| 00:00.04 | Kyahx | The proble on Windows is just that its bulky, eats up way more resources than it should for a music player |
| 00:00.11 | Qaarh | right agreed |
| 00:00.16 | Kyahx | or atleast that was my experience when I last used it |
| 00:00.21 | Kyahx | haven't touched it in ~8 months |
| 00:00.22 | Mellow_ | same here |
| 00:00.42 | Mellow_ | on my macbook its okay, still more resource than needed but its okay |
| 00:01.33 | Diao | hm |
| 00:01.37 | Diao | in prat how do you hide the chat scroll buttons |
| 00:01.44 | sylvanaar | i like the name coined for an iphone user's cell phone buill |
| 00:02.00 | Dustwhisper | uPay ? |
| 00:02.03 | sylvanaar | s/buill/bill/ |
| 00:02.09 | sylvanaar | iRate |
| 00:02.20 | Diao | nm found it |
| 00:04.17 | NightHawkTheSane | heh, speaking of iphone cell phone bills... |
| 00:04.37 | NightHawkTheSane | I guess AT&T enumerates each item you download via theirnetwork as a line item on the bill. |
| 00:04.47 | NightHawkTheSane | So with unlimited data, people are getting 45+ page bills. :P |
| 00:04.51 | RaydenUni | Anub'arak is in northrend right? |
| 00:04.55 | Amadeo | holy shit |
| 00:04.59 | sylvanaar | huh |
| 00:05.23 | sylvanaar | I think you meant w/o unlimited data |
| 00:05.47 | NightHawkTheSane | no,i meant with unlimited data plans, like the iphone has :P |
| 00:06.02 | sylvanaar | i have att unlimited - and there is no itemization |
| 00:06.02 | RaydenUni | like it doesn't restrict you after a while? |
| 00:06.19 | RaydenUni | oh, the bills aren't expensive. they just list every single download? |
| 00:06.27 | RaydenUni | every download of what? file? page? |
| 00:06.27 | NightHawkTheSane | RaydenUni: yeah |
| 00:06.34 | Mellow_ | MP3::Tag works fine? |
| 00:06.43 | RaydenUni | a page with a lot of images on it could be over 100 downloads |
| 00:07.02 | sylvanaar | maybe its regional |
| 00:07.20 | kenlyric | bills on paper? |
| 00:07.26 | kenlyric | you should introduce these people to the internet. |
| 00:07.55 | sylvanaar | one would think an iphone user knew about such things |
| 00:07.56 | NightHawkTheSane | http://daringfireball.net/linked/2007/july#fri-27-att_bills |
| 00:09.32 | kenlyric | "If AT&T thinks anyone cares, they should stick it on the Web, for crying out loud." |
| 00:10.00 | kenlyric | lordy |
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| 00:12.24 | kenlyric | the stupidest thing about AT&T is they make bundling impossible if you're already a customer. LIke I want to send three payments to the same damn company. |
| 00:12.26 | BankZ | damn, something messup my tooltips, they are going behind things rather than infront |
| 00:12.31 | BankZ | any ideas how to fix? |
| 00:13.00 | Mellow_ | anyway thanks all for the prompt answer :o) |
| 00:15.11 | Dustwhisper | ehm weird thing, if I have a function that creates a bunch of checkboxes and FontStrings how come they dont show unless I add a self:Print in the same function oO? |
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| 00:18.34 | Bruners | in terms of video what is best of TC and TS in quality ? |
| 00:18.44 | Dustwhisper | TC |
| 00:19.22 | Speeddymon | arg! |
| 00:19.25 | Dustwhisper | TS = cam with external audiosource like a plug for people with hearingissues |
| 00:19.32 | Dustwhisper | TC = film copied from the reel |
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| 00:19.52 | Trancer | TC is a snap from a digital cinema, copied from the reel yeah |
| 00:20.04 | Trancer | quality of a TC is typically quite good, but subtitles are embedded etc. |
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| 00:21.10 | Speeddymon | why do AceOptions tables have to be so difficult?! |
| 00:21.27 | sb | mh |
| 00:21.30 | sb | voice chat working on ptr? |
| 00:21.32 | sb | if yes: HOW? :P |
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| 00:21.57 | Speeddymon | i looked at the ptr patch notes but i didnt see anything about voice chat in it.. |
| 00:22.07 | Speeddymon | just some more mac candy options |
| 00:22.09 | sb | mh |
| 00:22.17 | kenlyric | mh? |
| 00:22.24 | sb | mh! |
| 00:22.32 | Speeddymon | wtf is mh? |
| 00:23.11 | Speeddymon | ,,, |
| 00:23.17 | sb | 0.2.0.7051 should be voice chat |
| 00:23.18 | Speeddymon | ... i mean lol |
| 00:23.25 | Bejitt | shieldb: ping |
| 00:23.30 | Speeddymon | where you read that? |
| 00:23.47 | sb | some strange wow page :o |
| 00:24.21 | kenlyric | the mysterious mh? |
| 00:25.09 | Speeddymon | 0. Voice Chat in 2.20 | 07/20/2007 11:23:22 AM PDT |
| 00:25.09 | Speeddymon | I thought that Blizz was gonna introduce voicechat in 2.20 but looking at the ptr notes, it isn't mentioned anywhere. What gives? Did i just miss something where they decided they were gonna wait until later? |
| 00:25.09 | Speeddymon | Set me straight s'il vous plait |
| 00:25.25 | Speeddymon | blue response: It will be in a future build of the current PTR. You haven't missed it. |
| 00:25.32 | Speeddymon | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=383391667&sid=1 |
| 00:25.41 | BankZ | damn, something messup my tooltips, they are going behind things rather than infront. I think CowTip. Any idea how to fix? |
| 00:26.12 | Speeddymon | Try disabling cowtip? |
| 00:26.53 | BankZ | I uninstalled it |
| 00:27.52 | CIA-32 | 03cryect * r45607 10Recount/healbuffs.lua: Recount - Bug fix with logic handling lifebloom |
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| 00:28.37 | JoshBorke | lifebloom|PoM > cryect |
| 00:29.46 | ag` | Hey ckknight, is it Stray Bullet Games? |
| 00:30.09 | BankZ | any other ideas? its really annoying |
| 00:30.17 | Cryect | haha Lifebloom worked fine! (I think) but Lifebloom I had like a not where it shouldn't have been and a > that should have been a < |
| 00:30.56 | Cryect | I mean Pom worked fine |
| 00:31.15 | Speeddymon | disable all addons and clear all saved variables.. |
| 00:31.27 | Speeddymon | then go back and re-setup all your addons one at a time |
| 00:31.38 | Speeddymon | doing a full exit and reload between each |
| 00:31.52 | Speeddymon | when the tooltips mess up, you have your problem addon. delete it |
| 00:32.04 | kergoth | Cryect, noticed a behavior i found a bit odd. first, i noticed that pet merging is on by default, but showing the pet in the window is on by default too.. so if a user not knowing any better adds those numbers together, he gets the wrong amount for him & his pet.. should, imo, either dont merge by default or dont show pet in window byd efault |
| 00:32.12 | JoshBorke | don't update your addons unless you know what you're doing (ie you know what you're updating and what changes it entails) |
| 00:32.28 | kergoth | Cryect, next, i noticed the time graphs show only my data, not my pet's + mine, even when we're merged.. and it dosent show the pet seperately |
| 00:32.29 | BankZ | Speeddymon: I know what addon caused it |
| 00:32.32 | BankZ | CowTip |
| 00:32.39 | kergoth | Cryect, imo it should either show me and my pet, or merge them and show the total |
| 00:32.40 | BankZ | its been uninstaleld |
| 00:32.58 | BankZ | but it left some bad affects |
| 00:33.06 | JoshBorke | no addon can permanently change anything (unless it messes with cvars, which is a horrible idea) |
| 00:33.17 | Speeddymon | if it's still doing it after you uninstalled cowtip, then cowtip didnt cause it, cowtip just caused something else to cause it |
| 00:33.24 | JoshBorke | and i'm pretty sure ckknight wouldn't do that |
| 00:33.31 | Speeddymon | ya no kiddin |
| 00:33.35 | Cryect | Yeah I will disable showing pets by default |
| 00:33.45 | Cryect | And yes several people have requested merging of pet dps |
| 00:33.57 | Cryect | I want to redo how I handle pets |
| 00:34.45 | BankZ | hmm, a /rl fixed it |
| 00:34.46 | BankZ | lol |
| 00:34.54 | kergoth | okay, thanks |
| 00:35.08 | CIA-32 | 03cryect * r45608 10Recount/Sync.lua: Recount - Removed debug code |
| 00:35.11 | kenlyric | yeah, having pet merging on by default fixes the hassle hunters have to go through getting their guilds to turn it on :) |
| 00:35.14 | ckknight | hey all, back |
| 00:35.18 | kergoth | hehe |
| 00:35.39 | kergoth | i love that you can mouse over and click on the bar to see details even though its merged, a lot of meters once its merged you cant drill down to break it back out |
| 00:35.43 | Bruners | hey ckknight |
| 00:35.52 | kenlyric | then again, when your cat does more dps than someone else, you want it to be separated. |
| 00:35.53 | ckknight | ag`: stray bullet games? |
| 00:36.05 | kenlyric | what mod are we talking about? |
| 00:36.15 | Bruners | violation i think ? |
| 00:36.18 | Cryect | Recount |
| 00:36.28 | ag` | ckknight, yeah, you just said you were going to work in texas on some mmo, so I figured it could be them |
| 00:36.45 | ag` | but I guess not =) |
| 00:36.47 | ckknight | Spacetime Games |
| 00:36.49 | Bruners | ckknight: how can i make cowtip show questinfo from nquestlog ? |
| 00:36.54 | ckknight | but that's not final at all |
| 00:36.57 | ckknight | I just sent my resume in |
| 00:37.03 | ag` | Yeah I know |
| 00:37.05 | Bruners | ckknight: like Gordunni orc 6/12 |
| 00:37.09 | ckknight | Bruners: it should just show if NQuestLog is done right |
| 00:37.17 | ckknight | since QuestsFu does it fine |
| 00:37.23 | Undine | it works fine with nquest for me |
| 00:38.04 | Bruners | so not something i have to add to "line texts" ? |
| 00:38.21 | ckknight | no |
| 00:38.56 | Bruners | why wont i work here then :( |
| 00:39.09 | Kemayo | It's possible that nquestlog needs to be updated. My tooltip module was one of the ones that it adopted, and that was probably before I updated it to use the newer system. |
| 00:39.59 | ckknight | hey Kemayo, do you have a college education? |
| 00:40.10 | Undine | i just switched from tiny tip to cowtip and nquest information seems ok to me |
| 00:40.25 | Kemayo | ckknight: I have part of a college education. |
| 00:40.32 | ckknight | ah, alright |
| 00:40.38 | ckknight | same here :-P |
| 00:40.38 | Kemayo | ckknight: Why do you ask? |
| 00:40.47 | Cryect | that question seemed kinda random |
| 00:40.51 | ckknight | *shrug* just talking behind your back, wanted more details |
| 00:40.56 | ckknight | nothing to fret over |
| 00:41.56 | Amadeo | So what's the deal with nQuestLog? I hear about it a lot, but I still like QuestsFu |
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| 00:42.10 | Amadeo | does it do anything special? |
| 00:42.16 | NightHawkTheSane | "hey kids... We're not parked in a red zone, are we?" |
| 00:42.27 | NightHawkTheSane | Amadeo: nah, it's just a different style. |
| 00:42.47 | Amadeo | I was hoping it would do my quests for me |
| 00:42.56 | NightHawkTheSane | oh, well it does that, obviously. |
| 00:43.02 | Amadeo | Nice! |
| 00:43.05 | NightHawkTheSane | i mean, what noob doesn't have a mod that does quests for them? |
| 00:43.06 | Thrae | BankZ: Matter of preference |
| 00:43.25 | Kemayo | ckknight: Well, unlike you, I sent $20 with my resume. So I'm sure they'll pick me. ;) |
| 00:43.41 | ckknight | lol |
| 00:43.41 | kenlyric | lol |
| 00:43.43 | ckknight | curses |
| 00:43.55 | Amadeo | haha |
| 00:43.57 | kenlyric | don't forget to slightly sent the paper. |
| 00:44.00 | NightHawkTheSane | Kemayo: lol |
| 00:44.03 | kenlyric | err, scent |
| 00:44.04 | Amadeo | at the top he wrote, "pick Kemayo #1!!!" |
| 00:44.10 | NightHawkTheSane | ckknight: you totally should have sent promises of sexual favors. |
| 00:44.19 | kenlyric | Boo that guy, Yay bender. |
| 00:44.19 | ckknight | bah |
| 00:44.23 | ckknight | you tell me this now, NightHawkTheSane |
| 00:44.45 | NightHawkTheSane | i thought this was standard practice.. >.> |
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| 00:45.26 | Bruners | anyone know how bEql is working ? |
| 00:45.35 | Kemayo | It's pretty much assumed if you're applying for a newbie job in the game industry, I think. |
| 00:45.38 | Thrae | BankZ: What you must remember, is that CowTip is a Liberal, while TinyTip is a Libertarian. |
| 00:45.48 | ckknight | wtf |
| 00:45.51 | ckknight | <-- Libertarian |
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| 00:46.02 | Thrae | ckknight: TinyTip Opposes the Big Framework :D |
| 00:46.26 | kenlyric | it prentends to oppose the big framework, but secretely loves it. |
| 00:46.33 | kenlyric | it's neo-con |
| 00:46.38 | ckknight | CowTip realizes that small, oppressive autocracies work as long as you uphold the values of life, liberty, and property |
| 00:46.39 | NightHawkTheSane | so ckknight's mods, and thus ace2 represent big government? |
| 00:46.42 | Thrae | kenlyric: You secretly love your mom. |
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| 00:46.52 | Kemayo | ckknight: In any case... for more details, I'm one semester away from getting my AA and having to move to a real college. |
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| 00:46.57 | Thrae | NightHawkTheSane: I'd say so. |
| 00:47.08 | ckknight | Kemayo: ah, okay, I've only done a year of college |
| 00:47.08 | NightHawkTheSane | does that mean KTM is the incompetent conservatives? |
| 00:47.17 | kenlyric | that may be the worst "your mom" joke I've ever heard. |
| 00:47.29 | Thrae | KTM is indeed a conservative regime...ultra-conservative ;) |
| 00:47.40 | ckknight | an autocratic corporate framework isn't against libertarian values |
| 00:47.47 | kenlyric | it's looking through your logfile even when it shouldn't |
| 00:47.47 | Thrae | kenlyric: Joke? |
| 00:47.48 | ckknight | as long as it doesn't take on a governmental role |
| 00:48.01 | Kemayo | I think this metaphor may have gone further than it needed to. |
| 00:48.14 | Amadeo | I heard Ace2 hooks up to Warden and steals your porn |
| 00:48.17 | kenlyric | don't start a metaphor you can't finish. |
| 00:48.31 | Thrae | kenlyric: Your mom is a metaphor. |
| 00:48.37 | Cryect | addons should no governing |
| 00:48.39 | NightHawkTheSane | Thrae: lol |
| 00:48.42 | Cryect | should have* |
| 00:48.51 | NightHawkTheSane | kenlyric: i metaphored your mom. |
| 00:49.26 | kenlyric | excellent. |
| 00:49.52 | kenlyric | it's certainly the only way she'd have sex with you. |
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| 00:51.34 | Thrae | kenlyric: Your relationship with your mom defies the Westermarck Effect to the Nth degree. |
| 00:51.53 | NightHawkTheSane | at this juncture i'm split between a self deprecating remark like "it's the only way -anyone- will have sex with me" and slandering your mom by saying "yeah, it's the only way anyone will have sex with her." |
| 00:52.24 | kenlyric | my mom is not a fan of the cock. |
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| 00:59.05 | CIA-32 | 03mysterix * r45609 10SmartQueue/Locale-deDE.lua: |
| 00:59.05 | CIA-32 | SmartQueue: |
| 00:59.05 | CIA-32 | -Fix for deDE Locale |
| 00:59.10 | Bruners | ckknight: are you going to add premade templates to cowtip ? |
| 01:00.02 | JCinDE | Does andreasg of ag_UnitFrames hang out here? |
| 01:00.19 | Bruners | ag`: |
| 01:00.27 | JCinDE | ah I see him there now |
| 01:02.52 | Shirik | heh |
| 01:03.02 | NightHawkTheSane | "Something wrong?" "No.. I've just.. never blown up a star before." |
| 01:03.05 | Shirik | issecurevariable("foo") returns nil, "" |
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| 01:24.10 | NeoTron | interesting |
| 01:24.20 | NeoTron | a friend is testing out a 19/21/21 lock spec |
| 01:24.44 | NeoTron | i,e sac succubus, imp CoA, Emp Corr build |
| 01:25.39 | Keias | ... o_O |
| 01:25.58 | NeoTron | apparently works better frmo a pure dps standpoint than 0/21/40 |
| 01:26.15 | NeoTron | but with worse longevity due to no soul leech (or siphon life) |
| 01:26.19 | Keias | Never was a fan of 0/21/40 myself |
| 01:26.27 | kenlyric | pot/shadowpriest? |
| 01:26.35 | Keias | I normally ran 41 affliction, or 5/35/21 |
| 01:28.49 | NeoTron | kenlyric: sure |
| 01:29.00 | CIA-32 | 03cryect * r45611 10Recount/Tracker.lua: Recount - Forgot to make sure a healbuff isn't on yourself in the first place |
| 01:29.08 | NeoTron | basically it means that CoA + Corruption > shadow and flame |
| 01:29.35 | NeoTron | it's really a bummer so much of the shadow tree from 21 pts up to 35 to get S&F is so .. fire or filler based |
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| 01:34.31 | NeoTron | http://armory.worldofwarcraft.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Kilrogg&n=Aminai <-- leet gear |
| 01:37.08 | ckknight | fun game: http://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/390370 |
| 01:37.36 | Bruners | quite good fire resistance gear yeah |
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| 01:41.45 | NightHawkTheSane | ckknight: funner game: http://www.harveycartel.org/metanet/n.html |
| 01:44.27 | NeoTron | Bruners: I esp like having 17.3k hp ) |
| 01:44.30 | NeoTron | when fully buffed |
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| 01:56.59 | stavmar_ | so why does big wigs imbeded gruul's assist require a haevy netherweave bandage in order to work? out of curiosity |
| 01:57.35 | Kemayo | Range-checking with a hardcoded item? |
| 01:57.45 | stavmar_ | nymbia: hello, glad to see you here |
| 01:58.26 | stavmar_ | Kemayo: not sure but the window will not open unless a bandage is in your inventory |
| 01:59.15 | stavmar_ | very weird and a message even tells you it is needed |
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| 02:03.52 | RaydenUni | so how does this torture game work? |
| 02:04.00 | RaydenUni | making gravity negative doesn't make the guy float |
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| 02:09.26 | ckknight | RaydenUni: really just make it positive |
| 02:09.36 | ckknight | at 212 degrees, he combusts |
| 02:09.45 | ckknight | and > 15 g's will break his spine |
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| 02:09.51 | RaydenUni | squishing the room doesn't do anything until you kill him |
| 02:09.53 | ckknight | and 0 room size will squish him |
| 02:09.58 | RaydenUni | and i can't get the oxygen to stay off |
| 02:10.04 | ckknight | oxygen does nothing |
| 02:10.07 | ckknight | don't worry about it |
| 02:10.30 | ckknight | get him to 211.5 degrees |
| 02:10.32 | ckknight | and 15 g's |
| 02:10.37 | ckknight | and squash the room on him |
| 02:10.45 | ckknight | and at the right time, bump up the temp and gravity |
| 02:10.48 | ckknight | and you get 3 at once |
| 02:10.54 | ckknight | also, use adrenaline to keep him alive |
| 02:11.24 | RaydenUni | burned alive? |
| 02:12.19 | RaydenUni | bah |
| 02:12.22 | RaydenUni | this is boring anyways |
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| 02:25.16 | ckknight | I thought it was interesting |
| 02:25.31 | ckknight | granted, I might be a sadist |
| 02:25.33 | ckknight | but that's besides the point |
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| 02:37.15 | Thrae | ~why |
| 02:37.16 | purl | Why? Because you touch yourself at night. |
| 02:38.06 | Gngsk | ~cry |
| 02:38.07 | purl | ACTION cries and sobs until he nearly drowns in his own tears |
| 02:39.02 | Thrae | purl: no, cry is <action> cries and sobs until she nearly drowns in her own tears. |
| 02:39.02 | purl | Thrae: okay |
| 02:39.09 | Thrae | All bots are female. |
| 02:39.41 | Diao | lol |
| 02:43.28 | xlvii | ~cry |
| 02:43.29 | purl | ACTION cries and sobs until she nearly drowns in her own tears. |
| 02:43.57 | TecnoBrat | hmmmm |
| 02:44.06 | TecnoBrat | Threat / Omen tracks threat for players? |
| 02:44.10 | TecnoBrat | like threat on players? |
| 02:44.26 | Thrae | TecnoBrat: It's Antiarc|Work's version of KTM, only better. |
| 02:44.35 | TecnoBrat | nah, I know what it does |
| 02:44.44 | TecnoBrat | I figured out why it was freaking out, nm |
| 02:44.50 | TecnoBrat | I had a priest targetted |
| 02:44.59 | TecnoBrat | and every time he targetted someone new, it would reset |
| 02:45.07 | TecnoBrat | and redo the threat for "no mob" |
| 02:45.23 | TecnoBrat | so it was like freaking out |
| 02:45.48 | Thrae | Remember everyone to have your friends install Threat-1.0, even if they don't use Omen -- especially if they use KTM. |
| 02:46.10 | TecnoBrat | yea my whole raid has omen installed :) |
| 02:46.25 | TecnoBrat | I just couldnt figure out why it kept resetting |
| 02:47.13 | Kemayo | ckknight: Is Pitbull's raid grouping currently as configurable as you plan to make it? |
| 02:47.24 | TecnoBrat | I'm good now .. just don't target a priest :P |
| 02:48.08 | Kemayo | ckknight: (I ask because my SO is complaining at me about it.) |
| 02:48.39 | ckknight | your wife, you mean? |
| 02:48.40 | Garoun|Loupana | hmm, where is the setting to make omen not color bars by class? |
| 02:48.46 | Kemayo | ckknight: Quite. |
| 02:48.54 | ckknight | :-P |
| 02:49.03 | ckknight | um, pretty much |
| 02:49.09 | ckknight | but what is she requesting? |
| 02:49.59 | Kemayo | ckknight: She says she'd like to be able to create raid groups based on (multiple) classes, and based just on individual players placed into that group. |
| 02:50.21 | ckknight | so use the normal raid group system |
| 02:50.24 | ckknight | pretty much |
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| 02:50.37 | Kemayo | It's possible some of that is in there. I haven't raided since switching to pitbull. I'm just going on what she's complaining about. |
| 02:50.42 | ckknight | but arbitrary creation of groups by non-leaders is something I don't see happening |
| 02:52.12 | Kemayo | She's a healer. She likes to set up arbitrary groups for "people I should heal" and "people who damn well deserve to die if they get aggro". |
| 02:52.37 | Diao | lol |
| 02:53.03 | Jaxon | Kemayo: might suggest creating single player windows using Blizzard's raid frames. |
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| 03:05.26 | ckknight | yea, Jaxon's advice will work |
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| 03:30.52 | ag` | ckknight, Kemayo, why not use nameList attribute? |
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| 03:31.32 | ckknight | you could, but you can't set up custom clusters with PitBull |
| 03:31.42 | ag` | ah, I see |
| 03:33.20 | ag` | anyway it's getting a bit early so I better go to bed now |
| 03:33.41 | ag` | man, 2v2 is cheesy |
| 03:34.19 | Xuerian | AKX: Chatr... right? Still working? :p |
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| 04:22.00 | CIA-32 | 03speeddymon * r45614 10/branches/CooldownTimers2/: |
| 04:22.00 | CIA-32 | CooldownTimers2: |
| 04:22.00 | CIA-32 | - |
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| 04:22.54 | CIA-32 | 03speeddymon * r45615 10/branches/CooldownTimers2/ (8 files in 2 dirs): |
| 04:22.54 | CIA-32 | CooldownTimers2: |
| 04:22.54 | CIA-32 | - Partially implemented GUI |
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| 04:41.24 | ckknight_ | Documentation is like sex: when it is good, it is very, very good; and when it is bad, it is better than nothing. |
| 04:42.13 | NightHawkTheSane | hehe. indeed. |
| 04:43.48 | Keias | What would the DogTag be for uh |
| 04:43.56 | Keias | ShortClass + Class color combined |
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| 04:44.48 | ckknight_ | [ShortClass:ClassColor] |
| 04:44.58 | dylanm | Shocking! |
| 04:45.08 | Keias | And here I was thinking it was more complex |
| 04:45.10 | Keias | thanks :P |
| 04:45.26 | Keias | Just wasn't sure if I needed SmartClass or anything |
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| 04:47.47 | ckknight_ | bbl |
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| 04:52.41 | Bejitt | haha nice analogy there, ckk |
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| 05:03.11 | NightHawkTheSane | "This is murder!" "It's ketchup..?" |
| 05:03.32 | Jaxon | +1 Hot Fuzz |
| 05:03.39 | Jaxon | Hag. |
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| 05:32.20 | ckknight | hehe, today's xkcd is funny |
| 05:32.34 | NightHawkTheSane | heh.. some redeeming grace for stardust, according to gaiman.. "And I think that it's nothing at all like the trailer." |
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| 05:36.49 | CIA-32 | 03roartindon * r45616 10Assessment/Modules/Deaths.lua: |
| 05:36.49 | CIA-32 | Assessment |
| 05:36.49 | CIA-32 | - Hopefully a fix for death logs not showing for current/saved fights |
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| 05:41.40 | CIA-32 | 03krakhaan * r45617 10CraftBot/ (6 files): |
| 05:41.40 | CIA-32 | CraftBot: |
| 05:41.40 | CIA-32 | - Added french translation (courtesy of Brat from Ner'zhul) |
| 05:41.40 | CIA-32 | - Updated /cb s clipboard x will send full reagent list of x to clipboard instead of just unusable links |
| 05:41.40 | CIA-32 | - Removed cbmats and related localizations, /cb resetmsg is recommended |
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| 06:05.34 | rubik | ughh.. nights like these makes me want to quit the game and stop trying to make raiding in a casual guild work |
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| 06:06.03 | rubik | (we wiped like 9 times on the Prince in Karazhan after one-shotting every single other boss) |
| 06:06.28 | rubik | i really wish there was more than 2% skill involved in that encounter |
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| 06:07.43 | twinight2 | hmm, as i'm again playing a healer |
| 06:08.23 | twinight2 | i'm remembering an old mod, i th ink it was castparty/healomatic? i never used the crazy clique-esque binds, but i did like the really plain bare-bones display option of just health and mana as plain text that you could plop on top of yourself |
| 06:08.27 | twinight2 | if you wanted |
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| 06:09.44 | Fin | ckknight: ping |
| 06:10.09 | ckknight_ | pong |
| 06:10.30 | Fin | ckknight_: I have a request for AceOptions |
| 06:10.37 | ckknight_ | oh? |
| 06:10.45 | Fin | it would be really nice to be able to define aliases for existing entries |
| 06:10.58 | ckknight_ | how do you mean? |
| 06:11.06 | Fin | there's a couple of times I've wanted to do that and it would be nice to be able to have a builtin way of doig so |
| 06:11.10 | Fin | +n |
| 06:11.21 | Fisker- | around Fin never relax |
| 06:11.55 | Fin | like, have something like { name = 'update', type = 'alias', aliasedto = 'add' } |
| 06:12.32 | ckknight_ | what would it _do_? |
| 06:12.40 | Fin | so, you can have a slash command or FuBar entry /myaddon update that does the same thing as /myaddon add (just have the function that's called handle it differently) |
| 06:12.42 | CIA-32 | 03totalpackage * r45618 10Capping/ (10 files in 3 dirs): |
| 06:12.42 | CIA-32 | Capping |
| 06:12.42 | CIA-32 | - Sync option for AV now sends a request for others to send their data |
| 06:12.42 | CIA-32 | - more tweaks to battlefield minimap autoshow implementation |
| 06:12.43 | CIA-32 | - general localization updates |
| 06:12.45 | CIA-32 | - updated for 2.2 save position changes |
| 06:12.50 | ckknight_ | oh |
| 06:12.54 | Fin | I can pastey some pseudocode if you like |
| 06:13.04 | ckknight_ | Fin: did anyone ever tell you how special you are? ;-) |
| 06:13.23 | ckknight_ | add = { name = "Add", ..., alias = "update" } |
| 06:13.25 | Fin | ckknight_: no. I think this is because I'm not special. |
| 06:13.25 | ckknight_ | :- |
| 06:13.28 | ckknight_ | :-P |
| 06:13.47 | ckknight | requesting things that are already implemented is fun, eh? |
| 06:13.51 | Fin | you're joking, really? |
| 06:13.54 | Fin | huh |
| 06:14.02 | Fin | have I missed some documentation somewhere? |
| 06:14.20 | ckknight | quite possible |
| 06:14.36 | Fin | I refer to this page quite a lot: http://www.wowace.com/wiki/AceOptions_data_table |
| 06:14.50 | Fin | there's no details about aliases there |
| 06:15.09 | Fin | oh, well, great :) |
| 06:15.50 | Fin | I mean, I hope it's just not been documented :) I'll add some once I've had a go |
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| 06:16.40 | Fin | that's the best type of feature request, one that's already been added |
| 06:16.53 | Fin | like bug reports for bugs that've already been fixed, they're my favourite |
| 06:16.57 | ckknight | hrm, guess it's not doc'd |
| 06:16.57 | ckknight | oh well, use alias |
| 06:17.30 | ckknight | basically, alias = "blah" or alias = {"blah", "otherblah"} |
| 06:17.35 | Fin | is it possible to say aliases = { 'update', 'change' } -- ? |
| 06:17.39 | Fin | hahah |
| 06:17.40 | Fin | awesome |
| 06:17.54 | Fin | can I also have lots of money? |
| 06:18.30 | Fin | blowjob from claudia schiffer? |
| 06:19.13 | Fisker- | >( |
| 06:19.17 | Fisker- | :) |
| 06:19.34 | Fisker- | do want |
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| 06:28.18 | CIA-32 | 03krakhaan * r45619 10AFX/ (. AFX.lua AFX.toc AFX.xml localization.lua readme.txt): |
| 06:28.18 | CIA-32 | AFX: initial commit |
| 06:28.18 | CIA-32 | - AFX allows sharing of in game audio effects between members of your party/raid (BETA). |
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| 06:49.57 | Bohrnag | Good morning. Is there anyone here I could trouble with a question or two about "Omen"? :) |
| 06:51.20 | ramoz | oh man |
| 06:51.23 | ramoz | ask to ask is so cool |
| 06:51.24 | ramoz | :P |
| 06:51.37 | Bohrnag | ? |
| 06:52.05 | Bohrnag | Well, I'll ask, and I'll see if anyone jumps up to respond :) |
| 06:52.11 | ramoz | good boy :) |
| 06:52.13 | Fin | hrm, one of the officers has been playing around with the Guild Information, it's set to this: |
| 06:52.16 | Fin | Dear Mr Jeffreys, |
| 06:52.18 | Fin | If you don't sent us the sum of £100,000 before midnight tomorrow, your son will not live. Drop the cash off at the old bridge in a black leather bag, come alone. If you do not adhere to these rules, your son will be the one who suffers. |
| 06:52.23 | Fin | The Jews. |
| 06:52.35 | Fin | that "lb" is a UK pound sign in-game, interesting translation |
| 06:53.00 | Bohrnag | Is there a method of checking KTM version numbers from within Omen? The "showpartyrevs" command only seemed to check for Omen versions last time I checked. |
| 06:53.44 | Fin | don't be such a mean bastard ramoz, Bohrnag is just being polite |
| 06:54.03 | Bohrnag | Currently in our guild we don't enforce a single threatmeter, as long as people use either Omen or KTM, all is good. But it would be nice to know that all have reasonably up to date version. |
| 06:54.29 | krka | Fin: ramoz wasnt so harsh, imo, and he was right. |
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| 06:57.24 | Fin | krka: he was mocking someone who was being polite; yeah asking to ask is unecessary, but there's no need to be rude about it - it's far better than the way most people demand responses to simple shit they could've found out themselves |
| 06:57.48 | Fin | and! |
| 06:58.01 | Fin | I should've put a smiley at the end of my sentence |
| 06:58.07 | art3mis | shut up fin and go code something useless for me |
| 06:58.10 | Fin | don't be such a mean bastard ramoz, Bohrnag is just being polite :) |
| 06:58.18 | Fin | OK art! I've got something prepared actually |
| 06:58.28 | krka | you're so sensitive fin :P |
| 06:58.38 | krka | maybe the internet isn't for you? |
| 06:58.40 | Fin | like a baby, I know |
| 06:58.46 | ckknight | Bohrnag: hrm, don't think so... Omen just checks for existence, afaik |
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| 07:00.04 | iKON | how do i change what the portraits look like in pitbull? |
| 07:01.40 | CIA-32 | 03fin * r45620 10FuBar_CustomMenuFu/ (CustomMenuFu.lua FuBar_CustomMenuFu.toc): (log message trimmed) |
| 07:01.40 | CIA-32 | FuBar_CustomMenuFu: |
| 07:01.40 | CIA-32 | - many changes; still slightly buggy, but the core functionality works; fixes incoming |
| 07:01.40 | CIA-32 | - you can now add, update, and delete menu entries by right clicking CustomMenuFu plugin in your FuBar |
| 07:01.40 | CIA-32 | - added option to set the title of your CustomMenuFu |
| 07:01.43 | CIA-32 | - added option to list currently defined entries |
| 07:01.45 | CIA-32 | - added standard FuBar entries (toggle icon, toggle title text, set position in your FuBar, attach to minimap) |
| 07:02.11 | Fin | CIA should say that there's 5 lines missing from the update :) |
| 07:02.34 | ckknight | yea |
| 07:02.40 | ckknight | or hell, just print em all :-P |
| 07:02.52 | Fin | heh, yeah |
| 07:02.54 | Makk | 08:57 < CIA-32> fin * r45620 FuBar_CustomMenuFu/ (CustomMenuFu.lua FuBar_CustomMenuFu.toc): (log message trimmed) |
| 07:02.57 | evl | yeah, nothing makes me hornier than a big ass update |
| 07:03.09 | Fin | it doesn't say how much has been trimmed though :) |
| 07:03.14 | Makk | ah |
| 07:03.20 | evl | infact, I'm going to go right now and make love to the receptionist, she's new. |
| 07:03.24 | Fin | I've got the horn right now |
| 07:03.44 | Makk | evl: nothing says "hello to the company" like a gang rape |
| 07:04.10 | Makk | damn, that came out wrong |
| 07:04.15 | Makk | could have been a good one |
| 07:04.17 | Makk | >_< |
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| 07:04.38 | evl | I said I was going alone but if you classify my lovemaking as gangrape it speaks very well for my karma sutra abilities indeed. |
| 07:04.53 | Makk | haha :P |
| 07:04.57 | iKON | there are lots of examples in "cool pitbull layout" thread that seem to be using portraits that are different tha the default one |
| 07:05.05 | art3mis | or those wierd growths on yer johnson |
| 07:05.14 | Makk | iKON: change the options |
| 07:05.19 | Makk | i mean |
| 07:05.22 | evl | 6[Schlong of Evl]0 9Equip: Increases your lovemaking skill rating by 69. |
| 07:05.31 | Makk | alt->rightclick |
| 07:05.40 | Makk | oh shiii |
| 07:05.42 | art3mis | -750 Intelligence |
| 07:06.29 | Fisker- | NOOO |
| 07:06.30 | Fisker- | Don't :( |
| 07:06.32 | Makk | been grinding for that for ages |
| 07:06.51 | iKON | Makk: you mean the configuration mode? |
| 07:07.10 | Makk | no, i mean the "height" "size" "layout" ones |
| 07:07.43 | Fin | ~pitbull |
| 07:07.43 | purl | hmm... pitbull is a unitframe designed to be as efficient as possible while still havinga lot of customization, and it being made by ckknight and others. IMBA. |
| 07:08.06 | Fisker- | purl, no pitbull is a unitframe designed to be as efficient as possible while still having a lot of customization, and it being made by ckknight and others. IMBA. |
| 07:08.07 | purl | okay, Fisker- |
| 07:08.09 | Fisker- | ownt |
| 07:08.20 | Makk | %K test? |
| 07:08.21 | Makk | aw. |
| 07:08.35 | Makk | 2test |
| 07:08.38 | Makk | yay. |
| 07:08.41 | Fisker- | do not want |
| 07:08.47 | Fisker- | 8,4lololol |
| 07:08.47 | Bejitt | Fin: http://www.wowace.com/wiki/FuBar_CustomMenuFu *nudge* |
| 07:09.04 | ckknight | Fisker-: no more colors |
| 07:10.31 | Fin | ~pitbull |
| 07:10.31 | purl | i guess pitbull is a unitframe designed to be as efficient as possible while still having a lot of customization, and it being made by ckknight and others. (layouts: http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=6878.0 thread: http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=6823.0) |
| 07:10.51 | evl | pitbull uses a lot of memory though! |
| 07:11.14 | accolade | not as much as duf tho |
| 07:11.20 | Fisker- | "to be as efficient as possible" |
| 07:11.22 | Fisker- | ! |
| 07:11.27 | Fin | Bejitt: the emptiness of the page is intended to represent the Zen silence of CustomMenuFu's inner peace |
| 07:11.53 | iKON | so all the portaits in that thread are the default ones... just sized differently? |
| 07:13.22 | Bejitt | lol |
| 07:13.28 | Bejitt | that and it was just born |
| 07:15.30 | Fin | hyperChipmunk: got a little bug report for BulkMail2 - if you send something to yourself, it goes into an infinite loops (I only ever do that sometimes when something I didn't expect to be sent to myself is sent automatically) |
| 07:16.01 | Fin | hyperChipmunk: but yeah, infinite loop and stuff. can you add something where it skips the current character when sending mail? |
| 07:16.29 | evl | ~seen Ominous |
| 07:16.30 | purl | ominous <n=Ominous@bb-87-82-20-71.ukonline.co.uk> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 7h 43m 30s ago, saying: 'pb_ee1: ping'. |
| 07:16.41 | Fin | hey, btw, what the fuck is the Darkmoon Faire doing outside Shat? |
| 07:16.43 | evl | can purl leave messages for people? |
| 07:16.53 | Fin | there's nothing about it in the calendar on the official site |
| 07:16.55 | evl | Fin: L70ETC is playing during BlizzCon |
| 07:16.56 | Fin | yes, evl |
| 07:17.00 | Fin | ~botmail |
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| 07:17.19 | Fin | evl: who's L70ETC? |
| 07:17.24 | hyperChipmunk | Fin: it should never send to yourself |
| 07:17.32 | hyperChipmunk | Level 70 Elite Tauren Chieftain |
| 07:17.51 | Fin | hyperChipmunk: it does for me, I think it's because Blizzard allow you to do that now, whereas previously you couldn't |
| 07:17.59 | iKON | his concert sucks.. dont waste your time |
| 07:17.59 | Fin | I think that's because mail to alts is instant |
| 07:18.07 | Fin | so you can send mail to yourself, as it just comes back instantly |
| 07:18.08 | hyperChipmunk | no, dude |
| 07:18.21 | hyperChipmunk | it says in the code, 'don't send to yourself' |
| 07:18.23 | hyperChipmunk | =P |
| 07:18.24 | iKON | lame ass 70s rock |
| 07:18.28 | hyperChipmunk | i didn't change it |
| 07:19.16 | Fin | hyperChipmunk: well, uhm, it does? I wouldn't report it if it didn't :) |
| 07:19.26 | hyperChipmunk | if dest ~= UnitName('player') and (rules[itemID] or rules[itype] and rules[itype][isubtype]) then canddest = dest end |
| 07:19.29 | Fin | it goes into an infinite loop |
| 07:19.34 | Fisker- | did the same to me a couple of days ago |
| 07:19.58 | hyperChipmunk | you're trying to foolz the old munk |
| 07:20.21 | hyperChipmunk | does unitname('player') still work as old? |
| 07:20.24 | hyperChipmunk | ohh |
| 07:20.34 | Fisker- | ""? |
| 07:20.45 | hyperChipmunk | is it perhaps listed as a lowercase name? |
| 07:21.03 | hyperChipmunk | send to myname instead of Myname |
| 07:21.23 | Fin | I don't think so |
| 07:21.26 | Fin | I can try it if you like |
| 07:21.46 | hyperChipmunk | check it out if you could |
| 07:22.01 | hyperChipmunk | always use the exact names for your rules |
| 07:22.04 | hyperChipmunk | with proper caps |
| 07:22.15 | Fin | nope, using caps works OK |
| 07:22.31 | Fin | it only happens when I'm sending something that I've assigned to be autosent to a particular player and it's the current player |
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| 07:22.37 | krka | perhaps do: dest:lower() ~= UnitName('player'):lower() |
| 07:22.52 | Fisker- | hax |
| 07:22.57 | hyperChipmunk | yea, but it's in lots of places |
| 07:23.12 | Fisker- | :( |
| 07:23.27 | krka | function isMyself(name) return name:lower() == UnitName('player'):lower() end |
| 07:23.27 | Fisker- | get notepad! |
| 07:23.27 | hyperChipmunk | and it's been a few months, but i KNOW there was a reason i left it |
| 07:23.33 | hyperChipmunk | i just don't remember why |
| 07:23.58 | hyperChipmunk | there was some really good reason why i couldn't just tolower everything |
| 07:24.04 | hyperChipmunk | because i used to have it that way |
| 07:24.10 | hyperChipmunk | and i totally forget why now =P |
| 07:24.28 | hyperChipmunk | but i promise, it was a really good reason |
| 07:24.33 | hyperChipmunk | >8x |
| 07:25.05 | hyperChipmunk | i think it had to do with making table keys or something |
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| 07:26.01 | cncfanatics | good morning ! |
| 07:26.15 | Fisker- | Get serious! |
| 07:26.17 | Fisker- | Morning |
| 07:26.20 | hyperChipmunk | anyway, the name is formatted correctly? |
| 07:26.24 | hyperChipmunk | and it still happens? |
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| 07:29.15 | hyperChipmunk | i'll look at it sometime when it's not 03:30 |
| 07:29.59 | Fisker- | sleep well |
| 07:30.00 | Fisker- | mwuhaha |
| 07:32.35 | Fisker- | :( |
| 07:34.10 | Fin | sedatedChipmunk: sleep well |
| 07:44.57 | evl | HAH |
| 07:45.25 | evl | That's fucking brilliant, I can disable all my "Lib:" standalone addons and the ones that are actually getting used will automatically enable themselves |
| 07:45.32 | evl | Chalk one up for disembeds! |
| 07:45.55 | Thrae | Aaaand we come full circle. |
| 07:45.58 | Fisker- | ^_-? |
| 07:46.51 | Fisker- | DO WANT evl |
| 07:47.00 | Fisker- | why does it enable by itself? |
| 07:47.10 | Arrowmaster | because acelibrary enables them |
| 07:47.18 | Fisker- | *fap* |
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| 07:47.25 | Fisker- | nice |
| 07:47.58 | Fisker- | i'll have to enable ace2 then? |
| 07:48.09 | Arrowmaster | yeah |
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| 07:48.34 | Xuerian | evl: Yep, only ace2 has to be enabled |
| 07:48.46 | Xuerian | It's been that way for a while, noobs |
| 07:48.54 | Diao | hm |
| 07:48.56 | Diao | was intervene changed |
| 07:48.59 | Xuerian | Thrae: lol. |
| 07:49.04 | Diao | it seems to automatically intervene my target's target now |
| 07:49.05 | evl | Would be nice if that was like DOCUMENTED somewhere |
| 07:49.07 | Diao | without me doing anything |
| 07:49.14 | Xuerian | Thrae: Curious, isn't it |
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| 07:50.31 | Fisker- | didn't seem to work for Threat-1.0 though |
| 07:50.44 | Arrowmaster | because it only works on LoD librarys |
| 07:50.57 | Arrowmaster | threat-1.0 isnt LoD and wont work correctly LoD |
| 07:51.26 | Thrae | Xuerian: Ah well, it's really just a hack, but it's funny how something that started out to gain the benefits of optimizations from embedding ended up needing the biggest optimization of disembedding once again. |
| 07:51.44 | Fisker- | cool stuff though |
| 07:52.01 | evl | WHAT THE FUCK |
| 07:52.02 | evl | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EwTZ2xpQwpA |
| 07:52.03 | evl | AGAHAHAA |
| 07:52.06 | Arrowmaster | because embeds are a pita to develop with |
| 07:52.10 | krka | embedding was about optimization? |
| 07:52.20 | krka | i thought it was about ease of use for users and developers |
| 07:52.24 | Fisker- | noooo evl |
| 07:52.25 | Fisker- | owld :( |
| 07:52.28 | Arrowmaster | embedding was about retarded users |
| 07:52.37 | Fisker- | http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=9mSKBgvHdoE <-is funnier anyways |
| 07:52.40 | Arrowmaster | well not really |
| 07:52.57 | Arrowmaster | it was about not overwriting libraries when extracting zips |
| 07:53.13 | Arrowmaster | when you have a system like WAU you dont need to worry about that |
| 07:53.28 | Thrae | Arrowmaster: Not really. And optimizing something designed for development makes no sense. |
| 07:53.32 | Bejitt | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fbGkxcY7YFU imo |
| 07:53.45 | Thrae | Arrowmaster: Because it increases the complexity overall. |
| 07:53.46 | Fisker- | awesome as well |
| 07:54.00 | Arrowmaster | its not purely for development |
| 07:54.30 | Arrowmaster | embeds are for normal users not using WAU, standalone libs are for developers and power users |
| 07:54.39 | Arrowmaster | and people using WAU |
| 07:55.31 | Fisker- | :( |
| 07:55.32 | Thrae | Arrowmaster: There are many things you can do with embeds that you can't do as easily with standalones. For instance, using a standalone model leans further towards making libraries bigger, which is why its favored with the Ace2 framework, which has grown well in size since its inception. |
| 07:55.36 | Xuerian | Thrae: We've sortof ended up at a midway; Embedding and disembedding coexisting, though the irony is still there |
| 07:56.33 | Thrae | Arrowmaster: If the libraries are optimized for embedding, there's no real need to make them standalone for anything but development. "Power user" or not. |
| 07:57.20 | Arrowmaster | WAU disembeds for good reasons |
| 07:57.43 | Arrowmaster | bandwidth! |
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| 07:58.00 | Thrae | WAU disembeds for its own reason...right, bandwidth. That's where the idea first came from. |
| 07:58.28 | Arrowmaster | no we were disembeding before WAU |
| 07:58.46 | Thrae | I said the idea first came from bandwidth problems, not from WAU. |
| 07:59.00 | Fisker- | yeha |
| 07:59.02 | Fisker- | yeah |
| 07:59.04 | Fisker- | i remember that |
| 07:59.07 | Arrowmaster | well actually think the first idea came from server cpu usage |
| 07:59.08 | Fisker- | when the SVN had issues |
| 07:59.14 | Arrowmaster | when we all used svn |
| 07:59.22 | Thrae | No one expected the SVN explosion, nor really forsaw the horrible resource issues from using so many externals. |
| 07:59.42 | evl | I like the lean feeling of disembeds |
| 07:59.53 | Thrae | Each external file required was another http request. |
| 08:00.24 | Thrae | The server has long since gotten over the resource issue, but the idea of disembed is still toted since WAU can handle it, and less bandwidth means less costs. |
| 08:00.33 | Arrowmaster | acelibrary searchs for and loads librarys so that mods dont have to put optdeps to every library they use for people that disembed |
| 08:00.45 | Thrae | evl: It's a false feeling, but you're more then welcome to it. |
| 08:00.49 | ckknight | also disembedded means no upgrade issues |
| 08:01.08 | evl | Well I'm on a 5400 laptop and less files to read on startup means better performance for me |
| 08:01.11 | ckknight | and it's not false, evl, things are a bit faster with disembeds |
| 08:01.15 | ckknight | at least startup costs |
| 08:01.17 | Thrae | Arrowmaster: I eluded to that earlier. |
| 08:01.24 | evl | ckknight: yes especially with slow disks like mine |
| 08:01.33 | Arrowmaster | which is sorta a developer/power user thing, we choose to disembed and one of the reasons was no upgrade issues |
| 08:01.38 | evl | And now all the libs are prefixed Lib: so it's not that hard to distinguish |
| 08:01.53 | evl | only lib I had to manually enable was Threat I think |
| 08:01.55 | Thrae | Even with your 5400 Laptop, the savings are trivial if the libraries are properly optimized. Its the bad libraries which the blame should be put o. |
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| 08:02.15 | ckknight | I'm gonna disagree strongly with that |
| 08:02.26 | ckknight | because reading a file and compiling takes time |
| 08:02.28 | ckknight | no matter what it is |
| 08:02.34 | ckknight | libraries return right away |
| 08:02.39 | ckknight | so it's just the compile time |
| 08:02.43 | ckknight | which means a lot of things |
| 08:02.54 | ckknight | from string allocation and interning as well as constant allocation |
| 08:03.02 | evl | I used to have SVN working copies in my addons dir, effectively making Wow index ALL my folders sending performance down the drain |
| 08:03.03 | ckknight | then you have a function in memory, needing to be GC'd |
| 08:03.19 | ckknight | compared to using standalones where that's just not needed. |
| 08:03.35 | Thrae | From my unit tests, there really wasn't that much savings. |
| 08:04.01 | cncfanatics | I have one svn working copy atm, and thats my own addo |
| 08:04.06 | cncfanatics | s/addo/addon/ |
| 08:04.13 | ckknight | from mine, especially with libraries with lots of strings (e.g. Babble) the savings are huge |
| 08:04.24 | Thrae | Well, there's a reason for that. |
| 08:04.31 | ckknight | because of string interning |
| 08:04.35 | ckknight | as I said |
| 08:04.46 | ckknight | and constant loading |
| 08:04.51 | evl | How about locales, won't loading 6-7 locales per addon take considerably more time? |
| 08:04.51 | Thrae | I'll just stop my end of the discussion here. |
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| 08:05.37 | ckknight | evl: the general idea is that the functions which load them are GC'd asap, and the strings of the file are GC'd on ADDON_LOADED |
| 08:05.50 | ckknight | still it does take time, especially for slow processors |
| 08:05.57 | evl | Just wish there was a sexier way to prevent the entire locale functions getting read at all |
| 08:06.06 | evl | "LoadOnLang: en" or something |
| 08:06.15 | ckknight | there's not |
| 08:06.24 | ckknight | which is sad in its own way |
| 08:06.28 | ckknight | I wanna make my own MMO |
| 08:06.33 | cncfanatics | heh ckknight |
| 08:06.34 | ckknight | with strippers ... and blackjack! |
| 08:06.43 | cncfanatics | if you ever start with that, I'd love to help you, but no strippers or blackjack please :p |
| 08:06.47 | cncfanatics | ~framexml |
| 08:06.47 | purl | get the official Blizzard Interface AddOn Kit here: http://www.blizzard.com/support/wow/?id=aww01671p or view it online at http://wdn.wowinterface.com/ |
| 08:06.58 | krka | hmm... reading and compiling lua should be lightning fast |
| 08:07.17 | ckknight | krka: yea, but WoW's file usage is crazy inefficient from the tests I've seen |
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| 08:07.30 | krka | oh... interesting |
| 08:07.50 | cncfanatics | if I remember well, if a file does not exist, it tries to open it anyway eh ? |
| 08:07.56 | ckknight | cncfanatics: what I really want is to handle the UI of an MMO |
| 08:08.00 | Thrae | You could use an XML file for localization...I should do some unit tests on that. See if the XML parser is any faster then opening possibly 8 localization files. I've been doing my unit tests on my gaming machine and a P3 500MHz. |
| 08:08.28 | ckknight | Thrae: how would you accomplish that? |
| 08:08.29 | ckknight | jw |
| 08:08.50 | ckknight | cncfanatics: e.g. work for someone who can make all the other stuff and just leave me to the UI prt |
| 08:08.52 | ckknight | part* |
| 08:09.15 | Thrae | ckknight: LoadScript XML can be placed inside Lua conditions, like if GetLocale == "deDE", etc. |
| 08:09.26 | ckknight | it can? |
| 08:09.28 | cncfanatics | it can ? |
| 08:09.35 | cncfanatics | lol same reaction |
| 08:09.35 | ckknight | I don't think so... |
| 08:09.36 | abbat_w | it can! |
| 08:09.46 | ckknight | Thrae: I'd like to see what you come up with |
| 08:09.48 | cncfanatics | Thrae, how would the XML file look like ? |
| 08:09.57 | cncfanatics | that would be very lovely for locales |
| 08:10.04 | ckknight | definitely |
| 08:11.01 | Thrae | Yes, I used it successfuly in the past with getting addon metadata to load files either locally or remotely depending on that module's embedded / disembedded (LoD) status |
| 08:11.19 | Thrae | I think Prat or one of the other heavy modularized systems uses XML in a similiar way |
| 08:11.32 | ckknight | Prat does something different |
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| 08:12.00 | cncfanatics | Thrae, I really think an example would be the best way |
| 08:12.18 | ckknight | yea, I'd like to see an example |
| 08:12.21 | Thrae | The way I handled modules, they were all kept in a single addon, but you could make them truly LoD by copying a directory that just contains a TOC file. The TOC file points to the XML file, which reacts properly depending on whether the module is an addon or simply a module. |
| 08:12.40 | Arrowmaster | prat uses a stub addon as an optdep that has a savedvar, the savedvar is available when prat loads and the beginning of each module can check the saved var to see if it should return or continue |
| 08:12.58 | Thrae | It was made before LoadManager existed...I'll go take another look at it, later. Getting late here now. |
| 08:13.23 | cncfanatics | if thats actualy possible, wooo for no more locale memory waste |
| 08:13.37 | abbat_w | yep |
| 08:13.48 | abbat_w | All my memory use by koKR localisations! |
| 08:13.53 | cncfanatics | lael |
| 08:13.57 | Arrowmaster | you would have to load the locals before the addon though |
| 08:13.57 | abbat_w | And Thai to ;) |
| 08:13.58 | cncfanatics | I just delete those files tbh |
| 08:14.16 | cncfanatics | Arrowmaster, if you can get a conditional into an xml file, not really |
| 08:14.23 | cncfanatics | the koKR file for example would just not be loaded |
| 08:14.29 | Arrowmaster | yeah |
| 08:14.54 | Arrowmaster | wouldnt need to have more than one 'addon' then |
| 08:14.58 | cncfanatics | now, I got a question too |
| 08:15.33 | cncfanatics | if I use RegisterStateDriver on a secure button frame, I dont have to add it to a secure state handler anymore right ? |
| 08:17.33 | nevcairiel | if you registerstatedriver, it has to be its own state handler |
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| 08:19.09 | Bejitt | huh.. you can define a local with the same name as a global? @_@ |
| 08:19.10 | cncfanatics | a secure button can be its own state handler ? :o |
| 08:20.00 | cncfanatics | nevcairiel, would you mind me reading some bt3 code and using it ? |
| 08:20.00 | nevcairiel | sure, just inherit the state handler template from your button, and it wont need a handler parent, and be a single button. but i wouldnt recommend it |
| 08:20.07 | ckknight | Bejitt: I do it all the time |
| 08:20.30 | Bejitt | yea that's where i see it |
| 08:20.33 | cncfanatics | I usualy use one state handler for all my buttons |
| 08:20.35 | Bejitt | in Parrot.lua |
| 08:20.47 | Bejitt | god, that's kinda weird |
| 08:20.50 | Bejitt | but... awesome |
| 08:21.22 | cncfanatics | everyone has its naming conventions :p |
| 08:21.44 | Bejitt | it's not just naming conventions |
| 08:21.57 | nevcairiel | feel free to use what you need, but its kinda based on a weird sheme. i dont like it myself anymore =P |
| 08:22.01 | Bejitt | just abusing the order that lua searches for variable names |
| 08:22.04 | Fisker- | ckknight have anyone suggested a "loadonlang" to slouken? :P |
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| 08:22.17 | Bejitt | oh you were talking to.. x.x |
| 08:22.21 | cncfanatics | nevcairiel, same about my old flexbar2 code, when it was almost ready I started to see flaws in the core :p leading to a recode |
| 08:22.29 | cncfanatics | I'd just like to know how you handle the state handler |
| 08:22.38 | cncfanatics | one single state handler for all buttons ? |
| 08:22.45 | nevcairiel | one per bar |
| 08:22.58 | ckknight | Bejitt: makes things faster |
| 08:23.01 | cncfanatics | whats the advantages of using multiple state handler ? |
| 08:23.15 | ckknight | Fisker-: similar things have been added |
| 08:23.20 | ckknight | err, requested' |
| 08:23.36 | cncfanatics | conditionals in lua would save us all tbh, if they actualy exist |
| 08:23.39 | nevcairiel | i can have different states for different bars, its just a design thing, it could be done with one header |
| 08:23.40 | Fisker- | ok |
| 08:23.41 | cncfanatics | s/lua/xml/ |
| 08:23.51 | evl | Locales in XML files make a looot of sense |
| 08:24.10 | Fisker- | Does locale stuff actually add significantly to the memory usage? |
| 08:24.13 | Fisker- | Cause they're quite big |
| 08:24.21 | cncfanatics | nevcairiel, so there's no distinct adventage of using more then one except to use more memory ? from a usage point of view |
| 08:24.25 | evl | They are all read I guess no matter what locale you use |
| 08:24.42 | cncfanatics | Fisker-, they're GC'd after load, but they add to load time I think |
| 08:24.43 | nevcairiel | cncfanatics: its easier to understand why it works =P |
| 08:24.48 | Fisker- | hmm |
| 08:25.00 | evl | what's this Load Script XML? |
| 08:25.57 | cncfanatics | nevcairiel, thing is, I work from a button form of design, groups are just some buttons clumped together that share movement, so one per bar (aka group) is not an option for me |
| 08:27.32 | Bohrnag | I hope it is OK that I ask another non-coding related question. Any suggestions on how recent ora2 I should "demand" my guild-members to use? I assume newer = better, but can't force everyone to upgrade daily :) |
| 08:28.16 | cncfanatics | Bohrnag, if they have WAU, its easy to just run WAU once and hit the update button before you run the game |
| 08:28.19 | ckknight | Bohrnag: get the version from 1 month ago, use that. |
| 08:28.27 | ckknight | as the minimum, I mean |
| 08:28.39 | ckknight | really, just forcing an arbitrary minimum is better than nothing |
| 08:29.15 | Bohrnag | I know if I don't force some version, many will continue to use old versions. Heck, I only just yesterday had to tell someone to upgrade his ctra from 1.62 or something. |
| 08:29.25 | nevcairiel | heh |
| 08:29.46 | ckknight | yea, just go with a month ago |
| 08:29.54 | nevcairiel | I do that with Threat, i just post a version once a week, and tell everyone to use that. When they dont, i scream at them =P |
| 08:29.57 | ckknight | when patch 2.2 comes along, force a recent version |
| 08:30.30 | cncfanatics | hmmm, nevcairiel |
| 08:30.43 | cncfanatics | is using is SecureButton_GetModifiedAttribute a lot any problems with cpu/memory usage ? |
| 08:30.45 | cncfanatics | its handy |
| 08:31.08 | Bohrnag | Yup, will do when 2.2 comes out, and will tell people to use maximum 1 months old ora2 :) |
| 08:31.31 | mitch0 | yo |
| 08:31.37 | ckknight | Bohrnag: no, when 2.2 comes out, force the minimum one with TOC 20200 |
| 08:31.44 | nevcairiel | cncfanatics: it was using alot of performance back in the day .. so everyone cached the results of it .. |
| 08:31.56 | mitch0 | ckk: I have an idea what might cause DogTag to eat cpu even when not shown |
| 08:32.29 | cncfanatics | wouldnt caching it sometimes get a wrong value ? |
| 08:32.41 | cncfanatics | if you never update the cache that is |
| 08:32.44 | Fisker- | i don't get why people can't keep their ace addons updated :P |
| 08:32.46 | nevcairiel | not if you know when to clear the cache |
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| 08:32.56 | Fisker- | I always just update all addons 15 minutes before a raid |
| 08:33.12 | nevcairiel | i generally update once a day before i log in |
| 08:33.13 | cncfanatics | nevcairiel, when should it be cleared ? I really need to get used to this again |
| 08:33.13 | mitch0 | nice way to screw yourself fisker :) |
| 08:33.28 | nevcairiel | sometimes twice, after i wake up and before raid =P |
| 08:33.35 | Fisker- | well same here nevcairiel but i update just before a raid as well :P |
| 08:33.39 | Fisker- | mitch0 yeah :P |
| 08:34.01 | Fisker- | pretty stupid when you get a bad update |
| 08:34.04 | nevcairiel | cncfanatics: i just clear it on OnAttributeChanged |
| 08:34.13 | cncfanatics | nevcairiel, thank you |
| 08:34.21 | Fisker- | that reminds me |
| 08:34.21 | Bohrnag | I update manually every now and then. Can't use WAU as I'm on a Mac. |
| 08:34.25 | nevcairiel | Fisker-: thats easy with svn, i just hit revert :D |
| 08:34.34 | Fisker- | i must find nymbia so he can make me a GM ticket addon :( |
| 08:34.37 | mitch0 | ckk: so, my though is that DogTag "things" are never told that the fontstrings they generate are not shown any more (parent frame hidden) |
| 08:34.48 | mitch0 | ckk: so they still receive Updates and such |
| 08:34.55 | mitch0 | is that possible? |
| 08:34.57 | cncfanatics | nevcairiel, how is it triggered ? -.- event, script, other, on what frame ? |
| 08:35.05 | ckknight | yes, mitch0 |
| 08:35.14 | ckknight | though actually... |
| 08:35.16 | ckknight | shouldn't be |
| 08:35.17 | mitch0 | ckk: can anything be done about it? |
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| 08:35.40 | nevcairiel | cncfanatics: script on the frames you added to the header |
| 08:35.44 | mitch0 | ckk: well, it seemd that as long as I didn't show any dogtag stuff on my ui, DogTag use 0.01 ms or so |
| 08:35.44 | nevcairiel | so script on the buttons |
| 08:35.56 | cncfanatics | so SetScript will do fine, great |
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| 08:36.11 | mitch0 | once I mouseovered something, it went to 3-4ms, and stayed there even after the tooltip went away |
| 08:36.22 | cncfanatics | ouch, painfull |
| 08:36.50 | mitch0 | nevcairiel: you're the bartender dev, right? |
| 08:37.18 | cncfanatics | nevcairiel, thanks a lot for all the answers to the nuby questions :) has been a while since I used secure buttons |
| 08:37.36 | nevcairiel | mitch0: nah, he is still on vacation, i am just the answering machine |
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| 08:37.57 | Fisker- | lol |
| 08:38.04 | Fisker- | there's a lot of Murloc Suits for sale on ebay |
| 08:38.08 | Fisker- | i wanna snipe one |
| 08:38.15 | Fisker- | Starting bid: US $1.00 |
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| 08:38.16 | mitch0 | nev: I see. can you ask him when he gets back what the major features of BT4 will be? :) |
| 08:38.20 | Fisker- | End time: 22 hours 41 mins (Aug-04-07 00:18:46 PDT) |
| 08:38.20 | Fisker- | :P |
| 08:39.20 | mitch0 | nev: and another question is: what eats the most CPU in BT3 right now? I mean, what feature? |
| 08:39.27 | Fisker- | Blizzcon 2007 swag bag. EVERYTHING but murloc suit. <-ahhaha |
| 08:39.28 | mitch0 | nev: range checking? |
| 08:39.31 | Fisker- | like anyone want that |
| 08:39.48 | nevcairiel | mitch0: probably |
| 08:39.58 | mitch0 | ok, will disable then |
| 08:40.19 | Diao | beta key? |
| 08:40.19 | nevcairiel | i dont think disabling it will save you performance |
| 08:40.22 | nevcairiel | it still does it |
| 08:40.26 | mitch0 | oh |
| 08:40.27 | mitch0 | why? |
| 08:40.44 | Fisker- | Diao bah i'm guaranteed a beta spot anyways |
| 08:40.48 | Diao | how so |
| 08:40.51 | Diao | o: |
| 08:40.56 | Diao | i want sc2 beta key :( |
| 08:41.03 | nevcairiel | its the same func that colors the buttons grey for not-usable etc |
| 08:41.07 | nevcairiel | cant be turned off =P |
| 08:41.12 | nevcairiel | its a design flaw, somehow |
| 08:41.19 | mitch0 | rm. if (true) then return end :) |
| 08:41.30 | Bejitt | ckk: gonna bug you about your coding, b/c i'm curious why you did these things :P |
| 08:41.39 | ckknight | k |
| 08:41.40 | Fisker- | Diao i has my sources |
| 08:41.46 | nevcairiel | now that i think of it, its really a flaw :o |
| 08:41.56 | Bejitt | omg n/m i see |
| 08:41.58 | Bejitt | hahaha |
| 08:42.13 | Bejitt | didnt see the 'local new, del, ...' above it |
| 08:42.13 | nevcairiel | but whatever, i will be gone for the weekend in 2 hours =P |
| 08:42.24 | mitch0 | nev: oh, and another thing. I haven't checked where exactly you create the buttons, but if it's done after db is ready, would it be possible to add an option to activate on AnyUp or AnyDown (default AnyUp as it is now)? |
| 08:42.36 | Fisker- | Blizzard have a tendency to reinvite their promising beta testers :P |
| 08:42.41 | Bejitt | in parrot.lua where you put the caching (right?) functions |
| 08:42.56 | mitch0 | fisker: you're fsckd then |
| 08:43.00 | Fisker- | nooo |
| 08:43.04 | mitch0 | don't think they need trolls |
| 08:43.05 | cncfanatics | Fisker-, how do they do invites ? I got an invite for TBC without asking for one |
| 08:43.08 | nevcairiel | i hope blizz does give invites for devs again |
| 08:43.08 | Fisker- | i'm not filesystem checked |
| 08:43.09 | ckknight | yea |
| 08:43.10 | Bejitt | was confused why you made the functions global ... but then saw the declarations above it >_< |
| 08:43.14 | cncfanatics | but kinda didnt help out much :p just stood in thrallmar coding |
| 08:43.19 | Fisker- | cncfanatics the last part was just random |
| 08:43.28 | Fisker- | But they started out with Friends & Family |
| 08:43.28 | cncfanatics | Fisker-, guess I got lucky then :p |
| 08:43.46 | Fisker- | then they added contestants along with some raiding guilds |
| 08:43.54 | Fisker- | and then they started just inviting a lot of random people |
| 08:43.59 | abbat_w | mitch0, do you test difference between anyup / anydown? |
| 08:44.02 | Fisker- | I was in the second phase |
| 08:44.12 | mitch0 | abbat: yep. AnyDown is teh winner |
| 08:44.20 | abbat_w | ;) |
| 08:44.55 | mitch0 | abbat: first I tought it didn't work though, as my bindings were still on the original blizz bars :P |
| 08:45.01 | nevcairiel | heh |
| 08:45.11 | cncfanatics | Fisker-, I have no idea what phase I was in |
| 08:45.26 | abbat_w | As a mage i found what anydown much better for me. Maybe i'm got accustomed |
| 08:45.29 | nevcairiel | i got into the phase for addon devs |
| 08:45.31 | nevcairiel | was fun =P |
| 08:45.41 | cncfanatics | how to know why I was invd ? :p |
| 08:45.50 | nevcairiel | you dont |
| 08:45.50 | cncfanatics | think it was for addon devs too tbh |
| 08:46.07 | cncfanatics | how u know then ? :p |
| 08:46.09 | nevcairiel | either you signed up yourself for that addon dev thing on WoWI |
| 08:46.20 | cncfanatics | oh, nope, didn't, random then I guess |
| 08:46.21 | nevcairiel | or if you didnt, you got one of the random invites |
| 08:46.40 | cncfanatics | that email SO looked like spam when I got it |
| 08:46.50 | nevcairiel | heh |
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| 08:51.34 | Fisker- | http://www.blogsmithmedia.com/www.wowinsider.com/media/2007/08/img_1461.jpg <-omg they gave away the expansion |
| 08:52.34 | accolade | nah |
| 08:52.46 | accolade | blizzcon is to celebrate both past and upcoming patches |
| 08:52.56 | accolade | games* |
| 08:52.59 | accolade | ^^ |
| 08:53.49 | accolade | Don't they'd recycle TFT graphics |
| 08:53.49 | Fisker- | well it doesn't matter since they already gave it away 4 days ago :P |
| 08:54.15 | accolade | gief url |
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| 08:54.24 | accolade | I haven't followed the news lately |
| 08:54.31 | Fisker- | www.mmo-champion.com |
| 08:55.04 | accolade | cheers |
| 08:55.39 | accolade | But I don't want Arthas yet |
| 08:55.44 | accolade | :< |
| 08:55.48 | cncfanatics | well, they copyrighted the name eh ? |
| 08:55.52 | cncfanatics | so yea they gave it away :p |
| 08:56.07 | accolade | Well, they copyrighted SC2 in '98 |
| 08:56.25 | cncfanatics | we just know how it'll be called |
| 08:56.27 | cncfanatics | now when it'll be out |
| 08:56.31 | accolade | True dat |
| 08:56.39 | Fisker- | accolade they don't need to copyright the number itself anyways |
| 08:56.39 | accolade | But I don't want it to be the next expansion |
| 08:56.58 | Fisker- | Starcraft counts for Starcraft 1,2,3, and how many sequels they want to make |
| 08:57.13 | accolade | Oh |
| 08:57.20 | nevcairiel | why not? its just old lore that gets recycled now .. i cant wait for new lore in the expansions afterwards :D |
| 08:57.33 | cncfanatics | WTB deathnight |
| 08:57.46 | accolade | Well, they've raped the lore once, why just not give it the total shaft |
| 08:57.47 | cncfanatics | s/deathnight/deathknight/ |
| 08:57.50 | mitch0 | I just don't understand why they'd copy the failed Jedi concept |
| 08:58.02 | cncfanatics | we'll see how hero classes work |
| 08:58.03 | nevcairiel | i wonder what thats you need to do to unlock the deathknight |
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| 08:58.16 | cncfanatics | same here |
| 08:58.20 | cncfanatics | tanking/dps hybrid |
| 08:58.25 | cncfanatics | sounds like a decent version of the paladin |
| 08:58.36 | cncfanatics | of what the paladin should be at least :p |
| 08:58.43 | Diao | that's a warrior |
| 08:58.43 | nevcairiel | isnt a warrior a tanking/dps thing ? :P |
| 08:58.50 | mitch0 | hero classes should've been a progression to your current character, not some new shit you can "unlock" |
| 08:58.59 | nevcairiel | i agree mitch0 |
| 08:59.02 | accolade | but warlocks stole death coil, can't give it to death knight anymore :E |
| 08:59.07 | nevcairiel | but better then nothing =P |
| 08:59.12 | nevcairiel | a new char i can start at high lvl |
| 08:59.16 | Arrowmaster | warlocks always had deathcoil |
| 08:59.24 | mitch0 | nev: well, I don't think I'll ever have a hero character this way |
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| 08:59.32 | nevcairiel | i will |
| 08:59.40 | accolade | Arrowmaster: they had it in WC3? |
| 08:59.46 | Diao | i doubt it's an account unlock though |
| 08:59.46 | nevcairiel | i am a healer, if i can get a free highlvl char to farm money, yes sir! :) |
| 08:59.52 | Arrowmaster | they had its forever in wow |
| 08:59.59 | mitch0 | nev: so what will be the coolness in BT4? |
| 09:00.00 | accolade | I'm not talking about wow |
| 09:00.02 | ckknight | accolade: death knights did |
| 09:00.05 | cncfanatics | well |
| 09:00.06 | accolade | Death Knight had death coil in WC3 |
| 09:00.06 | ckknight | in WC3 |
| 09:00.06 | cncfanatics | I'm guessing he'll start at lvl 70 |
| 09:00.06 | cncfanatics | but, how will you get gear ? start with gear too ? |
| 09:00.12 | accolade | As I was trying to state |
| 09:00.12 | Fisker- | I doubt the leaked faq is real |
| 09:00.15 | nevcairiel | mitch0: dunno, didnt have time to really thinkg about it |
| 09:00.17 | cncfanatics | if u start naked at lvl 70 ur dead |
| 09:00.34 | mitch0 | nev: hehe. why did you start it in the first place then? what's wrong with BT3? |
| 09:00.47 | Fisker- | nah cncfanatics |
| 09:00.57 | Fisker- | Someone is leveling to level 70 without gear |
| 09:00.58 | cncfanatics | Fisker-, how u'll think they do it then |
| 09:01.00 | Fisker- | well he have trinks + ring |
| 09:01.04 | Fisker- | and neck |
| 09:01.09 | cncfanatics | meh, class ? |
| 09:01.13 | Fisker- | Warrior |
| 09:01.17 | Fisker- | he's level 66 now |
| 09:01.24 | Arrowmaster | weapon? |
| 09:01.26 | Fisker- | nothing |
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| 09:01.41 | cncfanatics | lol |
| 09:01.41 | cncfanatics | just ouc |
| 09:01.41 | cncfanatics | warrior with wep sucks |
| 09:01.41 | cncfanatics | just autohit |
| 09:01.43 | Fisker- | he have 2 trinkets, 2 rings, 1 neck and an offhand |
| 09:01.43 | Arrowmaster | so hes killing the lowest level mobs he can that give xp? |
| 09:01.52 | Fisker- | i don't know :P |
| 09:02.00 | Arrowmaster | he would have to |
| 09:02.24 | Arrowmaster | i just got my rogue to 58 and started questing in hellfire |
| 09:02.26 | Fisker- | http://forums.wow-europe.com/thread.html?topicId=17702127&sid=1&pageNo=1 |
| 09:02.27 | Diao | if he's fury |
| 09:02.29 | Arrowmaster | was getting raped |
| 09:02.30 | Diao | he can at lesat bloodthirst |
| 09:02.33 | Diao | least* |
| 09:02.34 | Fisker- | he have a 80-page topic about it |
| 09:02.52 | cncfanatics | sigh |
| 09:02.57 | cncfanatics | so he just needs attention then |
| 09:03.12 | cncfanatics | lemme bet, he put everything on video too ? |
| 09:03.42 | Fisker- | yeah |
| 09:03.55 | Fisker- | but the same reason i didn't pay attention to it |
| 09:04.01 | cncfanatics | emo guy that needs attention :p |
| 09:05.43 | CIA-32 | 03hedin * r45621 10WF3sec/core.lua: WF3sec: Added toggles for Buffbars and MeleeFrame |
| 09:07.08 | Fisker- | btw |
| 09:07.14 | Fisker- | this guy must feel pretty fucked now |
| 09:07.18 | Fisker- | World of Warcraft Blizzcon 2007 Murloc Suit Code |
| 09:07.23 | Fisker- | 1 bid $500.00 |
| 09:07.38 | cncfanatics | 500$ ? |
| 09:07.39 | cncfanatics | lol |
| 09:07.42 | Fisker- | and most don't even exceed 100$ yet :D |
| 09:08.13 | Arrowmaster | maybe its somebody trying to drive the prices up and have friends bid high |
| 09:08.40 | Fisker- | perhaps |
| 09:08.43 | mitch0 | hm. I think Omen:Toggle() is borked |
| 09:08.59 | Arrowmaster | search ebay for 'spectral tiger' |
| 09:09.26 | Fisker- | do not want |
| 09:09.30 | Fisker- | well i do want |
| 09:09.36 | Fisker- | but do not want for 450$ :P |
| 09:09.42 | Arrowmaster | they arent even out yet |
| 09:10.10 | Fisker- | http://www.blogsmithmedia.com/www.wowinsider.com/media/2007/08/lockinlyric.jpg <-WHAT THE |
| 09:10.21 | Fisker- | I want Tier 2 remodelled |
| 09:10.25 | Arrowmaster | if im still playing the game when the cards come out later this month ill have to keep checking ebay to find a cheap one |
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| 09:10.45 | Fisker- | man if bloodfang looked like that |
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| 09:11.00 | Arrowmaster | Fisker-: that was posted on blizzards fanart pages |
| 09:11.20 | Arrowmaster | named hellfire i think |
| 09:11.26 | Fisker- | :P |
| 09:11.50 | Fisker- | Looks like bloodfang |
| 09:12.07 | cncfanatics | that rocks |
| 09:12.09 | cncfanatics | destro set I supose ? :p |
| 09:12.20 | accolade | Bloodfang with dreadsteed feet |
| 09:12.29 | Fisker- | i'd hit it |
| 09:12.34 | Arrowmaster | google ftw |
| 09:12.35 | Arrowmaster | http://www.blizzard.com/inblizz/fanart/ScreenShot.aspx?ImageIndex=365&Set=0 |
| 09:13.14 | dreamss2 | i got my gorehowl =) |
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| 09:14.06 | cncfanatics | oh its fanart |
| 09:14.06 | cncfanatics | ~clap whoever made that |
| 09:14.09 | Fisker- | indeed |
| 09:14.38 | Arrowmaster | i still want to know where my damn green fire is.... |
| 09:15.05 | cncfanatics | poor poor lollock |
| 09:15.25 | Arrowmaster | you know not that i actually ever use fire spells |
| 09:15.59 | Arrowmaster | well i use darkpact which has a fire graphic even tough its shadow |
| 09:15.59 | cncfanatics | affliboi |
| 09:16.09 | cncfanatics | but well, most fire spells are useless as lock dps wise anyway |
| 09:16.19 | cncfanatics | except maybe with only firedmg gear & a sac'd imp it could outdps shadow |
| 09:17.05 | Arrowmaster | if incen was 3 sec cast with bane reducing it to 2.5 then it would really be able to compete with shadow |
| 09:18.57 | Fisker- | bah |
| 09:19.02 | Fisker- | typically blizzard to delete lulz |
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| 09:19.13 | Fisker- | someone had made a topic of what the trainer tells you when you train something new |
| 09:19.22 | Fisker- | Trainer: Hey. Hey. You know how when you stealth, you walk really slow? |
| 09:19.22 | Fisker- | Rogue: Yeah? |
| 09:19.22 | Fisker- | Trainer: You can just walk faster while doing it, with no downsides. |
| 09:19.22 | Fisker- | Rogue: DEAR GOD THAT'S BRILLIANT! WHY DIDN'T I THINK OF THAT?! |
| 09:19.22 | Fisker- | Trainer: 2 gold plz, kthx |
| 09:19.23 | Fisker- | >P |
| 09:19.25 | Fisker- | :P |
| 09:19.45 | abbat_w | Guys |
| 09:20.09 | abbat_w | Some time ago i see mod which write file where put spell and corresponding event |
| 09:20.21 | abbat_w | Main idea was run this addon and go to BG |
| 09:20.41 | vhaarr | Transcriptor |
| 09:20.45 | abbat_w | After some time addon write large file with tonns of spells/events |
| 09:20.51 | Arrowmaster | Fisker-: 2g? wtf are you smoking |
| 09:21.20 | Arrowmaster | are rogue skills ever that cheap? |
| 09:21.22 | abbat_w | vhaarr, where i can found this addon? |
| 09:21.32 | abbat_w | Doesn't exists at wowi |
| 09:21.38 | Arrowmaster | wowace |
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| 09:22.13 | abbat_w | Thanks |
| 09:22.16 | Fisker- | can't remember anymore Arrowmaster |
| 09:22.36 | Fisker- | yeah |
| 09:22.41 | Fisker- | rank 3 stealth is 2g |
| 09:22.45 | Fisker- | (level 40) |
| 09:23.03 | Arrowmaster | bastards want 5g each from me earlyer today just for a kick that did more damage, a slightly faster sprint, and an ambush i didnt purchase |
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| 09:23.25 | Fisker- | heh |
| 09:23.29 | Fisker- | i always buy my skills |
| 09:23.34 | nevcairiel | getting to level 70 is fun, you normally pay around 20-30g for new stuff :P |
| 09:23.52 | Arrowmaster | yeah i know the lvl 70 rogue skills are 12g each |
| 09:25.11 | cncfanatics | Arrowmaster, u'll end up buying them anyway :) |
| 09:25.25 | Fisker- | Some people are just funny |
| 09:25.40 | Fisker- | "Omg blizzard have stated NUMEROUS times that you will need to be level 90 to face arthas" |
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| 09:25.51 | Fisker- | numerous as in ONE time, like 3 YEARS ago? |
| 09:25.53 | Fisker- | :P |
| 09:26.00 | |Pixel| | :D |
| 09:26.14 | Arrowmaster | 7g2s for most expensive warlock skills, but then again theres more warlock skills than rogue skills |
| 09:26.50 | Diao | what |
| 09:27.05 | Diao | i thought all classes paid the same D: |
| 09:27.11 | Arrowmaster | looks like druids are at 9g |
| 09:27.23 | dreamss2 | Arrowmaster add pet skills? |
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| 09:28.02 | Arrowmaster | fucking warriors |
| 09:28.06 | Arrowmaster | 5g85s |
| 09:28.13 | dreamss2 | repair costs |
| 09:28.37 | dreamss2 | warriors have to get hit to get rape |
| 09:28.41 | Arrowmaster | 10g80s mages |
| 09:28.47 | dreamss2 | each hit has a chance to cause dmg |
| 09:28.47 | cncfanatics | mages usualy dont get hit at all |
| 09:29.03 | cncfanatics | rogues shouldnt die often, so got more expensive skills in return I guess |
| 09:29.06 | Arrowmaster | hahaha |
| 09:29.07 | dreamss2 | cause dur dmg |
| 09:29.14 | Stephmw | howdy |
| 09:29.15 | Arrowmaster | hunters at 17g10s |
| 09:29.16 | cncfanatics | dreamss2, same for rogues |
| 09:29.27 | cncfanatics | Arrowmaster, grinding classes ftw :p |
| 09:29.54 | dreamss2 | rogues dont have to get hit to fill tehir energy |
| 09:29.56 | Arrowmaster | i seriously doubt anything other than number of skills would effect the skill costs |
| 09:30.10 | cncfanatics | hmmm, count them then |
| 09:30.15 | cncfanatics | the cost of all skills 1-70 should end up the same |
| 09:30.35 | CIA-32 | 03cncfanatics * r45622 10FlexBar2/ (8 files in 5 dirs): FlexBar2: Added an event manager for buttons |
| 09:30.38 | dreamss2 | there was a website that had lifetime skill cost including pet per class |
| 09:30.39 | dreamss2 | hehe |
| 09:30.43 | Arrowmaster | pallys at 11g70s |
| 09:30.55 | dreamss2 | havent seen a list like that since then |
| 09:31.23 | Arrowmaster | priests 12g60s |
| 09:31.23 | cncfanatics | pally's have lots of skills |
| 09:31.24 | cncfanatics | lots of seals & blessings & stuff |
| 09:31.56 | dreamss2 | shamans have like 100totems |
| 09:31.57 | Arrowmaster | shaman 7g92s |
| 09:31.57 | dreamss2 | hehe |
| 09:32.45 | dreamss2 | i count about 50 ish abilities on my shaman |
| 09:32.46 | Arrowmaster | so what is that, hunter rogue priest pally druid shaman warlock warrior |
| 09:32.49 | Arrowmaster | who did i miss |
| 09:33.15 | Arrowmaster | hunter rogue priest pally mage druid shaman warlock warrior |
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| 09:33.43 | Arrowmaster | rogue and priest actually tied |
| 09:33.46 | Bejitt | wow.. i wonder how many mods leave their console options in a local var |
| 09:34.01 | Arrowmaster | most do |
| 09:34.11 | cncfanatics | Bejitt, do you mean the AceOptions table ? |
| 09:34.12 | cncfanatics | why would you want to make that global ? |
| 09:34.22 | dreamss2 | addup their lifetime costs with pet skills included |
| 09:34.44 | cncfanatics | most either register it directly, or make it local |
| 09:34.47 | Arrowmaster | dreamss2: fuck that get somebody to write a wowhead dataminer to do it |
| 09:35.03 | cncfanatics | dreamss2, you could try to get Arrowmaster to do it |
| 09:35.13 | dreamss2 | well that would be better example |
| 09:35.22 | Bejitt | that's my point, cnc |
| 09:35.31 | Bejitt | er |
| 09:35.37 | Arrowmaster | hunter pet skills are included on wowhead with hunter skills |
| 09:35.39 | cncfanatics | Bejitt, if its global, its bad, no point |
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| 09:35.51 | Arrowmaster | warlock arent |
| 09:36.00 | cncfanatics | Arrowmaster, thats normal |
| 09:36.03 | cncfanatics | warlock ones are tomes |
| 09:36.05 | abbat_w | This addon detect all events/spells? |
| 09:36.05 | abbat_w | Oh |
| 09:36.05 | abbat_w | Trasncriptor writen by same guy who make FreeRefils ;) Should work ok then ;) |
| 09:36.05 | abbat_w | ~seen rabbit |
| 09:36.07 | purl | rabbit <n=rabbit@net.w0w0w.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #kde, 709d 10h 6m 5s ago, saying: '+in'. |
| 09:36.07 | abbat_w | ~seen kyahx |
| 09:36.08 | purl | kyahx is currently on #wowi-lounge (7h 30m) #wowace (7h 30m). Has said a total of 8 messages. Is idling for 6h 7m 46s, last said: 'me too, dammit'. |
| 09:36.08 | abbat_w | ;( |
| 09:36.10 | cncfanatics | hunter ones are directly learned |
| 09:36.14 | Bejitt | what i mean is, they initialize a local var to a huge table to be passed to something like RegisterChatCommand |
| 09:36.22 | Bejitt | and then do nothing else w/ the variable |
| 09:36.35 | cncfanatics | Bejit, should pass it directly then |
| 09:36.38 | Bejitt | like, oh, i dont know ... destroy it |
| 09:36.45 | Bejitt | yea |
| 09:36.45 | Arrowmaster | you cant destory it |
| 09:36.45 | cncfanatics | Bejitt, can't destroy it |
| 09:36.50 | cncfanatics | the table it used by Ace |
| 09:36.54 | Bejitt | @_@ |
| 09:37.05 | cncfanatics | either local or passed directly, its used by ace anyway so its just a reference less |
| 09:37.17 | Arrowmaster | tables are references |
| 09:37.20 | cncfanatics | still ,if you do nothing with it dont make a local reference to it and pass it directly imo :p |
| 09:37.37 | Arrowmaster | if you change the local var then you change the registered options |
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| 09:37.50 | Bejitt | yea i was planning on that, cnc |
| 09:37.59 | Bejitt | just looking around |
| 09:38.02 | cncfanatics | yep Arrowmaster, thats why some addons localize it :) |
| 09:38.13 | cncfanatics | some addons localize it and never ever modify it afterwards tho |
| 09:38.25 | cncfanatics | thats still a waste of mem even if tables are references |
| 09:38.39 | Arrowmaster | some do that because its easyer to work with the table that way for some people i think |
| 09:38.45 | nevcairiel | one reference to the table isnt really bad =P |
| 09:39.00 | cncfanatics | depends how much time it happens |
| 09:39.14 | cncfanatics | one reference to a table isnt bad, but if you have 100 addons and all do it it adds up |
| 09:39.15 | nevcairiel | once per addon? :D |
| 09:39.26 | nevcairiel | thats still 100 table references |
| 09:39.32 | nevcairiel | no memory at all imho |
| 09:39.41 | cncfanatics | hmmmm, 1k addons then xD |
| 09:40.11 | cncfanatics | but, the naruto special just finished downloading |
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| 09:40.22 | cncfanatics | lets see if its crap (as usual) or not (hopefully) |
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| 09:47.15 | mitch0 | any Threat-1.0 devs around? |
| 09:47.17 | Dustwhisper | cncfanatics what is the right way to destroy and free a table and also to reinitialize it for reuse |
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| 09:49.52 | mitch0 | I don't think the highlighted lines are kosher: http://ace.pastey.net/71743 |
| 09:50.20 | Arrowmaster | thats ckk's doing |
| 09:50.47 | ckknight_ | no it's not |
| 09:51.04 | Arrowmaster | you left it in there when you redid that part atleast |
| 09:51.20 | abbat_w | 'are kosher' ;) |
| 09:51.28 | abbat_w | mitch0, where you from? :) |
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| 09:52.12 | ckknight_ | abbat_w: I say that things are kosher as well |
| 09:52.23 | ckknight | Arrowmaster: no, that wasn't my doing |
| 09:52.32 | ckknight | afaik |
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| 09:52.59 | abbat_w | btw guys |
| 09:53.12 | Arrowmaster | although i think i agree, those lines look like they might cause issues with the alwaysRunOnSolo |
| 09:53.15 | abbat_w | it is possible to detect which events registered by frame? |
| 09:53.24 | abbat_w | if i have frame name |
| 09:53.30 | ckknight | Arrowmaster: yea, it should be removed |
| 09:53.37 | ckknight | no, abbat_w |
| 09:53.53 | abbat_w | eh |
| 09:54.25 | mitch0 | abbat: I'm from .hu |
| 09:54.54 | mitch0 | so, someone wanna remove them? :) |
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| 09:55.06 | mitch0 | ckk: btw the original code that you replaced looked like shit :) |
| 09:55.29 | ckknight | I don't think I like your tone |
| 09:55.56 | mitch0 | pardon me noble sir, I'll watch my tongue in the future |
| 09:57.04 | abbat_w | Ahahah ;) |
| 09:57.08 | mitch0 | what I meant to say was that part of code was not done in the most elegant syntax, to say the least :) |
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| 09:59.45 | mitch0 | this code: http://ace.pastey.net/71744 also looks fishy (I don't think it does what the author intended it to do) |
| 10:00.36 | abbat_w | Hmm... Whats wrong with this code? |
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| 10:00.54 | abbat_w | if state or not self.Anchor:IsVisible() then - hard to read? |
| 10:01.27 | mitch0 | it does the wrong thing if it's already hidden and I call Toggle(false) |
| 10:01.46 | mitch0 | (it'll Show() it) |
| 10:01.55 | abbat_w | sure |
| 10:02.22 | mitch0 | Toggle(false) should always hide it (according to usage, see for example OnDisable() |
| 10:02.44 | abbat_w | if state == true second condition skipped |
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| 10:04.09 | Grum | lol that is omen code? |
| 10:04.21 | Grum | Omen has bugs with 'showing in group' indeed |
| 10:04.38 | abbat_w | pff... |
| 10:04.43 | Arrowmaster | rofl it finally showed up http://www.wowhead.com/?item=15141 |
| 10:04.48 | abbat_w | btf, can someone fix small error in PitBull |
| 10:05.10 | abbat_w | If you in raid and someone leave you party |
| 10:05.23 | abbat_w | Last party frame always marked with raid mark |
| 10:05.41 | abbat_w | But not raid mark actually assigned |
| 10:05.41 | Arrowmaster | sounds like a tainting issue |
| 10:06.06 | Arrowmaster | not really sure but that happens with the default ui target frame due to taint |
| 10:06.14 | abbat_w | 90% of time party frame marked with yellow mark, but in 10% it was orange mark ;) |
| 10:06.15 | Grum | mitch0: is that all the code in that function? |
| 10:06.48 | mitch0 | yes |
| 10:07.30 | Grum | hmm it's not |
| 10:07.34 | Grum | self.db.profile.ShowOmen = (Omen.Anchor:IsVisible() and true or false) -- DB didn't like nil |
| 10:08.07 | Grum | it is BS to call a toggle with a value |
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| 10:09.51 | cncfanatics | DustWhisper, remove all its entries |
| 10:10.07 | cncfanatics | loop through it and remove all nontable entries and move all the table ones for reusage |
| 10:11.04 | Grum | mitch0: the logic in the code is good (in trunk svn) |
| 10:11.40 | mitch0 | erm, it's the one I pasted |
| 10:11.47 | mitch0 | and no, it's not good |
| 10:12.02 | mitch0 | it should look something like this: http://ace.pastey.net/71745 |
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| 10:14.24 | mitch0 | just follow the path of OnDisable() and assume it's already hidden, and you'll see |
| 10:14.33 | abbat_w | Hmm.... |
| 10:14.43 | abbat_w | I think it's a wrong logic |
| 10:15.14 | abbat_w | I think this function should not modify state |
| 10:15.21 | abbat_w | just check and do something |
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| 10:16.13 | mitch0 | abbat: Toggle(state) changes ShowOmen to state, Toggle() flips that state (according to usage in code elsewhere) |
| 10:16.23 | Borked|Raider | anyone who know just abit about fraps, who can assist :) trying to upgrade from the trial version to the full version, but the full version just dont run. Need a toll to delete the stuff in regedit or so |
| 10:16.50 | abbat_w | if state == nil then state = not self.db.profile.ShowOmen end |
| 10:17.07 | mitch0 | yes? |
| 10:17.08 | abbat_w | i mean this string shold be outside this function. maybe |
| 10:17.26 | mitch0 | no, that's how Toggle() is done |
| 10:17.34 | mitch0 | then state is nil |
| 10:17.44 | abbat_w | ah, sorry then |
| 10:18.12 | mitch0 | the logic now in trunk almost does it, but it has its corner-cases... |
| 10:18.15 | abbat_w | I look at fucntion end and found what function anyway modify state |
| 10:19.22 | mitch0 | EPARSE |
| 10:20.48 | Grum | mitch0: i see the code is 'a bit cleaner' but how is it actually changed compared to the other one? |
| 10:20.56 | Grum | they both seem valid enough just some reversed logic |
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| 10:21.31 | Grum | where your version will do stuff based on an internal variable - the original code will do it based on the actual status |
| 10:21.57 | mitch0 | grum: erm, I told it already |
| 10:21.58 | Fisker- | http://pcmedia.ign.com/pc/image/article/810/810325/blizzcon-2007s-beginnings-20070802074811350.jpg <-Draenei Zerg Paladin? |
| 10:22.27 | mitch0 | grum: the orig code fails if state == false not IsVisible() |
| 10:22.49 | Grum | mm |
| 10:23.05 | mitch0 | s/not/and not/ |
| 10:23.12 | Grum | hmm true that if it's not visible and not wanted to be visible it will fail indeed |
| 10:23.20 | Grum | nice catch :) |
| 10:23.49 | mitch0 | just hunting for my waterelemental bug. it's probably not caused by this though :) |
| 10:23.55 | Fisker- | http://pcmedia.ign.com/pc/image/article/810/810325/blizzcon-2007s-beginnings-20070802074820772.jpg <-do not know if want |
| 10:24.00 | Grum | 'water elemental bug' ? :) |
| 10:24.08 | Dustwhisper | that looks like a protoss Fisker- the first one |
| 10:24.24 | mitch0 | omen sometimes pops up when I'm solo with my WE out although I have set ActiveWithPet off |
| 10:24.32 | Fisker- | lol as if Dustwhisper |
| 10:24.39 | Fisker- | But it might be the hybrid race |
| 10:24.42 | Grum | btw could you also chase the: I am in combat and have 'Only-Show-Omen-In-Group' toggled and then join a group but Omen will now show! bug? :D |
| 10:24.53 | Dustwhisper | it is |
| 10:25.01 | Dustwhisper | looks totally like a dark zealot or similar |
| 10:25.25 | Grum | mitch0: did you check what happens if you toggle: "always show Omen" ? it has 3 modes :) |
| 10:25.37 | Grum | because of the bug you just found ;) |
| 10:26.02 | Grum | and i think you might have solved it :) |
| 10:26.05 | mitch0 | I'd commit the fix, but dunno how picky antiarc is about ninja commits |
| 10:26.30 | Grum | it fixes a real problem - put in a comment what original state it fixed so he can easily justify it :) |
| 10:26.55 | mitch0 | and actually that comment in my pastey is unneeded. Omen assumes that Show() stuff is run even if the current state in db is ShowOmen |
| 10:26.56 | Grum | then he should be only glad someone contributed and did something decent :) |
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| 10:27.13 | CIA-32 | 03phyber * r45623 10ManaPerc/ManaPerc.lua: |
| 10:27.14 | CIA-32 | ManaPerc: |
| 10:27.14 | CIA-32 | - Slight change to option table. |
| 10:27.20 | Grum | well your code is cleaner |
| 10:27.41 | mitch0 | grum: some guys here have strange egos, so you'd better be safe at first :P |
| 10:27.58 | Grum | what if 'self.db.profile.ShowOmen' has a nil inside? |
| 10:28.08 | mitch0 | AceDB crashes :P |
| 10:28.18 | mitch0 | so, no, that won't happen |
| 10:28.32 | mitch0 | or at least, that's what the comment in the original code hints at |
| 10:29.07 | Grum | gah scary |
| 10:29.17 | Grum | but seeing this code actually make me want to develop lua =) |
| 10:29.19 | Grum | looks nice and clean |
| 10:29.57 | Grum | btw there is something to say for checking the 'actual' value of the visibility |
| 10:30.45 | CIA-32 | 03hedin * r45624 10WF3sec/meleeframe.xml: WF3sec: xml add |
| 10:31.25 | CIA-32 | 03hedin * r45625 10WF3sec/meleeframe.xml: WF3sec: xml delete |
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| 10:35.45 | CIA-32 | 03phyber * r45626 10XPBarNone/Core.lua: |
| 10:35.45 | CIA-32 | XPBarNone: |
| 10:35.45 | CIA-32 | - Removed some unnecessary vars from the options table. |
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| 10:42.46 | cncfanatics | back |
| 10:43.10 | yoshimo | i got errors with decursive, how do i correctly file a trac-ticket for it? |
| 10:43.38 | cncfanatics | mail the author is still the best way imo :p |
| 10:43.53 | yoshimo | ok, who is it? ;) |
| 10:45.01 | cncfanatics | http://www.wowace.com/wiki/Decursive |
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| 10:45.56 | Elkano | is there an inverse operation of table.concat? |
| 10:46.03 | cncfanatics | table.split |
| 10:46.09 | cncfanatics | string.split even |
| 10:46.42 | cncfanatics | concat is what will take every field in the table (ipairs) & put em together with a seperator in between right ? |
| 10:47.07 | Elkano | yes |
| 10:47.18 | cncfanatics | then its string.split |
| 10:47.23 | cncfanatics | as long as there's a seperator |
| 10:47.33 | cncfanatics | he syntax is weird though |
| 10:47.39 | Elkano | is split in lua itself? |
| 10:47.41 | cncfanatics | string.split(seperator, string) |
| 10:47.45 | cncfanatics | blizzard added it |
| 10:47.54 | cncfanatics | but they messed up the argument order |
| 10:48.18 | Elkano | ok, it's working in my scite ^^ |
| 10:51.16 | cncfanatics | scite ? |
| 10:51.17 | cncfanatics | vim ftw |
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| 10:52.10 | Elkano | well, just solving this in lua ^^ http://projecteuler.net/index.php?section=view&id=18 |
| 10:52.15 | Elkano | <3 metatables |
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| 11:04.51 | cncfanatics | I barely ever use metatables :p |
| 11:05.08 | sylvanaar | me either |
| 11:05.34 | cncfanatics | dont really need them for an actionbar addon |
| 11:05.57 | sylvanaar | i tried them in prat - it seemed to run alot slower |
| 11:06.10 | sylvanaar | i dont know why |
| 11:06.18 | nevcairiel | depends where you use them, i guess |
| 11:06.25 | nevcairiel | there are some really handy things |
| 11:08.30 | sylvanaar | i have a big table, that needs to never return nil, and to preserve its original contents. I tried implementing that using 2 metatables |
| 11:09.04 | cncfanatics | never return nil ? |
| 11:09.09 | cncfanatics | thats easy, set a default value |
| 11:09.25 | sylvanaar | where do you think default values come from |
| 11:09.43 | cncfanatics | one metatable :) |
| 11:09.49 | sylvanaar | right |
| 11:10.00 | sylvanaar | i had 1 metatable for that |
| 11:10.24 | sylvanaar | and 1 which had the original table contents |
| 11:10.38 | cncfanatics | uuh ? |
| 11:10.47 | cncfanatics | you should just set a metatable on the one with the original content |
| 11:10.47 | sylvanaar | which inherited from the first |
| 11:11.53 | sylvanaar | then, the original content becomes the default values for the final table |
| 11:14.34 | nevcairiel | so you have a table like {1,2,nil,3,4,nil,etc} and for the "nil" you want to get a default value? |
| 11:16.00 | cncfanatics | you can do it way easyer then that sylvanaar |
| 11:16.34 | sylvanaar | yeah, i just implmented __index and pointed it at another table |
| 11:17.56 | Qaarh | Hrm, is there a way to see what a certain item matches in PeriodicTables (like, an addon to show it in game or the like)? I'm trying to set up some baggins rules and it's not doing what I want with buff food |
| 11:18.22 | Nargiddley | alt-right click the item |
| 11:18.40 | Qaarh | ahhhh thanks! |
| 11:18.51 | Qaarh | that was in the manual, right? |
| 11:19.04 | Nargiddley | i dont think i've updated the manual in months |
| 11:19.38 | Qaarh | Heheh |
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| 11:20.27 | Qaarh | Perfect, now I can easily find what won't give me buffs :) Thanks a bunch |
| 11:22.46 | weab_ | speaking of baggins, i must say <3 |
| 11:22.50 | Qaarh | Agreed |
| 11:22.58 | Qaarh | <3 Baggins |
| 11:23.13 | weab_ | it's almost exactly the bag mod i intended to make in janaury but was too lazy |
| 11:23.18 | NM|Xinhuan | does getn() work properly on a table like that? |
| 11:23.20 | NM|Xinhuan | [8/3 19:19:09] <sylvanaar> yeah, i just implmented __index and pointed it at another table |
| 11:23.29 | Qaarh | do you guys know of any alternative to autobar? |
| 11:23.52 | Qaarh | preferably compatible with cyCircled |
| 11:24.06 | sylvanaar | well, it was a keyed table so idk |
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| 11:24.56 | weab | autobar is almost useless with a baggins consumables bag |
| 11:25.25 | Qaarh | Hrm.. |
| 11:25.35 | Qaarh | Guess I could have it pinned and locked |
| 11:25.37 | cncfanatics | I love autobar tbh |
| 11:25.41 | weab | though i haven't gotten rid of it either |
| 11:25.50 | nevcairiel | i used to love autobar back when it actually worked before 2.0 |
| 11:25.59 | nevcairiel | now i just use a default bar and drop potions in it =P |
| 11:26.39 | cncfanatics | works nice except when consumables run out during combat |
| 11:29.19 | Qaarh | nevcairiel: I'd do that, but.. I try to keep the buttons down, since I mostly bind everything.. |
| 11:30.13 | JoshBorke | i use bartender and drop potions in it ;-P |
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| 11:31.00 | sylvanaar | i cant use autobar at all in combat |
| 11:31.13 | weab | my main problem with autobar is i put it on the left side of the screen which is the side that synergy links to my macbook |
| 11:31.23 | weab | but i don't want to put it anywhere else. |
| 11:32.58 | Qaarh | haha this looks silly... a stealthed rogue with a prairie chicken pet :D |
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| 11:33.27 | weab | it's always fun to find rogues on pvp servers like that. |
| 11:33.40 | Qaarh | :D |
| 11:33.55 | Qaarh | I play on a RPPvE server, can't stand PvP servers |
| 11:34.16 | weab | i play on a pve server at the moment. i miss my pvp |
| 11:34.45 | weab | some druid was running around pvp flagged that i got to kill a few days ago, i was ecstatic. |
| 11:34.48 | Qaarh | if I want pvp, there are arenas and world pvp *shrug* |
| 11:35.05 | cncfanatics | 5v5 arena is fun |
| 11:35.06 | weab | not the same :( |
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| 11:35.14 | cncfanatics | 5v5 arena in a gib team <3 |
| 11:35.23 | cncfanatics | frostmages will usualy iceblock the first 10 sec of the match lol |
| 11:35.27 | weab | fun, but not the same |
| 11:35.39 | cncfanatics | never played in pvp servers |
| 11:35.40 | cncfanatics | always pve :p |
| 11:36.01 | Qaarh | weab: I played my first character on a pvp server. I got bored around lvl 54 (pre tbc) when I couldn't go anywhere without getting ganked |
| 11:36.05 | CIA-32 | 03athou * r45627 10CraftList2/CraftList2.lua: |
| 11:36.05 | CIA-32 | CraftList2: |
| 11:36.05 | CIA-32 | - workaround attempt for that new 200 control limit in waterfall |
| 11:36.09 | weab | so satisfying to be able to kill some guy trying to steal your mine node. or to kill someone and take theirs |
| 11:36.25 | weab | yeah. it isn't for everyone. and it can be frustrating |
| 11:36.30 | weab | but i still miss it :P |
| 11:37.25 | Qaarh | now I enjoy my little lowbie alt rogue getting pwned by defias pillagers... </3 fireball... |
| 11:37.45 | Nargiddley | Athou, if you need more controls and it doesnt cause problems I can increase it |
| 11:37.46 | JY|Scree1 | i'm on a pvp serveur and i never saw pvp outside of raid instance entrance |
| 11:38.15 | JY|Scree1 | and lowbie killing |
| 11:40.18 | cncfanatics | JY|Scree1, never got killed while mining a node ? |
| 11:40.21 | Athou | actually for each profession I have a category containing a checkbutton for each craft for that profession |
| 11:40.30 | JY|Scree1 | im herbalist :D |
| 11:40.37 | Athou | and 200 is a little bit short |
| 11:40.40 | JY|Scree1 | and druid |
| 11:40.55 | cncfanatics | JY|Scree1, never killed someone that just herbed a node u were about to take then ? |
| 11:40.58 | cncfanatics | i'm on a pve server |
| 11:41.04 | cncfanatics | when I farm terocone I would love to kill some farmers |
| 11:41.07 | JY|Scree1 | resto druid ^^ |
| 11:41.18 | weab | aka, helpless |
| 11:41.25 | weab | you could cyclone them and take it though |
| 11:41.26 | JY|Scree1 | once a rogue backtabbed me |
| 11:41.34 | JY|Scree1 | already in the air |
| 11:41.42 | JY|Scree1 | on a node |
| 11:42.30 | JY|Scree1 | but thats rare |
| 11:42.43 | CIA-32 | 03nargiddley * r45628 10Waterfall-1.0/Waterfall-1.0/Waterfall-1.0.lua: Waterfall-1.0: Control limit raised to 250 |
| 11:43.02 | Athou | thanks :) |
| 11:44.35 | CIA-32 | 03athou * r45629 10CraftList2/CraftList2.lua: |
| 11:44.35 | CIA-32 | CraftList2: |
| 11:44.35 | CIA-32 | - adjusting for changes made to waterfall again |
| 11:47.40 | Qaarh | I don't think I've ever spent this much time dead... |
| 11:48.07 | mitch0 | nargiddley: hi. would it be possible to add the "replace bags" feature of AdvancedBagsPlus to baggins? |
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| 11:52.47 | Borked|Raider | Auto OP is on, press alt+f4 for getting @ infront of your nick |
| 11:52.47 | JoshBorke | ... |
| 11:52.48 | Borked|Raider | ok i am tired |
| 11:52.48 | Borked|Raider | and cant get my fraps working |
| 11:52.48 | Borked|Raider | sadly i cant see if anyone leaved the channed either |
| 11:52.48 | Nargiddley | mitch0, dont know how well it would work. i'll look into it after i get the things i'm working on done |
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| 11:54.10 | Qaarh | that's almost as fun as typing /quit <person> to disconnect that person :D |
| 11:54.29 | weab | sooo, not? |
| 11:54.52 | ramoz | haste: did you make a oTweak thing yesterday? :O |
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| 12:00.47 | mitch0 | nargiddley: it would be awesome. I'm still stuck with ABP+ just for that feature |
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| 12:02.22 | mitch0 | ckk: are you around? |
| 12:04.40 | Arrowmaster | grr i wish i had a paintball gun right now so i could give this damn cat sitting in my back yard a new spot |
| 12:05.15 | Arrowmaster | neighbours cat gone stray and wont fucking leave the area |
| 12:06.09 | evl | WTF? |
| 12:06.13 | evl | Cat won't leave the arena? |
| 12:06.17 | Qaarh | haha |
| 12:06.21 | Ominous | evl: did you get my message? |
| 12:06.27 | evl | http://a6.vox.com/6a00c225204fef549d00c2252927068fdb-75si |
| 12:06.29 | evl | camping cat! |
| 12:06.32 | evl | Ominous: no :( |
| 12:06.35 | evl | Ominous: but hi |
| 12:06.37 | Ominous | go ahead :) |
| 12:06.43 | evl | goodie |
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| 12:09.40 | evl | Ominous: can one call frame:SetAttribute("state", 0) from anywhere? I would like to hide the warning prior to each warning check |
| 12:10.29 | Ominous | yea, if out of lockdown |
| 12:10.33 | Qaarh | Nargiddley: is it possible to lock one specific bag in place somewhere apart from the other bags? |
| 12:10.58 | evl | Ominous: self:ScheduleLeaveCombatAction(function() frame:SetAttribute("state", 0) end) works I guess+ |
| 12:11.08 | Ominous | nono |
| 12:11.20 | Ominous | it wld |
| 12:11.25 | Ominous | but that is how i used to do it |
| 12:11.45 | evl | aha, you made an update :P |
| 12:12.24 | Ominous | ages ago |
| 12:12.45 | Ominous | in PRF:PoisonUpdate() dosent run if in combat |
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| 12:12.53 | Ominous | so in that function you are always out of combat |
| 12:13.07 | evl | Yeah but it's sort of annoying that if you apply a poison then popups don't disappear |
| 12:13.18 | Ominous | ? |
| 12:13.24 | evl | I was planning on calling HideFrames() from PoisonUpdate() |
| 12:13.34 | Ominous | you shouldnt need to |
| 12:13.44 | evl | maybe it's just in combat |
| 12:13.51 | evl | I'll just commit my shaman and offhand patch for now |
| 12:13.56 | Ominous | close will shut the frames in combat |
| 12:14.27 | alext | yah I *think* its you can close the frames during combat, but cant open them? |
| 12:14.33 | Ominous | no |
| 12:14.47 | alext | ah well I will shut up then so I dont confuse everyone ;] |
| 12:15.06 | Ominous | just the close button is a secure button to hide the frame to apply is a secure frame to use and you cant do both in one |
| 12:18.23 | CIA-32 | 03evl * r45630 10FuBar_PoisonReminderFu/ (Core.lua Updates.lua): |
| 12:18.23 | CIA-32 | FuBar_PoisonReminderFu: |
| 12:18.23 | CIA-32 | - Added "Enable Windfury in Raid" option which when enabled will suppress missing main hand poison warnings if you are in a raid with a shaman in your group. |
| 12:18.23 | CIA-32 | - You will no longer get a warning about missing off hand poison if there is nothing equipped in that slot. |
| 12:20.00 | mitch0 | elkano: why do you need metatables for that problem? |
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| 12:23.53 | CIA-32 | 03arrowmaster * r45631 10FuBar_TopScoreFu/TopScoreFu.lua: |
| 12:23.53 | CIA-32 | FuBar_TopScoreFu: removed the stupid 'feature' of autoremoving spells you don't |
| 12:23.53 | CIA-32 | know which caused all damage dealing talents to be permently ignored the first |
| 12:23.54 | CIA-32 | time you login after unlearning it, if you have any abilitys that aren't being |
| 12:23.54 | CIA-32 | recorded try purging them from the purge menu |
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| 12:25.29 | Elkano | mitch0, it gives me easy caching ^^ |
| 12:26.41 | Ominous | evl: is a frame is attempted to be reshown when its already been made all that happens is it has the new attribute set and state set to 1, it dosent remake the frame |
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| 12:27.51 | evl | Ominous: I was just thinking that the frames should be hidden if I'm swapped into a group with a shaman, I manually apply poison to one of my weapons or equip a fishing pole |
| 12:28.10 | pb_ee1 | Anyone knows how to make an analysis/action/... with an addon when the game exists? |
| 12:28.14 | pb_ee1 | exits* |
| 12:28.32 | pb_ee1 | I'd like to get the level number of the player and the contents of his bag |
| 12:28.39 | pb_ee1 | s/bag/bags/ |
| 12:28.52 | mitch0 | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:29.00 | Elkano | pb_ee1, maybe by event PLAYER_LOGOUT? |
| 12:29.16 | Elkano | mitch0, feel free to try it yourself ^^ |
| 12:29.24 | Ominous | evl: i ah, i see |
| 12:29.29 | mitch0 | like { orig = x, max = y, direction = 'left' } |
| 12:29.33 | pb_ee1 | Elkano: does it ALWAYS trigger when a player exit? I mean, if he clicks "exit" when in a city, when outside, and/or when doing Alt-F4 |
| 12:30.00 | evl | Ominous: but I'm a bit unsure on how to actually hide the frames before optionally showing them within PoisonUpdate |
| 12:30.40 | Ominous | ok well in PR:PoisonUpdate() add if Windfury then self.frames.Main:SetAttribute("state", 0) self.frames.Off:SetAttribute("state", 0) end |
| 12:30.48 | Ominous | before line 7 |
| 12:30.56 | Ominous | and then if you have been changed then they will hide |
| 12:30.59 | Ominous | else they wont |
| 12:31.16 | Elkano | I don't know but for a clean logout I think yes, for alt-f4 maybe not. but be warned that maybe the connection to the server has already been terminated at that point so some function may not work as intended |
| 12:32.15 | pb_ee1 | actually i only need local data so i don't mind if the player is disconnected |
| 12:32.41 | Arrowmaster | pb_ee1: if somebody does alt-f4 it doesnt matter because nothing new will be saved |
| 12:32.42 | pb_ee1 | but i need to have an event that let me know when he quits and moreover that lets me do a few things before the complete logout |
| 12:32.53 | pb_ee1 | Arrowmaster: you're wrong |
| 12:32.58 | pb_ee1 | Alt-F4 saves the SavedVariables |
| 12:33.08 | Ominous | yep |
| 12:33.16 | Arrowmaster | didnt last time i checked |
| 12:33.36 | pb_ee1 | I'm absolutely sure about it |
| 12:33.45 | pb_ee1 | the only way to not save your variables is a crash |
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| 12:34.47 | Hjalte | I hate crashing after setting up my UI :'( |
| 12:35.27 | pb_ee1 | a nice way to save your configuration is to /rl |
| 12:35.27 | CIA-32 | 03arrowmaster * r45632 10FuBar_TopScoreFu/TopScoreFu.lua: FuBar_TopScoreFu: adjust frame strata from low to high while I'm in here |
| 12:36.28 | Arrowmaster | messageframes below huds = annoying |
| 12:37.33 | Ominous | pb_ee1: i want to have the webftp thingy in public_html/ftp but have it point to root as public_html/pictures |
| 12:38.20 | pb_ee1 | you mean you don't succeed to put it in public_html/ftp? it only goes in public_html/pictures? |
| 12:38.35 | pb_ee1 | more precisely: root/ = public_html/pictures/ ? |
| 12:38.41 | Ominous | ya |
| 12:39.06 | pb_ee1 | try doing this: |
| 12:40.47 | pb_ee1 | just under the copyright notice, do $_SERVER['DOCUMENT_ROOT'] = "/<you_path_to_public_html>/pictures" |
| 12:40.54 | Ominous | ok |
| 12:41.09 | Ominous | well i cant this second as for some reason my ssh has been disabled |
| 12:41.16 | Ominous | but ill save that |
| 12:41.20 | pb_ee1 | yup |
| 12:41.26 | pb_ee1 | it's not a "clean" code, but it should work |
| 12:41.27 | Ominous | thanks |
| 12:41.53 | phyber | Arrowmaster: nice :) |
| 12:42.14 | phyber | Arrowmaster: I'm looking at a feature for TSF myself at the moment. But SpecialEvents-Aura docs are lacking. |
| 12:42.18 | phyber | trying to find a good example of it's use. |
| 12:43.28 | mitch0 | gaah. management is teh sux |
| 12:44.07 | mitch0 | they changed our CRT monitors to 17" TFTs 3 month ago, now they're changing some to 19" TFTs, but I'll be stuck with this 17" :( |
| 12:44.32 | Fisker- | :P |
| 12:44.48 | mitch0 | I'm thinking of some accident to happen to it |
| 12:45.13 | accolade | 'I thought that it was bulletproof' |
| 12:45.17 | Fisker- | that can easily be fixed |
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| 12:45.43 | Fisker- | monitors even have inbuilt degaussing |
| 12:46.14 | mitch0 | yeah, well, it's a TFT anyway, so doubt a magnet would have much effect on it |
| 12:46.18 | Fisker- | i agree with accolade |
| 12:46.34 | mitch0 | I need a method that cannot be blamed on me though ;) |
| 12:47.08 | mitch0 | there'll be a PC upgrade as well. I'm thinking of rigging the monitor in a way that it'd fall down and crash if they touch the PC case |
| 12:47.23 | Fisker- | what a shame! |
| 12:47.40 | cncfanatics | lol mitch0 |
| 12:47.40 | mitch0 | uh, oh, look what you did there... |
| 12:47.52 | pb_ee1 | Elkano: i found how to do it |
| 12:48.02 | Fisker- | noo |
| 12:48.08 | mitch0 | pb: problem 18? |
| 12:48.09 | pb_ee1 | you just have to override quit() and logout() functions |
| 12:48.12 | mitch0 | ah |
| 12:48.16 | mitch0 | nevermind :) |
| 12:48.18 | pb_ee1 | :P |
| 12:49.24 | Fisker- | loli haets bear |
| 12:49.27 | mitch0 | elkano: some of the later problems seem kinda tough at first reading |
| 12:49.50 | pb_ee1 | reab steah ilol |
| 12:50.21 | mitch0 | fisker is like a mental trashbin |
| 12:50.54 | Fisker- | indeed |
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| 12:52.39 | Hjalte | What is the lowest real item ID? Of an item that exists and is used in game. |
| 12:53.43 | pb_ee1 | humm |
| 12:53.50 | pb_ee1 | some ids have been removed but existed before |
| 12:54.17 | Fisker- | 25 |
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| 13:01.01 | pb_ee1 | ~fisker |
| 13:01.02 | purl | DISCLAIMER - The views of Fisker- do not necessarily represent this channel or its inhabitents. The Fisker- regularly browses 4chan looking for CP, or at least JB, and tries to convert more followers to his cause everyday. Please take everything he says with a grain of salt. We think he's just here to try and get more CP. - END DISCLAIMER |
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| 13:01.26 | pb_ee1 | Hooo ok I see |
| 13:01.28 | pb_ee1 | Thanks, purl |
| 13:05.04 | Fisker- | purl, gtfo |
| 13:05.04 | purl | Sorry sir, I won't bother you anymore. |
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| 13:06.56 | accolade | 4chan for ceepee, lulz |
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| 13:07.15 | Fisker- | you get B& too much |
| 13:07.47 | Fisker- | got a permban from 4chan for "requesting cp" |
| 13:07.48 | Fisker- | :P |
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| 13:13.36 | Pkekyo | anyone know if blizz has released a threat formula for Spell Reflect? |
| 13:13.58 | Josh_Borke | they haven't released ANY threat formulas |
| 13:14.17 | Pkekyo | any threat statements then? x) |
| 13:14.33 | sylvanaar | yeah, they release those all the time |
| 13:14.34 | cncfanatics | Pkekyo, what u mean |
| 13:14.55 | cncfanatics | reflecting a spell should give aggro equal to the damage the reflected spell did |
| 13:15.07 | Pkekyo | wether or not it actually gives threat, and stuff like wether it gives a fixed amount of threat, or equal to as if you cast the spell etc... |
| 13:15.20 | sylvanaar | unless its reflective shield |
| 13:15.24 | Pkekyo | yeah, that's my guess too cncfanatics |
| 13:15.47 | Josh_Borke | blizzard never gives specifics on threat except to maybe say 'this spell was causing too much threat' but never the actual mechanics |
| 13:16.25 | Pkekyo | ah |
| 13:16.39 | Pkekyo | that supports my theory then :> |
| 13:16.47 | cncfanatics | Pkekyo, easy to test |
| 13:16.59 | cncfanatics | first try on a mob that doesnt use spells |
| 13:17.03 | cncfanatics | activate the buff, nothing else |
| 13:17.15 | cncfanatics | and check how much a caster has to hit with his staff for before it gets peeled off |
| 13:17.20 | cncfanatics | thats the buff gain threat |
| 13:17.28 | cncfanatics | (remove 30% of course) |
| 13:17.34 | cncfanatics | then on a caster mob, reflect one spell |
| 13:17.38 | cncfanatics | and check again |
| 13:17.49 | cncfanatics | should be buff gain threat + damage dealt with spell reflect |
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| 13:21.09 | Pkekyo | yeah, I just pondered why nobody has coded SR into their threat addon :> |
| 13:26.22 | Fisker- | y u do dat? |
| 13:32.45 | cncfanatics | yoo sneaked up on me :( |
| 13:34.12 | Fisker- | that's not illegal :( |
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| 13:35.59 | cncfanatics | stabbing someone called Fisker- aint either xD |
| 13:38.26 | Ominous | :) |
| 13:38.27 | Fisker- | >:( |
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| 13:53.38 | Fisker- | "You can't do that while dead" |
| 13:53.39 | Fisker- | dhu |
| 13:53.41 | Fisker- | duh |
| 13:54.07 | cncfanatics | I bubbled while the shot was flying |
| 13:54.34 | Fisker- | well i bubbled while you were on that "and" |
| 13:55.36 | Fisker- | i had lag |
| 13:55.47 | Fisker- | so forbearance faded before i loaded |
| 13:56.18 | cncfanatics | no it didn't |
| 13:56.29 | cncfanatics | btw, there's an invisible mage with them |
| 13:56.43 | Fisker- | hammer of justice, jo! |
| 13:56.45 | Fisker- | yo* |
| 13:56.55 | cncfanatics | blink yooo |
| 13:56.57 | cncfanatics | kill yoooo |
| 13:56.59 | Fisker- | no |
| 13:57.03 | Fisker- | because blink = far away |
| 13:57.05 | Fisker- | and i run away |
| 13:57.07 | Fisker- | and horde kill |
| 13:57.08 | Fisker- | yo |
| 13:57.18 | cncfanatics | me is horde |
| 13:57.26 | Fisker- | then noone is killing nobody |
| 13:57.27 | cncfanatics | me is belf pallydan |
| 13:57.27 | Fisker- | O_o |
| 13:57.29 | Fisker- | <- |
| 13:57.30 | cncfanatics | lael |
| 13:57.38 | cncfanatics | :> |
| 13:57.43 | Fisker- | :D |
| 13:58.06 | cncfanatics | lets go kill some pink haired gnomes ? |
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| 13:58.41 | Ominous | pb_ee1: when i add $_SERVER['DOCUMENT_ROOT'] = "/home/ominou/public_html/pictures" i get Parse error: syntax error, unexpected T_IF in /home/ominou/public_html/ftp/index.php on line 24 |
| 13:59.11 | pb_ee1 | d'oh |
| 13:59.27 | pb_ee1 | try adding a ";" at the end of the line ;p |
| 13:59.35 | cncfanatics | roflmao |
| 13:59.55 | Ominous | dammit, |
| 14:00.48 | weab | yay for line endings |
| 14:01.50 | Ominous | pb_ee1: though now when i click on the file it tryes to open domain/file not domain/pictures/file |
| 14:02.14 | pb_ee1 | T_T |
| 14:02.29 | pb_ee1 | humm |
| 14:02.50 | Pheredhel | hi |
| 14:03.34 | pb_ee1 | aha ok i know why |
| 14:04.08 | pb_ee1 | i did not think about that: users would want to manage their FTP at an other place than their own website |
| 14:04.21 | pb_ee1 | so links will not be correct |
| 14:04.29 | pb_ee1 | i'll have to go through the code and check this |
| 14:04.53 | pb_ee1 | I will send you a tell when everything will be ok |
| 14:05.58 | Arrowmaster | what happens in lua if you do 'function foo(bar) local bar return bar end foo()' |
| 14:06.25 | pb_ee1 | nothing :) |
| 14:06.32 | haste | it returns nil regardless |
| 14:06.42 | Ominous | oki |
| 14:06.44 | Ominous | ty |
| 14:06.49 | Arrowmaster | what happens in lua if you do 'function foo(bar) local bar return bar end foo("asdf")' |
| 14:06.52 | Arrowmaster | fine |
| 14:06.56 | haste | still returns nil |
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| 14:07.00 | Arrowmaster | ok |
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| 14:07.07 | Arrowmaster | thanks for the help |
| 14:07.22 | Arrowmaster | time to fix another random bug in somebody elses addon |
| 14:07.35 | pb_ee1 | what if you do 'function foo() local bar="heyman" return bar end foo() |
| 14:07.46 | haste | guess! :D |
| 14:07.48 | pb_ee1 | '? * |
| 14:07.53 | pb_ee1 | nil? |
| 14:08.02 | haste | it always returns heyman |
| 14:08.03 | Arrowmaster | "heyman" |
| 14:08.04 | weab | HEYMAN |
| 14:08.13 | pb_ee1 | Heya everybody ^^ |
| 14:08.17 | Hed | Hi every1, I need help - how to make my addon search for Threat-1.0 lib and use it if it finds it? |
| 14:08.46 | pb_ee1 | (thanks for your answers btw) |
| 14:09.21 | pb_ee1 | Ominous: it won't be possible to do what you want |
| 14:09.31 | Ominous | ok |
| 14:09.40 | pb_ee1 | you cannot have a http link on a file that is not in your document root |
| 14:09.44 | Fisker- | oHaste! |
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| 14:09.45 | pb_ee1 | but you can download it though |
| 14:10.11 | pb_ee1 | i'll check if the file is in the document root. if it isn't, i'll remove the link to it |
| 14:10.18 | Ominous | k |
| 14:10.21 | mitch0 | hed: local threat = AceLibrary:HasInstance("Threat-1.0") and AceLibrary("Threat-1.0") |
| 14:10.24 | pb_ee1 | but i'll still let the download icon, because you should still be able todownload it |
| 14:10.34 | mitch0 | if (threat) then ... end |
| 14:11.04 | Ominous | pb_ee1: yea u can |
| 14:11.09 | Hed | k, ty |
| 14:11.29 | CIA-32 | 03arrowmaster * r45633 10Quartz/Mirror/Mirror.lua: Quartz: Mirror: probably fixed bug with mirror bar direction not being changeable |
| 14:11.39 | pb_ee1 | idea for an incredibly useless addon: an addon that would check if libraries are available, and if so, would return "true". |
| 14:12.00 | mitch0 | pb: huh? |
| 14:12.05 | pb_ee1 | UselessAddon:IsLibraryAvailable("Threat-1.0") |
| 14:12.24 | pb_ee1 | mitch0: nevermind, i'm just thinking how I could make an addon that actually does nothing usefull :D |
| 14:12.32 | mitch0 | pb: as in AceLibrary:HasInstance("Threat-1.0") ? |
| 14:12.56 | pb_ee1 | yes. but that's not as pretty as having a whole addon that does it |
| 14:13.02 | pb_ee1 | ^^ |
| 14:13.16 | mitch0 | erm, ok |
| 14:13.26 | Saroz | WTB SVN changelog |
| 14:13.27 | Saroz | kk |
| 14:13.32 | mitch0 | but make sure you do it with at least 1000 lines of lua |
| 14:13.42 | pb_ee1 | rofl, exactly |
| 14:14.02 | pb_ee1 | first you need to check if ace2 is enabled :D |
| 14:14.04 | mitch0 | oh, and don't forget to pollute the global namespace like hell |
| 14:14.24 | Dustwhisper | http://ace.pastey.net/71746 so what am i doing wrong here? battleHistory[n].participants always seems to be clear so im obviously fubar somewhere |
| 14:14.36 | pb_ee1 | that would be a so cool challenge: make an addon that works BUT that is horribly coded |
| 14:14.54 | mitch0 | pb: there are a lot of those around |
| 14:14.57 | pb_ee1 | and that would take a lot of memory, cpu, ... ;) |
| 14:15.02 | pb_ee1 | lol, true |
| 14:15.07 | mitch0 | well, most of them work "most of the time" |
| 14:15.37 | mitch0 | MapNotes was such an example |
| 14:15.39 | mitch0 | Distance2, too |
| 14:15.42 | mitch0 | probly others |
| 14:15.56 | pb_ee1 | I've tested mapnotes, but not distance2 |
| 14:17.05 | cncfanatics | its not a challenge to horibly code tbh |
| 14:17.16 | pb_ee1 | isn't it? |
| 14:17.29 | cncfanatics | nope |
| 14:17.35 | pb_ee1 | Dustwhisper: your raidnazi variable declaration is horrible imo |
| 14:17.39 | Hed | I am already making that kind of an addon - WF3sec... It's realy horribly coded |
| 14:17.41 | Hed | ^-) |
| 14:18.48 | Arrowmaster | Dustwhisper: eww at your table creation |
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| 14:18.59 | Hed | hedin has been kicked frome Ace2 devs :-) |
| 14:19.31 | Dustwhisper | yes yes yes it sucks |
| 14:19.36 | Arrowmaster | Dustwhisper: RaidNazi.currentBattle = { participants = { } } |
| 14:19.54 | Arrowmaster | but not on one line |
| 14:20.10 | mitch0 | also, tcopy should be local |
| 14:20.25 | Arrowmaster | yeah good point |
| 14:20.32 | Dustwhisper | Ok ill fix that up |
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| 14:22.22 | mitch0 | dust: but what exactly is your problem with that code? |
| 14:22.39 | Dustwhisper | RaidNazi.battleHistory[x].participants is always empty |
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| 14:22.57 | mitch0 | well, in that code sniplet you never assign anything to it, so it's no wonder |
| 14:23.03 | Dustwhisper | ehm |
| 14:23.15 | Dustwhisper | currentBattle is currentBattle.participants |
| 14:23.31 | Dustwhisper | so wouldnt the tcopy copy participants into battleHistory[x].participants ? |
| 14:23.53 | sb | whats RaidNazi? :o |
| 14:24.13 | mitch0 | in that code currentBattle.participants is also {} (empty), so still no wonder |
| 14:25.17 | Dustwhisper | it isn't |
| 14:25.22 | Dustwhisper | it's filled in another function |
| 14:25.33 | mitch0 | maybe the error is in there? |
| 14:25.40 | mitch0 | it fills something else? :) |
| 14:26.01 | mitch0 | that is a horrible name for an addon though in any case :) |
| 14:26.08 | Dustwhisper | no it's filled just fine |
| 14:26.19 | weab | uh. obviously not since it's empty? |
| 14:27.05 | cncfanatics | haha good point |
| 14:27.38 | weab | actually i'm just being an ass, i haven't even looked at the code |
| 14:28.04 | cncfanatics | nothing new there |
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| 14:31.58 | cncfanatics | ~framexm |
| 14:32.03 | cncfanatics | ~framexml |
| 14:32.03 | purl | get the official Blizzard Interface AddOn Kit here: http://www.blizzard.com/support/wow/?id=aww01671p or view it online at http://wdn.wowinterface.com/ |
| 14:37.42 | cncfanatics | ~api tremove |
| 14:37.43 | purl | http://www.wowwiki.com/API_tremove |
| 14:48.11 | Dustwhisper | wrath of the lich king confirmed wonder how much of the rumours about inscription, death knight etc is true though |
| 14:49.20 | weab | it's been confirmed |
| 14:49.40 | cncfanatics | blizzcon said it |
| 14:49.41 | pb_ee1 | weab: link? |
| 14:49.44 | cncfanatics | so I guess its kinda confirmed |
| 14:50.15 | pb_ee1 | i suppose we'll have to wait =) |
| 14:50.19 | weab | url + rating for leipzig + trademarks = confirmation |
| 14:51.36 | ramoz | There is still a bug with automaton and BG queueing. If you open a pane after you've queued it apears into the second spot, so you have open another pane to get it away |
| 14:51.49 | fireglow | leipzig? |
| 14:52.02 | weab | gaming show in germany |
| 14:52.08 | fireglow | ah right |
| 14:52.08 | fireglow | yeah |
| 14:52.18 | fireglow | go look into the worldofraids newfourms |
| 14:52.22 | fireglow | ru |
| 14:52.47 | Boubouille | worldofraids ? you suck. |
| 14:52.49 | weab | ramoz: i don't think i follow you |
| 14:52.57 | fireglow | Boubouille: no u |
| 14:52.58 | ramoz | ok |
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| 14:53.02 | Boubouille | no, u |
| 14:53.02 | ramoz | weab: ill try again |
| 14:53.16 | fireglow | Boubouille: no u. eofd. |
| 14:54.01 | ramoz | weab: when i queue to a bg with automaton, and then open my character pane, it goes into the second spot, like the bg window was still there, but you cant see it |
| 14:54.23 | weab | huh. cool. |
| 14:54.29 | weab | when did this start happening |
| 14:54.32 | ramoz | uhm |
| 14:54.36 | ramoz | some time ago |
| 14:55.00 | ramoz | it appeared around when s2 started |
| 14:55.08 | ramoz | i pvped alot then |
| 14:55.43 | weab | i'm pretty sure i've used it since then and don't remember any problems. but i'll look into it. |
| 14:56.11 | weab | i've been leveling a new character so very little battleground playing lately |
| 14:56.39 | ramoz | aha |
| 14:56.41 | ramoz | well |
| 14:56.42 | ramoz | to get it away |
| 14:56.50 | ramoz | i have to open a new pane at the same tiem |
| 14:56.56 | ramoz | i.e. social and character pane |
| 14:56.58 | CIA-32 | 03poull * r45634 10/branches/PallyPower/ (29 files in 5 dirs): PallyPower: Added support for normal blessings |
| 14:57.54 | Pkekyo | is it hard to port a non-ace mod to ace2? |
| 14:58.36 | weab | depends how good a job you want to do, and what the mod is |
| 15:01.19 | cncfanatics | Pkekyo, if a mod doesn't use ace most of the time its not worth porting it io except for saying "Its Ace", which is a pretty lame argument anyway |
| 15:02.34 | CIA-32 | 03oridan * r45635 10ShoutReminder/ShoutReminder.lua: |
| 15:02.34 | CIA-32 | ShoutReminder: |
| 15:02.34 | CIA-32 | - Fix some spell target problems |
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| 15:04.10 | ramoz | weab: also, make a check not to autores in bgs when you ahve HS? |
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| 15:05.38 | weab | soulstone? |
| 15:07.18 | cncfanatics | ankh could also work |
| 15:07.22 | dodgizzla | Hm, since some days Parrot seems to "lag", e.g. when I heal somebody their HP in PitBull goes up and about 0.5 to 1 seconds later the messages appears in Parrot :\ |
| 15:07.33 | ramoz | weab: err, yeah |
| 15:08.00 | Dustwhisper | meh |
| 15:08.07 | ramoz | i had a SS from last nights raid and was like "oooh" when i died, then i released >.< |
| 15:08.13 | Dustwhisper | this expansion announcement is gonna fuck over the guild I am inn as much as TBC did |
| 15:08.14 | Dustwhisper | goddamnit |
| 15:08.25 | Coruss | why? |
| 15:08.28 | weab | ramoz: i'm not worth soulstoning, so that's not something i had ever encountered :> |
| 15:08.43 | Dustwhisper | Last october we stopped naxx cause TBC was coming out and our GM couldnt be arsed with gear-reset |
| 15:09.04 | Dustwhisper | and he just now chatting is like "now we dont have to stress anymore with getting into hyjal/BT cause it'll only be a grearreset might aswell just relax til northrend" |
| 15:09.16 | Coruss | :P at least you got to see naxx pre-BC |
| 15:09.33 | Dustwhisper | yea but not the whole thing |
| 15:09.34 | Pheredhel | is there any fast way to find your own id in a raid? (i.e. from unitid "player" to "raid17") |
| 15:09.35 | Coruss | you know what, I hope they make northrend require hyjal/BT gear |
| 15:09.37 | CIA-32 | 03mysterix * r45636 10simpleMinimap/modules/movers.lua: |
| 15:09.37 | CIA-32 | simpleMinimap: |
| 15:09.37 | CIA-32 | - Fix for Capturebar in Movers Modul |
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| 15:09.49 | Dustwhisper | hehe they wont |
| 15:09.56 | Dustwhisper | i wish theyd make parts of it only accessible |
| 15:09.59 | Dustwhisper | by killing illidan |
| 15:10.06 | Coruss | like the raids? |
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| 15:10.20 | Coruss | they could... but then they'd screw over casuals even more |
| 15:10.34 | durcyn | so? screw casuals. |
| 15:10.38 | Codayus | Theres no guarentee there will be a gea reset, is there? |
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| 15:10.50 | Codayus | Or one as big |
| 15:11.14 | durcyn | doubt it will be as severe. part of the problem with t3->t4 was the whole stamina readjustment |
| 15:11.42 | Dustwhisper | 10 levels difference |
| 15:11.48 | Dustwhisper | the gear-reset will be noticble |
| 15:11.53 | Dustwhisper | *noticable |
| 15:11.54 | Codayus | Yeah, but even so, lvl 60 tbc greens had vastly higher ilvls than lvl 60 vanilla greens |
| 15:12.08 | Coruss | ya, to the point of being useful items |
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| 15:12.11 | dodgizzla | Hm, anyone has an idea why I get "spammed" with "no player named ... currently playing", although I don't whisper anybody? Any way I can narrow it down to an addon without relogging? |
| 15:12.23 | weab | i doubt it will be quite as crazy from tbc -> wotlc |
| 15:12.27 | Codayus | the level cap bump isnt where the gear reset came from |
| 15:12.50 | Dustwhisper | all the stats where increased |
| 15:12.56 | Dustwhisper | my spelldmg has over doubled from pre TbC |
| 15:13.01 | Dustwhisper | well around doubled |
| 15:13.12 | Coruss | so has the stamina on everything |
| 15:13.24 | Dustwhisper | yea |
| 15:13.25 | Dustwhisper | but still |
| 15:13.32 | jme | i was never 60 pre-TBC so i didn't get to uh.. experience that part of wow |
| 15:13.33 | Dustwhisper | i bet you lvl 80 greens will be like tier6 |
| 15:13.47 | weab | i don't think so |
| 15:13.53 | Coruss | didn't blizz say back when TBC came out that they wouldn't raise the level cap again? |
| 15:14.02 | Health | http://85.230.26.4/img/pitbull.jpg - Any idea on how to get the buffs/debuffs aligned? |
| 15:14.04 | weab | doubt that |
| 15:14.11 | Codayus | If top end epics are 10 ilvls higher than illidan loot....thats HUGELY different than what they did with TBC |
| 15:14.30 | Qaarh | Health: debuffs below the buffs? |
| 15:14.34 | Codayus | But it could go either way |
| 15:15.06 | Health | Qaarh: No.. I want the debuffs to start where the buffs start |
| 15:15.47 | Qaarh | Health: right, I'm at work right now so I can't check, but I know it's possible.. Check if you can unlink them from each other and position them from that? |
| 15:15.58 | Qaarh | Health: it's in the auras menu, iirc |
| 15:16.16 | Codayus | If I had to bet, Id guess for a very small gear reset...if any |
| 15:16.25 | Health | Yeah, I can unlink them but didn't get them to play ;p |
| 15:17.03 | weab | my bet would be definitely small reset. but not a big one |
| 15:17.19 | Codayus | Maybe 5-10 ilvls |
| 15:18.24 | Coruss | my dreamworld: no gear reset, no level cap increase, hyjal/BT gear required for new raids, new level 70 5mans/heroics without gear req's, |
| 15:18.25 | Codayus | Making lvl 80 greens be 15-25 ilvls above current lvl 70 greens? Or not, hard to guess what Bliz will do. |
| 15:18.54 | Coruss | basically the next xpac would be a paid version of the current 'new instances' but justified b/c of the new zones |
| 15:19.09 | Qaarh | Make Hogger a 25 man raid boss |
| 15:19.14 | Coruss | lol |
| 15:19.20 | jme | Qaarh: it is, if you take 25 level 1's |
| 15:19.48 | ramoz | i agree with you Coruss |
| 15:19.59 | ramoz | also |
| 15:20.08 | ramoz | attunement to arthas is killing illidan |
| 15:20.12 | Codayus | My dream - heroic naxx retuned for 25 max level people |
| 15:20.28 | weab | i hope they diversify their expansions more eventually. i want to see new low level content |
| 15:20.48 | Coruss | Codayus: they've already shown they don't care about the old world instances, since they haven't touched any of them |
| 15:20.55 | durcyn | Codayus: oh, god, i hope not. that whole dungeon was one huge cockblock |
| 15:21.05 | Saladin | I want to see somethin that noe even Nihilum is gonna walse straight through after like one friggin week |
| 15:21.08 | Coruss | I'd love to see MC/BWL retuned for 10 60s |
| 15:21.21 | durcyn | resist fights, gear checks, gimmick fights, no thanks |
| 15:21.31 | Codayus | Saladin: Awful idea. |
| 15:21.38 | Coruss | Saladin: the only reason nihilum 'walks' through the curent endgame is b/c they practice the crap out of it on test servers and know the strat before it ever goes live |
| 15:21.51 | Saladin | no they dont |
| 15:21.56 | yacoob | can't anyone practice it on test servers? |
| 15:21.58 | Saladin | They hardly use time on test realmd at all |
| 15:22.08 | weab | they don't do a lot on test realm |
| 15:22.13 | Coruss | ya they do, it was in an interview with one of em |
| 15:22.14 | Saladin | no, they are just good |
| 15:22.21 | Saladin | he said they spent 8 hours in PTR |
| 15:22.22 | Dustwhisper | no they don't Coruss |
| 15:22.24 | Codayus | They didnt walk through the curent endgame. (They also didnt spend much time on test.) |
| 15:22.24 | weab | actually it was in an interview tha they don't.. |
| 15:22.36 | Saladin | exactly |
| 15:22.45 | weab | 8 hours is nothing |
| 15:22.46 | Dustwhisper | what makes nihilum so successfull is that they buy enough gold to keep going, Kungen treats his members like robots, and the rules are stricter than a dad makes for his little girl |
| 15:22.53 | Codayus | People forget how fast KT died... |
| 15:22.57 | Saladin | they dont buy gold |
| 15:23.00 | Dustwhisper | they do |
| 15:23.01 | weab | what the hell does gold have to do with anything? |
| 15:23.01 | Qaarh | Time for food |
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| 15:23.08 | Saladin | stop making shit up |
| 15:23.09 | weab | who cares if they did? |
| 15:23.10 | Codayus | And dobnt realize the hours per week nihilium puts in |
| 15:23.11 | Dustwhisper | saladin |
| 15:23.12 | yacoob | speaking of which, any confirmed news from blizzcon? |
| 15:23.16 | weab | which i don't believe they do |
| 15:23.16 | Saladin | None of them buy gold |
| 15:23.17 | Dustwhisper | 2 of my REALLIFE friends were raiders in nihilum |
| 15:23.20 | Dustwhisper | and they bought LOADS of gold |
| 15:23.20 | weab | it's easy to make |
| 15:23.37 | weab | again. who cares? |
| 15:23.42 | Saladin | Well the leaders say they're not allowed to |
| 15:23.45 | yacoob | I like your accent on 'reallife', Dustwhisper :) |
| 15:23.50 | Dustwhisper | he |
| 15:24.01 | Dustwhisper | Saladin when they played it used to be an almost daily occurance in gchat/vt |
| 15:24.06 | Dustwhisper | chatting about buying gold |
| 15:24.10 | weab | WHO |
| 15:24.11 | weab | CARES |
| 15:24.16 | weab | what is the significance |
| 15:24.20 | Saladin | yeah, gold hasnt anything to do with it |
| 15:24.26 | weab | gold is near worthless |
| 15:24.26 | Coruss | I especially like the tense, 'were raiders in nihilum' suggesting maybe they got booted for buying gold |
| 15:24.48 | Coruss | true that |
| 15:24.53 | weab | and fucking cake to earn gold at that |
| 15:24.56 | Coruss | it takes gear and dedication to down endgame |
| 15:24.57 | kovi | how do you explain that every single caster dropped herbing for tailoring/enchanting and they still flasked up to the max on every boss |
| 15:25.03 | kovi | they HAVE to buy gold |
| 15:25.03 | Codayus | Post dailies abyhow |
| 15:25.04 | kovi | :o |
| 15:25.05 | Saladin | aye its a cakewalk |
| 15:25.27 | Codayus | and flasks arent hard to get now either |
| 15:25.27 | weab | bullshit HAVE to buy gold |
| 15:25.33 | Dustwhisper | he kovi i've always been tailor/enchanting |
| 15:25.37 | Dustwhisper | and can always buy flasks etc |
| 15:25.38 | Dustwhisper | buuuut |
| 15:25.45 | Dustwhisper | we raid say 4-5 hours 5 nights a week |
| 15:25.47 | durcyn | dailies weren't even in yet when nihilum cleared bc |
| 15:25.50 | Dustwhisper | not 12+ 6 nights a week |
| 15:25.51 | durcyn | so you fail |
| 15:26.11 | kovi | there's just no way they farmed the gold they spent |
| 15:26.18 | kovi | i play on the same server as nihilum |
| 15:26.25 | weab | that leaves 12 hours on the 7th day to farm up gold |
| 15:26.25 | kovi | and you never see anyone of em grind anywhere |
| 15:26.27 | kovi | ;> |
| 15:26.32 | Saladin | You can't say they HAVE to buy gold just because they can afford stuff |
| 15:27.04 | Chompers | curse you Dustwhisper |
| 15:27.13 | Chompers | i've not been in a 25 man for ages now |
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| 15:27.56 | Chompers | something about it being 'summer' and 'sunny' in a place called 'outside' |
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| 15:28.34 | Coruss | kovi: you don't need to farm gold to make it, there's daily quests that take minutes that put out piles of gold, and the chest drops that sell for tons, not to mention with their playtime they probly get plenty of BoEs |
| 15:28.39 | Pheredhel | kovi who says the farm on their mains ? |
| 15:28.51 | Dustwhisper | Why would you not |
| 15:28.57 | Dustwhisper | atleast for any damagedealer |
| 15:29.05 | weab | because if you know how to make money, it doesn't involve killing |
| 15:29.10 | weab | killing is for chumps |
| 15:29.17 | kovi | i'm speaking of the time before the daily quests were in |
| 15:29.23 | Pheredhel | dd perhaps, tanks and healers not |
| 15:29.29 | Coruss | AH farming, buy low, sell high, it's rampant everywhere |
| 15:29.34 | Dustwhisper | daily quests is not enough money |
| 15:29.47 | Dustwhisper | and AH farming depends highly on server and it\s timeconsuming tbh |
| 15:29.48 | Pheredhel | and they claim to actualy get money from instances once the learned it |
| 15:30.09 | Coruss | ya, if you're not wiping or dying, you can make money from instances |
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| 15:30.34 | Pheredhel | i think they had lots of time to get money from pre tbc |
| 15:30.51 | durcyn | most of you are talking out of your asses. i spend 30g in a wipe-heavy black temple progression raid, and i wear cloth ffs |
| 15:31.09 | weab | 30g is NOTHING |
| 15:31.18 | durcyn | it's more than i pull from mob loot, is the point |
| 15:31.21 | Coruss | 30g is 2-3 dailies |
| 15:31.38 | durcyn | you also fail to comprehend that nihilum cleared black temple before daily quests existed |
| 15:31.38 | Chompers | 80g a day for dailies |
| 15:31.52 | Pheredhel | let them spend 3k gold... 100 wipeheavy progressionraids... |
| 15:31.53 | durcyn | and i make 150g from daily quests now, yes, you can shut up about daily quests |
| 15:32.08 | Coruss | durcyn: read what you said, 'wipe-heavy', now read what Pheredhel said, 'once they learned it' meaning only one-two should be dying per boss |
| 15:32.12 | Pheredhel | dont think it took them that long to get the bosses on farm status... |
| 15:32.40 | Coruss | you *can* make money from raids if you don't die |
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| 15:32.43 | durcyn | you're still talking total bollocks |
| 15:32.52 | Saladin | fucks sake, why do you even bother discussing about another guild? You don't know what they do, end of story |
| 15:33.21 | kovi | there'S no way you make money on progression raids |
| 15:33.30 | CIA-32 | 03helium * r45637 10Capping/locals/localization-zhTW.lua: |
| 15:33.30 | CIA-32 | Capping |
| 15:33.30 | CIA-32 | - updated zhTW localization |
| 15:33.42 | Pheredhel | kovi: nobody claims that they do |
| 15:33.45 | weab | course not. but there's everything else you've already got on farm status |
| 15:34.01 | Pheredhel | just they dont need 50k gold to get an instance to farm status... |
| 15:34.11 | Coruss | I wonder how much gear they DE from instances on farm status... |
| 15:34.17 | weab | and in theory a very skilled and coordinated group shouldn't spend too long on any particular encounter for progression |
| 15:35.38 | dodgizzla | Arrowmaster: Your fix for Quartz works, as far as I can tell :D |
| 15:36.54 | Arrowmaster | cool |
| 15:37.20 | Arrowmaster | i didnt even get a chance to go ingame and see if i didnt break it |
| 15:37.38 | dodgizzla | Just tested it, everything seems to work fine. So thanks a lot :D |
| 15:38.06 | Arrowmaster | grow direction on free floating mirror bars actually go up now? |
| 15:38.26 | dodgizzla | Yes, created some with /quartztimer and they grew up |
| 15:38.48 | Arrowmaster | ill have to slap nymbia around for his silly little bug |
| 15:38.56 | dodgizzla | hm actually the get added to the bottom |
| 15:39.06 | dodgizzla | but as long they don't grow down it's okay |
| 15:39.09 | Arrowmaster | wah? |
| 15:39.16 | Arrowmaster | oh |
| 15:39.18 | Arrowmaster | ok |
| 15:39.48 | Arrowmaster | i dont really care since i put my mirror bar right above where the static popups are, i just want to be able to see them all dont care about order |
| 15:39.53 | dodgizzla | New bars don't get added at the top, but existing bars are moved up and the new one is added at the end |
| 15:40.21 | dodgizzla | Yeah, I've put the where the "You died. Rez?" popup is and they always grew under that instead of up :D |
| 15:40.32 | Arrowmaster | same |
| 15:40.34 | dodgizzla | err s/the/the bar/ |
| 15:40.46 | dodgizzla | Ah duh, yeah, static popups :D |
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| 15:46.07 | jme | so for the level 70 pvp rare sets, are there matching offset boots/belts/bracers? or are those just the veteran's gear? |
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| 15:46.23 | [dRaCo] | just the veteran stuff |
| 15:46.27 | RaydenUni | morning |
| 15:46.50 | jme | yeah... too bad the veteran matches S2 |
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| 15:47.22 | Antiarc|Work | YAYhttp://www.worldofraids.com/news/expansion/wolk.jpg |
| 15:47.32 | Antiarc|Work | Looks like we are indeed getting Death Knights |
| 15:47.33 | jme | need to farm the rest of my veteran's and a couple pieces of the rare set for the +35 res bonus before i do any serious arena |
| 15:47.50 | Fisker- | omg Antiarc|Work |
| 15:47.53 | Fisker- | MMO-CHAMPION.com :P |
| 15:48.04 | Fisker- | he was like 2 minutes earlier |
| 15:48.30 | Antiarc|Work | Hey, I'm just passing along the links I get from my friends. |
| 15:48.57 | Boubouille | Hey, the armory is still online Antiarc|Work |
| 15:48.58 | Boubouille | :D |
| 15:49.02 | jme | *New battlegrounds featuring siege engine warfare and destructable buildings |
| 15:49.08 | Antiarc|Work | Boubouille: I saw! |
| 15:49.19 | Antiarc|Work | Boubouille: I also just made a fix for funky character weirdness |
| 15:49.30 | Antiarc|Work | Turns out that setting the page to accept utf8 input helps; ) |
| 15:49.49 | Boubouille | btw |
| 15:49.54 | Boubouille | I don't know how long the armory will be online. :p |
| 15:49.59 | Boubouille | technically, it should survive |
| 15:50.03 | Boubouille | disabling it would be pointless |
| 15:50.24 | Matrix110 | you want to scan armory for new items from the "event" realms? |
| 15:50.28 | Matrix110 | or why |
| 15:50.52 | Cryect | Boubouille: i was surprised you didn't report on death knights sooner (the news had been leaked for a while) |
| 15:51.23 | Boubouille | Cryect : i didn't want to leak anything personally |
| 15:51.59 | Boubouille | I live 15km away from Blizzard HQ, I'm probably the easiest target for tons of legal things that hurt |
| 15:51.59 | Cryect | Ah hehe yeah I didn't say much except to guildies |
| 15:52.08 | Cryect | haha |
| 15:52.09 | Boubouille | and I hate when people hurt me |
| 15:53.00 | Cryect | I do like how bad ign's sources are |
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| 15:53.13 | Cryect | heard they reported it was going to be maelstrom or something |
| 15:53.55 | Cryect | anyways time to fix some bugs |
| 15:55.12 | jme | ~whalecrit Boubouille |
| 15:55.13 | purl | ACTION crits Boubouille with a mathematically skilled whale named Isaac for #NaN. Boubouille dies |
| 15:56.15 | dodgizzla | Is there a DogTag, that returns true or at least non-blank if one is in a group/raid? |
| 15:58.02 | weab | dunno about dogtag. rosterlib does that though |
| 15:58.43 | Cryect | RaidGroup seems to be the best |
| 15:59.09 | dodgizzla | Cryect: Yeah, but it does not work somehow. Or I do something really stupid |
| 15:59.33 | dodgizzla | [RaidGroup?NumTargetting:HideZero:Bracket] behaves reaaaaly strange |
| 15:59.35 | Cryect | (RaidGroup>0) ? |
| 15:59.51 | dodgizzla | E.g. Without the RaidGroup conditional it shows fine |
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| 16:00.09 | dodgizzla | But I'm in AV now, and with the conditional.. well, nothing shows, except when I target myself |
| 16:00.44 | Cryect | Oh wait dogtag you have to use one of those other tags |
| 16:01.07 | dodgizzla | What? :D |
| 16:01.18 | dodgizzla | Man my UI really is strange now |
| 16:01.19 | Cryect | So [RaidGroup:IsNotEqual(Whatever it is WHen there is no one)? |
| 16:01.27 | Cryect | followed by your other stuff |
| 16:01.36 | Cryect | when there is no group I mean |
| 16:01.36 | dodgizzla | Can't see party chat in AV, Parrot lagging, now that DogTag problem |
| 16:02.18 | Cryect | I think its just blank so [RaidGroup:IsNotEqual("")?NumTargetting:HideZero:Bracket] |
| 16:02.30 | dodgizzla | I'll try, thanks :D |
| 16:02.57 | dodgizzla | Does not work :D |
| 16:02.57 | Cryect | Prolly a better way of course |
| 16:03.03 | Cryect | haha |
| 16:03.09 | Cryect | what the hell is RaidGroup returning |
| 16:03.37 | dodgizzla | Uhm |
| 16:03.38 | dodgizzla | Actually |
| 16:03.49 | dodgizzla | Yeah I just put [RaidGroup] there |
| 16:03.50 | Fisker- | YES |
| 16:03.57 | dodgizzla | And it really does not return anything on people in AV |
| 16:03.59 | Fisker- | in 20 minutes the 550$ auction for the murloc suit ends |
| 16:04.02 | Fisker- | i could like snipe it! |
| 16:04.06 | Fisker- | oh wait |
| 16:04.07 | dodgizzla | Except for me and a warrior in my group |
| 16:04.08 | dodgizzla | wtf. |
| 16:04.12 | Cryect | So... I guess the issue is Dogtag |
| 16:05.20 | art3mis | a murloc suit? |
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| 16:05.25 | art3mis | blizzcon special thing? |
| 16:05.29 | Cryect | yes |
| 16:05.36 | art3mis | for 550$? |
| 16:05.38 | art3mis | good god |
| 16:05.44 | Cryect | haha |
| 16:05.58 | dodgizzla | Cryect: Yeah but maybe it's a battleground specific problem, too |
| 16:05.59 | art3mis | what would be more awesome is if it had charges ;P |
| 16:06.05 | art3mis | and after that it just vanished |
| 16:06.17 | dodgizzla | Because I don't now why I would not see /p anymore, although Party is checked in the options |
| 16:06.30 | dodgizzla | And when I check Party in another ChatFrame it also only shows the /bg chat |
| 16:06.30 | Cryect | there is no party chat in bg's |
| 16:06.39 | dodgizzla | Hu? I had one in AV earlier today |
| 16:06.44 | Cryect | except with the party's of the raid you were in before |
| 16:06.49 | dodgizzla | Aaah, probably because I was in a party before |
| 16:06.54 | dodgizzla | Duh. When did they change that? |
| 16:07.22 | Tuks | i have an addon idea, it may exist, its very simple |
| 16:07.36 | CIA-32 | 03oridan * r45639 10ShoutReminder/ShoutReminder.lua: |
| 16:07.36 | CIA-32 | ShoutReminder: |
| 16:07.36 | CIA-32 | - fix a bug with all of one spelltype expiring if you lose a buff of the same type. |
| 16:07.40 | dodgizzla | Man I got like 165 days /played and don't know stuff like that :D |
| 16:07.46 | Tuks | just a log that records whos targeting my target.. simple |
| 16:07.53 | dodgizzla | Tuks: Talk and thou shalt be replied! :D |
| 16:08.07 | Tuks | what?? |
| 16:08.18 | dodgizzla | Tuks: There is TargetCheck on wowinterface.com, that shows who targets your target in a small window |
| 16:08.21 | Coruss | lmao... dod I remember a warrior in my guild who was up to level 50 something, and didn't know he could sunder from battle stance |
| 16:08.30 | Tuks | yeah but i want to record that in a log |
| 16:08.37 | dodgizzla | Tuks: That was artistic for "Just ask and maybe someone will anser" :D |
| 16:08.48 | dodgizzla | Tuks: I don't know of an addon that does that :> |
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| 16:09.00 | Tuks | hum.. well |
| 16:09.19 | Tuks | jsut sendint to chat, or any window, when my target change targets |
| 16:09.27 | ulic | ThraeBot: !t http://starcraft.incgamers.com/gallery/showphoto.php?cat=512 |
| 16:09.28 | Tuks | the addon cant not me larger than 2 lines :P |
| 16:09.29 | ThraeBot | ulic: http://tinyurl.com/yryttf |
| 16:09.39 | ulic | early pics from blizzcon |
| 16:09.41 | dodgizzla | Tuks: You'd be surprised :> |
| 16:09.55 | dodgizzla | ulic: Photo not found in the database! |
| 16:09.57 | Tuks | hum.. is not there an event to do that? |
| 16:10.03 | ulic | doh, one sec |
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| 16:10.40 | ulic | ThraeBot: t http://starcraft.incgamers.com/gallery/showgallery.php?cat=512 |
| 16:10.42 | ThraeBot | ulic: http://tinyurl.com/3969lm |
| 16:11.30 | dodgizzla | Tuks: Hm, actually I thought there was an event for that, but it seems there is none |
| 16:11.53 | dodgizzla | Tuks: Ah duh, looked at the wrong place |
| 16:11.59 | Tuks | must be one |
| 16:11.59 | dodgizzla | "PLAYER_TARGET_CHANGED" <- e.g. |
| 16:12.05 | dodgizzla | Tuks: See http://www.wowwiki.com/Events/Unit_Info |
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| 16:12.17 | Tuks | lets see |
| 16:12.20 | ulic | not alot exciting, but I'm sure they'll get some better pics once things get going more. |
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| 16:15.33 | Amadeo | who plays a Mage and PvPs? |
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| 16:16.24 | dodgizzla | Hm that Goodie Bag looks nice |
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| 16:18.23 | dodgizzla | Am I the only one that finds it hilarious, that Blizzard needed over two years to implement some kind of barber shop? |
| 16:18.35 | art3mis | ? |
| 16:18.43 | art3mis | baber shop? |
| 16:18.47 | art3mis | err |
| 16:18.50 | art3mis | barber |
| 16:19.10 | Rccsv | Guess the demand for it wasn't high enough for them to consider it before. |
| 16:19.54 | dodgizzla | art3mis: mmo-champion quotes "Expanding character customisation options including new hairstyles & dances, the ability to change the hairstyles of existing characters, and new skin color variants" |
| 16:19.55 | durcyn | barber shop. as in GTA3. roll in with cornrows, roll out with a green afro. |
| 16:20.02 | dodgizzla | As a feature for the upcoming extension |
| 16:20.14 | Amadeo | oh wait, that's right |
| 16:20.22 | Amadeo | it's Friday, BlizzCon |
| 16:20.23 | dodgizzla | Rccsv: I reckon there was at least 1 thread for it ever since WoW was released :D |
| 16:20.28 | Amadeo | so what's the news? Hero classes were fake? |
| 16:20.35 | weab | death knight confirmed |
| 16:20.38 | Amadeo | really? |
| 16:20.41 | weab | yes |
| 16:20.41 | Amadeo | lame |
| 16:20.45 | art3mis | sweet |
| 16:20.51 | Rccsv | Confirmed as a Hero Class, or merely confirmed as a class? |
| 16:21.06 | Amadeo | adding one new class is gonna screw up game balance |
| 16:21.09 | art3mis | i can finally get Horde 4 Life cut i the back of my head |
| 16:21.10 | Killmore7 | *The dark, necromatic Death Knight - the first new character class added to World of Warcraft since its launch. |
| 16:21.12 | weab | i only looked at the link of a screenshot tha called it a class |
| 16:21.24 | Amadeo | where's the best place for info at BlizzCon? |
| 16:21.30 | art3mis | blizzcon |
| 16:21.32 | weab | doesn't mean it's not a "hero" class though. |
| 16:21.33 | Amadeo | lol |
| 16:21.35 | Amadeo | online |
| 16:21.40 | CIA-32 | 03poull 07poull * r45640 10PallyPower/PallyPower.lua: PallyPower: Corrected bug with spell not updating on player buttons (bug from original PallyPower). |
| 16:21.43 | Rccsv | weab, true. |
| 16:21.45 | durcyn | doubt it'll be hero |
| 16:21.55 | durcyn | i'd bet money, maybe even lunch |
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| 16:22.04 | weab | we'll see |
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| 16:22.22 | Amadeo | I think it's a bad idea :/ |
| 16:22.38 | dodgizzla | I wonder what the Death Knight is gonna be like |
| 16:22.42 | dodgizzla | Probably Paladin+Warlock |
| 16:22.51 | dodgizzla | Like, cannot be killed and one-shots everything |
| 16:22.55 | weab | dps/tank |
| 16:22.56 | [dRaCo] | yeah. define imba. |
| 16:23.02 | dodgizzla | Only available to players that have >300d played |
| 16:23.04 | Qaarh | Paladin+Warlock: Dotdotdotfearbubblehearth |
| 16:23.09 | Amadeo | Death Knight comes out, you will see 95% of Paladins quit or reroll |
| 16:23.18 | Amadeo | not to mention other classes |
| 16:23.23 | jme | i vote reroll |
| 16:23.37 | Cryect | You don't hve to reroll |
| 16:23.41 | Cryect | its just a quest |
| 16:23.42 | dodgizzla | Amadeo: Actually I don't think so. Since TBC came out everybody said all priests are gonna quit because pallies are so much better healers |
| 16:23.48 | dodgizzla | Bleh, didn't see anything like that |
| 16:23.50 | jme | what? |
| 16:23.54 | Mudkipz | LOl |
| 16:23.54 | Amadeo | dodgizzla: THey're not though |
| 16:24.00 | dodgizzla | In fact, we now have more priests than pallies in our raid :o |
| 16:24.04 | Mudkipz | I found a funimation tv on my new satellite tv |
| 16:24.07 | Amadeo | just different types, they both work well |
| 16:24.10 | Mudkipz | oh god the dubs! the horror! |
| 16:24.13 | durcyn | Cryect: there are conditions to unlock it for reroll, afaict |
| 16:24.20 | durcyn | Cryect: you don't just turn into one |
| 16:24.20 | Chompers | pallies can become death knights? |
| 16:24.24 | Cryect | yes not everyone can become one |
| 16:24.31 | Mudkipz | hi wrong chan |
| 16:24.43 | dodgizzla | Amadeo: Yeah, it's the same with this new class. Everybody screams in pain and horror how that will ruin their class |
| 16:24.51 | Cryect | you have to be at least a certain level plus a few other things which we will find out shortly exacts :-p |
| 16:24.53 | dodgizzla | And in the end, like 1% of the players will actually quit or reroll :P |
| 16:24.56 | Cryect | right |
| 16:25.04 | dodgizzla | Though 1% of 9 million is still quite a number :D |
| 16:25.07 | art3mis | deathknight would be pretty fun |
| 16:25.10 | Cryect | people bitch but often do nothing |
| 16:25.20 | art3mis | ya know what i realized playing my shaman recently |
| 16:25.32 | art3mis | compared to paladins shammys are weak |
| 16:25.43 | [dRaCo] | depends. |
| 16:25.45 | art3mis | paladins are so rigged it isnt funny |
| 16:25.48 | Cryect | paladins don't bring quite the group utility a shammy does |
| 16:25.52 | art3mis | on the 1-40 level range i mean |
| 16:25.58 | Cryect | for a single group shammys rule |
| 16:25.58 | [dRaCo] | shamans do more damage than paladins |
| 16:26.03 | Cryect | oh pallies are overpowered low levels |
| 16:26.06 | art3mis | yeah |
| 16:26.12 | art3mis | im talking below 60 |
| 16:26.17 | Qaarh | resto shamans do no damage whatsoever :( |
| 16:26.23 | dodgizzla | art3mis: A paladin kinda raped me yesterday. Repentance, 2k melee crit, hammer of justice, 2k soc crit, 2k judgement crit, 2k melee crit, me down |
| 16:26.23 | art3mis | i know at 70 shammys are scary dps |
| 16:26.32 | art3mis | wow |
| 16:26.34 | dodgizzla | I was like "Ok. I play the wrong class." |
| 16:26.36 | art3mis | thats a lot of lucky crits |
| 16:26.37 | Rccsv | My main concern is that the new levels are going to invalidate everything in TBC, which makes me wonder when they're planning on releasing WotLK. |
| 16:26.39 | art3mis | hahahaha |
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| 16:26.59 | Cryect | pallies if they get lucky to still like one shot you with a series of instanteous attacks that procced :-p |
| 16:27.05 | art3mis | the new levels arent gonna be donw til expansion again arent they? |
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| 16:27.49 | Amadeo | dodgizzla: PTR Warriors are MSing for about 3k |
| 16:28.01 | art3mis | the main difference betweenthe two classes at low levels is the damage reduction(shields) |
| 16:28.13 | art3mis | shammy dont really have any good way to get out of bad situations |
| 16:28.46 | [dRaCo] | we're lacking any CC, Anti-CC, Aggro Reduce and Escape Skill. :/ |
| 16:29.00 | art3mis | which are usually made worse thanks to that little totem that random picks its own firing range ;P |
| 16:29.20 | art3mis | well you have that earthbind totem |
| 16:29.26 | art3mis | i mean thats kind of helpful |
| 16:29.34 | art3mis | but nothing thats super good for running away |
| 16:29.41 | [dRaCo] | yeah... totally useless when there's a MS Warrior slashing you :> |
| 16:29.48 | art3mis | likepriest shield or pally shields or ice nova and the like |
| 16:30.02 | art3mis | they're still kind of fun though |
| 16:30.15 | art3mis | ive done priest and pally |
| 16:30.37 | art3mis | so playing a shaman again after playing the other two makesme have to remember that i might actually need to run away from things |
| 16:30.38 | jme | heh i had to trapkite the MS warrior around in the moroes room the other night |
| 16:30.39 | art3mis | heh |
| 16:30.40 | jme | that was fun |
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| 16:30.51 | jme | resist traps, FD, clothie dies... oops |
| 16:31.26 | jme | moroes without two priests for shackles is... interesting |
| 16:31.41 | Tornhoof | nah |
| 16:31.41 | art3mis | 2? |
| 16:31.44 | art3mis | heh |
| 16:31.56 | weab | two? |
| 16:31.59 | Coruss | pally should be fearing |
| 16:31.59 | art3mis | for shame not bringing mana batteries along ;) |
| 16:32.00 | weab | had none my first kill |
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| 16:32.17 | jme | heh |
| 16:32.18 | Coruss | priest = shackle, pally = fear, hunter = trap, kite the last one, and you're good |
| 16:32.34 | Cryect | locks can fear as well |
| 16:32.44 | Cryect | and you can have a tank tanking them also :-p |
| 16:32.44 | jme | so can priests :P |
| 16:32.53 | Coruss | ya but the pally won't go down in 2 hits if it resists |
| 16:32.54 | dodgizzla | Rccsv: You're playing an mmorpg, everything is bound to change by definition :D |
| 16:32.55 | [dRaCo] | kill the priest, done. anyone can tank those cloth adds. |
| 16:32.58 | jme | true |
| 16:33.05 | jme | yeah |
| 16:33.08 | dodgizzla | Or at least as long as they expand the universe stuff will change |
| 16:33.13 | Rccsv | Aren't Undead immune to Warlock/Priest fear? |
| 16:33.17 | dodgizzla | And actually that is a good thing, because it keeps the people playing |
| 16:33.20 | Rccsv | Or am I being retarded? |
| 16:33.36 | dodgizzla | What else would you do if you got "the perfect gear"? Quit wow? :D |
| 16:33.41 | Coruss | show off? |
| 16:33.49 | dodgizzla | I see :> |
| 16:33.52 | Coruss | wait till the next instance? |
| 16:33.55 | Rccsv | Coruss, exactly. Stand around in Org. :) |
| 16:33.57 | jme | i would just walk around shatt and /flex |
| 16:33.59 | dodgizzla | I need 13 Splinter of Atiesh to do so :p |
| 16:34.05 | [dRaCo] | "Use: Show how heroic you are!" |
| 16:34.18 | Coruss | see how difficult of an instance you can solo |
| 16:34.31 | Coruss | solo MC! it's only a matter of time! |
| 16:34.39 | dodgizzla | Coruss: I doubt it |
| 16:34.44 | dodgizzla | On second thought |
| 16:34.50 | Coruss | (still drooling over thunderfury) |
| 16:34.52 | dodgizzla | Druids would be able to with level 100 probably |
| 16:34.58 | dodgizzla | Druids can do everything |
| 16:35.02 | dodgizzla | Hate those bastards :P |
| 16:35.05 | Coruss | amen! |
| 16:35.25 | weab | don't hate on the druids |
| 16:35.33 | weab | it's not like we're warlocks |
| 16:35.48 | dodgizzla | True, they are bastards times two! :P |
| 16:35.48 | Mudkipz | druids can do everything |
| 16:35.56 | Mudkipz | not true |
| 16:35.57 | jme | Coruss: lol |
| 16:36.16 | dodgizzla | Mudkipz: Propaganda! |
| 16:36.30 | Mudkipz | don't forget you have to get appropriate gear for each spec |
| 16:36.36 | Coruss | weab: locks can't heal |
| 16:36.50 | Mudkipz | which equals lots of time spent |
| 16:36.51 | weab | um. drain life |
| 16:36.52 | dodgizzla | Coruss: They can heal themselves, more than enough :P |
| 16:36.52 | weab | duh |
| 16:36.54 | Coruss | druids can do caster dps, melee dps, tank, heal |
| 16:37.08 | Coruss | only thing they don't have in abundance is CC |
| 16:37.12 | Mudkipz | so its not like druids get it handed to them |
| 16:37.23 | Coruss | nothing is handed to any of us |
| 16:37.26 | weab | druid can only spec to do two of them well at most |
| 16:37.29 | Mudkipz | plus, druids were the do it all class since the beginning |
| 16:37.33 | dodgizzla | http://www.s126850528.onlinehome.us/hokuten/gallery/albums/userpics/10001/classbalance.JPG |
| 16:37.36 | dodgizzla | this is how it really is :P |
| 16:37.45 | Mudkipz | so don't hate on them because you choose a warrior/rogue/whatever class etc... |
| 16:37.46 | [dRaCo] | druids are great tanks, melee dds and healer |
| 16:37.47 | weab | the other two or three become either adequate or pathetic depending on your combination |
| 16:38.04 | Cryect | Rogues & Warriors are better melee DPS |
| 16:38.12 | Mudkipz | ^ yeah that's definitely true |
| 16:38.20 | Coruss | everyone has to spec something, which makes them better at a specific purpose |
| 16:38.33 | Coruss | my rogue routinely gets passed over in favour of imp leader of the pack |
| 16:38.37 | Cryect | Druids can't spec to be great meleee dps |
| 16:38.43 | Mudkipz | druids may be good at everything, but they are never better than the pure class |
| 16:38.49 | Mudkipz | thats not true for healing though |
| 16:38.57 | [dRaCo] | Cryect: yeah, but imp lotp is great. even awesome. |
| 16:39.01 | Mudkipz | because resto druids can definitely do more output than a holy priest |
| 16:39.15 | Mudkipz | maybe from all the raid damage in the raid instances for TBC |
| 16:39.17 | Mudkipz | hots are amazing |
| 16:39.22 | Cryect | Yeah but we often favor 3 rogues with a shammy/warrior combo over adding a druid to that party |
| 16:39.33 | [dRaCo] | uhm. |
| 16:39.37 | kebinusan | yeah, I give our feral druid to the huntards |
| 16:39.38 | art3mis | wow |
| 16:39.52 | art3mis | my wife just forwarded me a emssage from the it guy at her work |
| 16:39.58 | [dRaCo] | I'd go for MS Warrior, Enhancment Shaman, Feral, 2 Rogues. |
| 16:40.02 | Cryect | lotp adds less damage than than the 3 rogues all having the warrior/shammy |
| 16:40.14 | art3mis | appearantly he's concerned about the "pdf" viruses and will be upgrading the firewall to protect them from pdf emails |
| 16:40.19 | Coruss | true, but lotp makes it hella easier on your healers |
| 16:40.23 | [dRaCo] | yeah |
| 16:40.31 | Coruss | art3mis: seriously? |
| 16:40.36 | art3mis | coruss: yup |
| 16:40.37 | stavmar_ | art3mis: how serious are those viruses? |
| 16:40.39 | dodgizzla | Makes me wonder though. If we're up against Arthas this time, with happens with the next expansion and the probably last one after that? |
| 16:40.44 | dodgizzla | Whoohoo Kil'Jaeden! |
| 16:40.45 | art3mis | i know |
| 16:40.53 | Coruss | the old gods!! |
| 16:41.01 | art3mis | i almost wanna go there steal the contract and smack his little balding head |
| 16:41.03 | alext | the pdf spam is pretty nasty |
| 16:41.08 | Rccsv | I was under the impression Kil'jaeden would be with us before WotLK, based on what Kael'thas says when killed. |
| 16:41.12 | kebinusan | Uldum would be nice to see |
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| 16:41.27 | art3mis | alext: yeah but upgrading your firewall isnt gonna help again that ;P |
| 16:41.27 | dodgizzla | And what kind of mounts will they introduce |
| 16:41.29 | Coruss | maybe medivh himself? |
| 16:41.38 | dodgizzla | I can't travel with that shabby level 70 gryphon at level 80, can I |
| 16:41.40 | kebinusan | well maybe we get flying mounts in azeroth? |
| 16:41.42 | Rccsv | Indoor mounts. |
| 16:41.42 | dodgizzla | Maybe hover cars! |
| 16:41.49 | weab | what? medivh is dead |
| 16:41.51 | dodgizzla | Jet packs! |
| 16:41.55 | Cryect | Need to do stuff with the titans |
| 16:41.57 | alext | art3mis: depends on the firewall ;] more than likely your correct |
| 16:41.59 | Coruss | weab: CoT can do anything |
| 16:41.59 | art3mis | fighting in uldum wouldonly be good if they fixed that gay camera angle when fighting REALLY big things |
| 16:42.01 | kebinusan | Give me guild halls |
| 16:42.07 | weab | oh. you're talking about cot. |
| 16:42.09 | Coruss | player housing! |
| 16:42.12 | alext | however if its a new model of firewall, there might be support for detection of the pdf spam |
| 16:42.15 | kebinusan | nah Id rather have guild halls |
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| 16:42.19 | dodgizzla | Oooh, I'd like to attach laser guns on my frost saber! :> |
| 16:42.20 | kebinusan | trophies of bosses you kill |
| 16:42.21 | alext | such as a barracuda box |
| 16:42.21 | art3mis | alext: a firewall regardless of how good isnt gonna stop pdf emails ;P |
| 16:42.23 | kebinusan | other fun stuffs |
| 16:42.28 | Coruss | firewalls aren't responsible for filtering emails |
| 16:42.33 | kebinusan | I think individual player housing would be a bit much |
| 16:42.36 | Coruss | email servers and filters are |
| 16:42.38 | art3mis | if it stops email virii at all you're configured it wrong ;) |
| 16:42.44 | art3mis | you've |
| 16:42.55 | alext | firewall is an overly generalized term these days |
| 16:42.58 | Coruss | kebinusan: guild housing at least |
| 16:42.59 | alext | if its a true firewall, your right |
| 16:43.12 | art3mis | thats the only type i talk about ;P |
| 16:43.13 | alext | if its an IDS/IPS firewall, thats something else |
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| 16:43.25 | art3mis | well that and the firewall in most fieros so you don't burst into flames ;P |
| 16:43.34 | kebinusan | most firewalls these days are more like a mallet than a scalpel, IDS/IPS/Content Filtering/etc |
| 16:43.34 | alext | for instance, our Juniper ISG2000's are "firewalls" but they stop AV and have IPS in them |
| 16:43.38 | Rccsv | What's the benefit of guild housing to non-RP servers, beyond somewhere to stick the guild bank NPC? |
| 16:43.39 | Coruss | alext: I only use the term in the pure sense, it's a wall that says 'this door(port) is open and goes here, this door is closed, piss off) |
| 16:43.55 | alext | I gotcha |
| 16:44.00 | dodgizzla | kebinusan: I have to throw my gold somewhere... |
| 16:44.01 | Coruss | Rccsv: a hearth point that won't lag all to hell? and has portals to the major cities? |
| 16:44.05 | jme | dodgizzla: me |
| 16:44.08 | dodgizzla | I'm sitting on like 5k with nothing to spend it on :\ |
| 16:44.11 | art3mis | alext: junipers and the like dont count though as they are actual traffic filters that behave like servers |
| 16:44.12 | dodgizzla | It just gets more! |
| 16:44.26 | Rccsv | Coruss, so, a slightly quicker loading Shattrath? :) |
| 16:44.32 | art3mis | as opposed to a firewall meant to block ports |
| 16:44.37 | durcyn | egads, fred's at it again |
| 16:44.38 | jme | dodgizzla: find a way to get it to me |
| 16:44.38 | Coruss | guild housing is a wicked way to create a gold sink |
| 16:44.39 | Mudkipz | dodgizzla, would be cool if WoW had some kind of banking plan |
| 16:44.45 | Mudkipz | that nets you money |
| 16:44.48 | Mudkipz | like neopets |
| 16:44.50 | Mudkipz | ¬_¬ |
| 16:44.53 | jme | heh |
| 16:44.57 | Coruss | Rccsv: ya, that runs at > 15fps |
| 16:45.00 | art3mis | doesnt the isg stand for internet server gateway anyways? |
| 16:45.14 | Rccsv | Coruss, they'll probably add some reputation requirement aswell. |
| 16:45.28 | Coruss | Rccsv: ya exalted with home faction for the guild leader |
| 16:45.32 | dodgizzla | Mudkipz: Actually I'd like to loan it to other people, but there's no such way as securities :\ |
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| 16:45.51 | dodgizzla | err s/way/thing/ |
| 16:45.52 | Antiarc|Work | WoW Investment Plan = Auctioneer |
| 16:46.05 | dodgizzla | Antiarc|Work: True that :D |
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| 16:46.46 | alext | art3mis: integrated security gateway |
| 16:46.47 | Mudkipz | I do loan money to guildies |
| 16:46.51 | Mudkipz | I don't charge interest though |
| 16:46.57 | Mudkipz | maybe I should |
| 16:47.05 | alext | they are like combo boxes, The ISG 2000 is a fully integrated FW/VPN/IDP system |
| 16:47.12 | Rccsv | I did, before some guy managed to grab 5k for his Swift Mount and then delightfully transfer servers. |
| 16:47.33 | Coruss | Rccsv: guild wars had a really good guild housing system |
| 16:47.36 | dodgizzla | Mudkipz: Guildies is a different story, I'd give 'em money for free too |
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| 16:47.53 | Rccsv | Coruss, yeah? I'll have a look. |
| 16:47.55 | Coruss | you'd buy a specific style guild house, and then you could 'buy' various npcs to sit there |
| 16:48.01 | Rccsv | Ah. |
| 16:48.14 | alext | Coruss: same with dark ages of camelot |
| 16:48.14 | Rccsv | That doesn't sound too bad, I guess. |
| 16:48.18 | Coruss | like a banker, and a repair dude, etc |
| 16:48.19 | art3mis | yeah i meant security but typed server, heh |
| 16:48.26 | art3mis | ever do that? |
| 16:48.26 | alext | guild or personal housing, you could buy "consignment merchants" to sit at your house and sell items |
| 16:48.27 | Coruss | for WoW you could add pay-portals |
| 16:48.32 | alext | or merchants to sell portals to places |
| 16:48.41 | Coruss | nah |
| 16:48.49 | Coruss | I'd rather see a 5k portal to shatt that lasts forever |
| 16:48.51 | art3mis | think of a word say the word to yourself, then repeat the word its NOT and somehow your fingers decide thats the word you want to type? |
| 16:49.04 | alext | then u could just set your hearth to your house |
| 16:49.08 | CIA-32 | 03borlox * r45641 10NCHide/ (. Core.lua Locale-enUS.lua NCHide.toc bindings.xml): (log message trimmed) |
| 16:49.08 | CIA-32 | NCHide: |
| 16:49.08 | CIA-32 | - rewrote the whole code |
| 16:49.08 | CIA-32 | - added config GUI using Waterfall-1.0 |
| 16:49.08 | CIA-32 | - added more Frame-show options |
| 16:49.10 | CIA-32 | - fixed a bug with hyperlinks in the ChatFrames (links where not clickable) |
| 16:49.12 | CIA-32 | - fixed a bug with fading frames (fading works now, while UIParent is hidden) |
| 16:49.21 | art3mis | alext: you mean make wow more like the private servers? |
| 16:49.23 | art3mis | heh |
| 16:49.26 | Coruss | alext: ya and voila, city lag = fixed |
| 16:49.37 | alext | art3mis: i was just saying how DAOC did housing |
| 16:50.01 | alext | you could set your hearthstone to your house, then buy portals from your personal merchant to go around the game world |
| 16:50.05 | art3mis | alext: nods and thats how most private wow servers are configured ;P |
| 16:50.09 | alext | ah |
| 16:50.50 | Coruss | art3mis: is the merchant in a guild-specific zone tho |
| 16:51.58 | art3mis | well no |
| 16:51.58 | art3mis | but there isnt any other way to get there if you're not the right guild |
| 16:51.58 | art3mis | oh |
| 16:52.16 | art3mis | that IT guy alkso believes that you have to "shut down" usbkeys before you unplug them or you lose all the data thats on them |
| 16:52.27 | Cryect | hehe |
| 16:52.30 | Coruss | lol |
| 16:52.44 | Cryect | well if you pull one out while its writing to the FAT |
| 16:52.45 | Coruss | so he reads the MS popups and takes it for gospel |
| 16:52.50 | Cryect | you could mess up something |
| 16:52.59 | Antiarc|Work | art3mis: Nah, you don't have to do that |
| 16:53.08 | Antiarc|Work | art3mis: Just make sure you keep it pointed up so that the data doesn't fall out |
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| 16:53.16 | Coruss | Cryect: you can recover from that |
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| 16:53.30 | art3mis | anti: hahahahaha |
| 16:54.38 | art3mis | he also felt that it would be a good idea to restrict everyone from being able to make thier own directories |
| 16:54.40 | Cryect | Coruss: yes, but if you are the type of person to be worried about such an event you prolly don't know how to recover from that |
| 16:54.43 | thmo | was wondering, is it possible to make the wowaceupdater client use the default browser instead of locked to IE? |
| 16:54.48 | art3mis | which hinders the whole virus removal thing |
| 16:55.05 | thmo | adds wise |
| 16:55.18 | art3mis | she had a virus on her machines at work for 3 weeks because the anti virus was running as her and she didnt have local rights to remove or touch files not in "my documents" |
| 16:55.50 | art3mis | the it guy had to come down and login as administrator (hunched over and coveringthe keys with hishands while he typed the passwd) |
| 16:56.45 | weab | well it's not totally unreasonable to not trust your users |
| 16:56.52 | weab | especially if you've ever had to deal with users |
| 16:57.09 | thmo | BOFH :) |
| 16:57.17 | art3mis | hes not even a bofh |
| 16:57.20 | art3mis | he's just a retard |
| 16:57.21 | art3mis | ;) |
| 16:57.37 | Coruss | lol bofh haven't heard that in a while |
| 16:58.07 | art3mis | weab: but tell me whats the point of putting antivirus on a machine to stop viruses but NOT give the account permission to actually stop/clean the virii and to take 3 weeks to get around to clean it yourself because you're paranoid ;P |
| 16:58.26 | Amadeo | One of the lamest things I've seen in WoW yet...Druids in flight form can fly above the wyvern roosts in Halaa and change them over without ever being in danger |
| 16:58.26 | weab | art3mis: i wasn't trying to dispute that he's an idiot |
| 16:58.31 | art3mis | heh |
| 16:58.44 | Coruss | Amadeo: that sounds like a bug |
| 16:58.51 | Amadeo | it's on PTR, I wonder about live |
| 16:58.52 | Amadeo | haha |
| 16:59.05 | Coruss | no one should be able to cap a point while in flight |
| 16:59.11 | Amadeo | I agree |
| 16:59.28 | art3mis | weab: i deal with users all the time... ive told many of my clients.. just remember be smart cuz im expensive to fix your mistakes ;P |
| 16:59.40 | art3mis | weab: that seems to put them on better behavior ;P |
| 17:00.32 | art3mis | of course ive also used the phrase "before you do something think to yourself, "Will Art yell at me for doing this?" |
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| 17:03.10 | Amadeo | I need a frost Mage PvP spec |
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| 17:04.18 | Amadeo | Someone in here's gotta be good! |
| 17:04.36 | Antiarc|Work | Boubouille: You there? |
| 17:05.02 | Fisker- | was like 10 minutes ago |
| 17:05.02 | Antiarc|Work | http://wow.tachyonsix.com/picture004.jpg |
| 17:05.08 | jme | Amadeo: wowwiki.com/Mage_Spec |
| 17:05.20 | Antiarc|Work | I've got a buddy sending me pics from Blizzcon via camera. Was gonna see if he'd want any of 'em :) |
| 17:05.38 | deltron | whoaaaa |
| 17:05.42 | Fisker- | Diablo 3 Antiarc|Work? :P |
| 17:05.50 | Antiarc|Work | *shrug* |
| 17:05.52 | jme | Antiarc|Work: hot chicks dressed as blood elves? |
| 17:05.53 | Antiarc|Work | I suspect that's the Deathknight |
| 17:05.56 | Boubouille | Antiarc|Work : will add |
| 17:05.59 | Boubouille | ty |
| 17:05.59 | Fisker- | oh |
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| 17:06.15 | deltron | that is awesome |
| 17:06.19 | Fisker- | ah also the usual warcraft paper background |
| 17:06.41 | Antiarc|Work | Boubouille: If you want to credit someone, the source is TheLazarus |
| 17:06.56 | Antiarc|Work | Also, blurry, but http://wow.tachyonsix.com/img05a5.jpg |
| 17:07.14 | Amadeo | Antiarc|Work: Charge him $100 a pic! |
| 17:07.15 | deltron | another pic of that book! |
| 17:07.51 | Fisker- | kinda useless Antiarc|Work :P |
| 17:07.54 | jme | "mighty new powers and talents" - warlocks fear buffed to 30 secs |
| 17:07.55 | Fisker- | it's the other side we want |
| 17:08.02 | Fisker- | nono |
| 17:08.10 | Fisker- | Death Knight fear - 1 minute duration |
| 17:08.11 | Antiarc|Work | Improved Unstable Affliction |
| 17:08.14 | Fisker- | in pvp |
| 17:08.14 | jme | lol |
| 17:08.16 | Fisker- | 10 minutes in pve |
| 17:08.24 | Fisker- | also does not break on damage |
| 17:08.27 | Fisker- | WC3 style |
| 17:08.44 | jme | death knight Death Glance - instagibbed as soon as something is targetted |
| 17:09.08 | Antiarc|Work | MS Aura - Reduces healing on all enemies within 30 yards by 50% |
| 17:09.15 | jme | lol |
| 17:09.17 | Amadeo | Antiarc|Work: On what?? |
| 17:09.22 | Mudkipz | ms aura |
| 17:09.24 | Antiarc|Work | Amadeo: I'm joking :P |
| 17:09.25 | Mudkipz | that's imba |
| 17:09.27 | Amadeo | hahahahah |
| 17:09.52 | Mudkipz | its like giving death knight that shadow damage aura that mobs have in arcatraz |
| 17:10.01 | Antiarc|Work | Death and Decay |
| 17:10.06 | Mudkipz | death and decay would be hot |
| 17:10.07 | Antiarc|Work | Which they had in the previous WC games |
| 17:10.08 | Mudkipz | I agree |
| 17:10.34 | Amadeo | where's the portal trainer in shattrath? lol |
| 17:10.49 | Mudkipz | at the portals? |
| 17:10.52 | Mudkipz | lol |
| 17:10.55 | Amadeo | that's a good thought |
| 17:11.00 | NeoTron | finally killed leotheras again. |
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| 17:16.56 | RaydenUni | http://www.wowwiki.com/Tuskarr <-- where are the Tuskarr in wow? |
| 17:17.38 | jme | so basically, you do have to have a high level paladin to roll a death knight? |
| 17:17.45 | deltron | no |
| 17:17.51 | RaydenUni | oh, northrend right |
| 17:17.52 | deltron | not been announced yet |
| 17:17.55 | jme | ahh |
| 17:18.03 | RaydenUni | 'bout 2 hours till the announcement |
| 17:18.28 | todd | bah.. 'bout 45 minutes till work |
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| 17:21.46 | NeoTron | so I just got my 2piece tier 5 |
| 17:21.52 | NeoTron | that'd be pretty slick for pvp methinks |
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| 17:22.31 | NeoTron | although I'm now not quite sure if I like the change in PTR from healing pet 30% of my heals vs healing pet for 15% of my dmg done |
| 17:22.48 | NeoTron | the latter is better for soloing and for some raid bosses but overall the current version is better |
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| 17:25.28 | RaydenUni | how many expansions do you think wow can have before they make wow 2? |
| 17:25.38 | Amadeo | many |
| 17:25.44 | Amadeo | I don't think they will make a WoW2 for a LONG time |
| 17:25.52 | Amadeo | they'll just expand on WoW and upgrade the engine if needed |
| 17:27.27 | NeoTron | they will not make WoW2 most likely |
| 17:27.34 | NeoTron | more likely is a diablo or starcraft mmo |
| 17:27.38 | Rccsv | Someone wrote somewhere that what should happen was some massive patch will come through unexpectedly, you'll boot up, watch some ridiculous cinematic and "3000 Years later..." will appear, just before "World of Starcraft!". |
| 17:27.51 | NeoTron | starcraft 2 being the vessel tht leads to starcraft mmo I'm sure |
| 17:28.17 | Amadeo | brb |
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| 17:28.21 | Stan__ | *The dark, necromatic Death Knight - the first new character class added to World of Warcraft since its launch. |
| 17:28.21 | Stan__ | *Northrend, the harsh, icy continent where the Lich King holds rule, complete with new zones, quests, items and monsters. |
| 17:28.21 | Stan__ | *New level cap of 80 providing access to mighty new powers and talents |
| 17:28.21 | Stan__ | *New battlegrounds featuring siege engine warfare and destructable buildings |
| 17:28.21 | Stan__ | *Expanding character customisation options including new hairstyles & dances, the ability to change the hairstyles of existing characters, and new skin color variants. |
| 17:28.33 | Stan__ | I can change my Hair, YAY! :p |
| 17:28.36 | durcyn | biggest feature gonna be the salons |
| 17:28.45 | durcyn | new hairstylist profession |
| 17:28.55 | jme | you know, we can read the link :) |
| 17:28.58 | NeoTron | I wonder how death knights will work |
| 17:29.11 | Fisker- | gonna get raepd |
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| 17:29.23 | rubik | new level cap of 80.. whee... level 71 greens will pwn your purplez... again. |
| 17:29.24 | RaydenUni | i think it's kind of lame they include being able to change your hair in the same set of features as a new class... |
| 17:30.00 | Wogroipl_ | tattoos that give you stats :D |
| 17:30.09 | jme | NOS stickers |
| 17:30.14 | Wogroipl_ | that would rock |
| 17:30.15 | RaydenUni | GW had tattoo armor |
| 17:30.27 | Wogroipl_ | yeah, I love that |
| 17:31.41 | Stan__ | seen that? http://www.mmo-champion.com/images/news/2007/july/wolk_large.jpg |
| 17:31.43 | durcyn | hey, i've been wanting to get rid of this damn gnomish unibrow for almost three years |
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| 17:34.01 | NeoTron | I wonder if they will waste less content and make heroic versions of the current dungeons >:-) |
| 17:34.02 | Antiarc|Work | http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1034/998189960_9a2175f0e9.jpg?v=0 <-- in-game Death Knight |
| 17:34.12 | NeoTron | like heroic 25-mans to keep them valid at level 80. that'd be nice |
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| 17:34.22 | NeoTron | Antiarc|Work: lol |
| 17:35.27 | durcyn | NeoTron: why? it's already old |
| 17:35.46 | durcyn | i don't want to be killing illidan in a year |
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| 17:40.53 | art3mis | making the old world instances heroic would be awesome |
| 17:41.26 | pastamancer | heroic goelmagg would still be a snorefest |
| 17:41.38 | jme | Antiarc|Work: wow. |
| 17:42.10 | art3mis | [2. Trade] Professional Stylist looking for work! Can do [Beehive] [Wave] [Feathering] PST for more info! |
| 17:42.28 | rubik | haha |
| 17:42.34 | deltron | I love the comment made on mmo-champion |
| 17:42.40 | deltron | with added skill: lisp |
| 17:42.49 | rubik | lol |
| 17:42.49 | art3mis | hah |
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| 17:43.36 | art3mis | Deltron says [With Lisp] Thath thuper thankth for athking. |
| 17:44.02 | deltron | ! |
| 17:44.42 | jme | haha |
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| 17:48.11 | NeoTron | durcyn: because I never get to go to naxxramas really (well killed 5 bosses)... |
| 17:48.23 | durcyn | NeoTron: it's old, it's over, it's done, move on |
| 17:48.25 | NeoTron | if you're not at the leading edge of content you simply miss it |
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| 17:48.50 | art3mis | "it has long been said that if AT&T bought KFC they would marketit as "hot dead barnyard fowl" |
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| 17:49.47 | Fin | godammit I hate it when my net access goes down |
| 17:50.01 | Stan__ | http://www.worldofraids.com/news/expansion/leaflet.jpg |
| 17:50.35 | *** part/#wowace Gnancy (n=gnancysa@adsl-065-082-190-025.sip.bct.bellsouth.net) |
| 17:50.56 | Fisker- | don't link that site |
| 17:50.57 | Fisker- | :( |
| 17:51.05 | Stan__ | why not? :P |
| 17:51.13 | Fisker- | because it sucks :/ |
| 17:51.14 | Fisker- | http://www.conquest-guild.com/nimloth/leaflet.jpg |
| 17:51.18 | Fisker- | is the source anyways |
| 17:52.14 | NeoTron | I sure hope you'll be able to use flying mounts in northrend |
| 17:52.27 | RaydenUni | does it seem to anyone else that blizzard is adding bosses and dungeons without regard to what it's doing to the story? |
| 17:52.46 | NeoTron | heck would be cool if flightpaths were few and far inbetween |
| 17:52.52 | NeoTron | RaydenUni: no |
| 17:53.17 | Amadeo | Does anyone actually even know the story? |
| 17:53.37 | RaydenUni | i know some from war3, never played the earlier ones |
| 17:53.54 | RaydenUni | but if we kill all the baddies in wow, who do we fight in war4? |
| 17:53.56 | Amadeo | I know I don't know it! |
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| 17:54.17 | Amadeo | Warlocks |
| 17:54.24 | NeoTron | RaydenUni: heard about the concept "new boss"? |
| 17:54.33 | RaydenUni | ? |
| 17:54.35 | NeoTron | besides, at least kael'thas is not killed |
| 17:54.47 | RaydenUni | illidan died |
| 17:54.49 | NeoTron | they can add new bosses Rayden. and who says there will be a war 4? |
| 17:54.51 | Dustwhisper | they better release some info on gear/resets |
| 17:55.02 | RaydenUni | NeoTron the same people who said Starcraft 2 would come |
| 17:55.20 | Amadeo | StarCraft 2 is the same game as StarCraft, though |
| 17:55.22 | Amadeo | haha |
| 17:55.32 | NeoTron | omg warcraft world didn't work who do we fight in the first warcraft RTS? it's unpossible! |
| 17:55.35 | Amadeo | So War4 will just have new graphics :P |
| 17:55.36 | NeoTron | seriously.. err? wtf? |
| 17:55.56 | RaydenUni | war3 wasn't at all like war2 or starcraft |
| 17:56.19 | RaydenUni | although originaly it was orcs in space |
| 17:56.38 | NeoTron | if they make a war4 it might very well take place in outlands beginning with the reopening, then into various current situations |
| 17:56.40 | pastamancer | haha, starcraft the board game?! http://www.wowinsider.com/photos/blizzcon-exhibit-hall-first-look/337227/ |
| 17:56.43 | NeoTron | what's so hard about it? |
| 17:56.57 | RaydenUni | beginning with the reopening? so you replay wow? no that won't happen |
| 17:57.04 | RaydenUni | pastamancer old news |
| 17:57.12 | pastamancer | first I had heard of it |
| 17:57.23 | Amadeo | pastamancer: I like the guy on the right |
| 17:57.25 | Amadeo | he's so excited |
| 17:57.29 | RaydenUni | i haven't seen any pictures of it yet though |
| 17:57.31 | Amadeo | "WHOA!" |
| 17:57.44 | RaydenUni | http://boardgamegeek.com/game/22827 |
| 17:58.49 | NeoTron | RaydenUni: I think you're just being silly |
| 17:58.50 | RaydenUni | how does one become a death knight in warcraft lore? fallen paladin or what? |
| 17:58.56 | RaydenUni | silly? |
| 17:58.59 | RaydenUni | how so? |
| 17:59.29 | Amadeo | lol, looking through these photos...looks like more of a way to sell stuff than a convention :P |
| 18:00.30 | Amadeo | Welcome to BlizzCon! Please, buy a Zboard! |
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| 18:01.02 | Amadeo | http://www.blogsmithmedia.com/www.wowinsider.com/media/2007/08/img_1505.jpg |
| 18:01.04 | Amadeo | Nice Rogue outfit |
| 18:01.09 | NeoTron | because, obviosuly, blizzard will be able to do whatever is needed |
| 18:01.47 | NeoTron | and being concerned that there will be "no boss" to kill in a possible new RTS... |
| 18:01.59 | Fisker- | WANT Amadeo |
| 18:02.00 | NeoTron | maybe they will just make you go kill boars and stuff to level your rts people |
| 18:02.02 | NeoTron | that'd do it |
| 18:02.12 | Amadeo | Fisker-: Yeah, I wonder who's Backstabbing her! |
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| 18:02.21 | Fisker- | lol |
| 18:02.25 | NeoTron | Fisker-: the costume or the contents? |
| 18:02.37 | Fisker- | the contents |
| 18:02.52 | Fisker- | http://www.giga.de/2/live/free/ it's up |
| 18:02.55 | Antiarc|Work | Giga stream's up |
| 18:03.03 | Amadeo | hah |
| 18:03.12 | RaydenUni | in War3 arthas becomes a death knight. pretty epic stuff and i would expect war3 to have no less |
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| 18:03.29 | Fisker- | mikes name is silly |
| 18:03.34 | Fisker- | morHINE? |
| 18:03.35 | Fisker- | :( |
| 18:03.38 | Amadeo | I can't even get to giga.de |
| 18:03.40 | Fisker- | should be morHANE |
| 18:04.18 | art3mis | fisker: morhine == more hiney |
| 18:04.44 | Fisker- | but it's spelled morhaine |
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| 18:06.25 | Fisker- | lol |
| 18:06.26 | Fisker- | lolol |
| 18:06.37 | Fisker- | people have flown in from as far away as europe :P |
| 18:06.42 | Fisker- | asia motherfucker, do you know it? :P |
| 18:07.03 | Fisker- | although you could say that the world is round :o |
| 18:07.04 | sylvanaar | asia is not that far from SF |
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| 18:09.00 | Amadeo | San Fransisco |
| 18:09.25 | Amadeo | Everyone eats Rice-A-Roni there |
| 18:09.26 | sylvanaar | Yes |
| 18:09.36 | sylvanaar | see what i mean |
| 18:09.55 | Ominous | Fin: did you get that thing working from earlier? |
| 18:09.57 | sylvanaar | they are half asian already |
| 18:10.01 | Amadeo | haha |
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| 18:11.12 | sylvanaar | makes me want korean bbq |
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| 18:14.20 | NeoTron | http://127.0.0.1:6498/ms/asf/EPGIGA.giga350/Octoshape?MSWMExt=.asf <-- the link on mmo-champion doesn't seem to work :( |
| 18:14.40 | Boubouille | it does, just insist |
| 18:14.40 | sylvanaar | oh nice link |
| 18:14.44 | Fisker- | just use http://www.giga.de/2/live/free/ |
| 18:14.47 | Athou | 127.0.0.1? :D |
| 18:14.51 | Fisker- | and install octoshape btw |
| 18:14.57 | Killmore7 | nice link with 127.0.0.1 :P |
| 18:15.19 | Cartas | What's Octoshape? |
| 18:15.27 | deltron | lol |
| 18:15.29 | deltron | yeah |
| 18:15.33 | deltron | I just noticed that also |
| 18:16.26 | Fisker- | still no Diablo 3 trailer though |
| 18:16.32 | Fisker- | and now they're showing SC2 |
| 18:17.12 | deltron | boooring |
| 18:17.20 | Amadeo | what's Octoshape? |
| 18:17.25 | Cartas | lol |
| 18:17.30 | jme | or use http://nihilum.wazap.com/news/80/ if the giga one doesnt' work |
| 18:17.34 | jme | octoshape is a plugin |
| 18:17.37 | Fisker- | jme it's the same shit |
| 18:17.41 | Fisker- | no point in linking nihilum |
| 18:17.48 | Cartas | Yeh, jme... |
| 18:17.54 | jme | *shrug* the giga guys said the page was down |
| 18:17.57 | CIA-32 | 03evilelvis * r45646 10eePanels/core.lua: eePanels: fix for panels not sorting correctly by number in dewdrop panel |
| 18:18.12 | Fisker- | :( |
| 18:18.19 | Amadeo | I can't believe I'm about to install something called Octoshape on my computer |
| 18:18.26 | Saroz | REQUIRES JAVA |
| 18:18.27 | Fisker- | actually the first stream sourrounding something big i've actually been able to see |
| 18:18.28 | Saroz | eeeeek |
| 18:18.35 | Fisker- | me neither Amadeo |
| 18:19.01 | Amadeo | I'll be removing it shortly after |
| 18:19.02 | Amadeo | rofl |
| 18:19.30 | Kyahx | the two channels they list aren't working for me |
| 18:20.42 | RaydenUni | nothing tells me ihave to install something |
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| 18:21.48 | Fisker- | ooh |
| 18:21.57 | Fisker- | shit's about to hit the fan |
| 18:21.59 | Amadeo | working |
| 18:22.02 | Kyahx | x-pac time? :P |
| 18:22.09 | Antiarc|Work | x-pac time. |
| 18:22.12 | Amadeo | why doesn't he just wear glasses if he can't see? |
| 18:22.23 | Fisker- | good symmetry though |
| 18:22.28 | Fisker- | "shit's about to hit the fan" |
| 18:22.34 | Amadeo | lol |
| 18:22.37 | Fisker- | "Holy crap all these people" |
| 18:22.38 | Fisker- | :P |
| 18:22.40 | Kyahx | ah, they're showing the same stuff on EPGIGA.giga350 if the two they list don't work |
| 18:22.40 | Amadeo | the shirts look like bowling shirts |
| 18:22.45 | Kyahx | that channel is working for me |
| 18:22.52 | Fisker- | BAH |
| 18:22.55 | Fisker- | DIABLO 3 PLZ |
| 18:23.04 | jme | http://i130.photobucket.com/albums/p266/onecoolshe/offhand.jpg |
| 18:23.06 | Amadeo | hahahah |
| 18:23.23 | Amadeo | Is there more than one stream? This guy is talking about voice chat and guild banks |
| 18:23.28 | Fisker- | WANT jme |
| 18:23.33 | Fisker- | again, the contents. |
| 18:23.44 | Fisker- | Amadeo no they just changed speakers |
| 18:23.48 | Amadeo | ok |
| 18:24.10 | deltron | jme: lol |
| 18:24.13 | Amadeo | haha |
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| 18:24.35 | Fisker- | is he insulting our sense of fashion? :( |
| 18:24.41 | Amadeo | wtf |
| 18:24.43 | Amadeo | haha |
| 18:24.46 | Cartas | What sense of fashion? |
| 18:24.47 | Cartas | Hohoho! |
| 18:24.48 | jme | hahaha |
| 18:24.48 | Fisker- | lol |
| 18:24.52 | jme | triple the size of orc shoulderpads |
| 18:24.55 | Kyahx | tripple the size of shoulderpads, oh yay... |
| 18:25.00 | Antiarc|Work | Hahahah |
| 18:25.10 | Amadeo | Boubouille has |
| 18:25.17 | Amadeo | hahaha |
| 18:25.20 | Amadeo | owned |
| 18:25.23 | Fisker- | rofl |
| 18:25.24 | jme | haha |
| 18:25.27 | Fisker- | your accounts are all banned |
| 18:25.27 | Fisker- | :D |
| 18:25.31 | jme | <3 |
| 18:25.37 | Antiarc|Work | Hahahaha |
| 18:25.40 | Antiarc|Work | Awesome |
| 18:25.46 | Fisker- | that was a priceless moment |
| 18:26.20 | Amadeo | oh noes |
| 18:26.28 | deltron | jme: dude the skulls on the shoulders light up |
| 18:26.39 | Amadeo | Ok, skip the PvE crap, how about PvP! |
| 18:26.41 | Fisker- | YES |
| 18:26.46 | Fisker- | i hoped it would happen |
| 18:26.55 | deltron | pvp :P |
| 18:26.56 | deltron | what |
| 18:26.56 | deltron | wat?????? |
| 18:26.58 | Fisker- | Arthas will be influencing you in Northrend |
| 18:27.00 | Fisker- | I LIEK |
| 18:27.13 | deltron | I can't fucking listen to it :( |
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| 18:27.29 | jme | seige weapons :O |
| 18:27.30 | Amadeo | I should have skipped the rumors, this is less exciting now |
| 18:27.32 | jme | siege |
| 18:27.34 | Amadeo | haha |
| 18:27.40 | Amadeo | second hand news |
| 18:27.41 | alext | i hope its siege weapons / destructable buildings like in daoc |
| 18:27.42 | deltron | lol |
| 18:27.50 | Amadeo | dances, hahahah |
| 18:27.51 | alext | u could use treb's to bust down the outer castle walls |
| 18:27.56 | alext | then use a siege ram to break down the castle door |
| 18:28.00 | Fisker- | so the faq leak was true then |
| 18:28.02 | alext | and then fight some super npc ala AV |
| 18:28.30 | Amadeo | it is Hero |
| 18:28.36 | Fisker- | nooo |
| 18:28.47 | Amadeo | sweet! |
| 18:28.48 | jme | that chick in the crowd was hot |
| 18:28.48 | Amadeo | vid |
| 18:28.50 | Fisker- | YES |
| 18:28.50 | Fisker- | VID |
| 18:28.51 | Fisker- | :P |
| 18:29.06 | Fisker- | noooo |
| 18:29.07 | Fisker- | in-game |
| 18:29.18 | Matrix110 | WotL trailer atm |
| 18:29.24 | Kyahx | yay, video :) |
| 18:29.24 | Matrix110 | ops |
| 18:29.25 | Matrix110 | didnt scroll |
| 18:29.27 | Antiarc|Work | Oooh |
| 18:29.29 | Antiarc|Work | in game footage |
| 18:29.35 | jme | yeah |
| 18:29.36 | jme | oh snap |
| 18:29.39 | Fisker- | NICE |
| 18:29.42 | Matrix110 | rendering is expensive Antiarc|Work :P |
| 18:29.58 | Saroz | HERO CLASS |
| 18:30.00 | Matrix110 | and they hired wow movie creaters for doing such movies^^ |
| 18:30.02 | NeoTron | problem is if I use flash based players, if that is what it is, it doesn't work on my linux boxes |
| 18:30.05 | NeoTron | I get no sound.. |
| 18:30.17 | Kyahx | NeoTron: Im watching it on ubuntu just fine |
| 18:30.28 | Fisker- | magnataur? |
| 18:30.29 | NeoTron | what I just said |
| 18:30.31 | NeoTron | I get no sound |
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| 18:30.33 | Amadeo | hey look, reused models :P |
| 18:30.40 | Kyahx | with sound that is :P |
| 18:30.42 | jme | lol |
| 18:30.42 | Matrix110 | idd |
| 18:30.43 | NeoTron | I don't know why but when I upgraded to the latest flash, I lost audio in flash |
| 18:30.50 | NeoTron | but that was quite a while ago.. |
| 18:30.55 | Kyahx | this isn't flash thou, its some weird player |
| 18:31.02 | Matrix110 | deathnight can summon monsters Oo |
| 18:31.11 | Fisker- | :OOOOOOOO |
| 18:31.11 | kergoth | anyone do a buffalo2 container thats the blizzard style but with abbreviation for labels like sandbox? |
| 18:31.13 | NeoTron | it's a palaldin warlock |
| 18:31.15 | jme | OH THAT SI FREAKING COOL |
| 18:31.15 | NeoTron | heh |
| 18:31.16 | kergoth | wont take long to do it, but i'm lazy |
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| 18:31.17 | Kyahx | so deathknight is like a worthwhile paladin? |
| 18:31.29 | deltron | lol |
| 18:31.46 | Amadeo | haha, that's pretty bad-ass |
| 18:31.50 | Fisker- | fucking nice |
| 18:31.53 | deltron | dammit |
| 18:31.56 | jme | wow |
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| 18:31.58 | deltron | i can't view it :( |
| 18:32.00 | Amadeo | I'm guessing that Death Knight will be PvE only |
| 18:32.02 | jme | Fisker-: death knight in action |
| 18:32.06 | Fisker- | yeah |
| 18:32.06 | jme | Fisker-: that was freaking cool |
| 18:32.12 | Antiarc|Work | Damn. Arthas looks badass. |
| 18:32.13 | mitch1 | yo |
| 18:32.16 | Fisker- | seems like you will be converted to a death knight then? |
| 18:32.16 | jme | definitely |
| 18:32.25 | deltron | wut? |
| 18:32.27 | Amadeo | Antiarc|Work: Hell yeah, hahah |
| 18:32.29 | Amadeo | wtf |
| 18:32.31 | Fisker- | DIABLO 3?! |
| 18:32.32 | Fisker- | noo |
| 18:32.35 | deltron | you can't pick it as a class? |
| 18:32.36 | Amadeo | I'm jealous |
| 18:32.36 | Amadeo | haha |
| 18:32.38 | Fisker- | want diablo 3! |
| 18:32.42 | Amadeo | deltron: Dunno, it's a Hero class |
| 18:32.43 | Amadeo | they haven't said |
| 18:32.44 | mitch1 | antiarc: hey, got a patch for Omen (and something to consider for Threat-1.0, too) are you the one to bug about them? |
| 18:33.00 | Matrix110 | seems no D3 atleast atm:P |
| 18:33.01 | Fisker- | QQ |
| 18:33.10 | Matrix110 | but maybe some other blizz guy comes now |
| 18:33.11 | Fisker- | they're still forgetting a game |
| 18:33.24 | Kyahx | are they going to braodcast the other panels and stuff too? |
| 18:33.35 | Thrae | mitch1: Go ahead and apply your patch to /branches, then Antiarc|Work can merge the code if it's acceptable. |
| 18:33.38 | Antiarc|Work | mitch1: That's me. |
| 18:33.39 | NeoTron | libstdc++.so.6: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory woot |
| 18:33.47 | NeoTron | I think I'll just go ahead adn read about the expansion |
| 18:33.49 | Matrix110 | WC3 now |
| 18:33.49 | yacoob | death knight == shadowpriest in plate? :D |
| 18:33.54 | Amadeo | what was his nickname? |
| 18:34.02 | Amadeo | Mark "The Korean" Koffmann? |
| 18:34.10 | mitch1 | erm, isn't it easier to put it on pasty and commit to trunk if ok? |
| 18:34.11 | Kyahx | NeoTron: can't you install that with synaptic? |
| 18:34.14 | mitch1 | but as you wish |
| 18:34.17 | Kyahx | Was already installed on my box |
| 18:34.22 | yacoob | and the reason for pushing up the level cap escapes me, really. |
| 18:34.42 | NeoTron | yacoob: so that there's something new to do perhaps? |
| 18:34.48 | Stan__ | man |
| 18:34.51 | Kyahx | not everyone likes raiding |
| 18:34.52 | Stan__ | that was awesome |
| 18:34.52 | RaydenUni | <Kyahx> so deathknight is like a worthwhile paladin? <-- maybe a paladin who doesn't heal |
| 18:34.56 | NeoTron | Kyahx: I'm using a "work supported" RHEL3 distro |
| 18:35.00 | alext | raising the level cap gives blizzard the ability to provide any type of player something to do |
| 18:35.13 | Thrae | mitch1: SVN has excellent merge abilities -- that's one of its key features. You're suppose to put patches in /branches. |
| 18:35.14 | mitch1 | I'll check if the omen patch "compiles", then I'll commit to some branch |
| 18:35.15 | RaydenUni | any live feeds that don't require some weird software? |
| 18:35.17 | alext | if you raid or pvp or grind or farm or whatever....a raised level cap gives all those niches something to do |
| 18:35.21 | yacoob | NeoTron, you can throw in new stuff without raising the cap |
| 18:35.31 | Matrix110 | stream just stopped Oo |
| 18:35.39 | Antiarc|Work | mitch1: What's the patch do? |
| 18:35.43 | yacoob | this will move Hyjal to the same old dusty closet Naxx is lying in now |
| 18:35.47 | Amadeo | Is this like subliminal messaging music? "DJ sounds good" |
| 18:35.49 | mitch1 | antiarc: fix self:Toggle() |
| 18:36.04 | mitch1 | antiarc: but in the meantime, take a look at this: http://ace.pastey.net/71743 |
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| 18:36.29 | mitch1 | that UnitCanAttack() basically screwes the solo thing a bit down |
| 18:36.32 | NeoTron | yacoob: I don't get why people complain about raised level caps in expansions. |
| 18:36.39 | RaydenUni | why are all the feeds using octashape? |
| 18:36.40 | NeoTron | it's part of the evolving world of an MMO |
| 18:36.46 | yacoob | NeoTron, it phases out old content |
| 18:36.51 | RaydenUni | NeoTron all the 60 content is dead now |
| 18:36.54 | mitch1 | compleetely removing that is probably not the good thing to do, but it's not good as it is now either |
| 18:36.59 | yacoob | what RaydenUni says |
| 18:37.04 | NeoTron | that is how mmo's work |
| 18:37.13 | RaydenUni | maybe they don't have to |
| 18:37.13 | yacoob | GW does fine throwing more and more content with people staying at lvl 20 |
| 18:37.21 | NeoTron | do you really want to keep playing MC, BWL etc anyway? |
| 18:37.28 | NeoTron | GW is not an MMO |
| 18:37.28 | RaydenUni | not everyone has played it |
| 18:37.30 | yacoob | NeoTron, you don't get it :) |
| 18:37.34 | NeoTron | I do get it |
| 18:37.36 | Matrix110 | they use Octoshape because its p2p live streaming so they use less traffic |
| 18:37.37 | RaydenUni | GW is an mmo, it's just not persistant |
| 18:37.40 | NeoTron | you'er whining about things changing |
| 18:37.40 | Matrix110 | i think |
| 18:37.41 | yacoob | my point? no, you don't :P |
| 18:37.46 | Antiarc|Work | Unholy Embrace Instant Cast. 5 min cooldown. Target is embraced by a silhouette of darkness for 12 seconds,corrupting any healing spells and effects cast upon or currentlyaffecting the target to cause damage for 50% of their healing potentialinstead of restoring health. Any damage shields cast upon or currentlyaffecting the target will also be instantly consumed, dealing 50% oftheir absorption potential in damage. Once afflicted with UnholyEmbrace, th |
| 18:37.47 | Amadeo | Matrix110: It's P2P? I see |
| 18:37.53 | NeoTron | people whined at BC, epople whine now |
| 18:38.04 | Amadeo | Antiarc|Work: From where did ye get this? |
| 18:38.05 | yacoob | new player won't even vist ZG/BWL/MC, he won't have people to go there with him |
| 18:38.08 | Antiarc|Work | EJ |
| 18:38.10 | Matrix110 | Amadeo i guess that because i got my upstream at 90% all the time:P |
| 18:38.14 | Antiarc|Work | Rather than using rage, energy, or mana, Death Knights have a special "rune sword" displayed beneath their health bar, onto which the player can etch six different runes (choose between Frost, Blood, and Unholy). Different abilities require different mixes of runes, and using abilities consumes the requisite runes until a cooldown timer causes them to be available again. Stuff like talents, spells, and other specifics are still being finalized. So are |
| 18:38.16 | Matrix110 | (my upload sucks though) |
| 18:38.17 | yacoob | and I'm not whining, it's just fun when I look at it :) |
| 18:38.24 | Amadeo | wow |
| 18:38.35 | Kemayo | Weird. |
| 18:38.37 | Fisker- | wtf |
| 18:38.47 | Amadeo | being a Hero class, it's going to be really strong |
| 18:38.54 | RaydenUni | Antiarc|Work so it's like combo points only there are 3 types? |
| 18:38.59 | Amadeo | so I imagine limits to it, like PvE only, or a certain amount per raid, etc..but who knows |
| 18:39.00 | CIA-32 | 03trh * r45647 10VanasKoS/modules/DistributedTracker.lua: VanasKoS: bugfix |
| 18:39.06 | Antiarc|Work | Someone explain to me how Unholy Embrace will even work in PVP |
| 18:39.13 | Antiarc|Work | Because that's just arena insta-death. |
| 18:39.20 | Amadeo | Antiarc|Work: Probably won't be allowed in PvP at all |
| 18:39.26 | RaydenUni | so i installed octathorpe and i still can't play it... |
| 18:39.34 | RaydenUni | i hope hero classes aren't anymore powerful |
| 18:39.42 | Antiarc|Work | One of Northrend's 10 new zones (final count still tentative) is anoutdoor PVP zone that introduces the concept of siege weapons (MeatWagons, Steam Tanks, etc.) and destructible buildings. Blizzarddescribes the outdoor zone as basically a "non-instanced Battleground"where completing objectives earns world-wide bonuses for your side(Think Spirit Shard buff in Auchindoun instances). The PVP zone isentirely avoidable (if you're the carebear type), and se |
| 18:39.45 | Fisker- | SAUCE Antiarc|Work |
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| 18:39.48 | Amadeo | RaydenUni: I ended up having to use IE |
| 18:39.52 | Rccsv | RaydenUni, I couldn't get it to work in Firefox. |
| 18:40.02 | Thrae | Antiarc|Work: If you can't add & remove multiple runes at a time, even in a macro, that's going to SUCK horribly. |
| 18:40.08 | RaydenUni | hm, i'll try ie |
| 18:40.30 | Amadeo | IE's the fallback buddy |
| 18:40.34 | Amadeo | When all else fails |
| 18:41.05 | yacoob | constant rising of the level cap, and - with this - scaling up gears and items remind me very much of Dragon Ball |
| 18:41.05 | Fisker- | haha |
| 18:41.16 | RaydenUni | do you put the new runes there? or do they show up automatically? |
| 18:41.19 | Fisker- | this is the first topic Blizzard have touched concerning the expansion since it was rumored 4 days ago |
| 18:41.29 | Thrae | Soon your attack power will be OVER NINE-THOUSAND!!!!111one |
| 18:41.30 | yacoob | each episode they grow stronger... and stronger... now they're shooting planets and suns at each other... |
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| 18:41.35 | RaydenUni | nothing is happening on the feed |
| 18:41.44 | Amadeo | They have to raise the level cap, or else people will run out of stuff to achieve |
| 18:41.59 | RaydenUni | if they didnt' raise the cap, everything would become mroe dependant on gear |
| 18:42.08 | yacoob | Antiarc|Work, does this source of yours says anything on how one would make a hero class? |
| 18:42.12 | RaydenUni | lvl 70 quest gear would be better than the current raid gear |
| 18:42.16 | Antiarc|Work | No, yacoob |
| 18:42.18 | RaydenUni | no new abilities if no levelling |
| 18:42.20 | yacoob | upgrade your lvl 80 pally, or...? |
| 18:42.22 | dylanm | More rep grinds? |
| 18:42.34 | dylanm | There's always that >.< |
| 18:42.39 | yacoob | RaydenUni, well, one can redefine the mechanics |
| 18:42.53 | Kemayo | I wonder how they'll handle the talent trees for giving us 10 more points. |
| 18:42.54 | yacoob | give more trees for spec |
| 18:42.59 | RaydenUni | yacoob that changes it entirely. it was like someone said, GW succesfully did a whole game at lvl 20. but GW != wow |
| 18:43.01 | Thrae | (with the hero class of Warriors being Knights) "That Knight's Attack Power is over 9000!!!" "What, 9000?!?!" |
| 18:43.15 | RaydenUni | where are you getting this? |
| 18:43.34 | RaydenUni | do we know that the DK is the only hero class? or has anything been said about that |
| 18:43.34 | yacoob | RaydenUni, well, yes, I'm biased by GW :D |
| 18:43.50 | RaydenUni | yacoob i think hero classes should be a sub class you can learn at 70. sort of like a GW sub class |
| 18:43.52 | RaydenUni | only no changing |
| 18:43.55 | yacoob | hehe, comment about the trailer: |
| 18:44.09 | yacoob | "- Pally run away? Did they remove hearthstone and bubble in the expansion?" |
| 18:44.43 | RaydenUni | so the video feed is really boring |
| 18:44.44 | Kemayo | RaydenUni: They wouldn't do no changing. It goes completely against their entire design philosophy. |
| 18:44.44 | Thrae | Antiarc|Work: Erm, Warlocks become tanks? |
| 18:44.44 | RaydenUni | i'm so glad i downloaded the software |
| 18:44.53 | yacoob | RaydenUni, probably |
| 18:45.02 | RaydenUni | probably what? |
| 18:45.04 | Matrix110 | pft nothing on the stream for the next 1hr 15mins |
| 18:45.05 | yacoob | but I'd love to be it pally only 8) |
| 18:45.11 | yacoob | 20:43 < RaydenUni> yacoob i think hero classes should be a sub class you can learn at 70. sort of like a GW sub class |
| 18:45.25 | Amadeo | You can open the stream directly in Windows Media Player or whatever if you copy the stream link while it's feeding in the browser, then open it up in the other |
| 18:45.26 | RaydenUni | i don't think that is what they are doing, but it would be fun |
| 18:45.34 | yacoob | or some dramatic quest, with Final Choice to be made, that will push you to the Light or to the Dark |
| 18:45.36 | RaydenUni | HUGE balance problem |
| 18:45.48 | yacoob | oh, yes, erymuchso :D |
| 18:46.02 | Fisker- | "WoW: WotLK! Officialy announced in Manheim!" |
| 18:46.07 | Fisker- | i wish i could stab people |
| 18:46.09 | Fisker- | over the internet |
| 18:46.25 | Antiarc|Work | World of WarCraft's first Hero Class is a plate-wearing tank/DPS hybrid that works a little something like this: When players hit level 80, they'll be able to embark on a quest (similar in difficulty to the Warlock's epic mount quest, back before the level cap was raised to 70) that unlocks the ability to create a Death Knight character. The Death Knight starts at a high level (somewhere around 60 or 70, though Blizzard isn't certain yet), so you won' |
| 18:46.38 | RaydenUni | if you add 4 hero sub classes you have to balance 9 * 4 = 36 classes |
| 18:46.45 | Amadeo | oh sweet! |
| 18:46.48 | Frostx- | so its a hero class? for real? |
| 18:46.50 | yacoob | ah, this way...? |
| 18:46.51 | Frostx- | =O |
| 18:46.55 | Amadeo | Arena teams will be 5 DK vs 5 DK |
| 18:46.58 | CIA-32 | 03mitchell * r45648 10/branches/Omen-ToggleFix/: branching for Toggle() fix |
| 18:47.15 | Antiarc|Work | Wrath of the Lich King will introduce a new profession called Inscription that will let players customize individual spells and abilities in their spell book -- to change the cooldown timer on a Fireball, for example, or alter the crit rate of a healing spell. |
| 18:47.15 | RaydenUni | Antiarc|Work does it replace your 80 character? |
| 18:47.24 | Antiarc|Work | RaydenUni: No, it unlocks the ability to create new DKs |
| 18:47.28 | Kemayo | Antiarc|Work: Every quote you've pasted so far is so long that it's been cut off. :P |
| 18:47.37 | yacoob | "I'm a brave Palladin! Now tell me once again, old man... if I brandish this, a dark clone of myself will appear?" :DDD |
| 18:47.38 | Kemayo | Oh, wait, apart from that last inscription one. |
| 18:47.39 | RaydenUni | they aren't cut off fo rme |
| 18:47.39 | Fisker- | Antiarc|Work that sounds SO OVERPOWERED |
| 18:47.47 | Fisker- | everyone will be enchanters + inscribers |
| 18:47.51 | RaydenUni | oh no, they are |
| 18:47.53 | Amadeo | lol |
| 18:47.59 | Antiarc|Work | World of WarCraft's first Hero Class is a plate-wearing tank/DPS hybrid that works a little something like this: When players hit level 80, they'll be able to embark on a quest (similar in difficulty to the Warlock's epic mount quest, back before the level cap was raised to 70) that unlocks the ability to create a Death Knight character. |
| 18:48.02 | Antiarc|Work | The Death Knight starts at a high level (somewhere around 60 or 70, though Blizzard isn't certain yet), so you won't have to grind your way back up all over again. It's intended as an alternative, advanced class for end-game use only. |
| 18:48.14 | Amadeo | I knew it |
| 18:48.15 | Amadeo | PvE only |
| 18:48.20 | RaydenUni | so it's only for raiding |
| 18:48.28 | RaydenUni | lame |
| 18:48.29 | CIA-32 | 03mitchell * r45649 10/branches/Omen-ToggleFix/: wrong command... |
| 18:48.30 | Antiarc|Work | Where's it say PVE only? |
| 18:48.33 | Amadeo | end-game use only |
| 18:48.38 | Antiarc|Work | There's end-game PVP |
| 18:48.39 | Fisker- | could as well be pvp |
| 18:48.40 | RaydenUni | more loving for the small percentage elite |
| 18:48.46 | Antiarc|Work | It just means that you won't be killing kobolds for candles. |
| 18:48.59 | Amadeo | Maybe, it just seems like a PvE quote to me...we'll see! :) |
| 18:49.02 | Thrae | "Inscribing" will probably use some type of balance system, so altering your spells is more just tailoring to your gear, spec, and playstyle. |
| 18:49.03 | Frostx- | You no take candle! |
| 18:49.05 | yacoob | but killing daemons for teeth! |
| 18:49.05 | Frostx- | ^ i missed that |
| 18:49.07 | Matrix110 | Antiarc from where? |
| 18:49.07 | CIA-32 | 03mitchell * r45650 10/branches/Omen-ToggleFix/: Branching for ToggleFix for real now |
| 18:49.13 | Antiarc|Work | Amadeo: They won't make it PVE-only |
| 18:49.17 | yacoob | (that's huge difference, really. Reaaaaaly. *nodnod*) |
| 18:49.18 | Antiarc|Work | Matrix110: http://www.1up.com/do/newsStory?cId=3161725 |
| 18:49.24 | Matrix110 | thanks |
| 18:49.26 | Antiarc|Work | Amadeo: There's no incentive to raid if you can't use the character half the time |
| 18:49.30 | Amadeo | Antiarc|Work: If the class is that powerful, nobody will play anything else...so it makes sense to me |
| 18:49.42 | Amadeo | That's why it's a free pre-leveled class |
| 18:49.43 | Antiarc|Work | Amadeo: Well, warriors exist and people still play rogues. |
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| 18:49.54 | Fisker- | Thrae obviously, but you're still going to make your character better |
| 18:50.06 | RaydenUni | why is it a free preleveled class Amadeo ? |
| 18:50.07 | CIA-32 | 03mitchell * r45651 10/branches/Omen-ToggleFix/ (Omen.lua OmenMenu.lua): Omen: fix Toggle() behaviour (and Always show along the way) |
| 18:50.11 | yacoob | Bicycle Repairman sketch comes to mind. |
| 18:50.15 | Amadeo | Antiarc|Work: Rogues are still powerful in PvP :) |
| 18:50.18 | dreamss2 | Inscribing is prolly gonna be like less mana used mods |
| 18:50.19 | RaydenUni | not arena |
| 18:50.19 | stavmar__ | http://ace.pastey.net/71757 found this with Manufac? |
| 18:50.24 | mitch1 | antiac: there, check the changes |
| 18:50.25 | dreamss2 | and higher spell range |
| 18:50.25 | Thrae | Maybe they'll add a third profession, or Inscription can be done to other players |
| 18:50.41 | Amadeo | I just watched some match not too long ago, they had a Rogue on their team |
| 18:50.43 | Antiarc|Work | Amadeo: Rogues are dead weight in the arena. |
| 18:50.44 | RaydenUni | of the 8 teams playing in the blizzcon tournament only 1 team has a rogue. 8 teams have a warrior |
| 18:50.50 | Amadeo | what's her face, Nitrana or whatever |
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| 18:50.56 | Amadeo | they won each match |
| 18:50.57 | Antiarc|Work | Nitrana retired. |
| 18:50.58 | Amadeo | with the Rogue |
| 18:51.09 | RaydenUni | that doesn't mean rogues are good in arena |
| 18:51.11 | Amadeo | well this was like a week or so ago |
| 18:51.15 | Kemayo | Inscribing makes me think they're stealing CoH's powers system. |
| 18:51.21 | RaydenUni | that means there exists a team with a rogue that is good |
| 18:51.23 | Antiarc|Work | I'm pretty sure that Nitrana shelves the rogue for an ele shaman. |
| 18:51.26 | Amadeo | Antiarc|Work: It was on TV, on CBS |
| 18:51.37 | yacoob | ultrahighlevel of inscribing + mage = fire/ice sniper :D |
| 18:51.43 | Antiarc|Work | Because Ele shaman >>>> rogue |
| 18:51.56 | Amadeo | maybe it was an old recording? I dunno |
| 18:52.01 | Amadeo | but it was a premier |
| 18:52.01 | Amadeo | hehe |
| 18:52.02 | Antiarc|Work | It likely was |
| 18:52.12 | Antiarc|Work | Nitrana's damned good |
| 18:52.22 | Antiarc|Work | But the fact that he rerolled an elemental shaman for arena play should tell you something |
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| 18:52.29 | Amadeo | It's even in the WoW launcher right now |
| 18:52.35 | Antiarc|Work | He'd rather work a new character up to 70 and gear it than play a rogue in the arena. |
| 18:52.37 | Amadeo | "WoW invades CBS sport" |
| 18:52.40 | Antiarc|Work | And he's one of the top PVPers in the world. |
| 18:52.40 | Kemayo | Not to imply that it's a *bad* thing that they're stealing CoH's power-mod system, mind you. |
| 18:52.57 | dreamss2 | pure shaman teams are nasty as fuck |
| 18:52.58 | dreamss2 | hehe |
| 18:53.11 | yacoob | Fine things are there to be stealed, Kemayo? :) |
| 18:53.21 | Amadeo | Antiarc|Work: Maybe he came back to Rogue |
| 18:53.34 | Thrae | Kemayo: Err, tailoring spells was around long before CoH, such as in AC for more recent MMORPGs, and in tons of MUDs. |
| 18:53.41 | Fisker- | the runesword shit is going to be sick though |
| 18:54.01 | Fisker- | i can't wait until the first addon nerf blizzard does to ensure a considerable difficulty :P |
| 18:54.05 | Antiarc|Work | Amadeo: It's generally common knowledge that rogues are worthless in the arena. Warriors do everything they do, except better, with more HP, better mobility, and plate. |
| 18:54.17 | Antiarc|Work | There is zero reason to take a rogue over a warrior. |
| 18:54.20 | RaydenUni | i still don't understand why you guys think the runesword will be imbalanced? |
| 18:54.20 | Thrae | Kemayo: Flying and the mentoring system are the more innovative things in CoH |
| 18:54.37 | RaydenUni | rogues have more CC than a warrior in arena |
| 18:54.37 | Thrae | RaydenUni: No faith in Blizzard. |
| 18:54.53 | dreamss2 | Antiarc|Work, rogues can disable someone that gets BOP |
| 18:54.59 | dreamss2 | while warriors are fucked |
| 18:55.09 | Antiarc|Work | dreamss2: If they have BoP, then they have a paladin, and they have cleanse. |
| 18:55.15 | RaydenUni | BoP |
| 18:55.16 | RaydenUni | ? |
| 18:55.17 | Antiarc|Work | Blind ain't worth crap. |
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| 18:55.32 | Antiarc|Work | Now that trinkets break stun, blind, and sap, rogue CC is extremely mediocre in the arena. |
| 18:55.50 | Antiarc|Work | Mace-specced warriors with Stormherald are more of a threat. |
| 18:55.52 | yacoob | ouch :D |
| 18:55.58 | yacoob | The SQL server has been crashing regularly now due to a SQL Server internal scheduler stall. This causes the server to stop responding and eventually results in a failover. |
| 18:56.01 | yacoob | We have been diagnosing this as much as possible, we have an open support request at Microsoft and we have gotten senior consultant from a company called Miracle to look over the errorlogs and traces with us, with no luck at all. After yesterdays 5 minute to downtime crash, we gathered very valuable data on the issue and that will hopefully help us to fully understand the issue, find out whats causing it and fix it. |
| 18:56.02 | dreamss2 | i an assure you, if a person gets boped they used up their pvp trinket |
| 18:56.06 | jme | Antiarc|Work: is stormherald > deep thunder? |
| 18:56.07 | yacoob | Read: Eve Online is melting :) |
| 18:56.11 | Fisker- | http://www.wcradio.com/blizzcon/bigmurloc.jpg |
| 18:56.13 | Fisker- | http://www.wcradio.com/blizzcon/wrath.jpg |
| 18:56.15 | Fisker- | http://www.wcradio.com/blizzcon/demostation.jpg |
| 18:56.17 | Fisker- | http://www.wcradio.com/blizzcon/zepptonorthrend.jpg |
| 18:56.24 | Amadeo | Rogues can shut casters down better than a Warrior, though |
| 18:56.25 | yacoob | (they must be in deep shit if something like this hits the players O_o) |
| 18:56.38 | Kemayo | Thrae: Sorry, I am demonstrating my inexperience. CoH was the only place I remembered seeing it. I never played AC, and never got far into any MUDs. |
| 18:56.42 | dreamss2 | warriors are dependant on having a shaman :P |
| 18:56.52 | Antiarc|Work | Warriors aren't dependent on having a shaman at all. |
| 18:56.56 | JY|Scree1 | is there an ace addon planned which reports afk leecher in battlegrounds ? |
| 18:56.58 | mitch1 | antiarc: do you have any thoughts about the Threat-1.0 thing? (http://ace.pastey.net/71743)? I notice that it is called when PLAYER_TARGET_CHANGED as well, so probably that's why there's that UnitCanAttack() but I'm not sure if that's really necessary. how does it activate for healers if they're targeting the tank? |
| 18:56.59 | Amadeo | but you need a Warrior anyway, for MS |
| 18:56.59 | Antiarc|Work | It's a nice boost, but they're extremely powerful without it. |
| 18:57.21 | cncfanatics | aaaaah back |
| 18:57.24 | Fisker- | but unfortunately that means they're likely to skip all the azeroth areas anyways :( |
| 18:57.25 | Fisker- | QQ |
| 18:57.25 | cncfanatics | hello everyone |
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| 18:57.32 | cncfanatics | ~shoot Fisker- |
| 18:57.33 | purl | ACTION shoots Fisker- in the foot with a glue gun! |
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| 18:57.40 | Fisker- | seriously want the missing zones added |
| 18:57.51 | Antiarc|Work | mitch1: That's mostly corner case handling, for things like targeting an enemy while solo and mounted. |
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| 18:57.59 | Antiarc|Work | It is necessary |
| 18:58.13 | dreamss2 | what makes 2h warriors OP is the wf totem and BL |
| 18:58.15 | dreamss2 | hehe |
| 18:58.21 | JY|Scree1 | about the warrior in arena thing remember that 5man instance group without warrior was considered suicide for 2 years |
| 18:58.36 | RaydenUni | if DK are available at 70, then everyone will want to start every other class at 70 |
| 18:58.41 | Amadeo | that's not true, JY |
| 18:58.49 | Amadeo | We did it with a Druid way back when |
| 18:58.54 | Thrae | Kemayo: As Edison once said, "I got where I am today by standing on the backs of giants." The way all creative processes work, all thought processes work, is that something sparks something else which sparks something else, etc. True randomness doesn't exist in the universe, to our observations. There's always a starting point. |
| 18:58.55 | Amadeo | it was difficult, but worked fine |
| 18:58.56 | mitch1 | antiarc: but then it should move to the end of the elsif change, shouldn't it? as in http://ace.pastey.net/71758 |
| 18:59.02 | dreamss2 | shamans used to be tanks |
| 18:59.07 | mitch1 | s/change/chain/ |
| 18:59.09 | dreamss2 | pre bc in 5mans |
| 18:59.15 | cncfanatics | paladins too |
| 18:59.16 | Antiarc|Work | mitch1: Hm. Probably, yeah. |
| 18:59.17 | JY|Scree1 | yes it is possible, but not optimal |
| 18:59.19 | cncfanatics | they still are though |
| 18:59.20 | JY|Scree1 | (was) |
| 18:59.28 | Antiarc|Work | No, wait. |
| 18:59.32 | Antiarc|Work | That's correct. |
| 18:59.33 | Amadeo | Yeah, but I thought that's what the whole idea behind classes were |
| 18:59.36 | Amadeo | not to give everyone everything |
| 18:59.36 | JY|Scree1 | as now arena team without war is possible but not optimal |
| 18:59.48 | RaydenUni | what were paladins for in dungeons pre BC? cause now they are good for healing. as horde i'd never played with a paladin until BC |
| 18:59.55 | Fisker- | http://forums.wow-europe.com/thread.html?topicId=305841980&sid=1 <-THIS GUY DIES NOW |
| 19:00.00 | Antiarc|Work | Paladins have always been excellent healers. |
| 19:00.13 | RaydenUni | outhealing priests? |
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| 19:00.34 | Amadeo | when I do the arenas on PTR, I notice that Paladins are nice to have, but being able to move and heal is > than everything |
| 19:00.51 | cncfanatics | Amadeo, not imo |
| 19:00.59 | cncfanatics | I'm a paladinhealer in arena |
| 19:01.04 | cncfanatics | and why would I want to move ? |
| 19:01.10 | cncfanatics | I'm not squishy, I dont have to |
| 19:01.13 | dreamss2 | they need to make the elementals cooldown less than 15mins imo |
| 19:01.15 | dreamss2 | tho |
| 19:01.17 | Antiarc|Work | Pre-TBC, it was harder to have a paladin mainheal a run, but it was possible |
| 19:01.20 | cncfanatics | fire elemental in arena ? |
| 19:01.20 | Amadeo | because you're gonna get CC or Counterspelled |
| 19:01.22 | cncfanatics | that would be lol |
| 19:01.31 | cncfanatics | Amadeo, thats what fakehealing is for :p |
| 19:01.37 | Antiarc|Work | They were a secondary healer/buffer class before TBC |
| 19:01.40 | dreamss2 | 3 of our 5 new spells are worthless in arena |
| 19:01.41 | dreamss2 | hehe |
| 19:01.41 | CIA-32 | 03sylvanaar * r45652 10Prat/Prat_Modules/modules/CustomFilters.lua: Prat: Fix missing self: in CustomFilters |
| 19:01.50 | Amadeo | you can't always fake heals when a heal has to go through to save someone :P |
| 19:01.57 | cncfanatics | Amadeo, also |
| 19:02.00 | cncfanatics | my team has 2 ms warriors |
| 19:02.02 | cncfanatics | and a rogue |
| 19:02.07 | cncfanatics | a mage doesnt get time to get a sheep off |
| 19:02.09 | dreamss2 | and? |
| 19:02.13 | dreamss2 | what else |
| 19:02.18 | cncfanatics | windfury shammy |
| 19:02.24 | cncfanatics | 2x ms warrior with windfury is lol |
| 19:02.25 | dreamss2 | see |
| 19:02.28 | Amadeo | what's your rating? |
| 19:02.47 | dreamss2 | 2 MS and rogue locking up healers |
| 19:02.49 | dreamss2 | for the lol |
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| 19:03.23 | cncfanatics | Amadeo, only did 10 matches yet, 1600 |
| 19:03.28 | cncfanatics | started last week |
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| 19:03.31 | Amadeo | I see |
| 19:03.38 | cncfanatics | 8 wins 3 loses I think |
| 19:03.41 | cncfanatics | but we're all in pve gear |
| 19:03.51 | cncfanatics | the combo is imba |
| 19:03.56 | cncfanatics | most clothies have 5 seconds to live |
| 19:04.08 | cncfanatics | especialy the lol pyro ones |
| 19:04.12 | Antiarc|Work | See how you hold up once you hit the 1900 range |
| 19:04.18 | cncfanatics | indeed |
| 19:04.18 | Antiarc|Work | And you start running into teams with sta/resilience |
| 19:04.22 | Antiarc|Work | And they kite your entire team |
| 19:04.29 | cncfanatics | freedom |
| 19:04.36 | Amadeo | dispelled |
| 19:04.36 | dreamss2 | shaman purge? |
| 19:04.38 | Amadeo | haha |
| 19:04.39 | Fisker- | i wonder if you can increase range with inscription |
| 19:04.49 | dreamss2 | prolly |
| 19:04.52 | mitch1 | antiarc: when should that PLAYER_ENTERING_WORLD deactivate Threat-1.0? guess it should always be enabled in party, right? |
| 19:04.55 | dreamss2 | range/mana/usage |
| 19:05.03 | dreamss2 | mana usage/dmg done |
| 19:05.07 | cncfanatics | Amadeo, never had problems yet |
| 19:05.12 | cncfanatics | but we'll, we're low rating |
| 19:05.16 | kergoth | hmm, is buffalo2 maintained? |
| 19:05.16 | Antiarc|Work | mitch1: When you zone into a PVP instance, generally |
| 19:05.19 | Amadeo | Yeah |
| 19:05.28 | Amadeo | later on you will! |
| 19:05.55 | cncfanatics | Amadeo, shadowstep & intercept have their uses though |
| 19:05.58 | Antiarc|Work | 2x MS war is very powerful, but without CC (and no, rogue really doesn't count. I mean poly/fear) and ranged interrupts, you're going to run into trouble in the high end |
| 19:06.01 | Antiarc|Work | lol, shadowstep? |
| 19:06.05 | Antiarc|Work | You have a sub rogue? |
| 19:06.10 | mitch1 | antiarc: hm. I still don't get that UnitCanAttack() check |
| 19:06.13 | cncfanatics | he was sub at a point, combat now |
| 19:06.18 | Amadeo | Antiarc|Work: CC in next patch is 10s max, so after one trinket or dispel, it's almost useless |
| 19:06.20 | cncfanatics | dunno what he's planning to spec for high rating tho |
| 19:06.20 | Antiarc|Work | mitch1: It's mostly to assist pet classes. |
| 19:06.25 | jme | the pally in the wrath of the lich king video on the live stream should've been blood elf |
| 19:06.33 | jme | *run |
| 19:06.36 | mitch1 | but it precisely bugs them :) |
| 19:06.38 | Antiarc|Work | Amadeo: A 5-sec polymorph on a healer is enough to kill someone. |
| 19:06.52 | cncfanatics | Antiarc|Work, first will break by sacrifice on me prolly |
| 19:06.54 | cncfanatics | second by trinket |
| 19:06.55 | mitch1 | oh, I know |
| 19:06.57 | cncfanatics | after that its 2.5 sec |
| 19:07.07 | cncfanatics | or bubble even if needed |
| 19:07.08 | jme | Antiarc|Work: as is a 3 second silencing shot followed by arcane torrent! |
| 19:07.10 | Antiarc|Work | cncfanatics: Any decent team will attack the target without sacrifice. |
| 19:07.21 | Antiarc|Work | The goal of any team against a paladin is to force a bubble |
| 19:07.30 | Antiarc|Work | Once that happens, 12 sec later, it's game over for the paladin |
| 19:07.30 | cncfanatics | Antiarc|Work, how would they find out ? :o |
| 19:07.40 | dreamss2 | unless they have a priest |
| 19:07.43 | dreamss2 | and a shaman |
| 19:07.47 | dreamss2 | then its like 2 secs |
| 19:07.48 | dreamss2 | :P |
| 19:07.50 | Amadeo | Yeah, I dunno, I feel like Paladins are pretty weak in the arena |
| 19:07.52 | Antiarc|Work | cncfanatics: Because the graphic is really huge, and it's a waste of the buff time to cast it before you're out of the gate? |
| 19:07.55 | mitch1 | still, you help some cases and bug the others |
| 19:08.08 | cncfanatics | Antiarc|Work, does it get neon beams too on PTR ? -.- |
| 19:08.12 | cncfanatics | its a pretty subtle gfx atm |
| 19:08.14 | Amadeo | maybe in 5v5 they're better, I dunno |
| 19:08.26 | Antiarc|Work | cncfanatics: I have no problems spotting it on the live realms |
| 19:08.39 | cncfanatics | Antiarc|Work, hmmmmm |
| 19:08.45 | cncfanatics | might cast it right before we get in their LoS then |
| 19:08.46 | Antiarc|Work | If i see a paladin sac someone, I just target someone else, and my team follows my MA. |
| 19:08.48 | dreamss2 | shamans are weaker than pallies |
| 19:08.50 | RaydenUni | <Amadeo> Yeah, I dunno, I feel like Paladins are pretty weak in the arena <-- buh what? then why is everyone playing paladins? |
| 19:08.51 | dreamss2 | imo |
| 19:09.08 | Amadeo | RaydenUni: They are? :P |
| 19:09.09 | dreamss2 | prot/healing pallies are gay tarded for melee |
| 19:09.14 | deltron | hahaha |
| 19:09.17 | cncfanatics | dreamss2, thats exactly what I am |
| 19:09.17 | dreamss2 | while my shaman gets eaten by melee |
| 19:09.22 | deltron | paladins are so OP in arena it's not even funny |
| 19:09.27 | mitch1 | antiarc: but wouldn't it be better to just let (permanent) pet classes request threat when solo? |
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| 19:09.27 | cncfanatics | deltron, how so ? |
| 19:09.29 | Fisker- | nooooooo |
| 19:09.34 | Fisker- | Quake Wars Beta 2 just started |
| 19:09.34 | Amadeo | use spells against them instead |
| 19:09.34 | cncfanatics | get a cs off and i'm done |
| 19:09.35 | Fisker- | bastards |
| 19:09.38 | deltron | blessing of protection for one thing |
| 19:09.50 | Antiarc|Work | mitch1: Pets despawn when you mount now. |
| 19:09.50 | dreamss2 | Frostmourne Classes: Death Knight |
| 19:09.58 | RaydenUni | Amadeo of the 8 teams playing at blizzcon, all 8 have a paladin. only pallies and warriors |
| 19:10.00 | Antiarc|Work | So it works around it. |
| 19:10.06 | Antiarc|Work | Trust me, it works, and it's correct :) |
| 19:10.13 | mitch1 | antiarc: I know, but if they click "Active When Solo", threat-1.0 would still run for them |
| 19:10.16 | Amadeo | RaydenUni: Are they gonna show those matches live? |
| 19:10.21 | Fisker- | i wonder how many top teams have rogues |
| 19:10.22 | RaydenUni | i dunno |
| 19:10.24 | Fisker- | i guess like _ZERO_ |
| 19:10.25 | RaydenUni | Fisker- 1 |
| 19:10.26 | deltron | blessing of freedom is not right either :P |
| 19:10.29 | RaydenUni | of those 8 |
| 19:10.34 | Fisker- | "omg rogues are overpowdered" |
| 19:10.36 | Amadeo | RaydenUni: Who's the Rogue? |
| 19:10.41 | mitch1 | but those that disable ActieveWhenSolo won't get a running Threat-1.0 in unnecessary cases (attacking someone solo) |
| 19:10.47 | RaydenUni | i dunno |
| 19:10.49 | Antiarc|Work | Ah, I need to extend the condition |
| 19:10.50 | RaydenUni | i'm trying to find the page |
| 19:10.55 | Antiarc|Work | But the condition does need to be there. |
| 19:10.55 | deltron | paladins are pobably the best arena healers |
| 19:11.02 | mitch1 | antiarc: just get rid of it |
| 19:11.04 | Antiarc|Work | Fisker-: A couple do. They're all heavy burst teams. |
| 19:11.05 | dreamss2 | so did blizz nerf ele shamans crit proc rate? |
| 19:11.10 | RaydenUni | http://www.wowinsider.com/2007/07/31/taking-a-look-at-the-arena-team-finalists/ |
| 19:11.16 | mitch1 | antiarc: hunters/locks should click "active when solo" and be done with it |
| 19:11.22 | cncfanatics | deltron: depends if the other team can manage him or not |
| 19:11.26 | RaydenUni | # 25% of the players in the finals are Warriors |
| 19:11.26 | RaydenUni | # 20% of the players in the finals are Paladins |
| 19:11.31 | Amadeo | Druids got owned |
| 19:11.32 | Amadeo | lol |
| 19:11.43 | RaydenUni | lawl lrn2play? |
| 19:11.57 | Antiarc|Work | mitch1: The level of whining I got from pet classes before I put that check in tells me otherwise. :P |
| 19:12.06 | deltron | cncfanatics: we usually go to the pally first while their team is wailing on me trying to kill me (they can't :) ) |
| 19:12.07 | Fisker- | http://www.wow-europe.com/wrath/ |
| 19:12.11 | dreamss2 | i had 18 + full talents + boomkin aura and had a15% crit rate |
| 19:12.26 | mitch1 | antiarc: you can't reliably extend that condition without bugging those that actually DON'T want threat when solo |
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| 19:12.35 | deltron | Fisker-: FU, the us one isn't ready |
| 19:12.42 | mitch1 | unless you look for mount-up and other weird stuff |
| 19:12.48 | Amadeo | Fisker-: what's the third enviornment called on that page? |
| 19:12.52 | Fisker- | hah deltron :P |
| 19:12.53 | RaydenUni | http://www.blizzard.com/blizzcon07/bracket-wow.shtml |
| 19:13.04 | mitch1 | doh, a croc killed me :) |
| 19:13.19 | Matrix110 | omfg i cant set the wrath page to en |
| 19:13.29 | Matrix110 | ah now |
| 19:14.10 | dreamss2 | "Target is embraced by a silhouette of darkness for 6 seconds, corrupting any healing spells and effects cast upon or currently affecting the target to cause damage for 50% of their healing potential instead of restoring health. Any damage shields cast upon or currently affecting the target will also be instantly consumed, dealing 50% of their absorption potential in damage. Once afflicted with Unholy Embrace, the target cannot be afflicted wit |
| 19:14.10 | dreamss2 | lol |
| 19:14.16 | dreamss2 | deltron stop stalking me fag |
| 19:14.17 | cncfanatics | deltron, class ? |
| 19:14.17 | dreamss2 | :P |
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| 19:14.23 | mitch1 | antiarc: ah, and I narrowed down the Omen-pulloutbar appearing when solo with water elemental thing: it only happens if I steal aggro from the elemental |
| 19:14.41 | Amadeo | RaydenUni: Who is on Power Trip? |
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| 19:14.55 | deltron | dreamss2: :P |
| 19:14.56 | mitch1 | antiarc: that is, if I attack first, and keep agro, then the bar doesn't appear, if I let the WE attack first and steal agro later, it appears |
| 19:15.01 | deltron | cncfanatics: resto shaman :) |
| 19:15.07 | RaydenUni | i dunno Amadeo |
| 19:15.11 | RaydenUni | i guess i'll look on the armory |
| 19:15.11 | cncfanatics | deltron, I noticed our resto shammy was very squishy |
| 19:15.17 | mitch1 | antiarc: probly somehow related with the warning thing? that blinking effect? |
| 19:15.17 | cncfanatics | but that might be because of the lack of arena gear |
| 19:15.24 | deltron | cncfanatics: I have 0 arena gear |
| 19:15.57 | Antiarc|Work | Yeah, the check is on target change |
| 19:16.01 | Antiarc|Work | Just need to fix that. |
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| 19:16.45 | RaydenUni | http://armory.worldofwarcraft.com/team-info.xml?r=Tichondrius&ts=5&t=Power+Trip&select=Power+Trip <-- you guys think this is them? removed everyone for blizzcon |
| 19:16.47 | dreamss2 | are they gonna add a skettis area on northend? |
| 19:16.53 | cncfanatics | deltron, how can you not be squishy and he be then ? -.- |
| 19:17.01 | dreamss2 | lore said there a huge aq40 like zone out there |
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| 19:17.25 | mitch1 | antiarc: and regarding that bar blinking thing, why is it hard-coded to agro-gain - 40% there, why not use the same setting as for the standard aggro-warning setting in the menu? (sorry to bug you so much ;) |
| 19:17.32 | RaydenUni | oh they are probably the team on us event team 1 |
| 19:17.36 | RaydenUni | on server |
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| 19:17.43 | RaydenUni | http://armory.worldofwarcraft.com/team-info.xml?r=US+Event+Realm+1&ts=5&t=Power+Trip&select=Power+Trip |
| 19:17.46 | Amadeo | RaydenUni: Yeah I couldn't find the names :( |
| 19:17.47 | Antiarc|Work | mitch1: Heh, because I wrote that and forgot about it ;) |
| 19:17.55 | Antiarc|Work | I still have a decent bit to do on the pullout bars. |
| 19:18.03 | deltron | cncfanatics: I dunno, maybe it's because I have 56 points into resto? |
| 19:18.09 | Thrae | !tc us tichondrius 5 Power Trip |
| 19:18.11 | ThraeBot | Thrae: Power Trip (5v5); [[ Anenga, Level 70 Night Elf Druid (12/11/38); http://tinyurl.com/ys3oth ]] |
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| 19:18.38 | Nickenyfiken | http://www.wow-europe.com/wrath/movies/wrath-trailer/Wrath_Of_The_Lich_King_EN.avi-downloader.exe yay |
| 19:18.43 | Thrae | !te us tichondrius 5 Power Trip |
| 19:18.44 | ThraeBot | Thrae: Name: Power Trip (5v5); Bloodlust (Alliance); Rank: 1793; Rating: 1500; Last Season's Rank: 1; This Season: 0/0 (0%) (Won/Played); This Week: 0/0 (0%); Points: ~376. [[ Link: http://tinyurl.com/2ryqug ]] |
| 19:18.49 | Antiarc|Work | Nickenyfiken: http://media.worldofwarcraft.com/wrath/movies/wrath-trailer/wrath_of_the_lich_king_en.html |
| 19:18.50 | Amadeo | Nickenyfiken: is that high quality? |
| 19:18.56 | Nickenyfiken | divx |
| 19:19.11 | Amadeo | but is it high quality? :P |
| 19:19.21 | deltron | fap fap fap |
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| 19:19.28 | Fisker- | http://www.developersdevelopersdevelopers.dk/wotlk/ |
| 19:19.34 | Fisker- | if you don't have teh 1337 torrentz |
| 19:19.47 | cncfanatics | !c eu khadgar etysh |
| 19:19.50 | cncfanatics | thats our resto shammy |
| 19:19.50 | ThraeBot | cncfanatics: Etysh, Level 70 Tauren Shaman (0/5/56). 8021 HP; 10088 Mana; 204 mana regen; 85 mp5; 8999 Armour; 4.03% melee crit; 37 spell crit; 207 +spell dmg; 1318 +heal; 4.03% dodge; 5% block; 68 resilience; [[ Link: http://tinyurl.com/2hzg89 ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/3cs6d8 ]] |
| 19:20.00 | cncfanatics | 56 resto too |
| 19:20.01 | RaydenUni | the exe download is a 48mb video |
| 19:20.14 | deltron | I'd show you my armory, but I'm not resto atm |
| 19:20.16 | Amadeo | aww |
| 19:20.18 | Xuerian | good lord stage6's search sucks DONKEY NUTS |
| 19:20.19 | Amadeo | I want a high quality one |
| 19:20.19 | deltron | !char us suramar diode |
| 19:20.22 | ThraeBot | deltron: Diode, Level 70 Troll Shaman (41/0/20). 7679 HP; 9308 Mana; 183 mana regen; 82 mp5; 9127 Armour; 4.55% melee crit; 262 spell crit; 36 spell hit; 643 +spell dmg/heal; 4.55% dodge; 5% block; 28 resilience; [[ Link: http://tinyurl.com/236ft3 ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/3y4nm5 ]] |
| 19:21.04 | Amadeo | Leeroy Jenkins |
| 19:21.05 | Amadeo | hahahahaha |
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| 19:21.24 | RaydenUni | so in tournaments you use your normal gear? |
| 19:21.29 | RaydenUni | so it's not entirely skill? |
| 19:21.31 | Amadeo | Leeroy is at BlizzCon |
| 19:21.36 | Fisker- | btw |
| 19:21.41 | deltron | he is? |
| 19:21.45 | Fisker- | what is the black dragonflight doing in northrend? :( |
| 19:21.46 | Amadeo | Yes |
| 19:21.47 | Amadeo | he just spoke |
| 19:21.48 | Amadeo | hahah |
| 19:21.56 | deltron | US wrath site is up |
| 19:22.09 | Fisker- | EU were first |
| 19:22.10 | Fisker- | serverfirst! |
| 19:22.52 | Amadeo | content is the same, so doesn't matter to me |
| 19:23.02 | RaydenUni | so the blizzard pvp is faster than the developers site for me |
| 19:23.31 | RaydenUni | the life feed is talking about the arena tournament now |
| 19:24.04 | RaydenUni | oh talking about starcraft tournament |
| 19:24.11 | RaydenUni | one guy just asked if korea is still dominant |
| 19:24.24 | Amadeo | that's Leeroy Jenkins with the blonde hair |
| 19:24.26 | dreamss2 | <fn'Fisker-> what is the black dragonflight doing in northrend? :( |
| 19:24.34 | dreamss2 | nef dad? |
| 19:24.53 | durcyn | Deathwing would be interesting. |
| 19:25.08 | cncfanatics | whats the link the livestream ? |
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| 19:25.17 | dreamss2 | im expecting a istance like aq40 |
| 19:25.21 | dreamss2 | bugs/tunnels |
| 19:25.32 | Fisker- | well deathwing is still alive |
| 19:25.35 | Fisker- | but presumably in northrend |
| 19:25.38 | durcyn | dreamss2: lots of spiders |
| 19:25.39 | Amadeo | oh wow! |
| 19:25.44 | Amadeo | New Observer mode for WoW Arenas |
| 19:25.45 | Amadeo | sweet |
| 19:25.50 | RaydenUni | yeah |
| 19:25.53 | RaydenUni | like GW |
| 19:26.10 | Amadeo | but without the suck! |
| 19:26.25 | *** join/#wowace sunset (n=sun@ARouen-152-1-63-54.w90-22.abo.wanadoo.fr) |
| 19:26.56 | cncfanatics | Amadeo, where ? |
| 19:27.06 | Amadeo | they said it on the blizzcon stream |
| 19:27.06 | Kyahx | Amadeo: where are you seeing observer mode? |
| 19:27.13 | Kyahx | I didn't hear it |
| 19:27.22 | *** join/#wowace Raz^^ (i=alyx-@r4ay106.net.upc.cz) |
| 19:27.22 | Amadeo | they just did an interview with 3 people |
| 19:27.27 | Amadeo | talking about starcraft/warcraft, and finally WoW |
| 19:27.35 | Amadeo | and Leeroy spoke of the observer mode |
| 19:27.37 | dreamss2 | its comming next patch |
| 19:27.52 | dreamss2 | with the voip |
| 19:27.55 | cncfanatics | great |
| 19:28.00 | cncfanatics | now, WHERE CAN I find a livestream |
| 19:28.20 | Chompers | level 80 makes me a sad panda |
| 19:28.29 | fireglow | ;( |
| 19:28.39 | RaydenUni | oh that was leeroy? |
| 19:28.42 | RaydenUni | i didn't recognize him |
| 19:28.44 | dreamss2 | http://www.wowwiki.com/Coming_Soon |
| 19:28.49 | dreamss2 | need to update that |
| 19:28.52 | RaydenUni | http://www.giga.de/2/live/free/# |
| 19:28.54 | Chompers | i don't want to level my characters ANOTHER 10 levels, it's stupid |
| 19:28.55 | Xuerian | Know what's scary |
| 19:29.02 | Xuerian | The only thing that's attractive to me in that movie |
| 19:29.04 | Fisker- | why is it stupid? |
| 19:29.05 | Xuerian | "Customizable Hairstyles" |
| 19:29.09 | Fisker- | nice |
| 19:29.10 | dreamss2 | hahaha |
| 19:29.13 | dreamss2 | and dancing? |
| 19:29.18 | Xuerian | Not even that |
| 19:29.26 | Xuerian | XD |
| 19:29.32 | Keias | I can live leveling another 10 in like 5 months from now |
| 19:29.35 | *** join/#wowace [quoin] (n=quoin@219-90-243-88.ip.adam.com.au) |
| 19:29.35 | Chompers | how many people will actually see the black temple before this new addon Fisker-? |
| 19:29.44 | Xuerian | It's just like naxx |
| 19:29.50 | Xuerian | Lots of guilds never touched naxx before bc |
| 19:30.09 | Chompers | i've never been inside naxx |
| 19:30.19 | jme | i've never been inside anything other than kara :O |
| 19:30.21 | Xuerian | Never even made attunement myself |
| 19:30.23 | cncfanatics | heck, i'm in gruul damnit |
| 19:30.24 | Keias | Many many many more people are raiding now than before |
| 19:30.25 | Chompers | firemaw was as far as i got |
| 19:30.28 | Xuerian | jme: nubface |
| 19:30.31 | jme | well i pugged MC once |
| 19:30.34 | cncfanatics | twins here |
| 19:30.35 | Mudkipz | its not like ther eis a deadline for the new expansion |
| 19:30.36 | cncfanatics | prebc |
| 19:30.38 | jme | Xuerian: december 11th! |
| 19:30.40 | Mudkipz | remember we still have patch 2.2 |
| 19:30.44 | cncfanatics | and, its just been announced, we have a wail |
| 19:30.46 | Mudkipz | so no need to worry |
| 19:30.46 | cncfanatics | while* |
| 19:30.48 | Xuerian | jme: August 1st! ... 04. >_> |
| 19:30.52 | jme | Xuerian: :X |
| 19:31.05 | Amadeo | So is Arthas like the strongest enemy in WoW lore? |
| 19:31.09 | RaydenUni | at least 1 year till lich |
| 19:31.09 | mitch1 | okay, one of my guildmates can't install Omen |
| 19:31.21 | jme | Xuerian: account created on dec 11th yet my main is a BE |
| 19:31.32 | jme | shows how much i played until i got tbc |
| 19:32.04 | Thrae | Amadeo: Look at wowwiki for more information, but from what I remember, Arthas merged with the Lich King and thus gained immeasurable power, far beyond Illidan's, rivaling Titans. |
| 19:32.08 | RaydenUni | <Amadeo> So is Arthas like the strongest enemy in WoW lore? <-- not necessarily, but he is perhaps the most important |
| 19:32.13 | RaydenUni | at leas tin war3 |
| 19:32.21 | Amadeo | I see |
| 19:32.21 | Fisker- | lol |
| 19:32.29 | mitch1 | says he put it in interface\addons, yet it doesn't show up in the addons listing page after login |
| 19:32.36 | Chompers | what about sargeras? |
| 19:32.39 | Amadeo | I think there should be a boss that can't be killed |
| 19:32.44 | Amadeo | that you still interact with |
| 19:32.55 | dreamss2 | the problem with wow lore, they can allways make stronger bosses |
| 19:32.55 | mitch1 | anyone got any idea what could be the problem here? downloaded the zip from files.wowace.com |
| 19:33.12 | dreamss2 | Amadeo illidan cant be killed |
| 19:33.15 | Amadeo | dreamss2: But if they're making stronger bosses just for a game, the story will suffer |
| 19:33.16 | Antiarc|Work | http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/wrath/images/screenshots/ss11-hires.jpg |
| 19:33.19 | cncfanatics | CHompers, go read ur lore |
| 19:33.32 | dreamss2 | after u beat him, he talks shit in shattra |
| 19:33.35 | cncfanatics | Sargeras has no body anymore |
| 19:33.44 | Amadeo | lol |
| 19:33.47 | Antiarc|Work | mitch1: He's probably installing to addons\Omen\Omen rather than Addons\Omen |
| 19:33.50 | RaydenUni | good grief. have a birthday and you are the most popular person on facebook |
| 19:34.07 | Amadeo | I thought you just needed emo hair to be the most popular person on facebook |
| 19:34.17 | Keias | and makeup |
| 19:34.21 | Keias | That, or boobs |
| 19:34.26 | RaydenUni | you are thinking of myspace |
| 19:34.27 | Amadeo | or all of the above |
| 19:34.27 | Keias | With the willingness to show them |
| 19:34.35 | Keias | There is no difference any more |
| 19:34.37 | dreamss2 | Amadeo, they can bring out bosses from the elemental plane |
| 19:34.41 | Amadeo | I'm thinking of all of the online community sites :P |
| 19:34.46 | dreamss2 | which i think titans have no control of |
| 19:34.47 | Keias | Not since Facebook removed the school email policy |
| 19:35.20 | kenlyric | facebook is myspace, myspace is facebook. |
| 19:35.33 | Amadeo | Your face is my space |
| 19:35.37 | Amadeo | ! |
| 19:35.39 | RaydenUni | tichondrius better not be killable |
| 19:35.42 | mitch1 | damn I hate remote-controlling computer illiterate ppl |
| 19:35.47 | durcyn | nah. myspace is for teenaged ewhores, facebook is for twentysomething ewhores. |
| 19:35.51 | kenlyric | lots of emo college kids, too. |
| 19:35.54 | Amadeo | haha |
| 19:35.55 | durcyn | but they're all ewhores |
| 19:36.11 | RaydenUni | oh, he got vanquished by illidan |
| 19:36.16 | kenlyric | at least the naked chicks on facebook won't get you arested for watching their webcams. |
| 19:36.18 | Rccsv | Isn't Tichordrius already.. yeah. |
| 19:36.40 | mitch1 | Instructions: "rightclick on it, properties, then copy-paste the Location: field from there" |
| 19:36.45 | mitch1 | response: " hm...." |
| 19:37.00 | mitch1 | imma gonna /cry |
| 19:37.11 | Thrae | Amadeo: Yeah, it seems Arthas, after combining with the Lich King, has gained godlike power. In fact, according the Warcraft RPG, he's completely immortal, with the possibility of one weakness. |
| 19:37.34 | RaydenUni | Mephistroth and Anatheron are still around |
| 19:37.48 | Amadeo | Thrae: One weakness...the upcoming level 80 Death Knight Hero??? |
| 19:37.52 | Amadeo | haha |
| 19:37.53 | Matrix110 | Arthas is vulnerable to fire |
| 19:37.54 | Matrix110 | ! |
| 19:38.01 | dreamss2 | melt his face? |
| 19:38.02 | dreamss2 | hehe |
| 19:38.03 | CIA-32 | 03cryect * r45653 10Recount/ (GUI_Detail.lua GUI_Main.lua textures/arrow.tga): Recount - Fixes a few bugs in the detail window and makes it easier to tell if you are locked on something by an added arrow being shown |
| 19:38.35 | cncfanatics | some question |
| 19:38.39 | Thrae | Amadeo: Given that the Lich King was based off a Shaman, then a Necromancer, then merged with a Paladin, who had become a Death Knight, he probably has access to almost every power as we know it. |
| 19:38.41 | cncfanatics | never saw an illidan fight |
| 19:38.52 | cncfanatics | does illidan actualy die in BT ? |
| 19:38.55 | Frostx- | yes |
| 19:38.56 | Thrae | Amadeo: Why would a former Death Knight be vulnerable to Death Knights? |
| 19:39.05 | cncfanatics | thats lame |
| 19:39.07 | Amadeo | Because it's the new WoW class! |
| 19:39.12 | dreamss2 | Death Knight cant use nature or holy |
| 19:39.15 | dreamss2 | just shaodw right |
| 19:39.19 | cncfanatics | nah |
| 19:39.23 | cncfanatics | prolly fire & shadow |
| 19:39.27 | dreamss2 | wait |
| 19:39.28 | Frostx- | frost/blood/unholy runes |
| 19:39.30 | dreamss2 | their rune thing |
| 19:39.36 | cncfanatics | hmmmm |
| 19:39.38 | dreamss2 | blood fire frost? |
| 19:39.41 | cncfanatics | might see a new school there |
| 19:39.44 | RaydenUni | any of you guys have an idea of how the runes work? |
| 19:39.46 | Frostx- | its probably just frost and shadow |
| 19:39.59 | durcyn | blood implies self-heals and physical to me |
| 19:39.59 | Thrae | cncfanatics: Illidan lost a LOT of power after Arthas nearly killed him. |
| 19:40.01 | RaydenUni | one guy suggested that different spells require different runes, and after you use a rune it takes a while to come back and you can use it again |
| 19:40.05 | Frostx- | blood would be under shadow |
| 19:40.10 | Frostx- | something like lifetap i suppose |
| 19:40.10 | RaydenUni | <durcyn> blood implies self-heals and physical to me <-- draining enemy blood |
| 19:40.12 | dreamss2 | sec |
| 19:40.16 | jme | ok, still slightly confused |
| 19:40.21 | RaydenUni | unholy fury and stuff like that |
| 19:40.22 | jme | are death knights only for high level pallies? or any class? |
| 19:40.25 | mitch1 | antiarc: will you take a look at my patch-branch? (Omen-ToggleFix) |
| 19:40.26 | Cryect | its a combo point system where abilities require different points and each point has different cooldowns |
| 19:40.27 | Thrae | There were "Blood Mages" in WC3:TFN, but they used Shadow spells I believe. |
| 19:40.32 | Cryect | and you can only have so many points activated at a time |
| 19:40.33 | dreamss2 | illdan got saved by lady vash and prince kael |
| 19:40.33 | Fisker- | Thrae Arthas didn't even have a lot of power then anyways? |
| 19:40.49 | dreamss2 | Rather than using rage, energy, or mana, Death Knights have a special "rune sword" displayed beneath their health bar, onto which the player can etch six different runes (choose between Frost, Blood, and Unholy) |
| 19:40.54 | Amadeo | This is what I expect of the Death Knight: Reused armor textures, unique rune system, with the same reused but tweaked spells/effects already in game...lol |
| 19:41.05 | RaydenUni | Arthas was a prince paladin. nothing too spectacular until he became tainted |
| 19:41.05 | dreamss2 | Unholy =/= shadow? |
| 19:41.06 | Amadeo | and Northrend: Reused mob textures |
| 19:41.20 | NeoTron | walrus people! |
| 19:41.23 | Antiarc|Work | mitch1: I will, but I don't have a whole lot of time to do it right now |
| 19:41.30 | Frostx- | i doubt they'd make a new resistance school |
| 19:41.34 | cncfanatics | Thrae, its still a lore personage |
| 19:41.36 | RaydenUni | dreamss2 probably shadow seeing as how Death Coil is a definitive death knight spell |
| 19:41.41 | Thrae | Amadeo: That's how the Diablo 2 expansion went down, but it was still pretty innovative with the Assasin and Druid classes. The "Combo Points" and "Shapeshifting" were pretty damn cool. |
| 19:41.43 | cncfanatics | shouldnt let him die, just go so he runs at 1% hp |
| 19:41.51 | Diao | where's this specific info |
| 19:41.54 | Diao | on the deathknight o_O |
| 19:41.58 | Amadeo | Thrae: Game will still be fun, no doubt...just wish they'd put some more effort into their great ideas |
| 19:42.10 | dreamss2 | they prolly add more hero classes |
| 19:42.13 | dreamss2 | farseer |
| 19:42.13 | cncfanatics | Amadeo, I'll probably go over to warhammer online anyway |
| 19:42.14 | Thrae | Fisker-: Arthas is godlike atm |
| 19:42.23 | dreamss2 | and melee one |
| 19:42.27 | NeoTron | kind of lame if everyone was a bloodknight |
| 19:42.33 | cncfanatics | deathknight |
| 19:42.34 | NeoTron | death knight even |
| 19:42.35 | RaydenUni | i was really hoping DK would nto be the only hero class, but since it seems like DK is going to be end game raid only... |
| 19:42.36 | Amadeo | cncfanatics: I dunno, seems like Blizzard is going to compete heavily with Warhammer and end up just killing it |
| 19:42.38 | cncfanatics | bloodnight is a belf paladin |
| 19:42.49 | RaydenUni | http://www.wowinsider.com/2007/08/03/death-knight-details/ |
| 19:42.53 | cncfanatics | Amadeo, WoW is way too much of a grindfest atm |
| 19:42.55 | durcyn | Amadeo: i dunno, hero classes have been a long time coming. |
| 19:43.01 | cncfanatics | and they're trying to balance their PvE game to PvP too much |
| 19:43.05 | durcyn | Amadeo: if they do them right, they might not suck |
| 19:43.13 | dreamss2 | were just egtting what was promised at launch |
| 19:43.17 | dreamss2 | siege and hero classes |
| 19:43.20 | Thrae | Amadeo: Warhammer and WoW are in two different classes of MMORPG -- Warhammer is VERY PvP heavy, while we all know WoW's PvP generally sucks compared to DAoC's refinement. |
| 19:43.23 | RaydenUni | promised? bleh |
| 19:43.49 | Amadeo | Thrae: Yeah, but I imagine WoW starting to migrate over...look at this new Siege and Destructable object PvP in WoW...that's totally because of Warhammer |
| 19:44.07 | Thrae | Amadeo: Actually that's more from DAoC, not Warhammer |
| 19:44.13 | Amadeo | Not what it's from |
| 19:44.15 | RaydenUni | blizzard and arenanet should rejoin to make World of Guildcraft! |
| 19:44.15 | Amadeo | but why, I mean |
| 19:44.17 | Amadeo | for competition |
| 19:44.22 | Thrae | Amadeo: DAoC had Seige units basically from day one |
| 19:44.33 | Amadeo | Yeah, but WoW has no competition |
| 19:44.33 | Thrae | Amadeo: WoW was -suppose- to have them from day one ;) |
| 19:44.40 | Amadeo | and Warhammer will be the first |
| 19:44.45 | Amadeo | so it's time to feature war them :) |
| 19:44.53 | RaydenUni | Amadeo i'm sure development on siege engines was ONLY started after someone from blizzard saw warhammer doing it |
| 19:44.53 | cncfanatics | I loved WoW back wen it was heavy PvE |
| 19:44.55 | cncfanatics | fuck WoW PvP |
| 19:45.13 | Thrae | Yeah, I'm just saying, their competition won't be like WoW vs DAoC, or WoW vs EQ2, etc. They'll be competing on different terms. |
| 19:45.15 | RaydenUni | we all know siege engines are the sole reason for people playing warhammer and not wow |
| 19:45.23 | dreamss2 | so what about flying mounts |
| 19:45.31 | Frostx- | WoW is still heavy PvE |
| 19:45.35 | RaydenUni | new to northrend are hopping mounts |
| 19:45.38 | RaydenUni | you ride huge frogs |
| 19:45.40 | Amadeo | Thrae: Yeah, I've been pretty excited about Warhammer because I love PvP, but seeing this new stuff, I start to wonder |
| 19:45.43 | jme | RaydenUni: ... |
| 19:45.47 | Fisker- | HAHAHA |
| 19:45.52 | jme | heh |
| 19:45.55 | Fisker- | How the @#*@ can you be proud of anything like that? |
| 19:45.55 | Fisker- | It's so obvious it's only designed to lure morons to the game and get their money that it's sad... |
| 19:46.03 | Fisker- | response> |
| 19:46.03 | Fisker- | A company out to make money??? |
| 19:46.04 | Fisker- | what next, the wheel? |
| 19:46.06 | Fisker- | :D |
| 19:46.06 | Thrae | RaydenUni: Something similiar has already been in DAoC for quite a while |
| 19:46.08 | RaydenUni | yay trailer is downloaded |
| 19:46.14 | RaydenUni | omg daoc stole it too! |
| 19:46.16 | Chompers | ahaha |
| 19:46.16 | jme | Fisker-: a comment about northrend? |
| 19:46.34 | Fisker- | yeah |
| 19:46.37 | jme | heh |
| 19:46.56 | Thrae | Amadeo: You must remember though, Mythic has shown VERY solid results with PvP -- DAoC was amazing from day one, while Blizzard only has experience with RTSs for the PvP side. |
| 19:46.59 | jme | oh yeah, i had another "ace2 or gtfo" comment for you earlier but i don't remember where i saw it |
| 19:47.14 | Amadeo | Thrae: Yeah, I totally agree...DAoC was awesome for PvP initially |
| 19:47.17 | jme | wait hang on |
| 19:47.24 | Frostx- | We'll probably see the PVE'rs sticking to WOW |
| 19:47.30 | Frostx- | while the hardcore PVPers move to WAR |
| 19:47.30 | Amadeo | Thrae: Kinda disappointed in Warhammer's graphics right now, though |
| 19:47.54 | Thrae | Amadeo: Blizzard has a steep learning curve, while Warhammer is developed partly by former DAoC developers |
| 19:47.54 | Keias | I bet Warhammer is going to be like |
| 19:48.03 | Keias | The video game version of Snakes on a Plane |
| 19:48.07 | Keias | Huge hype machine |
| 19:48.24 | Amadeo | Thrae: Yeah, that's what I'm banking on |
| 19:48.37 | Amadeo | Mythic had the best MMO launch to date, at least that I was a part of |
| 19:48.39 | Amadeo | they had like no problems |
| 19:48.54 | Aenslaed | Keias: if its anything like daoc, the pvp will be better than wow's pvp by far. |
| 19:49.09 | Keias | And if it's anything like DAoC, the class balance will be way worse than WoW's :P |
| 19:49.12 | Thrae | Amadeo: Usually graphics are pretty rough at earlier stages of a game's design -- "touching up" the graphics, among other optimizations, is left until the last minute. Obviously, gameplay comes first, with decent graphics to boot. WoW's graphics were damn cartoony to start off with anyway. They weren't nearly as impressive as they are now, and Warhammer is starting with a brand-new graphics engine, while WoW has to build on its old one. |
| 19:49.21 | Diao | didnt' daoc have zero class balance whatsoever |
| 19:49.30 | Keias | Mezzers ftw |
| 19:49.48 | Aenslaed | the class balance was fine for the most part. A couple individual classes would get overpowered from environmental causes but they got addressed quickly |
| 19:49.51 | Amadeo | Thrae: but the game is due sometime early next year, that's not too far off |
| 19:50.05 | Thrae | Keias: DAoC is far better then WoW for PvP class balance. |
| 19:50.11 | Keias | I never found it to be |
| 19:50.25 | Amadeo | I always thought it was |
| 19:50.27 | Keias | Unless WAR has some PVE, I don't think it'll cater to many either. |
| 19:50.32 | Keias | At least SOME |
| 19:50.33 | CIA-32 | 03gagorian * r45654 10DrDamage/Melee.lua: |
| 19:50.33 | CIA-32 | DrDamage: |
| 19:50.33 | CIA-32 | - A small fix to windfury |
| 19:50.41 | Amadeo | Blizzard doesn't really have a plan behind class balance |
| 19:50.46 | Amadeo | they just claim things |
| 19:50.54 | Thrae | Keias: Well, you can never take 1v1 as a balancing factor anyway |
| 19:50.55 | RaydenUni | omg |
| 19:50.58 | Keias | They just nerf a lot of shit according to community reactions |
| 19:50.59 | RaydenUni | the trailer is ridiculous |
| 19:51.05 | Matrix110 | who the fuck cares about class balance i want class imbalances |
| 19:51.09 | Amadeo | Keias: Yes, BIG time |
| 19:51.16 | RaydenUni | level 80! northrend! deathknight! new hairstyles? wtf? |
| 19:51.20 | Thrae | Keias: You might be surprised -- there still hasn't been a really, really good PvP RPG-style MMORPG |
| 19:51.26 | Matrix110 | Balanced things make a game boring |
| 19:51.30 | Keias | I know that Thrae :( |
| 19:51.33 | Keias | I'm hoping for one TBH |
| 19:51.39 | Keias | But I understand how it'll be tough to pull off |
| 19:51.42 | RaydenUni | thrae you don't count GW? |
| 19:51.47 | Amadeo | Thrae: Baldur's Gate MMORPG, Oblivion MMORPG |
| 19:51.50 | Keias | Especially since if people wanted zero PVE, they can just go play FPS's |
| 19:51.50 | Amadeo | that's what I want :P |
| 19:52.05 | RaydenUni | GW has zero pve |
| 19:52.08 | RaydenUni | if you want it to |
| 19:52.08 | Keias | Finding a good balance between the two is very difficult |
| 19:52.25 | Thrae | RaydenUni: GW still doesn't shine, it's good, but doesn't really shine |
| 19:52.32 | dreamss2 | so they gonna allow us to use flying mounts to lvl after 70? |
| 19:52.33 | RaydenUni | eh |
| 19:52.37 | Keias | Hopefully there isn't such a huge fucking focus on crowd control with WAR |
| 19:52.38 | RaydenUni | it seems to be doing pretty darn well |
| 19:52.39 | Thrae | RaydenUni: There's not really a feeling of "epicness" to it that existed even in DAoC |
| 19:52.54 | RaydenUni | epicness? |
| 19:52.55 | Keias | Plus, well, I lost a lot of faith when EA picked up Mythic |
| 19:52.57 | Thrae | RaydenUni: That's because it has solid support overseas |
| 19:53.04 | RaydenUni | in what sense? art or gameplay? |
| 19:53.09 | Thrae | RaydenUni: Gameplay |
| 19:53.10 | Amadeo | Keias: All publishers are bad, doesn't matter who it is |
| 19:53.18 | Amadeo | Vivendi Universal is one of the worst |
| 19:53.23 | Amadeo | but WoW turned out ok |
| 19:53.26 | Keias | Not all publishers have ruined tons of games I thoroughly enjoyed |
| 19:53.30 | RaydenUni | i really enjoyed GW |
| 19:53.31 | Keias | EA can only make sports games imo |
| 19:53.37 | Keias | well |
| 19:53.38 | RaydenUni | EA doesn't make most of their games |
| 19:53.39 | Keias | Publish :P |
| 19:53.40 | Amadeo | Keias: I think you'd be surprised about VU :) |
| 19:53.47 | RaydenUni | EA publishes battlefield |
| 19:53.53 | durcyn | Amadeo: the game itself is okay, i guess. but someone's spent 3 years taking the old war2 lore and skullfucking it. |
| 19:54.00 | *** join/#wowace harldephin (i=harl@dslb-088-076-033-237.pools.arcor-ip.net) |
| 19:54.03 | cncfanatics | Keias, they just publish it :p |
| 19:54.05 | Keias | Never liked the battlefield series |
| 19:54.13 | RaydenUni | never liked battlefield? |
| 19:54.14 | cncfanatics | EA mythic is doing an amazing job this far from what i've seen |
| 19:54.16 | Keias | Nope |
| 19:54.23 | RaydenUni | oh man. when the Wake Island demo came it it was AWESOME |
| 19:54.26 | Thrae | In DAoC, a raid of 80 people against another 80 people, not including CUSTOM NPCs, getting boiling oil poured on them, catapults launching projectiles, Archers and Mages able to shoot from atop a tower and gain improved range, etc. |
| 19:54.27 | Keias | Only FPS type game I've ever really liked were UT and Quake, I suppose |
| 19:54.33 | Amadeo | Keias: Vivendi Universal is the reason Bill Roper and all those people left Blizzard |
| 19:54.45 | Aenslaed | Thrae: leading those was so much fun |
| 19:54.46 | Keias | Amadeo, I'm aware. |
| 19:54.49 | Chompers | you forgot Tribes2 |
| 19:54.56 | Amadeo | So that doesn't count as ruining things? :) |
| 19:54.59 | Keias | Tribes is a game I wish I played :( |
| 19:55.11 | RaydenUni | tribes is a game with an insanely steep learning curve |
| 19:55.24 | cncfanatics | hmmm, EA mythic is going to be the first I know of that will make tanks usefull in PvP |
| 19:55.31 | Aenslaed | Thrae: those were way more fun than raiding. Have climbers set up ground targets for the trebuchets, rezzer party. siege ram teams, etc |
| 19:55.36 | RaydenUni | what is EA mythic? |
| 19:55.41 | Thrae | Aenslaed: Hell yeah, and it's not even like you lose anything by leaving the raid, or have problems joining a far-away raid -- something WoW harshly lacks for its clone using AV |
| 19:55.48 | cncfanatics | the company's behind warhammer online |
| 19:55.55 | xyu | Rather than using rage, energy, or mana, Death Knights have a special "rune sword" displayed beneath their health bar, onto which the player can etch six different runes (choose between Frost, Blood, and Unholy). |
| 19:56.03 | cncfanatics | xyu, we know |
| 19:56.05 | RaydenUni | xyu old news |
| 19:56.06 | xyu | oh |
| 19:56.07 | xyu | :P |
| 19:56.09 | xyu | yea yeah |
| 19:56.15 | xyu | I was watching a movie |
| 19:56.28 | RaydenUni | sounds like an interesting gimmick |
| 19:56.32 | xyu | i didn't actually bother reading |
| 19:56.34 | RaydenUni | wish i could play one from level 1 |
| 19:56.39 | dreamss2 | sounds like totems should been :P |
| 19:56.56 | Thrae | Amadeo, Aenslaed: That's why I think Blizzard will have an especially tough time. We all know how much people hate AV, and it was pretty horrible when it first came out. AV was clearly Blizzard's attempt at taking the Realm vs Realm aspect from DAoC -- if you've ever played DAoC, you'll notice the striking simularities. |
| 19:57.12 | Thrae | AV still is pretty horrible |
| 19:57.27 | durcyn | AV was fine, then they ripped out all the NPCs and turned it into a race |
| 19:57.39 | Fisker- | they have added voicechat on PTR now |
| 19:57.41 | xyu | Yeah but RvR was like....fun |
| 19:57.46 | Fisker- | well |
| 19:57.49 | Fisker- | they have added the ui for it |
| 19:57.52 | xyu | They need to take Darkness Falls |
| 19:57.55 | xyu | From DAoC |
| 19:57.57 | Thrae | durcyn: Yeah, all their PvP is based on a race concept |
| 19:58.00 | RaydenUni | oh, so no news on the voice quality? |
| 19:58.04 | xyu | get us some pvp PVE :D |
| 19:58.16 | Thrae | durcyn: WoW's, that is. Very King Of The Hill. |
| 19:58.23 | Amadeo | Thrae: I hate AV with a passion |
| 19:58.27 | xyu | WoW's is just who can PVE faster |
| 19:58.29 | Aenslaed | durcyn: but AV discourages fighting people. |
| 19:58.34 | Thrae | Amadeo: Most do |
| 19:58.36 | xyu | I hate to say this but i liked AV more when it was Zerg vs zerg |
| 19:58.37 | durcyn | Thrae: aye. the only thing wrong with av 1.0 was korrack, really |
| 19:58.39 | xyu | not that it was good then either. |
| 19:58.45 | Aenslaed | landmines |
| 19:58.48 | xyu | but it's better than this crap now |
| 19:58.49 | Aenslaed | land mines |
| 19:58.51 | Arrowmaster | korrak was fun |
| 19:58.53 | durcyn | Thrae: it wasn't a race, it was strategic. who can bottle who in at Iceblood |
| 19:58.53 | Aenslaed | ruined AV |
| 19:58.55 | Keias | Korrak was awesome |
| 19:59.02 | Amadeo | Thrae: Thinking about things, you're right...PvP in WoW is pretty weak...even with these changes, it will be...on my server the queues are 30 minutes for anything |
| 19:59.09 | Arrowmaster | i actually still have the quest to kill korrak for more of the teleport runes |
| 19:59.12 | Keias | o_O |
| 19:59.15 | Keias | What server do you play on? |
| 19:59.16 | durcyn | if you could defend with 10 at a choke point, then attack the right targets with your other 30, you'd win |
| 19:59.17 | Aenslaed | conducting a realm war was very very fun though. |
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| 19:59.25 | Amadeo | Keias: Auchindoun for my new guy :) |
| 19:59.30 | Keias | rofl |
| 19:59.32 | Keias | I had a lock there |
| 19:59.35 | Amadeo | I've asked a bunch of people about queues |
| 19:59.35 | Thrae | Amadeo: You have to look at past accomplishments. Blizzard put all that effort into an expansion, and the resulting new BG is just AB + WSG. Wow, such innovation... |
| 19:59.36 | Keias | Was it horde? |
| 19:59.37 | Amadeo | they said it's horrible |
| 19:59.38 | Amadeo | yep |
| 19:59.40 | Keias | haha |
| 19:59.43 | Keias | It used to be like |
| 19:59.47 | Keias | 3 hours for a WSG queue |
| 19:59.50 | Keias | No exaggerate |
| 19:59.51 | Amadeo | wow |
| 19:59.53 | Keias | tion* |
| 19:59.56 | Amadeo | what's the deal with that? |
| 20:00.02 | Keias | There's not enough players on the BG |
| 20:00.04 | cncfanatics | 3mins for any BG queue |
| 20:00.05 | Keias | to fill a game lol |
| 20:00.05 | RaydenUni | mine are like 10 min |
| 20:00.09 | Amadeo | Thrae: Yeah...so I guess it's just you and me in Warhammer ;) |
| 20:00.10 | cncfanatics | long live the reckoning battlegroup |
| 20:00.22 | Keias | I went back to Bloodlust :) |
| 20:00.24 | cncfanatics | Amadeo, i'll be going over to warhammer too :) |
| 20:00.27 | Thrae | People also hate WSG because it's so easy to turtle and make the game last indefinately |
| 20:00.30 | Keias | Pretty much instant queues for almost everything |
| 20:00.31 | RaydenUni | you guys are missing the point. Blizzard has NEVER innovated |
| 20:00.37 | cncfanatics | indeed |
| 20:00.38 | Amadeo | :) |
| 20:00.38 | Keias | And horde win majority of nonAV pugs |
| 20:00.39 | RaydenUni | starcraft wasn't innovative, nor was wow |
| 20:00.46 | NeoTron | Blizzard perfects |
| 20:00.47 | Antiarc|Work | Blizzard tends to take concepts and do them better than anyone else. |
| 20:00.47 | cncfanatics | starcraft was innovative |
| 20:00.48 | RaydenUni | they simply do what everyone else is doing BETTER than it's ever been done |
| 20:00.54 | RaydenUni | cncfanatics how so? |
| 20:00.57 | Amadeo | Thrae: I'm worried about the interface stuff for Warhammer, though...you have any details on it? |
| 20:01.01 | cncfanatics | it was the first game with perfect balance |
| 20:01.01 | Thrae | RaydenUni: There's always -some- innovation. |
| 20:01.01 | Antiarc|Work | They don't have to innovate so much as just give people the best possible version of what they already love. |
| 20:01.03 | Aenslaed | its not a matter of innovation or not. Blizzard has failed to improve on existing ideas when it comes to pvp |
| 20:01.13 | Antiarc|Work | cncfanatics: That's not innovation, just polishing. |
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| 20:01.26 | cncfanatics | Antiarc|Work, I call it innovative for managing to do so :p |
| 20:01.27 | cncfanatics | blizzard is failing for the first time at WoW though |
| 20:01.32 | Thrae | Amadeo: I'm trying to get some info on it...DAoC's customization sucks compared to WoW, but you can't blame them since DAoC's engine is so much older then WoW's |
| 20:01.34 | Amadeo | I never thought StarCraft had perfect balance, but I dunno :P |
| 20:01.36 | cncfanatics | balance ? where |
| 20:01.44 | Thrae | Amadeo: I hear tales of Warhammer using something like Lua |
| 20:01.48 | RaydenUni | cncfanatics innovation requires you to think of something you've never thought of. thinking "oh i'll make this game balanced" isn't really innovative |
| 20:01.49 | Amadeo | Thrae: Yeah, actually...I was quite impressed with DAoC when it was new |
| 20:01.53 | Arrowmaster | all MMO's interfaces sucked compared to WoW |
| 20:01.55 | Antiarc|Work | It's a step above. I don't think RaydenUni means that Blizzard doesn't do things better than others. He just means that Blizzard tends to perfect existing ideas, rather than creating new ones. |
| 20:01.56 | cncfanatics | RaydenUni, true :p |
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| 20:02.10 | RaydenUni | <cncfanatics> blizzard is failing for the first time at WoW though <-- lol. tell the 9 million subscribers |
| 20:02.12 | Thrae | Amadeo: I did some customizations for DAoC, like a healer mod -- it was very cool. Minigroup was also very cool. |
| 20:02.25 | cncfanatics | RaydenUni, balance wise, and currently there's no big concurrent |
| 20:02.35 | cncfanatics | I wonder how much will be left after warhammer comes out tbh |
| 20:02.39 | kergoth | hehe, bigredkitty's new banner rocks - http://bp3.blogger.com/_zco-Xcn0Gag/RrNr4R0tcHI/AAAAAAAAByM/yCywj14_VhQ/s1600/newbanner5.png |
| 20:02.39 | Amadeo | Thrae: MiniGroup was bad ass :) |
| 20:02.40 | RaydenUni | no one else can compete because everyone wants to play wow |
| 20:02.42 | cncfanatics | lots of players in WoW are frustrated |
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| 20:02.47 | RaydenUni | sort of bad for the industry actually |
| 20:02.57 | cncfanatics | RaydenUni, half my guild is waiting for warhammer |
| 20:02.57 | RaydenUni | reminds me of when CS was super popular |
| 20:03.03 | RaydenUni | no other squad shooters could make it |
| 20:03.31 | Arrowmaster | lots of wow players are frustrated because they cant have fun in wow anymore due to the requirements of needing other to play and there being too many morons now imho |
| 20:03.35 | RaydenUni | i'm half looking forward to GW2 |
| 20:03.59 | Amadeo | I can't wait for WoW voice, it's going to be hilariously stupid |
| 20:04.01 | Arrowmaster | im waiting for TR, i really want to see what endgame is like in that |
| 20:04.04 | Fisker- | oh no you're not RaydenUni |
| 20:04.13 | Thrae | http://news.curse.com/details/745/ <-- Warhammer WILL use Lua addons |
| 20:04.19 | Amadeo | oh shit |
| 20:04.20 | Amadeo | :) |
| 20:04.29 | RaydenUni | i really enjoyed the first GW. played through it one summer with all my friends. one of my best gaming experiences. Factions we tired of quickly though |
| 20:04.41 | RaydenUni | i really like the gameplay and the mixing of spells |
| 20:05.13 | Arrowmaster | a bunch of friends and i all played GW since beta |
| 20:05.31 | kergoth | Thrae: sweet |
| 20:05.41 | Arrowmaster | i dont think i broke 400 hours played before i quit |
| 20:06.08 | vhaarr | Thrae: neat |
| 20:06.10 | RaydenUni | we couldn't get past the slums in prophecies |
| 20:06.15 | RaydenUni | uh, not prophecies factions |
| 20:06.24 | RaydenUni | once we got past those we were tired of factions |
| 20:06.29 | Thrae | I wonder how Blizzard and Mythic would feel if someone made a WoW->Warhammer compatibility layer, haha |
| 20:06.30 | Arrowmaster | played for first month then realized it wasnt any fun without a serious 8v8 team |
| 20:06.39 | kergoth | hahah, http://www.dilbert.com/comics/dilbert/archive/images/dilbert2007018331803.gif |
| 20:06.40 | Antiarc|Work | Thrae: Err. What? |
| 20:06.45 | Antiarc|Work | That doesn't even make sense |
| 20:07.04 | RaydenUni | i want a new wow client. all new graphics, compatible with wow |
| 20:07.04 | Thrae | You -know- people will start porting WoW addons to Warhammer, since it's all Lua anyway |
| 20:07.06 | cncfanatics | Info : Could not find channel EPGIGA.octotv800 |
| 20:07.07 | cncfanatics | sigh |
| 20:07.13 | Amadeo | Thrae: Yep |
| 20:07.26 | Amadeo | hahaha |
| 20:07.27 | cncfanatics | Thrae, if the API aint very different |
| 20:07.29 | Cryect | Thrae: they finally decided to let people do more than just skin in WAR? |
| 20:07.29 | Thrae | Antiarc|Work: Replace WoW functions with their Warhammer equivilent |
| 20:07.34 | cncfanatics | it shouldnt even be hard |
| 20:07.43 | Amadeo | The Blizzard guy just said they started daily quests to put "chinese gold farmers out of business" |
| 20:07.43 | Thrae | Cryect: According to this press release I'm reading |
| 20:07.44 | RaydenUni | but, the gameplay is entirely different i'm guessing |
| 20:07.56 | cncfanatics | Thrae, might be a bit harder for actionbuttons and stuff |
| 20:07.56 | RaydenUni | that would be like trying to play starcraft against war3 |
| 20:08.03 | Thrae | cncfanatics: Probably |
| 20:08.04 | Cryect | nice then I might be converted then |
| 20:08.06 | RaydenUni | how damage is determined is different |
| 20:08.15 | RaydenUni | how armor works |
| 20:08.16 | cncfanatics | ah well, FlexBar3 when warhammer comes out :p |
| 20:08.17 | RaydenUni | how spells work |
| 20:08.22 | cncfanatics | I better get FlexBar2 ready now |
| 20:08.37 | Amadeo | The BlizzCon stream is going again, talk on WoW |
| 20:08.49 | Thrae | In DAoC you can level through PvP -- this was introduced rather early on. I've been asking for PvP leveling in WoW from day one. They -had- PvP leveling in WoW, but took it away! |
| 20:08.59 | Thrae | Warhammer will have PvP leveling AND PvP drops, and that will so own |
| 20:09.05 | Amadeo | PvP drops? Hell yeah |
| 20:09.05 | RaydenUni | people don't want to outlevel their twinks |
| 20:09.24 | Thrae | RaydenUni: That wasn't a problem, since you could just not turn the marks in |
| 20:09.26 | RaydenUni | pvp drops as in you drop your gear when you die and someone else can pick it up? |
| 20:09.40 | Arrowmaster | no |
| 20:09.43 | Thrae | RaydenUni: I don't think so |
| 20:09.44 | cncfanatics | I rather think some kind of tokens, an ear or the like u can trade in for stuff ? |
| 20:09.46 | RaydenUni | old school mmo stuff :) |
| 20:09.50 | Thrae | "hat is something we are constantly working on balancing. It really is something we are going to have to tune as we go in order to make it as equal as possible. The same goes for Item drops from PvP - we need to see how it pans out and change it as it is needed." |
| 20:09.58 | Amadeo | He said Arthas isn't going to be an end-game raid, everyone gets to "hang out with Arthas" |
| 20:10.00 | Fisker- | haha |
| 20:10.03 | Fisker- | really bad at keeping CC |
| 20:10.06 | Thrae | "Q: How does leveling through PvP compare to PvE exp/hour wise? |
| 20:10.09 | Thrae | A: That is something we are constantly working on balancing. It really is something we are going to have to tune as we go in order to make it as equal as possible. The same goes for Item drops from PvP - we need to see how it pans out and change it as it is needed." |
| 20:10.26 | Thrae | So you can level from PvP or PvE, and it'll be about the same (if they balance it right) |
| 20:10.44 | cncfanatics | WTB warhammer |
| 20:10.47 | cncfanatics | btw |
| 20:10.52 | cncfanatics | anyone know if it'll work with wine ? |
| 20:10.56 | cncfanatics | aka, is there an opengl mode ? |
| 20:10.56 | Amadeo | Tom Chilton is going to talk about the Death Knight later |
| 20:11.06 | cncfanatics | AMadeo, stream not working for me :/ |
| 20:11.09 | cncfanatics | says channel doesnt exist |
| 20:11.16 | Fisker- | rofl |
| 20:11.16 | cncfanatics | Info : Could not find channel EPGIGA.octotv400 |
| 20:11.23 | Fisker- | is he going to be overpowered like the warlock? :P |
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| 20:11.46 | cncfanatics | hopefully |
| 20:11.49 | ccKep | it'll be a plate wearing warlock combined with a shadowpriest and a paladin ^.^ |
| 20:11.53 | cncfanatics | if he tanks better then my paladin I roll one |
| 20:12.09 | Amadeo | Fireball inscription - take Mages Fireball to have something like a knockback, further fire damage, etc |
| 20:12.17 | Amadeo | inscription example |
| 20:12.21 | cncfanatics | :o |
| 20:12.24 | cncfanatics | intresting |
| 20:12.26 | Arrowmaster | knockback? |
| 20:12.27 | RaydenUni | "perfectly balanced, he promises that" |
| 20:12.29 | Antiarc|Work | Holy shit, fireball with knockback |
| 20:12.30 | Amadeo | hahah |
| 20:12.35 | Thrae | No plans for Mac or Linux version of Warhammer Online at this time |
| 20:12.39 | Diao | i find it unlikely they'll make them better tanks than warriors unless their spells are very weak |
| 20:12.42 | Arrowmaster | yup time to find a new game to play |
| 20:12.44 | cncfanatics | Thrae, I know that, but will it be emulatable |
| 20:12.46 | Amadeo | Thrae: :( |
| 20:12.48 | Thrae | http://interviews.slashdot.org/interviews/06/11/27/1752236.shtml <-- Slashdot interview for more Warhammer info |
| 20:13.04 | RaydenUni | i love how you all are hearing about the expansion before anyone has seen it and are now ready to leave |
| 20:13.08 | Fisker- | nice |
| 20:13.11 | Fisker- | epic barbershows |
| 20:13.11 | cncfanatics | its usualy not hard for devs to make their game emulatable |
| 20:13.15 | Amadeo | lol |
| 20:13.17 | Thrae | cncfanatics: It may be difficult, since Warhammer Online's engine will be so new, and they'll push hard for 100% Vista compatibility |
| 20:13.41 | Thrae | cncfanatics: Vista breaks a lot of existing DirectX-based engines, and not just because of DirectX10 |
| 20:13.43 | Fisker- | lol |
| 20:13.50 | Fisker- | he definitely didn't rehearse that powerpoint |
| 20:14.02 | NeoTron | WO is a completely different game |
| 20:14.09 | Antiarc|Work | Looks like 11 zones in Northrend |
| 20:14.10 | Fisker- | can't count too |
| 20:14.10 | NeoTron | it's not a WoW killer etc yadayada |
| 20:14.15 | Fisker- | there were 5 marked zones |
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| 20:14.34 | Amadeo | "Northrend will have two points of entry" |
| 20:14.35 | Fisker- | wtf? |
| 20:14.36 | Antiarc|Work | 11 sections though |
| 20:14.41 | Arrowmaster | remember theres zones on the old worldmap that we still cant goto! |
| 20:14.53 | Fisker- | Something we learned with burning crusade were that there was only one entry |
| 20:15.05 | Fisker- | Sure, just make a new dark portal in orgrimmar right? |
| 20:15.09 | RaydenUni | there will be 10 zones in northrend supposedly |
| 20:15.19 | Fisker- | there's 11 |
| 20:15.20 | Thrae | "Now, you may be wondering how we're going to turn the average PvE-loving "kill ten squirrels and collect some magic daisies" player into a wild-eyed, combat-lusting RvR fanatic." <-- Warhammer will try to turn PvE'rs into PvP'rs ;) |
| 20:15.21 | Fisker- | on the map |
| 20:15.28 | Fisker- | unless the island is counted as 1 |
| 20:15.28 | Amadeo | Your mom's a Howling Fjord |
| 20:15.29 | Fisker- | then it's 10 |
| 20:15.33 | RaydenUni | i know, but what i read was 10 playable zones |
| 20:15.39 | RaydenUni | the island on the left is not a zone |
| 20:15.50 | RaydenUni | he just showed its part of the west starting zone |
| 20:15.50 | NeoTron | Thrae: doubt that'll work to nay large degree |
| 20:15.59 | Thrae | "2. Truckloads of Carrots: Warhammer Online's unique career advancement system awards players several times per rank, rather than once every (or every other) level. Gaining unique abilities, tactics, morale options and more all occur at various times within a single rank. This means that you are never far away from earning your next new enhancement for your character. Additionally, the Tome of Knowledge serves as a game-wide scavenger h |
| 20:16.41 | Thrae | NeoTron: Well, what they do is allow people to PvP at -any- time. IE, you don't have to run to some specific place to jump from PvE to PvP |
| 20:16.53 | NeoTron | I hate pvp |
| 20:17.03 | NeoTron | or rather I hate being disrupted by pvp when I'm playing the game |
| 20:17.05 | Thrae | NeoTron: RvR is different then traditional PvP |
| 20:17.17 | Thrae | NeoTron: Yeah, Warhammer doesn't work that way from the press releases |
| 20:17.20 | cncfanatics | lol |
| 20:17.26 | cncfanatics | loved the goblin nose part of the interview |
| 20:17.35 | NeoTron | see |
| 20:17.37 | cncfanatics | NeoTron, warhammer WILL be PvP |
| 20:17.46 | Thrae | "We also have four different varieties of RvR combat and each offers a unique player experience. In Skirmishes, it's a random encounter with an opponent (or group of opponents!) that leads to battle in the game world. In Battlefields, you are fighting for control of a landmark or resource for the benefit of your army. It could be just you against twenty enemies or a more even fight, depending on the importance placed on the objective at |
| 20:17.53 | NeoTron | people always paste random press release info etc and say how the game with be a "wow killer" |
| 20:18.05 | NeoTron | so far, 2.5 yrs later that hasn't panned out much has it? |
| 20:18.11 | Fisker- | omg wmp 9 |
| 20:18.12 | Fisker- | n00bs! |
| 20:18.29 | RaydenUni | cool, design layout |
| 20:18.31 | Thrae | NeoTron: The 'balanced' PvP might appeal to PvE'rs |
| 20:18.35 | NeoTron | warhammer might very well succeed, but it's a pvp mo |
| 20:18.36 | NeoTron | mmo |
| 20:18.46 | NeoTron | a majority of the wow players don't really live primarily for pvp |
| 20:19.00 | Keias | Thats why there's FPS's |
| 20:19.07 | alext | for us daoc people |
| 20:19.08 | NeoTron | the main unbalancing factor in pvp is skill |
| 20:19.10 | alext | we are dying for warhammer |
| 20:19.14 | NeoTron | I'm not a very good pvper |
| 20:19.15 | Amadeo | We do live for PvP, there's just nothing to live for in WoW :P |
| 20:19.24 | Keias | Yet you still play WoW? |
| 20:19.27 | Thrae | Keias: In a FPS, everyone's basically a Mage with 100 HP ;) |
| 20:19.36 | Keias | Can't get more balanced than that :D |
| 20:19.36 | RaydenUni | depends on the fps |
| 20:19.37 | Amadeo | Keias: I already told you that, I quit for about 4 months and I'm back leveling again while I wait for Warhammer |
| 20:19.39 | RaydenUni | but yeah |
| 20:19.46 | Keias | But if it's so bad, why play again? |
| 20:19.59 | Amadeo | I enjoy gaming, what else is there to play on a computer? |
| 20:20.04 | Amadeo | computer gaming is dead |
| 20:20.05 | RaydenUni | GW has good pvp |
| 20:20.06 | cncfanatics | NeoTron, I used to live for PvP |
| 20:20.10 | Keias | Not all of it is dead |
| 20:20.11 | Thrae | I'll probably keep playing both WoW and Warhammer, unless I like Warhammer's PvE aspect |
| 20:20.15 | cncfanatics | but WoW fucked it so hard I dont anymore |
| 20:20.18 | Keias | Hell, CS is still going |
| 20:20.20 | Thrae | Amadeo: Just wait until Fallout 3 |
| 20:20.25 | Fisker- | NICE |
| 20:20.27 | Amadeo | Gnomes have a town |
| 20:20.27 | Amadeo | hahahah |
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| 20:20.30 | Fisker- | airport @ gnomes |
| 20:20.32 | RaydenUni | airstrip? |
| 20:20.33 | RaydenUni | rofl |
| 20:20.35 | Fisker- | :D |
| 20:20.37 | NeoTron | I personally feel pvp is a mistake in pve games like WoW |
| 20:20.39 | Matrix110 | uh |
| 20:20.43 | Matrix110 | the IF airport |
| 20:20.43 | Thrae | Fallout 3 is being made by Bethsoft, and Bethsoft pwns your Computer RPG faces |
| 20:20.46 | Matrix110 | will be used then |
| 20:20.48 | NeoTron | balancing for PvP often fucks up pve balance / fun |
| 20:20.49 | Matrix110 | i bet |
| 20:20.51 | Amadeo | Thrae; Yeah, I can't wait :) |
| 20:20.53 | cncfanatics | Game Design, Content, Art and Production of the game were all well underway before the acquisition took place. Since then, we have received an immense amount of feedback on the game from within EA, and are using this feedback to make the game even better. In general though, they leave us to make the game and the decisions surrounding it. They acquired Mythic for it's MMO expertise, and they are letting us apply that expertise as |
| 20:20.54 | cncfanatics | lovely |
| 20:21.02 | cncfanatics | seems EA doesnt fuck around with mythic too much |
| 20:21.04 | Keias | That's what makes it tough to design a good one NeoTron :P |
| 20:21.07 | Fisker- | would be OP Matrix110 |
| 20:21.09 | Thrae | NeoTron: Mythic was able to do it pretty damn well with DAoC |
| 20:21.20 | Fisker- | alliance shouldn't be able to travel to northrend |
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| 20:21.33 | alb` | more like BORING tundra huh guys |
| 20:21.34 | RaydenUni | why? |
| 20:21.42 | Fisker- | hoho alb` |
| 20:21.47 | alb` | hi5 |
| 20:21.49 | Amadeo | hehe |
| 20:22.02 | Amadeo | Grizzly Adams |
| 20:22.06 | Thrae | All I can say about WoW Expansions is...the next expansion better DAMN well feature Pandaerans. |
| 20:22.17 | Amadeo | are Pandaerans real? |
| 20:22.18 | Matrix110 | HOME OF THE FURBOLGS!!!!!!!1 |
| 20:22.20 | Matrix110 | zomg |
| 20:22.23 | Keias | Define real |
| 20:22.24 | Keias | lol |
| 20:22.30 | Amadeo | are they in Warcraft? |
| 20:22.32 | Thrae | Amadeo: They were in TFN as a Hero class |
| 20:22.33 | NeoTron | Thrae: it has walrus people. good enough |
| 20:22.45 | Amadeo | what's TFN? |
| 20:22.50 | Thrae | Amadeo: Hero unit that is, Neutral |
| 20:22.53 | Thrae | I meant TFT |
| 20:22.56 | Amadeo | that means The Food Network, to me :P |
| 20:23.20 | Amadeo | They seem like they are completely out of place |
| 20:25.06 | RaydenUni | my feed crapped out |
| 20:25.44 | RaydenUni | augh |
| 20:25.52 | RaydenUni | gotta watch the whole intro giga thing again |
| 20:25.56 | Fisker- | haha |
| 20:25.57 | Fisker- | ownt |
| 20:26.13 | Amadeo | Whoa! That sneak peek at the Death Knight was amazing! |
| 20:26.19 | Amadeo | Did you see that, RaydenUni? |
| 20:26.27 | RaydenUni | no :( |
| 20:26.34 | Amadeo | damn...guess they'll never show it again either |
| 20:26.39 | RaydenUni | i saw something earlier |
| 20:26.44 | RaydenUni | in the trailer i think it was |
| 20:26.46 | Amadeo | I'm just messing with you anyway |
| 20:26.51 | RaydenUni | he was calling down skeletons on a villae |
| 20:26.53 | RaydenUni | village |
| 20:27.12 | Matrix110 | Dragonblight is new Barrens |
| 20:27.27 | Amadeo | HAHAH |
| 20:27.30 | Fisker- | NICE |
| 20:27.31 | Amadeo | Dalaran is the capital city |
| 20:27.32 | Fisker- | i came |
| 20:27.35 | Matrix110 | nice |
| 20:27.38 | Matrix110 | Dalaran |
| 20:27.49 | Fisker- | lol |
| 20:27.49 | alb` | how original |
| 20:27.50 | mitch1 | antiarc: removing that UnitCanAttack check in Threat fixes the omen problem with water elemental :) |
| 20:27.52 | Amadeo | how did it go there? |
| 20:27.52 | Amadeo | hahaha |
| 20:27.53 | Fisker- | OMG |
| 20:27.55 | Amadeo | that was lame |
| 20:27.57 | Fisker- | IN B4 FUCKING LORELOL |
| 20:28.08 | NeoTron | wait they teleported dalaran to northrend? |
| 20:28.13 | alb` | Wrath of the Lich King more like Wrath of the Copy Paste azeroth amirite guys |
| 20:28.15 | alb` | hi5! |
| 20:28.30 | Fisker- | nice |
| 20:28.35 | Fisker- | OOH |
| 20:28.36 | Fisker- | flying mounts in northrend |
| 20:28.42 | Amadeo | duh :P |
| 20:28.49 | Neebler | that cost 1000000 gold |
| 20:29.08 | Amadeo | Boooooo |
| 20:29.16 | durcyn | yeah but gotta get new 450 riding skill see.. 281% |
| 20:29.27 | Antiarc|Work | Deathknight and PVP: |
| 20:29.37 | Antiarc|Work | Gnome Deathknights o.0 |
| 20:29.40 | Amadeo | lol |
| 20:29.48 | Amadeo | he did seem to mention Death Knight PvP with that |
| 20:29.55 | Antiarc|Work | He's talking about that now |
| 20:30.00 | Amadeo | he's talking about siege weapons now! |
| 20:30.16 | Amadeo | HAHA |
| 20:30.20 | Amadeo | they're adding Frontiers |
| 20:30.21 | Amadeo | ROFL |
| 20:30.27 | Matrix110 | outdoor AV |
| 20:30.41 | Amadeo | Totally doing stuff to compete with Warhammer :) |
| 20:30.53 | NeoTron | deathknights will be as unique as the netherwing mount |
| 20:31.51 | Amadeo | Yep |
| 20:31.54 | Amadeo | it's a Frontier copy |
| 20:32.07 | Frostx- | that's not very unique NeoTron |
| 20:32.36 | Amadeo | Antiarc|Work: Here we go! |
| 20:32.53 | NeoTron | Frostx-: I think that was my point |
| 20:32.56 | Amadeo | hahaha |
| 20:33.02 | Amadeo | Death Knights can tank with 2H weapons |
| 20:33.04 | NeoTron | everyone and their cat will have one |
| 20:33.14 | Fisker- | nooo |
| 20:33.14 | Antiarc|Work | Can use 2h or DW, no shields |
| 20:33.17 | Fisker- | deathknights won't get shields |
| 20:33.19 | NeoTron | and suddently you have raids with 20 deathknigths and 5 healers forced to heal |
| 20:33.19 | ccKep | lol @ DK tanking without shields |
| 20:33.39 | Antiarc|Work | DK use bladed weapons |
| 20:33.52 | NeoTron | they should at least have three hero classes - melee, ranged and healer |
| 20:33.56 | Fisker- | wtf? |
| 20:33.58 | Amadeo | um |
| 20:34.02 | NeoTron | then at least end game raids would have three classes |
| 20:34.03 | RaydenUni | wtf? |
| 20:34.06 | Matrix110 | now WC3-.- |
| 20:34.08 | Matrix110 | fu |
| 20:34.08 | Amadeo | lame |
| 20:34.14 | Fisker- | OMG |
| 20:34.14 | Antiarc|Work | did the feed just cut out? |
| 20:34.16 | Fisker- | nooooo |
| 20:34.22 | Sirow | somebody knows API function to read UIScale? |
| 20:34.23 | Amadeo | it went to Giga commercials |
| 20:34.32 | RaydenUni | there are 3 types in raids, damage, healing, crowd control |
| 20:34.33 | Antiarc|Work | Sirow: UIParent:GetScale() ? |
| 20:34.41 | Fisker- | oh screw you giga |
| 20:34.44 | Matrix110 | Antiarc|Work they do WC3 now |
| 20:34.45 | Amadeo | omg |
| 20:34.46 | Sirow | Antariac: DOH thx >_< |
| 20:34.46 | Amadeo | that's so lame |
| 20:34.58 | RaydenUni | we didn't want to hear about death knights, we wanted to hear about the starcraft tournament! |
| 20:35.08 | Fisker- | obviously! |
| 20:35.13 | Necrathex | diablo3 announced yet? |
| 20:35.16 | Matrix110 | no |
| 20:35.16 | Fisker- | Why hear about NEW GAMES when you can hear about 10 YEAR OLD GAMES |
| 20:35.24 | Amadeo | there is no Diablo 3 |
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| 20:35.27 | Necrathex | :'( |
| 20:35.36 | Amadeo | they're doing StarCraft 2 and a WoW expansion, no time for Diablo 3 |
| 20:35.41 | Fisker- | there's a third game |
| 20:35.49 | Amadeo | for sure? |
| 20:35.50 | ckknight | hey all |
| 20:35.51 | Matrix110 | yes |
| 20:35.52 | Necrathex | i thought they were doing 3 things |
| 20:35.57 | Amadeo | ok, maybe I'm wrong then, lol |
| 20:36.02 | Antiarc|Work | At least the co-host is easy on the eyes |
| 20:36.08 | RaydenUni | there are 3 |
| 20:36.09 | Fisker- | WUT |
| 20:36.09 | Amadeo | or it'll be a WoW cell phone game :P |
| 20:36.11 | Amadeo | Antiarc|Work: Yeah, she's hot |
| 20:36.13 | rubik | what feed is this? |
| 20:36.16 | Amadeo | Antiarc|Work: Or did you mean him? :P |
| 20:36.21 | Antiarc|Work | Her :P |
| 20:36.22 | Amadeo | hahaha |
| 20:36.25 | Necrathex | no, The Lost Vikings 3D for XboX |
| 20:36.30 | RaydenUni | at one point they said how many devs on each game |
| 20:36.31 | Fisker- | oh it's time for fapping anyways ;( |
| 20:36.31 | Keias | screw that |
| 20:36.37 | Keias | It's time for a Rock N Roll Racing 2 |
| 20:36.44 | Diao | where are you watching |
| 20:36.45 | Diao | the live feed |
| 20:36.50 | Antiarc|Work | Now they're covering a stupid WC3 match |
| 20:36.51 | Antiarc|Work | Err |
| 20:36.54 | Antiarc|Work | http://www.giga.de/2/live/free/# |
| 20:37.06 | stavmar_ | that sux the lecture was getting good |
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| 20:37.18 | Necrathex | octoshait won't work here :/ |
| 20:37.26 | Amadeo | Necrathex: Try IE |
| 20:37.29 | Necrathex | i can't |
| 20:37.33 | stavmar_ | i would rather hear about the DKnights |
| 20:37.33 | Necrathex | running linux :P |
| 20:37.36 | Amadeo | is he saying "fuckings"? |
| 20:37.46 | pastamancer | yeah, that's what I heard |
| 20:37.47 | stavmar_ | he did |
| 20:37.48 | Fisker- | yeah |
| 20:37.49 | Amadeo | hahaha |
| 20:37.49 | Fisker- | was about to say it |
| 20:37.50 | Fisker- | :P |
| 20:37.50 | stavmar_ | lol |
| 20:37.52 | RaydenUni | a name apparently |
| 20:37.59 | TheKarn | what are these DKnights? does everyone get to play one or something? |
| 20:38.00 | stavmar_ | 4 kings? |
| 20:38.08 | Amadeo | maybe 4 kings, yeah |
| 20:38.13 | stavmar_ | lol |
| 20:38.26 | RaydenUni | TheKarn you have to complete a lvl 80 quest to make one |
| 20:38.27 | Amadeo | for third place, 10,000 yen |
| 20:38.43 | TheKarn | but they cant be used in normal wow i'd hope |
| 20:38.48 | TheKarn | and definately not in pv |
| 20:38.53 | RaydenUni | they start at 60 or 70 apprently |
| 20:39.01 | RaydenUni | for end game hardcore raiding it looks like |
| 20:39.09 | Amadeo | I bet the American/Canadian get stomped |
| 20:39.30 | Diao | ew |
| 20:39.31 | RaydenUni | ffa or 2v2 or what? |
| 20:39.32 | Diao | it requires |
| 20:39.34 | Diao | a plugin |
| 20:39.58 | Amadeo | wtf |
| 20:39.59 | Amadeo | hahahaha |
| 20:40.05 | Matrix110 | rofl Korean crap |
| 20:40.12 | Amadeo | "I played Warcraft" |
| 20:40.13 | Matrix110 | l2speakenglish |
| 20:40.39 | Matrix110 | the translator sucks |
| 20:40.42 | stavmar_ | aye |
| 20:40.46 | stavmar_ | just making it up |
| 20:40.48 | Diao | learn korean imo |
| 20:41.09 | ckknight | they should learn English :-P |
| 20:41.16 | mitch1 | antiarc: one more suggestion about the omen/threat-1.0 UnitCanAttack() thing: get rid of the UnitCanAttack() check from Threat, and also get rid of the ActiveWithPet switch from Omen, and let huntards check ActiveWhenSolo if they want to use it with their pet. |
| 20:41.24 | Fisker- | I wanna play russian roulette with a non-chambered gun |
| 20:41.39 | ckknight | I agree with mitch1's first statement, not the second |
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| 20:42.01 | mitch1 | ckk: you can't reliably do the second |
| 20:42.05 | JonathanDavis | anyone heard about the new expansion ? |
| 20:42.06 | mitch1 | without breaking stuf |
| 20:42.11 | ckknight | *shrug* |
| 20:42.12 | stavmar_ | Grubby wants to play stop with the talking lol |
| 20:42.19 | JonathanDavis | its live right now in a weby. |
| 20:42.19 | Kemayo | JonathanDavis: It was cancelled. |
| 20:42.20 | RaydenUni | new expansion? |
| 20:42.23 | JonathanDavis | ya |
| 20:42.24 | RaydenUni | what are you talking about JonathanDavis ? |
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| 20:42.28 | RaydenUni | expansion for what? |
| 20:42.29 | JonathanDavis | http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/wrath/ |
| 20:42.32 | ckknight | JonathanDavis: the one in space? |
| 20:42.34 | ckknight | where nagas have spacesuits |
| 20:42.39 | JonathanDavis | :P bla2. |
| 20:42.41 | RaydenUni | orcs in spacce |
| 20:42.54 | Kemayo | JonathanDavis: All we talk about here is poker. Thus the channel name. |
| 20:43.04 | RaydenUni | explain this expansion? |
| 20:43.10 | RaydenUni | what is it for |
| 20:43.15 | ckknight | WoW |
| 20:43.32 | mitch1 | well, one more option would be to let threat run always if activewithpet is set, but don't show anything until you have your pet out, but then you'd need an extra flag in Omen |
| 20:43.45 | RaydenUni | shush, i'm making fun of JonathanDavis |
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| 20:44.15 | rubik | PerfectTargets still maintained by anyone? |
| 20:44.21 | ckknight | bah |
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| 20:45.22 | ckknight | ooh, new hairstyles and dances |
| 20:45.41 | RaydenUni | most important feature? you decide |
| 20:45.49 | Fisker- | nooo |
| 20:45.50 | RaydenUni | Death Knight or New Hairstyles? |
| 20:45.53 | NM|Xinhuan|Guru | new hairstyles? what am i missing? ;) |
| 20:45.57 | Fisker- | workstation for the next hour |
| 20:45.57 | rubik | Thrae: i think PerfectTargets is broken on SVN? |
| 20:45.58 | Fisker- | do not want ;( |
| 20:46.43 | ckknight | you know, I don't really want to deal with the code for a new class. |
| 20:46.44 | mitch1 | I vote for hairstyles in favor of jedis^H^H^H^H^Hdeathknights |
| 20:47.03 | RaydenUni | 3rd place european vs 1st place asian |
| 20:47.06 | RaydenUni | he's going to get owned |
| 20:47.40 | pastamancer | "the emperor of orcs" |
| 20:48.14 | Amadeo | "waiting's ok for us, since you're hot" |
| 20:48.33 | pastamancer | lol, where is moon? |
| 20:48.42 | RaydenUni | and she's talking about warcraft3 and she knows what she is talking about |
| 20:49.18 | Amadeo | haha |
| 20:49.56 | pastamancer | "huge cooling air fan thing blowing" |
| 20:50.05 | Amadeo | hahaha |
| 20:50.07 | Amadeo | like 3 people cheered |
| 20:50.15 | pastamancer | haha |
| 20:50.26 | Amadeo | one guy probably said, "Who still plays Warcraft? Booo!" |
| 20:50.50 | Amadeo | hahaha |
| 20:51.00 | rubik | local metro = DongleStub("MetrognomeNano-Beta0") |
| 20:51.06 | rubik | that line breaks PerfectTargets on svn |
| 20:51.15 | Amadeo | rofl.. |
| 20:51.15 | rubik | what the heck kind of lib is that and how does one get it? |
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| 20:51.36 | RaydenUni | i was thinking his accent doesn't sound asian |
| 20:51.46 | Fisker- | YES TECHNICAL PROBLEMS |
| 20:51.47 | ckknight | rubik: dognel stuff |
| 20:51.51 | ckknight | dongle* |
| 20:52.03 | Fisker- | change back to WotLK stuff |
| 20:52.09 | rubik | ughh |
| 20:52.22 | RaydenUni | or they could be crazy and talk about starcraft 2 |
| 20:52.22 | Josh_Borke | rubik: welcome to the bleeding edge ;-) |
| 20:52.27 | durcyn | thrae checking dongle stuff into wowace svn eh? how novel. |
| 20:52.58 | rubik | haha.. thrae broke it |
| 20:52.58 | RaydenUni | i love code :) |
| 20:53.03 | ckknight | anyone else kinda miffed about the lack of new races? |
| 20:53.08 | Josh_Borke | no |
| 20:53.09 | ckknight | I wanna play a nerubian... |
| 20:53.11 | RaydenUni | no, who cares about races? |
| 20:53.16 | durcyn | pandaren. |
| 20:53.17 | RaydenUni | and what other races could there bo? |
| 20:53.20 | RaydenUni | be |
| 20:53.20 | durcyn | must. have. pandaren. |
| 20:53.31 | RaydenUni | maybe all death knights will be pandarens |
| 20:53.36 | Amadeo | if Pandaren come into the game, I'm done :P |
| 20:53.38 | ckknight | lol, no. |
| 20:53.43 | ckknight | done how? |
| 20:53.49 | Amadeo | with WoW, I think the race is goofy :P |
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| 20:53.53 | RaydenUni | i wanna be naga |
| 20:54.35 | Amadeo | steal a bike |
| 20:54.42 | Fisker- | no |
| 20:54.43 | Fisker- | steal water |
| 20:54.54 | pastamancer | gah, this stupid octowhatever player installed an icon in my menubar that it won't let me hide |
| 20:55.06 | Dustwhisper | panderans is probably the dumbest thing about wow lore |
| 20:55.06 | Dustwhisper | tbh |
| 20:55.17 | RaydenUni | they aren't a big part of it |
| 20:55.22 | RaydenUni | its just sort of a fun side thing |
| 20:55.30 | pastamancer | didn't that starts as an april fools joke? |
| 20:55.38 | RaydenUni | i think one of the artists just snuck it in |
| 20:55.47 | RaydenUni | but pandaren as a BC race was a april fools joke |
| 20:55.57 | RaydenUni | illidans blades had pandaren faces on them in ar3 |
| 20:55.58 | RaydenUni | war3 |
| 20:56.02 | Amadeo | so did any website update with the reast of what Tom Chilton said about the Death Knights? |
| 20:56.06 | durcyn | no, all of wow lore since wow was released has turned into one big steaming retcon'd pile of shit, pandarens are actually one of the most consistent portions in that they haven't been re-invented 8 times to suit the logic-soup that lore has become |
| 20:56.07 | Amadeo | or did we just miss the info for good? |
| 20:56.14 | RaydenUni | wowinsider had a live blog |
| 20:56.27 | pastamancer | durcyn: I want pandaren in spaaaaace |
| 20:56.32 | NeoTron | Tuskarr |
| 20:56.33 | RaydenUni | http://www.wowinsider.com/2007/08/03/liveblogging-the-blizzcon-expansion-demo-panel/ |
| 20:56.41 | ckknight | Tuskarr do seem neat |
| 20:56.42 | Dustwhisper | what i think WOW lacks is |
| 20:56.49 | Dustwhisper | the original people from blizzard |
| 20:56.51 | Dustwhisper | that quit 0D |
| 20:57.26 | RaydenUni | Hero classes are Unlocked, allows us to release more in the future. Can't release them all at one time, because of game balance, but what it boils down to is your favorite WCIII heroes, playable. |
| 20:57.26 | Dustwhisper | and tbh Jeff Kaplan and Tom chilton can FOD with thei mage nerfs/ignorance =D |
| 20:57.32 | RaydenUni | how is releasing more than one imbalanced? |
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| 20:58.12 | Amadeo | "Hero classes are Unlocked, allows us to release more in the future. Can't release them all at one time, because of game balance, but what it boils down to is your favorite WCIII heroes, playable." |
| 20:58.13 | ckknight | RaydenUni: cause it's more work |
| 20:58.56 | krka_ | demon hunter ftw |
| 20:59.09 | Amadeo | "With DK, another plate melee class, what's up with Rogues? It's a balance thing. Rogues bring utility into PvP with crowd control. Rogues are not really good at 5v5 (!), so expect them to be better there. We expect the DK to feel and play very differently." |
| 20:59.10 | Amadeo | hahaha |
| 21:00.16 | RaydenUni | but adding 1 powerful class means nothing can compete |
| 21:00.25 | Amadeo | yeah, I don't get it |
| 21:00.27 | Fisker- | nice |
| 21:00.29 | Amadeo | the counter for a DK is a DK? |
| 21:00.31 | Amadeo | heh |
| 21:00.33 | RaydenUni | what's going on with the war3 game |
| 21:00.38 | Fisker- | the WC3 tourney is going like hell |
| 21:00.49 | RaydenUni | the players could hear the announcers? |
| 21:01.18 | CIA-32 | 03totalpackage * r45655 10InFlight/ (InFlight.lua InFlight.toc): |
| 21:01.18 | CIA-32 | InFlight: |
| 21:01.18 | CIA-32 | - all color options now have the ability to change opacity |
| 21:01.18 | CIA-32 | - position saving updated for 2.2 |
| 21:01.21 | pastamancer | I think the players could see the announcers screen |
| 21:01.35 | NM|Xinhuan | How do you make it so that WAU doesn't update a mod without manually unchecking it every time? |
| 21:01.52 | Arrowmaster | create a folder named '.svn' inside the mods directory |
| 21:02.02 | NM|Xinhuan | with the addon name in front? |
| 21:02.08 | Arrowmaster | no |
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| 21:02.14 | Arrowmaster | just '.svn' |
| 21:02.22 | pastamancer | oh, they could hear |
| 21:02.31 | ckknight | well, the video was kinda cheesy |
| 21:02.38 | Matrix110 | this is just so rofl |
| 21:02.43 | Matrix110 | organisation sucks^^ |
| 21:02.46 | Fisker- | fail |
| 21:02.49 | Amadeo | hahaha, Moon is sleeping |
| 21:02.54 | Fisker- | they don't intend on remaking azeroth! |
| 21:02.56 | NM|Xinhuan | oh so if the addon is "Interface/AddOns/Ace2" then i just need to create "Interface/AddOns/Ace2/.svn" ? |
| 21:02.59 | pastamancer | haha |
| 21:03.22 | RaydenUni | he's trying not to get psyched because the match is getting restarted |
| 21:03.47 | Arrowmaster | NM|Xinhuan: yes |
| 21:03.48 | Matrix110 | roflmao |
| 21:03.49 | Amadeo | BlizzCon is a complete disaster :P |
| 21:03.56 | ckknight | Amadeo: howso? |
| 21:04.01 | NM|Xinhuan | ok ty |
| 21:04.11 | Amadeo | ckknight: They're trying to do a Warcraft 3 match right now, and it keeps getting screwed |
| 21:04.14 | RaydenUni | the war3 match was ruined of course |
| 21:04.15 | ckknight | oh, lol |
| 21:04.16 | Amadeo | it was supposed to start an hour ago |
| 21:04.25 | Arrowmaster | NM|Xinhuan: youll probably have to do it from a command prompt though since windows doesnt like creating folders with .'s in the name |
| 21:04.42 | NM|Xinhuan | i'll try lol! |
| 21:04.59 | Fisker- | hmm |
| 21:05.00 | NM|Xinhuan | i've modified one of the addons and dont' really want WAU to update it |
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| 21:05.19 | Fisker- | if the new Arena Season is supposed to launch around the release of WotLK then they must be pretty close |
| 21:05.25 | CIA-32 | 03totalpackage * r45656 10CloseUp/: CloseUp - initial commit |
| 21:05.36 | ulic | "a" new arena season |
| 21:05.43 | RaydenUni | lol bgh 4v4 |
| 21:05.45 | NM|Xinhuan | hmm you're right about windows not liking it |
| 21:05.46 | ulic | not the "next" new arena season |
| 21:05.51 | Amadeo | what kind of headphones are they using? |
| 21:05.57 | RaydenUni | logitech? |
| 21:06.00 | Fisker- | arena seasons should be implied ulic |
| 21:06.03 | Amadeo | no, too big |
| 21:06.05 | RaydenUni | they are cosponsoring blizzcon |
| 21:06.28 | Fisker- | So either they mean the next season or it was a totally irrelevant comment |
| 21:06.44 | Amadeo | rofl |
| 21:06.48 | Amadeo | great, radio silence |
| 21:06.53 | Fisker- | And given there's a good 4-5 months between an arena season it actually makes sense |
| 21:06.54 | dreamss2 | ok dalaran moved, what is the bubble protecting? |
| 21:06.57 | Matrix110 | the organisation sucks so hard |
| 21:07.03 | Amadeo | dreamss2: It bubble-hearthed |
| 21:07.04 | Fisker- | dreamss2 not moved, moving |
| 21:07.11 | Saint-N | i don't know why anyone is surprised |
| 21:07.14 | ulic | bubble moved too, or so it appeared |
| 21:07.28 | Saint-N | look at thier network and servers, maint, updates, slow hardware upgrades |
| 21:07.47 | Saint-N | bad bugs in game play imbalance in game play etc |
| 21:07.51 | Fisker- | it was obviously a "fun"-moment |
| 21:07.51 | Saint-N | and those are things they're good at |
| 21:08.00 | RaydenUni | they can't talk about anything in the shoutcast |
| 21:08.04 | Fisker- | the bubble is probably being removed after they've landed on northrend |
| 21:08.05 | RaydenUni | units, heroes, expansions, strategies |
| 21:08.06 | Fisker- | or above northrend |
| 21:08.07 | Amadeo | rofl, so lame |
| 21:08.19 | RaydenUni | it will be interesting to see what the bubble was protecting |
| 21:08.19 | dreamss2 | i tought it moved allready |
| 21:08.24 | pastamancer | this wc3 tournament is hilarious |
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| 21:08.26 | Antiarc|Work | "What races for DK? Our current plan is for all of them to be available. ("Gnome Death Knights ftw" from the audience)" |
| 21:08.37 | Saint-N | whats the streaming url? |
| 21:08.43 | Fisker- | doesn't matter |
| 21:08.45 | Fisker- | giga failed |
| 21:08.46 | Amadeo | Why can the players hear the stream at ALL? |
| 21:08.48 | Amadeo | that's so lame |
| 21:08.48 | Fisker- | http://www.giga.de/2/live/free/ |
| 21:08.55 | RaydenUni | http://www.giga.de/2/live/free/# |
| 21:08.57 | RaydenUni | oops |
| 21:09.05 | Matrix110 | Amadeo because Blizzard failed to built these boxes:P |
| 21:09.16 | CIA-32 | 03totalpackage * r45657 10CloseUp/ (CloseUp.toc core.lua): |
| 21:09.16 | CIA-32 | CloseUp |
| 21:09.16 | CIA-32 | - full commit |
| 21:09.16 | CIA-32 | - mod's default character models so one can easily view them, also adds undress/target buttons |
| 21:09.18 | Amadeo | rofl |
| 21:09.26 | Amadeo | owned |
| 21:09.35 | pastamancer | haha, "you think it will be the... yeah" |
| 21:09.52 | Matrix110 | soundmuted boxes are hard to built :P |
| 21:10.20 | Matrix110 | the hosts arent allowed to say anything:P |
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| 21:10.37 | pastamancer | yeah |
| 21:10.42 | pastamancer | hilarious |
| 21:10.51 | CIA-32 | 03pb_ee1 * r45658 10LZProfiler/LZProfiler.lua: LZProfiler: This should fix the bug where tooltips were not correctly saved. |
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| 21:10.56 | Amadeo | this is pretty lame |
| 21:11.01 | Amadeo | they're still talking about it |
| 21:11.06 | Amadeo | so it's like playing a fake tournament |
| 21:11.09 | Matrix110 | well they cant sit there doing nothing |
| 21:11.32 | Amadeo | they should talk about tetris |
| 21:11.40 | Amadeo | a $10,000 tournament where they cheat :P |
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| 21:13.05 | Saint-N | "you can see the moon so in warcraft time it's night" |
| 21:13.06 | Saint-N | wow |
| 21:13.39 | silentium | NM|Xinhuan: just right-click the addon in WAU and mark it as "ignore", no more need for the .svn directory |
| 21:14.25 | NM|Xinhuan | i'm still using WAU 1.8 heh |
| 21:14.43 | rubik | what the heck am i watching here on the giga streaming thing |
| 21:14.45 | NM|Xinhuan | i assume that's a WAU 1.9 feature? |
| 21:14.49 | Saint-N | hahahahahahhahahahaha |
| 21:14.53 | Matrix110 | rofl |
| 21:14.54 | Saint-N | my god how awesome |
| 21:14.56 | Fisker- | but there was a grunt there! |
| 21:15.08 | silentium | yes it is |
| 21:15.15 | Antiarc|Work | you'd think they'd have tested that sort of thing pre-tournament |
| 21:15.20 | Saint-N | yeah no shit |
| 21:15.40 | Fisker- | lol |
| 21:15.52 | Antiarc|Work | This is pretty painful |
| 21:15.57 | Amadeo | yeah, it's sick |
| 21:16.01 | Saint-N | no way |
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| 21:16.02 | Amadeo | it's like me trying to do a tournament :P |
| 21:16.05 | Saint-N | this is awesome to listen to |
| 21:16.15 | Saint-N | it's like listening to a car wreck over and over |
| 21:16.18 | Amadeo | rofl |
| 21:16.34 | Saint-N | it resetted? |
| 21:16.34 | Matrix110 | this is ridiculous |
| 21:16.35 | Matrix110 | :P |
| 21:16.44 | Saint-N | engrish ftl |
| 21:16.54 | Saint-N | oh man |
| 21:17.00 | Fisker- | lol @ his accent |
| 21:17.04 | Saint-N | that guys voice reminds me of the priest from princess bride |
| 21:17.06 | Fisker- | op ponnent |
| 21:17.09 | Saint-N | mawwage |
| 21:17.17 | Amadeo | He should say, screw this shit, I want $5,000 for such a crappy tournament, just split the prize! |
| 21:17.27 | Saint-N | mawwage is whut bwings us togevveh today |
| 21:17.44 | rubik | is teh chick retarded? |
| 21:18.03 | Saint-N | wow hes asian? |
| 21:18.12 | Saint-N | i swore he was like euro |
| 21:18.19 | Amadeo | he speaks German |
| 21:18.20 | Fisker- | noooooo |
| 21:18.22 | rubik | i thought he was german |
| 21:18.24 | rubik | yah |
| 21:18.25 | Fisker- | just switch to some WotLK stuff |
| 21:18.29 | rubik | zee jermaanz |
| 21:18.32 | RaydenUni | that sucked |
| 21:18.39 | Fisker- | nah |
| 21:18.42 | Fisker- | that was pro |
| 21:18.44 | RaydenUni | commentary was very "nice" |
| 21:18.46 | Amadeo | Thanks for making us miss the WoW info for that, Giga! |
| 21:18.49 | Fisker- | yeah |
| 21:18.51 | kergoth | whee, ordered an 8800gts, no more crappy $50 pci-e video card for me |
| 21:18.53 | Fisker- | thanks a lot |
| 21:18.58 | Amadeo | kergoth: Nice |
| 21:19.05 | Saint-N | and from the far right side of the tournament play area you hear MUTHER FUCKER WHY CANT YOU ASSCLOWNS FUCKING SET TIHIS UP RIGHT IM GERTTING SICK......" |
| 21:19.23 | rubik | hmm.. this giga player thing is sucking all my upstream bw |
| 21:19.24 | Amadeo | what was your old card? |
| 21:19.27 | NM|Xinhuan | btw, does anyone here know anything about running triple monitors from a single PC? |
| 21:19.27 | Fisker- | you won't get it kergoth |
| 21:19.31 | Fisker- | rubik yeah it's p2p |
| 21:19.34 | kergoth | :( |
| 21:19.47 | NeoTron | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:19.48 | rubik | can i set bw limit on upstream? |
| 21:20.00 | Saint-N | ive set up a 4panel with dual matrox cards and mass monitors like 4 years ago ;P |
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| 21:20.03 | Fisker- | i doubt it |
| 21:20.07 | Matrix110 | with netlimiter you can |
| 21:20.07 | Saint-N | does that count? |
| 21:20.11 | Ominous | kergoth: 5fps oO |
| 21:20.26 | NM|Xinhuan | i only have a single AGP gccard, i run duo-monitors atm |
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| 21:20.29 | kergoth | i get a whopping 12-14 in shat |
| 21:20.30 | kergoth | heh |
| 21:20.31 | NM|Xinhuan | gxcard |
| 21:20.32 | Ominous | i hate living in the uk a good pc is soo much more than one in the us |
| 21:20.42 | Ominous | but im saving for one |
| 21:20.50 | NM|Xinhuan | is there a way i can get a 3rd monitor in or do i have to buy a $20 PCI gxcard and slot it in? |
| 21:21.08 | RaydenUni | NM|Xinhuan no good cards do 3 monitors right now |
| 21:21.12 | RaydenUni | matrox had one a few years ago |
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| 21:21.24 | Saint-N | RaydenUni: still does |
| 21:21.34 | Saint-N | they sell em to multip[le fiancial people |
| 21:21.36 | Borked|Raider | Anyone know if theres a channel somewhere with some people of the developteam of fraps? |
| 21:21.41 | NM|Xinhuan | but does the "buy cheap pci-card" method work? |
| 21:21.48 | Saint-N | bridges 4 output |
| 21:21.58 | Saint-N | NM|Xinhuan: i dont think it does |
| 21:22.32 | Saint-N | the only qway i can think you might be able to get away with it is to use onboard video AND a dual monitor card |
| 21:22.52 | NM|Xinhuan | my motherboard refuses to enable the onboard one when a AGP one is slotted in |
| 21:22.58 | Saint-N | that sucks |
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| 21:23.28 | NM|Xinhuan | but according to the manual, if i have both a AGP and a PCI gxcard slotted in, the BIOS lets me choose which one to be primary |
| 21:23.45 | Saint-N | is yer agp dual? |
| 21:23.49 | NM|Xinhuan | yes |
| 21:23.53 | Saint-N | oh then give it a shot |
| 21:23.58 | RaydenUni | you have agp and pcix? |
| 21:24.02 | NM|Xinhuan | nope |
| 21:24.03 | Saint-N | most wont allow the pci to function if the agp is in use |
| 21:24.07 | NM|Xinhuan | its like a 5 year old comp |
| 21:24.16 | Amadeo | I have a hardware question...what's the point of dual ethernet that a lot of motherboards have these days? |
| 21:24.19 | Saint-N | so essentially the pci card is accomplishing the same as onboard+agp |
| 21:24.20 | NM|Xinhuan | Abit NF7-M i think |
| 21:24.31 | RaydenUni | Amadeo not much |
| 21:24.34 | Saint-N | amae: inet connection sharing and servers |
| 21:24.36 | RaydenUni | connect to 2 different networks? |
| 21:24.38 | Saint-N | thats about it |
| 21:24.45 | Amadeo | what about a router? |
| 21:24.53 | Saint-N | also handy for swapping between lan and wan |
| 21:25.07 | Saint-N | just enable/disable |
| 21:25.14 | Saint-N | without having to configure anything |
| 21:25.25 | Amadeo | I see |
| 21:25.27 | NM|Xinhuan | heh i actually installed a ethernet pci card |
| 21:25.28 | RaydenUni | what about a router? |
| 21:25.33 | NM|Xinhuan | even though i can use the onboard one |
| 21:25.35 | Saint-N | but for the most part its for inet connection sharing in the event that you only havea hub or dialup |
| 21:25.46 | NM|Xinhuan | so the end result is 2 ethernets |
| 21:26.06 | Saint-N | depending on the board too it could be one's giga the other is 10/100 |
| 21:26.41 | Saint-N | but thats just for simplicity since pure giga works better on gig networks without having to support 10/100 |
| 21:26.41 | RaydenUni | "Will be changes coming to speed up 1-60 and 1-70." |
| 21:26.57 | rubik | hmm.. like.. letting you start at 60? |
| 21:27.00 | NM|Xinhuan | where's that quote from :o |
| 21:27.02 | Borked|Raider | anyone who have had installed the trial version of fraps and then upgraded to the full version and it couldnt load, and found a solution for it that they are able to share :( |
| 21:27.25 | RaydenUni | rubik i can't see how people think that's a good idea |
| 21:27.28 | Fisker- | http://img175.imageshack.us/img175/4990/1186168150935sz4.jpg lol |
| 21:27.44 | Amadeo | hahah |
| 21:28.01 | NM|Xinhuan | all i can say is to probably try to reinstall the trial version and reupgrade? |
| 21:28.02 | rubik | RaydenUni: yeah, me neither but i don't know how they can speed it up |
| 21:28.08 | RaydenUni | give more xp |
| 21:28.10 | RaydenUni | for stuff |
| 21:28.22 | Arrowmaster | more quests! |
| 21:28.23 | rubik | i honestly don't understand why the need for another (70-80) level grind but whatever |
| 21:28.26 | Amadeo | My god, you should work at Blizzard! :P |
| 21:28.38 | NM|Xinhuan | 10 levels is hardly a grind ~_~ |
| 21:28.51 | Amadeo | what about 10 EQ levels? |
| 21:28.59 | NM|Xinhuan | well this is WoW, not EQ |
| 21:29.03 | rubik | sorry.. never played eq |
| 21:29.08 | Amadeo | Your mom's wow! |
| 21:29.13 | RaydenUni | i know what the 3 talent trees for death knights will be |
| 21:29.15 | Borked|Raider | NM|Xinhuan, well i can install the trial and install the upgrade as many times i want, but when the trial have been installed it put in some stuff in regedit or so, and the full version wont load |
| 21:29.15 | rubik | yeah.. heard of it.. hah |
| 21:29.27 | NM|Xinhuan | is there a full version download? |
| 21:29.35 | Borked|Raider | ye |
| 21:29.39 | NM|Xinhuan | try that then |
| 21:29.44 | Borked|Raider | thats waht i done :P |
| 21:29.46 | Borked|Raider | and it dont work |
| 21:29.55 | Borked|Raider | as the trial fucks it up |
| 21:29.56 | NM|Xinhuan | better email the guy then |
| 21:30.33 | NM|Xinhuan | or google an answer |
| 21:30.39 | NM|Xinhuan | brb, rebooting |
| 21:32.04 | RaydenUni | does inscription sound like talent trees to anyone else? |
| 21:32.11 | RaydenUni | makes your spells better, cast faster, etc |
| 21:32.42 | Matrix110 | it will be insane moneymaking:p |
| 21:32.54 | Matrix110 | but there needs to be some limitation |
| 21:32.56 | Matrix110 | i guess |
| 21:33.15 | ramoz | someone said |
| 21:33.27 | RaydenUni | http://www.craftingworlds.com/savemurlocs/BabyMurlocDance.mp3 |
| 21:33.29 | ccKep | http://www.concilium-wow.de/kep/vlcsnap-554054.png << that has to be the most retarted sheet I've ever seen ^.^ |
| 21:33.39 | ramoz | Inscription can make your Pyroblast do knockback! |
| 21:34.01 | Matrix110 | I want my Icelance to do knockback:P |
| 21:34.04 | Frostx- | give my ice lance knockback |
| 21:34.05 | yacoob | question is, what you'll be inscribing on? |
| 21:34.07 | Frostx- | winnar |
| 21:34.20 | rubik | level 71 greens.. duh |
| 21:34.23 | ckknight | yacoob: my guess: items |
| 21:34.24 | RaydenUni | probably all armor |
| 21:34.28 | RaydenUni | maybe only weapons |
| 21:34.30 | Frostx- | make fireball aoe around its target on immpact |
| 21:34.32 | Frostx- | =) |
| 21:34.32 | Matrix110 | my guess on your spells:P |
| 21:34.36 | yacoob | stupid, if it affects spells |
| 21:34.40 | ckknight | could be |
| 21:34.44 | RaydenUni | no inscription for warriors and rogues? |
| 21:34.44 | yacoob | think tatoos :D |
| 21:34.47 | Amadeo | Yes, you inscribe your spells |
| 21:35.00 | Matrix110 | RaydenUni you can make Sinister doing a stun orso i guess |
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| 21:35.06 | yacoob | Amadeo, so this shouldn't be 'inscription' but 'arcane forgery' :D |
| 21:35.09 | Matrix110 | or Backstab doing longer stuns |
| 21:35.09 | Matrix110 | etc. |
| 21:35.10 | RaydenUni | you know how some armor sets give you bonuses like costs 15% less mana? im guessing same as that |
| 21:35.12 | Matrix110 | erm |
| 21:35.13 | Amadeo | yacoob: Yeah, lol |
| 21:35.14 | Matrix110 | CheapShot |
| 21:35.27 | Fisker- | omg |
| 21:35.30 | Fisker- | satisfaction! |
| 21:35.33 | yacoob | I'd really like to see it as tatoos |
| 21:35.34 | Fisker- | so long time since i last heard that |
| 21:35.39 | Arrowmaster | you know what they need, unique class specific gems with special effects |
| 21:35.52 | yacoob | as in, finite set of inscriptions (due to finite area of skin to cover) |
| 21:35.55 | RaydenUni | Bubble: enscribes your bubble to heal you to full life and does an aoe stun to everyone around you |
| 21:35.59 | NeoTron | what is the base chance of mobs to crit you? |
| 21:36.24 | Matrix110 | now these idiots show wow panel |
| 21:36.25 | Arrowmaster | 5% i think |
| 21:36.26 | Matrix110 | but no sound |
| 21:36.27 | Matrix110 | wtf |
| 21:36.39 | rubik | i just want this song to be over with |
| 21:36.41 | rubik | can't stand it |
| 21:36.42 | RaydenUni | but ti's the satisfaction song |
| 21:36.53 | Fisker- | OMG |
| 21:36.53 | RaydenUni | i know a way to make you like it |
| 21:36.54 | Fisker- | something new |
| 21:36.55 | rubik | whee.. sound |
| 21:37.02 | Fisker- | some panel now |
| 21:37.03 | Matrix110 | sound! |
| 21:37.05 | NeoTron | Arrowmaster: equal level (or pvp) or from level 72-73 mobs? |
| 21:37.09 | Matrix110 | Starcraft2 i think |
| 21:37.12 | Matrix110 | but not sure |
| 21:37.19 | Antiarc|Work | YAY |
| 21:37.22 | Antiarc|Work | Class panel! |
| 21:37.23 | RaydenUni | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RDfR0aQaINc |
| 21:37.35 | Fisker- | took it's time |
| 21:37.38 | RaydenUni | talking about classes |
| 21:37.47 | Matrix110 | Where is the Mage designer |
| 21:37.48 | Matrix110 | ! |
| 21:37.54 | Amadeo | hahaha |
| 21:37.56 | Amadeo | he's talking about WoW now |
| 21:37.57 | rubik | nice disclaimer |
| 21:38.01 | RaydenUni | i like this guy already |
| 21:38.04 | Amadeo | yeah |
| 21:38.15 | Matrix110 | i liked "his" mage better |
| 21:38.17 | Matrix110 | than "theres" |
| 21:38.19 | yacoob | 'Class balance panel' |
| 21:38.23 | RaydenUni | i liked "his" shaman :D |
| 21:38.32 | yacoob | 'it's ok, l2p, we love warlocks, now shoo!' |
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| 21:39.08 | rubik | someone going to raise hand and ask who to complain to for warrior nerfs each patch? |
| 21:39.19 | RaydenUni | warrior nerf? |
| 21:39.27 | rubik | lol.. kk.. not lately |
| 21:39.28 | Amadeo | Necromancer/Blademaster may be eventual new hero classes |
| 21:39.28 | RaydenUni | looking at arena right now warriors have nothing to complain about as far as pvp |
| 21:39.37 | RaydenUni | blademaster would be cool |
| 21:39.48 | *** mode/#wowace [+v Shirik] by ChanServ |
| 21:40.04 | RaydenUni | "fewer" classes |
| 21:40.47 | Saint-N | yeah pallys and shaman totally balanced out the classes |
| 21:40.50 | RaydenUni | now everyone hates pallies |
| 21:40.53 | rubik | lol |
| 21:41.01 | Saint-N | it just balanced out the gay |
| 21:41.05 | Frostx- | give me my archmage class |
| 21:41.10 | Frostx- | and super brilliance aura |
| 21:41.13 | Frostx- | so i never have to make water again |
| 21:41.15 | RaydenUni | it was fun to see all the allies complaining about how pallies are impossible to kill |
| 21:41.18 | Saint-N | its not really original |
| 21:41.33 | rubik | "More classes are not always better".. so yeah.. we're adding a new class yo! |
| 21:41.48 | Saint-N | laugh i was playing baldurs gate 2 last night |
| 21:41.53 | Saint-N | 4 classes |
| 21:42.03 | Saint-N | but the ability to use and learn everything just with a penalty |
| 21:42.18 | yacoob | tabula rasa has the classes reversed |
| 21:42.21 | yacoob | you start as recruit |
| 21:42.26 | Saint-N | and once you hit max level you're stuck having to group or grind |
| 21:42.30 | yacoob | after 5 lvls you choose to be soldier or specialist |
| 21:42.38 | yacoob | and then it forks on and on |
| 21:42.43 | Saint-N | there is nothing fun to do once you're 70 |
| 21:42.58 | NeoTron | being a warlock, necromancer is more of a hero class I'd pick |
| 21:43.07 | Amadeo | "We want every class to have their moment to shine in PvP" |
| 21:43.08 | Amadeo | lol |
| 21:43.12 | yacoob | what's even better, at each fork you can clone your character in case you want to return to it |
| 21:43.13 | Fisker- | 1on1 arena |
| 21:43.16 | yacoob | Amadeo, aaah? |
| 21:43.18 | Fisker- | get the fuck out |
| 21:43.30 | yacoob | Amadeo, they're going to add big rendered flash when priest dies? :D |
| 21:43.32 | Matrix110 | When are they coming to nerfing Warlocks |
| 21:43.38 | Fisker- | we're getting balance lessons from a person saying there's 1on1 arenas |
| 21:43.39 | Fisker- | wee |
| 21:44.12 | yacoob | Fisker-, perhaps 1v1 *is* coming? :) |
| 21:44.27 | rubik | so wait.. warriors have multiple abilities? |
| 21:44.33 | Fisker- | oh |
| 21:44.35 | rubik | besides MS for pvp and taunt for tanking |
| 21:44.36 | RaydenUni | yeah i have no idea what he is talking about |
| 21:44.42 | Fisker- | so they nerfed it so they could use different abillities! |
| 21:44.42 | Saint-N | hahaha |
| 21:44.45 | RaydenUni | sunder and uh taunt... |
| 21:44.47 | Saint-N | smattering of applause |
| 21:44.48 | RaydenUni | what else is there? |
| 21:44.53 | rubik | Fisker-: lol |
| 21:45.04 | RaydenUni | this is the guy we can blame for lightwell |
| 21:45.09 | rubik | hahah |
| 21:45.20 | yacoob | can we also blame him for fuel prices, when we're at blaming? |
| 21:45.32 | Matrix110 | I WANT TO SPENT MY STAT POINTS |
| 21:45.33 | Matrix110 | FFS |
| 21:45.34 | RaydenUni | no, we can only blame him for what he is responsible for |
| 21:45.37 | Saint-N | me too! |
| 21:45.41 | RaydenUni | i forget how it worked in the beta |
| 21:45.47 | RaydenUni | i never messed with them i think |
| 21:46.05 | Saint-N | wow |
| 21:46.07 | Saint-N | " |
| 21:46.17 | RaydenUni | its nice they have an in house rpg thy can look at for ideas |
| 21:46.21 | Saint-N | "we looked at how diablo 2 was doing thier talents" |
| 21:46.30 | RaydenUni | it would be awkward if they said "we looked at everquest and copied that" |
| 21:46.36 | Saint-N | aka "we looked at the good game and thought how can we fuck THIS up" |
| 21:46.58 | Matrix110 | could giga remove this stupid banner? |
| 21:47.00 | NeoTron | funny how everyone gets excessively negative when inforamtion is given out |
| 21:47.02 | Matrix110 | its annoying-.- |
| 21:47.07 | rubik | gold medal talents.. like the 31 point talents that no one uses |
| 21:47.10 | NeoTron | people that normall sit around and talk about how great and fun WoW is |
| 21:47.13 | NeoTron | lolwhine |
| 21:47.16 | RaydenUni | NeoTron :D |
| 21:47.39 | *** join/#wowace anholt (n=anholt@fruit.freedesktop.org) |
| 21:47.41 | Saint-N | neotron: i resent that ive bitched about wow for a long time |
| 21:47.44 | Fisker- | i like it |
| 21:47.48 | Saint-N | it's become quite un-fun |
| 21:47.51 | Fisker- | So we saw at the diablo 2 skilltree |
| 21:47.54 | Saint-N | repetative boring |
| 21:47.56 | Fisker- | we made a new talent system |
| 21:47.58 | RaydenUni | you missed earlier when people were talking about leaving because of the bad thigns the expansion will bring |
| 21:48.00 | Fisker- | and ended up copying diablo 2 |
| 21:48.03 | Fisker- | good job! |
| 21:48.21 | ckknight | bad things? |
| 21:48.21 | Saint-N | heh |
| 21:48.25 | Fisker- | damnit |
| 21:48.28 | Saint-N | shadow priest not mainstream? |
| 21:48.30 | Fisker- | they're going to show starcraft now |
| 21:48.31 | Matrix110 | go die mr we need 27different speccs in a 25man raid |
| 21:48.34 | RaydenUni | Saint-N they didn't used to be |
| 21:48.38 | rubik | yeah.. how is feral druid not mainstream |
| 21:48.42 | Saint-N | ive always been shadow |
| 21:48.50 | Antiarc|Work | Feral druids were very marginalized before WoW 2.0 |
| 21:48.51 | Saint-N | from about october after it went live |
| 21:48.59 | RaydenUni | i don't remember, but way back when it came out i don't think shadow priests were as popular as now |
| 21:49.09 | Matrix110 | they cancel it soon for Stacraft matches it seems-.- |
| 21:49.10 | RaydenUni | but i also think he's talking about specs that aren't really intuitive for the class |
| 21:49.12 | *** join/#wowace Higdur (n=nike@81-229-136-48-o1124.telia.com) |
| 21:49.13 | Antiarc|Work | Shadow priests were laughed out of raids during the days of the 8 debuff limit |
| 21:49.18 | rubik | this dude makes some funny faces, that's for sure |
| 21:49.19 | RaydenUni | "priests are healers, so what is shadow about?" |
| 21:49.20 | Saint-N | oh they werent |
| 21:49.30 | Saint-N | but ive always been one ;P |
| 21:49.43 | Saint-N | and all it took was for someone to see a shadow priest in action to love the spec ;P |
| 21:49.49 | rubik | lol.. downranking spells is bad, mmmkay |
| 21:50.05 | rubik | "We really want you to use the highest rank spells all the time and be excited about that." |
| 21:50.06 | Amadeo | why is he talking about old stuff? |
| 21:50.09 | rubik | is he serious |
| 21:50.13 | Antiarc|Work | I think he's just setting a foundation |
| 21:50.13 | RaydenUni | all this is old stuff |
| 21:50.17 | sylvanaar | i suggested we get a shadow priest and a feral druid once back then - my guild responded "lol" |
| 21:50.17 | Fisker- | yeah rubik |
| 21:50.18 | Antiarc|Work | For the new stuff |
| 21:50.23 | *** join/#wowace DarkImakuni (n=mju@87.102.20.144) |
| 21:50.24 | Fisker- | there were no balance issues at all |
| 21:50.27 | Amadeo | Antiarc|Work: We already know it all :P |
| 21:50.41 | Amadeo | I think there's not enough new stuff, so it's all filler! |
| 21:50.42 | Fisker- | we just felt it was more fun that you had to use mana-inefficient spells! |
| 21:50.51 | Fisker- | it had nothing to do with balance at all, honest! |
| 21:50.53 | rubik | Fisker-: lol.. exactly |
| 21:51.06 | Fisker- | exactly the same he said with the warrior |
| 21:51.13 | Saint-N | bahahahahahahahaha |
| 21:51.17 | Fisker- | "Well it wasn't because we were nerfing them, we were buffing their fun!" |
| 21:51.29 | Saint-N | i guess he's never played against a mage or a lock ;P |
| 21:51.32 | RaydenUni | its annoying to have to use lower level healing spells i think |
| 21:51.40 | rubik | yeah.. what arenas does HE play in? |
| 21:51.52 | RaydenUni | or a rogue. "i'm stunned, but i'll kill him... i'm dead" |
| 21:51.53 | Saint-N | it's all about the burst damage baby |
| 21:52.09 | RaydenUni | i like how this is THE guy for talents, and we all think he's an idios |
| 21:52.10 | RaydenUni | idiot |
| 21:52.11 | Saint-N | the game isnt gonna last longer than 2 minutes so why should you |
| 21:52.14 | Amadeo | I want Rob Pardo back |
| 21:52.25 | Saint-N | i want future crew back |
| 21:52.39 | Saint-N | lies! |
| 21:52.50 | Saint-N | shadow priests are great everywhere ;P |
| 21:52.51 | rubik | "Not every talent will be optimized for every aspect of the game." |
| 21:52.57 | rubik | s/every/any/ |
| 21:52.57 | RaydenUni | screw that, i want to be a discipline priest! |
| 21:52.59 | Antiarc|Work | "no shit?" |
| 21:53.07 | Saint-N | disc priests are annoying at best ;P |
| 21:53.12 | Fisker- | what?! |
| 21:53.16 | RaydenUni | NOONE specs discipline |
| 21:53.17 | Fisker- | protection warrior not viable in pvp? |
| 21:53.28 | Fisker- | how many in the top arena teams are protection again? |
| 21:53.28 | Antiarc|Work | "We'd like to make the prot warrior viable in PVP" |
| 21:53.29 | rubik | haha.. this is great |
| 21:53.30 | Antiarc|Work | NO |
| 21:53.30 | Antiarc|Work | BAD |
| 21:53.37 | Saint-N | this whole thing feels like he threw it together on like tuesday |
| 21:53.39 | RaydenUni | i think this is the comedy section of blizzcon |
| 21:53.47 | Saint-N | and didnt talk to anyone about its content |
| 21:54.04 | Bruners | is that stream live ? |
| 21:54.04 | RaydenUni | i'm paying attention to what you guys are saying now more than what he is saying |
| 21:54.07 | Saint-N | "sometimes"? |
| 21:54.08 | Matrix110 | yes |
| 21:54.08 | rubik | wait.. what? blizzard leery of doing "knee jerk" changes? i thought that's all their patches do? |
| 21:54.11 | Antiarc|Work | Yes, it's live |
| 21:54.15 | Matrix110 | it has like 1min delay orso |
| 21:54.29 | Bruners | well thats more or less live |
| 21:54.30 | Bruners | :) |
| 21:54.32 | RaydenUni | i think he just insulted us |
| 21:54.45 | Saint-N | he doesnt actually play does he |
| 21:54.51 | rubik | "Bears tanking and cats killing." <-- me |
| 21:54.53 | Antiarc|Work | He probably plays a warrior |
| 21:55.00 | Matrix110 | "we run out of time" |
| 21:55.01 | Matrix110 | lol |
| 21:55.03 | Antiarc|Work | "I MS UR FASE" |
| 21:55.08 | RaydenUni | "you sucked, get off the stage" |
| 21:55.09 | Saint-N | hah anti |
| 21:55.13 | Fisker- | gaga |
| 21:55.14 | Fisker- | haha |
| 21:55.14 | Bruners | damn, can i pause this thing |
| 21:55.19 | Saint-N | bahahaha |
| 21:55.27 | Matrix110 | not druids |
| 21:55.29 | Matrix110 | we want mages-.- |
| 21:55.29 | Chompers | do you have a link to this live thing? |
| 21:55.35 | RaydenUni | http://www.giga.de/2/live/free/# |
| 21:55.39 | Bruners | http://nihilum.wazap.com/news/80/ |
| 21:55.42 | RaydenUni | doesn't work in firefox |
| 21:55.45 | Matrix110 | it does |
| 21:55.46 | RaydenUni | and you gotta download a plugin |
| 21:55.47 | Saint-N | thus making warriors meaningless |
| 21:55.51 | Antiarc|Work | Works for me in firefox |
| 21:55.52 | RaydenUni | which 3? |
| 21:55.53 | Saint-N | heh |
| 21:55.53 | rubik | haha |
| 21:55.56 | RaydenUni | warriors, druids, ...? |
| 21:55.59 | RaydenUni | pallies? |
| 21:56.01 | Matrix110 | Paladin |
| 21:56.12 | Saint-N | we thought hey warriors are the only tanks.. lets replace them with other things so the warrs get shafted |
| 21:56.26 | Matrix110 | "we want to make sure that a druid can tank and dps with the same talent build zomg" |
| 21:56.46 | Fisker- | good job! |
| 21:56.55 | Antiarc|Work | Hahahah |
| 21:56.57 | RaydenUni | rogues have 3 talent trees and they can use all 3 trees to do... dps |
| 21:56.59 | Antiarc|Work | At all times, a druid is a healer |
| 21:57.11 | Antiarc|Work | Rogue talent trees = stab harder or whack harder. |
| 21:57.12 | Bruners | hunter get healing abilities |
| 21:57.13 | Antiarc|Work | That's it |
| 21:57.18 | rubik | "No matter what, you still want a druid to heal" <-- (they forgot to add "in cloth gear" at the end) |
| 21:57.18 | Saint-N | we felt that no-one was playing druids so we made them a better healer than priests, better melee dps than rogues and better tanks thank warriors |
| 21:57.19 | *** join/#wowace Xuerian (n=core@wireless-216-222-130-182.citizip.com) |
| 21:57.25 | Saint-N | whoops |
| 21:57.54 | Matrix110 | why does FD get your ooC BUT NOT INVISIBILITY |
| 21:57.57 | RaydenUni | so we made turtles better tanks than even druids |
| 21:58.03 | rubik | LOL! |
| 21:58.06 | Saint-N | dont forget the war pigs |
| 21:58.15 | Bruners | Matrix110: you "die" with feign death |
| 21:58.17 | *** join/#wowace Aiiane (n=Aiiane@static-64-83-15-85.dsl.cavtel.net) |
| 21:58.25 | Matrix110 | i get invisible? |
| 21:58.26 | rubik | <3 misdirection |
| 21:58.33 | rubik | hunters are my friends |
| 21:58.34 | Fisker- | "mend pet changes COMING"? |
| 21:58.41 | Antiarc|Work | Yeah, I caught that too |
| 21:58.45 | dreamss2 | i tought invis droped out ooc |
| 21:58.45 | Bruners | with invis your just get like invisible, the mob still knows your "there" |
| 21:58.45 | Fisker- | :O |
| 21:58.46 | Saint-N | "hunters were teh suhk, so we gave them a pet thats better than them to make them feel good" |
| 21:58.48 | Matrix110 | dps king LOL |
| 21:58.51 | Matrix110 | WTF IS THIS GUY TALKING |
| 21:58.53 | ccKep | lol! |
| 21:58.54 | RaydenUni | i've heard rogues are to top dps charts... |
| 21:58.54 | Xuerian | rofl |
| 21:58.55 | ccKep | screenshotted! |
| 21:59.09 | Matrix110 | Warlock has better Aoe you MORON? |
| 21:59.10 | dreamss2 | Bruners i seen mages wipe recovery with invis in heroics |
| 21:59.11 | rubik | i'm gonna post screenshot fo that in my guild forums... our mages are slackers |
| 21:59.26 | RaydenUni | mages have invisibility? |
| 21:59.34 | RaydenUni | what does that do? |
| 21:59.35 | Saint-N | i bet him using ice spells wouldbe a good tip too |
| 21:59.37 | RaydenUni | never heard of it |
| 21:59.43 | Matrix110 | you go invisible and have a threatwipe |
| 21:59.46 | ccKep | http://www.concilium-wow.de/kep/vlcsnap-606455.png |
| 21:59.51 | Matrix110 | that pretty much was it |
| 21:59.55 | rubik | boos.. haha |
| 21:59.58 | rubik | Paladin |
| 22:00.01 | Fisker- | lol @ alliance n00bs booing |
| 22:00.01 | Antiarc|Work | Hahahah |
| 22:00.06 | Saint-N | bahahahahaha |
| 22:00.15 | Saint-N | they're booing the horde playing them |
| 22:00.18 | dreamss2 | threatwipe means mob dosent know you there anymore? |
| 22:00.21 | Saint-N | not paladins per se |
| 22:00.21 | RaydenUni | probably horde booing for having a pansy class now |
| 22:00.33 | Fisker- | paladins are awesome |
| 22:00.35 | Saint-N | hahahahahahahaha |
| 22:00.39 | Saint-N | didnt step on the toes? |
| 22:00.41 | Matrix110 | dreamss2 yes but you arent going ooc |
| 22:00.42 | RaydenUni | dreamss2 mobs attack those who have the most threat. so threatwipe means you are at the bottom of the list |
| 22:00.43 | *** join/#wowace charon (n=charon@77-56-223-244.dclient.hispeed.ch) |
| 22:00.46 | Saint-N | it took over for priests |
| 22:00.48 | Fisker- | lol |
| 22:00.49 | Fisker- | i knew it |
| 22:00.50 | Fisker- | I KNEW IT |
| 22:00.51 | Saint-N | bahahahahahahahahaha |
| 22:00.56 | Saint-N | dps |
| 22:00.56 | ccKep | DPS DPS DPS! |
| 22:00.57 | Matrix110 | rofl |
| 22:00.58 | Saint-N | hahahaha |
| 22:00.58 | Matrix110 | rofl |
| 22:00.59 | Matrix110 | rofl |
| 22:01.01 | dreamss2 | u still on the list tho |
| 22:01.01 | rubik | "retribution DPS".. hahahahahahahaha |
| 22:01.07 | rubik | powerpoint should have crashed |
| 22:01.08 | dreamss2 | if ppl die mob wil go for you |
| 22:01.11 | dreamss2 | right? |
| 22:01.14 | RaydenUni | so if we want all the hybrid classes to be just as viable as the pure classes, why play pure? |
| 22:01.18 | Matrix110 | not if you are invisible |
| 22:01.22 | Matrix110 | but its only 18sec |
| 22:01.24 | Amadeo | what did I miss? |
| 22:01.26 | Amadeo | I was afk! |
| 22:01.27 | Antiarc|Work | There's no reason to, RaydenUni. |
| 22:01.28 | Saint-N | RaydenUni: im not entirely sure |
| 22:01.29 | RaydenUni | why be warrior if a pally can tank AND heal? |
| 22:01.36 | dreamss2 | so the mob dosent know you there then |
| 22:01.40 | RaydenUni | why be a healing priest if you could be wearing plate? |
| 22:01.41 | dreamss2 | sigh |
| 22:01.43 | Chompers | stupid plugin :< |
| 22:01.49 | rubik | pallies tank with cloth |
| 22:01.51 | RaydenUni | dreamss2 it knows you are there, but is more concerned about others |
| 22:01.52 | NightHawkAtWork | RaydenUni: the problem is the unwashed masses don't understand the concept of viability. |
| 22:01.54 | RaydenUni | how do you not know what threat is? |
| 22:01.55 | rubik | true story |
| 22:02.00 | charon | RaydenUni: look in any druid/paladin thread about versatility vs. panic buttons. *sigh* (and sorry i'm just jumping in) |
| 22:02.03 | Saint-N | the ONLY priest |
| 22:02.07 | NightHawkAtWork | and on top of that, making viable hybrids is a tough job to begin with |
| 22:02.16 | Amadeo | Are they still talking about the past/current? |
| 22:02.20 | RaydenUni | past |
| 22:02.22 | Amadeo | bleh |
| 22:02.23 | RaydenUni | recent past sort of |
| 22:02.29 | RaydenUni | shadow priests in pve now |
| 22:02.31 | Fisker- | lolwell |
| 22:02.31 | Amadeo | hahahaha |
| 22:02.32 | Amadeo | LOLWell |
| 22:02.32 | Saint-N | lolwell |
| 22:02.33 | Amadeo | awesome |
| 22:02.35 | RaydenUni | awesome |
| 22:02.38 | Antiarc|Work | LOLWel |
| 22:02.39 | Matrix110 | LOLWell |
| 22:02.39 | Antiarc|Work | Awesome |
| 22:02.40 | ccKep | lolwell! |
| 22:02.40 | Matrix110 | rofl |
| 22:02.41 | Amadeo | hahahaha |
| 22:02.42 | rubik | Shadow Priest, aka the mana battery |
| 22:02.42 | dreamss2 | RaydenUni, im just saying i seen mages get out alive on heroic wipes using invis, if u droped treath the mob still knows you there |
| 22:02.43 | RaydenUni | i think i like this guy the best |
| 22:02.43 | Matrix110 | looooooool |
| 22:02.43 | Saint-N | improved death |
| 22:02.43 | rubik | HAHAHA |
| 22:02.46 | Saint-N | hahaha |
| 22:02.46 | Matrix110 | ROFL |
| 22:02.52 | Matrix110 | ROOOOOFL |
| 22:03.05 | RaydenUni | dreamss2 that must be because of invis |
| 22:03.14 | cncfanatics | rebuk, how do I get 16k armor unbuffed in cloth ? :o |
| 22:03.18 | cncfanatics | plx tell me plx |
| 22:03.26 | Amadeo | what did they say for Paladins? |
| 22:03.28 | RaydenUni | good, disc is all over the place |
| 22:03.33 | RaydenUni | paladins are now viable at healing |
| 22:03.35 | RaydenUni | i dunno |
| 22:03.37 | Amadeo | rofl |
| 22:03.41 | cncfanatics | hmmmm |
| 22:03.41 | Fisker- | lol obvioously there was cheering |
| 22:03.42 | RaydenUni | pretty much buffed now |
| 22:03.45 | dreamss2 | if the mob resets that means the mob thinks the player is death or not there anymore :P but still knows u there? |
| 22:03.48 | Fisker- | alliance are outnumbering the horde |
| 22:03.51 | cncfanatics | did the blizz guys say something about palas ? :o |
| 22:03.53 | rubik | anyone got screenie of LOLWell |
| 22:03.54 | rubik | ? |
| 22:04.02 | Amadeo | rubik: I'm sure someone will |
| 22:04.03 | Saint-N | cncfanatics: paladin dps |
| 22:04.05 | RaydenUni | are any horde resentful that alliance have shamans now? doesn't seem nearly as much as alliance hating horde having pallies |
| 22:04.07 | Fisker- | yeah retribution fix inc in 2.3 |
| 22:04.08 | ccKep | http://www.concilium-wow.de/kep/vlcsnap-608804.png |
| 22:04.08 | Saint-N | thats all you need to know ;P |
| 22:04.11 | ccKep | @ rubik |
| 22:04.16 | dreamss2 | they bugged healing way so good, makes shaman healing a lol |
| 22:04.18 | cncfanatics | Saint-N, linky ? |
| 22:04.23 | rubik | ccKep: ty! |
| 22:04.27 | Saint-N | just watching the stream, |
| 22:04.27 | RaydenUni | what's Arcanite Reaper? |
| 22:04.33 | Matrix110 | a Axe |
| 22:04.34 | Fisker- | ololol |
| 22:04.34 | CIA-32 | 03ckknight 07ckknight * r45660 10Joker/LibJoker-1.0/LibJoker-1.0.lua: |
| 22:04.34 | CIA-32 | LibJoker-1.0 - use a more sophisticated debugstack hack to figure the current addon folder. |
| 22:04.34 | CIA-32 | - keep track of addons' folders and which folders are loaded. |
| 22:04.34 | CIA-32 | - cleanup any leftover libraries/addons in OnUpdate if they're not caught in ADDON_LOADED/PLAYER_LOGIN |
| 22:04.35 | cncfanatics | btw, RaydenUni: about ur silly questions above |
| 22:04.36 | *** join/#wowace Gokie (n=gokieks@cpe-72-177-14-188.austin.res.rr.com) |
| 22:04.36 | Matrix110 | craftable |
| 22:04.37 | Fisker- | best single target dps |
| 22:04.39 | Fisker- | riiight |
| 22:04.41 | Amadeo | and they all boo |
| 22:04.41 | Saint-N | bullshit |
| 22:04.42 | Amadeo | hahahaha |
| 22:04.49 | Antiarc|Work | Hahaha, right. |
| 22:04.50 | dreamss2 | best weapon before MC came out |
| 22:04.53 | dreamss2 | the raper |
| 22:04.53 | Antiarc|Work | lawls |
| 22:04.56 | Antiarc|Work | laaaaaawls |
| 22:04.58 | cncfanatics | lol |
| 22:05.00 | RaydenUni | "one of the best?" not the best? |
| 22:05.04 | cncfanatics | it has less dps then some 1handers around now :p |
| 22:05.06 | cncfanatics | so funny |
| 22:05.15 | cncfanatics | lael my 1h got bigger dps then yooo reaper |
| 22:05.16 | Saint-N | i love how they just skimmed over priests |
| 22:05.16 | Antiarc|Work | Wait, what? |
| 22:05.18 | Saint-N | hehe |
| 22:05.22 | Antiarc|Work | They've been improving rogue utility? |
| 22:05.24 | Saint-N | priests are fine |
| 22:05.26 | RaydenUni | cncfanatics what about my silly question? i forget which one you are talking about |
| 22:05.33 | cncfanatics | RaydenUni, why play a "pure" class |
| 22:05.34 | Fisker- | improved sap |
| 22:05.36 | Fisker- | about it |
| 22:05.40 | cncfanatics | thing is, there are no pure classes in world of lol |
| 22:05.42 | Amadeo | why make them stronger? make them equal |
| 22:05.46 | CIA-32 | 03ckknight 07ckknight * r45661 10Joker/LibJoker-1.0/LibJoker-1.0.lua: LibJoker-1.0 - also collect garbage at the OnUpdate catch |
| 22:05.47 | RaydenUni | rogues are pretty pure |
| 22:05.47 | Antiarc|Work | Improved sap brings us up to "sub par" as opposed to "pitiful" |
| 22:05.58 | Fisker- | yeah |
| 22:05.59 | Antiarc|Work | Rogues are as pure as they come. |
| 22:06.00 | cncfanatics | a rogue in arena is lovely to shut down a healer |
| 22:06.06 | cncfanatics | rogue pure dps ? |
| 22:06.07 | Saint-N | haha |
| 22:06.12 | cncfanatics | I wont take a rogue to arena for pure dps tbh |
| 22:06.13 | rubik | delicately balanced.. teh rogue is |
| 22:06.15 | Fisker- | atleast he said some truth there |
| 22:06.19 | cncfanatics | but to get rid of a paladin/or whatever other healer |
| 22:06.23 | Fisker- | stunlock or die |
| 22:06.26 | Amadeo | HAHAHA |
| 22:06.26 | RaydenUni | yeah this guy doesn't avoid what the community is talking about |
| 22:06.27 | Saint-N | i got stunlocked by a rogue in wsg once, got out and beat him to death with my fishing pole |
| 22:06.29 | Fisker- | yay |
| 22:06.32 | Amadeo | Super boo's for Warlocks |
| 22:06.33 | Matrix110 | looll |
| 22:06.34 | ccKep | warlock! yay! |
| 22:06.36 | Matrix110 | BOOOOOO |
| 22:06.39 | RaydenUni | with my shadow priest, if i survived the stun i could kill the rogue |
| 22:06.42 | cncfanatics | anyone, is there a written version about what mr blizz said ? :p |
| 22:06.43 | Matrix110 | rofl @audience |
| 22:06.55 | cncfanatics | cant play the livestream for some reason |
| 22:06.58 | RaydenUni | http://www.wowinsider.com/2007/08/03/l/ |
| 22:07.02 | RaydenUni | live blog of class panel |
| 22:07.08 | cncfanatics | ty |
| 22:07.17 | Amadeo | what's the point of this? he's just rambling on stuff |
| 22:07.18 | cncfanatics | wondering what they say tbh |
| 22:07.18 | Saint-N | hahahahaha |
| 22:07.23 | ccKep | haha @ dueling |
| 22:07.24 | cncfanatics | are they gonna fuck up more or fix their shit |
| 22:07.26 | Saint-N | "wow isnt a duelling game |
| 22:07.33 | RaydenUni | he's admitting they realize there are problems |
| 22:07.34 | Amadeo | this is so lame, lol |
| 22:07.40 | RaydenUni | it's nice to hear |
| 22:07.44 | Fisker- | OLOLOL |
| 22:07.46 | RaydenUni | at least it's not "working as intended" |
| 22:07.47 | Fisker- | best class for last |
| 22:07.50 | Fisker- | hahahaha |
| 22:07.56 | Saint-N | hahahaha |
| 22:07.56 | Antiarc|Work | Oh, now we know what he plays. |
| 22:07.57 | Amadeo | RaydenUni: He's not saying they're changing anything, he's just saying how stuff is :P |
| 22:08.14 | RaydenUni | no, he's saying he knows there are problems |
| 22:08.17 | RaydenUni | its the first step |
| 22:08.18 | Matrix110 | they just made it after the abc |
| 22:08.21 | Matrix110 | nothing else |
| 22:08.32 | rubik | HAHAHAHHA |
| 22:08.36 | rubik | talent respecs |
| 22:08.37 | Matrix110 | rofl |
| 22:08.41 | Antiarc|Work | Wow, that's blatant. |
| 22:08.49 | rubik | sooo true |
| 22:08.50 | Antiarc|Work | "The warrior's the best at whatever he decides to do." |
| 22:08.54 | Matrix110 | Warriors get "improved respec" |
| 22:08.55 | Amadeo | hahaha |
| 22:08.57 | Amadeo | you hear that guy? |
| 22:09.00 | Antiarc|Work | Wow. |
| 22:09.03 | Antiarc|Work | I am blown away. |
| 22:09.06 | Saint-N | warriros have decided to heal but they arent good for that |
| 22:09.12 | Fisker- | OH LOL |
| 22:09.18 | Antiarc|Work | ....WHAT |
| 22:09.19 | Fisker- | rogues wanted in arenas? |
| 22:09.28 | Amadeo | rofl |
| 22:09.29 | Antiarc|Work | THE ROGUE MAKES UP FOR WARRIOR DPS IN RAIDS BY BEING MORE VIALBE IN THE ARENA?! |
| 22:09.29 | Amadeo | wtf |
| 22:09.31 | charon | anyone know off hand which (normal mode) 70 instances are stealthable? |
| 22:09.32 | Antiarc|Work | What. The. Hell. |
| 22:09.33 | Antiarc|Work | What. |
| 22:09.35 | Fisker- | lolol |
| 22:09.43 | Saint-N | man this is hilarious |
| 22:09.45 | Amadeo | I hate this guy |
| 22:09.46 | ccKep | heroeees |
| 22:09.47 | Amadeo | lol |
| 22:09.49 | RaydenUni | this guy again? |
| 22:09.57 | Amadeo | yeah, Kalgan |
| 22:09.57 | RaydenUni | let me just say, i love you guys :) |
| 22:10.01 | dreamss2 | wow |
| 22:10.01 | Fisker- | So that was 2 guys more on the sack-list |
| 22:10.07 | RaydenUni | i liked the last guy |
| 22:10.08 | dreamss2 | so much info on shamans -_- |
| 22:10.12 | Antiarc|Work | What the hell. |
| 22:10.17 | rubik | this presentation would be so boring without #wowace commentary |
| 22:10.18 | RaydenUni | he didn't say anything we didn't know |
| 22:10.20 | Xuerian | Who is saying all this? 0_o |
| 22:10.21 | Amadeo | hahah |
| 22:10.22 | Antiarc|Work | That guy just made me want to permanently shelve my rogue. |
| 22:10.24 | RaydenUni | true rubik |
| 22:10.42 | Amadeo | resource system? more vespene gas? |
| 22:10.42 | *** join/#wowace RogueShadow (n=RogueSha@adsl-68-74-104-101.dsl.klmzmi.ameritech.net) |
| 22:10.43 | Fisker- | what the hell? |
| 22:10.45 | cncfanatics | ok its official |
| 22:10.48 | cncfanatics | BLIZZARD FUCKED UP ONCE MORE :p |
| 22:10.52 | Fisker- | Why would they want to make it more complex but NOT BETTER?! |
| 22:10.54 | ckknight | Antiarc|Work: yea, they don't like rogues |
| 22:11.06 | Amadeo | Forking classes |
| 22:11.10 | Diao | rogues are amazing in arena |
| 22:11.12 | Diao | lol |
| 22:11.12 | RaydenUni | i like forking classes |
| 22:11.13 | Amadeo | Forking overpowered classes! |
| 22:11.34 | Amadeo | did he say concentrated coolness? |
| 22:11.37 | RaydenUni | yes |
| 22:11.40 | Matrix110 | yes |
| 22:11.43 | Amadeo | .. |
| 22:11.54 | RaydenUni | yay multiclass |
| 22:12.02 | Amadeo | that's what I'd like to see |
| 22:12.03 | rubik | hmm.. forking |
| 22:12.06 | RaydenUni | yep, me too |
| 22:12.09 | RaydenUni | sort of like GW |
| 22:12.12 | rubik | warrior -> death knight |
| 22:12.13 | RaydenUni | ew |
| 22:12.19 | RaydenUni | i do'nt like the levellig independantly though |
| 22:12.22 | Amadeo | me either |
| 22:12.33 | Amadeo | Well, a Warrior Death Knight can't heal |
| 22:12.34 | RaydenUni | warrior 1-70, death knight 70-80 |
| 22:12.37 | Amadeo | a Shaman Death Knight can |
| 22:12.38 | Amadeo | haha |
| 22:12.55 | ckknight | what is the link? |
| 22:12.59 | cncfanatics | RaydenUni, think it'll be WArrior 1-80 |
| 22:13.02 | Chompers | any warrior comments so far? |
| 22:13.04 | cncfanatics | u got to unluck stuff for death knight ? |
| 22:13.04 | RaydenUni | http://www.giga.de/2/live/free/# |
| 22:13.13 | Matrix110 | cncfanatics yes a questline |
| 22:13.15 | rubik | druid death knight sounds good to me |
| 22:13.18 | RaydenUni | cncfanatics i'm saying it would be cool to do hero subclass from 70-80 |
| 22:13.29 | Amadeo | I'd like a morph too |
| 22:13.31 | cncfanatics | RaydenUni, I'd love it indeed |
| 22:13.37 | RaydenUni | thing is, death knight happens to you. it's not really your choice. so any class could be a death knight |
| 22:13.42 | cncfanatics | Matrix110, a level 80 ala big grind to exalted grind ? |
| 22:13.49 | RaydenUni | you don't really choose to be infected with unholy power |
| 22:13.51 | Matrix110 | not known yet |
| 22:13.56 | RaydenUni | unless you are a warlock of course |
| 22:14.02 | cncfanatics | spriest ? |
| 22:14.05 | Matrix110 | but they said a quest as for example the paladin epic horse questline or the druid epioc flyingform one |
| 22:14.22 | Amadeo | So basically, a year from now, nobody will play normal classes anymore because we'll all be Heros |
| 22:14.24 | cncfanatics | hmmmm |
| 22:14.25 | cncfanatics | it was a pain |
| 22:14.37 | cncfanatics | Amadeo, it'll be normal 1-80 and hero 70-80 |
| 22:14.39 | dreamss2 | whats the link to stream? |
| 22:14.40 | cncfanatics | more time sinks ftw ? |
| 22:14.46 | RaydenUni | yeah, the only way i can see normal classes and hero classes working together is a subclass |
| 22:14.47 | Matrix110 | http://www.giga.de/2/live/free/# |
| 22:14.49 | Fisker- | hero levels have not been decided yet cncfanatics |
| 22:14.50 | rubik | this guy is a genious |
| 22:14.55 | cncfanatics | purl, livestream is http://www.giga.de/2/live/free/# |
| 22:14.56 | purl | cncfanatics: okay |
| 22:15.00 | cncfanatics | that'll help |
| 22:15.03 | cncfanatics | ~livestream |
| 22:15.03 | purl | hmm... livestream is http://www.giga.de/2/live/free/# |
| 22:15.08 | Amadeo | argh |
| 22:15.09 | rubik | noooooooooooooo |
| 22:15.10 | Amadeo | not again |
| 22:15.10 | Fisker- | nooooooo |
| 22:15.15 | Matrix110 | starcraft-.- |
| 22:15.17 | RaydenUni | wait, rolling a death knight will be different from rolling a mage? |
| 22:15.17 | Matrix110 | go die |
| 22:15.17 | Chompers | what's going on? |
| 22:15.17 | Fisker- | i hate you so much giga |
| 22:15.22 | RaydenUni | end of the panel i guess |
| 22:15.23 | Matrix110 | Its Stacraft now |
| 22:15.24 | rubik | commercial break |
| 22:15.24 | Amadeo | they're about to show StarCraft |
| 22:15.25 | Matrix110 | no |
| 22:15.26 | Chompers | why's it all gone funky |
| 22:15.26 | RaydenUni | so commercial time |
| 22:15.26 | Fisker- | they're changing to the starcraft shit |
| 22:15.30 | ulic | ga!!! |
| 22:15.34 | ulic | I hate tourneys |
| 22:15.34 | Ominous | for a new pc for gaming what sized psu should i be aiming for |
| 22:15.40 | Gagorian | !ap 850 |
| 22:15.41 | ThraeBot | Gagorian: Arena points from a rating of 850 is, 2v2: 90, 3v3: 103, 5v5: 129 |
| 22:15.41 | RaydenUni | that looked like a mutalisk |
| 22:15.45 | Gagorian | !ar 850 |
| 22:15.46 | ThraeBot | Gagorian: Arena rating from 850 points is, 2v2: 2217, 3v3: 2043, 5v5: 1866 |
| 22:15.49 | Fisker- | it was RaydenUni |
| 22:15.57 | Matrix110 | Its because Giga2 is normally a eSports channel its broadcasting normally all the WC3/SC/WoW games |
| 22:15.59 | Chompers | what a nerd |
| 22:16.01 | RaydenUni | why was there a muta in the midst of a bunch of warcraft video |
| 22:16.02 | Matrix110 | and neglect the panels |
| 22:16.03 | Chompers | gtfo my screen |
| 22:16.06 | *** join/#wowace gaurong (n=ilovemrd@212-1-143-94.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com) |
| 22:16.17 | cncfanatics | !ap 80 |
| 22:16.18 | ThraeBot | cncfanatics: Rating given is above the threshold for conversion. Try a different number. Or perhaps you meant to convert points to ratings? Either way, you fail at life. |
| 22:16.27 | Matrix110 | !ap 2000 |
| 22:16.27 | ThraeBot | Matrix110: Arena points from a rating of 2000 is, 2v2: 711, 3v3: 812, 5v5: 1015 |
| 22:16.29 | Amadeo | Here's your host: Tasteless |
| 22:16.30 | Amadeo | wtf? |
| 22:16.35 | Matrix110 | !ap 3000 |
| 22:16.36 | ThraeBot | Matrix110: Arena points from a rating of 3000 is, 2v2: 990, 3v3: 1131, 5v5: 1414 |
| 22:16.40 | Diao | lol |
| 22:16.46 | Diao | can't even get to 3k can you |
| 22:16.58 | Matrix110 | why not? |
| 22:17.00 | cncfanatics | u can |
| 22:17.03 | cncfanatics | with a LOT LOT LOT of skill :p |
| 22:17.11 | RaydenUni | lol |
| 22:17.12 | RaydenUni | foreigners |
| 22:17.13 | cncfanatics | dont think there's a cap, but at a point u'll get 1 point per match only |
| 22:17.17 | Keias | And a perfect PC and connnection |
| 22:17.20 | Amadeo | Teste? |
| 22:17.21 | Amadeo | hahahaha |
| 22:17.28 | Keias | Never seen anyone break lower 2600 |
| 22:17.29 | rubik | hahah |
| 22:17.36 | Keias | 2614 or something is the highest I've seen on the armory page |
| 22:17.44 | RaydenUni | lol |
| 22:17.45 | RaydenUni | pics |
| 22:17.48 | cncfanatics | its probably cuz at that point |
| 22:17.59 | cncfanatics | one less is -20 points or so against most teams ? |
| 22:18.18 | Diao | yea |
| 22:18.23 | Diao | unless you consistently fight another 2500+ team |
| 22:18.24 | rubik | Kim "Bunny" Phan... winner name |
| 22:18.27 | Diao | or 2600+ team |
| 22:18.44 | Amadeo | oh god |
| 22:18.46 | Amadeo | not this translator again |
| 22:18.47 | *** join/#wowace sunset (n=sun@ARouen-152-1-63-54.w90-22.abo.wanadoo.fr) |
| 22:18.48 | Amadeo | he's horrid |
| 22:18.51 | Matrix110 | omg |
| 22:18.53 | Matrix110 | please not |
| 22:19.01 | Matrix110 | l2english! |
| 22:19.07 | Matrix110 | *speak |
| 22:19.34 | Chompers | lame |
| 22:19.39 | rubik | his nickname is 'Iris' but he doesn't speak english |
| 22:19.48 | rubik | does "YellOw" speak english? |
| 22:20.03 | Amadeo | he's nervous |
| 22:20.22 | rubik | "Yes, I can kick his ass. Next question?" |
| 22:20.32 | rubik | bad translation |
| 22:20.53 | RaydenUni | http://www.blizzard.com/blizzcon05/players.shtml <-- so which one of these men was he calling attractive? |
| 22:21.09 | Amadeo | "uhhh, we pretty much got lucky and uhhh" |
| 22:21.11 | *** join/#wowace Tem_ (n=tardmrr@WoWUIDev/WoWI/Dongle/Tem) |
| 22:21.11 | Amadeo | hahah |
| 22:21.11 | *** mode/#wowace [+o Tem_] by ChanServ |
| 22:21.14 | RaydenUni | oh wrong blizzcon |
| 22:21.31 | RaydenUni | a lot of the same players |
| 22:21.35 | RaydenUni | yellow, testie, grubby |
| 22:22.21 | Amadeo | Tasteless looks like he has a MySpace AND Facebook page |
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| 22:22.38 | cncfanatics | hmmm |
| 22:22.41 | cncfanatics | my internet is suffering |
| 22:22.46 | cncfanatics | warhammer online stuff, blizzcon, c&c3 |
| 22:22.57 | Matrix110 | the stream uses upload from your connection |
| 22:23.04 | Matrix110 | so it slows it down quite alot |
| 22:24.22 | rubik | correction: uses ALL your upstream |
| 22:24.34 | *** join/#wowace Sole (n=chatzill@203.109.161.194) |
| 22:26.19 | cncfanatics | hmmm |
| 22:26.26 | Chompers | terrifying |
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| 22:26.33 | cncfanatics | are they actualy gonna broadcoast the starcraft game on that channel ? |
| 22:26.36 | cncfanatics | I'd love to see it tbh |
| 22:26.37 | CIA-32 | 03ckknight 07ckknight * r45662 10Joker/ (7 files in 7 dirs): LibJoker-1.0 - rename :GetRecycleFunctions => :GetRecyclingFunctions |
| 22:26.40 | Matrix110 | they are |
| 22:26.44 | Sole | hmm so I was right |
| 22:26.46 | cncfanatics | completely ? |
| 22:26.48 | Sole | northrend is the next expansion |
| 22:26.55 | cncfanatics | Sole, ur late |
| 22:27.01 | Sole | shh I just woke up |
| 22:27.19 | Amadeo | I like how they're using CRTs |
| 22:27.44 | cncfanatics | btw Sole |
| 22:27.50 | cncfanatics | enjoy the starcraft game if u want :p |
| 22:27.52 | cncfanatics | ~livestream |
| 22:27.52 | purl | hmm... livestream is http://www.giga.de/2/live/free/# |
| 22:28.11 | Chompers | "wooo..." |
| 22:28.25 | cncfanatics | I love starcraft so I dont mind |
| 22:28.34 | Amadeo | I loved it 20 years ago |
| 22:28.49 | cncfanatics | no u didnt |
| 22:28.50 | NightHawkAtWork | Amadeo: 20 years ago huh? |
| 22:29.02 | NightHawkAtWork | Was blizzard even around 20 years go? |
| 22:29.03 | Amadeo | Yeah |
| 22:29.04 | Amadeo | or 30 |
| 22:29.14 | NightHawkAtWork | s/go/ago |
| 22:29.17 | NightHawkAtWork | meh. |
| 22:29.19 | Amadeo | No, but StarCraft was! |
| 22:29.40 | Amadeo | rofl... |
| 22:29.42 | RaydenUni | lol |
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| 22:30.08 | RaydenUni | one can hope... |
| 22:30.11 | cncfanatics | was <insert company> even around <insert number> years ago ? no, but <insert game made by that company here> was ! |
| 22:30.15 | cncfanatics | LOL |
| 22:30.32 | Amadeo | It was an age exaggeration, guys :P |
| 22:30.50 | NightHawkAtWork | YOU'RE an age exaggeration |
| 22:30.59 | Amadeo | Your mom's an age exaggeration! |
| 22:31.03 | Sole | hmm |
| 22:31.13 | RaydenUni | the problem with me going to blizzon would be my friends thinking it was too nerdy to go watch the tournament |
| 22:31.18 | NightHawkAtWork | a) yeah. she totaly is. b) you broke the nice lined up nature of our conversation! |
| 22:31.24 | Amadeo | haha |
| 22:31.28 | Sole | northrend actually looks like a decent expansion, only thing Im worried about is yet again, a fun end game |
| 22:31.50 | Sole | siege weps is cool |
| 22:31.57 | NightHawkAtWork | Amadeo: http://xkcd.com/276/ :P |
| 22:32.46 | Amadeo | Keylogger! |
| 22:33.05 | NightHawkAtWork | I keylogged your mom. |
| 22:33.08 | Bruners | might be alot of noobs in the audience |
| 22:35.30 | CIA-32 | 03sylvanaar * r45663 10Prat/Prat_Modules/modules/ChatButtons.lua: Prat: small tweak to chatbuttons |
| 22:38.02 | Amadeo | Iris is done for |
| 22:39.08 | *** part/#wowace Aondo (i=stian@85.19.195.72) |
| 22:39.10 | Matrix110 | roflmao at this commentatot |
| 22:39.11 | Matrix110 | *or |
| 22:40.00 | cncfanatics | terrans rushing :o |
| 22:40.09 | cncfanatics | usualy zerg should be doing that |
| 22:41.16 | Amadeo | oh damn |
| 22:42.18 | Amadeo | I was wrong |
| 22:42.24 | Amadeo | Iris wins! |
| 22:42.36 | cncfanatics | that iris guy is goo |
| 22:42.38 | cncfanatics | damn good |
| 22:42.40 | cncfanatics | terran rushes ? |
| 22:42.41 | cncfanatics | crazy :p |
| 22:42.48 | Amadeo | haha |
| 22:42.50 | cncfanatics | I was expecting a long game |
| 22:42.51 | Amadeo | maybe not |
| 22:42.54 | Amadeo | he's doing well still somehow |
| 22:43.30 | Amadeo | hah |
| 22:43.39 | RaydenUni | cool game |
| 22:43.49 | cncfanatics | bye bye yellow |
| 22:43.50 | RaydenUni | yellow didnt do anything |
| 22:43.55 | cncfanatics | indeed |
| 22:43.55 | Amadeo | yeah that was pretty lame |
| 22:44.01 | Amadeo | Of yell0w |
| 22:44.11 | cncfanatics | think he got, ehm whats the word again |
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| 22:44.16 | cncfanatics | purl , help me |
| 22:44.20 | cncfanatics | ~owned |
| 22:44.20 | purl | No one gives a shit, cncfanatics. |
| 22:44.28 | cncfanatics | haha |
| 22:44.56 | RaydenUni | she knows nothing |
| 22:45.17 | RaydenUni | and he sucks at making games |
| 22:45.37 | cncfanatics | who is he ? |
| 22:45.43 | cncfanatics | I know she is probably just a random girl they took for looks |
| 22:45.44 | Matrix110 | a WC3 host |
| 22:45.45 | RaydenUni | he said he was a teammate of one of the players |
| 22:45.50 | RaydenUni | she is a giga person i think |
| 22:45.52 | Matrix110 | no shes a quite famous WC3 host |
| 22:45.53 | Matrix110 | no |
| 22:45.57 | RaydenUni | giga wc3 shoutcaster? |
| 22:45.59 | Matrix110 | she hosts alot WC3 games |
| 22:46.02 | Matrix110 | no not from giga |
| 22:46.05 | Amadeo | She can host my games |
| 22:46.05 | RaydenUni | oh ok |
| 22:46.07 | Matrix110 | the asian guy is from giga |
| 22:46.25 | RaydenUni | i should do something today... |
| 22:46.26 | cncfanatics | ok nvm then :p |
| 22:46.32 | cncfanatics | RaydenUni, go do my job |
| 22:46.42 | RaydenUni | i should do my job |
| 22:46.45 | RaydenUni | i haven't done any today |
| 22:46.48 | RaydenUni | i just don't feel like it |
| 22:46.50 | RaydenUni | woah, a new game |
| 22:47.09 | RaydenUni | change camera! |
| 22:47.54 | RaydenUni | this map is the turtlers dream |
| 22:48.37 | cncfanatics | yea |
| 22:48.38 | Amadeo | it just froze for me |
| 22:48.40 | cncfanatics | rushes out of the question |
| 22:48.41 | RaydenUni | me too |
| 22:48.42 | Chompers | it stopped |
| 22:48.43 | cncfanatics | froze for me too |
| 22:48.43 | Matrix110 | froze |
| 22:48.45 | Matrix110 | ZOMG |
| 22:48.50 | Matrix110 | END OF THE WORLD |
| 22:48.51 | RaydenUni | that seems like a sign for me to go do something |
| 22:48.55 | cncfanatics | terran turtlers <3 |
| 22:48.57 | RaydenUni | maybe i should go buy BF2 for the LAN tonight |
| 22:49.06 | Chompers | i want more warcraft |
| 22:49.07 | cncfanatics | tanks + bunkers + lots of anti air |
| 22:49.16 | RaydenUni | goliaths |
| 22:49.25 | CIA-32 | 03sylvanaar * r45664 10Prat/Prat_Modules/modules/ (ChannelSticky.lua CustomFilters.lua PlayerNames.lua): Prat: Tweak debug calls to either pass only parameters, or use a guard around formatted strings |
| 22:49.34 | RaydenUni | http://www.craftingworlds.com/savemurlocs/BabyMurlocDance.mp3 |
| 22:49.51 | RaydenUni | i like that song |
| 22:49.52 | cncfanatics | goliaths take supply depots tho |
| 22:49.54 | cncfanatics | but yea that rock |
| 22:50.05 | Amadeo | let me know if anyone gets a live stream again |
| 22:50.10 | RaydenUni | it's back |
| 22:50.18 | RaydenUni | and now we get the blizzcon ad thingie |
| 22:50.23 | RaydenUni | it reset for me |
| 22:50.45 | Matrix110 | froze again |
| 22:50.48 | Matrix110 | now i see windows |
| 22:50.49 | Amadeo | um |
| 22:50.50 | Amadeo | yeah |
| 22:50.50 | Chompers | hahaha |
| 22:50.51 | Amadeo | hahahah |
| 22:50.51 | Matrix110 | some shit |
| 22:50.51 | Bruners | yep |
| 22:50.52 | Matrix110 | lol |
| 22:50.53 | Chompers | windows |
| 22:50.58 | Amadeo | Windows crashed |
| 22:50.58 | Amadeo | rofl |
| 22:51.00 | *** join/#wowace Tuller (n=chatzill@c-76-27-166-119.hsd1.va.comcast.net) |
| 22:51.02 | Matrix110 | rofl |
| 22:51.15 | *** join/#wowace attumen (n=attumen@p54980EBD.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 22:51.19 | Chompers | did he screw up his tcp settings? |
| 22:51.27 | Matrix110 | now it works |
| 22:51.30 | cncfanatics | I hope they paused it |
| 22:51.37 | Matrix110 | you cant pause a livestream :P |
| 22:51.49 | cncfanatics | the game |
| 22:51.53 | Matrix110 | no |
| 22:51.59 | Matrix110 | just check the map |
| 22:52.03 | Matrix110 | how far advanced it is now |
| 22:52.05 | cncfanatics | didnt reconnect yet |
| 22:52.14 | cncfanatics | fucking IE had to crash |
| 22:52.28 | Matrix110 | dont watch it inside oyur browser |
| 22:52.34 | Matrix110 | watch it in WMP directly |
| 22:52.35 | Amadeo | copy the link and open it in WMP |
| 22:52.37 | Amadeo | yeah |
| 22:52.49 | cncfanatics | this link ? |
| 22:52.51 | cncfanatics | ~livestream |
| 22:52.52 | purl | livestream is, like, at http://giga.de/2/live/free/# |
| 22:52.57 | Matrix110 | http://127.0.0.1:6498/ms/asf/EPGIGA.giga350/Octoshape?MSWMExt=.asf |
| 22:52.59 | Matrix110 | this one |
| 22:53.07 | cncfanatics | 127.0.0.1 ? :o |
| 22:53.22 | Matrix110 | yes |
| 22:53.28 | LePeR|Jaunia | http://tv.gotfrag.com/ |
| 22:54.34 | Matrix110 | i would like to see live from the players perspective |
| 22:54.45 | Matrix110 | it looks so insane how fast they do things:P |
| 22:55.25 | cncfanatics | woo insane |
| 22:55.27 | cncfanatics | long live mplayer |
| 22:55.31 | cncfanatics | managed to get it on linux now |
| 22:56.18 | cncfanatics | quality sucks zoomed in :p |
| 22:56.33 | Matrix110 | pay and you get better quality:P |
| 22:57.14 | cncfanatics | I'll bother |
| 22:57.19 | cncfanatics | zoomed in low quality is fine |
| 22:57.23 | cncfanatics | at least now I can zoom :p |
| 22:57.24 | Amadeo | yell0w rocks at microing his mutas, but he doesn't do the rest of his game |
| 22:57.25 | Chompers | what's macroing? |
| 22:57.32 | cncfanatics | micromanaging |
| 22:57.35 | Dustwhisper | hmm |
| 22:57.42 | Dustwhisper | been a while since i watched a bw match now |
| 22:57.45 | Matrix110 | purl, livestream is http://giga.de/2/live/free/# or http://127.0.0.1:6498/ms/asf/EPGIGA.giga350/Octoshape?MSWMExt=.asf directly in the browser |
| 22:57.46 | purl | ...but livestream is already something else... |
| 22:57.56 | cncfanatics | Matrix110 |
| 22:57.59 | Matrix110 | purl, forget livestream |
| 22:57.59 | purl | i forgot livestream, Matrix110 |
| 22:58.02 | Matrix110 | purl, livestream is http://giga.de/2/live/free/# or http://127.0.0.1:6498/ms/asf/EPGIGA.giga350/Octoshape?MSWMExt=.asf directly in the browser |
| 22:58.03 | purl | Matrix110: okay |
| 22:58.06 | cncfanatics | you should specify that the second will only work if that program is active |
| 22:58.16 | Matrix110 | purl, forget livestream |
| 22:58.16 | purl | Matrix110: i forgot livestream |
| 22:58.20 | *** join/#wowace NM|Xinhuan (i=xinhuan@adsl1500-141.dyn83.pacific.net.sg) |
| 22:58.22 | cncfanatics | I had to activate the proggie from command line even tho it always tells me the channel dsnt exist |
| 22:58.24 | Matrix110 | purl, livestream is http://giga.de/2/live/free/# or http://127.0.0.1:6498/ms/asf/EPGIGA.giga350/Octoshape?MSWMExt=.asf directly in the browser(if octoshape is running) |
| 22:58.24 | purl | Matrix110: okay |
| 22:58.41 | *** part/#wowace Punkie` (n=~@host86-144-170-63.range86-144.btcentralplus.com) |
| 22:58.48 | Matrix110 | purl, forget livestream |
| 22:58.48 | purl | i forgot livestream, Matrix110 |
| 22:58.51 | cncfanatics | wth does yellow do except microing his mutants ? |
| 22:58.55 | Amadeo | Iris got this again |
| 22:58.57 | Matrix110 | purl, livestream is http://giga.de/2/live/free/# or http://127.0.0.1:6498/ms/asf/EPGIGA.giga350/Octoshape?MSWMExt=.asf directly in the player(if octoshape is running) |
| 22:58.57 | purl | Matrix110: okay |
| 22:58.59 | Matrix110 | now its ok |
| 22:59.00 | Matrix110 | :P |
| 22:59.02 | Matrix110 | ~livestream |
| 22:59.03 | purl | [livestream] http://giga.de/2/live/free/# or http://127.0.0.1:6498/ms/asf/EPGIGA.giga350/Octoshape?MSWMExt=.asf directly in the player(if octoshape is running) |
| 22:59.16 | cncfanatics | bye bye yellow u suck |
| 22:59.25 | cncfanatics | or not :o |
| 22:59.35 | Amadeo | haha |
| 22:59.44 | cncfanatics | but he got yellow into defensive |
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| 22:59.48 | Amadeo | yeah |
| 23:00.14 | cncfanatics | that iris loves to rush |
| 23:00.26 | Chompers | he's dead |
| 23:00.27 | Fisker- | btw Antiarc|Work |
| 23:00.40 | cncfanatics | yellow should play defensivly from start & focus on base defense tbh |
| 23:00.43 | Fisker- | i'm totally looking forward to blizzard changing "Warrior"-changes out with "Fun Buffs |
| 23:00.44 | Fisker- | " |
| 23:00.54 | Fisker- | "We made these abillities better!" |
| 23:01.00 | Fisker- | (By nerfing another abillity) |
| 23:01.02 | cncfanatics | Fisker-, warrior is fine |
| 23:01.04 | Chompers | what did they say about warriors? |
| 23:01.07 | Chompers | i missed that |
| 23:01.16 | Fisker- | Chompers they said that they didn't nerf them |
| 23:01.22 | Chompers | sweet |
| 23:01.22 | Fisker- | they just buffed their fun! |
| 23:01.24 | cncfanatics | where's the yellow morron with his fucking mutants now ? |
| 23:01.25 | cncfanatics | moron |
| 23:01.36 | xyu | Can shift be a macro modifier? |
| 23:01.44 | Diao | yes |
| 23:01.51 | xyu | kk thx ^^ |
| 23:02.01 | Amadeo | Yell0w's done now |
| 23:02.08 | cncfanatics | yellow's either sucking, or always sucks |
| 23:02.34 | Amadeo | all they did was talk about how great he was |
| 23:02.39 | Amadeo | and all he does is lose |
| 23:02.45 | cncfanatics | I could beat him :p |
| 23:02.53 | Amadeo | my ass |
| 23:02.55 | Amadeo | haha |
| 23:02.57 | cncfanatics | (a) |
| 23:02.58 | Matrix110 | i highly doubt that:P |
| 23:03.01 | Chompers | "own this noob" |
| 23:03.03 | cncfanatics | sarcasm ftw |
| 23:03.06 | Chompers | someone slap him |
| 23:03.13 | *** join/#wowace QuantumDelta (i=blahblah@77-99-38-93.cable.ubr04.chap.blueyonder.co.uk) |
| 23:03.40 | cncfanatics | btw, 2-0 is done ? |
| 23:03.46 | cncfanatics | too bad |
| 23:03.50 | Matrix110 | there is a looserbracket or smth |
| 23:03.53 | cncfanatics | yo QD |
| 23:04.00 | Antiarc|Work | You know, I'm actually really enjoying watching these matches |
| 23:04.06 | QuantumDelta | heya |
| 23:04.07 | cncfanatics | me too :p |
| 23:04.10 | Antiarc|Work | I'm looking forward to the WoW arena finals. |
| 23:04.10 | Amadeo | Antiarc|Work: same :) |
| 23:04.12 | cncfanatics | learns me stuff too tbh |
| 23:04.14 | Antiarc|Work | That's going to be awesome to watch. |
| 23:04.16 | Amadeo | Antiarc|Work: If they even show it :( |
| 23:04.22 | cncfanatics | arent arena matches like, 3v3 ? |
| 23:04.26 | cncfanatics | should have been 5v5 tbh |
| 23:04.32 | Amadeo | I like 3v3 more |
| 23:04.33 | QuantumDelta | getting frustrated with this stupid octosoftware junk and the streaming for that event :< |
| 23:04.42 | Fisker- | http://forums.wow-europe.com/thread.html?topicId=305802039&postId=3054350656&sid=1#0 <-i think i'm gonna be banned for this Antiarc|Work |
| 23:04.42 | cncfanatics | QD, mplayer works lovely |
| 23:04.44 | *** join/#wowace orican (n=orican@ppp121-45-214-239.lns2.bne1.internode.on.net) |
| 23:04.44 | cncfanatics | stream it directly |
| 23:04.50 | Amadeo | cncfanatics: You still need Octo |
| 23:04.51 | cncfanatics | instead of using IE |
| 23:05.02 | QuantumDelta | doesn't seem to wanna work even tho i have octo running ;\ |
| 23:05.03 | cncfanatics | Amadeo, I got it running in a console, doing nothing lol |
| 23:05.20 | cncfanatics | ~livestream |
| 23:05.20 | purl | livestream is, like, http://giga.de/2/live/free/# or http://127.0.0.1:6498/ms/asf/EPGIGA.giga350/Octoshape?MSWMExt=.asf directly in the player(if octoshape is running) |
| 23:05.36 | QuantumDelta | *aware o that* :P |
| 23:05.50 | Amadeo | cncfanatics: the .asf file is at 127.0.0.1 for octoshape |
| 23:06.25 | Antiarc|Work | If I could get a TV channel running things like this, I'd watch it. |
| 23:06.25 | cncfanatics | should just read the asf file to get the actual stream |
| 23:06.26 | cncfanatics | sec |
| 23:06.26 | Matrix110 | WoW Seminfals start in 1hr |
| 23:06.26 | Amadeo | Antiarc|Work: me too, that's what I've been wanting |
| 23:06.26 | Amadeo | just matches, all day |
| 23:06.29 | Antiarc|Work | WoW semifinals are at 4 PM, aren't they? |
| 23:06.31 | Antiarc|Work | That's now |
| 23:06.43 | Amadeo | yeah, they probably won't even show it :( |
| 23:06.51 | [Liquidor] | Yo checkout my new reputation calculator :) http://img530.imageshack.us/img530/9175/repcalcqr9.jpg ... Still needs a bit more work with the styling (colors and the formular at top). Going to make it possibleto click each faction for a guidance and calculation on what to do to improve the current reputation level. |
| 23:06.59 | cncfanatics | hmmm, its pretty secure |
| 23:07.03 | cncfanatics | its still a 127 even there |
| 23:07.12 | Matrix110 | Antiarc|Work it got delayed everything afaik |
| 23:07.17 | Antiarc|Work | ah |
| 23:07.19 | [Liquidor] | If any of you are interested I'll hand you my datasheet if you'd like to make an ingame addon doing the same. |
| 23:07.24 | QuantumDelta | still no luck here ;\ |
| 23:07.24 | Matrix110 | but iam not sure |
| 23:07.26 | cncfanatics | lemme get ettercap running |
| 23:07.34 | Chompers | that sounds bad Fisker- |
| 23:07.35 | cncfanatics | QD, I should have a direct url for u soon after I datamined it |
| 23:07.45 | Chompers | 'buffing our fun' could mean anything :< |
| 23:07.47 | QuantumDelta | thank ya kindly |
| 23:08.10 | Matrix110 | url for? |
| 23:08.20 | Matrix110 | the plugin? |
| 23:08.26 | QuantumDelta | the stream |
| 23:08.32 | Matrix110 | ~livestream |
| 23:08.32 | purl | methinks livestream is http://giga.de/2/live/free/# or http://127.0.0.1:6498/ms/asf/EPGIGA.giga350/Octoshape?MSWMExt=.asf directly in the player(if octoshape is running) |
| 23:08.42 | cncfanatics | that still wont work before u get that plugin tho |
| 23:08.53 | cncfanatics | I want the actual real nonspoofed stream |
| 23:08.56 | QuantumDelta | *has* the plugin and it's running but |
| 23:09.10 | Amadeo | Antiarc|Work: Maybe this is it |
| 23:09.22 | Amadeo | YES |
| 23:09.23 | Amadeo | :D |
| 23:09.29 | Antiarc|Work | YAY |
| 23:09.30 | Chompers | woo |
| 23:09.33 | Amadeo | between what? |
| 23:09.33 | Chompers | wow at last |
| 23:09.37 | Amadeo | LOD and Nashua? |
| 23:09.41 | cncfanatics | wont get the damn thing right before I close my torrents :( |
| 23:09.41 | Matrix110 | my Battlegroup wins hopefully! |
| 23:09.42 | cncfanatics | too much connects |
| 23:09.52 | *** join/#wowace Qaarh (n=Qaarh@ti211110a340-0165.bb.online.no) |
| 23:09.58 | Antiarc|Work | Log vs Nashwan |
| 23:10.03 | Amadeo | Keias: Do you still have any chars on Auchindoun? |
| 23:10.18 | Keias | a naked level 70 orc warlock |
| 23:10.24 | Amadeo | you gave him up? |
| 23:11.07 | *** join/#wowace Tanja (n=tanjaves@212-200-207-241.adsl.sezampro.yu) |
| 23:11.31 | Amadeo | I like her voice in the song that's playing |
| 23:11.33 | Amadeo | whoever it is |
| 23:11.45 | Chompers | isn't it a dude |
| 23:11.51 | Amadeo | I hope not |
| 23:12.11 | Antiarc|Work | "The original BC dungeon boss listing, including one more raid dungeon including 6 more raid bosses, coming out before Wrath of the Lich King, very cool!" |
| 23:12.15 | *** join/#wowace Galka (n=Galka@pool-72-88-183-162.nwrknj.east.verizon.net) |
| 23:12.24 | Amadeo | interesting |
| 23:12.29 | Bruners | got to love free epics from chess event |
| 23:12.30 | Tanja | Serbia!!! |
| 23:12.32 | Tanja | Serbia!!! |
| 23:12.37 | Tanja | Serbia!!! |
| 23:12.39 | Tanja | Serbia!!!Serbia!!! |
| 23:12.41 | Tanja | Serbia!!! |
| 23:12.42 | Mudkipz | ya bye bye |
| 23:12.43 | Tanja | Serbia!!! |
| 23:12.43 | Chompers | gtfo |
| 23:12.44 | *** mode/#wowace [+b *!*@212-200-207-241.adsl.sezampro.yu] by ckknight |
| 23:12.44 | *** kick/#wowace [Tanja!n=ckknight@rrcs-74-62-251-185.west.biz.rr.com] by ckknight (ckknight) |
| 23:12.45 | Antiarc|Work | ckknight: ping |
| 23:12.47 | Mudkipz | lols |
| 23:12.48 | Antiarc|Work | Yay. |
| 23:12.49 | ckknight | pong |
| 23:12.55 | Ominous | ckknight: /cheer |
| 23:13.00 | Antiarc|Work | That was mostly just to get your attention |
| 23:13.02 | ckknight | Slovakia ftw |
| 23:13.04 | Fisker- | i think he had a just cause |
| 23:13.06 | cncfanatics | wth |
| 23:13.09 | Mudkipz | ¬_¬ |
| 23:13.09 | Amadeo | haha wtf |
| 23:13.10 | cncfanatics | that fucking stream doesnt appear |
| 23:13.10 | ckknight | Serbia ftl |
| 23:13.13 | cncfanatics | in the fucking QD |
| 23:13.14 | Amadeo | hahaha |
| 23:13.27 | Amadeo | cncfanatics: I think someone said Octo is a P2P tool to stream this |
| 23:13.37 | QuantumDelta | hmm -.- |
| 23:13.39 | Ominous | ckknight: hows Joker coming along, ? |
| 23:13.40 | cncfanatics | Amadeo, I should get something on ettercap |
| 23:13.42 | cncfanatics | there must be a connection :p |
| 23:13.49 | ckknight | Ominous: quite well, working on DB |
| 23:13.54 | cncfanatics | only my irc shows up |
| 23:14.04 | Ominous | ckknight: alpha/beta anytime soon? |
| 23:14.21 | ckknight | I'll tell you when it's complete |
| 23:14.26 | ckknight | there will be no alpha/beta process |
| 23:14.30 | Ominous | ah k |
| 23:14.35 | Bruners | what will joker be ? |
| 23:14.39 | ckknight | not really, at least |
| 23:14.42 | Chompers | awesome |
| 23:14.44 | ckknight | Bruners: Ace3 |
| 23:14.45 | Chompers | that's what |
| 23:14.48 | *** join/#wowace Keya (n=patrick@xdsl-213-196-253-236.netcologne.de) |
| 23:14.51 | Bruners | aha |
| 23:15.10 | ckknight | my thought process is that if I just make shitloads of unit tests, things'll work out |
| 23:15.29 | Ominous | what exactly are unit tests? |
| 23:15.29 | cncfanatics | ckknight, advantages over ace2 ? :p |
| 23:15.39 | Amadeo | it's got a 3 in it |
| 23:15.47 | ckknight | it's 1.5x better, obviously |
| 23:15.49 | Amadeo | which is higher than 2 |
| 23:15.54 | Amadeo | so, there you go! |
| 23:16.19 | ckknight | cncfanatics: consistent API throughout, nicer API, slimmer, faster |
| 23:16.21 | Matrix110 | uhm only i got B/W pic atm? |
| 23:16.32 | *** join/#wowace Xuerian (n=core@wireless-216-222-130-182.citizip.com) |
| 23:16.40 | QuantumDelta | guhh |
| 23:16.47 | cncfanatics | ckknight, what changes needed to make addons work with Ace3 from Ace2 ? |
| 23:16.47 | Matrix110 | now color is back |
| 23:16.50 | Bruners | will there be any new epic quivers/pouches ? |
| 23:16.51 | *** part/#wowace Keya (n=patrick@xdsl-213-196-253-236.netcologne.de) |
| 23:16.52 | Amadeo | A guy sent his iPhone in to Apple's warranty service department, and Apple fixed it and sent back his phone with a toolkit: http://www.hardocp.com/images/news/1186164978MTJa5cT0Cy_1_1_l.jpg |
| 23:16.54 | Chompers | try and count all the fat people |
| 23:17.07 | Chompers | even better, fat people in shorts |
| 23:17.11 | ckknight | cncfanatics: for libraries, the registration process changes dramatically (to be a lot cleaner) |
| 23:17.29 | ckknight | cncfanatics: for addons, you'd need to update for the new API, which is mostly just renaming except for a few fringe cases |
| 23:17.31 | Fisker- | Amadeo what did it cost him? |
| 23:17.32 | Fisker- | 50$? |
| 23:17.36 | Amadeo | haha, I dunno |
| 23:17.37 | ckknight | it really wouldn't take long to update |
| 23:18.24 | Amadeo | Fisker-: Maybe more, since it's obviously an iClip |
| 23:18.52 | ckknight | cncfanatics: much less of a hassle from Ace1 -> Ace2, at least |
| 23:19.08 | cncfanatics | ckknight, great, no major recodes I hope ? |
| 23:19.12 | cncfanatics | cuz I use AceOO extensivly |
| 23:19.21 | Fisker- | i figured Amadeo |
| 23:19.33 | ckknight | cncfanatics: AceOO's taken out :-P |
| 23:19.43 | ckknight | at least out of core |
| 23:19.56 | cncfanatics | QuantumDelta |
| 23:19.59 | cncfanatics | the thing is indeed p2p |
| 23:20.05 | QuantumDelta | hmm |
| 23:20.14 | cncfanatics | and when I try to leech from someone directly |
| 23:20.15 | ckknight | cncfanatics: in my wisdom and hindsight, I really don't see a big need for AceOO over standard prototyping |
| 23:20.15 | QuantumDelta | I wonder if my router is killing it |
| 23:20.17 | cncfanatics | it refuses the connection |
| 23:20.37 | cncfanatics | ckknight, I work on Buttonframes, I like each button being an object |
| 23:20.48 | cncfanatics | with a base class they all inherit from |
| 23:20.54 | ckknight | cncfanatics: if I were to do it my way, I'd just treat the frames as objects and manipulate |
| 23:21.37 | cncfanatics | hmmmm |
| 23:21.46 | cncfanatics | but then all my lovely inheritting wouldnt work |
| 23:21.59 | cncfanatics | modules can make a mixin where the base class inherits from for added features |
| 23:23.23 | cncfanatics | QuantumDelta: it uses regular http for connections |
| 23:23.29 | cncfanatics | if you know how to send fake headers you can spoof it |
| 23:23.38 | cncfanatics | in thinking ur a octothingy user |
| 23:23.39 | QuantumDelta | over my head ;p |
| 23:23.46 | QuantumDelta | problem is |
| 23:23.48 | QuantumDelta | erm.. |
| 23:23.55 | QuantumDelta | I have the codec, I have the octothingy :P |
| 23:24.01 | QuantumDelta | both work fine |
| 23:24.20 | cncfanatics | I found who's streaming me :p |
| 23:24.23 | cncfanatics | sec |
| 23:24.25 | QuantumDelta | but I can't connect to the actual stream oO |
| 23:24.54 | *** join/#wowace Caboose[FH] (n=Caboose9@cpe-66-8-166-254.hawaii.res.rr.com) |
| 23:24.58 | Mudkipz | how much would you sell the Boar's Speed formula? |
| 23:25.49 | Antiarc|Work | wowecon.com |
| 23:25.49 | cncfanatics | damn their connection protocol is weird |
| 23:25.56 | Antiarc|Work | Find out what it's going for on your server |
| 23:26.05 | Amadeo | Antiarc|Work: I'm still amazed that people use that |
| 23:26.16 | cncfanatics | it sends requests to other people, wait for a reply that their request has arrived, then closes the connection, if someone actualy accepts it, he will open a connection himself & start sending |
| 23:26.37 | Boubouille | Antiarc|Work : the armory survived ! |
| 23:26.37 | Boubouille | :D |
| 23:26.50 | Boubouille | I don't really know how. |
| 23:26.59 | cncfanatics | Boubouille, what are u doing with the armory ? :o |
| 23:27.46 | Boubouille | i'm talking about the armory tools |
| 23:28.00 | Boubouille | I crashed my whole server, but the armory was still happily online |
| 23:29.05 | cncfanatics | ur trying to crash the armory ? |
| 23:29.14 | Amadeo | lol |
| 23:29.30 | Amadeo | He's not talking about Blizzard's armory site |
| 23:29.37 | *** join/#wowace weab_ (n=asdf@cpe-72-179-16-64.austin.res.rr.com) |
| 23:29.43 | cncfanatics | enlighten me with an url ? |
| 23:29.45 | Fisker- | StarCraft III Semifinals |
| 23:29.45 | Fisker- | 7:30pm - 9pm |
| 23:29.45 | QuantumDelta | feck it... |
| 23:29.46 | Fisker- | hahaha |
| 23:29.52 | Fisker- | StarCraft 3 Semifinals |
| 23:29.56 | Fisker- | looking forward to it |
| 23:30.10 | art3mis | you missed the date on there |
| 23:30.15 | art3mis | thats for blizzcon 2018 |
| 23:30.36 | cncfanatics | QuantumDelta |
| 23:30.45 | cncfanatics | if they're all running, tried openning wmp & using the second url ? |
| 23:30.48 | cncfanatics | ~livestream |
| 23:30.49 | purl | i heard livestream is http://giga.de/2/live/free/# or http://127.0.0.1:6498/ms/asf/EPGIGA.giga350/Octoshape?MSWMExt=.asf directly in the player(if octoshape is running) |
| 23:30.53 | cncfanatics | the 127 one |
| 23:32.37 | *** join/#wowace QD-san (i=blahblah@77-99-37-134.cable.ubr04.chap.blueyonder.co.uk) |
| 23:32.50 | Amadeo | imagine how boring it must be to just sit there at BlizzCon while nothing's going on |
| 23:33.07 | art3mis | okay this movie has potential |
| 23:33.13 | Amadeo | You pay the money, fly all the way out there or whatever, and you sit around |
| 23:33.22 | art3mis | Flight of the Living Dead: Outbreak on a Plane |
| 23:33.29 | cncfanatics | who actualy found the 127.0.0.1 url ? |
| 23:33.35 | QD-san | even without my router it doesn't wanna work |
| 23:33.36 | QD-san | ;\ |
| 23:35.01 | RaydenUni | <Amadeo> imagine how boring it must be to just sit there at BlizzCon while nothing's going on <-- yeah i'd hate it. :/ |
| 23:35.12 | cncfanatics | QD, I figured how you can get a connection |
| 23:35.20 | cncfanatics | but it'll take meddling with ettercap to manualy send requests out |
| 23:35.31 | cncfanatics | and then u'll need an app to catch the stream that will be incoming |
| 23:35.31 | QD-san | o_O |
| 23:35.41 | QD-san | wmp11 work? |
| 23:36.10 | cncfanatics | hmmm |
| 23:36.14 | cncfanatics | there are two options |
| 23:36.26 | cncfanatics | you could root all ettercap output to a file, and just read that file |
| 23:36.32 | cncfanatics | but, can u use ettercap ? :p |
| 23:37.33 | QD-san | no idea :P |
| 23:37.38 | cncfanatics | nvm then |
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| 23:38.17 | Thiana- | Is there a function to trim whitespace in lua? |
| 23:38.50 | vhaarr | str:trim() |
| 23:39.01 | QD-san | I'm still not sure why it's not even working for me cncfanatics |
| 23:39.33 | Thiana- | Hmm, must be wow's extension to it vharr. |
| 23:40.15 | cncfanatics | QD-san, neither am I :p |
| 23:40.31 | cncfanatics | vhaarr, does that trim whitespaces at start & end of strings ? |
| 23:40.32 | art3mis | i will say that giga has some nice bandwidth |
| 23:40.34 | vhaarr | Thiana-: we're in #wowace, are we not? |
| 23:40.36 | vhaarr | cncfanatics: yes |
| 23:40.42 | cncfanatics | art3mis |
| 23:40.44 | cncfanatics | it does p2p |
| 23:40.45 | art3mis | to be able to stream this to tons of people |
| 23:40.50 | art3mis | still |
| 23:40.51 | cncfanatics | if ur watching ur sending to someone too |
| 23:40.53 | Thiana- | vhaarr: Yes, but I said lua not wow ;) |
| 23:40.55 | cncfanatics | they dont do shit |
| 23:41.27 | Matrix110 | well they stream with quite alot Mbit aswell |
| 23:41.31 | art3mis | its a fairly decent idea |
| 23:41.38 | Thiana- | vhaarr: v = v:gsub("^%s*(.-)%s*$", "%1") works |
| 23:41.41 | NightHawkAtWork | Oh man, this is awesome.. the official apple paperclip.. http://www.insanelygreattees.com/news/?p=53 |
| 23:41.49 | art3mis | was mucking around with vuze the other day |
| 23:41.49 | cncfanatics | art3mis, its shit u got to use a plugin for it tho |
| 23:41.55 | vhaarr | Thiana-: I know |
| 23:41.58 | art3mis | cnc: yeah thats kind of crap |
| 23:42.03 | art3mis | butthink of it this way |
| 23:42.03 | cncfanatics | QUANTUMDELTA |
| 23:42.11 | cncfanatics | I might know why it doesnt work for you |
| 23:42.17 | art3mis | thier plugin is fine tuned for performance in this respect |
| 23:42.18 | cncfanatics | it uses ur localhost, 127.0.0.1 if u prefer |
| 23:42.22 | vhaarr | Thiana-: just beware the .- selector is dead slow |
| 23:42.29 | cncfanatics | if u got an apache server or similar running it prolly wont work |
| 23:42.33 | cncfanatics | as they'll both be listening |
| 23:42.38 | Thiana- | vhaarr: I know, thats why I was looking for a builtin :) |
| 23:42.48 | cncfanatics | QD-san, got anything like that ? |
| 23:42.52 | cncfanatics | art3mis, I had to disable my apache server tho |
| 23:43.04 | QD-san | hmmmm |
| 23:43.19 | cncfanatics | QD-san, easy way to check, go to a browser |
| 23:43.25 | cncfanatics | and type http://localhost/ |
| 23:43.28 | cncfanatics | what do you see ? :p |
| 23:43.46 | Dustwhisper | Where can I find a list of all the ingame UI textures i can use etc ? |
| 23:43.47 | QD-san | unable to connect |
| 23:43.48 | QD-san | :p |
| 23:44.01 | cncfanatics | thats good |
| 23:44.07 | cncfanatics | ~livestream |
| 23:44.08 | purl | it has been said that livestream is http://giga.de/2/live/free/# or http://127.0.0.1:6498/ms/asf/EPGIGA.giga350/Octoshape?MSWMExt=.asf directly in the player(if octoshape is running) |
| 23:44.09 | Diao | UI textures? |
| 23:44.15 | art3mis | cnc: yeah thts kind of ass |
| 23:44.20 | cncfanatics | try the second url now, http://127.0.0.1:6498/ms/asf/EPGIGA.giga350/Octoshape?MSWMExt=.asf in ur browser |
| 23:44.25 | Diao | think you can import your own |
| 23:44.50 | Dustwhisper | yea but i mean all the ingame ones like Interface\\Buttons\\UI-CheckBox-Up etc |
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| 23:45.06 | QD-san | loads winamp which............. |
| 23:45.12 | cncfanatics | should load the stream |
| 23:45.17 | QD-san | .......hangs on connecting and eventually............... |
| 23:45.32 | QD-san | error syncing to stream |
| 23:45.35 | cncfanatics | heh |
| 23:45.39 | cncfanatics | try in windows media player |
| 23:45.40 | cncfanatics | same url |
| 23:45.54 | QD-san | tells me I don't have the ASF codec (which is absurd) |
| 23:46.16 | Amadeo | SnoozeCon |
| 23:46.29 | cncfanatics | QD-san, go download a codec pack :p |
| 23:46.41 | QD-san | i have .asf's on my hdd that play fine ;\ |
| 23:46.54 | cncfanatics | heh |
| 23:46.56 | QD-san | wmp11 comes with asf in it as base and the only codecs i can find are *older* versions than my current |
| 23:47.02 | QD-san | I have the CCCP :P |
| 23:47.13 | art3mis | www.cole2k.net ;P |
| 23:47.14 | cncfanatics | hmmmmm |
| 23:47.16 | cncfanatics | QD-sab |
| 23:47.19 | art3mis | a better codec pack ;P |
| 23:47.33 | Saladin | What about k-lite? |
| 23:47.35 | Amadeo | nobody uses codec packs anymore! |
| 23:47.39 | Saladin | I do |
| 23:47.41 | Amadeo | just use a player that does it for you |
| 23:47.49 | art3mis | klite is alright too |
| 23:47.50 | cncfanatics | mplayer is lovely for that |
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| 23:48.10 | QD-san | well |
| 23:48.23 | QD-san | cuz I watch quite a few fansubs |
| 23:48.23 | QD-san | :P |
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| 23:49.04 | Dustwhisper | yepp |
| 23:49.08 | Dustwhisper | mplayer is nice for mkv's etc |
| 23:49.14 | Dustwhisper | the old mpclassic is a really robust player |
| 23:49.15 | cncfanatics | oooooooooh |
| 23:49.17 | cncfanatics | ooooooooh |
| 23:49.19 | cncfanatics | ooooooooooooh |
| 23:49.26 | cncfanatics | Q: Warriors used to be the only viable tank. Now bears are even with warriors, sometimes better. Now pallies not so much. Will they be equal? |
| 23:49.26 | cncfanatics | A: AoE tanking is now very good for prot pallies. But there will beimprovement on protection tree such as comparable number of hitpointsas warriors and bears. |
| 23:49.27 | Saladin | aye, and mpclassic comes with klite |
| 23:49.37 | cncfanatics | comparable hitpoints |
| 23:49.39 | cncfanatics | w00000tage |
| 23:49.45 | Saladin | om link |
| 23:49.47 | Saladin | GIVF |
| 23:49.57 | cncfanatics | live blog from blizzcon |
| 23:49.58 | cncfanatics | http://www.wowinsider.com/2007/08/03/liveblogging-the-blizzcon-wow-class-panel/ |
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| 23:50.25 | QD-san | same error |
| 23:50.32 | QD-san | "Codec might not be installedlolol" |
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| 23:52.30 | cncfanatics | QD-san, what player ? |
| 23:52.38 | QD-san | wmp11 |
| 23:52.57 | cncfanatics | http://www.wowinsider.com/2007/08/03/liveblogging-the-blizzcon-wow-class-panel/ |
| 23:52.58 | cncfanatics | try this one |
| 23:53.01 | cncfanatics | has all codecs built in |
| 23:53.45 | Mudkipz | wow |
| 23:53.57 | cncfanatics | ups |
| 23:53.58 | Mudkipz | wowecon has some bad prices |
| 23:53.59 | cncfanatics | wrong url rofl |
| 23:54.09 | QD-san | lol |
| 23:54.35 | QD-san | I have vlc/winamp(latest)/mpc/wmp11 on here |
| 23:54.39 | cncfanatics | QD-san, http://www.softpedia.com/get/Multimedia/Video/Video-Players/MPlayer-for-Windows-Full-Package.shtml |
| 23:55.52 | Amadeo | I didn't think MPlayer had its own codecs |
| 23:57.18 | QD-san | yea it does |
| 23:57.19 | Bruners | you kinda need somekind of codec to play encoded video |
| 23:57.20 | QD-san | installing now |
| 23:58.20 | Amadeo | when is this damn arena starting? this is sick |
| 23:58.26 | cncfanatics | the stream just died |
| 23:58.28 | cncfanatics | anyone else ? |
| 23:58.30 | Amadeo | not here |
| 23:58.31 | Killmore | no |
| 23:59.01 | Amadeo | not missing much though |
| 23:59.02 | Killmore | they are installing the game on the PC, they are searching cd #4 :\ |
| 23:59.08 | Amadeo | lol |
| 23:59.45 | Amadeo | so how did they determine who was going to play at BlizzCon? |
