| 00:00.10 | ckknight | basically |
| 00:00.14 | ckknight | either way, if anyone wants to see Joker in action with a real mod, there's a CowTip branch that supports Joker |
| 00:00.23 | ckknight | and it has all the neat features |
| 00:00.24 | SaladFork | Ckk - you still against screenshots? >.< |
| 00:00.29 | Silviu- | 3Downloaded: 3445.04 MB 3 Uploaded: 604.71 MB |
| 00:00.30 | ckknight | like ingame bug/feature requests |
| 00:00.35 | ckknight | and such |
| 00:00.39 | SaladFork | Errr |
| 00:00.40 | SaladFork | Explain? |
| 00:00.41 | Silviu- | 3 more gb and Bipshock is here |
| 00:00.42 | Silviu- | :D |
| 00:00.44 | SaladFork | [@ckknight] like ingame bug/feature requests |
| 00:00.55 | Silviu- | Bioshock* |
| 00:01.02 | ckknight | SaladFork, you click a button, it provides a link you can copy to a browser |
| 00:01.07 | ckknight | in a very easy fashion |
| 00:01.07 | SaladFork | Oh |
| 00:01.13 | ckknight | so it's all there for you |
| 00:01.16 | SaladFork | Meh, I doubt most users would be assed to do it |
| 00:01.17 | SaladFork | But alright |
| 00:01.22 | ckknight | no messing around with trying to figure out IRC or forums |
| 00:01.31 | ckknight | just a streamlined method |
| 00:01.37 | SaladFork | Ckk - One last question |
| 00:01.41 | ckknight | SaladFork, you'd expect that, but my ingame donation thing has paid off |
| 00:01.45 | ckknight | yea? |
| 00:01.46 | SaladFork | wow |
| 00:01.46 | SaladFork | nice |
| 00:01.54 | SaladFork | Should Kael (and others) make an Ace3 and such, would Joker still call WowAce.com home? |
| 00:02.00 | *** join/#wowace Thelyna (n=burp@222-153-104-78.jetstream.xtra.co.nz) |
| 00:02.03 | ckknight | I like the wowace infrastructure |
| 00:02.16 | SaladFork | That doesn't answer the question, ;) |
| 00:02.29 | ckknight | and seeing as wowace has a policy of supporting non-Ace frameworks, there shouldn't be an issue |
| 00:02.41 | SaladFork | good deal |
| 00:02.48 | SaladFork | I really am excited to see what you're going to do with JokerConfig |
| 00:02.49 | SaladFork | hehehe |
| 00:02.57 | ckknight | it's not worth it in my mind, from both a personal and a community viewpoint, to make my own website supporting Joker and related mods |
| 00:03.12 | ckknight | SaladFork, I put a lot of work into it :-) |
| 00:03.17 | SaladFork | Is it shiny? |
| 00:03.20 | ckknight | quite. |
| 00:03.23 | SaladFork | Does it have animations? |
| 00:03.27 | ckknight | the color picker is pretty shiny |
| 00:03.27 | Silowyi | what degree of feature overlap do Joker and Ace2 have atm? |
| 00:03.33 | Silowyi | Can Joker do everything Ace2 can? |
| 00:03.33 | ckknight | Silowyi, overlap how? |
| 00:03.35 | *** part/#wowace kergoth (n=kergoth@neutrino.joshua-colp.com) |
| 00:03.38 | ckknight | Silowyi, not AceOO |
| 00:03.39 | SaladFork | Silowli - It's not backwards compatible |
| 00:03.47 | ckknight | outside of that, yes, it's got everything people would need |
| 00:03.53 | Silowyi | k |
| 00:03.53 | SaladFork | Ckk - Does it have animations? |
| 00:04.04 | ckknight | sorry, you'll have to implement that manually |
| 00:04.07 | SaladFork | Noooo |
| 00:04.10 | break19 | all I care about, is a juggling clown on a unicycle.. |
| 00:04.12 | ckknight | bloat |
| 00:04.12 | SaladFork | The sliding effect in CT was so cool |
| 00:04.17 | ckknight | lol |
| 00:04.21 | SaladFork | Oh well, as long as its shiny |
| 00:04.23 | RaydenUni | unicycles? |
| 00:04.24 | ckknight | SaladFork, the color picker is pretty neat |
| 00:04.26 | SaladFork | Ckk - presentation means a lot |
| 00:04.30 | Silviu- | Animations must be made by addons not the framework i guess |
| 00:04.35 | ckknight | if you drag one slider, the others change |
| 00:04.37 | RaydenUni | unicycle is one of my irc flag words :D |
| 00:04.39 | SaladFork | Color picker? did you add the functionality from EnchancedColorPicker? |
| 00:04.39 | ckknight | change their color etc |
| 00:04.44 | ckknight | yea |
| 00:04.48 | *** join/#wowace MadMonk (n=Nuno@81.193.38.240) |
| 00:04.52 | ckknight | you choose R/G/B or H/S/L |
| 00:04.53 | SaladFork | So you can copy+paste and enter manual values? |
| 00:04.55 | ckknight | yes |
| 00:05.02 | Nargiddley | SaladFork, it looks like waterfall with better consistent controls |
| 00:05.05 | ckknight | well, not copy-paste ...yet |
| 00:05.11 | SaladFork | Meh, waterfall isn't too shiny |
| 00:05.14 | SaladFork | It works fantastically and is awesome |
| 00:05.17 | SaladFork | But not that shiny |
| 00:05.25 | ckknight | I really took a lot of inspiration from Waterfall, so I do have Nargiddley to thank for that |
| 00:05.38 | Industrial | SaladFork: #ckknight |
| 00:05.39 | Industrial | :| |
| 00:05.44 | SaladFork | He has a channel now? |
| 00:05.46 | ckknight | no |
| 00:05.53 | ckknight | and I find self-attributing projects childish |
| 00:06.04 | Industrial | HOW ABOUT YOUR DONATION BUTTON |
| 00:06.08 | Industrial | ass |
| 00:06.19 | SaladFork | o_O |
| 00:06.23 | *** part/#wowace Industrial (n=Industri@194.145.194.227) |
| 00:06.30 | Silviu- | lol |
| 00:06.30 | SaladFork | That's one way to make an exit |
| 00:06.31 | sylvanaar | he always leaves |
| 00:06.32 | ckknight | what if I drop off? I don't want CkkBar and CkkMap to just float into the wind |
| 00:06.43 | ckknight | yea, and I don't see the issue with donations. |
| 00:06.46 | ckknight | I do this for free |
| 00:06.49 | chuckg | Needs ckkdonations. |
| 00:06.51 | ckknight | if users want to thank me, they can |
| 00:06.54 | ckknight | they don't have to |
| 00:06.57 | SaladFork | Ckk - You've got to talk to Blizz |
| 00:06.58 | chuckg | A mod soully committed to donations. |
| 00:06.58 | ckknight | I'm not forcing them to |
| 00:07.04 | ckknight | SaladFork, srsly |
| 00:07.05 | SaladFork | To add a DonateToCkk() function that would instantly charge their credit card to you |
| 00:07.11 | ckknight | lol |
| 00:07.43 | SaladFork | Hehe |
| 00:07.47 | SaladFork | DonateLib-1.09 |
| 00:07.49 | SaladFork | err |
| 00:07.49 | SaladFork | DonateLib-1.0 |
| 00:07.58 | SaladFork | while (1) do se;fDonateToCkk(); end |
| 00:07.58 | sylvanaar | nothing wrong with making money off the code your write |
| 00:08.03 | Silviu- | ;) |
| 00:08.23 | Silviu- | sylvanaar did u made any with Prat ? |
| 00:08.29 | Silviu- | It`s a popular addon afterall |
| 00:08.35 | sylvanaar | no |
| 00:08.37 | ckknight | sad |
| 00:08.45 | ckknight | do you have an X-Donate thing set up? |
| 00:08.46 | SaladFork | Ckk - What is this "Unit test"? |
| 00:08.52 | sylvanaar | no |
| 00:09.11 | ckknight | SaladFork, unit testing is a computer science concept to test specific parts of applications to make sure they work correctly |
| 00:09.20 | SaladFork | Oh, I thought that |
| 00:09.21 | ckknight | SaladFork, if I make a change that breaks something and I don't realize it, the unit tests should catch it |
| 00:09.23 | SaladFork | But figured it made too much sense ot be it |
| 00:09.40 | sylvanaar | it is the partner of "system test" |
| 00:09.40 | ckknight | basically, it makes it so addons/libraries/etc. are a lot more reliable |
| 00:09.54 | SaladFork | So basically each part of your code doesn't trust other parts and validates all information it's given from other parts? |
| 00:09.56 | ckknight | yes, system tests test the whole thing, not a specific part |
| 00:09.59 | SaladFork | SO if one part breaks, the others catch it? |
| 00:10.08 | ckknight | SaladFork, actually that's handled by contracts |
| 00:10.15 | ckknight | design-by-contract is also a fun thing |
| 00:10.21 | SaladFork | I'm going to stop asking questions before my brain cells hurt |
| 00:10.24 | Silviu- | hmm i should go to sleep :/ 3 am here :) |
| 00:10.37 | ckknight | SaladFork, and nice thing is that contracts turn off for users, so they don't get slowed down by them |
| 00:10.48 | ckknight | only developers and testers would turn those on |
| 00:10.49 | SaladFork | Haha |
| 00:11.01 | SaladFork | Going to flood your program with if (CONSTANT_DEBUG == 1)? |
| 00:11.10 | ckknight | nope, it's all handled for you. |
| 00:11.13 | SaladFork | Ooooh |
| 00:11.20 | ckknight | you turn it on/off with LibJokerConfig-1.0 |
| 00:11.25 | SaladFork | Interesting |
| 00:11.27 | SaladFork | I must see this shiny config |
| 00:11.35 | SaladFork | Though, of course, you're against screenshots |
| 00:11.37 | SaladFork | So bleh on you |
| 00:11.39 | ckknight | install the CowTip branch |
| 00:11.53 | SaladFork | Meh, I'm a "see it before I get it" person |
| 00:11.55 | Silviu- | with externals ;D |
| 00:12.05 | SaladFork | The only reason i got recount was because of its awesome screenshots on its wiki page |
| 00:12.12 | SaladFork | I got Aloft because of the screenshots in its forum thread |
| 00:12.27 | Silviu- | Yeah i`m same to Salad ;) |
| 00:12.34 | Silviu- | I saw OnScreenHealth and got it ;) |
| 00:12.39 | SaladFork | Silv - ESL? |
| 00:12.40 | Silviu- | Looks nice ;) |
| 00:12.46 | ckknight | I actually made a movie for LibJokerConfig-1.0 |
| 00:12.52 | SaladFork | Ckk - Link it now. |
| 00:12.56 | Silviu- | ESL ? what`s that |
| 00:13.01 | ckknight | it's an old one, so you know |
| 00:13.01 | SaladFork | English as a Second Language |
| 00:13.04 | Silviu- | Yeah link link :D |
| 00:13.05 | ckknight | so it's not as shiny |
| 00:13.09 | SaladFork | Hmm |
| 00:13.11 | ckknight | http://youtube.com/southernjesse |
| 00:13.13 | Silviu- | SaladFork yes ;p |
| 00:13.14 | ckknight | but you'll get the idea |
| 00:13.18 | SaladFork | Good, if it sucks then I can always tell myself "the final version will eb better" |
| 00:13.26 | Silviu- | SaladFork it`s so obvious ? :/ |
| 00:13.31 | SaladFork | Lol, do you have anything other than the color pciker made? |
| 00:13.38 | ckknight | ah, no |
| 00:13.42 | ckknight | and actually it was when I was using HSV, I changed to HSL |
| 00:13.44 | SaladFork | Woah, the color picker is built into Config-1.0? |
| 00:13.44 | sylvanaar | the whole test driven development thing never really played in industry - maintaining the unit tests actually became a time sink |
| 00:13.49 | SaladFork | Instead of opening a color wheel? |
| 00:13.56 | ckknight | SaladFork, lol, yea |
| 00:14.00 | SaladFork | Hmm, not sure if I like that |
| 00:14.08 | ckknight | it's actually very nice in practice |
| 00:14.09 | SaladFork | Would be bloated at times |
| 00:14.12 | SaladFork | Really? |
| 00:14.14 | ckknight | yea |
| 00:14.18 | SaladFork | I kind of like just having RGB sliders |
| 00:14.26 | Nargiddley | SaladFork, its the sexiest color picker i've seen :P |
| 00:14.33 | SaladFork | /shrug |
| 00:14.40 | ckknight | you get 7 sliders! |
| 00:14.43 | SaladFork | I kind of liked the color wheel |
| 00:14.44 | ckknight | and 7 edit boxes! |
| 00:14.50 | ckknight | color wheel is lame |
| 00:14.58 | SaladFork | Ckk - and you're telling me that 14 objects per color option isn't bloated? >.< |
| 00:15.01 | ckknight | also made showing the alpha complicated |
| 00:15.17 | sylvanaar | why is it even circular - i cant remember anymore |
| 00:15.18 | ckknight | SaladFork, it's all in a pretty small space and horizontally laid out, so it doesn't take up that much |
| 00:15.26 | ckknight | sylvanaar, color works in a cone-shape |
| 00:15.30 | SaladFork | Guess I'll have to see it and play around with it for a bit |
| 00:15.31 | SaladFork | /shrug |
| 00:15.36 | Silviu- | ckknight your hat is ... strange ;) |
| 00:15.40 | ckknight | sylvanaar, where S = 0 is the tip of the cone |
| 00:15.44 | ckknight | Silviu-, that's my satire series |
| 00:15.58 | ckknight | sylvanaar, wait, no V = 0 is the tip of the cone |
| 00:16.04 | ckknight | V = 1 is the base, which is circular |
| 00:16.13 | sylvanaar | right, why not a cube? |
| 00:16.29 | SaladFork | Ckk - How are you going to differentiate between LibName-1.1 and LibName-1.2 (or LibName-4.0 |
| 00:16.30 | ckknight | because Hue is cyclical |
| 00:16.39 | break19 | meh, I want a color tetrahedon. |
| 00:16.42 | ckknight | SaladFork, how do you mean? |
| 00:16.47 | sylvanaar | ah ok |
| 00:16.51 | SaladFork | "It also alleviates the issue of ParserLib vs. Parser-3.0, as the difference between LibParser-1.1 vs. LibParser-3.0 would be much, much clearer." |
| 00:16.56 | SaladFork | How does it make it much, much clearer? |
| 00:17.08 | SaladFork | break - screw that, I want a ColorFork |
| 00:17.13 | ckknight | because ParserLib doesn't state its version simply |
| 00:17.19 | ckknight | when it's actually version 1.1 |
| 00:17.25 | break19 | meh, tetracolors are much cooler |
| 00:17.51 | Silviu- | Hmm good night ;) |
| 00:17.54 | SaladFork | Ah, I misunderstood it, nvm |
| 00:17.57 | SaladFork | cya Silv |
| 00:18.12 | SaladFork | Though honestly |
| 00:18.23 | SaladFork | I would love it if making informative and detail-full Wiki pages became a standard for addons |
| 00:18.32 | sylvanaar | go make em |
| 00:18.32 | ckknight | *sigh* |
| 00:18.45 | SaladFork | Sylv - I meant addon authors make it for their addon |
| 00:18.47 | sylvanaar | sieze the day |
| 00:18.48 | ckknight | at least we're getting standardized project management |
| 00:18.49 | SaladFork | it all falls under presentation |
| 00:19.03 | ckknight | including bug/feature trackers |
| 00:19.04 | SaladFork | And we really do need to cut down on these duplicate wiki pages |
| 00:19.16 | SaladFork | "SVN For Beginners", and "SVN For Idiots" |
| 00:19.20 | SaladFork | I went for the first |
| 00:19.30 | sylvanaar | one is GUI |
| 00:19.38 | break19 | ui gui good. |
| 00:19.45 | sylvanaar | idiots im sure |
| 00:19.48 | SaladFork | The first one is using svnTortoise |
| 00:19.51 | SaladFork | The secondi s for command line |
| 00:20.00 | SaladFork | But "For Beginners" and "For Idiots" doesn't really convey that |
| 00:20.02 | TNSe | wheres SVN for n00bs? |
| 00:20.07 | SaladFork | Also, wouldn't idiots have an easier time with a GUI? |
| 00:20.18 | ckknight | SVN for Nubcakes |
| 00:20.25 | TNSe | svn for wannabe's? |
| 00:20.34 | SaladFork | And I'm still up for Addon of the Day. Even if it created a tiny bit of drama, it would let new/underexposed addons shine |
| 00:20.42 | SaladFork | And it would encourage people to return daily |
| 00:20.47 | TNSe | kek |
| 00:20.49 | TNSe | so like |
| 00:20.56 | TNSe | so everyone has 400 addons to installed |
| 00:20.57 | SaladFork | A bunch of addons I have that I _LOVE_ I wouldn't have gotten them if they weren't featured on an addon website |
| 00:20.58 | sylvanaar | why not addon of the minute |
| 00:21.08 | TNSe | and viewing the game through a 50x50 pixel opening in the middle? |
| 00:21.10 | SaladFork | Sylv - it could even be random based on pageload |
| 00:21.28 | sylvanaar | that would give it value |
| 00:21.31 | SaladFork | Just a little box of "Check out this addon! [screenie] [name] [short description] [link to wiki page]" would be aswesome |
| 00:21.47 | SaladFork | TNSe - I'm sitting at ~300 addons now and I've got less screen clutter than most, ;) |
| 00:21.59 | ckknight | Get on up it's time to dance yeah. |
| 00:21.59 | ckknight | It's so much fun being up on our feet. |
| 00:21.59 | TNSe | I'm just horrid at managing my screen estate |
| 00:22.09 | TNSe | horrid horrid horrid |
| 00:22.16 | SaladFork | And Jira is good and all, but people don't want to have to log in or whatever to report issues |
| 00:22.16 | TNSe | and I refuse to let go of the original blizz interface |
| 00:22.23 | TNSe | because I'd have to relearn where all the buttons are |
| 00:22.27 | SaladFork | if they have a problem, they just want to tell the author and let the mfix it |
| 00:22.35 | SaladFork | Logging in, finding a thread, filling out a form, marking a severity |
| 00:22.39 | SaladFork | Would turn most issue reporters away |
| 00:22.43 | sylvanaar | good |
| 00:23.07 | ckknight | So we go Up up -- do the jump. Move around and clap your hands together. Down down -- turn around. Having fun is what it's all about. |
| 00:23.38 | SaladFork | Sylv - if everytime you viewed the WowAce main page a little section was devoted to showing off an addon |
| 00:23.40 | sylvanaar | they probably report issues "xxx is bugged...anyone know of xxx alternatives" |
| 00:23.57 | SaladFork | Wheter it be changed daily, or randomly chosen on refresh, it would expose you to an addon you might otherwise never know or hear of |
| 00:24.01 | SaladFork | wether* |
| 00:24.02 | sylvanaar | yes |
| 00:24.03 | SaladFork | whether** |
| 00:24.43 | SaladFork | WowUI does it, WowI does it, Curse does it |
| 00:25.02 | sylvanaar | but that requires a description and screenshot, and editorial decisions |
| 00:25.45 | SaladFork | Sylv - Authors who want to have their addon possibly featured could add something to the wiki page (short description or w/e) with a special tag that a spotlight script could pick out |
| 00:25.47 | ckknight | I expected a bigger rouse out of people |
| 00:26.17 | SaladFork | Woah |
| 00:26.22 | SaladFork | I just loaded WowUI |
| 00:26.29 | SaladFork | And their featured addon keeps track of Zeppelin/Boat locations |
| 00:26.35 | SaladFork | And arrival/departure countdowns |
| 00:26.37 | SaladFork | That seems really useful |
| 00:26.45 | SaladFork | If it wasn't for the featured addon section, I'd never have known about this |
| 00:27.22 | Kreiger | Any of you guys know anything about Assessment? |
| 00:27.24 | sylvanaar | yeah, its not a bad idea, but like wiki pages, it requires different skills than those of the developer |
| 00:27.32 | ckknight | ~asktoask |
| 00:27.32 | purl | This is IRC. Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question and if someone's around, they'll be glad to help. |
| 00:27.38 | ckknight | Kreiger, ^-- |
| 00:27.41 | SaladFork | Actually, I'm considering using this.. |
| 00:27.43 | Kreiger | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:27.48 | SaladFork | Ckk - what do you mean by [@ckknight] I expected a bigger rouse out of people |
| 00:27.50 | Kreiger | Ok. i get this bug: |
| 00:27.51 | Kreiger | terface\AddOns\Assessment\CoreModules\CombatTime.lua line 4: |
| 00:27.51 | Kreiger | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:27.59 | ckknight | SaladFork, see what I said before that |
| 00:27.59 | SaladFork | Kregier - go get Roster-2.1 |
| 00:28.05 | SaladFork | Oh, about dancing? |
| 00:28.08 | ckknight | yea |
| 00:28.08 | Kreiger | I looked on wowaceupdater for roster. i didn't see it |
| 00:28.13 | SaladFork | I just registered that do programmer's insanity and ignored it |
| 00:28.23 | SaladFork | Kreiger - http://files.wowace.com/ |
| 00:28.33 | SaladFork | more specifically |
| 00:28.42 | SaladFork | http://files.wowace.com/RosterLib/RosterLib.zip |
| 00:28.44 | Kreiger | I find myself annoyed that i need to go to the wowace page when i have wowaceupdater. haha |
| 00:29.02 | SaladFork | Woah, this zep/boat tracker is actually pretty good |
| 00:29.04 | SaladFork | Thank you featured addons! |
| 00:29.08 | Kreiger | I updated updater. it works now. |
| 00:29.10 | SaladFork | Kreiger - you can get it from WAU |
| 00:29.15 | SaladFork | Scroll down to Uninstalled Addons |
| 00:29.16 | sylvanaar | type roster into the search field |
| 00:29.16 | SaladFork | Go to RosterLib |
| 00:29.22 | SaladFork | Right click Roster, and chose "Install" |
| 00:29.29 | Kreiger | yeah, salad.i had to update WAU for it to show up. |
| 00:29.33 | SaladFork | o_O |
| 00:29.42 | sylvanaar | from 1.8? |
| 00:29.46 | Kreiger | I dunno,i looked last night for "roster" and it wasn't there |
| 00:30.02 | Kreiger | I suppose so. i'm using 1.9 now and it updated when i loaded it up. |
| 00:31.34 | sylvanaar | just type part of the name in the search box if you need to thin the list |
| 00:32.26 | SaladFork | Lol |
| 00:32.27 | SaladFork | http://www.wowace.com/wiki/Talk:Ideas_for_New_Mods#Auto_SEND_gold |
| 00:32.34 | SaladFork | I should make that and install it on my bro's account |
| 00:32.37 | SaladFork | Threshold: 1g |
| 00:33.25 | Diao | wowui? |
| 00:33.39 | SaladFork | http://wowui.incgamers.com/ |
| 00:33.46 | SaladFork | Previously known as http://ui.worldofwar.net/ |
| 00:36.52 | Diao | oh |
| 00:36.58 | Kreiger | Sup diao. |
| 00:37.27 | Kreiger | Any of you guys know if there's a chat addon that changes which chat frames are viewable depending on combat? |
| 00:37.51 | *** part/#wowace Neandre (n=sacha_tr@ANantes-156-1-84-45.w90-12.abo.wanadoo.fr) |
| 00:38.29 | Amadeo | Warhammer Online looks like it has really nice animation |
| 00:39.38 | |Stan| | ckknight: mm will there be a copy and paste feature for the colorpicker in Joker? |
| 00:39.42 | Diao | hey |
| 00:39.47 | ckknight | yes, |Stan| |
| 00:39.51 | ckknight | there will be something like that |
| 00:39.57 | |Stan| | awesome |
| 00:40.30 | ckknight | I have a headache |
| 00:40.31 | ckknight | it's lame. |
| 00:40.53 | break19 | well.. thats better than.. I'm lame.. its a headache :/ |
| 00:41.57 | ckknight | you're lame? |
| 00:42.14 | break19 | you accusin? I just said it was better than that :p |
| 00:42.19 | Gngsk | anyone know if it's possible to proc potion master while making major protection potions? |
| 00:42.31 | SaladFork | Ckk - You said you've gotten some donations. Any idea which addon's gotten you the most? |
| 00:42.47 | SaladFork | Gng - you can proc it whenver you make any BC potion I believe |
| 00:42.57 | Gngsk | well |
| 00:43.07 | Gngsk | will it proc 1 extra potion or an extra 5 stack? |
| 00:43.13 | Gngsk | cuz the major pots are 5 per combine I thought |
| 00:43.29 | Gngsk | http://www.wowhead.com/?item=22841 |
| 00:44.16 | Thrae | !i 22841 |
| 00:44.18 | ThraeBot | Thrae: Name: Major Fire Protection Potion; Rarity: White; 5 Stack; Consumable; Requires L60; Use: Absorbs 2800 to 4000 fire damage. Lasts 2 min.. [[ http://www.wowarmory.com/item-info.xml?i=22841 ]] |
| 00:44.27 | ckknight | break19, I'm confused |
| 00:44.32 | ckknight | SaladFork, Cartographer, by far |
| 00:45.18 | SaladFork | Gngsk - THey certainly don't fall into the category of Flasks/Elixirs |
| 00:45.30 | SaladFork | Though the fact it creates more than 1 may make it not |
| 00:45.34 | Gngsk | uh, did I say anything about elixir mastery? |
| 00:45.47 | SaladFork | I know, I'm following the process of elimination, =P |
| 00:45.47 | Gngsk | or can potion mastery only proc 1 extra? |
| 00:45.53 | SaladFork | Being specialized gives you a chance to create an extra 1 to 4 (for a total 5) items while crafting in the field you have selected |
| 00:46.14 | Gngsk | I'm not an alchemist so I dunno specifics I'm just farming tons of mats for those pots and I'm wondering if it matters having a potion master make 'em or not |
| 00:46.26 | buu | Yes. |
| 00:46.28 | SaladFork | No, most of the masters I've talked to keep all procs anyway |
| 00:46.37 | buu | Well.. |
| 00:46.39 | Gngsk | this is for a guild so, yeah |
| 00:46.41 | buu | Aside from that obvious problem. |
| 00:46.46 | SaladFork | I actually have a friend who makes a living off Primal Might transmutes |
| 00:46.54 | buu | Isn't it a 16% chance? |
| 00:47.02 | SaladFork | buu - He takes advantage of it EVERY day |
| 00:47.05 | SaladFork | And then trades the mights for the mats |
| 00:47.08 | buu | SaladFork: That shocks me. |
| 00:47.09 | SaladFork | So he breaks even in that respect |
| 00:47.13 | SaladFork | But occassionally gets a free one |
| 00:47.16 | SaladFork | Which he sells |
| 00:47.32 | Xinhuan | do all the local functions count towards the 200 locals limit? |
| 00:47.33 | SaladFork | a ~15% chance to get 90g+ every day isn't bad |
| 00:47.41 | Xinhuan | i seem to have hit the 200 locals limit T_T |
| 00:47.47 | SaladFork | Xin - with what mod? |
| 00:48.02 | Xinhuan | a mod i'm developing |
| 00:48.28 | SaladFork | Gngsk - I looked it up for you |
| 00:48.44 | SaladFork | For the sake of Master of Potions, a consumable is considered a potion if it shares the 2 minute potion timer. |
| 00:49.48 | Gngsk | k |
| 00:50.19 | SaladFork | For example, take a look at Magebloog Potion |
| 00:50.31 | SaladFork | It has the word "Potion" in its name, but shares the cooldown of elixirs (5 seconds) |
| 00:50.37 | SaladFork | So it will not proc Potion mastery |
| 00:50.48 | Gngsk | yeah, I get all that |
| 00:50.54 | SaladFork | Apparently the only exception is Troll's Blood Potions |
| 00:50.57 | Gngsk | I'm confused by the whole 5 pots per combine thing |
| 00:51.24 | buu | You press button. You get 5 pots. |
| 00:51.53 | Gngsk | yeah but will potion mastery proc and give you 10 or 15 pots or just like 12-13? |
| 00:52.07 | Gngsk | er, 6-7 |
| 00:52.21 | Xinhuan | when it procs, you get extra potions beyond what you normally expect |
| 00:52.26 | Xinhuan | simple? |
| 00:52.40 | SaladFork | Gngsk - 1-4 extra |
| 00:52.54 | Gngsk | ok, thx |
| 00:53.27 | break19 | Gngsk: its like this.. you make a potion, you *might* get an extra 1-5.. you make 5, you *might* get up to 5 for each.. so you *could* get 25 pots out of mats for 5, but its HIGHLY unlikely. |
| 00:53.55 | Gngsk | heh, that's what I was hoping |
| 00:54.18 | SaladFork | Break - you only get 1-4 extra |
| 00:54.19 | SaladFork | for a total of 5 |
| 00:54.38 | break19 | SaladFork: ok. but still, my statement is correct, even if the numbers arent. the formula is right :p |
| 00:54.42 | SaladFork | =P |
| 00:54.48 | SaladFork | Just saying for the point of fact |
| 00:55.23 | break19 | <- elixir mastery. I usually get a proc about every 4-5 times, where I'll get 1 or 2, occassionally 3. |
| 00:56.18 | break19 | so I *try* to make 5 at a time, sometimes I get a total of 6 or 7.. |
| 00:57.43 | charon | "The service 'Microsoft .NET Framework v1.1.4322 Update' is preventing the machine from entering hibernation." |
| 00:57.49 | SaladFork | What happens if you get a proc and don't have the invo space for it? |
| 00:57.56 | charon | gz microsoft for making a system that is _completely_ unusable on a laptop. |
| 00:59.54 | sag_ich_nicht | charon |
| 00:59.57 | sag_ich_nicht | open taskmanager |
| 00:59.59 | sag_ich_nicht | find the process |
| 01:00.02 | sag_ich_nicht | terminate it |
| 01:00.09 | sag_ich_nicht | have the same problem on a machine here on my lan |
| 01:00.17 | sag_ich_nicht | just kill the process and it will hibernate fine |
| 01:00.20 | sag_ich_nicht | the name is pretty obvious |
| 01:00.52 | charon | well some googling dug up someone saying it was actually related to avira antivirus (which i use) |
| 01:01.17 | charon | i was really just pretending to be an Average User, meantime i killed it via the services interface |
| 01:01.31 | Xinhuan | [9/2 08:56:26] <SaladFork> What happens if you get a proc and don't have the invo space for it? |
| 01:01.39 | Xinhuan | then the whole thing fails |
| 01:01.46 | Xinhuan | and your mats are not used |
| 01:01.50 | Xinhuan | i think |
| 01:02.07 | SaladFork | Ah, so you won't even get a chance to proc? |
| 01:02.33 | charon | if only there were decent ATI drivers for linux :( then i could finally nuke xp |
| 01:02.52 | Xinhuan | if the product you are making doesn't have enough inventory room to be created, you simply fail |
| 01:02.55 | charon | ah well, good night, i hope it'll finally hibernate |
| 01:07.55 | Recluse | how do you pass numerical values to validate = { value = "caption" } if it won't accept an integer as the value? XD |
| 01:08.21 | Recluse | maybe i'm backwards o.O |
| 01:08.59 | Xinhuan | isn't there some range thing that sets the range of allowed integers? |
| 01:09.09 | ckknight | Recluse, you can't with Ace2 |
| 01:09.20 | ckknight | Recluse, you might be happy to know that I fixed that in Joker :-P |
| 01:09.29 | Recluse | trouble is i need the user to pick 1, 2, 3, or 10 rather than a range |
| 01:09.36 | Recluse | ckk: lol awesome |
| 01:09.48 | ckknight | will validate = { 1, 2, 3, 10 } work? |
| 01:09.55 | ckknight | or do they need to be named? |
| 01:09.55 | Xinhuan | then use the strings "1", "2", ... "10" |
| 01:10.03 | Xinhuan | since the args are parsed as strings anyway? |
| 01:10.26 | Recluse | hrm let me play around again |
| 01:10.42 | Xinhuan | i mean they are still strings until specifically converted into a number |
| 01:13.11 | SaladFork | Xinhuan - You'd use type="range" |
| 01:13.14 | SaladFork | and set min and max |
| 01:13.18 | SaladFork | and probably (big)Step |
| 01:13.26 | Xinhuan | but that's not what recluse wanted |
| 01:13.37 | Xinhuan | <Recluse> trouble is i need the user to pick 1, 2, 3, or 10 rather than a range |
| 01:13.49 | SaladFork | And what's the problem with it? |
| 01:13.52 | SaladFork | in get = |
| 01:13.54 | SaladFork | Just use tonumber() |
| 01:14.05 | SaladFork | get = function(newVal) whateverVar = tonumber(newval); |
| 01:14.28 | SaladFork | validate = function (a) return tonumber(a) == a end |
| 01:15.17 | starlon | ~laziness |
| 01:15.18 | purl | LAZINESS: The quality that makes you go to great effort to reduce overall energy expenditure. It makes you write labor-saving programs that other people will find useful, and document what you wrote so you don't have to answer so many questions about it. Hence, the first great virtue of a programmer. |
| 01:16.07 | Nargiddley | SaladFork, 1,2,3 or 10 is not a range its 4 acceptable values |
| 01:16.39 | ckknight | validate = { "1", "2", "3", "10" }, set = function(val) myValue = tonumber(val) end, get = function() return tostring(myValue) end |
| 01:16.41 | ckknight | done |
| 01:16.42 | SaladFork | Yeah |
| 01:16.44 | SaladFork | i was about to say that |
| 01:17.36 | Xinhuan | ~sleep |
| 01:17.37 | purl | it has been said that sleep is overrated, and a poor substitute for caffeine. |
| 01:17.40 | Recluse | that one worked: validate = { "1", "2",...}, but can i then do validate = { "1" = "Caption Text", ... } or will that bug it? |
| 01:18.02 | break19 | it should also be "sleep? meh, I'll get enough of when I die" |
| 01:18.19 | Xinhuan | ~coffee |
| 01:18.23 | Xinhuan | :( |
| 01:18.24 | SaladFork | Recluse = ["Caption Text"] = 1 |
| 01:19.13 | SaladFork | err, other way around sorry |
| 01:19.19 | SaladFork | ["1"] = "Caption Text" |
| 01:19.27 | SaladFork | http://www.wowace.com/wiki/AceOptions_data_table#Example_5 |
| 01:19.43 | Recluse | ah ha! the brackets ^.^ |
| 01:19.58 | ckknight | Recluse, :-) |
| 01:21.19 | Recluse | D= ty for that link. i've been searching the wiki all day to try and find syntax for those tables XD |
| 01:21.39 | ckknight | pastamancer, ping |
| 01:21.44 | Recluse | figured most of it out with trial and error already tho lol |
| 01:22.05 | SaladFork | lol Recluse |
| 01:22.12 | SaladFork | That's linked to in WelcomeHome |
| 01:22.13 | SaladFork | =P |
| 01:25.51 | ckknight | I'm contemplating renaming Joker |
| 01:25.54 | SaladFork | Why? |
| 01:25.56 | ckknight | because the name is kinda funky |
| 01:26.04 | SaladFork | Nah, it's like a joker card |
| 01:26.08 | SaladFork | it can be made into anything |
| 01:26.08 | SaladFork | =D |
| 01:26.10 | ckknight | yea, it's meant to be |
| 01:26.11 | Funkeh` | name abuse |
| 01:26.22 | ckknight | but, I mean, it could be _better_ |
| 01:26.31 | ckknight | and since nobody uses it yet, except me, I can rename it to whatever I want |
| 01:26.32 | Chompers | like Sausage |
| 01:26.37 | ckknight | lol, want to keep it small |
| 01:26.42 | Chompers | i alt tabed out of my game to type that :D |
| 01:26.43 | SaladFork | CkLib |
| 01:26.50 | Chompers | shit it crashed |
| 01:26.56 | ckknight | no, SaladFork |
| 01:27.00 | SaladFork | SFLib |
| 01:27.12 | SaladFork | Or would it be LibSF? |
| 01:27.14 | SaladFork | =P |
| 01:27.28 | ckknight | current ideas: "Sugar", "Spice". "Zoo" |
| 01:27.35 | |Stan| | Herbs! |
| 01:27.39 | Xinhuan | Sausage ftw |
| 01:27.39 | SaladFork | Wow, those seem to suck, XD |
| 01:27.45 | SaladFork | Sausage was better than that |
| 01:27.47 | ckknight | Add a little Spice to your addons ;-) |
| 01:27.59 | Chompers | call it 'Beef' |
| 01:28.03 | ckknight | lol, Beef |
| 01:28.05 | Chompers | that sounds funny |
| 01:28.16 | ckknight | yea, but a bit weird |
| 01:28.17 | |Stan| | meh I like "Herbs" |
| 01:28.21 | Chompers | a more refined/processed animal |
| 01:28.24 | |Stan| | HerbsLib |
| 01:28.32 | ckknight | |Stan|, that seems like a lib for herbalists |
| 01:28.37 | ckknight | don't want to do that |
| 01:28.39 | |Stan| | mmm |
| 01:28.40 | |Stan| | true |
| 01:29.01 | |Stan| | DonkeyLib |
| 01:29.03 | SaladFork | WtfLib |
| 01:29.15 | |Stan| | FTWLib |
| 01:29.16 | Chompers | Wild |
| 01:29.23 | ckknight | hrm, Wild |
| 01:29.26 | ckknight | not bad |
| 01:29.31 | Chompers | wild animal or wild card |
| 01:30.12 | ckknight | part of me would like to be able to use an icon from inside WoW as well |
| 01:30.19 | ckknight | so that I can brand things. |
| 01:30.23 | Chompers | King |
| 01:30.27 | Chompers | with a King stamp |
| 01:30.33 | ckknight | ooh |
| 01:30.33 | ckknight | not bad. |
| 01:30.36 | ckknight | not bad at all. |
| 01:30.49 | SaladFork | Fuck King |
| 01:30.51 | SaladFork | go with Knight |
| 01:30.56 | ckknight | no, not doing that |
| 01:31.09 | ckknight | I don't like self-attribution in project names |
| 01:31.11 | SaladFork | PoonLib |
| 01:31.17 | ckknight | despite the sheer awesomeness of Knight |
| 01:31.24 | SaladFork | Knight does't have to refer to you |
| 01:31.25 | Chompers | Night then |
| 01:31.34 | SaladFork | It's just an ownage name with a powerful meaning |
| 01:31.41 | SaladFork | And easy to brand (chess piece anyone?) |
| 01:31.55 | Chompers | with the little glowing red thing from the knight rider car |
| 01:31.55 | ckknight | I actually have the Knight chess piece on my business card |
| 01:32.05 | |Stan| | SpadesLib .. got the connection with the cards |
| 01:32.07 | SaladFork | 'sok, I have a fork in mine |
| 01:32.15 | ckknight | I don't _need_ the connection with cards |
| 01:32.20 | |Stan| | k |
| 01:32.27 | SaladFork | Call it Deck |
| 01:32.31 | SaladFork | and name each lib after a different card |
| 01:32.33 | SaladFork | =P |
| 01:32.36 | ckknight | lol, no |
| 01:32.40 | ckknight | that'd be super-complicated |
| 01:32.45 | Chompers | LibHENTAI - logo could be a tentacle |
| 01:32.52 | ckknight | what's LibDeckQueen - oh, that's events |
| 01:32.55 | SaladFork | Or just go with Zoo, and have LibTiger, LibGiraffe... |
| 01:32.57 | ckknight | wtf, mate? |
| 01:33.00 | break19 | deck the queen? |
| 01:33.03 | |Stan| | lol |
| 01:33.05 | SaladFork | And then have LibZooKeeper |
| 01:33.05 | SaladFork | =D |
| 01:33.08 | |Stan| | BoobsLib |
| 01:33.10 | Zicon | I like giraffes. |
| 01:33.31 | SaladFork | Breasticles |
| 01:33.37 | ckknight | chesticles |
| 01:33.40 | Xinhuan | call it Ace3 :) |
| 01:33.49 | SaladFork | Psh, go climb mount evbreast |
| 01:33.57 | |Stan| | oooh |
| 01:33.58 | Recluse | lol |
| 01:33.59 | |Stan| | ckknight: Eve |
| 01:34.00 | theoddone33 | you know what dr. damage needs? |
| 01:34.01 | |Stan| | call it Eve |
| 01:34.06 | ckknight | Eve's not bad |
| 01:34.09 | SaladFork | Stan - if he makes Eve, I am soooo making Adam |
| 01:34.13 | |Stan| | :D |
| 01:34.14 | theoddone33 | it needs a "hypothetical slot" |
| 01:34.20 | ckknight | Adam and Eve, not Adam and Steve! |
| 01:34.25 | theoddone33 | so I can give myself a magic item that gives me like... 30 int |
| 01:34.30 | theoddone33 | and see how it affects my spells |
| 01:34.39 | SaladFork | Theodd - No, the author of DrDmg said he wants to keep to the "now and here" theorycrafting |
| 01:34.44 | SaladFork | You may want to look at RatingBuster though |
| 01:34.50 | theoddone33 | yeah ratingbuster is nice |
| 01:34.51 | SaladFork | Specifically the stat summary (comparison) feature |
| 01:35.04 | theoddone33 | but it doesn't tell me the overall effect on, for instance, my healing output |
| 01:35.18 | theoddone33 | I just got into a fight in gchat about whether 81 heal or 30 int is better for a holy pally is all |
| 01:35.29 | SaladFork | Doesn't DrDamage have a feature where it tells you the bonus DPS/HPS of +10 spelldmg, or +10 spellcrit, etc.? |
| 01:35.35 | SaladFork | 81 heal, easily. |
| 01:35.45 | theoddone33 | no no no |
| 01:35.53 | theoddone33 | apparently I'll get laughed at by any holy pally for putting 81 heal on |
| 01:36.00 | Xinhuan | typically 81 heal is better assuming you don't run out of mana |
| 01:36.01 | theoddone33 | :( new guilds |
| 01:36.06 | SaladFork | Xin - he's a pally.... XD |
| 01:36.10 | Xinhuan | exactly |
| 01:36.38 | theoddone33 | I'm trying to think of it in terms of how much it affects my FoL |
| 01:36.58 | Xinhuan | i haven't seen any pally have a weapon with 30 int actually - except the pally in my guild that put 30 int on his gorehowl and links it to everyone |
| 01:36.59 | Xinhuan | ;p |
| 01:37.03 | theoddone33 | 30 int gives me 2 more casts |
| 01:37.15 | theoddone33 | which would outdo +40 heal per cast at my current gear level |
| 01:37.18 | SaladFork | Xin - I have a lowbie mage in my guild who somehow got a lot of gold. he buys all the enchants he can get form me |
| 01:37.22 | SaladFork | Got +30 int on a green staff |
| 01:37.22 | theoddone33 | assuming I get that low on mana |
| 01:37.23 | theoddone33 | which I don't |
| 01:37.32 | SaladFork | And then got +40 spelldmg on the one he got as a quest reward the next day |
| 01:37.33 | SaladFork | =D |
| 01:37.47 | SaladFork | theodd - You're a pally.... |
| 01:37.50 | SaladFork | You don't run out of mana |
| 01:37.52 | theoddone33 | I know |
| 01:37.52 | SaladFork | Ever. |
| 01:37.57 | SaladFork | Plus |
| 01:38.00 | SaladFork | Being able to do 2 more casts |
| 01:38.00 | theoddone33 | 30 int is like 0.5 spell crit too |
| 01:38.06 | SaladFork | Is useless if your tanks die because you're not healing them for enough |
| 01:38.13 | theoddone33 | I think it'd increase my overall healing longevity but not my healing output |
| 01:38.55 | theoddone33 | that's all I want that for, I want a box where I type in 30 int and see how much it affects my average FoL taking spell crit and mana into consideration |
| 01:39.26 | SaladFork | Theodd - I was actually working on an addon for that, =P |
| 01:39.29 | theoddone33 | rating buster + drdamage are a great combo |
| 01:39.35 | SaladFork | It let you dress a fake character up |
| 01:39.38 | theoddone33 | but I have to do gear comparisons in my head if it's gear I don't have |
| 01:39.40 | theoddone33 | yeah exactly |
| 01:39.40 | SaladFork | And it would theorycraft statistics for you |
| 01:39.48 | theoddone33 | I want to theorycraft dressing room |
| 01:39.53 | SaladFork | I was working on one |
| 01:39.54 | Xinhuan | where is ratingbuster's author? haven't seen him for a while |
| 01:39.54 | theoddone33 | with enchants :) |
| 01:39.56 | SaladFork | called WhatIf |
| 01:39.58 | SaladFork | Yeah, duh |
| 01:40.04 | SaladFork | I actually got help from the maker of DrDmg, =P |
| 01:40.29 | Recluse | there was a thread about a theorycraft dressing room type of addon. someone had one in development, was a screenshot of it |
| 01:40.47 | theoddone33 | it'd also be good for me deciding whether or not to roll on gear |
| 01:40.50 | theoddone33 | I've had that problem |
| 01:41.00 | SaladFork | Yep |
| 01:41.15 | SaladFork | I gave up my addon after I couldn't figure out how to make a frame accept a "dropped" item into it |
| 01:42.00 | *** join/#wowace stavmar (n=chatzill@cpe-70-112-16-173.austin.res.rr.com) |
| 01:42.13 | Recluse | theoddone33: http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=8073.0 screenshot a couple posts down. like that? |
| 01:42.32 | stavmar | does anyone have a decent theme, simple clean theam for Win XP |
| 01:42.33 | SaladFork | Heh |
| 01:42.42 | theoddone33 | yeah |
| 01:42.47 | theoddone33 | something like that would be great |
| 01:42.49 | SaladFork | That doesn't look like it's much theorycrafting, it just adds up a bunch of stats |
| 01:42.55 | SaladFork | At least my one LOOKED like the character frame, XD |
| 01:42.57 | theoddone33 | assuming it told me my heal power |
| 01:43.17 | theoddone33 | stuff like average heal and heal until oom |
| 01:44.12 | theoddone33 | how do you do that armory thing? |
| 01:44.19 | SaladFork | Which armory thing? |
| 01:44.20 | theoddone33 | !c us alleria redwhere |
| 01:44.24 | ThraeBot | theoddone33: Redwhere, Level 70 Dwarf Paladin (41/20/0). 9307 HP; 8703 Mana; 190 mana regen; 108 mp5; 16264 Armour; 72.9 Melee DPS; 3.57% melee crit; 166 spell crit; 140 +spell dmg; 1853 +heal; 3.57% dodge; 5% block; 46 resilience;[[ TBR: 735 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/2e3utx ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/2oo2ec ][ Updated: Sat Sep 1 21:55:18 2007 ]] |
| 01:44.25 | SaladFork | Ah, Thaebot |
| 01:44.33 | theoddone33 | that guy has +81 heal |
| 01:44.35 | ckknight | SaladFork, :OnReceiveItem |
| 01:44.38 | ckknight | or something |
| 01:44.45 | theoddone33 | possibly the most tricked out pally in the world, or top 5 for sure |
| 01:44.46 | SaladFork | Ckknight - would I attach it to the frame? |
| 01:44.53 | ckknight | you set a script |
| 01:44.54 | theoddone33 | top 5 for sure US, at least |
| 01:44.55 | SaladFork | Ckk |
| 01:45.03 | ckknight | yes? |
| 01:45.07 | SaladFork | I found a WoW API command that let you check what the cursor is holding |
| 01:45.13 | ckknight | right |
| 01:45.13 | SaladFork | And I figured I could trigger something on a OnMouseUp or w/e |
| 01:45.19 | ckknight | hey, SaladFork, check out Dewdrop |
| 01:45.25 | SaladFork | I just decided my skill wasn't at the point where I could pull off an addon of that sort |
| 01:45.27 | ckknight | it has the code in it. |
| 01:45.32 | SaladFork | Huh? |
| 01:45.34 | ckknight | http://www.yak.net/kablooey/scrabble/3letterwords.html <-- looking through |
| 01:45.36 | SaladFork | Isnt' DewDrop the flat menu system? |
| 01:45.46 | ckknight | yes, it has receive spell/item stuff in it |
| 01:45.49 | ckknight | check the code |
| 01:45.51 | ckknight | to see how I did it |
| 01:45.59 | SaladFork | Hmmm |
| 01:46.05 | SaladFork | Again |
| 01:46.07 | SaladFork | I just decided my skill wasn't at the point where I could pull off an addon of that sort |
| 01:46.19 | ckknight | clearly, I should rename Joker to LibHay |
| 01:46.26 | ckknight | and make everything in Lolspeak |
| 01:46.32 | ckknight | :CanHasBukkit()? |
| 01:46.33 | SaladFork | Ckk - HaiLib |
| 01:46.49 | ckknight | :Visible("Hai world!") |
| 01:46.59 | Recluse | rofl |
| 01:47.04 | SaladFork | function Addon:ORLY() return ~self:YARLY() end |
| 01:47.08 | *** join/#wowace Cryect (n=fefsd@pool-72-95-251-159.pitbpa.east.verizon.net) |
| 01:47.17 | ckknight | :-P |
| 01:47.32 | Xinhuan | call it L337. we'll do L337:R3g1ster() |
| 01:47.46 | ckknight | I actually no longer use Register/Unregister as names |
| 01:47.51 | ckknight | for clarity |
| 01:47.55 | SaladFork | SEXto determine the sex of |
| 01:47.56 | SaladFork | wtf? |
| 01:48.08 | SaladFork | I have NEVER used the word "sex" as a verb like that |
| 01:48.13 | ckknight | instead everything uses Add/Remove/Has, etc. |
| 01:48.15 | SaladFork | You are either |
| 01:48.24 | SaladFork | You are either "having sex with someone" or "sexing someone" |
| 01:48.26 | SaladFork | but wtf? |
| 01:48.29 | SaladFork | to determine the sex of? |
| 01:48.32 | ckknight | SaladFork, if you sex a chicken, you determine its sex |
| 01:48.41 | ckknight | chicken sexer is a real job. |
| 01:48.45 | SaladFork | Wow |
| 01:48.51 | SaladFork | Then again |
| 01:49.02 | SaladFork | I assume if you sexed a chick, you'd figure out at one point if she's female |
| 01:49.07 | ckknight | you squeeze em till their genitals come out |
| 01:49.13 | ckknight | then check |
| 01:49.20 | SaladFork | That sounds like quite the fulfilling job |
| 01:49.27 | SaladFork | Can you major as a Sexer in college? |
| 01:49.28 | ckknight | *shrug* |
| 01:49.40 | ckknight | no, you choose it after jumping over a fence |
| 01:49.42 | SaladFork | "What do you do for a living?" "Oh, you know, I sex." |
| 01:49.43 | ckknight | (illegal alien joke) |
| 01:49.57 | SaladFork | "You WHAT?!" "I sex chickens." "goodbye." |
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| 01:50.46 | ckknight | JEWto bargain with {offensive} |
| 01:50.54 | ckknight | I know we all want to use LibJew-1.0 |
| 01:50.55 | SaladFork | hahahaha |
| 01:51.06 | SaladFork | :SaveMoney(); |
| 01:51.09 | SaladFork | ClipCoupon() |
| 01:51.17 | SaladFork | <- I'm jewish, so I can make those jokes |
| 01:51.18 | ckknight | :StealAryansMoney() |
| 01:51.19 | SaladFork | =P |
| 01:51.20 | SaladFork | XD |
| 01:51.24 | SaladFork | :DonateToCkk(); |
| 01:51.35 | ckknight | Jews are very good at doing business with people who hate them :-P |
| 01:51.37 | SaladFork | :DontBuyHam(); |
| 01:51.42 | ckknight | lol, SaladFork |
| 01:51.54 | SaladFork | Haha |
| 01:51.58 | SaladFork | function BuyHam(); return false; end |
| 01:52.22 | SaladFork | Ckk - you know boolean algebra, right |
| 01:52.23 | SaladFork | ? |
| 01:52.26 | SaladFork | Or boolean logic, at least |
| 01:52.39 | ckknight | yea |
| 01:52.42 | SaladFork | I was thinking |
| 01:52.52 | SaladFork | Wouldn't it be more correct to say "To be XOR not to be, that is the question." |
| 01:52.53 | SaladFork | ? |
| 01:53.15 | ckknight | technically, it'd always return true whether you use XOR or OR |
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| 01:53.30 | SaladFork | Well, OR implies it can be one or the other OR both |
| 01:53.37 | ckknight | hrm: Oak |
| 01:53.38 | SaladFork | And it's illogical to have both "to be" AND "~to be" |
| 01:53.41 | ckknight | not a bad name |
| 01:54.02 | ckknight | well, (not x and x) == false by definition |
| 01:54.11 | SaladFork | duh |
| 01:54.14 | ckknight | LibOak-1.0 |
| 01:54.16 | SaladFork | Heh, oak |
| 01:54.19 | SaladFork | Oak:GrowLeaves(); |
| 01:54.56 | ckknight | Oak:ReturnToMotherGaia() |
| 01:55.14 | SaladFork | XD |
| 01:55.27 | SaladFork | Oak:ZomgTreeForm(); |
| 01:55.36 | SaladFork | Woah |
| 01:55.40 | SaladFork | DUDE |
| 01:55.43 | SaladFork | Ckk - call it Zomg |
| 01:55.48 | SaladFork | Then you could have addons like |
| 01:55.49 | SaladFork | ZomgBag |
| 01:55.54 | SaladFork | ZomgBuffs |
| 01:55.55 | ckknight | LibZomg-1.0 |
| 01:55.58 | ckknight | ZomgMap |
| 01:56.01 | SaladFork | ZomgBabble |
| 01:56.06 | starlon | :\ |
| 01:56.06 | SaladFork | ZomgWaypoints |
| 01:56.14 | SaladFork | ZomgChat |
| 01:56.17 | SaladFork | ZomgQuests |
| 01:56.18 | ckknight | all in all, that'd be a relatively good namespace for addons, but I don't relaly want to go that direction |
| 01:56.19 | SaladFork | It would work. |
| 01:56.29 | SaladFork | Hehe, that would be awesome |
| 01:56.35 | SaladFork | Screw having Lib before each addon |
| 01:56.38 | SaladFork | Come up with something unique |
| 01:56.49 | ckknight | no |
| 01:56.51 | SaladFork | LibScrew-1.0 |
| 01:56.56 | SaladFork | ScrewBuffs |
| 01:56.56 | ckknight | and Lib only comes before libraries |
| 01:56.57 | |Stan| | Lib thing is important |
| 01:56.58 | SaladFork | ScrewQuests |
| 01:57.01 | |Stan| | so you can easily identify |
| 01:57.09 | ckknight | ooh |
| 01:57.10 | ckknight | LibPro-1.0 |
| 01:57.17 | SaladFork | ProMap |
| 01:57.18 | ckknight | you know you're pro if you use LibPro-1.0 |
| 01:57.21 | SaladFork | hahaha |
| 01:57.24 | SaladFork | You have a tagline |
| 01:57.24 | SaladFork | XD |
| 01:57.31 | ckknight | also, you whore yourself on the street |
| 01:57.36 | |Stan| | iLib |
| 01:57.39 | SaladFork | It'd be almost like how all fubar addons have Fubar_SomethingFu |
| 01:57.42 | SaladFork | It'll be a pattern |
| 01:57.42 | ckknight | lol, |Stan| |
| 01:57.46 | SaladFork | ProTotems |
| 01:57.46 | |Stan| | xD |
| 01:57.52 | SaladFork | lol Stan |
| 01:58.03 | ckknight | SaladFork, I don't want to do that, so you know, we got away from doing that with Ace2 |
| 01:58.13 | SaladFork | ckk - Lol, I still see Fubar_SomethingFu |
| 01:58.43 | SaladFork | ckk - So do you dissapprove of addons named things like YssDarkpact/YssGuildShop? |
| 01:58.45 | ckknight | that's on purpose |
| 01:58.49 | ckknight | SaladFork, yes |
| 01:58.53 | SaladFork | Really? |
| 01:58.54 | ckknight | since Yss is attribution |
| 01:58.58 | SaladFork | Heh |
| 01:59.01 | SaladFork | You're sooo modest, =P |
| 01:59.02 | ckknight | to yssiril |
| 01:59.04 | ckknight | what? |
| 01:59.11 | ckknight | I think attribution in project names is childish |
| 01:59.14 | SaladFork | Well |
| 01:59.21 | SaladFork | It encourages end-users to find more addons by authors they like |
| 01:59.27 | SaladFork | For example, if they like YssDarkpact |
| 01:59.29 | ckknight | *shrug* |
| 01:59.31 | ckknight | I make by. |
| 01:59.34 | SaladFork | and later on yssaril releases YssSuperBags |
| 01:59.38 | SaladFork | They may be inclined to try it |
| 01:59.50 | SaladFork | Because they trust Yss as an addon author |
| 01:59.51 | SaladFork | /shrug |
| 01:59.54 | ckknight | okay, what if Yssaril drops off the map? |
| 01:59.59 | ckknight | and someone wants to take YssSuperBags over |
| 02:00.07 | SaladFork | So they rename it, duh |
| 02:00.08 | ckknight | they can't without renaming |
| 02:00.11 | ckknight | which is lame. |
| 02:00.16 | SaladFork | Ckk, it's happened before |
| 02:00.22 | SaladFork | Perl -> X-Perl |
| 02:00.41 | SaladFork | AF_Tooltip -> AF_Tooltip Extreme |
| 02:00.57 | ckknight | ugh |
| 02:01.03 | SaladFork | Or append "Fan's Update" as so many have |
| 02:01.13 | ckknight | if I ever go away, I'll be assigning my addons and libraries to someone for a single person to take over |
| 02:01.14 | starlon | Hey it's Extreme |
| 02:01.23 | ckknight | I'm not going to have multiple forks, that's what kills addons |
| 02:01.33 | SaladFork | Screw you ckknight - all my addons will have multiple forks |
| 02:01.37 | SaladFork | forkBags(); |
| 02:01.39 | durcyn | SaladFork: not sure you really want to be quoting those horrid names as examples in y our argument's favor... |
| 02:01.40 | Recluse | hrm - can you validate = function() as long as you return a table in the proper format? |
| 02:01.51 | SaladFork | durcyn - lol, it's for the sake of example |
| 02:01.58 | ckknight | Recluse, in Joker, you can |
| 02:02.02 | ckknight | Recluse, not in Ace2 |
| 02:02.10 | Recluse | well that's poo |
| 02:02.14 | ckknight | yea |
| 02:02.19 | ckknight | um, wait 2 weeks? |
| 02:02.22 | ckknight | :-P |
| 02:02.36 | SaladFork | Ckk - will JokerConfig support addon classifications? |
| 02:02.40 | starlon | Is Joker supposed to replace Ace? |
| 02:02.40 | Recluse | hehe - no workaround either? >.> |
| 02:02.47 | SaladFork | starlon - It succeeds it, =D |
| 02:03.00 | SaladFork | Recluse - Create the options table dynamically? |
| 02:03.03 | ckknight | starlon, that's my goal |
| 02:03.12 | ckknight | SaladFork, addon classifications? |
| 02:03.17 | SaladFork | ckknight - Yeah |
| 02:03.21 | Recluse | hmm |
| 02:03.23 | ckknight | explain yourself |
| 02:03.32 | SaladFork | http://www.wowace.com/wiki/Ace2_Categories |
| 02:03.35 | SaladFork | Categories, sorry |
| 02:03.42 | ckknight | well, yes |
| 02:03.55 | ckknight | not yet |
| 02:03.58 | ckknight | but I probably will support it |
| 02:04.03 | SaladFork | Would be nice |
| 02:04.08 | SaladFork | Khaos had a nice category system |
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| 02:04.27 | SaladFork | ckknight - Even if you have to do like a :DeclareCategory(), it would help organize config |
| 02:04.33 | SaladFork | And allow end users to find a certain addon config faster |
| 02:04.44 | ckknight | SaladFork, addons set it with their TOC, X-Category: Whatevers |
| 02:04.51 | Stan_ | ckknight: do you really think that joker will be done in 2 weeks? O.o |
| 02:04.58 | ckknight | Stan_, lol, it's already done |
| 02:05.02 | SaladFork | Yeah, but I was under the impression one addon (ie: Joker) can't read another addon's TOC |
| 02:05.04 | Stan_ | hm |
| 02:05.06 | ckknight | Stan_, I just need to finalize things |
| 02:05.13 | Corey | its already done? wow |
| 02:05.13 | ckknight | and port my addons over |
| 02:05.15 | Stan_ | you're insane :P |
| 02:05.22 | ckknight | I've been working on it for over a month |
| 02:05.23 | SaladFork | BTW |
| 02:05.34 | SaladFork | Some addons have such great names |
| 02:05.38 | SaladFork | *cough*Elkano*cough* |
| 02:05.42 | SaladFork | "bags_and_merchants" |
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| 02:05.48 | ckknight | and I'm the chief architect, so I don't need to confer with a whole bunch of people to make a change, they can tell me their advice along the way or afterwards |
| 02:06.07 | SaladFork | Ckk - Will Joker be updated through revisions and such? |
| 02:06.12 | ckknight | oh yes |
| 02:06.15 | ckknight | very much like Ace2 |
| 02:06.18 | SaladFork | TBH, I don't recall ever downloading a revision of Ace2 |
| 02:06.27 | ckknight | it's cause it's embedded in libraries... |
| 02:06.30 | ckknight | addons* |
| 02:06.38 | SaladFork | Crazy. |
| 02:06.39 | Sole | yep |
| 02:06.44 | Sole | whats so crazy? |
| 02:06.47 | Stan_ | ckknight: will joker replace Ace2? |
| 02:06.54 | ckknight | that's my goal |
| 02:06.57 | ckknight | we'll see if it happens |
| 02:06.57 | SaladFork | ckknight - Will the way externals are handled be any different in Joker? |
| 02:07.09 | ckknight | SaladFork, directory structure will be standardized |
| 02:07.11 | ckknight | outside of that, not really |
| 02:07.17 | SaladFork | Hmm |
| 02:07.24 | Stan_ | hm that means you have to keep both running till all addons migrated over |
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| 02:07.35 | SaladFork | Is sylvanaar the creature of WAU? |
| 02:07.37 | ckknight | Stan_, sadly, yes. Joker's pretty light, though |
| 02:07.45 | Sole | basically all the weird things we've had to get used to in Ace2 are changed to actually make sense in Joker |
| 02:07.48 | Sole | thats the biggest change |
| 02:07.51 | Stan_ | ckknight: got 2gb of ram..no problem for me :P |
| 02:07.56 | ckknight | hehe |
| 02:07.57 | ckknight | nice |
| 02:08.01 | SaladFork | Anyone know? |
| 02:08.06 | ckknight | also, Joker doesn't have any known memory leaks either ;-) |
| 02:08.10 | Sole | yeah 2gb is fun :) |
| 02:08.12 | Stan_ | awesome |
| 02:08.29 | ckknight | leaks are where it gets you |
| 02:08.33 | ckknight | I mean, AceEvent-2.0 has a nasty leak |
| 02:08.37 | Stan_ | ckknight: what will be the next addon you'll port? |
| 02:08.40 | ckknight | can't be fixed without breaking things, though |
| 02:08.44 | ckknight | Stan_, Parrot |
| 02:08.52 | ckknight | Stan_, which means I gotta port all the libs for it |
| 02:08.52 | Stan_ | nice :P |
| 02:09.01 | ckknight | I don't have my computer, though |
| 02:09.01 | Stan_ | Soar |
| 02:09.03 | ckknight | using my mom's |
| 02:09.06 | Stan_ | k |
| 02:09.06 | ckknight | which is kinda old |
| 02:09.11 | Corey | whens the first thing gonna be available for it? |
| 02:09.19 | ckknight | Corey, CowTip is already working on Joker |
| 02:09.24 | ckknight | in branches, you can get it |
| 02:09.27 | Corey | oh nice, where can i get that |
| 02:09.36 | Corey | great |
| 02:09.39 | ckknight | http://svn.wowace.com/wowace/branches/CowTip/Joker/CowTip |
| 02:09.41 | SaladFork | btw ckknight - will a better naming of libs be enforced? |
| 02:09.44 | ckknight | yes. |
| 02:09.49 | SaladFork | Because honestly, some of these libs I would have NO idea what they do if someone didn't tell me |
| 02:09.51 | ckknight | must start with Lib[A-Z] |
| 02:09.59 | SaladFork | ie: Periodictable |
| 02:10.04 | ckknight | but the actual names of things won't be enforced, sorry |
| 02:10.05 | SaladFork | or Sink, really |
| 02:10.08 | SaladFork | awww |
| 02:10.13 | ckknight | *shrug* |
| 02:10.46 | ckknight | So, I'm liking "Oak" or "Zoo" best |
| 02:10.51 | ckknight | leaning towards Oak, though |
| 02:10.54 | theoddone33 | what's it for? |
| 02:11.10 | Stan_ | Oak...strong..reliable |
| 02:11.12 | Stan_ | good name |
| 02:11.12 | ckknight | theoddone33, renaming Joker |
| 02:11.17 | ckknight | it is good, also 3-letters, so small |
| 02:11.22 | theoddone33 | ah |
| 02:11.22 | Stan_ | yup |
| 02:11.26 | SaladFork | I'm not a fan |
| 02:11.28 | SaladFork | =( |
| 02:11.32 | SaladFork | LibFork ftw |
| 02:11.35 | ckknight | ... |
| 02:11.53 | theoddone33 | what's joker? :( |
| 02:11.55 | SaladFork | I mean, is LibOak really what you want to call your framework? |
| 02:12.04 | SaladFork | theoddone33 - What was going to replace Ace2 before complications |
| 02:12.04 | ckknight | one nice thing about Oak as well is that there's bound to be an image in WoW that shows some wood |
| 02:12.07 | SaladFork | It's Ace2's "successor" |
| 02:12.11 | theoddone33 | ah |
| 02:12.20 | SaladFork | ckk - Why does Wow have to have an image for it? =P |
| 02:12.34 | Stan_ | ckknight: is there a joker version of cartographer yet? |
| 02:12.45 | ckknight | SaladFork, well, in LibJokerConfig-1.0, an image would be nice |
| 02:12.49 | ckknight | also for the minimap button |
| 02:12.53 | ckknight | Stan_, not yet, just CowTip |
| 02:12.56 | Stan_ | kk |
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| 02:13.02 | ckknight | soon, I'll port all of em |
| 02:13.07 | SaladFork | Ckk - you can just use Icon.tga |
| 02:13.12 | SaladFork | Why do you _have_ to have a WoW icon for it |
| 02:13.26 | ckknight | because I don't want to include a tga with an embedded lib |
| 02:13.37 | ckknight | since addons which embed it will all need the icon |
| 02:13.40 | SaladFork | ah |
| 02:13.50 | SaladFork | Is there a website you can browse through icons included in WoW? |
| 02:14.08 | Stan_ | ckknight: do you want to offer CowTip and CowTip for Joker side by side or just scrap the Ace2 Version? |
| 02:14.15 | Stan_ | (same for all other addons) |
| 02:14.24 | ckknight | Stan_, oh, I'd eventually scrap the Ace2 version |
| 02:14.32 | ckknight | I mean, already, the Joker version of CowTip has more features |
| 02:14.32 | Stan_ | awesome |
| 02:14.44 | Stan_ | as long as my settings still work |
| 02:14.47 | ckknight | well, 1 more feature |
| 02:14.47 | SaladFork | Ckk - what features would that be? |
| 02:15.07 | ckknight | Stan_, sadly, due to the change in the database structure, that may not be kept, sorry |
| 02:15.15 | ckknight | SaladFork, hold down a modifier to show the tooltip |
| 02:15.19 | ckknight | only show when modifier is held down |
| 02:15.34 | SaladFork | You've had requests for it? |
| 02:15.35 | Stan_ | ckknight: hm no problem in the case of cowtip...I'll wait till antiarc updates his config :p |
| 02:15.49 | SaladFork | Stan - if DogTag-1.0 doesn't change much, you can just copy + paste the tags over |
| 02:15.51 | SaladFork | =P |
| 02:15.54 | ckknight | Stan_, :-P |
| 02:16.00 | Stan_ | hm true SaladFork |
| 02:16.00 | ckknight | yea, it should just be copy-paste |
| 02:16.11 | SaladFork | And about 95% of the config is in the dogtags anyway |
| 02:16.16 | SaladFork | the rest being misc options and bg options |
| 02:16.19 | SaladFork | fade, too |
| 02:16.23 | SaladFork | easy to remember and recreate |
| 02:16.38 | Stan_ | I guess Joker is allready 2.2 conform? |
| 02:16.56 | SaladFork | Hmm |
| 02:16.57 | ckknight | 2.2? |
| 02:17.00 | SaladFork | I should make a library |
| 02:17.00 | ckknight | oh, yea |
| 02:17.22 | Stan_ | k..that makes me want...joker...NOW :P |
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| 02:17.48 | SaladFork | Personally, I'm really looking forward to a centralized config window for all Joker addons |
| 02:17.58 | SaladFork | Then people will actually have a reason to request addons be ported to Joker |
| 02:17.58 | SaladFork | =P |
| 02:18.25 | ckknight | how's this for an icon for Oak? http://www.wowwiki.com/Image:INV_Misc_Branch_01.png ;-) |
| 02:18.34 | Stan_ | SaladFork: something like niagara? |
| 02:18.40 | ckknight | Stan_, Joker has it |
| 02:18.48 | ckknight | Stan_, a niagara-like centralized options system |
| 02:19.02 | Stan_ | that makes me love it even more |
| 02:19.15 | SaladFork | There was a video posted of a slightly outdated version of it, =P |
| 02:19.15 | ckknight | yea, a big issue was umpteen billion FuBar plugins |
| 02:19.25 | SaladFork | Ckk - that would work, but it might not look good if it's not at full size |
| 02:19.27 | ckknight | and console commands are pointless in most cases (not all!) |
| 02:20.19 | Stan_ | mmm is joker updateble via WAU atm? |
| 02:20.32 | SaladFork | Stan - WAU grabs whatever it needs from files.wowace.com I believe |
| 02:20.40 | SaladFork | And WowAce let's ANY addon author have their stuff there |
| 02:20.46 | SaladFork | Whether it uses Ace or not |
| 02:20.51 | ckknight | Stan_, not yet, it's in branches. |
| 02:21.00 | ckknight | I haven't put it in trunk yet |
| 02:21.00 | Stan_ | kk |
| 02:21.04 | ckknight | cause it hasn't been ready |
| 02:21.05 | SaladFork | Ckk - Where are you finding these pictures? |
| 02:21.10 | ckknight | wowwiki |
| 02:21.16 | SaladFork | Yeah, is there a list somewhere? |
| 02:21.16 | Stan_ | ckknight: you could do that after renaming it :) |
| 02:21.19 | ckknight | http://www.wowwiki.com/WoWWiki:WoW_Icons/Icon_List |
| 02:21.20 | SaladFork | Or are you jsut checking random pages |
| 02:21.35 | ckknight | I'm really thinking of going with Oak |
| 02:21.39 | SaladFork | Damn you. |
| 02:21.49 | SaladFork | Ckk - why not get inspired for the name by the list of icons? |
| 02:21.56 | SaladFork | Oh yuck, it doesn't actually show the icons? |
| 02:22.02 | SaladFork | That would have been so much cooler |
| 02:22.02 | ckknight | click on em |
| 02:22.04 | Stan_ | BackStabLib |
| 02:22.06 | Stan_ | lmfao |
| 02:22.06 | ckknight | yea... |
| 02:22.08 | SaladFork | Yeah, but you have to do back/foward |
| 02:22.10 | SaladFork | forward* |
| 02:22.16 | SaladFork | it would be so much cooler to just be able ot see all of them |
| 02:22.18 | SaladFork | at the same time |
| 02:22.38 | ckknight | hrm, I agree |
| 02:22.45 | Stan_ | open all in tabs and watch your browser die |
| 02:22.48 | SaladFork | I wonder if there's a website for that |
| 02:23.12 | SaladFork | OOOOOOOOH |
| 02:23.14 | SaladFork | http://www.wowwiki.com/Category:WoW_Icons:_Ability |
| 02:23.15 | SaladFork | I win. |
| 02:23.31 | ckknight | nice |
| 02:23.41 | ckknight | I still like oak |
| 02:23.52 | Stan_ | oak is cool |
| 02:23.52 | SaladFork | Joker > Oak |
| 02:23.55 | ckknight | it's small (3-letters), easy to spell, sounds good to the ear |
| 02:24.17 | Chompers | Wood? |
| 02:24.23 | ulic | Zap |
| 02:24.23 | Stan_ | weed |
| 02:24.27 | Xinhuan | call it Ice. |
| 02:24.31 | Xinhuan | wordplay on Ace ;p |
| 02:24.41 | ckknight | lol |
| 02:24.41 | Xinhuan | and there's lots of "icy" icons |
| 02:24.42 | SaladFork | Call it Gizmo |
| 02:24.42 | SaladFork | =D |
| 02:24.44 | ulic | Ice is nice. |
| 02:24.44 | ckknight | nah, Xinhuan |
| 02:24.46 | Xinhuan | and its short |
| 02:24.56 | SaladFork | http://www.wowwiki.com/Image:INV_Gizmo_02.png |
| 02:24.57 | Stan_ | Xen |
| 02:24.59 | Stan_ | Xion |
| 02:25.05 | Stan_ | aXe |
| 02:25.07 | ckknight | Xen is another programming thing |
| 02:25.13 | Stan_ | I know lol |
| 02:25.17 | ulic | Ckk :) |
| 02:25.44 | Stan_ | aXe would be a nice word play |
| 02:25.45 | SaladFork | Oh woah |
| 02:25.47 | SaladFork | http://www.wowwiki.com/Category:WoW_Icons:_UI_PaperDoll |
| 02:25.50 | SaladFork | I didn't know those existed |
| 02:25.50 | Stan_ | like "wohoo there is no "c" anymore" |
| 02:25.53 | Stan_ | its X |
| 02:26.04 | ckknight | lol, Stan_ |
| 02:26.12 | Stan_ | ^^ |
| 02:26.13 | ckknight | Axe isn't bad |
| 02:26.18 | ulic | yea, the c always annoyed me :D |
| 02:26.23 | ckknight | how come? |
| 02:26.48 | SaladFork | Ckk - you should use ChargePositive.png/ChargeNegative.png |
| 02:26.53 | ulic | just messing around, it's only a letter, I love all letter, they help me read, write, and spell poorly :) |
| 02:27.06 | SaladFork | Ckk - if you want short, make LibGem |
| 02:27.16 | ckknight | link |
| 02:27.21 | ckknight | LibGem's not bad |
| 02:27.24 | SaladFork | http://www.wowwiki.com/Image:Spell_ChargePositive.png |
| 02:27.24 | SaladFork | http://www.wowwiki.com/Image:Spell_ChargeNegative.png |
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| 02:27.32 | SaladFork | As for gem: |
| 02:27.36 | SaladFork | http://www.wowwiki.com/Image:Spell_Misc_ConjureManaJewel.png |
| 02:27.47 | ckknight | one issue is that JewelCrafters might think it's for them |
| 02:27.53 | ckknight | *shrug* |
| 02:27.54 | SaladFork | Lol |
| 02:27.56 | ckknight | not a huge issue, though |
| 02:27.59 | SaladFork | Axe would appeal to melee classes |
| 02:28.03 | SaladFork | Oak would appeal to... Tree druids. |
| 02:28.06 | ckknight | not sure why you hate Oak |
| 02:28.09 | ckknight | :-P |
| 02:28.15 | Nargiddley | Oak seems good |
| 02:28.17 | Xinhuan | ice Ice ice |
| 02:28.19 | Xinhuan | :) |
| 02:28.27 | SaladFork | I still think Oak is a horrid name for a WoW framework |
| 02:28.36 | ckknight | why, SaladFork? |
| 02:28.38 | Nargiddley | sounds like a good solid base for things |
| 02:28.38 | SaladFork | It's just not... "cool" |
| 02:28.46 | SaladFork | Iunno, I'll adapt to whatever |
| 02:28.49 | ckknight | oak is strong, solid, made of wood |
| 02:28.51 | SaladFork | I guess I've just gotten used to Joker |
| 02:29.09 | ulic | all the libs could be tree names, Elm, Palm, Ash... |
| 02:29.22 | ckknight | no, ulic |
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| 02:29.37 | ulic | I figured you'd say that :) |
| 02:29.47 | Chompers | that would be incredibly confusing |
| 02:30.14 | ckknight | and wowoak.com is available :-P |
| 02:30.30 | ckknight | not sure I'd want to get it, though |
| 02:30.37 | SaladFork | WowAce is cool looking |
| 02:30.38 | SaladFork | WowOak? |
| 02:30.39 | SaladFork | heh |
| 02:30.57 | ckknight | make it Oak'd |
| 02:30.58 | ckknight | :-P |
| 02:31.16 | ckknight | hrm, Oak does lack a certain cool factor |
| 02:31.20 | ckknight | but it is good in other respects |
| 02:31.37 | SaladFork | Hehe |
| 02:31.39 | SaladFork | LibBomb |
| 02:31.48 | SaladFork | "It'll blow your mind" |
| 02:32.29 | Recluse | lol |
| 02:32.35 | SaladFork | That's odd, WowWiki seems to be timing out |
| 02:32.41 | ckknight | yea |
| 02:32.44 | ckknight | we crashed it... |
| 02:32.47 | SaladFork | =P |
| 02:33.22 | SaladFork | It's back |
| 02:33.24 | SaladFork | And Ckk |
| 02:33.24 | ckknight | yay |
| 02:33.32 | SaladFork | Are you ready to say "SaladFork, you are awesome."? |
| 02:33.45 | ckknight | with regards to? |
| 02:33.47 | SaladFork | http://www.wowwiki.com/WoWWiki:WoW_Icons/Icon_List/Images |
| 02:34.14 | ckknight | awesomesauce |
| 02:34.46 | SaladFork | Hey Ckk - LibLollipop |
| 02:34.46 | SaladFork | http://www.wowwiki.com/Image:INV_Misc_Food_26.png |
| 02:34.53 | ckknight | small names |
| 02:34.58 | SaladFork | LibLolly |
| 02:35.11 | SaladFork | Hehe |
| 02:35.16 | SaladFork | So many pictures |
| 02:35.37 | SaladFork | LibTubes |
| 02:35.44 | SaladFork | http://www.wowwiki.com/Image:INV_Gizmo_Pipe_01.png |
| 02:35.46 | SaladFork | through |
| 02:35.48 | SaladFork | http://www.wowwiki.com/Image:INV_Gizmo_Pipe_04.png |
| 02:37.09 | SaladFork | I like http://www.wowwiki.com/Image:INV_Misc_Gear_01.png |
| 02:37.12 | SaladFork | Use that for a config icon or something |
| 02:37.33 | Stan_ | Bird |
| 02:38.08 | *** join/#wowace PProvost_ (n=PProvost@WoWUIDev/WAU/Admin/Pprovost) |
| 02:38.08 | *** mode/#wowace [+v PProvost_] by ChanServ |
| 02:38.18 | SaladFork | Ckk - you want short? Why not just call it 1 letter? |
| 02:38.19 | SaladFork | LibX |
| 02:38.19 | ckknight | hey PProvost_ |
| 02:38.31 | ckknight | SaladFork, I don't know about that |
| 02:38.35 | SaladFork | Liby? |
| 02:38.35 | Stan_ | SaladFork: aXe would be pronounced "x" |
| 02:38.37 | Stan_ | sooo |
| 02:38.54 | ckknight | I pronounce X like eks |
| 02:38.56 | Corey | what was wrong with his oak idea |
| 02:38.58 | SaladFork | me too |
| 02:39.06 | Xinhuan | just leave it as Joker. and use that Samwise face as the icon ;p |
| 02:39.08 | Stan_ | me too |
| 02:39.09 | SaladFork | It doesn't have that "cool" |
| 02:39.13 | SaladFork | Yeah, Joker is cool |
| 02:39.23 | SaladFork | Xin - http://www.wowwiki.com/WoWWiki:WoW_Icons/Icon_List/Images |
| 02:39.25 | SaladFork | Find an icon for it |
| 02:39.27 | PProvost_ | Hey ckk, what's up? |
| 02:39.30 | ckknight | I really don't know about using Joker |
| 02:39.32 | Xinhuan | its called temp |
| 02:39.34 | Xinhuan | i think' |
| 02:39.38 | Xinhuan | the icon name that is |
| 02:39.40 | Xinhuan | temp.blp |
| 02:39.41 | ckknight | PProvost_, just saying hey, trying to come up with a name for my addon framework |
| 02:39.47 | PProvost_ | Describe it |
| 02:39.59 | PProvost_ | (Late to the party again) |
| 02:40.06 | Xinhuan | i'm not about to load a page with about 3000 icons |
| 02:40.14 | ckknight | PProvost_, http://www.wowace.com/wiki/Joker |
| 02:40.21 | ckknight | thinking of renaming it from Joker |
| 02:40.35 | SaladFork | Don't be silly Xinhuan |
| 02:40.36 | SaladFork | it only has 3700 |
| 02:40.49 | ckknight | LibBunny - http://www.wowwiki.com/Image:INV_Jewelcrafting_GoldenHare.png |
| 02:40.50 | ckknight | :-P |
| 02:41.04 | ckknight | or LibOwl: http://www.wowwiki.com/Image:INV_Jewelcrafting_JadeOwl.png |
| 02:41.12 | dylanm | Carrot |
| 02:41.15 | Recluse | this /print some.variable is awesome XD |
| 02:41.22 | SaladFork | I know Recluse, I love it too |
| 02:41.26 | ckknight | Recluse, you're welcome ;-) |
| 02:41.27 | SaladFork | you can also do /script luacode |
| 02:41.31 | Recluse | hehe |
| 02:41.48 | SaladFork | Though Ace2 intercepting /print and doing that full data is just awesome |
| 02:41.50 | Recluse | but only cause it supports dumping entire tables too |
| 02:42.02 | tkor | http://www.wowwiki.com/Image:INV_Ammo_Bullet_03.png is pretty awesome :) |
| 02:42.07 | SaladFork | I love how you can /print FrameName |
| 02:42.16 | Stan_ | ckknight: hm Zoo is really cool, too. all the animal addons working with zoo..mmm |
| 02:42.17 | SaladFork | tkor - there's an icon called BigOne |
| 02:42.19 | ckknight | Recluse, also, frames |
| 02:42.20 | SaladFork | That's like that but cooler |
| 02:42.23 | tkor | aha |
| 02:42.35 | SaladFork | sorry |
| 02:42.37 | SaladFork | TheBiggerOne |
| 02:42.42 | SaladFork | http://www.wowwiki.com/Image:INV_Gizmo_TheBiggerOne.png |
| 02:42.44 | Recluse | oh nice |
| 02:42.53 | SaladFork | Ck - call it LibGizmo, =D |
| 02:43.14 | ckknight | I'm not sure about Gizmo |
| 02:43.39 | SaladFork | LibBattery-1.0 |
| 02:43.40 | SaladFork | http://www.wowwiki.com/Image:INV_Battery_01.png |
| 02:43.51 | Stan_ | Zoo, Oak or Joker |
| 02:43.57 | Stan_ | my favorites |
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| 02:44.06 | dylanm | You guys aren't even trying to think of puns. |
| 02:44.07 | SaladFork | I like Joker most, with Gem in second |
| 02:44.12 | Stan_ | oh and aXe |
| 02:44.13 | SaladFork | dylan - You do it then, =P |
| 02:44.15 | Xinhuan | LibOne - One Lib to rule them all! |
| 02:44.23 | ckknight | Xinhuan, lol, actually thought of that |
| 02:44.29 | ckknight | but it's just kinda weird |
| 02:44.32 | PProvost_ | Forx |
| 02:44.38 | SaladFork | I still love LibZomg |
| 02:44.38 | SaladFork | =D |
| 02:44.47 | ckknight | LibLol |
| 02:44.49 | ckknight | LolMap |
| 02:44.49 | PProvost_ | DOn't know where that came from, but it just popped into my head as I was reading it. |
| 02:44.52 | ckknight | :-P |
| 02:44.55 | SaladFork | LolMageTimers |
| 02:45.03 | Stan_ | omgMap |
| 02:45.09 | SaladFork | omgQuests |
| 02:45.13 | PProvost_ | Kinda like Frx (Framework). Kinda like Fork (F*CK). Kinda like many things. |
| 02:45.14 | PProvost_ | Forx |
| 02:45.19 | Xinhuan | there's nothing weird |
| 02:45.21 | Xinhuan | its just a name |
| 02:45.24 | Xinhuan | call it anything you want |
| 02:45.30 | Xinhuan | and it will become a standard name |
| 02:45.34 | SaladFork | Ck - LibYourNameHere |
| 02:45.36 | Stan_ | names are important |
| 02:45.45 | ckknight | names are important |
| 02:45.53 | ckknight | especially if I want to gain mindshare |
| 02:46.06 | PProvost_ | Deuce? Just 'cause its funny? |
| 02:46.18 | ckknight | no, someone's bound to get offended by that |
| 02:46.37 | Xinhuan | well its basis comes from ace2, so it should be related in some way, still suggesting Ice |
| 02:46.55 | Stan_ | aXe |
| 02:46.58 | ulic | Spade |
| 02:47.02 | ckknight | lol, ulic |
| 02:47.06 | ckknight | Axe isn't bad |
| 02:47.19 | ckknight | but it's a bit too close to Ace for my liking. *shrug* |
| 02:47.26 | dylanm | I'd expect LibAxe to make my druid smell better. |
| 02:47.27 | ckknight | also, I'm starting off at 1.0, not 3.0 |
| 02:47.38 | ckknight | or at least get the womens |
| 02:47.46 | SaladFork | Ck - http://www.wowwiki.com/WoWWiki:WoW_Icons/Icon_List |
| 02:47.50 | Stan_ | advertisment for aXe: "It's five times better than Ace2" |
| 02:47.53 | Stan_ | X meaning 10 |
| 02:47.54 | SaladFork | err |
| 02:47.55 | SaladFork | mislink |
| 02:47.57 | Stan_ | roman system |
| 02:47.59 | SaladFork | Ck - http://www.wowwiki.com/Category:WoW_Icons:_Inventory_Axe |
| 02:48.00 | ckknight | lol |
| 02:48.06 | PProvost_ | This is a stretch... but in poker, two aces is called Bullets |
| 02:48.15 | ckknight | Axe - For men. |
| 02:48.16 | SaladFork | Isn't it called rockets? |
| 02:48.26 | Stan_ | lol |
| 02:48.27 | SaladFork | I'm fairly certain "Pocket Rockets" refers to a pair of aces |
| 02:48.33 | PProvost_ | Pocket Rockets, Rockets, Bullets, American Airlines... all mean two aces |
| 02:48.44 | ckknight | what's 3 aces? |
| 02:48.49 | Xinhuan | Poker is an ok name too, just a letter change from Joker hehe |
| 02:48.55 | ckknight | lol, Xinhuan |
| 02:48.55 | Stan_ | thats what I was about to say lol |
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| 02:48.58 | Stan_ | we allready got 2 aces |
| 02:49.11 | ulic | Trip Bullets |
| 02:49.17 | Xinhuan | ok why did you name CowTip CowTip? |
| 02:49.23 | ckknight | because it's hilarious. |
| 02:49.25 | Xinhuan | why wasn't it SheepTip? |
| 02:49.26 | SaladFork | It is. |
| 02:49.28 | Xinhuan | or MooTip |
| 02:49.28 | Stan_ | cause it sounds Funneh |
| 02:49.30 | ckknight | you don't tip sheep |
| 02:49.30 | SaladFork | Who the hell tips sheep? |
| 02:49.31 | ckknight | you tip cows |
| 02:49.34 | ulic | who goes sheep tipping? |
| 02:49.37 | SaladFork | You tell him Ck. |
| 02:49.37 | ckknight | cow tipping is a sport |
| 02:49.46 | Xinhuan | so call this framework Cow |
| 02:49.52 | Xinhuan | and CowTip would be your signature addon |
| 02:49.53 | Xinhuan | for it ;p |
| 02:49.54 | SaladFork | Woah |
| 02:49.56 | ckknight | nah |
| 02:49.58 | PProvost_ | A-K is called Big Slick and a variety of other names. You could call it Slick |
| 02:50.00 | SaladFork | Ckk - you HAVE to use this icon: http://www.wowwiki.com/Category:WoW_Icons:_Inventory_Axe |
| 02:50.08 | ckknight | SaladFork, wrong link |
| 02:50.11 | SaladFork | DAMNIT |
| 02:50.17 | PProvost_ | A-3 is called AshTray. LOL |
| 02:50.17 | SaladFork | Ckk - you HAVE to use this icon: http://www.wowwiki.com/Image:Spell_Shadow_Brainwash.png |
| 02:50.50 | Stan_ | BrainLib |
| 02:50.57 | SaladFork | MindLib |
| 02:51.01 | ulic | call it King, then when and addon is migrated it get's Kinged, like in checkers, makes it more powerful :) |
| 02:51.03 | SaladFork | NeuronLib |
| 02:51.07 | ckknight | Lib is at the start |
| 02:51.08 | SaladFork | ThoughtLib |
| 02:51.08 | SaladFork | heh |
| 02:51.13 | SaladFork | LibLibLib |
| 02:51.23 | ckknight | ulic, thought about that, but Ace is better than King in most games |
| 02:51.34 | ulic | we'll play Ace low :) |
| 02:51.51 | dylanm | But then you could be all "Wrath of the LibKing" next year |
| 02:52.02 | ckknight | ooh |
| 02:52.04 | starlon | lol |
| 02:52.18 | Kuja^ | lol |
| 02:52.22 | SaladFork | Just call it "Lib" |
| 02:52.23 | ulic | most entertaining saturday in here in a long time. |
| 02:52.24 | SaladFork | LibLib |
| 02:52.26 | PProvost_ | How about Temple |
| 02:52.36 | ckknight | PProvost_, want to keep the name as small as possible |
| 02:52.39 | ckknight | though Temple is nice |
| 02:52.42 | PProvost_ | Again, it just popped into my head for no reason. |
| 02:52.50 | PProvost_ | I'm reading your docs and 'pop' |
| 02:53.00 | ckknight | SaladFork, nah, it does more than just libraries, it does addons as well |
| 02:53.02 | SaladFork | Have LibLib, and its successor be LibLibLib, then LibLibLibLib |
| 02:53.03 | SaladFork | =D |
| 02:53.11 | SaladFork | say that out loud |
| 02:53.12 | SaladFork | =P |
| 02:53.28 | Xinhuan | i would prefer to call LibLibLibLib as LibPow4 |
| 02:53.29 | Xinhuan | ;p |
| 02:53.30 | ckknight | Say "Bob Loblaw" |
| 02:53.32 | Recluse | LibLib = Lib² |
| 02:53.37 | tkor | Fort |
| 02:53.38 | ulic | that's what I was just typing CK :P |
| 02:53.51 | ulic | AD rules, it's a crying shame it was cancelled. |
| 02:53.52 | SaladFork | Ck - LibSofaKing |
| 02:53.56 | SaladFork | Before you dismiss it |
| 02:53.58 | SaladFork | say it out loud |
| 02:53.58 | SaladFork | =D |
| 02:54.00 | ckknight | SoFaking? |
| 02:54.03 | SaladFork | no, try again |
| 02:54.15 | SaladFork | Say "I am sofa king. We tar dead" |
| 02:54.19 | SaladFork | I can't believe you haven't heard of this |
| 02:54.26 | ckknight | I haven't |
| 02:54.29 | SaladFork | Say "I am sofa king. We tar dead" |
| 02:54.30 | SaladFork | out loud |
| 02:54.31 | SaladFork | right now |
| 02:54.42 | ckknight | oh |
| 02:54.47 | ckknight | maybe if you hold your tongue or something |
| 02:54.49 | ckknight | here's a good one |
| 02:54.58 | ckknight | hold your tongue and say "I was born on a pirate ship" |
| 02:55.16 | SaladFork | heh |
| 02:55.17 | SaladFork | I get it |
| 02:55.18 | ZealotOnAStick | ckknight: what's that reference from? Because one of the Hunters in my guild is "Bobloblaw" |
| 02:55.27 | ulic | Arrested Development |
| 02:55.30 | ckknight | ZealotOnAStick, Arrested Development |
| 02:55.35 | ulic | freaking hillarious |
| 02:55.35 | SaladFork | Ck - LibBil |
| 02:55.46 | ulic | I have a hunter on Lightbringer named Bobloblaw |
| 02:55.53 | tkor | LibMaster |
| 02:55.57 | Xinhuan | LibJack |
| 02:56.03 | ckknight | LibKing really isn't bad. |
| 02:56.14 | Xinhuan | Jack, King, Queen, Ace! |
| 02:56.23 | Thorgard | LibEral |
| 02:56.36 | ckknight | I may go with it because: Pimpness, Wrath of the LibKing, it's short, people know how to spell it |
| 02:56.36 | ulic | Boat == Full House |
| 02:56.54 | ulic | but Boat isn't catchy |
| 02:57.03 | ulic | and it might sink if it has a leak |
| 02:57.11 | ckknight | LibSink-1.0 |
| 02:57.20 | ckknight | wouldn't go well with Boat |
| 02:57.28 | Thorgard | LibFloat |
| 02:57.44 | Thorgard | Or if it's boat.. LibTanic |
| 02:57.52 | ckknight | I think I may go with LibKing |
| 02:57.59 | SaladFork | WowKing? |
| 02:57.59 | ckknight | and just keep telling people that Ace is low this hand |
| 02:58.06 | SaladFork | Don't you think that sounds presumptuous? |
| 02:58.17 | ckknight | so? |
| 02:58.45 | SaladFork | LibTrump |
| 02:58.45 | ckknight | :-P |
| 02:58.46 | SaladFork | =D |
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| 03:00.18 | PProvost_ | Forx, Temple, Crystal, etc. Simple one word things. Two syllabels or less. No fancy puns required or else you gotta explain them all the time. A name should be something that conjures and image or a feeling so people remember it. |
| 03:00.21 | Xinhuan | so my guild member suggested to call it Ram |
| 03:00.28 | Xinhuan | because Ram stands for Really Awesome Mods |
| 03:00.30 | Xinhuan | :) |
| 03:00.33 | ckknight | no |
| 03:00.35 | ckknight | no acronyms |
| 03:00.37 | ckknight | I hateses them |
| 03:00.48 | Xinhuan | nobody would know its a acronym hehe |
| 03:00.57 | ckknight | PProvost_, King doesn't do that? |
| 03:01.07 | PProvost_ | King is alright. |
| 03:01.15 | PProvost_ | So are some of the other 1 worders. |
| 03:01.21 | Xinhuan | Ram is a strong animal |
| 03:01.32 | PProvost_ | Ram is a sheep man. We all know what people do with sheep. |
| 03:01.39 | Xinhuan | but but sheep is good |
| 03:01.42 | Tinyboom | acelib tinylib flib(futurelib:p) |
| 03:01.42 | Xinhuan | i sheep people all the time :) |
| 03:01.43 | ckknight | sexings? |
| 03:01.49 | Xinhuan | meh meh |
| 03:01.51 | Xinhuan | meeeh |
| 03:01.52 | PProvost_ | Shave em, eat em and f**k em (in New Zealand). |
| 03:02.05 | PProvost_ | LOL |
| 03:02.08 | ckknight | ah, New Zealand |
| 03:02.10 | PProvost_ | hehe |
| 03:02.13 | ckknight | 50 sheep to every orc |
| 03:02.27 | Tinyboom | "black sheep" nice movie:p |
| 03:02.27 | PProvost_ | I can't wait to say that to our guild NZer |
| 03:02.46 | ckknight | my dad's a kiwi |
| 03:02.48 | ckknight | :-P |
| 03:02.56 | PProvost_ | Honestly, the only thing I dislike about King is the relationship to the word Ace. Either be Ace3 or don't. |
| 03:03.25 | SaladFork | Ck - skip 3 |
| 03:03.29 | SaladFork | LibAce4 |
| 03:03.39 | SaladFork | or even LibAce-3.5 |
| 03:03.40 | ckknight | PProvost_, they won't let me |
| 03:03.48 | PProvost_ | Lib is okay on the filenames, but don't have it in the main name. |
| 03:04.06 | ckknight | well, I mean, it'd be called King |
| 03:04.12 | ckknight | but the library/folder will be LibKing-1.0 |
| 03:04.16 | PProvost_ | Dig it |
| 03:04.27 | ckknight | same as Joker => LibJoker-1.0 |
| 03:04.27 | PProvost_ | Snow |
| 03:04.32 | ckknight | Snow? |
| 03:04.35 | PProvost_ | Blizzard |
| 03:04.36 | PProvost_ | Snow |
| 03:04.45 | PProvost_ | WHy not? |
| 03:04.46 | PProvost_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:04.56 | ulic | Sleet :P |
| 03:05.07 | ckknight | Snow's not bad |
| 03:05.11 | *** join/#wowace Unrealii (i=NEXT96@121.129.140.49) |
| 03:05.16 | ckknight | I think of Snowball, but that's okay |
| 03:05.23 | ckknight | and no, not in the children's play sense |
| 03:05.31 | PProvost | Snowball could be a packaged Snow addon. :) |
| 03:05.41 | PProvost | e.g. Tarball |
| 03:05.55 | starlon | :/ |
| 03:06.09 | starlon | In a zip file amirite |
| 03:06.16 | Stan_ | LibCrystal |
| 03:06.19 | PProvost | yeah yeah |
| 03:06.36 | PProvost | Crystal... yeah I threw that out up a bit |
| 03:06.48 | PProvost | I GOT IT! |
| 03:06.49 | PProvost | Slab |
| 03:07.03 | PProvost | As in Foundation |
| 03:07.08 | PProvost | As in "holds up the house" |
| 03:07.12 | PProvost | Slab |
| 03:07.33 | Stan_ | Fag O.o |
| 03:07.35 | Stan_ | LibFag |
| 03:08.04 | Xinhuan | Atom |
| 03:08.09 | PProvost | Been used |
| 03:08.23 | PProvost | Not in this space, but in others. |
| 03:08.47 | PProvost | How about... Simple |
| 03:08.58 | PProvost | Then you're committed to living up to the name |
| 03:09.09 | SaladFork | Just go with LibGood, =P |
| 03:09.12 | ulic | It's like naming your company Reliable :) |
| 03:09.16 | SaladFork | LibBest, =D |
| 03:09.32 | ulic | LibSoSo-1.0, it even ryhmes |
| 03:10.05 | PProvost | http://www.simple-reliable.com/ |
| 03:10.09 | PProvost | haha |
| 03:10.22 | ckknight | Snowball = cumming in someone's mouth and then making out and trading the semen back and forth |
| 03:10.36 | Stan_ | yay |
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| 03:11.15 | ulic | ckknight: if you search enough, I'm sure anything you can come up with has some kind of sexual conatation(SP?) |
| 03:11.15 | *** mode/#wowace [+v Shirik] by ChanServ |
| 03:11.23 | ckknight | connotation |
| 03:11.27 | ckknight | hey Shirik |
| 03:11.40 | PProvost | Alright... I'm gonna go play for a while. I've thrown out my best ones. If I think of any new, I'll drop back in. |
| 03:11.40 | ulic | like I said earlier I use letters for spelling poorly :) |
| 03:11.44 | Shirik | hi |
| 03:13.36 | ckknight | thanks, PProvost |
| 03:13.38 | Stan_ | hm |
| 03:13.40 | Stan_ | Saw |
| 03:13.44 | Stan_ | naah |
| 03:13.47 | ckknight | Shirik, any advice on what I should call my addon framework? |
| 03:13.51 | ckknight | I liked the movie Saw |
| 03:13.55 | Shirik | caramelldansen |
| 03:13.55 | Stan_ | me too |
| 03:14.02 | Xinhuan | http://thesaurus.reference.com/browse/ace <-- i didn't know Ace has 37 meanings |
| 03:14.05 | Xinhuan | o_O |
| 03:14.12 | Shirik | ~dict Ace |
| 03:14.19 | Shirik | lies, only 19 |
| 03:14.29 | Xinhuan | well in the thesaurus there's 37 entries |
| 03:14.31 | Stan_ | who named Ace? |
| 03:14.35 | Xinhuan | for similar words |
| 03:14.38 | Stan_ | the whole wowace thing? |
| 03:14.41 | Xinhuan | with similar meanings to ace |
| 03:14.47 | ckknight | Stan_, Turan |
| 03:16.01 | ckknight | Stan_, who is no longer with us |
| 03:16.07 | ckknight | he appointed Kaelten as his successor |
| 03:16.13 | ckknight | this was before I came on the scene |
| 03:16.25 | Shirik | ckknight: |
| 03:16.29 | Shirik | lua> getnames"Saw" |
| 03:16.29 | cladbot | Shirik: Sax, Say, Saz, Sca, Sce, Sci, Sco, Scu, Scy, Sea, Seb, Sec, Sed, See, Sef, Seg, Seh, Sei, Sej, Sek, Sel, Sem, Sen, Seo, Sep, Seq, Ser, Ses |
| 03:16.30 | Stan_ | k thx |
| 03:16.43 | ckknight | Shirik, I was thinking of going with King |
| 03:16.50 | Shirik | lua> getnames "King" |
| 03:16.51 | cladbot | Shirik: Kinh, Kini, Kinj, Kink, Kinn, Kino, Kint, Kinu, Kiny, Kiob, Kioc, Kiod, Kiof, Kiog, Kioh, Kioj, Kiok, Kiol, Kiom, Kion, Kiop, Kioq, Kior, Kios, Kiot, Kiov, Kiow, Kiox, Kioy, Kioz, Kipa, Kipe, Kipf, Kiph, Kipi, Kipo, Kipp, Kips, Kipt, Kipu, Kipy, Kiqa, Kiq... (result truncated) |
| 03:16.57 | Shirik | kingkipo |
| 03:16.58 | Shirik | that's awesome |
| 03:17.03 | Shirik | or kingkipu |
| 03:17.09 | starlon | Not one sex in that bunch |
| 03:17.11 | Stan_ | but King < Ace |
| 03:17.20 | ckknight | no, Ace is low this hand |
| 03:17.21 | SaladFork | lua> getnames "Ace" |
| 03:17.22 | cladbot | SaladFork: Ach, Aci, Ack, Aco, Act, Acu, Acy, Ada, Add, Ade, Adh, Adi, Ado, Adu, Ady, Aeb, Aec, Aed, Aef, Aeg, Aeh, Aej, Aek, Ael, Aem, Aen, Aep, Aeq, Aer, Aes, Aet, Aev, Aew, Aex, Aey, Aez, Afa, Afe, Aff, Afh, Afi, Afo, Aft, Afu, Afy, Aga |
| 03:17.25 | starlon | LibSex |
| 03:18.01 | Stan_ | what about using words from a different language? |
| 03:18.22 | ckknight | not against it |
| 03:18.31 | ckknight | I'd prefer to use something that people will be able to spell easily |
| 03:18.57 | Xinhuan | Uno |
| 03:19.12 | Stan_ | btw you won't believe that the german word for "ace" is "ass" :p |
| 03:19.26 | starlon | LibAnh |
| 03:19.29 | Xinhuan | LibUno |
| 03:19.32 | starlon | Big brother |
| 03:19.46 | Stan_ | LibDrei |
| 03:19.47 | ckknight | Stan_, I believe it |
| 03:20.19 | Stan_ | ckknight: can be funny when playing with english people |
| 03:20.20 | ckknight | Ich lernte Deutsch in Schule fuer drei Jahre |
| 03:20.26 | Stan_ | oooh :P |
| 03:20.41 | ckknight | been a while, though |
| 03:22.04 | Stan_ | LibCrow |
| 03:22.41 | Stan_ | LibDock |
| 03:22.48 | Stan_ | LibBase |
| 03:23.01 | Stan_ | LibRoot |
| 03:23.08 | ckknight | hrm |
| 03:23.10 | SaladFork | LibHQ |
| 03:23.10 | ulic | LibRary |
| 03:23.12 | Stan_ | LibRock |
| 03:23.21 | ckknight | Rock's not bad |
| 03:23.25 | Stan_ | Rock is a cool word |
| 03:23.29 | ckknight | very much so |
| 03:23.31 | Shirik | LibRock |
| 03:23.34 | Shirik | it does as much as the name implies |
| 03:23.40 | Stan_ | yup |
| 03:23.46 | ckknight | it acts as the foundation for your addons |
| 03:23.59 | ckknight | you know what Jesus said about the man who built his house on sand, after all |
| 03:23.59 | Shirik | and with nothing else |
| 03:23.59 | Stan_ | its a solid base |
| 03:24.02 | Shirik | it's as good as a rock :P |
| 03:24.18 | Shirik | I do? |
| 03:24.19 | Stan_ | and I bet you find a good icon for it |
| 03:24.26 | ckknight | oh, I bet I can |
| 03:25.07 | Stan_ | rock's cool |
| 03:25.23 | ckknight | orionshock, I'll ping you! |
| 03:25.27 | orionshock | sorry, |
| 03:25.29 | ulic | sure the basic lowest end ammo icon is a good rock |
| 03:25.32 | Xinhuan | easier to use Blessing of King's icon for LibKing |
| 03:25.35 | orionshock | didn't know if that actualy did something client side |
| 03:25.44 | orionshock | < new to irc |
| 03:25.58 | ckknight | ulic, I bet pet rock has a good icon |
| 03:26.12 | ulic | I haven't seen one of those, but probably |
| 03:26.18 | ckknight | http://wow.allakhazam.com/db/item.html?witem=20030 |
| 03:26.29 | dylanm | I've never really liked BoK's icon... it's just a helm. I don't make a connection. |
| 03:26.59 | ckknight | yea... |
| 03:27.02 | Xinhuan | because a king wears a crown |
| 03:27.10 | Xinhuan | although they didn't make it look crownish |
| 03:27.21 | ckknight | http://wow.allakhazam.com/search.html?q=rock |
| 03:27.58 | ckknight | http://wow.allakhazam.com/db/item.html?witem=30507&locale=enUS;source=live might be best |
| 03:28.33 | ckknight | oh, this is good: http://www.wowwiki.com/Category:WoW_Icons:_Inventory_Stone |
| 03:28.54 | ckknight | I like rock |
| 03:29.27 | Stan_ | :D |
| 03:29.47 | ulic | and when a mod is rewritten it's been rocked! |
| 03:30.01 | Stan_ | I'll rock ya mod! |
| 03:30.39 | ckknight | yea! |
| 03:30.52 | ckknight | also, wcrock.com is available, which is a plus if I decide to take that route |
| 03:31.07 | ulic | wc? |
| 03:31.14 | ckknight | warcraft |
| 03:31.18 | ckknight | wowrock.com is taken :-( |
| 03:31.37 | ulic | we'll beat them over the head with nerf bats until they give it to us :) |
| 03:31.51 | ckknight | lol |
| 03:31.52 | ckknight | some LLC |
| 03:32.04 | Stan_ | looks like a webdesign company |
| 03:36.13 | ckknight | oh well, I like rock |
| 03:36.18 | ckknight | I believe I'm going to stick with it |
| 03:36.25 | ckknight | also, rocks smash things |
| 03:36.48 | Kaelten | Silviu-: no, thats not what I decided |
| 03:36.57 | ulic | Rocks are used for lots of things |
| 03:37.19 | ckknight | including smashing. |
| 03:37.37 | Stan_ | ckknight: go rename it and move a version to trunk :p |
| 03:37.59 | ckknight | Stan_, I was kinda hoping that Kaelten would get the multi-svn thing to work before I moved to trunk |
| 03:38.10 | ckknight | any ETA, Kaelten? |
| 03:38.26 | Kaelten | probably a few more weeks |
| 03:38.33 | Kaelten | curse's mediaservers are driving me nuts |
| 03:38.37 | ckknight | *sigh* |
| 03:38.42 | Stan_ | :( |
| 03:38.44 | ckknight | I can imagine |
| 03:38.52 | Kaelten | What I decided is that Ace3 shall be a team effort and designed by said group. |
| 03:39.01 | Kaelten | ya its kinda nuts |
| 03:39.12 | Kaelten | the current setup is very fragile |
| 03:39.26 | Kaelten | we tried to do what should have been straightforward maintence and opened one hell of a can of worms |
| 03:39.36 | ckknight | fragile? must be French? and you know how shoddy that must be |
| 03:40.26 | Kaelten | ya I probably shouldn't get into specifics |
| 03:40.42 | Kaelten | but I'm sure you've seen problems that when you try to do something that should be straightforward |
| 03:40.50 | Kaelten | and stuff continuelly crawls out of the woodwork |
| 03:41.01 | ckknight | like termites |
| 03:41.22 | ckknight | we get that all the time, doing simple maintenance, oh, your entire house is eaten through |
| 03:41.32 | ckknight | water damage is also bad |
| 03:41.44 | Kaelten | like random 403's, and unintellegable logic |
| 03:42.05 | ckknight | eh, we're both talking about bugs |
| 03:42.15 | Kaelten | yep |
| 03:42.28 | Kaelten | now imagine that thats happening with a pool of more than 50k files |
| 03:42.46 | ckknight | ouchies |
| 03:42.50 | ckknight | you still have all the media, though, right? |
| 03:42.57 | Kaelten | ya |
| 03:43.06 | Kaelten | nothing technically has been lost |
| 03:43.24 | ckknight | maybe I should just put LibRock-1.0 on trunk but keep the revision # arbitrarily at 0 |
| 03:43.41 | Xinhuan | so not going with King anymore? heh |
| 03:43.42 | ckknight | then as the multi-svn thing happens, it can move to $Revision$, starting at 1 |
| 03:43.49 | ckknight | Xinhuan, guess not |
| 03:43.50 | Kaelten | LibRock? |
| 03:43.58 | ckknight | Kaelten, gonna rename Joker |
| 03:44.08 | Kaelten | so decided not to work with us on Ace3? |
| 03:44.34 | ckknight | oh, I offered to allow Joker to be used as a base, which you refused |
| 03:44.46 | ckknight | and I figure I'd rather have something working now than in 3 months, as you stated to me earlier |
| 03:45.08 | ckknight | seeing as I've very close to done and don't want my work to be thrown to the dogs |
| 03:45.10 | ckknight | since it's good work |
| 03:45.21 | Kaelten | well regardless I don't think its impossible for Ace3 and Joker to coexist |
| 03:45.30 | ckknight | Kaelten, one request |
| 03:45.34 | Kaelten | my only statement is I don't want any rivalry between the two |
| 03:45.36 | ckknight | Kaelten, compatible open-source licenses |
| 03:45.37 | Stan_ | but it would make things more difficult |
| 03:45.40 | Xinhuan | it just feels *redundant* |
| 03:45.42 | ckknight | so that we can steal each other's code |
| 03:45.52 | Xinhuan | to have an extra framework |
| 03:45.54 | ckknight | I've gone with LGPL for all my stuff, but given enough inclination, that could change |
| 03:46.14 | Kaelten | Ya I don't see the problem with keeping things compatable that way |
| 03:46.25 | ckknight | also, I'm using LibStub for my stuff and all |
| 03:46.29 | Kaelten | Xinhuan: I agree, but sadly there are some diametrical views. |
| 03:46.40 | ckknight | Kaelten, if you make a mixin system, I'll want to collaborate with that so both systems can work with each other |
| 03:46.54 | Xinhuan | what exactly does that mean Kaelten? |
| 03:47.18 | Kaelten | as long as all non core libs are careful they should be interlopable and not have a duplicate in memory |
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| 03:47.48 | Kaelten | Xinhuan: I think one major point is the Team of One viewpoint vs design by committee |
| 03:48.17 | ckknight | like C++ (design by committee) vs. C# (chief architect) |
| 03:48.34 | ckknight | I'm fond of the chief architect situation, Kaelten and others are fond of design-by-committee |
| 03:48.51 | ckknight | Kaelten, oh, and quite a few libraries will become framework-independent, e.g. DogTag, Babble |
| 03:48.55 | Kaelten | Ace is meant to be a communittee effort and requires DbC |
| 03:49.03 | ckknight | Rock isn't |
| 03:49.23 | ckknight | well, granted, I'll accept advice/code/etc. from anyone |
| 03:49.46 | ckknight | as long as it is sound |
| 03:49.49 | Kaelten | but when it comes down to it its your project and you will do what you want |
| 03:49.57 | ckknight | quite true |
| 03:50.11 | ckknight | just as my other projects have been |
| 03:50.15 | ckknight | and really, those have worked out fine |
| 03:50.25 | Kaelten | ya |
| 03:50.41 | Kaelten | like I said I have no problem with the projects coexisting |
| 03:50.47 | Kaelten | even sharing wowace as a community home |
| 03:50.58 | ckknight | yea, I'd like that |
| 03:50.58 | Stan__ | I guess Kaelten just doesn't want Ace3 to be a One-Man-Show |
| 03:51.12 | Kaelten | Stan__: pretty much |
| 03:51.29 | Xinhuan | it isn't exactly a one-man-show if kaelten accepts the offer to let Joker be the ace3 base? |
| 03:51.38 | Kaelten | with the goals of having a better project and longer lifespan |
| 03:52.06 | Kaelten | Xinhuan: it'd involve introspecting ever bit of Joker, and probably rewriting chunks. and wouldn't speed up anything |
| 03:52.37 | ckknight | *shrug* Ace2 was practically a one-man-show. I made a lot of design decisions and coded quite a large amount |
| 03:53.16 | ckknight | over time, though, quite a few people hacked on it |
| 03:53.27 | Xinhuan | rewriting chunks would still be faster than starting from scratch |
| 03:53.49 | Kaelten | thats true, but very few people really grock 100% of Ace2's code |
| 03:54.12 | ckknight | but Ace2 is horrible when it comes to commenting and documentation |
| 03:54.15 | ckknight | I'll take blame for that |
| 03:54.16 | Kaelten | I'd wager you are, if not the only one, then one of a small handful |
| 03:54.29 | ckknight | AceOO was a bitch to wrap my head around |
| 03:54.36 | Kaelten | Xinhuan: I have every intention of pulling ideas and code from Joker |
| 03:54.54 | ckknight | I know, I'll just put Rock's revision as what it is minus 100000 |
| 03:55.06 | ckknight | then upgrade to 1 when the multi-svn thing happens |
| 03:55.45 | Stan__ | Kaelten: well but having 2 frameworks would suck...using Rock as a base and all others joining and working on it would be better imho |
| 03:56.20 | ckknight | people are free to join me, I'm not going to stop anyone. It's their decision, even if it's not sanctioned as Ace3 |
| 03:56.23 | Kaelten | Stan__: we already have 2 frameworks |
| 03:56.28 | ckknight | I'm not gonna expect to push it on anyone |
| 03:57.15 | Kaelten | no, and thats my only request/requirement |
| 03:57.21 | SaladFork | eww, rock? |
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| 03:57.25 | SaladFork | Boring, literally. |
| 03:57.32 | Kaelten | if we're going to have multiple frameworks then there has to be friendly relations |
| 03:57.55 | Antiarc | Doesn't that mostly defeat the purpose of a framework, anyhow? |
| 03:58.00 | Antiarc | Avoiding rework? |
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| 04:02.50 | DruidsAgainstTot | ? |
| 04:02.53 | Antiarc | Much of the purpose of the Ace philosophy is to avoid rewriting code, and to avoid running multiple copies of code that do the same thing |
| 04:02.58 | DruidsAgainstTot | I dont see anyone in the user list, lol |
| 04:03.01 | Antiarc | Seems to be a shame to break that |
| 04:03.18 | Kaelten | I agree |
| 04:03.33 | DruidsAgainstTot | Is this normal |
| 04:03.43 | DruidsAgainstTot | ? the user list is empty? Should i update trillian? |
| 04:04.18 | Kaelten | don't use trillian :( |
| 04:04.24 | Kaelten | er I don't* that is |
| 04:04.51 | orionshock | chatzilla > Trillian |
| 04:04.52 | DruidsAgainstTot | hehe it's irc for nooblets |
| 04:05.41 | DruidsAgainstTot | In any event, I'm looking to start my first mod |
| 04:06.02 | DruidsAgainstTot | I got everything loaded, got my hello world app, now how do i make a button in the middle of my screen? |
| 04:06.09 | DruidsAgainstTot | "the ace way" |
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| 04:07.33 | Funkeh` | I'm MISSING good stuff? |
| 04:07.36 | Funkeh` | ffs NightHawkTheSane |
| 04:08.03 | orionshock | lol "the ace way" |
| 04:08.40 | Funkeh` | Don't talk whilst I scroll back |
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| 04:10.42 | Stan__ | Funkeh`: you got a lot of stuff to read :p |
| 04:11.02 | DruidsAgainstTot | wow, connection issues here.. i didnt see any responses because i accidentally disconnected :/ |
| 04:11.23 | DruidsAgainstTot | can you point me to a better IRC client? |
| 04:11.34 | break19 | mac, linux, or the anti-christ? |
| 04:11.40 | DruidsAgainstTot | anti-christ please |
| 04:11.45 | break19 | www.mirc.com |
| 04:12.00 | orionshock | Chatzilla - a firefox addon :D |
| 04:12.04 | break19 | psh |
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| 04:12.24 | Antiarc | I use Pidgin on Windows |
| 04:12.34 | Antiarc | I'm quite happy with it. |
| 04:12.40 | Antiarc | Since I have AIM + google talk all together. |
| 04:14.13 | DruidsAgainstTot | i have chatzilla installed, so i just navigate to irc:// ...? |
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| 04:15.21 | Funkeh` | OK, well, that wasn't as interesting as I thought it would be |
| 04:15.29 | Michael___ | got it |
| 04:15.30 | Funkeh` | Infact its everything I already knew would happen. |
| 04:15.35 | Michael___ | Ok, so how do i create a button usable in combat :) |
| 04:16.08 | Michael___ | "the ace way" :) |
| 04:17.15 | Antiarc | There's not really an ace way to do that |
| 04:17.23 | Antiarc | Just create a secure frame and set it up with properties |
| 04:17.40 | Michael___ | ok |
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| 04:19.26 | Michael___ | Second question, I use bongos, can i make an addon that animates a certain button |
| 04:19.46 | Michael___ | with glow effect, transparent, or color? |
| 04:20.34 | Antiarc | Sure. That shouldn't be hard. |
| 04:21.04 | ckknight | DruidsAgainstTot, well, there are many ways to make a button |
| 04:21.28 | DruidsAgainstTot | Michael___ <--- DruidsAgainstTotems in a better IRC client, i'll logoff here :) thanks though |
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| 04:22.26 | Michael___ | Antiarc, could you point me in a direction to look? |
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| 04:24.56 | Antiarc | For what, specifically? |
| 04:25.31 | ggilbert | Think he's looking for a pointer on how secure buttons work |
| 04:25.33 | Michael___ | I would like to make my first ace addon, the totem killer |
| 04:25.54 | Michael___ | If you mouseover a totem in the arena, a totem button highlights indicating "CLICK ME" |
| 04:26.02 | Michael___ | and it moonfires that totem |
| 04:26.11 | ggilbert | Pretty sure that won't work. |
| 04:26.16 | Michael___ | I'm a programmer anyways so i figured to try |
| 04:26.32 | Michael___ | I have a macro made, you can see it at: www.smyers.net/kwak.htm |
| 04:27.12 | Michael___ | I just want the addon to highlight the appropriate killer button |
| 04:27.19 | Michael___ | violates addon rules? |
| 04:27.58 | Xinhuan | you cannot change what a button does while in combat |
| 04:28.15 | Michael___ | the button hits a certain macro every time? |
| 04:28.32 | Michael___ | the button was already predefined to earthbind totem, for example, i just want an addon to highlight the button? |
| 04:28.36 | Xinhuan | you cannot make a button appear/disappear ni combat either |
| 04:28.44 | Michael___ | no glow effects? |
| 04:29.00 | Xinhuan | glow effects i think yes |
| 04:29.07 | Xinhuan | but to make the button appear/disappear, no |
| 04:30.24 | Sole | ckknight: have you already renamed Joker to Rock? |
| 04:30.25 | Xinhuan | so the only possible way to have such an addon is to predefine say 10 buttons for 10 different totems, and have all shown on the screen, and highlight the appropriate button on mouseover |
| 04:30.36 | Michael___ | Yes, exactly you know what i want |
| 04:30.41 | Michael___ | but i only care about 5 specific totems |
| 04:30.45 | Xinhuan | that is possible |
| 04:30.56 | Michael___ | Great, now where do i start :) |
| 04:31.15 | Xinhuan | but it is also problematic because hunters can name their pets "Grounding Totem" |
| 04:31.21 | Xinhuan | i've seen it before. |
| 04:31.25 | Michael___ | That's fine, its a known issue |
| 04:31.27 | Michael___ | I can deal |
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| 04:31.52 | Xinhuan | you can make 5 secure buttons, and set the type as "macro" and set what it does |
| 04:32.03 | kergoth | What's the best addon for cooldown timer bars at the moment? |
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| 04:32.08 | Xinhuan | then in your mouseover code for units |
| 04:32.11 | Michael___ | ok i have a hello world app already tested working on wow |
| 04:32.14 | Michael___ | what is a secure button |
| 04:32.16 | Xinhuan | just highlight the appropriate button |
| 04:32.42 | Xinhuan | a secure button is a button that allows you to cast spells/items while in combat |
| 04:32.48 | Michael___ | Ok, how do i make one |
| 04:32.56 | Michael___ | local b = new SecureButton |
| 04:33.01 | Xinhuan | you inherit from SecureButtonTemplate |
| 04:33.04 | Xinhuan | or something |
| 04:33.07 | Michael___ | i'm sure you need to x, y it too |
| 04:33.22 | Michael___ | local b = new SecureButtonTemplate("name", x, y) |
| 04:33.24 | Michael___ | closer? |
| 04:33.31 | Sole | local b = CreateFrame("Button", foo, "SecureButtonTemplate" afaik |
| 04:33.31 | Xinhuan | far from it |
| 04:33.32 | ckknight | hey all, back |
| 04:33.36 | ckknight | good pie |
| 04:33.40 | ckknight | Sole, not yet, I was just about to |
| 04:33.41 | Sole | I forgot the 2nd argument |
| 04:33.55 | Michael___ | i have code snippits to show/hide buttons when enter/leave arena |
| 04:33.56 | ckknight | Michael___, lua doesn't have a new keyword |
| 04:34.08 | Michael___ | ok |
| 04:34.11 | ckknight | CreateFRame("Button", "MahButton", UIParent, "SecureButtonTemplate") |
| 04:34.16 | ckknight | err, CreateFrame |
| 04:34.21 | Kaelten | ckknight: as far as embed |
| 04:34.34 | Sole | ckknight: why the hell are you going with Rock? :P |
| 04:34.39 | Xinhuan | that code will create a securebutton, but it will still have no size, anchor, texture or whatsoever |
| 04:34.40 | Kaelten | the general idea extending from LibStub is that the libraries will decalre an Embed method |
| 04:34.51 | ckknight | Sole, Rock is a foundation, it's short, easy to spell, sounds relatively cool |
| 04:35.02 | Kaelten | Lib:Embed(namespace) |
| 04:35.03 | Xinhuan | you will need to set those properties, and the proper attributes for it to function as a macro button |
| 04:35.04 | ckknight | Kaelten, I was thinking of renaming Embed, cause it's counterintuitive |
| 04:35.08 | ckknight | Kaelten, not sure about that, though |
| 04:35.19 | ckknight | it's closer to an :Inject |
| 04:35.20 | Kaelten | not really it embed's the library in the target namespace |
| 04:35.25 | ckknight | true |
| 04:35.30 | ckknight | I may not change it due to laziness |
| 04:35.31 | Michael___ | i'm going to make a function called "function CreateButton(TotemType, x, y) |
| 04:35.45 | Sole | good for you |
| 04:35.48 | ckknight | Kaelten, either way, that's how Joker does it now |
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| 04:35.54 | ckknight | Michael___, sounds like a plan |
| 04:36.01 | Kaelten | ya |
| 04:36.06 | Sole | its also function AddonName:CreateButton |
| 04:36.07 | ckknight | Sole, any thoughts on Rock, then? |
| 04:36.10 | Michael___ | how do i set "Macro" button type |
| 04:36.12 | Sole | or local function CreateButton |
| 04:36.23 | ckknight | Michael___, make a secure button, then mess with the attributes |
| 04:36.25 | Michael___ | what's the difference between local function and function |
| 04:36.26 | Kaelten | are you going to support UnEmbed? |
| 04:36.32 | ckknight | Kaelten, :Unembed |
| 04:36.38 | ckknight | yea, I support it |
| 04:36.41 | ckknight | I need to |
| 04:36.45 | ckknight | in case library upgrades |
| 04:36.45 | Kaelten | have you figured out a good use case yet? |
| 04:36.53 | Sole | button:SetAttribute("type1", "macro") |
| 04:36.55 | Sole | button:SetAttribute("macrotext1", macro1) |
| 04:37.18 | Michael___ | what does the "1" denote |
| 04:37.20 | ckknight | Kaelten, when a library upgrades, it iterates through all its objects, unembeds, upgrades the lib, iterates again, embeds |
| 04:37.23 | Sole | macro1 = "/foo" |
| 04:37.23 | Michael___ | type1 |
| 04:37.24 | Michael___ | ooh, i see |
| 04:37.29 | ckknight | Kaelten, or wait, perhaps I'm wrong |
| 04:37.34 | ckknight | lemme check my code |
| 04:37.42 | Kaelten | hrm, why not just overwrite the old embed? |
| 04:37.49 | ckknight | hang on... |
| 04:37.54 | Sole | ckknight: well Rock makes sense but its not zesty enough for me (yea I said zesty) |
| 04:38.10 | Kaelten | realistically we should never reduce the API on libraries because that should just trigger a major version pump |
| 04:38.12 | Kaelten | er bump |
| 04:38.38 | ckknight | Kaelten, oh, that's mostly so :OnUnembed fires properly |
| 04:38.57 | ckknight | Kaelten, oh, I know what I do! |
| 04:39.04 | ckknight | Kaelten, you have mixin Alpha |
| 04:39.08 | ckknight | library Bravo |
| 04:39.13 | ckknight | Alpha:Embed(Bravo) |
| 04:39.24 | ckknight | so Bravo has Alpha's mixin methods |
| 04:39.30 | ckknight | now you upgrade Bravo |
| 04:39.38 | ckknight | before the upgrade occurs, Alpha unembeds. |
| 04:39.53 | ckknight | meaning all the proper metainformation about it goes away |
| 04:40.07 | Sole | arent the core libraries mixins themselves? |
| 04:40.11 | ckknight | because with Joker, you can iterate through an object's mixins and through a mixin's objects |
| 04:40.15 | ckknight | Sole, sure are. |
| 04:40.20 | ckknight | Sole, well, some are, not all |
| 04:40.30 | Sole | well yeah I meant some |
| 04:40.40 | Michael___ | how do i give my button coords(x,y) and color, and icon? |
| 04:40.42 | Sole | Im trying to figure out what you guys are trying to do |
| 04:40.50 | Michael___ | is there API for these button attributes somewhere |
| 04:40.52 | Sole | embed a mixin within a library? |
| 04:40.56 | Sole | and then discard the mixin |
| 04:40.59 | ckknight | yes. |
| 04:41.03 | ckknight | Michael___, http://www.wowwiki.com/Widget_API |
| 04:41.15 | Sole | why would you need that? |
| 04:41.15 | Kaelten | well Unembed sounds like an internal maintence method for the libraries |
| 04:41.21 | Sole | to mix Ace3 and Joker? |
| 04:41.32 | Michael___ | so i am correct in stating that a button is a widget, this is wow lingo not ace lingo? |
| 04:41.39 | ckknight | Kaelten, but it's useful in other cases, and I use it in unit tests |
| 04:41.51 | Sole | Michael___: yes |
| 04:41.53 | ckknight | Kaelten, it's staying in Joker, but not necessarily "required" |
| 04:41.58 | ckknight | Michael___, yes. |
| 04:41.59 | Sole | also rename yourself /nick Michael |
| 04:42.06 | ckknight | or change to a different name |
| 04:42.23 | Kaelten | ya, as long as you don't require an unembed declaration if embed is declared we should be fine. |
| 04:42.25 | Michael___ | first time IRC, what's the command to rename |
| 04:42.32 | Kaelten | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:42.33 | ckknight | Kaelten, oh no, that's not required |
| 04:42.36 | Sole | I just gave it to you |
| 04:43.02 | ckknight | Sole, well, the idea is so that Ace3 and Joker will be able to work seamlessly together, currently libraries are shared, but the mixin system will be a bit distinct |
| 04:43.08 | ckknight | no, LUA |
| 04:43.16 | ckknight | different name |
| 04:43.33 | LUA | working on it |
| 04:44.27 | ckknight | Kaelten, one issue is that joker keeps track of an object's mixins. Any idea on how to share this data cleanly? so Ace3lib:Embed(Alpha) and I can somehow know that Ace3lib is embedded into Alpha? |
| 04:44.41 | Totems | I would like my buttons movable out of combat. b:SetAttribute("Movable", true) |
| 04:44.49 | ckknight | Joker has for mixin in Joker:IterateObjectMixins(object) do end |
| 04:44.55 | Kaelten | hrm might be able to expose it somehow. |
| 04:45.10 | Kaelten | that'll be saved in an internal registry |
| 04:45.14 | ckknight | Kaelten, there's also weirdness of it calling :OnEmbedEnable et al |
| 04:45.20 | ckknight | on the mixins |
| 04:45.49 | Kaelten | should remain a function of the respective Addon factories |
| 04:46.36 | Kaelten | brb |
| 04:48.40 | Sole | sounds like theres going to be a big headache concerning Joker/Ace3 friendliness |
| 04:48.47 | Recluse | hehe |
| 04:49.11 | Totems | Can i paste a 10 line function in this chat for discussion? |
| 04:49.17 | Totems | would you prefer i pastey it |
| 04:49.18 | Sole | no |
| 04:49.22 | Sole | pastey it |
| 04:49.23 | ckknight | pastey >= 3 lines |
| 04:49.26 | Antiarc | More than 2 lines = pastey |
| 04:49.56 | Totems | http://ace.pastey.net/73267 |
| 04:49.59 | CIA-14 | 03ckknight 07ckknight * r47912 10Joker/ (10 files in 10 dirs): |
| 04:49.59 | CIA-14 | LibJoker*-1.0 - subtract 100000 from revisions, so that upgrades will happen properly when we restart at revision 1. |
| 04:49.59 | CIA-14 | - note: backwards incompatible |
| 04:50.19 | Totems | I need assistance with my button creation code (http://ace.pastey.net/73267) |
| 04:50.22 | Sole | I'm curious as to what major design differences Kael has planned for Ace3 |
| 04:50.51 | Sole | line 4, fix it |
| 04:51.02 | Totems | i reposted |
| 04:51.05 | SaladFork | .back |
| 04:51.14 | ckknight | oh, Totems |
| 04:51.15 | Totems | http://ace.pastey.net/73268 |
| 04:51.21 | CIA-14 | 03roartindon * r47913 10Assessment/Modules/Damage.lua: Assessment: Changed default dps title tag to show raid-wide dps |
| 04:51.26 | ckknight | line 2 needs an = |
| 04:51.45 | SaladFork | I miss anythign big? |
| 04:51.56 | ckknight | currently you're declaring the local and then later calling a function |
| 04:52.08 | ckknight | SaladFork, um, gonna rename Joker to Rock |
| 04:52.13 | SaladFork | That's boring |
| 04:52.15 | SaladFork | literally |
| 04:52.19 | ckknight | you're boring |
| 04:52.23 | ckknight | and it's the best thing I've heard |
| 04:52.25 | SaladFork | But I don't name things Rock |
| 04:52.29 | SaladFork | Oak was better than Rock |
| 04:52.33 | SaladFork | Oaks are powerful |
| 04:52.35 | SaladFork | Rocks are... boring |
| 04:52.37 | SaladFork | They're just rocks |
| 04:52.38 | ckknight | Rocks smash things. |
| 04:52.40 | SaladFork | literally actually |
| 04:52.48 | ckknight | and are also good for throwing |
| 04:52.52 | ckknight | and building houses on |
| 04:52.54 | SaladFork | Rocks just SIT THERE |
| 04:52.57 | SaladFork | Being boring |
| 04:52.59 | Recluse | rofl |
| 04:53.01 | SaladFork | And hard-headed |
| 04:53.05 | ckknight | but they're strong |
| 04:53.10 | ckknight | and made of stone |
| 04:53.11 | ckknight | solid. |
| 04:53.13 | ckknight | tough. |
| 04:53.14 | SaladFork | Because they dont do anything other than be hard and strong |
| 04:53.15 | ckknight | Ford. |
| 04:53.16 | SaladFork | that's it |
| 04:53.18 | SaladFork | They don't DO anything |
| 04:53.22 | Totems | I have a new version, I'd like to create a button, assign the properties (put it somewhere, add handlers) then return it |
| 04:53.24 | Totems | http://ace.pastey.net/73270 |
| 04:53.27 | SaladFork | "Joker" does everything |
| 04:53.28 | ckknight | they make good pets, SaladFork |
| 04:53.28 | Totems | like a button factory model |
| 04:53.30 | SaladFork | "Rocks" do nothing |
| 04:53.34 | SaladFork | Ckk - Because you don't have to do any shit with them |
| 04:53.42 | Sole | Totems: hang on I'm fixing up your pastey |
| 04:53.45 | ckknight | looks good, Totems |
| 04:53.59 | SaladFork | Totems - don't you have to give it a backdrop before it can be shown? |
| 04:54.00 | SaladFork | o_O |
| 04:54.13 | Totems | i have no idea, what's a backdrop and what are the choices to set it as |
| 04:54.20 | SaladFork | Backdrop is a fancy word for background |
| 04:54.25 | SaladFork | You have to give it a texture |
| 04:54.26 | SaladFork | SML makes this easy |
| 04:54.30 | SaladFork | just to |
| 04:54.36 | ckknight | um, complex |
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| 04:54.38 | Totems | is it a color, or do i have to reference a certain item in a library |
| 04:54.42 | ckknight | someone needs to get Totems a tutorial |
| 04:54.43 | orionshock | beer anyone? |
| 04:54.44 | SaladFork | Ckk - SML is so easy it's nuts |
| 04:54.50 | SaladFork | I didn't have to search/add textures or anything |
| 04:54.50 | Totems | :) yea |
| 04:54.52 | Sole | ~api SetPoint |
| 04:54.52 | purl | http://www.wowwiki.com/API_SetPoint |
| 04:54.55 | ckknight | orionshock, I could go for some beer |
| 04:54.56 | SaladFork | just added SML:Fetch() and used SML:List() |
| 04:55.00 | SaladFork | Totems - you need to use a texture |
| 04:55.03 | Xinhuan | nobody has really made any tutorial for secure buttons |
| 04:55.05 | SaladFork | You can tint that texture different colors though |
| 04:55.20 | Xinhuan | the only ones that exist were the ones that were stickied on the UI forum months ago |
| 04:55.21 | orionshock | lol i'd give you some but .. sadly only have hard liqor |
| 04:55.27 | Sole | Totems: dont listen to them |
| 04:55.53 | Sole | Totems: you can also inherit from ActionButtonTemplate or something to get the default action button visual properties |
| 04:56.05 | Sole | Totems: let me find that code somewhere |
| 04:56.07 | Totems | default sounds good |
| 04:56.25 | Totems | if i get this done can i upload the addon to ace and use wowaceupdater on it? that'd be hot |
| 04:56.29 | Sole | me and Wobin did it when we were messing around with splut |
| 04:56.34 | SaladFork | You'd need to request SVN access |
| 04:56.36 | SaladFork | But they rarely say no |
| 04:56.39 | ckknight | Totems, yep, you'd get an SVN account, put it on the trunk |
| 04:56.41 | SaladFork | GameTooltip:GetTexture() |
| 04:56.47 | SaladFork | I'm pretty sure |
| 04:57.04 | Kaelten | Ya, I have a back log of svn requests atm |
| 04:57.11 | Kaelten | but I'll get those sorted out in a few days |
| 04:57.13 | SaladFork | I got mine after about a 4 week wait |
| 04:57.14 | SaladFork | =D |
| 04:57.16 | Totems | button:SetPoint("BOTTOMLEFT", "UIParent", "BOTTOMLEFT", 100, 100); |
| 04:57.16 | Silowyi | does anyone know what the new point calcs are on the test server? |
| 04:57.20 | Kaelten | 4 week? |
| 04:57.23 | Kaelten | :S |
| 04:57.26 | Kaelten | are you sure? |
| 04:57.27 | Xinhuan | speaking of which, my ISP hasn't replied me yet on my query to them to add WEBDAV extensions to their squid proxy servers lol |
| 04:57.29 | SaladFork | Kael - I could look at the exact timestamp |
| 04:57.31 | SaladFork | let me check |
| 04:57.37 | Sole | Kaeltan: is the 'Description' heading meant to be misspelt in WAU2? |
| 04:57.41 | Xinhuan | even though their auto-reply was "we read all emails by the next working day" |
| 04:57.44 | Kaelten | I think ~1 week has been my longest wait |
| 04:57.50 | Totems | button:SetPoint("BOTTOMLEFT", 100, 100); |
| 04:57.51 | SaladFork | Mine started iwth "Sorry for the delay" |
| 04:57.52 | Kaelten | Sole: I doubt it |
| 04:58.27 | Xinhuan | Silowyi: new point calcs? |
| 04:58.28 | SaladFork | well, GMail froze FireFox |
| 04:58.30 | Totems | i've deduced that .. is concatenation |
| 04:58.30 | SaladFork | Give me asec |
| 04:58.31 | Kaelten | Xinhuan whats killing me is that up until recently the svn was behind a squid server and its never had anything special added |
| 04:58.39 | Silowyi | Xinhuan: for arena |
| 04:58.39 | Totems | "mymom"..variable.."says hi" |
| 04:58.55 | SaladFork | Totems - Only use it if you want to concat strings |
| 04:58.55 | Sole | yes thats concat |
| 04:59.01 | Xinhuan | the squid server was probably already configured |
| 04:59.03 | Xinhuan | properly |
| 04:59.03 | SaladFork | if you want to add variables, sformat() is more efficient |
| 04:59.07 | Totems | how do you convert from int to string |
| 04:59.07 | SaladFork | err |
| 04:59.11 | SaladFork | tostring() |
| 04:59.11 | Totems | string.parse(int) please oh please |
| 04:59.17 | Totems | that works |
| 04:59.26 | SaladFork | Kael - sorry, I was mistaken |
| 04:59.27 | SaladFork | Only 6 days |
| 04:59.28 | SaladFork | Heh |
| 04:59.31 | ckknight | Totems, ("My mom, %s, says hi"):format("Linda") |
| 04:59.35 | SaladFork | My sense of time is totally skewed during the summer |
| 04:59.41 | ckknight | Totems, tonumber("10") == 10 |
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| 04:59.51 | Kaelten | tonumber(10) == 10 too |
| 04:59.52 | ckknight | Totems, tostring(10) == "10" |
| 04:59.57 | SaladFork | Totems - you can just do "My name is ".."Totems." |
| 05:00.01 | Kaelten | tonumber("BOB") == nil |
| 05:00.08 | ckknight | Totems, I really suggest checking out http://www.lua.org/pil |
| 05:00.35 | Totems | got it |
| 05:00.35 | Kaelten | Totems: Pil and Welcome home are both good |
| 05:00.35 | SaladFork | but if you want to say your age, it's more efficient to do sformat("%s%d%s", "I am ", varAge, " years old.") |
| 05:00.45 | SaladFork | It is sformat() isn't it? |
| 05:00.49 | Totems | bah i just graduated, start first read later :) |
| 05:01.00 | Xinhuan | SaladFork: i don't think its appropriate to advice about code efficiency for now ;p |
| 05:01.06 | Antiarc | Actually, sprintf is a whole lot slower than straight string concats, SaladFork |
| 05:01.07 | SaladFork | Totems - I was similar to you, but I recommend oyu at least read through WelcomeHome |
| 05:01.13 | Antiarc | Like, several orders of magnitude :P |
| 05:01.21 | SaladFork | Anti - I've heard string concats are slower if you include ints with strings |
| 05:01.22 | SaladFork | let me look it up |
| 05:01.38 | Antiarc | SaladFork: I benchmarked it a while back. sprintf is slooooow :P |
| 05:01.38 | SaladFork | Xin - Start early and your habits form correclty, =) |
| 05:01.45 | Totems | ActionButtonTemplate > SecureButtonTemplate ? |
| 05:01.54 | Xinhuan | Totems: no |
| 05:01.59 | ckknight | Totems, they do different things |
| 05:02.03 | ckknight | Totems, inherit from them both |
| 05:02.07 | Totems | I want my button to work in combat, and exhibit default skin |
| 05:02.12 | Xinhuan | ActionButtonTemplate is just a template describing how a button looks |
| 05:02.14 | Sole | Totems: http://ace.pastey.net/73273 |
| 05:02.31 | Sole | pretty sure SecureActionButtonTemplate is the one he wants |
| 05:02.44 | Sole | worked for me and wob |
| 05:02.50 | Xinhuan | inherit from both |
| 05:02.51 | Kaelten | damn I wish putty had a transparency mode |
| 05:03.00 | Sole | on an unfortunately failed project :( |
| 05:03.10 | SaladFork | Totems - I'm surprised you're starting off with frames, XD |
| 05:03.38 | Xinhuan | securetemplates is one of the hardest stuff to do in wow T_T |
| 05:04.01 | Sole | I still havent wrapped my head around the state header crap |
| 05:04.25 | orionshock | it's as if wow-dev said -"I Hates you all addon authors" w/ secure frames :P |
| 05:04.33 | Sole | its like the documentation about that stuff was put through an encryptor before it was posted |
| 05:04.36 | SaladFork | Btw Totems |
| 05:04.38 | Xinhuan | yah, secure templates are horribly inefficient too |
| 05:04.42 | SaladFork | Don't try doing a :SetText on a frame, it won't work |
| 05:04.45 | Xinhuan | especially the code |
| 05:04.50 | Totems | http://ace.pastey.net/73274 |
| 05:04.52 | SaladFork | You have to :CreateFontString() first |
| 05:05.07 | SaladFork | Okay |
| 05:05.21 | orionshock | ya if ur doing it all in lua |
| 05:05.31 | Totems | SaladFork: I have to do button:CreateFontString before button:SetText? |
| 05:05.47 | SaladFork | Totems - Think of a frame as a poster board |
| 05:05.50 | Totems | Xinhuan: I just want to make a clickable button in combat |
| 05:05.50 | SaladFork | You can put stuff on it |
| 05:05.52 | SaladFork | And attach stuff to it |
| 05:06.03 | SaladFork | But it itself is just a board |
| 05:06.07 | SaladFork | You can color it and give it a border |
| 05:06.12 | SaladFork | But you can't "set text" for a poster board |
| 05:06.15 | SaladFork | You have to put text on it two |
| 05:06.21 | SaladFork | Start with just getting a frame showing |
| 05:06.26 | SaladFork | And give it a texture/color |
| 05:06.28 | SaladFork | Then add text, =) |
| 05:06.31 | Totems | I understand, how do you suggest i make a floatable scalable combat button |
| 05:06.45 | SaladFork | floatable meaning movable? |
| 05:06.48 | Xinhuan | Totems: its fairly difficult to explain what to do, because you haven't grasped the basics of LUA programming yet |
| 05:06.49 | SaladFork | Frame:IsMovable(true); |
| 05:07.08 | Totems | Yes, you said not to use a frame, how would you suggest I make a combat button? |
| 05:07.13 | SaladFork | Nonono |
| 05:07.15 | Xinhuan | read the pil first - http://www.lua.org/pil |
| 05:07.16 | SaladFork | You want to use a frame |
| 05:07.20 | SaladFork | I'm just saying you can't :SetText() a frame |
| 05:07.24 | Totems | Xinhuan, it looks like javascript :) |
| 05:07.31 | SaladFork | Totems - it's not in the least, >.< |
| 05:07.36 | SaladFork | Well, maybe a bit |
| 05:07.36 | Xinhuan | but it is VERY different from javascript |
| 05:07.39 | Totems | SaladFork: I was under the impression i created a button, and buttons have text :( |
| 05:07.45 | SaladFork | Totems - you created a frame |
| 05:07.51 | SaladFork | with "locla button = CreateFrame(" |
| 05:07.55 | SaladFork | You now can put stuff on that frame |
| 05:07.56 | SaladFork | ie: text |
| 05:07.59 | Xinhuan | Totems: that is not true - you have to create every element of the button itself |
| 05:08.00 | Totems | the template i used? |
| 05:08.10 | Xinhuan | when you create the button, you merely told LUA, i want to create a button |
| 05:08.29 | Xinhuan | but it doesn't know the height, width, position, and many other things about it yet |
| 05:08.37 | ckknight | ~rock |
| 05:08.38 | purl | paper, I win. |
| 05:08.38 | Totems | Yes, i understand |
| 05:08.45 | ckknight | ~literal rock |
| 05:08.46 | purl | "rock" is "<reply>rock, play again. || <reply>paper, I win. || <reply>scissors, you win." |
| 05:08.46 | SaladFork | Totems - So far all you've told the gam is that you want a frame |
| 05:08.54 | ckknight | hrm. |
| 05:08.58 | ckknight | gonna overwrite that |
| 05:09.05 | SaladFork | Then you gave it a width and a height |
| 05:09.10 | SaladFork | and attacked it to the top left of your UI |
| 05:09.12 | SaladFork | attached* |
| 05:09.16 | SaladFork | Now let's make it visible |
| 05:09.27 | Totems | hold on i know this one |
| 05:09.29 | Xinhuan | and that is merely a button - to display something in that button, you will need to create textures and fontstrings as children of that button, and :SetTexture and :SetText on those objects |
| 05:09.41 | Totems | button:Show() |
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| 05:10.06 | SaladFork | Technically yes |
| 05:10.09 | SaladFork | That's logical |
| 05:10.14 | SaladFork | But a frame is by default shown when you use :CreateFrame() |
| 05:10.16 | SaladFork | But what you have |
| 05:10.18 | SaladFork | is a floating piece of nothing |
| 05:10.21 | SaladFork | It doesn't have any content |
| 05:10.26 | SaladFork | No color, no background |
| 05:10.33 | Totems | ok I want it to have the image that the totem has if you were a shaman |
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| 05:10.42 | SaladFork | Okay, what totem would you like? |
| 05:10.48 | Totems | Mana Tide |
| 05:11.05 | Mecdemort | anyone know how to move the oRA2 player target frames? they're not locked but no combination of keys i can find will move them |
| 05:11.13 | Totems | Wow.Textures("Shaman")("Mana Tide") please oh please |
| 05:11.16 | SaladFork | Not quite |
| 05:11.19 | SaladFork | You'll have to look it up |
| 05:11.24 | Recluse | naming addons can be difficult at times |
| 05:11.26 | Kaelten | bah, this is bullshit |
| 05:11.26 | SaladFork | Start here: |
| 05:11.27 | SaladFork | http://www.wowwiki.com/Category:WoW_Icons |
| 05:11.33 | SaladFork | Totems - go to that URL |
| 05:11.37 | Totems | done |
| 05:11.40 | SaladFork | And click "Spell" |
| 05:11.43 | Kaelten | I Can't find a good ssh for windows that supports transparency |
| 05:12.02 | SaladFork | Now go to Nature |
| 05:12.03 | *** join/#wowace Azure (i=Azurewra@i577BCDF2.versanet.de) |
| 05:12.22 | SaladFork | When you find it, click on the icon |
| 05:13.25 | SaladFork | IIRC, it would be Spell_Nature_ManaRegenTotem.png |
| 05:14.01 | Totems | what does IIRC stand for? I have the image so do i put Textures("Spell_Nat....") |
| 05:14.07 | SaladFork | If I recall correctly |
| 05:14.13 | SaladFork | Kind of, it's a bit more complicated |
| 05:14.20 | SaladFork | You have to give it the path to the texture |
| 05:14.26 | SaladFork | For built-in icons |
| 05:14.33 | SaladFork | It's Interface\Icons\whatever |
| 05:14.35 | SaladFork | So you need |
| 05:14.44 | SaladFork | [[Interface\Icons\Spell_Nature_ManaRegenTotem.png]] |
| 05:14.59 | Totems | button:SetTexture("[[Interface\Icons\Spell_Nature_ManaRegenTotem.png]]") |
| 05:15.05 | SaladFork | Heh |
| 05:15.10 | SaladFork | I skipped a step |
| 05:15.16 | SaladFork | We're going to have to create a texture first |
| 05:15.19 | Totems | texture = Load([[Interface\Icons\Spell_Nature_ManaRegenTotem.png]]) |
| 05:15.24 | SaladFork | No |
| 05:15.33 | Totems | Just throwing out ideas :) trying to help |
| 05:15.46 | orionshock | SaladFork: u drunk or something? |
| 05:15.46 | SaladFork | texture = button:CreateTexture("NAME","LAYER") |
| 05:15.51 | SaladFork | Orion - Just tired, why? |
| 05:16.05 | orionshock | it sounds like it by the way ur typing :D |
| 05:16.08 | SaladFork | Heh |
| 05:16.44 | Totems | button:CreateTexture("ManaTide", "background") |
| 05:16.45 | SaladFork | I'm really pissed at myself becuase I just started textures yesterday |
| 05:16.48 | SaladFork | and had a REALLLLY basic one |
| 05:16.53 | SaladFork | totems - sure |
| 05:17.00 | SaladFork | But I replaced it with a more advanced one with textures and fontstrings |
| 05:17.00 | SaladFork | =( |
| 05:17.16 | Xinhuan | tsk tsk |
| 05:17.39 | SaladFork | It was a really good basic one too, =( |
| 05:17.44 | Totems | button:CreateTexture(TotemType, "background") |
| 05:17.47 | SaladFork | Totems |
| 05:17.53 | Totems | ok now what, button:SetTexture(texture) |
| 05:17.55 | SaladFork | texture = button:CreateTexture("NAME","LAYER") |
| 05:17.59 | SaladFork | then |
| 05:18.04 | SaladFork | texture:SetTexture(), texture:SetPoint() |
| 05:18.26 | SaladFork | Waitwaitawit |
| 05:18.27 | SaladFork | Totem, stop |
| 05:18.28 | Totems | now that's odd, we have to set the texture, we haven't specified the path to the image |
| 05:18.30 | SaladFork | I remember what I did yesterday |
| 05:18.39 | SaladFork | Remove all the texture stuff I just told you for a sec |
| 05:18.48 | SaladFork | So go back to http://ace.pastey.net/73274 |
| 05:19.01 | Totems | Let me back up a little bit, I just want to glow/highlight/animate/darken an already existing button, is this easier than creating my own buttons? |
| 05:19.15 | SaladFork | Frames are still good to learn, =P |
| 05:19.20 | SaladFork | And I got an easy solution for you |
| 05:19.26 | SaladFork | We just add 1 (or 2) more lines |
| 05:19.27 | Totems | ok |
| 05:19.28 | SaladFork | And you can see your frame |
| 05:19.30 | Kaelten | Recluse: check yer mail :PO |
| 05:19.39 | SaladFork | BTW, you can just /rl to reload your UI and it will update with your file changes |
| 05:19.55 | SaladFork | Totems - pastey what you have right now |
| 05:19.56 | Totems | i thought you had to exit wow to show file changes |
| 05:19.57 | Recluse | FTW! ty, Kae |
| 05:20.25 | SaladFork | Kaeltan - do you recommend SVN For Idiots or SVN For Beginners? |
| 05:20.26 | Totems | http://ace.pastey.net/73275 |
| 05:20.33 | SaladFork | Totems - Nope, just a reload ui |
| 05:20.38 | Totems | I use Subversion or Tortoise SVN |
| 05:20.42 | SaladFork | Totems - okay, remove line 10 and 11 for now |
| 05:21.02 | SaladFork | and if you could comment out 4 and 5, it would make things easier. Let's make the frame first, then worry about adding stuff (and macros) to it |
| 05:21.04 | Recluse | i'm partial to RapidSVN |
| 05:21.05 | Totems | sorry i was not expecting line 11 to work, it was temporary |
| 05:21.11 | SaladFork | hehe |
| 05:21.12 | SaladFork | np |
| 05:21.17 | SaladFork | Just trying to get us on the same page |
| 05:21.24 | SaladFork | So lines 10 and 11 are gone, and 4/5 are commented out |
| 05:21.27 | SaladFork | Good so far? |
| 05:21.29 | Totems | -- is a comment |
| 05:21.33 | SaladFork | yes |
| 05:21.34 | Totems | yes |
| 05:21.38 | SaladFork | Okay |
| 05:21.38 | SaladFork | Now |
| 05:21.39 | SaladFork | add |
| 05:21.55 | SaladFork | button:SetBackdrop(GameTooltip:GetBackdrop()) |
| 05:22.12 | Totems | done |
| 05:22.18 | SaladFork | And let's give it a red border |
| 05:22.24 | Totems | great |
| 05:22.29 | Totems | red for inactive, green for hit me |
| 05:22.30 | SaladFork | BTW |
| 05:22.31 | SaladFork | http://www.wowwiki.com/Widget_API |
| 05:22.33 | SaladFork | is your best friend |
| 05:22.41 | SaladFork | okay |
| 05:22.43 | SaladFork | do |
| 05:22.52 | SaladFork | button:SetBackdropBorderColor(1, 0, 0) |
| 05:22.57 | SaladFork | and then reload your UI |
| 05:23.11 | SaladFork | You should have a 100 by 100 white-ish gray-ish box in your top left with a red border |
| 05:23.24 | Totems | i have to comment out some other test functions or i'll error |
| 05:23.25 | Totems | hold on |
| 05:23.34 | SaladFork | Hmm |
| 05:23.44 | SaladFork | Is there a Frames tutorial on WowAce? |
| 05:23.46 | SaladFork | I may write one |
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| 05:23.50 | SaladFork | I had a lot of trouble learning it myself |
| 05:23.52 | SaladFork | /shrug |
| 05:24.00 | Xinhuan | there's one on wowwiki |
| 05:24.08 | Totems | there's a hello world one |
| 05:24.10 | SaladFork | I couldn't find it in HowTos |
| 05:24.10 | Totems | i did it |
| 05:24.18 | Xinhuan | its there somewhere |
| 05:24.21 | Totems | wait, can you have spaces in button names |
| 05:24.27 | SaladFork | Mmk, I'll check a bit later |
| 05:24.30 | Totems | CreateFrame("Button", "Button"..TotemType, |
| 05:24.31 | SaladFork | Totems - no, it's a variable |
| 05:24.36 | Xinhuan | but that's a Frame tutorial, not a button tutorial ;p |
| 05:24.37 | SaladFork | And uh |
| 05:24.39 | Totems | TotemType = "Earthbind Totem" |
| 05:24.58 | SaladFork | okay |
| 05:25.07 | Totems | it's ok? ok |
| 05:25.07 | SaladFork | Xin - the first step in making a button is making a frame |
| 05:25.28 | SaladFork | Totems - as long as you have button = CreateFrame(..... |
| 05:25.30 | Xinhuan | although they are the same thing, i usually consider them as different things |
| 05:25.35 | SaladFork | Xin - Yep |
| 05:25.42 | Xinhuan | since a button is usually for clicking, and a frame just for displaying |
| 05:25.43 | SaladFork | But you use frames in any addon where you have to draw something on the screen |
| 05:25.45 | SaladFork | So it's important to know |
| 05:25.56 | Totems | omg |
| 05:25.59 | SaladFork | Totems - ? |
| 05:25.59 | Totems | its so HOOOTTTTT |
| 05:26.02 | SaladFork | You see it? |
| 05:26.04 | SaladFork | 100x100 with a red border? |
| 05:26.05 | Totems | that red button rocks my socks |
| 05:26.20 | Totems | OMG it works, i can click it, it animates when i go over it |
| 05:26.23 | Totems | its a real button |
| 05:26.25 | SaladFork | Haha |
| 05:26.28 | SaladFork | Okay |
| 05:26.32 | Totems | this is nice, 3 years playing wow and my first button |
| 05:26.32 | SaladFork | Is it draggable? |
| 05:26.43 | SaladFork | Totems - I was just as excited last night when I made a draggable frame for the first time ever |
| 05:26.44 | Totems | no |
| 05:26.52 | SaladFork | Totems - this is going ot be hard and you may not understand it |
| 05:26.54 | SaladFork | But just stick with me |
| 05:26.55 | SaladFork | add |
| 05:26.59 | SaladFork | button:IsMovable(true) |
| 05:27.01 | Totems | this button is perfect size too, 100x100 is good for pvp |
| 05:27.03 | SaladFork | and button:EnableMouse(true); |
| 05:27.10 | ckknight | :SetMovable(true) |
| 05:27.13 | SaladFork | Crap |
| 05:27.15 | SaladFork | Thanks ck |
| 05:27.18 | SaladFork | IsMovable() is the check |
| 05:27.21 | Xinhuan | :EnableMouse is redundant |
| 05:27.27 | SaladFork | Xin - good to have just in case |
| 05:27.29 | ckknight | tada, fears put to rest |
| 05:27.31 | ckknight | http://wowace.com/wiki/Joker#I.27m_scared_Ckknight_is_going_to_get_hit_by_a_bus_and_no_one_will_be_able_to_maintain_Joker |
| 05:27.32 | Xinhuan | because a securebutton is already mouseenabled |
| 05:27.34 | SaladFork | It's as redundant as button:show() |
| 05:27.46 | SaladFork | HOLY SHIT |
| 05:27.49 | Totems | it didnt work |
| 05:27.55 | SaladFork | An Lua script ACTUALLY being properly commented? |
| 05:27.57 | SaladFork | *gasp* |
| 05:27.58 | Totems | movable didnt work, i typed /rl and it didnt work |
| 05:28.06 | ckknight | SaladFork, as good as I could |
| 05:28.07 | SaladFork | Totems - paste your whole script |
| 05:28.10 | SaladFork | let's see if something else overrode it |
| 05:28.16 | SaladFork | Ck - I'm a compulsive code commentor |
| 05:28.19 | SaladFork | I comment nearly every line |
| 05:28.21 | SaladFork | most lines get 2-3 comments |
| 05:28.23 | ckknight | oh, not me |
| 05:28.23 | Xinhuan | that's cos the command only tells LUA that the button is movable, you don't actually have any code that moves it yet |
| 05:28.27 | ckknight | I comment concepts, hard places |
| 05:28.29 | Xinhuan | you still have to write that yourself |
| 05:28.33 | SaladFork | Ck - mostly because I look back at code later and think "WTF was I thinking?!" |
| 05:28.34 | Totems | http://ace.pastey.net/73277 |
| 05:28.34 | ckknight | but document everything |
| 05:28.53 | SaladFork | Xin |
| 05:28.54 | Gngsk | getting hit by a bus is the way to go |
| 05:28.58 | SaladFork | You get two choices here |
| 05:29.07 | SaladFork | We can use OnMouseDown/OnMouseUp or OnDragStart/OnDragStop |
| 05:29.09 | SaladFork | Basically |
| 05:29.16 | Xinhuan | there is actually a 3rd option salad ;p |
| 05:29.17 | SaladFork | The first will start dragging the second you hold the mouse button down |
| 05:29.23 | SaladFork | Xin - sssh, focus |
| 05:29.23 | Xinhuan | that uses neither |
| 05:29.40 | SaladFork | The second will only start dragging if you hold your mouse button down and move more than 5px |
| 05:29.46 | SaladFork | It's "locked" until you move it more than a tiny bit |
| 05:29.53 | SaladFork | To make sure you don't accidently move it |
| 05:29.58 | SaladFork | It's up to you, both will work |
| 05:30.11 | Totems | are you talking to me? |
| 05:30.26 | SaladFork | Yes |
| 05:30.31 | Kaelten | ok, I've sent all requests |
| 05:30.31 | SaladFork | We're making it movable, are we not? |
| 05:30.39 | Totems | I like the way ArenaMaster does it, it will move if you hold alt while dragging |
| 05:30.42 | Kaelten | if someone is still missing thats already requested |
| 05:30.43 | Totems | unless that's difficult |
| 05:30.45 | Kaelten | poke me |
| 05:30.46 | SaladFork | Totems - we can do that |
| 05:30.49 | SaladFork | It's just a simple conditional |
| 05:30.53 | Xinhuan | Kaelten: do svn accounts expire after say a period of time of non-usage? |
| 05:31.16 | Kaelten | not intentionally |
| 05:31.18 | Kaelten | :) |
| 05:31.25 | Kaelten | there have been a few instances where thigns messed up |
| 05:31.27 | SaladFork | I believe IsAltKeyDown() will work |
| 05:31.37 | Kaelten | we had a corruption on some of the passwords several months back |
| 05:31.50 | Xinhuan | how can i change my password btw |
| 05:32.05 | Totems | whole script: http://ace.pastey.net/73277 |
| 05:32.20 | SaladFork | Totems - we're going to add two lines |
| 05:32.37 | SaladFork | Now I use semicolons |
| 05:32.38 | SaladFork | You don't have to |
| 05:32.41 | SaladFork | They're not required |
| 05:32.50 | SaladFork | Kinda like javascript |
| 05:32.55 | SaladFork | I prefer to |
| 05:33.08 | SaladFork | Here are the two lines you'll add: |
| 05:33.09 | SaladFork | F:SetScript("OnDragStart", function() if IsAltKeyDown() then button:StartMoving(); end; end ); |
| 05:33.09 | SaladFork | F:SetScript("OnDragStop", function() if IsAltKeyDown() then button:StopMovingOrSizing(); end; end ); |
| 05:33.11 | SaladFork | err |
| 05:33.17 | SaladFork | that would be button:SetScript() |
| 05:33.17 | Totems | javascript requires semicolons, it executes your line twice by adding a semicolon if there is an error |
| 05:33.19 | SaladFork | F being Frame |
| 05:33.50 | SaladFork | Adding those two should theoretically do it |
| 05:34.12 | Xinhuan | not exactly salad, because clicking the button while trying to move it will actually "click" the button |
| 05:34.26 | SaladFork | Xin - We can get to that later with if not IsAltKeyDown() |
| 05:34.31 | SaladFork | Oh |
| 05:34.33 | SaladFork | He already has a click event? |
| 05:34.35 | Xinhuan | problem is it is a securebutton |
| 05:34.42 | Xinhuan | securebutton's onclick event cannot be overriden |
| 05:34.47 | Xinhuan | or it is no longer secure |
| 05:35.00 | Xinhuan | :) |
| 05:35.09 | Totems | can i assign a predefined macro to the button? |
| 05:35.13 | Totems | i've already made? |
| 05:35.17 | SaladFork | Well, he can always change "Button" in :CreateFrame() to "Frame" to test it out |
| 05:35.28 | SaladFork | Totems - Yep |
| 05:35.30 | orionshock | hell you can assign a dynamic macro... sorta |
| 05:35.37 | Totems | the moving script isnt working, i'll pastey |
| 05:35.59 | SaladFork | As Xin said, it's possible setting your frametype to button made it so clicking on it will click the button, and not trigger a trag |
| 05:36.02 | Totems | http://ace.pastey.net/73278 |
| 05:36.09 | Xinhuan | its easier to have a frame parent the 5 buttons he wants, then have the moving code attached to the parent frame so it drags all 5 buttons |
| 05:36.26 | Totems | ok Xin that's what i want, make it so :) |
| 05:36.40 | SaladFork | Totems - okay, this is going to be your overall frame then |
| 05:36.42 | SaladFork | We'll add buttons TO this frame |
| 05:36.50 | SaladFork | And when you move this frame, all the attached buttons will move with it |
| 05:37.03 | SaladFork | So change line 2 so the first argument is "Frame" |
| 05:37.04 | Totems | function CreateButton(parent, TotemType) |
| 05:37.25 | SaladFork | Let's make this the parent frame, =P |
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| 05:40.01 | Guillotine | anybody know if theres a working version of WAU for vista? |
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| 05:40.41 | Totems | SaladFork: I am confused |
| 05:40.44 | SaladFork | Totems - about? |
| 05:40.59 | Totems | local button = CreateFrame("Button", "Button"..TotemType, this, "ActionButtonTemplate") |
| 05:41.17 | SaladFork | uh, 'kay? |
| 05:41.47 | Totems | wait, my gf came in talking and i didnt read everything |
| 05:41.57 | Totems | i missed "the first argument is "Frame"" |
| 05:42.19 | Guillotine | first argument is type of frame, second is name, third is parent, last is inherited |
| 05:42.20 | Totems | local button = CreateFrame("Frame", "Button"..TotemType, UIParent, "ActionButtonTemplate") |
| 05:42.35 | SaladFork | Hmmm, not quite |
| 05:42.37 | Sole | wikis are your friend |
| 05:42.39 | SaladFork | Let's try |
| 05:43.01 | Recluse | Guillotine: WAU works if you right-click "Run as Admin" from the installer for me on vista |
| 05:43.07 | SaladFork | local button = CreateFrame("Frame", ButtonFrame, UIParent) |
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| 05:43.28 | Guillotine | Recluse: what installer? I'm just doing it from the webpage like it told me to :( maybe I'll just log onto admin and try it |
| 05:43.50 | SaladFork | errr |
| 05:43.52 | SaladFork | sorry Totems |
| 05:43.54 | SaladFork | Make that |
| 05:44.02 | SaladFork | local buttonframe = CreateFrame("Frame", "ButtonFrame", UIParent) |
| 05:44.44 | Totems | http://www.smyers.net/buttons.htm |
| 05:45.49 | SaladFork | Yeah, we could do that |
| 05:45.54 | SaladFork | See the box in the background? |
| 05:45.56 | SaladFork | That's what we're making now |
| 05:45.59 | Totems | yes, i understand |
| 05:46.06 | Totems | i have changed the signature of my function |
| 05:46.12 | Totems | function CreateButton(parent, TotemType) |
| 05:46.25 | Totems | function CreateButton(parent, TotemType) |
| 05:46.27 | Totems | local button = CreateFrame("Frame", "Button"..TotemType, parent, "ActionButtonTemplate") |
| 05:46.38 | SaladFork | Change the name |
| 05:46.44 | SaladFork | "Button"..TotemType doesn't make sense anymore |
| 05:46.48 | SaladFork | And change parent to just UIPraent |
| 05:46.50 | Totems | of the parent argument or the function |
| 05:46.52 | SaladFork | and remove the last argument |
| 05:46.56 | Totems | ok |
| 05:47.01 | SaladFork | UIParent* |
| 05:47.35 | Totems | function CreateButton(parent) |
| 05:47.36 | Totems | local button = CreateFrame("Frame", "ButtonName", UIParent) |
| 05:48.41 | Totems | i was confused |
| 05:48.45 | Totems | i am trying to do two things |
| 05:48.52 | Totems | You and i are on different steps |
| 05:49.06 | SaladFork | Heh |
| 05:49.09 | Totems | I am not currently creating the parent frame, i'm creating the button |
| 05:49.12 | SaladFork | Ohhhh |
| 05:49.19 | SaladFork | I logically started with the parent frame |
| 05:49.24 | SaladFork | So we actually have somwhere to PUT the button |
| 05:49.26 | Totems | I am passing in the parent frame, because i know its already created in a parent function |
| 05:49.37 | Totems | pretend its been made already and is passed in as "parent" |
| 05:50.11 | Totems | we can work on creating the parent frame, i'll link in what i have |
| 05:50.25 | Totems | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:50.27 | Totems | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:50.29 | Totems | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:50.44 | Totems | sorry i moved ahead |
| 05:50.58 | SaladFork | Okay, you've lost me |
| 05:51.03 | orionshock | lol |
| 05:51.06 | Totems | btw, ChatZilla is requiring me to hit CTRL+Enter to send messages all of a sudden |
| 05:51.18 | Totems | function DruidsAgainstTotems:OnEnable() |
| 05:51.19 | Totems | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:51.21 | Totems | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:51.22 | Totems | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:51.24 | orionshock | click the up arrow next to the chat box |
| 05:51.24 | Totems | end |
| 05:51.33 | Totems | thank you |
| 05:52.06 | orionshock | your /n welcome |
| 05:52.09 | Totems | Sorry SaladFork, i've created the parent frame with the first line, i haven't set any properties yet on it |
| 05:52.16 | orionshock | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:52.24 | *** join/#wowace ven (n=ven@i59F55AF9.versanet.de) |
| 05:52.27 | Totems | i know what you mean though :) |
| 05:52.48 | Totems | lol did i lose you SaladFork |
| 05:52.55 | SaladFork | Give me a sec, trying to multitask |
| 05:53.06 | SaladFork | friend asked for a screenshot of my addon so I'm taking some |
| 05:53.29 | Totems | that's fine, i'll work on a new pastey |
| 05:54.08 | ckknight | orionshock, what's it supposed to do? |
| 05:54.16 | Totems | new line |
| 05:54.24 | ckknight | no, \n is newline, /n is just slash-n |
| 05:54.28 | orionshock | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:54.34 | SaladFork | \0 |
| 05:54.35 | SaladFork | oh crap |
| 05:54.37 | orionshock | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:54.39 | ckknight | yep |
| 05:54.41 | orionshock | still dosn't work |
| 05:54.46 | SaladFork | Orion - IRC is text based |
| 05:54.47 | Totems | first \n second |
| 05:54.48 | SaladFork | >.< |
| 05:54.57 | ckknight | fancy \n pants |
| 05:55.06 | CIA-14 | 03ckknight 07ckknight * r47914 10Joker/ (66 files in 22 dirs): Joker - rename to Rock. Will be moving to trunk soon. |
| 05:55.34 | orionshock | LibRock... do we get to smoke it too? |
| 05:55.45 | ckknight | Dude... wait, what? |
| 05:59.21 | orionshock | lol |
| 05:59.21 | Totems | ~paper |
| 05:59.21 | purl | paper, play again. |
| 05:59.21 | Totems | ~ Paper |
| 05:59.22 | purl | paper, play again. |
| 05:59.22 | Totems | ~Paper |
| 05:59.23 | purl | rock, you win. |
| 05:59.23 | Totems | ~ paper |
| 05:59.23 | purl | rock, you win. |
| 05:59.23 | ckknight | stop. |
| 05:59.23 | Totems | so close, yet so far |
| 05:59.23 | SaladFork | ~rock |
| 05:59.24 | purl | scissors, you win. |
| 05:59.24 | SaladFork | damn. |
| 05:59.24 | ckknight | purl's down |
| 05:59.24 | SaladFork | ORLY? |
| 05:59.24 | orionshock | ~seen orionshock |
| 05:59.26 | purl | orionshock is currently on #wowace (3h 46m 25s). Has said a total of 23 messages. Is idling for 2s, last said: '~seen orionshock'. |
| 05:59.27 | orionshock | :( |
| 05:59.27 | SaladFork | At least we have cladbot and ThraeBot |
| 05:59.29 | Recluse | lol |
| 05:59.39 | SaladFork | Woah. |
| 05:59.45 | Kaelten | ~seen kaelten |
| 05:59.46 | purl | kaelten is currently on #wowi-lounge (23h 33m 52s) #wowace (23h 33m 52s). Has said a total of 90 messages. Is idling for 2s, last said: '~seen kaelten'. |
| 05:59.50 | Xinhuan | i have bots too, its merely disabled in this channel |
| 05:59.58 | Xinhuan | because thraebot duplicates what i do |
| 06:00.03 | Totems | pastey is down? |
| 06:00.08 | ckknight | purl's a spammer |
| 06:00.10 | Totems | just slow |
| 06:00.18 | Totems | SaladFork: http://ace.pastey.net/73279 |
| 06:00.33 | SaladFork | Give me a sec Totems |
| 06:00.37 | SaladFork | taking screenies for my friend |
| 06:03.33 | Totems | Should i be doing this in XML |
| 06:03.35 | Totems | instead of LUA |
| 06:03.40 | Totems | advantage? disadvantage? |
| 06:03.42 | orionshock | u can |
| 06:03.52 | *** join/#wowace mee (n=electric@ns.rudholm.com) |
| 06:04.09 | ckknight | Totems, I prefer lua |
| 06:04.13 | ckknight | terser |
| 06:04.14 | Totems | reasons? |
| 06:04.16 | Totems | oh |
| 06:04.25 | ckknight | easier to comprehend for me |
| 06:04.33 | ckknight | easier to tell when something is broken as well |
| 06:04.47 | Totems | ok, convinced |
| 06:06.28 | ckknight | it's really up to you, though |
| 06:06.40 | Totems | Is anyone familiar with this code |
| 06:06.41 | Totems | frame:SetAttribute("type1", "macro") |
| 06:06.43 | Totems | frame:SetAttribute("macro1", 1) |
| 06:06.50 | ckknight | yes |
| 06:06.52 | Totems | why is there a 1 in type1 |
| 06:07.04 | ckknight | 1 means left click |
| 06:07.06 | Sole | rofl I love vent |
| 06:07.07 | ckknight | 2 means right |
| 06:07.10 | ckknight | 3 means middle |
| 06:07.15 | Totems | ok i understand |
| 06:07.16 | ckknight | there's also 4 and 5 |
| 06:07.28 | Totems | now, how do i specify a predefined user made macro |
| 06:07.44 | orionshock | take a look at gladiator |
| 06:07.48 | ckknight | frame:SetAttribute("macrotext1", "/dance") |
| 06:07.49 | Totems | frame:SetAttribute("macro1", "Earthbind Macro Name") |
| 06:07.59 | Totems | i dont want to specify the actual text, do i have to do that? |
| 06:07.59 | ckknight | either work |
| 06:08.07 | ckknight | no, your way works |
| 06:08.22 | Totems | can i span multiple lines? for example: |
| 06:08.36 | Totems | frame:SetAttribute("type1", "macro") |
| 06:08.38 | Totems | frame:SetAttribute("macro1", "/dance |
| 06:08.39 | Totems | /wave |
| 06:08.40 | Totems | /sit |
| 06:08.42 | Totems | ") |
| 06:09.41 | orionshock | use \n |
| 06:09.48 | Gngsk | frame:SetAttribute("macro1", "/dance\n/wave\n/sit") |
| 06:09.53 | Sole | vent: "hey whats the mats for adepts?" "wtf I make them for you like every day" "Im old" "did you get a new mic or something coz you sound like a fag" "your mums a fag" "I dont give a fuck my mums a whore" |
| 06:09.53 | orionshock | ya, |
| 06:09.57 | Totems | oh that's bogus |
| 06:10.02 | Sole | such intelligent conversation I'm listening to |
| 06:10.12 | *** join/#wowace evl (n=fuckoff@unaffiliated/evl) |
| 06:11.24 | Totems | ok general question, i want to /target (name) without changing the current target |
| 06:11.27 | Totems | i know you can /focus |
| 06:11.36 | Totems | but i prefer to not change the users focus |
| 06:11.49 | Totems | is there a way in LUA to local oldUser = getCurrentTarget() |
| 06:11.57 | orionshock | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:12.21 | Sole | its Lua not LUA |
| 06:12.26 | orionshock | as long as the attribs are not changed in combat it's ok |
| 06:12.38 | Totems | i realize you can do that, perhaps that is what i'd like to do. but i'd rather it not crash if the target is not found anymore (they spam it too many times) |
| 06:12.56 | Totems | Sole: tomato tomato |
| 06:13.04 | Sole | no |
| 06:13.06 | orionshock | can't do that, a macro is a macro , no conditionals |
| 06:13.06 | Totems | wait... not as clear once typed :) |
| 06:13.08 | Sole | that would be Tomato TOMATO |
| 06:13.25 | CIA-14 | 03ckknight 07ckknight * r47915 10Joker/ (20 files in 10 dirs): Rock - add lib.xml to all libraries. |
| 06:13.34 | Totems | orionshock: i just want it to NOT show a popup error that you have to click OK on |
| 06:13.36 | ckknight | potatoes |
| 06:13.43 | ckknight | boil em, mash em, stick em in a stew |
| 06:13.50 | Sole | a macro has conditionals of sort |
| 06:13.59 | Sole | [flyable][combat][stance:1] etc |
| 06:14.13 | orionshock | setting an attrib of a macro means it acts as if created in game and on an action bar |
| 06:14.20 | orionshock | is there a way to prevent it from spamming? |
| 06:14.34 | Totems | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:14.35 | orionshock | ya, hooking the UIError frame |
| 06:14.48 | orionshock | b/c we don't have target exacts |
| 06:15.04 | orionshock | trust me take a look at gladiator on the svn, it has a nice method u might like |
| 06:15.11 | Totems | gladiator, ok |
| 06:15.33 | Sole | yeah |
| 06:15.45 | orionshock | it does something to the effect of /target Earth Bind Totem\n/cast moonfire\n/targetlasttarget |
| 06:15.52 | Totems | too many files, which one |
| 06:15.58 | Sole | Gladiator.lua and Frame.lua |
| 06:16.04 | Sole | < author |
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| 06:16.08 | orionshock | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:16.31 | Totems | can you show me screenshots of this mod? |
| 06:16.42 | Totems | maybe i dont need to make one, does your mod do the totem thing? |
| 06:17.13 | Sole | no its completely different |
| 06:17.14 | orionshock | gladiator makes "psudo" unitframes for anrena players |
| 06:17.20 | Sole | pseudo |
| 06:17.38 | orionshock | ...ya, AVing and IRC at the same time :D |
| 06:17.54 | Totems | where can i see screenshots? |
| 06:18.05 | Sole | speaking of which, I might make Cockfight (gladiator2) using Joker |
| 06:18.15 | Sole | Totems: you cant, I never released it properly |
| 06:18.34 | Totems | damn, what text should i search for? totem? /target? |
| 06:18.35 | Sole | Totems: tell me what you need to do with macros |
| 06:18.45 | Sole | go to line 487 |
| 06:18.54 | Sole | thats the Gladiator:SetButtonAttributes method |
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| 06:19.24 | Totems | i see |
| 06:19.27 | Totems | brilliant |
| 06:19.37 | Totems | can i steal your code |
| 06:19.48 | Sole | basically you just want to look at the macro1/macro2 defs |
| 06:19.50 | Sole | yeah go ahead |
| 06:20.01 | Sole | its not exactly revolutionary |
| 06:20.04 | ckknight_ | you say tomato, I say tomato. You say potato, I say potato. Tomato, tomato. Potato, potato. Let's call the whole thing off |
| 06:20.19 | Sole | lol ck |
| 06:20.25 | Totems | my gf loves old movies, and references that movie frequently |
| 06:20.48 | ckknight_ | Steve Martin's sketch of it is great. |
| 06:21.22 | *** mode/#wowace [+o ckknight_] by ChanServ |
| 06:22.50 | SaladFork | Hehe |
| 06:22.55 | SaladFork | Screenie of my addon (still in progress): |
| 06:22.56 | SaladFork | http://img259.imageshack.us/img259/5017/wowscrnshot090207022106iz8.jpg |
| 06:23.22 | Totems | accomplish? |
| 06:23.24 | SaladFork | yep |
| 06:23.42 | Totems | cool |
| 06:23.46 | Sole | good idea |
| 06:23.51 | SaladFork | You can see one of the things I missed in the 3rd goal |
| 06:23.52 | SaladFork | =P |
| 06:23.52 | Sole | Ive been wanting to do that for a long long time now |
| 06:24.15 | SaladFork | Sole - I've always wanted something that will let me be like "I need 20 primal fires" |
| 06:24.18 | SaladFork | and have some way of tracking my progress |
| 06:24.30 | SaladFork | GarbageFu was alright, but took a lot of space on FuBar (and as you can see, mine can get crowded) |
| 06:24.35 | SaladFork | And only had a "current count" feature |
| 06:24.42 | Sole | SaladFork: when I played seriously Id always keep like 20 mental notes of all the shit I had to do - naturally I forgot some of it :( |
| 06:24.46 | SaladFork | My goal is to let Accomplish track items, actions, payments, quests |
| 06:25.27 | Sole | your gold is most impressive |
| 06:25.37 | SaladFork | Haha |
| 06:25.46 | Sole | also |
| 06:25.49 | SaladFork | I'm surprised I happen to have taken this screenshot at such a bad time |
| 06:25.54 | SaladFork | I'm usually the richest of my friends |
| 06:25.55 | Sole | the 3rd goal, Have: 7 guildies online |
| 06:25.58 | SaladFork | I just spent 16,000g yesterday |
| 06:26.01 | CIA-14 | 03siz * r47916 10FuBar_AddonSpamFu/ (AddonSpamFu.lua FuBar_AddonSpamFu.toc): |
| 06:26.02 | CIA-14 | FuBar_AddonSpamFu: |
| 06:26.02 | CIA-14 | - Added deDE translation by Farook |
| 06:26.02 | CIA-14 | - Sort prefix list also |
| 06:26.05 | Totems | uhh |
| 06:26.08 | Totems | 16,000 gold |
| 06:26.15 | SaladFork | Totems - I don't buy anything anymore |
| 06:26.19 | SaladFork | All my upgrades are drops |
| 06:26.20 | Sole | the percentage has like 10 dp, you want to math.floor that bad boy |
| 06:26.21 | SaladFork | So my money just adds up |
| 06:26.27 | SaladFork | (I do all 10 dailies everyday) |
| 06:26.31 | SaladFork | Sole - I know already, =P |
| 06:26.36 | SaladFork | [02:23am] [SaladFork] You can see one of the things I missed in the 3rd goal |
| 06:26.37 | Sole | yeah if you do dailies it adds up |
| 06:26.45 | SaladFork | I get about 150-200g/day in dailies |
| 06:26.52 | SaladFork | I got TWO epic world drops the other day |
| 06:26.55 | SaladFork | Sold one for 900g and the other for 1.2k |
| 06:26.56 | Totems | wow, i only get to do 2 dailies |
| 06:27.07 | Totems | resto druid ftl |
| 06:27.09 | SaladFork | Lol |
| 06:27.12 | SaladFork | But yeah |
| 06:27.30 | orionshock | ya but we a pain in the ass to kill in BG's |
| 06:27.39 | SaladFork | I gave one friend 4750g for his epic flying mount, bought myself Darkmoon Card: Crusade (one of the last upgrades I can still buy) for 4500g |
| 06:27.57 | Recluse | i haven't done a daily since i got my drake. i prefer to farm herbs and ores for my money |
| 06:28.00 | SaladFork | I had someone COD me a bunch of primal airs he farmed last night for 20g per (standard price is ~25g/per) |
| 06:28.15 | SaladFork | Another guy CODed me a bunch of primal fires he farmed for 15g per (usual is ~22g/per) |
| 06:28.25 | SaladFork | Recluse - I have tailoring/enchanting |
| 06:28.27 | SaladFork | Both money sinks |
| 06:28.29 | SaladFork | =( |
| 06:29.04 | SaladFork | I actually spent part of the 16000g powerleveling my tailoring up to 375 (finally) |
| 06:29.08 | SaladFork | err |
| 06:29.10 | SaladFork | not my tailoring |
| 06:29.11 | SaladFork | my enchanting* |
| 06:29.30 | Recluse | those gathering professions are awesome 300/day casually 1200-1500g/day hardcore |
| 06:29.35 | SaladFork | I know |
| 06:29.37 | SaladFork | I WISHHHH I had one |
| 06:29.44 | orionshock | anyone know what exactly the esc key does, i always findmyself with it being dumb and not closing shit |
| 06:29.48 | SaladFork | But I can't drop tailoring or my epic tailoring set won't work for me |
| 06:30.03 | SaladFork | And I can't dorp enchanting because I've spent sooooo much money getting it to 375, and sooooo much time farming certain recipes |
| 06:30.05 | SaladFork | And I'm the guild enchanter |
| 06:30.32 | SaladFork | Orion - Closes any open frames if it finds any, otherwise cancels any spell/actions if it find any, otherwise opens the main menu |
| 06:30.57 | Recluse | hopefully you get good tips off the nice chants tho |
| 06:31.01 | SaladFork | No |
| 06:31.05 | SaladFork | On my server, tips are impossible |
| 06:31.14 | CIA-14 | 03ckknight * r47917 10/ (branches/Joker/ckknight/LibRock-1.0/ trunk/LibRock-1.0/): LibRock-1.0 - moving to trunk |
| 06:31.22 | SaladFork | I went from 280 to 372 enchanting purely off of selling enchants |
| 06:31.39 | SaladFork | I LOST a total of about 300g (don't ask, for some reason enchants are cheapero n my server than the mats) |
| 06:31.43 | SaladFork | And was tipped a total of 60g |
| 06:31.48 | SaladFork | For ALLLL the enchants from 280 to 372 |
| 06:31.54 | Recluse | heh |
| 06:32.03 | SaladFork | It's horrible |
| 06:32.10 | SaladFork | I wouldn't recommend Enchanting to ANYONE who wants to have money |
| 06:33.01 | Totems | i have it for my rings |
| 06:33.08 | SaladFork | Mmm, that's a consideration |
| 06:33.15 | SaladFork | But even then I'd recommend getting a gathering profession |
| 06:33.20 | SaladFork | Accumulating a few thousand gold |
| 06:33.24 | Totems | are you sure /rl reloads from the file? |
| 06:33.28 | SaladFork | Then powerleveling enchanting yourself to 375 |
| 06:33.30 | SaladFork | Totems - Yes |
| 06:33.38 | SaladFork | Because selling enchanting is a NIGHTMARE |
| 06:33.45 | orionshock | only reloads .lua files, not toc or xml's |
| 06:33.57 | kergoth | hmm |
| 06:34.32 | ckknight | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:34.49 | Totems | my parent frame is invisible |
| 06:34.58 | SaladFork | Totems - does it have a backdrop? |
| 06:35.01 | orionshock | meh, i stand corrected, it just didn't seem like they did when i futzed with it |
| 06:35.08 | Totems | result:SetBackdrop(GameTooltip:GetBackdrop()) |
| 06:35.09 | Totems | result:SetBackdropBorderColor(1, 0, 0) |
| 06:35.21 | SaladFork | did you give it a width and a height? |
| 06:35.24 | Recluse | i was herb/alch but once alchemy got nerfed (the guardian/battle crap), i just couldn't sell enough to keep up the cashflow |
| 06:35.29 | Totems | oh |
| 06:35.39 | SaladFork | Recluse - Really? I've heard selling potions can net you quite a profit |
| 06:35.59 | Totems | yes i did, no go |
| 06:36.00 | Antiarc | I just sell herbs and it's stupidly profitable |
| 06:36.03 | Totems | result:SetWidth(500) |
| 06:36.05 | Totems | result:SetHeight(100) |
| 06:36.19 | SaladFork | Did you call the function that makes the parent frame? |
| 06:36.24 | Totems | local result = CreateFrame("Frame", "ButtonFrame", UIParent) |
| 06:36.25 | Recluse | well, since they can only keep a max of two elixir effects they don't buy as much as back in the day when you could stack 5-6 pots at a time |
| 06:36.39 | SaladFork | Totems - I assume you have that nestled in a CreateParentFrame() function of some kind, did you call it? |
| 06:36.57 | Totems | function DruidsAgainstTotems:OnEnable() |
| 06:36.59 | Totems | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:37.00 | SaladFork | Recluse - I guess it depends on how progressed your server is |
| 06:37.05 | SaladFork | And how many actively progressing guilds there are |
| 06:37.25 | Totems | Smart Man SaladFork, i stripped out some ace stuff and i think my onenabled isnt working now |
| 06:37.29 | Recluse | could be part of the issue, no doubt |
| 06:38.14 | CIA-14 | 03ckknight * r47918 10/ (2 files in 2 dirs): LibRockComm-1.0 - moving to trunk |
| 06:38.17 | SaladFork | Totems |
| 06:38.18 | SaladFork | In game |
| 06:38.27 | Totems | you are in game now? |
| 06:38.32 | SaladFork | Type /script DruidsAgainstTotems:CreateParentFrame() |
| 06:38.33 | ckknight | alt-tabbed |
| 06:38.34 | SaladFork | In-game |
| 06:38.44 | CIA-14 | 03ckknight * r47919 10/ (2 files in 2 dirs): LibRockConfig-1.0 - moving to trunk |
| 06:39.19 | CIA-14 | 03ckknight * r47920 10/ (2 files in 2 dirs): LibRockConsole-1.0 - moving to trunk |
| 06:39.43 | CIA-14 | 03ckknight * r47921 10/ (branches/Joker/ckknight/LibRockDB-1.0/ trunk/LibRockDB-1.0/): LibRockDB-1.0 - moving to trunk |
| 06:39.46 | SaladFork | Ewwwww, Rock. |
| 06:39.58 | SaladFork | Joker was _SO_ much better than Rock |
| 06:39.59 | CIA-14 | 03ckknight * r47922 10/ (2 files in 2 dirs): LibRockEvent-1.0 - moving to trunk |
| 06:40.24 | Totems | SaladFork, i renamed CreateParentFrame() to DruidsAgainstTotems:CreateParentFrame() reloaded the UI, i instantly got an error on load that could not find DruidsAGainst..... |
| 06:40.28 | Totems | meaning, my OnLoad is working |
| 06:40.34 | CIA-14 | 03ckknight * r47923 10/ (2 files in 2 dirs): LibRockHook-1.0 - moving to trunk |
| 06:40.35 | Totems | my CreateFrame is |
| 06:40.36 | Recluse | but is it a rock like stone, music, or motion? |
| 06:40.39 | Totems | working |
| 06:40.42 | SaladFork | Totems - don't rename it |
| 06:40.45 | SaladFork | TYPE IT, in game |
| 06:40.55 | Totems | nil value |
| 06:40.55 | SaladFork | XD |
| 06:41.00 | SaladFork | Because you just renamed it |
| 06:41.03 | SaladFork | lol |
| 06:41.10 | Totems | wait wait that line didnt come out right |
| 06:41.17 | Totems | CreateFrame is not working, OnLoad is working |
| 06:41.21 | SaladFork | Oh |
| 06:41.26 | SaladFork | It's erroring on your CreateFrame line? |
| 06:41.40 | Totems | It errored inside OnEnabled saying cannot find CreateFrame |
| 06:41.49 | Totems | because i renamed it, that tells me my onLoad is working |
| 06:41.54 | Totems | meaning, its being called when its loaded |
| 06:42.13 | Totems | I fixed the naming, and i call it in game, nothing happens, no error, no frame |
| 06:42.19 | Totems | let me pastey create parent frame |
| 06:42.36 | orionshock | local frame? |
| 06:42.41 | Totems | http://ace.pastey.net/73280 |
| 06:42.47 | Totems | i'm learning a ton, thank you guys |
| 06:42.53 | SaladFork | Oh crap, you localized all your functions, didn't you? |
| 06:43.00 | Totems | check out my pastey |
| 06:43.11 | SaladFork | Hmmm |
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| 06:43.20 | Xinhuan | [9/2 14:30:47] <SaladFork> I wouldn't recommend Enchanting to ANYONE who wants to have money |
| 06:43.23 | SaladFork | Totems - if you want to follow standards |
| 06:43.25 | orionshock | um... don't local your parent frame |
| 06:43.26 | Xinhuan | i make at least 100-200g off enchants daily |
| 06:43.37 | SaladFork | Xin - Nice, it's horrid on my server |
| 06:43.42 | SaladFork | Yeah |
| 06:43.46 | Xinhuan | i don't charge people either, just rely on pure tips |
| 06:43.48 | Xinhuan | because |
| 06:43.55 | Totems | SaladFork: i value readability over standards |
| 06:43.59 | SaladFork | Xin - nobody tips on my server, ever. And the cost of the enchant is CHEAPER than the cost of the mats |
| 06:44.00 | Xinhuan | back in the days, i charged quite a bit, then ppl undercut back, i undercut them back, etc |
| 06:44.01 | SaladFork | For soem reason |
| 06:44.01 | Xinhuan | so |
| 06:44.07 | SaladFork | Totems - I know |
| 06:44.12 | Xinhuan | at the end of it, i decided to just make them free |
| 06:44.15 | Chaoslux | is CKKnight having fun make 8 revisions in 2 minutes? XD |
| 06:44.19 | Xinhuan | and that pretty much set the server standard |
| 06:44.20 | Xinhuan | :) |
| 06:44.21 | SaladFork | But you should have DruidsAgainstTotems:CreateParentFrame() |
| 06:44.27 | SaladFork | andDruidsAgainstTotems:GetmacroText() |
| 06:44.29 | Xinhuan | since i'm the best enchanter on the server with every enchant hehe |
| 06:44.32 | SaladFork | and DruidsAgainstTotems:CreateButton() |
| 06:44.48 | SaladFork | then to clal them |
| 06:44.49 | SaladFork | you just use |
| 06:44.52 | SaladFork | self:GetMacroText() |
| 06:45.27 | Totems | done, no visible frame in wow |
| 06:46.09 | Chaoslux | Xinhuan: How populated is your server? |
| 06:46.18 | Xinhuan | very populated |
| 06:46.22 | Xinhuan | has queues on weekends |
| 06:46.23 | Chaoslux | That explain it |
| 06:46.24 | SaladFork | DUH |
| 06:46.27 | SaladFork | Totems - SetPoint(0 |
| 06:46.29 | SaladFork | err |
| 06:46.30 | Xinhuan | 48 guilds in SSC/TK |
| 06:46.30 | SaladFork | SetPoint() |
| 06:46.32 | Chaoslux | Im Low-Medium Enchanter >.> |
| 06:46.34 | SaladFork | Add |
| 06:46.41 | SaladFork | result:SetPoint("CENTER", UIParent, "CENTER") |
| 06:46.41 | Chaoslux | LowMedium server* Enchanter |
| 06:46.41 | Xinhuan | and 8 of those in black temple |
| 06:46.44 | SaladFork | that should work I believe |
| 06:47.08 | Totems | why does yours work and mine doesnt |
| 06:47.11 | Totems | your change worked |
| 06:47.30 | SaladFork | You didn't have a SetPoint anwhere |
| 06:47.38 | SaladFork | So it probably created a frame, but didn't know where to put it |
| 06:47.38 | SaladFork | =P |
| 06:47.40 | ZealotOnAStick | why "Rock?" |
| 06:47.46 | SaladFork | Zealot - I don't like it, =( |
| 06:47.48 | Chaoslux | Good question |
| 06:47.49 | Chaoslux | :/ |
| 06:47.53 | Totems | SaladFork: --result:SetPoint("TOPLEFT", 100,100) |
| 06:48.04 | SaladFork | Meh |
| 06:48.06 | SaladFork | I just Center/UIParent |
| 06:48.10 | SaladFork | puts it right int he center of my screen |
| 06:48.11 | SaladFork | can't missi t |
| 06:48.12 | SaladFork | =D |
| 06:48.14 | Totems | lol |
| 06:48.14 | Chaoslux | What you mean by "When we restart to Revision 1" too? |
| 06:48.16 | SaladFork | (at least for testing reasons) |
| 06:49.08 | ckknight | back, mom came in |
| 06:49.18 | ckknight | ZealotOnAStick, because it's short, sweet, and can't be beat |
| 06:49.20 | ckknight | smash! |
| 06:49.25 | orionshock | Totems: deLocal result, that way you can play with it in game, then go back and local it |
| 06:49.42 | orionshock | nmd |
| 06:49.48 | orionshock | your returning it |
| 06:50.00 | CIA-14 | 03ckknight * r47924 10/ (2 files in 2 dirs): LibRockLocale-1.0 - moving to trunk |
| 06:50.03 | Chaoslux | and what about the r1 thing? , are you guys really going to erase 50k of revisions? |
| 06:50.19 | ckknight | ZealotOnAStick, really, it's small, easy to remember, easy to spell, and give a feeling of it being a foundation, strong, firm, powerful, smash-tastic |
| 06:50.44 | CIA-14 | 03ckknight * r47925 10/ (2 files in 2 dirs): LibRockModuleCore-1.0 - moving to trunk |
| 06:50.48 | SaladFork | Oh |
| 06:50.49 | SaladFork | Totems |
| 06:50.52 | SaladFork | [02:47am] [Totems] SaladFork: --result:SetPoint("TOPLEFT", 100,100) |
| 06:50.54 | SaladFork | Is that what you had? |
| 06:51.04 | Totems | i'm sorry, what? |
| 06:51.14 | SaladFork | [02:46am] [Totems] why does yours work and mine doesnt |
| 06:51.14 | SaladFork | [02:46am] [Totems] your change worked |
| 06:51.15 | CIA-14 | 03ckknight * r47926 10/ (2 files in 2 dirs): LibRockTimer-1.0 - moving to trunk |
| 06:51.20 | SaladFork | Were you referring to you having that code |
| 06:51.22 | SaladFork | result:SetPoint("TOPLEFT", 100,100) |
| 06:51.27 | Totems | yes i had that |
| 06:51.30 | SaladFork | Okay |
| 06:51.38 | SaladFork | http://www.wowwiki.com/API_SetPoint |
| 06:51.41 | SaladFork | That should explain it |
| 06:51.42 | Totems | DruidsAgainstTotems:GetPadding() |
| 06:51.43 | Totems | return 5; |
| 06:51.45 | Totems | end |
| 06:51.47 | Totems | why is that erroring |
| 06:51.54 | SaladFork | function |
| 06:51.54 | SaladFork | ;) |
| 06:51.58 | Totems | nice |
| 06:52.01 | SaladFork | function DruidsAgainstTotems:GetPadding() |
| 06:52.26 | Totems | i'm dominating this Lua thing |
| 06:52.28 | Totems | lol |
| 06:52.30 | Totems | well, you are |
| 06:52.36 | ckknight | I'm dominating your mom |
| 06:52.40 | Totems | she's hot |
| 06:53.01 | Totems | my button is no longer clickable like a normal button |
| 06:53.07 | Totems | we changed something at this line |
| 06:53.13 | Totems | local button = CreateFrame("Button", totemName, parent, "SecureActionButtonTemplate") |
| 06:53.18 | ckknight | the others cry out for her. their screams of agony are the kisses I place along her neck |
| 06:53.22 | Totems | it used to be a clickable (animate on mouse over) button |
| 06:53.44 | SaladFork | Totems - check the layer you put it on, it may be underneath out parent frame |
| 06:53.52 | SaladFork | s/out/your/ |
| 06:54.07 | Totems | possible, i put it in the parent layer |
| 06:54.39 | SaladFork | Hmmm |
| 06:54.47 | Totems | how do i determine the layer |
| 06:55.29 | SaladFork | Errr |
| 06:55.38 | SaladFork | SetFrameLevel() |
| 06:55.43 | Totems | i put the button in the UIParent layer |
| 06:55.45 | Totems | and it is not clickable |
| 06:55.52 | Totems | no mouseover animation |
| 06:56.59 | orionshock | add another layer "Artwork" and use an Mouseover event script |
| 06:57.16 | Totems | wait, i just want a standard button, we did this before really easy |
| 06:57.23 | Totems | i'm checking the pastey history |
| 06:57.48 | SaladFork | XD |
| 06:57.53 | Recluse | when defining an external to, say dewdrop, do we link to /DewdropLib or /DewdropLib/Dewdrop-2.0/? |
| 06:58.07 | Totems | i got it, we did ActionButtonTemplate instead of SecureActionButtonTemplate |
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| 06:58.32 | Totems | i thought we had to do secure because i want it to work in combat |
| 07:00.24 | Chaoslux | Btw can someone tell me what Joker did, or, what Rock does? |
| 07:00.56 | SaladFork | Chaos - it's supposedly the successor of Ace2 |
| 07:01.02 | SaladFork | http://www.wowace.com/wiki/Joker |
| 07:01.02 | SaladFork | .wiki Joker |
| 07:01.26 | Totems | SaladFork: I got my button, clickable, i'd like it to /say Hi when i click it. i did the following: |
| 07:01.38 | Totems | button:SetAttribute("type1", "macro") |
| 07:01.40 | Totems | button:SetAttribute("macro1", "/say hi") |
| 07:01.53 | Totems | it did not say hi |
| 07:02.24 | SaladFork | Totems - Honestly, I haven't made a button yet |
| 07:02.36 | SaladFork | Though the Widget API isn't showing :SetAttribute() as a function |
| 07:02.37 | SaladFork | /shrug |
| 07:04.11 | SaladFork | ckknight - ping |
| 07:04.16 | ckknight | pong |
| 07:04.31 | SaladFork | Is Joker (Rock = ew) going to have a section for creating keybindings? |
| 07:04.53 | ckknight | well, with LibRockConfig-1.0, you can have keybinding controls |
| 07:05.00 | ckknight | is that what you mean? |
| 07:05.09 | CIA-14 | 03ckknight 07Joker * r47927 10CowTip/CowTip/ (11 files in 9 dirs): CowTip (Joker branch) - change to Rock trunk instead of Joker branch. Make embeds.xml use lib.xml |
| 07:05.44 | SaladFork | Well, some way to be like self:AddKeybinding("AddonName:SomeFunction()") |
| 07:05.59 | SaladFork | And then in WoW you can scroll through the keybindings and you can bind a key to SomeFunction() |
| 07:06.21 | ckknight | ah, no. |
| 07:06.39 | SaladFork | heh |
| 07:06.41 | Xinhuan | the stuff in the wow default keybindings frame doesn't showup unless it is in bindings.xml i thought? |
| 07:06.42 | SaladFork | Is that possible? |
| 07:06.46 | SaladFork | Oh, does it use an xml? |
| 07:06.52 | Chaoslux | o.o so, You guys will be changing name from "Ace" to "Rock" o_O |
| 07:06.53 | SaladFork | mmmk |
| 07:06.54 | Xinhuan | yes, it is a special file |
| 07:06.59 | Xinhuan | that wow always loads |
| 07:07.01 | SaladFork | Chaos - Doesn't "Rock" suck? |
| 07:07.05 | Xinhuan | even if not specified |
| 07:07.13 | Chaoslux | yes it does |
| 07:07.30 | Chaoslux | I already cant wait for WoWRockUpdater to get out >.> |
| 07:07.47 | Xinhuan | won't need that chaos |
| 07:07.48 | SaladFork | /agree |
| 07:07.58 | Xinhuan | wowaceupdater can update Rock addons already |
| 07:08.02 | Xinhuan | ;p |
| 07:08.10 | SaladFork | Rock as a name = epic phail. |
| 07:08.55 | Xinhuan | oak > rock for the coolname factor |
| 07:08.59 | Xinhuan | anyway, brb |
| 07:09.02 | Totems | ace is fine |
| 07:09.03 | Totems | keep it ace |
| 07:09.06 | SaladFork | He can't |
| 07:09.09 | SaladFork | Kael won't let him |
| 07:09.15 | Totems | i cant get my frame clickable |
| 07:09.17 | Totems | who is Kael |
| 07:09.22 | ckknight | :EnableMouse(True) |
| 07:09.32 | ckknight | Totems, Kaelten |
| 07:09.46 | Totems | is it the owner? |
| 07:09.48 | Chaoslux | Rock:ChangeName("Oak") |
| 07:09.49 | Chaoslux | >.>;; |
| 07:10.02 | ckknight | bah. |
| 07:10.07 | ckknight | you all suck |
| 07:10.13 | Chaoslux | no seriously, i would prefer Rock to Oak |
| 07:10.15 | Chaoslux | o_O |
| 07:10.16 | ckknight | it's staying rock, at least for now |
| 07:10.21 | Chaoslux | and prefer Rock to Joker ;p |
| 07:10.24 | Totems | Who is making it change, why does he have this power? |
| 07:10.30 | ckknight | Joker seemed like too much of a Joke |
| 07:10.34 | SaladFork | Nah man |
| 07:10.36 | Chaoslux | Don't worry Ckknight, we all <3 you |
| 07:10.37 | SaladFork | Joker is a cool ass name |
| 07:10.46 | ckknight | Totems, Turan, creator of Ace1, passed on the torch of administration to Kaelten |
| 07:10.48 | Chaoslux | oh, and Rock looks like "It Rocks" |
| 07:10.54 | Chaoslux | right? |
| 07:10.59 | ckknight | yea |
| 07:11.02 | ckknight | also, smashing things |
| 07:11.05 | SaladFork | meh |
| 07:11.07 | Chaoslux | XD lol |
| 07:11.07 | Xinhuan | ~dict rock |
| 07:11.09 | SaladFork | Rocks are BORING |
| 07:11.10 | SaladFork | They just sit there |
| 07:11.11 | Totems | Kaelten is deciding to change the name? it's bad, very bad |
| 07:11.18 | SaladFork | They don't move, they don't do anything. |
| 07:11.22 | Totems | customer confusion, mod rewrites |
| 07:11.27 | SaladFork | Totems - No, he just doesn't approve of Ckknight's addon being called Ace |
| 07:11.30 | Xinhuan | that's random. why did purl report definition 3 |
| 07:11.33 | Xinhuan | and not 1 |
| 07:11.35 | Totems | oh |
| 07:11.36 | Totems | OH |
| 07:11.39 | ckknight | Totems, no, I can't call my addon framework Ace3 |
| 07:11.44 | Totems | LOL |
| 07:11.44 | ckknight | even though I wrote most of Ace2... |
| 07:11.46 | Totems | of course not |
| 07:12.00 | Antiarc | ~dict omen |
| 07:12.15 | SaladFork | "You will pull that mob if you keep slapping it" |
| 07:12.19 | ckknight | lol |
| 07:12.27 | Antiarc | That's sorta why I named it that :P |
| 07:12.32 | Antiarc | "A portent of things to come" |
| 07:12.34 | SaladFork | Hehe, =D |
| 07:12.35 | Antiarc | (Like dead mages) |
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| 07:12.40 | SaladFork | Dude, you have no idea |
| 07:12.45 | SaladFork | I got non-crit for like 22k last night |
| 07:12.45 | Xinhuan | arcane mages don't pull aggro ;p |
| 07:12.47 | SaladFork | Freaking raid bosses |
| 07:12.51 | SaladFork | Or really |
| 07:12.54 | SaladFork | freaking bad tanks |
| 07:12.58 | SaladFork | We took a new tank for a spin |
| 07:12.58 | Antiarc | SaladFork: I'm a rogue |
| 07:13.01 | SaladFork | We should train him more |
| 07:13.05 | Antiarc | I have more idea than you know :P |
| 07:13.05 | SaladFork | Anti - Pshh, go vanish into a corner |
| 07:13.06 | Xinhuan | great |
| 07:13.15 | Xinhuan | i just zoned into an AV and 34 of the horde are from Blackrock server |
| 07:13.15 | Antiarc | [Magtheridon] Cleave [You] *17823* |
| 07:13.17 | Xinhuan | i.e a premade AV |
| 07:13.21 | Xinhuan | that "group queued" |
| 07:13.26 | SaladFork | Yummy |
| 07:13.27 | Xinhuan | time to defend the cave |
| 07:13.30 | Recluse | no love for us rogues? |
| 07:13.33 | SaladFork | Xin - Are you Horde or Ally? |
| 07:13.36 | Xinhuan | ally |
| 07:13.39 | SaladFork | You deserve it |
| 07:13.50 | Xinhuan | its ok |
| 07:13.51 | Xinhuan | 22 AVs up |
| 07:13.54 | SaladFork | Nah, I'll give you rogues credit. You didn't roll locks after all. |
| 07:13.55 | Xinhuan | only 1 in 22 chance |
| 07:13.59 | ckknight | Rock will Rock your world! |
| 07:14.05 | SaladFork | Rock will sit there and not do shit. |
| 07:14.08 | SaladFork | Like all the other rocks |
| 07:14.13 | SaladFork | Who sit there, boringly, and don't do shit. |
| 07:14.25 | SaladFork | I'm telling you ckk, they're all hard-headed |
| 07:14.29 | ckknight | Rock will smash your head, leaving a non-repairable gash! |
| 07:14.35 | ckknight | yea! |
| 07:14.43 | SaladFork | Rock can't smash my head unless someone throws it |
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| 07:14.50 | SaladFork | But you didn't call it LibThrownRock |
| 07:14.53 | SaladFork | or LibRockSomeoneThrew |
| 07:14.54 | SaladFork | It's just LibRock |
| 07:14.56 | SaladFork | it just sits there. |
| 07:14.57 | Totems | ckknight: call it knight |
| 07:15.10 | Totems | or Jack, for jack of all trades |
| 07:15.22 | Totems | also, can you help me make this button an action button: http://ace.pastey.net/73281 |
| 07:15.25 | ckknight | no, Totems, I don't like projects that have attributions in their names |
| 07:15.31 | CIA-14 | 03ckknight * r47928 10/branches/CowTip/ (Joker/ Rock/): CowTip - renaming Joker branch to Rock branch |
| 07:15.38 | ckknight | SaladFork, Rock can be anything you imagine it to be |
| 07:15.42 | ckknight | like a Rock Band |
| 07:15.44 | ZealotOnAStick | Xinhuan: we had some good horde group queuing action in AV earlier today. Had 38 of the 40 in the raid from Blackhand in one AV a couple of times. |
| 07:15.48 | ckknight | or a catapult's stone |
| 07:15.51 | SaladFork | ckknight - No, it's just sitting there. |
| 07:15.52 | SaladFork | Trust me |
| 07:15.57 | ckknight | or a foundation to a house |
| 07:15.59 | Xinhuan | yeah |
| 07:16.10 | SaladFork | Let me guess, the image you picked for rock just sits there? |
| 07:16.20 | ckknight | yea, so? |
| 07:16.20 | SaladFork | At least Parrots fly and squack and make fun of people |
| 07:16.25 | SaladFork | And CowTip is just hilarious |
| 07:16.31 | ckknight | it really is |
| 07:16.42 | ckknight | well, here's this |
| 07:16.43 | SaladFork | And Abacuses help you do math |
| 07:16.49 | SaladFork | Babble is a form of speaking |
| 07:16.52 | ckknight | the framework does nothing if you don't move it |
| 07:16.56 | SaladFork | Cartographer has to do with mats |
| 07:16.57 | ckknight | addons are what move it |
| 07:16.58 | SaladFork | errr |
| 07:16.58 | SaladFork | maps |
| 07:17.03 | SaladFork | and graphing stuff onto them |
| 07:17.12 | SaladFork | CrayonLib colors stuff |
| 07:17.14 | SaladFork | as do crayons |
| 07:17.15 | ckknight | therefore, addons make the rocks be thrown, etc. |
| 07:17.19 | ckknight | otherwise the rock does nothing |
| 07:17.20 | SaladFork | Deformat will deformat strings |
| 07:17.23 | ckknight | which is what you want |
| 07:17.27 | SaladFork | Dewdrop "drops down" |
| 07:17.37 | SaladFork | DogChow feeds your pet |
| 07:17.39 | Antiarc | If you immediately know the fire is candlelight, the meal was cooked long ago. |
| 07:17.42 | SaladFork | I'm saying all your addons have good titles |
| 07:17.47 | SaladFork | EXCEPT for the boring rock |
| 07:17.51 | ckknight | you're boring |
| 07:17.56 | ckknight | rock is awesome |
| 07:17.57 | Antiarc | Rock is pretty boring. |
| 07:17.57 | SaladFork | .nick Rock |
| 07:18.00 | SaladFork | DAMNIT |
| 07:18.07 | SaladFork | Rock Erroneous Nickname |
| 07:18.14 | ckknight | wtf? |
| 07:18.14 | Funkeh` | Your mom is boring as I found out last night. |
| 07:18.15 | SaladFork | That nickname is so bad even the server won't let me humiliate myself like that |
| 07:18.28 | ckknight | *sigh* |
| 07:18.30 | SaladFork | /win |
| 07:18.31 | ckknight | just stop, SaladFork |
| 07:18.36 | SaladFork | Heh, fine |
| 07:18.42 | Funkeh` | later |
| 07:18.43 | ckknight | it'll grow on you |
| 07:18.47 | SaladFork | Oh, no doubt |
| 07:18.53 | SaladFork | But the first impression is bleh |
| 07:19.03 | SaladFork | Once you get past the bleh |
| 07:19.04 | SaladFork | The name rocks. |
| 07:19.07 | SaladFork | (hehe, puns) |
| 07:19.09 | ckknight | It'll rock your world |
| 07:19.19 | SaladFork | LibRock - It Rocks. |
| 07:19.39 | ckknight | LibRock - Built Ford Tough |
| 07:19.40 | ckknight | wait |
| 07:19.42 | SaladFork | haha |
| 07:19.46 | SaladFork | LibRock - Throw it at people |
| 07:20.13 | ckknight | there's all sorts of phrases that can be made |
| 07:20.16 | starlon | LibRock - No, not crack. |
| 07:20.17 | ckknight | and for the fanbois to use |
| 07:20.22 | ckknight | not just "Make it Ace" |
| 07:20.26 | SaladFork | LibRock - Paper, Scissors |
| 07:20.37 | ckknight | I actually made an RPS game in WoW |
| 07:20.41 | SaladFork | RPS? |
| 07:20.41 | ckknight | to test AceComm |
| 07:20.46 | ckknight | Rock-Paper-Scissors |
| 07:20.48 | SaladFork | Oh |
| 07:20.49 | SaladFork | Duh |
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| 07:21.18 | asmodai | Morning. |
| 07:21.48 | Xinhuan | just wait till someone creates a framework called Paper |
| 07:21.51 | asmodai | Anyone else having problems since the last Omen commit? |
| 07:22.24 | Xinhuan | get the latest one asmodai, i think there was an issue with threat-1.0 yesterday |
| 07:22.29 | SaladFork | If I ever make a framework, it _WILL_ be called Zomg |
| 07:22.34 | asmodai | I did update and rechecked now. |
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| 07:22.39 | SaladFork | And every addon will start with Zomg |
| 07:22.40 | asmodai | Let me see if I still get a traceback |
| 07:22.43 | SaladFork | zomgMap |
| 07:22.45 | SaladFork | zomgQuests |
| 07:23.06 | asmodai | SaladFork: You're making my eyes bleed way too early :P |
| 07:23.12 | SaladFork | Hahaha |
| 07:23.18 | SaladFork | zomgQuitWoW |
| 07:23.29 | ckknight | SaladFork, you're free to make an addon that starts with Zomg |
| 07:23.39 | SaladFork | Ckk - Do I have your blessing? |
| 07:23.44 | ckknight | Xinhuan, rock beats all! |
| 07:23.48 | ckknight | SaladFork, sure, why not? |
| 07:23.51 | SaladFork | Woohoo |
| 07:24.09 | ZealotOnAStick | ok, now make a Warlock Shard/stone/summon mod called RockChips. |
| 07:24.43 | SaladFork | zomgWarlock |
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| 07:24.48 | Xinhuan | wooo comparison code in my addon done |
| 07:24.49 | Xinhuan | finally |
| 07:24.52 | asmodai | Xinhuan: Mm, oh well, works now, guess it got updated after I checked it out twice. |
| 07:25.10 | Xinhuan | now i just need to make a fontstring to show the results... |
| 07:25.38 | SaladFork | sdaffffffffffffffffff |
| 07:25.42 | SaladFork | Sorry, cat jumped onto the keyboard |
| 07:25.45 | asmodai | :D |
| 07:25.51 | Xinhuan | cat > SaladFork |
| 07:25.53 | asmodai | Mine used to do that as well. |
| 07:25.55 | SaladFork | zomgCat |
| 07:26.00 | ckknight | lol |
| 07:26.07 | SaladFork | Well, usually it jumps onto my desk before trying to get onto my lap |
| 07:26.16 | SaladFork | But my desk happens to be COVERED in empty mountain dew bottles at the moment |
| 07:26.24 | SaladFork | So the keyboard was the only platform available for my cat |
| 07:26.35 | asmodai | Now, if only ExperienceFu would have the cool coloured bars of FuXPFu I could eliminate another addon |
| 07:26.51 | Recluse | reasking: when defining an external to, say dewdrop, do we link to /DewdropLib or /DewdropLib/Dewdrop-2.0/? |
| 07:26.56 | SaladFork | Asmodai - Not a fan of having an XP bar? |
| 07:26.59 | asmodai | btw, good move on using Jira |
| 07:27.07 | asmodai | SaladFork: I like those coloured ones FuXPFu can do |
| 07:27.09 | Xinhuan | /DewdropLib/Dewdrop-2.0/ |
| 07:27.18 | asmodai | SaladFork: But ExperienceFu is nicer with details over FuXPFu |
| 07:27.20 | Recluse | Xinhuan: ty |
| 07:27.31 | SaladFork | asmodai - These draw XP bars on your Fubar? |
| 07:27.36 | asmodai | SaladFork: ya |
| 07:27.42 | Xinhuan | the entire folder you specify will be downloaded as the external |
| 07:27.58 | Xinhuan | so if you specified /DewdropLib, you would also get the toc file and heaps of other stuff |
| 07:28.05 | Totems | what is CandyBar |
| 07:28.06 | Xinhuan | and your embeds.xml would have a longer path |
| 07:28.31 | SaladFork | Totems - A library to make timed bars |
| 07:28.34 | Xinhuan | to specify the lua file to load |
| 07:29.21 | *** join/#wowace Ani| (n=ani@86.56.51.7) |
| 07:29.54 | *** join/#wowace Kirkburn (n=Kirkburn@82-32-40-219.cable.ubr06.azte.blueyonder.co.uk) |
| 07:30.53 | Recluse | ah, i see |
| 07:31.31 | ckknight | Recluse, ...this connundrum is also fixed in Rock |
| 07:31.48 | asmodai | Funny, the wow ace community strikes me as more experienced coders. |
| 07:31.56 | ckknight | I'm experienced ;-) |
| 07:31.57 | Recluse | XD the fixitall patch |
| 07:31.57 | asmodai | I mean, bug tracker, wiki, svn for vcs |
| 07:32.03 | asmodai | ckknight: So am I. |
| 07:32.05 | asmodai | :) |
| 07:32.35 | ckknight | purl, no rock is an addon framework written from scratch with the hindsight of Ace2, Dongle, Cosmos, and all the other addon frameworks for WoW out there. http://wowace.com/wiki/Rock |
| 07:32.35 | purl | okay, ckknight |
| 07:32.37 | asmodai | Just haven't done anything for WoW yet. (Aside from still writing an API programming guide) |
| 07:32.38 | ckknight | ~rock |
| 07:32.39 | purl | methinks rock is an addon framework written from scratch with the hindsight of Ace2, Dongle, Cosmos, and all the other addon frameworks for WoW out there. http://wowace.com/wiki/Rock |
| 07:32.48 | ckknight | asmodai, alright |
| 07:32.55 | ckknight | asmodai, planning on making something? |
| 07:33.06 | asmodai | ckknight: Need to find a niche first to fill :) |
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| 07:33.39 | SaladFork | Ckk - what happens if I repeat your command with a different definition? |
| 07:34.06 | Recluse | i'm fairly new to lua, but experienced in other languages |
| 07:34.11 | ckknight | it'll then be overwritten, SaladFork |
| 07:34.15 | SaladFork | Oh |
| 07:34.20 | ckknight | Recluse, what languages? |
| 07:34.23 | ckknight | just wondering |
| 07:34.29 | SaladFork | so telling purl rock is just sitting there being boring would be bad? |
| 07:34.35 | ckknight | yes. |
| 07:34.39 | SaladFork | Also, why did you say "no" before the description? |
| 07:34.45 | asmodai | Which addon would be one of the better to use to customize the button panel at the bottom (the default interface)? |
| 07:34.47 | ckknight | because it was already something else |
| 07:34.51 | ckknight | purl, rock is not rock |
| 07:34.52 | purl | ...but rock is already something else... |
| 07:34.55 | ckknight | see |
| 07:35.05 | SaladFork | Oh |
| 07:35.06 | ckknight | asmodai, I'm fond of Bartender |
| 07:35.12 | SaladFork | What didi t used to say? |
| 07:35.13 | SaladFork | ~joker |
| 07:35.16 | CIA-14 | 03nemes * r47929 10NBuffBars/ (6 files in 3 dirs): |
| 07:35.16 | CIA-14 | NBuffBars: |
| 07:35.16 | CIA-14 | - Use SpecialEvents-Aura... trust nothing that CTRA reports except for rebuff messages |
| 07:35.16 | CIA-14 | - Add time remaining to bar tooltips |
| 07:35.16 | CIA-14 | - Check member's buffs every 30 seconds or so |
| 07:35.16 | CIA-14 | - When buff time left is unknown, set bar to half the buff duration and mark the bar as "unknown" |
| 07:35.16 | ckknight | asmodai, though there are alternatives |
| 07:35.19 | Recluse | i'm primarily a php-centric coder these days. too many to list from years past |
| 07:35.22 | ckknight | ~paper |
| 07:35.23 | purl | rock, you win. |
| 07:35.25 | ckknight | ~scissors |
| 07:35.26 | purl | rock, I win. |
| 07:35.27 | ckknight | that thing |
| 07:35.29 | SaladFork | Oh |
| 07:35.37 | ckknight | ~literal paper |
| 07:35.37 | purl | "paper" is "<reply>paper, play again. || <reply>scissors, I win. || <reply>rock, you win." |
| 07:35.37 | SaladFork | So you can no longer do a rock in RPS? |
| 07:35.38 | SaladFork | Lose. |
| 07:35.41 | asmodai | ckknight: (and I am trying to remember which addons all have your name on it ;)) |
| 07:35.41 | SaladFork | oh |
| 07:35.45 | SaladFork | ~literal rock |
| 07:35.45 | purl | "rock" is "an addon framework written from scratch with the hindsight of Ace2, Dongle, Cosmos, and all the other addon frameworks for WoW out there. http://wowace.com/wiki/Rock" |
| 07:35.49 | SaladFork | interesting |
| 07:36.20 | ckknight | purl, rockrps is <reply>rock, play again. || <reply>paper, I win. || <reply>scissors, you win. |
| 07:36.20 | purl | ckknight: okay |
| 07:36.28 | ckknight | asmodai, quite a few: |
| 07:36.43 | ckknight | Ace2, FuBar, Cartographer, PitBull, CowTip, Parrot, Rock |
| 07:36.58 | SaladFork | AbacusLib |
| 07:37.00 | asmodai | yon-ken-po (if my Japanese ain't failing me now or else my gf will have my ass ;)) |
| 07:37.06 | ckknight | also, like 18 libs |
| 07:37.11 | asmodai | ckknight: I love parrot btw |
| 07:37.15 | ckknight | domo origato, mr. roboto |
| 07:37.18 | SaladFork | Recluse - I'm coming from a similar place as you |
| 07:37.22 | asmodai | ckknight: arigatou ;) |
| 07:37.35 | ckknight | ping pong. |
| 07:37.43 | ckknight | we speak English here in America. |
| 07:37.47 | ckknight | Woo, America! |
| 07:37.47 | SaladFork | Interesting |
| 07:37.56 | asmodai | ckknight: I'm European and my gf is Japanese. :) |
| 07:37.57 | SaladFork | I can make mIRC change my reply when someone does a CTCP Finger request |
| 07:37.58 | SaladFork | funfun |
| 07:38.17 | SaladFork | hehehe |
| 07:38.17 | asmodai | ckknight: So that means a healthy mix of Dutch, English, Japanese and Spanish to communicate. ^^ |
| 07:38.34 | SaladFork | I'm ifngering ckknight, =P |
| 07:38.34 | asmodai | (not to mention i18n and L10N are specialties of me. :)) |
| 07:38.36 | ckknight | asmodai, where did Dutch come from? |
| 07:38.36 | SaladFork | fingering* |
| 07:38.40 | Recluse | i think the hardest thing for me is fighting the urge to semicolon everything lol |
| 07:38.45 | asmodai | ckknight: I'm from the Netherlands. ^^ |
| 07:38.47 | ckknight | oh |
| 07:38.49 | [Ammo] | New York used to be New Amsterdam |
| 07:38.50 | ckknight | alright then |
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| 07:38.57 | [Ammo] | until we traded it (forced to) for Suriname |
| 07:38.57 | ckknight | good times, [ammo] |
| 07:39.00 | asmodai | [Ammo]: Yeah. :( |
| 07:39.10 | asmodai | [Ammo]: And look what it brought us! :D |
| 07:39.13 | ckknight | Old New York was once New Amsterdam |
| 07:39.15 | ckknight | :-P |
| 07:39.22 | ckknight | asmodai, yuppies? |
| 07:39.32 | asmodai | ckknight: more like import food ^^ |
| 07:39.38 | ckknight | :-P |
| 07:39.42 | asmodai | indian bara, chutney and all that |
| 07:39.49 | ckknight | indian food is pretty good |
| 07:39.52 | Recluse | <3 tmbg |
| 07:39.55 | ckknight | I had papadams yesterday |
| 07:40.00 | ckknight | Recluse, :-) |
| 07:43.02 | asmodai | Mmm, CastTime is already replaced with Quartz and the likes right? |
| 07:43.10 | Totems | Should i use FlexBar? it supposedly creates buttons? |
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| 07:43.21 | CIA-14 | 03nemes * r47930 10NShakedown/ (Addons/Scorchio.lua NShakedown.toc): NShakedown: add Scorchio support - thanks ennui |
| 07:49.48 | CIA-14 | 03warloxx * r47931 10GameLobby/: |
| 07:49.48 | CIA-14 | GameLobby: initial commit |
| 07:49.48 | CIA-14 | - It doesn't work yet. |
| 07:49.55 | Recluse | heh |
| 07:50.26 | ckknight | hehe |
| 07:50.27 | ckknight | yea |
| 07:50.35 | ckknight | Warloxx, we want to know what it does, though |
| 07:50.42 | ckknight | Warloxx, initial commits should give a description |
| 07:51.01 | ckknight | hehe |
| 07:51.02 | ckknight | a camel is a horse designed by committee |
| 07:51.23 | Recluse | i'm trying to get mine setup respectably before i make my initial commit |
| 07:51.29 | asmodai | Now this is a great comment by Blizzard: |
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| 07:51.38 | asmodai | You have to understand, naturally, that this sort of content, while fantastic and something I adore, is something that ranks lower in priority than, say, ensuring the game mechanics are in place and functional. |
| 07:51.42 | asmodai | This is icing on the cake -- we have to bake the cake first. You may not see it for everything you might want, therefore, but it is something we try to include when we have the time. |
| 07:51.54 | asmodai | They're near 2.2 and the game mechanics are still not in place? ^^ |
| 07:52.07 | asmodai | (Topic was about remembering past deeds of you by the NPCs) |
| 07:52.08 | ckknight | what is it they're referring to? |
| 07:52.12 | ckknight | oh |
| 07:53.08 | Warloxx | well, it is planned that moduled minigames can register in the gamelobby. in gamelobby you can see a serverlist of open games an join them. and of course you can make servers yourself |
| 07:53.16 | omega | Sole: ? |
| 07:53.24 | Sole | omega: hi |
| 07:53.44 | asmodai | You can always retroactively change the commit log with that :) |
| 07:53.58 | omega | Sole: ahh, nm, I scrolled back |
| 07:54.08 | omega | you pinged my window by mentioning Omega ati drivers :p |
| 07:54.09 | Sole | omega: hokay |
| 07:54.12 | Sole | lol |
| 07:54.19 | SaladFork | wtf |
| 07:54.24 | SaladFork | someone took myfirstname.mylastname@gmail.com |
| 07:54.31 | SaladFork | And I have VERY uncommon foreign name |
| 07:54.31 | SaladFork | o_O |
| 07:54.35 | ckknight | what is it? |
| 07:54.40 | SaladFork | Elad Shahar |
| 07:54.41 | Recluse | i have first.m.last@gmail.com for me |
| 07:54.49 | SaladFork | Recluse - I'd do that if I had a middle name |
| 07:54.52 | ckknight | *shrug* |
| 07:54.52 | Recluse | XD |
| 07:54.58 | ckknight | I have ckknight@gmail.com |
| 07:55.04 | SaladFork | I have SaladFork@Gmail.com |
| 07:55.05 | Recluse | what about f.last@gmail.com or first.l@gmail.com? |
| 07:55.06 | nevcairiel | do f.last@gmail.com |
| 07:55.14 | SaladFork | And I have Elad_Shahar@student.uml.edu (my college email) |
| 07:55.30 | SaladFork | I have all emails forwarded to my GMail account, and I used Gmail so I send the email as if I was on my college account |
| 07:55.40 | asmodai | Oh well, at least my asmodai@freebsd.org still works as well. |
| 07:55.52 | SaladFork | But of course, the ONE program in the ONE version that screws it up happens to be the one that my school uses |
| 07:56.03 | CIA-14 | 03ammo * r47932 10/branches/Ace3/: Ace3: empty folder for ace3 devel. will fill with some test stuff shortly |
| 07:56.13 | SaladFork | 99.9% of email programs will correctly show From: Elad_Shahar@student.uml.edu when I send a mail as that email address from GMail |
| 07:56.19 | SaladFork | But my school's servers freaking show |
| 07:56.26 | SaladFork | From: saladfork@gmail.com On Behalf Of Elad Shahar |
| 07:56.26 | SaladFork | wtf?! |
| 07:56.30 | SaladFork | That's not good enough |
| 07:56.37 | asmodai | hahaha |
| 07:56.37 | SaladFork | And I hate logging into the stupid thing, even if its just to send out an email |
| 07:56.46 | SaladFork | s/freaking show/server |
| 07:56.48 | asmodai | It makes for one hell of a cute discussion though. :D |
| 07:56.54 | SaladFork | Pisses me off, =( |
| 07:57.09 | SaladFork | I mean |
| 07:57.13 | asmodai | Life's too short to be angry. |
| 07:57.17 | SaladFork | Why can't it be From: Elad_Shahar@student.uml.edu like EVERY OTHER PROGRAM? |
| 07:57.22 | Xinhuan | so, Fonts.xml has GameFontNormalSmall, GameFontHighlightSmall, GameFontDarkGraySmall, GameFontRedSmall and a number other colours defined, but not WHITE |
| 07:57.26 | Xinhuan | pretty good |
| 07:57.27 | asmodai | That'd be convenient. |
| 07:57.37 | asmodai | For both of ya. :P |
| 07:57.38 | SaladFork | Xin - SetVertexColor() ftw |
| 07:57.39 | ckknight | Xinhuan, GameFontHighlight |
| 07:57.46 | SaladFork | or is it SetTextColor? |
| 07:57.47 | SaladFork | /shrug |
| 07:57.48 | Xinhuan | highlight is white? |
| 07:57.50 | ckknight | yea |
| 07:57.51 | Xinhuan | i thought that's yellow |
| 07:57.59 | ckknight | normal is yellow |
| 07:58.00 | SaladFork | I can't believe Elad.Shahar@Gmail is taken |
| 07:58.08 | SaladFork | because From: Elad.Shahar@Gmail.com On Behalf of Elad Shahar is fine |
| 07:58.12 | Xinhuan | hmm ok |
| 07:58.14 | CIA-14 | 03darchon * r47933 10Threat-1.0/Threat-1.0/NPCModules/FirewingWarlock.lua: Threat-1.0: koKR Update |
| 07:58.26 | SaladFork | wtf |
| 07:58.28 | asmodai | And elad_shahar can't be used? |
| 07:58.37 | SaladFork | Oooh, good idea |
| 07:58.43 | ckknight | SaladFork, try eladshahar |
| 07:58.52 | SaladFork | I did, also taken |
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| 07:58.58 | SaladFork | as for the underscore |
| 07:58.59 | SaladFork | Sorry, only letters (a-z), numbers (0-9), and periods (.) are allowed. |
| 07:59.05 | SaladFork | wtf |
| 07:59.10 | asmodai | mmm |
| 07:59.12 | SaladFork | my CAPTCHA was "AnNoyeD" |
| 07:59.23 | Arrowmaster | lol |
| 07:59.27 | Recluse | last.first@gmail.com? |
| 07:59.27 | asmodai | It reads minds! |
| 07:59.29 | SaladFork | EladShahar is not available, but the following usernames are: |
| 07:59.31 | SaladFork | Elad.Shahar is not available, but the following usernames are: |
| 07:59.31 | SaladFork | =( |
| 07:59.37 | SaladFork | Recluse - let me try |
| 07:59.38 | asmodai | Recluse: Makes it asian-proof to boot :) |
| 07:59.54 | Recluse | lol |
| 07:59.55 | SaladFork | Shahar.Elad is not available, but the following usernames are: |
| 07:59.56 | SaladFork | wtf |
| 07:59.59 | SaladFork | I bet this is all one guy |
| 08:00.01 | SaladFork | Just fucking with me |
| 08:00.19 | asmodai | Maybe you did it yourself while drunk and don't remember? :) |
| 08:00.25 | SaladFork | I wouldn't be surprised if my CAPTCHA was "GiVe uP" |
| 08:00.29 | SaladFork | asmodai - I thought i may have |
| 08:00.47 | SaladFork | I so did a search on all my Gmail accounts for "has been created", which shows up in the gmail creation email |
| 08:00.53 | SaladFork | I found 6-7 accounts I know I had, 2 I forgot about |
| 08:00.57 | SaladFork | but none with my real name |
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| 08:01.30 | Arrowmaster | ive only got one gmail account |
| 08:01.44 | SaladFork | ShaharElad is not available, but the following usernames are: |
| 08:01.47 | SaladFork | Elad is not available, but the following usernames are: |
| 08:01.49 | SaladFork | Shahar is not available, but the following usernames are: |
| 08:01.50 | SaladFork | BS |
| 08:01.54 | SaladFork | eshahar is not available, but the following usernames are: |
| 08:01.56 | SaladFork | gahhhh |
| 08:01.57 | Arrowmaster | never bothered to make one using my name instead of my alias since ive got my own domain for that |
| 08:02.09 | SaladFork | Arrow - Yeah, but this is for school purposes |
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| 08:02.20 | *** mode/#wowace [+v Wobin_] by ChanServ |
| 08:02.22 | SaladFork | Because my STUPID school webmail program doesn't correctly filter the From: line |
| 08:02.36 | SaladFork | the.real.elad.shahar |
| 08:02.39 | SaladFork | Nah, not going to try it |
| 08:03.07 | nevcairiel | i bet your name is blacklisted or something :P |
| 08:03.10 | SaladFork | WTF |
| 08:03.12 | SaladFork | I tried eshahar |
| 08:03.16 | SaladFork | here are the 4 recommended names |
| 08:03.19 | SaladFork | shaharelad0 |
| 08:03.22 | SaladFork | s.is.elad0 |
| 08:03.24 | SaladFork | eladshahar1 |
| 08:03.27 | SaladFork | ableconscious.904189 |
| 08:03.28 | SaladFork | wtf?! |
| 08:03.31 | Arrowmaster | haha |
| 08:03.31 | nevcairiel | lol |
| 08:03.38 | nevcairiel | i like the last one |
| 08:03.43 | Arrowmaster | yeah really |
| 08:03.44 | CIA-14 | 03ammo 07Alpha * r47934 10Ace3/ (11 files in 5 dirs): Ace3: non-working Alpha containing tests and ideas. |
| 08:04.10 | Arrowmaster | just go with the 3rd one |
| 08:04.16 | SaladFork | WOOT |
| 08:04.18 | SaladFork | Finally made one |
| 08:04.23 | SaladFork | it's not nearly as good a name as I could have wanted |
| 08:04.25 | SaladFork | But it'll do |
| 08:04.31 | orionshock | whats teh addon that supresses skill CD errors from the UI Error frame? |
| 08:04.47 | Arrowmaster | errormonster |
| 08:04.48 | SaladFork | ErrorMonster |
| 08:04.52 | orionshock | there we go.. |
| 08:05.00 | asmodai | ckknight: Heh, now to configure the gui with bartender. But seems to be what I am aiming for. |
| 08:05.57 | Recluse | you can't run two instances of bartender (under different namespaces) could you? |
| 08:06.07 | orionshock | could but why? |
| 08:06.42 | orionshock | use flexbar or infinitybar |
| 08:06.57 | Arrowmaster | i dont think its possible, would probably be too much work to even be able to try it |
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| 08:07.21 | Recluse | 1. for some classes, i'm a button whore and end up with 120 commands on screen and still have to open my spellbook/macros/bag for certain things |
| 08:07.48 | orionshock | use flexbar or infinitybar |
| 08:08.07 | orionshock | bartender uses the 120 action buttons, flexbar and inifBar don't |
| 08:08.13 | Recluse | 2. sometimes i have need for bars with just one or two buttons - the other buttons from that bar could be better served on other bars. bartender eats em up |
| 08:09.00 | nevcairiel | thats how bartender workd .. if you need more flexibility, use bongos or whatever :) |
| 08:09.14 | asmodai | Well, that's the sucky thing with being a shaman |
| 08:09.26 | asmodai | numen is nice, but when you're doing a battleground |
| 08:10.14 | asmodai | Oh btw, anyone know why in Nihilum's video against Illidan his portrait seems to be animated? |
| 08:10.25 | asmodai | Is that an AddOn? |
| 08:10.29 | Recluse | my hunter would be so much happier if i could have 200 or so buttons XD and btw i hate blizzard for breaking the ability to create and store 64 macros per character |
| 08:10.32 | CIA-14 | 03darchon * r47935 10CCBreaker/ (. Locale-koKR.lua): |
| 08:10.32 | CIA-14 | CCBreaker: |
| 08:10.33 | CIA-14 | - koKR Update |
| 08:10.33 | CIA-14 | - add tsvn:logtemplate |
| 08:10.40 | nevcairiel | every mob can have animated protratis with the right mod |
| 08:10.40 | Sole | pretty sure we can set #buttons per bar on bartender now |
| 08:10.57 | Sole | Recluse: how in the hell do you need 200 buttons? |
| 08:11.01 | orionshock | sole - we can but they are not reused |
| 08:11.13 | orionshock | it locked at 10 bars 12 each |
| 08:11.32 | Sole | Ive played every class and Ive never used as many buttons as some people claim |
| 08:11.38 | Sole | orionshock: true that |
| 08:12.12 | SaladFork | Yeah, bartender's been more than enough for me |
| 08:12.21 | SaladFork | And that's even for my druid |
| 08:12.22 | Recluse | sole: i have a ton of macros and like to have usable bag items on a bar somewhere (my paladin keeps several ranks of heals at the ready for example) - autobar has helped a lot, but still |
| 08:12.25 | asmodai | nevcairiel: Such as? |
| 08:12.31 | SaladFork | Which takes 2 bars per form (because of paging) |
| 08:12.43 | SaladFork | asmodai - X-Perl does it |
| 08:12.49 | SaladFork | AFTTE does it |
| 08:13.00 | Sole | Pitbull/AGUF do it |
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| 08:13.18 | asmodai | Cheers. |
| 08:13.40 | Arrowmaster | can do it with default frames too using a mod, called adapt i think |
| 08:13.47 | asmodai | Mmm, bar 3 and bar 4 seem to be vertical, can bartender make them horizontal and am I not seeing that option? |
| 08:14.02 | orionshock | number of columns |
| 08:14.18 | asmodai | oh duh |
| 08:14.20 | orionshock | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:14.24 | Sole | Recluse: do you have EVERY item on your bars or something because keeping multiple ranks of heals takes up an extra 15-20 buttons max |
| 08:14.26 | Recluse | yes, bartender can go vertical |
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| 08:14.51 | cncfanatics | yo all |
| 08:15.00 | ckknight | hey cncfanatics |
| 08:15.02 | asmodai | Yeah, but correlating verticalness to being 1 column of multiple rows is obvious of course. Just expected a simple horizontal/vertical toggle... xD |
| 08:15.08 | orionshock | hi |
| 08:15.12 | cncfanatics | could I know how yesterday's convo ended ? :p |
| 08:15.22 | ckknight | cncfanatics, what convo was that? |
| 08:15.30 | Sole | hey cnc |
| 08:15.39 | orionshock | :D i poke ppl in the eye for shits and giggles |
| 08:15.42 | cncfanatics | the one about Ace3/Joker & Kaelten |
| 08:15.46 | ckknight | ~rock |
| 08:15.47 | purl | from memory, rock is an addon framework written from scratch with the hindsight of Ace2, Dongle, Cosmos, and all the other addon frameworks for WoW out there. http://wowace.com/wiki/Rock |
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| 08:16.19 | asmodai | orionshock: They might hook you if you keep that up :P |
| 08:16.37 | orionshock | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:17.15 | asmodai | heh |
| 08:17.15 | cncfanatics | heh, I hope Rock will stop taking 25% of my mem usage like Ace2 does :) |
| 08:17.19 | ckknight | oh yea |
| 08:17.23 | asmodai | orionshock: geek++ :P |
| 08:17.25 | ckknight | Rock is a lot better for that |
| 08:17.47 | orionshock | asmodai: what does that //mean// |
| 08:17.58 | SaladFork | asmodai - You know geekcode? |
| 08:18.00 | NickNock | So there will be no Ace3 but Rock instead? |
| 08:18.08 | cncfanatics | NickNock, read ? |
| 08:18.13 | nevcairiel | there will be Ace3 |
| 08:18.16 | cncfanatics | "Rock is not Ace3, it is merely a prototype addon framework. At a later point in time, after proper community input and discussion, it is possible that it could become Ace3." |
| 08:18.30 | ckknight | that's becoming less likely, though |
| 08:18.48 | NickNock | Yeah i know |
| 08:19.06 | ckknight | either way, Rock's coming together really well, and I plan for a release soon |
| 08:19.38 | asmodai | SaladFork: yea |
| 08:19.39 | orionshock | um.. so who constitutes the "ace" community leadership? |
| 08:19.41 | SaladFork | Holy shit |
| 08:19.46 | SaladFork | I've never met anyone else who knew Geek Code, o_O |
| 08:19.50 | asmodai | SaladFork: And I rather am trying to forget it. |
| 08:19.53 | ckknight | orionshock, Kaelten, I suppose |
| 08:19.56 | SaladFork | XD |
| 08:20.02 | SaladFork | I put my geek code block in my FaceBook about me |
| 08:20.08 | asmodai | SaladFork: kirby and star trek designations *shudder* |
| 08:20.09 | ckknight | orionshock, Turan passed the torch onto him after he left (Ace1 era) |
| 08:20.25 | asmodai | mmm, bartender is making me feel giddy |
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| 08:21.23 | cncfanatics | why should there be a sole leader in the first place ? |
| 08:21.30 | ckknight | *shrug* |
| 08:21.30 | cncfanatics | Ace is a community, not a dictatorial regime |
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| 08:21.37 | asmodai | "It's what Linux does..." ;) |
| 08:21.56 | Kaelten | cncfanatics: because logically there has to be a head |
| 08:22.21 | ckknight | cncfanatics, basic difference between Rock and the nonexistent Ace3 is that Rock was designed by a chief architect (myself) and Ace3 is design-by-committee |
| 08:22.59 | Xinhuan | it really just sounds like a petty difference considering both frameworks will do the same thing |
| 08:23.00 | Recluse | sole: multiple spell ranks (depending on class)/other abilties/macros/gear that i need instant swaps on/1-2 current"Use:" quest items/food/pots/water/mounts/professions/tracking(based on class)/stance swap bars/and macros - tons of macros |
| 08:23.15 | ckknight | yep, Xinhuan, I agree |
| 08:23.21 | asmodai | There's a difference between being the principal architect or a leader. |
| 08:23.44 | asmodai | I prefer the principal architects. Less bullshit, more work. |
| 08:23.46 | ckknight | I have a unified vision about the project and its goals |
| 08:23.49 | asmodai | Agile development ftw |
| 08:24.02 | asmodai | Although using (R)UP at work ain't bad either. |
| 08:24.09 | ckknight | I was able to write an entire, full-fledged addon framework in about a month and a half |
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| 08:24.25 | orionshock | have u ever tried to do anything BIG by commitie? |
| 08:24.46 | orionshock | it blows, and in a bad dysfunctional way unless your a skilled diplomat |
| 08:24.47 | asmodai | orionshock: They did, it was the follow-up to RFC 1459 ;) |
| 08:24.53 | asmodai | (which does not exist :D) |
| 08:25.03 | ckknight | I don't feel like waiting 3 months to be able to work with a framework that I already built |
| 08:25.12 | ckknight | or however long it might take by committee |
| 08:25.38 | orionshock | tbh it's better this way |
| 08:26.01 | cncfanatics | I can't have an oppinion before I see some Ace3 & Rock benchmarks next to eachother : |
| 08:26.10 | cncfanatics | which might take, eh, a few months :) |
| 08:26.19 | ckknight | cncfanatics, Ace3 doesn't exist, it's just a bunch of ideas floating around right now |
| 08:26.30 | ckknight | and it's hard to benchmark addon frameworks |
| 08:26.30 | cncfanatics | I know ckk :p |
| 08:26.39 | ckknight | seeing as they're dependent on the addons |
| 08:26.44 | orionshock | one "leader" who is simply there to say yes this project will go this way or another, and others that contribute to it; the gist is a unified front that everyone can respect |
| 08:26.48 | Kaelten | yes so as a result of ck's unwillingness to work within the system that needs to in place, there will be two frameworks that are essentially the same in may aspects. |
| 08:27.27 | ckknight | on quite a few occasions, I have suggested having Joker (now Rock) be Ace3 and allowing everyone else to hack on it, as a community project, but was turned down because of hurt feelings |
| 08:27.32 | Sole | yes but we already have 1 of them, essentially ready for development |
| 08:27.47 | cncfanatics | Kaelten, it seems you dislike Rock, may I ask why , coding wise ? |
| 08:28.00 | ckknight | I just want to port my large addons over, see if it feels alright, and if it does, then Rock will essentially be released. |
| 08:28.13 | Kaelten | cncfanatics: you misunderstand me |
| 08:28.17 | Sole | Im curious, what will be the difference between Rock and Ace3? |
| 08:28.27 | Xinhuan | sole: almost none as far as i can tell |
| 08:28.29 | Sole | or is ace3 just being developed for the sake of it? |
| 08:28.32 | Kaelten | I don't agree with the design and methodology behind Rock. |
| 08:28.39 | cncfanatics | politics ... |
| 08:28.47 | ckknight | show me the code :-P |
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| 08:28.59 | Kaelten | if ck where to vanish right now we'd be in a hell of a pickle with Ace2 |
| 08:29.04 | Kaelten | it can't continue like that |
| 08:29.10 | ckknight | very true, but not Rock! |
| 08:29.17 | ckknight | since I documented and commented it up the wazoo |
| 08:29.22 | Fisker- | i was framed! |
| 08:29.27 | Kaelten | from what I've read its only slightly better as far as comprehension |
| 08:29.33 | Xinhuan | ck, the wiki isn't documented yet |
| 08:29.33 | Fisker- | fraaaaaaaaaaaaaaaameeeeeeeed |
| 08:29.34 | asmodai | Fisker-: With which addon? :P |
| 08:29.41 | Kaelten | not saying its not better |
| 08:29.41 | ckknight | Xinhuan, oh, cause I just renamed it, lemme fix that. |
| 08:29.54 | Fisker- | none asmodai? :I |
| 08:30.14 | ckknight | For God so loved the world that he didn't send a committee to save us. |
| 08:30.32 | Kaelten | boy isn't that a mixed metaphore |
| 08:30.41 | Wobin | Bah |
| 08:30.50 | ckknight | Kaelten, it's a funny quote |
| 08:30.51 | Wobin | The platypus -proves- that God is a committe |
| 08:30.57 | ckknight | lol, Wobin |
| 08:31.07 | orionshock | no just that he is funny |
| 08:31.29 | asmodai | egos-- |
| 08:31.50 | Wobin | any spanish speakers here? |
| 08:31.54 | asmodai | Wobin: Un poco. |
| 08:32.02 | ckknight | *shrug* How's this: I like Apple products. I like the unified feel of everything. I like how everything interacts with each other seamlessly. I honestly think that the autocratic nature of Steve Jobs has helped this, not hurt it |
| 08:32.02 | orionshock | google |
| 08:32.07 | Wobin | What would be the Spanish equivalent of the name Nicole? |
| 08:32.15 | art3mis | You can lead a horse to water but a pencil must be lead |
| 08:32.21 | ckknight | lol, art3mis |
| 08:32.26 | cncfanatics | Wobin: Maria-Nicole :p |
| 08:32.27 | asmodai | Wobin: Mmm, I think they also use Nicole in Spanish. |
| 08:32.30 | Wobin | You can lead a horse to water, but you can't make it enjoy the view. |
| 08:32.40 | Fisker- | he uses a mac, get him! |
| 08:32.42 | art3mis | A stich in time saves a lot of embarassment |
| 08:32.55 | Wobin | Some like to drown their sorrows, mine like to swim. |
| 08:32.59 | art3mis | may the force be your umbrella |
| 08:33.22 | asmodai | ckknight: Aye, it is unified (although I still curse them for not having updated their HID documentation). |
| 08:33.23 | Wobin | She's one in a million, therefore there are four just like her in New South Wales alone. |
| 08:33.33 | ckknight | asmodai, ugh, I agree |
| 08:33.44 | ckknight | lol, Wobin |
| 08:33.48 | Laric | so if I read this correctly there will be an Ace3 and a Rock at the same time die to the fact it is only Ck who knows Rock really? |
| 08:33.51 | Recluse | i got the mac itch, but haven't decided to scratch it yet |
| 08:34.01 | Laric | s/die/due |
| 08:34.01 | Wobin | Laric: Fairly much |
| 08:34.12 | ckknight | Laric, I documented Rock and have comments all through it, so in my opinion, it's relatively easy to understand |
| 08:34.13 | Wobin | Recluse: There's a cream for that |
| 08:34.19 | Recluse | rofl |
| 08:34.25 | ckknight | if someone doesn't understand a specific part, I'd be happy to tell you and comment it for everyone else |
| 08:34.34 | Sole | the Rock is pretty logical |
| 08:34.38 | Sole | Ive been reading it |
| 08:34.41 | Wobin | Haven't you seen his movies? |
| 08:34.45 | Wobin | He's damn logical |
| 08:34.54 | ckknight | I liked The Mummy Returns |
| 08:34.56 | orionshock | IMHO if u don't understand a good size of the code, you prolly shouldn't be using it just yet |
| 08:34.59 | Laric | if we keep this up we will have more frameworks in our addon folder than actual addons |
| 08:35.08 | Wobin | ckknight: bah, he was only computer generated in that, wasn't he? |
| 08:35.14 | Thezilch | When will Paper be released? |
| 08:35.16 | ckknight | half of him |
| 08:35.26 | ckknight | Thezilch, rock smashes paper |
| 08:35.36 | Wobin | Wasn't half his lines: *chitterchitter*? |
| 08:35.44 | Wobin | I can't recall if he actually spoke |
| 08:35.49 | ckknight | ugh, it's been a while |
| 08:36.14 | art3mis | Rock? |
| 08:36.20 | Xinhuan | it just means when Ace3 is released, i will have Ace3libs, Ace2libs and JokerLibs in my addon folders and have more libs than addons ^^ |
| 08:36.25 | ckknight | art3mis, I renamed Joker |
| 08:36.35 | art3mis | heh |
| 08:36.52 | sag_ich_nicht | morning |
| 08:36.55 | art3mis | so support libs are being named Hard Place? |
| 08:36.56 | asmodai | From what I gather from all the above: Rock exists now, Ace3 doesn;t |
| 08:36.58 | asmodai | Right, wrong? |
| 08:37.03 | ckknight | right |
| 08:37.06 | ckknight | Rock on, brother |
| 08:37.10 | Wobin | Rock smashes Scissors... |
| 08:37.12 | Fisker- | so it's the rock now? |
| 08:37.16 | ckknight | rock smashes all! |
| 08:37.16 | asmodai | That's what it boils down to. |
| 08:37.19 | Sole | I dont see anything fundamentally wrong with Rock except for the fact that it was written by 1 guy |
| 08:37.20 | Wobin | I don't know what whacky version of RPS you play =P |
| 08:37.24 | art3mis | paper beaats rock |
| 08:37.32 | asmodai | So in all fairness and having been in my share of open/public projects for the past 10 years |
| 08:37.34 | ckknight | with a sharp enough rock, it can slice up paper pretty bad. |
| 08:37.37 | Fisker- | no art3mis |
| 08:37.41 | Fisker- | rock tears through paper |
| 08:37.42 | art3mis | sole: in the case of librarys and such thats actually a good thing though |
| 08:37.43 | asmodai | Design by committee seldom produces code |
| 08:37.55 | asmodai | But a shitload of wasted time and no documents. Or documents and no code. |
| 08:37.56 | sag_ich_nicht | Antiarc you there? maybe you can reproduce the damn bug if you try with my interface :) |
| 08:37.57 | Fisker- | wtf is a paper going to do? |
| 08:38.00 | Wobin | It's being rewritten right now |
| 08:38.01 | Fisker- | give it papercuts? |
| 08:38.04 | art3mis | there arent any unknown code bits or syntax changes and the like |
| 08:38.06 | Fisker- | oh wait, it can't ITS A ROCK |
| 08:38.19 | art3mis | Fisker-: what if its an orgami rock? |
| 08:38.23 | ckknight | asmodai, when I was writing Ace2 (well, most of it), I made a lot of decisions on my own. I just figured that this would be an extension of that |
| 08:38.25 | Fisker- | it's not |
| 08:38.29 | art3mis | priove it |
| 08:38.31 | art3mis | prove it |
| 08:38.32 | ckknight | seeing as people didn't really seem to mind about Ace2 |
| 08:38.34 | art3mis | mathetmatically |
| 08:38.44 | ckknight | and without my code, it would've been delayed pretty much indefinitely |
| 08:38.45 | asmodai | ckknight: Ace2 seems to work for me right now. All AddOns hook in neatly in Fubar. |
| 08:38.46 | [Liquidor] | What the hell? Rock? Is that a new name for Joker or is it an entirely new project again? :) |
| 08:38.56 | ckknight | rename |
| 08:39.10 | art3mis | ckk |
| 08:39.16 | Fisker- | sarcasm is funnier |
| 08:39.20 | art3mis | you need to pick someone to name your projects for you ;) |
| 08:39.27 | Thezilch | Indeed. |
| 08:39.37 | art3mis | i vote nighthawk ;P |
| 08:39.40 | orionshock | well he did ask in IRC like 4 hrs ago |
| 08:39.46 | Sole | I vote nighthawk or fisker |
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| 08:39.47 | orionshock | where where you? |
| 08:39.54 | Sole | I vote nighthawk + fisker |
| 08:40.13 | art3mis | orionshock: those would be suggestions, not the single abilkity to name it and ckk has to abide by that regardless of his personal preferences ;P |
| 08:40.20 | Pkekyo | anyone know how often WoWjutsu is updated? |
| 08:40.29 | asmodai | Pkekyo: Seems pretty often |
| 08:40.35 | ckknight | art3mis, Rock wasn't my idea |
| 08:40.41 | ckknight | it was Pprovost's |
| 08:40.43 | ckknight | blame him |
| 08:40.46 | asmodai | So we have Fire, Earth, Sea, Rock |
| 08:40.49 | ckknight | the name, I mean |
| 08:40.49 | art3mis | Penii: the Action Bar Collection |
| 08:40.55 | Xinhuan | i suggested Ice |
| 08:40.57 | orionshock | fire? |
| 08:40.59 | Xinhuan | but ck didn't like that |
| 08:41.01 | orionshock | there is a Fire Framework? |
| 08:41.05 | asmodai | orionshock: Cosmos thinghy |
| 08:41.05 | sag_ich_nicht | asmodai but fire isn't a lib, it's a table viewer |
| 08:41.08 | ckknight | orionshock, Cosmos lib |
| 08:41.12 | sag_ich_nicht | maybe you mean FireTree? :O |
| 08:41.13 | Wobin | asmodai: I dunno, our guild is only just on there, and even then the details aren't really correct =( |
| 08:41.22 | art3mis | ckknight: i will, rock is a rather dumb name to be honest |
| 08:41.24 | asmodai | sag_ich_nicht: Sorry, I meant it more like taken... ;) |
| 08:41.24 | orionshock | >.> those ppl over there need to pull their head out of their ass |
| 08:41.34 | Wobin | By Your Powers Combined... |
| 08:41.37 | Wobin | oh wait |
| 08:41.39 | Wobin | we need HEART |
| 08:41.41 | art3mis | you should have called it Alexandria ;P |
| 08:41.49 | sag_ich_nicht | Wobin maybe someone should rename dongle |
| 08:41.50 | sag_ich_nicht | :P |
| 08:41.57 | art3mis | dongle is a perfect name |
| 08:42.11 | sag_ich_nicht | art3mis you are missing the joke |
| 08:42.14 | Wobin | Aside from the memories of nudging the dongle wrong and snapping it off |
| 08:42.17 | orionshock | meah , wth, i follow authors and computer performance |
| 08:42.19 | art3mis | you muck with it long enough and it becomes harder and harder, given a bit of time it'll fuck ya ;P |
| 08:42.30 | sag_ich_nicht | lol |
| 08:42.35 | [Liquidor] | sag_ich_nicht, which is? |
| 08:42.41 | [Liquidor] | Cause I don't get the joke with "Rock" |
| 08:42.48 | sag_ich_nicht | ~wiki Captain Planet |
| 08:42.53 | art3mis | sag_ich_nicht: not to mention when it errors is spits out LOTS of errors ;P |
| 08:43.13 | sag_ich_nicht | ~wiki Captain Planet and the Planeteers |
| 08:43.14 | sag_ich_nicht | fixed |
| 08:43.22 | art3mis | [Liquidor]: im not sure it IS a joke |
| 08:43.25 | ckknight | art3mis, Rock is small, easy to spell, good to the ear, easy to remember, it also has a lot of euphemisms about it, e.g. it's a foundation, tough as a rock, solid, etc. |
| 08:43.27 | art3mis | and that makes me sad |
| 08:43.49 | [Liquidor] | ckknight, but how is it solid? |
| 08:43.50 | SaladFork | Long story short |
| 08:43.51 | SaladFork | It rocks. |
| 08:43.58 | sag_ich_nicht | Wobin/asmodai also we miss wind |
| 08:43.59 | art3mis | it was a wrestler, its have of a rock and ahard palce(thus denoting a difficult situation) |
| 08:43.59 | ckknight | [Liquidor], it'll rock your world, man |
| 08:44.00 | sag_ich_nicht | >:O |
| 08:44.00 | [Liquidor] | 4-5 months and we will see a new framework anyway, is that solid? |
| 08:44.09 | art3mis | have == half |
| 08:44.32 | ckknight | [Liquidor], um, there's a new framework now, that works and is solid |
| 08:44.34 | Fisker- | do one have to be in booty bay when the fishing contest start? |
| 08:44.42 | art3mis | nope |
| 08:44.51 | art3mis | just gotta fish the pools |
| 08:44.59 | art3mis | during the time |
| 08:45.06 | [Liquidor] | and use the npc |
| 08:45.07 | SaladFork | I almost won once |
| 08:45.12 | sag_ich_nicht | i will not fish until patch 2.2. |
| 08:45.16 | SaladFork | I hit 40 fish (or whatever the needed amount is) |
| 08:45.20 | SaladFork | Then hearthed to BB |
| 08:45.30 | SaladFork | But then remembered my heathrtsone was set to Shatt right after I did it |
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| 08:45.36 | ckknight | and I've really not seen any evidence of Ace3 coming to fruition, as I'm not a believer in design-by-committee projects |
| 08:45.37 | art3mis | sag_ich_nicht: why? |
| 08:45.39 | SaladFork | And then 2 minutes later my friend said "Damn, someone won" |
| 08:45.40 | SaladFork | sag_ich_nicht - why? |
| 08:45.54 | sag_ich_nicht | because it's bugged right now |
| 08:46.00 | SaladFork | Um, no it's not |
| 08:46.03 | art3mis | no its not |
| 08:46.04 | ckknight | they're just too prone to issues such as inconsistency, banality, and a lack of unifying vision |
| 08:46.05 | sag_ich_nicht | um, it is. |
| 08:46.07 | art3mis | dumb dumb |
| 08:46.10 | SaladFork | How is it bugged? |
| 08:46.10 | art3mis | how is it bugged? |
| 08:46.32 | Pkekyo | asmodai: I beg to differ...has only been updated like...once for my guild |
| 08:46.52 | sag_ich_nicht | the bobber fades away just the moment the fish gets on, and you can't click it no matter how hard you try, it's a confirmed bug, go check the forums yourself if you don't believe me >_< |
| 08:47.03 | art3mis | ckknight: but to be honest soemtimes your ideas arent the best choice |
| 08:47.12 | Sole | name one |
| 08:47.19 | sag_ich_nicht | art3mis point is he DOES something |
| 08:47.20 | ckknight | art3mis, and I'm completely willing to accept that, which is why I've been asking people for advice |
| 08:47.23 | art3mis | pitbull as a raid frame ;P |
| 08:47.28 | SaladFork | sag_ich_nicht - I've honestly never had that problem |
| 08:47.31 | art3mis | tada! |
| 08:47.34 | ckknight | art3mis, lol, I will not deny. |
| 08:47.35 | art3mis | ;) |
| 08:47.36 | sag_ich_nicht | well, i do, all the time. |
| 08:47.40 | SaladFork | And I powerleved my fishing from 180 to 294 yesterday |
| 08:47.42 | Sole | ok thats true :P |
| 08:47.49 | ckknight | though I used PitBull in AV 2 days ago, worked fine |
| 08:47.50 | art3mis | i agree that commitee libs suck |
| 08:47.53 | SaladFork | And TBH, I don't recall anything in 2.2 mentioning fishing |
| 08:47.55 | ckknight | but srsly, use Grid etc. |
| 08:48.05 | sag_ich_nicht | SaladFork: maybe they missed it, but the bug IS there. |
| 08:48.06 | art3mis | actually i dont even know why im seeming to be arguing it |
| 08:48.12 | sag_ich_nicht | no |
| 08:48.14 | sag_ich_nicht | grid is the devil |
| 08:48.14 | art3mis | i just think the name sucks |
| 08:48.19 | [Liquidor] | I'm more into simplicity than functionality/flexibility |
| 08:48.24 | sag_ich_nicht | hail RDX^WConspiracy |
| 08:48.26 | art3mis | if the lib actually results in decent addons who cares ;P |
| 08:48.50 | SaladFork | art3mis - I was against the name too |
| 08:48.52 | SaladFork | Still am, kinda |
| 08:48.54 | art3mis | but for gods sake pelase PROMISE ME, that it will only register as Rock 1.0 and not 45+ rock entries |
| 08:48.57 | SaladFork | But like all new names, they take time to grow on you |
| 08:48.57 | Fisker- | LOL |
| 08:49.03 | ckknight | art3mis, LibRock-1.0 |
| 08:49.05 | Fisker- | ah sniping couldn't be easier with Bottomscanner |
| 08:49.06 | Recluse | initial commit we need a /libs/ subdir, just empty correct? |
| 08:49.06 | [Liquidor] | Btw what's with RDX anyway ? I mean, what does RDX have which other projects dont? I've never used it before and cba |
| 08:49.13 | ckknight | Recluse, true. |
| 08:49.23 | sag_ich_nicht | [Liquidor] well, depends which RDX you're talking about |
| 08:49.27 | ckknight | art3mis, what do you mean 45+ rock entries? |
| 08:49.32 | art3mis | [Liquidor]: cid and shir are working on a new rdx thingy |
| 08:49.35 | ckknight | there's 9 core rock libs total |
| 08:49.35 | sag_ich_nicht | RDX.Cid is discontinued/being rewritten from scratch |
| 08:49.39 | Recluse | ckk: the faq on that in the wiki was kinda dodgy hehe |
| 08:49.41 | art3mis | ckknight: all the modules that pitbull has |
| 08:51.04 | [Liquidor] | Well there you go, I didn't even know there was diff. types of RDX. |
| 08:51.04 | sag_ich_nicht | if you talk about RDX6... well |
| 08:51.04 | sag_ich_nicht | let me show you what RDX6 is about |
| 08:51.05 | art3mis | i know they're nessesary sorta, but as a base lib that would be hideous |
| 08:51.05 | sag_ich_nicht | http://www.rdx-raid.com/ |
| 08:51.05 | art3mis | ckknight: in the addon list i mean |
| 08:51.05 | art3mis | im more curious how conspiracy is gonna turn out than i care about rdx |
| 08:51.05 | ckknight | art3mis, oh, lol, they'll be in the lib section |
| 08:51.14 | ckknight | but 9 total rock libs |
| 08:51.38 | art3mis | jsut list em as 1 ;) it's not like there are gonna be parts that you "shouldnt" have ;P |
| 08:52.02 | sag_ich_nicht | RDX6 is pretty awesome, but the fact that it costs money is retarded |
| 08:52.08 | art3mis | hows the colour picker thingy coming btw? |
| 08:52.12 | SaladFork | art3mis - I still think the idea of paying to download WoW addons is ridiculous |
| 08:52.15 | art3mis | its cost money for over a year |
| 08:52.16 | ckknight | art3mis, done |
| 08:52.22 | SaladFork | ESPECIALLY considering how many alternatives there are |
| 08:52.23 | art3mis | ckknight: thanks mang |
| 08:52.32 | art3mis | rdx.cid was the alternative |
| 08:52.57 | [Liquidor] | I still don't get it... |
| 08:53.00 | art3mis | SaladFork: yup so did lots of people |
| 08:53.02 | [Liquidor] | What does RDX have that others dont? |
| 08:53.05 | ckknight | art3mis, nah, I don't want to have one big god object, there are some things some addons don't need, so they wouldn't be included in core |
| 08:53.07 | [Liquidor] | That's my intial question. |
| 08:53.09 | ckknight | [Liquidor], *shrug* |
| 08:53.16 | art3mis | you werent paying for the addon you were paying for the forums that just happen to contain the addon |
| 08:53.19 | ckknight | art3mis, also, it makes it easier to manage with multiple libs |
| 08:53.32 | SaladFork | Whoever said, "Nothing is impossible," obviously never tried to slam a revolving door. |
| 08:53.43 | ckknight | lol |
| 08:54.04 | art3mis | rdx's main feature now is the ability to push "patches" scripts and layouts so the whole guild looks the same |
| 08:54.16 | art3mis | at the time it was nicer than ctra |
| 08:54.36 | art3mis | better layout easier to configure had boss mods etc etc etc |
| 08:54.51 | [Liquidor] | you mean lua execution by data exchange? |
| 08:55.17 | sag_ich_nicht | [Liquidor] full blown RPC, actually |
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| 08:55.23 | art3mis | ckknight: true but at the end of the day, you're gonna need all the core libs eventually, so why not just have them there, if they arent loaded big deal, but at least you cant accidently disable it ;P |
| 08:55.35 | art3mis | [Liquidor]: yeah |
| 08:55.43 | ckknight | if you accidentally disable, they become reenabled |
| 08:55.49 | SaladFork | lolwtf |
| 08:55.52 | SaladFork | WoW plays you |
| 08:55.57 | ckknight | also, it's easier for me and other developers to have multiple |
| 08:56.16 | sag_ich_nicht | it's still nicer than all other raid addons, imho, but paying for it is not worth it, thus i'm waiting for conspiracy because i liked RDX |
| 08:56.21 | art3mis | shrug its more a personaly choice for a lot of people really. i dislike having a ton of "support" addons listed there |
| 08:57.02 | art3mis | it's too bad they dont list as heading->subheading |
| 08:57.03 | ckknight | run embedded if you want |
| 08:57.28 | art3mis | so you can have a bunch of fubar crap and expand FuBar and under it you see all the fubar plugins |
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| 08:57.45 | art3mis | i do now |
| 08:57.49 | SaladFork | art3mis - ACP does that |
| 08:58.00 | art3mis | but sometimes itll download stuff thats not a dep but it still needs |
| 08:58.05 | art3mis | acp? |
| 08:58.08 | Fisker- | you want cakes? |
| 08:58.11 | SaladFork | Addon Control Panel |
| 08:58.13 | Fisker- | where's the best place to fish btw? |
| 08:58.18 | art3mis | tanaris |
| 08:58.21 | Fisker- | up at the west coast or the east coast? |
| 08:58.22 | art3mis | and zangmarsh |
| 08:58.22 | Fisker- | duh |
| 08:58.24 | Fisker- | in the fishing event |
| 08:58.25 | SaladFork | Fisker - that would depend what you're trying to catch |
| 08:58.28 | SaladFork | Oh |
| 08:58.30 | art3mis | either or |
| 08:58.35 | SaladFork | I go east side personally |
| 08:58.41 | SaladFork | My friend casts waterwalking and goes left side |
| 08:58.42 | art3mis | most people dont go east cost though because of the giants |
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| 08:58.46 | SaladFork | Let's him get to certain pools others can't |
| 08:59.07 | sag_ich_nicht | skill rate is the same everywhere, so just go fish in stormwind, because there you'll catch the one ring :O |
| 08:59.41 | art3mis | laugh |
| 08:59.41 | SaladFork | art3mis - http://www.wowace.com/wiki/ACP |
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| 09:00.39 | art3mis | oooo |
| 09:00.42 | art3mis | thanks salad |
| 09:00.46 | SaladFork | WTF |
| 09:00.49 | SaladFork | Everytime I open WAU |
| 09:00.52 | SaladFork | It opens Microsoft Debugger |
| 09:00.54 | art3mis | thats ingame right? |
| 09:00.57 | SaladFork | art - yep |
| 09:01.11 | SaladFork | Gah |
| 09:01.14 | SaladFork | WAU = dying |
| 09:01.24 | SaladFork | o_O |
| 09:01.34 | SaladFork | http://files.wowace.com/ads.html |
| 09:01.35 | sag_ich_nicht | heh |
| 09:01.36 | SaladFork | That's what's crashing it |
| 09:01.49 | sag_ich_nicht | i still run 1.9.24.429 |
| 09:01.58 | sag_ich_nicht | and yes i'm a selfish prick :O |
| 09:02.08 | SaladFork | I don't get it |
| 09:02.13 | SaladFork | Is that the last one before adds were added? |
| 09:02.17 | sag_ich_nicht | yes |
| 09:02.30 | SaladFork | Let me grab that one then |
| 09:02.42 | SaladFork | I don't mind ignoring the adds |
| 09:02.44 | Warloxx | does enyone know why the sortfunction f can get nil as first parameter by executing somthing like this? table.sort({"fasad","afsfa","afasfas,"asasfa"},f) |
| 09:02.47 | SaladFork | But when they freaking crash the program |
| 09:03.42 | ckknight | Warloxx, because you did something where alpha ~= alpha. basically, if you have a <=, change it to < |
| 09:03.45 | SaladFork | Thanks sag, I downgraded and it's working again |
| 09:03.51 | sag_ich_nicht | np |
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| 09:04.09 | SaladFork | holy shit |
| 09:04.11 | SaladFork | it's 5am |
| 09:04.13 | SaladFork | Goodnight guys |
| 09:04.16 | ckknight | cya |
| 09:04.16 | sag_ich_nicht | night |
| 09:05.14 | SaladFork | ~saladfork |
| 09:05.23 | SaladFork | hmm |
| 09:05.26 | ckknight | make your own |
| 09:05.29 | SaladFork | purl, saladfork is asleep |
| 09:05.30 | purl | okay, SaladFork |
| 09:05.34 | SaladFork | =D |
| 09:05.35 | ckknight | ~saladform |
| 09:05.38 | ckknight | ~saladfork |
| 09:05.39 | purl | it has been said that saladfork is asleep |
| 09:05.41 | SaladFork | XD |
| 09:05.42 | SaladFork | Perfect |
| 09:05.43 | SaladFork | goodnight |
| 09:05.51 | Warloxx | but f returns a<b |
| 09:05.58 | ckknight | Warloxx, weird... |
| 09:06.04 | ckknight | pastey your code |
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| 09:07.29 | sag_ich_nicht | btw. ckknight question before i try cowtip, how does it handle input from addons that modify the blizzard default tooltip? |
| 09:07.44 | ckknight | yes. |
| 09:07.46 | ckknight | should work fine |
| 09:07.50 | sag_ich_nicht | okay |
| 09:07.56 | ckknight | ~joker |
| 09:08.08 | ckknight | purl, joker is <reply>see rock |
| 09:08.08 | purl | okay, ckknight |
| 09:08.10 | ckknight | ~joker |
| 09:08.11 | purl | rock is, like, an addon framework written from scratch with the hindsight of Ace2, Dongle, Cosmos, and all the other addon frameworks for WoW out there. http://wowace.com/wiki/Rock |
| 09:10.28 | sag_ich_nicht | AnduinLothar i am too lazy to change channels, what is it with all the .toc updates? |
| 09:11.47 | Warloxx | http://ace.pastey.net/73282 |
| 09:12.38 | [Liquidor] | http://wowace.com/wiki/Rock#I.27m_scared_Ckknight_is_going_to_get_hit_by_a_bus_and_no_one_will_be_able_to_maintain_Rock |
| 09:12.38 | [Liquidor] | rofl |
| 09:13.01 | ckknight | it's a legitimate concern |
| 09:13.11 | sag_ich_nicht | lol |
| 09:13.13 | sag_ich_nicht | yes. |
| 09:13.18 | Fisker- | i'm only scared about the maintaining stuff |
| 09:13.19 | Fisker- | :P |
| 09:13.24 | asmodai | The bus factor. |
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| 09:14.12 | asmodai | http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Bus+Factor&defid=2567376 |
| 09:14.49 | [Liquidor] | heh |
| 09:14.58 | [Liquidor] | anyway gonna watch a movie and go to bed |
| 09:14.59 | [Liquidor] | nn |
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| 09:15.24 | [Liquidor] | ckknight, still missing AceArt ! |
| 09:15.31 | sag_ich_nicht | the only reason why linux has a bus factor of 1 is because then there would be nobody besides theo de raadt to flame RMS |
| 09:15.43 | ckknight | [Liquidor], ? |
| 09:15.55 | ckknight | lol, sag_ich_nicht |
| 09:16.01 | art3mis | http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=canadian+flag&i=1 |
| 09:16.09 | sag_ich_nicht | ckknight you know i'm right |
| 09:16.11 | sag_ich_nicht | >.> |
| 09:16.25 | art3mis | Canadian: "You Americans are hated so much in Europe that you sew Canadian flags on your backpack, eh?" |
| 09:16.25 | art3mis | American: "That'd be a waste of time even if we did it, because they can tell we aren't Canadian by the fact that we are actually wearing clothes that aren't plaid or jean jackets." |
| 09:16.48 | ckknight | lol |
| 09:16.56 | Sole | lol |
| 09:16.59 | sag_ich_nicht | lol |
| 09:24.35 | sag_ich_nicht | heh, i wonder how much aggro a death knight tank could create dualwielding thunderfury and one of the warglaives |
| 09:25.22 | asmodai | I am still trying to fit the DK into either a Horde or Alliance team... |
| 09:25.27 | sag_ich_nicht | (yeah i know, now you know your time as tank is pretty much over.) |
| 09:25.29 | asmodai | Just does not compute... |
| 09:25.39 | sag_ich_nicht | asmodai the same could be said about warlocks. |
| 09:25.52 | sag_ich_nicht | even more so, actually. |
| 09:25.54 | asmodai | Yeah, but you see them being treated as outcasts a bit, depending on the race. |
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| 09:27.17 | CIA-14 | 03kaelten 07Alpha * r47936 10Ace3/AceAddon-3.0/AceAddon-3.0.lua: |
| 09:27.17 | CIA-14 | Ace3 - |
| 09:27.17 | CIA-14 | - Added two iterators |
| 09:27.17 | CIA-14 | - Added EmbedLibrary |
| 09:27.17 | CIA-14 | - Rewrote and restructured portions. |
| 09:27.19 | asmodai | mmm, seems the mining addon of cartographer has (almost) no Azuremyst/Bloodmyst data, guess I need to share my stuff |
| 09:27.21 | neenee | Is anyone here using Auctioneer without problems? |
| 09:27.40 | asmodai | neenee: Aye, and even using the Advanced test on |
| 09:27.40 | asmodai | one |
| 09:28.08 | neenee | ok |
| 09:28.12 | neenee | Was just wondering if it was me then |
| 09:28.16 | sag_ich_nicht | aye, but not using advanced public preview |
| 09:28.19 | neenee | for some reason I have a lot of problems with it |
| 09:28.27 | neenee | I'll try disabling all my addons again |
| 09:28.27 | sag_ich_nicht | well maybe you should update it |
| 09:28.34 | sag_ich_nicht | or tell us the problem |
| 09:28.49 | neenee | I tried both that public preview, the 4.0.4 release and the 4.0.4 latest |
| 09:29.44 | neenee | It's probably just a conflicing addon I'm using which I need to replace with something else. |
| 09:29.46 | neenee | It usually is |
| 09:30.08 | CIA-14 | 03ckknight * r47937 10/trunk/ (10 files in 10 dirs): .LibRock*-1.0 - touching files so the wiki will update |
| 09:30.29 | Fisker- | so wasn't Joker/Rock supposed to be Ace3? |
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| 09:31.11 | sag_ich_nicht | neenee you still did not tell us the problem. |
| 09:31.17 | CIA-14 | 03recluse * r47938 10TextSpy/ (18 files in 8 dirs): |
| 09:31.17 | CIA-14 | TextSpy: initial import |
| 09:31.17 | CIA-14 | - Audio alerts for user defined chatbox text searches. |
| 09:32.37 | Kaelten | Fisker-: Ace shouldn't have a busfactor of 1 |
| 09:32.37 | art3mis | i love thier logic behind the death knight too |
| 09:32.50 | art3mis | "we didnt want to add more than 1 hero class to avoid imbalance" |
| 09:32.52 | neenee | Well, this isn't an Auctioneer support channel, so I expect people will just point me to wherever Auctioneer support is, like their forums. |
| 09:33.18 | Kaelten | I think its #norganna |
| 09:33.28 | art3mis | neenee, chance are thier forum if it exists or norgs channel ;P |
| 09:33.28 | neenee | Like that ;) |
| 09:34.08 | art3mis | Kaelten: you actually starting on Ace of Hearts? |
| 09:34.20 | ckknight | Kaelten, Fisker-, and it doesn't, as I explain in the wiki: http://wowace.com/wiki/Rock#I.27m_scared_Ckknight_is_going_to_get_hit_by_a_bus_and_no_one_will_be_able_to_maintain_Rock |
| 09:34.22 | Kaelten | Ace of Hearts? |
| 09:34.24 | Kaelten | lol |
| 09:34.52 | art3mis | Ace == Ace of Clubs, Ace2 == Ace of Diamonds, Ace3 == Ace of Spades(sorry), Ace4 == Ace of Hearts ;) |
| 09:35.05 | art3mis | Ace3 codename Motorhead! |
| 09:35.08 | art3mis | heh |
| 09:35.49 | Fisker- | i'm a busfactor of 10 |
| 09:36.04 | CIA-14 | 03athou * r47939 10FuBar_RaidBuffFu/ (FuBar_RaidBuffFu.lua localization.lua): |
| 09:36.05 | CIA-14 | FuBar_RaidBuffFu: |
| 09:36.05 | CIA-14 | - you can now add any number of buffnames for each Buff, but you'll probably have to delete your savedvariables |
| 09:36.11 | Kaelten | ckknight: and I should be able to figure out how the mediaservers have managed not to go crap up over the last 9 months |
| 09:36.22 | art3mis | hehe **runs off to edit USER:CKKnight |
| 09:36.27 | ckknight | :-P |
| 09:36.30 | ckknight | make it nice, art3mis |
| 09:36.46 | art3mis | that would require me to have a login ;) |
| 09:37.04 | art3mis | and then create at least 15 sub pages devoted to ckk life-modules ;) |
| 09:37.13 | art3mis | i dont have that kind of time! |
| 09:37.15 | art3mis | ;) |
| 09:37.45 | art3mis | ckknight lifemodule-skateboard-1.0 |
| 09:38.24 | Pkekyo | omfg, I've got a 10339kB download speed O.o |
| 09:38.31 | ckknight | grats |
| 09:38.35 | art3mis | Fisker-: you're a Short Bus |
| 09:38.41 | Pkekyo | holy jumping fucking jesus |
| 09:39.10 | art3mis | quick leech more! |
| 09:39.22 | Xinhuan | ~bus factor |
| 09:39.27 | Xinhuan | aww not defined |
| 09:39.52 | ckknight | Xinhuan, if I get hit by a bus, Ace2 becomes unmaintainable. I've been working on fixing this with Rock through proper documentation |
| 09:40.02 | Fisker- | :( art3mis |
| 09:40.11 | Xinhuan | i'm not sure if documentation is sufficient |
| 09:40.15 | sag_ich_nicht | someone here have a lvl 20+ BE paladin that did all the class quests that far? |
| 09:40.19 | ckknight | and commenting and the like |
| 09:40.26 | ckknight | the code itself is relatively clear |
| 09:40.37 | ckknight | enough so that someone proficient in lua can figure it out |
| 09:40.51 | Xinhuan | i didn't look at cowtip, but did you comment the whole thing too? just so that people can use that to figure out how some functions are used |
| 09:40.56 | asmodai | ckknight++ # Since how many programmer document as well? |
| 09:40.58 | Xinhuan | ill suggest that at least |
| 09:41.22 | ckknight | not CowTip, really |
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| 09:42.44 | art3mis | Fisker-: dont feel bad at elast i didnt call you Blue Light ;) |
| 09:43.12 | CIA-14 | 03helium * r47940 10Elephant/Elephant.toc: Elephant: updated zhTW localization |
| 09:43.55 | ckknight | what is Elephant? |
| 09:44.02 | sag_ich_nicht | ckknight ChatLog, renamed. |
| 09:44.07 | Xinhuan | no clue |
| 09:44.20 | Xinhuan | is there a thraebot command that retrieves the "description" of an addon? |
| 09:44.30 | Xinhuan | without us having to check files.wowace |
| 09:44.34 | ckknight | sag_ich_nicht, okay |
| 09:44.53 | CIA-14 | 03ckknight * r47941 10LibRock-1.0/LibRock-1.0.lua: LibRock-1.0 - set an Autodoc namespace |
| 09:45.05 | art3mis | Zoo-Lib would be a good name for rock ;) |
| 09:45.16 | sag_ich_nicht | LOL |
| 09:45.16 | art3mis | with all our freaking animal addons |
| 09:45.25 | art3mis | Zoolibber ;P |
| 09:45.28 | Xinhuan | oh just wait till he starts naming libraries with different rocks |
| 09:45.30 | sag_ich_nicht | ckknight good thing you asked, i forgot to switch to elephant |
| 09:45.36 | Xinhuan | LibGranite |
| 09:45.48 | Xinhuan | LibLimestone |
| 09:45.51 | CIA-14 | 03recluse * r47942 10TextSpy/libs/: TextSpy: updated externals |
| 09:45.59 | Xinhuan | you'll need a geologist to figure that one |
| 09:46.01 | sag_ich_nicht | LibMarble |
| 09:46.07 | art3mis | Metamorphic is all the colours font size settings ;P |
| 09:46.09 | asmodai | mmm |
| 09:46.24 | art3mis | Igneious is the parser stuff |
| 09:46.27 | asmodai | ckknight: Is it expected behaviour that when you move your mouse pointer outside Pitbull's menu structure it autocloses the menu? |
| 09:46.36 | art3mis | Sedimentary are all the filler pieces ;P |
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| 09:47.02 | asmodai | Guess it is since Parrot does it as well... |
| 09:47.30 | sag_ich_nicht | it is retarded behaviour |
| 09:47.34 | sag_ich_nicht | that's what it is |
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| 09:47.43 | sag_ich_nicht | now ask again |
| 09:47.51 | art3mis | sag_ich_nicht: we dont use the word retarded here, we use "blue light" |
| 09:47.51 | sag_ich_nicht | and then i'll repeat my statement about what it is |
| 09:47.55 | *** mode/#wowace [+o ckknight_] by ChanServ |
| 09:47.59 | ckknight_ | connection's funky |
| 09:48.04 | sag_ich_nicht | art3mis i use retarded, and i will continue to use it, and you will not stop me. |
| 09:48.43 | asmodai | ckknight: Is it expected behaviour that when you move your mouse pointer outside Pitbull's menu structure it autocloses the menu? (Guess it is since Parrot does it as well...) |
| 09:48.45 | art3mis | yes i suppose it is near impossible to teach a blue light something new that may enhance his behavior ;P |
| 09:48.59 | sag_ich_nicht | so: ckknight the behaviour of your menu structures is retarded |
| 09:49.00 | ckknight | asmodai, after two seconds, yes. |
| 09:49.03 | ckknight | asmodai, it's kinda funky |
| 09:49.12 | ckknight | asmodai, this is generally fixed with Rock |
| 09:49.19 | asmodai | Ah cool. |
| 09:49.19 | ckknight | with LibRockConfig-1.0 |
| 09:49.28 | art3mis | hates hates hates |
| 09:49.31 | asmodai | Pitbull is nice :) |
| 09:49.34 | ckknight | I've prepared a statement: |
| 09:49.36 | ckknight | My bad |
| 09:49.46 | asmodai | Now to find out which addon still shows the enemy frame as well |
| 09:49.48 | sag_ich_nicht | Khaos > any ace2 configuration system. |
| 09:49.49 | sag_ich_nicht | admit it |
| 09:49.54 | sag_ich_nicht | because you know i'm right |
| 09:49.59 | art3mis | khaos? |
| 09:50.05 | ckknight | sag_ich_nicht, agreed, but LibRockConfig-1.0 > Khaos |
| 09:50.07 | ckknight | so beat that |
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| 09:50.19 | art3mis | isnt that the one from auctioneer's people? |
| 09:50.21 | sag_ich_nicht | no |
| 09:50.22 | asmodai | When I click an NPC or something I get the lovely Pitbull bar as well as an empty Blizzard portrait frame. |
| 09:50.30 | asmodai | Wonder which is still creating that one. |
| 09:50.32 | ckknight | art3mis, Khaos is Cosmos |
| 09:50.33 | sag_ich_nicht | in b4 AnduinLothar write Rock4Khaos |
| 09:50.39 | art3mis | cosmos is shite |
| 09:50.40 | sag_ich_nicht | *writes |
| 09:50.44 | sag_ich_nicht | art3mis no, it isn't |
| 09:50.53 | art3mis | i despise all that cosmos is |
| 09:50.56 | sag_ich_nicht | go read the code |
| 09:50.59 | ckknight | LibRockConfig-1.0's config structure is actually really complicated to code for |
| 09:51.03 | sag_ich_nicht | and it has the superior UI design |
| 09:51.04 | sag_ich_nicht | by far |
| 09:51.07 | ckknight | but the structure itself is very nice and simple |
| 09:51.36 | sag_ich_nicht | i'll admit Ace2 has the better backend, but cosmos has a far better frontend. |
| 09:51.42 | art3mis | i loaded cosmos once and removed it about 10mins later |
| 09:51.50 | asmodai | art3mis: I'm replacing and replacing more and more of Cosmos. |
| 09:51.51 | sag_ich_nicht | when was that? |
| 09:52.05 | art3mis | last time i touched it? |
| 09:52.09 | sag_ich_nicht | yeah. |
| 09:52.14 | art3mis | about 9 months ago or so? |
| 09:52.18 | sag_ich_nicht | back around december last year? because that was when pretty much everything was broken due too failure |
| 09:52.19 | sag_ich_nicht | yeah |
| 09:52.19 | art3mis | give or take |
| 09:52.21 | sag_ich_nicht | i figured that. |
| 09:52.29 | art3mis | tried it at launch too |
| 09:52.34 | art3mis | didnt like it much then either |
| 09:53.05 | art3mis | lack of features and useage that i wanted and liked was too great |
| 09:53.24 | Xinhuan | err |
| 09:53.31 | Xinhuan | 9 months ago was also when v2.0 came out |
| 09:53.35 | Xinhuan | and broke just about every addon |
| 09:53.39 | sag_ich_nicht | yeah |
| 09:53.47 | art3mis | cept 90% of the ace crap ;P |
| 09:53.54 | art3mis | bu thats neither here nor there |
| 09:54.01 | sag_ich_nicht | it was also the point when alexander left cosmos, and there was much restructuring |
| 09:54.11 | sag_ich_nicht | s/left/had just left/ |
| 09:54.16 | Xinhuan | i actually have early copies of Khaos from alex |
| 09:54.16 | AKX | ckknight, so what is LibRock* and why? :P |
| 09:54.18 | art3mis | im very picky in what i end up playing with |
| 09:54.21 | CIA-14 | 03nevcairiel 07Alpha * r47943 10Ace3/AceAddon-3.0/AceAddon-3.0.lua: |
| 09:54.21 | CIA-14 | Ace3 - |
| 09:54.21 | CIA-14 | - fixed indentation and some general cleanup |
| 09:54.31 | ckknight | ~rock |
| 09:54.32 | purl | it has been said that rock is an addon framework written from scratch with the hindsight of Ace2, Dongle, Cosmos, and all the other addon frameworks for WoW out there. http://wowace.com/wiki/Rock |
| 09:54.34 | ckknight | AKX, ^--- |
| 09:54.39 | AKX | Thanks.' |
| 09:55.08 | art3mis | i rank cosmos with ct |
| 09:55.13 | CIA-14 | 03pb_ee1 * r47944 10Elephant/Core-Initialize.lua: Elephant: Updating "/clog" to "/elephant" |
| 09:55.14 | sag_ich_nicht | ckknight so will LibRockConfig have profile managment etc? because i hate the fact that i have to reconfigure nearly every single ace2 addon each time i changed characters |
| 09:55.16 | art3mis | didnt like either of them |
| 09:55.38 | ckknight | sag_ich_nicht, that's part of the DB system, which has profile management |
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| 09:56.47 | Recluse | hrm, i did a svn propset svn:externals -F externals.txt libs but wau didn't give em to me when "WITH EXTERNALS" |
| 09:56.59 | neenee | Well, the norganna channels seems very quiet, so I'll post the Auctioneer problem here too. Hm. When I disable all my other addons and enable just Auctioneer, EnhTooltip, Informant, Stubby and Swatter, I get the following error message upon /auctioneer load: http://ace.pastey.net/73288 |
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| 09:57.28 | cncfanatics | bn179664 |
| 09:57.31 | ckknight | neenee, you're missing the Babylonian lib |
| 09:57.31 | cncfanatics | ups |
| 09:57.44 | ckknight | it should be in Auctioneer... *shrug* |
| 09:57.53 | sag_ich_nicht | babylonian is embedded into auctioneer, tho |
| 09:58.01 | neenee | For some reason it's not there |
| 09:58.02 | sag_ich_nicht | neenee do you happen to use enchantrix, too? |
| 09:58.07 | neenee | Nope |
| 09:58.11 | ckknight | Recluse, odd |
| 09:58.14 | cncfanatics | hmm, Ace3 branch ? |
| 09:58.21 | cncfanatics | whats up now ? I just got back |
| 09:58.25 | sag_ich_nicht | mhm |
| 09:59.18 | sag_ich_nicht | hold, neenee |
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| 09:59.35 | Recluse | tho svn update * is fetching them - do i have to fetch them all and then commit? |
| 09:59.57 | cncfanatics | Recluse, zips are built only ever 30 minutes |
| 10:00.08 | Kaelten | every 20 mins actuaylly |
| 10:00.17 | cncfanatics | 20 sorry |
| 10:00.19 | Kaelten | so there should be a round finish right now |
| 10:00.24 | sag_ich_nicht | neenee check if there is a babylonian folder in your auctioneer folder |
| 10:00.29 | neenee | There is |
| 10:00.43 | neenee | contains Babylonian.lua |
| 10:01.04 | Kaelten | hrm, whats Babylonian? |
| 10:01.07 | neenee | I re-extracted the addons, from the Auctioneer-only pack |
| 10:01.24 | sag_ich_nicht | neenee you should enable beancounter and btmscan, too. |
| 10:01.30 | sag_ich_nicht | lol |
| 10:01.36 | neenee | They're not part of the auctioneer-only pack though |
| 10:01.39 | sag_ich_nicht | try the auctioneer complete pack. |
| 10:01.45 | sag_ich_nicht | you will want that one anyway :P |
| 10:01.49 | neenee | I don't. |
| 10:01.53 | sag_ich_nicht | o rly |
| 10:01.56 | sag_ich_nicht | i don't believe it |
| 10:01.56 | neenee | I used them before and did not like nor need them |
| 10:02.08 | neenee | But if that fixes the error, fine |
| 10:02.18 | sag_ich_nicht | but... btmscan is like... the pinacle of money making in WoW. |
| 10:02.30 | sag_ich_nicht | also, yes, i think that will fix it, probably a packing error |
| 10:02.31 | neenee | I did fine without it for a long long time |
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| 10:03.36 | sag_ich_nicht | well, actually btmfeeder was the pinacle of money making in WoW, but blizzard disabled that functionality in 2.0 :O |
| 10:04.06 | neenee | It was just something to do automatically what many had been doing manually for a long time |
| 10:04.17 | sag_ich_nicht | i know |
| 10:04.37 | CIA-14 | 03athou * r47945 10FuBar_RaidBuffFu/FuBar_RaidBuffFu.lua: |
| 10:04.37 | CIA-14 | FuBar_RaidBuffFu: |
| 10:04.37 | CIA-14 | - fixing the buff scanning function as it wasn't working as intended |
| 10:05.10 | sag_ich_nicht | but it's faster and easier, and since there is a feature to enable sound from WoW even when it's minimized, i can afwow and STILL make money |
| 10:05.29 | Kaelten | g'night guys |
| 10:05.35 | sag_ich_nicht | night Kaelten |
| 10:05.36 | sag_ich_nicht | also |
| 10:05.37 | sag_ich_nicht | Kaelten |
| 10:05.49 | sag_ich_nicht | to answer your question, babylonian is part of auctioneer |
| 10:05.55 | sag_ich_nicht | library more or less |
| 10:06.08 | Recluse | ah, i see. when my addon turned about 20m old there, wau suddenly reported it as being <10m old (cause it repacked) makes sense now, and the externals downloaded that time |
| 10:06.47 | neenee | Okay, problem fixed, even with all the other addons loaded. Thank you sag_ich_nicht. It seems it was indeed all caused by a bad package. |
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| 10:07.51 | art3mis | wow sag |
| 10:07.53 | art3mis | you helped someone |
| 10:07.57 | art3mis | im scared now |
| 10:08.00 | neenee | =] |
| 10:08.12 | neenee | Anyone has the ability to help others |
| 10:08.16 | art3mis | who in here has never seen Dr.Strangelove btw? |
| 10:08.23 | art3mis | not sag |
| 10:08.28 | art3mis | he's a jerk ;) |
| 10:08.46 | neenee | So far it seems you're the rude one :P |
| 10:08.47 | sag_ich_nicht | no |
| 10:08.53 | sag_ich_nicht | i am a pretend-jerk |
| 10:09.05 | Recluse | well, i'm satisfied for today XD i'm off to watch a movie before bed |
| 10:09.18 | art3mis | neenee: yes but i never tried to help so my appearance has never been altered ;P |
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| 10:09.54 | sag_ich_nicht | art3mis also, i'm only a jerk to people like Antiarc who FORGET TO SET AN AFK FLAG |
| 10:09.57 | neenee | Well, I know you from before |
| 10:09.57 | sag_ich_nicht | ~stab Antiarc |
| 10:09.58 | purl | ACTION runs at Antiarc with an origami Swiss Army knife, and inflicts a nasty paper cut. |
| 10:10.02 | Athou | is there an api returning wether there's a temporary enchant (poison, oils) on a weapon for a given unitid ? GetWeaponEnchantInfo() appears to be self-only |
| 10:10.10 | neenee | I was in here daily long ago for a long time |
| 10:10.33 | sag_ich_nicht | Athou: no, but i think you might be able to buffcheck |
| 10:10.39 | sag_ich_nicht | (afaik, at least) |
| 10:11.12 | art3mis | neenee: then you shouldnt be surprised im a jerk ;) |
| 10:11.12 | sag_ich_nicht | aaaaaaaaaargh, MOUSE STICKY TOOLTIPS HAAAAAAAAATE |
| 10:11.21 | art3mis | aftte! |
| 10:11.21 | neenee | art3mis: You're just pretending too |
| 10:11.29 | neenee | =] |
| 10:11.29 | Mech0z | Anyone know if "/targetlasttarget" dont work if your current target is focus |
| 10:11.30 | art3mis | i lurv aftte |
| 10:11.37 | Mech0z | is your focus target* |
| 10:11.37 | asmodai | Found it |
| 10:11.45 | asmodai | It was Archeologist |
| 10:12.00 | asmodai | that still drew the default Blizzard target portrait frame |
| 10:12.22 | Athou | sag_ich_nicht: weapon buffs only show up on me :( there's no buff on my rogue target |
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| 10:12.35 | sag_ich_nicht | well, damn |
| 10:12.42 | Punkie` | oh hai Fisker- |
| 10:12.45 | art3mis | i dont think ive ever seen weapon buffs on anyone |
| 10:12.45 | art3mis | other than self |
| 10:12.57 | Fisker- | oh hai Punkie` ;( |
| 10:13.21 | sag_ich_nicht | ckknight stop hiding your plugins from my niagara. |
| 10:13.38 | Athou | and yet the buff shows up when inspecting someone's weapon |
| 10:13.39 | Punkie` | sup Fisker- |
| 10:14.01 | Fisker- | you raepd me :( |
| 10:14.21 | Punkie` | it was awesome |
| 10:14.22 | art3mis | athou: may be just a tooltip thingy |
| 10:14.40 | art3mis | sorta like how it disaplys enchants n stuff |
| 10:14.44 | art3mis | displays |
| 10:15.00 | art3mis | actually check how it does that in item tooltips |
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| 10:15.07 | art3mis | and see if you can haxor from there |
| 10:16.15 | sag_ich_nicht | ckknight no matter what i set the tooltip anchor to, i can not move it to the bottom right. is there some way to drag the tooltip to it's desired position? |
| 10:16.45 | sag_ich_nicht | wait, actually this might be a conflict |
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| 10:18.37 | sag_ich_nicht | okay was conflict from gymnast |
| 10:18.59 | sag_ich_nicht | and found the dragging |
| 10:19.47 | CIA-14 | 03nevcairiel 07Alpha * r47946 10Ace3/ (11 files in 5 dirs): |
| 10:19.47 | CIA-14 | Ace3 - |
| 10:19.47 | CIA-14 | - fixed a bug in EmbedLibraries |
| 10:19.47 | CIA-14 | - updated svn properties |
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| 10:21.00 | the-golem | Ace3? |
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| 10:21.19 | the-golem | isn't joker supposed to become ace3? |
| 10:21.28 | Punkie` | nope |
| 10:21.29 | art3mis | obviously not ;P |
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| 10:21.42 | the-golem | hrm |
| 10:21.49 | sag_ich_nicht | ckknight missing positioning functionality in CowTip: repositioning of normal tooltips near their owner frame and relocation of enchanced UI tooltips to show near their parent frame |
| 10:22.01 | the-golem | i coulda sword i read otherwise on the boards |
| 10:22.16 | orionshock | reality =/= forums |
| 10:22.20 | orionshock | lot happens on IRC |
| 10:23.26 | sag_ich_nicht | or |
| 10:24.29 | sag_ich_nicht | to say it in a different way: i want my tooltips anchoring to their origin frames, except for (duh) unit tooltips >:O |
| 10:24.59 | sag_ich_nicht | cursor anchoring is not a "good enough" solution, imho |
| 10:25.15 | the-golem | so, its not really missing functionality, but an added feature? ^^ |
| 10:25.33 | the-golem | lol, i kid |
| 10:25.43 | sag_ich_nicht | no, it's missing functionality, since ckknight is a dick and always tries to make his addons way better then anyones else solutions so he can boast his ego with it |
| 10:25.46 | sag_ich_nicht | so: missing functionality |
| 10:26.23 | the-golem | sag_ich_nicht: someother tooltip addon do this? |
| 10:26.32 | sag_ich_nicht | Gymnast Tooltips >:O |
| 10:26.44 | the-golem | so use gymnast ;-) |
| 10:26.55 | sag_ich_nicht | that doesn't provide the visual awesomeness that is cowtip :P |
| 10:27.17 | the-golem | hack gymnast and put it into cowtip :-D |
| 10:27.21 | sag_ich_nicht | and i'm too lazy to reword my egoistic demands into a "hey from a design point of view blablabla atract lots of users blablabla" selling speech |
| 10:28.32 | the-golem | tbh i like my tooltips where they are already |
| 10:29.41 | sag_ich_nicht | basicially, it copies item tooltip behavior for everything but unitframes :) |
| 10:30.17 | sag_ich_nicht | (except better) |
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| 10:31.01 | sag_ich_nicht | also, the-golem i'd hack cowtip to do this, but gymnast is... not well documented. |
| 10:31.06 | asmodai | Yea, Pitbull is sweet... :) |
| 10:31.16 | sag_ich_nicht | ~glare AnduinLothar |
| 10:31.16 | purl | ACTION glares at AnduinLothar |
| 10:31.41 | Fisker- | ~attack sag_ich_nicht |
| 10:31.41 | purl | ACTION grabs a pen, screams like she's possessed, and begins chasing sag_ich_nicht |
| 10:31.47 | sag_ich_nicht | ~whaleparry Fisker- |
| 10:31.48 | purl | ACTION uses a slightly less-huge but eminently more agile killer whale named Edwardo to parry Fisker-'s attacks. |
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| 10:36.09 | Stan__ | ckknight: so you really named it rock, nice one :P |
| 10:37.14 | Stan__ | it just came to my mind and I liked it from the first moment |
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| 10:37.27 | Nicken | Rocco |
| 10:38.02 | asmodai | Stan__: solid as... ;) |
| 10:38.13 | Guillotine | boo. apparently WAU and vista don't mix :( |
| 10:38.29 | asmodai | In Pitbull, what's this Focus and Focus' Target frames? |
| 10:38.37 | Stan__ | asmodai: yup..that was what I thought when I suggested the name |
| 10:38.43 | orionshock | 134g, 3 skill points, and 4 epic patterns later .... i have what i wanted :D |
| 10:39.58 | sag_ich_nicht | ckknight and i can't see a transparency option for the background style, nor a way to add more... help me already with some witty retort how i missed some option that you hid somewhere inane |
| 10:40.04 | Guillotine | the target machine is actively refusing connection from WAU now :( |
| 10:40.18 | sag_ich_nicht | Guillotine! |
| 10:40.23 | sag_ich_nicht | i spotted you! |
| 10:40.25 | Guillotine | hey sag :) |
| 10:40.27 | sag_ich_nicht | now you can not escape! |
| 10:40.34 | sag_ich_nicht | Guillotine ~botmail read |
| 10:40.34 | sag_ich_nicht | do it |
| 10:40.49 | asmodai | Stan__: ^^ |
| 10:41.06 | Guillotine | I got the message a long time ago :P I'm just in the process of moving so kind of forgot what you told me to do |
| 10:41.35 | Guillotine | and getting everything to work on my new laptop. beginning to wish I hadn't gotten vista |
| 10:41.48 | sag_ich_nicht | Guillotine basicially, crossrealm whispers are broken for telltrack |
| 10:41.50 | sag_ich_nicht | (BG) |
| 10:41.57 | Guillotine | oh ya |
| 10:42.04 | Guillotine | I'll fix that eventually |
| 10:42.06 | Guillotine | someday |
| 10:42.11 | sag_ich_nicht | i think it's just missing a filter for a - in the nick |
| 10:42.17 | sag_ich_nicht | or something like that |
| 10:42.17 | sag_ich_nicht | >:O |
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| 10:42.46 | Guillotine | well, I can't even download my most recent version on this computer to check the code and my old comp is hours away :P |
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| 10:44.38 | sag_ich_nicht | okay nevermind ckknight, you beat me. again. :P still missing the anchoring and adding more backgrounds tho >:O |
| 10:45.16 | orionshock | WoW-Instant-Messinger... it beats all whisper addons :D |
| 10:46.10 | sag_ich_nicht | no |
| 10:46.11 | sag_ich_nicht | it doesn't |
| 10:46.13 | sag_ich_nicht | telltrack is superior |
| 10:46.14 | sag_ich_nicht | go away |
| 10:46.27 | orionshock | :P |
| 10:46.34 | orionshock | have u used WIM sag_ich_nicht ? |
| 10:46.52 | Guillotine | really depends on if you want a complete redo of your interface |
| 10:47.05 | Guillotine | personally, I don't even use TT despite the fact I'm now primary author :P |
| 10:47.17 | Guillotine | TasteTheNaimbow is enough for me |
| 10:47.22 | sag_ich_nicht | orionshock yes. i did. |
| 10:47.25 | sag_ich_nicht | i hated it |
| 10:47.29 | sag_ich_nicht | more screenclutter |
| 10:47.30 | orionshock | lol |
| 10:48.00 | sag_ich_nicht | telltrack fits neatly into my interface, hidden until i need it, and then focusing on the whisper, hiding the general chats |
| 10:48.00 | orionshock | well i run 4 chat windows all with different traffic and having the 4 one be tells when 4 ppl are trying to whiper you is hell |
| 10:48.19 | orionshock | WIM puts it into tabs all neat and orderly |
| 10:48.27 | sag_ich_nicht | orionshock well telltrack also orders everything neatly |
| 10:48.36 | sag_ich_nicht | so: i fail to see your point |
| 10:48.39 | orionshock | but it's a cosmos thing... |
| 10:48.43 | sag_ich_nicht | SO? |
| 10:48.44 | orionshock | eww |
| 10:48.54 | Guillotine | its in cosmos, but its released seperately as well |
| 10:48.57 | sag_ich_nicht | i am a cosmos user, i am a ace2 user, i'm a dongle user |
| 10:49.01 | sag_ich_nicht | *an |
| 10:49.05 | sag_ich_nicht | what's the problem? |
| 10:49.07 | Guillotine | doesn't rely on any cosmos libraries iirc |
| 10:49.12 | Guillotine | sag: what, no joker? |
| 10:49.17 | sag_ich_nicht | Guillotine not yet :P |
| 10:49.21 | sag_ich_nicht | also, it's been renamed |
| 10:49.22 | sag_ich_nicht | ~rock |
| 10:49.23 | purl | [rock] an addon framework written from scratch with the hindsight of Ace2, Dongle, Cosmos, and all the other addon frameworks for WoW out there. http://wowace.com/wiki/Rock |
| 10:49.37 | sag_ich_nicht | my point: WIM=1 more frame=evil |
| 10:49.48 | Guillotine | oh wow. love the new name. now we can tell people to 'rock' their addons :D |
| 10:49.53 | sag_ich_nicht | lawl |
| 10:50.08 | orionshock | i just found the orginisation and intradapendancy of cosmos more like trying to convince someone that they have CRI when they say they don't and blatenly do |
| 10:50.08 | Guillotine | sounds so much better than 'jokering' |
| 10:50.27 | orionshock | confusing to me |
| 10:50.36 | Guillotine | orionshock: I take it you havn't tried any cosmos addons for a LONG LONG time? |
| 10:50.42 | sag_ich_nicht | uh |
| 10:50.45 | sag_ich_nicht | ~CRI |
| 10:50.57 | orionshock | doubt purl will know what it means |
| 10:51.09 | Guillotine | ~wiki CRI |
| 10:51.37 | Guillotine | well, maybe not |
| 10:51.42 | sag_ich_nicht | don't. use. acronyms. nobody. knows. |
| 10:51.44 | Fisker- | CARPET AND RUG INSTITUTE! |
| 10:51.49 | sag_ich_nicht | now explain yourself or go away :O |
| 10:51.52 | orionshock | CRI = Cranial Rectum Insertion |
| 10:51.55 | Guillotine | anyway, there are VERY few (if any) required dependencies left in cosmos |
| 10:52.35 | sag_ich_nicht | and orionshock |
| 10:53.20 | sag_ich_nicht | let me show you a wiki article |
| 10:53.28 | sag_ich_nicht | when i finished reading it, i will ask you a question |
| 10:53.32 | Guillotine | anyway, I didn't come here to chat or be helpful in anyway way. I want answers handed to me about how to use WAU in vista on a silver platter. now |
| 10:53.49 | Guillotine | or else |
| 10:53.52 | orionshock | Guillotine: turn off UAC |
| 10:53.56 | orionshock | it acts nicer |
| 10:53.58 | sag_ich_nicht | no |
| 10:54.02 | Guillotine | UAC? |
| 10:54.06 | sag_ich_nicht | you do not turn off UAC unless you are a retard |
| 10:54.08 | sag_ich_nicht | Guillotine |
| 10:54.17 | sag_ich_nicht | move your WoW folder out of C:\Program Files\ |
| 10:54.19 | sag_ich_nicht | problem fixed |
| 10:54.20 | orionshock | ... it's dabateable |
| 10:54.24 | sag_ich_nicht | or run WAU in elevated mode |
| 10:54.31 | Guillotine | the problem is that WAU can't even contact the server :P |
| 10:54.35 | Guillotine | well, it did once |
| 10:54.39 | sag_ich_nicht | run WAU in elevated mode |
| 10:54.39 | Guillotine | but now it can't |
| 10:54.43 | Guillotine | yes, I am |
| 10:54.53 | sag_ich_nicht | okay |
| 10:54.54 | sag_ich_nicht | use WAU2 |
| 10:54.56 | sag_ich_nicht | problem solved. |
| 10:55.00 | Guillotine | it says that the server is actively refusing the connection |
| 10:55.05 | Guillotine | WAU2 won't load at all :( |
| 10:55.07 | orionshock | firewall |
| 10:55.25 | sag_ich_nicht | firewall, allow it, etc. |
| 10:55.39 | orionshock | lsan03.sbcglobal.net |
| 10:55.54 | orionshock | oh god... u got a 2wire box Guillotine ? |
| 10:56.16 | Guillotine | I'm currently at a friend's house for the next week and have no idea what they have :( |
| 10:56.38 | orionshock | <PROTECTED> |
| 10:57.19 | Guillotine | yup, looks like they have a 2wire box |
| 10:57.26 | orionshock | >.> |
| 10:57.31 | orionshock | << works for 2wire/ATT |
| 10:57.32 | orionshock | :\ |
| 10:58.14 | orionshock | u got macafee running on that computer to? |
| 10:58.36 | Guillotine | indeed |
| 10:58.41 | Guillotine | though the firewall is disabled |
| 10:58.42 | orionshock | well theres ur problem |
| 10:58.44 | Guillotine | using windows firewall |
| 10:59.44 | orionshock | disabled or not, it's gona give u issues |
| 11:00.17 | Guillotine | boo. came on this system, suppose I should uninstall it |
| 11:00.41 | orionshock | software firewalls + 2wire HPL == don't like each other |
| 11:00.59 | sag_ich_nicht | just remove mcafee and use nod32, software firewalls are for pussies |
| 11:01.19 | orionshock | nod32 sounds like a VD |
| 11:01.32 | sag_ich_nicht | ~VD |
| 11:01.38 | orionshock | LOL |
| 11:02.05 | sag_ich_nicht | nod32 is a virus scanner btw. |
| 11:02.13 | Guillotine | well, for now maybe I'll just dl the old fashion way. Since I'm moving to my apartment next week and likely won't have 2wire |
| 11:02.14 | orionshock | FreeAVG |
| 11:02.20 | sag_ich_nicht | nod32 is better |
| 11:02.21 | sag_ich_nicht | :O |
| 11:02.27 | orionshock | getting cable Guillotine ? |
| 11:02.37 | Guillotine | yup |
| 11:03.24 | sag_ich_nicht | in b4 orionshock tries to sell you ATT internet. |
| 11:03.34 | orionshock | ah hell no |
| 11:03.36 | Guillotine | lol |
| 11:03.51 | orionshock | xply not in LA |
| 11:04.04 | orionshock | TX sure |
| 11:04.11 | *** join/#wowace Royal (n=m@cp291458-b.landg1.lb.home.nl) |
| 11:04.22 | orionshock | Ameritech regions sure, LA / Irvine / Sacramento |
| 11:04.29 | orionshock | ... outages every single fking week |
| 11:04.59 | Guillotine | just moved up from Irvine 2 weeks ago and I can confirm that :P |
| 11:05.06 | Guillotine | had ATT for a while there |
| 11:05.12 | orionshock | bras8.lsanca -- out for 3 days OC3 line went up |
| 11:05.21 | sag_ich_nicht | lol |
| 11:05.47 | sag_ich_nicht | how the hell do you manage to kill an OC3 line |
| 11:05.56 | orionshock | fk Irvine Ca, wen't down laster year for maintance for 2 weeks, was on the outage boards for almost 6months after that |
| 11:05.57 | *** join/#wowace Kirkburn (n=Kirkburn@82-32-40-219.cable.ubr06.azte.blueyonder.co.uk) |
| 11:05.58 | orionshock | >.> |
| 11:06.08 | orionshock | backhoe |
| 11:06.25 | orionshock | rather eazy to take out an OC3 line |
| 11:06.29 | sag_ich_nicht | i know |
| 11:06.30 | *** join/#wowace Boubouille (n=Boubouil@AVelizy-151-1-42-210.w82-124.abo.wanadoo.fr) |
| 11:06.31 | sag_ich_nicht | but i mean |
| 11:06.50 | sag_ich_nicht | how do you manage to build it in such a way that it is so unprotected that some idiot manages to take it right out completely |
| 11:07.34 | Punkie` | eww Fisker- |
| 11:07.42 | orionshock | don't get me wrong here, not trying to screw over my own feeder, DSL is a grate internet technologie and ATT has some of the BEST arround despite alot of that crap , just some times like big bizz do the people get lost in the mix |
| 11:08.08 | sag_ich_nicht | no i know |
| 11:08.30 | Punkie` | is wowwiki down? |
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| 11:09.38 | *** join/#wowace Neandre (n=sacha@ANantes-156-1-84-45.w90-12.abo.wanadoo.fr) |
| 11:09.46 | sica | Punkie`: no, just slow |
| 11:09.55 | sag_ich_nicht | ckknight: where do you store the damn transparency settings for cowtip in your saved vars? can't find a documentation |
| 11:11.30 | sylvanaar | actually - if you run you machine using an admin account with UAC elevation prompting on - you are just making your life miserable for no reason. elevation prompts today are about as useful as xraying shoes at the airport |
| 11:11.47 | sylvanaar | had to put in my 0.02 |
| 11:13.14 | sylvanaar | unidentified publisher wtf |
| 11:13.22 | orionshock | <PROTECTED> |
| 11:13.24 | orionshock | Atrollpriest>: we can summon you here with the lock right? |
| 11:13.26 | orionshock | Atradies>: no <-- Me |
| 11:13.27 | orionshock | Feebtsaor>: yeah, once he gets into the instance <-- Lock |
| 11:13.29 | orionshock | Feebtsaor>: we'll have to step outside |
| 11:13.31 | orionshock | Aniah>: we should be able to go just outside |
| 11:13.32 | orionshock | Atradies>: tbh if u have to ask that question; im gona seriously wonder how u made it to 70; let alone 60 |
| 11:15.39 | Punkie` | :( |
| 11:16.29 | sag_ich_nicht | okay now it's in the saved vars |
| 11:16.30 | sag_ich_nicht | strange. |
| 11:17.17 | orionshock | sylvanaar: like most things MicroCrap today, you prolly have to pay a licensing fee to make ur program "Identified" |
| 11:17.29 | *** join/#wowace ND_afk (n=Miranda@h062040167062.gun.cm.kabsi.at) |
| 11:17.31 | sylvanaar | no |
| 11:18.04 | orionshock | O.O |
| 11:18.09 | orionshock | now that's a first.... |
| 11:18.23 | sylvanaar | its just easier if you pay for it, because the users already have trusted certain providers |
| 11:19.11 | sag_ich_nicht | no, in this case you have to pay verisign or someone else |
| 11:19.13 | sag_ich_nicht | not microsoft |
| 11:19.14 | sag_ich_nicht | :O |
| 11:19.19 | sylvanaar | This is wierd though - maybe this is the clickonce error the germans are getting |
| 11:19.37 | sag_ich_nicht | sylvanaar huh? |
| 11:20.53 | sylvanaar | The first time i run the app from the shortcut it goes and uses the clickonce UI and downloads the app again |
| 11:21.29 | sylvanaar | well, now I have the problem |
| 11:21.52 | Stan__ | hi sylvanaar :P |
| 11:21.56 | sylvanaar | turn of UAC |
| 11:22.27 | sylvanaar | this is a job for MS-PSS |
| 11:22.50 | sylvanaar | and Im not fronting the money to open a case |
| 11:24.11 | sylvanaar | I turned on UAC today, and got the error now |
| 11:24.39 | *** join/#wowace KuCJIbIu` (i=_NoName@m83-188-62-106.cust.tele2.ru) |
| 11:24.50 | KuCJIbIu` | Hallo |
| 11:25.00 | *** join/#wowace AlenoChka (i=AlenoChk@141.51.dial.mgn.ru) |
| 11:25.14 | KuCJIbIu` | Alenko Hallo |
| 11:25.17 | KuCJIbIu` | ))) |
| 11:25.20 | AlenoChka | ))) |
| 11:25.27 | Stan__ | sylvanaar: the error is btw not yet fixed in Vista Sp1 |
| 11:25.40 | KuCJIbIu` | cho ? |
| 11:25.59 | AlenoChka | hi |
| 11:26.34 | KuCJIbIu` | London is capital of Great Britain |
| 11:27.07 | AlenoChka | )) |
| 11:27.18 | CIA-14 | 03jncl * r47947 10Skinner/ (AddonSkins/XRS.lua Skinner.lua UIElements1.lua): Skinner: Fix for StatusBar Texture error |
| 11:27.37 | KuCJIbIu` | A B C D E F G |
| 11:27.42 | AlenoChka | ÷åò îí ìíå îøèáêó êàêóþ òî ïèøåò |
| 11:27.47 | AlenoChka | íàðîä |
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| 11:27.55 | KuCJIbIu` | ãûãû))) |
| 11:28.08 | KuCJIbIu` | Where are you from ? |
| 11:28.08 | AlenoChka | òóïûå êàêèå òî |
| 11:28.29 | KuCJIbIu` | i'm from Uzbekesan |
| 11:28.54 | AlenoChka | I'm from Agapovka |
| 11:28.58 | KuCJIbIu` | íå èíòåðåñíî ÷îòï |
| 11:28.58 | KuCJIbIu` | à |
| 11:29.28 | KuCJIbIu` | î íà äðóãîé êàíàë |
| 11:29.36 | KuCJIbIu` | ïåíäîñû ìàë÷àò ÷îòà |
| 11:29.38 | KuCJIbIu` | )) |
| 11:29.46 | sag_ich_nicht | what the fuck. |
| 11:29.49 | sag_ich_nicht | shut the fuck up |
| 11:29.50 | sag_ich_nicht | and get out |
| 11:29.53 | sag_ich_nicht | or speak english |
| 11:29.57 | KuCJIbIu` | îî |
| 11:30.07 | KuCJIbIu` | Hm... |
| 11:30.19 | KuCJIbIu` | How are you ? |
| 11:30.24 | KuCJIbIu` | i'm fine |
| 11:30.41 | KuCJIbIu` | would you like a cap of tee ? |
| 11:30.45 | sag_ich_nicht | *cup |
| 11:30.50 | sag_ich_nicht | this is not a general chat channel |
| 11:31.06 | KuCJIbIu` | mne nasrat' |
| 11:31.09 | sag_ich_nicht | maybe you should go look for one |
| 11:31.28 | KuCJIbIu` | idi v zhopu |
| 11:31.37 | sag_ich_nicht | ckknight missing different coloring options for guild and for friends, and for people with/without pvp flag |
| 11:31.49 | AlenoChka | ÿ íèôèãà íå ïîíèìàþ |
| 11:31.58 | KuCJIbIu` | Okay.... |
| 11:32.23 | KuCJIbIu` | Now I know only I can stop the rain |
| 11:32.37 | sylvanaar | <PROTECTED> |
| 11:32.41 | KuCJIbIu` | I use sweet chicks every day |
| 11:32.53 | AlenoChka | ))) |
| 11:32.59 | orionshock | sag_ich_nicht: --- im looking at the options .. it's there |
| 11:33.02 | KuCJIbIu` | <PROTECTED> |
| 11:33.05 | AlenoChka | êèñëûé |
| 11:33.09 | KuCJIbIu` | à? |
| 11:33.15 | AlenoChka | ÿ ïîøëà íà ñ÷åò ñåòè ðàçáèðàöà |
| 11:33.19 | AlenoChka | ñêîðà âåðíóñü)) |
| 11:33.21 | KuCJIbIu` | (( |
| 11:33.21 | sag_ich_nicht | orionshock: no, it's not. not for pvp flag, and guild and friends are 1 color, should be 2 colors |
| 11:33.24 | KuCJIbIu` | êàãäà ïðèäåø ? |
| 11:33.27 | sag_ich_nicht | one for guild, one for friends |
| 11:33.30 | AlenoChka | ìèíóò ÷åðåç 20 |
| 11:33.35 | sylvanaar | ~ /kick #wowace AlenoChka |
| 11:33.40 | AlenoChka | èäè íàõåð |
| 11:33.49 | KuCJIbIu` | idi na huy ya nipanimau |
| 11:33.49 | sag_ich_nicht | KuCJIbIu`, AlenoChka, I am asking you kindly to either speak english, or leave. |
| 11:33.52 | orionshock | nit pickie eh? |
| 11:34.00 | sag_ich_nicht | orionshock very |
| 11:34.20 | orionshock | then write ur own addon |
| 11:34.21 | KuCJIbIu` | bang bang |
| 11:34.57 | sag_ich_nicht | orionshock: no, i'll just keep annoying ckknight. <3 |
| 11:35.22 | KuCJIbIu` | i have paladin 70 lvl |
| 11:35.27 | KuCJIbIu` | go pvp with me ? |
| 11:35.34 | sag_ich_nicht | no. |
| 11:35.40 | KuCJIbIu` | loh |
| 11:35.41 | sag_ich_nicht | why are you here? |
| 11:36.21 | KuCJIbIu` | nada tak |
| 11:36.51 | sag_ich_nicht | what. |
| 11:37.04 | KuCJIbIu` | sag_ich_nicht whay is you name ? |
| 11:37.08 | KuCJIbIu` | sag_ich_nicht what is you name ? |
| 11:37.18 | KuCJIbIu` | sag_ich_nicht what is your name ? |
| 11:37.48 | KuCJIbIu` | ?? |
| 11:37.51 | Stan__ | KuCJIbIu`: your mum told me that dinner is ready |
| 11:38.04 | KuCJIbIu` | huy |
| 11:38.07 | KuCJIbIu` | sasi |
| 11:38.52 | orionshock | put the mexican on the line i can atleast understand spanish better than japanise |
| 11:39.01 | sag_ich_nicht | the really sad think about this, is that he's not even using the proper unicode/UTF-8 russian |
| 11:39.28 | orionshock | russian? |
| 11:39.47 | orionshock | sag i don't belive we have russian clients |
| 11:39.53 | sag_ich_nicht | yeah, it's russian. |
| 11:40.01 | sag_ich_nicht | KuCJIbIu` i=_NoName@m83-188-62-106.cust.tele2.ru * ))) |
| 11:40.04 | Stan__ | AlenoChka [i=AlenoChk@141.51.dial.mgn.ru] |
| 11:40.06 | Stan__ | lol |
| 11:40.15 | orionshock | wow... |
| 11:40.19 | orionshock | fk me |
| 11:40.21 | KuCJIbIu` | àãà î÷åíü ñìèøíî ïðèäóðêè |
| 11:41.33 | sag_ich_nicht | KuCJIbIu` lern2unicode |
| 11:41.34 | sag_ich_nicht | now gtfo |
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| 11:41.49 | sag_ich_nicht | [Ammo] Cairenn|afk ckknight hyperChipmunk Kaelten kergoth MoonWolf someone kick him. |
| 11:42.02 | KuCJIbIu` | Learn Olbanskey |
| 11:42.34 | sag_ich_nicht | learn english |
| 11:42.44 | sag_ich_nicht | this channel is a english language only channel |
| 11:43.10 | KuCJIbIu` | i huy |
| 11:43.13 | cncfanatics | says the guy with a german nickname :) |
| 11:43.18 | sag_ich_nicht | cncfanatics so? |
| 11:43.20 | Stan__ | lol |
| 11:43.22 | cncfanatics | i'm joking, let me :p |
| 11:43.37 | sag_ich_nicht | i'm not coming in here, talking a language noone understand and being generally fucking annoying |
| 11:43.38 | sag_ich_nicht | okay |
| 11:43.40 | sag_ich_nicht | strike that last part |
| 11:43.51 | Stan__ | xD |
| 11:44.01 | Stan__ | UbiSoft and EA are offering games for free today |
| 11:44.18 | sag_ich_nicht | o rly |
| 11:44.20 | orionshock | ping ckknight |
| 11:44.21 | sag_ich_nicht | gief |
| 11:44.36 | sag_ich_nicht | he's not there, else he'd have flamed me already |
| 11:44.38 | cncfanatics | all games have been released for free since p2p has been invented anyway |
| 11:44.39 | Stan__ | FarCry, Prince of Persia - Sands in Time and Rayman Raving Rabbits |
| 11:44.40 | Fisker- | man i came |
| 11:44.44 | Stan__ | Ea is offering C&C1 |
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| 11:45.04 | cncfanatics | Stan__, EA gave me c&c3 for free |
| 11:45.14 | sag_ich_nicht | link Stan__ |
| 11:45.16 | Fisker- | why :(? |
| 11:45.18 | syeren | You can have that piece of shit for free. |
| 11:45.20 | Stan__ | but not legally |
| 11:45.27 | syeren | I can't believe they fucked up the game so much. |
| 11:45.28 | Stan__ | sag_ich_nicht: for which game? |
| 11:45.42 | orionshock | if u think bout it wow is free too :D |
| 11:45.50 | sylvanaar | *deletes clickonce cache, and registry* |
| 11:46.20 | Stan__ | oh |
| 11:46.25 | sag_ich_nicht | Stan__ all of them. |
| 11:46.29 | Stan__ | btw the UbiSoft got ingame Ads |
| 11:46.32 | Fisker- | ~seen jncl |
| 11:46.36 | purl | i haven't seen 'jncl', Fisker- |
| 11:46.39 | cncfanatics | Stan__, thats silly :p |
| 11:46.39 | Stan__ | http://www.fileplanet.com/180410/180000/fileinfo/Far-Cry-Full-Game-%5BFree-Game |
| 11:46.46 | Stan__ | http://www.fileplanet.com/180411/180000/fileinfo/Prince-of-Persia:-Sands-of-Time-Full-Game-%5BFree-Game---Ad-Supported%5D |
| 11:46.47 | Fisker- | anyone know who the skinner dude is? |
| 11:46.52 | Stan__ | http://www.fileplanet.com/180428/180000/fileinfo/Rayman-Raving-Rabbids-%5BFree-Game |
| 11:47.15 | CIA-14 | 03athou * r47948 10FuBar_RaidBuffFu/ (FuBar_RaidBuffFu.lua localization.lua): |
| 11:47.15 | CIA-14 | FuBar_RaidBuffFu: |
| 11:47.15 | CIA-14 | - weapon buffcheck is now hopefully working |
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| 11:49.53 | cncfanatics | Fisker- the toc does |
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| 11:50.10 | Fisker- | get a clue n00b |
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| 11:55.31 | cncfanatics | ~burn Fisker- |
| 11:55.31 | purl | ACTION pours gasoline all over Fisker-, ignites the fire, and then enjoys some toasty marshmallows with the glorious blaze |
| 11:56.06 | Fisker- | ah |
| 11:56.08 | Fisker- | it was sharedmedia |
| 11:56.10 | Fisker- | learn2read |
| 11:56.17 | Fisker- | who fucked with sharedmedia_ |
| 11:56.42 | Fisker- | [2007/09/02 13:55:51-1762-x2]: Skinner-2.1\Skinner.lua:178: SharedMedia-1.0: Bad argument #3 to `Fetch' (string expected, got nil) |
| 11:56.43 | Fisker- | :( |
| 11:58.34 | Megalon | Fisker-: also got this error yesterday with fubar |
| 11:59.16 | Megalon | but i could not reproduce it, so no clue what made it happen |
| 11:59.32 | Fisker- | mine's staying |
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| 12:01.16 | orionshock | well go poke skinner.lua line 178 and figure out why it's beeing btchie |
| 12:02.56 | Nicken | I stopped using Skinner now, I actually enjoy the default UI look again. |
| 12:03.09 | orionshock | ewww.... default UI |
| 12:03.38 | Nicken | hehe thats what i thought too |
| 12:03.52 | orionshock | i can't go back |
| 12:04.20 | orionshock | if u forced me to play wow w/o skinner, bartender3, or clique... i'd have to cancel my account |
| 12:06.13 | mort | or classtimers/pitbull/quartz... i couldn't stand that |
| 12:07.04 | orionshock | my computer would like me better w/o pit bull |
| 12:07.29 | mort | heh, i disabled most of the modules |
| 12:07.29 | orionshock | chronomiter > class timers.. |
| 12:07.39 | orionshock | i think thats the right addon |
| 12:07.56 | mort | i prefer classtimers for my dot rotation |
| 12:08.35 | orionshock | ""/it's the same Fking information ; it's all about display/"" |
| 12:08.51 | orionshock | i give up with IRC and short hand for formatting |
| 12:09.14 | orionshock | :D |
| 12:09.25 | mort | there was something annoying about chronometers but i can't remember what ;) |
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| 12:10.34 | CIA-14 | 03jncl * r47949 10Skinner/ (AddonSkins/AtlasLoot.lua Skinner.lua): |
| 12:10.34 | CIA-14 | Skinner: Updated AtlasLoot skin |
| 12:10.34 | CIA-14 | - Moved any existing StatusBar texture to new db entry |
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| 12:11.36 | CIA-14 | 03celellach * r47950 10AtlasLoot/ (10 files in 4 dirs): |
| 12:11.36 | CIA-14 | AtlasLoot: |
| 12:11.36 | CIA-14 | - Added Lunar Festival and Midsummer Fire Festival events. |
| 12:11.36 | CIA-14 | - Changed the name of the Gurubashi Arena Booty Run event. |
| 12:11.36 | CIA-14 | - Reordered the World Event menu. |
| 12:12.10 | CIA-14 | 03celellach * r47951 10AtlasLoot_WorldLoot/WorldEvents.en.lua: |
| 12:12.10 | CIA-14 | AtlasLoot_WorldLoot: |
| 12:12.10 | CIA-14 | - Added Lunar Festival and Midsummer Fire Festival events. |
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| 12:22.23 | orionshock | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:23.13 | orionshock | now lets see if purl learned anything today |
| 12:23.16 | orionshock | ~CRI |
| 12:23.51 | orionshock | maybe not :\ |
| 12:23.58 | orionshock | night all |
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| 12:26.32 | CIA-14 | 03athou * r47952 10FuBar_RaidBuffFu/ (FuBar_RaidBuffFu.lua localization.lua): |
| 12:26.32 | CIA-14 | FuBar_RaidBuffFu: |
| 12:26.32 | CIA-14 | - menu changed to be less ambiguous |
| 12:27.41 | cncfanatics | <3 module-assistant HARD |
| 12:30.53 | Fisker- | bah |
| 12:30.56 | Fisker- | i hate this |
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| 12:31.03 | Fisker- | lost the fishing contest by like 10 seconds |
| 12:31.10 | Fisker- | stupid faggot 19 twinks |
| 12:31.41 | Fisker- | the best part was letting them die when their escort was busy pvp'ing |
| 12:31.52 | Fisker- | "help" |
| 12:32.15 | Fisker- | ya right captaing obvious, i'm gonna help you steal more fish from me |
| 12:32.19 | Fisker- | captain* |
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| 12:59.45 | Pkekyo | whenever I log onto wow, the pop-up box says "downloading" for a few sec...anyone know wtf it's downloading? |
| 13:00.35 | sag_ich_nicht | a virus |
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| 13:02.53 | CIA-14 | 03nevcairiel 07Alpha * r47953 10Ace3/AceEvent-3.0/AceEvent-3.0.lua: |
| 13:02.53 | CIA-14 | Ace3 - ACE-2 |
| 13:02.53 | CIA-14 | - optimized the upgrading/initial loading code a bit, inspired by Kaelten's changes to AA-3.0 |
| 13:03.59 | sag_ich_nicht | wtf is this Ace3 anyway |
| 13:04.05 | sag_ich_nicht | nevcairiel explain yourself |
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| 13:04.40 | nevcairiel | what do you think it is? |
| 13:04.50 | Ominous | oO ace3 |
| 13:04.54 | sylvanaar | a political statement |
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| 13:05.23 | cncfanatics | my 3D works on linux again :o |
| 13:05.41 | Ominous | :D |
| 13:05.48 | Pkekyo | congrats cncfanatics |
| 13:05.52 | cncfanatics | now surround sound lol |
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| 13:06.11 | sylvanaar | my life can resume - i enabled UAC in vista for 20 minutes today and almost swallowed a bottle of pills |
| 13:06.48 | sylvanaar | I like MS - but UAC it pure crap |
| 13:06.50 | nevcairiel | is UAC that user-stupidity-protection? |
| 13:07.03 | Ominous | yes |
| 13:07.16 | sylvanaar | I elevated that POS right off my machine |
| 13:07.16 | cncfanatics | I don't like the philosophy behind vista |
| 13:07.19 | cncfanatics | and will thus never install it |
| 13:07.51 | sylvanaar | well, I like vista - except UAC |
| 13:07.58 | sylvanaar | UAC is a travesty |
| 13:08.21 | Pkekyo | ckknight: here? |
| 13:09.04 | Trancer | UAC will probly be used a lot in organizations tho |
| 13:09.12 | Pkekyo | ~seen ckknight |
| 13:09.14 | purl | ckknight is currently on #wowi-lounge #norganna #wowace. Has said a total of 17 messages. Is idling for 3h 11m 3s, last said: 'Recluse, odd'. |
| 13:09.39 | sylvanaar | i guess permission elevation is useful for special cases |
| 13:10.04 | Pkekyo | anyone know if SCT/Parrot/whatever shows rage gains from Unbridled Wrath? |
| 13:10.39 | Megalon | parrot does |
| 13:11.09 | Pkekyo | hmm |
| 13:11.12 | Megalon | think sct will also show it as a power gain |
| 13:11.16 | Pkekyo | if so, UW has a shitty procc rate |
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| 13:17.17 | sag_ich_nicht | uh |
| 13:17.22 | sag_ich_nicht | procs for me all the time on my warrior |
| 13:17.25 | sag_ich_nicht | dunno what you're doing |
| 13:18.20 | Dinosys | anyone else having problems with Skinner since last release? |
| 13:20.06 | ennuilg | Yup. Had to revert to yesterday's version. |
| 13:21.50 | CIA-14 | 03nevcairiel 07Alpha * r47954 10Ace3/AceAddon-3.0/AceAddon-3.0.lua: Ace3 - added $Id$ to the file |
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| 13:26.39 | Pkekyo | sag_ich_nicht: 2h ;> |
| 13:26.48 | sag_ich_nicht | heh |
| 13:26.54 | sag_ich_nicht | you don't spec fury with a 2h |
| 13:26.55 | sag_ich_nicht | nub |
| 13:26.58 | sag_ich_nicht | skill arms |
| 13:27.23 | Pkekyo | 2h fury is fucking ace for PvE dps |
| 13:27.29 | [dRaCo] | 61/0/0, nup! |
| 13:28.14 | [dRaCo] | (are there even 61 talent points in arms? o0) |
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| 13:28.27 | Pkekyo | methinks so |
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| 13:28.40 | Megalon | another warrior that never heared of the wf-totem 'hotfix' |
| 13:29.18 | ramoz | Joker has become Ace3 nau? |
| 13:29.23 | lolinternet | no |
| 13:29.27 | Dinosys | how did u revert it back ennuilg? |
| 13:29.32 | lolinternet | that's why i asked nevcairiel to explain himself |
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| 13:29.51 | nevcairiel | i dont get what you dont understand there :P |
| 13:29.59 | Pkekyo | Megalon: the one everyone's been whining about for a month or so? |
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| 13:30.16 | ennuilg | Dinosys, I just went to files.wowace.com/Skinner and downloaded yesterday's zip file. |
| 13:30.17 | sag_ich_nicht | nevcairiel the fact that you make a Ace3 branch when joker has been renamed rock and was stated to eventually become Ace3? |
| 13:30.30 | Dinosys | hmm good idea >.< |
| 13:30.35 | Megalon | wf does not proc from instant/slam dmg |
| 13:30.42 | Pkekyo | joker renamed? |
| 13:30.47 | sag_ich_nicht | yes. |
| 13:30.50 | sag_ich_nicht | ~rock |
| 13:30.51 | purl | extra, extra, read all about it, rock is an addon framework written from scratch with the hindsight of Ace2, Dongle, Cosmos, and all the other addon frameworks for WoW out there. http://wowace.com/wiki/Rock |
| 13:30.59 | Chompers | he chose rock |
| 13:31.01 | Pkekyo | Megalon: well that's just fucktarded |
| 13:31.04 | Chompers | much better than oak |
| 13:31.33 | nevcairiel | sag_ich_nicht: i didnt make the branch, but still, joker/rock wont be ace3, ace3 will be ace3, ask purl for some channel logs, i think its been discussed here last night orso |
| 13:31.45 | Gnarfoz | hrm |
| 13:31.51 | Gnarfoz | who broke the Tattle dataminer? |
| 13:31.55 | sag_ich_nicht | so what IS Ace3 dgoing to be? |
| 13:31.56 | sag_ich_nicht | -d |
| 13:32.04 | sag_ich_nicht | nevcairiel maybe you could, you know, create some wiki entry |
| 13:32.20 | sag_ich_nicht | Fisker- enjoy your STD |
| 13:32.24 | nevcairiel | when its time, there will be |
| 13:32.28 | nevcairiel | but that time is not here yet |
| 13:33.10 | Megalon | Pkekyo: http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=112401942&pageNo=6&sid=1#106 :7 |
| 13:33.11 | sag_ich_nicht | it is time right now because i wanna know wtf is going on, and digging tru a huge log is not my idea of easy when you could just explain it in one sentence |
| 13:33.58 | [dRaCo] | I dont think you're in the position to demand anything :þ |
| 13:34.08 | Fisker- | i like std's |
| 13:34.31 | sag_ich_nicht | [dRaCo] i am always in the position to demand something, or for that matter, anything |
| 13:34.41 | sag_ich_nicht | the thing with demands is that they might be not met |
| 13:35.06 | sag_ich_nicht | also i never demanded something |
| 13:35.23 | sylvanaar | just like threats, huff, puff, blow |
| 13:35.39 | sag_ich_nicht | if i'd demand something i'd say something like "ckknight i DEMAND that you change cowtip so it has more features", but i'm not doing that, now am i? :P |
| 13:36.34 | Fisker- | now you got sag_ich_nicht's std's |
| 13:36.35 | Fisker- | hoho |
| 13:37.06 | sag_ich_nicht | i don't have any |
| 13:37.15 | sag_ich_nicht | i just have a trap setup for random rapes from IRC users |
| 13:37.17 | Fisker- | indeed you do |
| 13:37.21 | sag_ich_nicht | that gives them STDs |
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| 13:44.38 | Wobin | !c us argent dawn feene |
| 13:44.41 | ThraeBot | Wobin: Feene, Level 70 Draenei Shaman (0/42/19). 6489 HP; 5513 Mana; 125 mana regen; 26 mp5; 3527 Armour; 930 AP; 151.9 Melee DPS; 22.24% melee crit; 39 melee hit; 26 +spell dmg/heal; 16.25% dodge; 9.52% block; 10 shadow resist (+10);[[ TBR: 820 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/yv3lvn ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/2qdc3m ][ Updated: Sun Sep 2 09:55:40 2007 ]] |
| 13:44.50 | Wobin | hm, that's enhancement, isn't it? |
| 13:45.13 | Wobin | what on earth is she doing with a level 63 offhand? |
| 13:45.32 | Wobin | !c us argent dawn tobermory |
| 13:45.35 | ThraeBot | Wobin: Tobermory, Level 68 Human Rogue (17/42/0). 6330 HP; 1011 AP; 241.2 Melee DPS; 21.01% melee crit; 136 melee hit; 14.89% dodge; 4 resilience;[[ TBR: 1080 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/2bcb55 ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/2wjk8t ][ Updated: Sun Sep 2 09:56:33 2007 ]] |
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| 13:49.41 | [dRaCo] | Wobin: yes, but her stats are awful :/ |
| 13:50.05 | Megalon | enhancemant shaman with daggers |
| 13:50.10 | Megalon | aaaaaaargh |
| 13:50.39 | Megalon | those stats are not awful |
| 13:50.53 | Megalon | 39hit, 930ap, 22% crit |
| 13:51.14 | Nicken | rofl |
| 13:51.17 | Megalon | can't believe he's lvl 70 |
| 13:51.18 | Megalon | :X |
| 13:51.25 | Nicken | !c eu outland trollfager |
| 13:51.28 | ThraeBot | Nicken: Trollfager, Level 70 Troll Shaman (0/42/19). 7569 HP; 6765 Mana; 127 mana regen; 26 mp5; 4761 Armour; 1286 AP; 179.9 Melee DPS; 25.45% melee crit; 226 melee hit; 13.03% dodge; 5% block;[[ TBR: 762 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/ywapuc ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/2rkg2b ][ Updated: Sun Sep 2 10:02:27 2007 ]] |
| 13:51.35 | Nicken | my enhance shaman |
| 13:51.44 | RaydenUni | wowwiki down? |
| 13:53.53 | Nicken | Slow atleast |
| 13:55.47 | RaydenUni | timeout for me |
| 13:56.12 | [dRaCo] | !c eu die nachtwache rshak |
| 13:56.15 | ThraeBot | [dRaCo]: Rshak, Level 70 Tauren Shaman (0/42/19). 9701 HP; 7175 Mana; 114 mana regen; 15 mp5; 4994 Armour; 1214 AP; 202.6 Melee DPS; 22.58% melee crit; 191 melee hit; 14.06% dodge; 5% block; 114 resilience;[[ TBR: 799 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/2ddqqu ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/2oxvc9 ][ Updated: Sun Sep 2 10:07:14 2007 ]] |
| 13:56.20 | [dRaCo] | mine =) |
| 13:56.25 | RaydenUni | transport between ogrila and skyguard is at honored correct? |
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| 14:01.38 | Fisker- | nice tits sag_ich_nicht |
| 14:01.43 | BankZ | I wish Barender 3 had a druid flight form stance so I could hide the bars when flyiing |
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| 14:04.55 | CIA-14 | 03nemes * r47955 10NBuffBars/ (NBuffBars.lua NBuffBars.toc): |
| 14:04.55 | CIA-14 | NBuffBars: |
| 14:04.55 | CIA-14 | - First beta version |
| 14:04.55 | CIA-14 | - Update description |
| 14:04.55 | CIA-14 | - Update show in party / show solo to default to "on" |
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| 14:08.35 | [KzM]Fatalis | is patch day this tuesday? |
| 14:08.45 | Stan__ | nope |
| 14:08.50 | Stan__ | next tuesday |
| 14:09.52 | Hjalte | Does anyone know Atlasquest? - Is there any other ingame way of knowing what quests are available for instances? |
| 14:11.17 | Stan__ | Hjalte: http://www.getbuffed.com/wowdb/quests |
| 14:11.23 | Stan__ | it's not ingame |
| 14:11.25 | Stan__ | but cool |
| 14:11.41 | Hjalte | I'll check it out, thanks |
| 14:11.54 | Hjalte | Is the site working for you? |
| 14:11.59 | Stan__ | yup |
| 14:12.18 | Hjalte | I'm getting time outs |
| 14:12.24 | CIA-14 | 03ascalia * r47956 10AtlasLoot/Constants/constants.de.lua: |
| 14:12.25 | CIA-14 | AtlasLoot: |
| 14:12.25 | CIA-14 | - updated German file (WorldEvents section) |
| 14:12.40 | Stan__ | seems a bit slow atm |
| 14:12.55 | Hjalte | I think its loading something now |
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| 14:15.49 | Hjalte | Does anyone have experience using Sphere from the svn? |
| 14:16.44 | CIA-14 | 03ascalia * r47957 10AtlasLoot_WorldLoot/WorldEvents.en.lua: |
| 14:16.44 | CIA-14 | AtlasLoot_WorldLoot: |
| 14:16.44 | CIA-14 | - added quality to Elder's Moonstone |
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| 14:26.31 | Pkekyo | what's normal Pyro damage at lvl 35? |
| 14:30.31 | Xinhuan | whatever it says on the tooltip |
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| 14:36.37 | Pkekyo | just did a 580 pyro |
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| 14:42.32 | Fisker- | yay! |
| 14:42.39 | Fisker- | For a fee i can get ringtones on my iphone! |
| 14:42.49 | [dRaCo] | o0 |
| 14:42.51 | Fisker- | Instead of getting it for free on any other phone! |
| 14:45.24 | CIA-14 | 03saroz * r47958 10Skinner/Skinner.lua: Skinner: Bugfix |
| 14:49.01 | Wobin | I'm outdpsing her |
| 14:49.07 | Wobin | and only just outdamaging her |
| 14:49.12 | Wobin | and I only just hit 69 |
| 14:49.47 | [dRaCo] | her? that enhancer you linked earlier? |
| 14:50.11 | kenlyric | if only the iphone had some sort of music device so you didn't need ringtones... |
| 14:50.23 | [dRaCo] | if only. |
| 14:50.32 | kenlyric | imagein! |
| 14:50.37 | kenlyric | also, imagine! |
| 14:50.50 | kenlyric | a phone with a music player so you could have any one of your songs be your ringtone! |
| 14:50.55 | [dRaCo] | nobody would have to dl ring tones to his/her iphone |
| 14:51.03 | [dRaCo] | woah, that'd be sooooo awesome. |
| 14:51.59 | Pkekyo | Fisker-: did you really buy an iPhone?! O.o |
| 14:52.18 | kenlyric | to be fair, my wife's non-iphone has the same limitation. plays music but not as her ringtone. |
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| 14:53.20 | sylvanaar | you are paying the iRate |
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| 14:55.14 | goal| | hello |
| 14:55.34 | goal| | i'm looking for a mod that will let me hide my UI while in combat. is there such a thing? |
| 14:55.55 | genetik- | alt-z |
| 14:55.56 | genetik- | heh |
| 14:57.28 | Wobin | [dRaCo]: yeah |
| 14:57.41 | [dRaCo] | Wobin: she sucks. |
| 14:59.22 | Fisker- | Pkekyo sarcasm doesn't suit you :( |
| 15:00.37 | goal| | genetik-, alt+z doesn't work in combat |
| 15:00.43 | goal| | at least for me it doesn't. |
| 15:01.01 | Fisker- | works for me |
| 15:01.04 | Fisker- | hoho |
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| 15:01.57 | Pkekyo | Fisker-: wasn't sarcasm, was a honest question |
| 15:06.00 | Wobin | hurrah |
| 15:06.08 | Wobin | my first primal nether at level 69 =P |
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| 15:07.32 | Pkekyo | congrats |
| 15:07.45 | Fisker- | Pkekyo i don't even live in teh us |
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| 15:12.42 | mitch1 | yo |
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| 15:19.56 | mitch1 | erm, how does the "isChecked" attribute work for groups in AceOptions table? |
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| 15:26.53 | MoonWolf | Hmm, anyone know of a searchable note addon ? |
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| 15:31.49 | Wobin | hm |
| 15:31.52 | sylvanaar | notes-u-need |
| 15:31.56 | Wobin | time to try farming Felsteel gloves |
| 15:32.30 | sylvanaar | and that old cosmos one - i loved that - what was is called |
| 15:32.42 | sylvanaar | socialnotes or something |
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| 15:40.54 | Fisker- | i has this macro |
| 15:40.55 | Fisker- | /cast [targe=targettarget,help] [target=self,modifier:alt] [target=target,help] Holy Light(Rank 4) |
| 15:40.59 | Fisker- | ierr |
| 15:41.05 | Fisker- | with target instead of targe |
| 15:41.16 | Fisker- | how do i make the target stuff only take target's target if it's an enemy? |
| 15:41.59 | [dRaCo] | dunno if thats possible... tried [harm, target=targettarget, help]? |
| 15:42.21 | ulic | with harm? |
| 15:42.27 | ulic | oh |
| 15:42.34 | charon | Fisker-: how about you list the help stuff first? |
| 15:42.41 | charon | so it will take precedence |
| 15:43.02 | charon | ./cast [help] Foo, [target=targettarget,help] Foo |
| 15:43.04 | charon | or something like that |
| 15:43.21 | charon | (target=target seems a bit redundant) |
| 15:45.42 | kenlyric | man, this is dumb, something keeps d/c me from AV. |
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| 15:49.40 | CIA-14 | 03gamefaq * r47959 10BigWigs/Hyjal/Archimonde.lua: BigWigs: Archimonde added deDE localization |
| 15:54.25 | Fisker- | Antiarc |
| 15:54.26 | Fisker- | small request |
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| 16:02.16 | sag_ich_nicht | [17:32] <sylvanaar> and that old cosmos one - i loved that - what was is called <--socialmods + notepad |
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| 16:17.07 | Keias | are there any chronometer type addons still around? |
| 16:17.23 | RaydenUni | are there mods for keeping notes? |
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| 16:17.32 | RaydenUni | i want to keep a list of my shadowcloth vendors :D |
| 16:17.41 | Saladin | Keias: Chronometer? :p |
| 16:17.53 | [dRaCo] | chronometer still is, Keias... might wanna try classtimer and/or antagonist, though. |
| 16:18.21 | Keias | well that works. Didn't know it was still being maintained |
| 16:18.24 | Keias | Thanks :P |
| 16:18.28 | Saladin | Keias: CDT is also nice, I use both CDT and Chronometer for my "hidden" ui |
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| 16:22.40 | ulic | RaydenUni: I just use Omnibus |
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| 16:26.53 | RaydenUni | ace? |
| 16:26.54 | sag_ich_nicht | Fisker- is that some random script |
| 16:26.58 | sag_ich_nicht | or do you just not like me |
| 16:27.37 | sag_ich_nicht | RaydenUni: Omnibus, Notepad, Notes-U-Need, SocialMods |
| 16:28.25 | haste | tinypad |
| 16:28.48 | Chompers | Fisker- |
| 16:28.54 | Chompers | i see you use holy light R4 |
| 16:29.00 | Chompers | how much +heal do you have? |
| 16:29.12 | RaydenUni | recommend omnibus? |
| 16:30.19 | RaydenUni | tinypad looks nice |
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| 16:40.52 | Jagobah | omni buuus ( '-') |
| 16:42.19 | Elkano | wow... 7/25 in our raid are druids :) |
| 16:42.36 | Punkie` | you cut like a loli Fisker- |
| 16:43.43 | Fisker- | :( |
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| 16:48.59 | CIA-14 | 03gamefaq * r47960 10BigWigs/BlackTemple/Shahraz.lua: BigWigs: Shahraz added deDE localization |
| 16:49.27 | haste | rori |
| 16:50.40 | RaydenUni | can you run simple arithmetic in wow? |
| 16:50.43 | RaydenUni | if so how? |
| 16:53.27 | Kaelten | wow http://slashdot.org/articles/07/09/02/1223209.shtml |
| 16:53.47 | Chompers | Fisker- Fisker- Fisker- |
| 16:54.18 | sylvanaar | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:55.44 | Kaelten | g'morning btw |
| 16:55.52 | JoshBorke | Kaelten: morning |
| 16:56.05 | Fisker- | Chompers Chompers Chompers Chompers Chompers Chompers Chompers Chompers Chompers Chompers Chompers Chompers |
| 16:59.06 | Chompers | what's your +heal? |
| 16:59.24 | Fisker- | ~1680 unbuffed i believe |
| 16:59.25 | Chompers | and what does HL R4 heal for when raid buffed? |
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| 16:59.50 | Fisker- | ~2100 |
| 16:59.54 | Fisker- | noncrit |
| 17:00.20 | Chompers | ~900 for me |
| 17:00.30 | Chompers | not got the +heal to make it worth using |
| 17:00.54 | Fisker- | nub |
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| 17:16.18 | RaydenUni | i need 90 bolts of imbued netherweave |
| 17:17.39 | Nicken | Hehe my mage had like all mats for 365 Tailoring when he was level 60 |
| 17:19.45 | Nicken | God i really hope blizzard make Dalaran less laggy compared to Shattrath |
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| 17:24.06 | RaydenUni | i'm at 360 shadow right now |
| 17:24.15 | RaydenUni | i just need primal waters to make my boots |
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| 17:39.32 | ckknight | hey all, back |
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| 17:40.39 | Fisker- | so busfactor of 0? |
| 17:41.21 | ckknight | ? |
| 17:42.07 | CIA-14 | 03kaelten 07Alpha * r47961 10Ace3/AceAddon-3.0/AceAddon-3.0.lua: |
| 17:42.07 | CIA-14 | Ace3 - |
| 17:42.07 | CIA-14 | - removed a needless check |
| 17:43.03 | Corey | so theres an ace3 after all? |
| 17:43.40 | CIA-14 | 03funkydude * r47962 10Babble-2.2/Babble-Boss-2.2/Babble-Boss-2.2.lua: Babble-2.2: Boss: add Anzu, Sethekk Halls, summoned boss |
| 17:43.51 | Funkeh` | Corey: yes |
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| 17:43.59 | Fisker- | well you haven't been run over by a bus yet ckknight :( |
| 17:44.01 | Fisker- | or :) |
| 17:45.05 | Pkekyo | does Blacksmith Hammer count as a mace? |
| 17:45.18 | Fisker- | i do not believe so |
| 17:45.48 | Pkekyo | damnit! |
| 17:45.54 | Pkekyo | can't find anywhere to buy a fucking 1h mace :< |
| 17:46.25 | RaydenUni | for what? |
| 17:46.31 | Corey | what race |
| 17:46.38 | RaydenUni | lower city sells a great caster mace |
| 17:46.44 | ckknight | okay, I'm thinking I'm going to start committing LibBabble-3.0 |
| 17:47.05 | ckknight | wait |
| 17:47.14 | ckknight | first, the AceLibrary LibStub branch should go in |
| 17:47.15 | Pkekyo | RaydenUni: for leveling 1h mace skill |
| 17:47.17 | RaydenUni | oh |
| 17:47.19 | RaydenUni | lol |
| 17:47.20 | Pkekyo | ckknight! finally |
| 17:47.28 | Pkekyo | does Parrot show rage gain from Unbridled Wrath? |
| 17:47.37 | ckknight | no idea what that is |
| 17:47.45 | ckknight | it's probable |
| 17:47.49 | RaydenUni | is there a known recent bug for pitbull not displaying self and target frames? |
| 17:47.49 | Pkekyo | warrior talent |
| 17:47.54 | Chompers | don't think so |
| 17:47.55 | Pkekyo | chance to give +rage on hit |
| 17:47.55 | RaydenUni | i have to reload to get them to show up |
| 17:48.00 | Chompers | i've not seen it |
| 17:48.05 | RaydenUni | might happen from alt tabbing |
| 17:48.49 | RaydenUni | Pkekyo http://www.wowhead.com/?item=2130 |
| 17:48.53 | RaydenUni | http://lootables.com/index.php?itemSearch=1&openPanels=types&q_name=&q_minLvl%5Bmin%5D=&q_minLvl%5Bmax%5D=&q_itemLvl%5Bmin%5D=&q_itemLvl%5Bmax%5D=&q_quality%5Bmin%5D=0&q_quality%5Bmax%5D=6&q_crafted=&q_bindType=&searchButton.x=18&searchButton.y=13&searchButton=Search&q_selectedTypes=1%3A2*&selectedTypes_select=&q_dps%5B2%5D%5Bmin%5D=&q_dps%5B2%5D%5Bmax%5D=&q_wsp%5B2%5D%5Bmin%5D=&q_wsp%5B2%5D%5Bmax%5D=&q_sub%5B2%5D%5B4%5D=1&q_rai |
| 17:48.53 | RaydenUni | ds=&raids_select=&q_instances=&instances_select=&q_heroicInstances=&heroicInstances_select=&q_bosses=&bosses_select=&q_otherSources=&otherSources_select=&q_selectedStats1=&selectedStats1_select=&q_selectedStats2=&selectedStats2_select=&q_selectedStats3=&selectedStats3_select=&q_selectedStats4=&selectedStats4_select=&q_reqFactions=&reqFactions_select=&q_tradeSkills=&tradeSkills_select=&q_socketColors=&socketColors_select=&q_reqCh |
| 17:48.54 | RaydenUni | arClass=&reqCharClass_select=&q_tiers=&tiers_select=&listStart=280 |
| 17:48.54 | Pkekyo | "Unbridled Wrath Rank 0/5 Gives you a chance to generate an additional rage point when you deal meelee damage iwth a weapon." |
| 17:48.56 | RaydenUni | woah |
| 17:48.58 | RaydenUni | very sorry about that |
| 17:49.04 | RaydenUni | i didn't realize the address was that long |
| 17:49.18 | Corey | yep thats pretty huge |
| 17:49.22 | Saroz | RaydenUni, update |
| 17:49.26 | Pkekyo | RaydenUni: thanks, but don't have enough time to get to any of those locations :< |
| 17:49.27 | CIA-14 | 03funkydude * r47963 10PeriodicTable-3.0/ (4 files in 3 dirs): PeriodicTable-3.0: add blank Anzu until nymbia fixes le miner |
| 17:49.28 | Fisker- | tinyurl motherfucker |
| 17:49.34 | Fisker- | do you know it? |
| 17:49.35 | Chompers | do you speak it? |
| 17:49.52 | RaydenUni | man, that is a really long address :D |
| 17:50.04 | Fisker- | infact i want to hurt you for it |
| 17:50.15 | RaydenUni | Pkekyo how do you not have enough time to buy a mace? but enough time to level it? |
| 17:50.17 | CIA-14 | 03saroz * r47964 10sRaidFrames/sRaidFrames.lua: sRaidFrames: Show location as Unknown if zone is nil |
| 17:50.23 | RaydenUni | and why do you need to buy a mace to level it? |
| 17:51.37 | Pkekyo | RaydenUni: got 10min until kara invites, farming weapon skill in blasted lands while waiting |
| 17:51.37 | Pkekyo | RaydenUni: because I don't have a mace atm |
| 17:51.48 | RaydenUni | oh |
| 17:52.08 | RaydenUni | oh you don't need the skill for KZ, just to waste time |
| 17:52.38 | Pkekyo | tbh, I'm hoping to get the dps mace off illhoof ;> |
| 17:54.48 | Pkekyo | but couldn't find a mace, so I bought a dagger and gonna try ninja some rogue loot instead |
| 17:55.03 | RaydenUni | do you need a skill level to roll on it? |
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| 17:55.06 | RaydenUni | what class are you? |
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| 17:55.56 | Pkekyo | Warrior |
| 17:56.05 | Pkekyo | RaydenUni: no, but I need a skill level to use it ;> |
| 17:57.19 | CIA-14 | 03funkydude * r47965 10Cartographer/Cartographer_InstanceNotes/ (8 files): Cartographer: InstanceNotes: add Anzu, Sethekk Halls |
| 17:58.42 | Pkekyo | it would kinda suck to give a rogue dagger to a warrior that won't even hit the bloody target ;> |
| 17:59.59 | Pucmel | who cares |
| 17:59.59 | RaydenUni | true, always annoying |
| 18:01.52 | CIA-14 | 03nalumis * r47966 10FuBar_ReagentFu/ReagentFuLocals-deDE.lua: FuBar_ReagentFu: deDE localization fix |
| 18:05.46 | CIA-14 | 03ckknight 07LibStub * r47967 10AceLibrary/AceLibrary.lua: AceLibrary - fix a potential bug when upgrading from a non-LibStub AceLibrary to a LibStub library and then a revision higher. |
| 18:06.04 | CIA-14 | 03kaelten 07Alpha * r47968 10Ace3/AceAddon-3.0/AceAddon-3.0.lua: |
| 18:06.04 | CIA-14 | Ace3 - |
| 18:06.04 | CIA-14 | - Added quick and dirty non persistent status of addons. |
| 18:06.49 | Ominous | whats this new ace3 branch about?, is this the official ace3 in making? |
| 18:07.12 | Kaelten | Ominous yes |
| 18:07.39 | ckknight | Ominous, I'm still putting my effort into Rock, which unlike Ace3, is practically done |
| 18:07.51 | TNSe | rock? |
| 18:07.54 | ckknight | ~rock |
| 18:07.54 | purl | rumour has it, rock is an addon framework written from scratch with the hindsight of Ace2, Dongle, Cosmos, and all the other addon frameworks for WoW out there. http://wowace.com/wiki/Rock |
| 18:07.56 | ckknight | I renamed Joker |
| 18:07.58 | TNSe | where did paper, scissors and joker go? |
| 18:08.17 | Fisker- | It's paper, scissors and rock |
| 18:08.20 | Fisker- | now |
| 18:08.34 | Fisker- | Rock beats the crap out of scissors, and rock tears through paper |
| 18:08.35 | Stan__ | lol ckknight nice that you took my suggestion |
| 18:08.42 | ckknight | sure did |
| 18:09.24 | Ominous | ckknight: so whats gonna happen to rock? |
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| 18:09.41 | Gngsk | some bright lua programmer is going to take it over after ckknight gets hit by a bus |
| 18:09.59 | ckknight | basically. |
| 18:10.08 | ckknight | Ominous, well, I'm going to finalize it in about 2 weeks or so |
| 18:10.12 | sylvanaar | looks like ms released the patch for all the crashes in 3d games today |
| 18:10.16 | Fisker- | are there any busses on hawaii anyways? |
| 18:10.18 | ckknight | during which time all my major addons will have been ported over |
| 18:10.27 | ckknight | Fisker-, yea, it has a pretty good mass transit system |
| 18:10.31 | Fisker- | oh |
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| 18:10.37 | Fisker- | i thought it was a house with a hut on it |
| 18:10.44 | Fisker- | and you somehow swam over there with a ethernet cable |
| 18:10.48 | *** mode/#wowace [+v Shirik] by ChanServ |
| 18:10.51 | Fisker- | with a buttload of waterproof repeaters |
| 18:10.52 | Gnarfoz | how do you reset or disable BigWigs modules when you don't have access to the FuBar plugin? |
| 18:11.04 | ckknight | no, it's a pretty important military base and a halfway point between Asia and America |
| 18:11.35 | ckknight | Ominous, so basically, I'll have a working next-generation framework soon, whereas the design-by-committee Ace3 will have theirs a long ways away |
| 18:11.46 | Shirik | ckknight: Which one's that? |
| 18:11.52 | ckknight | ~rock |
| 18:11.52 | purl | hmm... rock is an addon framework written from scratch with the hindsight of Ace2, Dongle, Cosmos, and all the other addon frameworks for WoW out there. http://wowace.com/wiki/Rock |
| 18:11.52 | TNSe | "next generation" O_O |
| 18:11.57 | TNSe | ~joker |
| 18:11.58 | purl | somebody said rock was an addon framework written from scratch with the hindsight of Ace2, Dongle, Cosmos, and all the other addon frameworks for WoW out there. http://wowace.com/wiki/Rock |
| 18:12.06 | Shirik | rock is an important military base? |
| 18:12.09 | Gnarfoz | it's current generation, once it comes out, right? :D |
| 18:12.12 | TNSe | what was wrong with Joker? |
| 18:12.13 | ckknight | no, Hawaii, Shirik |
| 18:12.16 | Shirik | oh |
| 18:12.18 | RaydenUni | <Fisker-> are there any busses on hawaii anyways? <-- yes |
| 18:12.36 | ckknight | TNSe, had "Joke" et al, also, Rock gives a sense that it's strong, firm, a foundation, able to smash things |
| 18:12.36 | Shirik | Fisker-: There's even interstate highways in Hawaii |
| 18:12.36 | RaydenUni | vacation soon? |
| 18:12.40 | Shirik | how they managed that, I'm not quite sure |
| 18:12.42 | Shirik | but there are |
| 18:12.47 | RaydenUni | no more than 3 lanes anywhere though |
| 18:12.50 | RaydenUni | yep, interstates |
| 18:12.53 | TNSe | yeah, but paper owns rock |
| 18:12.56 | TNSe | ever thought about that+ |
| 18:13.02 | ckknight | no way, TNSe, not sharp rocks |
| 18:13.09 | TNSe | and ace is a sharp paper |
| 18:13.10 | sylvanaar | function chicken() if chicken() then return egg end |
| 18:13.18 | TNSe | and 3rd time is a charm |
| 18:13.22 | ckknight | lol, sylvanaar |
| 18:13.25 | TNSe | so ace3 is going to be problematic for rock |
| 18:13.37 | ckknight | TNSe, doubt it, seeing as Ace3 doesn't really work yet |
| 18:13.41 | Fisker- | cool Shirik :P |
| 18:13.59 | Fisker- | curse you for making me take an interest in hawaii now |
| 18:14.06 | TNSe | lol |
| 18:14.12 | Ominous | so does this mean there is no chance of rock becomming ace3 |
| 18:14.15 | RaydenUni | i just went on a week cruise in hawaii |
| 18:14.21 | Fisker- | wtf |
| 18:14.25 | ckknight | Ominous, yea, but I can still call it Ace2's successor |
| 18:14.30 | Fisker- | thought it was small :( |
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| 18:14.35 | Fisker- | but then it's 1500 miles wide |
| 18:14.40 | Elkano | ckknight, Rock will fail when Water is released :P |
| 18:14.44 | Nicken | ckknight: you live on hawaii? |
| 18:14.45 | RaydenUni | each island is relatively small |
| 18:14.48 | ckknight | yea, nicken |
| 18:14.55 | Kaelten | ckknight: please stop telling everyone that ace3 will be a failure because you don't agree with the design practices behind it |
| 18:15.05 | sylvanaar | omg the vs2008 installer is insane |
| 18:15.23 | ckknight | I'm just stating that I don't agree with the design-by-committee development scheme, you've stated you don't like my practices |
| 18:15.23 | Fisker- | well i was thinking like 10 miles and stuff like that |
| 18:15.27 | ckknight | and that's fine |
| 18:15.35 | ckknight | it's just that I have working code now |
| 18:15.40 | ckknight | and you really don't |
| 18:15.45 | Funkeh` | ckknight: Ace2 was originally design by commite and look how popular it is now :) |
| 18:15.54 | ckknight | Funkeh`, now that's a lie |
| 18:16.01 | Kaelten | no its not. |
| 18:16.01 | Funkeh` | ckknight: Sorry, but a framework is more than one person can handle/ |
| 18:16.17 | Fisker- | can't we all just be Dexter's? |
| 18:16.23 | Fisker- | Emotionless and don't give a shit :P |
| 18:16.26 | ckknight | Funkeh`, when writing a significant chunk of it, I made a lot of design decisions on my own |
| 18:16.28 | Kaelten | yes but I don't constantly bring it up, and I don't appriciate that you are bringing up the fact that Joker is almost finished and that Ace3 is still in prototyping every time someone brings it up |
| 18:16.29 | Fisker- | i know i am :( |
| 18:16.54 | sylvanaar | cwajga |
| 18:16.55 | ckknight | Kaelten, but it's the truth and the foundation of my argument against you making Ace3 instead of using Rock as a base as I have suggested multiple times |
| 18:17.15 | RaydenUni | perhaps you two want to discuss this not in the public channel... |
| 18:17.22 | Saroz | shush RaydenUni |
| 18:17.51 | Pkekyo | ding! 300 dagger skill |
| 18:17.57 | RaydenUni | woot |
| 18:17.57 | Fisker- | Yeah this is #FriendsForever når #BashMySkullIn :( |
| 18:18.08 | Fisker- | not* |
| 18:18.31 | Corey | its interesting convo |
| 18:18.47 | Nicken | Why can't a commitee evaluate and suggest changes on Rock instead? |
| 18:19.10 | RaydenUni | its an interesting topic, but it seems like it would be difficult to discuss it rather than argue about it |
| 18:19.28 | RaydenUni | i'm all for discussions, but i doubt arguments in here will promote the community |
| 18:19.39 | durcyn | i'd go so far as to say it's political bullshit, and all parties need to take a step back |
| 18:19.44 | Fisker- | ^^ |
| 18:19.46 | ckknight | nicken, I have no idea, I've suggested it |
| 18:19.58 | ckknight | I welcome people to evaluate and give advice on Rock |
| 18:20.04 | ckknight | I'm holding the olive branch out |
| 18:20.16 | TNSe | Rock needs an abstraction layer for ace2/ace3 :D |
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| 18:20.32 | TNSe | ace2 emulation lol |
| 18:20.37 | Nicken | I would if i was good enough. |
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| 18:20.46 | Nicken | TNSe: thats sounds horrible |
| 18:20.46 | Nicken | -s |
| 18:20.49 | kergoth | TNSe, pointless, would gain nothing |
| 18:20.54 | Fisker- | The Ã…l |
| 18:21.03 | ckknight | kergoth's pretty much right |
| 18:21.03 | Fisker- | Ace-Abstraction-Layer |
| 18:21.06 | Fisker- | !1 |
| 18:21.17 | ckknight | a lot of the changes were made to the API in order to prevent issues |
| 18:21.27 | xyu | Hey guys i have a quick question about WAU. my friend's using vista64 and for some reason it's not letting WAU to access the files to update them. |
| 18:21.32 | TNSe | LOL |
| 18:21.33 | ckknight | e.g. memleak in AceEvent-2.0 had to be fixed by an API change |
| 18:21.47 | TNSe | AAL |
| 18:21.50 | xyu | [9/2/2007 2:13:04 PM] 06 System.UnauthorizedAccessException: Access to the path 'C:\Program Files (x86)\World of Warcraft\Interface\Addons\TinyTipExtras\source.wau' is denied. |
| 18:21.55 | CIA-14 | 03funkydude * r47969 10BigWigs/Outland/Maulgar.lua: BigWigs: Outland/Maulgar: add spellshield cooldown bar, thanks to wallix & Khyaz |
| 18:21.57 | RaydenUni | distinct difference between committe and having one person in charge of it. both have pluses and minuses |
| 18:22.01 | Fisker- | yeah Ã…l TNSe :( |
| 18:22.07 | xyu | Anyone know how to get this working? |
| 18:22.42 | dylanm | Quick interjection here: anyone know if any of the big heavy-duty combat data mods (Recount, Assessment, etc.) show time spent outside of the FSR? |
| 18:22.54 | TNSe | install fubar |
| 18:22.56 | TNSe | get fubarregen |
| 18:23.11 | Kaelten | And I've invited ck to be part of the committee so don't try to make me out to be the bad guy |
| 18:23.12 | ckknight | RaydenUni, yea, I can see that. I just see the benefits of having one person design it (clear vision, fast code creation, consistency) outweighing the benefits of designing by committee |
| 18:23.24 | RaydenUni | php was design by committee and its a huge mess |
| 18:23.26 | TNSe | design committee's rock |
| 18:23.30 | TNSe | just look at windows |
| 18:23.32 | TNSe | ehh |
| 18:23.33 | TNSe | wait a sec |
| 18:23.36 | TNSe | nvm |
| 18:23.52 | ckknight | Kaelten, I've offered to be on the committee if you use my work, instead you want to throw it into the wind, and I don't want to wait 3 months before I can use a framework which already exists and is ready to go |
| 18:24.07 | RaydenUni | in my opinion, one person heading up a language (or whatever else) often leads to a more elegant design |
| 18:24.15 | ckknight | RaydenUni, C++ was design-by-committee |
| 18:24.23 | RaydenUni | was C? |
| 18:24.26 | ckknight | C#, on the other hand, had a chief architect |
| 18:24.32 | ckknight | I'm not sure, RaydenUni |
| 18:24.47 | TNSe | C was made by a danish guy |
| 18:24.51 | RaydenUni | c++ was an addon to C to give it objects and whatnot |
| 18:24.59 | RaydenUni | uh, denis ritchie at bell labs |
| 18:24.59 | ckknight | I'm gonna go get breakfast |
| 18:25.02 | ckknight | it's poached eggs |
| 18:25.03 | TNSe | later he was wtfpwnd by a committee when he wanted to have c++ |
| 18:25.04 | Nicken | didn't Stroustrup design C++? |
| 18:25.13 | TNSe | yeah |
| 18:25.16 | RaydenUni | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/C_language |
| 18:25.47 | xyu | ANy ideas why i can't get WAU to work in Vista? >< |
| 18:25.56 | TNSe | meh |
| 18:25.57 | RaydenUni | xyu do you have the proper .NET? |
| 18:26.03 | TNSe | wiki = hacked :P |
| 18:26.17 | xyu | RaydenUni: is there any special for the vista? i dont know what he has |
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| 18:26.26 | xyu | i'm guessing not, |
| 18:26.36 | durcyn | so basically, there are three or four distinct groups of people who want to be able to say "look at meeeee i wrote ace3, i'm famous", instead of actually putting that childish crap behind them and producing the fucking code? |
| 18:26.47 | RaydenUni | i don't know |
| 18:26.56 | RaydenUni | i just know my friends had problem because they didn't have .NET |
| 18:27.04 | Funkeh` | ckknight: and I see the disadvatanges, let me see |
| 18:27.06 | durcyn | or are we up to five forks now |
| 18:27.08 | xyu | Get the .NET Framework 3.5 Beta 2 |
| 18:27.12 | xyu | will that work? |
| 18:27.21 | Funkeh` | Too much work, gets too much, you already have big projects, you neglect addons like cartographer and pitbull because of it. |
| 18:27.30 | Funkeh` | Infact when did you last read their threads? |
| 18:27.30 | dylanm | durcyn: I'm not sure where you're getting these numbers :p |
| 18:27.33 | TNSe | ckknight, how bad is the memory leak in ace2-event |
| 18:27.42 | durcyn | dylanm: branches |
| 18:28.33 | sylvanaar | xyu disable UAC |
| 18:28.35 | durcyn | rock/joker, ace2 refactor, ace3 alpha.. |
| 18:30.24 | Kaelten | ace2 refactor was a test run to see if it'd be possible to clean up Ace2 |
| 18:30.32 | Kaelten | its been ditched as many prototypes are |
| 18:30.43 | CIA-14 | 03funkydude * r47970 10BigWigs/Outland/Maulgar.lua: BigWigs: Outland/Maulgar: Not much of a cooldown |
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| 18:34.00 | ckknight | TNSe, not horrible, but noticeable |
| 18:34.38 | TNSe | any addon I should avoid using because of it? :P |
| 18:35.06 | ckknight | Funkeh`, I read their threads. Also, I'm going to move bug reports/feature requests onto Jira so that people can have a streamlined way of submitting them and I'll have a streamlined way of accessing |
| 18:35.17 | ckknight | TNSe, *shrug* |
| 18:35.44 | ckknight | TNSe, I doubt it's really enough to cause major problems |
| 18:35.49 | TNSe | good |
| 18:36.41 | Pkekyo | anyone know an addon that records procc rates? |
| 18:36.44 | ckknight | durcyn, problem with your statement is that I did produce the "fucking code" |
| 18:37.23 | ckknight | TNSe, really it's one of those things where it could be the straw that broke the camel's back. You'd need quite a few straws for that to happen, though |
| 18:37.32 | TNSe | lol |
| 18:37.37 | TNSe | some crazy guy had 400 addons |
| 18:37.42 | TNSe | and complained about "slow loading times." |
| 18:37.45 | [dRaCo] | Pkekyo: there's procwatch on wowi, outdated, but with a toc change it's functional again. |
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| 18:40.29 | Mecdemort | where is joker hiding? i can't find it anywhere on the svn |
| 18:40.30 | Gnarfoz | procwatch is not aware of consecutive procs |
| 18:40.49 | ckknight | Mecdemort, I renamed it to rock, now in trunk |
| 18:41.07 | Mecdemort | rock? |
| 18:41.34 | Saroz | Ace3 = Paper! |
| 18:41.36 | Saroz | OMG I R COMIC |
| 18:41.47 | Gnarfoz | yadda yadda |
| 18:41.52 | Gnarfoz | it makes for great drama, tho |
| 18:42.01 | Saroz | so true |
| 18:42.05 | ckknight | Saroz, no |
| 18:42.16 | ckknight | and rock > paper, if it's sharp enough |
| 18:42.20 | ckknight | like a dagger |
| 18:42.21 | Gnarfoz | haha |
| 18:42.23 | ckknight | slice slice |
| 18:42.29 | Gnarfoz | see ckk trying to change the rules of rock-paper-scissors |
| 18:42.32 | Mecdemort | ya..i dont get it |
| 18:42.38 | [dRaCo] | I wrote something very simple to track mongoose and crusader procs... if you want, I can send it to you, but it's uncommented, prolly bad code. |
| 18:43.21 | ckknight | Mecdemort, rock is strong, firm, a foundation, also has a lot of good euphemisms |
| 18:43.25 | ckknight | it'll rock your world, man! |
| 18:43.27 | Gnarfoz | Saroz: too bad it will be users (both authors and players) who will suffer from this :\ |
| 18:43.35 | Mecdemort | ah, ok |
| 18:43.36 | Shadowed | Nobody suffers from this |
| 18:43.44 | Shadowed | only people who seem to think that more choice is horrible |
| 18:43.45 | Mecdemort | so its on release version now? |
| 18:43.58 | Shadowed | (Or don't know how you measure performance, which is most people) |
| 18:43.59 | Saroz | Gnarfoz, nah, chill |
| 18:44.00 | ckknight | Rock's not officially released yet |
| 18:44.00 | Pkekyo | [dRaCo]: would be great |
| 18:44.04 | ckknight | it's currently in alpha |
| 18:44.32 | Mecdemort | poop ok, i'll give it a try anyway |
| 18:44.38 | Pkekyo | wanna track the healing procc of my metagem |
| 18:44.48 | ckknight | Mecdemort, well, you can check out the CowTip branch in branches |
| 18:44.49 | Mecdemort | lol but now i dont remember why i was trying to find it on the svn in the first place |
| 18:44.55 | Gnarfoz | Shadowed: easily enough, two sets of libraries that want to achieve the same things will not improve performance ;-) |
| 18:44.56 | ckknight | it's the only addon that currently uses it |
| 18:45.14 | [dRaCo] | Pkekyo: DCC send incoming. |
| 18:45.21 | Shadowed | Gnarfoz, I'm sure you'll be scared when you lose that 0.3 FPS |
| 18:45.29 | Shadowed | or you're using 3 MB more memory |
| 18:45.35 | Shadowed | god help you when that happens |
| 18:45.37 | Gnarfoz | more memory I couldn't care less about |
| 18:45.45 | Pkekyo | [dRaCo]: cheers, appreciated |
| 18:46.03 | [dRaCo] | hm... not arriving? |
| 18:46.06 | [dRaCo] | firewalled? |
| 18:46.07 | kergoth | Gnarfoz, two frameworks doing the same work isnt going to result in a noticable performance difference, imo. |
| 18:46.19 | kergoth | lots of addons in peoples addons dirs today do their own legwork without frameworks at all, without much of a loss |
| 18:46.25 | CIA-14 | 03ckknight * r47971 10Ace2/AceLibrary/AceLibrary.lua: .AceLibrary - merge in LibStub branch. I did a whole bunch of testing, so this should work fine, but please alert me if any issues arise. |
| 18:46.39 | Gnarfoz | kergoth: yeah, for those who use addons that don't use a framework |
| 18:46.51 | Shadowed | the majority of the mods people use don't impact performance at all |
| 18:47.06 | Shadowed | the only time it becomes noticable is when you have lots of little mods doing it, or you have a large mod like a DM or UF |
| 18:47.13 | Mecdemort | oh performance wise: i have an event that is always fired in pairs but i want to only run on the first one, so i have a boolean variable to check. would it be better/faster/wtfevar to use bucketevent? |
| 18:47.20 | Pkekyo | [dRaCo]: not firewalled |
| 18:47.33 | [dRaCo] | hm, weird... one moment |
| 18:47.42 | Pkekyo | I'm getting transfer errors |
| 18:47.49 | ckknight | Mecdemort, using buckets adds a certain degree of complexity |
| 18:47.59 | ckknight | Mecdemort, seeing as you're sure it only runs in pairs, I'd say just use the boolean check |
| 18:48.06 | Mecdemort | ok |
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| 18:49.54 | [dRaCo] | Pkekyo: check the query |
| 18:50.27 | Mecdemort | ya for some reason BANKFRAME_CLOSED and MAIL_CLOSED are always fired twice, tho i can't find any difference in state between the 2 fires |
| 18:50.55 | Pkekyo | aye, cheers |
| 18:51.02 | Pkekyo | dunno wether or not I run embedded libs though |
| 18:52.21 | [dRaCo] | check any ace addon's folder... if there's something in the libs folder, you're running embeddeds |
| 18:52.28 | Chompers | doomwalker down |
| 18:52.29 | Chompers | horay! |
| 18:52.30 | ckknight | Mecdemort, what if you only check 1? |
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| 18:52.38 | ckknight | Mecdemort, oh, nvm |
| 18:52.43 | ckknight | Mecdemort, I dunno |
| 18:52.55 | Pkekyo | [dRaCo]: no libs folder at all |
| 18:53.18 | Mecdemort | ya, wowwiki says the items are only available on the first fire and not the second, but in tests they're available on both |
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| 18:53.22 | cncfanatics | yo all |
| 18:53.27 | Mecdemort | sup |
| 18:53.29 | ckknight | hey cncfanatics |
| 18:53.30 | [dRaCo] | then you're fine, the addon should work fine |
| 18:53.37 | cncfanatics | just reinstalled linux meh, giev working compiz |
| 18:53.47 | cncfanatics | anyone gimme a clue how to make it work ? |
| 18:53.58 | cncfanatics | GLX_EXT_texture_from_pixmap is not available with direct rendering. |
| 18:54.05 | Josh_Borke | cncfanatics: install all dependencies |
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| 18:54.15 | cncfanatics | Josh_Borke, the package manager did that for me |
| 18:54.30 | Josh_Borke | cncfanatics: you fail because you use package manager |
| 18:54.58 | cncfanatics | Josk_Borke, you don't think i'll bother using tar when I can use apt-get do you ? |
| 18:55.01 | [dRaCo] | Pkekyo: now you've just gotta find the event for that proc, register it, create some variables and write a small method to increase those variables |
| 18:55.13 | Josh_Borke | skip tar and go straight to git :-P |
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| 18:55.22 | Pkekyo | [dRaCo]: guess I'm SOL and JWF then :> |
| 18:55.56 | [dRaCo] | why? pretty easy. |
| 18:56.20 | Pkekyo | for you maybe |
| 18:56.38 | [dRaCo] | just copy my methods and rename the variables ^^ |
| 18:56.43 | CIA-14 | 03madrak * r47972 10ORLIC/: ORLIC: uploading 1.0 initial release of ORLIC to SVN. |
| 18:56.48 | Pkekyo | I'll look into it |
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| 18:57.14 | Ominous | what a great initial description |
| 18:57.25 | xyu | ARRGGG i still can't get WAU to have permission to access my files. :( |
| 18:57.27 | xyu | always access denied |
| 18:57.35 | [dRaCo] | vista? |
| 18:57.40 | xyu | yes |
| 18:57.42 | xyu | 64 |
| 18:58.08 | xyu | .net 3.0 is installed |
| 18:58.22 | [dRaCo] | try running wau as admin |
| 18:58.35 | xyu | yeah, how? i right click on it but i dont see the option |
| 18:58.54 | [dRaCo] | dunno, not using vista |
| 18:59.05 | [dRaCo] | tried runas? |
| 18:59.27 | Wogroipl | 03is it possible to create a raidgroup header in Pitbull, so I can see which group is which? |
| 18:59.32 | [dRaCo] | wtf. |
| 18:59.34 | Fisker- | rnoooooo |
| 18:59.38 | Fisker- | do not want |
| 18:59.40 | xyu | well normally i can right click and select runas admin, but wowace doens't have an EXE that i can find |
| 18:59.43 | xyu | well the new one doesn't |
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| 18:59.54 | xyu | the type is "application refrence" lol |
| 19:00.22 | Fisker- | weird that vista wouldn't support that |
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| 19:00.37 | ulic | you'd have to run java as admin |
| 19:00.40 | xyu | it does, on all programs. |
| 19:00.45 | Pkekyo | Vista is a sack o' shite |
| 19:00.47 | xyu | oh it's java? |
| 19:00.54 | xyu | wow. i'll have to use the old WAU i guess |
| 19:00.57 | ulic | WAU2 is |
| 19:01.00 | Fisker- | WAU 1.9 is C# |
| 19:01.05 | [dRaCo] | wau2 or wau1.9.something? |
| 19:01.05 | cncfanatics | Vista - piece of SHIT |
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| 19:01.13 | Fisker- | i'm gonna fucking kill you cncfanatics |
| 19:01.20 | xyu | i'm using 1.9.43.602 |
| 19:01.25 | Fisker- | come in under my umbe-rella |
| 19:01.27 | Fisker- | so i can kill you |
| 19:01.29 | xyu | but it's not an exe |
| 19:01.30 | Pkekyo | cncfanatics: I concur |
| 19:01.38 | xyu | it's some sort of "Application Refrence" |
| 19:01.42 | xyu | whatever the hell that means :P |
| 19:02.02 | xyu | i can't find the .exe for WAU w/ this new version |
| 19:02.13 | Pkekyo | xyu: sounds like fancypants talk for a shortcut |
| 19:02.36 | Fisker- | i'm gonna find it xyu! |
| 19:02.37 | xyu | it's not a shortcut though, that i can tell. if i right click on it and go to it's "Location" |
| 19:02.44 | xyu | it still says the same thing o_O |
| 19:04.14 | Fisker- | lulz |
| 19:04.16 | Fisker- | think i found it |
| 19:04.23 | Fisker- | C:\Documents and Settings\<user>\Local Settings\Apps\2.0\QDD4MWJN.M71\OKXEA28V.ER0\wowa..tion_d76ccab02584da8d_0001.0009_93913cadef99e279 |
| 19:04.54 | Fisker- | that's pretty fucked up |
| 19:05.05 | xyu | yep i found it too |
| 19:05.08 | Elkano | well .Net |
| 19:05.08 | xyu | search found it |
| 19:05.12 | xyu | and it works |
| 19:05.16 | xyu | if i run the .exe directly |
| 19:05.24 | xyu | vista doesn't seem to like it if i run the application refrence |
| 19:05.30 | xyu | but thanks ^_^ |
| 19:06.14 | CIA-14 | 03ckknight * r47973 10LibBabble-Zone-3.0/ (. LibBabble-Zone-3.0.lua LibBabble-Zone-3.0.toc lib.xml): LibBabble-Zone-3.0 - initial commit. I don't recommend using this, as the API may change. |
| 19:06.25 | Pkekyo | I just went afk for 5min whilst in combat...still alive O.o |
| 19:06.47 | ckknight | note: LibBabble-3.0 is framework-agnostic, i.e. not Ace, not Rock, not Dongle, just standalone |
| 19:07.16 | Wogroipl | 03is it possible to create raidgroup headers in pitbull? |
| 19:07.17 | Pkekyo | ckknight: will Rock be renamed ie. Ace 3 or stay as-is? |
| 19:07.28 | ckknight | Pkekyo, I don't know anymore |
| 19:07.30 | Fisker- | stop using colors Wogroipl |
| 19:07.32 | Fisker- | do not want |
| 19:07.50 | xyu | wow i just broke it again, lol i moved it from the folder on accident |
| 19:07.57 | xyu | oh well i'll go reinstall :P |
| 19:08.03 | Pkekyo | rofl |
| 19:08.04 | Fisker- | harr |
| 19:08.19 | ckknight | Pkekyo, it's becoming less likely. Granted, Rock is basically done, Ace3 has hardly any code, and I'm planning on releasing Rock soon |
| 19:08.24 | ckknight | so we'll see how things go |
| 19:08.55 | Wogroipl | Fisker-, this better |
| 19:08.57 | Wogroipl | ? |
| 19:09.00 | Fisker- | yes |
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| 19:09.52 | Pkekyo | ckknight: but Rock is still supposed to be what Joker was supposed to be? |
| 19:10.00 | Wogroipl | but seeing no answer to my question, I guess the answer is no? |
| 19:10.01 | ckknight | I just renamed it |
| 19:10.06 | ckknight | so yes, Pkekyo |
| 19:10.18 | ckknight | Wogroipl, what's your question? |
| 19:10.29 | Fisker- | http://img.4chan.org/b/src/1188759601853.jpg |
| 19:10.30 | Fisker- | awesome |
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| 19:10.48 | Chompers | wut? |
| 19:11.03 | Fisker- | you need moar 4chan |
| 19:11.07 | Chompers | i think i see a face... |
| 19:11.09 | Chompers | oh god |
| 19:12.31 | Wogroipl | ckknight, if it's possible to create raidgroup headers, so I can tell which group is which? |
| 19:12.37 | Wogroipl | in pitbull |
| 19:12.48 | ckknight | headers how? |
| 19:13.05 | Wogroipl | like Group 1`, and then 5 ppl under it |
| 19:13.07 | ulic | "Group 1" etc |
| 19:13.14 | ckknight | oh, no, you can't really do that |
| 19:13.24 | ckknight | I just recommend placing them in places you remember |
| 19:13.27 | ckknight | seeing as you can split up by group |
| 19:13.45 | ckknight | once you know that, e.g. Group 1 is the top-left, showing the text becomes pointless |
| 19:13.45 | Wogroipl | personally I do, but I got the question from a guildmate ;) |
| 19:13.54 | ckknight | tell him he's a big nub, then |
| 19:13.54 | Pkekyo | damn, my window haven't been closed in half a year, so it's close to impossible to close it now |
| 19:13.55 | ckknight | :-P |
| 19:14.04 | ckknight | *shrug* Wogroipl |
| 19:14.09 | Wogroipl | ok, thanks for the info :) |
| 19:14.10 | ckknight | I don't see myself putting it in, honestly |
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| 19:14.25 | Wogroipl | nah, np... I'll relay it |
| 19:14.51 | Fisker- | grid > pitbull |
| 19:15.27 | TNSe | 4 > 2 |
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| 19:15.29 | Fisker- | for raidframes of course |
| 19:15.32 | Fisker- | yeah TNSe |
| 19:15.50 | TNSe | 2 different things :P |
| 19:16.03 | Fisker- | you know how i like to obvious troll |
| 19:16.42 | TNSe | I prefer x-perl over decurse. |
| 19:17.11 | art3mis | grid and pitbull both are poop ;) |
| 19:17.21 | Fisker- | i hate you art3mis |
| 19:17.38 | art3mis | i know muffin, i know |
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| 19:19.28 | Fisker- | btw |
| 19:19.34 | Fisker- | being lazy pays off |
| 19:19.51 | Fisker- | my raid array got fried and my machine couldn't even see the drives anymore |
| 19:19.59 | art3mis | you finally saved up enough marlboro points for that iron lung? |
| 19:20.08 | Fisker- | then a couple of days ago i saw that i had an extra harddrive that was corrupt |
| 19:20.16 | Fisker- | turns out my harddrives had recovered or whatever |
| 19:20.20 | Fisker- | just had to reformat it :( |
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| 19:21.32 | CIA-14 | 03ckknight * r47974 10LibBabble-Zone-3.0/LibBabble-Zone-3.0.lua: LibBabble-Zone-3.0 - add documentation |
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| 19:22.52 | Funkeh` | ckknight: you broke all the translations by changing it to ANSI |
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| 19:23.09 | ckknight | Funkeh`, srsly? |
| 19:23.15 | Funkeh` | yeah ;p |
| 19:23.17 | ckknight | oh well, I'll fix it |
| 19:23.54 | ckknight | oh, I know why, cause I got it off of pastebin |
| 19:24.11 | Funkeh` | thats a likely culprit ;p |
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| 19:25.01 | Fisker- | what do i want to read? |
| 19:25.03 | Fisker- | btw ckknight |
| 19:25.09 | ckknight | yea? |
| 19:25.26 | Fisker- | There's a problem with CowTip that if i mouseover a unit i have enabled it will continue to have tooltips up for units i have disabled |
| 19:26.16 | Funkeh` | ckknight: also you want |
| 19:26.18 | Funkeh` | <Ui xmlns="http://www.blizzard.com/wow/ui/" xmlns:xsi="http://www.w3.org/2001/XMLSchema-instance" xsi:schemaLocation="http://www.blizzard.com/wow/ui/ |
| 19:26.19 | Funkeh` | ..\FrameXML\UI.xsd"> |
| 19:26.21 | Funkeh` | as the header or you create a FrameXML error |
| 19:26.51 | Fisker- | like i have all unitframe tooltips disable, but world tooltips and such stay intact, then if the tooltip doesn't get to fade out before changing between units then it'll stay enabled even for disabled tooltips |
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| 19:27.06 | ckknight | weird |
| 19:28.45 | ckknight | well, Fisker-, now's a good time to get acquainted with jira |
| 19:29.12 | Fisker- | uh-oh |
| 19:29.13 | ckknight | http://jira.wowace.com/secure/CreateIssue.jspa |
| 19:29.20 | Fisker- | phew |
| 19:29.42 | Fisker- | lol |
| 19:29.47 | ckknight | what? |
| 19:29.51 | CIA-14 | 03ckknight * r47975 10LibBabble-Zone-3.0/LibBabble-Zone-3.0.lua: LibBabble-Zone-3.0 - fix translations |
| 19:29.58 | Fisker- | image verification = "Lasefly" |
| 19:30.07 | Fisker- | only missed an r for not making sense anyways |
| 19:30.32 | ckknight | http://www.wowace.com/wiki/LibBabble-Zone-3.0 <-- API et al |
| 19:31.41 | Antiarc | Hey, where can I get FuBar_AddOnSpam? |
| 19:31.59 | Funkeh` | Its on the SVN |
| 19:32.06 | Antiarc | I don't see it on trunk |
| 19:32.11 | Funkeh` | You fail at life |
| 19:32.17 | Fisker- | Antiarc |
| 19:32.19 | Fisker- | feature request!1 |
| 19:32.23 | Funkeh` | ctrl+f addonspam |
| 19:32.35 | Fisker- | any chance of getting the newest threat revisions colored green or something? |
| 19:32.40 | Antiarc | It doesn't show up in WAU |
| 19:32.43 | Fisker- | when checking party revisions |
| 19:32.48 | Antiarc | Fisker-: Yeah, I should do something like that |
| 19:32.49 | Funkeh` | Reload your index file Antiarc |
| 19:35.42 | Fisker- | might finally have talked my guild into dumping KTM |
| 19:36.03 | Fisker- | so we don't get n00bs whining about KTM reporting some 100k's of threat when magtheridon is released |
| 19:36.30 | Ominous | :) |
| 19:36.40 | Chompers | we swapped Fisker-, everyone loves it |
| 19:36.50 | Fisker- | yeah everyone likes a guild without me |
| 19:37.03 | Chompers | test it on moroes, i found that a great encounter to show it off |
| 19:37.18 | Chompers | maulgar too |
| 19:37.30 | Funkeh` | For multi mob support showing off? |
| 19:38.01 | Chompers | yeah |
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| 19:38.20 | Chompers | most people dont give a shit about its small memory usage |
| 19:38.26 | Fisker- | i should try out some lua at some point |
| 19:38.31 | Fisker- | so i can make my fubar addon :( |
| 19:38.34 | CIA-14 | 03ckknight * r47976 10LibBabble-Zone-3.0/lib.xml: LibBabble-Zone-3.0 - add xml header |
| 19:38.40 | Fisker- | since Funkeh` is too lazy to make it for me |
| 19:38.56 | Funkeh` | Chompers: heh, come 2.4 both ktm and threat-1.0 will have multimob support, and mobs with the same name won't be a problem either :) |
| 19:39.08 | Fisker- | indeed |
| 19:39.15 | Fisker- | but Threat will forever be the winner |
| 19:39.15 | ckknight | wait, that's not right |
| 19:39.20 | Chompers | yeah Funkeh` |
| 19:39.28 | Chompers | but make them swap over to Threat now |
| 19:39.40 | Chompers | before they say "ktm does the same thing, lets stick with it" |
| 19:40.01 | Funkeh` | Yeah ckknight <ui> ;) |
| 19:40.06 | Funkeh` | minus |
| 19:40.10 | CIA-14 | 03ckknight * r47977 10LibBabble-Zone-3.0/lib.xml: LibBabble-Zone-3.0 - fix last commit |
| 19:40.15 | Fisker- | though i guess you might as well just pull values from Blizzard's ui anyways |
| 19:40.17 | Fisker- | so it |
| 19:40.19 | Ominous | the ktm author will probabilly modify the blizzard threat values as they arnt accurate enough |
| 19:40.22 | Fisker- | so it's pretty hard to fuck up |
| 19:40.34 | Ominous | according to him =P |
| 19:40.38 | Fisker- | of course |
| 19:40.39 | Ominous | or something |
| 19:40.42 | Funkeh` | Ominous: lol, I doubt they will give bad values |
| 19:40.46 | Funkeh` | they fucking make the game |
| 19:40.51 | Fisker- | get it Funkeh` |
| 19:40.53 | Ominous | Funkeh`: i know |
| 19:40.55 | Fisker- | it's taking the piss on kenco |
| 19:40.58 | Fisker- | he's* |
| 19:41.02 | Pkekyo | how do you calculate dps from a static number? |
| 19:41.05 | Ominous | ~slap Fisker- |
| 19:41.06 | purl | ACTION slaps Fisker-, keep your grubby fingers to yourself! |
| 19:41.06 | Funkeh` | oh |
| 19:41.08 | FryGuy- | blizzard added threat meters? |
| 19:41.09 | Funkeh` | he said it was wrong? |
| 19:41.13 | Fisker- | ~whalenuke Ominous |
| 19:41.14 | purl | ACTION dons his radiation cloak and tinted glasses while a highly intelligent whale named Ray precipitates critical mass for uncontrolled nuclear fission around Ominous with his mind powers |
| 19:41.15 | CIA-14 | 03ckknight * r47978 10LibBabble-Zone-3.0/lib.xml: LibBabble-Zone-3.0 - capitalize <Script> instead of <script> |
| 19:41.16 | Fisker- | FryGuy- they're going to |
| 19:41.19 | FryGuy- | :@ |
| 19:41.22 | FryGuy- | that's so stupid |
| 19:41.24 | Fisker- | as well as unique mob identifiers |
| 19:41.27 | FryGuy- | i'm glad i stopped playing |
| 19:41.36 | Ominous | Funkeh`: i said kenco will probabilly say its wrong and change them |
| 19:41.37 | Fisker- | if you can't fight it, join it |
| 19:41.43 | FryGuy- | well unique mob identifiers make sense |
| 19:41.46 | Funkeh` | ;p |
| 19:42.08 | Funkeh` | FryGuy-: Like every single raider has a threatmeter whats the big deal |
| 19:42.14 | Ominous | in a sh script how can you check that a file is present |
| 19:42.23 | FryGuy- | i never used them |
| 19:42.32 | Fisker- | only thing we need now is instance maps |
| 19:42.37 | Funkeh` | Yeah |
| 19:42.41 | Funkeh` | WTB instance maps |
| 19:42.44 | FryGuy- | well, none of the guilds i was in used them |
| 19:42.51 | Funkeh` | Hacking the texture is bullshit |
| 19:43.13 | Funkeh` | Oh and damage meters |
| 19:43.13 | ckknight | lol, Funkeh` |
| 19:43.14 | ckknight | yea. |
| 19:43.16 | Funkeh` | inbuilt! |
| 19:43.24 | Funkeh` | Like the BG scoreboard but for Instances |
| 19:43.52 | Funkeh` | Not exactly a hard thing to do the functionality is alreayd there, why they are not in PvE instances I don't know |
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| 19:45.11 | ckknight | *shrug* |
| 19:45.19 | Fisker- | they don't want to make teleport hacking easy? :P |
| 19:45.21 | ckknight | because they don't want levels of automation or something |
| 19:46.30 | CIA-14 | 03ckknight * r47979 10/trunk/ (10 files in 10 dirs): .LibRock*-1.0 - fix lib.xml |
| 19:48.15 | Fisker- | i need something awesome to watch :( |
| 19:48.26 | Funkeh` | porn? |
| 19:49.00 | Ominous | what would the crontab entry be to run a script every 15mins |
| 19:49.00 | Fisker- | no |
| 19:51.16 | Josh_Borke | Ominous: */15 * * * * * script.pl |
| 19:51.30 | Josh_Borke | there may or may not be an extra * |
| 19:51.41 | Ominous | if there is where will it be |
| 19:51.42 | haste | Fisker-: Oruchuban Ebichu! |
| 19:51.46 | Josh_Borke | at the end |
| 19:52.13 | Chompers | Ominous: i see your tattle file is much larger than the default tattle data files |
| 19:52.21 | Chompers | how can i mine the data for my battlegroup? |
| 19:52.21 | Ominous | Chompers: ? |
| 19:52.24 | Fisker- | gonna download Firefly and watch it :o |
| 19:52.46 | haste | Fisker-: go fetch naked blood |
| 19:52.47 | Chompers | i have no idea how to run the dataminer.lua file in tattle |
| 19:53.10 | Ominous | which Tattle file do you mean, the one at ominous.me.,uk |
| 19:53.17 | Chompers | yeah |
| 19:53.47 | Fisker- | buuuh manga haste |
| 19:53.47 | Ominous | erm, basically you have to install lua, and lua-socket then edit one of the first lines in dataminer.lua then type lua dataminer.lua |
| 19:53.54 | haste | Fisker-: no, it's not |
| 19:53.58 | Chompers | that easy? |
| 19:54.03 | haste | Fisker-: I can upload a clip on /f/ if you want :D |
| 19:54.15 | Chompers | i downloaded lua and tryied the 'lua dataminer.lua' but it gave me errors |
| 19:54.30 | Fisker- | ok |
| 19:54.30 | Fisker- | giev |
| 19:54.32 | Chompers | lua-socket, i'll read up on that |
| 19:54.48 | haste | Fisker-: just need to kill Perfect dark first, so I get some upload speed, then upload |
| 19:55.11 | Ominous | Chompers: what os you on |
| 19:55.39 | Chompers | vista |
| 19:56.27 | Cheads | hmm does anyone know if it's possible in Recount to switch between CurrentFightData and OverallData? |
| 19:57.15 | CIA-14 | 03madrak * r47980 10ORLIC/ (AceAddon-2.0.lua AceAddon-2.0.toc): ORLIC: Initial |
| 19:57.26 | Fisker- | orlic? :I |
| 19:57.35 | ckknight | he's doing it wrong |
| 19:57.50 | Saroz | Other Really Lame Interface Code |
| 19:57.54 | CIA-14 | 03madrak * r47981 10ORLIC/Libs/: ORLIC: uploading 1.0 initial release of ORLIC to SVN. |
| 19:58.27 | Saroz | or... Ordinary Really Lame Interface Code |
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| 19:59.18 | CIA-14 | 03madrak * r47982 10ORLIC/Libs/AceAddon-2.0/: ORLIC: uploading 1.0 initial release of ORLIC to SVN. |
| 19:59.30 | Saroz | oookay |
| 19:59.33 | Saroz | I might actually be right |
| 19:59.42 | [dRaCo] | is that guy really uploading the libs to svn? |
| 19:59.56 | Saroz | all do on their first mod |
| 20:00.05 | Ominous | i didnt oO |
| 20:00.14 | Ominous | i just spent ages trying to get libs working |
| 20:00.23 | Ominous | s/libs/externals/ |
| 20:01.17 | haste | Fisker-: /f/ sucks as always, remind me on it later |
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| 20:03.14 | Fisker- | will you show me later? :O |
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| 20:08.31 | haste | prolly |
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| 20:10.46 | CIA-14 | 03madrak * r47983 10ORLIC/Libs/: ORLIC: uploading 1.0 initial release of ORLIC to SVN. |
| 20:11.49 | haste | "many initial releases later..." |
| 20:12.16 | [dRaCo] | what does that addon do anyway? |
| 20:12.30 | haste | atm, nothing |
| 20:12.47 | [dRaCo] | what's it supposed to do once it's done? |
| 20:12.52 | ZealotOnAStick | Obstinate Redundant Literacy & Intelligence Check. |
| 20:12.53 | ulic | it's some kind of loot request system for raids |
| 20:13.11 | Chompers | so Ominous: i downloaded both lua and lua-socket, should both be extracted to the same folder? |
| 20:14.23 | Ominous | Chompers: dosent matter, you have to set paths up |
| 20:14.36 | Ominous | read lua socket install as its ages since i did it on xp |
| 20:14.43 | ulic | Ominous: are you still updating Cart_data? |
| 20:14.58 | Ominous | ulic: ofc |
| 20:15.03 | Ominous | it should happen later |
| 20:15.19 | CIA-14 | 03madrak * r47984 10ORLIC/ (44 files in 15 dirs): ORLIC: Initial upload of first release, hopefully svn:eol-style fixed |
| 20:15.20 | Chompers | fair enough |
| 20:15.23 | Ominous | i need to reform how the data updates into the saved vars i know |
| 20:15.26 | ulic | somehow all the adamantite in Netherstorm went poof. |
| 20:15.47 | CIA-14 | 03madrak * r47985 10ORLIC/AceAddon-2.0.lua: ORLIC: uploading 1.0 initial release of ORLIC to SVN. |
| 20:15.57 | CIA-14 | 03madrak * r47986 10ORLIC/AceAddon-2.0.toc: ORLIC: uploading 1.0 initial release of ORLIC to SVN. |
| 20:16.04 | ulic | seriously though |
| 20:16.36 | kergoth | we have an svn sandbox for a reason, itd be nice if new svn folks used it instead of spamming the hell out of us |
| 20:16.49 | Funkeh` | Or were actually on irc... |
| 20:16.57 | ZealotOnAStick | and/or if they'd get on IRC before doing stuff. |
| 20:17.06 | Funkeh` | ZealotOnAStick: too slow |
| 20:17.09 | Josh_Borke | what happened to the room for cia commits? |
| 20:17.09 | ZealotOnAStick | or read the howto stuff on the wiki . . . |
| 20:17.18 | ZealotOnAStick | it's there. #wowace-cia |
| 20:17.21 | RaydenUni | the latest WAU is an installer? where does it install? |
| 20:17.47 | Funkeh` | In a random location in %username%\Local settings\apps |
| 20:18.37 | RaydenUni | uh, where do i run it from? |
| 20:18.42 | RaydenUni | it puts an exe somewhere right? |
| 20:18.52 | Funkeh` | erm |
| 20:18.55 | Funkeh` | It says when you install it |
| 20:18.58 | Funkeh` | Did you read it? |
| 20:19.03 | RaydenUni | no... i don't think it does |
| 20:19.04 | Josh_Borke | but why stil have commits echo here if it's now going there |
| 20:19.06 | RaydenUni | i'll install again and look |
| 20:19.07 | Funkeh` | Yes, it does |
| 20:19.14 | Funkeh` | Its in the start menu |
| 20:19.18 | Funkeh` | Like every other program |
| 20:19.55 | ZealotOnAStick | that room is someone's little project, for those that -only- want to see commit messages and no chat. |
| 20:20.01 | ZealotOnAStick | there's not an inverse of it. |
| 20:20.26 | RaydenUni | so there is a link in the start menu |
| 20:20.31 | RaydenUni | where does that link to? it doesn't tell me |
| 20:20.32 | CIA-14 | 03ammo 07Alpha * r47987 10Ace3/AceAddon-3.0/AceAddon-3.0.lua: Ace3: AceAddon-3.0 - spaces -> tabs again |
| 20:20.41 | Funkeh` | It links to the program |
| 20:20.48 | RaydenUni | which is where? |
| 20:20.58 | Silviu- | Wtf is this ORLIC thing |
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| 20:21.01 | ZealotOnAStick | you could always just either ignore the cia bot or something. |
| 20:21.09 | Funkeh` | <Funkeh`>In a random location in %username%\Local settings\apps |
| 20:21.19 | RaydenUni | ... |
| 20:21.28 | Funkeh` | What exactly is the problem? |
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| 20:21.49 | RaydenUni | it installed under local settings? |
| 20:21.53 | Funkeh` | Use it via the starm menu or copy and paste the start menu shortcut somewhere |
| 20:22.05 | Ominous | Orlic isnt even going to appear in files arm |
| 20:22.07 | Ominous | atm* |
| 20:22.11 | Funkeh` | Yes, its uses the ClickOnce install directory and therefor is random |
| 20:22.12 | Chaoslux | So.. you guys releasing Ace3? |
| 20:22.20 | RaydenUni | never seen that before |
| 20:22.21 | RaydenUni | ok |
| 20:22.29 | RaydenUni | i see it doesn't like me to run the exe directly |
| 20:22.39 | Ominous | Orlic's descriptison = ## Notes: Occam's Razor Loot Interest Communicator (ORLIC) |
| 20:22.45 | Funkeh` | I wouldn't have a clue I jsut use the shortcut |
| 20:23.01 | RaydenUni | i'm assuming installing *.43 over *.42 will overwrite as appropriate |
| 20:23.03 | Silviu- | Ominous yeah verry "intuitive" .. but still .. ;) |
| 20:23.12 | Ominous | yep :D |
| 20:23.20 | Silviu- | And he also uploaded all libs |
| 20:23.32 | Silviu- | Instead of pointing them to svn ;) |
| 20:23.34 | Funkeh` | RaydenUni: No, .42 is independant, delete it |
| 20:23.39 | ravagernl | anyone got some nice cowtip sv's for me? fresh install :) |
| 20:23.40 | Funkeh` | RaydenUni: Its at .44 now |
| 20:23.49 | RaydenUni | i just went to SF, where is .44? |
| 20:23.55 | Silviu- | ravagernl me ! |
| 20:24.05 | ravagernl | ok, pastey please :P |
| 20:24.10 | Funkeh` | http://www.wowace.com/wau/1.9/publish.htm |
| 20:24.20 | Funkeh` | Uninstal .43 from the control panel add/remove |
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| 20:24.40 | Silviu- | ravagernl http://ace.pastey.net/73304 |
| 20:24.53 | ravagernl | thanks :) |
| 20:25.09 | Chaoslux | Oh yeah, about WAU, i got the install setup thingy, and when it start download files, it just errors |
| 20:25.23 | Chaoslux | Yesterday it was working fine =[ |
| 20:25.24 | Silviu- | ravagernl tell me how it looks after :) |
| 20:25.30 | Stan__ | ckknight: . |
| 20:25.35 | Stan__ | Date: 2007-09-02 22:24:38 |
| 20:25.35 | Stan__ | ID: 51 |
| 20:25.35 | Stan__ | Error occured in: Global |
| 20:25.35 | Stan__ | Count: 1 |
| 20:25.35 | Stan__ | Message: ..\AddOns\LibRock-1.0\LibRock-1.0.lua line 2435: |
| 20:25.35 | Stan__ | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:25.37 | Stan__ | Debug: |
| 20:25.37 | Chaoslux | but i had to cancel it mid-download since it was so late :/ |
| 20:25.39 | Stan__ | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:25.41 | Stan__ | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:25.43 | nogudnik | Speaking of committing a new addon to SVN, is http://www.wowace.com/wiki/SVN_For_Beginners still reasonable up to date? |
| 20:25.54 | Funkeh` | Stan__: Why are you even using it? |
| 20:25.55 | ravagernl | stan__: ace.pastye.net |
| 20:25.58 | Ominous | Stan__: pastey FTW |
| 20:26.06 | Stan__ | weee |
| 20:26.07 | Stan__ | sry |
| 20:26.08 | ckknight | Stan__, >= 3 lines, use pastey |
| 20:26.14 | Stan__ | k |
| 20:26.26 | ravagernl | and buggrabber > swatter also |
| 20:26.45 | RaydenUni | and i'm guessing that just because ckknight said 3 lines, doesn't mean i ought to type: 1; 2; 3 :D; |
| 20:26.54 | ckknight | lol |
| 20:27.04 | ckknight | hai |
| 20:27.04 | ckknight | guise |
| 20:27.11 | RaydenUni | a |
| 20:27.12 | RaydenUni | s |
| 20:27.13 | RaydenUni | l? |
| 20:27.18 | RaydenUni | hmm |
| 20:27.21 | ravagernl | O |
| 20:27.21 | RaydenUni | error attempting to install |
| 20:27.31 | ckknight | Stan__, main issue is that I don't have WoW installed on this comp |
| 20:27.51 | RaydenUni | how do i determine my .NET version? |
| 20:27.52 | ravagernl | L |
| 20:27.54 | ravagernl | O |
| 20:27.55 | ravagernl | L |
| 20:27.57 | ravagernl | :P |
| 20:28.01 | RaydenUni | 4 lines! ban! |
| 20:28.02 | Funkeh` | shut up |
| 20:28.04 | Funkeh` | please |
| 20:28.07 | Silviu- | ravagernl ? ;) |
| 20:28.13 | Funkeh` | RaydenUni: Are you using firefox? |
| 20:28.16 | RaydenUni | yes |
| 20:28.19 | RaydenUni | does it not work in FF? |
| 20:28.22 | Funkeh` | Do you have the plugin? |
| 20:28.23 | RaydenUni | the download of setup? |
| 20:28.25 | RaydenUni | what plugin? |
| 20:28.29 | ravagernl | silviu-: was reacting to ckk :) |
| 20:28.43 | sylvanaar | uninstall .44 i just updated it |
| 20:28.48 | RaydenUni | oh clickonce |
| 20:28.53 | Funkeh` | RaydenUni: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/1608 |
| 20:28.57 | RaydenUni | i'm not familiar with clickonce |
| 20:29.01 | RaydenUni | dangit |
| 20:29.08 | RaydenUni | Funkeh` let me restart xchat and then send me that link |
| 20:29.17 | Funkeh` | sylvanaar: can you please forward the .43 page to .44 |
| 20:29.23 | sylvanaar | soon |
| 20:29.25 | *** join/#wowace RaydenUni (n=bozartmp@cpe-74-74-225-9.rochester.res.rr.com) |
| 20:29.38 | RaydenUni | ok go |
| 20:29.41 | Funkeh` | https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/1608 |
| 20:30.10 | Funkeh` | Then when you click install click the run clickonce application |
| 20:30.21 | Olison | quick question: do you know of a "soft-ignore" mod, that keeps whispers and stuff from unliked people away but in a way that they dont get the "$Name is ignoring you" message... |
| 20:30.39 | ravagernl | silviu-: why is there a line between two dogtag strings :P |
| 20:31.36 | RaydenUni | what does "update with externals" mean? |
| 20:32.00 | ravagernl | raydenuni, it means that libraries get downloaded with it |
| 20:32.09 | RaydenUni | why would you not do that? |
| 20:32.33 | ravagernl | so you can run ace2 addons with ace2 as optional dependency |
| 20:32.39 | Chaoslux | well, maybe to use StandAloneLibs or something like that >.> |
| 20:32.39 | ravagernl | and it speeds up loading time |
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| 20:34.36 | ravagernl | raydenuni: http://wowace.com/wiki/Ace2_Memory_Concerns |
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| 20:35.37 | ravagernl | libraries are also load on demand so if you disable the only addon that relies on a library, that library isn't loaded |
| 20:37.35 | Silviu- | ravagernl where ? |
| 20:38.18 | ravagernl | between 3th and 4th line silviu- |
| 20:39.56 | Silviu- | ravagernl at me is not so :) |
| 20:40.01 | ravagernl | hmm |
| 20:40.15 | Silviu- | Strange |
| 20:40.16 | Silviu- | ;) |
| 20:40.21 | art3mis | pssst |
| 20:40.36 | art3mis | whats that addon that lets you "gag" people without ignoring them |
| 20:40.58 | art3mis | so you dont see thier whispers and stuff but doesnt send a message to them that you're ignoring em |
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| 20:43.02 | sylvanaar | nice the clickonce manifests have been updated |
| 20:43.03 | CIA-14 | 03ckknight * r47988 10Babble-2.2-Compat/ (10 files in 2 dirs): |
| 20:43.03 | CIA-14 | Babble-2.2-Compat - initial commit. |
| 20:43.03 | CIA-14 | This is meant to be a compatibility layer so that you can install LibBabble-3.0 and this and be able to update your addon with minimal work. |
| 20:43.03 | CIA-14 | e.g. before: local BZ = AceLibrary("Babble-Zone-2.2"); after: local BZ = AceLibrary("Babble-Zone-2.2-Compat") |
| 20:43.05 | CIA-14 | Note: only Babble-Zone-2.2 is supported, but eventually the rest will be. |
| 20:43.21 | asmodai | *flips the bird at the fora* |
| 20:43.32 | asmodai | I seriously wonder how on earth stuff keeps breaking at Blizzard |
| 20:43.35 | ckknight | hey asmodai |
| 20:43.45 | ckknight | isn't it obvious? |
| 20:43.47 | ckknight | goblins |
| 20:43.56 | Recluse | lol |
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| 20:44.36 | asmodai | ckknight: Gotta be |
| 20:44.45 | asmodai | can't login right now |
| 20:44.54 | asmodai | Found another cute content bug on their website too :D |
| 20:45.34 | ckknight | oh? |
| 20:45.38 | asmodai | Oh, nice, I *can* login to the manage account |
| 20:45.53 | asmodai | ckknight: Yeah, reward specified: required <faction> - hated |
| 20:45.56 | asmodai | seems doubtful to me ;) |
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| 20:48.43 | Recluse | i need to make ls.bat and pwd.bat for my vista, going to go nuts |
| 20:48.49 | ckknight | lol |
| 20:48.51 | Pkekyo | FOR FUCKS FUCKING SAKE |
| 20:49.03 | ckknight | please, think of the fucks |
| 20:49.15 | Pkekyo | piece of shit bank's websites are fuckedup |
| 20:49.18 | Pkekyo | can't get to my money |
| 20:49.19 | Pkekyo | raah |
| 20:49.52 | Ominous | it makes no sense, vista has rmdir but not rm |
| 20:50.26 | Recluse | hehe |
| 20:50.54 | Recluse | not just rmdir but rd as well |
| 20:51.40 | kergoth | thats not just vista |
| 20:52.20 | nogudnik | Recluse: try www.cygwin.com |
| 20:53.36 | Recluse | if i 'svn co' and it gives me local copies of the libs, those libs won't 'svn ci' into the repo will they? (yes, lib dir is svn:externals flagged) |
| 20:53.45 | Ominous | no |
| 20:54.36 | Recluse | i just need to start sshing to my linux box, it'd solve that problem XD |
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| 20:55.56 | Recluse | Ominous: ty, wanted to double check 'fore i screw up (new to svn and externals, long-time cvs user) |
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| 20:57.12 | Xinhuan | Mecdemort: here? |
| 20:57.22 | Mecdemort | yaho lord helmet |
| 20:57.58 | Xinhuan | [9/3 02:49:02] <Mecdemort> ya for some reason BANKFRAME_CLOSED and MAIL_CLOSED are always fired twice, tho i can't find any difference in state between the 2 fires |
| 20:58.03 | Xinhuan | i was reading a few hours ago ;p |
| 20:58.08 | Xinhuan | they don't always fire twice |
| 20:58.21 | Xinhuan | walking away from a mailbox, for example, will fire it twice |
| 20:58.23 | Mecdemort | i've yet to see them not, cuz it would severly break my addon ;p |
| 20:58.25 | Xinhuan | but closing the mailbox |
| 20:58.29 | Xinhuan | without walking away from it |
| 20:58.32 | Xinhuan | only fires it once |
| 20:58.36 | Mecdemort | hmm |
| 20:58.42 | Xinhuan | the way to do it would be to register BANKFRAME_CLOSED and MAIL_CLOSED |
| 20:58.46 | Xinhuan | on the respect OPEN events |
| 20:58.55 | Xinhuan | and unregister it after doing whatever you want on the CLOSE events |
| 20:59.04 | Xinhuan | so the 2nd close event won't trigger your function |
| 20:59.12 | Xinhuan | respective* |
| 20:59.23 | Mecdemort | hmm |
| 20:59.27 | Mecdemort | well let me test that real quick |
| 20:59.45 | Xinhuan | alternatively, you can have your CLOSE event assign a function you want to be run once on ONUPDATE |
| 20:59.47 | RaydenUni | is there a site saying which BG is this weekend? |
| 21:00.04 | Recluse | worldofwarcarft.com's event calendar |
| 21:00.07 | Gngsk | google wow event calendar |
| 21:00.08 | Xinhuan | and have the ONUPDATE function unassign itself when it runs on the next frame update |
| 21:00.20 | Mecdemort | if it really is as such ill just register a bucket event |
| 21:00.26 | Ominous | i wish there was wget in vista too and unzip :P |
| 21:00.37 | Xinhuan | a bucket event is bad because it is essentially just a bunch of onupdates running inside ace2 |
| 21:00.38 | RaydenUni | thanks |
| 21:00.47 | theoddone33 | you can just look at the roaming battlemasters standing all over too |
| 21:00.52 | Xinhuan | that runs your function when ace2 thinks its time to run it |
| 21:01.05 | Recluse | wget is insanely handy. iirc there is a w32 binary for it somewhere out there |
| 21:01.07 | Xinhuan | no need to complicate your addon |
| 21:01.11 | Mecdemort | hmm |
| 21:01.17 | Xinhuan | i've offered 2 alternatives ;p |
| 21:01.35 | Xinhuan | the second alternative is commonly used for UNIT_INVENTORY_CHANGED |
| 21:01.37 | Mecdemort | i think ill use the open events |
| 21:01.37 | Xinhuan | because it fires a lot |
| 21:03.19 | Xinhuan | yeah better to do it that way |
| 21:03.38 | Mecdemort | "MAIL_SHOW" and "BANKFRAME_OPENED" ? |
| 21:03.49 | Xinhuan | thing so, i forgot the open event names |
| 21:03.55 | Xinhuan | think* |
| 21:04.05 | Xinhuan | because using a boolean will break your addon if you get summoned away, or if you zone into a BG, i'm not sure if the close events fire |
| 21:04.11 | Xinhuan | at all |
| 21:04.31 | Xinhuan | you can simply unregister the CLOSE events on a PLAYER_ENTERING_WORLD in this case |
| 21:05.00 | Mecdemort | well is there an error for registering an event twice? |
| 21:05.03 | Xinhuan | nope |
| 21:05.08 | Mecdemort | then i dont even need to worry about it |
| 21:05.12 | Ominous | woot found wget for windows |
| 21:05.21 | Xinhuan | there is no error for registering events that don't exist either |
| 21:05.22 | Xinhuan | ;p |
| 21:05.32 | CIA-14 | 03ckknight 07Joker * r47989 10DogTag-1.0/LibDogTag-1.0/LibDogTag-1.0.lua: |
| 21:05.32 | CIA-14 | LibDogTag-1.0 - change Joker references to Rock |
| 21:05.32 | CIA-14 | - remove Rock dependency, now framework-agnostic. |
| 21:05.32 | CIA-14 | - embed LibStub. |
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| 21:07.10 | Xinhuan | basically, the event is fired twice, because --i think--, the first of the pair is to tell you, it is closing and to do any last minute LUA stuff. the second event of the pair says that it has closed, and the information is no longer available |
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| 21:07.28 | Xinhuan | or at least, no longer up to date |
| 21:07.34 | Mecdemort | so since theres libstub now, do libraries need rock for anything in particular? |
| 21:07.39 | ckknight | yes, Mecdemort |
| 21:07.43 | ckknight | Rock has a lot of useful extras |
| 21:07.50 | ckknight | I'm only moving a few libraries to library-agnostic |
| 21:07.57 | Mecdemort | pl |
| 21:07.58 | Mecdemort | ok* |
| 21:08.10 | Mecdemort | Xinhuan: you'd think so, but all data is still available on the 2nd fire |
| 21:08.21 | Xinhuan | yeah, but the data won't be "updated" |
| 21:08.22 | ckknight | DogTag because it was requested, so that multiple different addons can use it, but it uses Rock-specific things if available |
| 21:08.32 | Josh_Borke | ckknight: i've started listing Libs that use LibStub on the wowwiki page if you want to link from there |
| 21:08.43 | Xinhuan | the data will be "as is" last known |
| 21:08.44 | ckknight | Babble, because it's handy to have a framework/community-agnostic translation set |
| 21:08.51 | ckknight | and I'm gonna see if I can do Parser-3.0 |
| 21:08.56 | ckknight | but it's tough, since it's a mixin. |
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| 21:09.12 | Xinhuan | anyway, other than that, i don't know why they fire twice sometimes, and once at others |
| 21:09.42 | Chaoslux | Hey ckknight: if, in the later versions of Rock, there is a found glitch that would need to break compatibility to change, would you do it or try to keep the same "NoCompatibilityBreaking" rules that Ace uses? |
| 21:09.49 | Chaoslux | if there is a found glitch* |
| 21:10.04 | Mecdemort | it would be nice to standardize a way to abstract out all the locale info so we can nuke the ones that arent ours or WAU can automate it |
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| 21:10.31 | ckknight | Chaoslux, depends on my mood. It actually depends on how many people use the API, whether they can be fixed, etc. I'd also do a time-bombed fix where it breaks on a patchday instead of just some arbitrary day |
| 21:10.33 | Xinhuan | i'll say that depends on how severe the glitch is Chaoslux |
| 21:10.42 | ckknight | yes, and the severity of the glitch |
| 21:10.50 | ckknight | either way, it'd be about minimizing damage |
| 21:11.44 | Chaoslux | So, you would break compatibility on patch day and blame the patch for it? XD |
| 21:11.59 | ckknight | people update on patch day anyway |
| 21:12.11 | ckknight | and if it breaks on patch day, they'll think it's commonplace |
| 21:12.17 | ckknight | and minimization of damage overall |
| 21:12.29 | Chaoslux | true |
| 21:12.39 | Mecdemort | Xinhuan: somethin like: self:RegisterEvent("MAIL_SHOW", function() self:RegisterEvent("MAIL_CLOSED") end) right? |
| 21:12.47 | Xinhuan | yep |
| 21:12.49 | Cidan | POOLS CLOSED |
| 21:12.54 | ckknight | Cidan, ? |
| 21:12.59 | Cidan | Never mind, :D |
| 21:13.01 | Cidan | How is everyone? |
| 21:13.05 | ckknight | peachy |
| 21:13.09 | Josh_Borke | ~lart Cidan |
| 21:13.09 | purl | takes Cidan to the vet for a "special" visit |
| 21:13.11 | Cidan | Sounds kinky. |
| 21:13.16 | Cidan | OoOoO |
| 21:13.16 | Cidan | :D |
| 21:13.27 | ckknight | you'd be surprised |
| 21:13.30 | Xinhuan | then in your mail_closed fucntion and player_entering_world, unregister mail_closed |
| 21:14.01 | Mecdemort | yup, tho i dont need the player_entering_world |
| 21:14.23 | Mecdemort | to my knowledge the close can never fire before the open again, so it shouldnt matter |
| 21:14.30 | Xinhuan | ya |
| 21:15.01 | Mecdemort | hmm |
| 21:15.13 | Chaoslux | Also, i downloaded the Install_WAU.zip file, extracted the setup and whatever file given with it, and i run the install, i get this error: |
| 21:15.15 | Chaoslux | An error occurred downloading the following resource: |
| 21:15.15 | Chaoslux | http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=37283 |
| 21:15.22 | Chaoslux | Any fixes? |
| 21:15.31 | Mecdemort | self:RegisterEvent("MAIL_SHOW", function() self:RegisterEvent("MAIL_CLOSED") end, true) and that should make it so i dont even have to call unregister right? |
| 21:15.50 | Mecdemort | err the true needs to be in the MAIL_CLOSED i guess |
| 21:16.50 | Xinhuan | you only need to unregister MAIL_CLOSED in your MAIL_CLOSED function so the 2nd of the pair of events doesn't run |
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| 21:17.34 | Mecdemort | right, but passing true to the register event for closed should make it only fire once no? |
| 21:17.43 | ckknight | yes, Mecdemort |
| 21:17.49 | ckknight | though what you're doing is hackish and icky. |
| 21:17.49 | Xinhuan | i think they are removing that boolean in ace3 |
| 21:17.53 | Xinhuan | not sure about that |
| 21:17.55 | Mecdemort | how so? |
| 21:18.04 | ckknight | I've been contemplating removing it from Rock, Xinhuan |
| 21:18.10 | ckknight | vhaarr suggested it |
| 21:18.16 | ckknight | and really, there's no good use case for it |
| 21:18.35 | Mecdemort | well it seems to come in usefull when you need 1 listener to register another listener only once |
| 21:18.44 | Xinhuan | the case from vhaarr is that if you just want to have an event run once, you just unregister it in the event listener function itself |
| 21:18.50 | Xinhuan | its more efficient |
| 21:18.52 | Xinhuan | and faster |
| 21:18.55 | ckknight | yea |
| 21:19.18 | Mecdemort | oh, if its more efficient and faster than ya, make em do it |
| 21:19.50 | ckknight | currently, (in Rock), you can supply true (for once, might be removed) or a number, which means turn it into a bucketed event |
| 21:22.13 | Xinhuan | what addon are you writing Mec? |
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| 21:23.57 | Chompers | ckk: can you help me to understand this line? |
| 21:23.59 | Chompers | LUA_PATH=<LDIR>/?.lua;?.lua |
| 21:24.07 | Elkano | Mecdemort wrote eg Baggins_AnywhereBags |
| 21:24.29 | Elkano | don't know what he's currently trying though |
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| 21:24.50 | Mecdemort | the same, tweaking it and now fixing xinhuans thing |
| 21:24.58 | Xinhuan | ah |
| 21:25.12 | CIA-14 | 03ckknight 07Joker * r47990 10DogTag-1.0/LibDogTag-1.0/ (DogTag-1.0.toc embeds.xml lib.xml): LibDogTag-1.0 - remove unneeded files, add lib.xml |
| 21:25.19 | Xinhuan | i know these issues only because i have a similar addon written ;p |
| 21:26.29 | Pkekyo | ckknight: didn't you rename joker? or running rock and joker projects simultaneously? |
| 21:26.43 | ckknight | I renamed Joker to Rock |
| 21:26.47 | CIA-14 | 03mecdemort * r47991 10Baggins_AnywhereBags/Core.lua: |
| 21:26.47 | CIA-14 | Baggins_AnywhereBags: - Bank and mail will correctly update when the frames close. |
| 21:26.47 | CIA-14 | - Purging the current player will no longer cause nil errors. |
| 21:26.47 | CIA-14 | - Several speed optimizations throughout. |
| 21:26.48 | ckknight | that's just a branch I need to rename |
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| 21:27.00 | ckknight | it actually is framework-agnostic now (doesn't require Ace or Joker) |
| 21:27.11 | Pkekyo | ah |
| 21:29.28 | Mecdemort | hmm what to make now |
| 21:31.11 | Xinhuan | make a pug aq40 run ;p |
| 21:31.18 | Mecdemort | meh |
| 21:31.31 | Mecdemort | BT is so much better |
| 21:32.18 | Xinhuan | zzz stuck on kaelthas |
| 21:32.29 | Mecdemort | ya took us a few days to get him |
| 21:32.50 | Xinhuan | i'm cancelling SSC raids next week so we can spend 4 nights on kaelthas |
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| 21:33.00 | Mecdemort | good idea |
| 21:33.04 | Gamefaq | hi |
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| 21:33.12 | Mecdemort | unless your aoe sucks, then get them more gear ;p |
| 21:33.21 | Xinhuan | i hope that pays off |
| 21:33.36 | Xinhuan | all i'll have incessant whines about "skipping epics" |
| 21:33.38 | Xinhuan | or* |
| 21:34.23 | Mecdemort | just ask them if they're in a raiding guild or a farming guild that always works |
| 21:34.51 | Xinhuan | i told them "i want to see black temple, do you?" |
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| 21:35.34 | Xinhuan | it means no t5 helm for me :( |
| 21:39.38 | CIA-14 | 03ckknight 07Joker * r47992 10LibSharedMedia-1.0/LibSharedMedia-1.0/ (5 files): |
| 21:39.38 | CIA-14 | LibSharedMedia-1.0 - bump to LibSharedMedia-2.0 |
| 21:39.38 | CIA-14 | - now framework agnostic |
| 21:39.38 | CIA-14 | - no longer dispatch events. |
| 21:39.38 | CIA-14 | - add lib.xml |
| 21:41.51 | Ominous | ckknight: when you say framework agnostic does that mean it uses libstub ? |
| 21:42.02 | ckknight | yes |
| 21:42.05 | Mecdemort | no, it doesnt believe in the framework gods |
| 21:42.12 | ckknight | but not Ace/Rock/Dongle |
| 21:42.21 | Ominous | ckknight: so what difference does that make for the use of it? |
| 21:42.21 | CIA-14 | 03ckknight * r47993 10/ (2 files in 2 dirs): LibSharedMedia-2.0 - moving to trunk |
| 21:42.35 | ckknight | Ominous, well, any community can use it |
| 21:42.46 | Ominous | i mean as in for developers |
| 21:42.47 | Gnarfoz | both of them, yes |
| 21:43.12 | ckknight | Ominous, coding-wise, not much |
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| 21:43.33 | ckknight | to developers who are using it, it'll just feel like a name change |
| 21:43.41 | Ominous | so do you have to do local SM = LibStub("LibSharedMedia-2.0")? |
| 21:43.42 | ckknight | AceLibrary("LibSharedMedia-2.0") works fine |
| 21:43.47 | Ominous | ah i see |
| 21:43.59 | ckknight | LibStub("LibSharedMedia-2.0") does the same |
| 21:44.04 | ckknight | or Rock("LibSharedMedia-2.0") |
| 21:44.08 | Ominous | kk |
| 21:44.10 | ckknight | whatever you're into |
| 21:44.29 | ckknight | also, Rock("AceLibrary") == AceLibrary |
| 21:44.35 | nevcairiel | using the direct LibStub call is the universal way todo it :) |
| 21:44.35 | ckknight | AceLibrary("LibRock-1.0") == Rock |
| 21:44.40 | ckknight | right. |
| 21:44.56 | sylvanaar | wau on the main link has been signed with a new key - this means that most likely you will have to reinstall it |
| 21:45.14 | sylvanaar | but its live http://www.wowace.com/wau/publish.htm |
| 21:45.36 | Xinhuan | whats new sylvanaar? |
| 21:45.57 | sylvanaar | the key used to sign the app |
| 21:46.15 | Xinhuan | no i mean, what features are added? or is it just the signature change? |
| 21:47.10 | sylvanaar | this is mostly just a better deployment - only a couple minor fixes otherwise |
| 21:49.12 | Stan__ | ckknight: will SharedMedia 2 replace SM1? |
| 21:49.24 | ckknight | that's the idea |
| 21:49.37 | art3mis | get PartyUI:Current();set Rock("Out");switch neightbor();call COPS:FastLoad();clear PartyUI:Current(); |
| 21:49.48 | Ominous | are you going to modify SharedMedia so the new one has all the textures as well |
| 21:49.56 | CIA-14 | 03ckknight 07Joker * r47994 10DogTag-1.0/LibDogTag-1.0/ (5 files): |
| 21:49.56 | CIA-14 | LibDogTag-1.0 - :RegisterFontString -> :AddFontString |
| 21:49.56 | CIA-14 | - :UnregisterFontString -> :RemoveFontString |
| 21:49.56 | CIA-14 | - bump version to LibDogTag-2.0 |
| 21:50.04 | Mecdemort | sylvanaar: so uninstall/reinstall or just install over itself? |
| 21:50.06 | Ominous | ckknight: ^^? |
| 21:50.22 | ckknight | Ominous, already done |
| 21:50.35 | Ominous | ohh kl |
| 21:50.35 | ckknight | wait, the addon? |
| 21:50.48 | ckknight | yea, that'll happen in a little while |
| 21:50.53 | Ominous | ah, k |
| 21:51.32 | sylvanaar | Mecdemort i would uninstall it |
| 21:51.55 | CIA-14 | 03ckknight * r47995 10/ (2 files in 2 dirs): LibDogTag-2.0 - moving to trunk |
| 21:53.25 | Xinhuan | does it really need to be bumped a version number to 2.0, if its still compatible with ace2? |
| 21:54.27 | Ominous | yes as it is compatible with other stuff |
| 21:54.32 | art3mis | hey ckk |
| 21:54.34 | Funkeh` | sylvanaar: mine isn't crashing or giving me errors, according to your post, I have the .44 from ages ago |
| 21:54.51 | art3mis | i meant to ask you a bit earlier, any chance that you could make parrot colour config a bit easier? |
| 21:55.07 | art3mis | instead of having to go through 4 layers of options to get to it? |
| 21:55.08 | sylvanaar | what version are you on |
| 21:56.03 | sylvanaar | this applies to people on 43 Funkeh`, they will start to crash |
| 21:56.18 | Funkeh` | So I don't need to reinstall do I? |
| 21:56.24 | sylvanaar | 44 you just uninstall and install from http://www.wowace.com/wau/publish.htm |
| 21:56.26 | Funkeh` | I'm on 1.9.44.639 |
| 21:56.50 | sylvanaar | you can install both even |
| 21:57.05 | Funkeh` | theres 2? |
| 21:57.21 | sylvanaar | they are in different locations so they are treated as 2 |
| 21:57.32 | Funkeh` | So make them one? |
| 21:57.37 | sylvanaar | the main link has the lastest |
| 21:57.49 | sylvanaar | http://www.wowace.com/wau/publish.htm |
| 21:57.51 | Punkie` | ckknight: you should bump the toc to say DogTag-2.0 too :p |
| 21:57.52 | Funkeh` | Why did you make the 1.9 link then? |
| 21:58.00 | ckknight | Punkie`, whoops |
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| 21:58.15 | sylvanaar | so i could do some testing |
| 21:58.17 | art3mis | ckknight: can ya huh huh? |
| 21:58.31 | ckknight | ? |
| 21:58.33 | Funkeh` | Right well fuck that I've done enough harrasing of my guild members |
| 21:58.33 | CIA-14 | 03ckknight 07Rock * r47996 10CowTip/CowTip/ (6 files in 6 dirs): CowTip - upgrade LibDogTag/LibSharedMedia references |
| 21:58.46 | art3mis | global colour settings on parrot |
| 21:58.56 | art3mis | or an easier way to get to all the colour options for things |
| 21:59.02 | art3mis | like say a "colours" tab |
| 21:59.20 | sylvanaar | well - i was planning on keeping it there, but - there isnt a real need to anymore |
| 21:59.21 | art3mis | instead of going through each type of thing to get to its colour option |
| 21:59.46 | Funkeh` | sylvanaar: forward the 1.9 to the standard one please |
| 21:59.56 | ckknight | art3mis, hrm |
| 21:59.58 | sylvanaar | the publish page |
| 22:00.07 | Funkeh` | yes |
| 22:00.13 | sylvanaar | i cant redirect the actual update |
| 22:00.21 | Funkeh` | Not the update just the page |
| 22:00.29 | CIA-14 | 03phanx * r47997 10OnScreenHealth/ (OnScreenHealth.lua OnScreenHealth.toc embeds.xml): |
| 22:00.29 | CIA-14 | OnScreenHealth: |
| 22:00.29 | CIA-14 | - Fixed global "hide power" option |
| 22:00.29 | CIA-14 | - Added SharedMediaLib to optional deps |
| 22:00.29 | CIA-14 | - Moved externals to embeds.xml |
| 22:00.29 | sylvanaar | kk |
| 22:00.33 | Funkeh` | SO I don't need to go edit my posts on forums |
| 22:00.49 | art3mis | ckknight: just as a general design thing, grouping option types is generally better than functions so that all the colour settings are in one place, all the placement related all the font etc etc etc |
| 22:01.03 | ckknight | ah, perhaps |
| 22:01.09 | art3mis | makes it a bit easier than having to figure out the function you wanna change then its submenu and such |
| 22:01.38 | art3mis | didnt notice that til i was making hello kitty ;) |
| 22:01.40 | sylvanaar | can anyone pastey me a meta-refresh redirect? |
| 22:02.07 | sylvanaar | or can i use a symlink on the sirver |
| 22:02.15 | Funkeh` | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Meta_refresh |
| 22:02.15 | art3mis | heh go to curse and click any addon and then view source ;P |
| 22:02.33 | art3mis | cuz of thier gay look at this ad first crap |
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| 22:03.00 | sb | hmmm heya |
| 22:03.39 | sb | is it possible to kill solarian w/o arcan resistance tanks? :o |
| 22:03.52 | art3mis | ckknight: even a neat button like table that sct has only with colour select buttons would be awesome |
| 22:04.21 | Ominous | is there a command line program to unzip stuff in vista |
| 22:04.37 | Xinhuan | sb: currently no |
| 22:04.41 | Punkie` | what? |
| 22:04.47 | Punkie` | we dont use resistance tanks |
| 22:04.55 | Punkie` | we just zerg her |
| 22:04.56 | sylvanaar | i gotta send a get request to clear the cache |
| 22:06.28 | charon | Antiarc: i noticed my patch is broken (in case you haven't already), it fails to copy the foreground from the defaults. don't have the energy to fix it right now though |
| 22:07.37 | sb | Punkie`: mhh - you ignore that debuff? |
| 22:07.57 | Punkie` | sb: we just heal it? :o |
| 22:08.01 | Punkie` | it goes on random people |
| 22:08.12 | sb | hmhm okay ;o |
| 22:08.13 | Punkie` | phase 1 -> use all cooldowns zerg her, heroism etc |
| 22:08.19 | Punkie` | get to like 65% |
| 22:08.24 | Xinhuan | its easier if you have 2 resistance tank soakers - for healers at least |
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| 22:08.46 | Xinhuan | doesn't cost a lot to get AR gear on 2 ppl anyway |
| 22:08.50 | Punkie` | phase 2: aoe, kill priests, kill her rinse repeat |
| 22:08.54 | Punkie` | phase 3: walk in the park |
| 22:09.05 | Mecdemort | phase 3: mages tank ;p |
| 22:09.06 | Punkie` | Xinhuan: he only asked if it was possible, which it is :P |
| 22:09.13 | Xinhuan | alright, i give in ;p |
| 22:09.21 | Punkie` | we have a warrior tanking :o |
| 22:09.33 | Xinhuan | my guild uses a druid |
| 22:09.41 | sb | Punkie`: interesting :o |
| 22:09.53 | Xinhuan | to MT her |
| 22:09.59 | Xinhuan | and a pally for all the adds |
| 22:10.15 | Punkie` | we just use a combination of frost novas or so |
| 22:10.18 | Mecdemort | zerging is just way to much luck based, if you randomly get a couple dots on 1 person they're dead with no way to heal |
| 22:10.31 | Punkie` | dunno, it seems like the best tactic for us Mecdemort :P |
| 22:10.51 | Punkie` | we have good dps |
| 22:10.53 | Xinhuan | its very difficult for a healer to track who has te debuff |
| 22:10.55 | Xinhuan | to heal |
| 22:11.07 | Mecdemort | does your whole raid wear arcane resistance? |
| 22:11.09 | Punkie` | no |
| 22:11.10 | Punkie` | noone |
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| 22:11.35 | Mecdemort | ya i can just see 1 person getting 3 debuffs and instagibbed, and that would probably be me if we used that strat ;p |
| 22:11.43 | Ironhand | in Assessment, it seems that for effects that do not deal damage (such as Sunder Armor) only unsuccesful applications get listed, can anyone recommend how to show succesful applications as well? (I'm looking under Damage Dealt, am I simply looking in the wrong place?) |
| 22:11.58 | Punkie` | Mecdemort: how long does it take you to kill her on average? |
| 22:12.14 | art3mis | http://youtube.com/watch?v=CXtyYiI5HDk |
| 22:12.19 | Xinhuan | we kill her just as the debuff reaches 8 stacks normally |
| 22:12.35 | Punkie` | how long is that |
| 22:12.37 | Xinhuan | that's with 2 arcane tank soakers |
| 22:12.52 | Punkie` | our whole raid just hugs her |
| 22:12.52 | Stan__ | ckknight: any eta when u will replace cowtip with the Rock version? |
| 22:12.59 | Mecdemort | we maybe get 3-4 waves of adds i think |
| 22:13.05 | Mecdemort | 2-4 |
| 22:13.06 | Xinhuan | about 6 min 20 secs for full fight, and about 5 min 50 sec from pull to start of phase 3 |
| 22:13.15 | art3mis | hahaha he's got a deathklok tshirt |
| 22:13.23 | Xinhuan | you want to do 20-25% damage per wave of adds phase |
| 22:13.31 | Xinhuan | so you only have to do 3 waves of it |
| 22:13.37 | Xinhuan | its 2 stacks per wave |
| 22:13.45 | Punkie` | phase 2 starts for us @ 67% |
| 22:13.48 | Punkie` | roughly |
| 22:13.57 | Xinhuan | so we do phase 1-2-1-2-1-3 <-- thatgives about 8 stacks max |
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| 22:14.38 | Xinhuan | you will generally want to burn all your cooldowns right off the start |
| 22:14.57 | CIA-14 | 03jncl * r47998 10Skinner/ (4 files in 2 dirs): |
| 22:14.57 | CIA-14 | Skinner: Finally skinned FuBar_PoisonReminderFu |
| 22:14.57 | CIA-14 | - Removed FuBar_GarbageFu skin as it is no longer required |
| 22:14.57 | Xinhuan | so 70% is a good goal to aim for just as she enters the first phase 2 |
| 22:15.17 | Punkie` | all I know is, run in everyone hug her, stab & use cooldowns, run so you are square with the 3 light beams for AoE, kill priests, kill her and hug!, rinse & repeat, kill voidwalker |
| 22:15.38 | Xinhuan | that's the gist of it |
| 22:15.48 | Punkie` | we don't soak though |
| 22:16.01 | Punkie` | we just did her tonight and I was the only person who died |
| 22:16.04 | Xinhuan | and the 2 arcane soakers stand nearby on top of each other - and ppl with the debuff run to them, passes debuff, and runs back |
| 22:16.07 | Punkie` | because i got voidwalker to the face |
| 22:16.19 | Xinhuan | she's getting nerfed in a week anyway |
| 22:16.22 | Punkie` | yeah true |
| 22:16.24 | ckknight | Stan__, once I porta ll my major addons over to Rock, I'll call Rock released and then move from branches to trunk for the ported mods |
| 22:16.38 | Stan__ | k |
| 22:17.30 | ckknight | Stan__, and me porting these libraries to either Rock or framework-agnostic is a key part |
| 22:17.54 | art3mis | oh my god this interview rules! |
| 22:18.02 | CIA-14 | 03ckknight * r47999 10LibDogTag-2.0/ (LibDogTag-2.0.lua LibDogTag-2.0.toc): LibDogTag-2.0 - fix TOC name |
| 22:18.03 | Funkeh` | interview? |
| 22:18.11 | ckknight | hrm, art3mis? |
| 22:18.13 | ckknight | link |
| 22:18.41 | art3mis | hahahaha |
| 22:18.43 | Stan__ | ckknight: looking forward to it |
| 22:18.53 | art3mis | little fucking frost amge gnomes and you cant even fucking click em |
| 22:19.00 | art3mis | http://youtube.com/watch?v=CXtyYiI5HDk |
| 22:19.15 | kergoth | ckknight, how are you doing mixins, gonna use rock or just libstub + an embed method? |
| 22:19.28 | art3mis | it started as an ainterview with the lead singer of cannibal corpse at a metal concert |
| 22:19.36 | art3mis | and ended up him ranting about wow |
| 22:19.40 | ckknight | kergoth, well, there's no standard way to handle mixins with just LibStub, and things like OnEmbedDisable don't work, so I have to use Rock, for at least now |
| 22:20.14 | kergoth | i suppose some things that work as independent as well as mixin could be split, framework agnostic and the mixin part in rock |
| 22:20.22 | kergoth | thats cool though |
| 22:21.07 | Funkeh` | later |
| 22:21.30 | ckknight | actually not sure if that splitting the mixin and non-mixin parts would even work... |
| 22:24.00 | ckknight | lol, art3mis, he gets so angry |
| 22:24.25 | art3mis | isnt it awesome |
| 22:24.35 | art3mis | that is the single best death metal interview ever |
| 22:25.03 | art3mis | and it reminds me that i need a deathklok t-shirt |
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| 22:38.47 | CIA-14 | 03siz * r48000 10FuBar_AddonSpamFu/ (AddonSpamFu.lua FuBar_AddonSpamFu.toc): |
| 22:38.47 | CIA-14 | FuBar_AddonSpamFu: |
| 22:38.47 | CIA-14 | -Hopefully fixed empty tooltip after resetting when sorting by name |
| 22:38.47 | CIA-14 | -Added the ability to choose which chatframe to display messages in |
| 22:40.13 | CIA-14 | 03ckknight * r48001 10LibBabble-Spell-3.0/ (. LibBabble-Spell-3.0.lua LibBabble-Spell-3.0.toc lib.xml): LibBabble-Spell-3.0 - initial commit |
| 22:41.01 | CIA-14 | 03ckknight * r48002 10Babble-2.2-Compat/Babble-Spell-2.2-Compat/ (. Babble-Spell-2.2-Compat.lua Babble-Spell-2.2-Compat.toc): Babble-2.2-Compat - add Babble-Spell-2.2-Compat |
| 22:41.32 | Xinhuan | woo 48k commits |
| 22:41.47 | ckknight | yep |
| 22:42.18 | Xinhuan | won't the server take very long to process that many commits to get the "latest" version for some addons? |
| 22:42.39 | Xinhuan | since only changes are recorded |
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| 22:47.22 | Ominous | ckknight: should we update do use Babble-Spell-3.0 yet? |
| 22:47.51 | clad|away | Xinhuan: that's not how svn works, no it won't be slow. |
| 22:47.54 | ckknight | Ominous, I'm gonna say not yet, but please look at the API to see if it's adequate for your purposes |
| 22:48.03 | ckknight | I don't want to have to change it after people start using it |
| 22:48.20 | Ominous | ckknight: ok, all i use BS for is english --> other locales |
| 22:48.32 | Ominous | dont need any of the reverse translation stuff |
| 22:48.41 | Xinhuan | how does it work then, if it only records changes, and the svn doesn't start from revision 1? |
| 22:48.43 | ckknight | frankly, I doubt it'll change |
| 22:48.50 | ckknight | feel free to use it, but user beware |
| 22:48.55 | Ominous | kk |
| 22:49.05 | Ominous | also no autodocs for BS-3? |
| 22:49.23 | sylvanaar | cheap copies and merging |
| 22:49.23 | ckknight | hang on, working on it now |
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| 22:50.19 | break19 | general rule for me.. if CK has put into the trunk, and not branch.. its pretty usable, and generally rock solid. :p |
| 22:50.49 | break19 | unlike MY shit, which required 4 or 5 commits before I got it how I wanted it. lol |
| 22:50.54 | clad|away | Xinhuan: perhaps you should read the red book.. SVN isn't just a string of diffs applied to each other, to get the latest revision. |
| 22:51.18 | Xinhuan | yeah, perhaps i should ^^ |
| 22:51.19 | clad|away | s/red book/svn book/ |
| 22:52.11 | CIA-14 | 03ckknight * r48003 10LibBabble-Spell-3.0/LibBabble-Spell-3.0.lua: LibBabble-Spell-3.0 - add docs for :GetSpellIcon and :GetShortSpellIcon |
| 22:52.26 | abug | anyone use compostlib? |
| 22:52.30 | ckknight | nope |
| 22:52.45 | ckknight | abug, I put table recycling functions into Rock, though |
| 22:53.14 | abug | recycling seems inherently slower than making a new table |
| 22:53.25 | ckknight | true, but it prevents memory leaks |
| 22:53.31 | clad|away | why the name change from Joker to Rock? |
| 22:53.39 | ckknight | clad|away, sounded cooler |
| 22:53.54 | art3mis | i asked the same thing |
| 22:53.56 | clad|away | that's a matter of opinion, but i'll accept your answer either way |
| 22:54.06 | break19 | now we just need 2 more addons. Paper and Scissors |
| 22:54.11 | ckknight | clad|away, oh, btw, I finally got DogTag to not use AceLibrary, it now just uses LibStub |
| 22:54.11 | art3mis | i think yesterday was "eat as much paste as you can" |
| 22:54.13 | art3mis | day |
| 22:55.03 | break19 | that gives me an idea.. |
| 22:55.28 | Xinhuan | woo 2 stars of elune and a talasite from the monthly gem bag |
| 22:55.32 | break19 | I think I'm gonna make AceRPS Rock Paper Scissors game.. heh |
| 22:55.32 | Xinhuan | i win |
| 22:55.52 | ckknight | break19, I actually already did |
| 22:55.53 | art3mis | don forget the (tm) on Rock ;) |
| 22:55.55 | CIA-14 | 03ckknight * r48004 10LibBabble-Spell-3.0/LibBabble-Spell-3.0.lua: LibBabble-Spell-3.0 - force documentation of spell icon methods |
| 22:55.57 | break19 | do |
| 22:55.59 | break19 | doh |
| 22:56.06 | ckknight | it was to test AceComm-2.0 |
| 22:56.17 | break19 | I finally have an idea for an "original" addon, and it's alrdy been done :/ |
| 22:56.38 | art3mis | break |
| 22:56.40 | Xinhuan | break19: that is? |
| 22:56.44 | art3mis | raid Win Lose or Draw ;P |
| 22:56.57 | break19 | meh, I never did like that game. heh |
| 22:57.29 | break19 | i was thinking a tiered rock paper scissors tournament to replace the "dkp" thing.. hehe |
| 22:57.37 | art3mis | laugh |
| 22:57.55 | art3mis | i still think mario kart single lap as a replacement for loot rolls would own |
| 22:58.02 | break19 | lol |
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| 22:58.21 | break19 | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:58.35 | art3mis | in game sf2 ;P |
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| 22:59.15 | break19 | of course, to keep it balanced, you'd only duel someone of the same class.. |
| 22:59.33 | break19 | nvm, that'd be a bad idea. who'd want to wait 3 hours while a couple of holy pallys went at it |
| 22:59.58 | CIA-14 | 03ckknight * r48005 10LibGratuity-3.0/ (. LibGratuity-3.0.lua LibGratuity-3.0.toc lib.xml): |
| 22:59.58 | CIA-14 | LibGratuity-3.0 - initial commit. |
| 22:59.58 | CIA-14 | - basically stole Gratuity-2.0, bumped the version, took out the AceLibrary dependency, and changed the directory structure. |
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| 23:00.27 | yacoob | look who's back :> |
| 23:00.33 | ckknight | is it me? |
| 23:00.51 | Stan__ | lol |
| 23:00.54 | Stan__ | nice comment |
| 23:01.18 | yacoob | well, from my point of view, whole #wowace is back :D |
| 23:01.25 | yacoob | hi, welcome back! :) |
| 23:01.43 | ckknight | Stan__, I just need SpecialEvents-Aura and Parser-3.0 |
| 23:01.47 | ckknight | then Parrot will be ported |
| 23:01.53 | Stan__ | I love you |
| 23:02.17 | ckknight | not 100% sure how I want to handle SpecialEvents |
| 23:02.28 | ckknight | whether to make it framework agnostic with explicit callbacks |
| 23:02.32 | ckknight | or to make it a Joker lib |
| 23:02.40 | ckknight | err, Rock |
| 23:02.51 | yacoob | but on unrelated note: is it possible with omen to create 2 thresholds for visual cues? |
| 23:03.13 | yacoob | like, after grabbing 60%, flash blue, after 90% - red |
| 23:03.29 | ckknight | Stan__, this is hard to do mostly cause I don't have WoW on this comp |
| 23:03.46 | Xinhuan | don't think so, but its a good idea |
| 23:04.00 | Stan__ | well I goes coding addons without having wow is really hard |
| 23:04.00 | yacoob | but of cours^UI see :) |
| 23:04.08 | Stan__ | goes = guess |
| 23:04.25 | ckknight | well, it means it's all dry and I can't test it |
| 23:04.34 | ckknight | hopefully I get my comp back later today |
| 23:04.52 | Xinhuan | what happened to your comp |
| 23:04.59 | ckknight | btw, Ominous, http://www.wowace.com/wiki/LibBabble-Spell-3.0 |
| 23:05.03 | ckknight | Xinhuan, the X key broke |
| 23:05.07 | Stan__ | well I could test it. next question is, whether you can fit it without having seen it in action |
| 23:05.13 | Ominous | ckknight: cheers |
| 23:05.17 | Xinhuan | can't you just replace the keyboard? |
| 23:05.22 | ckknight | Xinhuan, laptop |
| 23:05.25 | Xinhuan | oh |
| 23:05.31 | ckknight | they're replacing the keyboard now ;-) |
| 23:05.43 | Xinhuan | hmm wonder how much laptop keyboards cost |
| 23:05.59 | art3mis | retail or actual? |
| 23:06.00 | ckknight | *shrug* on warranty |
| 23:06.16 | art3mis | reatil 79-139 |
| 23:06.22 | art3mis | actualy about 6.95 ;P |
| 23:06.35 | Thezilch | It's a Mac.. add 200% |
| 23:06.44 | art3mis | they're still cheap to produce |
| 23:06.55 | ckknight | Thezilch, I have a 3-year warranty, though, so it's all good |
| 23:06.56 | CIA-14 | 03sayclub * r48006 10Babble-2.2/Babble-Boss-2.2/Babble-Boss-2.2.lua: |
| 23:06.56 | CIA-14 | Babble-2.2: |
| 23:06.56 | CIA-14 | -Boss : Updated localization koKR |
| 23:07.01 | sb | mhhmm |
| 23:07.03 | art3mis | the screw driver that gets you into the case however is 129.95 ;P |
| 23:07.10 | sb | wtb grid with icons instead of indicators in each corner %-) |
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| 23:07.27 | orionshock | morning all |
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| 23:08.46 | art3mis | hiya shock |
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| 23:09.56 | orionshock | hehe... "Artemis" funnything is that my entire family has "Greekish" names but we are not greek :D |
| 23:10.45 | art3mis | just a big Clash of the Titans fanbase? ;) |
| 23:12.22 | Thrae | Ahhh, ThraeBot was banned from #battlegroup9, haha. They should have at least messaged me saying "God your bot sucks, we're banning it". |
| 23:13.09 | Ominous | rofl |
| 23:13.13 | Xinhuan | hahah |
| 23:13.24 | Xinhuan | actually htey banned it because ppl abused your bot too much |
| 23:15.27 | Xinhuan | people were TBR spamming it with !vs |
| 23:16.11 | Thrae | Xinhuan: They could have just told people to stop, then ban those who didn't. |
| 23:16.20 | Xinhuan | that wouldn't have worked ;p |
| 23:16.29 | Xinhuan | abecause its bg9 lol |
| 23:16.30 | Recluse | D= whoops AceConsole-2.0: stack overflow |
| 23:16.42 | Thrae | There's also a trivia bot in there I believe |
| 23:16.49 | Xinhuan | its one of the most immature channels i've ever seen |
| 23:16.55 | Thrae | Heh, oh well |
| 23:17.03 | Xinhuan | and the amount of spam in it during a WSVG match |
| 23:17.20 | Xinhuan | is the "NEED TO TYPE ALL CAPS AND SPAM THIS 10 TIMES IN THE CHANNEL" |
| 23:18.34 | Gilded | QQ for anyone using CowTip & Tattle. Do I need to add a DogTag to get the Tattle info to show? |
| 23:18.46 | Corey | i don't think the bot sucks |
| 23:19.44 | *** join/#wowace Guillotine (n=Guilloti@adsl-76-214-10-54.dsl.lsan03.sbcglobal.net) |
| 23:20.15 | orionshock | Gilded: no the 2 should play fine togeather |
| 23:20.40 | Gilded | orionshock: Hmm, I don't seem to get any info from Tattle. I'll have to play around disabling other addons. |
| 23:20.54 | orionshock | did u get any errors on loading up? |
| 23:21.07 | Gilded | orionshock: Nope, bug free on load. |
| 23:21.14 | orionshock | humm.. |
| 23:21.34 | orionshock | btw, tattle only has like ... ~800 ppl per battlegroup by default |
| 23:21.42 | orionshock | so if u not seeing anything, thats normal |
| 23:22.04 | Gilded | Yeah, but I was mousing over some of our higher end PVP players. (Of course my server stinks so it is possible nobody from our server in that list). |
| 23:22.22 | orionshock | pvp =/= arena |
| 23:22.33 | Gilded | yeah, I know |
| 23:22.47 | Gilded | I'll search through the files for some names, and then check the mouseover on them |
| 23:25.23 | orionshock | Gilded: what battlegroup u in? |
| 23:25.45 | CIA-14 | 03ckknight * r48007 10LibSpecialEvents-Aura-3.0/ (4 files): |
| 23:25.45 | CIA-14 | LibSpecialEvents-Aura-3.0 - initial import. |
| 23:25.45 | CIA-14 | - Basically a copy of SpecialEventsEmbed-Aura-2.0, ported to Rock |
| 23:25.45 | CIA-14 | - doesn't have Roster support yet. |
| 23:25.45 | CIA-14 | - dispatches namespaced events, e.g. "LibSpecialEvents-Aura-3.0","AuraTargetChanged" instead of "SpecialEvents_AuraTargetChanged" |
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| 23:25.47 | *** mode/#wowace [+o nymbia] by ChanServ |
| 23:26.10 | ckknight | hey nymbia |
| 23:26.12 | Gilded | Veng |
| 23:26.52 | orionshock | vengeance, don't think anyone has requested a deep scan of that one yet... did u want one? |
| 23:27.27 | Gilded | That'd be awesome, but let me make sure that I don't have some other problem first. |
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| 23:27.55 | Arrowmaster | i think im in trouble, i have class on tuesday at 1pm, i woke up at 5:30pm today |
| 23:28.23 | ckknight | :-P |
| 23:28.59 | Arrowmaster | and my alarmclock is broken, i ordered a new one but they only ship on business days |
| 23:29.37 | clad|away | cellphone? |
| 23:30.04 | Arrowmaster | probably not loud enough |
| 23:30.18 | clad|away | worth a try :P |
| 23:30.27 | Arrowmaster | ive slept with a previous alarm clock going off for 3 hours before |
| 23:31.10 | Arrowmaster | the one i ordered goes up to 113db |
| 23:31.28 | Ominous | ckknight: are you going to autodoc sea-3? |
| 23:32.06 | ckknight | Ominous, eventually, it wasn't doc'd for 2.0, so that's a bit of an issue |
| 23:32.38 | Ominous | ah |
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| 23:38.03 | CIA-14 | 03recluse * r48008 10TextSpy/libs/: TextSpy: update externals |
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| 23:59.43 | Recluse | hmm, item links cause two calls to :AddMessage()? |
