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| 00:01.43 | Dustwhisper | yea i dont mind that it's just i am extremely poor/crap on the whole lua syntax and usage |
| 00:01.46 | Dustwhisper | btw http://www.wowace.com/downloads/AceDev-v1.2.zip doesnt seem to work for me |
| 00:02.29 | doxxx | where'd you find that link? |
| 00:02.40 | Dustwhisper | on the wiki |
| 00:03.07 | doxxx | page link? |
| 00:03.15 | Dustwhisper | http://wowace.com/wiki/AceGUI_Tutorial_-_Getting_Started |
| 00:03.48 | doxxx | Hmmm |
| 00:03.51 | Dustwhisper | oh ye that tutorial is probably for Ace1 and not Ace2 |
| 00:03.54 | Dustwhisper | so that wouldn't even help me |
| 00:03.54 | doxxx | "Do not use AceGUI, it is old, unmaintained and rotten." |
| 00:04.03 | doxxx | :) |
| 00:04.11 | Dustwhisper | aye |
| 00:04.21 | Dustwhisper | anything v1 should just be hidden/removed from WIKI D= |
| 00:04.26 | Dustwhisper | confusing =D |
| 00:04.39 | doxxx | heh |
| 00:04.46 | Dustwhisper | is there a development kit for Ace2 though? with examples, documentation etc |
| 00:05.06 | doxxx | Hmm not really. There's stuff on the wiki though |
| 00:05.34 | doxxx | http://www.wowace.com/wiki/WelcomeHome_-_Your_first_Ace2_Addon |
| 00:06.05 | doxxx | And there's documentation links for all the libraries linked from this page; http://www.wowace.com/wiki/Ace2 |
| 00:06.22 | Dustwhisper | ah ye followed that once |
| 00:06.30 | Dustwhisper | wasn't really GUI specific though =D |
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| 00:09.14 | doxxx | I suppose not. The base Ace stuff doesn't have very much GUI stuff in it. |
| 00:09.36 | doxxx | That falls to various other libraries in the wowace repo |
| 00:10.10 | doxxx | like Dewdrop is the dropdown menu library |
| 00:10.18 | doxxx | tablet is the tooltip ;library |
| 00:11.24 | Dustwhisper | hmm |
| 00:11.38 | doxxx | what GUI stuff are looking for in particular? |
| 00:11.38 | Dustwhisper | i guess by examining expiration and recount etc i might be able to hack something together |
| 00:11.53 | Dustwhisper | I want to create a simple window right with Fight IDs (based on time like any DPS meter) |
| 00:11.54 | doxxx | looking at other addons is one of the best ways to learn :) |
| 00:12.00 | Dustwhisper | then i want to create a simple rectangular timeline for each mage |
| 00:12.07 | Dustwhisper | that shows every cast they do and how much dmg it does |
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| 00:12.36 | Dustwhisper | With the brilliant name DPSNazi |
| 00:12.42 | Dustwhisper | Not to PC =D |
| 00:13.01 | doxxx | hmmm |
| 00:13.07 | doxxx | realtime or post-fight? |
| 00:13.30 | Dustwhisper | post-fight |
| 00:13.39 | Dustwhisper | and whenever if i ever get good id like to tie it inn with bosses aswell |
| 00:13.50 | Dustwhisper | to see exactly what boss-phase is at that moment of time |
| 00:13.54 | Trancer | Dustwhisper: have you checked recount? |
| 00:14.03 | Dustwhisper | yes using both recount and recap and swstats |
| 00:14.20 | Dustwhisper | just noticed yesterday that 2 mages did around 20-30 less casts in p1 of Al'ar than 2 other mages |
| 00:14.25 | Dustwhisper | which tells me there is some slack somewhere |
| 00:14.38 | Trancer | might very well be lack and no use of /stopcasting |
| 00:14.43 | Trancer | lag* |
| 00:14.48 | Dustwhisper | none of the mages use /stopcasting |
| 00:14.59 | Trancer | ... slap them with a stick till they get slapped silly |
| 00:15.03 | Dustwhisper | and i was personally sitting at 200-300 ms |
| 00:15.06 | Trancer | especially if they have lag |
| 00:15.10 | Dustwhisper | and still doing 30 more casts |
| 00:15.13 | Trancer | the more lag the better it becomes |
| 00:15.22 | Dustwhisper | well yes |
| 00:15.26 | kebinusan | Battlehistory used to do something like thathttp://wow.curse.com/downloads/details/3246 |
| 00:15.31 | Dustwhisper | but using stopcasting in a fight you are learning and killing for the first time |
| 00:15.32 | Arrowmaster | the less lag it becomes worse, possibly worse than not using it at all |
| 00:15.43 | Dustwhisper | is not a brilliant idea |
| 00:15.47 | Dustwhisper | to much to pay attention to |
| 00:15.56 | Trancer | Dustwhisper: sure, but stopcasting is just a type of playstyle, try to play with it for a week and you do it automagically |
| 00:16.05 | Dustwhisper | i use it for farmfights etc yes |
| 00:16.06 | Trancer | true, you focus more on castbar |
| 00:16.12 | Dustwhisper | and on al'ar p1 it's unecessary |
| 00:16.15 | kebinusan | Maybe we can see Cryectdo something like battlehistory into recount |
| 00:16.20 | Dustwhisper | it's better to sidestep to the right whenever you are in the quartz redzone |
| 00:16.22 | Trancer | that's why I made my castbar the size of a whale |
| 00:16.28 | Dustwhisper | so you can continue DPS between all 4 places without stopping |
| 00:16.48 | Dustwhisper | ah yes |
| 00:16.53 | Dustwhisper | that's exactly what i want to make kebinusan |
| 00:19.50 | Dustwhisper | btw Ace2 libs should they be loaded from root or be in addon folder ? |
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| 00:21.54 | Mecdemort | what exactly does RegisterBucketEvent do? the event library documentation is nonexistant |
| 00:22.18 | Fisker- | man |
| 00:22.22 | Antiarc | It collects all of those events that fire in a time period and then runs a handler once |
| 00:22.25 | Fisker- | they just removed 99% cool from SC2 |
| 00:22.28 | Fisker- | "Some units have been removed from the game to give way to new ones. The Firebat got axed." |
| 00:22.29 | Fisker- | QQ |
| 00:22.38 | Dustwhisper | are you kidding me ? |
| 00:22.58 | ag` | Fisker-, link |
| 00:23.02 | ag` | zomg the firebat |
| 00:23.27 | ag` | damn they own zerglings |
| 00:23.28 | Mecdemort | Antiarc: So instead of calling it every time the event fires it just calls it every delay seconds? |
| 00:23.35 | Fisker- | http://www.1up.com/do/feature?pager.offset=0&cId=3161564 |
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| 00:23.53 | Antiarc | Kinda |
| 00:24.11 | Antiarc | It calls the handler every delay seconds, but only if the event was fired 1 or more times in that period |
| 00:24.23 | NM|Xinhuan | does that suggest that an onupdate is used to do that? |
| 00:24.52 | Antiarc | Eh? |
| 00:24.58 | ag` | wtf, the twillight archon walks? http://www.starcraft2.com/features/protoss/index.xml?tab=twilightarchon |
| 00:24.58 | NM|Xinhuan | never mind hehe |
| 00:25.08 | Dustwhisper | the archon ALWAYS walked |
| 00:25.13 | Dustwhisper | you just could never really see his feet |
| 00:25.41 | Fisker- | btw h4xc |
| 00:25.43 | Fisker- | h4x |
| 00:25.47 | Fisker- | protoss has stargates! |
| 00:25.49 | NM|Xinhuan | the archon is just a ball of energy - it doesn't really walk but is more so hovering? |
| 00:25.55 | Dustwhisper | nope |
| 00:26.00 | Dustwhisper | it had legs it had arms it had a full body |
| 00:26.21 | Fisker- | i must say that looks lame |
| 00:26.35 | ag` | I never knew it walked in SC(1) |
| 00:26.48 | ag` | always thought it was floating |
| 00:27.15 | ag` | however there's a lot in SC you couldn't really see because of the resolution |
| 00:27.20 | ag` | like the Terran Barracks |
| 00:27.25 | ag` | man it looks wierd |
| 00:27.40 | ag` | I've never figured out what's supposed to be what on that building |
| 00:28.43 | Industrial | nsfw http://www.vidmax.com/index.php/videos/view/2777 |
| 00:30.17 | ag` | nice article Fisker-, they have a playable game for the journalists |
| 00:30.37 | Fisker- | so wut? |
| 00:30.52 | Fisker- | i'm gonna kill you |
| 00:30.55 | Fisker- | i know where you live |
| 00:30.57 | ag` | nice load Industrial |
| 00:31.07 | Fisker- | <-domestic terrorists |
| 00:31.10 | Dustwhisper | that was fun |
| 00:31.36 | Dustwhisper | I wonder if using the word Nazi in an addonname is really cosher or not |
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| 00:31.56 | Keias | It'll only be bad if it's something that keeps track of fire spells |
| 00:32.04 | Dustwhisper | lol |
| 00:33.55 | Antiarc | /I have just developed the coolest Parrot animation style ever. |
| 00:34.57 | ag` | Will it do my homework Antiarc? |
| 00:35.04 | Antiarc | No, but it's still pretty cool |
| 00:36.26 | ckknight | what is it? |
| 00:36.46 | Antiarc | Text zooms in from the center, lingers, and then shoots off horizontally |
| 00:37.05 | [dRaCo] | wtf. |
| 00:37.29 | ckknight | feel free to commit |
| 00:37.55 | [dRaCo] | make it spin in growing circles and then explode in at least 12 colors. |
| 00:37.57 | Dustwhisper | Im probably asking redundant questions but what's a good WOW Lua commandlist so i can look up pairs, ipairs etc etc |
| 00:38.07 | [dRaCo] | ~pil |
| 00:38.08 | purl | from memory, pil is Programming in Lua. The first edition is available free online at http://www.lua.org/pil and covers Lua 5.0. The second edition is available in hardcover and covers Lua 5.1. |
| 00:38.16 | Dustwhisper | thank you |
| 00:38.18 | ckknight | Dustwhisper: wowwiki.com/World_of_Warcraft_API |
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| 00:39.59 | Antiarc | ckknight: Where the heck is the localization in Parrot? |
| 00:40.14 | ckknight | fake localization ;-) |
| 00:40.22 | ckknight | L[key] = key |
| 00:40.35 | Antiarc | Cool |
| 00:41.05 | NM|Xinhuan | fake it with a metatable __index method that "return key;" ;p |
| 00:42.05 | CIA-22 | 03antiarc * r45143 10Parrot/Data/AnimationStyles.lua: Parrot: Added "Action" and "Action Sticky" animation styles. |
| 00:42.28 | Chompers | Industrial: that video is fake |
| 00:42.32 | Chompers | it HAS to be |
| 00:43.31 | Industrial | pop. |
| 00:44.23 | NM|Xinhuan | i wonder if you do string concat from a table of strings into one long string, whether LUA generates all the intermediate strings as garbage |
| 00:44.33 | Antiarc | ckknight: Take a look and lemme know what you think |
| 00:46.46 | kergoth | man, my local copy of git-submodule is so patched to hell |
| 00:47.44 | Chompers | attempt 10 on 'the maker' in blood furnace |
| 00:47.49 | Chompers | i want his libram damnit |
| 00:47.54 | Antiarc | I named them "Action" because I'm listening to Immediate Music's "Abbey Road" and it's impossible to not feel action-y |
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| 00:56.47 | Gnarfoz | lol dirty ad ^^ |
| 00:58.33 | mitch0 | what can I do if someone hooks my OnMouseDown(this, butt) function, but doesn't pass any params? should I rename "this" to "frame" and do "if not frame then frame = this end" ? is "this" always set? or is that arg0? (I could fix the button missing with "if not button then button = arg1 end" |
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| 00:59.38 | ckknight | ...butt |
| 00:59.47 | theoddone33 | on |
| 00:59.55 | Arrowmaster | mitch0: shouldnt that be OnMouseDown(self, button)? |
| 01:00.22 | kergoth | Arrowmaster, it doesnt matter what you call them.. |
| 01:00.36 | mitch0 | ckk: I meant to say button you pervert! :) |
| 01:00.37 | Arrowmaster | i thought this was a special variable created by wow |
| 01:00.38 | kergoth | i could call my arguments foo and bar, as long as i know what they are :P |
| 01:00.53 | kergoth | they're locals. |
| 01:00.57 | Thrae | mitch0: Don't ever code trying to accomodate stupid coders. |
| 01:01.07 | Thrae | Keep to the standards. |
| 01:01.25 | mitch0 | thrae: yeah, but my users can't use my addon now |
| 01:01.36 | Arrowmaster | why not? |
| 01:01.37 | mitch0 | and if there's a semi-decent workaround, I'd rather do that |
| 01:01.39 | kergoth | ah, old addons before args were passed, no doubt |
| 01:01.45 | kergoth | so they dont pass them along |
| 01:02.04 | Thrae | mitch0: Why can't users use your addon? |
| 01:02.05 | mitch0 | so what are the var set for arg0? |
| 01:02.26 | mitch0 | 'cos this becomes nil and thus it fails 3 lines down |
| 01:02.29 | kergoth | Thrae: because his addon is exploding due to old addons hooking and not passing the arguments |
| 01:02.36 | mitch0 | and so they can't reposition it |
| 01:02.42 | Arrowmaster | what addons are hooking yours? |
| 01:02.44 | kergoth | meh |
| 01:02.47 | Thrae | kergoth: Then users disable those old addons |
| 01:02.49 | kergoth | headaches ftl |
| 01:02.53 | Thrae | Because those old addons are stupid. |
| 01:03.05 | kergoth | thrae: and naturally they'll know what's causing it, with the error pointing at his addon :P |
| 01:03.41 | mitch0 | ok, so if I don't call my first arg "this" , another "this" will magically be set in OnMouseDown, right? |
| 01:03.56 | kergoth | no |
| 01:03.59 | kergoth | its a global |
| 01:03.59 | kergoth | "this" |
| 01:04.04 | kergoth | no magically injected |
| 01:04.05 | Arrowmaster | dont use the global this |
| 01:04.06 | kergoth | just a global |
| 01:04.22 | mitch0 | and where does that global this point? |
| 01:04.35 | Arrowmaster | no clue |
| 01:04.41 | mitch0 | to my frame, isn't it? |
| 01:04.46 | Arrowmaster | because its automaticly set by wow |
| 01:04.56 | Ironhand | is Omen supposed to show a certain amount of threat for myself when not in combat? |
| 01:05.05 | Antiarc | No, it shouldn't. |
| 01:05.28 | Ironhand | is the fact that it does a known bug, then? |
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| 01:06.29 | Antiarc | I generally don't see it do that. What class? |
| 01:06.42 | Antiarc | and what revision? |
| 01:06.48 | Ironhand | right now Warrior, but I think I've seen it occur on other characters |
| 01:07.05 | Ironhand | revision 45044, Threat r45065 |
| 01:07.20 | Thrae | mitch0: Have the person encountering the error do a search for which addon is causing the problem. Lemme check... |
| 01:07.55 | Antiarc | Ironhand: Are you running any other addosn with Threat embedded? |
| 01:08.05 | Antiarc | (try a full WAU update, see if that fixes it) |
| 01:08.37 | Ironhand | I run everything with externals, I'm assuming that means there should only be one version of Threat, but I'll check just in case |
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| 01:10.20 | Dustwhisper | attempt to index global 'self' (a nil value) on self:Print("test") what causes this ? |
| 01:10.40 | CIA-22 | 03cryect * r45144 10Recount/ (GUI_Config.lua Recount.lua Sync.lua): Recount - Slight change to sync algorithm thats backwards compatible |
| 01:10.46 | Dustwhisper | well tbh func = function() self:Print("test"); end |
| 01:10.46 | [dRaCo] | there is no such thing as self? |
| 01:10.49 | Thrae | mitch0: So, what string are we looking for again? |
| 01:11.12 | Thrae | mitch0: Which OnMouseDown are you hooking? |
| 01:11.17 | Dustwhisper | i thought self was something like C++'s this |
| 01:11.33 | kergoth | it is, and it has to be passed. |
| 01:11.34 | Arrowmaster | Dustwhisper: because theres no self since your not using OO style syntax suger stuff in Lua |
| 01:11.34 | Ironhand | hmmm, I did a WAU update of all Ace addons except one just earlier today, and the addon not included doesn't include Threat, is it still worth going through all addons checking for Threat? |
| 01:11.35 | mitch0 | I'm not hooking anything. they're hooking my OnMouseDown :) |
| 01:11.44 | kergoth | you'd have to do func(self) |
| 01:11.58 | Dustwhisper | How do I define that then Arrowmaster |
| 01:11.59 | Antiarc | Hm, no, it should be fine. |
| 01:12.15 | Antiarc | Ironhand: Can you provide me with steps to reproduce the issue? |
| 01:12.29 | Arrowmaster | Dustwhisper: what did you embed aceconsole into that should have Print() |
| 01:12.29 | Ironhand | Antiarc: I'll try - hadn't gone into it deeper yet in case it was a known thing |
| 01:12.35 | Antiarc | Okay. Thanks. |
| 01:12.47 | mitch0 | thrae: it's probably some snap-to-grid like addon hooking every boody function a widget has, and doing that badly |
| 01:14.39 | kergoth | Dustwhisper, if you were to do func = function() self:Print("test"); end inside of a function that had self passed, then that self would be an upvalue in the func closure, so wouldnt be nil. perhaps you just dont want to be setting it outside of your initialization method? |
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| 01:15.08 | Thrae | mitch0: Ohhhh. Then just do this -- if not self then error("One of your addons has improperly hooked FunctionName in MyAddonName. Reverting..."); WidgetName.OnMouseDown = FunctionName end |
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| 01:16.22 | mitch0 | kinda harsh... |
| 01:16.23 | Ironhand | Antiarc: only thing I can say so far is that it does _not_ happen after each fight, so I'll just have to keep an eye on it until it occurs again... one thing I do remember when it happened is that there was only "general" threat listed, so not with any mobs selected (but selecting & deselecting a mob did not clear it) |
| 01:16.28 | Thrae | mitch0: Then ask whoever gets that error message to try and figure out which is the bad addon (they'll probably figure it out when the other addon stops working with yours). For now, that will destroy all hooks to your function. |
| 01:16.40 | Antiarc | Hrm. Okay, thanks. |
| 01:16.45 | Dustwhisper | ooooh now i get it |
| 01:16.49 | Dustwhisper | i was being totally retarded |
| 01:16.53 | mitch0 | it also un-hooks the good ones, too, if it's a chain |
| 01:16.58 | Thrae | mitch0: You just need to do that temporarily until you can figure out which addon is causing it, then warn users not to use it. |
| 01:17.19 | Arrowmaster | or tell the author to l2code |
| 01:17.30 | Thrae | Arrowmaster: He doesn't know which addon is doing it |
| 01:17.36 | Arrowmaster | i know |
| 01:17.40 | Thrae | mitch0: It's only temporarily |
| 01:17.45 | Arrowmaster | i mean once he does figure it out |
| 01:17.52 | NM|Xinhuan | Thrae: that wouldn't revert the hook, cos FunctionName would already be pointing to the new global function ;p |
| 01:18.09 | Thrae | TinyTipExtras had to fight addons like MobInfo2 with hooking OnShow |
| 01:18.09 | NM|Xinhuan | would have to store a local pointer to the unhooked function |
| 01:18.21 | Thrae | NM|Xinhuan: No, since we're talking about a script here |
| 01:19.30 | Arrowmaster | if its a script then you would do WidgetName:SetScript("OnMouseDown", FunctionName) |
| 01:19.33 | mitch0 | thrae: is WidgetName.OnMouseDown = Func the same as WidgetName:SetScript(Func) ? |
| 01:19.48 | Thrae | mitch0: Yeah with a script use SetScript |
| 01:20.10 | mitch0 | problem is, so far it was an anon function :( |
| 01:20.19 | mitch0 | so it's ugly no matter what |
| 01:20.20 | NM|Xinhuan | name it locally then |
| 01:21.25 | mitch0 | thrae: and you advise to do the same if they forget to pass arg1 only, too? |
| 01:21.45 | mitch0 | thrae: like they pass self/this, but not the rest of the args |
| 01:22.18 | Thrae | mitch0: this != self, this still exists I believe, even if not passed |
| 01:22.34 | Thrae | mitch0: Yeah, check for additional args if there are any |
| 01:22.42 | mitch0 | thrae: and what does it points to? |
| 01:22.56 | Thrae | mitch0: The owner of the script |
| 01:23.02 | NM|Xinhuan | "this" points to the object that the event triggered |
| 01:23.07 | NM|Xinhuan | unless modified by another addon |
| 01:23.21 | Thrae | mitch0: this is a global, though |
| 01:23.45 | mitch0 | so, basically, I could use it as a workaround, if I wanted to |
| 01:23.51 | Arrowmaster | just completely forget about this, its a fake self created by WoW for non OO stuff |
| 01:24.00 | Arrowmaster | its bad to use |
| 01:24.05 | mitch0 | but it would be not "nice" and could break |
| 01:24.14 | Thrae | mitch0: No, please, do not cater to bad coding. |
| 01:24.41 | Thrae | There's a better chance use of 'this' will be removed anyway |
| 01:24.50 | Ironhand | Antiarc|Work: problem just occured again (threat remaining on Omen) after a normal one-mob solo fight, only thing I can come up with that might be a hint is that Unbridled Wrath (+1 rage) procced after the mob in question died, according to combat log |
| 01:25.03 | Xuerian | Ok, what's a mod that gives me editable notes for my friends list! |
| 01:25.14 | Arrowmaster | 'this' doesnt even work exactly like 'self' since its a fake 'self' for functions definded like AddonName_ScriptName() |
| 01:25.15 | durcyn | Xuerian: AuldLangSyne |
| 01:25.15 | mitch0 | xuer: audlangsyne |
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| 01:25.22 | Xuerian | Danke |
| 01:25.47 | Ironhand | Antiarc|Work: have screenshot if it's any use |
| 01:25.56 | mitch0 | alright, I'll pop up a big fat error then and unhook the hooks |
| 01:26.18 | Thrae | mitch0: If you really want to figure out which is the bad addon, register for ADDON_LOADED and check to see if your function pointer has changed (IE, Widget.GetScript("Foo") ) as each addon is loaded. If it's just one, then when the error occurs, tell them to tell you that addon's name. |
| 01:26.28 | NM|Xinhuan | blizzard won't remove "this" because they would have to rewrite their entire UI code lol |
| 01:26.37 | Thrae | mitch0: You should get feedback in a relatively short time |
| 01:27.32 | Arrowmaster | wouldnt a debugstack also show what addon hooked it? |
| 01:27.45 | mitch0 | thrae: I'm not that desparate. actually, this stuff is only used once normally, when the drag the display to a nice place, then it's locked and no more mouse clicks for me, so unhooking stuff should be ok. then they could /rl |
| 01:28.39 | syeren | ckknight? |
| 01:28.50 | ckknight | syeren? |
| 01:28.53 | NM|Xinhuan | loads of inheritted code based on using UIDropDownMenus would need a lot of "this" since the object references aren't passed :( |
| 01:29.01 | Dustwhisper | will /console ReloadUI() only refresh loaded files and not append new files added to an addon btw ? |
| 01:29.08 | Thrae | mitch0: Well you could find the guy that said he had an error and give him that special copy |
| 01:29.12 | ckknight | yes, Dustwhisper |
| 01:29.17 | Dustwhisper | that's really anal |
| 01:29.31 | NM|Xinhuan | Dustwhisper: ya, wow only parses the directory and files once when you start it |
| 01:29.33 | Thrae | mitch0: Then tell him to disable the addon that's doing it, and complain to THAT addon's author |
| 01:29.45 | mitch0 | eh |
| 01:29.55 | mitch0 | users don't work that way. at least, the majority of them |
| 01:29.57 | NM|Xinhuan | the structure that is - it will only reload the files that it knows is there |
| 01:30.01 | mitch0 | and it's also too much trouble |
| 01:30.28 | mitch0 | I'll just go with the unhooking, that should work (unless they also mess with my metatable / SetScript() function |
| 01:30.48 | syeren | ckknight, would it ever be possible for a developer to make a player marking system :P? |
| 01:30.54 | NM|Xinhuan | i don't think you have much choices mitch0 :P |
| 01:30.57 | syeren | Kind of like raid marking, but for the player personally. |
| 01:30.57 | syeren | ;p |
| 01:31.11 | syeren | Why Blizzard don't have it in the game at the moment is eugh, but yeah :p |
| 01:31.15 | ckknight | player marking? |
| 01:31.30 | syeren | Raid leaders can assign marks to players / mobs like Skulls etc. |
| 01:31.31 | NM|Xinhuan | syeren: don't think its possible |
| 01:31.35 | syeren | But only raid leaders :p |
| 01:31.43 | Thrae | mitch0: You should never appease the users by making your own code worse because some other addon is badly coded. |
| 01:31.51 | NM|Xinhuan | those raid icons are blizzard code, not player |
| 01:31.54 | NM|Xinhuan | or UI |
| 01:32.26 | Thrae | mitch0: Wait, did someone mention metatables to you? That might work too. |
| 01:32.49 | NM|Xinhuan | what does your onmousedown() do? |
| 01:32.58 | mitch0 | just StartMoving() |
| 01:33.10 | mitch0 | and a bit of housekeeping |
| 01:33.16 | NM|Xinhuan | so you don't need arg1? |
| 01:33.20 | NM|Xinhuan | or any other args? |
| 01:33.29 | mitch0 | I need arg1 (only move with leftbutton) |
| 01:33.40 | mitch0 | rightbutton is for menu |
| 01:33.48 | mitch0 | but DewDrop handles that |
| 01:33.53 | Thrae | mitch0: Ooo, you could also hook the SetScript function itself |
| 01:34.13 | NM|Xinhuan | so an addon that hooks your function is killing the "this" pointer? |
| 01:34.27 | mitch0 | yep. and probly button (arg1), too |
| 01:34.44 | Thrae | NM|Xinhuan: It's not passing ANY arguments. And it's 'self', not 'this'. 'this' still exists, but should not be used. |
| 01:34.53 | Dustwhisper | How do I set my window to toplevel for when i move it around? |
| 01:35.05 | Dustwhisper | i tried AddonName:SetWindowTop(this) didnt quite work |
| 01:35.29 | mitch0 | SetFrameStrata? or SetStrata? something like that |
| 01:35.34 | NM|Xinhuan | well thrae, suppose i use UIDropDownMenu templates instead of dewdrops, how would i avoid using "this"? |
| 01:35.47 | Thrae | !api Frame_SetTopLevel |
| 01:35.48 | ThraeBot | Thrae: Could not find a relevant page. Perhaps you could be so kind as to create one? http://www.wowwiki.com/API_Frame_SetTopLevel |
| 01:36.29 | Thrae | NM|Xinhuan: That's different. |
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| 01:37.04 | Thrae | The UIDropDownMenu template can't be changed because of current backwards compatibility, even though use of 'this' is deprecated. |
| 01:37.23 | NM|Xinhuan | i try to use "self" whenever possible, but where blizz code comes in, its hard to avoid using this, such as uidropdownmenus :( |
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| 01:37.51 | Thrae | Hence, the ancient Chinese saying, "Don't use Blizzard's code. Ever." |
| 01:38.09 | NM|Xinhuan | its not really deprecated because the entire blizz UI uses "this" in a few million places though |
| 01:38.39 | Shirik | ns identify |
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| 01:38.56 | Thrae | NM|Xinhuan: That's in case people use portions of the exposed Blizzard UI |
| 01:38.56 | Shirik | Thrae: Awesome quote to log in to |
| 01:39.16 | Shirik | Thrae: You mean like |
| 01:39.17 | Thrae | Shirik: Heh |
| 01:39.21 | Shirik | -- HACK |
| 01:39.21 | Shirik | -- END HACK |
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| 01:39.42 | Thrae | 21:42 < NM|Xinhuan> i try to use "self" whenever possible, but where blizz code comes in, its hard to avoid using this, such as uidropdownmenus :( |
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| 01:39.59 | CIA-22 | SimpleMD: |
| 01:39.59 | CIA-22 | - Changed menu structure to be more intuitive (hopefully) |
| 01:39.59 | CIA-22 | - Changed old color options to a color wheel |
| 01:39.59 | CIA-22 | - Moved around some printing commands |
| 01:40.06 | NM|Xinhuan | oh i guess it is possible to avoid using "this" for UIdropdownmenus.. just gotta use .arg1 and .arg2 instead of using this.value ;p |
| 01:40.23 | Shirik | you never have to use "this" |
| 01:40.28 | Shirik | and you never should |
| 01:40.32 | Shirik | ever |
| 01:40.43 | Dustwhisper | oh =D |
| 01:40.58 | NM|Xinhuan | yes shirik, but my case was directed specifically to using UIDropDownMenus |
| 01:40.59 | Shirik | nor should you use the global arg1,arg2... |
| 01:41.14 | Shirik | and I still maintain you never have to use them |
| 01:41.47 | NM|Xinhuan | not about to write an entire menu system to replace blizzard's one hehe |
| 01:41.58 | Thrae | NM|Xinhuan: Unless you're hooking the UIDropDownMenu functions themselves, all the widget methods will be passed self. |
| 01:42.03 | Dustwhisper | so whenever I see "this" in code what should be used instead =)? Like this:GetParent or this:StartMoving ? |
| 01:42.13 | Shirik | you.. don't have to |
| 01:42.25 | Shirik | Dustwhisper: That depends |
| 01:42.25 | Shirik | in many cases, "self" |
| 01:42.29 | NM|Xinhuan | the problem thrae, is that the blizzard defines those buttons with a script handler that doesn't pass "self" |
| 01:42.56 | NM|Xinhuan | its just a <OnClick> thisfunc() </OnClick> |
| 01:43.05 | Shirik | there is always a way around it |
| 01:43.52 | Shirik | Dustwhisper: this, arg1, etc. are globals |
| 01:43.52 | Shirik | they are slow. Very slow. |
| 01:44.03 | Shirik | and also technically deprecated |
| 01:44.14 | Shirik | though I know how many people care about that |
| 01:44.37 | Thrae | NM|Xinhuan: I don't see why you would need to hook those functions, though. |
| 01:44.42 | NM|Xinhuan | i don't |
| 01:45.05 | Dustwhisper | so what do I use instead of this:StartMoving(); or this:GetParent() ? self:StartMoving doesnt work? Is it FrameName:StartMoving instead then ? or self.FrameName:StartMoving maybe ? |
| 01:45.22 | Thrae | NM|Xinhuan: So internally the UIDropDownMenu will be using 'this', but everything you do on your end doesn't need to use 'this'. |
| 01:45.29 | NM|Xinhuan | one of my addons uses uidropdownmenus, and info.func contains the function to call, and inside that function, it references this.value (which is copied from info.value) when the button is made |
| 01:46.38 | NM|Xinhuan | it is possible to avoid that only by using info.arg1 instead, and have the function call pass that as an argument |
| 01:47.33 | Shirik | Dustwhisper: It depends on where you're doing it from |
| 01:47.38 | Shirik | Show me some code |
| 01:48.10 | Thrae | NM|Xinhuan: Ohhh, you mean...right. Well, then just pass 'self' as the 1st arg yourself. |
| 01:48.29 | NM|Xinhuan | yep |
| 01:48.35 | NM|Xinhuan | don't really see a way around that heh |
| 01:48.37 | Thrae | NM|Xinhuan: info.arg1 and info.arg2 are passed for each button click. You should only need 1 for the actual value. |
| 01:48.38 | NM|Xinhuan | blizz code IS bad |
| 01:48.56 | Thrae | NM|Xinhuan: Well if you do it that way, you're safe if they ever change it to use 'self'. |
| 01:49.11 | Thrae | Come 3.0 or whatever :D |
| 01:49.15 | Dustwhisper | it's in function RNTest:CreateMainFrame() where I do RNTest.MainWindow = CreateFrame... local mainFrame = RNTest.MainWindow then I setup the OnMouseDown and Up handlers as mainFrame.SetScript(..) function() this.StartMoving() |
| 01:49.27 | NM|Xinhuan | doubt they would change it, it would break a few thousand addons that use it.. then again... hahaha |
| 01:49.47 | NM|Xinhuan | they already changed itemlink formats from 1.0 to 2.0 so maybe they will |
| 01:49.55 | Dustwhisper | mainFrame:StartMoving works |
| 01:50.04 | Thrae | NM|Xinhuan: Come 3.0, most of those addons would probably be mute. 2.0 broke a TON of addons with its change to Lua 5.1. |
| 01:50.09 | Dustwhisper | but im not sure if mainFrame is a ptr to the correct instance or is just "name" based |
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| 01:50.16 | NM|Xinhuan | Thrae: very true |
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| 01:51.43 | NM|Xinhuan | shouldn't your function should be declared as function(self, button) self:StartMoving() end ? |
| 01:53.20 | Dustwhisper | how would I know, Im just looking at other addons and how they do it |
| 01:53.26 | Wobin | Nargiddley: You about? |
| 01:53.36 | Nargiddley | Wobin, whats up ? |
| 01:53.36 | Shirik | Dustwhisper: I'm confused |
| 01:53.39 | Shirik | can't you just pastey it? |
| 01:53.47 | Wobin | I'm having an odd issue with Baggins |
| 01:53.47 | Shirik | Thrae: No. |
| 01:53.54 | Shirik | Thrae: Those addons broke because of one of two things |
| 01:54.00 | Wobin | On one of my toons, I can't seem to get the fubar plugin to show |
| 01:54.01 | Shirik | (1) they needed to use secure templates, which we knew about |
| 01:54.04 | Wobin | but it shows fine on others |
| 01:54.16 | Shirik | (2) because they were using already-deprecated 5.0 Lua which SHOULD NOT HAVE BEEN USED ANYWAY |
| 01:54.22 | NM|Xinhuan | the function you send to setscript() should be declared with (self, ...) as the arguments |
| 01:54.25 | Shirik | "for k,v in table" has ALWAYS been deprecated, even in 5.0 |
| 01:54.32 | Shirik | You ALWAYS should have done "for k,v in pairs(table)" |
| 01:54.40 | Shirik | now it's just being enforced |
| 01:54.47 | Thrae | Shirik: I'm talking about breaking addons in 3.0 AFTER telling us how to update them some months beforehand, like they did with 2.0. |
| 01:54.49 | Wobin | Nargiddley: argh, I gotta go, msg me with any sort of debugging you'd like me to do and I'll get back to you |
| 01:55.00 | Wobin | but that's basically the issue =) |
| 01:55.08 | Wobin | no fubar plugin for a single toon |
| 01:55.18 | Nargiddley | Wobin, k but i've got no idea why the fubar acts up sometimes |
| 01:56.09 | break19 | Wobin: I have the same issue... and a workaround that works for me.. open baggins waterfall config, uncheck hide plugin - I have no idea why it keeps hiding itself tho |
| 01:56.27 | Dustwhisper | ooooh NM|Xinhuan that actually worked great |
| 01:56.33 | Dustwhisper | and made me feel a bit more safe/structured |
| 01:56.40 | NM|Xinhuan | heh |
| 01:56.42 | break19 | *my* main issue is.. I cant move the plugin around.. and the font isnt the same size as the rest of the plugins on my fubar |
| 01:57.12 | Dustwhisper | is there any sort of richedit/editbox like control i can just smack into my new hot dialog and spam with text =D? |
| 01:57.22 | NM|Xinhuan | yes |
| 01:58.20 | break19 | prat has a tendency to do that as well.. which is odd, on both parts... get "stuck" with the default font size instead of the smaller size I've chosen for my fubar pluggys.. and I cant drag it around to where I want it |
| 01:58.29 | NM|Xinhuan | you're looking for the <EditBox> frametype |
| 01:58.35 | break19 | almost like the fubar is "locked" but I can move others |
| 01:58.42 | NM|Xinhuan | look around on widgets on wowwiki for EditBox |
| 01:58.59 | Nargiddley | its doing that for me atm break19, but i have no idea where to start on fixing it |
| 01:59.28 | break19 | lovely. the dev has the same problem, but doesnt know why.. just lovely.. :) |
| 01:59.55 | break19 | which is why I dont code complex stuff.. :p |
| 01:59.57 | Nargiddley | It haddn't done it for me before, just checked now tho |
| 02:00.27 | break19 | narg: yea.. it didnt always do it to me either... it started doing it the same time prat did.. |
| 02:00.36 | Nargiddley | well the thing is, the fubar plugin bit isnt complex at all. I just add the mixin and give function for click, tooltip and text |
| 02:02.38 | break19 | one of these days I may write something that actually needs configuration... then i'll cry some more when I have to learn more "stuff" :p |
| 02:02.42 | Dustwhisper | Oh you can create your whole UI in a XML file |
| 02:02.47 | Dustwhisper | pro's and cons for that ? |
| 02:04.41 | NM|Xinhuan | frames created in XML can be saved into layout-cache.txt when they are moved by the user |
| 02:04.49 | NM|Xinhuan | their position and framelevel that is |
| 02:05.01 | NM|Xinhuan | dynamically created frames in XML can't |
| 02:05.05 | NM|Xinhuan | that's about the only difference |
| 02:05.13 | NM|Xinhuan | dynamically created frames in LUA* can't |
| 02:06.42 | ccKep | creating frames in LUA was implemented in 1.10 |
| 02:06.45 | NM|Xinhuan | however frames created in LUA can be anonymous, and don't pollute the global enviroment... something like that |
| 02:07.07 | Dustwhisper | ok |
| 02:07.12 | Dustwhisper | cause cba doing it XML way |
| 02:07.23 | NM|Xinhuan | its one less file to worry about anyway |
| 02:07.28 | NM|Xinhuan | if you just use lua |
| 02:07.35 | ccKep | before 1.10, raid frame addons had to have 40 identical frames in the .xml, which were all loaded |
| 02:07.52 | ccKep | now they just have a template in the .xml and dynamically CreateFrame() the amount of frames they need |
| 02:08.19 | NM|Xinhuan | don't even need the template in XML tbh |
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| 02:23.50 | kergoth | hmm, what happened to parrot showing loot info? |
| 02:24.27 | Antiarc | It should still be there |
| 02:24.32 | kergoth | hmm |
| 02:24.38 | kergoth | dont see it in events, and not seeing any loot messages |
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| 02:28.30 | ckknight_ | kergoth: did you update without restarting WoW? |
| 02:28.34 | ckknight_ | it went into its own Loot.lua folder |
| 02:28.50 | ckknight | btw, kergoth, you know I totally stole the idea from your mod :-P |
| 02:29.27 | Antiarc | ckknight: Did I do the animation thing right? |
| 02:29.33 | ckknight | don't know |
| 02:29.46 | ckknight | I inhaled a whole bunch of Lacquer Thinner fumes |
| 02:29.50 | ckknight | and now I feel very sick |
| 02:29.57 | kergoth | that's .. weird.. Loot isnt in my Parrot.toc, and i dont remember changing it.. /me blames it on an scm merge |
| 02:30.02 | Cryect | good idea ckknight |
| 02:31.02 | ckknight | what's a good idea? |
| 02:31.03 | ckknight | inhaling fumes? |
| 02:31.10 | ckknight | huffing is bad, Cryect |
| 02:35.55 | Cryect | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:35.58 | Cryect | same with lua frames |
| 02:36.08 | Cryect | just give them a name when created and they get saved |
| 02:36.40 | NM|Xinhuan | are you certain? wowwiki says that frames created dynamically can't, but it could be wrong |
| 02:36.43 | Cryect | Sure |
| 02:36.48 | Cryect | thats how I save positions in recount |
| 02:36.59 | NM|Xinhuan | ok ;) |
| 02:37.00 | Cryect | I was doing it manually then said why bother with extra code |
| 02:37.18 | NM|Xinhuan | cos if you do it in code in savedvariables, they carry over to other chars on your account |
| 02:37.25 | NM|Xinhuan | while if you use layout-cache.txt it is char specific |
| 02:37.54 | NM|Xinhuan | and if you unload the addon, enter wow, then quit wow, and load it back, you lose the saved frame layout |
| 02:38.07 | NM|Xinhuan | because layout-cache.txt doesn't save frames that dont' exist |
| 02:38.13 | NM|Xinhuan | while savedvariables remain saved |
| 02:38.30 | Cryect | hmmm never knew that |
| 02:38.55 | ckknight | Antiarc: animations seem fine |
| 02:38.56 | NM|Xinhuan | if you unload recount, say disable it on the char screen, login, then logout and enable it, youll find that you lost all the layout |
| 02:38.59 | Cryect | heh I'm tempted to logout and see it vanish fromt the cache file |
| 02:39.30 | NM|Xinhuan | assuming you saved it via SetUserPlaced() that is |
| 02:40.37 | vithos | oh that explains stuff losing its position when i had it disabled. |
| 02:40.49 | Cryect | yeah I hadn't realized that would happen :-p |
| 02:40.49 | NM|Xinhuan | vithos: ya |
| 02:40.50 | vithos | i was so confused a couple weeks ago from that |
| 02:41.28 | Cryect | Explains why my relog windows got moved to the center of the screen as well |
| 02:41.31 | NM|Xinhuan | a great example is say... ArenaMaster, you enable it when you arena on weekends and dont load it when you raid most of the week |
| 02:41.37 | NM|Xinhuan | you lose the saved position |
| 02:42.12 | NM|Xinhuan | so savedvariables is really the way to go - especially since it carries over to other characters |
| 02:42.24 | NM|Xinhuan | would need extra coding though, if you want different positions per char |
| 02:42.50 | Cryect | Why do you need extra coding if you want different positions per char? |
| 02:42.58 | Cryect | you know you can have saved vars be per char right? |
| 02:43.13 | NM|Xinhuan | true, i forgot that |
| 02:43.22 | Cryect | or just .db.char |
| 02:43.45 | Cryect | Though not sure if that requires you give it a per character var or it works fine with just global saved var |
| 02:44.11 | NM|Xinhuan | really depends on what type of addon it is, most wont' need per-character layout |
| 02:44.40 | Cryect | I say go with .profile and let the user decide I guess |
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| 02:49.36 | loonacy | Anyone know of a mod to manage minimap buttons? |
| 02:50.32 | loonacy | Specifically, I found this screenshot and I'd like to know what mod it is that puts the buttons like this: http://img249.imageshack.us/img249/3954/oorxa2.jpg |
| 02:51.20 | Gagorian | Just FuBar? |
| 02:52.28 | Gngsk | TidyMinimap |
| 02:52.42 | Cryect | Antiarc: man omen is so broken on nef :-p |
| 02:52.54 | Antiarc | heh, how so? |
| 02:53.08 | Cryect | like a warrior at 40k aggro pulling threat on a warrior with 150k threat |
| 02:53.57 | dnmcgoy | good evening all, does anyone know if there is a way to keybind to an action button of my own creation, or do I have to reuse a multiaction button |
| 02:54.04 | Cryect | I'm not sure whats wrong |
| 02:54.09 | Cryect | nef is kinda messed up |
| 02:54.21 | Cryect | like I was tanking while feared while the real MT wasn't feared |
| 02:56.01 | Gngsk | it's not just nef |
| 02:56.07 | Gngsk | seen the same issues on nightbane |
| 02:56.10 | Gngsk | prolly all the dragons |
| 02:56.11 | Cryect | man this is just screwed up |
| 02:56.23 | Cryect | all the adds at 20% went off healers magically to the MT :-p |
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| 02:56.50 | Cryect | PoM shouldn't have been enough to pull so kinda strange |
| 02:57.20 | loonacy | Thanks Gngsk, that's exactly what I wanted. |
| 02:58.21 | Gngsk | npz |
| 02:58.23 | Arrowmaster | your doing nef at 70? |
| 02:58.29 | Gngsk | why not? |
| 02:58.41 | Arrowmaster | is your MT wearing any pants? |
| 02:59.03 | Cryect | just because |
| 02:59.14 | ccKep | dnmcgoy: maybe bt3 has some code you might want to look at |
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| 03:00.11 | Arrowmaster | we did azurogos once at 70 with the MT being somebody that doesnt play a warrior main on his friends account using his warrior |
| 03:00.23 | Arrowmaster | longest fight ever |
| 03:00.39 | Arrowmaster | since we were wanding most of the time since he wasnt getting hit hard enough to get any rage |
| 03:00.44 | dnmcgoy | bt3? |
| 03:00.52 | Cryect | yeah I had to get on my druid after getting fed up by someone who doesn't really play a warrior trying to MT with our old guild's MT |
| 03:00.53 | ccKep | bartender3 |
| 03:01.03 | Cryect | for vael that is |
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| 03:04.49 | BankZ | Is DrDamage currently broken? |
| 03:06.55 | Hjalte | BankZ, I don't think it's supporting melee characters fully yet. |
| 03:08.18 | Galka | Where has hyperChipmunk been? :/ |
| 03:09.16 | Diao | did it ever support melee characters? |
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| 03:10.59 | Arrowmaster | it didnt used to but support is being added, its not completely finished though |
| 03:17.28 | mjc_ | anyone have a 60+ alliance priest on a US pvp server they don't use? my gf wants to start playing again and I don't want to have to help her level to 60 for the 5th tmie |
| 03:17.54 | Chaoslux | o.o |
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| 03:21.10 | mjc_ | yeah |
| 03:21.42 | mjc_ | I rerolled from horde in january wehn she quit playing |
| 03:21.50 | ckknight | you're ally now? |
| 03:22.07 | mjc_ | yeah |
| 03:22.14 | mjc_ | still have most of my horde toons |
| 03:22.21 | mjc_ | idling |
| 03:23.17 | mjc_ | my horde server was going nowhere raid wise |
| 03:23.41 | CIA-22 | 03darravis * r45146 10SmartyCat/ (. SmartyCat.lua SmartyCat.toc): |
| 03:23.41 | CIA-22 | SmartyCat: |
| 03:23.41 | CIA-22 | -Added GratuityLib |
| 03:24.33 | kebinusan | I dont even know what to say about this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DNO6G4ApJQY |
| 03:25.02 | Gngsk | hackers on steroids |
| 03:25.24 | syeren | mjc_: http://www.ebur.dk/wt/index.php?PHPSESSID=8f9dc329dee4816c232935e166a1088a;www |
| 03:25.26 | syeren | Have fun ;p |
| 03:25.48 | mjc_ | heh |
| 03:26.04 | kebinusan | fox news is simply amazing |
| 03:26.26 | ckknight | imho, the strict horde/alliance was a bad move |
| 03:26.57 | ckknight | I figure it'd be better if things were less rigid, i.e. if it were 10 separate factions, some hated some more than others and such, but you could at least work together |
| 03:27.09 | ckknight | and BGs and the like could split up how they are right now |
| 03:27.27 | syeren | Need a Scryer / Aldor BG ;p |
| 03:27.35 | Gngsk | that might be a good idea for some other game |
| 03:27.35 | ckknight | lol |
| 03:27.41 | Gngsk | but warcraft has always been alliance -vs- horde |
| 03:28.03 | ckknight | Gngsk: hate to break it to you, but now it's really just order (ally + horde) vs. chaos (burning legion) |
| 03:28.32 | Gngsk | I'm pissed! |
| 03:28.38 | art3mis | and drunk |
| 03:28.43 | Gngsk | unfortunately, no |
| 03:28.54 | art3mis | you've got paint thinner, go correct that |
| 03:29.04 | kebinusan | Beware! A'dal has tasted blood |
| 03:29.29 | art3mis | wasnt hyjal rumored to be a cross faction 100man or something? |
| 03:29.51 | kebinusan | I thikn it was cross faction 50 man raids |
| 03:29.58 | kebinusan | but yeah nasty rumors who knows |
| 03:30.05 | Arrowmaster | was just a lie |
| 03:30.06 | kebinusan | Id like to betray my faction |
| 03:30.10 | Arrowmaster | completely made up |
| 03:30.19 | art3mis | that makes me sad |
| 03:30.30 | kebinusan | gimme a quest to kill magni bronzebeard or somethin to get horde faction |
| 03:30.40 | art3mis | heh |
| 03:31.19 | CIA-22 | 03darravis * r45147 10SmartyCatManaBar/SmartyCatManaBar.lua: |
| 03:31.19 | CIA-22 | SmartyCatManaBar: |
| 03:31.19 | CIA-22 | -Added SML borders |
| 03:31.47 | ckknight | lol, kebinusan |
| 03:39.22 | durcyn | Gngsk: technically it was just Orcs vs Humans at the first =P{ |
| 03:42.19 | art3mis | man there are some nice cars on pinks all out |
| 03:42.32 | art3mis | right now an amc gremlin is sweeping the field |
| 03:42.42 | art3mis | a 10s amc gremlin |
| 03:57.09 | break19 | gremlins are cool |
| 03:57.16 | break19 | my old man had one WAYYYY back |
| 03:57.26 | break19 | he totalled it tho. :/ |
| 03:57.42 | break19 | we called it the purple people eater. .. heh |
| 03:58.21 | break19 | he uhm.. hooked bumpers with a pickup truck that merged too close in front of him.. it flipped him. |
| 03:59.50 | break19 | the two bumpers kinda hooked together just right (or wrong.. heh) and he went spinning off into the trees, upside down.. all he really remembers was "I kept tryin to pull my shoulder up.. It was getting road-burn.. I saw the truck.. then my shoulder was on fire.." |
| 04:00.23 | break19 | this was close to 20 years ago tho |
| 04:00.33 | break19 | prolly even longer than that.. damn... |
| 04:01.38 | break19 | the other guy's insurance company totalled it out.. paid my dad a whole 300 bucks.. he bought a used pinto with that. lol |
| 04:02.24 | break19 | and then many many years later, sold the pinto for 500$ . lol |
| 04:04.26 | art3mis | i think they only made gremlins in purple and green |
| 04:04.29 | break19 | btw.. is there any way to see how many times an addon has been downloaded on wowace? |
| 04:04.36 | art3mis | those are the only colours i remmeber seeing ever |
| 04:04.45 | break19 | im curious to know if anyone is actually using mine.. |
| 04:04.50 | break19 | other than me of course. :) |
| 04:05.40 | Hjalte | break19, i remember Kaelten linking to some statistic sites regarding popularity of downloads some time ago |
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| 04:09.12 | Aens|Superiority | ugh, why is it so hard to recruit alliance shamans :/ |
| 04:09.38 | Aens|Superiority | do horde have problems getting pallys? |
| 04:10.58 | art3mis | nope |
| 04:11.07 | ckknight | anyone older than 12 is an issue, though |
| 04:11.13 | art3mis | i think i need a new place to play |
| 04:11.25 | art3mis | im kind of bored with my server |
| 04:11.42 | Aens|Superiority | we're well progressed in bt and hyjal but no takers :/ |
| 04:11.57 | art3mis | heh what server ;P |
| 04:12.05 | art3mis | ill make ashaman and you can power level me nstuff |
| 04:12.08 | Aens|Superiority | kel'thuzad |
| 04:12.27 | break19 | night guys |
| 04:12.47 | Aens|Superiority | http://wowjutsu.com/us/kelthuzad/High%20Caliber.html |
| 04:13.02 | Aens|Superiority | hah |
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| 04:15.57 | sylvanaar | i need a guild my old one was terrible, but i dont have a shamen |
| 04:16.55 | Aens|Superiority | not many alliance do, or if they do, they are so hillariously bad |
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| 04:39.39 | art3mis | aens: whats yer char name? ;) |
| 04:43.10 | Antiarc | ckknight: Somehow, in the middle of combat, my combo points in PitBull got attached to my energy tick glow thing |
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| 04:43.20 | Antiarc | I've seen it happen with buffs, too |
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| 05:07.36 | ckknight | the Simpsons avatar creator is pretty neat |
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| 05:34.34 | CIA-22 | Numen: |
| 05:34.34 | CIA-22 | - Added earth totem buttons. |
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| 05:35.43 | pinklestein | hi |
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| 05:38.54 | ckknight | hey pinklestein |
| 05:38.55 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r45150 10Joker/Joker.lua: Joker - add recycling mechanisms, see wiki for details. |
| 05:39.47 | BankZ | which damage/heal meter do you guys like the best? |
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| 05:45.25 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r45151 10Joker/Joker.lua: Joker - fix the docs a bit |
| 05:46.56 | ccKep | wtb decent raidtracker with gui |
| 05:47.14 | ccKep | guess it's time to become familar with ace2 and start coding again -.- |
| 05:47.28 | NightHawkTheSane | wtb something to do. /bored |
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| 05:49.21 | BankZ | Message: ..\AddOns\DrDamage\DrDamage.lua line 1081: attempt to compare number with nil |
| 05:49.46 | pinklestein | u can help me setup my addon =P |
| 05:53.11 | CIA-22 | 03cryect * r45152 10Recount/ (GUI_Main.lua Sync.lua): |
| 05:53.11 | CIA-22 | Recount - Adds right clicking on bars |
| 05:53.11 | CIA-22 | - When you select the fight data used it now shows a check next to the currently selected |
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| 05:58.04 | CIA-22 | 03cryect * r45153 10Recount/GUI_Main.lua: Recount - Small bug fix |
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| 06:02.57 | ckknight | ccKep: but I'm making Ace3, you're out of date, man! |
| 06:04.24 | ccKep | just started trying to figure out how to use all those libs |
| 06:05.00 | CIA-22 | 03cryect * r45154 10Recount/GUI_Main.lua: Recount - Another small bug fix, yawn |
| 06:05.53 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r45155 10Joker/Joker.lua: Joker - add methods :IterateMixinObjects("mixinName"), :IterateObjectMixins(object), and :DoesObjectUseMixin(object, "mixinName") |
| 06:06.09 | ccKep | wtb up2date roster-2.1 docs ^.^ |
| 06:07.21 | Cryect | archive.org |
| 06:07.41 | Cryect | oh wait archive.org I think might only have 2.0 |
| 06:07.53 | Cryect | I remember wanting to look up something but couldn't |
| 06:09.32 | ckknight | Antiarc: bug in Autodoc |
| 06:09.37 | Antiarc | ? |
| 06:09.59 | ckknight | http://wowace.com/wiki/Joker#:HasAddon.28.22name.22.29 underneath Example |
| 06:10.04 | ckknight | it says boolean |
| 06:10.08 | ckknight | for seemingly no reason |
| 06:14.14 | Arrowmaster | cant wait to see how many bugs are caused by the findreplace commit when you change the name |
| 06:14.59 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r45156 10/branches/Joker/: Joker - add a branch for the Joker project |
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| 06:16.05 | ckknight | Arrowmaster: that is, if it's decided to be sanctioned as Ace3 |
| 06:17.26 | ccKep | hmhm |
| 06:17.46 | ccKep | in Roster-2.1.lua: |
| 06:17.53 | ccKep | self:TriggerEvent("RosterLib_UnitChanged", |
| 06:17.53 | ccKep | new_unitid, new_name, new_class, new_subgroup, new_rank, |
| 06:17.53 | ccKep | old_name, old_unitid, old_class, old_subgroup, old_rank, |
| 06:17.53 | ccKep | new_role, new_ML, |
| 06:17.53 | ccKep | old_role, old_ML) |
| 06:18.09 | ccKep | why is it new_unitid, new_name but then old_name, old_unitid? -.- |
| 06:19.02 | ckknight | *shrug* cause it sucks, my guess |
| 06:19.05 | ckknight | :-P |
| 06:19.20 | ckknight | poorly designed |
| 06:19.22 | NightHawkTheSane | its because ckknight touches himself at night |
| 06:19.23 | ccKep | maybe some kind of backwards compatibility.. who knows |
| 06:19.34 | ckknight | could be |
| 06:20.41 | ckknight | so for Joker, I'm going to force libraries to start with "Lib" methinks |
| 06:20.45 | ckknight | anyone have any thoughts? |
| 06:21.01 | ckknight | it'd be how *nix packaging is |
| 06:21.16 | ccKep | wtf is Joker? (jaja, I'm from yesterday.. guess I missed something) |
| 06:21.18 | ckknight | libc, libwine, now we'd have LibParser-3.0 and such |
| 06:21.23 | Bibi | [01:17:07] <ccKep> bibi seems rather confident about the blizzcon opening ceremony :o |
| 06:21.24 | Bibi | he is, he is. |
| 06:21.30 | ckknight | ccKep: secret project that may become Ace3 |
| 06:21.31 | ccKep | how comes? |
| 06:21.40 | ccKep | @ bibi |
| 06:21.41 | Bibi | because Blizzard always do what we expect |
| 06:21.48 | Bibi | ^^ |
| 06:21.59 | ckknight | it's zie |
| 06:22.18 | ccKep | hm? |
| 06:22.56 | ccKep | zie? |
| 06:23.09 | CIA-22 | 03syntherift * r45157 10/branches/Numen/ (Bindings.xml Numen.lua options.txt): |
| 06:23.09 | CIA-22 | Numen: |
| 06:23.09 | CIA-22 | - Added Keybindings (alpha) |
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| 06:23.44 | ckknight | ccKep: instead of ZA |
| 06:23.52 | ccKep | Zul'Aman? |
| 06:23.53 | ckknight | fire zie missiles! |
| 06:23.56 | ckknight | oh |
| 06:23.59 | ckknight | fair enough. |
| 06:24.02 | ccKep | ;) |
| 06:24.54 | ckknight | hrm, perhaps I can keep messages and events joined but have it be sane instead of as it is, insane |
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| 06:25.53 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight 07ckknight * r45158 10Joker/: Joker - add ckknight dir |
| 06:25.59 | ckknight | and basically have it namespaced instead |
| 06:26.15 | ccKep | DISCOVERY! Bautzel has discoved the recipe for Flask of Relentless Assault. |
| 06:26.20 | ccKep | [Bautzel] Level 63 Human Paladin |
| 06:26.39 | ckknight | ? |
| 06:26.40 | ccKep | atleast I've discovered arcane resist, yay... |
| 06:26.48 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r45159 10/ (branches/Joker/ckknight/LibJoker-1.0/ trunk/Joker/): .Joker - move to branches, rename LibJoker-1.0 |
| 06:27.18 | ccKep | I hate people making some potions/elixirs with their alts and discover all the useful flasks :o |
| 06:28.08 | CIA-22 | 03ktrigger * r45160 10/branches/Numen/Numen.lua: |
| 06:28.08 | CIA-22 | Numen: |
| 06:28.08 | CIA-22 | - Added texture and button swapping. |
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| 06:33.36 | ZealotOnAStick | Joker? |
| 06:34.12 | ccKep | shh, it's secret! |
| 06:34.35 | ckknight | ZealotOnAStick: potentially Ace3 |
| 06:34.57 | ccKep | meh.. no longer secret |
| 06:35.06 | ckknight | it's not a big secret |
| 06:35.12 | ckknight | just nobody use it |
| 06:35.22 | ckknight | it's by no means ordained or finalized |
| 06:37.42 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight 07ckknight * r45161 10Joker/LibJoker-1.0/ (Joker.lua Joker.toc LibJoker-1.0.lua LibJoker-1.0.toc): Joker-1.0 - rename to LibJoker-1.0, force libraries to start with Lib and end with the version sequence. Also force addons to not start with Lib. |
| 06:38.36 | NightHawkTheSane | "If you're implying that everything russian made is of poor quality, actually.. the sub is swiss." "So they occasionally keep fire, but keep perfect time..? |
| 06:39.12 | NightHawkTheSane | s/keep/catch/ |
| 06:39.46 | NightHawkTheSane | "The gauge must be malfunctioning." "But it's swiss!" |
| 06:41.32 | haste | source? |
| 06:41.46 | NightHawkTheSane | sg1, 407 - "Watergate" |
| 06:42.13 | haste | have I really seen that :o |
| 06:42.32 | Antiarc | ckknight: What about Lib[A-Z]? |
| 06:42.38 | Antiarc | Because what if I wanted to name my addon Librarian? |
| 06:42.55 | ckknight | works for me |
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| 06:45.01 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight 07ckknight * r45162 10Joker/LibJoker-1.0/LibJoker-1.0.lua: LibJoker-1.0 - allow addons that don't match "^Lib[A-Z]" instead of just "^Lib". |
| 06:45.39 | ckknight | wait, crap |
| 06:46.12 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight 07ckknight * r45163 10Joker/LibJoker-1.0/LibJoker-1.0.lua: LibJoker-1.0 - fix typo |
| 06:50.58 | Hjalte | What does it mean, when it says "Viewer Discretion is advised" just before the episodes of eg. Hell's Kitchen? |
| 06:51.28 | NightHawkTheSane | it means that viewer discretion is adviced. |
| 06:51.30 | NightHawkTheSane | advised. |
| 06:53.20 | ckknight | hrm |
| 06:53.43 | ckknight | perhaps Thrae's idea of :AddEvent would be saner than :RegisterEvent |
| 06:54.10 | Hjalte | NightHawkTheSane, wow thanks, I wasn't able to figure that one out.. No really, I'm not from the states and I thought someone could explain it to me :) |
| 06:55.20 | NightHawkTheSane | Hjalte: its usually used when the show contains content that some may consider objectionable, and so they simply say "use your discretion when viewing this" |
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| 06:56.32 | Hjalte | I see. Thanks. |
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| 07:12.55 | ckknight | I'm totally not putting in a :RegisterAllEvents thing |
| 07:13.07 | ckknight | there's no point, it can be done manually with Blizzard |
| 07:13.17 | ckknight | Blizzard frames, that is |
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| 07:22.32 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight 07ckknight * r45164 10Joker/LibJoker-1.0/LibJoker-1.0.lua: LibJoker-1.0 - add more documentation |
| 07:30.14 | Arrowmaster | ckknight: but doesnt the RAE in ace2 pickup all the aceaddon 'events' or are you keeping those seperate |
| 07:30.44 | ckknight | well, actually I'm just namespacing it in a very sane manner |
| 07:30.56 | ckknight | basically, MyAddon:AddEvent("Blizzard", "PLAYER_LOGIN") |
| 07:31.15 | ckknight | or alternatively, MyAddon:AddEvent("MyAddon", "SomeEvent") |
| 07:31.39 | Arrowmaster | sounds bothersome to have to add "Blizzard" |
| 07:31.43 | ckknight | :TriggerEvent("SomeEvent") -- note the lack of namespace |
| 07:31.51 | ckknight | Arrowmaster: yea, I'm thinking I'll make it implicit somehow |
| 07:32.06 | ckknight | so that :AddEvent("PLAYER_LOGIN") will automatically do Blizz |
| 07:32.36 | Arrowmaster | so whats with the lack of namespace on the trigger? |
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| 07:33.13 | ckknight | Arrowmaster: all addons and libraries have namespaces |
| 07:33.30 | ckknight | MyAddon = Joker:NewAddon("MyAddon") |
| 07:33.42 | ckknight | MyAddon is its namespace for any libraries that want namespacing |
| 07:33.49 | ckknight | well, "MyAddon" is |
| 07:34.11 | ckknight | and for libraries, local LibMonkey = Joker:NewLibrary("LibMonkey-1.0") |
| 07:34.14 | Arrowmaster | so if you do MyAddon:TriggerEvent("SomeEvent") what happens? |
| 07:34.18 | ckknight | and "LibMonkey-1.0" is its namespace |
| 07:34.46 | ckknight | Arrowmaster: basically, it will go through and fire the methods of addons/libraries that have registered for the event "MyAddon"/"SomeEvent" |
| 07:35.35 | Arrowmaster | so you can only trigger events that belong to your own namespace? |
| 07:35.45 | ckknight | yes. |
| 07:35.53 | Arrowmaster | not sure if i like that |
| 07:36.32 | ckknight | do you have a reason for that? I'm totally open for discussion |
| 07:38.10 | Arrowmaster | i cant think of a good reason i could validate but id rather not see it so restrictive |
| 07:38.35 | ckknight | this is to get rid of all the evil "Roster21_SomeThingy" vs. "RosterLib_SomeThingy" etc. |
| 07:38.42 | ckknight | vs. normal Blizz events |
| 07:38.52 | ckknight | and such |
| 07:39.11 | Arrowmaster | should really be the author responsibity to properly name than the framework to force it |
| 07:39.32 | ckknight | well, I'll do it this way for now |
| 07:39.51 | ckknight | if I or someone else can think of a good, legitimate reason to fire another namespace's events, I'll change it |
| 07:39.58 | Arrowmaster | i know its an unintended side effect of how ace2 does it but ive used TriggerEvent a few times to fire blizzard events in all ace2 addons for debugging |
| 07:40.36 | ckknight | I might allow for a specific debugging way, but not for normal code |
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| 07:41.47 | Arrowmaster | i was thinking somewhat for backwards compat if say an addon only listened to events from another addon but didnt actually embed it or do a local libA = Joker:GetLibrary("LibA-1.0") |
| 07:42.20 | Arrowmaster | and a new version of the library wanted to fire an older event the same way an older version did |
| 07:42.26 | ckknight | hrm... |
| 07:42.33 | ckknight | I can see that argument. |
| 07:42.47 | ckknight | okay |
| 07:42.48 | ckknight | I'll put in a separate method, though |
| 07:42.54 | ckknight | :TriggerNamespaceEvent |
| 07:43.17 | ckknight | and everyone's happy :-) |
| 07:43.27 | Arrowmaster | hmm small idea |
| 07:43.52 | ckknight | hrm? |
| 07:44.08 | Arrowmaster | some way for an addon thats not writen using the framework to use the special 'events' |
| 07:44.40 | ckknight | use? |
| 07:44.43 | ckknight | register with, you mean? |
| 07:44.44 | ckknight | or trigger? |
| 07:45.05 | Arrowmaster | although i guess thats possible with aceevent-2.0 but i guess most dev's not using ace2 wouldnt know how to do it |
| 07:45.11 | Arrowmaster | register mainly |
| 07:46.32 | ckknight | I could allow for Joker("LibJokerEvent-1.0"):AddEvent("ns", "event", func) arbitrarily |
| 07:46.42 | ckknight | which is how AceEvent does it now |
| 07:47.19 | ckknight | but then, if you do that, it seems like it might just be easier to create a table that embeds LibJokerEvent |
| 07:47.43 | ckknight | local t = {}; Joker("LibJokerEvent-1.0"):Embed(t); t:AddEvent("ns", "event", func) |
| 07:48.19 | Arrowmaster | right now the major things about ace2 that i see as ligitimate reasons for wanting ace2 based mods is how well they work together with the events and deucecommander/niagara |
| 07:48.50 | ckknight | oh, one thing I plan to add to Joker is better options registration so that DeuceCommander/Niagara/AceKhaos will work much cleaner |
| 07:48.57 | ckknight | and more efficient |
| 07:50.01 | Arrowmaster | although really those could use some work for being good ui's |
| 07:50.27 | Arrowmaster | the nested dropdowns do get quite large |
| 07:51.18 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight 07ckknight * r45165 10Joker/LibJoker-1.0/LibJoker-1.0.lua: LibPoker-1.0 - make :Embed({}) return the table given. |
| 07:51.22 | ckknight | *sigh* yea |
| 07:52.22 | Arrowmaster | but i dont think those would have to be reworked to much really |
| 07:52.47 | Arrowmaster | i think niagra with some form of 'pages' could work nice |
| 07:52.52 | ckknight | yea |
| 07:53.00 | ckknight | well, Waterfall in general |
| 07:53.06 | Arrowmaster | yeah |
| 07:53.22 | Arrowmaster | i know the bigwigs waterfall config does something with the dropdowns that most others dont |
| 07:53.39 | ckknight | what's that? |
| 07:53.59 | Thrae | ThraeBot: help |
| 07:54.00 | ThraeBot | Triggers: !fc; !c; !co; !g; !te; !vs; !ar; !l; !tc; !ap; !api; !tl; !t; !i;. To get more information about a particular command, do !help <command>. Now /msg ThraeBot with your command and stop spamming the damn channel. |
| 07:54.44 | Arrowmaster | instead of being +-ZoneName i think its ZoneName in some kinda box that when you click it opens up like a +- |
| 07:55.06 | Arrowmaster | its weird |
| 07:55.19 | Nargiddley | do you mean the left side Arrowmaster ? |
| 07:55.23 | Arrowmaster | yeah |
| 07:55.40 | Nargiddley | yeah, thats just a single flag to the register call |
| 07:55.41 | ckknight | Arrowmaster: hrm, maybe I could add pagegroup to AceOptions |
| 07:55.46 | ckknight | or something |
| 07:55.53 | ckknight | cause I use it in Parrot, too |
| 07:55.57 | ckknight | collapsable is doable as well |
| 07:56.00 | Nargiddley | niagara has an option to use that |
| 07:56.24 | Nargiddley | since its limited to 2 levels its limited as a general solution tho |
| 07:57.15 | Arrowmaster | its just a fluff looks nice feature right? it doesnt behave differently than a normal nested dropdown does it? |
| 07:57.45 | Nargiddley | its the treeview, dropdowns are controls in the right side |
| 07:58.12 | Nargiddley | and yeah its the same backend, just limited to 2 levels |
| 08:00.47 | Arrowmaster | something with buttons on the top or side that dont move but act like the first level in the tree but when you click on them they show the 2nd level under them as a tree in the normal treeview would be nice as a way of 'pages' |
| 08:01.00 | Arrowmaster | but it wouldnt work for all the optionstables |
| 08:03.18 | CIA-22 | 03ktrigger * r45166 10/branches/Numen/Numen.lua: |
| 08:03.18 | CIA-22 | Numen: |
| 08:03.18 | CIA-22 | - Got rid of that stupid border. |
| 08:04.55 | ckknight | oh yea, I was thinking about passing in the event name and the namespace to the method callback |
| 08:04.58 | ckknight | any thoughts on that? |
| 08:05.16 | ckknight | currently, you'd have to access it through AceLibrary("AceEvent-2.0").currentEvent |
| 08:05.21 | ckknight | which, by all accounts, is lame |
| 08:06.47 | Arrowmaster | yes add event name |
| 08:07.12 | Arrowmaster | make it like the wow OnEvent |
| 08:07.27 | Arrowmaster | self, event, arg1, arg2, ... |
| 08:07.44 | ckknight | well, yea, except namespace'll be passed too |
| 08:07.56 | ckknight | so it'd be :callback(ns, event, arg1, arg2, ...) |
| 08:08.02 | Arrowmaster | hmm that would only be for custom events right? |
| 08:08.10 | Arrowmaster | or would it call as "Blizzard" |
| 08:08.14 | ckknight | "Blizzard" is the namespace for blizzard events |
| 08:08.19 | ckknight | so "Blizzard" would be passed |
| 08:08.44 | Arrowmaster | hmm |
| 08:09.30 | ckknight | and I don't want to have it be one style for one and another style for the other |
| 08:09.46 | ckknight | above all, consistency is important |
| 08:09.56 | Arrowmaster | having to check ns == "Blizzard" all the time feels kinda lame but i would like the ability to register a blizzard and a custom event to the same method |
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| 08:10.29 | evl | God damn |
| 08:10.30 | evl | LOTRO |
| 08:10.39 | evl | who the fuck said it was similar to wow but looked better |
| 08:10.41 | evl | *lynch* |
| 08:10.55 | ckknight | well, you really wouldn't be checking it except in places where you register for the same callback in multiple places |
| 08:10.55 | Kyahx | Im guessing one of their PR reps said that |
| 08:11.00 | ckknight | and even then, you don't check it often |
| 08:11.53 | ckknight | i.e. if you register "Blizzard","PLAYER_LOGIN" and "LibJokerEvent-1.0"/"FullyInitialized", you could check just the name if you want or not check at all |
| 08:11.55 | Arrowmaster | ckknight: true since it would only get fired for non blizzard events if you registered a non blizzard event to it |
| 08:12.01 | ccKep | is there some way to get the itemid from an itemlink? |
| 08:12.12 | ckknight | right |
| 08:12.18 | ccKep | or, can I parse an itemlink like any ordinary string? |
| 08:12.26 | ckknight | it's basically just like how AceEvent is now, only with proper namespacing |
| 08:12.41 | Arrowmaster | ccKep: string.find("item:(%d):") or something like that |
| 08:13.13 | Arrowmaster | im horibile with lua regex |
| 08:13.27 | Arrowmaster | which isnt even regex |
| 08:13.35 | Arrowmaster | but im horibile with regex too |
| 08:13.38 | Kyahx | itemID = select(3, itemLink:find("item:([%d%.]+):")) |
| 08:13.52 | ckknight | str:match("item:(%d+):") |
| 08:13.59 | Arrowmaster | i was about to say that |
| 08:14.05 | ckknight | mine's bestest |
| 08:14.19 | Arrowmaster | i was about to say match instead of find |
| 08:14.30 | CIA-22 | 03helium * r45167 10Capping/ (Capping.toc locals/localization-zhTW.lua): |
| 08:14.30 | CIA-22 | Capping |
| 08:14.31 | CIA-22 | - updated zhTW localization |
| 08:14.34 | Kyahx | why is match better than find? |
| 08:14.47 | ccKep | thx |
| 08:14.51 | Arrowmaster | because its like find but without the first two returns |
| 08:16.05 | Arrowmaster | and faster than a bastardized find wraped in a select |
| 08:17.52 | Arrowmaster | ckknight: the OOish usage of the string lib on strings only works for strings right? (that probably makes no sense) |
| 08:18.04 | ckknight | *thumbs up* |
| 08:18.21 | ckknight | Kyahx: faster, don't have to deal with two starting vars |
| 08:19.13 | Arrowmaster | aka MyTable:insert("somestringiwanttoinsert") doesnt work like table.insert(MyTable, "somestringiwanttoinsert") |
| 08:19.47 | Arrowmaster | it only works on string.* stuff? |
| 08:28.43 | ckknight | Arrowmaster: local MyTable = setmetatable({}, table); MyTable:insert("somestringiwanttoinsert"); assert(MyTable[1] == "somestringiwanttoinsert") |
| 08:28.51 | ckknight | wait, hang on |
| 08:29.00 | ckknight | local MyTable = setmetatable({}, {__index=table}); MyTable:insert("somestringiwanttoinsert"); assert(MyTable[1] == "somestringiwanttoinsert") |
| 08:29.02 | ckknight | that's ity |
| 08:29.04 | ckknight | it* |
| 08:29.11 | ckknight | basically, strings already have the metatable by default |
| 08:29.15 | ckknight | but tables have no metatable by default |
| 08:30.10 | Arrowmaster | bah but having to do that for every table is no fun |
| 08:30.27 | ckknight | so just use table.insert |
| 08:30.41 | Arrowmaster | tinsert! |
| 08:30.52 | ckknight | I typically do local table_insert = _G.table.insert at the top |
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| 08:31.46 | ckknight | hrm, if an event fails to run successfully, does it seem kosher to remove the registration? |
| 08:31.47 | mitch0 | yo |
| 08:31.53 | ckknight | I mean, the user will get the error |
| 08:31.55 | ckknight | but only once |
| 08:32.02 | ckknight | not multiple times like it does nowadays |
| 08:32.09 | mitch0 | ckk: better than nothing |
| 08:32.15 | mitch0 | I guess |
| 08:32.23 | MoonWolf | i'd prefer to get all of them really |
| 08:32.28 | Laric | ckknight how come you are writing a new framework? |
| 08:32.43 | Arrowmaster | hes bored |
| 08:32.55 | ckknight | Laric: pet project, plus in hindsight I see that Ace2 has consistency issues as well as it could be optimized |
| 08:33.20 | ckknight | MoonWolf: but it seems to me that if it errors once, the error gets through and is less strenuous |
| 08:33.50 | Laric | so joker would be an ace3 so to speak if ever finished? |
| 08:33.51 | Arrowmaster | the only thing left is rewriting the blizzard interface and keeping it updated every patch even though he wouldnt be able to test it properly due to taint |
| 08:34.01 | MoonWolf | what if the same error repeats on multiple lines ? |
| 08:34.16 | ckknight | multiple lines? |
| 08:34.28 | MoonWolf | oh wait, event |
| 08:34.30 | MoonWolf | nevermind. |
| 08:34.36 | ckknight | yea, on a per-event basis |
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| 08:35.00 | MoonWolf | that would be fine i guess. |
| 08:35.10 | Speeddymon | does anyone know if it is possible to replace the default slash commands, or at the very least, hook them? |
| 08:35.30 | Arrowmaster | Speeddymon: default slash commands for what |
| 08:35.38 | Speeddymon | example: /follow |
| 08:35.40 | mitch0 | how accurate is GetPlayerMapPosition()? could it be used to measure distances to a 1yd (or better) accuracy? |
| 08:35.53 | Speeddymon | I'd like to make an addon that hooks it to let someone know when they are being followed |
| 08:36.07 | Arrowmaster | mitch0: update speed isnt very good afaik |
| 08:36.41 | Arrowmaster | Speeddymon: lol, but the person following them would have to run the addon |
| 08:37.07 | mitch0 | hohum |
| 08:37.26 | mitch0 | gotta find out the correct interact dstances for all races (and possibly genders) |
| 08:37.31 | mitch0 | teh sux |
| 08:37.38 | Arrowmaster | mitch0: actually im not sure on that, it might just be the worldmaps update speed isnt very good |
| 08:37.55 | mitch0 | I'll give it a shot |
| 08:37.56 | MoonWolf | why spend servertime on world map updates |
| 08:37.58 | Speeddymon | true, or maybe it could do a /say (playername) is following (playername2) |
| 08:38.15 | mitch0 | will also record the timestamps and do an estimate based on that, too |
| 08:38.15 | MoonWolf | people don't need to know to every 1/10 of a second where every partymember is. |
| 08:38.35 | Arrowmaster | yeah but the world map updates like every 3 seconds |
| 08:38.59 | mitch0 | well, I'll grab the coords whener distance check "flips" |
| 08:39.19 | MoonWolf | its the world map, its to show the general area you are in and where to go |
| 08:39.21 | mitch0 | I hate it already |
| 08:39.24 | MoonWolf | nothing more. |
| 08:39.56 | mitch0 | why can't interact distances and spell ranges work the same way? :( |
| 08:40.18 | MoonWolf | that would make things easy. |
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| 08:41.08 | Speeddymon | arrowmaster: any idea? |
| 08:41.40 | mitch0 | I'm not even sure how the interact distances work. it's sure that it depends on the player's model, but it might also depend on the target's model, too. that would really suck |
| 08:41.48 | CIA-22 | 03helium * r45168 10Capping/ (3 files in 2 dirs): |
| 08:41.48 | CIA-22 | Capping |
| 08:41.48 | CIA-22 | - more update on zhTW localization |
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| 08:42.31 | CIA-22 | 03helium * r45169 10ClosetGnome_Zone/ClosetGnome_Zone.toc: ClosetGnome_Zone: toc => 20100 |
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| 08:48.58 | Arrowmaster | Speeddymon: securehook FollowUnit() i would guess |
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| 08:50.48 | CIA-22 | CowTip: |
| 08:50.48 | CIA-22 | - added zhTW localization |
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| 09:04.05 | Speeddymon | Arrowmaster: thanks |
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| 09:15.25 | Fisker- | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=442893635&sid=1#3 |
| 09:15.52 | Thrae | !tl |
| 09:15.53 | ThraeBot | http://tinyurl.com/ywjph8 (Fisker-'s link) |
| 09:16.26 | Mikk | nice one thrae |
| 09:17.02 | Thrae | Mikk: Bot has a few new commands and features |
| 09:17.09 | Thrae | !help |
| 09:17.09 | ThraeBot | Triggers: !fc; !c; !co; !g; !te; !vs; !ar; !l; !tc; !ap; !api; !tl; !t; !i;. To get more information about a particular command, do !help <command>. Now /msg ThraeBot with your command and stop spamming the damn channel. |
| 09:17.23 | Fisker- | why would you do such a thing Thrae? :( |
| 09:17.42 | Thrae | Fisker-: Uhh, because it's easier to copy & paste? |
| 09:17.48 | Fisker- | double click? |
| 09:18.06 | Thrae | Lots of people use IRC clients that don't have such functionality :D |
| 09:18.18 | Thrae | It's not like it's an automatic thing. |
| 09:18.53 | [Ammo] | irssi + putty with url click option :) |
| 09:19.06 | Thrae | [Ammo]: You mean PieTTY ;) |
| 09:19.25 | Thrae | I'm using straight PuTTY here. Anyway, clickable links fail. |
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| 09:20.02 | [Ammo] | this one: http://www.xs4all.nl/~whaa/putty/ |
| 09:20.10 | Fisker- | wtf |
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| 09:21.27 | Fisker- | bah |
| 09:21.31 | Fisker- | can't user intarwebs |
| 09:21.34 | Fisker- | use* |
| 09:22.04 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight 07ckknight * r45171 10Joker/LibJoker-1.0/LibJoker-1.0.lua: |
| 09:22.04 | CIA-22 | LibJoker-1.0 - add :GetUID(), which other libraries and addons can use to ensure |
| 09:22.04 | CIA-22 | they have a proper UID throughout the whole addon sphere (instead of potentially |
| 09:22.04 | CIA-22 | one library's uids being the same as another library's uids). |
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| 09:23.21 | Fisker- | http://armory.wow-europe.com/item-info.xml?i=8799 <-why? :o |
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| 09:23.37 | Thrae | !i 8799 |
| 09:24.15 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight 07ckknight * r45172 10Joker/LibJokerEvent-1.0/ (. LibJokerEvent-1.0.lua LibJokerEvent-1.0.toc): LibJokerEvent-1.0 - initial import. See wiki for docs. |
| 09:24.18 | Thrae | !i book of mark of the wild vii |
| 09:24.24 | shingo | !help |
| 09:24.27 | Thrae | Ah, it just dies |
| 09:24.43 | Thrae | Must fix eventually. |
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| 09:25.55 | Arrowmaster | lol thats funny |
| 09:26.27 | ckknight | hrm |
| 09:26.28 | ckknight | ? |
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| 09:26.59 | ckknight | bah, the autodoc stuff wouldn't work for branches, would it? |
| 09:27.10 | Arrowmaster | Thrae: did the bot die because that item isnt in the us armory |
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| 09:28.24 | Thrae | Arrowmaster: Perhaps, or it died because it's a damn book |
| 09:29.32 | Fisker- | not on the us armory no :o |
| 09:29.46 | Fisker- | http://armory.wow-europe.com/item-info.xml?i=21878 <-liek |
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| 09:30.07 | evl | armory is so sloooow |
| 09:30.08 | Fisker- | i wonder who's got a ZZOLD Spellthread |
| 09:30.20 | Thrae | !i 21878 |
| 09:30.29 | Fisker- | another mean item btw |
| 09:30.47 | Thrae | http://www.gamefaqs.com/computer/mac/file/918256/18136 <-- anyone who never went through the WC3 unit quotes |
| 09:30.48 | Mikk | ZZOLD Spellthread didn't make it past beta |
| 09:31.28 | Fisker- | it's odd though |
| 09:31.42 | Fisker- | i consistently have like 2000 files from the US armory that doesn't "exist" on the EU armory |
| 09:31.54 | Fisker- | but i can find those items on the EU armory with no problems |
| 09:32.14 | Fisker- | like for some reason those 2000 items, and always the same items return blank files when i download it |
| 09:34.10 | yoshimo | i wanted to steal some translation from bigwigs and noticed that the initial emote of Onyxia if she gets aggro for the first time isn't translated and is written "--phase1" is this not used any more ? and how do i get a translation? |
| 09:35.24 | Thrae | Reason #26152 Pandarens should be in WoW -- one of their battle cries is "I bring PANDAMONIUM!" |
| 09:39.13 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight 07ckknight * r45173 10Joker/LibJokerEvent-1.0/LibJokerEvent-1.0.lua: LibJokerEvent-1.0 - change method to callback in a few places. |
| 09:39.43 | Fisker- | anyone if you can make diff compare whether or not a file is there between 2 directories and only output that_ |
| 09:39.44 | Fisker- | ? |
| 09:42.42 | ckknight | diff -r? |
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| 09:43.58 | Fisker- | nope |
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| 09:45.26 | Dhraga | am I doing something wrong, or have kcitems stopped showing items vendor buy prices ? |
| 09:45.46 | Dhraga | err... sell prices that is |
| 09:45.48 | cncfanatics | Dhraga, it doesn't like you |
| 09:45.56 | Dhraga | lol |
| 09:46.11 | Dhraga | i pressume not:P |
| 09:46.23 | Fisker- | gotta make some script to keep redownloading pages that doesn't exist i guess |
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| 09:51.39 | Fisker- | does the --no-clobber directive in wget just skip existing files? |
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| 10:00.21 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight 07ckknight * r45174 10Joker/LibJokerEvent-1.0/LibJokerEvent-1.0.lua: LibJokerEvent-1.0 - can now pass in arguments to :AddEventListener that will be called at the beginning of the callback. |
| 10:04.37 | ckknight | I'd been missing that in AceEvent |
| 10:05.48 | trh | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DNO6G4ApJQY <- if that is typical fox news, somebody should sue them ;) |
| 10:06.26 | ckknight | for what? |
| 10:06.57 | Gngsk | fear mongering? |
| 10:07.01 | trh | fud |
| 10:07.01 | evl | shhh |
| 10:07.06 | evl | keep americans feared |
| 10:07.09 | kebinusan | yellow journalism? its funny tho |
| 10:07.10 | evl | or else they might come after me |
| 10:07.16 | ckknight | Normal Person + Anonymity + Audience = Shitcock |
| 10:07.22 | kebinusan | I love PA |
| 10:07.44 | kebinusan | Do it for the lulz! |
| 10:07.54 | vhaarr | this blogger I saw was funny, he claimed he was credible because the only news sources he trusted was fox news, the blogosphere and his local newspaper |
| 10:08.04 | vhaarr | he might have been ironic, though |
| 10:08.18 | CIA-22 | 03kbranch * r45175 10GearDPS/Core.lua: |
| 10:08.18 | CIA-22 | GearDPS: |
| 10:08.18 | CIA-22 | - Fixed a problem where Battle Shout wasn't being handled. |
| 10:11.19 | Fisker- | shhh Trancer |
| 10:11.23 | Fisker- | trh |
| 10:11.25 | Fisker- | shhh |
| 10:11.34 | Fisker- | Or i'll blow up YOUR VAN |
| 10:11.37 | Fisker- | unless you buy a dog :( |
| 10:11.39 | Fisker- | my mortal enemy |
| 10:11.57 | Fisker- | I like how they found out who the masked guy was |
| 10:11.58 | Fisker- | :D |
| 10:12.45 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight 07ckknight * r45176 10Joker/LibJokerEvent-1.0/LibJokerEvent-1.0.lua: LibJokerEvent-1.0 - better handling of the implicit "Blizzard" namespace. |
| 10:15.27 | DarkImakuni | anyone having problems with WAU and WAU2? |
| 10:17.07 | charon | works fine here. what kind of problem? |
| 10:18.54 | DarkImakuni | I can't download WAU 1.9 and the WAU2 launcher can't find WowAceUpdater2.jnlp |
| 10:20.40 | Hjalte | If you're having too much problems, try updating your java though, you could try WUU |
| 10:20.51 | Hjalte | ~wuu |
| 10:20.54 | purl | hmm... wuu is a WoW UI Updater - Updates your WoW addons automagically from WoWAce, WoWI, Cosmos, and CurseGaming sites. Homepage is http://wuu.vagabonds.info/ |
| 10:22.20 | ckknight | oh no, gay sex pictures! |
| 10:22.26 | charon | DarkImakuni: i assume by "can't download" you mean the wowace site is overloaded as usual ... try the direct SF link http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=178751 |
| 10:22.28 | ckknight | anonymous is out to make us gay! |
| 10:23.23 | ckknight | and blow up our vans |
| 10:24.17 | Gngsk | heh |
| 10:24.39 | Fisker- | my girlfriend left me because some muscleguy appeared on my myspace to fuck another muscleguy when i'm not even remotely like that in build + my face is filled with acne! |
| 10:24.39 | Gngsk | that'd be a cool bumper sticker "Anonymous blew up my other van." |
| 10:24.51 | Fisker- | She probably just used it as an excuse |
| 10:24.56 | Gngsk | yeah |
| 10:24.57 | Fisker- | who can be that stupid? |
| 10:25.03 | Gngsk | it's middle america |
| 10:25.08 | Gngsk | need I say more? |
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| 10:25.26 | Fisker- | well not really |
| 10:25.44 | DarkImakuni | Hmm... WUU seems a bit bloated for what I want and the SF link works sort of... I can get the netinstall.exe but when opening the .application file it blows up my van :( |
| 10:26.01 | Gngsk | fuck |
| 10:26.06 | Gngsk | you just made me spit tea all over my keyboard |
| 10:26.31 | ckknight | lol, DarkImakuni |
| 10:26.37 | DarkImakuni | lol :) |
| 10:27.03 | DarkImakuni | WowAceUpdater.application complains about not being able to find WowAceUpdater_1_9_42_531\WowAceUpdater.exe.manifest |
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| 10:28.15 | Silviu- | DarkImakuni get wau 2 ;) |
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| 10:30.44 | Funkeh` | hi all |
| 10:30.52 | DarkImakuni | I can't download wau2. the java launcher complains about not being able to find a .jnlp file |
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| 10:31.41 | ckknight | Fisker-: those were twinks, btw, not "muscleguys" |
| 10:31.55 | Fisker- | well |
| 10:31.59 | Fisker- | they look a lot better than he did |
| 10:32.06 | Fisker- | well |
| 10:32.10 | Fisker- | crap |
| 10:32.42 | Fisker- | i mean she would obviously be able to see none of the persons were him |
| 10:32.52 | Fisker- | not that i think they're hot : |
| 10:32.54 | Fisker- | ::( |
| 10:33.30 | ckknight | ...right |
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| 10:38.05 | DarkImakuni | "Java cannot be installed on your computer. You are located in an embargoed country." WTF?? |
| 10:39.16 | evl | HAHA |
| 10:39.33 | evl | Now is it a curse or a blessing |
| 10:39.35 | DarkImakuni | I don't even know what "embargoed" means! :( |
| 10:39.49 | Gngsk | it means US doesn't trade with you |
| 10:39.58 | trh | maybe kuba? :P |
| 10:40.06 | trh | err.. cuba is it in english, or? |
| 10:40.14 | Gngsk | cuba |
| 10:40.51 | trh | everyone should know what it means since monkey island 1 - "the largo embargo" :P |
| 10:40.56 | DarkImakuni | But I thought the US did trade with UK... after all Bush and Blair traded kisses once... |
| 10:40.56 | Thrae | !t http://www.innocentenglish.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/2007/07/global-warming-newspaper-letter1.JPG <-- Daylight Savings Time causes global warming! |
| 10:40.57 | ThraeBot | Thrae: http://tinyurl.com/2xts92 <-- Daylight Savings Time causes global warming! |
| 10:41.31 | Funkeh` | Thrae: hows the new TT going? |
| 10:41.56 | Thrae | ~emulate Thrae |
| 10:41.56 | purl | Uh, the next update to TinyTip will be soon! Really! ...When I get around to it. |
| 10:42.00 | trh | Thrae: omg.. do only the stupids bash liberals or is that just perception? |
| 10:42.19 | Thrae | trh: I'm praying that was a joke column. |
| 10:42.21 | Funkeh` | too much slacking |
| 10:42.45 | Thrae | http://www.innocentenglish.com/img/political-clothing-label.jpg <-- |
| 10:44.25 | trh | Thrae: sometimes all hope is lost when it comes to that..... i remember a video where they asked someone from which state "KFC" is from... he didn't knew... a second later they asked him what it stands for "kentucky fried chicken" and asked again from which state it was |
| 10:44.49 | DarkImakuni | lol |
| 10:44.50 | trh | Thrae: (ofc he didn't knew it then) |
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| 10:52.51 | CIA-22 | 03broliant * r45177 10FuBar_ConvergeFu/ (4 files): FuBar_ConvergeFu: Added additional item-checks. |
| 10:53.41 | cncfanatics | oh no not again |
| 10:53.47 | cncfanatics | someone shoot brioliant |
| 10:53.48 | cncfanatics | please |
| 10:54.18 | ckknight | ? |
| 10:56.31 | Mikk | he had a spam party yesterday trying to get externals to work |
| 10:57.20 | Thrae | http://www.innocentenglish.com/funny-pics/funny-pics/funny-no-warning-sign.jpg |
| 10:57.29 | CIA-22 | 03broliant * r45178 10FuBar_ConvergeFu/ (FuBar_ConvergeFu.toc changelog.txt): FuBar_ConvergeFu: Updated ToC file and changelog. |
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| 11:00.32 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight 07ckknight * r45179 10Joker/LibJokerEvent-1.0/LibJokerEvent-1.0.lua: LibJokerEvent-1.0 - small optimization |
| 11:00.49 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight 07ckknight * r45180 10Joker/LibJokerTimer-1.0/ (. LibJokerTimer-1.0.lua LibJokerTimer-1.0.toc): LibJokerTimer-1.0 - initial import. |
| 11:02.46 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight 07ckknight * r45181 10Joker/LibJokerTimer-1.0/LibJokerTimer-1.0.lua: LibJokerTimer-1.0 - add a bit of documentation |
| 11:04.52 | Dustwhisper | where can i find some parserlib documentation? |
| 11:04.58 | ckknight | for 1.1 or 3.0? |
| 11:05.23 | ckknight | http://www.wowace.com/wiki/Parser-3.0 |
| 11:06.48 | Dustwhisper | thx |
| 11:06.52 | Dustwhisper | and it doesnt really matter to me |
| 11:06.55 | Dustwhisper | all code ive seen uses 1.1 |
| 11:07.05 | Dustwhisper | but I bet 3.0 is better and i might aswell start with it |
| 11:07.10 | Dustwhisper | seems i know nothing about either =D |
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| 11:08.46 | ckknight_ | bah |
| 11:08.48 | ckknight_ | Dustwhisper: the general difference is that I wrote 3.0, rophy wrote 1.1 and I like my API better |
| 11:09.21 | Thrae | Dustwhisper: Parser-1.1 used to have API on Wowace's Wiki, but it went kablooie |
| 11:09.42 | Funkeh` | gogle cache it |
| 11:09.45 | Funkeh` | google* |
| 11:09.58 | trh | ck's 3.0 api is higher level then the 1.1 api - 1.1 is basically the blizzard api naming the parts the events contain =) |
| 11:10.01 | Mikk | you think we didn't go hunting? |
| 11:10.29 | trh | whereas 3.0 compiles different events to logic categories |
| 11:11.01 | Dustwhisper | aye 3.0 looks nice |
| 11:11.17 | Dustwhisper | hmm whomever coded assessment has a really clean and nice style |
| 11:11.19 | Thrae | trh: No, Parser-1.1 is a hell of a lot more then that. The main meat of Parser-1.1 is really the localization using GlobalStrings.lua. |
| 11:11.29 | Thrae | trh: Which Parser-3.0 has too of course |
| 11:12.02 | trh | Thrae: yes, but from the programmers view it's still bascially register a event, get the named parts (dmg, source, target etc) - done |
| 11:12.11 | Dustwhisper | but what kind of style is Addonname.Foo = { method = function(...) .. end } is that a function ptr ? or well whatever youd call it |
| 11:12.55 | trh | Thrae: main difference to blizzard api is that you don't have to mess with finding out what is what in the event :) |
| 11:13.39 | Thrae | trh: Parser-1.1's documentation mainly clued you in with that |
| 11:15.59 | trh | Thrae: well... it's the difference i remember from using parser-1.1 and using parser-3.0 |
| 11:17.09 | CIA-22 | 03athou * r45182 10FuBar_RaidBuffFu/FuBar_RaidBuffFu.lua: |
| 11:17.09 | CIA-22 | FuBar_RaidBuffFu: |
| 11:17.09 | CIA-22 | - the highlighted buff is now in a different color |
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| 11:40.27 | Fisker- | anyone know if i can make irssi use another identd? |
| 11:40.50 | Fisker- | pretty annoying with faggotry irc servers disconnecting you for having root in your identd |
| 11:40.52 | Fisker- | qq moar |
| 11:41.06 | fireglow | yes well you shoudnt run irssi as root |
| 11:41.14 | fireglow | but |
| 11:41.18 | fireglow | sec lemme check |
| 11:41.45 | Thrae | Fisker-: irssi doesn't have identd. You're thinking of your nick / username, which you can very easily change. Look at the man pages. |
| 11:41.46 | |Pixel| | and it's not about irssi not using the 'right' identd |
| 11:41.53 | |Pixel| | it's your base system running it |
| 11:41.58 | fireglow | <PROTECTED> |
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| 11:43.19 | Fisker- | i know |Pixel| but mIRC for instance does it own identd service |
| 11:43.26 | Fisker- | and i know it's based on my username |
| 11:43.38 | |Pixel| | because windows doesn't come with a built-in identd |
| 11:43.46 | Thrae | fireglow just gave you your solution, Fisker-. |
| 11:45.07 | Fisker- | thanks >P |
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| 11:51.36 | CIA-22 | 03darkimakuni * r45185 10Visor2/Visor2.toc: |
| 11:51.36 | CIA-22 | Visor2: |
| 11:51.36 | CIA-22 | - Register with AddonLoader. Visor2 will now be loaded shortly after login. |
| 11:52.39 | CIA-22 | 03darkimakuni * r45186 10Visor2GUI/ (Bindings.xml Core.lua Visor2GUI.toc): |
| 11:52.39 | CIA-22 | Visor2GUI: |
| 11:52.39 | CIA-22 | - Register with AddonLoader (use /vzg to load) |
| 11:52.39 | CIA-22 | - Fix missing bindings text |
| 11:53.05 | cncfanatics | hmmm |
| 11:53.10 | cncfanatics | what does purl think about windows |
| 11:53.12 | cncfanatics | ~windows |
| 11:53.12 | purl | [windows] a 32 bit hack on a 16 bit operating system, originally designed for an 8 bit CPU, with a 4 bit system bus, made by a 2 bit company that can't stand 1 bit of competition... or the World of Warcraft bootloader, or the most important collection of bugs |
| 11:53.25 | DarkImakuni | rofl |
| 11:53.32 | Mikk | wow bootloader .. muaha |
| 11:53.41 | Thelyna | it's true |
| 11:53.46 | cncfanatics | well, there's no windows in my box :p |
| 11:54.04 | Thelyna | or 'a' WoW bootloader |
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| 12:02.35 | sylvanaar | whats a good server to level up horde? |
| 12:03.59 | cncfanatics | any tbh |
| 12:04.03 | cncfanatics | lvl'ing is a solo thing |
| 12:04.43 | [dRaCo] | any non-pvp ^^ |
| 12:05.33 | sylvanaar | ok - to level, then be somewhere I'll want to stay |
| 12:08.59 | CIA-22 | 03athou * r45187 10FuBar_RaidBuffFu/ (FuBar_RaidBuffFu.lua localization.lua): |
| 12:08.59 | CIA-22 | FuBar_RaidBuffFu: |
| 12:08.59 | CIA-22 | - Ctrl+Click to expand all lines |
| 12:08.59 | CIA-22 | - Moved missing buff count next to the buff icon for a better overview |
| 12:09.30 | [dRaCo] | us/eu? rp/pve/pvp? |
| 12:10.06 | mitch0 | can I create an "execute" option with aceoptionstable that is not listed, but can be "called"? |
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| 12:16.27 | DarkImakuni | http://ace.pastey.net/71538 <-- I give up with this bug. Why does the TeamSqueak_List window appear empty after opening, closing and re-opening it? |
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| 12:25.22 | ccKep | how do you close / reopen it? |
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| 12:27.13 | BankZ | What do you guys recommend for hot/dot timers? |
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| 12:30.54 | DarkImakuni | I open it by clicking on a FuBar icon, close it using a link inside the window, and reopen using the icon again |
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| 12:38.28 | Undine | anyone on a mac? |
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| 12:38.55 | fireglow | Undine: yeah, whats up? |
| 12:39.16 | Undine | trying to work out how to do window mode |
| 12:39.41 | fireglow | Apple+M i believe |
| 12:40.03 | Undine | yay |
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| 12:48.32 | DarkImakuni | rawr |
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| 12:48.48 | DarkImakuni | where's ckknight when you need him? |
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| 12:54.14 | BankZ | damn, seems like HotMan is broken, what would you recommend for a hot/dot timer? |
| 12:55.53 | Azurewrath | ClassTimer.. Chronometer.. |
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| 13:00.30 | BankZ | Classtimer doesnt work with click casting |
| 13:00.37 | CIA-22 | 03damjau * r45188 10WhoDrop/WhoDrop.Locales.enUS.lua: WhoDrop - Seperate locals |
| 13:00.42 | BankZ | guess I will have to go back to Chronometer |
| 13:01.04 | Leachim | I'm using Quartz |
| 13:01.29 | BankZ | Quartz doesnt work with click casting either |
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| 13:01.46 | Ominous | Bankz: how come |
| 13:01.46 | Leachim | Hm, well...ok^^ |
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| 13:02.02 | BankZ | Ominous: dont you have to have the person selected? |
| 13:02.06 | Ominous | Bankz: not much help unless you actually post a bug report with any bugs |
| 13:02.12 | Ominous | yes |
| 13:02.25 | Ominous | target or focus |
| 13:02.33 | BankZ | Ominous: With click casting you dont target |
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| 13:03.20 | BankZ | I wouldnt call it a bug, I would call it a feature |
| 13:03.49 | mjc_ | not having to target is exactly why click casting rocks face |
| 13:04.12 | BankZ | right but it messes with some timers :( |
| 13:04.32 | BankZ | looks like I am going back to Chronometer |
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| 13:10.57 | CIA-22 | 03clovenhoof * r45189 10RootsBidder/ (12 files in 5 dirs): |
| 13:10.57 | CIA-22 | RootsBidder: |
| 13:10.57 | CIA-22 | -Added Dialog to query different Dkp pools |
| 13:10.57 | CIA-22 | -General Code Cleanup |
| 13:12.08 | CIA-22 | 03mikk * r45190 10CraftList2/CraftList2.lua: |
| 13:12.08 | CIA-22 | CraftList2: |
| 13:12.08 | CIA-22 | - Reduce !craft query times by a factor of 3 by moving stuff out of the per-argument loop and various other optimizations |
| 13:12.08 | CIA-22 | - Add a garbage-collectable cache for tooltip info, which reduces time for consecutive searchs to near 0 |
| 13:12.08 | CIA-22 | These optimizations have NOT been done for other queries - !craft was just the worst offender. Feel free Athou :) |
| 13:14.56 | CIA-22 | 03damjau * r45191 10WhoDrop/ (6 files): WhoDrop - update quest rewards info |
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| 13:15.09 | CIA-22 | 03oridan * r45192 10ShoutReminder/ShoutReminder.lua: |
| 13:15.09 | CIA-22 | ShoutReminder: |
| 13:15.09 | CIA-22 | - added anchors to enable moveable candybars. |
| 13:15.47 | mjc_ | hmm |
| 13:15.54 | mjc_ | parallels isn't bad for running wow |
| 13:16.56 | shamus_ | why not run native? |
| 13:17.27 | CIA-22 | 03oridan * r45193 10ShoutReminder/ShoutReminder.lua: |
| 13:17.27 | CIA-22 | ShoutReminder: |
| 13:17.27 | CIA-22 | - remove some debug messages..... *sigh* |
| 13:17.50 | mjc_ | shamus_: certain tools |
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| 13:18.28 | mjc_ | I run it native on my other account |
| 13:19.23 | [KzM]Fatalis | why is refresh set to F9 in wau2 :X |
| 13:20.27 | Mecdemort | is there an event fired when the player is guaranteed to be logging out, but variables are still accessable? |
| 13:21.35 | vhaarr | PLAYER_LOGOUT, but it also fires on a reloadui |
| 13:21.47 | vhaarr | but I found it to be unreliable |
| 13:22.08 | Mecdemort | vhaarr: reload is fine, but ya I read it was unreliable too |
| 13:22.18 | vhaarr | I just hook Logout and Quit |
| 13:22.27 | vhaarr | http://svn.wowace.com/wowace/trunk/ClosetGnome_Switcher/ClosetGnome_Switcher.lua |
| 13:22.48 | Mecdemort | ok i'll take a looksee |
| 13:24.42 | harldephin | uhm.. what's happened to the add-on that's coloured my friends' list before ? |
| 13:25.09 | vhaarr | it's still there, it was just extended a bit |
| 13:26.27 | harldephin | then i might not quite remember which one it was. i thought it was AuldLangSyne, but that doesn't seem to be it. |
| 13:27.14 | vhaarr | no, it's ALS |
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| 13:27.28 | vhaarr | remember that it has to see your friends before it colors them |
| 13:27.33 | vhaarr | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:29.21 | harldephin | but it doesn't even have the corresponding options in niagara anymore (e.g. for a "compact" display of the data about friends, like classes etc.) |
| 13:30.09 | vhaarr | it uses a tag-based system now |
| 13:31.13 | harldephin | meaning ? - DogTag-1.0 needed ? it's there and enabled |
| 13:32.01 | CIA-22 | 03arith * r45194 10AtlasLoot/ (Constants/constants.tw.lua TableRegister/loottables.tw.lua): |
| 13:32.01 | CIA-22 | AtlasLoot: |
| 13:32.01 | CIA-22 | - zhTW update |
| 13:32.03 | CIA-22 | 03damjau * r45195 10WhoDrop/: WhoDrop - add external(Babble-Quest-2.2) |
| 13:32.04 | CIA-22 | 03arith * r45196 10AtlasLoot_RepFactions/rep.tw.lua: |
| 13:32.04 | CIA-22 | AtlasLoot_RepFactions: |
| 13:32.04 | CIA-22 | - zhTW update |
| 13:32.34 | harldephin | my friends' list is just showing the standard blizzard stuff, whether i /who or mouseover anyone or not |
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| 13:35.12 | harldephin | hm. no TheSocial-1.0 |
| 13:36.28 | CIA-22 | 03rabbit * r45197 10SinkLib/Sink-1.0/Sink-1.0.lua: .Sink-1.0: Fix when an addons saved output sink is not available. |
| 13:37.44 | harldephin | that's it then. it's working again. :) |
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| 13:42.37 | Mecdemort | vhaarr: I havnt done hooks yet so just to double check, the 2 :hook calls and the 2 functions is all that's necessary yes? |
| 13:43.15 | vhaarr | yes |
| 13:43.29 | Mecdemort | goodie, i think i've got it then |
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| 13:50.27 | Mecdemort | hmm will either of these trigger on reload? |
| 13:51.08 | vhaarr | no |
| 13:51.19 | vhaarr | then you need to hook ReloadUI |
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| 13:52.13 | Mecdemort | i 'spose i could for testing, but functionally it's not needed |
| 13:53.53 | CIA-22 | 03damjau * r45198 10AspectsBar/ (AspectsBar.toc embeds.xml): AspectsBar - add embeds.xml |
| 13:54.30 | CIA-22 | 03damjau * r45199 10NextStep/ (NextStep.toc embeds.xml): NextStep: add embeds.xml |
| 13:54.31 | CIA-22 | 03damjau * r45200 10TrackingBar/ (TrackingBar.toc embeds.xml): TrackingBar - add embeds.xml |
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| 13:56.04 | Dustwhisper | where can I find a list of all members passed in the struct/table for a RegisterParserEvent function ? |
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| 14:00.47 | Dustwhisper | what would be the correct sourceId for a registerparserevent when i want to reigster all damage from anyone in a party/raid or myself ? |
| 14:01.02 | Dustwhisper | or do I have to setup 3 handlers one for player one for partyN and one for raidn ? |
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| 14:04.12 | Dustwhisper | or just not any id at all i suppose )D |
| 14:14.35 | Dustwhisper | So does thi lua thing have any smart way to concatenate nil values without having to check explicitly for it ? or is just SetText("asdf"..foo.." more shizzle") not good? |
| 14:15.35 | JoshBorke | SetText("asdf"..(foo or '').."more shizzle") |
| 14:20.12 | Dustwhisper | testBox.SetText( "Dmg from: "..(eventInfo.recipientName or '').." am: "..(eventInfo.amount or '').."!") |
| 14:20.14 | Dustwhisper | like that ? |
| 14:21.56 | Mecdemort | bah, accidently hooking reload to logout ftl |
| 14:22.29 | haste | how od you accidently hook reload to logout? |
| 14:22.46 | Mecdemort | copy/paste and forget to change all the values ;p |
| 14:23.00 | haste | why would you copy/paste such code :p ? |
| 14:23.32 | Mecdemort | except for the names my reload hook is identicle to my logout hook |
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| 14:28.28 | Undine | rebuiling interface on a new machine. fun, indeed :( |
| 14:28.44 | fireglow | ;( |
| 14:29.04 | Mecdemort | why not just copy over the wtf files? |
| 14:29.17 | Undine | the old machine is dead |
| 14:29.23 | Mecdemort | well, that'll do it |
| 14:29.41 | Undine | hopefully just the psu so i can resurrect it during the week |
| 14:30.09 | Undine | meanwhile, my macbook pro is seeing soem really action |
| 14:30.23 | Undine | next time i will backup in multiple places :) |
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| 14:33.23 | Mecdemort | i use a gmail account as backup ;p theres even a firefox plugin for it |
| 14:33.32 | Clovenhoof | Filehamster is a great tool as well |
| 14:38.24 | CIA-22 | 03clovenhoof * r45201 10RootsBidder/ (. RootsBidder.lua): |
| 14:38.24 | CIA-22 | RootsBidder: |
| 14:38.24 | CIA-22 | - Fixed Typo in Externals |
| 14:38.27 | trh | Mecdemort: yeah.. give google all your data :P |
| 14:39.12 | Mecdemort | trh: if google really wants to know what addons im using, im not too worried |
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| 14:44.03 | CIA-22 | 03athou * r45202 10FuBar_RaidBuffFu/FuBar_RaidBuffFu.lua: |
| 14:44.03 | CIA-22 | FuBar_RaidBuffFu: |
| 14:44.03 | CIA-22 | - shows not counted buffs last in the tooltip |
| 14:45.16 | Mecdemort | hmm is GetMoney not available when player_login is fired? |
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| 14:58.37 | Undine | parrot or sct? |
| 14:58.49 | dnmcgoy | I'm currently trying to secureactionbuttons working and I'm seeing behavior I dont' know how to track down. Here's the pasted code (its pretty short) http://wowi.pastey.net/71548 |
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| 15:00.06 | dnmcgoy | Basically two things are occuring I don't know how to fix. 1) the spell is attached and if I click on it, it is cast, but its picture isn't shown (it just shows an empty action button) and secondly, when I press the button, it becomes highlighted, but doesn't unhighlight like a normal action button does |
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| 15:04.54 | JoshBorke | Undine: whichever you want to use |
| 15:06.18 | Undine | well, i've had sct for ages. wondering what Parrot might offer instead |
| 15:09.35 | art3mis | parrot is a bit prettier |
| 15:09.36 | DarkImakuni | Try it and see. That's my advice. I tried and saw, and fell in love with Parrot |
| 15:10.03 | art3mis | sct a bit more straightforward without billions of options in submenus that are typical for ace projects ;) |
| 15:10.14 | Undine | woah, configuration mode is hoopy |
| 15:11.30 | DarkImakuni | is there a mod which looks and acts like pitbull, but doesn't take up 2.5MiB of memory? |
| 15:11.34 | vhaarr | agUF |
| 15:12.35 | art3mis | i think i like stellaruf |
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| 15:12.46 | art3mis | was mucking with it last night |
| 15:13.06 | art3mis | its just a basic uf which is al i need |
| 15:13.17 | Dustwhisper | ok so if you create a window and have an editbox created with that window as parent, how do you arbitrarily point to that editbox ? self.MainWindow.editboxname:SetText doesn't quite seem to be functioning for me |
| 15:13.41 | Dustwhisper | from another function that is |
| 15:13.53 | JoshBorke | editBox:SetText where editBox is a reference to the edit box widget |
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| 15:14.33 | Dustwhisper | so how do I get the reference ? |
| 15:14.42 | JoshBorke | whenever you create it |
| 15:14.49 | JoshBorke | either save it somewhere or give it a global name |
| 15:14.50 | Dustwhisper | ah so i have to save that reference |
| 15:15.03 | Dustwhisper | what is the best? I guess global name is pollution? |
| 15:15.17 | JoshBorke | people say global name is pollution, but it is your decision |
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| 15:19.26 | Amadeo | Some video game thing is coming on TV at 12 EST |
| 15:19.26 | Amadeo | lol |
| 15:20.01 | Dustwhisper | Yes ? |
| 15:20.14 | Amadeo | Yeah, on CBS |
| 15:20.17 | Amadeo | Not really sure what it is |
| 15:20.20 | art3mis | ama: there's a whole hdchannel devotedto gaming |
| 15:20.21 | Amadeo | Just saw that it was coming on |
| 15:20.27 | Amadeo | yeah? |
| 15:20.30 | Amadeo | what is it about? |
| 15:20.41 | art3mis | complete with starcraft comps and 30min "shows" that are basically game ads |
| 15:20.54 | art3mis | hell they even have guildwars contests |
| 15:20.55 | Amadeo | haha |
| 15:20.57 | Amadeo | that's funny |
| 15:21.00 | Amadeo | do they show any WoW stuff? |
| 15:21.07 | art3mis | havent seen any yet |
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| 15:31.50 | Amadeo | lol |
| 15:31.52 | Amadeo | this is funny |
| 15:31.54 | Amadeo | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=442893770&sid=1 |
| 15:32.10 | Amadeo | Kalgan gets owned |
| 15:32.20 | Fisker- | is that new? |
| 15:32.37 | Amadeo | that one is |
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| 15:33.16 | Cheads | uhmm anyone remember the frame name of that take-over-base-progress-indicator |
| 15:33.43 | break19 | i just love dumb horde. :P |
| 15:33.55 | Amadeo | Cheads: Zero Wing? :P |
| 15:34.29 | Cheads | annoying.. it's on top of my minimap.. blergh |
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| 15:34.57 | break19 | my hunter farmed an orc hunter for hks in sent hill.. like 6 times.. he'd rez, run off on his non-epic mount.. I'd run him down and kill him again.. he finally was able to slow me down by runnin thru a bunch of lowbie mobs that aggrod us both and knocked me off my mount... he hearthed before I could get in firing range. lol |
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| 15:35.25 | break19 | but I got 6 khs outta the deal :P |
| 15:35.29 | break19 | hks* |
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| 15:39.16 | Dustwhisper | how do you get the current time/tick or snapshot time |
| 15:39.30 | vhaarr | time(), GetTime() |
| 15:39.53 | vhaarr | or date() |
| 15:42.10 | Dustwhisper | thank you |
| 15:47.12 | Dustwhisper | Atleast some progress |
| 15:47.22 | Dustwhisper | ive managed to create a simple gui and log all combat events and heals etc |
| 15:47.34 | Dustwhisper | now i just need to find a smart way to structure it based on time |
| 15:48.26 | Cryect | what are you doing? |
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| 15:49.59 | Dustwhisper | a timeline based castmonitor |
| 15:50.07 | Dustwhisper | like battlehistory |
| 15:51.15 | Dustwhisper | Im shit though so it's very shitty tbh =D |
| 15:51.19 | Cryect | k, if you were doing just normal combatlog events would tell you I'm planning to let Relog have modules get combatlog data, filter it etc |
| 15:51.43 | Cryect | That though really needs all the exciting UNIT_CAST events |
| 15:51.49 | Dustwhisper | ah |
| 15:52.00 | Dustwhisper | well in the beginning im just building it to check out mages cast rotations and dps loss |
| 15:52.13 | Dustwhisper | then i want to add inn everones casts ontop of that again as a full battle history |
| 15:52.24 | Dustwhisper | so you can see down to who is casting what on tank when tank dies etc |
| 15:52.33 | Ascalia | <first commit incoming> ;) |
| 15:52.48 | Dustwhisper | i call it RaidNazi =D |
| 15:53.16 | JoshBorke | lol, "exciting" |
| 15:53.30 | Cryect | I think it I would store it as a set of start and stop times plus another table for what spell |
| 15:53.52 | Dustwhisper | aye i just need to learn about maps and structs and tables and all that jazz |
| 15:53.54 | Dustwhisper | and how it works |
| 15:53.54 | Cryect | with individual tables for each player to make it simple |
| 15:54.02 | JoshBorke | maps? |
| 15:54.02 | CIA-22 | 03ascalia * r45203 10TradeskillInfo/TradeskillData.lua: |
| 15:54.02 | CIA-22 | TradeskillInfo: |
| 15:54.02 | CIA-22 | - updated gnomish engineering schematics |
| 15:54.15 | Cryect | you don't need to know a thing about mapping in lua |
| 15:54.22 | Cryect | unless you want to do something really complex |
| 15:54.28 | Dustwhisper | oh ok cool |
| 15:54.32 | JoshBorke | wtf is mapping? |
| 15:55.07 | Cryect | Like metatables, unless he just means normal string hashmapping |
| 15:55.10 | Cryect | which is built in |
| 15:55.27 | Cryect | C++ calls it mapping |
| 15:55.29 | Dustwhisper | so something like one table/array for each person in raid which stores Time + spelltype etc for each event ? |
| 15:55.53 | Ascalia | commit successfully committed? ^^ |
| 15:56.06 | break19 | Ascalia: thats what it means :) |
| 15:56.14 | Cryect | I would store just the name of the spell, maybe a number that says if the spell casted successfully or if interupted |
| 15:56.36 | Ascalia | good to know |
| 15:56.36 | Cryect | store elsewhere any extra info if you want on spells unless you want spell stats also |
| 15:56.50 | Dustwhisper | i want spellstats too |
| 15:56.54 | Dustwhisper | actually i want in my timeline |
| 15:56.59 | Dustwhisper | to mouseover any segment/cast |
| 15:57.05 | Dustwhisper | and see that players mana pool and how much dmg that spell did |
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| 15:57.12 | Dustwhisper | and how much dmg that person has accumulated on the target |
| 15:57.16 | Dustwhisper | or in the fight |
| 15:57.58 | Qaarh | Hello everyone |
| 15:58.07 | Ascalia | my updater doesn't find the new commit yet, howl ong does it take to be live? |
| 15:58.33 | JoshBorke | at most 20 minutes |
| 15:58.53 | Ascalia | thanks |
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| 16:08.45 | PanickBR | where can i see cursor events? |
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| 16:22.20 | vhaarr | almost all known events are listed on wowwiki |
| 16:24.26 | PanickBR | ya |
| 16:24.31 | PanickBR | i was looking in wowiki |
| 16:24.34 | PanickBR | but |
| 16:24.42 | PanickBR | theres no cursor events |
| 16:24.43 | PanickBR | 12,00=01\ |
| 16:24.50 | PanickBR | only Cursor_Update |
| 16:25.25 | Qaarh | anyone know if there is a lib that can extract the damage taken per second on a target / focus target or the like? I've been trying to disassemble some of the damage counters out there, but I can't seem to find it |
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| 16:30.47 | PanickBR | do you guys use any Editor to help you or just the old one NotePad? |
| 16:31.34 | Matrix110 | Notepad++ |
| 16:31.38 | Matrix110 | SciTE |
| 16:31.39 | Matrix110 | etc. |
| 16:31.58 | Ascalia | Sc1 |
| 16:33.27 | PanickBR | ok |
| 16:33.28 | PanickBR | thx |
| 16:36.42 | Dustwhisper | any with a syntax highlighter? |
| 16:40.12 | Industrial | vi improved |
| 16:40.13 | PanickBR | im using Blua, its highlight Script functions |
| 16:40.14 | Industrial | vim.org |
| 16:40.22 | PanickBR | but not ace functions |
| 16:40.23 | [dRaCo] | ultraedit |
| 16:41.16 | PanickBR | how can i delete a spell from the spellbook? |
| 16:41.24 | PanickBR | im cant find this function |
| 16:41.24 | PanickBR | lol |
| 16:46.19 | Amadeo | lol, Nitrana and Vhell were on TV |
| 16:52.14 | Saint-N | who? |
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| 16:52.47 | Amadeo | two popular/controversial PvPers |
| 16:52.51 | Amadeo | I like Vhell, don't care much for Nitrana :) |
| 16:53.04 | Saint-N | how are the controversial |
| 16:53.05 | Saint-N | ? |
| 16:53.17 | Amadeo | Controversial just as far as how good they are |
| 16:53.18 | Saint-N | cuz they cheat like nymphos? |
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| 16:53.42 | Saint-N | oh |
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| 16:57.14 | Saroz | vhaarr, there are no scroll areas selectable when selecting "SCT" in Sink, the option is disabled |
| 16:58.47 | vhaarr | Saroz: that's a dewdrop bug, I think |
| 16:59.15 | CIA-22 | 03athou * r45204 10FuBar_RaidBuffFu/FuBar_RaidBuffFu.lua: |
| 16:59.15 | CIA-22 | FuBar_RaidBuffFu: |
| 16:59.15 | CIA-22 | - hide the tooltip when detached if empty |
| 17:00.48 | CIA-22 | 03ascalia * r45205 10TradeskillInfo/TradeskillData.lua: |
| 17:00.48 | CIA-22 | TradeskillInfo: |
| 17:00.48 | CIA-22 | - updated goblin engineering schematics |
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| 17:13.24 | vhaarr | Saroz: mikk can probably help you out if you give him the details; what addon it is, what kind of aceoptions table it's connected to, etc |
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| 17:21.12 | Saroz | ErrorMonster's Output option :p |
| 17:21.26 | ckknight | hey all |
| 17:21.32 | Saroz | lo |
| 17:21.55 | durcyn | Saroz: oh, that should be Sink |
| 17:23.58 | CIA-22 | 03archarodim * r45206 10Decursive/ (7 files): |
| 17:23.59 | CIA-22 | Decursive: |
| 17:23.59 | CIA-22 | - If some debuffs were filtered out while in combat, the MUFs of the afflicted units were not updated once the battle was over. |
| 17:23.59 | CIA-22 | - If you changed the cure priorities while some afflictions were already displayed in the MUFs, their color was not updated. |
| 17:23.59 | CIA-22 | - Added a note in Todo.txt about adding a special status when a unit is under the Unstable Affliction. |
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| 17:26.38 | Silviu- | hey ckknight |
| 17:26.45 | ckknight | hey |
| 17:26.48 | ckknight | hey, it's Kaelten |
| 17:27.17 | Kaelten | hrm, what did I do? |
| 17:27.27 | ckknight | hey Kaelten, you think it'd be at all possible to have Autodoc run for branches? |
| 17:27.58 | Kaelten | it should be running for all commits I believe |
| 17:28.11 | Kaelten | hrm or did I limit it? |
| 17:28.25 | CIA-22 | 03arith * r45207 10AtlasLoot/TableRegister/loottables.tw.lua: |
| 17:28.25 | CIA-22 | AtlasLoot: |
| 17:28.25 | CIA-22 | - zhTW update |
| 17:28.53 | ckknight | Kaelten: well, then what path can I access it at? case {:/API_Docs/} starts at trunk |
| 17:29.09 | Kaelten | checking if I limited it |
| 17:34.16 | CIA-22 | 03arith * r45208 10AtlasLoot_BCInstances/AtlasLoot_BCInstances.toc: |
| 17:34.16 | CIA-22 | AtlasLoot_BCInstances: |
| 17:34.16 | CIA-22 | - update zhTW TOC |
| 17:34.24 | CIA-22 | 03arith * r45209 10AtlasLoot_SetsandPvP/AtlasLoot_SetsandPvP.toc: |
| 17:34.24 | CIA-22 | AtlasLoot_SetsandPvP: |
| 17:34.24 | CIA-22 | - update zhTW TOC |
| 17:34.31 | CIA-22 | 03arith * r45210 10AtlasLoot_RepFactions/AtlasLoot_RepFactions.toc: |
| 17:34.31 | CIA-22 | AtlasLoot_RepFactions: |
| 17:34.31 | CIA-22 | - update zhTW TOC |
| 17:34.43 | CIA-22 | 03arith * r45211 10AtlasLoot_OldInstances/AtlasLoot_OldInstances.toc: |
| 17:34.43 | CIA-22 | AtlasLoot_OldInstances: |
| 17:34.43 | CIA-22 | - update zhTW TOC |
| 17:35.07 | CIA-22 | 03arith * r45212 10AtlasLoot_WorldLoot/AtlasLoot_WorldLoot.toc: |
| 17:35.07 | CIA-22 | AtlasLoot_WorldLoot: |
| 17:35.07 | CIA-22 | - update zhTW TOC |
| 17:39.53 | Dustwhisper | btw with loggerhead and combatlogs and WWS |
| 17:40.02 | Dustwhisper | how exactly do you get the exact fight you want out of a 20Mb combatlog |
| 17:40.30 | Saroz | hihi, no KTM users in my raid now, ftw |
| 17:41.10 | CIA-22 | 03arith * r45213 10AtlasLoot/TableRegister/loottables.tw.lua: |
| 17:41.10 | CIA-22 | AtlasLoot: |
| 17:41.10 | CIA-22 | - zhTW update |
| 17:42.02 | CIA-22 | 03arith * r45214 10AtlasLoot/TableRegister/loottables.tw.lua: |
| 17:42.02 | CIA-22 | AtlasLoot: |
| 17:42.02 | CIA-22 | - zhTW update, fixed missing lang code |
| 17:44.15 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight 07ckknight * r45215 10Joker/ (3 files in 3 dirs): |
| 17:44.15 | CIA-22 | .LibJoker-1.0 - add :FinalizeLibrary("major") as a way to show that the library |
| 17:44.15 | CIA-22 | is complete. Kinda wish this wasn't required, though, but it's the only way I |
| 17:44.15 | CIA-22 | can think of without relying on ADDON_LOADED, which could theoretically happen |
| 17:44.15 | CIA-22 | after one of the libraries is mixed in. |
| 17:45.51 | CIA-22 | 03cryect * r45216 10Recount/ (Recount.lua Sync.lua Tracker.lua): |
| 17:45.51 | CIA-22 | Recount - Now limits event messages that can be sent based on AceComm bandwidth available |
| 17:45.51 | CIA-22 | - Adds realtime graphs for upstream traffic, downstream traffic, and AceComm Bandwidth available (accessed via "/recount realtime") |
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| 17:56.46 | CIA-22 | 03cryect * r45217 10GraphLib/Graph-1.0/Graph-1.0.lua: GraphLib - Had to apply a slight normalization factor to the exponetial normalization for realtime graphs since the numbers seemed to be slightly off from the real numbers |
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| 18:11.41 | Kaelten | ya it is limited to trunk |
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| 18:17.43 | ckknight | Kaelten: could it be somehow not limited to trunk? |
| 18:18.09 | Kaelten | I'll make it work on branches and trunk post server move |
| 18:19.00 | Kaelten | I don't think it should work for tags |
| 18:19.03 | Kaelten | ... hrm or should it |
| 18:23.07 | mjc_ | anyone have suggestions about which bag mod doesn't suck |
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| 18:23.56 | Ascalia | which one sucks? |
| 18:24.05 | mjc_ | baggins, sanity |
| 18:24.11 | vhaarr | bagnon is nice |
| 18:24.44 | mjc_ | Cryect: could you add a feature that automagically teleportimates recount into other people's addon folders so they can see how leet it is :o! |
| 18:26.30 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight 07ckknight * r45218 10Joker/LibJoker-1.0/LibJoker-1.0.lua: LibJoker-1.0 - call :OnInitialize and :OnEnable on addons |
| 18:28.57 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight 07ckknight * r45219 10Joker/LibJoker-1.0/LibJoker-1.0.lua: LibJoker-1.0 - fire :OnExternalLibraryLoad on previously finalized libraries, so they can check the existence of other libraries. |
| 18:30.27 | CIA-22 | 03phyber * r45220 10FuBar_DigiCamFu/DigiCamFu.lua: |
| 18:30.27 | CIA-22 | FuBar_DigiCamFu: |
| 18:30.27 | CIA-22 | - tonumber(ssQuality) to fix string comparison to number error. |
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| 18:36.35 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight 07ckknight * r45221 10Joker/LibJoker-1.0/LibJoker-1.0.lua: LibJoker-1.0 - trigger events "AddonInitialized" and "AddonEnabled" when those occur and LibJokerEvent-1.0 is available. |
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| 18:38.49 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight 07ckknight * r45222 10Joker/LibJoker-1.0/LibJoker-1.0.lua: LibJoker-1.0 - instead of using OnExternalLibraryLoad, just call it OnLibraryLoad. |
| 18:42.40 | mjc_ | simpsons movie was disappointing |
| 18:43.51 | ckknight | figured it would be |
| 18:45.54 | mjc_ | ckknight: no wonder you aren't 70 yet; you spend all day hacking :o |
| 18:46.03 | mjc_ | nothing really wrong with that but still |
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| 18:46.18 | Mecdemort | ok how do you make sure if your hook throws an error it still calls the function? |
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| 18:46.38 | ckknight | yep, mjc_ |
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| 18:59.40 | CIA-22 | 03saroz * r45223 10PerfectTargets/ (Core.lua Libs/ Localization.lua PerfectTargets.toc): |
| 18:59.40 | CIA-22 | PerfectTargets: |
| 18:59.40 | CIA-22 | - Use Babble-Spell |
| 18:59.40 | CIA-22 | - Some code cleanups |
| 18:59.40 | CIA-22 | - Clamp to screen |
| 18:59.40 | CIA-22 | - Use LoadManager |
| 18:59.40 | CIA-22 | - Update TOC |
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| 19:01.10 | CIA-22 | 03saroz * r45224 10PerfectTargets/PerfectTargets.toc: PerfectTargets: Don't have Compost on TOC |
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| 19:04.05 | CIA-22 | 03clovenhoof * r45225 10RootsBidder/ (Comms/ GUI/ Libs/ Textures/): |
| 19:04.05 | CIA-22 | RootsBidder: |
| 19:04.05 | CIA-22 | - Now with Full support for Alts |
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| 19:06.25 | mjc_ | http://www.engadget.com/2007/07/29/bluetooth-soundball-makes-a-racket-when-kicked/ |
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| 19:09.09 | break19 | mjc_: that is just too cool. |
| 19:09.13 | mjc_ | yeah |
| 19:09.40 | mjc_ | http://gizmodo.com/gadgets/daredevil/typhoon-strike-fighter-dangerously-closing-on-hercules-c130s-cargo-bay-283575.php |
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| 19:12.53 | TecnoBrat | Weird.. |
| 19:12.59 | TecnoBrat | I just installed Cartographer_HeatMap |
| 19:13.12 | break19 | mjc: fake. |
| 19:13.13 | TecnoBrat | and now I get a hard crash (with crashlog) when loading into the world |
| 19:13.18 | AKX | TecnoBrat, yeah |
| 19:13.23 | AKX | HeatMap is unstable. |
| 19:13.30 | AKX | My bad. |
| 19:13.41 | TecnoBrat | a mod should never cause that to happen tho |
| 19:13.52 | AKX | TecnoBrat: HeatMap creates 2500 texture objects. |
| 19:14.00 | TecnoBrat | rofl, nice |
| 19:14.26 | AKX | Pending a rewrite... |
| 19:16.10 | break19 | TecnoBrat: whats it supposed to do? |
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| 19:16.42 | AKX | break19: It's supposed to draw a "heatmap" overlay on Cartographer for places you've been recently |
| 19:17.02 | break19 | ah. that sounds intriguing.. |
| 19:17.13 | AKX | Yeah, it did work until a couple patches ago. |
| 19:17.21 | AKX | I'll be rewriting it to be saner when I get around to it. |
| 19:17.34 | break19 | heh |
| 19:18.22 | break19 | there.. now you have a round tuit.. get busy :p |
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| 19:22.07 | break19 | well... *I* thought it was "teh funnay" :/ |
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| 19:29.59 | CIA-22 | 03roartindon * r45226 10Assessment/ (4 files in 3 dirs): |
| 19:29.59 | CIA-22 | Assessment |
| 19:30.00 | CIA-22 | - First pass at more detailed death information. |
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| 19:39.39 | CIA-22 | 03vincent * r45227 10WeaponRebuff/localization/WeaponRebuff-deDE.lua: |
| 19:39.39 | CIA-22 | WeaponRebuff: |
| 19:39.39 | CIA-22 | <PROTECTED> |
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| 19:45.24 | Leachim | I've updated GG_Tooltip ( http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info6235-GG_ToolTIp.html ) for 2.1 and AceHook 2.1, I think^^ At last it works^^ But when I mouseover over the XPerl Player Frame I get the following error message: GG_ToolTip\GG_ToolTip.lua:19: attempt to index field 'SetUnit' (a nil value) (tail call): ?: <in C code>: in function `SetUnit' XPerl\XPerl.lua:1001: in function `XPerl_PlayerTip' <string>:"*:OnEnter":2: in functio |
| 19:45.38 | Leachim | Oh well, hard to read^^ |
| 19:45.40 | CIA-22 | 03pettigrow * r45228 10BigWigs/TheEye/Kaelthas.lua: BigWigs: TheEye/Kaelthas: frFR Update |
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| 19:47.39 | charon | any grid experts around? |
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| 19:51.00 | Hjalte | charon, just ask. |
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| 20:01.09 | Funkeh` | hey |
| 20:01.13 | Leachim | It's a pity that no one can help me. Never mind.^^ |
| 20:01.17 | Leachim | Hello^^ |
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| 20:01.29 | ckknight | what's with the ^^? |
| 20:01.34 | ckknight | hey Funkeh` |
| 20:01.51 | Funkeh` | ^^ is the new cool |
| 20:02.04 | Amadeo | ckknight: You have to be into anime to do those faces or something |
| 20:02.07 | Amadeo | that's the new thing |
| 20:02.15 | ckknight | ugh |
| 20:02.20 | ckknight | ( º Y º ) |
| 20:02.25 | Amadeo | haha |
| 20:02.30 | Leachim | ^^ = :) smiley :P |
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| 20:02.47 | NightHawkTheSane | its not so much a smiley, though. at best it's just two eyes. |
| 20:02.50 | NightHawkTheSane | so it'd really kind of stupid. :P |
| 20:02.55 | ckknight | yea |
| 20:03.01 | NightHawkTheSane | s/'d/'s/ |
| 20:03.37 | Shirik | ckknight: You seriously didn't know what ^^ is? |
| 20:03.52 | ckknight | I did, I just thought it was stupid to put it at the end of every goddamn line |
| 20:03.55 | RogueShadow | ^_^ |
| 20:04.03 | Shirik | I do a lot on Kimi >.> |
| 20:04.05 | ckknight | that's why I said "what's with the ^^?" and not "what's ^^?" |
| 20:04.18 | *** mode/#wowace [+v Shirik] by ChanServ |
| 20:04.28 | Shirik | So, if I were to put that at the end of every line |
| 20:04.29 | Amadeo | I've never been a big fan of any of the anime faces, and I don't know why it's a huge thing now days |
| 20:04.32 | NightHawkTheSane | RogueShadow: see, thats still silly, but not nearly as stupid. :P |
| 20:04.35 | Shirik | what would you do to me.... |
| 20:04.38 | Leachim | Hm, it's a habbit. I'm just a happy person^^ |
| 20:04.48 | RogueShadow | I met some people from Hong Kong, they alwayd did weird stuff like that. |
| 20:04.51 | Amadeo | Shiny happy people holding hands |
| 20:05.06 | NM|Xinhuan | Q(^_^Q) |
| 20:05.12 | NightHawkTheSane | Amadeo: mainstreamification of anime, most likely. |
| 20:05.17 | Amadeo | I guess so |
| 20:05.36 | Shirik | the majority of anime shown on TV is horrible, tbh :( |
| 20:05.39 | Amadeo | The furthest I've ever stretched was to using =) when colons were broken in EQ |
| 20:05.41 | RogueShadow | If anime goes mainstream, is it still cool? Prabably not. |
| 20:05.47 | Shirik | s/TV/TV in USA/ |
| 20:05.49 | Arrowmaster | if its dubed then yeah its horrible |
| 20:06.06 | NightHawkTheSane | Amadeo: lol, colons broken? I don't use = just because it's further from my fingers than : |
| 20:06.12 | Amadeo | I'd agree with that, Shirik, even if I don't watch it |
| 20:06.29 | Amadeo | NightHawkTheSane: Yeah, I forget when it was...but at one point if you typed a colon it wouldn't show up, it would screw up your line of text |
| 20:06.36 | Amadeo | might have been in EQ beta, I don't remember |
| 20:06.39 | Amadeo | that was like, a lifetime ago |
| 20:07.11 | NightHawkTheSane | Shirik: eh, yeah, to an extent, what makes it really bad is that the dubbing is often shittastic, and/or the actual storyline will be completely mauled |
| 20:07.16 | Saint-N | nah some of the anime is good |
| 20:07.17 | Amadeo | My memory only lasts a few days before it reboots |
| 20:07.23 | Saint-N | hellsing, bebop, full metal |
| 20:07.30 | Saint-N | shin chan ;) |
| 20:07.36 | Arrowmaster | anime is never good dubed |
| 20:07.47 | NightHawkTheSane | Arrowmaster: nah, there are good dubs, not a lot, though |
| 20:07.49 | Shirik | it's mostly due to the fact that it "can't be shown" in the US |
| 20:07.49 | Saint-N | i was exposed to the americanized bebop |
| 20:07.57 | Saint-N | so im a tad biased |
| 20:08.04 | Shirik | "no, we must protect our youth!" |
| 20:08.09 | NightHawkTheSane | Shirik: yeah :\ |
| 20:08.17 | Arrowmaster | i dont like dubed bebops Ed |
| 20:08.34 | Saint-N | the only non dubbed ive heard was the movie |
| 20:08.46 | Saint-N | before the american releases that is |
| 20:08.49 | RogueShadow | I never seen Cowboy Bebop without it being dubbed. that sucks. |
| 20:08.54 | Saint-N | and the original akira |
| 20:09.12 | Saint-N | the todd mcfarlane dub version makes me wanna kill puppies |
| 20:09.22 | Arrowmaster | lol |
| 20:09.27 | Arrowmaster | never seen akira dubed |
| 20:09.33 | Saint-N | they removed SOOOO many of the good jokes |
| 20:09.35 | NightHawkTheSane | it's not particularly good. |
| 20:09.39 | Saint-N | and one liners in the redeaus |
| 20:09.39 | NightHawkTheSane | and by that, i mean really bad. |
| 20:09.59 | Saint-N | for first exposure and looking back to when it came out it was amazing |
| 20:10.12 | Arrowmaster | im listening to the DtB ost right now |
| 20:10.29 | Saint-N | and im actually kind of hooked on inuyasha these days |
| 20:10.33 | Saint-N | not really sure why |
| 20:10.45 | Saint-N | oh and excel saga |
| 20:10.47 | Saint-N | heh |
| 20:11.00 | Saint-N | there is something so incredibly wrong with that show |
| 20:11.00 | Arrowmaster | never seen inuyasha and been told to say away from it |
| 20:11.09 | NightHawkTheSane | Yeah,i'm not a fan of inuyasha. |
| 20:11.10 | Saint-N | as astory goes its pretty cheesy |
| 20:11.10 | CIA-22 | 03laotseu * r45229 10AllPlayed/ (AllPlayed-enUS.lua AllPlayed.lua AllPlayed.toc embeds.xml): |
| 20:11.10 | CIA-22 | AllPlayed: |
| 20:11.10 | CIA-22 | - Now use embeds.xml for better compatibility with WAU |
| 20:11.10 | CIA-22 | - TOC updated to 20100 |
| 20:11.10 | CIA-22 | - Version updated to 20100-1 |
| 20:11.11 | CIA-22 | - Added proper svn:eol-style and svn:mime-type to every files |
| 20:11.20 | Amadeo | I just have one question |
| 20:11.27 | Amadeo | when someone types something like: o.O |
| 20:11.31 | Amadeo | what's the period? a nose or mouth? |
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| 20:11.37 | Saint-N | nose |
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| 20:11.44 | Saint-N | or mouth depending on them ;P |
| 20:11.50 | Saint-N | heh |
| 20:11.57 | Saint-N | since some have noses and some dont ;P |
| 20:12.18 | Saint-N | oh flcl is another great anime |
| 20:12.32 | Saint-N | i really do like the fact that they are going back and redoing all, the hellsings though |
| 20:12.36 | Arrowmaster | hmm according to anidb.info my collection is only 224 GB |
| 20:12.39 | Saint-N | to match the manga a bit better |
| 20:12.57 | Arrowmaster | i know thats missing some stuff |
| 20:13.00 | Amadeo | the only anime I've ever seen (part of it, maybe) was with some guy with a hat, and his hand always attacked him or something |
| 20:13.08 | Saint-N | but i have yet to find an anime that has as cool a soundtrack as bebop |
| 20:13.21 | Amadeo | ok, well, that's not the only one, but that's the one I always think of |
| 20:13.30 | Nickenyfiken | Hmm can someone help me, I have a problem. If i have ## Dependency: FuBar in the toc the addon is not able to run without FuBar and if i don't have FuBar as a dependency the addon wont load properly. It is actually loaded but not enabled in the FuBar panel. |
| 20:13.32 | Arrowmaster | Amadeo: vampire hunter d? |
| 20:13.34 | Nickenyfiken | Anyone got a clue why? |
| 20:13.40 | Amadeo | that may be it |
| 20:13.42 | Amadeo | haha |
| 20:13.49 | Arrowmaster | Nickenyfiken: opt dep |
| 20:13.59 | Saint-N | i really dont like vhd |
| 20:14.03 | Nickenyfiken | ## OptionalDeps: Ace2, FuBar, DewdropLib, TabletLib, FuBarPlugin-2.0 |
| 20:14.10 | sb | Cryect: mhh - recount detail view doesnt show pet damage? (even when damage is merged) |
| 20:14.21 | Saint-N | yet i could sit and watch battle of the planets and old school astro boy all day ;P |
| 20:14.46 | Nickenyfiken | Seems like it started when i changed to using embeds.xml |
| 20:15.38 | yacoob | hehe |
| 20:15.39 | yacoob | 21:35 <@psiekl> Klingon functions do not have 'parameters' - they have 'arguments.' AND THEY ALWAYS WIN THEM! |
| 20:15.40 | Arrowmaster | Nickenyfiken: you should only need Ace2 and FuBar as optdeps |
| 20:16.03 | Nickenyfiken | Hmm ok, why? |
| 20:16.20 | Nickenyfiken | I was looking at some other FuBar plugins and they have same opt deps |
| 20:16.30 | Arrowmaster | acelibrary should load the rest if theyre standalone |
| 20:20.05 | Nickenyfiken | ok |
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| 20:22.44 | Leachim | Does someone know a good tooltip placement addon? Just tooltip placement. it should anchor world tooltips over the mouse and the rest to the parent frame |
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| 20:23.36 | ckknight | Leachim: CowTip has a module that does that |
| 20:23.38 | Arrowmaster | wow CNN fails so much http://edition.cnn.com/2007/SHOWBIZ/Movies/07/26/top10.animation/index.html |
| 20:24.29 | ckknight | yea, Arrowmaster, they totally left out Beauty and the Beast |
| 20:24.48 | Shirik | Akira should be so much higher.. |
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| 20:25.11 | Shirik | wtf they didn't like basil!! |
| 20:25.17 | Shirik | I loved that movie as a kid |
| 20:25.20 | Shirik | watched it a million times |
| 20:25.23 | Saint-N | wtf?!?! |
| 20:25.29 | Saint-N | how did southpark make it on that list |
| 20:25.32 | Leachim | Ok, thanks ckknight. Will look into it.^^ |
| 20:25.35 | Saint-N | and above watership down |
| 20:25.42 | Leachim | Well, ignore the "^^" at the end of my sentence |
| 20:25.49 | ckknight | Saint-N: it won an oscar |
| 20:25.59 | ckknight | I can't, Leachim |
| 20:26.02 | ckknight | it haunts me |
| 20:26.12 | Saint-N | wow |
| 20:26.14 | Leachim | :P |
| 20:26.14 | Saint-N | so? |
| 20:26.18 | Saint-N | that doesnt make it good |
| 20:26.25 | Shirik | Leachim: Just type s/^^// on a new line after you speak each time |
| 20:26.30 | Saint-N | infact southpark is the absolutel WORST example of good animation |
| 20:26.31 | Shirik | purl will take care of it for you |
| 20:26.37 | RogueShadow | find an irc client that will find all "^^" and replace with " " |
| 20:26.52 | Leachim | hrhr |
| 20:27.02 | Leachim | s/^^// |
| 20:27.05 | RogueShadow | s/irc/internet relay chat/ |
| 20:27.20 | Leachim | oO :P |
| 20:27.24 | ckknight | you're a huge asshole, RogueShadow |
| 20:27.30 | Arrowmaster | i can think of many anime movies that should be on that list |
| 20:27.31 | ckknight | s/huge asshole/fine gentleman/ |
| 20:27.38 | RogueShadow | aw thanks |
| 20:27.39 | Arrowmaster | like gits |
| 20:27.44 | Leachim | I love smilies ;) |
| 20:27.48 | RogueShadow | s/aw thanks/wow your so mean/ |
| 20:27.53 | ckknight | I love your mom |
| 20:27.54 | Funkeh` | ckknight: your typos get worse every day |
| 20:28.06 | ckknight | the keys are right next to each other, guy |
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| 20:33.39 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight 07ckknight * r45230 10Joker/LibJokerTimer-1.0/ (LibJokerTimer-1.0.lua LibJokerTimer-1.0.toc): LibJokerTimer-1.0 - make LoD, turn into mixin properly. |
| 20:33.47 | Qaarh | ckknight, can Parrot catch the damage done by shaman totems? |
| 20:33.53 | ckknight | not right now |
| 20:33.58 | NM|Xinhuan | what does this jokerlib do? |
| 20:34.18 | Qaarh | ckknight, ok thanks |
| 20:34.41 | ckknight | NM|Xinhuan: secret project that may become Ace3. It's libjoker, not jokerlib, btw |
| 20:34.48 | NM|Xinhuan | :o |
| 20:34.48 | Amadeo | Chases Batman |
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| 20:35.25 | ckknight | Addon framework of awesomeness. Hahaha. It'll chase ur batmens |
| 20:35.33 | NM|Xinhuan | i've some questions about AceDB.. how does "profiles" work? |
| 20:35.36 | Amadeo | Kablam! |
| 20:37.58 | DarkImakuni | lol ck |
| 20:38.07 | CIA-22 | 03nickenyfiken * r45231 10FuBar_TrainerFu/TrainerFu.lua: FuBar_TrainerFu: Should properly show up in FuBar panel now. |
| 20:39.52 | Elkano | DarkImakuni? I used to have a D&D char of that race... |
| 20:40.20 | mjc_ | http://evansnc.com/gallery/index.php?album=Travel%2FAtlantis_sts115%2F&pic=Atlantis-STS115.jpg |
| 20:40.23 | DarkImakuni | D&D? :/ |
| 20:43.10 | Elkano | oh... wait... that was called Deep Imaskari... :/ |
| 20:44.01 | mjc_ | http://www.harlem-13-gigapixels.com/ |
| 20:44.30 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight 07ckknight * r45232 10Joker/LibJoker-1.0/LibJoker-1.0.lua: |
| 20:44.30 | CIA-22 | LibJoker-1.0 - some bugfixes. Only load libraries whose major version matches the addon name, don't do any toc metadata checking for that. |
| 20:44.30 | CIA-22 | - also load LibJokerEvent-1.0 if possible |
| 20:44.37 | CIA-22 | 03nickenyfiken * r45233 10FuBar_TrainerFu/TrainerFu_VisitTrainer.lua: FuBar_TrainerFu: Removed forgotten debug print. |
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| 20:48.53 | harldephin | lol. nice photo(s). |
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| 20:59.43 | ckknight | so I'm thinking I'm going to get rid of AceOptions support from the console library of Joker |
| 20:59.49 | ckknight | that is, just not include it |
| 21:01.25 | ckknight | anyone have any thoughts? |
| 21:02.06 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight 07ckknight * r45234 10Joker/LibJoker-1.0/LibJoker-1.0.lua: LibJoker-1.0 - check that libraries have been finalized before ADDON_LOADED. |
| 21:02.25 | RogueShadow | ckknight: No thoughts in this brain! |
| 21:02.28 | Saroz | Omen doesnt work well on vashj adds -.- |
| 21:02.56 | Saroz | or.. threat doesnt |
| 21:02.57 | ckknight | basically, as I'm sure we can all agree with, Slash commands are amateurish |
| 21:02.58 | ckknight | :-P |
| 21:03.07 | ckknight | jk, but srsly, there's better ways in most cases |
| 21:03.15 | ckknight | if you want slash commands, then you can custom-code it |
| 21:03.33 | ckknight | cause sometimes doing /altnames link alpha bravo is nicer than dealing with a gui |
| 21:03.41 | ckknight | but most cases a gui is better |
| 21:03.59 | ckknight | also means that we wouldn't have to have 3 different implementations of AceOptions |
| 21:04.19 | RogueShadow | Slash commands, the poor mans gui. |
| 21:04.25 | harldephin | lol |
| 21:04.56 | ckknight | basically, RogueShadow |
| 21:04.56 | Shirik | There are a few cases where a slash command is preferable, but I do agree with ckknight you can always just do that yourself, it's not hard |
| 21:04.56 | ckknight | right |
| 21:04.57 | ckknight | there are definitely cases |
| 21:05.03 | Shirik | RDX still doesn't have any slash commands, though it's been requested for an "/rdx show" after you hide the window |
| 21:05.09 | Shirik | other than that, nothing |
| 21:05.21 | ckknight | right |
| 21:05.29 | Chompers | menus are good for clickable options |
| 21:05.54 | harldephin | lol |
| 21:06.20 | ckknight | for most of my recent addons, I've had the slash commands just open a menu |
| 21:06.22 | RogueShadow | The only thing I dont like about the menu's, is if they are deep menu's and you accidentally move the mouse off of it. It's like one of those mouse puzzle games |
| 21:06.39 | ckknight | RogueShadow: yea, I think standardizing on something closer to Waterfall would be better |
| 21:07.08 | RogueShadow | Only better. |
| 21:07.09 | RogueShadow | :) |
| 21:07.18 | ckknight | what could be better? |
| 21:07.23 | Amadeo | golf with a gator |
| 21:07.30 | RogueShadow | ya that |
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| 21:07.42 | Chompers | AI that sets options for us |
| 21:07.44 | ckknight | lol |
| 21:08.22 | RogueShadow | It just doesn't feel right with some things. Like Parrot for example. There's just too much there. Feels like a lot of work to do things even in waterfall. |
| 21:09.43 | Gnarfoz | Cryect: so, once again, my client is stuck doing some calculations on a Magtheridon fight, after I unchecked integrate (from all 3 checked)... any idea if that is fixable or should perhaps be worked around? :> |
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| 21:09.57 | RogueShadow | :-/ in other news. I need to find a bootable cd that can fix my MRB incase I break it when I install linux. |
| 21:10.53 | Gnarfoz | RogueShadow: windows cd |
| 21:11.13 | Saint-N | hirens bootdisk |
| 21:11.45 | durcyn | bootdisk dot com |
| 21:11.54 | Saint-N | did they put up cds there? |
| 21:12.00 | Saint-N | havent been in a while |
| 21:12.22 | durcyn | yeah, mostly just el torito though |
| 21:12.28 | [dRaCo] | Saint-N: ultimate boot cd, ubcd.org or net or something |
| 21:12.40 | Saint-N | ultimate is good too |
| 21:12.44 | Saint-N | as it supertools |
| 21:12.51 | [dRaCo] | whoops |
| 21:12.55 | RogueShadow | Gnarfoz yeah, I can't find it. my problem. I suck |
| 21:13.05 | [dRaCo] | sorry, didnt mean to highlight you |
| 21:13.08 | Saint-N | ubcd however doesnt have the images online at the site |
| 21:13.18 | Saint-N | but easy enough to find |
| 21:13.21 | [dRaCo] | they had that, once... not anymore? |
| 21:13.28 | RogueShadow | i'll try to find that ubcd |
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| 21:13.47 | Gnarfoz | RogueShadow: it's either of "fixmbr" and "fixboot" |
| 21:13.50 | Saint-N | havent seen it there for about 8 months |
| 21:13.56 | [dRaCo] | http://www.ultimatebootcd.com/ |
| 21:13.58 | Saint-N | mbr /f |
| 21:14.00 | durcyn | fdisk /mbr will do it just as well |
| 21:14.04 | Saint-N | err fdisk /mbr ;P |
| 21:14.23 | [dRaCo] | there's a torrent |
| 21:14.47 | RogueShadow | Yeah, I had to do that once. |
| 21:15.02 | RogueShadow | I just really really do'nt want to screw up my windows installation. risk is minimal, but still. |
| 21:15.15 | RogueShadow | especially since i did mention. |
| 21:15.18 | RogueShadow | Can't find my cd |
| 21:15.25 | RogueShadow | :) |
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| 21:18.46 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight 07ckknight * r45235 10Joker/LibJoker-1.0/LibJoker-1.0.lua: LibJoker-1.0 - cache some globals, fix a typo. |
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| 21:26.28 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight 07ckknight * r45236 10Joker/LibJokerTimer-1.0/LibJokerTimer-1.0.lua: LibJokerTimer-1.0 - be sure to opt out if out of date. |
| 21:27.17 | Qaarh | hrm.. so, I'm seeing a great slowdown and even 10 second lockups in WoW when moving frames around.. |
| 21:27.26 | Qaarh | It also slows down when people join or leave my raid group |
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| 21:27.40 | Qaarh | any ideas what could cause that? |
| 21:32.18 | Arrowmaster | im seeing a constant lockup for a second every few seconds, but it might be my comp |
| 21:33.51 | Qaarh | that's the kind of problem I have when people join/leave the raid |
| 21:35.04 | Arrowmaster | hmm too bad theres no way to list all the schuduled events |
| 21:35.20 | Qaarh | yeah... |
| 21:35.46 | Gnarfoz | anyone know how often or when the armory is updated? |
| 21:36.27 | Arrowmaster | when you logout |
| 21:36.40 | Gnarfoz | doesn't seem to :\ |
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| 21:43.48 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight 07ckknight * r45237 10Joker/LibJokerEvent-1.0/LibJokerEvent-1.0.lua: |
| 21:43.48 | CIA-22 | LibJokerEvent-1.0 - make LoD |
| 21:43.48 | CIA-22 | - add ability to register for multiple events at once with a set |
| 21:43.48 | CIA-22 | - add bucketing, requires LibJokerTimer-1.0 to be available. |
| 21:43.48 | CIA-22 | - try to load LibJokerTimer-1.0 automatically. |
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| 21:46.48 | phirephly | Hey all. |
| 21:46.57 | phirephly | Anyone on who can speak about Buffalo2? I gots me some questions. |
| 21:50.18 | phirephly | I'll take that thundering silence as a no and check back later. |
| 21:51.36 | vhaarr | retard |
| 21:53.25 | vhaarr | I think people view a IRC channel as a room with lots of chairs where everyone is sitting in a circle, just waiting for someone to say something |
| 21:53.25 | vhaarr | THAT'S NOT HOW IT IS PEOPLE |
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| 21:53.25 | Diao | lol |
| 21:53.27 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight 07ckknight * r45238 10Joker/LibJoker-1.0/LibJoker-1.0.lua: LibJoker-1.0 - don't enable or try to load non-LoD libs. |
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| 21:57.00 | CIA-22 | 03oridan * r45239 10ShoutReminder/ShoutReminder.lua: |
| 21:57.00 | CIA-22 | ShoutReminder: |
| 21:57.00 | CIA-22 | - oops, was using regen_disabled instead of regen_enabled. |
| 21:58.50 | NightHawkTheSane | vhaarr: yeah, but on the up side, it means the idiots don't stick around too long. :P |
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| 22:07.28 | Mecdemort | vhaarr: so what type of scenario would you consider an IRC channel? I've seen some that might as well be a stock exchange |
| 22:07.45 | CIA-22 | 03morgalm * r45240 10MorgDKP/ (6 files): |
| 22:07.45 | CIA-22 | MorgDKP: |
| 22:07.45 | CIA-22 | - added DKP system and Quality threshold to fubar tablet with associated menus |
| 22:08.14 | vhaarr | Mecdemort: you can't compare it to anything, it's just IRC |
| 22:08.20 | Shirik | what am I thinking it's not that good |
| 22:08.28 | vhaarr | or maybe you can, but I can't think of any |
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| 22:25.10 | break19 | vhaarr: I'd compare it to amatuer radio.. |
| 22:25.24 | Shirik | hih :) |
| 22:25.25 | break19 | ie: CB or Ham radio |
| 22:26.27 | break19 | basically.. there's a bunch of people just "readin the mail" but unless they know the answer to someone's question, or are asked directly, they aint likely to speak up |
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| 22:28.37 | Shirik | wb ckknight |
| 22:28.43 | ckknight | lousy cord |
| 22:28.51 | Shirik | hehe |
| 22:29.15 | break19 | ah dunt need no steeenkin cords |
| 22:30.14 | Wobwork | feh |
| 22:30.19 | Wobwork | wireless is even more unstable =P |
| 22:30.25 | Wobwork | unpredictably so =P |
| 22:30.28 | break19 | mine's not :) |
| 22:30.33 | break19 | <click> |
| 22:30.42 | Wobwork | at least with a cord you know if it's a dodgy one |
| 22:30.51 | Wobwork | with wireless, it all depends on the phase of the moon |
| 22:30.57 | Wobwork | conjunction with the stars |
| 22:31.05 | break19 | I have cords.. but they only go as far as my wifi router :) |
| 22:31.08 | Wobwork | and whether Julie actually left Arthur on Days of our Lives |
| 22:31.59 | Shirik | hey |
| 22:32.06 | Shirik | at least you guys have a decent bandwidth |
| 22:32.08 | Shirik | so no more complainint! |
| 22:32.13 | Shirik | s/t/g/ |
| 22:32.43 | Gnarfoz | I could use more b/w ^^ |
| 22:32.50 | break19 | we all could |
| 22:33.02 | Shirik | so could I >.> |
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| 22:33.35 | break19 | its like fast cars and sexy women.. no such thing as too much :) |
| 22:37.34 | Wobwork | except possibly a sexy woman in front of a car going fast |
| 22:37.39 | Wobwork | Then it's not so pretty =\ |
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| 22:39.59 | Chompers | sexy sexy mush |
| 22:44.02 | Hjalte | Does anyone know if I can make Baggins stop open my bags when i am at the bank? |
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| 22:51.26 | Qaarh | Hjalte: in the baggins settings, you can toggle that.. /baggins overridebags |
| 22:53.41 | Hjalte | Qaarh, that doesnt change it, unfortunately. |
| 22:53.59 | Qaarh | Hjalte: hrm.. oh, you mean to open your main bags? |
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| 22:54.25 | Hjalte | Yeah, both my baggins main bags and my baggins bank opens. I would like for only the baggins bank to open. |
| 22:54.55 | Qaarh | ah I see.. don't know if that can be done, but I'll check |
| 22:55.43 | Qaarh | hrm.. doesn't seem like you can do that.. |
| 23:04.34 | art3mis | so |
| 23:04.54 | art3mis | whats the name of that addon thats like pally bar only for totems? |
| 23:05.15 | Qaarh | I use TotemTimers, I find it exactly what I wanted |
| 23:05.16 | CIA-22 | 03somerset * r45241 10BuffCheck/ (BuffCheck.lua BuffCheck.toc): |
| 23:05.16 | CIA-22 | BuffCheck |
| 23:05.16 | CIA-22 | - version 0.2.1 |
| 23:05.16 | CIA-22 | - fixed and confirmed lots of buffs (some still need confirmation, especially flasks) |
| 23:05.16 | CIA-22 | - fixed toc interface# |
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| 23:05.47 | art3mis | im looking more for something that will auto add totems to a bar for me |
| 23:05.51 | art3mis | as i learn them |
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| 23:06.28 | Qaarh | Well, they fill up as you learn them.. but I see what you mean.. No clue, and I'd probably never want all my tots on the bars heh, it'd drive me insane :D |
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| 23:09.26 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight 07ckknight * r45242 10Joker/LibJoker-1.0/LibJoker-1.0.lua: |
| 23:09.26 | CIA-22 | LibJoker-1.0 - rearrange file a bit |
| 23:09.26 | CIA-22 | - use recycling for tables |
| 23:09.26 | CIA-22 | - add an Unembed process, which will be called when you upgrade a library, all mixins that it has embedded into it will be Unembedded. |
| 23:09.26 | CIA-22 | - export the :Unembed method. |
| 23:10.27 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight 07ckknight * r45243 10Joker/LibJokerEvent-1.0/ (LibJokerEvent-1.0.lua LibJokerEvent-1.0.toc): LibJokerEvent-1.0 - remove all event listeners at OnUnembed |
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| 23:10.45 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight 07ckknight * r45244 10Joker/LibJokerTimer-1.0/LibJokerTimer-1.0.lua: LibJokerTimer-1.0 - remove all timers at OnUnembed |
| 23:11.27 | art3mis | some sort of totem bar that groups them like autobar so that only the ones that work together would be shown |
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| 23:19.34 | Gnarfoz | ckknight: just curious - has ace2 actually reached a state where you're bored of it, or why are you doing Joker (besides coding for coding's sake, for which of course, starting over is a good way to create "things to do")? ^^ |
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| 23:20.32 | ckknight | in hindsight, the API is inconsistent in quite a few parts, and it had become unnecessarily bloated, as well as that I thought of better ways of doing things |
| 23:20.45 | ckknight | also, it was basically impossible to make it more efficient without breaking things |
| 23:20.57 | AnduinLothar | ace2 suxors, but no one listens to me |
| 23:21.12 | Funkeh` | your mom suxxors AnduinLothar, but no one listens to me |
| 23:21.32 | art3mis | thats because you've usually got cock in your mouth funkeh ;) |
| 23:21.33 | ckknight | AnduinLothar: frameworks suck, Ace2 sucks less |
| 23:21.41 | Funkeh` | oooh |
| 23:22.43 | Gnarfoz | art3mis: for that, wouldn't the listeners have to have cocks in their ears? :] |
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| 23:23.08 | AnduinLothar | you said so yourself, you could do better |
| 23:23.13 | ckknight | yep |
| 23:23.20 | ckknight | Ace3 will suck less than Ace2 |
| 23:23.20 | Funkeh` | ckknight: you seriously going to do it solo? |
| 23:23.37 | ckknight | Funkeh`: I've been getting advice, plus I'm stealing the good parts out of Ace2 |
| 23:23.38 | RogueShadow | well didn't i just come in the middle of a great conversation. |
| 23:23.41 | ckknight | and tweaking it as I go |
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| 23:23.46 | art3mis | uh oh |
| 23:24.00 | art3mis | i dont think i have that kind of name space in my addon list ckk ;) |
| 23:24.04 | AnduinLothar | ckk just lieks writing his own stuff |
| 23:24.13 | AnduinLothar | didn't dondle already try? |
| 23:24.14 | ckknight | name space? |
| 23:24.19 | Gnarfoz | I'd rather ask: do you expect people to switch over at some point? (devs as well as "users"?) |
| 23:24.23 | ckknight | AnduinLothar: Dongle's not mine |
| 23:24.26 | art3mis | AceLib-CKK - Mod1-49 |
| 23:24.28 | CIA-22 | 03ascalia * r45245 10TradeskillInfo/TradeskillData.lua: |
| 23:24.28 | CIA-22 | TradeskillInfo: |
| 23:24.28 | CIA-22 | - fixed annoying Spellfire Cloth bug |
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| 23:24.33 | art3mis | ;) |
| 23:24.37 | Kyahx | users should never switch, they shouldn't care about frameworks |
| 23:24.48 | ckknight | yea, users shouldn't care too much |
| 23:24.49 | Kyahx | they shouldn't know the difference |
| 23:25.02 | ckknight | but the general idea is that I'd be switching my stuff over first |
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| 23:25.19 | ckknight | the conversion process won't be too painful, really |
| 23:25.24 | Arrowmaster | the way ace2 is though users do care about the framework because of stuff like niagara |
| 23:25.27 | ckknight | less painful than Ace1 => Ace2 |
| 23:25.32 | AnduinLothar | users start caring when they have duplicates of all their libs |
| 23:26.10 | ckknight | and Ace3 will make things like Niagara easier, Arrowmaster |
| 23:26.18 | Arrowmaster | i tried looking at ace1 after i learned ace2, it just seemed confusing |
| 23:26.30 | AnduinLothar | and most authors dont rewrite their addons because there's a new lib out |
| 23:26.59 | art3mis | ill tag along as long as my mod authors do |
| 23:27.01 | art3mis | ;) |
| 23:27.05 | ckknight | don't harsh my mellow, AnduinLothar |
| 23:27.20 | AnduinLothar | out of fresh addon content ideas? |
| 23:27.22 | art3mis | ckk: are you essentially fixing the internal/external issue? |
| 23:27.32 | ckknight | which issue would that be? |
| 23:27.34 | art3mis | for dep libs? |
| 23:27.40 | art3mis | the choice basically |
| 23:27.46 | ckknight | well, a _lot_ of the upgrading issues will be fixed |
| 23:27.54 | ckknight | but no, there will be both standalones and externals |
| 23:28.04 | art3mis | so that you dont have 15 mods with internal libs with 15 copies of the same libs |
| 23:28.07 | art3mis | oh |
| 23:28.25 | art3mis | that kind of makes me sad |
| 23:28.28 | art3mis | ;) |
| 23:28.29 | Arrowmaster | most upgrading issues seem to come from problems in the libs themselves |
| 23:28.32 | ckknight | *shrug* |
| 23:28.46 | ckknight | Arrowmaster: yea, but there's less wiggle room to shoot yourself in the foot now |
| 23:28.53 | art3mis | hrm |
| 23:28.59 | art3mis | can you make me a totem bar ckk? |
| 23:29.04 | ckknight | no |
| 23:29.06 | ckknight | I play a pally |
| 23:29.07 | art3mis | that auto adds and groups totems? |
| 23:29.11 | art3mis | oh |
| 23:29.26 | art3mis | it would be like the blessing bar |
| 23:29.29 | AnduinLothar | thats why _I_ haven't written one, lol |
| 23:30.14 | art3mis | so heres a question i suppose |
| 23:30.26 | RogueShadow | *sigh* I missed the beginning of this conversation. Now it's not so entertaining. |
| 23:30.30 | AnduinLothar | i need an arena enimy unit frame mod. what's the best? |
| 23:30.30 | art3mis | is kael still gonna host Joker since wowace would sorta be competeing? |
| 23:30.41 | art3mis | or is ace2 mostly yer design anyways? |
| 23:30.47 | Antiarc | What's the preferred SVN client for Mac? |
| 23:30.51 | Funkeh` | err |
| 23:30.57 | Funkeh` | i think joker is more a codename |
| 23:31.01 | Funkeh` | not a different library |
| 23:31.01 | AnduinLothar | SmartSVN imo, tho there's a finder one too |
| 23:31.16 | art3mis | well yeah |
| 23:31.24 | Funkeh` | longhorn > Windows vista |
| 23:31.27 | art3mis | but its more a case of now its ckk's baby as opposed to kaels baby |
| 23:31.28 | NightHawkTheSane | Antiarc: cli ftw. |
| 23:31.38 | art3mis | thus the question of whether kael would still pay for it |
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| 23:31.46 | Funkeh` | pretty sure ckk said it would probably be an ace3 |
| 23:31.48 | ckknight | actually about 90% of ACe2 is my code |
| 23:31.53 | ckknight | Ace2* |
| 23:32.06 | art3mis | oh okay |
| 23:32.18 | art3mis | i dont think you quite understood my question funkeh ;) |
| 23:32.20 | ckknight | but yea, Joker's a codename |
| 23:32.31 | ckknight | if things go as they go, it might become Ace3 later |
| 23:33.21 | ckknight | but that's to be seen |
| 23:34.43 | Funkeh` | art3mis: i understood perfectly, im telling you its not 'competition' |
| 23:35.28 | RogueShadow | I figure if it was competition, we wouldn't be in the ace channel, with the ace svn, on the wow ace website. |
| 23:35.32 | art3mis | that was the only word i could think to describe |
| 23:35.53 | ckknight | it'll compete as much as Apache 1.3 and Apache 2.0 compete. |
| 23:35.57 | ckknight | :-P |
| 23:36.04 | ckknight | for a real life example |
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| 23:36.20 | art3mis | but it would be like kael making these awesome shoes and selling them in his store and then ckk comes along and redesigns the shoes so they arent kaels shoes anymore and expecting kael to keep the store open to sell ckks shoes |
| 23:36.44 | ckknight | pretty sure I made the first shoes. |
| 23:36.45 | RogueShadow | if kael made money from ckks shoes, he would keep the store open. |
| 23:36.46 | art3mis | but i understand from ckks response before ;P |
| 23:36.52 | art3mis | thats what i was asking |
| 23:36.57 | NightHawkTheSane | art3mis: I think if Kael felt that way, there wouldn't be much on the wowace website :P |
| 23:37.06 | art3mis | was whether ace2 was mostly yer baby in the first place |
| 23:37.07 | Wobwork | Ace Shoes! |
| 23:37.09 | Wobwork | Now lighter |
| 23:37.12 | art3mis | hah |
| 23:37.15 | art3mis | and FASTER! |
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| 23:37.47 | art3mis | the ckk mod would have 56 lace eyes on each side so make it more efficient and tighter ;P |
| 23:38.05 | Wobwork | but require 60 more feet of lace. |
| 23:38.08 | art3mis | all in varying neon colours |
| 23:38.17 | art3mis | so it's VERY obvious |
| 23:38.24 | RogueShadow | with gel, in gel in gel in gel in gel in gel inserts. |
| 23:38.34 | art3mis | hahahahahahah |
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| 23:38.42 | Dustwhisper | ok need some "design help" here or well logic help. What would be the smartest way to save and represent a players castinghistory (cast starts, casts completed, dmg done and all at what time and being able to do that for all players) |
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| 23:38.59 | ckknight | probably a list of dictionaries |
| 23:39.09 | Wobwork | You'd want a time indexed one anda spell indexed one |
| 23:39.30 | Dustwhisper | How would I do either, yes I dont even know how to do arrays/tables/lists =D |
| 23:39.35 | Wobwork | ah |
| 23:39.53 | Wobwork | I advise reading PiL |
| 23:40.05 | Wobwork | it'll take a bit of time, but that's time well spent |
| 23:40.17 | Wobwork | especially if you're serious about wanting to write in lua |
| 23:40.25 | Dustwhisper | Yea i will |
| 23:40.46 | Dustwhisper | but i wouldnt mind some examples/help aswell since I tend to learn better when I got reallife sandboxed examples whilst i read up on stuff |
| 23:41.17 | Dustwhisper | but you are thinking something like timetable[x] = currtime, spelltable[x] = currspell ? |
| 23:41.50 | art3mis | who did the recent font additions to the clearfont addon pack? |
| 23:41.51 | Dustwhisper | I'd think something like a structure containing time, spellstart/spellend dmg done if end etc and an array of those structures would be the way |
| 23:41.56 | art3mis | i REALLYlike the new choices |
| 23:42.08 | art3mis | would be alot neater if you could pick where the fonts took over though |
| 23:42.39 | art3mis | while the ol'english script is great for static things it makes reading the chat frame a touch difficult |
| 23:43.21 | Arrowmaster | Funkeh`: so when your dead, you dont get dive timers on lurker |
| 23:43.37 | RogueShadow | *sigh* at least graal had an offline editor... but that game is crap. aw well |
| 23:44.01 | Funkeh` | Arrowmaster: gimme a better way around it |
| 23:44.39 | Arrowmaster | huh? |
| 23:45.00 | Arrowmaster | im not sure what its using now, just didnt know if you knew or not |
| 23:45.25 | Funkeh` | i do, theres nothing i can do about it |
| 23:46.25 | art3mis | graal? |
| 23:47.32 | RogueShadow | art3mis: Formerly free online game, originally a clone of zelda for snes. Which is so bad it doesn't even have a professional review to it's name I can find. |
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