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| 00:17.57 | CIA-22 | Baggins: Fix for nil error if you remove a category that a rule is referencing |
| 00:17.57 | CIA-22 | - Add Ability to show Money on one of the bags, configurable in Layout Options |
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| 01:00.53 | Mecdemort | Nargiddley: There's also a weird glitch when switching between profiles, the correct bag skin gets selected, but doesnt update the look and when you switch between bag skins after that i get: Baggins.lua 2253 local index sectionconf a nil value |
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| 01:27.37 | siIentium | hello |
| 01:27.55 | CIA-22 | 03starinnia * r45031 10SimpleMD/ (Locale-enUS.lua SimpleMD.lua): |
| 01:27.55 | CIA-22 | SimpleMD: |
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| 01:28.36 | Shirik | allo |
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| 01:31.09 | CIA-22 | 03nargiddley * r45032 10Baggins/Baggins.lua: Baggins: Fix for nil error after switching profiles then skins |
| 01:31.28 | Nargiddley | Mecdemort, that gets the nil error. I couldnt reproduce the bags not getting skinned tho |
| 01:32.59 | Mecdemort | Nargiddley: ok ill check it out |
| 01:36.02 | ckknight | so... how do people feel about an Ace3? |
| 01:36.16 | Cryect | what exactly would be different? |
| 01:36.34 | CIA-22 | 03sylvanaar * r45033 10Prat/ (Prat.lua Prat_Modules/modules/PopupMessage.lua): Prat: Handle default case in popupmessage. set the sink to ourself. |
| 01:36.42 | Cryect | must have some plans :) |
| 01:36.58 | ckknight | Cryect: smaller footprint, removal of some things that I deem unnecessary, splitting up of certain things |
| 01:37.09 | ckknight | separation of blizzard events and custom IPC messages |
| 01:37.39 | ckknight | just throwing ideas around, though |
| 01:38.04 | ckknight | it would not be an easy upgrade process :-P |
| 01:39.59 | Mecdemort | Hmm for some reason an item in Tradeskill.Gather.Pickpocketing is sorting into Tradeskill.Mat |
| 01:40.41 | Nargiddley | is the item in Tradeskill.Mat as well ? |
| 01:40.44 | Starinnia | but but... i just stared coding with Ace2... :P |
| 01:40.56 | Mecdemort | when i look in the rightclick menu it's only in the pickpocketing one |
| 01:41.16 | Nargiddley | what item ? |
| 01:41.33 | ckknight | Starinnia: :-P |
| 01:41.38 | ckknight | don't be discouraged |
| 01:41.48 | ckknight | even if Ace3 is made, Ace2 will be supported for a while |
| 01:41.50 | ckknight | ...probably |
| 01:41.50 | Mecdemort | Eldr'naan Hood of the Owl, 24673 |
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| 01:43.20 | Industrial | im in im in |
| 01:43.24 | Industrial | wait for me |
| 01:43.27 | Shirik | lol |
| 01:43.28 | Industrial | ok |
| 01:43.28 | Industrial | go |
| 01:43.42 | ckknight_ | go what? |
| 01:44.03 | Shirik | I told him you guys were discussing Ace3 and he was like "ooh ooh where" |
| 01:44.08 | ckknight | lol |
| 01:44.14 | ckknight | I might commit it |
| 01:44.30 | Starinnia | we should call it Ace 40k... just for the hell of it |
| 01:44.35 | ckknight | lol |
| 01:44.41 | ckknight | its codename is Joker, currently |
| 01:44.46 | ckknight | so no one adopts it prematurely |
| 01:45.12 | ckknight | Industrial: you'd probably like it. It's lightweight, and you tend to go for that sort of thing |
| 01:45.45 | CIA-22 | 03sylvanaar * r45034 10Prat/ (Prat.lua Prat_Modules/modules/PopupMessage.lua): Prat: Revert debug changes |
| 01:45.53 | Industrial | maybe ;0 |
| 01:46.15 | Industrial | ckknight: Can't you just use dongle? |
| 01:46.31 | Mecdemort | Nargiddley: It's deffinitly only in that one category in periodic table so im just at a loss |
| 01:46.37 | ckknight | Industrial: ...no |
| 01:47.20 | ckknight | Industrial: though they probably will resemble each other, somewhat |
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| 01:50.07 | Nargiddley | Mecdemort, did you do anything before it sorted wrong. does it sort right after a reload ? |
| 01:50.33 | rophy | how do i check if an editbox have the current input focus or not? |
| 01:50.45 | rophy | there has a EditBox:SetFocus() but no EditBox:GetFocus() |
| 01:52.27 | ckknight | anything like IsFocus()? |
| 01:52.32 | rophy | i dunno, i'm asking |
| 01:52.33 | Mecdemort | No its the first time I've used the rule Tradeskill.Mat |
| 01:52.36 | Nargiddley | Mecdemort, what is the exact rule that it is matching |
| 01:52.51 | Mecdemort | PTSet:Tradeskill.Mat |
| 01:52.53 | rophy | searching "focus" at wowwiki doesn't get anything close to that. |
| 01:53.00 | Nargiddley | the whole category |
| 01:53.57 | Industrial | Anyway, it would be splendid if all the (false) advocacy around Ace2 would be killed at the same time too. In perticular the "IS IT ACE" and "ITS 89% ACE" and "-Ace2-" phenomenons. |
| 01:54.03 | Mecdemort | PTSet:Tradeskill.Mat, NOT Category :Reagent |
| 01:54.42 | Nargiddley | is it a reagent ? |
| 01:54.51 | Arrowmaster | your never going to solve the problem of stupid users |
| 01:54.52 | ckknight | Industrial: arguably. That's more of a social phenomenon rather than a technical one |
| 01:54.57 | Industrial | yes |
| 01:54.59 | Nargiddley | cause the problem is most likely not going to be the PTSet rule |
| 01:55.55 | Industrial | There needs to be a really good forum post or wiki page or something describing exactly how dumb it is and why its dumb with a kind request to stop being dumb, so that it can be linked to everywhere we find it happening. |
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| 01:56.10 | Arrowmaster | Industrial: people wont read it |
| 01:56.35 | Industrial | what if the name of the poster says Administrator ? |
| 01:56.41 | Arrowmaster | nope |
| 01:56.48 | Mecdemort | oo i see, there's a gather section under Tradeskill.Mat |
| 01:57.32 | Mecdemort | nvm, no problem here |
| 01:58.50 | durcyn | Industrial: the solution is to forcibly delete wowaceupdater |
| 01:59.06 | Nargiddley | Tradeskill.Mat.ByProfession is what the default profile uses for Mats |
| 01:59.15 | durcyn | lazy bastards jerking off over one button updates is the problem here |
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| 02:02.21 | Industrial | durcyn: yeah |
| 02:02.38 | Gnarfoz | no way, that was going on before the existance of WAU already |
| 02:03.00 | Arrowmaster | yeah but then it moved from people being stupid to people being lazy |
| 02:03.26 | Gnarfoz | I think they're still stupid, tho. maybe lazy additionally ;D |
| 02:03.30 | Industrial | they talk of Wau availability. |
| 02:04.07 | Industrial | doesnt that hurt inside, reading that? |
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| 02:04.21 | Industrial | people that.. dont .. they just dont care.. |
| 02:04.38 | kergoth | Antiarc: has omen been switched from soar to sink yet? |
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| 02:04.55 | NightHawkTheSane | Industrial: while I agree about it's stupidity, it really is understandable stupidity. |
| 02:05.16 | NightHawkTheSane | For your average user, the ability to keep your addons up to date without having to THINK about it is extremely attractive |
| 02:05.31 | Industrial | Well yes, but that means the update doesnt mean anything to you |
| 02:05.37 | durcyn | kergoth: neg |
| 02:05.40 | Industrial | its just a red or green flag |
| 02:05.43 | kergoth | boo |
| 02:05.43 | NightHawkTheSane | Well, of course. |
| 02:05.45 | Gnarfoz | Industrial: the majority of the world's population is stupid or ignorant about at least one thing or the other, if not about many things - for WoW addons, this majority likely exceeds the 90% mark by far |
| 02:05.45 | Industrial | updated or not |
| 02:06.20 | Industrial | Gnarfoz: thats not a reason to feed the problem |
| 02:06.29 | Industrial | besides it doesnt help hosting either |
| 02:06.31 | Gnarfoz | it just means you won't be able to solve it |
| 02:06.39 | Industrial | not completely |
| 02:08.32 | Industrial | but thats alright, nobody knows everything |
| 02:09.38 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r45035 10Joker/ (. Joker.lua Joker.toc): |
| 02:09.38 | CIA-22 | Joker - initial import |
| 02:09.38 | CIA-22 | - this is a pet project that most sane people shouldn't deal with. |
| 02:09.38 | CIA-22 | - this is an addon development framework similar to Ace2, only very stripped down. |
| 02:09.38 | CIA-22 | - remember that this is an intellectual exercise and is not meant to be used in the wild. |
| 02:09.57 | Industrial | you can however make sure that you only attract people that want to learn (about anything) - or already know what's needed, or at least minimize the ones that dont |
| 02:10.26 | Gnarfoz | I still don't see the point of intentionally decreasing a project's userbase, somehow |
| 02:10.36 | Industrial | by amongst things making it harder to reach |
| 02:10.37 | ckknight | but then you limit your userbase needlessly |
| 02:10.54 | Industrial | is it an userbase you want? |
| 02:11.00 | ckknight | basically |
| 02:11.00 | Industrial | why'd you want dumb users? |
| 02:11.10 | ckknight | why not? |
| 02:11.25 | Industrial | because they are not helping |
| 02:11.30 | ckknight | users provide validity and purpose to what we are doing |
| 02:11.35 | ckknight | dumb or smart doesn't matter |
| 02:11.52 | Industrial | that depends |
| 02:11.53 | Gnarfoz | it's like publishing a newspaper noone reads - why bother? |
| 02:12.03 | Industrial | I happen to like to use my own addons |
| 02:12.16 | Industrial | and improve others' where I see fit |
| 02:12.34 | ckknight | I don't play much |
| 02:12.38 | ckknight | I code for coding's sake |
| 02:12.39 | Industrial | that makes me of more use to other addon authors then joe who doesnt care |
| 02:13.22 | Gnarfoz | joe is not an author, tho, is he? |
| 02:13.30 | Nargiddley | I happen to like feedback on my addons that give me ideas for features, alot of which I like but wouldnt have thought to put in |
| 02:14.12 | Industrial | well ok, true |
| 02:14.37 | Industrial | some users may help you |
| 02:14.44 | Industrial | but those are the thinkiers, anyway |
| 02:14.47 | Industrial | -e |
| 02:15.23 | Industrial | wouldnt those also eb the ones still able to reach you well without Wau? |
| 02:16.08 | Nargiddley | i dont see a relationship between Wau and requesting featues |
| 02:16.33 | ckknight | I get verbal appreciation as well as donations every now and again by people who use WAU |
| 02:16.42 | ckknight | so I think it's a good thing |
| 02:17.17 | Gnarfoz | and I can't really decide on what would be worse, the increased load the higher number of svn checkouts would bring, or the higher traffic load and download numbers WAU brings now |
| 02:17.57 | Gnarfoz | files.* was originally created to reduce stress on the server, wasn't it? (maybe misinformed on that) |
| 02:18.13 | Industrial | Gnarfoz: I'd rather see a wowinterface'ish website for wowace - not only for Ace based addons |
| 02:18.18 | Industrial | Gnarfoz: yes |
| 02:18.34 | Industrial | Gnarfoz: and separated svn's, public and dev |
| 02:18.46 | Gnarfoz | it's a difficult thing to tackle, whichever way one approaches it, it seems :> |
| 02:19.01 | Chompers | http://ace.pastey.net/71440 |
| 02:19.06 | Chompers | haw :P |
| 02:19.09 | Industrial | yeah |
| 02:20.26 | Gnarfoz | Chompers: lol neat, but I'd guess someone will probably be able to make a griefing ticket out of that ;D |
| 02:21.19 | Chompers | it's legal according to GMs |
| 02:21.39 | Chompers | as you 'invited' them into your group |
| 02:21.41 | ckknight | lol, Chompers |
| 02:26.30 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r45036 10Joker/Joker.lua: Joker - give addons a metatable that has a __tostring metamethod. |
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| 02:29.39 | Keias | What's Joker? |
| 02:30.01 | Industrial | ha |
| 02:30.12 | Industrial | have you read the description? |
| 02:30.13 | ckknight | Keias: secret addon |
| 02:30.28 | Industrial | prime example |
| 02:30.32 | Industrial | anyway... |
| 02:30.35 | Wobin | DongAce3 |
| 02:30.36 | Keias | Well you're not very fun! |
| 02:31.22 | Amadeo | TwoHanDongle |
| 02:31.22 | Cryect | ckknight: any way in parrot when I get interrupted to have it say School unlocked instead of all my spells become ready after the lockout is done |
| 02:31.47 | ckknight | Cryect: I have no good way of testing it |
| 02:32.36 | Cryect | ckknight: could detect the interrupt then check the spell and see its school and check cooldown time |
| 02:33.54 | Cryect | Oh hmm guess spelsl don't say their school easily |
| 02:34.49 | NM|Xinhuan | does doing durnhold keep non-heroic give rep beyond revered? |
| 02:34.51 | ckknight | they do well enough, Cryect |
| 02:35.00 | ckknight | I just don't get interrupted often |
| 02:36.37 | Gnarfoz | NM|Xinhuan: dunno, but it doesn't seem very likely? |
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| 02:36.54 | NM|Xinhuan | i dunno, that's why i'm asking :o |
| 02:37.00 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r45037 10Joker/Joker.lua: Joker - bugfix, cache globals. |
| 02:37.04 | Antiarc | Joker - Evil addon of awesome. It'll bat your mans. Dahahaha. |
| 02:37.09 | Kaydeethree | http://www.wowwiki.com/Keepers_of_Time |
| 02:37.24 | Shirik | wtf |
| 02:37.26 | Shirik | it's not an animal |
| 02:37.26 | Cryect | Well its just kinda annoying seeing like a million spells become unlocked :-p |
| 02:37.30 | Shirik | impossible, that must be an impostor |
| 02:37.39 | Cryect | not end of the world |
| 02:37.41 | ckknight | lol, Shirik |
| 02:37.48 | ckknight | it's a reference to the April Fools' joke |
| 02:38.00 | ckknight | http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=5506.0 |
| 02:38.05 | ckknight | alright, I'm going to my brother's |
| 02:38.14 | ckknight | feel free to go through Joker |
| 02:39.20 | Keias | Your new projects should be named after batman villians instead of animals imo |
| 02:40.51 | Tuller | How about TedKennedy - Its boated |
| 02:40.59 | Tuller | yes, bloated :P |
| 02:41.08 | Industrial | BloatFish |
| 02:41.27 | Industrial | (I know its blowfish) |
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| 02:44.03 | siIentium | Thrae: I think TinyTip is missing a dependency for TipLib, so WAU doesn't automatically install TipLib with the "Automatic Dependency Download" option - this gave me an error on login the first time I didn't use !!!SAL or embedded libs any more, until I re-installed TipLib manually |
| 02:44.33 | CIA-22 | 03cryect * r45038 10Recount/ (Sync.lua Tracker.lua): Recount - Uses BabbleSpell for translating spells back and forth for syncing |
| 02:44.37 | durcyn | siIentium: your WAU can't help you here. |
| 02:45.06 | Wobin | WHERE IS YOUR WAU NOW? |
| 02:45.16 | Industrial | haha |
| 02:45.16 | siIentium | I think WAU could, if tiplib was listed as a dependency in the toc |
| 02:45.19 | durcyn | no. |
| 02:45.27 | durcyn | tinytip's not on wowace.com anymore |
| 02:45.56 | durcyn | whatever remains on svn and /files is unsupported legacy code. |
| 02:45.57 | siIentium | huh? hmkay, it was listed in WAU when I checked it earlier today |
| 02:46.01 | durcyn | http://threaw-wow.googlecode.com |
| 02:46.03 | durcyn | doh |
| 02:46.08 | durcyn | http://thrae-wow.googlecode.com |
| 02:46.10 | siIentium | ok, good to know - thank you |
| 02:46.49 | Gnarfoz | if it's not locked, it could of course be updated for that, seeing that it still works |
| 02:47.11 | durcyn | true. is it just missing the external? |
| 02:47.20 | Neebler | hmm anyone familiar with filtering out events in Parrot. I added "Thorns" to a Suppression but that doesn't work |
| 02:47.21 | Industrial | or.. removed? |
| 02:47.36 | Industrial | seeing as its being actively devloped by its (only) developer |
| 02:47.42 | Gnarfoz | it was removed |
| 02:47.45 | Gnarfoz | and that remove was reverted |
| 02:47.51 | Gnarfoz | so I guess it's supposed to stay, for now? |
| 02:47.58 | Industrial | *shrug* |
| 02:48.00 | Tuller | ckknight: You forgot to make a few things local in TryToLoadStandalone |
| 02:48.03 | Gnarfoz | author knows best, I guess ^^ |
| 02:48.09 | Industrial | yup |
| 02:48.11 | durcyn | yeah, tiplib's not in svn:externals |
| 02:48.12 | siIentium | it works fine for me, I just thought I'd mention this so other WAU users dont get into the same (small) problem of having to install tiplib manually |
| 02:48.27 | durcyn | nor is it in the toc |
| 02:49.37 | Gnarfoz | meh, my wow looks so weird now after two weeks of using a 1680x1050 15" notebook display o_O (actually, everything does) |
| 02:49.38 | siIentium | tiplib is in !!!SAL, so it worked fine before I switched from !!!SAL to "Automatic Dependency Download" |
| 02:50.37 | durcyn | eh, can't commit fixes either, it's locked. |
| 02:50.43 | durcyn | stupid fucking addon drama |
| 02:50.49 | Gnarfoz | yay, drama! |
| 02:51.22 | Industrial | durcyn: blah blah just contact Thrae |
| 02:51.33 | durcyn | i don't care |
| 02:51.34 | Gnarfoz | the new one is coming along nicely tho, although I've switched to another of ckk's creations for those purposes ;> |
| 02:51.36 | durcyn | but it's an easy fix |
| 02:51.41 | Industrial | then why were you trying to commit a fix? |
| 02:51.51 | durcyn | and i can't commit the easy fix because silly drama |
| 02:51.54 | durcyn | so nevermind |
| 02:53.31 | siIentium | oh noes, what have I started? (I have no idea what drama happened before, I'm here for my first time today to report this dependency thing) |
| 02:54.01 | durcyn | it's not worth mentioning, just poke thrae when you see him |
| 02:54.05 | kergoth | ..\AddOns\Recount\GUI_Main.lua line 400: |
| 02:54.05 | kergoth | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:54.06 | kergoth | hmm |
| 02:54.19 | durcyn | though he'll probably suggest you update to the current version from googlecode |
| 02:54.30 | Tuller | maxn? |
| 02:54.40 | siIentium | the funny thing is, TinyTip isnt on googlecode |
| 02:54.42 | Tuller | that should be # anyway, shouldn't it? |
| 02:54.52 | Tuller | then how the hell do I have tinytip? |
| 02:54.56 | kergoth | not necessarily, depends on the table contents |
| 02:55.05 | kergoth | siIentium, of course it is. |
| 02:55.31 | siIentium | at least not under the link durcyn gave me |
| 02:55.34 | durcyn | http://thrae-wow.googlecode.com/svn/trunk/TinyTip/ |
| 02:55.39 | Tuller | www.google.com/p/thrae-wow |
| 02:56.09 | durcyn | to be fair, there's not a zip posted. |
| 02:56.13 | Tuller | http://code.google.com/p/thrae-wow/ :) |
| 02:56.28 | siIentium | oh ok, I should have digged a bit deeper :) |
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| 02:56.54 | Cryect | Antiarc: how do you handle mob translations (curious for a description I dig through your code) |
| 02:58.05 | clad|away | Anyone here use Clique with either Pitbull or Grid? |
| 02:58.32 | Cryect | Actually wait, maybe I can use threat for that |
| 02:59.08 | Gnarfoz | clad|away: did when I leveled up my now-a-mule paladin |
| 02:59.17 | clad|away | Ah, I just need someone who runs them both now. |
| 02:59.18 | Gnarfoz | clad|away: clique + pitbull, that is |
| 02:59.30 | clad|away | so I don't have to download anythign to test out.. someone's reporting a bug, just wondering what the deal is. |
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| 02:59.38 | Gnarfoz | I can relog to him once my AH scan finishes, if you haven't got someone by then ;) |
| 02:59.43 | clad|away | heh |
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| 03:04.42 | kergoth | anyone know how to get recount to do its graphing? |
| 03:06.13 | CIA-22 | 03cryect * r45039 10Recount/Sync.lua: Recount - Now uses Threat to handle translating of mob names for different locales |
| 03:06.26 | Cryect | shift click names :-p |
| 03:06.39 | Cryect | Eventually you will be able to right click for a popup of all the things you can do but not yet |
| 03:08.06 | CIA-22 | 03cryect * r45040 10Recount/Sync.lua: Recount - Forgot to translate one part of syncing (the new sync code) >_> |
| 03:10.15 | Gnarfoz | clad|away: seems to work fine for me? any specifics on that bug? |
| 03:10.35 | clad|away | Gnarfoz: Do any PItbull/Grid frames show up if you go into Clique, then click the "Options" button? |
| 03:11.00 | Antiarc | Cryect: Basically, when a raid member of another locale targets a mob that I don't have a translation for in their locale I ask them for the translation |
| 03:11.45 | Cryect | k I decided it was best to just use threat's |
| 03:11.49 | Cryect | since I'm already using threat for threat |
| 03:11.57 | Gnarfoz | clad|away: only have Pitbull, but "PitBullUnitFrame1" through 7 show up in that list, yes |
| 03:12.01 | Cryect | might as well use its translation capabilites instead of rewriting them |
| 03:12.07 | durcyn | Antiarc: how do you feel about SinkLib in re: Omen? |
| 03:12.18 | clad|away | Gnarfoz: Hrm, okay.. thanks. |
| 03:12.20 | CIA-22 | 03cryect * r45041 10Recount/ (. Sync.lua): Recount - Removes old sync code involving range checking and removes RangeCheck-1.0 as an external |
| 03:12.24 | Antiarc | durcyn: I'm moving Omen to SinkLib when I get a chance |
| 03:12.42 | durcyn | if someone else were to ninja commit it, you wouldn't complain then? |
| 03:13.06 | Gngsk | long as the schmuck didn't break 10 things in the process! |
| 03:13.20 | durcyn | hi Gngsk =) |
| 03:13.24 | CIA-22 | 03kemayo * r45042 10Quixote/Quixote-1.0/Quixote-1.0.lua: Quixote: Improve checks for not-in-item-cache items from party members. |
| 03:13.24 | Gnarfoz | now who'd do something like that? :P |
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| 03:13.27 | Gngsk | :P |
| 03:14.26 | Antiarc | durcyn: Not at all, just remove the Soar external while you're at it |
| 03:16.38 | CIA-22 | 03kaelten * r45043 10OneBag/OneCore.lua: OneBag: removed changes. Forcing frame strata to 'fix' a conflict between mods is not a good solution. |
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| 03:17.09 | durcyn | Gngsk: it's sysadmin day, you have to be nice to mde for another hour and a half =P |
| 03:19.42 | Gngsk | durcyn, yes sir! |
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| 03:20.29 | NightHawkTheSane | Psh, to hell with that. durcyn fix my damn internet! |
| 03:20.30 | mikma | screw you guys, i'm going to bed |
| 03:20.49 | NightHawkTheSane | I'm losing valuable youtube time, man! |
| 03:22.03 | CIA-22 | 03durcyn * r45044 10Omen/ (Libs/ Omen.lua Omen.toc embeds.xml): Omen: use Sink instead of Soar. Tested, for once. |
| 03:22.54 | CIA-22 | 03cryect * r45045 10Recount/Sync.lua: Recount - Won't accept sync messages from version earlier than Revision 45030 and labels them as incompatible in the version check |
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| 03:26.38 | etip | !api CreateFontString() |
| 03:26.39 | ThraeBot | etip: Could not find a relevant page. Perhaps you could be so kind as to create one? http://www.wowwiki.com/API_CreateFontString() |
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| 03:26.46 | hypetech | prat error |
| 03:26.46 | hypetech | [2007/07/27 23:24:07-692-x1]: Prat\Prat.lua:383: AceAddon: AceOO-2.0: Library "DebugComponent-1.0" does not exist. |
| 03:26.51 | hypetech | Ace2\AceLibrary\AceLibrary.lua:100: in function <Interface\AddOns\Ace2\AceLibrary\AceLibrary.lua:53> |
| 03:26.53 | hypetech | (tail call): ?: |
| 03:26.55 | hypetech | (tail call): ?: |
| 03:26.57 | hypetech | AceAddon-2.0-44196 (Ace2):974: in function `new' |
| 03:26.59 | hypetech | Prat\Prat.lua:383: in main chunk |
| 03:27.05 | hypetech | shit |
| 03:27.07 | hypetech | sorry |
| 03:27.09 | hypetech | meant to paste my pastey link |
| 03:27.11 | hypetech | http://www.pastey.net/71444 |
| 03:27.13 | hypetech | lol |
| 03:27.17 | hypetech | btw, onebag is still b0rked :-\ |
| 03:27.34 | Keias | Deleting Saved Variables worked for me |
| 03:27.35 | sylvanaar | it was fixed also i think |
| 03:28.09 | sylvanaar | 45034 |
| 03:28.30 | CIA-22 | 03cryect * r45046 10Recount/Sync.lua: Recount - Slight bug in a pattern (copied and pasted the wrong thing >_>) |
| 03:28.52 | hypetech | prat or onebag? |
| 03:29.01 | Keias | Onebag |
| 03:29.08 | Keias | Unless you mean sylvanaar :P |
| 03:29.42 | hypetech | actually just updated again and looks like both of them got fixed :) |
| 03:30.38 | CIA-22 | 03earthbane * r45047 10HellbenderDKP/ (4 files): |
| 03:30.38 | CIA-22 | HellbenderDKP: |
| 03:30.38 | CIA-22 | - Fixed filenames for auto zip generation |
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| 03:36.43 | ckknight | hey all |
| 03:36.45 | Keias | Tuller, you're the author of Ludwig, correct? |
| 03:36.46 | ckknight | how's everyone doing? |
| 03:36.52 | Keias | hi ckk |
| 03:36.59 | Tuller | Keias: yeah |
| 03:37.16 | Tuller | something break? :) |
| 03:37.27 | Keias | Did you replace Ludwig_SellValue with Sellfish? |
| 03:37.30 | Tuller | yep |
| 03:37.33 | kergoth | Cryect, ah! okay, thats cool. a hint in the tooltip about how to do it would be good :) |
| 03:37.33 | Keias | Nah, Ludwig has always been awesome |
| 03:37.35 | Keias | K, just making sure |
| 03:37.38 | kergoth | Cryect, nifty stuff |
| 03:37.40 | Keias | Been an eternity since I've updated it |
| 03:37.54 | kergoth | Cryect, hmm, no dps info? |
| 03:38.52 | CIA-22 | 03cryect * r45048 10Recount/ (GUI_Config.lua Recount.toc Sync.lua embeds.xml): |
| 03:38.52 | CIA-22 | Recount - Fixes a bug in sync code (in the case received sync messages before a version message) |
| 03:38.52 | CIA-22 | - Several extraneous code cleanups |
| 03:38.52 | CIA-22 | - Removed RangeCheck from TOC and embeds.xml |
| 03:39.19 | Cryect | kergoth: what do you mean no DPS info? |
| 03:39.36 | Cryect | in the number on the right side (DPS, Percent) |
| 03:39.39 | Cryect | on the bars |
| 03:39.50 | Cryect | I guess its actually "Amount (DPS, Percent)' |
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| 03:40.29 | Cryect | Anyways time for sleep before I add more bugs writing code half asleep |
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| 03:44.59 | mSpaz|codeum | how do i get clearfont button back on my minimap? |
| 03:45.48 | Diao | Tuller: is there a way to turn off autocomplete for item links in ludwig |
| 03:46.27 | Tuller | Diao: other than by just disabling the linkerator part, no |
| 03:46.48 | Diao | :( |
| 03:47.07 | Diao | i like the autocomplete but sometimes i'm just trying to type something and it tries to match it to an item |
| 03:47.36 | Kirkburn | mSpaz|codeum, /cf |
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| 03:52.32 | CIA-22 | 03arrowmaster * r45049 10DKPmon_eqDKP/ (DKPmon_eqDKP.toc exportmod.lua): |
| 03:52.32 | CIA-22 | DKPmon_eqDKP: |
| 03:52.32 | CIA-22 | -hacked up CTRT export so that all attendees get dectected by eqDKP's CTRT import and not just those that were in the raid |
| 03:52.32 | CIA-22 | -set Attendance Filter to Boss Kill in eqDKP's CTRT import configuration for this to work |
| 03:52.32 | CIA-22 | -Join and Leave sections of CTRT xml are nolonger accurate |
| 03:52.33 | kergoth | Cryect, oh, i'm blind. oh, i'm seeing damage done (overall) == damage done (current).. is that expected? |
| 03:52.34 | CIA-22 | -DKP value should also be detected by eqDKP's CTRT import now |
| 03:53.29 | CIA-22 | 03helium * r45050 10Babble-2.2/Babble-Spell-2.2/Babble-Spell-2.2.lua: |
| 03:53.29 | CIA-22 | Babble-2.2: |
| 03:53.29 | CIA-22 | - updated zhTW: Spell |
| 03:54.46 | CIA-22 | 03gnarfoz * r45051 10CandyBar/CandyBar-2.0/CandyBar-2.0.lua: CandyBar - 0.1 for slow updates is really quite jerky, sped up a bit again (should still serve it's purpose) |
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| 03:57.08 | mSpaz|codeum | if i was looking for addons that modifyed the profile picture bars what is that generaly under? |
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| 04:19.58 | kergoth | woot, fifth element is on |
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| 04:24.18 | NightHawkTheSane | "If it was just me, I'd agree. But what about Teal'c? Is this the face of a crazy man? *pause* ... bad example." |
| 04:25.16 | Gnarfoz | "Innnnndeeeeeeeed." |
| 04:25.47 | Gnarfoz | is sg-1 still on somewhere? thought the US airing would have also finished by now |
| 04:26.32 | NightHawkTheSane | uh, i think its finishe3d |
| 04:26.38 | NightHawkTheSane | i'm watching season 4, though |
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| 04:27.59 | Gnarfoz | yeah, wasn't quite sure where to place that quote, chronologically |
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| 04:29.01 | NightHawkTheSane | yeah, it's pretty out of context. :P it's from 406 - Windows of Opportunity, though |
| 04:30.33 | Gnarfoz | ah great one |
| 04:30.46 | Gnarfoz | it's the one where they're stuck in the time-loop, right? :D |
| 04:30.56 | NightHawkTheSane | yep |
| 04:32.03 | Antiarc | Window of Opportunity is my favorite episode ever. |
| 04:32.25 | NightHawkTheSane | i don't know if i'd call it my favorite, but it is quite good |
| 04:33.03 | Killmore7 | [2007/07/28 00:31:37-364-x1]: Recount-$Revision: 45030 $\Tracker.lua:721: Babble-Spell-2.2: Reverse translation for "Melee" does not exist |
| 04:33.03 | Killmore7 | ParserLib\ParserLib-1.1\ParserLib.lua:457: in function <...terface\AddOns\ParserLib\ParserLib-1.1\ParserLib.lua:457> |
| 04:35.03 | Cryect | <kergoth> Cryect, oh, i'm blind. oh, i'm seeing damage done (overall) == damage done (current).. is that expected? |
| 04:35.09 | Cryect | Depends but normally no |
| 04:35.33 | Cryect | Killmore7 thanks |
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| 04:41.10 | NightHawkTheSane | I love the golfing through the stargate part. |
| 04:41.26 | kergoth | Cryect, k, well in this sv run, thats what its doing. i'm seeing "last fight" as showing nothing, and current == overall |
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| 04:43.31 | Cryect | checking it out |
| 04:45.15 | Cryect | hmmm something is broken |
| 04:45.19 | Cryect | shouldn't be doing this |
| 04:48.51 | Keias | haste, do you still have a page of your Addons? |
| 04:48.59 | Keias | fuxsake doesn't seem to be working any longer :( |
| 04:51.49 | Cryect | kergoth, found the bug |
| 04:52.00 | Cryect | stuck something in the wrong place |
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| 04:52.35 | Cryect | maybe I didn't |
| 04:57.21 | Cryect | kergoth, I'll fix it in the morning too tired to debug thatright now >_< |
| 05:03.33 | CIA-22 | 03cryect * r45052 10Recount/ (GUI_Main.lua Recount.lua Sync.lua Tracker.lua): |
| 05:03.33 | CIA-22 | Recount - Fixes bug attempting to translate melee |
| 05:03.33 | CIA-22 | - Warning there is a bug involving not tracking fights correctly (related to not finding someone you are fighting to label a fight with) |
| 05:06.35 | Gngsk | Cryect, weren't you going to sleep? |
| 05:08.02 | Gngsk | Guess he did, good for him! |
| 05:08.49 | jme | Position in queue: 839 |
| 05:08.52 | jme | :X |
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| 05:17.07 | kebinusan | anyone ever have something weird happen where your character seems to be stuck walking backwards till you hit a key |
| 05:17.30 | kergoth | Cryect, no worries, thanks for looking into it |
| 05:18.33 | earthbane | Howdy all, is there a doc somewhere that covers making a FuBar addon? One that hopefully survived the site crash or has been recovered |
| 05:22.36 | CIA-22 | 03diablohu * r45053 10Fence/ (Core.lua Fence.toc): |
| 05:22.36 | CIA-22 | Fence: |
| 05:22.36 | CIA-22 | - added zhCN by Taburiss |
| 05:23.13 | Gngsk | kebinusan, yeah recent patch introduced a bug where you can get stuck walking both ways. there's someone in my guild who can reproduce it but I haven't asked how |
| 05:25.11 | CIA-22 | 03cryect * r45054 10Recount/ (Recount.lua Tracker.lua): Recount - Fixes bug with not changing fights |
| 05:25.16 | Cryect | Couldn't sleep :-p |
| 05:25.24 | Cryect | had an idea what might be causing it |
| 05:25.37 | Cryect | was wrong but debugged in the right direction |
| 05:25.40 | Veight | kebinusan, I manage to do that all the time on my priest, get bored while healing so i jump around |
| 05:25.51 | Cryect | now back to bed |
| 05:27.45 | Gngsk | dream of graphs and stuff |
| 05:28.15 | NeoTron | hmm. recount feeling sad :( |
| 05:29.52 | CIA-22 | 03kemayo * r45055 10Quixote/Quixote-1.0/Quixote-1.0.lua: Quixote: Hook up Quest_Complete to comms. Fire Leaderboard_Update as well as Quest_Complete on the final update. |
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| 05:37.36 | CIA-22 | 03vincent * r45056 10WeaponRebuff/ (4 files): |
| 05:37.36 | CIA-22 | WeaponRebuff: |
| 05:37.36 | CIA-22 | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:56.21 | Keias | ckknight, is there an option in pitbull to reset powerbar colors? |
| 05:58.19 | Chaoslux | btw guys, how do we get this SVN-to-IRC bot known as CIA22 ? |
| 05:59.43 | durcyn | http://cia.navi.cx |
| 06:00.02 | CIA-22 | 03zuno * r45057 10UnitActionBars/FrameGroupPitBull/uab_PitBullFrames.lua: (log message trimmed) |
| 06:00.02 | CIA-22 | UnitActionBars: |
| 06:00.02 | CIA-22 | - Another modification to make sure that the UAB control buttons are properly |
| 06:00.02 | CIA-22 | anchored to the unit frames. As PitBull constantly re-parents the child frames |
| 06:00.02 | CIA-22 | to new parents, UAB has to re-associate the controls to the new parents |
| 06:00.03 | CIA-22 | properly. PitBull has not been informing the PitBull modules of all the |
| 06:00.07 | CIA-22 | association changes that occur, and hence UAB has not been keeping up. This |
| 06:02.46 | CIA-22 | 03zuno * r45058 10UnitActionBars/FrameGroupPitBull/uab_PitBullFrames.lua: |
| 06:02.46 | CIA-22 | UnitActionBars: |
| 06:02.46 | CIA-22 | - Removed some commented code. |
| 06:10.19 | ckknight | Keias: mmm... not really |
| 06:10.31 | ckknight | Keias: been wondering about adding a reset thing to AceOptions |
| 06:10.46 | ckknight | Keias: but I'm thinking I'll be working on Joker for a little while |
| 06:10.54 | Keias | Seems like a massive project |
| 06:10.59 | Keias | So it's understandable |
| 06:11.10 | Keias | Joker, I mean :P |
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| 06:43.01 | loonacy | What's the best way to find out of someone has left or joined the group? |
| 06:46.08 | [Ammo] | there's 2 ways |
| 06:46.30 | [Ammo] | 1 watch all groupmember events and check the party or raid everytime it changes to see ifsomeone left or joined |
| 06:46.42 | [Ammo] | 2. use rosterlib and watch its events |
| 06:47.05 | [Ammo] | the system messages from WoW are not good enough for party |
| 06:47.10 | [Ammo] | they work fairly well for raids |
| 06:47.52 | loonacy | I didn't know rosterlib did parties, too... I'll look into that. |
| 06:49.28 | loonacy | Oh wait, I was thinking of RollCall. |
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| 06:58.54 | xlvii | lol |
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| 07:02.05 | fireglow | pitbull issue: anyone has the problem that, although range check is off, the party frame fades? |
| 07:02.54 | fireglow | hold on, it might have been combat fading |
| 07:04.30 | haste | Keias: atm. only gcode and wowi, other site is being transfered to another server |
| 07:04.50 | Keias | ok, thanks |
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| 07:15.40 | Antiar1 | Every time I try to post on the WoW forums I get "Invalid access" |
| 07:20.43 | Silviu- | ping Thrae |
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| 07:32.59 | ckknight | hey all |
| 07:35.54 | Gngsk | howdy |
| 07:38.04 | NightHawkTheSane | haha.. " would imagine that sitting in a Friendly's in Cleveland would be the low point of the average human's life." |
| 07:38.07 | NightHawkTheSane | er, "I would..." |
| 07:38.13 | Diao | ok wtf |
| 07:38.20 | Diao | why does omen reset to the middle of the screen every time i logout :( |
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| 07:38.31 | Diao | i tried deleting savedvars and reinstalling it and it keeps doing it |
| 07:38.32 | Trisorion | hey |
| 07:38.45 | CIA-22 | 03hegarol * r45060 10AtlasLoot_RepFactions/rep.lua: |
| 07:38.45 | CIA-22 | AtlasLoot_RepFactions: |
| 07:38.45 | CIA-22 | - Missing IDs |
| 07:38.56 | Trisorion | What program do you use to play the sound files from wow |
| 07:40.03 | Trisorion | I had a mod (not really a mod) that put a file is your data folder that changed the sound of a fish biting when you are fishing, im trying to figure out if I could do that for pally buble and stuff |
| 07:40.43 | KriLL3 | Trisorion: that sounds like changing game files... |
| 07:40.48 | Trisorion | it isent |
| 07:41.19 | ckknight | hrm: http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=7654.msg125263;boardseen |
| 07:41.26 | Trisorion | blizzard lets you put your own sound files in, you dont need to change anything you just make a sound folder |
| 07:43.30 | fireglow | gogo ckknight -.- |
| 07:43.37 | ckknight | I'm contemplating it |
| 07:43.50 | ckknight | I don't have a college degree |
| 07:43.53 | ckknight | wonder if they care. |
| 07:44.33 | ckknight | and I don't have a resume drawn up |
| 07:45.29 | KriLL3 | get one |
| 07:45.37 | ckknight | one what? |
| 07:45.39 | NightHawkTheSane | resume's are easy to write up. As for how much they care about degree? *shrug* probably not a whole lot |
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| 07:45.45 | KriLL3 | resume, you dolt. |
| 07:45.57 | Gngsk | I totally made fubar, cartographer, pitbull cowtip, parrot and dogchow! |
| 07:46.00 | Gngsk | best resume ever! |
| 07:46.06 | Jagobah | dogchow! |
| 07:46.11 | ckknight | and most of Ace2 as well as a shitload of libraries |
| 07:46.19 | Gngsk | nobody cares about those! |
| 07:46.25 | ckknight | oh and Ace3 :-P |
| 07:46.26 | Gngsk | well, I suppose they would, eh? |
| 07:46.27 | ckknight | but hush hush |
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| 07:46.41 | ckknight | it's a secret |
| 07:46.54 | Gngsk | not anymore |
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| 07:47.10 | NightHawkTheSane | to be honest, your code portfolio wrt wow is fairly robust, so they'd probably overlook a college degree. Most companies care about your actual ability, not what a slip of paper says about your actual ability. |
| 07:47.25 | ckknight | NightHawkTheSane: I have to transfer schools cause I ran out of classes. |
| 07:47.33 | ckknight | :-P |
| 07:47.38 | ckknight | I's too smart |
| 07:47.54 | NightHawkTheSane | I'm just saying. :P |
| 07:48.03 | ckknight | yea |
| 07:48.06 | Gngsk | austin, texas |
| 07:48.11 | Gngsk | you do have a pretty decent southern accent! |
| 07:48.13 | ckknight | I don't mind Texas in theory |
| 07:48.16 | Gngsk | you'd fit right in |
| 07:48.20 | ckknight | I talk like a Midwesterner |
| 07:48.30 | Gngsk | I'm talking about that youtube video you made a while back |
| 07:48.32 | Trisorion | but then wow mods will all die |
| 07:48.33 | ckknight | my southern accent is a fake |
| 07:48.35 | Gngsk | the one where you're wearing the cowboy hat |
| 07:48.39 | NightHawkTheSane | meh, if the job was good and the pay was worth it, i'd work anywhere. *shrug* |
| 07:48.47 | ckknight | NightHawkTheSane: I suppose you |
| 07:48.50 | ckknight | 're right |
| 07:49.00 | ckknight | I'll work up a resume and figure out what they'd be willing to pay |
| 07:50.08 | ckknight | Trisorion: they won't die, I use wowace as a place to offer me power, I don't feel like losing that feeling |
| 07:50.34 | ckknight | also, if I do somehow fade away, my mods are openly licensed and I'd hope someone competent could take em over |
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| 07:52.50 | KriLL3 | fade away aka run over? |
| 07:53.22 | ckknight | KriLL3: no, I'll live forever |
| 07:53.29 | KriLL3 | ckknight: you mean 20 different forks all one version only and all horribly manged code? |
| 07:53.33 | ckknight | I mean if I get tired of wow and wowace in general |
| 07:53.59 | ckknight | the idea is that I'll dictate one person on a mod-by-mod basis to take over |
| 07:54.29 | ckknight | as far as my mood goes now, if I somehow fade away and don't tell anyone, I'll leave the responsibility to Antiarc |
| 07:54.51 | KriLL3 | I love <random guys nick>'s<addon> versions :) |
| 07:55.35 | ckknight | ? |
| 07:56.25 | Gngsk | yeah, that guy Fan. he must be really busy |
| 07:56.30 | Gngsk | I see his updates of old mods all the time! |
| 07:56.40 | ckknight | lol |
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| 08:11.54 | kebinusan | so someone in our guild got their account hacked, we got the guy in guild talking to him and stuff |
| 08:11.58 | kebinusan | its moderately funny |
| 08:13.31 | fireglow | so, what is he saying |
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| 08:15.11 | Bejitt | anyone know the name of the template used here: http://web.archive.org/web/20070319233853/www.wowace.com/wiki/FuBar_LootTyFu |
| 08:15.22 | Bejitt | template list wasnt archived >_< |
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| 08:17.00 | RogueShadow | kebinusan: Perhaps you could get him to spill his main account? |
| 08:24.46 | etip | !SetFont() |
| 08:25.09 | etip | !api SetFont() |
| 08:25.10 | ThraeBot | etip: Could not find a relevant page. Perhaps you could be so kind as to create one? http://www.wowwiki.com/API_SetFont() |
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| 08:32.44 | Trisorion | is there a way to play the sound files from wow |
| 08:32.49 | Trisorion | like a model viewer of sounds |
| 08:34.13 | Diao | hmm |
| 08:34.16 | Diao | ping ckknight |
| 08:34.25 | ckknight | pong |
| 08:34.48 | Diao | parrot isn't showing mana gains from blessing of wisdom for me o_O |
| 08:35.19 | Antiar1 | That's because it doesn't show in the combat log. |
| 08:35.21 | Diao | spiritual attunement works fine though |
| 08:35.29 | Diao | It doesn't? |
| 08:35.33 | Diao | it used to iirc |
| 08:35.33 | Antiarc | BoW is a silent/passive mana gain |
| 08:35.37 | Antiarc | Changed several patches back |
| 08:35.41 | Diao | oh |
| 08:35.48 | Diao | I haven't played a paladin since then lol |
| 08:35.51 | Diao | Just started an alt one now |
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| 08:36.21 | Diao | never mind then |
| 08:36.27 | Trisorion | antiarc wanna start a new mod? |
| 08:36.37 | Gngsk | what kinda new mod? |
| 08:36.55 | Antiarc | Trisorion: Not particularly, but what kind? |
| 08:36.57 | Trisorion | http://downloads.curse.com/details/4119/ |
| 08:37.02 | Trisorion | its a piece of crap |
| 08:37.05 | Trisorion | but a good idea |
| 08:37.36 | Antiarc | Not really inspired to, no |
| 08:37.41 | Antiarc | It'd be a good chance to learn though ;) |
| 08:37.46 | Antiarc | Not very complex |
| 08:38.29 | Trisorion | ill put that on a suggestion forum or something |
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| 08:44.26 | Wobin | !api SetFont |
| 08:44.26 | ThraeBot | Wobin: Could not find a relevant page. Perhaps you could be so kind as to create one? http://www.wowwiki.com/API_SetFont |
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| 08:51.56 | Trisorion | Antiarc: When you say that mod would be simple, is it simple for you or could I figure it out in a week |
| 08:52.06 | Antiarc | How much programming experience do you have? |
| 08:52.40 | Trisorion | none |
| 08:52.42 | Trisorion | at all |
| 08:52.52 | Antiarc | Night be a bit problematic then ;) |
| 08:53.01 | Antiarc | Regardless, it wouldn't be difficult. |
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| 08:54.07 | Trisorion | ok well i start tommorow |
| 08:54.12 | Trisorion | cya everyone |
| 08:54.36 | Antiarc | ckknight: There's still some kind of problem with the library upgrades in Threat, still related to TailoredBinaryCheckSum, I think |
| 08:55.15 | Antiarc | Steps to reproduce: Install Omen with externals, install Threat-1.0 standalone, manually increase a revision number in the Omen copy of Threat to 50000, enter combat and observe |
| 08:55.32 | Antiarc | I'm going through it ATM, but I'm just not even sure what I'm looking at without digging through AceLibrary's internals |
| 08:56.49 | Silviu- | Antiarc u will have to write again when he is back ;p |
| 08:56.57 | Antiarc | So I think. |
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| 08:57.56 | CIA-22 | 03nickenyfiken * r45061 10FuBar_TrainerFu/modules/TrainerNotes.lua: FuBar_TrainerFu: Trainer Notes: Fixed class trainer note not being selected with auto filter. |
| 08:58.17 | Antiarc | Heh, I solved it. |
| 08:58.21 | Antiarc | Errant reference. |
| 09:01.09 | CIA-22 | 03antiarc * r45062 10Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0/ (3 files): |
| 09:01.09 | CIA-22 | Threat-1.0: |
| 09:01.09 | CIA-22 | - Added explicit publishes after threat clears to prevent problems with lists lagging |
| 09:01.09 | CIA-22 | - Fixed detection of the -threat meta gem |
| 09:01.09 | CIA-22 | - Fixed a problem that was impeding library upgrades (last major bugfix before RC1?) |
| 09:01.25 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r45063 10Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0/ (ThreatKLHTMSupport.lua ThreatMobNameTranslation.lua): Threat-1.0 - fix issue with TailoredBinaryCheckSum. |
| 09:01.26 | ckknight | aw dang |
| 09:01.28 | ckknight | I was about to fix it |
| 09:01.30 | ckknight | oh, okay |
| 09:01.31 | ckknight | there |
| 09:01.32 | Antiarc | Hah |
| 09:01.34 | ckknight | fixed. |
| 09:01.58 | Antiarc | Your fix is different from mine |
| 09:02.06 | Antiarc | I think mine was the real culprit, but I'll test yours too! |
| 09:02.26 | ckknight | no, mine was the issue. |
| 09:02.29 | ckknight | I know it is. |
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| 09:02.47 | Antiarc | alrighty, let's see! |
| 09:03.29 | Antiarc | I'm getting doubled debug messages now. |
| 09:03.47 | Antiarc | But only some. Hm. |
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| 09:11.25 | Antiarc | Threat-1.0\Threat-1.0\ThreatKLHTMSupport.lua:241: attempt to index field 'TailoredBinaryCheckSum' (a nil value) |
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| 09:14.58 | ckknight | bah |
| 09:16.19 | Fisker- | http://developersdevelopersdevelopers.dk/ihateyou.JPG <-oh thanks a lot |
| 09:17.33 | NeoTron | Cryect: recount has been real messed up toda |
| 09:17.40 | NeoTron | so far I've recorded 35k errors. :P |
| 09:18.13 | Antiarc | ckknight: It works when I comment out your changes. |
| 09:18.35 | ckknight | *shrug* |
| 09:19.41 | CIA-22 | 03arrowmaster * r45064 10Omen/Omen.toc: Omen: remove LoadManager usage from toc since Omen has bugs when loaded LoD but no matter how many times I tell Antiarc he still hasn't removed the LoadManager from the toc |
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| 09:20.02 | Fisker- | DOMESTIC TERRORIST |
| 09:20.27 | Silviu- | hah |
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| 09:32.06 | CIA-22 | 03antiarc * r45065 10Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0/ (3 files): Threat-1.0: Fixes to lib upgrade issue, reset TPS on threat wipe. |
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| 09:33.18 | Laric | is there a good way to add buttons to itemtooltips? |
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| 09:38.16 | ckknight | buttons? |
| 09:41.45 | Fisker- | man quad core prices just fell through the floor here |
| 09:41.56 | Xuerian | Is my text garbled... >_> |
| 09:42.18 | Fisker- | no |
| 09:43.08 | Silviu- | Xuerian can u read priv message ? ;) |
| 09:43.13 | Silviu- | Or u see it as i saw when u write |
| 09:43.15 | Xuerian | Good. >_> |
| 09:43.18 | Silviu- | [12:42:53] <F'Xuerian> 潓瑲景 |
| 09:43.20 | Silviu- | ;)) |
| 09:43.32 | CIA-22 | 03antiarc * r45066 10/tags/ (Omen/ Threat-1.0/): Add tag direcotires for Threat-1.0 and Omen |
| 09:43.40 | Silviu- | [12:44:47] <F'Xuerian> 潎â´ç•³æ•²æ„ 潢瑵ç æ•¨æ˜ ç‰¯æ…tá„‘á„‘à¨á€á€Šà¤Üˆ |
| 09:43.40 | Silviu- | [12:44:50] <F'Xuerian> 潄ç£çœ 敨敲?瑵ç æ•¨æ˜ ç‰¯æ…tá„‘á„‘à¨á€á€Šà¤Üˆ |
| 09:43.43 | Silviu- | Write here pls |
| 09:43.44 | Silviu- | ;)) |
| 09:43.49 | Silviu- | I can`t see a damn thing |
| 09:43.49 | Silviu- | ;p |
| 09:43.52 | Xuerian | Point me at the documentation for it |
| 09:44.00 | Silviu- | One sec ;) |
| 09:44.06 | CIA-22 | 03antiarc 071.0-RC1 * r45067 10Omen/: Omen: Create RC1 tag |
| 09:44.42 | CIA-22 | 03antiarc 071.0-RC1 * r45068 10Threat-1.0/: Threat-1.0: Create RC1 tag |
| 09:46.20 | Silviu- | Xuerian http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=5542.0 |
| 09:46.23 | Fisker- | http://gizmodo.com/gadgets/more-than-meets-the-eye/kameraflage-images-only-visible-through-a-digital-camera-282689.php <-lol |
| 09:46.39 | Fisker- | But there's a iphone in the picture instead of a digital camera :( |
| 09:47.37 | Arrowmaster | good thing i got that commit in before the rc1 tag |
| 09:47.50 | Silviu- | ;) |
| 09:48.00 | Silviu- | Antiarc why are u tagging them ? |
| 09:48.07 | Antiarc | RC1! |
| 09:48.40 | Silviu- | For the new Wau2 ? |
| 09:48.41 | Silviu- | Or ? |
| 09:48.50 | Antiarc | No, tags are "bookmarks" in a repository |
| 09:49.01 | Silviu- | Okay |
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| 10:03.25 | loonacy | If I wanted to type a variable into an editbox and get the value of that variable, how would I do that? i.e. I type in the editbox MyAddon.SomeVar[3] |
| 10:06.13 | loonacy | I was thinking of doing RunScript("function MyAddon:GetIt() return "..Editbox:GetText().." end") but I was hoping for something more elegant. |
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| 10:09.53 | Arrowmaster | loonacy: /print |
| 10:11.49 | loonacy | Arrowmaster: Okay, now how do I pass that value on to my script? |
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| 10:24.29 | CIA-22 | 03diablohu * r45069 10Fence/modules/ (7 files): |
| 10:24.29 | CIA-22 | Fence: |
| 10:24.29 | CIA-22 | - update zhCN |
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| 10:59.03 | CIA-22 | 03anxarces * r45070 10ProfessionsBook/ (15 files in 2 dirs): |
| 10:59.03 | CIA-22 | ProfessionsBook: initial commit |
| 10:59.03 | CIA-22 | - ProfessionsBook keeps track of all known trade items your characters can craft/enchant. You can easily select each character and browse the known recipes and view the needed reagents to craft that item. |
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| 11:21.06 | Ixan | were does prat store it's configuration for "default"? |
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| 11:24.29 | CIA-22 | 03anxarces * r45071 10ProfessionsBook/: |
| 11:24.29 | CIA-22 | ProfessionsBook: |
| 11:24.29 | CIA-22 | - added externals |
| 11:24.36 | evl | What's this professionsbook? :) |
| 11:24.44 | evl | - ProfessionsBook keeps track of all known trade items your characters can craft/enchant. You can easily select each character and browse the known recipes and view the needed reagents to craft that item. |
| 11:24.45 | evl | nvm |
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| 11:27.05 | Neebler | NORWEGIAN BLACK METAL |
| 11:27.52 | evl | you are correct, it has to be said in caps |
| 11:27.58 | evl | or it isn't truly NORWEGIAN BLACK METAL |
| 11:28.17 | KriLL3 | Is it really really expensive? |
| 11:28.27 | KriLL3 | Like everything else Norwegian? |
| 11:28.58 | CIA-22 | 03somerset * r45072 10BuffCheck/ (6 files): |
| 11:28.58 | CIA-22 | BuffCheck |
| 11:28.58 | CIA-22 | - version 0.2 |
| 11:28.58 | CIA-22 | - initial import |
| 11:38.07 | Fisker- | http://img.4chan.org/b/src/1185621133572.jpg <-lol |
| 11:40.00 | Gngsk | ghey |
| 11:42.01 | CIA-22 | 03somerset * r45073 10BuffCheck/BuffCheck.toc: |
| 11:42.01 | CIA-22 | BuffCheck |
| 11:42.01 | CIA-22 | - added version-number to .toc |
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| 12:02.13 | KriLL3 | is there a WAU icon somewhere that's larger than 32x32? |
| 12:02.16 | KriLL3 | why does apps & games on windows usually only come with 32x32 icons? most ppl use larger res than that and quite a lot of ppl use app launchers with even bigger res... |
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| 12:03.42 | CIA-22 | 03anxarces * r45074 10FuBar_ProfessionsFu/ (8 files): |
| 12:03.42 | CIA-22 | FuBar_ProfessionsFu: initial release |
| 12:03.42 | CIA-22 | - This plugin adds professions to a FuBar menu. It gives an overview of the |
| 12:03.42 | CIA-22 | skill level of each profession. Each profession entry in the menu can be clicked |
| 12:03.42 | CIA-22 | to open the corresponding profession window. Professions, wich result directly |
| 12:03.43 | CIA-22 | in an activity and don't open a professions window (e.g. skinning) are not added |
| 12:03.47 | CIA-22 | to the menu. |
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| 12:29.02 | mitch0 | what plus does professionsFu give over skillsplusfu? |
| 12:32.28 | CIA-22 | 03anxarces * r45075 10ProfessionsBook/: |
| 12:32.28 | CIA-22 | ProfessionsBook: |
| 12:32.28 | CIA-22 | - modified externals |
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| 12:35.45 | CIA-22 | 03anxarces * r45076 10FuBar_ProfessionsFu/: |
| 12:35.45 | CIA-22 | FuBar_ProfessionsFu: |
| 12:35.45 | CIA-22 | - added externals |
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| 12:40.11 | CIA-22 | 03andalia * r45077 10BattleChat/ (6 files in 2 dirs): |
| 12:40.12 | CIA-22 | BattleChat: |
| 12:40.12 | CIA-22 | - Added waterfall config |
| 12:40.12 | CIA-22 | - Some minor fixes |
| 12:40.12 | CIA-22 | - Some minor speed improvements (at least I hope) |
| 12:42.02 | KriLL3 | longer name, thus better. |
| 12:43.05 | mitch0 | oh :) |
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| 13:00.14 | trh | hidiho |
| 13:12.49 | Fisker- | http://img.4chan.org/b/src/1185626169266.jpg <-best shoop EVER |
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| 13:17.53 | CIA-22 | 03andalia * r45078 10BattleChat/BattleChat.lua: BattleChat: - Fixed a bug with scrolling |
| 13:24.56 | Health | So.. what's up with WAU putting all modules in seperate direcotires? |
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| 13:26.46 | Gngsk | load on demand |
| 13:32.42 | MikkZzz | Health: If you absolutely detest it, you CAN disable it in the options. But, really, it is a good idea to keep it that way. |
| 13:34.50 | Health | Yeah, I have it that way now. :) |
| 13:36.01 | Amadeo | what Seal do Retnoob Paladins use? :) |
| 13:36.33 | Mikk | do those exist stil? o.O |
| 13:37.32 | ag` | what's battlechat? |
| 13:37.43 | Amadeo | Mikk: On PTR :P |
| 13:37.55 | ag` | what about SotC? |
| 13:38.03 | ag` | for more holy damage, dunno |
| 13:38.12 | Amadeo | yeah I was thinking that |
| 13:38.19 | Amadeo | but I'm clueless about Paladins, just screwing around |
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| 13:38.52 | Amadeo | but there's also Seal of Command |
| 13:41.52 | Amadeo | probably SotC though |
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| 13:45.14 | siIentium | retri paladins with slow 2H usually use Seal of Command, paladins with faster weapons or less physical stats and more spell damage probably use Seal of Righteousness |
| 13:45.25 | Amadeo | I see |
| 13:45.56 | siIentium | no idea if/when belfadins use Seal of Blood tho |
| 13:46.09 | Amadeo | Since when did the Bloodmoon do more top end damage than the Deep Thunder? |
| 13:48.11 | Amadeo | Skyshatter looks really sexy on Shamans |
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| 14:03.18 | Amadeo | yeah |
| 14:03.21 | Amadeo | Ret Paladins are worthless |
| 14:03.21 | Amadeo | lol |
| 14:04.06 | rophy | anyone know how to check which editbox has the current input focus? |
| 14:04.43 | rophy | why i cannot find an API for such a simple thing... |
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| 14:12.59 | Amadeo | that's what I love about PTR, you can tell what works and what doesn't about a class before you waste the time and money into it |
| 14:13.51 | Amadeo | Ret can't stand up to anyone in this kind of gear, maybe with lesser |
| 14:13.56 | Amadeo | but healing is a ton of fun |
| 14:13.59 | Amadeo | I should try Prot next |
| 14:18.33 | CIA-22 | 03cryect * r45079 10Recount/Sync.lua: Recount - Sync bug fix for removed code |
| 14:18.36 | Neebler | rophy! I have a request for SUF, could you make them moveable by option please? So I wont need a move-anything type addon |
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| 14:19.15 | Neebler | just recently deleted all of my addons and am now only using 2: SUF and a bar addon, because what else is needed? :P |
| 14:20.26 | rophy | Neebler: um..... i'm not sure if that is needed when there are so many move mods. |
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| 14:30.04 | Chompers | Recount-$Revision: 45054 $\Tracker.lua:722: Babble-Spell-2.2: Reverse translation for "Pulverize" does not exist |
| 14:33.41 | Cryect | Yeah I just added and testing code to see if translations exist first |
| 14:33.54 | Cryect | I should make a log of them somewhere so people can add them to babblespell I guess |
| 14:35.07 | CIA-22 | 03cryect * r45080 10Recount/ (Sync.lua Tracker.lua): Recount - Now checks for translations before using them (needs to add a log of spells needing translations though) |
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| 14:37.03 | CIA-22 | 03cryect * r45081 10Recount/Sync.lua: Recount - Forgot to add the code for initializing the version table and remembering in the future to not use $ svn keyword $ in future patterns |
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| 14:42.21 | ag` | Neebler, unit frames |
| 14:42.51 | Chompers | Cryect: you probably know the issue already, but: |
| 14:42.53 | Chompers | x1544]: Recount-$Revision: 45054 $\Sync.lua:105: attempt to call field 'CanSendFor' (a nil value |
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| 14:50.11 | CIA-22 | 03cryect * r45082 10Recount/Sync.lua: Recount - Forgot to convert string to number |
| 14:50.34 | Cryect | that was fixed in 45079 |
| 14:50.35 | Cryect | :-p |
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| 14:51.28 | Cryect | alright think I have all the bugs fixed that I wrote last night half asleep, now to convert to Parser-3.0 |
| 14:52.29 | Fisker- | trial accounts can't use /say right |
| 14:52.30 | Fisker- | ? |
| 14:52.56 | Health | Anyone know what tag it is for target in Parrot? I can't get [Target] to get parsed.. what is it? ;p |
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| 15:00.36 | charon | Health: isn't it [Name]? |
| 15:00.39 | Wobin | It's weird |
| 15:00.43 | Health | Oh, Thanks. |
| 15:00.46 | Wobin | Why can't I get the fubar plugin for baggins up? |
| 15:01.01 | charon | Health: my setting (probably default) for outgoing heals is +[Amount] ([Skill] - [Name]) |
| 15:01.23 | Health | Testing with Name now :) |
| 15:01.29 | charon | i have a question of my own however -- can i teach parrot to display debuffs again when they stack up? |
| 15:01.44 | charon | say, "Sunder Armor (3)" |
| 15:03.03 | kebinusan | If you have bigwigs message set to display in MSBT is there an option somewhere to specify that BW messages should be sticky? |
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| 15:06.09 | Amadeo | ok, Protection rocks as a Paladin also :) |
| 15:07.42 | Industrial | I made this warrior spec.. sec |
| 15:08.18 | ag` | Mmmm... What's parrot? |
| 15:08.32 | kebinusan | its a scrolling combat text thingo ckk did |
| 15:08.38 | ag` | ok |
| 15:08.53 | Industrial | crap i pressed reset |
| 15:08.55 | Industrial | another sec |
| 15:08.59 | kebinusan | I think he said it has feature parity with msbt and sct |
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| 15:09.46 | Industrial | http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=TVMedh0qMhzfZZfVds0hzb |
| 15:09.54 | Industrial | isnt this teh shizzle for pvp? |
| 15:10.09 | Industrial | whos gunna hit you if they cant wield a weapon |
| 15:10.32 | Industrial | stun disarm interrupt and stun some more |
| 15:11.01 | [dRaCo] | imp shield bash as ms warrior? |
| 15:11.29 | Industrial | yes, and disarm and concussion blow |
| 15:11.38 | Industrial | and imp mace |
| 15:11.40 | Industrial | for stun |
| 15:12.01 | [dRaCo] | lots of stance swapping... |
| 15:12.01 | Industrial | you can MS in DEF stance anyway |
| 15:12.07 | Industrial | no, just def stance |
| 15:12.12 | Industrial | amybe battle for overpower |
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| 15:14.13 | [dRaCo] | dunno, looks weird... maybe weird enough to be a lotta fun |
| 15:14.32 | Industrial | I like playing different |
| 15:15.01 | Industrial | I havent actually tested it though |
| 15:15.29 | [dRaCo] | your ms is gonna suck, though... slowest 1h mace I can think of is that gladiator thingy with 2.6 |
| 15:15.52 | [dRaCo] | well, there are better ones in BT, but... |
| 15:16.28 | Chompers | Industrial: why do you have imp MS ? |
| 15:16.35 | Chompers | it's a waste of 3 points |
| 15:17.08 | Megalon | imp one-hand would give you +6% overall dmg |
| 15:18.14 | Wobin | recount error = |
| 15:18.15 | Wobin | \ |
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| 15:21.58 | Industrial | http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=LVMe0hbqMhzZZfVps0hzbL |
| 15:22.34 | Industrial | I figured Anger Management isnt aall that great anyway, and why change to battle stance just to overpower |
| 15:23.30 | Industrial | so Impale 2/2, more Toughness and 1h specialization |
| 15:26.14 | QuantumDelta | uhm industrial |
| 15:26.25 | QuantumDelta | what's that spec for x_X |
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| 15:26.49 | Industrial | pvp, immobilizing |
| 15:27.27 | QuantumDelta | well now it makes a little bit more sense |
| 15:27.30 | QuantumDelta | *goes to tinker* |
| 15:27.41 | Industrial | :) |
| 15:28.12 | Industrial | Its just theory though - I cant test it because I dont play wow atm. |
| 15:28.46 | CIA-22 | 03broliant * r45083 10/ (27 files in 13 dirs): FubarRecountFu - Initial Commit. |
| 15:29.19 | QuantumDelta | http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=pVMe0hbqMhzbZZfVps0hzb |
| 15:29.21 | QuantumDelta | two points spare :P |
| 15:29.37 | Silviu- | broliant wrong commit ;) |
| 15:29.46 | Silviu- | U must make it in trunk or so ;) |
| 15:30.07 | Neebler | so apparently when you get castrated your sexual desires dont really go away |
| 15:30.11 | Neebler | oops wrong channel |
| 15:30.13 | QuantumDelta | which i'd probably put in cruelty or anger management |
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| 15:30.52 | Industrial | doh |
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| 15:31.59 | QuantumDelta | infact |
| 15:32.12 | QuantumDelta | you could strip 3 points outta toughness if you really wanted |
| 15:32.30 | QuantumDelta | my point, anyway |
| 15:32.33 | Industrial | I have 2 in there to fill a gap |
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| 15:32.51 | QuantumDelta | your build is /quite/ rage intensive if it's doing it's job properly |
| 15:33.34 | Neebler | http://www.gearlog.com/2007/06/att_quietly_launches_10_dsl.php |
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| 15:34.33 | QuantumDelta | 2 even* |
| 15:34.34 | QuantumDelta | sorry |
| 15:34.35 | QuantumDelta | :P |
| 15:34.51 | QuantumDelta | http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=TVMe0hbqMhzbZZfVds0hzb Industrial |
| 15:35.13 | CIA-22 | 03broliant * r45084 10/ (5 files in 2 dirs): Removed file/folder - User error |
| 15:37.16 | CIA-22 | 03fin * r45085 10Prat/Prat_Modules/modules/Alias.lua: Prat: Alias.lua: stopped space appearing at the end of inline commands when unaliased |
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| 15:37.19 | cncfanatics | Hello all |
| 15:37.30 | QuantumDelta | *waves at evolve* |
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| 15:39.24 | Industrial | QuantumDelta: sorry helping my dad install some stuff at the same time : |
| 15:39.25 | Industrial | :p |
| 15:39.29 | QuantumDelta | np |
| 15:39.34 | QuantumDelta | who's your arena partner(s) btw? |
| 15:39.35 | *** mode/#wowace [+v Shirik] by ChanServ |
| 15:40.12 | Industrial | I dont play wow right now |
| 15:40.56 | CIA-22 | 03cncfanatics * r45086 10FlexBar2/ (Core.lua FlexBar2.toc Layout/Layout.lua): FlexBar2: Added Oldschool (ala FlexBar1) slashcommand support |
| 15:41.37 | QuantumDelta | it may be worth it to use imp overpower anyway instead of imp thunderclap btw |
| 15:41.49 | CIA-22 | 03broliant * r45087 10Fubar_RecountFu/ (28 files in 13 dirs): |
| 15:41.49 | CIA-22 | Fubar_RecountFu: Initial commit. |
| 15:41.49 | CIA-22 | Provides a Fubar icon to show/hide Recount and to access the Recount command menu options. |
| 15:45.11 | Silviu- | broliant are u here ? ;) |
| 15:45.39 | QuantumDelta | not unless he's hiding on another name |
| 15:45.49 | [dRaCo] | ~seen broliat |
| 15:45.51 | purl | i haven't seen 'broliat', [dRaCo] |
| 15:45.54 | [dRaCo] | ~seen broliant |
| 15:45.55 | purl | i haven't seen 'broliant', [dRaCo] |
| 15:45.55 | [dRaCo] | ... |
| 15:46.23 | Silviu- | That is why i was asking ;) |
| 15:47.36 | ag` | how is flexbar2 coming along btw cncfanatics |
| 15:48.03 | Industrial | heeej cncfanatics |
| 15:48.07 | Industrial | :p |
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| 15:48.48 | Amadeo | what's the best way for a shaman to enhance their weapons (dual wield) in PvP? |
| 15:49.09 | [dRaCo] | wf/wf with 2 2.6 weapons |
| 15:49.17 | Amadeo | there's no penalty for it now or something? |
| 15:49.38 | [dRaCo] | nope, just the internal cooldown |
| 15:49.45 | [dRaCo] | but it still is the best you can get |
| 15:50.07 | Amadeo | I see, thank ya |
| 15:50.11 | cncfanatics | Hello ag`, Industrial |
| 15:50.14 | cncfanatics | its in coding atm |
| 15:50.18 | cncfanatics | just finished my slashcommand engine |
| 15:50.24 | cncfanatics | now I need to get to the real stuff |
| 15:50.45 | cncfanatics | wouldn't mind some help on stupid secure frame shit |
| 15:50.51 | cncfanatics | has been a while since I used it |
| 15:50.54 | ag` | hehe |
| 15:51.01 | ag` | I don't know anything about secure frames |
| 15:51.10 | Industrial | I hate that shit :p |
| 15:51.10 | cncfanatics | I don't either, but my whole addon is gonna use em :p |
| 15:51.13 | ag` | I never understood the state header thing |
| 15:51.27 | cncfanatics | same |
| 15:51.36 | ag` | someone should write an easy tutorial |
| 15:51.44 | Chompers | this FSTDT site is fantastic |
| 15:51.46 | ag` | cause the examples in the blizzard xml sucks |
| 15:51.57 | Industrial | cncfanatics: bother cogwheel lol :X |
| 15:52.04 | cncfanatics | ~seen cogwheel |
| 15:52.06 | purl | cogwheel <n=chatzill@intra.kistlerwine.com> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowi-lounge, 23h 52m 39s ago, saying: '><'. |
| 15:52.09 | cncfanatics | often onlien ? :p |
| 15:52.12 | Industrial | yes |
| 15:52.16 | cncfanatics | s/onlien/online/ |
| 15:52.25 | cncfanatics | he's gonna get spammed with tons of questions then probably |
| 15:53.06 | cncfanatics | but I first need to get started, farming herbs now |
| 15:53.07 | [dRaCo] | Amadeo: if you can't get your hands on a 2.6 (or slower) offhand, you might want to use a fast oh with frostbrand... even though the dps are significantly lower, you'll at least have the slow proc |
| 15:53.38 | cncfanatics | windfury on anything slower then ur main hand is not worth it bt |
| 15:53.42 | cncfanatics | it'll eat up the cooldown |
| 15:53.52 | cncfanatics | and a mainhand faster then 2.6 aint worth it either :p |
| 15:54.05 | [dRaCo] | anything faster than your mh, cnc |
| 15:54.13 | Amadeo | good to know |
| 15:54.27 | cncfanatics | ups ye |
| 15:54.29 | cncfanatics | typo :p |
| 15:54.53 | Amadeo | So I'm caught in between for my Paladin spec for leveling up with a Mage (low level so far, we're 10) :P |
| 15:55.01 | Amadeo | Both Protection and Holy seem nice |
| 15:55.11 | cncfanatics | my main is a pala |
| 15:55.16 | cncfanatics | and I wldnt recommend holy for leveling |
| 15:55.20 | cncfanatics | low level I'd say retri |
| 15:55.26 | cncfanatics | till u can get ur hands on holy shield and aoe grind |
| 15:55.42 | Amadeo | even duoing with a Mage? |
| 15:55.58 | [dRaCo] | sure... you tank, he kills. |
| 15:56.24 | Amadeo | I mean, Retri for leveling up even in that situation? |
| 15:56.32 | CIA-22 | 03broliant * r45088 10Fubar_ConvergeFu/ (29 files in 13 dirs): |
| 15:56.32 | CIA-22 | Fubar_ConvergeFu: Initial Commit. |
| 15:56.32 | CIA-22 | A Fubar plugin for officers of Converge (and potentially other guilds) that provides easy access to useful functions of the guild. |
| 15:56.32 | CIA-22 | Additional functions require that users will have CTRA or oRA2 installed, Deadly Bossmods and Omen (or a Threat-1.0 equivalent) in order for all the functions to operate correctly. |
| 15:56.47 | cncfanatics | Amadeo, I supose u'd want to tank |
| 15:56.53 | cncfanatics | retri works fine for low level tanking |
| 15:57.17 | Amadeo | about when should I switch to another spec? |
| 15:57.34 | cncfanatics | imo 40-50 prot rules supreme cuz of holy shield |
| 15:57.45 | Amadeo | I see |
| 15:57.51 | cncfanatics | after 50+ its debatable again cuz crusader strike is imba in 41 retri |
| 15:58.11 | Amadeo | I was just trying Retribution in PvP on PTR, I didn't like it very much |
| 15:58.30 | cncfanatics | its bursty |
| 15:58.50 | cncfanatics | but too luck based imo |
| 15:58.53 | Amadeo | everyone there has great gear, I didn't really feel competitive with anyone |
| 15:58.56 | Trancer | nice description of Fubar_ConvergeFu |
| 15:59.00 | Trancer | still doesn't say what the heck it does :/ |
| 15:59.23 | Amadeo | Trancer: Are you in that guild? lol |
| 15:59.44 | Amadeo | that would be funny |
| 16:00.11 | CIA-22 | 03roartindon * r45089 10Assessment/Modules/Damage.lua: |
| 16:00.11 | CIA-22 | Assessment |
| 16:00.11 | CIA-22 | - Reporting Damage taken hit details now shows average damage per hit type |
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| 16:00.54 | charon | Antiarc: are there known bugs in omen, e.g. with taunt? i have a mage in my party who regularly has 1.5 to 2 times my rage yet doesn't pull aggro |
| 16:00.57 | charon | and he runs omen, not ktm |
| 16:01.27 | ccKep | multiple mobs with the same name? |
| 16:01.53 | charon | no |
| 16:02.11 | ccKep | never had such problems, except if someone was using KTM |
| 16:02.14 | charon | first groups in mecha (heroic), they have mostly different names |
| 16:05.06 | charon | also happened on boss |
| 16:05.35 | charon | _might_ be a problem with another party member using ktm |
| 16:07.26 | ccKep | try disabling "publish data to ktm" and "show ktm data" |
| 16:07.29 | ccKep | maybe it helps |
| 16:07.37 | cncfanatics | why would that help ? |
| 16:07.43 | cncfanatics | it just shares more data then, doesnt alter it in any way |
| 16:07.47 | ccKep | maybe double reporting *shrug* |
| 16:07.54 | CIA-22 | 03andalia * r45090 10BattleChat/ (6 files in 2 dirs): |
| 16:07.54 | CIA-22 | BattleChat: |
| 16:07.54 | CIA-22 | - font/fontsize options (added SharedMedia) |
| 16:07.54 | CIA-22 | - further performance stuff |
| 16:07.56 | NightHawkTheSane | I think your first problem is a mage who has "1.5 to 2 times my rage" ;) |
| 16:08.13 | Trancer | Amadeo: nop :P |
| 16:08.17 | cncfanatics | aggro, rage, everyone understood him :p |
| 16:08.24 | charon | NightHawkTheSane: true... *sugh* |
| 16:08.31 | charon | (aggro obviously) |
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| 16:08.44 | charon | though he also has 0 rage which is twice what i usually have in heroics. |
| 16:08.46 | charon | dps gear ftw |
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| 16:19.09 | charon | doh. i've just noticed that in my *sigh*-about-typo, i misspelled "sigh". |
| 16:20.36 | CIA-22 | 03broliant * r45091 10Fubar_RecountFu/: Fubar_RecountFu: Removed externals which should now be provided via the svn:externals directive. |
| 16:22.18 | CIA-22 | 03broliant * r45092 10Fubar_RecountFu/libs/ (11 files in 11 dirs): Fubar_RecountFu: Removed svn:externals folders. |
| 16:26.17 | dodgizzla | http://break.com/index/56-percent-of-french-people-are-stupid.html |
| 16:26.18 | dodgizzla | ahahaha |
| 16:26.19 | CIA-22 | 03broliant * r45093 10Fubar_RecountFu/: Fubar_RecountFu: Updated svn:externals property to correct a mistake in the declaration of the FubarPlugin-2.0 library. |
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| 16:28.29 | CIA-22 | 03broliant * r45094 10Fubar_RecountFu/: Fubar_RecountFu: Updated svn:externals property to correct a mistake in the declaration of the FuBarPlugin-2.0 library. |
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| 16:30.37 | Poul|Raider | anyone know anything about frapsing, if vista have some hdd settings as default that make it go down to 2fps when frapsing? |
| 16:30.43 | CIA-22 | 03broliant * r45095 10Fubar_ConvergeFu/: Fubar_ConvergeFu: Added the svn:externals property config. |
| 16:32.00 | CIA-22 | 03broliant * r45096 10Fubar_ConvergeFu/libs/ (11 files in 11 dirs): Fubar_ConvergeFu: Removed file/folders related to svn:externals libraries. |
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| 16:32.56 | cncfanatics | whoever is broliant needs to learn to do his job |
| 16:36.23 | Lyfe | what is his job? |
| 16:36.30 | Silviu- | ;) |
| 16:36.35 | Silviu- | Spam inc ;) |
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| 16:38.55 | Mikk | And this is why it'd be so damn nice if new commiters would stick their heads into IRC >.< |
| 16:39.45 | CIA-22 | 03darkimakuni * r45097 10Visor2GUI/Visor2GUI.toc: |
| 16:39.45 | CIA-22 | Visor2GUI |
| 16:39.45 | CIA-22 | - .toc changed for 20100 |
| 16:40.30 | Lyfe | so that they would know why there's a particular way that the devs ask you to do commits? |
| 16:41.53 | CIA-22 | 03alx * r45098 10WhoLib/WhoLib-1.0/WhoLib-1.0.lua: |
| 16:41.53 | CIA-22 | WhoLib: |
| 16:41.53 | CIA-22 | - two fixes in :UserInfo() |
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| 16:43.10 | Funkeh` | hi all |
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| 16:44.33 | CIA-22 | 03darkimakuni * r45099 10Visor2/Visor2.toc: |
| 16:44.33 | CIA-22 | Visor2 |
| 16:44.33 | CIA-22 | - .toc changed for 20100 |
| 16:44.35 | durcyn | cncfanatics: svn commit access should only be granted after passing a test imo |
| 16:45.15 | cncfanatics | durcyn, thats silly |
| 16:45.34 | cncfanatics | just force it so initial commits can only be done while someone with the same name is on this channel |
| 16:45.44 | Antiarc | Morning folks |
| 16:45.51 | cncfanatics | Morning Antiarc |
| 16:46.00 | cncfanatics | ~seen nevcairiel |
| 16:46.03 | purl | nevcairiel is currently on #wowi-lounge #wowace, last said: 'ckknight: black temple isnt even in the instance drop down =P'. |
| 16:46.17 | cncfanatics | nevcairiel, ping |
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| 16:50.46 | DarkImakuni | hmm... I seem to be unable to convert Visor2, uFriends and uGuild to embeds.xml... I keep getting an error about the merge failing :( |
| 16:51.09 | durcyn | did you set svn:eol-style on embeds.xml |
| 16:51.19 | DarkImakuni | ah, good point |
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| 16:51.57 | cncfanatics | what does embeds.xml do ? |
| 16:52.06 | sylvanaar | nothing |
| 16:52.15 | durcyn | eats babies |
| 16:52.21 | CIA-22 | 03darkimakuni * r45100 10FuBar_uFriends/ (FuBar_uFriends.toc embeds.xml): |
| 16:52.21 | CIA-22 | FuBar_uFriends: |
| 16:52.21 | CIA-22 | - .toc changed to 20100 |
| 16:52.21 | CIA-22 | - Use embeds.xml |
| 16:52.30 | DarkImakuni | that's better |
| 16:52.36 | DarkImakuni | cheers durcyn :) |
| 16:52.44 | cncfanatics | durcyn, whats the use of embeds ? |
| 16:52.59 | durcyn | cncfanatics: it's a standardized place to dump lib references |
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| 16:53.04 | sylvanaar | it separates references to embedded libs in teh toc from other references |
| 16:53.18 | CIA-22 | 03prandur * r45101 10DelMapa/ (DelMapa.lua DelMapa.toc): DelMapa: New feature courtesy of Omicron@Frostwolf, zooms out mini map when zoning |
| 16:53.20 | durcyn | which first fixes a bunch of errors when loading unembedded, and second lets updaters nuke it for said unembedded installs |
| 16:53.24 | cncfanatics | usefull for WAU I supose ? |
| 16:53.35 | durcyn | so at most you get one missing file error in your framexml.log, instead of twenty-seven |
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| 16:53.54 | NightHawkTheSane | or, if the updater is clever, can replace it with an "empty" xml file, for no errors at all |
| 16:53.56 | durcyn | because in blizzard's infinite wisdom, they apparently chose to open, write, and close the file on every error, which is quite costly when you scale it up |
| 16:54.02 | cncfanatics | well, if u dont mind, do it for FlexBar2 too please :p |
| 16:54.12 | sylvanaar | useful for any automated processing - its actually handled by the zip script |
| 16:55.19 | CIA-22 | 03darkimakuni * r45102 10FuBar_uGuild/ (FuBar_uGuild.toc embeds.xml): |
| 16:55.19 | CIA-22 | FuBar_uGuild: |
| 16:55.19 | CIA-22 | - .toc changed to 20100 |
| 16:55.19 | CIA-22 | - Use embeds.xml |
| 16:55.22 | sylvanaar | we have eliminated the 1 error, so embeds.xml = 0 errors now |
| 16:55.42 | cncfanatics | hmmm, one question |
| 16:56.15 | cncfanatics | I currently use appart files in FlexBar2 for every part of the addon (layout, action, etc.) |
| 16:56.22 | CIA-22 | 03darkimakuni * r45103 10Visor2/ (Visor2.toc embeds.xml): |
| 16:56.22 | CIA-22 | Visor2 |
| 16:56.22 | CIA-22 | - Use embeds.xml |
| 16:56.26 | cncfanatics | if I make them LoD, It'd be wise to use another xml file I think ? |
| 16:56.32 | cncfanatics | libs.xml or whatever |
| 16:56.39 | durcyn | why? |
| 16:56.51 | cncfanatics | if they're in the toc wow would try to open them ? |
| 16:57.07 | durcyn | embeds.xml is in the toc, lib calls are in embeds.xml |
| 16:57.15 | durcyn | the only thing you're short-circuiting is framexml.log |
| 16:57.56 | sylvanaar | addon.toc -> embeds.xml -> all your libs |
| 16:58.03 | cncfanatics | I don't mean libraries |
| 16:58.21 | cncfanatics | I mean parts of the addon that can either be in the addon folder, or as seperate addons LoD |
| 16:58.23 | sylvanaar | there is modules.xml for modules |
| 16:59.10 | cncfanatics | yep thats what I meant :) |
| 16:59.20 | cncfanatics | darkimakuni could you do the same for FlexBar2 for me ? |
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| 17:04.41 | CIA-22 | 03durcyn * r45104 10FlexBar2/ (FlexBar2.toc embeds.xml): FlexBar2: use embeds.xml |
| 17:04.48 | durcyn | cncfanatics: ^ |
| 17:04.52 | Antiarc | Is anyone else getting "Invalid access" when they try to post on the WoW forums? |
| 17:06.12 | cncfanatics | durcyn, ty |
| 17:06.18 | cncfanatics | Antiarc, I can post just fine on EU forums |
| 17:07.00 | cncfanatics | emebds.xml in toc lol |
| 17:07.04 | cncfanatics | nice spelling |
| 17:07.08 | durcyn | oh hell |
| 17:07.32 | CIA-22 | 03durcyn * r45105 10FlexBar2/FlexBar2.toc: FlexBar2: fix typo |
| 17:07.54 | durcyn | it's early yet, only noon here. |
| 17:08.00 | cncfanatics | 7pm here |
| 17:09.50 | CIA-22 | 03cncfanatics * r45106 10FlexBar2/FlexBar2.toc: FlexBar2: Removed Command_Class.lua from toc |
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| 17:12.36 | cncfanatics | DarkImakuni_ u should kill ur ghost :) |
| 17:12.52 | DarkImakuni_ | how do I do that? |
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| 17:13.34 | cncfanatics | do u have a username & password at freenode ? |
| 17:13.50 | DarkImakuni_ | I should do |
| 17:13.55 | cncfanatics | if so /msg NickServ username password |
| 17:13.58 | cncfanatics | usp |
| 17:14.00 | cncfanatics | ups |
| 17:14.07 | cncfanatics | s/NickServ/NickServ GHOST/ |
| 17:14.15 | cncfanatics | purl is slacking meh |
| 17:14.40 | cncfanatics | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:14.49 | cncfanatics | that will kick ur ghost |
| 17:15.40 | cncfanatics | :) |
| 17:15.44 | CIA-22 | 03broliant * r45107 10Fubar_ConvergeFu/ (ConvergeFu.lua FuBar_ConvergeFu.toc Locale-enUS.lua): Fubar_ConvergeFu: Added additional itemcheck options. |
| 17:15.50 | DarkImakuni | there we go :) cheers |
| 17:17.21 | CIA-22 | 03broliant * r45108 10Fubar_RecountFu/FuBar_RecountFu.toc: Fubar_RecountFu: Toc-file updated for current game version. |
| 17:20.18 | cncfanatics | someone shoot that guy |
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| 17:20.42 | cncfanatics | ~shoot broliant |
| 17:20.43 | purl | ACTION shoots broliant in the head with a frozen turkey cannon! |
| 17:20.55 | cncfanatics | thank you, purl |
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| 17:21.18 | Antiarc | okay, how do I save a layout in Pitbull? |
| 17:21.23 | Antiarc | The option seems to have disappeared |
| 17:21.48 | Mudkips | <3 pitbull |
| 17:22.11 | dodgizzla | Hey Antiarc, word on the street is you're working on Sanity again? :>> |
| 17:22.13 | cncfanatics | Antiarc, ckknight slipped a conditional in so if ur char is named Antiarc it disapears |
| 17:22.18 | Antiarc | dodgizzla: Not quite yet ;) |
| 17:22.43 | dodgizzla | Damn :> |
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| 17:32.25 | CIA-22 | 03broliant * r45109 10/trunk/ (FuBar_RecountFu/ Fubar_RecountFu/): FuBar_RecountFu: Renamed remotely |
| 17:32.38 | dodgizzla | I don't know if this is a Prat or BigWigs problem, but anyway.. http://ace.pastey.net/71496 |
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| 17:33.02 | CIA-22 | 03broliant * r45110 10/trunk/ (FuBar_ConvergeFu/ Fubar_ConvergeFu/): FuBar_ConvergeFu: Renamed remotely |
| 17:33.12 | Amadeo | Why does everyone run out of LOS when you're healing in an Arena? |
| 17:33.44 | sylvanaar | Im thinking of installing vista64 on my main pc, just bite the bullet, so to speak - any reason not to? |
| 17:34.03 | cncfanatics | sylvanaar |
| 17:34.05 | cncfanatics | ~DRM |
| 17:34.05 | purl | i guess drm is a cool new video card feature in the 2.4 kernel -- http://precisioninsight.com/dr/drm.html or the Direct Rendering Module, or called Direct Rendering Manager. "an acronym for "Digital Rights Management" ", or http://www.microsoft.com/windows/windowsmedia/drm.asp ... the best big black-caca from the ass of gates Just Say No(TM), or better known as ... |
| 17:34.20 | sylvanaar | i dont care about that really |
| 17:34.47 | cncfanatics | you should really, but well, everyone his ethics |
| 17:35.16 | Silviu- | Antiarc did u read what i said in private earlier ? ;) |
| 17:35.34 | cncfanatics | oh also sylvanaar |
| 17:35.36 | sylvanaar | DRM is an inevitability |
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| 17:35.45 | *** mode/#wowace [+o ckknight] by ChanServ |
| 17:35.49 | cncfanatics | sylvanaar, it is not, I ditched any MS stuff and installed debian |
| 17:36.00 | DarkImakuni | I can't wait to get my Mac |
| 17:36.11 | cncfanatics | sylvanaar, also |
| 17:36.12 | CIA-22 | 03broliant * r45111 10FuBar_RecountFu/FuBar_RecountFu.toc: FuBar_RecountFu: Updated TOC file with required fields. |
| 17:36.23 | cncfanatics | currently, due to VERY poor driver design, most gfx drivers are not ready for vista |
| 17:36.30 | sylvanaar | i have heard really good things about vista64 - mac will have its own versino of DRM - dont worry. |
| 17:36.45 | cncfanatics | sylvanaar, why would it ? |
| 17:36.53 | cncfanatics | same about linux |
| 17:38.39 | sylvanaar | because Apple is a for-profit company, and DRM is something that the media industry wants |
| 17:39.23 | cncfanatics | it isn't something the customers want though |
| 17:39.25 | Silviu- | ckknight , ping |
| 17:39.37 | cncfanatics | as a company, if I could find a way to make HD content work without DRM, I'd do it |
| 17:39.52 | ckknight | Silviu-: pong |
| 17:41.06 | cncfanatics | ckknight, some errors in parrot |
| 17:41.06 | Silviu- | ckknight a little strange behaviour with CowTip, i`ll tell u how to reproduce inv 2 3 persons and make a raid open blizzard raid window "o" and mouseover names u get no tooltips for that usualy would be name and location and so |
| 17:41.10 | Thrae | Silviu-: You pinged me. How am I suppose to be awake at 3am EST |
| 17:41.32 | Silviu- | Thrae hmm i think i wanted to ask about Tinytip options ;p |
| 17:41.32 | ckknight | cncfanatics: k? |
| 17:41.35 | cncfanatics | [2007/07/28 18:38:57-163-x18]: Parrot-r44241\CombatEvents.lua:952: attempt to index global 't' (a nil value) |
| 17:41.39 | sylvanaar | cncfanatics customers would like to copy the stuff for free |
| 17:41.48 | Silviu- | Thrae but i figured out by myself |
| 17:41.55 | Thrae | Ah, good. |
| 17:42.01 | cncfanatics | sylvanaar, why would you care about that as software company ? :p |
| 17:42.07 | cncfanatics | DRM only protects video |
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| 17:42.20 | cncfanatics | oh, and it has already been cracked |
| 17:42.28 | cncfanatics | [2007/07/28 18:39:58-163-x8326]: Parrot-r44241\CombatEvents.lua:938: bad argument #1 to 'pairs' (table expected, got boolean) |
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| 17:43.18 | CIA-22 | 03broliant * r45112 10FuBar_RecountFu/FuBar_RecountFu.toc: FuBar_RecountFu: ToC file change - incorrect author attribution. |
| 17:43.24 | Silviu- | ckknight u read what i said ? |
| 17:43.43 | ckknight | Silviu-: yea |
| 17:43.47 | ckknight | cncfanatics: you're out of date |
| 17:43.55 | Silviu- | Should i make a screen and explain it so ? |
| 17:43.57 | ckknight | Silviu-: wait, no, not the last part, I think |
| 17:44.02 | ckknight | yea, make a screen |
| 17:44.03 | Silviu- | Or u understood my poor english ;p |
| 17:44.09 | Silviu- | Okay one sec |
| 17:44.26 | cncfanatics | ckknight, kay I'll update |
| 17:44.41 | ckknight | cncfanatics: you should've updated before coming to me |
| 17:44.49 | cncfanatics | I usualy update my addons |
| 17:44.51 | cncfanatics | hmmmm |
| 17:44.55 | cncfanatics | when have I last run WAU -.- |
| 17:45.34 | CIA-22 | 03broliant * r45113 10FuBar_ConvergeFu/FuBar_ConvergeFu.toc: FuBar_ConvergeFu: Attribution and Name fields changed in ToC file. |
| 17:46.45 | Silviu- | ckknight u won`t see my cursor but is over Draganis http://img513.imageshack.us/my.php?image=wowscrnshot072807204537jh0.jpg and the tooltip should apear up from my minimap but any raid member i mouseover no tooltips |
| 17:47.17 | ckknight | any errors? |
| 17:47.28 | Silviu- | None |
| 17:47.43 | Silviu- | Try to reproduce at u pls |
| 17:47.50 | ckknight | alright |
| 17:48.41 | Silviu- | Could be from the dogtag i use ? |
| 17:48.46 | Silviu- | For normal units work |
| 17:48.51 | Silviu- | http://img509.imageshack.us/my.php?image=wowscrnshot072807204925ht2.jpg |
| 17:49.06 | Mudkips | my my, many druids you have |
| 17:49.28 | Silviu- | Yes :( |
| 17:49.30 | Silviu- | Noob raid heh |
| 17:49.34 | Silviu- | 2 tank 2 heal |
| 17:49.59 | cncfanatics | lol |
| 17:50.01 | cncfanatics | Legoles |
| 17:50.03 | Mudkips | are you doing Nightbane too? |
| 17:50.05 | cncfanatics | that rogue needs a BETTER name |
| 17:50.23 | Silviu- | Mudkips yes why ? |
| 17:50.24 | vhaarr | nightbane is no problem with 2 tanks and 2 healers, netherspite is worse |
| 17:50.29 | Mudkips | any player on alliance with a name close to legolis is insta ganked |
| 17:50.34 | cncfanatics | yep |
| 17:50.37 | cncfanatics | its legolas btw |
| 17:50.44 | Mudkips | how do you escape fear with druids? |
| 17:50.53 | cncfanatics | fear ward |
| 17:50.54 | cncfanatics | tremor |
| 17:50.57 | cncfanatics | same as pala :p |
| 17:51.00 | Silviu- | Well we usually have a dwarf priest ;) |
| 17:51.04 | Mudkips | I dont see a shaman |
| 17:51.10 | vhaarr | just use 2 tanks |
| 17:51.13 | vhaarr | ah, fear |
| 17:51.33 | cncfanatics | btw, WTB fear ward horde side |
| 17:51.34 | cncfanatics | its silly |
| 17:51.38 | vhaarr | it's not silly |
| 17:51.41 | vhaarr | you have wotf |
| 17:51.41 | ccKep | offtank runs out of fear range before fear is incoming (if tanking with pala/druid) |
| 17:51.50 | Mudkips | how many undead warriors do you meet? |
| 17:51.50 | cncfanatics | yea |
| 17:51.52 | Mudkips | none- |
| 17:51.57 | cncfanatics | we have a 3 minute fear breaker |
| 17:52.05 | cncfanatics | u have a 30 second fear immunity spell |
| 17:52.08 | cncfanatics | yea balance lael |
| 17:52.10 | vhaarr | heh, no |
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| 17:52.32 | cncfanatics | and vhaarr, neither paladins or druids can be undead, and they need it |
| 17:52.38 | cncfanatics | warriors can stancedance in the first place |
| 17:52.50 | vhaarr | I don't see why they need it |
| 17:52.59 | Thrae | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:53.09 | Thrae | Ahh...whoops |
| 17:53.17 | vhaarr | I was 2 seconds away from a kickban there :P |
| 17:53.23 | vhaarr | then I read the name and thought "wtf" |
| 17:53.25 | Mudkips | nanoha... |
| 17:53.28 | Mudkips | oh lawdie |
| 17:53.41 | Thrae | Wrong terminal! |
| 17:53.57 | cncfanatics | vhaarr, to tank ? |
| 17:54.13 | Thrae | Well, for Druids, Ferals get greatly improved Fear protection |
| 17:54.14 | CIA-22 | 03duerma * r45114 10RPHelper2/localization.lua: |
| 17:54.14 | CIA-22 | RPHelper2: |
| 17:54.14 | CIA-22 | - Fixed the German localization. HUGE KUDOS to Privelgus!!! |
| 17:54.22 | vhaarr | cncfanatics: get a warrior then |
| 17:54.27 | cncfanatics | resist, except if its 100% aint reliable though |
| 17:54.48 | Mudkips | one realy a warrior is still needed, stance dance |
| 17:54.48 | cncfanatics | vhaarr, its irritating when you aren't one :p and even more when none in your guild want to spec prot |
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| 17:54.49 | Thrae | There's also not only just the PvP Trinket for Druids, but also the Blacksmith trinket...and maybe one other one |
| 17:54.52 | Mudkips | real reason* |
| 17:55.20 | cncfanatics | hmmm, I'm gonna get coding on FB2 again, anyone got experience with secure buttons ? |
| 17:55.23 | cncfanatics | I'll need help :p |
| 18:00.11 | Silviu- | ckknight http://ace.pastey.net/71497 in case u think is my dogtag combo |
| 18:00.58 | CIA-22 | 03sylvanaar * r45115 10Prat/Prat_Modules/modules/Sounds.lua: Prat: Missing self: in Sounds module |
| 18:01.32 | Xuerian | Man, where's nymbia and hyper when you need them |
| 18:05.18 | CIA-22 | 03sylvanaar * r45116 10Debug-1.0/ (5 files in 3 dirs): Debug-1.0: Many issues fixed, there are still a few more that need to be worked out. |
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| 18:06.07 | CIA-22 | 03darkimakuni * r45117 10Postal/Modules/BlackBook.lua: |
| 18:06.07 | CIA-22 | Postal_BlackBook: |
| 18:06.07 | CIA-22 | - dewdrop:AddLine("text", "") -> dewdrop:AddLine() |
| 18:06.45 | Antiarc | ckknight: Ping |
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| 18:09.09 | Ironhand | after updating my Ace addons (with externals), Omen complains about a missing Sink-1.0 library, but that doesn't seem to be available... solutions? |
| 18:10.00 | sylvanaar | download it yourself |
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| 18:10.08 | Ironhand | where can I download it? |
| 18:10.34 | sylvanaar | same place |
| 18:10.46 | Ironhand | as? |
| 18:10.59 | [dRaCo] | wowace.com/files |
| 18:11.13 | Ironhand | no "Sink" or "Sink-1.0" there |
| 18:11.23 | [dRaCo] | SinkLib |
| 18:11.34 | Ironhand | I have SinkLib installed, but that doesn't stop the error |
| 18:12.31 | Antiarc | Heh, someone didn't set up the external |
| 18:12.35 | Antiarc | I'll see about getting that set up |
| 18:12.45 | Ironhand | ok, thanks :-) |
| 18:12.49 | durcyn | i sure as hell did set the external, did it fail to commit? |
| 18:12.58 | Antiarc | *shrug* |
| 18:12.59 | Antiarc | Ooh |
| 18:13.04 | Antiarc | You probably didn't set the opdep |
| 18:13.08 | Antiarc | So WAU can't autoresolve it |
| 18:13.31 | durcyn | ## OptionalDeps: Ace2, FuBar, Threat-1.0, SW_Stats, SinkLib |
| 18:13.38 | sylvanaar | >< |
| 18:14.15 | Antiarc | okay, sink's in the externals |
| 18:15.02 | sylvanaar | put it in X-Embeds: SinkLib |
| 18:15.09 | durcyn | set in embeds as well |
| 18:15.17 | durcyn | http://svn.wowace.com/wowace/trunk/Omen/Omen.toc |
| 18:16.05 | sylvanaar | oh the pain of those optdeps |
| 18:16.30 | durcyn | and it's included in r45064.1.zip in /files/ |
| 18:17.08 | ckknight | Antiarc: pong |
| 18:17.28 | Antiarc | ckknight: Idea for Parrot: Total DoT damage done when a DoT finishes? |
| 18:17.36 | Antiarc | Sorta like the throttling |
| 18:17.56 | ckknight | ooh |
| 18:17.59 | cncfanatics | rather get the dps for a dot tbh |
| 18:18.01 | ckknight | pretty much impossible |
| 18:18.02 | cncfanatics | or both |
| 18:18.09 | Chompers | how would the program know the dot/hot has finished? |
| 18:18.15 | cncfanatics | when it fades |
| 18:18.21 | Antiarc | When you don't get any more ticks. |
| 18:18.29 | Chompers | what if i cast it again |
| 18:18.38 | ckknight | Antiarc: if you have multiple of the same DoT going at once on mobs of the same name? |
| 18:18.41 | Antiarc | That'd refresh, so you'd display once it actually falls off |
| 18:18.48 | Antiarc | ckknight: Group 'em up |
| 18:19.07 | cncfanatics | that'd be buggy tho |
| 18:19.12 | Antiarc | Basically, considering the DoT to be a really, really slow AOE |
| 18:19.34 | Antiarc | I dunno, just thought it'd be interesting |
| 18:19.56 | Antiarc | I'd love to see how much damage my deadly/rupture is doing once it finishes |
| 18:19.59 | Chompers | it's a good idea |
| 18:20.04 | Antiarc | It'd also alert me of DoT fades |
| 18:20.06 | Chompers | i'd like to see something like that in recount |
| 18:22.04 | Amadeo | hm, starting to wonder if Paladins are even worth it in the arena, all you need is one Priest and they're shut down |
| 18:22.28 | Amadeo | I guess if you can kill the Priest |
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| 18:22.39 | Amadeo | Seems like the tree Druids last forever |
| 18:22.42 | cncfanatics | well, if you have a paladin in ur team the priest should be the prime target |
| 18:23.23 | Amadeo | those druids are pretty sick |
| 18:23.31 | Amadeo | how much armor does treeform give? |
| 18:23.35 | Antiarc | none |
| 18:23.38 | sylvanaar | lol none |
| 18:23.40 | Antiarc | Trees are squishy |
| 18:24.25 | cncfanatics | its just plain leather ur bashing on |
| 18:24.26 | Amadeo | just instant heals? |
| 18:24.32 | cncfanatics | HoTs |
| 18:24.37 | cncfanatics | and swiftmend as instant |
| 18:24.40 | Amadeo | yeah |
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| 18:25.49 | Poul|Raider | nogen der kender en irc channel hvor jeg ka få lidt hjælp med fraps issues, fps lag while recording |
| 18:26.23 | cncfanatics | Poul|Raider english pl0x |
| 18:26.28 | Poul|Raider | lol |
| 18:26.33 | Poul|Raider | :P |
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| 18:26.41 | cncfanatics | wrong chan ? :p |
| 18:26.53 | Poul|Raider | naa was just thinking on something els: P the last part was in english |
| 18:27.12 | Poul|Raider | anyway, was asking if anyone knew a channel where i might find some help at some fraps issues |
| 18:27.25 | DarkImakuni | anyone else keep getting an "Interface\\FrameXML\\ActionButton.lua:134: attempt to concatenate a nil value" error on load? I can't seem to find the source :( |
| 18:27.59 | Amadeo | Shamans die too fast |
| 18:28.06 | Amadeo | Boomkins are pretty sick, too |
| 18:28.18 | DarkImakuni | omg shamans can die now? o.O |
| 18:28.24 | Amadeo | I can't even outheal their Wrath spam with 1055 healing |
| 18:28.44 | Antiarc | ckknight: Pitbull seems to filter out rogue poison debuffs as a rogue, when debuff filtering is enabled. |
| 18:29.17 | Chompers | and warrior deep wound debuff |
| 18:29.34 | ckknight | Antiarc: hrm, doesn't seem like it should do that |
| 18:29.42 | ckknight | you can add the debuff to PitBull_Auras |
| 18:29.46 | Antiarc | It shouldn't. Rogues especially need to see deadly |
| 18:29.48 | Antiarc | Okay, I will |
| 18:30.58 | xb95 | AceOptions question .. I want to have "/addon command <data>" be like an "execute" item but pass <data> to the func. I could simulate with a "text" type, but I don't have any Get function. (And doing a 'return false' makes it say [None].) |
| 18:31.20 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r45118 10Joker/Joker.lua: |
| 18:31.20 | CIA-22 | Joker - bugfix with library names. |
| 18:31.20 | CIA-22 | - inject :GetLibraryVersion() onto libraries (like how AceLibrary does it, only in a significantly less hackish way) |
| 18:31.45 | xb95 | I can't think of an addon that does this, or I'd look at it... hrm... |
| 18:31.48 | Antiarc | Hm. The debuff is already there, it seems |
| 18:31.53 | ckknight | xb95: get = false |
| 18:32.06 | Antiarc | return "" |
| 18:32.10 | Antiarc | That works too |
| 18:32.45 | xb95 | ckknight: ah, I was on the right track, just got off at the wrong station. it works now, takk fyrir (as they say in Iceland) |
| 18:33.10 | ckknight | um, howdy |
| 18:33.16 | cncfanatics | xb95, Get = false works indeed |
| 18:33.18 | cncfanatics | thats what I use |
| 18:33.39 | etip | what's Joker ? |
| 18:33.58 | ckknight | etip: secret project of mine that might be Ace3 |
| 18:34.11 | etip | aww :) |
| 18:34.35 | Shirik | rofl |
| 18:35.13 | Shirik | I like the amiguity |
| 18:35.21 | Chompers | looking at PitBull_Aura ckknight |
| 18:35.36 | ckknight | Shirik: ? |
| 18:35.41 | Chompers | its very neat and ordered :O |
| 18:35.46 | Thrae | Eh, what's the use of ckknight making Ace3? You're the one who changed the direction of the Ace2 project in the first place ^^;; |
| 18:35.57 | ckknight | yep. |
| 18:36.03 | ckknight | I claim them both |
| 18:36.21 | Antiarc | ah, I see |
| 18:36.22 | ckknight | Joker is basically a different approach to things |
| 18:36.24 | Antiarc | The debuff has ranks, ckknight |
| 18:36.27 | Thrae | Let's all pervert ckknight's Ace3! |
| 18:36.38 | ckknight | pervert how? |
| 18:36.42 | Antiarc | Deadly Poison VII |
| 18:37.14 | ckknight | Antiarc: hrm, that's the actual, literal debuff? |
| 18:37.21 | Antiarc | "Deadly Poison VII? |
| 18:37.24 | Shirik | ckknight: Never mind :P |
| 18:37.26 | Thrae | By actually optimizing it for both development -and- use? :D |
| 18:37.30 | Antiarc | s/?/"/ |
| 18:37.57 | ckknight | Thrae: I believe users are best served through a trickle-down effect by making developers' lives easier |
| 18:38.03 | Thrae | ckknight, you have a habit of of looking at things from a use standpoint rather then a development one. Like with AceLibrary. |
| 18:38.09 | ckknight | by developers creating more and working faster, users are better served |
| 18:38.14 | NightHawkTheSane | Thrae: oh,i thought you meant injecting porn into his work. >.> |
| 18:38.15 | NightHawkTheSane | :P |
| 18:38.21 | Thrae | NightHawkTheSane: That too! |
| 18:38.35 | Thrae | ASCII pron should replace all addon licenses. |
| 18:38.45 | ckknight | who's the developer and who's the user in this case? |
| 18:38.47 | NightHawkTheSane | haha |
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| 18:39.07 | etip | both |
| 18:39.23 | Thrae | ckknight: Your style facilitates quick and easy development instead of optimized development, that's what I meant. |
| 18:39.35 | ckknight | *shrug* |
| 18:39.50 | ckknight | Thrae: you should take a look at Joker, I think you'll like what you see |
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| 18:43.58 | Chompers | did adding ranks fix your debuff problem Antiarc? |
| 18:44.02 | Antiarc | Just about to test it |
| 18:44.06 | Antiarc | I'm doing it while in a Slab run |
| 18:44.08 | Thrae | ckknight: Seems like some weird implementation to help handle LoD / LoadManagers and embedded / standalone libraries? |
| 18:44.24 | ckknight | oh, that part's from AceLibrary |
| 18:44.32 | ckknight | to load libraries that aren't currently loaded |
| 18:44.47 | ckknight | it's basically a replacement for AceLibrary/AceAddon/Mixin part of AceOO |
| 18:46.02 | Thrae | Yeah...I don't see the point to all this. Why would the main library handle enabling and disabling addons and libraries using the WoW API? |
| 18:46.42 | Thrae | Or is Joker suppose to be some type of embeddable LoadManager stub? |
| 18:47.26 | Antiarc | Chompers: That fixed it |
| 18:47.42 | ckknight | yes, AceLibrary already does that, Thrae |
| 18:47.46 | Chompers | can you add deep woulds rank 1 and 2 ? |
| 18:47.58 | Chompers | i can do it locally, but that wont fix it for everyone :P |
| 18:48.01 | ckknight | just don't worry about that part, it's mostly about creating libraries and addons |
| 18:48.31 | Thrae | Yeah...that's what I never liked about the resulted AceLibrary. |
| 18:48.43 | ckknight | that it enables libraries? |
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| 18:48.47 | ckknight | that you request? |
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| 18:49.33 | Antiarc | Sure |
| 18:50.01 | Chompers | *wounds |
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| 18:50.23 | Thrae | No, that it had stuff other then that...besides, LoD isn't really necessary for libraries. They aren't suppose to be THAT big in the first place. If the library does nothing unless instantiated, even if you have 50 libraries, the amount of resources they take up is pretty trivial. |
| 18:50.57 | ckknight | ...no |
| 18:50.58 | ckknight | just no |
| 18:51.05 | ckknight | some libraries are big |
| 18:51.10 | Antiarc | Chompers: What's the actual debuff name? |
| 18:51.14 | Antiarc | My war isn't specced into DW |
| 18:51.16 | ckknight | and it's better if you don't load things needlessly |
| 18:51.25 | Antiarc | I'm pretty sure it's just Deep Wound |
| 18:51.43 | Thrae | If a library is too big, then it should be broken up. |
| 18:52.13 | charon | Antiarc: http://n.ethz.ch/~trast/download/WoWScrnShot_072807_181246.jpg <- notice ToT frame and omen threat estimates |
| 18:52.19 | Thrae | Otherwise you get the easy possibility that the average addon will only use 50% of the library anyway. |
| 18:52.47 | Chompers | 'Deep Wounds' |
| 18:52.51 | Antiarc | That seems right to me, charon |
| 18:52.51 | charon | Antiarc: i'm not really sure what happened but that mage was usually way above me on threat yet didn't pull aggro |
| 18:52.55 | Chompers | it's an arms talent about 4 tiers down |
| 18:52.59 | Antiarc | charon: Multi-mob pulls, likely |
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| 18:53.50 | Gnarfoz | installed libs by size: Babble-2.2, PT3 |
| 18:54.00 | Gnarfoz | ace2 itself |
| 18:54.03 | ckknight | Thrae: if it should be broken up, under your insane logic, it would still load without LoD |
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| 18:54.09 | Gnarfoz | all the other ones are not that big :> |
| 18:54.15 | charon | Antiarc: no, it's one of the elven groups near one of the keymasters in mecha (heroic), i think no pull right up to the two astromages near the elevator has two mobs of the same name |
| 18:54.28 | ckknight | Gnarfoz: still, would you want to load something you'll never use? |
| 18:54.30 | charon | and also note that zauberä only has KTM, but lubiduh has omen |
| 18:54.35 | Antiarc | Hm |
| 18:54.36 | CIA-22 | 03break19 * r45119 10EnvenomX/ (EnvenomX.toc core.lua): |
| 18:54.36 | CIA-22 | EnvenomX |
| 18:54.36 | CIA-22 | - Removed unneeded externals and cleaned it up some more. |
| 18:54.36 | CIA-22 | - Now checks that the poisons are *your* poisons |
| 18:54.36 | CIA-22 | - Made the "Envenom" Text a lot more visible |
| 18:54.37 | break19 | yay me. |
| 18:54.43 | Gnarfoz | ckknight: no, and I agree with you on that point, entirely :) |
| 18:54.43 | Cryect | We've got LOD might as well use it |
| 18:54.56 | Cryect | no real reason not to take advatnage of it |
| 18:54.59 | ckknight | exactly, Cryect |
| 18:55.24 | break19 | woops. it didnt remove the external like it was supposed to... *sigh* |
| 18:55.35 | Gnarfoz | charon: srsly, is that swytzerdeutsch oder is it just reaaaally bad spelling? :D |
| 18:56.05 | Thrae | ckknight: Well, that's part of embedding. If the addon is disabled, obviously the library it embeds won't be loaded. |
| 18:56.07 | break19 | there. |
| 18:56.11 | CIA-22 | 03break19 * r45120 10EnvenomX/libs/: EnvenomX - Actually remove the externals that I thought I already did. |
| 18:57.09 | charon | Gnarfoz: zauberä? hmm it comes rather close how i would pronounce "zaubern" (cast a spell) in my dialect, yes, but the player in question is german |
| 18:57.16 | Thrae | Using a simple stub solution, embedding libraries does not really add a signifigant amount to load time. |
| 18:57.26 | Gnarfoz | charon: no, the /w conversation on the right side ;) |
| 18:57.36 | charon | oh yes, that is swiss german |
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| 18:57.53 | Gnarfoz | alright ^^ |
| 18:58.05 | Antiarc | charon: Aha, it's probably the lacerate crits |
| 18:58.07 | ckknight | LoD has nothing to do with embedding |
| 18:58.08 | Antiarc | I need do fix that |
| 18:58.08 | ckknight | LoD only matters for standalones |
| 18:58.10 | ckknight | for embedding, it's a completely separate issue |
| 18:58.44 | charon | Antiarc: what's broken about them? |
| 18:58.53 | Antiarc | They should give double inherent threat on crits |
| 18:58.56 | Antiarc | They don't at the moment |
| 18:59.01 | Thrae | The average user shouldn't worry about making libraries standalone. That's mainly for development and testing purposes, where whatever optimization can be gained through standalone isn't necessary. |
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| 19:00.22 | ckknight | Thrae: not sure anyone's arguing that point |
| 19:00.31 | ckknight | but some people do like to use standalones instead |
| 19:02.22 | Thrae | Well, it doesn't make any sense from a user's perspective to put your libraries standalone, hence I don't see the purpose in making the library more complex and bigger. Why coddle the illogical? |
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| 19:02.40 | break19 | hey, ck... my addon uses soar to "pipe" text into parrot.... this is the line I use: self:SoarNotify("Envenom!!", 1, 1, 0, nil, 48, "THICKOUTLINE", crit) - supposedly thats supposed to make parrot give it a "sticky" or "crit" style.. but it just scrolls right off as if it werent... what gives? is it my code? or a soar bug, or what? |
| 19:03.10 | durcyn | break19: use Sink:Pour |
| 19:03.20 | durcyn | and set the fifth field to TRUE instead of nil |
| 19:03.32 | ckknight | break19: use Sink |
| 19:03.37 | break19 | durcyn: ok, so sink's ready for usage now? |
| 19:03.38 | ckknight | break19: Soar is deprecated |
| 19:04.01 | break19 | k, i didnt see an api for it, other than browsing the code.. which I suck at. lol |
| 19:04.20 | ckknight | durcyn: true, not TRUE |
| 19:04.26 | ccKep | hmhmhm |
| 19:04.35 | Thrae | How existential! |
| 19:05.11 | ccKep | if I change the horizontal/vertical position of a scroll area of Parrot using the text field the preview frame doesn't move :( |
| 19:05.31 | ccKep | e.g. the orange frame which becomes visible when I check "Configuration Mode" |
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| 19:07.14 | ccKep | now the text comes from 60,-30 but the frame shows up on a totally different location ^.^ |
| 19:07.47 | break19 | ckknight: Sink:Pour("Envenom!!", 1, 1, 0, nil, true) ? |
| 19:07.48 | CIA-22 | 03antiarc * r45121 10PitBull/Aura/Aura.lua: PitBull: Added ranks of rogue poisons for debuff filtering |
| 19:08.24 | Thrae | ckknight: So like I said, if you're doing stuff like that in Joker, I don't see the point in making another framework that still adhears to the principles that detracted Ace2 from its original philosophy ^^;; |
| 19:08.27 | ckknight | break19: I honestly don't know |
| 19:08.32 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r45122 10Joker/Joker.lua: Joker - document using Autodoc format |
| 19:08.37 | ckknight | Thrae: philosophy? |
| 19:08.45 | Thrae | Might as well just make it Ace3, or Ace2.5, or whatever. |
| 19:09.34 | ckknight | Thrae: philosophy falls away, replaced by pragmatism |
| 19:09.54 | xb95 | Is there a LUA help channel? |
| 19:10.01 | ckknight | xb95: #lua |
| 19:10.05 | ckknight | and it's Lua or lua, not LUA |
| 19:10.17 | xb95 | Alright, LuA it is. |
| 19:10.29 | break19 | heh |
| 19:10.32 | ckknight | and seeing as the original people who were prophesying have pretty much all left, Thrae, that argument doesn't really stand up |
| 19:10.52 | Thrae | ckknight: You know why they left ^^; |
| 19:11.01 | ckknight | sure do |
| 19:11.12 | Ominous | ~Joker |
| 19:11.27 | ckknight | Ominous: secret project that might actually be Ace3 |
| 19:11.32 | Thrae | I bet a lot of people would like an Ace3 which is mostly backwards compatible. Something they could easily switch to. |
| 19:11.35 | break19 | ooo |
| 19:11.40 | break19 | heh |
| 19:12.15 | ckknight | Thrae: nah, if we did that, then we'd just keep Ace3 |
| 19:12.17 | ckknight | Ace2* |
| 19:12.22 | Amadeo | He means, the not-so-secret project that might be Ace3 :P |
| 19:12.25 | ckknight | it's not going to backwards compatible |
| 19:12.38 | ckknight | but the conversion process won't be painfl |
| 19:12.40 | ckknight | painful* |
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| 19:13.00 | Thrae | ckknight: Pragmatism is a philosophical movement, by the way. I was talking about a logical approach to making frameworks. |
| 19:13.19 | Thrae | Ah, well, yeah, that's what I meant by "backwards compatibility" -- make the APIs similiar where they can be similiar. |
| 19:13.41 | Thrae | Don't suddenly change it to AddEvent from RegisterEvent just because you can. And I know you'd do that. |
| 19:14.21 | ckknight | not a bad idea all in all, but I'd likely keep RegisterEvent because it's similar to Blizz's, which frankly, I think is misnamed |
| 19:14.32 | ckknight | it should be something along the lines of :RegisterForEvent |
| 19:15.00 | ckknight | Thrae: though actually the event system will split into blizz events and custom message parts |
| 19:15.00 | Chompers | i had to look up what pragmatism was :< |
| 19:15.06 | ckknight | ~pragmatism |
| 19:15.17 | Thrae | ~dict pragmatism |
| 19:16.09 | Thrae | ckknight: Yeah, AceEvent merging them always bugged me too. Better to leave it as Blizz Events and Custom Events, or Messages. |
| 19:16.32 | ckknight | I'm gonna call em messages |
| 19:16.38 | ckknight | then we'll have :RegisterMessage and :TriggerMessage |
| 19:16.44 | ckknight | :TriggerEvent goes away |
| 19:17.10 | ckknight | and the scheduling system (OnUpdate stuff) goes into its own library |
| 19:17.29 | Thrae | Sounds like what you're doing is similiar to Dongle 2.0...why don't you just makeup with cladhaire and help with that? |
| 19:18.29 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r45123 10Joker/Joker.lua: Joker - change the Autodocs because they can't take function declarations inside them. |
| 19:18.38 | ckknight | Thrae: because cladhaire and I don't play nice |
| 19:18.53 | Thrae | Then again, I can visualize your elementary school report card reading "Doesn't Play Well With Others" ;) |
| 19:18.53 | Amadeo | You guys hide shanks? |
| 19:18.58 | CIA-22 | 03darkimakuni * r45124 10KC_Items/ (3 files in 2 dirs): |
| 19:18.58 | CIA-22 | KC_Items: |
| 19:18.58 | CIA-22 | - typo fix |
| 19:19.21 | Amadeo | I've seen those MSNBC prison shows, I know how it's done! |
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| 19:19.43 | Thrae | ckknight: You just like to compete. |
| 19:20.14 | evl | ckknight: just make it smaller :P |
| 19:20.16 | ckknight | lol, Amadeo |
| 19:20.16 | ckknight | there's a problem with that? |
| 19:20.16 | evl | ckknight: lighter |
| 19:20.21 | ckknight | evl: oh, it is |
| 19:20.32 | ckknight | evl: take a look at what's there now, it's really small |
| 19:20.38 | evl | so was ace |
| 19:20.41 | ckknight | the idea is to make it as lightweight as possible |
| 19:20.43 | evl | CreateDonationFrame |
| 19:20.50 | ckknight | hey, you leave my donations be |
| 19:20.53 | ckknight | that's been useful |
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| 19:22.40 | Thrae | Really ckknight, I should remember you don't like to collaborate. I'm too much an optimist. Rather machocist how I lead myself to disappointment time and time again...but ah well, that's the life of denying hedonism. |
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| 19:23.21 | RogueShadow | ckknight: What did you do before WoW anyway? |
| 19:23.22 | ckknight | Thrae: one of the biggest things that's changed is the removal of AceOO |
| 19:23.24 | ckknight | or any core OO framework |
| 19:23.28 | Thrae | Really ckknight, I should remember you don't like to collaborate. I'm too much an optimist. Rather machocist how I lead myself to disappointment time and time again...but ah well, that's the life of denying hedonism. |
| 19:23.29 | ckknight | RogueShadow: high school |
| 19:23.50 | ckknight | RogueShadow: :-P |
| 19:24.00 | ckknight | RogueShadow: actually I was on the development team of the boo programming language for a while |
| 19:24.03 | RogueShadow | ckknight: You must have been an excellent student. But I meant hobbies. As now you seem to be a WoW addon guru. |
| 19:24.39 | Thrae | Even if I end up lying in a gutter full of my own filth, I shall always take the path of the saint! |
| 19:24.42 | ckknight | then got blindsided, played wow for a while, wanted the best UI possible, couldn't get it no matter how I tried, cause things were too heavy, and no replacement for Titan the beast was available |
| 19:24.46 | ckknight | and thus BossPanel was born |
| 19:25.02 | ckknight | Thrae: *shrug* |
| 19:25.15 | ckknight | now I'm seriously considering applying for a real job |
| 19:25.45 | Thrae | ckknight: Applying online sucks. All the jobs I want have horribly coded websites with no email contacts... |
| 19:26.09 | Amadeo | Knowing someone or having someone know you is where it's at! |
| 19:26.14 | RogueShadow | I want a real job. :( |
| 19:26.26 | Thrae | Then again, if their servers didn't suck, then they wouldn't need a capable IT guy! |
| 19:26.28 | ckknight | I'm considering emailing this guy: http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=7654.0 |
| 19:26.46 | CIA-22 | 03oridan * r45125 10ShoutReminder/ (. ShoutReminder.lua ShoutReminder.toc embeds.xml): |
| 19:26.46 | CIA-22 | ShoutReminder: |
| 19:26.46 | CIA-22 | - now supports tracking spells "per target" |
| 19:26.46 | CIA-22 | - removes obsolete bars on target death and leaving combat |
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| 19:26.55 | ckknight | need to write up a resume, though |
| 19:27.17 | Thrae | ckknight: You live near Texas? |
| 19:27.19 | ckknight | my last comp job didn't need one, I just went in and hung out for an hour while they asked me some questions |
| 19:27.27 | ckknight | Thrae: no, I live in Hawaii and want out |
| 19:27.33 | durcyn | ckknight: I'll buy you a beer if you end up in Austin. |
| 19:27.39 | ckknight | how's the real estate prices in Texas? |
| 19:27.51 | ckknight | Austin area |
| 19:27.51 | durcyn | rather high |
| 19:27.52 | Amadeo | Austin's expensive |
| 19:27.56 | ckknight | hrm |
| 19:28.01 | ckknight | but how expensive? |
| 19:28.06 | Antiarc | Austin's where you want to be for tech though |
| 19:28.09 | ckknight | I mean, here in Hawaii, you can't get a studio for less than 1200 |
| 19:28.15 | ckknight | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:28.17 | Amadeo | Yeah, Austin's a great place |
| 19:28.17 | Thrae | Ah, yeah. I could probably get a job in the gaming industry if I moved over to the West Coast, but I need to tend to my family here in Maryland... |
| 19:28.22 | ckknight | what'd it be in Austin? |
| 19:28.23 | durcyn | oh dear. half that, depending on the part of town. |
| 19:28.38 | Thrae | East Coast has some gaming opportunities, but not as much as West Coast. |
| 19:28.38 | Antiarc | I'm paying $970 for a 1100 sq. ft apartment in a great part of town in Phoenix |
| 19:28.39 | ckknight | okay, that's fine, then |
| 19:28.47 | ckknight | ooh, that's nice, Antiarc |
| 19:28.54 | Amadeo | Thrae: Mythic is in Fairfax and Bethesda Softworks is in Rockville, I believe :) |
| 19:28.57 | Thrae | ckknight: Note that the gaming industry entry level is very, very poor |
| 19:29.13 | Thrae | Amadeo: 15:34 < Thrae> East Coast has some gaming opportunities, but not as much as West Coast. |
| 19:29.19 | ckknight | Thrae: very poor in what? money? |
| 19:29.22 | Antiarc | yes |
| 19:29.27 | Thrae | ckknight: Right |
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| 19:29.41 | Antiarc | entry level game dev pays a good bit less than other programming jobs |
| 19:29.48 | Amadeo | Thrae: Yeah, but working for Mythic might be fun...just not sure about the EA part :P |
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| 19:30.18 | Thrae | Amadeo: I know someone who works for Mythic...that reminds me, did I apply for a job there recently or not? Hmmm... |
| 19:30.31 | Amadeo | Oh yeah? Is it that crazy English guy in the podcasts? |
| 19:30.38 | Thrae | No :D |
| 19:30.41 | Amadeo | too bad |
| 19:30.42 | Amadeo | hahah |
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| 19:30.54 | ckknight | Antiarc: well, I don't see an issue with emailing the guy and figuring out what he'd pay me |
| 19:30.54 | Thrae | Actually, I know two people on the Design team, now that I think about it. One was a former boss. |
| 19:31.16 | Antiarc | ckknight: Of course not |
| 19:31.34 | ravagernl | Guys, in dogtag, how would I hide ?? and show playerlevel +10 instead of it? |
| 19:31.48 | Amadeo | I don't have any great contacts anymore, I used to though :( |
| 19:31.50 | kergoth | antiarc: you're in pheonix? |
| 19:31.55 | ravagernl | for [level] ofcourse |
| 19:32.19 | Antiarc | kergoth: Yeah |
| 19:32.20 | ckknight | ravagernl: [Level:Hide(??)?Level!Level#player:Add(10)] |
| 19:32.28 | Antiarc | Scottsdale, actually |
| 19:32.34 | ravagernl | :o thanks :P |
| 19:32.46 | sylvanaar | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:33.11 | Amadeo | it's a party town |
| 19:33.27 | Josh_Borke | kergoth: hola |
| 19:33.41 | kergoth | antiarc: i work in tempe and live in chandler |
| 19:33.47 | Antiarc | Oh, cool! |
| 19:33.58 | Antiarc | I work up in the Scottsdale airpark |
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| 19:35.34 | sylvanaar | austin is a good place for the "i dont like big cities" people (since it isnt) |
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| 19:35.46 | ckknight | sylvanaar: I fit into that category |
| 19:36.05 | durcyn | plus it has the largest university in the world, and all of the accompanying coeds. |
| 19:36.17 | ckknight | lol |
| 19:36.47 | durcyn | "Hey. I wrote PitBull. Let's get out of here." |
| 19:38.17 | Silviu- | ckknight u found the issue with CowTip ? |
| 19:38.20 | ckknight | durcyn: and most of Ace2, FuBar, Cartographer, CowTip, Parrot, etc. |
| 19:38.24 | ckknight | Silviu-: sorry, been a bit busy |
| 19:38.29 | Silviu- | No problem |
| 19:38.30 | ckknight | Silviu-: haven't logged into WoW yet |
| 19:38.31 | trh | cool.. at spacetime studios there are like 2/3 ex-origin employees |
| 19:38.35 | Silviu- | Heh |
| 19:38.37 | trh | origin systems inc rocked! |
| 19:38.40 | Thrae | !l us maelstrom thrae |
| 19:38.42 | ThraeBot | Thrae: Thrae's last login date is listed as March 28, 2007 on the Armory. [[ Link: http://tinyurl.com/2nf4c2 ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/3y7gvx ]] |
| 19:38.53 | ckknight | trh: yea, that was inticing |
| 19:39.48 | durcyn | i miss OSI =( |
| 19:40.02 | durcyn | most of the brass followed garriot to NCSoft |
| 19:40.22 | durcyn | and it looks like spacetime is a spinoff from some of them |
| 19:40.50 | kergoth | Josh_Borke, so what tooltips are tehre supposed to be in lt? |
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| 19:41.20 | kergoth | i'm thinking about moving out to raleigh.. research triangle park area.. seemed nice when i flew out for an interview a few years back |
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| 19:41.37 | CIA-22 | 03cryect * r45126 10Recount/ (GUI_Config.lua Recount.lua Tracker.lua): Recount - Moves to a tabbed approach for the config window |
| 19:42.14 | kergoth | Josh_Borke, also, wtb backdrop/border options :) |
| 19:42.16 | trh | i hope to find a job with embedded stuff when i graduate next year :) |
| 19:42.27 | Shirik | embedded systems? |
| 19:42.49 | Shirik | I work with embedded systems a ton :D |
| 19:42.50 | Shirik | fun stuff |
| 19:42.51 | trh | yep.. either µC for some devices or consumer oriented embedded devices :) |
| 19:43.10 | trh | yea.. i like the technical part of it |
| 19:43.23 | Shirik | I just like knowing exactly what's going on and how |
| 19:43.26 | trh | love to solder stuff and debug a bit hardware related stuff |
| 19:43.29 | trh | instead of just coding :) |
| 19:43.31 | Shirik | controlling every aspect of the system |
| 19:43.35 | Shirik | yeah |
| 19:43.43 | trh | Shirik: yea.. me too.. i'd be happy with OS writing too :) |
| 19:43.52 | Cryect | embedded systems can be fun, I like the simplicity of their processors :-p |
| 19:43.54 | trh | Shirik: but i guess tehre ain't too much need for OS ;) |
| 19:44.04 | Shirik | nah I don't really want to work on OSes |
| 19:44.17 | Shirik | I want to work on something small and force myself to fit it in a tiny package |
| 19:44.38 | Shirik | like the system I typically work with only has 3 kilobytes to work with |
| 19:44.46 | Shirik | for data, code, everything |
| 19:44.56 | kergoth | there's a certain amount of overlap between the embedded and desktop spaces, at least if you're using a arm/ppc processor rather than a atmel or something |
| 19:44.57 | trh | btw: what's the entry money-per-month (forgot the word) in the US for a programmer? =) |
| 19:45.01 | kergoth | heh |
| 19:45.05 | trh | before taxes =) |
| 19:45.22 | Antiarc | Maybe $40k on the low end? |
| 19:45.24 | Cryect | entry salary ;) |
| 19:45.26 | durcyn | we don't pay code-monkeys. |
| 19:45.28 | Shirik | that would be anually |
| 19:45.32 | Cryect | he said monthly |
| 19:45.33 | Cryect | :-p |
| 19:45.36 | Shirik | not $40k/mo |
| 19:45.37 | trh | hehe |
| 19:45.43 | Cryect | or i don't know where you are working Antiarc |
| 19:45.45 | trh | i guessed that it's per year ;) |
| 19:45.55 | Antiarc | Okay, fine, 3.3k/mo |
| 19:45.55 | Shirik | hrm, my first real job |
| 19:45.58 | trh | it's about the same in germany... like 30-40k EUR per year =) |
| 19:46.14 | Shirik | yeah, that's probably about right |
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| 19:46.21 | trh | (for a dipl. inf. (about the same as a master in computer science) |
| 19:46.30 | kergoth | it really depends. as antiarc says $40k is probably the low end. i started at $60k when i started coding professionally, but that was in a field where the devs are relatively in demand, otherwise likely wouldve been 40-50 |
| 19:47.21 | kergoth | hmm |
| 19:47.45 | Chompers | i've been told programing is a bad area to get into |
| 19:47.56 | Cryect | don't just be a programmer |
| 19:48.00 | Chompers | too many people trying to get into it |
| 19:48.01 | Antiarc | It's not bad, but it caps out faster than other fields |
| 19:48.08 | Antiarc | There are a lot of bad programmers |
| 19:48.14 | Antiarc | Good programmers are very much in demand |
| 19:48.14 | trh | Chompers: in germany it's not too bad.. there's a big market for *good* programmers :) |
| 19:48.49 | kergoth | i like companies with a technical ladder, where you can move up money wise without having to go into management |
| 19:48.57 | Shirik | too many people are going into "programming" without (1) liking the job and (2) knowing how things work |
| 19:48.58 | kergoth | TI had one of those |
| 19:49.03 | Chompers | i'm trying to get myself into networking |
| 19:49.09 | Shirik | you can learn C++, but if you don't know exactly what's going on, you aren'tgoing to do well |
| 19:49.24 | Chompers | by the time i finish uni, it'll probably be a bad thing to get into :P |
| 19:49.27 | trh | we got like 5 major companies in a radius of 20km.. like daimler-chrysler (those nice cars most US-guys dream about getting ;), ratiopharm (big medical stuff supplier) and so on :) |
| 19:49.31 | Shirik | On the other hand, if you get specific (like embedded systems) you'll do very well |
| 19:49.36 | kergoth | emphasize the "job" in #1. just liking coding doesnt mean you'll like coding for a profession |
| 19:49.52 | Shirik | because there aren't many people who have gotten specific enough to really be in demand |
| 19:50.07 | Cryect | yeah its about speciality |
| 19:50.22 | Shirik | Anyone can fit the "programmer" specification, but what if you're looking for someone who has intricate knowledge of a 68HCS12, even if you're still writing it in C |
| 19:50.26 | Cryect | you should know something really well unless you just want to program random projects for people |
| 19:50.55 | break19 | thbbt.. chrysler.. just a dodge with a different emblem on the front. |
| 19:51.05 | break19 | <- wouldnt piss on a chrysler to put out the fire |
| 19:51.09 | Cryect | that a 68k procesor line with 12kb of internal memory? |
| 19:51.15 | kergoth | break19, my crossfire isnt a dodge, its a benz under the hood. |
| 19:51.16 | kergoth | :P |
| 19:51.17 | Shirik | it's not a 68000 |
| 19:51.18 | trh | break19: daimler-chrysler procudes merceded benz :P |
| 19:51.29 | trh | break19: german engineering in da house ;) |
| 19:51.31 | Shirik | 68HCS12 has 4000 |
| 19:51.32 | kergoth | indeed |
| 19:51.35 | break19 | yes. Im aware.. and I feel the same about benz :) |
| 19:51.37 | Cryect | ah |
| 19:51.38 | Shirik | sorry, 4000 hex |
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| 19:51.53 | Shirik | The first 1000 are memory mapped I/O, also, so you can't touch those |
| 19:51.54 | Cryect | k 64k |
| 19:52.04 | Shirik | so you end up having 3k |
| 19:52.05 | trh | break19: ah well.. the cards aren't bad... they made some mistakes few years ago... but in general very nice... BMW is very nice too:) |
| 19:52.09 | Cryect | Err not 64 |
| 19:52.15 | Cryect | I'm confusing myself >_> |
| 19:52.26 | Shirik | Usually I use 1000-1500 for data, 1500-2000 for stack, 2000+ for code |
| 19:52.28 | Cryect | adding extra 0's thats what I get for drinking durin ghte middle of the day |
| 19:52.32 | break19 | bmw is ok. my grandma has a 318. its nice |
| 19:52.49 | trh | break19: 318 is very very small compared to 7xx :) |
| 19:53.19 | break19 | she aint your typical "granny" - her foot must weigh about 30lbs the way she stomps on it. heh |
| 19:53.43 | trh | hehe |
| 19:53.47 | break19 | i remember when I was kid.. she pulled into her driveway doin damn near 30mph.. |
| 19:54.12 | break19 | all but slid into the garage, got out and said "now thats how you do it" and laughed |
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| 19:54.32 | break19 | I get it honest. :p |
| 19:54.41 | trh | hehe |
| 19:55.34 | trh | break19: seen alot of VW's new beetles in US-series lately :) |
| 19:56.01 | break19 | when I had my 16th, she came to the house in a brand new buick.. cant remember which model.. but it had a supercharged v6 |
| 19:56.16 | Diao | hm wtf |
| 19:56.18 | Gnarfoz | trh: do you know those US VW ads... "vee-dub in da house" "time to unpimp your auto"? :D hilarious ^^ |
| 19:56.22 | break19 | may have been an olds.. i dunno |
| 19:56.26 | trh | Gnancy: hehe.. yeah |
| 19:56.27 | Diao | i just got an error popup saying ace2 has been blocked from an action only available to blizz ui O_O |
| 19:56.30 | break19 | its been a while |
| 19:56.31 | trh | Gnancy: german engineering in da haus ;) |
| 19:56.35 | sedai| | i have an old newbeetle :( |
| 19:56.37 | trh | err. Gnarfoz |
| 19:56.42 | Diao | and apparently i can't open my social panel while in combat |
| 19:56.44 | Gnarfoz | Thrae: your autocomplete sucks :P |
| 19:56.48 | trh | sedai|: they rock.. but eat alot of gas :) |
| 19:56.56 | break19 | beetles are ugly.. new or old. |
| 19:57.00 | sedai| | its a 99 |
| 19:57.03 | trh | pretty much impossible to pay for them germany ;) |
| 19:57.09 | sedai| | each to thier own |
| 19:57.12 | trh | gas is like 1,40 EUR per liter! |
| 19:57.26 | sedai| | its almost 4$ here |
| 19:57.26 | break19 | not much cheaper here |
| 19:57.27 | trh | 1 gallon = 3.78 liter |
| 19:57.42 | sedai| | 4$ per gallon we suck |
| 19:57.49 | etip | 1 euro = 1.37$ |
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| 19:58.20 | etip | the other way around actually |
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| 19:58.34 | etip | 1 $ = 1.37 euro |
| 19:58.37 | Gnarfoz | no |
| 19:58.39 | trh | no |
| 19:58.44 | trh | 1 eur is 1.3 $ |
| 19:58.47 | Gnarfoz | the first way was correct |
| 19:58.57 | trh | 1 Euro = 1.3698 U.S. dollars |
| 19:59.00 | etip | ah lol, need a coffee this morning |
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| 19:59.12 | trh | (Says google :) |
| 19:59.19 | break19 | of course, if you live where I do.. you *have* to have a car, or have a real good friend who'll take you places... |
| 19:59.21 | Gnarfoz | that changes every 5 minutes or so, anyway :D |
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| 19:59.47 | trh | break19: public transportation in germany is pretty good unless you live in a <10000 inhabitants village |
| 19:59.52 | break19 | cuz walking 20mi to town isnt exactly fun :p |
| 20:00.03 | Speeddymon | I applied for svn commit access, but was turned down. Now I have a patch for CDT2 that I would like to have committed, but the author of that addon apparently isn't maintaining it anymore. Could someone else commit it for me? |
| 20:00.21 | durcyn | Speeddymon: post a diff on the forums |
| 20:00.26 | Gnarfoz | trh: yeah, we've got a pretty high population density compared to other places |
| 20:00.27 | Speeddymon | dev section? |
| 20:00.31 | trh | break19: eeks.. in this town (neu-ulm, like 200k inhabitants) a bus drives every 15-20 minutes into the city |
| 20:00.38 | durcyn | in the CDT2 thread |
| 20:00.42 | Speeddymon | k |
| 20:00.42 | trh | Gnarfoz: true :) |
| 20:00.47 | break19 | hell, they gave *me* svn access..... and calling me a lua newb would be a compliment. |
| 20:01.16 | Chompers | what's a lua ? |
| 20:01.19 | Chompers | ;) |
| 20:01.43 | trh | they should call a little ape-race "lua's" ;) |
| 20:01.47 | trh | good name for a race :P |
| 20:02.14 | break19 | Chompers: its in the lizard family... |
| 20:02.53 | Gnarfoz | first thought that occurs to me when someone mentions apes: Trunk Monkey |
| 20:03.05 | trh | Gnarfoz: trunk monkey? |
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| 20:03.48 | Gnarfoz | trh: http://www.trunkmonkey.com/content/view/28/51/ |
| 20:03.53 | trh | i do think of code monkey ;) - http://www.thinkgeek.com/images/products/zoom/timmy.jpg =) |
| 20:04.25 | trh | Gnarfoz: lol |
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| 20:06.38 | ckknight | do I list my construction work on a computer-related resume or would that detract? |
| 20:06.56 | Bejitt | probably detract |
| 20:06.57 | kergoth | i'd leave it out personally |
| 20:07.01 | ckknight | figured |
| 20:07.03 | kergoth | resumes should be relatively focused |
| 20:07.11 | trh | in germany it's common to list *everything* even internships and stuff ;) |
| 20:07.11 | Bejitt | unless you dont have a lot of prior jobs |
| 20:07.20 | trh | but i have no idea what's typically done in the us :) |
| 20:07.40 | Fritti | in .nl you should focus |
| 20:07.48 | Fritti | no need to list jobs that have 0 relevance |
| 20:08.12 | trh | Fritti: that'd be my opinon too.. but germans love the detail ;) |
| 20:08.18 | kergoth | http://covenant.kergoth.com/resume.pdf is mine if anyone's curious or feels like critiquing |
| 20:08.28 | kergoth | hmm, need to add my current job to it |
| 20:08.58 | CIA-22 | 03ktrigger * r45127 10/branches/Numen/ (. Numen.lua Numen.toc embeds.xml locales/ locales/enUS.lua): |
| 20:08.58 | CIA-22 | Numen: initial commit |
| 20:08.59 | CIA-22 | - Totem bar addon with the look and feel of Autobar. |
| 20:09.33 | trh | kergoth: looks totally different to german resumes.. german resumes usually only list the employments in order of date and theres a additional sheet of paper with extra qualifications =) |
| 20:10.15 | kergoth | well mine is ordered a bit different from most |
| 20:10.26 | kergoth | i've tended to focus on qualifications and open source work since i have no degree |
| 20:10.30 | Gnarfoz | yeah indeed, ours look totally different :D |
| 20:10.32 | kergoth | though now that i've had quite a few jobs i should rearrange |
| 20:10.37 | break19 | speaking of trunk monkeys... I want the chaperone edition for when my girl starts datin.. she's gonna be born at the end of sept. :p |
| 20:11.01 | Fritti | .nl tends to skip the 'objective' |
| 20:11.03 | trh | kergoth: another funny thing is that germans list the employment history from oldest to newest.. which is totally strange IMO :) |
| 20:11.06 | Fritti | at least from what I've seen |
| 20:11.11 | kergoth | huh, that is kinda weird indeed |
| 20:12.23 | Speeddymon | durcyn, there is no official thread, but there are 2 unofficial ones.. which should i post it to? |
| 20:12.30 | break19 | well that was strange... |
| 20:12.31 | break19 | [2007/07/28 15:04:34-337-x1]: Parrot-r44900\Code\Display.lua:238: attempt to index upvalue 'Parrot_Suppressions' (a nil value) |
| 20:12.33 | durcyn | either. |
| 20:12.56 | break19 | I've /rl'd about 3 times without getting that.. this time, I got it |
| 20:13.00 | trh | kergoth: hehe don't know a single company in your resume ;) |
| 20:13.19 | trh | kergoth: well.. ok.. texas instruments is known |
| 20:13.47 | kergoth | openedhand are an embedded linux company, they did some of the work on nokia's n770/n800 devices |
| 20:14.08 | kergoth | CSC was on a us department of defense subcontract, "Land warrior", wearables for soldiers |
| 20:14.16 | Fritti | oh nice, you worked for openedhand? |
| 20:14.23 | Gnarfoz | realistically, there are far more companies than the few ones "one would have heard of", I guess :> |
| 20:14.28 | kergoth | just a short contract, few months |
| 20:14.41 | Fritti | you run your own business? |
| 20:14.44 | kergoth | they use my project, openembedded, to maintain their distribution for their testing and such |
| 20:15.18 | Fritti | oh I didn't know they made linux devices? I thought they were a software only company |
| 20:15.28 | Fritti | or only for the n800? |
| 20:15.44 | kergoth | they are a software only company, they did some work on the software stack for nokia |
| 20:15.51 | Fritti | ah, right |
| 20:16.21 | Mecdemort | who develops WAU? |
| 20:16.33 | trh | mecdemort: 1.9x = sylvanaar |
| 20:16.52 | kergoth | hmm, for a fast offhand fist weapon for a combat build, are there any one can obtain pre-kara, other than arena? |
| 20:17.13 | Mecdemort | trh: ty |
| 20:17.45 | Gnarfoz | kergoth: yes, but who wants fists? :> |
| 20:17.59 | trh | kergoth: what does "fast" mean? =) |
| 20:18.07 | trh | kergoth: there are some 2.5 and 2.6 but nothing faster |
| 20:18.07 | Gnarfoz | fast enough for off-hand use? :> |
| 20:18.16 | Gnarfoz | no there are faster ones |
| 20:18.21 | Gnarfoz | 1.6 |
| 20:18.34 | trh | one |
| 20:18.36 | Gnarfoz | kergoth: http://shadowpanther.net/fists.htm (shadowpanther.net rocks :>) |
| 20:18.41 | trh | http://www.wowhead.com/?item=28315 |
| 20:18.44 | kergoth | hmm, maybe i'll just go swords then. was thinking about picking up the bladefist out of sh heroic for my mh |
| 20:18.54 | Amadeo | Come on guys, what do you think? Orc or Tauren Hunter? :P |
| 20:19.00 | Gnarfoz | Amadeo: warlock |
| 20:19.03 | Amadeo | I have one |
| 20:19.09 | trh | Amadeo: orcs smash! |
| 20:19.19 | kergoth | trh, good point, thatd work for now.. forgot about that one |
| 20:19.21 | trh | Amadeo: but for pvp the stun and hp bonus is pretty nice too |
| 20:19.26 | Amadeo | I know :( |
| 20:19.27 | Amadeo | it's hard! |
| 20:19.45 | trh | Amadeo: the orc active skill with +ap sucks a littlebit in pvp |
| 20:19.50 | trh | Amadeo: due to -healing |
| 20:19.59 | Speeddymon | durcyn: posted it to the thread you started. Will that get it uploaded, or will it just sit in the forums for eternity? |
| 20:20.04 | Amadeo | yeah, that can be true |
| 20:20.10 | Gnarfoz | kergoth: pve or pvp, anyway? |
| 20:20.19 | trh | Amadeo: but if you go BM the 5% pet damage are awesome |
| 20:20.30 | kergoth | my rogue's all pve currently |
| 20:20.36 | trh | Amadeo: so it depends on your planned talent spec :) |
| 20:20.36 | Speeddymon | Actually, thinking about it in retrospect, I'd like to take over maintenance of the addon, I have some ideas for it |
| 20:20.44 | kergoth | but his weapons suck ass, so gotta figure out what i'm gonna do there :) |
| 20:20.44 | trh | Amadeo: BM = orc, MM/survival = tauren |
| 20:20.52 | Speeddymon | I'll let Kaelten know and see what he sayd |
| 20:20.52 | Amadeo | I don't really care for BM |
| 20:20.54 | Speeddymon | says*\ |
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| 20:20.56 | durcyn | Speeddymon: put that in a new svn request |
| 20:21.11 | trh | Amadeo: BM is a great 2v2, 3v3 and PVE spec :) |
| 20:21.36 | Amadeo | Isn't Marksmanship great for that too? :D |
| 20:21.37 | trh | Amadeo: sucks imo for 5v5 and battlegrounds |
| 20:21.47 | Gnarfoz | kergoth: I still prefer swords for pve, but if you have trouble finding gear, I can only recommend checking out www.shadowpanther.net to see what's out there ;) |
| 20:21.54 | kergoth | thanks |
| 20:21.55 | trh | Amadeo: nope.. as a MM you get owned in every 2v2 and 3v3 match > 1600 rating |
| 20:21.59 | Amadeo | :( |
| 20:22.03 | trh | Amadeo: thanks due to pillar running |
| 20:22.07 | Amadeo | True.. |
| 20:22.17 | trh | Amadeo: you need 8yd range, so have to run a wider radius then the runner |
| 20:22.22 | CIA-22 | 03syntherift * r45128 10/branches/Numen/ (. options.txt): |
| 20:22.22 | CIA-22 | Numen: |
| 20:22.22 | CIA-22 | - Added options.txt (options template/useful info) |
| 20:22.29 | trh | Amadeo: there are people who run 30 MINUTES (!) away from you |
| 20:22.35 | trh | Amadeo: and you basically can't do anything |
| 20:22.47 | Amadeo | I hate the newest Lordaeron Arena |
| 20:22.50 | Amadeo | or whatever it is |
| 20:22.57 | Amadeo | people run around that middle part and you can never heal them |
| 20:23.22 | trh | Amadeo: i hate the blade edge arena |
| 20:23.25 | Amadeo | That too |
| 20:23.26 | trh | worst hunter arena ever |
| 20:23.49 | Amadeo | sounds like Orcs have it good overall, I doubt Warstomp is going to save me if I'm going down anyway |
| 20:23.50 | trh | i'm guessing blizzards CEO plays a warlock and his ex-wife a hunter |
| 20:24.02 | trh | Amadeo: uh.. it can save your ass |
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| 20:25.10 | trh | Amadeo: for pvp it's mostly a what you like more decision IMO |
| 20:25.20 | trh | Amadeo: for pve it's clearly orc |
| 20:25.39 | Amadeo | hm |
| 20:26.46 | Gnarfoz | I can only contribute "play one you like to look at" to that |
| 20:27.11 | Amadeo | that part never really bothered me |
| 20:27.20 | Gnarfoz | guess you'll be fine then ^^ |
| 20:27.20 | Amadeo | only when I start looking like a rainbow from lame armor |
| 20:27.32 | Gnarfoz | I know people who rerolled their chars (same class, different race) because they hated the combat animations |
| 20:27.37 | trh | well.. i'd have to kill myself if i'd have to look at a gay male human paladin or night elf |
| 20:27.42 | trh | (or BE) |
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| 20:28.07 | Amadeo | haha |
| 20:28.18 | Amadeo | the only thing I ever regret is not having the abilities I want |
| 20:28.29 | Amadeo | so this Orc vs Tauren thing sucks :P |
| 20:28.36 | Gnarfoz | oh how I hated myself while weapon skill was still valuable for not having a human rogue :D |
| 20:28.43 | trh | Amadeo: do a /random 100 :) |
| 20:28.55 | Amadeo | hahah |
| 20:29.04 | Amadeo | which is which? |
| 20:29.15 | trh | 1-50 = orc, 51-100 = tauren |
| 20:29.26 | trh | make 3 rolls |
| 20:29.32 | trh | what comes up most often is your new race :P |
| 20:30.16 | Amadeo | 40, 89, 32 |
| 20:30.16 | Amadeo | lol |
| 20:30.22 | trh | so orc it is :P |
| 20:30.32 | Amadeo | how much AP does that orc buff add? |
| 20:30.39 | trh | the blizzard random generator has spoken |
| 20:31.03 | trh | good question.. let me look |
| 20:31.36 | trh | 282 |
| 20:31.45 | Amadeo | 282's not bad |
| 20:31.51 | trh | but -50% healing |
| 20:31.54 | Amadeo | yeah |
| 20:31.58 | Amadeo | MS yourself |
| 20:32.07 | trh | it's ok in pvp when no one is hitting on you |
| 20:32.14 | trh | but that only happens in 5v5 |
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| 20:32.48 | Amadeo | what do you play? |
| 20:32.51 | trh | orc! |
| 20:32.59 | Amadeo | regrets? :) |
| 20:33.15 | trh | started when their abilities sucked (blood fury only adding meelee ap :) |
| 20:33.25 | trh | no :) |
| 20:33.36 | Amadeo | that works then |
| 20:34.08 | trh | the +hp would be nice, but i guess it negates only the damage you get more by being targetted more often due to size |
| 20:34.53 | Fisker- | nymbia |
| 20:34.54 | Fisker- | you here? |
| 20:35.26 | Fisker- | ~seen nymbia |
| 20:35.49 | purl | nymbia is currently on #wowi-lounge (44m 7s) #wowace (44m 7s), last said: 'ZealotOnAStick: ok, that's the one then. quickfix would be to just drop the ## X-LoadOn-Slash:line in the toc'. |
| 20:35.49 | Amadeo | I wonder if size and targetting even makes a difference...everyone says it, but I've personally never found myself targetting a larger player over a gnome, I just go after whatever I need to be |
| 20:37.04 | CIA-22 | 03ktrigger * r45129 10/branches/Numen/ (. Numen.lua locales/enUS.lua): |
| 20:37.04 | CIA-22 | Numen: |
| 20:37.04 | CIA-22 | - Added externals. Removed existing code from lua. |
| 20:37.10 | trh | Amadeo: i have problems targetting those little bastards |
| 20:37.18 | trh | death to all the gnomes |
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| 20:37.34 | kergoth | lol |
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| 20:38.01 | trh | i sometimes gank gnomes just because they are gnomes |
| 20:38.19 | Amadeo | I only kill the gnomes with pink hair, because they're all guys in real life |
| 20:39.05 | trh | every dead gnome is a good gnome! |
| 20:39.32 | trh | *spreads gnome hatred* |
| 20:39.55 | Neebler | you're a bad person |
| 20:39.57 | Fisker- | i kill nymbia\s |
| 20:40.05 | Fisker- | s/nymbia\s/nymbia's/ |
| 20:40.08 | trh | hmm.. i wonder if 'redhat' was derived from hatred :) |
| 20:40.12 | trh | would fit... :P |
| 20:40.35 | trh | Neebler: true :P |
| 20:40.47 | Neebler | as in someone who finds exploits and vulnerabilities in systems |
| 20:41.04 | nymbia | ~smite Fisker- |
| 20:41.13 | purl | ACTION wields the mighty blade of Argothax and cleaves Fisker- from crown to sole. |
| 20:41.28 | Fisker- | oh hi |
| 20:41.31 | Fisker- | you made sniff right? |
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| 20:41.39 | nymbia | yea |
| 20:41.53 | Fisker- | can you make it stop failing? |
| 20:42.02 | break19 | heh |
| 20:42.04 | nymbia | nope! |
| 20:42.07 | Fisker- | When you sniff an invalid item it will keep it in the cache until you restart WoW |
| 20:42.17 | Fisker- | so the next query against same item will result in a lua error |
| 20:42.22 | break19 | vhaarr: el pingo |
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| 20:43.18 | break19 | vhaarr: el pingo |
| 20:43.45 | break19 | damn, must just be an auto-reconnecter :/ |
| 20:45.47 | break19 | someone familiar with Sink, tell me this.. lets assume I want to make a sticky message, using the default size, default font, and the rgb values of 1,1,0 |
| 20:45.59 | vhaarr_ | break19: pong |
| 20:46.02 | break19 | there he is |
| 20:46.46 | break19 | vhaarr_: according to the comments in the code, there's docs at wiki.wowace.com - lies and falsifications! |
| 20:46.58 | Fisker- | nymbia anyway to fix it? :O |
| 20:47.01 | Neebler | quartz caused me to lose my #1 dps spot to a warlock, after showing it to one in my guild |
| 20:47.09 | vhaarr_ | break19: lies indeed |
| 20:47.18 | Fisker- | ownt Neebler |
| 20:47.26 | Neebler | viva la netcode |
| 20:47.48 | Neebler | I wish wow's netcode was like a FPS's |
| 20:48.04 | nymbia | Fisker-: what error does it throw |
| 20:48.05 | break19 | vhaarr_: so whats the api for pour ? |
| 20:48.07 | vithos | i wish wow's netcode wasn't retarded |
| 20:48.13 | Neebler | where stuff actually registers depending on your ping |
| 20:48.28 | break19 | and no.. I cant figure it out by reading the code.. I suck at reading code. heh |
| 20:48.28 | trh | there is netcode alot worse than wow's |
| 20:48.41 | Fisker- | sec nymbia |
| 20:49.02 | break19 | and just slightly worse, at writing it.. but thats neither here nor there. :p |
| 20:49.09 | ccKep | hmhmhm, is there an easy way to remove the spell names from parrot messages without going through each event and changing the tag? |
| 20:49.20 | Fisker- | [2007/07/28 22:48:49-1524-x2]: Sniff-1.0\Sniff.lua:52: attempt to index local 'link' (a nil value) |
| 20:49.21 | Neebler | newp |
| 20:49.31 | Fritti | hmm... which ace addon allows you to type [item] in a chat window and then makes it a clickable link? I lost that somewhere along the way and I can't find it in an updated Prat |
| 20:49.37 | vhaarr_ | break19: addon, text, r, g, b, font, size, outline, sticky, loc, icon |
| 20:49.41 | vhaarr_ | -addon |
| 20:50.05 | Neebler | fritti it's called itemlink, it's in prat |
| 20:50.15 | break19 | and if I just nil one, it assumes the default? |
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| 20:50.28 | vhaarr_ | break19: should, yes |
| 20:50.30 | break19 | kk |
| 20:51.31 | ccKep | so, no way of hiding the spell names in all parrot events? :/ |
| 20:51.47 | break19 | sink:pour("My Lame Sticky Message",1,1,0,nil,nil,nil,true,nil,nil) would be a yellow sticky? |
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| 20:53.24 | durcyn | don't use sink: |
| 20:53.32 | durcyn | mix the library properly and self:Pour |
| 20:53.41 | break19 | k |
| 20:56.45 | DarkImakuni | I have a small problem which is beginning to get on my nerves... I have a registered Tablet tooltip. I open it using an icon on FuBar and everthing's fine. But when I close it and re-open it using the icon the tooltip is completely empty. Any ideas? |
| 20:57.05 | Antiarc | DarkImakuni: Your OnTooltipUpdate set properly? |
| 20:57.28 | DarkImakuni | It's seperate from the FuBar tooltip |
| 20:57.57 | DarkImakuni | by "using an" I meant, by clicking on it :P |
| 20:58.52 | Fritti | Neebler: thanks but I don't see ItemLink in my Prat ... o_O |
| 20:59.09 | Fritti | only 'ChatLink' but that appears to enable recieving chatlinks |
| 20:59.12 | NM|Xinhuan|Guru2 | what do i do if my dns server seems to have died? (lol) |
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| 21:02.52 | Fisker- | man |
| 21:03.01 | Fisker- | that's the second thread nominating me as a mvp |
| 21:03.06 | Fisker- | people on the eu forums are insane |
| 21:03.23 | Hjalte | Yeah, they are :p |
| 21:04.13 | Antiarc | Most Villanous Poster? |
| 21:05.34 | Fisker- | if only it were so |
| 21:05.44 | CIA-22 | 03break19 * r45130 10EnvenomX/ (EnvenomX.toc core.lua libs/): |
| 21:05.44 | CIA-22 | EnvenomX |
| 21:05.44 | CIA-22 | - Now uses SinkLib instead of Soar (Soar is being/has been deprecated) |
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| 21:06.09 | ag` | hahaha, Fisker- as mvp |
| 21:06.21 | ag` | are you even playing the game anymore? :O |
| 21:07.02 | break19 | if anyone is feeling very bored, and wants to look over my itty bitty addon, and give me some tips.. I'd be most appreciative :) |
| 21:07.06 | Fisker- | are the mvp's? :P |
| 21:07.26 | ag` | I don't know, why the hell would they be on the forums if they aren't |
| 21:07.50 | break19 | well.. fisker's readin the forums... so... |
| 21:07.54 | ag` | pay 10 euros a month for a forums where old jokes are new? |
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| 21:07.56 | *** mode/#wowace [+o ckknight] by ChanServ |
| 21:08.00 | Fisker- | one of them were like level 17 for ages |
| 21:08.16 | ag` | Isn't that just an alt probably |
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| 21:08.38 | Fisker- | i think he claimed it was his main and leveled it some months after |
| 21:08.48 | ag` | -_-;; |
| 21:08.57 | Fisker- | just ;_; nub |
| 21:09.12 | ag` | nah, your guy is crying |
| 21:09.22 | Fisker- | so is you |
| 21:09.46 | ag` | :( |
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| 21:11.51 | ag` | (>_<)â—‹------(^o^)â—‹ |
| 21:12.04 | ag` | punch! |
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| 21:12.53 | ckknight | hey, it's ag` |
| 21:13.16 | ag` | hey hey ckknight |
| 21:13.35 | ckknight | holy hell, it took me over an hour to do my resume and list all my addons |
| 21:14.20 | ccKep | ckknight: any way to hide the spell name in all events in parrot? or do I have to go through each event and edit the tag? |
| 21:14.29 | ckknight | edit the tag |
| 21:14.34 | ckknight | really, there's not too many |
| 21:14.36 | ag` | you wrote that many? hehe, never thought of putting addons on the resume :D |
| 21:14.46 | ckknight | ag`: it was requested |
| 21:14.53 | Fisker- | so ya hear me nymbia? |
| 21:14.56 | ckknight | ag`: I have 31 addons/libraries attributed to me |
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| 21:15.09 | Amadeo | Hm, WoW's been freezing up a lot for me lately |
| 21:15.12 | ckknight | and like how I am, I had to describe the modules of each |
| 21:15.13 | Amadeo | but it doesn't happen on PTR |
| 21:15.22 | ckknight | Amadeo: wait for PTR? |
| 21:15.23 | ckknight | :-P |
| 21:15.25 | ag` | requested by whom, now that you brought up the topic yourself |
| 21:15.27 | ag` | :) |
| 21:15.27 | Amadeo | haha |
| 21:15.51 | ccKep | and another 2 thingies ckknight |
| 21:15.57 | nymbia | Fisker-: yeah, should be a quick fix, gimme a minute |
| 21:16.09 | ckknight | ag`: guy on the forum offered a job |
| 21:16.12 | ccKep | I created a new scroll area, changed its name, and then I receive an error if I select it in the list.. lemme grab the error |
| 21:16.28 | ckknight | ccKep: newest revision? |
| 21:16.35 | ccKep | yay |
| 21:16.38 | ccKep | atleast I think |
| 21:16.41 | ccKep | sec. |
| 21:16.50 | ag` | Is it like, "do an addon for me", or "my company will employ you" |
| 21:17.31 | ccKep | 44591 |
| 21:17.46 | ccKep | meh... |
| 21:17.53 | ckknight | company will employ you full-time long-term, ag` |
| 21:18.00 | ckknight | gotta move to Texas, though |
| 21:18.13 | BankZ | damn, did hotman get broke? |
| 21:18.48 | ccKep | hm |
| 21:18.55 | ckknight | ag`: to basically have a Slouken-style job |
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| 21:19.05 | ag` | for a game company? |
| 21:19.11 | ckknight | yep |
| 21:19.16 | ag` | neat |
| 21:19.16 | ccKep | Parrot\Code\Parrot.lua says local VERSION = tonumber(("$Revision: 44591 $"):match("%d+")) |
| 21:19.19 | ckknight | mmo to be announced next year |
| 21:19.20 | BankZ | Message: ..\AddOns\HotMan\HotMan.lua line 12: attempt to index global 'ParserLib' (a nil value |
| 21:19.23 | ccKep | but WAU says I have 44900? |
| 21:19.27 | ag` | and you get to wear cowboy hats too |
| 21:19.44 | ckknight | ccKep: there's multiple files |
| 21:19.44 | ckknight | ccKep: bah, I gotta go |
| 21:19.49 | ccKep | anyway, newest revision then |
| 21:19.56 | ccKep | want to have the line# for the error? |
| 21:19.58 | Thrae | ckknight: Technically, slouken's job is in the graphics engine, not UI ;) |
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| 21:20.20 | ag` | ckknight, awesome. Wow's ability to use addons is like the biggest reason I play it still |
| 21:20.24 | ckknight | you sure, Thrae? |
| 21:20.48 | ag` | so another MMO with the same approach sure is welcome |
| 21:21.15 | trh | ncsoft :/ |
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| 21:21.29 | trh | worst grinding mmo ever made ;) |
| 21:21.36 | trh | (lineage 2 / 1) |
| 21:21.52 | ag` | I'm going through some bad grinding now in wow |
| 21:21.53 | ccKep | ckknight: ScrollAreas.lua line 326, attempt to index field '?' (a nil value) ^^ |
| 21:22.14 | Thrae | ckknight: Yep. slouken is the main force behind SDL. slouken just wanted to implement Lua into the WoW UI, and added to his own responsibilities. All of what he does with the UI he is adding on top of the job he applied for. |
| 21:22.25 | trh | ag`: let's say: wow level 1-70 are about level 1-40 in lineage2, and it goes up to 80 in lineage2 exponentially increased every level ;) |
| 21:22.45 | trh | ag`: 10% xp loss on every death |
| 21:22.53 | trh | ag`: chance to lose 2 month farming of weapon/armor |
| 21:23.01 | trh | ag`: and so on |
| 21:23.13 | ag` | sounds way to pve-hardcore |
| 21:23.14 | Amadeo | Worse than early EQ? |
| 21:23.20 | trh | alot worse |
| 21:23.28 | Amadeo | I dunno! |
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| 21:23.41 | ag` | I am more into full-loot pvp games and players building own cities and real politics |
| 21:23.43 | Amadeo | Early EQ, your corpse would get stuck under the terrain and you'd lose all your gear :P |
| 21:23.49 | trh | Amadeo: you didn't even had a way to regain mana..except for waiting 5 minutes |
| 21:23.58 | Thrae | ckknight: http://www.devolution.com/~slouken/resume/index.html (not like its secret, hehe...first hit in google) |
| 21:24.04 | NightHawkTheSane | http://www.kitty-bot.com/news_pics/metroidjelly.jpg |
| 21:24.05 | ag` | unfortunately there's no good game out like it, except for perhaps EVE... But fuck EVE. |
| 21:24.06 | Amadeo | trh: Reminds me of "Meditate" :) |
| 21:24.06 | trh | Amadeo: so it's 10 minutes killing a few mobs, running to a safe-place waiting 5 minutes to get mana |
| 21:24.17 | trh | Amadeo: meditate was faster in UO =) |
| 21:24.23 | vithos | ckknight: cowtip's frame tooltip positioning seems to be off quite a bit after you change it with the orange draggy thing |
| 21:24.23 | Amadeo | not UO, EQ! |
| 21:24.26 | Amadeo | hehe |
| 21:24.29 | Amadeo | I didn't play UO |
| 21:24.35 | trh | ah.. there was a meditate in uo too :) |
| 21:24.49 | trh | i loved the (illegal) scripting addon for UO :) |
| 21:25.16 | Amadeo | NightHawkTheSane: heheh |
| 21:25.31 | ag` | Hey, who knew Slouken worked for Loki |
| 21:25.45 | ag` | they hire him and still don't release a linux client? :< |
| 21:27.17 | Saroz | Lead Software Engineer, Game Systems:! |
| 21:27.22 | trh | ag`: not enough people and way to many work for QA to test it in different distributions/with different configurations :) |
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| 21:27.31 | kergoth | hmm, wonder how long itd take me to try to get arena weapons, given i'm a pvp noob |
| 21:27.39 | Saroz | Slouken got promoted! |
| 21:27.46 | ag` | yeah, in feb |
| 21:27.49 | Saroz | ye |
| 21:27.53 | trh | kergoth: worst case: 4 weeks, create new team every week, invite 4 poeple, lose 10 games ;) |
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| 21:28.10 | trh | kergoth: get ~1400 rating, therefore like 3xx arena points a week |
| 21:28.17 | ag` | It's impossible to get below 400 points each week |
| 21:28.23 | Saroz | http://www.wowwiki.com/Slouken ! |
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| 21:28.28 | trh | kergoth: err.. 5 weeks for the lowest weapon ;) |
| 21:28.36 | kergoth | hehe, okay, thats not too bad |
| 21:29.23 | ag` | oh lol, Slouken is the primary developer of SDL? |
| 21:29.25 | Saroz | " FYI, we're working on something for 2.3 to help make /stopcasting lag workarounds unnecessary. " cool |
| 21:29.36 | ckknight | Thrae: yea, he's a game programmer now, not a graphics engineer |
| 21:29.41 | ckknight | Thrae: I knew he made SDL |
| 21:30.11 | ag` | Saroz, sounds nice. I can't get myself to do those lame macros |
| 21:30.22 | ag` | I am a bit of a button spammer myself too |
| 21:30.28 | Saroz | " The Commentator APIs are not going to be generally available, FYI." wtf is that? |
| 21:30.28 | ag` | so I would just end up cancelling my spells |
| 21:30.40 | Saroz | ah the spectator |
| 21:30.46 | ag` | spectator? |
| 21:30.47 | ccKep | ckknight: looks like getPositionX(k) gets called with the old key after renaming a scroll area |
| 21:30.48 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r45131 10Parrot/Code/ScrollAreas.lua: Parrot_ScrollAreas - bugfix with positions. |
| 21:30.49 | ag` | for arenas? |
| 21:30.52 | Thrae | ckknight: "game programmer" is a general term. The graphics/environment engine is by far the biggest part of WoW. I've worked on 3D projects before, and the graphics engines have always been HUGE. |
| 21:30.53 | Saroz | yea |
| 21:30.54 | ccKep | aye |
| 21:31.13 | ckknight | ccKep: fixed |
| 21:31.16 | Thrae | WoW Client, of course |
| 21:31.18 | ckknight | Thrae: hrm, *shrug* |
| 21:31.37 | Thrae | Just the particle engine is a PITA |
| 21:31.46 | Antiarc | Particle engines aren't -too- bad |
| 21:31.48 | ckknight | Thrae: well, the job I'm applying for is "UI Designer" |
| 21:31.56 | Antiarc | You just need a decent billboard manager. |
| 21:31.56 | Fisker- | nymbia minute is WAY over :o |
| 21:31.56 | Saroz | hrmm ckknight, slouken replied to your combat log parse post |
| 21:31.57 | Fisker- | :P |
| 21:32.02 | ckknight | Saroz: link? |
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| 21:32.08 | Saroz | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=174616076&sid=1 |
| 21:32.11 | nymbia | Fisker-: nope! |
| 21:32.12 | ckknight | Saroz: or was it just the 2.4 message? |
| 21:32.15 | Saroz | yea |
| 21:32.17 | Fisker- | oh |
| 21:32.21 | Fisker- | i see what you did there |
| 21:32.23 | ccKep | and the other thing (don't know if it's related): if you enable configuration mode, and see the orange frames, they don't move to the location you specify in the position field, but the text moves to it |
| 21:32.25 | Fisker- | time dialation field |
| 21:32.30 | nymbia | yup |
| 21:32.35 | Fisker- | clever |
| 21:32.41 | nymbia | you know it |
| 21:34.21 | ckknight | Saroz: I find it funny that people say I'm not human, that I'm either a robot or multiple monkeys |
| 21:34.45 | ag` | ah lol, he's talking about 2.4 |
| 21:34.55 | ag` | that's half a year away |
| 21:35.01 | ckknight | ag`: ugh, yep |
| 21:35.22 | CIA-22 | 03ktrigger * r45132 10/branches/Numen/Numen.lua: |
| 21:35.22 | CIA-22 | Numen: |
| 21:35.22 | CIA-22 | - Fixed load error. |
| 21:35.25 | Thrae | ckknight: Robots are logical beings. You're the most human thing I have ever encountered. |
| 21:35.31 | Saroz | ckknight, man I said this like 6 months ago.. everything you touch turns to gold |
| 21:35.39 | ckknight | even poo |
| 21:35.42 | Saroz | yes |
| 21:35.48 | Saroz | golden poo, try it |
| 21:35.51 | NightHawkTheSane | ckknight: my vote is for multiple monkeys. |
| 21:35.53 | ag` | actually I am a bit unhappy with their minor point release speed |
| 21:35.53 | trh | ckknight touches poo? |
| 21:36.00 | trh | that's DISGUSTING |
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| 21:36.16 | Thrae | trh: Makes sense if ckknight is made up of multiple monkeys ;) |
| 21:36.29 | ag` | how long ago did they release 2.0? |
| 21:36.31 | baer_ | 'lo |
| 21:36.34 | Saroz | " Could it be the disabling of threat meters ..." hrrrmmm |
| 21:36.34 | NightHawkTheSane | that's a line waiting to be takenoutof context. |
| 21:36.34 | Thrae | 17:41 * ckknight rubs vigorously <-- it's fun to take things out of context! |
| 21:36.38 | Saroz | how would they nuke threat meters |
| 21:36.39 | ckknight | ag`: January |
| 21:36.42 | NightHawkTheSane | Thrae: :D |
| 21:36.44 | ckknight | Thrae: lol |
| 21:37.03 | NightHawkTheSane | ag`: um. 8ish months? |
| 21:37.28 | Antiarc | They could make threat meters harder to write by randomizing important threat bits |
| 21:37.33 | Antiarc | But they can't do too much, really |
| 21:37.38 | ckknight | if I go to work for an MMO company, you know that I'd basically just merge in Babble/Dewdrop/etc. into the game code :-P |
| 21:37.43 | ckknight | and I will have accomplished it |
| 21:37.47 | ckknight | I will have Ace'd WoW |
| 21:37.48 | ckknight | :-P |
| 21:37.53 | Saroz | cant really, people need to know how to generate threat, so |
| 21:37.55 | ckknight | lulz |
| 21:38.08 | baer_ | Saroz, you want omen, not ktm :-D |
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| 21:38.15 | Saroz | I got Omen |
| 21:38.18 | Saroz | kthx |
| 21:38.45 | Saroz | if ckknight got hired by Blizzard he would just become corrupt and not make addons for us anymore |
| 21:39.11 | ag` | he'd sabotage ktm |
| 21:39.16 | Saroz | lmao |
| 21:39.24 | ag` | and ct addons |
| 21:39.30 | Saroz | no but seriously |
| 21:41.10 | ag` | Mmm, did blizzard release minor point patches with a 2-3 months of space before BC? |
| 21:41.29 | ag` | It just seems to as if they've slowed down :( |
| 21:41.40 | Kaydeethree | nov 2004 1.1 to dec 2006 2.0 |
| 21:41.47 | Saroz | well, major patch releases are released based on content, not code. |
| 21:41.59 | Kaydeethree | except that there's no major content in 2.2... |
| 21:42.21 | ag` | major.minor.bleh |
| 21:45.40 | ag` | Wouldn't it be easy to break threat meters |
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| 21:45.49 | ag` | all they have do it is make it just a bit more complex |
| 21:50.45 | Antiarc | Well, the problem is that threat has to be predictable, or else it screw those without meters |
| 21:50.54 | Antiarc | If threat's predictable by a human, you can model it with code |
| 21:52.22 | Fisker- | just rnd(1,10000) on everything |
| 21:52.29 | Fisker- | no threatmeters EVER |
| 21:52.49 | ag` | that would just be totally fucked |
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| 21:53.02 | Arrowmaster | all they would really have to do is change all the % threat reduction abilitys that bosses do to be a % range |
| 21:54.54 | ccKep | people would assume max reduction % and be fine again (more or less) |
| 21:55.15 | Saroz | Worldofwar.net released a "leaked" schedule of the Blizzcon. The only interesting thing is the "Opening ceremony" which has 90% chances to be the announcement of the expansion. |
| 21:55.16 | Saroz | OH COME ON |
| 21:55.25 | Saroz | I havnt even entered Hyjal yet |
| 21:55.44 | Arrowmaster | i havent even fought al'ar yet |
| 21:56.38 | ckknight | I haven't even gotten to 60 yet |
| 21:56.44 | Thrae | Blizzard: Welcome to BlizzCon! Our first announcement will be that of the expansion, where all the top-end gear from Outlands will be replaced by green drops in the first dungeons within the expansion. |
| 21:56.56 | ccKep | hope they anounce a date for zul'aman, really looking forward to it |
| 21:56.58 | Kaydeethree | except that wasn't true of the burning crusade |
| 21:57.00 | Starinnia | they need to put something out to run against Warhammer |
| 21:57.06 | Thrae | ckknight: Me neither |
| 21:57.09 | Kaydeethree | I'm still wearing a piece of T3 because I've been unlucky with drops |
| 21:57.12 | Thrae | !c us maelstrom thrae |
| 21:57.15 | ThraeBot | Thrae: Thrae, Level 59 Night Elf Druid (1/41/8). 4043 HP; 2899 Mana; 101 mana regen; 91.6 Melee DPS; 14.25% melee crit; 96 +heal; 19.62% dodge; +15 all resists (+10 nature); [[ Link: http://tinyurl.com/2nf4c2 ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/3y7gvx ]] |
| 21:57.43 | Saroz | !c eu Kul Tiras Saroz |
| 21:57.46 | ThraeBot | Saroz: Saroz, Level 70 Human Paladin (8/53/0). 10577 HP; 6603 Mana; 89 mana regen; 15076 Armour; 86.6 Melee DPS; 4.65% melee crit; 25 spell crit; 390 +spell dmg/heal; 349 defense; 22.71% dodge; 24.24% block; [[ Link: http://tinyurl.com/yqagb6 ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/32pyzl ]] |
| 21:57.50 | Saroz | uh cool |
| 21:57.50 | Chompers | i want them to update naxx, i've never been there before |
| 21:57.51 | CIA-22 | 03nymbia * r45133 10Sniff/Sniff.lua: |
| 21:57.51 | CIA-22 | Sniff: |
| 21:57.51 | CIA-22 | - Maybe fix a bug, maybe break everything. |
| 21:57.51 | CIA-22 | - Fisker- is bad. |
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| 21:58.04 | Chompers | it looks interesting |
| 21:58.07 | Thrae | Saroz: Hehe, Tankadin |
| 21:58.18 | Saroz | prot every weekending to MT kara :p |
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| 21:58.22 | Saroz | holy rest of the time |
| 21:58.27 | Saroz | weekend* |
| 21:59.06 | Saroz | hrm, which reminds me, gotta spec back |
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| 22:00.07 | ccKep | !c eu Blackhand Déie |
| 22:00.08 | ThraeBot | ccKep: Déie is not the character you are looking for! |
| 22:00.12 | ccKep | meh |
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| 22:00.44 | Chompers | how's TK going for you Saroz? |
| 22:00.49 | Chompers | well i hope |
| 22:03.47 | Fisker- | DUN DUN nymbia |
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| 22:07.12 | nymbia | Fisker-: worky? |
| 22:07.44 | Fisker- | yeah |
| 22:07.48 | nymbia | sweet |
| 22:07.50 | Fisker- | well it just doesn't throw an error though |
| 22:08.02 | nymbia | well |
| 22:08.04 | Fisker- | but atleast i can keep datamining other items |
| 22:08.26 | nymbia | i cant clear it from the wdb cache so that's the best its gonna do ;) |
| 22:09.06 | Fisker- | yeah |
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| 22:15.34 | Shirik | nymbia: You wrote quartz yeah? |
| 22:15.44 | [dRaCo] | yeah, he did. |
| 22:15.55 | [dRaCo] | but he doesnt want to code a wf cd module :( |
| 22:16.04 | Shirik | don't matter, I just wanted to point out a bug |
| 22:23.27 | charon | huh that's weird... i'm running arcatraz with that same fire mage with whom i had omen problems in mechanar |
| 22:23.34 | charon | he regularly shows 1.4-1.5kTPS |
| 22:23.37 | charon | is that normal? |
| 22:23.57 | Diao | is he going all out |
| 22:25.10 | [dRaCo] | all out, fully buffed, no salvation? |
| 22:25.38 | Diao | and no threat reduction talent |
| 22:25.54 | charon | no talent and no salvation |
| 22:26.14 | [dRaCo] | kick him for not having the talent ;þ |
| 22:26.25 | charon | i'm not sure what all out is these days, but he's definitely not holding back but there's no AoE either |
| 22:26.27 | [dRaCo] | but yeah, then 1.4k might be ok |
| 22:26.47 | [dRaCo] | 5 scorches, fireballs. |
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| 22:27.30 | Gnarfoz | does The Lurker Below enrage? |
| 22:27.34 | vhaarr_ | no |
| 22:27.43 | *** mode/#wowace [+o vhaarr] by ChanServ |
| 22:27.50 | Kaydeethree | just timered phases |
| 22:28.11 | Gnarfoz | thanks |
| 22:28.42 | charon | ah in that case... *shrug* |
| 22:29.23 | Saroz | Chompers, stuck on Vashj, killed Al'ar |
| 22:29.27 | Saroz | Vashj is a cunt |
| 22:29.27 | charon | and no i won't kick him. he's one of those players that practically guarantees a good run, no matter with which of his N characters he shows up ;) |
| 22:30.00 | kebinusan | [2007/07/28 17:50:30-2007-x8]: FuBar_tcgTradeskills\Cooldown.lua:358: attempt to call method 'Pour' (a nil value) |
| 22:30.22 | durcyn | kebinusan: and do you have SinkLib in the libs/ |
| 22:30.29 | kebinusan | no I have it standalone tho |
| 22:30.36 | CIA-22 | 03rabbit * r45135 10SinkLib/Sink-1.0/Sink-1.0.lua: |
| 22:30.36 | CIA-22 | .Sink-1.0: |
| 22:30.36 | CIA-22 | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:30.36 | CIA-22 | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:30.36 | CIA-22 | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:31.17 | vhaarr | tcgTradeskillsCooldowns = tcgTradeskills:NewModule("Cooldowns") |
| 22:31.18 | vhaarr | should be |
| 22:31.21 | vhaarr | tcgTradeskillsCooldowns = tcgTradeskills:NewModule("Cooldowns", "Sink-1.0") |
| 22:31.37 | vhaarr | Thiana: ^ |
| 22:32.19 | durcyn | that was my fuckup, actually |
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| 22:32.29 | durcyn | total acemodule noob |
| 22:32.30 | kebinusan | I can commit it |
| 22:32.33 | kebinusan | sec |
| 22:32.43 | CIA-22 | 03rabbit * r45136 10BigWigs/Plugins/Messages.lua: BigWigs: Messages: Register ourselves as a Sink-1.0 sink. |
| 22:32.57 | durcyn | knock yourself out, kebinusan |
| 22:33.44 | kebinusan | vhaarr, does sink have an option for sticky notifications? Itd be useful for boss warnings sent to scrolling combat text stuff |
| 22:33.51 | vhaarr | kebinusan: no, someone needs to add one |
| 22:34.51 | break19 | uhm.. why is prat showing some of my guildies as level 70, when a /who says they arent? |
| 22:35.28 | Thrae | ~emulate ckknight |
| 22:35.37 | purl | ACTION -- ERRO |
| 22:35.44 | Thrae | ~emulate ckknight |
| 22:35.45 | purl | <@ckknight> what do I get out of it? |
| 22:36.01 | Thrae | What the hell is ERRO. |
| 22:36.16 | ravagernl | ~ERRO |
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| 22:36.45 | break19 | hey vhaar, perhaps it should default to sending to the RW frame instead of chat? |
| 22:36.59 | vhaarr | break19: perhaps |
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| 22:38.50 | Saroz | vhaarr, can you add so you can decide which frame it outputs to in SCT? which scroll area |
| 22:38.58 | vhaarr | it does that |
| 22:39.06 | Saroz | oh, didnt see any option for it |
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| 22:40.48 | CIA-22 | 03kemayo * r45137 10AuldLangSyne/ (AuldLangSyne.lua Info/Info.lua): |
| 22:40.48 | CIA-22 | AuldLangSyne: |
| 22:40.48 | CIA-22 | -Info: Don't display a PVP rank of 0 as "Scout", even though the translation exists. |
| 22:40.59 | CIA-22 | 03kebinusan * r45138 10FuBar_tcgTradeskills/Cooldown.lua: FuBar_tcgTradeskills: Fix the sink |
| 22:41.15 | Antiarc | ckknight: If I wanted to make Parrot text move on a parabolic function (rather than a linear one), what's the right way to go about it? |
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| 22:42.55 | break19 | anyone with a rogue, thats high enough to have deadly poison (any rank) and envenom? if you're bored, give my addon a spin.. I need feedback. :) |
| 22:43.51 | art3mis | break: here's yer feedback, rogues suck poop stop making them stuff and level a priest ;) |
| 22:44.47 | break19 | art3mis: priests have too many addons already :p |
| 22:45.01 | NM|Xinhuan|Guru | priests also have 3x as many spells/abilities as rogues |
| 22:45.04 | NM|Xinhuan|Guru | ;) |
| 22:45.15 | art3mis | not any that completely remove the need for me to press buttons ;P |
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| 22:45.31 | break19 | I couldnt find an "envenom watcher" addon, or believe me.. I definitely wouldn't have written my own. lol |
| 22:45.33 | art3mis | no we dont |
| 22:45.44 | art3mis | 3 dots 2 spells and a shield ;P |
| 22:45.52 | Kilroo | I settled on a rogue because everything else sounded either too straightforward or too complicated for me to think it was fun. |
| 22:46.01 | art3mis | heh |
| 22:46.37 | Kilroo | And I never rolled an alt after complicated didn't intimidate me anymore, because I'm not much of an alt kind of a guy. |
| 22:46.52 | art3mis | yeah ive only got my main |
| 22:47.03 | art3mis | mostly because i just couldnt stand the idea of redoing everything all over |
| 22:47.10 | Kilroo | I think all-stealth parties are kinda fun. |
| 22:47.15 | break19 | ambush, mutilate, envenom (or evisc if not enough poisons) repeat step 2-3 as needed... stealth, select new target.. repeat |
| 22:47.19 | NM|Xinhuan|Guru | whats the highest known /played on a single char in wow? |
| 22:47.24 | Arrowmaster | my highest alt is a 57 rogue |
| 22:47.36 | Mudkips | NM|Xinhuan|Guru, I'd rather not know |
| 22:47.40 | Mudkips | they're probably some huge creep |
| 22:47.48 | Kilroo | bai, fud |
| 22:47.49 | break19 | throw a gouge in there to keep em from facing you, of course :p |
| 22:47.51 | NM|Xinhuan|Guru | i actually want to know, cos i just broke 400 days yesterday |
| 22:47.57 | NM|Xinhuan|Guru | on a single mage |
| 22:47.59 | Arrowmaster | wow |
| 22:48.07 | Mudkips | . . . |
| 22:48.11 | Kilroo | now start on a married mage |
| 22:48.13 | Arrowmaster | im only around 230+ on my warlock |
| 22:48.44 | break19 | 30 on my rogue :/ |
| 22:49.02 | NM|Xinhuan | armory doesn't display /played right? |
| 22:49.03 | NM|Xinhuan | lol |
| 22:50.00 | art3mis | 400 days? |
| 22:50.02 | art3mis | thats it? |
| 22:50.05 | art3mis | heh |
| 22:50.15 | NM|Xinhuan | yep - want to know if there's anyone one with more ;p |
| 22:50.19 | art3mis | thats a lot of idling in AV |
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| 22:50.38 | art3mis | im only 160 days |
| 22:50.47 | NM|Xinhuan | i've outgrown BGs tbh |
| 22:51.29 | art3mis | heh ive taken about 5 months off from playing |
| 22:51.32 | art3mis | maybe more |
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| 22:55.21 | ravagernl | wtb multiline texts support for pitbull/DogTag |
| 22:55.37 | ccKep | approx. 315 days or so if I count all my chars together ^.^ |
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| 23:02.08 | ravagernl | ckknight: Would it be possible to recreate this layout by use of PitBull and eePanels? http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/full2731.jpg |
| 23:03.26 | ravagernl | dreadlorde redid it for patch 2.0 but I cannot miss PitBull's features. |
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| 23:08.22 | ravagernl | ckknight: Is multilinesupport for pitbull texts even possible? maybe create a few extra anchors, for example topleft of black space and bottomleft of blacnk space |
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| 23:14.17 | ravagernl | ckknight: Have you read what I wrote? |
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| 23:15.01 | ckknight | bah |
| 23:15.23 | ravagernl | yes or no :P |
| 23:15.37 | ckknight | I have bigger issues, but no |
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| 23:16.21 | CIA-22 | 03syntherift * r45139 10/branches/Numen/Numen.lua: |
| 23:16.21 | CIA-22 | Numen: |
| 23:16.21 | CIA-22 | - Added Fubar Plugin |
| 23:17.09 | ccKep | bibi seems rather confident about the blizzcon opening ceremony :o |
| 23:17.31 | ckknight | ccKep: link? |
| 23:17.31 | Mudkips | T_T I should have bought a ticket |
| 23:17.48 | Mudkips | skipped comic con this year too |
| 23:17.55 | Mudkips | I'm so broke |
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| 23:18.58 | ccKep | ckknight: http://www.mmo-champion.com/ |
| 23:19.01 | ccKep | newest news |
| 23:19.38 | ckknight | bah, why does Colloquy suck so much |
| 23:19.49 | ckknight | I can see text in this channel but no other |
| 23:20.36 | CIA-22 | 03gamefaq * r45140 10Prat/Prat_Modules/modules/Alias.lua: Prat: deDE Update |
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| 23:21.25 | kebinusan | Instead of building a 700 mile wall to stop the border crossings, they should build a 700 mile wall mart. The workers just come in the back and the shoppers in the front |
| 23:21.48 | kebinusan | my guild as such amazing thinkers |
| 23:22.00 | kebinusan | oh guess he was quoting bill maher |
| 23:23.53 | CIA-22 | 03ktrigger * r45141 10/branches/Numen/ (. embeds.xml): |
| 23:23.53 | CIA-22 | Numen: |
| 23:23.53 | CIA-22 | - Fixed externals. |
| 23:27.47 | Adys | nymbia: ping |
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| 23:37.23 | Qanik | anyone using Yata here? got some questions |
| 23:37.33 | _Haldir | shoot |
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| 23:37.57 | Dustwhisper | So for someone relativly newbie at wowmodding, how much work would it be to say create a graphical timeline of all casts done by a specific class in a raid =D? |
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| 23:39.11 | Qanik | how do i change which totem is displayed on the first slot? |
| 23:39.39 | [dRaCo] | Qanik: create a new set |
| 23:40.08 | [dRaCo] | Dustwhisper: lotta work if you wanna do it for all classes |
| 23:40.35 | Dustwhisper | I'm only interested in doing it for mages |
| 23:40.37 | [dRaCo] | and it wouldnt be totally accurate since the combat log tends to drop some events |
| 23:40.45 | Dustwhisper | i just wanna follow their casting |
| 23:40.46 | Dustwhisper | and manapot usage |
| 23:40.48 | Dustwhisper | and evocation |
| 23:40.53 | Dustwhisper | and what kind of mana % they have when they do what |
| 23:40.59 | Dustwhisper | and compare that over all mages in raid |
| 23:41.10 | [dRaCo] | lots of work. |
| 23:41.26 | Qanik | call me dumd but i don't get it what to do with a set |
| 23:41.51 | Dustwhisper | hmm |
| 23:41.54 | Hjalte | ravagernl, Charcoal is sexy :D |
| 23:41.55 | [dRaCo] | Qanik: you can move the totems where you want them to be. |
| 23:42.12 | _Haldir | unlock the totembar, drag the icons around ;) |
| 23:42.13 | ravagernl | hjalte: yeah indeed it is |
| 23:42.24 | Dustwhisper | And I only thought i'd have to record all casts and mana% of each person and fill it into a keytable with corresponding time values then just draw a graph |
| 23:43.07 | Dustwhisper | by graph i mean timeline |
| 23:43.18 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r45142 10DogTag-1.0/DogTag-1.0/DogTag-1.0.lua: DogTag-1.0 - add tag [NumTargetting], giving the amount of group members (including yourself) who are targetting the specified unit. |
| 23:43.22 | [dRaCo] | you might wanna start with doing that for yourself only. |
| 23:43.31 | Qanik | ah ok thx [dRaCo] |
| 23:43.32 | ckknight | someone test that |
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| 23:44.13 | Amadeo | Anyone play on Auchindoun (US) |
| 23:44.21 | [dRaCo] | no |
| 23:44.24 | [dRaCo] | ;) |
| 23:44.48 | Amadeo | You're not even US! |
| 23:44.59 | [dRaCo] | got me. |
| 23:45.02 | Dustwhisper | yea [dRaCo] i'll try |
| 23:45.15 | Amadeo | trh__! |
| 23:45.17 | [dRaCo] | hint: graphlib ;) |
| 23:45.20 | Dustwhisper | My biggest problem really is i suck at this Lua crap =D and i get a bit confused when to ace2 or what libs etc |
| 23:45.24 | Dustwhisper | yea i saw graphlib |
| 23:45.44 | Dustwhisper | i dont want anything overly advanced, just a basic rectangle timeline where I can follow casts and usage and "zoom" a bit inn/out |
| 23:46.01 | [dRaCo] | you prolly need a parser |
| 23:46.14 | [dRaCo] | parser-3.0 or something |
| 23:46.21 | [dRaCo] | AceDB |
| 23:46.47 | [dRaCo] | and some gui-stuff. |
| 23:46.56 | Adys | is it possible for an addon to request an item's tooltip/link without going through the cache? |
| 23:47.09 | Adys | So it forces to check if the item is linkable on the current server |
| 23:47.38 | [dRaCo] | afaik yes, thought I found saw something like that in the pawn readme |
| 23:48.26 | Adys | aight |
| 23:48.55 | Dustwhisper | are there any other tutorials than the simple ones on wowace.com draco ? |
| 23:49.12 | Dustwhisper | never found any good ones about using eg graphs or making GUIs etc |
| 23:49.38 | [dRaCo] | guess it's learning by looking at other addon's code. |
| 23:52.28 | kebinusan | hmm, if anyone wants to donate http://cgi.liveauctions.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=52933&item=230155438774 |
| 23:52.31 | kebinusan | Id take that :-P |
| 23:53.22 | [dRaCo] | woot. |
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| 23:54.00 | doxxx | Good evening. |
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| 23:54.39 | doxxx | Anybody here who can fix a wee problem in FuBar_tcgTradeskills? |
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| 23:54.52 | doxxx | It seems to be missing SinkLib from it's embeds.xml |
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| 23:57.02 | Nirek | Is there an event that actually fires when someone comes online/goes offline? Working on a simple attendance tracker for my guild, hehe. |
| 23:58.08 | ckknight | Nirek: check RollCall |
| 23:58.31 | Dustwhisper | think i need to learn lua syntax, tables always elude me |
| 23:59.55 | doxxx | tables are somewhat confusing. they're both lists and maps. |
