
| 02:03.32 | Antiarc | Just replace Soar with Sink and change the SendSoarMessage to Pour |
| 02:03.33 | Gagorian | Does an event trigger when cast sequence macro spell/icon changes? |
| 02:03.34 | break19 | and how the *hell* do I add externals to the thing? is there an easy way? |
| 02:04.03 | Antiarc | break19: What SVN client are you using? |
| 02:04.05 | Wobwork | checkout, set externals on local file, update |
| 02:04.17 | Wobwork | commit |
| 02:04.46 | break19 | Antiarc: I can use svnX, or rapidsvn or smartsvn |
| 02:05.10 | Antiarc | I only know the CLI and Tortoise, myself |
| 02:05.48 | Wobwork | there's no rightclick set properties in any of those? |
| 02:05.59 | Wobwork | rebootin time |
| 02:06.16 | syeren | Antiarc, you deal with the MMO-champion armory tool right? |
| 02:06.20 | Antiarc | Yup |
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| 02:06.33 | syeren | Doesn't work so well for me >_> |
| 02:06.37 | Antiarc | Elaborate? |
| 02:06.56 | syeren | atal error: Uncaught exception 'Exception' with message 'Unable to get node attributes; this likely means that we were unable to retrieve data for the entered realm/guild from the Armory. Please check your input and/or try again later.' in /home/mmo-champion/armory/_armory.php:112 Stack trace: #0 /home/mmo-champion/armory/arena_matchup.php(186): attribs(NULL) #1 /home/mmo-champion/armory/arena_matchup.php(230): writeComparisonTabl |
| 02:07.13 | syeren | Reckoning EU, Team 1: Opposed, Team2: GRAMMERPOLICE. |
| 02:07.15 | break19 | ok.. I think I got it now.. I didnt actually have the externals on my local copy at the first commit.. so I gotta put those, and then change em to externals? |
| 02:07.15 | syeren | Both exist ;p |
| 02:07.19 | Antiarc | Hrm. That should be handled more cleanly, but it probably means that something wwas entered wrong, or the armory is down |
| 02:08.05 | syeren | Well the team names are copy and pasted :p |
| 02:08.15 | Antiarc | GRAMMERPOLICE comes up fine, checking Opposed |
| 02:08.31 | Antiarc | http://armory.wow-europe.com/search.xml?searchQuery=Opposed&searchType=all |
| 02:08.34 | syeren | http://armory.wow-europe.com/arena-ladder.xml?b=Reckoning&ts=5 |
| 02:08.38 | Antiarc | Oh, that's characters |
| 02:08.54 | Antiarc | Hm, okay, that all comes up fine |
| 02:08.56 | Antiarc | Lemme go troubleshoot! |
| 02:09.17 | syeren | Maybe it's something to do with how the Armory has fucked up my team :/ |
| 02:09.18 | syeren | http://armory.wow-europe.com/team-info.xml?r=Dentarg&ts=5&t=Opposed&select=Opposed&fl=1 |
| 02:09.19 | syeren | -_- |
| 02:09.33 | syeren | You check my team on Geekboys and I don't even exist in it. |
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| 02:10.47 | ravagernl | Hey guys |
| 02:11.02 | zinor | http://downloads.cursebeta.com/ace/ |
| 02:11.05 | zinor | what do you guys think? :) |
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| 02:12.54 | Cryect | Just Ace mods that have the tag Ace or what? |
| 02:13.31 | Cryect | seems fine better than V2 and V3 of curse at least for browsing for stuff |
| 02:13.35 | zinor | ace/ace2 |
| 02:13.43 | zinor | but ya |
| 02:13.54 | zinor | its a special page I made since ace has a lot of stuff |
| 02:14.03 | Cryect | yeah makes sense |
| 02:14.14 | Arrowmaster | can curse get an 'dont show all those fucking gay ass complications' option |
| 02:14.18 | Cryect | heh didn't know there was that many cosmos stuff |
| 02:14.24 | Funkeh` | zinor: i thikn you should fix the blue post tracker! and give us true multiple authors for addons! :) |
| 02:14.29 | Cryect | you mean compilations? |
| 02:14.34 | Arrowmaster | yeah |
| 02:14.37 | Arrowmaster | i cant spell |
| 02:14.42 | zinor | ya going to add access levels to files |
| 02:14.46 | Cryect | heh well they might be complications also |
| 02:14.50 | zinor | Arrowmaster, they're seperated into categories now |
| 02:14.54 | zinor | compilations is seperated from addons |
| 02:15.01 | Arrowmaster | good |
| 02:15.08 | ravagernl | Anyone know any daily quest addon reminders? |
| 02:15.15 | Funkeh` | zinor: the 'hot today' is repeated twice in some addons |
| 02:15.21 | Funkeh` | SCT listed twice for e.g. |
| 02:15.22 | Arrowmaster | because that was about half of the stuff with the ace/ace2 tag lst version of curse |
| 02:15.23 | CIA-22 | 03antiarc * r44945 10WhisperBid/WhisperBid.lua: WhisperBid: Proxy bids working moar betterz now. |
| 02:15.57 | zinor | ya sec im fixing that |
| 02:16.01 | zinor | k reload :) |
| 02:16.31 | Funkeh` | cool |
| 02:16.37 | Funkeh` | so whats up wiht the blue post tracker |
| 02:16.43 | Funkeh` | the feed is working fine |
| 02:16.48 | Funkeh` | just clicking links |
| 02:17.38 | zinor | oh ya, ill go fix that now |
| 02:17.45 | Arrowmaster | i really want to know how ktm gets more than 20k downloads every single day |
| 02:18.16 | ravagernl | It's a requirement and most guilds haven't heard about Omen yet |
| 02:18.30 | syeren | "Get KTM or don't raid." |
| 02:18.32 | Jaxon | Arrowmaster: because it needs to be updated three times an hour to get shit straight. |
| 02:18.33 | syeren | Is pretty much how. |
| 02:18.41 | Jaxon | The developer takes his polling system too seriously |
| 02:18.42 | ravagernl | people having trouble installing etc (noobs) so they download again |
| 02:18.47 | Speeddymon | ok i emailed and signed.. what now? |
| 02:18.59 | Antiarc | wait for Kaelten to get around to making your account |
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| 02:19.08 | Wobwork | Speeddymon: wait for Kael... what Antiarc said |
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| 02:19.41 | Arrowmaster | rofl al'ar wipe, "die in a fire guys" over vent |
| 02:20.43 | Cryect | Arrowmaster: wait till you are on archimonde |
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| 02:25.06 | CIA-22 | 03break19 * r44946 10EnvenomX/libs/: EnvenomX (hopefully) fixed externals.. |
| 02:26.25 | Arrowmaster | player damage on mobs, and player damage on other players are different events right? |
| 02:26.55 | break19 | someone feel like looking over that and assuring me everything is ok? (other than the code, which Im sure is horrid) lol |
| 02:27.13 | break19 | however.. it does work as advertized.. usually :) |
| 02:27.15 | Antiarc | Sure, where is it? |
| 02:27.39 | break19 | svn.wowace.com/wowace/trunk/EnvenomX |
| 02:31.46 | Gagorian | Cryect: Haha yes. Die in a fire gets its real meaning there |
| 02:33.08 | Jaxon | We killed Al'ar last week and we haven't been in SSC yet. |
| 02:33.59 | Funkeh` | thats wrong |
| 02:34.09 | Jaxon | No, we are just lazy. |
| 02:34.53 | break19 | Antiarc: everything seem ok with the commit? |
| 02:34.55 | Jaxon | "You know, clearing to Void Reaver would be a lot more fun if we killed this bird along the way. Okay!" |
| 02:35.13 | Antiarc | Gimme a sec, working on my own stuff :) |
| 02:35.17 | break19 | k :) |
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| 02:35.52 | Bejitt | who's "in charge" of the wiki? |
| 02:37.08 | Antiarc | Kaelten, for the most part |
| 02:37.22 | Bejitt | mmmk |
| 02:37.39 | Bejitt | fixing some category mess |
| 02:38.41 | Antiarc | break19: Looks perfect. |
| 02:39.39 | Antiarc | break19: I don't think you need SpecialEvents-Aura though |
| 02:39.40 | break19 | Antiarc: excellent |
| 02:40.02 | break19 | Antiarc: hmm |
| 02:40.51 | break19 | im still trying to figure out which event is the best one to track poisons and combos |
| 02:41.10 | break19 | if I should track the poison applications, or the combo pt applications.. |
| 02:42.29 | Antiarc | I'd track CP |
| 02:42.32 | Antiarc | Actually |
| 02:42.34 | Antiarc | You need to track both |
| 02:42.45 | Antiarc | If you have 5 CP, then work up to 5 DP, it wouldn't trigger as-is |
| 02:43.48 | Jaxon | I got motivated enough to write my own addon the other day then I realized that there is no event for playermounted |
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| 02:44.27 | CIA-22 | 03antiarc * r44947 10WhisperBid/WhisperBid.lua: WhisperBid: Raid list now works. |
| 02:44.42 | Antiarc | Jaxon: Just look for an aura change, then test IsMounted() |
| 02:45.21 | ckknight | hey people |
| 02:45.22 | ckknight | back from work |
| 02:45.30 | Jaxon | Antiarc: IsMounted()! GENIUS. I didn't think to look for that. I was going to watch for buff changes then compare the buff to list of known mounts. |
| 02:45.31 | Kyahx | IsMounted() is nil if the aura change is fired via mount |
| 02:45.36 | Kyahx | or, its backwards |
| 02:45.49 | ckknight | lol, Knaledge met my sister-in-law |
| 02:46.10 | ckknight | purl, botmail to Knaledge: hehe, you met my sister-in-law |
| 02:46.27 | break19 | hmm, you're right anti.. I'm just trying not to use too many events and throw cpu thru the roof. |
| 02:46.52 | Antiarc | events are pretty CPU-friendly |
| 02:46.53 | RogueShadow | Doesn't matter, my roof is too low. |
| 02:46.54 | Antiarc | Relatively speaking |
| 02:46.59 | break19 | k |
| 02:47.13 | Antiarc | you aren't doing any iterations or anything, so it'll be quick |
| 02:47.45 | ckknight | xb95: can I strongly recommend not prefixing your addon with some identifier of your name? I find it a crass move, attribution should be placed elsewhere, especially on an addon that can be developed by multiple people or change hands later (e.g. oRA is now maintained by [Ammo], not otravi, thus the naming system is slightly flawed, imho) |
| 02:47.49 | break19 | so the event would be PLAYER_AURA_CHANGED ? |
| 02:47.58 | Antiarc | No, UNIT_AURA |
| 02:48.00 | break19 | does that fire when poisons get applied? |
| 02:48.01 | Antiarc | Since you're checking your target |
| 02:48.02 | break19 | kk |
| 02:48.25 | Antiarc | Check that UnitIsUnit("arg1", "target") |
| 02:48.33 | Antiarc | Err, arg1, no quotes |
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| 02:49.46 | break19 | anti: according to wowwiki playeraurachanged also tracks units? Called when a buff or debuff is either applied to a unit or is removed from the player. |
| 02:49.56 | xb95 | ckknight: bah! where were you when we were discussing this =) |
| 02:50.02 | ckknight | work |
| 02:50.07 | xb95 | fair enough |
| 02:50.11 | ckknight | because you people don't love me enough |
| 02:50.47 | Funkeh` | make a good mod and we will donate |
| 02:51.29 | Jaxon | Yeah, ckk needs to stop churning out trash mods that no one uses and make something useful. |
| 02:51.29 | Jaxon | ... |
| 02:52.05 | ravagernl | ckknight, If you are bored, consider writing a daily quest tracker, there are no addons for that function |
| 02:52.28 | ravagernl | you're probably not bored :P |
| 02:52.50 | ckknight | sorry, ravagernl, I'm not 70 yet |
| 02:52.53 | ckknight | no good way to test |
| 02:52.56 | ckknight | wanna play my char? |
| 02:52.57 | ckknight | :-P |
| 02:53.06 | Funkeh` | you can borrow mine |
| 02:53.08 | ckknight | only requisition is that you can't be chinese |
| 02:53.12 | ravagernl | you play a pally right |
| 02:53.25 | ckknight | sure do |
| 02:53.27 | Funkeh` | for a minor fee of £5 an hour |
| 02:53.28 | ckknight | lvl 41 |
| 02:53.38 | ravagernl | :o |
| 02:53.43 | jme | ckknight: can you make buffs line up on the right side of players in the pitbull raid frames? |
| 02:53.46 | ravagernl | don't have anything higher? |
| 02:53.58 | ckknight | jme: sorry, no |
| 02:54.01 | ckknight | ravagernl: nope |
| 02:54.04 | ckknight | ravagernl: I code too much, don't play much |
| 02:54.04 | jme | ckknight: ah, np |
| 02:55.00 | Funkeh` | besides, after parrt comes snail |
| 02:55.04 | Funkeh` | parrot* |
| 02:55.26 | ravagernl | snail? lol whats that gonna be then |
| 02:55.46 | Funkeh` | 'it will trail your combat log' |
| 02:55.53 | ravagernl | XD |
| 02:56.08 | Diao | lol |
| 02:56.08 | Diao | wtf |
| 02:57.27 | ckknight | trail? |
| 02:57.31 | ckknight | how do you mean? |
| 02:57.36 | Funkeh` | not sure |
| 02:57.40 | Funkeh` | need another word for scroll |
| 02:57.44 | ckknight | then why'd you say it? |
| 02:57.45 | ckknight | oh |
| 02:57.48 | ckknight | blah. |
| 02:57.53 | ckknight | it eats crackers. |
| 02:57.53 | ckknight | just accept it |
| 02:58.01 | Funkeh` | lol |
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| 02:59.26 | ravagernl | nah parrot eats crackers |
| 02:59.29 | Poul|Raider | lol fall asleep ahead of the computer |
| 02:59.32 | Poul|Raider | but anyway |
| 02:59.45 | Funkeh` | hey bibi |
| 02:59.53 | Poul|Raider | the range on /combatlog that havent been changeable all the time have it? |
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| 03:00.51 | Funkeh` | haha |
| 03:00.59 | Funkeh` | there will be a bear mount in Zul Aman |
| 03:01.09 | Funkeh` | im gonna ride yer bear |
| 03:02.32 | Diao | yes it has |
| 03:02.53 | Antiarc | break19: Yes, that's why you check arg1 |
| 03:03.01 | Antiarc | if UnitIsUnit(arg1, "target") then ... |
| 03:03.44 | Funkeh` | what are you checking? :) |
| 03:04.11 | break19 | ya. I figured that much.. i've just added a secondary function that replicates the first, which that event runs since the 1st one wont pass the target as arg1.. so itd mess up.. testing it now |
| 03:04.31 | break19 | I just gotta get somewhere I can fight stuff that I wont kill in 1-5 hits lol |
| 03:04.40 | NightHawkTheSane | "Hipster chick: The only comfort I have is that my mom likes her new boobs." <-- something I hope never to have the cause to say. |
| 03:04.52 | NightHawkTheSane | also, i totally <3 overheardinnewyork |
| 03:06.08 | Funkeh` | lol |
| 03:10.02 | Funkeh` | later folks |
| 03:10.15 | ckknight | well, cya all later |
| 03:11.37 | Jaxon | Is AddonLoader entirely passive? |
| 03:12.02 | Jaxon | Passive is the wrong term. install and forget is what I mean. |
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| 03:27.01 | break19 | GetPlayerBuffApplications("Deadly Poison") - shouldnt that return a number? if I have, say Deadly Poison VII x5 shouldnt it return 5? or no? |
| 03:27.40 | Antiarc | Maybe DebuffApplications? |
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| 03:29.09 | break19 | its supposed to do both buff and debuff, according to wowwiki.. im thinking on the player tho.. not the players target.. if so, then I've made a serious miscalculation on my code. lol |
| 03:30.27 | NightHawkTheSane | !api UnitDebuff |
| 03:30.31 | ThraeBot | NightHawkTheSane: name, rank, texture, count, debuffType, duration, timeLeft = UnitDebuff(unitID, debuffIndex [, removable]); -- http://www.wowwiki.com/API_UnitDebuff |
| 03:30.43 | NightHawkTheSane | "count" |
| 03:32.13 | break19 | ok.. now im confused.. I cant seem to see how to put count into a var.. |
| 03:32.37 | NightHawkTheSane | local _,_,_,count = UnitDebuff(foo, bar) |
| 03:33.02 | Arrowmaster | var = select(4,UnitDebuff(foo, bar) |
| 03:33.10 | break19 | ahh |
| 03:33.11 | Arrowmaster | var = select(4,UnitDebuff(foo, bar)) |
| 03:33.13 | break19 | select |
| 03:33.14 | NightHawkTheSane | or that, i guess. :P |
| 03:33.22 | NightHawkTheSane | I'm not particularly good with lua :) |
| 03:33.36 | Thrae | local name, rank, texture, count, debuffType, duration, timeLeft = UnitDebuff(unitID, debuffIndex [, removable]) -- just do this, easier then using _ |
| 03:34.12 | Thrae | They are all references anyway, so it's not like a special object is created and then destroyed each time |
| 03:34.15 | break19 | ohh, so I'm gonna have to iterate through the buffs to find the deadlys? |
| 03:34.22 | NightHawkTheSane | break19: yes |
| 03:34.35 | break19 | yuck |
| 03:34.40 | break19 | i was hoping to avoid that |
| 03:34.42 | NightHawkTheSane | Thrae: well, ignoring using select, I'd use _'s for variables i don't intend to use just to indicate that i don't, in fact, intend to us them. |
| 03:34.55 | Thrae | Making locals like this do not really add to resource usage |
| 03:35.01 | NightHawkTheSane | but that's really purely style |
| 03:35.26 | Thrae | NightHawkTheSane: True. I was just suggesting he take all the returns since he's new to using the function, and he might need some of the other returns at some point. |
| 03:35.32 | NightHawkTheSane | *nod* |
| 03:35.40 | Thrae | Make It Work First, Optimization Second |
| 03:35.43 | break19 | so.. I'd have to do a for 1 to 40 loop... |
| 03:35.51 | Arrowmaster | break19: check out special events aura, it fires event when debuffs change and i think gives count now, might also tell you if its your own debuff |
| 03:36.08 | break19 | arrow. yea.. lemme browse it |
| 03:36.31 | NightHawkTheSane | yeah, seea probably has a bunch of stuff you can use for what you're doing |
| 03:37.32 | Gagorian | break19: Yeah SEA has stuff like SEA:UnitHasDebuff(unitID, "buff name") which returns all you need |
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| 03:38.06 | break19 | excellent.. now.. time to see how to actually reference em.. browsing... |
| 03:38.15 | Gagorian | Also has iterators for all buffs/debuffs |
| 03:38.30 | Gagorian | Well, not sure if the API is in teh wiki due to the... THING. |
| 03:38.48 | break19 | it isnt *cry* |
| 03:39.30 | break19 | where might I find some docs for sea? |
| 03:39.41 | kergoth | omen tps update frequency, is higher more often? |
| 03:39.51 | CIA-22 | 03cryect * r44948 10Relog/ (GUI_Table.lua LogWindow.lua Relog.lua parse.lua tags.lua): Relog - Fixes several bugs causing data not to display |
| 03:39.55 | Antiarc | That's in sec |
| 03:39.58 | Antiarc | So lower is more frequent |
| 03:40.11 | kergoth | ah, cool |
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| 03:40.36 | kergoth | antiarc: "grow upward" doesnt seem to do anything at all :P |
| 03:41.20 | Antiarc | It does, it's just buggy. It'll work if you toggle it again, I think |
| 03:41.24 | kergoth | on another note, http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info7391-Dash.html kicks ass - http://gallery.kergoth.com/v/wow/dashboardedui1.jpg.html - http://gallery.kergoth.com/v/wow/dashboardedui1-dash.jpg.html |
| 03:41.25 | Antiarc | If not, toggle it then move the window a bit |
| 03:41.30 | kergoth | k, will try that |
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| 03:41.49 | xb95 | 6% morogrim makes me cry |
| 03:42.10 | NeoTron | Antiarc: ok so if I do a proxy bid, and no other bids, it doesn't register any bids. also I can't seem to bid myself either |
| 03:42.37 | Antiarc | Mmm. Seems to work here. An opening proxy bid bids 1 for me. |
| 03:42.39 | Gagorian | break19: I found it earlier on wayback machine but it seems gone |
| 03:42.48 | NeoTron | it says it registers but in the end doesn't actually |
| 03:43.02 | NeoTron | perhaps related to me not beind able to bid myself? |
| 03:43.16 | NeoTron | ah.. works in raid not in party |
| 03:43.30 | break19 | nice.. dashboard for wow |
| 03:43.42 | Gagorian | break19: UnitHasDebuff(unit, name) returns index, count, icon, rank |
| 03:43.52 | Antiarc | Ah, okay, I'll test that |
| 03:43.52 | Gagorian | index being non nil if it exists |
| 03:44.21 | Diao | wait so |
| 03:44.29 | Diao | with the dashboard up your entire screen darkens? |
| 03:45.17 | break19 | Gagorian: thnx so basically... var = select(2,UnitHasDebuff("target", "Deadly Poison")) would be 0 if none? |
| 03:46.15 | kergoth | Diao, its mainly to hold things you dont need to look at all the time, it shades out the rest of the screen so to make it obvious its up. i suggested to kyahx that we be able to set the alpha and/or color tint of the screen when its up. its pretty nifty |
| 03:46.24 | Gagorian | break19 it will be nil |
| 03:46.26 | kergoth | hmm |
| 03:46.35 | Kyahx | :) |
| 03:46.42 | Gagorian | break19: Remember though that that is localized |
| 03:46.51 | Thrae | break19: Note that select gives you not just 1 of the returns, but ALL of them after the index. Example: function foo() return "a","b","c","d","e" end; foo() <-- returns a,b,c,d,e select(2,foo()) <-- returns b,c,d,e |
| 03:46.55 | NeoTron | ah it doesn't do a dkp check before accepting a proxy bid |
| 03:46.56 | kergoth | i just love simple little addons that make things substantially nicer |
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| 03:47.14 | Gagorian | break19: So you will need to use either babble-spell or translate deadly poison yourself |
| 03:47.37 | break19 | so if I do var = UnitHasDebuff("target", "Deadly Poison"), then var.count would be the count.... right? |
| 03:47.50 | Gagorian | no :f |
| 03:47.54 | break19 | gah |
| 03:48.04 | Gagorian | that just stores the first variable |
| 03:48.10 | break19 | tryin to learn is giving me a headache. lol |
| 03:48.10 | Thrae | break19: local name, rank, texture, count, debuffType, duration, timeLeft = UnitDebuff(unitID, debuffIndex [, removable]) -- just do this, it's very easy and simple |
| 03:48.26 | Gagorian | (different function Thrae) |
| 03:48.34 | Thrae | Ah |
| 03:48.41 | break19 | thrae.. ok.. and that'd assign different variables for all of them right? |
| 03:48.53 | Gagorian | so local index, count, icon, rank = SEA:UnitHasDebuff(unit, name) |
| 03:49.00 | break19 | got it |
| 03:49.17 | Gagorian | then you can check if index then DoStuff(count) end |
| 03:49.17 | break19 | Gagorian: if I leave off the rank, it'll work, right? |
| 03:49.26 | Thrae | break19: Yes, if you do local a,b,c,d,e = foo(), where foo returns up to 5 things, then a,b,c,d,e will contain up to 5 things |
| 03:49.35 | Gagorian | if you only need index and count, you can do local index, count = SEA:... |
| 03:49.38 | break19 | like "Deadly Poison" instead of "Deadly Poisin X" (or whatever) |
| 03:49.47 | Gagorian | Umm no |
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| 03:50.08 | Gagorian | You need to check for all different ranks cause the debuff names are unique |
| 03:50.14 | break19 | Thrae: thnx.. |
| 03:50.26 | break19 | Gagorian: is there no way to "wildcard" it? |
| 03:50.37 | Gagorian | Not with that function |
| 03:51.10 | Gagorian | Then you should use DebuffIter |
| 03:51.29 | break19 | i really appreciate ya'll takin the time to help an old dog learn new tricks.. seriously.. thought I'd throw that in right there |
| 03:51.32 | zinor | k there you go :) |
| 03:51.33 | zinor | http://news.curse.com/details/2524/ |
| 03:51.47 | Gagorian | for buffName, apps, _, texture, rank, index in SEA:DebuffIter("target") do |
| 03:51.53 | morggin | do you guys do anything with regards to Emulating WoW ? |
| 03:51.59 | Antiarc | Nope. |
| 03:52.02 | Gagorian | if string.find( buffName, "Deadly Poison" ) then |
| 03:52.03 | Gagorian | blablabla |
| 03:52.43 | break19 | it'd be a little easier if someone could give me SEA's api so I could peruse it :) |
| 03:53.02 | CIA-22 | 03antiarc * r44949 10WhisperBid/WhisperBid.lua: WhisperBid: Fix for bidding in parties |
| 03:53.09 | Gagorian | break19: Well it's gone |
| 03:53.15 | break19 | i know :/ |
| 03:53.56 | Gagorian | for buffName, apps, _, texture, rank, index in SEA:DebuffIter("target") do |
| 03:53.56 | Thrae | zinor: No offense, but that's a silly idea. |
| 03:54.00 | Gagorian | but that's basically i |
| 03:54.01 | Gagorian | *it |
| 03:54.22 | Thrae | zinor: Although it's nice to see you talking in a channel for the first time in 5 months. |
| 03:54.34 | Gagorian | first return is name, count, dispelltype, texture, rank, index |
| 03:54.38 | Gagorian | just use them |
| 03:54.46 | Antiarc | break19: http://wowace.com/wiki/SpecialEvents-Aura-2.0 |
| 03:55.00 | break19 | woo, its back |
| 03:55.08 | Antiarc | Hooray for autogenerated doc |
| 03:55.08 | Gagorian | Antiarc: Only problem it's missing most of the stuff |
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| 03:55.12 | Diao | anyone know how to fix bosswhisperer so it doesn't send 2 pms when using wim? |
| 03:55.18 | Antiarc | At least you have the function signatures though |
| 03:55.22 | break19 | kinda :p |
| 03:55.36 | break19 | thats more than I -was- seeing :) |
| 03:55.43 | Gagorian | Yeah, just need returns :) |
| 03:56.29 | Thrae | I wonder how SEA is doing these days...used to be a huge mess |
| 03:56.30 | zinor | Thrae, some people thought it was good, you could already browse by tag, but couldn't see which were popular/etc. really easily |
| 03:56.36 | zinor | afk, supper |
| 03:58.04 | Thrae | zinor: Oh, well if this is sorting tags by popularity, that makes sense. But the popularity should be tied to the addon, not the tag itself. There's no meaning tying a tag with a popularity rating, as that'll probably disappoint people as much as it'll help them -- there are tons of "Ace" addons (especially off the SVN) which just plain suck. Cosmos has that problem too. |
| 03:58.33 | Gagorian | Antiarc: Woah, I didn't even know SEA had GetPlayerMainHandItemBuff() :p |
| 03:58.44 | Antiarc | Now you do! :P |
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| 04:01.03 | Gagorian | What's the point of enclosing function listings in do ... end in the main scope? |
| 04:01.40 | ag` | so like, everything that's inside do ... end is private.. or something |
| 04:01.52 | Thrae | Gagorian: Scoping |
| 04:02.16 | Thrae | Someone needs to change the author of SEA, the code has changed so much it's not really "Tekkub's baby" anymore...and I doubt he wants it to be ;) |
| 04:02.26 | break19 | heh |
| 04:02.34 | Gagorian | But there's also two supposedly global functions there |
| 04:02.42 | ZealotOnAStick | Whee. Playing with Najentus. |
| 04:03.06 | Gagorian | I just dont see the point unless you want to use the same variablenames? |
| 04:03.39 | ag` | it can prevent you from screwing with stuff you don't want to screw with by accident, dunno |
| 04:04.50 | Thrae | Yep, as I thought, SEA-2.0 does a huge bunch of crap it doesn't need to do. A lot of it would be fixed by only registering for events the addon actually needs. |
| 04:06.15 | Wobwork | Thrae: can you fix it? |
| 04:06.36 | Wobwork | It would kind of need extra registration from the addon then, wouldn't it? |
| 04:07.33 | Thrae | Gagorian: Well, with a do...end scope, you can do something like "local seenBuffs, seenDebuffs = {}, {}" in the do...end, and these tables will exist inside the functions they are used in, the references to them won't exist elsewhere. This can open up a lot more variable naming space, in case you have use for these names elsewhere. |
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| 04:09.01 | Gagorian | I guess, I would just use unique variables everywhere for clarity |
| 04:09.09 | Thrae | Wobwork: No, SEA-2.0 already uses TriggerEvent, so there's no reason it shouldn't spout out events when not needed. Although in some cases, the event names may have to change to be more specific -- in that case, the API would change. |
| 04:09.44 | Thrae | Wow, that was like a triple negative. |
| 04:10.10 | Arrowmaster | doesnt an event get called when an aceaddon registers an event? |
| 04:10.31 | Thrae | Arrowmaster: Yeah, I actually asked ckknight to add it into AceEvent's messaging system when I was working on Parser-2.0 |
| 04:11.02 | Arrowmaster | i thought there was but the aceevent api got blown away by the autodoc |
| 04:11.14 | Thrae | I don't think many libraries use it, but they should. It would save a ton of potentional processing power. |
| 04:11.54 | Thrae | Well, it should be there unless ckknight took it out for some unknown reason. |
| 04:12.01 | NM|Xinhuan | or you can choose not to use ace2. |
| 04:12.09 | NM|Xinhuan | and write your own efficient functions |
| 04:12.19 | Arrowmaster | yeah for something like SEEA, it would make it more complex but make it do less when not needed |
| 04:13.01 | Thrae | Arrowmaster: Only because of the way SEA-2.0 is written...it's all a merge of Tekkub's and other styles together |
| 04:13.06 | Arrowmaster | NM|Xinhuan: and you miss the entire point by potentially using double the processing power |
| 04:13.09 | Gagorian | NM|Xinhuan: Well that was slightly random. It is way more efficient to have buff/debuff processing done by a single library |
| 04:13.10 | Thrae | Some libs lend to it better then others |
| 04:13.19 | NM|Xinhuan | ;p |
| 04:13.42 | Thrae | Gagorian: It is *potentionally* more efficient. All depends on what the various addons are looking for. |
| 04:13.44 | Gagorian | Since buff/debuff processing isn't the lightest thing due to constant changes, several addons doing it on their own would be far worse |
| 04:14.05 | Gagorian | Thrae: True |
| 04:14.09 | NM|Xinhuan | but that really depends on how many addons are doing buff processing |
| 04:14.16 | break19 | someone remind me how to use a variable inside a string? like. in bash I would simply just echo "String: " $VAR and if var was 5, it'd say String: 5 |
| 04:14.44 | Thrae | break19: You concatonate. Easiest way == "foo" .. bar .. "moo" |
| 04:14.59 | Thrae | break19: You should read the pil. |
| 04:14.59 | Arrowmaster | or you could string.format() |
| 04:15.00 | Thrae | ~pil |
| 04:15.01 | purl | well, pil is Programming in Lua. The first edition is available free online at http://www.lua.org/pil and covers Lua 5.0. The second edition is available in hardcover and covers Lua 5.1. |
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| 04:15.11 | break19 | Thrae: yea... I've tried. :p |
| 04:15.36 | Thrae | break19: If the variable can be nil, then use "foo" .. tostring(bar) .. "moo" |
| 04:16.02 | break19 | and that'd return foobarmoo i'm assuming |
| 04:16.08 | NM|Xinhuan | i mean, how many addons do you know of that do buff processing? |
| 04:16.21 | Arrowmaster | a lot |
| 04:16.21 | Gagorian | Shitloads |
| 04:16.44 | NM|Xinhuan | only ones that need to do it are unit frames, and perhaps itemrack-type mods? |
| 04:16.50 | Arrowmaster | wrong |
| 04:16.53 | Thrae | break19: No, tostring(var) converts the value of var into a string. So if the value of var is 1, then it becomes "1". If it's "bar", then it stays "bar". If it's nil, then it becomes "nil". |
| 04:17.04 | break19 | Thrae: thats what I meant |
| 04:17.14 | break19 | i just phrased my ? wrong *duh me* |
| 04:17.21 | Gagorian | Even simple addons that doesn't seem to need buff processing might check a buff here and there |
| 04:17.31 | Gagorian | Timer addons, bossmods |
| 04:17.54 | Arrowmaster | threat meters |
| 04:17.55 | Gagorian | unit frames, all kinds of rogue poison assists etc |
| 04:18.20 | Gagorian | My addon (DrDamage) relies very heavily on buff/debuff processing |
| 04:19.05 | NM|Xinhuan | seems kinda unnecessary, a lot of it can be processed by combat log |
| 04:19.11 | Arrowmaster | wrong |
| 04:19.11 | NM|Xinhuan | xyz is afflicted by ____ |
| 04:19.24 | Thrae | Gagorian: And as it stands right now, unless you're bad at coding in WoW / don't want to learn how to check auras efficiently, SEE will be *worse* then what you can tailor specifically for your addon, even if other addons use the same framework. It's very hard to make a generic framework which always give a performance boost. |
| 04:19.53 | break19 | gag, that reminds me.. my pally is having an occassional error with drdamage.. I dont have it pasteyd at the moment.. but gimme a minute and I can get it for ya |
| 04:20.05 | Gagorian | Yar get it plx |
| 04:20.18 | Gagorian | Thrae: On single addon basis of course |
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| 04:20.26 | Thrae | Gagorian: No, not on a single addon basis. |
| 04:21.46 | Gagorian | Well, it's stupid imo to consider using my own aura checking since SEA will most likely still be loaded by most of my users |
| 04:21.53 | Gagorian | And doing its processing |
| 04:22.08 | Thrae | Gagorian: If 5 basic addons need 5 specific things done, even if they overlap somewhat, you can probably get the same or better performance making a very tight algorithmn for those 5 basic addons. Something like Omen, or DrDamage do EVERYTHING, so they're an exception -- they'll use pretty much ALL of a lib because of how massive their scope is. |
| 04:23.08 | Gagorian | Yeah, but that's the case with most libraries |
| 04:24.20 | Gagorian | SEA could be more efficient for sure, but its decent at least. |
| 04:24.37 | Gagorian | Someone could of course take it up as a project to clean it up and bump the version |
| 04:24.52 | Gagorian | But well, I have enough to do with my own addon :p |
| 04:24.54 | Thrae | Gagorian: Which is why the main reason for the existance of libraries is ease of coding, not performance enhancement. They try to enhance performance, but their main objective is just making things easier for the developers (and easier collaborative development). |
| 04:26.29 | Gagorian | Indeed. It's not easy to say in what cases libraries actually lead to a performance increase but at least using a wide range of addons Ace2 does reduce static memory cost |
| 04:27.28 | break19 | I think its fixed now... testing |
| 04:27.34 | CIA-22 | 03xb95 * r44950 10xbRaidInvites/ (. Core.lua RaidInviteHelper.toc readme.txt xbRaidInvites.toc): |
| 04:27.34 | CIA-22 | xbRaidInvites: |
| 04:27.34 | CIA-22 | - renaming to RaidInviteHelper on ckknight's recommendation (the folder rename will come next) |
| 04:28.42 | Thrae | Gagorian: Actually, that's not true either. Most addons don't use even near 100% of the Ace2 libs they include. But if you have a bunch of addons, most likely you will be using 100%. However, of the addons that don't use parts of Ace2, most times there are little things that lay around in memory in case they're needed, which Ace2 can't get rid of because of the way its coded. |
| 04:28.58 | Wobwork | Anyone use HeyFu? |
| 04:29.37 | Thrae | Gagorian: Not to mention it's very easy to misuse Ace2's attempt at lower resource usage, basically killing what the other addons try to save. |
| 04:30.19 | Thrae | Wobwork: I love HeyFu! |
| 04:30.37 | Wobwork | Are you willing to test some drycode for a DoNotDisturb function? =) |
| 04:30.56 | Thrae | Wobwork: I haven't been able to login for a while. |
| 04:30.59 | Thrae | !l us maelstrom thrae |
| 04:31.01 | CIA-22 | 03break19 * r44951 10EnvenomX/core.lua: EnvenomX - rewrote my poison detection scheme.. Cleaned up code somewhat |
| 04:31.04 | Wobwork | Basically a toggleable HeyFuSecretary |
| 04:31.05 | ThraeBot | Thrae: Thrae's last login date is listed as March 28, 2007 on the Armory. [[ Link: http://tinyurl.com/2nf4c2 ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/3y7gvx ]] |
| 04:31.07 | Wobwork | =( |
| 04:31.18 | Wobwork | Thrae: oh that sucks =\ |
| 04:31.21 | Gagorian | Thrae: Well, you're focusing more on how a single addon benefits from being Ace2, I'm more focused on a user that uses nearly all Ace2. |
| 04:31.35 | Thrae | Gagorian: No, actually I'm focusing on the opposite. |
| 04:31.58 | Wobwork | It's more the number of addons out there that use libraries willynilly |
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| 04:32.19 | Wobwork | ie, sometimes it's better to write your own code than use 5% of a library |
| 04:32.36 | Thrae | Antagonist uses 16 libraries *shudders*, and it's a very popular addon. |
| 04:32.38 | Wobwork | Sure, there may be some other addon out there that uses the other 95%, but you can't ever depend on that |
| 04:33.01 | CIA-22 | 03xb95 * r44952 10/trunk/ (RaidInviteHelper/ xbRaidInvites/): |
| 04:33.01 | CIA-22 | RaidInviteHelper: |
| 04:33.01 | CIA-22 | - move xbRaidInvites -> RaidInviteHelper |
| 04:33.05 | NM|Xinhuan | someone should do a survey, i believe most wow users don't use exclusively only ace2 addons |
| 04:33.16 | break19 | Wobwork: im guessing mine should be written using 100% my own code.. and I prolly will at some point, with the exception of soar (which will be moved to sink at the appropiate time) heh |
| 04:33.16 | Wobwork | of course not |
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| 04:33.57 | Wobwork | break19: if you can't use the majority of the library in your code, then yeah, it's better to either go for a smaller library, write your own, or get the original library broken down into smaller ones |
| 04:34.32 | Thrae | Gagorian: Let's take this example about working with Ace2 -- somewhere along the way, AceOO became necessary for all "mixins" like AceEvent, AceHook, AceLocale, etc. However, the actual "mixin" process is extremely trivial. How many addons actually even 2% of what AceOO provides? |
| 04:34.46 | Wobwork | That's very true |
| 04:34.56 | break19 | now for my final trick: making my sticky soar message actually sticky... |
| 04:35.05 | Antiarc | If even one does use most of AceOO, then AceOO is effectively free for the rest, though |
| 04:35.18 | Gagorian | Exactly Antiarc |
| 04:35.26 | Gagorian | I dont care if some of my small addon uses 1% of SEA |
| 04:35.28 | Wobwork | Can you guarantee that? |
| 04:35.35 | Thrae | Antiarc: But, which addon -does- use AceOO? |
| 04:35.36 | Gagorian | Since I have addons that use the full of it |
| 04:35.47 | Wobwork | Most of mine do |
| 04:35.49 | Antiarc | Thrae: Anything that uses objects. Pitbull and Bartender come to mind |
| 04:36.02 | Gagorian | A small addon can rely on common libraries even if they |
| 04:36.12 | NM|Xinhuan | but that's what you are assuming - you assume other users will have such an addon - can that assumption be proved? |
| 04:36.14 | Gagorian | aren't using them to the fullest |
| 04:36.22 | Wobwork | And that's the crux of the argument |
| 04:36.27 | break19 | self:SoarNotify("Envenom!", 1, 1, 0, nil, 16, "THICKOUTLINE", sticky, "NOTIFY") - theoretically that should make my Envenom sticky... and in parrot, it should be big and "wobble" like other stickys.. yet it doesnt? is this a problem with my code, with soar's code? |
| 04:36.39 | Antiarc | NM|Xinhuan: I don't assume it at all. Omen's 2.3 MB of RAM if it's the only Ace addon you use, and I readily acknowledge that. |
| 04:36.51 | Wobwork | There is no way you can assume that a user will have enough addons to justify the coverage of the usage of the library |
| 04:36.53 | Antiarc | But, the real-life use case is that most people have many overlapping Ace libraries |
| 04:36.55 | Gagorian | I'm not saying that use a library instead of 5 lines of code, but basically if there's some stuff that |
| 04:36.59 | Thrae | Antiarc, Gagorian: Right, so let's say there are 5 addons which use most of AceOO. And then there are 150 addons which use the regular 1% requirement of AceOO to use AceEvent, AceHook, etc. That means you have a 5/150 chance of using all of AceOO. |
| 04:37.33 | Antiarc | I'm not arguing for "use libraries when non-lib code is warranted" |
| 04:37.48 | Antiarc | I'm just saying that "You don't use all of the lib" isn't a valid reason to not use the lib |
| 04:37.51 | Gagorian | runs pretty often, small addons can rely on the library even if they don't use a big portion of the 'overhead' as long as it's a common library |
| 04:38.12 | Wobwork | Thrae: That actually doesn't work =) Once you have an addon that uses 100% of AceOO, you've justified the use of AceOO =) |
| 04:38.15 | break19 | Gagorian: ok, now that mine is working properly.. im loggin in my pally |
| 04:38.43 | Thrae | Wobwork: Well like I said, you'd need to have one of 5 addons out of 150... |
| 04:39.00 | Gagorian | Which usually are major/popular addons? |
| 04:39.09 | Wobwork | But you can't count on that |
| 04:39.19 | Wobwork | just cause they're major/popular doesn't mean the user will use it |
| 04:39.26 | Thrae | You can't count on the lib being used by some popular addon |
| 04:39.50 | Thrae | Antiarc: I would say it's a very valid reason -- if people aren't using your lib because it does too much, then probably the lib needs to be restructured. |
| 04:39.51 | Wobwork | The only lib you can really count on being used, is AceLibrary |
| 04:39.54 | NM|Xinhuan | Thrae: "However, the actual "mixin" process is extremely trivial." is is possible to rewrite those "trivial" things? |
| 04:40.17 | Thrae | NM|Xinhuan: Not without making it Ace3.0 |
| 04:41.46 | Gagorian | Well, not every user can win.. But I don't see harm in making a mostly Ace2 package being more efficient than focusing on users that use one or two Ace2 addons |
| 04:42.28 | Antiarc | The entire premise of the Ace2 library structure is the assumption that mods share overlapping tasks |
| 04:42.38 | Gagorian | That's the idea, the more addons relying on the same libraries and efficiently ending up using 100% of the libraries |
| 04:42.46 | Gagorian | Will be more efficient in the end |
| 04:42.46 | Thrae | Gagorian: Well that's actually the very worst thing you can say, in my opinion. Making a "Mostly Ace2 compliation" for the main reason of "better performance" is so very, very wrong. |
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| 04:43.36 | Gagorian | Thrae: I don't see your point. It should be rather obvious that using more addons that rely on the same libraries will be lower memory cost/better efficieny in theory? |
| 04:43.46 | NM|Xinhuan | i remember gmail was just a line-by-line translation of ctmailmod to ace2 |
| 04:43.59 | NM|Xinhuan | it didn't actually improve performance in any way lol! |
| 04:44.24 | Gagorian | But that was just because people wanted it "Aced" |
| 04:44.26 | NM|Xinhuan | memory usage of addons isn't really a good argument these days, most ppl have 1 gb-2gb ram |
| 04:44.30 | break19 | Gagorian: gah.. now I cant get the error to appear.. lol |
| 04:44.33 | NM|Xinhuan | its CPU processing time that matters more |
| 04:45.06 | NM|Xinhuan | i've yet to see wow use more than 600 mb ram |
| 04:45.19 | NM|Xinhuan | that's from process explorer/task manager |
| 04:45.58 | Thrae | Gagorian: In theory, yes. However, using Ace2 or libs coded for AceLibrary does not automatically make an addon any better. It's the code in the actual addon, and the use of the frameworks provided, that make the most difference, by far. As said, CPU Processing time is the main factor in how well an addon behaves. Memory usage is trivialized by garbage collection, which in turn is part of CPU processing time. |
| 04:46.27 | break19 | NM|Xinhuan: on my system, wow is using 299M of ram, and 484M of virtual memory |
| 04:46.53 | NM|Xinhuan | break19: how much physical ram do you have? |
| 04:47.05 | break19 | 1gig |
| 04:47.09 | Gagorian | Thrae: I agree on that completely. That's however a different thing than what we talked about earlier. |
| 04:47.19 | Gagorian | The user who only needs one simple addon to his standard UI |
| 04:47.48 | NM|Xinhuan | you shoulsn't be looking at the "virtual size" column |
| 04:47.50 | Gagorian | Will most definately have worse performance by using an addon that doesn't rely heavily on it's Ace2-libraries |
| 04:48.09 | Gagorian | But that's really nothing we can do about |
| 04:48.16 | Thrae | WoW uses as much memory as you allow it (to a point), and there are settings to increase and decrease the amount of memory it uses. I'd say 2GB is the tipping point, where beyond that, the performance increases you see aren't nearly as large. |
| 04:48.25 | Gagorian | s/can do/can do anything/ |
| 04:48.45 | Thrae | Gagorian: Again, that |
| 04:49.03 | Thrae | Gagorian: I don't see how what that has anything to do with what I just said. I was talking about compliations and "packages". |
| 04:49.14 | NM|Xinhuan | maybe we should go back to asking why Ace was invented? |
| 04:50.55 | Thrae | There's absolutely nothing wrong with using Ace2. For many authors, it probably isn't worth the time for an addon developer to try and do what Ace2 does better then how Ace2 does it, unless the author is serious about improving their basic understanding of Lua itself. |
| 04:52.04 | Thrae | It's the old "Ace2 Compliations are better then everything else because they're Ace2", or "Ace2 compliations are at a huge advantage already because of Ace2" which people have a misunderstanding on. |
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| 04:52.47 | Gagorian | Well if you think I said that then you misunderstood me |
| 04:52.50 | Thrae | In fact, it's plain disrepectful. A ton of Ace2 addons are good not mainly because of Ace2, but mainly because of the author's own blood, sweat, and tears. It has absolutely nothing to do with Ace2. |
| 04:55.19 | Wobwork | I think Thrae's gone a bit more generalised than just your comments, Gag =) |
| 04:56.15 | gnorlish | ace2 took over tinytip for thrae months ago |
| 04:56.22 | gnorlish | he's jealous |
| 04:56.43 | Wobwork | I saw ace2 sleeping with your mom |
| 04:56.56 | Gagorian | Probably, but that's the same old argument. My main point was that I wouldn't be too worried about smaller addons using a portion of common libraries |
| 04:57.35 | Thrae | gnorlish: Maybe you're thinking of CowTip...I'm still working on TinyTip, just not on the Wowace SVN. I plan on releasing stuff on the Wowace SVN, but not developing. |
| 04:57.39 | Gagorian | In the end if you're running a handful of addons that need that, even if only one relies heavily upon it.. it's still probably better than implementing it separately. |
| 04:57.53 | gnorlish | i'm not thinking of cowtip |
| 04:57.59 | gnorlish | i still use tinytip from a long time ago |
| 04:58.32 | Thrae | gnorlish: Well early in the year there was a problem when we went to Lua 5.1, and I didn't use pairs(), but that was fixed on request |
| 04:58.50 | Thrae | After that, TinyTip has remained pretty much the same on the Wowace SVN |
| 04:59.04 | gnorlish | it does everything i need it to do |
| 04:59.07 | Gagorian | Also depends on what the library overhead for the particular addon is.. If it's static memory cost like Babble or something that requires constant processing. |
| 04:59.21 | Thrae | OK...so wait, what are we talking about? |
| 04:59.27 | Gagorian | Dunno |
| 04:59.29 | Gagorian | ! |
| 05:00.02 | Thrae | Gagorian: That was to gnorlish. As to what you're still talking about...read what I said about "For most developers, it's fine to use the libraries if they don't want to invest the time" |
| 05:00.31 | Thrae | Most libraries end up being more like welfare for addon developers. |
| 05:02.36 | Thrae | "A BabbleLib draws near! BabbleLib hits you for 5 damage. You are poisoned! You attack the BabbleLib with your Sword of Truthiness for 16 damage. You have defeated the BabbleLib! You receive 5 gold and a Medical Herb. You receive 5 experience points." |
| 05:02.46 | Gagorian | Of course. The point I'm trying to convey is that I still believe that using libraries in several cases will increase performance as long as it's used by several addons. |
| 05:02.52 | NightHawkTheSane | > eat herb |
| 05:03.13 | gnorlish | i've camped metal slimes for hours |
| 05:03.14 | NightHawkTheSane | i've played them, wouldn't call myself a fan, though |
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| 05:04.23 | Thrae | My favorite was Dragon Quest 4, so of course, the Metal Babble was my choice of camping until my button-pressing fingers hurt |
| 05:05.12 | gnorlish | i only played 1 and 2 |
| 05:05.18 | gnorlish | i was more of a final fantasy person |
| 05:05.57 | Thrae | Gagorian: You just have to be careful when you say that. Saying "It'll increase performance" isn't true as often as many people think. It's better to say "There's a possibility of reduced memory usage and performance increase." |
| 05:06.19 | Gagorian | Semantics |
| 05:07.02 | Thrae | gnorlish: Did you play the remakes? The remake of 3 was especially amazing. The old 1,2, & 3 were so boring, even when they were first introduced (3 not as much), especially compared to the Final Fantasy games. |
| 05:07.28 | gnorlish | haven't played any remakes, i played the "originals" on NES |
| 05:07.36 | gnorlish | and through an emulator as well |
| 05:07.52 | Thrae | gnorlish: You should play the remakes, they're all GBC games anyway ;) Emulate 'em if you will. |
| 05:08.34 | Thrae | Dragon Quest 4 is still a hell of a lot of fun, even if it's a NES game. It ranks right above Final Fantasy 1 for my favorite NES game of all time. |
| 05:09.19 | Fisker- | Thrae ! |
| 05:09.19 | gnorlish | final fantasy 1 was frustrating for me, i was like 9 when i got it |
| 05:09.24 | Fisker- | 4chan soundtrazk |
| 05:09.26 | Fisker- | http://img.4chan.org/b/imgboard.html |
| 05:09.27 | Fisker- | :P |
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| 05:10.40 | ckknight | hey all |
| 05:10.44 | Thrae | Gagorian: There's a big difference between *absolutely* and *supposedly* in communication. If you use absolutes like "it'll increase performance", most people will take that in at least all cases which are important to *them*, it'll increase performance. But we've just agreed that there are many more variables, so it's best left up to the user to determine when it increases performance, or not said at all. |
| 05:10.46 | Fisker- | hey |
| 05:11.16 | gnorlish | i heard ace2 improves winxp file caching performance |
| 05:11.33 | gnorlish | and integrates nicely with your brower of choice to block popups |
| 05:11.41 | Wobwork | I hear it heals my raid |
| 05:11.48 | Fisker- | it also kisses your babies |
| 05:11.49 | Wobwork | And drops epix |
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| 05:11.57 | Bejitt | Antiarc: disabling WhisperBid breaks Prat coloring =x |
| 05:12.02 | Gagorian | Thrae: Also it will rain tomorrow. It might not though? |
| 05:12.15 | Antiarc | Ah, hm. |
| 05:12.19 | Antiarc | Something about the hooking I suspect |
| 05:12.21 | Thrae | gnorlish: Yeah, I also first played it when I was 9 or 10. I eventually used the 1st Game Genie to cheat my way through the leveling process, because it took far longer then my pre-pubescent attention span could take :D |
| 05:12.28 | Bejitt | yarr |
| 05:12.43 | gnorlish | i used game genie on marble madness |
| 05:12.48 | Gagorian | Average end-user doesn't care about the specifics, now if he asks how to improve his performance I can recommend Ace2 addons. |
| 05:12.51 | gnorlish | that game was a piece of shit, it was so hard |
| 05:12.59 | Gagorian | Not saying it actually will, but I will recommend him to try |
| 05:13.09 | Thrae | gnorlish: Heh, I often used Game Genie on hard games for infinite lives |
| 05:14.16 | Gagorian | Even if he doesn't end up getting any net performance increase, he will at least usually get simple and good addons. |
| 05:14.44 | Thrae | Gagorian: Weather reports are different -- we all expect that, aside from the mad scientist who lives atop the hill over 'yonder, weather is a prediction with a lot of room for error ;) |
| 05:15.23 | Thrae | Gagorian: I also tell a lot of people to try addons found on Wowace if they want better performance, I just say "Go try these addons over at files.wowace.com" |
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| 05:15.45 | Thrae | Gah, bug on my leg |
| 05:17.05 | Thrae | A Bug appears on your leg! What do you do? > (Swat) > (Flick) > (Capture) > (Flee) > (Flee and cry like a little girl) > (Item) > (Magic) |
| 05:17.19 | CIA-22 | 03mecdemort * r44954 10PeriodicTable-3.0/ (4 files in 3 dirs): PeriodicTable-3.0: - Added more items to Tradeskill.Tool and Consumable.Buff |
| 05:17.35 | Gagorian | Well, I understand your point but luckily we're allowed to generalize and make assumptions on the internets. |
| 05:18.14 | Gagorian | In the end the average end-user isn't very likely to actually notice a difference either way.. *cough* Unless he uses KTM *cough* |
| 05:18.20 | NightHawkTheSane | > cast 'Flee and cry like a little girl' |
| 05:18.33 | NightHawkTheSane | ~flee |
| 05:18.33 | purl | ACTION runs away screaming |
| 05:18.35 | Thrae | The bug resists! |
| 05:18.57 | NightHawkTheSane | > use 'Raid' |
| 05:19.10 | Gagorian | I roll a d12 for attempt to seduce said bug |
| 05:19.37 | Wobwork | The bug takes you out to dinner and a movie. |
| 05:19.50 | Thrae | The bug casts 'Decrease Fault Tolerance'. Your RAID0+1 has been decreased to a RAID0! |
| 05:19.50 | NightHawkTheSane | d12? what god-forsaken system are you using that uses d12s? :P |
| 05:20.07 | Gagorian | NightHawkTheSane: Bug seduce dice are pretty special |
| 05:20.24 | NightHawkTheSane | as is anyone who would seduce a bug, i'm sure |
| 05:20.28 | Wobwork | Bug seduction is SERIOUS BUSINESS |
| 05:21.08 | Thrae | Gagorian: Making anything for anyone, its best to keep in mind that, if your target audience is ANYONE, then you will mostly be dealing with idiots. |
| 05:21.54 | NightHawkTheSane | s/mostly/invariably/ |
| 05:22.09 | Gagorian | Most definately, I've dealt with a fair share of them. |
| 05:22.22 | Gagorian | Mostly they don't even understand my sarcasm |
| 05:22.25 | Thrae | Cat Leaps Into Battle! Cat uses Stare at Bug. Bug is unaffected. Cat uses Poke at Bug. Bug is paralyzed! |
| 05:22.56 | Gagorian | *Periodic resist check for paralyze* |
| 05:23.59 | Thrae | Bug is no longer paralyzed! Bug attempts to Flee! Bug Flees into the darkest corners of beneath your bed. You gain 0 experience. |
| 05:24.26 | Thrae | And so ends the real-life drama of Me Vs A Bug. |
| 05:24.30 | Gagorian | This is getting rather out of hand |
| 05:24.48 | Gagorian | So it was probably a good call to end it :p |
| 05:25.00 | Thrae | I didn't end it. The bug flee'd :D |
| 05:25.05 | Thrae | Err, fled. |
| 05:26.03 | NightHawkTheSane | lol |
| 05:26.04 | Gagorian | Well, the bug was smarter than we though |
| 05:26.09 | NightHawkTheSane | Thrae: flea'd? |
| 05:26.15 | jkw | I can't understand why no PitBull layout works for me. ._. |
| 05:26.15 | Gagorian | A new breed of genetically enhanced bugs? |
| 05:26.37 | Gagorian | The PitBull has been laid down? |
| 05:27.31 | jkw | :> |
| 05:28.17 | jkw | The layouts only move the texts but does not change the unitframe itself. |
| 05:28.29 | jkw | With all the bling bling |
| 05:30.51 | Diao | pitblul is still buggy :( |
| 05:30.54 | Diao | bull* |
| 05:30.55 | NightHawkTheSane | have i mentioned how much i despise laying out forms in css? You'd think after doing this a dozen or so times I'd remember how to make it not suck. >< |
| 05:31.22 | CIA-22 | 03cryect * r44955 10Recount/ (FixLogStrings.lua GUI_Config.lua Recount.lua Recount.toc): Recount - Adds a built in toggable FixLogStrings to Recount for foreign language users (added due to the large amount who don't realize of the existance or need for FixLogStrings) |
| 05:33.13 | jkw | Diao, The import layout function is the only thing that does not work properly for me. Or well, it did work some trunk ago, now it doesn't work. |
| 05:35.31 | Diao | oh |
| 05:35.38 | Diao | i get some weird bug with boxes showing up on the screen |
| 05:35.41 | Diao | for party frames |
| 05:38.52 | art3mis | ya know whats awesome about inuyasha? |
| 05:38.56 | art3mis | Hair Demons |
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| 05:41.29 | Demetrious | Howdy pub^! |
| 05:55.39 | CIA-22 | 03wobin * r44956 10FuBar_HeyFu/Core.lua: FuBar_HeyFu: Drycode of Do Not Disturb functionality. rollback if it errors. Committing from work so I can get back to it at home |
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| 05:58.16 | CIA-22 | 03adirelle * r44957 10SimpleSelfRebuff/ (4 files in 4 dirs): SimpleSelfRebuff: internal rewrite. |
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| 05:59.55 | NM|Xinhuan | who's the author of itembonuslib? |
| 06:02.18 | Wobwork | ## Author: Jerry |
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| 06:06.23 | NM|Xinhuan | how can i contact him, say, to report that Surefooted enchant isn't adding +10 hit |
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| 06:14.15 | Wobwork | NM|Xinhuan: On the forum? |
| 06:14.28 | NM|Xinhuan | which forum? |
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| 06:14.33 | Wobwork | wowace one |
| 06:14.44 | Wobwork | www.wowace.com |
| 06:14.49 | NM|Xinhuan | just make a new thread or what? |
| 06:14.59 | Wobwork | Search for the addon thread |
| 06:15.03 | Wobwork | if there isn't one, make one =) |
| 06:15.07 | Wobwork | Or try and find Jerry on there |
| 06:15.09 | Wobwork | and pm him |
| 06:15.24 | Wobwork | (the latter is probably better) |
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| 06:19.39 | Wobwork | that'll be irritating =P |
| 06:22.37 | NightHawkTheSane | Wobwork: 'will be'? |
| 06:22.47 | Wobwork | truedat |
| 06:24.50 | CIA-22 | 03diablohu * r44958 10VanasKoS/ (VanasKoS.toc VanasKoSLocals.lua): |
| 06:24.50 | CIA-22 | VanasKoS: |
| 06:24.50 | CIA-22 | - added zhCN by Taburiss |
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| 06:31.45 | CIA-22 | Omen: |
| 06:31.45 | CIA-22 | - added zhCN by Taburiss |
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| 06:43.21 | cncfanatics | good mornig |
| 06:43.31 | cncfanatics | s/mornig/morning (good start ...)/ |
| 06:45.41 | cncfanatics | ~seen Nargiddley |
| 06:45.43 | purl | nargiddley <n=Narg@203-97-236-74.cable.telstraclear.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 19h 9m 33s ago, saying: 'nothing new cncfanatics'. |
| 06:45.46 | cncfanatics | ~seen Uldine |
| 06:45.47 | purl | i haven't seen 'uldine', cncfanatics |
| 06:46.05 | cncfanatics | ~seen undine |
| 06:46.06 | purl | undine <i=shamus@82-33-117-213.cable.ubr02.hawk.blueyonder.co.uk> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 15h 3m 1s ago, saying: 'lol'. |
| 06:46.51 | cncfanatics | ~seen Gagorian |
| 06:46.52 | purl | gagorian is currently on #wowace. Has said a total of 97 messages. Is idling for 1h 20m 15s, last said: 'The PitBull has been laid down?'. |
| 06:46.59 | cncfanatics | Gagorian, ping |
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| 07:06.59 | [Ammo] | morning girls |
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| 07:08.38 | evl | mornign |
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| 07:30.38 | Gngsk | vhaarr, ping |
| 07:30.57 | vhaarr | pong |
| 07:31.26 | Gngsk | you wrote sink right? |
| 07:31.36 | vhaarr | yes |
| 07:31.41 | vhaarr | I am writing, you mean, it's not done yet |
| 07:31.44 | Gngsk | oh, ok |
| 07:31.58 | Gngsk | well, I'm just wondering. I'm using it now for banzai, bigwigs and witchhunt |
| 07:32.04 | Gngsk | through MSBT |
| 07:32.10 | vhaarr | Nargiddley: any ideas on the radio buttons in waterfall yet? |
| 07:32.14 | Gngsk | and for whatever reason the backdrop on the font doesn't show up |
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| 07:32.24 | vhaarr | Gngsk: feel free to play around and give me a fix |
| 07:32.29 | Gngsk | ok |
| 07:32.34 | vhaarr | or just commit if you can |
| 07:32.39 | vhaarr | it's open source! |
| 07:32.53 | vhaarr | need to restart this crap laptop, brb |
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| 07:36.49 | Nargiddley | vhaarr, i'll get it done in the next couple hours |
| 07:36.58 | vhaarr | Nargiddley: wow, nice |
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| 07:38.15 | vhaarr | Nargiddley: was funny that waterfall was the only implementation that properly supported passing groups as subgroups of passing groups |
| 07:38.26 | vhaarr | until I asked mikk, and he fixed it in AC and dew |
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| 07:39.36 | Nargiddley | heh, what were the others doing ? |
| 07:40.08 | vhaarr | they were invoking the handlers on the top level passing group |
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| 07:40.38 | Nargiddley | ah |
| 07:40.41 | vhaarr | while they should, obviously, use the bottom-most get/set/etc handlers |
| 07:41.16 | Gngsk | ok vhaarr, I think I found a solution |
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| 07:41.43 | vhaarr | Gngsk: commit away, I'll review later |
| 07:41.49 | Gngsk | I can't commit! |
| 07:42.03 | Gngsk | but it's so small, just change 1 to nil on line 160 at the end of MikSBT.DisplayMessage |
| 07:42.09 | Gngsk | 1 forces it to normal, nil will make it inherit |
| 07:42.51 | vhaarr | ah, sec |
| 07:43.00 | vhaarr | this is not my computer, and it runs windows >< |
| 07:43.10 | Gngsk | not a major change or anything |
| 07:43.17 | Gngsk | so, do it at your leisure, I can remind you of it later |
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| 07:44.30 | vhaarr | so basically |
| 07:44.32 | vhaarr | msbt_outlines[outline] or 1 |
| 07:44.33 | vhaarr | should be |
| 07:44.35 | vhaarr | msbt_outlines[outline] |
| 07:44.38 | vhaarr | right? |
| 07:44.44 | Gngsk | I change 1 to nil, but I guess it's the same difference |
| 07:44.48 | Gngsk | I'm not a lua expert |
| 07:44.50 | vhaarr | yes it is |
| 07:44.52 | Gngsk | k |
| 07:45.37 | vhaarr | christ, wordpad fucked up all the translations |
| 07:45.53 | Thrae | gvim ftw. |
| 07:46.05 | pb_ee1 | you can try notepad++ too. |
| 07:46.16 | pb_ee1 | if you're on windows though |
| 07:46.36 | vhaarr | I would install an editor if I could |
| 07:46.54 | Jaxon | I thought notepad was supposed to be unicode friendly now. |
| 07:47.10 | vhaarr | really |
| 07:47.22 | Jaxon | I have no idea, I haven't used the OS since Service pack 1 was released. |
| 07:47.24 | Jaxon | Maybe earlier. |
| 07:47.46 | vhaarr | it seems you are right |
| 07:47.58 | Thrae | Well for one, Windows uses UTF-16 while everyone else uses UTF-8. |
| 07:48.10 | CIA-22 | 03rabbit * r44960 10SinkLib/Sink-1.0/Sink-1.0.lua: .Sink-1.0: Fix MSBT outlines, thanks Gngsk. |
| 07:48.42 | Thrae | You also need the full language packs for each language you want support for on Windows. It doesn't come with fonts supporting any of them. |
| 07:51.05 | CIA-22 | 03totalpackage * r44961 10StellarUF/ (StellarUF.toc core.lua powerwatch.lua): |
| 07:51.05 | CIA-22 | StellarUF: |
| 07:51.05 | CIA-22 | - bug fix for when mobhealth3 users target a mob with +100k hp and have deficit option checked |
| 07:51.05 | CIA-22 | - cleaned up options table |
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| 07:57.20 | Comxx | Antiarc YOu there ? |
| 07:58.06 | kergoth | vhaarr, if you cant install an editor, plenty are available in portable form, run directly off a usb stick. i know there's a gvim portable |
| 07:58.27 | vhaarr | kergoth: yeah but to my total surprise, notepad actually did NOT fuck up the translations |
| 07:58.35 | kergoth | wow |
| 07:58.36 | vhaarr | so I was able to make the change and commit |
| 07:58.39 | vhaarr | wow indeed |
| 08:00.27 | [Ammo] | hehe |
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| 08:09.34 | CIA-22 | 03jerry * r44962 10GridAlert/GridAlert.lua: GridAlert: embed Sink into GridAlert instead of using it |
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| 08:24.07 | [alx] | hello, my account on wowace.com (not the SVN account) is deleted and the wiki-page I've created is modified and m work is also deleted (is not in the history). why?? |
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| 08:25.58 | CIA-22 | 03nargiddley * r44963 10Waterfall-1.0/Waterfall-1.0/Waterfall-1.0.lua: Waterfall-1.0: Add support for isRadio on toggle options |
| 08:25.59 | Gngsk | [alx], there was a crash a few weeks back, had to be restored from backup |
| 08:31.47 | pb_ee1 | more precisely, a "oops moment (tm)" as described on the main page ;) |
| 08:31.47 | vhaarr | Nargiddley: that looks excellent, thank you -- did you use the bigwigs plugins -> messages -> output options as a test? |
| 08:32.06 | vhaarr | Nargiddley: there are a few glitches I'd like fixed, if at all possible |
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| 08:34.56 | Nargiddley | dont have bigwigs enabled atm, i just created a coupld test options to check it |
| 08:35.38 | vhaarr | okay |
| 08:36.02 | vhaarr | there's a dropdown box as well, and it doesn't -look- disabled when it is |
| 08:36.08 | vhaarr | the dropdown arrow just doesn't do anything |
| 08:36.31 | Nargiddley | hm |
| 08:36.48 | vhaarr | which is not a big deal, but I think it should turn gray for consistency |
| 08:37.02 | vhaarr | other dropdown boxes do |
| 08:37.07 | vhaarr | so it's weird that this one does not |
| 08:37.27 | Nargiddley | is it that it would have no entries in it ? |
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| 08:38.07 | cncfanatics | anyone bored enough to help me test code ? |
| 08:38.09 | vhaarr | well, that depends what handler waterfall calls to check if it should be disabled |
| 08:38.13 | vhaarr | but yes, it would be empty as well |
| 08:38.16 | vhaarr | in any case |
| 08:39.40 | vhaarr | Nargiddley: it's probably just using the wrong disabled function, then |
| 08:39.54 | Nargiddley | hm, that page's dropdown seems to be working for me |
| 08:39.59 | vhaarr | the option is part of a nested passing group, but it has a disabled function of its own |
| 08:40.13 | Nargiddley | greying out when i have anything but parrot selected |
| 08:40.28 | vhaarr | really |
| 08:40.30 | vhaarr | doesn't do that here |
| 08:40.39 | CIA-22 | 03rabbit * r44964 10SinkLib/Sink-1.0/Sink-1.0.lua: .Sink-1.0: Fix :SetSinkOverride. |
| 08:42.18 | CIA-22 | 03rabbit * r44965 10!SurfaceControl/SurfaceControl.lua: !SurfaceControl: Support for setting the Sink-1.0 output sink override. |
| 08:42.32 | Athou | hey guys I'm trying to have an aceoptions datatable to update dynamically in dewdrop, like clicking on "add a buff" and have a "new buff" group pop in the menu |
| 08:42.47 | Athou | right now the table is only updated at startup :x |
| 08:43.12 | vhaarr | Athou: there are probably 20+ mods on the svn that do this kind of thing with a options table |
| 08:43.20 | vhaarr | just think of it as a table |
| 08:43.21 | vhaarr | nothing more |
| 08:43.23 | vhaarr | and add stuff to it |
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| 08:46.25 | ckknight | hey all, back |
| 08:46.36 | vhaarr | morning |
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| 08:57.10 | Thiana | rabbit: Can you have Sink recheck the available outputs on ADDON_LOADED please? ie, for those of us that have Parrot/etc load out of cities. |
| 08:58.00 | Thiana | vharr, ping. ^^^ |
| 08:59.53 | ckknight | vhaarr: ^--- |
| 09:00.05 | ckknight | probably a good idea |
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| 09:02.38 | sylvanaar | how does storage for sink's menu work? what if it want to set the sink for some arbitrary thing which i am building the menu dynamically for (Prat's customfilters module eg.) |
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| 09:04.12 | NeoTron | woot. Shadow of Leotheras's Chaos Blast hits Aminai for 16750 Fire damage |
| 09:04.33 | NeoTron | and a 15075 hit 2 seconds earlier :P |
| 09:04.34 | vhaarr | Thiana: it should recheck every time you open the menu |
| 09:04.41 | vhaarr | Thiana: and also every time a message is fired |
| 09:04.50 | vhaarr | are you saying it doesn't? |
| 09:06.36 | vhaarr | sylvanaar: you need to embed Sink-1.0 in your module, and it checks automatically for a database |
| 09:06.46 | vhaarr | sylvanaar: I'm going to make it possible to override, though |
| 09:07.21 | Cheads | hmm some addon changed my font for tooltips since yesterday.. hmm |
| 09:09.59 | Cheads | seems like it's parrot's master settings that's acting up |
| 09:10.19 | sylvanaar | vhaarr i embedded it, does it only have per-addon scoping? what can be associted with a sink? |
| 09:11.12 | vhaarr | sylvanaar: if you embed it, it'll scan through embed.db for profile, char, realm, server, class and accont databases, and use the first one available in that order |
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| 09:12.02 | vhaarr | I don't understand your question about what can be associated |
| 09:13.04 | sylvanaar | vhaarr well, you have a sink - logically, there would be a source |
| 09:13.15 | vhaarr | the source is self:Pour |
| 09:13.20 | Bejitt | hmmmm TuiRaidTracker o_O |
| 09:14.41 | ckknight | wouldn't the source be the faucet? |
| 09:16.01 | sylvanaar | ckknight you could pour your drink in it |
| 09:16.24 | ckknight | fair enough |
| 09:16.27 | cryogen | vhaarr: am i right in thinking the is no way to enter values for items in nrt? |
| 09:16.30 | ckknight | vhaarr: I demand a garborator |
| 09:16.43 | CIA-22 | 03nargiddley * r44966 10Waterfall-1.0/Waterfall-1.0/Waterfall-1.0.lua: Waterfall-1.0: Fix for multitoggle options not getting passed the correct values when not in a pass group |
| 09:16.49 | cryogen | i kno wyou said you were thinking about popup boses in the future, just checking there's nothing im missing now |
| 09:16.54 | cryogen | boxes* |
| 09:17.08 | cryogen | (nrt is super awesomeness in a can btw) |
| 09:17.25 | vhaarr | cryogen: not yet, but there will be |
| 09:17.36 | vhaarr | ckknight: haha, I don't know what that is, but it sounds like something every man should have |
| 09:17.42 | sylvanaar | vhaarr the way i see it, it this gives you an option per-addon of settting an output. if i wanted to set more than one output there isnt a way |
| 09:17.59 | ckknight | vhaarr: it's for women, really, they're supposed to be in the kitchen |
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| 09:18.07 | ckknight | vhaarr: it basically shreds food down the sink |
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| 09:18.12 | vhaarr | ah |
| 09:18.34 | cryogen | vhaarr: alright, thanks, while im asking for things.. can i get a ctrl-a(select all) option for the output xml window? :) |
| 09:18.44 | vhaarr | sylvanaar: why would you set more than one output sink? |
| 09:18.56 | vhaarr | cryogen: I wouldn't know how to implement that |
| 09:19.07 | vhaarr | I haven't done much wow UI stuff |
| 09:19.19 | cryogen | mmkay |
| 09:19.25 | vhaarr | err |
| 09:19.29 | vhaarr | isn't that possible already? |
| 09:19.35 | cryogen | not when i tried it |
| 09:19.40 | vhaarr | just click the text area to focus it, and do ctrl+a |
| 09:19.44 | cryogen | could be EUSER but still |
| 09:19.47 | cryogen | i'll try again |
| 09:19.48 | Arrowmaster | i thought it worked |
| 09:19.51 | vhaarr | yeah it is |
| 09:19.52 | vhaarr | works fine |
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| 09:20.49 | Arrowmaster | oddly all the best coders cant make a decent UI worth a damn, but thats not really odd since usually people with good technical skills dont have good artistic skills and vice versa |
| 09:21.11 | Silviu- | vhaarr when i set WitchHunt to output messages to MSBT it won`t allow me anymore to set it as "Sticky" how it was before SinkLib ;) |
| 09:21.25 | ckknight | they're not necessarily mutually exclusive |
| 09:21.33 | [Ammo] | guischmui |
| 09:21.33 | Silviu- | Or i miss the option ? |
| 09:21.41 | [Ammo] | the option is gone methinks |
| 09:21.45 | [Ammo] | and needs to be added to sinklib |
| 09:21.49 | vhaarr | Silviu-: I know, that needs to be added, so give me a patch |
| 09:21.58 | Arrowmaster | no theyre not but its extremely uncommon for somebody to be good at both |
| 09:22.01 | Silviu- | Heh i can`t code ;p |
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| 09:22.58 | Bejitt | ehh for certain research areas, though, you kinda have to be good at both |
| 09:23.06 | sylvanaar | vhaarr it makes sense when adding it to prat's customfilters module, to let each filter choose where its output should go |
| 09:23.18 | Bejitt | at least, you learn a ton about colors and aesthetics o_O |
| 09:23.43 | Bejitt | (studying infovis) |
| 09:24.31 | Bejitt | then there's HumanComputerInteraction @_@ |
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| 09:37.39 | art3mis | meh i hate insomnia |
| 09:38.01 | art3mis | i cant sleep and im so bored im ripping excel saga to watch on my subway rides to and from work |
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| 09:43.30 | pb_ee1 | art3mis: just shutdown your computer and read a book, you'll be tired soon enough :) |
| 09:44.58 | art3mis | im out of books |
| 09:45.55 | art3mis | keep forgetting to head to the library and replace them |
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| 09:57.45 | CIA-22 | 03cwdg * r44967 10SinkLib/Sink-1.0/Sink-1.0.lua: |
| 09:57.45 | CIA-22 | SinkLib: |
| 09:57.45 | CIA-22 | - add zhCN local |
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| 10:06.09 | baer_ | Moin. |
| 10:06.33 | cncfanatics | hello |
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| 10:15.38 | CIA-22 | 03nargiddley * r44968 10Baggins/Baggins-Filtering.lua: Baggins: Fix Bank Filtering |
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| 10:18.49 | abbat_w | hi guys |
| 10:19.02 | abbat_w | btw, someone play by warrior? |
| 10:20.00 | [dRaCo] | not really, but just ask :> |
| 10:20.09 | abbat_w | [14:23] <abbat_w> 6 |
| 10:20.15 | abbat_w | --- |
| 10:20.16 | abbat_w | 6/21 21:46:04.781 Kor gains Spell Reflection. |
| 10:20.21 | abbat_w | 6/21 21:46:05.343 You fail to cast Frostbite: Target is friendly. |
| 10:20.27 | abbat_w | 6/21 21:46:05.796 Your Frostbolt is reflected back by Kor. |
| 10:20.29 | abbat_w | --- |
| 10:20.41 | abbat_w | :) |
| 10:20.46 | Megalon | abbat_w: looks like a bug |
| 10:20.51 | abbat_w | Nope |
| 10:21.05 | abbat_w | 2 spell reflect looks like bug, yep |
| 10:21.14 | abbat_w | ;) |
| 10:21.25 | [dRaCo] | frostbite isn't a spell |
| 10:21.26 | [dRaCo] | it |
| 10:21.35 | [dRaCo] | it's a proc on spell hit |
| 10:21.36 | abbat_w | proc |
| 10:21.38 | Megalon | frostbite is a proc |
| 10:21.38 | abbat_w | yep |
| 10:21.43 | Megalon | so it should procc as normal |
| 10:21.46 | Megalon | on a reflect |
| 10:21.53 | Megalon | so it's a bug you didn't frostbite yourself |
| 10:21.58 | abbat_w | I think yes |
| 10:22.19 | abbat_w | I want know, some warriors see frostbite proc reflect? |
| 10:22.42 | abbat_w | Blizzard fix impact proc, so, if fire spell reflected, impact can proc on me |
| 10:22.51 | abbat_w | But i never see frostbite proc on me |
| 10:23.10 | Megalon | the combatlog looks like you can't frostbite friendly targets |
| 10:23.29 | Megalon | and the game thinks that on a reflect the procc source is you |
| 10:23.31 | abbat_w | I think it's me 'friendly target' |
| 10:23.45 | abbat_w | But impact proc on me if warr reflect fire spell |
| 10:23.58 | abbat_w | Anyway, it's ok, because warr can reflect 2 spells at once |
| 10:24.02 | Megalon | you should post it on the forums as a bug report |
| 10:24.11 | Megalon | and ask if it's intended this way |
| 10:24.32 | abbat_w | For example, i cast frostbolt + ice lance. Warrior use reflection and reflect frostbolt and lance back to me |
| 10:24.49 | abbat_w | Same for grounding totem. It can redirect 2 spells |
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| 10:25.30 | jkw | woah, just logged my Huntard. The combat fader function for pitbull is quite epileptic for the pet unit frame. :P |
| 10:25.38 | Megalon | that's something i also noticed as warrior |
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| 10:26.08 | abbat_w | Ah |
| 10:26.09 | abbat_w | btw |
| 10:26.10 | Megalon | all casts are reflected |
| 10:26.13 | Megalon | in the time of |
| 10:26.21 | abbat_w | Megalon, yes ;) |
| 10:26.21 | Megalon | first missle that starts from you |
| 10:26.23 | Megalon | and the hit |
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| 10:26.33 | Megalon | every missle that starts inbetween is also reflected |
| 10:26.52 | abbat_w | I think problem in time sync |
| 10:27.53 | abbat_w | Tonight i cast nova and start cast frostbolt on shaman. After i finish cast i cast ice lance |
| 10:27.58 | abbat_w | Shaman put grouning totem |
| 10:28.10 | abbat_w | And totem redirect both spells |
| 10:28.13 | JY|Screen | i managed one to reflect 1 frostbolt and 1 pyroblast from 2 mage with the same reflect :D |
| 10:28.19 | cncfanatics | abbat_w, thats what they called own :p |
| 10:28.30 | abbat_w | Heh |
| 10:28.39 | abbat_w | Ice lance always hit first ;) |
| 10:28.52 | cncfanatics | well, it redirects everything as long as its up |
| 10:28.59 | cncfanatics | if it starts flying as its up, its redirected :p |
| 10:29.00 | CIA-22 | 03sylvanaar * r44969 10Prat/ (5 files in 3 dirs): |
| 10:29.00 | CIA-22 | Prat: Embed sink. Available from PopupMessage (sink, source) and CustomFilters (source). |
| 10:29.00 | CIA-22 | Added option to play sound for a custom filter if the message its associated with is printed to a chatframe, similar option to output to a secondary sink. PopupMessage will register as an available sink. |
| 10:29.11 | abbat_w | And ice lance should kill totem but damn, totem absorb both spells ) |
| 10:29.25 | baer_ | btw, is pitbull > agUF? |
| 10:29.31 | abbat_w | cncfanatics, sometimes yes |
| 10:29.44 | cncfanatics | baer_, personal choice |
| 10:29.54 | cncfanatics | I prefer pitbull cuz I can disable all stuff I dont need |
| 10:29.57 | baer_ | cncfanatics, ok, what does it depend on? :) |
| 10:30.02 | baer_ | ok. |
| 10:30.07 | abbat_w | cncfanatic, but if you use detect magic after warr use reflect, you damage spell don't be reflected |
| 10:30.07 | cncfanatics | baer_, whatever look you prefer mainly |
| 10:30.23 | cncfanatics | thats because it reflects when the spell lands on the warrior |
| 10:30.26 | cncfanatics | not as you launch it |
| 10:30.32 | cncfanatics | different mechanics :) |
| 10:30.58 | cncfanatics | oh btw, can someone test my code for me? |
| 10:31.21 | Megalon | i think it checks for reflect on launch |
| 10:31.38 | abbat_w | Spell can't be reflected if spell on the fly |
| 10:31.39 | Megalon | can't explain how else it would reflect two spells from one mage |
| 10:31.43 | baer_ | cncfanatics, sure. |
| 10:31.46 | abbat_w | Only before spell leave me |
| 10:31.57 | baer_ | cncfanatics, what is it about? |
| 10:32.02 | abbat_w | Megalon, bugged time sync, bugged reflect |
| 10:32.12 | cncfanatics | baer_, testing code and helping me iron bugs till I can login WoW myself |
| 10:32.21 | baer_ | ah ok. |
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| 10:33.14 | cncfanatics | baer_, wanne help ? :p |
| 10:34.32 | baer_ | cncfanatics, sure, but gimme a bit time, need to do some phone calls first. |
| 10:34.48 | cncfanatics | baer_ sure |
| 10:35.06 | CIA-22 | 03sylvanaar * r44970 10Prat/ (Prat.toc libs/): Prat: Sink-1.0 -> SinkLib |
| 10:35.43 | cncfanatics | oh btw |
| 10:35.52 | cncfanatics | is there any slashcommand library around more pwoerfull then aceconsole? |
| 10:35.58 | cncfanatics | s/pwoerfull/powerfull/ |
| 10:36.02 | cncfanatics | ala flexbar |
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| 10:40.13 | cncfanatics | guess not :p |
| 10:42.17 | cncfanatics | can anyone answer a question about svn also ? |
| 10:42.31 | cncfanatics | can you have files inside a folder with externals set ? |
| 10:42.42 | cncfanatics | so that it will both download the content of the folder and put externals into it too |
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| 10:43.39 | cncfanatics | ~shoot everyone |
| 10:43.39 | purl | ACTION shoots everyone in the foot with a glue gun! |
| 10:43.42 | loonacy | Ergh... need more than 300 spacing in Pitbull... what a ridiculously low number. |
| 10:44.08 | art3mis | www.xkcd.com |
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| 10:47.44 | Hey-WTF | I think I'm going to go back to aguf |
| 10:49.14 | cncfanatics | art3mis, think i'll keep myself busy with that this afternoon |
| 10:50.12 | art3mis | bahahahhahahaha |
| 10:50.30 | art3mis | appearantly engineer SP's can makethe shadow reflect trinket |
| 10:50.55 | dreamss | sps? |
| 10:50.56 | art3mis | pop that cast sw:d and the damage you take will also reflect thus teoreticly doing double damage on your target |
| 10:51.00 | art3mis | shadow priest |
| 10:51.29 | cncfanatics | who uses swd in pvp except if ur sure its gonna kill these days ? |
| 10:51.37 | art3mis | its still pretty funny |
| 10:51.45 | art3mis | a free 3k damage with a single trinket ;P |
| 10:52.27 | cncfanatics | heh |
| 10:52.28 | dreamss | plus dots |
| 10:52.30 | dreamss | and debuff |
| 10:52.38 | cncfanatics | six demon bags used to do more then 3k dmg before nerf |
| 10:54.04 | art3mis | dots mb trinket sw:d mb sw:d dead target ;P |
| 10:54.21 | art3mis | yeah that bag used to be awesome |
| 10:55.01 | cncfanatics | six demons bag + shockadin build = lol |
| 10:55.47 | cncfanatics | http://xkcd.com/111/ |
| 10:58.32 | art3mis | "Paladin DPSis like the female orgasm. Some Claim it's a myth, many try to make it happen and have no idea how, and most movies of it are fake." |
| 10:58.58 | Health | funny! |
| 11:00.09 | Fin | sylvanaar: I fixed Alias! properly! woo! |
| 11:00.40 | Fin | sylvanaar: *without* bothering you! haha |
| 11:00.49 | sylvanaar | ^.^ |
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| 11:00.59 | Fin | :) |
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| 11:06.24 | art3mis | wow |
| 11:06.30 | art3mis | someone made a travel bot with autoit |
| 11:06.48 | haste | that's nothing new |
| 11:06.59 | art3mis | its still rather impressive |
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| 11:07.29 | haste | I'm guessing your thinking of the one who implented the binary boxes in the corner to do it? |
| 11:07.55 | Gngsk | hmm, my baggins bank is empty |
| 11:08.05 | art3mis | thermabot |
| 11:08.20 | art3mis | err Thermo Prime |
| 11:08.31 | haste | yeh, that one |
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| 11:08.39 | CIA-22 | 03sylvanaar * r44971 10Prat/Prat_Modules/modules/ (CustomFilters.lua PopupMessage.lua Sounds.lua): Prat: Fixes for Sink-1.0 support |
| 11:08.53 | art3mis | its still kinna cool |
| 11:08.58 | art3mis | i love autoit |
| 11:09.26 | haste | I don't know much about it |
| 11:12.44 | art3mis | it was originally a tool to help script installs of things for winders admins and programmers |
| 11:13.03 | art3mis | after a while it became a tool to rip off those pay2surf programs ;P |
| 11:13.15 | art3mis | then it was a tool to automate fishing in wow |
| 11:13.30 | art3mis | all in all its perty neat and fun to muck with |
| 11:17.26 | Nargiddley | Gngsk, update it. Just fixed a bug that caused that, let me know if its not completely fixed |
| 11:19.27 | Gngsk | how can I tell what rev I'm running? |
| 11:19.34 | Gngsk | /baggins about doesn't say |
| 11:19.44 | Nargiddley | well i only updated it about half an hour ago |
| 11:19.59 | Gngsk | pretty sure I got your last commit |
| 11:20.08 | Gngsk | the fix bank filtering one? |
| 11:20.13 | Gngsk | the profiles seem borked |
| 11:21.13 | Nargiddley | borked how ? |
| 11:21.24 | Gngsk | yeah, running 44968 |
| 11:21.50 | Gngsk | switching from say, all in one to default no items are shown |
| 11:21.54 | Gagorian | cnc\eating: pong |
| 11:22.08 | Gngsk | same with all in one sorted |
| 11:22.11 | Gngsk | reloading kinda fixes it |
| 11:22.48 | Gngsk | lemme revert to the previous revision and see if it's any different |
| 11:29.13 | Gngsk | looks like the issues I am seeing started with 44878, 44602 works as I'd expect it to as far as switching between profiles |
| 11:29.20 | Gngsk | lemme try and take some screenshots |
| 11:31.20 | Mecdemort | Nargiddley: in 44878 i was getting massive overlapping from all sections but not in 44602, did you already know and/or fix for 44968? |
| 11:31.34 | Nargiddley | overlapping ? |
| 11:31.36 | Gngsk | yeah, that's what I'm talking about |
| 11:31.54 | Nargiddley | items visible where they shouldnt be ? |
| 11:32.02 | cncfanatisc | Gagorian, pong |
| 11:32.03 | Mecdemort | ya basically all spacing of sections was gone, and you'd have them overlap by a few pixels |
| 11:32.11 | cncfanatisc | Nargiddley :o |
| 11:32.29 | Nargiddley | getting that one now, the one i dont know the problem for is items not all showing in bank |
| 11:33.11 | cncfanatisc | Nargiddley, any update on alignment for waterfall ? |
| 11:33.18 | Mecdemort | I don't think i've had that but like i said im still running 44602, and btw i <3 category rules |
| 11:33.25 | Gngsk | yeah the bank not working is what made me start messing around, then I saw the issues with switching between profiles |
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| 11:34.44 | Gngsk | Nargiddley, http://ctscreens.net/8205 |
| 11:35.40 | Gngsk | ok, I guess that's just all in one sorted sitting on top of a borked all in one |
| 11:35.46 | Nargiddley | but are items sorting correctly, thats what i'm worried about atm |
| 11:35.54 | Gngsk | not with all in one profile |
| 11:36.19 | Nargiddley | items arent always getting hidden but that shouldnt be hard to fix |
| 11:36.36 | Gngsk | if I click on all in one profile, it does just like the bank |
| 11:36.42 | Gngsk | nothing shows up at all |
| 11:36.50 | Gngsk | if I keep at at that profile and reload, then it works, I think |
| 11:37.07 | Gngsk | yeah |
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| 11:37.33 | Mecdemort | there is one weird thing i was having happen with the Unfiltered category, at the bottom of the all in one bag it would work fine, but if i moved it to the top it would pick up 1 section but but leave the other 11 sections alone |
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| 11:38.31 | Gngsk | ok so if I reload the UI to make the all in one profile work, when I switch to default profile no items show up, just empty categories |
| 11:38.31 | cncfanatisc | Mecdemort, quite logical imo, it takes what wasnt filtered yet |
| 11:38.38 | Gagorian | cncfanatisc: You were looking for me? |
| 11:38.42 | cncfanatisc | Gagorian, yes |
| 11:39.05 | Mecdemort | cncfanatisc: maybe, but why only absorb 1 sections, instead of all of the ones below it? |
| 11:39.09 | cncfanatisc | I'm coding on FlexBar2 again, and didn't implement textsub funcs into my code yet, as a result, DrDamage bugs as soon as FB2 is loaded |
| 11:39.24 | cncfanatisc | could you add more conditional checking for if the function exists, Gagorian |
| 11:43.37 | Mecdemort | wow i'm more tired than i thought, my typing skills have gone from suck to blow |
| 11:44.01 | CIA-22 | 03ryuji * r44972 10Prat/Prat_Modules/modules/ (Alias.lua Editbox.lua): Prat: update zhTW local |
| 11:44.35 | cncfanatisc | Nargiddley, ping |
| 11:45.11 | Nargiddley | cncfanatics, what ? |
| 11:45.42 | cncfanatics | Any update on alignment using waterfall ? |
| 11:46.50 | Nargiddley | no |
| 11:48.06 | CIA-22 | 03phyber * r44973 10FuBar_DigiCamFu/DigiCamFu.lua: |
| 11:48.06 | CIA-22 | FuBar_DigiCamFu: |
| 11:48.06 | CIA-22 | - Bored at work, made changing screenshot quality work, maybe. |
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| 11:48.48 | Mecdemort | alors, au lit |
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| 11:51.56 | cncfanatics | Undine; ping |
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| 11:52.47 | Gagorian | cncfanatics sure |
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| 11:53.19 | Undine | heya |
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| 11:53.49 | CIA-22 | 03mikk * r44974 10Baggins/Baggins-Filtering.lua: Baggins: Speed up recursion safety by a lot |
| 11:54.18 | Undine | hmm, some mod is triggering an error from AceAddon/AceEvent :( |
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| 11:55.17 | keenix | ...artographer\Cartographer_Professions\Professions.lua:186: table index is nil: |
| 11:55.17 | keenix | <in C code>: in function `ExpandSkillHeader' is there any solution ? |
| 11:57.05 | JoshBorke | keenix: fix the bug? |
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| 11:59.09 | CIA-22 | 03nargiddley * r44975 10Baggins/ (Baggins-Filtering.lua Baggins-enUS.lua Baggins.lua): |
| 11:59.09 | CIA-22 | Baggins: - More Bank sorting fixes |
| 11:59.09 | CIA-22 | - Stop Items frames from being left visible when they shouldn't |
| 11:59.09 | CIA-22 | - New Option 'Layout Anchor', lets you choose which corner of the layout bounds to anchor to, this WILL look weird if you don't move the layout bounds to the corner you want the bags in. |
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| 12:04.01 | Neebler | Hans Gruber says "unt ya" |
| 12:04.42 | Undine | i'm sure for a brief moment omen remembered where it was supposed to be. but sadly the moment has passed :( |
| 12:07.04 | Wobin | ... |
| 12:07.05 | Wobin | http://foryourentertainment.blogspot.com/2007/07/oh-my.html |
| 12:07.14 | Wobin | I quote |
| 12:07.15 | Wobin | If you only watch one YouTube movie today featuring dancing country farmer's daughters contortionists singing about potato salad, it should be this one. |
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| 12:14.42 | CIA-22 | 03athou * r44976 10FuBar_RaidBuffFu/ (. FuBar_RaidBuffFu.lua FuBar_RaidBuffFu.toc localization.lua): |
| 12:14.42 | CIA-22 | FuBar_RaidBuffFu: initial commit |
| 12:14.42 | CIA-22 | - Quickly catch missing buffs on your raid |
| 12:14.54 | CIA-22 | 03nargiddley * r44977 10Baggins/ (Baggins-Filtering.lua Baggins.lua): Baggins: Update minimised section's item counts properly |
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| 12:17.32 | CIA-22 | 03athou * r44978 10FuBar_RaidBuffFu/: |
| 12:17.32 | CIA-22 | FuBar_RaidBuffFu: |
| 12:17.32 | CIA-22 | - setting up externals |
| 12:18.45 | CIA-22 | 03athou * r44979 10FuBar_RaidBuffFu/FuBar_RaidBuffFu.toc: |
| 12:18.45 | CIA-22 | FuBar_RaidBuffFu: |
| 12:18.45 | CIA-22 | - TOC update |
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| 12:20.50 | Funkeh` | hi all |
| 12:21.41 | cncfanatics | Hello Funkeh` |
| 12:22.26 | CIA-22 | 03nargiddley * r44980 10Baggins/Baggins.lua: Baggins: Prevent Extra Section Titles from staying visible after changing profiles |
| 12:24.08 | pb_ee1 | baer_: ping |
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| 12:26.42 | CIA-22 | 03athou * r44981 10FuBar_RaidBuffFu/ (FuBar_RaidBuffFu.lua localization.lua): |
| 12:26.42 | CIA-22 | FuBar_RaidBuffFu: |
| 12:26.42 | CIA-22 | - Hint added to the tooltip |
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| 12:34.40 | CIA-22 | 03athou * r44982 10FuBar_RaidBuffFu/FuBar_RaidBuffFu.lua: |
| 12:34.40 | CIA-22 | FuBar_RaidBuffFu: |
| 12:34.40 | CIA-22 | - Hide bufflines when no buff is missing |
| 12:34.40 | CIA-22 | - Disabled outside raids |
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| 12:38.47 | CIA-22 | 03athou * r44983 10FuBar_RaidBuffFu/FuBar_RaidBuffFu.lua: |
| 12:38.47 | CIA-22 | FuBar_RaidBuffFu: |
| 12:38.47 | CIA-22 | - forgot Shadow Protection |
| 12:40.15 | CIA-22 | 03athou * r44984 10FuBar_RaidBuffFu/FuBar_RaidBuffFu.lua: |
| 12:40.15 | CIA-22 | FuBar_RaidBuffFu: |
| 12:40.15 | CIA-22 | - Shadow Protection's default is now disabled |
| 12:40.16 | Saladin | CIA-22: no u |
| 12:43.02 | yacoob | http://www.mikesplanet.net/2007/07/ubuntu-in-marvel-comics/ :D :D :D |
| 12:44.46 | deltron | haha awesome |
| 12:49.02 | Amadeo | wtf, lol |
| 12:49.55 | pb_ee1 | rofl |
| 12:50.05 | baer_ | pb_ee1, yes, i'm here. .) |
| 12:50.40 | pb_ee1 | What's up on the translation? ;) |
| 12:51.02 | Amadeo | "What is that?" "It looks like GRUB!" |
| 12:51.10 | Amadeo | "Oh my God!" |
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| 12:57.10 | Amadeo | Can Druids level fast? |
| 12:57.20 | Birdemani | not the first 20 levels |
| 12:57.28 | Birdemani | and you have to do it as feral |
| 12:57.35 | Amadeo | After that? |
| 12:57.48 | odt | every class who wants to level fast has to do it in their dps build |
| 12:57.49 | CIA-22 | 03wobin * r44985 10FuBar_HeyFu/Core.lua: FuBar_HeyFu: Fixed Do not disturb mode, can now set message to reply or have a default one. |
| 12:57.57 | odt | then there's not much difference |
| 12:58.13 | Amadeo | I've never played a Druid past 15 or so |
| 12:58.18 | Amadeo | because I became pretty damn bored |
| 12:58.19 | Amadeo | haha |
| 12:58.22 | odt | mages are ofc imba with clearing a whole village in a minute |
| 12:58.37 | Birdemani | mages and hunters are two of the best to level |
| 12:58.46 | Amadeo | hm, I forgot about Hunters |
| 12:58.48 | Amadeo | that could be fun |
| 12:59.04 | Amadeo | probably easier to level than a Druid |
| 12:59.14 | Birdemani | druid is one of the worst |
| 12:59.25 | Birdemani | shadow priest isnt nbad i found out |
| 12:59.28 | Amadeo | which race is best for Hunters? :) |
| 12:59.29 | Birdemani | thought it was easier than warrior |
| 12:59.30 | charon | Amadeo: (feral) druid gets better after 20 when you get cat form |
| 12:59.43 | Amadeo | charon: Yeah, I imagine...just dunno if I wanna wait, lol |
| 13:00.29 | Amadeo | Hell, I don't even know what races can be Hunters |
| 13:00.52 | Amadeo | NE, BE, Dwarf, Tauren, Orc... |
| 13:00.59 | Birdemani | of those |
| 13:01.02 | Amadeo | Who else? |
| 13:01.03 | sb | Troll |
| 13:01.06 | Birdemani | oh ya, dranei |
| 13:01.07 | Amadeo | Troll, yeah |
| 13:01.20 | Birdemani | dranei is good, can heal your own pet |
| 13:01.31 | Birdemani | orc is good due ot stun resist and pet bonus |
| 13:01.41 | charon | Amadeo: just saying :) i'm no benchmark, i've only levelled mage and druid |
| 13:01.43 | Birdemani | tauren is good due to war stomp |
| 13:01.46 | Amadeo | charon: heheh :) |
| 13:01.48 | Saladin | Trolls get imba racial :D |
| 13:02.00 | Birdemani | fuck trolls and Nelfs |
| 13:02.19 | Birdemani | for pvp dwarf is really good as well due to stone form |
| 13:02.31 | Amadeo | Well, I'm gonna be Horde side..so I'm thinking Orc or Tauren |
| 13:02.45 | Saladin | tauren imo |
| 13:02.48 | Birdemani | i'd go orc just for pvp imo |
| 13:02.50 | cncfanatics | Amadeo, rerolling ? :o |
| 13:03.01 | Amadeo | well, kinda...I just need a side project :) |
| 13:03.05 | Amadeo | I'm giving up my main(s) for now |
| 13:03.07 | Birdemani | the pet bonus isnt much, but the stun resist is |
| 13:03.10 | cncfanatics | class ? |
| 13:03.20 | Amadeo | old? Warrior is my 70 |
| 13:03.26 | cncfanatics | new ? |
| 13:03.42 | Amadeo | Paladin that I play with someone, so it's slow...and now I want another to level up on the same server |
| 13:04.00 | cncfanatics | Paladin aint slower to lvl then other classes imo |
| 13:04.03 | cncfanatics | just lvl him without that guy :p |
| 13:04.13 | Amadeo | Hey, my girlfriend isn't a guy :P |
| 13:04.42 | Amadeo | no worries, I'm in no rush with him |
| 13:04.47 | Amadeo | I'm not planning to raid or anything |
| 13:04.56 | Amadeo | I just figure I can make some money on another char, since I picked a random server |
| 13:07.07 | Amadeo | I'm leaning towards Orc for the Hunter, but Warstomp is nice.. |
| 13:07.31 | cncfanatics | hunter is boring imo |
| 13:07.36 | cncfanatics | tried till level 20 and gave up out of boredom |
| 13:08.16 | Amadeo | I played one years ago, to 20-something |
| 13:08.19 | Amadeo | I had a lot of fun |
| 13:08.38 | Funkeh` | whats the highest quality for screenshotQuality |
| 13:08.46 | Fisker- | not know |
| 13:08.47 | Fisker- | n |
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| 13:08.49 | Fisker- | i think it's 10 though |
| 13:08.57 | haste | it's 10 |
| 13:08.59 | Amadeo | lol |
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| 13:12.15 | break19 | Amadeo: here's how to speed-level a pally.. go prot.. spec redoubt.. fight groups of 4 to 5 at once.. :) |
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| 13:12.43 | Amadeo | redo that, tell me how to speed level a paladin that's always going to duo with a Mage :P |
| 13:12.46 | break19 | seal of light + judge of light = mana-free heals |
| 13:12.53 | break19 | Amadeo: even better :) |
| 13:13.07 | break19 | once the pally has dropped a consecration or two, the mage can aoe |
| 13:14.02 | Amadeo | hmm, sounds interesting |
| 13:14.18 | break19 | man. I miss daoc's pallys.. that block they had.. you could block an attack meant for a party member... |
| 13:14.57 | alext | yes ;[ |
| 13:14.58 | break19 | as long as they were close enough to ya.. it was only good for 1 (i think.. could've been more) |
| 13:15.02 | alext | that was my main, 50 pally |
| 13:15.14 | alext | I expected wow pallys to be the same but they werent |
| 13:15.22 | alext | daoc pally was a glorified tank |
| 13:15.35 | break19 | alext: I had a 50 earthwizzy.. I loved pallys and always stood right next to em, sayin "block on me please!" |
| 13:15.45 | alext | nice |
| 13:15.52 | alext | 50 fire wiz, 50 infiltrator, 50 pally |
| 13:15.54 | alext | before I quit |
| 13:16.06 | break19 | inf? I couldnt get mine past the mid 20s.. |
| 13:16.20 | break19 | I had a bard too.. got him to 30ish |
| 13:16.23 | alext | yah I dunno how I did it |
| 13:16.37 | alext | TOA ruined it all for me though |
| 13:16.47 | break19 | i quit after the 3rd expansion |
| 13:16.53 | alext | sorry but I dont have 24 hours a day to grind out trials |
| 13:16.57 | break19 | the water one i think |
| 13:17.01 | alext | yah TOA |
| 13:17.03 | break19 | yea |
| 13:17.04 | alext | trials of atlantis |
| 13:17.06 | break19 | that was it |
| 13:17.11 | alext | I got 2 "ML" weapons |
| 13:17.13 | break19 | i made a sylvan |
| 13:17.17 | alext | and realized it took me like 2 months |
| 13:17.21 | break19 | and got bored. |
| 13:17.32 | alext | and all the hardcore people had like Master Level 5 and all these "artifact" weapons |
| 13:17.42 | alext | sucked |
| 13:17.53 | break19 | i know. |
| 13:17.54 | alext | they got a good thing going with their Classic Server cluster |
| 13:18.01 | alext | its everything EXCEPT TOA |
| 13:18.07 | alext | eliminates buffbots |
| 13:18.08 | alext | no TOA |
| 13:18.19 | break19 | for the first 2 expansions, casuals could actually keep up. |
| 13:18.22 | alext | real nice...would have been nicer if we could transfer our people over, even with no gear |
| 13:18.27 | alext | yah |
| 13:18.34 | alext | well the classic servers are where most of DAOC's population is now |
| 13:18.42 | break19 | imo what killed it was the free 20s |
| 13:18.49 | alext | I would have stayed but leaving 3 50's and starting over wasnt what I had in mind |
| 13:18.50 | break19 | it *killed* the 1-19 levels |
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| 13:19.13 | alext | well yeah but everyone wanted end-game anyways |
| 13:19.38 | alext | sad to see the low level zones that used to be filled at launch completely barren though |
| 13:20.05 | break19 | yea.. no way for true newbies to find not-so-newbies that could show em the ropes.. |
| 13:20.16 | alext | yup |
| 13:21.04 | break19 | when I first started, I had a friend with a high ice wiz.. i'd fight, he'd go around aoe'ing after I'd hit em all. |
| 13:21.26 | break19 | i got the first 10 or so levels very quick. lol |
| 13:21.56 | alext | I bet |
| 13:22.12 | break19 | then he gave me some cash and sent me to town to run cats |
| 13:22.25 | CIA-22 | 03athou * r44986 10FuBar_RaidBuffFu/ (FuBar_RaidBuffFu.lua localization.lua): |
| 13:22.25 | CIA-22 | FuBar_RaidBuffFu: |
| 13:22.25 | CIA-22 | - Shift+Click on a buff prints people missing that buff |
| 13:23.10 | break19 | main thing I miss about daoc.. the pvp was AWESOME |
| 13:24.05 | break19 | it actually real, instead of just friggin "Capture the flag! capture the resource!" you had to destroy their place with seige engines like catapults and stuff.. that was fun as hell. |
| 13:25.04 | break19 | wow got closer to it with the towers and stufff in outlands and epl.. but its not the same. |
| 13:25.16 | alext | yah |
| 13:25.56 | charon | it's predictably wrong (i.e. inefficient wrt. the objective) to even fight for the towers in hellfire |
| 13:26.00 | charon | so you can't really call it pvp |
| 13:26.08 | charon | it's more like running around in circles |
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| 13:26.29 | break19 | 4 hib enchanters, doin pbaoe right at the tower captain.. inf's climbing up the walls to take out healers that are rezzing the enemy's that we've killed. awesome |
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| 13:27.18 | break19 | "GET THAT FRIGGIN THANE! He's already took out an entire group with that effing hammer!" |
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| 13:27.41 | alext | haha yeah |
| 13:27.58 | alext | I did plenty of the wall climbing |
| 13:28.01 | alext | funnest part |
| 13:28.04 | break19 | archers on the walls 1shotting casters.. :) |
| 13:28.25 | break19 | earth wizzies just behind the door, gtaoe'ing all the enemies at the door |
| 13:28.29 | Amadeo | AE DoT's were pretty wild |
| 13:28.36 | break19 | oh god yea |
| 13:28.54 | break19 | 2 or 3 aoe dots and you were in some SERIOUS hurt |
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| 13:30.18 | Amadeo | Old DAoC was great, I enjoyed it a lot...looking forward to Warhammer and hoping Mythic really did learn from their mistakes as they claim |
| 13:30.27 | break19 | just some fyi for those who care: gtaoe = wow's aoe (think flamestrike, or volley, or blizzard), pbaoe, think arcane explosion.. daoc's regular aoe targetted an enemy and just hit others that happened to be near him |
| 13:30.56 | break19 | gtaoe didnt require line of sight, which was nice |
| 13:31.21 | break19 | but if you werent in los, you were basically shooting blind.. |
| 13:31.43 | break19 | but you'd put your target, and then you could cast at that place over and over, no matter where you were. |
| 13:32.09 | break19 | I'd get on top of the tower, set my target just outside the door, then climb down inside, so I could reach the target, and cast away |
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| 13:32.16 | break19 | sometimes I'd hit stuff, sometimes I wouldnt |
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| 13:33.02 | break19 | the earth wiz's biggest thing was the excellent buffs they brought along |
| 13:33.24 | CIA-22 | 03athou * r44987 10FuBar_RaidBuffFu/ (FuBar_RaidBuffFu.lua localization.lua): |
| 13:33.24 | CIA-22 | FuBar_RaidBuffFu: |
| 13:33.24 | CIA-22 | - Alt+Click on any line now prints all missing buffs (useful when tooltip is detached) |
| 13:33.37 | snapcase | anyone know if Prat can hilight text including my characters name? |
| 13:33.41 | break19 | put a high level dmg shield buff + weapon buff on a lowbie, they could kill reds all day long :) |
| 13:34.06 | Amadeo | wow, the premades are no joke these days |
| 13:34.11 | Amadeo | 36 slots bags and all, lol |
| 13:35.10 | break19 | snapcase: i think so. |
| 13:35.32 | snapcase | Can't seem to find it however. Only found how to filter/replace. |
| 13:37.21 | charon | snapcase: from TFWP: "CustomFilters by - Allows create your own filters for both inbound and outbound chat which can replace/remove/highlight chat message text.(default=off)." |
| 13:37.29 | charon | (i'm at work, no WoW to try) |
| 13:39.11 | Dustwhisper| | http://www.curse.com/downloads/details/2235/ |
| 13:39.17 | Dustwhisper| | someone please remake that or something for TBC |
| 13:39.20 | Dustwhisper| | neeed only |
| 13:39.38 | Dynom | who of you addicts broke MSN! |
| 13:40.09 | snapcase | charon: it's so frustrating. I only manage to replace and hilight or remove :P |
| 13:40.32 | Garns | Dustwhisper| : there is some Cooldown pulse addon for TBC |
| 13:40.49 | trh | or you can enable "pulse" in omniCC - it pulses at the icons position |
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| 13:42.55 | Garns | ~1min search: http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info4511-JIMsCooldownPulse.html |
| 13:43.51 | charon | Dustwhisper|: or you can use the "cooldown up" announcement features in CooldownTimers or Parrot |
| 13:44.03 | charon | snapcase: seems i fell for the marketspeak. |
| 13:46.01 | Dustwhisper| | Garns that's the exact same mod |
| 13:46.04 | Dustwhisper| | last updated 9th of january |
| 13:46.21 | Dustwhisper| | i use that charon |
| 13:46.29 | Dustwhisper| | but i want the exact same functionality of jim's |
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| 13:46.56 | Garns | did you try it? cause last thing i heard was it works although its quite old |
| 13:47.23 | Garns | and a january version should be bc compatible |
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| 13:59.07 | Dustwhisper| | Yes it errored |
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| 14:07.34 | CIA-22 | 03duerma * r44988 10RPHelper2/ (29 files in 2 dirs): |
| 14:07.34 | CIA-22 | RPHelper2: |
| 14:07.34 | CIA-22 | - Fixed German files so they are actually functional |
| 14:07.34 | CIA-22 | - Added custom events |
| 14:07.34 | CIA-22 | - Added mail events |
| 14:07.35 | CIA-22 | - Fixed various bugs |
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| 14:25.04 | deltron | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UxWgRY1I_SI <-- LMAO |
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| 14:26.10 | CIA-22 | FuBar_RaidBuffFu: |
| 14:26.10 | CIA-22 | - bugfixing in group sorting |
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| 14:29.56 | Health | http://imgnation.net/images/fkft.jpg |
| 14:30.11 | Gngsk | hehe |
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| 14:40.53 | Dustwhisper| | most of our priests have gone from +81 healing to spellsurge on their weapons now |
| 14:40.58 | jme | deltron: http://youtube.com/watch?v=fWvAznIRVLA |
| 14:40.58 | Dustwhisper| | weird tbh |
| 14:41.00 | jme | deltron: lol |
| 14:41.16 | jme | deltron: that guy is very enthusiastic |
| 14:41.26 | vhaarr | Dustwhisper|: your priests should never have had +81 healing in the first place, they should have +20 spirit |
| 14:41.34 | Dustwhisper| | lol why on earth |
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| 14:44.46 | dodgizzla | lel spirit is teh suck, spellsurge is way better. 5 healers in a group, all with spellsurge, beats +20 spirit or +81 heal every time |
| 14:45.58 | Dustwhisper| | yea we have 3-4 healers in group with spellsurge |
| 14:46.06 | sb | same here <3 spellsurge |
| 14:46.25 | sb | dodgizzla: better 4 healer w/ spellsurge + shadow :p |
| 14:46.53 | dodgizzla | ah whatever :D people give me mana potions because they don't need them with me in group :D |
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| 14:54.42 | Dynom | what does spellsurge do btw |
| 14:55.06 | ccKep | Permanently enchant a Melee Weapon to have a 3% chance on spellcast to restore 100 mana to all party members over 10 seconds. Requires a level 35 or higher item. |
| 14:55.06 | dodgizzla | Chance on spellcast to gain 100 Mana over 10s |
| 14:55.29 | dodgizzla | It procs from nearly everything and has an internal cooldown of 30 seconds |
| 14:55.32 | Dynom | k |
| 14:56.03 | Dynom | 100 mana every 30 seconds |
| 14:56.13 | ccKep | I read it has 50-60s internal cooldown? |
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| 14:57.17 | ccKep | anyway, don't see the profit of it.. /me hugs +81 healing |
| 14:57.42 | Dynom | regen > spellbonus |
| 14:57.53 | ccKep | regen = cheapest itemstat there is |
| 14:58.28 | Dynom | I see a win-win situation |
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| 14:58.49 | ccKep | you easily gain alone 100mp5 when chugging mana potions, add that to the standart mp5 you have (depending on clas) and you have 250-300mp5 while casting.. don't see how one would need more regen |
| 14:58.58 | ccKep | I tend to finish fights not at >90% mana :o |
| 14:59.38 | dodgizzla | ccKep: Honestly, with >1500 Heal.. what's +81 there? |
| 14:59.45 | dodgizzla | +81 gives you nothing if you're oom :D |
| 15:00.06 | Dynom | exactly |
| 15:00.55 | ccKep | tell me one fight you go oom with 250-300mp5 while casting, without blindly nuking greater heals at everyone |
| 15:01.19 | dodgizzla | Okay, spellsurge has 50s cooldown |
| 15:01.26 | ccKep | (shaman here, so mana efficiency definetaly is an issue for me) |
| 15:01.34 | dodgizzla | ccKep: If you have 10 healers, yeah I don't see that |
| 15:01.45 | dodgizzla | But if you stack DPS and are tight on healers, that might happen |
| 15:01.45 | Keya | hm we do Karazhan with only 2 healers, t4 or lower equip, yes, I know plenty of tight fights |
| 15:01.48 | ccKep | we run 6-7 healers most of the time |
| 15:03.06 | ccKep | well, I can't comment on Hyjal / BT.. we're currently working on Kael, so no entry yet |
| 15:03.08 | Cryect | +81 give you +20 heal on each HOT tick? |
| 15:03.19 | Cryect | err a little less than that actually |
| 15:03.29 | Silviu- | ccKep what server ? ;) |
| 15:03.32 | ccKep | I don't have hots ^.^ (except my racial 3min-hot) |
| 15:03.37 | Keya | if you're druid, hot will get 80% |
| 15:03.39 | ccKep | Silviu-: EU-Blackhand |
| 15:03.45 | Silviu- | Okay |
| 15:03.49 | Silviu- | Gorgonnash |
| 15:03.53 | Keya | as for hots +heal is 15 second-normized |
| 15:03.56 | Silviu- | And we are at Kael too ;) |
| 15:03.59 | dodgizzla | ccKep: Meh, it's probably personal preference. If +81 works for you/your raid then go for it. I prefer Spellsurge on my healing gear, so whatever :D |
| 15:04.08 | jme | Silviu-: heh, is the hunter still playing? Fubarius or whatever, the one that made those Huntology movies |
| 15:04.10 | Cryect | Keya right its just 20% for each tick |
| 15:04.19 | jme | Silviu-: assuming gorgonnash US |
| 15:05.05 | ccKep | I had 165mp5 while casting unbuffed once.. then I started decreasing that and using mana potions |
| 15:05.06 | Dynom | afk |
| 15:05.27 | ccKep | http://armory.wow-europe.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Blackhand&n=D%C3%A9ie |
| 15:05.34 | ccKep | 138mp5 now |
| 15:05.42 | deltron | I'm low on my mp5 :( |
| 15:05.48 | sb | ccKep: ~200mp5 and still using mana potions :p |
| 15:05.51 | deltron | I'm 12k mana unbuffed now though :D |
| 15:05.53 | Silviu- | jme eu |
| 15:06.02 | jme | Silviu-: oh |
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| 15:07.06 | ccKep | dodgizzla: I'm in the melee dps group most of the time, so spellsurge isn't an option for me anyways |
| 15:07.34 | Silviu- | I`m in tank grp all the time :/ |
| 15:07.41 | Silviu- | <- warlock |
| 15:07.52 | ccKep | played warlock pre-BC |
| 15:07.53 | deltron | http://armory.worldofwarcraft.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Suramar&n=Diode <-- me |
| 15:08.08 | ccKep | leveled him to 70, ran kara, gruul, mag and decided I dont like it anymore ^.^ |
| 15:08.27 | Silviu- | I play it from ... hmm 2 years or so :) |
| 15:08.41 | ccKep | yeah, played it since release too |
| 15:08.47 | deltron | heh I've played my shaman since release |
| 15:08.50 | ccKep | but I think blizz gave too much love to them |
| 15:08.55 | Silviu- | Yup :) |
| 15:09.11 | ccKep | when we ran naxx and that warlock-affliction patch came... well, wow |
| 15:09.19 | Silviu- | http://armory.wow-europe.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Gorgonnash&n=Littleone |
| 15:09.20 | ccKep | dot it all up and you're #1 on the charts ^.^ |
| 15:09.28 | Silviu- | True ;) |
| 15:09.29 | jme | heh |
| 15:09.40 | Keya | i played alliance at first, paladin, switched horde on same server, and i'm now a happy pally once more |
| 15:10.00 | Silviu- | ^^ |
| 15:10.04 | Keya | (played druid and hunter in between) |
| 15:10.10 | ccKep | nihilum has one badass warlock, it must be a dps-monster |
| 15:10.14 | ccKep | let me get armory link |
| 15:10.19 | jme | is he in T6 yet? |
| 15:10.28 | ccKep | http://armory.wow-europe.com/#character-sheet.xml?r=Magtheridon&n=Buzzkill |
| 15:10.33 | Silviu- | One friend of mine played a rogue on my server ally , deleted played a horde hunter till 60 too delete him and now again 60 warri ally :)) |
| 15:10.36 | ccKep | dunno why he wears eye of mag though.... |
| 15:10.45 | ccKep | since he's hitcapped |
| 15:11.21 | ccKep | ~1400 spelldamage, hitcapped, 21% crit, and that T6 bonus.. wohooo |
| 15:11.23 | jme | 4/5 T6 O_o |
| 15:11.29 | deltron | holy crap |
| 15:11.35 | Silviu- | 4 t6 nice ;) |
| 15:11.37 | ccKep | dunno how much dps that guy must put out |
| 15:11.47 | ccKep | but that eye of mag is pretty crappe with 16% hit I guess |
| 15:11.50 | Silviu- | More then me of course ;) |
| 15:11.54 | jme | their MT has 4/5 T6, don't know why he doesn't get the legs |
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| 15:12.17 | Silviu- | Like me why i did not get my t5 shoulders |
| 15:12.18 | Silviu- | don`t drop |
| 15:12.24 | Silviu- | Only warri/priest combo |
| 15:12.24 | Silviu- | :/ |
| 15:12.31 | Silviu- | 3 dropped till now |
| 15:12.37 | Silviu- | And went for 700 dkp lol |
| 15:12.44 | jme | ouch |
| 15:12.48 | Silviu- | Usually an t5 is 200 ... |
| 15:12.49 | Silviu- | ;) |
| 15:12.51 | Silviu- | 300 |
| 15:12.56 | dodgizzla | I'd take a pair of those :P |
| 15:12.57 | jme | we just roll |
| 15:13.07 | Silviu- | jme can i join ? ;) |
| 15:13.09 | jme | then again we aren't hardcore raiding, still farming kara |
| 15:13.13 | Silviu- | I`m lucky with rolls ;p |
| 15:13.15 | jme | lol |
| 15:13.21 | jme | i rolled an 8 on my t4 gloves |
| 15:13.24 | Keya | < still lacking 5 healing plate items from karazhan after 10 weeks |
| 15:13.32 | Silviu- | Well we do kara now too |
| 15:13.35 | Silviu- | But twink raid |
| 15:13.42 | Silviu- | in 40 mins i must mt again |
| 15:13.43 | Silviu- | ;)) |
| 15:13.46 | jme | we can't get anything except the freaking paladin healing gloves and something else to drop from curator |
| 15:13.46 | Silviu- | With my dudu |
| 15:13.47 | Silviu- | :) |
| 15:13.53 | jme | i got the ring the one time it dropped |
| 15:13.56 | Keya | I'd love to twink, i just can't with my bad luck for my main |
| 15:13.58 | Silviu- | Hope for my t4 gloves today ;) |
| 15:14.10 | jme | yeah i'm hoping for them next week. |
| 15:14.12 | dodgizzla | We do Karazhan for 3-4 months now. Never had Mongoose, Sunfire, Netherspites Healing Cloth Pants and more other stuff drop :\ |
| 15:14.24 | dodgizzla | Only once dropped Shadow Cloak of Dalaran and I wasn't there that day. |
| 15:14.28 | dodgizzla | I hate Kara :\ |
| 15:14.32 | jme | lol |
| 15:14.40 | ccKep | we had our first healing mace drop in kara last ID |
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| 15:14.45 | jme | i got my belt from illhoof.. haven't seen the dps cloak drop from shade yet though |
| 15:14.52 | ccKep | and we've been farming it for month too, with 2 groups |
| 15:15.04 | deltron | I only have one enchant from kara |
| 15:15.15 | Silviu- | Hmm that sword from Archimonde is nice |
| 15:15.15 | Silviu- | :D |
| 15:15.16 | dodgizzla | There were streaks where only the bow dropped from Prince for like 5 weeks. And we don't even had hunters.. |
| 15:15.24 | Keya | I got my t4 helmet last week - 2nd t4 helmet of that group. chess-shield droppt once in 9 weeks, nightbane's never, shard of maiden once... I hate my raid loot-wise |
| 15:15.41 | Keya | we've had 5 drops of gorehowl |
| 15:15.45 | jme | lol |
| 15:15.51 | jme | we can't get gorehowl to drop |
| 15:15.55 | jme | they finally got despair last night though |
| 15:15.56 | Silviu- | ;)) |
| 15:15.57 | ccKep | yeah, gorehowl is our 80% drop too |
| 15:16.00 | deltron | that shield from chest never drops when I'm on my shaman :( |
| 15:16.22 | jme | we can't get legacy either for that matter, i think we've only had the crone event happen once |
| 15:16.28 | dodgizzla | deltron:You know you can relog after opening the chest? |
| 15:16.37 | Keya | actually I've gotten more def plate from Kara than healing plate |
| 15:16.37 | CIA-22 | 03funkydude * r44991 10BigWigs/ (Plugins/Bars.lua Prototype.lua): BigWigs: minor speedups |
| 15:16.52 | Keya | crone is our 7/9 event |
| 15:16.57 | jme | ugh |
| 15:17.02 | deltron | dodgizzla: yeah, but someone in group usually needs it |
| 15:17.09 | deltron | I'm not gonna steal it :P |
| 15:17.16 | dodgizzla | deltron: Why not :DD |
| 15:17.29 | jme | i've seen BBW three times and R&J twice |
| 15:17.32 | jme | crone once |
| 15:18.07 | deltron | lol |
| 15:18.43 | CIA-22 | 03funkydude * r44992 10BigWigs/Prototype.lua: BigWigs: formatting fix |
| 15:18.58 | Keya | what hasn't dropped at all in our raid so far: Aran's shoulder, Illhoof's breast, Netherspite's girdle, Moroes's shoes |
| 15:19.47 | Keya | but on the other hand, I might end up MT anyway IF our MT puts his plan into action of playing his priest |
| 15:19.55 | ccKep | I've been collecting some enhancement equip as of lately... farming underbog since 3 weeks (nearly daily) now but the first boss still won't drop the offhand fist weapon... -.- |
| 15:20.33 | ccKep | should've done arena stuff, but I'm not a fan of pvp -.- |
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| 15:23.37 | ccKep | me, want to kill kael... first hyjal and BT bosses seem really easy, compared to him |
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| 15:24.47 | durcyn | cckep: they are. KT is probably the single most complicated fight in the game right now. |
| 15:24.48 | ccKep | many guilds take down 2 in hyjal and 3 in BT the same ID they kill kael.. want too ^.^ |
| 15:24.48 | Silviu- | ccKep at what phase are u ? |
| 15:24.56 | ccKep | 58% |
| 15:25.01 | ccKep | 1-3 are pretty solid |
| 15:25.06 | Silviu- | Yes |
| 15:25.11 | ccKep | but didn't have too many time to practice 4 |
| 15:25.19 | Silviu- | We die at 4 |
| 15:25.25 | ccKep | phoenixes making some trouble |
| 15:25.26 | vhaarr | Funkeh`: your commits are not speedups, revert them please |
| 15:25.39 | Wobin | I can't believe I outdamaged this MM hunter by 140,000 damage |
| 15:25.58 | jme | Wobin: i always outdamage our MM hunter, as BM |
| 15:26.04 | Wobin | yeah |
| 15:26.06 | jme | i can't get him to switch |
| 15:26.09 | ccKep | BM ftw |
| 15:26.16 | Wobin | That's not even counting my pet |
| 15:26.16 | Funkeh` | vhaarr pm |
| 15:26.18 | ccKep | the +3% group buff kicks ass too |
| 15:26.20 | jme | Wobin: lol |
| 15:26.35 | Wobin | Which is another 190k more |
| 15:27.22 | ccKep | durcyn: how complicated is p5 in execution? or.. how many tries p5 does the average guild eventually need to get him down? |
| 15:27.25 | jme | he's got a few more epics than i do but i still outgear him stats wise |
| 15:27.31 | jme | and damage wise |
| 15:27.50 | durcyn | ccKep: p5 is simple enough |
| 15:28.10 | ZealotOnAStick | we beat Kael'thas the first time we got him into Phase 5. |
| 15:28.14 | jme | he's MM, his RAP is about 1700, crit just above mine, but his hit rating is way low at around 30 or 40 |
| 15:28.20 | durcyn | just don't get nuked by the flying shit |
| 15:28.30 | ccKep | he doesn't seem to have that much hitpoints as I expected the first time |
| 15:28.38 | jme | http://armory.worldofwarcraft.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Stormreaver&n=Kadrahil <- me |
| 15:28.43 | ccKep | thought we have to nuke him like 15 minutes to reach p5 lol |
| 15:28.59 | ccKep | but he was quickly at 58%.. well, then we pyro'd our MT ^.^ |
| 15:29.00 | ZealotOnAStick | Phase 4 is the rough one, and it going smoothly requires handling Phase 3 well enough that you've only got 1 advisor up at the start (or maybe 1 up and one damn near dead) |
| 15:29.01 | jme | ^ is always in top 3 dps, usually top two or first until lock uses seed of corruption |
| 15:29.02 | Antiarc|Work | ............. |
| 15:29.02 | Antiarc|Work | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DNO6G4ApJQY |
| 15:29.18 | Wobin | jme: http://tinyurl.com/2c28ug <-- me |
| 15:29.24 | ccKep | we only have the caster advisor up at 4 |
| 15:29.30 | ccKep | forgot the name |
| 15:29.39 | ZealotOnAStick | Capernian. |
| 15:29.46 | ccKep | as I said, phoenixes are fucking us up |
| 15:29.47 | ZealotOnAStick | That's fine, she drops fast with focus fire. |
| 15:29.54 | ccKep | guess a little more practice then |
| 15:29.54 | jme | Wobin: why 46 in BM? |
| 15:29.56 | ZealotOnAStick | You kiting them or tanking them? |
| 15:30.03 | ccKep | tanking, currently |
| 15:30.07 | ccKep | with a feral druid |
| 15:30.22 | ccKep | next to kael, so melee dps can help burning the egg |
| 15:30.29 | ZealotOnAStick | we had the best luck with tanking, with a feral druid main and the warlock who does Capernian as backup. |
| 15:30.31 | ccKep | (thats the theory... have yet to see one egg die) |
| 15:30.54 | ZealotOnAStick | Yeah, entire raid, other than -maybe- melee, needs to switch to the eggs the second they're up. |
| 15:31.16 | Dustwhisper| | i am not looking forward to the day we get to kael'thas |
| 15:31.20 | ccKep | do you do damage to the phoenixes or let them die by themselves? |
| 15:31.22 | Dustwhisper| | itll be a month to kill him probably |
| 15:31.29 | ZealotOnAStick | We let the first 2 phoenixes hellfire themselves to death, killing their eggs when they spawn, then burn down the third asap so its egg is down before Kael's shield goes up. |
| 15:31.33 | Cryect | Kael is definately one of the bigger blocks |
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| 15:31.42 | Cryect | too many stages to the fight |
| 15:31.51 | ccKep | our 2nd phoenix dies the same time the shield comes up Oo |
| 15:31.58 | Wobin | jme: It's not a final spec |
| 15:32.07 | ccKep | (without dpsing him) |
| 15:32.07 | jme | Wobin: fair enough |
| 15:32.09 | Wobin | it's more a learning spec, I'll respec at 70 |
| 15:32.12 | ZealotOnAStick | Well, he can, on rare occasion, summon the phoenixes really late. |
| 15:32.46 | jme | Wobin: 41/20 BM/MM is the way to go imo, except put 5 in imp aspect of the hawk (i didn't think about that) |
| 15:32.54 | ccKep | I thought about telling our raid to always dps the phoenixes down (if the shield timer allows to) and risk having to dps one shield more |
| 15:33.01 | jme | although i don't use hawk in instances, at all |
| 15:33.02 | ZealotOnAStick | anyway, I've got to go hop in the shower. Good luck - just will take more practice and repetition. Dear god so much repetition . . . |
| 15:33.11 | durcyn | ccKep: ranged should be on phoenixes/eggs anyway |
| 15:33.11 | Cryect | ccKep: if its going to coincide with a shield coming up just let the phoenix kill itself |
| 15:33.42 | durcyn | we have a warlock remove salv then shadowburn kite it way from the melee |
| 15:33.48 | durcyn | with coex/slow |
| 15:34.02 | Cryect | why bother with coex and slow? its already damn slow |
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| 15:34.34 | Wobin | jme: I might go the BRK suggested spec |
| 15:34.34 | Cryect | guess keeps it closer to the melee then |
| 15:34.37 | durcyn | true. the important part is that it's not hellfiring melee |
| 15:34.42 | Cryect | yeah |
| 15:34.55 | Cryect | as long as its away from melee far enough its all good |
| 15:35.00 | vithos | i like 41/20 BM with 4/5 frenzy and 2/2 animal handler for raiding. and i always use hawk in raids |
| 15:35.03 | jme | Wobin: BRK? do you have a link? |
| 15:35.14 | Wobin | jme: bigredkitty.blogspot.com |
| 15:35.21 | Wobin | but that's 41/20 =) |
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| 15:35.32 | Wobin | really really good bm hunter blog |
| 15:35.53 | Cryect | archive.org real slow for anyone else or is there bad routing today |
| 15:36.07 | ccKep | capernian keeps freaking out sometimes in phase1, really annoying too |
| 15:36.11 | jme | http://webfreak.fallingsnow.net/wowscreenshot_flame.png <-- anyone have a clue what that is? |
| 15:36.15 | jme | Cryect: you too, that's on SR :P |
| 15:36.31 | Cryect | yes |
| 15:36.38 | ccKep | jme: adal's song of battle? |
| 15:36.48 | Cryect | thats the flame from the quest in SMV |
| 15:36.52 | durcyn | that's the event when someone turns in the KT neck token iirc |
| 15:36.53 | Megalon | jme: kael'thas kill |
| 15:36.56 | jme | ahh |
| 15:37.00 | Cryect | now why is it in shattrath unless it was model changing? |
| 15:37.07 | ccKep | http://www.wowhead.com/?spell=39953 |
| 15:37.10 | durcyn | there's this huge long stupid yelling session kael'thas does |
| 15:37.16 | Josh_Borke | oh, jme |
| 15:37.17 | durcyn | in the middle of shattrath |
| 15:37.29 | Cryect | oh is that what its from |
| 15:37.29 | Josh_Borke | we should all meet outside shattrath and have a fight to the death :-P |
| 15:37.33 | jme | Josh_Borke: k |
| 15:37.33 | durcyn | elves are so emo. |
| 15:37.40 | jme | Josh_Borke: you can mind control and heal me |
| 15:37.43 | jme | Josh_Borke: are you playing again? |
| 15:38.00 | ccKep | I hate these new quest reward buffs |
| 15:38.03 | Josh_Borke | jme: not yet, another week or 2 |
| 15:38.06 | jme | Josh_Borke: ahh |
| 15:38.07 | ccKep | ony / nefarian where nice |
| 15:38.13 | Cryect | ony/nef were too nice |
| 15:38.16 | ccKep | mag's and co is just stupid |
| 15:38.24 | Cryect | I'm glad they aren't like that |
| 15:38.26 | ccKep | reputaton with sha'tar.. yeah, I need that after killing kael |
| 15:38.37 | Josh_Borke | i was confused because i saw you and cryect talking and it took a second to click you were on SR and so was cryect |
| 15:38.39 | Cryect | don't want bosses built around killing with world buffs |
| 15:39.10 | ccKep | yeah, but it should be some kind of reward I think |
| 15:39.21 | Cryect | yeah it be nice if it actuall ybenefited you somewhat |
| 15:39.34 | Cryect | I think your reward though is called the item :-p |
| 15:39.37 | ccKep | noone goes to arca/mecha/bota after killing kael, lol :D |
| 15:39.49 | ccKep | I don't have enough dkp, I'll never see the item =) |
| 15:40.29 | ccKep | (although I don't even have 300 riding, but hey) |
| 15:40.51 | jme | i'm doing nothing but farming for 300 riding once i level mining and JC up |
| 15:41.10 | break19 | is there a way to make omen not show the version text at the bottom of it's window? and to make the window 100% transparent?.. same with violation? |
| 15:41.13 | ccKep | bought 300 riding skill + mount for my warlock as it hit 70 |
| 15:41.21 | ccKep | a week alter I started leveling the shaman, which is now my main |
| 15:41.37 | ccKep | *later |
| 15:41.50 | ccKep | so, out of money =) |
| 15:41.56 | jme | my hunter main still doesn't have it |
| 15:42.00 | jme | and i've been 70 for a few months |
| 15:42.17 | alext | break19: the version text is there because the addon is still in development and its helpful for support purposes in screenshots |
| 15:42.26 | ccKep | my shaman doesn't have professions, so it's not too bad... warlock is herbalism and alchemy, so its nice to have a fast mount there |
| 15:42.30 | alext | theres a way you can edit it out via a file but I dont know about that |
| 15:42.57 | break19 | alext: I am *more* interested in making the windows' backgrounds fully transparent... |
| 15:43.19 | alext | ah ok, not sure then |
| 15:43.27 | alext | thought I saw transparency options somewhere but I havent messed with it |
| 15:43.51 | break19 | I've gotten omen to be transparent.. but not violation |
| 15:44.18 | break19 | I cant find a "background" color setting anywhere in violation.. only colors I've seen are for the title and the bars |
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| 15:48.39 | ccKep | how many spell hit rating equals 1% spell hit? |
| 15:50.34 | Gngsk | http://www.wowwiki.com/Combat_Rating_System |
| 15:50.39 | ccKep | yeah, got it :D |
| 15:50.40 | ccKep | thanks |
| 15:52.50 | jme | http://www.groovygrooves.com/video/warcraft-dance-inspiration |
| 15:52.52 | jme | lol |
| 15:53.10 | jme | i've seen it before.. kinda oldish, but still good |
| 15:53.37 | Megalon | alizee |
| 15:53.38 | Megalon | :x |
| 15:54.12 | jme | lol @ the draenei dance |
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| 16:05.35 | jme | aww, they removed the balls of steel vent harassment video |
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| 16:07.57 | deltron | again? |
| 16:08.04 | jme | deltron: found it, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VLIqwdEFWt8 |
| 16:08.18 | deltron | I loved the wow harassment ones |
| 16:09.39 | jme | "get off vent, or i'll have you bent" |
| 16:09.41 | jme | epic |
| 16:10.09 | deltron | lol |
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| 16:16.34 | CIA-22 | 03cryect * r44994 10Recount/ (Fonts/ Fonts/ABF.ttf Fonts.lua Recount.lua WindowOrder.lua): |
| 16:16.34 | CIA-22 | Recount - A memory improvement in setting window levels |
| 16:16.34 | CIA-22 | - Adds ABF font and sets it as the default font used now |
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| 16:28.01 | Antiarc|Work | Did anyone manage to evaluate WhisperBid last night? |
| 16:28.05 | Antiarc|Work | (Seeking feedbacks!) |
| 16:28.46 | CIA-22 | 03belazor * r44996 10OneBag/OneCore.lua: |
| 16:28.46 | CIA-22 | OneBag: |
| 16:28.46 | CIA-22 | - Fixed grayed out bag problem. Thanks to Varinul of WoWInterface for the fix. |
| 16:29.20 | Kaelten|Work | you guys seen this: |
| 16:29.21 | Kaelten|Work | http://downloads.curse.com/ace/ |
| 16:30.02 | syeren | Yup. |
| 16:30.06 | syeren | We have files.wowace though! |
| 16:30.16 | Kaelten|Work | lol, which sucks in all honestly. |
| 16:30.50 | durcyn | whose sort function only works in certain browsers, i might add |
| 16:31.00 | Kaelten|Work | ya its javascript based |
| 16:31.07 | Kaelten|Work | anything js based is bound to be buggy somehwere |
| 16:31.17 | durcyn | lynx =( |
| 16:31.25 | Antiarc|Work | I've got an absolutely kickass JS sort if you want it, Kaelten|Work |
| 16:31.26 | durcyn | yes real people still use text browsers |
| 16:31.39 | Antiarc|Work | Seems to work in every JS-supportive browser I've seen. |
| 16:31.41 | durcyn | well, links/elinks in this case, but still. |
| 16:31.44 | Kaelten|Work | Antiarc|Work: you can check out the one on files.wowace.com and see if you think yours is any better |
| 16:31.56 | durcyn | and elinks even purports to support ECMAscript |
| 16:31.59 | Antiarc|Work | Sure, gimme a bit |
| 16:32.15 | Kaelten|Work | I'm wondering what he did to onebag |
| 16:32.27 | Kaelten|Work | my hypothosis abou that bug is that its related to frame strata |
| 16:32.39 | syeren | Antiarc|Work, did you manage to fix my problem with my arena team yet :P? |
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| 16:33.01 | Antiarc|Work | syeren: No, sorry. I just recently regained FTP access. |
| 16:33.26 | syeren | Oki Doki :) |
| 16:33.27 | Kaelten|Work | FTP? |
| 16:33.48 | durcyn | for his signature generator, i'd imagine |
| 16:33.54 | Kaelten|Work | ah |
| 16:34.28 | Antiarc|Work | Yeah, Bibi is hosting my tools on mmo-champion now |
| 16:34.43 | Antiarc|Work | Because they were running off of my home connection before, which was completely saturated |
| 16:34.49 | Kaelten|Work | lol |
| 16:34.49 | winkiller | hehe |
| 16:34.53 | winkiller | hm, I might update it sometime |
| 16:34.58 | winkiller | mirrored on my guildsite |
| 16:35.00 | Kaelten|Work | I'd have hosted them for you as well :P |
| 16:35.06 | winkiller | did you commit changes? :P |
| 16:35.15 | Antiarc|Work | Yeah, I did |
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| 16:35.19 | Antiarc|Work | Just some bugfixes mostly |
| 16:35.32 | winkiller | hm, after vacation then |
| 16:35.47 | winkiller | I still hate you for not telling me before I made my own tools :> |
| 16:35.51 | Antiarc|Work | Heh |
| 16:36.06 | Antiarc|Work | The good news is that the load average on my machine has dropped from about 6.5 to 0.2. |
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| 16:36.20 | winkiller | bugfixes or external hosting? |
| 16:36.23 | winkiller | ;) |
| 16:36.31 | Antiarc|Work | External hosting. |
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| 16:36.39 | Cryect | everyone stopped using him ;)! |
| 16:36.54 | Antiarc|Work | Well, that and I set up a RedirectPermanent over to mmo-champion |
| 16:37.06 | winkiller | oh! Cryect! very good job on Recount, dunno how I lived without it before... |
| 16:37.07 | jme | Antiarc|Work: should i turn that keylogger off then? |
| 16:37.09 | Antiarc|Work | So anyone hitting one of my URLs gets transparently redirected without ever invoking the PHP parser |
| 16:37.13 | winkiller | same for Omen, btw |
| 16:37.17 | jme | Antiarc|Work: ;) |
| 16:37.47 | jme | Antiarc|Work: what were you hosting? |
| 16:38.29 | Antiarc|Work | jme: My armory tools |
| 16:38.37 | Antiarc|Work | Now at http://armory.mmo-champion.com |
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| 16:38.48 | Antiarc|Work | The sigs was what was mostly killing it |
| 16:38.52 | jme | Antiarc|Work: ahh |
| 16:39.28 | Antiarc|Work | However, it's a hell of a testament to Coral that I was able to keep my box up and running serving 1.2 million dynamically-updating sigs off of a home cable connection. |
| 16:39.35 | winkiller | yesterday when checking my logs I noticed that I used 80GB/month. I always thought: "might hit my 200 GB limit soon" , then I noticed that I have 2TB/month >< |
| 16:39.48 | winkiller | guess the box would explode before I hit 2 TB |
| 16:40.05 | Kaydeethree | coral cache <3 |
| 16:40.29 | winkiller | I have signatures for another MMO, caching more than 2h is no option |
| 16:40.51 | winkiller | and dunno if coral works for 15min/30min/2h -caching |
| 16:40.58 | winkiller | and I lose my short urls |
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| 16:41.17 | Antiarc|Work | You can tell Coral to cache however long you want |
| 16:41.25 | Antiarc|Work | default is 12h |
| 16:41.34 | Antiarc|Work | Just use mod_expires or equivalent |
| 16:42.39 | winkiller | still, my sigs are so short: http://izlude.de/sig_Torian.png for example |
| 16:42.44 | winkiller | coral would triple that :P |
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| 16:46.09 | CIA-22 | 03funkydude * r44997 10BigWigs/ (Plugins/Bars.lua Prototype.lua): BigWigs: tweak to prevent possible future problems, revert if things break :| |
| 16:47.11 | Funkeh` | later folks |
| 16:48.52 | jme | Copies Remaining: 4 Average Wait Time: 4 days |
| 16:49.40 | Kaydeethree | don't trust it, my copies took less than 12 hours |
| 16:49.45 | jme | ah |
| 16:49.53 | Kaydeethree | 'course, it depends on whether or not the xver queue is working or not |
| 16:50.08 | jme | just copied a premade tauren hunter over.. heh |
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| 16:55.26 | jme | and mage, and a lock :o |
| 16:55.43 | jme | do they give you anything other than T6? riding, money.. |
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| 16:58.41 | Coruss | epic riding, 5k gold |
| 16:58.44 | Coruss | *epic flying |
| 16:58.47 | jme | ahh |
| 16:58.53 | Coruss | and the season 1 arena gear |
| 16:59.00 | Coruss | and a stink big pile of gems |
| 16:59.06 | jme | they give you that as well as T6 pve gear? |
| 16:59.08 | Coruss | ya |
| 16:59.11 | jme | nice. |
| 16:59.18 | Coruss | the hybrids get all 3 sets of t6 |
| 16:59.25 | jme | heh |
| 16:59.27 | Coruss | oh, and for some reason you get the grand marshal stuff too |
| 16:59.40 | Coruss | hmm what else |
| 16:59.54 | Coruss | piles of max level drinks, bandaids |
| 16:59.56 | jme | or the HWL for horde i assume |
| 17:00.00 | Coruss | ya |
| 17:00.12 | Coruss | sorry, I'm an alliance nub |
| 17:00.15 | jme | :P |
| 17:00.21 | Coruss | (on live at least, I play horde on test ^^) |
| 17:00.26 | jme | heh |
| 17:00.34 | Coruss | undead frost mage ftw |
| 17:00.50 | jme | yup, i just copied a hunter mage and lock over |
| 17:01.13 | Coruss | ya I wanted to try a max level mage in pvp, and test out the new changes to pallies |
| 17:01.24 | Coruss | oh ya, one big nasty, premades = no attunements |
| 17:01.29 | jme | awwww |
| 17:01.41 | Coruss | so if you want to raid kara, it's a long ass trip |
| 17:01.47 | jme | yeah |
| 17:01.58 | jme | lame |
| 17:02.08 | Coruss | realistically, they want people testing arena |
| 17:02.13 | jme | ahh. |
| 17:02.21 | Amadeo | this is so strange |
| 17:02.26 | Coruss | ? |
| 17:02.29 | Amadeo | I'm browsing the top 5v5 arena teams |
| 17:02.37 | Amadeo | every Paladin in them is a female BE |
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| 17:02.39 | jme | i haven't done much arena, just 12 games of 3v3 |
| 17:02.43 | Coruss | lol |
| 17:02.49 | jme | haha |
| 17:02.52 | Coruss | well #1, horde pallies can only be BE |
| 17:02.59 | Coruss | and who actually plays a male BE? |
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| 17:03.04 | jme | Coruss: i do :X |
| 17:03.08 | jme | i should've rolled a female |
| 17:03.22 | Coruss | lol, my horde pally on shattered halls is female BE |
| 17:03.35 | Coruss | brb, bio |
| 17:03.37 | Amadeo | haha |
| 17:03.50 | Amadeo | he's going to the biodome |
| 17:04.00 | jme | my hunter is a male BE... and my main... ;/ |
| 17:04.20 | Amadeo | you're that new to WoW? or you switched mains? |
| 17:04.32 | jme | i've been playing since november |
| 17:04.47 | Amadeo | wow |
| 17:04.56 | Amadeo | welcome aboard :D |
| 17:04.58 | jme | i had a few low level alliance toons on Malorne before i switched to Stormreaver in january and rolled horde |
| 17:05.21 | jme | i was a late comer to TBC and didn't get it until late febuary, when i started my hunter, and it became my main |
| 17:06.06 | jme | i never had anything above 22 before my hunter, hah.. just wasn't that serious about it then |
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| 17:06.46 | Amadeo | I remember how fun the game was when it was newer to me, let's trade places |
| 17:08.09 | durcyn | turn back now while there's still time |
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| 17:09.59 | Coruss | back |
| 17:10.34 | Coruss | lol, I can't turn back, I'm in too deep, up to the raid leading point |
| 17:10.57 | Coruss | I remember seeing a guildmate's talents on armory last night and damn near wanting to cry it was so bad |
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| 17:11.09 | CIA-22 | 03wessller * r44999 10autoedg/ (. AutoEDG.toc): |
| 17:11.09 | CIA-22 | autoedg: |
| 17:11.09 | CIA-22 | - initial commit, not yet ready for production use |
| 17:11.09 | Kemayo | Coruss: I play a male BE. :P |
| 17:11.38 | Coruss | ok fine, there are a few of you, but there's more fems |
| 17:11.42 | Kemayo | Female blood elves disturb me. They look like they have an eating disorder. |
| 17:11.58 | Coruss | what do you expect? they're modelled after bimbos |
| 17:12.06 | Amadeo | and bimbos only eat sausage |
| 17:12.26 | Coruss | lol |
| 17:12.41 | CIA-22 | 03cryect * r45000 10Recount/GUI_Detail.lua: |
| 17:12.42 | CIA-22 | Recount - Code for creating the summary report has been changed to use tables to specify the setup for readability |
| 17:12.42 | CIA-22 | - All summary fonts now can be swapped |
| 17:13.00 | Coruss | they make it painfully obvious, even when you're setting up your character, she cocks her head and gives a blank bored stare |
| 17:13.05 | Coruss | like she'd rather be shopping |
| 17:13.21 | Amadeo | the salute in game also, it's like..there, I did it, happy? |
| 17:13.31 | Coruss | yep |
| 17:14.06 | Kemayo | Personally, I love that male blood elves say "don't you wish your girlfriend was hot like me". |
| 17:15.08 | Fisker- | best get ever Cryect |
| 17:15.11 | Amadeo | I like the mirror one |
| 17:15.20 | Amadeo | or whatever it was |
| 17:15.42 | Amadeo | the "that was a trick question" |
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| 17:20.03 | *** topic/#wowace is http://www.wowace.com | http://files.wowace.com/ | http://ace.pastey.net | http://www.lua.org | http://wowace.com/wiki/Optimization | WAU2 beta started http://www.wowace.com/wau2/ | Sites back up and the restoration has began |
| 17:21.36 | Coruss | Amadeo: they don't really use seals |
| 17:21.52 | Coruss | mostly just flash heal and the blessings |
| 17:21.56 | Coruss | *flash of light |
| 17:23.06 | Amadeo | yeah, I figured, hehe |
| 17:23.12 | Amadeo | since you don't have time to melee |
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| 17:25.44 | Coruss | y |
| 17:25.46 | Coruss | *ya |
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| 17:32.01 | Galwar | Anyone have a few seconds to spare for a complete addon nub? :) |
| 17:32.15 | Galwar | I'm trying to figure out how to use '/cast' from an addon |
| 17:32.29 | Galwar | I know it's not ace related per say |
| 17:32.40 | Galwar | but I figured you guys might know :) |
| 17:33.21 | Antiarc|Work | ~api CastSpellByName |
| 17:33.22 | purl | http://www.wowwiki.com/API_CastSpellByName |
| 17:33.44 | Galwar | It's protected |
| 17:33.54 | Antiarc|Work | Yup. You need to use a secure template, as indicated on the page :) |
| 17:33.54 | Galwar | Can I still use it for some functions? |
| 17:34.16 | Galwar | Okay - I'm just a bit new to this |
| 17:34.28 | Galwar | just finished helloworld from blizz tutorial :) |
| 17:34.41 | Antiarc|Work | What are you trying to do? Perhaps I can make a more helpful suggestion :) |
| 17:35.06 | Galwar | /cast [noharm] Aspect of the Cheetah |
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| 17:35.34 | Antiarc|Work | Well, spellcasts require hardware input, so you may as well just do it with a macro |
| 17:35.45 | Galwar | hmm |
| 17:35.54 | Galwar | just that hunters loose their aspect when using windriders |
| 17:36.07 | Antiarc|Work | Yeah, you can't automatically re-enable it, I'm afraid. |
| 17:36.12 | Galwar | very annoying - wanted to be able to set last used aspect |
| 17:36.15 | Galwar | ok |
| 17:36.20 | Galwar | damn |
| 17:36.22 | Galwar | :) |
| 17:36.44 | Antiarc|Work | Might I suggest a post in the bug report forums? Maybe they'll fix that in the next patch or two. |
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| 17:37.22 | Chompers | Antiarc: have you considered my idea for name filtering in Omen? |
| 17:37.33 | Galwar | I'll try Antiarc |
| 17:37.51 | Chompers | i was thinking, maybe have an option in Omen to only show the people in the main tank list as well |
| 17:39.44 | Starinnia | stupid question, how do i get the revision number in my files when i commit stuff? |
| 17:40.30 | Galwar | Antiarc - the bug forums are on the US website or? cant find a bug forum on the eu page |
| 17:40.45 | Antiarc|Work | Starinnia: Add $Revision:$ somewhere into your file, and set svn:keywords = "Rev" |
| 17:41.01 | Starinnia | thank you :) |
| 17:41.21 | NightHawkAtWork | (rtfm?) |
| 17:41.22 | winkiller | omg, that is so CVSish :P |
| 17:41.24 | Antiarc|Work | Galwar: http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/board.html?sid=1&forumId=10023 is the US version |
| 17:42.22 | Kaelten|Work | winkiller: SVN was designed to b e similar to CVS |
| 17:42.31 | winkiller | no shit! |
| 17:42.42 | jme | the one thing i hate about running karazhan with a new group (recent recruits) |
| 17:42.45 | jme | is all the wipes |
| 17:42.47 | Antiarc|Work | SVN is, I believe, "A better CVS than CVS" :) |
| 17:42.48 | winkiller | still I've never seen anyone use $Revision in svn :P |
| 17:42.50 | winkiller | in some year |
| 17:42.51 | winkiller | *s |
| 17:42.59 | Antiarc|Work | Basically every Ace library uses it |
| 17:43.09 | Antiarc|Work | It's a core principle to automatic lib upgrades. |
| 17:43.12 | winkiller | I don't read lua sourcecode, sorry :) |
| 17:43.25 | Antiarc|Work | That's probably why you haven't seen it ;) |
| 17:43.35 | winkiller | I'm basically only idling here in hope to get some tidbits of info and than krandom authors for their work |
| 17:43.49 | winkiller | and to harass em with bugreports ofx |
| 17:44.01 | NightHawkAtWork | Yeah, thats more or less why I'm here, except less with thanking and more with snarky comments. :D |
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| 17:45.38 | Chompers | people in here make addons? |
| 17:45.43 | Chompers | woah |
| 17:45.54 | jme | lies |
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| 17:45.59 | jme | they just pretend to |
| 17:46.23 | CIA-22 | 03sylvanaar * r45001 10Prat/Prat_Modules/modules/ChannelSeparator.lua: |
| 17:46.23 | CIA-22 | Prat: Fix startup join/unjoin state for breakout types officer, bg, and raid. |
| 17:46.23 | CIA-22 | In the case that the enabled state of a broken out type eg. RAID was off, and |
| 17:46.23 | CIA-22 | the original PARTY was on, RAID would not be unjoined when it was removed from |
| 17:46.23 | CIA-22 | the PARTY type. |
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| 17:47.14 | NightHawkAtWork | Why, for the love of all that is sane, does windows decide that when I open up 4 documents simultaneously, it should open them as 4 separate instances of the application, each with one document, rather than one instance with 4 tabs? |
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| 17:47.46 | Starinnia | because using resources is fun? |
| 17:48.02 | Undine | depending on the application it'll use no more resources |
| 17:48.03 | sylvanaar | NightHawkAtWork its a function of the application |
| 17:48.16 | NightHawkAtWork | sylvanaar: it's idiotic, and completeltly ass backwards. |
| 17:48.27 | NightHawkAtWork | Starinnia: wait, kenco works for MS? :P |
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| 17:48.31 | Undine | even with multiple windows it might actually only be one instance of the app |
| 17:48.34 | Starinnia | we could just go with microsoft is stupid cover-all explanation |
| 17:48.55 | jme | Starinnia: that one is assumed |
| 17:49.08 | NightHawkAtWork | Regardless of actual resource usage, there's no good reason to open multiple windows when tabs are available. |
| 17:49.11 | dylanm | Yeah, I was about to say... it's not like it's using [memory of app with one open document]x4. |
| 17:49.16 | dylanm | What application are we talking about? |
| 17:49.18 | sylvanaar | NightHawkAtWork the application can decide which behaviour it wants windows has nothing to say about it |
| 17:49.18 | Kirkburn | lol, Parrot's config mode is awesome |
| 17:49.20 | ckknight | hey all |
| 17:49.25 | NightHawkAtWork | SQL server management studio |
| 17:49.28 | Chompers | hai ckk |
| 17:49.34 | dylanm | Oh those SQL managers are always crap. |
| 17:49.39 | ckknight | hey Chompers |
| 17:49.52 | Chompers | how's the sunburn? |
| 17:50.14 | NightHawkAtWork | What gets me though is that it works fine, as long as you don't open the documents at the exact same time. |
| 17:50.20 | NightHawkAtWork | which is just further idiocy. |
| 17:51.48 | dylanm | Heh. Most of the apps I use are pretty good about that. <3 TextMate. |
| 17:52.42 | NightHawkAtWork | i've yet to see any mac app behave in that manner, but that's largely because macs don't have the concept of multiple instances of an app. |
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| 17:53.19 | dylanm | NightHawkAtWork: I think we're talking more about how the program does its window management. |
| 17:53.34 | Amadeo | what are the ways to get netherdrakes these days? |
| 17:54.17 | NightHawkAtWork | dylanm: yes, but an app's window management is strongly connected to the os's window management. :P |
| 17:54.22 | mikma | Amadeo: grind. |
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| 17:54.52 | Amadeo | grind what? faction? |
| 17:55.04 | NightHawkAtWork | yes |
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| 17:55.09 | NightHawkAtWork | Netherwing faction |
| 17:55.20 | dylanm | For example: if I double-click on a bunch of code files I've selected, Textmate opens up one window with a list of those files on the right. If I double-click on selected .html documents, Safari opens a new window for each. |
| 17:55.43 | Starinnia | Amadeo: or do really well in arenas and wait for the season to end |
| 17:56.06 | Amadeo | I see |
| 17:56.25 | Starinnia | 310% speed drake from last season, i think its the same for this one |
| 17:56.39 | sylvanaar | the apps have code to say "if i am not the first instance, send <some message> to the first instance and exit" |
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| 17:57.27 | Comxx | Antiarc You there? |
| 17:57.32 | Amadeo | epic flying mounts are crazy as it is |
| 17:57.33 | Amadeo | can't imagine that |
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| 18:01.10 | Undine | yeah, the multiple windows is due to insufficient cleverness on safari's part, not a flaw in windows |
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| 18:01.35 | NightHawkAtWork | "FN_GetParticipantAccountOrderCategoriesByIDAccountOrder" <-- there's a goddamn function name. :P |
| 18:01.58 | Antiarc|Work | Comxx: Yeah |
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| 18:02.48 | trh | NightHawkAtWork: better than GetPartAccCatIDAcc() ;) |
| 18:03.18 | sylvanaar | also - sharing a process might not be what you want (tabs = all in one process) |
| 18:03.24 | NightHawkAtWork | trh: Agreed, and probalbly not the longest function/sproc name in here. :P |
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| 18:04.24 | NightHawkAtWork | sylvanaar: opening multiple documents simultaneously implicitly suggests that you want to work with them in a related manner. If you don |
| 18:04.38 | NightHawkAtWork | If you don't, then you can go out of your way to open multiple instances |
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| 18:08.28 | Rhaene | Does anyone know if there is anyway to force a "next target"? ie, the equivilent of if the person were to press tab? |
| 18:10.03 | Gagorian | It's protected |
| 18:10.05 | Cryect | no |
| 18:10.06 | Gagorian | needs button click |
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| 18:11.33 | Rhaene | damn |
| 18:11.54 | NightHawkAtWork | God i want to slap whoever wrote this function. >< |
| 18:12.02 | Rhaene | so theres no way to say, assign a target icon on a mob without them targetting or mouseover'ing the unit? |
| 18:13.02 | NightHawkAtWork | nope |
| 18:13.25 | NightHawkAtWork | well, i think you can assign raid icons via any valid unit id. |
| 18:13.29 | Pheredhel | at least someone in the raid has to target it |
| 18:13.43 | NightHawkAtWork | "any valid unit id" :) |
| 18:13.44 | Pheredhel | or has to have a unitid |
| 18:13.54 | Rhaene | o |
| 18:13.56 | Pheredhel | yea, right |
| 18:14.04 | Rhaene | does each unit have a diff id? |
| 18:14.09 | Rhaene | like even ones with the same name? |
| 18:14.16 | NightHawkAtWork | er, internally, yes, but we can't access that |
| 18:14.17 | Pheredhel | no |
| 18:14.23 | Rhaene | damnit |
| 18:14.27 | Pheredhel | only players in your party/raid have an id |
| 18:14.28 | NightHawkAtWork | by unit id we mean "target", "targettarget" "party2target" etc |
| 18:14.34 | Antiarc|Work | If I target you, I can access you as "target", and your target as "targettarget", etc. |
| 18:14.39 | Pheredhel | and indirectly every unit targeted by them |
| 18:14.58 | Rhaene | damn there goes that idea |
| 18:15.14 | NightHawkAtWork | Rhaene: think of it this way, if you can get a unit frame for them, you can perform most unit based operations on them |
| 18:15.37 | rubik | stupid q.. opentype fonts do or don't work with wow (i.e. sharedmedia/mymedia stuff)? |
| 18:15.45 | rubik | or should i convert opentype to truetype first? |
| 18:16.24 | Coruss | is it possible to hook the right click when moused over a target, i.e. so instead of having to select a target and then mark it, you could right click it and open a popup? |
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| 18:17.19 | jme | anyone still have the link to the screenshot that was pasted in here yesterday, with the raid buffs lined on the right side of the health bars? |
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| 18:18.56 | Antiarc|Work | jme: About what time? |
| 18:19.19 | Rhaene | NightHawk: yeah, I was wanting to make like saved pulls in instances, like press a key and first pull is icon'd according to a savedvariables file, but i see thats not possible now |
| 18:19.20 | jme | Antiarc|Work: nevermind, i have stored logs i'm grepping |
| 18:19.22 | Pheredhel | coruss, somewhat strange, but it should work |
| 18:19.25 | jme | Antiarc|Work: just remembered that :P |
| 18:19.34 | NightHawkAtWork | Rhaene: sadly, no. :) |
| 18:19.39 | Pheredhel | I'd rather use mousover + some other key |
| 18:19.49 | Antiarc|Work | Coruss: What about a macro? |
| 18:20.01 | Antiarc|Work | mouseover + modifiers for four icons |
| 18:20.43 | NightHawkAtWork | thats why sprocket was great. I could mouseover, hit a key, and have a raid icon menu pop up. :) |
| 18:21.02 | Coruss | hmmm |
| 18:21.23 | Antiarc|Work | Or better yet, just a rolling marker. |
| 18:21.50 | Coruss | I was basically just thinking of ease of marking |
| 18:21.54 | Coruss | something like what nighthawk mentioned |
| 18:22.11 | Coruss | or even just being able to right click mobs and have them get marked |
| 18:22.18 | Coruss | kinda like a cast sequence, but with markers |
| 18:22.22 | Rhaene | nighthawk: ezIcons, my mod |
| 18:22.29 | Rhaene | double left click and a radial menu appears around the mob |
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| 18:22.43 | Rhaene | or mouseover and press a keybind and hte next icon in the list gets icon'd |
| 18:22.45 | jme | Antiarc|Work: and it was http://surl.se/ccyx if you're wondering |
| 18:22.57 | Rhaene | or hold shift and move mouse over a large group of mobs and they all get icon'd |
| 18:23.00 | Rhaene | lol |
| 18:23.01 | jme | i want to figure out how to get the buffs lined up like that, and apparently you can't with pitbull |
| 18:23.12 | sylvanaar | when are we going to see those radial menus on anything but concept code |
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| 18:23.33 | Rhaene | sylvanaar: concept? what do you mean |
| 18:23.54 | NightHawkAtWork | sylvanaar: pester ckknight and.. uh.. hyperChipmunk, i think. They were, at one point, working on that :P |
| 18:23.58 | Coruss | Rhaene: that sounds very similar to what I was thinking of, is your mod production? |
| 18:24.05 | sylvanaar | Rhaene not in general use |
| 18:24.09 | ckknight | and I gave up, because it's too complicated |
| 18:24.14 | ckknight | too much effort for too little gain |
| 18:24.24 | Rhaene | Coruss: yes.....its even on WAU atm |
| 18:24.33 | Cryect | Really instead of radial menus its all about spiral or hex menus |
| 18:24.53 | Rhaene | why would you want spiral or hex menus? and wth is spiral and hex menu? |
| 18:25.02 | jme | ckknight, http://surl.se/ccyx <- are those pitbull raid frames? how did he get the buffs lined up like that? (i know i asked you this last night) |
| 18:25.08 | Cryect | Spiral would be the elements arranged in a spiral |
| 18:25.23 | Rhaene | how would that be beneficial? |
| 18:25.24 | Cryect | Hex would be hexagonal so the mouse movements between elements is the smallest |
| 18:25.32 | CIA-22 | 03diablohu * r45002 10Omen/ (Omen.toc localization_zhCN.lua): |
| 18:25.32 | CIA-22 | Omen: |
| 18:25.32 | CIA-22 | - zhCN update |
| 18:25.36 | ckknight | no idea, jme |
| 18:25.37 | NightHawkAtWork | Cryect: wtb som ring menues again. :P |
| 18:25.44 | Cryect | you can pack more stuff in spiral space instead of radial space |
| 18:26.16 | Rhaene | why would you need more space? a circle appears around hte mob, move mouse in any direction and you set an icon depending on the direction |
| 18:26.31 | RogueShadow | jme: It looks like it might be. Disable everythign but the health bar, make it smaller align aura's right |
| 18:26.56 | Cryect | Well what you just described isn't possible unless its close enough for nameplates :-p |
| 18:27.08 | Cryect | I was just talking about different types |
| 18:27.18 | Rhaene | not possible? think again |
| 18:27.26 | jme | RogueShadow: ah, didn't think about the align auras option.. i'll check it out when i get home |
| 18:27.30 | Cryect | how do you put it on a mob without a nameplate? |
| 18:27.33 | jme | in 3.5 hours /cry |
| 18:27.49 | Cryect | unless you are using third party programs to give you extra information |
| 18:27.54 | RogueShadow | jme: I saw that screenshot somewhere before, I got it pretty close on mine, haven't tried it in anything but config mode yet |
| 18:28.11 | alext | what are you guys looking at in that screenshot |
| 18:28.12 | Antiarc|Work | Coruss: /script local ak, ck, sk = IsAltKeyDown(), IsControlKeyDown(), IsShiftKeyDown(); SetRaidTarget("mouseover", (ak and ck and sk and 1) or (ak and ck and 2) or (ak and sk and 3) or (ck and sk 4) or (ck and 5) or (sk and 6) or (ak and 7)) |
| 18:28.15 | alext | the buffs above the frame? |
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| 18:28.26 | Cryect | I wasn't talking about your case I was just talking about the idea that they are still in concept mode |
| 18:28.30 | Rhaene | http://wowui.incgamers.com/ui.php?id=4628 |
| 18:28.43 | Rhaene | o ok |
| 18:28.45 | Antiarc|Work | Actually, wait, /script local ak, ck, sk = IsAltKeyDown(), IsControlKeyDown(), IsShiftKeyDown(); SetRaidTarget("mouseover, (ak and ck and sk and 1) or (ak and ck and 2) or (ak and sk and 3) or (ck and sk 4) or (ck and 5) or (sk and 6) or (ak and 7) or 8) |
| 18:28.51 | Cryect | oh you are talking clicking on a mob |
| 18:29.03 | Antiarc|Work | Set that to a macro, and then bind the macro to a key |
| 18:29.05 | Rhaene | double left click |
| 18:29.06 | Cryect | I thought you meant without moving the mouse |
| 18:29.10 | Cryect | something would appear on it |
| 18:29.16 | Antiarc|Work | You have access to every icon with ctrl/alt/shift/your key |
| 18:29.25 | Rhaene | no thats not possible.....yuou just said yourself those functions are protected |
| 18:29.29 | Antiarc|Work | Mouse over, hit a keybinding, and tada |
| 18:30.33 | Rhaene | yep |
| 18:31.22 | ckknight | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:31.38 | Antiarc|Work | Showoff. |
| 18:31.50 | Antiarc|Work | I knew it was something like that but I am not properly caffeinated :P |
| 18:32.16 | trh | caffeine.. GOOD idea :) |
| 18:32.17 | charon | why not just bind the keys including modifiers in the standard keymaps menu O.o |
| 18:32.36 | Rhaene | I personallyf ind it simples to set a modifier key to on new target, and have it only respond to something that is not of friendly faction, then I just have to swipe mouse across the screen ;) |
| 18:33.15 | Antiarc|Work | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:33.22 | Antiarc|Work | I think that works too. |
| 18:33.27 | Antiarc|Work | Except with an extra " after mouseover |
| 18:35.06 | Rhaene | is it possible to alter what icons look like to a user? |
| 18:35.31 | trh | err what? |
| 18:35.43 | Antiarc|Work | http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/grave_robbers;_ylt=AoiHel9iP2Y_i.Z.VPHkKdUE1vAI <---- whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaat the hell. |
| 18:35.47 | Rhaene | change the raid icon images |
| 18:36.03 | trh | uhm.. i don't think so |
| 18:36.13 | trh | at least not for every user |
| 18:36.18 | Rhaene | not without changing y our mpq files eh? |
| 18:36.41 | rubik | is there a quick way to list the fonts registered with SharedMedia in-game? |
| 18:36.58 | trh | Antiarc: eeek.. that's creepy |
| 18:37.06 | Antiarc|Work | SML:List("font") |
| 18:37.11 | Antiarc|Work | That returns a table of fonts |
| 18:37.18 | rubik | thanks.. trying |
| 18:37.30 | Antiarc|Work | Where SML = AceLibrary("SharedMedia-1.0") of course |
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| 18:39.16 | rubik | cool.. that worked, thanks.. now to figure out why it ignores the MyMedia.lua file.. heh |
| 18:39.16 | Coruss | Antiarc|Work: what do ak and sk and ck refer to? |
| 18:39.20 | Antiarc|Work | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:39.22 | ckknight | what keys are down |
| 18:39.25 | Antiarc|Work | Just aliases for those functions |
| 18:39.27 | trh | rubik: forgot to include it in .toc or didn't restart the client? =) |
| 18:39.30 | Coruss | aaah |
| 18:39.32 | Antiarc|Work | To get under the 255 char limit |
| 18:39.38 | Antiarc|Work | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:39.46 | Antiarc|Work | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:40.18 | Coruss | ok, so the second param of SetRaidTarget is the mark that gets put on it? |
| 18:40.22 | trh | i wonder why they made that limit in first place |
| 18:40.30 | Coruss | trh, packet size |
| 18:40.37 | rubik | trh: heh.. nah.. MyMedia.lua is listed in SharedMedia.toc and not commented out |
| 18:40.40 | trh | Coruss: it's client side |
| 18:40.49 | Coruss | oh ya |
| 18:41.11 | Coruss | well some macros do make server calls |
| 18:41.15 | Coruss | i.e. /cast x |
| 18:41.27 | rubik | do my fonts *have to* be under the SharedMedia dir or can be in a different AddOns\Something\ dir? |
| 18:41.35 | trh | Coruss: yep, but it only sends PKGHEXMARKERTFORCASTSPELL:<spellid> |
| 18:41.37 | jme | "We believe you need to be able to form complete sentences to join our guild." <- part of my guild's creed |
| 18:41.39 | Antiarc|Work | You can put them where ever, rubik |
| 18:41.45 | Antiarc|Work | Just register them with SML |
| 18:41.46 | trh | Coruss: doesn |
| 18:41.51 | rubik | yeah.. thought so.. k.. will keep poking |
| 18:41.52 | trh | 't send the spell name or sth |
| 18:41.59 | Coruss | true enough |
| 18:42.17 | Coruss | maybe it's a buffer overflow protection? |
| 18:42.37 | rubik | uh oh... path names case sensitive eh? |
| 18:42.39 | trh | Coruss: i don't think lua actually has a way to limit the length of a string? |
| 18:42.51 | trh | Coruss: and i doubt someone would enter a 30kilobyte string or longer ;) |
| 18:43.11 | Coruss | trh: there's always *someone* willing to try |
| 18:43.30 | trh | Coruss: well.. then why not check for 30kb length? |
| 18:43.47 | Coruss | Antiarc|Work: so basically that macro would set a mark on a mob based on which modifier key you held down, correct? |
| 18:43.56 | Antiarc|Work | Correct |
| 18:44.25 | trh | replace key with keys :P |
| 18:44.29 | trh | then it'd be 100% true |
| 18:44.34 | Antiarc|Work | None = 1, Alt = 2, Ctrl = 3, Alt + Ctrl = 4, Shift = 5, Alt + Shift = 6, Ctrl + Shift = 7, Ctrl + Alt + Shift = 8 |
| 18:45.07 | NightHawkAtWork | Antiarc|Work: heh, thats clever. |
| 18:45.41 | Antiarc|Work | I use notepad++ and vim :P |
| 18:45.42 | Coruss | hrmm, it's an interesting solution and quite elegant |
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| 18:46.29 | NightHawkAtWork | I think Antiarc|Work is just lucky that the number of icons was 3 binary digits |
| 18:46.39 | Antiarc|Work | Naturally :P |
| 18:46.50 | Coruss | that said, ideally I'd still rather have a right-click popup menu rather than having to left click to target, and then right click the portrait then select a mark |
| 18:47.50 | Antiarc|Work | You could probably secure hook WorldFrame's MouseDown and check for the mouseover target. |
| 18:48.44 | RogueShadow | seems like a pretty standard solution to me |
| 18:48.54 | RogueShadow | :) |
| 18:49.03 | RogueShadow | But it's just because I hang out with good coders. |
| 18:49.24 | trh | writing cardgames is SO annoying |
| 18:49.33 | trh | s/writing/programming/ |
| 18:49.47 | Coruss | lol |
| 18:49.53 | RogueShadow | lol |
| 18:50.10 | RogueShadow | s/lol/laughing out loud |
| 18:50.15 | RogueShadow | s/lol/laughing out loud/ |
| 18:50.20 | RogueShadow | ;) |
| 18:50.30 | RogueShadow | Monkey see monkey do. |
| 18:50.31 | trh | selfpwned :P |
| 18:50.40 | Coruss | roflmao |
| 18:50.45 | RogueShadow | s/Monkey/Banana eating primate of doom/ |
| 18:51.01 | Coruss | s/roflmao/rolling on the floor laughing my a** off/ |
| 18:52.56 | trh | btw: if you want to play a nice single player pc game, try "Overlord" :) |
| 18:54.21 | Coruss | wasn't that supposed to be an mmo? |
| 18:54.44 | Coruss | or am I thinking of the wrong thing? |
| 18:55.21 | trh | it's a action rpg |
| 18:55.34 | trh | http://www.codemasters.de/overlord/index.php |
| 18:57.43 | Comxx | Antiarc|Work i have a Question for you |
| 18:57.50 | Antiarc|Work | Sure |
| 18:58.24 | Comxx | it about your mod hemlock |
| 18:59.10 | Comxx | when I click it the second time to craft, it will only make 2 poisons and then stop |
| 18:59.32 | Comxx | i found that if i open the tradewindow it works fine |
| 19:01.49 | Clovenhoof | Manufac has the same problem |
| 19:01.50 | Antiarc|Work | Every time? |
| 19:02.39 | Coruss | trh: ya I was thinking of some other game |
| 19:02.49 | Comxx | yea |
| 19:02.50 | dodgizzla | Heh, Hemlock asks to scan for poisons on every login for me. But I don't play my Rogue often lately, so whatever :P |
| 19:03.05 | Antiarc|Work | Hemlock asks for a scan if it can't find reagents in your local cache |
| 19:03.37 | Comxx | if i commit out open of the CastSpellByName(self.poisonSpellName) it works fine |
| 19:04.06 | Comxx | one* |
| 19:05.20 | Comxx | but the tradeskill will be open all the time |
| 19:06.03 | Antiarc|Work | How odd. |
| 19:06.15 | Antiarc|Work | I wonder if it's a conflict iwth another mod |
| 19:06.20 | Antiarc|Work | Because I don't have that problem at all |
| 19:06.40 | Comxx | it like BLizz Changed something |
| 19:07.07 | Comxx | let see it del my cacha it that helps |
| 19:08.01 | Comxx | then if that does not work i turn off all my mods and found if it that and ill let you know =) |
| 19:08.18 | Antiarc|Work | Great, please do |
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| 19:10.11 | Mech0z | So Antiarc are we getting close to a 1.0 ? :o |
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| 19:11.44 | Antiarc|Work | Close, yes. |
| 19:11.49 | Antiarc|Work | I need to work out this library upgrade bug. |
| 19:11.56 | Antiarc|Work | After that's gone, I think I'll be ready for RC1. |
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| 19:13.18 | Coruss | of omen? |
| 19:13.21 | Antiarc|Work | yes |
| 19:13.25 | Coruss | nice |
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| 19:16.01 | CIA-22 | 03athou * r45003 10FuBar_RaidBuffFu/FuBar_RaidBuffFu.lua: |
| 19:16.01 | CIA-22 | FuBar_RaidBuffFu: |
| 19:16.01 | CIA-22 | - moved the sorting function elsewhere as it was freezing the client |
| 19:16.25 | Comxx | Antiarc|Work i was that Cacha |
| 19:16.36 | Antiarc|Work | ? |
| 19:16.58 | RogueShadow | s/i/it/ |
| 19:16.58 | Comxx | hemlock working fine so far |
| 19:17.04 | Antiarc|Work | Which mod was interfering? |
| 19:17.18 | Antiarc|Work | Or you just cleared your cache? |
| 19:17.22 | Comxx | i just del my cacha |
| 19:17.26 | Antiarc|Work | Huh, okay. |
| 19:20.09 | CIA-22 | 03athou * r45004 10FuBar_RaidBuffFu/FuBar_RaidBuffFu.lua: |
| 19:20.09 | CIA-22 | FuBar_RaidBuffFu: |
| 19:20.09 | CIA-22 | - forgot blessing of salvation |
| 19:20.14 | jme | deltron: http://youtube.com/watch?v=iOe5CXd-f4c |
| 19:21.09 | Comxx | but when i scan i get a error from Strubby |
| 19:23.03 | RogueShadow | Hmm. I got a 37gb partition empy, I should install linux there. Fedora Core I think. |
| 19:23.53 | jme | ubuntu imo |
| 19:23.54 | durcyn | the problem with fedora is that it's still red hat |
| 19:24.26 | durcyn | and any distro that even thinks about using RPM by definition sucks, or will suck once you want to update anything. |
| 19:24.27 | RogueShadow | ic ic |
| 19:24.35 | RogueShadow | :) |
| 19:24.42 | RogueShadow | I always accept recommendations |
| 19:24.45 | durcyn | fex, try installing tomcat on RHEL4 without yum/up2date |
| 19:24.48 | durcyn | holy shit. |
| 19:24.49 | Josh_Borke | rpms aren't that bad |
| 19:24.56 | Josh_Borke | well, without yum...yea |
| 19:24.57 | durcyn | 215 upstream dependencies or somesuch. |
| 19:24.58 | RogueShadow | ubuntu :) I just like the name. |
| 19:25.47 | RogueShadow | I want become familier with it. As a server platform, and day to day OS. Just wish I could play wow in it... or can I? lol |
| 19:25.56 | Josh_Borke | you can |
| 19:26.05 | RogueShadow | *deletes windows* |
| 19:26.07 | RogueShadow | lol |
| 19:26.50 | RogueShadow | I need to be careful tho, really. If I did corrupt my windows installation, I don't really have a way to fix it right now. I'm not sure where the CD I used is. |
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| 19:26.57 | Comxx | Antiarc|Work: do you use Auctioneer addon ? |
| 19:26.58 | RogueShadow | ... |
| 19:27.11 | Antiarc|Work | Comxx: Yes |
| 19:27.24 | hypetech | onebag is b0rked after the last update. it's dimmed and I can't interact with anything in the bag |
| 19:28.02 | Keias | was just about say the same hypetech |
| 19:28.10 | Keias | Does the author come here? |
| 19:28.19 | Josh_Borke | what update? |
| 19:28.34 | Keias | - Fixed grayed out bag problem. Thanks to Varinul of WoWInterface for the fix. |
| 19:28.44 | hypetech | lol |
| 19:28.48 | Keias | Which it kinda did the opposite |
| 19:28.56 | Keias | and created a big grayed out bag for me |
| 19:29.03 | hypetech | same |
| 19:29.15 | Comxx | Antiarc|Work: Because Evertime i scan i get a Stubby error and a hemlock error |
| 19:29.27 | loonacy | I had that happen to me, I deleted my onebag savedvariables and it came up just fine. |
| 19:29.49 | Keias | good idea, thanks |
| 19:30.18 | Josh_Borke | his code didn't change anything but strame frata so that doesn't make sense to me |
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| 19:34.23 | Comxx | i dont know Antiarc|Work lol im just trying to fix hemlock lol |
| 19:34.29 | CIA-22 | 03starinnia * r45005 10SimpleMD/ (. Locale-enUS.lua Readme.txt SimpleMD.lua SimpleMD.toc): |
| 19:34.29 | CIA-22 | SimpleMD: |
| 19:34.29 | CIA-22 | - Added Soar-1.0 lib and options for scrolling text display |
| 19:36.02 | Antiarc|Work | Starinnia: Use Sink rather than Soar |
| 19:36.07 | Antiarc|Work | I'm depricating Soar eventuallyish |
| 19:36.20 | Starinnia | okay, i'll change it |
| 19:36.21 | Antiarc|Work | Since Sink is what Soar wants to be when it grows up. :P |
| 19:37.20 | Antiarc|Work | Does UnitPopup_ShowMenu() by default show the menu at the mouse cursor? |
| 19:38.27 | Comxx | what i simpleMD ? |
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| 19:42.11 | Starinnia | simpleMD sends messages to other users when you use misdirection, i made it to help coordinate my guild's hunters, thought I'd share it with everyone |
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| 19:43.49 | Comxx | ah nice |
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| 19:48.01 | Comxx | Antiarc|Work: do you know what Cache File that Hemlock stores in ? |
| 19:48.17 | Antiarc|Work | Whatever the wow cache is. |
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| 19:51.55 | Chompers | just got my pally charger :D |
| 19:52.00 | Chompers | looks rather awesome |
| 19:53.10 | Saint-N | boobies...yay \o/ |
| 19:53.35 | dodgizzla | what? where? |
| 19:53.49 | jme | who? when? |
| 19:54.01 | Saint-N | why? how? |
| 19:54.23 | Comxx | im going to make i sig off o Antiarc|Work site now =) |
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| 19:55.36 | Saint-N | don't do it its a trick! |
| 19:55.45 | Saint-N | he's secretly plotting to take over the world |
| 19:55.52 | Starinnia | its a keylogger.. Antiarc is stealing all our login info |
| 19:55.55 | Starinnia | :P |
| 19:55.56 | Saint-N | the Bunny sig of world domination was his idea! |
| 19:56.04 | Comxx | Antiarc|Work what the link again =) |
| 19:56.14 | Comxx | lol Saint-N |
| 19:56.20 | Antiarc|Work | http://armory.mmo-champion.com |
| 19:56.28 | Comxx | thx |
| 19:56.36 | Saint-N | excel saga rules |
| 19:56.37 | Saint-N | ! |
| 19:57.26 | Antiarc|Work | Is that the RPG about doing word processing? |
| 19:57.49 | CIA-22 | 03starinnia * r45006 10SimpleMD/ (. SimpleMD.lua SimpleMD.toc): |
| 19:57.49 | CIA-22 | SimpleMD: |
| 19:57.49 | CIA-22 | - Changed from Soar-1.0 to SinkLib for floating messages |
| 19:57.54 | jme | is there anywhere other than badlands that's good for mithril? |
| 19:58.14 | Comxx | Antiarc|Work the Sig Generator purge the Sigs that dont get used ? |
| 19:58.19 | Fin | Mikk: I fixed Alias finally |
| 19:58.27 | Saint-N | umm |
| 19:58.42 | Antiarc|Work | Comxx: I periodically flush sigs that haven't been accessed in 3+ weeks, yes |
| 19:58.49 | Saint-N | searing gorge and uhh felwood? |
| 19:58.56 | Saint-N | maybe ungoro |
| 19:59.08 | Antiarc|Work | Arathi is good |
| 19:59.28 | Saint-N | arathi is mor truesilver though aint it? |
| 19:59.35 | Saint-N | iron//truesilver |
| 19:59.37 | jme | arathi is more iron and gold that i found |
| 19:59.43 | jme | which is where i went for those |
| 19:59.56 | jme | i'm at 210, still on mithril, truesilver is at 230 |
| 20:03.16 | Starinnia | badlands seems to be the best spot, but alterac has a good amount of nodes too, around the yeti caves |
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| 20:09.56 | CIA-22 | 03hshh * r45007 10ClassTimer/ (ClassTimer.lua Locales/zhCN.lua): ClassTimer: fix unit class localization display on bar, fix zhCN localization |
| 20:10.26 | CIA-22 | 03hshh * r45008 10SharedMediaLib/SharedMedia-1.0/SharedMedia-1.0.lua: SharedMediaLib: fix zhCN localization |
| 20:14.16 | Killmore7 | I hate the new curse gaming site :( |
| 20:14.53 | Saint-N | wowi seems to be the only ui site that hasnt upgraded to the new "suhk" modules |
| 20:15.30 | CIA-22 | 03trh * r45009 10VanasKoS/VanasKoSLocals.lua: VanasKoS: fixed utf8 encoding that was messed up by a localization |
| 20:15.31 | Cryect | the new curse site is better than the last 2 curse sites |
| 20:16.00 | Saint-N | and xp was better than me and 98 |
| 20:16.11 | Saint-N | thats not to say its good by any stretch ;) |
| 20:16.14 | NightHawkAtWork | I've never really been a fan of curse's sites. This one does seem better, but meh. It's too much glamour and not enough meat. |
| 20:16.34 | Cryect | No, but still improvement is something |
| 20:16.46 | Saint-N | they're trying to be too flashy |
| 20:16.48 | Cryect | whatever I don't frequent the site often |
| 20:16.56 | Cryect | V3 was impossible to navigate though |
| 20:16.58 | Saint-N | and the last thing anyone whos getting addons cares for is flash |
| 20:17.08 | Cryect | took always like 8 or 10 pages to get to whatever I wanted often |
| 20:17.10 | Saint-N | you wanna go to the site get yer addons and leave |
| 20:17.13 | Cryect | yep |
| 20:17.16 | Saint-N | like wowace |
| 20:17.19 | Saint-N | or wowi |
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| 20:17.37 | Cryect | I don't like the wowi look but at least I find what I want fast |
| 20:17.43 | Saint-N | not to mention the insane amount of increidbly stupid and realestate intensive ads |
| 20:18.05 | Saint-N | i cant count the amount of times the site has lagged because it cant connect to an ad site |
| 20:18.07 | Cryect | something needs to pay for the flash |
| 20:18.21 | Cryect | so use flashy ads :-p |
| 20:19.37 | Saint-N | heh or ditch the flash make it more versatile and not suck so hard |
| 20:19.45 | NightHawkAtWork | <3 pithhelmet/adblock? :P |
| 20:20.13 | Saint-N | basically all they are really doing in my opinion anyways is providing room for site that you can use on a slow link and will get more hits because of that |
| 20:20.27 | Saint-N | sites |
| 20:20.44 | Saint-N | thats why google won the search engine wars |
| 20:20.53 | Saint-N | it was better without the crap the others had |
| 20:21.05 | Cryect | come on its all about web portals! |
| 20:21.12 | ckknight | Killmore7: why are you a player-hater? |
| 20:21.13 | Cryect | which is what curse became |
| 20:21.20 | Cryect | an MMO Portal |
| 20:21.30 | Saint-N | it amazes me that advertising onthe internet continues in thepathetic way it does |
| 20:21.33 | NightHawkAtWork | I have a burning hatred for portals |
| 20:21.46 | Saint-N | if a site makes the user hate life they arent gonna use it |
| 20:21.50 | Saint-N | plan and simple |
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| 20:21.59 | NightHawkAtWork | Saint-N: Advertising -is-, it exists in all forms of media, why should the internet be exempt? |
| 20:22.23 | Saint-N | NightHawkAtWork: not so much that there is advertising just the brute force attempts that it seems to have devolved into |
| 20:22.56 | Saint-N | i dont mind banners, but when banners and shit are more than the content it's a bit much |
| 20:22.56 | Xuerian | Where's nymbia when you need him... |
| 20:22.59 | NightHawkAtWork | Well, thats purely a result of the internet being a very opt-in kind of thing. |
| 20:23.27 | Saint-N | xeur: him and ckk are have somosa's |
| 20:23.42 | ckknight | um, what? |
| 20:24.02 | jme | that made absolutely no sense |
| 20:24.06 | Saint-N | **subtext** getting drunk and going back to ckk's place for "coffee" |
| 20:24.50 | Saint-N | i couldnt use the "under my desk" response as nymbia is male ;P |
| 20:24.56 | Saint-N | so i had to come up with something |
| 20:24.57 | CIA-22 | 03mist 07Mist * r45010 10Hourglass/Hourglass/core.lua: |
| 20:24.57 | CIA-22 | Hourglass (branch): |
| 20:24.57 | CIA-22 | <PROTECTED> |
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| 20:25.29 | NightHawkAtWork | nymbia's not male, gnome's are asexual |
| 20:25.37 | Saint-N | like earthworms? |
| 20:25.38 | NightHawkAtWork | s/'s/s/ |
| 20:25.45 | NightHawkAtWork | fuck you purl |
| 20:25.48 | Saint-N | hahaha |
| 20:26.01 | Saint-N | SYNTAX FATALITY! |
| 20:26.03 | Saint-N | YOU LOSE! |
| 20:26.04 | NightHawkAtWork | Saint-N: more like amoeba, i think. |
| 20:26.08 | CIA-22 | 03gagorian * r45011 10DrDamage/ (DrDamage.lua Melee.lua): |
| 20:26.08 | CIA-22 | DrDamage: |
| 20:26.08 | CIA-22 | - Attempt to fix nil AP errors. |
| 20:26.08 | CIA-22 | - Rewrote windfury detection to use SEA. Might break windfury, haven't had a chance to test it |
| 20:26.28 | Amadeo | I'm starting to love Paladins |
| 20:26.32 | Amadeo | even being a PvP healbot |
| 20:26.33 | Amadeo | lol |
| 20:26.38 | Saint-N | then the terroists have won |
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| 20:28.28 | Saint-N | ive made this wooden doll and soy sauce pumping thingy! Then i shall make the inanimate object a staff seargent and the pump thingy a major |
| 20:29.29 | Chompers | isnt 'nymbia's' correct? |
| 20:30.25 | Saint-N | yes |
| 20:30.41 | Chompers | thought so |
| 20:30.42 | Saint-N | it's the gnomes part thats wrong |
| 20:30.55 | Saint-N | gnome is are asexual |
| 20:32.56 | Fisker- | oh lawd EE3 sucks |
| 20:34.12 | Chompers | it looks really bad |
| 20:34.17 | Fisker- | yeah |
| 20:34.22 | ag` | What's SEA? Isn't it that Cosmos thingy |
| 20:34.40 | durcyn | probably means SpecialEvents-Aura |
| 20:34.42 | Chompers | i bet it's ee2 in disguise |
| 20:35.02 | Cryect | heh would be amusing if he was using Sea |
| 20:35.25 | Saint-N | ee3? |
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| 20:35.51 | Fisker- | empire earth 3 |
| 20:35.52 | Chompers | Empire Earth 3 |
| 20:35.56 | Fisker- | worse Chompers |
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| 20:36.09 | Saint-N | oh |
| 20:36.37 | Chompers | :o |
| 20:36.41 | vrak | uh, it's actually possible to make it worse? O_O |
| 20:36.46 | NightHawkAtWork | I think it's more properly SEEA, SpecialEventsEmbedAura, but whatever |
| 20:36.46 | ag` | Fisker-, time to roll alliance on kazzak |
| 20:36.52 | Chompers | world in conflict baby |
| 20:36.56 | Chompers | wait for that |
| 20:37.03 | ag` | wait? there's a free beta |
| 20:37.20 | Fisker- | gtfo ag` |
| 20:37.22 | trash30 | Come take a look at all those sluts !!! http://tinyurl.com/267nww |
| 20:37.32 | ag` | Fisker-, gtfi |
| 20:37.34 | Fisker- | World in Conflict is pretty cool |
| 20:37.43 | Saint-N | sluts?! |
| 20:37.47 | Saint-N | he's got my vote! |
| 20:37.57 | Fisker- | NO U |
| 20:38.15 | Chompers | he had my 'vote' too ;) |
| 20:38.21 | Chompers | awww yeah |
| 20:38.34 | Saint-N | mmmm sobe coolattas are yummy |
| 20:38.44 | Saint-N | they're almost as awesome as cherry limeaids from sonic |
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| 20:41.49 | jme | 2gb of ocz platinum memory for $150... hmm |
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| 20:43.07 | Bejitt__ | ugh |
| 20:43.21 | Bejitt__ | must... kill... clone.... |
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| 20:44.07 | Amadeo | The wars clone begun has! |
| 20:44.16 | Bejitt | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:44.27 | NightHawkAtWork | Is there a simple freeware windows app that'll passthrough audio from a mic/input port directly to the speakers, or whatever? |
| 20:45.14 | Amadeo | no idea |
| 20:45.16 | break19 | lmfao - we "won" a 1000.00 gift certificate to some online website... a dvd/vcr combo unit.. 100 bucks shipping and handling.. LMFAO right |
| 20:45.23 | Bejitt | enable the port on your sound options? |
| 20:45.27 | Amadeo | break19: That's what I thought was gonna happen :( |
| 20:45.30 | Bejitt | on playback o.O |
| 20:45.37 | break19 | "suggested retail price" was 360 bucks |
| 20:45.44 | Saint-N | in 1996 |
| 20:45.50 | break19 | Amadeo: no big deal. just a little time :) |
| 20:46.03 | break19 | we also got a pair of nice geneva watches.. so. heh |
| 20:46.16 | Saint-N | this entire package is worth over 1000$ but today you can have it for only 14.99$ |
| 20:46.20 | Amadeo | :) |
| 20:46.27 | Saint-N | well then its really only worth 14.99 right? |
| 20:46.40 | break19 | saint: exactly. lol |
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| 20:47.31 | Amadeo | So I'm noticing things about Paladin PvP...if you get Curse of Tongues, you're gonna die...if you get Counterspelled, you're gonna die...lol |
| 20:48.05 | break19 | Amadeo: seal of light + judge of light, hope they dont dispell em.. and hope you get em on before you get silenced :p |
| 20:48.16 | Amadeo | I don't even know what those do! |
| 20:48.21 | Amadeo | I'm just PTRing :P |
| 20:48.33 | Saint-N | wait a sec |
| 20:48.36 | break19 | gives you a chance to heal yourself when you hit your target |
| 20:48.38 | Saint-N | you're playing a paladin |
| 20:48.42 | Saint-N | and useing more than bubble hearth? |
| 20:48.49 | Saint-N | when did paladins get more skills? |
| 20:49.06 | Saint-N | break19: sol on mob sow on me ;P |
| 20:49.43 | Saint-N | and then use my uber weapon dps and totally awesome ac to beat it to death in a mere 10 minutes ;P |
| 20:49.49 | break19 | reckoning + redoubt + jol + wol.. you might die, but it's gonna take a LONG DAMN TIME |
| 20:50.31 | Saint-N | heh |
| 20:50.48 | Saint-N | paladins...when playing a warrior seems too difficult |
| 20:50.48 | break19 | i have a 34 pally that takes on groups of 3-4 lvl 36 mobs.. doesnt cast a single healing spell until the third is almost done. :p |
| 20:51.27 | Saint-N | i wish wow had oldschool d&d clerics and monks |
| 20:51.30 | Saint-N | then it wouldnt suck nearly as bad |
| 20:51.34 | break19 | heh |
| 20:51.39 | Amadeo | Well on PTR, the Warlocks are Shadow Bolting for 4900 damage, so...lol |
| 20:52.39 | Amadeo | I notice Mages are a pain, the ones that sit there and spam scorch |
| 20:52.50 | Amadeo | hard to cast, get stunned all the time |
| 20:53.16 | Saint-N | stun em |
| 20:53.25 | Saint-N | mages die kinna fast ;) |
| 20:53.29 | Amadeo | then they blink, lol |
| 20:53.33 | Amadeo | only if your team is good! |
| 20:53.50 | Saint-N | even a bad hunter can beat a good mage ;P |
| 20:53.53 | break19 | Amadeo: blessing of freedom.. get close enough to HoJ |
| 20:54.11 | Amadeo | what's HoJ? The stun? Mages blink out of those |
| 20:54.28 | break19 | not instantly unless theyre expecting it |
| 20:54.39 | trh | Saint-N: lol? you probably never met a good mage |
| 20:54.41 | NightHawkAtWork | ... which they kind of should be |
| 20:54.48 | Amadeo | in the arena, yeah |
| 20:54.48 | Amadeo | lol |
| 20:54.55 | Amadeo | and then what? I'm specced for healing, I can stare em down |
| 20:54.57 | break19 | plus ya dont use it til after theyve frostnova'd and blinked |
| 20:55.02 | Saint-N | trh: nah most of my grouing friends at either druids or mages ;P |
| 20:55.08 | Saint-N | its fun bugging them |
| 20:55.11 | Amadeo | Silencing shot is a pain also |
| 20:55.23 | Amadeo | too many ways to stop casting, and hardly any ways to stop melee |
| 20:55.29 | Antiarc|Work | Plate. |
| 20:55.30 | trh | Amadeo: yeah.. whole 3 seconds.. woot.. compare that to a 2 minute cooldown that gets wasted due to ice block |
| 20:55.32 | Saint-N | welcome to life as a priest ;P |
| 20:55.50 | Amadeo | Plate doesn't stop damage completely though |
| 20:55.59 | Antiarc|Work | It mitigates a hell of a lot of it though |
| 20:56.00 | CIA-22 | 03athou * r45012 10FuBar_RaidBuffFu/FuBar_RaidBuffFu.lua: |
| 20:56.00 | CIA-22 | FuBar_RaidBuffFu: |
| 20:56.00 | CIA-22 | - hopefully fixes those client freezes |
| 20:56.02 | Amadeo | yeah |
| 20:56.20 | Amadeo | but count up all the spell interrupts/silences there are, it's sick |
| 20:56.20 | break19 | i wish priests in wow were more like daoc.. ie: could wear chain :p |
| 20:56.22 | Saint-N | *shackle*cant do that*fear*trinket*shield*withstands 2 hits |
| 20:56.44 | Saint-N | 15yards away *melee hit* |
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| 20:57.00 | Amadeo | I notice Cleansing is almost pointless now |
| 20:57.16 | Saint-N | welp off to dinner and the simpsons |
| 20:57.18 | Amadeo | DoTs just don't dispel anymore, they resist I guess |
| 20:57.25 | Saint-N | ill come home and ruin it all for you later |
| 20:57.25 | trh | Saint-N: enjoy.. it's a GREAT movie :) |
| 20:57.30 | Amadeo | good for Polymorph though |
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| 20:58.23 | Amadeo | Antiarc|Work: My favorite thing is how most people see me and just ignore me, because they don't even want to bother |
| 20:58.32 | Antiarc|Work | Yes. |
| 20:58.42 | Amadeo | "A Paladin? Screw that. Let's go after the Mage." |
| 20:58.43 | Antiarc|Work | Paladins usually aren't worth targeting till 1 or 2 DPS is down |
| 20:59.04 | trh | nobody attacks paladins first because it takes ages to kill time |
| 20:59.07 | Amadeo | DPS is so high on PTR that it's extremely hard to keep anyone alive |
| 20:59.12 | trh | time for the other parties DPS to kill us |
| 20:59.38 | Amadeo | Yeah, normally I would try to CC them a bit and make them blow a shield or something early on |
| 20:59.50 | trh | yep.. we usually kill paladins last |
| 21:00.05 | Amadeo | what do you do when you start getting hit with mana burn? |
| 21:00.18 | jme | arcane torrent! |
| 21:00.26 | Amadeo | lol |
| 21:00.33 | Amadeo | that's actually come in really handy already |
| 21:00.58 | Amadeo | won a few practice arenas just because of it |
| 21:01.12 | trh | Amadeo: we kill every dps except warriors first, then a healer (if they got two) or two, then warriors, then paladin healer |
| 21:01.26 | trh | Amadeo: and we make sure *no one* hits the warriors, so they don't get too much rage :) |
| 21:01.34 | Amadeo | hehe |
| 21:02.23 | trh | well.. if there's a priest we sometimes kill them while the first dps has a phys immune bubble or sth =) |
| 21:02.54 | Kirkburn|afk | Mikk, ping |
| 21:03.39 | Amadeo | Priests last a long time anymore? |
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| 21:08.11 | Antiarc|Work | Priests with high resilience are a bitch to kill |
| 21:08.16 | Antiarc|Work | But they're easier kills than paladins |
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| 21:10.04 | CIA-22 | 03cryect * r45013 10Recount/ (Recount.lua Recount_Modes.lua Tracker.lua): Recount - Adds partial resist data |
| 21:10.28 | CIA-22 | 03athou * r45014 10FuBar_RaidBuffFu/FuBar_RaidBuffFu.lua: |
| 21:10.28 | CIA-22 | FuBar_RaidBuffFu: |
| 21:10.28 | CIA-22 | - bugfix |
| 21:10.39 | Josh_Borke | Cryect: aren't you supposed to be working on that other mod? |
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| 21:11.33 | Bejitt | hmmm when you rename/move addons, it doesnt update the TOC_data from the new folder |
| 21:11.36 | Amadeo | I only wish I had some instant heals or something |
| 21:11.51 | Bejitt | xb95: ping |
| 21:12.04 | Antiarc|Work | http://youtube.com/watch?v=f3d0BdkRaqA <--- WTB 1x for my cats. |
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| 21:12.41 | Josh_Borke | http://tekkub-wow.googlecode.com/svn/trunk/LocaleQuery/LocaleQuery.lua <3 |
| 21:13.51 | Amadeo | lol, that's so mean |
| 21:14.22 | Antiarc|Work | Amadeo: Ever tried to bathe a cat? |
| 21:14.41 | Bejitt | i have... and that's the PERFECT way to do it |
| 21:14.50 | Bejitt | less claws on you |
| 21:14.58 | Amadeo | Yeah, but if you start early they usually get accustomed to it |
| 21:15.01 | Bejitt | gogo steel and glass |
| 21:15.14 | Amadeo | I can't imagine that gets them very clean anyway |
| 21:15.23 | Antiarc|Work | Both our cats are cats were rescued, so we didn't get 'em as kittens |
| 21:15.25 | jme | Antiarc|Work: hahahaha |
| 21:15.27 | NightHawkAtWork | Bathing cats is one of the two reasons I don't own cats. |
| 21:15.31 | Amadeo | haha |
| 21:15.58 | Amadeo | then you have to put on plate armor and stuff :P |
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| 21:16.05 | NightHawkAtWork | I think i'd rather bathe a block of sodium. |
| 21:16.16 | Chompers | that cat looked pissed |
| 21:16.36 | yacoob | Amadeo, with cat *under* the plate armor... |
| 21:16.39 | Amadeo | But, let me tell you |
| 21:16.48 | Amadeo | It looks like that's the best way to clean a cat |
| 21:16.57 | Amadeo | but that cat had no idea what it was at first...try that the second or third time |
| 21:17.01 | Amadeo | it'll be like bathing them anyway :P |
| 21:17.48 | jme | http://youtube.com/watch?v=FNcBn9o_Ow4 |
| 21:17.50 | jme | whaaaaaaaat |
| 21:18.06 | jme | that was on the "other videos" at the end of what antiarc posted |
| 21:18.25 | Chompers | She Really Tinkles! |
| 21:23.39 | Cryect | Josh_Borke: Hmmm? I work on both, not like Recount is finished :-p |
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| 21:27.10 | CIA-22 | 03totalpackage * r45015 10StellarUF/: |
| 21:27.10 | CIA-22 | StellarUF: |
| 21:27.10 | CIA-22 | - externals fix |
| 21:27.25 | Josh_Borke | work on both?! |
| 21:27.26 | Josh_Borke | how dare you |
| 21:27.33 | Josh_Borke | you're supposed to only work on one project at a time |
| 21:27.36 | Josh_Borke | neglecting all others! |
| 21:29.45 | Josh_Borke | bye all |
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| 21:31.21 | charon | umm, is an ElkBuffBars expert around? how does the Group Spacing setting work, and how do i have different bar groups/settings that sort of "grow" linked to each other? |
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| 21:31.24 | Saroz | can someone add Frame 1 and Frame 2 and Message frame to SCT in Sink? |
| 21:31.44 | Saroz | kindda annoying it forces message frame |
| 21:32.40 | Saroz | poke vhaarr :p |
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| 21:38.27 | Fin | what's the frame function I need to move a frame to a specific position? |
| 21:38.51 | Thrae | Fin: SetPoint. |
| 21:39.06 | Thrae | !api SetPoint |
| 21:39.08 | ThraeBot | Thrae: Could not find an example within http://www.wowwiki.com/API_SetPoint |
| 21:39.21 | Thrae | Ah right, widgets. |
| 21:39.25 | Fin | Thrae: thanks muchly |
| 21:39.43 | ccKep | !api Region_SetPoint |
| 21:39.44 | ccKep | ? |
| 21:39.44 | ThraeBot | ccKep: MainMenuBar:SetPoint("BOTTOMLEFT", "UIParent", "BOTTOMLEFT", 0, 0); -- http://www.wowwiki.com/API_Region_SetPoint |
| 21:41.11 | Thrae | Fin: Frame:SetPoint(anchorRelativeToParent, [X offset], [Y offset], [frameToAnchorTo], [anchorRelativeToSelf], [X offset], [Y offset]) |
| 21:43.59 | Amadeo | IRC with a difference? What kind of difference? |
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| 21:47.48 | NightHawkAtWork | Amadeo: It attacks you with a seven headed mythical beast. That kind of difference. |
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| 21:50.36 | Arrowmaster` | i love wowmetrics.com |
| 21:50.52 | Arrowmaster | http://www.wowmetrics.com/results/us/Burning+Legion/warlock/combined/shadowdmg/page1.html |
| 21:51.14 | Arrowmaster | yay for half of the top 10 being from my guild |
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| 21:52.01 | NightHawkAtWork | thats an interesting site |
| 21:52.29 | Arrowmaster | i love that you can request updates for characters |
| 21:52.42 | Arrowmaster | since the automatic updates take too long |
| 21:53.07 | NightHawkAtWork | *nod* |
| 21:53.13 | CIA-22 | 03nickenyfiken * r45016 10FuBar_TrainerFu/ (11 files in 2 dirs): (log message trimmed) |
| 21:53.13 | CIA-22 | FuBar_TrainerFu: |
| 21:53.13 | CIA-22 | - embeds.xml. |
| 21:53.13 | CIA-22 | - Added license. |
| 21:53.13 | CIA-22 | - Removed some unused lib references in files. |
| 21:53.14 | CIA-22 | - Fixed weapon trainer and portal trainer note creation. |
| 21:53.16 | CIA-22 | - Fixed trainer notes not showing up on map. |
| 21:53.42 | Arrowmaster | wish you could sort by spell hit though |
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| 21:58.23 | CIA-22 | 03ryuji * r45017 10Omen/localization_zhTW.lua: Omen:update zhTW local |
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| 22:02.25 | CIA-22 | 03earthbane * r45018 10HellbenderDKP/ (6 files): |
| 22:02.25 | CIA-22 | HellbenderDKP: Initial import |
| 22:02.25 | CIA-22 | - Hellbender DKP will dynamically calculate item DKP values from preset weights on item attributes. |
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| 22:06.03 | CIA-22 | 03earthbane * r45019 10HellbenderDKP/: |
| 22:06.03 | CIA-22 | HellbenderDKP: |
| 22:06.03 | CIA-22 | - Setting up svn externals |
| 22:06.25 | Saroz | [Ammo], why is oRA2 locked for update on the SVN? |
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| 22:09.07 | Bejitt | http://www.wowace.com/wiki/Category:Addons is starting to look... familiar :o |
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| 22:10.51 | kergoth | oi, trying to run my addon set in git is a nightmare due to the reliance upon $Rev$ and other keywords |
| 22:10.52 | kergoth | hmm |
| 22:11.44 | NightHawkAtWork | cant you get it to do the replacement when it gets uh... imported, or whatever, from svn to git? |
| 22:12.03 | kergoth | i could, by hacking up git-svn, but then you have sort of false history |
| 22:12.09 | kergoth | every diff you'd see that line changing |
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| 22:12.16 | kergoth | could result in conflicts |
| 22:12.21 | NightHawkAtWork | Hmm |
| 22:12.53 | NightHawkAtWork | You're like the mad scientiest of source control, aren't you. |
| 22:13.10 | durcyn | he's the asian kid in the yellow source control honda. |
| 22:13.50 | NightHawkAtWork | in a week you'll be all GENTELMEN, BEHOLD! And show us this horribly disfigured frankensteinien creation of git and svn that makes babies cry and women shriek in terror. |
| 22:14.03 | kergoth | hahah |
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| 22:15.39 | dodgizzla | Woah.. BigWigs and ChatSounds from Prat don't play nice together :D |
| 22:16.07 | mikma | solution: disable both |
| 22:16.11 | dodgizzla | I see. |
| 22:16.32 | Undine | chatsounds? |
| 22:16.58 | dodgizzla | Undine: That thingie that goes *zoink* when somebody types something e.g. in guild chat |
| 22:17.54 | Mecdemort | is there an ace addon that lets you link items from memory? |
| 22:18.01 | Undine | ah, disabled :) |
| 22:18.54 | Thrae | Mecdemort: Why does it have to be Ace? Anyway, KC_Items. |
| 22:18.57 | mikma | Mecdemort: like, from brains to computer? no :D |
| 22:19.24 | Mecdemort | well i used to use linkerator but its gone laggy as all hell |
| 22:19.46 | Thrae | Hmmm, Ludwig is good too I hear. |
| 22:20.00 | Thrae | Linkerator always had problems... |
| 22:20.35 | Thrae | Kaelten really needs to revamp KC_Items, which is why I mentioned non-Ace solutions. |
| 22:20.38 | Mecdemort | its exactly what i want, but its just screwy now |
| 22:20.54 | Arrowmaster | screwy how? |
| 22:21.30 | Undine | i get on okay with linkerator |
| 22:21.35 | Mecdemort | it wont add items that it sees, and when i try to search for items it lags me out for a good 4 seconds |
| 22:21.51 | Arrowmaster | try ludwig |
| 22:22.01 | Mecdemort | ya im looking that up now |
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| 22:22.54 | charon | who wanted to know if prat could highlight patterns earlier today? cause... it works for me |
| 22:23.49 | Coruss | anyone know of any enchant selling addons that are ace'd? |
| 22:24.03 | Diao | i wish ludwig's linkerator clone had an option |
| 22:24.05 | Diao | to not autocomplete |
| 22:24.14 | Diao | cause sometimes i want to type something in brackets and it won't let me |
| 22:24.18 | Diao | it inserts some stupid item instead |
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| 22:35.23 | CIA-22 | 03athou * r45020 10FuBar_RaidBuffFu/ (FuBar_RaidBuffFu.lua localization.lua): |
| 22:35.23 | CIA-22 | FuBar_RaidBuffFu: |
| 22:35.23 | CIA-22 | - added a "count" option for each buff to ignore that buff from the missing buff count and raid announce (useful for benedictions) |
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| 22:40.18 | Undine | whee. nice night in kara :) |
| 22:41.28 | Fisker- | btw Cryect |
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| 22:46.41 | syeren | ckknight :)? |
| 22:47.50 | ckknight | syeren: (: |
| 22:48.15 | syeren | Just a suggestion for Parrot which would be really useful to some people, I noticed you add a throttle for Outgoing events. |
| 22:48.20 | syeren | How about some incoming events :) |
| 22:48.34 | ckknight | example? |
| 22:48.41 | CIA-22 | 03nickenyfiken * r45021 10FuBar_TrainerFu/ (FuBar_TrainerFu.toc TrainerFu.lua): |
| 22:48.41 | CIA-22 | FuBar_TrainerFu: |
| 22:48.41 | CIA-22 | - Removed FuBar dependency |
| 22:48.41 | CIA-22 | - Removed debug print. |
| 22:48.54 | syeren | As you know I do arena, and sometimes I'm being assisted heavily. |
| 22:49.00 | syeren | And I'm being spammed by damage. |
| 22:49.27 | syeren | I would rather it be added up and parsed every 1.5 seconds than -XXX -XXXX -XXXX -XXXXX |
| 22:50.16 | Nicken | I wan't Parrot to eat my enemies cookies. |
| 22:50.28 | syeren | But of course you have to think it's useful to be added :) |
| 22:50.38 | ckknight | syeren: that's in |
| 22:50.44 | syeren | It is, how can I enable it? |
| 22:50.50 | syeren | It didn't seem to work when I tried it before. |
| 22:51.48 | CIA-22 | 03athou * r45022 10FuBar_RaidBuffFu/FuBar_RaidBuffFu.lua: |
| 22:51.48 | CIA-22 | FuBar_RaidBuffFu: |
| 22:51.48 | CIA-22 | - bugfix |
| 22:54.23 | Fisker- | here Cryect Cryect Cryect |
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| 23:05.17 | Gnarfoz | wtf |
| 23:07.41 | rubik | hm.. game crashed with some mpq file corrupt error.. never seen that before.. now crashes non-stop on relog |
| 23:07.51 | rubik | there's some file checker/fixer i can use or something, right? |
| 23:08.07 | Cryect | Fisker-: yes? |
| 23:08.25 | Cryect | try restarting rubik |
| 23:08.37 | rubik | Cryect: i did... it dies on restart.. ): |
| 23:08.50 | Cryect | your computer? |
| 23:08.55 | rubik | running that repair.exe file checker |
| 23:09.03 | Cryect | the repair exe is worthless |
| 23:09.05 | rubik | sorry, wow.exe crashes.. no bsod/computer is fine |
| 23:09.21 | Cryect | its an issue with wow and it goes away on a restart |
| 23:09.27 | Cryect | or it did for me when I had it before |
| 23:09.32 | CIA-22 | 03antiarc * r45023 10Omen/embeds.xml: Omen: Don't load GraphLib for now until graphs are actually back in. |
| 23:09.34 | rubik | oh.. restart pc you meant |
| 23:09.41 | rubik | duh.. sorry |
| 23:09.42 | Cryect | Somehow the computer got in a state where it kept erroring out from mpq error |
| 23:09.43 | rubik | will try it |
| 23:10.10 | Cryect | I mean it is possible the mpq went bad but hopefully not |
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| 23:14.46 | hypetech | anybody know if onebag is fixed now from where it got broken earlier? :) |
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| 23:23.33 | Mecdemort | oh noes baggins be down in a flamming heap |
| 23:24.10 | dodgizzla | How come Quatz_Mirror grows down, even if I set it to grow upwards :D |
| 23:24.40 | CIA-22 | 03athou * r45024 10FuBar_RaidBuffFu/FuBar_RaidBuffFu.lua: |
| 23:24.40 | CIA-22 | FuBar_RaidBuffFu: |
| 23:24.40 | CIA-22 | - playernames are now class-colored |
| 23:25.24 | rubik | Cryect: that worked (so far).. rebooting the pc.. it wasn't a corrupt mpq file.. thanks for the suggestion! |
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| 23:27.02 | Mecdemort | Nargiddley, ping |
| 23:27.20 | Cryect | good |
| 23:29.25 | Nargiddley | Mecdemort, whats up ? |
| 23:30.43 | Mecdemort | Nargiddley: I'm getting a bunch of nil value errors in Baggins-Filtering.lua |
| 23:30.56 | Nargiddley | be specific |
| 23:33.20 | Mecdemort | line 1093, ipairs table expected got nil; so i added a check to make sure categories[rule.category] exists before calling CheckCategory again, and that gives on line 729: attempt to index field? (a nil value) |
| 23:33.50 | Nargiddley | you've got a category rule set for a non existant category ? |
| 23:34.07 | Mecdemort | not to my knowledge |
| 23:34.22 | Nargiddley | a new category rule with no category ? |
| 23:34.53 | Mecdemort | let me look through my categories |
| 23:35.13 | RogueShadow | omg. I updated and there were no parrot updates. Does this mean its' almost done!! |
| 23:35.15 | Mecdemort | ahh hah |
| 23:35.32 | Mecdemort | ya i deleted a category that a category rule was looking for |
| 23:35.40 | Nargiddley | k i'll add a check |
| 23:35.59 | Mecdemort | ya like trying to delete one when a bag looks at it would be perfect |
| 23:36.33 | Nargiddley | i'll just make it not error, the rule wont match anything |
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| 23:48.12 | CIA-22 | 03cryect * r45025 10Recount/GUI_Detail.lua: Recount - In Summary Mode, Damage Types without values (except Melee & Physical) will get hidden while the rest will widen to make it easier to read the text |
| 23:50.02 | xb95 | Bejitt: pong |
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| 23:51.15 | Bejitt | yarrrr |
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| 23:52.17 | CIA-22 | 03xb95 * r45026 10RaidInviteHelper/RaidInviteHelper.toc: |
| 23:52.17 | CIA-22 | RaidInviteHelper: |
| 23:52.17 | CIA-22 | - more verbose description (mostly so the post commit hooks will smack the wiki around) |
| 23:52.32 | xb95 | let's see if that worked |
| 23:52.59 | Bejitt | yup it did |
| 23:53.22 | Bejitt | the infobox actually shows stuff now ;D |
| 23:53.35 | xb95 | EDIT CONFLICT .. lol, I tried to add it in too. |
| 23:53.45 | Bejitt | haha |
| 23:53.52 | Bejitt | beat ya to it. sorry =x |
| 23:53.55 | xb95 | I was wondering about that. I was going to copy TOC_Data/CowTip and edit it but something about "auto generated" made me give up. Then I wandered off. |
| 23:53.56 | xb95 | S'ok! |
| 23:54.08 | Bejitt | hehe |
| 23:54.10 | xb95 | You guys seem pretty on top of watching things. That's pretty cool. I didn't expect folks to be so helpful. :P |
| 23:54.50 | xb95 | Next I need to figure out if I have an account on Trac and if not how to get one. |
| 23:55.09 | Cryect | Just wait till you start pinging and ponging people for hours on end because you both keep getting off and on |
| 23:55.19 | xb95 | Kek. |
| 23:57.40 | CIA-22 | 03durcyn * r45027 10FuBar_tcgTradeskills/ (5 files in 2 dirs): FuBar_tcgTradeskills: use Sink. |
