| 00:00.10 | Nandini | plus, above 85% dodge, you'd be getting tons of crushings, so you wouldn't run out of rage |
| 00:00.10 | Tuks | i used to lead raids, and force everyone to DISABLE, DELETE; ERASE; KILL KTM |
| 00:00.23 | Tuks | but im not leading this, and everyone is using that piece of shiet |
| 00:00.38 | Keias | The worst people |
| 00:00.41 | Silowyi | Nandini: you'd get the same number of crushing blows you get at 10% dodge |
| 00:00.42 | Keias | Are DPS classes with DPS meters |
| 00:01.08 | mjc | Tuks: the problem is your connection, stop trying to point blame where it does not belong |
| 00:01.09 | Nandini | i mean you wouldn't be taking normal hits at all, but you'd still have crushings to generate rage from |
| 00:01.20 | NightHawkTheSane | Silowyi: well, above 85% avoidance,you'd actually get less crushings..but ;) |
| 00:01.29 | Silowyi | right |
| 00:01.38 | Tuks | i know my conection is shiet |
| 00:01.40 | Tuks | but still |
| 00:01.53 | mjc | Tuks: blizzard does not make any claims about the game being playable on high latency connections |
| 00:01.53 | Tuks | there must be a way to disable the incoming spam of unwanted data |
| 00:01.57 | Nandini | plus with as much agi as you'd have at 80% dodge, you'd be critting like crazy, getting rage back there, and extra threat |
| 00:01.58 | mjc | there is not |
| 00:02.02 | Nandini | and extra heals :) |
| 00:02.16 | mjc | because on any even barely tolerable connection, it doesn't matter |
| 00:02.28 | charon | mjc: well about 27% of that is on trinket use effects and only up for 10 seconds (fully), so you're really only trying to survive |
| 00:02.42 | charon | the nice thing about it is it has only 2mins cd |
| 00:03.09 | mjc | charon: I need to get the one from moroes :o |
| 00:03.23 | mjc | http://armory.worldofwarcraft.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Magtheridon&n=Faunn |
| 00:03.38 | Nandini | yeah, i still have problems getting unlucky with crushing blows from prince for example tho, if i get 3 or 4 in a row i can go from 20k health to zero in like 2 seconds |
| 00:03.53 | Nandini | and that's with like 72% damage reduction |
| 00:03.53 | charon | http://www.wowhead.com/?item=32658 http://www.wowhead.com/?item=28528 |
| 00:03.53 | Silowyi | Nandini what's your overall mitigation? |
| 00:04.21 | mjc | Nandini: I don't have that problem :O |
| 00:04.21 | Nandini | i dunno i would have to go plug them into the web page and find out |
| 00:04.25 | Silowyi | what realm are you on nandini? ^_^ |
| 00:04.37 | Nandini | !c us darrowmere nandini |
| 00:04.40 | ThraeBot | Nandini: Nandini, Level 70 Tauren Druid (1/46/14). 10872 HP; 5570 Mana; 103 mana regen; 5171 Armour; 108.4 Melee DPS; 15.11% melee crit; 20 melee hit; 38 +heal; 204 defense; 26.19% dodge; 65 resilience; 10 nature resist (+10);[[ TBR: 164 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/2bxmbo ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/2w7vff ]] |
| 00:04.52 | mjc | !c us magtheridon faunn |
| 00:04.55 | mjc | that's cute |
| 00:04.55 | ThraeBot | mjc: Faunn, Level 70 Night Elf Druid (0/49/12). 14724 HP; 4955 Mana; 123 mana regen; 6 mp5; 24118 Armour; 1548 AP; 191 Melee DPS; 30.65% melee crit; 35 melee hit; 170 defense; 33.12% dodge; 45 shadow resist; 10 nature resist (+10); +25 all resists (+10 nature);[[ TBR: 548 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/yppsjk ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/327dr2 ]] |
| 00:04.58 | Silowyi | !vs us darromere nandini us whisperwind silowyi |
| 00:04.59 | ThraeBot | Silowyi: Armory parse error. You must have screwed up the command. You suck. |
| 00:05.09 | mjc | LOL |
| 00:05.10 | Silowyi | !vs us darrowmere nandini us whisperwind silowyi |
| 00:05.11 | ThraeBot | Silowyi: Nandini vs Silowyi! Two 70 druids square off!; 1/46/14 vs 0/46/15; Silowyi wins by 480 TBRs! ***OWNED!*** |
| 00:05.12 | mjc | Thrae: hot. |
| 00:05.27 | Silowyi | !c us whisperwind silowyi |
| 00:05.29 | ThraeBot | Silowyi: Silowyi, Level 70 Night Elf Druid (0/46/15). 13514 HP; 5705 Mana; 121 mana regen; 6 mp5; 30634 Armour; 1419 AP; 171.8 Melee DPS; 28.74% melee crit; 4 melee hit; 148 +heal; 146 defense; 35.08% dodge; 49 resilience; 10 nature resist (+10);[[ TBR: 531 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/25jvbz ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/3xtlgh ]] |
| 00:05.31 | Silowyi | probably has me in pvp gear |
| 00:05.41 | mjc | !vs us magtheridon faunn us whisperwind silowyi |
| 00:05.41 | Nandini | you are in bear form :P |
| 00:05.42 | ThraeBot | mjc: Faunn vs Silowyi! Two 70 druids square off!; 0/49/12 vs 0/46/15; Faunn wins by 15 TBRs! |
| 00:05.46 | Silowyi | yup! |
| 00:05.47 | Nandini | i was in caster form :P |
| 00:05.54 | Silowyi | :D |
| 00:06.10 | Nandini | you beat me anyway tho in stats |
| 00:06.10 | charon | http://armory.wow-europe.com/#character-sheet.xml?r=Antonidas&n=Anmoch (yay, for once i'm not on the losing end of the contest) |
| 00:06.18 | sb | Cryect: mhh mana tomb map isnt tat accurate |
| 00:06.28 | CIA-14 | 03adirelle * r46814 10ACP/ACP.lua: ACP: deleted addons are now removed from protected addon list, to avoid ACP proposing us to reload thoses addons. |
| 00:07.00 | Silowyi | so armory actually gets your cat/bear stats right now if you log out in forms, nifty keen |
| 00:07.23 | Nandini | yuppers |
| 00:07.36 | Nandini | also buffs you log out with |
| 00:07.44 | Silowyi | yeah I knew that part |
| 00:08.01 | Nandini | i assume since cat and bear form are buffs they get counted too, hopefully it stays that way :) |
| 00:08.08 | Silowyi | Sil is probably going to switch over to mostly res gear over defense pretty soon |
| 00:08.57 | Silowyi | well except for rings and necklace |
| 00:09.23 | Nandini | just for pvp? you may want to keep your cloak too |
| 00:09.34 | Silowyi | so no one knows how to continue; or next; in a loop in lua |
| 00:09.35 | Silowyi | ? |
| 00:10.15 | NightHawkTheSane | Silowyi: just use a well crafted if statement? |
| 00:10.16 | Nandini | are you writing an iterator function? there is a decent topic on lua-users.org discussing it i think |
| 00:10.38 | Silowyi | sigh, I hate enclosing everything in an if though :P |
| 00:11.03 | Nandini | if seems to be heavily relied upon to do everything in lua, i've come to accept it |
| 00:11.35 | NightHawkTheSane | that seems to be lua's take on everything. "You can do it with if, so let's not bother making an actual construct for it." |
| 00:11.52 | Nandini | i suppose that could be one of the things that they use to keep it simple |
| 00:12.03 | NightHawkTheSane | *shrug* |
| 00:12.16 | NightHawkTheSane | its a trade off, simple language vs simple code i guess. |
| 00:12.37 | Silowyi | end; end; end; end; end; end; end; end; end; ... et al ... end; |
| 00:12.58 | Nandini | lol yup, it's scary how far indented some of my code becomes with nested loops |
| 00:13.06 | Nandini | that would really be UNTHINKABLE in so many other languages |
| 00:13.07 | Silowyi | do you have comments like... |
| 00:13.20 | Silowyi | -- Insert 30 tabs before the following lines |
| 00:13.29 | Silowyi | :p |
| 00:13.35 | Nandini | lol yes i count the number of tabs for each level and put them in a comment at the top |
| 00:13.46 | Nandini | if .... -- 5 tabs |
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| 00:14.49 | Nandini | i use LuaEdit for most of my writing, and it has an 80 column guide on the screen |
| 00:14.55 | Silowyi | one nice thing is that in most cases I can find another if already there that I can simply "ifelse" |
| 00:15.01 | Silowyi | :p |
| 00:15.26 | Silowyi | elseif rather |
| 00:15.36 | Silowyi | wtb less bash scripting while working on lua :P |
| 00:15.46 | Nandini | but i'm glad i have 2560x1024, so my long lines are usually entirely readable |
| 00:15.47 | Silowyi | actually that's not even bash |
| 00:15.50 | Silowyi | *shrug* |
| 00:16.28 | NightHawkTheSane | that reminds me of vb.net's "orelse" and "andalso" >< |
| 00:16.32 | NightHawkTheSane | god that's so idiotic. |
| 00:16.47 | kenlyric | ANDTHEN |
| 00:17.05 | mjc | while I have you druid pals floating aorund |
| 00:17.06 | Silowyi | ever coded in ruby? |
| 00:17.15 | mjc | more effective in dps gear or tank gear in 2v2? |
| 00:17.17 | Silowyi | you can do stuff like this |
| 00:17.19 | mjc | Silowyi: ruby rocks |
| 00:17.23 | Silowyi | a == b and b = 1 |
| 00:17.32 | NightHawkTheSane | yeah, a little, i'm vaguely learning it while i convert one of my projects into rails |
| 00:17.51 | Silowyi | drives my coworkers insane |
| 00:18.09 | Silowyi | so I've started doing b = 1 if a == b and they seem to understand that a bit better. |
| 00:18.10 | NightHawkTheSane | Silowyi: that's terrible style :P |
| 00:18.12 | Silowyi | :P |
| 00:18.20 | NightHawkTheSane | the latter is much better. |
| 00:18.41 | Silowyi | begin; b = 1; end if a == b |
| 00:18.42 | Nandini | you will not do appreciable damage in tank gear in arena |
| 00:19.06 | Silowyi | don't ask me about 2v2 right now, I'm about to kill my paladin |
| 00:19.07 | Nandini | i'd suggest get the non-epic pvp set and the rogue pvp non-set epics to start out |
| 00:19.13 | Silowyi | we lost 150 points yesterday |
| 00:19.39 | Nandini | use your tanking rings/neck/cloak with that for extra stam |
| 00:20.12 | Silowyi | the annoying thing is we lost to EVERY SINGLE no-healer team we came across. And it was always him complaining about being CCed. |
| 00:20.29 | Silowyi | a paladin... complaining about cc... |
| 00:20.30 | Nandini | i have a very hard time in 2v2 as feral, the winningest i ever was was when i went with a rogue |
| 00:20.57 | Silowyi | what kills me is the cookie cutter teams like pally rogue, pally druid, etc... we tend to shred |
| 00:21.11 | Silowyi | pally mage, pally warlock |
| 00:21.46 | Silowyi | even figured out how to kill resto druid/bm hunter which I think is the most op arena combo atm in 2v2 |
| 00:23.02 | Nandini | resto druids (or mostly resto) seem to have good success in arenas |
| 00:23.11 | Silowyi | its cause of instant heals |
| 00:23.23 | Silowyi | a druid can keep rejuv and lifebloom up all day |
| 00:24.00 | Silowyi | nothing like seeing 880 per tick rejuvs |
| 00:24.02 | Nandini | plus they can CC a melee target for a bit and interrupt a healer for a bit |
| 00:24.54 | Silowyi | what I hate are priest/warrior combo where the warrior doesn't go after my paladin |
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| 00:25.26 | Nandini | yeah we don't have very many escape options |
| 00:25.43 | Nandini | they can usually run your healer oom |
| 00:25.47 | Nandini | even a pally |
| 00:25.48 | Silowyi | hamstring makes kitties sad |
| 00:26.26 | Silowyi | well its more that I can't effectively keep a priest from manaburning him to death when hamstring is being reapplied after every shift |
| 00:26.51 | Nandini | yeah i wish they made it so we were immune for a few seconds after shifting |
| 00:26.51 | Silowyi | so I essentially only have 15 second windows of BoF to annoy the priest. |
| 00:27.02 | Silowyi | Nandini we used to be |
| 00:27.06 | Silowyi | 1 sec immunity |
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| 00:27.32 | Silowyi | long long long time ago though :) |
| 00:27.39 | QuantumDelta | *Pokies ckknight with a stick* |
| 00:28.05 | Nandini | i usually don't last long enough, but does hamstring have diminishing returns? such that we become immune after the 3rd one? |
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| 00:28.52 | Nandini | i seem to recall limping all the way across the field in WSG with a warrior hamstringing me all the way |
| 00:29.16 | Nandini | until i ran out of mana to shift |
| 00:29.30 | Silowyi | no, hamstring has no diminishing returns |
| 00:29.51 | Nandini | well that is one "improvement" to it they should consider heheh |
| 00:30.37 | Silowyi | well if you have the 15% speed bonus hamstring doesn't hurt all that much. |
| 00:30.54 | Silowyi | then you limp around at about 75% |
| 00:31.07 | Nandini | it's about 65% in cat form still |
| 00:31.20 | Silowyi | 65% is hamstring without the 15% bonus :) |
| 00:31.48 | Silowyi | actually, I should test that, I'm not sure if hamstring is multiplicative or not |
| 00:32.14 | Silowyi | if it's additive then pvp gear would bring us to 95% with hamstring outdoors |
| 00:32.18 | Diao | no |
| 00:32.22 | Diao | hamstring needs no DR |
| 00:32.36 | Diao | unlike some classes, warriors actually need to be on top of their target at all times |
| 00:32.42 | Mudkipz | its just funny that warriors 10 feet behind me can keep me hamstringed |
| 00:32.57 | Diao | lag issue |
| 00:33.01 | Silowyi | tbh if they fixed the druid melee range bug it wouldn't be so much of an issue |
| 00:33.07 | Diao | it's the same reason piercing howl never hits anyone |
| 00:33.10 | Diao | even if you're on top of them |
| 00:33.10 | Nandini | yeah that is annoying |
| 00:33.24 | Silowyi | having to teabag myself to hit someone is annoying. |
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| 00:33.29 | Nandini | i have to basically be in front of someone i'm chasing to hit them |
| 00:33.46 | Mudkipz | and its impossible to get in front of them if they are doing zig zags |
| 00:33.51 | Mudkipz | even with 15% more runspeed |
| 00:34.28 | Nandini | i think it's 70% for cat form outside hamstringed, it's 140% normally with the bonus |
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| 00:34.59 | Silowyi | you know what I love, they've actually acknowledged the cat range issue, not the NE one but the druid one in general |
| 00:35.25 | Silowyi | but they said that the NE one was easy to fix while the druid in general one was a model error |
| 00:35.30 | Nandini | yeah it's not really a range issue so much as a model issue |
| 00:35.39 | Silowyi | but lets think about it |
| 00:35.51 | Nandini | and if they fixed our hit box, we'd be easier to hit from behind too i think |
| 00:35.55 | Mudkipz | well unless you train yourself to move the head of the cat to your tail |
| 00:36.06 | Silowyi | if its a model issue that you know exists, just increase the range. |
| 00:36.15 | Mudkipz | its still very deceiving because refer to the model they see in front of the screen |
| 00:36.17 | Nandini | the range of our abilities? |
| 00:36.24 | Mudkipz | people * |
| 00:36.29 | Tuks | anny addon to track who break sheeps? |
| 00:36.38 | Silowyi | Mudkipz the problem with that is that its very very easy to end up in front of your opponent and unable to hit them. |
| 00:37.00 | Nandini | we have a 1 yard margin of error on a melee attack that says it has 5 yard range |
| 00:37.06 | Silowyi | exactly |
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| 00:37.34 | Nandini | but in order for us to hit a target from further away than our model center, we also have to become hittable from further away |
| 00:38.00 | Silowyi | so just increase the range of abilities |
| 00:38.00 | Nandini | so it would appear you could hit a running druid from further away as well |
| 00:38.15 | Silowyi | if you can sap someone from 9 yards away I'm sure you could make mangle hit at 6 or 7 |
| 00:38.26 | Diao | isn't that only with imp sap |
| 00:38.45 | Diao | it's not even a big deal |
| 00:38.47 | Diao | when ip layed my druid |
| 00:38.49 | Silowyi | point still stands, Blizzard can change range of abilities. |
| 00:38.52 | Diao | i never had trouble |
| 00:38.55 | Diao | hitting people in cat or bear |
| 00:39.03 | Silowyi | the issue doesn't exist in bear |
| 00:39.14 | Silowyi | as near as I can tell anyway |
| 00:39.27 | Diao | i always hit everyone with shred |
| 00:39.28 | Diao | it was easy |
| 00:39.55 | Nandini | well technically it does, when we charge something, our model is the standard distance away from them, but our hitbox is too far away to hit them |
| 00:40.07 | Silowyi | really? |
| 00:40.12 | Nandini | that may be a lag issue tho |
| 00:40.28 | Nandini | where your character and the other player stop moving at slightly different times from the charge |
| 00:40.31 | Silowyi | I never had a problem in bear form, I also tend to float a maul before charge similar to the way warriors do it |
| 00:41.30 | Nandini | but yes with shred, it's constantly "you are too far away, you are too far away, you are too far away, you must be behind your target, you are too far away" |
| 00:42.17 | Nandini | i'm running at least 32% faster than anyone in there, how the hell can i always be too far away then too far ahead then too far behind like that? LOL |
| 00:42.25 | Mudkipz | you wouldn't be able to shred moving players if you didn't have the talented runspeed increase |
| 00:42.44 | Silowyi | yup |
| 00:42.50 | Nandini | i do have it, plus the 15% bonus for a total of 140% run speed outdoors in cat form |
| 00:42.54 | Mudkipz | its really noticeable when you see white hitting and you still get error messages on your specials |
| 00:42.59 | Mudkipz | that really kills me |
| 00:43.17 | Silowyi | yup |
| 00:43.41 | Mudkipz | my satellite is down again |
| 00:44.25 | Nandini | in the 6 years i've lived here, my cable has never gone out, even thru power outages, wind storms, tornados, flash flooding, i've been impressed |
| 00:45.08 | Mudkipz | its fta satellite box :P |
| 00:46.21 | Mudkipz | bleh I think I'll play some cs:s |
| 00:46.51 | Nandini | and i am gonna go eat |
| 00:49.08 | Silowyi | I see you can remove an element from a table by position... |
| 00:49.21 | Silowyi | can you remove an element from a table by key? |
| 00:49.48 | Silowyi | like table.remove(my_table,"a_key") |
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| 00:51.52 | Mihara | hello? |
| 00:55.41 | Silowyi | hello? |
| 00:56.24 | RogueShadow | hello? |
| 00:56.38 | Industrial | rofl the next spiderman http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A02s8omM_hI |
| 00:57.11 | NightHawkTheSane | ... Are you at a place called vertigo? |
| 00:58.16 | Industrial | vertigo? |
| 00:58.30 | Mihara | Does anyone happen to know what the parent name of Quartz_buffbars are? |
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| 00:59.34 | Shirik | anyone here familiar with SSC? |
| 01:00.00 | Silowyi | how familar with what part of it? |
| 01:00.13 | NightHawkTheSane | i'm familiar with your mom. |
| 01:00.17 | Industrial | woooo |
| 01:00.19 | Shirik | nm I got it worked out :P |
| 01:00.39 | ccKep | must've been a hard question if you worked it out in 35secs ;) |
| 01:00.53 | ccKep | oh teh noes, it was 45secs |
| 01:00.56 | ccKep | << stupid |
| 01:01.28 | Mihara | :\ |
| 01:01.34 | Shirik | well |
| 01:01.38 | Shirik | didn't really work it out |
| 01:01.43 | Shirik | but we decided on something else instead :P |
| 01:02.04 | NightHawkTheSane | your mom should've.. umm.. meh, fuckit. |
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| 01:10.41 | Mihara | OK! |
| 01:10.47 | Mihara | someone help me! |
| 01:10.58 | Mihara | enough with the mom stufff |
| 01:11.27 | Mihara | oh yeah pretend to be afk :P |
| 01:12.19 | Silowyi | don't know, sorry Mihara :( |
| 01:12.20 | NightHawkTheSane | Yes, thank you, I will. |
| 01:12.40 | Mihara | :\ |
| 01:12.46 | Mihara | noone knows :'( |
| 01:12.58 | Mihara | I dont even think it has a parent name :\ |
| 01:14.05 | Mihara | does anyone know of a debuff timer similar to quartz buffbar? |
| 01:14.24 | Mihara | with the icon and time remaining? |
| 01:18.01 | ulic | ElkBuffBars will do buff, debuff, and weapon buffs, and you can white/black list stuff |
| 01:18.09 | ulic | and it does the icon |
| 01:22.15 | Mihara | hmm |
| 01:22.29 | Mihara | does it do targets debuffs |
| 01:22.52 | Mihara | I dont need the debuffs/buff frames for myself |
| 01:23.20 | Mihara | http://i110.photobucket.com/albums/n109/nightfallii/WoWScrnShot_070407_191650.jpg |
| 01:23.25 | Mihara | do you see his expose armor |
| 01:23.30 | Mihara | something similar to that |
| 01:26.28 | ulic | no, just player |
| 01:27.21 | kenlyric | that's a quartz bar |
| 01:27.31 | kenlyric | which does do target buffs. |
| 01:28.06 | Mihara | ... |
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| 01:28.11 | Mihara | the problem is |
| 01:28.36 | Mihara | I cant seem to find the parent name of the quartz buffbar so I can give it a eepanel background |
| 01:30.54 | kenlyric | oh. |
| 01:30.56 | sylvanaar | whats the name of the threatmeter and damage meter again? |
| 01:30.56 | kenlyric | dunno about that. |
| 01:31.06 | Mikk | sylvanaar: Violation? |
| 01:31.23 | ulic | sylvanaar: which one? violation, assessment, recount, all do both those I believe |
| 01:31.33 | kenlyric | ClassTimers will show class specific debufrfs on mobs. |
| 01:32.42 | Mihara | classtimers eh? |
| 01:33.02 | kenlyric | I use it instead of the quartz buff timers, but I can't remember why right now. |
| 01:33.51 | Mihara | is it good lol? |
| 01:34.26 | kenlyric | it's just different. |
| 01:34.32 | Mihara | does it have icons? |
| 01:34.39 | Mihara | scale able? |
| 01:34.44 | Mihara | textures? |
| 01:35.01 | kenlyric | oh yeah. |
| 01:35.12 | Mihara | ok |
| 01:35.25 | kergoth | classtimers shows stuff on you and your pet, not just target/focus like quartz.. but quartz shows any of your buffs/debuffs, not just a specific hardcoded list.. so quartz showed me # of my scorpion's poison stack, where classtimer doesnt |
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| 01:36.53 | Mihara | oh |
| 01:37.07 | Mihara | I would really like to use quartz but |
| 01:37.07 | kergoth | so therse advantages and disadvantages to each |
| 01:37.19 | Mihara | I cant seem to find the name of the parent panel |
| 01:37.24 | Mihara | of the buffbar |
| 01:37.30 | kenlyric | yeah, maybe that's why I didn't want the quartz one. Cause it showed stuff like fort and spirit on targets. |
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| 01:37.54 | kenlyric | they usually attach to a unitframe. |
| 01:37.55 | Mihara | I just want to see my debuff timer on the target im targeting |
| 01:38.02 | kergoth | hehe, thats funny. thats why i did want the quartz one, at leas ton my hunter.. did miss seeing mend pet and stuff without having it targeted tho |
| 01:38.15 | Mihara | http://i110.photobucket.com/albums/n109/nightfallii/WoWScrnShot_070407_191650.jpg<_- |
| 01:38.31 | Mihara | I want it the way he sets his debuff timer up |
| 01:38.38 | kenlyric | yeah, I don't care how long fort has, I care how long renew has :) |
| 01:38.41 | Mihara | see the expose armour |
| 01:39.04 | kenlyric | ok, but why do you need a panel for that? |
| 01:39.27 | Mihara | because quartz buff bars dont have a background |
| 01:39.31 | Mihara | or border |
| 01:39.46 | Mihara | only the casting and mirror bars do |
| 01:40.12 | Mihara | I dont know too much lua to edit it in myself :| |
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| 01:41.08 | pb_ee1 | Erm... do you think I can replace the Tangerin.ttf font in SharedMedia with Movie_Poster-Bold.ttf? |
| 01:41.33 | Mihara | why dont you just add it? |
| 01:41.39 | pb_ee1 | It is nearly the same font (Movie is a bit smaller), but Tangerin does not display correctly ":", "[", "]", ... |
| 01:41.47 | Diao | hey |
| 01:41.52 | Diao | is there any way to enable millisecond precision in prat? |
| 01:41.54 | Diao | for timestamps |
| 01:41.56 | Mihara | I use big noodle |
| 01:42.09 | sylvanaar | yeah, i think |
| 01:42.11 | pb_ee1 | Or I could add it, too, but it's mainly because the font isn't displaying the text correctly |
| 01:42.22 | sylvanaar | im not sure why do you even need it |
| 01:42.27 | pb_ee1 | Instead of "Dead 12:34" you have "Dead 1234" |
| 01:42.49 | Mihara | use myriad |
| 01:43.06 | sylvanaar | Diao go look up the format specifiers |
| 01:43.20 | pb_ee1 | What should I do? Replace Tangerin? Add Movie? Use the "MyMedia files" folder but that would mean i'll have to add it each time I update? |
| 01:43.26 | Diao | it's for um |
| 01:43.27 | Diao | combat log |
| 01:43.31 | Diao | to see exact death/hit times |
| 01:43.41 | Diao | where would i find it? |
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| 01:43.53 | Mihara | or you could just save that file |
| 01:44.01 | Mihara | update then over write |
| 01:44.07 | sylvanaar | Diao well, its in prats source, the wiki page, the forum thread, etc |
| 01:44.22 | Diao | oh ok |
| 01:44.28 | sylvanaar | it may even be in the module in-game |
| 01:44.51 | pb_ee1 | Mihara, you mean overwrite the existing tangerin by movie, but using the same name? |
| 01:45.09 | Mihara | you could do that |
| 01:45.17 | Diao | is it based off the php strftime? |
| 01:45.22 | Mihara | but I would just add it in following the instructions |
| 01:45.29 | pb_ee1 | k |
| 01:45.29 | Mihara | its fairly simple |
| 01:45.42 | pb_ee1 | I'll add it |
| 01:45.46 | sylvanaar | Diao looks like curney took it out - so strftime |
| 01:45.48 | pb_ee1 | Just wanted to know if I could |
| 01:45.53 | sylvanaar | C strftime |
| 01:45.58 | Diao | oh |
| 01:46.00 | Diao | ok |
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| 01:48.01 | Diao | hmm |
| 01:48.06 | Diao | default strftime doesn't seem to support milliseconds :( |
| 01:49.02 | CIA-14 | 03pb_ee1 * r46815 10SharedMedia/ (SharedMedia.lua fonts/Movie_Poster-Bold.ttf): SharedMedia: Adding Movie Poster font to give an alternative to Tangerine that does not display all characters correctly (ex: ":", "[", "]", ...) |
| 01:49.27 | pb_ee1 | Going to bed, nn ;) |
| 01:50.56 | Diao | but i've seen someone |
| 01:51.07 | Diao | with combat log that has millisecond precision |
| 01:52.18 | sylvanaar | using GetTime() differentials |
| 01:53.39 | NightHawkTheSane | I don't think I really like rilo kiley's new album. |
| 01:53.55 | sylvanaar | the format string is passed to gettime() |
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| 01:54.26 | sylvanaar | no, nevermind |
| 01:54.37 | sylvanaar | there is a local implementation of GetTime() |
| 01:55.25 | sylvanaar | prat's debug statements show miliseconds lol |
| 01:55.33 | Diao | lol |
| 01:55.47 | Diao | is there a way you could add a format option for ms? |
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| 02:00.02 | Mihara | yeah ok |
| 02:00.03 | Mihara | so |
| 02:00.11 | Mihara | same problem with class timers lol |
| 02:00.18 | Mihara | I cant figure out the parent name |
| 02:00.25 | Mihara | and it doesnt have a border >< |
| 02:00.40 | Mihara | its basically quartz without the other bars lol |
| 02:00.59 | Mihara | when I do the mouse over thing to find out the parent name |
| 02:01.03 | Mihara | I get nil |
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| 02:02.24 | Mihara | does anyone know what im talking about? |
| 02:03.08 | ulic | know what you're talking about, yes. know the answer, no. |
| 02:03.33 | sylvanaar | Diao sounds like alot of work |
| 02:03.48 | Mihara | >< |
| 02:04.28 | Diao | :( |
| 02:04.35 | Diao | i'll look around for something that can do it i guess |
| 02:04.41 | Mihara | where is nymbia >< he created this |
| 02:04.41 | Diao | cause i know i've seen one |
| 02:04.57 | sylvanaar | awa |
| 02:05.10 | sylvanaar | not tomention that that level of accuracy is not possible |
| 02:05.23 | sylvanaar | you would be precise but not accurate |
| 02:09.23 | xyu | why is whirl hitting out of melee range peoples >< |
| 02:09.26 | xyu | on lurker |
| 02:09.29 | xyu | i was told it wouldn't >< |
| 02:09.32 | Mihara | im going to try chronometer maybe it might have a parent frame |
| 02:09.35 | sb | sylvanaar: please fix "..." url copy stuff :o |
| 02:09.44 | sb | oh nvm |
| 02:09.45 | sb | its fixed? :p |
| 02:09.51 | sb | hmno |
| 02:09.54 | ulic | everything has a parent, just a matter of finding it. |
| 02:10.01 | sb | "test...." -> [test....] |
| 02:10.11 | Mihara | how? |
| 02:10.15 | Mihara | I only know that macro |
| 02:10.22 | Mihara | Ive been searching the code too |
| 02:10.30 | ulic | probably digging through the lua if that macro isn't working. |
| 02:10.44 | ulic | or xml, if the addon uses the xml file. |
| 02:11.20 | NightHawkTheSane | More than likely both classtimer, quartz, and chronometer all use candybars for their bar frame creation/management. |
| 02:11.30 | NightHawkTheSane | So I doubt you'll have more luck with one than another. |
| 02:12.52 | Mihara | its not chronometer lol |
| 02:12.57 | Mihara | just tried it :x |
| 02:13.35 | Mihara | its probably quartz |
| 02:13.43 | ulic | which of those do you like the best, minus the fact that you can't find the parent. |
| 02:13.52 | Mihara | quartz |
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| 02:18.31 | ulic | Mihara: try QuartzTargetBar for the frame |
| 02:18.42 | Mihara | ok |
| 02:19.03 | Mihara | lol I just imported it into dreamweaver and I saw that |
| 02:19.15 | ulic | into dreamweaver? |
| 02:19.24 | Mihara | yeah |
| 02:20.04 | Mihara | Im a web designer using dreamweaver makes it easy to read |
| 02:20.33 | RaydenUni | dreamweaver? |
| 02:20.41 | RaydenUni | at least its not frontpage |
| 02:20.46 | ulic | probably script editors that have less overhead than DW, but ok :) |
| 02:20.58 | RaydenUni | i guess i'm not a designer |
| 02:21.07 | RaydenUni | i'm a programmer, but all the web stuff i do i just use a text editor |
| 02:21.15 | CIA-14 | 03zuno * r46816 10UnitActionBars/ (Action.lua ActionButton.lua ButtonTemplates.xml): |
| 02:21.15 | CIA-14 | UnitActionBars: |
| 02:21.15 | CIA-14 | - Support for action buttons staying "checked" while spell is casting, or item is being used. |
| 02:21.19 | RaydenUni | i wonder what my friend who is a web designer uses |
| 02:21.23 | RaydenUni | probably the standard mac one |
| 02:21.24 | NightHawkTheSane | dreamweaver makes real web developers cry. |
| 02:21.35 | Mihara | textmate |
| 02:21.40 | Mihara | iI use on my mac |
| 02:21.42 | NightHawkTheSane | textmate or bbeditlikely |
| 02:21.42 | RaydenUni | probably |
| 02:21.44 | RaydenUni | he works for apple |
| 02:21.53 | Mihara | ah |
| 02:21.54 | NightHawkTheSane | those are the two best text/code editors |
| 02:22.01 | RaydenUni | textmate looks sweet |
| 02:22.01 | loonacy | I like Bluefish. |
| 02:22.01 | Mihara | yeah ulic that wasnt it >< |
| 02:22.03 | RaydenUni | i wish i could use it |
| 02:22.08 | ulic | really? |
| 02:22.10 | Funkeh` | oh wow |
| 02:22.15 | Mihara | yeah :\ |
| 02:22.23 | NightHawkTheSane | TextMate is okay, but it's really unpolished |
| 02:22.23 | Funkeh` | just watching a divdx movie when my screen starts going black |
| 02:22.27 | RaydenUni | bluefish java? |
| 02:22.27 | NightHawkTheSane | at least compared to bbedit |
| 02:22.36 | Funkeh` | 'welcome to divx desktop dimmer' ...nice |
| 02:22.53 | NightHawkTheSane | Funkeh`: Alliteration! |
| 02:23.00 | Funkeh` | its late fuck you |
| 02:23.18 | Funkeh` | but it is awesome |
| 02:23.52 | Mihara | : |
| 02:25.01 | NightHawkTheSane | ... but i LIKE alliteration. |
| 02:26.27 | Mihara | see I see this .. CreateFrame ('StatusBar', QuartzBuffBar, UIParent) |
| 02:26.52 | Mihara | its not statusbar or Quartzbuffbar... |
| 02:29.23 | Mihara | ive been trying to get this for 2 days already >< |
| 02:30.15 | ulic | you're using the exact case right? |
| 02:30.31 | kergoth | hmm.. cat or wind serpent? i can't decide |
| 02:30.52 | Silowyi | scorpid! |
| 02:31.15 | Mihara | yeah |
| 02:31.24 | Mihara | im obeying the case rules |
| 02:31.45 | kergoth | already have one.. but if http://www.maniasarcania.com/2007/08/17/ptr-220-scorpid-poison-changes/ is accurate.. |
| 02:31.50 | kergoth | then its time for a cat or wind serpent |
| 02:31.51 | kergoth | heh |
| 02:31.52 | Mihara | I basically copy and paste to test it |
| 02:32.04 | kergoth | though i'll miss George :( |
| 02:38.52 | NightHawkTheSane | boar! |
| 02:40.39 | Mihara | :\ |
| 02:40.40 | JoshBorke | Mikk: ping |
| 02:42.08 | Mihara | doesnt ocb have a debuff timer? |
| 02:42.33 | JoshBorke | no, ocb hasn't been updated in a while |
| 02:42.50 | Mihara | oh |
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| 02:43.40 | Mihara | its not QuartzBuff >< |
| 02:43.53 | Mihara | I feel like im close lol |
| 02:43.53 | sb | hmmm |
| 02:43.56 | sb | kergoth: confirmed? :p |
| 02:44.03 | kergoth | NightHawkTheSane, have one, he's for farming, but i need a dps pet for instances |
| 02:44.10 | kergoth | sb, not sure, havent abandoned the scorp just yet :P |
| 02:44.23 | NightHawkTheSane | ravager, then |
| 02:44.28 | sb | hmyep |
| 02:44.35 | sb | ah btw |
| 02:44.44 | kergoth | course the boar is stuck at like 63 or something, pet leveling blows |
| 02:44.44 | sb | netherweing mine ravager - are they usable? |
| 02:44.59 | sb | lvl 70-71 |
| 02:45.02 | sb | no leveling then :p |
| 02:45.13 | NightHawkTheSane | there's the ones not in the mine on netherwing ledge, too |
| 02:45.20 | sb | 'nethermine ravager' |
| 02:45.23 | NightHawkTheSane | i dont know if they're trainable either, though |
| 02:46.13 | Wobin | feh |
| 02:46.21 | Wobin | that scorpid change was needed |
| 02:46.25 | Wobin | s/change/fix/ |
| 02:46.32 | Silowyi | what scoprid fix? |
| 02:46.55 | ckknight | QuantumDelta: *pokies back* |
| 02:46.57 | Wobin | http://www.maniasarcania.com/2007/06/28/that-scorpid-poison-stacking-thing/ |
| 02:47.11 | QuantumDelta | ah |
| 02:47.14 | QuantumDelta | Uhm |
| 02:47.22 | QuantumDelta | I hard-crashed my wow using pitbull |
| 02:47.23 | ckknight | Nandini: bah, can't you just edit metalayout and send me a patch? |
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| 02:47.37 | QuantumDelta | I still have the error log from the wowerror.exe |
| 02:47.40 | QuantumDelta | any use for you? |
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| 02:48.25 | Wobin | kergoth: Hehe, one of my friends has the ghost sabre |
| 02:48.31 | Wobin | Which he tamed at level 70 |
| 02:48.36 | Wobin | The cat is now level 70 |
| 02:48.41 | Wobin | >< |
| 02:48.48 | Wobin | Now -that- is patience =P |
| 02:48.53 | QuantumDelta | I know exactly how I produced the crash as well (converted to a raid whilst using raid 'config' screen) :P |
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| 02:49.19 | NightHawkTheSane | Wobin: that's sick. |
| 02:49.27 | Wobin | yuhuh =) |
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| 02:49.40 | Wobin | It's a very cool looking cat, though |
| 02:49.49 | Wobin | If I ever make another hunter, I'll go get it |
| 02:49.58 | ckknight | Kirkburn: pong |
| 02:50.06 | ckknight | sylvanaar: pong |
| 02:50.06 | Wobin | but there's no way I'm levelling that cat 50 levels |
| 02:50.15 | Cidan | ping pong?1 |
| 02:50.20 | Cidan | me loves me some ping pong |
| 02:50.29 | QuantumDelta | I guess that's a no ckknight? :P |
| 02:50.30 | sylvanaar | ckknight i forgot what i was going to ask |
| 02:50.40 | ckknight | QuantumDelta: sorry, I pong everyone at once |
| 02:50.44 | QuantumDelta | hehe |
| 02:51.07 | Kirkburn | ckknight, it was a ping about the WoW Insider article |
| 02:51.08 | ckknight | QuantumDelta: um, hrm, the wowerror thing doesn't really help, in reality, it's a Blizzard bug |
| 02:51.12 | ckknight | Kirkburn: ah, okay, I saw that |
| 02:51.16 | QuantumDelta | alrighty ;) |
| 02:51.17 | ckknight | surprised at the trolls |
| 02:51.20 | ckknight | they can go suck a nut. |
| 02:51.21 | Kirkburn | Me too :/ |
| 02:51.28 | ckknight | also, why do we need help? |
| 02:51.28 | Wobin | Kirkburn: link? |
| 02:51.31 | ckknight | I'm confused |
| 02:51.35 | sag_ich_nicht | ckknight: so does that mean you like nuts? |
| 02:51.41 | Kirkburn | Wobin, WOW Insider, nublet |
| 02:51.44 | Wobin | Pine nuts |
| 02:51.45 | ckknight | in moderation, sag_ich_nicht |
| 02:51.48 | Wobin | Pistachio nuts |
| 02:51.52 | Wobin | white pistachio nuts |
| 02:51.55 | Wobin | macadamia nuts |
| 02:52.09 | Wobin | And my mother said, "Harlan, if you don't stop naming those damn nuts..." |
| 02:52.13 | NightHawkTheSane | i love pistachios |
| 02:52.33 | NightHawkTheSane | I could seriously kill a man for pistachios rightnow |
| 02:53.02 | JoshBorke | night all |
| 02:53.18 | sag_ich_nicht | i have pistachios :O |
| 02:53.28 | sag_ich_nicht | i don't even want some atm |
| 02:53.38 | sag_ich_nicht | i just eat them to annoy you :O |
| 02:53.53 | NightHawkTheSane | actually, if i really cared, i'd just go buy some. |
| 02:54.16 | sag_ich_nicht | doesn't change the fact that i have them RIGHT NOW |
| 02:54.36 | NightHawkTheSane | the grocery store is a block away, "meh" ;) |
| 02:54.40 | kergoth | Wobin, wow, i was tempted to do that.. but after getting my 30-something rfk boar to 63, i said fuck the ghost saber |
| 02:55.28 | Wobin | kergoth: bah |
| 02:55.40 | Wobin | I couldn't even get BrokenTooth to 60 at 60 |
| 02:55.54 | Wobin | and that was only what, 12 levels or so |
| 02:56.19 | kergoth | whats really sad is i had leveled with an rfk boar, and we were both 65 or so, and i went and switched to a new rfk boar cause i liked the other coloring better |
| 02:56.23 | kergoth | :P |
| 02:56.44 | sag_ich_nicht | lawl. |
| 02:56.59 | ckknight | imho, they should make leveling low pets a lot easier when you're high level, i.e. not take forever. Possibly in a P' = 1 - P form or so |
| 02:57.09 | kergoth | yea, its a real pain |
| 02:58.00 | Mihara | yeah |
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| 02:58.13 | Mihara | um quartz buff bar doesnt have a parent name |
| 02:58.14 | kenlyric | you just shouldn't have to level a pet. It's goofy mechanic. |
| 02:58.19 | Mihara | its just nil |
| 02:58.25 | ckknight | if I had my MMO, it would make leveling low pets easier :-P |
| 02:58.29 | Mihara | the mirror bar doesnt have one either |
| 02:58.37 | Chompers | the ckk experience |
| 02:58.48 | ckknight | lol, I need to come up with a name for it |
| 02:58.49 | sag_ich_nicht | ckknight no, you wouldn't, because then players wouldn't take so long to do it, making you earn less money |
| 02:58.50 | sag_ich_nicht | >:O |
| 02:59.06 | ckknight | sag_ich_nicht: just pets, though |
| 02:59.10 | ckknight | not normal chars |
| 02:59.11 | sag_ich_nicht | No. 1 Point of an MMO: provide as many stealth timesinks as possible |
| 02:59.16 | sag_ich_nicht | *a |
| 02:59.20 | kenlyric | it used to make sense, when lower level pets sometimes had outrageously useful abilities, to make you suffer for getting them at 60. |
| 02:59.24 | sag_ich_nicht | ...no actually an, because EM |
| 02:59.25 | sag_ich_nicht | >< |
| 02:59.29 | kenlyric | but it's all just cosmetics now. |
| 02:59.57 | NightHawkTheSane | "Then you guys can get right back to saving the world. FOr the seventh time." "Eigth." "What, you're counting?" |
| 03:00.43 | kenlyric | ack! they added a level 70 version of my cat :/ http://petopia.brashendeavors.net/html/skins/skin_lynxskinred.shtml |
| 03:00.46 | sag_ich_nicht | ...which EP? :O |
| 03:00.51 | kenlyric | not tameable... now. |
| 03:00.51 | sag_ich_nicht | i think it's season 7 |
| 03:00.56 | sag_ich_nicht | but i'm not sure about the ep |
| 03:01.18 | NightHawkTheSane | sag_ich_nicht: 608, The Other Guys |
| 03:01.26 | sag_ich_nicht | ...you are slow :O |
| 03:01.42 | sag_ich_nicht | i watched the whole first season of heroes in one night D: |
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| 03:02.10 | Wobin | Now your brains are leaking out of your ears |
| 03:02.23 | sag_ich_nicht | no |
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| 03:02.28 | sag_ich_nicht | i have a tinitus atm tho |
| 03:02.29 | NightHawkTheSane | sag_ich_nicht: I do have a job, and other things to do. ;) |
| 03:02.31 | Wobin | Then youo're not doing it right |
| 03:02.31 | sag_ich_nicht | lawl vikin metal :O |
| 03:02.36 | sag_ich_nicht | NightHawkTheSane so do i :P |
| 03:02.58 | sag_ich_nicht | OOOOOOOOOOOOH that episode. |
| 03:03.01 | NightHawkTheSane | clearly you didn't have very many other things to do if you watched an entire season in one night :P |
| 03:03.03 | sag_ich_nicht | that is fucking rofltastic. |
| 03:03.21 | sag_ich_nicht | NightHawkTheSane sure |
| 03:03.34 | sag_ich_nicht | i just had nothing better to do on THAT day, and no work the next day |
| 03:03.35 | sag_ich_nicht | duh |
| 03:03.53 | NightHawkTheSane | :P |
| 03:04.06 | NightHawkTheSane | at the moment i'm just shitting around waiting for my friend to show up, who is obnoxiously late. |
| 03:04.09 | sb | mhh... night, need to watch some sg1 dvd :/ |
| 03:04.28 | NightHawkTheSane | :D |
| 03:05.00 | sb | Good news for hunters in Patch 2.2.0 — we now have access to a level 70 ravager! The Nethermine Ravager was introduced in Patch 2.1.0 but could not be tamed (and still can’t as of 2.1.3 — I just checked). But on the PTR, this beautiful but deadly creature is just waiting for a loving master. |
| 03:05.01 | sb | ah |
| 03:05.02 | sb | :) |
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| 03:08.02 | kenlyric | yeah, that's why I'm just sticking with my kittty until 70. But I swear if they make that level 70 tameable, I'll... post angry notes on the hunter forums! |
| 03:08.26 | NightHawkTheSane | "Carter, be honest.. The resume gag?" "..." "It needs work, O'Neill." |
| 03:09.07 | Diao | wtf |
| 03:09.07 | Diao | [2007/08/17 20:09:50-1411-x42]: Decursive\Dcr_Raid.lua:510: attempt to call global 'PetUnitName' (a nil value) |
| 03:09.07 | Diao | --- |
| 03:09.23 | Wobin | sb: bah |
| 03:09.35 | Wobin | with raptor dash, who needs ravagers? =P |
| 03:09.45 | kergoth | pfft, gore is where its at |
| 03:09.46 | kergoth | :) |
| 03:10.00 | sag_ich_nicht | WARP STALKER IS SUPERIOR MKAY |
| 03:10.17 | NightHawkTheSane | your mom needs a ravager. |
| 03:10.17 | kenlyric | Wobin: raptors are just cats now. |
| 03:10.31 | NightHawkTheSane | kenlyric: cats without prowl. |
| 03:10.33 | kenlyric | that can't ever learn prowl |
| 03:10.48 | kenlyric | curse you, get out of my brain! |
| 03:11.10 | NightHawkTheSane | but.. but.. i just put in a couch. |
| 03:11.13 | Wobin | I want to be able to tame a herd of velociraptors |
| 03:11.30 | Wobin | "Attack!" |
| 03:11.34 | Wobin | *ARTAEHRAWHRARFHEWSHRASDFH* |
| 03:11.35 | kenlyric | they need a higher health, lower armor animal that learns gore. The ravager is all backwards. |
| 03:11.49 | Wobin | *shredshredshred* |
| 03:12.35 | kenlyric | that should replace that stupid aoe attack hunters have. |
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| 03:14.10 | Wobin | well that makes sense |
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| 03:14.23 | Wobin | replace a hunter attack that all of them can do with a pet |
| 03:14.30 | Wobin | oO |
| 03:16.08 | Codayus | For raiding, nothing beats scorpid...sadly. |
| 03:16.42 | Wobin | not any more |
| 03:16.58 | Wobin | http://www.maniasarcania.com/2007/08/17/ptr-220-scorpid-poison-changes/ |
| 03:17.11 | kenlyric | Wobin:, no just make the animation a pack of velocraptors. |
| 03:17.17 | kenlyric | same ability, different graphic. |
| 03:17.21 | Wobin | kenlyric: I'd be happy with that =) |
| 03:17.42 | Wobin | "Suddenly, a pack of velociraptors appears out of nowhere!" |
| 03:18.07 | gnorlish | xkcd? |
| 03:18.13 | NightHawkTheSane | gnorlish: heh, i was just thinking that |
| 03:18.17 | Wobin | gnorlish: no, but yeah =) |
| 03:18.18 | kenlyric | Wobin: If it still keeps up with trinket bonuses, it's still probably going to be the best dps ability. |
| 03:18.32 | Wobin | kenlyric: That's the thing, they're not going to |
| 03:18.40 | kenlyric | that's not what that says. |
| 03:19.06 | Wobin | Well the damage no longer scales |
| 03:19.09 | kenlyric | just that they scaled back its scaling, like they did with LB. |
| 03:19.14 | Wobin | hm |
| 03:19.14 | kenlyric | that's not what it says :) |
| 03:19.35 | Wobin | The whole stacking thing was bugged anyway |
| 03:19.39 | Wobin | ~rimshot |
| 03:19.42 | purl | ba-dum CHH |
| 03:19.54 | Wobin | That mechanism should never be like that |
| 03:19.54 | Codayus | The stacking thing wasn't bugged... |
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| 03:20.06 | kenlyric | Codayus: badly designed. |
| 03:20.08 | Codayus | Since that's precisely how it "should" work based on all other mechanics in game. |
| 03:20.12 | Wobin | er? |
| 03:20.15 | Codayus | I'll buy "badly designed". :-) |
| 03:20.18 | kenlyric | I wish *my* dots could keep my trinket bonuses indefinitely. |
| 03:20.20 | NightHawkTheSane | it wasn't a bug, it just wasn't balanced |
| 03:20.35 | kenlyric | my HoTs too. |
| 03:20.43 | Wobin | You mean that a continually held up stack of 'new' poisons should have the same damage as the original? |
| 03:20.53 | Codayus | Wobin: Right. |
| 03:20.58 | Codayus | That's the way the game works. See Lifebloom. |
| 03:21.20 | Wobin | that's bad design |
| 03:21.34 | sag_ich_nicht | mhm |
| 03:21.40 | sag_ich_nicht | theoretically speaking |
| 03:21.40 | Wobin | but that's mostly due to Blizzards inability to fix it =P |
| 03:21.51 | kenlyric | my guess is it will stack just as it always has, but will scale with RAP worse than lightning breath. |
| 03:21.53 | Wobin | with their stacking mechanism |
| 03:21.58 | Codayus | <shrug> Maybe. But all spells work off the stats you had when it was cast, and anything that "rolls over" means you can keep those stats forever. |
| 03:22.09 | sag_ich_nicht | ripping all of the SG-1 DVDs to XviD would result in .avis the size of about 75 GB |
| 03:22.31 | kenlyric | gimme! |
| 03:22.37 | Fisker- | that's a big torrent, usually torrents are not bigger than a couple of kB/s |
| 03:22.43 | Codayus | That pops up in a bunch of odd ways. Double trinketed Lifebloom is probably the biggest. |
| 03:22.49 | sag_ich_nicht | Fisker- WHAT |
| 03:22.54 | sag_ich_nicht | your statement is NONSENSE |
| 03:23.00 | Wobin | he's talking about the torrent file |
| 03:23.02 | Wobin | not the torrent |
| 03:23.13 | sag_ich_nicht | not my point |
| 03:23.18 | kenlyric | slow cat is slow. |
| 03:23.21 | sag_ich_nicht | kB/s is a speed measurement |
| 03:23.27 | Fisker- | yeah |
| 03:23.28 | sag_ich_nicht | not a fucking size |
| 03:23.29 | sag_ich_nicht | D: |
| 03:23.37 | Fisker- | IT'S FUCKING 5 AM IN THE MORNING |
| 03:23.40 | kenlyric | slow cat is *really* slow. |
| 03:23.42 | Fisker- | I'VE SLEPT FOR 4 HOURS |
| 03:23.45 | Fisker- | give me a break |
| 03:23.47 | kenlyric | not you fisker. |
| 03:23.51 | sag_ich_nicht | Fisker- never. |
| 03:23.53 | Wobin | slow cat is measured in kB/s |
| 03:23.53 | kenlyric | sag_ich_nicht is the slow one :) |
| 03:24.11 | sag_ich_nicht | meh |
| 03:24.14 | kenlyric | I knew what you meant. |
| 03:24.14 | sag_ich_nicht | allocation takes forever |
| 03:24.19 | sag_ich_nicht | i did not |
| 03:24.21 | sag_ich_nicht | i am like a compiler |
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| 03:25.03 | sag_ich_nicht | sure, i can make out your weird 20 line box sentence |
| 03:25.10 | sag_ich_nicht | but don't you dare use wrong syntax on me :O |
| 03:27.25 | kenlyric | actually, I think it originated from your imprecise syntax of "torrent file" :) |
| 03:28.21 | sag_ich_nicht | [05:22] * sag_ich_nicht downloads a 75 GB torrent atm |
| 03:28.42 | sag_ich_nicht | torrent != .torrent |
| 03:28.44 | sag_ich_nicht | mkay? |
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| 03:30.02 | sag_ich_nicht | ...it's still allocating D: |
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| 03:33.17 | Fisker- | Is there an addon that can scan all my recipes in a profession and notify me of which vendor recipes i'm missing and where to get it? |
| 03:33.27 | Fisker- | i think i heard about something like that a while back |
| 03:33.59 | Chompers | TradeSkillInfo? |
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| 03:36.13 | Fisker- | recipe radar |
| 03:36.18 | Fisker- | sounds promising |
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| 03:38.46 | sylvanaar | cant run 2 wows anymore - my sound just buzzes and machine hardlocks |
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| 03:42.51 | ckknight | sag_ich_nicht: btw, the object is not to keep em on 24/7, the object is to make it worthwhile enough for them to pay $15/month |
| 03:43.23 | Cerium | WHat? |
| 03:43.40 | ckknight | for MMOs |
| 03:43.41 | sag_ich_nicht | ckknight no, it' |
| 03:44.30 | Cerium | When are the next patch coming? |
| 03:44.31 | sag_ich_nicht | *ckknight no, it's to have the highest possible but still accepted fun:time ratio, thus lenghtening the time till they get bored and stop their subscription :P |
| 03:44.46 | sag_ich_nicht | or you just add content, all the time, nonstop. but that's kind of hard to do. :P |
| 03:45.16 | ckknight | well, my idea of a multi-era gamesphere does make that easy |
| 03:45.25 | ckknight | okay, time to go |
| 03:45.33 | sag_ich_nicht | obviously you want them to play as little as possible per month, but forever. |
| 03:45.34 | ckknight | cya all later |
| 03:45.34 | sag_ich_nicht | :D |
| 03:45.37 | sag_ich_nicht | bye |
| 03:45.38 | Cerium | bye |
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| 03:47.41 | sylvanaar | crashed again |
| 03:50.31 | Cerium | is here anyone left? ^^ |
| 03:51.16 | sag_ich_nicht | no. |
| 03:51.19 | sag_ich_nicht | we are all dead. |
| 03:51.39 | Cerium | Damn... |
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| 03:52.17 | Cerium | Anyone know when the patch get activated? |
| 03:52.31 | Cerium | everybody say at the patch "day" |
| 03:52.38 | Cerium | What day is that? monday? |
| 03:52.46 | ulic | tuesdays are patch days |
| 03:52.51 | Cerium | ok:) |
| 03:53.10 | ulic | I highly doubt it will be this tuesday, could be next, but I don't think it will be. |
| 03:53.11 | Cyrez | Patch days are when Blizz says, "ZOMG, let's patch!" |
| 03:54.58 | Cerium | ok... |
| 03:58.10 | kenlyric | no reason it can't be this tuesday. When was the last PTR patch? thursday? |
| 03:58.41 | ulic | yea I think |
| 03:58.59 | ulic | I doubt they'd only test for a few days, but you never know with those guys :) |
| 03:59.31 | Cerium | Thats true |
| 03:59.35 | kenlyric | the patches on tuesday and thursday were fairly minor |
| 04:00.17 | ulic | true |
| 04:00.19 | kenlyric | it all depends on if they've patched in everything they want for voice chat. I've heard there's no guild chat yet, but I also haven't heard if they want guild chat or not. |
| 04:02.51 | Cerium | Btw, how is it? Can we only talk with the group/raid? |
| 04:03.11 | CIA-14 | 03yssaril * r46817 10YssGuildShop/ (. YssGuildShop.toc embeds.xml): |
| 04:03.11 | CIA-14 | YssGuildShop: |
| 04:03.11 | CIA-14 | - Removed ChatThrottleLib due to AceComm updating to newest version |
| 04:03.54 | Cerium | Btw, how is it? Can we only talk with the group/raid? |
| 04:04.02 | ulic | party/raid/custom channels |
| 04:04.49 | kenlyric | custom channels is hot, but so strange they added those before guild. |
| 04:05.02 | Silowyi | is there a cleanup routine that is called for an addon when you exit the game before the saved variables are written? |
| 04:05.07 | kenlyric | I guess for the prevalent subchannels most raids have. |
| 04:05.23 | kenlyric | works for me though, my guild disbanded and we still all chat ina custom channel. |
| 04:06.53 | art3mis | does duf/dart still function? |
| 04:07.07 | art3mis | or was all the dart/duf related stuff hacked at by mazzle |
| 04:07.09 | ulic | doubt it |
| 04:07.18 | art3mis | i wanna make a hello kitty ui |
| 04:08.02 | ulic | I think you can do custom textures with eePanels |
| 04:08.22 | art3mis | hrm |
| 04:08.41 | art3mis | and just overlay the chat frames and stuff with solid black backgrounds |
| 04:09.26 | ulic | that's pretty much what I do, but my are gradiants, one across top another across bottom. |
| 04:09.31 | art3mis | i kind of want a bit more in the way of custom though, like hello kitt ears on my mini map, and hello kitty for the player potrait and hello bunny for all party portaits |
| 04:10.04 | art3mis | hehe a global replace of all tooltip and spell display names would be pretty funny too ;P |
| 04:10.09 | ulic | where there is a will, there is a way :) |
| 04:10.15 | art3mis | heh |
| 04:10.31 | art3mis | yeah i think im gonna work on gaying up my UI for my paladin ;P |
| 04:10.49 | art3mis | and then ill name it TUPI |
| 04:10.57 | art3mis | the ultimate paladin interface |
| 04:10.58 | Cerium | Palatubbie? |
| 04:11.01 | ulic | just set alot of bars to class color and that will get you party way there |
| 04:11.13 | art3mis | haha |
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| 04:11.47 | Cerium | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=snimXqydyG8 |
| 04:11.50 | Cerium | LOL! |
| 04:13.31 | art3mis | hah |
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| 04:27.02 | ckknight | hey all |
| 04:28.36 | kenlyric | ride the lightning! |
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| 04:32.04 | Diao | !ap 1650 |
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| 04:32.04 | ThraeBot | Diao: Arena points from a rating of 1650 is, 2v2: 389, 3v3: 445, 5v5: 556 |
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| 04:39.17 | Yssaril | have a small problem with xchat when i try to open a link (using firefox) it opens 2 tabs one with the actual link say http://www.lua.org and the otherone close to that but wrong http://www.http.com//www.lua.org |
| 04:39.22 | Yssaril | anyway to fix that? |
| 04:39.58 | mjc | http://www.chaosmatrix.org/library/humor/reject.html |
| 04:40.31 | mjc | Yssaril: ew, xchat |
| 04:41.06 | mjc | try reassociating firefox as your default browser |
| 04:42.11 | CIA-14 | 03gagorian * r46819 10DrDamage/Data/ (Druid.lua Mage.lua): |
| 04:42.11 | CIA-14 | DrDamage: |
| 04:42.11 | CIA-14 | - Fixed Mangle (Cat) energy cost |
| 04:42.13 | Yssaril | k (btw hilarious link) |
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| 04:49.45 | CIA-14 | 03nemes * r46820 10NShakedown/ (Addons/Omen.lua Addons/Parrot.lua NShakedown.toc): NShakedown: add Omen support |
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| 05:04.35 | Mikk | Yssaril: what happens if you just type http://www.lua.org into Start->Run? Do you get the same problem? If not, it's just xchat bugging. |
| 05:05.37 | Wobin | Any good fishing mods around? |
| 05:05.58 | Bam__ | FishingAce? |
| 05:06.10 | Yssaril | gives me an error that it cant find it but still opens it up in a new tab in Firefox |
| 05:06.23 | Yssaril | using vista |
| 05:09.40 | CIA-14 | 03bam * r46821 10FuBar_SkillsPlusFu/SkillsPlusFu.lua: FuBar_SkillsPlusFu: Fixed syntax error. |
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| 05:12.27 | Yssaril | if i update my toc to 20200 now it should still work in the non ptr version right now |
| 05:13.15 | Funkeh` | it will bitch its out of date |
| 05:13.41 | Yssaril | kk |
| 05:13.42 | Chaotic_D | I'm not sure how to design my script for a quest walkthrough... if it's a multi-dimensional array, should/must I keep the same format in every row? |
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| 05:13.59 | Mikk | you can format rows whichever way you like |
| 05:14.32 | Chaotic_D | so I wouldn't have to put level requirements in every row if I put it in one? |
| 05:14.34 | Mikk | heya nargs.. did you get my ping about Gems being a different item type these days? |
| 05:14.35 | Bam__ | Lua doesn't have multi-dimensional arrays as such |
| 05:14.42 | Funkeh` | ok time to go |
| 05:14.43 | Chaotic_D | yeah I noticed. |
| 05:14.44 | Funkeh` | later |
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| 05:14.51 | Mikk | It's just an array of tables |
| 05:14.54 | Mikk | You can have whatever in each table |
| 05:15.07 | sylvanaar | one of the mods is causing the crashes |
| 05:15.10 | Mikk | And not necessarily a true array either for that matter |
| 05:15.11 | Yssaril | you can make each "row" whatever length you want |
| 05:15.45 | Chaotic_D | I'm just wondering if it's messy to not have every step of the walkthrough keep the same format. |
| 05:16.09 | Bam__ | hard to say without knowing what or how it's used really |
| 05:16.38 | Yssaril | might be simpler to keep the same format if you are gonna through the table later but its hard to say without knowing what you are doing with the array |
| 05:16.52 | Chaotic_D | like I say, I'm trying to make a script to streamline a walkthrough such as Joana/Mancow's leveling guide. |
| 05:17.01 | sylvanaar | as soon as i log in my machine hardlocks |
| 05:17.45 | Chaotic_D | I wonder if I could offer Joana/Mancow this add-on + scripted copy of his/her guide in exchange for a free copy of the guide. ;> |
| 05:18.26 | Bam__ | is it that expensive? :P |
| 05:18.27 | Yssaril | sylvanaar: i would check any addons that communicate with other people using the same addon and turn those off and see if that fixes it (otherwise maybe one of them is causeing a infinet loop on login?) |
| 05:18.47 | Mikk | hardly cause for a machine hang |
| 05:18.56 | Mikk | you can still alt+tab out of those |
| 05:18.57 | Chaotic_D | ehhhh... costs are starting to pile up. I already spent $45 for WoW and the expansion. |
| 05:19.03 | Yssaril | true |
| 05:19.30 | Chaotic_D | I'm cheap. |
| 05:19.48 | Yssaril | i am cheaper i figured out how to get to 70 by myself :P |
| 05:20.06 | Bam__ | masochist! |
| 05:20.12 | Bam__ | :P |
| 05:20.26 | Chaotic_D | that's not cheap. that's expensive. it took you longer, so you had to be subscribed longer. |
| 05:20.37 | Mikk | "Do lots of quests up to 60. Go to outland. Do shitloads of instances, and some quests in between. Rake in an extra 5k gold on spare quests when you ding 70." |
| 05:20.58 | Mikk | There ya go |
| 05:20.59 | Bam__ | Mikk: how much you want for that guide? :P |
| 05:21.12 | Mikk | Hmmm.. |
| 05:21.23 | Yssaril | think it took me abotu 2 months to 60 and then 2 weeks to 70 when BC hit |
| 05:21.29 | Mikk | Well, what's $5k gold sell for these days? =) |
| 05:21.35 | Bam__ | hehe |
| 05:21.55 | Mikk | My spriest is level 68, has barely started on terokkar quests, and has ...16d11h played |
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| 05:22.27 | sylvanaar | lame |
| 05:22.57 | Yssaril | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:23.20 | Chaotic_D | holy crap. |
| 05:23.25 | ccKep | wtf |
| 05:23.26 | Bam__ | :O |
| 05:23.36 | Chaotic_D | I'd buy that for a dollar! |
| 05:23.49 | Yssaril | sure glad that felweed sold for 20-30g a stack back in the day |
| 05:24.08 | Bam__ | what's a good money maker now? |
| 05:24.17 | Chaotic_D | does Blizzard actually go after goldfarmers, or just the ones that advertise in-game? |
| 05:24.21 | Yssaril | daily quests? |
| 05:24.31 | Bam__ | hmm |
| 05:24.35 | Bam__ | probably |
| 05:24.53 | Bam__ | I don't think Blizzard really do a lot about gold farmers tbh |
| 05:25.11 | Yssaril | primal shadow to water aint bad either (still waiting for mana to fire to proc for me) |
| 05:25.18 | Chaotic_D | well I wonder what percentage of the accounts they banned last time were ones that were advertising. |
| 05:25.43 | Bam__ | isn't it mostly people exploiting that they ban? |
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| 05:25.51 | sylvanaar | wtf! |
| 05:25.54 | Chaotic_D | I totally agree that advertising in-game is a nuissance that they shouldn't allow. |
| 05:25.56 | Yssaril | honestly i think goldfarmers keep the AH prices low caues they are one of the major sources of crap on there imo |
| 05:26.45 | Yssaril | other than that they should not be alowed to spam the hell out of people |
| 05:26.58 | Chaotic_D | I don't know. I haven't been around WoW long enough to know how things are. how much of the bans are exploits and how many are goldfarming without exploits. |
| 05:27.00 | ccKep | gold farmers aren't all THAT bad... they just annoying when they farm the mobs you need / spam advertisments |
| 05:27.23 | Yssaril | ccKep: agreed |
| 05:27.46 | Bam__ | as long as they aren't using bots, they will not get banned I think |
| 05:28.02 | Yssaril | once in a while you can even geat stuff at rediculessly low prices from them (and then sell it on the AH for what its really worth) |
| 05:28.11 | ccKep | and I didn't see them running around in outlands so far (guess due to account upgrades needed and stuff?).. so I'm fine with it |
| 05:28.14 | Chaotic_D | well I read Blizzard monitors game activity for suspicious stuff. although I'm not sure what unique activity goldfarming has... perhaps large transfers of money with nothing in exchange? |
| 05:28.28 | sylvanaar | i think its the blizzard raid ui |
| 05:28.55 | Chaotic_D | raid ui? |
| 05:30.10 | Chaotic_D | what's the name of the coordinate system that allows the minimap to show things with such precision compared to tloc? |
| 05:30.50 | Chaotic_D | and do quests and NPCs have unique ID numbers or anything?' |
| 05:31.22 | Bam__ | not any IDs that we can obtain in any way |
| 05:31.43 | Chaotic_D | so addons can only deal with NPCs and quests by their names? |
| 05:31.44 | Diao | hmm |
| 05:31.45 | Bam__ | internally in Blizzard's code I'm sure they do :P |
| 05:31.47 | Diao | where's nymbia :( |
| 05:31.52 | Diao | found an interesting bug |
| 05:32.23 | Bam__ | in which of his 100 addons? :P |
| 05:32.24 | Diao | when trying to promote someone to main tank/assist in blizzard's raid ui |
| 05:32.28 | Diao | tattle gets blocked |
| 05:32.31 | Diao | lol |
| 05:32.46 | Diao | not that i need it |
| 05:32.49 | Diao | since i use ora |
| 05:32.54 | Diao | but i was just playing around with it and it poppedu p |
| 05:33.27 | Chaotic_D | what about when a quest has part 1 and part 2? how do you differentiate? |
| 05:33.43 | Diao | i think they do actually |
| 05:33.46 | Diao | look at lightheaded |
| 05:33.50 | Diao | it tells you quest chains with the quest numbers |
| 05:34.45 | Chaotic_D | heheh... once in a while an abbriviation looks like it's out of another MMORPG. Ora and Kara (Karavan) from Ryzom. |
| 05:35.04 | Yssaril | we will get unique npc ids for the combat log in wow 2.4 or at least something along those lines |
| 05:35.06 | Chaotic_D | Hrm, thanks. I'll go take a look. |
| 05:35.34 | Diao | hmm |
| 05:35.39 | Diao | so i was looking in sw log |
| 05:35.44 | Diao | and it has millisecond precision |
| 05:35.47 | Diao | trying to figure out how they did it :( |
| 05:36.55 | Yssaril | if they do it at a frame by frame basis cant you get a time stamp for each frame that is that precise? (precise with some overhead of course) |
| 05:38.01 | Diao | interesting thing is |
| 05:38.04 | Diao | it doesn't actually show the milliseconds |
| 05:38.08 | Diao | until you mouseover the event |
| 05:38.16 | Diao | then it shows how many ms it was from previous event |
| 05:38.25 | Yssaril | GetTime() - Returns the system uptime in seconds (millisecond precision). <--- see wowwiki |
| 05:38.59 | Diao | yeah |
| 05:40.19 | Diao | trying to edit prat |
| 05:40.25 | Diao | to show millisecond precision |
| 05:40.25 | Diao | lol |
| 05:40.41 | Yssaril | as far as i have been able to find you can only get hour and minute from the wow server have yet to find something that lets me get seconds/milliseconds or even jsut the server date |
| 05:41.21 | Diao | well |
| 05:41.23 | Diao | i use local time |
| 05:41.25 | Diao | for my prat timestamps |
| 05:41.31 | Diao | so it should be getting my system time anyway |
| 05:41.36 | Yssaril | hmmmm let me check something |
| 05:41.55 | Diao | !api GetGameTime |
| 05:41.55 | ThraeBot | Diao: hours,minutes = GetGameTime(); -- http://www.wowwiki.com/API_GetGameTime |
| 05:42.01 | Chaotic_D | have you guys come to any consensus on what is likely for the the next set of new WoW races? I really really really want some cool inhuman Horde races like Naga, Nerubian, (or the most unlikely, Harpy). I don't get what the big deal is about "technical issues". |
| 05:42.35 | Aenslaed | there were no new races tmk |
| 05:42.41 | Aenslaed | in the next expansion |
| 05:42.48 | Diao | if self.db.profile.localtime then |
| 05:42.48 | Diao | return date(format) |
| 05:42.52 | Diao | need to figure out what to change there |
| 05:43.05 | Chaotic_D | well the next expansion is still being developed... |
| 05:43.24 | Aenslaed | Chaotic_D: but they already spoke on the matter of new races and said there weren't going to be any |
| 05:43.25 | Chaotic_D | and I didn't say it had to be the next expansion. |
| 05:43.45 | Chaotic_D | oh. really? I hadn't found that in any of the convention summaries. :S |
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| 05:45.10 | Diao | strange thing is |
| 05:45.12 | Diao | posix time has milliseconds |
| 05:45.13 | Diao | :( |
| 05:45.24 | Diao | it just doesn't provide a format for it |
| 05:46.33 | Yssaril | i think you have to extract the millisec info from GetTime() canse in the date() function the closest you can get is seconds |
| 05:46.43 | Yssaril | *cause |
| 05:47.00 | Diao | yeah |
| 05:47.11 | CIA-14 | 03schelli * r46822 10FuBar_PotHerbFu/ (FuBar_PotHerbFu.lua FuBar_PotHerbFu.toc): FuBar_PotHerbFu : fixed a little bug that could cause scanning to fail |
| 05:48.36 | sylvanaar | game is fucked idk |
| 05:49.06 | Yssaril | run the repair utitlity thing blizz provides maybe your files got corrupted |
| 05:49.12 | Chaotic_D | I think the ID #s for quests in Lightheaded are merely because that's the format WowHead uses, and it accesses WowHead... |
| 05:49.12 | CIA-14 | 03schelli * r46823 10FuBar_PotHerbFu/FuBar_PotHerbFu.lua: FuBar_PotHerbFu : fixed another display prob |
| 05:49.48 | Yssaril | Repair.exe in your WoW folder |
| 05:50.38 | Diao | oh |
| 05:51.27 | Yssaril | anyways i need soem sleep g'night guys |
| 05:51.41 | Chaotic_D | goodnight. |
| 05:54.14 | Chaotic_D | so wasted. must sleep. |
| 05:58.47 | Mikk | http://www.wowwiki.com/GameTime:Get |
| 05:58.48 | Mikk | aw damnit he d/cd |
| 05:58.58 | Mikk | purl, botmail for Yssaril: http://www.wowwiki.com/GameTime:Get |
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| 06:13.27 | CIA-14 | 03damjau * r46825 10NextStep/ (NextStep.lua NextStep.toc): NextStep: fix 999 line error, add data |
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| 06:18.40 | HarveyDent | Prat |
| 06:18.45 | HarveyDent | Message: ...terface\AddOns\Prat\Prat_Modules\modules\Editbox.lua line 545: |
| 06:18.47 | HarveyDent | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:19.03 | HarveyDent | thats whenever I click on the editbox while typing or editbox is open |
| 06:19.28 | sylvanaar | somone changed that code - check the svn log and see who then ask them |
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| 06:24.17 | Bam__ | sylvanaar: is there a module in Prat to filter system messages (such as "XXX has defeated YYY in a duel")? |
| 06:24.17 | sylvanaar | yes |
| 06:24.17 | sylvanaar | customfilter |
| 06:24.17 | Bam__ | cool :P |
| 06:24.17 | sylvanaar | or you can add to filtering.lua |
| 06:24.55 | Bam__ | ok hmm I tried customfilter with no luck... I suppose I didn't use it correctly then |
| 06:31.33 | CIA-14 | 03nemes * r46826 10NDragIt/NDragIt.lua: NDragIt: turn debugging off... oops |
| 06:42.24 | mjc | http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info7252-JooJanta200Super-ChromaticPerilSensitiveSunglasses.html |
| 06:42.25 | mjc | hahah |
| 06:43.23 | Bam__ | hehe |
| 06:46.46 | Bam__ | is OnProfileEnabled called for all modules too? |
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| 06:48.11 | Cyrez | Bam__: Also try devnull. |
| 06:48.38 | Bam__ | ohh for the filtering :P |
| 06:50.12 | Cyrez | Also gets rid of "Come get yer fresh pies!" and such from city NPC's. |
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| 07:03.40 | CIA-14 | 03deccard * r46827 10MiniChat/Core.lua: (log message trimmed) |
| 07:03.41 | CIA-14 | MiniChat: |
| 07:03.41 | CIA-14 | - Every chat window gets it's own button on login |
| 07:03.41 | CIA-14 | - GUI can now be opened by middle-clicking a MiniChat button |
| 07:03.41 | CIA-14 | - removed option "Direction" |
| 07:03.41 | CIA-14 | - new option: "Minimize on mouse out" |
| 07:03.43 | CIA-14 | - attaching chat windows on top of each other is now implemented, right-click MiniChat buttons for options |
| 07:13.57 | ckknight | Bam__: no, it's not, as the modules don't embed AceDB |
| 07:14.30 | Bam__ | all right... so I should iterate over the modules myself |
| 07:14.54 | Silowyi | ckknight maybe you can help me, you're like a lua guru right? |
| 07:15.02 | ckknight | yea or :CallMethodOnAllModules("OnCoreProfileEnable") |
| 07:15.03 | Silowyi | I'm having an odd, odd problem |
| 07:15.07 | ckknight | k? |
| 07:15.56 | mjc | just had a 5 minute AB :o |
| 07:16.27 | Silowyi | basically I'm trying to delete items from the AceDB table where I'm storing all my saved variables. I've tried setting it to nil, and setting it to {}, but both times "something" is left behind. |
| 07:17.06 | ckknight | something? |
| 07:17.27 | Silowyi | well specifically... |
| 07:17.42 | Silowyi | like self.db.profile.data["something"]["something_else"] = nil, where something_else was the only key |
| 07:18.01 | ckknight | right. |
| 07:18.29 | Silowyi | if I do a pairs on self.db.profile.data["something"], I get a single value that's nil |
| 07:18.38 | Silowyi | which I guess makes sense |
| 07:18.47 | ckknight | impossible, pairs can't return a nil |
| 07:18.49 | Silowyi | but how am I supposed to delete stuff? |
| 07:19.30 | Silowyi | I'll have to look at it again then. |
| 07:19.31 | ckknight | by nilling, somehow you aren't using pairs right |
| 07:19.56 | Silowyi | but anyway that's the information I needed |
| 07:20.08 | Silowyi | if setting "something_else" to nil there deletes it or not |
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| 07:20.26 | Grum | Silowyi: you have a 'RegisterDefaults' as well right? |
| 07:20.31 | Silowyi | yeah I do |
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| 07:20.56 | Grum | and it is: data = { ['*'] = { ['*'] = {} } } ? |
| 07:21.04 | Silowyi | yuppers |
| 07:21.12 | Grum | then that is what is giving back data :) |
| 07:21.21 | Silowyi | but it shouldn't on a pairs call |
| 07:21.24 | Grum | because you ask for something that you have describe as default |
| 07:21.27 | Grum | ohh yes it wil :P |
| 07:21.42 | Silowyi | besides I'm not getting the default back |
| 07:21.42 | Grum | it injects default data through meta-tables |
| 07:21.50 | Silowyi | if I got the default back it wouldn't be a problem. |
| 07:22.44 | Grum | i have to say the meta-tables do work a bit odd though |
| 07:23.04 | Grum | there are some specific things that do not quite work the same (i ended up with the same problem) |
| 07:23.18 | Grum | i could unset the 'middle' entry and break the RegisterDefault |
| 07:23.41 | Grum | i could set it to nil as you just said before |
| 07:23.42 | Silowyi | that sounds very much like what was happening |
| 07:24.00 | Bam__ | pairs don't "recognize" metatables |
| 07:24.02 | Silowyi | would I have to re register defaults after clearing stuff out then? |
| 07:24.04 | Grum | but still being able to access 1 level deeper - and it would give back the default {} |
| 07:24.42 | Silowyi | the actual table is nested 5 times :P |
| 07:25.42 | Grum | hehe |
| 07:25.56 | Grum | in the end i just gave up |
| 07:26.11 | Grum | when someone trashes the table by doing manual action on it ... well .. tough luck :D |
| 07:26.15 | Silowyi | yeah atm I'm using a "deleted" flag :P |
| 07:26.51 | Grum | the worst thing i found was not being able to count the amount of entries in a 'dictionary'-form table |
| 07:26.57 | Silowyi | which was the other half of my original question that I forgot to ask, namely, is there a function called when the user logs out or closes WoW? |
| 07:27.20 | Grum | ckknight knows that best :) |
| 07:27.33 | Grum | but best not put severe logic in there |
| 07:27.52 | Grum | you can also have alt-f4/crashes-to-desktop exits |
| 07:28.53 | Silowyi | mostly just want to scan through the database and nil all the deleted records. Deleted records aren't a huge problem since I reuse the tables, but I just didn't see any reason in storing them indefinitely. |
| 07:29.20 | Silowyi | I think I may alter my table structure to use all numbered indexes :P |
| 07:29.43 | Silowyi | it would just require a bit more logic |
| 07:32.13 | Bam__ | ckknight: did you notice Blizzard will add an IsRegistered method for events? |
| 07:33.14 | Grum | Silowyi: do it from OnInitialize :) |
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| 07:37.39 | Grum | so close to making my addon actually usable :D |
| 07:38.12 | Bam__ | famous last words :P |
| 07:38.16 | Silowyi | Grum not a bad idea |
| 07:39.38 | Grum | Bam__: it needs a lot of tweaking but i broke the 'core' of it the second i had it working to change the internal data structure to have more options |
| 07:39.48 | Grum | then i spend like eons generating the dewdrop menus for it :) |
| 07:39.51 | Grum | and perfecting them |
| 07:40.06 | Grum | and i just rewrote the '2 main functions' to actually 'work' again :P |
| 07:40.10 | Bam__ | just remember the curse of programming... nothing is ever finished :D |
| 07:40.31 | ckknight | Bam__: yea, I did, I don't see how it really affects me :-P |
| 07:41.05 | Bam__ | ckknight: well AceEvent might take advantage of it seeing as it implements one like it today |
| 07:41.23 | ckknight | no, it won't |
| 07:41.32 | Bam__ | it could also be a way to determine if an event is a Blizzard event or a custom event |
| 07:41.45 | ckknight | nah, doesn't work anyway |
| 07:41.54 | ckknight | since you can register a custom event with the frame itself |
| 07:42.04 | ckknight | either way, I'm kinda putting my efforts into Joker :-P |
| 07:42.21 | Bam__ | yes but I doubt IsRegistered will return true for non-existing events |
| 07:42.35 | ckknight | I bet it will. |
| 07:42.46 | ckknight | Blizz's event code doesn't know the difference. |
| 07:42.47 | Bam__ | hehe... depends how they implement if |
| 07:43.29 | Bam__ | erm.. I got no idea what Joker is... something wonderful? |
| 07:44.41 | ckknight | http://www.wowace.com/wiki/Joker |
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| 07:45.16 | Bam__ | :O |
| 07:45.37 | Bam__ | an ambitious product :P |
| 07:45.58 | ckknight | yea |
| 07:46.13 | Bam__ | it will have an animal name on relase, right? :D |
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| 07:53.28 | evl_ | I thought only addons had animal names :P |
| 07:58.21 | Bam__ | so it should perhaps be a species name? :P |
| 08:00.51 | ckknight | it actually comes from an April Fool's joker |
| 08:00.53 | ckknight | joke* |
| 08:01.09 | ckknight | the secret codename for the satirical Ace3 project was Joker |
| 08:01.49 | CIA-14 | 03adirelle * r46828 10CastYeller/ (CastYeller.lua announces/paladin.lua): |
| 08:01.49 | CIA-14 | CastYeller: |
| 08:01.49 | CIA-14 | - fixed deDE paladin announce typo (credit to Poetter), |
| 08:01.49 | CIA-14 | - now ignores some failure messages (currently "not while standing" and "nothing to dispel"). |
| 08:02.23 | Grum | whooo can draw multiple route-paths on the map now =D |
| 08:02.26 | Grum | *dances* |
| 08:03.16 | omega | Grum: what are you working on? |
| 08:06.48 | ckknight | here's the April Fool's joke: http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=5506.0 |
| 08:09.04 | CIA-14 | 03adirelle * r46829 10SimpleSelfRebuff/ (3 files in 2 dirs): |
| 08:09.04 | CIA-14 | SimpleSelfRebuff: |
| 08:09.04 | CIA-14 | - made mousewheel binding code more reactive, |
| 08:09.04 | CIA-14 | - added korean translation, credit to Sayclub. |
| 08:17.58 | RaydenUni | you are required to have 300 riding to do the netherwing quests? |
| 08:18.07 | Jaxon | Yes. |
| 08:18.42 | Bam__ | it requires money to earn money... just like in real life... *sigh* |
| 08:18.44 | RaydenUni | so you can't work on it while you earn money |
| 08:19.03 | RaydenUni | bummer |
| 08:19.10 | Jaxon | No, but you make a fortune doing them, so if you have the option, borrow money, get 300 riding, pay it back quickly. |
| 08:19.35 | Bam__ | how much you reckon you can make daily on the quests? |
| 08:19.41 | Jaxon | 10 daily quests at 12g a day |
| 08:20.06 | Jaxon | You won't have 10 available right away just Netherwing only, but Ogrila and Skettis can fill ou tthe rest. |
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| 08:20.38 | CIA-14 | 03adirelle * r46830 10SimpleSelfRebuff/SimpleSelfRebuff.toc: |
| 08:20.38 | CIA-14 | SimpleSelfRebuff: |
| 08:20.38 | CIA-14 | - koKR locale works better when referenced in .toc. |
| 08:21.00 | Bam__ | is that the best money-maker now? Or is loot farming still a good option? |
| 08:21.52 | Jaxon | I find it is quick enough, even doing 6 quests a day or so. |
| 08:22.00 | RaydenUni | i have so many 5 man quests i need to do |
| 08:22.36 | RaydenUni | you don't need any sort of riding to do the ogr'ila quests do you? |
| 08:23.06 | Jaxon | Just a fatkid mount |
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| 08:30.34 | Grum | <omega> Grum: what are you working on? <-- Cartographer_Routes |
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| 09:40.39 | baer_ | g'mornin' |
| 09:41.42 | baer_ | is there an addon that supplies me with a non-anchored tooltip (like ct2 does) ? |
| 09:45.48 | Grum | sorry baer_, cant really help you with that :( |
| 09:47.18 | sag_ich_nicht | <PROTECTED> |
| 09:51.50 | Grum | lol |
| 09:52.06 | Grum | if you would have rea the article you would have seen it is the 'infamous' add a zillion spaces trick |
| 09:52.58 | Grum | basicly doing: WTS Cookies [MANY SPACES][2. Trade] <GM>[GMNAMEZOMG]: I will slap you alllllll! |
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| 10:02.50 | Codayus | Grum: Um? If you read the article you'd see it was NOT that at all. |
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| 10:05.24 | Codayus | Which is extremely obvious if you look at the screenshot. Although note that if you follow the links to the official forum thread, the blue poster completely missed that too...surprise surprise... |
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| 10:24.40 | CIA-14 | 03bam * r46831 10MouseLook/ (. Bindings.xml Libs/ MouseLook.lua MouseLook.toc embeds.xml): MouseLook: Makes using "mouse-look" a bit more convenient |
| 10:29.30 | Fisker- | Anyone else having issues with cowtip not showing tooltips correctly? |
| 10:29.48 | Fisker- | I have it set to show world unit tooltips but disabled unitframe tooltips |
| 10:30.10 | Fisker- | but if i mouse over a world unit and then a unitframe before the world unit tooltip fades then it works on unitframe tooltips |
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| 10:44.18 | mort | i sometimes get tooltips for markers on my minimap... |
| 10:44.42 | mort | something like mageroyal with a healthbar ;) |
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| 10:51.27 | CIA-14 | 03bam * r46832 10MouseLook/MouseLook.toc: |
| 10:51.27 | CIA-14 | MouseLook: |
| 10:51.27 | CIA-14 | - Added X-AceForum metatag to TOC |
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| 10:57.53 | CIA-14 | 03bam * r46833 10MouseLook/MouseLook.lua: |
| 10:57.53 | CIA-14 | MouseLook: |
| 10:57.53 | CIA-14 | - Description of Auto-follow was wrong. |
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| 11:06.12 | sag_ich_nicht | conclusion: googles hotline is made of fail, spread the word. :O |
| 11:06.33 | CIA-14 | 03bam * r46834 10MouseLook/ (Libs/ embeds.xml): |
| 11:06.33 | CIA-14 | MouseLook: |
| 11:06.33 | CIA-14 | - Fixed svn:externals and embeds.xml |
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| 11:28.35 | Mightyconan | Hi |
| 11:29.00 | Mightyconan | Antiarc you there? |
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| 11:53.00 | dodga | rabbit season! |
| 11:55.07 | mikma | WOHOO! |
| 11:56.59 | Fisker- | i'm hunting mikma's |
| 11:57.25 | mikma | sorry, i'm rare species, can't be hunted :) protected by goverment <3 |
| 11:57.57 | nevcairiel | not like Fisker- cares about that |
| 11:58.35 | mikma | oh yeah he'll have to. he can't find me because of that fact :O |
| 11:58.43 | mikma | but let him have his fun |
| 12:00.38 | Grum | http://grum.nl/images/routes.jpg ! |
| 12:00.44 | Grum | *does happy dance* |
| 12:00.53 | Gagorian | Sole: ping |
| 12:01.01 | sag_ich_nicht | LFM Level 70 legendary forum troll US forums for Blizzard EU policy change request see this thread for reasons and details: http://forums.wow-europe.com/thread.html?topicId=469367811&sid=1&pageNo=1 TL;DR version scamming is against ToS in US WoW and not agains the ToS in EU WoW, posting about it on the EU forums would seem logical but does nothing, parent company(US) hitting them on the head otoh might do something. |
| 12:01.04 | Sole | Gagorian: hi |
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| 12:01.39 | Gagorian | Sole: You responsible for Antagonist? |
| 12:01.46 | Sole | Gagorian: yes |
| 12:01.51 | Punkie` | Grum: does it show those lines on the minimap? |
| 12:01.56 | Grum | not yet |
| 12:02.00 | Grum | that is the current objective =D |
| 12:02.17 | Grum | or the next one actually |
| 12:02.26 | Fisker- | sag_ich_nicht what makes you think the US can influence the EU policies? |
| 12:03.08 | Gagorian | Sole: The KillBar function on lines 552-553, could use at least a nil check for unit (at least). I've been getting recently error messages about nil concatenation. I can commit if you want. |
| 12:03.23 | Sole | Gagorian: go right ahead |
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| 12:04.07 | Gagorian | Sole: I don't know in what cases id and unit would be nil, but it seems to happen from time to time. |
| 12:04.53 | Fisker- | oh and btw sag_ich_nicht scamming is still against the EU policy |
| 12:04.57 | Fisker- | it's just poorly worded |
| 12:05.48 | Punkie` | Fisker-: it is not :P |
| 12:05.57 | Punkie` | There has been a guy on my server for a LONG time |
| 12:06.03 | Punkie` | who scams literally non-stop |
| 12:06.11 | Punkie` | for about 9 months |
| 12:06.18 | Punkie` | so I talked to him and he's had plenty of GM |
| 12:06.21 | Punkie` | 's talk to him |
| 12:06.34 | Punkie` | and he just told them he was role-playing a theif |
| 12:06.47 | Fisker- | then your GM was wrong |
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| 12:07.18 | Punkie` | GM's |
| 12:07.20 | Punkie` | plural |
| 12:07.24 | Punkie` | spamming 9 months |
| 12:07.27 | Punkie` | spanning** |
| 12:07.36 | Fisker- | yes |
| 12:07.39 | Fisker- | then they were wrong |
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| 12:08.05 | Punkie` | no, unless it's changed |
| 12:08.24 | Punkie` | and the same GM doesn't work on the same server every day |
| 12:09.05 | Fisker- | in the beginning it was "allowed" |
| 12:09.14 | Fisker- | but it was then later decided to be considered scamming |
| 12:09.28 | Fisker- | they never rewrote their policy to properly announce that |
| 12:09.45 | Punkie` | well, then you can't get banned |
| 12:09.54 | Punkie` | rewrite the eula or gtfo |
| 12:09.56 | Fisker- | of course you can |
| 12:10.04 | Fisker- | do it enough times and get reported for it = ban |
| 12:10.15 | Fisker- | a scammer on our server was there for 1½ day |
| 12:10.16 | Punkie` | shrug, this guy gets reported all the time |
| 12:10.18 | Fisker- | never seen him since |
| 12:10.31 | Fisker- | A friend who did email scams got a 72 hour ban and a final warning |
| 12:11.10 | CIA-14 | 03gagorian * r46835 10Antagonist/Antagonist.lua: Antagonist: - Nil check for unit on line 553 |
| 12:11.10 | Sole | Gagorian: yeah its probably some lag errors or something that cause the nil id and unit errors |
| 12:11.13 | Fisker- | so either people are buying into the "Nothing is done, it's a waste of time" and not reporting him or the GM's are just handling it incorrectly |
| 12:11.24 | Punkie` | Shrug, we used to have a GM in my guild (only knew because he moved to the job whilst being in our guild) and he said that they don't do anything except a slap on the wrists |
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| 12:11.36 | Punkie` | because it isn't in the eula, therefore they are breaking no agreement |
| 12:11.45 | Gagorian | Sole: Yeah, seems to work fine just with the checks in place. (usually the errors came during arenas) |
| 12:11.46 | Punkie` | this was like 2.5 months ago though |
| 12:11.55 | Fisker- | everything is in the eula |
| 12:12.13 | Fisker- | blizzard could ban you permanently for taking a leak on the bathroom |
| 12:12.15 | Fisker- | if they so wanted |
| 12:12.29 | Punkie` | yeah, the only loophole is hte 'we can suspend your account at any time' |
| 12:12.47 | Punkie` | but like i said, i talked to this guy 2.5 months ago |
| 12:12.54 | Punkie` | maybe the internal policy has changed since then |
| 12:13.03 | Fisker- | nah they also have a policy |
| 12:13.19 | Fisker- | it's definitely something they revised this year |
| 12:13.22 | mikma | policypolice! UAA UAA UAA |
| 12:13.47 | CIA-14 | 03athou * r46836 10FuBar_RaidBuffFu/FuBar_RaidBuffFu.lua: |
| 12:13.47 | CIA-14 | FuBar_RaidBuffFu: |
| 12:13.47 | CIA-14 | - fixed a nil error when logging in if you logged out while in a raid |
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| 12:15.36 | Fisker- | indeed Mikk |
| 12:15.37 | Fisker- | mikma |
| 12:19.59 | Pkekyo | anyone know what someone may mean by saying "it's only bg bg bg bg until you get eq"? |
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| 12:20.33 | CIA-14 | 03wessller * r46837 10autoedg/ (AutoEDG.toc Core.lua Locale-enUS.lua): |
| 12:20.33 | CIA-14 | autoedg: |
| 12:20.33 | CIA-14 | - Implemented AutoGratz (Still in test) |
| 12:20.43 | grzesieq | Yes/No question: does Parrot offer anything that SCT doesn't? |
| 12:21.16 | Pkekyo | yes, alot more customizability (from my experience anyways), although it may be a bit more complicated to do |
| 12:21.18 | sag_ich_nicht | Yes/No question: does SCT offer anything that Parrot doesn't? |
| 12:21.47 | grzesieq | dunno, haven't checked Parrot yet ;) |
| 12:21.49 | Pkekyo | also, parrot offers cooldown is completed popups, whereas SCT afaik does not |
| 12:22.30 | Pkekyo | parrot also offer 'events' |
| 12:22.48 | Pkekyo | and alot more custimization as to where the combat text actually is shown |
| 12:22.57 | Pkekyo | aaaaaaand 'triggers' |
| 12:23.22 | Pkekyo | there's no real ace equivalent to auctioneer, is there? |
| 12:23.35 | kas | did anyone ever heard of an AddOn that would recolor the party members on the minimap to their class color? Kind of like how party/raid/guild members appear on Cartographer. I have heard rumors that this is impossible to do |
| 12:24.11 | grzesieq | Pkekyo: afaik, for the full feature set, you need Auctioneer |
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| 12:24.17 | grzesieq | like auto destacking when making auctions <3 |
| 12:25.22 | Pkekyo | auto destacking? |
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| 12:25.38 | Stonegate | Hello everyone ! I got a question for a problem: Since i´ve updated all my addons i get spammed by yellow messages "no player named <name> is currently playing" when one of my guild mates log off. Is that a common bug? Can anyone help me solving that problem please? |
| 12:25.41 | grzesieq | ye, you put a stack of arcane dust on it |
| 12:26.04 | Pkekyo | where can I find a download of auctioneer? (I've forgotten all addon sites beyond wowace :< ) |
| 12:26.05 | grzesieq | and tell to make 20 auctions of 1 dust for x gold |
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| 12:26.12 | grzesieq | auctioneer-addon.com afaik |
| 12:26.30 | Pkekyo | noes |
| 12:26.51 | Pkekyo | http://auctioneeraddon.com/ :> |
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| 12:29.06 | Pkekyo | auctioneer still a memory hog? |
| 12:31.05 | grzesieq | ye |
| 12:31.13 | Pkekyo | oh well, doesn't matter...only gonna use it on my bankchar then :> |
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| 12:32.46 | Pkekyo | christ, my lvl 1 alt has 250g, whereas my main can't even afford to respecc |
| 12:33.00 | grzesieq | do daily ^^ |
| 12:33.07 | Fisker- | indeed |
| 12:33.36 | grzesieq | i did my netherwing exalted and now dont have to earn any money for like half a year :P |
| 12:33.49 | CIA-14 | 03gagorian * r46838 10DrDamage/DrDamage.lua: |
| 12:33.49 | CIA-14 | DrDamage: |
| 12:33.49 | CIA-14 | - Backup method to get macro action name if Blizzard's frame:GetSpell() fails (which it apparently does for actions with no rank). |
| 12:33.52 | Pkekyo | well, I can't do netherwing quests :< |
| 12:34.10 | Fisker- | ogri'la and sha'tari skyguard |
| 12:34.13 | Fisker- | go go |
| 12:34.15 | Fisker- | DO IT |
| 12:34.21 | Pkekyo | I've done those every day lately :> |
| 12:34.47 | Pkekyo | too many group quests tbh |
| 12:35.02 | grzesieq | none of the dailys are group afair |
| 12:35.09 | Fisker- | ^^ |
| 12:35.19 | grzesieq | havent done them in a while tho |
| 12:35.24 | Pkekyo | maybe not, atleast I picked up a fair share of group quests when I got to ogri'la plateau |
| 12:35.33 | Fisker- | because the initial quests are group |
| 12:35.45 | Pkekyo | <--- was half-way to epic flyer, then I bought epic BS plans >.< |
| 12:36.12 | Chompers | i go to bed seeing this as my last line: [04:36] <Fisker-> sounds promising |
| 12:36.19 | Chompers | i wake up, and he's still here |
| 12:36.29 | Pkekyo | rofl |
| 12:36.31 | Chompers | does fisker now sleep?! |
| 12:36.38 | Chompers | *not |
| 12:36.40 | Pkekyo | I don't atleast :> |
| 12:37.03 | Fisker- | i usually sleep for 4 or 5 hours |
| 12:37.13 | Pkekyo | oh well, I've got a MC to go pick up...laters peeps |
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| 12:40.58 | Stonegate | anyone else has that "no player named <name here> is currently playing" spam problem ? |
| 12:48.13 | Punkie` | do /rl |
| 12:50.00 | Tinhay | Is it possible to mass-forward mail with postal? |
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| 13:29.06 | sb | wtb toadkiller |
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| 13:47.05 | kas | does anyone here use ArenaFu? |
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| 13:57.31 | Fisker- | http://i9.tinypic.com/52qa0yt.jpg <-lulz |
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| 14:01.40 | dodga | thaddius now! |
| 14:07.39 | Amadeo | Quiet in here |
| 14:08.06 | Amadeo | People should start having some...cranversations |
| 14:08.54 | Punkie` | Want to take a bite of my snapple? |
| 14:11.17 | Amadeo | Is that your crantasy? |
| 14:12.00 | Gagorian | .. |
| 14:13.07 | Amadeo | :) |
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| 14:26.28 | dodga | rabbit! funkeh! |
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| 14:45.17 | dodga | BigWigs developers! Go forth and fixeth ThaddiusArrows! :D |
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| 14:58.06 | durcyn | dodga: you have to say what's wrong first |
| 14:59.34 | [gk]Hotphoenix | hmm? |
| 15:00.19 | Fisker- | i like slapping people |
| 15:01.51 | dodga | durcyn: I've posted a transcript and debug log; the arrows are not getting displayed :D |
| 15:02.26 | Xinhuan | one of my addons is playing a "mail page tab changing" wav sound everytime i zone |
| 15:02.29 | Xinhuan | not sure which one |
| 15:03.22 | Xinhuan | seems to be triggered on a PLAYER_LEAVING_WORLD but i'm too lazy to find it :) |
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| 15:03.51 | TNSe | hookey |
| 15:04.05 | TNSe | so like, if DrDamage ain't behaving, who do I tell :P |
| 15:05.09 | Fisker- | omg? |
| 15:05.28 | Fisker- | If you have 2 of the same trinkets it can't differentiate if one of them is in the backpack? |
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| 15:08.03 | [dRaCo] | TNSe: the author? :þ |
| 15:08.07 | Xinhuan | correct Fisker- |
| 15:08.21 | TNSe | yes, but I found no way to contact him |
| 15:08.38 | Nandini | if you're making a macro to use an equipped trinket, i think you have to know which slot it's in and /use 13 or /use 14 |
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| 15:09.15 | [dRaCo] | TNSe: forum, I'm pretty sure there's an official thread for drdamage |
| 15:10.56 | TNSe | heh |
| 15:11.05 | TNSe | there we go |
| 15:11.43 | TNSe | now to wait 10 hours for the email confirmation |
| 15:14.15 | Fisker- | not a macro Nandini |
| 15:14.21 | Fisker- | just put it on the actionbar :( |
| 15:14.25 | Fisker- | stupid blizzard :(( |
| 15:14.26 | Gagorian | TNSe: Tell me. |
| 15:14.35 | TNSe | ah, heh |
| 15:14.43 | TNSe | Totem of Wrath seems to no longer register the +hit |
| 15:14.57 | TNSe | it worked somewhere between 1.1.7 and stopped in current |
| 15:15.15 | Gagorian | Class? |
| 15:15.18 | TNSe | and it doesn't work for anyone in my party as well, and I just tested with the new version updated 2 hours ago |
| 15:15.26 | TNSe | Shaman/Mage |
| 15:16.15 | TNSe | I get the crit update, but no update to hit |
| 15:16.30 | TNSe | Draenei shaman, if that helps |
| 15:16.44 | Xinhuan | it doesn't show up on the char screen if that's what you're thinking |
| 15:16.53 | TNSe | it doesn't show up in the tooltip |
| 15:17.00 | TNSe | which is what I'm thinking :P |
| 15:17.07 | Xinhuan | because your char screen only shows "crit rating" |
| 15:17.16 | Xinhuan | and the totem buff isn't a "rating" |
| 15:17.21 | Xinhuan | its a direct % modifier |
| 15:17.21 | TNSe | sigh |
| 15:17.27 | TNSe | which is why I use drdamage |
| 15:17.35 | TNSe | to show me the % modifiers. |
| 15:17.39 | Gagorian | TNSe: I see why it might not work for a shaman, mage should be fine |
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| 15:18.52 | Yssaril | anyone know of a way to get the server date? |
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| 15:19.24 | CIA-14 | 03gagorian * r46840 10DrDamage/BuffScanning.lua: |
| 15:19.24 | CIA-14 | DrDamage: |
| 15:19.24 | CIA-14 | - Possible fix for totem of wrath's +3% hit not applying to hybrid classes |
| 15:19.48 | ulic | I thought the in game functions for date/time did display the servers values, and you had to adjust on your end if you were different. |
| 15:19.50 | Gagorian | TNSe: Try that when it updates into files |
| 15:19.54 | TNSe | I will |
| 15:20.16 | Gagorian | I'll go afk for a few hours, leave me a message here, PM or on the forums and I'll read it when I get back. |
| 15:20.21 | Yssaril | ulic the date() fuction gets your comp date not the server date |
| 15:20.22 | Xinhuan | he wants server date, not server time ;p |
| 15:20.25 | TNSe | oh |
| 15:20.35 | TNSe | heh, seems like the hit adds to my melee hit Gagorian? |
| 15:20.48 | TNSe | I have 98% melee hit :P |
| 15:21.34 | TNSe | oh wait, that is right, uh |
| 15:21.53 | EvilGrin | I think I found a bug. When I mouse over Cartographer_Herbalism map notes in my mini map I get an error. |
| 15:22.15 | EvilGrin | Cartographer_Notes-2.0\Notes.lua:2317: attempt to call method 'utf8len' (a nil value) |
| 15:23.01 | TNSe | those 3% is from nature's guidance. |
| 15:23.23 | Fisker- | btw |
| 15:23.34 | Fisker- | has anyone else noticed that there doesn't seem to be custom ranks crossserver? |
| 15:24.11 | Xinhuan | EvilGrin: download the utf8 libraries ;p |
| 15:24.21 | Xinhuan | its included in the ratingbuster zips actually |
| 15:24.22 | Fisker- | nah nevermind |
| 15:25.29 | Hjalte | Can anyone recommend a chat-addon able to hide the left and changed channels messages? Prat doesnt seem to do it anymore. |
| 15:25.48 | TNSe | Gagorian, yup, that fixed it |
| 15:26.00 | Yssaril | isn't that an option in your interface uptions to turn that on or off Hjalte? |
| 15:26.07 | TNSe | Gagorian, but now my melee hit is 100% :P |
| 15:26.07 | Yssaril | *options |
| 15:27.27 | CIA-14 | 03gagorian * r46841 10DrDamage/ (BuffScanning.lua Melee.lua): |
| 15:27.27 | CIA-14 | DrDamage: |
| 15:27.27 | CIA-14 | - A check to make sure the new buffs/debuffs for hybrids (last commit) won't apply to melee |
| 15:27.34 | Hjalte | Yssaril, it doesnt look like it |
| 15:27.40 | Gagorian | TNSe: Yes, I noticed ;) |
| 15:27.42 | Yssaril | hmmm |
| 15:27.54 | TNSe | :D |
| 15:28.14 | Gagorian | That's drycoded so hopefully it wont explode |
| 15:28.19 | Gagorian | I have to go now though. |
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| 15:28.45 | TNSe | I'll get it tested in a party |
| 15:28.56 | TNSe | all with updated versions and see if it applies correctly |
| 15:30.53 | EvilGrin | Xinhuan, ok, I'll try that. |
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| 15:44.39 | CIA-14 | 03Tristan * r46842 10BossWhisperer2/ (. BossWhisperer2.lua BossWhisperer2.toc): |
| 15:44.39 | CIA-14 | BossWhisperer2: |
| 15:44.39 | CIA-14 | - Modified version of Rabbit's BossWhisperer! |
| 15:44.39 | CIA-14 | - It won't hide any incoming messages, they'll still appear in your frames. |
| 15:44.39 | CIA-14 | - It will hide outgoing notifications sent by the AddOn itself. |
| 15:44.40 | CIA-14 | - It will notify whisperers when combat ends. |
| 15:44.42 | CIA-14 | - It'll send a notification message to a single person at most 1 / 60 secs to avoid spamming to much |
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| 15:51.45 | Nandini | i finally found a working util to convert from a bitmapped image format to BLP2 with alpha support, but it seems to not be compressing to DXT3/5 |
| 15:52.11 | ckknight | hey everybody |
| 15:52.15 | ckknight | any recent developments? |
| 15:52.21 | Nandini | howdy, ckknight |
| 15:55.04 | Tornhoof | why use blp2 and not tga? |
| 15:56.16 | Ominous | whats a good totem bar addon to use, |
| 15:56.49 | EvilGrin | Yata? |
| 15:57.03 | Shirik | ~yatta |
| 15:57.05 | Nandini | i've just been experimenting with textures that get scaled a lot, and wanted to test if mipmaps were actually being used on UI frames |
| 15:57.12 | Shirik | hm, purl, we will have to fix that |
| 15:57.51 | Tornhoof | ~yata |
| 15:57.56 | Nandini | wow still shows the textures fine, but with the image data uncompressed in so many mipmaps, the files are huge |
| 15:57.59 | ramoz | is there any way to get the portrait in PitBull not to move (but still using the 3d one)? |
| 15:58.16 | Nandini | ramoz: no |
| 15:58.18 | EvilGrin | ramoz, I don't think so. |
| 15:58.26 | ramoz | gay |
| 15:58.30 | Nandini | talk to blizzard |
| 15:58.38 | ramoz | yes, yes, i know |
| 15:59.00 | Cryect | Nandini: if you want alpha on a blp it can't us DXT compression (well unless you only want 1 bit then it can do DXT5) |
| 15:59.08 | CIA-14 | 03ascalia * r46843 10AtlasLoot_BCInstances/AtlasLoot_BCInstances.toc: |
| 15:59.08 | CIA-14 | AtlasLoot_BCInstances: |
| 15:59.08 | CIA-14 | - update deDE TOC |
| 15:59.16 | ramoz | i want it to be similar to this -> http://img527.imageshack.us/my.php?image=wowscrnshot081607233215ql8.jpg all the time |
| 15:59.32 | CIA-14 | 03ascalia * r46844 10AtlasLoot_OldInstances/AtlasLoot_OldInstances.toc: |
| 15:59.32 | CIA-14 | AtlasLoot_OldInstances: |
| 15:59.32 | CIA-14 | - update deDE TOC |
| 16:00.05 | CIA-14 | 03ascalia * r46845 10AtlasLoot_RepFactions/AtlasLoot_RepFactions.toc: |
| 16:00.05 | CIA-14 | AtlasLoot_RepFactions: |
| 16:00.05 | CIA-14 | - update deDE TOC |
| 16:00.31 | CIA-14 | 03ascalia * r46846 10AtlasLoot_SetsandPvP/AtlasLoot_SetsandPvP.toc: |
| 16:00.31 | CIA-14 | AtlasLoot_SetsandPvP: |
| 16:00.31 | CIA-14 | - update deDE TOC |
| 16:01.03 | CIA-14 | 03ascalia * r46847 10AtlasLoot_WorldLoot/AtlasLoot_WorldLoot.toc: |
| 16:01.03 | CIA-14 | AtlasLoot_WorldLoot: |
| 16:01.03 | CIA-14 | - update deDE TOC |
| 16:01.12 | Nandini | well for example Sungrass.blp seems to use DXT3 compression with 8-bit alpha, it's not palettized |
| 16:01.33 | ramoz | does ag_UF have a different type of portrait perhaps? |
| 16:02.43 | Nandini | afaik, they all use the character model frame type |
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| 16:03.20 | Cryect | heh could set it to the dead animation |
| 16:03.33 | Cryect | then the player models won't move :-p |
| 16:03.57 | Nandini | true, if the "face-centered" camera was still on, that might work |
| 16:04.07 | Cryect | Face CEntered camera won't still be one |
| 16:04.09 | Cryect | on* |
| 16:05.02 | Pkekyo | "Your Auctioneer SavedVariables file is 7.459% Full." <-- wtf is this shit? |
| 16:05.56 | Megalon | Pkekyo: % of the SV file reaching 2gb? |
| 16:06.01 | Megalon | ;D |
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| 16:07.13 | Fisker- | Pkekyo there's a size limit on the SV |
| 16:07.33 | Fisker- | it's 16MB or something like that |
| 16:07.39 | Pkekyo | WHY?! |
| 16:07.40 | Pkekyo | gah |
| 16:07.51 | Fisker- | i don't know |
| 16:08.01 | Fisker- | i don't think it's a blizzard thing |
| 16:08.16 | Fisker- | probably just that performance is unbearinly low with bigger files? |
| 16:08.33 | Pkekyo | so fucking annoying...not only is auctioneer a fucking memory hog, but someone put a timelimit on how long I can let the piece of shit hog my memory without me having any influence on it? |
| 16:09.07 | Nandini | my file has never filled up, and i use it on 2 servers, it's currently at about 56% after using it at least once a day on both servers for 8 months |
| 16:09.26 | Pkekyo | with me it's on 7.5% after ONE scan O.o |
| 16:09.33 | Fisker- | mine is like 20% since TBC launch or something like that |
| 16:09.47 | nevcairiel | mine jumped to like 30% in the first week |
| 16:09.50 | Fisker- | yeah and data added after one scan probably isn't much bigger |
| 16:09.50 | nevcairiel | and stayed there |
| 16:10.03 | Nandini | it doesn't grow by 7.5% with every scan, once it has seen most of the commonly seen items, it won't grow a lot more |
| 16:10.05 | Fisker- | it probable have the item, it's values and that's it |
| 16:10.19 | Fisker- | if you calculate a new value, that value won't severely add to the space required |
| 16:10.27 | Fisker- | like it would with a whole new item |
| 16:10.47 | Fisker- | ["24690:-39:0"] = "Elementalist Leggings of the Invoker;2;70;2;18;1;8;309", |
| 16:10.49 | Nandini | exactly, about 1/3 of the data stored for each item consists of its itemid and random enchant info |
| 16:11.48 | Nandini | if you've only seen the item once, about 90% of the data is from the itemid and enchant alone |
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| 16:23.32 | TNSe | Gagorian? It seems like you include impale on white attacks for melee (Warrior) |
| 16:24.40 | Pkekyo | TNSe: you lost me...what you talking about? :> |
| 16:24.55 | TNSe | DrDamage |
| 16:25.33 | CIA-14 | 03nemes * r46848 10PitBull/ (Aura/Aura.lua PitBull.toc): |
| 16:25.33 | CIA-14 | PitBull |
| 16:25.33 | CIA-14 | - Show weapon buffs for player |
| 16:25.56 | Nemes_ | ckknight: can you have a quick look over the pitbull_aura change I just made? |
| 16:27.56 | Pkekyo | TNSe: does impale not increase the crit bonus damage on white crits for warriors? |
| 16:28.01 | TNSe | no |
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| 16:28.56 | Chompers | Nemes_ : would that fix the issue with warriors not seeing deep wounds while buff filtering is enabled? |
| 16:29.37 | Nemes_ | ermm no... I only touched player buffs |
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| 16:29.53 | durcyn | his commit was for temporary enchants |
| 16:30.23 | Chompers | oh, okay then |
| 16:30.26 | TNSe | the tooltip says "Increases the critical strike damage of your abilities in Berzerker, Defensive and Battle stance." |
| 16:30.39 | TNSe | autoattack is not an 'ability' |
| 16:30.40 | Nemes_ | have you raised a bug report for that one chompers? |
| 16:30.42 | Nemes_ | 'cause my warrior sees deep wounds when I have debuff filtering enabled :-P |
| 16:31.00 | Chompers | i've spoken to ckknight about it, but he's busy with Joker |
| 16:31.15 | Chompers | well, Cowtip when i asked him |
| 16:31.22 | Nemes_ | well... write me a quick post on the forums and I'll have a quick look at it now |
| 16:31.35 | Nemes_ | in here please: http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?board=56.0 |
| 16:31.48 | Nemes_ | please attach your saved variables file and instructions on how to reproduce the issue |
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| 16:35.47 | Nandini | hmm i think WAU 2.0 wiped my "MyMedia" info in the SharedMedia addon folder when it updated SharedMedia |
| 16:37.06 | durcyn | if you set it to delete, then yes. |
| 16:37.38 | durcyn | in which case you want to put your customizations in a separate addon |
| 16:38.51 | Nandini | i can't find any setting that controls whether it would delete before unpacking |
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| 16:39.06 | sb | mhpf |
| 16:39.14 | Matrix110 | somebody highlight me please! |
| 16:39.20 | sb | Matrix110 |
| 16:39.26 | Matrix110 | thanks |
| 16:40.08 | Chompers | Nemes_: i fixed it, i changed the line [BS["Deep Wounds"]] = true, |
| 16:40.10 | Nandini | durcyn, i don't recall setting it to delete, can you point me to where i can find this setting or preference again? |
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| 16:40.26 | Chompers | the actual debuff is 'deep wound' |
| 16:40.36 | Nemes_ | haha nicely done |
| 16:40.40 | Chompers | so removing the s makes it appear |
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| 16:41.15 | Nemes_ | you want me to check that in? |
| 16:41.26 | Chompers | sure |
| 16:42.12 | Pkekyo | what the hell is the point of 'asstanking'? |
| 16:43.18 | Nandini | i dunno i've only been able to get it to work once, if you mean inching forward until the mob is hitting your back but you're hitting it from the front |
| 16:43.19 | CIA-14 | 03nemes * r46849 10PitBull/Aura/Aura.lua: |
| 16:43.19 | CIA-14 | PitBull |
| 16:43.19 | CIA-14 | - Aura: debuff filter: "Deep Wounds" -> "Deep Wound" |
| 16:43.28 | Pkekyo | fucking druid won't tell me what the benefit is, only says "l2asstank" or "l2p" |
| 16:43.45 | Pkekyo | Nandini: probably.. |
| 16:44.29 | Nandini | it has something to do with our hitbox in bear form, and special abilities that some bosses use that can only be applied when they're attacking you from the front |
| 16:44.41 | Chompers | you tank with a 2 hander Pkekyo ? :P |
| 16:44.50 | Nandini | for example, i think moroes cannot gouge you if you are asstanking it |
| 16:45.35 | cryogen | its almost certainly exploiting though :) |
| 16:45.55 | nevcairiel | on most bosses its more luck then skill to get him in an asstanking position |
| 16:46.20 | Nandini | yeah, i've only been able to do it once and it really wasn't all that beneficial in that setting |
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| 16:46.49 | Nandini | i've tried prolly a dozen times since and i don't really think it's worth the hassle in the kind of stuff i tank |
| 16:47.28 | Pkekyo | !ap 1454 |
| 16:47.28 | ThraeBot | Pkekyo: Arena points from a rating of 1454 is, 2v2: 250, 3v3: 286, 5v5: 358 |
| 16:47.55 | Pkekyo | Chompers: never |
| 16:48.03 | Nandini | i wonder if it's possible to get in such a position that you are attacking a boss from behind yet he is also attacking you from behind |
| 16:48.48 | Nandini | to avoid unneccessary parries |
| 16:49.22 | Pkekyo | but then again, you can't parry either |
| 16:49.35 | Amadeo | I really wish I could figure out why WoW runs so terribly in Linux for me, but everyone else says theirs runs just as fast as in Windows! |
| 16:49.37 | Nandini | then again, i'm a druid, so i can never parry or block :) |
| 16:50.18 | Nandini | maybe you are cpu-bound and they are gpu-bound? |
| 16:50.22 | Amadeo | Nandini: but your dodge chance is higher than most peoples chance to Parry and Block combined! |
| 16:51.10 | Amadeo | It's possible, but why would I lose so much framerate anyway? |
| 16:51.54 | Nandini | find out what kind of cpu, memory, graphics card they use and what video driver versions |
| 16:52.30 | TNSe | hmm, wowace updater sometimes doesn't load anything when I press reload :P |
| 16:53.52 | Amadeo | In Windows, running through Crossroads, I get about 40-45 fps with the same settings/addons as in Linux...where I get 19-25 fps |
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| 16:54.38 | Nandini | what is your cpu usage in windows while you are getting 40-45 fps? |
| 16:55.03 | Amadeo | hell if I know, but that means Linux is using more CPU than Windows? |
| 16:55.25 | steino | use opengl in linux ;) |
| 16:55.44 | Amadeo | I am |
| 16:55.49 | TNSe | wowace updater has now failed 3 times in a row :P |
| 16:55.55 | steino | nv or ati? |
| 16:55.59 | Pkekyo | !ap 1454 |
| 16:55.59 | ThraeBot | Pkekyo: Arena points from a rating of 1454 is, 2v2: 250, 3v3: 286, 5v5: 358 |
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| 16:56.08 | TNSe | Error During Download: System.Net.WebException: The remote server returned an error: (502) Bad Gateway. |
| 16:56.10 | TNSe | O_o |
| 16:56.56 | Nemes_ | looks like the SVN server is down |
| 16:57.05 | Nemes_ | also files.wowace.com |
| 16:57.11 | TNSe | ah |
| 16:57.16 | TNSe | that'll explain it |
| 16:57.19 | Amadeo | steino: Nvidia 6600 GT |
| 16:57.27 | steino | that should work just fine :O |
| 16:57.43 | steino | cedega or wine? |
| 16:58.24 | Amadeo | wine |
| 16:58.33 | Amadeo | I've tried Cedega in the past, only gained maybe 5 fps at most |
| 16:59.24 | Amadeo | WoW CPU use in Windows is like nothing |
| 16:59.35 | Amadeo | at least when running around, says maybe 5% at most |
| 16:59.37 | Nandini | it's nothing when you're alt-tabbed away from wow |
| 16:59.48 | Amadeo | I thought it only did that if you minimize |
| 17:00.18 | Nandini | i thought it throttled back framerate whenever it didn't have focus |
| 17:00.38 | Nemes_ | hrmm... mine sits at around 100% on one of the CPUs when it is visible |
| 17:01.02 | Amadeo | it would make more sense |
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| 17:01.15 | Amadeo | but how am I supposed to see it? :P |
| 17:01.34 | Nandini | collect performance counters |
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| 17:02.20 | Amadeo | it looks like it hits 100% when focused, yeah |
| 17:03.59 | Amadeo | but that doesn't change anything! |
| 17:04.47 | Nandini | well if you are getting that frame rate with 100% cpu usage in windows, it's likely you will get a lower frame rate in wine because it is using some CPU time for emulation |
| 17:05.40 | Nandini | i have no idea how cpu intensive just the wine emulation on its own is tho |
| 17:07.59 | Amadeo | Doesn't wine = Wine is Not an Emulator? :P |
| 17:08.00 | charon | it's not an emulation :) course it still wastes a bit of time to re-route calls |
| 17:08.03 | Amadeo | haha |
| 17:08.23 | Amadeo | maybe it is CPU then |
| 17:08.32 | Amadeo | I just have a P4 2.26GHz |
| 17:08.41 | charon | i imagine it's actually a linker that will link the windows API calls to equivalent function calls that do the same through linux apis |
| 17:08.59 | Nandini | lol yeah, some cpu usage must just be lost in translation |
| 17:10.10 | Nandini | i dunno if that's enough to explain your framerate dropping by half or not though, i'm not experienced with it |
| 17:10.58 | Amadeo | at least it's a possibility |
| 17:11.18 | Amadeo | but I still haven't seen proof of the same framerate in both operating systems, just word of mouth! |
| 17:11.23 | Amadeo | so.. :) |
| 17:12.31 | Amadeo | since most people have better computers than mine, I'd have to make them go somewhere that pushes it a bit |
| 17:13.35 | CIA-14 | 03yssaril * r46850 10YssGuildShop/ (YGS_DB.lua YssGuildShop.lua YssGuildShop.toc): |
| 17:13.35 | CIA-14 | YssGuildShop: |
| 17:13.35 | CIA-14 | - added backend code for later implementation of filtering which items you want to share |
| 17:15.17 | TNSe | Yssaril, guild bank is gonna be interesting for you huh :P |
| 17:16.22 | Yssaril | yea once they implement those ingame i might just have to either revise everything or just say goodbye to the addon or change the purpose of it |
| 17:16.37 | Yssaril | will all depend on how blizz implements the guild banks |
| 17:18.22 | Yssaril | at the very least i will add code so that you can see what is in the guild bank even if you are nowhere near the GuildBank banker :P |
| 17:19.32 | TNSe | hehe |
| 17:19.53 | TNSe | well, your addon lets people see the price the leaders set right? |
| 17:19.59 | TNSe | this just lets your addon keep a tab on things easier |
| 17:20.01 | TNSe | stock left |
| 17:20.01 | TNSe | etc |
| 17:20.03 | Yssaril | eventually yea |
| 17:20.13 | TNSe | update automatically |
| 17:20.17 | TNSe | without leaders having to do a shit |
| 17:20.19 | Yssaril | basicaly |
| 17:20.24 | TNSe | so it will help you a lot |
| 17:21.02 | Yssaril | my idea was i am to lazy to do the banking stuff myself so i am gonna write an elaborate addon that will do it for me :P |
| 17:21.41 | Yssaril | and because all the data is already there you can also see your alt's stuff and your guildmates stuff (if they chose to share it) |
| 17:22.10 | TNSe | I think guild banks will help |
| 17:22.16 | TNSe | depending on how much space they give us :P |
| 17:22.21 | Yssaril | yep |
| 17:22.28 | CIA-14 | 03ascalia * r46851 10AtlasLoot_BCInstances/burningcrusade.en.lua: |
| 17:22.28 | CIA-14 | AtlasLoot_BCInstances: |
| 17:22.28 | CIA-14 | - Loot update |
| 17:23.01 | Yssaril | i think they would have to give us at least the same amount of space as you could fill with one char with all bank slots maxed + whatever he can carrie |
| 17:24.41 | Yssaril | also instead of you haveing to look through icons and mouseover them to check what they are my addon simply displays an alpabetical list of stuff (itemlinked of course so you can link them dress up and all that (might add filterin/searching of items later but first i want to get the basic functions going) |
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| 17:27.12 | CIA-14 | 03cwdg * r46852 10Antagonist/Locals/zhCN.lua: |
| 17:27.12 | CIA-14 | Antagonist: update zhCN Local |
| 17:27.12 | CIA-14 | fix can't find font bug |
| 17:27.25 | Yssaril | anyways i got to head out gnight guys |
| 17:30.14 | TNSe | heh |
| 17:30.15 | TNSe | atleast |
| 17:30.24 | TNSe | hopefully they make a new interface |
| 17:31.30 | Javek | man....so the .toc file doesn't like forward slashes...took me a few reloads to figure out why it wasn't grabbing my lua files |
| 17:36.35 | CIA-14 | 03rabbit * r46853 10BossWhisperer/ (. BossWhisperer.lua BossWhisperer.toc): |
| 17:36.35 | CIA-14 | BossWhisperer: Merge in changes from Tristan's BossWhisperer2. Tristan, if you |
| 17:36.35 | CIA-14 | had read the forum topics on BossWhisperer, you'd have seen that I've given |
| 17:36.35 | CIA-14 | permission for anyone to do whatever they want to the addon. Making a '2' was |
| 17:36.35 | CIA-14 | not necessary. |
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| 17:41.09 | Fisker- | can you fish in SSC other than in lurker's pool? |
| 17:42.41 | Athou_ | yes |
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| 17:49.10 | Fisker- | blizzard needs a level 1 +525 fishing staff quest |
| 17:50.27 | ramoz | Cryect: i realize this is abit late, but is possible? ([18:03:20] < Cryect> heh could set it to the dead animation) |
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| 18:01.50 | Mecdemort | if an addon is disabled through its menu how come OnEnable is called? |
| 18:02.21 | Mudkips | that reminds me |
| 18:02.37 | Mudkips | why does recount still collect data in standby? |
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| 18:03.32 | Mecdemort | i have a feeling these parts of addons arent communicating with eachother |
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| 18:08.27 | Diao | uhh |
| 18:08.32 | Diao | my recount doesn't collect data in standby |
| 18:08.34 | Diao | o_o |
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| 18:12.25 | Mudkips | mine does :( |
| 18:12.33 | Mecdemort | i sware this is the first time ckknight hasnt been on now that i actually have a usefull question |
| 18:13.24 | Nandini | ramoz, it seems like for character model frames, you could set the animation to 51 (stop) instead of the default 1 (stand) and it might not move around, i'm not sure if the face-centered camera would still work on that animation tho |
| 18:14.56 | Nandini | i think all character and NPC models have animation 51 |
| 18:15.04 | ramoz | Nandini: how do you do that? |
| 18:18.17 | Nandini | i'm looking through pitbull_portrait right now to see if it can be done in there |
| 18:18.44 | ramoz | yea, me two |
| 18:18.58 | ramoz | but i have no experience in lua (or coding in general) :P |
| 18:19.11 | ramoz | or i did some mirc scripts back in the days |
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| 18:23.16 | Grum | lol just did a 2h25m fullclear of Kara |
| 18:23.21 | Grum | and we wasted 20 minutes :( |
| 18:25.33 | Nandini | ramoz, it looks like SetSequence has no effect on the PlayerModel flavor of model frame |
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| 18:29.41 | ramoz | ok |
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| 18:32.10 | CIA-14 | 03starinnia * r46854 10SimpleMD/ (Locale-esES.lua Locale-frFR.lua SimpleMD.toc): |
| 18:32.10 | CIA-14 | SimpleMD: |
| 18:32.10 | CIA-14 | - Added Spanish and French locales |
| 18:37.47 | rubik | is there a mod that will auto turn in repeatable quest items if i keep clicking quest npc |
| 18:37.50 | rubik | ? |
| 18:38.33 | ramoz | tried automaton? |
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| 18:41.37 | hypetech | where are the images for action button icons saved in the wow directory? |
| 18:42.39 | durcyn | hypetech: inside one or more MPQ archives |
| 18:42.49 | hypetech | hmm |
| 18:43.09 | hypetech | winrar open those? |
| 18:43.20 | hypetech | nope |
| 18:43.21 | hypetech | lol |
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| 18:43.52 | Fisker- | http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=MvTAt20eedU <-oh plz die :( |
| 18:47.14 | hypetech | If I wanted to change the icon of my backpack in my bagbar to be the same as the icon for an imbued netherweave bag, would it be easier to do with a mod, or by finding the place in an mpq file where I can change that? wherever that might be |
| 18:47.47 | Nandini | you can't change MPQ files |
| 18:48.00 | hypetech | well that answers that |
| 18:48.03 | Nandini | well you can, but the client will kick you if they're altered |
| 18:48.07 | hypetech | ah |
| 18:48.11 | hypetech | well damn |
| 18:48.36 | Nandini | you can extract the icons actually with blizzard's UI customization tool, those textures are stored in the interface art |
| 18:48.42 | Nandini | so it's possible you could replace them |
| 18:49.16 | hypetech | ah |
| 18:49.17 | hypetech | nice |
| 18:49.19 | hypetech | let me try that |
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| 18:50.14 | Funkeh` | loes |
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| 18:50.31 | durcyn | time was that placing files in the filesystem at the same paths as the MPQ would override the defaults |
| 18:50.39 | Nandini | you'd want to create a folder called \Icons under your Interface folder i think and put the new icon there, it would have to be the exact same name as the original one though |
| 18:51.03 | Nandini | i think you can still use the filesystem trick for textures that are under the \Interface folder in common.mpq |
| 18:53.42 | hypetech | bah. what is a .blp file? |
| 18:54.12 | Nandini | it's blizard's image storage format, contains raw or compressed image data and mipmaps |
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| 18:57.12 | Fisker- | isn't there something like /print that strips a item link? |
| 18:58.48 | Nandini | you just want to parse the text or itemid or something out of the link? |
| 18:58.59 | hypetech | umm. is there anything that can view the image of a .blp file? gimp doesn't like it |
| 18:59.40 | Nandini | hypertech: there used to be a wow texture viewer that could do it directly from inside the MPQ file, don't know if it's still around anywhere |
| 19:00.28 | Nandini | there are several tools that will convert a BLP to TGA or PNG, but your mileage will vary with those |
| 19:00.46 | hypetech | I don't think I need it anyway, these icon files are well named :) |
| 19:00.51 | Shirik | yeah, EPA estimates suck |
| 19:02.31 | Nandini | the converter i use is just called blpconverter, it converts to PNG files and handles almost all blizzard textures i've come across so far |
| 19:02.32 | hypetech | so if I take INV_Misc_Bag_24_Netherweave_Imbued.blp and copy and rename it to whatever the icon name is for the default backpack, and then put that file in Interface/Icons, that should replace the backpack icon with the imbued nweave icon in game? |
| 19:02.52 | Nandini | it might, i'm not sure exactly what the path expected for those icons is |
| 19:03.08 | Nandini | and i don't know if you can even replace item textures that way anymore |
| 19:03.12 | hypetech | hmm |
| 19:03.30 | Nandini | but give it a try, it can't hurt! |
| 19:03.47 | hypetech | now I just have to find which icon is the backpack :) |
| 19:04.32 | Nandini | since you know which one is imbued netherweave, just try replacing that with another one |
| 19:04.39 | Nandini | and see if it works in-game or if nothing happens |
| 19:05.09 | hypetech | true |
| 19:07.05 | Nandini | the backback is INV_Misc_Bag_08.blp by the way |
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| 19:09.08 | hypetech | <3 Nandini |
| 19:09.44 | hypetech | Nandini: http://s39.photobucket.com/albums/e160/hypetech/?action=view¤t=WoWScrnShot_081807_150816.jpg |
| 19:09.53 | hypetech | Imbued bags with core felcloth skin :p |
| 19:11.42 | Nandini | cool, glad it worked, did you see to replace INV_Misc_Bag_08.blp for the backpack? |
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| 19:12.32 | hypetech | ya, I just tried that, and that one didn't work |
| 19:12.44 | hypetech | that might be the backpack icon, but that's not the one it looks for in the action bar |
| 19:13.03 | Tuks | how do you identify wich addons is sending commands to ehe addon comm channel? |
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| 19:15.45 | Tuks | anyone? |
| 19:16.09 | hypetech | damn, 08 is the only one I see that's the backpack icon :-\ |
| 19:16.20 | hypetech | might be stored in a special place? |
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| 19:18.31 | Nandini | no idea Tuks, most Ace2 addons that use the addon channel use the AceComm-2.0 library, so those should be easy to identify |
| 19:18.58 | Tuks | i need an addot, or make an addon that identify the tafic that i get |
| 19:19.16 | Tuks | i need to analize wich addon is using the most bandwidth and all that shiet |
| 19:20.51 | Nandini | the addon comm channel only has a fixed amount of bandwidth it is allowed to use, and that's something like 5% of your total bandwidth |
| 19:21.15 | Nandini | so no single addon or combination of addons will be able to exceed that limit |
| 19:21.27 | Nandini | whether its ace2 or not |
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| 19:25.22 | Nandini | i guess the throttle is just on outbound data tho, not on inbound |
| 19:25.35 | hypetech | Nandini: think I found it :) |
| 19:25.40 | hypetech | Button-Backpack-Up.blp in Buttons |
| 19:26.07 | hypetech | so if it's in Buttons, will I need to use Interface/Buttons instead? |
| 19:26.09 | Nandini | so if the outbound limit is approximately 2KB/sec, it's possible that a raid of 40 ppl is sending you 2KB/sec inbound each |
| 19:26.16 | Nandini | that would be my guess, hypetech |
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| 19:27.29 | Nandini | i bet you're right, that looks like the one! |
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| 19:28.46 | hypetech | success! :) |
| 19:29.11 | Nandini | grats! now if only they would actually let us replace our real backpacks with something bigger! :) |
| 19:29.31 | hypetech | hehe |
| 19:30.33 | Tuks | well |
| 19:30.35 | Tuks | thats the problem |
| 19:31.09 | Tuks | i get incoming trafic close to.. 40k-50k.. when my max its like..5k at this hour |
| 19:31.51 | Tuks | i just want to identify what traffics comes from each channel, there must be a way :( |
| 19:32.38 | hypetech | Nandini: http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e160/hypetech/backpack.jpg |
| 19:32.43 | hypetech | if you wanted to see :p |
| 19:33.38 | Cryect | rats no ckk |
| 19:36.29 | Fisker- | wtf |
| 19:36.36 | Fisker- | all the US n00bs have started imitating my topics |
| 19:37.56 | Nandini | shame on us for imitating such eurocentric drivel |
| 19:38.15 | Nandini | btw, is cake still available? :) |
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| 19:44.24 | CIA-14 | 03deccard * r46855 10MiniChat/Core.lua: |
| 19:44.24 | CIA-14 | MiniChat: |
| 19:44.24 | CIA-14 | - small performance improvements |
| 19:46.37 | Pkekyo | I remember seeing a forum thread about Omen vs KTM, pros and cons...anyone know where I might've seen it? (not the ace forums, no) |
| 19:50.29 | ulic | maybe on elitistjerk? |
| 19:50.43 | Nandini | thre are several threads on the US forums |
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| 19:51.31 | Nandini | google gives some good results if you just put in Omen vs KTM |
| 19:51.45 | mjc | rawr |
| 19:51.52 | Mudkips | omen just wins because it updates with wau |
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| 19:52.22 | Mudkips | I'm not an infidel |
| 19:52.37 | Fisker- | yes you are :( |
| 19:52.56 | Nandini | are you sure you're not more interested in comparing threat-1.0 to KTM? unless you're looking specifically for a comparison of front-ends |
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| 19:53.14 | Mudkips | be more technical plz |
| 19:53.49 | Nandini | well there are several addons which can display data provided by threat-1.0 |
| 19:53.59 | Chompers | Mudkips has become 'Average WoW player #19045' |
| 19:54.12 | Mudkips | its okay |
| 19:54.16 | Chompers | "it updates with the updater, luls" |
| 19:54.22 | Mudkips | it's just that I don't care |
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| 19:55.57 | Nandini | they're both just guessing games from my perspective |
| 19:56.18 | mjc | is it possible to mess with the itunes announcemnt crap with an addon? |
| 19:57.04 | Mudkips | itunes |
| 19:57.10 | Mudkips | wryyy |
| 19:57.52 | mjc | Mudkips: I appreciate your valuable comment! |
| 19:58.59 | Mudkips | :( |
| 19:59.07 | Mudkips | announcement crap? |
| 19:59.13 | Mudkips | don't use itunes. FIXD |
| 19:59.28 | Keias | if you use AMIP, you can set a global hotkey to copy the song info to clipboard |
| 19:59.33 | Keias | And paste it into WoW |
| 19:59.33 | Keias | lol |
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| 20:13.01 | mjc | I use OSX; so it announces it on the screen in a frame |
| 20:13.09 | mjc | inside WoW |
| 20:13.27 | Fisker- | stupid Q&A team |
| 20:14.31 | mjc | ? |
| 20:14.44 | Fisker- | their fault :( |
| 20:14.52 | Fisker- | they only use macsd |
| 20:14.53 | Fisker- | macs |
| 20:15.02 | Fisker- | and gotta listen to linkin park on itunes |
| 20:15.56 | mjc | the itunes announcement stuff is a lot easier to do on OSX than on windows; since they already have the library that does it loaded |
| 20:16.24 | mjc | on windows you'd have to link against itunes which is a pain in the ass |
| 20:16.41 | mjc | because people always have random-ass versions of iTunes and quicktime or not even at all |
| 20:16.59 | Fisker- | or just windows media player |
| 20:17.07 | Kyahx | so they could atleast gives us in-game keybindings that emulate OS media keys |
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| 20:17.18 | Fisker- | and btw fail if iTunes change their api calls each new version |
| 20:17.21 | Fisker- | or at all |
| 20:17.49 | mjc | Fisker-: WMP linking is even worse than itunes on win |
| 20:18.01 | Fisker- | perhaps |
| 20:18.06 | Fisker- | that's not my point though :P |
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| 20:18.13 | mjc | plus it's not itunes that's the bigger issue on windows, it's the fact that you can't guarantee which lib gets loaded |
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| 20:24.27 | mjc | Fisker-: probably took about 15 minutes at the very most to do it on OSX; I could easily see writing the same code for windows in more than an hour... and there's a reason why shit like AMIP is really fucking complicated |
| 20:24.40 | mjc | cause the shit in all the windows players is a juke |
| 20:24.42 | mjc | joke |
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| 20:24.44 | CIA-14 | MiniChat: |
| 20:24.44 | CIA-14 | - fixed a bug where logging off during animated maximization resulted in wrong frame height |
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| 20:39.40 | CIA-14 | 03cryect * r46858 10Relog/ (parse.lua tags.lua units.lua): Relog - Couple bug fixes for major improvements in memory usage |
| 20:40.43 | CIA-14 | 03cryect * r46859 10Relog/units.lua: Relog - Minor bugfix and forgot to remove debug code |
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| 20:46.49 | Industrial | need help with recording games, tried taksi but its getting me 2fps |
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| 20:48.08 | Nandini | have you tried fraps or gamecam? |
| 20:48.17 | Cryect | I've never even heard of taksi |
| 20:48.37 | Industrial | open source app |
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| 20:50.40 | Nandini | have you tried recording uncompressed and then compressing after the fact? |
| 20:50.48 | Nandini | (yes, this takes many many gigs of HD space) |
| 20:51.18 | Industrial | no, i'm completely new with any kind of video things for the PC |
| 20:51.33 | Nandini | actually, if you have a fast processor but very slow hard drives, recording uncompressed may actually be worse |
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| 20:51.54 | Industrial | I just want to record a small clip (< 2m) of a game, with reasonable fps and working sound |
| 20:51.59 | Industrial | (the game is stepmania) |
| 20:54.56 | Industrial | like thishttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5kUgPY-Hmn8 |
| 20:54.58 | Nandini | have you seen any good stepmania videos on youtube? if so, just ask the author how they made them |
| 20:55.00 | Industrial | like this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5kUgPY-Hmn8 |
| 20:56.51 | CIA-14 | 03deccard * r46860 10MiniChat/Core.lua: |
| 20:56.51 | CIA-14 | MiniChat: |
| 20:56.51 | CIA-14 | - fix for displaying wrong button textures |
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| 21:00.04 | CIA-14 | 03cryect * r46861 10Relog/parse.lua: Relog - Forgot filter new log wasn't enabled |
| 21:00.14 | CIA-14 | 03cryect * r46862 10Record/Record.lua: Record - Calibrations added for Arcatraz, Botanica, Mechanaar, and The Eye |
| 21:00.23 | CIA-14 | 03cryect * r46863 10Recount/Sync.lua: Recount - Minor sync fix shouldn't have any benefit except performance |
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| 21:01.54 | xyu | i'd use fraps, it's worked for me in stepmania |
| 21:02.43 | Mudkips | stepmania |
| 21:02.46 | Mudkips | \o/ |
| 21:03.41 | CIA-14 | 03deccard * r46864 10MiniChat/Core.lua: |
| 21:03.41 | CIA-14 | MiniChat: |
| 21:03.41 | CIA-14 | - fix for misbehavior with SmartMinimize and animated maximization |
| 21:04.55 | CIA-14 | 03zuno * r46865 10UnitActionBars/ (ItemAction.lua MacroAction.lua SpellAction.lua): |
| 21:04.55 | CIA-14 | UnitActionBars: |
| 21:04.55 | CIA-14 | - Fixed nil problem with IsActive references |
| 21:19.54 | sb | Cryect: hmmm record isnt that accurate? :p |
| 21:20.31 | sb | i entered mana tombs and the cursor was 1. wrong direction 2. wrong position and 3. moving speed was strange ;o |
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| 21:28.15 | Cryect | sb: what version? |
| 21:28.32 | Cryect | there is some fixes that need to be done to GPSLib |
| 21:29.43 | sb | ah okay |
| 21:29.53 | sb | hm - ~20h ago? |
| 21:30.17 | Cryect | I'm surprised to hear you say wrong direction though |
| 21:30.27 | Cryect | I will go test out mana tombs real quick |
| 21:31.27 | sb | uhm wait |
| 21:31.32 | sb | it was sethekk with wrong direction |
| 21:31.38 | sb | mana tombs direction was correct :) |
| 21:31.47 | Cryect | alright will check out sethekk then |
| 21:32.49 | Cryect | besides that how does the map feel? |
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| 21:41.02 | Cryect | k have sethikk halls better now |
| 21:41.53 | Cryect | hmmm mana tombs seems off by same amount so prolly something strange with calibration then |
| 21:44.24 | sb | k, trying some other instances ;o |
| 21:47.20 | CIA-14 | 03Silowyi * r46866 10MissRate/ (MissRate.lua MissRate.toc): |
| 21:47.20 | CIA-14 | MissRate: |
| 21:47.20 | CIA-14 | - Added alt-click to delete a category or skill line |
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| 21:50.09 | Silowyi | so I experienced something interesting last night |
| 21:50.45 | Silowyi | I'm currently packing 8.88% hit, which by everyone's data should mean I never miss |
| 21:51.08 | Silowyi | however I missed with both a rake and a Shred against Onyxia |
| 21:51.41 | CIA-14 | 03starinnia * r46867 10SimpleMD/ (Locale-frFR.lua SimpleMD.lua): |
| 21:51.41 | CIA-14 | SimpleMD: |
| 21:51.41 | CIA-14 | - frFR update and a logic update |
| 21:51.54 | Jaxon | Silowyi: there is always, always a 1% chance to miss. |
| 21:51.55 | Silowyi | ergo, the theory that you can never totally negate misses against boss mobs holds |
| 21:52.19 | Silowyi | tbh Jaxon I don't think it's anything near 1% |
| 21:52.54 | Silowyi | I recorded 2 totally misses out of 1000 attacks. |
| 21:53.18 | Silowyi | that's pretty goo luck at 1% |
| 21:53.27 | Jaxon | ALWAYS 1%. Given a large enough field of data, it will be 1%. |
| 21:53.52 | Silowyi | Jaxon the 1% chance has never been empirically tested |
| 21:54.47 | Jaxon | ...fine, think whatever you want. |
| 21:55.52 | sb | Cryect: so its some GPSlib issue? |
| 21:56.51 | sb | Cryect: http://img147.imageshack.us/img147/8721/wowscrnshot081807235543kf9.jpg |
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| 22:00.55 | CAL|SMELTN | hello |
| 22:01.03 | CAL|SMELTN | anyone actually get arena_fu working? |
| 22:06.00 | sb | hm wtf |
| 22:06.08 | sb | why is there windows in that screenshot |
| 22:06.22 | sb | wtb more alcohol |
| 22:06.45 | CIA-14 | 03nebelmond * r46868 10PVPtimer/ (Locale-koKR.lua PVPtimer.toc readme.txt): |
| 22:06.45 | CIA-14 | PVPtimer: |
| 22:06.45 | CIA-14 | - added Korean localization |
| 22:07.21 | sb | Cryect: http://img138.imageshack.us/img138/7674/wowscrnshot081807235430bx4.jpg - try that one ;p |
| 22:10.35 | CIA-14 | 03cryect * r46869 10Record/Record.lua: Record - Fixes for Auchindoun instances |
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| 22:28.29 | Hjalte | How accurate is this GPSlib? |
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| 22:30.34 | Grum | Cryect: will Record change instance maps when you join an instance? |
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| 22:36.00 | Cryect | grum: the latest version does |
| 22:36.34 | Grum | can i do it manually now? |
| 22:38.12 | Grum | updated - how can i nudge around the map? |
| 22:38.22 | Grum | because i'm not showing @ the right spot in slavepens right now |
| 22:39.03 | Cryect | left click on map to move around |
| 22:39.06 | Cryect | mousewheel zooms |
| 22:39.25 | Chaotic_D | wooo! I R smart! I guesstimated that "hook" had something to do with changing how an existing Blizzard interface worked! and then I went and found out. (sorta, so far. gotta read more) so I didn't have to ask you guys! |
| 22:39.37 | Grum | yeah but how cna i allign the map correctly? |
| 22:40.15 | Grum | the 'player arrow' is not on the right spot in SP atm |
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| 22:41.02 | Cryect | Oh that I calibrated it wrong >_> |
| 22:41.07 | Cryect | for some reason I had some sort of strange offset |
| 22:41.10 | Cryect | when I calibrated maps |
| 22:41.26 | Grum | let me calibrate it |
| 22:41.29 | Grum | tell me how :D |
| 22:41.43 | Grum | i'll give you the 'new' values |
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| 22:42.54 | Grum | ? :( |
| 22:44.37 | Cryect | uh middle ofdoing something |
| 22:44.56 | Grum | give info so i can give you info back ;D |
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| 22:45.01 | Pkekyo | !c eu bloodfeather baesj |
| 22:45.05 | ThraeBot | Pkekyo: Baesj, Level 70 Tauren Warrior (35/23/3). 9853 HP; 7385 Armour; 1488 AP; 236.1 Melee DPS; 23.4% melee crit; 102 melee hit; 7.38% dodge; 5% block; 46 resilience; 10 nature resist (+10);[[ TBR: 969 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/ytatlc ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/2okjqb ]] |
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| 22:49.33 | Grum | ./Script MapOffsets["The Slave Pens"] = {-614,1059} seems correct |
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| 22:51.05 | Grum | seems to align perfectly even =D |
| 22:57.10 | Grum | Cryect: /Script MapOffsets["Serpentshrine Cavern"] = {-1162,957} |
| 23:00.01 | Grum | i wonder how accurate GPSlib is :D |
| 23:01.01 | sb | Grum: ssc is correct with that values? |
| 23:02.34 | Grum | yeah |
| 23:02.42 | Grum | at least - the entrance is - on my alt atm |
| 23:02.53 | Grum | cant walk upto morogrim on this char |
| 23:03.21 | Grum | was planning on doing UNberbog as well but got kinda ganked =D |
| 23:03.45 | Grum | SV should b e no problem |
| 23:04.49 | Grum | slavepens also seemed 'moved' -- the coord above seemed to be ok |
| 23:05.34 | JoshBorke | what are you doing? updating GPSLib with correct values? |
| 23:05.41 | Grum | damn sweet addon btw, it works smooooth |
| 23:05.52 | Grum | JoshBorke: i looked into GPSlib but it hasn't got a table |
| 23:05.59 | Grum | so just fixing the offsets in Record |
| 23:10.04 | ramoz | Are you guys working on a addon to show stuff inside instances? |
| 23:10.15 | ramoz | partymembers on maps i mean |
| 23:10.47 | Cryect | kinda, I like to add that to cartographer but working out hte details in record |
| 23:11.09 | JoshBorke | Cryect: work on recount! i got way too many bugs teh other night :-P |
| 23:11.20 | JoshBorke | i was gonna bitch at you in game but you weren't there :-P |
| 23:11.23 | Cryect | I fix the bugs as I get them :-p |
| 23:11.31 | Cryect | I fixed a bug today actually |
| 23:11.41 | Cryect | Fixed a ton of stuff in relog |
| 23:11.41 | JoshBorke | psh, i got like 5 of them :-P |
| 23:12.13 | Grum | Cryect: which instances do you need most? |
| 23:13.21 | Grum | do you have all pre-tbc ones? :) |
| 23:13.35 | Cryect | none of those |
| 23:14.23 | Chaotic_D | would I need to hook a function to change the text in the window the NPCs popup for offering quests? |
| 23:14.44 | JoshBorke | Cryect: http://ace.pastey.net/72404 |
| 23:14.47 | Grum | do you want those Cryect? |
| 23:15.01 | Cryect | yeah if you could that would be helpful |
| 23:15.14 | Cryect | I need to figure out what calibrated wrong though |
| 23:15.29 | Grum | it seems to be a static offset |
| 23:15.48 | Cryect | yeah |
| 23:16.00 | Cryect | I had like a bad calibration and like all of them are off by that |
| 23:16.03 | Grum | is it only in Coilfang? |
| 23:16.09 | Grum | or in all? |
| 23:16.22 | Cryect | all coilfang and hellfire should have the same wrong offset |
| 23:16.28 | Cryect | the same one auchidoun had |
| 23:16.52 | Grum | i think it is based on whatever GPSlib inits with |
| 23:16.58 | Grum | so that will be diff on every client right? |
| 23:17.06 | Cryect | JoshBorke: I'm guessing you use delete combatants? |
| 23:17.26 | Cryect | Well in theory GPSLib recalibrates everytime you zone into the world |
| 23:17.38 | JoshBorke | what is delete combatants? o.O |
| 23:18.58 | Nandini | why do I always see people saying not to use RLE compression in TGA files you intended to use as in-game textures? they seem to display exactly the same for me whether they're compressed or not |
| 23:19.07 | mikma | JoshBorke: combat ants! you know |
| 23:19.10 | Grum | Cryect: so it depends on how many times you do that? |
| 23:19.20 | Grum | sigh so the numbers i'm saying might be as off as yours where? |
| 23:19.49 | Cryect | WEll there is one way to guarantee its correct |
| 23:19.54 | Cryect | restart wow |
| 23:19.59 | Cryect | and just loadup inside the instance |
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| 23:20.29 | JoshBorke | Cryect: as far as i know, i am not using delete combatants |
| 23:20.36 | Chaotic_D | crap. is it as complicated as it seems to me to change text in an existing Blizzard UI window? or maybe I just don't understand how any of this works. |
| 23:20.49 | Cryect | JoshBorke: k |
| 23:21.10 | CIA-14 | 03cryect * r46870 10GPSLib/GPS-1.0/GPS-1.0.lua: GPSLib - Slight change adding calibration on the WORLD_MAP_UPDATE event as well |
| 23:22.03 | Nandini | Chaotic_D: why do you want to change the text? |
| 23:22.07 | JoshBorke | Chaotic_D: check the framexml and see how it is done by blizzard |
| 23:22.08 | JoshBorke | ~framexml |
| 23:22.09 | purl | get the official Blizzard Interface AddOn Kit here: http://www.blizzard.com/support/wow/?id=aww01671p or view it online at http://wdn.wowinterface.com/ |
| 23:22.44 | Chaotic_D | yeah, I got the addon kit. |
| 23:22.57 | Grum | Cryect: can i force it to 'recalibrate' manually for a zillion times making it accurate? :) |
| 23:23.12 | Chaotic_D | I'm just wondering if I gotta replace the whole thing or if there's some way to intercept the ... I don't know in what order things are called. |
| 23:23.24 | Grum | what exaclty do you want to change? |
| 23:24.35 | CIA-14 | 03cryect * r46871 10Record/Record.lua: |
| 23:24.35 | CIA-14 | Record - Adds SSC |
| 23:24.35 | CIA-14 | - Fixes Slave Pens |
| 23:25.25 | Nandini | Chaotic_D: what is the end result you are trying to accomplish? |
| 23:25.41 | Grum | Cryect: let me log in into SP again |
| 23:25.46 | Grum | and see what happens |
| 23:26.04 | Grum | can i just call 'GPSEvents:PLAYER_ENTERING_WORLD() by hand perhaps? :P |
| 23:26.27 | Cryect | oh yes you can you shouldn't be able to >_> |
| 23:26.32 | Cryect | I forgot I have it global at the moment |
| 23:26.37 | Cryect | for testing purposes :-p |
| 23:26.54 | Chaotic_D | I'm wanting to change the text on NPCs windows where they offer quests, so based on a script separate from the addon, it can be suggested to the player whether to take the quest or not. |
| 23:27.16 | Chaotic_D | I think there's two separate windows, depending on whether they offer one quest or more than one. |
| 23:27.39 | Grum | i know Cryect |
| 23:27.47 | Grum | i just want to make sure the locs i give are 'correct' |
| 23:28.31 | Cryect | you can call it by hand if you want |
| 23:28.43 | Cryect | It only works for calibrating if it can get Map coordinates |
| 23:29.09 | sb | uhm Cryect - no more arrow in instances ;p |
| 23:29.32 | Cryect | That sounds like GPSLib messed up for you sb because of map pings |
| 23:29.47 | Chaotic_D | do I like... have to hook QuestFrame.lua's QuestFrameGreetingPanel_OnShow ? and then... copy the whole thing, and rewrite the part where it shows the title? |
| 23:30.06 | sb | Cryect: so restart wow :o |
| 23:30.08 | sb | *testing* |
| 23:30.31 | Cryect | yeah |
| 23:30.37 | Grum | meh i lost the window |
| 23:30.40 | Grum | how can i get it back? :P |
| 23:30.45 | Cryect | yeah I need to add some commands for that :-p |
| 23:30.54 | Grum | ./script it for me ;D |
| 23:30.56 | Cryect | do /script Record.MainWindow:Show() |
| 23:31.00 | Nandini | Chaotic_D: perhaps you want to find the fontstrings within those panels that represent quest hyperlinks and change their format based on the text they contain |
| 23:31.04 | Grum | ty |
| 23:31.30 | Pkekyo | "She's smart, has a great personality, and knows that the way to a man's heart is through the sternum!" |
| 23:31.31 | sb | hm no |
| 23:31.35 | sb | restarting... |
| 23:32.34 | sb | Cryect: mhh if finally working - i think its to heavy to integrate it into cartographer instance maps? :p |
| 23:33.12 | Chaotic_D | hrm... so unfamiliar with all this stuff. I guess I gotta search on all these functions it calls to figure out where they're coming from and what they're doing. |
| 23:33.14 | sb | + they are going to fix it then |
| 23:33.30 | Chaotic_D | fontstrings? |
| 23:35.04 | CIA-14 | 03cryect * r46872 10GPSLib/GPS-1.0/GPS-1.0.lua: GPSLib - Changed WORLD_MAP_UPDATE event to a bucket event |
| 23:35.12 | Grum | ./script MapOffsets["The Underbog"] = {-730,316} for my GPSlib |
| 23:35.23 | Cryect | once its fully working no it wouldn't be too heavy for cartographer |
| 23:35.32 | sb | performance wise i mean |
| 23:35.40 | sb | but blizzard would be going to fix it? |
| 23:35.40 | Cryect | performance is extremely low |
| 23:35.41 | *** join/#wowace Kilro1 (n=Kilroo@cpe-071-076-173-175.triad.res.rr.com) |
| 23:35.48 | Cryect | doubt it |
| 23:35.58 | Cryect | I think the only reason they blocked it was for range determining etc |
| 23:35.59 | sb | if it spreads in such a addon... |
| 23:36.08 | sb | hm |
| 23:36.14 | Cryect | but... they've made it easier to figure out ranges since then so |
| 23:36.25 | Grum | you still can not get range of a mob |
| 23:36.27 | Grum | just of people |
| 23:36.32 | Cryect | I mean the only fight it would matter is for heigan |
| 23:36.34 | sb | would be really great as instance map %-) |
| 23:36.39 | Grum | hell yeah |
| 23:36.41 | Cryect | I could have an addon that say your in the safezone etc |
| 23:37.02 | Cryect | also they disabled it I think to prevent botting in the original API |
| 23:37.10 | sb | hmm yes |
| 23:37.23 | Cryect | They didn't want instance maps etc so also what would the command return a value for :-p |
| 23:37.43 | Cryect | Their opinions might change to actually include instance maps in the future I wouldn't be surprised |
| 23:37.49 | sb | hm yep |
| 23:37.50 | Chaotic_D | :S I'm finding in QuestFrame.xml lots of inherits="QuestTitleFont" but no "QuestTitleFont" that's not inherited, or in QuestFrameTemplates.xml so I don't know where it's inherited from. |
| 23:39.22 | Nandini | QuestTitleFont is probably a fontobject defined in another file |
| 23:39.40 | Cryect | sb btw I think I fixed the memory leaks in Relog :) |
| 23:39.48 | sb | oh :) |
| 23:39.56 | Cryect | I found 2 really bad ones |
| 23:40.12 | sb | could you make filtering saved accross sessions? :o |
| 23:40.13 | Grum | Cryect: after exit and login /script MapOffsets["The Underbog"] = {-730,316} still seems 'good' for me |
| 23:40.27 | Cryect | sounds good grum will commit in a moment :) |
| 23:40.37 | Chaotic_D | well QuestFrame.xml only mentions QuestFrame.lua and QuestFrameTemplates.xml, and it's in none of the other two files. |
| 23:40.42 | Grum | let me do SV as ewll then |
| 23:40.50 | Chaotic_D | It's so hard to figure out how this stuff works. |
| 23:46.18 | Grum | ./script MapOffsets["The Steamvault"] = {-359,983} |
| 23:47.08 | Grum | if i cba i'll do all lowerlvl instances tomorrow |
| 23:47.25 | Chaotic_D | what are "active" quests? are those ones you've already accepted? |
| 23:48.03 | Grum | that or the active ones for display (5 at most i think) |
| 23:49.06 | Chaotic_D | man, this stuff is like a puzzle. where you're trying to figure out how it works before you can even start to do anything with it. |
| 23:49.18 | Grum | what else is new? :) |
| 23:49.26 | Chaotic_D | if this were a game like Myst, I'd have a lot more clues. |
| 23:49.41 | Grum | you got all the clues you want - it's all in framexml |
| 23:49.41 | Chaotic_D | I mean... if the puzzle were in Myst. |
| 23:49.59 | sb | Cryect: mh sync for other players already working? :p |
| 23:50.14 | Cryect | in theory it syncs |
| 23:50.20 | Chaotic_D | framexml doesn't seem to show me much except a list of the files in the folder. |
| 23:50.24 | sb | okay, doesnt work ;p |
| 23:50.32 | Cryect | well it doesn't show them |
| 23:50.34 | sb | is there anything i could provide to make it work? :p |
| 23:50.34 | sb | ah |
| 23:50.35 | sb | :) |
| 23:50.36 | Cryect | it just syncs the data |
| 23:51.43 | CIA-14 | 03cryect * r46873 10Recount/ (Fights.lua GUI_Main.lua): Recount - Fixes cache for main window not being reset between fights |
| 23:52.25 | Grum | ah well .. bedtime :D |
| 23:52.29 | Cryect | night |
| 23:52.48 | Chaotic_D | and no, there could be more clues. |
| 23:53.38 | CIA-14 | 03cryect * r46874 10Record/Record.lua: Record - Few more fixes thanks to Grum |
| 23:54.25 | Chaotic_D | guh. like absolutely every function call in here is a mystery to me. |
| 23:55.11 | Nandini | start here Chaotic_D: http://www.wowwiki.com/Interface_Customization |
| 23:55.32 | sb | Cryect: awesome :) *sigh* |
| 23:55.34 | Nandini | read every page listed there, and every page linked to from those pages |
| 23:55.39 | Chaotic_D | hrm. I don't remember seeing that page before... |
| 23:56.13 | Nandini | search is your friend |
| 23:56.44 | Chaotic_D | yeah, I've used the search a lot. |
| 23:57.04 | Chaotic_D | I've seen some of the pages linked to there... like the big API list. |
| 23:57.46 | Nandini | Cryect: for determining instance offsets, is it best for me to zoom all the way in with the Record window, scale the minimap way up, zoom all the way in on the minimap, stand next to an obvious place on the map, then adjust the offsets until both arrows match? |
