| 00:07.22 | Pkekyo|cookieplz | for some reason, CraftsList2 won't print out the mail helms I can make...help? |
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| 00:10.45 | ccKep | aye, wow launcher update or something ^.^ |
| 00:13.18 | Diao | hm |
| 00:13.21 | Diao | WAU just crashed |
| 00:14.47 | Fin | uhm |
| 00:15.02 | Fin | I'm using the latest version of Prat, and I don't have any errors |
| 00:16.36 | Wobwork | ~logs |
| 00:16.37 | purl | rumour has it, logs is apt/ibot/infobot/jbot/purl all log daily to http://ibot.rikers.org/<channelname>/ where channelname is html encoded ie: %23debian | lines that start with a space are not shown | some channels have stats at http://ibot.rikers.org/stats/<channelname>.html.gz |
| 00:17.31 | Kaelten | Diao: files was down for a moment its back up now. |
| 00:17.56 | Diao | ahh ok |
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| 00:20.07 | TecnoBrat | Looks like the WAU script fucked u |
| 00:20.09 | TecnoBrat | up* |
| 00:20.17 | TecnoBrat | and didnt extract the modules dir |
| 00:20.26 | TecnoBrat | deleted Prat* |
| 00:20.29 | TecnoBrat | and reinstalled |
| 00:20.30 | TecnoBrat | and its fine |
| 00:23.09 | ccKep | nargl |
| 00:23.35 | ccKep | GetZoneText doesn't correspond with TouristLib instance names... guess I have to write my own table then -.- |
| 00:25.37 | Kaelten | what about GetRealZoneText? |
| 00:28.26 | ccKep | same |
| 00:28.40 | ccKep | GetRealZoneText and GetZoneText return "Tempest Keep" für the eye |
| 00:29.37 | Kaelten | :( |
| 00:30.22 | [dRaCo] | GetSubZoneText(); <-- |
| 00:34.24 | Funkeh` | whats with the ugly ; shit boy |
| 00:34.33 | Kaelten | lo |
| 00:34.34 | Kaelten | l |
| 00:34.54 | [dRaCo] | c&p :þ |
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| 00:37.15 | [dRaCo] | who did you stab before? |
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| 00:37.21 | NightHawkTheSane | your mom. |
| 00:37.36 | ckknight | yep, [dRaCo]'s mom |
| 00:37.47 | [dRaCo] | shouldn't have asked, I knew you'd say that. |
| 00:37.53 | Chompers | which one? |
| 00:38.08 | Amadeo | Your mom shouldn't have asked! |
| 00:38.12 | [dRaCo] | they basically said the same. |
| 00:38.38 | NightHawkTheSane | maybe he's asking which mom ckknight stabbed |
| 00:38.39 | ccKep | GetSubZoneText() -> "The Phoenix Hall" ;) |
| 00:38.49 | NightHawkTheSane | I think he's calling your mom a lesbian. |
| 00:38.58 | ckknight | just like that book |
| 00:38.58 | Chompers | bingo |
| 00:39.03 | ckknight | Heather Has Two Mommies |
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| 00:39.24 | Evansbee | Hey all, quick dogtag question |
| 00:39.25 | [dRaCo] | you guys are crazy. |
| 00:39.27 | NightHawkTheSane | Dude, are you going to let him say that about your poor, stabbed, mother? (not that there's anything wrong with that) |
| 00:39.31 | Evansbee | i'm trying to make a gridesqe tag |
| 00:39.46 | [dRaCo] | nhts: no. |
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| 00:40.01 | art3mis | dammit |
| 00:40.02 | Evansbee | so i have [MissingHP:IsGreater(1500)?MissingHP:VeryShort!Name:Trunc(5)] |
| 00:40.08 | art3mis | im got the bare naked ladies in my brain |
| 00:40.09 | Evansbee | however it always displays missing HP if there is ANY |
| 00:40.14 | Evansbee | not just over 1.5k missing |
| 00:40.20 | Evansbee | any idea what i'm missing? |
| 00:40.22 | NightHawkTheSane | art3mis: there are worse bands to have stuck in your head. |
| 00:40.28 | [dRaCo] | ~whaleslap Chompers |
| 00:40.29 | purl | ACTION beats Chompers upside and over the head with a freakishly huge killer whale named Hugh |
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| 00:40.55 | art3mis | itll still be todays til we say we're sorry |
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| 00:41.23 | NightHawkTheSane | art3mis: "two days" |
| 00:42.53 | Evansbee | Any takers on my q? |
| 00:43.25 | art3mis | yeah |
| 00:43.31 | [dRaCo] | Evansbee: dunno, looks ok |
| 00:43.41 | Evansbee | it seems to only do it on some units too :\ |
| 00:43.46 | Kaelten | anyone remember how to add something to the startup scripts on ubuntu |
| 00:43.53 | Kaelten | if memory servers it has something to do with a utility |
| 00:43.57 | art3mis | theyve got a new album out too appearantly |
| 00:44.05 | art3mis | Are Men |
| 00:44.08 | art3mis | thats the name |
| 00:44.10 | Antiarc | Hey - everyone that wanted my CowTip line tests: |
| 00:44.11 | Antiarc | textx* |
| 00:44.13 | Antiarc | texts* |
| 00:44.19 | Antiarc | http://ace.pastey.net/71605 |
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| 00:46.17 | Kyahx | They have two albums sortof, Are Men and Are Me |
| 00:46.36 | NightHawkTheSane | yarr |
| 00:46.36 | Kyahx | One was originally a bonus disc on the delux edition of the other... confusing :P |
| 00:47.48 | CIA-22 | 03ktrigger * r45329 10/branches/Numen/Numen.lua: |
| 00:47.48 | CIA-22 | Numen: |
| 00:47.48 | CIA-22 | - Working state changes. |
| 00:48.37 | dylanm_ | Antiarc: Is [GuildNote] injected by some other addon? |
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| 00:48.58 | Antiarc | No, it's a DogTag standard tag |
| 00:49.11 | dylanm_ | Ohh I'm daft. |
| 00:50.09 | dylanm_ | wiki/DogTag-1.0/Tags needs a once-over. |
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| 00:51.40 | dylanm_ | Couldn't the first line have [GuildNote:Brace] ? |
| 00:54.13 | Antiarc | Probably |
| 00:54.15 | Antiarc | <-- hack |
| 00:55.39 | CIA-22 | 03kemayo * r45330 10OpenAll/OpenAll.lua: |
| 00:55.39 | CIA-22 | OpenAll: |
| 00:55.39 | CIA-22 | -Make inventory full errors actually stop the loop. (Missing quotes.) |
| 00:56.30 | Antiarc | What's locomotive? |
| 00:56.37 | Antiarc | And I assume you're talking about Ruby on Rails? |
| 00:56.48 | Ominous | Kaelten: System --> preference --> sessions, maybe? not sure if that is what you want |
| 00:56.56 | Kaelten | I found it |
| 00:56.59 | NightHawkTheSane | Antiarc: yes, and it's an osx all-in-one thing. |
| 00:57.01 | Kaelten | I'm doing command line |
| 00:57.10 | Antiarc | Why not just install rubygems and then gem install rails? |
| 00:57.13 | NightHawkTheSane | Rails, mongrel, capistrano, and a bunch of other stuff in one application bundle. |
| 00:57.18 | Amadeo | Ruby on Rails? Kinda like Monorail Cat? |
| 00:57.18 | Kaelten | I'm probably going to end up breaking all my commit hooks with this rearrange |
| 00:57.30 | Antiarc | gem install rails, gem install mongrel, gem install capistrano |
| 00:57.31 | Antiarc | Done! |
| 00:57.32 | NightHawkTheSane | http://locomotive.raaum.org/ |
| 00:57.42 | Kaelten | gem? |
| 00:57.48 | NightHawkTheSane | yeah, but that's still more work than installing locomotive ;) |
| 00:58.04 | Antiarc | gem is like yum for rails gems. |
| 00:58.07 | Antiarc | err |
| 00:58.08 | Antiarc | Ruby gems |
| 00:58.16 | Antiarc | A gem is like an RPM |
| 00:58.18 | Amadeo | Antiarc: Hey! Before you forget...CowTip please! :D |
| 00:58.31 | Antiarc | (5:43:55 PM) Antiarc: Hey - everyone that wanted my CowTip line tests: |
| 00:58.31 | Antiarc | (5:44:04 PM) Antiarc: http://ace.pastey.net/71605 |
| 00:58.41 | Amadeo | Good thing I reminded you! |
| 00:58.41 | Kaelten | ha! |
| 00:58.58 | CIA-22 | 03gagorian * r45331 10DrDamage/ (Caster.lua DrDamage.lua Melee.lua): |
| 00:58.58 | CIA-22 | DrDamage: |
| 00:58.58 | CIA-22 | - Fixed issue that caused certain texts to disappear from the AB temporarily for warriors and druids |
| 00:58.58 | CIA-22 | - Changed avg total hit calculation for spells with dot component |
| 00:58.58 | Xuerian | Antiarc is win |
| 00:59.00 | dodgizzla | Hm |
| 00:59.18 | dodgizzla | How come Visor2GUI does not tell me the name of that PvP progress thingie |
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| 01:00.15 | break19 | hey guys |
| 01:05.05 | break19 | im thinking of changing my envenomx's events, to bucket events, or maybe just a 1s timer... since when it fires off, it has a tendency to spam "Envenom!" instead of just one line.. so I know it's using more cpu than it should be.. also.. how should I go about making it print only once every, say 5 seconds, if I use a 1s timer to check for poisons/combo points... |
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| 01:08.40 | break19 | well.. if anyone has suggestions.. /msg em to me.. I'm gonna leave the irc client on, and go to bed (as usual) so.. any insights shared might scroll off the top of my buffer before I get back up in the morning. night all |
| 01:09.18 | Necrathex | increase scrollback buffer? :) |
| 01:11.12 | dodgizzla | Hm, WorldStateCaptureBar cannot be moved anymore? :\ |
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| 01:11.41 | *** mode/#wowace [+v Antiarc] by ChanServ |
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| 01:16.44 | CIA-22 | 03speeddymon * r45332 10CooldownTimers2/ (7 files): |
| 01:16.44 | CIA-22 | CooldownTimers2: |
| 01:16.44 | CIA-22 | - Added preliminary Waterfall GUI support. The current GUI is setup the same as you would have seen it in Niagara, prior to this patch. |
| 01:18.53 | Arrowmaster | ckknight: in ace2, when ondisable is called are just events registered during onenable unregistered or is it an unregisterallevents, and does the unregistering happen before or after the ondisable function is called? |
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| 01:24.48 | RogueShadow | yay, I have success |
| 01:26.21 | Speeddymon | RogueShadow: so your dual-boot works now? |
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| 01:26.57 | Gagorian | Arrowmaster: Everything is unregistered.. and it does happen before OnDisable |
| 01:27.11 | RogueShadow | yep |
| 01:27.13 | RogueShadow | I fixed it |
| 01:27.14 | dnmcgoy | is there a problem with calling a SetBindingClick on something that inherits from ActionBarButtonTemplate? |
| 01:27.18 | RogueShadow | I had 2 big problems |
| 01:27.34 | dnmcgoy | (since ActionBarButtonTemplate inherits from SecureActionButtonTemplate) |
| 01:27.40 | Speeddymon | Which loader u using? LILO or GRUB? |
| 01:27.46 | RogueShadow | 1st: My bootloader was installed on my first hard disk, which is why I had such trouble when I told linux to take my whole first hd. |
| 01:27.47 | RogueShadow | grub |
| 01:28.04 | Speeddymon | ahh |
| 01:28.09 | RogueShadow | 2nd, I didn't have grub re-map my hd's to trick windows into thinking it was on the master drive. |
| 01:28.17 | Speeddymon | lol ya thats a problem |
| 01:28.28 | RogueShadow | 1st: the bootloader i'm talking about is ntldr |
| 01:28.38 | Antiarc | http://img519.imageshack.us/img519/2199/cowtipey3.png |
| 01:28.39 | Antiarc | >_> |
| 01:29.04 | RogueShadow | I don't have a boot.ini file anymore, but it booted fine without it. I'll just make one to get the error message to shut up on boot |
| 01:30.15 | Amadeo | Antiarc: That a new one? |
| 01:30.19 | Antiarc | Tweaked, yes |
| 01:30.27 | Amadeo | nice |
| 01:32.24 | Bejitt | anyone know what Template:UI.WoW is supposed to link to? o.O |
| 01:34.56 | RogueShadow | Antiarc: nice. |
| 01:35.00 | CIA-22 | 03syntherift * r45333 10/branches/Numen/NumenData.lua: |
| 01:35.00 | CIA-22 | Numen: |
| 01:35.00 | CIA-22 | - Added database file. |
| 01:35.42 | ckknight | Arrowmaster: it's an unregisterallevents |
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| 01:36.48 | Amadeo | brb |
| 01:37.03 | pinklestein | hi |
| 01:37.08 | pinklestein | people with @ on? |
| 01:37.23 | ckknight | yea |
| 01:37.42 | Funkeh` | someone stole mine |
| 01:37.49 | Funkeh` | bastards |
| 01:37.56 | Gagorian | I seem to be missing mine.. *shrugs* |
| 01:38.02 | ckknight | btw, Antiarc: [GuildNote?Text( {)][GuildNote][GuildNote?Text(})] would be better as [GuildNote:Brace:Prefix( )], imho |
| 01:38.08 | RogueShadow | Mine is a lil tree menu that says "Ops" |
| 01:38.09 | Funkeh` | shut it AA scum |
| 01:38.20 | Gagorian | AA > all |
| 01:39.24 | RogueShadow | Everything is easier in linux, except playing games... geez, I need to just grow up. or at least get an nvida card to make it easier |
| 01:39.30 | Antiarc | Okay, great |
| 01:41.34 | Speeddymon | hehe least you said nvidia |
| 01:41.47 | Speeddymon | get Cedega.. or wine.. |
| 01:42.08 | Speeddymon | either is good at playing games, cedega being able to run more since it is designed for it |
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| 01:43.28 | Diao | hm |
| 01:43.33 | Diao | i'm getting errors with assessment |
| 01:43.33 | CIA-22 | 03nemes * r45334 10NShakedown/Addons/PitBull.lua: NShakedown: unlock PitBull frames |
| 01:44.11 | Diao | http://ace.pastey.net/71611 |
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| 01:45.28 | Roartindon | durcyn: ping |
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| 01:47.06 | Speeddymon | Guys, I dont see any easy way to get to MY PM's from the forums.. In order to check mine, I had to go into the forums, and look at another members' profile, and then hit send message, and then hit inbox on the left |
| 01:47.35 | pakoz | yo |
| 01:47.41 | Speeddymon | thx for the permission roar btw |
| 01:48.03 | pakoz | does anyone know if bigwigs has an attunemen curse time bar? |
| 01:48.11 | CIA-22 | 03roartindon * r45335 10Assessment/Modules/Deaths.lua: |
| 01:48.11 | CIA-22 | Assessment |
| 01:48.11 | CIA-22 | - Hopefully fixed error in Death.lua |
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| 01:48.26 | Gagorian | Speeddymon: Upper right corner of forums? At least I can click You have "x messages" |
| 01:48.44 | Speeddymon | that option was never given to me |
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| 01:50.26 | Roartindon | Speeddymon: At the top right of the forums, I have a box, which says "You have # messages, # are new" |
| 01:50.31 | Roartindon | And clicking on that takes me to my inbox |
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| 01:56.18 | Diao | massive errors |
| 01:56.22 | Diao | with assessment :( |
| 01:56.48 | Funkeh` | didn't you say that already |
| 01:56.52 | Roartindon | Diao: With Death.lua? |
| 01:57.01 | Funkeh` | and since then you have provided 0 useful information |
| 01:57.28 | Diao | let me see again |
| 01:57.38 | Roartindon | Diao: r45335 should fix it |
| 01:57.47 | Roartindon | (Committed ~10 minutes ago) |
| 01:58.07 | Diao | updated when i saw CIA message but i guess it didn't propagate yet |
| 01:59.26 | Roartindon | Diao: It should be available within the next 10 minutes |
| 01:59.34 | Roartindon | Diao: What error message are you getting? |
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| 02:00.04 | Diao | sec |
| 02:00.44 | CIA-22 | 03grayhoof * r45336 10Proximo/ (7 files): |
| 02:00.44 | CIA-22 | Proximo: 1.11 pre-release |
| 02:00.45 | CIA-22 | - Added Key Bindings. |
| 02:00.45 | CIA-22 | - Added slightly faded color and sound when clicking a frame for an enemy that was added during combat. |
| 02:00.58 | Diao | same as the other one except it's with "health" instead of "amount" now |
| 02:01.05 | Diao | r45226\Modules\Deaths.lua:426: attempt to perform arithmetic on local 'health' (a nil value) |
| 02:01.59 | Roartindon | Diao: Yeah, taht'll be fixed in 45335 |
| 02:02.04 | Diao | ok |
| 02:02.12 | Fin | Kemayo: mind if I add a nil check to a line in QuestsFu? |
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| 02:06.36 | dodgizzla | Meh, I tried SMM, Visor, moveFrames and KC_Mobility. None are able to move the Capture Bar :\ |
| 02:06.42 | dodgizzla | Blizzard brokes it :\ |
| 02:07.53 | Nemes_ | use discordframemodifier to move the capture bar |
| 02:08.17 | Nemes_ | the capture bar must be up in order for you to be able to add it to the list, but it does successfully move it and keep it there |
| 02:08.33 | Nemes_ | http://tetzfamily.com/eric/gaming/wow/Discord/ |
| 02:10.06 | dodgizzla | I tried all addons while in EotS at a tower, so the bar was there |
| 02:10.22 | dodgizzla | Also, it worked with simpleMinimap until some patches ago |
| 02:10.29 | Nemes_ | ^ only discordframemodifier has worked for me |
| 02:11.02 | dodgizzla | Maybe it has the magic sauce? |
| 02:11.49 | Nemes_ | magic sauce is just mayonaise that has been left out in the sun |
| 02:12.05 | dodgizzla | Yummy. |
| 02:12.22 | dodgizzla | Just from the looks of it.. DFM better be workin :P |
| 02:12.40 | Nemes_ | DFM and Bagnon are the only two nonace addons I use |
| 02:12.43 | dodgizzla | Because it sure looks like a lot of code to move some frames |
| 02:12.43 | Kemayo | Fin: What line? |
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| 02:13.32 | ccKep | does bigwigs provide some event when a boss is engaged? :o |
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| 02:15.04 | dodgizzla | ccKep: It prints a message when a boss is engaged. |
| 02:15.13 | Diao | searches for player_regen_disabled or something doesn't it |
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| 02:25.03 | CIA-22 | 03grayhoof * r45337 10sct/ (8 files in 3 dirs): |
| 02:25.03 | CIA-22 | sct: |
| 02:25.03 | CIA-22 | - Added optional EavesDrop style spell icons. |
| 02:25.03 | CIA-22 | - Added person killed to killing blows |
| 02:25.03 | CIA-22 | - Added damage filter |
| 02:25.04 | CIA-22 | - Custom Target Debuff events should now only fire from your debuffs |
| 02:25.06 | CIA-22 | - Made all font sizes change 1 step at a time |
| 02:25.35 | CIA-22 | 03grayhoof * r45338 10sct_options/ (localization.lua options.lua options.xml options_setup.lua): |
| 02:25.35 | CIA-22 | sct_options: |
| 02:25.35 | CIA-22 | - Added optional EavesDrop style spell icons. |
| 02:25.35 | CIA-22 | - Added person killed to killing blows |
| 02:25.36 | CIA-22 | - Added damage filter |
| 02:25.38 | CIA-22 | - Custom Target Debuff events should now only fire from your debuffs |
| 02:25.40 | CIA-22 | - Made all font sizes change 1 step at a time |
| 02:26.09 | CIA-22 | 03grayhoof * r45339 10sctd/sctd.lua: |
| 02:26.09 | CIA-22 | sctd: |
| 02:26.09 | CIA-22 | - Uses spell icons from SCT is enabled |
| 02:26.09 | CIA-22 | - Added Damage Shields as an optional event |
| 02:26.09 | CIA-22 | - Added Outgoing Damage Filter (separate from SCT's) |
| 02:26.09 | CIA-22 | - Made all font sizes change 1 step at a time |
| 02:26.31 | CIA-22 | 03grayhoof * r45340 10sctd_options/ (localization.de.lua localization.lua options.lua options.xml): |
| 02:26.31 | CIA-22 | sctd_options: |
| 02:26.31 | CIA-22 | - Uses spell icons from SCT is enabled |
| 02:26.31 | CIA-22 | - Added Damage Shields as an optional event |
| 02:26.32 | CIA-22 | - Added Outgoing Damage Filter (separate from SCT's) |
| 02:26.34 | CIA-22 | - Made all font sizes change 1 step at a time |
| 02:27.59 | ckknight | lol, only by Parrot adding icons did sct add them |
| 02:28.24 | ckknight | I bet that if Parrot didn't have em, SCT wouldn't have em either |
| 02:28.33 | ckknight | well, grayhoof wouldn't've added em |
| 02:29.11 | Diao | lol |
| 02:29.40 | JoshBorke | see, competition is a good thing |
| 02:29.46 | Antiarc | Competition is great |
| 02:29.47 | JoshBorke | makes everyone improve |
| 02:29.49 | dodgizzla | ckknight: Make it so officer/raid leader can send stuff to other people using Parrot :D |
| 02:30.02 | ckknight | ...why? |
| 02:30.06 | dodgizzla | Then I could send 3 - 2 - 1 - PULL in sticky to their notification area :> |
| 02:30.10 | dodgizzla | uhm.. for great justice? :D |
| 02:30.34 | ckknight | I might add chat stuff to Parrot |
| 02:30.35 | ckknight | ...later |
| 02:30.51 | dodgizzla | Before hell freezes over? :D |
| 02:31.01 | Antiarc | dodgizzla: That'd be trivial with a SinkLib addon |
| 02:31.08 | Roartindon | dodgizzla: sounds like that'd be more ImprovedRWF updated to use Sink |
| 02:31.25 | Roartindon | dodgizzla: so the raid leader uses /rw 3, /rw 2, /rw 1, /rw Pull |
| 02:31.33 | dodgizzla | Yeah actually I want to show really big letters, so maybe chat won't cut it :> |
| 02:31.47 | Roartindon | And if they want it appearing in parrot instead of /rw, ImprovedRWF should output it via sink |
| 02:32.11 | dodgizzla | Whaddaya mean, if they want it :P |
| 02:32.19 | dodgizzla | I'll make them install KTM 2 and force it! :> |
| 02:32.29 | Roartindon | Well, otherwise they'll see it over /rw |
| 02:32.34 | Roartindon | then it becomes their choice where they see it |
| 02:32.40 | Roartindon | but they'll get it |
| 02:33.36 | dodgizzla | I think if one adds a "fun element" to pulling our raids would probably be faster |
| 02:33.58 | Diao | ktm2 o_O |
| 02:34.01 | Antiarc | ckknight: Requesting CowTip feature to color the border to match the background |
| 02:34.13 | ckknight | hrm, not a bad idea |
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| 02:38.18 | Antiarc | ckknight: Another idea: Maybe faded coloring of a tooltip between two colors based on some condition |
| 02:38.28 | Antiarc | Maybe using a DogTag expression for a percentage |
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| 02:45.54 | CIA-22 | 03nemes * r45341 10FuBar_GarbageFu/ (5 files): |
| 02:45.54 | CIA-22 | FuBar_GarbageFu: add options: |
| 02:45.54 | CIA-22 | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:45.54 | CIA-22 | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:50.01 | Antiarc | Is there any kind of stub addon that will let me write little event handlers and stuff in game without the need for a full addon? |
| 02:51.32 | JoshBorke | no, event handler is easy |
| 02:52.31 | Antiarc | Well, I want to write little scripts that will load and run every time |
| 02:53.06 | JoshBorke | local handlers = { ["PLAYER_LOGIN"] = function() ChatFrame1:AddMessage("Adrine is a n00b") end, }; local f = CreateFrame("Frame"); f:SetScript("OnEvent", function(f, event, ...) if handlers[event] then handlers[event](...) end end) |
| 02:53.18 | JoshBorke | luapad supports running scripts on login |
| 02:53.35 | dodgizzla | Diao: I heard KTM2 will have the "feature" to send/receive Lua code, so that modules can be sent ingame |
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| 02:54.08 | Roartindon | dodgizzla: That'll be fun when someone decides to write the ktm2 virus |
| 02:54.25 | Roartindon | dodgizzla: That sets your MT threat to half of what it should be.. |
| 02:54.45 | Diao | sounds like rdx |
| 02:54.46 | Diao | or whatever |
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| 02:55.41 | dodgizzla | Actually it would be possible to remotely disconnect people that use it. Or even worse :D |
| 02:55.49 | dodgizzla | A shame that /split does no longer work |
| 02:55.54 | Antiarc | You can lock their clients remotely. |
| 02:56.23 | dodgizzla | That's even better than disconnecting :D |
| 02:56.24 | JoshBorke | local handlers = {} local f = CreateFrame("Frame"); local regEvent = f.RegisterEvent; f.RegisterEvent = function(self, event, handler) if handler then handlers[event] = handler end regEvent(f, event) end; f:SetScript("OnEvent", function(f, event, ...) if handlers[event] then handlers[event]() else <do stuff> end end) |
| 02:56.49 | Wobwork | KTM2? |
| 02:56.52 | Wobwork | Do I want to know? |
| 02:56.55 | Antiarc | KTM 20.x series. |
| 02:57.18 | Wobwork | "Now with racing stripes"? |
| 02:57.25 | dodgizzla | Oooh, racing stripes |
| 02:57.27 | dodgizzla | I'd buy it |
| 02:57.32 | Roartindon | Antiarc: Wait till someone writes the 'sell all equipment to vendor' ktm virus |
| 02:57.36 | Roartindon | imagine that |
| 02:57.44 | Antiarc | Roartindon: It doesn't have access to the stock _G |
| 02:57.47 | Roartindon | I don't ever want remote code execution in any of my addons... |
| 02:58.00 | Antiarc | So not so possible unless Kenco exposes a path to _G from the tables he's passing in |
| 02:58.38 | Roartindon | Antiarc: Hmm.. so he chooses a limited subset of methods that are available? |
| 02:58.40 | dodgizzla | He will find a way. I'm confident. |
| 02:58.42 | Wobwork | my.addon = _G |
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| 03:00.42 | Antiarc | Roartindon: right |
| 03:02.04 | JoshBorke | night all |
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| 03:05.31 | CIA-22 | 03funkydude * r45342 10BigWigs/ (10 files in 5 dirs): BigWigs: random tweaks |
| 03:09.00 | ZealotOnAStick | Funky, how do you get the wave timers on the Hyjal fights? |
| 03:09.23 | Funkeh` | ZealotOnAStick: i don't make that addon, nor have i tested it :) |
| 03:09.39 | ZealotOnAStick | erhm, what addon is it? It's not part of BigWigs? |
| 03:09.39 | Thelyna | what's the command to set void reaver's knockaway to 80% in KTM? |
| 03:09.53 | Funkeh` | ZealotOnAStick: its an external bigwigs addon |
| 03:10.33 | Funkeh` | Thelyna: i don't think ktm has the ability to change modifiers with key commands |
| 03:10.46 | ccKep | speaking of bigwigs... |
| 03:10.50 | ZealotOnAStick | Funkeh`: which mod would that be? I don't see anything mentioning it on files. |
| 03:11.00 | ccKep | does http://ace.pastey.net/71613 work as expected? (don't have a raid to test it atm ^.^) |
| 03:11.02 | Funkeh` | ZealotOnAStick: wave timers or something |
| 03:11.49 | CIA-22 | 03sylvanaar * r45343 10Prat/Prat_Modules/modules/CustomFilters.lua: Prat: Suggested changes per: http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=6243.msg125905#msg125905 |
| 03:11.56 | Funkeh` | ccKep: not every boss uses a validate engage sync, only bosses without starting yells |
| 03:12.23 | ccKep | is there a way to determine if a boss has been engaged using bigwigs events? |
| 03:12.38 | ZealotOnAStick | Funkeh`: ah, there it is. Thanks. |
| 03:14.48 | Funkeh` | ccKep: not since i last checked |
| 03:15.20 | ccKep | meh |
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| 03:16.38 | ccKep | gonna loop through Babble-Boss and check UnitAffectingCombat I think |
| 03:16.39 | Roartindon | hmm... files.wowace.com doesn't seem to be updating |
| 03:17.09 | Roartindon | Commits from over 1.5 hours ago haven't made it into .zips yet |
| 03:17.33 | NightHawkTheSane | "That means no cell phones, no fax machines, not another living soul for miles. We'll be unavailable, inaccessible." "Incommunicado." "Minnesota, sir." "I stand corrected." |
| 03:21.17 | NightHawkTheSane | "There appears to be no fish her, O'Neill." "T, it's not about the actual fish themselves. Fish are not important in this context. It's about fish*ing*, the act of fishing itself." |
| 03:21.23 | NightHawkTheSane | here* |
| 03:22.47 | Roartindon | ccKep: "BossEngaged" message? |
| 03:24.20 | Roartindon | event: BigWigs_RecvSync, sync = "BossEngaged" ? |
| 03:24.24 | ccKep | "BossEngaged" is module:GetEngageSync(), which is then checked in :ValidateEngageSync |
| 03:24.30 | ccKep | thats what I basically do there |
| 03:24.38 | Funkeh` | ccKep: you could probably register BigWigs_Message and :find Engaged |
| 03:24.56 | ccKep | doesn't seem like every module sends an engage sync? |
| 03:25.18 | Funkeh` | no but nearly every module has an engaged message |
| 03:25.38 | Roartindon | ccKep: Doesn't it dop it in the Prototype.lua? |
| 03:25.41 | Roartindon | CheckForengage? |
| 03:26.01 | Funkeh` | Roartindon: no, we don't register that in every module |
| 03:26.09 | Roartindon | Funkeh`: ah |
| 03:26.22 | Roartindon | Funkeh`: I guess some bosses start with yells/etc? |
| 03:26.26 | ccKep | Roartindon: modules have to RegisterEvent("PLAYER_REGEN_DISABLED", "CheckForEngage") |
| 03:26.27 | Funkeh` | yeah |
| 03:26.36 | ccKep | kael for example starts with "Power.... blah" |
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| 03:27.35 | NightHawkTheSane | power overwhelming! |
| 03:28.01 | ccKep | maybe a bit crappy, but it'll work I guess http://ace.pastey.net/71615 |
| 03:28.21 | ccKep | (missing the actual code, but you get the idea) |
| 03:28.39 | Roartindon | ccKep: Is hte first UnitExists necessary? |
| 03:28.41 | Funkeh` | ccKep just register BigWigs_Message and arg:find 'Engaged' |
| 03:28.55 | Roartindon | Since the 2nd one checks the first one implicitly? |
| 03:29.10 | ccKep | well, PLAYER_REGEN_DISABLED does get called when not in a raid |
| 03:29.14 | ccKep | didn't test though... |
| 03:29.24 | ccKep | guess its not neccessary |
| 03:29.35 | ccKep | atleast it shouldnt |
| 03:29.41 | Roartindon | And a UnitAffectingCombat check? |
| 03:29.55 | Roartindon | ie. to make sure that if you are clearing trash |
| 03:29.56 | ccKep | doing that now |
| 03:30.01 | Roartindon | and someone else has the boss targetted |
| 03:30.04 | Roartindon | it doesn't trigger |
| 03:30.12 | ccKep | yay |
| 03:31.32 | Funkeh` | im not sure how thats better than just scanning for engaged messages |
| 03:31.52 | ccKep | I don't have to rely on engage messages |
| 03:31.57 | Roartindon | Funkeh`: External addon independence? |
| 03:31.59 | ccKep | don't want to check if every boss has one |
| 03:32.33 | Roartindon | ccKep: Hmm. does that produce locale errors that code |
| 03:32.39 | Roartindon | if you have a non-boss targetted? |
| 03:32.46 | Roartindon | HasTranslate() instead of lookup? |
| 03:33.06 | Roartindon | :HasTranslation |
| 03:33.22 | CIA-22 | 03funkydude * r45344 10BigWigs_Naxxramas/ (5 files): BigWigs_Naxxramas: cleanups & tweaks |
| 03:33.35 | ccKep | changing it a bit currently |
| 03:33.51 | Morghus | For some reason Mangle persists as a debuff in Chronometer, even though the target is dead. Only debuff I have seen so far that does it |
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| 03:34.46 | Jaxon | Apparently Ebonroc is really annoying when you only have two tanks. |
| 03:34.48 | ccKep | http://ace.pastey.net/71616 |
| 03:35.04 | ccKep | guess I'm gonne use that |
| 03:35.33 | Roartindon | ccKep: I don't think UnitExists() takes unit names? only unit ids? |
| 03:35.40 | ccKep | argh |
| 03:35.42 | Roartindon | same with UnitAffectingCombat |
| 03:35.45 | ckknight | just ids |
| 03:35.51 | ccKep | "raid"..n.."target" there, copy&paste :D |
| 03:35.58 | ccKep | 5:35 AM here -.- |
| 03:36.13 | Roartindon | ccKep: heh.. :) let me try... |
| 03:36.39 | CIA-22 | 03sayclub * r45345 10Proximo/localization-koKR.lua: |
| 03:36.39 | CIA-22 | Proximo : |
| 03:36.39 | CIA-22 | - Updated localization koKR |
| 03:37.10 | ccKep | if boss and UnitExists("raid"..n.."target") and UnitAffectingCombat("raid"..n.."target") then << |
| 03:37.21 | Roartindon | ccKep: Something like this? http://ace.pastey.net/71617 |
| 03:37.45 | Roartindon | I believe UnitAffectingCombat will return nil if the unit doesn't exist, so I didn't even bother with UnitExists |
| 03:37.46 | ccKep | what does :HasReverseTranslation do? |
| 03:38.03 | Roartindon | ccKep: It returns true if a reverse translation exists |
| 03:38.24 | Roartindon | eg. if I'm playing on a non-enUS client, and I'm fighting boss "Blah", and in english, it's "ccKep" |
| 03:38.56 | Roartindon | if BB["ccKep"] = "Blah", then HasReverseTranslation("Blah") returns true |
| 03:39.06 | ccKep | ah, kay |
| 03:39.07 | ccKep | thanks =) |
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| 03:39.38 | Speeddymon | omg i think the login server is down |
| 03:39.49 | Kyahx | I think your right |
| 03:39.55 | Speeddymon | the one time i make a chance to the toc and now i cant get in this SUX |
| 03:40.02 | Speeddymon | change* |
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| 03:43.05 | Speeddymon | grrr |
| 03:43.09 | Speeddymon | stupid nic |
| 03:44.54 | Morghus | Would it be my computer that is slow, or the loading of terrain ( server-side/code ) that's slow? I keep experiencing that I fly in in full speed, see no evil, land and promptly get pounced 4 seconds later by a million mobs that's popping |
| 03:45.36 | Speeddymon | prob the computer |
| 03:45.47 | Speeddymon | loading of the terrain is done by your comp |
| 03:45.57 | Speeddymon | well.. |
| 03:46.05 | Speeddymon | if mobs arent showing up thats your internet connection |
| 03:46.09 | Morghus | Err... sorry *the loading of the objects |
| 03:46.24 | Speeddymon | np |
| 03:46.29 | Funkeh` | heh i get that when logging in |
| 03:46.38 | Morghus | My internet connection's pretty good, ms at less than 100 |
| 03:46.42 | Speeddymon | hmm |
| 03:46.46 | Funkeh` | everything loads, my ui, everything around me, but my character takes about 10 seconds to show up |
| 03:46.52 | Funkeh` | i can move and such its just invisible |
| 03:46.58 | Speeddymon | on login is one thing.. thats the game loading everything non-ui into memory |
| 03:47.32 | Speeddymon | but if you are in the air and then go to land and the mobs dont appear until after you land, thats most likely an internet lag hiccup |
| 03:47.58 | Speeddymon | unless you are really really high up, and then maybe the game loading the new objects into memory |
| 03:48.22 | art3mis | hrm wierd |
| 03:48.32 | art3mis | guess the servers are hooped |
| 03:48.39 | art3mis | really slow to connect |
| 03:49.00 | Speeddymon | damn finally got connected to wow again |
| 03:49.16 | Speeddymon | i was stuck at authenticating a bit ago.. anyone else? |
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| 03:57.12 | Roartindon | Speeddymon: Yeah, I'm stuck authing too |
| 03:58.22 | art3mis | lame tom snyder died yesterday |
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| 03:58.41 | Comxx|AFK | ckknight: i see that grayhoof added stuff like Parrot hehe |
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| 04:02.55 | Fin | sylvanaar: heya |
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| 04:08.56 | CIA-22 | 03wobin * r45346 10FuBar_HeyFu/Core.lua: FuBar_HeyFu: Switched the check around so it puts people on timer response even if they're sending back their own DnD message from the addon |
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| 04:17.08 | ccKep | hmpf |
| 04:17.19 | ccKep | do I have to reinitialize AceOO stuff every zone change? |
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| 04:19.53 | Comxx | Antiarc ypu there ? |
| 04:20.01 | Prophh | any mod out there that announces Striders/tainted spawns for Vash fight? |
| 04:20.03 | Comxx | you* |
| 04:20.24 | Antiarc | Yeah |
| 04:21.03 | Comxx | y Hemlock the the make 2 poison again =\ |
| 04:21.41 | Antiarc | I have no idea what'd cause that, apart from another mod doing things to the tradeskill window |
| 04:22.08 | Neebler | does the *** *** around a persons name on Proximo mean they're stealth/invis or sheeped? or both? |
| 04:22.47 | Comxx | hmm if del the Cache works fine till i log off |
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| 04:25.40 | Comxx | Antiarc: there more then me http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=3789.120 |
| 04:26.01 | ckknight | ccKep: shouldn't have to |
| 04:26.16 | ckknight | Comxx: hehe, yea, Grayhoof stole Parrot's ideas, competition, eh? |
| 04:26.50 | Comxx | im stay with Parrot and not going back =) |
| 04:27.24 | Wobwork | Didn't Parrot steal the whole concept from SCT? =P |
| 04:27.37 | Funkeh` | indeed] |
| 04:27.37 | Comxx | and evenone that uses my addon pack will to =) |
| 04:27.46 | Funkeh` | fucking thieves both of you |
| 04:28.01 | Antiarc | Comxx: What other addons do you run? |
| 04:28.16 | Jaxon | And wasn't SCT just an improvment over the client's built implimentation? |
| 04:28.29 | Wobwork | Not really |
| 04:28.34 | Wobwork | the client didn't have sct |
| 04:28.38 | dodgizzla | IIRC SCT was the first addon to do stuff like that |
| 04:28.48 | Wobwork | the closest was the numbers over the unitframe |
| 04:28.51 | dodgizzla | Than came MSBT, Blizzards crap and finally Parrot |
| 04:28.57 | ccKep | man, I'm not getting it I think |
| 04:29.11 | Jaxon | The client has always done damge over the target, drawn over the model in the engine. |
| 04:29.40 | dodgizzla | That's kinda different to what SCT et al do |
| 04:29.41 | Wobwork | I've used SCT for so long now, I can't recall =P |
| 04:29.44 | Antiarc | Not in a fixed position relative to the UI though |
| 04:29.55 | Comxx | nothing that haas to do with the tradeskillwindow Antiarc |
| 04:30.08 | Antiarc | Comxx: Well, obviously it does, since it works fine for me here :P |
| 04:30.09 | Diao | SCT showed incoming damage |
| 04:30.11 | Diao | which the client never did |
| 04:30.12 | Diao | originally |
| 04:30.18 | Wobwork | true that |
| 04:30.26 | Wobwork | the incoming damage showed up over your portrait |
| 04:30.30 | ckknight | good artists copy, great artists steal |
| 04:30.37 | ckknight | I steal ;-) |
| 04:30.39 | Wobwork | well no |
| 04:30.43 | Wobwork | great artists innovate |
| 04:30.43 | ckknight | and improve |
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| 04:30.52 | CIA-22 | 03ktrigger * r45347 10/branches/Numen/Numen.lua: |
| 04:30.52 | CIA-22 | Numen: |
| 04:30.52 | CIA-22 | - Added dynamically created bars. |
| 04:30.52 | ckknight | it's Picasso's quote, Wobwork |
| 04:31.03 | Wobwork | doesn't make it right =) |
| 04:31.38 | Wobwork | Most famous artists also never made it til they were dead |
| 04:31.58 | Funkeh` | ckknight i stole your moms virginity does that make me great? |
| 04:32.10 | CIA-22 | 03speeddymon * r45348 10CooldownTimers2/ (6 files): |
| 04:32.10 | CIA-22 | CooldownTimers2: |
| 04:32.10 | CIA-22 | - Added a Changelog |
| 04:32.10 | CIA-22 | - Renamed the menu file again, this time to Options.lua |
| 04:32.10 | CIA-22 | - Moved all options and options-related functions to Options.lua |
| 04:32.11 | CIA-22 | - Changed default maximum time limit to 5 mins |
| 04:32.15 | ckknight | merely makes you a liar |
| 04:32.21 | Wobwork | no it could make you ck's dad though |
| 04:32.31 | ckknight | no, he's doing the dishes |
| 04:32.38 | Wobwork | for all you know =) |
| 04:32.52 | Comxx | if TradeSkillFrame and TradeSkillFrame:IsVisible() then |
| 04:32.52 | Comxx | CastSpellByName(self.poisonSpellName) |
| 04:32.52 | Comxx | end |
| 04:33.03 | Comxx | opps |
| 04:33.07 | Wobwork | He could be texting into IRC as Funkeh by palmpilot |
| 04:33.20 | Funkeh` | palmpilot rofl |
| 04:33.38 | ccKep | ckknight: mind if I pm you? guess I have some understanding problem here -.- |
| 04:34.02 | ckknight | go ahead |
| 04:35.35 | Comxx | Antiarc: when i looked at you Code and tryed to fix it i removed this http://ace.pastey.net/71619 |
| 04:35.52 | Comxx | it work fine |
| 04:36.22 | Comxx | but the tradewindow had to be open |
| 04:36.53 | NightHawkTheSane | Wobwork: "Whenever possible, steal code." :P |
| 04:38.10 | Antiarc | Comxx: It works without flaw in my setup. That tells me you have another addon interfering with it. If I can find out what that is, I'll fix it then. |
| 04:38.36 | Comxx | kk i do that =) |
| 04:38.42 | Antiarc | Band-aiding problems without knowing the cause is bad juju. |
| 04:39.00 | Comxx | hehe k |
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| 04:42.27 | CIA-22 | 03cryect * r45349 10Recount/Tracker.lua: Recount - Bug fix so it no longer constantly errors on heals |
| 04:43.11 | Comxx | Antiarc should i del the Cache frist or turn all my addons the del it |
| 04:43.32 | Antiarc | Addons |
| 04:43.51 | Comxx | k |
| 04:45.14 | disi | say is it possible to open a socket from wow? |
| 04:45.23 | Wobwork | nope |
| 04:45.30 | Wobwork | Wow is self contained |
| 04:45.46 | disi | but you can call a executable? |
| 04:46.31 | Antiarc | No. |
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| 04:47.45 | disi | alright, then i need to create a 3. party tool wo downloads the actual files, thanks a lot :) |
| 04:48.00 | Comxx | i hope you will be for abit it me a long time to go through my addon one by one lol |
| 04:48.48 | zeeg | http://www.curse.com/videos/details/497/ |
| 04:50.53 | Wobwork | Comxx: do it in a binary fashion |
| 04:51.10 | Wobwork | disable half, test, if it works, disable half of the remaining etc etc |
| 04:51.50 | Chompers | 05:51am |
| 04:51.59 | Chompers | again...nooo :< |
| 04:52.06 | ckknight | hey zeeg, what're you doing here? |
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| 04:52.18 | zeeg | i joined for some reason the other day |
| 04:52.25 | zeeg | my irc client autojoins the last chans I was in so :P |
| 04:52.35 | zeeg | oh, when i was doing the ace page on curse |
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| 04:52.49 | ckknight | hrm? |
| 04:53.02 | zeeg | http://downloads.curse.com/ace/ |
| 04:53.03 | zeeg | that one |
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| 04:54.36 | fireglow | goodmorning everyone |
| 04:54.46 | Mecdemort | is there a way to give files different change messages when commiting? |
| 04:55.29 | Comxx | Antiarc: Error: Interface\Addons\Hemlock\Hemlock.lua596: invalid trade skill item in settradeskillitem(index[,reagent]) |
| 04:55.41 | Comxx | that with not no addons my hemlock |
| 04:55.51 | Comxx | and it was scaning |
| 04:56.28 | CIA-22 | 03mecdemort * r45350 10BigWigs_WaveTimers/ (BigWigs_WaveTimers.toc Core.lua WaveTimers.lua): BigWigs_WaveTimers: - Adjusted wave times. Removed unnecessary optdeps and x-embeds. |
| 04:56.52 | CIA-22 | 03speeddymon * r45351 10CooldownTimers2/ (8 files in 2 dirs): |
| 04:56.52 | CIA-22 | CooldownTimers2: |
| 04:56.52 | CIA-22 | - Moved Locale files to their own folder |
| 04:57.13 | Comxx | that with no addons run but hemlock* |
| 04:58.03 | Comxx | and it stop scaning |
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| 05:04.53 | Jaxon | We are doing nef and I need to quickly figure out how to unequip my crossbow in a macro. |
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| 05:09.16 | Heri1 | http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=6881.msg125824#msg125824 |
| 05:09.21 | Heri1 | omg comments |
| 05:10.10 | Wobwork | Jaxon the fastest way I can think of is to /equip a grey weapon |
| 05:10.46 | Jaxon | Wobwork: well, we just cleared stage 1 so that isn't an option |
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| 05:12.07 | ccKep | dunno if it works: |
| 05:12.10 | ccKep | /script PickupInventoryItem(GetInventorySlotInfo("MainHandSlot")) |
| 05:12.13 | ccKep | /script PickupContainerItem(bagId, slotId) |
| 05:12.20 | ccKep | replace bagid and slotid ^ |
| 05:12.31 | Jaxon | That'll pick up my axe, but yeah, thanks |
| 05:12.33 | ccKep | and mainhandslot ofc |
| 05:12.46 | ccKep | well, thats not my code ;) |
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| 05:12.51 | ccKep | !api PickupInventoryItem |
| 05:12.52 | ThraeBot | ccKep: /script PickupInventoryItem(GetInventorySlotInfo("MainHandSlot")) -- http://www.wowwiki.com/API_PickupInventoryItem |
| 05:13.45 | Jaxon | Well, I'm using the Itemrack menu on my character screen and I keep getting disconnected, also working... |
| 05:13.57 | Jaxon | So I guess I'm not taking dura hits. |
| 05:14.38 | ccKep | just melee the heck out of nef :D |
| 05:15.44 | Wobwork | does calling /equip again unequip? |
| 05:16.41 | ccKep | nop |
| 05:16.49 | ccKep | just tested ^.^ |
| 05:17.01 | ccKep | /equip doesn't accept itemlinks, how shitty is that? |
| 05:17.15 | Jaxon | But it accepts names... |
| 05:17.26 | Jaxon | Which is easier. |
| 05:17.40 | ccKep | yeah, but typing "Merciless Gladiator's Salvation" is not easier than shift-clicking the item |
| 05:17.58 | Jaxon | I don't think /equip will work outside of a macro |
| 05:18.08 | ccKep | just typed it |
| 05:18.17 | ccKep | /equip shift-click-mace didn't work |
| 05:18.23 | ccKep | /equip hand-typed-mace-name worked |
| 05:18.40 | ccKep | ah |
| 05:18.45 | ccKep | misunderstood you |
| 05:18.49 | CIA-22 | 03funkydude * r45352 10BigWigs_AQ20/Moam.lua: BigWigs_AQ20: :ScheduleEvent fixes |
| 05:18.51 | ccKep | can't shift click on items in macrowindow anyway |
| 05:18.52 | CIA-22 | 03funkydude * r45353 10BigWigs_AQ40/ (5 files): BigWigs_AQ40: :ScheduleEvent fixes |
| 05:18.54 | CIA-22 | 03funkydude * r45354 10BigWigs_BWL/ (6 files): BigWigs_BWL: :ScheduleEvent fixes |
| 05:18.55 | CIA-22 | 03funkydude * r45355 10BigWigs_MC/ (6 files): BigWigs_MC: :ScheduleEvent fixes |
| 05:18.56 | CIA-22 | 03funkydude * r45356 10BigWigs_Naxxramas/ (Noth.lua Thaddius.lua): BigWigs_Naxxramas: :ScheduleEvent fixes |
| 05:19.19 | ccKep | (that's how revision numbers get bumped) |
| 05:21.09 | Neebler | PUBES! |
| 05:21.18 | ckknight | oh noes, teh pubes |
| 05:21.24 | Wobwork | Finally got them, eh Neebler? |
| 05:21.28 | ckknight | pyewbs |
| 05:21.29 | Wobwork | Today is a special day |
| 05:21.52 | NightHawkTheSane | BOOBIES! |
| 05:22.04 | Wobwork | Finally got them, eh NightHawkTheSane? |
| 05:22.06 | Wobwork | Today is a special day |
| 05:22.11 | NightHawkTheSane | Wobwork: i only wish. |
| 05:22.16 | NightHawkTheSane | er..i mean.. >.> |
| 05:22.22 | Neebler | oh.. a ladyboy |
| 05:22.27 | ckknight | I find the most erotic part of a woman is the boobies. |
| 05:22.40 | Neebler | kip! |
| 05:22.40 | NightHawkTheSane | Neebler: no, actually i'm a 12 year old girl, i really do only wish. :P |
| 05:22.51 | Neebler | or is it kiff? |
| 05:23.15 | ccKep | any good GUI tutorials out there? |
| 05:23.17 | NightHawkTheSane | Kiff. it's kind of like yiff. |
| 05:23.33 | Wobwork | but with a hard 'k'? |
| 05:23.44 | CIA-22 | 03tsigo * r45357 10BigWigs/BlackTemple/Council.lua: |
| 05:23.44 | CIA-22 | BigWigs: BlackTemple/Council: |
| 05:23.44 | CIA-22 | - Fix the Circle of Healing interrupt sync; needs locale updates. |
| 05:23.44 | CIA-22 | - Group options by council member. |
| 05:23.44 | CIA-22 | - Cancel spell immune bar when Malande gains melee immune and vice-versa; had some claims that these can overlap. |
| 05:23.45 | CIA-22 | - Add a Shield duration bar. |
| 05:23.56 | NightHawkTheSane | Wobwork: i... am not going to continue this line of conversation. :) |
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| 05:24.19 | Wobwork | Hello peoples from www.wowace.com !!! |
| 05:24.19 | Wobwork | Â |
| 05:24.19 | Wobwork | I shall buy tomorrow notebook. What there to install? Win or Linux? |
| 05:24.20 | Wobwork | What is exact assembly? Advise pls, tnx |
| 05:24.26 | Wobwork | I'm tempted to reply: |
| 05:24.28 | Wobwork | "Yes" |
| 05:24.52 | ckknight | Mac |
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| 05:25.20 | Wobwork | You can't install mac on a laptop |
| 05:25.21 | ckknight | or maybe something better |
| 05:25.24 | ckknight | like "Exactly" |
| 05:26.01 | Antiarc | Does anyone know of a way I can QA a site in Safari without access to a Mac? |
| 05:26.11 | NightHawkTheSane | safari for windows? |
| 05:26.16 | NightHawkTheSane | :P |
| 05:26.26 | NightHawkTheSane | Antiarc: or you can pester a mac user |
| 05:26.42 | ckknight | Antiarc: yea, get Safari 3 beta for Win |
| 05:27.04 | Antiarc | Mmm. I don't generally trust OS ports to behave. |
| 05:27.07 | Antiarc | But I'll try it. |
| 05:27.12 | Antiarc | I was hoping for a VM image or something |
| 05:27.16 | Antiarc | Like MS released for IE6 |
| 05:27.57 | Heri1 | firefox imo |
| 05:28.06 | Antiarc | I use Firefox, but I need to QA in Safari. |
| 05:28.15 | Heri1 | QA? |
| 05:28.17 | Heri1 | OH |
| 05:28.25 | Antiarc | I'm a web developer |
| 05:28.26 | Heri1 | quality assurance |
| 05:28.28 | Heri1 | yeah |
| 05:28.28 | Antiarc | Correct |
| 05:28.55 | Heri1 | web browsers need to be made to standard /sigh |
| 05:29.18 | NightHawkTheSane | safari and firefox are actually pretty decent about it |
| 05:29.22 | Heri1 | does IE support PNG fully yet? |
| 05:29.31 | Antiarc | IE7's mostly there, but not completely. |
| 05:29.41 | Antiarc | There's some weird stuff that happens sometimes |
| 05:29.45 | Antiarc | Usually on overlapping layers |
| 05:29.47 | NightHawkTheSane | and by "safari and firefox" i actually mean their respective rendering engines |
| 05:29.57 | NightHawkTheSane | Safari's just a thin shell around webkit anyway |
| 05:29.58 | Heri1 | geko and whatnot |
| 05:29.58 | Antiarc | Gecko and Konq ;) |
| 05:30.01 | Funkeh` | 'Error: You are not allowed to make changes to ""-type files:' wtf? |
| 05:30.01 | Arrowmaster | does firefox pass the acid2 test yet or whatever it is |
| 05:31.16 | NightHawkTheSane | Arrowmaster: no.. :P |
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| 05:31.25 | NightHawkTheSane | http://www.webstandards.org/files/acid2/test.html to be sure. |
| 05:31.41 | NightHawkTheSane | webkit does, though. :) |
| 05:31.56 | ckknight | Opera does as well |
| 05:32.26 | Wobwork | I'm not sure how acid2test compliant Opera is as opposed to standards compliant... |
| 05:32.27 | Heri1 | "The CSS used in the test is invalid. This is deliberate, as a means of exposing the ability of user agents to handle invalid CSS properly." |
| 05:32.29 | Heri1 | wow |
| 05:32.43 | Heri1 | that's a pretty lame test |
| 05:33.16 | ckknight | it catches a lot of the bad cases that people actually do |
| 05:33.27 | Heri1 | boo |
| 05:33.40 | NightHawkTheSane | Heri1: failure mode is as important as anything else. |
| 05:34.01 | durcyn | nah, all html is well formed, la la la i can't hear you... |
| 05:34.01 | ckknight | gonna agree with NightHawkTheSane on this one |
| 05:34.10 | NightHawkTheSane | Or would you prefer your applications bluescreened/kernelpanicked every time you hit the wrong keyboard shortcut? :P |
| 05:34.12 | Heri1 | standards != failure mode |
| 05:34.14 | Heri1 | o.O |
| 05:34.32 | durcyn | that's why ACID2 is more than just a standards-compliance test. |
| 05:34.33 | NightHawkTheSane | Heri1: no one's saying it was? |
| 05:34.49 | NightHawkTheSane | Arrowmaster simply asked a question about the acid2 test, and i responded :P |
| 05:35.17 | Heri1 | "Acid2 is a test page, written to help browser vendors ensure proper support for Web and related standards in their products." :O |
| 05:37.22 | Funkeh` | later folks |
| 05:39.03 | Heri1 | the build of firefox I'm using doesn't |
| 05:39.08 | Heri1 | pass acid 2 that is |
| 05:39.13 | ckknight | I think Firefox 3.0 does |
| 05:39.19 | ckknight | not 2.0, though |
| 05:39.29 | Heri1 | yeah I'm firing up minefield right now to check |
| 05:40.02 | Heri1 | it does appear to |
| 05:40.37 | Heri1 | is the mouseover on the nose intended? it isn't in the rendering >.> |
| 05:40.43 | ckknight | yea, it is |
| 05:40.44 | loonacy | I'd rather have proper rendering of valid code than proper rendering of invalid code (which is what ACID2 tests). |
| 05:40.57 | CIA-22 | 03ktrigger * r45358 10/branches/Numen/Numen.lua: |
| 05:40.58 | CIA-22 | Numen: |
| 05:40.58 | CIA-22 | - Added dynamic rows. Added all totems and weapon buffs. |
| 05:41.01 | NightHawkTheSane | loonacy: i'd rather have both |
| 05:41.41 | Heri1 | well calling it a "standards test" while testing for non-standards compliance is ass backwards :O |
| 05:42.06 | ckknight | it is testing for standard compliance for errors |
| 05:42.20 | loonacy | Heril: Handling broken code is still part of the standard. |
| 05:42.25 | Heri1 | ic |
| 05:42.35 | ckknight | I wish everything rendered the same. |
| 05:42.36 | NightHawkTheSane | Heri1: i think you're being overly pedantic. :P |
| 05:42.39 | ckknight | that's all |
| 05:42.48 | ckknight | and I wish javascript worked the same |
| 05:42.49 | ckknight | and everything |
| 05:43.07 | ckknight | and the browsers would fight over extra features and speed |
| 05:43.12 | ckknight | not over the core |
| 05:43.40 | durcyn | i wish unicorns would fly over my house and shit candy down my chimney |
| 05:43.53 | Comxx | Antiarc did you get the errior i posted ? |
| 05:43.58 | Antiarc | yeah |
| 05:44.01 | weab | gr. why does baggins not respect fubar's font size |
| 05:44.07 | Comxx | k |
| 05:44.15 | ckknight | not sure how fresh that candy would be, durcyn |
| 05:44.17 | Antiarc | ckknight: I find that using a framework like prototype or jquery alleviates 99% of those headaches |
| 05:44.33 | ckknight | yea, yea |
| 05:44.38 | ckknight | still lame |
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| 05:48.26 | Jaxon | Earth elementals make Nef fun. |
| 05:48.42 | Jaxon | And Fire elementals. |
| 05:50.14 | ccKep | seed of corruption makes nef fun |
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| 06:00.04 | Comxx | Antiarc: is that what you need to know are do you need more ? |
| 06:00.12 | Antiarc | that's not the error causing it |
| 06:00.16 | Antiarc | That's just a tooltip problem |
| 06:01.56 | Comxx | hmm but i cant get past saning with that error |
| 06:02.08 | Comxx | scanning* |
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| 06:05.40 | Antiarc | That doesn't matter |
| 06:07.10 | Comxx | ok i keep working at it then =) |
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| 06:16.08 | Dustwhisper| | Any chance we'll see a "create threat bar" in the future Antiarc |
| 06:16.24 | Wobwork | rofl |
| 06:16.25 | Wobwork | Latest Member: PopeJonPaul |
| 06:16.34 | Wobwork | We've hit the big times now =) |
| 06:17.04 | Dustwhisper| | haha |
| 06:17.04 | ckknight | lol |
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| 06:20.19 | Comxx | Antiarc do it save Data after i /camp ? |
| 06:22.10 | CIA-22 | 03fenlis * r45359 10BigWigs/BlackTemple/ (Council.lua Illidan.lua): |
| 06:22.10 | CIA-22 | BigWigs: |
| 06:22.10 | CIA-22 | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:23.35 | Comxx | or any one |
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| 06:24.36 | Comxx | do i have to /quit or /camp to save the addon data ? |
| 06:25.01 | weab | reloadui is good enough |
| 06:26.00 | Comxx | k |
| 06:26.18 | weab | ckknight: any idea off the top of your head why a fubar plugin wouldn't respect fubar's font size setting and keep it from being draggable? |
| 06:26.27 | ckknight | no, I don't |
| 06:26.29 | ckknight | ran into it before |
| 06:26.33 | ckknight | still have no idea |
| 06:26.44 | weab | baggins has this problem and i don't see any obvious reason why |
| 06:29.34 | CIA-22 | 03ktrigger * r45360 10/branches/Numen/ (Bindings.xml Numen.lua): |
| 06:29.34 | CIA-22 | Numen: |
| 06:29.34 | CIA-22 | - Added additional bindings. Orientation and growth direction added. |
| 06:29.37 | weab | and it's bugging the crap out of me :( |
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| 06:40.30 | Comxx | Antiarc You there ? |
| 06:40.44 | Fin | kemayo: I'm getting errors about a nil value for "numGot", line 645ish - I've added this above: numGot = numGot or 0 |
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| 06:47.36 | Mecdemort | is there a way to move a frame with a script such that it stores it in the layout-cache? |
| 06:48.09 | Nemes_ | Frame:RegisterForDrag() |
| 06:48.38 | Nemes_ | you then need to hook the OnDragStart and OnDragStop events |
| 06:49.45 | Nemes_ | and then do something like this http://ace.pastey.net/71632 |
| 06:50.16 | Mecdemort | ok ty |
| 06:50.45 | Dustwhisper| | what does ['*'] in a table mean? |
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| 06:51.29 | krka | Dustwhisper|: what do you mean? |
| 06:52.19 | Dustwhisper| | I was looking at how recount used an AceDB to store it's data and it's inited like local DefaultConfig = { combatants = { ['*'] = { Records... } } } |
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| 06:54.42 | Mecdemort | it supposedly sets any newly added entry into the table like that IE added defaultconfig.combatints.newkey will give newkey a records field |
| 06:56.02 | ckknight | Dustwhisper|: it acts as an "every" peer table thing |
| 06:56.12 | Mecdemort | http://www.wowace.com/wiki/AceDB-2.0#.C2.A0:RegisterDefaults.28.22dataType.22.2C_defaults.29_or_.28.22namespace.22.2C_.22dataType.22.2C_defaults.29 |
| 06:56.16 | weab | i like the supposedly thrown in there |
| 06:56.21 | Dustwhisper| | meaning that you wouldn't have to do combatants[newcombatant] = { } for a new one? or |
| 06:56.29 | ckknight | anyone up for waxing philosophical about Ace3? |
| 06:56.36 | Fin | oh yeah |
| 06:56.46 | CIA-22 | 03fenlis * r45361 10Prat/Prat_Modules/modules/CustomFilters.lua: |
| 06:56.46 | CIA-22 | Prat: |
| 06:56.46 | CIA-22 | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:56.54 | Mecdemort | no Dustwhisper| if you did that it'll automatically add Records.. to it |
| 06:56.56 | ckknight | basically, I'm thinking that it might be a good idea to run :OnInitialize() right before :OnEnable(), and only on the first time |
| 06:56.59 | Mecdemort | however, in practice I couldnt get it to work |
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| 06:57.15 | Mecdemort | ckknight: thats not how ace2 does it? |
| 06:57.22 | Fin | I think you should really have the "3" as superscript though, so it's Ace Cubed - Ace Cube, geddit? Cool as Ace! |
| 06:57.22 | CIA-22 | 03fenlis * r45362 10Proximo/localization-koKR.lua: |
| 06:57.22 | CIA-22 | Proximo : |
| 06:57.22 | CIA-22 | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:57.25 | Fin | hahah |
| 06:57.35 | Fin | Ace, Ace, Baby |
| 06:57.36 | ckknight | w, the difference would be that :OnInitialize() wouldn't run until the addon is enabled |
| 06:57.45 | ckknight | if it starts disabled, it won't run until that point |
| 06:57.50 | ckknight | possibly. |
| 06:57.55 | ckknight | I'm not sure, though |
| 06:58.01 | Mecdemort | i cant see why it shouldnt be like that |
| 06:58.04 | Bejitt | "Ace, Ace, Baby" only works for Ace2 o.O |
| 06:58.22 | ckknight | well, if you register your GUI config in OnInitialize... |
| 06:58.26 | Fin | ckknight: I thought that was how it worked now... |
| 06:58.33 | ckknight | then again, I could just prevent people from doing that |
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| 06:58.49 | Mecdemort | oh ya... thats what i do now |
| 06:59.12 | ckknight | well, the idea would be that you do it in the root of the file instead. |
| 06:59.41 | Mecdemort | i always wondered where it should go, but couldnt find anything decisive |
| 06:59.56 | ckknight | well, I'll make a decision about that later |
| 07:00.06 | Fin | :OnInitialize() gets run once, when the addon first loads, then :OnEnable() is run; if the addon is subsequently disabled and re-enabled, only :OnEnable() is parsed again |
| 07:00.55 | krka | wait... why do you need OnInitialize? can't you just do those things when your addon code is loaded? |
| 07:00.59 | CIA-22 | 03fenlis * r45363 10BigWigs_AQ40/Viscidus.lua: |
| 07:00.59 | CIA-22 | BigWigs_AQ40: |
| 07:00.59 | CIA-22 | <PROTECTED> |
| 07:01.23 | ckknight | krka: it's like an OnEnable that is guaranteed to only run once |
| 07:01.23 | CIA-22 | 03fenlis * r45364 10BigWigs_BWL/Ebonroc.lua: |
| 07:01.23 | CIA-22 | BigWigs_BWL: |
| 07:01.23 | CIA-22 | <PROTECTED> |
| 07:01.29 | ckknight | krka: useful for some things |
| 07:01.31 | Mecdemort | OnInit seems like the perfect place to put GUI code, so if the addon starts disabled you dont get the GUI at all |
| 07:01.45 | CIA-22 | 03fenlis * r45365 10BigWigs_Naxxramas/ (Gluth.lua Grobbulus.lua Heigan.lua Patchwerk.lua): |
| 07:01.45 | CIA-22 | BigWigs_Naxxramas: |
| 07:01.45 | CIA-22 | <PROTECTED> |
| 07:01.46 | krka | right... and what's the difference from simply putting the oninitialize code in your code? |
| 07:01.53 | ckknight | in most cases nothing |
| 07:02.03 | ckknight | Mecdemort: issue with that is that how do you enable your addon without config? |
| 07:03.39 | weab | triucecommander? |
| 07:03.54 | Mecdemort | yar, ACP |
| 07:03.54 | Fin | if you want to create a default set of variables for something, they shouldn't be recreated every time you disable and re-enable an addon |
| 07:04.02 | CIA-22 | 03roartindon * r45366 10Assessment/ (Assessment.lua CoreModules/CombatTime.lua): |
| 07:04.02 | CIA-22 | Assessment |
| 07:04.02 | CIA-22 | - Fixed issues with unpausing during combat |
| 07:04.38 | weab | acp isn't handling ace's enable/disable though |
| 07:05.22 | ckknight | well, the question I am posing is this: Should OnInitialize be run initially if the addon is disabled or only if the addon is enabled? |
| 07:05.33 | ckknight | currently (Ace2) it is always run |
| 07:06.05 | Fin | I don't think the module should exist as anything other than an entry in a list of available addons, if it's not enabled |
| 07:06.14 | weab | i think i would say no. |
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| 07:06.41 | Fin | no chance of interfering with any other addons, no wasted resources with anything that's not being used |
| 07:07.38 | weab | as krka said, you can always just slap things in wherever you like if they always need to run |
| 07:07.51 | ckknight | alright then |
| 07:08.13 | CIA-22 | 03roartindon * r45367 10Assessment/CoreModules/CombatTime.lua: |
| 07:08.13 | CIA-22 | Assessment |
| 07:08.13 | CIA-22 | - Pausing mid fight and unpausing in that same fight will no longer start a new fight data block |
| 07:09.13 | ckknight | oh, one more situation |
| 07:09.54 | ckknight | for a modular framework (say Parrot or PitBull or BigWigs or what have you), if you disable the core, should all modules be disabled implicitly? In Ace2 this isn't the case, I'm thinking it should in Ace3. |
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| 07:10.04 | Mecdemort | absolutely |
| 07:10.05 | Fin | yes |
| 07:10.07 | weab | yes |
| 07:10.12 | ckknight | figured as much |
| 07:10.32 | earthbane | quick question, is there a method/lib/something to determin how many and what type of gem sockets an item has? |
| 07:10.36 | Fin | maybe there should be some sort of standard way of defining the core, and modules |
| 07:10.48 | krka | personally, i'd just make a local hasLoaded = false and then check that upon OnEnable |
| 07:10.54 | Fin | <PROTECTED> |
| 07:11.08 | Mecdemort | i changed my mind, OnInit should be called immediatly for config code, and OnEnable should be left for the beef |
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| 07:11.22 | ckknight | Core = Joker:NewAddon("MyThingy", "LibJokerModuleCore-1.0") |
| 07:11.36 | ckknight | Module = Core:NewModule("MyModule") |
| 07:11.42 | ckknight | that's basically how it is now |
| 07:11.43 | Fin | Core:AddModule('FunnyHat') |
| 07:11.44 | Fin | oh |
| 07:12.01 | krka | yeah, no point in having both OnInit and OnEnable of they run at the same time anyway :) |
| 07:12.21 | ckknight | krka: OnInit will be run once, OnEnable run multiple times, theoretically |
| 07:12.24 | Fin | why not? if OnInit isn't run again if the module is dis+re-enabled? |
| 07:12.25 | mitch0 | are .lua files considered to be UTF8 by default, or you need those special markers at the beginning? |
| 07:12.36 | ckknight | mitch0: WoW sees em as UTF-8 |
| 07:12.40 | ckknight | no matter what |
| 07:12.48 | mitch0 | good |
| 07:12.57 | ckknight | Fin: right |
| 07:12.58 | krka | right, i see the distinction |
| 07:13.09 | krka | but it's almost easier to just check for that condition in OnEnable |
| 07:13.14 | krka | (than defining a new function) |
| 07:13.29 | weab | i don't think so |
| 07:13.39 | krka | i would think OnInitialize should run as soon as possible |
| 07:13.52 | krka | and let the addon do some minor loads / tweaks |
| 07:14.17 | Mecdemort | Ya but if the addon starts disabled OnEnable shouldnt be called so that would mean the enable/disable control code would have to be free-floating, and thats just messy |
| 07:14.31 | ckknight | wait, I can't have that happen anyway, nevermind |
| 07:14.38 | Mecdemort | which part |
| 07:14.40 | ckknight | OnInitialize has to run every time no matter what |
| 07:14.43 | ckknight | for mixins to function properly |
| 07:14.47 | Fin | if a module is disabled, will it still be initialised? |
| 07:14.49 | ckknight | (i.e. JokerDB) |
| 07:14.59 | ckknight | yes, Fin |
| 07:15.16 | CIA-22 | 03mitchell * r45368 10RangeDisplay/localization-deDE.lua: RangeDisplay: deDE localizations by Carylon. Thanks |
| 07:15.54 | earthbane | I'll take the non-answer as a no |
| 07:16.05 | Fin | ckknight: maybe it doesn't need to be? having to run through each addon's OnInit()s seems like it should be unnecessary |
| 07:16.08 | ckknight | earthbane: right |
| 07:16.23 | Fin | a list of available addons and some meta information should be enough |
| 07:16.45 | ckknight | Fin: OnInit is when the database itself is initialized |
| 07:17.00 | Dustwhisper| | hmm does scrollFrame work horizontaly aswell? If I'd like to just scroll a rectangular texture back and forth horizontaly that is, or do i need to code in the clipping myself ? |
| 07:17.06 | Fin | ckknight: which database? Ace's? |
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| 07:17.15 | ckknight | Ace has no database |
| 07:17.18 | ckknight | the addon's database |
| 07:17.34 | MoonWolf | ace itself has nothing to store. |
| 07:17.41 | ckknight | Dustwhisper|: yea, it'll work |
| 07:17.45 | Fin | a disabled addon shouldn't need a database until it's enabled, no? |
| 07:17.51 | Dustwhisper| | guess i'm just making the scrollFrame wrong then |
| 07:17.52 | Fin | I mean, in theory |
| 07:17.52 | Mecdemort | bah SoB, my realm is down for 11 hours |
| 07:18.04 | ckknight | Fin: the addon's disabled/enabled state is stored in the database. |
| 07:18.15 | Fin | ah, right |
| 07:18.16 | Arrowmaster | if an addon is doing one time code that shouldnt be run unless its enabled then it should be doing that code on OnEnable(first) if first then ... end |
| 07:18.45 | ckknight | Arrowmaster: yea, that's the conclusion I'm drawing. |
| 07:18.48 | Fin | ckknight: maybe that would be something that could be changed? |
| 07:18.51 | ckknight | I could go for some bacon |
| 07:19.00 | ckknight | Fin: where would it be stored? |
| 07:19.23 | Arrowmaster | ckk, just make the fact that the first var is there and what it does more clear in the documention and included in the example |
| 07:19.38 | ckknight | Arrowmaster: alright then |
| 07:20.01 | Fin | why not just an small Ace3 table? |
| 07:20.13 | ckknight | Fin: how would it be stored? |
| 07:20.25 | Fin | ckknight: in SavedVariables\Ace3.lua? |
| 07:20.29 | weab | if you use embedded |
| 07:20.35 | weab | where would it be stored |
| 07:20.38 | ckknight | Fin: Blizzard doesn't allow that |
| 07:21.18 | Fin | well, here's my line of thinking... |
| 07:21.20 | Arrowmaster | theres only one embed that has saved vars, but those variables arent really important and just stuff for keeping track of days |
| 07:23.24 | buu | ARGH |
| 07:23.30 | buu | Goddamn prince. |
| 07:23.36 | evl | :D |
| 07:23.38 | evl | bring enough dps |
| 07:23.40 | Fin | if an multiple addons are going to use an embedded lib to allow them to be seperate entities, but they're all using the same lib, then in a perfect world there should be a way to stop disabled addons from being processed by that lib, somehow |
| 07:23.40 | evl | I hate him to |
| 07:23.42 | buu | Eh |
| 07:23.48 | buu | I'm casting Curse of Weakness |
| 07:23.53 | buu | With frigging tranquil air out |
| 07:24.31 | ckknight | Fin: ah, no... |
| 07:24.45 | weab | Madness has brought you here to me. |
| 07:25.04 | buu | And I'm still pulling aggro. |
| 07:25.05 | buu | Gah. |
| 07:27.18 | weab | although in theory i'd still say oninit should still only be run if the addon is enabled, in practice it doesn't seem feasible |
| 07:28.02 | ckknight | weab: right. And most one-time code should be done in the first part of :OnEnable |
| 07:28.04 | ckknight | imho |
| 07:28.20 | ckknight | or |
| 07:28.23 | ckknight | third option: |
| 07:28.30 | Fin | I know you like embeds |
| 07:28.31 | weab | i wouldn't create another function for it |
| 07:28.32 | ckknight | add a method :OnFirstEnable |
| 07:28.40 | ckknight | bah |
| 07:28.43 | Fin | but how about a tiny stub that needs to be installed first? |
| 07:28.43 | weab | heh |
| 07:28.47 | weab | yeah i thought about that too |
| 07:28.58 | Fin | teeny tiny stub |
| 07:29.08 | ckknight | no, Fin |
| 07:29.14 | ckknight | lest we forget, users are dum |
| 07:29.25 | Fin | basically each addon could carry embedded libs, which the stub could read in the first time they're used |
| 07:29.37 | weab | it defeats the purpose |
| 07:29.40 | Arrowmaster | ckknight: hmm i dont know about that, what if you want to have normal code that always runs in onenable before the code that only runs the first time |
| 07:29.49 | weab | the only purpose of embeds at all is users ignorance/stupidity/incompetence |
| 07:29.52 | Arrowmaster | although i know really know of any reason to do that |
| 07:30.12 | weab | all of us are capable of installing all the libraries and recognizing their usefulness |
| 07:30.16 | weab | users are not |
| 07:30.25 | ckknight | so it's win-win for both |
| 07:30.31 | ckknight | even though it is a compensation |
| 07:30.32 | Arrowmaster | Fin: would that tiny stub happen to be a toc with nothign but a SavedVariables line? |
| 07:31.11 | Fin | well, right now, addon authors are having to distribute their code with a subdirectory full of other people's libs - why not have them distribute their code with another folder on the same level? each addon's copy could just overwrite any existing version |
| 07:31.14 | weab | ckknight: actually i don't really see any real issue with an OnFirstEnable. i was resistant to the idea as i considered it in my head |
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| 07:31.52 | Mecdemort | Fin: if someone installed an older addon like that it would overwrite newer libs with older ones |
| 07:31.59 | Fin | Arrowmaster: something like that? each time an addon loads, it could just check for the stub, and call functions included with that addon via the stub |
| 07:31.59 | ckknight | :OnEnable(first) was done as kind of a hack |
| 07:32.06 | ckknight | well, the first part |
| 07:32.24 | Mecdemort | semantically OnEnable(first) == OnInit no? |
| 07:32.43 | ckknight | no. |
| 07:32.44 | weab | no |
| 07:33.03 | Arrowmaster | Fin: if theres any chance the stub could have more than one version then it cant be used |
| 07:33.11 | Fin | how about OnEnable:OnEnable() :) |
| 07:33.31 | ckknight | ... |
| 07:33.41 | Fin | Arrowmaster: I know the issue that's trying to be avoided, but aren't there similar problems right now anyway? |
| 07:33.55 | weab | such as? |
| 07:34.38 | Fin | OK, tell me: why does one addon get blamed for using so much memory when someone's using all-embedded addons? |
| 07:35.03 | weab | because users are stupid |
| 07:35.05 | Arrowmaster | because those libs are loaded first in that addon |
| 07:35.09 | Gngsk | it's the way embedded libs work |
| 07:35.10 | Arrowmaster | its a non issue |
| 07:35.22 | Fin | so what happens if an addon is using a different revision of the same lib as another addon? |
| 07:35.32 | Gngsk | that's not the way embedded libs work |
| 07:35.35 | Arrowmaster | the newest revison of the lib is used |
| 07:35.37 | ckknight | libs upgrade |
| 07:35.58 | Fin | OK, so why is it not possible to do the same thing with the stub and subsequent copies? |
| 07:36.27 | weab | because if you overwrite a new with an old and it's your only copy.... |
| 07:36.33 | Fin | is the original addon still using the earlier revision of this lib above? |
| 07:36.33 | weab | is that not obvious to you? |
| 07:36.37 | Arrowmaster | because a user would download a zip of an old addon and install, it would overwrite the new version of it with the old one |
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| 07:37.13 | Fin | when an addon uses another revision of a lib, and it gets upgraded, does the addon that first used it keep using the original version? |
| 07:37.22 | Arrowmaster | no |
| 07:37.23 | ckknight | no, Fin |
| 07:37.38 | Fin | so, it's been overwritten with the new revision |
| 07:37.41 | Arrowmaster | no |
| 07:37.50 | Arrowmaster | its been overwritten in memory |
| 07:37.59 | Fin | OK... |
| 07:38.08 | ckknight | yes, Fin |
| 07:38.08 | Arrowmaster | the old version still exists on the harddrive |
| 07:38.17 | ckknight | it was overwritten in the lua code, basically |
| 07:38.24 | Fin | what's the difference if the old version isn't being used? |
| 07:38.49 | ckknight | the old version is cleared from memory |
| 07:38.58 | weab | you're not taking users into account |
| 07:39.01 | Fin | does it really matter if the old version is on the hard drive or not? it might as well have the new revision that was included with the other addon - isn't that the same as what I suggested with the stub? |
| 07:39.13 | weab | and their stupid reasonings and habits |
| 07:39.18 | Arrowmaster | Fin: no its not |
| 07:39.36 | Thrae | Fin: The libraries are (suppose) to be setup with "minor" and "major" versions, where "minor" versions normally include bug fixes and 100% backwards compatible changes. A major version should never erase a minor version, but a newer minor version overriding an older one should be 100% OK. |
| 07:39.37 | ckknight | users can't use stubs, they're dumb |
| 07:39.44 | Fin | hey, no, come on, go back to what you just said: |
| 07:39.46 | Arrowmaster | Fin: you suggested having it get overwritten whenever a new addon is installed, nomatter if its newer or older |
| 07:39.46 | Fin | [09:45:37] < weab> because if you overwrite a new with an old and it's your only copy.... |
| 07:39.49 | Fin | [09:45:43] < weab> is that not obvious to you? |
| 07:39.53 | weab | yes |
| 07:39.58 | Kemayo | Fin: Could you uncomment line 649 and tell me what it prints when you get the error? |
| 07:39.59 | weab | a new with an OLD |
| 07:40.03 | ckknight | Thrae: btw, I took your advice and :RegisterEvent is now called :AddEventListener |
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| 07:40.26 | Mecdemort | oo i like that better |
| 07:40.35 | Thrae | ckknight: That was a joke ^^;; You're going to make things confusing for people... |
| 07:40.50 | Fin | Thrae: I know. I'm trying to find out the difference between including a tiny stub, which other addons can include and just overwrite with new revisions, vs. embeds |
| 07:40.51 | ckknight | Thrae: I know, but it makes the whole framework much more consistent |
| 07:41.03 | Fin | Kemayo: OK |
| 07:41.05 | Arrowmaster | Fin: stop and think |
| 07:41.09 | ckknight | instead of :ScheduleEvent, it's :AddTimer and such |
| 07:41.18 | ckknight | things follow the Add/Remove/Has paradigm |
| 07:41.38 | Thrae | ckknight: Yeah, ScheduleEvent and custom events using the same commands as WoW was confusing |
| 07:41.42 | Arrowmaster | Fin: every time a user installs an addon using said stub they overwrite the existing version with the version included with whatever they install |
| 07:41.48 | weab | here's your example. user downloads SuperMod with all the latest gadgets and doodads. it has and USES the latest versions of libraries. user installs this addon. now user installs SuperGayMod with very old versions of these same libraries. SuperMod no longer works. |
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| 07:42.03 | ckknight | Thrae: and events and the like are all namespaced now, so it broke anyway |
| 07:42.07 | Arrowmaster | Fin: if the user installs an addon that hasnt been updated for a while it might have an older version of said stub |
| 07:42.27 | Fin | Arrowmaster: every time a user installs an addon using an embedded lib any other addons using an earlier version of the lib have their overwritten with the version included with whatever they install |
| 07:42.45 | MoonWolf | unless its a major version. |
| 07:42.52 | Mecdemort | Fin: so does newer versions too tho |
| 07:43.15 | Arrowmaster | Fin: ok now your not making any sense |
| 07:43.37 | weab | Fin: this debate has already long been discussed. embedded isn't going anywhere |
| 07:43.37 | weab | and that's that |
| 07:43.41 | Thrae | Fin: What's your worry? That an older version of a lib will overwrite a newer one? That should never happen. Different major versions should exist separately, and older minor versions will be discarded immediatly if a newer version already exists. |
| 07:43.50 | MoonWolf | A lib version is replaced im memmory when the minor version is higher then the currently loaded one. |
| 07:43.56 | MoonWolf | then and only then is it overwritten |
| 07:44.04 | MoonWolf | major version are stored speratly |
| 07:44.27 | Thrae | Fin: The only thing that could taint this is if the stub itself (in this case, AceLibrary, etc.) is of an incompatible minor version, which should also never happen...unless ckknight breaks it! |
| 07:44.36 | ckknight | yea, my bad |
| 07:44.43 | Arrowmaster | ckknight: is joker using a single frame for all events or seperate frames for each addon |
| 07:44.47 | ckknight | though with the new system, breakage should be much less common |
| 07:44.47 | Fin | I'm sort of suggesting that the stub be the same |
| 07:45.00 | weab | it can't be |
| 07:45.03 | chead | i.e. In Eye of the Storm and in terokkar forrest, when you try to capture the towers.. there's a progress indicator showing up. I'm trying to move that frame, but I cannot find the name of it. visor2gui won't "grab" it. Anyone knows the name of it, or how to find the name? |
| 07:45.03 | weab | it's impossible |
| 07:45.06 | ckknight | Arrowmaster: single frame, because after all the testing, results showed little to no change, i.e. inconclusive. |
| 07:45.30 | Mecdemort | chead: use the grab over the tower icon, not the text |
| 07:45.55 | Mecdemort | or AlwaysUpFrame1 |
| 07:45.57 | Thrae | Fin: That's how Ace2 already works...AceLibrary includes a generic stub implementation that all "Ace'd" libraries use (such as Threat-1.0). |
| 07:46.12 | Arrowmaster | ckknight: what about that registerevent is going to be C now instead of lua so unregistering when you dont need events and registering when you do will be faster |
| 07:46.16 | Fin | almost all the code would be included in the addons themselves, all they'd do is check if any functionality exists for the stub, install it if not, and then the stub can do shit like checking if the module needs to be processed or whatever |
| 07:46.16 | CIA-22 | 03roartindon * r45369 10Assessment/Modules/ (Deaths.lua Healing.lua): |
| 07:46.16 | CIA-22 | Assessment |
| 07:46.16 | CIA-22 | - Improved iterators used for segment coloring |
| 07:46.35 | ckknight | Arrowmaster: no, that had to do with the :Show/:Hide thing. It was always in C |
| 07:46.43 | chead | Mecdemort: ok will try that, the progress indicator is overlapped the minimap.. guess that's why it can't grab it |
| 07:46.55 | Mecdemort | Fin: that kind of defeats the purpose of a library |
| 07:47.11 | ckknight | Arrowmaster: basically, unregistering on hide and registering on show is faster, which would be useful for GUI-specific stuff, but doesn't come into play for addons as a whole |
| 07:47.14 | Arrowmaster | ckknight: theres something in the changelogs about registerevent and unregisterevent being in C and faster |
| 07:47.27 | ckknight | it's about the :Show/:Hide thing. |
| 07:47.53 | Mecdemort | chead: also try WorldStateAlwaysUpFrame |
| 07:48.18 | Thrae | Fin: One of the main reasons these are libraries in the first place is for collaborative development. The libraries are -embedded- in an addon, as in that addon caries a reference to the library the addon instantiates. |
| 07:48.42 | chead | great, will do |
| 07:48.42 | Thrae | Fin: I have absolutely no idea what your goal is. You're really making no sense. |
| 07:48.54 | Arrowmaster | * Frame:RegisterEvent() and Frame:UnregisterEvent() have been optimized and can be used in conjunction with OnShow() and OnHide() to greatly improve performance of the UI. This technique has been used to optimize the bank, bags, inventory, spellbook, and unit frames for a decent speed improvement in 2.2.0. |
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| 07:49.05 | Fin | heh, I'm not doing a very good job of explaining what I mean, anyway :) |
| 07:49.28 | ramoz | Howcome Rangecheck-1.0 is beeing gay and giving me login spam when i have !StopTheSpam? |
| 07:49.44 | Thrae | Fin: Instead of telling us how you think the problem should be fixed, why don't you try explaining what you think the problem is? |
| 07:50.10 | mitch0 | ramoz: probably 'cos it's using it's own print()? :) |
| 07:50.15 | Fin | Thrae: the fact that every addon has to be initialised and parsed even if it's not enabled |
| 07:50.17 | mitch0 | what is StopTheSPam? |
| 07:50.36 | Fin | mitch0: it hides addon startup messages |
| 07:50.57 | Arrowmaster | ckknight: so there shouldnt be much overhead if using the joker addevent |
| 07:51.03 | mitch0 | guess it only works with AceConsole stuff, right? |
| 07:51.06 | Arrowmaster | no |
| 07:51.24 | weab | Thrae: the problem is oninit has to load every time because that's when the db gets initialized regardless if the addon is disabled |
| 07:51.29 | ramoz | mitch0: yes, well stopthespam is a addon to stop that - and rangecheck overrides it |
| 07:51.40 | weab | which is where enabled/disabled status is stored |
| 07:51.59 | ckknight | Arrowmaster: no, it'll be quite minimal. |
| 07:52.01 | Fin | and I apologise; I wasn't trying to say how I think it *should* be fixed, I was more trying to understand if it could be done a different way, and why not :) |
| 07:52.08 | Arrowmaster | its because rangecheck-1.0 is giving a message in response to something else and not directly on load |
| 07:52.18 | Thrae | Fin, weab: So what's the problem there? That takes an extremely trivial amount of time to process. |
| 07:52.30 | Fin | at least, I should be, it's easy to get argumentative with stuff like this even though that's not the goal at all |
| 07:52.34 | mitch0 | ah, maybe it's becaouse that print() is in the first OnUpdate() and not in some OnInitialize or Activate |
| 07:52.34 | Thrae | Fin, weab: Even for a 100+ addons. |
| 07:52.35 | ckknight | Arrowmaster: actually it'll be faster than AceEvent-2.0 because I took out some things that were just unneeded |
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| 07:52.57 | weab | Thrae:ckk asked if we thought oninit should be called if an addon is disablee |
| 07:52.59 | weab | *disabled |
| 07:53.02 | weab | and we said no |
| 07:53.07 | Arrowmaster | mitch0: STS is on the svn |
| 07:53.08 | weab | then he realized his mistake and that it had to |
| 07:53.10 | chead | sadly developement of stopthespam has stopped, very nice addon to get rid off all the spam addons write when they are loaded. |
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| 07:53.27 | ramoz | oh |
| 07:53.28 | mitch0 | ramoz: I'll check out how this STS works and see what I can do |
| 07:53.28 | ramoz | well |
| 07:53.28 | Arrowmaster | nothings wrong with STS |
| 07:53.34 | ramoz | well |
| 07:53.42 | ramoz | it stops all my addons except rangecheck |
| 07:53.55 | ramoz | or well, not stops, but the loading spam |
| 07:54.11 | chead | Arrowmaster yeah almost works 100%. but it always let one addon spam through on my setup.. but I can certainly live with that |
| 07:54.22 | Arrowmaster | chead: which addon? |
| 07:54.29 | ramoz | stopthespam |
| 07:54.34 | Thrae | Fin, weab: :OnIntialize calls are something specific to Ace2, not stub implementations in general. |
| 07:54.45 | chead | the one that spams that is loaded last it seems.. |
| 07:54.47 | weab | we're talking about ace3 |
| 07:54.49 | ramoz | mitch0: would be awesome, thanks |
| 07:54.53 | Fin | Thrae: it *does* take quite a while to go through all the stuff included in 100+ addons... |
| 07:55.06 | chead | if I disable the one I can see spam.. and then restart.. then it's another addon |
| 07:55.13 | Arrowmaster | chead: is it always a certain addon? or just whatever loads last? |
| 07:55.21 | Thrae | Fin: No, not if the addons, and/or their framework, are coded properly. |
| 07:55.47 | weab | that is the point |
| 07:55.57 | chead | seems like it's whatever loads last... but I haven't checked it more thoroughly for a long time.. since it was only one adddon spam I get |
| 07:56.01 | weab | we were discussing the theoretical of what should be considered properly |
| 07:56.11 | weab | for ace3. |
| 07:56.16 | weab | not ace2 |
| 07:56.37 | Fin | Thrae: OK I think I might have this wrong, but regardless of whether an addon is enabled or not via Ace2, the embedded libs get parsed and reembedded, right? |
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| 07:57.40 | Thrae | Fin: Depends on the addon. When I coded Ace2 addons, I only instantiated libs AFTER processing the variables, in case a lib wasn't needed. |
| 07:57.55 | ramoz | !StopTheSpam r39894 was updated about a month ago |
| 07:58.02 | Arrowmaster | mixins will be loaded though |
| 07:58.30 | Mecdemort | chead: about how long dies it take to fully load into the world? |
| 07:58.34 | Thrae | Arrowmaster: I did the same with all of the mixins that I could |
| 07:58.35 | Mecdemort | wow how long does* it take |
| 07:58.49 | Arrowmaster | Last Changed Date: 2007-06-14 12:20:27 -0400 (Thu, 14 Jun 2007) |
| 07:58.52 | Arrowmaster | for STS |
| 07:59.43 | Mecdemort | well right off the bat it looks like !StopTheSpam only stop spam for 5 seconds, so if load time is longer you're stuck |
| 07:59.47 | Fin | Thrae: don't suppose I could see an example of how that's done, please? |
| 07:59.54 | Thrae | Fin: ckknight says he's going to make the core of Ace3/Joker very tiny, so for parsing these libs, it'll take a trivial amount of time. 100 addons all using the same framework is like maybe 2-3 upgrades on average with the rest of the functions returning immediatly. |
| 08:00.13 | ckknight | well, not "very" tiny |
| 08:00.15 | ckknight | just tinier |
| 08:00.26 | ckknight | it'll do everything it needs |
| 08:00.27 | ckknight | but no more |
| 08:00.29 | Thrae | "relatively tiny" |
| 08:00.34 | ckknight | yes, that's right |
| 08:00.38 | ckknight | relatively tiny |
| 08:00.54 | ckknight | LibJoker-1.0 is smaller than AceLibrary if you disregard comments |
| 08:00.56 | weab | it's not necessarily only about load time |
| 08:00.59 | Mecdemort | whats with all this joker talker |
| 08:01.37 | mitch0 | ramoz: looking at the STS code I don't exactly see how it filters stuff out, or how RangeCheck-1.0 overcomes this... |
| 08:01.49 | weab | the functionality would be changed slightly one way or the other |
| 08:02.06 | chead | mec uhmm I haven't timed it really.. but I have lots of addons... nonembedded libraries.. I'd guess 20secs |
| 08:02.35 | Thrae | Fin, weab: Another thing you may not realize, is that all the libs have, at top level, a check of minor versions of itself already existing in memory. So if minor version 34152 already exists in memory, and that's the newest, all the other versions, at the very first statement, will return -- meaning Lua will only pre-parse the file (to compile it). |
| 08:02.40 | mitch0 | ramoz: it seems STS disables itself after 5 seconds, so maybe my print() is happening a bit later |
| 08:03.00 | weab | why do you keep including me with fin |
| 08:03.17 | Thrae | weab: To include you in the discussion? |
| 08:03.20 | Fin | you helped explain what I was trying to say mate :) |
| 08:03.25 | weab | half the room was in the discussion :P |
| 08:03.30 | ckknight | Mecdemort: Joker's the codename for what might become Ace3 |
| 08:03.30 | ckknight | by not calling it Ace3 right away, it might save face later |
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| 08:03.33 | ramoz | mitch0: maybe you could increase that by setting local DELAY = 5.0 to .. maybe 10.0? |
| 08:03.42 | Mecdemort | chead: holy mother of... anyway it looks like STS uses a delay timer and a ruleset so any number of things could not get blocked by it, ill look into making it more flexible |
| 08:03.54 | mitch0 | probably, you can do that |
| 08:04.01 | ramoz | ill try that then |
| 08:04.07 | ramoz | its a great addon |
| 08:04.10 | Arrowmaster | ramoz: you could filter way too much with that, his addon is doing the message way later than normal load spam |
| 08:04.21 | Arrowmaster | or he could just remove the print |
| 08:04.32 | ramoz | i can actually see gmotd now |
| 08:04.32 | mitch0 | yeah, that's an option, too |
| 08:04.42 | CIA-22 | 03nemes * r45370 10NBuffBars/ (7 files in 3 dirs): NBuffBars: don't use localised in saved variables, allow interesting/boring selection |
| 08:04.49 | Thrae | Fin: To instantiate a library, you use local lib = Library:GetInstance("major-version"). Once you do this, the library "starts up" and is ready for use. Before this, the library should not be ready for use. Some libs also have "Enable" and "Disable" commands. |
| 08:04.49 | Mecdemort | is there any way to tell where an :AddMessage is coming from |
| 08:05.04 | Mecdemort | doh nvm.. wow |
| 08:05.15 | mitch0 | or I can check for StopTheSpam's presence |
| 08:05.44 | mitch0 | if (not StopTheSpam) then print() end should do it, right? |
| 08:05.50 | Fin | Thrae: that's nice to know - that's what I wondered when I asked earlier about how it worked with libs getting parsed. I still think the idea of addons only existing as an entry in a list of available addons, unless they're enabled, is nice - no possibility of interfering with anything else, and no unecessary stuff being processed. |
| 08:05.58 | Thrae | Fin: Again, there can be poorly coded libraries, but there's no way around this. |
| 08:06.04 | Arrowmaster | mitch0: dont even really need the () |
| 08:06.09 | chead | hehe I have around 150 addon directories.. almost all ace2 addons.. and many are LoD or libs... have a core2duo e6600, 2gb ram winxp... |
| 08:06.32 | mitch0 | arrow: it's my coding style, sorry about that :P |
| 08:06.56 | Arrowmaster | mitch0: just no ;'s pls |
| 08:06.58 | Thrae | Fin: That's what a LoadManager is for. For tiny addons (such as TinyTip), there's no need for it to use a LoadManager, but some bigger addons would benefit from it. Antagonist, for example, uses 16 libraries. |
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| 08:07.11 | Bejitt | ew, leading camel caps for variable names? :( |
| 08:07.46 | krka | that's fairly common in wow lua |
| 08:07.52 | mitch0 | arrow: I've abandoned the semicolons now |
| 08:07.53 | krka | just look at all the functions |
| 08:08.01 | Nemes_ | I don't know if this has already been discussed, but are the svn/wowace admins aware that files.wowace.com is not being updated after SVN changes? |
| 08:08.04 | mitch0 | arrow: but I kinda like the () in if/while |
| 08:08.10 | Fin | Thrae: so, perhaps what I'm suggesting is a stub load manager that loads itself out of embedded libs included with addons. |
| 08:08.11 | Arrowmaster | Nemes_: wait 20 minutes |
| 08:08.17 | ckknight | Bejitt: nothing's wrong with PascalCase for the names of addons, it's recommended. |
| 08:08.20 | Nemes_ | sweet... just thought I'd check ;-) |
| 08:08.26 | Bejitt | i know functions, but using the same for variable names can be icky on readability |
| 08:08.35 | Fin | s/suggesting/thinking of/ |
| 08:08.36 | Thrae | Fin: Lua actually pre-parsing the files to compile them seriously takes up an infintesimal amount of time, especially compared to WoW itself. |
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| 08:08.44 | Arrowmaster | Nemes_: every 20 minutes files gets updated so wait 13 minutes acutally |
| 08:09.04 | Nemes_ | ooh... a change I made 6 hours ago hasn't propagated yet... |
| 08:09.14 | ckknight | Bejitt: StopTheSpam is an addon, not a normal variable |
| 08:09.15 | Arrowmaster | really? |
| 08:09.24 | Nemes_ | yup.... let me triple check... |
| 08:09.35 | CIA-22 | 03mitchell 07Moo * r45371 10RangeCheck-1.0/RangeCheck-1.0/RangeCheck-1.0.lua: RangeCheck-1.0: keep silent if StopTheSpam is around |
| 08:09.36 | Thrae | Fin: There's already an addon dedicated to being a LoadManager, it's called AddonManager. An addon itself cannot be a loadmanager without separating its "modules" into different addons, as addons are not allowed to load files directly. |
| 08:09.50 | mitch0 | hum, I meant to commit that to trunk :( |
| 08:09.50 | Bejitt | bah i'll go back to the corner |
| 08:11.00 | Nemes_ | Arrowmaster: I made an update to NBuffBars and GarbageFu many hours ago and it's not made it into the zips |
| 08:11.27 | Thrae | Fin: Some addons such as Prat, BigWigs, Cartographer, PitBull, etc. handle this by allowing their "modules" to be parsed, but not really instantiated until they are specifically enabled. If coded properly, this method should be very fast and each module takes up a trivial amount of space in memory. Modules which use libs the other modules do not should be separated into separate addons and made LoD. |
| 08:11.29 | Fin | Thrae: this came up because ckknight asked whether an addon should have all its modules disabled if the module core was disabled |
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| 08:12.18 | Fin | Thrae: Skinner does it by getting the user to manually copy the needed bits into a seperate directory :) |
| 08:12.48 | Thrae | Fin: Right, that's the only way if you have like 20 modules and don't want the user to have 20 extra directories. |
| 08:12.59 | Thrae | Fin: That's a WoW limitation. |
| 08:13.05 | Arrowmaster | skinners way of doing it is retarded |
| 08:13.06 | CIA-22 | 03mitchell * r45372 10RangeCheck-1.0/RangeCheck-1.0/RangeCheck-1.0.lua: RangeCheck-1.0: keep silent if StopTheSpam is around |
| 08:13.20 | mitch0 | ramoz: there, it should be silent now |
| 08:13.35 | Fin | WoW doesn't let you specify globs as needed files |
| 08:14.10 | Fin | it's sort of horrible that's it's actually trying to load all the Skinner modules, and just silently failing on the ones that aren't in the SkinMe directory |
| 08:14.22 | LAG|Domo | Hey guys. I was looking for an addon that displays Raid Icons (Skull, Star etc) in Grid. I was linked an addon on wowinterface.com called GridStatusRaidTarget, but it either ain't working or I'm missing something. Anyone got any suggestion to make what I want work? |
| 08:14.31 | Fin | although it does mean there's no wasted processing, which is I guess more important to Jncl |
| 08:14.34 | Thrae | Fin: Well, that's a fault of the addon, not module mechanics in general ;) |
| 08:14.42 | Fin | I think he started doing that because people were complaining that it was too bloated anyway |
| 08:14.44 | Arrowmaster | and when you update skinner if you dont copy all those files over again they dont actually get updated |
| 08:15.01 | Fin | I have a script I run every time I update or install new addons :) |
| 08:15.05 | Nemes_ | I have a batch file that I run after wowaceupdater |
| 08:15.21 | Arrowmaster | what time is it UTC |
| 08:15.36 | ramoz | mitch0: thanks! |
| 08:15.39 | ckknight | 9:15 AM, I think, Arrowmaster |
| 08:15.47 | Fin | Thrae: I think it was sort of a way to make it obvious that no unnecessary stuff is being included, because of all the complaints |
| 08:16.01 | Arrowmaster | ok then files.wowace.com hasnt been updated for 9hours and 15 minutes |
| 08:16.06 | mitch0 | [mitch@pelikan RangeCheck-1.0]$ date --utc |
| 08:16.06 | mitch0 | Tue Jul 31 08:15:58 UTC 2007 |
| 08:16.07 | Nemes_ | Arrowmaster: I'm in Aus so maybe that's why the updates aren't happening... some sort of issue with my local clock being ahead of the svn server clock? |
| 08:16.11 | weab | mitch0: why does it need an print(MAJOR_VERSION .. "-r" .. MINOR_VERSION .. " initialized") in the first place |
| 08:16.19 | weab | why not just remove it altogether |
| 08:16.28 | mitch0 | weab: I like to see it :P |
| 08:16.34 | ckknight | shouldn't be there, mitch0 |
| 08:16.40 | Arrowmaster | Nemes_: no i was just checking the files.wowace.com rss feed and its in UTC |
| 08:16.57 | mitch0 | ckk: the print? or the date? |
| 08:17.04 | ckknight | the print |
| 08:17.11 | Thrae | Fin: You can tell the Skinner guy to do this instead if he really wants -- have the extra directories only contain a TOC file. Make it version 300000 or whatever, as the TOC file will -never- need to be updated. The TOC file will point to an XML file in the main Skinner directory. The XML file itself will then load the needed files. This way you can make all the extra directories LoD and everything would still be centralized. |
| 08:17.14 | weab | wrap it in an if IsDebugging() if you can't live without it |
| 08:17.16 | mitch0 | oh man, you're mean bastards |
| 08:17.29 | ramoz | haha, look what i did mitch0 |
| 08:17.50 | weab | really though. if someone has 50 addons and all of them think they're important enough to print something to chat every time you load the game |
| 08:17.53 | weab | it's just silly |
| 08:17.54 | CIA-22 | 03mitchell * r45373 10RangeCheck-1.0/RangeCheck-1.0/RangeCheck-1.0.lua: RangeCheck-1.0: sulk in the corner instead of announcing successful init |
| 08:18.01 | CIA-22 | 03ammo * r45374 10Violation/ (13 files in 5 dirs): Violation: switch to parser-3.0. could use a bit more tweaking to take the parser-3.0 info tables into account, ID's, overheal etc. |
| 08:18.08 | ckknight | prints should only happen in non-standard situations |
| 08:18.14 | Arrowmaster | Thrae: wow actually does block toc versions with too large of numbers and marks them as out of date |
| 08:18.18 | ckknight | otherwise it's annoying as Vista's Cancel/Allow prompt |
| 08:18.20 | Thrae | Fin: The way people would make the modules LoD is by copying the directory (which has the single TOC file in it) to the main Addons folder. |
| 08:18.25 | Fin | Thrae: I think that's how sylvanaar makes the Prat modules possible to be LoD |
| 08:18.27 | Thrae | Arrowmaster: Really? Didn't use to |
| 08:18.42 | Arrowmaster | Thrae: perty sure it does now |
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| 08:19.19 | Fin | Thrae: and, I would, but I really don't want to poke my nose in there. his system seems to be working and acceptable to most people, so probably best to leave it - in my opinion :) |
| 08:19.36 | Arrowmaster | no he just made a stub with a saved var and uses the saved var for figuring out what to load and what not to |
| 08:19.54 | mitch0 | [ammo]: why is DamageMeters spying disabled in the default Vio config? is DM so inaccurate? |
| 08:20.30 | Arrowmaster | ckknight: poke whoever about files.wowace.com not updating for us pls |
| 08:21.14 | Fin | Thrae: that is what I'm referring to |
| 08:21.27 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight 07ckknight * r45375 10Joker/LibJoker-1.0/LibJoker-1.0.lua: |
| 08:21.27 | CIA-22 | LibJoker-1.0 - expose .addon_mt. |
| 08:21.27 | CIA-22 | - fix a bug in newList(...) |
| 08:21.28 | CIA-22 | - make it so mixins can't be double-specified. |
| 08:21.28 | CIA-22 | - add :IsLibraryMixin("name"), checks if a library is a proper mixin or not. |
| 08:21.28 | CIA-22 | - add :ManualEnable and :ManualDisable, internal methods. |
| 08:21.32 | Fin | er, -that |
| 08:21.39 | ckknight | Arrowmaster: Kaelten's offline |
| 08:21.47 | Arrowmaster | i know |
| 08:22.18 | [Ammo] | mitch0: it's completely broken |
| 08:22.20 | Arrowmaster | im sure you have ways leaving him a message that he will get when he wakes up |
| 08:22.29 | [Ammo] | mitch0: and I cba to figure out in what way |
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| 08:22.49 | mitch0 | [ammo] fair enough :) |
| 08:22.50 | weab | damagemeters is, or your spying is? |
| 08:23.08 | mitch0 | hope some future patch brakes it beyond recognition so everyone would install something better |
| 08:23.21 | mitch0 | breaks even |
| 08:24.03 | Thrae | mitch0: You could make an addon which messages people using DamageMeters and tells them the addon is stupid and they must get an alternative. |
| 08:24.05 | weab | if it's dm you mean as i suspect, it brings a smile to my face |
| 08:24.42 | mitch0 | eh... |
| 08:25.22 | Arrowmaster | ckknight: oh yeah are some of the special hidden features of ace2 going to carry over? |
| 08:25.53 | Antiarc | ...wtf |
| 08:25.53 | Antiarc | http://inventorspot.com/articles/usb_keyboard_bra_angel_kitty_5949 |
| 08:25.57 | Shabador | ckknight, Just posted a request in the CowTip-thread. Asking if you can implement support for bEQL or if this is something Bayi has to do in his mod. |
| 08:26.14 | ckknight | what is it? |
| 08:26.18 | mitch0 | yesterday we talkled about some addon incorrectly hooking my OnMouseDown, and that the proper way of handling that would be to "unhook" then. The question is, how can I set the original method back with rawset()? frame:rawset("OnMouseOver", func) ? or it has some other name, like "Script_OnMouseOver"? |
| 08:26.20 | ckknight | Arrowmaster: such as? |
| 08:26.25 | ckknight | Arrowmaster: the Orwellian stuff? |
| 08:26.35 | ckknight | or what? |
| 08:26.41 | Arrowmaster | versionchecker mostly |
| 08:26.53 | Shabador | ckknight, Bayi's Extended Quest Log. It has an option to output questobjectives in tooltips when you hover over mobs. |
| 08:27.00 | Arrowmaster | its soo useful to me |
| 08:27.03 | ckknight | hrm, it should work automatically |
| 08:27.13 | ckknight | Arrowmaster: oh yea, that'll be in there. That'll fall under the "Orwellian" category |
| 08:27.13 | [Ammo] | the problem with damagemeters it can send an immense amount of data at the end of a fight |
| 08:27.20 | mitch0 | antiarc: that's sick |
| 08:27.26 | ckknight | being able to spy on people and such |
| 08:27.31 | [Ammo] | without giving any indication that the users was using it prior to that |
| 08:27.32 | Shabador | ckknight, Should, but doesn't. Unless it's some dogtag you need to put in? |
| 08:27.34 | Thrae | Shabador: If coded properly, it should work fine. QuestsFu works fine, and it has the same feature as the addon you spoke of. |
| 08:27.49 | [Ammo] | so basically violation collects combatlog data for that user and then BAM 2 million extra damage |
| 08:27.51 | Kemayo | Shabador: Given that it's an acing of EQL, I assume it's using the old-and-busted fashion. |
| 08:27.54 | [Ammo] | -> bonkers data |
| 08:27.55 | Shabador | Thrae, Ok. Then it's probably on Bayi's end there's problems. |
| 08:27.56 | ckknight | Shabador: yea, QuestsFu works fine, bEQL works fine unless something insane is happening |
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| 08:28.47 | Shabador | Guess I'll get QuestFu for that part then. untill Bayi fixes it. Thanks for the info. |
| 08:29.06 | mitch0 | ckk: did you have any luck busting the raidframes/partyframes issue? or didn't bother with it? |
| 08:29.19 | ckknight | mitch0: I looked, I believe it's an issue with you doing it in combat. |
| 08:29.25 | ckknight | mitch0: which you shouldn't do |
| 08:29.33 | Kemayo | My evil quest log empire slowly expands. |
| 08:29.37 | mitch0 | I'm outta combat when I do it |
| 08:30.02 | mitch0 | ckk: I did it _after_ combat though, if that makes any difference |
| 08:30.10 | mitch0 | seemed to work fine before combat |
| 08:30.23 | weab | speaking of quest logs |
| 08:30.29 | mitch0 | besides, it just should break apart if I do it in combat |
| 08:30.43 | chead | [Ammo]: in Violation is it planned to add 'this fight' data? |
| 08:30.53 | weab | is there no addon that tracks party members quests |
| 08:31.10 | weab | i mean i know questsfu will put the objectives in the messageframe as they complete it |
| 08:32.15 | Kemayo | weab: QuestsFu actually will do that. If you enable the PartyLog module then you can see the quest tracker of everyone whose status you're seeing in the messageframe there. |
| 08:32.36 | CIA-22 | 03mitchell 07Moo * r45376 10RangeCheck-1.0/RangeCheck-1.0/RangeCheck-1.0.lua: RangeCheck-1.0: keep sulking bit in sync with trunk for easier merge later |
| 08:32.40 | Kemayo | weab: With the provision that it's disabled-by-default because I haven't quite finished it yet, so it looks very unpolished. |
| 08:32.51 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight 07ckknight * r45377 10Joker/LibJokerModuleCore-1.0/ (. LibJokerModuleCore-1.0.lua LibJokerModuleCore-1.0.toc): (log message trimmed) |
| 08:32.51 | CIA-22 | LibJokerModuleCore-1.0 - initial commit, resembles AceModuleCore-2.0 quite a bit, a few things changed. |
| 08:32.51 | CIA-22 | e.g. :IsModule and :HasModule merged into :HasModule. |
| 08:32.51 | CIA-22 | - :SetModuleClass doesn't exist, as Joker doesn't use classes. |
| 08:32.52 | CIA-22 | - :IterateModules() => :IterateModules([enabledOnly]) |
| 08:32.54 | CIA-22 | - :IterateModulesWithMethod("method") => :IterateModulesWithMethod(enabledOnly, "method") |
| 08:32.56 | CIA-22 | - :CallMethodOnAllModules("method", ...) => :CallMethodOnAllModules(enabledOnly, "method", ...) |
| 08:33.12 | ckknight | mitch0: no, it doesn't check if you're in combat or not, because the option to toggle it does that for you, calling it manually breaks it |
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| 08:33.28 | weab | Kemayo: it uses the questfu tracker? |
| 08:33.47 | mitch0 | ckk: erm, since you refuse to add a proper keybinding for it, would it be possible to lift that check into that function? |
| 08:34.02 | Fin | Kemayo: I think the problem might be because I'm using Mars Quest Organizer |
| 08:34.09 | ckknight | mitch0: um, you add it and see if it fixes it |
| 08:34.15 | ckknight | if InCombatLockdown() then return end |
| 08:34.16 | Kemayo | weab: Right now it's a seperate tablet. I'm planning to fold it in, though. |
| 08:34.18 | ckknight | to the top |
| 08:34.22 | mitch0 | ok |
| 08:34.38 | weab | Kemayo: i don't like your tracker :( |
| 08:34.44 | Kemayo | Fin: Almost certainly. If it's moving things around and then not providing proper data to the functions. |
| 08:34.54 | Kemayo | weab: How can you hurt my feelings like that? ;_; |
| 08:35.12 | weab | sorry! |
| 08:35.17 | Kemayo | weab: Anyway, what don't you like about it? |
| 08:35.39 | weab | mostly the text is too small |
| 08:35.48 | Arrowmaster | lol |
| 08:35.52 | cryogen | anyone got an example of a macro using the button conditional? |
| 08:36.02 | Kemayo | weab: Ah. I recommend increasing the text size in the options, then. |
| 08:36.15 | weab | lol |
| 08:36.31 | weab | sorry. never bothered to look for it because the blizzard tracker works fine :x |
| 08:36.39 | mitch0 | ckk: is it possible in AceConsole/AceOptionsTable to define a "hidden" option (type='execute', to be exact) that is not displayed when all the other options are, but is still "callable"? hidden=true seems to disable it totally |
| 08:36.46 | weab | for my purposes anyway |
| 08:36.55 | ckknight | mitch0: hidden means disabled |
| 08:37.09 | Kemayo | weab: Fair enough. As I recall you can only get to it by right-clicking the tracker, and not from the menu. |
| 08:37.11 | ckknight | mitch0: you could make a specific slash command... |
| 08:37.16 | mitch0 | ckk: what does 'disabled' mean then? :) |
| 08:37.17 | Kemayo | Which counts as being fairly hidden. |
| 08:37.31 | ckknight | mitch0: disabled but it shows up, grayed out |
| 08:37.39 | ckknight | oh, btw, I'm gonna be moving the :IsActive()/:ToggleActive() stuff from AceDB into the addon core, I'm thinking |
| 08:37.57 | weab | i also seem to have managed to make questsfu give me an error by enabling your tracker |
| 08:37.58 | weab | :p |
| 08:38.08 | Arrowmaster | so we can standby addons that dont have a db? |
| 08:38.17 | Arrowmaster | even if it doesnt save? |
| 08:38.21 | ckknight | Arrowmaster: yea, but they'll be enabled every time you login |
| 08:38.23 | Fin | Kemayo: http://fin.pastey.net/71636 |
| 08:38.24 | ckknight | I'm thinking |
| 08:38.25 | weab | don't you hate users? |
| 08:38.31 | Arrowmaster | good idea |
| 08:38.59 | ckknight | also if you call :IsActive() on modules, it'll give you the correct result, as the core specifies |
| 08:39.03 | Kemayo | weab: I recommend telling me the error so I can work out what caused it. |
| 08:39.15 | ckknight | so module:IsActive() => core:IsModuleActive(module) |
| 08:40.05 | Fin | Kemayo: the addon seems to work without changes with DoubleWide, EQL, UberQuest, and nQuestLog, and hasn't been updated since april. I'm not saying it's anyone's fault, but it was doing pretty well so far :) |
| 08:42.05 | Kemayo | Fin: Go ahead and commit your fix, then. |
| 08:42.30 | Fin | Kemayo: OK. it's just to hide the errors, everything seems to be working otherwise. |
| 08:43.24 | Kemayo | Yeah... since it's only going to come up for people using other quest logs, and only (hopefully) on quests they've done weird things to, I'm not terribly bothered. :) |
| 08:43.32 | mitch0 | so, can anyone tell me what's the rawset equivalent of frame:SetScript("Foo", bar) ? |
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| 08:43.38 | abbat_w | hi guys |
| 08:43.43 | ckknight | mitch0: rawset? |
| 08:43.48 | ckknight | hey abbat_w |
| 08:43.52 | ckknight | mitch0: I don't see how it applies |
| 08:43.53 | abbat_w | ckknight ;) |
| 08:44.08 | mitch0 | ckk: as in frame:rawset("Script_Foo", bar) |
| 08:44.24 | ckknight | ...no |
| 08:44.27 | abbat_w | ckknight, what is plans in nearest future? I hope Parrot finished? |
| 08:44.31 | ckknight | doesn't exist |
| 08:44.38 | mitch0 | basically, what is the function name generated from "Foo" in setscript? |
| 08:44.47 | ckknight | mitch0: it's in C userdata |
| 08:44.49 | ckknight | abbat_w: Parrot is "basically" done |
| 08:44.55 | ckknight | abbat_w: currently working on Joker |
| 08:44.59 | abbat_w | Oh |
| 08:45.02 | ckknight | abbat_w: which may or may not become Ace3 |
| 08:45.12 | abbat_w | oh... |
| 08:45.21 | pb_ee1 | Joker --> Ace3? |
| 08:45.26 | ckknight | basically |
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| 08:45.30 | ckknight | Joker's a codename |
| 08:45.34 | abbat_w | Joker... Need to take some info about it ;) |
| 08:45.35 | pb_ee1 | what would be the main changes? |
| 08:45.40 | mitch0 | ckk: oh. then how can I reliably "unhook" my frame's Foo script if some dumb addon hooks it badly but also fiddles with my metatable? |
| 08:45.44 | ckknight | pb_ee1: sane API, slimmer |
| 08:45.52 | abbat_w | ckknight, what Joker can do? |
| 08:46.08 | ckknight | abbat_w: nothing more than Ace2, it's just "nicer" |
| 08:46.09 | pb_ee1 | I mean, what's "wrong" with Ace2 atm? |
| 08:46.25 | ckknight | inconsistencies in method naming, it's bloated unnecessarily |
| 08:46.31 | abbat_w | for arenas |
| 08:46.35 | pb_ee1 | i suppose we have to check the code to understand what you are talking about :p |
| 08:46.39 | ckknight | I can't fix certain things without breaking it |
| 08:46.44 | ckknight | so why not just break it all? |
| 08:46.48 | ckknight | pb_ee1: it's all fully documented |
| 08:46.59 | pb_ee1 | Joker is already documented? |
| 08:47.02 | ckknight | but Kaelten won't switch on autodoc support for branches |
| 08:47.12 | ckknight | so the documentation is in the code itself, above all the functions |
| 08:47.23 | ckknight | pb_ee1: yep, I decided it'd be best to doc right away |
| 08:47.28 | abbat_w | autodoc... heh, sounds like POD documentation in Perl ;) |
| 08:47.36 | pb_ee1 | that's better yes :p |
| 08:47.44 | Fisker | zomg will it have remote execution ckknight ? |
| 08:47.48 | ckknight | all in all, the code is much cleaner |
| 08:47.59 | ckknight | no, Fisker, but I'm not taking out the Orwellian spy techniques |
| 08:48.15 | CIA-22 | 03fin * r45378 10FuBar_QuestsFu/QuestsFu.lua: |
| 08:48.15 | CIA-22 | FuBar_QuestsFu: |
| 08:48.15 | CIA-22 | - added line to set numGot to 0 if supplied as nil for some reason to avoid errors about nil values |
| 08:48.16 | ckknight | in fact, I may add some more |
| 08:48.40 | ckknight | e.g. spying on talents |
| 08:49.01 | ckknight | I'll be taking out whatever I find unnecessary along the way |
| 08:49.16 | ckknight | <cough>OO</cough> |
| 08:49.21 | ckknight | among other things |
| 08:49.34 | Fin | hmm? :) |
| 08:49.35 | Arrowmaster | wah? OO removed? |
| 08:49.58 | ckknight | Arrowmaster: basically. It's a lot cleaner now because of it |
| 08:50.13 | ckknight | I'm thinking it can be a 3rd-party library |
| 08:50.16 | ckknight | without any issue |
| 08:50.20 | ckknight | well, sorta |
| 08:50.29 | mitch0 | gah |
| 08:50.34 | Fin | that didn't make much sense |
| 08:50.40 | ckknight | what didn't? |
| 08:50.44 | pb_ee1 | will addons need a complete rewriting or just an "adapatation" of the code? |
| 08:50.49 | ckknight | adaptation |
| 08:50.54 | ckknight | conversion won't be too painful |
| 08:51.09 | ckknight | well, unless a feature was completely removed |
| 08:51.13 | pb_ee1 | cool. a lot? i mean, if one addon uses only ace2, converting to joker will be hard or quick? :p^ |
| 08:51.26 | pb_ee1 | i see, cool |
| 08:51.28 | ckknight | there'll be a guide, it'll be mostly find/replace |
| 08:51.29 | Fin | "it can be a 3rd party library without any issues, well sorta" <-- that :D |
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| 08:51.34 | abbat_w | pb_ee1, possible some refactoring need ;) |
| 08:51.37 | ckknight | Fin: the OO library |
| 08:51.55 | Fin | the existing one? |
| 08:52.00 | ckknight | yea |
| 08:52.03 | Fin | aha |
| 08:52.06 | Arrowmaster | although i would discurrage people from converting addons and let the authors do it.... |
| 08:52.19 | Fin | I tell you what |
| 08:52.21 | ckknight | Arrowmaster: oh yea, definitely |
| 08:52.31 | Fin | it would be nice to know which addons are working or not |
| 08:52.41 | Fin | actually that reminds me, I want to try something |
| 08:52.47 | pb_ee1 | Arrowmaster: sure, i didn't mean i would do it for addons that are not mine |
| 08:52.56 | Arrowmaster | other people would |
| 08:52.57 | Fin | has anyone ever tried installing every addon on files.wowace.com? |
| 08:53.15 | pb_ee1 | rofl |
| 08:53.16 | CIA-22 | 03ascalia * r45379 10AtlasLoot_SetsandPvP/ (sets.en.lua sets.tw.lua): |
| 08:53.16 | CIA-22 | AtlasLoot_SetsandPvP: |
| 08:53.16 | CIA-22 | - set loot update |
| 08:53.16 | Arrowmaster | thats the biggest cause for all the poorly written ace2 mods |
| 08:53.20 | pb_ee1 | what's the point of doing thata? |
| 08:53.25 | pb_ee1 | s/thata/that/ |
| 08:53.26 | abbat_w | every? not, but i'm install about 70% of addons ;) |
| 08:53.35 | abbat_w | btw, half won't work ;) |
| 08:53.37 | Fin | for the sake of curiosity |
| 08:53.49 | Fin | hmm |
| 08:53.52 | pb_ee1 | Arrowmaster: is this really an issue on ace2 atm? |
| 08:54.03 | abbat_w | 30% out of date and don't have any support |
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| 08:55.50 | abbat_w | btw ckk |
| 08:56.00 | abbat_w | i don't try this, but maybe you know answer |
| 08:56.01 | ckknight | hrm? |
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| 08:56.17 | abbat_w | WitchHunt doesn't have any filters but use Parrot for output |
| 08:56.32 | abbat_w | Are Parrot supression can supress some WitchHunt messages? |
| 08:57.00 | ckknight | it should |
| 08:57.09 | abbat_w | Ok, nice. |
| 08:57.15 | abbat_w | Thanks ;) |
| 08:59.13 | abbat_w | And maybe someone know. Now blizzard change something and i can't see who cast Counterspell or Spelllock |
| 08:59.31 | abbat_w | I just see 'you are afflicted by counterspell-silenced' |
| 08:59.43 | abbat_w | Any way to detect who cast this spell? |
| 09:01.39 | Fin | they should make it so that you get silenced in the in-game voice chat as well |
| 09:01.45 | Fin | when they add that |
| 09:04.42 | theoddone33 | non WoW related: ingmar bergman died :( |
| 09:05.14 | CIA-22 | 03kemayo * r45380 10FuBar_QuestsFu/Tracker/Tracker.lua: |
| 09:05.14 | CIA-22 | FuBar_QuestsFu: |
| 09:05.14 | CIA-22 | -Tweak to the quest sorting function that'll (hopefully) fix a weird presumably timing-dependent issue that's been reported, but which I can't reproduce. |
| 09:05.40 | Dustwhisper| | what does #Varname in lua do? The # that is |
| 09:06.04 | abbat_w | Fin, i want to track counterspell/spellock cooldowns at arenas |
| 09:06.39 | theoddone33 | # is the length operator for tables and strings |
| 09:06.40 | theoddone33 | according to wikipedia |
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| 09:07.07 | theoddone33 | Dustwhisper|: see above, if you missed it |
| 09:07.42 | Dustwhisper| | oh ok cool thx |
| 09:09.46 | NM|Xinhuan | do you know the operator precedence of # ? |
| 09:10.28 | NM|Xinhuan | does #frame:GetText() return the size of frame (if it has a numeric indexed table in it) or the string? |
| 09:10.30 | Fin | abbat_w: yes, I know. I think people should actually physically be silenced on voice chat as well, when they get silenced in-game. I would find that amusing. |
| 09:12.16 | theoddone33 | heh ":" isn't in the operator precedence list |
| 09:12.22 | theoddone33 | good game lua |
| 09:13.05 | ckknight | theoddone33: is .? |
| 09:13.07 | NM|Xinhuan | i dunno, i assumed : is just a syntatic sugar for . |
| 09:13.14 | theoddone33 | ckknight: it's not |
| 09:13.15 | NM|Xinhuan | with a implicit "self" |
| 09:13.21 | theoddone33 | also . isn't listed |
| 09:13.21 | ckknight | it is, NM|Xinhuan |
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| 09:13.28 | NM|Xinhuan | and . isn't in the operator precedence list either haha |
| 09:13.36 | theoddone33 | .. is listed |
| 09:13.37 | NM|Xinhuan | neither is [] |
| 09:14.12 | theoddone33 | so that makes the answer "try it and see" |
| 09:14.13 | theoddone33 | heh |
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| 09:15.13 | krka | : isn't just syntactic sugar, tbh |
| 09:15.51 | Wobin | It's not an operator |
| 09:16.12 | theoddone33 | . is syntactic sugar for [] |
| 09:16.40 | CIA-22 | 03mitchell * r45381 10RangeDisplay/ (8 files): |
| 09:16.40 | CIA-22 | RangeDisplay: |
| 09:16.40 | CIA-22 | <PROTECTED> |
| 09:16.40 | CIA-22 | <PROTECTED> |
| 09:16.42 | theoddone33 | which I'm guessing has highest precedence |
| 09:16.52 | NM|Xinhuan | well none of those are listed |
| 09:16.56 | NM|Xinhuan | heh |
| 09:16.57 | krka | : is an operator, i suppose |
| 09:17.04 | krka | err, no wait |
| 09:17.07 | krka | what is it? |
| 09:17.16 | krka | . and : generate different opcodes |
| 09:17.22 | krka | if anyone is interested |
| 09:17.23 | abbat_w | Fin, it's be usefull if me (mage) or our healers (paladin for example) can see CD of enemy abilities which can do spell interrupt. If emeny don't have cd, healer must know about this and be careful ;) |
| 09:17.35 | krka | : is slightly more efficient |
| 09:17.44 | Wobin | #frame:GetText() is the same as #frame.GetText(frame) which is the same as #frame[GetText](frame) |
| 09:17.55 | krka | nope |
| 09:17.55 | Wobin | er "GetText" |
| 09:17.59 | krka | #frame["Get... right |
| 09:18.14 | NM|Xinhuan | still don't know the precedence though ;p |
| 09:18.25 | krka | #frame:GetText() is compiled to different opcodes than #frame.GetText(frame) |
| 09:18.34 | Wobin | () goes first |
| 09:18.40 | theoddone33 | the BNF makes me think that it's #(frame:GetText()) |
| 09:18.46 | krka | yes |
| 09:18.49 | Wobin | zactly, theoddone33 |
| 09:18.50 | krka | that's how it works |
| 09:19.40 | theoddone33 | man BNF brings back memories |
| 09:19.50 | theoddone33 | I miss college a little |
| 09:19.52 | NM|Xinhuan | would there be any case where if you search and replaced all cases of strlen() with #, it wont work? |
| 09:20.10 | theoddone33 | any table? |
| 09:20.28 | NM|Xinhuan | you wouldn't have used strlen() on a table |
| 09:20.37 | NM|Xinhuan | but getn() |
| 09:20.38 | theoddone33 | oh I read it backwards |
| 09:20.57 | NM|Xinhuan | its like both those functions rolled into an operator |
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| 09:21.51 | fireglow | how do i get cowtip to look like this: http://homepage.ntlworld.com/jonreid/wow/cowtip.png :S |
| 09:22.05 | theoddone33 | heh neither my friend's server nor my local box have lua installed :( |
| 09:22.18 | NM|Xinhuan | so there's a little note in the lua reference |
| 09:22.22 | NM|Xinhuan | - Function table.setn was deprecated. Function table.getn corresponds to the new length operator (#); use the operator instead of the function. |
| 09:22.33 | NM|Xinhuan | does # correspond to strlen? |
| 09:22.35 | Wobin | fireglow: with a lot of work? |
| 09:22.47 | Arrowmaster | mitch0: just looked at your last rangedisplay commit, you could have just used 'frame' instead of 'self.rangeFrame' |
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| 09:23.37 | krka | NM|Xinhuan: i think the string metatable has assigned __len to strlen |
| 09:24.11 | theoddone33 | fireglow: I dunno if this is true or not, but maybe http://homepage.ntlworld.com/jonreid/wow/CowTip.lua helps |
| 09:24.20 | theoddone33 | I'm not actually sure how cowtip works or what that file is for |
| 09:24.34 | fireglow | theoddone33: yeah i found that too but i dont know what to do with it |
| 09:24.42 | theoddone33 | I'm guessing it goes in the WTF folder |
| 09:24.47 | Arrowmaster | it does |
| 09:25.57 | Shabador | fireglow, Seems like you also should install Clearfont2 and it's fontpackage as those fonts on that screenshot are not standard WoW. |
| 09:26.07 | mitch0 | arrowmaster: I know, but some bloody addon is hooking me badly and doesn't pass any args. |
| 09:27.45 | fireglow | Shabador: jup, got that |
| 09:27.55 | Arrowmaster | mitch0: solution, at the bottem of your createFrame() do rangeFrame.SetScript = function() end |
| 09:28.01 | CIA-22 | 03kemayo * r45382 10FuBar_QuestsFu/Tracker/Tracker.lua: |
| 09:28.01 | CIA-22 | FuBar_QuestsFu: |
| 09:28.01 | CIA-22 | -Tracker: Make sure to call QuestWatch_Update() after messing with quest watches. |
| 09:28.33 | Dustwhisper| | Can't for the life of me get a ScrollFrame to scroll horizontaly nor actually get the scrollbar to look good, guess a slider and coding all the clipping myself is easier =D |
| 09:28.34 | Shabador | fireglow, Then you should be fine by just replacing that CowTip.lua with the one that allready exists in your WTF/somefolders/SavedVariables/ |
| 09:28.50 | mitch0 | arrowmaster: my solution is a little less destructive :) |
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| 09:28.58 | NM|Xinhuan | ya dust, there's nothing in wow that has horizontal scrolling ;p |
| 09:29.17 | Arrowmaster | mitch0: if it was me i would figure out what addons doing it and go bitch out the author |
| 09:29.19 | Bejitt | when is kaelten usually on? |
| 09:29.32 | NM|Xinhuan | you'll have to look at the base FrameXML code for the vertical scrollbar |
| 09:29.38 | NM|Xinhuan | and write your own for horizontal |
| 09:29.43 | Thrae | Bejitt: Send him a botmail via purl |
| 09:29.55 | fireglow | Shabador: yes, did that, works perfectly |
| 09:29.56 | NM|Xinhuan | because the scrollframe object does have methods to return a horizontal scrolling value as well as a vertical oen |
| 09:30.05 | fireglow | now i need to find the autor to thank him :> |
| 09:30.39 | Arrowmaster | mitch0: grrr you did self:UnregisterAllEvents(); in OnDisable |
| 09:30.41 | Dustwhisper| | what is this FauxScrollView thing btw ? |
| 09:30.57 | NM|Xinhuan | check FrameXML lol |
| 09:31.02 | NM|Xinhuan | extract it out of wow |
| 09:31.37 | mitch0 | strange that nobody suggested color-coding by range for RangeDisplay. guess my userbase is just not large enough yet ;) |
| 09:31.49 | NM|Xinhuan | another question, which is fastest? s:len(), strlen(s), string.len(s) or #s ? |
| 09:32.11 | mitch0 | arrowmaster: what's wrong with that? |
| 09:32.31 | Bejitt | i think #s is ... maybe |
| 09:32.40 | Arrowmaster | mitch0: its already done for you by the framework |
| 09:33.01 | mitch0 | arrowmaster: better safe then sorry is my stance on it :) |
| 09:33.09 | Arrowmaster | s:len() or #s would be faster than strlen(s) and string.len(s) i think |
| 09:33.16 | Arrowmaster | mitch0: theres a ; too! |
| 09:33.21 | mitch0 | where?! |
| 09:33.27 | Arrowmaster | on that line |
| 09:33.31 | NM|Xinhuan | s:len() involves a metamethod lookup doesn't it? |
| 09:33.33 | Arrowmaster | self:UnregisterAllEvents(); |
| 09:33.38 | mitch0 | ah. :) |
| 09:33.48 | mitch0 | well, are you 100% sure it'll get called for me? |
| 09:34.00 | Arrowmaster | strlen(s) and string.len(s) are both global lookups though |
| 09:34.15 | Arrowmaster | mitch0: 100% |
| 09:34.18 | mitch0 | unless you cache it |
| 09:34.36 | Arrowmaster | mitch0: one day i may poke with your branch |
| 09:34.38 | NM|Xinhuan | well assume you cache a local copy of those global lookups |
| 09:34.48 | NM|Xinhuan | which would be fastest in theory? hehe |
| 09:34.57 | haste | NM|Xinhuan: # is the fastest |
| 09:35.04 | CIA-22 | 03mitchell * r45383 10RangeDisplay/RangeDisplay.lua: RangeDisplay: removed unnecessary UnregisterAllEvents() call |
| 09:35.05 | Thrae | NM|Xinhuan: I don't think objects have Lua-instantiated metamethods until they're queried |
| 09:35.19 | mitch0 | arrow: what do you have in minid? |
| 09:35.33 | NM|Xinhuan | "The string library provides all its functions inside the table string. It also sets a metatable for strings where the __index field points to the string table." <-- from the reference library |
| 09:35.35 | mitch0 | mind even |
| 09:35.46 | NM|Xinhuan | from the lua reference that is |
| 09:35.49 | Arrowmaster | mitch0: the OnUpdate could be a schudueledevent |
| 09:35.58 | Thrae | NM|Xinhuan: Yeah, but I bet the byte code optimizes that |
| 09:36.19 | mitch0 | arrow: it could, but would it be that much better? |
| 09:36.34 | haste | NM|Xinhuan: the list of speed would be: string.len(str) < str:len() < local string_len(str) < #str |
| 09:37.15 | krka | hmm... really? |
| 09:37.33 | haste | quick testing says so |
| 09:37.36 | krka | i would guess #str is slower than strlen |
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| 09:37.38 | mitch0 | why would str:len() be faster then string.len(str)? |
| 09:37.40 | krka | maybe it's hardcoded |
| 09:37.47 | Arrowmaster | mitch0: not sure since you do hide the frame on disable, hmm i dont think that self:OnProfileEnable() needs to be there |
| 09:37.55 | krka | you tried local strlen = strlen; strlen(s) |
| 09:38.18 | CIA-22 | 03ascalia * r45384 10AtlasLoot_RepFactions/ (rep.lua rep.tw.lua): |
| 09:38.18 | CIA-22 | AtlasLoot_RepFactions: |
| 09:38.18 | CIA-22 | - patch 2.2 loot updates and corrections |
| 09:38.21 | haste | read what I wrote :p |
| 09:38.34 | mitch0 | arrow: I stole some of that profile handling stuff from Quartz, not exactly sure what's really going on behind the curtains |
| 09:39.03 | NM|Xinhuan | hmm interesting |
| 09:39.21 | mitch0 | arrow: or you mean in OnEnable? |
| 09:39.29 | Arrowmaster | haste: why would string.len(str) < local string_len(str) |
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| 09:39.35 | Arrowmaster | mitch0: ment in the onenable |
| 09:39.49 | mitch0 | well, dunno if it gets called automagically for sure |
| 09:39.54 | mitch0 | again, I played it safe... |
| 09:40.07 | haste | Arrowmaster: global lookup + table lookup vs upvalue |
| 09:40.35 | krka | weird, that's right |
| 09:40.42 | mitch0 | arrow: and even if it gets called automatically, I'm not sure it's called before my OnEnable (which needs to be the case) |
| 09:41.12 | Arrowmaster | so wouldnt string.len(str) take longer than local string_len(str) meaning string.len(str) > local string_len(str) in time taken |
| 09:41.37 | Arrowmaster | or am i reading what you said backwards |
| 09:41.50 | NM|Xinhuan | i think he used slowest to fastest, rather than fastest to slowest in his answer ;p |
| 09:41.57 | NM|Xinhuan | where < means better |
| 09:42.09 | Arrowmaster | yeah im thinking that now |
| 09:42.23 | haste | :3 |
| 09:43.19 | Arrowmaster | mitch0: some of your stuff is just a little weird compared to other ace mods |
| 09:43.39 | mitch0 | arrow: maybe I'm a little weird compared to other ppl :) |
| 09:43.47 | mitch0 | arrow: I'm not as weird as ckk though |
| 09:44.00 | mitch0 | just take a look at DogTag :) |
| 09:44.12 | Arrowmaster | mitch0: oh your PLAYER_TARGET_CHANGED doesnt need an IsActive check in it |
| 09:44.28 | krka | ah right... the VM does special treatment for strings |
| 09:44.28 | mitch0 | arrow: I know |
| 09:44.34 | krka | i thought it was metatable... guess i was wrong |
| 09:44.34 | Arrowmaster | since the event gets unregistered on disable and registered on enable |
| 09:44.46 | mitch0 | but what if some weird thing happens? :) |
| 09:45.14 | Arrowmaster | lol |
| 09:45.40 | mitch0 | like, AceEvent forgets to call UnregisterAllEvents for me (after my last commit) :) |
| 09:45.50 | Arrowmaster | i would just change self:RegisterEvent("PLAYER_TARGET_CHANGED") to self:RegisterEvent("PLAYER_TARGET_CHANGED", "targetChanged") |
| 09:46.43 | mitch0 | arrow: I like to keep my event methods this way so that I see what events I handle more clearly |
| 09:47.14 | mitch0 | PLAYER_TARGET_CHANGED doesn't get called so often as that extra indirection would make much of a differenct |
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| 09:47.24 | mitch0 | s/t$/e/ |
| 09:47.31 | Arrowmaster | well that or move the targetChanged to PLAYER_TARGET_CHANGED |
| 09:47.49 | Fin | in Tablet, for :SetFontSizePercent(parent, scale), why do you have to specify the parent? |
| 09:48.08 | abbat_w | ahah ;) |
| 09:48.19 | Fin | I want to set the font size for a plugin's tooltip, but I can't figure out how |
| 09:48.22 | mitch0 | arrow: I just like it this way |
| 09:48.24 | Arrowmaster | i dont know i consider target change to be a place to optimize, ive gotten quite a bit of interface lag on changing targets before |
| 09:48.45 | mitch0 | hohum |
| 09:49.08 | mitch0 | well, I'll look it over a bit, maybe I'll remove the IsActive check |
| 09:51.15 | CIA-22 | 03snago * r45385 10Damnation/ (. Damnation.lua Damnation.toc embeds.xml): |
| 09:51.15 | CIA-22 | Damnation: initial commit |
| 09:51.15 | CIA-22 | - Automatic removal of Blessing of Salvation. |
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| 09:53.15 | CIA-22 | 03daviesh * r45386 10Babble-2.2/Babble-Faction-2.2/Babble-Faction-2.2.lua: |
| 09:53.15 | CIA-22 | Babble-2.2: |
| 09:53.15 | CIA-22 | Added Magram and Gelkis centaur clans upon request |
| 09:55.01 | CIA-22 | 03mitchell * r45387 10RangeDisplay/RangeDisplay.lua: RangeDisplay: code cleanup to make Arrowmaster grunt less :) |
| 09:55.15 | Arrowmaster | mitch0: ah ha, almost got confused tehre for a moment trying to figure out how the frame possition was correct on load if the frame got created using the defaults before the defaults were registered then i noticed the applysetting in the onprofileenable |
| 09:55.59 | Arrowmaster | like i said your profile stuff is kinda weird |
| 09:56.28 | mitch0 | sec |
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| 10:01.47 | Arrowmaster | is your waterfall register ment to use the colors from the DefaultDB after youve done RegisterDefaults? |
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| 10:02.01 | Arrowmaster | meaning its always going to be the default? |
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| 10:03.43 | CIA-22 | 03snago * r45388 10Damnation/: |
| 10:03.43 | CIA-22 | Damnation: |
| 10:03.43 | CIA-22 | - Fix externals |
| 10:07.52 | CIA-22 | 03athou * r45389 10FuBar_RaidBuffFu/ (FuBar_RaidBuffFu.lua localization.lua): |
| 10:07.52 | CIA-22 | FuBar_RaidBuffFu: |
| 10:07.52 | CIA-22 | - added an option to delete a buff |
| 10:07.53 | CIA-22 | - added an option to only check a list of groups |
| 10:07.53 | CIA-22 | - raid announce tuned |
| 10:07.53 | CIA-22 | - several optimizations |
| 10:07.55 | CIA-22 | - lot of bug fixing |
| 10:09.21 | CIA-22 | 03athou * r45390 10FuBar_RaidBuffFu/FuBar_RaidBuffFu.lua: |
| 10:09.21 | CIA-22 | FuBar_RaidBuffFu: |
| 10:09.21 | CIA-22 | - added the /rbfu slash command, use '/rbfu reset' if you have issues at startup (note that it will reload your UI) |
| 10:10.17 | CIA-22 | 03hedin * r45391 10WF3sec/ (WF3sec.toc core.lua): WF3sec: Added Stormstrike cooldown |
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| 10:14.13 | Arrowmaster | well ima head to bed, night all |
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| 10:16.26 | CIA-22 | 03jerry * r45392 10ItemBonusLib/ItemBonusLib-1.0/ItemBonusLib-1.0.lua: |
| 10:16.26 | CIA-22 | ItemBonusLib: |
| 10:16.26 | CIA-22 | _ Add frFR support to rating functions. |
| 10:16.26 | CIA-22 | _ Add +2% Threat and Subtlety enchants patterns for enUS. |
| 10:18.31 | CIA-22 | 03hedin * r45393 10WF3sec/WF3sec.toc: WF3sec: Update toc |
| 10:18.57 | CIA-22 | 03snago * r45394 10Damnation/ (Damnation.lua Damnation.toc): |
| 10:18.57 | CIA-22 | Damnation: |
| 10:18.57 | CIA-22 | - Various error fixes. Drycode ftl. |
| 10:22.56 | Fin | I don't suppose there's anyone here who could - and would :) - help me with a couple of FuBar plugin questions? |
| 10:23.32 | Fin | I've been reading through lots of docs trying to figure it out, but my genetic mutative disease virus has prevented me from finding out the answer again |
| 10:24.21 | CIA-22 | 03athou * r45395 10FuBar_RaidBuffFu/FuBar_RaidBuffFu.lua: |
| 10:24.21 | CIA-22 | FuBar_RaidBuffFu: |
| 10:24.21 | CIA-22 | - forgot to change the way shift-click and alt-click act regarding previous optimization changes |
| 10:24.30 | ramoz | what does WF3sec do? |
| 10:25.31 | Fin | oh! hey one of the things I tried seems to have worked |
| 10:25.37 | Fin | maybe I did figure it out on my own |
| 10:25.56 | weab | i was waiting for a question to attempt to answer |
| 10:26.56 | Fin | I was waiting for someone to say they might be able to help :) but here it was: I'd like to set the title of this plugin to a user-defined variable - where can I set this as the plugin is loaded? |
| 10:27.10 | Fin | is there a FuBarPlugin:OnPluginEnable() or something? |
| 10:27.16 | Fin | the other thing was: |
| 10:27.28 | mitch0 | arrow: about the waterfall color: the answer is yes. (it's just the color of the WF frames and stuff) |
| 10:27.55 | Fin | in Tablet, for :SetFontSizePercent(parent, scale), why do you have to specify the parent? I want to set the font size for a plugin's tooltip, but I can't figure out how |
| 10:28.05 | mitch0 | arrow: but please elaborate what exactly you mean by "like i said your profile stuff is kinda weird" |
| 10:28.20 | mitch0 | now I gotta go, but I'll check back in 30mins or so |
| 10:28.20 | Fin | but I think I've solved the first one |
| 10:28.35 | Grum | is there any addon which allows a group of paladins to hand out buffings tasks in a raid? (and helps em do the buffs etc) |
| 10:30.33 | Fin | I've seen something like that on WoWI, Grum |
| 10:30.40 | Fin | can't remember the name(s) though |
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| 10:36.00 | siIentium | pally power is what you want |
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| 10:47.04 | Fin | Kemayo: I think I've figured out how Mars Quest Organizer is breaking QuestsFu |
| 10:47.11 | Fin | actually it's breaking Quixote |
| 10:47.14 | CIA-22 | 03athou * r45396 10FuBar_RaidBuffFu/FuBar_RaidBuffFu.lua: |
| 10:47.14 | CIA-22 | FuBar_RaidBuffFu: |
| 10:47.14 | CIA-22 | - cleanup |
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| 10:49.05 | Fin | Kemayo: http://fin.pastey.net/71642 |
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| 10:53.10 | Fin | huh, jesus, I've never seen that quest tracker thingy before! |
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| 10:55.36 | CIA-22 | 03fin * r45397 10FuBar_QuestsFu/QuestsFu.lua: |
| 10:55.36 | CIA-22 | FuBar_QuestsFu: |
| 10:55.36 | CIA-22 | - added another default value for numNeeded (0 if nil); and updated one line |
| 10:55.36 | CIA-22 | using the description var to use (description or ''); I think the problems were |
| 10:55.36 | CIA-22 | caused by Mars Quest Organizer replacing GetQuestLogtTitle(): |
| 10:55.37 | CIA-22 | http://fin.pastey.net/71642 |
| 10:55.39 | CIA-22 | - the quest tracker now works! I'm not touching this again |
| 11:01.28 | mitch0 | arrowmaster: I"m back. are you still around? |
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| 11:02.23 | CIA-22 | 03snago * r45398 10Damnation/Damnation.lua: |
| 11:02.23 | CIA-22 | Damnation: |
| 11:02.23 | CIA-22 | - Bugfixes. Should actually work now. |
| 11:02.28 | CIA-22 | 03celellach * r45399 10AtlasLoot/ (4 files in 3 dirs): |
| 11:02.28 | CIA-22 | AtlasLoot: |
| 11:02.28 | CIA-22 | - Added Gelkis and Magram faction items. |
| 11:03.02 | Athou | is it just me or did files.wowace.com stop updating itself ? |
| 11:04.00 | Diao | is files.wowace.com having problems |
| 11:04.02 | Diao | lol |
| 11:04.04 | Diao | nm |
| 11:04.17 | Diao | i just ran wau and it wasn't updating anything but renchap one is working |
| 11:04.28 | CIA-22 | 03celellach * r45400 10AtlasLoot_RepFactions/rep.lua: |
| 11:04.28 | CIA-22 | AtlasLoot_RepFactions: |
| 11:04.28 | CIA-22 | - Added Gelkis and Magram faction items. |
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| 11:06.00 | ramoz | files.wowace.com hasnt updated in 12hrs |
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| 11:07.59 | mitch0 | antiarc: about locking the pullout bar in Omen, wouldn't it be possible to just call EnableMouse(false) on its frame? it's really bad that it eats mouse clicks right in the middle of my screen |
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| 11:14.58 | CIA-22 | 03helium * r45401 10AutoBar/ (Locale-enUS.lua Locale-zhTW.lua): |
| 11:14.58 | CIA-22 | AutoBar: |
| 11:14.58 | CIA-22 | - updated zhTW localization |
| 11:15.19 | CIA-22 | 03helium * r45402 10AutoBarConfig/AutoBarConfigSlot.lua: |
| 11:15.19 | CIA-22 | AutoBarConfig: |
| 11:15.20 | CIA-22 | - updated zhTW localization |
| 11:16.32 | CIA-22 | 03snago * r45403 10Damnation/Damnation.lua: |
| 11:16.32 | CIA-22 | Damnation: |
| 11:16.32 | CIA-22 | - Another bugfix. |
| 11:16.46 | Qaarh | ckknight: when it comes to cowtip and hiding the tooltips for units when in combat, do you know why they keep appearing even though I have set it to "ooc" |
| 11:17.35 | CIA-22 | 03helium * r45404 10FinderReminder/FinderReminder.lua: FinderReminder: remove Druid's Track Humanoids. we can't use Druid's Track Humanoids unless in Cat Form, and we will in Human Form by default when return to life. |
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| 11:25.46 | yacoob | hm, the usual problem |
| 11:25.51 | yacoob | new hostname |
| 11:26.03 | yacoob | (same category of problems as 'name for new character' :) |
| 11:26.42 | xt | what the downside of your UI using say 100MB |
| 11:27.00 | CIA-22 | 03ominous * r45405 10Babble-2.2/Babble-Spell-2.2/Babble-Spell-2.2.lua: Babble-2.2: Spell: added Frenzy effect |
| 11:27.13 | JoshBorke | xt: nothing |
| 11:27.34 | Neebler | ct: most of those addons more than likely also use massive ammounts of CPU usage as well. Likewise you're almost guaranteed to lag in raids |
| 11:28.14 | xt | Neebler: not really the case with stored data from dmgmeteres |
| 11:28.27 | xt | assessment has a neat boss save feature |
| 11:30.04 | yacoob | boss shave feature? :D |
| 11:30.36 | CIA-22 | 03hedin * r45406 10WF3sec/WF3sec.toc: WF3sec: Fix OptionalDeps |
| 11:31.18 | Diao | downside is fps drop |
| 11:31.28 | mitch0 | maybe I should switch to Assessment |
| 11:31.35 | Diao | i lose like 40 fps going from no UI to 80mb usage |
| 11:31.51 | [gk]Hotphoenix | loading times also get worse |
| 11:31.59 | Necrathex | can someone help to point me to the location where globals like SPELL_STAT1_NAME are set? |
| 11:31.59 | Diao | well initial load is pretty terrible |
| 11:32.05 | Diao | instance loads are still basically instant |
| 11:32.10 | Diao | (for me) |
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| 11:32.17 | JoshBorke | memory used has no concrete correlation to FPS |
| 11:32.35 | xt | that's what I thought |
| 11:32.45 | Diao | probably not |
| 11:32.51 | Diao | but for me it has a positive correlation |
| 11:33.02 | Diao | when i replaced high mem usage addons with lower ones i gained fps |
| 11:33.02 | xt | Diao: you using embedded libs? |
| 11:33.08 | Diao | standalones |
| 11:34.05 | JoshBorke | there is a high possibility that poorly written mods use both lots of memory AND lots of CPU time |
| 11:34.44 | Diao | well it was stuff like lootlink |
| 11:34.47 | Diao | which shouldn't affect fps afaik |
| 11:34.50 | Diao | but for some reason it did |
| 11:35.00 | krka | using lots of memory could be bad on systems with low ram |
| 11:35.08 | krka | also, more memory = slower garbage collection |
| 11:35.28 | Diao | oh yeah |
| 11:35.32 | Diao | at like 150mb |
| 11:35.40 | krka | 150mb ui memory? O_o |
| 11:35.41 | Diao | my computer used to freeze for like 10 sec for GC |
| 11:35.43 | krka | i have like 16 |
| 11:35.43 | Diao | lol |
| 11:35.46 | Diao | well |
| 11:35.48 | Diao | i have it down to like 70 now |
| 11:35.52 | JoshBorke | krka: even with the new garbage collector? |
| 11:35.54 | Diao | it was back when i used like cosmos etc |
| 11:36.25 | ramoz | you guys have 70MB of memusage? |
| 11:36.37 | xt | I'm up to like 100MB sometimes |
| 11:36.38 | Diao | i run a lot of stuff >.> |
| 11:36.39 | krka | JoshBorke: yes |
| 11:36.41 | Diao | auctioneer uses most of it |
| 11:36.48 | Diao | that's like 15-20mb alone |
| 11:36.50 | krka | the new garbage collector just makes it run in small steps |
| 11:36.53 | mikma | err. i usually have somewhat like 16-18mb memusage |
| 11:36.58 | ramoz | i use ~35 with 10 of them beeing recount |
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| 11:37.03 | ramoz | (in raids) |
| 11:37.09 | krka | the time to do a full gc sweep is still proportional to number of objects in memory |
| 11:37.15 | krka | so actually, i retract my statement |
| 11:37.22 | krka | few and large objects wont slow down gc |
| 11:37.26 | krka | but many small objects will |
| 11:37.59 | krka | then again, gc speed doesn't really matter if the garbage generated is low enough |
| 11:39.29 | JoshBorke | Cryect: bug in recount: http://ace.pastey.net/71644 |
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| 11:50.24 | Hed | Hi every1 |
| 11:50.43 | ramoz | hi |
| 11:52.11 | Hed | I need help in creating and moving frames from lua, is there any good docs on that? |
| 11:54.26 | JoshBorke | local f = CreateFrame("Frame", "movable", UIParent, "OptionsButtonTemplate"); f:SetPoint("CENTER"), f:SetMovable(true); f:EnableDrag("LeftButton") |
| 11:54.29 | JoshBorke | or something like that |
| 11:54.55 | mitch0 | personally I hate EnableDrag |
| 11:54.59 | mitch0 | it "lags" |
| 11:55.06 | Hed | is there a manual on that? i need more functions :-) |
| 11:55.26 | JoshBorke | hed: www.wowwiki.com |
| 11:55.49 | Hed | not much there |
| 11:55.55 | JoshBorke | ... |
| 11:55.58 | JoshBorke | are you serious? |
| 11:55.59 | mitch0 | everything is there |
| 11:56.07 | Hed | http://www.wowwiki.com/World_of_Warcraft_API#Frame_Management |
| 11:56.18 | JoshBorke | that's not the same link |
| 11:56.49 | JoshBorke | http://www.wowwiki.com/Widget_API#Frame |
| 11:56.53 | JoshBorke | look for RegisterForDrag |
| 11:57.18 | CIA-22 | 03jerry 07jerry * r45407 10Grid/Grid/ (6 files): Grid: fix localization of "Pet color" being used twice, as requested by Elbereth |
| 11:57.19 | weab | http://www.wowwiki.com/Category:HOWTOs |
| 11:58.14 | weab | those mostly seem to suck though. |
| 11:58.22 | Hed | yep |
| 11:58.43 | JoshBorke | so make them better, that's the best part of a wiki |
| 11:59.20 | Grum | EnableDrag ... crossdressing frame! =D |
| 11:59.21 | weab | yeah. no. |
| 11:59.45 | Hed | need little help on MessageFrame, how to add a FontString to it? |
| 12:00.26 | CIA-22 | 03jerry 07jerry * r45408 10Grid/Grid/ (GridLocale-enUS.lua GridLocale-zhCN.lua): Grid: merge changes from the trunk |
| 12:00.27 | JoshBorke | what do you mean, add a fontstring? |
| 12:00.37 | JoshBorke | http://www.wowwiki.com/Widget_API#MessageFrame |
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| 12:01.36 | JoshBorke | from the site with little information |
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| 12:02.22 | CIA-22 | 03jerry * r45409 10Babble-2.2/Babble-Spell-2.2/Babble-Spell-2.2.lua: Babble-2.2: revert changes to Gift of the Wild in esES. |
| 12:02.23 | Hed | it doesn't let you MessageFrame:AddMessage without a Font set |
| 12:03.52 | mitch0 | have you tried SetFont()? |
| 12:03.53 | JoshBorke | doesn't seem to make a lot of sense to me, where are you getting this MessageFrame? |
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| 12:05.41 | CIA-22 | 03ascalia * r45410 10AtlasLoot_RepFactions/ (rep.lua rep.tw.lua): |
| 12:05.41 | CIA-22 | AtlasLoot_RepFactions: |
| 12:05.41 | CIA-22 | - additional minor loot improvements |
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| 12:15.02 | abbat-w | guys |
| 12:15.14 | abbat-w | before patch i can see pvp trinket in log as: |
| 12:15.17 | abbat-w | 6/8 22:39:41.281 Vozak gains Immune Root/Snare/Stun. |
| 12:15.54 | abbat-w | But i don't have log after patch. Someone know how now pvp trinket can be detected? |
| 12:16.35 | CIA-22 | 03snago * r45411 10Damnation/Damnation.toc: |
| 12:16.35 | CIA-22 | Damnation: |
| 12:16.35 | CIA-22 | - tocfix |
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| 12:26.23 | kaffeebrowser | anybody here ? |
| 12:26.35 | [dRaCo] | ~245 ppl |
| 12:26.48 | Tinyboom | haha |
| 12:26.57 | kaffeebrowser | just a short question about "Antiarc's WoW Armory Tools" |
| 12:27.14 | [dRaCo] | including 5 bots and 200 who are afk |
| 12:27.29 | kaffeebrowser | i like irc ^^ |
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| 12:27.50 | weab | i'm not afk. i'm just ignoring you. |
| 12:28.12 | xb95 | I'm AFK. |
| 12:28.21 | kaffeebrowser | is there a solution for the chars like "ä,ö,ü,ß" in guild names ? |
| 12:28.55 | kaffeebrowser | if i try this, only an error comes up |
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| 12:31.47 | [dRaCo] | tried encoding them? |
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| 12:59.47 | CIA-22 | 03samuelcup * r45412 10XLoot/localization.zhCN.lua: XLoot: updated zhCN translation |
| 13:00.11 | abbat-w | huh |
| 13:00.18 | abbat-w | mana tide totem - frost school |
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| 13:04.27 | Iceroth | does anyone have any idea when sirow is going to publish the Avion? |
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| 13:06.22 | abbat-w | Iceroth ;) |
| 13:06.39 | abbat-w | Looks like DUB development ;) |
| 13:06.49 | abbat-w | "i never give ETA" :) |
| 13:07.15 | Iceroth | well i'm fine with that but the damn teasers :p |
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| 13:11.32 | CIA-22 | 03jerry 07jerry * r45413 10Grid/Grid/GridLayout.lua: Grid: add two locales that I forgot. |
| 13:13.05 | CIA-22 | 03gandharva * r45414 10Violation_CombatLogRange/Violation_CombatLogRange.lua: |
| 13:13.05 | CIA-22 | Violation_CombatLogRange: |
| 13:13.05 | CIA-22 | - added deDE localization |
| 13:13.05 | CIA-22 | - increased max. log range to 250 yds. |
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| 13:16.06 | Iceroth | castcommlib :s |
| 13:16.11 | Iceroth | why it ain't in wowace svn? |
| 13:17.40 | kenlyric | isn'tt hat part of ace2? |
| 13:18.14 | kenlyric | guess not |
| 13:18.24 | Iceroth | grid has an external set to some weird place |
| 13:18.28 | Iceroth | http://grid.13th-floor.org/svn/trunk/CastCommLib/ |
| 13:18.41 | kenlyric | that's the mirror |
| 13:18.47 | kenlyric | odd |
| 13:19.06 | kenlyric | oh, nvm, I remember now :) |
| 13:19.47 | Iceroth | do enlighten me |
| 13:19.51 | kenlyric | http://grid.13th-floor.org/svn/trunk/CastCommLib/CastCommLib.lua |
| 13:19.54 | kenlyric | not an ace mod. |
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| 13:21.38 | kenlyric | but even if you get grid disembedded, it comes with castcomlib. |
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| 13:22.36 | kenlyric | http://files.wowace.com/Grid/no-ext/Grid.zip |
| 13:23.10 | Neebler | wow assessment is sexy, trying it now for the first time |
| 13:25.52 | evl | what is it? :P |
| 13:26.05 | evl | I know it has one ASS in it, that counts for a bit |
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| 13:26.42 | ramoz | im gonna make assassment - even greater |
| 13:27.09 | evl | ASS^2™ |
| 13:28.09 | ramoz | uhm |
| 13:28.34 | ramoz | anyone know if there is a addon that can make all channels into own frames which you can minimize etc? |
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| 13:33.26 | Josh_Borke | ramoz: mikma wrote something like that |
| 13:34.09 | ramoz | can you remember what its called? |
| 13:34.12 | ramoz | saw it in a movie once |
| 13:34.21 | ramoz | mikma: ping? |
| 13:35.18 | ramoz | mikma wrote assessment |
| 13:35.21 | ramoz | maybe thats the one |
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| 13:41.56 | Hed | Anyone know how to SetPoint from CandyBarGroup for another Frame? |
| 13:41.59 | dodgizzla | ramoz: You probably mean DreamChat; it is pretty unmaintained nowadays anyway |
| 13:42.26 | AKX | It is indeed very unmaintained, alas. |
| 13:42.51 | AKX | Though, ramoz, you might've seen Chatr too (another addon by me). |
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| 13:43.20 | Hed | any1? |
| 13:43.55 | dodgizzla | I'd settle for an addon that minimizes ChatFrame1-X to a specified height when right-clicking the ChatMenuButton |
| 13:45.14 | ramoz | dodgizzla; AKX: thanks, ill have a look : |
| 13:45.16 | ramoz | :) |
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| 13:49.22 | Ky|Work | dodgizzla: if your willing to hack up some code yourself, I have some unreleased stuff that does exactly what you want |
| 13:52.32 | Gandharva | Is the http://files.wowace.com/ zip-script broken? |
| 13:52.53 | Gandharva | No update since r45328 |
| 13:54.35 | Amadeo | I remember Kaelten saying he was taking down SVN last night for something, dunno what happened with that |
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| 13:56.37 | Amadeo | Anyone have any old laptop memory laying around? |
| 13:57.29 | Amadeo | as in PC100 |
| 13:57.46 | Ascalia | my updater doesn't get any new commit neither |
| 13:58.31 | winkiller | Amadeo: even if I had, shipping would probably cost more than one of the 300$-laptops :P |
| 13:58.47 | Amadeo | haha |
| 13:58.49 | Amadeo | where are you? |
| 14:00.09 | winkiller | germany :P |
| 14:00.42 | Amadeo | I've never done any overseas shipping, but I imagine it can be done cheaply enough with some tricks :) |
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| 14:03.01 | ie|Stiffe | gamble |
| 14:04.28 | Fin | feature request: "confirm" boolean field added to "text" type entries in AceOptions data tables |
| 14:06.22 | dodgizzla | Ky|Work: I tried a bit, but ever since WoW 2.x I did not do much modding :> |
| 14:06.34 | dodgizzla | I thought of hacking it into a Prat module |
| 14:06.48 | Ky|Work | http://wow-kyahx.googlecode.com/svn/trunk/Kyborg2/Modules/Chat.lua -- I plan on releaseing it eventually, but for now your on your own :P |
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| 14:13.46 | CIA-22 | 03sayclub * r45415 10Babble-2.2/ (2 files in 2 dirs): |
| 14:13.46 | CIA-22 | Babble-2.2: |
| 14:13.46 | CIA-22 | - Updated localization koKR |
| 14:15.26 | CIA-22 | 03hedin * r45416 10WF3sec/ (WF3sec.toc core.lua meleeframe.xml): WF3sec: Added MeleeFrame creation to lua. |
| 14:17.01 | ramoz | anyone know if its possible to move the mobmigation buttons? |
| 14:17.46 | ramoz | nvm |
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| 14:20.39 | Funkeh` | hi all |
| 14:20.39 | CIA-22 | 03sayclub * r45417 10BigWigs/SC/Morogrim.lua: |
| 14:20.39 | CIA-22 | BigWigs: |
| 14:20.39 | CIA-22 | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:21.49 | Fin | sylvanaar: ping |
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| 14:22.07 | yoshimo | is it possible that wau doesn't get the current versions? it seems to miss a lot of updates of the last hour |
| 14:22.31 | sylvanaar | fin yo |
| 14:23.11 | Funkeh` | yoshimo thats because the zip files update script is broken |
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| 14:23.59 | sylvanaar | lol ^.^ >.> v.v <.< |
| 14:24.20 | Fin | sylvanaar: I'm thinking of removing the ChatHead module |
| 14:24.30 | sylvanaar | Fin what does it even do? |
| 14:24.48 | Fin | I thought it was meant to be in development for some addon someone was writing |
| 14:25.00 | Fin | but it's not had any updates since forever, and the code looks stublike |
| 14:25.39 | Funkeh` | ~seen nymbia |
| 14:25.41 | purl | nymbia <n=nymbia@71-218-154-164.hlrn.qwest.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 2d 16h 17m 15s ago, saying: 'i cant clear it from the wdb cache so that's the best its gonna do ;)'. |
| 14:26.43 | jme | hah, i was realizing why i kept seeing my ranged crit chance swap from 21.1% to 19.92% |
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| 14:26.56 | jme | then i realized i was equipping my riding crop instead of my bladefists breath.... |
| 14:27.00 | jme | <- nooooooooooob |
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| 14:27.22 | mitch0 | hm. eu armory is down ;( |
| 14:27.50 | jme | mitch0: not from the US.. i'm lookin at nihilum's armory |
| 14:28.05 | CIA-22 | 03fin * r45418 10Prat/Prat_Modules/modules/ (AltNames.lua ChatHead.lua History.lua): |
| 14:28.05 | CIA-22 | Prat: |
| 14:28.05 | CIA-22 | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:28.05 | CIA-22 | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:28.27 | CIA-22 | 03duerma * r45419 10RPHelper2/ (23 files in 3 dirs): |
| 14:28.28 | CIA-22 | RPHelper2: |
| 14:28.28 | CIA-22 | - Many bug fixes |
| 14:28.28 | CIA-22 | - Added on/off toggle |
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| 14:29.03 | Funkeh` | anyone else get a sctupid script error when launching the wow launcher? (EU) |
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| 14:30.00 | CIA-22 | 03sayclub * r45420 10FuBar_RaidBuffFu/localization.lua: |
| 14:30.01 | CIA-22 | FuBar_RaidBuffFu: |
| 14:30.01 | CIA-22 | - Added localization koKR |
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| 14:31.55 | Zerdesht|Avesta | hey guys, I read up a bit on infinibar and watched a tutorial from omgphatloots.org and it seemed pretty nice. Tried it out a bit and it rocks, but now I read on some forums that IB is laggy and has issues. Anybody using it while raiding? |
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| 14:33.57 | vhaarr | I've seen it in raid screenshots, but I haven't tried it myself |
| 14:34.02 | vhaarr | ~seen jjsheets |
| 14:34.04 | purl | jjsheets <n=jjsheets@74-136-100-20.dhcp.insightbb.com> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 87d 13h 41m 25s ago, saying: 'bluntmaster. sounds like a funny name for a pot smoking dope fiend. :)'. |
| 14:36.24 | sylvanaar | holy myspace wtf happened to curse? |
| 14:36.30 | Zerdesht|Avesta | Yeah I read that he's not been on for a good while, so I guess I should use Bartender 3 then. I liked this addon, but if people are saying it has memory issues I'll wait a while. :) thx |
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| 14:40.44 | mitch0 | funny. I get a blank page |
| 14:40.59 | krka | like user, like website |
| 14:41.16 | jme | :o |
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| 14:43.07 | Fin | can someone recommend a decent set of unit frames for raiding as a healer, nothing I have to get used to (like Grid - nice as it is!)? |
| 14:43.19 | kenlyric | Fin: Grid |
| 14:43.37 | Fin | but it's so *complex* |
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| 14:44.00 | Fin | kenlyric: what would be your second choice? |
| 14:44.07 | kenlyric | nothing. |
| 14:44.14 | Fin | healing blind, I like it |
| 14:44.16 | Fin | it's got flair |
| 14:44.17 | kenlyric | blizzard includes default unitframes. |
| 14:44.25 | jme | O_o |
| 14:44.41 | kenlyric | any UF mod that lets move them around and modify them, pitbull, aguf, etc. |
| 14:44.46 | Fin | if you recommend them, fair enough - anyone else got any suggestions? |
| 14:44.48 | kenlyric | but really, Grid. |
| 14:45.09 | kenlyric | being a healer is complex. It will make your life easier. |
| 14:45.14 | Amadeo | Are you looking for unit frames or raid frames? |
| 14:45.28 | Fin | I want a nice default setup if possible - I'm raiding like, really soon (I just realised my pitbull unitframe setup is fucked for raids and I want to try and find something useable :) |
| 14:45.51 | Fin | yes, I agree, I want to use Grid, I've planned to, but I can't get used to it in half an hour |
| 14:46.14 | Amadeo | PerfectRaid? |
| 14:46.19 | Amadeo | I don't even raid, so I don't know the addons |
| 14:46.39 | kenlyric | I've heard those are fine too. |
| 14:47.07 | Chompers | Grid for healing |
| 14:47.11 | Chompers | it's the best |
| 14:47.27 | kenlyric | but, install grid too. Tinker with it until you can use it properly. |
| 14:47.52 | kenlyric | I used grid and other unitframe's raid frames for a week or two. |
| 14:48.01 | Fin | that was also my plan |
| 14:48.13 | Zerdesht|Avesta | I got used to grid in 1h, I think you can too :) |
| 14:48.41 | Fin | unfortunately, much as I am flattered by your confidence in my abilities, you are wrong |
| 14:48.44 | kenlyric | 1 hour is a long time in a raid :) |
| 14:49.27 | jme | i like pitbull's raid frames |
| 14:49.33 | jme | but i'm not a healer |
| 14:49.34 | Fin | I don't have a layout for them |
| 14:49.42 | jme | so make one ;) |
| 14:49.54 | Fin | in half an hour? |
| 14:50.02 | jme | sure |
| 14:50.21 | Fin | you are obviously more dextrous than me when it comes to laying out unit frames |
| 14:50.26 | jme | change the config mode to raid, drag the group frames around, right click change a few options.. |
| 14:50.39 | Fin | I fumble like a drunken santa claus on boxing day |
| 14:51.02 | Fin | I can promise you, I will not find a useable setup in half an hour |
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| 14:51.47 | Qaarh | I actually moved from Grid just today |
| 14:51.53 | Qaarh | 100% pitbull now |
| 14:52.12 | Qaarh | using the perfectraid layout posted on the pitbull thread, with a few modifications |
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| 14:53.07 | Fin | giveusalinktheneh? |
| 14:53.20 | Funkeh` | i'd rather have grid than pitbull |
| 14:53.26 | Qaarh | for the layout? uhm.. gimme a sec to find it.. |
| 14:53.35 | Fin | ta |
| 14:53.48 | Dustwhisper| | my grid is 5x5 squarez up in left corner and each frame is about 10x10 pixels or 8x8 pixels and only show if they have arcane intellect/arcane brilliance or if they are dead |
| 14:53.50 | jme | hit 370 mining this morning before work :O |
| 14:53.51 | Dustwhisper| | only thing i care about =D |
| 14:54.09 | jme | maybe i'll get lucky and find a rich khorium tonight when i hit 375 |
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| 14:55.12 | Necrathex | rich khorium? |
| 14:55.34 | Qaarh | http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=6878.0 |
| 14:55.39 | jme | hmm |
| 14:55.46 | jme | maybe those don't exist... |
| 14:56.02 | CIA-22 | 03cryect * r45421 10Recount/ (Recount.lua Tracker.lua healbuffs.lua): Recount - Cleaned up the code for Heal Buff tracking (PoM, ES, and Lifebloom) and it should now work for tracking PoM jumps as well |
| 14:56.08 | Josh_Borke | what horde race is best for mage? |
| 14:56.11 | Josh_Borke | cryect: you get my bug report? |
| 14:56.13 | Qaarh | if you wanna see the layout I use, check http://www.bergvin.com/Qaarh_fullParty.jpg - though I've done some modifications to that already |
| 14:56.18 | jme | Josh_Borke: undead! |
| 14:56.25 | jme | Josh_Borke: WotF |
| 14:57.00 | Josh_Borke | ok |
| 14:57.09 | jme | Josh_Borke: are you rerolling horde on SR? |
| 14:57.13 | Josh_Borke | no |
| 14:57.15 | jme | :( |
| 14:57.15 | Josh_Borke | nathrezim |
| 14:57.20 | Josh_Borke | with some coworkers |
| 14:57.24 | jme | ah |
| 14:57.30 | Cryect | let me guess it was a bug about tracker.lua having an issue with amount being nil? |
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| 14:57.52 | Josh_Borke | cryect: no clue |
| 14:57.52 | Cryect | oh wait it wasn't |
| 14:57.58 | Cryect | I just checked what you reported |
| 14:58.08 | Josh_Borke | and you ignored me last night cryect |
| 14:58.18 | Cryect | I was prolly in the middle of doing something |
| 14:58.22 | Josh_Borke | yea, BT :-P |
| 14:58.46 | Cryect | oh you were the one whispering me in the middle of attempts :-p |
| 15:00.17 | Josh_Borke | yea, you guys kill illidan yet? |
| 15:02.28 | Cryect | you know how you can cause that error to occur? |
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| 15:02.52 | Silviu- | Fin, u had some cf2 problems and Kirck send u the truetype Calibri font`s |
| 15:02.53 | Silviu- | ? |
| 15:03.11 | mikma | ramoz: asssessment = roartindon |
| 15:03.27 | Josh_Borke | Cryect: i opened the config frame |
| 15:03.36 | Josh_Borke | by clicking on the sprocket looking thing |
| 15:03.55 | Cryect | Hmmm any realtime windows up? |
| 15:04.05 | Josh_Borke | don't think so, but maybe |
| 15:04.09 | Josh_Borke | i don't remember :-( |
| 15:04.17 | Josh_Borke | i was just clicking around this morning :-) |
| 15:04.41 | Josh_Borke | and you should only have one real time window per person imho :-D |
| 15:04.50 | Cryect | heh well if you can figure out the sequence of clicks it would help |
| 15:04.58 | Josh_Borke | alright, i'll look at it tomorrow |
| 15:05.00 | Cryect | Shrug I figure why not let the player have as many as possible |
| 15:05.01 | yoshimo | is there an option in ag_uf to show pvp and afk state? |
| 15:05.23 | Dustwhisper| | thanks for recount btw Cryect i love the death log feature of it now that it has colors etc =) And in your honour im blatantly ripping of and reading your code trying to put together my own addon =D |
| 15:05.25 | Josh_Borke | or tonight rather |
| 15:05.32 | Cryect | I've seen the bug occur once and I have no idea what I did since I didn't see it till like hours later looking at bugsack (had another bug constantly going so didn't realize it) |
| 15:05.56 | Josh_Borke | fix your bugs! |
| 15:05.59 | Cryect | haha my code might be a little hard to read I imagine at places |
| 15:06.02 | Cryect | I fixed that bug! |
| 15:06.13 | Dustwhisper| | it is |
| 15:06.13 | Cryect | just couldn't fix it in hte middle of a raid |
| 15:06.21 | Amadeo | is WoW lagging severely for anyone else? |
| 15:06.21 | Dustwhisper| | i tried following your event logging |
| 15:06.23 | Dustwhisper| | and db usage |
| 15:06.33 | Dustwhisper| | it was very jumpy so took me a while to figure out |
| 15:06.59 | Josh_Borke | cryect can't code imo |
| 15:07.10 | Josh_Borke | Cryect: link me the bug i posted this morning? |
| 15:07.12 | Dustwhisper| | i wouldnt know since i started with LUA 3 days ago =D |
| 15:07.27 | Dustwhisper| | but I did find the structure of assessment extremely tidy |
| 15:07.28 | [dRaCo] | is there any way to make baggins bank bags *not* blue? |
| 15:07.30 | Cryect | http://ace.pastey.net/71644 |
| 15:07.59 | Josh_Borke | i probably did have a realtime window up when i opened the config |
| 15:08.19 | Qaarh | quick question, what is the addon that modifies the item tooltips so that int is shown 12 int ( +120 mana, +0.5% crit ) etc? |
| 15:08.29 | Dustwhisper| | ratingbuster |
| 15:09.28 | Josh_Borke | cryect: you added a network utilization graph? o.O |
| 15:09.32 | Cryect | My basics with the event tracking is have a layer for translating the parser info into the format I want, then a set of functions for the type of events I want to record that then do all the processing, then a set of functions for recording the data to the tables |
| 15:09.36 | Cryect | Josh_Borke: yes |
| 15:09.45 | Dustwhisper| | yea |
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| 15:09.48 | Qaarh | thanks a bunch, Dustwhisper| |
| 15:09.49 | Fin | Silviu-: yes |
| 15:09.55 | Dustwhisper| | I thought that was a bit to many layers for my liking |
| 15:09.58 | Silviu- | Fin can i have the files too ? |
| 15:10.06 | Cryect | You could easily get rid of the top layer |
| 15:10.13 | Cryect | the bottom layer makes the code a ton cleaner |
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| 15:10.14 | Dustwhisper| | my structure is shit though |
| 15:10.30 | mikma | ramoz: http://mikma-wow.googlecode.com/svn/trunk/ChatBox/ <- that does what you asked. but it's not configurable atm ;) |
| 15:10.34 | Fin | Qaarh: thanks! |
| 15:10.46 | Dustwhisper| | i just parse it into a battleHistory[x].participants[foo].eventLog[bar] and then store data spesific to battle, participant and event in the different subtables |
| 15:10.49 | Cryect | I used to have each of the functions do everything but it was like 300 line functions each with copy and pasted code several times of the same stuff |
| 15:11.03 | Fin | Silviu-: sure, but can I send em later? |
| 15:11.06 | Silviu- | Fin u have maybe a link for download or i can give u my mail ? |
| 15:11.08 | Silviu- | Yep |
| 15:11.30 | Silviu- | Fin how much later ? ;) |
| 15:11.43 | Fin | sec, actually, I'll upload them somewhere now |
| 15:11.50 | Silviu- | Super |
| 15:11.52 | Silviu- | Thank u |
| 15:13.44 | Amadeo | my route to WoW servers is horrible today |
| 15:13.47 | Amadeo | 5000ms pings |
| 15:14.01 | Fin | fin.instinct.org/c/alibri/calibri.ttf |
| 15:14.21 | Fin | +Silviu-: |
| 15:14.33 | Silviu- | Done thankl u |
| 15:14.37 | Silviu- | -l |
| 15:14.44 | Silviu- | Ah bold |
| 15:14.51 | Silviu- | Fin can u upload the normal one ? |
| 15:14.57 | Fin | hum |
| 15:15.03 | Silviu- | And this is OpenType hmm |
| 15:15.09 | Silviu- | Not Truetype |
| 15:15.18 | Fin | well, it's what I'm usin, and it seemed to work |
| 15:15.26 | Silviu- | This one i have too |
| 15:15.33 | Silviu- | I thought u have the TrueType one |
| 15:15.38 | Fin | is WoW crashing for you? |
| 15:15.48 | Fin | it might be another flie, fonts seem to be all over the place |
| 15:16.01 | Silviu- | Yes sometimes |
| 15:16.45 | Fin | mine was crashin 100% if Calibri was used |
| 15:17.04 | Fin | I think it was something to do with a fucked system install, some XP weirdness |
| 15:17.12 | Silviu- | Could be |
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| 15:17.47 | mitch0 | [ammo]: http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info7399-1.0.html |
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| 15:24.34 | mitch0 | eh, some of you guys had some fun here, eh? http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/fileinfo.php?id=7355&so=&page=1 |
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| 15:38.30 | Amadeo | I need to contact Comcast and tell them that my internet is sucking, but they're going to blame it on my router and stuff, so it's not even worth it |
| 15:38.41 | deltron | :( |
| 15:39.19 | Amadeo | Their website is hardly loading :( |
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| 15:48.24 | [dRaCo] | ~seen nargiddley |
| 15:48.27 | purl | nargiddley <n=Narg@203-97-236-74.cable.telstraclear.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 1d 4h 39m 26s ago, saying: 'I want to get the new editor finished, bags/bank bags in and then its probably heading for a proper release'. |
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| 15:52.39 | Ominous | Morning Kaelten |
| 15:53.12 | CIA-22 | 03athou * r45422 10FuBar_RaidBuffFu/FuBar_RaidBuffFu.lua: |
| 15:53.12 | CIA-22 | FuBar_RaidBuffFu: |
| 15:53.12 | CIA-22 | - little bit of cleanup |
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| 15:53.31 | Fisker | phew |
| 15:53.40 | Fisker | only a couple of hundred items left |
| 15:53.59 | Ominous | what u doing? |
| 15:54.05 | Fisker | nothin' |
| 15:54.08 | Fisker | :P |
| 15:54.14 | Kaelten | morning |
| 15:54.32 | Fisker | i had a macro running to log me on and query items :O |
| 15:54.49 | Fisker | at item 328xx now |
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| 15:56.13 | Dustwhisper| | If I want to attach tooltip to like a gazillion textures is there a good library about =D? |
| 15:56.13 | Coruss | lol |
| 15:57.51 | Xuerian | why library? Just make your own tooltip and a attach function >_> |
| 15:58.43 | CIA-22 | 03pettigrow * r45423 10BigWigs/ (5 files in 2 dirs): BigWigs: frFR Update |
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| 16:00.16 | Xuerian | Mmkay.... so it says the below realms will being undergoing maintenance till 7am (Two hours ago)... Is the login server still down, or do I need to reboot..? |
| 16:01.03 | Xuerian | ... |
| 16:02.15 | Funkeh` | later |
| 16:09.58 | Kaelten | do unnamed frames still provide a significant memory reduction? |
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| 16:15.06 | CIA-22 | 03cryect * r45424 10Recount/colors.lua: Recount - Fixes colors so they can't all get set to the same color |
| 16:15.25 | CIA-22 | 03samuelcup * r45425 10XLoot/localization.zhCN.lua: XLoot: minor update on zhCN |
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| 16:18.24 | Gamefaq | use pitbull and scale/setup the raidframes like you like |
| 16:18.41 | deltron | heh that's what I've been using |
| 16:18.47 | deltron | sucks in AV though |
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| 16:20.45 | Amadeo | hahaha |
| 16:20.51 | Amadeo | So, I contacted Comcast support for my issues |
| 16:20.54 | Amadeo | and guess what?? |
| 16:20.58 | deltron | router issue? |
| 16:20.59 | Amadeo | Patricia.8378: I am seeing something which may be causing this. Do you also have a router connected? |
| 16:21.04 | Amadeo | rofl |
| 16:21.09 | deltron | delete your wtf and wdb folders |
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| 16:25.52 | sb | Kaelten: zipscript? :p |
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| 16:26.06 | Chompers | Amadeo: you're using a router? |
| 16:26.11 | Chompers | are you mad or something? |
| 16:26.12 | Kaelten | sb: ? |
| 16:26.40 | sb | mhhm... something seems to be wrong |
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| 16:26.54 | Kaelten | it hasn't been running all night I don't believe |
| 16:27.14 | Kaelten | I ran it manually a few mins ago |
| 16:27.17 | sb | ahh |
| 16:27.19 | sb | okay thank you :) |
| 16:27.32 | Kaelten | although I'm not sure why it didn't run all night |
| 16:27.35 | Kaelten | :s |
| 16:27.48 | Kaelten | and in fact didn't run again |
| 16:27.57 | art3mis | fergot to include skillz.h ? |
| 16:28.00 | DarkImakuni | you didn't give it enough coffee I reckon... |
| 16:28.40 | Kaelten | # m h dom mon dow command |
| 16:28.41 | Kaelten | */20 * * * * "/var/mkfiles/mkfiles.sh" |
| 16:28.41 | Kaelten | */5 * * * * ps -e -o pid,rss,cmd | awk '($3 == "/usr/sbin/apache2" && $2 > 99999) { system("kill " $1) }' |
| 16:28.43 | Kaelten | well you tell me? |
| 16:29.46 | Tornhoof | what is rss? |
| 16:30.14 | Kaelten | thats been there for a while |
| 16:30.19 | Kaelten | and is unrelated |
| 16:30.49 | Amadeo | Chompers: haha |
| 16:30.57 | dodgizzla | Hm, what's wrong with your Apache that you probably kill it every 5 minutes? :D |
| 16:31.34 | art3mis | collect 8 elder bearflanks |
| 16:31.41 | art3mis | so far 45 dead bears 3 flanks |
| 16:31.49 | art3mis | stupid malnourished animals |
| 16:32.54 | Coruss | ol |
| 16:33.02 | Coruss | ol/lol |
| 16:33.30 | Amadeo | grr, I seriously hate Comcast |
| 16:34.08 | Amadeo | She tries to blame it on my router, then says a technician needs to come out to check my lines |
| 16:34.19 | Amadeo | when it's f'ing Level3.net and att.net routes that are screwing up |
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| 16:35.06 | Necrathex | anyone know a way to reroute system messages to another chat window? |
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| 16:35.28 | durcyn | right click on the chatframe menu, you'll find it eventually. |
| 16:35.39 | Jaxon | Necrathex: I used to use an addon called SystemMessageControlTool for that. |
| 16:35.48 | Necrathex | durcyn: i've been trying that |
| 16:36.17 | Necrathex | it just gives you options to chance the colors of the text, but it shows up in the 1st frame by default or something |
| 16:36.30 | Jaxon | Necrathex: http://wowui.incgamers.com/ui.php?id=1596 |
| 16:36.42 | Necrathex | Jaxon: thx, thought it was possible in the blizzui :( |
| 16:40.30 | Coruss | anyone know of an ace'd massmailer addon? |
| 16:40.49 | Coruss | looking for something to be able to mail all the level 70s in my guild |
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| 16:40.58 | Gngsk | Coruss, bulkmail2 and bulkmail2inbox |
| 16:41.06 | Gngsk | well, it can't do that |
| 16:41.15 | Gngsk | at least, as far as I know it can't |
| 16:43.15 | Coruss | anyone know what GuildMail does? there's no wiki page for it |
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| 16:45.07 | Veight` | help |
| 16:45.28 | sb | mhhh need nice trash farming spot |
| 16:45.53 | Dustwhisper| | does KTM 2.0 still spaz out omen btw ? |
| 16:45.56 | sb | eye: void reacer down, ssc: lurker, tidewalker, karathress down - not enough tanks for further bosses |
| 16:46.08 | sb | any suggestions? we want to farm some vortexes and stuff |
| 16:46.39 | Dustwhisper| | Leotheras requires 1 tank |
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| 16:46.41 | Dustwhisper| | and 1 warlock tank |
| 16:46.48 | Megalon | not engouth tanks for morogrim?! |
| 16:47.02 | Megalon | that implies you don't even got 1 :D |
| 16:47.08 | Dustwhisper| | he didnt say that |
| 16:47.09 | Megalon | ah, tidewarlk |
| 16:47.10 | Megalon | :X |
| 16:47.13 | Dustwhisper| | he said they have lurker tidewalker and karathress down |
| 16:47.15 | Dustwhisper| | anyways |
| 16:47.24 | Megalon | my brain is starting to melt away |
| 16:47.25 | Megalon | :< |
| 16:47.26 | Dustwhisper| | Leotheras = 1 tank + 1 warlock tank |
| 16:47.33 | Dustwhisper| | the adds in the beginning can be tanked by like a rogue |
| 16:47.43 | jme | hunter pet tanks! |
| 16:47.58 | Dustwhisper| | Im glad we have a lot of tanks =D |
| 16:48.36 | Dustwhisper| | 2 druid tanks but like 8 or 9 warriortanks |
| 16:49.21 | Pkekyo|cookieplz | is there an addon that will let me put notes on the tooltips of mobs? |
| 16:49.25 | Iceroth | we have shitloads of warriors as well :s |
| 16:49.43 | Iceroth | which is one of our downfalls, they are just useless at times |
| 16:49.53 | jme | the only thing we lack is healing |
| 16:50.12 | jme | they scheduled our first gruul attempt for this sunday... we'll see how that goes |
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| 16:50.53 | Iceroth | protection warriors who can't keep agro, dps warriors that can't dps.. zzz |
| 16:50.59 | jme | :( |
| 16:51.35 | Dustwhisper| | we had healingissues aswell |
| 16:51.38 | Dustwhisper| | and spazissues |
| 16:51.43 | Dustwhisper| | last night was our third night on vashj |
| 16:51.53 | Dustwhisper| | we had a some hours on her two other nights |
| 16:51.58 | Dustwhisper| | we could barely do phase2 |
| 16:52.02 | Dustwhisper| | then after 2 hours or so |
| 16:52.15 | Dustwhisper| | suddenly we got phase2 flawless and got her to 6% |
| 16:52.19 | Dustwhisper| | typical for our guild |
| 16:52.38 | mitch1 | uh-oh. someone created a mod pretty much like RangeDisplay |
| 16:52.50 | mitch1 | it's a horrible mess though |
| 16:53.19 | mitch1 | but a lot of effort |
| 16:54.16 | Pkekyo|cookieplz | is there an addon that will let me put notes on the tooltips of mobs? |
| 16:59.15 | mitch1 | omg |
| 17:00.19 | DarkImakuni | Pkekyo|cookieplz: http://wowui.incgamers.com/ui.php?id=1348 springs to mind but it's well out of date... |
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| 17:03.32 | Pkekyo|cookieplz | DarkImakuni: cheers |
| 17:05.33 | Josh_Borke | Kaelten: is cron still running? |
| 17:05.51 | Kaelten | it was running a few mins ago when I checked it |
| 17:05.59 | Josh_Borke | you could also check the cron logs |
| 17:06.07 | Josh_Borke | wrt not running all night that is |
| 17:06.20 | Kaelten | it outputs to syslogs it seems |
| 17:06.28 | Kaelten | but didn't see anything |
| 17:07.05 | Kaelten | I wish our post-commit scripts where setup as sanely as the pre-commit ones where |
| 17:08.15 | Josh_Borke | i say you dump files altogether ;-P |
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| 17:09.39 | Kaelten | lol |
| 17:09.55 | break19 | I wish someone could point me in the right directions, with debugging my addon... it appears that I'm getting several events firing, and printing the message like 4-6 times in one shot.. this is not intended.. I only want to have it display the FIRST time, and then again every time I use an ability, if the triggers are met.. |
| 17:10.12 | break19 | im aware of the cause.. just kinda stumped how to fix it.. |
| 17:10.15 | Cryect | use event bucketing |
| 17:11.17 | break19 | Cryect: I supposed I could... but I never have.. and I'm not quite sure how to do it.. can I put 3 events into the same bucket, so that if 1 of em fires within a certain time frame, it ignores the other two if they fire withing the same period? |
| 17:12.02 | Antiarc|Work | That's what a bucket is |
| 17:12.09 | break19 | like, I monitor combo points event, unit aura, and target change.... obvously, I only care if 1 of the 3 get fired, but since the triggers *could* be met if they do..... |
| 17:12.21 | Antiarc|Work | Well, buckets are for a single event |
| 17:12.24 | Antiarc|Work | What you could do - |
| 17:12.39 | Antiarc|Work | Is every time you catch an interesting event, set some variable - say lastInterestingEvent = GetTime() |
| 17:12.59 | Antiarc|Work | Well, first, check if GetTime() - lastInterestingEvent > 1.5 |
| 17:13.00 | Ominous | ise first = GetGameTime() if its the first and then do if GetGameTime() > first + difference then code |
| 17:13.00 | Antiarc|Work | If not, return |
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| 17:13.28 | Antiarc|Work | So that you only invoke your event handlers a maximum of once per 1.5 sec |
| 17:14.32 | break19 | hmm.. ok.. time to go break out my code monkey manual. :p |
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| 17:17.10 | break19 | Antiarc|Work: would this work as well? unregister the event, if the trigger is successful, schedule an event for 1.5s in the future, at that evernt, reset my events? |
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| 17:17.13 | Kaelten | does anyone actually use the google group anymore? |
| 17:17.26 | Ominous | break19: horrible way to do it |
| 17:17.27 | Antiarc|Work | break19: That's going to be a lot more resource intensive |
| 17:17.32 | break19 | ok then |
| 17:17.44 | Ominous | kaelten: google group? |
| 17:17.52 | Antiarc|Work | Here, do this (pastey inc) |
| 17:17.55 | Kaelten | lol |
| 17:18.00 | Kaelten | that kinda answers that |
| 17:18.57 | ckknight | I never used it, Kaelten |
| 17:19.11 | NightHawkAtWork | Kaelten: i think some might use its rss feed to check commits. *shrug* |
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| 17:19.33 | pastamancer | I use it to browse diffs |
| 17:19.38 | break19 | oh, and I noticed greyhoof kinda made my addon obsolete by adding in the change where debuff monitoring only monitors YOUR debuffs.. |
| 17:19.54 | Antiarc|Work | break19: Still useful for people that don't want to use SCT! |
| 17:19.54 | Kaelten | pastamancer: I'm having fun setting up the hooks on the new server :S |
| 17:20.00 | break19 | but, since I use parrot.. :) :) |
| 17:20.07 | Saladin | What's the name of the ace'd whisper box addon? |
| 17:20.08 | Antiarc|Work | http://ace.pastey.net/71659 |
| 17:20.30 | ZealotOnAStick | Cellular |
| 17:20.32 | Antiarc|Work | actually, that won't quite work as you'd expect, but it gives you the idea. |
| 17:20.36 | Saladin | brill! thanks ZealotOnAStick |
| 17:21.02 | Saladin | nothing sucks like forgetting the damn names >< |
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| 17:21.22 | CIA-22 | 03cryect * r45427 10Recount/healbuffs.lua: Recount - Bug fix related to heal buff tracking (for lifebloom specifically that don't belong to you) |
| 17:21.28 | break19 | Antiarc|Work: hmm.. and interesting way to do it... |
| 17:21.36 | break19 | s/and/an |
| 17:23.58 | break19 | I'll have to see though.. I kinda want a nearly instant notice when the "params are met".. then wait.. but maybe 1s will be fast enough.. but slow enough to not spam.. I'll run with that for a bit, see how it works before I commit that tho... |
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| 17:24.42 | ZealotOnAStick | Kaelten, while you're around, had a question for ya, actually . . . |
| 17:24.53 | Kaelten | ? |
| 17:25.20 | ZealotOnAStick | Precisely how did you configure the DNS tables for mail.wowace.com to get it to nicely play with gmail? |
| 17:25.35 | Kaelten | using their step by step instructions :) |
| 17:25.45 | ZealotOnAStick | I've got the MX records set up like how they want, but I'm not sure what to do with an A or C record entry. |
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| 17:26.51 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight 07ckknight * r45428 10Joker/LibJoker-1.0/LibJoker-1.0.lua: LibJoker-1.0 - remove redundant code with recycling. |
| 17:27.07 | Kaelten | CName to ghs.google.com |
| 17:27.19 | Kaelten | for mail.XXXX |
| 17:27.53 | Antiarc|Work | ZealotOnAStick: https://www.google.com/a/ |
| 17:32.10 | break19 | Antiarc|Work: yea, I grouped with another rogue last night, and thats when I noticed my addon was spamming me.. it didnt really do it if I was solo, since there arent as many events firing at once, I guess. |
| 17:32.40 | Josh_Borke | drop google groups imo |
| 17:32.59 | Jaxon | How feature "complete" is parrot? |
| 17:33.23 | Josh_Borke | wtb websvn for wowace :-D |
| 17:36.37 | Antiarc|Work | Very much so, Jaxon |
| 17:36.58 | Josh_Borke | he's moved on, so it must be 'done' |
| 17:37.02 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight 07ckknight * r45429 10Joker/LibJokerModuleCore-1.0/LibJokerModuleCore-1.0.lua: LibJokerModuleCore-1.0 - :HasModule(module) called on the library will return its core. |
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| 17:37.25 | Jaxon | Oh, I didn't know he'd moved onto another project, I haven't been paying much attention in here for a week or so. |
| 17:38.55 | Ominous | ckknight: hows joker coming along? |
| 17:39.08 | ckknight | Ominous: quite well |
| 17:39.45 | Fisker | lol wtf |
| 17:40.00 | jme | ckknight: what is joker? |
| 17:40.15 | ckknight | secret project |
| 17:40.21 | Fisker | i renamed my WTF folder to "WTF, WATCH OUT!" |
| 17:40.23 | Fisker | :P |
| 17:40.27 | jme | ckknight: heh |
| 17:41.23 | jme | ckknight: one project to rule them all, and in the darkness bind them? |
| 17:41.56 | durcyn | it's secret, that's why it's on the public source control. of course. |
| 17:42.10 | Ominous | :) |
| 17:42.17 | jme | didn't see it listed on files |
| 17:42.22 | Josh_Borke | it's in branches |
| 17:42.28 | Josh_Borke | joker is an addon framework |
| 17:42.41 | ckknight | it's possibly Ace3, jme |
| 17:42.46 | jme | ahh |
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| 17:43.50 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight 07ckknight * r45430 10Joker/LibJoker-1.0/LibJoker-1.0.lua: LibJoker-1.0 - added :IsActive() and :ToggleActive([state]) to addons. Doesn't hook up to a database yet. |
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| 17:46.14 | ckknight | looks like I just have localization, database, comm, and hooks left |
| 17:46.19 | ckknight | dang |
| 17:46.23 | ckknight | that's still a lot |
| 17:47.21 | moonsorrow | what would be the actual benefit of using joker instead of ace2? faster or some parts easier to use? |
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| 17:48.46 | ckknight | both is the idea |
| 17:48.50 | CIA-22 | 03jaslaughter * r45431 10JasonQuest/ (Core.lua JasonQuest.toc LogFrame.lua ReadMe.txt): |
| 17:48.50 | CIA-22 | JasonQuest: |
| 17:48.50 | CIA-22 | - [#] Number of members on quest indicator now updates with player updates |
| 17:48.50 | CIA-22 | - Details pane updates when party updates |
| 17:48.50 | CIA-22 | - Fixed compatibility issue with beql |
| 17:48.51 | ckknight | it fixes a lot of the warts |
| 17:49.00 | ckknight | and it takes out the bad stuff that no one cares about |
| 17:49.29 | moonsorrow | sounds interesting |
| 17:50.01 | ckknight | some major differences: |
| 17:50.05 | ckknight | renaming of assorted methods |
| 17:50.07 | Josh_Borke | ckknight: will it be a drop in? |
| 17:50.21 | ckknight | AceEvent split into timer and event parts instead of one chunk |
| 17:50.43 | ckknight | events are all namespaced |
| 17:50.48 | ckknight | Josh_Borke: how do you mean? |
| 17:51.11 | Josh_Borke | ckknight: addons will have to be rewritten to use it? |
| 17:51.14 | ckknight | the console library doesn't support AceOptions, cause I just don't see it being worth it |
| 17:51.42 | ckknight | Josh_Borke: not rewritten, just a few things changed. There'll be an outlined guide on how exactly to upgrade |
| 17:52.01 | ckknight | I doubt it'd take more than 5 minutes for a small mod |
| 17:52.14 | Josh_Borke | cool |
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| 17:52.52 | ckknight | there's some extra cool stuff in it, though |
| 17:52.56 | *** join/#wowace buchkurish (n=alien@65.100.61.206) |
| 17:53.04 | ckknight | such as recycling functions available to you |
| 17:53.05 | buchkurish | how hard is it to get tier six? |
| 17:53.42 | Josh_Borke | buchkurish: uh |
| 17:53.53 | Josh_Borke | buchkurish: it requires you to run SSC, Hyjal, and BT |
| 17:53.58 | ckknight | libraries would be harder to upgrade, mind you |
| 17:54.03 | buchkurish | very rare drops? |
| 17:54.06 | ckknight | cause the activation process and all is different |
| 17:54.06 | Josh_Borke | the 3 top end instances |
| 17:54.08 | buchkurish | i mean is it even possible |
| 17:54.11 | Ominous | ckknight: you going to change all your addons over? |
| 17:54.15 | NeoTron | so is Joker basically "ace3"? |
| 17:54.20 | ckknight | NeoTron: "basically" |
| 17:54.23 | Josh_Borke | buchkurish: if you are in a guild that can tackle those instances, then not very. |
| 17:54.29 | ckknight | Ominous: eventually |
| 17:54.30 | durcyn | uh, Josh_Borke, ssc is only required for attunement to hyjal, as is TK |
| 17:54.31 | Josh_Borke | buchkurish: there aren't a lot of guilds that can do that though |
| 17:54.40 | durcyn | t6 does not drop there |
| 17:54.41 | Josh_Borke | durcyn: vashj/kael don't drop T6? |
| 17:54.45 | Josh_Borke | oh, ok, i'm just dumb then |
| 17:54.47 | durcyn | no, that's tier 5. |
| 17:54.51 | Josh_Borke | i dunno |
| 17:54.55 | Josh_Borke | i haven't even cleared kara :-d |
| 17:54.59 | durcyn | t6 is azgalor, archimonde, EOS, illidari council, and illidan. |
| 17:55.11 | NeoTron | vashj = T5 helm, kael = T5 chest |
| 17:55.31 | ckknight | Ominous: that is, if it actually becomes Ace3 |
| 17:55.32 | moonsorrow | eos doesn't drop t6 |
| 17:55.42 | durcyn | oh right. |
| 17:55.43 | moonsorrow | mother shahraz drops one |
| 17:56.01 | buchkurish | that rare huh |
| 17:56.24 | NeoTron | it's not rare per se as they are guaranteed drops |
| 17:56.40 | buchkurish | Josh_Borke: roughly how many hehe |
| 17:56.45 | buchkurish | Josh_Borke: out of all wow players |
| 17:57.41 | NeoTron | http://www.wowjutsu.com/us/ |
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| 17:58.14 | NeoTron | hyjal and BT seem to have around 1.5 and 1.28% of US guilds killing content.. |
| 17:58.55 | NeoTron | 0.17, 0.13, 0.10, 0.77 and 0.42 for the tier 6 drop bosses |
| 17:58.59 | NeoTron | so.. no that many |
| 17:59.29 | ccKep | yeahhh |
| 17:59.30 | jme | we're still a kara farm guild, attempting gruul this weekend |
| 17:59.35 | ccKep | kael pulled -> server offline |
| 17:59.41 | jme | lol |
| 17:59.45 | NeoTron | I'm a sad warlock |
| 17:59.50 | NeoTron | forced into a world of demonology. /cry |
| 17:59.54 | ccKep | "Power. Source." "I can't cast" "......." |
| 17:59.57 | siIentium | ~seen derkyle |
| 18:00.01 | purl | siIentium: i haven't seen 'derkyle' |
| 18:01.43 | Clovenhoof | Anyone having problems connecting to teh dev.wowace.com SVN server? |
| 18:02.00 | buchkurish | damn |
| 18:02.06 | buchkurish | those are low % drops |
| 18:02.13 | ccKep | OH MAN |
| 18:02.15 | buchkurish | i wonder who has tier six |
| 18:02.18 | ccKep | what a nice raid evening... |
| 18:02.22 | NightHawkAtWork | they're not low percent drops |
| 18:02.24 | ccKep | kael pull #1, shit happens on capernian |
| 18:02.27 | ccKep | MT #3 20mins afk |
| 18:02.32 | ccKep | kael pull #2, server shutdown |
| 18:02.33 | NightHawkAtWork | t6 is guaranteed to drop from the bosses that drop them. |
| 18:02.35 | ccKep | trash respawn....... |
| 18:02.38 | ccKep | feck it |
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| 18:02.50 | break19 | jme.. well.. we have hogger on farm.. gonna be headin for vc this weekend... |
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| 18:02.57 | jme | break19: woot! |
| 18:03.17 | jme | break19: did you see the video where 20 or 30 level 1's took down hogger? |
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| 18:03.19 | break19 | yea.. I got me some o that t minus 20 gear. |
| 18:03.26 | NeoTron | buchkurish: not drop percentages, but percentage of guilds doing that cotnent |
| 18:03.29 | break19 | yea, I've seen that, lol |
| 18:03.36 | NeoTron | tier tokens have 200% drop chance (i.e 2 tokens per kill) |
| 18:04.21 | buchkurish | NeoTron: i dont get it |
| 18:04.32 | buchkurish | NeoTron: what percentage of guildings doing some content.. i |
| 18:04.34 | buchkurish | .. |
| 18:04.34 | jme | NeoTron: er, i haven't seen two tokens drop from curator |
| 18:04.36 | buchkurish | confused |
| 18:05.19 | NeoTron | jme: 25-man bosses releases 2 |
| 18:05.23 | NeoTron | 10-man just 1 |
| 18:05.26 | jme | NeoTron: ah, gotcha |
| 18:05.48 | buchkurish | what are tokens |
| 18:05.54 | buchkurish | tier tokens |
| 18:05.55 | buchkurish | whater those |
| 18:05.57 | Dustwhisper| | im looking forward to tokens |
| 18:05.59 | Dustwhisper| | will be nicer |
| 18:05.59 | NeoTron | an item you turn into the actual armor piece |
| 18:06.19 | NightHawkAtWork | you don |
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| 18:06.26 | NightHawkAtWork | you don't "get" a lot, do you. |
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| 18:08.02 | buchkurish | no |
| 18:08.05 | buchkurish | i am an idiot |
| 18:08.12 | buchkurish | i dont get nuthin |
| 18:08.42 | NightHawkAtWork | Well that much is obvious. |
| 18:08.54 | Josh_Borke | wowace is down :-( |
| 18:09.09 | NightHawkAtWork | wasn't Kaelten messing with the servers or something? |
| 18:10.25 | Industrial | wtb demo.wowace.com with the new site as it gets built |
| 18:10.26 | Industrial | :P |
| 18:10.35 | Gnarfoz | rogues: should I respec from http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=fhe0oxZGcEz0VzxMGot to http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=wheboxZGcVb0VzxrGot ? |
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| 18:14.52 | Gnarfoz | Antiarc: how much +hit you got in a raid situation? |
| 18:16.24 | CIA-22 | 03oridan * r45432 10ShoutReminder/ShoutReminder.lua: |
| 18:16.24 | CIA-22 | ShoutReminder: |
| 18:16.25 | CIA-22 | - remove the timer when debuff is removed forcefully (or charges run out) |
| 18:16.25 | CIA-22 | - adds a timer bar for buffs granted by other players which are being tracked by yourself. |
| 18:18.16 | DarkImakuni | It's alive! ...not the way I wanted it to be but it's alive! |
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| 18:19.37 | Gngsk | Gnarfoz, imo yes |
| 18:19.49 | Gngsk | Gnarfoz, I spec'd out of riposte and miss it so much /cry |
| 18:19.55 | Antiarc|Work | Gnarfoz: I'm running...290ish right now, I think |
| 18:20.06 | Gngsk | although, endurance is really nice |
| 18:20.12 | deltron | sword spec -__ |
| 18:20.21 | deltron | s/-__/-_-/ |
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| 18:21.29 | Gnarfoz | deltron: it's where it's at ;) |
| 18:21.37 | Gngsk | wait that didn't make any sense |
| 18:21.39 | Gngsk | keep riposte! |
| 18:21.42 | Gnarfoz | Antiarc: hm alright |
| 18:22.01 | Gnarfoz | Gngsk: yeah I was wondering which standpoint you were arguing now ;> |
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| 18:27.22 | Gngsk | heh |
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| 18:35.15 | Speeddymon | wtf |
| 18:35.32 | CIA-22 | 03clovenhoof * r45433 10RootsBidder/ (. Comms/ GUI/ Libs/ RootsBidder.lua Textures/): |
| 18:35.32 | CIA-22 | RootsBidder: |
| 18:35.32 | CIA-22 | - Only show Raid Query Tablet when Actually in a Raid |
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| 18:40.46 | Josh_Borke | cryect: you never answered my question |
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| 18:47.04 | Droolio | ckknight: any idea when u might be able to tackle that AceComm custom distro buglette? :) |
| 18:47.51 | NeoTron | So I wonder if, for a holy pally, if Seal of Command or Seal of Venegance is better |
| 18:48.00 | ckknight | Droolio: no, not really, and in all honesty in Joker (Ace3), I'm planning on removing custom channel support |
| 18:48.05 | NeoTron | given a fast wpn for seal of venegannce and slow for SoC |
| 18:49.09 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r45434 10Ace2/AceConsole-2.0/AceConsole-2.0.lua: .AceConsole-2.0 - autodoc the AceConsole namespace. |
| 18:49.15 | Droolio | ckknight: why in particular? |
| 18:49.31 | DarkImakuni | er... how do I set svn:eol-style on a file which is yet to be commited? |
| 18:49.32 | CIA-22 | 03jerry * r45435 10ItemBonusLib/ItemBonusLib-1.0/ItemBonusLib-1.0.lua: ItemBonusLib: fix parsing of resilience rating. Thanks Xinhuan |
| 18:49.49 | Ominous | svn import .... --auto-props |
| 18:49.52 | ckknight | Droolio: well, custom channels, zone channels, and the global channel. I'm thinking only supporting the proper CHAT_MSG_ADDON streams is better, easier, leads to less code, etc. |
| 18:50.07 | ckknight | don't have to worry about drunkenness or anything |
| 18:50.13 | ckknight | or staying UTF-8 |
| 18:50.47 | jme | :: 8.6% = Max Hit % needed to "never miss"**** on Level 73 Boss Mobs. |
| 18:50.49 | jme | mt |
| 18:51.11 | Thiana | How do you set the alpha of a candybar? |
| 18:51.17 | DarkImakuni | Ominous: is that possible with Tortoise? |
| 18:52.25 | Ominous | oh no |
| 18:52.28 | Ominous | dont use that |
| 18:52.51 | Droolio | ckknight: hmm well i see the main advantage of AceComm is that it handles the clean joining and leaving of channels. plus the addon streams only use RAID and GUILD etc.. with my addon, i want data to be sync'd further than that :/ |
| 18:52.52 | Ominous | i mean i dont use that |
| 18:53.11 | DarkImakuni | you mean use a different program? |
| 18:53.51 | ckknight | Droolio: can I ask what for? |
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| 18:53.56 | Ominous | DarkImakuni: no, tsvn is good but i dont use it |
| 18:54.26 | DarkImakuni | oh right |
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| 18:55.19 | Droolio | ckknight: it tracks the times of the various transports and sync's that data to anyone else with the addon |
| 18:55.44 | ckknight | hrm |
| 18:55.57 | Killmore | hey ! |
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| 19:02.09 | DarkImakuni | well, the wiki hasn't helped... |
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| 19:05.29 | NeoTron | man imagine if they add a new clas in the expansion and 10 more levels |
| 19:05.34 | NeoTron | lolreroll 80 levels |
| 19:05.53 | DarkImakuni | NeoTron: Hero Classes :) |
| 19:05.57 | NeoTron | wouldn't be so crap if the first 60 levels weren't so bad (or at least 40 levels if you're draenei/bE) |
| 19:06.07 | FtH|Daemona | Cryect -> http://wowace.pastey.net/71660 |
| 19:06.07 | NeoTron | hero class would be good |
| 19:06.08 | Aenslaed | hrm |
| 19:06.20 | NeoTron | if it didn't mean reroll (unless they revamp the old world to be less painful) |
| 19:06.21 | Aenslaed | I seemed to have lost the boss loot portion of cartographer |
| 19:06.37 | dylanm | Yeah going back and leveling alts I see how much worse the old zones are. |
| 19:06.57 | DarkImakuni | NeoTron: http://wow.incgamers.com/forums/showthread.php?t=401330 :) |
| 19:07.42 | CIA-22 | 03break19 * r45436 10EnvenomX/core.lua: |
| 19:07.42 | CIA-22 | EnvenomX |
| 19:07.42 | CIA-22 | - Fixed the spamming of "Envenom!" that can sometimes occur in special cases. |
| 19:07.42 | CIA-22 | - Removed some un-used code |
| 19:07.44 | Arrowmaster | its the 40-58 thats the worst |
| 19:08.57 | NeoTron | DarkImakuni: yeah well I hardly believe that to be reliable |
| 19:09.00 | NeoTron | Arrowmaster: yes |
| 19:09.45 | break19 | NeoTron: only one problem I can see with hero classes.. and thats from a sales perspective.. how to draw in more NEW customers, ie expand your base.. if you add stuff that only existing customers get to see immediately, where the extra incentive for new players to sign up.. |
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| 19:10.45 | b1f30_w0rk | hey all - looking for 2 addons in particular - a good DKP meter, and a bank addon, if such things exist |
| 19:10.49 | Ominous | DarkImakuni: MAYBE do make a folder using repo browser, rename current addon folder, chekout new folder and copy files from old folder to new folder and add them then commit, (dont know) |
| 19:11.21 | Arrowmaster | whats darkimakuni trying to do? |
| 19:11.31 | Thrae | break19: I think they may implement something like the "mentoring" system from City of Heroes eventually -- the game is becoming too top-heavy. |
| 19:11.53 | DarkImakuni | Arrowmaster: I'm trying to commit a new addon, but I can't because of svn:eol-style :( |
| 19:12.04 | Thrae | break19: Or at least, they'll have to when real competition comes up. |
| 19:12.09 | Ominous | import with tsvn and autoprops, he says hes added them into the config but i know when i had to import sometthing in command line i had to ad --auto-props on the end |
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| 19:12.23 | break19 | Thrae: yea.. unless you have a friend to help you, its not gonna be a whole of fun, trying to learn while all the pros are rolling their alts and calling you noob |
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| 19:12.47 | Arrowmaster | whats the name of the folder your trying to create and where is it? trunk? |
| 19:13.05 | Ominous | hes trying to import his addon |
| 19:13.16 | Thrae | break19: Well, WoW is kinda unique in that you can play it "solo", which a lot of casuals seem to really enjoy. But they also enjoy grouping too, and the game is becoming worse for that |
| 19:13.43 | b1f30_w0rk | the game is becoming worse because of a bunch of greedy little freaks |
| 19:13.47 | break19 | Thrae: you used the word casual as if it were a swear word... I'm basically a casual :) |
| 19:14.11 | break19 | im more in the middle tho |
| 19:14.13 | Thrae | break19: Errr there's nothing wrong with being a casual, I'm a casual... |
| 19:14.23 | Arrowmaster | DarkImakuni: youve read http://www.wowace.com/wiki/SVN_AutoProps right? |
| 19:14.29 | DarkImakuni | yep |
| 19:14.31 | break19 | not quite hard-core, but not exactly a 4hr a week player either. |
| 19:14.55 | Thrae | break19: I think you mean 40hr a week -- 4hr a week is -definately- casual ;) |
| 19:15.10 | Arrowmaster | DarkImakuni: other option is to import an empty dir first then check it out and add your files to it and you should be able to set the props then |
| 19:15.13 | Ominous | Arrowmaster: all i can remember is when i commited ClassTimer i had to do something like svn import . http://... --auto-props as it didnt try to use them in the import |
| 19:15.21 | break19 | I meant what I said.. I'm in the middle of 40hr wk and 4hr week :) |
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| 19:16.01 | break19 | i play when I can, but I wont drop what Im doing just because someone wants to run an instance. |
| 19:16.16 | ramoz | How come i get SCTd - hit - random num - random num with latelst sct and sctd? |
| 19:16.39 | break19 | grey broke sct? heh |
| 19:16.44 | break19 | parrot ftw :) |
| 19:16.50 | ramoz | yeah |
| 19:17.01 | ramoz | well maybe this is i kick in my ass to switch to parrot |
| 19:17.07 | ramoz | i only get it when im hit |
| 19:17.16 | CIA-22 | 03darkimakuni * r45437 10TeamSqueak/: |
| 19:17.16 | CIA-22 | TeamSqueak |
| 19:17.16 | CIA-22 | - Create folder remotley |
| 19:17.28 | break19 | i dunno.. he committed a BUNCH of changes recently.. maybe he broke somethin |
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| 19:17.58 | Chompers | for Mage PvE, what tree should i go down? |
| 19:18.24 | b1f30_w0rk | frost |
| 19:18.26 | b1f30_w0rk | :-) |
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| 19:18.35 | ramoz | Lol |
| 19:18.46 | break19 | i tried it.. and didnt like it.. it felt.. clunky |
| 19:19.05 | b1f30_w0rk | don't do arcane for PVE.. you wanna talk about slow |
| 19:19.07 | break19 | i havent tried msbt tho.. but I like parrot |
| 19:19.54 | CIA-22 | 03darkimakuni * r45438 10TeamSqueak/ (8 files in 2 dirs): |
| 19:19.54 | CIA-22 | TeamSqueak |
| 19:19.54 | CIA-22 | - Initial commit |
| 19:19.54 | CIA-22 | - Allows you to see who is using their Push To Talk button in communication programs such as TeamSpeak. |
| 19:20.01 | DarkImakuni | Yippee! |
| 19:20.05 | ramoz | wut? |
| 19:20.07 | ramoz | this works? |
| 19:20.12 | DarkImakuni | ~hug Arrowmaster |
| 19:20.13 | purl | ACTION hugs Arrowmaster |
| 19:20.59 | break19 | my little, cobbled-together envenom addon is basically coded with parrot in mind, but since it uses SinkLib, it'll publish to any scrolling text addon supported by sink, which is currently the 3 major ones, parrot, sct, msbt.. and it works with blizz's internal one, tho I've yet to try it and see how it looks, lol |
| 19:21.00 | Ominous | huh, what do you mean who is using ptt? |
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| 19:21.19 | buchkurish | are tier tokens hard to get? |
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| 19:21.30 | Arrowmaster | t4 isnt |
| 19:21.32 | Chompers | which tier? |
| 19:21.37 | buchkurish | tier five |
| 19:21.39 | buchkurish | i mean |
| 19:21.40 | buchkurish | tier six |
| 19:21.41 | break19 | ramoz: I'm sure it requires that the user talking also has the addon, and has it config'd properly. |
| 19:22.09 | Chompers | weird question buchkurish |
| 19:22.26 | Chompers | it's not hard if you've got 24 well geared/attuned friends |
| 19:22.36 | buchkurish | mm oki |
| 19:22.41 | buchkurish | i guess that would be the hard part |
| 19:22.50 | buchkurish | Chompers: would that be the best best gear there is tier six? |
| 19:22.56 | Arrowmaster | thats the hardest part of wow raiding |
| 19:23.01 | Arrowmaster | getting a good raid |
| 19:23.09 | Chompers | tier6 is the best at the moment |
| 19:23.21 | buchkurish | and all i need is 24 good suckers like me? |
| 19:23.33 | Arrowmaster | no |
| 19:23.38 | buchkurish | 40? |
| 19:23.43 | Arrowmaster | 24 well geared good players |
| 19:23.55 | buchkurish | ok =) |
| 19:24.03 | buchkurish | exactly how good is this tier six? |
| 19:24.05 | buchkurish | darn good? |
| 19:24.11 | Arrowmaster | yeah |
| 19:24.22 | Chompers | what do you want it for? |
| 19:24.26 | buchkurish | gnome rogue |
| 19:24.39 | Chompers | can't you try some arena? |
| 19:24.40 | buchkurish | and undead rogue on horde server |
| 19:24.55 | buchkurish | ..well ive twinked a super twink night elf at 49 |
| 19:25.03 | buchkurish | rogue, now im leveling a gnome rogue on aliance and rogue on horde |
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| 19:25.25 | buchkurish | i am a good leader and have good friends with |
| 19:25.34 | buchkurish | so i am just curuios about these things |
| 19:25.43 | buchkurish | and if its really worth breaking myself for that tier 6 |
| 19:25.46 | Arrowmaster | have you ever raided before? |
| 19:25.52 | buchkurish | also another thing is that by the time i get it will the y raise cap? |
| 19:26.04 | buchkurish | Arrowmaster: i havent |
| 19:26.15 | Chompers | oh man |
| 19:26.20 | Ominous | you have a long journey ahead of you |
| 19:26.25 | Arrowmaster | then you probably wont get to the tier6 instances in a while |
| 19:26.27 | buchkurish | ...lots say |
| 19:26.29 | Chompers | you really have no idea how much efforts involved |
| 19:26.39 | Ominous | and how hard the enounters are |
| 19:26.40 | buchkurish | i have an idia |
| 19:26.43 | buchkurish | but you are right i dont |
| 19:26.47 | Chompers | we're talking months |
| 19:26.53 | buchkurish | i thought so heh |
| 19:27.00 | NightHawkAtWork | months if you're good, and lucky. |
| 19:27.01 | buchkurish | ..well i gota obtain good 24 gearers |
| 19:27.02 | Chompers | every night for hours at a time |
| 19:27.11 | buchkurish | well |
| 19:27.16 | Chompers | you'll have to start at the very bottom, karazhan |
| 19:27.17 | buchkurish | ive played for a bout 7 months |
| 19:27.19 | buchkurish | 9 months |
| 19:27.20 | ramoz | SCTD - Ace2 - 113 25 (appends when i have fire shield from imp) |
| 19:27.23 | buchkurish | i gota full super twink rogue |
| 19:27.28 | buchkurish | all hne needs is mongose |
| 19:27.40 | buchkurish | ive gota shaman somewhere in the 40s.. another human rogue in 40s |
| 19:27.41 | Josh_Borke | buchkurish: to get tier 6 will take months |
| 19:27.44 | buchkurish | and now a gnome.. |
| 19:27.47 | buchkurish | so ill work hard for it |
| 19:27.52 | buchkurish | but the thing is that |
| 19:27.58 | buchkurish | how often to they raise cap |
| 19:28.02 | buchkurish | that tier six will be ass |
| 19:28.07 | Chompers | what's your servers progression? |
| 19:28.09 | Ominous | you wont be able to have any life and get it on all your chars |
| 19:28.13 | buchkurish | ill bust myself for it and the next moring ill wake up haha get tier 7 |
| 19:28.16 | Josh_Borke | we won't see another lvl raise for 6 months |
| 19:28.22 | buchkurish | oh no |
| 19:28.23 | buchkurish | no sir |
| 19:28.23 | Josh_Borke | and you won't get tier 7 |
| 19:28.27 | buchkurish | i just want it on gnome rogue |
| 19:28.35 | buchkurish | i like to hide.. the best thats what i like to play |
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| 19:28.36 | CIA-22 | TeamSqueak |
| 19:28.36 | CIA-22 | - Setting externals |
| 19:28.39 | buchkurish | i just want him tier six |
| 19:28.49 | buchkurish | my server isnt that well |
| 19:28.56 | buchkurish | but i get along with some really good people |
| 19:29.03 | buchkurish | they see some good ttalent in me and stic kwith |
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| 19:29.33 | buchkurish | so no tier 7 is coming out? |
| 19:29.39 | Josh_Borke | not for a while |
| 19:29.42 | buchkurish | tier 6 will be uber for a while while? |
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| 19:30.02 | buchkurish | ..one of the times i started palying th twinked rogue i spent 25+ just pvp |
| 19:30.04 | buchkurish | staright |
| 19:30.08 | Josh_Borke | and tier 7 will still only be available to raid instances |
| 19:30.08 | buchkurish | but that was long ago |
| 19:30.11 | Gnarfoz | that while will be shorter than the time it will take you to acquire it, thought. |
| 19:30.12 | buchkurish | that was pretty .. gr |
| 19:30.46 | buchkurish | wait |
| 19:30.48 | buchkurish | Josh_Borke: what do yo umean |
| 19:30.58 | buchkurish | Josh_Borke: isnt tier six raid to ono? or just tokens |
| 19:31.08 | Thrae | !ar 232 |
| 19:31.08 | ThraeBot | Thrae: Arena rating from 232 points is, 2v2: 1383, 3v3: 1274, 5v5: 1121 |
| 19:31.14 | Kalman|work | What the hell did I just walk into... |
| 19:31.23 | Josh_Borke | buchkurish: tokens are dropped by raid bosses |
| 19:31.27 | buchkurish | oh |
| 19:31.35 | Josh_Borke | and ONLY by raid bosses |
| 19:31.36 | NightHawkAtWork | Kalman|: walk aback out again, trust me. :P |
| 19:31.45 | buchkurish | how many? |
| 19:31.49 | Kalman| | NightHawkAtWork: I have to go get an IDP, so I think I might, but... wow. |
| 19:31.50 | Josh_Borke | how many what? |
| 19:31.56 | buchkurish | does one boss drop |
| 19:31.59 | Josh_Borke | 1 or 2 |
| 19:32.04 | NightHawkAtWork | Kalman|: "wow" is so much of an understatement. |
| 19:32.05 | buchkurish | and how many tokens for 1 tier 6 piece |
| 19:32.14 | Josh_Borke | 1 token |
| 19:32.18 | Amadeo | Anyone have old laptop RAM laying around? :) |
| 19:32.27 | buchkurish | Amadeo: i do =) |
| 19:32.29 | ramoz | any way i can get in touch with greyhoof? |
| 19:32.30 | buchkurish | Amadeo: hehe |
| 19:32.33 | Amadeo | really? haha |
| 19:32.37 | Josh_Borke | tokens are not guaranteed drops |
| 19:32.45 | buchkurish | Amadeo: ya pretty old i think like 32 bit ram |
| 19:32.59 | ckknight | ramoz: the forums maybe |
| 19:33.47 | NightHawkAtWork | Josh_Borke: er, i thought you were guaranteed to get n tier tokens from any boss that drops them? |
| 19:33.47 | Antiarc|Work | Josh_Borke: Err. What token-dropping bosses don't drop tokens? |
| 19:33.55 | Antiarc|Work | I have never seen a boss fail to drop a token. |
| 19:34.17 | Josh_Borke | you're not guaranteed to get the token you want is what i meant |
| 19:34.42 | Kalman| | I've seen bosses fail to drop tokens all the time. Of course, it's because we fail to drop the boss. :/ |
| 19:34.44 | Antiarc|Work | Oh, well, naturally. |
| 19:34.56 | Antiarc|Work | I've been going to Karazhan for approximately 3 years and I still don't have my T4 hat. |
| 19:34.57 | Josh_Borke | Antiarc|Work: not naturally in the case of someone who doesn't know |
| 19:35.04 | Antiarc|Work | Because all that prince ever drops is damned defender. |
| 19:35.12 | Amadeo | 3 years!? |
| 19:35.18 | jme | we've seen two sunfuries so far |
| 19:35.25 | jme | i wasn't there for either kill :X |
| 19:35.26 | Amadeo | must be scale years! |
| 19:35.28 | Antiarc|Work | Yeah, I've been playing with timewarp technology in an attempt to get my T4 hat |
| 19:35.33 | Amadeo | haha |
| 19:35.47 | jme | i don't have any t4 yet heh |
| 19:36.09 | Antiarc|Work | I'm 3/5 because Maulgar and Prince never, ever drop Champion for us. Ever. |
| 19:36.13 | Gnarfoz | what'd you want it for, anyway? |
| 19:36.24 | Antiarc|Work | Set bonus, meta socket. |
| 19:36.25 | Gnarfoz | ah, maulgar doesn't comply either, I esee |
| 19:36.28 | jme | i've been there for 4 or 5 curator kills... t4 dropped once, lost the roll |
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| 19:36.35 | jme | er, my t4 |
| 19:36.45 | Antiarc|Work | I'm rockin' a Malefic Mask right now, but I'd love to put a haste meta in a PVE hat. |
| 19:36.48 | Gnarfoz | got my t4 chest as my first t4 piece :> |
| 19:36.51 | jme | we seem to always get the pally shoulders and something else |
| 19:36.58 | jme | err gloves |
| 19:36.59 | Kalman| | It's okay, Antiarc. At least you have upgrades to look forward to. Kara hates my quest for a Rittsyn's. :/ |
| 19:37.01 | jme | <- can't think |
| 19:37.06 | Gnarfoz | Antiarc|Work: the "newer" one? it's supposed to have a hidden 1min cd on the proc ;\ |
| 19:37.09 | Antiarc|Work | Kalman|: We disenchanted two last run. |
| 19:37.15 | Kalman| | I hate you so much. |
| 19:37.25 | Antiarc|Work | That thing drops like candy for us. |
| 19:37.27 | Antiarc|Work | It's pretty stupid. |
| 19:37.34 | Antiarc|Work | All our shadow priest/warlock alts have it |
| 19:37.53 | Antiarc|Work | We've started joking that Rittsyn didn't lose it, he threw it away because he had so many. |
| 19:38.01 | Kalman| | I need to start making it to Kara again, but they need to stop sticking it on weekend evenings. |
| 19:38.03 | ravagernl | guys what library can do /in 3 /say hello world |
| 19:38.34 | Antiarc|Work | We've seen only on Drape of the Dark Reavers, though |
| 19:38.39 | Antiarc|Work | And I lost that to a hunter |
| 19:38.43 | Antiarc|Work | One Garona's, too. |
| 19:38.46 | Antiarc|Work | And I lost that to a hunter. |
| 19:38.54 | Gnarfoz | heh |
| 19:38.54 | Antiarc|Work | So yeh. |
| 19:39.02 | Gnarfoz | got garona's and chess shoulders last night |
| 19:39.11 | break19 | ... hunter gear!! |
| 19:39.12 | Antiarc|Work | Oh, and we've never seen the chess shoulders. |
| 19:39.17 | Antiarc|Work | I'm still using Assassination. |
| 19:39.20 | Antiarc|Work | It's pretty retarded. |
| 19:39.27 | Kalman| | Should be possible to do it with AceEvent scheduling/firing a custom event, with your addon watching for that event and exporting to chat? |
| 19:39.53 | Kalman| | Unless you literally meant "What library out there lets me do /in commands in the editbox", in which case I feel like it's something from Cosmos. |
| 19:39.56 | kergoth | my rogue has ccrap gear, but he has those chess shoulders.. i finally got my hourglass of the unraveller, now that i'm not mutilate and dont need crit as much as i used to.. |
| 19:40.17 | Gnarfoz | hourglass sucks anyway, with it's hidden cd ;\ |
| 19:40.29 | Gnarfoz | (maybe if you want it just for the +crit) |
| 19:40.47 | ravagernl | kalman| : I can do /in 4 /say hello, but I don't have anything from cosmos, or have the chronos library installed |
| 19:40.56 | Ominous | kergoth: you blaspheme, mutulate FTW :P |
| 19:41.03 | kergoth | well, my only other trinkets were the abacus and the mark of conquest that i only wanted for farming.. not far into kara yet, not a lot of options |
| 19:41.34 | Gnarfoz | I'm at 309 +hit now (still several blue items (7, 8 if I count nefarian boots ^^)) - If I get any more +hit gear I swear my gnome is going to explode ;D |
| 19:41.42 | kergoth | hehe, nice |
| 19:41.52 | Gnarfoz | gonna pick it up anyway though, so I can lose the worst pieces and replace them with other stats ^^ |
| 19:41.57 | ravagernl | Quite funny kergoth, have hourglass of the unraveler, but for a hunter mark of conquest is better XD |
| 19:42.03 | kergoth | hehe |
| 19:42.22 | kergoth | that mana regen on mark must be handy, i should get it for my hunter |
| 19:42.24 | Antiarc|Work | WTB Dragonspine or Warp-Spring :( |
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| 19:44.30 | Gnarfoz | Antiarc: i concur |
| 19:44.41 | Gnarfoz | and a poison vial, if you please |
| 19:44.57 | Josh_Borke | what horde race should i make my mage? |
| 19:45.26 | Gnarfoz | whichever you like to look at the longest ;P |
| 19:45.30 | Josh_Borke | hehe |
| 19:45.34 | NightHawkAtWork | so, belf female then? |
| 19:45.51 | Josh_Borke | can't play a female, just can't bring myself to it |
| 19:46.13 | NightHawkAtWork | it's not that hard when you realize that it's all just pixels and doesn't actually matter :) |
| 19:46.30 | [dRaCo] | male troll are ugly, blood elfs are ..., so you gotta go undead. |
| 19:47.58 | jme | Josh_Borke: dude. will of the forsaken |
| 19:48.44 | Josh_Borke | yea, but i abhor pvp |
| 19:49.25 | Josh_Borke | are any of the Belf racials useful in pve? |
| 19:49.48 | Amadeo | Yes, depending on the class |
| 19:49.48 | [dRaCo] | that silence thingy is pretty handy sometimes |
| 19:49.50 | jme | mana tap and arcane torrent.. gives you a bit of a mana return when it's stacked x3, torrent silences |
| 19:50.06 | jme | silence could be useful in pvp too, i just forget to use it |
| 19:50.13 | [dRaCo] | ^^ |
| 19:50.16 | kergoth | i've thought about starting a second rogue, belf or undead, and just pvp with them.. havent decided though |
| 19:50.36 | jme | like when i'm standing in front of a mage on the EP watching him charge his pyro and do nothing, and i'm dead in 2 seconds |
| 19:50.39 | Josh_Borke | kergoth: roll a rogue with my mage |
| 19:50.56 | jme | need to learn to silence, wing clip, trap, fly away |
| 19:51.07 | Josh_Borke | you rolled a belf huntard? |
| 19:51.11 | jme | yeah |
| 19:51.14 | jme | it's my main now |
| 19:51.17 | Josh_Borke | man you're dumb :-P |
| 19:51.21 | jme | thanks |
| 19:51.30 | [dRaCo] | never seen a belf hunter before o0 |
| 19:51.39 | [dRaCo] | they all are paladings or mages here. |
| 19:51.48 | [dRaCo] | s/paladings/paladins/ |
| 19:51.55 | jme | [dRaCo]: http://tinyurl.com/38f4sw <-- that's me |
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| 19:52.38 | [dRaCo] | now I've seen everything. |
| 19:52.40 | ccKep | doing mag/gruul instead of kael makes me a sad panda -.- |
| 19:52.52 | jme | [dRaCo]: :O |
| 19:53.10 | jme | [dRaCo]: looking back i wish i had made a troll |
| 19:53.13 | jme | or an orc even |
| 19:53.40 | jme | i was still a nub then, didn't really pay attention much to racial bonuses or spells |
| 19:53.45 | [dRaCo] | ^^ |
| 19:54.13 | Josh_Borke | ckknight: are you keeping memos in AceComm? |
| 19:54.18 | Josh_Borke | erm, JokerComm? |
| 19:54.26 | Josh_Borke | and does anyone actually use them? |
| 19:54.27 | ckknight | yes, I'm thinking so |
| 19:54.35 | ckknight | yea, I use em quite a bit |
| 19:54.47 | Josh_Borke | i didn't know any of your mods communicated |
| 19:54.50 | Josh_Borke | which ones communicate? |
| 19:55.02 | ckknight | Cartographer |
| 19:55.09 | Josh_Borke | ah, for positioning |
| 19:55.11 | Josh_Borke | right |
| 19:56.41 | Bejitt | omg Parrot ... i can't not turn config mode off |
| 19:56.45 | Bejitt | it's so... trippy |
| 19:57.04 | NightHawkAtWork | can't not? |
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| 19:57.17 | Bejitt | er, something like that |
| 19:58.08 | jme | i need to start farming for my surestrike goggles |
| 19:58.22 | ravagernl | so, in aceevent's :ScheduleEvent(event , delay , ...) can you specify half a second as delay for example? |
| 19:58.29 | break19 | jme, farm for me too... |
| 19:58.42 | jme | break19: :( |
| 19:59.41 | jme | watch me start farming and get my t4 helm this week anyway |
| 20:00.03 | break19 | if you do, can I have you ss2.0 goggle mats? :) |
| 20:00.09 | jme | sure |
| 20:00.12 | break19 | whee |
| 20:00.15 | [dRaCo] | you'll get your t4 helm the moment you finished enchanting your goggles. murphy. |
| 20:00.21 | jme | yep |
| 20:00.31 | jme | wait.. helm enchants? |
| 20:00.35 | [dRaCo] | sure. |
| 20:00.37 | break19 | of course |
| 20:00.47 | [dRaCo] | you'll prolly want the CE one |
| 20:00.50 | [dRaCo] | ap and hit |
| 20:00.54 | break19 | rep reward enchants\ |
| 20:00.59 | jme | oh that |
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| 20:02.10 | kergoth | mjc_, got my git based addon set nearly 100% functionality & workflow wise :D just need to write like 3 or 4 more shell srcripts / commands for git-submodule to make it easier |
| 20:02.54 | jme | Equip: Slightly increases your stealth detection. |
| 20:02.56 | jme | yum |
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| 20:03.24 | [dRaCo] | useless until you're planning on starting an arena team |
| 20:03.32 | [dRaCo] | and then belf is the worst choice ever ;) |
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| 20:12.03 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight 07ckknight * r45440 10Joker/LibJokerModuleCore-1.0/LibJokerModuleCore-1.0.lua: LibJokerModuleCore-1.0 - cache globals, fix typo |
| 20:14.20 | kaiden | ckknight, do you have a separate wish list page for cowtip? i would love to see modifier keys to show tooltips or not... so sick of seeing them everytime i mouseover a mob, would love to be able to hold alt to see tooltips or have it hide them otherwise |
| 20:14.42 | ckknight | CowTip has a wishlist page |
| 20:14.43 | ckknight | on the wiki |
| 20:15.09 | kaiden | there we go ;) |
| 20:18.38 | Silviu- | ckknight are u in game ? ;p |
| 20:18.45 | ckknight | no |
| 20:18.48 | Silviu- | :( |
| 20:18.54 | ckknight | why? |
| 20:19.02 | Silviu- | to fix that Cowtip thing ;) |
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| 20:21.40 | kergoth | Cryect, ping |
| 20:22.14 | kaiden | ckknight, there added it to the wish list ;) |
| 20:24.16 | CIA-22 | 03cryect * r45441 10Recount/ (Recount.toc Tracker.lua): Recount - Hopefully a fix to a few of the errors |
| 20:24.20 | Cryect | kergoth, pong |
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| 20:25.20 | kergoth | Cryect, seeing something odd with an interaction with the "dash" addon (it reparents frames to make them visible only when you hit a key to pull up the dashboard). i added Recount_MainWindow to it, it reparents it.. when i reloadui the recount frame starts off hidden, though it was shown before hte reload, have to /recount show. when its not in the dash, shown persists |
| 20:25.27 | kergoth | just a bit odd |
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| 20:26.41 | Cryect | will have to check out dash then not sure |
| 20:27.00 | Cryect | is it on wowace? |
| 20:27.00 | CIA-22 | 03athou * r45442 10FuBar_RaidBuffFu/FuBar_RaidBuffFu.lua: |
| 20:27.00 | CIA-22 | FuBar_RaidBuffFu: |
| 20:27.00 | CIA-22 | - tweaking shift+click raid announces |
| 20:27.02 | Cryect | or somewhere else? |
| 20:27.26 | kergoth | http://wow-kyahx.googlecode.com/svn/trunk/Dash |
| 20:27.34 | kergoth | its on wowi too iirc |
| 20:27.52 | Josh_Borke | not EVERYTHING is on wowace :-P |
| 20:27.54 | Kyahx | svn version might be unstable :P |
| 20:28.22 | Cryect | yeah I figured not everything is wowace hence I was asking :-p |
| 20:28.31 | Josh_Borke | Cryect: make recount LoD'able |
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| 20:29.33 | [dRaCo] | cryect: does disabling recount work now? |
| 20:29.38 | Cryect | It should |
| 20:29.50 | Cryect | as far as I know it disables everything that needs disabling |
| 20:29.58 | Cryect | heh was amused to hear it was syncing still at first |
| 20:30.03 | break19 | speaking of dmg meters... I want violation to disable in a BG.. :p |
| 20:30.20 | kergoth | Kyahx, i'm running svn prior to "Lots of crap" and "Hey lookie, profile commands". that version workin? :) |
| 20:30.44 | Kyahx | probley |
| 20:30.50 | Kyahx | you can always revert :P |
| 20:31.08 | jme | Cryect: are you ingame? |
| 20:31.31 | Cryect | jme: yes, off to farm lichen |
| 20:31.42 | jme | Cryect: know how much khorium is going for? |
| 20:31.44 | jme | the ore |
| 20:32.13 | jme | well, i guess it could be totally different horde side.. dangit |
| 20:33.29 | kebinusan | hmm wow dash looks kinda neat |
| 20:33.34 | Cryect | no idea |
| 20:34.53 | kergoth | indeed it is, i shove all the stuff i dont use all the time into the dash |
| 20:35.45 | Fisker | btw |
| 20:35.50 | Fisker | who fagged up google? |
| 20:36.01 | NightHawkAtWork | You? |
| 20:36.10 | Fisker | each time i want to use the translater it wants me to put in a security code |
| 20:36.20 | Fisker | and most of the times it just flat out denies the translation and says i'm a bot :( |
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| 20:36.54 | Arrowmaster | lol |
| 20:36.54 | kergoth | you arent a bot? |
| 20:37.05 | Cryect | fisker definately is a bot |
| 20:37.17 | deltron | agreed |
| 20:37.28 | Fisker | :( |
| 20:37.51 | Fisker | for how long can this continue though? |
| 20:38.07 | Fisker | "It's not northrend It's not northrend It's not northrend It's not northrend It's not northrend It's not northrend It's not northrend It's not northrend It's not northrend It's not northrend It's not northrend It's not northrend It's not northrend It's not northrend It's not northrend It's not northrend It's not northrend It's not northrend It's not northrend It's not northrend It's not northrend It's not northrend It's not nort |
| 20:38.23 | Necrathex | :o why not |
| 20:38.33 | jme | because Fisker says it's not obviously |
| 20:38.35 | Fisker | Just because the german rating board started rating the game convention demo doesn't mean it'll actually be released! |
| 20:38.36 | weab | of course it is |
| 20:38.54 | Fisker | Blizzard made up the game for the lulz |
| 20:39.19 | Necrathex | nah, blizz is too busy with diablo3 ^_^ |
| 20:39.29 | weab | amen! |
| 20:39.29 | Fisker | indeed |
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| 20:40.39 | break19 | more sc2 |
| 20:42.05 | weab | there has been speculation starcraft and warcraft are the same universe. perhaps the next expension will be wow:zergling rush |
| 20:42.29 | Tornhoof | no starcraft: invasion of the nekkid elves |
| 20:42.30 | Arrowmaster | grr i keep getting 'disconnected from server' while trying to load |
| 20:42.42 | durcyn | makes about as much sense as eredar in spaceships |
| 20:42.49 | deltron | space |
| 20:42.51 | deltron | goats |
| 20:42.52 | break19 | make it a wow expansion pack |
| 20:43.00 | Chompers | thanks to FOX i know that Fisker is a dangerious hacker |
| 20:43.13 | jme | Fisker is anonymous! |
| 20:43.14 | Chompers | he 'does it for the lulz', get out you domestic terrorist! |
| 20:43.26 | jme | lol |
| 20:43.53 | Fisker | you can't stop me |
| 20:43.58 | break19 | I can |
| 20:44.02 | Fisker | do you have a dog? |
| 20:44.05 | break19 | they call me anti-anon |
| 20:44.13 | Industrial | give those poor boys a break |
| 20:44.18 | Industrial | its just a subculture |
| 20:44.21 | deltron | lol |
| 20:44.22 | break19 | or, maybe its auntie anon.. one of those.. its what they call me |
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| 20:44.29 | deltron | /b/ is dead |
| 20:44.32 | deltron | long live /b/ |
| 20:45.00 | Saladin | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:45.01 | Industrial | its their way of feeling they matter |
| 20:45.03 | Saladin | LOL WUT |
| 20:45.38 | Industrial | back to anime wheeee |
| 20:45.40 | Industrial | bbl |
| 20:46.24 | Saladin | >< |
| 20:48.22 | Chompers | Industrial: what you watching? |
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| 20:52.27 | kebinusan | Someone other than me should add a sticky option to sinklib |
| 20:53.54 | kebinusan | Also I cant seem to select a msbt scroll area for Witchhunt |
| 20:55.01 | kebinusan | ah there we go apparently you need to set it to msbt then off then back again for sink to recogize it or something |
| 20:55.26 | Jaxon | Are OSX aliases hard links or symbolic links? |
| 20:55.35 | jme | symbolic |
| 20:55.48 | Jaxon | Blast. |
| 20:55.50 | jme | well, if ou use ln -s |
| 20:55.54 | jme | s/ou/you |
| 20:56.23 | jme | ln makes hard links by default, symbolic with the -s option |
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| 20:56.58 | Elkano | wow... guildmate was pieced through his leg by a stone when riding his bike @ 370km/h as he said... :/ |
| 20:57.06 | Amadeo | ouch |
| 20:57.06 | Jaxon | Yes, it does. But I'm trying to figure out an elegant way to maintain te SkinMe directory in Skinner through updates of the addon through JWoWUpdater |
| 20:57.52 | Amadeo | I turned on Raid Configuration mode in PitBull today, and was crit for 10,000 by Wall of Frames and died |
| 20:58.23 | jme | well, aliases in finder are just flat files.. an alias to the directory "temp" becomes an empty file named "temp alias" |
| 20:58.23 | Guillotine | anybody know where theres documentation for Metrognome? Can't find it :/ Even looked in the wayback machine to see if it was lost in the big kaboom |
| 20:58.23 | Xuerian | What's tinytip's repository again? >_. |
| 20:58.23 | Xuerian | >_>* |
| 20:58.24 | kebinusan | ~tinytip |
| 20:58.26 | Jaxon | Xuerian: Thrae's googlecode, I don't think I have the URL handy |
| 20:58.35 | kebinusan | was worth a shot |
| 20:58.45 | Amadeo | Xuerian: hax0r CowTip more! |
| 20:58.46 | Xuerian | lol. Jaxon: Yeah, that's what i thought, neither do I |
| 20:58.57 | Xuerian | Amadeo: I'm tempted to, but tinytip is ol' faithful :p |
| 20:59.28 | Amadeo | I know it, hehe |
| 21:00.21 | Amadeo | I found this |
| 21:00.25 | Amadeo | http://code.google.com/p/thrae-wow/ |
| 21:00.27 | Amadeo | on Mr. Google |
| 21:00.42 | Xuerian | google is mean. |
| 21:01.39 | Amadeo | Who else has really customized CowTip? |
| 21:01.43 | Jaxon | As much as I like this operating system, it just seems I can't get away from bash to do some of the finer things. |
| 21:02.05 | durcyn | bash is all the fineness you need, heretic. |
| 21:02.53 | Jaxon | durcyn: Oh, I know it is, but I'm trying to make the most out of the environment I've got available to me. |
| 21:03.09 | ckknight | Amadeo: I know Antiarc has |
| 21:03.16 | Amadeo | Yeah, I like his setup |
| 21:03.19 | Amadeo | I'm using that now |
| 21:03.25 | Amadeo | Just curious if anyone else has some nice stuff :) |
| 21:03.33 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight 07ckknight * r45443 10Joker/LibJokerHook-1.0/ (. LibJokerHook-1.0.lua LibJokerHook-1.0.toc): LibJokerHook-1.0 - initial import. Very similar to AceHook-2.1, but with renamed methods and I took out the `true` thing for hooking secure methods. |
| 21:03.59 | Kalman| | !ar 441 |
| 21:04.00 | ThraeBot | Kalman|: Arena rating from 441 points is, 2v2: 1705, 3v3: 1646, 5v5: 1558 |
| 21:04.16 | Chompers | Amadeo: http://homepage.ntlworld.com/jonreid/wow/cowtip.png |
| 21:04.19 | Chompers | a few i tried to make |
| 21:04.22 | Antiarc|Work | !ar 5000 |
| 21:04.22 | ThraeBot | Antiarc|Work: Points given is above the threshold for conversion. Try a different number. Or perhaps you meant to convert ratings to points? Either way, you fail at life. |
| 21:04.25 | Antiarc|Work | Boo. |
| 21:04.26 | Chompers | just spend a few hours making one |
| 21:04.33 | Amadeo | Nice |
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| 21:04.46 | jme | what is the top arena rating? |
| 21:04.46 | *** mode/#wowace [+o ckknight] by ChanServ |
| 21:04.52 | Antiarc|Work | !ar 2400 |
| 21:04.52 | ThraeBot | Antiarc|Work: Points given is above the threshold for conversion. Try a different number. Or perhaps you meant to convert ratings to points? Either way, you fail at life. |
| 21:04.55 | Amadeo | Chompers: I like to let other people spend a few hours making them, and then I profit from their creative genius |
| 21:04.55 | Antiarc|Work | !ar 2200 |
| 21:04.55 | ThraeBot | Antiarc|Work: Points given is above the threshold for conversion. Try a different number. Or perhaps you meant to convert ratings to points? Either way, you fail at life. |
| 21:04.57 | Saint-N | http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0401760/ |
| 21:05.04 | jme | !ar 2150 |
| 21:05.04 | ThraeBot | jme: Points given is above the threshold for conversion. Try a different number. Or perhaps you meant to convert ratings to points? Either way, you fail at life. |
| 21:05.09 | Antiarc|Work | !ar 1500 |
| 21:05.09 | ThraeBot | Sorry Antiarc|Work, you must wait 2 seconds before making another request. |
| 21:05.11 | Antiarc|Work | :( |
| 21:05.13 | Gnarfoz | there's a limit? |
| 21:05.14 | jme | !ap 2100 |
| 21:05.14 | ThraeBot | jme: Arena points from a rating of 2100 is, 2v2: 783, 3v3: 895, 5v5: 1119 |
| 21:05.15 | Jaxon | Antiarc: I bet it works if you /msg it too |
| 21:05.16 | jme | oh |
| 21:05.22 | jme | !ap 3000 |
| 21:05.23 | ThraeBot | jme: Arena points from a rating of 3000 is, 2v2: 990, 3v3: 1131, 5v5: 1414 |
| 21:05.24 | Kalman| | Yeah, it goes asymptotic at a certain point. |
| 21:05.35 | Gnarfoz | oh |
| 21:05.36 | Saint-N | !ar 1 |
| 21:05.37 | ThraeBot | Saint-N: Arena rating from 1 points is, 2v2: 514, 3v3: 514, 5v5: 513 |
| 21:05.38 | Kalman| | At least, I think it does. |
| 21:05.52 | Gnarfoz | one way to find out |
| 21:06.22 | Antiarc|Work | 1426 is the max. |
| 21:06.27 | Saint-N | !ap 1 |
| 21:06.27 | ThraeBot | Saint-N: Rating given is above the threshold for conversion. Try a different number. Or perhaps you meant to convert points to ratings? Either way, you fail at life. |
| 21:06.31 | Antiarc|Work | points = 1426.79 / (1 + 918.836 * math.exp(-0.00386405 * rating)) |
| 21:06.41 | jme | 1426 points per week? |
| 21:06.43 | Antiarc|Work | Yes |
| 21:06.46 | jme | gotcha |
| 21:07.32 | Gnarfoz | !ap 1426 |
| 21:07.32 | ThraeBot | Gnarfoz: Arena points from a rating of 1426 is, 2v2: 243, 3v3: 278, 5v5: 347 |
| 21:07.39 | Gnarfoz | ah darn it ^^ |
| 21:07.45 | jme | !ar 1426 |
| 21:07.46 | ThraeBot | jme: Arena rating from 1426 points is, 2v2: 0, 3v3: 0, 5v5: 3706 |
| 21:07.51 | jme | 0? |
| 21:07.55 | Gnarfoz | yeah |
| 21:07.59 | Gnarfoz | can't reach that in 3v3 and 2v2 |
| 21:08.04 | jme | oh. right |
| 21:08.11 | Gnarfoz | they've got 80% and 70% of 5v5 |
| 21:08.23 | jme | so basically the top arena teams are seeing a piece of gear every 2 weeks or so |
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| 21:08.42 | Amadeo | ouch, slow gear |
| 21:09.10 | CIA-22 | 03jncl * r45444 10Skinner/ (AddonFrames.lua AddonSkins/ItemRack.lua Skinner.lua): Skinner: Updated ItemRack skin for version 2.1 |
| 21:09.14 | Amadeo | better than nothing I guess |
| 21:09.19 | Amadeo | you could just be in greens forever! |
| 21:09.28 | jme | yeah, shoulders are 1500, everything else is 1875 |
| 21:09.36 | jme | sorry, gloves are 1125 |
| 21:09.55 | Chompers | most of my pve gear is arena gear |
| 21:10.05 | Chompers | cant find anything decent to wear in karazhan |
| 21:10.16 | rubik | there's some good druid gear i was thinking about getting.. pvp rewards, i mean |
| 21:10.18 | jme | plenty of hunter loot in kara, just can't ever get it to drop |
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| 21:10.43 | Jaxon | By plenty, you mean minimal, right? |
| 21:10.49 | jme | :/ |
| 21:10.55 | rubik | feral druids do ok in arena these days or not really? |
| 21:11.00 | jme | as a hunter i could be in full epics just from kara gear, is what i mean |
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| 21:11.09 | Jaxon | They wouldn't be GOOD epics though :\ |
| 21:11.14 | jme | not really, no |
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| 21:12.07 | Jaxon | Gloves off Maiden/Curator, Neck/Cape off Aran, Pants of Netherspite, 2h off Oz Event, Hat off Prince, Ring off Curator/Prince/Rep, Ranged off Attumen/Wolf/Prince, boots off Chess/Nightbane |
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| 21:12.23 | Jaxon | The belt off Illhoof sucks worse than most blues. |
| 21:12.38 | jme | Jaxon: i got the belt, replaced a felstalker belt |
| 21:12.50 | jme | Jaxon: i got the neck off attumen and the BBW gun |
| 21:12.59 | Jaxon | Ebon Netherscale belt. Overpowered BoP crafting gear is going to last me until tier 5. |
| 21:13.17 | jme | hah.. i dropped LW for mining and JC a while back |
| 21:13.22 | [h]kurap1ka | hi there, could anyone please tell me if grid has a demo mode :( because i'm unable to find a possibility to show a full grid frame just 4 configuration issues |
| 21:13.27 | jme | shoulda kept LW and just levelled mining |
| 21:13.51 | Jaxon | !fc us Deathwing Jaxon |
| 21:13.52 | ThraeBot | Jaxon: Jaxon, Level 70 Hunter (41/20/0). 9127 HP; 6598 Mana; 330 Agi; 5583 Armor; 1629 AP; 1568 RAP. |
| 21:14.04 | jme | 330 agi? :X |
| 21:14.11 | Jaxon | Yeah, I know. |
| 21:14.22 | jme | !fc us stormreaver kadrahil |
| 21:14.23 | ThraeBot | jme: Kadrahil, Level 70 Hunter (41/20/0). 8345 HP; 6313 Mana; 533 Agi; 5039 Armor; 88 mp5; 16.87% dodge; 1344 AP; 1293 RAP. |
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| 21:15.01 | Jaxon | Dodge but no ranged crit. |
| 21:15.09 | jme | yeah, why didn't it post that |
| 21:15.13 | jme | 21.1% ranged crit |
| 21:15.25 | Jaxon | Just under 25 for me. |
| 21:15.41 | Jaxon | I need to resocket most all of my gear but I've been to lazy to get gold to do it, only been playing to raid lately. |
| 21:16.03 | jme | yeah same. i've been slacking on farming for a few weeks |
| 21:16.44 | Mudkipz | just do dailies |
| 21:16.48 | Jaxon | Too lazy. |
| 21:16.58 | Chompers | !fc eu Kul Tiras Moosefish |
| 21:16.58 | ThraeBot | Chompers: that is not the character you're looking for! |
| 21:17.11 | jme | i really need to start doing dailies, hah |
| 21:17.25 | Mudkipz | I'm flying down to shadowmoon to do netherwing dailies right now |
| 21:17.36 | jme | i'm sitting at my desk at work right now |
| 21:17.47 | Mudkipz | even though my goal to get revered is gone now |
| 21:18.03 | CIA-22 | 03cryect * r45445 10Recount/ (Recount.lua Tracker.lua): Recount - Disables Heal Buff tracking till I figure out a major bug |
| 21:18.05 | Mudkipz | since I completed the furies deck but I'll have to wait until next week to turn it in |
| 21:18.26 | jme | well.. i don't even have epic training yet, so i can't even start the netherwing dailies |
| 21:18.50 | Mudkipz | you mean flying mount training? |
| 21:18.54 | jme | yeah |
| 21:19.02 | Mudkipz | wow that's bad |
| 21:19.05 | ccKep | Mudkipz: darkmoon faire in front of shattrath right now (or atleast tomorrow, on EU servers) |
| 21:19.07 | jme | i'm about 5k short |
| 21:19.07 | Jaxon | My agility problem can be solved by switching out gear, but I'd be losing some RAP to do it and 1550ish is already low enough. |
| 21:19.26 | Mudkipz | ccKep you lie |
| 21:19.27 | *** join/#wowace pub^ (n=pub@cdubray.csbnet.se) |
| 21:19.30 | ccKep | I dont |
| 21:19.33 | Mudkipz | in shattrah? |
| 21:19.37 | ccKep | in front of it |
| 21:19.38 | Antiarc|Work | I made about 3.5k in a week farming Mech chests for lewtz and LBRS for shards. |
| 21:19.39 | ccKep | due to blizzcon |
| 21:19.43 | Mudkipz | I thought it was only on TB and SW |
| 21:19.43 | Antiarc|Work | yay epic mount |
| 21:19.44 | ccKep | L70ETC is there too |
| 21:19.47 | jme | Antiarc|Work: yeah but you're a rogue |
| 21:20.03 | ccKep | they're currently setting up on EU servers |
| 21:20.04 | Antiarc|Work | Hey, I have to be good at -something- |
| 21:20.06 | Chompers | netherwing grind made me 2k |
| 21:20.07 | Mudkipz | Okay I'm going back to shatrah right now |
| 21:20.08 | Chompers | fun too |
| 21:20.34 | jme | i failed completely at getting rich in the outlands |
| 21:20.35 | Chompers | and the awesome mount at the end |
| 21:20.49 | Jaxon | jme: if you can borrow gold, you get a ton of gold from the NW dailies, quicker than the Ogri'la and Skettis ones. |
| 21:21.00 | Mudkipz | I came into outlands with 300g |
| 21:21.08 | Mudkipz | turned 70 with 2000g+ |
| 21:21.11 | jme | Jaxon: i'm having a problem finding someone rich enough and willing to loan me that much though |
| 21:21.15 | Mudkipz | then farmed the rest in netherstorm / instances |
| 21:22.07 | Dustwhisper| | i borrowed 3k gold of a guildy |
| 21:22.09 | Dustwhisper| | repaid him |
| 21:22.11 | Dustwhisper| | borrowed another 5k |
| 21:22.12 | Dustwhisper| | =D |
| 21:22.32 | Amadeo | I'm gonna make a PTR Mage to PvP around with, how should I spec her? :P |
| 21:23.09 | kaiden | 2 minute spec |
| 21:23.17 | kaiden | aka pom pyro |
| 21:23.18 | kaiden | :P |
| 21:23.26 | Amadeo | I thought it was 3 minutes |
| 21:23.56 | Mudkipz | crap |
| 21:24.03 | Mudkipz | they fair is still being built |
| 21:24.06 | Mudkipz | the* |
| 21:24.13 | ccKep | [23:20:02] <ccKep> they're currently setting up on EU servers |
| 21:24.15 | ccKep | ;) |
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| 21:24.43 | Mudkipz | I'm on US |
| 21:25.11 | ccKep | hmhmhm |
| 21:25.21 | ccKep | thought they're ready there |
| 21:27.29 | Saint-N | nw dailies? |
| 21:27.39 | kaiden | netherwing |
| 21:27.42 | Saint-N | oh |
| 21:27.50 | Saint-N | the dragons in shat dont like me or something |
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| 21:30.40 | Kaelten | svn is going down in 10 mins |
| 21:30.45 | Kaelten | make yer commits if you got em |
| 21:31.16 | Amadeo | is WAU working? |
| 21:31.27 | Silviu- | Amadeo http://img515.imageshack.us/my.php?image=wowscrnshot073007194857sr1.jpg |
| 21:31.35 | Ominous | kaelten: how come? |
| 21:31.48 | Amadeo | Silviu-: your cowtip? |
| 21:31.52 | Silviu- | yes |
| 21:32.00 | Amadeo | looks good :) |
| 21:32.06 | Silviu- | thx |
| 21:32.39 | Mudkipz | did imageshack change ownership or something? |
| 21:32.49 | Mudkipz | I get yahoo tabs when i upload now |
| 21:32.58 | Amadeo | I've never liked imageshack |
| 21:34.05 | Chompers | i want to be in TK right now |
| 21:34.09 | Chompers | damn you Silviu- |
| 21:34.25 | Silviu- | Chompers ;( |
| 21:34.33 | Silviu- | We did not kill Kael this id :( |
| 21:34.40 | Silviu- | Hope next week :( |
| 21:34.49 | Silviu- | 48% best try bah :( |
| 21:34.50 | Chompers | we went once, got VR to about 70% |
| 21:34.52 | Chompers | i think |
| 21:35.04 | jme | kek |
| 21:35.45 | cncfanatics | meh, be happy ur at kael |
| 21:35.46 | Mudkipz | ya Kael is one of those fights that require perfection |
| 21:35.55 | cncfanatics | I'm at damn gruul :( 30% on the bitch |
| 21:35.55 | Kaelten | am not |
| 21:35.56 | Mudkipz | 1 screwup and it's all over |
| 21:35.58 | cncfanatics | the hardest 30 |
| 21:36.07 | Dustwhisper| | last night vashj at 6% |
| 21:36.12 | Dustwhisper| | tonight after 8 attempts not even past phase 2 |
| 21:36.14 | Dustwhisper| | burn in hell |
| 21:36.19 | Mudkipz | Archimonde is like him but just more volatile |
| 21:36.21 | Silviu- | Dustwhisper| p3 is easy |
| 21:36.22 | FrostByghte | just a heads up, the screenshots here http://www.wowace.com/wiki/Baggins do not seem to have larger versions avail, even though there are enlargement buttons next to them |
| 21:36.24 | Silviu- | compared to 2 |
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| 21:36.47 | Chompers | exalted with nw,Ogri'la and skywing due to lack of raids |
| 21:36.52 | Chompers | i neeeeed raids |
| 21:36.54 | Dustwhisper| | YEA Silviu |
| 21:36.55 | jme | cncfanatics: we're attempting HKM this weekend |
| 21:37.00 | Dustwhisper| | we'd have him last night |
| 21:37.03 | jme | wtb a one shot |
| 21:37.05 | Dustwhisper| | if dps on sporebats were better |
| 21:37.07 | cncfanatics | jme, if the pull is good he dies |
| 21:37.09 | Dustwhisper| | at 6% he went enrage |
| 21:37.12 | Dustwhisper| | and spawned a gazillion bats |
| 21:37.17 | Silviu- | ;)) |
| 21:37.21 | Chompers | can you kill nightbane jme? |
| 21:37.22 | Mudkipz | orenjii? |
| 21:37.23 | jme | cncfanatics: i've been reading as much as i can about it |
| 21:37.26 | jme | Chompers: yeah |
| 21:37.36 | jme | Chompers: i haven't been there for any kills yet, but our core raid has |
| 21:37.39 | Chompers | then you can do hkm |
| 21:37.40 | Silviu- | Kael have 5 phases ;( |
| 21:37.46 | jme | cool |
| 21:37.47 | durcyn | god, mudkipz, don't talk to me about arhchimonde |
| 21:37.49 | Silviu- | He is nasty ! |
| 21:37.52 | durcyn | i had nightmares about doomfire |
| 21:38.05 | Mudkipz | lol |
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| 21:38.19 | Mudkipz | I don't like the fight at all |
| 21:38.23 | durcyn | "what the fuck do you mean you got gripped while air bursted?" |
| 21:38.34 | Mudkipz | Devs lied again |
| 21:38.40 | ccKep | our kael raid today was a kick in the nuts... |
| 21:38.44 | ccKep | managed ONE try |
| 21:38.44 | Mudkipz | "no more high end instances that fear" |
| 21:38.56 | ccKep | and that try ended at capernian phase1, lawlz |
| 21:39.02 | durcyn | the fear wouldn't be so bad if it was on a static timer |
| 21:39.15 | Mudkipz | it has a 1 second cast time right? |
| 21:39.18 | Mudkipz | yay fear ward |
| 21:39.20 | durcyn | or if the doomfire didn't wander over to say hi |
| 21:39.27 | durcyn | yeah, good luck stance dancing |
| 21:39.29 | Mudkipz | too bad we're horde so we gotta stack shammies |
| 21:39.53 | durcyn | mt has to basically play with himself for however long arch takes to cast it again |
| 21:40.29 | durcyn | and just when that's worked out, some wanker dies and you get a silence soul charge, then some other wanker dies... |
| 21:40.46 | Mudkipz | and then you get those mages that don't realize to decurse themselves |
| 21:40.50 | Mudkipz | pewpewfireballs |
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| 21:41.49 | durcyn | we just started linking decurse meters after every wipe |
| 21:42.03 | durcyn | by the end of the night the druids were close to 200, none of the mages broke three digits |
| 21:42.16 | Mudkipz | haha |
| 21:42.37 | Mudkipz | o jeez |
| 21:43.00 | Mudkipz | I wish dj mixes alway came with a tracklist... there is this sick tune I want an ID on right now! |
| 21:43.06 | Mudkipz | always* |
| 21:43.45 | Jaxon | Ugh, now I remembered why I didn't want to delete all my addons and savedvariables and rebuild a UI from scratch. |
| 21:43.48 | Jaxon | Bagmods. |
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| 21:44.01 | jme | i used to do that like 2 or 3 times a week |
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| 21:44.12 | Funkeh` | hi all |
| 21:44.14 | jme | i haven't changed it at all in a few weeks.. that got annoying |
| 21:45.28 | Jaxon | The Baggins setup I had was quite "complete." |
| 21:54.04 | Poul|Raider | the way the /combatlog works, or event general, if a mage shoot on a boss next to me. Are the event/log recorded from the boss(aka 5yard form me) or at the mages position 20yard away maybe |
| 21:58.09 | Amadeo | Is pricewatch.com still worth using, or are there better sites that do that stuff now? |
| 21:58.17 | cncfanatics | the event that the mage casts is triggered from the mage |
| 21:58.25 | cncfanatics | the event that the bolt hurts the boss is triggered from the boss |
| 21:58.53 | cncfanatics | I'm sure about the first one, unsure about the second but it sounds logical |
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| 22:01.01 | Poul|Raider | ye |
| 22:01.10 | Poul|Raider | also how i would asume it would work |
| 22:01.15 | Poul|Raider | but just not sure |
| 22:03.35 | Poul|Raider | aswell, know i asked it some days ago but dint see the answer, the options for /combatlog about range and such on it, when was they added ? back in the days it was not posible to change it? |
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| 22:04.57 | Arrowmaster | its been possible to change the combatlog range for a very long time |
| 22:05.07 | Guillotine | anybody know of a simple way to merge tables? (can't use a simple for loop as the tables have multiple levels and I need all those merged as well). Would like to avoid an ugly recursive function if possible |
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| 22:12.34 | pastamancer | Guillotine: you're not going to get a deep copy without a recursive function |
| 22:12.37 | ccKep | does anyone know how to make FuBar use 100% of the screen width again? |
| 22:12.56 | ccKep | changed UI scale to 1, back to 0.xx and now the fubar doesn't use 100% |
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| 22:13.26 | Guillotine | pastamancer: I know. was hoping there was already a library or someone's function to do it though :P |
| 22:13.57 | kergoth | you can, but you'd have to use a table as a "queue" of next tables to process, and insert/remove from that as you go.. ugly as well |
| 22:13.59 | kergoth | heh |
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| 22:17.43 | Jaxon | ccKep: you can drag the width, the cursor turns into a little sword when you mouse over the edge of the bar. |
| 22:18.51 | ccKep | WooT |
| 22:18.58 | ccKep | didn't know that |
| 22:18.59 | ccKep | thanks :D |
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| 22:19.34 | art3mis | fight tha powah, fight the powah, you've got to fight the powers that be |
| 22:20.01 | art3mis | elvis was a hero to most, elvis was a hero to most but he never meant shit to me |
| 22:24.05 | Jaxon | I don't keep most all of my abilities on visible bars and I need something to track skill cooldowns. |
| 22:25.08 | sb | mh |
| 22:25.22 | sb | bm hunter - all agility or attack power? |
| 22:25.33 | Chompers | could make a tiny bar with all your timed abilities on it, for show |
| 22:25.45 | Arrowmaster | hourglass |
| 22:25.59 | Jaxon | sb: Agility for most specs. You need to maintain a high crit rate (especially for BM). |
| 22:26.06 | sb | mhm |
| 22:26.16 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight 07ckknight * r45447 10Joker/LibJokerHook-1.0/LibJokerHook-1.0.lua: LibJokerHook-1.0 - fake commit |
| 22:26.18 | sb | Jaxon: every hunter i've seen so far went for all attack power... |
| 22:26.24 | sb | and ~20% crit |
| 22:26.45 | Jaxon | sb: I did that and it was a mistake. I regretted it and now I'm short on agility. |
| 22:26.50 | Jaxon | Arrowmaster: hourglass does annoying things like keep track of all similar abilities independantly and doesn't keep track of items. |
| 22:27.05 | Arrowmaster | you can customize it |
| 22:27.20 | CIA-22 | 03mitchell 07Moo * r45448 10RangeCheck-1.0/RangeCheck-1.0/RangeCheck-1.0.lua: RangeCheck-1.0: added some debug functions |
| 22:27.31 | ccKep | http://armory.wow-europe.com/#character-sheet.xml?r=Blackhand&n=Damo <<< BM guildmate, dunno if that helps for reference |
| 22:27.33 | Jaxon | Oh? Last time I looked at it, it was just a straight rewrite of oCD with the only option behind "Show/Hide Anchor" |
| 22:27.49 | Arrowmaster | check the forum thread |
| 22:28.02 | mitch1 | hm: Warning: 'post-commit' hook failed with error output: |
| 22:28.02 | mitch1 | /var/repos/post-commit.d/post-commit: 10: cannot create /var/autodoc/files_to_pa |
| 22:28.02 | mitch1 | rse: Permission denied |
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| 22:34.58 | Coruss | sb: my guild leader runs a BM hunter, good dps too http://armory.worldofwarcraft.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Silver+Hand&n=Fuuzy |
| 22:35.51 | Dustwhisper| | honestly |
| 22:35.57 | Dustwhisper| | fork lightning on vashj is the dumbest thing ever |
| 22:36.08 | Chompers | why? |
| 22:36.31 | Dustwhisper| | in the beginning of phase 2 |
| 22:36.32 | ccKep | naga spawning in front of you while you cast a lesser healing wave that crits is the dumbest thing ever |
| 22:36.37 | Dustwhisper| | i got hit with fork lightning for over 50k dmg |
| 22:36.40 | Dustwhisper| | and that was me alone |
| 22:36.47 | Dustwhisper| | 3 others were hit for over 35 |
| 22:36.49 | Dustwhisper| | at the same place |
| 22:37.02 | Dustwhisper| | like withing a minute |
| 22:37.05 | CIA-22 | 03mitchell * r45449 10RangeCheck-1.0/ (RangeCheck-1.0/RangeCheck-1.0.lua notes.txt): |
| 22:37.05 | CIA-22 | RangeCheck-1.0: Merged in Moo branch: |
| 22:37.05 | CIA-22 | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:37.05 | CIA-22 | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:37.05 | CIA-22 | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:37.06 | CIA-22 | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:37.10 | Dustwhisper| | well probably 2-3 |
| 22:39.56 | CIA-22 | 03mitchell * r45450 10RangeDisplay/RangeDisplay.lua: RangeDisplay: added commands to access RangeCheck-1.0 debug functions if RangeDisplay.db.profile.debug is set |
| 22:40.04 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight 07ckknight * r45451 10Joker/LibJokerHook-1.0/LibJokerHook-1.0.toc: LibJokerHook-1.0 - fake commit |
| 22:40.41 | art3mis | yay! the first futurama movie is due out Dev 2007 |
| 22:40.44 | art3mis | err dec |
| 22:40.59 | art3mis | and next year is movie 2 3 4 |
| 22:41.00 | Shirik | have movie authors seriously run out of ideas? |
| 22:41.06 | Shirik | I mean I like futurama and all, but seriously |
| 22:41.17 | art3mis | well |
| 22:41.18 | Shirik | All I ever see anymore is spider man, superman, the simpsons |
| 22:41.22 | Shirik | transformers |
| 22:41.30 | Jaxon | The Futurama "movies" are just miniseries. |
| 22:41.31 | art3mis | it originally started as "we have these show ideas but you clowns cancelled us |
| 22:41.38 | Shirik | lol |
| 22:41.46 | art3mis | so we'regonna make em into movies cuz they're too long to be single episodes |
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| 22:42.41 | art3mis | and according to matt it was "yeah well why dont we do 1 more movie" "only one? why not 2!" "why not 3!" "fine why dont we just do 4 of them,,,,there you happy?" |
| 22:42.49 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r45452 10Parrot/Parrot.toc: Parrot - fake commit |
| 22:42.49 | Shirik | lol |
| 22:43.03 | ckknight | can anyone think of something they would prefer to be different about AceLocale? |
| 22:43.04 | Shirik | ckknight: liar |
| 22:43.06 | art3mis | thats almost a direct quote isaw bout them |
| 22:43.22 | art3mis | either way its the full old cast |
| 22:43.35 | art3mis | and that makes me happy cuz that show was far too witty to not continue |
| 22:43.58 | Diao | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=712402231&sid=1 |
| 22:43.59 | Diao | lol |
| 22:45.23 | sb | spider pig, spider pig.... lalala |
| 22:45.24 | sb | :o |
| 22:46.06 | Necrathex | lmao! |
| 22:47.08 | art3mis | diao that rules! |
| 22:47.33 | art3mis | does what ever a spider pig does...can he swing from a web, no he can't cuz he's a pig, lookout he is the spider pig |
| 22:48.11 | Diao | lol |
| 22:48.40 | Funkeh` | ckknight 'fake commit' ? |
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| 22:48.47 | ckknight | Kaelten needed a commit |
| 22:49.16 | Kaelten | I'm testing commit hooks basically |
| 22:49.28 | Funkeh` | oh |
| 22:49.40 | Funkeh` | btw Kaelten will the irc requirement ever become a reality? |
| 22:49.46 | Kaelten | don't know |
| 22:49.48 | Kaelten | :) |
| 22:49.54 | Funkeh` | heh :p |
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| 22:50.14 | Lywellyn | ping clad|away |
| 22:50.24 | CIA-22 | 03cryect * r45000 10Recount/GUI_Detail.lua: |
| 22:50.24 | CIA-22 | Recount - Code for creating the summary report has been changed to use tables to specify the setup for readability |
| 22:50.24 | CIA-22 | - All summary fonts now can be swapped |
| 22:50.30 | Kaelten | ha I can fake it |
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| 22:50.51 | Mudkipz | someone is dc'ing me |
| 22:50.54 | Lywellyn | that's not quite what I expected to hear when I joined o_O lol |
| 22:51.07 | Lywellyn | lolz i herd you liek mudkipz. =D |
| 22:51.09 | Mudkipz | err somthing |
| 22:51.49 | CIA-22 | 03mist 07Mist * r45010 10Hourglass/Hourglass/core.lua: |
| 22:51.49 | CIA-22 | Hourglass (branch): |
| 22:51.49 | CIA-22 | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:52.32 | CIA-22 | 03kaelten * r44927 10cgProfiler/cgProfiler.toc: cgProfiler: Touching TOC file to update version number. |
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| 22:53.07 | Funkeh` | Cryect did you remove syncing from recount? |
| 22:53.28 | CIA-22 | 03kaelten * r44927 10cgProfiler/cgProfiler.toc: cgProfiler: Touching TOC file to update version number. |
| 22:53.57 | Lywellyn | Kaelten: When I had killed a boss...wish I remembered which one it was....I got this: [2007/07/30 22:36:44-157-x2]: cgProfiler-1.43652\raids\raids.lua:65: attempt to index field 'attempt' (a nil value) |
| 22:54.10 | Kaelten | Lywellyn: I in the newest version? |
| 22:55.16 | Lywellyn | I'm gonna say no, if the "file modified" date is any indication...I ran WAU after that happened. about three hours after. |
| 22:56.14 | CIA-22 | 03kaelten * r44927 10cgProfiler/cgProfiler.toc: cgProfiler: Touching TOC file to update version number. |
| 22:56.44 | Lywellyn | So how many times are we gonna see that same commit? |
| 22:56.51 | Kaelten | hrm maybe its not hitting it because the file hasn't really changed |
| 22:57.07 | Kaelten | you should be running version 1.44927 |
| 22:57.49 | Kaelten | can someone commit a real toc file? |
| 22:57.53 | Kaelten | instead of me trying to do this? |
| 22:59.10 | buchkurish | Amadeo: u there dude |
| 22:59.22 | buchkurish | Amadeo: haha, im at work and had some things to go take care of but i did say brb =) didnt i |
| 22:59.59 | CIA-22 | 03kaelten * r45453 10cgProfiler/cgProfiler.toc: cgProfiler: updated url in toc |
| 23:00.08 | Kaelten | fine did it me self :P |
| 23:00.21 | Kaelten | awesome it is working |
| 23:01.14 | Jaxon | Have the Bartender3 myBindings headers always been messed up? |
| 23:01.30 | loonacy | Jaxon: Have been as long as I can remember. |
| 23:02.10 | Kaelten | hrm how do I do a case insensitve compare in gawk |
| 23:02.28 | Kaelten | <PROTECTED> |
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| 23:03.08 | Gnarfoz | Kaelten: grats on getting it working! |
| 23:03.13 | Gnarfoz | what are you working on? :p |
| 23:03.21 | Jaxon | Another method, specific to `gawk', is to set the variable |
| 23:03.21 | Jaxon | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:03.21 | Jaxon | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:03.21 | Jaxon | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:03.21 | Jaxon | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:03.34 | Gngsk | they're not gonna be blockbuster movies |
| 23:03.46 | Gngsk | ...scrollbar ftl |
| 23:04.19 | NightHawkAtWork | Kaelten: tolower() ? |
| 23:04.27 | Kaelten | ya just found it on google |
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| 23:21.39 | Dustwhisper| | anyone have a nice screenshot of vashjs room without anything inn it ? |
| 23:21.40 | CIA-22 | 03mitchell * r45454 10RangeCheck-1.0/RangeCheck-1.0/RangeCheck-1.0.lua: RangeCheck-1.0: un-tweak follow range tweak as it didn't feel right in action |
| 23:23.07 | CIA-22 | 03mitchell * r45455 10RangeDisplay/RangeDisplay.lua: RangeDisplay: bump rcver |
| 23:23.14 | |Stan| | World of Warcraft: Wrath of the Lich King |
| 23:23.20 | |Stan| | it's official |
| 23:23.42 | Amadeo | wow, I suck at Mage |
| 23:24.31 | [dRaCo] | any eta? |
| 23:24.45 | Lywellyn | |Stan|: eh? |
| 23:24.55 | |Stan| | Lywellyn: the official name of the new addon |
| 23:25.05 | Lywellyn | What new addon? |
| 23:25.11 | |Stan| | wow -.- |
| 23:25.56 | |Stan| | it will be introduced on the 3rd of august |
| 23:26.00 | Kaelten | ok so elkbuffbars gets repackage for no reason. |
| 23:26.03 | |Stan| | on Blizzcon |
| 23:26.17 | |Stan| | the German Voluntary Monitoring Organisation of Entertainment Software tested the demo |
| 23:26.24 | Lywellyn | an addon, or an expansion? |
| 23:26.24 | |Stan| | and revealed the name |
| 23:26.27 | |Stan| | Expansion |
| 23:26.32 | |Stan| | like Burning Crusade |
| 23:26.33 | Lywellyn | See, now that makes more sense! |
| 23:26.37 | Kaelten | where did you hear that? |
| 23:26.42 | |Stan| | on the USK site |
| 23:26.47 | Lywellyn | you said the official name of the new addon....and I'm all, what new addon? o_O |
| 23:26.48 | |Stan| | http://usk.de/65_Aktuell_geprueft.htm |
| 23:26.59 | |Stan| | Lywellyn: sry^^ |
| 23:27.09 | Kaelten | er, I don't speak german |
| 23:27.10 | |Stan| | scroll down to World of Warcraft: Wrath of the Lich King (GC-Demo) |
| 23:27.34 | Gnarfoz | it being on the USK's page is pretty much proof |
| 23:27.35 | |Stan| | you don't need to speak german^^ |
| 23:27.43 | |Stan| | yeah |
| 23:27.56 | Lywellyn | Ah, they even classify it as an addon. wtf. |
| 23:28.17 | |Stan| | well in germany we use that for "Expansion" |
| 23:28.19 | Kaelten | what is usk? |
| 23:28.21 | [dRaCo] | no release date so far... hope it wont be too soon |
| 23:28.28 | Gnarfoz | it's like ESRB |
| 23:28.31 | |Stan| | Kaelten: German Voluntary Monitoring Organisation of Entertainment Software |
| 23:28.37 | Gnarfoz | it's not voluntary |
| 23:28.46 | |Stan| | Gnancy: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USK -.- |
| 23:28.50 | |Stan| | I just copy-pasted |
| 23:28.54 | Gnarfoz | you did |
| 23:28.58 | Gnarfoz | doesn't make it voluntary ^^ |
| 23:29.17 | |Stan| | Since the modification of the Jugendschutzgesetz (Youth Protection Law) in 2003, it is now compulsory for all titles that are to be sold to the wider public to carry a USK mark. |
| 23:29.19 | |Stan| | mm |
| 23:29.22 | |Stan| | there we have it |
| 23:29.24 | Gnarfoz | if you want to be allowed to sell media that fall under their jurisdiction to minors in Germany |
| 23:29.32 | Gnarfoz | you'll have to get that media rated by them |
| 23:29.38 | Gnarfoz | see? ^^ |
| 23:29.42 | |Stan| | yeah |
| 23:29.57 | Gnarfoz | I live here, too ^^ |
| 23:30.00 | Lywellyn | "wider public" lol |
| 23:30.14 | |Stan| | Gnancy: sag das doch^^ |
| 23:30.26 | Gnarfoz | no wai :> |
| 23:31.22 | Gnarfoz | Lywellyn: that could be read as "in stores where minors could buy it" ;) |
| 23:31.32 | Lywellyn | Yeah, I know, I just find it funny. :p |
| 23:31.40 | Antiarc|Work | Does anyone know if there's some black magic I could use to make an inline block element appear in front of an absolutely positioned element in HTML? |
| 23:31.41 | Kaelten | ok crontab setup for files again |
| 23:31.45 | Kaelten | lets see how it owrks out |
| 23:31.46 | Antiarc|Work | Or am I gonna have to make it absolute? |
| 23:31.52 | Gnarfoz | Antiarc: z-index? |
| 23:31.53 | Kaelten | I think the latter |
| 23:31.57 | |Stan| | z-index |
| 23:32.01 | Kaelten | hrm z-index may do the trick |
| 23:32.23 | Antiarc|Work | I'm pretty sure that z-index only applies to floating elements |
| 23:32.27 | Antiarc|Work | Not inlines |
| 23:32.31 | Antiarc|Work | Which is the problem here ;) |
| 23:32.35 | Kaelten | that is possible |
| 23:32.40 | Lywellyn | ~madness |
| 23:32.40 | purl | Madness? THIS IS SPARTAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
| 23:32.50 | Kaelten | I've only used z-index when creating the popup block for curse |
| 23:32.56 | Lywellyn | much as I've heard that phrase, I will have to see the movie. |
| 23:32.58 | Kaelten | those where floated though |
| 23:33.31 | |Stan| | Antiarc|Work: you can only use it on absolute elements |
| 23:33.37 | Antiarc|Work | |Stan|: Thought as much. Thanks. |
| 23:33.56 | Antiarc|Work | You know, there are many times I wish I could merge WoW's layout model and HTML's CSS. |
| 23:33.56 | |Stan| | np |
| 23:34.11 | Lywellyn | ah, CSS. |
| 23:34.15 | Antiarc|Work | Because styling WoW frames with CSS would own hardcore. |
| 23:34.29 | |Stan| | yeah that would be awesome |
| 23:36.15 | art3mis | that would kind of creep my out |
| 23:36.18 | art3mis | me |
| 23:36.29 | art3mis | it would be easy and awesome but still..... |
| 23:36.41 | NightHawkAtWork | that would be totally awesome. |
| 23:37.06 | NightHawkAtWork | but you'd still have shittastic input forms, cause css still kinda blows for that :) |
| 23:37.35 | |Stan| | mm |
| 23:37.48 | |Stan| | you can change everything on the inputform |
| 23:37.53 | |Stan| | size, border, colors... |
| 23:38.01 | Antiarc|Work | Not really, NightHawkTheSane |
| 23:38.06 | Antiarc|Work | The issue is flow vs absolute layout. |
| 23:38.17 | NightHawkAtWork | Antiarc|Work: true |
| 23:38.18 | Antiarc|Work | You'd want a modified CSS that lets you specify anchors |
| 23:38.25 | Antiarc|Work | Then you just bypass flow layout problems entirely. |
| 23:39.00 | |Stan| | need to get some sleep now. good night! |
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| 23:42.02 | Antiarc|Work | Ooh |
| 23:42.04 | Antiarc|Work | I did it |
| 23:42.19 | Antiarc|Work | z-index on the relative parent element, then a negative z-index on the absolute child |
| 23:42.57 | Antiarc|Work | That's -really- good to know. |
| 23:43.22 | NightHawkAtWork | that works? |
| 23:43.26 | Xuerian | How do I get rid of the class backdrop on the health bar in aloft..? >.>.. class coloring isn't checked |
| 23:43.34 | Antiarc|Work | "Elements that have negative 'z-index' values are stacked below their parent element and elements with positive 'z-index' values are stacked above their parent element. In other words, each 'absolute' or 'relative' positioned element defines a context for z-order in which their own 'z-index' is 0." |
| 23:43.57 | Antiarc|Work | So, you define a z-index for the parent, then a negative z-index for the child and the child, even though it's absolute, is rendered below the parnet |
| 23:44.00 | Antiarc|Work | at least in Firefox |
| 23:44.04 | Antiarc|Work | Need to test IE/Safari |
| 23:44.22 | NightHawkAtWork | huh, interesting |
| 23:44.32 | Antiarc|Work | Perfect in Safari. |
| 23:44.36 | Antiarc|Work | Dear god this is a sexy effect. |
| 23:44.49 | art3mis | does it make it 3d? |
| 23:44.53 | Antiarc|Work | Sorta. |
| 23:45.03 | NightHawkAtWork | can we see it in action? :P |
| 23:45.11 | Antiarc|Work | It's behind password protection at the moment. |
| 23:45.15 | NightHawkAtWork | aww :P |
| 23:45.17 | art3mis | in an im wearing different coloured lens in cardboard glasses kind of "sorta"? |
| 23:46.14 | JoshBorke | what are you doing antiarc? |
| 23:46.53 | Antiarc|Work | JoshBorke: This particular effect is the flash-style floating-cursor bar menu, except it's 100% semantic CSS/JS |
| 23:47.40 | Gnarfoz | semantic and js in the same sentence weird me out :\ |
| 23:47.42 | JoshBorke | nifty, what's it for? |
| 23:47.58 | Gnarfoz | (still, better than flash, I'spose) |
| 23:48.11 | Gnarfoz | (s'pose? :D) |
| 23:48.17 | Antiarc|Work | Gnarfoz: The trick is to write semantic HTML, then hack it up to high hell with Javascript ;) |
| 23:48.22 | Antiarc|Work | Project I'm working on with my business partner. Sorta a one-off, portfolio builder thing. |
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| 23:48.33 | JoshBorke | cool :-) |
| 23:49.52 | art3mis | ya know what would be a neat project? |
| 23:49.57 | art3mis | a ui-profiler |
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| 23:50.24 | Gnarfoz | another one? |
| 23:50.28 | Antiarc|Work | Like Expo? |
| 23:50.42 | art3mis | that essentially reads the wtf settings for layouts and addons and stuff and stores them online so you can just direct someone to said site and blam they have a leachable ui thats already customized |
| 23:50.59 | art3mis | regardless of when and how you change your ui or addons |
| 23:51.47 | art3mis | so say i like antis ui he links me his "profile" i download it run the "installer" it gets my addons writes the wtf settings for me and poof instant mimic |
| 23:51.48 | Gnarfoz | I'd guess that would be hard to do, ingame |
| 23:52.01 | Antiarc|Work | It would be trivial to write a script to do it out of game though |
| 23:52.04 | Kyahx | why? Your just copying a table and then overriting a table |
| 23:52.14 | art3mis | that would be awesome |
| 23:52.26 | art3mis | and save me shitloads of time having to redo layouts on each machine ;P |
| 23:52.50 | Gnarfoz | you sure? not all addons are configured by the same means... you'd have to account for different resolutions, different character names, guild names, locales and whatnot |
| 23:52.51 | art3mis | not to mention as a partial "updater" using the py waa or wau |
| 23:53.05 | Kyahx | Gnarfoz: all addons settings are configured the exact same way |
| 23:53.05 | art3mis | that would make for a great project |
| 23:53.11 | Kyahx | a table |
| 23:53.13 | Kyahx | simple |
| 23:53.23 | Gnarfoz | Kyahx: they are *stored* that way. |
| 23:53.44 | Kyahx | which would be the exact same thing as copy/pasting a WTF folder, no? |
| 23:53.55 | Gnarfoz | yes, and that *doesn't* work :p |
| 23:54.08 | Kyahx | it does to an extent :) |
| 23:54.20 | Gnarfoz | which leads back to my previous statement. |
| 23:54.50 | art3mis | whats expo do anti? |
| 23:55.20 | Jaxon | I haven't had to fix this in forever, but now my client thinks I'm joined in a chat channel "/1" and any new channels get added as 2, 3, 4. |
| 23:55.28 | Gnarfoz | addon profiler in the sense of "performance analysis" and stuff |
| 23:56.00 | Gnarfoz | Jaxon: if all else fails: remove chat-cache.txt (or rather, move it away temporarily) |
| 23:56.42 | Jaxon | Gnarfoz: I'm trying to remember the fix that doesn't involve me losing all my chat window settings. :( |
| 23:56.43 | art3mis | gnar: oh |
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| 23:56.50 | Antiarc|Work | art3mis: It's a UI profiler |
| 23:56.52 | Kyahx | or /resetchat |
| 23:56.59 | Antiarc|Work | Code profiler |
| 23:57.01 | art3mis | anti: but not i the same wayi was talking |
| 23:57.05 | Antiarc|Work | No :) |
| 23:57.07 | art3mis | heh |
| 23:57.11 | art3mis | go make that for me |
| 23:57.16 | art3mis | and then make a site |
| 23:57.20 | art3mis | and get kael to host it ;P |
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| 23:57.31 | Gnarfoz | you make it, we'll cover the flaming and whining |
| 23:57.55 | art3mis | im more a manager type person |
| 23:57.57 | Antiarc|Work | And of course my technique bombs in IE. |
| 23:57.59 | Antiarc|Work | Thank you, IE. |
| 23:58.01 | Antiarc|Work | I love you too. |
| 23:58.04 | Antiarc|Work | *hammer to the face* |
| 23:58.05 | art3mis | heh |
| 23:58.10 | Kaelten | Antiarc|Work: 6 or 7? |
| 23:58.12 | Antiarc|Work | 7 |
| 23:58.18 | Antiarc|Work | But that's because IE's a whore. |
| 23:58.26 | art3mis | no its not |
| 23:58.28 | art3mis | its a pimp |
| 23:58.28 | Dustwhisper| | there are still certain CSS hacks you have to apply to IE even at ver 7 )=D |
| 23:58.30 | art3mis | you're the whore |
| 23:58.43 | art3mis | it beats you and fucks you and steals from you and you still go back to it ;P |
| 23:58.56 | Kaelten | ya, its a pain in the ass |
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| 23:59.21 | NightHawkAtWork | There shouldn't even be a concept of a CSS "hack" |
| 23:59.28 | CIA-22 | 03cronan * r45461 10BigBrother/localization_koKR.lua: |
| 23:59.28 | CIA-22 | BigBrother: |
| 23:59.29 | CIA-22 | - Update koKR |
| 23:59.48 | ravagernl | no, there should be no ie |
