| 00:00.07 | NightHawkTheSane | I'm not sure I like the new mac keyboards. |
| 00:00.11 | NightHawkTheSane | I'd have to try one and see, though |
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| 00:00.30 | Amadeo | hahaha, I just took a great chat screenshot :P |
| 00:01.04 | Pkekyo | what's the name of that fancypants mac that's got all the hardware in the monitor casing? |
| 00:01.13 | NightHawkTheSane | that would be an imac. |
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| 00:01.43 | Punkie` | haha |
| 00:01.49 | Amadeo | fancypants, lol |
| 00:01.55 | Pkekyo | anyone know h/w/d measurements on those? cba to googleit :> |
| 00:02.22 | Punkie` | http://www.apple.com/uk/imac/specs.html |
| 00:02.29 | Pkekyo | Amadeo: it's a good word. |
| 00:03.16 | Pkekyo | 7.5 inches deep? that's one hell of a monitor |
| 00:03.37 | NightHawkTheSane | well, as you noted, it has all the other hardware in there too :P |
| 00:03.50 | Punkie` | Pkekyo: No |
| 00:03.52 | Pkekyo | true, but still...geif nano-sized hardware |
| 00:04.04 | Punkie` | it's the thickness from the front of the LCD to the back of the stand |
| 00:04.07 | NightHawkTheSane | Pkekyo: wts macbook/pro? |
| 00:04.18 | Amadeo | Pkekyo: You wanna see my monitor? :P |
| 00:04.34 | Pkekyo | Amadeo: not really? |
| 00:04.45 | Pkekyo | whatyougot? |
| 00:04.58 | Amadeo | Brace yourselves |
| 00:05.11 | Amadeo | Hitachi SuperScan Elite 802 :P |
| 00:05.24 | Pkekyo | inches? |
| 00:05.28 | Punkie` | Pkekyo: http://www.apple.com/uk/imac/design.html = 7.5 inches |
| 00:05.34 | Amadeo | Pkekyo: It's a stone age 21" CRT |
| 00:05.43 | Amadeo | it's probably deeper than it is wide |
| 00:05.44 | Pkekyo | I'm used to a 19" CRT myself |
| 00:05.56 | NightHawkTheSane | I'm using a 17" crt as my second monitor |
| 00:05.59 | Amadeo | and puts off enough heat to keep warm in the winter |
| 00:06.13 | Pkekyo | I tried frying bacon on mine once ^^ |
| 00:06.18 | Amadeo | I think it weighs 76 lbs |
| 00:06.27 | Punkie` | did you explode your house Pkekyo? |
| 00:06.35 | NightHawkTheSane | crt's over 19" are just a bad idea :P |
| 00:06.40 | Pkekyo | Punkie`: noes :> |
| 00:06.44 | pastamancer | I <3 my 21" crt |
| 00:06.48 | Amadeo | NightHawkTheSane: I got this like 10 years ago :P |
| 00:06.58 | Pkekyo | NightHawkTheSane: CRTs over 15" are a really fucking bad idea ;> |
| 00:06.59 | Amadeo | it was bad-ass back then, haha |
| 00:07.00 | NightHawkTheSane | they were still a bad idea then :P |
| 00:07.19 | NightHawkTheSane | its just it was the only option |
| 00:07.20 | Amadeo | I had a Sony F500 for about 5 minutes once, before it broke since it was smashed up in shipping |
| 00:07.23 | Amadeo | THe picture was incredible |
| 00:07.38 | Punkie` | I've hated CRT's ever since my 15" LCD :D |
| 00:07.50 | Punkie` | it had like 20ms response time but somehow it had no ghosting |
| 00:07.55 | Punkie` | viewsonic = <3 |
| 00:08.08 | Amadeo | I hate my CRT, but I also hate most LCDs |
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| 00:08.20 | Punkie` | well you can blow a lot of cash for an awesome CRT |
| 00:08.28 | Punkie` | really crisp etc |
| 00:08.34 | Punkie` | but they are huge |
| 00:08.36 | Punkie` | so meh! |
| 00:08.38 | Amadeo | I bought a Dell LCD once, I forget the model name now..it was a 20.1" widescreen...man it was awful, I sent it back |
| 00:08.47 | Amadeo | all the corners had light bleeding |
| 00:08.50 | Punkie` | ouch |
| 00:09.07 | Amadeo | I actually had them send me 2 others, they all had the same problem in different degrees |
| 00:09.15 | Cyre2 | I've got a few CRT's with Trinitron. |
| 00:09.15 | Amadeo | I thought maybe it was just an issue with that one |
| 00:09.30 | NightHawkTheSane | dell uses shit parts :P |
| 00:09.32 | Amadeo | Those wires get on my nerves |
| 00:09.35 | Amadeo | in Trinitrons |
| 00:09.49 | Punkie` | I hated those ancient LCD |
| 00:09.52 | Punkie` | bleh |
| 00:09.55 | Cyre2 | I'm used to it. |
| 00:10.09 | Amadeo | I need an LCD, but I don't want to spend much |
| 00:10.12 | Amadeo | maybe $100 :P |
| 00:10.13 | Punkie` | LCD's that when you touched them you had to wait like half a minute for the liquid to go back |
| 00:10.48 | Amadeo | but now days they just make junk LCDs |
| 00:10.50 | Amadeo | with TN panels |
| 00:10.56 | Amadeo | brb |
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| 00:11.43 | Pkekyo | aye, I'm off...g'nite all! |
| 00:12.37 | Mecdemort | ckknight: does AddCategory() inherit from anything? |
| 00:12.54 | ckknight | it works as AddLine as well |
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| 00:13.12 | Killmore | omg |
| 00:13.13 | Killmore | [2007/08/26 20:07:30-461-x1600]: Decursive\Dcr_Raid.lua:510: attempt to call global 'PetUnitName' (a nil value) --- |
| 00:13.14 | Mecdemort | where would i put settings i want it to inherit tho? |
| 00:13.20 | Killmore | every 1sec... since 10min |
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| 00:17.58 | ckknight | Mecdemort: ? |
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| 00:20.04 | SaladFork | Gahhh |
| 00:20.12 | SaladFork | Anyone know why spell tooltips would suddenly stop appearing? |
| 00:20.24 | SaladFork | I get spell name and rank name in my tooltip, but no spell description whatsoever |
| 00:20.31 | SaladFork | I disabled all addons, so it must be something inside WoW |
| 00:20.34 | SaladFork | But I can't for the life of me figure it out |
| 00:20.46 | SaladFork | Before I do a full reinstall, anyone have any idea? |
| 00:21.03 | NightHawkTheSane | delete your cache and/or wtf folders? |
| 00:21.16 | SaladFork | I deleted the cache folder already, guess the WTF folder is next to go |
| 00:21.17 | SaladFork | >.< |
| 00:21.24 | SaladFork | There goes all my interface customizations |
| 00:21.33 | NightHawkTheSane | well |
| 00:21.35 | NightHawkTheSane | by delete i mean move |
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| 00:21.51 | SaladFork | Well, I just opened Config.wtf |
| 00:21.55 | SaladFork | Inside WoW\WTF\ |
| 00:21.59 | SaladFork | And at the bototm |
| 00:22.00 | SaladFork | I see |
| 00:22.05 | SaladFork | SET UberTooltips "0" |
| 00:22.05 | Amadeo | It's not possible to automatically retarget FDing Hunters like it was in the past, is it? (Such as it did in addons like SpellAlert) |
| 00:22.06 | SaladFork | o_O |
| 00:22.20 | JoshBorke | no Amadeo |
| 00:22.28 | Amadeo | Damn, I loved that ability |
| 00:22.29 | NightHawkTheSane | SaladFork: which means you should check your interface options in game |
| 00:22.32 | Amadeo | Saves keybinds |
| 00:22.35 | NightHawkTheSane | because dollars to donuts says you didn't |
| 00:22.39 | SaladFork | Night - I did, there was no mention whatsoever of tooltips |
| 00:22.46 | Mecdemort | ckknight: I've got 7 AddCategories and then all have ('child_indentation', 20) is there any way for them all to inherit that instead of specifying it for each |
| 00:22.47 | NightHawkTheSane | guess you're blind then :) |
| 00:22.49 | SaladFork | I looked at Interface Options (both tabs) option by option |
| 00:22.58 | SaladFork | Night - mind checking yours then, and seeing if there's ANY mention whatsoever of spell tooltips? |
| 00:23.02 | SaladFork | Or any tooltips, for that matter |
| 00:23.05 | NightHawkTheSane | There is. |
| 00:23.11 | NightHawkTheSane | I'm looking at them now. |
| 00:23.13 | NightHawkTheSane | :) |
| 00:23.15 | ckknight | Mecdemort: child_child_indentation |
| 00:23.25 | Mecdemort | but where would i put that? |
| 00:23.36 | ckknight | *sigh* |
| 00:23.38 | SaladFork | You're kidding? |
| 00:23.40 | SaladFork | I missed it?! |
| 00:23.51 | NightHawkTheSane | no, i'm not. yes, you did. |
| 00:23.55 | SaladFork | Gah |
| 00:23.58 | SaladFork | Though I must say |
| 00:24.08 | SaladFork | disabling my addons and watching my account load in 2-3 seconds was fun |
| 00:24.11 | SaladFork | Unlike the usual 1-2min |
| 00:24.20 | SaladFork | K, logging back in |
| 00:24.25 | SaladFork | Let's check out these Interface Options |
| 00:24.32 | Mecdemort | is that what can go inside the data table? |
| 00:25.25 | SaladFork | Son of a BITCH. |
| 00:25.47 | NightHawkTheSane | :) |
| 00:25.55 | SaladFork | I totally confused Beginner/Advanced Tooltips and Tutorials |
| 00:25.59 | SaladFork | Thanks Night, saved me a reinstall |
| 00:26.36 | SaladFork | Though removing all my addons was interesting |
| 00:26.36 | NightHawkTheSane | no problem, my job here is to make people feel sillyu |
| 00:26.40 | SaladFork | Hehe |
| 00:26.54 | SaladFork | Though I guess I should clean my Addon folder out |
| 00:26.57 | SaladFork | Up to 315 addons now |
| 00:27.00 | SaladFork | Loading time's a bitch |
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| 00:27.52 | SaladFork | Night, while I have you here |
| 00:27.56 | SaladFork | You know of the addon called Khaos? |
| 00:28.07 | Mecdemort | ckknight: I'm confused because addline inherits from it's AddCategory so you put addline's child_ there, but where do you put them for AddCategory to inherit |
| 00:28.30 | ckknight | AddCategory inherits from its super-categories. |
| 00:28.30 | NightHawkTheSane | SaladFork: yes? |
| 00:28.37 | NightHawkTheSane | i know of it, i don't use it.. |
| 00:28.41 | SaladFork | I use it a lot for enabling/disabling addons while in game |
| 00:28.54 | SaladFork | It does have quite a bit of overhead though, andi s quite... ugly to use |
| 00:28.57 | NightHawkTheSane | ah. I use rmcp for that |
| 00:28.59 | SaladFork | Any idea of an Ace equiv? |
| 00:28.59 | Mecdemort | oh you can do category:AddCategory? |
| 00:29.08 | SaladFork | Or any other? |
| 00:29.09 | SaladFork | RMCP? |
| 00:29.11 | NightHawkTheSane | SaladFork: check out rmcp, not ace, but niceand lightweight |
| 00:29.14 | NightHawkTheSane | it's on wowi |
| 00:29.27 | SaladFork | Does it handle per-character profiles? |
| 00:29.47 | NightHawkTheSane | erm... o_0 |
| 00:29.57 | NightHawkTheSane | i think you mean something other than enabling/disabling? |
| 00:30.02 | SaladFork | Screenshots look like it's exactly what I'm looking for |
| 00:30.15 | NightHawkTheSane | because the game, by default, supports character specific profiles for enabled addons :P |
| 00:30.17 | SaladFork | Night - what I mean is if I disable/enable something for one character, will it annoyingly do the same for my other character |
| 00:30.28 | SaladFork | Yeah, but you'd be surprised how annoying some of these addon managers can be |
| 00:30.54 | NightHawkTheSane | ah. *shrug* not sure, I think it defaults to using the per-character settings |
| 00:30.56 | SaladFork | This looks like exactly what I'm looking for |
| 00:30.58 | SaladFork | Thanks so much! =) |
| 00:31.08 | NightHawkTheSane | you could ask rophy, as I believe he's the author |
| 00:31.24 | SaladFork | Any known bugs? |
| 00:31.33 | NightHawkTheSane | I havne't encountered any. |
| 00:31.44 | SaladFork | Well, let's give it a whirl |
| 00:32.37 | SaladFork | Any shortcut to opening it, or do I have to /rmcp each time? |
| 00:33.19 | SaladFork | Oh wait |
| 00:33.21 | SaladFork | Night - check this out |
| 00:33.22 | SaladFork | http://www.wowace.com/wiki/ACP |
| 00:33.22 | SaladFork | .wiki ACP |
| 00:33.27 | NightHawkTheSane | yeah |
| 00:33.32 | NightHawkTheSane | i've seen it |
| 00:33.34 | SaladFork | Any reason you use rMCP instead of ACP? |
| 00:33.43 | NightHawkTheSane | I don't really need the full on functionality of ACP? :) |
| 00:33.53 | NightHawkTheSane | rmcp is lighter and does what I need |
| 00:33.59 | SaladFork | mmmk |
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| 00:39.25 | Gamefaq | hi |
| 00:42.55 | Tinyboom | bah... was a lib update yesterday that really borked Cryolysis.... my mage feels lost:( |
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| 00:45.37 | SaladFork | Are there any Ace'd tooltip mods that use MobHealth3 to show the health value of a target? |
| 00:45.42 | SaladFork | It seems neither TinyTip nor CowTip do it |
| 00:48.16 | NightHawkTheSane | cowtip can,as itjust uses dogtag |
| 00:49.41 | Amadeo | I've been trying to make CowTip look exactly like TinyTip, but I suck too much |
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| 00:50.01 | SaladFork | Why not just use TinyTip? |
| 00:50.21 | rophy | because it's not Aced :( |
| 00:50.26 | rophy | I feel I have to say that |
| 00:50.27 | Amadeo | I am using TinyTip |
| 00:50.30 | CIA-14 | 03phanx * r47479 10GridStatusHealingReduced/GridStatusHealingReduced.toc: |
| 00:50.30 | CIA-14 | GridStatusHealingReduced: |
| 00:50.31 | CIA-14 | - Added some stuff to the TOC |
| 00:50.37 | Amadeo | but I like addons, so I play with many |
| 00:51.11 | ckknight | SaladFork: CowTip uses MobHealth3 |
| 00:51.16 | SaladFork | Does it now? |
| 00:51.21 | SaladFork | I'll check it out, thanks |
| 00:51.29 | ckknight | if you put [CurHP], it'll use MobHealth3 or MobHealth2 or MobInfo to figure it out |
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| 00:51.43 | NightHawkTheSane | rophy: lol :D |
| 00:51.47 | SaladFork | Fantastic, I'll give it a look |
| 00:52.37 | Amadeo | Fantastic...that sounds like something a Blood Elf would say |
| 00:52.49 | SaladFork | No, Belf would say "Marvelous" |
| 00:53.00 | SaladFork | Any idea what ExtractGas is? (Cartographer has a module or it) |
| 00:53.01 | SaladFork | for* |
| 00:53.27 | ckknight | We require more Vespene Gas. |
| 00:53.39 | JoshBorke | SaladFork: engineering stuff in Zangarmarsh and Netherstorm and that shadow place |
| 00:53.47 | JoshBorke | shadowmoon value |
| 00:53.51 | SaladFork | Ckk - amazingly, that's the first thought I had as well |
| 00:53.52 | JoshBorke | s/value/valley/ |
| 00:53.52 | SaladFork | kk Josh, ty |
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| 00:59.00 | CIA-14 | 03gamefaq * r47480 10BigWigs/BlackTemple/Souls.lua: BigWigs: ReliquaryOfSouls added deDE localization |
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| 01:05.19 | NightHawkTheSane | Yay for laughing skull going down like a corner whore! |
| 01:07.43 | kadrahil | so about to fight gruul.. are hunter pets affected by shatter? |
| 01:07.52 | kadrahil | i think i asked this before but i wanted to be sure |
| 01:09.43 | vithos | no |
| 01:09.48 | kadrahil | ok |
| 01:09.51 | vithos | well, yes |
| 01:09.56 | kadrahil | ... |
| 01:10.03 | vithos | they get stoned by it, but they don't take or give shatter damage |
| 01:10.08 | kadrahil | ahh, ok |
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| 01:11.02 | vithos | and it's probably still bugged where they stay stoned longer than players do, and will take cave in damage potentially |
| 01:12.10 | kadrahil | right |
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| 01:14.55 | hypetech | yo |
| 01:15.09 | hypetech | threat keeps resetting during the magtheridon encounter, what's up with that? |
| 01:18.24 | SaladFork | Woot |
| 01:18.33 | SaladFork | Just did a full cleaning of my addon folder |
| 01:18.36 | SaladFork | for addons I don't use anymore |
| 01:19.32 | SaladFork | 292 addons -> 213 |
| 01:19.38 | SaladFork | Oops, missed a few dependencies |
| 01:19.39 | Diao | lol |
| 01:19.42 | Diao | is that folders or addons |
| 01:21.37 | SaladFork | addons |
| 01:21.39 | SaladFork | I have 318 folders |
| 01:22.18 | hypetech | 292 addons? |
| 01:22.21 | SaladFork | Yep |
| 01:22.41 | hypetech | you just use everything in the SVN? |
| 01:22.45 | SaladFork | XD |
| 01:22.53 | SaladFork | no |
| 01:22.54 | SaladFork | lol |
| 01:23.44 | Diao | hm |
| 01:23.50 | Diao | i have less addons but more folders i think |
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| 01:24.10 | Diao | tons of modules |
| 01:25.18 | SaladFork | wooooohoo |
| 01:25.21 | SaladFork | I love cleaning up SV |
| 01:25.31 | SaladFork | Files Deleted: 277 Total Size: 1470.3 kB |
| 01:25.46 | SaladFork | (copy + paste from WAU) |
| 01:28.06 | Silowyi | ok |
| 01:28.10 | Silowyi | Novice Astromancers |
| 01:28.17 | Silowyi | what do we do with these? AoE? |
| 01:28.35 | SaladFork | gah |
| 01:28.39 | SaladFork | Loading time's still a good minute now |
| 01:29.33 | kebinusan | I cant stand all these ui compilations I see with huge blocks of info on the bottom of the screen... but no viewport |
| 01:32.15 | Silowyi | nvm |
| 01:32.19 | Silowyi | they don't do anything |
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| 01:33.16 | SaladFork | hmm |
| 01:33.28 | SaladFork | Is there any way to make the health bar appear INSIDE the tooltip for CowTip? |
| 01:36.22 | deltron | FFS |
| 01:36.31 | deltron | there's an exploit that crashes realms |
| 01:36.31 | deltron | nice |
| 01:36.55 | Amadeo | seriously? |
| 01:38.32 | deltron | yep |
| 01:38.37 | deltron | started on my realm |
| 01:38.52 | deltron | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=1272008984&sid=1 |
| 01:39.04 | kadrahil | on gruul is there any way to predict which way you get knocked back? |
| 01:40.06 | deltron | nope |
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| 01:41.20 | Meiun| | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:45.34 | Cryect | trying to crash the serversa re you! |
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| 02:03.39 | Yssaril | anyone know of a lib that makes making scrollbars/frames easy? |
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| 02:14.34 | kadrahil | gruul at 45% :( |
| 02:18.24 | TNSe | tank died? |
| 02:18.40 | TNSe | how many growths? |
| 02:20.06 | Diao | wow |
| 02:20.09 | Diao | that was remarkably gay |
| 02:20.15 | Diao | we down prince and right as we loot server crashes |
| 02:20.28 | Diao | and now the instance server is down :( |
| 02:20.51 | deltron | yep |
| 02:20.57 | deltron | it's a simple hack really |
| 02:38.55 | SaladFork | Hmm |
| 02:39.02 | SaladFork | Is there any way to put the health/mana bars inside the CowTip tooltip? |
| 02:39.58 | Diao | not yet |
| 02:40.02 | SaladFork | =( |
| 02:40.07 | Diao | or not ever, not sure which :P |
| 02:40.14 | SaladFork | lol |
| 02:40.15 | SaladFork | Would be nice |
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| 02:42.36 | SaladFork | Hmmm |
| 02:42.44 | SaladFork | Any way to color [Target] based on its class? |
| 02:43.03 | SaladFork | ClassColor seems to be based on the tooltip unit's color, not its target |
| 02:43.07 | SaladFork | And Target#ClassColor failed |
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| 02:48.15 | SaladFork | Nvm, got it |
| 02:48.20 | SaladFork | I have to use #mouseovertarget |
| 02:48.25 | SaladFork | As in |
| 02:48.28 | SaladFork | ClassColor#mouseovertarget |
| 02:48.29 | SaladFork | >.< |
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| 02:49.41 | BankZ | Is there anything like autobar for trinkets? |
| 02:50.29 | Diao | trinketmenu? |
| 02:50.35 | Diao | that's what i use |
| 02:51.00 | BankZ | seems good? |
| 02:51.26 | Diao | i love it |
| 02:51.27 | Diao | lol |
| 02:51.35 | Diao | trinket queueing |
| 02:51.38 | Diao | hotkeys for trinkets |
| 02:51.45 | Diao | place it wherever you want on your screen |
| 02:51.52 | Diao | mouseover to popup a menu of all the trinkets you hvae |
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| 03:02.56 | Antiarc | http://tachyonsix.com/gi.jpg |
| 03:02.58 | Antiarc | :D |
| 03:03.35 | deltron | oh wow nice |
| 03:03.54 | deltron | where's that in? |
| 03:03.59 | Antiarc | Game Informer, sept issue |
| 03:04.10 | deltron | grats :) |
| 03:04.28 | deltron | I wish those jerks weren't still destroying my server |
| 03:06.13 | SaladFork | Gah |
| 03:06.18 | SaladFork | Anyone here who's good with DogTags? |
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| 03:09.12 | ckknight | I am |
| 03:11.51 | SaladFork | Hehe, of course, =) |
| 03:12.03 | SaladFork | I'm playing around with showing the unit's target |
| 03:12.12 | SaladFork | I'd like it to show the target's name in the color of their class, and then their level in white |
| 03:12.24 | SaladFork | Unless the target ~IsFriend (IsEnemy), in which I want the whole thing to be orange |
| 03:12.41 | SaladFork | I have the first half done 100% |
| 03:12.47 | SaladFork | [Target:ClassColor#mouseovertarget] [Level#mouseovertarget:Paren] |
| 03:13.02 | SaladFork | But when I tried adding the second part, I either made the whole thing white, or had it change nothing at all |
| 03:14.36 | kadrahil | Cryect, are you there? |
| 03:15.55 | kadrahil | Cryect: impervious is leading a raid against UC right now, heh |
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| 03:17.29 | SaladFork | ckknight? |
| 03:18.18 | ckknight | oh, do [ClassColor] at the front |
| 03:18.56 | SaladFork | That doesn't accomplish either of my two goals, >.< |
| 03:19.00 | SaladFork | You sure you read what I said correctly? |
| 03:19.51 | CIA-14 | 03orionshock * r47481 10Tattle/ (29 files in 16 dirs): |
| 03:19.51 | CIA-14 | Tattle: |
| 03:19.51 | CIA-14 | - US Updates |
| 03:19.51 | CIA-14 | - update Dataminer with new site location |
| 03:19.51 | CIA-14 | - Remove US 14 and US 15 as there are only 13 Battlegroups in the US |
| 03:19.59 | orionshock | there it goes |
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| 03:20.56 | SaladFork | hmm |
| 03:20.58 | SaladFork | http://www.wowace.com/wiki/tattle |
| 03:20.58 | SaladFork | .wiki tattle |
| 03:21.04 | SaladFork | Interesting |
| 03:21.29 | orionshock | what about it is interesting? |
| 03:21.31 | CIA-14 | 03durcyn * r47482 10Incubator/ (Core.lua Locale-enUS.lua): Incubator: Add Mother Shahraz trash. Needs localization yet. |
| 03:21.38 | SaladFork | The lack of it. |
| 03:23.43 | kadrahil | Cryect: nevermind, that was a joke |
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| 03:25.51 | BankZ | what do you guys like better, recount or recap? |
| 03:26.07 | ulic | Assessment |
| 03:26.07 | SaladFork | <- Recount |
| 03:26.09 | ulic | :P |
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| 03:27.05 | ckknight | I use Violation |
| 03:27.11 | orionshock | Good ol' fasion damageMeters |
| 03:27.28 | orionshock | "DamageMeters-AL" that is |
| 03:28.13 | weab | good? |
| 03:28.40 | TNSe | WWS XD |
| 03:28.42 | orionshock | with and with out it ive never had any significant performance issues |
| 03:29.07 | weab | regardless of performance, it's not terribly accurate at what it does |
| 03:29.33 | orionshock | true the Meter aspect needs to get updated |
| 03:29.45 | orionshock | but for my uses it does the job |
| 03:29.54 | deltron | god |
| 03:30.02 | deltron | i hate these fucks that are crashing my server |
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| 03:30.32 | orionshock | and when you say accurate, you mean +/- 1000 difference between other addons of the same type? |
| 03:30.35 | weab | i prefer swstats if i need something that complex. violation if i just need a personal monitor |
| 03:31.16 | orionshock | bout the only thing i have found that DM dosn't track is VT/VE |
| 03:31.39 | orionshock | & i don't think it has the regexes for either of them |
| 03:31.49 | SaladFork | If you like WWS |
| 03:31.52 | SaladFork | Then you'll like Recount |
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| 03:34.37 | Wobwork | Old "switch to Linux" line: Stability, malware, open source |
| 03:34.37 | Wobwork | New "switch to Linux" line: "Ooh, spinning cube!" |
| 03:34.49 | Shirik | Wobwork: rofl |
| 03:35.10 | Wobwork | I really like Recount =) |
| 03:35.14 | NightHawkTheSane | oooh! spinning cube! |
| 03:35.30 | Wobwork | although I want a mod that can track the uptime of my Blinding Speed as compared to combat time |
| 03:35.50 | Wobwork | (PS, Boots of Blinding Speed were the best joke ever) |
| 03:43.43 | SaladFork | Hey ckknight - Any way to put health/mana bars inside the CowTip tooltip? |
| 03:44.33 | orionshock | anyone know how to make firefox not do a quick search on / and ' ? |
| 03:45.28 | weab | about:config if anywhere |
| 03:45.55 | weab | not sure why you'd want to though, they're pretty convenient |
| 03:48.09 | CIA-14 | 03ominous * r47483 10Cartographer_Data/ (Herbalism.lua Mining.lua Treasure.lua): Cartographer_Data: Weekly update |
| 03:50.24 | ckknight | SaladFork: nope |
| 03:50.28 | SaladFork | Damn. |
| 03:50.32 | ckknight | SaladFork: it'd cover text |
| 03:50.34 | ckknight | so that's not done |
| 03:51.17 | SaladFork | mmmk |
| 03:51.30 | SaladFork | You can't dynamically increase the height of the tooltip frame by the height of the health/power bars? |
| 03:51.48 | weab | has anyone noticed an issue with cartographer_mining where it won't add new nodes until you reladui() |
| 03:55.03 | orionshock | did u try reOpening the map? |
| 03:55.04 | Wobwork | I have problems with cart_mining in that it doesn't load up |
| 03:55.18 | NightHawkTheSane | weab: o |
| 03:55.22 | NightHawkTheSane | i've noticed that |
| 03:55.35 | NightHawkTheSane | happens with herbalism occasionally too |
| 03:55.48 | weab | never used to happen |
| 03:55.59 | orionshock | if it's showing up when you reloadui then the node is making it into the Database, might just be refresh lag |
| 03:56.02 | weab | but lately i have to reloadui before it'll add new nodes |
| 03:56.12 | weab | the node does not show up after |
| 03:56.20 | weab | it won't add it at all until a reloadui |
| 03:56.25 | NightHawkTheSane | ^^ |
| 03:56.37 | orionshock | after a refresh or reloadui? |
| 03:57.10 | weab | refresh? |
| 03:58.16 | weab | i haven't tested this extensively since it's so easy to fix |
| 03:58.18 | weab | but still annoying |
| 03:58.48 | weab | especially since it leaves me standing next to a mine reloading just waiting for some jackass to come steal it from me |
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| 04:05.45 | NightHawkTheSane | quick! altar of storms, pvp or pve? |
| 04:06.10 | Wobwork | eu/us? |
| 04:06.19 | Kaydeethree | us: pvp |
| 04:06.24 | NightHawkTheSane | danke |
| 04:06.52 | Wobwork | http://www.wowwiki.com/Realms_List |
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| 04:09.02 | NightHawkTheSane | pfft. you and you're wikis! |
| 04:09.23 | Wobwork | wikii? |
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| 04:09.40 | Wobwork | wik? |
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| 04:13.53 | NightHawkTheSane | i'll wik YOU |
| 04:19.57 | SaladFork | Wooot |
| 04:20.00 | SaladFork | Finally hit 375 enchanting |
| 04:20.00 | SaladFork | =) |
| 04:20.09 | SaladFork | Took 1 month, but I didn't pay a single gold (outside of the costs for the runed rods) |
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| 04:24.39 | TNSe | hehe |
| 04:24.46 | TNSe | did same while levelling :P |
| 04:26.04 | SaladFork | =P |
| 04:26.05 | SaladFork | Well |
| 04:26.09 | SaladFork | I got to 280 by myself |
| 04:26.13 | SaladFork | Just by DEing stuff on the way to 70 |
| 04:26.19 | SaladFork | But I didn't want to spend thousands of gold getting the rest |
| 04:26.26 | SaladFork | So I just sold enchants free w/ customer's mats |
| 04:26.30 | SaladFork | One month later (now), I'm at 375 |
| 04:26.31 | SaladFork | =D |
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| 04:34.46 | CIA-14 | 03phanx * r47484 10GridStatusHealingReduced/ (4 files): |
| 04:34.46 | CIA-14 | GridStatusHealingReduced: |
| 04:34.46 | CIA-14 | - Added koKR translations (thanks sayclub) |
| 04:35.08 | CIA-14 | 03yssaril * r47485 10YssGuildShop/ (6 files): |
| 04:35.08 | CIA-14 | YssGuildShop: |
| 04:35.08 | CIA-14 | - added DewDrop |
| 04:35.08 | CIA-14 | - changed the GUI around some removed list of names and put them all in a dropdown menu (this frees up some space to be used up again later) |
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| 04:39.19 | orionshock | Yssaril: this ur first wow addon? |
| 04:39.32 | Yssaril | first big one |
| 04:40.04 | orionshock | im no programer myself but it seems like ur getting to know what aceDB can do for you |
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| 04:40.54 | Yssaril | yep :) |
| 04:41.01 | Yssaril | its a beutifull thing |
| 04:41.51 | orionshock | there was one thing i say when looking over the SV file tho, your splicing tables of information , like the ItemID, share, & value ; why not just make it one table ? |
| 04:42.05 | orionshock | *say => saw |
| 04:42.14 | Shirik | memory usage |
| 04:42.34 | Shirik | foo = {1,2,3}; bar = {1,2,3} ; is much smaller than foo = {{1,1,}, {2,2}, {3,3}} |
| 04:42.41 | Shirik | especially as they get larger |
| 04:43.10 | Shirik | it's against OO practices and DB normalization, yes |
| 04:43.16 | Shirik | but it is probably justified |
| 04:45.22 | kadrahil | stormreaver needs to l2notdisconnect |
| 04:45.22 | orionshock | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:45.22 | kadrahil | and go offline for 5 seconds |
| 04:45.35 | orionshock | if not smaller ;; and easier to understand too |
| 04:45.45 | Shirik | I didn't look at the code, and that's not the same as what I said |
| 04:45.59 | Shirik | if that's what he's doing, then yes that's denormalized |
| 04:46.28 | Shirik | the latter should be smaller actually |
| 04:46.56 | orionshock | it make sense because it's the first time use of ace DB, thus getting-to-know-it-curve, thats why i made the sugestion :D |
| 04:47.06 | Yssaril | yea that is leftover code from when i "tryed something" gonna fix that someday |
| 04:48.06 | orionshock | in light of that idea i though about recodeing the addon from scratch while i was at work and was just dinking arround.. check out my Use page /wiki/User:orionshock , there are some good ideas there |
| 04:48.22 | orionshock | about DB structure that is |
| 04:49.04 | Yssaril | will look at it later am kinda pvping :P |
| 04:49.24 | orionshock | ofc :D |
| 04:50.35 | SaladFork | Alright, imma head to bed. Thanks again to all those who helped me with the silliest of problems earlier |
| 04:50.46 | SaladFork | And woohoo, new tooltip addon |
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| 04:57.31 | ckknight | power went out for a minute :-P |
| 04:57.49 | fireglow | ö |
| 04:58.22 | CIA-14 | 03orionshock 07orionshock * r47486 10Fubar_ReportAFK/Fubar_ReportAFK/ (FuBar_ReportAFK.toc ReportAFK.lua): |
| 04:58.22 | CIA-14 | Fubar_ReportAFK |
| 04:58.22 | CIA-14 | -Use AceDB instead of globals -- final commit till patch comes, then on into /trunk with this bloated addon |
| 04:58.22 | CIA-14 | -Add Simple.lua file -- it has the 2 core functions that most ppl will prolly use instead |
| 04:59.47 | CIA-14 | 03kaelten * r47487 10LibStub/LibStub.lua: |
| 04:59.47 | CIA-14 | LibStub: LS-8 |
| 04:59.47 | CIA-14 | - Added minor version number as a second return value to GetLibrary and NewLibrary |
| 05:00.00 | CIA-14 | 03orionshock 07orionshock * r47488 10Fubar_ReportAFK/Fubar_ReportAFK/SimpleReportAFK.lua: |
| 05:00.00 | CIA-14 | Fubar_ReportAFK |
| 05:00.00 | CIA-14 | -if ur gona add something, add it |
| 05:00.04 | orionshock | :D |
| 05:00.40 | Shirik | it's ok |
| 05:00.51 | dreamss2 | weeeeeeeeeeeeee servers |
| 05:00.57 | Shirik | Once I stared at my SVN client for 20 minutes trying to figure out why it kept coming back with "There's nothing to commit" |
| 05:01.09 | Shirik | until I realized I never added the files |
| 05:01.35 | orionshock | i did that last night for about 10 mins, "why the Fk dos it want to update "." ?? |
| 05:01.52 | orionshock | "and why the Fk won't it update?" |
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| 05:03.18 | orionshock | i then blew away the folder , redownloaded it, re added the externals and it worked :D |
| 05:04.41 | NightHawkTheSane | "Colonel, Major, you have to see this!" "... Right, you'll have to let us know where you are." |
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| 05:09.32 | NightHawkTheSane | "The celts were formidable warriors, perhaps their descendants would make valuable allies." "You've seen braveheart too often." |
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| 05:10.11 | ckknight | NightHawkTheSane: ? |
| 05:10.15 | NightHawkTheSane | sg-1 |
| 05:10.18 | ckknight | ah |
| 05:12.14 | art3mis | its that time of night where he quotes it a lot |
| 05:12.36 | NightHawkTheSane | pffft. i quote it all day long, bitch. |
| 05:12.38 | NightHawkTheSane | :) |
| 05:12.46 | NightHawkTheSane | well, on weekends, at least |
| 05:13.02 | sag_ich_nicht | in b4 wacko quote from window of opportunity |
| 05:13.05 | CIA-14 | 03kaelten * r47489 10LibStub/ (LibStub.lua LibStub.toc): |
| 05:13.05 | CIA-14 | LibStub: LS-8 |
| 05:13.05 | CIA-14 | - fixed oversite in minor return on NewLibrary |
| 05:13.29 | NightHawkTheSane | I think i'm past that episode |
| 05:13.30 | ckknight | oversight |
| 05:13.39 | Kaelten | bah |
| 05:13.45 | Kaelten | too late now |
| 05:13.53 | sag_ich_nicht | NightHawkTheSane: yeah, but the quote is still good :P |
| 05:13.54 | Nargiddley | and now i've got the urge to get all the sg-1 dvds |
| 05:13.57 | Nargiddley | again |
| 05:14.01 | NightHawkTheSane | Nargiddley: dooo iiiiiiiiit |
| 05:14.09 | NightHawkTheSane | sag_ich_nicht: indeed. |
| 05:14.11 | Kaelten | Nargiddley: I got em, its a good series |
| 05:14.16 | sag_ich_nicht | NightHawkTheSane rofl |
| 05:14.31 | Nargiddley | yeah i've watched through them once, but was borrowing them |
| 05:14.38 | sag_ich_nicht | okay afk, g2g2work |
| 05:15.03 | art3mis | i'd rather have all 8 seasons of red dwarf |
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| 05:15.07 | Nargiddley | got that |
| 05:15.24 | TNSe | got that :P |
| 05:15.26 | art3mis | i wish someone would accidently rip xvid and psot it all on usenet |
| 05:15.27 | NightHawkTheSane | i'd rather have both |
| 05:15.35 | art3mis | i keep forgetting to purchse it |
| 05:15.45 | art3mis | my wife's never seen it |
| 05:15.50 | Nargiddley | red dwarf is alot cheaper tho, 2 boxed sets 4 seasons each |
| 05:16.16 | NightHawkTheSane | art3mis: http://www.mininova.org/search/?search=red+dwarf ? :P |
| 05:16.20 | art3mis | i got gaspatcho soup the other day and part of me wanted to send it back to the kitchen and tell them it's cold and to heat it up |
| 05:16.29 | art3mis | torrents are the spawn of the debil |
| 05:16.46 | art3mis | besids i leech from usenet at 1.5MB |
| 05:16.49 | art3mis | yes big b |
| 05:17.05 | art3mis | would take me a whole hour for all 8 |
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| 05:19.16 | orionshock | thats not bad, i once had 384x384 DSL, now that is SLOW |
| 05:20.45 | art3mis | now i have the song in my head |
| 05:20.58 | art3mis | i want to lie shipwrecked and comatosed drinking fresh mango juice |
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| 05:28.26 | Sole | hello |
| 05:30.06 | NeoTron | so is it know why you lock up when you log in while in a raid (in combat at least)? |
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| 05:33.39 | NeoTron | ah nm seems like it's fixed in the latest x-perl |
| 05:37.05 | art3mis | haha netflix is hilarious |
| 05:37.14 | art3mis | Simpsons Gone Wild |
| 05:37.14 | art3mis | Because you enjoyed: |
| 05:37.14 | art3mis | The Simpsons: Season 7 (4-Disc Series) |
| 05:37.14 | art3mis | Monty Python: The Life of Python (2-Disc Series) |
| 05:37.14 | art3mis | Family Guy: Freakin' Sweet Collectio |
| 05:37.54 | ckknight | Simpsons Gone Wild? |
| 05:38.02 | art3mis | shrug |
| 05:38.15 | art3mis | just queued 1-8 of red dwarf |
| 05:38.17 | Killmore | ! |
| 05:38.23 | art3mis | thats much easier than relying on torrents |
| 05:38.30 | art3mis | and better quality |
| 05:38.42 | NightHawkTheSane | more expensive though |
| 05:38.45 | art3mis | my wife has also not seen black adder |
| 05:38.52 | art3mis | i feel ashamed for her |
| 05:39.12 | art3mis | her only exposure to the genius that is rowan atkinson is mr.bean |
| 05:39.23 | art3mis | and house is all she knows of hugh laurie ;P |
| 05:39.32 | art3mis | not really |
| 05:39.36 | art3mis | it's 15bucks a month |
| 05:39.48 | art3mis | i can turn those 12 discs areound easy for 15 bucks |
| 05:39.58 | art3mis | as opposed to the 40$/mn cable bill ;) |
| 05:40.08 | art3mis | we'll ignore the fact that i'd have cable anyways |
| 05:40.30 | art3mis | but the shipping center is like a 20 min drive from my house so it's almost next day service |
| 05:41.20 | deltron | http://img72.imageshack.us/img72/8204/11283wowscrnshot0719072fg4.jpg |
| 05:41.23 | deltron | lulz |
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| 05:44.01 | Sole | lol thats gotta be intentional |
| 05:46.07 | CIA-14 | 03ckknight * r47490 10LibStub/LibStub.lua: LibStub - fix a typo |
| 05:46.08 | Mecdemort | is there a way to get a table by its ID? like "table: 12654682" |
| 05:46.33 | ckknight | no, there's no way, save making your own cache |
| 05:46.43 | Mecdemort | ok |
| 05:48.16 | NightHawkTheSane | "I would prefer not to consume bovine lactose, at any temperature." |
| 05:49.33 | Mecdemort | qft |
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| 05:58.34 | CIA-14 | 03mecdemort * r47491 10TableInspector/ (Core.lua Libs/): TableInspector: - Misc. optimizations. |
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| 06:01.40 | TecnoBrat | whats the current Ace replacement for ItemRack? |
| 06:02.03 | art3mis | closetgnome? |
| 06:04.55 | Yssaril | orionshock: you there? |
| 06:09.28 | orionshock | yes |
| 06:09.38 | orionshock | sorry was smoking |
| 06:09.50 | orionshock | Yssaril -- ? |
| 06:09.52 | art3mis | http://us.eternityii.com/competition-rules/ |
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| 06:10.06 | Yssaril | lol |
| 06:10.19 | Yssaril | was thinking about what you wrote |
| 06:10.32 | orionshock | hehe... |
| 06:10.46 | Yssaril | there is no need to store the itemName since it can be extracted from the ItemID |
| 06:11.21 | Yssaril | also the isshared and teh value should not be attached to each persons or each banks actual items |
| 06:11.29 | orionshock | ya thats the differance betwen knowing what ur doing and not knowing what ur doing |
| 06:11.41 | Yssaril | since these values should be retained even if you dont have an item atm |
| 06:12.07 | orionshock | but isn't that what count is for? |
| 06:12.22 | orionshock | count of 0 means you don't have the item :D |
| 06:12.39 | Yssaril | yea but then you are waisting lots of space :P |
| 06:12.43 | orionshock | then again it's a "if-exists" call on top of it |
| 06:13.33 | Yssaril | also want to reduce the amount of statments i need to run thru to get to what i want |
| 06:14.28 | orionshock | true; you could also keep a seperate table of what you have vs. the settings for it ; that should be the same number of statements |
| 06:15.08 | Yssaril | the reason why i split isshared and values into two DB is cause the isshared is will never get sent to the guild while the values will be shared to teh guild as such if i combine them i have to seperate them out when i send the values anyways also i need to actually seperate them wich can cause lag depending on how much stuff you have |
| 06:16.31 | orionshock | <PROTECTED> |
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| 06:17.24 | Yssaril | also i chose not to seperate the guildbank/guildmember data cause due to the bank being determined by the rank it is easieset to just lookup the rank of the person and seperate out whether to display it under guild or bank |
| 06:17.52 | Yssaril | brb go to help wiht a quest |
| 06:17.54 | orionshock | looking up the rank vs caching it in the table.. depends on whats faster |
| 06:18.57 | vithos | whoever added the monochrome font option to prat, i <3 you |
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| 06:37.56 | orionshock | @ RogueShadowTCN -- http://www.wowbash.com/image-175.html |
| 06:37.58 | orionshock | way better |
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| 06:39.09 | RogueShadowTCN | orionshock: I'll concede. Better, not sure about way better. :) |
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| 06:41.56 | Somewhere | Anyone know a good mod rather then antagonist ? for an enemy castbar. |
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| 06:43.57 | Thezilch | quartz |
| 06:44.09 | CIA-14 | 03ckknight 07ckknight * r47492 10Joker/LibJoker-1.0/LibJoker-1.0.lua: |
| 06:44.09 | CIA-14 | LibJoker-1.0 - merge in the current LibStub (with a minor of 0, so it can be upgraded) to near the top of the file. |
| 06:44.09 | CIA-14 | - make LibJoker-1.0 registered with LibStub. |
| 06:44.09 | CIA-14 | - register all libraries with LibStub instead of internally with LibJoker-1.0. |
| 06:44.09 | CIA-14 | - all library functions will technically work with non-Joker libraries now. (:HasLibrary, :GetLibrary) |
| 06:44.12 | CIA-14 | - add unit test to check for LibStub support |
| 06:44.14 | CIA-14 | - :OnLibraryLoad is properly called on Joker libraries when a non-Joker library is loaded. |
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| 06:45.17 | ramoz | hm |
| 06:45.26 | orionshock | intra framework coperation? |
| 06:45.41 | ckknight | it's crazy, eh? |
| 06:45.50 | ckknight | though it actually works really nicely |
| 06:46.06 | ckknight | I should do an AceLibrary branch that uses LibStub. |
| 06:46.16 | ramoz | any of you guys have experience with improved CoE/CoS (Malediction talent) not getting the proper priority? |
| 06:46.22 | orionshock | isn't the point of creating a new framewok to make it better , not nessisarly backwards compatable? |
| 06:46.45 | orionshock | unless libStub is independant |
| 06:46.46 | ckknight | orionshock: Joker's not backwards compatible, it's just using the standardized LibStub interface |
| 06:46.51 | ckknight | it's independent |
| 06:46.56 | ckknight | not Ace, not Dongle, not anything |
| 06:47.00 | orionshock | in that case it makes more sence |
| 06:47.03 | ckknight | just a standard we agreed on |
| 06:47.54 | orionshock | & on a side note; Bliz really needs to add NeedsLib: to the metadata in toc files |
| 06:48.05 | orionshock | or a IncludesLib |
| 06:48.10 | ZealotOnAStick | ramoz: I have Malediction 3/3, and my CoS/CoE will always override anyone else's . . . |
| 06:48.19 | ckknight | *shrug* |
| 06:48.21 | ZealotOnAStick | but I've had issues with it getting pushed off on Teron Gorefiend. |
| 06:48.27 | ckknight | brb, my irc client went screwy |
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| 06:48.49 | ramoz | ZealotOnAStick: anyone elses CoS/CoE or any other dot? |
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| 06:49.06 | ZealotOnAStick | just as far as I can determine, entirely too many debuffs. |
| 06:49.14 | orionshock | ZealotOnAStick: ive found that with talented increased spells get over ridden by someone else after a certain time of urs has passed |
| 06:49.14 | ramoz | yea |
| 06:49.38 | ramoz | but if we do 'normal' CoE/CoS it never gets overriden |
| 06:49.40 | Thezilch | Curses aren't protected debuffs any longer. |
| 06:49.41 | CIA-14 | 03nickenyfiken * r47493 10FuBar_TrainerFu/TrainerFuLocals-zhTW.lua: FuBar_TrainerFu: zhTW localization (I hope copy/paste works *shrug*). Thanks avai. |
| 06:49.48 | ramoz | seems like it has higher priority |
| 06:50.18 | orionshock | stat reduceing spells usualy are protected / unique |
| 06:50.53 | ramoz | Thezilch: how come my CoE never falls of, but the locks with malediction looses it all the time |
| 06:52.14 | Nickenyfiken | Are there any documentation on LibStub anywhere? |
| 06:52.20 | ckknight | Nickenyfiken: in the code itself |
| 06:52.22 | Thezilch | Beats me, but we see curses, demo, etc drop a lot when we have too many dot classes in a raid. |
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| 06:52.31 | Nickenyfiken | i see |
| 06:52.54 | ckknight | there's only 3 methods to use :-P |
| 06:53.01 | orionshock | there is 40 slots thats not very plausable with 10 ppl |
| 06:53.02 | ckknight | :GetLibrary, :NewLibrary, :IterateLibraries |
| 06:53.05 | ckknight | it's pretty minimalistic |
| 06:53.19 | Thezilch | oh no, not in 10 mans :p |
| 06:53.23 | Thezilch | 25 man |
| 06:53.46 | Nickenyfiken | hehe |
| 06:53.49 | orionshock | CoA,Coru,Imo, x 10 = 30 |
| 06:53.55 | orionshock | ... ? |
| 06:54.03 | CIA-14 | 03ckknight 07LibStub * r47494 10AceLibrary/: AceLibrary - creating LibStub branch (mostly to see if I can do it) |
| 06:54.13 | Nickenyfiken | ckknight: and thats it? |
| 06:54.18 | ckknight | yes, Nickenyfiken |
| 06:55.24 | ckknight | it's just a way to handle inter-framework libraries, really |
| 06:58.39 | Arrowmaster | why did you add the '(mostly to see if I can do it)' to the commit message? |
| 06:58.56 | Arrowmaster | thats kinda implied whenever you create a new directory on the svn |
| 06:59.42 | ckknight | I suppose |
| 06:59.50 | ckknight | but LibStub's not frozen yet |
| 06:59.56 | ckknight | so this is mostly an intellectual exercise |
| 07:01.45 | orionshock | <PROTECTED> |
| 07:02.27 | ckknight | is that you? |
| 07:02.33 | orionshock | yes :D |
| 07:02.40 | ckknight | lern2spell |
| 07:02.44 | ckknight | we use big people words here |
| 07:03.00 | ckknight | like "you" and "people" |
| 07:03.03 | orionshock | tried that back in highschool , didn't work too well |
| 07:03.05 | ckknight | :-P |
| 07:03.18 | ramoz | wus wrong with pitbull? :( |
| 07:04.24 | orionshock | nothing, just got a Fkload of configuration options that you usually have to go though to get it to act just right.. and it's perfect for people like me that like to have lots of options. |
| 07:04.35 | Arrowmaster | ive heard the raid frames might preformance issues, but since ckk still cant join AV i doubt he'll ever debug that one on his own if it does exist |
| 07:05.11 | ckknight | hey, I dinged lvl 50 |
| 07:05.14 | ckknight | I'm in WPL now |
| 07:05.17 | Arrowmaster | wow |
| 07:05.18 | ckknight | grinding |
| 07:05.21 | Nickenyfiken | Hmm I haven't used anything but Grid in raids last year or so |
| 07:05.26 | Arrowmaster | still need 1 more level to join AV |
| 07:05.28 | ckknight | by I dinged lvl 50, I mean I dinged an hour ago |
| 07:05.50 | Nickenyfiken | gratz ckknight |
| 07:06.10 | ckknight | :-) |
| 07:06.25 | Nickenyfiken | I have to level my warlock to 50 so i can have him learn 375 alchemy |
| 07:07.03 | TNSe | :P |
| 07:07.22 | Nickenyfiken | Is AV level 51-60? or 50-60? |
| 07:07.57 | ckknight | 51-60 |
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| 07:09.07 | Arrowmaster | perty sure its 51-60, it was 51-60 i think back when everything started at 1 and ended at 0 but i swear for atleast one patch when they changed it to 0 through 9 that av was 50-60 for a while |
| 07:09.32 | Nickenyfiken | AB is 50-59 and 60-60 right? |
| 07:09.41 | Arrowmaster | used to be |
| 07:09.41 | Nickenyfiken | Or something like that |
| 07:09.55 | Arrowmaster | 50-59, 60-69, 70-70 now |
| 07:10.00 | Arrowmaster | i think |
| 07:10.03 | Nickenyfiken | Yeah ofcourse |
| 07:11.10 | ckknight | really? |
| 07:11.18 | Nickenyfiken | Will someone finish my report please |
| 07:11.52 | Arrowmaster | yeah i think non expansion owners get shafted on battlegrounds except for av |
| 07:12.03 | Arrowmaster | but who the hell would play wow without the expansion |
| 07:12.11 | CIA-14 | 03ckknight 07ckknight * r47495 10Joker/LibJoker-1.0/LibJoker-1.0.lua: LibJoker-1.0 - bugfix (change global self to Joker) |
| 07:13.03 | Nickenyfiken | I know one that did until a couple of weeks ago |
| 07:13.29 | Nickenyfiken | But that's because her char was only level 55 or so |
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| 07:14.14 | Yssaril | orionshock: btw guild info gets cached when GuildRoster() is called |
| 07:14.29 | orionshock | that works |
| 07:14.47 | Yssaril | so i dont have to cache it again in the addon :) |
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| 07:15.15 | Yssaril | the modular appreach i still dont know about |
| 07:15.39 | Yssaril | since at least in my mind if you have modules you should be able to add/remove them |
| 07:15.49 | orionshock | well we're not talking bout LoD modules |
| 07:16.13 | orionshock | ya, some ppl might not care what others in the guild have and just want to know bout Just the guild bank |
| 07:16.14 | Yssaril | hehe |
| 07:16.38 | Yssaril | yea then they jsut dont have to click the button :P |
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| 07:17.14 | orionshock | true, and those that are super uptight about stuff of that sort can just live with it |
| 07:17.21 | Yssaril | but one thing is for sure the comm system could use a bit of work |
| 07:17.52 | Yssaril | right now i just spam evertyhing i got even if its already been shared with everyone 100 of times |
| 07:17.53 | orionshock | ya ive got the ideas and logic worked out , implementation is the btch side, and i know less about that than programing in general :D |
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| 07:18.54 | CIA-14 | 03deccard * r47496 10MiniChat/Core.lua: |
| 07:18.54 | CIA-14 | MiniChat: |
| 07:18.54 | CIA-14 | - fix for positions of unlocked buttons |
| 07:19.31 | orionshock | but i do know one thing; if u use a date time stamp use YYYYMMDD2400 format, that way anything on a later date is always a bigger number and you can do version checking that way |
| 07:20.20 | Yssaril | hehe was thinking a while back of broadcasting a "ping" to wich everyone responds with their info then after idk 5 sec the addon would chose the fastest reply with the newest version to send that data |
| 07:20.40 | orionshock | well thats the logic , but try doing that |
| 07:20.48 | Nickenyfiken | Google Gears |
| 07:20.50 | Nickenyfiken | hmm hmm |
| 07:20.54 | Yssaril | the ping would be broadcast the reply and request would be whisper and then send would be brodcast again |
| 07:21.06 | orionshock | only way i figured it would work is to add players to a data table and sort alphabeticly |
| 07:21.18 | Yssaril | btw my timestamp already uses YYYYDDD246060 |
| 07:21.43 | orionshock | no month? |
| 07:21.47 | Yssaril | i'll come up with something |
| 07:21.58 | Yssaril | nope i use day of year its shorter than mmdd |
| 07:22.08 | ckknight | more confusing, though |
| 07:22.21 | orionshock | ~~ only way i figured it would work is to add players to a data table and sort alphabeticly -- and the person at the top of the list get to broadcast |
| 07:22.22 | purl | that's too long, orionshock |
| 07:22.47 | Yssaril | yea but its a very long string of numbers and not realy ment to be looked at |
| 07:22.48 | orionshock | purl - to understand or table? - it's a simple compare tho |
| 07:23.02 | ckknight | orionshock: purl's a bot |
| 07:23.09 | orionshock | ? |
| 07:23.14 | ckknight | purl sucks |
| 07:23.14 | purl | only if you ask nicely and pay well. |
| 07:23.15 | orionshock | >.> |
| 07:23.27 | ckknight | ~whaleslap orionshock |
| 07:23.27 | purl | ACTION beats orionshock upside and over the head with a freakishly huge killer whale named Hugh |
| 07:24.28 | orionshock | Yssaril: YYYYDD346060 dosn't generate a truly unique number in sequence |
| 07:24.41 | orionshock | *246060 |
| 07:24.55 | ckknight | orionshock: DDD where DDD = [001, 366] |
| 07:24.56 | Yssaril | why not i am using 365days |
| 07:25.06 | orionshock | well didn't see that |
| 07:25.08 | Yssaril | what ckknight said :P |
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| 07:26.04 | orionshock | im sure it's academic at this point but wouldn't YYYYMMDD2400 be easier to get from the client ? |
| 07:26.11 | pb_ee1 | v |
| 07:26.18 | pb_ee1 | Monring * |
| 07:26.19 | Yssaril | nope |
| 07:26.25 | Yssaril | same call basically |
| 07:27.31 | Yssaril | also made it easier to code in the timezones cause the timestamp is server date based not client eventhough i am using client info :P |
| 07:28.19 | Yssaril | since then i wouldnt have to muck around with changing the month and the day if something wierd happens now i jsut have to mess with the day |
| 07:28.38 | orionshock | that works, |
| 07:29.31 | Yssaril | that way if one person changes the permission set on one side of the globe the otherperson that can change them wont get locked out of changing them for up to 24hours |
| 07:29.51 | orionshock | i also had this strange idea of useing oneStorage for inventory management.... but i don't think it'll offer much |
| 07:31.09 | Yssaril | might be a bit overkill i dont need that much info about items :) |
| 07:31.13 | orionshock | <PROTECTED> |
| 07:31.28 | orionshock | very true |
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| 07:32.27 | Yssaril | basically my 2 prioritys are to make it work and to keep it lagfree (if there is lag put it where noone will notice) |
| 07:32.28 | orionshock | oh yea, someone mentioned also getting Unique id and suffix id from the items as they are now used to determine the specific details of an item |
| 07:33.02 | Yssaril | not really needed for my purposes |
| 07:33.54 | orionshock | well sorta, the suffix and unique id's are used to determine the "of the" information |
| 07:34.31 | orionshock | wowwiki.com ftw |
| 07:34.38 | Yssaril | the suffix stores that not the unique id |
| 07:34.57 | orionshock | they both do according to the wiki |
| 07:35.37 | Yssaril | and i quote "UniqueIds don't appear to hold any information in and of themselves, and are not consistant in any way across servers like enchantIds and secondaryIds. This number appears to only be a link to data held on the server or client that returns information about who the item was created by or for." |
| 07:35.55 | Yssaril | so that stuff i could really care less about |
| 07:36.09 | Yssaril | though the suffix i may have to look into |
| 07:36.55 | orionshock | same page 2 paragraphs down "Post 2.0, a new system of stats bonuses has been implemented via the ItemRandomSuffix table. If the suffixId is negative, it indicates that the suffix of the item is instead one of the new RandomSuffixes, and that the uniqueId will contain an embedded suffixFactor, which can be extracted via the following algorithm." |
| 07:37.03 | Yssaril | btw did you check out the latest build i changed some GUI things around |
| 07:38.03 | orionshock | tho that page appears to hold no relavant information about what the unique id really is used for so .. nevermind bout that |
| 07:38.35 | Yssaril | hmmmm will have to do some testing (aka farm stuff till i get something to drop with a random suffix and see what happens in the addon) |
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| 07:40.16 | orionshock | ok -- unique id's hold a math'ed out suffixFactor that is multiplied by a fixed number to produce the Exact item; makes a little bit more sense |
| 07:40.29 | CIA-14 | 03ckknight 07LibStub * r47497 10AceLibrary/AceLibrary.lua: |
| 07:40.29 | CIA-14 | AceLibrary (LibStub branch) - merge in the current LibStub (with a minor of 0, so it can be upgraded) to near the top of the file. |
| 07:40.29 | CIA-14 | - make AceLibrary registered with LibStub. |
| 07:40.29 | CIA-14 | - register all libraries with LibStub instead of internally with AceLibrary. |
| 07:40.29 | CIA-14 | - all library functions will technically work with non-Ace libraries now. (:HasInstance, :GetInstance) |
| 07:40.33 | CIA-14 | - externalFunc is properly called on Ace libraries when a non-Ace library is loaded. |
| 07:40.50 | orionshock | but worrying bout that is like saying that 1000 points difference between what damagemeters says and what SWStats says maters :D |
| 07:40.58 | ckknight | okay, so technically, AceLibrary:GetInstance("LibJoker-1.0"):GetLibrary("AceLibrary") == AceLibrary |
| 07:41.01 | ckknight | :-P |
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| 07:41.25 | Yssaril | check this out and tell me if its and improvement orionshock http://img178.imageshack.us/img178/1350/guichangeyi5.jpg |
| 07:41.35 | CIA-14 | 03durcyn * r47498 10BigBrother/ (embeds.xml libs/): BigBrother: maybe it would be a good idea to actually add AceLocale to externals/embeds if you're going to, you know, use it. |
| 07:42.09 | orionshock | tbh, the only number that truly matters is total, but look alot better |
| 07:42.27 | orionshock | numbers on screen make ppl go crosseyed |
| 07:42.52 | [Ammo] | it looks shit |
| 07:42.58 | [Ammo] | you need to align the numbers on the left or the right |
| 07:43.00 | Yssaril | i like all three but am changing so that you can display it however you want that style or simply the total |
| 07:43.02 | [Ammo] | right now you have to strain to see em |
| 07:43.13 | [Ammo] | proper columns |
| 07:43.20 | orionshock | <PROTECTED> |
| 07:43.38 | Yssaril | hehe |
| 07:44.02 | orionshock | let the players figure out WHERE it is, and let the addon tell them THAT they have it, |
| 07:44.04 | Yssaril | will probably put the numbers infront of the item |
| 07:45.12 | Yssaril | alright i need to call it a night need to get up in 4 hours |
| 07:45.21 | orionshock | nn |
| 07:45.31 | Yssaril | thanks for the feedback :) |
| 07:45.38 | orionshock | ... hehe .. 110mb addon useage >.> |
| 07:45.56 | [Ammo] | wow |
| 07:46.02 | [Ammo] | you must have some heavy data collection going on |
| 07:46.26 | Yssaril | how is that even possible? |
| 07:47.04 | orionshock | <PROTECTED> |
| 07:47.07 | [Ammo] | while true do i = i + 1; _g["t"..i] = {} end |
| 07:47.08 | [Ammo] | :p |
| 07:48.18 | orionshock | a GarbageCollect pulls me down to 93mb |
| 07:49.22 | orionshock | LMAO, let me reload my UI and try that ammo, see just how far my game goes before crashing |
| 07:51.35 | CIA-14 | 03ammo * r47499 10LibStub/LibStub.lua: |
| 07:51.35 | CIA-14 | LibStub: LS |
| 07:51.35 | CIA-14 | - Fix spaces -> tabs (again) |
| 07:52.38 | [Ammo] | you might want to _G instead of _g |
| 07:52.48 | [Ammo] | oh and this just disconnects you :P |
| 07:53.33 | orionshock | ? |
| 07:53.38 | orionshock | really |
| 07:53.49 | [Ammo] | because you lock the UI |
| 07:53.54 | [Ammo] | so you'll disconnect after nonresponse timeout |
| 07:54.16 | orionshock | whats the itteration speed?, 100 per second? |
| 07:54.33 | orionshock | or dependant on computer? |
| 07:56.36 | CIA-14 | 03ckknight * r47500 10LibStub/tests/ (. test.lua): |
| 07:56.36 | CIA-14 | LibStub - add tests folder with a sample test file. |
| 07:56.36 | CIA-14 | - there should be one test per file. |
| 07:56.36 | CIA-14 | - tests are meant to be run out of WoW, not in it. |
| 07:56.38 | orionshock | "/run while true do i = i + 1; _G["t"..i] = {} en...":1: attempt to perform arithmetic on global 'i' (a nil value) |
| 07:57.25 | [Ammo] | just do i = 0 |
| 07:57.27 | [Ammo] | before the while |
| 07:57.29 | [Ammo] | i = 0; |
| 07:57.43 | orionshock | oh wow that does lock ur UI |
| 07:57.54 | orionshock | ... ok im a beliver |
| 07:57.59 | ckknight | orionshock: while true do end |
| 07:58.03 | ckknight | that locks your UI. |
| 07:58.08 | [Ammo] | he's going for mem growth |
| 07:58.10 | ckknight | oh |
| 07:58.13 | [Ammo] | but that might require an onupdate |
| 07:58.18 | ckknight | yea, requires onupdate |
| 07:58.23 | ckknight | here you go: |
| 07:58.23 | orionshock | ya in game it would |
| 07:58.30 | orionshock | lets see what task manager says |
| 07:58.43 | ckknight | CreateFrame("Frame"):SetScript("OnUpdate", function() local _ = {} end) |
| 07:58.48 | ckknight | and change it to however you want |
| 07:59.05 | orionshock | currently at 753,172 K |
| 07:59.17 | orionshock | growing at about 500K per second |
| 08:00.14 | orionshock | 863,373 K =~ 800 MB |
| 08:01.00 | ckknight | um, srsly? |
| 08:01.06 | orionshock | um ya |
| 08:01.06 | ckknight | it didn't GC? |
| 08:01.12 | ckknight | did you stop the garbage collector? |
| 08:01.15 | orionshock | no - UI locked indefinatly |
| 08:01.22 | orionshock | i had to crash the program |
| 08:01.54 | Nickenyfiken | hehehe |
| 08:02.14 | orionshock | with a frame script maybe it would GC as it has to wait for an OnUpdate event to occur |
| 08:02.49 | orionshock | so le me check |
| 08:03.00 | orionshock | ... got nothing at all better to do atm :D |
| 08:03.37 | CIA-14 | 03ckknight * r47501 10LibStub/tests/test.lua: LibStub - make test more comprehensive, test creation, updating. |
| 08:03.57 | orionshock | wow starting at about 411,200 K |
| 08:04.59 | Nargiddley | 100 tables per frame at 155 fps i'm getting 500k/s increasing |
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| 08:05.48 | Nargiddley | going from 21ish to 28 then gcing |
| 08:05.58 | orionshock | what did u use |
| 08:06.53 | Mech0z | Any ace2 closetgnome alternatives? |
| 08:07.18 | Nargiddley | /script CreateFrame("Frame"):SetScript("OnUpdate", function() for i = 1,100 do local _ = {} end end) |
| 08:08.05 | [Ammo] | Mech0z: closetgnome is perfectly fine |
| 08:08.19 | orionshock | mine chugs away at 88kb /sec |
| 08:08.38 | Nargiddley | what fps orionshock ? |
| 08:08.44 | CIA-14 | 03ckknight * r47502 10LibStub/tests/test2.lua: LibStub - add another test which checks whether :GetLibrary works, whether it errors if the library doesn't exist, and whether :IterateLibraries works properly. |
| 08:08.49 | Wobin | do we have a procwatch addon? |
| 08:08.54 | orionshock | bout 26 FPS |
| 08:09.05 | orionshock | mine goes till bou 15mb and then GC's |
| 08:09.10 | Nargiddley | i'm running about 120fps |
| 08:09.14 | Mech0z | ammo it sometimes locks up and dont wanna hide its menu, and it is "beta" and I dont like all those mods making messeages in my chatwindow |
| 08:09.28 | Mech0z | I know I can get a mod to remove that, but I dont want mods to counter mods |
| 08:09.31 | [Ammo] | 1. the beta message can be removed |
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| 08:09.40 | [Ammo] | with one simple script line |
| 08:09.42 | [Ammo] | and it'll never be back |
| 08:09.46 | [Ammo] | it's explained in the message as well |
| 08:09.46 | orionshock | well looking at the ground i get 50 FPS |
| 08:09.48 | Mech0z | yes but it will come each time I run wowaceupdater I guess |
| 08:09.52 | [Ammo] | no |
| 08:10.05 | [Ammo] | it stores the 'sod off with your message' var in the saved variables |
| 08:10.47 | Gngsk | [Ammo], is there a reason witchunt uses one + for buff gain but two - for buff loss? |
| 08:10.59 | orionshock | and about 190kb/sec increese looking at the ground & round 15.5 before it GC;'s |
| 08:11.29 | [Ammo] | Gngsk: -- means forcefully dispelled |
| 08:11.33 | [Ammo] | - means regular fading |
| 08:11.45 | orionshock | afk |
| 08:11.54 | Gngsk | ok, thanks for the info |
| 08:11.58 | orionshock | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:12.27 | orionshock | dual monitors makes you crazy, you forget where ur coursor is |
| 08:12.30 | mitch0-zZ | orion: on irc? try /away :) |
| 08:12.48 | Nargiddley | ok now running through a gc cycle every second or so heh |
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| 08:13.22 | CIA-14 | 03ckknight * r47503 10LibStub/tests/test.lua: LibStub (test) - check if minor versions that are strings that include numbers go through properly. |
| 08:13.50 | CIA-14 | 03phanx * r47504 10GridStatusHealingReduced/ (4 files): |
| 08:13.50 | CIA-14 | GridStatusHealingReduced: |
| 08:13.50 | CIA-14 | - Added Hex of Weakness |
| 08:13.50 | CIA-14 | - Added partial deDE translations (thanks Elbereth) |
| 08:15.09 | CIA-14 | 03ckknight * r47505 10LibStub/tests/test3.lua: LibStub - add test to try to break :NewLibrary and :GetLibrary by passing in garbage data. |
| 08:19.06 | Nargiddley | wonder if there is a limit on script memory or if i'll just crash |
| 08:19.32 | ckknight | *shrug* |
| 08:19.33 | ckknight | not sure |
| 08:19.42 | Nargiddley | 450mb and climbing |
| 08:20.19 | Nargiddley | at 3 fps down from 80 |
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| 08:20.48 | ckknight | lol |
| 08:21.13 | Nargiddley | i think its doing something like 2000 garbage tables + 1000 tables into _G a frame |
| 08:21.54 | Nargiddley | 3.6mil tables in _g so far heh |
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| 08:23.09 | Nargiddley | and there it goes, somewhere over 500mb |
| 08:23.27 | Nargiddley | CreateFrame("Frame"):SetScript("OnUpdate", function() local _ = {} end) |
| 08:23.31 | nevcairiel | it'll prolly start to swap at some point, and become so slow that you could even say it died :P |
| 08:23.44 | Nargiddley | bah synergy isnt copying things to this properly |
| 08:23.48 | Nargiddley | nah hard crash |
| 08:24.02 | Nargiddley | Not enough storage is available to process this command |
| 08:24.11 | Grum | i wish you could make a copy of a table efficiently! =D |
| 08:24.56 | ckknight | how do you mean? |
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| 08:27.00 | Nargiddley | UI taking up 570mb at the time it crashed heh |
| 08:27.54 | Grum | ckknight: i wanted to do something like: |
| 08:28.52 | Grum | table_copy = copy_of_table(t); if flag then table.insert(table_copy, table_copy[1]) end |
| 08:29.19 | Grum | but 'copy_of_table' would have to be a stupid 'unpack' or 'for x in pairs(t)' |
| 08:30.11 | Grum | table_copy = { unpack(t) } .. but it seems rather stupid :) |
| 08:35.38 | CIA-14 | 03ckknight * r47506 10LibStub/tests/ (test.lua test2.lua): LibStub (tests) - add comments to test.lua and test2.lua, also change some =='s into rawequal's. |
| 08:37.17 | ckknight | Grum: local function copyTable(t) local result = {} for k,v in pairs(t) do result[k] = v end; return result end |
| 08:37.28 | ckknight | unless you _know_ it's a list |
| 08:37.35 | ckknight | which you can use ipairs |
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| 08:37.39 | ckknight | or do the { unpack(t) } hack |
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| 08:50.53 | cncfanatics | g'morning |
| 08:51.52 | ckknight | hey cncfanatics |
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| 08:56.42 | orionshock | when starcraft2 comming out? |
| 08:56.51 | ckknight | when it's done |
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| 08:57.40 | orionshock | better be soon or my wow account is either gona get can'ed or im xfering to oceanic realm |
| 08:58.04 | nevcairiel | define soon for you |
| 08:58.13 | orionshock | few days |
| 08:58.22 | Diao | gl with that |
| 08:58.23 | nevcairiel | then bye bye |
| 08:58.25 | Diao | they aren't even in beta yet :P |
| 08:58.33 | orionshock | if ur gona wish you might as well make it unreasonable |
| 08:59.47 | cncfanatics | hmmmz |
| 09:00.22 | cncfanatics | "^%d+$" as pattern refuses to match 0.3 for example, how to match it too ? |
| 09:01.37 | Diao | begins with 1 or more digits |
| 09:01.38 | Diao | what's the $? |
| 09:01.45 | Nargiddley | end of string |
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| 09:02.15 | nevcairiel | %d only matches digits, not . |
| 09:02.17 | Diao | oh |
| 09:02.24 | Nargiddley | is there a capture in there or is it just to validate ? |
| 09:02.25 | Diao | yeah so that wouldn't work since there's a nondigit :P |
| 09:02.45 | cncfanatics | its to validate |
| 09:02.46 | Thrae | [%d%.] ftw |
| 09:02.55 | cncfanatics | then 0.0.5.3 would match too |
| 09:02.57 | cncfanatics | not what I want |
| 09:03.11 | Arrowmaster | "%d*%.?%d+$" |
| 09:03.11 | Nargiddley | ^%d+(%.%d+)?$ |
| 09:03.21 | Nargiddley | or that |
| 09:03.28 | cncfanatics | I'll probably use Arrowmaster's |
| 09:03.54 | Nargiddley | yeah, that'll get .3 where mine wont |
| 09:04.01 | Arrowmaster | i left out the ^ |
| 09:04.12 | Arrowmaster | woops |
| 09:05.04 | cncfanatics | tonumber(".3"); works ? |
| 09:05.19 | Arrowmaster | it should |
| 09:05.29 | Nargiddley | yep |
| 09:05.58 | Arrowmaster | only problem with that is in some locals , is used instead of . |
| 09:06.11 | Arrowmaster | i dont remember if lua works that way or not |
| 09:06.42 | cncfanatics | lemme try |
| 09:07.15 | Arrowmaster | for some reason im wanting to think lua or atleast wow only works properly with . and not , nomatter what local your in |
| 09:07.33 | ckknight | cncfanatics: "^%d*%.?%d+$" |
| 09:07.47 | cncfanatics | ckknight, same one as Arrowmaster, but thanks :) |
| 09:07.57 | ckknight | oh, lol |
| 09:07.58 | Arrowmaster | =P |
| 09:09.30 | Arrowmaster | i wonder what all %p matches |
| 09:11.27 | Diao | ,.';: i assume |
| 09:12.47 | cncfanatics | hum, why is my scheduled event not triggering :p |
| 09:15.25 | cncfanatics | EventManager:ScheduleRepeatingEvent("FB2_UPDATE" , 0.3); is correct isnt it ? |
| 09:16.47 | ckknight | looks right |
| 09:17.07 | ckknight | are you assuming it fires the method :FB2_UPDATE? |
| 09:17.16 | ckknight | cause that fires the event |
| 09:17.31 | cncfanatics | I know |
| 09:17.35 | cncfanatics | I just did this: |
| 09:17.42 | cncfanatics | <PROTECTED> |
| 09:17.50 | cncfanatics | that should start to spam my chatbox, didnt |
| 09:18.02 | cncfanatics | oh lol, found error |
| 09:18.09 | cncfanatics | Its called in EventManager:OnInitalize() |
| 09:18.14 | cncfanatics | OnInitialize ftl |
| 09:18.16 | cncfanatics | forgot a letter |
| 09:18.36 | Sole_ | you get a cookie skip! |
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| 09:32.45 | cncfanatics | hmmm, now, lets see if my text sub system works |
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| 09:35.41 | cncfanatics | omg |
| 09:35.44 | cncfanatics | I hardcoded everything |
| 09:35.46 | cncfanatics | BUT IT WORKS |
| 09:35.59 | orionshock | hardcoded or drycoded? |
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| 09:36.53 | cncfanatics | drycoded |
| 09:37.06 | cncfanatics | after fixing the usual syntax errors it worked :) |
| 09:37.16 | Grum | so it didn't work? |
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| 09:38.04 | cncfanatics | it did, syntax errors dont count :) |
| 09:38.13 | Grum | oh btw *\o/* - Cartographer_Routes can now draw the routes on the minimap but it's not .. really efficient - i dont have any checks to see if it needs to redraw yet =D |
| 09:38.31 | Grum | well my bugs are syntaxerrors - after i add/change more syntax it works! ;D |
| 09:39.54 | Grum | oh .. only on square minimaps as of now :( |
| 09:42.05 | pb_ee1 | Does anyone know what is the arg11 in the Blizzard MessageEventHandler function? |
| 09:42.17 | nevcairiel | depends on the event |
| 09:42.19 | nevcairiel | i guess |
| 09:42.52 | pb_ee1 | Doesn't seem to. |
| 09:43.11 | pb_ee1 | Frame 1: a number that increase each time a message is printed, starting from 0 |
| 09:43.19 | pb_ee1 | Frame 2: same, but starting from 2000 |
| 09:43.21 | pb_ee1 | ... |
| 09:43.22 | cncfanatics | how to get the count remaining on a spell ? |
| 09:43.27 | cncfanatics | like blizzard does on its own buttons |
| 09:44.00 | pb_ee1 | If I hook the function and I put "0" for this arg, it still work however |
| 09:44.24 | cncfanatics | pb_ee1, aint it the time it was sent at ? |
| 09:44.29 | pb_ee1 | Nope |
| 09:44.29 | cncfanatics | !api GetTime |
| 09:44.32 | ThraeBot | cncfanatics: seconds = GetTime(); -- http://www.wowwiki.com/API_GetTime |
| 09:44.44 | cncfanatics | sounds like a gettime to me |
| 09:44.46 | pb_ee1 | If it was the case, it couldn't be < 100 |
| 09:45.04 | cncfanatics | GetTime is the seconds since u logged in |
| 09:45.25 | pb_ee1 | GetTime couldn't be enough precise for handling messages. |
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| 09:45.31 | cncfanatics | oh why not ? |
| 09:45.33 | pb_ee1 | enough <-> precise |
| 09:45.46 | cncfanatics | 3 digits after the comma |
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| 09:45.52 | pb_ee1 | Ho, 3? |
| 09:45.54 | cncfanatics | so its quite precise really |
| 09:45.58 | pb_ee1 | Then it's not that :p |
| 09:46.05 | pb_ee1 | The number in arg11 is an integer |
| 09:47.51 | pb_ee1 | http://ace.pastey.net/72792 |
| 09:50.36 | pb_ee1 | I don't understand how it is used |
| 09:50.45 | Diao | wtb gettime precision in combat log timestamps :( |
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| 09:51.02 | pb_ee1 | Seems it's something like |Hplayer:Someone:arg11|h |
| 09:51.11 | pb_ee1 | but wtf is this arg11? |
| 09:51.39 | pb_ee1 | |Hplayer:Someone:arg11|hSomeone|h * |
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| 09:53.35 | cncfanatics | how to get the reagent count of a spell ? |
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| 09:54.10 | cncfanatics | someone ? |
| 09:54.16 | nevcairiel | l2framexml |
| 09:54.38 | nevcairiel | !framexml ActionButton.lua |
| 09:54.39 | cncfanatics | I am currently |
| 09:54.45 | cncfanatics | thats where I am |
| 09:54.45 | nevcairiel | what was the command? |
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| 09:55.05 | nevcairiel | check ActionButton_UpdateCount then :P |
| 09:55.42 | cncfanatics | I asked for a SPELL count |
| 09:55.43 | cncfanatics | not action |
| 09:55.48 | cncfanatics | I dont use action IDs |
| 09:56.02 | nevcairiel | you cant do that for spells |
| 09:56.07 | nevcairiel | go with action ids :P |
| 09:56.13 | cncfanatics | die :) |
| 09:56.16 | cncfanatics | silly |
| 09:56.40 | cncfanatics | one more thing to request to slouken ? |
| 09:57.03 | cncfanatics | anyone can post for me on US heh ? |
| 09:57.23 | nevcairiel | you prolly wont get it |
| 09:57.43 | cncfanatics | why not ? |
| 09:57.53 | cncfanatics | GetActionCount exist, GetItemCount exist, but not GetSpellCount |
| 09:58.22 | cncfanatics | GetActionCount probably uses something similar to GetSpellCount internaly when it found out what spell is on the action button in the first place |
| 09:59.19 | cncfanatics | hmmm, does Babble-Spell have a list of what reagents are needed to cast said spell ? |
| 10:00.08 | nevcairiel | no |
| 10:01.09 | [Ammo] | the default UI already shows reagent amounts |
| 10:01.12 | [Ammo] | for spells |
| 10:02.12 | cncfanatics | yea, using GetActionCount(); |
| 10:02.18 | cncfanatics | so if I dont use action IDs i'm screwed |
| 10:02.26 | [Ammo] | then use em |
| 10:02.33 | orionshock | oh wow, sinkLib's "pop-up" out put option is really obnoxious |
| 10:02.41 | [Ammo] | hahaha |
| 10:02.45 | cncfanatics | [Ammo], no :p |
| 10:02.51 | [Ammo] | well then good luck |
| 10:03.19 | cncfanatics | will find a way eventualy, even if it means parsing the damn reagent out of the god damn tooltip |
| 10:03.29 | cncfanatics | (which is silly, WTB GetSpellCount) |
| 10:03.31 | [Ammo] | wonder what gives it the popup |
| 10:03.46 | [Ammo] | as in default sinklib should not have popup ability |
| 10:04.54 | orionshock | it's a small over sized square that is the width of the message and 2x height of the text that is just under mid screen |
| 10:05.28 | orionshock | ive seen some annoying addons that option takes the cake |
| 10:05.37 | [Ammo] | no I mean _what_ addon adds the Popup Sink |
| 10:05.48 | [Ammo] | probably some prat abomination |
| 10:06.04 | orionshock | might be prat, i though it was default |
| 10:06.09 | [Ammo] | it's not default |
| 10:06.16 | [Ammo] | why on earth would you want such a thing |
| 10:09.38 | orionshock | fartn' round with hourglass and sink lib while i wait for a PuG to assemble |
| 10:13.38 | orionshock | Ok , general question of ethics : the author of hourglass dosn't want to actualy update it to include most / all the standard options that come with bar-using addons ; so some one else branched it ... |
| 10:14.17 | orionshock | some one else sugested adding SCT support though sinkLib, but that wasn't added because it involved extra libs that whern't origionaly included. |
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| 10:14.54 | orionshock | <PROTECTED> |
| 10:14.58 | [Ammo] | there is SCT supprt in sinklib |
| 10:15.14 | orionshock | "Scrolling Combat Text" -- IE generic term |
| 10:15.24 | CIA-14 | 03mikk * r47507 10LibStub/tests/test2.lua: |
| 10:15.24 | CIA-14 | LibStub: LS-16 |
| 10:15.24 | CIA-14 | - Verify that :IterateLibraries() only ever sees ONE reference of the library, not several. |
| 10:15.38 | [Ammo] | try form a complete sentence to suggest something orionshock |
| 10:15.57 | [Ammo] | sinklib has support for various things, FCT, SCT, MSBT, Parrot etc |
| 10:16.20 | [Ammo] | ah wait, you're talking about support on hourglass for those |
| 10:16.36 | [Ammo] | if the author doesn't need it, and knowing evl he wants to keep it minimal it won't get in there |
| 10:17.21 | orionshock | right - others have added SinkLib support and all the bar options just no one has put them together and put them on the /trunk part of teh SVN |
| 10:17.44 | orionshock | wondering if it would be allright if i did that but called it something like "ExtendedHourglass" |
| 10:18.10 | CIA-14 | 03mikk * r47508 10LibStub/tests/test.lua: |
| 10:18.11 | CIA-14 | LibStub: LS-16 |
| 10:18.11 | CIA-14 | - Verify that minor number string parser uses the FIRST number seen in a string, not second |
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| 10:19.11 | evl | [Ammo]: I've given Hourglass away |
| 10:19.27 | evl | I asked the new author to tag my old release and continue bloating it |
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| 10:19.49 | evl | [Ammo]: I replaced my Aloft yesterday with 9 lines, i like it minimal :D |
| 10:20.45 | [Ammo] | ah ok |
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| 10:21.55 | orionshock | .. well i wouldn't call the additions he made bloat , bit un unnecessary in some regards |
| 10:22.30 | evl | I don't care really |
| 10:22.37 | evl | first it was evl_Cooldowns |
| 10:22.40 | evl | then I was asked to share it |
| 10:22.45 | evl | then came a forum thread, a million patches |
| 10:22.56 | evl | and suddenly it had a shitload of options and features I would never use |
| 10:22.59 | cncfanatics | fuck it, server restarting |
| 10:23.46 | [Ammo] | every user wants a gazillion different options |
| 10:23.58 | evl | I don't |
| 10:24.06 | evl | All my stuff is placed using SetPoint |
| 10:24.08 | [Ammo] | I mean 'user' not coder |
| 10:24.17 | evl | and I prefer my options as local Offset = 5 |
| 10:24.18 | orionshock | u want a gazion options with cooldowns, thats CDT2, that has alot of extra bloat imo |
| 10:24.29 | evl | I like tinytip |
| 10:24.34 | evl | it has the core functionality in one mod |
| 10:24.37 | evl | and the options bloat in another |
| 10:25.55 | cncfanatics | server restarting, i'm gonna go eat stuff |
| 10:26.47 | evl | Can one modify a template |
| 10:26.57 | evl | and get say it's OnEnter script reflected across all inheriting? |
| 10:28.10 | CIA-14 | 03mikk * r47509 10LibStub/tests/test4.lua: |
| 10:28.10 | CIA-14 | LibStub: LS-16 |
| 10:28.10 | CIA-14 | - Test that LibStub upgrades itself properly |
| 10:28.10 | CIA-14 | - Test that LibStub DOESN'T upgrade itself unnecessarily |
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| 10:53.07 | mitch0-zZ | what do the number mean in the LibStub commit messages? (like LS-16) |
| 10:55.35 | nevcairiel | its to raise questions in here |
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| 10:55.50 | omega | success! |
| 10:56.10 | nevcairiel | yeah we're efficient |
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| 10:58.02 | CIA-14 | 03cncfanatics * r47510 10FlexBar2/ (7 files in 6 dirs): (log message trimmed) |
| 10:58.02 | CIA-14 | FlexBar2: |
| 10:58.02 | CIA-14 | Action.lua |
| 10:58.02 | CIA-14 | <PROTECTED> |
| 10:58.02 | CIA-14 | EventManager.lua |
| 10:58.03 | CIA-14 | <PROTECTED> |
| 10:58.05 | CIA-14 | Highlighting.lua |
| 10:59.31 | ramoz | wow |
| 10:59.33 | ramoz | ¨flexbar |
| 10:59.36 | ramoz | gets work done! |
| 11:00.21 | ckknight | mitch0-zZ: http://jira.wowace.com/browse/LS-16 |
| 11:01.02 | orionshock | login req ? |
| 11:01.03 | cncfanatics | ramoz, ur late |
| 11:01.09 | cncfanatics | its perfectly usable |
| 11:01.13 | cncfanatics | since ages now |
| 11:01.19 | cncfanatics | I'm quite near a release now |
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| 11:06.52 | cncfanatics | jira ? |
| 11:08.12 | orionshock | colaboration software |
| 11:08.15 | orionshock | suite |
| 11:08.36 | cncfanatics | let me create an acc |
| 11:09.05 | cncfanatics | how to add projects heh ? |
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| 11:15.01 | ckknight | cncfanatics: hrm, can't figure out how |
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| 11:17.14 | cncfanatics | thats nice, we have a project tracker where we cant add projects :) |
| 11:17.39 | orionshock | account lvl access rights -- prolly why you cant find that button called "Add Project" |
| 11:17.40 | [Ammo] | that's because it's under evaluation |
| 11:17.43 | [Ammo] | and you need enough access |
| 11:19.32 | CIA-14 | 03joshborke * r47511 10LibStub/LibStub.lua: LibStub - small optimization to NewLibrary. |
| 11:19.39 | JoshBorke | woohoo! |
| 11:19.41 | JoshBorke | i helped LibStub |
| 11:19.55 | cncfanatics | someone reverse JoshBorke's change and do it himself plx :p |
| 11:20.07 | JoshBorke | hate @ cnc |
| 11:20.17 | cncfanatics | love @ josk |
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| 11:25.48 | [Ammo] | joshborke needs to learn to tag it with LS |
| 11:26.15 | ckknight | actually what issue would it fall under? |
| 11:26.26 | nevcairiel | LS-8 is good for that |
| 11:26.30 | nevcairiel | find all tweaks |
| 11:26.30 | nevcairiel | etc |
| 11:26.31 | nevcairiel | ^^ |
| 11:26.34 | [Ammo] | indeed |
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| 11:28.19 | JoshBorke | ~lart nevcairiel |
| 11:28.19 | purl | takes out a cattle prod and gives nevcairiel a good jolt |
| 11:28.21 | JoshBorke | ~lart [Ammo |
| 11:28.21 | purl | pours hot grits down the front of [Ammo's pants |
| 11:28.27 | JoshBorke | gd clones |
| 11:28.30 | JoshBorke | ~lart [Ammo] |
| 11:28.30 | purl | executes killall -KILL [Ammo] |
| 11:28.38 | cncfanatics | heh |
| 11:28.43 | cncfanatics | thats a VERY nice command |
| 11:28.45 | [Ammo] | stick to the program JoshBorke! |
| 11:28.56 | JoshBorke | i just can't handle the pressure! |
| 11:28.57 | Grum | purl forgot the escaping! |
| 11:29.19 | orionshock | what else does purl say? |
| 11:29.25 | ckknight | everything. |
| 11:29.31 | JoshBorke | ~factinfo lart |
| 11:29.31 | purl | lart -- created by RoyK <~roy@110.80-203-29.nextgentel.com> at Tue Nov 30 10:02:22 2004 (1000 days); it has been requested 16 times, last by durcyn, 6d 15h 46m 40s ago. |
| 11:29.40 | JoshBorke | ~literal lart |
| 11:29.41 | purl | "lart" is "Luser Attitude Re-adjustment Tool" |
| 11:29.49 | JoshBorke | ~facthistory lart |
| 11:29.50 | nevcairiel | lol |
| 11:29.57 | JoshBorke | ~facthist lart |
| 11:30.03 | [Ammo] | hmm lart is 1000 days old |
| 11:30.04 | [Ammo] | yay |
| 11:30.05 | JoshBorke | ~factsearch lart |
| 11:30.10 | JoshBorke | ~lart purl |
| 11:30.10 | purl | DoSes joshborke |
| 11:30.11 | ckknight | ~factinfo lart (.*?) |
| 11:30.11 | purl | ckknight: there's no such factoid as lart (.*?) |
| 11:30.22 | ckknight | ~factinfo cmd: lart (.*?) |
| 11:30.22 | purl | cmd: lart (.*?) -- created by [George] <~Test@m171-mp1-cvx2a.bre.ntl.com> at Sat Jun 8 19:43:25 2002 (1905 days); it has been requested 48 times, last by findlay at Sat Jun 16 14:14:40 2007. |
| 11:30.31 | ckknight | hrm |
| 11:30.36 | JoshBorke | cmd: lart ckknight |
| 11:30.38 | ckknight | ~listkeys lart |
| 11:30.46 | JoshBorke | ~cmd: lart ckknight |
| 11:30.54 | ckknight | doesn't work that way, JoshBorke |
| 11:31.00 | JoshBorke | bah! |
| 11:31.03 | JoshBorke | ~lart purl |
| 11:31.03 | purl | teaches joshborke the basics, including how to RTM |
| 11:31.07 | ckknight | ~factinfo cmd: ~lart (.*?) |
| 11:31.07 | purl | cmd: ~lart (.*?) -- created by L4m3r <n=l4m3r@s122-237.resnet.ucla.edu> at Wed Jan 31 08:48:24 2007 (208 days); it has been requested 2 times, last by christel at Mon Feb 5 21:15:08 2007. |
| 11:31.30 | orionshock | wouldn't it be RFTM? |
| 11:31.54 | JoshBorke | RTFM you mean? |
| 11:32.04 | orionshock | ya ... |
| 11:32.56 | Grum | RMT is just the polite version ;D |
| 11:33.03 | Grum | s/RMT/RTM |
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| 11:33.18 | JoshBorke | s/RMT/RTM/ ;-) |
| 11:33.49 | cncfanatics | anyone know a good nice (themable) lua editor for linux ? |
| 11:33.55 | cncfanatics | vim is failing me atm with some irritating tab bugs |
| 11:34.12 | Grum | yeah i gotto agree vim isn't all that smart for lua O.o |
| 11:34.13 | JoshBorke | tab bugs?! what tab bugs?! |
| 11:34.20 | JoshBorke | vim works great for me |
| 11:34.29 | cncfanatics | I have multiple tabs open |
| 11:34.33 | cncfanatics | when I close it |
| 11:34.35 | cncfanatics | and reopen it |
| 11:34.35 | Grum | smartident on it doesnt de-tab when you do: function test()\nend |
| 11:34.41 | cncfanatics | and have lots of tabs open |
| 11:34.47 | cncfanatics | then two tabs might get merged |
| 11:34.52 | cncfanatics | with "tabs" I dont mean the TAb key |
| 11:34.55 | Grum | it will be: ()\n\tend instead of: ()\nend |
| 11:35.02 | cncfanatics | and also, the de-tabbing sucks |
| 11:35.29 | Grum | cncfanatics: 'multiple tabs' you mean split windows orso? |
| 11:35.32 | cncfanatics | yea |
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| 11:35.36 | cncfanatics | split into tabs :) |
| 11:35.39 | cncfanatics | per file |
| 11:35.52 | cncfanatics | it sometimes merge two of them into a single one (half the window each) for some reason |
| 11:36.05 | cncfanatics | probably cuz I have over 10 files open |
| 11:36.12 | cncfanatics | doesnt happen with less then 10 |
| 11:36.19 | cncfanatics | now, whats a nice lua editor then ? :p |
| 11:37.26 | Grum | a fixed vim |
| 11:37.40 | Grum | mmm tabs are like folds in a split window orso? |
| 11:38.22 | cncfanatics | split window into tabs |
| 11:38.24 | cncfanatics | one file per tab |
| 11:38.34 | Grum | mm i dont even use tabs .. omg ... wtb vim7 installed on all boxes i toy on |
| 11:38.37 | cncfanatics | with over 10 files some tabs will have 2 files per tab, which is irritating |
| 11:38.38 | Grum | oh i just split windows |
| 11:38.50 | cncfanatics | Grum, lemme screen ya |
| 11:38.59 | Grum | so you get split window on your tab? |
| 11:39.09 | PferdOne | i like Scite |
| 11:40.30 | Grum | well if you edit with vim anything else kinda sucks :) |
| 11:40.52 | cncfanatics | agree, vim is damn nice |
| 11:41.00 | CIA-14 | 03poull * r47512 10SmartRes/ (SmartRes-deDE.lua SmartRes.lua): SmartRes: Updated german localization and temporarily removed colouring to avoid errors. |
| 11:41.03 | orionshock | well that's new "only 7pm in outer Mongolia atm" |
| 11:41.19 | cncfanatics | wouldnt mind an unbugged version though |
| 11:41.28 | cncfanatics | http://cncfanatic.free.fr/Screenshot.png |
| 11:41.41 | cncfanatics | Grum |
| 11:41.41 | cncfanatics | i'm on the 10th tab |
| 11:41.44 | cncfanatics | 2 files in the same damn tab for some reason |
| 11:41.58 | cncfanatics | if I close it, and open both files again, it'll do fine till I close it & start it again |
| 11:42.12 | Grum | thats not vim .. that's gvim |
| 11:42.13 | Grum | tssk |
| 11:42.18 | cncfanatics | still same :p |
| 11:42.37 | PferdOne | see, scite looks close to that, but is instead for win :> |
| 11:43.03 | cncfanatics | I doubt it has all its features ;) |
| 11:43.10 | vithos | SciTE is multiplatform |
| 11:43.18 | Grum | anything which is not vim sucks seriously :P |
| 11:43.22 | cncfanatics | so is gvim, but thats not the point |
| 11:43.29 | cncfanatics | I love vim |
| 11:43.33 | cncfanatics | but it lacks some stuff |
| 11:43.38 | vithos | but if you like SciTE, try Notepad++ (same editor component) |
| 11:43.40 | cncfanatics | I tried scite before, it seriously lacked |
| 11:43.43 | Grum | vim == gwim ;) |
| 11:43.46 | cncfanatics | I love notepad++ |
| 11:43.48 | cncfanatics | but, its win only |
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| 11:44.20 | PferdOne | k thx, i try it |
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| 11:44.43 | cncfanatics | np++ has nearly all features vim has |
| 11:45.17 | PferdOne | but first of all i've to figure out how to change the text value of a font string |
| 11:45.29 | Grum | ah well, whenever i'm not in vim/vi i litter my typing with vim-commands :) |
| 11:46.17 | cncfanatics | Grum, I dont use most vim commands :p |
| 11:46.21 | cncfanatics | what ones u use ? |
| 11:46.35 | Grum | meh i am hardly in insert mode :) |
| 11:47.41 | cncfanatics | heh |
| 11:47.44 | cncfanatics | i'm hardly not in insert mode |
| 11:48.09 | Sole | I couldn't get used to vim commands |
| 11:48.12 | Sole | felt too weird |
| 11:48.19 | CIA-14 | 03orionshock 07orionshock * r47513 10Fubar_ReportAFK/Fubar_ReportAFK/ReportAFK.lua: |
| 11:48.19 | CIA-14 | Fubar_ReportAFK |
| 11:48.19 | CIA-14 | -if it's not borked don't bork it |
| 11:48.19 | CIA-14 | -fixed a self induced problem where it wasn't counting correctly on the tooltip |
| 11:48.54 | orionshock | ok now im done futzing with it till patch day :D |
| 11:48.59 | vithos | same. didn't seem worth it to memorize commands |
| 11:49.31 | vithos | i have a mouse, and i'm not afraid to use it |
| 11:49.43 | Grum | mouse .. iew :) |
| 11:50.09 | Grum | the only time i use my mouse is when i need to copy a single word my cursor is not near enough to ;) |
| 11:50.23 | Sole | I can see vim being fast to work with |
| 11:50.36 | Sole | but its got a very annoying learning curve |
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| 11:51.49 | Sole | Im happy with np++ + the function list and browser plugins |
| 11:52.06 | Grum | Sole: it has |
| 11:52.09 | Sole | quick navigation of folders and then easy navigation of code with function list |
| 11:52.15 | Grum | and one problem - one you go vim you can never *ever* go back to anything else |
| 11:52.20 | cncfanatics | depends |
| 11:52.24 | cncfanatics | I dont use most of the commands |
| 11:52.25 | Grum | maybe emacs .. but .. hmz |
| 11:52.26 | cncfanatics | so np with me to switch :p |
| 11:52.31 | Grum | you dont use vim then :) |
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| 11:52.45 | Sole | then youre simply using a text editor |
| 11:52.47 | Grum | i bet you are ignored when you are not in editmode ;) |
| 11:52.53 | baer_ | moin. |
| 11:52.53 | cncfanatics | :p |
| 11:52.54 | Grum | s/edit/insert/ |
| 11:53.02 | cncfanatics | I know most :commands |
| 11:53.33 | vithos | really though, what commands do you use that aren't just "oh noes, i'm from the 70's, the mouse hasn't been invented yet and/or i think i'm saving years of my life by not moving my hand off my keyboard" |
| 11:53.34 | Grum | can i compress this more? |
| 11:53.35 | Grum | for _,v in pairs({"Party","PartyPet","FriendlyPlayers","FriendlyPlayersPets","HostilePlayers","HostilePlayersPets","Creature"}) do |
| 11:53.38 | Grum | <PROTECTED> |
| 11:53.39 | Grum | end |
| 11:53.40 | Grum | SetCVar("CombatDeathLogRange",200) |
| 11:53.41 | Grum | (except for whitespace etc) |
| 11:54.09 | Grum | vithos: having to grab my mouse all the time will only *help* me get RSI :) |
| 11:54.19 | vithos | so, nothing? |
| 11:54.32 | Grum | and i find it annoying |
| 11:54.44 | Grum | and you can do more within vim than you can with a silly mouse :) |
| 11:54.45 | Sole | RSI = ? |
| 11:54.57 | Grum | Repetative Strain Injury |
| 11:55.00 | vithos | Grum: do answer the question then |
| 11:55.14 | orionshock | RSI ? is that related to CRI or CRS? |
| 11:55.14 | Grum | lets say you dont have Ctrl-V anywhere :) |
| 11:55.29 | vithos | but isn't using the mouse like, less repetitive than typing? |
| 11:55.36 | cncfanatics | depends |
| 11:55.40 | cncfanatics | how fast you can type |
| 11:55.47 | Sole | I type fast |
| 11:55.47 | cncfanatics | I'm faster with my keyb then my mouse |
| 11:55.56 | Sole | like flash fast |
| 11:56.01 | Grum | you have to 'aim' with the mouse which takes more of your muscles :) |
| 11:56.03 | orionshock | ttyl everyone |
| 11:56.06 | vithos | i haven't measured in years |
| 11:56.08 | Sole | bye |
| 11:56.10 | JoshBorke | using visual mode i can copy and paste easier with just the keyboard |
| 11:56.13 | vithos | but, pretty fast |
| 11:56.40 | Sole | I just found it weird having to manually work with each character |
| 11:56.45 | cncfanatics | brb, X needs a relog |
| 11:56.48 | Grum | if your editor doesnt have 'Block selecting' (vim's ^V) it completely sucks :) |
| 11:56.49 | Sole | or maybe I didnt give it long enough |
| 11:57.12 | Sole | Grum: the fucks that and why would you need it? |
| 11:57.16 | Grum | Sole: the one thing is that you *can* use hjlk for cursor movement |
| 11:57.25 | Sole | I know |
| 11:57.34 | Sole | I tried using hjkl...felt handicapped |
| 11:57.39 | Grum | yup - dont |
| 11:57.44 | PferdOne | can anyone help me with this, i can't figure out what i'm doing wrong -> http://ace.pastey.net/72796 it says "...attempt to call method 'SetText' (a nil value)" :/ |
| 11:57.49 | Grum | every normal terminal has proper arrowkey support :) |
| 11:57.54 | Sole | o_O |
| 11:58.01 | vithos | wait, so you use the arrow keys? |
| 11:58.01 | cncfanatics | upkey ftw< |
| 11:58.21 | Grum | PferdOne: dont you mean: self:SetText? :) |
| 11:58.24 | JoshBorke | PferdOne: LabeFormLabel1Label:SetText() |
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| 11:58.38 | JoshBorke | and are you sure that it will pass that self correctly? |
| 11:58.52 | JoshBorke | btw, vi sucks for not having arrow key support |
| 11:58.59 | Grum | vi sucks anyhow |
| 11:59.01 | JoshBorke | but eventually you get used to using hjlk ;-) |
| 11:59.03 | Grum | vim should be used :) |
| 11:59.17 | Grum | vi is for 'when i am on this old 1991 solaris box i can still edit stuff! |
| 11:59.45 | JoshBorke | it took me 2 years to get used to hjlk |
| 12:00.09 | Grum | so fun to see people edit in pico orso .. that so completely reminds me of 'edit.com' from the DOS era =D |
| 12:00.11 | PferdOne | thx alot JoshBorke! |
| 12:00.13 | PferdOne | <3 |
| 12:00.14 | Grum | JoshBorke: i never bothered :) |
| 12:00.27 | JoshBorke | it's almost natural for me now |
| 12:00.36 | Grum | i'm still wondering if self:SetText wouldn't work as well :) |
| 12:00.44 | PferdOne | no it doesnt |
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| 12:01.19 | Grum | clearly my noobish hopes for logically working code have been shattered! |
| 12:01.25 | Nargiddley | i think you'd need to use Label_OnEnter(this) |
| 12:01.36 | PferdOne | hmm |
| 12:01.40 | Grum | mmm also nice 'this' and 'self' .. rawr |
| 12:01.47 | PferdOne | wait a sec |
| 12:01.49 | Sole | but this = LabelForm |
| 12:01.58 | Sole | you want LabelFormLabel1Label |
| 12:02.01 | Nargiddley | hm yeah, so it wouldnt work anyway |
| 12:02.37 | Sole | in other news: xml made me cry before we had lua based frame creation - true story |
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| 12:03.08 | Grum | indeed |
| 12:03.13 | Grum | why not use teh-lua! |
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| 12:04.29 | PferdOne | cause i'm just getting started with lua and all this stuff :> |
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| 12:05.48 | cncfanatics | oooh |
| 12:05.52 | cncfanatics | notepad++ works with wine |
| 12:05.53 | cncfanatics | sexy |
| 12:06.09 | Diao | i forgot how much of a warzone hillsbrad is :( |
| 12:06.13 | baer_ | np++ rocks :) |
| 12:06.20 | Sole | yeah I like np++ |
| 12:06.22 | CIA-14 | 03helium * r47514 10FuBar_ArenaFu/FuBar_ArenaFuLocals.zhTW.lua: FuBar_ArenaFu - updated zhTW localization |
| 12:06.27 | baer_ | but actually emacs rocks more. :-p |
| 12:06.36 | Sole | now if only it could check syntax errors |
| 12:06.57 | Sole | I saw a screenshot of SCiTE doing it so NP++ should be able to somewhere |
| 12:07.14 | Xinhuan | zz |
| 12:07.27 | Xinhuan | someone crashed my server with the arena invite bug again |
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| 12:08.35 | Diao | lol |
| 12:08.43 | baer_ | arena invite bug? |
| 12:08.47 | Diao | yeah they crashed it right as blizz announced the emergency hotfix |
| 12:08.52 | Xinhuan | yep |
| 12:09.20 | PferdOne | always these hax0r$, i think you would even try to run np++ inside wine, that runs on colinux, that runs on wine, that runs on your actual linux, just to see if it works, am i right? ;P |
| 12:09.24 | Diao | i've been ganked 8 times by 70s in hillsbrad |
| 12:09.28 | Diao | time to bring my 70 and countergank |
| 12:09.28 | Diao | :( |
| 12:09.37 | cncfanatics | now I need the inkPot theme for np++ |
| 12:09.39 | cncfanatics | any locations ? :p |
| 12:09.57 | Diao | locations? |
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| 12:10.14 | baer_ | nope :) |
| 12:10.15 | cncfanatics | anywhere to download the inkpot theme for np++* |
| 12:10.21 | baer_ | use emacs. ^^ |
| 12:10.26 | Sole | cncfanatics: thought np++ was win only? arent you running linux? |
| 12:10.31 | Diao | ah |
| 12:10.33 | Diao | wine |
| 12:10.35 | Diao | he just said :P |
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| 12:10.42 | Sole | he did? |
| 12:10.46 | Diao | yeah |
| 12:10.55 | Sole | tuche he did |
| 12:11.01 | Diao | :P |
| 12:11.17 | Wobin | what is the hack? |
| 12:11.24 | Wobin | we've just rebooted |
| 12:11.32 | Xinhuan | if you invite someone to a arena team, he doesn't accept, and you (team leader) log off, then he accepts it, it crashes the server (supposedly) |
| 12:11.33 | Sole | mneh brain melt - 2 more essays to go..no sleep allowed |
| 12:11.42 | Wobin | ah |
| 12:11.44 | Wobin | stupid |
| 12:12.04 | Sole | how is that even possible? |
| 12:12.29 | Sole | did blizz manage to create an infinite loop when the player doesnt exist? |
| 12:12.34 | Sole | and it keeps looping to find him |
| 12:13.20 | Diao | dunno |
| 12:13.28 | Diao | but it causes all instances to go down for like 30 min too |
| 12:13.35 | Sole | office 2007 is cool |
| 12:13.45 | Sole | all purty and shat |
| 12:14.02 | Xinhuan | its ok i'm stuck in an instance where instance servers aren't available |
| 12:14.09 | Xinhuan | and we prob have to reclear all the trash to kael again |
| 12:14.28 | Sole | sounds like a boatload of fun |
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| 12:15.01 | Diao | yeah it soft resets the instance too |
| 12:15.19 | Diao | boo |
| 12:15.21 | Diao | stupid druid |
| 12:15.26 | Diao | died to me once |
| 12:15.30 | Diao | and now she's hiding in stealth :( |
| 12:15.33 | Diao | won't fight me again |
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| 12:16.57 | Mecdemort | ckknight: Is there a way to sort alphabetically a Catgeory's children? |
| 12:18.49 | Sole | ok gnite |
| 12:18.55 | Sole | I gotta focus on this stupid essay shit |
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| 12:23.22 | cncfanatics | heh |
| 12:23.29 | cncfanatics | i'm copying the inkpot theme into np+ :p |
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| 12:33.08 | cncfanatics | Grum |
| 12:33.17 | cncfanatics | got an idea, in the screenshot that I sent you, what font is being used ? |
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| 12:34.01 | pb_ee1 | Does cyCircled support Bongos? |
| 12:34.02 | CIA-14 | 03deccard * r47515 10MiniChat/Core.lua: |
| 12:34.02 | CIA-14 | MiniChat: |
| 12:34.02 | CIA-14 | - new option to toggle if windows should be minimized on startup |
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| 12:41.50 | sb | hmm - patch tomorrow? :p |
| 12:43.35 | ramoz | any blues? |
| 12:52.37 | CIA-14 | 03mecdemort * r47516 10TableInspector/Core.lua: TableInspector: - Fixed coloring of functions |
| 12:54.50 | cncfanatics | Grum, u were right -.- |
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| 12:55.07 | Grum | no way |
| 12:55.11 | Grum | what did i say which was right? |
| 12:55.39 | cncfanatics | once u use vim u cant change |
| 12:56.00 | fireglow | gogo nano -.- |
| 12:56.09 | CIA-14 | 03mecdemort * r47517 10TableInspector/Core.lua: TableInspector: - Why do global variables always seem to pop up at 5am? |
| 12:56.32 | cncfanatics | inkPot > np++ |
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| 12:59.38 | cncfanatics | now, i'm gonna go play kotor |
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| 13:00.50 | baer_ | kotor? :) |
| 13:01.08 | baer_ | oh, he's gone. |
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| 13:13.44 | Hjalte | knights of the old republic, i think |
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| 13:16.29 | cncfanatics | bleh i'm bored |
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| 13:17.36 | Hjalte | cncfanatics, you can write a buff addon that supports all classes and works sort of like pallypower :p |
| 13:17.59 | CIA-14 | 03pettigrow * r47519 10BigWigs_Naxxramas/Sapphiron.lua: BigWigs_Naxxramas: Sapphiron: frFR Update |
| 13:18.53 | cncfanatics | Hjalte, I got enough work with FB |
| 13:18.59 | cncfanatics | if I feel like coding I work on that :p |
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| 13:22.04 | Hjalte | I'm about to learn java in school. How much is java, object-oriented coding, similar to lua? |
| 13:22.50 | cncfanatics | probably not at all |
| 13:22.54 | cncfanatics | as lua OO is kinda weird |
| 13:23.35 | omega | object oriented principals are mostly language agnostic |
| 13:23.46 | omega | but oo implementation varies alot |
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| 13:23.56 | omega | even within languages (at least some, like perl and javascript) |
| 13:26.17 | Grum | cncfanatics: vim is too nice to let go =D |
| 13:26.28 | Grum | i get 'A', 'I' all over my code when i dont have vim ;( |
| 13:26.36 | cncfanatics | :) |
| 13:26.41 | Grum | and ofc the fun :wq in the middle of the line somewhere |
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| 13:29.57 | Funkeh` | loes |
| 13:32.11 | CIA-14 | 03nickenyfiken * r47520 10FuBar_TrainerFu/ (3 files in 2 dirs): FuBar_TrainerFu: zhTW locale update. |
| 13:32.11 | Grum | lua has no 'real' oo, just some namespace fun |
| 13:33.26 | Grum | and some build-in syntactic sugar to make it look nicer |
| 13:33.43 | Mecdemort | how might you guys abbreviate: "Empty Bag Sots: #" and "Empty Bank Slots: #" they both seem a bit wordy |
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| 13:34.29 | CIA-14 | 03ominous * r47521 10Cartographer_Data/Mining.lua: Cartographer_Data: Weekly update |
| 13:34.52 | Grum | mm i wonder what kind of data is in that database |
| 13:35.00 | Grum | is that all notes known to mankind? =D |
| 13:36.42 | Grum | omg i've coded 28kb of crap already O.o |
| 13:36.54 | Hjalte | Any warlocks around? Is Demonic Tactics worth it in a felguard build? |
| 13:37.11 | Pkekyo | http://orz.4chan.org/wg/src/1188173859233.png :> |
| 13:37.25 | Mecdemort | lol |
| 13:38.31 | cncfanatics | Grum, I coded 114kb of crap |
| 13:38.37 | Grum | hehe |
| 13:38.44 | Grum | this is my first addon, never expected it to get this large |
| 13:38.47 | Grum | and not even near done :( |
| 13:39.17 | cncfanatics | Grum, my addon is not even done and is already this big :p |
| 13:39.20 | cncfanatics | I'm still in beta-phase |
| 13:39.29 | cncfanatics | so dont complain :) |
| 13:39.55 | cncfanatics | 1130 line Core.lua file ftw (it achieves nothing on its own) |
| 13:40.11 | Grum | still need: intersection with non-square minimaps and an edit-mode |
| 13:40.42 | cncfanatics | does it work with zoom ? |
| 13:41.10 | Grum | and some severe optimization with 'when to draw' .. it draws every time my scheduled event fires O.o |
| 13:41.18 | Grum | yes it does |
| 13:41.20 | Grum | i think |
| 13:41.24 | Grum | i coded it do do so |
| 13:41.28 | Grum | *to do |
| 13:41.32 | Grum | didn't actually test it |
| 13:41.47 | Grum | it works flawlessly on a square minimap now |
| 13:42.35 | cncfanatics | why doesnt it work on a round one ? |
| 13:42.40 | cncfanatics | exactly the same except u see less, no ? |
| 13:42.41 | krka | Grum: what oo features are you unable to use in lua? |
| 13:42.50 | cncfanatics | krka, any that u didnt code urself |
| 13:43.12 | cncfanatics | u can code them all ofc |
| 13:43.16 | Grum | krka: i know all is possible |
| 13:43.21 | krka | or use someone elses |
| 13:43.32 | Grum | cncfanatics: i do some severe clipping calculating |
| 13:43.46 | Grum | havent implemented it for round or partially round minimaps yet |
| 13:43.51 | cncfanatics | heh |
| 13:44.00 | cncfanatics | clipping means what to draw and what not to draw right ? |
| 13:44.04 | Grum | yes |
| 13:44.07 | omega | Grum: what are you working on? |
| 13:44.16 | krka | you could, for instance, use this one: http://lua-users.org/wiki/ObjectOrientationTutorial |
| 13:44.41 | Grum | Cartographer_Routes - draw lines on your worldmap and see them on your minimap |
| 13:44.53 | krka | hm, i should add that to autotravel |
| 13:45.01 | Grum | multi routes per worldmap, you can toggle them, select color, etcblablabla |
| 13:45.01 | krka | would be useful on the minimap |
| 13:45.12 | Grum | autotravel still exists? :) |
| 13:45.23 | krka | sort of |
| 13:45.43 | Grum | i heard after the API change you needed to 'break CoC' to get it working |
| 13:46.18 | Pkekyo | http://orz.4chan.org/wg/src/1188183239517.jpg :> |
| 13:46.28 | krka | i have redefined its purpose |
| 13:46.36 | Grum | whats it now? |
| 13:46.46 | Grum | and got a screenie? :) |
| 13:46.58 | krka | it's not even nearly complete |
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| 13:47.08 | Grum | so what are you making? :) |
| 13:47.16 | krka | show the user visual guidelines on how to reach a particular target |
| 13:47.34 | Pkekyo | http://orz.4chan.org/wg/src/1188210033180.png :> |
| 13:47.35 | Grum | did you also make the original one? :) |
| 13:47.38 | krka | i.e. a rotating arrow in the middle of the screen |
| 13:47.40 | krka | yes |
| 13:47.48 | Grum | you know that was the best addon ever? |
| 13:48.03 | Grum | how did you implement the node structure? |
| 13:48.12 | krka | badly |
| 13:48.16 | krka | i do it better now |
| 13:48.23 | krka | old version |
| 13:48.36 | krka | data.points[index].x (and y) |
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| 13:48.42 | krka | data.lines[index1][index2] |
| 13:48.45 | krka | new version |
| 13:48.58 | krka | data.xpoints[index] / data.ypoints[index], data.lines[index1][index2] |
| 13:49.42 | krka | yeah, i thought it was kind of useful too, before |
| 13:49.45 | Grum | hmm why notsomething like: data[ point_x_y ].connected_to = {point_x_y,point_x_y,point_x_y} ? |
| 13:50.05 | krka | less efficient |
| 13:50.10 | krka | and slower to iterate |
| 13:50.29 | krka | and slower to check for connectivity between two points |
| 13:50.33 | Grum | with for point_x_y the 'x,y to int' structure cartographer uses |
| 13:50.38 | Grum | why? |
| 13:50.51 | Grum | you know a point: check if it has a connected_to .. i agree it's not really efficient :/ |
| 13:51.01 | krka | now, the check for a line between p1 and p2 is: return data.lines[p1][p2] |
| 13:51.26 | krka | otherwise, i'd have to loop through data.lines[p1] and search for p2 |
| 13:51.30 | Grum | mm |
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| 13:51.52 | Funkeh` | So I'm being told a single 8800GTS beats 2x8600 Sli'd you guys agree? |
| 13:52.03 | nevcairiel | hrm |
| 13:52.07 | nevcairiel | a GTS dunno |
| 13:52.14 | nevcairiel | a GTX certainly |
| 13:52.34 | Funkeh` | 2x8600 GT |
| 13:52.53 | Mecdemort | if the 2 are utilized properly they should beat out the single, but it's unlikely they will be |
| 13:53.22 | Funkeh` | I'm not holding hopes for much SLi support on Vista |
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| 13:53.32 | CIA-14 | MiniChat: |
| 13:53.32 | CIA-14 | - new option to AutoMaximize on system messages |
| 13:53.39 | nevcairiel | its not so much a OS thing |
| 13:53.43 | nevcairiel | more a application thing |
| 13:53.51 | Grum | krka: just wondering if using int containing the x/y information for the line indexes wouldn't be faster |
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| 13:55.46 | krka | you only have floats in lua :P |
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| 13:55.52 | Grum | krka: something like: local function getID(x, y) return round(x*10000, 0) + round(y*10000, 0)*10001 end -- and the reverse equivalent ofc |
| 13:55.59 | krka | you mean encoding (x,y) as a float somehow? |
| 13:56.00 | krka | hm |
| 13:56.01 | Mecdemort | everyone 41 point talent should be as OP as the felguard |
| 13:56.07 | Grum | that is what cartographer uses |
| 13:56.12 | Grum | and it's like VERY fast |
| 13:56.35 | krka | hm |
| 13:56.52 | Grum | see Cartographer/Cartograhper_Notes/Notes.lua |
| 13:57.34 | krka | is it faster than a few table lookups? |
| 13:57.46 | Grum | maybe if you even memoize that getXY/getID call it might be even faster |
| 13:57.57 | Grum | well you can actually use it as an index and store data on |
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| 13:58.33 | Grum | i just use lists of those ids as my 'points on route' |
| 13:58.47 | krka | i dont particularly like floats as table keys |
| 13:58.48 | Grum | and draw lines between consecutive points |
| 13:59.01 | Grum | rounding kills the floatiness :) |
| 13:59.07 | Grum | they are 'whole numbers' |
| 13:59.11 | krka | what happens for large / small values of x or y? |
| 13:59.14 | Grum | with 3 digits resolution |
| 13:59.18 | krka | right |
| 13:59.21 | Grum | x/y are [0,1] |
| 13:59.43 | Grum | hmm that also depends i guess |
| 13:59.56 | Grum | if you use GPS-coordinates or take the world-map relative coords |
| 14:00.38 | Grum | worldmap coords are rather funky and relative to the worldmap texture O.o |
| 14:00.43 | krka | i use continent relative coordinates |
| 14:00.44 | krka | in yards |
| 14:00.57 | Grum | oh well - i kinda have to go - need to catch a plan to vienna :D |
| 14:01.05 | krka | have fun |
| 14:01.08 | Grum | well check how Carto notes does it - you might get some inspiration :) |
| 14:01.48 | krka | dont need it :P |
| 14:02.39 | Pkekyo | hmm, for some reason the cops just came knocking on my door... O.o |
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| 14:02.54 | Funkeh` | You are under arrest for sucking? |
| 14:03.07 | Pkekyo | Funkeh`: dunno, I didn't open the door :> |
| 14:03.12 | Funkeh` | lol |
| 14:04.07 | cncfanatics | Pkekyo, I can see them in ur garden breaking something to enter |
| 14:04.44 | Pkekyo | cncfanatics: too bad for them...someone is renting our entire first floor :> |
| 14:08.02 | Pkekyo | some guy just called me 5 min ago and told me the cops were knocking on my door ^^ |
| 14:08.12 | Pkekyo | nice way to find out |
| 14:09.39 | cncfanatics | cewl indeed |
| 14:09.53 | cncfanatics | "Hey man, the cops are knocing at YOUR door" -.- |
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| 14:11.07 | nevcairiel | three cheers for Funkeh` :P |
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| 14:11.19 | Funkeh` | ;p |
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| 14:12.15 | Pkekyo | oh well, atleast it's better than opening the door just to find yourself facing 3-4 cops |
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| 14:17.02 | Saroz | omfg Funkeh`, fix your shit |
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| 14:17.30 | cncfanatics | Pkekyo, with them pointing their gun at you |
| 14:17.38 | Hjalte | [2007/08/27 16:16:13-1960-x1]: ...ns\Cartographer\Cartographer_Waypoints\Waypoints.lua:1019: attempt to perform arithmetic on local 'px' (a nil value): - Just got that, when logging out dead and then back in. |
| 14:18.17 | Pkekyo | cncfanatics: I sure as hell hope that I won't ever do anything that will make the cops arm themselves before coming after me |
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| 14:20.34 | grom358 | I was just doing netherbane before and omen was reporting my threat wrongly.. acording to everyone else (who mostly use ktm) i was 10-15k threat from the tank but on my omen list I was still 20% off from the tank |
| 14:21.01 | nevcairiel | 10-15k can as well be 20% :shrug |
| 14:21.30 | nevcairiel | not like aggro matters on netherbane |
| 14:21.33 | grom358 | yeah. but I pulled aggro when it said I was still 20% under |
| 14:21.42 | nevcairiel | how? |
| 14:22.09 | grom358 | idk.. that is why i am here. wondering if anyone else has had problems with omen |
| 14:22.24 | grom358 | tank had fearward up at all times too |
| 14:22.25 | CIA-14 | 03cncfanatics * r47524 10FlexBar2/ (4 files in 4 dirs): (log message trimmed) |
| 14:22.25 | CIA-14 | FlexBar2: |
| 14:22.25 | CIA-14 | Core.lua: |
| 14:22.25 | CIA-14 | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:22.25 | CIA-14 | Layout.lua: |
| 14:22.25 | CIA-14 | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:22.27 | CIA-14 | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:22.40 | nevcairiel | weird |
| 14:22.48 | grom358 | i meant to say nightbane* btw |
| 14:23.39 | Saroz | you fucking nubs dont even know the name of the boss |
| 14:23.41 | Saroz | jeeeeeesus |
| 14:23.48 | Saroz | 16:21:30 | <nevcairiel> not like aggro matters on netherbane |
| 14:23.50 | cncfanatics | netherspite + nightbane = netherbane |
| 14:23.50 | Saroz | hi2u! |
| 14:23.54 | cncfanatics | would be fun to have both combined |
| 14:24.04 | cncfanatics | a nightbane with a damaging aura + beams = ouch |
| 14:24.07 | nevcairiel | Saroz: not like ive been to kara in the last 2 month or so |
| 14:24.12 | Saroz | aww |
| 14:24.15 | Saroz | hugz! |
| 14:24.25 | nevcairiel | for what? |
| 14:24.29 | nevcairiel | i hate that place |
| 14:24.31 | nevcairiel | so fucking boring |
| 14:24.33 | Saroz | aww |
| 14:24.48 | Saroz | true, got all my phats and didnt go again :p |
| 14:24.55 | nevcairiel | same |
| 14:25.47 | cncfanatics | I need one more phat |
| 14:25.49 | cncfanatics | from nightbane |
| 14:25.55 | cncfanatics | fucker WONT EVER drop my damn chest |
| 14:26.18 | nevcairiel | i got all healing and dps equip |
| 14:26.27 | Saroz | got all healing and tank gear |
| 14:26.31 | Saroz | even fucking NB shield |
| 14:26.32 | Saroz | ftw |
| 14:27.01 | cncfanatics | merciless shield > NB one |
| 14:27.04 | Funkeh` | palatanklol |
| 14:27.06 | cncfanatics | 5.7k armor on a shield <3 |
| 14:27.17 | cncfanatics | Saroz, ur a palatank too ? :) |
| 14:27.25 | cncfanatics | Funkeh`: die |
| 14:27.32 | Funkeh` | Paladins need to learn their place, healing! |
| 14:27.36 | nevcairiel | yea |
| 14:27.49 | Funkeh` | You heal my ass so I can spam sw:d kk |
| 14:28.21 | cncfanatics | Funkeh`: class ? |
| 14:28.28 | cncfanatics | spriest I supose ? |
| 14:28.29 | Funkeh` | sw:d ? |
| 14:28.31 | cncfanatics | l2heal |
| 14:28.47 | cncfanatics | ur idiot class mates are starting to complain they're pidgeon holed into dps |
| 14:28.49 | cncfanatics | idiots |
| 14:28.49 | Funkeh` | I can dps efficiently, can you tank efficiently? loez now heal kk. :) |
| 14:28.55 | Funkeh` | lol |
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| 14:29.17 | grom358 | yeah.. so has anyone noticed problems with omen on nightbane fight? |
| 14:29.27 | Funkeh` | Nope |
| 14:29.38 | nevcairiel | let priests dps, they are better at that then healing |
| 14:29.54 | Matrix110 | they are good at both |
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| 14:34.17 | cncfanatics | everyone can checkout from http://svn.wowace.com/ right ? |
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| 14:36.22 | nevcairiel | right |
| 14:36.49 | cncfanatics | failing for a friend of mine for some reason |
| 14:37.04 | cncfanatics | Error: PROPFIND request failed on '/wowace/trunk/Ace2/AceLibrary' |
| 14:37.04 | cncfanatics | Error: PROPFIND of '/wowace/trunk/Ace2/AceLibrary': authorization failed (http://dev.wowace.com) |
| 14:37.09 | mitch0-zZ | cnc: sucky proxy |
| 14:37.11 | cncfanatics | all my externals are ofc set to svn.wowace.com and not dev |
| 14:37.24 | nevcairiel | obviosly, he failed |
| 14:37.41 | nevcairiel | or someone set externals wrong :P |
| 14:37.42 | Silviu- | [17:36:26] <F'cncfanatics> Error: PROPFIND of '/wowace/trunk/Ace2/AceLibrary': authorization failed (http://dev.wowace.com) |
| 14:37.45 | Silviu- | dev |
| 14:37.46 | Silviu- | :) |
| 14:38.41 | [Ammo] | dev indeed |
| 14:41.15 | mitch0-zZ | your externals are definitely poo (if talking about FlexBar2) |
| 14:41.19 | grom358 | also does nightbane aggro whoever is at 100% aggro. it seemed us caster would pull aggro at 100% and not 130% |
| 14:41.56 | mitch0-zZ | grom: was everyone using omen? (most importantly, the tank?) |
| 14:42.07 | mitch0-zZ | s,omen,threat-1.0, |
| 14:42.07 | cncfanatics | my externals are set all to svn.wowace.com |
| 14:42.41 | mitch0-zZ | [mitch@pelikan wowace]$ svn propget svn:externals FlexBar2/libs |
| 14:42.41 | mitch0-zZ | AceLibrary http://dev.wowace.com/wowace/trunk/Ace2/AceLibrary/ |
| 14:42.45 | grom358 | tank was using ktm |
| 14:42.59 | mitch0-zZ | cnc: ^^ |
| 14:43.22 | mitch0-zZ | grom: there's your problem |
| 14:43.38 | grom358 | i thought omen worked with ktm data? |
| 14:43.49 | nevcairiel | it trys to |
| 14:43.51 | nevcairiel | but not 100% |
| 14:43.52 | mitch0-zZ | grom: ktm will record global threat only, so the tank will have all that threat from the trash phases |
| 14:43.56 | cncfanatics | AceLibrary http://svn.wowace.com/wowace/trunk/Ace2/AceLibrary/ |
| 14:44.02 | cncfanatics | that line appears for me -.- |
| 14:44.07 | cncfanatics | on my propget |
| 14:44.13 | mitch0-zZ | cnc: commit it then? :) |
| 14:44.19 | grom358 | u talking about rain of bones? |
| 14:44.26 | cncfanatics | didnt change my externals for ages |
| 14:45.41 | mitch0-zZ | grom: well, when those skellies come |
| 14:45.55 | grom358 | so the ktm data doesn't get reset when nightbane lands again (which is new aggro table)? |
| 14:46.01 | mitch0-zZ | cnc: well, last commit to libs is by cwdg (at least on trunk) |
| 14:46.25 | mitch0-zZ | grom: I don't know if there's a reset there |
| 14:46.44 | mitch0-zZ | grom: if there is, then both ktm/omen should work. if not, the skellies could screw it up |
| 14:46.45 | cncfanatics | I might want to check it out then, sec |
| 14:46.50 | cncfanatics | updating |
| 14:47.22 | cncfanatics | heh I see |
| 14:47.26 | grom358 | there is a reset when he lands |
| 14:47.27 | cncfanatics | cwdg messed with my externals |
| 14:47.34 | cncfanatics | I didnt update those changes yet |
| 14:47.39 | cncfanatics | why did he even mess with them in the first place ? |
| 14:47.48 | grom358 | but now u mention it I did know that tank seemed to have a lot of aggro straight after the reset (like 10k) |
| 14:48.13 | mitch0-zZ | cnc: probly thought it a good idea to remove the "empty" lib folder :) |
| 14:48.16 | cncfanatics | could someone tell me why cwdg deleted my libs ? |
| 14:48.23 | cncfanatics | what an idiot ... |
| 14:48.30 | mitch0-zZ | cnc: that's one of the reasons I prefer setting my externals on the main folder :) |
| 14:48.41 | cncfanatics | what an IDIOT |
| 14:48.45 | cncfanatics | he made it lower case too |
| 14:48.57 | mitch0-zZ | case doesn't matter afaik |
| 14:49.01 | cncfanatics | linux |
| 14:49.02 | cncfanatics | ;) |
| 14:49.03 | cncfanatics | does |
| 14:49.08 | cncfanatics | and he also set em all to dev.wowace.com |
| 14:49.09 | cncfanatics | IDIOT |
| 14:49.18 | mitch0-zZ | well, on linux you SHOULD bloody use lowercase |
| 14:49.28 | mitch0-zZ | and not all-caps or some such horror |
| 14:49.30 | cncfanatics | I like to PascalCaps my stuff |
| 14:49.38 | cncfanatics | PascalCase* even |
| 14:49.55 | mitch0-zZ | cnc: well, he kept the addon folders PascalCased |
| 14:50.02 | cncfanatics | no |
| 14:50.05 | cncfanatics | its libs now, all lowercase |
| 14:50.21 | cncfanatics | how to set the externals property on the actual main folder ? |
| 14:50.24 | mitch0-zZ | well, that should be like that :) |
| 14:50.36 | mitch0-zZ | the addon folders are uglified enough :) |
| 14:50.49 | cncfanatics | my folders are fine |
| 14:50.51 | cncfanatics | :) |
| 14:51.48 | mitch0-zZ | it's all your fault anyway |
| 14:52.35 | cncfanatics | oh, yea, someone commiting wrong to my addon is all my fault, ur right :) |
| 14:53.01 | mitch0-zZ | yeah, placing svn:externals on Libs/ :) |
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| 14:54.39 | cncfanatics | aint that what everyone does ? |
| 14:55.59 | mitch0-zZ | no |
| 14:56.07 | mitch0-zZ | <- puts it on the addons folder |
| 14:56.22 | cncfanatics | how would I set my property then ? |
| 14:56.36 | cncfanatics | propset svn:externals -F Externals . |
| 14:56.41 | cncfanatics | what would be in the Externals file ? |
| 14:56.46 | mitch0-zZ | the same? except prefix the folders with libs/? |
| 14:56.49 | cncfanatics | same but with Libs/ added in front I supose ? |
| 14:56.53 | CIA-14 | 03lilcure * r47525 10DuraRecolor/ (Core.lua DuraRecolor.toc): DuraRecolor: Small timing changes on flash, upgrade to 0.2 |
| 14:57.29 | mitch0-zZ | yep |
| 14:58.03 | mitch0-zZ | and as far as I know you don't have to commit the empty Libs dir in this case, but I haven't actually tried it (yet) |
| 14:58.56 | cncfanatics | heh |
| 14:58.59 | cncfanatics | u didnt try it, great |
| 14:59.01 | cncfanatics | lets try it then |
| 14:59.22 | mitch0-zZ | I can't test it as I'm routed thru some weird tunneling and thus I can't update externals :) |
| 14:59.38 | mitch0-zZ | I'm updating from dev.wowace.com:9080 :) |
| 14:59.51 | mitch0-zZ | where dev.wowace.com resolves to a local IP |
| 15:00.03 | cncfanatics | how to lock my addon folder down so only I can edit it btw ? |
| 15:00.15 | cncfanatics | I dont want more idiots messing with it |
| 15:00.25 | kenlyric | uh. |
| 15:00.28 | kenlyric | google code |
| 15:00.36 | mitch0-zZ | move to google-code as the rest of the whiners |
| 15:01.06 | cncfanatics | u can lock down folders on WoWace |
| 15:01.09 | cncfanatics | ckknight does it for Ace2 :p |
| 15:01.48 | Funkeh` | ace2 is locked to the ace developer team |
| 15:01.53 | Funkeh` | not only ckknight |
| 15:02.07 | Funkeh` | Ace does not revolve around him although people seem to think |
| 15:02.25 | CIA-14 | 03lilcure * r47526 10TunnelVision/ (. Core.lua Locale-enUS.lua TunnelVision.toc): TunnelVision: Initial Import into SVN |
| 15:02.25 | cncfanatics | I said ckknight does it cuz I know he can acecss it |
| 15:02.32 | cncfanatics | not cuz he's the only one master developer :p |
| 15:02.42 | Funkeh` | ok |
| 15:02.49 | mitch0-zZ | also, it's locked 'cos it's kinda bad if bad things happen there (all dependent addons break and such) |
| 15:03.05 | mitch0-zZ | not that it saved it from some of ckk's commits :) |
| 15:03.15 | Funkeh` | lolz |
| 15:03.22 | nevcairiel | lol mitch0-zZ |
| 15:03.25 | nevcairiel | :) |
| 15:06.16 | cncfanatics | if Ace2 can be locked I dont see why other folders couldnt be if requested :) |
| 15:06.59 | Funkeh` | theres several locked I'm sure |
| 15:07.01 | Funkeh` | like SCT |
| 15:07.17 | Funkeh` | Its ridiculous imo, but some people are like that. |
| 15:07.28 | cncfanatics | well, if someone is messing & breaking ur addon |
| 15:07.31 | cncfanatics | I think its normal |
| 15:07.39 | Funkeh` | Then you just revert it |
| 15:07.40 | nevcairiel | crybaby |
| 15:07.41 | nevcairiel | :P |
| 15:07.50 | Funkeh` | If they do it continually you talk to kaelten and remove their svn. |
| 15:07.56 | cncfanatics | true enough |
| 15:08.14 | mitch0-zZ | I'm pretty sure it wasn't intentional... |
| 15:08.24 | Funkeh` | What wasn't? |
| 15:08.27 | mitch0-zZ | cwdg is a koKR or somesuch localizer |
| 15:08.36 | mitch0-zZ | probly just made a mistake |
| 15:08.47 | cncfanatics | deleting a libs folder is a weird mistake though :) |
| 15:08.50 | mitch0-zZ | and didn't know how to revert it properly |
| 15:08.51 | cncfanatics | probably ment good though |
| 15:09.10 | cncfanatics | i'm guessing he just though he'd remove an empty folder to help |
| 15:09.42 | CIA-14 | 03lilcure * r47527 10TunnelVision/: TunnelVision: Added Externals Properties |
| 15:09.58 | Funkeh` | cwdg is a shared account among a chinese game translation community. |
| 15:10.08 | cncfanatics | :o |
| 15:10.09 | Funkeh` | So not everyone will know exactly what they are doing. |
| 15:10.13 | *** join/#wowace Geffron (i=restored@felfri.campus.luth.se) |
| 15:10.14 | cncfanatics | I see |
| 15:10.21 | cncfanatics | shouldnt rights of that acc be limited then though ? :o |
| 15:10.46 | Funkeh` | I can't read chinese so I can't read their forum. |
| 15:10.51 | Funkeh` | But its a pretty big community. |
| 15:11.03 | kenlyric | is this one where they deleted the libs folder from baggins? |
| 15:11.17 | kenlyric | wait, it wasn't baggins... it was one of those at the top. |
| 15:11.21 | kenlyric | work brain work! |
| 15:11.57 | kenlyric | there was one a few weeks back where they removed UTF8 from a mod. Which seemed odd for chinese translators :) |
| 15:12.07 | CIA-14 | 03lilcure * r47528 10TunnelVision/: TunnelVision: Externals Typo |
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| 15:12.46 | Funkeh` | They don't do that. |
| 15:12.50 | Funkeh` | Shitty editors do that. |
| 15:12.56 | mitch0-zZ | kenlyric: what do you mean by "removed UTF8"? saved the files in some weird windows encoding? |
| 15:12.59 | Funkeh` | The people that commit it are usually unaware of this. |
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| 15:13.17 | kenlyric | no, removed the UTF8 lib. |
| 15:13.24 | Funkeh` | Oh that. |
| 15:13.25 | nevcairiel | they accidently saved as ANSI |
| 15:13.32 | Funkeh` | I remember that, I'm not sure why he/she did it. |
| 15:13.34 | nevcairiel | they do that alot |
| 15:13.35 | nevcairiel | :P |
| 15:13.42 | mitch0-zZ | UTF8 lib? |
| 15:13.43 | Funkeh` | yeah nevcairiel |
| 15:13.50 | kenlyric | I think it was grid. |
| 15:13.53 | Funkeh` | I think I hold the top Babble commits for changing file format back to UTF |
| 15:14.02 | nevcairiel | hehe |
| 15:14.09 | kenlyric | one of the mods that has a non-ace lib in it, so the lib is distributed even if you disemebed. |
| 15:14.19 | Funkeh` | cartographer |
| 15:14.27 | Funkeh` | and grid use UTF-8 lib |
| 15:14.45 | Funkeh` | its pastamancer's lib afaik. |
| 15:14.55 | pastamancer | it is |
| 15:15.06 | mitch0-zZ | pasta: what does it do? |
| 15:16.00 | *** join/#wowace Darkbusko (n=Korben@c83-250-141-15.bredband.comhem.se) |
| 15:16.04 | pastamancer | it provides a strlen and strsub that work on UTF8 characters instead of bytes like the normal strlen and strsub |
| 15:16.05 | Mecdemort | wow it's 10am but the way i've been sleeping it seems like it should be 5pm already |
| 15:16.17 | Darkbusko | Hi anyone guru on the addon fubar |
| 15:16.23 | mitch0-zZ | ah |
| 15:16.36 | CIA-14 | 03lilcure * r47529 10TunnelVision/ (. TunnelVision.toc): TunnelVision: Removed WindowLib and fixed a external entry |
| 15:18.14 | pastamancer | mitch0-zZ: http://grid.13th-floor.org/svn/trunk/UTF8/utf8.lua |
| 15:21.52 | CIA-14 | 03ulic * r47530 10ClosetGnome_Mount/ClosetGnome_Mount.lua: ClosetGnome_Mount: Now does not equip Mount set when in Arenas. |
| 15:23.16 | Funkeh` | wow-partial-1.MPQ Share Ration: 36.606 Uploaded 2.67GB Size:74.00MB haha |
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| 15:23.30 | nevcairiel | lol |
| 15:24.25 | cncfanatics | rofl |
| 15:24.29 | cncfanatics | WoW eating bandwith :p |
| 15:24.44 | Funkeh` | Nah thats my local torrent client. |
| 15:24.50 | kenlyric | mine crashed and won't start up again. |
| 15:24.55 | Funkeh` | Don't think the wow client could ever get that much. |
| 15:24.59 | kenlyric | even manually. |
| 15:25.12 | Funkeh` | Use a torrent client? |
| 15:25.21 | kenlyric | wait, did they push another 2.2 prepatch? |
| 15:25.25 | kenlyric | mine was at 50mb |
| 15:25.37 | Funkeh` | no the US one is 50 EU one is 70 |
| 15:25.38 | Darkbusko | as far as i know only a 74 mb ibne |
| 15:25.47 | Darkbusko | yea thts euro |
| 15:26.25 | Darkbusko | my good why do i allways find mem hogging addons :( |
| 15:27.19 | Wobin | lucky I guess |
| 15:27.36 | Darkbusko | :P |
| 15:27.43 | Darkbusko | my fubar was up to 25mb >_< |
| 15:27.47 | Darkbusko | like wtf :P |
| 15:28.14 | sb | mh.. trying again - patch tomorrow? :p |
| 15:28.19 | sb | any us announcements? |
| 15:28.29 | nevcairiel | no |
| 15:28.40 | nevcairiel | prolly another week |
| 15:28.43 | Funkeh` | I guess you use embeds Darkbusko? rofl. |
| 15:28.48 | *** join/#wowace Alari (n=alarisha@host-212-158-206-51.bulldogdsl.com) |
| 15:28.54 | Darkbusko | whats that |
| 15:28.57 | Darkbusko | Funkeh`? |
| 15:29.00 | nevcairiel | even with embeds 25mb is alot |
| 15:29.23 | Funkeh` | Thats when the first addons alphabetically that you have loaded loads a bunch of librarys that all your addons most likely use, and gets blamed for their usage. |
| 15:29.26 | Darkbusko | yea and i found this cool addon called recount |
| 15:29.36 | nevcairiel | recount is a memory whore :P |
| 15:29.40 | Darkbusko | yea |
| 15:29.48 | Darkbusko | i tuned off the time thing |
| 15:29.53 | Funkeh` | i.e. flase results |
| 15:29.53 | Darkbusko | was up to 35mb |
| 15:29.56 | Funkeh` | false* |
| 15:29.59 | CIA-14 | 03poull * r47531 10NoWeapons/NoWeapons.lua: NoWeapons: Fixed 2h weapons triggering no off-hand message. |
| 15:30.11 | Darkbusko | for a SSC raid :P |
| 15:30.15 | Darkbusko | but its cool data |
| 15:30.22 | Funkeh` | Memory usage doesn't really matter. |
| 15:30.29 | Funkeh` | Its memory growth you want to be worried about. |
| 15:30.39 | Darkbusko | we,, |
| 15:30.40 | sb | ,3 recount |
| 15:30.41 | sb | <3 |
| 15:30.44 | Darkbusko | well |
| 15:30.52 | Funkeh` | KiB/s |
| 15:30.58 | Darkbusko | Funkeh` i have around 45 mb intial and it was up to 100 :P |
| 15:31.15 | Darkbusko | avg now is 3kib/s |
| 15:31.19 | Funkeh` | and if that was at 2KiB/s it would make no difference to your system |
| 15:31.37 | sb | sure it is 100mb |
| 15:31.41 | sb | after 4h ssc |
| 15:31.46 | Funkeh` | High growth will stress the system more reducing fps and such. |
| 15:31.46 | Darkbusko | ^^ |
| 15:31.49 | CIA-14 | 03lilcure * r47532 10TunnelVision/TunnelVision.toc: |
| 15:31.49 | CIA-14 | TunnelVision: initial commit |
| 15:31.49 | CIA-14 | - A mod to assist healers in seeing messages when people are about to die. |
| 15:32.15 | Darkbusko | ok so basicly addons load in alfa order ? |
| 15:32.16 | Funkeh` | I have 15KiB/s in combat during raids |
| 15:32.21 | Funkeh` | Yes. |
| 15:32.29 | Darkbusko | meaning ag_UnitFrames would be first for me |
| 15:32.36 | Funkeh` | Yes. |
| 15:33.00 | Darkbusko | still cant see why fubar is this high now |
| 15:33.05 | Darkbusko | it wasent this high before |
| 15:33.33 | Funkeh` | Probably a new addon you have thats using a library that fubar also uses. |
| 15:33.56 | Funkeh` | Since it loaded in Fubar first before anything else, all usage for that library gets blamed on fubar. |
| 15:34.29 | Funkeh` | If you really want accurate results and are keen to find out, theres lots of guides on the forum of how to make your addons use standalone libraries, do some searching. |
| 15:34.37 | Funkeh` | anyway, /afk |
| 15:34.44 | Darkbusko | ok thanx m8 |
| 15:35.34 | cncfanatics | Nargiddley ping |
| 15:35.42 | Darkbusko | 'Lol wonder if !!!StandaloneLibraries and !!!LeaveMeAloneLibraries might be that :P |
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| 15:38.22 | Alari | Hey peeps, I have a question about local variables - any local variable experts around? :) |
| 15:38.35 | pastamancer | just ask |
| 15:38.38 | pastamancer | ~ata |
| 15:38.39 | purl | i guess ata is Analogue Terminal Adapter which provides an FXS and/or FXO and ethernet, see http://www.voip-info.org/wiki/view/ATA |
| 15:38.42 | pastamancer | hmm |
| 15:38.46 | pastamancer | wrong one |
| 15:38.55 | ulic | ~ask |
| 15:38.56 | purl | Questions in the channel should be specific, informative, complete, concise, and on-topic. Don't ask if you can ask a question first. Don't ask if a person is there, just ask what you intended to ask them. Better questions more frequently yield better answers. We are all here voluntarily or against our will. |
| 15:39.05 | pastamancer | that's what I was looking for |
| 15:39.22 | Alari | if I have two files, say, foo.lua and foo2.lua, and I declare some local variables in foo.lua, will they be available in foo2.lua? |
| 15:39.47 | nevcairiel | no |
| 15:39.52 | nevcairiel | thats the point of local |
| 15:40.14 | Alari | yeah, I thought not, but I kept seeing 'local to your addon' in all the wiki pages |
| 15:40.25 | Alari | so I wondered if they were local for all files in your addon etc |
| 15:41.13 | cncfanatics | where's Nargiddley ? |
| 15:41.50 | Alari | so... if I am using a db in foo.lua and store variables I want foo2.lua to use in that db, is that bad/slow? |
| 15:42.00 | cncfanatics | ~seen Nargiddley |
| 15:42.01 | purl | nargiddley <n=narg@203-97-236-74.cable.telstraclear.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 3h 40m ago, saying: 'hm yeah, so it wouldnt work anyway'. |
| 15:42.57 | odt | what's a good lightweight item search addon? |
| 15:43.11 | odt | something i could just type into "primal nether" and it would tell me if i have any |
| 15:43.22 | pastamancer | odt: I use sanity for that |
| 15:44.40 | Hjalte | odt, I dont know if its lightweight, but like pastamancer, i also use sanity.. the second version. |
| 15:44.47 | Alari | pastamancer: what is foo2 is a module of foo? |
| 15:44.52 | Alari | what if* |
| 15:45.32 | Gngsk | What is life in a federal prison like? |
| 15:45.46 | pastamancer | Alari: what are you trying to do? |
| 15:45.57 | pb_ee1 | Like in pvp when you are fighting against a warlock |
| 15:46.12 | pb_ee1 | hopeless. |
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| 15:46.19 | CIA-14 | 03ascalia * r47534 10AtlasLoot/ (Constants/constants.de.lua Instances/instances.de.lua): |
| 15:46.19 | CIA-14 | AtlasLoot: |
| 15:46.19 | CIA-14 | - updated German files |
| 15:46.23 | CIA-14 | 03cncfanatics * r47533 10FlexBar2/ (. Core.lua Layout/Layout.lua Textsubs/Textsubs.lua libs/): |
| 15:46.23 | CIA-14 | FlexBar2 |
| 15:46.23 | CIA-14 | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:46.25 | CIA-14 | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:46.40 | Alari | pastamancer: I am trying to see what the point is in modules vs just bunging in extra files and calling them in the .toc |
| 15:47.00 | Alari | I assumed it had something to do with variable sharing |
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| 15:47.28 | charon | hmm something that's bothered me for a while now: i use grid for raid frames and pitbull for the rest. now every time i leave a raid and join a party, i have to /rl to see the party frames. any way to get around that? |
| 15:48.49 | pastamancer | Alari: AceModuleCore? |
| 15:48.51 | cncfanatics | mitch0-zZ, it works, thanks |
| 15:50.07 | Alari | pastamancer: yeah. I have tried to find out what the point is in using modules, but I can't find a simple comparison of modules vs just extra files |
| 15:50.59 | cncfanatics | Alari, Extra files act the same way as modules, except u cant disable them without deleting them |
| 15:51.20 | pastamancer | Alari: AceModuleCore ensures that modules inherit from the given class prototype and gives the 'core' the ability to iterate and en/disable modules |
| 15:51.52 | CIA-14 | 03cncfanatics * r47535 10FlexBar2/Core.lua: FlexBar2: Disabled debugging |
| 15:53.02 | Alari | pastamancer, cncfanatics: so the only advantage is that you can enable/disable them 'on the fly'? |
| 15:54.12 | cncfanatics | if with modules you mean extra addon vs extra file yes |
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| 15:56.01 | Alari | ok, so in my addon, Auditor, I have a 'module', which is an extra file in the addon, that does Cash Notification stuff. would there be any point whatsoever in making it a proper module, rather than a file called in the .toc? |
| 15:56.17 | CIA-14 | 03cncfanatics * r47536 10FlexBar2/Layout/Layout.lua: |
| 15:56.17 | CIA-14 | FlexBar2: |
| 15:56.18 | CIA-14 | Layout.lua: |
| 15:56.18 | CIA-14 | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:59.36 | pastamancer | if you have to ask, then probably not |
| 16:01.07 | Alari | I feel all warm inside from your implied praise :P |
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| 16:01.37 | Alari | I'm asking because I am trying to understand, dude |
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| 16:04.33 | cncfanatic1 | back |
| 16:04.36 | cncfanatic1 | damn disconnects |
| 16:04.39 | cncfanatic1 | and I got a ghost ... |
| 16:04.41 | cncfanatic1 | be gone ghost |
| 16:07.59 | Alari | ok, one last question - when you access a variable like foo.db.profile.whatEver in a function, is it much slower than a local? would it be quicker to copy that into a local variable and then do operations on the local? |
| 16:08.01 | pastamancer | Alari: I don't know enough (well, hardly anything) about your addon, so I can't say if it would benefit from taking a more modular approach. If it's just the one thing, then probably not. If you have a core that contains/manages a pile of data and have a bunch of things that interact with that core through a well-defined api, then perhaps modules are the way to go |
| 16:08.40 | Alari | pastamancer: thanks, that makes much more sense now :) |
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| 16:09.59 | pastamancer | and I'd local foo but not local whatever = food.db.... |
| 16:11.49 | Alari | ok, I think that makes sense, thanks a lot for your help pastamancer and cncfanatics :) |
| 16:13.13 | CIA-14 | 03lilcure * r47537 10TunnelVision/ (. TunnelVision.toc): TunnelVision: externals changes |
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| 16:13.51 | LAG|Domo | Is there an addon that shows which recipes of your profession you don't have yet? |
| 16:14.01 | LAG|Domo | And it not, why not! |
| 16:14.05 | LAG|Domo | if* |
| 16:15.03 | nevcairiel | because you cannot know all recipes, without datamining them before, and that would be alot of data for a too unimportant task :P |
| 16:15.42 | cncfanatics | you could keep a database of all recipes |
| 16:15.43 | cncfanatics | but thats silly |
| 16:15.46 | LAG|Domo | Well it shouldn't be too hard to implement a database, with for example wowhead as source. |
| 16:15.59 | cncfanatics | memory usage LAG|DOMO ? :p |
| 16:16.18 | nevcairiel | you could still simply search the AH and wowhead for recipes you still need =) |
| 16:16.26 | LAG|Domo | If I look at addons like AtlasLoot, it should be possible to implement a "checklist" system on a database like that. |
| 16:16.35 | LAG|Domo | But yeah, I can see the memory issue. |
| 16:16.54 | cncfanatics | AtlasLoot only keeps itemIds |
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| 16:18.26 | LAG|Domo | Well |
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| 16:18.35 | LAG|Domo | Recipes have itemids |
| 16:18.43 | Xinhuan | that addon is called Recipe Radar i think |
| 16:18.46 | LAG|Domo | And trainer based recipes don't need to be remembered anyway |
| 16:18.54 | Xinhuan | shows you all the ones you don't have |
| 16:18.58 | LAG|Domo | Awesome |
| 16:19.01 | LAG|Domo | Exactly what I need |
| 16:19.05 | Xinhuan | it is NOT ace2 i think |
| 16:19.08 | Xinhuan | but try searching for it |
| 16:19.27 | cncfanatics | LAG|Domo doing it that way might cause you to not actualy know what recipe you don't have |
| 16:19.31 | cncfanatics | if its not avail on ur server |
| 16:19.33 | cncfanatics | which is quite silly |
| 16:19.38 | Xinhuan | it will list all the recipes you don't have/don't know and it will show you where to get them |
| 16:19.43 | LAG|Domo | http://wow.curse.com/downloads/details/2955/ |
| 16:19.45 | LAG|Domo | Ta |
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| 16:24.47 | CIA-14 | 03sinaloit * r47538 10TerminusAddons/ (8 files in 4 dirs): |
| 16:24.47 | CIA-14 | TerminusAddons: initial commit |
| 16:24.47 | CIA-14 | - Compilation |
| 16:25.25 | Xinhuan | are mod compilations allowed on wowace? :o |
| 16:26.43 | nevcairiel | the svn is for development, not pure distribution |
| 16:27.08 | Xinhuan | so that prev commit 3 lines up isn't really allowed? |
| 16:27.40 | cncfanatics | people should REALLY be on this chan when doing inititial commits |
| 16:27.57 | CIA-14 | 03cwdg * r47539 10Babble-2.2/Babble-Faction-2.2/Babble-Faction-2.2.lua: |
| 16:27.57 | CIA-14 | Babble-2.2: |
| 16:27.57 | CIA-14 | -update zhCN local for faction |
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| 16:28.42 | kenlyric | uncommit! |
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| 16:33.57 | Pkekyo | anyome remember who the author of Classtimers is? |
| 16:34.31 | ulic | I wanna say ominous |
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| 16:35.12 | kadrahil | anyone remember which mod shows in the tooltip what you looted an item from? |
| 16:35.43 | Pkekyo | hmm, could it be WhoDrop? |
| 16:36.10 | CIA-14 | 03cwdg * r47540 10Babble-2.2/Babble-Fish-2.2/Babble-Fish-2.2.lua: |
| 16:36.10 | CIA-14 | Babble-2.2: |
| 16:36.10 | CIA-14 | -update zhCN local for fish |
| 16:36.58 | sag_ich_nicht | ckk...damnit |
| 16:37.16 | durcyn | kadrahil: Mendeleev will show some of that information from PT |
| 16:38.15 | CIA-14 | 03sinaloit * r47541 10TerminusAddons/: Removed file/folder |
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| 16:40.12 | sag_ich_nicht | heh |
| 16:40.23 | sag_ich_nicht | who told sinaloit |
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| 16:46.53 | Pkekyo | son of a cunt, for some reason I can't get wow to run at more than 1fps today |
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| 16:47.48 | sag_ich_nicht | Pkekyo the solution to your problem is a simple slashcommand: /camp |
| 16:48.04 | Pkekyo | no |
| 16:48.07 | sag_ich_nicht | yes |
| 16:48.07 | CIA-14 | 03cncfanatics * r47542 10FlexBar2/ (Core.lua Layout/Layout.lua): (log message trimmed) |
| 16:48.07 | CIA-14 | FlexBar2: |
| 16:48.07 | CIA-14 | Core.lua: |
| 16:48.07 | CIA-14 | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:48.07 | CIA-14 | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:48.08 | sag_ich_nicht | <2 |
| 16:48.08 | CIA-14 | Layout.lua |
| 16:48.10 | CIA-14 | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:48.11 | sag_ich_nicht | *<3 |
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| 16:49.49 | CIA-14 | 03cncfanatics * r47543 10FlexBar2/Core.lua: |
| 16:49.49 | CIA-14 | FlexBar2: |
| 16:49.49 | CIA-14 | Core.lua: |
| 16:49.49 | CIA-14 | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:49.57 | cncfanatics | heh, lots of commits lately |
| 16:49.59 | cncfanatics | sorry for the spam |
| 16:50.16 | Pkekyo | it has something to do with windowed mode >.< |
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| 16:51.24 | sag_ich_nicht | well stop using windowed mode then :P |
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| 16:52.33 | Nickenyfiken | Anyone tried tweakhub? |
| 16:52.41 | Pkekyo | sag_ich_nicht: but that fucked up my entire alt+tab-based existence |
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| 16:55.35 | sag_ich_nicht | Pkekyo lol get a better PC if alt + tabbing lags for you |
| 16:55.36 | sag_ich_nicht | :O |
| 16:58.29 | Pkekyo | sag_ich_nicht: alt+tabbing does not lag in general, but minimizing wow when not in windowed mode is too slow |
| 17:01.33 | Fisker- | SURPRISE |
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| 17:01.43 | cncfanatics | yaaay Fisker- the TROLLLLLL is baaaack |
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| 17:02.43 | Xinhuan | you can run wow in maximised window mode |
| 17:02.59 | Xinhuan | maybe that might help ;p |
| 17:03.07 | cncfanatics | u can also get linxu |
| 17:03.13 | cncfanatics | and use workspaces |
| 17:03.26 | cncfanatics | and use the arrowkeys to change workspaces without wow noticing it aint on the foreground anymore |
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| 17:11.14 | Pkekyo | Xinhuan: that's what I'm doing |
| 17:11.30 | Pkekyo | cncfanatics: simply can't be arsed |
| 17:12.38 | cncfanatics | Pkekyo, it wasnt ment seriously either |
| 17:12.41 | cncfanatics | btw Fisker- |
| 17:12.46 | cncfanatics | ~slap Fisker- |
| 17:12.47 | purl | ACTION slaps Fisker-, keep your grubby fingers to yourself! |
| 17:12.49 | cncfanatics | ~kill Fisker- |
| 17:12.50 | purl | ACTION shoots a magneto-ionized pseudoneutron gun at Fisker- |
| 17:13.09 | kadrahil | HEY FISKER I THINK CNC HAS A THING FOR YOU |
| 17:14.04 | Chompers | he totally wants to do you |
| 17:14.17 | Chompers | like, totally |
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| 17:18.26 | Funkeh` | I don't blame him. |
| 17:18.32 | Funkeh` | I want to do Fisker- also. |
| 17:18.48 | Funkeh` | I mean, who wouldn't. |
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| 17:19.51 | kadrahil | heh |
| 17:20.49 | Silowyi | something in Threat, ThreatToKTM or KTM was broken the other day |
| 17:22.03 | Silowyi | I had to disable KTM because it was profiling at something like 30% of the game's CPU usage when not in a group or raid... |
| 17:22.03 | Silowyi | gg netsplit |
| 17:22.33 | cncfanatics | Silowyi: thats why wowace peeps made Omen |
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| 17:22.36 | cncfanatics | cuz KTM sucks :) |
| 17:22.57 | Silowyi | I still had KTM around because Omen has seriously messed up for our guild on two separate Gruul kills |
| 17:23.06 | Funkeh` | Yeah, probably because you are using ktm.. |
| 17:23.18 | Silowyi | no |
| 17:23.23 | Silowyi | read again :P |
| 17:23.29 | Funkeh` | I've never had any problems with it, every person that reports problems always has someone using ktm in their raid. |
| 17:23.30 | Silowyi | Omen messed up |
| 17:23.31 | Funkeh` | so |
| 17:23.33 | Silowyi | so we went back to KTM |
| 17:23.36 | Silowyi | ah |
| 17:23.38 | Silowyi | that's possible |
| 17:23.43 | Silowyi | and tbh, on fights like Void Reaver with his knockback, KTM still gives much more reliable data too. |
| 17:23.57 | Silowyi | half the time all four of the tanks aren't even shown in the top ten on Omen. |
| 17:24.02 | Funkeh` | We switched to omen because of VR, lol... |
| 17:24.09 | Silowyi | weird |
| 17:24.38 | Silowyi | most of the guild has switched completely to omen now anyway |
| 17:24.58 | Silowyi | and this latest mess with KTM was its death knell for me |
| 17:25.36 | Funkeh` | The sooner we get 3.0 the better for threat meters :) |
| 17:27.00 | Fatalis`timeout | can someone give me the name of the addon that measures addon load time, i forgot it |
| 17:27.36 | Funkeh` | Warmup |
| 17:27.44 | Fatalis`timeout | thanks |
| 17:27.44 | Funkeh` | But it increases addon loadup itself ;) |
| 17:27.56 | cncfanatics | meh, blizz is exagerating with the UI |
| 17:27.58 | sag_ich_nicht | [18:58] <Pkekyo> sag_ich_nicht: alt+tabbing does not lag in general, but minimizing wow when not in windowed mode is too slow <--i told you, it lags. for me, it's instant, and i play in fullscreen. |
| 17:28.05 | cncfanatics | having threat data avail is too much imo |
| 17:28.12 | cncfanatics | not something the players should know |
| 17:28.17 | Xinhuan | whats wrong with omen on VR? |
| 17:28.21 | cncfanatics | no |
| 17:28.22 | cncfanatics | nothing |
| 17:28.34 | cncfanatics | I mean, blizz shldnt tell us how much threat we have |
| 17:28.37 | Funkeh` | Why is it too much? |
| 17:28.40 | cncfanatics | we should find out by ourselves like we currently do |
| 17:28.45 | Funkeh` | Its a thing blizz have made critical to encounters now |
| 17:28.52 | cncfanatics | they shouldnt have in the first place |
| 17:28.53 | Funkeh` | It also needs to be read and interpreted. |
| 17:28.59 | sag_ich_nicht | [19:23] <Silowyi> half the time all four of the tanks aren't even shown in the top ten on Omen. <--this has been fixed in a recent commit, but there is still a bug in omen SOMEWHERE that is causing it to now show your own threat after zoning, which is only fixed by /reloadui |
| 17:29.00 | cncfanatics | they made it critical cuz of addons like KTM :) |
| 17:29.01 | sag_ich_nicht | Antiarc |
| 17:29.02 | sag_ich_nicht | YOU HEAR ME? |
| 17:29.20 | Xinhuan | i doubt blizzard will tell you how much threat you have exactly, they are more likely to just have an API that returns you a RED, YELLOW or GREEN threat level in relation to the tank lol |
| 17:29.31 | Funkeh` | cncfanatics: no.... |
| 17:29.34 | cncfanatics | that wld be ok for me |
| 17:29.46 | sag_ich_nicht | we get unique enemy identifiers in 2.4 |
| 17:29.46 | sag_ich_nicht | so |
| 17:29.49 | Funkeh` | cncfanatics: blizz made it critical because of encounters like VR, Grull and Gurtogg. |
| 17:29.49 | sag_ich_nicht | fuck that. |
| 17:30.07 | Funkeh` | cncfanatics: Most guilds didn't use threat meters untill TBC encounters. |
| 17:30.15 | Silowyi | Blizzard has in fact balanced existing raid encounters around the use of the most prevalent addons. |
| 17:30.18 | Funkeh` | cncfanatics: Since they became so threat critical. |
| 17:30.31 | Silowyi | it's not just threat critical |
| 17:30.34 | cncfanatics | Funkeh` |
| 17:30.38 | cncfanatics | blizz made it critical because of encounters like VR, Grull and Gurtogg. |
| 17:30.41 | cncfanatics | that doesnt make sense |
| 17:30.41 | Xinhuan | VR isn't exactly threat critical |
| 17:30.47 | cncfanatics | blizzard made these encounters in the first place |
| 17:30.52 | Funkeh` | cncfanatics: how doesn't it make sense? |
| 17:30.53 | Xinhuan | if all your hunters use misdirect every time its up |
| 17:30.53 | Silowyi | they combine razor-edge threat management with aggressive time limits. |
| 17:31.03 | Xinhuan | the healers just has to switch heal quickly |
| 17:31.04 | cncfanatics | blizzard made those encounters |
| 17:31.10 | Funkeh` | cncfanatics: Blizzard made them threat critical, so threat meters were distributed |
| 17:31.19 | Funkeh` | cncfanatics: try Grutogg without threat meters. |
| 17:31.24 | cncfanatics | no no, threat meters were distributed, so blizzard made more threat sensitive encounters |
| 17:31.29 | Xinhuan | ryes |
| 17:31.34 | Funkeh` | lol? |
| 17:31.37 | Silowyi | cncfanatics has it right. |
| 17:31.45 | Funkeh` | Why would blizz want to make a threat meter more critical? |
| 17:31.52 | Silowyi | they don't... |
| 17:32.05 | Funkeh` | Silowyi: Can you read? |
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| 17:32.18 | Funkeh` | Silowyi: You are not interpretting cncfanatics comments properly. |
| 17:32.27 | Xinhuan | i think blizzard wants to make encounters more interesting - and so adding a threat meter would make it more interesting |
| 17:32.31 | Silowyi | Funkeh`: Yes, I can also follow a stream of logical arguments which it appears you cannot. |
| 17:32.36 | Xinhuan | and allow for more room in designing more encounters |
| 17:32.43 | cncfanatics | let me clarify myself |
| 17:32.44 | Silowyi | its the same as consumables |
| 17:32.49 | Silowyi | people use them |
| 17:32.53 | Silowyi | they trivialize encounters |
| 17:32.56 | Funkeh` | Silowyi: I'm fully capable of that, you are clearly not fully capable of comprehending these statements. |
| 17:33.02 | Silowyi | Blizzard makes harder encounters that aren't trivialized by them. |
| 17:33.09 | cncfanatics | encounters pre-TBC were not very threat sensitive, and the threat sensitive encounters were few, having a threat meter made them stupidly easy |
| 17:33.11 | Silowyi | People use threat meters |
| 17:33.15 | Funkeh` | Did you even do Gruul back in the day when TBC has jsut been released? |
| 17:33.20 | Silowyi | Threat meters trivalize encounters |
| 17:33.26 | Funkeh` | Thats when my guild started using them because of that encounter. |
| 17:33.35 | cncfanatics | Funkey` thats the point |
| 17:33.45 | cncfanatics | if gruul was possible without threat meter, it'd be stupidly easy with one |
| 17:33.50 | Funkeh` | So it is infact blizz's fault for making the encounter so bitchy about threat, that we need to use meters to prevent endless wiping. |
| 17:33.55 | Silowyi | Blizzard makes encounters that require aggressive threat management that challenges guilds even in the presence of threat meters. |
| 17:34.15 | Funkeh` | cncfanatics: Thats not what I'm saying, I'm talking about the actual design of the encounter. |
| 17:34.34 | Funkeh` | cncfanatics: It is perfectly plausable to make an encounter that doesn't evolve around threat at all. |
| 17:34.48 | Funkeh` | cncfanatics: But blizzard has increased the amount of encounters that are threat sensitive. |
| 17:34.55 | Silowyi | Funkeh`: However it appears that I in fact did interpret cncfanatics remarks correctly so stfu, I gonna go kill Netherwing stuff now :P |
| 17:34.58 | Funkeh` | Making threat meters more of a part of raiding. |
| 17:35.07 | cncfanatics | Funkeh` supose this |
| 17:35.10 | Funkeh` | 'so stfu' grow up please |
| 17:35.18 | cncfanatics | an encounter is *slightly* threat sensitive |
| 17:35.31 | Silowyi | cause "grow up please" is so much more mature a statement ^_^ |
| 17:35.32 | cncfanatics | u can do it without threat meter but there's the possibility it goes bad then |
| 17:35.36 | Funkeh` | cncfanatics: Since blizz want to 'reduce the amount of required addons' they build them in. |
| 17:35.41 | cncfanatics | what'd happen if u have a threat meter ? it'll be stupidly easy |
| 17:35.43 | Funkeh` | Silowyi: It is. |
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| 17:36.09 | Xinhuan | if blizzatf is giving us a threat meter, it means they will design many many more threat sensitive encounters in the future |
| 17:36.10 | Funkeh` | cncfanatics: back to the point, I don't believe its any real giveaway by giving us threat meters. |
| 17:36.11 | Xinhuan | and that sucks |
| 17:36.12 | Xinhuan | :( |
| 17:36.26 | Shirik | l2payattentiontothreat? :P |
| 17:36.32 | Funkeh` | cncfanatics: its just blizz reducing the amount of required raiding addons. |
| 17:36.36 | cncfanatics | true too |
| 17:36.43 | Xinhuan | i prefer encounters that don't require me to pay attentino to threat ;p |
| 17:36.48 | Fisker- | Ah Denmark |
| 17:36.48 | Xinhuan | one less thing to worry about haha |
| 17:36.49 | cncfanatics | but I still believe blizz made encounters like VR & gruul cuz threat meters were available in the first place |
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| 17:36.54 | Fisker- | the most competent police force in the world |
| 17:36.56 | Pkekyo | Veni Vidi Castratavi Illegitimos |
| 17:37.02 | kadrahil | Xinhuan: i just wait until Omen flashes my screen red and i pop FD |
| 17:37.09 | Fisker- | A man is found in a river, the man has been tied up and drowned |
| 17:37.14 | Funkeh` | cncfanatics: It is possible, but still its not really a smart move is it? |
| 17:37.22 | Fisker- | The police thinks it's either an ACCIDENT, a suicide or a murder |
| 17:38.00 | Xinhuan | is this relevant to the discussion Fisker-? :o |
| 17:38.13 | Fisker- | off topic > on topic |
| 17:38.16 | NightHawkTheSane | nothing Fisker- says is ever relevant |
| 17:38.21 | Funkeh` | Fisker- ftw |
| 17:38.35 | Fisker- | noooo |
| 17:38.51 | Funkeh` | cncfanatics: At the end of the day they have 2 choices, remove the use of a heavily required addon(a la decursive), or implement it. |
| 17:39.47 | cncfanatics | u cant remove the threat meters |
| 17:39.51 | Xinhuan | decursive wasn't "required", it was very useful though, and trivialised encounters (that were probably created because decursive existed) |
| 17:39.53 | cncfanatics | so they implemented it :) |
| 17:40.12 | Silowyi | removing threatmeters would require gutting large portions of the API |
| 17:40.21 | Silowyi | and probably getting rid of the combat log too |
| 17:40.42 | Fisker- | You hit your target for MASSIVE DAMAGE |
| 17:40.47 | Xinhuan | blizzard can only remove threat meters if they don't give us exact damage numbers |
| 17:41.00 | Fisker- | they don't already |
| 17:41.05 | Fisker- | doh |
| 17:41.06 | Funkeh` | Xinhuan: Mmm, debatable, there were some encounters that were especially ahrd without it like Noth. |
| 17:41.06 | Fisker- | nevermind |
| 17:41.12 | art3mis | Your slash ***ANNIHILATES*** Gruul. |
| 17:41.28 | Xinhuan | AHahaha |
| 17:41.31 | Xinhuan | love MUDs |
| 17:41.41 | Funkeh` | Xinhuan: I suppose I mean more along the line of 'raid required addons' not 'encounter required addons' |
| 17:41.57 | Xinhuan | Your --==INCREDIBLE==-- Backstab hits Gruul. |
| 17:42.24 | Xinhuan | not true funkeh - you can assign decursing priorities |
| 17:42.25 | Funkeh` | Yeah, here you go guys have MobID's |
| 17:42.30 | art3mis | of course this does bring up the question... if they add a threat meter whats to stop them from mucking with the numbers to give false info ;P |
| 17:42.31 | Funkeh` | but we will remove the damage listing |
| 17:42.37 | Xinhuan | mage A decurses group 1 and 2, mage B decurses group 3 and 4, etc |
| 17:42.42 | Funkeh` | Just to compensate ya know. |
| 17:42.52 | Xinhuan | and if mage B finishes decursing, he can help decurse 2 and 5 |
| 17:43.02 | Funkeh` | Xinhuan: No guild I know did that though, as smart as it is. |
| 17:43.16 | Funkeh` | Xinhuan: It was much easier to just use decursive, and most guilds would force it. |
| 17:43.17 | Xinhuan | no guild did it because decursive already did that |
| 17:43.22 | Xinhuan | in its inbuilt dfault behavior |
| 17:43.23 | Funkeh` | exatly ;p |
| 17:43.25 | Xinhuan | default* |
| 17:43.37 | Silowyi | Funkeh`: When I was in Prodigy we did that post-Decursive on Chromaggus and such |
| 17:43.51 | Xinhuan | you always decurse your group first, then the addon increments group numbers and prioritizes that way |
| 17:44.08 | Xinhuan | unless you specifically added in your priority (such as MT) |
| 17:44.11 | Funkeh` | These days you have addons like grid so you decurse people in range and such. |
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| 17:44.18 | Silowyi | at that time the Decursive project had been all but abandoned and didn't have a workable replacement in the forseable future, we had to assign cleanse groups |
| 17:44.24 | Funkeh` | Which is all truthfullness, is probably better than decursive. |
| 17:44.41 | Xinhuan | i simply told my guild to get Clique, and decursing on Noth had no issues |
| 17:44.54 | Silowyi | I prefer addons that require some degree of thought, it promotes bringing more intelligent members to raids. So I agree with you there Funkeh` |
| 17:45.33 | Funkeh` | Silowyi: Indeed, its much more rewarding when you do an encounter with Grid and actually participate in a vital role of the encounter, than completely skip it. |
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| 17:45.50 | Funkeh` | Or whatever addon/style you use for that matter. |
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| 17:46.23 | Xinhuan | well such encounters were meant to show coordination - remember the first time you killed Lucifron? ;p |
| 17:46.26 | Silowyi | tbh I just use raid frames with a mouseover macro |
| 17:46.34 | Silowyi | x-perl raid frames shows debuffs |
| 17:46.34 | Xinhuan | you better had assigned mages and druid to decurse certain groups |
| 17:46.43 | Xinhuan | because decursive didn't exist back then |
| 17:47.09 | Silowyi | Xinhuan... back then? You mean like, Lucifron in 2004/2005? |
| 17:47.13 | Xinhuan | yes lol |
| 17:47.18 | Silowyi | woot |
| 17:47.18 | Funkeh` | hehe |
| 17:47.28 | Xinhuan | with blue level 60 gear from SCHOLO and UBRS WOOOO |
| 17:47.35 | Funkeh` | TeamSpeak: 'Decurseeee....' |
| 17:47.38 | Xinhuan | decurseeeee |
| 17:47.41 | Xinhuan | decurseeee! |
| 17:47.44 | Xinhuan | and kazzak |
| 17:47.46 | Xinhuan | LOL |
| 17:47.48 | Xinhuan | DECURSE |
| 17:47.49 | Funkeh` | hehe |
| 17:48.02 | kenlyric | heh. I did mc before I ever stepped in ubrs. |
| 17:48.04 | Silowyi | our raid leader had full T0, was a rogue |
| 17:48.07 | Funkeh` | I think that went more like 'AAARGGGGGG....' |
| 17:48.10 | Silowyi | and we thought she was so cool for it |
| 17:48.18 | Xinhuan | we can blame Chromaggus for the development of decursive i think? |
| 17:48.28 | Funkeh` | Probably. |
| 17:48.32 | Silowyi | nah |
| 17:48.37 | Silowyi | Decursive was around far earlier |
| 17:48.41 | [Ammo] | lucifron |
| 17:48.45 | [Ammo] | and pvp |
| 17:48.51 | Funkeh` | PvP? |
| 17:48.56 | [Ammo] | yarr |
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| 17:49.06 | Funkeh` | People decurse in PvP? I'm coming to your server. |
| 17:49.15 | [Ammo] | people used to with decursive |
| 17:49.16 | Pkekyo | [19:46] sag_ich_nicht[18:58] <Pkekyo> sag_ich_nicht: alt+tabbing does not lag in general, but minimizing wow when not in windowed mode is too slow <--i told you, it lags. for me, it's instant, and i play in fullscreen. <--- true, but it's the minimize animation feature in windows that's a problem in my eyes |
| 17:49.17 | Silowyi | Decursive and Raid Bars |
| 17:49.20 | [Ammo] | my dots would not be on there in gneral |
| 17:49.25 | [Ammo] | as a lock |
| 17:49.25 | Silowyi | the first two, imo, addons that changed the game |
| 17:49.28 | [Ammo] | they'd be gone in seconds |
| 17:49.31 | Funkeh` | Ouch |
| 17:49.47 | Funkeh` | So break Decursive and make UA aye? ;p |
| 17:50.03 | Xinhuan | you realise you can disable the "minimize animation" in windows right? ;p |
| 17:50.43 | CIA-14 | 03evilelvis * r47547 10eePanels/ (8 files in 2 dirs): eePanels: changing to new code: part 1 |
| 17:51.01 | Silowyi | not to criticize |
| 17:51.03 | Silowyi | but |
| 17:51.05 | Xinhuan | Start menu --> control panel --> system --> Advanced Tab --> performance options --> Visual Effects |
| 17:51.16 | Silowyi | patch notes: changing to new code <-- isn't that rather redundant? |
| 17:51.28 | Xinhuan | --> "Animate windows when minimizing and maximizing" |
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| 17:51.53 | kenlyric | Silowyi: think of it as "merging branch" |
| 17:51.59 | kenlyric | except, there's no merging :) |
| 17:52.12 | Pkekyo | Xinhuan: cheers, I've hated that thing for like...ever :> |
| 17:52.14 | Xinhuan | it says "part 1", so i suppose the actual commit message would come in part 2? |
| 17:52.20 | kenlyric | or "yes, your eepanels setting will break today" |
| 17:52.45 | kenlyric | it was nice of him to have the popup warning in recent updates though. |
| 17:53.25 | sag_ich_nicht | [19:49] <Pkekyo> [19:46] sag_ich_nicht[18:58] <Pkekyo> sag_ich_nicht: alt+tabbing does not lag in general, but minimizing wow when not in windowed mode is too slow <--i told you, it lags. for me, it's instant, and i play in fullscreen. <--- true, but it's the minimize animation feature in windows that's a problem in my eyes <--not for me :O |
| 17:53.35 | Funkeh` | Yeah I think I turned off all that shit after reading an 'Improve Performance' manual or something. |
| 17:53.40 | CIA-14 | 03evilelvis * r47548 10eePanels/ (5 files): eePanels: changing to new code: part 2 |
| 17:53.41 | Funkeh` | I have most of the XP guff off. |
| 17:53.44 | Pkekyo | sag_ich_nicht: I need smoother alt+tabbin :> |
| 17:53.44 | sag_ich_nicht | besides, you can turn off the minimize animation. |
| 17:54.58 | kenlyric | I can hardly stand playing games full screen anymore. |
| 17:55.12 | Xinhuan | you mean like starcraft 1? |
| 17:55.18 | kenlyric | like warcraft 3 |
| 17:55.20 | Xinhuan | there's no windows mode option |
| 17:55.21 | kenlyric | GTA |
| 17:55.23 | Xinhuan | for SC1 |
| 17:55.29 | Pkekyo | kenlyric: same, but when I play wow windowed w/o maximized, it lags like a dickwad on crack |
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| 17:55.42 | Xinhuan | unless you install some directx redirecting program that redirects the output to a window |
| 17:55.53 | CIA-14 | 03evilelvis * r47549 10eePanels/ (3 files in 2 dirs): eePanels: changing to new code: part 3 - moving localization |
| 17:55.56 | kenlyric | yeah, get more ram. |
| 17:56.01 | sag_ich_nicht | Rank 11+ can't write in worlddefense. since when? |
| 17:56.03 | Xinhuan | and you can't resize that window so you still end up running a tiny 640x480 window for sc1 in a huge screen |
| 17:56.06 | kenlyric | fixes babies. |
| 17:56.11 | Xinhuan | sag_ich_nicht: that was before v2.0 |
| 17:56.30 | sag_ich_nicht | Xinhuan so? |
| 17:56.38 | sag_ich_nicht | still don't see the point of removing it :( |
| 17:56.39 | CIA-14 | 03evilelvis * r47550 10eePanels/localization/localization.enUS.lua: eePanels: changing to new code: part 4 - new localization |
| 17:56.46 | Fisker- | hoho Punkie` |
| 17:56.47 | kenlyric | you didn't ask why they removed it. |
| 17:56.48 | Xinhuan | they removed that restriction after changing the honor system hah |
| 17:56.50 | kenlyric | you asked "since when" |
| 17:56.56 | kenlyric | and he answered. Don't be a dick. |
| 17:56.58 | sag_ich_nicht | okay true. |
| 17:57.05 | kenlyric | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:57.09 | Fisker- | ~botslap |
| 17:57.10 | purl | OUCH! That hurt, fisker-! |
| 17:57.10 | Xinhuan | <3 |
| 17:57.15 | sag_ich_nicht | no, they increased the restriction |
| 17:57.20 | sag_ich_nicht | because now NOONE can write to it. |
| 17:57.21 | sag_ich_nicht | fail |
| 17:57.47 | kenlyric | yeah, that is kinda dumb. |
| 17:57.54 | Xinhuan | actually i've never tried to write to it |
| 17:58.03 | Xinhuan | because i don't even go into that channel |
| 17:58.12 | kenlyric | but, it makes sense to do away with restrictions based on rank. |
| 17:58.41 | Xinhuan | the only time i joined it, was to say "Hello world" |
| 17:58.52 | kenlyric | omg, auberdine is under attack, better leave Halaa |
| 17:58.53 | Xinhuan | and see "Grand Marshal" attached to the name |
| 17:58.57 | Xinhuan | :) |
| 17:58.57 | Pkekyo | my school's sysadmin is a dickwad! |
| 17:59.28 | kenlyric | msn and port 80, right? |
| 18:00.05 | Xinhuan | you defend halaa? |
| 18:00.29 | kenlyric | no, it was just an example. |
| 18:00.36 | kenlyric | who defends anything anymore? honestly. |
| 18:00.53 | Xinhuan | hey blizzard's video of EPL tower defending was so TOTALLY COOL! |
| 18:00.58 | kenlyric | don't get arena points for world pvp |
| 18:01.07 | kenlyric | fail |
| 18:01.17 | Silowyi | I defend halaa |
| 18:01.21 | Silowyi | after the guards are dead |
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| 18:01.27 | Silowyi | wtb black war talbuk |
| 18:01.33 | kenlyric | I walk into halaa, do my business and leave. |
| 18:01.35 | art3mis | thats racist |
| 18:01.35 | Pkekyo | kenlyric: correct |
| 18:01.47 | art3mis | halaa has nothing worth it |
| 18:01.51 | Xinhuan | if i need battle tokens, we just organise some trading sessin |
| 18:01.52 | Xinhuan | session |
| 18:01.53 | kenlyric | 18 slot bag. |
| 18:01.58 | kenlyric | for freeze |
| 18:02.09 | Xinhuan | i got like 400 tokens in 2 hours |
| 18:02.20 | art3mis | im a tailor |
| 18:02.22 | kenlyric | Xinhuan: reported. |
| 18:02.25 | Silowyi | Cause 18 slot bags cost more than like 5g amiright? |
| 18:02.31 | Xinhuan | it was some massive 30 horde and 30 alliance group doing trading |
| 18:02.35 | kenlyric | they cost a lot more than 5g. |
| 18:02.37 | Xinhuan | surprisingly, the horde got reported |
| 18:02.39 | Xinhuan | some got warnings |
| 18:02.41 | vithos | and by "free" you mean "through an investment of time much greater than it would cost to farm gold to buy an 18 slot bag" |
| 18:02.44 | *** join/#wowace KarlThePagan (n=andross@lanip-170-65.go180.net) |
| 18:02.44 | *** mode/#wowace [+v KarlThePagan] by ChanServ |
| 18:02.44 | Xinhuan | and none of the alliance got warnings |
| 18:02.48 | art3mis | and what else am i gonna do with imbued netherweave now that ive got my shadow set ;) |
| 18:02.48 | kenlyric | vithos: no, free. |
| 18:02.49 | Xinhuan | GMs can be pretty dumb? |
| 18:02.50 | stavmar | Weird question, What kind of mem usage are you guys getting in 25-man raid content and 10-man content? I feel like I am out in left field and would like to get some reference as to know what I should try for? |
| 18:02.55 | kenlyric | you get the stuff you need for the bag just questing there. |
| 18:03.14 | kebinusan | stavmar: depends on how often I reset relog |
| 18:03.18 | kenlyric | of course, my current guy is twinked, so he's got them already. Which is good since he's horde. |
| 18:03.20 | kebinusan | Ive had mine as high as 80Mib |
| 18:03.23 | kenlyric | and horde at halaa = lol |
| 18:03.29 | vithos | i did every quest in the zone and didn't have enough of whatever those things were |
| 18:03.33 | kebinusan | err recount not relog |
| 18:03.38 | kebinusan | but Im sure the same thing applies |
| 18:03.38 | Xinhuan | mine goes between 48-80mb |
| 18:03.55 | Funkeh` | I login at 16 and go to 22-25 in raids. |
| 18:04.05 | stavmar | 80MB seems to be the norm for me running about 144 mods :-( Everyday I try to remove mods, but I cannot get rid of anymore |
| 18:04.12 | kebinusan | I login at ~26 |
| 18:04.14 | Xinhuan | depends on what mods you run |
| 18:04.20 | Funkeh` | Indeed. |
| 18:04.31 | kenlyric | get rid of mods that run like crap, that helped me. |
| 18:04.35 | Xinhuan | if you, say, run a combat logging addon, you'll incur a higher usage |
| 18:04.39 | stavmar | Xinhuan: of course, I just want to understand what most people run |
| 18:04.46 | kenlyric | lootlink rapes you right from the start. |
| 18:04.53 | kenlyric | also, if you have auctioneer on autoload. |
| 18:04.57 | stavmar | Recount really takes me over the op in 25 and 10 man contact |
| 18:05.01 | Funkeh` | I have 175 addon folders in my addons folder. |
| 18:05.04 | Xinhuan | saeris's lootlink is ok in my opinion |
| 18:05.04 | kenlyric | giant SV = sad |
| 18:05.14 | Xinhuan | still contains the option to save full text |
| 18:05.17 | Xinhuan | or not at all |
| 18:05.18 | stavmar | Funkeh`: how many are turned on? |
| 18:05.38 | *** join/#wowace Dotted (n=nnscript@ip-22-215.bnaa.dk) |
| 18:05.39 | Funkeh` | stavmar: All of them, but most are LoD, BigWigs, Quartz, Cartographer etc. |
| 18:05.55 | Funkeh` | stavmar: So I probably Have about 130 |
| 18:05.58 | kenlyric | I just use one which stores itemnames and retreives data from itemcache.mdb. |
| 18:06.06 | stavmar | I use the same but I start at 65MB and climb |
| 18:06.16 | *** join/#wowace lepe (i=lepe@dyn63-40.dsl.spy.dnainternet.fi) |
| 18:06.21 | Funkeh` | stavmar: I don't have any database heavy addons |
| 18:06.22 | Xinhuan | my lootlink says 59790 items, and 20.6 mb, the savedvar file is 12 mb |
| 18:06.32 | kebinusan | grep enabled AddOns.txt | wc -l / 231 |
| 18:06.33 | Xinhuan | it only saves the base item |
| 18:06.33 | kebinusan | wow |
| 18:06.37 | Funkeh` | stavmar: The only database addon I have is cartographer gathering, and tis not that heavy. |
| 18:06.39 | kebinusan | didnt realize I had so many enabled |
| 18:06.50 | kebinusan | thats probably more than I have in my addons folder heh |
| 18:06.59 | kebinusan | err that'd catch not enabled |
| 18:07.01 | kebinusan | bleh |
| 18:07.03 | Silowyi | so |
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| 18:07.10 | Silowyi | why can't you /follow any target you see? |
| 18:07.15 | stavmar | the non LoD mod I use is outfitter, do you have every cart addon as well or just the gathering mods for it? |
| 18:07.21 | kebinusan | nah guess it wouldnt |
| 18:07.25 | Silowyi | it seems counter intuitive |
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| 18:08.21 | Silowyi | I remember DAoC and /stick-ing too mobs |
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| 18:08.36 | Silowyi | and those damn Skalds in pvp |
| 18:08.39 | Funkeh` | stavmar: sec I'll get a screenie |
| 18:09.03 | Xinhuan | /follow range is 28 yards i think |
| 18:09.42 | Silowyi | not so much talking about the range as wanting to /follow Khadgar's servant :P |
| 18:09.44 | stavmar | Funkeh`: Thx, I am just not sure what I cannot live without except for some Fubar mods |
| 18:10.53 | CIA-14 | 03cncfanatics * r47551 10FlexBar2/ (Action/Action.lua Core.lua EventManager/EventManager.lua): (log message trimmed) |
| 18:10.53 | CIA-14 | FlexBar2: |
| 18:10.53 | CIA-14 | Core.lua: |
| 18:10.53 | CIA-14 | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:10.53 | CIA-14 | Layout.lua |
| 18:10.54 | CIA-14 | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:10.56 | CIA-14 | EventManager.lua |
| 18:11.08 | Silowyi | my cat apparently thinks radiation treatment will solve his hyperthyroidism |
| 18:11.15 | Silowyi | he's laying on top of my UPS |
| 18:11.23 | Xinhuan | hyper-what? |
| 18:11.32 | Silowyi | older cats |
| 18:11.42 | Silowyi | get a condition where their thyroid glands swell |
| 18:12.01 | stavmar | Silowyi: it can be very troublesome and quite upsetting |
| 18:12.17 | kebinusan | wish I could remember where I got this addon called AlternateBlips |
| 18:12.36 | Xinhuan | google |
| 18:12.43 | Silowyi | Stavmar: I'm somewhat more pragmatic about pets. He's lived very long for a cat, almost 17 years |
| 18:12.51 | kebinusan | yeah, Im a bit off today and cant spell it seems |
| 18:13.06 | Silowyi | So I guess I'm sort of accepting that his days are numbered ^_^ |
| 18:13.14 | stavmar | Silowyi: that is a long time, and I am sure it has been a good one at that |
| 18:13.58 | kadrahil | heh, two full 5 man groups, one alliance, one horde, we both worked together to do the ogri'la quests before the dailies |
| 18:14.01 | kadrahil | on a pvp server even |
| 18:14.03 | kadrahil | :O |
| 18:15.27 | Funkeh` | stavmar: http://img410.imageshack.us/img410/8403/addonsye6.jpg scored out the ones I usually have disabled, thats my setup really, login in at 16mb and goto 20 in raid after all my raid shit loads. |
| 18:15.33 | Xinhuan | my group of 5 took 12 minutes to kill one of those dragons that land on breaking the dragon egg just now |
| 18:15.43 | stavmar | Funkeh`: thx |
| 18:15.50 | kadrahil | Xinhuan: i haven't got that far yet |
| 18:15.50 | Xinhuan | cos 2 horde i killed tracked me from netherwing mines to ogrila |
| 18:15.53 | Xinhuan | and came to disturb |
| 18:16.02 | Xinhuan | so we were 5-manning the boss |
| 18:16.04 | kadrahil | lol yep |
| 18:16.09 | kadrahil | ok back to class, bbl |
| 18:16.10 | Xinhuan | they came and tried to kill us while we were fighting |
| 18:16.19 | Xinhuan | there were some deaths, etc |
| 18:16.23 | Xinhuan | we didn't actually wipe |
| 18:16.35 | Xinhuan | cos the group was 2 pallies, 2 priests and me |
| 18:16.49 | Xinhuan | so if a pally tank died, the other pally started tanking while the first corpse run |
| 18:17.47 | kebinusan | Funkeh`: whats lightheaded |
| 18:17.53 | cncfanatics | kill the priests ? :p |
| 18:17.55 | Silowyi | heh, went to log out of WoW and typed /fold instead of camp |
| 18:18.04 | stavmar | Funkeh`: so you still use AgUF and not PitBull, any reason? |
| 18:18.05 | Xinhuan | well both priests and both pallies are holy |
| 18:18.05 | Funkeh` | ~lightheaded |
| 18:18.06 | purl | [lightheaded] an addon by cladhaire which displays quest comments from wowhead.com in-game. You can download LightHeaded at http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info7017-LightHeaded.html |
| 18:18.12 | Xinhuan | so pretty much all 4 of them can heal |
| 18:18.18 | Xinhuan | and the 2 pallies can both tank ;p |
| 18:18.19 | Xinhuan | so yeah |
| 18:18.24 | Funkeh` | stavmar: PitBull is too bloated for my use |
| 18:18.29 | stavmar | lightheaded is the best mod for questing by far, simple and smart |
| 18:18.45 | art3mis | you say that now |
| 18:18.52 | *** join/#wowace Tinyboom (n=Flexom@83.80-202-153.nextgentel.com) |
| 18:18.56 | art3mis | wait til it starts trying to touch you in wierd places at night |
| 18:19.15 | Funkeh` | stavmar: I originally swapped to PitBull when it was very light and better than aguf, and recently switched back because I'm fed up wiht the way it turned out. |
| 18:19.25 | stavmar | hmm, that is too bad |
| 18:19.38 | stavmar | I wonder if tha is one of the mods killing my mem usage? |
| 18:19.50 | Silowyi | art3mis: that reminds me of http://www.darklegacycomics.com/index.html |
| 18:19.58 | art3mis | pitbull, while a good "in theory" mod just scaled and came out horrible as an overall replacement |
| 18:20.08 | Funkeh` | Indeed. |
| 18:20.18 | Funkeh` | It was awesome when it had like 10 pewople working on it. |
| 18:20.29 | stavmar | I guess I really never noticed |
| 18:20.35 | Funkeh` | Like always, addons are better when done by teams. |
| 18:20.42 | stavmar | I like pitbulland its flexibility |
| 18:20.52 | Funkeh` | Then keep it. :0 |
| 18:21.22 | stavmar | well agUF had the same functionality and since my mem usage is going berserk maybe it will help, lol |
| 18:21.22 | Funkeh` | I never said you should drop it, I stated why I'm not using it. ;) |
| 18:21.38 | Funkeh` | Theres no denying its functionality. |
| 18:21.40 | CIA-14 | 03evilelvis * r47553 10eePanels/eePanels.toc: eePanels: updated TOC to new wowace thread |
| 18:21.44 | CIA-14 | 03thexod * r47552 10ItemValue/ (8 files): |
| 18:21.44 | CIA-14 | ItemValue: |
| 18:21.44 | CIA-14 | - Minor changes to some strings |
| 18:21.44 | CIA-14 | - Localization is now possible |
| 18:21.44 | CIA-14 | - Included a quick deDE translation |
| 18:22.08 | Aens|Superiority | I find that alot of pitbull's functionality isn't wasted. Theres maybe a handful of features I dont use. The rest I do |
| 18:22.24 | cncfanatics | delete the modules u dont use ? |
| 18:22.29 | cncfanatics | thats what modular stuff is for |
| 18:22.47 | art3mis | i dislike that it doesnt play with other mods very well and its raid stuff makes baby jesus bleed from his rectum |
| 18:23.11 | Funkeh` | cncfanatics: can't disable the core addon :P |
| 18:23.15 | kebinusan | I use grid for raid frames *shrugs* |
| 18:23.17 | art3mis | not to mention the layout is kind of ugly ;P |
| 18:23.37 | Funkeh` | me too, I don't use aguf for raid either |
| 18:23.41 | Funkeh` | Just for part etc |
| 18:23.44 | Funkeh` | party* |
| 18:23.54 | Xinhuan | what unit frames do you use? |
| 18:23.56 | art3mis | perfect raid for raids stellaruf for ui target and party |
| 18:24.00 | Funkeh` | agUF |
| 18:24.10 | art3mis | stellar ONLY does the unit frames |
| 18:24.15 | art3mis | no auras etc etc etc |
| 18:24.26 | art3mis | and it only handles target tot party and player |
| 18:24.28 | art3mis | no raid |
| 18:24.36 | art3mis | its tiny and good |
| 18:24.39 | Funkeh` | I prefer grid over PR simply because its small and its a grid. ;p |
| 18:24.59 | Funkeh` | Never tried that. ^^ |
| 18:25.01 | art3mis | heh thats the reason i dont like it ;P |
| 18:25.19 | art3mis | too many people in previous guilds had the same prefix of thier names |
| 18:25.26 | art3mis | so grid was ugly ;) |
| 18:25.32 | art3mis | minigroup was awesome |
| 18:25.36 | Funkeh` | I don't look at the names. |
| 18:25.46 | Funkeh` | Its just something I have in the corner as a status monitor. |
| 18:25.51 | Funkeh` | Since I'm not a healer. |
| 18:25.58 | kebinusan | I should try SimpleChatMods instead of Prat |
| 18:26.04 | art3mis | the layout was great simply because it grouped (if you wanted) all members into a single "frame" and actually scaled prioper for pets |
| 18:26.08 | art3mis | proper |
| 18:26.33 | art3mis | you had a single box for the entire party+pets |
| 18:26.56 | art3mis | it lost a bit in layout but meh it was perty |
| 18:27.11 | art3mis | wonder whatever happened with nurfed |
| 18:27.16 | art3mis | so tiv still working on that? |
| 18:27.35 | Funkeh` | Not sure. |
| 18:27.39 | art3mis | kebinusan: get phlanx and cirks chat manager |
| 18:27.42 | Funkeh` | last I saw the package was 75% ace addons. |
| 18:27.47 | art3mis | thats all yer chat frame needs ;P |
| 18:28.01 | art3mis | Funkeh`: yeah but he did other little work on layouts n stuff |
| 18:28.05 | Funkeh` | I have a cutsomized simplechatmods |
| 18:28.11 | Funkeh` | Only using 1/4 of it really. |
| 18:28.13 | art3mis | mazzle just groups whit, but it's the design that wins people |
| 18:28.35 | art3mis | thats why omen did so well |
| 18:28.41 | art3mis | it wasnt that it was better |
| 18:28.41 | Funkeh` | I like mazzle's package, but its not to my taste really. |
| 18:28.52 | art3mis | its that it looked pretty and you could configure it easily |
| 18:29.02 | art3mis | i like mazzles layout and art |
| 18:29.05 | Aens|Superiority | this is what I got, but this is the only screenshot i have in a raid situation >.< http://aenslaed.mizery.net/repair.jpg |
| 18:29.09 | art3mis | his mod choices suck balls |
| 18:29.15 | Funkeh` | lol |
| 18:29.43 | kebinusan | links? I cant seem to find phlanx on wowi or curse |
| 18:29.50 | Xinhuan | i use xperl, because i like the way it is showing the information |
| 18:30.00 | art3mis | one sec |
| 18:30.02 | Funkeh` | stavmar: btw lightheaded is all disabled on my main, I only use it on my alts. |
| 18:30.10 | stavmar | same |
| 18:30.14 | Aens|Superiority | art3mis: hows guild chat btw? |
| 18:30.32 | Pkekyo | sigh...wowjutsu REALLY needs a functioning search function... |
| 18:30.47 | Xinhuan | functioning as in...? |
| 18:30.48 | art3mis | http://wowui.incgamers.com/ui.php?id=3530\ |
| 18:30.49 | Shadowed| | Anyone know if UnitAttackSpeed/UnitRangedDamage weapon speed is effected by haste |
| 18:30.56 | art3mis | laugh yer guild is hilarious |
| 18:30.58 | Aens|Superiority | art3mis: its been a quiet week, but if you've seen some of the screenshotted discussions on our webpage, it gets fun. |
| 18:31.09 | Pkekyo | Aens|Superiority: what bags are those? OneBag? |
| 18:31.15 | Aens|Superiority | Pkekyo: yeah |
| 18:31.16 | stavmar | I am trying to level one alt with my wife, it is her first toona nd first MMORPG, so the mod is great i taught her how to use it and she picked it up after 2 quests, with cartographer and teh waypoint functionality at least the big arrows it really makes direction not a big problem for her, she is horrible with directions |
| 18:31.20 | CIA-14 | 03rodrick * r47554 10NazGuildWelcomer/ (. Core.lua NazGuildWelcomer.toc): |
| 18:31.20 | CIA-14 | NazGuildWelcomer: initial commit |
| 18:31.20 | CIA-14 | - Auto-welcomes new guild members |
| 18:31.21 | art3mis | i kind of like how i can be new and call them whores and no-one gets pissy |
| 18:31.32 | Aens|Superiority | its expected. |
| 18:31.34 | Pkekyo | Xinhuan: as in -actually being able to search- |
| 18:31.37 | NightHawkTheSane | Shadowed|: i -think- it is, the last time i toyed with those functions it returned proper speed when haste effects were in play, but that was pre-2.0 *shrug* |
| 18:31.38 | Aens|Superiority | http://www.hcguild.org/e107/news.php read the news posts |
| 18:31.46 | Xinhuan | oh heh |
| 18:31.55 | Shadowed| | NightHawkTheSane, i'll check the paper doll stuff then and see if I can get a for sure answer, thanks. |
| 18:32.01 | *** part/#wowace Keya (n=patrick@xdsl-213-196-241-60.netcologne.de) |
| 18:32.58 | Funkeh` | Aens|Superiority: 'because he got hes loot from there', lol. |
| 18:33.05 | art3mis | heh |
| 18:33.15 | CIA-14 | 03kaelten * r47555 10LibStub/ (LibStub.lua LibStub.toc): |
| 18:33.15 | CIA-14 | LibStub: LS-9 |
| 18:33.15 | CIA-14 | - Added License to files |
| 18:33.15 | CIA-14 | - Hereby in RC status |
| 18:33.54 | Funkeh` | Kaelten: gogo =) |
| 18:33.56 | Xinhuan | with the armory speed update, i wonder if that helped wowjuutsu update its database faster |
| 18:34.04 | *** join/#wowace Keya (n=patrick@xdsl-213-196-241-60.netcologne.de) |
| 18:34.25 | art3mis | stavmar: of course shes horrible with directions shes a woman(i assume) |
| 18:34.41 | art3mis | thats why waypoints work well |
| 18:34.47 | art3mis | it lets he ask for directions ;P |
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| 18:35.18 | *** mode/#wowace [+v PProvost] by ChanServ |
| 18:35.24 | stavmar | yes she is a female and a beautiful one which is why i do what i can to keep her interested int eh game and LHeaded is a real winner, I pretty much use all of clad's mods they just work and they rock |
| 18:35.32 | cncfanatics | Libstub is now in RC ? :o |
| 18:35.33 | cncfanatics | that was fast |
| 18:36.19 | Shadowed| | Xinhuan, not really the armory wasn't that slow when you were doing direct requests |
| 18:36.31 | Chompers | it's mag time |
| 18:36.35 | Chompers | we're going to die! |
| 18:36.42 | Shadowed| | they have to scan and do a ton of calculations, it's going to be slow no matter what |
| 18:36.49 | art3mis | stavmar: youll need to provide pics to prove the "beautiful" part |
| 18:36.51 | vithos | i hope you've beep practicing your rubix skills |
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| 18:36.56 | art3mis | sorry but it's a rule of the internet |
| 18:37.31 | art3mis | i think i need to bind shift+left click to /who $1 |
| 18:37.32 | stavmar | not my rule sorries |
| 18:37.35 | art3mis | stupid wow |
| 18:37.49 | stavmar | and to the HC Guild, holy crap on teh guild ranks, that is sweet |
| 18:37.55 | Kaelten | cncfanatics: ya, its very simple, check out the code |
| 18:38.17 | art3mis | meh i so dont wanna shower and go to the office |
| 18:38.27 | art3mis | i think i need to just go sleep more |
| 18:38.30 | Shadowed| | NightHawkTheSane, it appears the actual speed and not base is returned, you have to use GetCombatRatingBonus to get how much it was speed up by. |
| 18:39.10 | NightHawkTheSane | Shadowed|: Yeah, I think that's what i said? or at least what I meant. :) |
| 18:39.37 | Aens|Superiority | should see the second last news post on the first page. |
| 18:39.42 | Funkeh` | Oh sweet jesus. |
| 18:39.48 | Funkeh` | That really is comical that post. |
| 18:39.51 | Aens|Superiority | our news poster was busy for the last couple weeks |
| 18:39.58 | Funkeh` | SOme of those screenshots are just lol. |
| 18:40.07 | Shadowed| | NightHawkTheSane, you said you think you weren't sure =p |
| 18:40.13 | Shadowed| | was confirming it incase you wanted to know! |
| 18:40.24 | NightHawkTheSane | Shadowed|: ah, okay. well, thanks :) |
| 18:40.36 | Kaelten | cncfanatics: http://fish.wowace.com/browse/WowAce/trunk/LibStub/LibStub.lua?r=47555 |
| 18:40.42 | Funkeh` | promoted to I, promoted to fucked, promoted to your, promoted to sister. |
| 18:41.11 | nevcairiel | that fishstub thing is great, shows who edited what line :o |
| 18:41.38 | NeoTron | "annotate" functionality is incredibly useful |
| 18:41.51 | Kaelten | and I love it because it doesn't chew the server a new one like trac does :) |
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| 18:42.24 | NeoTron | especially useful when you want to figure out who/when a particularly stupid piece of code was written/added |
| 18:42.31 | Kaelten | hehe ya |
| 18:42.43 | Kaelten | I would really love to have it do syntax highlighting as well though |
| 18:42.50 | CIA-14 | 03rodrick * r47556 10NazGuildWelcomer/: |
| 18:42.50 | CIA-14 | NazGuildWelcomer: |
| 18:42.50 | CIA-14 | - Properties set |
| 18:42.53 | kergoth | i want a vim plugin that shows annotate/blame data in a column next to the primary window |
| 18:42.56 | stavmar | Aens|Superiority: wow, second to last post, just wow |
| 18:43.51 | CIA-14 | 03lilcure * r47557 10TunnelVision/TunnelVision.toc: TunnelVision: Fixed toc category |
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| 18:46.22 | cncfanatics | kergoth, if u ever write one, give it to me ! |
| 18:47.11 | cncfanatics | fish.wowace.com ? |
| 18:47.57 | stavmar | Funkeh`: can i get a screenie if possible of your UI? |
| 18:47.59 | cncfanatics | 50 lines of code written by 7 people :) |
| 18:48.17 | cncfanatics | hmmm |
| 18:48.19 | cncfanatics | that fish thingy |
| 18:48.21 | cncfanatics | cant show folders ? |
| 18:48.24 | Kaelten | restarting fish thing |
| 18:48.31 | Kaelten | ya it can |
| 18:48.43 | cncfanatics | its down or ? : |
| 18:48.49 | Kaelten | restarting |
| 18:48.56 | Kaelten | I'm playing with a config file |
| 18:49.08 | Kaelten | seeing how hard it'll be to add lua syntax highlighting |
| 18:49.39 | cncfanatics | hmmm |
| 18:49.39 | Funkeh` | stavmar: Yeah but they are somewhat old |
| 18:49.46 | cncfanatics | I'm guesing trac is going down soon in favor of another system ? |
| 18:49.53 | stavmar | well some other time then |
| 18:50.02 | Kaelten | cncfanatics: jira.wowace.com |
| 18:50.04 | Kaelten | if all goes well |
| 18:50.47 | stavmar | Funkeh`: Here is mine http://www.incite-guild.org/forum/images/stavmar/StavmarUI20070423.jpg but it is from april need to update as well |
| 18:51.08 | Kaelten | cncfanatics: http://jira.wowace.com/browse/LS |
| 18:51.25 | Funkeh` | stavmar: http://img249.imageshack.us/img249/3954/oorxa2.jpg |
| 18:51.43 | cncfanatics | already saw jira |
| 18:51.48 | NeoTron | stavmar: you really like yourself, having 3 unit frames with yourself omg! |
| 18:51.50 | cncfanatics | but found no way to browse files or add projects |
| 18:51.53 | stavmar | And you are a helaer |
| 18:52.04 | Funkeh` | no |
| 18:52.05 | stavmar | NeoTron: just to show the Unitframe layout is all |
| 18:52.13 | art3mis | stav |
| 18:52.19 | NeoTron | stavmar: I know, just being funny :P |
| 18:52.20 | art3mis | why do you have your bags displayed? |
| 18:52.25 | mikma | stavmar: Server not found |
| 18:52.33 | art3mis | do you actually not have an all in one mod? |
| 18:52.35 | stavmar | mikma: try again |
| 18:52.35 | Funkeh` | Where? |
| 18:52.50 | CIA-14 | 03hamunaptra * r47558 10fmBuffCheck/ (5 files): |
| 18:52.50 | CIA-14 | fmBuffCheck: |
| 18:52.50 | CIA-14 | - added scheduling capability (automatic buff checking every X minutes) |
| 18:52.52 | Funkeh` | Oh him |
| 18:52.54 | stavmar | Funkeh`: I want my UI to look like that, clean and dark |
| 18:53.04 | stavmar | very impressive |
| 18:53.09 | mikma | stavmar: same :O |
| 18:53.16 | Funkeh` | stavmar: in raid oldie http://img402.imageshack.us/img402/9403/ircy4.jpg |
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| 18:53.24 | Xinhuan | that is a lot of fubar plugins |
| 18:53.30 | Funkeh` | But like I said its pretty old, I've even changed servers since then. |
| 18:53.51 | stavmar | mikma: sorry not too sure what is up probably my hosting company |
| 18:54.19 | mikma | stavmar: well i'll try with ip |
| 18:54.21 | Xinhuan | Funkeh`: what font size is that chat |
| 18:54.23 | stavmar | Funkeh`: not too old, but you dont use grid anymore? |
| 18:54.32 | Funkeh` | Xinhuan: I hvae no idea, normal? ;p |
| 18:54.36 | stavmar | lol |
| 18:54.39 | Xinhuan | :o |
| 18:54.42 | Funkeh` | stavmar: I do use grid |
| 18:54.50 | stavmar | you like more than PRaid |
| 18:54.58 | Funkeh` | Yes |
| 18:55.08 | Funkeh` | Xinhuan: My chat frames are 12pt |
| 18:55.21 | Xinhuan | hmm |
| 18:55.28 | Xinhuan | looks smaller to me than that |
| 18:55.34 | Xinhuan | maybe its the resolution |
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| 18:55.53 | mikma | stavmar: no luck. |
| 18:55.59 | stavmar | http://incite-guild.org/forum/images/stavmar/Stav_raid_2007_03_28.jpg older one as well, but the theme of the UI is still in tact? |
| 18:56.09 | stavmar | mikma: maybe your ISP is blocking it lol |
| 18:56.16 | mikma | stavmar: maybe :D |
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| 18:59.10 | stavmar | Funkeh`: One thing I see about your addon list is that I have like 2x as many ace lib folders |
| 18:59.37 | Funkeh` | I don't use standalibelibraries I just isntall the ones I need manually. |
| 18:59.46 | Funkeh` | But it makes no difference to memory |
| 18:59.58 | Funkeh` | Since the ones you don't use are not loaded. |
| 19:01.38 | CIA-14 | 03eternally777 * r47559 10BigBrother/ (. libs/): |
| 19:01.38 | CIA-14 | BigBrother: |
| 19:01.38 | CIA-14 | - Removed duplicate `svn:externals` property from base directory, consolidating all externals into the property on the `/lib` directory. |
| 19:01.38 | CIA-14 | - Removed the `AceEvent-02.0` external, which turned out to be a duplicate directory for `AceEvent-2.0`, which had its own directory. |
| 19:01.47 | stavmar | Funkeh`: yeah that is true |
| 19:01.58 | stavmar | so simplechatmods, what is that? |
| 19:02.16 | art3mis | http://www.gothi.ca/Stuff/myui-shaman.jpg |
| 19:02.16 | Funkeh` | Evil addon that steals passwords. ;) |
| 19:02.19 | stavmar | i use prat are they comparable, and I know prat is mem hungry, but i dont think i could go without it |
| 19:02.22 | art3mis | thats my present ui |
| 19:02.30 | Kaelten | http://ace.pastey.net/72815 |
| 19:02.36 | Funkeh` | stavmar: simplechatmods is probably jsut as hungry |
| 19:02.51 | stavmar | art3mis: how can you read that font? |
| 19:02.52 | Funkeh` | stavmar: since memory grows the more stuff thats in your chatboxes |
| 19:03.00 | art3mis | heh on full screen it's not bad |
| 19:03.10 | Funkeh` | stavmar: I use it because I customized my own version for my guild |
| 19:03.10 | stavmar | Funkeh`: ok, was nto sure about that, but it makes sense |
| 19:03.12 | art3mis | i used to use a tsr for this font when i mudded so im used to it |
| 19:03.14 | NightHawkTheSane | art3mis: your font gives me a headache |
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| 19:03.55 | art3mis | your face makes me vomit a little in my mouth |
| 19:03.56 | stavmar | art3mis: where do your tankboxes and raid frames go? |
| 19:04.03 | CIA-14 | 03funkydude * r47560 10BigWigs/BlackTemple/Souls.lua: BigWigs: BlackTemple/Souls: Possible bugfix |
| 19:04.05 | art3mis | top right corner |
| 19:04.25 | art3mis | mt is center bottom and aprty is top left |
| 19:04.31 | stavmar | where are your buffs place, I cannot see them |
| 19:04.46 | Funkeh` | Your font is unreadable to me art3mis ;p |
| 19:04.49 | art3mis | right below the uf |
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| 19:04.57 | Xinhuan | Kaelten: is the "(l|L|j|J)" part needed for numerics? heh |
| 19:05.02 | stavmar | aah ok |
| 19:05.03 | Kaelten | not sure |
| 19:05.05 | art3mis | i didnt have any buffs atm |
| 19:05.05 | Kaelten | lol |
| 19:05.12 | Kaelten | its a copy of the python file |
| 19:05.16 | Kaelten | it needs adjusting |
| 19:05.25 | Xinhuan | that is just for complex numbers |
| 19:05.55 | stavmar | Funkeh`: have you been using squeenix from way back? did you ever try simple mini map? |
| 19:06.24 | Funkeh` | I used to use simpleminimap, then used my own minimap addon, then used squeenix |
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| 19:07.50 | evl | Anyway to change the sound that's played when you recieve a message? |
| 19:08.23 | Xinhuan | hook PlaySound |
| 19:13.00 | cncfanatics | that wouldnt let you change it |
| 19:13.11 | cncfanatics | its a secure func u cant taint it |
| 19:13.15 | Kaelten | http://fish.wowace.com/browse/WowAce/trunk/LibStub/LibStub.lua?r=47555 |
| 19:13.15 | cncfanatics | evl: change it in the mpq |
| 19:13.17 | Kaelten | check that out :) |
| 19:14.47 | NightHawkTheSane | Kaelten: neat. |
| 19:15.02 | NightHawkTheSane | Kaelten: now, you just need to get it to recognize the wow api. ;) |
| 19:15.30 | Kaelten | hehe |
| 19:16.02 | NightHawkTheSane | which, if you can edit the plugin via a reasonably sane method, probably isn't terribly hard |
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| 19:17.28 | Xinhuan | not sure if recognizing the wow API is a good idea, there's a few hundred of them lol |
| 19:18.10 | Kaelten | its a regex file basically |
| 19:18.35 | Xinhuan | still, wow API changes and updating it will be a pain |
| 19:19.00 | Kaelten | heh true |
| 19:19.07 | NightHawkTheSane | bet you could write a script to do it. |
| 19:19.09 | Kaelten | could be scripted of course |
| 19:19.12 | NightHawkTheSane | :) |
| 19:19.30 | Xinhuan | do you consider functions declared in framexml files as "wow api"? :) |
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| 19:20.52 | Kaelten | er |
| 19:23.00 | cncfanatics | ERROR The requested URL could not be retrieved |
| 19:23.06 | cncfanatics | http://fish.wowace.com/browse/WowAce/trunk/FlexBar2/Core.lua?r=47551 |
| 19:23.14 | cncfanatics | its down ? |
| 19:23.16 | Kaelten | restarting fisheye again |
| 19:23.23 | Kaelten | should be back up momentarily |
| 19:23.31 | Kaelten | no, I have to restart when I edit the syntax file |
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| 19:24.40 | Kaelten | cncfanatics: try now |
| 19:25.06 | Xinhuan | no syntax highlighting there |
| 19:25.49 | Kaelten | hrm, did I break it |
| 19:26.30 | Xinhuan | probably |
| 19:26.43 | Kaelten | hrm restarting it again |
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| 19:28.56 | kaiden | Oh noes! eePanels Chaos! |
| 19:28.57 | kaiden | :P |
| 19:29.12 | ulic | hehe, gotta read those warnings :P |
| 19:29.23 | kaiden | i haven't played in a while |
| 19:29.25 | kaiden | :/ |
| 19:29.27 | Xinhuan | cncfanatics: i was glancing at that link |
| 19:29.36 | kaiden | why didn't they just convert it over? |
| 19:29.41 | ulic | kaiden: I'd imagine you could roll back and it would be ok |
| 19:29.42 | Xinhuan | and looking at FlexBar2:RemoveByValue() |
| 19:29.55 | kaiden | that's kinda confusing to me if your gonna come out with a new version.. why not convert the old ui's |
| 19:29.56 | Xinhuan | table.remove(tbl, n); <-- what if n isn't a numeric index |
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| 19:30.32 | kaiden | especially when the new version doesn't look like it has any new features compared to the old one :P |
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| 19:31.06 | pastamancer | Xinhuan: tbl[n] = nil |
| 19:31.08 | ulic | kaiden: it does, check the toc file for the new forum thread, he lists changes there. |
| 19:31.14 | kaiden | ah ok |
| 19:31.28 | Xinhuan | pastamancer: its his code, i'm pointing out a possible flaw ;p |
| 19:31.33 | pastamancer | ah |
| 19:31.38 | pastamancer | need to scroll up more |
| 19:31.48 | Xinhuan | he may just want to tremove a numeric table |
| 19:32.00 | kaiden | ulic, it would have been great if he had made it so profiles could have been saved easily and pasted like pitbull does layouts :P |
| 19:32.56 | ulic | *shrug* I'm just another chump user :) Fortunetly for my my layout consists of 2 frames for most characters, 3 for one, so pretty easy for me to recreate. |
| 19:33.16 | kaiden | ulic, mine consisted of over 28 frames |
| 19:33.17 | kaiden | :( |
| 19:33.37 | ulic | ouch |
| 19:33.42 | Xinhuan | probably easier to open the savedvar file and copy it over ;p |
| 19:33.45 | ulic | maybe just roll back to the old version and don't update it. |
| 19:33.48 | Xinhuan | with wow not running |
| 19:34.09 | cncfanatics | hmmm for the syntax highlighting |
| 19:34.10 | ulic | kaiden: unless of course you really like the new features. |
| 19:34.13 | cncfanatics | it'd be nice if functions lighted up pink |
| 19:34.19 | kaiden | oh did he just change the name of the savedvar? |
| 19:34.24 | kaiden | and not the configuration of it? |
| 19:34.26 | Xinhuan | cncfanatics - did you read what i said 15 lines up ? |
| 19:35.04 | dodga | Hm, Al'ar down. Kinda disappointed. Thought it would be harder, but 3rd try ever :o |
| 19:35.15 | ulic | kaiden: hmm, I think I see what you're saying, I'm not sure if running the new one will corrupt the old SV or not. |
| 19:35.51 | Xinhuan | Kaelten: its highlighting the 2 in FlexBar2:etc() as a number now |
| 19:36.43 | kaiden | ulic, nah, it's all good |
| 19:36.46 | kaiden | it was time for a new ui anyway |
| 19:37.00 | cncfanatics | Kaelten, that highlight plugin is kinda bad imo :p |
| 19:37.05 | kaiden | i just really liked the feng shui of my old one :) (i think that's how you spell it anyway) |
| 19:37.11 | stavmar | which mod shows the number of the mouseover item your alts have in the tooltip |
| 19:37.53 | kebinusan | bleh I need to rework my ui or somethin |
| 19:38.37 | NeoTron | wonder if anyone has done a good comparision between saccing a succubus and saccing a felhunter |
| 19:38.42 | NeoTron | in terms of sustained warlock dps |
| 19:39.08 | Kaelten | it does have a pretty good dif view though |
| 19:39.10 | Kaelten | http://fish.wowace.com/browse/WowAce/trunk/LibStub/LibStub.lua?r1=47511&r2=47555 |
| 19:39.29 | kebinusan | NeoTron, I think most decent dps spreadsheets offer some comparison |
| 19:39.37 | NeoTron | mm that's an idea |
| 19:39.48 | NeoTron | although if they do, it's a "best case" type comparision |
| 19:40.00 | kebinusan | of course |
| 19:40.03 | NeoTron | meaning a case where lifetap == lost dps rather than "something to do while you can't dps" |
| 19:40.15 | ulic | kaiden: got any SS of your old one? I like checking out others UI's. |
| 19:40.38 | kaiden | ulic, remember caiths latest ui? |
| 19:40.49 | kaiden | I saw it 1 time and remade it from memory |
| 19:40.52 | kaiden | took me lots of frames |
| 19:40.52 | kaiden | lol |
| 19:41.01 | ulic | I look at alot, but don't memorize who made them :) |
| 19:41.11 | kadrahil | kaiden: linky |
| 19:41.12 | kaiden | let me get a screenshot |
| 19:44.30 | Mecdemort | ckknight: Is it possible in JokerConfig that if desc is nil then it takes the value of name? I don't know how many times i've seen them with identicle values |
| 19:44.42 | kaiden | http://ohnoes.cc/screenshots/Jasti_01.jpg or http://ohnoes.cc/screenshots/Nooble_02.jpg |
| 19:46.36 | kaiden | oooh.. he added mouse movement and resizing ! |
| 19:47.13 | ulic | kaiden: really 28 frames in there? WoW. It's people like you that make me want a Widescreen monitor, I can't wait until I have money again :P |
| 19:47.24 | kaiden | oh man...... that makes it sooooo much easier |
| 19:48.55 | Tinyboom | kaiden: what addon is telling you how many repetitions u have to do on rep increase? |
| 19:49.01 | kaiden | Tinyboom, rep2 |
| 19:49.10 | kaiden | http://files.wowace.com/Rep2/Rep2.zip |
| 19:49.10 | Tinyboom | thanks |
| 19:49.14 | ckknight | Mecdemort: ah, I'm not sure I want to put that... |
| 19:49.22 | ckknight | seeing as there _should_ be a description |
| 19:49.34 | kaiden | ulic, you should get one, they are horribly cheap these days |
| 19:49.55 | kaiden | ulic, ie i bought this one when they were 399.95 now they are 179-200 |
| 19:49.58 | ulic | I'm looking for work. After I find a job and pay off some bills it's on the top of my toys list :) |
| 19:50.01 | kaiden | and that was only 3 months ago |
| 19:50.13 | Mecdemort | true enough, but there are a lot of options that don't need a description and just have the 2 equal |
| 19:50.16 | kaiden | ulic, there ya go, but i'd wait if you are going to buy a new one til you can afford a 28" one |
| 19:50.19 | kaiden | they are only 600 now |
| 19:50.34 | kaiden | i've got 2 on order and can't wait to get them :) |
| 19:50.46 | ulic | I can't handle that big of a screen in my face, I'm think like 19-20" |
| 19:50.51 | kaiden | had to spend all of my savings to beef up my computer the other night haha :) |
| 19:51.05 | ulic | I just like the WS resolution |
| 19:51.15 | ulic | more screen real estate |
| 19:54.58 | Silviu- | http://img259.imageshack.us/my.php?image=wowscrnshot082607204622mu3.jpg |
| 19:57.07 | Chompers | attempt 5 on mag |
| 19:57.14 | Chompers | stupid adds :/ |
| 19:57.18 | Silviu- | :))) |
| 19:58.50 | CIA-14 | 03kaybe * r47561 10Klappa/ (6 files): (log message trimmed) |
| 19:58.50 | CIA-14 | Klappa: |
| 19:58.50 | CIA-14 | -complete rework of Klappa |
| 19:58.50 | CIA-14 | -updated localization |
| 19:58.50 | CIA-14 | -new icon |
| 19:58.51 | CIA-14 | -new options |
| 19:58.53 | CIA-14 | -possible to add/delete pop up buttons |
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| 19:59.37 | Silviu- | Comments on my ui ? |
| 19:59.37 | Silviu- | ;) |
| 19:59.44 | kebinusan | http://www.shutupandpull.com/files/check_111.jpg lol |
| 20:01.01 | Tinyboom | Silviu-: what font on combat text? ;) |
| 20:01.16 | Silviu- | Tinyboom Bloody |
| 20:01.42 | Tinyboom | Silviu-: thanks:) btw: why no viewport? |
| 20:02.21 | kadrahil | all you alliance people :X |
| 20:02.39 | ckknight | lol, kebinusan |
| 20:02.52 | ckknight | that ends up being just 1/5 of a cent |
| 20:03.08 | kadrahil | kebinusan: hahah |
| 20:03.54 | Silviu- | Tinyboom why should i use one ? |
| 20:04.01 | NightHawkTheSane | kebinusan: xkcd wins. :) |
| 20:04.08 | Silviu- | Tinyboom i want a "view" of the screen not a black bar :) |
| 20:04.19 | kebinusan | NightHawkTheSane, yeah |
| 20:04.19 | kadrahil | Silviu-: who is Ringo? horde? |
| 20:04.34 | Silviu- | kadrahil no ? alliance |
| 20:04.35 | kadrahil | oh |
| 20:04.40 | kadrahil | sorry, didn't look at party frames |
| 20:04.42 | kadrahil | just saw the emotes |
| 20:04.44 | Silviu- | ^^ |
| 20:05.06 | Silviu- | a ugly gnom |
| 20:05.06 | Silviu- | ;p |
| 20:05.23 | kadrahil | so can the other faction read any emote text you type, or just the built in ones? |
| 20:05.32 | NightHawkTheSane | only built in |
| 20:05.33 | kadrahil | like if you /e wants to have your babies |
| 20:05.41 | NightHawkTheSane | custom emotes come off as "so and so makes some strange gestures" or some suchy |
| 20:05.47 | kadrahil | ahh |
| 20:06.08 | CIA-14 | 03evilelvis * r47562 10eePanels/core.lua: eePanels: small fix for insets not being used for globally created panels |
| 20:06.21 | kadrahil | i was all like /e wants to help when a 5 man group from my guild was doing the same quest line for the ogri'la pre-reqs as an alliance 5 man |
| 20:06.30 | CIA-14 | 03kaybe * r47563 10Klappa/ (. Klappa.toc): |
| 20:06.30 | CIA-14 | Klappa: |
| 20:06.30 | CIA-14 | -updated .toc |
| 20:06.30 | CIA-14 | -removed some unused externals |
| 20:06.43 | Silviu- | And u was wondering why they did not see ? ;) |
| 20:06.47 | Silviu- | Or .. understand ;p |
| 20:06.52 | kadrahil | well, we had a truce anyway |
| 20:06.57 | kadrahil | guess they got the idea |
| 20:07.14 | kadrahil | gotta love xteaming |
| 20:07.29 | *** join/#wowace Elkano (n=elkano@ip-213-135-2-189.handshake.de) |
| 20:07.45 | kadrahil | that one fight where you have to stand in the flames of the pentegram, they had 4 in the circles and wouldn't start it for some reason |
| 20:07.52 | kadrahil | so one of our guys jumped in and started it, haha |
| 20:08.40 | kadrahil | yes i am really bored at work waiting for this kernel to compile |
| 20:09.28 | kaiden | ulic, yay got my left chat frame recreated :P |
| 20:09.53 | ulic | hehe, one step at a time :) |
| 20:10.03 | ulic | my 3 panels are done |
| 20:12.07 | Silviu- | I have to do it again too |
| 20:12.09 | Silviu- | tomorrow :) |
| 20:12.09 | CIA-14 | 03evilelvis * r47564 10eePanels/core.lua: eePanels: bugfix for deleting a panel from its individual dewdrop menu |
| 20:12.18 | Silviu- | Now i don`t update since i`m raiding ;p |
| 20:12.27 | kaiden | ulic, actually it took 5 panels for the chat frame ;) |
| 20:12.40 | Silviu- | At me 3 |
| 20:12.41 | Silviu- | :) |
| 20:12.46 | kaiden | ulic, i create the borders strip by strip since you can't make a square border in eePanels :( |
| 20:12.48 | kebinusan | hmm, someone give me some suggestions on my UI setup http://img505.imageshack.us/img505/9830/wowscrnshot080107135245em8.jpg |
| 20:12.52 | Silviu- | I have 6 only total |
| 20:13.04 | kaiden | someone should really design a square border texture for eePanels to save a lot of people a lot of trouble |
| 20:13.08 | Pkekyo | I keep finding myself running out of things to do... /sigh |
| 20:13.21 | ulic | kaiden: hmm, maybe custom borders should be support, would save you alot of time and panels :P |
| 20:13.48 | kaiden | ulic, indeed it would, i asked evil elvis a long time ago.. he told me no |
| 20:13.49 | kaiden | :P |
| 20:14.01 | Silviu- | kebinusan strange ui :) |
| 20:14.07 | kaiden | it would save a ton of people a LOT of trouble actually, nearly every eePanel based ui shows square borders |
| 20:14.13 | kebinusan | yeah, it sort of developed that way |
| 20:14.23 | kebinusan | I should just gut it and start over, but I cant bring myself to do it |
| 20:14.35 | Silviu- | I could not eighter |
| 20:14.36 | Silviu- | :P |
| 20:14.44 | Silviu- | But i had to remake some ... |
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| 20:15.21 | Silviu- | Since i buyed this new comp 3 days ago and pushed my resolution to 1280X1024 :) |
| 20:15.43 | *** join/#wowace Kilroo (n=Kilroo@cpe-071-076-173-175.triad.res.rr.com) |
| 20:15.55 | Silviu- | And tomorrow redo the eepanels |
| 20:15.56 | Silviu- | :) |
| 20:16.32 | NightHawkTheSane | "bought" |
| 20:17.22 | kadrahil | so we only got gruul down to 45% last night :( |
| 20:17.36 | kadrahil | wtb more dps |
| 20:17.54 | kadrahil | and people that know how to get out of freaking cave ins |
| 20:18.15 | Silviu- | thx NightHawkTheSane :) |
| 20:18.24 | kadrahil | it's like all the melee just stands there |
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| 20:23.58 | kaiden | the new eePanels confuses me |
| 20:24.07 | kaiden | how can horizontal on 1 texture be a negative number |
| 20:24.14 | kaiden | and on another texture it's a positive number |
| 20:24.44 | kaiden | oh n/m i forgot he grows from the inside out now |
| 20:26.09 | kaiden | still would have been nice if we could copy the entire panel instead of setting by setting |
| 20:26.44 | SaladFork | Make a suggestion, ;) |
| 20:30.31 | kergoth | hmm, i wonder if an owl/bat would be more useful for farming than my hunter's boar.. boar's charge is awesome, but its huge threat on just one target... when you're killing lots of easy mobs after another, faster than the charge cooldown.. hmm |
| 20:31.51 | kaiden | question for you guys that are familiar with the way frames work, why is it that a frame that's 10 pixels high becomes 5 pixels high depending on the vertical position? |
| 20:31.58 | SaladFork | What would an owl/bat bring that a boar can't? |
| 20:32.10 | sb | mhmh |
| 20:32.12 | NightHawkTheSane | SaladFork: screech |
| 20:32.14 | sb | vashj tainted core |
| 20:32.38 | sb | is it possible to echo that 'you have the core' stuff only if core is really usable? |
| 20:32.54 | sb | (so dont print on out of range issues) |
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| 20:38.05 | cncfanatics | whats a good quest tracker ? |
| 20:38.06 | *** join/#wowace Morghus (n=changeme@213.82-134-68.bkkb.no) |
| 20:38.09 | cncfanatics | I recently started lvl'ing again |
| 20:38.10 | cncfanatics | so i'd need one |
| 20:38.27 | Hjalte | I like the one in questsfu |
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| 20:39.58 | kadrahil | nquestlog is good if you like the full blown monkeyquest style tracker |
| 20:40.10 | kadrahil | i prefer questsfu though |
| 20:45.33 | kaiden | you know that's one of the crappiest thing about the game, none of the quest trackers feel right |
| 20:45.42 | kaiden | QuestsFU is by far the best but it still doesn't feel right |
| 20:48.05 | CIA-14 | 03lilcure * r47565 10TunnelVision/TunnelVision.toc: TunnelVision: changed SharedMedia to SharedMediaLib in .toc |
| 20:51.31 | Pkekyo | anyone know a way to get a screenie off VLC? |
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| 20:52.29 | kaiden | VLC = Videolan? |
| 20:52.44 | Pkekyo | correctemundo |
| 20:52.54 | kaiden | just print screen and go download irfanview |
| 20:52.57 | kaiden | and paste it into it and save it |
| 20:53.01 | kaiden | http://www.irfanview.com |
| 20:53.14 | Pkekyo | I hate infanfuckingview :< |
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| 20:55.11 | Pkekyo | any other way? |
| 20:56.48 | cncfanatics | ~seen Nargiddley |
| 20:56.50 | purl | nargiddley <n=narg@203-97-236-74.cable.telstraclear.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 8h 54m 49s ago, saying: 'hm yeah, so it wouldnt work anyway'. |
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| 21:00.03 | ckknight | hey all |
| 21:00.05 | ckknight | how's everyone doing? |
| 21:00.35 | Pkekyo | kaiden: doesn't work |
| 21:01.59 | CIA-14 | 03eraslin * r47566 10Bidder/DKPBrowser/browserframe.lua: Bidder: Flip the DKPBrowsers scroll up/down, so that they're actually correct. |
| 21:02.02 | kaiden | ah you may have to find something that can capture DirectX as well |
| 21:02.06 | kaiden | let me look for something |
| 21:02.19 | Pkekyo | that may be it |
| 21:02.24 | cncfanatics | whats a good image hosting site ? |
| 21:02.29 | kaiden | just google something that can screenshot DirectX |
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| 21:02.57 | Xinhuan | fraps is one such program |
| 21:03.00 | Pkekyo | cncfanatics: flickr.com? |
| 21:03.10 | Xinhuan | i use it to take screenshots |
| 21:03.15 | Xinhuan | (and fraps videos) |
| 21:03.41 | cncfanatics | hmmmz, long live linux |
| 21:04.04 | Pkekyo | sigh...don't have my registered fraps anymore |
| 21:04.21 | Xinhuan | still can use unregistered one to screenshot |
| 21:05.31 | Pkekyo | although that may be so, I've got a gazillion bad experiences with unregistered fraps versions in conflict with registered ones |
| 21:05.45 | cncfanatics | 2.4mb screenshot |
| 21:05.46 | cncfanatics | ouch |
| 21:06.00 | Xinhuan | lol@tga screenshots |
| 21:06.16 | Gnarfoz | why... would someone use fraps for screenshots |
| 21:06.16 | Pkekyo | tga is a shitty format |
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| 21:06.27 | Pkekyo | Gnarfoz: agreed |
| 21:06.36 | Gnarfoz | at least for a program that outputs screenshots in a lossless format on its own? :D |
| 21:06.46 | Xinhuan | Gnarfoz: because its convenient? |
| 21:06.59 | Gnarfoz | I don't see how :D |
| 21:07.13 | Xinhuan | it saves it in jpg directly, and at 80% quality i think, directly |
| 21:07.19 | Gnarfoz | yeah, which sucks. |
| 21:07.22 | Xinhuan | without me having to convert them for display on the web |
| 21:07.27 | Gnarfoz | why would you want low quality screenshots? :D |
| 21:07.34 | Xinhuan | because its for web purposes usually |
| 21:07.40 | Gnarfoz | err right |
| 21:07.45 | Gnarfoz | at 80% jpeg that's still not small |
| 21:07.55 | CIA-14 | 03evilelvis * r47567 10eePanels2/: Created folder remotely |
| 21:08.27 | Xinhuan | if i want a lossless screenshot, i would just use the wow-ingame printscreen and produce a tga |
| 21:08.27 | Xinhuan | in wow that is |
| 21:08.30 | Gnarfoz | (and wow can produce jpegs, too, woot) |
| 21:09.55 | kaiden | and this is the UI remade new eePanels style! |
| 21:09.55 | Xinhuan | btw, fraps can also produce TGA, PNG or BMP screenshots, JPG is just one of the 4 options |
| 21:10.04 | kaiden | http://ohnoes.cc/screenshots/Jasti_02.jpg |
| 21:10.19 | Xinhuan | so its not true that fraps will produce screenshots of lower quality |
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| 21:11.25 | kebinusan | hhm I just noticed fubar doesnt support sharedmedia for textures does it |
| 21:11.47 | Pkekyo | anyone able to explain to me why fraps is popping screenies at half the size it should be, whilst the screenies themselves ar scewed? |
| 21:12.01 | Shirik | your resolution, most likely |
| 21:12.09 | Xinhuan | game resolution |
| 21:12.14 | kebinusan | Why use fraps to make screenshots? |
| 21:12.17 | Pkekyo | well, it's not a game |
| 21:12.23 | Shirik | if you're not on a 64-bit OS, fraps will take any resolutions above a certain value (I think 1024x768) and half them |
| 21:12.24 | durcyn | fraps can be set to half-resolution |
| 21:12.27 | durcyn | and it is by default |
| 21:12.38 | Pkekyo | gaah |
| 21:12.41 | Xinhuan | Shirik: not the latest version |
| 21:12.54 | Shirik | Xinhuan: Only the latest version with 64-bit OS will get around that |
| 21:12.59 | ckknight | Shirik: half is a noun, halve is a verb |
| 21:13.00 | Shirik | iirc |
| 21:13.02 | Shirik | I know |
| 21:13.03 | Xinhuan | i don't use a 64-bit OS |
| 21:13.05 | Shirik | I was going to correct that >.> |
| 21:13.18 | kebinusan | kaiden, what do you use for that exp bar? |
| 21:13.19 | Pkekyo | and how the flying fuck do I disable that? sooo much trouble for a lousy fucking screenshot! GAH |
| 21:13.21 | Shirik | then Xinhuan challenged my authoritoroi |
| 21:13.42 | Shirik | Pkekyo: Use the in-game screenshot functionality? |
| 21:13.52 | Xinhuan | i have taken screenshots with fraps before on a 2560x1200 resolution |
| 21:14.03 | Xinhuan | i.e 2 monitors in dual mode |
| 21:14.05 | Pkekyo | like previously stated several times: THERE_IS_NO_GAME |
| 21:14.28 | Xinhuan | just use windows print-screen then zzz |
| 21:14.28 | Shirik | 14(1711:1011:2414) 11-› 14[notice from NickServ14]: Password accepted - you are now recognized |
| 21:14.29 | Shirik | 14(1711:1011:2414) 11-› services. sets mode: +e6 |
| 21:14.29 | Shirik | 14(1711:1011:2414) 11-› joining 7 channels |
| 21:14.39 | kadrahil | Shirik: fail |
| 21:15.05 | Shirik | i.e., I just got here |
| 21:15.08 | Shirik | also, if there's no game |
| 21:15.11 | Shirik | why not just print screen? |
| 21:15.31 | Pkekyo | does_not_work <--- I wouldn't even consider the REMOTE possiblity of using fraps if it was possible to just press print screen |
| 21:15.41 | Xinhuan | what program is this? :o |
| 21:15.42 | Shirik | ~doesnotwork |
| 21:15.47 | Pkekyo | VLC |
| 21:15.49 | Shirik | ~doesntwork |
| 21:15.49 | purl | Look buddy, doesn't work is a strong statement. Does it sit on the couch all day? Does it want more money? Is it on IRC all the time? Be specific! Examples of what doesn't work (or the URL) tend to help too, or pastebin the config if that's the problem |
| 21:16.01 | Shirik | =P |
| 21:16.23 | Shirik | ok, now it's making a little more sense |
| 21:16.36 | Shirik | still I've always found fraps's screenshot mechanism to be slightly screwed |
| 21:16.43 | Shirik | what are you trying to do, make a shot of a video? |
| 21:16.45 | stavmar | did you guys read this http://www.gameriot.com/blogs/Aleph/WoW-at-a-Standstill-as-Server-Crash-Exploit-Spreads/#comments anyone know how it happened? |
| 21:16.46 | Nargiddley | if you turn off video acceleration in VLC you should be able to get ss normally |
| 21:17.22 | Xinhuan | stavmar: yes |
| 21:17.26 | Pkekyo | I've been specific and made sense several times allready....first time I got directed to using IrfanView - which was utter shit...then fraps, which completely fucking scew the screenie and downsize it to a fucktarded size |
| 21:17.26 | Pkekyo | GAAAAAAAAH |
| 21:17.58 | Xinhuan | the exploit is accurate |
| 21:17.58 | Shirik | Xinhuan: My fault |
| 21:18.01 | stavmar | Xinhuan: was it last night? |
| 21:18.04 | Shirik | It's dual core CPUs |
| 21:18.06 | Shirik | not 64-bit |
| 21:18.09 | Shirik | You have a dual core? |
| 21:18.13 | Xinhuan | it was about yesterday |
| 21:18.31 | Xinhuan | yes i have a dual core - but the halving of resolution only applies to frapsed videos - not screenshots |
| 21:18.42 | Xinhuan | i bought this dual core PC only 2 weeks ago |
| 21:18.43 | kadrahil | my realm went offline several times last night |
| 21:18.47 | kadrahil | and was lagging like crazy |
| 21:18.49 | Xinhuan | before that i was using a AMD-1800+ |
| 21:18.57 | Shirik | I have no problems with my servers |
| 21:18.58 | Xinhuan | and still can take screenshots at fuill size |
| 21:18.59 | Cidan | There is a crash exploit going around right now |
| 21:19.00 | Xinhuan | no matter the resolution |
| 21:19.02 | Shirik | of course, there's nobody on it either |
| 21:19.03 | Cidan | Anyone can crash the servers |
| 21:19.05 | kadrahil | Cidan: yeah i saw |
| 21:19.09 | Shirik | so.... nobody crashes them :D |
| 21:19.23 | Cidan | I'm sure they'll have it fixed soon |
| 21:19.26 | kadrahil | i logged back in after one and ended up on the other side of BEM from where i was |
| 21:19.32 | kadrahil | :( |
| 21:19.36 | kadrahil | fat kid mount ftl |
| 21:20.20 | CIA-14 | 03mecdemort * r47568 10Baggins_AnywhereBags/Core.lua: Baggins_AnywhereBags: - Added empty bank and bag slot counts. |
| 21:20.30 | Pkekyo | One last try: I am running at a resolution of 1280x1024. I am attempting to grab a screenie of a frame from VLC. How to do so? |
| 21:20.44 | CIA-14 | 03evilelvis * r47569 10eePanels2/ (11 files in 3 dirs): eePanels2: initial import |
| 21:20.45 | kergoth | is there a small addon to just show pt3's instance drop info in item tooltips? |
| 21:20.59 | Gnarfoz | Pkekyo: trying to take a screenshot of a video? |
| 21:21.25 | Pkekyo | Gnarfoz: YES! |
| 21:21.28 | Gnarfoz | how "not working" is the windows print-screen functionality? does it take a screenshot, but the video area is black? |
| 21:22.17 | Gnarfoz | Pkekyo? :) |
| 21:22.27 | lhunath | am I allowed to mention an ACE uploader I've written in java without being scolded for advertisement? :P |
| 21:22.39 | Tornhoof | most video players have integrated ss capabilities ;) |
| 21:22.41 | Gnarfoz | just spell it Ace and you'll be fine |
| 21:22.42 | ckknight | Ace, not ACE |
| 21:22.45 | Gnarfoz | :D |
| 21:22.50 | lhunath | Right. |
| 21:22.58 | Gnarfoz | Tornhoof: that, too ^^ |
| 21:23.12 | Pkekyo | Gnarfoz: something like that...the frame I'm taking a screenie of shows up, but won't be saved properly (as if the video frame from vlc itself was just put there as an overlaying panel) |
| 21:23.23 | Gnarfoz | Pkekyo: then your solution is: TURN OFF OVERLAY MODE AND BEGONE! |
| 21:23.36 | kadrahil | BY THE LIGHT OF THE MOON |
| 21:23.43 | Pkekyo | overlay mode? |
| 21:23.45 | Pkekyo | say wha? |
| 21:23.52 | Gnarfoz | Pkekyo: should be somewhere in VLCs options |
| 21:23.56 | Gnarfoz | (and those are messy) |
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| 21:24.29 | Gnarfoz | VLC tells your graphics card do draw the video in a certain area that VLC colors a certain way, hence making it actually an overlay ^^ |
| 21:24.30 | lhunath | meh. I'm not getting my confirmation mail from the wowace forums. |
| 21:25.12 | Pkekyo | Gnarfoz: didn't work |
| 21:25.22 | Gnarfoz | Pkekyo: restarted vlc after changing that? |
| 21:25.43 | CIA-14 | 03thrillseeker * r47570 10ItemValue/ItemValue-deDE.lua: |
| 21:25.43 | CIA-14 | ItemValue: |
| 21:25.43 | CIA-14 | - Translated almost all Jewels to deDE. There was a bug in though (as in: was there before I tinkered with the files...), that I could net (yet?) fix. |
| 21:25.47 | Pkekyo | not really |
| 21:25.50 | Gnarfoz | try |
| 21:25.54 | lhunath | anyway, anyone interested in an ace updater and wowroster uploader combined in one (with a fairly nice-looking UI) might want to have a quick peek at jUniUploader: http://lhunath.lyndir.com/jUniUploader |
| 21:26.03 | Gnarfoz | *looking* |
| 21:26.08 | Gnarfoz | nice page oO :) |
| 21:26.14 | CIA-14 | 03siz * r47571 10FuBar_AddonSpamFu/ (. AddonSpamFu.lua FuBar_AddonSpamFu.toc embeds.xml): |
| 21:26.14 | CIA-14 | FuBar_AddonSpamFu: Initial Commit |
| 21:26.14 | CIA-14 | - Keep track of who is sending Addon Messages |
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| 21:26.37 | lhunath | heh, thanks. |
| 21:28.04 | Pkekyo | holy jumping fucking jesus, you're my hero Gnarfoz |
| 21:28.09 | Gnarfoz | =D |
| 21:28.55 | CIA-14 | 03evilelvis * r47572 10eePanels/ (14 files in 3 dirs): eePanels: revert to old code |
| 21:32.11 | Pkekyo | been trying to get a screenie of that haircut |
| 21:32.15 | Pkekyo | for fucking ages |
| 21:32.36 | Gnarfoz | haircut? :> |
| 21:32.55 | Pkekyo | you seen Smokin' Aces? |
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| 21:32.57 | Gnarfoz | no |
| 21:33.06 | Gnarfoz | btw, what Tornhoof said was also correct - VLC of all players should have integrated screenshot capabilities |
| 21:33.07 | Pkekyo | sec, gonna see if I can find a pic |
| 21:33.12 | Pkekyo | agreed |
| 21:33.34 | Pkekyo | http://farm1.static.flickr.com/146/427886608_ec1f9195dc.jpg <--- haircut+beard of the guy in the middle |
| 21:33.57 | CIA-14 | 03thrillseeker * r47573 10ItemValue/ItemValue-deDE.lua: |
| 21:33.57 | CIA-14 | ItemValue: |
| 21:33.58 | CIA-14 | - fixed that previous bug |
| 21:34.48 | Chompers | mag down |
| 21:34.50 | Chompers | first night too |
| 21:34.56 | Chompers | man that was fun |
| 21:35.06 | Pkekyo | congrats |
| 21:35.46 | kergoth | grats |
| 21:35.53 | kadrahil | http://talents.utimer.ppvh.eu/?p=vt&i=35810 |
| 21:35.57 | kadrahil | heh |
| 21:36.13 | kadrahil | did they even release the talents yet? or is that site a joke? |
| 21:36.15 | Pkekyo | kadrahil: I've got a better one...gimme a sec |
| 21:36.23 | Pkekyo | I'll answer in a sec |
| 21:36.39 | Pkekyo | http://talents.utimer.ppvh.eu/?p=vt&i=34240&b=9y |
| 21:36.50 | Pkekyo | if you can't tell from that, I guess you're better off not knowing... |
| 21:36.51 | kadrahil | haha, the bottom talent in the BM tree is funny |
| 21:36.53 | kadrahil | wtb that talent |
| 21:36.55 | kadrahil | Pkekyo: yeah |
| 21:36.59 | kadrahil | Pkekyo: i figured it out pretty quick |
| 21:37.29 | kadrahil | haha |
| 21:37.35 | Pkekyo | I kinda like that warrior tree tbh :> |
| 21:38.13 | Pkekyo | Titan Grip is any warrior's wet dream |
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| 21:38.27 | Pkekyo | if only for pure looks, I'd kill for it |
| 21:38.28 | cncfanatics | wow crashes FTL |
| 21:38.29 | cncfanatics | ffs |
| 21:38.40 | kadrahil | Wild Instincts is cool |
| 21:39.01 | kadrahil | Shoot for the Head, haha |
| 21:41.19 | Pkekyo | Warrior's Protection Tree - Tier One: 0/1 Points: Fuzzy Bunnies. Grants the user a free transfer to a PvE server. :> |
| 21:41.35 | NightHawkTheSane | I'd totally take that. >.> |
| 21:42.10 | CIA-14 | 03evilelvis * r47574 10eePanels2/ (5 files in 2 dirs): eePanels2: converted all eePanels references to eePanels2 |
| 21:42.13 | Pkekyo | lmao |
| 21:42.28 | Pkekyo | agreed, I wanna rock pvp ranks x) |
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| 21:49.13 | CIA-14 | 03evilelvis * r47575 10eePanels2/core.lua: eePanels2: small localization fix |
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| 22:02.00 | CIA-14 | 03siz * r47576 10FuBar_AddonSpamFu/ (. AddonSpamFu.lua): FuBar_AddonSpamFu: -Fixed Externals and Sorting by Name |
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| 22:08.21 | cncfanatics | Nargiddley, ping |
| 22:09.12 | Nargiddley | cncfanatics, pong |
| 22:09.45 | CIA-14 | 03evilelvis * r47577 10eePanels2/ (core.lua guideFrame.lua): eePanels2: fix for parenting errors |
| 22:11.35 | cncfanatics | found a bug in waterfall and got a feature request |
| 22:12.04 | cncfanatics | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:12.11 | cncfanatics | that should open the groupctrl tab yes ? |
| 22:12.53 | Nargiddley | if groupctrl is the id, yes |
| 22:13.05 | cncfanatics | it only works if the window is already open |
| 22:13.15 | cncfanatics | I call it the first time, it opens the window as if no args were passed |
| 22:13.21 | cncfanatics | I do it again, it switches to groupctrl |
| 22:13.22 | Nargiddley | k |
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| 22:16.07 | Yssaril | is there anway to change the text justification on a button? |
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| 22:16.58 | Industrial | http://forums.wow-europe.com/thread.html?topicId=612472455&sid=1 |
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| 22:17.01 | ckknight_ | Yssaril: button:GetFontString():SetJustifyH |
| 22:17.04 | ckknight_ | afaik |
| 22:17.33 | Yssaril | ahhh cool thaks man btw what happend you clone yourself? |
| 22:17.41 | Yssaril | nm :P |
| 22:17.46 | ckknight | Yssaril: I'm wardriving, actually |
| 22:17.52 | Yssaril | hehe |
| 22:18.00 | ckknight | my position was compromised, so I had to relocate |
| 22:22.34 | kebinusan | http://www.shutupandpull.com/files/lickable_964.jpg ... is about all I can say about that |
| 22:23.23 | kebinusan | apparently its an old hoax tho |
| 22:23.30 | ckknight | lol, yea, I've seen that |
| 22:23.47 | NightHawkTheSane | "He's the weapons officer, you'd think he'd ALREADY be prepared to fire?" "Indeed." |
| 22:24.26 | CIA-14 | 03nargiddley * r47578 10Waterfall-1.0/Waterfall-1.0/Waterfall-1.0.lua: Waterfall-1.0: Fix Opening to a specific pane when not using aceoptions |
| 22:26.24 | cncfanatics | Nargiddley, thanks |
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| 22:26.28 | cncfanatics | I can implement my new feature now |
| 22:29.06 | cncfanatics | Nargiddley, could I ask u somethinge lse too , |
| 22:29.27 | cncfanatics | s/lse too/else too/ |
| 22:30.39 | cncfanatics | Nargiddley, just tested, its still buggy |
| 22:31.55 | cncfanatics | .... |
| 22:32.00 | SaladFork | Hmmm |
| 22:32.08 | SaladFork | s/Hmmm/Is amazed at some things that purl can do.../ |
| 22:32.35 | NightHawkTheSane | SaladFork: what, like extremely basic substitution? :P |
| 22:32.44 | SaladFork | Well, I wasn't expecting it |
| 22:32.53 | SaladFork | And purl certianly didn't do it until recently |
| 22:33.14 | cncfanatics | purl has been doing that since the dawn of time |
| 22:33.15 | Nargiddley | its done it as long as i remember |
| 22:33.19 | cncfanatics | (at least since I joined this chan over a year ago |
| 22:33.24 | cncfanatics | Nargiddley, still not working |
| 22:33.30 | Nargiddley | not working how ? |
| 22:33.30 | cncfanatics | ur fix seems to be bad :( |
| 22:33.35 | cncfanatics | still the same |
| 22:33.53 | cncfanatics | I have to call FlexBar2.Waterfall:Open("FlexBar2", "buttonctrl"); twice |
| 22:34.05 | cncfanatics | first time it'll open the window without buttonctrl active, the second time it'll go to buttonctrl |
| 22:34.15 | Nargiddley | no idea then, i'll look later |
| 22:34.52 | cncfanatics | need to test it on something |
| 22:34.54 | cncfanatics | ? |
| 22:35.39 | Nargiddley | it must be deeper than the small bug i fixed, its working the same as the AceOptions now. so should work |
| 22:36.28 | cncfanatics | hmmm |
| 22:36.32 | cncfanatics | let me make sure I did update |
| 22:37.44 | cncfanatics | ok configrmed |
| 22:37.54 | cncfanatics | I have some code to open buttonctrl when a button is right clicked |
| 22:38.21 | cncfanatics | http://cnc.pastey.net/72824 |
| 22:38.27 | cncfanatics | I call it twice atm, it works |
| 22:38.34 | cncfanatics | I call it once, the gui just opens not in button control |
| 22:38.38 | Nargiddley | i'll look at it later |
| 22:44.37 | ckknight | cya all later, battery's dead |
| 22:44.50 | cncfanatics | hmmm, what event can fire when a spellcast ends except UNIT_SPELLCAST_END ? |
| 22:45.55 | [dRaCo] | that successful thingy? |
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| 22:48.53 | cncfanatics | hmmm |
| 22:49.03 | cncfanatics | well, as soon as a spellcast is being delayed UNIT_SPELLCAST_END seems to get buggy |
| 22:49.09 | cncfanatics | and trigger wrong, so searching better events |
| 22:51.49 | [dRaCo] | UNIT_SPELLCAST_SUCCEEDED |
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| 22:52.48 | [dRaCo] | and if you want canceled spells, too: UNIT_SPELLCAST_STOP |
| 22:53.15 | Nargiddley | cncfanatics, what tree type do you use ? |
| 22:53.33 | cncfanatics | ehm |
| 22:53.46 | cncfanatics | waterfall tree with a buildwaterfalltree function |
| 22:53.55 | cncfanatics | no aceoptions |
| 22:53.56 | Nargiddley | sections or not ? |
| 22:54.22 | Nargiddley | cause :Open("BagginsEdit","Bag1") works fine for me |
| 22:54.33 | cncfanatics | http://cnc.pastey.net/72825 |
| 22:54.55 | cncfanatics | on a related note |
| 22:55.06 | cncfanatics | when the waterfall opens its empty instead of having general settings open |
| 22:55.07 | Nargiddley | 'treeType' in your register |
| 22:55.20 | cncfanatics | none -.- |
| 22:55.27 | Nargiddley | 'defaultPane' in your reg sets the default page |
| 22:57.36 | cncfanatics | what should I Set treeType to ? |
| 22:57.52 | Nargiddley | you dont have to set it to anything, its tree by default |
| 22:58.05 | cncfanatics | well, still buggy then :) |
| 22:58.12 | Nargiddley | well, working for me |
| 22:58.24 | cncfanatics | if u want to try, download fb and try the /script FlexBar2.Waterfall:Open("FlexBar2", "buttonctrl"); |
| 23:00.50 | Nargiddley | opened at button control |
| 23:00.55 | cncfanatics | eh, seriously ? |
| 23:00.57 | Nargiddley | yes |
| 23:00.59 | cncfanatics | wth then |
| 23:01.41 | cncfanatics | I really dont get it then |
| 23:01.46 | cncfanatics | ah well, lets be happy |
| 23:01.49 | cncfanatics | and call me a moron |
| 23:03.26 | Nargiddley | /print AceLibrary("Waterfall-1.0"):GetLibraryVersion() |
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| 23:08.29 | CIA-14 | 03somerset * r47579 10ChanList/ (5 files): |
| 23:08.29 | CIA-14 | ChanList |
| 23:08.29 | CIA-14 | - version 0.2 |
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| 23:22.14 | cncfanatics | noooo |
| 23:22.21 | cncfanatics | I got to reset settings of fb to fix a bug |
| 23:22.23 | cncfanatics | crap |
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| 23:37.56 | CIA-14 | 03phanx * r47580 10GridStatusHealingReduced/ (Core.lua Locale-deDE.lua Locale-koKR.lua ReadMe.txt): |
| 23:37.56 | CIA-14 | GridStatusHealingReduced |
| 23:37.56 | CIA-14 | - Added deDE and koKR translations for Hex of Weakness |
| 23:37.56 | CIA-14 | - Removed some incorrect debuffs |
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| 23:40.32 | aemuth | lolo is there a way to get the range of the target as number into the pitbull frames with tags from dogtag or so? |
| 23:41.00 | [dRaCo] | there's no way to tell the distance. |
| 23:41.05 | [dRaCo] | just "in range" or not |
| 23:42.43 | aemuth | ah bummer, wanted to see the range of my focus for resheeping since the inrange check action buttons is set for main target |
| 23:43.09 | kergoth | there's RangeCheck-1.0, which uses your abilities to estimate range |
| 23:43.19 | kergoth | pretty sure theres a dogtag for it |
| 23:43.29 | CIA-14 | 03cncfanatics * r47581 10FlexBar2/ (4 files in 4 dirs): (log message trimmed) |
| 23:43.29 | CIA-14 | FlexBar2: |
| 23:43.29 | CIA-14 | Core.lua: |
| 23:43.29 | CIA-14 | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:43.29 | CIA-14 | Highlighting.lua: |
| 23:43.30 | CIA-14 | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:43.33 | CIA-14 | Layout.lua: |
| 23:43.46 | [dRaCo] | pitbull's focus frame should show you if your focus is in range our not. |
| 23:43.46 | SaladFork | [Range] |
| 23:44.32 | aemuth | in range for what? got tons of spells with different range ;) |
| 23:45.01 | cncfanatics | w0000000t |
| 23:45.03 | NightHawkTheSane | huh, new release of scplugin.. http://scplugin.tigris.org/ |
| 23:45.03 | [dRaCo] | standard cast, afaik. 30y |
| 23:45.22 | aemuth | ah i see, well 30y is what i need |
| 23:46.28 | [dRaCo] | try using that [range] tag... if you've got RangeCeck-1.0, it might work ;) |
| 23:46.51 | SaladFork | woohoo |
| 23:46.51 | SaladFork | serversplit |
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| 23:48.03 | aemuth | yeh gonna try that draco |
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| 23:49.09 | sb | mnhh wtb more flexible autobar :( (and no, not pt3bar ;p) |
| 23:49.51 | ckknight | aemuth: [Range] is available with RangeCheck-1.0 |
| 23:50.13 | aemuth | installing it now |
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| 23:51.29 | cncfanatics | sb: flexbar2 will be able to do that when its done |
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| 23:53.59 | aemuth | ah yes it's working with rangecheck :) |
| 23:54.33 | cncfanatics | cya all |
| 23:54.40 | cncfanatics | going to bed |
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