| 00:00.00 | Pkekyo | I did |
| 00:00.05 | Pkekyo | not because of that though |
| 00:00.08 | Necrathex | same with websites giving an error message, just because my browser identifies as opera :p |
| 00:00.15 | Pkekyo | the new gm let the power go to his head |
| 00:00.22 | Pkekyo | Necrathex: been there, done that |
| 00:00.50 | Necrathex | i refuse to change it though, opera needs to get higher in the browser charts ;) |
| 00:01.00 | Pkekyo | indeed |
| 00:03.22 | Diao | ff ftw |
| 00:03.26 | Pkekyo | I can't believe why people still design websites etc to work with IE instead of FF/Opera etc |
| 00:03.29 | Pkekyo | Diao: no |
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| 00:04.20 | Pkekyo | I'd just let the websites get fuckedup in IE and let people figure out that the sites work perfectly with other web browsers to get'em to use those instead tbh :> |
| 00:04.26 | loonacy | Pkekyo: As someone who designs websites for IE, it's because if you say "I don't think I'll design for IE, i'll design to standards and screw any browser who doesn't comply." then your boss/client gets very angry. |
| 00:04.56 | Pkekyo | loonacy: ofc, I understand that...but it still sucks... |
| 00:04.57 | Dustwhisper| | cause |
| 00:04.59 | Dustwhisper| | IE has the biggest marketshare |
| 00:05.02 | Dustwhisper| | it's suicide not to cater to IE |
| 00:05.25 | Pkekyo | well, force IE out of the market |
| 00:05.46 | Diao | you can't do that |
| 00:05.56 | Diao | countries like south korea |
| 00:06.06 | Diao | have nearly 100% ie usage |
| 00:06.07 | loonacy | I cry every time I make a page, tests fine in FF, tests fine in Opera, tests fine in Safari, tests fine in Konquerer... looks absolutely horrid in IE. |
| 00:06.18 | Diao | all their websites are controlled by MS software |
| 00:06.32 | Diao | MS SQL instead of mysql, asp instead of php, ie instead of ff |
| 00:06.35 | Gnarfoz | then perhaps you should make the page so it works everywhere and not fix it afterwards? :) |
| 00:06.43 | Pkekyo | say...80% of the people using IE does it 'cause they don't know the alternatives...make the sites to standards (fucked in IE, that is), market the decent webbrowsers that utilize standards and you'll see the IE usage rates drop like a fucking rock |
| 00:07.12 | Gnarfoz | you won't see IE usage drop |
| 00:07.13 | Pkekyo | Gnarfoz: it's because IE doesn't comply with standards for interpreting websites...or something like that...I suck at explaining |
| 00:07.18 | Diao | well FF is already pushing up |
| 00:07.26 | Diao | it's at what, 25% of market now? |
| 00:07.26 | Diao | or 30 |
| 00:07.31 | Gnarfoz | way lower |
| 00:07.34 | Pkekyo | Gnarfoz: if given the circumbstances I stated: yes you will |
| 00:07.49 | Diao | 28% in europe |
| 00:07.54 | Diao | 25% global |
| 00:08.16 | Diao | http://mozillalinks.org/wp/2007/06/w3counter-firefox-holds-25-of-browser-market/ |
| 00:08.49 | Diao | not way lower :P |
| 00:09.09 | Pkekyo | and that's only those who identify as firefox... |
| 00:09.17 | mjc | is itemvalue supposed to be useful currently? |
| 00:09.18 | Gnarfoz | firefox identifies as firefox |
| 00:09.35 | zac | Gnarfoz: if it's set to, yes |
| 00:09.40 | Diao | no gnarfoz |
| 00:09.42 | Gnarfoz | I still say way lower, because of one simple reason: those stats are gatherered by pages whose visitors are likely to know about firefox. give me stats for top10 websites |
| 00:09.44 | Diao | user agent client |
| 00:09.52 | Pkekyo | it's set to identify as IE by default, I'd guess |
| 00:09.55 | Gnarfoz | zac: it is set to it, by default |
| 00:09.57 | Diao | you can set it to masque as ie |
| 00:10.06 | mjc | Pkekyo: ti is set to identify as firefox by default |
| 00:10.14 | mjc | opera is set to identify as IE by default |
| 00:10.15 | zac | Gnarfoz: indeed, but there's a lot of capability problems that force people to identify otherwise. |
| 00:10.19 | Gnarfoz | who would set their firefox to identify as IE? that's just stupid |
| 00:10.20 | zac | poor browser identification, for instance |
| 00:10.23 | Gnarfoz | hahaha |
| 00:10.37 | zac | i had to set my camino to identify as firefox for the wow armory page, because it messed up the item hover-overs for some reason |
| 00:10.50 | mjc | any web developer who uses UA string for their sole browser ID method is a fucking asstard |
| 00:10.53 | Pkekyo | Gnarfoz: my bank won't let me use their internet services if identified as Opera... |
| 00:11.00 | Gnarfoz | all this talk about "i'm designing for standards and let the other people figure out by themselves" and "you have to set firefox to identify as IE becaue it won't work otherwise" doesn't quite fit |
| 00:11.06 | mjc | Pkekyo: switch banks, that shit is retarded |
| 00:11.27 | Diao | i use firefox with a UAC of ie |
| 00:11.30 | Diao | on korean websites |
| 00:11.32 | Diao | cause they don't work with ff |
| 00:11.36 | Pkekyo | mjc: I can't afford to switch banks, but it've been on my mind for a long time...problem is...I doubt any of my alternatives are any better... |
| 00:11.38 | mjc | Diao: heh. |
| 00:11.44 | mjc | Pkekyo: investigate it |
| 00:11.46 | Diao | "error: you must be using IE" |
| 00:12.20 | mjc | Diao: have you bitched at their maintainers? |
| 00:12.39 | Gnarfoz | you would have to say "I'm not using korean websites then" to not be hypocritical ^^ |
| 00:12.54 | Necrathex | you can always just edit the site specific preferences to identify as IE for your bank |
| 00:13.15 | loonacy | I know quite a few corporate intranets who "require" IE on their pages, but work fine with FF identifying as IE. |
| 00:13.24 | Pkekyo | Necrathex: probably, but I'm not all that familliar with opera settings yet...I just use it :> |
| 00:13.57 | Necrathex | Pkekyo: right click on the page you're visiting -> Edit site preferences... |
| 00:14.00 | Pkekyo | loonacy: exactly, this applies EVERYWHERE, hence: FF, Opera and other competing browsers will never show as high usage as there truuly is |
| 00:14.09 | Diao | mjc: you can't |
| 00:14.10 | Necrathex | identification is under the Network tab |
| 00:14.24 | Diao | all of south korea uses MS exclusively |
| 00:14.31 | Diao | they don't bother with anything else |
| 00:14.40 | Gnarfoz | don't use their pages then? it's that easy ;D |
| 00:14.50 | Gnarfoz | oh wait, that's not realistic is it? |
| 00:14.57 | Pkekyo | no it's not |
| 00:15.02 | Pkekyo | hence: idenityf as IE |
| 00:15.05 | Gnarfoz | see -> flawed statistics. |
| 00:15.07 | loonacy | I set up my roommate's FF to identify as IE because his corporate web interface wouldn't work otherwise. |
| 00:15.18 | mjc | that shit is ridiculous |
| 00:15.18 | Diao | but that leans toward firefox |
| 00:15.22 | Diao | as having even more users |
| 00:15.26 | mjc | they should change their browser detect to do real detection |
| 00:15.27 | Diao | because of people id'ing as IE :P |
| 00:15.44 | loonacy | And "don't use their page" means he would have to stop working there. |
| 00:16.08 | Pkekyo | Gnarfoz: ofc the statistics are flawed, but not in favour of IE....do you think anyone has IE set to 'Identify as Opera'? hell no... |
| 00:16.19 | Gnarfoz | huh?! |
| 00:16.20 | Pkekyo | alternative browsers have way higher usage rates than what statistics show... |
| 00:16.30 | Gnarfoz | for it to be favourable of IE, OTHER browsers than IE have to be set to identify as IE |
| 00:16.35 | Diao | yes |
| 00:16.36 | Diao | and they do |
| 00:16.37 | Gnarfoz | which is exactly what is going on. |
| 00:16.38 | *** part/#wowace Keya (n=patrick@xdsl-81-173-173-66.netcologne.de) |
| 00:16.38 | Diao | lol |
| 00:16.43 | Pkekyo | Gnarfoz: that's what we're saying |
| 00:16.46 | Diao | yup |
| 00:16.50 | mjc | "If you think you need browser detects, you can be sure you don't know enough about browsers." -quirksmode |
| 00:17.02 | Gnarfoz | no, they are saying: <Pkekyo> Gnarfoz: ofc the statistics are flawed, but not in favour of IE....do you think anyone has IE set to 'Identify as Opera'? hell no... <-- |
| 00:17.19 | Pkekyo | a typo, so what... |
| 00:17.22 | Gnarfoz | ah :p |
| 00:17.32 | mjc | Diao: http://www.quirksmode.org/js/support.html |
| 00:17.33 | Gnarfoz | then it all makes sense now ;D |
| 00:17.36 | Diao | lol |
| 00:17.52 | Pkekyo | english is not my primary language, so I tend to have problems getting expressions right... |
| 00:18.39 | abug | w3counter doesn't seem very transparent about its data |
| 00:19.16 | abug | I don't see a list of sites counted from for instance |
| 00:19.28 | mjc | just for w3schools I think |
| 00:21.43 | Pkekyo | using blizzard's armory comes close to cramp me up in tears every time I use it |
| 00:21.56 | loonacy | Says it's based on data from 5,204 different pages, but doesn't say exactly where. |
| 00:29.32 | Gnarfoz | Pkekyo: not my primary one, either, I know it's not always easy ^^ =) |
| 00:30.25 | Pkekyo | sucks when I don't know how to put expressions from my mother tongue together in english...so goddamn frustrating >.< |
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| 00:33.12 | Amadeo | lol, that set you up for a great mom joke |
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| 00:33.52 | Pkekyo | ...filthy mind... |
| 00:34.24 | Amadeo | I never denied it |
| 00:38.20 | Diao | wow |
| 00:38.24 | Diao | so i'm playing a friend's paladin |
| 00:38.29 | Amadeo | wow |
| 00:38.30 | Diao | who just hit 70 |
| 00:38.33 | Amadeo | oh |
| 00:38.34 | Diao | a mage just 1shotted me |
| 00:38.36 | Diao | in AV |
| 00:38.40 | Diao | 7k pyro |
| 00:38.41 | Amadeo | lol, was it PoM Pyro? |
| 00:38.43 | Diao | she has 6.5k hp |
| 00:38.45 | Diao | :\ |
| 00:38.55 | xyu | in WAU what is the difference between "Install/update marked addons with externals" and "Install/update marked addons" ? |
| 00:38.57 | Amadeo | 7k Pyro is high, that must have been with a damage buff |
| 00:39.32 | Pkekyo | I've tasted alot of 5-7k pyros :< |
| 00:39.32 | Amadeo | I had like 1000+ spell damage on PTR with my premade Mage, and I think I hit like 5500 crits or something |
| 00:39.33 | Diao | with externals means |
| 00:39.37 | Diao | they embed libraries |
| 00:39.38 | Diao | into the addons |
| 00:39.41 | Diao | without means they don't |
| 00:39.43 | xyu | no |
| 00:39.49 | Dustwhisper| | nothing like going into PVP with Arcane power, flask of supreme power and a pom pyro =D |
| 00:39.50 | xyu | there is an option for "with out externals" |
| 00:39.55 | Diao | .. |
| 00:39.57 | Diao | what? |
| 00:40.01 | xyu | let me explain ^^ |
| 00:40.05 | Pkekyo | Diao: he's talking about WAU |
| 00:40.07 | xyu | in WAU there are 3 ways to install addons |
| 00:40.13 | xyu | option one says, with out externals |
| 00:40.17 | Pkekyo | xyu: use install/update without externals |
| 00:40.18 | xyu | option two says with externals |
| 00:40.21 | Diao | uh huh |
| 00:40.25 | xyu | option three says "install / update" |
| 00:40.27 | Diao | oh |
| 00:40.29 | xyu | it doens't say with or with out |
| 00:40.29 | Diao | the third option |
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| 00:40.31 | Diao | is automatic |
| 00:40.32 | Pkekyo | xyu: use install/update without externals |
| 00:40.35 | Diao | it goes by whatever you have |
| 00:40.37 | phirephly | How does one get to the tooltip information for an item in one's bags? |
| 00:40.43 | Diao | like if you have standalone libs |
| 00:40.46 | Diao | it doesn't get the externals |
| 00:40.49 | Diao | if you don't then it does |
| 00:40.50 | xyu | ah ok |
| 00:40.57 | phirephly | I don't want to open the bag and rollover it, I want to be able to access the tooltip data in a mod. |
| 00:41.08 | phirephly | I'm pretty sure that should be possible, but I have no idea how. |
| 00:41.18 | Dustwhisper| | you create it yourself |
| 00:41.23 | Dustwhisper| | grab item info and create the tooltip |
| 00:41.59 | phirephly | Do you mean create an instance of it and it somehow populates with the data that applies? I don't quite understand, yet. |
| 00:42.39 | Pkekyo | phirephly: try have a look at OneView |
| 00:42.51 | Pkekyo | it might have the function you want, maybe it doesn't... |
| 00:42.59 | Pkekyo | can't really tell from the info you've given |
| 00:43.12 | Arrowmaster | phirephly: look at gratuitylib |
| 00:43.17 | xyu | what are KC_items' dependancies? i can't seem to get it to show any items when i'm in game. and my addons menu says that it is not missing any, but i know it is. |
| 00:43.22 | phirephly | <sigh> No one actually documents anything around here, they just code and expect everyone else to wade through the code. |
| 00:43.28 | xyu | KC_auction seems to work fine. |
| 00:43.53 | phirephly | I"ve been all over the wiki and can't find how how to trap the information that exists in the default tooltips. |
| 00:44.51 | Pkekyo | I'm off...g'nite all |
| 00:44.57 | phirephly | I'm trying to build a smarter feeder (not for pets, for ME). I need to check the amount of health a given food item will give dynamically (I don't want to fiddle with "selecting" food). The only place I know that info is is in the tooltips, but I don't know how to get to the tooltips. |
| 00:45.42 | loonacy | phirephly: Probably the best way would be to get the itemlevel. |
| 00:45.51 | Dustwhisper| | why on earth would you carry anything else than the best food? |
| 00:45.53 | Pkekyo | soeh...trying to make an addon that gives you what's closest to the amount of health you've lost? |
| 00:46.31 | phirephly | Because sometimes the "best" food isn't available, or affordable, and you've got a bag full of crap you COULD eat that's ALMOST as good, but you don't want to go hunting for it or put every bit of buzzard balls or pig dicks on your menu bar, you just wanna EAT something. |
| 00:47.06 | Gnarfoz | autobar already does all that, doesn't it? |
| 00:47.12 | Gnarfoz | or is that only for health potions? |
| 00:47.18 | Gnarfoz | (the choose the right one part) |
| 00:47.28 | Pkekyo | Gnarfoz: it selects the last used one afaik |
| 00:47.34 | phirephly | No idea. I was looking earlier and all I got was some snarky bastard telling me not to capitalize ACE. |
| 00:47.43 | Pkekyo | lmao |
| 00:48.03 | Amadeo | That was the Ace2 creator |
| 00:48.07 | Gnarfoz | he might not have had an answer to your question, but he was right ^^ |
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| 00:48.41 | Pkekyo | ~Ace2 |
| 00:48.41 | purl | it has been said that ace2 is twice as superior to you than ace 1! |
| 00:48.49 | Gnarfoz | lol |
| 00:48.54 | Diao | lol |
| 00:48.58 | Pkekyo | Amadeo: who would that be? |
| 00:49.04 | phirephly | Well, at the time, I was only "emphasizing" that I wanted an ACE mod, not a DIFFERENT mod and he mistook my usage for an acronym. Snarky bastard never did contribute anything to the conversation. |
| 00:49.11 | loonacy | phirephly: Another thing you might want to look into is PeriodicTables, it has a lot of food info. |
| 00:49.17 | Pkekyo | ~Aloha |
| 00:49.18 | purl | aloha is, like, In Hawaii they say Aloha, which means both "hello" and "goodbye"...Which just comes to show that if you spend too much time in the sun, you don't know wether you're coming or going! |
| 00:49.36 | Amadeo | phirephly: People contribute when they have something to contribute |
| 00:50.05 | phirephly | I've looked at doing some sort of database, but to keep it dynamic, I'll STILL need to access the tooltips and if I can do that for the database, I don't need it. And "grammar police" isn't my idea of "contributing" to a technical conversation. |
| 00:50.46 | Pkekyo | ^^ |
| 00:51.00 | Pkekyo | grammarwhores tend to cause quite an amount of entertainment on irc :> |
| 00:51.21 | Pkekyo | for some obscure reason |
| 00:51.35 | Pkekyo | I just decided to level cooking 1-375 on my warr 'till the morning |
| 00:51.44 | theoddone33 | that sounds ... |
| 00:51.45 | Wobwork | Spice bread! |
| 00:51.46 | theoddone33 | fun? |
| 00:51.49 | Wobwork | to 50 |
| 00:51.57 | RogueShadow | Fun indeed. |
| 00:51.57 | Wobwork | there's that at least |
| 00:52.03 | loonacy | Pkekyo: That's Grammarwhores. Proper title. |
| 00:52.10 | Wobwork | GrammarWhores? |
| 00:52.13 | Diao | lmao |
| 00:52.22 | theoddone33 | http://www.blizzardguides.com/wow_cooking_guide.html tada! |
| 00:52.26 | Wobwork | maybe you need a (tm) |
| 00:52.39 | Wobwork | I just hit 350 lw last night |
| 00:52.49 | Wobwork | \o/ |
| 00:52.53 | Pkekyo | theoddone33: had it ready ages ago :> |
| 00:52.53 | Wobwork | now comes the hard slog =P |
| 00:52.57 | Pkekyo | gz Wobwork |
| 00:52.59 | theoddone33 | I'm seriously considering dropping LW |
| 00:53.02 | RogueShadow | my hunter hit 225 leatherworking last night, but he's only lvl 26, so he can't get higher than that yet. |
| 00:53.17 | theoddone33 | I'm so pissed at blacksmithing + tailoring vs leatherworking |
| 00:53.32 | Wobwork | I thought about it, but the cobra/clefthide leggings sell really well |
| 00:53.46 | Pkekyo | RogueShadow: I have the same problem with all professions on my mage >.< |
| 00:53.53 | Wobwork | And I've been fairly lucky with the mat drops |
| 00:53.57 | theoddone33 | give me buyable epic patterns that are actually good gear for rogue/druid/shaman/hunter and I'd consider it |
| 00:54.14 | theoddone33 | but no such thing exists... :( |
| 00:54.28 | theoddone33 | the kits are quite nice, though, you're right |
| 00:54.30 | Diao | i wonder |
| 00:54.38 | Diao | if inscription will be able to do other peoples' stuff |
| 00:54.40 | Diao | or your own only |
| 00:54.47 | Wobwork | overpowered =) |
| 00:54.50 | Dustwhisper| | probably both |
| 00:54.56 | Dustwhisper| | as with any profession |
| 00:55.21 | [Liq] | Someone's been farming :-/ http://reputation.mygamesonline.org/?r=Vek'nilash&n=Biofen |
| 00:56.00 | Wobwork | crazy |
| 00:56.11 | theoddone33 | only honored with consortium? |
| 00:56.16 | theoddone33 | that's one of the more useful factions |
| 00:56.30 | Wobwork | Shalfurne doesn't exist on Argent Dawn. |
| 00:56.32 | Wobwork | LIES |
| 00:56.38 | [Liq] | It's EU |
| 00:56.49 | Wobwork | oh |
| 00:56.51 | Wobwork | =( |
| 00:56.52 | Dustwhisper| | honestly not that much |
| 00:56.56 | Dustwhisper| | there is someone with everything exalted |
| 00:57.00 | Dustwhisper| | =D |
| 00:57.06 | [Liq] | not possible |
| 00:57.14 | Dustwhisper| | everything you can as that side/faction |
| 00:57.15 | Wobwork | well everything barring aldor/scryer |
| 00:57.28 | [Liq] | don't forget the pirates ! |
| 00:57.31 | Necrathex | check my guildie: http://reputation.mygamesonline.org/?r=Azjol-Nerub&n=Greuceanu |
| 00:57.39 | Pkekyo | anyone know the pos of a cooking fire in org? |
| 00:57.43 | Wobwork | although, if they had exalted scryer, then went exalted aldor, I'd be impressed =) |
| 00:57.54 | Wobwork | Pkekyo: any of the braziers? |
| 00:58.16 | Pkekyo | Wobwork: one of my ex guildies did...atleast from 10k into revered |
| 00:58.18 | theoddone33 | I'm pretty sure I heard of someone doing that |
| 00:58.23 | theoddone33 | switching exalteds |
| 00:58.31 | theoddone33 | although I really don't understand why |
| 00:58.33 | Dustwhisper| | i went friendly aldor to exalted scryer |
| 00:58.33 | [Liq] | for items? |
| 00:58.34 | Dustwhisper| | was a bitch to grind |
| 00:58.44 | Wobwork | Basilisk eyes? =) |
| 00:59.08 | Dustwhisper| | ye the eyes |
| 00:59.08 | Pkekyo | yeah |
| 00:59.09 | Pkekyo | ahahaha |
| 00:59.09 | Dustwhisper| | no liq |
| 00:59.10 | Pkekyo | fucking eyes |
| 00:59.21 | Dustwhisper| | i picked Aldor because when i chose aldor had the spelldmg enchant |
| 00:59.22 | Wobwork | for the meat and leather |
| 00:59.25 | Dustwhisper| | and they swapped that around over night |
| 00:59.39 | Wobwork | Dustwhisper|: =( |
| 00:59.41 | theoddone33 | how long do you think it would take to go 1-300 cooking with grinding all the mats? |
| 01:00.04 | Pkekyo | I went scryer for slightly better enchants :> |
| 01:00.16 | Wobwork | theoddone33: you don't have the mats so far? |
| 01:00.17 | Dustwhisper| | i kinda regret going scryer |
| 01:00.18 | Dustwhisper| | cause |
| 01:00.23 | Dustwhisper| | the shoulder enchant for dps casters |
| 01:00.29 | Dustwhisper| | turned out to actually be less than aldor for a mage |
| 01:00.30 | Dustwhisper| | tbh |
| 01:00.33 | Dustwhisper| | since spelldmg scales better |
| 01:00.35 | Dustwhisper| | than crit |
| 01:00.40 | Wobwork | =\ |
| 01:00.48 | theoddone33 | I would be starting from 0 cooking and grinding wolves and crap around undercity |
| 01:00.52 | Dustwhisper| | but the bloodgem did me well for a month or so |
| 01:00.53 | theoddone33 | which doesn't sound all that fun |
| 01:01.16 | [Liq] | theoddone33, it takes a day |
| 01:01.27 | [Liq] | go fishing with it too |
| 01:01.28 | Cyrez | theoddone33: It helps to keep your Fishing up and always have the mats for a fire. |
| 01:01.31 | [Liq] | fastest way |
| 01:01.34 | [Liq] | specially with the fish buff |
| 01:01.35 | Cyrez | ^ |
| 01:01.38 | Pkekyo | theoddone33: I'm farming boars outside org instead ;> |
| 01:02.03 | Wobwork | theoddone33: er |
| 01:02.10 | Pkekyo | I have 17 cooking skill now ^^ |
| 01:02.10 | Wobwork | you can get to 50 easy |
| 01:02.21 | Wobwork | go buy flour and make Spice bread |
| 01:02.22 | Cyrez | I've got almost every recipe in the game >=300. ^^ |
| 01:02.30 | Wobwork | you can buy your way to 50 =P |
| 01:02.30 | [Liq] | theoddone33 http://wow-pro.com/node/860 |
| 01:02.37 | Cyrez | Er, <= 300. |
| 01:02.38 | Cyrez | >< |
| 01:02.41 | [Liq] | "The Cooking / Fishing Combo Guide for Alliance players" |
| 01:02.49 | theoddone33 | ah! |
| 01:02.51 | Wobwork | No really |
| 01:02.54 | theoddone33 | ... I'm horde |
| 01:02.54 | Wobwork | SPICE BREAD |
| 01:02.55 | Pkekyo | anyone remember what epic cooking recipie dropped off the coast of feralas pre tbc? |
| 01:03.02 | Wobwork | >< |
| 01:03.04 | Necrathex | lol, this guy is even exalted with whole steamwheedle cartel >< |
| 01:03.12 | Pkekyo | O.o |
| 01:03.14 | [Liq] | who? |
| 01:03.14 | Pkekyo | how?! |
| 01:03.14 | Adys | Pkekyo: wasnt a drop |
| 01:03.17 | Pkekyo | WHY?! |
| 01:03.21 | Pkekyo | Adys: wha? |
| 01:03.22 | theoddone33 | it was part of the sceptor quest |
| 01:03.23 | Necrathex | http://armory.wow-europe.com/character-reputation.xml?r=Azjol-Nerub&n=Greuceanu |
| 01:03.25 | Necrathex | insane.. |
| 01:03.27 | Adys | indeed theoddone33 |
| 01:03.36 | theoddone33 | but BOE, heh |
| 01:03.36 | Cyrez | I'm Friendly with Gadgetzan, that's about it. |
| 01:03.40 | theoddone33 | chimeroak chops |
| 01:04.18 | Pkekyo | still possible to get it? |
| 01:04.37 | theoddone33 | yeah |
| 01:04.41 | theoddone33 | if you do the sceptor quest |
| 01:04.49 | Pkekyo | the one to get razorgore's head? |
| 01:04.52 | theoddone33 | yeah |
| 01:04.56 | durcyn | neutral with ashtongue ogri'la and skyguard, pfeh! |
| 01:04.58 | theoddone33 | I think it's like 2-3 steps past that in the chain |
| 01:05.16 | Wobwork | hm |
| 01:05.17 | Wobwork | aha |
| 01:05.20 | Wobwork | Golden fish sticks |
| 01:05.23 | Pkekyo | I lost razorgore's head by 0.3 DKP >.< |
| 01:05.26 | Wobwork | I've been looking for a healbuff food |
| 01:05.57 | Wobwork | now to grind fishing back up =P |
| 01:06.23 | Necrathex | razorgore's head? |
| 01:06.27 | Pkekyo | aye |
| 01:06.36 | Necrathex | broodlord lashlayer you mean? |
| 01:06.49 | Pkekyo | yeah, probably |
| 01:06.55 | Necrathex | ^^ |
| 01:06.59 | Pkekyo | but if so: who the fuck is razorgore? |
| 01:07.22 | Pkekyo | meh, this weekend gave me a serious -int debuff |
| 01:07.51 | Necrathex | razorgore is first boss in bwl |
| 01:08.12 | Chompers | amazing fight |
| 01:08.13 | Pkekyo | ah |
| 01:08.21 | Pkekyo | the endless wipes must be why I only remember his name xD |
| 01:08.43 | Necrathex | we used to wipe at firemaw lots >< |
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| 01:10.18 | Pkekyo | firemaw? |
| 01:10.44 | Dustwhisper| | firemaw was a fun boss |
| 01:10.50 | Necrathex | first of the 3 drakes |
| 01:10.53 | Dustwhisper| | my old guild never managed to kill timelapse chromaggus |
| 01:10.56 | Dustwhisper| | then i changed guild |
| 01:11.03 | Dustwhisper| | and they prefered timelapse chromaggus =D |
| 01:11.45 | Pkekyo | sadly, my guild didn't get further than broodlord before tbc :< |
| 01:11.49 | Gnarfoz | timelapse is the easiest |
| 01:12.28 | Pkekyo | I was in the same guild for almost two years O.o |
| 01:12.53 | Gnarfoz | that's not uncommon |
| 01:13.01 | Pkekyo | then some swede came along and fucked it all up |
| 01:13.43 | Gnarfoz | I enjoy the comfort of German servers ^^ |
| 01:14.43 | Pkekyo | international servers ftw |
| 01:14.51 | Pkekyo | I'd wish the swedes got their own servers though |
| 01:16.30 | Pkekyo | would make everyday life in azeroth a whole lot less perverted and filthy ^^ |
| 01:17.34 | Wobwork | Where's the fun in that? |
| 01:17.37 | loonacy | ... What's wrong with perverted and filthy? |
| 01:19.01 | Pkekyo | well, when 90% of what you see in guild chat is "geif secks in teh bumbum 2 maek brown BABIES!!!!!!!!!!", it kinda gets out of hand... |
| 01:19.41 | Diao | i really hate how |
| 01:19.50 | Diao | horde has totally given up in the bloodlust battlegroup for av |
| 01:20.03 | Diao | i just spent 25 minutes in an av to get 0 bonus honor because 38 people were afk |
| 01:20.06 | Diao | :| |
| 01:20.16 | Wobwork | >< |
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| 01:20.23 | Pkekyo | xD |
| 01:20.28 | Wobwork | "Did we win?" "Maybe?" "Bah" |
| 01:20.56 | Pkekyo | lmfao |
| 01:21.11 | Pkekyo | we completely demolish alliance in my battlegroup during AV weekends |
| 01:21.41 | Pkekyo | at other times it's about 50/50 chance of rolling AV - Special Olympics Edition... |
| 01:23.34 | Wobwork | Well you know what they say |
| 01:23.52 | Wobwork | When you compete in the special olympics, even if you do come first, you're still... special... |
| 01:24.09 | Diao | lol |
| 01:24.19 | Pkekyo | no |
| 01:24.57 | Pkekyo | proper way to say it imo: |
| 01:24.57 | Pkekyo | Arguing on the internet is like running in the Special Olympics....Even though you win, you're still a retard... |
| 01:25.10 | Wobwork | yes, well I was trying to be a bit more subtle =P |
| 01:25.24 | Pkekyo | subtle sucks...offending people ftw |
| 01:25.47 | Wobwork | if you want to offend people just do it straight out |
| 01:25.49 | Wobwork | eg |
| 01:25.53 | Wobwork | Pkekyo, you're a twatmop |
| 01:26.03 | Pkekyo | a twatmop? O. |
| 01:26.05 | Pkekyo | O.o |
| 01:26.14 | Pkekyo | not sure I'd get offended by that tbh |
| 01:26.14 | Wobwork | fuckbucket? |
| 01:26.32 | Pkekyo | just doesn't do the trick on me.. |
| 01:27.04 | Pkekyo | I'm a hard guy to trigger, and even harder to stop when I'm triggered x) |
| 01:27.47 | Amadeo | What's the best pet to have to level up with as a Hunter going BM? |
| 01:27.51 | Amadeo | I'm 8 :P |
| 01:27.56 | Wobwork | any of them |
| 01:28.05 | Wobwork | but cat =P |
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| 01:28.10 | Wobwork | is probably the easiest |
| 01:28.19 | Wobwork | although... |
| 01:28.21 | Necrathex | monkey > all |
| 01:28.27 | Wobwork | I say go tame the ghostsabre |
| 01:28.33 | Wobwork | just for the hell of it |
| 01:28.41 | Pkekyo | Wobwork: here's how you do a proper insult: |
| 01:28.41 | Pkekyo | When will Jesus bring the pork chops? - This insults all three major religions AND vegetarians! |
| 01:28.42 | Amadeo | you can still get him? the one in uh...the NE place? |
| 01:28.59 | Wobwork | one of my guildies went and tamed it at level 70 >< |
| 01:29.01 | Wobwork | yeah |
| 01:29.08 | Wobwork | and now that cat is level 70 |
| 01:29.11 | Wobwork | (insane) |
| 01:29.13 | Amadeo | wow |
| 01:29.18 | Amadeo | what level do I need to be to get it? |
| 01:29.23 | Wobwork | 25? |
| 01:29.25 | Wobwork | maybe? |
| 01:29.45 | Amadeo | ouch |
| 01:29.46 | Wobwork | check on petopia |
| 01:29.47 | Amadeo | that's high! |
| 01:29.55 | Amadeo | that'll take me like a month |
| 01:29.56 | Amadeo | haha |
| 01:30.00 | Wobwork | Well you -were- considering getting to that point, weren't you? =) |
| 01:30.12 | Wobwork | alliance or horde? |
| 01:30.18 | Amadeo | Horde, but I can travel anywhere ;) |
| 01:30.24 | Wobwork | Fetch yourself a boar |
| 01:30.31 | Wobwork | otherwise, as alliance get a bear |
| 01:30.35 | Wobwork | for the garbage disposal |
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| 01:31.16 | Amadeo | lol |
| 01:31.32 | Wobwork | Bears are great |
| 01:31.37 | Wobwork | they eat just about everything |
| 01:31.47 | Amadeo | I want that Ghostsaber now! |
| 01:31.52 | Wobwork | hehe |
| 01:31.59 | Wobwork | It's a very cool pet |
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| 01:32.24 | Wobwork | If I ever roll another hunter, I'll grab one |
| 01:32.30 | Wobwork | although I don't know what I'll name it |
| 01:32.38 | Arrowmaster | boar charge is imba at low levels |
| 01:32.42 | Wobwork | s'true |
| 01:32.51 | Arrowmaster | so much threat from a charge+growl |
| 01:32.57 | Wobwork | boar charge is imba at high levels =P |
| 01:33.36 | Amadeo | I'll get both! |
| 01:33.48 | Wobwork | wtb more than two stable slots |
| 01:34.20 | Wobwork | also, stable masters should show your pets spawned around them |
| 01:34.23 | Wobwork | sleeping |
| 01:34.40 | Wobwork | You might be the only one that can see them, but it'd be cool |
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| 01:36.57 | Pkekyo | I love playing my brother's hunter :> |
| 01:36.58 | Pkekyo | I always forget to feed his pets, so they run away eventually xD |
| 01:37.11 | Wobwork | evil =P |
| 01:37.30 | Pkekyo | well, he's a dickwad |
| 01:37.50 | Wobwork | You should just flat out abandon them, then =P |
| 01:38.00 | Wobwork | and get level one pets |
| 01:38.04 | Wobwork | to replace them |
| 01:38.07 | Chompers | hope he didn't have the winterspring cat |
| 01:38.22 | Pkekyo | lmfao |
| 01:38.35 | Pkekyo | winterspring cat? |
| 01:38.44 | Wobwork | and train them all with top level resistances and nothing else |
| 01:39.03 | Pkekyo | so far, methinks, I've lost two cats, one bear and one snake |
| 01:39.13 | Chompers | the named mob in winterspring, one of the rare spawns |
| 01:39.49 | Pkekyo | might've been...dunno |
| 01:40.02 | Wobwork | poor broken tooth |
| 01:40.07 | Chompers | white cat, blue eyes? |
| 01:40.13 | Wobwork | I could never have bothered levelling him |
| 01:40.38 | Pkekyo | Chompers: can't remember, been ages since he let me play it xD |
| 01:40.50 | Wobwork | probably for good reason =P |
| 01:41.19 | Pkekyo | can't imagine what that would be... /shrug |
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| 01:41.46 | Pkekyo | he got rather pissed off when I lost his ZG snake xD |
| 01:42.15 | Wobwork | You're such a griefer =P |
| 01:42.25 | Pkekyo | wha? |
| 01:43.22 | Pkekyo | griefer? |
| 01:44.18 | Pkekyo | am I mistaking, or is Silverpine Forest rather Unique in terms of design? |
| 01:44.47 | Wobwork | howso? |
| 01:45.30 | theoddone33 | because it's depressing and has a roaming elite that is 10 levels above the zone? |
| 01:45.37 | Pkekyo | rofl |
| 01:45.51 | Pkekyo | can't think of another zone that looks quite like it... |
| 01:46.06 | theoddone33 | seriously that was a stupid stupid thing |
| 01:46.17 | theoddone33 | 24 elite in a 10-20 zone |
| 01:46.27 | Wobwork | what |
| 01:46.29 | Pkekyo | which one would that be? |
| 01:46.30 | Wobwork | like fel reavers? |
| 01:46.39 | theoddone33 | the roaming son of aurugal |
| 01:46.45 | theoddone33 | not quite like fel reavers |
| 01:47.01 | theoddone33 | because they don't look almost exactly like surrounding mobs and you get plenty of warning when they're coming |
| 01:47.01 | Wobwork | The various sons of Gruul? |
| 01:47.10 | Wobwork | oh I dunno |
| 01:47.16 | Wobwork | I swear those reavers have stealth modes |
| 01:47.27 | theoddone33 | the ground shakes... |
| 01:47.34 | Wobwork | ... sometimes =P |
| 01:47.45 | Pkekyo | x) |
| 01:48.30 | Wobwork | okay |
| 01:48.35 | Wobwork | how about un'goro then? |
| 01:48.59 | Pkekyo | yay, I has 14/60 bear meat |
| 01:49.02 | Wobwork | Those devilsaurs are definttely sneaky bastards |
| 01:49.14 | theoddone33 | it's definitely less fair in a noob zone |
| 01:49.25 | Wobwork | bah |
| 01:49.29 | Wobwork | the repair cost is more =P |
| 01:49.29 | theoddone33 | also level 50 zone bordering tirisfil, what's up with that? |
| 01:49.43 | Wobwork | well you learn at an early age =) |
| 01:50.02 | Wobwork | anything named the Plaguelands can -never- be good =P |
| 01:50.09 | Pkekyo | meh, I'm still traumatized by Un'goro Crater |
| 01:50.28 | Wobwork | I've been running it, trying to get mithril =\ |
| 01:50.34 | Wobwork | NEED MORE MITHRIL |
| 01:51.00 | Wobwork | At least with leatherworking, it's easier to get mats |
| 01:51.13 | theoddone33 | badlands for mithril |
| 01:51.14 | Wobwork | you can just stick to one spot |
| 01:51.27 | Wobwork | I had so much iron from there |
| 01:51.36 | Wobwork | but yeah, I'll try |
| 01:51.37 | Wobwork | ta =) |
| 01:51.54 | theoddone33 | ah I got most of my iron from arathi |
| 01:52.55 | Pkekyo | Hinterlands and Un'goro are definitely the shittiest zones of the game |
| 01:54.21 | theoddone33 | no way |
| 01:54.26 | Pkekyo | jeswai |
| 01:54.35 | theoddone33 | silithus, EPL, blade's edge |
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| 01:54.53 | theoddone33 | molten core |
| 01:54.53 | Pkekyo | I can agree on EPL |
| 01:55.07 | Pkekyo | silithus' problem was all the ganking |
| 01:55.10 | Pkekyo | MC was great fun |
| 01:55.14 | Wobwork | silithus is irritating |
| 01:55.30 | Wobwork | Ashzara is the worst |
| 01:55.31 | Arrowmaster | does anybody know the command to override KTM threat values for the entire raid? |
| 01:55.35 | Wobwork | Not for the mobs |
| 01:55.41 | Wobwork | but for the stupid geography |
| 01:55.50 | mathuin | I am interested in writing an addon to calculate and display the AEP/DAEP/MAEP values as per Shadow Panther's website in the tooltip for gear and weapons. What Ace libraries should I look at to read tooltips and write to them? |
| 01:56.41 | Pkekyo | Wobwork: agreed, aszhara topography was fucking ridiculous |
| 01:57.07 | theoddone33 | yeah there are lots of bad zones |
| 01:57.11 | theoddone33 | desloace, azshara |
| 01:57.21 | theoddone33 | I personally hate felwood although I know a lot of people like it |
| 01:57.40 | Gnarfoz | mathuin: only one that comes to mind right now is TipLib, but I don't know if that's an ace library ^^ |
| 01:57.47 | theoddone33 | burning steppes is bad |
| 01:58.01 | Wobwork | felwood is irritating cause there's only -one- way across it |
| 01:58.02 | mathuin | Someone mentioned TabletLib, but I think that's only one direction (reading from?) |
| 01:58.02 | theoddone33 | there's a mod taht displays AEP btw |
| 01:58.13 | dabujo_ | mathuin: There is an addon called itemvalue that can do aep stuff for you |
| 01:58.14 | mathuin | theoddone33: which one? |
| 01:58.21 | mathuin | Is itemvalue an Ace addon? |
| 01:58.26 | Gagorian | dev.wowace.com down? |
| 01:58.33 | dabujo_ | mathuin: it is |
| 01:58.33 | theoddone33 | it's called JAEP, it doesn't use ace and I'm not sure it's been updated for the TBC version of the calculations |
| 01:58.46 | theoddone33 | so something new would be good |
| 01:59.05 | mathuin | I'll check out ItemValue (and the drDamage set as well) and I appreciate the help! |
| 01:59.06 | dabujo_ | mathuin: http://files.wowace.com/ItemValue/ |
| 01:59.23 | Wobwork | actually, 1k needles is pretty bad |
| 01:59.25 | Pkekyo | Hellfire Peninsula was great though |
| 01:59.26 | Wobwork | at that level |
| 01:59.34 | Wobwork | cause it's so ... wide |
| 01:59.48 | Pkekyo | true |
| 01:59.53 | Pkekyo | but atleast it has some originality |
| 02:00.00 | Wobwork | yea |
| 02:00.08 | Wobwork | I like Nagrand the best =) |
| 02:00.14 | Wobwork | It's really the prettiest |
| 02:00.20 | Pkekyo | yeah, nagrand was awesome |
| 02:00.24 | Wobwork | and most relaxing lighting/colouring to the eye |
| 02:00.34 | mathuin | Out of curiosity, has anyone ever calculated the area of Azeroth? How many acres or whatever? |
| 02:00.43 | Pkekyo | graphically speaking, mulgore and nagrand > all |
| 02:01.08 | Jaxon | Yum, Nagrand |
| 02:01.08 | Jaxon | http://jaxon.ca/pretty.jpeg |
| 02:01.09 | Wobwork | http://potshot.wordpress.com/2007/01/20/gnome-on-the-range-measuring-azeroth-redux/ |
| 02:01.34 | Wobwork | Azeroth would be about 38,000 square miles or 97,000 square kilometers, as marathoners, much less as hikers. |
| 02:02.03 | Pkekyo | O.o |
| 02:02.17 | Pkekyo | tbh, outland sucks |
| 02:02.23 | Pkekyo | too much content on too little landmass |
| 02:02.52 | mathuin | Awesome. Thanks, guys! Have a nice night! |
| 02:03.03 | Pkekyo | too much sci fi shit in outland as well |
| 02:03.30 | Pkekyo | 27/60 bear meat...yay |
| 02:05.05 | Pkekyo | looking forward to northrend :> |
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| 02:05.21 | theoddone33 | hm |
| 02:05.28 | theoddone33 | getting my fishing skill up so I can fish in AV sounds appealing |
| 02:05.33 | Wobwork | hehe |
| 02:05.48 | Diao | 6th game in a row |
| 02:05.50 | Diao | with zero bonus honor |
| 02:05.52 | Diao | waste of 3 hours |
| 02:05.54 | Pkekyo | wtf you gonna fish av for? |
| 02:06.12 | theoddone33 | honor + fish |
| 02:06.36 | Wobwork | You should head up to the tunnel |
| 02:06.38 | Wobwork | and gank |
| 02:07.21 | Diao | ? |
| 02:07.29 | Diao | i can't even get out of the tunnel |
| 02:07.31 | Pkekyo | the drop rate of bear meat from bears is ridiculous |
| 02:07.38 | Dustwhisper| | Can you change the text on a slider (the low/high bs) |
| 02:07.43 | Diao | alliance is camping the entrance |
| 02:07.47 | Wobwork | oh |
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| 02:12.01 | Pkekyo | think blizz will listen to me if I ask them to buff the droprate of bear meat? |
| 02:12.03 | Gnarfoz | are there any fights where melee dps would need arcane resistance? |
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| 02:12.56 | Pkekyo | Gnarfoz: the robot mobs in mech? |
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| 02:13.17 | Gagorian | Only tank :f |
| 02:13.19 | Gngsk | /kick |
| 02:13.23 | Wobwork | what'sername in MC? |
| 02:13.35 | Wobwork | Sethekk halls boss? |
| 02:13.43 | Diao | arcane resist is pointless |
| 02:13.45 | Diao | just dps it down |
| 02:13.46 | Wobwork | Murmur? |
| 02:13.54 | Pkekyo | Gnarfoz: essentially...no! |
| 02:14.06 | Wobwork | Well not yet, anyway =P |
| 02:14.07 | Gnarfoz | k |
| 02:14.14 | Gnarfoz | mechanar farming gives me only crap items |
| 02:14.19 | Gnarfoz | like arcane protection rings oO |
| 02:14.29 | Gagorian | Well we used two arcane stacked tanks on solarian |
| 02:14.33 | Wobwork | I need to farm mech for the rest of my beastlord set |
| 02:14.34 | Gagorian | to soak up the shit |
| 02:14.35 | Gngsk | /disenchant |
| 02:14.40 | Pkekyo | tanking druid in my guild bought heroic badge fire res armor to do one boss in SH heroic xD |
| 02:14.47 | Gagorian | But I think it's changed or something. Haven't been to solarion for a while |
| 02:14.56 | Wobwork | plus abacus |
| 02:14.56 | alb` | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d2OTFf9SH_E |
| 02:14.57 | Gagorian | t5 instances </3 |
| 02:15.00 | alb` | for those of you that missed it |
| 02:15.00 | Gngsk | hasn't changed yet Gagorian |
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| 02:15.14 | Gnarfoz | Gngsk: I'll put it up once on the AH, then disenchant it. good practice, someone just *might* buy it |
| 02:15.20 | Gagorian | Gngsk: 2.2? |
| 02:19.54 | Wobwork | sigh |
| 02:20.01 | Wobwork | I need to get enchanting up to 300 |
| 02:20.08 | Wobwork | so I can disenchant everything |
| 02:25.07 | theoddone33 | well I got to 97 cooking and 73 fishing before I got bored |
| 02:25.09 | theoddone33 | that's not bad I guess |
| 02:26.36 | Jaxon | theoddone33: eventually you'll get from 298 to 299 fishing before you get bored, that skill scales horribly slow. |
| 02:26.50 | theoddone33 | heh |
| 02:27.15 | theoddone33 | I don't know that I actually find it useful |
| 02:27.24 | theoddone33 | that's the worst part |
| 02:27.46 | theoddone33 | but 40 fish is only 10 or so minutes |
| 02:27.55 | theoddone33 | if it saves you on food maybe it's worth it |
| 02:28.36 | Wobwork | warp burgers sell for stupid amounts on my server =\ |
| 02:29.19 | theoddone33 | I enjoy farming less than anything else in the game, so it's probably not a good profession for me :-/ heh |
| 02:29.34 | theoddone33 | at least on the paladin |
| 02:30.20 | Pkekyo | that vid from blizzcon made NO sense to me :< |
| 02:30.37 | Pkekyo | theoddone33: I've been farming bears in silverpine for 1hr >.< |
| 02:30.50 | theoddone33 | should fish instead |
| 02:30.51 | theoddone33 | IMO |
| 02:32.27 | Pkekyo | I fish on my mage instead |
| 02:32.38 | Pkekyo | not gonna level fishing on multiple chars |
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| 02:42.41 | mathuin | So, about that ItemValue... :-) |
| 02:43.08 | mathuin | The wiki page appears to have been a casualty of the Great Oops. Any idea how I make this do AEP? |
| 02:43.56 | mathuin | I'm trying to figure out how to define formulas and the like, but nothing looks pre-defined. |
| 02:46.03 | Roartindon | pastamancer: ping |
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| 03:03.59 | mathuin | "new statset". Got ti. |
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| 03:08.48 | Thrae | http://www.wowbash.com/image-346.html <-- sooo true |
| 03:10.42 | Bruners | Gnarfoz: third boss in the eye needs around 150ish AR |
| 03:10.55 | Gnarfoz | hm |
| 03:10.57 | Gnarfoz | too late :> |
| 03:11.13 | Bruners | just logged on :) |
| 03:11.28 | mathuin | But the new statset isn't saving. |
| 03:11.30 | mathuin | There's no save button. |
| 03:11.37 | mathuin | And switching windows makes the set go back to zero. |
| 03:14.53 | ZealotOnAStick | What's the quickest way to find the item number for something? |
| 03:16.26 | Bruners | wowhead? |
| 03:17.05 | mathuin | ZOMG. One must hit return after entering every individual value. it is to cry. |
| 03:17.33 | Bruners | that isnt to bad |
| 03:19.39 | ZealotOnAStick | I don't see item numbers on wowhead, but maybe I'm not looking in the right place? |
| 03:20.01 | Bruners | in the url of the item |
| 03:21.21 | Bruners | the last numbers of the url is the itemnumber |
| 03:22.07 | Pkekyo | anyone wanna lend me 500g? need some BS plans...will make you the gauntlets for free! |
| 03:22.14 | Pkekyo | xD |
| 03:22.26 | Bruners | what server ? |
| 03:22.50 | Pkekyo | bloodfeather EU |
| 03:23.19 | Bruners | what pattern ? |
| 03:23.26 | Bruners | wrong server anyway :P |
| 03:24.01 | Pkekyo | Gauntlets of the Green Tower |
| 03:25.32 | xlvii | need translation: http://ftw.generation.no/img/haxor.jpg i'm assuming it's swedish. |
| 03:26.15 | mathuin | Huh. This thing says "0.235 average damage = 1 AEP" so I need to put 4.25 in the "average damage" slot, but there isn't one. :-P |
| 03:26.38 | Pkekyo | he's basically saying "I'm a channel op so I can kick people" |
| 03:26.52 | Pkekyo | and yes, swedish |
| 03:26.53 | Kyah2 | that's boring |
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| 03:27.59 | Bruners | xlvii: not work safe! |
| 03:28.19 | Pkekyo | Bruners: wha? |
| 03:28.43 | Mecdemort | does LowHealthFrame exist in different colors, or is there a way to change the color of it temporarily? |
| 03:28.56 | Mecdemort | And does the default bliz UI ever actually call it? |
| 03:29.01 | Bruners | Pkekyo: that image is not safe for work |
| 03:30.11 | Pkekyo | Bruners: howso? |
| 03:31.22 | xlvii | telnet to towel.blinkenlights.nl |
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| 03:32.05 | vputz | Am I understanding my error messages right from SVN and the updater that the wowace SVN is borked at the moment? |
| 03:33.38 | Kemayo | dodga: I'm not denying that you're seeing the problem... but ALS doesn't do any SendWho stuff. It only reacts to /whos being sent. So I'm confused as to what might be causing that. |
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| 03:52.21 | theoddone33 | my theory of farming av without being in av much is something like always click on the lowest running AV instead of first availble |
| 03:52.41 | theoddone33 | by the time you get in it either a win or loss will happen pretty soon |
| 03:53.01 | aen` | acemods have a cooldown count mod? |
| 03:53.19 | theoddone33 | there are a couple I'm sure, one I use/d was called oCD |
| 03:53.48 | Knaledge | who was it that I was talking with about TopScoreFu and CritRecord and DepositBox, etc. etc. |
| 03:54.04 | Knaledge | I know Sole was one |
| 03:54.14 | Mecdemort | wheres that place on the wow site that you can download the FrameXML stuff? |
| 03:55.49 | NM|Xinhuan | (wow website)/ui |
| 03:56.44 | Mecdemort | ah, thanks |
| 03:57.27 | Knaledge | Anyone have an idea as to why Saeris' LootLink might be utilizing upwards of 80%+ CPU time when mousing over an item in my mailbox? |
| 03:57.44 | Knaledge | This only occurs when the tooltip is being displayed when mousing over an item in my inbox (mail) |
| 03:57.52 | NM|Xinhuan | easy knaledge - every time you hover your mouse over it |
| 03:58.06 | NM|Xinhuan | the function inside does a loop from 1 to 40000 and does a GetItemInfo() |
| 03:58.22 | Wobwork | hehe |
| 03:58.25 | NM|Xinhuan | it then finds the matching itemname for the icon you are hovering over |
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| 03:58.31 | NM|Xinhuan | and generates the appropriate tooltip. |
| 03:58.40 | Knaledge | But this doesn't occur anywhere else in-game |
| 03:58.50 | Knaledge | wouldn't that logic apply to any item toltip then? |
| 03:58.50 | NM|Xinhuan | because the mailbox is the only place you can get a direct link |
| 03:58.57 | Knaledge | ah |
| 03:58.58 | NM|Xinhuan | can't* |
| 03:59.02 | Knaledge | Any way to fix that? |
| 03:59.08 | NM|Xinhuan | the mailbox function only returns the name of the item |
| 03:59.08 | Wobwork | not use lootlink? |
| 03:59.10 | Knaledge | Saeris abandoned lootlink so hard |
| 03:59.15 | NM|Xinhuan | yes - the fix is to edit that function |
| 03:59.19 | Knaledge | Right, not using lootlink is an easy one... |
| 03:59.25 | NM|Xinhuan | i'll loadup my file to see what i changed |
| 03:59.27 | Knaledge | but I use Ludwig on my main and LootLink on my bank alt |
| 03:59.30 | Wobwork | occam's razor =) |
| 03:59.58 | Knaledge | Does that fix affect anything else, Xin? |
| 04:00.02 | NM|Xinhuan | no |
| 04:00.18 | Knaledge | Also - would it be possible for you to upload that to Saeris' lootlink page? |
| 04:00.30 | Knaledge | A lot of people have ocmplained about it in one place or the other |
| 04:00.34 | NM|Xinhuan | no - because i am not saeris |
| 04:00.41 | Arrowmaster | umm you can too get an item link from the mailbox |
| 04:00.45 | Wobwork | link a patch? |
| 04:00.46 | Knaledge | ah you can't upload fixes and such? |
| 04:00.53 | Wobwork | Arrowmaster: yeah, that's what I thought |
| 04:00.56 | Wobwork | unless it's next patch |
| 04:01.09 | Wobwork | I could have sworn we got itemlinks in a recent patch |
| 04:01.14 | Knaledge | either way no biggie just think others might appreciate it |
| 04:01.21 | NM|Xinhuan | no, it just means i fixed it on my own end, and never bothered |
| 04:01.23 | NM|Xinhuan | to share it |
| 04:01.30 | Knaledge | but so long as it isnt burning up my Mac Pro's CPU I'm fine |
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| 04:02.45 | NM|Xinhuan | hmm which file did i do the change in... |
| 04:03.38 | Knaledge | oo Also Xin whas the new addon? |
| 04:03.50 | Knaledge | You mentioned that on your bankitems page in a recent comment |
| 04:03.54 | Knaledge | I'm curious |
| 04:04.04 | NM|Xinhuan | it'll be something like WoWEquip |
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| 04:04.27 | NM|Xinhuan | or a ingame ctprofiles-type thing |
| 04:04.46 | Borked|Raider | will my movies get worse quality if i compose the raw fraps clips to the size i wanna use and then clip it all together lator and then just set it to keep orginal size and 100% quality. |
| 04:05.09 | Knaledge | OOO!! |
| 04:05.10 | Borked|Raider | as raw fraps clips are filling my hd |
| 04:05.11 | Knaledge | Really? |
| 04:05.19 | Knaledge | Xin mind if I make a suggestion? |
| 04:05.25 | NM|Xinhuan | ya? |
| 04:05.26 | Knaledge | Not sure if it would fit the scope of it |
| 04:05.28 | Knaledge | OK ok |
| 04:05.36 | Knaledge | I use RatingBuster on my main and on my bank alt |
| 04:05.50 | Pkekyo | ratingbuster ftw! |
| 04:05.50 | Knaledge | on my bank alt, I have nothing equipped... eww.. naked dwarf bla bla bla |
| 04:05.52 | Knaledge | but... |
| 04:06.04 | Knaledge | I buy and trade and store EVERYTHING on my bank alt |
| 04:06.06 | Arrowmaster | not everything is going to work for that idea |
| 04:06.10 | Knaledge | Problem is... |
| 04:06.26 | Knaledge | I want to compare items I am seeing on my bank alt (logged in on him that is) to my main's gear |
| 04:06.31 | Knaledge | so I know what to purchase etc. |
| 04:06.44 | Knaledge | Ideally - RatingBuster with the ability to choose which profile to compare items to in the tooltips |
| 04:07.01 | Knaledge | butm if yours could do that and it;s within the scope of your new addon, I'd try it |
| 04:07.05 | Arrowmaster | you could get it to show the ratings that your main would get from it but you wont be able to get all those other stats that ratingbuster does |
| 04:07.19 | NM|Xinhuan | yes - my addon will have the ability to compare profiles |
| 04:07.33 | Knaledge | ok so if it has the ability to compare profiles |
| 04:07.43 | Knaledge | would that work in conjunction with RatingBuster then? |
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| 04:07.54 | Arrowmaster | hmm well actually i guess you could but you would have to save a lot of the data to the saved vars |
| 04:08.01 | NM|Xinhuan | no - because ratingbuster is ratingbuster |
| 04:08.05 | NM|Xinhuan | and my addon isn't rating buster |
| 04:08.11 | Knaledge | I'd need ratingbuster to be able to see what my main has (essentially via your profile viewer thing) |
| 04:08.19 | Arrowmaster | that will never work |
| 04:08.20 | Knaledge | and compare it off of that |
| 04:08.30 | Knaledge | damned |
| 04:08.31 | Knaledge | ah well |
| 04:08.32 | Arrowmaster | ratingbuster wont do that correctly |
| 04:08.40 | NM|Xinhuan | all my addon does at the moment is allow you to save entire "sets" of gear with enchants/gems included and compare them |
| 04:08.52 | Arrowmaster | because it can only calulate all that stuff for the character your on |
| 04:08.53 | Knaledge | Yeah i know - it's basically going to need to be done via the RatingBuster author |
| 04:08.54 | NM|Xinhuan | ive already added stuff and menus to change items, gems, enchants, etc |
| 04:09.07 | NM|Xinhuan | so its ct-profiles-ish |
| 04:09.08 | Knaledge | Can you export? |
| 04:09.13 | NM|Xinhuan | export? |
| 04:09.14 | Knaledge | like export to file |
| 04:09.22 | NM|Xinhuan | no |
| 04:09.23 | Arrowmaster | Knaledge: the rating buster author would have to rewrite a bunch of stuff to do that, i highly doubt he will |
| 04:09.24 | Knaledge | (etc. etc. to post on a site eventually)? |
| 04:09.27 | NM|Xinhuan | its purely a ingame addon |
| 04:09.30 | NM|Xinhuan | at this point |
| 04:09.34 | NM|Xinhuan | and only works on items in your local cache |
| 04:09.56 | Knaledge | sounds fun :) |
| 04:10.40 | NM|Xinhuan | at the moment, i'm more using it as a "copy target's gear" "save" and i have a snapshot of that guy's gear in my addon, with all the gear's stats added up (like the total Sta, Int, +dmg, +heal, +block rating, etc) |
| 04:10.53 | NM|Xinhuan | although i can save sets of "dream gear setups" too |
| 04:11.07 | NM|Xinhuan | the catch is that the itemlink must be available |
| 04:11.22 | Wobwork | hm |
| 04:11.25 | NM|Xinhuan | so that the tooltip parsing can be done |
| 04:11.31 | Arrowmaster | if you want to do stuff like dodge from agility youll have to calc that on the char then save, you wont be able to calc it later |
| 04:11.31 | NM|Xinhuan | to do the stat adding |
| 04:11.40 | Wobwork | what's the possiblity of an addon that can share itemlinks? |
| 04:11.59 | NM|Xinhuan | yah, that part i haven't figured out how to do yet - but at the moment, it just adds up the stats purely from the gear |
| 04:11.59 | Wobwork | so if your cache is lacking, but your guildie has seen the item... |
| 04:12.06 | NM|Xinhuan | and hasn't taken into account talents/race |
| 04:12.25 | Knaledge | maybe it could use the hidden addon channel |
| 04:12.30 | NM|Xinhuan | you get the link by asking him to link it to you OR use atlasloot or something |
| 04:12.33 | Arrowmaster | Wobwork: all they have to do is link it afaik, even just linking it over the guild addon chan should work |
| 04:12.34 | Knaledge | and have like a broadcast if an item is not found |
| 04:12.46 | NM|Xinhuan | btw just linking an item on a channel isn't enough |
| 04:12.51 | Wobwork | Arrowmaster: yeah, it could make propogation of links much easier |
| 04:13.00 | Wobwork | Do they ahve to click it? |
| 04:13.05 | NM|Xinhuan | the user has to actively click on it, or an addon specifically doing SetHyperlink() |
| 04:13.08 | NM|Xinhuan | to download the link data |
| 04:13.16 | Wobwork | ah, well perfectly doable by the addon itself |
| 04:13.36 | Wobwork | !api SetHyperlink |
| 04:13.37 | ThraeBot | Wobwork: Could not find a relevant page. Perhaps you could be so kind as to create one? http://www.wowwiki.com/API_SetHyperlink |
| 04:13.38 | NM|Xinhuan | its something i will figure out in the future as i go along |
| 04:13.53 | Knaledge | well sounds exciting |
| 04:13.59 | Knaledge | I hope it comes ar along enough to export to a page |
| 04:14.09 | Knaledge | you'd have a even biggre hit on your hands |
| 04:14.13 | Knaledge | that'd fill such a major gao |
| 04:14.17 | Knaledge | *gap |
| 04:14.27 | NM|Xinhuan | i think i have a screenshot somewhere |
| 04:14.30 | NM|Xinhuan | hmm |
| 04:16.09 | NM|Xinhuan | http://home2.pacific.net.sg/~xinhuan/wow/wowequip0.4.jpg |
| 04:16.36 | NM|Xinhuan | i'm on v0.6 atm, so that's fairly old as a screenshot |
| 04:17.19 | NM|Xinhuan | i've hooked it to the dressing room atm actually, so ctrl-clicking a link will send it to both dressing room and wowequip |
| 04:17.48 | Wobwork | useful |
| 04:17.58 | NM|Xinhuan | (yes i have 400 days /played) |
| 04:17.59 | Knaledge | that seems pretty cool |
| 04:18.04 | Knaledge | but curious |
| 04:18.14 | Wobwork | although, there have been times I want to see just the item, and not the item covered by my tabard, in the dressing room =P |
| 04:18.18 | Knaledge | so I could save my main's gear... |
| 04:18.25 | Knaledge | er rather.. |
| 04:18.29 | Knaledge | "dream it up" |
| 04:18.41 | Knaledge | and so... do you provide a way to compare slot vs slot? |
| 04:18.53 | Knaledge | I search my item cache via your addon and then select an item? |
| 04:18.59 | Wobwork | "Chest slot is bigger than neck slot" |
| 04:19.09 | Knaledge | and it compares it to what is in the current slot of the same type? |
| 04:19.14 | NM|Xinhuan | at the moment, it compares the gear in the "wowequip window" vs "currently equipped gear" |
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| 04:19.33 | NM|Xinhuan | i'm implementing profile saving/loading atm |
| 04:19.38 | Knaledge | ah.. so still if I'm a naked dwarf.. I'm going to see massive stat increases etc. |
| 04:19.44 | NM|Xinhuan | so after that is done, then i'll be able to compare profile against profile |
| 04:19.47 | NM|Xinhuan | to compare differences |
| 04:19.58 | NM|Xinhuan | rather than profile against "current equipped" |
| 04:20.04 | Knaledge | so you're saying what I'm looking for is WIP |
| 04:20.10 | Knaledge | as far as, in a round about way |
| 04:20.15 | Knaledge | (which is fine) |
| 04:20.16 | NM|Xinhuan | kind of, yes |
| 04:20.20 | Knaledge | cool :) |
| 04:20.21 | Knaledge | oo |
| 04:20.23 | Knaledge | ok then |
| 04:20.32 | Knaledge | can you have it search if I modifier key + click an item? |
| 04:20.40 | NM|Xinhuan | search what? |
| 04:20.57 | Knaledge | so if I'm on the AH... and I have your addon open and I click on a item in the AH window via a modifier key it will bring up that item in your addon |
| 04:21.08 | NM|Xinhuan | doesn't do that |
| 04:21.14 | Knaledge | would be applicable to items in chat, etc. also I suppose |
| 04:21.23 | Knaledge | ah ok |
| 04:21.30 | NM|Xinhuan | there would be a few million things to hook, i'm not going to do that |
| 04:21.51 | Arrowmaster | boo wheres vharr |
| 04:21.53 | Knaledge | what if it could just paste in the name? |
| 04:21.59 | Knaledge | like Auctioneer does |
| 04:22.08 | NM|Xinhuan | only thing i've hooked is the dressing room |
| 04:22.18 | Wobwork | ~seen vhaar |
| 04:22.24 | purl | i haven't seen 'vhaar', Wobwork |
| 04:22.27 | Wobwork | ~seen vhaarr |
| 04:22.28 | purl | vhaarr <n=folk@9.84-234-132.customer.lyse.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 5h 30m 2s ago, saying: 'bagnon'. |
| 04:22.36 | Arrowmaster | hmm |
| 04:22.42 | Wobwork | why can't he take a normal name |
| 04:22.43 | Wobwork | like Rabbit |
| 04:22.44 | Arrowmaster | was going to link him http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info7399-Violation.html |
| 04:22.47 | Knaledge | I don't know if youd hook anything but Auctioneer if I hae an item in my bag and I want to search for it on the AH, I just modifer key + click on it and it pastes the name of the item into the AH window |
| 04:23.09 | NM|Xinhuan | yes but you realise that its up to individual addon authors to implement that |
| 04:23.50 | Knaledge | I do I just didn't realize it was something that had to be coded |
| 04:23.56 | NM|Xinhuan | meaning if someone writes a Bag Mod, he would have to write that shift+click functionaility manually to put the name of the item in the AH search box |
| 04:24.06 | NM|Xinhuan | for his bag mod |
| 04:24.09 | Knaledge | actually I don't use a bag mod though |
| 04:24.13 | Knaledge | I wonder if it's informant |
| 04:24.18 | NM|Xinhuan | yes - because the base blizzard code does it |
| 04:24.22 | NM|Xinhuan | for their own bags |
| 04:24.23 | Knaledge | ah ok |
| 04:24.57 | Knaledge | well still seems pretty cool |
| 04:25.06 | Knaledge | I'm looking forward to playing around with it |
| 04:25.13 | NM|Xinhuan | anyway for saeris lootlink, go find lootlink_tooltips.lua |
| 04:25.25 | NM|Xinhuan | and find "GameTooltip.SetInboxItem = function(" |
| 04:25.26 | Knaledge | k sec |
| 04:25.40 | NM|Xinhuan | i dont even know what i've changed in the code in that function actually |
| 04:25.54 | NM|Xinhuan | cos i've merely deleted much code, rather than comment it out |
| 04:26.26 | Knaledge | ok its open and now I'm searching |
| 04:26.32 | NM|Xinhuan | but the idea is, i've removed the code that does the 1-40000 loop |
| 04:27.09 | Knaledge | can't find it |
| 04:27.30 | Knaledge | ah ok there it is |
| 04:27.48 | Knaledge | GameTooltip.SetInboxItem = function(self, index) |
| 04:27.50 | Knaledge | self.LootLink_Original_SetInboxItem(self, index); |
| 04:28.10 | NM|Xinhuan | i've pretty much edited that function to look almost like the function just above it (which is SetCraftItem) |
| 04:28.45 | NM|Xinhuan | so i think you can manage it ;p |
| 04:28.57 | Knaledge | well there's also a lot of this local _, quantity = GetInboxItem(index) stuff too |
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| 04:29.16 | Knaledge | then that func ends |
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| 04:29.26 | NM|Xinhuan | do you see a loop? |
| 04:29.31 | NM|Xinhuan | i'm not sure if its there |
| 04:29.41 | Knaledge | I'll jsut paste the entire function, its only like 4 lines |
| 04:29.50 | NM|Xinhuan | maybe i'm looking in the wrong place |
| 04:29.53 | Knaledge | GameTooltip.SetInboxItem = function(self, index) |
| 04:29.55 | Knaledge | self.LootLink_Original_SetInboxItem(self, index); |
| 04:29.57 | Knaledge | |
| 04:29.58 | Knaledge | local _, link = self:GetItem(); |
| 04:29.59 | Knaledge | if (link ~= nil) then |
| 04:30.01 | Knaledge | local _, _, quantity = GetInboxItem(index); |
| 04:30.03 | Knaledge | LootLink:Tooltips_AddAllApplicableInfo(link, self, quantity); |
| 04:30.04 | Knaledge | end |
| 04:30.05 | Knaledge | end |
| 04:30.11 | NM|Xinhuan | hmm |
| 04:30.18 | Knaledge | whereas the one above it |
| 04:30.22 | Knaledge | instead of "index" |
| 04:30.24 | NM|Xinhuan | its ok |
| 04:30.26 | Knaledge | it uses "selectionIndex" |
| 04:30.49 | NM|Xinhuan | i didn't do the change there then hmm |
| 04:31.10 | Knaledge | the problem I'm having with this is that every time I use CTMailMod to grab all items in my inbox |
| 04:31.18 | Knaledge | it lags the hel out of me because of LootLink |
| 04:31.31 | NM|Xinhuan | i know i did a change somewhere - but i forgot where |
| 04:31.38 | Knaledge | didnt suspect LL at first but sure enough, performance fu and CPU profiling helped me narrow it down |
| 04:31.43 | Knaledge | hrm |
| 04:31.53 | Knaledge | and I have all "GameTooltips" off too |
| 04:31.58 | Knaledge | (via Saeris' LL options) |
| 04:32.12 | Knaledge | only one I have enabled is the results tooltip ones |
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| 04:38.32 | Peekayx | Okey |
| 04:38.35 | Peekayx | Here's the Question. |
| 04:38.43 | NM|Xinhuan | ok Knaledge: i found where i made the code change |
| 04:38.53 | NM|Xinhuan | the problem isn't saeris lootlink |
| 04:39.02 | NM|Xinhuan | the problem is located in EnhTooltip which comes with auctioneer |
| 04:39.13 | Peekayx | Is there any Add-Ons out there that can target mobs wby Raid Icons? Is that Possible? |
| 04:39.18 | Arrowmaster | no |
| 04:39.20 | NM|Xinhuan | so you can bash the author of EnhTooltip for your inbox lag |
| 04:39.23 | durcyn | not possible, no |
| 04:39.28 | Peekayx | Meh. Though so |
| 04:40.05 | NM|Xinhuan | Knaledge: go to EnhTooltip\Tooltip.lua |
| 04:40.14 | NM|Xinhuan | and find the line that says |
| 04:40.16 | NM|Xinhuan | function gtHookSetInboxItem(funcArgs, retVal, frame, index) |
| 04:40.56 | NM|Xinhuan | comment out the entire loop that loops from 1 to 30000 |
| 04:41.14 | Knaledge | er ok gimme a sec heh |
| 04:41.23 | Pkekyo | http://furryfury.alasio.net/roster/char.php?name=Warhawk&server=Stormrage THIS is what blizzard's armory should be like... /sigh |
| 04:41.25 | NM|Xinhuan | this has the side effect that your inbox tooltips will no longer generate your auctioneer tooltips |
| 04:41.29 | NM|Xinhuan | but that's where the problem is |
| 04:41.54 | NM|Xinhuan | and its an EnhTooltip fault for using such a crude method |
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| 04:43.49 | Cryect | bwah still no kaelten I see |
| 04:45.02 | Peekayx | I know, I hate Blizzard's Armory, Stupid Flash Player |
| 04:45.11 | Peekayx | It's so laggy and Slow and meh, I don't like it. |
| 04:45.25 | Arrowmaster | NM|Xinhuan: are you sure thats in the newest version of enhtooltip? |
| 04:45.30 | Wobwork | !char us Argent Dawn Shalfurne |
| 04:45.33 | ThraeBot | Wobwork: Shalfurne, Level 70 Night Elf Hunter (41/20/0). 7127 HP; 4618 Mana; 85 mana regen; 4 mp5; 967 AP; 170.5 Melee DPS; 9.67% melee crit; 119 melee hit; 1071 RAP; 243.6 Ranged DPS; 16.27% ranged crit; 119 ranged hit; 9.83% dodge; [[ Link: http://tinyurl.com/yvf8gv ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/37tqod ]] |
| 04:45.38 | NM|Xinhuan | probably not |
| 04:45.45 | Thrae | !help |
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| 04:45.47 | NM|Xinhuan | i haven't used auctioneer for like 5 months |
| 04:45.51 | NM|Xinhuan | nor updated it |
| 04:45.59 | Wobwork | !help !ap |
| 04:45.59 | ThraeBot | !ap <rating> -- Convert Arena rating to points, for all sizes. (Updated as of 2.1.3) |
| 04:46.03 | Wobwork | aha |
| 04:46.08 | Arrowmaster | but you still use enhtooltip? |
| 04:46.11 | NM|Xinhuan | no |
| 04:46.24 | NM|Xinhuan | but the problem is identical to what i experienced |
| 04:46.36 | NM|Xinhuan | so assumably, Enhtooltip hasn't been fixed |
| 04:47.09 | Knaledge | hrm |
| 04:47.12 | NM|Xinhuan | the problem with EnhTooltip is that in its effort to attach a tooltip of info to the inbox item, it does a 1-30000 item loop to find the matching item to generate the tooltip |
| 04:47.18 | Knaledge | let me see if anyone in auc is available to report that to |
| 04:47.19 | NM|Xinhuan | in its hook function |
| 04:47.26 | Knaledge | I suspected EnhTooltip initially |
| 04:47.36 | Knaledge | but performancefu pointed directly at LootLink |
| 04:47.38 | NM|Xinhuan | did commenting it out work Knaledge? |
| 04:47.57 | NM|Xinhuan | yes Knaledge because its a function hook - function hooks always points at the calling function for CPU profiling |
| 04:48.08 | Wobwork | what's wrong with http://www.wowwiki.com/API_GetInboxItemLink? |
| 04:48.13 | Wobwork | btw |
| 04:48.17 | NM|Xinhuan | there's nothing wrong with that Wobwork |
| 04:48.27 | Knaledge | ok I didnt do it yet since I got calledi n to Kara |
| 04:48.32 | Wobwork | just not in the code yet |
| 04:48.34 | NM|Xinhuan | i'm just saying EnhTooltip doesn't use that |
| 04:48.37 | Knaledge | but I will try it after I'm done, which will bee within the next hour or to |
| 04:48.42 | Knaledge | I'll be here still |
| 04:48.49 | NM|Xinhuan | and instead uses a 1-30000 loop naively to find the correct item to generate the tooltip |
| 04:48.58 | NM|Xinhuan | that's why itlags so much on mouseover on inbox items |
| 04:50.17 | NM|Xinhuan | its not a lootlink fault, but because lootlink will inadvertently call EnhTooltip's function hook, all the blame points to lootlink |
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| 05:03.24 | RogueShadow | I stopped using lootlink, used a lot of memory and lagged me also. Linkerator does a big part of what I wanted already, database was nice tho. |
| 05:04.04 | Jagobah | didn't linkerator just stop getting updateS? |
| 05:05.40 | NM|Xinhuan | not using an addon due to memory usage is a bad reason imo. wow barely uses 600 mb ram, and most machines have 1 gb or 2 gb |
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| 05:06.14 | Keias | Ludwig ftw |
| 05:06.46 | Diao | yeah but NM|Xinhuan when your computer gets up to like 150mb of usage on addons |
| 05:06.52 | Diao | and your fps drops by 40 |
| 05:06.58 | Diao | then you know you need to cut back :P |
| 05:07.12 | NM|Xinhuan | addons that use a lot of memory doesn't necessarily use CPU time |
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| 05:07.26 | Diao | theoretically that is true |
| 05:07.29 | Diao | but in practice it isn't |
| 05:07.55 | NM|Xinhuan | how do you reach 140 mb of addons usage anyway? |
| 05:07.55 | Diao | otherwise deleting lootlink and mobinfo2 would not have caused my fps to rise by 20 fps :P |
| 05:08.07 | Diao | lots of database addons |
| 05:08.16 | Diao | i used to use gatherer, lootlink, mobinfo2, auctioneer, etc |
| 05:08.16 | NM|Xinhuan | even with a 59k items database, lootlink barely uses 10 mb |
| 05:08.21 | Diao | eh |
| 05:08.28 | Diao | according to performancefu |
| 05:08.29 | NM|Xinhuan | and that's with full text stored |
| 05:08.34 | Diao | lootlink was using 20mb+ alone |
| 05:08.37 | Diao | with just 47k items |
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| 05:08.50 | Knaledge | my LL uses 12 MB and it's only at 28k |
| 05:09.01 | NM|Xinhuan | my lootlink has 59 items atm, and uses 18.8 mb |
| 05:09.09 | Diao | lol |
| 05:09.12 | NM|Xinhuan | the savedvariable file is 12.7mb heh |
| 05:09.13 | Diao | that's a big difference from 10 ;) |
| 05:09.15 | Knaledge | do you have it on Lite Mode? |
| 05:09.29 | NM|Xinhuan | but i use my lootlink.lua for other reasons as well |
| 05:09.46 | Thrae | Lootlink is the epitomy of huge-ass databases. Even Auctioneer had better compression. But then again, huge-ass databases don't really hurt anything except load time. |
| 05:10.07 | NM|Xinhuan | saeris lootlink already compressed much of the data storage |
| 05:10.20 | NM|Xinhuan | by attempting to store everything in number form rather than text |
| 05:10.33 | NM|Xinhuan | and using number indexes instead of text string indexes |
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| 05:10.51 | Kemayo | Yeah, you might be better off having a huge-ass database instead of something implements its own compression format and uncompresses things on the fly. Depends on your system, of course. |
| 05:10.58 | Diao | ludwig is nice |
| 05:11.03 | Kemayo | I like Ludwig's approach, yes. |
| 05:11.07 | Diao | doesn't use any memory cause it pulls directly from cache :D |
| 05:11.09 | NM|Xinhuan | as it stands, if i disable lootlink, i see no noticable FPS increase |
| 05:11.13 | Knaledge | ludwig is nice |
| 05:11.23 | NM|Xinhuan | so i don't know how you got a 20 fps increase by disabling lootlink ;p |
| 05:11.30 | Diao | well i deleted |
| 05:11.33 | Diao | lootlink gatherer and mobinfo2 |
| 05:11.38 | Diao | cut my UI usage in half |
| 05:11.47 | Diao | and my fps went from like 40 average |
| 05:11.47 | NM|Xinhuan | the culprit would be mobinfo2 then, not lootlink |
| 05:11.48 | Diao | to 60 |
| 05:11.53 | Diao | mobinfo2 doesn't do anything even |
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| 05:12.07 | Diao | i had all the "display on tooltip" options disabled |
| 05:12.14 | Diao | i just used it for the ingame mob database search |
| 05:12.20 | NM|Xinhuan | "disable on tooltip" options doesn't do anything |
| 05:12.31 | NM|Xinhuan | because internally, mobinfo2 does A LOT of data collection |
| 05:12.53 | NM|Xinhuan | even when you don't think you are doing anything, simply mousovering stuff will do data collection |
| 05:13.12 | Diao | doesn't lootlink do the same |
| 05:13.14 | Diao | everytime it detects a new item |
| 05:13.14 | NM|Xinhuan | yep |
| 05:13.17 | NM|Xinhuan | lootlink too |
| 05:13.36 | NM|Xinhuan | but my FPS doesn't have any difference - its like 19 fps increased to 20 fps |
| 05:13.44 | Diao | ah |
| 05:13.48 | Diao | how can you play at 20fps o_O |
| 05:13.58 | NM|Xinhuan | and in shattrath, its like 4 fps increased to 5 |
| 05:14.40 | Cryect | as long as you don't use enchancetooltip :-p |
| 05:14.54 | NM|Xinhuan | enhancetooltip is really bad |
| 05:15.07 | Diao | lol |
| 05:15.20 | Diao | isn't enhtooltip responsible for the auctioneer stuff |
| 05:15.27 | Diao | or can you show auctioneer data without using it |
| 05:15.33 | NM|Xinhuan | you can't |
| 05:15.39 | NM|Xinhuan | auctioneer lists enhtooltip has a dependency |
| 05:15.43 | NM|Xinhuan | as* |
| 05:16.08 | NM|Xinhuan | which in turn lists Stubby as a dependency |
| 05:16.12 | Diao | i need an auctioneer equivalent |
| 05:16.14 | Diao | that uses less memory :( |
| 05:16.21 | Diao | i have it on LoD |
| 05:16.24 | Diao | but once i visit AH |
| 05:16.29 | Diao | my usage jumps by like 20 mb |
| 05:16.29 | Diao | lol |
| 05:16.30 | Cryect | I want auctioneer that uses more memory and has graphs |
| 05:16.45 | Diao | lol |
| 05:16.54 | Cryect | I want more data than it stores |
| 05:17.04 | Diao | you and your graphs |
| 05:17.06 | Cryect | I want to see price fluction over day and weekly basis |
| 05:17.19 | Diao | i think wowecon does something like that |
| 05:17.19 | Cryect | how can you do finacial data without graphs |
| 05:17.26 | Diao | but paying for a site to calculate AH data |
| 05:17.27 | Diao | no thanks |
| 05:17.28 | Funkeh` | Just stop being paranoid, remove auctineer and do what the rest of us do, put it in for 1c less than the cheapest |
| 05:17.28 | Knaledge | Auc 5 shhould be much better |
| 05:17.32 | Knaledge | it's all module supposedly |
| 05:17.35 | Diao | lol |
| 05:17.38 | Jaxon | Diao: Auctioneer uses a bunch of memory because of the data it stores. |
| 05:17.42 | NM|Xinhuan | what Funkeh` said |
| 05:17.45 | NM|Xinhuan | is what i do |
| 05:17.50 | Jaxon | Cryect: you mentioned earlier you use vBagnon, I didn't think that was developed anymore? |
| 05:17.54 | Knaledge | and you can have a mini-auc on main and still poll from the bank alt's database |
| 05:18.06 | Cryect | Jaxon: Its not but its not buggy and works fine |
| 05:18.20 | Jaxon | Ah, I had some outstanding issues with it |
| 05:18.31 | Cryect | I mean just because an addon isn't in development I'm not going to stop using it |
| 05:19.06 | Diao | i know that |
| 05:19.54 | Jaxon | I started using it because I was hoping for more from the way the catergories were implemented. |
| 05:20.28 | Kemayo | Knaledge: I'm definitely interested in auctioneer 5. I just wish they'd hurry up and release some betas. |
| 05:20.30 | Cryect | Sanity2 prolly will offer that when antiarc gets back to it |
| 05:20.45 | Knaledge | @kemayo: I can get you SVN access |
| 05:20.51 | NM|Xinhuan | why do you need graphs and detailed AH prices? |
| 05:20.55 | Knaledge | rather, you might be able to yourself even |
| 05:21.02 | NM|Xinhuan | do you play the AH a lot to earn gold? |
| 05:21.03 | Cryect | price fluctuation is important |
| 05:21.09 | Knaledge | but they've given me the SVN address, etc. |
| 05:21.11 | Wobwork | I'd be all for Auctioneer5 =) |
| 05:21.19 | Knaledge | Auc 5 is supposed to be very very sick |
| 05:21.27 | Knaledge | it's all open so you can make plugins, etc. |
| 05:21.37 | Knaledge | without having to rip apart dependencies, etc. |
| 05:21.37 | Wobwork | I haven't used Auctioneer for ages so it'll be good to see what's up |
| 05:21.43 | Knaledge | and it's all modular |
| 05:21.51 | Knaledge | and if you have a bank alt running full tilt auc5 |
| 05:21.58 | Cryect | Graphs aren't hard to do and storing more timebased data isn't that bad |
| 05:22.02 | Knaledge | you can have a main using a mini-auc5 that polls from that bank alt's data |
| 05:22.09 | Knaledge | so you dont have to load the entire suit on your main |
| 05:22.31 | Kemayo | Knaledge: Wouldn't SVN access be sort of overkill for someone who just wants to play with the beta? :) |
| 05:22.46 | Knaledge | I don;t now - thats what they gave to me to compile the "betas" |
| 05:22.54 | Knaledge | which are actually early milestones at this point |
| 05:23.06 | Knaledge | they have like one sort of functional build |
| 05:23.09 | Knaledge | but it's not p osted |
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| 05:25.09 | Diao | compile o_O? |
| 05:25.31 | Cryect | whats Auc5 add? |
| 05:27.23 | NM|Xinhuan | the main bulk of Auctioneer is still the loaded data though |
| 05:27.30 | NM|Xinhuan | and not the addon itself |
| 05:27.39 | Cryect | of course |
| 05:27.49 | Diao | obviously :P |
| 05:28.04 | Arrowmaster | but static data doesnt effect preformance at all |
| 05:28.07 | Cryect | thats how it should be for addon with a lot of data |
| 05:28.18 | Cryect | Right |
| 05:28.29 | NM|Xinhuan | maybe the data can be saved in compartments |
| 05:28.39 | NM|Xinhuan | and so you only load part of it |
| 05:28.42 | Cryect | People shouldn't be that concerned with memory usage |
| 05:28.57 | Cryect | should be concerned slightly but not to the point they are at the moment |
| 05:33.47 | Garoun|Loupana | bulkmailinbox + selecting cash only mails and hitting take cash or take selected kicks me into a full freeze :( |
| 05:35.10 | pakoz | yo |
| 05:35.28 | pakoz | i need a mod to record my combat log so i can view it in a txt later |
| 05:35.35 | pakoz | anyone got a recommendation |
| 05:35.50 | Knaledge | recap? |
| 05:35.59 | Cryect | ummm /combatlog |
| 05:36.08 | vithos | LoggerHead? |
| 05:36.16 | vithos | if you want automatic /combatlog based on zone |
| 05:36.22 | ccKep | man I dont get it... |
| 05:36.37 | pakoz | i just need to be able to view my combat log in a text file and it needs to have a timestamp |
| 05:36.48 | pakoz | o wow |
| 05:36.55 | ccKep | blizz ChatFrame.lua does SetItemRef(...) when clicked on an item link, now I do the same in my addon, yet Links doesn't behave the same way |
| 05:36.58 | vithos | if you type /combatlog it logs to a file. you don't need an addon |
| 05:37.05 | Jaxon | The UI Panel was them showing how to make a simple addon? |
| 05:37.12 | Gngsk | yep |
| 05:37.12 | pakoz | rofl thx vithos |
| 05:37.19 | Jaxon | That is depressing. |
| 05:38.14 | Kemayo | Garoun|Loupana: Try OpenAll -- it has a "take cash" button -- my SO was having that problem with builmail2, and it went away with openall. |
| 05:38.25 | Bruners | Pkekyo: i can see now that the image has been changed, it used to be that goatse picture |
| 05:41.50 | Garoun|Loupana | k, I'll keep that in mind Kemayo :) |
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| 05:46.51 | Knaledge | I cant remember who it was I was talking with |
| 05:47.00 | Knaledge | but it was about CritRecord and DepositBox |
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| 05:47.34 | Knaledge | Also is there a like.. |
| 05:47.44 | Knaledge | there used to be that mod PlayerStore or something |
| 05:48.09 | Knaledge | and you could have an addon that people would need installed both on the "host" and the "client "(between two players) |
| 05:48.29 | Knaledge | and you could "buy" items from another player without them having to see anything (the person being purchased from) |
| 05:48.42 | Knaledge | people use to use it for handing out pots during raid, etc. |
| 05:48.48 | Knaledge | Is there anything liek that these days? |
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| 05:53.49 | Adirelle | hi there |
| 05:54.05 | Knaledge | sup |
| 05:54.42 | Adirelle | was looking for info about SVN, got an answer in the channel topic :p |
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| 06:03.54 | pakoz | are Tainted Elementals immune to nature? |
| 06:05.30 | Gngsk | prolly |
| 06:08.50 | ramoz | uh |
| 06:08.52 | ramoz | vashj! |
| 06:08.54 | ramoz | that bitch =( |
| 06:09.02 | ramoz | i hate here and she hates our guil |
| 06:09.03 | ramoz | d |
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| 06:26.32 | Roartindon | pakoz: No, they're not |
| 06:26.57 | Roartindon | pakoz: As a mage, I have a lightning capacitor, which deals nature damage, and I've seen it damage the tainted elementals |
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| 06:29.14 | xlvii | any russians in here? |
| 06:29.57 | Wobwork | nyet |
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| 06:51.11 | ckknight | hey all |
| 06:51.18 | vithos | g'morning |
| 06:52.26 | Gngsk | greetings |
| 06:55.19 | ckknight | dev's still down :-( |
| 06:56.08 | *** topic/#wowace by ckknight -> http://www.wowace.com | http://files.wowace.com/ | http://ace.pastey.net | http://www.lua.org | http://wowace.com/wiki/Optimization | WAU2 beta started http://www.wowace.com/wau2/ | Sites back up and the restoration has began | Kael'thas down! Illidan down! SVN down! |
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| 06:57.45 | mathuin | Anyone here use Baggins and notice that the bags don't close when you leave the mailbox? |
| 06:58.52 | Nickenyfiken | I think there's settings for it. |
| 07:00.13 | mathuin | I thought there was too, but nothing's showing on the fubar plugin. Checking CLI. |
| 07:01.04 | mathuin | Nope, nothing in the CLI. |
| 07:02.53 | mathuin | In other news, it's a darned shame Outfitter Updated isn't on the wow-ace site. I like the interface there way better than curse. |
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| 07:30.54 | vithos | ckknight: do you think you could give us as many position options for text in pitbull relative to bars as there are for "Frame"? |
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| 07:32.42 | vithos | ckknight: for example, i have two lines of text on my healthbar, but the text doesn't really line up perfectly because i have to use frame:inside,right |
| 07:33.08 | vithos | instead of say, healthbar:inside,bottomright |
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| 07:35.27 | vithos | ckknight: lagout less :( |
| 07:35.51 | vithos | 02:35 < vithos> ckknight: do you think you could give us as many position options for text in pitbull relative to bars as there are for "Frame"? |
| 07:35.57 | vithos | 02:36 < vithos> ckknight: for example, i have two lines of text on my healthbar, but the text doesn't really line up perfectly because i have to use frame:inside,right |
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| 07:42.02 | cncfanatics | lol vithos |
| 07:42.06 | cncfanatics | think ckk hates you |
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| 07:43.42 | mitch0 | morgen |
| 07:45.46 | Wessller | morgen |
| 07:46.34 | Keya | morgen |
| 07:48.48 | vithos | maybe. but not as much as WoW hates me |
| 07:48.58 | vithos | 13 fatal errors tonight during kael'thas |
| 07:49.42 | Roartindon | vithos: Sounds like the old BWL day problems some of our guild members had |
| 07:50.00 | Wobin | anyone having issues connecting to the svn? |
| 07:50.24 | vithos | Wobin: SVN down, it dropped hot lewtz |
| 07:50.31 | Wobin | Damnit |
| 07:50.35 | Wessller | Topic of the day, says that SVN is down |
| 07:50.47 | Wobin | ah |
| 07:51.03 | Wessller | :-) |
| 07:51.08 | theoddone33 | I want SVN loots |
| 07:51.09 | theoddone33 | :( |
| 07:51.40 | Roartindon | theoddone33: "Essence of KTM"? :P |
| 07:53.01 | vithos | wtf, auctionhouse bell while standing in the shattrath bank? |
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| 07:59.21 | ramoz | Anyone know how to add Trinkets to SCT_SpellReady? |
| 08:01.04 | ramoz | Maybe its time to give parrot a test.. |
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| 08:33.58 | art3mis | well that was fun |
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| 08:34.08 | art3mis | finished baldurs gate 2 |
| 08:34.09 | hermann_348 | http://www.pennergame.de/ref.php?uid=348 klick plx |
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| 08:34.24 | art3mis | now im sad that there wont ever be more |
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| 08:44.18 | kandarz | anyone able to help me figure out a problem with Chronometer, I fixed it so it works with Parser-3.0, but frost traps aren't getting triggered properly |
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| 09:03.05 | evl | kandarz: i'd recommend sorrentimers, a bit more updated! |
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| 09:10.06 | [Ammo]_ | morning |
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| 09:11.03 | nevcairiel | mornin ammo |
| 09:11.10 | [Ammo] | Wacken Open Air was excellent :) |
| 09:11.23 | nevcairiel | not my type of music |
| 09:12.22 | ramoz | anything good this year? |
| 09:13.17 | ramoz | IMMORTAL! |
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| 09:14.16 | ramoz | they're awesome live |
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| 09:17.42 | [Ammo] | I've seen immortal enough |
| 09:18.01 | ramoz | i havn't =( |
| 09:18.07 | ramoz | only one time |
| 09:18.10 | [Ammo] | Destruction kicked ass, In Flames owned, Cannibal Corpse was good as ever |
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| 09:18.23 | ramoz | In Flames? They're nu metal now =( |
| 09:18.49 | [Ammo] | Wacken Open Air requires all bands to play a Best Off Set |
| 09:19.00 | ramoz | sweet |
| 09:19.01 | [Ammo] | which makes it gooooooood |
| 09:19.21 | [Ammo] | hatesphere was cool too |
| 09:20.24 | Keya | i just saw the documentary full metal village |
| 09:20.58 | Keya | & my guild´s MT was at wacken as well |
| 09:21.51 | nevcairiel | i prefer rock am ring or hurricane .. i hope i can make it next year, had too much work this year :/ |
| 09:22.20 | Keya | i prefer the mayday :-) |
| 09:22.24 | dodga | Kemayo: Actually I'm having my doubts if it really was ALS. I had it disabled and got 1 unasked /who reply in 2 AVs, so it might be something else. But I'm baffled. No other addon even has SendWho in their source :o |
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| 09:30.46 | mitch0 | [ammo]: hey! I got a feature request for you. would it be possible that Violation rememberd the show/hide stated of its windows? I kinda like keeping my damage meters hidden, and only check it briefly at end of instance/boss |
| 09:31.20 | [Ammo] | it remembers the state already |
| 09:31.26 | [Ammo] | just click the plugin to show hide em all |
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| 09:35.21 | cryogen | it fails to remember quite a lot, actually |
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| 09:37.09 | [Ammo] | weird |
| 09:37.15 | [Ammo] | something will have broken that then |
| 09:37.27 | [Ammo] | meh svn is down |
| 09:37.42 | cryogen | thats about the best bug report i can provide, sadly :) |
| 09:38.23 | [Ammo] | thats no bug report |
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| 09:38.40 | cryogen | quite |
| 09:38.44 | cryogen | but you'll get over it |
| 09:39.39 | [Ammo] | I just did indeed |
| 09:39.47 | cryogen | then all is well :) |
| 09:43.26 | mitch0 | [ammo]: ok, here's the detailed bug report: I have only one window "open", it shows Damage Done. I can show/hide it with the fubar icon just fine, but if I hide it and relog/reload, it'll be shown again. |
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| 09:55.43 | Borked|Raider | hmm, is it only me who have problem finding the rss link on mmo and the pvp site? |
| 09:57.31 | [Ammo] | mitch0: meh weird |
| 09:57.38 | [Ammo] | but svn no worky |
| 09:57.40 | [Ammo] | so I can't help |
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| 10:28.44 | evl | [Ammo]: Also, would it be possible to have different update frequency depending on what module is in a window? Threat window is updating very infrequent |
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| 11:03.45 | nevcairiel | man they really did answer one of my prayers for the next expansion |
| 11:03.51 | nevcairiel | free damage for healers \o/ |
| 11:06.00 | Matrix110 | where is my free healing spell then? |
| 11:06.10 | MoonWolf | nevcairiel, huh ? |
| 11:06.29 | nevcairiel | Free damage for healers. (much applause) |
| 11:06.30 | nevcairiel | Something that always bothered me was after raids, healers would have to get on their lesser geared alts to solo. A priest in tier 6 should be able to enjoy the other game content without having to switch to an alt. Won't be as good as a mage, but will outdamage a poorly geared rogue if you have higher raid gear. |
| 11:06.51 | Matrix110 | MoonWolf Healers prolly get a healing -> dmg modifier orso |
| 11:06.57 | MoonWolf | interesting |
| 11:07.05 | MoonWolf | do rogues a a damage -> healing modifier |
| 11:07.13 | MoonWolf | i don't get why as a rogue i don't get to heal raids |
| 11:07.14 | nevcairiel | why? |
| 11:07.15 | MoonWolf | its not air. |
| 11:07.18 | MoonWolf | fair* |
| 11:07.21 | Matrix110 | same MoonWolf |
| 11:07.27 | Matrix110 | (mage here though) |
| 11:07.29 | nevcairiel | you have bandages |
| 11:07.30 | nevcairiel | :P |
| 11:07.35 | MoonWolf | you have wands! |
| 11:07.38 | nevcairiel | i dont |
| 11:07.40 | nevcairiel | i am a druid |
| 11:07.51 | MoonWolf | you have kitty form |
| 11:07.52 | Matrix110 | The whole argument is ridiculous WoW is a pure carebear game-.- |
| 11:08.01 | nevcairiel | i think its fair |
| 11:08.08 | nevcairiel | every dps class can go solo just fine |
| 11:08.11 | nevcairiel | healers really cant |
| 11:08.13 | MoonWolf | i must say healing geared kitty form will damage better then my rogue will heal. |
| 11:08.24 | Matrix110 | ofc healers can solo Oo |
| 11:08.29 | Matrix110 | just needs a bit longer |
| 11:08.36 | Matrix110 | thats why you group with a Warrior/Rogue |
| 11:08.53 | nevcairiel | respec, or collect even more gear from crappy 5 mans, because you wont get the raid gear |
| 11:09.16 | Srosh | You can't solo heal any solo content, but solo damage every solo content. |
| 11:09.46 | Matrix110 | in other games healers get PAID to level with people as you can easily make more than 2x the cash/exp as without:P |
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| 11:10.09 | Srosh | Yes, that way would be fine too, but that's not like it's in WoW. |
| 11:10.58 | Srosh | Either make it that neither healer nor DD can solo or so that both can reasonably solo. |
| 11:12.03 | break19 | I would rather they make it so prot wars can solo without making the fights last 15minutes each... |
| 11:12.19 | Srosh | That's the same issue as with healers. |
| 11:13.44 | break19 | we have a 68 tank in our guild.. he's a damn good tank.. but he's spending gobs of cash to respec before every run.. he hasnt really played the war in a while because of it.. he'll prolly be 69 today as he was only 2.5bars away last night when we tried to run slabs with him... we did fine except for the 2nd boss... |
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| 11:14.49 | break19 | we had a beartank join us for blackheart, and once we got past blackheart, he re-joined us, and we made the rest of the instance just fine. |
| 11:15.08 | evl | break19: arms is pretty decent for pve, pvp and some dps |
| 11:15.57 | break19 | evl: yea.. he's thinking of going arms/hybrid until he finally hits 70.. but he's worried it'll reduce his tanking effectiveness.. |
| 11:16.18 | evl | well if you need prot before 70 kara and after that |
| 11:16.25 | break19 | s/arms/arms-prot/ |
| 11:16.27 | evl | you're doing something wrong and/or your healing sucks |
| 11:16.46 | evl | with decent crafted tanking gear you can pretty much tank all the heroics |
| 11:16.47 | evl | in arms |
| 11:16.48 | break19 | evl: dont insult my healer :p |
| 11:16.54 | evl | ofc prot gives you a much bigger margin |
| 11:16.57 | break19 | it also happens to be my wife :) |
| 11:17.12 | break19 | and yea. she's still a "noob" to the resto druid thing.. |
| 11:17.24 | evl | restro druids are good but they have no oh-shit button |
| 11:17.29 | evl | incase of a big crushing |
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| 11:17.58 | break19 | she uses clique, but hasnt gotten it quite set up efficiently for her, yet.. she doesnt have lifebloom bound to anything.. |
| 11:18.31 | Bejitt | i found prot helps a ton in heroics... conc blow is a lifesaver |
| 11:18.33 | break19 | she's still basically spamming regrowth/rejuv and swiftmend. |
| 11:20.17 | Diao | heroics without prot..? |
| 11:20.20 | Diao | never heard of such a thing |
| 11:20.36 | break19 | sad thing is.. I wasnt talking heroics... we're wayyy behind :p |
| 11:21.13 | Necrathex | take a druid tank for heroics tbh |
| 11:21.30 | Diao | i don't think i've ever seen a warrior tank heroics without at least 21 in prot |
| 11:21.34 | break19 | druid tanks are awesome since their dps usually doesnt drop like a prot wars does... |
| 11:23.04 | Diao | that kinda leaves warrs without a spot in heroics |
| 11:23.13 | Diao | unless you're doing runs with friends/guildies who will take a non-cc dps class |
| 11:23.57 | sb | morning |
| 11:24.00 | Pkekyo | Diao: I'm having that problem as_we_speak |
| 11:24.15 | Diao | haha |
| 11:24.18 | Diao | yeah on my warrior |
| 11:24.21 | Diao | i'm going to have to respec prot |
| 11:24.22 | Diao | to do heroics :( |
| 11:24.26 | sb | huh? |
| 11:24.26 | Diao | just to get nethers for deep thunder |
| 11:24.35 | sb | prot for heroics? |
| 11:24.40 | Diao | yes |
| 11:24.50 | Pkekyo | I am prot though |
| 11:24.52 | Diao | i'm currently standard pvp spec |
| 11:25.03 | Pkekyo | <--- 48 points deep in prot |
| 11:25.48 | Pkekyo | it's great if you get a decent group...if you get a special olympics group though, you're fucked no matter how prot specced you are |
| 11:26.15 | break19 | I have a lvl 50 war thats arms/prot hybrid.. he does pretty good with solo'ing.. but not as good as when he was arms/fury :) |
| 11:26.26 | Diao | lol |
| 11:26.31 | Pkekyo | well, can't expect anything else |
| 11:26.39 | Pkekyo | also: reroll dw fury and level the fuck up k. |
| 11:26.43 | Diao | Pkekyo: there's pugs that do prot that are special olympics on your server? |
| 11:26.51 | Diao | i haven't met any really bad pugs on my server yet |
| 11:26.58 | Diao | most people are quite decent actually |
| 11:26.59 | Bejitt | yea i had to respec prot to get heroics done and over with @_@ |
| 11:27.39 | Bejitt | break19: fury is -the- way to go to 70 ;o |
| 11:28.00 | Pkekyo | Diao: last night I got a group where dps was so low, and fucktardness so high that we didn't kill more than first gatewatcher in heroic mech within an hour |
| 11:28.04 | Bejitt | i might be biased, but it's so much faster than arms |
| 11:28.13 | Diao | wow |
| 11:28.13 | Pkekyo | indeed |
| 11:28.14 | Diao | that's pretty bad |
| 11:28.21 | Diao | meh |
| 11:28.22 | Diao | tbh |
| 11:28.27 | Diao | there's almost zero difference |
| 11:28.29 | Pkekyo | you're gonna have jack shit on gankers though :> but the speed of DW fury will make up for it |
| 11:28.31 | Diao | between leveling as fury and as arms |
| 11:28.38 | Diao | as long as you keep your weapons up to date |
| 11:29.00 | Diao | i leveled 2 of my warriors as fury and 1 as arms |
| 11:29.07 | Diao | /played to 60 |
| 11:29.19 | Diao | was basically within 4 hours of each other |
| 11:29.24 | Diao | for all of them |
| 11:29.50 | Diao | ~6 days played in case you're thinking i'm really slow with all specs :P |
| 11:30.14 | cryogen | tbh the fastest levels come with quests |
| 11:30.19 | cryogen | and you can do quests with any spec |
| 11:30.24 | Diao | except prot |
| 11:30.24 | Diao | ;) |
| 11:30.32 | Diao | full prot is just terribly slow |
| 11:30.48 | cryogen | s/spec/dps spec/ |
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| 11:31.01 | Diao | :P |
| 11:31.08 | Pkekyo | Diao: not that slow if you have decent dps gear ;> |
| 11:31.17 | cryogen | its like frost vs fire, affli vs destro, at the end of the day, play what you enjoy its all good :) |
| 11:31.28 | Diao | you leveled as full prot? |
| 11:31.30 | Diao | o_o |
| 11:31.41 | Pkekyo | not all the way, no...did a few levels.. |
| 11:31.46 | Diao | i guess it's not as insane as leveling completely naked |
| 11:31.49 | Diao | but it's pretty bad |
| 11:31.49 | Diao | lol |
| 11:31.58 | Diao | i mean i can understand if you did pure instance grinding or something |
| 11:32.03 | Diao | but regular quests must be a horror as prot |
| 11:32.25 | Diao | i mean |
| 11:32.29 | Pkekyo | it all depends on your dps gear |
| 11:32.32 | Diao | i respec between prot and arms sometimes for instances |
| 11:32.35 | Diao | and.. |
| 11:32.39 | Diao | i can't even stand doing daily quests |
| 11:32.41 | Diao | as prot |
| 11:32.41 | Diao | lol |
| 11:33.07 | Pkekyo | check my warr out on eu armory (baesj, bloodfeather)....with that gear I can still outperform fuckloads of people and mobs even though I'm deep prot |
| 11:33.32 | Grum | bombing x2, escort, getting carts in the mine, killing for those 10 'badges', color-beam-game, wrangling rays |
| 11:33.33 | Diao | what was that one command again |
| 11:33.35 | Diao | i'm too lazy to open ff |
| 11:33.37 | Grum | those are easy to do :) |
| 11:33.45 | Diao | !armory eu bloodfeather baesj |
| 11:33.46 | Diao | or something |
| 11:33.55 | Diao | :( |
| 11:34.04 | Pkekyo | want me to give linkage? |
| 11:34.06 | Grum | that's 7 dailies which are a piss ;) |
| 11:34.17 | Necrathex | who made the quartz addon? |
| 11:34.18 | Diao | nah |
| 11:34.21 | Diao | found it |
| 11:34.25 | Diao | !help !ar |
| 11:34.34 | Necrathex | just tried it for 5minutes now, already love the guy :) |
| 11:34.42 | Mellow_ | is anybody a sysadmin of a linux system with apache2/php5? |
| 11:34.53 | Pkekyo | ~quartz |
| 11:34.53 | purl | well, quartz is a new KWin client written by gallium, or a lot of things |
| 11:35.00 | Pkekyo | KWin? |
| 11:35.03 | Diao | got it |
| 11:35.10 | Diao | !c eu bloodfeather baesj |
| 11:35.13 | ThraeBot | Diao: Baesj, Level 70 Tauren Warrior (8/5/48). 10105 HP; 8080 Armour; 1582 AP; 222.6 Melee DPS; 24.61% melee crit; 102 melee hit; 8.12% dodge; 10.8% block; 46 resilience; [[ Link: http://tinyurl.com/ytatlc ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/2okjqb ]] |
| 11:35.19 | nevcairiel | nymbia made quartz |
| 11:35.39 | Necrathex | Mellow_: i am, sometimes :p |
| 11:35.41 | Diao | 8080 armor in dps gears eh |
| 11:35.58 | Pkekyo | armor is fucking useless anyways ;> |
| 11:36.05 | Diao | nah just saying |
| 11:36.09 | Mellow_ | one of my users wants to have output buffering in php.ini |
| 11:36.10 | Pkekyo | geif armor that works on magic damage plx |
| 11:36.13 | Diao | uhh |
| 11:36.15 | Diao | 102 hit rating |
| 11:36.18 | Diao | with a 2h? |
| 11:36.19 | Diao | O_o |
| 11:36.26 | Pkekyo | used to have 139 |
| 11:36.32 | Diao | isn't that overkill |
| 11:36.41 | Mellow_ | is it safe or really important? or shall i say to the usr shutup and make a real php code? |
| 11:36.58 | Pkekyo | nah...I have 6.47% +hit, all 2h warriors should have atleast +5% |
| 11:37.10 | Diao | yeah |
| 11:37.11 | Pkekyo | not all that overkill since I'm not gemming for +hit |
| 11:37.17 | Diao | i figured 5% was enough |
| 11:37.17 | Diao | lol |
| 11:37.35 | Diao | also... |
| 11:37.38 | Diao | if you do heroics |
| 11:37.43 | Pkekyo | like...I'm not gonna throw some of my armor out 'cause it has more hitrating than I need |
| 11:37.43 | Necrathex | Mellow_: tbh, i'm not really sure what output buffering does for php.. |
| 11:37.44 | Diao | what's your tank gear look like o: |
| 11:37.51 | Diao | cause you could get a bloodlust brooch |
| 11:37.57 | Diao | instead of wearing blackhand's breadth >.> |
| 11:38.15 | Bejitt | gogo hourglass? |
| 11:38.24 | thuz | hourglass is lovely :) |
| 11:38.28 | Pkekyo | haven't been lucky with trinket drops :< |
| 11:38.29 | Diao | yeah but |
| 11:38.31 | Diao | hourglass is a bitch |
| 11:38.33 | Mellow_ | Necrathex:maybe you have already faced with that problem if you sent out something rather than header stuff, and you want t a redirection after |
| 11:38.35 | Bejitt | i need to replace mine >_< |
| 11:38.37 | Diao | i've run BM like 30 times |
| 11:38.41 | Diao | and never seen it drop |
| 11:38.42 | Pkekyo | sec, gonna get on tankinggear and relog |
| 11:38.45 | Bejitt | silly hidden CDs |
| 11:38.52 | Mellow_ | so you already sent out <html> but you need to redirect |
| 11:39.30 | Bejitt | actually, i kinda want that trink from the last boss of heroic BF |
| 11:39.53 | Bejitt | +hit and a use that ignores some amt of armor |
| 11:39.57 | Necrathex | i usually use the redirect code in html |
| 11:40.02 | Diao | lol |
| 11:40.26 | Pkekyo | !c eu bloodfeather baesj |
| 11:40.29 | ThraeBot | Pkekyo: Baesj, Level 70 Tauren Warrior (8/5/48). 10105 HP; 8080 Armour; 1582 AP; 222.6 Melee DPS; 24.61% melee crit; 102 melee hit; 8.12% dodge; 10.8% block; 46 resilience; [[ Link: http://tinyurl.com/ytatlc ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/2okjqb ]] |
| 11:40.37 | Pkekyo | gah, didn't update |
| 11:40.41 | Bejitt | hm |
| 11:40.48 | Pkekyo | how can I force armory to update? |
| 11:40.56 | Saladin | F5 :P |
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| 11:40.57 | Bejitt | is it 'us' for non-eu ? :x |
| 11:41.02 | Diao | yeah |
| 11:41.10 | Bejitt | !c us spirestone junkoism |
| 11:41.13 | ThraeBot | Bejitt: Junkoism, Level 70 Night Elf Warrior (17/44/0). 9414 HP; 8090 Armour; 1551 AP; 202.9 Melee DPS; 31.37% melee crit; 226 melee hit; 7.22% dodge; 5% block; [[ Link: http://tinyurl.com/yqqblh ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/2m3yqg ]] |
| 11:41.14 | Pkekyo | Saladin: not even funny |
| 11:41.19 | Saladin | aw :( |
| 11:41.29 | Diao | wait |
| 11:41.29 | Bejitt | my crop is on >_>; |
| 11:41.31 | Diao | so what trinket is this |
| 11:41.36 | Diao | oh |
| 11:41.38 | Saladin | tried logging out as well Pkekyo? |
| 11:41.40 | Diao | icon of unyielding courage |
| 11:41.47 | Pkekyo | Saladin: just relogged |
| 11:41.48 | Diao | ignore 600 armor for 20s hm |
| 11:41.58 | thuz | !c eu dragonblight thuz |
| 11:42.02 | ThraeBot | thuz: Thuz, Level 70 Undead Rogue (15/41/5). 8064 HP; 1271 AP; 284.4 Melee DPS; 22.92% melee crit; 290 melee hit; 21.46% dodge; [[ Link: http://tinyurl.com/yoqn5n ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/2r5rbu ]] |
| 11:42.03 | Bejitt | http://www.wowhead.com/?item=28121 |
| 11:42.04 | thuz | I am sorry, I just had to try. :> |
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| 11:42.40 | Bejitt | you have more hit than me :'( |
| 11:42.48 | Bejitt | damn rogues >_> |
| 11:42.52 | Diao | lol |
| 11:42.57 | thuz | I also have my farm-gun on, reducing my hit by 14. :p |
| 11:42.57 | Diao | not to mention more hit from talents :P |
| 11:43.02 | thuz | I have 304 |
| 11:43.11 | Bejitt | srsly |
| 11:43.13 | thuz | Diao: Nothing beats the Shaman's talents |
| 11:43.14 | thuz | +9 $ |
| 11:43.18 | thuz | %, i meant |
| 11:43.29 | Bejitt | only +3% for warriors :/ |
| 11:43.36 | Diao | yeah |
| 11:43.38 | Diao | well |
| 11:43.44 | Diao | shaman need that extra hit |
| 11:43.48 | Diao | seeing as their only instant is stormstrike |
| 11:45.07 | Pkekyo | meh, +hit on warriors is underrated |
| 11:45.10 | thuz | Hmm, are there any formulas for how many +weapon skill that equals 1 hitrating? |
| 11:45.29 | Megalon | +25 |
| 11:45.34 | Diao | no |
| 11:45.38 | Diao | they buffed weapon skill |
| 11:45.40 | Bejitt | Pkekyo: i wear fel-leather boots just for hit :( |
| 11:45.50 | Pkekyo | Bejitt: dw fury? |
| 11:45.52 | Bejitt | yea |
| 11:45.55 | Bejitt | pve fury |
| 11:45.56 | Diao | there was a blue post |
| 11:46.14 | Diao | Let's say you increase your weapon skill by 4. |
| 11:46.15 | Diao | Against a mob 3 levels higher than you, you get: 0.8% lower chance to miss, |
| 11:46.15 | Diao | 0,4% lower chance to get dodged, 2,4% to be parried, and a 0,8% higher |
| 11:46.15 | Diao | chance to crit." |
| 11:46.22 | Megalon | http://forums.wow-europe.com/thread.html?topicId=166546791&pageNo=1&sid=1#2 |
| 11:46.24 | Megalon | ;x |
| 11:46.38 | Diao | so each weapon skill is now equivalent to .2 hit, .1 less dodge, .6 less parry, .2 crit |
| 11:46.41 | Diao | :o |
| 11:46.59 | Diao | for boss mobs only though |
| 11:47.04 | Pkekyo | ouh |
| 11:47.12 | Pkekyo | I'm gonna go grab my OEB again then |
| 11:47.38 | Bejitt | lol |
| 11:47.41 | Pkekyo | !c eu ravencrest furion |
| 11:47.44 | ThraeBot | Pkekyo: Furion, Level 70 Human Paladin (41/20/0). 8017 HP; 10413 Mana; 201 mana regen; 115 mp5; 13897 Armour; 72.9 Melee DPS; 3.93% melee crit; 96 spell crit; 180 +spell dmg; 1826 +heal; 3.73% dodge; 5% block; [[ Link: http://tinyurl.com/2chzlw ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/37r8qv ]] |
| 11:47.49 | Pkekyo | :> |
| 11:49.13 | Mellow_ | Necrathex: thanks anyway |
| 11:49.44 | Necrathex | Mellow_: sorry i couldn't be of any help, too much of a noob sysadmin i'm afraid ;) |
| 11:50.07 | Pkekyo | ThraeBot is a great alternative to blizzards armory...that's how it SHOULD be :> |
| 11:50.41 | Pkekyo | Necrathex: aren't all sysadmins? |
| 11:50.49 | Mellow_ | you know im just nervous because why would i change the php.ini only for one user who cant make working php code? |
| 11:51.23 | Necrathex | good thing i'm not doing it for a living :p |
| 11:51.33 | Mellow_ | me neither :) |
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| 11:51.52 | nevcairiel | i didnt pay attention earlier, but whats your issue with php/apache again ? :p |
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| 11:53.02 | Mellow_ | nevcairiel: the real problem |
| 11:53.11 | Mellow_ | when you sent any line except the header stuff in php |
| 11:53.25 | Mellow_ | and you want to redirect like (header('location whatever')) |
| 11:53.27 | nevcairiel | tell him to use output buffering |
| 11:53.31 | Mellow_ | you will get header already sent |
| 11:53.37 | Mellow_ | thats what he asked |
| 11:53.40 | Mellow_ | the question is it safe |
| 11:53.45 | Mellow_ | and is it important? |
| 11:54.00 | Mellow_ | i mean shall i turn this option in php.ini rather than make a better code? |
| 11:54.16 | Mellow_ | i mean okay its working on my machine but not compatible with the others so forth |
| 11:54.18 | nevcairiel | you dont have to turn it on in your php.ini afaik .. just tell him to call ob_start() at the beginning and i think ob_flush() at the end |
| 11:54.23 | nevcairiel | not sure about the actual code |
| 11:54.43 | Mellow_ | sorry im not a coder what is ob_start? |
| 11:54.52 | Mellow_ | when should he apply it? |
| 11:54.56 | nevcairiel | http://www.php.net/manual/en/function.ob-start.php |
| 11:55.02 | nevcairiel | before any output |
| 11:55.20 | nevcairiel | ob_end_flush() was the other command |
| 11:55.23 | nevcairiel | tell him to look at that |
| 11:55.25 | Mellow_ | ah ok |
| 11:55.34 | Mellow_ | so i dont have to enable this option? |
| 11:55.46 | nevcairiel | except its totally disabled |
| 11:55.53 | nevcairiel | but thats not default |
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| 11:56.20 | Mellow_ | it is default |
| 11:56.24 | Mellow_ | output buffering off. |
| 11:56.31 | nevcairiel | yes off |
| 11:56.35 | nevcairiel | but not disabled |
| 11:56.39 | Iceroth | just tell him to use that output buffering in his code |
| 11:56.46 | Mellow_ | ah makes sense |
| 11:57.08 | Iceroth | it's not server admin's problem if someone sends crap, then tries to send header and gets error |
| 11:57.10 | Mellow_ | so ob start will create an object, and when i use obendflush it will send the output? |
| 11:57.11 | nevcairiel | if its on in php.ini, its used automatically without the need for ob_start |
| 11:57.21 | Mellow_ | Iceroth: thats what i asked |
| 11:57.38 | Mellow_ | now i switched it to on on that vhost |
| 11:57.42 | Iceroth | and there's your answer :) |
| 11:57.52 | nevcairiel | just call ob_start() as the first thing in the script, everything is stored internally, and ob_end_flush() as the last thing, everything from that internal buffer is sent to output |
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| 11:58.44 | nevcairiel | (everything except headers, so redirect will work just fine) |
| 11:59.50 | Iceroth | that's generally just a bad idea to render half of the page, realize you didn't want to be on that very page at all and try to do all sorts of stupid things but meh.. |
| 12:00.18 | nevcairiel | you know that, i know that, but what do we care about his page =P |
| 12:00.18 | Mellow_ | cool thanks |
| 12:00.42 | Mellow_ | then ask me, i dont care as well :D |
| 12:01.09 | Iceroth | well, bottom line is, show him those pages from the manual he should have discovered on his own |
| 12:01.59 | nevcairiel | yeah http://www.php.net/manual/en/ref.outcontrol.php should cover everything |
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| 12:04.04 | cncfanatics | yo all ! |
| 12:04.09 | cncfanatics | nevcairiel, how's bt4 going along ? |
| 12:04.21 | nevcairiel | dunno |
| 12:04.32 | Mellow_ | thanks this page is useful for me as well |
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| 12:04.34 | nevcairiel | i have been on vacation till yesterday evening :P |
| 12:05.03 | cncfanatics | :o |
| 12:05.15 | cncfanatics | either way |
| 12:05.21 | cncfanatics | is there a reverse function of GetCursorInfo ? |
| 12:05.29 | cncfanatics | I got a spell name / item name / macro name and want to put it on cursor |
| 12:06.22 | nevcairiel | pickupmacro etc |
| 12:07.11 | Grum | <Mellow_> i mean shall i turn this option in php.ini rather than make a better code? <-- wondering which option you are talking about :) |
| 12:08.32 | Mellow_ | its called output buffering |
| 12:08.38 | Mellow_ | if you referring to php.ini |
| 12:09.38 | Grum | i wonder if you actually need to use a 'flush()' (or similar) if you create a page which fits within the buffer |
| 12:09.44 | cncfanatics | nevcairiel, is bt4 going to use actionslots ? |
| 12:10.00 | Grum | anyhow, i cant really see the use for turning that option on O.o |
| 12:10.03 | Mellow_ | Grum: yep Iceroth already answered that |
| 12:10.39 | Grum | you could tell them to code proper php ofc .. if you want to put on your BOFH-hat :) |
| 12:11.34 | nevcairiel | cncfanatics: probably not |
| 12:12.12 | nevcairiel | well everyone can feel free to actually use the ob_* funcs in their code |
| 12:12.21 | nevcairiel | but turning it on in general .. doesnt make any sense |
| 12:12.35 | Mellow_ | BOFH? |
| 12:12.51 | nevcairiel | bastard operator from hell :P |
| 12:13.08 | Mellow_ | tbh im facing that problem already in my php, and this is a great help for me as well |
| 12:13.27 | Mellow_ | ah so you are talking about me >;( |
| 12:13.29 | Mellow_ | ) |
| 12:14.13 | Grum | nevcairiel: it's like turning on 'register_globals' |
| 12:14.46 | Mellow_ | lol if he will ask that, i will remove his account |
| 12:14.50 | Grum | 'but else my old-(filled with security holes) script won't work and i have to look at that dodgy code again!' .. :'( |
| 12:15.14 | Megalon | :( |
| 12:15.21 | Grum | Mellow_: which problem? 'headers already send'-error? |
| 12:15.21 | nevcairiel | hehe |
| 12:15.30 | nevcairiel | i think he meant register globals |
| 12:15.44 | Grum | i've coded way to much in php and i can tell from experience, unless you are outputting images - you can *always* prevent such things by proper coding :) |
| 12:16.03 | Grum | but still, the best possible thing to do is actually not using php ;) |
| 12:16.39 | Grum | (oh and proper coding means dont abuse ob_* ;)) |
| 12:16.46 | nevcairiel | hehe |
| 12:16.48 | Mellow_ | what do you prefer instead of php? |
| 12:16.56 | Grum | anything else :D |
| 12:17.13 | Mellow_ | ruby? |
| 12:17.27 | nevcairiel | python is getting popular |
| 12:17.35 | Dustwhisper| | the ingame threatmeter etc |
| 12:17.35 | nevcairiel | (again) |
| 12:17.37 | Mellow_ | i know but i dont like python |
| 12:17.39 | Dustwhisper| | will that be northrend or patch? |
| 12:17.45 | Grum | it's the same with those people: error_reporting( E_completely_nothing ); or putting a '@' before *every* function call because 'it said something before that i didn't want to see!' |
| 12:17.52 | nevcairiel | Dustwhisper|: where did you hear that? |
| 12:18.24 | Dustwhisper| | hear what? |
| 12:18.26 | Mellow_ | :DDDD |
| 12:18.30 | Mellow_ | lol grum |
| 12:18.39 | Grum | but it's soo true |
| 12:18.40 | nevcairiel | Dustwhisper|: ingame threatmeter? |
| 12:18.48 | Grum | look at how many people are using eqdkp-package |
| 12:18.52 | Dustwhisper| | here, every single WOW website in the world, panel discussions? |
| 12:19.26 | Grum | i've looked into that source .. and it's like .. *CRY* .. so many places they 'fiddled' to prevent SQL injections, XSS attacks - and still they didn't get it all right :( |
| 12:19.32 | nevcairiel | Hm i mustve missed that |
| 12:19.43 | nevcairiel | but i bet northrend and not before |
| 12:19.58 | Mellow_ | sql injects are protected in default php.ini |
| 12:20.05 | Megalon | :DDDD |
| 12:20.12 | Grum | Mellow_: please take that back before i cry |
| 12:20.19 | Grum | or tell me you were *very* sarcastic :) |
| 12:20.33 | alext | if your looking for one of the websites with the wow panel discussions from blizzcon, www.curse.com has them |
| 12:20.34 | nevcairiel | default php is so unprotected =P |
| 12:20.36 | Megalon | Grum: our guild also used eqdkp... but after i looked at the code once, i made my own dkp |
| 12:20.38 | alext | talks about the "in-game threat meter" |
| 12:20.43 | Mellow_ | nope, as i last check php.ini if you using the variables from post or get |
| 12:20.44 | alext | and all other kinds of craziness |
| 12:20.45 | Mellow_ | it will be scaped |
| 12:20.51 | Mellow_ | e |
| 12:21.06 | Grum | Megalon: yeah i considered it but before you are able to copy the stuff over from their sucky-storage i'd be months upahead |
| 12:21.09 | alext | from the panel though, it looks like they said they would LIKE to implement an in-game threat meter |
| 12:21.12 | Grum | and with raiding every night .. just wasn't worth the pain |
| 12:21.13 | Megalon | gpc_magical_quotes ? ;) |
| 12:21.13 | alext | doesnt mean they will tho |
| 12:21.24 | Mellow_ | yes as i remember |
| 12:21.32 | Mellow_ | it protects some sqlinjects |
| 12:21.37 | Grum | lol |
| 12:21.46 | Megalon | Mellow_: worth nothing if someone knows how to ... |
| 12:21.47 | Grum | ok i'll cry |
| 12:21.55 | Grum | any site which runs with 'magic quotes' should be shot into the face |
| 12:22.04 | cncfanatics | damn svn still down ? |
| 12:22.12 | cncfanatics | Grum, agree |
| 12:22.17 | cncfanatics | same with register globals |
| 12:22.20 | cncfanatics | and a few other things |
| 12:22.22 | Grum | indeed |
| 12:22.48 | Mellow_ | Megalon: i know but better than nothing |
| 12:22.58 | Grum | you can have so much fun putting error_reporting to E_ALL and turning of register_globals, turn off safe_mod, turn off magic_quotes |
| 12:22.59 | Megalon | multibyte characters > magic_quotes |
| 12:23.04 | Grum | and see how fast your boxes get owned |
| 12:23.38 | Mellow_ | you meant turning on register_globals? |
| 12:23.44 | Grum | erm yeah i did :) |
| 12:23.50 | Grum | was just halfway typing it =D |
| 12:23.58 | Mellow_ | :o) |
| 12:24.10 | Grum | somehow my hand thought the 'n' was close to the 'f' O.o |
| 12:24.19 | Megalon | "i need it turned on, else i can't include($fileZ);!!11" |
| 12:24.27 | Grum | oh yes ... |
| 12:24.43 | Grum | &file=http://let.me.own.your.site/mruahha.txt |
| 12:24.49 | Megalon | ;D |
| 12:24.58 | Megalon | most people don't understand the concept |
| 12:25.02 | Megalon | that everything sent by the client |
| 12:25.05 | Megalon | is evil data |
| 12:25.07 | Grum | is TAINTED |
| 12:25.11 | nevcairiel | you shall never ever include a file directly based on input .. someone should write down 10 rules or something |
| 12:25.21 | cncfanatics | lol |
| 12:25.28 | cncfanatics | include files based on output is stupid |
| 12:25.36 | Grum | must be cleansed! .. bleech! .. bleech again! .. in the eyes! .. rub it! .. HARDER .. make it bleed! .. rinse and repeat till it looks clean enough to do anything with |
| 12:25.47 | Megalon | :D |
| 12:26.05 | cncfanatics | anyone has an ETA on when the svn gets back up ? |
| 12:26.08 | cncfanatics | I need some externals -.- |
| 12:26.22 | nevcairiel | i suppose when pastamancer, kaelten or mikk wake up =P |
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| 12:26.28 | Mellow_ | is there any good manual about how to setup your php to be secure for dummies?:D |
| 12:26.43 | Grum | l2code ;) |
| 12:26.53 | Grum | oh .. dont host dummies |
| 12:26.53 | cncfanatics | Mellow_ |
| 12:26.58 | cncfanatics | its rather easy |
| 12:27.02 | cncfanatics | always escape database input |
| 12:27.03 | Mellow_ | rm php.ini? |
| 12:27.06 | cncfanatics | never include files directly |
| 12:27.12 | cncfanatics | (from input) |
| 12:27.18 | cncfanatics | always set error reporting to E_ALL |
| 12:27.20 | Mellow_ | cncfanatics: i didnt ask in php code |
| 12:27.21 | Grum | input is tainted per defact |
| 12:27.22 | cncfanatics | and make sure there's no errors at all |
| 12:27.26 | Mellow_ | i asked in php.ini |
| 12:27.28 | cncfanatics | oh |
| 12:27.35 | nevcairiel | turn safe mode on, disallow remote file include() etc |
| 12:27.37 | cncfanatics | bad code will always be insecure regardless of ur php.ini tbh :p |
| 12:27.39 | Grum | Mellow_: use: 'no_nub_php_coders_allowed=1' |
| 12:27.40 | nevcairiel | apply suhosin patch |
| 12:27.46 | Mellow_ | Grum: :D |
| 12:27.53 | Mellow_ | thats not a real option :( |
| 12:27.59 | Mellow_ | im not the boss, im the sysadmin |
| 12:28.13 | Grum | and 'that_means_no_packages_coded_by_nub_php_coders_as_well=1' |
| 12:28.15 | Mellow_ | they say he needs a homepage!!! |
| 12:29.09 | Mellow_ | cncfanatics: i agree, but you could have a firewall unconfigured, and configured why would you not configure it? |
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| 12:30.27 | nevcairiel | as a sysadmin, your goal is to protect the system |
| 12:30.31 | nevcairiel | not the clients database |
| 12:31.01 | nevcairiel | if he codes insecure, his issue :P |
| 12:31.07 | Grum | http://www.hardened-php.net/suhosin.127.html <-- actually looking quite nice |
| 12:31.43 | Grum | Mellow_: best way for a sysadmin is working with virtual machines and hourly backups :D |
| 12:31.58 | Grum | so they cant fuck up anything beyond the machine if the 'box' gets owned by some nub-code |
| 12:32.24 | Grum | and the backups so they wont loose their crap after someone decides 'oh its a virtual box - well lets delete!' |
| 12:32.30 | Grum | and run apache with root .. =D |
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| 12:33.19 | Grum | (so their VM's will get owned daily and they might be persuaded to fix their code) |
| 12:33.31 | Mellow_ | chroot |
| 12:33.33 | Mellow_ | or a real vm? |
| 12:33.53 | Grum | real vm is more work to set up but less work for you to maintain :) |
| 12:34.01 | Mellow_ | xen? |
| 12:34.08 | Grum | not sure how easily you can prevent 'stepping out of a chroot' |
| 12:34.17 | Grum | but chroot itself should be 'good' as well |
| 12:34.22 | Mellow_ | me neither |
| 12:34.37 | Grum | you can just sit back and relax |
| 12:34.49 | Grum | and have some kinda of form where people can 'request backup restore' ;D |
| 12:35.28 | Iceroth | yeah i can imagine ppl shutting themselves out with fancy iptables rules :p |
| 12:35.34 | Grum | and just laugh at all the hacks you see happening and you could start offering a service where you trash someones software (find a hole and kill it) and then ask load of money to 'fix their code' =D |
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| 12:36.21 | Grum | there are so many holes which are deemed 'secure' because people dont know about it ... right .. with enough poking you will even find those :) |
| 12:36.40 | Grum | security through obscurity doesn't work well ;) |
| 12:37.03 | Mech0z | http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/full8280.jpg anyone know what mod makes you have the questlog shown this way? Not the lightheaded part just how to get my questlog shown with 2 pages |
| 12:37.33 | Livid | looks like extended questlog i think |
| 12:37.45 | Iceroth | double wide |
| 12:37.47 | Livid | or something similar |
| 12:37.48 | Iceroth | from wowi |
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| 12:38.15 | Iceroth | http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info6887-DoubleWide.html |
| 12:39.18 | Grum | nQuest++ :) |
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| 12:40.06 | Mech0z | nice thanks :) |
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| 12:50.25 | ramoz | wtb svn |
| 12:50.30 | ramoz | the recount bug is driving me nuts |
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| 12:51.03 | Dustwhisper| | what bug ? |
| 12:53.05 | ramoz | FindOwner thing |
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| 12:57.24 | Keya | ramoz: someone said yesterday it was fixed already but waiting for the SVN to be back up |
| 12:57.34 | ramoz | yes, i know |
| 12:57.45 | ramoz | thats why i said [14:50:24] < ramoz> wtb svn |
| 12:58.10 | Keya | it's to hot here. I'm not thinking straight :D |
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| 12:59.31 | ramoz | :) |
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| 13:01.33 | lapalapa | svn still down =( |
| 13:02.59 | vhaarr | ~seen mikk |
| 13:03.02 | purl | mikk <n=opera@81-233-236-26-no19.tbcn.telia.com> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 8d 1h 9m 30s ago, saying: 'wow bootloader .. muaha'. |
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| 13:06.24 | nevcairiel | ~seen Kaelten |
| 13:06.25 | purl | kaelten <n=chatzill@adsl-206-171-73-42.dsl.lsan03.pacbell.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 1d 14h 57m 48s ago, saying: 'have fun with the info :)'. |
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| 13:10.13 | cncfanatics | when will svn be back up ? |
| 13:10.16 | cncfanatics | WTB SNV |
| 13:10.18 | cncfanatics | SVN* -.- |
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| 13:11.22 | nevcairiel | when one of those admins wake up =P |
| 13:12.18 | vhaarr | mikk is due back tbh |
| 13:12.23 | vhaarr | been gone long enough |
| 13:12.24 | vhaarr | :P |
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| 13:15.28 | cncfanatics | vhaarr, ur an admin, fix it ! :p |
| 13:15.40 | vhaarr | I'm not |
| 13:15.50 | cncfanatics | u got a little star next to ur name :p |
| 13:16.01 | nevcairiel | its a snake, not a star! |
| 13:16.33 | nevcairiel | or a snail even |
| 13:16.58 | cncfanatics | hmmmm |
| 13:17.06 | cncfanatics | does setting a button's Icon belong in the action or the layout module |
| 13:17.26 | nevcairiel | depends if you use it from anywhere else except the action thing |
| 13:17.27 | Dustwhisper| | Can you somehow change the text on a slider? (The low/high text crap) |
| 13:18.15 | Amadeo | nevcairiel just called himself a snake! |
| 13:18.26 | nevcairiel | i did? |
| 13:19.34 | cncfanatics | hmmm, how can one find a spell's texture knowing its name ? |
| 13:19.40 | cncfanatics | babble-spell ? |
| 13:19.52 | nevcairiel | scan the spellbook, or if its not from that player |
| 13:19.55 | Elkano | bs should work, yes |
| 13:19.55 | nevcairiel | babble spell |
| 13:20.08 | cncfanatics | babble-spell would also take less cpu then scanning I guess :) |
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| 13:20.17 | cncfanatics | or actualy |
| 13:20.23 | cncfanatics | I have the spell's spellbook id |
| 13:20.26 | cncfanatics | might as well use that |
| 13:20.46 | haste | remember that it changes based on what spells you have etc |
| 13:20.57 | cncfanatics | hmmm |
| 13:21.06 | nevcairiel | i read a thread about static spell ids on the forums |
| 13:21.06 | cncfanatics | it might mess up the textures if someone learns a spell then |
| 13:21.11 | nevcairiel | its planned or something |
| 13:21.15 | cncfanatics | that would be great |
| 13:21.20 | cncfanatics | but in the meantime, they arent |
| 13:21.28 | nevcairiel | well refresh all textures when he learns a spell |
| 13:21.33 | nevcairiel | its not like it happens all the time |
| 13:21.34 | cncfanatics | yea will do that |
| 13:21.41 | cncfanatics | what event gets triggered ? |
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| 13:21.52 | Elkano | ok... brainstorming for redesigning InventoryLibs sharing of valid (aka linksafe) items. broadcast to GUILD and GROUP seems to be a bad idea :/ |
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| 13:25.50 | [dRaCo] | that'd mean lots of traffic, wouldnt it? |
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| 13:29.04 | Elkano | well, I remeber the baseid of every item seen via API/chat this session since they are linksafe (GetItemInfo is not considered API in that case). so I can end up with a list of a few thousand ids per client using the addon and I want to sync them between all clients |
| 13:29.40 | [dRaCo] | so you have to broadcast 'em |
| 13:29.43 | Elkano | currently I broadcast a list of 5 ids per second/client |
| 13:30.03 | Elkano | but this leads to also spamming those that don't run the addon |
| 13:30.37 | cncfanatics | GetSpellTexture(spellName | spellID, bookType) |
| 13:30.38 | cncfanatics | LOVELY |
| 13:30.43 | cncfanatics | GetSpellTexture can take a spell name |
| 13:30.45 | Elkano | but a p2p approach would increase the outgoing traffic of a client using the addon as the number of users increases |
| 13:30.45 | cncfanatics | how damn imba |
| 13:31.08 | [dRaCo] | how exactly do addon channels work? |
| 13:31.37 | [dRaCo] | only guild/raid/party? |
| 13:31.41 | Elkano | I think similar to the normal chat channels |
| 13:32.06 | Elkano | whisper, group (party, raid, battleground) and guild |
| 13:33.52 | [dRaCo] | then broadcast over those channels (except bg) would get rid of the spam for non-users |
| 13:34.05 | Grum | Elkano: if i read back can i assume it's not possible to 'harvest' possible itemids from the server without risk of disconnection? :) |
| 13:34.22 | Wogroipl | is it possible to disable /rw spamming when closinf bids in DKPMon? |
| 13:34.26 | Elkano | no, they are still "spammed" meaning the client is having the data sent |
| 13:34.27 | Amadeo | ok, I'm confused...I made a Hunter, I got to level 10, I trained, and I don't see a Feed Pet ability anymore...so where is it? |
| 13:34.34 | [dRaCo] | grum: it isnt. |
| 13:34.43 | mitch0 | cncfanatics: LEARNED_SPELL_IN_TAB |
| 13:34.45 | Grum | [dRaCo]: then i wonder why sharing of data is needed |
| 13:35.07 | Grum | because you can just 'datamine' the server for 30 minutes and get all possible items the server allows you to see in your client-cache as well |
| 13:35.10 | Elkano | Grum: as soon as you query an invalid item you'll be disconnected. and even items in your cache can be considered invalid by the server |
| 13:35.13 | [dRaCo] | you cant datamine |
| 13:35.35 | Elkano | Amadeo, do your two hunter pet quest chains |
| 13:35.43 | Iceroth | so what's up with dev and svn.wowace.com? |
| 13:35.55 | Grum | does this mean that you need to clear your wdb every 'server reset' just to be sure you have 'valid items only' ? |
| 13:36.17 | [dRaCo] | Iceroth: down, nobody knows why, no eta |
| 13:36.19 | cncfanatics | Iceroth, slacky admins |
| 13:36.21 | Elkano | Grum, that could work, yes |
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| 13:36.33 | Grum | but you would end up with 0 data every time and still needing to share to get more |
| 13:36.46 | Grum | what kind of data do you need to share Elkano ? just numbers? |
| 13:36.47 | Elkano | since in that case all items in your cahce have come from the server since it was rebooted |
| 13:36.49 | Iceroth | well get a lock or spriest here, they are so OP they can probably summon an admin too |
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| 13:37.05 | Elkano | yes, I only share the baseid of the items |
| 13:37.35 | Grum | so whenever the item is considered valid for the server (aka it has seen it this instance it is running) you can request the remainder of the info? |
| 13:37.54 | [dRaCo] | Elkano: one addon channel per group? or can you create as many as you want to? |
| 13:37.57 | Elkano | yes, I do that by simply setting a tooltip for the id |
| 13:38.22 | Qaarh | Hello, everyone |
| 13:38.27 | Grum | wouldn't with some (whatever encoding) be rather small messages? if you are just talking about itemids |
| 13:38.44 | Grum | even just turning it base64 would compress it twofold |
| 13:39.15 | Elkano | [dRaCo], they are created by the client itself as soon as you join a group. PARTY is used for 5 man groups, RAID for raids etc. GROUP referes to the largest group channel available |
| 13:39.38 | Elkano | Grum, AceComm itself compresses the data efore sending |
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| 13:39.52 | [dRaCo] | but there's only one channel for a group, not one for each addon... :/ |
| 13:40.19 | Grum | Elkano: well if you can send 200 itemids in 1 message wouldn't that be less overhead than sending 200x1 message? |
| 13:40.20 | Elkano | exactly. the messages are prefixed by an id so the addon can check by prefix if the message is ment for it |
| 13:40.59 | Grum | and tbh i have no idea what amount of 'valid items' we're talking about |
| 13:41.17 | Grum | is it 100? 2000? 30000? |
| 13:41.21 | Elkano | grum, yes. thus I currently send 5ids at a time since 200 would imho be a to large message for background noise |
| 13:41.28 | [dRaCo] | and if you only send a msg like "hey, i'm using that addon" and then p2p using whisper? |
| 13:41.50 | Elkano | well, during a session, with sharing you'll end up with 1k-5k valid items |
| 13:42.03 | Dustwhisper| | How would I go about it if I want to dynamically show anywhere between say 10 coloured rectangles to 5000 coloured rectangles ? How do I create and pool it in such a manner to not rape memory |
| 13:42.20 | Grum | Elkano: what is the worst problem? parsing the messages or receiving the messages? |
| 13:42.37 | Elkano | [dRaCo], well that was the other idea but then a single client will end up with size_of_message * number_of_clients data sent |
| 13:42.40 | Grum | i'd put it onto parsing which people could directly notice - receiving and storing seems rather 'low impact' even for 'rather large messages' |
| 13:43.17 | Grum | looking @ wowhead i can see 21999 items |
| 13:44.02 | Grum | i'm wondering how the 'item variations' are handled ingame - do those generate new uniq itemids? |
| 13:44.06 | Grum | like 'of the beast' |
| 13:44.07 | [dRaCo] | nope |
| 13:44.14 | [dRaCo] | oh, those |
| 13:44.17 | [dRaCo] | dunno |
| 13:44.22 | Elkano | the main problem is simply traffic and not causing to much traffic especialy to those not using the addon |
| 13:44.58 | Grum | Elkano: hmmm there is no way to do filtering on it right? |
| 13:45.06 | Elkano | wrt the ids it like basid:enchant:suffix:gem:gem:gem:uniqueid |
| 13:45.40 | Amadeo | Elkano: I just had the one to get my pet taming, is there another? |
| 13:45.42 | Grum | because an alternative would be to broadcast a 'I can share data in "$CHANNEL"' into GROUP |
| 13:45.51 | Elkano | so by only sending the basid, the information about the suffix gets lost but thats irrelevant as this data is in the client and not handled by the server directly |
| 13:46.10 | Grum | join and hide the channel - have your addon respond to it as well by joining and hiding the channel on other boxes and start exchanging data |
| 13:46.16 | Elkano | Amadeo, yes ther should be a 2nd part where you get another bunch of skills |
| 13:46.47 | Amadeo | hm, well I got Tame Beast, Call Pet, and Dismiss Pet |
| 13:46.55 | Elkano | Grum, but that would mean using one of the 10 available chat channels per client which should be avoided by addons at all cost |
| 13:47.09 | Elkano | Amadeo, so you miss feed, train and such |
| 13:47.22 | Grum | you have just done the first part Amadeo :) |
| 13:47.39 | Elkano | but iirc your trainer should have sent you to the next major city's trainer |
| 13:47.47 | Grum | from farfarfarback memory you get the first quest from the trainer in the starter town |
| 13:47.52 | Grum | and the second from the 'big city' |
| 13:47.57 | Grum | indeed Elkano :) |
| 13:48.33 | [dRaCo] | Elkano: and if you only share on request? |
| 13:48.42 | Amadeo | Elkano: I'll check, thanks! |
| 13:48.59 | Grum | yeah but how to do that [dRaCo] - you have to have your addon communicate on who can exchange and who can not |
| 13:49.02 | Qaarh | you guys know who's the current author of GarbageFu? |
| 13:49.05 | Grum | oh that is actually quite doable :) |
| 13:49.11 | [dRaCo] | it is |
| 13:49.39 | [dRaCo] | broadcast a "please send me your data" using the addon channels |
| 13:49.40 | Grum | Elkano: can you find out how many people are listening in into GROUP channels? |
| 13:49.47 | [dRaCo] | wouldnt cause to much traffic |
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| 13:50.08 | Grum | or better - please send me start#-end# |
| 13:50.44 | [dRaCo] | something like that, yeah |
| 13:50.48 | Grum | it's the same with flushing your complete cartographer database into the GUILD channel - that makes people cry |
| 13:50.55 | Iceroth | anyone got a link to the 1st death knight spell that was supposed to be confirmed, the one that turned hots to dots? |
| 13:51.02 | Iceroth | or, healing to damage rather |
| 13:51.20 | Grum | iceroth: worldofraids.com might have it for ya? (dunno) |
| 13:51.32 | Dustwhisper| | is there anyway you can create textures that automaticly clip within it's parent frame ? |
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| 13:52.50 | Elkano | Grum, GROUP is 40 at most I think meaning a full raid/bg |
| 13:53.31 | Grum | yeah but you can never know the ratio of 'addon-enabled' people vs 'normal clients' so you can decide to stop spamming when too many normal clients are in the pool |
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| 13:54.35 | Elkano | well, I think GUILD could be an even larger problem |
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| 13:55.05 | Elkano | an for battlegrounds it seems like the hidden whisper channel does not work X-server |
| 13:55.30 | vhaarr | indeed it does not |
| 13:55.38 | xyu | shame |
| 13:55.52 | Grum | lol not a shame at all |
| 13:56.14 | Grum | remember that if you get an itemid from another server you will disconnect while asking for the tooltip on your own server if the item hasn't been seen :) |
| 13:56.14 | xyu | (i dont know what i'm talking about) i just pretend |
| 13:56.38 | Elkano | though I still don't know how items in X-server effect linksafety |
| 13:56.39 | vhaarr | Grum: I suppose the addon communication channel can only be used to share item ids. |
| 13:56.51 | TinoDidriksen | I never did grasp why they made you disconnect and not just pop up a nice error... |
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| 13:57.04 | Grum | to prevent datamining |
| 13:57.12 | Grum | if you can do it the servers would get hammered beyond believe |
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| 13:57.45 | TinoDidriksen | There's already flood protection for that. |
| 13:57.58 | Elkano | xyu, well, but by inspecting the other player you could link the item to your guild so if it would dc you it wouldn't be caused by misusage of the UI and I don't know if Blizzard want legal user to dc |
| 13:59.04 | Pkekyo | http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=pVMxdAbox0zbZVVzAM0RZc opinions? |
| 13:59.06 | Elkano | before 2.1 I used to share whole item links via whispers because in that case when reciving one I could be 100% sure it's valid ^^ |
| 13:59.56 | JASlaughter | Anyone aware if GetBattlefieldInstanceRunTime() returns > 0 in arenas? |
| 14:00.24 | Grum | Elkano: is there any easy way to see if your addon channel is getting spammed beyond believe? |
| 14:00.46 | Elkano | are you using prat? |
| 14:00.53 | Grum | yeah ofc |
| 14:01.04 | Grum | prolly some debug module in there? |
| 14:01.07 | Elkano | then simply enable its addon message module ^^ |
| 14:01.13 | [dRaCo] | Pkekyo: I'd go 31/30 for pve |
| 14:01.15 | Grum | grin |
| 14:01.29 | Elkano | but better create a new chat frame to put the output in ^^ |
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| 14:01.37 | Punkie` | Pkekyo: No improved rend? wtf?! |
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| 14:01.42 | Grum | Elkano: wondering which addons are spamming me |
| 14:01.59 | Grum | i think with 'default' Omen settings it will actualyl send out double the data to 'be compatible' with KTM |
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| 14:04.43 | Necrathex | is there any mail addon that knows about the new instant delivery between alts? |
| 14:05.25 | mitch0 | instant delivery? |
| 14:05.31 | xyu | and then does what? |
| 14:05.54 | cncfanatics | if u send a mail to a character to the same account as the current one its instant no matter what |
| 14:06.11 | Necrathex | well, i'm using mailinfo and it spams me about mails being delivered from an alt, which i've opened an hour ago |
| 14:06.24 | xyu | ah |
| 14:06.27 | mitch0 | hm. since when? guess I missed a patch :) |
| 14:06.32 | cncfanatics | last patch |
| 14:06.37 | xyu | its recent |
| 14:06.37 | Elkano | 2.1.3 or hotfix |
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| 14:06.42 | Necrathex | it should just ignore timers for mails sent to your own alts |
| 14:06.42 | mitch0 | ah |
| 14:06.43 | cncfanatics | 2.1.3 |
| 14:06.48 | cncfanatics | oh |
| 14:06.53 | cncfanatics | and it should start a timer for money mails now |
| 14:06.56 | mitch0 | nice thing in any case |
| 14:07.00 | cncfanatics | they're not isntant anymore except to alts |
| 14:07.10 | mitch0 | money has always been instant, hasn't it? |
| 14:07.12 | Necrathex | yeah, money mails and item mails are the same now |
| 14:07.14 | xyu | it used to be |
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| 14:07.17 | xyu | but not any longer |
| 14:07.25 | Punkie` | Elkano: If you are having a problem with getting disconnected, I had it a good while back so could be fixed.. however the addon was cartographer_noteshare |
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| 14:11.04 | Amadeo | Elkano: Got it D: |
| 14:11.07 | Amadeo | :D |
| 14:11.51 | jme | dude, horde won AV like twice last night |
| 14:11.54 | jme | http://i14.tinypic.com/5xxodwy |
| 14:12.00 | jme | ^ proof |
| 14:12.35 | Dustwhisper| | ? |
| 14:12.43 | Dustwhisper| | horde never loses av on my server =D |
| 14:12.51 | jme | horde rarely wins AV on my battlegroup |
| 14:12.52 | Dustwhisper| | well it's crossrealm now |
| 14:13.00 | Dustwhisper| | but it's seldom |
| 14:13.00 | Johbe | random horde in my battlegroup are so incredibly stupid I almost puked on em. |
| 14:13.15 | kenlyric | <PROTECTED> |
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| 14:13.25 | jme | ~puke |
| 14:13.25 | purl | HOOF BLEEEECH! *flush* |
| 14:13.26 | Johbe | and if you open your mouth trying to get something organized, all you get is spam and arguments |
| 14:13.27 | kenlyric | jme: horde wins AV ever? |
| 14:13.35 | jme | kenlyric: not often |
| 14:13.43 | kenlyric | yes, but that implies they've won. |
| 14:13.51 | kenlyric | you must not be on vindication. |
| 14:13.56 | jme | kenlyric: rampage |
| 14:14.10 | Pkekyo | [dRaCo]: the specc is for pvp only |
| 14:14.21 | [dRaCo] | Pkekyo: fine then :) |
| 14:14.21 | jme | also see that screenshot for my UI :P |
| 14:14.22 | sb | kenlyric: well - join with 30 ppl who do what you tell them... no problem at all :o |
| 14:14.39 | kenlyric | sb: right, never seen it happen |
| 14:14.42 | sb | kenlyric: http://img353.imageshack.us/my.php?image=wowscrnshot080407022700vg5.jpg <-- see :p |
| 14:15.52 | Pkekyo | ffs, lion meat really needs a droprate buff |
| 14:16.29 | Elkano | iPhone tool anyone? http://www.hardocp.com/news.html?news=MjcyODMsLCxoZW50aHVzaWFzdCwsLDE= |
| 14:17.01 | sb | lol |
| 14:18.03 | kenlyric | look, it's even got apple's signature brush aluminum finish. |
| 14:19.34 | Pkekyo | lmfao |
| 14:20.05 | Elkano | it's funny to see that most people use EBB's default setup ^^ |
| 14:20.48 | Higdur | Elkano: it just means that you did the default so damn good? :D |
| 14:21.16 | Elkano | well, it's actually stolen :( |
| 14:21.21 | Higdur | hehe |
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| 14:21.41 | Elkano | someone had hacked GypsyMod back then and I liked its lokk but not its code |
| 14:21.42 | Pkekyo | Elkano: what you mean by 'default setup'? |
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| 14:22.14 | Elkano | well, eg blue for buffs and the design of the bars. |
| 14:22.21 | Dustwhisper| | the picture zoom functionality on curse.com is really fubar in opera |
| 14:22.45 | Elkano | I once had a design close to the original GypsyMod layout ^^ |
| 14:22.55 | [dRaCo] | only thing I changed for my EBB are the textures |
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| 14:23.14 | Dustwhisper| | i changed the layout around |
| 14:23.21 | Dustwhisper| | added important buffs/Debuffs in their own group |
| 14:23.23 | Dustwhisper| | that is near center |
| 14:23.27 | Pkekyo | my EBB setup: (upper left) http://img124.imageshack.us/img124/3719/wowscrnshot080107201549vb0.jpg |
| 14:23.49 | hamunaptra | svn still fubar'd? |
| 14:24.13 | [dRaCo] | that's ebbs, isnt it? |
| 14:24.27 | Pkekyo | aye |
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| 14:24.49 | [dRaCo] | I'm still using ebb, cba to switch to ebbs ^^ |
| 14:25.05 | Pkekyo | what's the fucking difference? O.o |
| 14:25.31 | Nickenyfiken | EBBs is fucking better |
| 14:25.38 | Pkekyo | howso? |
| 14:25.44 | Pkekyo | and why is there two?! |
| 14:25.46 | [dRaCo] | ebbs has that grouping stuff and seperate buff/debuff anchors |
| 14:25.46 | Nickenyfiken | Don't let your GF near. |
| 14:25.48 | kenlyric | cba? |
| 14:25.56 | [dRaCo] | cant be arsed. :> |
| 14:26.01 | kenlyric | wtf? |
| 14:26.03 | kenlyric | is that a word? |
| 14:26.10 | [dRaCo] | not really. |
| 14:26.17 | kenlyric | isn't that like saying "can't be assed"? |
| 14:26.25 | [dRaCo] | http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=cba =) |
| 14:26.29 | Pkekyo | I'd guess it would be three words... |
| 14:26.30 | kenlyric | must be some cultural thing. |
| 14:26.58 | kenlyric | no, arsed. Doesn't jibe with my knowledge of arse. |
| 14:27.21 | Pkekyo | and you have a vast knowledge of arse(s)? |
| 14:27.34 | [dRaCo] | the main problem with switching to ebbs is: I dont want to redo my config :> |
| 14:27.57 | Pkekyo | you can buy my config? :> |
| 14:28.06 | [dRaCo] | I like mine, thx :þ |
| 14:28.08 | [dRaCo] | Elkano: is there a way to import the cfg? |
| 14:28.14 | kenlyric | it's ebbs, it takes 1.5 seconds to configure. |
| 14:28.46 | [dRaCo] | 1 second to much! |
| 14:29.51 | Pkekyo | rofl |
| 14:29.58 | Pkekyo | and you'd rather spend an hour porting your cfg? x) |
| 14:30.45 | [dRaCo] | I'd rather click a button and have the addon do it for me ;) |
| 14:30.57 | [dRaCo] | aight, nuff kidding. |
| 14:31.11 | [dRaCo] | I dont see a reason to switch, ebb works perfect for me |
| 14:31.45 | Amadeo | wow |
| 14:31.50 | Amadeo | Hellgate: London shipping Oct 31st |
| 14:31.59 | [dRaCo] | woot? |
| 14:32.07 | Elkano | [dRaCo], you would have switched by now if I woulnd have 'fixed' the name. It's not another addon, only a new version |
| 14:32.29 | Elkano | and I myself would suggest switching because of some fixes made that EBB wont see |
| 14:33.31 | Pkekyo | yeah, why'd you give it a new name btw? |
| 14:33.53 | Elkano | and what do you mean by config? EBB didn't have any settings worth calling them config |
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| 14:34.25 | [dRaCo] | bar size n stuff, textures... but I just updated, so nvm ;) |
| 14:34.45 | Elkano | Pkekyo, I do refere to it as EBB myself but it's not a single bur but groups of bars so "Elkano's BuffBars" is the correct terminus |
| 14:35.03 | Elkano | EBB din't hae adjustable textures/fonts ^^ |
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| 14:35.41 | [dRaCo] | no texture settings? |
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| 14:35.54 | Elkano | btw... up to now I think I have seen noone using the 2x2 font marix, only one line is used by the players :/ |
| 14:36.12 | xyu | i don't know the "power" of EBB |
| 14:36.20 | xyu | i know nothing i just install it |
| 14:36.22 | xyu | move it to the corner |
| 14:36.23 | xyu | call it good |
| 14:36.23 | Elkano | no, old EBB only had a single texture |
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| 14:36.39 | lapalapa | woot svn up ! |
| 14:36.39 | Pkekyo | the otravi texture? |
| 14:36.47 | kenlyric | I change it to "grow up". that's about it. |
| 14:36.48 | Elkano | xyu: ^^ so at least my initial setup provides it quiet useable ^^ |
| 14:36.56 | xyu | yep ^^ |
| 14:37.32 | RogueShadow | I like the buff bars :) |
| 14:38.01 | Saroz | give SVN changelog fgs :| |
| 14:38.23 | Punkie` | Saroz: trac? |
| 14:38.34 | Pkekyo | I love the bars themselves, but couldn't get it to fit my UI |
| 14:38.40 | kebinusan | Elkano, I jsut wish EBB had global settings to set things like font and texture for all groupings at once |
| 14:38.54 | RogueShadow | kebinusan: I second that!!! |
| 14:39.35 | Pkekyo | agreed |
| 14:39.47 | Punkie` | you can pull the settings from 1 group though |
| 14:39.50 | Punkie` | then just change the colour |
| 14:39.57 | Punkie` | at least, thats what I do |
| 14:40.13 | weab | i never understood why people like their buffs/debuffs listed out in a big list of bars. it's such a waste of screen real estate :( |
| 14:40.14 | kebinusan | yeah I spose so |
| 14:40.44 | Pkekyo | weab: depends on how many acres your screen real estate counts ;> |
| 14:40.49 | kebinusan | The coloring of the bars makes it easy to see things at a glance |
| 14:40.56 | kebinusan | I dunno just something I got used to from gypsymod |
| 14:41.10 | RogueShadow | Depends on how big you make your bars also. |
| 14:41.12 | kenlyric | I like the sorting by time left, and the rather obvious coloring. |
| 14:41.45 | kenlyric | and the fact that it's not at the top of my screen :) |
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| 14:42.04 | Elkano | btw: anyone got some spare time to restore a wiki page from google cache? |
| 14:42.35 | Elkano | > http://209.85.135.104/search?q=cache:cuken4xx2EcJ:rowne.wowace.com/wiki/SharedMedia_statusbar_textures+site:wowace.com+sharedmedia&hl=de&ct=clnk&cd=15&gl=de |
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| 14:43.35 | cncfanatics | whats the event when a button receives a drag ? |
| 14:43.38 | cncfanatics | OnReceiveDrag ? |
| 14:43.50 | nevcairiel | OnDragReceive i think |
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| 14:44.39 | nevcairiel | ah no, you were right |
| 14:44.41 | nevcairiel | OnReceiveDrag |
| 14:45.00 | cncfanatics | I was mistakingly using OnDragStop insrad |
| 14:45.03 | cncfanatics | gave weird results lol |
| 14:45.42 | cncfanatics | function to check if in combat ? :p |
| 14:46.04 | Nickenyfiken | wowwiki.com :-P |
| 14:46.05 | mitch0 | InCombatLockdown()? |
| 14:46.19 | mitch0 | or IsCombatLockdown(). something like that |
| 14:46.45 | cncfanatics | InCombatLockdown() |
| 14:46.46 | cncfanatics | ty |
| 14:46.51 | cncfanatics | lovely wowace channel + wowwiki :p |
| 14:46.57 | cncfanatics | cheers guy |
| 14:46.57 | CIA-23 | 03hegarol * r45774 10AtlasLoot_RepFactions/rep.lua: |
| 14:46.57 | CIA-23 | AtlasLoot_RepFactions: |
| 14:46.57 | CIA-23 | - Pattern update |
| 14:46.59 | cncfanatics | guys* -.- |
| 14:47.01 | cncfanatics | svn is up ? |
| 14:47.02 | cncfanatics | oooh |
| 14:47.04 | Nickenyfiken | svn!? |
| 14:48.40 | jme | svn you say?? |
| 14:49.09 | hamunaptra | little question: I'm iterating through all buffs that a player has: local id = GetPlayerBuff(num, "HELPFUL"), I then proceed to get the tooltip to that buff: myTooltip:SetUnitBuff(self.player, id). I get back tooltips, but they only match part of the time... could it be that the SetUnitBuff wants an ID as in "the 5. buff" instead of the real buff id? |
| 14:50.52 | CIA-23 | 03adelea * r45775 10GridManaBars/ (. GridManaBars.lua): GridManaBars: Removed the 'Never' status on hiding - could maybe fix the hiding problems. Thanks Halgrimm. |
| 14:51.45 | sb | ohh svn is back :o |
| 14:54.07 | CIA-23 | 03nickenyfiken * r45776 10FuBar_TrainerFu/TrainerFu_FuBar.lua: FuBar_TrainerFu: independentProfile = true |
| 14:54.11 | Elkano | hamunaptra, use SetPlayerBuff(id) instead of SetUnitBuff since you used GetPlayerBuff instead o GetUnitBuff |
| 14:55.21 | hamunaptra | elkana: thx, I'll try that |
| 14:56.38 | hamunaptra | -a+o (sorry) |
| 14:57.16 | nevcairiel | nice typo heh |
| 14:58.05 | silentium | can anyone point me to an addon that always shows party buffs/debuffs with the default unitframes? my gf said she had tried buffalo2 but it mixed up with the buff symbols every once in a while |
| 14:58.21 | jme | need moar coffeeee |
| 14:58.47 | Silviu- | Let the mass commits come ! |
| 14:58.47 | Silviu- | ;) |
| 14:59.33 | kenlyric | hmmm... what's the change to trainerfu do? |
| 14:59.36 | lapalapa | hmm anyone have a clue how to setup avion? Sirow promised some options but current branch revision has no one |
| 14:59.45 | kenlyric | make it understand that my level 1 hunter doesn't need 45g in training? |
| 15:01.32 | Neebler | lapalapa: hes written the core for it, and is now writing modules for it. read the forum post he wrote yesterday |
| 15:02.13 | lapalapa | well i thought he got his branched version working, but now i see that may be he wrote core and havent published it yet |
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| 15:03.58 | CIA-23 | 03hamunaptra * r45777 10fmBuffCheck/fmBuffCheck.lua: |
| 15:03.58 | CIA-23 | fmBuffCheck: |
| 15:03.58 | CIA-23 | - added debugging info to figure out why communication does not always work... |
| 15:03.58 | CIA-23 | - fixed "SecondaryHandSlot" (was "OffHandSlot", duh) |
| 15:03.58 | CIA-23 | - added filtering based on group rights... |
| 15:03.59 | CIA-23 | - fixed a strange buff tooltip anomaly (thx Elkano) |
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| 15:05.44 | Elkano | hamunaptra, you're welcome ^^ EBB made me know a bunch about the buff API ^^ |
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| 15:07.47 | Keya | EBB = ? |
| 15:08.03 | Dustwhisper | elkano buffbar(s) |
| 15:08.40 | Keya | thanks |
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| 15:09.58 | hamunaptra | i still think that the buff api sux, it should be possible to get the description of an object without going through creating a dummy tooltip... it would be even better if there was a function to get the type (battle, offensive, other) of a buff/elixier without parsing the tooltip at all... *sigh* |
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| 15:10.33 | Dustwhisper | Is there some way to have textures that's a child of a frame clip automaticly? (Eg not show outside frame even if the coordinates are outside) |
| 15:10.41 | Dustwhisper | or do you have to deal with that manually |
| 15:13.21 | cncfanatics | hamunaptra, dont get me started about the various blizz APIs |
| 15:13.25 | cncfanatics | most suck donkey balls |
| 15:14.49 | hamunaptra | urgh... how will I get THAT picture out of my head ... |
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| 15:16.26 | cncfanatics | wtf ? |
| 15:16.27 | Elkano | cncfanatics, I think mostly because they have grown but not evolved. new features were added but cleaning up would require breaking a lot of stuff... maybe one thay they'll do it |
| 15:16.36 | cncfanatics | ok |
| 15:16.39 | jme | so i love i when i'm riding down the road in AV and i hear stealth |
| 15:16.44 | cncfanatics | blizz-is-a-moron alert |
| 15:16.51 | jme | so i stop, run around, find the rogue stealthed in the middle of the road, and kill it |
| 15:16.53 | cncfanatics | GetCursorInfo(); returns nil when u have a pet spell on ur cursor |
| 15:16.58 | cncfanatics | whats the "correct" function to get it |
| 15:17.13 | cncfanatics | someone ? |
| 15:17.15 | hamunaptra | they could leave the old ones as they are and create new ones... that wouldn't break a thing... |
| 15:17.25 | jme | <- not a ui coder |
| 15:17.38 | cncfanatics | jme, do ~owned please |
| 15:17.43 | jme | ~owned |
| 15:17.43 | purl | No one gives a shit, jme. |
| 15:17.44 | cncfanatics | purl will think exactly the same as me |
| 15:17.47 | jme | cncfanatics: hah |
| 15:18.00 | jme | cncfanatics: good one ;) |
| 15:18.51 | Elkano | I think most of us would be happy if a lot more noncritical data would be available via API without having to scan tooltips and such |
| 15:19.00 | cncfanatics | someone |
| 15:19.08 | cncfanatics | GetCursorInfo(); returns nil when u have a pet spell on ur cursor, whats the "correct" function to get it |
| 15:19.15 | CIA-23 | 03hegarol * r45778 10AtlasLoot_BCInstances/burningcrusade.en.lua: |
| 15:19.15 | CIA-23 | AtlasLoot_BCInstances: |
| 15:19.15 | CIA-23 | - Zul'Aman preparation |
| 15:19.37 | CIA-23 | 03hegarol * r45779 10AtlasLoot/ (6 files in 2 dirs): |
| 15:19.37 | CIA-23 | AtlasLoot: |
| 15:19.37 | CIA-23 | - Zul'Aman preparation |
| 15:20.36 | CIA-23 | 03jncl * r45780 10Skinner/ (6 files in 2 dirs): |
| 15:20.36 | CIA-23 | Skinner: Skinned QuestHistory, epgp, BigGuild |
| 15:20.36 | CIA-23 | - Updated ArkInventory skin |
| 15:20.53 | Pkekyo | rofl, Prat shows my lvl 1 bank alt to be lvl 70 in chats ^^ |
| 15:20.57 | cncfanatics | meh, nevcairiel, ping |
| 15:22.11 | CIA-23 | 03athou * r45781 10CraftList2/CraftList2.lua: |
| 15:22.11 | CIA-23 | CraftList2: |
| 15:22.11 | CIA-23 | - potential nil bugfix |
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| 15:24.32 | nevcairiel | cncfanatics:? |
| 15:24.43 | cncfanatics | nevcairiel, |
| 15:24.47 | cncfanatics | GetCursorInfo(); returns nil when u have a pet spell on ur cursor, whats the "correct" function to get it |
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| 15:25.21 | cncfanatics | cant find one |
| 15:25.36 | cncfanatics | I do find it silly it returns nil for pet stuff though |
| 15:25.43 | break19 | Pkekyo: yea.. I've had similar issues.. |
| 15:27.07 | CIA-23 | 03roartindon * r45782 10TagCompiler-1.0/TagCompiler-1.0/TagCompiler-1.0.lua: |
| 15:27.07 | CIA-23 | TagCompiler-1.0 |
| 15:27.07 | CIA-23 | - Changed default :Percent tag to expect a fraction. It now multiplies the value by 100 implicitly. This makes other tags simpler overall |
| 15:27.45 | cncfanatics | nevcairiel, got an idea ? :p |
| 15:27.48 | CIA-23 | 03roartindon * r45783 10Aloft/ (5 files in 4 dirs): |
| 15:27.48 | CIA-23 | Aloft |
| 15:27.48 | CIA-23 | - Changed HealthPercent, ManaPercent to HealthFraction, ManaFraction for the change to :Percent in TagCompiler |
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| 15:28.10 | cncfanatics | this roartindon cant write compile messages tbh |
| 15:28.11 | nevcairiel | cncfanatics: not sure actually, check the pet bar code :P |
| 15:28.15 | cncfanatics | I did |
| 15:28.20 | cncfanatics | doesnt seem to manage pet dragging somehow |
| 15:28.30 | Roartindon | cncfanatics: ?? |
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| 15:29.00 | cncfanatics | Nvm roartindon :) |
| 15:29.06 | CIA-23 | 03roartindon * r45784 10Assessment/Modules/ (Deaths.lua Dispel.lua Healing.lua Threat.lua UnitData.lua): |
| 15:29.06 | CIA-23 | Assessment |
| 15:29.06 | CIA-23 | - Changed tags to remove the multiply by 100 before calling :Percent |
| 15:29.21 | cncfanatics | nevcairiel, it does PickupPetAction |
| 15:29.25 | fireglow | SharedMedia makes my wow crash :-/ anyone else has this? |
| 15:29.29 | cncfanatics | unfortunatly, I dont use action ids |
| 15:29.56 | cncfanatics | I do wonder why blizz seperated both spell & pet api though |
| 15:29.57 | cncfanatics | its silly |
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| 15:30.04 | nevcairiel | true |
| 15:30.26 | cncfanatics | either way, I cant use the functions they do |
| 15:30.33 | cncfanatics | need to just find out if its on the cursor somehow |
| 15:31.18 | Pkekyo | yay, I've passed 13k hp unbuffed :> |
| 15:31.59 | Tornhoof | safehook pickupspell? |
| 15:32.00 | cncfanatics | Pkekyo, I did that yesterday :) |
| 15:32.15 | cncfanatics | hmmm |
| 15:32.21 | cncfanatics | does the spellbook call that for pet stuff ? |
| 15:32.25 | cncfanatics | and its still silly -.- |
| 15:32.25 | Tornhoof | i dunno |
| 15:32.51 | cncfanatics | damnit, I'm gonna complain to slouken :p |
| 15:33.05 | cncfanatics | In the meantime, I guess pet spells will be unsupported |
| 15:33.18 | Tornhoof | nobody likes hunterz and warlockz anyway ;) |
| 15:33.21 | cncfanatics | :p |
| 15:33.24 | cncfanatics | Tornhoof, ur US ? |
| 15:33.27 | Tornhoof | no |
| 15:33.29 | Tornhoof | eu |
| 15:33.41 | cncfanatics | anyone with an US acc here ? need something posted in the UI thread |
| 15:34.41 | Pkekyo | cncfanatics: yeah, feels good, doesn't it? *starts regemming for 14k* |
| 15:34.57 | cncfanatics | Pkekyo, lol |
| 15:35.00 | cncfanatics | I'm a palatank |
| 15:35.01 | [dRaCo] | warrior? |
| 15:35.02 | cncfanatics | so its quite a lot |
| 15:35.44 | Dustwhisper- | hehe |
| 15:35.46 | Pkekyo | I'm warrilol....starting kara tonight :> |
| 15:35.47 | Dustwhisper- | one of our warrior tanks |
| 15:35.50 | Dustwhisper- | got superinsulted |
| 15:35.57 | Dustwhisper- | when we said a paladin tank is good for 5mans heroics etc |
| 15:36.07 | CIA-23 | 03earthbane * r45785 10HellbenderDKP/ (. HellbenderDKP.lua HellbenderDKP.toc ToDo.txt): |
| 15:36.07 | CIA-23 | HellbenderDKP: |
| 15:36.07 | CIA-23 | - FIX - Missing Gratuity-2.0 dependency |
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| 15:37.21 | cncfanatics | DustWhisper-, lol seriously ? |
| 15:37.30 | Dustwhisper- | Yes |
| 15:37.33 | Pkekyo | hahah |
| 15:37.39 | cncfanatics | go tell him I can tank whole Karazhan as only tank while he dps's, including nightbane without any tremors or fear wards |
| 15:37.41 | Dustwhisper- | he was all like "If a paladin tank can do a better job than me at tank im quitting the game" |
| 15:37.43 | cncfanatics | close minded shit idiots |
| 15:37.50 | Pkekyo | tbh, I'd love to have a pala tank in the guild...they're great for multimob tanking :> |
| 15:37.52 | Dustwhisper- | I didnt have the heart to show him a pala tank in shattered halls AOE run |
| 15:37.53 | cncfanatics | Dustwhisper- please tell that idiot what I said |
| 15:37.57 | cncfanatics | hahahaha |
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| 15:38.08 | cncfanatics | Dustwhisper- I have a 35 minute SH lying around somewhere |
| 15:38.11 | cncfanatics | please show him the video |
| 15:38.13 | cncfanatics | please please please |
| 15:38.13 | Dustwhisper- | ye ive seen it |
| 15:38.25 | cncfanatics | (I mean one where i'm doing that myself) |
| 15:39.05 | Dustwhisper- | Anyways guys what is the most efficient way to create, reuse and draw hundreds or thousands of coloured rectangles/bars in a window and is it possible to have their parent automaticly clip them ? |
| 15:39.26 | cncfanatics | Dustwhisper-, please link him this |
| 15:39.30 | cncfanatics | http://video.google.nl/videoplay?docid=6677345267324863074 |
| 15:39.57 | Antiarc|Work | http://youtube.com/watch?v=HwPF3kW7VHY |
| 15:40.05 | Antiarc|Work | Someone tell me how you're supposed to even play that. |
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| 15:40.43 | Keya | I might end up switching places with our MT as well in Kara, when he wants to take his priest for a ride |
| 15:40.56 | cncfanatics | Keya, I'm currently one of the kara MTs |
| 15:40.59 | cncfanatics | (we have 2 kara groups) |
| 15:41.10 | Dustwhisper- | I'd like to see a paladin tank tank morogrim tidewalker though |
| 15:41.13 | Dustwhisper- | or gruul maybe |
| 15:41.13 | Keya | SH is lovely for Tankadins |
| 15:41.24 | Roartindon | Antiarc: impressive :) |
| 15:41.29 | Elkano | cncfanatics, warriro, pala or druid? |
| 15:41.54 | Keya | though i'm seriously surprised how well a paladin can tank even when specced holy - all non heroics are easy as hell |
| 15:42.09 | CIA-23 | 03cryect * r45786 10Recount/ (GUI_Main.lua Recount.lua Recount.toc Tracker.lua pets.lua): |
| 15:42.09 | CIA-23 | Recount - SVN Finally Fixed YEAH! |
| 15:42.09 | CIA-23 | - Several pet related bug fixes |
| 15:42.09 | CIA-23 | - Adds support for saving up to last 10 fights |
| 15:42.09 | CIA-23 | - Fixes power gain recording |
| 15:42.26 | Elkano | ok, looks like you are a pala... |
| 15:43.12 | Dustwhisper- | Antiarc you have to be asian |
| 15:43.13 | Elkano | I had similar problems as a druid, especially when it comes to 25 person raids... but thats mainly because we've got too many tanking warriors |
| 15:43.14 | Grum | Keya: yeah i heard something from a paladin like: "What is that thing you tanks call 'threat'" |
| 15:43.20 | cncfanatics | Elkano, I'm a pala |
| 15:43.27 | Antiarc|Work | Dustwhisper-: I wasn't playing that |
| 15:43.31 | Antiarc|Work | I want to know how the hell someone does. |
| 15:43.35 | Roartindon | Antiarc: I'm guessing it'd take a little practise :) |
| 15:43.37 | cncfanatics | Grum, heh |
| 15:43.38 | Dustwhisper- | that's what i was saying |
| 15:43.40 | Dustwhisper- | you have to be asian to do it |
| 15:43.46 | Dustwhisper- | we have 2 druid tanks, 10 warrior tanks and no palatanks |
| 15:43.58 | Keya | Grum: I tanked Vanndar Stormpike last night with my holy paly in the usual tanking chaos that is Alterac Valley |
| 15:44.19 | MoonWolf | tanking stormpike is easy |
| 15:44.21 | Roartindon | Antiarc: Eh, playing music involves muscle memory too. if you practise, you play the stuff correctly in the right times |
| 15:44.22 | Grum | compare warrior // druid // pally TPS and the amount of buttons you have to smash |
| 15:44.25 | MoonWolf | if you can find someone willing to heal you |
| 15:44.27 | LAG|Domo | http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=2525.msg127672#msg127672 - anyone that can tell me where to actually -add- that strictFiltering = [BOOLEAN] in the GridLayoutLayouts.lua? |
| 15:44.32 | Dustwhisper- | nothing beats druid TPS tbh |
| 15:44.37 | Dustwhisper- | but our MT now |
| 15:44.39 | Dustwhisper- | is doing some insane TPS |
| 15:44.40 | Keya | Dustwhisper: after I went first, all of my guilds' pally leveled protection |
| 15:44.45 | Roartindon | I'd say some of the fast violin stuff is more impressive than that guitar hero 3 :) |
| 15:44.47 | Grum | pally does 2-3 buttons, druid max 3, warrior ... *cry* |
| 15:44.48 | durcyn | Keya: i bet you exploit-pulled him too! |
| 15:44.49 | cncfanatics | Nothing beats pala threat as MT |
| 15:44.50 | Dustwhisper- | none of our other warrior tanks come close to our MT warrior |
| 15:44.54 | MoonWolf | you don't have to worry about people agroing, they die when they do anyway , and nobody cares. |
| 15:44.58 | Antiarc|Work | Roartindon: I play bass guitar IRL, but just moving that fast blows my mind |
| 15:45.00 | Grum | durcyn? :) |
| 15:45.09 | art3mis | bahahahahahhahahhaha |
| 15:45.29 | Grum | Dustwhisper-: what kind of tps are you talking about? |
| 15:45.35 | Dustwhisper- | spam but : guys what is the most efficient way to create, reuse and draw hundreds or thousands of coloured rectangles/bars in a window and is it possible to have their parent automaticly clip them ? |
| 15:45.42 | Dustwhisper- | Not quite sure how high he is now gruum |
| 15:45.46 | art3mis | http://tinyurl.com/ysheaw |
| 15:45.48 | Roartindon | Antiarc|Work: I've got two diplomas in music for violin :) Some of the pieces are 10+ notes per second :) |
| 15:45.59 | Grum | what i've seen on vaelsta (or whateveer the nub in BWL was called) is that given unlimited rage a equally geared warrior does more TPS than a druid |
| 15:46.02 | Dustwhisper- | some violin stuff is awesome |
| 15:46.20 | Grum | and it ranged upto 1300-1400 tps |
| 15:46.22 | Antiarc|Work | Roartindon: Guh. |
| 15:46.25 | Roartindon | Antiarc|Work: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yexrDPEfDRw |
| 15:46.29 | Roartindon | He's playing 20+ notes per second |
| 15:46.34 | Elkano | Roartindon... when it comes to viloin Vanessa Mae comes to my mind |
| 15:46.38 | Antiarc|Work | Srsly, people like that blow my mind. |
| 15:46.39 | Roartindon | Elkano: Ugh |
| 15:46.48 | cncfanatics | Elkano, do you have an US wow account by chance ? |
| 15:46.51 | Roartindon | Antiarc|Work: It's a 5 minute thing, hav ea watch, it has slow-mo of his finger movement too |
| 15:46.52 | Elkano | nope |
| 15:47.09 | Boubouille | http://www.mmo-champion.com/index.php?topic=632.0 |
| 15:47.10 | Elkano | why do you ask? |
| 15:47.13 | Boubouille | ashbringer |
| 15:47.13 | Boubouille | ^^ |
| 15:47.23 | art3mis | oh man that video rules |
| 15:47.27 | Keya | btw I want to thank the authors of Recount, the first damage analysis tool i'm totally in love with at first sight |
| 15:47.34 | cncfanatics | anyone based in the US ? i need something posted on US forums |
| 15:47.41 | Roartindon | Keya: Author* single person -> Cryect :) |
| 15:48.13 | Keya | well if its only one author, all my thanks go to Cryect |
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| 15:48.48 | cncfanatics | Roartindon, are u an US player by chance ? |
| 15:49.00 | Roartindon | cncfanatics: I play on a US server, from Australia |
| 15:49.13 | Grum | omg that video is mad Roartindon |
| 15:49.45 | cncfanatics | Roartindon, could you post something on the US forums for me ? |
| 15:49.57 | Cryect | Heh thanks, at the moment thinking of fun of remaking Recount for Recount 2.0 for patch 2.4 (major changes to API seems good time for a rehaul to better implement ideas) Still lots of work to come on current Recount though to come |
| 15:49.58 | Roartindon | cncfanatics: depends what :) |
| 15:50.18 | Roartindon | Cryect: What changes to the API in 2.4? |
| 15:50.27 | Grum | massive combatlog changes |
| 15:50.41 | Roartindon | Oh? any links to information? |
| 15:50.43 | Cryect | Yeah the combatlog is changing to not be parser based |
| 15:50.48 | Grum | no 'string parsing' but actual events + variables |
| 15:50.51 | Cryect | Watch last 5 minutes of UI Panel |
| 15:51.01 | Grum | Roartindon: yeah see http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d2OTFf9SH_E |
| 15:51.05 | Roartindon | Grum: thanks |
| 15:51.06 | Tornhoof | yah slouken wrote that months ago already |
| 15:51.09 | Cryect | also default UI will have builtin recordable combatlog that can be refiltered |
| 15:51.14 | Dustwhisper- | Recount really has most of it now these days |
| 15:51.14 | Grum | min 22-27 orso (very roughly) |
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| 15:51.20 | Dustwhisper- | it's become brilliant, still best deathlog imo |
| 15:51.25 | cncfanatics | Roartindon, an API suggestion, if you dont mind |
| 15:51.33 | Grum | oh well .. home-time! =) |
| 15:51.49 | Roartindon | Let me see if I can log in first |
| 15:51.59 | Roartindon | I've only ever written 2 messages on the US forums |
| 15:52.00 | Tornhoof | but i guess we won't see 2.4 before feb/march next year ;) |
| 15:52.07 | Roartindon | because it refuses to let me log on to them 95% of the times I try |
| 15:52.27 | Cryect | Yeah 2.4 is no time soon |
| 15:53.10 | cncfanatics | Roartindon, this would do find if you don't mind, "Currently secure action buttons have pet support, I'm working on an addon and one of its features would be to not rely on Action IDs but use the secure button's features to replace them. A problem I have stumbled upon is, the GetCursorInfo(); function will return nil if a pet spell is on it, this disallows me to support action dragging for pet spells, which is quite silly. Could |
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| 15:53.23 | cncfanatics | in the UI thread |
| 15:53.29 | cncfanatics | which should be this one if i'm not mistaking |
| 15:53.34 | cncfanatics | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=102909678&sid=1&pageNo=9 |
| 15:54.35 | Cryect | Roartindon: btw turns out the slowest part of drawing pies is the lines |
| 15:54.39 | Cryect | But, I've got a solution |
| 15:55.01 | Cryect | have a line texture for pie charts that you just rotate texture coords and don't actually move like I do for pie pieces |
| 15:55.32 | Roartindon | cncfanatics: You want it in that thread specifically? Or in that forum? |
| 15:55.47 | cncfanatics | think the correct place to post such things are in that thread |
| 15:55.56 | cncfanatics | I'm not 100% sure but it should be :p |
| 15:59.53 | CIA-23 | 03ascalia * r45787 10AtlasLoot_BCInstances/burningcrusade.en.lua: |
| 15:59.53 | CIA-23 | AtlasLoot_BCInstances: |
| 15:59.53 | CIA-23 | - fixed Zul'Aman typo for Hegarol ;) |
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| 16:01.23 | Pkekyo | !c eu bloodfeather wats |
| 16:01.27 | ThraeBot | Pkekyo: Wats, Level 70 Tauren Warrior (14/5/42). 15660 HP; 16271 Armour; 686 AP; 127.8 Melee DPS; 10.61% melee crit; 29 melee hit; 345 defense; 18.13% dodge; 24.21% block; [[ Link: http://tinyurl.com/yv5byl ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/3425ow ]] |
| 16:01.34 | cncfanatics | :o nice hp |
| 16:01.36 | cncfanatics | nerf tauren |
| 16:01.40 | cncfanatics | !c eu khadgar evolve |
| 16:01.46 | ThraeBot | cncfanatics: Evolve, Level 70 Blood Elf Paladin (41/20/0). 11927 HP; 4803 Mana; 88 mana regen; 7 mp5; 15703 Armour; 596 AP; 83.9 Melee DPS; 4.69% melee crit; 15 spell crit; 294 +spell dmg/heal; 43 holy dmg (337); 280 defense; 16.39% dodge; 19.99% block; [[ Link: http://tinyurl.com/27evs8 ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/2sm7vw ]] |
| 16:01.51 | cncfanatics | lol it got my healer spec |
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| 16:01.55 | Roartindon | cncfanatics: sorry, got this: |
| 16:01.58 | Roartindon | Currently secure action buttons have pet support, I'm working on an addon and one of its features would be to not rely on Action IDs but use the secure button's features to replace them. A problem I have stumbled upon is, the GetCursorInfo(); function will return nil if a pet spell is on it, this disallows me to support action dragging for pet spells, which is quite silly. Could |
| 16:02.06 | Roartindon | What do you want on the end of it? (did I miss anything? was briefly DCed) |
| 16:02.16 | cncfanatics | "Currently secure action buttons have pet support, I'm working on an addon and one of its features would be to not rely on Action IDs but use the secure button's features to replace them. A problem I have stumbled upon is, the GetCursorInfo(); function will return nil if a pet spell is on it, this disallows me to support action dragging for pet spells, which is quite silly. Could this be changed ?" |
| 16:02.19 | cncfanatics | that was the message |
| 16:02.29 | cncfanatics | cheers btw Roartindon :) |
| 16:02.38 | Roartindon | okay posted |
| 16:02.42 | Roartindon | see how long it takes to show up in that thread |
| 16:02.57 | cncfanatics | aint instant in the US ? :o |
| 16:03.02 | Roartindon | looks like it |
| 16:03.14 | Roartindon | for some reason, it's showing me as level 60 still.. oh well :) |
| 16:03.33 | cncfanatics | if u want to fix that |
| 16:03.38 | cncfanatics | go to character selection |
| 16:03.39 | alext | u need to go into options and re-select your guy |
| 16:03.40 | Roartindon | I don't really care :) |
| 16:03.41 | cncfanatics | and reselect ur char :p |
| 16:03.43 | alext | yah |
| 16:03.46 | alext | its easy to do |
| 16:03.59 | Roartindon | I'll post as a 60 to confuse people I guess :) |
| 16:04.27 | cncfanatics | I could have worded that a bit better |
| 16:04.30 | cncfanatics | but its understandable |
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| 16:11.01 | CIA-23 | 03jaslaughter * r45788 10JasonQuest/ (Comm.lua ReadMe.txt): |
| 16:11.01 | CIA-23 | JasonQuest: |
| 16:11.01 | CIA-23 | - Changed the check for battlegrounds, using GetBattlefieldInstanceRunTime() instead, |
| 16:11.01 | CIA-23 | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:11.01 | CIA-23 | - Fixed Comm.lua:342 nil error |
| 16:11.55 | cncfanatics | any way to get a spell's id if you know its name without looping through the spellbook ? |
| 16:12.35 | Elkano | Roartindon, wrt Vanessa Mae and violin, its basicaly this one is associate with them: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hg8Fa_EUQqY |
| 16:12.53 | Roartindon | Elkano: Yeah, I know of vanessa mae :) |
| 16:12.57 | Roartindon | LEt's see waht that video is :) |
| 16:14.08 | Roartindon | Oh yeah, that's one of her most played :) But her left hand work is no where close to as precise as Heifetz :) |
| 16:15.15 | Elkano | well, you most likely know a lot more about that stuff than I do ^^ |
| 16:15.21 | Roartindon | Even her bow work is not particularly impressive :) |
| 16:15.42 | Roartindon | She looks a lot better on stage than most violin players by a long shot tho :) |
| 16:15.57 | Elkano | still she is one of those that brings classic music to a wide audience |
| 16:16.16 | Elkano | btw: wet the ui panel, are there any videos live? |
| 16:16.25 | Elkano | oh, found on |
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| 16:19.22 | CIA-23 | 03hamunaptra * r45789 10fmBuffCheck/fmBuffCheck.lua: |
| 16:19.22 | CIA-23 | fmBuffCheck: |
| 16:19.22 | CIA-23 | - Frame Scrolling actually works now... |
| 16:19.22 | CIA-23 | - If you turn debugging on, you get tons of info you probably didn't care about... |
| 16:20.55 | Roartindon | heh, I just found a picture of my old violin duet partner |
| 16:21.00 | Roartindon | and she's looking quite tasty :) |
| 16:21.30 | Roartindon | http://www.sydneysymphony.com/page.asp?p=450 |
| 16:23.03 | Fisker- | anround Elkano never relax |
| 16:23.12 | Elkano | exactly |
| 16:23.20 | Elkano | ~backstab Fisker- |
| 16:23.21 | purl | ACTION kills his teammate Fisker- |
| 16:24.05 | jme | DB_VERSION_MISMATCH: Database environment version mismatch |
| 16:24.05 | jme | svn: bdb: Program version 4.3 doesn't match environment version |
| 16:24.17 | jme | anyone know why i get that with my svn server that i just set up? |
| 16:24.31 | Roartindon | You've compiled it against the wrong version of berkelydb for your repository |
| 16:24.45 | Roartindon | (I'm guessing) |
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| 16:26.26 | jme | or... the fact that i just copied the repository files from one machine to the other and attempted to run svnserve straight off that |
| 16:26.31 | jme | i think i need to do a dump/restore |
| 16:26.35 | Roartindon | yeah |
| 16:26.41 | Elkano | ok... watched the first few minutes of the ui pannel and the 2nd slide made me laught ^^ it's the point were one sees that theys guys are as human as we are ^^ |
| 16:26.44 | Roartindon | you can copy the files if it's a fsfs type |
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| 16:26.52 | Roartindon | but not a bdbfs type |
| 16:27.05 | Roartindon | netcat the whole lot across :) |
| 16:28.55 | cncfanatics | expected robots ? Elkano ? |
| 16:30.25 | Elkano | no, I mean one knows that they are normal people but still you do look up to them |
| 16:30.39 | Elkano | and thinks like that make them come a bit closer to you again |
| 16:31.43 | Pkekyo | !c eu bloodfeather baesj |
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| 16:32.07 | Pkekyo | shite, about time for armory to update with my tankinggear |
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| 16:33.34 | Roartindon | Looking for opinions on Solarian difficulty in comparison to other TK/SSC bosses |
| 16:33.49 | cncfanatics | I think NERF is applicable Roartindon |
| 16:34.05 | [gk]Hotphoenix | easy as void if people aren't glued to the floor ;) |
| 16:34.06 | Roartindon | cncfanatics: So he's harder than most? |
| 16:34.21 | cncfanatics | my old guild had problems with him at least |
| 16:34.31 | cncfanatics | but i'm in a gruul guild now starting void reaver today |
| 16:34.39 | cncfanatics | so will find out for this guild in a while |
| 16:34.46 | Elkano | !c eu mannoroth isdirial |
| 16:34.49 | ThraeBot | Elkano: Isdirial, Level 70 Night Elf Druid (0/47/14). 9224 HP; 4475 Mana; 99 mana regen; 15 mp5; 4696 Armour; 106.3 Melee DPS; 8.83% melee crit; 14 melee hit; 145 defense; 18.76% dodge; [[ Link: http://tinyurl.com/ys48m7 ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/34zqtm ]] |
| 16:35.03 | Roartindon | [gk]Hotphoenix: Cool, hopefully we'll give him a shot this weekend sometime |
| 16:35.15 | snurre | !c eu dragonmaw capnaggro |
| 16:35.23 | [gk]Hotphoenix | the guild i'm in took it down in a nights attempts, took 2 hours total |
| 16:35.41 | Roartindon | [gk]Hotphoenix: Nice. We took down leo in under 2 hours, but got stuck on Vashj for a couple of days |
| 16:35.46 | Dustwhisper- | so did we |
| 16:35.47 | Roartindon | [gk]Hotphoenix: Haven't even tried solarian yet |
| 16:35.52 | Dustwhisper- | Al'ar went down first night in 7 tries or so |
| 16:35.58 | Dustwhisper- | VR went down in first night after 3 attempts or so |
| 16:36.11 | Dustwhisper- | Karathress went down in 4th or so aswell |
| 16:36.19 | Dustwhisper- | morogrim was a bitch though |
| 16:36.20 | [gk]Hotphoenix | if you can kill vash'j your more than able to kill solarian |
| 16:36.23 | Dustwhisper- | and leotheras took us two days |
| 16:36.34 | Dustwhisper- | We can't kill vashj yet |
| 16:36.39 | Roartindon | We got Al'ar pre-nerf.. back when he had a 2 yard hit box |
| 16:36.40 | Dustwhisper- | we got her to 6% second evening |
| 16:36.46 | Dustwhisper- | but third evening we couldnt clear phase 2 |
| 16:37.16 | cncfanatics | meh, we been stuck at gruul for weeks in this guild lol |
| 16:37.18 | cncfanatics | quite sad |
| 16:37.21 | Roartindon | Our guild has decent players, we just don't raid much. We were the top horde guild on our server pre-tbc, and have been top since, and we raid 2 days a week |
| 16:37.23 | cncfanatics | gruul 16% -.- |
| 16:37.32 | cncfanatics | wow Roartindon |
| 16:37.35 | cncfanatics | WTB |
| 16:37.37 | Dustwhisper- | Our guild has fantastic players but we also have a lot of spazzies |
| 16:37.41 | Roartindon | There's other horde guilds that raid 4-5 days a week and are behind |
| 16:37.43 | Dustwhisper- | and our biggest problem is the "we are pro" syndrome |
| 16:37.49 | Dustwhisper- | people think they are better than they are |
| 16:37.51 | Dustwhisper- | and never accept blame |
| 16:37.55 | Rccsv | cncfanatics, my guild killed him a few weeks ago but haven't been able to since. It's equally frustrating. |
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| 16:38.18 | Roartindon | I'm really happy with our guild at the moment - there's not one person I can think of that I'd immediately wish to replace |
| 16:38.28 | Dustwhisper- | we dont replace players |
| 16:38.30 | Dustwhisper- | we just recruit more |
| 16:38.31 | Dustwhisper- | which sucks |
| 16:38.40 | Elkano | Thrae, your bot fails on defense... it shows defense rating instead |
| 16:38.47 | art3mis | roar: what about gattsu? |
| 16:38.50 | Dustwhisper- | 10+ rogues, 10+ warlocks, 8-9 mages, 10-15 tanks of variating quality |
| 16:38.52 | Roartindon | Dustwhisper-: We don't replace often at all, but we're pretty darn picky on recruiting :) |
| 16:38.53 | art3mis | ;) |
| 16:38.57 | break19 | Dustwhisper-: I lean more towards the exact opposite of that.. if we cant drop a boss, its because I didnt dps hard enough... |
| 16:39.01 | Roartindon | Dustwhisper-: Wow.. that's a lot |
| 16:39.04 | Dustwhisper- | mate |
| 16:39.12 | cncfanatics | hmmm, whats the api function to pickup an item thats not in ur bagpack unto the cursor ? |
| 16:39.16 | Dustwhisper- | we do 4 karazhans in an evening now, i think we even did 5 or 6 one evening |
| 16:39.21 | Dustwhisper- | 2x gruul, 2x magtheridon |
| 16:39.28 | art3mis | roar: how are you guys doing progessionwise? |
| 16:39.30 | Roartindon | Dustwhisper-: We have 3 active mages in our guild. 3 warlocks, 4 warriors, 3 hunters, etc. |
| 16:39.33 | Dustwhisper- | another raid doing void reaver, lurker etc is coming up |
| 16:40.13 | Dustwhisper- | we have one semiactive hunter |
| 16:40.20 | Dustwhisper- | so one of our officers is dropping his priest alt |
| 16:40.22 | Dustwhisper- | and going back to his hunter |
| 16:40.39 | Dustwhisper- | which took a lot of talking for him to be allowed =D |
| 16:41.33 | Roartindon | art3mis: SSC clear, got Solarian + KT left in TK to go. |
| 16:41.34 | jme | Dustwhisper-: that's a big guild |
| 16:41.45 | Roartindon | Haven't even tried solarian |
| 16:41.54 | Roartindon | we called it an early night afte rkilling vashj with ~1 hour left |
| 16:42.25 | Roartindon | art3mis: gattsu has never been guilded, and hasn't run with us for.. years? |
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| 16:42.48 | Roartindon | art3mis: I think the last time gattsu ran with us was when MC was still "Endgame" |
| 16:43.14 | Roartindon | cncfanatics: gruul 16% at how many growths? |
| 16:43.52 | cncfanatics | ehm, twelve |
| 16:43.53 | Dustwhisper- | yes jme, 250 characters over 100 accounts |
| 16:43.57 | cncfanatics | then I got pawned by silence |
| 16:44.00 | jme | Dustwhisper-: :O |
| 16:44.12 | cncfanatics | 45% hp when silence starts is asking for trouble :( |
| 16:44.22 | jme | Dustwhisper-: tell me you're horde and on a US pvp server and want another hunter :) |
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| 16:44.41 | Roartindon | cncfanatics: That's where warrior's shield wall becomes the lifesaver |
| 16:44.52 | Elkano | 250/100 sounds like my guild |
| 16:44.54 | Roartindon | cncfanatics: They have an "oh shit" button for emergencies :) |
| 16:44.58 | jme | man |
| 16:45.03 | jme | where do you people find these big guilds |
| 16:45.08 | cncfanatics | Roartindon, if it happens a second time ur toast though |
| 16:45.28 | Roartindon | cncfanatics: Hopefully it doesn't happen twice in a single gruul fight..... |
| 16:45.48 | cncfanatics | Roartindon, u never know :p |
| 16:45.48 | Elkano | jme, it doesn't help... we still have problems forming a 25 person raid :/ |
| 16:45.50 | Roartindon | and if ti happens at low growths, you can probably survive it |
| 16:45.53 | cncfanatics | anyone, how can I pickup an item knowing its name ? |
| 16:46.09 | Roartindon | need more HoTs :) |
| 16:46.31 | Roartindon | And trade those apexis shards in for healing pots- makes it so cheap to be pot-happy in gruul's lair |
| 16:46.40 | cncfanatics | rather use ironshields |
| 16:47.00 | CIA-23 | 03kbranch * r45790 10GearDPS/ (Calculations.lua Core.lua GearDPS.toc Settings.lua): |
| 16:47.00 | CIA-23 | GearDPS: |
| 16:47.00 | CIA-23 | - Fixed a problem where some stats weren't being counted |
| 16:47.00 | CIA-23 | - Reverted to the old (higher) weighting of crit (and thus agi) |
| 16:47.00 | CIA-23 | - Split up the source into multiple files |
| 16:47.01 | CIA-23 | - Fixed a problem where StatLogic wasn't being used properly when running disembedded |
| 16:47.24 | jme | Elkano: ;( |
| 16:47.36 | jme | Elkano: we are having problems forming a friggin kara raid |
| 16:47.54 | jme | Elkano: one group has it on farm status and a lot of them don't need anything from it anymore, so it's hard to get other groups geared up |
| 16:47.57 | Elkano | we've got 3 groups for kara |
| 16:48.36 | cncfanatics | jme |
| 16:48.41 | cncfanatics | and they dont help out ? |
| 16:49.16 | jme | cncfanatics: they do, but they aren't always available every raid |
| 16:49.27 | Elkano | well, it's only a guild, why should they... ;( |
| 16:49.40 | cncfanatics | first, kara is quite fun imo |
| 16:49.56 | cncfanatics | and second, I hate dicks like that :p |
| 16:50.08 | jme | well, we started a second weekday group, and a late night group |
| 16:50.17 | jme | they need help badly.. they wiped like 4 times on maiden :X |
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| 16:50.19 | jme | and moroes |
| 16:50.25 | Antiarc|Work | http://www.news.com.au/story/0,23599,22194529-13762,00.html - mages, no. |
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| 16:50.49 | Awaa | Recount\Recount.lua:800:attempt to index field 'Fights' (a nil value) |
| 16:53.24 | Necrathex | "Haaksbergen near Utrecht" ? :S |
| 16:54.01 | Punkie` | Roartindon: You broke my default Aloft :( |
| 16:54.20 | cncfanatics | anyone used/use InfiniBar ? |
| 16:54.31 | Roartindon | Punkie`: Check the forums :) just reselect your health/mana options |
| 16:54.54 | Punkie` | but one of the tags is red and I didnt even set them! |
| 16:55.09 | Roartindon | Punkie`: They get set when you select health/mana display |
| 16:55.21 | Roartindon | eg. if you use health text -> smart, just click it to something else, then back again |
| 16:55.27 | jme | Cryect: dude, horde won av again last night |
| 16:55.32 | Punkie` | oh yeah cool |
| 16:55.35 | jme | Cryect: http://i14.tinypic.com/5xxodwy |
| 16:55.36 | Punkie` | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:56.06 | jme | i am only 11k from my boots |
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| 16:56.13 | jme | may as well grind that out tonight |
| 16:57.22 | Kody- | For anyone willing to brave the duration: http://www.curse.com/articles/details/2602/ full unedited WotLK presentation from BlizzCon :P |
| 16:57.34 | cncfanatics | cba :p |
| 16:58.29 | Cryect | horde won av like twice last night in games I was in |
| 16:58.39 | jme | yeah, same |
| 16:58.54 | Cryect | Awaa whoops I forgot to have it reset the fights |
| 16:58.58 | Cryect | or wait no |
| 16:59.01 | Cryect | Awaa restart wow |
| 16:59.12 | Cryect | there is a new file (fights.lua) |
| 17:00.42 | Cryect | jme: I only wish I got get badges for other bg's as easy as AV |
| 17:00.47 | Borked|Raider | we cant enter raid instance, no matter what we do it says its heroric :( |
| 17:00.53 | Cryect | was planning to get belt then was like shit only have 2 ab tokens on this alt |
| 17:00.53 | jme | Cryect: :( |
| 17:01.02 | jme | Cryect: oops |
| 17:01.10 | jme | i have 50 ab tokens saved up |
| 17:01.11 | Cryect | forgot my alt isn't like cryect maxed on all them :-p |
| 17:01.21 | jme | and 50 eots.. and 30 or so av |
| 17:01.29 | jme | what's the max? |
| 17:01.34 | durcyn | 100 |
| 17:01.34 | Cryect | 100 |
| 17:01.38 | jme | ahh |
| 17:01.47 | Cryect | then your mailbox gets spammed |
| 17:02.05 | jme | "plz spend these kthx" |
| 17:02.57 | Roartindon | jme: I have 100 of eots, wsg, ab, and av... and no idea what to spend them on |
| 17:03.10 | Roartindon | I convert them to mana pots, then let the others expire in my inbox |
| 17:03.34 | jme | Roartindon: aww |
| 17:03.40 | jme | Roartindon: do you have all the veterans gear? |
| 17:04.17 | Roartindon | jme: Nope, I had a look and they didn't seem like upgrades.. I'm not a heavy pvper, so I don't really count resilience |
| 17:04.29 | jme | Roartindon: ah. |
| 17:04.41 | CIA-23 | 03adirelle * r45791 10CastYeller/ (7 files): |
| 17:04.41 | CIA-23 | CastYeller: |
| 17:04.41 | CIA-23 | - added deDE localization (thanks to Carylon), |
| 17:04.41 | CIA-23 | - moved locales in their own files. |
| 17:04.49 | Roartindon | brb |
| 17:05.11 | Borked|Raider | but omg this sucks |
| 17:05.29 | Borked|Raider | 25man stnading doing nothing because it wont let us in because its saying heroric |
| 17:05.59 | xb95 | lol, sounds like your leader's a nub |
| 17:06.06 | phyber | raid leader being a tard and not choosing normal difficulty? |
| 17:07.29 | Borked|Raider | i am the leader |
| 17:07.33 | Borked|Raider | and i am not a noob |
| 17:07.54 | Borked|Raider | have set it for all 3 normal, heroric and epic. Its saying cant enter because of heroric no matter what its on |
| 17:08.01 | cncfanatics | Borked6Raider, disband and reform raid |
| 17:08.05 | Borked|Raider | tryed with the API commands also |
| 17:08.07 | Cryect | yeah its a bug |
| 17:08.09 | Borked|Raider | we have try making 20 raids now |
| 17:08.12 | cncfanatics | haha |
| 17:08.14 | Cryect | you have to restart |
| 17:08.15 | Borked|Raider | and its the same |
| 17:08.15 | cncfanatics | poor u :( |
| 17:08.21 | Borked|Raider | we have restarted the game |
| 17:08.23 | Cryect | we had that happen once |
| 17:08.28 | Cryect | did you have a new player start the raid |
| 17:08.32 | Cryect | who hasn't been tainted by you guys |
| 17:08.38 | Borked|Raider | also tryed |
| 17:09.25 | Borked|Raider | but ...... blizzad suck donkey dick |
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| 17:11.28 | phyber | ouch, that sucks :) |
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| 17:13.17 | sb | hm is 369 resistance cap? |
| 17:13.59 | ramoz | Cryect: new error Recount.lua:800: attempt to locate index field 'Fight' (a index nil) |
| 17:14.14 | CIA-23 | 03karls * r45792 10DKPmon_EPGP/ (epgp.lua example.lua): |
| 17:14.14 | CIA-23 | DKPmon_EPGP: |
| 17:14.14 | CIA-23 | - Added more drops to example.lua's prefabbed GP costs |
| 17:14.14 | CIA-23 | - Manually forcing a bid now adds this as a need bid, rather than not functioning at all as was previously the case. |
| 17:14.45 | Borked|Raider | worked by zoning into another raid instance |
| 17:14.49 | Borked|Raider | or heroric isntance |
| 17:15.05 | jme | Borked|Raider: weird |
| 17:15.23 | Cryect | ramoz restart wow |
| 17:16.06 | ramoz | ok |
| 17:16.34 | Elkano | did I read that right? we are getting unique mob identifiers in the 2.4 combat log? <3 |
| 17:16.41 | jme | :O |
| 17:17.04 | cncfanatics | Elkano, we are ? |
| 17:17.11 | cncfanatics | now WTB some other API stuff thats irritating |
| 17:17.37 | Elkano | according to cogwheel it was mentioned in UI panel Q&A -> http://youtube.com/profile_videos?user=duncor&p=r |
| 17:17.39 | Awaa | Tehy are remaking Combatlog to an event system thingy |
| 17:17.52 | cncfanatics | Roartindon |
| 17:17.53 | Amadeo | that stuff is a long way away |
| 17:17.53 | Elkano | wrong link... http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=711998742&sid=1 |
| 17:18.04 | Roartindon | cncfanatics: yes? |
| 17:18.09 | Elkano | 2.4 ... maybe xmas |
| 17:18.21 | cncfanatics | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=102909678&sid=1&pageNo=9, could you answer to that warlock thats exactly what I need :p |
| 17:18.26 | Amadeo | Elkano: Is 2.4 coming with the expansion, or without? |
| 17:18.37 | cncfanatics | damn US forums |
| 17:18.38 | jme | expansion will be 3.0, no? |
| 17:18.44 | cncfanatics | expansion 3.0 prolly |
| 17:18.51 | Amadeo | I see |
| 17:19.19 | Elkano | Amadeo, even if I would be from Blizzard I couldn't tell ;) |
| 17:19.23 | Amadeo | hehe |
| 17:19.42 | Amadeo | My prediction is 3.0/expansion is here when Warhammer is released :P |
| 17:19.53 | cncfanatics | exactly |
| 17:20.00 | cncfanatics | wont stop me from going to warhammer though |
| 17:20.06 | stavmar_ | sound pretty accurate |
| 17:20.13 | Elkano | if warhammer doesn't stop you ;) |
| 17:20.52 | jme | someone in my guild has been playing his friend's warhammer beta account |
| 17:20.53 | Amadeo | Thrae said that Warhammer was using Lua for the interface |
| 17:20.57 | Amadeo | which is pretty cool |
| 17:21.49 | Roartindon | cncfanatics: Blah, it's rejecting my login on the forums now. |
| 17:22.07 | cncfanatics | Roartindon, closing browsers & then going there again usualy works |
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| 17:22.58 | Roartindon | cncfanatics: done, posted |
| 17:23.52 | jme | wonder what i should look for for a 2v2 |
| 17:24.01 | jme | !ap 1465 |
| 17:24.01 | ThraeBot | jme: Arena points from a rating of 1465 is, 2v2: 253, 3v3: 290, 5v5: 362 |
| 17:24.12 | jme | !ar 1700 |
| 17:24.13 | ThraeBot | jme: Points given is above the threshold for conversion. Try a different number. Or perhaps you meant to convert ratings to points? Either way, you fail at life. |
| 17:24.27 | jme | !ap 1700 |
| 17:24.27 | ThraeBot | jme: Arena points from a rating of 1700 is, 2v2: 436, 3v3: 498, 5v5: 623 |
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| 17:25.31 | cncfanatics | Roartindon, cheers again :) |
| 17:25.41 | Roartindon | cncfanatics: np |
| 17:25.46 | Awaa | Cryect, still getting the nil error at end of combat. have restarted wow. |
| 17:25.47 | Amadeo | I need a Hunter BM spec |
| 17:26.14 | jme | Amadeo: standard BM/MM is 41 into BM and 20 into MM to get mortal shots |
| 17:26.20 | jme | 41 into BM to get beast within |
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| 17:26.52 | Amadeo | I know, but that doesn't help me, because I've never had one before |
| 17:26.54 | Amadeo | lol |
| 17:26.56 | jme | hmm |
| 17:27.08 | jme | Amadeo: are you looking for highest dps? |
| 17:27.17 | Amadeo | I'm looking for leveling at the moment :) |
| 17:27.22 | jme | oh |
| 17:27.24 | Amadeo | fast as I can! |
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| 17:27.41 | Amadeo | ckknight: You missed your friend again last night |
| 17:27.56 | ckknight | ? |
| 17:28.01 | Amadeo | phirefly or whatever |
| 17:28.01 | Amadeo | haha |
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| 17:28.34 | hypetech | are transcriptions still needed for the lurker fight for bigwigs? |
| 17:29.19 | jme | Amadeo: http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=mxbG0xxRVkAoVVbRV |
| 17:29.22 | jme | Amadeo: try that one |
| 17:30.50 | Amadeo | thank ya |
| 17:30.58 | jme | no prob |
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| 17:33.52 | Amadeo | Who was the Hunter in MoB Gaming? |
| 17:34.08 | hypetech | anybody know if frost mages have issues on lurker? I see guides that mention using iceblock during the spout, so I'm assuming the spec is okay to use in there |
| 17:34.36 | Dustwhisper- | it is okay |
| 17:34.42 | Dustwhisper- | of course not as good damage as fire |
| 17:35.37 | hypetech | right, but that's universal :p not just lurker |
| 17:35.53 | hypetech | just wanted to make sure he didn't have an active resistance to frost |
| 17:36.07 | Dustwhisper- | not that i know of |
| 17:36.13 | Dustwhisper- | hydross though is another story =D |
| 17:36.18 | hypetech | ya |
| 17:36.19 | hypetech | :) |
| 17:36.24 | hypetech | hydross I've done |
| 17:37.04 | hypetech | my frost gear is just so much better than my fire gear atm, almost have the mats for my spellfire set though, I'm crafting all 3 pieces at once so I don't have to keep switching back and forth |
| 17:37.13 | Dustwhisper- | self:RegisterParserEvent( { eventType = "Cast" }, "ParseCastEvent" ) for some reason ParseCastEvent is never called nomatter how many casts i do |
| 17:37.14 | Dustwhisper- | >_< |
| 17:37.37 | CIA-23 | 03cryect * r45793 10Recount/Recount.lua: Recount - Upgrades data version to reset fight data |
| 17:38.28 | Roartindon | hypetech: Shouldn't be any issues with frost on lurker at all |
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| 17:40.42 | hamunaptra | where could i find docu on babble? besides going through the lib myself... |
| 17:41.21 | Elkano | tryed the wiki? |
| 17:41.42 | cncfanatics | wiki is empty unfortunatly |
| 17:41.45 | hamunaptra | jup... nothing there (at least not easily findable by me...) |
| 17:41.49 | jme | Amadeo: i'm not sure, because the news site i got that info from is down now |
| 17:41.54 | jme | Amadeo: http://www.gameriot.com/news/4125/MoB-First-Ever-Arena-World-Champions/ |
| 17:41.57 | cncfanatics | but its mostly localization, so I dont see why u couldnt just use the AceLocale docu |
| 17:42.07 | jme | Amadeo: but the team was from Korgath, and originally from Stormreaver (my server) |
| 17:42.13 | Elkano | http://www.wowace.com/wiki/Babble-2.2 |
| 17:42.26 | hamunaptra | because i do not want to create my own list of all spells... |
| 17:42.35 | hamunaptra | that would be redundant (I hope) |
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| 17:43.08 | jme | Amadeo: http://www.gameriot.com/print/news/4125 |
| 17:45.40 | hypetech | Is Buffalo still having issues with showing the wrong buffs in the wrong spots? |
| 17:46.12 | CIA-23 | 03mecdemort * r45794 10Scaffold/Core.lua: |
| 17:46.12 | CIA-23 | Scaffold: |
| 17:46.12 | CIA-23 | - Accidentally nuked Niagara config. Removed duplicate frame and texture generation on disable/enable. Added blend mode. |
| 17:46.43 | jme | Amadeo: http://mobgaming.net/forum/showthread.php?t=1087 |
| 17:48.35 | CIA-23 | 03eraslin * r45795 10DKPmon/Localization/deDE.lua: DKPmon: Fixed to deDE locale. |
| 17:48.48 | CIA-23 | 03eraslin * r45796 10Bidder/Localization/deDE.lua: Bidder: Fixed to deDE locale. |
| 17:49.54 | Saroz | give SVN changelog fgs :| |
| 17:50.08 | Awaa | Cryect, r45793 didnt fix it for me, did reinstall Recount compleatly. |
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| 17:52.45 | kergoth | what's scaffold? |
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| 17:55.39 | NeoTron | 1% al'ar last night |
| 17:55.52 | CIA-23 | 03hamunaptra * r45797 10fmBuffCheck/: |
| 17:55.52 | CIA-23 | fmBuffCheck: |
| 17:55.52 | CIA-23 | - added Babble-Spell-2.2 |
| 17:55.53 | NeoTron | 2nd time we've gotten to phase 2.. so phase 2 seems pretty ezmode |
| 18:01.10 | Dustwhisper- | kergoth what builders, painters etc use when they work on the outside of a building |
| 18:01.17 | kergoth | thanks :P |
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| 18:03.06 | Kemayo | Is there an acknowledged "best" bag-mod-with-categories at the moment? |
| 18:03.37 | Dustwhisper- | i prefer baggins tbh |
| 18:04.17 | jme | i just don't use one... the only things i keep in my bags are bullets, water, bandages, and food for my pet :( |
| 18:04.41 | Saroz | Punkie`, trac aint working either |
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| 18:05.31 | kergoth | i like baggins, but it's overkill for me, i'll never need that degree of control. arkinventory is my preferred nowadays |
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| 18:07.39 | Pkekyo | what is the command to bring up ora2? |
| 18:07.48 | kergoth | "bring up"? |
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| 18:08.25 | Pkekyo | open the config or wth |
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| 18:10.57 | Pkekyo | anyone know? |
| 18:11.03 | hamunaptra | ckknight: short question: i'm using babble-spell-2.2 and do a BS.reverse["Machtwort: Seelenstärke"] (the string is taken from the game tooltip). It says "no tranlation for... found", although it is in the babble-spell-2.2.lua... any hints? |
| 18:11.37 | ckknight | no idea, should work. |
| 18:11.37 | Pkekyo | how to open the ora2 config? |
| 18:11.56 | hamunaptra | doesn't though... could it be because of the UTF-8 stuff? |
| 18:12.01 | ramoz | Cryect: still get the error |
| 18:12.17 | Boubouille | http://www.youtube.com/jp.swf?video_id=fcbazH6aE2g&eurl=&iurl=http%3A//img.youtube.com/vi/fcbazH6aE2g/default.jpg&t=OEgsToPDskJWgLUVYtoTtHxcT10y5pph |
| 18:12.30 | durcyn | Pkekyo: there's no gui config window unless you use something like Niagara. activate it then right-click on the fubar/minimap button for a dewdrop. |
| 18:17.01 | hamunaptra | ckknight: is there a way to catch the "translation... not found" error before it is thrown? |
| 18:18.20 | Roartindon | hamunaptra: Do a HasReverseTranslation() check? |
| 18:20.02 | hamunaptra | roa: as documentation does not exist: I guess so^^ |
| 18:20.54 | Roartindon | hamunaptra: Ah, it used to, but there was a lot lost a month ago |
| 18:21.07 | stavmar | Boubouille: that is funny and very sick at the same time |
| 18:21.13 | Boubouille | yeah. |
| 18:21.14 | Boubouille | ^^ |
| 18:21.41 | hamunaptra | unfortunately, i'm "younger" than that *grin*... ok, so this should work, right: local reve = HasReverseTranslation(name) and B.reverse[name] or "[none]" |
| 18:22.25 | Roartindon | BS:HasReverseTranslation(name) and BS:GetReverseTranslation(name) or "[None]" |
| 18:22.50 | Roartindon | You shouldn't access .reverse directly |
| 18:23.04 | hamunaptra | duh.. ok... got that from cartographer though^^ |
| 18:23.47 | hamunaptra | (the .reverse part) |
| 18:23.59 | Roartindon | which module in cartographer has that?! |
| 18:24.02 | CIA-23 | 03evilelvis * r45798 10eePanels/ (core.lua eePanels.toc localization.enUS.lua): eePanels: fix for nested parents. For realz this time. |
| 18:24.30 | hamunaptra | cartographer itself (the main module) |
| 18:24.46 | hamunaptra | used for BZ.reverse (the lookup of zones) |
| 18:26.01 | Dustwhisper- | any damagemeter/omenfeature that shows how much threat someone generated with each spell ? |
| 18:26.04 | hamunaptra | hm... @roar: the line works, but no translations are found ever (for german spell names that I feed it) |
| 18:26.37 | Roartindon | hamunaptra: You're using local BS = AceLibrary("Babble-Spell-2.2") ? |
| 18:26.53 | hamunaptra | jup |
| 18:27.34 | hamunaptra | actually, i'm using: local B = AceLibrary("Babble-Zone-2.2") |
| 18:27.44 | Roartindon | IF you want spells, you need Babble-Spell |
| 18:27.47 | hamunaptra | duh... ok... slap me... :( |
| 18:27.47 | Roartindon | not Babble-Zone |
| 18:28.15 | hamunaptra | that's not even installed... *turning bright red* |
| 18:28.51 | ulic | :) |
| 18:28.56 | hamunaptra | autsch |
| 18:29.34 | hamunaptra | it's amazing how it works as soon as you do it right... *sigh* |
| 18:31.24 | ulic | we all have those moments :) |
| 18:31.55 | jme | i had a php bug at work one morning that took me until 4:45 to fix |
| 18:32.19 | jme | very frustrating, especially when i realized how simple the fix was |
| 18:33.29 | Arrowmaster | Boubouille: are you using something completely custom or an SMF module for the item tooltips on mmo-champion? |
| 18:34.35 | hamunaptra | well, i used a variable called "type" the other day and suddently the interface started to completely die on me... was fun.. |
| 18:35.06 | jme | lol |
| 18:35.07 | hamunaptra | (100% cpu) |
| 18:35.35 | kergoth | wouldnt have crashed if your 'type' was a local like it should be :P |
| 18:35.44 | Boubouille | Arrowmaster : completely custom |
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| 18:36.07 | Gamefaq | hi |
| 18:36.09 | Boubouille | huh |
| 18:36.13 | Boubouille | I guess I got linked somewhere |
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| 18:36.51 | Roartindon | kergoth: any idea if it's possible to detect instant casts by party members somehow? |
| 18:36.52 | Arrowmaster | damn was hoping it was an smf module even if custom, afaik theres only one smf module for wow itemlinks and it uses alla for tooltips =( |
| 18:37.07 | kergoth | hmm, not that i know of |
| 18:37.11 | Roartindon | kergoth: I'm trying to detect when eg. Earth Shield is cast from group member A on group member B |
| 18:37.16 | Boubouille | wait, Bibi will save the day Arrowmaster ! |
| 18:37.26 | Boubouille | http://forums.eqdkp.com/index.php?showtopic=9342 ! |
| 18:37.27 | Boubouille | boom ! |
| 18:37.39 | jme | "We are considering going back to Naxx when we get to Northrend" |
| 18:37.44 | jme | what do they mean by that? |
| 18:38.03 | kebinusan | patchwerk still wants to play |
| 18:38.15 | Matrix110 | Ashbringer jme! |
| 18:38.21 | jme | ah |
| 18:38.50 | hamunaptra | arrowmaster: do a google search on itemstats extended, it uses various german and english sources... and can be integrated in joomla and smf |
| 18:39.29 | Arrowmaster | still need to convince GM to use SMF over phpBB |
| 18:39.45 | hamunaptra | also integrates with phpbb :) and eqdkp |
| 18:40.21 | Elkano | I used to use that until I wrote my own for the armory... chinese tooltips \o/ |
| 18:40.54 | Dustwhisper- | anyone here have any experience operating WWS Client etc? |
| 18:41.19 | RaydenUni | **Fear ward will finally be spread around in the expansion** <-- ? |
| 18:41.22 | RaydenUni | what does that mean? |
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| 18:41.30 | Roartindon | RaydenUni: It means all alliance priests will be able to cast it |
| 18:41.32 | Arrowmaster | it means horde with fearward |
| 18:41.35 | jme | horde priests get fear ward, iirc |
| 18:41.42 | RaydenUni | Roartindon but not horde? |
| 18:41.49 | Roartindon | RaydenUni: That was tongue in cheek |
| 18:41.56 | RaydenUni | so it's becoming a class skill not a racial skill? |
| 18:42.48 | hamunaptra | all priests are going to get it.. is will be class based instead of racial (according to blizz) |
| 18:42.51 | ckknight | RaydenUni: they should've done that a while ago |
| 18:43.00 | RaydenUni | yay |
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| 18:43.19 | baer_ | hi |
| 18:43.34 | hamunaptra | i threw a fit when i had my priest at 50 and people told me to reroll a dwarf for ony... (still got my human priest...) |
| 18:43.38 | baer_ | is there any option for turning off pitbull while being in raid/b groups? |
| 18:43.59 | Roartindon | baer_: Don't enable raid frames? |
| 18:44.03 | Mudkipz | gah |
| 18:44.12 | baer_ | Roartindon: how? |
| 18:44.13 | Mudkipz | what's wrong with my game... it takes forever for my character model to load |
| 18:44.34 | Roartindon | baer_: PitBull -> Raid Frames -> disable/toggle/enable/whatever the option is called |
| 18:45.45 | baer_ | Roartindon, many thanks, i was really missing this thing. |
| 18:46.07 | hamunaptra | is there a way to get NON localized tooltips? |
| 18:46.40 | RaydenUni | is item rack a competitor to closetgnome? |
| 18:47.40 | Chompers | only 1 death on maulgar this week |
| 18:47.52 | Chompers | the same shadow priest that dies every week |
| 18:48.05 | Arrowmaster | lol |
| 18:48.08 | Chompers | he's cursed, i'm sure of it |
| 18:48.17 | durcyn | probably just stupid |
| 18:48.25 | jme | Chompers: we have a shadow priest that dies at least 5 times every time he does kara |
| 18:48.33 | RaydenUni | maulgar? |
| 18:48.36 | Mudkipz | same goes for our enchancement shamans |
| 18:48.39 | Mudkipz | they just love to die |
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| 18:49.07 | Arrowmaster | we have shadow priests that kill themselves on curator netherspite and prince |
| 18:49.12 | RaydenUni | ItemRackFu, does that require you have ItemRack? |
| 18:49.41 | jme | probably |
| 18:49.44 | Roartindon | RaydenUni: yes |
| 18:49.56 | RaydenUni | itemrack is sort of like closetgnome? |
| 18:50.07 | Matrix110 | yes |
| 18:50.16 | Amadeo | but without vhaarr goodness |
| 18:50.37 | RaydenUni | vhaar? |
| 18:51.00 | RaydenUni | itemrack looked like it had some more menus to make it easier |
| 18:51.10 | RaydenUni | closetgnome works, but the interface is lacking i think |
| 18:54.01 | Amadeo | I don't use either since I don't have any gear sets, but to each their own :) |
| 18:54.16 | RaydenUni | i gotta keep a shadow set and a healing set for my priest |
| 18:54.26 | RaydenUni | also i swap my carrot on a stick when i mount and dismount |
| 18:54.43 | jme | to all you fury warriors out there that pvp |
| 18:54.47 | jme | don't fear hunters |
| 18:55.03 | Amadeo | Fury Warriors don't PvP |
| 18:55.07 | Amadeo | unless they're bored :P |
| 18:55.09 | jme | err, arms/fury whatever |
| 18:55.16 | Amadeo | hehe |
| 18:55.27 | jme | i ran into this warrior solo in AV last night on the road.. fought him, couldn't get ranged until he feared me, then it was over :) |
| 18:55.39 | jme | so yeah. |
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| 18:55.52 | jme | it was like "hi, here's some range so you can shoot me" |
| 18:56.38 | Amadeo | Did he target your pet and shout, or target you so you just stood there until he hit you and broke it? |
| 18:57.02 | break19 | he was prolly targetting the pet without realizing |
| 18:57.11 | Amadeo | usually it's a good idea to target the pet |
| 18:57.22 | Amadeo | but if jme used his trinket, that would have screwed him up |
| 18:57.31 | Gamefaq | RaydenUni: closetgnome is easy to use and simply works like it should, i changed from Outfitter to it because Outfitter got more and more Outfitoptions but with them came Lags for me and the memorry use went crazy after some Versionupdate |
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| 18:57.38 | jme | my trinket was on CD |
| 18:57.43 | RaydenUni | hmm |
| 18:57.54 | RaydenUni | i just downloaded baggins, i'm going to try that with closetgnome for a while |
| 18:58.01 | durcyn | egads, someone teach the europeans how to use spaces between words |
| 18:58.07 | RaydenUni | i think the hassle of switching to itemrack will keep me on closetgnome for a while |
| 18:58.10 | CIA-23 | 03ulic * r45799 10LittleWigs/HellfireCitadel/Omor.lua: LittleWigs: HellfireCitadel/Omor - Fix for the Aura in both Heroic and Normal, all translations will need to be updated. |
| 18:58.33 | Amadeo | Usually when I fight a Hunter, I just taunt the pet so it breaks Freezing Trap and then I don't have too many problems unless they really outgear me |
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| 19:00.38 | Mellow_ | anybody familiar with rrdtool? |
| 19:02.39 | jme | Amadeo: lol, the warrior outgeared me, i don't know what the deal was |
| 19:02.45 | Dustwhisper- | LOL |
| 19:02.49 | Arrowmaster | Mellow_, i used to but i've gota leave and go uptown to pay the water bill |
| 19:02.52 | Dustwhisper- | whole guild+raid forced to move to Omen |
| 19:02.58 | Dustwhisper- | and our MT isnt showing |
| 19:02.58 | Dustwhisper- | gege |
| 19:03.12 | Mellow_ | Arrowmaster: np, ping when you back |
| 19:04.50 | RaydenUni | you don't really need the MT to show up though |
| 19:05.14 | Amadeo | jme: You may just be a better player than he was :) |
| 19:05.29 | jme | Amadeo: maybe :/ |
| 19:05.45 | jme | he must have been unlucky with the crits |
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| 19:05.52 | jme | because i ran into another warrior later and was dead in 5 seconds |
| 19:06.17 | jme | we had enough time to /rofl at each other before he killed me |
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| 19:07.27 | Amadeo | lol |
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| 19:07.43 | *** mode/#wowace [+o ckknight] by ChanServ |
| 19:09.42 | Mudkipz | who uses wau 2.0? |
| 19:11.13 | Hjalte | Can I have wau 2 redownload my addons without externals? |
| 19:11.59 | Hjalte | Oh.. I see that it downloads from no-externals from default. Can I have it redownload all my addons then? |
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| 19:12.17 | Awaa | XLoot\XLoot.lua:550: Usage: GetItemInfo(itemID|"name"|"itemlink") |
| 19:12.36 | Chompers | what's the command to see when someone last spoke? |
| 19:12.45 | Chompers | want to see when Antiarc was last talking |
| 19:13.09 | NightHawkAtWork | ~seen Antiarc |
| 19:13.30 | purl | antiarc is currently on #wowi-lounge (2d 10h 53m 20s) #wowace (2d 10h 53m 20s). Has said a total of 1 messages. Is idling for 2d 9h 55m 21s, last said: 'Wait, we're getting unique mob IDs?'. |
| 19:13.53 | Chompers | ~seen Antiarc|Work |
| 19:13.54 | purl | antiarc|work is currently on #wowi-lounge (3d 3h 29m 59s) #wowace (3d 3h 29m 59s). Has said a total of 211 messages. Is idling for 51m 27s, last said: 'Generally though, casters don't hang out in melee range.'. |
| 19:14.46 | Arrowmaster | god damn why the fuck is my subwoofer so damn hot when i dont even have any sounds going |
| 19:14.50 | Chompers | Antiarc: can you add a filter to Omen to filter out Pets? |
| 19:15.46 | Arrowmaster | Mellow_: back |
| 19:16.03 | Gnarfoz | Arrowmaster: is it some kind of sound system? or just a sub |
| 19:16.03 | CIA-23 | 03gamefaq * r45800 10WitchHunt/ (WitchHunt.toc locales/deDE.lua): WitchHunt: Added deDE Translation |
| 19:16.03 | Mellow_ | hey |
| 19:16.19 | Mellow_ | may i disturb you in pm or shall i ask it here? |
| 19:16.25 | Arrowmaster | Gnarfoz: 6.1 system |
| 19:16.32 | Arrowmaster | pm is fine |
| 19:16.41 | Gnarfoz | Arrowmaster: I'd guess it has the entire amplification and stuff somewhere in it |
| 19:16.46 | Gnarfoz | that'd be your heat source ^^ |
| 19:17.04 | Arrowmaster | yeah but i have 0 sound at all going on right now and havent for hours |
| 19:17.12 | Gnarfoz | sound systems are not wow addons |
| 19:17.25 | Gnarfoz | they will run and consume power and create some heat, in idle ;} |
| 19:17.42 | Arrowmaster | bah |
| 19:18.20 | Arrowmaster | and i have mine stuffed into a corner under my desk with my computer case in the other corner |
| 19:18.25 | Arrowmaster | i wish my legs would stop sweating |
| 19:19.46 | Antiarc|Work | Chompers: Hrm. I guess I could |
| 19:20.32 | Athou | Roartindon: ping |
| 19:20.40 | Roartindon | Athou: pong |
| 19:20.41 | Dustwhisper- | Antiarc |
| 19:20.41 | Dustwhisper- | [2007/08/06 20:55:14-706-x9]: Recount-$Revision: 45793 $\Recount.lua:800: attempt to index field 'Fights' (a nil value) |
| 19:20.52 | Roartindon | Dustwhisper-: That's Cryect, not Antiarc |
| 19:21.00 | Dustwhisper- | ehm ye |
| 19:21.02 | Dustwhisper- | Cryect i mean |
| 19:21.03 | Dustwhisper- | lol =D |
| 19:21.17 | Dustwhisper- | was fidling with an omen bug 5 mins ago aswell so i was on an antiarc thought =D |
| 19:21.24 | Athou | i'm getting a !!Tag Error!! instead of health %age on my nameplates since this afternoon |
| 19:21.32 | Roartindon | Athou: http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=5618.msg127762#msg127762 |
| 19:21.46 | Roartindon | Athou: Just go to health text -> select something different, select it back to what you had before |
| 19:22.02 | Athou | ok thanks |
| 19:24.54 | Athou | worked like a charme thanks :) |
| 19:25.35 | Athou | charm* |
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| 19:32.00 | JonathanDavis | hello, anyone here not busy that could help me with mount macros? |
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| 19:33.57 | stavmar | what is a reccomended mod to see the banks of my alts while on my main? |
| 19:34.50 | CIA-23 | 03adirelle * r45801 10CastYeller/CastYeller.lua: CastYeller: drycoding sometimes fails. |
| 19:34.52 | charon | mh... any melee dps around who could tell me what to do in leotheras final (<15%) phase? |
| 19:35.20 | Mudkipz | dont dit |
| 19:35.21 | Mudkipz | die* |
| 19:35.29 | JonathanDavis | >_< |
| 19:35.33 | JonathanDavis | trying to find a random mount macro |
| 19:35.47 | charon | ha ha very funny... no seriously |
| 19:35.52 | Roartindon | charon: Just dps leo as usual, ignore the image |
| 19:36.00 | charon | i know that too |
| 19:36.01 | kebinusan | yeah dont die is good |
| 19:36.14 | kebinusan | best thing you can do is convince your dps its not a zerg |
| 19:36.22 | kebinusan | so they dont get careless with the whirlwinds and whatnot |
| 19:36.27 | charon | now tell me how to get around the fact he does whirlwind for 2k-ish every few seconds plus the dot like half the time |
| 19:36.47 | charon | so you just run out like usual, then back up to him? |
| 19:36.50 | Roartindon | charon: run in after whirlwinds, you have a small window to attack before he does the next one |
| 19:37.04 | Dustwhisper- | man when did bigwigs get the big and annoying text |
| 19:37.14 | charon | ok will try thanks |
| 19:37.18 | Arrowmaster | what big and annoying text? |
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| 19:37.36 | Mudkipz | lol charon I was being serious |
| 19:38.03 | Dustwhisper- | oh it just reset the old text |
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| 19:40.07 | Hjalte | Sinklib > Soarlib, yeah? |
| 19:40.20 | kergoth | Hjalte, yep |
| 19:40.53 | Hjalte | phyber, ping |
| 19:41.50 | phyber | Hjalte: pong |
| 19:42.48 | Hjalte | phyber, i've just updated my addons to use libs i download to my addons folder. Is it possible that topscorefu could be updated to use sinklib, instead of soarlib, which from my understanding does almost the same? :) |
| 19:43.14 | phyber | I was looking at it, it shall be done at some point, :) |
| 19:43.26 | phyber | as soon as I rework the menus, I guess. |
| 19:44.01 | Ominous | god i hate the infernels at prince m in kara |
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| 19:45.27 | Hjalte | phyber, any plans on doing something against recording unormally high hits like at the first boss in heroic mechanar? |
| 19:45.38 | Hjalte | Maybe seperating them or something |
| 19:47.39 | Hjalte | ckknight, does this mean anything to you? http://ace.pastey.net/71878 Got it when logging in. |
| 19:47.49 | Hjalte | and being dead btw |
| 19:49.14 | phyber | Hjalte: it already does that. |
| 19:49.33 | phyber | in the filter menu, look for "Ignore Vulnerable Mobs" |
| 19:50.16 | CIA-23 | 03ulic * r45802 10LittleWigs/HellfireCitadel/Omor.lua: LittleWigs: HC\Omor - Removed testing code |
| 19:50.39 | Hjalte | phyber, ah, yeah, sorry for not seeing that before. Thanks! |
| 19:50.47 | phyber | np :) |
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| 19:54.04 | Dustwhisper- | Anyone noticed some weird omen data ? Everyone upgraded to omen now instead of KTM, a couple might still be running KTM still 3 people have pulled aggro of tank on trash at 80% now |
| 19:55.13 | Mudkipz | that's a biggest problem we have right now with omen |
| 19:55.18 | Mudkipz | people who don't update |
| 19:56.17 | Antiarc|Work | Dustwhisper-: Are there two mobs in the trash pulls with the same name? |
| 19:56.41 | Dustwhisper- | yes |
| 19:56.48 | Chompers | Antiarc! |
| 19:56.53 | Chompers | you're here! |
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| 19:57.25 | Antiarc|Work | Ja |
| 19:57.35 | Dustwhisper- | but it was targeting the mob tanked by that tanked |
| 19:57.55 | flexom | Mudkipz: get them wau netinstall and make them use it before each raid;) those that don't...kick from raid until they fix it^^ rough, but effective;) |
| 19:58.34 | Antiarc|Work | Err. What? |
| 19:58.54 | CIA-23 | 03strange * r45803 10Furious-2.1/ (Furious-2.1.toc FuriousGuild.lua): |
| 19:58.54 | CIA-23 | Furious-2.1: |
| 19:58.54 | CIA-23 | - added a TOC finally |
| 19:58.54 | CIA-23 | - FuriousGuild.lua: added support for mains/alts in guild notes. Please see the wiki for instructions on use. |
| 20:01.34 | CIA-23 | 03strange * r45804 10FuriousRaid/ (FuriousRaid.lua FuriousRaid.toc ProSet.lua): |
| 20:01.34 | CIA-23 | FuriousRaid: |
| 20:01.34 | CIA-23 | - updated to take advantage of the main/alt support in Furious-2.1. Now points are added/substracted from the main always. |
| 20:01.38 | Mudkipz | Tinyboom, easier said than done with a GM we had to badger to get Omen since hes also MT |
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| 20:02.15 | CIA-23 | 03strange * r45805 10FuriousTask/FuriousTask.toc: |
| 20:02.15 | CIA-23 | FuriousTask: |
| 20:02.15 | CIA-23 | - updated externals |
| 20:03.00 | CIA-23 | 03strange * r45806 10FuriousWaitlist/ (FuriousWaitlist.lua FuriousWaitlist.toc): |
| 20:03.00 | CIA-23 | FuriousWaitlist: |
| 20:03.00 | CIA-23 | - updated to take advantage of the main/alt support in Furious-2.1 |
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| 20:10.26 | mitch1 | antiarc: do you have time to look at my Omen:Toggle() fix? |
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| 20:13.45 | Pkekyo | is it dispell or decurse that's needed on the Maiden fight in kara? |
| 20:14.14 | Saroz_ | dispell |
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| 20:15.37 | jme | hate slow mondays |
| 20:16.35 | Dustwhisper- | So anyone know how to get out a specific fight at a specific date and time from combatlog with WWS ? |
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| 20:18.23 | liquiem | hello, anyone using assessment and experience lag/freeze after a bosskill? 5min ago we killed illidan and i just had 10-15sec of freeze (reset all data before fight started) |
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| 20:20.19 | Antiarc|Work | Dustwhisper-: Generate the WWS report and then use the dropdown menu? |
| 20:20.44 | Antiarc|Work | mitch1: I've barely had any WoW time lately. I'm sorry :( |
| 20:20.51 | Chompers | Antiarc: can you add a filter into Omen to filter out Pets? |
| 20:21.17 | Antiarc|Work | Chompers: I could see about it, but that'd be tricky, since pets aren't really reported as pets. |
| 20:22.10 | Chompers | thanks Antiarc :) |
| 20:22.43 | jme | Antiarc|Work: for shame (re the wow time) |
| 20:23.06 | Antiarc|Work | jme: I'm leaving my job and going to work starting my own business. WoW's kinda taking a back seat ;) |
| 20:23.19 | jme | Antiarc|Work: ahh, that's understandable :) |
| 20:23.36 | jme | Antiarc|Work: is it programming related? |
| 20:23.41 | Arrowmaster | so thats why there havent been any threat or omen commits in a while |
| 20:23.42 | Antiarc|Work | Yeah, web dev. |
| 20:23.49 | Antiarc|Work | Arrowmaster: That and it's -mostly- stable ;) |
| 20:23.54 | jme | Antiarc|Work: cool, that's what i do for a living right now |
| 20:23.55 | liquiem | Antiarc|Work, saw that change to combatlog with 2.4? |
| 20:24.00 | jme | Antiarc|Work: until i graudate college in may at least |
| 20:24.15 | Antiarc|Work | liquiem: Yeah, I'm really hoping I'll have time to rework Omen for it |
| 20:24.23 | Antiarc|Work | Because it's gonna be fun to handle. |
| 20:25.03 | liquiem | :) hope so |
| 20:25.04 | jme | how do you save a combat log to disk? |
| 20:25.13 | liquiem | type /combatlog |
| 20:25.13 | jme | as a text file |
| 20:25.20 | jme | ah, thanks |
| 20:25.44 | liquiem | after that command, everything will be writen to text after a while. force it with logout or reload ui (should work) |
| 20:26.16 | jme | is there a specific place it saves to? or do you get to choose.. i'm at work atm and can't check it out |
| 20:26.41 | Silviu- | Antiarc|Work http://img516.imageshack.us/my.php?image=wowscrnshot080607225730bv0.jpg ! :) |
| 20:27.30 | baer_ | Silviu-, looks nice. |
| 20:27.36 | Silviu- | thx |
| 20:27.40 | baer_ | what unitframes are you using? |
| 20:27.46 | Silviu- | Pitbull |
| 20:27.53 | jme | 11 fps, ouch |
| 20:27.53 | Dustwhisper- | what dropdown menu Antiarc ? |
| 20:27.55 | baer_ | or whatev' that stuff is in the upper left corner :) |
| 20:28.13 | jme | does look nice though |
| 20:28.26 | Silviu- | jme for my computer ... |
| 20:28.36 | Silviu- | Barton 2600 1 gb ram Fx 5700 |
| 20:28.39 | Silviu- | It`s ok :) |
| 20:28.46 | jme | Silviu-: cool :) |
| 20:28.59 | liquiem | jme, /logs in your wow folder |
| 20:29.08 | Silviu- | And lower then 10 it don`t go |
| 20:29.10 | jme | Silviu-: i play on a macbook pro, 2.33ghz core 2 duo, 2gb, radeon x1600xt |
| 20:29.14 | jme | liquiem: thanks |
| 20:29.19 | Silviu- | So ... i`m happy atm |
| 20:29.23 | baer_ | Silviu-, what kinda texture are you using? looks pretty unfamiliar to me. :) |
| 20:29.37 | Silviu- | Till next month when i get an e 6600 2 gm ram 8800 gts :) |
| 20:29.46 | Silviu- | baer_ Litestep |
| 20:29.48 | jme | ooh |
| 20:29.53 | baer_ | Litestep? |
| 20:30.06 | Silviu- | Yep |
| 20:30.09 | jme | Silviu-: http://i14.tinypic.com/5xxodwy is mine, not showing too much there though |
| 20:30.14 | jme | since it isn't in a real raid |
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| 20:30.55 | jme | Silviu-: only thing not shown is archud2, omen, violation.. |
| 20:30.56 | baer_ | jme, pretty minimal. |
| 20:30.59 | Silviu- | cute ;p |
| 20:31.01 | baer_ | looks great. |
| 20:31.07 | Silviu- | Yep |
| 20:31.09 | jme | thanks |
| 20:31.25 | Antiarc|Work | Dustwhisper-: On the WWS. It says "Full Report" by default. |
| 20:31.29 | Silviu- | I want make those eepanels a little more nice |
| 20:31.33 | Silviu- | But ... don`t know :) |
| 20:31.38 | Silviu- | Something like this |
| 20:31.48 | Silviu- | http://i110.photobucket.com/albums/n109/nightfallii/WoWScrnShot_072907_001415.jpg |
| 20:31.50 | baer_ | Silviu-, is that SCT(D) in the middle/left & middle/right? if so, which font? |
| 20:31.51 | liquiem | ahhh, eepanels... the horror in person |
| 20:32.02 | Chompers | we're doing the Lurker at the moment, do the guardians/ambushers despawn? |
| 20:32.04 | Silviu- | baer_ Msbt with Bloody font |
| 20:32.53 | Arrowmaster | ckknight: i think i broke parrot, i changed profiles while in configuration mode and now they configuration mode examples wont go away and wont move |
| 20:32.58 | |Stan| | http://img120.imageshack.us/img120/3755/wowscrnshot080507044357yh6.jpg <- mine |
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| 20:33.41 | Silviu- | |Stan| cuteeee give me eepanels savedvar ! |
| 20:33.42 | jme | Silviu-: interesting |
| 20:33.42 | Silviu- | ;) |
| 20:33.58 | |Stan| | hm |
| 20:34.07 | |Stan| | k :P |
| 20:34.11 | anholt | is there a nice mod to be able to search the bags, bank, and mail of all your characters simultaneously? |
| 20:34.12 | Silviu- | Or at least instructions how to make them like so |
| 20:34.40 | |Stan| | Silviu-: there's a video tutorial by http://omgphatloots.org/ |
| 20:34.54 | Silviu- | Oh thank u |
| 20:35.05 | liquiem | |Stan| what are the little green squars botton middle supposed to do? |
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| 20:35.17 | |Stan| | Silviu-: http://omgphatloots.org/?p=35 |
| 20:35.36 | |Stan| | liquiem: decursive..my main is a priest and I forgot to disable it :P |
| 20:36.09 | CIA-23 | 03ckknight * r45807 10Parrot/Code/ScrollAreas.lua: Parrot_ScrollAreas - if you change profiles or disable in config mode, that'll be turned off. |
| 20:36.13 | ckknight | Arrowmaster: there we go |
| 20:36.47 | Antiarc|Work | http://img529.imageshack.us/img529/3215/rogueui5qi0.jpg |
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| 20:37.15 | ckknight | Roartindon: actually, you should access .reverse directly :-P |
| 20:37.33 | ckknight | Roartindon: in LibJokerLocale-1.0 (LibAceLocale-3.0), it's the only real way to do it |
| 20:38.02 | |Stan| | Antiarc|Work: that looks cool! |
| 20:39.14 | JoshBorke | what is antiarc doing now? |
| 20:39.20 | Bruners | Antiarc|Work: wtb cowtip lines |
| 20:39.23 | Antiarc|Work | Antiarc is starting a business :P |
| 20:39.33 | baer_ | :) |
| 20:39.40 | Antiarc|Work | Bruners: I don't have them on me :( |
| 20:39.48 | Roartindon | ckknight: How do you test for the presence of a reverse translation? |
| 20:39.59 | JoshBorke | Antiarc|Work: good luck to you :) |
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| 20:40.05 | Bruners | Antiarc|Work: you say that all the times i ask :P |
| 20:40.08 | |Stan| | Antiarc|Work: can you share the CowTip config? :P |
| 20:40.13 | Antiarc|Work | I'm at work! :P |
| 20:40.16 | Antiarc|Work | I pasted it once upon a time |
| 20:40.18 | Elkano | ckknight how will it hande non-bijective translation mappings? |
| 20:40.21 | Antiarc|Work | Lemme see if I have that in my logs |
| 20:40.23 | ckknight | Roartindon: in 2.2, :HasReverseTranslation, in 3.0, you just access and it'll return nil |
| 20:40.24 | Dustwhisper- | oh Antiarc|Work i just try to do it with the local "create report" thing |
| 20:40.30 | Dustwhisper- | is that only possible with the online report host ? |
| 20:40.33 | ckknight | Elkano: there's still no good way to do that. |
| 20:40.42 | Antiarc|Work | Yes. You'll have to manually trim the logs if you want that locally, Dustwhisper- |
| 20:40.48 | Dustwhisper- | ah ok |
| 20:40.59 | Elkano | thought so |
| 20:41.57 | liquiem | i c, we prefer health and power bars in cowtips to be at the sides, dont we? |
| 20:42.07 | Roartindon | Elkano: Can always be done with a double lookup with proxy entries in the main table |
| 20:42.24 | Antiarc|Work | Found it! |
| 20:42.26 | Antiarc|Work | http://ace.pastey.net/71605 |
| 20:42.28 | Roartindon | But it's not a particularly nice solution |
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| 20:43.15 | |Stan| | Silviu-: http://ace.pastey.net/71879 |
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| 20:43.34 | Silviu- | |Stan| thank u |
| 20:43.38 | |Stan| | np |
| 20:44.50 | |Stan| | Antiarc|Work: where do I have to paste that? |
| 20:45.16 | Antiarc|Work | |Stan|: In the line editor, each grouping is the left/right line |
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| 20:49.37 | baer_ | Silviu-, another question about your screenshot: what is that target frame in the lower right corner? |
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| 20:50.36 | Silviu- | Target frame ? |
| 20:50.50 | Silviu- | That is tooltip |
| 20:50.51 | Silviu- | ;) |
| 20:50.58 | baer_ | oh, ok :)) |
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| 20:51.53 | baer_ | how do you get that "Targeted by"-stuff into it? |
| 20:52.09 | CIA-23 | 03ckknight 07ckknight * r45808 10Joker/LibJokerDB-1.0/ (. LibJokerDB-1.0.lua LibJokerDB-1.0.toc): LibJokerDB-1.0 - initial commit |
| 20:52.36 | Diao | use tinytip |
| 20:52.50 | Diao | only one that has it afaik |
| 20:52.50 | baer_ | ok, ty. |
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| 20:55.08 | Antiarc|Work | ckknight_: I see a CowTip feature... |
| 20:55.28 | ckknight | I see guava juice |
| 20:55.32 | attumen | where did you read about the combatlog change in 2.4?? |
| 20:55.54 | Antiarc|Work | Use partytargettargets to put in "targeted by" into CowTip (DogTag?) |
| 20:56.00 | break19 | hey ck.. you aware of the slight glitch affecting pitbull, wrt to tempest keep instances? |
| 20:56.10 | ckknight | the health thing? |
| 20:56.12 | break19 | yea |
| 20:56.21 | Roartindon | ckknight: Does CowTip support aura display? |
| 20:56.22 | ckknight | Antiarc|Work: well, there's NumTargetting now |
| 20:56.36 | ckknight | Roartindon: not in picture format, but you could with text |
| 20:56.53 | ckknight | Antiarc|Work: but TargettingList could be added |
| 20:56.57 | Pkekyo | Guild's first kara run...Maiden, Moroes and Attumen down on first try :> |
| 20:57.13 | Killmore | Pkekyo: grats ! |
| 20:57.18 | break19 | ckknight: by your response, I'm guessing you are aware.. just wanted to make sure :) well.. back to the game I go.. afk again :) |
| 20:57.23 | baer_ | Pkekyo, gratzi |
| 20:57.49 | baer_ | still can remember my guild's first run :) |
| 20:57.54 | |Stan| | Antiarc|Work: I don't seem to get it right :( http://img106.imageshack.us/img106/7527/wowscrnshot080607225654ye4.jpg |
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| 20:58.05 | baer_ | wiping @ romulo & jul |
| 20:58.06 | vecnah | hi |
| 20:58.34 | vecnah | I am trying to design a very basic addon and I'd need some help understand why I can't use MessageFrame in some event |
| 20:58.54 | vecnah | if you could help it would be really appreciated |
| 20:59.37 | jme | ~ponder |
| 20:59.38 | purl | Uh... yeah, jme, but where are we going to find rubber pants our size? |
| 20:59.41 | Diao | hm |
| 20:59.42 | Antiarc|Work | |Stan|: Each pairing in my pastey is the left and right bit |
| 20:59.42 | jme | :O |
| 20:59.45 | Diao | i've been noticing in pitbull |
| 20:59.49 | Diao | that bars don't update very quickly |
| 20:59.50 | Diao | in pvp |
| 20:59.53 | Antiarc|Work | So for each pair, the top line goes on the left, the bottom line goes on the right. |
| 21:00.07 | Diao | when i switch targets a lot the number updates right away but the bars have about a 5s delay |
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| 21:01.16 | ckknight | bah |
| 21:01.24 | jme | ckknight: nice peer |
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| 21:01.28 | Dustwhisper- | how do i generate a WWSL file that i can manually upload to WWS ? |
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| 21:01.30 | ckknight | peer's an ass. |
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| 21:01.36 | |Stan| | Antiarc|Work: got it now..silly me :P |
| 21:02.15 | stavmar | Antiarc|Work: Holy crap antiarc your cowtip code even includes the note from the guild panel, those aqre sweet |
| 21:02.29 | stavmar | TY for the information |
| 21:02.57 | stavmar | If you leave a line empty in cowtip does it make a line sapce in teh tip itself? |
| 21:03.04 | stavmar | space*, the* |
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| 21:03.09 | Antiarc|Work | Diao: I think the bars don't change until your target's health changes |
| 21:03.25 | Antiarc|Work | Which just tells me that the bars aren't updating on targetswitch, which they probably should ;) |
| 21:03.53 | Diao | oh |
| 21:04.00 | Diao | yeah :( |
| 21:04.08 | Diao | well |
| 21:04.11 | Diao | sometimes they do update |
| 21:04.14 | Diao | like when i'm not fighting very much |
| 21:04.18 | Diao | and i just tab between a few |
| 21:04.34 | Diao | but when people are taking hits left and right then it doesn't update as quickly as default frames |
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| 21:04.51 | ckknight | Antiarc: wanna test something? ;-) |
| 21:05.01 | Antiarc|Work | I'm at work, so I can't test anything WoW-y |
| 21:05.42 | ckknight | bah |
| 21:05.53 | CIA-23 | 03ckknight * r45809 10DogTag-1.0/DogTag-1.0/DogTag-1.0.lua: DogTag-1.0 - add tag [TargettingList]. Needs testing. |
| 21:06.07 | Antiarc|Work | Two t's? |
| 21:06.11 | ckknight | yep |
| 21:06.17 | ckknight | wait, no |
| 21:06.18 | Antiarc|Work | That seems misspelled. |
| 21:06.19 | ckknight | that's wrong. |
| 21:06.23 | Antiarc|Work | Yes it is :P |
| 21:06.40 | Azurewrath | mhm.. anyone around who knows stuff about DKPMon/Bidder? We use a DKP System where everyone gets points per try for a Boss and an open auction for items.. is that possible with it? |
| 21:07.00 | CIA-23 | 03ckknight * r45810 10DogTag-1.0/DogTag-1.0/DogTag-1.0.lua: DogTag-1.0 - Targetting => Targeting |
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| 21:07.58 | Roartindon | ckknight: With CowTip, if you have health/power bars left/right, would it make sense to do StatusBar:SetOrientation("VERTICAL") for texturing purposes? |
| 21:08.12 | ckknight | how do you mean? |
| 21:08.33 | Roartindon | At the moment, textures like comet/etc just look wrong with vertical bars in CowTip |
| 21:08.44 | Roartindon | otravi, etc (with health bar at left) |
| 21:09.11 | Roartindon | hmm.. not sure that that's the right method either. |
| 21:09.33 | stavmar | \ |
| 21:10.02 | CIA-23 | 03cryect * r45811 10Recount/Fights.lua: Recount - Forgot to add fights.lua |
| 21:10.17 | dodga | ckknight: Can you sometime add a tag to DogTag, that evaluates to true if one is in a party or raid? |
| 21:10.42 | Chompers | Antiarc: any tips of how rogues survive the Lurkers Whirl? |
| 21:11.17 | Megalon | Chompers: 2steps back? :> |
| 21:11.19 | Antiarc|Work | Chompers: Take 2 steps back out of range? |
| 21:11.27 | Antiarc|Work | You just have to be out of melee range, like Ragnaros |
| 21:11.40 | Chompers | we try, but we keep getting hit |
| 21:11.44 | Antiarc|Work | Just DPS from the edge of the hitbox |
| 21:11.47 | Chompers | even at the very edge of the inner circle |
| 21:11.50 | Antiarc|Work | And then run to the back of the platform before the whirl |
| 21:11.55 | Antiarc|Work | I run to the edge and never get hit |
| 21:12.07 | Antiarc|Work | Maybe you're not backing out soon enough? |
| 21:12.23 | ckknight | dodga: [Name#party1:Name#raid1] :-P |
| 21:12.36 | Chompers | perhaps |
| 21:13.03 | dodga | ckknight: Interesting.. :> |
| 21:13.05 | Antiarc|Work | You're well out of range at the edge of the circle |
| 21:13.14 | dodga | Will try as soon as Auctioneer is done here :D |
| 21:13.15 | Antiarc|Work | And...well, he doesn't move :P |
| 21:13.33 | jme | Group queuing in AV will return |
| 21:13.35 | jme | woo |
| 21:14.01 | baer_ | yeehaaar. |
| 21:14.11 | baer_ | jme, i really look forward to this :-} |
| 21:14.18 | jme | In Season 3, season 1 gear will become available through the regular honor system |
| 21:14.21 | jme | heck yeah |
| 21:14.22 | Azurewrath | AV without a group is just retarded anyway... |
| 21:14.30 | jme | i <3 the season 1 gear |
| 21:14.35 | dodga | Uuuh, Tirion Fordring smashing stuff with his Ashbringer :o |
| 21:14.36 | jme | time to start saving up honor |
| 21:14.50 | dodga | jme: What u say! |
| 21:14.58 | Cyrez | I think I made my CIA script bulletproof... Somebody please commit something. <3 |
| 21:14.59 | jme | dodga: for great justice |
| 21:15.02 | jme | dodga: http://www.wowinsider.com/2007/08/06/what-we-learned-from-blizzcon/ |
| 21:15.24 | baer_ | Cyrez, for example? |
| 21:15.57 | Cyrez | Anytime that little guy says something, it's relayed to a window I created. |
| 21:15.58 | jme | Arthas Menethil - Will do something really bad to Azeroth to send the Alliance and Horde after him |
| 21:15.59 | dodga | I wonder what they want to accomplish with that rating requirement |
| 21:16.09 | jme | should destroy it imo, so everyone has to start levelling in outlands |
| 21:16.13 | jme | ~flee |
| 21:16.14 | purl | ACTION runs away screaming |
| 21:16.22 | dodga | "Uuuh so you got enough arena points to buy something that will actually improve your character? Too bad your team sucks too much so you'll never get it!" |
| 21:16.23 | Cyrez | And I just adapted it for any possible change to the trailing number. |
| 21:16.25 | Amadeo | that whole AV afk thing scares me |
| 21:16.34 | Amadeo | let's say a bunch of people don't like you, so they all report you for being afk |
| 21:16.39 | Cyrez | But IDK if it'll work until the bot says something. |
| 21:16.40 | Amadeo | and you get punished for nothing! |
| 21:16.50 | dodga | Amadeo: You get rid of the debuff by participating in combat |
| 21:16.52 | Cyrez | Other than "ow", lol. I filtered THAT out. |
| 21:17.11 | jme | umm, what |
| 21:17.18 | Amadeo | dodga: So the debuff is placed there by player reports, then it is removed if you fight? |
| 21:17.21 | CIA-23 | ow |
| 21:17.22 | Diao | yes |
| 21:17.23 | jme | Battlegronds: New BG coming in the expansion |
| 21:17.28 | jme | - no name announced yet |
| 21:17.30 | Diao | if you're actively participatin |
| 21:17.31 | Diao | g |
| 21:17.34 | Diao | you don't have anything to worry about |
| 21:17.39 | jme | but then "Alterac Valley was originally non-instanced, as Lake Wintergrasp will be" |
| 21:17.46 | Amadeo | ok, that's pretty cool then :) |
| 21:17.55 | baer_ | yep :-) |
| 21:17.57 | ckknight | Lake Wintergrasp? |
| 21:17.58 | dodga | Amadeo: As far as I understand it.. People report you; when X people reported you, you gain a debuff and do not gain any honor; you start fighting, you lose the debuff |
| 21:18.03 | dodga | Amadeo: Something along that |
| 21:18.32 | ckknight | the AFK thing is in 2.2 |
| 21:18.44 | Diao | uhh wtf |
| 21:18.45 | Diao | Arthas had a sister? She may come into play |
| 21:18.51 | Diao | since when did arthas have a sister! |
| 21:18.53 | Diao | making up lore again :( |
| 21:19.24 | ckknight | lol |
| 21:19.27 | dodga | "Haha! We found this secret lore.. book! And it speaketh the truth!" :o |
| 21:19.34 | ckknight | they never discussed siblings |
| 21:19.35 | Antiarc|Work | Arthas' sister was introduced in Day of the Dragon |
| 21:19.43 | Diao | oh |
| 21:19.47 | Diao | well then |
| 21:19.59 | jme | Hunters |
| 21:20.00 | jme | Legendary ranged weapon coming |
| 21:20.05 | Amadeo | First Dalaran bubble-hearths, now this!? |
| 21:20.10 | Diao | tbh i think it's fair to have a required arena rating for a gladiator weapon |
| 21:20.10 | Antiarc|Work | "Calia Menethil is a character is the fictional Warcraft Universe. She is the daughter of Terenas Menethil II, King of Lordaeron, and sister of Arthas Menethil, the Lord of the Scourge. She is briefly mentioned in the novel, Day of the Dragon, by Richard A. Knaak, as an important part of Deathwing's plan. Disguised as a man named Prestor, he sought to marry her for political gain. Little else is known about her, other than the fact that she is older t |
| 21:20.11 | dodga | I wonder what happens, when people unlock their death knight, although they already used up all character slots on a realm |
| 21:20.15 | Diao | as long as they don't set the rating too high |
| 21:20.30 | Diao | like.. 1700 rating or something is fair imo |
| 21:20.33 | Diao | something that most people can get :P |
| 21:20.43 | ckknight | BGs are created as "Warcraft III meets Battlefield 1942" |
| 21:20.45 | sb | mahh |
| 21:20.47 | sb | leotheras 10% :o |
| 21:21.04 | Amadeo | "Rating requirement will be necessary to buy an arena weapon, so no more saving up points just for the weapon" |
| 21:21.05 | Antiarc|Work | We got him to 7% on our third try ever last night, but we just had too many people dying to demons :( |
| 21:21.06 | Amadeo | I think that sucks |
| 21:21.06 | jme | ckknight: Lake Wintergrasp: Non-instanced PvP zone in Northrend, Will have multiple objectives (like AV), siege weapons, and a persistent effect (like the Spirit Towers) |
| 21:21.13 | jme | ckknight: so i guess that isn't the same as the new BG instance |
| 21:21.18 | sb | Antiarc|Work: MT dies every time :/ |
| 21:21.21 | ckknight | bah |
| 21:21.26 | Diao | wait what |
| 21:21.27 | Antiarc|Work | Our MT's fine, but our OT can't seem to kill her demon |
| 21:21.27 | Diao | Hunters having to buy two arena weapons is a problem, and prices are being reconsidered |
| 21:21.33 | Diao | why do hunters need to buy 2 arena weapons |
| 21:21.37 | dodga | No additions to character slot numbers <- so that means: You're screwed if you have too much alts? |
| 21:21.38 | jme | Diao: ranged, melee |
| 21:21.41 | Antiarc|Work | Diao: Ranged + melee |
| 21:21.42 | Diao | .. |
| 21:21.43 | Diao | well |
| 21:21.47 | Diao | warriors have to buy ranged and melee too |
| 21:21.50 | Diao | and rogues |
| 21:21.50 | ckknight | Guild Battlegrounds are being considered, as well as a guild rating for each BG |
| 21:21.52 | Antiarc|Work | As do rogues |
| 21:21.58 | Antiarc|Work | And paladins, druids, shaman... |
| 21:22.02 | Antiarc|Work | But hey, hunter loot. |
| 21:22.07 | Diao | even casters have wands to buy |
| 21:22.11 | jme | <3 hunter lewt |
| 21:22.13 | Diao | so i don't really see why they singled out hunters |
| 21:22.14 | Diao | lol |
| 21:22.40 | Diao | wish blizzard would allow us to have more than 2 profession slots |
| 21:22.43 | Diao | maybe through a quest or something |
| 21:22.48 | jme | 1-60 and 1-70 leveling time should be made to go faster |
| 21:22.54 | Diao | cause there's too many BoP profession thigns |
| 21:22.58 | Diao | and if you want to min/max your character |
| 21:23.07 | Antiarc|Work | I think that's kinda the point |
| 21:23.08 | Diao | you have to learn/drop every profession >.> |
| 21:23.13 | baer_ | btw, strategy question... |
| 21:23.17 | Antiarc|Work | You can't do that anyway |
| 21:23.21 | Diao | why not |
| 21:23.23 | Antiarc|Work | Because the BOP stuff requires that profession to use. |
| 21:23.29 | Diao | er |
| 21:23.29 | Antiarc|Work | Drop the profession, you can't use the item. |
| 21:23.32 | Diao | not enchanting |
| 21:23.33 | Antiarc|Work | Like the blacksmithing weapons |
| 21:23.39 | Diao | or JC |
| 21:23.41 | baer_ | ssc: do the tanks need 490 def at all next to 300 res? |
| 21:23.43 | Diao | they just have BoP stuff |
| 21:23.45 | Antiarc|Work | What, you're going to level enchanting 375 for two ring enchants? :P |
| 21:23.55 | Antiarc|Work | (which really sorta suck anyway?) |
| 21:24.06 | Diao | yes! |
| 21:24.09 | Diao | i have 375 ench |
| 21:24.10 | Roartindon | Antiarc: A paladin in my guild did, then dropped it right after |
| 21:24.12 | Diao | waiting for good rings to enchant |
| 21:24.12 | Chompers | you can avoid it Antiarc |
| 21:24.13 | Diao | lol |
| 21:24.14 | Cyrez | My roommate bought an opened lockbox from this guy with a BoP recipe in it for my BS. <3 |
| 21:24.21 | Chompers | it's just the timers that are a little weird |
| 21:24.25 | Diao | and the JC bop gems |
| 21:24.26 | Diao | are AMAZING |
| 21:24.36 | Diao | but they're bop :( |
| 21:26.00 | dodga | ckknight: "Name#party1" is a unknown tag |
| 21:26.12 | jme | Learned a lot from attunements in BC-- looking at making that easier, including having one person attune a whole guild |
| 21:26.50 | Diao | one of the things i really like |
| 21:26.51 | Diao | is Free spell damage for healers coming on items |
| 21:26.55 | Diao | that's going to make a lot of people happy |
| 21:27.12 | Diao | * Refer-a-friend may make it easier for friends to play by offering leveled characters |
| 21:27.12 | Diao | -Northrend |
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| 21:27.14 | Diao | lmao |
| 21:27.48 | Keya | I just leveled alchemy with my pally, major mana potions are the most ridicolous recipe that comes to my mind for a bc - be pally |
| 21:28.29 | ckknight | dodga: odd, oh well |
| 21:28.34 | ckknight | dodga: why do you want the tag anyway? |
| 21:29.20 | dodga | ckknight: So [NumTargeting] only is there, when somebody besides me could target something :D |
| 21:29.52 | sb | BAH |
| 21:30.01 | sb | Antiarc|Work: hie dies _every_ time *sigh* |
| 21:30.14 | Antiarc|Work | Fifty DKP minus. |
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| 21:30.28 | Antiarc|Work | Does he have bigwigs? |
| 21:30.34 | sb | yup |
| 21:30.36 | Antiarc|Work | It's pretty easy to avoid with a giant timer bar in your face. |
| 21:30.43 | sb | avoid? |
| 21:30.45 | sb | how? |
| 21:30.46 | dodga | wtf is up with new stuff for priests? seems I should level my shaman already |
| 21:30.54 | Antiarc|Work | Yes, step backwards before the timer goes off |
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| 21:31.26 | sb | mh... i think we will switch to druid tank |
| 21:31.46 | Antiarc|Work | Problems with a war tank? |
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| 21:32.11 | Antiarc|Work | We have a war tank him, no problems. *shrug* |
| 21:33.16 | sb | no idea... no enough dmg / too dumb for spellreflection and stuff |
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| 21:34.12 | Antiarc|Work | *shrug* |
| 21:34.15 | CIA-23 | 03ckknight * r45812 10DogTag-1.0/DogTag-1.0/DogTag-1.0.lua: DogTag-1.0 - add tag [InGroup], which will return "True" if you're in a party or raid. |
| 21:34.20 | ckknight | dodga: use that |
| 21:34.26 | Cyrez | OMG, it works! <3 |
| 21:34.52 | dodga | ckknight: Much <3 |
| 21:35.52 | Cyrez | My CIA relay script works now even if the nick changes. ^^ |
| 21:36.38 | |Stan| | Why is there allways a little gap between the Health and the Mana Bar in pitbull? |
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| 21:51.30 | Pkekyo | Guild's first kara run, took down Attumen, Moroes, Maiden and Wizard of Oz :> |
| 21:51.37 | Dustwhisper- | cg =) |
| 21:52.09 | BankZ | gratz |
| 21:52.46 | CIA-23 | 03hamunaptra * r45813 10fmBuffCheck/ (4 files): |
| 21:52.46 | CIA-23 | fmBuffCheck: |
| 21:52.46 | CIA-23 | - Added the first traces of buff set management |
| 21:53.04 | Chompers | 5 nether vortexes! at last |
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| 21:53.29 | baer_ | Silviu-, still here? :) |
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| 21:53.37 | baer_ | i'm still amaced by your UI. :) |
| 21:53.50 | Amadeo | what UI? I wanna be amazed |
| 21:53.52 | baer_ | but i wonder how you get "Litestep" to your uf. |
| 21:53.59 | Pkekyo | baer_: linkage? |
| 21:54.06 | baer_ | http://img516.imageshack.us/my.php?image=wowscrnshot080607225730bv0.jpg |
| 21:54.16 | dylanm | Uh isn't it in SharedMedia? |
| 21:54.34 | Keias | yap, it is |
| 21:54.35 | dodga | ckknight: Aiiie, TargetingList errors -> http://ace.pastey.net/71880 |
| 21:55.00 | baer_ | umm... |
| 21:55.09 | baer_ | sharedmedia-1 is installed here. |
| 21:55.21 | ckknight | hrm |
| 21:55.22 | dylanm | Is that the lib? |
| 21:55.29 | baer_ | aye. |
| 21:55.42 | dylanm | Install the SharedMedia addon |
| 21:55.44 | baer_ | or what do you mean by SharedMedia? |
| 21:55.50 | baer_ | ok :) |
| 21:55.50 | Keias | There's a SharedMedia and SharedMediaLib |
| 21:55.52 | tsigo | SharedMediaLib is the library, SharedMedia adds a bunch of textures for addons that use the library |
| 21:55.54 | Keias | You need the regular |
| 21:55.58 | Keias | Yes, what tsigo said |
| 21:56.26 | baer_ | do i need the !SurfaceControl addon, too? |
| 21:56.41 | Keias | Don't think so |
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| 21:56.54 | dodga | baer_: Is that a patch that puts the health percentage on the health bar in the tooltip? |
| 21:57.02 | dodga | Is it even CowTip? :D |
| 21:57.35 | baer_ | dodga, sorry, not my ui; i'm just amaced :) |
| 21:58.12 | dodga | heh, k :> |
| 21:58.31 | baer_ | It's Silviu-'s ui :) |
| 21:58.45 | ckknight | found the issue, dodga |
| 21:58.46 | yacoob | Ghraaaa. |
| 21:58.52 | yacoob | Death to all programs ignoring LC_MESSAGES. |
| 21:58.57 | dodga | ckknight: Take your time :> |
| 21:59.15 | Amadeo | You have no chance to survive! |
| 21:59.24 | yacoob | How are you, gentlemen? |
| 22:00.01 | Amadeo | Splendid! |
| 22:00.19 | |Stan| | spiderpig! |
| 22:00.24 | yacoob | psssst, it's "It's you!!!" :) |
| 22:00.25 | CIA-23 | 03ckknight * r45814 10DogTag-1.0/DogTag-1.0/DogTag-1.0.lua: DogTag-1.0 - fix issue with TargetingList |
| 22:00.42 | ckknight | spiderpig spiderpig does whatever a spiderpig does |
| 22:01.02 | *** mode/#wowace [+o vhaarr] by ChanServ |
| 22:01.38 | Cyrez | OMG, awesome! It worked! |
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| 22:03.01 | Funkeh` | hi all |
| 22:03.17 | ckknight | hey Funkeh` |
| 22:03.39 | Funkeh` | svn back up yet? |
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| 22:06.01 | CIA-23 | 03xbeeps * r45815 10HealComm-2.0/ (4 files in 2 dirs): |
| 22:06.01 | CIA-23 | HealComm-2.0: |
| 22:06.01 | CIA-23 | - Initial add (after rename) |
| 22:06.43 | |Stan| | is it possible to add textures to swstats? |
| 22:06.50 | Cyrez | Somebody join #wowace-cia please? Trust me without asking why. ^^ |
| 22:08.36 | Trancer | why?! |
| 22:08.48 | Cyrez | Eh... >< |
| 22:08.49 | Trancer | (at least I asked AFTER I joined ;p) |
| 22:09.04 | BankZ | Does anyone else use HotMan? |
| 22:09.08 | BankZ | seems like its dead |
| 22:09.09 | CIA-23 | 03xbeeps * r45816 10HealComm-2.0/ (. HealComm-2.0/HealComm-2.0.lua): |
| 22:09.09 | CIA-23 | HealComm-2.0: |
| 22:09.09 | CIA-23 | - Adjust SVN properties |
| 22:09.23 | Silviu- | dodga http://www.curse.com/downloads/details/8709/ |
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| 22:09.27 | *** mode/#wowace [+v Wobin] by ChanServ |
| 22:09.27 | cncfanatics | whats that chann el for ? |
| 22:09.29 | cncfanatics | ^^ |
| 22:09.40 | Diao | ahh |
| 22:09.43 | Diao | you have it redirecting |
| 22:09.45 | Diao | with a script? |
| 22:09.47 | Trancer | so the added value is an extra timestamp and a channel with only SVN update stuffs? |
| 22:09.58 | Amadeo | BankZ: Your mom's a HotMan |
| 22:10.04 | cncfanatics | I'm not seeing with Mr CIA says in the cia channel though |
| 22:10.05 | CIA-23 | 03cryect * r45817 10Recount/ (GUI_Main.lua Recount.lua): Recount - Small initialization bug fix |
| 22:10.06 | Diao | that's pretty nice |
| 22:10.07 | Silviu- | baer_ from SharedMedia |
| 22:10.27 | BankZ | Amadeo: I am a HotMa! |
| 22:10.32 | Amadeo | haha |
| 22:10.48 | Trancer | and you have a 24/7 connection? :P |
| 22:10.49 | BankZ | I just wish there was a good hot/dot timer :( |
| 22:11.06 | Trancer | (Cyrez that is) |
| 22:11.24 | Cyrez | I'm always here, pretty much. |
| 22:11.32 | CIA-40 | Pants |
| 22:11.45 | Trancer | I saw that one coming :P |
| 22:11.49 | CIA-40 | it's fun to mess up Cyrez's bot |
| 22:11.51 | Ominous | rofl |
| 22:12.02 | baer_ | Silviu-, found it, thanks. |
| 22:12.05 | CIA-23 | ow |
| 22:12.08 | Trancer | now... if we all name ourselves CIA-?? |
| 22:12.15 | Trancer | and all talk crap, we flood him down! |
| 22:12.16 | Funkeh` | lol |
| 22:12.25 | baer_ | Silviu-, still trying to reduce the space between the frames to zero. |
| 22:12.30 | Trancer | Cyrez: just check for the host |
| 22:12.39 | Silviu- | baer_ at me is zero :) |
| 22:12.44 | Diao | rofl |
| 22:12.45 | Cyrez | I noe, I disabled it until I do that. |
| 22:12.45 | Trancer | if it's not 208.69.. or cia.navi.cx it's bad |
| 22:13.20 | BankZ | Anyone suggest a good hot/dot timer? |
| 22:13.24 | BankZ | even if its not ACE |
| 22:13.28 | Cyrez | It's not even a bot, persay. It's just one complicated line. |
| 22:13.35 | baer_ | Silviu-, i'm new to pitbull, need to figure all the options :) |
| 22:13.44 | CIA-23 | 03sayclub * r45818 10Babble-2.2/Babble-Spell-2.2/Babble-Spell-2.2.lua: |
| 22:13.44 | CIA-23 | Babble-2.2: |
| 22:13.44 | CIA-23 | - Updated localization koKR |
| 22:13.49 | Silviu- | baer_ there are a lot :)) |
| 22:14.02 | Silviu- | BankZ i use Quartz |
| 22:14.08 | Silviu- | BankZ and i`m a dot wl |
| 22:14.29 | Trancer | I like DoTimers |
| 22:14.35 | Trancer | it's just awfully noisy |
| 22:14.37 | Silviu- | Dotimers uses a lot of mem |
| 22:14.39 | Trancer | quartz seemed okay |
| 22:14.46 | Funkeh` | DoTimers is horrible |
| 22:14.48 | Ominous | ClassTimer? |
| 22:14.49 | Silviu- | i tryed it several times |
| 22:14.51 | Trancer | but haven't tried it yet (read: couldn't be arsed to configure) |
| 22:14.54 | baer_ | yep :) |
| 22:15.09 | Silviu- | Omnious no :P |
| 22:15.23 | BankZ | Ominous: I dont like class timers because you have to select ppl and I never select anyone |
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| 22:15.43 | *** mode/#wowace [+v Shirik] by ChanServ |
| 22:15.43 | Silviu- | BankZ then the same way is with Quartz too :) |
| 22:15.58 | Silviu- | u have to have someone in target / focus to see any bars |
| 22:15.58 | Silviu- | ;) |
| 22:16.02 | BankZ | I love quartz but dont use it to time hots and dots |
| 22:16.20 | BankZ | I click cast |
| 22:16.22 | Silviu- | I use it to time dots/castbar/enemycastbar :D |
| 22:16.32 | Amadeo | I use Natur EnemyCastBar or whatever it's called |
| 22:16.48 | Silviu- | Why not use 1 addon that do 3 things then use 3 addons that do the same thing :P |
| 22:16.52 | BankZ | Amadeo: Can you get it to just track YOUR hots/dots? |
| 22:16.53 | Silviu- | And Quartz is sexy :P |
| 22:17.10 | Amadeo | BankZ: I'm not sure actually, I haven't messed with it |
| 22:17.18 | BankZ | Silviu-: I would love to use Quartz but it doesnt do what I want |
| 22:17.30 | Silviu- | BankZ true |
| 22:17.40 | BankZ | cuz I dont select anyone |
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| 22:17.49 | BankZ | im gonna try HotCandy |
| 22:17.51 | Silviu- | Bah i hope that Aezay answer me on curse about his addon to modify it a little ;) |
| 22:18.17 | Silviu- | since ckknight is so bad and don`t want to fix that bug :P |
| 22:18.36 | ckknight | which bug? |
| 22:18.49 | Silviu- | In Cowtip |
| 22:18.57 | Silviu- | In blizzard interface in a raid |
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| 22:19.19 | Silviu- | mouse over anyone and u won`t see where the player is |
| 22:19.32 | Silviu- | I have to actually /target person and looik where he is :/ |
| 22:19.43 | |Stan| | Silviu-: do you know how to get rid of the gap between health and manabar in pitbull? |
| 22:20.07 | Silviu- | |Stan| gap ? u mean to have the same height ? |
| 22:20.20 | dylanm | As in there's a space between the two. |
| 22:20.27 | Silviu- | Hmm i don`t notice it |
| 22:20.28 | |Stan| | nah, there's a little horizontal gap |
| 22:20.44 | |Stan| | like a 2px high line |
| 22:20.55 | Silviu- | Ask ckknight ;( |
| 22:21.03 | ckknight | 1px |
| 22:21.04 | Silviu- | He is the author ;p |
| 22:21.37 | ckknight | you could hack Metalayout.lua to have it not do a gap |
| 22:23.00 | |Stan| | mm |
| 22:23.26 | Silviu- | good night ;) |
| 22:24.43 | |Stan| | n8 |
| 22:24.50 | |Stan| | ckknight: do we need that line or why is it there? |
| 22:25.34 | ckknight | aesthetics |
| 22:25.59 | |Stan| | mkay |
| 22:26.05 | jme | are the PTR's working? |
| 22:26.11 | jme | getting stuck at grabbing the character list |
| 22:26.51 | jme | i'm guessing they aren't up, because i was able to authenticate without a queue |
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| 22:27.13 | Amadeo | they're still having issues |
| 22:27.26 | jme | ah |
| 22:28.34 | Amadeo | if you do get in, make sure you don't summon or create any items in any way |
| 22:28.41 | Amadeo | I'd stay away from looting, also |
| 22:28.54 | Amadeo | don't zone either :P |
| 22:30.48 | cncfanatics | what event is called when Shift, Alt or Ctrl are pushed ? |
| 22:30.55 | cncfanatics | cant remember what it was called |
| 22:30.59 | Roartindon | MODIFIER_STATE_CHANGED I think |
| 22:31.48 | cncfanatics | tnx |
| 22:32.46 | Dustwhisper- | is there any command to flush/clear the combatlog ? |
| 22:33.17 | cncfanatics | think there is a command to clear a chatframe |
| 22:33.19 | cncfanatics | cant remember it |
| 22:33.21 | Roartindon | ChatFrame2:Clear() |
| 22:33.22 | Roartindon | ? |
| 22:33.34 | Hjalte | . /clearall |
| 22:34.10 | Hjalte | (i just found out it also works in my irc program. twice.) |
| 22:34.22 | Roartindon | Hjalte: lol |
| 22:35.31 | Diao | lol |
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| 22:43.48 | yacoob | hm... |
| 22:43.59 | yacoob | is it possible for Autobar to hold actions, instead of items? |
| 22:44.14 | Dustwhisper- | why would you do that tbh? |
| 22:44.15 | yacoob | like, create a slot where all crafting skills are located? |
| 22:44.25 | Dustwhisper- | oh that's a neat idea actually =D |
| 22:44.30 | yacoob | see? :> |
| 22:44.41 | yacoob | and from the reaction I guess it's not possible? :D |
| 22:45.49 | Diao | i think so |
| 22:45.53 | Diao | because it supports spells |
| 22:46.12 | Diao | (portals, conjure food/water) |
| 22:47.58 | Gngsk | ~framexml |
| 22:47.59 | purl | get the official Blizzard Interface AddOn Kit here: http://www.blizzard.com/support/wow/?id=aww01671p or view it online at http://wdn.wowinterface.com/ |
| 22:48.30 | yacoob | Diao, well, yes, but I've just browsed through, and I see no way to define "my own category" :| |
| 22:48.34 | yacoob | who do I whine to? |
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| 22:50.46 | Diao | toadkiller |
| 22:53.11 | CIA-23 | 03sayclub * r45819 10Babble-2.2/Babble-Spell-2.2/Babble-Spell-2.2.lua: .Babble-Spell-2.2: - Updated localization koKR |
| 22:59.13 | Pkekyo | how would changing the name of an addon folder affect the addon? |
| 22:59.20 | CIA-23 | 03phyber * r45820 10XPBarNone/Core.lua: |
| 22:59.20 | CIA-23 | XPBarNone: |
| 22:59.20 | CIA-23 | - Made exalted factions stand out a little more in the rep menu, based colour on the exalted colour in the armory. |
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| 22:59.58 | Shirik | very severely |
| 23:00.00 | Shirik | i.e., it won't work anymore |
| 23:00.00 | Shirik | if you must change the addon folder's name, you also have to change it's toc file |
| 23:00.03 | Shirik | ('s name) |
| 23:00.57 | Shirik | If you're not an addon author, there are two things you should never touch |
| 23:01.01 | Pkekyo | so if I change the name of the toc and addon folder it's all fine? |
| 23:01.15 | Shirik | The first is the TOC file, specifically the TOC number. The second is the addon folder's name. |
| 23:01.22 | Shirik | Yes |
| 23:01.36 | Pkekyo | Shirik: why is that? |
| 23:01.37 | Shirik | but if you're not the author, you shouldn't |
| 23:01.51 | Shirik | You have no good reason to and are only setting yourself up for problems in the future |
| 23:02.14 | dylanm | Some addons make assumptions about their path as well. |
| 23:02.36 | Pkekyo | well, thing is, I want to make several folders for the various xArt styles I have... |
| 23:02.37 | cncfanatics | is it only me or is OnAttributeChanged buggy ? |
| 23:02.56 | Shirik | cncfanatics: It's just you |
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| 23:03.01 | cncfanatics | it wont trigger right after the attribute change |
| 23:03.17 | cncfanatics | seems to trigger the next frame or so ? |
| 23:03.36 | Shirik | how could it possibly trigger right after the change? |
| 23:03.53 | Shirik | hm, I guess there are some ugly ways to do it |
| 23:04.03 | cncfanatics | well, it should trigger right after the change |
| 23:04.32 | cncfanatics | actualy, hmm it does |
| 23:04.46 | cncfanatics | but, if you do multiple attribute changes in a row, it'll only trigger for the first one |
| 23:04.55 | Shirik | curious |
| 23:05.05 | cncfanatics | just tested it |
| 23:05.11 | cncfanatics | I first change type1 to macro |
| 23:05.15 | cncfanatics | then macro1 to 25 |
| 23:05.16 | Shirik | tbh I don't think it's a good idea for it to be called in the same frame |
| 23:05.22 | Shirik | but I don't tend to use it so w/e |
| 23:05.30 | cncfanatics | I'm gonna stop using it too |
| 23:05.34 | cncfanatics | I use a custom attribute changer anyway |
| 23:05.42 | cncfanatics | gonna incorporate my code in there |
| 23:08.49 | |Stan| | eeehh bartender annoys me :( |
| 23:09.10 | |Stan| | I just doesn't change the bars when I switch to shadow form |
| 23:09.21 | baer_ | is there any way of getting the SharedMedia styles into Omen? |
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| 23:14.14 | CIA-23 | ow |
| 23:14.58 | CIA-23 | 03oridan * r45821 10ShoutReminder/ShoutReminder.lua: |
| 23:14.58 | CIA-23 | ShoutReminder: |
| 23:14.58 | CIA-23 | - small bugfix (bar would continue to grow if renewed during tween) |
| 23:15.43 | cncfanatics | hmmmm |
| 23:18.18 | CIA-23 | ow |
| 23:18.51 | cncfanatics | is frame:GetAttribute(); worth caching ? |
| 23:18.53 | cncfanatics | or is it fast enough ? |
| 23:19.35 | cncfanatics | someone ? |
| 23:20.16 | CIA-23 | ow |
| 23:20.54 | Megalon | is this going to be intimate? |
| 23:21.06 | jme | ~flee |
| 23:21.06 | purl | ACTION runs away screaming |
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| 23:23.00 | cncfanatics | w000t it works |
| 23:23.10 | cncfanatics | flexbar is slowly but surely becoming alive |
| 23:23.41 | cncfanatics | now if I get stances working I got a pretty working addon |
| 23:23.42 | Gngsk | flexbar will never be what it once was |
| 23:23.55 | cncfanatics | Gngsk, if I get going like this it will be more |
| 23:24.02 | cncfanatics | minus Blizzard's limitations of course |
| 23:24.15 | cncfanatics | now, i'm gonna go to bed |
| 23:24.19 | cncfanatics | need sleep |
| 23:25.06 | Amadeo | I can't believe id software is selling games on Steam |
| 23:25.07 | Amadeo | that's pretty cool |
| 23:26.36 | Dustwhisper- | is there some logical word/sectioning in your combatlog that tells you when you go into combat and out of combat ? |
| 23:27.02 | Ominous | you can use PLAYER_REGEN_DISABLED for enter combat and opposite for leave |
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| 23:27.40 | Ominous | and PLAYER_REGEN_DISABLED is fired just before you go into combat lockdown |
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| 23:37.37 | Pkekyo | Hinterlands is the most retarded zone ever |
| 23:37.37 | Pkekyo | k. |
| 23:39.03 | Antiarc|Work | Nah. Azshara holds that title. |
| 23:39.51 | Chompers | azshara is like the old silithus |
| 23:39.54 | Chompers | useless |
| 23:40.06 | flexom | stupid prince, why he never drops my mindblade... gah |
| 23:41.08 | CIA-23 | 03morgalm * r45822 10MorgDKP/ (7 files): |
| 23:41.08 | CIA-23 | MorgDKP: |
| 23:41.08 | CIA-23 | - added silent auction option for bidwar (one round no raid chat feedback) |
| 23:41.39 | baer_ | http://img399.imageshack.us/img399/4742/hoggersp1.jpg ; /me (aka Gingles) fighting Hogger. |
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| 23:42.31 | |Stan| | baer_: weeee german :P |
| 23:42.38 | baer_ | yep |
| 23:43.48 | baer_ | modified my UI with SharedLib & pitbull. |
| 23:44.02 | baer_ | really great addon :) |
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| 23:45.33 | baer_ | btw, anyone knows, if there's an option to display a small image of the char/target/whatev near pitbull, similar to perl or agUF? |
| 23:45.51 | Keias | Pitbull has portrait options |
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| 23:46.01 | Keias | Check Modules in the menu to see if it's enabled |
| 23:46.02 | baer_ | great! where are they? |
| 23:46.08 | baer_ | ok, hang on a sec. |
| 23:46.41 | baer_ | found it, thanks. |
| 23:47.20 | baer_ | hmm... mouse wheel does not seem to work anymore. |
| 23:47.34 | baer_ | is there any addon that blocks the mouse wheel? |
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| 23:51.34 | Hjalte | baer_, could be a buff addon trying to buff with your mousewheel. |
| 23:51.52 | baer_ | narf, might be smartbuff |
| 23:54.46 | CIA-23 | 03eraslin * r45823 10DKPmon/Localization/deDE.lua: DKPmon: Fix to deDE. |
| 23:55.24 | CIA-23 | 03eraslin * r45824 10DKPmon_FCZS/localization.deDE.lua: DKPmon_FCZS: Fix to deDE. |
| 23:55.47 | kenlyric | no, smartbuff intelligently lets you do both. |
| 23:56.00 | kenlyric | but simpleselfrebuff does not. |
| 23:56.57 | kenlyric | I figure it will get added eventually, but for now I just rebound to shift mousewheel scroll. |
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| 23:58.39 | baer_ | i deinstalled smartbuff lately |
| 23:59.47 | Diao | uninstalled* |
