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| 00:10.48 | CIA-22 | 03archarodim * r45246 10Decursive/Dcr_DebuffsFrame.lua: |
| 00:10.48 | CIA-22 | Decursive: |
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| 00:11.31 | Dustwhisper | If table["foo"] is the same as table.foo is then table["foo"]["bar"] the same as table["foo"].bar ? |
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| 00:15.09 | CIA-22 | 03archarodim * r45247 10Decursive/Decursive.toc: |
| 00:15.09 | CIA-22 | Decursive: |
| 00:15.09 | CIA-22 | - Changed version from 2.0.0 FINAL to 2.0.1 |
| 00:16.12 | Dustwhisper | yea seems that way |
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| 00:24.23 | Dustwhisper | is there some logical correlation between the time from date() and the times from time() and GetTime() ? |
| 00:24.36 | CIA-22 | 03ascalia * r45248 10TradeskillInfo/TradeskillData.lua: |
| 00:24.36 | CIA-22 | TradeskillInfo: |
| 00:24.36 | CIA-22 | - fixed: Spellcloth Reagent for Gnomish Power Goggles |
| 00:24.47 | vhaarr | Dustwhisper: you *could* read wowwiki.com |
| 00:25.07 | Saladin | oooh, harsh |
| 00:25.29 | Dustwhisper | I could |
| 00:25.31 | Dustwhisper | and I do |
| 00:25.32 | art3mis | hey neat auduin won blizzcon tickets |
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| 00:25.39 | CIA-22 | SimpleMD: |
| 00:25.39 | CIA-22 | - Fixed scheduled events... bad programmer |
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| 00:26.57 | BankZ | what damage/heal meters do you guys like best? |
| 00:27.30 | Saladin | None. |
| 00:27.42 | Saladin | imo they only prevent me from performing my best |
| 00:27.52 | Dustwhisper | SWStats for synching and accuracy, recap for extra info, recount for deathlogs and quick checks like which mage slacks with scorch |
| 00:28.00 | Dustwhisper | i use all 3 |
| 00:28.18 | Diao | doesn't recount do everything recap does |
| 00:28.42 | Dustwhisper | i prefer the structure of recap |
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| 00:33.03 | harldephin | uah.. |
| 00:33.09 | ckknight | uah? |
| 00:33.15 | Wobwork | uah! |
| 00:33.35 | Saladin | uah?! |
| 00:33.43 | harldephin | uah, not hua |
| 00:33.56 | Neebler | UAHHHH~ |
| 00:33.59 | Saladin | If anyone has seen a movie called "The Gamers" |
| 00:34.04 | Saladin | THE SHADOW?! |
| 00:34.13 | harldephin | the yawning |
| 00:34.25 | Saladin | Oh. |
| 00:38.17 | BankZ | yeah, I think I am gonna have to go back to SWS :( |
| 00:38.51 | Chompers | BankZ: Violation |
| 00:38.58 | Chompers | it's small and compact |
| 00:39.27 | harldephin | good night then |
| 00:40.01 | BankZ | Chompers: it cant filter out of cobat healing |
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| 00:44.49 | RogueShadow | I like the ubuntu installer :) |
| 00:45.29 | RogueShadow | Aight, somebody make Batman, Joker is going to win. we can't have that. |
| 00:45.54 | vhaarr | or 'Batmon', an addon that counts the number of bats you encounter in-game |
| 00:46.06 | RogueShadow | hmm... Interesting |
| 00:46.33 | RogueShadow | Anywho, my favorite thing of the ubuntu installer is.... I am installing ubuntu right now.... and talking to you.... |
| 00:46.45 | RogueShadow | isn't that "too" easy? |
| 00:46.45 | vhaarr | ckknight: splendid idea for a Joker test-addon, I think |
| 00:47.36 | RogueShadow | install is over, says I have to restart.. crap. |
| 00:47.40 | RogueShadow | cya |
| 00:48.16 | ckknight | vhaarr: lol |
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| 00:54.25 | Herio | hmm |
| 00:54.35 | Herio | anyone thought about making a cowtip module for bartexts? |
| 00:54.54 | Herio | if not I'm gonna crank out a really poorly written one >.> |
| 00:55.25 | ckknight | knock yourself out, Herio |
| 00:56.21 | Herio | k |
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| 01:05.02 | CIA-22 | TradeskillInfo: |
| 01:05.02 | CIA-22 | - fixed all three leatherworking specializations |
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| 01:13.41 | Jagobah | are there any antagonist alternatives |
| 01:18.54 | Diao | i just use quartz |
| 01:22.33 | durcyn | antagonist IS the alternative, to NECB. what's wrong with it? |
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| 01:47.50 | Comxx | Hey ckknight http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=3789.120 the last post |
| 01:48.32 | ckknight | I don't believe anything fred says, sorry |
| 01:48.46 | Comxx | lol just let you know |
| 01:49.07 | Comxx | it works Geart for me =) |
| 01:49.18 | CIA-22 | 03funkydude * r45253 10BigWigs_Naxxramas/Horsemen.lua: BigWigs_Naxxramas: Horsemen: tweaks |
| 01:50.13 | ckknight | yea, fred just has issues |
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| 01:50.33 | vhaarr | he's actually a war veteran, he told me in a private message |
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| 01:50.41 | vhaarr | when I accused him of writing crap bug reports |
| 01:51.03 | RogueShadow | well I totally screwed up. :) .. ya nice. |
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| 01:51.33 | RogueShadow | who knows a lot about grub partitions. mbr's and windows. |
| 01:54.32 | ckknight | vhaarr: okay, does that excuse his sloppy bug reports? |
| 01:59.30 | Jagobah | durcyn, I think Antagonist needs to be updated to allow for easier configuration. Right now it's a pain toggling through every spell in the game and selecting what you do or don't want |
| 01:59.30 | vhaarr | ckknight: no, but it might explain them, depending on the circumstances |
| 01:59.30 | ckknight | as much as I appreciate his service to our country and all |
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| 01:59.30 | Jagobah | and at 1152 x 864, the list is so long I can't see the whole thing |
| 01:59.31 | Funkeh` | our server first ashbringer goes to a pally |
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| 02:03.11 | Comxx | is the there a place where i can see all the new commit besides svn ? |
| 02:03.35 | Gnarfoz | Comxx: http://wowace.com/trac/log |
| 02:04.26 | Comxx | Trac detected an internal error: |
| 02:04.26 | Comxx | OperationalError: database is locked |
| 02:04.27 | QQngsk | http://groups-beta.google.com/group/wowace/feed/rss_v2_0_msgs.xml?hl=en |
| 02:04.53 | Comxx | thx =) |
| 02:05.03 | Gngsk | thank tekkub |
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| 02:07.58 | Poul|Raider | hi, do any of you got a link with all the commands useable for the blizzard /combatlog |
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| 02:11.07 | NightHawkTheSane | "Do you notice anything weird about Hawkins?" "Weird?" "Different." "Different?" "Odd." "Odd?" "Rothman!" |
| 02:11.22 | Comxx | so ckknight want your next project ? |
| 02:12.09 | ckknight | hrm? |
| 02:12.09 | Shirik | he already has a next project :P |
| 02:12.25 | Shirik | and it's not even named after an animal |
| 02:12.27 | Comxx | and what that ? |
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| 02:13.23 | ckknight | Joker |
| 02:13.26 | Comxx | lol yea cowtag dogtag parrot pitbull |
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| 02:14.15 | Comxx | ckknight is a Animal lover =) |
| 02:14.32 | ckknight | not into bestiality |
| 02:15.46 | Poul|Raider | wtb list over class abilitys that have a fixed dmg output |
| 02:15.50 | Poul|Raider | liek kcik |
| 02:15.52 | Poul|Raider | kick |
| 02:16.40 | Comxx | ckknight: what joker do ? |
| 02:16.50 | ckknight | Ace3 |
| 02:16.53 | ckknight | basically |
| 02:17.00 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight 07ckknight * r45254 10Joker/LibJokerConsole-1.0/ (. LibJokerConsole-1.0.lua LibJokerConsole-1.0.toc): LibJokerConsole-1.0 - initial import |
| 02:17.02 | break19 | *drool* |
| 02:17.18 | ckknight | it's basically Ace2 only slimmer and with a saner API |
| 02:18.52 | NightHawkTheSane | "Trust me O'Neill." "What if I'm not O'Neill?" "Then I was not talking to you." |
| 02:21.16 | Comxx | sweet |
| 02:22.46 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight 07ckknight * r45255 10Joker/LibJoker-1.0/LibJoker-1.0.lua: LibJoker-1.0 - addons can't have underscores in their names, as that will be how modules define their parent namespaces. |
| 02:26.04 | Comxx | i think it funny when you look at WoW cheat forums and you see Cartographer ass i Cheat program lol |
| 02:27.09 | Comxx | i can believe pleople pay for that stuff when you can get it free |
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| 02:27.49 | ckknight | link? |
| 02:27.59 | Comxx | yea one sec |
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| 02:29.46 | loonacy | ... and what exactly are you doing looking at wow cheat sites? ;) |
| 02:30.41 | Comxx | lol i dont if that what think i like to hunt down bot and mess with them lol |
| 02:31.25 | NightHawkTheSane | wow, that almost resembled a complete sentence. |
| 02:32.14 | mikma | i'm rick james, bitch |
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| 02:34.54 | Comxx | is there to wow addons with the Cartographer name ? |
| 02:35.12 | Comxx | http://www.taultunleashed.com/ |
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| 02:38.48 | mikma | url-ad! |
| 02:38.53 | mikma | kiiiiick hiiiim! |
| 02:39.37 | Comxx | lol i was ask bu ckknight lol |
| 02:39.45 | Comxx | by* |
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| 02:41.44 | Comxx | or ckknight http://www.google.com/search?q=WoW+Cartographer+Cheat&sourceid=navclient-ff&ie=UTF-8&rlz=1B3GGGL_en__175US215 |
| 02:43.05 | ckknight | lol, it's just a premade database of herbs/mines/etc |
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| 02:44.16 | Comxx | hehe |
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| 02:45.11 | TecnoBrat | "cartographer exploit" |
| 02:45.12 | TecnoBrat | nice |
| 02:46.06 | ckknight | technically it is against the ToS |
| 02:47.57 | Comxx | if they ban you for haveing a database of herbs/mines and stuff that would be sad |
| 02:48.35 | ckknight | nah, they wouldn't |
| 02:48.39 | ckknight | but it is against the ToS |
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| 02:50.05 | Comxx | ckknight: you should make money by selling a premade database lol |
| 02:50.34 | ckknight | I actually am in business with someone who sells a leveling guide based on Cartographer |
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| 02:50.59 | Comxx | nice |
| 02:51.21 | Comxx | the Guide out yet ? |
| 02:51.58 | ckknight | oh yea |
| 02:52.08 | ckknight | http://zygorguides.com/ |
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| 02:52.31 | ckknight | it's actually pretty cool |
| 02:53.03 | starlon | "Do you stare blankly at your map, trying to remember which way to go?" |
| 02:55.11 | ckknight | really, all it is is a Cartographer module |
| 02:55.53 | ckknight | you have Cartographer_ZygorAlliance, and it populates the map with a shitload of points |
| 02:55.53 | ckknight | there's a Horde one, too |
| 02:55.53 | Kyahx | so they are just selling Carto_Quests + Carto_QuestObjectives? |
| 02:55.53 | ckknight | no, Kyahx |
| 02:55.57 | ckknight | it's much more than that |
| 02:56.09 | ckknight | it tells more detail |
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| 02:56.20 | ckknight | i.e. whether it's near a mailbox or such |
| 02:56.23 | mikma | so where could i warez that |
| 02:56.26 | ckknight | and it comes with a PDF guide |
| 02:56.34 | Kyahx | *shrug* |
| 02:56.50 | ckknight | no warez for you, mikma |
| 02:56.55 | mikma | awww :( |
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| 02:57.42 | Comxx | $9.89 hmm |
| 02:58.43 | ckknight | it's $10 now to build popularity |
| 02:58.51 | ckknight | he'll raise it to $35 or so later |
| 02:59.08 | CIA-22 | 03roartindon * r45256 10Assessment/Modules/Deaths.lua: |
| 02:59.08 | CIA-22 | Assessment |
| 02:59.09 | CIA-22 | - Deaths is now default favorite=true, as it has deeper useful information |
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| 02:59.59 | Comxx | http://cgi.ebay.com/WORLD-OF-WARCRAFT-ALLIANCE-1-70-LEVELING-GOLD-GUIDE-WOW_W0QQitemZ190135128913QQihZ009QQcategoryZ15109QQcmdZViewItem |
| 03:00.07 | Comxx | hehe |
| 03:03.07 | zac | ckknight: is Cartographer GPL? |
| 03:03.43 | ckknight | yes |
| 03:03.56 | ckknight | but that doesn't mean the data it creates or uses is GPL |
| 03:04.15 | zac | well, i'd assuming he's still writing code that interacts with cartographer in some way |
| 03:04.36 | ckknight | if by he you mean me, and as the copyright holder of Cartographer, the GPL wouldn't even apply to me |
| 03:04.57 | ckknight | but in either case, even if I weren't, since it's just data being fed in and not code, the argument doesn't apply. |
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| 03:05.20 | zac | guess it entirely depends upon how it's written, but since it costs money, i can't see ;) |
| 03:05.40 | Chaoslux | what's the current subject? |
| 03:05.41 | ckknight | nah, there's a big notes = { data} thing at the top, which is fed in |
| 03:05.47 | Chaoslux | topic* |
| 03:05.55 | ckknight | Chaoslux: leveling guide for Cartographer |
| 03:06.06 | Chaoslux | Oh |
| 03:06.42 | Chaoslux | Isnt Cartographer Quest AND QuestObj together are already a level guide? |
| 03:07.06 | Comxx | so ckknight do you get so much for every Guide he says ? |
| 03:07.12 | ckknight | 50 cents |
| 03:07.25 | Comxx | w |
| 03:07.27 | Comxx | lol |
| 03:07.32 | Comxx | Sells* |
| 03:07.40 | ckknight | *shrug*, it's okay |
| 03:07.45 | ckknight | I got $20 for last week |
| 03:10.29 | Comxx | see you get payed a little for your hard work on your addons =) |
| 03:11.31 | mikma | ckknight's soul is cheap. 0.50$ a piece :D |
| 03:11.41 | Comxx | hehe |
| 03:12.06 | zac | Comxx: 'tis the world of open source :P |
| 03:12.27 | Comxx | yea =) |
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| 03:16.34 | ckknight | soul? |
| 03:16.44 | CIA-22 | 03funkydude * r45257 10BigWigs_Naxxramas/Horsemen.lua: BigWigs_Naxxramas: more tweaks |
| 03:16.56 | ckknight | I don't see what this has at all to do with my soul |
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| 03:17.21 | Comxx | *shrug*, |
| 03:26.17 | Funkeh` | later |
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| 03:37.42 | Pogo | D'oh |
| 03:37.45 | Pogo | can you guys hear me |
| 03:37.58 | Comxx | ? |
| 03:38.08 | PogoTribal | Wasn't identified :) |
| 03:38.15 | PogoTribal | Quick question, what are the dependencies required for Omen? |
| 03:38.28 | PogoTribal | I got people downloading it with Ace2 and Threat1.0 and not working for some people |
| 03:38.41 | PogoTribal | Got my guild switching to it from KTM |
| 03:40.28 | Comxx | http://svn.wowace.com/wowace/trunk/Omen/Omen.toc |
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| 03:41.22 | Comxx | http://www.wowace.com/wiki/Omen |
| 03:43.45 | PogoTribal | Ace2, SharedMediaLib, FuBarPlugin-2.0, Threat-1.0, SpecialEventsEmbed, Babble-2.2, Parser-3.0, SinkLib, those are all required? |
| 03:43.55 | Diao | wtf |
| 03:44.00 | Diao | pitbull_combatfader gets massive errors |
| 03:44.04 | Diao | if someone logs out while in party |
| 03:44.05 | PogoTribal | Ahh ok, Embeds are required then? |
| 03:44.05 | Diao | and logs back in |
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| 03:44.12 | ckknight | PogoTribal: yea |
| 03:44.17 | Comxx | yea |
| 03:44.24 | PogoTribal | Alright, thanks a ton guys. |
| 03:44.27 | Diao | attempt to perform arithmetic on field 'cfstop' (a nil value), line 121 of combatfader.lua |
| 03:46.52 | PogoTribal | What does it mean if an Embed is listed in red? |
| 03:47.24 | Comxx | there no Wiki for it |
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| 03:54.29 | CIA-22 | 03sayclub * r45258 10BigWigs/BlackTemple/ (Council.lua Illidan.lua): |
| 03:54.29 | CIA-22 | BigWigs: |
| 03:54.29 | CIA-22 | <PROTECTED> |
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| 04:03.32 | Comxx | ckknight: is there some wrong with this code [GuildRank?Text(Guild Rank: )][Text([GuildRank])] |
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| 04:19.29 | dylanm | Comxx: [GuildRank?Text(Guild Rank: [GuildRank])] reads better imo. |
| 04:20.09 | Comxx | thanks =) |
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| 04:22.57 | Wobwork | Comxx: Honestly, I'd do the assignation outside that line |
| 04:23.13 | dylanm | Is this for CowTip? |
| 04:23.16 | Wobwork | cause you'll come back to that line in the future and spend 15 minutes trying to figure out what the hell you were thinking |
| 04:23.42 | Comxx | yes dylanm |
| 04:23.43 | ckknight | assignation? |
| 04:23.47 | Wobwork | Clarity of code over saving a single line by hacking it into one line |
| 04:24.32 | NightHawkTheSane | Wobwork: "assignment"? |
| 04:24.35 | Comxx | it for cowtip |
| 04:24.57 | Wobwork | well whatever =P |
| 04:25.09 | Wobwork | I just crashed so I can't recall the line Comxx posted |
| 04:25.22 | Wobwork | cause Pidgin can't handle tab completion after a certain amount of time =P |
| 04:25.37 | Wobwork | but it used a ternery in an array access |
| 04:25.50 | Comxx | this code [GuildRank?Text(Guild Rank: )][Text([GuildRank])] |
| 04:26.34 | Wobwork | Yes, I'd break that out into multiple lines for clarity |
| 04:27.13 | Comxx | hmm like? |
| 04:28.54 | ckknight | [Text([GuildRank])] is equivalent to [GuildRank] |
| 04:29.42 | Wobwork | hard to say without the surrounding code |
| 04:29.58 | Comxx | dylanm gave me this code to use [GuildRank?Text(Guild Rank: [GuildRank])] |
| 04:30.09 | ckknight | go with that, Comxx |
| 04:30.34 | Comxx | k |
| 04:30.35 | FryGuy | http://www.burntpopcorn.net/images/sentry_gun.jpg |
| 04:30.43 | FryGuy | if anyone plays team fortress :) |
| 04:31.31 | Comxx | Wobwork are you the maker of waterfall ? |
| 04:31.46 | Wobwork | Nope |
| 04:32.06 | Wobwork | oh hrm |
| 04:32.12 | Wobwork | it's a dogtag nm me |
| 04:32.33 | NightHawkTheSane | little slow today wob? |
| 04:32.36 | Wobwork | yeah |
| 04:32.39 | Wobwork | I'm in and out |
| 04:32.47 | Wobwork | *points to name* |
| 04:33.20 | Comxx | lol i was thinking are you sure you know what we are talking about lol |
| 04:34.24 | RogueShadow | who plays wow in linux? |
| 04:34.33 | NightHawkTheSane | masochists. |
| 04:34.36 | RogueShadow | I screwed my computer up so i'm stuck in ubuntu |
| 04:34.40 | RogueShadow | until I get my install cd back |
| 04:34.44 | RogueShadow | and can use fixmbr |
| 04:35.35 | Wobwork | I do |
| 04:35.39 | Wobwork | wine works fine |
| 04:35.43 | Wobwork | unless you have an ATI card |
| 04:35.50 | Wobwork | Then you're just screwed |
| 04:37.07 | RogueShadow | you just had to say that |
| 04:37.22 | RogueShadow | I have a slightly older nvidia card around here somewhere |
| 04:37.26 | RogueShadow | maybe later |
| 04:38.16 | RogueShadow | This is a fresh install of ubuntu except I just installed ntfs-3g to get access to my files |
| 04:38.22 | RogueShadow | So I'm sure there's some more to do maybe |
| 04:38.24 | RogueShadow | ... |
| 04:38.44 | RogueShadow | I have an ati card.. |
| 04:40.57 | Kyahx | wine works 'ok' on an ati card |
| 04:41.02 | Kyahx | I have a shitty one in my laptop |
| 04:41.16 | Kyahx | and its playable |
| 04:41.26 | NightHawkTheSane | "He said we were part of 'SG-1'" "Yeah, what's that?" "A team?" "What kind of name is that for a team?" |
| 04:41.27 | RogueShadow | Well there's hope then. |
| 04:41.34 | RogueShadow | I just need to learn to use it. |
| 04:41.40 | RogueShadow | wine wow.exe didn't work so far. |
| 04:41.43 | RogueShadow | it tried |
| 04:41.45 | RogueShadow | it failed |
| 04:41.48 | Kyahx | how so? |
| 04:41.50 | RogueShadow | reading man page now |
| 04:42.05 | RogueShadow | lemme try again, and I'll tell you |
| 04:42.18 | Kyahx | http://www.wowwiki.com/Linux/Wine -- There are some ATI specific things in there, plus tweaks to get better fps |
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| 04:43.35 | Kyahx | RogueShadow: you did install the ati video drivers right? :P |
| 04:43.48 | RogueShadow | as I said, fresh install, dont' know crap yet. |
| 04:43.50 | RogueShadow | lol |
| 04:43.58 | RogueShadow | It worked, but it was so bad it didn't work |
| 04:44.01 | RogueShadow | lol |
| 04:44.07 | Kyahx | ok, System -> Administration -> Restricted Driver Manager |
| 04:44.24 | Kyahx | install your proprietary ATI drivers |
| 04:44.49 | RogueShadow | dont' have Restricted Driver Manager, do I need to log in as root or somethin, or should it be there anyway |
| 04:44.56 | Kyahx | you should have it |
| 04:45.02 | Kyahx | 7.04 right? |
| 04:45.15 | RogueShadow | Believe so |
| 04:45.48 | Kyahx | Well, the Restriced Drivers Manager is the easiest way to get the propriety drivers working |
| 04:46.03 | Wobwork | ahah |
| 04:46.04 | Wobwork | http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=2411937&perpage=40&pagenumber=1 |
| 04:46.16 | RogueShadow | alright i'l try to figure out why I don't have it |
| 04:46.22 | Kyahx | RogueShadow: make sure fully updated |
| 04:46.26 | RogueShadow | Device Manager correctly identifies my hardware |
| 04:46.39 | RogueShadow | Kyahx: Thanks, I did that. :) since it was automatic anyway. |
| 04:46.45 | Kyahx | :) |
| 04:47.03 | Kyahx | Well, I don't know why you wouldn't have the restricted driver manager then |
| 04:47.11 | Kyahx | figure that out, then just follow the page on wowwiki, its pretty easy |
| 04:47.12 | RogueShadow | i'll check the packages or install thing |
| 04:47.24 | NightHawkTheSane | "I dreamed about mining... naked." |
| 04:48.14 | RogueShadow | ATI binary X.Org driver is the first thing I found |
| 04:48.48 | Kyahx | well, there is more work to it than just installing the flgrx pacakges |
| 04:48.59 | Kyahx | hence, best bet is find out why the easy way dosent work :P |
| 04:49.36 | RogueShadow | ok, not in the other package manager list |
| 04:49.38 | RogueShadow | hmm |
| 04:50.38 | Comxx | my icehud i missed up =( |
| 04:50.43 | RogueShadow | maybe the guys in ##linux can help. They've been helping me for a couple hours trying to figure out why windows wont' boot from grub anymore |
| 04:50.50 | Kyahx | heh |
| 04:50.54 | RogueShadow | If I can play wow, and access my windows files, I dont' care anymore |
| 04:50.57 | RogueShadow | I can learn to use linux |
| 04:51.07 | RogueShadow | I can access my windows files now, thanks to ntfs-3g |
| 04:51.22 | Kyahx | isn't that defaulted into 7.04 o.O |
| 04:51.36 | RogueShadow | where do I check the version? |
| 04:51.54 | Kyahx | well, you have feisty I assume |
| 04:51.57 | Kyahx | that's 7.04 |
| 04:52.11 | Kyahx | unless you used a really old CD that you had, you most likely downloaded fiesty |
| 04:52.22 | RogueShadow | Should be, I just downloaded the iso image of the desktop version less than 8 hours ago |
| 04:52.32 | RogueShadow | ;) |
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| 04:52.49 | RogueShadow | then the auto update thing popped up and i installed it all |
| 04:52.58 | RogueShadow | then I installed ntfs-3g and wine |
| 04:53.17 | Kyahx | yea |
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| 04:56.10 | RogueShadow | It wasn't just unchecked either :-/ |
| 04:57.56 | Comxx | ckknight: [GuildRank?Text(Guild Rank: [GuildRank])] Only outputs the [GuildRank] and not the test Guild Rank: |
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| 04:57.56 | ckknight | that's not right |
| 04:59.26 | Comxx | what the rigth way ? |
| 05:00.30 | Comxx | see i want to keep the the text on one side |
| 05:00.40 | Comxx | all* |
| 05:00.46 | Comxx | = the |
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| 05:02.54 | CIA-22 | 03kemayo * r45259 10AuldLangSyne/Info/Info.lua: |
| 05:02.54 | CIA-22 | AuldLangSyne: |
| 05:02.54 | CIA-22 | -Info: Fix /who data gathering for the unguilded. |
| 05:03.05 | Luxfiat | Is there any reason why Omen would report TPS significantly lower than KTM does, even on single targets? |
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| 05:09.58 | Daemoen | azure wrath... hehe, that brings back memories |
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| 05:14.29 | Antiarc | Luxfiat: Different algorithm, likely. |
| 05:15.05 | Cryect | all algorithms should show similar numbers just differences in speed of change |
| 05:15.13 | Antiarc | Not if the window size is different |
| 05:15.26 | Cryect | Window size only matters for the speed of change |
| 05:15.48 | Luxfiat | My issue has been that party members using KTM report that my TPS is much greater than what I can see using Omen |
| 05:16.04 | Cryect | yeah but I recall seeing higher tps numbers in KTM once upon a time |
| 05:16.15 | Antiarc | I'll fire KTM back up again and do some comparisons |
| 05:16.18 | Cryect | like KTM 1k TPS without tanking is possible for my druid but its like 600 TPS in Omen |
| 05:16.23 | Antiarc | Oh, Luxfiat -- |
| 05:16.29 | Antiarc | Omen shows TPS per target |
| 05:16.37 | Antiarc | KTM shows TPS for all targets combined |
| 05:16.41 | Luxfiat | I know |
| 05:16.43 | Antiarc | So that explains it in any fight with 2+ targets |
| 05:16.44 | Luxfiat | Even on single targets |
| 05:17.04 | Arrowmaster | i broke 1200 tps on my warlock with salv once back when i used to use ktm |
| 05:17.45 | Luxfiat | I sustained 2300 TPS (according to guildies) for a 6 second period on an add in TK, and I've never seen anything like that anywhere else. |
| 05:18.17 | Antiarc | You shouldn't be able to do 2300 TPS unless you're chain-mind-controlling |
| 05:18.30 | Luxfiat | That was my thought. |
| 05:20.15 | Cryect | heh our rogues hit 2.4k-3.2k DPS for short periods of time with heroism on sometimes so if no innate threat talent and no salv :-p |
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| 05:20.50 | eXemplar | over nine thousand ? |
| 05:21.06 | Cryect | ? |
| 05:24.16 | Antiarc | I can hit 100,000 DPS |
| 05:24.23 | Antiarc | If your measurement window is short enough |
| 05:27.50 | Cryect | well he was talking for a 6 second time period |
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| 05:30.21 | cncfanatics | gooood morning everyone ! |
| 05:31.40 | CIA-22 | 03arrowmaster * r45260 10DKPmon_eqDKP/exportmod.lua: DKPmon_eqDKP: bugfix, also finally tested previous commit and it still doesn't work properly but I blame eqDKP for that |
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| 05:44.28 | cncfanatics | ~seen cogwheel |
| 05:44.56 | purl | cogwheel <n=chatzill@intra.kistlerwine.com> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowi-lounge, 2d 13h 45m 29s ago, saying: '><'. |
| 05:44.56 | cncfanatics | is purl sleeping ? :o |
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| 06:07.01 | art3mis | i find the most erotic part of a womens body is the boobies |
| 06:08.35 | ckknight_ | lol |
| 06:09.03 | art3mis | YOUWIN AGAIN GRAVITY! |
| 06:10.08 | art3mis | oh speaking of |
| 06:10.21 | art3mis | appearantly the futurama movies are gonna be coming out on dvd shortly |
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| 06:20.48 | CIA-22 | 03adirelle * r45261 10SimpleSelfRebuff/Reminder/Reminder.lua: |
| 06:20.48 | CIA-22 | SimpleSelfRebuff: |
| 06:20.48 | CIA-22 | - Reminders are disabled when dead, on taxi or in combat, |
| 06:20.48 | CIA-22 | - Reminders are sent when unghosting or leaving combat, |
| 06:20.49 | CIA-22 | - Reminders repeat every 20 seconds. |
| 06:22.57 | Dynom | woha, some pwning RC planes: http://www.dumpert.nl/mediabase/21981/e2894a8c/index.html |
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| 06:27.28 | Comxx | Err Antiarc Hemlock doing it again the 2 thing |
| 06:36.38 | cncfanatics | adirelle, ping |
| 06:36.43 | cncfanatics | ~seen adirelle |
| 06:36.45 | purl | adirelle <n=gperreal@tok69-5-82-235-150-60.fbx.proxad.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 21d 20h 29m 1s ago, saying: 'anyway, gonna play a little :p'. |
| 06:36.58 | cncfanatics | why dont people log in while doing their commits :( |
| 06:41.42 | Gngsk | because of your BO |
| 06:42.42 | cncfanatics | :o |
| 06:42.44 | cncfanatics | says Gngsk |
| 06:43.00 | Gngsk | fine, our BO |
| 06:46.43 | CIA-22 | 03roartindon * r45262 10Assessment/Modules/ (BarInterface.lua Deaths.lua): |
| 06:46.43 | CIA-22 | Assessment |
| 06:46.44 | CIA-22 | - More modifications to the death log sets |
| 06:51.47 | CIA-22 | 03kemayo * r45263 10TheSocial-1.0/TheSocial-1.0/TheSocial-1.0.lua: |
| 06:51.47 | CIA-22 | TheSocial-1.0: |
| 06:51.47 | CIA-22 | -Don't fire connected or added events on first scan. |
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| 06:58.10 | Neebler | so I hear they have the internet on computers now |
| 06:59.12 | Lyfe | the whole thing? |
| 06:59.18 | Fritti | Neebler: no really? where do I get that? |
| 06:59.46 | Lyfe | does it fit on a single dvd? |
| 07:01.19 | Neebler | I'm just spreading hearsay |
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| 07:04.54 | RogueShadow | good news, I can play wow in linux, not as well as windows, but I can play. |
| 07:04.57 | RogueShadow | That's all that matters. |
| 07:05.29 | RogueShadow | Now I can put off fixing my dual boot a bit longer. |
| 07:05.41 | xt | ok, keep us updated |
| 07:06.14 | Neebler | good news everybody! the medication now comes in a suppository |
| 07:06.28 | RogueShadow | YAY |
| 07:06.30 | RogueShadow | er.. |
| 07:06.36 | RogueShadow | no? |
| 07:09.30 | Fisker- | http://blizzplanet.com/content/burning-crusade/wow-comic-book/san-diego-comic-con/2007/metzen5.jpg <-invisible sandwich |
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| 07:10.10 | CIA-22 | 03nemes * r45264 10NBuffBars/ (7 files in 3 dirs): NBuffBars: add buff selection, interactive anchor |
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| 07:14.36 | cncfanatics | damn disconnects |
| 07:15.24 | CIA-22 | 03jerry * r45265 10GridAlert/GridAlert.lua: GridAlert: Add Sink options, again. |
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| 07:18.45 | Herio | okay |
| 07:19.14 | Herio | I've added a tag option to the healthbar in cowtip |
| 07:19.22 | Herio | but I've probably overlooked somethings |
| 07:20.31 | Herio | anyone care to take a peek at it? >.> |
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| 07:39.05 | CIA-22 | 03roartindon * r45266 10Assessment/Modules/Deaths.lua: |
| 07:39.05 | CIA-22 | Assessment |
| 07:39.05 | CIA-22 | - Added health value updating internally since UnitHealth is not always up to date |
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| 07:44.08 | mitch0 | yo |
| 07:44.28 | ckknight | you're one of them, mitch0 |
| 07:44.32 | ckknight | you're a cockroach! |
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| 07:52.09 | mitch0 | huh? |
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| 07:52.57 | mitch0 | ckk: do you raid these days? or still in the forties? |
| 07:53.06 | ckknight | clearly, you don't think, you merely react to your environment |
| 07:53.10 | ckknight | 41 right now |
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| 07:54.41 | mitch0 | now whatever makes you think that? |
| 07:55.08 | mitch0 | what did I commit again? :) |
| 07:55.10 | ckknight | because you're a cockroach, and cockroaches merely react |
| 07:56.30 | CIA-22 | 03gandharva * r45267 10MountUp/ItemSwap.lua: |
| 07:56.30 | CIA-22 | MountUp: |
| 07:56.30 | CIA-22 | - added support for 'Charm of Swift Flight' |
| 07:56.30 | CIA-22 | - drycoded, so let me know if it breaks things |
| 07:57.38 | mitch0 | imma no cocroaches! |
| 07:59.11 | mitch0 | ckk: but back on topic, start rading and fix the bug in pitbull that destroys party frames when raid frames are hidden :) |
| 07:59.24 | ckknight | hrm |
| 08:02.38 | mitch0 | ckk: one slight problem with that bug is that it's buggy. doesn't happen all the time :) |
| 08:02.47 | ckknight | lame |
| 08:03.02 | ckknight | now how did you hide the raid frames? |
| 08:05.22 | mitch0 | either from the fubar menu, or from my macro (/script ChangeHidden("raid") or something like that, forgot that function's name again) |
| 08:06.30 | mitch0 | I can show/hide the raid and it's working, but if it pulls the party frames with it during hide, they won't show up when I show the raid frames, and I can't make them show up by toggling the party frames (from the fubar menu) |
| 08:06.39 | mitch0 | party composition changes make it come back |
| 08:07.26 | Grum | any serious unitframe addon should have that option! =D |
| 08:08.07 | CIA-22 | 03gandharva * r45268 10Mendeleev/locales/zhCN.lua: |
| 08:08.07 | CIA-22 | Mendeleev: |
| 08:08.07 | CIA-22 | - update to zhCN localization (thx biggates) |
| 08:08.19 | ckknight | okay, let's scrounge around and take a look |
| 08:08.55 | Grum | ckknight: PitBull seriously rocks btw :) |
| 08:09.06 | Grum | i just hear loads of people crying it's so hard to understand .... grin |
| 08:09.57 | Gngsk | I can't understand pitbull! |
| 08:10.01 | Silviu- | ckknight if u enter game take a look at CowTip too that raid issue ;p |
| 08:10.12 | ckknight | bah |
| 08:10.22 | Grum | i just want 1 bug to be fixed concerning the auras but it's rather hard to reproduce so it seemed ;( |
| 08:11.42 | ckknight | mitch0: you don't do it in combat, do you? |
| 08:11.52 | mitch0 | doesn't matter |
| 08:12.03 | mitch0 | in combat it doesn't hide/show as far as I remember |
| 08:12.08 | mitch0 | but that's understandable |
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| 08:12.26 | Wraanger | heyaz |
| 08:12.51 | Wraanger | question ....anyone tested how accurate Assessement threat numbers are ? |
| 08:13.05 | mitch0 | and yesterday pitbull crashed my PC when I clicked "Accept" on the raid invite! |
| 08:13.56 | mitch0 | (of course it could've been any other addon or blizz code though :) |
| 08:15.23 | Grum | Wraanger: as accurate as Treat-1.0 generates em |
| 08:16.13 | Wraanger | ie Omen and Assesement will give same level of accuracy, eh ? |
| 08:16.49 | cryogen | oh yeah thats something i meant to mention |
| 08:16.57 | DarkImakuni | WAU installation is still bugged... :( |
| 08:17.17 | Grum | no, just the netinstall while having firefox as default browser is (or so it was explained to me ;D) |
| 08:17.18 | cryogen | why does pitbull cause the "this addon tried to perform a blizzard only action" when i try to promote someone to main tank using blizzard's frames |
| 08:17.35 | Grum | cryogen: not sure that pitbull does that |
| 08:17.49 | Grum | i've seen it before i used pitbull and believe oRA2 is a more likely cause of it |
| 08:18.01 | cryogen | well it assocaites it with pitbull at least, and wants to disable pitbull |
| 08:18.38 | DarkImakuni | Well, I cant use IE to get it, I keep getting Access Denied messages |
| 08:18.45 | Grum | hmz you are still using CT_RaidAssist cryogen ? |
| 08:18.51 | cryogen | hell no |
| 08:19.06 | Grum | you dont have a 'rightmouse to MT' in the blizz-raidframes then |
| 08:19.31 | Grum | DarkImakuni: just download the bin.zip and unpack it somewhere :) |
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| 08:19.37 | cryogen | so thats probably something ora2 adds |
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| 08:19.46 | cryogen | so why does it complain at pitbull when i try to use it :) |
| 08:20.00 | Grum | cryogen: prolly some wrapped events orso |
| 08:20.09 | cryogen | (and why does decursive hook the error and tell me about it!) |
| 08:23.25 | DarkImakuni | well, I now have the program (cheers grum!) but it can't connect: Error During Download: System.Net.WebException: The remote server returned an error: (403) Forbidden. |
| 08:23.27 | DarkImakuni | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:23.29 | DarkImakuni | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:23.30 | DarkImakuni | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:24.14 | Grum | DarkImakuni: can you reach the site http://files.wowace.com manually? |
| 08:24.25 | Grum | if not. fix that first ;) |
| 08:24.37 | DarkImakuni | I can |
| 08:25.33 | DarkImakuni | Might as well just download the zips manually... wau has become a hassle and using Tortoise to update blows up the website |
| 08:26.02 | Grum | hmm I havent had a single problem with WAU tbh |
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| 08:26.22 | DarkImakuni | I blame IE7 and politics |
| 08:26.22 | Grum | i did hear someone say there was a new update yesterday, maybe getting 1 version back solves some stuff? |
| 08:26.36 | Grum | IE7 is always good to blame |
| 08:26.52 | cryogen | blame the internet |
| 08:26.59 | cryogen | or blame pitbull, that seems to be popular this morning |
| 08:27.17 | DarkImakuni | PitBull pwns. Don't insult it :) |
| 08:28.01 | xt | my wife left me, I blame pitbull? |
| 08:28.44 | Grum | PitBull really rocks but it's so complex that it's somewhat logically that some funky errors arise :D |
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| 08:29.29 | DarkImakuni | The only thing I dislike about PitBull is that it uses 2.5MiB of memory on a good day, as opposed to the 800KiB used by my other mods |
| 08:29.54 | Grum | lol |
| 08:29.58 | evl | my unitframes use 55KiB :P |
| 08:30.04 | Grum | why would you care the least bit for memory usage? |
| 08:30.07 | fireglow | evl: which ones? |
| 08:30.17 | Grum | really .. if you have a shortage of that your wow will run crap anyways |
| 08:30.20 | evl | oUF with some patches |
| 08:31.02 | xt | OMG MY UI USES MORE THAN 50MB OF MY 2GB RAM CALL THE COPS |
| 08:31.08 | xt | seems to be the general saying |
| 08:31.13 | DarkImakuni | lol xt xD |
| 08:31.18 | Grum | indeed xt |
| 08:31.28 | Grum | the only thing you should worry about is cpu usage, not memory |
| 08:31.29 | Dustwhisper | Mine uses 70 Mb |
| 08:31.50 | Dustwhisper | my computer likes to go "grind grind grind" after i shut down wow after not rebooting for a week |
| 08:31.55 | Grum | i've over 100mb .. *yay* for long logintimes ;D |
| 08:32.03 | Dustwhisper | a bit because my firefox+opera uses 600+ Mb of memory aswell |
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| 08:32.17 | Grum | Dustwhisper: you should kill those regularly |
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| 08:32.25 | Dustwhisper | meh |
| 08:32.32 | Dustwhisper | i usually yave upto 100-150 webpages open |
| 08:32.34 | Dustwhisper | that i dont wanna close |
| 08:32.42 | Dustwhisper | cba |
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| 08:32.50 | Herio | you mean 100-150 porns, right? |
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| 08:33.19 | Dustwhisper | i wish |
| 08:33.24 | ckknight | all in all, memory is a bad indicator of fps usage. CPU is a better indicator. |
| 08:33.36 | ckknight | but I'll agree, I wish PitBull were a bit lighter |
| 08:34.05 | Herio | so long as pitbull doesn't go bulimic >.> |
| 08:34.13 | Herio | that would be one sick puppy =( |
| 08:34.38 | abbat_w | Pff... |
| 08:34.41 | abbat_w | I like PitBull |
| 08:34.42 | Dustwhisper | WOW doesnt use more than 50% cpu or something here |
| 08:34.44 | Dustwhisper | 40 maybe |
| 08:34.51 | Grum | ckknight: if you would have time could you please look into the 'jumpiness' of the aura frames? it ocasionally magically creates a 'space' between my unitframes making the auras jump up 1 row .. =D |
| 08:34.52 | Gngsk | I just wish it didn't freeze wow for 1s when I open the main config menu |
| 08:34.57 | abbat_w | and doesn't matter how many memory they use |
| 08:34.58 | Dustwhisper | what i dislike is that WOW seems to completely rape background CPU time |
| 08:35.03 | Dustwhisper | i dont know if it's due to GPU or CPU though |
| 08:35.09 | ckknight | Grum: I don't have time, sorry |
| 08:35.35 | ckknight | which is the general issue |
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| 08:36.04 | kebinusan | anyone recommend a good video editing package for linux |
| 08:36.12 | Grum | ckknight: i'll try to make a testcase which works but it's kind hard assing i've only have problems with multiple rows of buffs/debuffs =D |
| 08:36.22 | ckknight | I know the issue |
| 08:36.29 | Grum | lol .. *assing .. right .. *as |
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| 08:37.00 | cncfanatics | yo all |
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| 08:42.56 | Dustwhisper | If i wanted to record a persons castinghistory would just sequentually checking the Cast, Fail, Interrupt and Damage and correlating if either Fail, Interrupt or Damage happens after a Cast event ? |
| 08:43.25 | ckknight | yea, basically |
| 08:43.39 | Fin | don't suppose anyone knows of a BLP plugin for Photoshop? |
| 08:44.00 | Fin | last prat 10 |
| 08:44.04 | Fin | +/ |
| 08:45.15 | Dustwhisper | everytime i flush an insect i wonder if they have "oh fuck" moments |
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| 09:01.33 | abbat_w | guys |
| 09:01.51 | Industrial | what about the girls |
| 09:02.07 | Industrial | oh wait, there is no such things as girls on the intarwebz |
| 09:02.07 | abbat_w | someone lvlup enchanting from 0 to 375 (don't sure, KoT +12 spelldmg enchant) |
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| 09:02.33 | abbat_w | How much money this require? |
| 09:02.37 | cncfanatics | ~madness |
| 09:02.38 | purl | Madness? THIS IS SPARTAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
| 09:02.51 | Diao | if you buy all the enchanting mats? |
| 09:02.52 | Diao | quite a bit |
| 09:03.01 | abbat_w | yep |
| 09:03.14 | abbat_w | i want to drop eng for enchanting |
| 09:03.20 | Diao | on my ench chars i always end up with like |
| 09:03.25 | Diao | not even enough money to buy skills |
| 09:03.37 | Diao | i would estimate |
| 09:03.39 | Diao | 5k+ gold |
| 09:03.43 | Diao | at minimum |
| 09:03.48 | abbat_w | uh |
| 09:03.54 | abbat_w | not bad ;) |
| 09:06.42 | abbat_w | ah, 360 only, not 375 |
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| 09:08.33 | cncfanatics | ~madness |
| 09:08.34 | purl | Madness? THIS IS SPARTAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
| 09:08.56 | Dustwhisper | Can a table have both records AND a subarray? What I mean is table["foo"].x and table["foo"]["bar"].x both acceptable for the same table ? |
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| 09:09.51 | krka_ | Dustwhisper: yes |
| 09:10.03 | krka_ | err, or no |
| 09:10.12 | krka_ | if x is a table in that case, then yes |
| 09:10.36 | krka_ | table["foo"].x is exactly the same thingg as table["foo"]["x"] |
| 09:11.37 | Dustwhisper | I was thinking more a long the lines of how in C++ it be something like struct { int x; int y; otherstructorarray Myarr[100] } |
| 09:12.22 | Dustwhisper | Something like history[integerindex].time history[integerindex].date history[integerindex][participant] |
| 09:12.26 | Dustwhisper | guess that's not legal then |
| 09:12.33 | krka_ | sure, that's legal |
| 09:12.34 | Nargiddley | a table is just a set of key-value pairs |
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| 09:12.45 | krka_ | just be careful not to have any participants named "date" or "time" |
| 09:12.54 | Dustwhisper | oooh |
| 09:13.02 | Dustwhisper | i never even considered how that'd affect it |
| 09:13.08 | krka_ | i personally try to avoid mixing static / dynamic keys in a table |
| 09:13.20 | Nargiddley | whats the difference ? |
| 09:13.31 | krka_ | unless i am 100% certain the the keysets are disjunct |
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| 09:13.53 | Dustwhisper | something tells me having one table for each wouldnt be a dumb idea then |
| 09:14.08 | Dustwhisper | something like historyDate[integerindex].time and .date that correlates to the historytable |
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| 09:14.45 | Nargiddley | well if you still want it to be part of history[integerindex] then something like |
| 09:15.09 | Nargiddley | history[integerindex].participants[patricipant] would keep it seperate from .date and .time |
| 09:15.31 | Dustwhisper | oh |
| 09:15.34 | Dustwhisper | well that is just as nice |
| 09:15.48 | Dustwhisper | is that because that's technically disambiguing the first and third part ? |
| 09:16.12 | Nargiddley | well its still having a seperate table for the participants |
| 09:16.15 | Dustwhisper | yea |
| 09:16.21 | Dustwhisper | but what if a player was called participant ? |
| 09:16.38 | Dustwhisper | oh since it's on a different node that shouldnt matter |
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| 09:16.55 | Nargiddley | different table yeah |
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| 09:18.48 | Nargiddley | hm, can animation styles in Parrot have options ? |
| 09:20.29 | abbat_w | they have |
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| 09:21.27 | PogoTribal | I need a mod that pulls the guild roster off as a snapshot into a text file :X |
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| 09:22.19 | Grum | [11:12:45] <krka_> just be careful not to have any participants named "date" or "time" <-- that kind of things you generally don't accept :) |
| 09:22.45 | Grum | oh lol you don't ofc .. gah wtb 'scrolldownbutton' |
| 09:24.14 | CIA-22 | 03jerry * r45270 10ItemBonusLib/ItemBonusLib-1.0/ItemBonusLib-1.0.lua: ItemBonusLib: add Surefooted pattern. Add french names for a few enchants. |
| 09:27.21 | krka_ | Grum? |
| 09:28.38 | Grum | nevermind ;) ... silly 'not seeing the end of the conversation-because-i'm-not-scrolled-down-all-the-way-bug hit me ;( |
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| 09:31.48 | krka_ | right, but that line on its own should be valid enough |
| 09:33.35 | Grum | as you said: it's scary to mix static and dynamic if collissions can occur :D |
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| 09:39.01 | krka_ | i like to mix integer keys with string keys though |
| 09:39.50 | Fin | [11:48:23] [Freenode] --> There is no such nick krka |
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| 09:40.11 | krka | yo! |
| 09:40.19 | cncfanatics | nerf disconnects please |
| 09:40.22 | cncfanatics | ~madness |
| 09:40.23 | purl | Madness? THIS IS SPARTAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
| 09:40.24 | krka | I am svedish yah! |
| 09:42.04 | cncfanatics | meh, this is my last day of work |
| 09:42.05 | cncfanatics | going sooo slow |
| 09:43.10 | abbat_w | ~tuplad |
| 09:43.11 | purl | http://www.taikamaailma.org/gallery/Sekavaa/1080065830042.jpg |
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| 09:43.28 | fireglow | hah |
| 09:43.45 | theoddone33 | 300-375 tailoring powerleveling takes 2160x netherweave |
| 09:43.48 | theoddone33 | that's a lot |
| 09:43.59 | Mecdemort | i thought it was 3k |
| 09:44.09 | theoddone33 | this guide said 2100 approx |
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| 09:47.53 | Health | Hmm. How do you set the ClearFont font in the 3d space? |
| 09:47.56 | Health | For name tags |
| 09:48.17 | Health | Did an update of ClearFont2 and got the default font |
| 09:49.41 | krka_ | STOP ASKING NOOB QUESTIONS HEALTH |
| 09:49.46 | Health | WTF |
| 09:49.48 | Health | DIE! |
| 09:50.06 | krka_ | :D |
| 09:50.21 | krka_ | rtfm? |
| 09:50.40 | Health | There is none r-tard! |
| 09:50.52 | krka_ | http://www.clearfont.co.uk/readme.html |
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| 09:51.36 | Health | doh |
| 09:51.44 | Health | Design.lua it is then! |
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| 09:53.30 | Health | It was commented out. Nice! |
| 09:54.25 | Lywellyn | Anyone know exactly how PeriodicTable-3.0 Functions can be called by other addons? |
| 09:55.03 | cncfanatics | ~madness |
| 09:55.03 | purl | Madness? THIS IS SPARTAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
| 09:55.07 | cncfanatics | I'm bored, sigh |
| 09:55.16 | cncfanatics | Lywellyn, aint there any api doc ? |
| 09:55.17 | Lywellyn | ~madness cncfanatics |
| 09:55.23 | Lywellyn | darn. |
| 09:55.37 | cncfanatics | ~shoot Lywellyn |
| 09:55.37 | purl | ACTION shoots Lywellyn in the ear with a phase pistol! |
| 09:55.44 | cncfanatics | muahaha :p |
| 09:55.45 | Lywellyn | there's http://www.wowace.com/wiki/PeriodicTable-3.0/API however, it isn't helping me much :( |
| 09:56.20 | Lywellyn | That link shows the functions that can be called...but I don't know what to prefix them with :( |
| 09:56.29 | Nargiddley | local pt = AceLibrary("PeriodicTable-3.0") pt:ItemInSet(1234) |
| 09:56.47 | Nargiddley | is the general way to get at any librarys functions |
| 09:56.54 | Lywellyn | Ah hah. |
| 09:57.35 | Nargiddley | or AceLibrary("PeriodicTable-3.0"):ItemInSet(1234) |
| 09:57.43 | cncfanatics | that takes more memory though |
| 09:57.50 | cncfanatics | I'd suggest localizing it as in nargiddley's first example |
| 09:58.16 | Nargiddley | shouldnt take any more memory, its just an extra function call |
| 09:59.15 | Lywellyn | The first example would make using functions a lot easier throughout the addon. |
| 09:59.33 | Lywellyn | Basically, I'm trying to convert FuBar_HerbTrackerFu into a tracker addon for potions. |
| 09:59.39 | Lywellyn | I'm an alchemist, what can I say. |
| 09:59.39 | Nargiddley | yeah, stick the local at the top then |
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| 10:02.00 | Lywellyn | Wish there was a way to call a block of code in-game to test it. |
| 10:02.37 | Fin | Lywellyn: I don't get it |
| 10:02.47 | Fin | Lywellyn: oh, now I do |
| 10:03.00 | Fin | I thought HerbTracker tracked the location of herbs |
| 10:03.05 | Fin | s/thought/assumed/ |
| 10:03.05 | Lywellyn | It does |
| 10:03.15 | Lywellyn | I want to use that code to make a *new* addon |
| 10:03.16 | Fin | as in, the coordinates |
| 10:03.20 | Lywellyn | no |
| 10:03.29 | Lywellyn | tracks how many of each herb you have on you and your alts |
| 10:03.45 | Lywellyn | Cartographer:Herbalism does what you're thinking |
| 10:04.06 | Lywellyn | where is that at? |
| 10:04.07 | Fin | yes, I know |
| 10:04.22 | Fin | it's in the SVN, I believe |
| 10:04.43 | Fin | it's not a FuBar addon, but I can do /find major healing potion, and it'll tell me where they are on any of my characters |
| 10:05.43 | Lywellyn | ahh. I'd rather have HerbTrackerFu's functionality...it maintains a list, so all I have to do is mouseover and all the items I want to know about are right there |
| 10:06.04 | Lywellyn | That, and I need to learn more about Lua anyways...what better way than converting someone's mod into one I can use? |
| 10:06.06 | Nargiddley | Lywellyn, http://wowdev.org/wiki/index.php/LuaPad |
| 10:06.19 | Lywellyn | Next step is writing my own addon from scratch....then....take over the world!!! |
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| 10:07.14 | Lywellyn | Nargiddley: YES! That's whawt I'm looking for! |
| 10:07.20 | Lywellyn | s/whawt/what |
| 10:07.30 | Lywellyn | bah |
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| 10:10.52 | CIA-22 | 03hshh * r45271 10EasyTrack/ (EasyTrack.lua EasyTrack.xml): EasyTrack: add hunter aspect. add shaman spell. NEW, display spell icon beside the menu. Included enUS localization, sorry for lost it before. |
| 10:11.48 | CIA-22 | 03hshh * r45272 10PlayerMenu/ (ExtMenu.xml Locale.lua Locale.zhcn.lua PlayerMenu.lua): PlayerMenu: display spell icon beside the extended menu. |
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| 10:11.56 | Lywellyn | damnit. LuaPad isn't compatible. |
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| 10:15.22 | Lywellyn | PotionTrackerFu/libs: Do I have to keep these in there, and if so, how do I keep them updated? or is that automatic in the SVN? |
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| 10:15.32 | Nargiddley | hm, there has to be one like that up to date |
| 10:16.08 | Grum | Lywellyn: i think you need to do it manually as you can then decide which versions you want - not sure though |
| 10:17.09 | Mecdemort | dang cant pass a function to AceOptions desc fields |
| 10:18.05 | Lywellyn | So I can put the PeriodicTable-3.0 folder inside the libs folder and that's considered embedded? |
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| 10:22.08 | CIA-22 | 03hshh * r45273 10Cartographer/ (4 files in 4 dirs): Cartographer: fix zhCN localization problem |
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| 10:25.39 | Athou | is it possible to execute secure actions from a tablet-2.0 button ? |
| 10:25.57 | xt | maybe |
| 10:26.34 | Gngsk | I don't think so |
| 10:27.52 | Mecdemort | Nargiddley: I'm still reading through how baggins works, but to make sure i'm not beating a dead horse do you think it'd be possible to get baggins to display, using the current bag configuration, a list of items that i have? |
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| 10:34.50 | odt | anyone know of an addon that would enable you to record raid data, like who was there, loot etc |
| 10:34.53 | odt | basic stuff |
| 10:35.08 | Nargiddley | Mecdemort, how do you mean ? |
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| 10:36.11 | CIA-22 | 03darkimakuni * r45274 10AddonLoader/libs/: |
| 10:36.11 | CIA-22 | AddonLoader |
| 10:36.11 | CIA-22 | - Add missing external |
| 10:38.52 | Lywellyn | How can you get an item's name from an ItemID? |
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| 10:39.03 | Mecdemort | Nargiddley: im trying to figure out a way to get baggins to display a list of items rather than what the bags contain, but so far im thinking that would take a lot of new code |
| 10:39.05 | JoshBorke | GetItemInfo? |
| 10:39.05 | Lywellyn | PeriodicTable returns mostly itemIDs...which I'd need the names for. :p |
| 10:39.51 | Nargiddley | Mecdemort, just a text based list ? |
| 10:40.14 | Mecdemort | currently item links, but the contents of the list can be whatever makes it easiest |
| 10:40.46 | Nargiddley | wouldnt be too hard, but then the existing baggins stuff wouldnt have much to do with it unless you wanted it categorised |
| 10:41.08 | Mecdemort | basically ya, just display the list as if looking at your own bags |
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| 10:42.03 | Nargiddley | so same sorting as the baggins view, just a list ? |
| 10:42.15 | Mecdemort | yup |
| 10:42.18 | krka_ | is it just me or is bartender sticky frames behaving really oddly? |
| 10:42.45 | krka_ | seems to stick to x / y indepedently |
| 10:42.57 | Nargiddley | if you've got the way to output i'll tell you how to get the list out of the current view |
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| 10:45.26 | Mecdemort | hmm i said it backwards cuz that would be too easy :p I have a list of items and i need baggins to display it instead of the default bag contents |
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| 10:45.35 | cncfanatics | ~madness |
| 10:45.36 | purl | Madness? THIS IS SPARTAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
| 10:45.48 | Nargiddley | ahh |
| 10:46.05 | Nargiddley | so baggins viewing an alts inventory basicly ? |
| 10:46.48 | Dustwhisper| | If there's one thing i'd love for baggings it'd be the ability to control the sections more |
| 10:46.50 | Mecdemort | you got it, like i said i've already got all the item lists, just trying to figure out a way to get baggins to display it |
| 10:46.53 | Dustwhisper| | size, placement in frame etc |
| 10:47.11 | Nargiddley | The item slots currently work on bag/slot ids so thats where alot of the new code would go |
| 10:47.35 | Nargiddley | and all the rules do the same |
| 10:48.06 | Mecdemort | thats what i was afraid of |
| 10:48.18 | cncfanatics | make fake "alt" slots ? |
| 10:49.10 | Nargiddley | well if its a list of itemid's then some of the rules wont work anyway :/ |
| 10:49.35 | cncfanatics | hmmm, why couldnt yet get the itemid from alt bags ? |
| 10:49.38 | Mecdemort | that was my first thought, to make bags 12+, but that would require a lot of hooks |
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| 10:50.39 | Mecdemort | currently its all saved as {itemLink, count} but easily changeable to whatever |
| 10:50.48 | cncfanatics | hmmm, sorry for fiddling, but I just logged in and i'm quite intrested, Mecdemort, you are trying to make baggins work with alts ? |
| 10:51.14 | Dustwhisper| | is there any kind of debugmode or debugger you can use when coding addons? |
| 10:51.32 | Mecdemort | alts and banks ya, i've got the database working and currently it just displays all the items in a submenu of baggins |
| 10:52.12 | JoshBorke | Dustwhisper|: not really no, i would recommend DevTools and a good error grabber |
| 10:52.43 | cncfanatics | Mecdemort, I supose baggins could be reworked to allow bags based on a table of itemid's ? (with sorting) |
| 10:52.51 | Nargiddley | yeah, the database is the easy bit |
| 10:52.53 | cncfanatics | but only make them clickable if you have a bagid/slot |
| 10:53.02 | cncfanatics | what u think Nargiddley ? |
| 10:53.18 | Nargiddley | its the (with sorting) thats the big problem |
| 10:53.21 | Mecdemort | i figured it would be, just trying to find the best approach to tackle the display before i dive in |
| 10:53.48 | Nargiddley | since rules all work based on bag:slot, and the whole filtering system is based around that as well |
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| 10:54.08 | cncfanatics | hmmmm |
| 10:54.20 | cncfanatics | Probably would need a recode of the whole filterring system ? |
| 10:54.27 | Nargiddley | and since everything is heavily cached, switching the view on/off would present a problem |
| 10:54.35 | Diao | strange |
| 10:54.39 | Diao | seems like every other update |
| 10:54.49 | Diao | cartographer won't show instance maps when i enter an instance |
| 10:54.53 | Diao | then i update again and it fixes itself |
| 10:56.02 | JoshBorke | stop updating it then? |
| 10:56.05 | Nargiddley | Bind, Tooltip, ContainerType would just flat out not work with itemids |
| 10:57.21 | Diao | lol |
| 10:57.30 | Nargiddley | honestly the easiest way would be to save the actual layout of the bags, still not too easy to hack it to view it but easier than trying to sort it on the fly |
| 10:58.03 | Mecdemort | thats not a bad idea |
| 10:58.20 | Nargiddley | it would probably be easier to create a simpler set of frames for it |
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| 10:58.35 | cncfanatics | damn those disconnects |
| 10:58.37 | Nargiddley | the section frames hold alot of info |
| 10:58.47 | Mecdemort | how does baggins store internally the contents? |
| 10:58.56 | cncfanatics | bag:id I supose ? |
| 10:59.21 | Nargiddley | the filtering system holds a cache of categories |
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| 11:00.23 | Nargiddley | categorycache[categoryname]["bag:slot"] = true |
| 11:00.57 | Nargiddley | sections have a layout each |
| 11:01.44 | Nargiddley | which is a representation of the item buttons that are shown, with all the slots each is showing etc |
| 11:03.13 | Mecdemort | hmm ya it would probably be best to just store how its displayed and recreate that rather than on the fly |
| 11:03.55 | CIA-22 | 03daviesh * r45275 10AtlasLoot/ (. AtlasLoot.toc LoDModules.xml filelist.wau): |
| 11:03.55 | CIA-22 | AtlasLoot: |
| 11:03.55 | CIA-22 | - Attempt to convert AtlasLoot into a package |
| 11:06.47 | cncfanatics | Mecdemort, that might be an option indeed |
| 11:07.12 | CIA-22 | 03sayclub * r45276 10GridAlert/locales/koKR.lua: GridAlert: Updated localization koKR |
| 11:07.34 | Nargiddley | if its coming from alts it would also mean you'd get a proper sorting. eg if they have different professions so different categories |
| 11:08.20 | Nargiddley | i've been thinking about the best way to do it for a while, never got very far tho |
| 11:08.20 | Mecdemort | logically you probably want to see the alt's items the same way they're stored so it would probably give the right effect |
| 11:09.01 | Nargiddley | I want to get the new editor finished, bags/bank bags in and then its probably heading for a proper release |
| 11:09.26 | Mecdemort | ya i know you wanted to wait for a proper release thats why im askin for advice, dont want to step on your toes |
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| 11:15.21 | CIA-22 | AtlasLoot: |
| 11:15.21 | CIA-22 | - Minor tweak to package setup |
| 11:15.32 | CIA-22 | 03mitchell 07Moo * r45279 10RangeCheck-1.0/: .no |
| 11:16.08 | CIA-22 | 03mitchell 07Moo * r45280 10RangeCheck-1.0/: Starting work on the Tauren fix |
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| 11:20.12 | cncfanatics | ~madness |
| 11:20.13 | purl | Madness? THIS IS SPARTAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
| 11:20.15 | cncfanatics | damn those disconnects |
| 11:21.07 | CIA-22 | 03roartindon * r45281 10Assessment/Modules/Deaths.lua: |
| 11:21.07 | CIA-22 | Assessment |
| 11:21.07 | CIA-22 | - Death event log time is now and option. |
| 11:21.07 | CIA-22 | - Removed debugging code |
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| 11:23.34 | mitch0 | is the second return val of UnitRace() all-uppercase, or just capitalized? (TAUREN or Tauren) ? |
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| 11:25.40 | CIA-22 | 03trh * r45282 10VanasKoS/ (13 files in 2 dirs): VanasKoS: some optimizations and changes for return values of isonlist's. |
| 11:27.20 | CIA-22 | 03trh * r45283 10VanasKoS/modules/CommandLineHandler.lua: VanasKoS: fixed syntax error |
| 11:27.22 | cncfanatics | ~seen cogwheel |
| 11:27.24 | purl | cogwheel <n=chatzill@intra.kistlerwine.com> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowi-lounge, 2d 19h 27m 57s ago, saying: '><'. |
| 11:28.36 | Dustwhisper| | is time() or GetTime() a stupid idea to use as a table[key] when that table is being used to identify what dmg event happens at what time ? |
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| 11:34.27 | CIA-22 | 03sayclub * r45284 10PlayerMenu/Locale.koKR.lua: |
| 11:34.27 | CIA-22 | PlayerMenu: |
| 11:34.27 | CIA-22 | - Updated localization koKR |
| 11:35.44 | Mecdemort | Dustwhisper|: i can see that taking up a lot of memory very quickly |
| 11:35.56 | snurre | http://cgi.ebay.com/FIDSCHI-INSEL-90-Hektar-Blue-Lagoon-Island-Resort_W0QQitemZ140123811370QQihZ004QQcategoryZ66406QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem |
| 11:35.57 | snurre | wtb |
| 11:38.29 | Mecdemort | cool, does he have any bridges for sale too? |
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| 11:39.55 | cncfanatics | ~madness |
| 11:39.56 | purl | Madness? THIS IS SPARTAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
| 11:40.11 | [dRaCo] | too many ! :( |
| 11:40.44 | Industrial | profit means loss |
| 11:40.49 | mitch0 | http://ace.pastey.net/71580 <- is the highlighted line necessary for the closure to get the correct 'index' and 'range' values, or I could use the 'i', and 'v' directly? |
| 11:41.14 | CIA-22 | 03chuanhsing * r45285 10BigWigs/Outland/Gruul.lua: BigWigs: update zhTW |
| 11:41.17 | phyber | ~seen Tristan |
| 11:41.18 | purl | tristan is currently on #debian, last said: 'it's tomcat tomcat-5.5.17-r1 running under gentoo 2.6.16-gentoo-r9 with sun jvm 1.5.0_07-b03'. |
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| 11:42.01 | Industrial | mitch0: no, i and v are local variables (to the loop) |
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| 11:42.32 | mitch0 | so the line is not necessary then. I sorta remembe seeing code like that somewhere |
| 11:42.42 | Industrial | nop |
| 11:42.47 | mitch0 | thanks |
| 11:43.07 | Industrial | you can also make a local out of that function |
| 11:43.19 | Industrial | because itl make a new one every iteration |
| 11:44.05 | mitch0 | but it needs to make a new one so it grabs the correct "index", doesn't it? |
| 11:45.06 | mitch0 | the function defined doesn't have "index" as its param, it's only used in its body |
| 11:45.50 | Industrial | also in that function you are returning true, but it will also return true if the if doesnt match |
| 11:46.10 | Industrial | so you could do "if not foo then return false end" |
| 11:46.11 | mitch0 | that's not so, I'm sure of that :) |
| 11:46.19 | Industrial | it is |
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| 11:46.30 | Industrial | the if is false, whole block gets skipped |
| 11:46.31 | mitch0 | well, it'd seriously break my addon, which it doesn't do |
| 11:46.38 | Industrial | end of function without abnormalities |
| 11:46.42 | Industrial | returns true |
| 11:47.06 | krka_ | you could save a few bytes by doing: "if foo then <otherstuff here> end" |
| 11:48.06 | mitch0 | industrial: well, this code is "in production" and it works as if it returned false, if that if failed, so I highly doubt it returns true in that case |
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| 11:49.04 | Industrial | >>> function check(foo) if foo then return true end end; if check(false) then print('yay') else print('nay') end |
| 11:49.12 | Industrial | oh, no lua bot here |
| 11:49.29 | cncfanatics | cool function :p |
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| 11:50.16 | Industrial | mitch0: well try that ingame :P |
| 11:50.47 | Industrial | <PROTECTED> |
| 11:51.04 | mitch0 | Lua 5.1.2 Copyright (C) 1994-2007 Lua.org, PUC-Rio |
| 11:51.04 | mitch0 | > function check(foo) if foo then return true end end; if check(false) then print('yay') else print('nay') end |
| 11:51.04 | mitch0 | nay |
| 11:51.04 | mitch0 | > |
| 11:51.12 | Industrial | so im right :P |
| 11:51.22 | mitch0 | erm, no? |
| 11:51.25 | Industrial | or, wait |
| 11:51.34 | Industrial | huh? |
| 11:51.38 | CIA-22 | 03fin * r45286 10ACP/ACP.lua: ACP: added function ACP:ToggleUI() (provides an easy way to toggle the addon list from outside) |
| 11:51.52 | mitch0 | you are teh wrong actually :) |
| 11:52.25 | mitch0 | functions without return just return nil is my guess |
| 11:52.46 | krka_ | no, they return nothing |
| 11:52.59 | mitch0 | or whatever, but that still evaluates to false |
| 11:53.22 | Industrial | krka_: doh why didnt you say that earlier :P |
| 11:53.23 | krka_ | technically no |
| 11:53.31 | Industrial | I really thought they return true :| |
| 11:53.39 | krka_ | return nil -> one return value |
| 11:53.45 | krka_ | return -> zero return values |
| 11:53.52 | krka_ | return nil, nil -> two return values |
| 11:54.08 | mitch0 | ok, but it doesn't make any difference in "if (func) ... " |
| 11:54.30 | krka_ | right, since you truncate the return values to one result |
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| 11:55.01 | Industrial | :) learn new stuff every day |
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| 11:55.22 | mitch0 | industrial: so I'm guessing your other idea of making that func a local there is also wrong? :) |
| 11:55.57 | Industrial | try making a table and in the loop add the function to the table |
| 11:56.03 | Industrial | then print #table |
| 11:56.09 | Industrial | 9after the loop) |
| 11:56.49 | Industrial | when in doubt just try it out :) |
| 11:56.59 | mitch0 | I know that it'll generate a new function each iteration, but I don't see how that could be avoided seeing that I'm using the local "index" in the function body |
| 11:57.10 | krka_ | link? |
| 11:57.26 | mitch0 | http://ace.pastey.net/71580 |
| 11:57.30 | krka_ | thanks |
| 11:57.52 | krka_ | right, you need a closure there |
| 11:57.54 | mitch0 | we established that the highlighted line is unnecessary. |
| 11:58.06 | krka_ | you could pregenerate a bunch of closures though |
| 11:58.09 | mitch0 | krka: is that at least true? ^^ |
| 11:58.11 | krka_ | but i am not sure it would be worth the effor |
| 11:58.32 | krka_ | mitch0: actually, yes it is |
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| 11:58.37 | krka_ | you could use i and v directly |
| 11:58.42 | mitch0 | alrighty |
| 11:58.46 | krka_ | however, that wasn't the case with lua 5.0 |
| 11:58.58 | krka_ | every function would share the same upvalue |
| 11:58.59 | mitch0 | ah, so that's why I saw such code |
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| 11:59.12 | krka_ | weird behaviour in lua 5.0, imo |
| 11:59.31 | Industrial | anyway, mitch0, you are adding a checking function for everything in a list - thats a different function doing the same thing separately for every item |
| 11:59.50 | mitch0 | EPARSE |
| 11:59.52 | Industrial | thats why I suggested changing the implementation (to one single function) |
| 12:00.14 | mitch0 | ah, I guess I know what you mean |
| 12:00.14 | krka_ | yeah, if you have control over "addChecker", then i'd change the semantics of the function instead |
| 12:00.18 | mitch0 | but it can't be done |
| 12:00.22 | krka_ | so that addChecker calls it would unit and index |
| 12:00.28 | mitch0 | nocando |
| 12:00.35 | krka_ | i see |
| 12:00.36 | mitch0 | there are 2 kinds of checks intermingled |
| 12:00.44 | mitch0 | interact distance and spell range |
| 12:00.59 | mitch0 | one needs index, the other needs spellid |
| 12:01.00 | krka_ | ah |
| 12:01.01 | Dustwhisper| | Oh maaan my code actually works, maybe I wasnt as retarded as I first though |
| 12:01.04 | Dustwhisper| | *thought |
| 12:01.09 | krka_ | just pregenerate one function per index |
| 12:01.17 | mitch0 | krka: that I'll do though |
| 12:01.21 | mitch0 | as I have 3 such lists |
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| 12:02.18 | mitch0 | but it's really just aesthetics, save like 6 function declarations |
| 12:02.30 | mitch0 | not really worth the trouble |
| 12:02.35 | mitch0 | maybe I won't do it after all :) |
| 12:03.16 | mitch0 | do these anon functions (with their declaration) get GCd if they are not referenced any more? |
| 12:03.16 | krka_ | right |
| 12:03.21 | krka_ | yes |
| 12:03.31 | mitch0 | then I just won't bother. keeps code cleaner |
| 12:03.35 | krka_ | so it's no biggie, but it could be nice to avoid gc if possible |
| 12:03.38 | krka_ | http://ace.pastey.net/71581 |
| 12:03.59 | mitch0 | krka: it runs on average once per login/reload |
| 12:04.04 | krka_ | ah |
| 12:04.10 | krka_ | then keep it as it is |
| 12:04.24 | mitch0 | unless you level up like hell :) |
| 12:04.36 | krka_ | still, it's no biggie |
| 12:04.36 | mitch0 | or like switching your gladiator gloves on/off for no apparent reason |
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| 12:19.33 | Fisker- | lolwut thottbot got ownt |
| 12:20.02 | Qaarh | hrm.. can someone help me identify a combat log addon? |
| 12:20.09 | Qaarh | it's in the lower right: http://img260.imageshack.us/img260/3532/screenshot071707000410kf7.jpg |
| 12:20.40 | Grum | without looking: eavesdrop |
| 12:20.51 | Grum | SWStats it is :) |
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| 12:21.13 | abbat_w | Grum! You fail! ;) |
| 12:21.19 | abbat_w | it's not eavesdrop ;) |
| 12:21.29 | Grum | but i've never found that screen after i closed it on startup O.o |
| 12:21.33 | Grum | i know ! it's swstats ;) |
| 12:21.40 | Qaarh | Grum: thanks |
| 12:21.49 | Mecdemort | lol ya i cant figure out how to open that screen back up either |
| 12:21.51 | Grum | which is > any other dmg-tracking addon currently existing |
| 12:22.01 | Qaarh | yeah, it looks quite nice |
| 12:22.12 | Grum | some of the important features: |
| 12:22.43 | Grum | data-syncing, timeline features (look back at older segments), sweet looks |
| 12:23.11 | Qaarh | well, Recount is quite nice for that too, but the way that is displayed, making it a combat log, is really nice.. |
| 12:23.12 | Dustwhisper| | the looks is pretty shit tbh |
| 12:23.25 | Dustwhisper| | that's the SWStats log Qaarh |
| 12:23.38 | Qaarh | yah |
| 12:23.53 | Grum | recount cant do 'seperate segments' nor syncing afaik |
| 12:24.09 | Dustwhisper| | what is "separate segments" ? |
| 12:24.09 | Fisker- | http://thottbot.com/i23162 <-hahaha |
| 12:24.12 | Grum | i want to know how much dmg/healing was done at a certain fight/section of an instance |
| 12:24.28 | Dustwhisper| | "last fight" =D |
| 12:24.31 | Dustwhisper| | after killing a boss |
| 12:24.33 | Mecdemort | i think its called swstats unilog |
| 12:24.43 | Qaarh | anyone know where to find it? |
| 12:24.44 | Grum | Dustwhisper|: that's not enough nor acceptable |
| 12:24.55 | Grum | oh well ;D |
| 12:25.00 | Dustwhisper| | i know |
| 12:25.05 | Dustwhisper| | hence why im trying to put together my own mod =D |
| 12:25.08 | Dustwhisper| | which will take a year or two |
| 12:25.08 | Mecdemort | but i cant figure out how to show it |
| 12:25.14 | Dustwhisper| | and LOOL Fisker- =D |
| 12:25.31 | Fisker- | i must say |
| 12:25.40 | Mecdemort | oo /swl |
| 12:25.51 | Dustwhisper| | yes it's /Swl |
| 12:25.54 | Pkekyo|cookieplz | <-- in need of a fuckall awesome prot build...any tips reguarding where to look? |
| 12:25.59 | Dustwhisper| | the cool think about SWL is to click on a header |
| 12:26.00 | Dustwhisper| | and filter |
| 12:26.06 | Dustwhisper| | best way to find out which retard ninjapulled something =D |
| 12:26.10 | Fisker- | it's pretty stupid to allow html in a username |
| 12:26.35 | yacoob | hm |
| 12:26.39 | Mecdemort | lol the first time i updated to sws 2.1.2 i closed that window and out-of-sight-out-of-mind but now it looks pretty cool |
| 12:26.48 | Grum | indeed Mecdemort |
| 12:26.48 | Megalon | Fisker-: pretty stupid to allow html anywhere :c |
| 12:26.52 | yacoob | is that true that there's a rumor about mercenaries for hire in new expansion? |
| 12:27.02 | Grum | i wish eavesdrop got some more decent options |
| 12:27.15 | Fisker- | Megalon true :P |
| 12:27.29 | Qaarh | is that swstats unilog a part of swstats? |
| 12:27.38 | Grum | dragging the frame by a handle other than 'the tab above it'. de-docking the 'skill history'-tab so it doesnt just go 'somewhere' i dont want it |
| 12:27.39 | Qaarh | or is it a separate addon? |
| 12:27.43 | Grum | part of afaik |
| 12:27.51 | Grum | but seperate in your addons dir |
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| 12:28.28 | Mecdemort | it comes in the download from their site |
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| 12:29.48 | mitch0 | I hope vio will get this timeline thing, too in the near future |
| 12:30.04 | mitch0 | those "sections" you were talking about |
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| 12:32.18 | Mecdemort | does swl have infinit length? |
| 12:32.42 | mitch0 | does you computer have infinite memory? :) |
| 12:32.48 | Mecdemort | you bet |
| 12:33.01 | Megalon | Mecdemort: no, it saves SW_UL_MAX_BUFFER entries |
| 12:33.08 | Megalon | in the log |
| 12:33.11 | mitch0 | you're playing on the original turing machine then? :) |
| 12:34.27 | Grum | my memory is infinite .. i just cant access it all on demand ;( |
| 12:34.29 | Mecdemort | whats the normal chat log's buffer size? |
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| 12:39.11 | CIA-22 | 03fenlis * r45289 10CowTip/ (8 files in 8 dirs): |
| 12:39.11 | CIA-22 | CowTip : |
| 12:39.11 | CIA-22 | <PROTECTED> |
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| 12:40.35 | CIA-22 | 03hedin * r45290 10WF3sec/ (. WF3sec.toc core.lua meleeframe.xml txt.txt): |
| 12:40.35 | CIA-22 | WF3sec: initial commit |
| 12:40.35 | CIA-22 | - Shows WindFury cooldown, usefull DPS buff cooldows and Melee stats for Enhace,ent Shamans |
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| 12:41.05 | Qaarh | anyone know of an addon to give me the coords for a frame on the screen? |
| 12:41.36 | Diao | vizor |
| 12:41.41 | Diao | should be able to do it |
| 12:42.22 | Qaarh | I'll try that then. Thanks:) |
| 12:42.25 | Mecdemort | wow i cant believe i overlooked this |
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| 12:46.15 | Mecdemort | how configurable is this swl? |
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| 12:50.22 | Health | Vi va på grönan igår! |
| 12:51.41 | Demetrious | Health: Sure thing. Bless you! |
| 12:52.47 | Health | :( |
| 12:55.33 | CIA-22 | 03hedin * r45291 10WF3sec/txt.txt: WF3sec: Delete trash |
| 12:55.46 | Demetrious | Health: What's wrong? Prosit then? |
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| 12:59.16 | Amadeo | damn, I knew I forgot something...brb :P |
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| 13:10.15 | Pkekyo|cookieplz | is 5/5 cruelty really needed in a deep prot specc? |
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| 13:11.12 | ||sammoth | hi, do u need ace to d/l ace2? |
| 13:11.38 | Pkekyo|cookieplz | to download it? |
| 13:11.42 | abbat_w | nope |
| 13:11.43 | Pkekyo|cookieplz | wouldn't think so |
| 13:11.45 | ||sammoth | to use it.. |
| 13:11.55 | ||sammoth | sorry.. do u need ace to use ace2? |
| 13:11.59 | abbat_w | no |
| 13:12.07 | Pkekyo|cookieplz | most addons allready ahve embedded libaries |
| 13:12.12 | ||sammoth | so i can just d/l ace2? |
| 13:12.17 | abbat_w | yep |
| 13:12.36 | evl | Pkekyo|cookieplz: 1. armory europe 2. Search: Kungen 3. Copy 4. Profit |
| 13:12.40 | Ominous | you dont need to dl ace2 though |
| 13:12.43 | ||sammoth | i had tons of errors popping up after i used wowaceupdater, s |
| 13:12.44 | CIA-22 | 03jerry * r45292 10Links/Links.lua: |
| 13:12.44 | CIA-22 | Links: |
| 13:12.44 | CIA-22 | _ Default showicon to false. |
| 13:12.44 | CIA-22 | _ Removed unnecessary code. Please avoid copy-pasting other's code in my addon. At least try to respect the coding style. |
| 13:12.44 | CIA-22 | _ Please consider asking me before including a new feature to my addon. After all, I have to support it now. |
| 13:12.57 | abbat_w | who is kungen? |
| 13:14.17 | Dustwhisper| | kungen is the maintank of nihilum |
| 13:14.23 | abbat_w | ah |
| 13:15.04 | ||sammoth | hey, if i wanna use bartender3, do i just need ace2 and fubar installed? |
| 13:15.11 | mikma | no |
| 13:15.17 | mikma | you need bartender3 installed |
| 13:15.20 | xlvii | i'm going to bed kids -- night all. |
| 13:15.35 | ||sammoth | just bartender3? |
| 13:16.02 | abbat_w | hehe, mikma! ;) |
| 13:16.41 | Pkekyo|cookieplz | evl: o'rly? |
| 13:16.51 | mikma | just bartender3. |
| 13:16.57 | ||sammoth | thanks |
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| 13:17.59 | evl | Pkekyo|cookieplz: yeah, prot specs are pretty much universal :) |
| 13:18.02 | Pkekyo|cookieplz | evl: kungen from nihilum? |
| 13:18.16 | evl | yeah, I suspect he knows a thing or two about prot specs |
| 13:18.38 | evl | or just grab another MT spec from some high level guild, saves some time theorycrafting the fillers |
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| 13:20.30 | Qaarh | erm... can I find out the frame names in some way, for example on mouseover? Visor2 doesn't seem to have a way to see.. |
| 13:20.46 | Dustwhisper| | GetMouseFocus():GetName() |
| 13:21.05 | Qaarh | oh, thanks :) |
| 13:24.39 | Pkekyo|cookieplz | evl: the thing is....should I really bother with 5/5 cruelty or not? it seems like such a waste |
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| 13:25.33 | Dustwhisper| | Is there anyway to clip child objects to a parent object? |
| 13:25.50 | Dustwhisper| | i wanna crate a window with a scrollbar that scrolls textures/objects within that frame but nothing shows outside it |
| 13:25.53 | evl | Pkekyo|cookieplz: well crit = threat |
| 13:26.03 | Dustwhisper| | can i just use a SCrollFrame and use that as parent and everything will clip within it ? |
| 13:28.27 | NM|Xinhuan | you have to set the stuff inside the scrollchild |
| 13:28.36 | NM|Xinhuan | scrollframe:setscrollchild() |
| 13:29.57 | NM|Xinhuan | and the scrollframe's size will determine the display area for clipping |
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| 13:42.20 | Amadeo | This is pretty wild, it looks like Dodge is offering a lifetime powertrain warranty on their new cars now |
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| 13:42.47 | CIA-22 | ShoutReminder: |
| 13:42.47 | CIA-22 | - remove custom frametime, set constant to every frame |
| 13:42.47 | CIA-22 | - fix misaligned vertical bar growth |
| 13:51.07 | Qaarh | Hrm, receiving some errors with Grid here.. GridSideIndicators\GridSideIndicators.lua:64 attempt to index local 'color' (a nil value) |
| 13:52.03 | Qaarh | called from CastCommLib, it seems |
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| 14:03.42 | Grum | lol no i wonder what the bug wit Tauren warriors was O.o ;D |
| 14:07.33 | Neebler | blaarrrgh |
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| 14:12.10 | Bruners | anyone here with good irssi skills ? |
| 14:13.15 | xt | Why would you ask such a question instead of just asking your question |
| 14:14.03 | Bruners | the usual :P |
| 14:14.17 | Bruners | anyhow, why wont "/network add -autosendcmd "/^msg NickServ IDENTIFY password" network" work ? |
| 14:15.03 | xt | I configure stuff like that in my ~/.irss/config |
| 14:15.35 | Bruners | tried that aswell |
| 14:16.25 | xt | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:16.28 | xt | works for me |
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| 14:18.03 | JY|Screen | maybe try changing the order of the arguments, had problems with this once |
| 14:19.48 | Bruners | ok ,for some reason it just started working |
| 14:26.05 | NM|Xinhuan | at Vashj, if you're a mage and you're holding a tainted core, can you Blink with it? |
| 14:26.37 | Dustwhisper| | never tried |
| 14:26.47 | Dustwhisper| | ill test tonight |
| 14:26.51 | Dustwhisper| | hopefully she'll die tonight |
| 14:26.52 | NM|Xinhuan | that's what everyone says when i ask :( |
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| 14:32.22 | CIA-22 | Aloft |
| 14:32.22 | CIA-22 | - Small optimization change |
| 14:33.30 | mitch0 | grum: interact ranges and spell ranges work a bit differently, and for taurens either the spell ranges are larger than normal, or interact ranges smaller, but in any case it fsckd up the ordering of the range checkers resulting in funny range displays |
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| 14:34.07 | CIA-22 | Assessment |
| 14:34.07 | CIA-22 | - Some changes for optimization to BarInterface |
| 14:34.07 | CIA-22 | - Changed storage logic for death log stuff |
| 14:34.18 | mitch0 | now I decided to take the spell ranges "real" and adjust interact ranges according to those |
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| 14:40.32 | jme | oops... i clearly clicked positive vote for a wowhead comment and it downvoted it |
| 14:40.40 | jme | fail |
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| 14:57.04 | mitch0 | jme: register 2 new accounts and correct the mistake :) |
| 14:57.13 | jme | mitch0: :P |
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| 15:01.48 | NM|Xinhuan | i'm not registered Dustwhisper| so i can't send PMs ;p |
| 15:02.19 | Dustwhisper| | ah |
| 15:02.57 | Dustwhisper| | Sorry was just trying to figure out this scrollframe or how Im gonna do this, I want to draw loads of rectangles horisontally and be able to scroll it to see only sections of it and have it clipped by the frame it's inn |
| 15:03.06 | Dustwhisper| | like a timeline you can see say 10% of at a time and scroll between |
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| 15:03.28 | NM|Xinhuan | hmm |
| 15:03.44 | Grum | that will be a load of custom code so it smells ;D |
| 15:04.00 | Dustwhisper| | so |
| 15:04.08 | Dustwhisper| | I'd have to actually calculate all the drawing within the fram e? |
| 15:04.09 | Dustwhisper| | *frame |
| 15:04.17 | NM|Xinhuan | no, i dont think so |
| 15:04.50 | Grum | you can probably have some kind of 'panel' which you can scroll .. but that's just me babbling |
| 15:05.31 | NM|Xinhuan | basically, you set up a <ScrollFrame> with some width and height |
| 15:05.57 | NM|Xinhuan | then you have a single <Frame> that holds all the stuff you want to display at some arbitruary size |
| 15:06.16 | NM|Xinhuan | and then when you do a scrollframe:SetScrollChild(thatframe) |
| 15:06.33 | NM|Xinhuan | you only need to call ScrollFrame:UpdateScrollChildRect() to update the scrolling bars |
| 15:06.50 | NM|Xinhuan | the drawing area and clipping is all automatic |
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| 15:07.15 | NM|Xinhuan | get it? |
| 15:07.18 | Funkeh` | hi all |
| 15:07.20 | Dustwhisper| | yea |
| 15:07.24 | Dustwhisper| | so that frame i add to Scrollframe |
| 15:07.30 | Dustwhisper| | is what i use as the parent for everything i draw ? |
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| 15:07.53 | NM|Xinhuan | so your timeline and stuff will be in a single frame, at some huge size, you're drawing within this frame |
| 15:08.04 | Dustwhisper| | aye ok |
| 15:08.04 | NM|Xinhuan | which your'e setting as the scrollchild of the scrollframe |
| 15:08.18 | Dustwhisper| | by drawing does that mean i have to draw directly or i can do CreateFrame and use that childframe as the parent ? |
| 15:09.42 | NM|Xinhuan | ok lets have an example |
| 15:10.05 | NM|Xinhuan | abc = CreateFrame("ScrollFrame", "abc", UIParent, "UIPanelScrollFrameTemplate"); |
| 15:10.18 | NM|Xinhuan | that creates a scrollframe called "abc", you give this a width, height, etc |
| 15:10.54 | NM|Xinhuan | def = CreateFrame("Frame", "def", UIParent); // this creates the frame you want your stuff to display |
| 15:11.27 | NM|Xinhuan | so inside the "def" frame, you will have all the textures and fontstrings and other stuff you want to show |
| 15:11.46 | NM|Xinhuan | then you do a abc:SetScrollChild(def); |
| 15:11.51 | NM|Xinhuan | and that's it |
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| 15:12.15 | Dustwhisper| | oh that's hot |
| 15:12.17 | Dustwhisper| | thx ill try that |
| 15:12.45 | NM|Xinhuan | you will need to call abc:UpdateScrollChildRect(); |
| 15:12.50 | NM|Xinhuan | whenever you change stuff |
| 15:12.55 | NM|Xinhuan | to update the scrollbars |
| 15:13.01 | Dustwhisper| | aye but that's all good |
| 15:13.10 | Dustwhisper| | if that works as i hope it does, then it's woohoo |
| 15:13.32 | NM|Xinhuan | generally speaking the stuff inside the "def" frame would be fontstrings that are not bounded in size |
| 15:13.54 | NM|Xinhuan | so the fontstring would grow vertically as text acumulates in it |
| 15:14.37 | NM|Xinhuan | or horizontally, depending on the fontstring |
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| 15:15.22 | NM|Xinhuan | you should parent everything properly of course, make "abc" the parent of "def", and the fontstring's parents as "def" |
| 15:15.38 | NM|Xinhuan | then if you do scaling, everything scales |
| 15:15.47 | NM|Xinhuan | since scaling propergates through childframes |
| 15:15.51 | NM|Xinhuan | propagates |
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| 15:23.40 | NM|Xinhuan | oh if i remember correctly, that only does vertical scrolling - i don't think wow comes with anything that has horizontal scrolling |
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| 15:31.42 | Bruners | any reason why i get !!!StandaloneLibraries - Error During Update ? |
| 15:31.59 | Bruners | something i have missed ? :) |
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| 15:36.51 | Chompers | Bruners: you don't need !!!StandaloneLibraries |
| 15:36.57 | Chompers | delete it |
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| 15:39.28 | CIA-22 | 03ammo * r45303 10WitchHunt/ (WitchHunt.lua WitchHunt.toc embeds.xml libs/): WitchHunt: switch to parser-3.0 and add 'fade' messages. |
| 15:41.36 | Proph | any reason why i get Tattle - Error During Update ? |
| 15:41.44 | Bruners | deleting manually and installing it again fixed that one |
| 15:42.12 | Proph | thx |
| 15:42.13 | Bruners | the "!!!StandaloneLibraries - Error During Update" one.. |
| 15:43.24 | kenlyric | people still use SAL? |
| 15:43.42 | kenlyric | that thing really should be removed. |
| 15:44.04 | Gandharva | Antiarc are you here? |
| 15:44.09 | Bruners | kenlyric: why ? |
| 15:44.50 | Chompers | no need for !sal |
| 15:45.56 | Bruners | please give a more thorough explanation |
| 15:46.11 | Gandharva | Antiarc: I have a possible alignment fix for Omens columns. It's not elegant, but it looks nice ingame :) -> http://ace.pastey.net/71589 |
| 15:46.35 | CIA-22 | 03jerry * r45304 10ItemBonusLib/ItemBonusLib-1.0/ItemBonusLib-1.0.lua: ItemBonusLib: added special code to handle rating patterns. parses every type of rating in game for enUS. |
| 15:47.28 | striper | mornin |
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| 15:48.15 | striper | can someone please give me a really short explanation why Recount has SWStats as an optional dependency? |
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| 15:49.14 | kenlyric | Bruners: mods should indicate their required libraries. |
| 15:49.39 | kenlyric | and update tools should retreive those libraries when retreiving mods without embedded libs. |
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| 15:50.08 | kenlyric | !SAL was always a hack for the proper method anyway. |
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| 15:50.09 | striper | Recount should also list GraphLib in it's X-Embeds... it's reporting errors when it's not there |
| 15:50.11 | CIA-22 | 03roartindon * r45305 10Assessment/Modules/ (BarInterface.lua Deaths.lua): |
| 15:50.11 | CIA-22 | Assessment |
| 15:50.11 | CIA-22 | - Deaths events log progress. |
| 15:50.15 | Bruners | kenlyric: just found out that WAU1.9 does that |
| 15:51.25 | Bruners | kenlyric: thanks anyway for the clear-up |
| 15:51.40 | Gandharva | ~seen Antiarc |
| 15:52.01 | purl | antiarc is currently on #wowi-lounge #wowace. Has said a total of 13 messages. Is idling for 10h 27m 38s, last said: 'If your measurement window is short enough'. |
| 15:53.04 | art3mis | bahahaha paris' grandfather removed her from his will and is donation 2.4billion to charity |
| 15:53.11 | art3mis | thats awesome |
| 15:53.21 | striper | woot |
| 15:53.30 | Bruners | art3mis: its not like she's getting poor because of that |
| 15:53.51 | art3mis | nope but it still makesme happy that someone in that familystill retains sense |
| 15:54.11 | Bruners | is that even confirmed ? |
| 15:54.17 | art3mis | yup |
| 15:54.44 | Bruners | read it on wwtdd earlyer |
| 15:55.12 | art3mis | http://www.news.com.au/story/0,23599,22157708-2,00.html |
| 15:55.14 | Antiarc|Work | Gandharva: *wave* |
| 15:55.37 | art3mis | the best part of the article is that he's selling the company and giving all the money to charity |
| 15:55.41 | art3mis | that makes me giggle |
| 15:57.04 | Cryect | thats good |
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| 15:59.41 | DarkImakuni | zomg CowTip pwns |
| 16:00.13 | art3mis | is it amoozing or fantamoolus |
| 16:00.24 | Chompers | perhaps both? |
| 16:00.28 | art3mis | GASP! |
| 16:00.37 | art3mis | both?!?! are you crazy man?! |
| 16:00.38 | fireglow | cowtip is great for its options but tinytip has the better layout imho |
| 16:00.41 | Bruners | is it alot better than tinytip ? |
| 16:00.42 | Chompers | i may be |
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| 16:00.59 | art3mis | aftte > * |
| 16:01.02 | Chompers | but cowtip can have any type of layout ? |
| 16:01.11 | Amadeo | I have to agree with fireglow |
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| 16:01.19 | Amadeo | CowTip gets big, listing downwards |
| 16:01.22 | Amadeo | wall of text |
| 16:01.23 | Chompers | the default layout is pretty bad, but with a little work it can look amazing |
| 16:01.27 | fireglow | Chompers: default-wise :P |
| 16:01.35 | Amadeo | Chompers: Lemme see yours, I'd love to see a good layout |
| 16:01.43 | fireglow | yes yes please |
| 16:01.53 | Kaelten|Work | g'morning |
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| 16:01.56 | kovi | you can make cowtip look exactly like tinytip :s |
| 16:02.04 | Amadeo | Can you? |
| 16:02.05 | DarkImakuni | morning Kaelten :) |
| 16:02.09 | Chompers | http://homepage.ntlworld.com/jonreid/wow/cowtip.png |
| 16:02.10 | Amadeo | I didn't think you could put two things on one line |
| 16:02.31 | Amadeo | hm, so you can |
| 16:02.36 | fireglow | thats a lot better, yes |
| 16:03.02 | Kaelten|Work | I'm trying to avoid the Wall of Text Syndrome in KCI |
| 16:03.09 | Amadeo | haha |
| 16:03.16 | Amadeo | heya Kaelten |
| 16:03.17 | Kaelten|Work | Oh, who's going to blizzcon? |
| 16:03.22 | Gandharva | Antiarc|Work: Can I commit it? But I think it will only work fully when Omens saved variables are deleted. |
| 16:03.26 | fireglow | Kaelten|Work: whats KCI? |
| 16:03.33 | Amadeo | Kaelten|Work: I'll go with you, thank you for asking :P |
| 16:03.33 | Kaelten|Work | KC_Items |
| 16:03.38 | Kaelten|Work | Amadeo :P |
| 16:03.40 | fireglow | ah right |
| 16:03.46 | Kaelten|Work | oh and anyone seen Neriak around lately? |
| 16:03.50 | Kaelten|Work | ~seen Neriak |
| 16:03.51 | purl | neriak <n=Neriak@dslb-084-059-060-173.pools.arcor-ip.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 203d 14h 24m 23s ago, saying: 'nn, guys'. |
| 16:03.56 | Amadeo | Last time I saw Neriak was in EverQuest |
| 16:03.59 | fireglow | Chompers: so, how to get cowtip to look like on the screenshot? |
| 16:04.03 | Kaelten|Work | hrm |
| 16:04.05 | Antiarc|Work | Gandharva: I'm not entirely happy with just the leading spaces as a solution. I just need to get in there and adjust the layout method. |
| 16:04.14 | Amadeo | Kaelten|Work: That's a joke, since Neriak is a town in EverQuest :P |
| 16:04.22 | Bruners | i wish i could go to blizzcon |
| 16:04.28 | Antiarc|Work | http://img529.imageshack.us/img529/3215/rogueui5qi0.jpg <-- my CowTip screenshot |
| 16:04.31 | Undine | hmm, can't enable/disable rules in AI :( |
| 16:04.34 | Gandharva | Antiarc|Work: As I said, it's not elegant. But it works :) |
| 16:04.38 | Kaelten|Work | I'm going to have to fork (at least at first) Fence to get it tto do what I want it to do. |
| 16:05.02 | Amadeo | Antiarc|Work: that's incredibly sexy |
| 16:05.06 | Amadeo | Antiarc|Work: I want it |
| 16:05.12 | Kaelten|Work | I can try to merge it back in after the fact |
| 16:06.01 | Gandharva | Kaelten|Work: I think he wrote somithing about quitting wow in the forums. |
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| 16:06.22 | Kaelten|Work | ah |
| 16:06.29 | Kaelten|Work | I didn't catch that |
| 16:07.07 | Kaelten|Work | ya, so either I'm going to end up taking fence over and bastardizing it to my whims or just forking it then and push all the compatabile changes back in. |
| 16:08.59 | Xuerian | Antiarc: Sharezy! |
| 16:09.11 | Xuerian | Antiarc|Work: Geiv. >.< |
| 16:09.20 | Antiarc|Work | I don't have the rules on hand :( |
| 16:09.55 | Amadeo | Break the rules! |
| 16:10.04 | Xuerian | Antiarc|Work: Vertical health bars though? Didn't know it could do that >.> |
| 16:10.08 | Antiarc|Work | Yeah, it can |
| 16:10.34 | Xuerian | Nifty |
| 16:11.23 | Kyahx | only to find...mountains of porn instead of saved variables! |
| 16:11.35 | Chompers | man porn? |
| 16:11.37 | art3mis | anti has a honey pot system |
| 16:11.39 | DarkImakuni | holy cow! |
| 16:11.53 | art3mis | the computer connected is just porn porn porn and moreporn |
| 16:12.10 | art3mis | and when the hacker gets distracted they run a trace and sterlize him ;P |
| 16:12.17 | dodgizzla | Did somebody say pornß |
| 16:12.24 | art3mis | boobies \0/ |
| 16:12.30 | dodgizzla | \o/ |
| 16:12.36 | ccKep | functions in tables don't get saved to savedvariables, right? |
| 16:12.38 | Bruners | to install full cartographer, do i still use package_cartographer ? |
| 16:12.45 | Kyahx | ccKep: I don't believe so |
| 16:12.50 | ccKep | meh |
| 16:13.18 | blay | is there an option in ag-unitframes to show that ur flagged for pvp? |
| 16:13.30 | Kyahx | there are some tricks you can do to save functions if you need dynamic code for some reason |
| 16:14.11 | ccKep | atm I'm just replicating the objects using the data in savedvars |
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| 16:21.08 | Gandharva | Antiarc|Work: when can we expect Threat 1.0 RC1? My guild still refuses to use it while it's beta -.- |
| 16:21.48 | Silviu- | It is rc1 |
| 16:21.49 | Silviu- | ;) |
| 16:22.04 | Antiarc|Work | I've committed and tagged RC1 ;) |
| 16:22.15 | Gngsk | zomgwowowy |
| 16:22.22 | Gandharva | Woot! When? |
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| 16:23.54 | Antiarc|Work | A few days ago. |
| 16:23.54 | Gandharva | Gandharva: And where can it be loaded? Only here on wowace.com? |
| 16:23.58 | deltron | anyone know what causes this? http://ace.pastey.net/71590 |
| 16:24.00 | Antiarc|Work | Only on wowace at the moment, yes. |
| 16:24.20 | Antiarc|Work | deltron: You mean which addon? |
| 16:24.42 | Antiarc|Work | deltron: Or the error itself? |
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| 16:24.58 | Antiarc|Work | The error is because it's trying to hook MovePanelToCenter, but MovePanelToCenter doesn't exist |
| 16:25.07 | Gandharva | deltron: http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=5220.msg103169#msg103169 |
| 16:25.16 | Bruners | what alternatives is there to fubar? |
| 16:25.33 | Antiarc|Work | Titan, why? |
| 16:26.06 | Bruners | maby I'm asking the wrong question :) |
| 16:26.08 | Cryect | no fubar? |
| 16:26.24 | Kaelten|Work | hrm, why would anyone want to commit a Makefile to the repository? |
| 16:26.27 | Cryect | You mean what other ways can you present the same stuff? |
| 16:26.31 | Kemayo | Bruners: What do you want that's different from fubar? |
| 16:27.26 | Bruners | I've seen some screenshots of people having a small panel with basic info about latency/memory ++ |
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| 16:27.52 | Cryect | perfFu adds that info to fubar |
| 16:28.03 | Cryect | and you can make fubar into a small panel |
| 16:28.11 | Cryect | instead of a bar that stretches across a side |
| 16:28.17 | Bruners | it could be fubar they where using |
| 16:28.22 | Kemayo | It's entirely possible that those are just FuBar. As Cryect says, FuBar panels are very flexible. |
| 16:28.24 | Antiarc|Work | FuBar_PerformanceFu |
| 16:28.25 | Kyahx | no point in using FuBar if all you use it for is a preformance moniter and system tray for MM icons :P |
| 16:28.28 | Cryect | be helpful if you show example |
| 16:31.50 | Kaelten|Work | also fubar plugins can be ran as minimap icons if you're only using one or two of them |
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| 16:33.25 | Kyahx | I use a modified version of TidyMinimap + zStats |
| 16:33.30 | dn2k | hello |
| 16:33.31 | Kyahx | all I ever used fubar for anyways |
| 16:33.33 | Bruners | i have a gazillion of stuff on my fubar |
| 16:33.36 | Kyahx | was icons |
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| 16:35.52 | dn2k | i have a problem with omen, i cant see myself in aggro list and noone in raid can see me.. i've updated the plugin and deleted everything about omen in WTF directory but this doesn't help.. i use Linux with wine but i dont thik this can be the reason.. |
| 16:36.19 | Antiarc|Work | dn2k: Update all your ace mods, you probably have another addon with an older, buggy copy Threat embedded |
| 16:36.22 | Antiarc|Work | copy of* |
| 16:36.41 | dn2k | ok i will try it.. ty |
| 16:37.47 | Antiarc|Work | http://ulc.net/forum/uploads/monthly_07_2007/post-3919-1184860842.jpg |
| 16:38.57 | Amadeo | I thought it was going to be Altered Beast, by the title! |
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| 16:40.40 | Bruners | http://ui.ipwn.se/i/61.jpg what addon is those white stripes around the chat etc? |
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| 16:40.58 | Antiarc|Work | eepanels |
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| 16:43.17 | kaiden | Is there an alternate url for wishlists or are they just part of each addons wiki post on wowace? |
| 16:44.44 | Antiarc|Work | The forums and wiki are both good places for those |
| 16:46.11 | kaiden | what do you think the possibilities of convincing ckk to add a key modifier for showing tooltips for cowtip? :) |
| 16:46.23 | kaiden | +are at the end :p |
| 16:46.48 | Amadeo | cowtip? :) are |
| 16:46.57 | Amadeo | ;) |
| 16:48.59 | Antiarc|Work | Hey Parrot users, try the Action animation style in Parrot and lemme know what you think >_> |
| 16:49.10 | Silviu- | http://img68.imageshack.us/my.php?image=wowscrnshot073007194857nb4.jpg |
| 16:49.44 | Antiarc|Work | Silviu-: That would get my attention! :) |
| 16:49.51 | Silviu- | What ? ;) |
| 16:49.51 | Amadeo | hahah |
| 16:49.59 | kenlyric | action animation? |
| 16:50.03 | kenlyric | why does that make me think of Batman? |
| 16:50.17 | Bruners | Antiarc|Work: possible to get a screen of your line texts in cowtip ? |
| 16:50.26 | Antiarc|Work | Bruners: I don't have access to it at the moment :( |
| 16:50.46 | jme | is there anything for underwater breathing after you use all your nagrand cherries? |
| 16:50.56 | Proph | Silviu-: whats the mod that shows "paswarning passed 90 of malachiels threat |
| 16:51.07 | Antiarc|Work | Omen |
| 16:51.10 | jme | Proph: Omen |
| 16:51.22 | Antiarc|Work | jme: Besides water breathing potions and the Hydrocane? |
| 16:51.40 | jme | Antiarc|Work: guess i failed to wowhead that one =) |
| 16:51.41 | Silviu- | Proph omen |
| 16:51.55 | Proph | thx |
| 16:52.02 | Antiarc|Work | Rogues should be able to equip staves >:( |
| 16:52.09 | Antiarc|Work | Not being able to use a hydrocane is teh QQ |
| 16:52.23 | DarkImakuni | Antiarc|Work: http://www.wowhead.com/?item=10506 :) |
| 16:52.25 | Silviu- | Antiarc|Work u like my cowtip ? |
| 16:52.26 | Silviu- | ;) |
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| 16:52.40 | Antiarc|Work | Requires Engineering (230) |
| 16:52.50 | jme | Antiarc|Work: interesting, i should farm gnomer for that |
| 16:52.51 | Antiarc|Work | I just dropped engineering for herbing and I'm damn glad I did |
| 16:53.07 | jme | really? i dropped skinning and LW for mining and JC |
| 16:53.16 | art3mis | hippie |
| 16:53.21 | jme | yep |
| 16:53.44 | kenlyric | herbing is awesome. Don't leave home without it. |
| 16:53.51 | CIA-22 | 03athou * r45306 10FuBar_RaidBuffFu/ (FuBar_RaidBuffFu.lua localization.lua): |
| 16:53.51 | CIA-22 | FuBar_RaidBuffFu: |
| 16:53.51 | CIA-22 | - each buff now has an "always check" list |
| 16:54.18 | art3mis | hey anti |
| 16:54.27 | art3mis | i had a question about sanitybags |
| 16:54.46 | kenlyric | the question is "work on sanity again, won't you?" |
| 16:54.47 | NeoTron_ | I'm contemplating whether or not to keep engineering on my pally. on one hand the helmets are nice (being an alt I'm unlikely to get any tier 5 or better stuff, like the goggles, any time soon) |
| 16:54.52 | jme | so i know of like 7 rich thorium veins in winterspring now that always seem to be there |
| 16:54.55 | NeoTron_ | on the other hand, herbing / mining alt would be nice |
| 16:55.12 | jme | heh |
| 16:55.13 | Antiarc|Work | I'm making 100-200g/day selling herbs. |
| 16:55.17 | kenlyric | jme: everyone knows about the seven rich thorium in wintesrping. |
| 16:55.19 | Antiarc|Work | So uh, I'm not complaining. |
| 16:55.22 | jme | kenlyric: i know |
| 16:55.28 | jme | kenlyric: i just found out about them last night though :/ |
| 16:55.33 | art3mis | antiarc: how come when i make anew bag and leave a filter for "type:quest" in the filter winder it dumps ALL my new stuff into that window even if its not a quest item, and doesnt seem to care that its not a quest item? |
| 16:55.34 | kenlyric | it's the only sane way to hit 300. |
| 16:55.46 | Antiarc|Work | art3mis: Probably a bug :P |
| 16:55.51 | art3mis | ya think? |
| 16:55.53 | art3mis | ;) |
| 16:56.04 | jme | kenlyric: yeah, i'm at 282 now |
| 16:56.13 | kenlyric | antiarc got a new baby and abandoned his old baby. |
| 16:56.22 | NeoTron_ | kenlyric: I never had much luck mining in winterspring. Burning steppes and un'goro has always been better to me. ah well |
| 16:56.24 | art3mis | its understandable |
| 16:56.28 | Chompers | Baby-2.0 |
| 16:56.35 | kenlyric | burning steppes for rich thorium? |
| 16:56.35 | art3mis | now with more spitup? |
| 16:56.37 | kenlyric | egads. |
| 16:56.46 | kenlyric | I think I found two there once. |
| 16:56.47 | Chompers | now with less green poo |
| 16:56.50 | art3mis | i decided to go mining jc |
| 16:56.52 | jme | NeoTron_: ungoro is decent |
| 16:56.58 | DarkImakuni | lol |
| 16:56.59 | art3mis | since ive got a draino shammy |
| 16:57.03 | jme | i found a good bit of thorium there but they always seemed to be farmed |
| 16:57.07 | Silviu- | Antiarc|Work post me again your screen ? |
| 16:57.21 | Antiarc|Work | http://img529.imageshack.us/img529/3215/rogueui5qi0.jpg |
| 16:57.47 | Silviu- | ty |
| 16:58.05 | kenlyric | slow image is slow |
| 16:58.10 | jme | agreed |
| 16:58.22 | Silviu- | Antiarc|Work what minimap is that ? smm ? |
| 16:58.28 | art3mis | thats because anti doesnt believe in irfranview ;P |
| 16:58.30 | kenlyric | it's like porn over 14.4 |
| 16:58.34 | Antiarc|Work | smm, yes |
| 16:58.52 | kenlyric | who needs infranview? screenshots are jpg, yo. |
| 16:58.55 | Antiarc|Work | It's only 320k. |
| 16:58.55 | Silviu- | Hmm maybe i will remove my Squeenix and get smm |
| 16:58.56 | CIA-22 | 03cryect * r45307 10Recount/ (9 files): Recount - Can now change Title and Background colors in Config Options under Appearance |
| 16:58.57 | Undine | what's the tooltip mod? |
| 16:58.59 | Antiarc|Work | CowTip |
| 16:59.02 | DarkImakuni | they are? |
| 16:59.12 | kenlyric | yeah, it's not the picture size, it's the host server. |
| 16:59.20 | Silviu- | I need coords on minimap or foobar |
| 16:59.29 | Silviu- | So i can remove fubarlocationfu this way |
| 16:59.29 | Silviu- | ;) |
| 16:59.36 | art3mis | ricominimap |
| 16:59.43 | art3mis | co-ords overlayed |
| 17:01.10 | Silviu- | And i think is more "maintained" and more not so bloated as smm right art3mis ? |
| 17:01.18 | jme | Antiarc|Work: you play on a pve server? :( |
| 17:01.26 | Antiarc|Work | jme: Yeah, lolzrp, actually :P |
| 17:01.32 | jme | Antiarc|Work: :O |
| 17:01.44 | kenlyric | how do you RP mod development in AV? |
| 17:01.55 | Silviu- | art3mis from the screens on wowi looks nice |
| 17:01.57 | Antiarc|Work | Nobody really RPs except in Stormwind :P |
| 17:02.22 | Antiarc|Work | I'm not much of an RPer myself. My friends just ended up there, so I'm there. |
| 17:03.11 | jme | that's what happened to my brother, all of his friends are on a rp-pvp server (maelstrom), so he ended up there.. but nobody rp's |
| 17:03.12 | jme | he said they were in thrall's chamber and some RP guild was having a RP meeting, and they were all telling everyone on trade and general |
| 17:03.32 | *** join/#wowace shingo (n=shingo@p5487DD23.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 17:03.35 | jme | all of a sudden an alliance raid ran up in there and.. yeah |
| 17:03.48 | Antiarc|Work | RP servers seem to have a lower asshat ratio than other server, so I'm happy there. |
| 17:04.05 | Antiarc|Work | Except when PVP server goes down. Then all the asshats show up in droves. |
| 17:04.34 | kenlyric | yes, RP servers are the best entertainment when servers are down. |
| 17:04.45 | Amadeo | kenlyric: Meet me in the Tram at 8 |
| 17:05.02 | kenlyric | it's funny how angry the RPers get at the invasion. |
| 17:05.05 | kenlyric | I just go to watch |
| 17:05.08 | Kaelten|Work | ok guys I'm planning on taking down the svn later this afternoon |
| 17:05.15 | kenlyric | for good? hurrah! |
| 17:05.23 | Kaelten | no not for good :P |
| 17:05.24 | jme | heh |
| 17:05.30 | Kaelten | until DNS finishes resolving |
| 17:05.49 | Kaelten | I'm moving the files and svn to a new server |
| 17:05.58 | art3mis | silv: yeah rico rules |
| 17:06.09 | art3mis | im relaly happy with it so far, the layouts config etc |
| 17:06.41 | Amadeo | Antiarc|Work: I think asshat ratio on PvP servers is the highest :P |
| 17:07.01 | Amadeo | Everyone's so l33t on them, they're all the best in the game :P |
| 17:07.07 | kenlyric | Amadeo: for some definition of asshat. |
| 17:07.24 | Amadeo | Well, the highest is PTR |
| 17:07.32 | Amadeo | then PvP! |
| 17:07.40 | art3mis | i'd take asshat over emo's any day though |
| 17:07.41 | jme | i haven't even been able to log into the ptr since thursday or something |
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| 17:07.57 | art3mis | cant stand fucking highschool-ish servers with clicks of emo shitheads |
| 17:08.01 | kenlyric | I think you need to define asshat. |
| 17:08.10 | Amadeo | art3mis: That was Eredar :P |
| 17:08.13 | art3mis | "wahhh so and so doesnt like me i'm gonna sell my crap and quit!" |
| 17:08.22 | kenlyric | art3mis: that sounds like a pvp server to me. |
| 17:08.22 | art3mis | thats was the server that roar plays on ;P |
| 17:08.27 | kenlyric | emo 14 year old boys |
| 17:08.28 | Amadeo | hahah |
| 17:08.38 | Amadeo | Which Roar? |
| 17:08.49 | art3mis | aside frobeing the single most hated person on that server, it REALLY started to bug me so i transfered off it |
| 17:08.53 | art3mis | Raortinadon |
| 17:09.14 | art3mis | Silvermoon is a horrible cess pool of cliquey high school friends |
| 17:09.15 | Amadeo | hah, I had no idea |
| 17:09.36 | Silviu- | art3mis thank u for the info i will try it after raid ;) |
| 17:09.45 | kenlyric | art3mis: you mean "World of Warcraft" |
| 17:09.50 | art3mis | silv: not a prob, i like sharing groovy mods ;P |
| 17:09.54 | jme | kenlyric: hah |
| 17:09.59 | art3mis | ken:some servers arent as bad though |
| 17:10.03 | art3mis | but yeah |
| 17:10.12 | Silviu- | Now Kael`Thas fun :( |
| 17:10.17 | kenlyric | some servers have grownup guilds you can be in and hide from all the kiddies. |
| 17:10.18 | Silviu- | Aka wipes |
| 17:10.20 | art3mis | zuljin wasnt that bad, it just got "wierd" when tbc came out |
| 17:10.32 | jme | my guild is fairly mature |
| 17:10.45 | art3mis | all the grown up guilds became anal retentive whore guilds ;P |
| 17:10.52 | jme | most are adults with jobs and families, and we still manage to raid kara 4 times a week |
| 17:11.06 | Antiarc|Work | I enjoy my server, but my guild is people that I like and we're fairly xenophobic. We don't interact with the rest of the server much ;) |
| 17:11.22 | Gngsk | aucioneer and bulkmail tooltip do not play well together |
| 17:11.24 | art3mis | and echoes is still prone to emo-dom every once in a while |
| 17:11.44 | art3mis | then again im a jerk and like to have fun poking sticks at people |
| 17:12.05 | art3mis | so i'll never actually fit in anywhere thers more than 2 people that arent like me |
| 17:12.25 | art3mis | like here, i'd be fine in a guild with you all since yer all mostly jerks heh |
| 17:12.32 | kenlyric | it's the only real joy in life. |
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| 17:12.47 | Fin | being a jerk? |
| 17:12.49 | Yasuo | hi |
| 17:12.53 | art3mis | yes fin |
| 17:12.57 | kenlyric | poking sticks at people. |
| 17:12.59 | NeoTron_ | so felguard spec works great in karazhan, but sucks in tempest keep. esp bad on al'ar |
| 17:13.05 | Fin | pointed sticks! |
| 17:13.13 | Fin | also wanking |
| 17:13.26 | Fin | beer |
| 17:13.29 | Fin | that too |
| 17:13.29 | kenlyric | I love breaking fragile people. |
| 17:13.32 | art3mis | what amazes me most is the abilityof people to not tell the difference between "you're an ass!" and "you're an ass ;)" |
| 17:13.43 | kenlyric | i'm correcting a mistake their helicopter parents have made. |
| 17:13.46 | art3mis | to them they are both derogatory insults and should be cried about |
| 17:14.06 | Fin | generlaly I think that anyone who feels insulted by that, deserves to be insulted by that |
| 17:14.09 | Coruss | art3mis: first one = insult, second one = joke |
| 17:14.17 | Coruss | Fin: .agree |
| 17:14.20 | kenlyric | You will know fear. You will know pain. And then you will die. |
| 17:14.49 | Fin | who let kenlyric near the bottle of downers again |
| 17:14.50 | art3mis | coruss: yeah it seems pretty clear to me as well, but ive had GM's get pissy about coments like th on trade to people i know because it "makes the guild look bad" |
| 17:15.27 | Coruss | art3mis: GMs are disillusioned wannabes who thought they would get paid to play a game |
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| 17:15.37 | art3mis | of course me responding with "/g god did you wake up on the cranky side of the cage this morning? it's a joke, geezus" prolly doesnt help |
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| 17:16.10 | Coruss | unless of course I misunderstand GM to mean game master when you mean guild leader |
| 17:16.11 | Aenslaed | alot of people in my guild, myself included, greet our guild leader with a fat joke or a math joke. |
| 17:16.22 | art3mis | guildmaster |
| 17:16.27 | Coruss | ah |
| 17:16.28 | Aenslaed | derogatory joke that is |
| 17:16.42 | art3mis | thats because fat people deserve to be ridiculed ;P |
| 17:16.43 | Aenslaed | poor guy. Can't go anywhere without being reminded about his girth |
| 17:16.56 | art3mis | just call him Golobulous |
| 17:17.01 | CIA-22 | 03roartindon * r45309 10Assessment/Modules/ (Deaths.lua Healing.lua): |
| 17:17.01 | CIA-22 | Assessment |
| 17:17.01 | CIA-22 | - Now has a color type for death log lists and a segment display set definied for them |
| 17:17.13 | kenlyric | why do people know your guild leader is fat? |
| 17:17.14 | Fin | also gingers |
| 17:17.15 | art3mis | then you're making a fat joke, but its also a gi joe the movie joke so his nerdy side will take pleasure in it ;P |
| 17:17.28 | Coruss | they need a gym for fat folk, where they can feel at home, and once you work out enough to get thin, they send you to the 'other' gyms |
| 17:17.31 | Aenslaed | he's not like that |
| 17:17.43 | art3mis | like what? |
| 17:17.47 | art3mis | fat or nerdy? |
| 17:17.49 | Aenslaed | nerdy |
| 17:17.53 | art3mis | LIES! |
| 17:17.58 | Bruners | where can i find the orginal cowtip layout without reinstalling ?:) |
| 17:17.58 | art3mis | he's playing an online video game |
| 17:18.01 | kenlyric | he plays WoW |
| 17:18.01 | art3mis | and he's fat |
| 17:18.07 | kenlyric | EOD |
| 17:18.08 | art3mis | there is NO way he's NOT a nerd |
| 17:18.15 | Fin | gingers must be mocked also, don't forget the gingers |
| 17:18.21 | art3mis | and doesnt like comics heh |
| 17:18.24 | kenlyric | you leave the fucking gingers alone. |
| 17:18.27 | kenlyric | WE WILL END YOU |
| 17:19.19 | art3mis | inmy old guild we had this 14 yo kid who played a warlock |
| 17:19.30 | kenlyric | I'm so sorry. |
| 17:19.33 | Fin | it's amazing how little they deviate from the stereotype - honestly every one I know is a raging madperson |
| 17:19.33 | art3mis | he's adecent enough lock but his voice on vent is much casue for humor |
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| 17:19.43 | art3mis | we're all waiting for the snapping point |
| 17:19.46 | alext | we had an 11 year old hunter in my old guild |
| 17:19.51 | alext | that sounded like he was 24 |
| 17:19.56 | alext | and acted like he was 30 |
| 17:20.01 | art3mis | lies |
| 17:20.06 | art3mis | he was FBI |
| 17:20.10 | alext | nay unless they were very well crafted lies |
| 17:20.13 | Kaelten | when I was 13 people thought I was much older |
| 17:20.29 | alext | our guild leader lived down the street from him |
| 17:20.30 | kenlyric | Fin: I'm the calmest person you've ever met. |
| 17:20.32 | art3mis | kael: thats only because ofthe movies and the smokers voice ;P |
| 17:20.45 | kenlyric | Fin: though, that's because I supress my rage and channel it for the forces of justice. |
| 17:20.47 | Kaelten | :P |
| 17:20.55 | Kaelten | actually I've never smoked |
| 17:21.42 | art3mis | lies! |
| 17:21.56 | Kaelten | never done drugs either. |
| 17:21.58 | art3mis | the surgeon general reportssay you've smoked for at least18 years |
| 17:21.59 | Fin | kenlyric: yyyess... I think maybe that's actually *not* suppressing your rage |
| 17:22.07 | Kaelten | and I only drink on ocassion |
| 17:22.16 | art3mis | i did weed once when i was 22 and that was it |
| 17:22.19 | Funkeh` | i heard Kaelten is hot irl! |
| 17:22.24 | Kaelten | lol |
| 17:22.32 | Kaelten | you heard wrong. |
| 17:22.33 | kenlyric | Fin: yes, but it gives me the appearance of calm :) |
| 17:22.33 | Fin | who cares about rl |
| 17:22.40 | art3mis | made me flu sick for a week and i puked directly after the first toke |
| 17:22.43 | NightHawkTheSane | I only drink on occasion too. My favorite occasion to drink on is "being awake" |
| 17:22.52 | art3mis | oh |
| 17:22.56 | Funkeh` | i swa pics which backed up the statement also! |
| 17:22.57 | art3mis | i found the most yummy drink evah! |
| 17:23.00 | Fin | kenlyric: gingah! |
| 17:23.04 | Funkeh` | saw* |
| 17:23.05 | art3mis | disarano sours |
| 17:23.08 | art3mis | mmmmmm |
| 17:23.24 | art3mis | its like an alcoholic cherry limeaid fromsonic |
| 17:23.55 | kenlyric | you lost me at cherry. |
| 17:24.06 | kenlyric | fake cherry is the nastiest creation in creation. |
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| 17:24.22 | kenlyric | ever since I vomited those cherry cough drops. |
| 17:24.32 | art3mis | its not fake cherry |
| 17:24.40 | art3mis | it has real marishino cherrys in it |
| 17:24.45 | Fin | hey! I vomited cough drops once too! |
| 17:24.51 | art3mis | and amaretto is made from cherries ;P |
| 17:25.02 | Kaelten | almonds |
| 17:25.13 | art3mis | no cherries |
| 17:25.15 | art3mis | shhhhhhhh |
| 17:25.22 | Kaelten | er... almonds |
| 17:25.43 | art3mis | cherrywood bark heh |
| 17:26.02 | art3mis | its still really yummy |
| 17:26.49 | Amadeo | your mom's got a fake cherry |
| 17:27.00 | art3mis | yeah |
| 17:27.05 | Kaelten | thats called vaginaplasty (sp) |
| 17:27.06 | durcyn | you people come up with some of the most random bullshit. |
| 17:27.07 | art3mis | its a selling feature though |
| 17:27.15 | Amadeo | haha |
| 17:27.18 | art3mis | thanks dur |
| 17:27.27 | Fin | you said vagina |
| 17:27.34 | art3mis | thats what happens whne you get mre than one eliza and dr.sbaitso talking ;P |
| 17:28.06 | Fin | vaginas? |
| 17:28.13 | art3mis | vaginii |
| 17:28.16 | art3mis | more than one |
| 17:28.22 | Fin | course, yeah, sorry |
| 17:29.14 | Amadeo | What's the best PC headset available? |
| 17:29.25 | NightHawkTheSane | I like how you went from alacohol to vaginas in 30 lines. |
| 17:29.38 | Amadeo | NightHawkTheSane: That's what alcohol does to you |
| 17:29.46 | NightHawkTheSane | Amadeo: indeed. |
| 17:29.56 | NightHawkTheSane | never seems to work for me, though. >.> |
| 17:30.06 | Amadeo | try the other way around |
| 17:31.07 | Amadeo | or use the ultimate pickup line |
| 17:32.24 | art3mis | no such thing |
| 17:32.30 | Amadeo | Yes! It works every time |
| 17:32.33 | CIA-22 | 03roartindon * r45310 10Assessment/Modules/Deaths.lua: |
| 17:32.33 | CIA-22 | Assessment |
| 17:32.33 | CIA-22 | - Narrowed down the text options. |
| 17:32.48 | Amadeo | It's the only proven pickup line ever |
| 17:32.49 | art3mis | to the speakers i mean |
| 17:32.59 | art3mis | the best pickup line is still nice shoes wanna fuck? |
| 17:33.02 | Amadeo | no! |
| 17:33.07 | Kaelten | Go up to a girl and say "Pardon me, do you know how much a polar bear weighs" Wait for her to say something "Enough to break the ice, hi my name is <insert name here> whats yours" as you stick your hand out to shake her hand |
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| 17:33.19 | art3mis | wow |
| 17:33.21 | art3mis | just wow |
| 17:33.29 | art3mis | c'est fromage |
| 17:33.36 | Kaelten | chese? |
| 17:33.38 | Kaelten | cheese? |
| 17:33.40 | Amadeo | Hey, does this rag smell like chloroform to you? |
| 17:33.42 | jme | yes' |
| 17:33.43 | jme | -' |
| 17:33.47 | Undine | pah, poor folloow through |
| 17:33.48 | art3mis | hehe yeah that ones awesome too ama |
| 17:33.49 | jme | err |
| 17:33.52 | jme | that was to Kaelten |
| 17:34.02 | Amadeo | you could combine it with the shoes one |
| 17:34.11 | Amadeo | Nice shoes, does this rag smell like chloroform to you? |
| 17:34.14 | Amadeo | haha |
| 17:34.15 | Fin | Amadeo: my Sennheiser headset *rules* |
| 17:34.22 | Amadeo | which? |
| 17:34.28 | jme | the really expensive one? |
| 17:34.37 | Fin | it was very expensive but it's really sturdy, the mic is great, and the sound is just awesome |
| 17:34.49 | jme | hmm |
| 17:34.51 | Fin | I never realised how much difference a quality headset can make |
| 17:34.54 | Amadeo | Fin: You gonna buy me one? |
| 17:35.03 | jme | Fin: link plox |
| 17:35.32 | Fin | http://www.alza.cz/sluchatka-s-mikrofonem-sennheiser-pc-151-d72955.htm |
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| 17:35.52 | Fin | also: http://prague.tv/exchange-rates/ |
| 17:36.44 | Kaelten | sennheiser and Logitech are pretty good |
| 17:37.45 | Amadeo | My headset now is a Plantronics DSP-500...excellent voice quality, horrible construction |
| 17:38.00 | Fin | is that a USB headset? |
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| 17:38.12 | Amadeo | yeah, with in-line DSP |
| 17:38.17 | Amadeo | it's falling apart, but still works |
| 17:38.19 | Fin | oh yeah, I bought one of those |
| 17:38.23 | Fin | I sat on it and it broke |
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| 17:38.26 | Amadeo | haha |
| 17:38.28 | Fin | piece of shit |
| 17:38.30 | Amadeo | they are |
| 17:38.34 | vithos | i've never had a headset that could compare to a good pair of headphones |
| 17:38.35 | Amadeo | my ear pieces are falling off |
| 17:38.42 | Amadeo | vithos: They can't, taht's the thing :( |
| 17:38.43 | Fin | btw, these headphones are nice and light, but not too small |
| 17:38.46 | jme | hm |
| 17:38.53 | jme | the pc 151 is around $40 US |
| 17:39.03 | vithos | i use a pair of sennheiser hd580's and an audiotechnica vocal mic |
| 17:39.04 | jme | not too bad, i've seen $200 US sennheiser headsets |
| 17:39.06 | Fin | also they have a really long lead, but with this nifty thing for shortening it and stuff |
| 17:39.19 | Amadeo | vithos: What's the mic look like, not a clip on the shirt kinda thing, is it? |
| 17:39.34 | Fin | they're not top of the line of course, just way better than the bog standard cheapo ones |
| 17:39.46 | Fin | made by a company that know what they're doing |
| 17:40.12 | vithos | Amadeo: the kind you'd hold in your hand or put in a mic stand, but i just use a little plastic widget that came with it to prop it up on the desk |
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| 17:40.21 | Amadeo | vithos: ahh, I see |
| 17:40.27 | Amadeo | brb ;) |
| 17:43.02 | charon | is there an ace addon that can countdown other people's banishes? i've tried Antagonist but it doesn't seem to cover debuffs, and i have chronometer but it doesn't handle other raid members |
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| 17:46.24 | Fin | could anybody give me any hints on: how do I make a frame respond to having another frame dragged on top of it? |
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| 17:46.34 | Gngsk | MentalPower, ping |
| 17:47.01 | Antiarc|Work | Fin: OnDragStart, OnDragReceive |
| 17:47.14 | MentalPower|Food | Gngsk: not now, bbl |
| 17:47.35 | Antiarc|Work | And frame:RegisterForDrag |
| 17:47.40 | Fin | Antiarc|Work: thank you *very* much, exactly the hints I was looking for |
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| 17:48.29 | Fin | Antiarc|Work: I think it might be something other than OnDragReceive |
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| 17:48.49 | Antiarc|Work | OnReceiveDrag |
| 17:48.50 | Antiarc|Work | Sorry |
| 17:48.55 | Fin | ah, thanks |
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| 17:50.16 | jme | so like, i almost solod Teremus in the blasted lands last night, and would've if a rogue hadn't jumped in and tagged him first and helped |
| 17:50.26 | jme | at least he gave me the boe lewt |
| 17:54.07 | Gngsk | what class? |
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| 17:54.22 | dodgizzla | druid 100% :p |
| 17:54.36 | Gngsk | ofc |
| 17:54.59 | dodgizzla | I hate those shapeshiftin' 20k mangle crit bastards :P |
| 17:55.52 | Gngsk | here, here |
| 17:57.23 | CIA-22 | 03arith * r45311 10AtlasLoot_RepFactions/rep.tw.lua: |
| 17:57.23 | CIA-22 | AtlasLoot_RepFactions: |
| 17:57.23 | CIA-22 | - fixed Warden's Arrow itemid |
| 18:00.21 | Antiarc|Work | Holy craps! |
| 18:00.22 | Antiarc|Work | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m7Jh1BV1EOc&mode=related&search= |
| 18:00.26 | Antiarc|Work | Check out that guy's fingerwork! |
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| 18:06.35 | fireglow | i like http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=owAj5LiXG5w more :> |
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| 18:07.41 | hypetech | why does the "cleanup saved variables" in WAU do? |
| 18:08.05 | Elkano | why not? |
| 18:08.08 | hypetech | shit |
| 18:08.09 | hypetech | what* |
| 18:08.10 | hypetech | lol |
| 18:09.07 | Elkano | it will most likely delete (unused) saved variable files from the WTF directory |
| 18:09.24 | Funkeh` | thats just a guess maybe you should try it |
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| 18:14.46 | Hjalte | ckknight, what was the dogtag for showing the numbers of group members targeting the target? |
| 18:15.13 | dodgizzla | NumTargetting |
| 18:16.34 | Fin | [20:16:30] < hypetech> why does the "cleanup saved variables" in WAU do? |
| 18:16.36 | Hjalte | It's not possible to have the name or class composition of the targeters like in tinytip in cowtip atm, is it? |
| 18:16.52 | Fin | removes files in SavedVariables folders that don't match any of the installed addons |
| 18:18.39 | alext | Fin: would that include non-ace addons? |
| 18:18.47 | alext | so would it remove like necrosis.lua |
| 18:18.48 | Ominous_ | no |
| 18:18.52 | alext | ah sweet |
| 18:19.00 | alext | I am guessing it compares folder name with lua name then? |
| 18:19.10 | ckknight | Antiarc|Work: reaffirms my belief that Asians aren't real people. they're robots with yellowy skin |
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| 18:21.16 | art3mis | aliens |
| 18:21.52 | Fin | alext: not at this point in time |
| 18:22.07 | Fin | alext: oh! |
| 18:22.11 | Fin | alext: sorry, yes |
| 18:22.19 | Fin | I thought you were talking about something else entirely |
| 18:22.31 | alext | ah ok |
| 18:22.35 | alext | ;] |
| 18:22.37 | kenlyric | you mean like Data? |
| 18:22.42 | kenlyric | he was pretty swell. |
| 18:22.51 | Fin | alext: it searches for files in SavedVariables folders, compares them against the list of folders in Interface\AddOns\, and deletes ones that aren't listed (after making a backup) |
| 18:23.02 | alext | oh good |
| 18:23.06 | alext | I def need to do that |
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| 18:23.21 | fireglow | dont forget to backup :) |
| 18:23.23 | Fin | if an addon has a function MyAddon:Function(), how can I hook that function? |
| 18:23.23 | alext | got alot of lua files from old addons that i dont have anymore |
| 18:23.30 | Fin | oh I know |
| 18:23.36 | alext | fireglow: roger |
| 18:23.40 | V^ | Does Pitbull show Enemy Players accurate HP if I use MobHealth3? |
| 18:23.49 | V^ | Im using MobInfo2, and it only shows percentage |
| 18:24.07 | Josh_Borke | Fin: local origFunc = MyAddon.Function; MyAddon.Function = function(self, ...) origFunc(...); <do stuff> end |
| 18:24.12 | CIA-22 | 03cryect * r45312 10Recount/colors.lua: Recount - Fixes an issue with some lines not getting the correct color set |
| 18:24.16 | Fin | Josh_Borke: yep, that's exactly what I thought of :) |
| 18:24.22 | Fin | danke |
| 18:25.31 | Kemayo | Fin: If you're writing an Ace2 mod you can just use AceHook for it, too. |
| 18:25.37 | NeoTron_ | Cryect: so I have a feature request for recount - when ppl leave the raid I'd liek to have the option to still see their data :P |
| 18:25.58 | Cryect | Well... they are classified as ungrouped :-p |
| 18:26.09 | Cryect | I really should add a catergory WasGrouped |
| 18:26.35 | Kemayo | Fin: MyAddon:Hook(OtherAddon.Function, "Something"); function MyAddon:Something(object, ...) self.hooks[object].Function(object, ...) end |
| 18:26.47 | Cryect | Thats great somehow the change I made seemly vanished when I deleted some unrelated code |
| 18:27.35 | Fin | Kemayo: ah, yeah - I was just reading the docs on the wiki after you said that |
| 18:27.38 | Fin | :Hook("functionName" [, "handlerName" |
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| 18:27.49 | Cryect | Oh I bet its because of the order I'm clicking on things >_> |
| 18:27.51 | Fin | ^ HandlerName :) |
| 18:28.43 | Fin | I'm doing well at staying a teeny bit ahead of responses to questions I've asked tonight! |
| 18:29.41 | Kemayo | Fin: The handlername bit was probably unnecessary in my example. I just couldn't remember for sure that it would go to MyAddon:Function, so I went for the syntax I was certain would work. :) |
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| 18:30.54 | Fin | Kemayo: I always have to check that as well :) can never rememeber whether you have to call your function MyAddon:HookedMethod or MyAddon:HookedAddon_HookedMethod |
| 18:32.06 | Fin | when using AceHook, does your function get called before or after the existing function? |
| 18:32.34 | ckknight | depends on what you're doing |
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| 18:32.41 | ckknight | if you're doing a securehook, your function is called after |
| 18:32.46 | Fin | ckknight: just a normal hook |
| 18:32.53 | ckknight | if you're doing a normal hook, you specify where the original function is called. |
| 18:33.42 | Fin | I don't quite understand |
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| 18:34.27 | Fin | say I do (as in the example on the wiki), self:Hook('ChatFrame2', 'AddMessage') function MyAddon:AddMessage(frame, text, r, g, b, id) print('hi') end |
| 18:34.29 | kergoth | you call the original function from yours, it isnt automatically called |
| 18:35.03 | Fin | hum |
| 18:35.28 | Fin | that could explain a few things, then |
| 18:35.28 | kergoth | http://www.wowace.com/wiki/AceHook-2.1 |
| 18:35.29 | kergoth | read |
| 18:35.43 | kergoth | first bit of example code shows you, right at the top there |
| 18:35.54 | Fin | I'm reading it now |
| 18:35.59 | Fin | I was reading it before |
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| 18:36.54 | Fin | I just understood it differently - I assumed a function / method only finished being processed if it explicitly returns |
| 18:37.54 | kergoth | "explicitly returns" is a meaningless phrase, there's no difference from lua code between 'function () return nil end' and 'function() end' :P |
| 18:37.59 | kergoth | but i see what you meant :) |
| 18:39.10 | Josh_Borke | kergoth is a lamer :-P |
| 18:39.21 | Fin | it's meaningless if you know how hooking functions works, but then you wouldn't ask it if you knew that :) |
| 18:39.22 | kergoth | :P |
| 18:39.26 | Fin | :) |
| 18:39.28 | kergoth | hm? |
| 18:39.36 | Josh_Borke | kergoth: did you update LT from wowi? |
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| 18:40.12 | kergoth | the point is, you should have said that you assumed that returning nil or false as opposed to something true affected the call chain, that an "explicit" return is no different from an implicit one. |
| 18:40.28 | kergoth | Josh_Borke, not yet, should i? |
| 18:41.37 | Fin | you don't quite understand my misunderstanding |
| 18:43.11 | Josh_Borke | kergoth: up to you, it's just a released version is all, some as on my svn |
| 18:43.18 | Fin | I assumed that a function hooked to another function was automatically run before / after the existing function, without the calling of the existing function being affected - however if the user's function returned, that would uh stop the chain - like a break in a for loop or something |
| 18:43.27 | kergoth | the point is |
| 18:43.30 | kergoth | a function ALWAYS RETURNS |
| 18:43.36 | Fin | right! |
| 18:43.42 | kergoth | implicit vs explicit cannot be determined programmatically from within lua code |
| 18:43.46 | Josh_Borke | fin: a function returning is not the same thing as a return statement |
| 18:43.47 | Fin | right! |
| 18:43.57 | ckknight | actually, technically, return is different from return nil |
| 18:44.06 | kergoth | it is,. but it cannot be determined from within lua |
| 18:44.11 | ckknight | these two functions are equivalent: function() return end and function() end |
| 18:44.13 | kergoth | unles syou were to call something taht errors on "no value" and parse the pcall |
| 18:44.15 | Fin | so: "explicitly returns" is meaningless if you know how hooking functions works :) |
| 18:44.22 | ckknight | kergoth: it's quite possible |
| 18:44.32 | kergoth | no, explicitly returns is meaningless if you know anything about lua functions |
| 18:44.40 | Fin | return nil is set, yeah |
| 18:44.58 | kergoth | Josh_Borke, i'll stick to the svn, i dont mind bleeding |
| 18:45.11 | ckknight | local function f(...) return select('#', ...) end; function alpha() return end; function bravo() return nil end; assert(f(alpha()) == 0); assert(f(bravo()) == 1); |
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| 18:45.58 | kergoth | good point, didnt think about that |
| 18:46.03 | CIA-22 | 03oridan * r45313 10ShoutReminder/ShoutReminder.lua: |
| 18:46.03 | CIA-22 | ShoutReminder: |
| 18:46.03 | CIA-22 | - small bug fix (active preference wasn't persistent) |
| 18:46.29 | Fin | kergoth, the phrase "explicitly returns" was not meaningless to me - so, it wasn't meaningless. and I know something about lua functions, sorry. |
| 18:46.53 | kergoth | apparently you dont, if you assume that an explicit return is differetn from an implicit one from lua code's perspective. sorry. |
| 18:46.55 | Fin | I don't know everything, but I don't not know anything :) |
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| 18:47.33 | Fin | there's a difference..? |
| 18:48.05 | NM|Xinhuan | LUA supports tail calls too remember? ;p |
| 18:48.13 | NM|Xinhuan | so it doesn't exactly return |
| 18:48.19 | NM|Xinhuan | in those situations |
| 18:48.41 | kergoth | but that's not what he's saying, he keeps claiming that by some magic acehook would know whether or not he called 'return' |
| 18:48.43 | kergoth | nonsense |
| 18:48.47 | Fin | actually I think that's what I'm not describing very well about my original assumption |
| 18:48.48 | kergoth | you cannot possibly be this dense. |
| 18:48.55 | Josh_Borke | kergoth: oh but i can |
| 18:48.58 | Fin | kergoth, I'm not claiming anything. calm thyself. |
| 18:49.11 | Fin | I'm trying to explain what I originally misunderstood, that's all |
| 18:49.20 | NM|Xinhuan | i think perhaps you're just reading a bit too much into a perfectly normal english phrase ;p |
| 18:49.33 | ckknight | AceHook could, but chooses not to, as it would be more work than needed. |
| 18:50.01 | Fin | actually I thought it was part of how the game's API worked |
| 18:51.34 | Fin | eg, there's a function, it does something like send a message to the chat frame. the user can create a function called the same thing. then the game calls all the functions with the same name in sequence. if one of the functions returns (with the code "return <something>"), it's like a break in a for loop. I hope that's a better explanation. |
| 18:52.34 | jme | ~walloftext |
| 18:52.38 | kergoth | that makes more sense, now that you clarify that your return is _with a value_, not explicit. "return" with no value is just as explicit as returning with a value, and is just the same as not returning at all |
| 18:52.39 | Fin | boom! |
| 18:52.42 | kergoth | :P |
| 18:53.03 | Fin | kergoth: by "explicit", I meant just using the code "return", that's all |
| 18:53.40 | kergoth | and theres no difference between function() return end and function() end, so no, it couldnt tell whether you returned 'explicitly', at any rate, i'm a pendantic bastard sometimes, dont mind me |
| 18:54.06 | kergoth | anyone know a decent c/c++ callgraph generator? |
| 18:54.23 | Fin | hey that's cool, pedanticity is great |
| 18:54.58 | kergoth | nah, the only time its worth being pendantic, on irc, is if someone's statement would obviously be misunderstood and taken as fact by someone idling, imo |
| 18:55.03 | Fin | I don't want you to think I'm claiming anything though, I was only trying to say why I got something wrong :) |
| 18:55.17 | Fin | heh :) |
| 18:55.37 | Amadeo | What the hell, I was idle here, who is claiming all these facts! |
| 18:55.45 | kergoth | the sky is green! |
| 18:55.46 | Amadeo | ;) |
| 18:55.47 | kergoth | take that! |
| 18:56.34 | Fin | that's interesting to know about how Lua returns actually, because I recently came across a situation in PHP where I was a bit annoyed by the fact that a function with "return" is not the same as a function that just ends |
| 18:56.36 | Bruners | what episode of simpsons is it when homer joins a cult wich takes his hole house, at first they cant brake his mind. |
| 18:56.36 | Amadeo | Dirty Rogue move |
| 18:57.21 | kergoth | anyone have any hard numbers on swords vs fists vs daggers for a rogue? |
| 18:57.23 | Antiarc|Work | I suspect the difference is that "return nil" pops the function call/args and pushes a nil onto the stack, whereas just "return" pops the function/args |
| 18:57.24 | Amadeo | brb |
| 18:57.34 | Antiarc|Work | kergoth: EJ has about a billion hard numbers :P |
| 18:57.41 | kergoth | good point |
| 18:57.44 | Antiarc|Work | The short version is "combat swords is >>> * for PVE DPS" |
| 18:57.51 | kergoth | man, those spreadsheets are crazy |
| 18:57.56 | jme | Antiarc|Work: heh |
| 18:57.57 | kergoth | theorycrafters have too much time on their hands |
| 18:58.05 | jme | Antiarc|Work: dual weild spiteblades! |
| 18:58.06 | Antiarc|Work | For all intents and purposes, combat swords == daggers for sustained, but without the positional requirement |
| 18:58.09 | jme | wield |
| 18:58.13 | Antiarc|Work | jme: That'd be horrible for a combat rogue :P |
| 18:58.17 | Fin | kergoth: is that for levelling or end game? |
| 18:58.20 | jme | Antiarc|Work: :o |
| 18:58.26 | jme | Antiarc|Work: i know nosssssing |
| 18:58.28 | Antiarc|Work | Combat Potency requires a fast offhand |
| 18:58.42 | kergoth | my rogue's just starting in kara and couldnt decide on what to go with weapon wise long term |
| 18:58.58 | Antiarc|Work | Fists and swords are both good choices |
| 18:59.33 | Antiarc|Work | You've got the Ripper from Moroes, and Malchazeen from Prince. There's the BBW Paw, Fool's Bane, and Spiteblade, as well |
| 18:59.40 | Antiarc|Work | So you have choices no matter what spec you pick |
| 18:59.49 | jme | hunters get... legacy |
| 18:59.55 | jme | and sunfury |
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| 19:00.09 | NM|Xinhuan | isn't rogue T5 made for dagger rogues? |
| 19:00.10 | jme | and the BBW gun.. and the xbow |
| 19:00.15 | Bruners | spiteblade + paw = hunterloot :P |
| 19:00.19 | Antiarc|Work | NM|Xinhuan: Not particularly, no |
| 19:00.26 | jme | pfft |
| 19:00.37 | jme | actually, i would DW spiteblades if nobody else needed them |
| 19:00.44 | NM|Xinhuan | someone mentioned that having all crit and no hit on the T5 made it more a dagger set than a sword set |
| 19:00.48 | NM|Xinhuan | but i dont know if that is true |
| 19:00.52 | Antiarc|Work | That's not true |
| 19:01.26 | NM|Xinhuan | what about the (2) bonus |
| 19:01.27 | kergoth | daggers dont need hit any less than swords do, do they?, not for a combat build anyway |
| 19:01.39 | Antiarc|Work | +40 damage per combo point? That favors swords. |
| 19:02.12 | Antiarc|Work | No, daggers and swords need the same amount of hit for a combat rogue |
| 19:02.30 | NM|Xinhuan | "Your Evis and Envenom abilities cayse 40 extra damage per combo point" |
| 19:03.02 | Antiarc|Work | Yes. A combat dagger rogue will never get to use those. |
| 19:03.04 | NM|Xinhuan | well mage T5 is obviously made for Arcane spec |
| 19:03.11 | NM|Xinhuan | due to the set bonuses |
| 19:03.20 | NM|Xinhuan | appears that rogue T5 is made for swords |
| 19:03.35 | Antiarc|Work | Rogue T5 seems to be made for PVP, really, except without resilience. |
| 19:03.42 | CIA-22 | 03earthbane * r45314 10HellbenderDKP/ (. CostModifiers.lua HellbenderDKP.lua Locale-enUS.lua): |
| 19:03.42 | CIA-22 | HellbenderDKP: |
| 19:03.42 | CIA-22 | - Fleshed out some inline documentation for CostModifiers.lua |
| 19:03.42 | CIA-22 | - Added eligible class display for weapons |
| 19:03.42 | CIA-22 | - Enabled CTRA toggle |
| 19:03.43 | CIA-22 | - Added results cache for better performance |
| 19:03.45 | CIA-22 | - Increases Bacon Power infusion |
| 19:03.53 | kenlyric | what? |
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| 19:04.08 | kenlyric | ok, that made my side hurt. |
| 19:04.22 | kenlyric | more mods need to increase Bacon Power |
| 19:04.56 | jme | man |
| 19:05.03 | jme | the hunter T5 bonuses are >>>>>>>>> the T4 bonuses |
| 19:05.50 | NM|Xinhuan | the T5 mage gloves are a downgrade from T4 mage gloves - unless you're deep arcane specced |
| 19:06.00 | jme | ah |
| 19:06.12 | Antiarc|Work | The 2-piece rogue T4 is seriously sexy for raiding |
| 19:06.20 | Antiarc|Work | Since it lets you completely change your cycle |
| 19:06.24 | NM|Xinhuan | that's because t4 gloves has 17 spellhit, but t5 gloves has none |
| 19:06.59 | NM|Xinhuan | so the extra crit and damage is just negated completely, and worse |
| 19:07.15 | NM|Xinhuan | arcane specced mages don't need spellhit though - gets 10% from talents alone |
| 19:07.39 | NM|Xinhuan | so you'll see mages avoid taking t5 gloves unless they are arcane or plan to go arcane |
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| 19:11.48 | art3mis | or just want them as a vanity piece and they're just getting DE'd anyways |
| 19:12.20 | NM|Xinhuan | that would depend on the DKP system used |
| 19:12.30 | NM|Xinhuan | if any is used that is |
| 19:12.30 | CIA-22 | 03starinnia * r45315 10SimpleMD/ (Locale-enUS.lua SimpleMD.lua): |
| 19:12.30 | CIA-22 | SimpleMD: |
| 19:12.30 | CIA-22 | - Added option to broadcast casts to raid warning |
| 19:12.30 | art3mis | yeah |
| 19:12.32 | jme | our dkp is /roll |
| 19:13.29 | Bruners | what was that dogtab Numtarget again ? |
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| 19:14.07 | ckknight | NumTargetting |
| 19:14.08 | ckknight | I think |
| 19:15.43 | Bruners | yep, thanks |
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| 19:23.00 | NM|Xinhuan | is setting a new environment (setfenv) recommended for writing large addons? |
| 19:23.13 | ckknight | depends on the situation |
| 19:23.16 | ckknight | typically, no |
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| 19:23.32 | NM|Xinhuan | what situation would "recommend" it? |
| 19:23.51 | ckknight | I've used it to make sure importing data wouldn't do anything bad |
| 19:23.59 | ckknight | i.e. setfenv on a loadstring'd function |
| 19:25.35 | NeoTron | warlock tank is such a bad design idea |
| 19:25.39 | Ominous_ | Mikk, you around? |
| 19:25.42 | NM|Xinhuan | what about a localization file that has a few hundred global strings, putting all of those into a new environment (table), and have the actual addon switch to that table as the enviroment? |
| 19:25.45 | NeoTron | becuase you need such a gimp spec to do it :( |
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| 19:26.15 | Antiarc|Work | I wouldn't think there's really any point in doing that |
| 19:26.22 | Chompers | Antiarc: |
| 19:26.32 | Chompers | possible bug with Omen, i cant turn off pets |
| 19:26.32 | Ominous | sorry about that join leave spam |
| 19:26.32 | Antiarc|Work | The point of a second environment is generally to deny access to the normal environment's globals |
| 19:27.03 | NM|Xinhuan | the only advantage that would give would just be to avoid cluttering the globals with those few hundred strings? |
| 19:27.14 | pastamancer | use a table |
| 19:27.39 | NM|Xinhuan | that's the point, i don't want to convert a few hundred strings into a table |
| 19:27.45 | NM|Xinhuan | and change a few hundred lines of code to use that table |
| 19:28.09 | NeoTron | Antiarc|Work: some good news with omen is that it seemed to work fine on void reaver last night |
| 19:28.16 | pastamancer | sounds like a job for sed |
| 19:28.22 | Antiarc|Work | Yeah, I fixed the bug a few weeks ago |
| 19:28.42 | pastamancer | or you could just make all those strings 'local' if you don't need them across multiple files |
| 19:28.45 | Antiarc|Work | NM|Xinhuan: The "proper" way to do it would be to put them into a table rather than using setfenv, yes. |
| 19:29.03 | NM|Xinhuan | i know, but setfenv is like the shortcut to throw them all into a table ;p |
| 19:29.12 | NM|Xinhuan | without having to rewrite the whole file |
| 19:29.34 | Antiarc|Work | Well, it would probably work. But, you'll find we tend to advocate the Right Way over the Easy Way. ;) |
| 19:29.39 | NeoTron | we had one short weird period where all tanks fell off the list |
| 19:29.46 | NeoTron | but it fixed itself. no clue what was up with that |
| 19:29.50 | NM|Xinhuan | hah |
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| 19:39.26 | Kammotus | Gods, I am at my wit's end with WoWace - can't upload my addon. |
| 19:39.38 | kenlyric | rejected for suckage? |
| 19:40.08 | Kammotus | Err... no, I don't think so - but thanks for the contribution :) |
| 19:40.13 | Necrathex | i'm using TipHooker for an addon that modifies the tooltip, and it seems to spam the event when mousing over inventory items (rather than just firing once when clicking on an itemlink), any way to stop this? |
| 19:40.59 | pastamancer | item tooltips refresh constantly because of cooldown information, or rather the potential of cooldown information |
| 19:41.40 | Antiarc|Work | Kammotus: More info? |
| 19:41.56 | Necrathex | hm, so if i'd ignore the refresh my additions to the tooltip will be lost? |
| 19:42.05 | DarkImakuni | Kammoutus: Have you read the tutorial in the Ace Wiki? And have you set svn:eol-style to native? |
| 19:43.00 | Kammotus | Antiarc: I made an addon that blocks unwanted trades - as I play a mage, I get spammed with trades to give food/water (or gold); but I can't use that Blizzard blocking option, because it blocks trades during raids (and trades from people on my friend list, guildmates etc.). |
| 19:43.32 | Antiarc|Work | Well, I was more asking for info on what problems you were having committing it :) |
| 19:43.50 | Kammotus | Antiarc: Oh, OK - I just cannot upload it :) |
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| 19:44.19 | DarkImakuni | any error messages? |
| 19:44.24 | Kammotus | No error messages, no anything to go by (if there were error messages, I probably would be able to solve the problem.) |
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| 19:44.58 | kergoth | you trying to upload it to svn.wowace.com instead of dev.wowace.com? :P |
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| 19:45.35 | Kammotus | Nope. |
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| 19:46.58 | NightHawkTheSane | You know what sucks? when you go back to copy from some functions you wrote last week, only to take a look at them and realize that they very well may be completely wrong. >< |
| 19:47.21 | kergoth | hehe |
| 19:48.02 | CIA-22 | 03earthbane * r45317 10HellbenderDKP/HellbenderDKP.toc: |
| 19:48.02 | CIA-22 | HellbenderDKP: |
| 19:48.02 | CIA-22 | - toc X-Embeds update |
| 19:52.11 | Antiarc|Work | So it's committing, and just not showing up? |
| 19:53.13 | Josh_Borke | Antiarc|Work: he left |
| 19:53.16 | NightHawkTheSane | Why, in the name of whatever deity exists, is ANYONE talking about hillary clinton's clevage? http://mediamatters.org/items/200707290003?src=item200707290003 |
| 19:53.17 | Antiarc|Work | Oh, he did |
| 19:54.11 | Josh_Borke | yes he did |
| 19:54.24 | Josh_Borke | glad you are observant ;-P |
| 19:54.28 | Josh_Borke | rewrite healcap :-P |
| 19:54.36 | DarkImakuni | lol NightHawk. You'd think they'd find something more interesting/important to talk about |
| 19:54.48 | NightHawkTheSane | DarkImakuni: you'd think. |
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| 19:56.31 | Bam__ | any idea why FactionFu insists on moving to the top panel in FuBar on each login? |
| 19:57.22 | Elkano | I'm pretty sure that's not caused by FactionFu itself |
| 19:57.41 | Bam__ | general FuBar issue you mean? |
| 19:58.06 | Elkano | maybe... |
| 19:58.44 | durcyn | unless it's doing something weird on oninitialize/onenable |
| 19:59.00 | NightHawkTheSane | hah.. http://www.overheardinnewyork.com/archives/011122.html |
| 19:59.15 | NightHawkTheSane | Chinatownese..heh |
| 19:59.21 | Bam__ | I do think I have seen it with other plugins too in the past actually |
| 20:02.11 | Bam__ | lol now I tried setting it's position to CENTER.. now it's PerformanceFu that moves to the top |
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| 20:04.25 | earthbane | Are basic addon pages still being generated from the toc files? Or do I need to wander over and manually set something up? |
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| 20:07.35 | earthbane | and of course in the middle of my testing I can't log back into my realm. |
| 20:07.42 | Kemayo | It's nice to feel appreciated: http://www.wowinsider.com/2007/07/29/addon-spotlight-questsfu/ :D |
| 20:08.21 | DarkImakuni | God this is getting on my nerves... I'm writing a mod (as I often do) with a registered Tablet window. I open this window using a slash command or a fubar icon, close it using a clickable line inside the window, but when I want to open it again the window is completley empty. Can someone take a look at http://ace.pastey.net/71538 and tell me what I'm doing wrong? |
| 20:08.41 | DarkImakuni | grats Kemayo |
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| 20:10.01 | stavmar | Kemayo: read that this morning grats on teh compliments |
| 20:10.35 | Baraius | QuestFu rocks. |
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| 20:11.40 | Kemayo | DarkImakuni: Tablet tends to be a bit iffy on opening/closing. Try forcing a refresh in OnClick? |
| 20:11.50 | CIA-22 | 03cronan * r45318 10BigBrother/libs/: |
| 20:11.50 | CIA-22 | BigBrother: |
| 20:11.50 | CIA-22 | - Can't add externals because libs folder is not under version control |
| 20:12.34 | CIA-22 | 03cronan * r45319 10BigBrother/libs/: |
| 20:12.34 | CIA-22 | BigBrother: |
| 20:12.34 | CIA-22 | - Added external Babble-Spell-2.2 |
| 20:13.32 | DarkImakuni | didn't work :( |
| 20:14.08 | Kemayo | DarkImakuni: I've actually developed the habit of making my tablets all hideWhenEmpty, then adding a check in the 'children' function to see whether I want them to be 'closed'. I mainly do that because I wind up opening other tablets from clicking the tablet, and :Open will hide your current tablet. |
| 20:15.49 | DarkImakuni | Kemayo: thanks for the info. I'll go peek a look at the now world-famous QuestsFu and see what you do :) |
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| 20:16.21 | Kemayo | DarkImakuni: I wouldn't want to hold that approach up as a model of non-kludginess. But it does work. |
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| 20:20.01 | CIA-22 | 03cronan * r45320 10BigBrother/ (5 files): |
| 20:20.01 | CIA-22 | BigBrother: |
| 20:20.01 | CIA-22 | - Add localization support |
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| 20:21.41 | jme | http://tinyurl.com/2auzph <- impressive |
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| 20:24.40 | Coruss | hunters can be deadly provided two things are true |
| 20:24.47 | Coruss | they have uber gear, and get ignored |
| 20:25.07 | Coruss | focus on them and they can fall as fast as anyone |
| 20:25.45 | Coruss | that said, 17k hp is alot for anyone to chew through |
| 20:26.07 | Elkano | holy priests in pvp can be deadly as hell... roumors stand that a few guys have laught themselves to death once the priest became an angel ;) |
| 20:26.40 | Coruss | lol |
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| 20:27.57 | NightHawkTheSane | So, is it all normal/good if a server doesn't respond to pings, but otherwise works perfectly well? :P |
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| 20:28.17 | mikma | yay for assessment errors |
| 20:28.19 | Arrowmaster | just means icmp has been filtered by a firewall |
| 20:29.08 | dodgizzla | Or, the server hates him. |
| 20:29.12 | Coruss | ping is very very often ignored |
| 20:29.22 | mikma | Message: ..\AddOns\Assessment\Modules\Deaths.lua line 426: attempt to perform arithmetic on global 'amount' (a nil value) |
| 20:29.23 | Coruss | part of 'security through obscurity' |
| 20:29.38 | Coruss | basically any decently secured webserver/appserver will ignore pings |
| 20:29.42 | dodgizzla | Nah I'm pretty sure it's the hate thing :P |
| 20:29.47 | mikma | ass ess ment |
| 20:29.49 | Arrowmaster | were there are a few attacks that can be done with pings |
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| 20:29.59 | Coruss | lol, there were, ages ago |
| 20:30.05 | Arrowmaster | still are |
| 20:30.09 | Coruss | back in the windows 95 first edition days |
| 20:30.11 | dodgizzla | Coruss: What has ping to do with web-/appserver security? |
| 20:30.17 | jme | ping -f! |
| 20:30.29 | Xuerian | Amadeo: IRC plug just went full unicode rewrite in miranda, they slightly screwed up PM encoding |
| 20:30.48 | Amadeo | hahaha |
| 20:30.51 | Amadeo | I was like, wtf? |
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| 20:30.54 | Coruss | dodgizzla: simple really, how OS' respond to pings gives any good hacker 90% of the info they need to ID what OS they're working with |
| 20:31.11 | dodgizzla | Coruss: So? They know I run Linux. Then what? :P |
| 20:31.12 | Coruss | dodgizzla: I mention web/appservers merely because they're the most commonly web-accessible servers |
| 20:31.17 | Xuerian | Amadeo: I'll go downgrade the irc plugin, back in a couple minutes |
| 20:31.21 | Amadeo | ok :) |
| 20:31.27 | dodgizzla | Yeah, but that is just moving the problem to a different area |
| 20:31.32 | Arrowmaster | you can ping a bunch of different hosts while forging the source headers and all the hosts will respond to a target you specify, its a way of flooding |
| 20:31.35 | NightHawkTheSane | (to be sure,the server in this case is a svn server behind a VPN... ><) |
| 20:31.49 | Coruss | dodgizzla: so, then they go lookup known vulnerabilities in your particular distro/patch level and see how good your security is |
| 20:32.03 | dodgizzla | It's the same b/s people write on debian-isp, asking for a non-php webmailer, because PHP is so insecure and they don't have the time/knowledge/motivation to keep up with PHP issues... |
| 20:32.05 | Arrowmaster | if they want to find out what os is running they dont need ping |
| 20:32.13 | Coruss | true |
| 20:32.17 | Coruss | but it is an easy way |
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| 20:32.42 | dodgizzla | Arrowmaster: Yeah but when _sending_ packets in order to flood a machine it does not matter if you reply to those :P |
| 20:33.24 | Arrowmaster | dodgizzla: the flood target is the spoofed address |
| 20:33.24 | dodgizzla | Wasn't there a kernel module that allowed to fake ICMP replies, so people believe you run Windows95 or the like :D |
| 20:33.42 | dodgizzla | Arrowmaster: Ah I see. Misunderstood then :D |
| 20:34.03 | dodgizzla | Arrowmaster: I get that with eMail all the time.. I receive the bounces from spammed mail-servers :\ |
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| 20:34.31 | CIA-22 | 03cryect * r45321 10Recount/ (GUI_Config.lua GUI_Detail.lua colors.lua): Recount - Textures can now have a color multiplier applied (used for lines to match them with the title bar) |
| 20:34.33 | Arrowmaster | so you could have say 5 machines all sending spoofed pings to 1000 addresses each or so, meaning the target gets 5000 ping replys |
| 20:34.49 | dodgizzla | I wish people would use SPF |
| 20:35.08 | Arrowmaster | its a form of DDoS |
| 20:35.12 | Amadeo | I have to, or I'll get sunburn! |
| 20:35.27 | dodgizzla | Amadeo: Sun Protection.. Fluid? |
| 20:35.38 | Amadeo | Yep |
| 20:35.43 | dodgizzla | Clever there :> |
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| 20:36.06 | Amadeo | :P |
| 20:36.07 | Amadeo | Factor |
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| 20:38.20 | DarkImakuni | ~slap Tablet-2.0 |
| 20:38.20 | purl | ACTION slaps Tablet-2.0, keep your grubby fingers to yourself! |
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| 20:47.45 | Poul|Raider | http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/31952/ spot some errors for me :P |
| 20:48.02 | Poul|Raider | properly the string.find |
| 20:48.11 | Poul|Raider | cant remember who to make those |
| 20:48.31 | Josh_Borke | what is WoWEvents? |
| 20:48.40 | Poul|Raider | just a module |
| 20:48.52 | Josh_Borke | what does Bind do? |
| 20:48.52 | Poul|Raider | register a event, but not the problem there |
| 20:49.04 | Josh_Borke | so you can assume that arg1 exists? |
| 20:49.04 | Poul|Raider | binds the function to the event |
| 20:49.39 | Poul|Raider | ye it do |
| 20:49.46 | Josh_Borke | you probably want this instead: local var1, var2, var3 = string.match(arg1, "(%w+) interrupts (%s+)'s (%s)") |
| 20:50.00 | Josh_Borke | if var1 then VFL.print(var1.." "var2.." "..var3) |
| 20:50.49 | Ominous | who had the dataminer for wow-armory which scanned the arena teams, then each members guild and got the talent data for every lvl 70 char in the guild? |
| 20:51.20 | charon | i think a.ntiarc has a page with armory tools |
| 20:51.27 | Poul|Raider | Josh_Borke, dont the if found then do the same? |
| 20:51.41 | Poul|Raider | ok Josh_Borke, will use what you pasted |
| 20:51.48 | Josh_Borke | Poul|Raider: yes, but since you don't need the indexes you don't need to use string.find |
| 20:51.49 | charon | Ominous: http://armory.mmo-champion.com/index.php <- that? |
| 20:51.53 | Poul|Raider | fighting |
| 20:53.12 | Ominous | charon: no |
| 20:54.29 | Ominous | fin: ping |
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| 20:57.27 | DarkImakuni | argh nothing I do seems to work :'( |
| 20:57.47 | Poul|Raider | Josh_Borke, %w+ and %s+ is that the rights one to use? i just put em there dont even know what they mean |
| 20:57.49 | Poul|Raider | or remember |
| 20:57.56 | Josh_Borke | Poul|Raider: i have no idea what they mean |
| 20:57.59 | Josh_Borke | i was just copying you |
| 20:58.02 | Poul|Raider | oki |
| 20:58.09 | Poul|Raider | gotta look em up then |
| 20:58.28 | NightHawkTheSane | I think %w is word characters and %s is whitespace? |
| 20:59.34 | NightHawkTheSane | Then again, I could be off. I never could keep \s and \S straight, same with \w and \W |
| 20:59.41 | Fin | is there something like "OnModuleEnable" for FuBar plugins? |
| 21:00.17 | Fin | I want to set some stuff for a plugin at start, but the .db.char table doesn't exist yet apparently |
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| 21:04.33 | Ominous | Fin are you on ts? |
| 21:05.27 | Josh_Borke | bye bye |
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| 21:06.37 | Fin | Ominous: I'm on Vent, but I can go on TS |
| 21:06.42 | Fin | I'm not playing WoW |
| 21:06.49 | Ominous | ok ill join vent then |
| 21:06.52 | Fin | kk |
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| 21:09.06 | DarkImakuni | Man I'm starting to give up. Nothing I've tried works and kem's code is hard to follow |
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| 21:14.29 | Pkekyo|cookieplz | which one is easier/shorter: heroic underbog or heroic slave pens? |
| 21:15.57 | Gagorian | I can solo heroic slave pens :P |
| 21:16.08 | jme | hax |
| 21:16.39 | Gagorian | I'd say both take about the same time |
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| 21:20.07 | durcyn | Veight: stop already |
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| 21:20.42 | Pkekyo|cookieplz | [Plans: Steelgrip Gauntlets] worth putting 700g into, youthink? |
| 21:21.10 | Pkekyo|cookieplz | and no: I won't ever start thinking for myself! :> |
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| 21:28.37 | kergoth | question, is there a way to control the order in which a pet uses its abilities? to control its focus spending? |
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| 21:29.13 | Antiarc|Wor1 | The only thing I could think of would be a mod to toggle autocast in sequence |
| 21:29.24 | Antiarc|Wor1 | Assuming you can toggle it without hardware input |
| 21:29.26 | kergoth | i know mods used to do that, long ago |
| 21:29.28 | kergoth | hmm |
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| 21:30.11 | Pkekyo|cookieplz | anyone know if Opera (the web browser) has an irc channel? |
| 21:30.27 | [dRaCo] | dont think so |
| 21:30.43 | Pkekyo|cookieplz | :< |
| 21:31.01 | Pkekyo|cookieplz | you answering me, draco?= |
| 21:31.08 | [dRaCo] | yeah. |
| 21:31.12 | Pkekyo|cookieplz | any good with opera? :p |
| 21:31.26 | [dRaCo] | well... good enough for me |
| 21:31.26 | NightHawkTheSane | I'd be surprised if there wasn't an opera oriented irc channel -somewhere- |
| 21:31.46 | [dRaCo] | opera oriented, prolly... no official one, though |
| 21:31.56 | NightHawkTheSane | fair enough |
| 21:32.12 | NightHawkTheSane | Although.. |
| 21:32.14 | Pkekyo|cookieplz | you know how you type g [random search string] in the url field in opera? possible to config what search engines that works with? |
| 21:32.25 | [dRaCo] | yeah, u can |
| 21:32.34 | Pkekyo|cookieplz | howto? :> |
| 21:32.43 | NightHawkTheSane | a quick google search leads to opera's wikipedia page, which has a link to irc.opera.com, #Opera |
| 21:32.45 | NightHawkTheSane | so... :P |
| 21:32.53 | [dRaCo] | extras -> preferences -> searches |
| 21:32.57 | [dRaCo] | NightHawkTheSane: you win :/ |
| 21:33.15 | NightHawkTheSane | [dRaCo]: your google-wiki-fu is weak. :P |
| 21:33.23 | Pkekyo|cookieplz | nighthawk: does it say what server it's on? |
| 21:33.28 | Pkekyo|cookieplz | nevermind |
| 21:33.32 | [dRaCo] | was just guessing, no googling ;) |
| 21:33.42 | NightHawkTheSane | Pkekyo|cookieplz: reading ftw? :) |
| 21:34.06 | [dRaCo] | I already answered the question anyway :þ |
| 21:35.31 | [dRaCo] | it's tools though, not extras |
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| 21:36.19 | Pkekyo|cookieplz | NightHawkTheSane: yes, I'm just not very good at it x) |
| 21:36.28 | NightHawkTheSane | :) |
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| 21:37.38 | LAG|Domo | Is it possible to target a Raid Icon in a macro? |
| 21:37.44 | LAG|Domo | Eg /target skull |
| 21:37.46 | NightHawkTheSane | no |
| 21:37.47 | Antiarc|Wor1 | No |
| 21:37.51 | durcyn | no. raidtargets are not valid tokens. |
| 21:37.55 | durcyn | er icons |
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| 21:38.03 | LAG|Domo | Alright. Is there any way to configure Grid to show raid icons? >.> |
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| 21:39.40 | NightHawkTheSane | I can't think of any way by default, i could be wrong, though. Seems like you could probably code a module or something to do that though. |
| 21:41.37 | LAG|Domo | Would actually be a nice feature. It's odd it's not implemented. |
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| 21:51.30 | buu | So.. is it possible to create a macro/something that tries to target someone and trade something to them? |
| 21:51.34 | CIA-22 | 03gamefaq * r45322 10Babble-2.2/Babble-Boss-2.2/Babble-Boss-2.2.lua: |
| 21:51.34 | CIA-22 | Babble-2.2: |
| 21:51.34 | CIA-22 | - deDE Update Black Temple, Essence of Souls Types |
| 21:52.49 | Gnarfoz | yay |
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| 21:52.51 | Gnarfoz | 309 +hit |
| 21:58.34 | yacoob | hm |
| 21:58.44 | yacoob | I need a sound sample |
| 21:59.09 | yacoob | perhaps anyone has such thing: sound of knife hitting something, with reverberation |
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| 22:01.59 | NimbleRabit | anyone know why Search in WhoDrop never returns results for me? |
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| 22:03.33 | NeoTron | any lock here tanked leotheras in non-demo spec? |
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| 22:04.05 | Dustwhisper| | fuuuck |
| 22:04.07 | Dustwhisper| | vashj to 6% =D |
| 22:04.08 | CIA-22 | 03speeddymon * r45323 10CooldownTimers2/ (Core.lua fubar-plugin.lua): |
| 22:04.08 | CIA-22 | CooldownTimers2: |
| 22:04.08 | CIA-22 | - Fixed LUA errors in menus |
| 22:04.08 | CIA-22 | - Fixed inability to have bars that only use 2 colors |
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| 22:08.04 | Kaelten | hammering the sever, sorry if its slowing down |
| 22:08.06 | Kaelten | be over soon |
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| 22:12.50 | Coruss | can anyone tell me the differences between ag_unitFrames and pitbull? |
| 22:12.58 | trh | Kaelten: what happened to the june stats? (wowace.com/june.html) |
| 22:13.29 | Kaelten | they killed the damn server |
| 22:13.30 | Kaelten | :s |
| 22:13.53 | Kaelten | ended up locking up the system so that the filesystem got locked in read only somehow |
| 22:13.55 | Antiarc|Work | Sooo. |
| 22:14.02 | Antiarc|Work | I just put in my 2 weeks notice at my job. |
| 22:14.10 | deltron | ! |
| 22:14.10 | trh | Kaelten: lol =) |
| 22:14.10 | Antiarc|Work | <--- going to work on his own business. |
| 22:14.11 | yacoob | errors on the filesystem? |
| 22:14.16 | Coruss | woa... |
| 22:14.16 | trh | Antiarc: oh... good lick :) |
| 22:14.18 | yacoob | (remount-ro) |
| 22:14.19 | deltron | Antiarc|Work: grats man |
| 22:14.19 | trh | err.. |
| 22:14.21 | trh | Antiarc: luck |
| 22:14.29 | Coruss | Antiarc: godspeed, and good luck! |
| 22:14.58 | CIA-22 | 03speeddymon * r45324 10CooldownTimers2/ (. CooldownTimers2.toc Menu.lua fubar-plugin.lua): |
| 22:14.58 | CIA-22 | CooldownTimers2: |
| 22:14.58 | CIA-22 | - Renamed the menu file to something more suitable |
| 22:14.58 | CIA-22 | - Added Waterfall-1.0 dependency in preparation of adding Waterfall support |
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| 22:15.11 | trh | .oO(hoping antiarc has less to do and gets more money for it so he can put more time into threat) |
| 22:15.21 | Antiarc|Work | Hahah, no, my WoW time is about to dive dramatically |
| 22:15.27 | Antiarc|Work | But Threat is almost done |
| 22:15.36 | Antiarc|Work | However |
| 22:15.37 | Speeddymon | Quick question |
| 22:15.43 | trh | yeah.. windows and linux are almost done too... :P |
| 22:15.47 | Antiarc|Work | Since I will be working from home, I can stay up till 4 AM working on Threat if I need to :P |
| 22:16.08 | Galka | id |
| 22:16.17 | trh | Galka: iddqd |
| 22:16.20 | Speeddymon | I've made a couple of changes to CDT2 and committed them to SVN, but how do I get WAU to pick them up? |
| 22:16.22 | Galka | nice |
| 22:16.23 | Coruss | reccomendation: pitbull or ag_unitframes? |
| 22:16.26 | Thrae | Antiarc|Work's business is making addons! Ala RDX, Omen and use of the Threat library will now require a registration fee of $25.99. |
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| 22:16.36 | Speeddymon | coruss: I prefer ag_Uf |
| 22:16.39 | trh | Speeddymon: waiting |
| 22:16.46 | Speeddymon | oh |
| 22:17.09 | Antiarc|Work | Thrae: Heh, perhaps as a hobby business one day ;) |
| 22:17.11 | Antiarc|Work | But not now. |
| 22:17.14 | trh | Speeddymon: files.wowace.com updates every 20minutes or sth |
| 22:17.19 | Antiarc|Work | Socially-driven web applications. |
| 22:17.31 | trh | aka web 2.0 :P |
| 22:17.42 | Antiarc|Work | Sorta. |
| 22:17.44 | Antiarc|Work | Web 2.1 |
| 22:17.52 | Antiarc|Work | It's a step beyond the current social stuff. |
| 22:18.03 | Shirik | Thrae: I should hurt you |
| 22:18.15 | trh | Antiarc: in my opinion web 2.0 doesn't work because most people are idiots :P |
| 22:18.29 | trh | Antiarc: it may work for these idiots, but as a non-idiot web2.0 is mostly stupid ;) |
| 22:18.47 | Coruss | web2.0 is annoying because put plainly, not *everything* needs to be a damn app |
| 22:18.48 | Thrae | Shirik: You can branch it off and then sell your version for $39.99. |
| 22:18.49 | Shirik | Web2.0 is nice. What isn't nice is developers taking it to about Web200.0 |
| 22:19.10 | Shirik | *headdesk* |
| 22:19.25 | NightHawkTheSane | Coruss: that's not a problem with "web2.0",that's a problem with developers and companies. |
| 22:19.33 | trh | Shirik: well.. it's a commonly used term.. and every other developer knows what'S really meant |
| 22:19.37 | Thrae | Shirik: Use of Dongle adds $10 to any project! |
| 22:20.19 | Antiarc|Work | I think that if you get beyond the "web 2.0" moniker, there's still a lot of growth for the web. |
| 22:20.35 | Chompers | web2.0: you make the content, we make the profit |
| 22:20.42 | Coruss | NightHawkTheSane: granted, but the buzzword is still what pushes those devs and companies to do it |
| 22:20.53 | Shirik | I completely agree. The PROBLEM with the web right now is developers need to chill and take things one step at a time |
| 22:21.04 | Chompers | good luck with your business Antiarc |
| 22:21.06 | Antiarc|Work | Thanks. =) |
| 22:21.06 | Shirik | not everything needs to be animated and flying across the screen |
| 22:21.12 | NightHawkTheSane | Antiarc|Work: well, the issue there is getting past the moniker. Companies love buzzwords. |
| 22:21.14 | trh | Antiarc: growth, sure, but i think the web 2.0 bubble will sooner or later burst... just look at most popular web2.0 sites how f*cked up the content is |
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| 22:21.15 | Shirik | with popup menus every 2 pixels |
| 22:21.27 | Thrae | O kist realized -- one way to improve donation rates would be for Kaelten to give special addons to donators. Then maybe Kaelten will actually code stuff again... |
| 22:21.28 | Shirik | And load the entire site on one page |
| 22:21.39 | Antiarc|Work | NightHawkTheSane: Yes, they certainly do. |
| 22:21.44 | Kaelten | lol |
| 22:21.56 | Kaelten | I still think microtransactions would be better |
| 22:21.57 | Shirik | Thrae: What about Ace? |
| 22:22.00 | Antiarc|Work | trh: I don't think so, really. There's always going to be a demand for interconnectivity and information exchange. |
| 22:22.06 | NightHawkTheSane | Ideally, developers need to stop thinking in terms of 'web1.0" and "web2.0" or what-have-you. And just focus on what makes the project in question work the best. but *shrug* |
| 22:22.07 | trh | Antiarc|Work: good example: youtube.com - look at the tag clouds and "top 100" - bot-voted crap or if user voted usually stupid or commercial stuff you see on mtv every 2 hours |
| 22:22.09 | Kaelten | pennie per download, comeon guys |
| 22:22.16 | Thrae | Shirik: Ace2 is ckknight's baby ;) |
| 22:22.24 | Antiarc|Work | trh: And yet, Youtube is one of the most popular sites on the internet. |
| 22:22.28 | trh | Antiarc: yes, but it does only in closed communities |
| 22:22.30 | Shirik | do I have to pay you licensing fees? |
| 22:22.37 | Antiarc|Work | I probably watch 5 youtube videos per day, easily. |
| 22:22.44 | Thrae | Kaelten lost the rights, and now has to pay ckknight alimony |
| 22:22.49 | Antiarc|Work | trh: Ah, that's the trick, isn't it? ;) |
| 22:22.57 | Antiarc|Work | We're working in that direction. :) |
| 22:23.04 | trh | Antiarc: sure, there is good content too, but you don't find the good content via the youtube "top-rated" stuff |
| 22:23.08 | Kaelten | lol, its still my project by all technical things. |
| 22:23.12 | Antiarc|Work | trh: Also agreed. |
| 22:23.15 | trh | Antiarc: mostly via links from other people |
| 22:23.17 | Antiarc|Work | We, too, think that the current incarnations of the "social" apps are really rough. |
| 22:23.21 | Antiarc|Work | trh: ExACTLY. :) |
| 22:23.27 | Antiarc|Work | That's true social networking right there. |
| 22:23.33 | trh | Antiarc: and there's basically no difference if they link it to you on youtube or on *server* |
| 22:23.46 | Thrae | KC_Items still uses Ace 0.955 and AceGUI 0.57, with some Ace2.0 mixed in! You may think it doesn't, but it does. |
| 22:24.00 | Kaelten | um....... |
| 22:24.08 | Kaelten | the new KC_Items is all Ace2 based |
| 22:24.26 | Kaelten | I'm going to start leveraging more time to working on it in the near future |
| 22:24.45 | trh | i wonder how often Kaelten would get sued if he renames KC_Items to kentucky fried items ;) |
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| 22:24.53 | trh | somehow KC_Items always remembers me of KFC ;) |
| 22:24.57 | Kaelten | LOL |
| 22:25.10 | Antiarc|Work | trh: Basically, the reason I'm so optimistic is because I see the same problems you do, and my partner and I are designing apps that go a step beyond, where those kinds of problems aren't even an issue |
| 22:25.10 | Kaelten | someone shoot me now |
| 22:25.15 | Funkeh` | yeah.. i see the resemblance... |
| 22:25.17 | trh | but i have no idea why ;) |
| 22:25.25 | Antiarc|Work | We aren't wanting to be the next youtube or facebook. Just going in a new, better direction :D |
| 22:25.30 | trh | Antiarc: :) |
| 22:26.06 | Chompers | porno...in your BRAIN |
| 22:26.25 | trh | uh... porno from users for users.. that'd SELL ;) |
| 22:26.26 | Chompers | $19.95 for electrodes kit |
| 22:29.24 | Speeddymon | Kaelten: you ready for me to up you the addon directory for that onebag issue? |
| 22:30.11 | Kaelten | not yet |
| 22:30.14 | Kaelten | I'm still at work |
| 22:30.21 | Speeddymon | k, just semd me a /msg when you are |
| 22:30.29 | Kaelten | kk |
| 22:31.04 | Speeddymon | oh yea, thanks again for poking mindcontrol (i think that was his name) about nSidebar, and for letting me take over CDT2 |
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| 22:31.35 | Shirik | msg is teh sux |
| 22:31.38 | Shirik | use /query :P |
| 22:31.43 | trh | it's teh same :P |
| 22:32.10 | Shirik | negative, at least not on Speeddymon's client |
| 22:32.23 | trh | unless you mean the irc protocol QUERY command =) |
| 22:32.36 | Shirik | query opens a window, msg does not until you receive a privmsg back |
| 22:32.45 | Galka | ~seen hyperactiveChipmunk |
| 22:32.48 | purl | i haven't seen 'hyperactivechipmunk', Galka |
| 22:32.59 | Galka | Its hyper, isn't it >.> |
| 22:33.05 | Shirik | iirc, yeah |
| 22:33.12 | Shirik | try sedatedchipmunk? |
| 22:33.17 | trh | Shirik: i think you can configure nearly every client to that behaviour or to always open a window :) |
| 22:34.25 | CIA-22 | 03kemayo * r45325 10OpenAll/ (OpenAll.lua OpenAll.toc): |
| 22:34.25 | CIA-22 | OpenAll: According to the file modified dates these changes are from about a month ago. I noticed them on my work computer, so apparently I hadn't committed them. Looking at svn diff, I think I: |
| 22:34.25 | CIA-22 | -Added some LoadManagers |
| 22:34.25 | CIA-22 | -Added a check for the inventory being full |
| 22:34.25 | CIA-22 | -Switched to reverse collection (I assume I stole this from hyperChipmunk) |
| 22:34.28 | CIA-22 | -Maybe broke stuff. Who knows? |
| 22:35.01 | Kemayo | Whee committing random old code you find! |
| 22:35.27 | Shirik | I love reading commit messages that say "Who knows" |
| 22:35.44 | NightHawkTheSane | Kemayo: best commit message ever. |
| 22:36.00 | Speeddymon | lol |
| 22:36.58 | trh | i wish svn would just guess what has been improved and automagically build a commit message :) |
| 22:37.15 | Kaelten | lol that'd be horrid |
| 22:37.37 | trh | i wonder if that'll ever be possible |
| 22:37.49 | Shirik | I would rather have it the other way |
| 22:37.51 | trh | i mean AI is getting better and better :) |
| 22:37.55 | Shirik | You make the commit message, it makes the code |
| 22:37.59 | Shirik | - Fixed all bugs |
| 22:38.02 | trh | Shirik: that'd be nice too :) |
| 22:38.21 | trh | Shirik: maybe even without that... so it automatically enhances your application :) |
| 22:38.38 | Shirik | - No longer sucks |
| 22:38.52 | Kemayo | Aw, the Defias Pilager has sunk on the list of most dangerous creatures. It's only 8th now. |
| 22:39.04 | Amadeo | what is Succubus at? |
| 22:39.06 | NightHawkTheSane | "- Additionally, SVN decided your addon was a worthless waste of valueable bytes, and has been replaced by high quality porn." |
| 22:39.15 | trh | NightHawkTheSane: lol :) |
| 22:39.16 | Shirik | rofl |
| 22:39.30 | durcyn | ~seen Roartindon |
| 22:39.32 | purl | roartindon <n=jtlim@ppp121-45-111-72.lns10.adl6.internode.on.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 4d 4h 58m 57s ago, saying: 'ckknight: Not sure if it's been reported before; but I know others in my guild have complained about it'. |
| 22:39.32 | trh | NightHawkTheSane: i'm guessing most people would be ok with that :P |
| 22:39.41 | Kemayo | Amadeo: 27th. |
| 22:39.49 | Amadeo | what's first now!? |
| 22:39.57 | Kemayo | Amadeo: 1st is Voidwalker and 2 is Felguard. :D |
| 22:39.57 | Athou | ckknight: is it possible to make Tablet-2.0 buttons inherit SecureActionButtonTemplate or something, to be able to execute secure actions ? |
| 22:39.57 | NightHawkTheSane | trh: probably :) |
| 22:40.05 | Amadeo | wtf |
| 22:40.07 | Shirik | suprised felguard isn't up higher |
| 22:40.09 | Amadeo | is that a joke? haha |
| 22:40.17 | trh | Kemayo: voidwalker.. wtf? void reaver? |
| 22:40.19 | Amadeo | or does it count mob kills also? |
| 22:40.22 | Kemayo | Amadeo: Voidwalker has 154k kills, almost 3x that of the felguard. |
| 22:40.22 | Shirik | every warlock and their mom has one |
| 22:40.31 | Amadeo | My mom's a Warlock |
| 22:40.36 | trh | Shirik: voidwalkers don't kill anything |
| 22:40.36 | Shirik | and we have too many damn warlocks in general |
| 22:40.40 | Kemayo | The message implies that it's just player deaths. |
| 22:40.42 | trh | they are basically big blue trashbags ;) |
| 22:40.49 | Amadeo | that's really wild |
| 22:41.44 | Amadeo | What do most Warlocks spec for Arenas? |
| 22:41.54 | Amadeo | I don't think I've seen one Demonologist on PTR |
| 22:42.05 | durcyn | 23/38/0 was the flavor of the week most recenly |
| 22:42.06 | trh | i think they count it if a void walker dies from a warlocks sacrifice stuff or sth |
| 22:42.17 | Amadeo | maybe they're just using other pets |
| 22:42.23 | Kemayo | I can see it. I mean, the voidwalker is a good levelling pet, and while its damage isn't great, it is out there hitting things a lot. |
| 22:42.39 | trh | Kemayo: but not players? |
| 22:42.42 | Amadeo | That's true, and when do you get it? Like level 10 |
| 22:42.44 | Arrowmaster | trh: yeah they probably do since you get a "You killed Voidwalker." message in the combat log |
| 22:43.03 | Shirik | ha |
| 22:43.06 | Amadeo | hahaha |
| 22:43.10 | Kemayo | It's also possible that because of the killing-blow-sharing stuff in a recent patch that all things killed by a warlock apply +1 to the count for their pet, too. |
| 22:43.11 | *** part/#wowace Keya (n=patrick@xdsl-87-78-44-8.netcologne.de) |
| 22:43.12 | Shirik | well, does it say "You have slain Voidwalker" like another mob? |
| 22:43.20 | Shirik | or exactly "You killed Voidwalker" |
| 22:43.38 | Arrowmaster | its the you have slain or whatever one |
| 22:43.45 | Shirik | ah |
| 22:44.02 | trh | i don't trust the blizzard stats :) |
| 22:44.08 | Shirik | nobody should |
| 22:45.51 | trh | http://icanhascheezburger.files.wordpress.com/2007/07/128285394416562500brrraaaiiinnnss.jpg |
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| 22:55.28 | NightHawkTheSane | Preferably heterosexual braaaaiiinnnnnss.... |
| 22:56.25 | CIA-22 | 03oridan * r45326 10ShoutReminder/ShoutReminder.lua: |
| 22:56.25 | CIA-22 | ShoutReminder: |
| 22:56.25 | CIA-22 | - fix bar position bug |
| 22:58.41 | kergoth | ckknight, adding incoming pet damage to parrot was a copy & paste job mostly if you want the patch or want to do it yourself |
| 22:58.43 | kergoth | heh |
| 22:59.04 | Kemayo | copy-paste? For shame! Abstraction! |
| 22:59.21 | Kemayo | What we need here is ParrotFactory. |
| 22:59.52 | buu | Hrm. |
| 23:00.01 | trh | ParrotFactory sounds politically wrong |
| 23:00.14 | trh | should be ParrotBreeding or sth ;) |
| 23:02.50 | NightHawkTheSane | ParrotEgg = ParotBreeder::Lay(); Parrot = ParrotEgg->Hatch(); |
| 23:03.01 | trh | yea.. that sounds politically correct ;) |
| 23:03.53 | ckknight | kergoth: just commit ;-) |
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| 23:04.21 | ckknight | NightHawkTheSane: this isn't C. |
| 23:04.42 | NightHawkTheSane | maybe not, but that -was- sarcasm ;) |
| 23:04.54 | trh | ckknight: his code ain't C either :P |
| 23:05.11 | ckknight | Athou: no, nor do I plan to allow that |
| 23:05.21 | ckknight | trh: well, it's in the C/C++ dialect |
| 23:05.33 | trh | ckknight: c != c++ :) |
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| 23:05.55 | ckknight | trh: self.pork(your mom) |
| 23:06.08 | NightHawkTheSane | as my professor once put it.. C++ is C with objects grafted on, kicking and screaming. |
| 23:06.19 | ckknight | and some extra stuff |
| 23:06.24 | ckknight | but done poorly |
| 23:06.27 | CIA-22 | 03sayclub * r45327 10BigWigs/BlackTemple/Illidan.lua: |
| 23:06.27 | CIA-22 | BigWigs: |
| 23:06.27 | CIA-22 | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:06.41 | NightHawkTheSane | true, but he was mostly referring to how it handles classes/objects |
| 23:06.44 | trh | some stuff is pretty cool in c++ |
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| 23:07.09 | Kaelten | if thats what c++ is whats objective c? |
| 23:07.19 | Saint-N | hey kael |
| 23:07.38 | NightHawkTheSane | C with classes and objects done better? *shrug* i actually don't know too much about obj-c |
| 23:07.39 | ckknight | Kaelten: you know what'd be _hilarious_? |
| 23:07.39 | Saint-N | might is gugest you NOT cover the banner with the progress bars in WAU? |
| 23:07.40 | trh | Kaelten: objective C adds messaging to c |
| 23:07.45 | Saint-N | suggest even |
| 23:07.56 | Kaelten | ckknight: I'm afraid to ask |
| 23:08.01 | ckknight | Kaelten: if I got Joker/Ace3 done before you get KCI for Ace2 done. |
| 23:08.06 | Saint-N | hahaha |
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| 23:08.16 | Kaelten | ~lart ckknight |
| 23:08.16 | purl | executes killall -HUP ckknight |
| 23:08.29 | trh | Kaelten: if you know smalltalk you get a idea how it's done :) |
| 23:08.30 | NightHawkTheSane | ckknight: at this rate, I'm pretty sure we'll see wow 3.0 before Ac2'd KCI is done;) |
| 23:08.34 | ckknight | self.pork(Kaelten's mom) |
| 23:09.05 | trh | only -HUP, purl, why not -SIGKILL? :P |
| 23:09.08 | Saint-N | ckk go make a bag mod |
| 23:09.19 | Kaelten | why there are too many good ones out there? |
| 23:09.19 | ckknight | no, bags are for lamers |
| 23:09.26 | trh | we want to raise the interrupt priority all to the top :) |
| 23:09.37 | Saint-N | because he hasnt infected that branch of mods yet ;) |
| 23:09.39 | Saint-N | duh |
| 23:09.48 | Chompers | ckknight: had any thoughts about the variable sized text in parrot? |
| 23:09.54 | Saint-N | bags and bars are all thats left to get animal names and 14 modules ;P |
| 23:09.56 | ckknight | what about it? |
| 23:10.13 | ckknight | Chompers: size based on amount of damage and the like? pretty damn complex. |
| 23:10.17 | Chompers | do you think you'll ever implement it in Parrot? |
| 23:10.24 | Saint-N | it is not ckk |
| 23:10.24 | ckknight | *shrug* |
| 23:10.26 | Chompers | yeah, it sounds complex |
| 23:10.37 | Chompers | it also sounds pretty fucking awesome |
| 23:10.40 | Saint-N | no more complex than the "scale all" option you added to pitbull ;P |
| 23:10.56 | Saint-N | im surprised i actually like parrot |
| 23:11.02 | Saint-N | it fits well with most huds |
| 23:11.10 | Chompers | kinda thing you'd see in a ckk brand addon ;) |
| 23:11.23 | Saint-N | laugh |
| 23:11.47 | Saint-N | oh who was it that did clearfont again? |
| 23:11.51 | Saint-N | kenlyric? |
| 23:11.52 | Kaelten | Kirkburn |
| 23:11.56 | Saint-N | ahh i knew it was a k |
| 23:12.14 | Saint-N | kkk ken kem and kirk |
| 23:12.14 | Kaelten | I blame all you guys out there who spend too much time on the site as to why I don't code mods much atm |
| 23:12.42 | Saint-N | it surelyhas nothing to do with having a decent new computer you can actually game on eh kael? |
| 23:12.59 | Kaelten | no I had a good computer that could game no problems, |
| 23:13.03 | Saint-N | lies! |
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| 23:13.06 | Kaelten | actually it has to do with not playing wow enough |
| 23:13.11 | Kaelten | I code addons more when I play wow |
| 23:13.22 | Amadeo | not ckknight! |
| 23:13.27 | Saint-N | and you code children when you're not? |
| 23:13.36 | Kaelten | websites mainly |
| 23:13.46 | Kaelten | I will say this my coding char has some 40 days of play time |
| 23:13.55 | Kaelten | and he's only level 36 |
| 23:13.56 | Saint-N | i sure how wowace.com isnt yer flagship for business ;) |
| 23:14.05 | Saint-N | s/how/hope/ |
| 23:14.16 | Kaelten | I'd love to have done wowace full time but the ads never got there |
| 23:14.18 | ckknight | Amadeo: ? |
| 23:14.25 | Saint-N | thats a good thing though |
| 23:14.28 | Saint-N | ads suck |
| 23:14.33 | Amadeo | ckknight: You don't code addons more when you play WoW, you code them more when you don't play WoW :P |
| 23:14.34 | Kaelten | Na I work for Curse |
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| 23:14.42 | ckknight | Amadeo: very true |
| 23:14.48 | Amadeo | Is that why Curse has the best website around now? |
| 23:14.55 | Saint-N | it does not |
| 23:15.01 | Saint-N | it just sucks less than the last version |
| 23:15.03 | ckknight | I want a job, a real job, one where I don't have to inhale fumes or mix bags of concrete |
| 23:15.11 | Amadeo | I like the new Curse |
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| 23:15.23 | Chompers | work for Antiarc |
| 23:15.26 | Saint-N | ckknight: a job is where you don't work |
| 23:15.29 | Amadeo | has a much more professional feel |
| 23:15.36 | ckknight | Saint-N: ? |
| 23:15.43 | Saint-N | like what i do |
| 23:15.47 | Saint-N | i do no actual work |
| 23:15.50 | Saint-N | so i have a job |
| 23:16.08 | Saint-N | Antiarc|Work: verb |
| 23:16.10 | Saint-N | err |
| 23:16.16 | Saint-N | work is a verb |
| 23:16.18 | Kaelten | I worked on some of the back end of curse and wrot ethe blog system |
| 23:16.19 | Saint-N | job is a noun |
| 23:16.21 | Saint-N | ;) |
| 23:16.39 | Kaelten | the overal deisign improvements come from having a real art directory |
| 23:16.42 | Kaelten | er directory |
| 23:16.43 | Amadeo | Kaelten likes back ends and he cannot lie |
| 23:16.45 | Kaelten | wtf |
| 23:16.45 | Saint-N | i think wowace is the best addons site around, then wowi |
| 23:16.50 | Kaelten | director |
| 23:17.02 | trh | Amadeo: big back ends :P |
| 23:17.06 | Saint-N | mainly cuz you go there, get what yopu want without refreshs and farting around trying to find something |
| 23:17.12 | Amadeo | Saint-N: I'm talking about design |
| 23:17.21 | Saint-N | design means shit if its not functional |
| 23:17.24 | Dustwhisper| | the art director that did Curse mustve loved stock CMS |
| 23:17.33 | Amadeo | I don't care, that's what I was talking about :P |
| 23:17.35 | Saint-N | kind of like a realdoll without working holes ;P |
| 23:17.36 | Dustwhisper| | cause it looks like a complete copy of any normal "buy a website" =D |
| 23:17.52 | NeoTron | so... curse.com is a business? I thought it was a guild? :P |
| 23:17.59 | Kaelten | its a business now |
| 23:17.59 | trh | i like the ui.worldofwar.com design.... simple, efficient, good readable |
| 23:18.04 | Antiarc|Work | Traffic + ads = business |
| 23:18.07 | Amadeo | They're all businesses |
| 23:18.12 | trh | err.... .net |
| 23:18.29 | Amadeo | Antiarc|Work: Yeah, tons of ads :P |
| 23:18.47 | Xuerian | zzzzzzz |
| 23:18.51 | Xuerian | er. |
| 23:18.52 | Xuerian | Wrong window. |
| 23:18.53 | Xuerian | XD |
| 23:19.11 | Amadeo | I especially love the hardware review sites that write a 15 page review, one paragraph a page...just to fit in more ad hits |
| 23:19.11 | Saint-N | you just need to make a framed window that has 10 second timers for ad impression refreshes |
| 23:19.29 | Saint-N | way down at the bottom |
| 23:19.35 | Saint-N | so no-one actually seesit |
| 23:19.46 | Saint-N | yay javascript |
| 23:20.02 | trh | Amadeo: hehe.. i love the pages where they don't have ads but want up to 2$ for a simple comparison between 2 hardwares when the complete magacine only costs like 3$ |
| 23:20.18 | Amadeo | I haven't seen that yet...I'd find another site :P |
| 23:20.28 | trh | Amadeo: seen it on a german site :) |
| 23:20.36 | Amadeo | Good thing I can't read German! |
| 23:20.41 | Saint-N | lots of sites do it |
| 23:20.41 | trh | Amadeo: just shook my head and looked somewhere else :) |
| 23:20.47 | Saint-N | tomshardware and pc review |
| 23:21.07 | Amadeo | I never read TomsHardware |
| 23:21.14 | Saint-N | its used to be awesome |
| 23:21.23 | Amadeo | It never was, he was always biased towards whoever paid him more |
| 23:21.24 | Saint-N | then the ads outweigheed the content |
| 23:21.25 | Amadeo | Intel or AMD, etc |
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| 23:21.34 | Saint-N | not always |
| 23:21.50 | Saint-N | some of the reviews were pretty funny when chips would fry nm stuff |
| 23:22.07 | Amadeo | I don't think there are very many good review sites around anymore :( |
| 23:22.24 | Kaelten | hardocp? |
| 23:22.34 | Amadeo | I check that sometimes, they just don't review too much |
| 23:22.47 | Amadeo | I also check techreport once and a while |
| 23:23.04 | Kaelten | ya their forums are pretty handy at times though |
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| 23:23.48 | Amadeo | yeah, they have good forums |
| 23:23.50 | Amadeo | deal forums too |
| 23:24.25 | Kaelten | arstechnica? |
| 23:24.26 | Saint-N | home time! |
| 23:24.36 | Gnarfoz | <3 [H |
| 23:24.40 | Gnarfoz | damn I fail |
| 23:24.50 | Amadeo | I haven't been there in a long time, I should check it out again |
| 23:25.08 | Amadeo | Hey, MS released some sort of beta performance patch for Vista |
| 23:25.11 | Amadeo | I'm curious :) |
| 23:25.15 | Kaelten | hrm interesting |
| 23:25.23 | trh | woot? |
| 23:25.36 | Amadeo | http://www.hardocp.com/news.html?news=MjcyMDIsLCxoZW50aHVzaWFzdCwsLDE= |
| 23:25.55 | trh | sounds goooooood |
| 23:26.09 | Amadeo | I'm just extremely curious if Vista can shape up at all |
| 23:26.37 | Coruss | bah vista ftl |
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| 23:26.47 | Kaelten | I actually run vista at home atm |
| 23:26.51 | Kaelten | I get > 100fps |
| 23:26.53 | Coruss | I'm so tired of M$ |
| 23:26.57 | trh | <3 vista's search/run in the start bar |
| 23:27.00 | Kaelten | so I'm not worried to bad |
| 23:27.03 | Amadeo | Kaelten: I'd be extremely happy with half of that :P |
| 23:27.09 | trh | Coruss: try linux.. then you know why you stay with MS ;) |
| 23:27.21 | Amadeo | rofl |
| 23:27.24 | Kaelten | linux isn't bad |
| 23:27.25 | Coruss | trh: I've used linux and bsd |
| 23:27.27 | Kaelten | but its not a gaming box |
| 23:27.29 | Coruss | several flavours of both |
| 23:27.40 | Kaelten | I have linux at home for web dev |
| 23:27.42 | trh | every distribution i tried so far felt like a big beta test :) |
| 23:27.50 | Coruss | I use M$ on my PC for gaming, that's it |
| 23:27.51 | Kaelten | I like ubuntu |
| 23:27.58 | Coruss | my laptop is mac |
| 23:28.10 | Coruss | and all my actual life/productivity stuff is on there, along with WoW |
| 23:28.26 | ccKep | ckknight? |
| 23:28.32 | Kaelten | I have mac at the office |
| 23:28.35 | Kaelten | and its not bad. |
| 23:28.37 | ckknight | ccKep? |
| 23:28.40 | trh | Kaelten: no out of the box support for mice with more than 3 buttons, dual monitor support isn't too nice with nvidia too (it works, but setting the primary monitor to dvi is xorg.conf hacking) |
| 23:28.43 | ccKep | touristlib |
| 23:28.46 | ccKep | Eye of the Storm -> 25 man |
| 23:28.48 | ccKep | afaik its only 15 |
| 23:28.56 | ckknight | I thought it was 25 |
| 23:29.05 | ccKep | never been there, just read http://www.wowwiki.com/Eye_of_the_Storm xD |
| 23:29.16 | Amadeo | Kaelten: Buy me a PC that gets 100 fps! |
| 23:29.18 | Kaelten | although I'm running windows on parralles so I can listen to my music |
| 23:29.26 | Kaelten | Amadeo: only cost me about 1300 |
| 23:29.27 | ckknight | can anyone confirm the raid size of EotS? |
| 23:29.33 | Amadeo | Kaelten: Nice, so you have extra for mine ;) |
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| 23:29.45 | Coruss | Kaelten: why bother? iTunes can play pretty well everything you can in windows |
| 23:29.59 | Kaelten | Coruss: subscription wma's? |
| 23:30.01 | [dRaCo] | eots is 25 man |
| 23:30.14 | Coruss | Kaelten: eeewwww... why would you even pay for that? |
| 23:30.15 | ccKep | damn wiki :> |
| 23:30.20 | pub^ | is it possible to setup Aloft so that it wont draw bars for the snakes coming from the Snake Trap? :o |
| 23:30.27 | Kaelten | because its 10 bucks a month forwhatever I want to listen for |
| 23:30.34 | Kaelten | instead of a buck a trac |
| 23:30.37 | ccKep | http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/pvp/battlegrounds/eyeofthestorm/index.xml |
| 23:30.40 | ccKep | says 15 too Oo |
| 23:30.42 | Coruss | *shrug* i'm still big on buying CDs and ripping them myself |
| 23:30.53 | [dRaCo] | oh. |
| 23:30.59 | [dRaCo] | you're talking bgs |
| 23:31.02 | trh | allofmp3.com successors ftw :P |
| 23:31.05 | [dRaCo] | yeah, 15's right. |
| 23:31.05 | ccKep | yeah |
| 23:31.38 | Kaelten | 120 a year is a lot cheaper than buying all the cds I listen too |
| 23:31.45 | Coruss | Kaelten: I just need to actually 'own' something, even iTunes I can burn and re-rip to unprotected |
| 23:31.51 | mitch0 | is it possible to lock the pullout bar in Omen? |
| 23:32.04 | Antiarc|Work | Not right now, mitch0 |
| 23:32.09 | Antiarc|Work | Still a good bit of work to do on them |
| 23:32.10 | Kaelten | but that'd be limiting me to 8-10 cds of music a year |
| 23:32.21 | Coruss | eh... I buy about 1 album/month at ~10$/album |
| 23:32.36 | Kaelten | ya, I get a hair up my ass and listen to crazy shit for a few months at a time |
| 23:32.50 | Coruss | that said, I started with a 2-300 cd collection before iTunes took off |
| 23:32.56 | Kaelten | lol |
| 23:33.09 | Antiarc|Work | I just listen to internet radio. |
| 23:33.21 | Kaelten | Antiarc|Work: I tried that but I get bored of those pretty quick. |
| 23:33.24 | Coruss | as do I, electronica in the summer, metal/rock in the fall/winter, and accoustic year round |
| 23:34.03 | Coruss | Kaelten: to each his own, agree to disagree? |
| 23:34.19 | Kaelten | ya |
| 23:34.23 | Coruss | :) |
| 23:34.32 | Kaelten | I'm not a fanatic or anything, this is just my preference |
| 23:34.40 | Kaelten | I've been using urge now for the better part of a year |
| 23:34.42 | [dRaCo] | you |
| 23:34.51 | [dRaCo] | you're a zealot! |
| 23:35.06 | Kaelten | only about the finer things in life |
| 23:35.11 | [dRaCo] | he. |
| 23:35.13 | Kyahx | I prefer to just pirate what I want to hear, then pay money to go see the artist live. They make more money from a single ticket than they do a CD sale =/ |
| 23:35.26 | Kyahx | I still buy the actual CDs for bands I really like thou |
| 23:35.35 | Kyahx | Its nice to be able to hold something I spent money on :P |
| 23:35.52 | mitch0 | anti: ok. waiting with anticipation :) |
| 23:35.59 | [dRaCo] | damn. I troll too much. damn you, fisker. you're a bad role model. |
| 23:36.08 | Kaelten | ya, I don't want to ruin my family's future if I download music and get caught though |
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| 23:36.52 | Coruss | Kaelten: one of the perks of being a canadian, it's illegal to share, but not to download |
| 23:37.02 | Kaelten | lol |
| 23:37.03 | Kaelten | nice |
| 23:37.18 | Keias | Depends on your ISP in the US |
| 23:37.25 | Coruss | ya, god bless our gov's knee-jerk 'slap a tax' methodology |
| 23:37.30 | Kyahx | Well, I get most of mine from my campus' DC++ server, so its all LAN traffic |
| 23:37.46 | Kyahx | Which feels less risky atleast :P |
| 23:37.47 | Kaelten | I use comcast so I hold no illusions of privacy |
| 23:37.49 | Coruss | they put a levy on all recordable media i.e. blank cd/dvds to essentially pay for piracy |
| 23:38.00 | Keias | Yeah, Comcast has given me 3 warnings for Piracy so far |
| 23:38.01 | Keias | lol |
| 23:38.20 | Kaelten | lol |
| 23:38.21 | Kaelten | warnings? |
| 23:38.22 | Kaelten | wow |
| 23:38.26 | Keias | Yep |
| 23:38.31 | Kaelten | thats funny |
| 23:38.32 | Coruss | lol funny |
| 23:38.34 | Keias | I won't mind if they cancel my service |
| 23:38.38 | Kaelten | downloading too much porn? |
| 23:38.42 | Amadeo | how did you get piracy warnings? |
| 23:38.44 | Keias | I'll get FIOS from Verizon |
| 23:38.48 | Kaelten | FIOS? |
| 23:38.51 | Keias | Yep |
| 23:38.53 | Coruss | the ISPs here just keep upping the download limits so they don't have to deal with people who go over |
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| 23:39.38 | Amadeo | I'm curious how Comcast would even know |
| 23:39.44 | Amadeo | unless you ran your own site or something |
| 23:39.51 | Amadeo | and it was public |
| 23:40.12 | Amadeo | or hosted warez on your comcast web space :P |
| 23:40.26 | Kaelten | watching for bittorrent traffic patterns? |
| 23:40.38 | Kaelten | I'll admit though despite my lack of piracy in recent times |
| 23:40.58 | Keias | Yeah, Bittorrent traffic |
| 23:41.04 | Keias | Every. Single. Time. |
| 23:41.16 | Amadeo | were you using standard ports? |
| 23:41.27 | Keias | Yap |
| 23:41.39 | Amadeo | Interesting |
| 23:42.00 | Kyahx | I always use Azureus + Safepeer and random ports when I torrent |
| 23:42.06 | Keias | I think what it really is |
| 23:42.08 | Kyahx | Never got any warnings, but maybe I just have a lazy ISP |
| 23:42.13 | Keias | Is MPAA spying on common torrent sites |
| 23:42.18 | Keias | And reporting your IP to your ISP |
| 23:42.33 | Keias | But since I've stayed clear of more common sites, I've been fine |
| 23:42.38 | Gnarfoz | Kaelten: sr.com was back from the dead a while ago, wasn't it? |
| 23:42.42 | Keias | Places like Piratebay, Mininova, ect. |
| 23:42.51 | Kaelten | Gnarfoz: don't know havn't checked in some time |
| 23:43.05 | Kaelten | I know the guy got hounded by their form of the RIAA for a long time though |
| 23:43.08 | Xuerian | uTorrent + PeerGuardian + Demonoid.. ftw :) |
| 23:43.17 | Amadeo | I'm kinda scared of uTorrent now |
| 23:43.20 | Keias | I still use Demonoid |
| 23:43.20 | Amadeo | maybe I shouldn't be, but I am! |
| 23:43.23 | Xuerian | Older version >_> |
| 23:43.24 | Keias | No issues with that place :D |
| 23:43.31 | Kyahx | I could never get into Demonoid :( |
| 23:43.47 | Xuerian | I got in a couple years back before I knew what it was |
| 23:43.50 | Xuerian | then remembered like a month ago |
| 23:43.52 | Xuerian | XD |
| 23:43.58 | Amadeo | do they give you u/d ratios? |
| 23:43.58 | Keias | I just had someone send me an invitation |
| 23:44.03 | Keias | Not really |
| 23:44.07 | Keias | I know a few people with like |
| 23:44.09 | Xuerian | They do show it |
| 23:44.10 | Keias | No share ratio at all |
| 23:44.20 | Kyahx | Get me an invite Xuerian :P |
| 23:44.25 | Amadeo | Some private sites are unfair, I think |
| 23:44.32 | Xuerian | I think they're closed? |
| 23:44.38 | Amadeo | You can download a file that nobody wants anymore, and your ratio is screwed because of it |
| 23:44.40 | Kyahx | they are |
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| 23:49.37 | RogueShadow | Would it not be better to just buy cd'.s your friends buy cd'.s and you all share, rip. burn? |
| 23:49.48 | Keias | No |
| 23:49.52 | Keias | Because that takes longer |
| 23:49.57 | RogueShadow | lol |
| 23:50.05 | Keias | Especially since pirated music gets released online a few weeks prior to retail stores |
| 23:50.07 | RogueShadow | But you are gaurenteed' high quality. |
| 23:50.22 | RogueShadow | and less likely to get in trouble. |
| 23:50.54 | RogueShadow | unless you get leaks that are pre cd even. |
| 23:51.49 | Keias | all my trouble was with movies :( |
| 23:51.54 | NightHawkTheSane | If you know where to pirate from, you get as good a quality online as anywhere else :P |
| 23:52.28 | RogueShadow | I dunno, I try to get away from pirating, but I just wanna watch naruto .. ya know? |
| 23:53.43 | RogueShadow | Hmm. Ok, I better go and try to fix my windows installation. Fixboot, or fixmbr ya... |
| 23:53.54 | RogueShadow | I hope I don't screw up the ubuntu install also.. |
| 23:53.55 | Coruss | lol have fun |
| 23:53.59 | RogueShadow | I like it. |
| 23:54.04 | RogueShadow | But I can't play wow very well in it, |
| 23:54.08 | RogueShadow | It runs, but it's hella slow |
| 23:54.10 | RogueShadow | ATI card |
| 23:54.36 | Coruss | ick |
| 23:54.40 | Coruss | linux+nvidia ftw |
| 23:54.58 | Ominous | ye the only reason i duel boot windows now is to play wow, with music + vent a the same time |
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| 23:55.31 | Kyahx | its not hard to get music + vent + wow working in wine |
| 23:55.36 | Kyahx | use aoss |
| 23:56.20 | Ominous | well i havent got vent working in wine on my pc yet, only laptop |
| 23:56.39 | CIA-22 | 03cryect * r45328 10Recount/ (Recount.lua Recount.toc Sync.lua Tracker.lua healbuffs.lua): |
| 23:56.39 | CIA-22 | Recount - Fixed a bug with overheal syncing (results in old versions being incompatible) |
| 23:56.39 | CIA-22 | - Adds in tracking & assigning of Lifeblooms, Earth Shield, and first hit of Prayer of Mending (only |
| 23:56.39 | CIA-22 | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:56.56 | Ominous | also windows for media center + tv recording |
| 23:57.01 | RogueShadow | I'm planning on spending a lot more time in linux starting from whenever I get the duel boot to work, right now i'm locked in linux. |
| 23:57.13 | RogueShadow | but yeah, cya |
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| 23:59.23 | TecnoBrat | Probably some known or fixed issue |
| 23:59.24 | ckknight | Iron Man looks pretty cool |
| 23:59.29 | TecnoBrat | none of my Prat modules are loading |
| 23:59.34 | TecnoBrat | any fix? |
| 23:59.44 | TecnoBrat | just updated |
