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| 00:03.44 | ergh99 | any PT3 experience in here? |
| 00:04.08 | aestil | i have expierenced trying to figure out PT3 stuff for ArkInventory rules. |
| 00:07.33 | Funkeh` | nn folks |
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| 00:14.43 | ergh99 | aestil> i'm trying to add Void Crystal to Tradeskill.Mat.ByType.Crystal but it's not obvious how the id's are stored |
| 00:15.50 | ergh99 | in the Tradeskill file, the only entry in the category is fpz which makes me think there's a translation somewhere |
| 00:15.55 | ergh99 | but i haven't come across it |
| 00:16.56 | ergh99 | plus, in data.lua is only 1 number that LOOKS like a short id, but plugging it into GetItemInfo in the client returns nil |
| 00:17.28 | aestil | ergh99: i am not the person to ask for that. Arkinventory does have something where you can right click on the item, and it will tell you where the item is currently stored in PT3's DB |
| 00:18.12 | CIA-22 | 03avai * r48770 10FuBar_TrainerFu/FuBar_TrainerFu.toc: |
| 00:18.12 | CIA-22 | FuBar_TrainerFu: |
| 00:18.12 | CIA-22 | - Update Chinese Traditional description |
| 00:19.27 | orionshock | ergh99: try requesting it in the PT3 thread |
| 00:19.58 | ergh99 | sigh. i'm the instant gratification generation.... |
| 00:20.12 | ergh99 | thanks for the tip |
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| 00:20.25 | ckknight | http://www.collegehumor.com/video:1774935 |
| 00:21.01 | orionshock | hey ckknight i loged into an alt and only enabled LibRock and Cowtip .. worked fine... |
| 00:21.09 | orionshock | main toon tho is till borked >.> |
| 00:21.11 | orionshock | any ideas? |
| 00:21.24 | Kaydeethree | is it bad that I recognize that URL as the MS-DOS 5.0 hip-hop advert? |
| 00:21.26 | ckknight | orionshock: any errors? |
| 00:21.33 | ckknight | lol, Kaydeethree |
| 00:21.34 | orionshock | no |
| 00:21.53 | ckknight | orionshock: got !BugGrabber enabled? |
| 00:22.03 | orionshock | got swatter |
| 00:22.13 | aestil | is this video for real? |
| 00:22.47 | Tinyboom | dewdrop error: http://ace.pastey.net/73792 |
| 00:23.50 | orionshock | hey Tinyboom ... not a useful error btw |
| 00:24.45 | orionshock | ck.. the module dump works on my alt with nothing else enabled.. |
| 00:24.49 | aestil | this is an unreal video. |
| 00:24.51 | Kaelten | Pkekyo: it works in opera now :) |
| 00:25.00 | Kaelten | who was using links? |
| 00:25.01 | Kaelten | lol |
| 00:25.26 | ckknight | orionshock: disable Swatter, see if an error shows up |
| 00:25.31 | CIA-22 | 03jncl * r48771 10Skinner/AddonSkins/Baggins.lua: Skinner: Updated Baggins skin |
| 00:27.28 | orionshock | ckknight: same error swatter was giving "Cannot Find Module 'Text' " |
| 00:27.40 | ckknight | wtf |
| 00:27.43 | ckknight | it exists! |
| 00:27.45 | ckknight | I've tried it |
| 00:28.02 | orionshock | in the config window it's enabled |
| 00:28.05 | ckknight | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:28.10 | ergh99 | aestil> it's real. it's a vid MS made to convince retailers to stock their product |
| 00:28.32 | Kaelten | http://files.wowace.com for those who are interested |
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| 00:28.57 | Antiarc | Nice, Kaelten. |
| 00:29.04 | JoshBorke | fugly kaelten ;-P |
| 00:29.11 | Antiarc | Kaelten: Needs either a jump-to-letter or a search. |
| 00:29.11 | durcyn | doesn't load without javascript, screw that |
| 00:29.15 | orionshock | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:29.28 | aestil | crazy. I had to find this for very frustrating guild members, to link them straight to omen. Havn't looked at this since then. |
| 00:29.31 | Kaelten | Antiarc: ya I'm looking at that, I know thats still a needed thing |
| 00:29.46 | aestil | wtb banner ads :) |
| 00:29.47 | Antiarc | Kaelten: Progressive search would be sexysauce |
| 00:29.54 | Kaelten | its possible. |
| 00:30.03 | Kaelten | jsut got to get the javascript for that |
| 00:32.04 | durcyn | what was wrong with a bare webserver file listing, that page totally fails to load in lyhnx |
| 00:32.07 | durcyn | lynx* |
| 00:32.23 | Kaelten | does lynx not support javascript? |
| 00:32.24 | ckknight | orionshock: /script for k in CowTip:IterateModules() do Rock("LibRockConsole-1.0"):Print(k) end |
| 00:32.30 | Antiarc | Kaelten: Not exactly :P |
| 00:32.32 | dodga | durcyn: Not enough fluff :D |
| 00:32.35 | Kaydeethree | lynx is textmode |
| 00:32.37 | Antiarc | lynx is a text browser |
| 00:32.58 | durcyn | some text browsers have basic js support, but elinks compiled against ecma libs doesn't even render it here |
| 00:33.00 | Kaelten | I know that but I guess it doesn't support any js? |
| 00:33.05 | Antiarc | Nope |
| 00:33.07 | Kaydeethree | no |
| 00:33.20 | dodga | Can somebody fast forward time? I want my Bleach 140 :\ |
| 00:33.28 | Mudkips | >_> |
| 00:33.33 | Kaydeethree | wow... I gave up watching bleach in the 50s |
| 00:33.37 | ZealotOnAStick | Kaelten: can we get an Option to show the entire list? |
| 00:33.47 | dodga | Mudkips: Always puke away from yourself, and from me. :P |
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| 00:34.03 | Mudkips | anyway |
| 00:34.08 | dodga | Kaydeethree: I dunno.. I like it :D |
| 00:34.13 | orionshock | ckknight: nothing |
| 00:34.16 | Kaydeethree | the constant fillers turned me off |
| 00:34.23 | Kaydeethree | same reason dbz waned on me |
| 00:34.35 | Mudkips | Pendium Dual Core E2150 @ 3.2 GHz overclocked | Priced at 89$ |
| 00:34.40 | Kaydeethree | I just want more hayate, lucky star and znt2 |
| 00:34.42 | Kaelten | ZealotOnAStick: also looking at that |
| 00:34.43 | Mudkips | Pentium* |
| 00:34.45 | dodga | DBZ actually was kinda.. lengthy :D |
| 00:34.52 | ckknight | orionshock: wtf |
| 00:35.00 | ckknight | orionshock: open you CowTip folder, see if the modules are in there |
| 00:35.07 | orionshock | yes |
| 00:35.14 | Kaydeethree | I can do long anime. I own the box sets to both KOR and Maison Ikkoku and I've watched all of Ranma 1/2 |
| 00:35.20 | Kaydeethree | just not anime with filler for 3 weeks in a row |
| 00:35.32 | Mudkips | Kaydeethree, are you a lolipedo? |
| 00:35.37 | Kaydeethree | negative |
| 00:35.42 | Mudkips | looks like it |
| 00:35.49 | Mudkips | hayate, lucky star and znt2 |
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| 00:36.08 | Kaydeethree | it's all that's airing this season that's interesting |
| 00:36.11 | orionshock | ckknight: "yes ollie", |
| 00:36.13 | dodga | Kaydeethree: Yeah, that obsessive filler crap in Bleach sucks balls |
| 00:36.14 | Mudkips | madness |
| 00:36.18 | Mudkips | maaaaaaaaaaaaaadness |
| 00:36.28 | Mudkips | Seirei no Moribito by Production IG |
| 00:36.40 | Mudkips | I got more |
| 00:36.44 | orionshock | "did you check you TCP/IP settings" ... "yes Ollie"... |
| 00:36.47 | ckknight | orionshock: hrm. |
| 00:36.52 | ckknight | orionshock: CowTipDB = nil |
| 00:36.54 | ckknight | and /rl |
| 00:37.19 | Mudkips | Darker than Black |
| 00:37.21 | orionshock | ouch that sounds painful |
| 00:37.42 | Mudkips | Tengen Toppa Gurren Lagann by GAINAX |
| 00:37.54 | orionshock | LOL |
| 00:37.55 | Kaydeethree | gainax. no. |
| 00:38.04 | Kaydeethree | flcl <3, that's about it |
| 00:38.16 | orionshock | hehe... hey ckknight nope same probloblem ... now tooltip is in it's default spot |
| 00:39.23 | ckknight | orionshock: /cow |
| 00:39.25 | ckknight | give anything? |
| 00:39.28 | orionshock | me thinks that ckknight is going to tell me tsol and give up |
| 00:39.33 | orionshock | ckknight: yes /cow works |
| 00:39.37 | ckknight | does it list the modules? |
| 00:39.39 | ckknight | or not? |
| 00:39.42 | orionshock | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:39.50 | orionshock | yes line texts is listed and enabled |
| 00:40.07 | ckknight | and /print CowTip:HasModule("Text") |
| 00:40.10 | ckknight | true or false? |
| 00:41.05 | orionshock | false |
| 00:41.32 | orionshock | btw that for k script dosn't work |
| 00:41.48 | ckknight | yea |
| 00:41.50 | ckknight | okay, wtf |
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| 00:42.02 | ckknight | you're not running both the Ace2 version and the Rock version, are you? |
| 00:42.32 | orionshock | hehe... |
| 00:42.33 | orionshock | no |
| 00:42.44 | orionshock | it's an svn update |
| 00:43.03 | orionshock | thing is that it works fine with just rock & cow tip enabled |
| 00:43.14 | ckknight | I have no idea :-( |
| 00:43.24 | orionshock | then again.. im running embeded libs with cow tip and im also running disembeded libs at the same time... |
| 00:43.27 | ckknight | my guess is a database issue |
| 00:43.57 | ckknight | omfg |
| 00:43.59 | ckknight | found the issue! |
| 00:44.10 | orionshock | eh? |
| 00:44.17 | Wobwork | Was it in the magazine rack? |
| 00:44.39 | orionshock | LMAO Wobwork |
| 00:45.01 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r48772 10LibRockModuleCore-1.0/LibRockModuleCore-1.0.lua: LibRockModuleCore-1.0 - fix horrible, horrible typo: coreToModule -> coreToModules |
| 00:45.11 | orionshock | LOL |
| 00:45.19 | ckknight | it made upgrading not work |
| 00:45.26 | ckknight | so it wouldn't recognize the previous version's modules |
| 00:45.29 | Thrae | Hmmm, is it just me, or does Lua's module() implements something similiar to what we WoW'ers call "libraries". |
| 00:45.39 | orionshock | i was thinking the commit note was going to say "fixed a unique bug found by orionshock being a dumbass" |
| 00:45.39 | Thrae | s#implements#implement/ |
| 00:45.42 | JoshBorke | thrae: you're just dumb |
| 00:46.01 | Thrae | JoshBorke: You play a Troll on every server |
| 00:46.06 | JoshBorke | ~joshborke |
| 00:46.06 | purl | Yes, I'm even more stupid than Thrae. I'm also a smart-ass. And apparently I'm not a person, so I don't count. |
| 00:46.09 | JoshBorke | thrae: it's true |
| 00:46.18 | JoshBorke | thrae: i'm a sexy troll too |
| 00:46.27 | JoshBorke | thrae: in all seriousness, i think they are similar, yes |
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| 00:49.08 | Mecdemort | is there any way to view all on files.wowace.com? |
| 00:49.17 | JoshBorke | view source |
| 00:50.18 | Mecdemort | hmm |
| 00:52.55 | orionshock | !c us Cenarion Circle Mariemaia |
| 00:53.18 | Mecdemort | surely theres a better way |
| 00:53.58 | hyperChipmunk | svn ls http://svn.wowace.com/wowace/trunk |
| 00:53.58 | orionshock | !c us CenarionCircle Mariemaia |
| 00:53.58 | ThraeBot | orionshock: Mariemaia is not the character you are looking for! |
| 00:53.58 | Mecdemort | ya, but no descriptions on the svn |
| 00:54.03 | orionshock | !c us whirlwind Mariemaia |
| 00:54.03 | ThraeBot | orionshock: Mariemaia is not the character you are looking for! |
| 00:54.10 | orionshock | Mecdemort: try fish.wowace.com |
| 00:54.28 | orionshock | ckknight: ... meh fk it, i'll catch the files.wowace.com update in 20mins :D |
| 00:54.31 | Mecdemort | same thing |
| 00:54.33 | hyperChipmunk | well dude, what else you want? files.wowace.com is pretty much it |
| 00:54.38 | ckknight | lol |
| 00:54.56 | Mecdemort | i know but they went and screwed with files.wowace.com! |
| 00:55.06 | hyperChipmunk | no wai |
| 00:55.34 | hyperChipmunk | ack |
| 00:55.44 | Mecdemort | it's such a... useless.. interface |
| 00:55.52 | [KzM]Fatalis | agreed |
| 00:56.01 | zeeg | n oway its pro |
| 00:56.12 | Mecdemort | if it was by alphabetical then maybe, but randomly every 24 entries? |
| 00:56.23 | zeeg | ask Kaelten to change the default sort |
| 00:56.45 | zeeg | and harass him and maybe he'll harass someone to add filtering to it ;) |
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| 00:57.14 | Mecdemort | i mean all of the info is still in the page so it's not even saving server access, wtf? |
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| 00:58.06 | Kaelten | hrm? |
| 00:59.13 | Kaelten | Mecdemort: I'm going to be adding more stuff to the page in the next few days |
| 00:59.28 | Kaelten | I want to add a view all button and a sort/filtering thing |
| 00:59.31 | Mecdemort | please to be adding a view all option? |
| 00:59.33 | Mecdemort | ok good |
| 00:59.44 | Kaelten | and if I get really spiffy i'll even make it remember it via cookies |
| 01:00.08 | ulic | mmm, cookies |
| 01:00.36 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r48773 10/branches/Cartographer/: Cartographer - prepare for Rock branch |
| 01:00.49 | Corgan | osnap |
| 01:00.57 | ckknight | snap? |
| 01:01.21 | NeoTron | LFpriest/druid healer PST |
| 01:01.29 | NeoTron | just lost a priest. sigh |
| 01:01.43 | Mecdemort | i got a priest ;p |
| 01:01.46 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight 07Rock * r48774 10Cartographer/: Cartographer - prepare for Rock branch |
| 01:02.48 | NeoTron | should specify perhaps - tier 4-5 geared, 9pm-1am PST raiding (US PvE), exp with mostof SSC/TK preferred |
| 01:03.24 | zeeg | http://news.curse.com/details/2972/ -- does this page error for anyone? |
| 01:05.01 | Mecdemort | Kaelten: in the mean time, is there any way to hack it to view all? |
| 01:05.32 | zeeg | sec ill give him stuff |
| 01:05.56 | ckknight | *sigh* |
| 01:06.03 | ckknight | my nextdoor neighbor's employee is high |
| 01:06.13 | Kaelten | ask for a hit? |
| 01:06.20 | ckknight | no, this isn't one of those situations |
| 01:07.26 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight 07Rock * r48775 10Cartographer/Cartographer/: Cartographer - create Rock branch |
| 01:10.45 | Kaelten | Mecdemort: this'll do it |
| 01:10.46 | Kaelten | $('div', $('#holder')).remove(); |
| 01:10.46 | Kaelten | $(function() {new TableView({template:wowace, data:data, parent:'#holder', results_per_page: 980})}); |
| 01:10.56 | Kaelten | but its slow right now |
| 01:11.26 | Kaelten | so I'm going to wait until I can finish it |
| 01:11.30 | Mecdemort | ok |
| 01:11.41 | Mecdemort | as long as it wont be left as-is, which was my only worry ;p |
| 01:11.48 | Kaelten | or rather until we can figure out how to make it fast |
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| 01:12.00 | CIA-22 | 03treibh * r48776 10BigBrother/ (BigBrother.lua localization_enUS.lua): |
| 01:12.00 | CIA-22 | BigBrother: |
| 01:12.00 | CIA-22 | - added elixirs to flaskcheck: will tell you who has one or two elixirs |
| 01:12.00 | CIA-22 | - added food buffs to flaskcheck: will tell you who does not have a food buff |
| 01:13.57 | sb | yess moer bigbrother :o |
| 01:14.47 | clad|book | sylvanaar: read my post, and comprehend it, please. |
| 01:16.28 | sylvanaar | ok, read mine |
| 01:16.42 | clad|book | Uhh.. I did. |
| 01:16.54 | clad|book | that's the point, unless you've responded in the last 30 seconds. |
| 01:17.01 | clad|book | kk :P |
| 01:17.17 | clad|book | fast typers BE DAMNED i tell you |
| 01:17.29 | sylvanaar | lol |
| 01:17.37 | clad|book | my machine is lagging cause i'm runnign two virtual machines |
| 01:17.59 | JoshBorke | clad|book: excuses excuses |
| 01:18.17 | sb | haha yes, i know your problem... my brain is lagging because i'm running... eh yes - nvm %-) |
| 01:18.21 | ckknight | sylvanaar: link? |
| 01:18.44 | sylvanaar | i get it, but basically, you guys have been in the anti-ace2 camp for a while, and should expect some of this |
| 01:18.54 | clad|book | I have never been anti-ace |
| 01:18.57 | clad|book | so i'm really sick of hearing that |
| 01:19.08 | clad|book | do you have any idea how many people I've sent TO Ace? |
| 01:19.38 | clad|book | I've always decried the "Ace Mob" that goes around rating AnduinLothar's addons down, or the other childish nonsense that's happened. |
| 01:19.52 | clad|book | I've never once decried Ace2, called it "Bloated" or any other stuff that people seem to think I've said. |
| 01:20.09 | clad|book | I have a completely public record, and I left for my own reasons, and made my own libraries, for my own reasons |
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| 01:20.45 | hyperChipmunk | my record says clad smells |
| 01:20.49 | clad|book | People like to lump me in with other people, just because I've had confrontations with ckknight, but no one bothers to ask me how I feel about things, or what my opinions are.. they're just invented for me. |
| 01:21.20 | ckknight | clad|book has feelings. I'm sure he likes unicorns. |
| 01:21.22 | ckknight | I know I do. |
| 01:21.30 | ckknight | so we're really not that different |
| 01:21.38 | kenlyric | lies |
| 01:21.45 | kenlyric | you like one horned horses, he likes unicorns. |
| 01:21.51 | clad|book | I don't want thanks.. I don't want pity.. But I'd really appreciate if when people were insulting me and making rude comments, they came with facts instead of complete and utter bullshit |
| 01:21.56 | kenlyric | COMPLETELY OPPOSITE! |
| 01:21.59 | clad|book | (I know you're making light of things, but honestly, I'm sick of it). |
| 01:22.17 | sylvanaar | clad there is a distinction between posting "It doesnt have to be Ace2" everywhere, and being anti-ace2. But many people wont make it |
| 01:22.24 | ckknight | making jokes is a way for me to avoid uncomfortable situations |
| 01:22.39 | clad|book | sylvanaar: Want me to post on every single one of your addons asking you to Dongle it? |
| 01:22.50 | clad|book | Very rarely did you find me in a thread that wasn't involving one of my own addons |
| 01:23.04 | clad|book | contrary to your apparent belief, I don't sit on the forums trolling people all day long |
| 01:23.11 | clad|book | But I respond when something of mine is called into question |
| 01:23.20 | sylvanaar | im talking about the "Should it use Ace2" posts |
| 01:23.40 | clad|book | in which i presented my opinion, and in many cases said positive things about ace. |
| 01:23.42 | kenlyric | no. everyone agrees ace2 |
| 01:23.44 | kenlyric | sucks |
| 01:23.55 | clad|book | I dont know what evil monster you have pictured inside your head, but I think you shoudl go back and read some of these posts that you think I've made |
| 01:24.04 | clad|book | I'll fully admit when I was and am wrong, I have no problem doing so |
| 01:24.15 | clad|book | But i've also been very careful about what I've said from the start |
| 01:24.31 | sylvanaar | i dont have an evil monster view - im saying it can appear that way to people |
| 01:24.43 | clad|book | sure, if you want to |
| 01:24.48 | ckknight | kenlyric: Ace2's not horrible, it just could be better |
| 01:24.49 | kenlyric | it doesn't appear that way to me. |
| 01:24.53 | clad|book | I've complimented ckknight's code, asked for feedback and help, like lots of the libraris that have been created, and have pushed people towards Ace. |
| 01:25.00 | clad|book | Ace2 was revolutionary.. and very good at what it did |
| 01:25.05 | clad|book | _BUT IT DIDN'T WORK FOR ME_ |
| 01:25.12 | clad|book | I didn't start an opposing faction |
| 01:25.14 | clad|book | or set up camp |
| 01:25.16 | kenlyric | in fact, clad is one of the *nice* non-ace devs. |
| 01:25.22 | clad|book | i wrote my own library that people were interested in |
| 01:25.27 | clad|book | ONLY AFTER they saw it in Clique and PerfectRaid |
| 01:25.31 | JoshBorke | kenlyric: liar, there is no such thing |
| 01:25.35 | clad|book | no one knew anything about Dongle before that |
| 01:25.43 | clad|book | *shrug* |
| 01:25.44 | kenlyric | if your not with ace2, you're with the terrorists. |
| 01:25.54 | clad|book | Okay, there's too much of my name here |
| 01:25.57 | clad|book | btu be careful what you accuse me of |
| 01:25.57 | kenlyric | so I guess that means ck and kael too. |
| 01:26.00 | clad|book | I'm guilt of a lot of things |
| 01:26.19 | clad|book | but not half of the things I'm accused of. |
| 01:26.31 | ckknight | kenlyric: I'm here to protect you from terr'r |
| 01:26.44 | clad|book | ckknight: missile defense program imo? |
| 01:27.10 | kenlyric | let's all just go back to cosmos |
| 01:27.34 | ckknight | clad|book: star-wars style |
| 01:27.36 | kenlyric | then we can all hate *as one* |
| 01:27.48 | ckknight | pew pew lazerz |
| 01:28.14 | CIA-22 | 03fin * r48777 10Prat/Prat_Modules/modules/AltNames.lua: Prat: Prat_Modules/modules/AltNames.lua: added option to right-click context to "Set main" for a player (been meaning to do this for a while - such a pain to link alts with funny characters in them) |
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| 01:32.17 | sylvanaar | ok, i'm trying to tell you something about how others may percieve you. You arent listening, and you are being defensive. That wont change the fact that others may have this perception. People have certain perceptions of me which are unfair and wrong. I hate it too. |
| 01:32.38 | ckknight | sylvanaar kicks puppies! |
| 01:32.41 | ckknight | jk |
| 01:32.46 | ckknight | (srsly, stop kicking puppies) |
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| 01:33.34 | clad|book | sylvanaar: But you're the one telling me this, and you're the one calling me this. |
| 01:33.47 | clad|book | I guess I expected better from you than from "the mobs" |
| 01:33.54 | aestil | follow up question from like 2 hours ago. why is the combat log feature taking them like, 6 months + to implement? |
| 01:34.16 | ckknight | aestil: by having longer and longer patches, they don't have to make as much content between expansions, which we pay for |
| 01:34.46 | clad|book | also, its a drastic rewrite of the server and client combat engines |
| 01:34.51 | aestil | i assume that by now they have split off alot of their 'best people' to work on there next mmo or whatever. |
| 01:34.59 | sylvanaar | im telling you this, not calling you this. |
| 01:35.22 | ckknight | clad|book: seems a bit self-righteous and indignant to "expect better" |
| 01:35.23 | ckknight | imho |
| 01:35.26 | AnduinLothar | if you don't think it, don't pass it on unless asked, imo |
| 01:35.51 | ckknight | I think the heart of the problem is AnduinLothar |
| 01:35.55 | ckknight | we stopped hating him |
| 01:35.58 | AnduinLothar | i usually am |
| 01:36.01 | ckknight | and instead turned to self-loathing |
| 01:36.13 | clad|book | ckknight: I have higher expectations of someone who spends each day in a channel with me, and I converse with on a daily basis. |
| 01:36.20 | clad|book | Otherwise its just mindless poo-flinging |
| 01:36.23 | ckknight | maybe it was just the tone |
| 01:36.26 | ckknight | also: |
| 01:36.36 | AnduinLothar | see, not if you had a common enemy (kinda liek what you're making clad into...) |
| 01:36.40 | AnduinLothar | now* |
| 01:36.53 | sylvanaar | um, AnduinLothar you are so off base right now |
| 01:37.01 | ckknight | yea, you really are |
| 01:37.04 | ckknight | clad's not the enemy |
| 01:37.05 | AnduinLothar | lol |
| 01:37.13 | clad|book | sylvanaar: I won't sit by idly and have people drag my name through the mud (again) with false accusations. Regardless of perception, the history is documented, and doesn't lie. |
| 01:37.30 | clad|book | more stress added to my life, sure.. but its important to me. |
| 01:37.40 | sylvanaar | yes but as we all know - noone reads the documenatation |
| 01:37.42 | hyperChipmunk | everyone knows the common enemy is the eagles, hawks, and falcons that prey upon us while we frolick merrily in the grass |
| 01:37.53 | clad|book | telling me something like that in the thread could have been nothing more than hurtful.. it served no purpose in the conversation at hand |
| 01:37.54 | hyperChipmunk | one day, though...the rodents will rise... |
| 01:38.01 | clad|book | especially if you had read the entire thread |
| 01:38.02 | ckknight | lol, hyperChipmunk |
| 01:38.04 | clad|book | or Bam's apology |
| 01:38.06 | clad|book | or any other context. |
| 01:38.36 | clad|book | and Wobin couldn't have said it any better |
| 01:38.46 | hyperChipmunk | he usually can't |
| 01:38.52 | hyperChipmunk | he's a raving moron irl too |
| 01:40.19 | sylvanaar | its worth saying though, that people should not be threatened with bans, i should have elaborated and couched what i said some more with further explaination (i tend to assume people know what i mean) |
| 01:40.33 | clad|book | sylvanaar: he wasn't threatened |
| 01:40.42 | clad|book | he was warned, same as on any forum |
| 01:41.01 | Wobwork | It's true. |
| 01:41.03 | sylvanaar | what is the difference? |
| 01:41.04 | clad|book | he was warned not to continue with the personal attacks and accusations.. To keep the thread civil and on-topic. |
| 01:41.15 | Wobwork | Chipmunk friccassee? |
| 01:41.20 | Codayus | Of course people should be issued with warnings for infractions. Same as on any forum... |
| 01:41.35 | sylvanaar | warning would have left off the action which would result |
| 01:41.38 | sb | Wobwork: well - would be 'NSFW' then... :/ |
| 01:41.43 | clad|book | .. there's only one action |
| 01:41.45 | clad|book | its a forum |
| 01:42.06 | aestil | warning is cautionary and looks to the interest of the individual |
| 01:42.10 | Codayus | sylvanaar: Um, obviously wrong, IMHO. "You posted X, this violates rule Y. If you do this Z more times you will be banned." |
| 01:42.12 | clad|book | I find this entirely hypocritical, since you have reported quite a number of forums posts that you considered overly hostile or inappropriate. |
| 01:42.24 | aestil | threatening is hostile, and looks to the interest of the threatener. |
| 01:42.34 | clad|book | I've stepped in on more than one of these threads, issued warning and consequence, and you've had no issues with that |
| 01:42.52 | sylvanaar | I just wanted them moved into the main thread |
| 01:43.05 | clad|book | nope, those are different reports |
| 01:43.22 | clad|book | either way, my conduct in that thread is consistent with any forum moderation i've ever been involved with. |
| 01:43.45 | clad|book | if you have complaints about it, perhaps you should take it up with the management. |
| 01:43.51 | sylvanaar | I dont recall reporting hostile threads - just 20+ new threads on the same topic for WAU |
| 01:43.57 | clad|book | or report my post and being threatening and inappropriate. |
| 01:44.53 | sylvanaar | Or instead, just be sensitive to the fact that some people dont know you that well, and give them a chance to |
| 01:45.27 | clad|book | .. look at my posting history with Bam |
| 01:45.30 | clad|book | we've had countless conversations |
| 01:45.47 | clad|book | regardless of that, I'm a forum moderator. I don't need to have a personal relationship with someone in order to do my job. |
| 01:45.53 | Codayus | Hmm, is making personal attacks on people you don't know significantly better than makin gthem on ones you do? :-) |
| 01:45.59 | clad|book | And I do have a personal relationship with Bam. |
| 01:46.01 | clad|book | so.. |
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| 01:47.46 | sylvanaar | allright - i give up. i'm just going t delete it |
| 01:48.22 | sylvanaar | where did it go? |
| 01:48.34 | clad|book | ?? |
| 01:49.00 | clad|book | Honestly, if you have an issue with a moderator stepping in when personal attacks get thrown around and issuing warnings, I suggest you bring it up with Kaelten. |
| 01:49.09 | sylvanaar | too many pages lol |
| 01:49.12 | clad|book | Yours would be the first complaint I've had one any of the forums I've been moderator of for the past 8 years. |
| 01:49.18 | clad|book | But i'm open to suggestion |
| 01:49.28 | sylvanaar | i wasnt complaining about you geez |
| 01:49.48 | sylvanaar | you just got lumped in |
| 01:50.01 | clad|book | then why did you respond saying Tekkub and I were perceived as Anti-Ace trolls? |
| 01:50.16 | clad|book | Are you accusing Tekkub of overstepping his boundries? Or Tem? |
| 01:50.57 | clad|book | nevermind, it doesn't matter. |
| 01:51.08 | sylvanaar | i deleted my post |
| 01:51.35 | clad|book | Consider me miffed that we just wasted 30 minutes of our lives with me defending myself against the poo flinging, with you consistently backpedaling, but oh well, I had a good idea for the book |
| 01:51.44 | clad|book | My dog is now a WoW Icon in the new book, cause I miss her. |
| 01:52.28 | kenlyric | you mean, like a toolbar icon? |
| 01:52.33 | clad|book | yeah, action button icon |
| 01:52.44 | sylvanaar | whoa, hold on. i wasnt backpedaling, i was trying to explain a viewpoint to you which you had misunderstood |
| 01:52.51 | kenlyric | divine intervention? |
| 01:53.03 | kenlyric | "you just got lumped in" |
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| 01:55.29 | aestil | ssc trash sucks. |
| 01:55.45 | clad|book | aestil: its horrible =/ |
| 01:55.45 | kenlyric | hey, don't lump all ssc trash in together. |
| 01:55.48 | clad|book | demoralizing |
| 01:55.48 | kenlyric | some of it blows. |
| 01:55.59 | clad|book | the ones who drop boots of blasting rock, however :P |
| 01:56.02 | NeoTron | kael'thas trash is.. interesting |
| 01:56.09 | aestil | what sucks about it, wasting time to clear trash, when we need to be learning vashj |
| 01:56.13 | kenlyric | NeoTron: blatant lies. |
| 01:56.14 | aestil | we can 1 shot the rest of the bosses. |
| 01:56.14 | NeoTron | clad|book: that'd be.. all of them |
| 01:56.20 | clad|book | ;-) |
| 01:56.26 | clad|book | no, only the ones that drop it |
| 01:56.32 | clad|book | not the ones that _can_ drop it :P |
| 01:56.35 | NeoTron | ah ones that actually drop it |
| 01:56.55 | kenlyric | nobody in the history of wow has liked trash that reappears. |
| 01:57.06 | kenlyric | unless you wanted your ring out of AQ40 but couldn't kill bosses due to dumb. |
| 01:57.11 | clad|book | haha |
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| 01:57.13 | clad|book | so true! |
| 01:57.30 | kenlyric | hey, that's how I hit friendly! |
| 01:57.42 | kenlyric | and by that I mean unfriendly. |
| 01:57.43 | NeoTron | someday I need to figure out if the boots of blasting or the boots from hydross are better |
| 01:57.56 | aestil | three is just too much trash. |
| 01:58.04 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight 07Rock * r48778 10Cartographer/Cartographer/ (Cartographer.lua Cartographer.toc): Cartographer - use LibRock-1.0 instead of AceAddon-2.0 and LibRockModuleCore-1.0 instead of AceModuleCore-2.0. |
| 01:58.26 | NeoTron | on a good niht we can do 5/6 SSC in 4 hrs |
| 01:58.33 | NeoTron | too bad we usually don't have such good nights |
| 01:59.24 | aestil | yes, we are there. we can pretty much clear thorugh leo on night 1. |
| 01:59.29 | CIA-22 | 03mikk 07Alpha * r48779 10Ace3/AceEvent-3.0-CallbackHandler/ (. AceEvent-3.0.lua CallbackHandler-1.0.lua): |
| 01:59.29 | CIA-22 | Ace3 - ACE-33 |
| 01:59.29 | CIA-22 | PROTOTYPE: |
| 01:59.29 | CIA-22 | - Split AceEvent into a background library (CallbackHandler-1.0) and AceEvent proper |
| 01:59.29 | CIA-22 | - This lets other libraries also use CallbackHandler-1.0 to manage their callbacks |
| 01:59.31 | aestil | we have only 3 raid nights though. |
| 02:00.45 | ckknight | ~botmail to Mikk: But doesn't this go against the whole notion of libraries not having dependencies? |
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| 02:03.48 | Mikk | ckknight: ACE-33 |
| 02:05.52 | Mecdemort | Ace3 has module support embeded into the core? |
| 02:05.53 | ckknight | I just find it ironic that you change all your minds so quickly wrt groupthink |
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| 02:06.49 | JoshBorke | what's wrong with changing your mind? |
| 02:06.53 | Mikk | Mecdemort: yes. a module is the same as an addon. i think ckk did the same for rock. |
| 02:06.54 | hyperChipmunk | I don't think anyone's changed anybody's mind; looks like experimentation, and the discussion has been going on for days |
| 02:07.03 | ckknight | JoshBorke: nothing at all, just find it ironic |
| 02:07.08 | JoshBorke | why? |
| 02:07.23 | JoshBorke | isn't the purpose of a group of people working on a project to discuss things and go back and forth on ideas and implementations? |
| 02:07.43 | JoshBorke | what is the point of having a group of people discussing a topic if they all agree, seems like a lot of time wasted playing with yourself |
| 02:07.45 | ckknight | Mikk: not quite, I have a module core mixin |
| 02:08.01 | JoshBorke | now to see what happens to orihime |
| 02:08.11 | JoshBorke | if they put in a filler episode, so help me god i will go off |
| 02:08.12 | Mikk | okay, i misunderstood some commit message then |
| 02:08.13 | ckknight | JoshBorke: the irony's lost on you, I'm sure Kaelten would understand what I mean, though |
| 02:08.30 | ckknight | (due to /msg's I've sent him) |
| 02:08.38 | Mecdemort | whats the benefit of putting it in the core? doesnt that me the modules would have it all to? |
| 02:08.50 | JoshBorke | ckknight: i suppose it has to do with the "beaurocratic and political crap"? |
| 02:08.55 | ckknight | no |
| 02:08.57 | Mikk | fwiw, there's quite a difference between an anonymous helper library that lib users don't have to see, and to using an addon IPC mechanism specific to a given framework |
| 02:09.03 | ckknight | well, inadvertently, but not directly |
| 02:09.48 | ulic | ckknight: haven't tested by itself, but pitbull(Ace) is throwing the blizzard-no-no error when I try to set a MainTank in a raid. |
| 02:09.57 | ckknight | hrm, yea |
| 02:10.01 | ckknight | I could never figure that out |
| 02:10.33 | ulic | bummer |
| 02:11.47 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r48780 10LibTourist-3.0/LibTourist-3.0.lua: LibTourist-3.0 - Joker -> Rock |
| 02:12.10 | Mecdemort | wow i dont know what i was thinking, disregard my questions :D |
| 02:13.20 | Mikk | Mecdemort: basically, in ace3, a module is the same as an addon. They all get the same callbacks and so forth. And modules can have submodules even. |
| 02:13.47 | Mikk | It's using so much of the same code it just didn't make sense to split it off. |
| 02:14.15 | aestil | i just got owned in the face by lag in ssc |
| 02:14.21 | aestil | ran right into the water |
| 02:14.26 | Mecdemort | ah ok, i was gunna say there's a lot more addons that don't use modules than do use them, so hopefully there's not a big hit in performance |
| 02:14.30 | aestil | before we killed lurker or his trash, and during a pull. |
| 02:14.54 | Mikk | Mecdemort: absolutely right. And believe me when I say that this was hotly debated and looked at :) |
| 02:15.35 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r48781 10LibRollCall-2.0/LibRollCall-2.0.lua: LibRollCall-2.0 - fix some typos |
| 02:19.41 | mikma | LibRerollPvE |
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| 02:28.26 | Lukian | aww man, you guys ajax'ed the files page? ;p |
| 02:28.38 | Lukian | can I please have an 'All' button |
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| 02:30.18 | Lukian | numbering the pages is counter-intuitive. At least sort them by alphabet. |
| 02:30.59 | NightHawkTheSane | yes, they know, it's a work in progress. |
| 02:31.18 | Lukian | Why's it uh.. live then :p |
| 02:31.30 | Lukian | Having to guess which page an addon on isn't fun! |
| 02:31.59 | Seerah_ | O.O I noticed the author column earlier, but that definitely *is* different..... |
| 02:32.42 | Seerah_ | @Lukian - it is alphabetical, isn't it? |
| 02:32.52 | NightHawkTheSane | you can sort by various columns, actually |
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| 02:32.54 | Lukian | Seerah_, I have to click three pages to find S? |
| 02:33.07 | Lukian | when I could just click "S" |
| 02:33.11 | Seerah_ | ahh, you mean have the numbered pages be letters |
| 02:33.14 | Seerah_ | I get it |
| 02:33.15 | Lukian | yup |
| 02:33.24 | Lukian | categories would be interesting too |
| 02:33.24 | NightHawkTheSane | hyperChipmunk: ping |
| 02:34.05 | aestil | hydross is such a pieice of shit. either that or omen is borked. but i think its hydross being a piece of shit. |
| 02:34.30 | RaydenUni | what's DTPS? |
| 02:34.46 | NightHawkTheSane | Damage taken per second |
| 02:34.53 | Seerah_ | Omen couldn't be borked, aestil, everything's always Blizzard's fault ;) |
| 02:35.15 | Lysithea | my mind came up with Dumb Trolls Posting Shit |
| 02:35.16 | Lysithea | :( |
| 02:35.26 | Lysithea | tired |
| 02:35.33 | Lysithea | bed |
| 02:35.34 | Lysithea | mmm |
| 02:35.35 | Lysithea | zzzz |
| 02:36.11 | hyperChipmunk | NightHawkTheSane: ya |
| 02:37.12 | NightHawkTheSane | hyperChipmunk: i might have overlooked something, but can i set up a bulkmail rule by item quality ? |
| 02:38.38 | RaydenUni | so how do i get all the cool looking graphs to show up in recount? |
| 02:39.33 | hyperChipmunk | no; i haven't heard a real strong argument to add the complexity of multi-level rules just for the occasional blue item you don't want to send |
| 02:40.43 | NightHawkTheSane | hyperChipmunk: fair enough. :) |
| 02:40.59 | aestil | seerah: hard to imagine omen is borked on this fight. |
| 02:41.05 | hyperChipmunk | you can always exclude the item individually; it takes like 2 seconds |
| 02:41.15 | hyperChipmunk | exclude-->item from bags--> |
| 02:41.29 | NightHawkTheSane | mostly i just wanted to send blue+ boe's to my bank mule to try and auction, and green boes to my friend to DE |
| 02:41.46 | hyperChipmunk | how often do you really get blue boes though |
| 02:42.00 | Diao | i get a lot >.> |
| 02:42.09 | NightHawkTheSane | You say that, but I've gotten 3 in the past week. o_0 |
| 02:42.11 | hyperChipmunk | stfu; code it yourself |
| 02:42.14 | Diao | i get like one a day :D |
| 02:42.25 | Xinhuan | i got loads of boe blues, they are usually in the form of prismatic shards :p |
| 02:42.31 | Diao | lol |
| 02:42.40 | hyperChipmunk | shards aren't boe |
| 02:42.48 | hyperChipmunk | plus they're a pt set |
| 02:42.53 | Xinhuan | alright, you win :( |
| 02:43.07 | hyperChipmunk | there are a very limited number of boe blues, even; you could add them individually if it were absolutely a problem |
| 02:44.05 | JoshBorke | hyperChipmunk: http://www.wowhead.com/?items&filter=qu=3;cr=3;crs=1;crv=0 |
| 02:44.08 | JoshBorke | limited number huh? |
| 02:44.20 | NightHawkTheSane | I'm not actually complaining, or saying you should do it, I just asked if there was already a way ;) |
| 02:44.52 | JoshBorke | :-P |
| 02:46.19 | RaydenUni | so recounter has some nifty looking graphs, where do i access that? |
| 02:47.03 | hyperChipmunk | JoshBorke: i mean, you generally see only a limited quantity at a time. just add them as you come across them and it should be fine |
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| 02:49.48 | Tuller | so I see there's something afoot on the zip server :P |
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| 02:51.29 | NightHawkTheSane | I'll see you're foot and raise you a pancreas! |
| 02:51.43 | JoshBorke | ~lart tuller |
| 02:51.43 | purl | whips out a sword and chops tuller in half |
| 02:51.46 | JoshBorke | way to not read |
| 02:51.51 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r48784 10Cartographer/ (2 files in 2 dirs): Cartographer - use "CGP" instead of "Cartographer_GuildPositions" for the comm prefix. (Goes into effect on WoW 2.2) |
| 02:51.54 | kadrahil | does Recount add pets damage by default? |
| 02:53.01 | NightHawkTheSane | Quick question, on your character sheet, does spell crit chance include talents? |
| 02:53.40 | JoshBorke | nn all |
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| 02:55.28 | kenlyric | NightHawkTheSane: yes |
| 02:55.45 | kenlyric | if it's for one school, only on the mouseover. |
| 02:56.18 | NightHawkTheSane | hmm |
| 02:56.19 | NightHawkTheSane | weird |
| 02:56.29 | kenlyric | i'm almost 99% sure of this, but can't check atm |
| 02:56.42 | kenlyric | pretty sure my holy crit is 4% higher than everything else. |
| 02:57.05 | NightHawkTheSane | Well, it appears it IS added in, as I've got ~13% spellcrit from gear, and it's showing me ~18% spellcrit |
| 02:57.15 | NightHawkTheSane | but that extra 5% is from tidal mastery, which only applies to healing/lightning spells |
| 02:57.26 | kenlyric | nature spells, maybe? |
| 02:57.28 | NightHawkTheSane | even in the mouseover, it's added to all schools |
| 02:57.33 | kenlyric | hmmm. |
| 02:57.47 | kenlyric | if you get 13 spellcrit from gear, how much do you get from int? |
| 02:58.09 | kenlyric | err, base spellcrit, I mean. |
| 02:58.24 | NightHawkTheSane | hmm |
| 02:58.35 | Xinhuan | you get spellcrit from int |
| 02:58.35 | NightHawkTheSane | actually, that was including the int on my gear... |
| 02:58.42 | Xinhuan | you have base Int too |
| 02:58.43 | NightHawkTheSane | i didn't think about base int |
| 02:58.46 | Xinhuan | and a base crit |
| 02:58.49 | kenlyric | unless it's a bug, it shouldn't be added to all schools. It probably shouldn't be added to any schools. |
| 02:59.11 | kenlyric | if it doesn't say nature spells. |
| 03:00.28 | NightHawkTheSane | hmm |
| 03:00.46 | NightHawkTheSane | So, mousing over int on my char sheet says I get 7.05% spellcrit from my int |
| 03:00.55 | NightHawkTheSane | and I'm getting 9.28% spellcrit from gear |
| 03:01.05 | NightHawkTheSane | which is 16.33% spellcrit.. |
| 03:01.32 | NightHawkTheSane | so is "base" spellcrit like 1.67% or something? |
| 03:02.02 | Xinhuan | the char sheet includes the int from your gear |
| 03:02.09 | NightHawkTheSane | yes |
| 03:02.25 | NightHawkTheSane | when i said 'from gear' i meant from non-int sources |
| 03:02.40 | NightHawkTheSane | ie, "increases your spell critical strike rating by n" |
| 03:03.44 | Xinhuan | i don't know what base crit is, but yeah, that should be the way to get it |
| 03:04.12 | NightHawkTheSane | well, I think I can assume from this that the ~18% my character sheet shows doesn't actually include the tidal mastery talent |
| 03:04.25 | aestil | get dr.dmg |
| 03:04.31 | aestil | and mouse over the actionbar |
| 03:05.07 | Xinhuan | hey if any of you are respeccing, please help me gather base stats data for WoWEquip :) |
| 03:05.17 | Xinhuan | so it can turn into a theorycraft machine |
| 03:05.18 | NightHawkTheSane | aestil: ahh, I have drdamage, but i forgot it did that. |
| 03:05.30 | NightHawkTheSane | I had crit% in tooltip turned off |
| 03:05.49 | NightHawkTheSane | Xinhuan: actually, I was thinking about it, what do you need? |
| 03:06.07 | Xinhuan | http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=8317.20 |
| 03:06.13 | Xinhuan | somewhere in the middle |
| 03:06.17 | Xinhuan | of page 2 |
| 03:06.21 | NightHawkTheSane | bah, link me a post directly :P |
| 03:06.23 | Xinhuan | i have a list of what i need |
| 03:06.30 | Xinhuan | i did - i gave you the link to page 2 |
| 03:06.34 | Xinhuan | see the .20 at the end? |
| 03:06.36 | Xinhuan | :) |
| 03:06.50 | NightHawkTheSane | yes, and i want one that has a # followed by a post id ;) |
| 03:07.35 | ckknight | you know what's tasty? |
| 03:07.38 | ckknight | animals. |
| 03:08.01 | Corgan | what kinds |
| 03:08.13 | NightHawkTheSane | all kindsa. |
| 03:08.41 | Recluse | NightHawkTheSane: http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=8317.msg136431#msg136431 |
| 03:08.46 | Xinhuan | http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=8317.msg136431#msg136431 |
| 03:08.52 | Xinhuan | boo i'm slower |
| 03:08.58 | Recluse | rofl |
| 03:09.15 | NightHawkTheSane | actually I went and found the post myself like 30s ago.;) |
| 03:09.17 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight 07Rock * r48785 10Cartographer/Cartographer/ (15 files in 15 dirs): |
| 03:09.17 | CIA-22 | Cartographer - move core addon to use Rock mixins and libraries. |
| 03:09.17 | CIA-22 | - Tablet-2.0/Dewdrop-2.0 not updated. |
| 03:09.47 | Xinhuan | basically, if i have the base stats of every combination of class/race, then i would be able to "in theory" generate the actual lvl 70 numbers based on the gear |
| 03:09.47 | Recluse | i wonder what addon will get rev 50,000 |
| 03:10.30 | ckknight | I wonder why we don't have multiple svns yet so we don't have to worry about getting to 50,000 |
| 03:10.40 | Recluse | heh |
| 03:12.33 | Fisker- | we must get 50k |
| 03:13.02 | Xinhuan | i could make 1000 commits now, but i'll probably get my account banned ;p |
| 03:13.24 | vithos | mod get is fail get. |
| 03:14.02 | Fisker- | it's not a get |
| 03:15.02 | aestil | epic trash dps necklace drops. |
| 03:15.05 | aestil | no one in raid wants |
| 03:15.07 | aestil | 2 tanks roll |
| 03:15.20 | Neebler | ckknight: is there a way to fine-tune DogTag's "NumTargeting" to show the names of those targeting your target, or to take it a step furtner and show who is not targeting? |
| 03:15.21 | aestil | mt rolls a 4, OT rollsa 1 |
| 03:15.24 | vithos | the armor reducing one? |
| 03:15.32 | aestil | it was a great moment |
| 03:15.39 | ckknight | Neebler: TargetingList |
| 03:15.45 | NightHawkTheSane | Xinhuan: Troll/Shamnan: Str: 103, Agi: 66, Sta: 115, Int: 104, Spi: 121, Armor: 132, Melee AP: 326, Melee Crit: 4.32%, RAP: 56, Spell Crit: 3.5%, 98 mp/5 from spirit, 13 hp/5 from spirit, 4.32% dodge, 5% block |
| 03:15.56 | ckknight | but the not targeting thing isn't available |
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| 03:16.07 | Neebler | thanks :D |
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| 03:16.15 | Xinhuan | can you post that ^^ |
| 03:16.37 | Xinhuan | that's untalented right? |
| 03:16.39 | NightHawkTheSane | yes |
| 03:16.47 | Neebler | targetinglist isn't on the wiki, just a fyi |
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| 03:17.59 | Fisker- | oh hi |
| 03:18.08 | Fisker- | is that sum attacking? |
| 03:18.13 | nymbia | Fisker- smells |
| 03:18.22 | NightHawkTheSane | Xinhuan: posted |
| 03:18.35 | Xinhuan | now i just need about the other 30 combinations hehe |
| 03:18.40 | Xinhuan | of race/class |
| 03:18.40 | Fisker- | i hate you nymbia :( |
| 03:19.05 | nymbia | :'( |
| 03:19.07 | Neebler | does anyone know of an addon that displays who is 'not' targeting your current target? |
| 03:19.08 | Vanish | Is anyone else having problems getting AceUpdater to retrieve the addons list? |
| 03:19.18 | Fisker- | to make it up for me you'll make that ticket addon |
| 03:19.19 | Fisker- | :P |
| 03:19.47 | nymbia | lol |
| 03:19.58 | aestil | am i the only one that wants avion to be finished asap? |
| 03:20.18 | aestil | also, let me take thisi opertunity to thank you nymbia, for quartz. beucase i have always loved it. |
| 03:20.41 | Xinhuan | hi nymbia, i love quartz too :) |
| 03:20.56 | nymbia | thanks guys :) |
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| 03:21.19 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight 07Rock * r48786 10Cartographer/Cartographer/Cartographer_Battlegrounds/Battlegrounds.lua: Cartographer_Battlegrounds - upgrade to Rock |
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| 03:21.24 | Fisker- | i don't love it because nymbia made it :( |
| 03:21.34 | nymbia | you cut me deep Fisker- |
| 03:21.40 | nymbia | <3 |
| 03:21.42 | Fisker- | you wound me :( |
| 03:21.46 | Fisker- | <\3 |
| 03:21.49 | nymbia | :((( |
| 03:21.54 | Fisker- | you cut my balls off |
| 03:21.58 | nymbia | rofl |
| 03:22.32 | Xinhuan | any of you have characters on PTR realm? |
| 03:22.39 | Xinhuan | help me gather race/class stats |
| 03:22.44 | Xinhuan | naked and untalented |
| 03:23.33 | aestil | seriously, the mages/locks in my guild stopped sucking alot less when i forced them to use quartz. |
| 03:23.35 | clad|book | for which levels are you concerned with? |
| 03:23.42 | Xinhuan | just lvl 70 for now |
| 03:24.01 | clad|book | i could copy nelf priest and tauren druid. |
| 03:24.15 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight 07Rock * r48787 10Cartographer/Cartographer/Cartographer_Coordinates/Coordinates.lua: Cartographer_Coordinates - upgrade to Rock |
| 03:24.18 | Xinhuan | someone already posted Tauren Druid i think |
| 03:24.23 | Xinhuan | although you could double check |
| 03:25.13 | Seerah_ | what's the time estimate on transfers now? |
| 03:25.36 | Xinhuan | probably less than 30 minutes |
| 03:25.41 | Xinhuan | or near instant |
| 03:25.47 | clad|book | i can copy pre-mades actually |
| 03:25.55 | clad|book | just tell me what you need. |
| 03:26.12 | Xinhuan | ok what i need is listed in http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=8317.msg136431#msg136431 |
| 03:26.41 | Xinhuan | only have tauren/druid and troll/shaman data at the moment |
| 03:26.47 | Xinhuan | so any other race/class combination is needed |
| 03:27.02 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight 07Rock * r48788 10Cartographer/Cartographer/Cartographer_Foglight/Foglight.lua: Cartographer_Foglight - upgrade to Rock |
| 03:27.59 | clad|book | i'm into something at the moment, I'll see what I can do :P |
| 03:30.00 | Xinhuan | ok :) |
| 03:31.54 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight 07Rock * r48789 10Cartographer/Cartographer/Cartographer_GroupColors/GroupColors.lua: Cartographer_GroupColor - upgrade to Rock |
| 03:32.12 | Fisker- | http://beta.worldofwarcraft.com/ DUN DUN DUN |
| 03:32.14 | Fisker- | not 403 anymore |
| 03:32.17 | Fisker- | anyways work tiem |
| 03:33.48 | Seerah_ | LOL - are all of us clicking that link now? :P |
| 03:33.55 | Seerah_ | it timed out on me |
| 03:34.13 | ckknight | same |
| 03:34.17 | Xinhuan | lol |
| 03:34.23 | Xinhuan | i blame all of you |
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| 03:34.38 | Seerah_ | maybe that's all Fisker meant :P |
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| 03:34.56 | Seerah_ | he's just a big tease |
| 03:35.20 | ckknight | Fisker is a big tease. |
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| 03:35.27 | Xinhuan | he is my pillow punching bag |
| 03:36.04 | Seerah_ | heh |
| 03:36.06 | Seerah_ | :) |
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| 03:43.02 | Mecdemort | is there no way to use an item? i cant even find a protected function |
| 03:43.40 | sylvanaar | something was causing bigtime freezeups in the heroic sethekk i just did |
| 03:43.57 | hyperChipmunk | usecontaineritem? |
| 03:44.14 | sylvanaar | couple people seemed to be using a questsync mod - that was really spammy |
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| 03:44.52 | Mecdemort | any way if i dont know the container slots tho? |
| 03:45.06 | Mecdemort | well i suppose i could just search for it |
| 03:45.27 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight 07Rock * r48791 10Cartographer/Cartographer/Cartographer_InstanceLoot/InstanceLoot.lua: |
| 03:45.27 | CIA-22 | Cartographer_InstanceLoot - upgrade to Rock. |
| 03:45.27 | CIA-22 | - Note: still uses Babble-Boss-2.2. |
| 03:45.50 | aestil | ck is a monstar. tell him to chill out and go have a drink with some grils. |
| 03:46.01 | ckknight | sadly, only 20 |
| 03:46.07 | Mecdemort | girls are for the weak |
| 03:46.12 | ckknight | I have but another whole year before I get to drink with the womens |
| 03:46.17 | hyperChipmunk | useinventoryitem |
| 03:46.24 | hyperChipmunk | you can do a scan to find the item |
| 03:47.02 | aestil | drinking is overrated. womens are not |
| 03:47.09 | Mecdemort | hyperChipmunk: that's to use gear that is equiped |
| 03:47.29 | aestil | i got phat lootz tonight |
| 03:47.48 | hyperChipmunk | yea, well either you have the item in your bag or on your body |
| 03:47.53 | hyperChipmunk | gotta be one of those >8P |
| 03:48.14 | hyperChipmunk | you can UseActionButton too, if you've put it on a bar somewhere |
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| 03:48.34 | Wobwork | 21 is a stupid age of legality =P |
| 03:48.41 | ckknight | true |
| 03:48.59 | Mecdemort | i did way more drinking before 21 than after |
| 03:49.14 | ckknight | I've lost my taste for dating anyway, it never seems worth it in hindsight |
| 03:49.18 | NightHawkTheSane | Yeah, we should let teenagers drink. with luck they'll get drunk and exterminate themselves |
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| 03:49.37 | NightHawkTheSane | ckknight: dude, 20 is way to early to be jaded on women. :P |
| 03:49.51 | Mecdemort | naw thats about right i think |
| 03:49.59 | NightHawkTheSane | nah |
| 03:50.00 | ckknight | sorry, but the percentage of girls who've cheated on me is way too high |
| 03:50.10 | ckknight | which means I go for the wrong type, minimally |
| 03:50.11 | NightHawkTheSane | about 24 is generally when you should get jaded and start hating women. |
| 03:50.24 | NightHawkTheSane | about 26 is when you realize women arn't the problem, and start hating people in general |
| 03:50.25 | Mecdemort | everything happens sooner and sooner ;p |
| 03:51.25 | aestil | i like my wife. she is pretty, has sex with me, and plays wow. |
| 03:51.29 | aestil | win win win? |
| 03:51.34 | Mecdemort | very much so |
| 03:51.49 | Mecdemort | i dated a gamer chick, its just more trouble than its worth :x |
| 03:51.51 | ckknight | get me one of those, aestil |
| 03:52.44 | RaydenUni | i went to an engineering school where the ratio is at least 4:1 m:f, does that mean i get be bitter before 24? |
| 03:52.59 | Mecdemort | go find a townie! |
| 03:53.09 | aestil | my wifie is like one of the best priests in our guild. |
| 03:53.12 | aestil | well, healo preists |
| 03:53.17 | Wobwork | RaydenUni: you can go gay. That increases your dating pool by 3fold |
| 03:53.22 | aestil | i'm the best priest but im the dark evil kind. |
| 03:53.38 | RaydenUni | i don't think that's the solution |
| 03:53.41 | RaydenUni | but i'm not there anymore |
| 03:53.44 | Wobwork | RaydenUni: granted, this will be at an engineering school, so whether you like the results is another matter =P |
| 03:53.47 | Ktron | They're out there |
| 03:53.54 | RaydenUni | the only female 70 in our guild has better gear than most of us |
| 03:54.10 | aestil | we have 4 70's in our 25 man 'core' |
| 03:54.13 | RaydenUni | Wobwork the women say "the odds are good by the goods are odd" |
| 03:54.14 | aestil | that are girls. |
| 03:54.16 | Xinhuan | is she a hunter? :) |
| 03:54.23 | aestil | wife, and 2 other girls. |
| 03:54.35 | RaydenUni | we just refered to RIBS (ratio induced bitch syndrome) |
| 03:54.39 | aestil | she has a 70 hunter also, but no, she's a human female priest. |
| 03:54.52 | RaydenUni | the girl in our guild is a mage |
| 03:54.55 | aestil | but get this, 70 hunter is dwarf female! |
| 03:55.02 | aestil | have a mage and 2 dranei shaman. |
| 03:55.08 | Wobwork | Hehe, by being an engineer, you already have a -hit rate for charisma =P |
| 03:55.09 | aestil | as female players. |
| 03:55.22 | RaydenUni | played DND with her and some friends and we convinced her to change servers on her main to join us |
| 03:55.36 | RaydenUni | charisma is dump but int is good |
| 03:56.19 | Xinhuan | the girl in my guild is a warlock |
| 03:56.36 | Wobwork | You people only have ... one girl in your guild? |
| 03:56.41 | Wobwork | O.O |
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| 03:56.44 | Xinhuan | sadly :( |
| 03:56.47 | Xinhuan | i had 5 once |
| 03:56.51 | Xinhuan | but they kinda quit playing |
| 03:56.53 | Xinhuan | one by one |
| 03:56.59 | Xinhuan | something to do with girl attention span? |
| 03:57.46 | NightHawkTheSane | I think we only have one girl in the guild |
| 03:57.58 | NightHawkTheSane | but our guild is only like 12 people or something |
| 03:58.25 | Xinhuan | we once had 4 girls in a single WSG once |
| 03:58.27 | Xinhuan | 10 ppl |
| 03:58.28 | aestil | i dont' want to set a fire on a hot topic, but i need to ask a question in the bongos2 v. BT3 department. |
| 03:58.33 | Xinhuan | then, an officer came in |
| 03:58.37 | Xinhuan | and heard that |
| 03:58.41 | Xinhuan | on vent |
| 03:58.51 | Xinhuan | he renamed the WSG channel to "Hairdressing Saloon" |
| 03:58.55 | ckknight | lol |
| 03:59.08 | aestil | i'm not worried about the addon memory useage between the 2. |
| 03:59.16 | Xinhuan | and the nick "Hairdresser" stuck on the wsg raid leader ;p |
| 03:59.17 | aestil | and i have no problem checking wowinterface for updates. |
| 03:59.24 | Xinhuan | we were farming CP then |
| 03:59.34 | aestil | and although bongos seems easier to configure/use, i'm not concerned about that either. |
| 03:59.48 | aestil | beyond that, is 1 better than the other? |
| 04:00.04 | NightHawkTheSane | aestil: try both, use what works best for you. end of discussion ;) |
| 04:00.10 | Lukian | aestil, Fubar Usage. |
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| 04:00.29 | aestil | i have used both. |
| 04:00.31 | NightHawkTheSane | both have fubar plugins |
| 04:00.33 | aestil | its basically equal. |
| 04:00.43 | NightHawkTheSane | so flip a coin?:P |
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| 04:00.56 | aestil | and fubar isn't really a plus or a minus. i hiide BT3's fubar plugin and use niagra. |
| 04:00.56 | Sole | HALLO |
| 04:01.02 | NightHawkTheSane | really, the only person who can decide if one mod is better than another is you |
| 04:01.12 | ckknight | or me |
| 04:01.13 | Lukian | Fubar "Usage" for memory/cpu info. |
| 04:01.14 | ckknight | either works |
| 04:01.15 | aestil | not true, i'm asking if one is better written than another. |
| 04:01.27 | aestil | thigns i can't possibly undrestand. |
| 04:04.49 | Lukian | If you can understand numbers, why not check out the cpu and memory usage of each? :) |
| 04:06.32 | aestil | heh. ok. |
| 04:06.34 | aestil | sleep time now. |
| 04:06.44 | RaydenUni | yes our guild has one girl |
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| 04:06.48 | RaydenUni | we are all friends though |
| 04:06.56 | RaydenUni | maybe 10 people who play regularly |
| 04:07.24 | RaydenUni | how many of the women in your guilds do you know personally and play DND with though? :D |
| 04:08.12 | Wobwork | hm |
| 04:08.13 | Wobwork | 1 |
| 04:08.20 | Wobwork | but that's only cause she lives in the same city =P |
| 04:08.27 | NightHawkTheSane | RaydenUni: 1 |
| 04:08.30 | Wobwork | the other women are in the US |
| 04:09.16 | NightHawkTheSane | And yeah, most of my guild is a group of friends, we all know each other in "real life" |
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| 04:28.38 | CIA-22 | - make the filters work in non-western locale after proper localization in the locale file |
| 04:28.38 | CIA-22 | - updated zhTW localization |
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| 04:41.58 | orionshock | ZOMG... cartographer ... |
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| 04:44.18 | orionshock | ping ckknight |
| 04:44.24 | ckknight | pong |
| 04:44.28 | ckknight | what's up? |
| 04:44.33 | ckknight | did I break it? |
| 04:44.44 | orionshock | ofc you broke it ... :P |
| 04:44.54 | orionshock | just wondering if pit bull is in a viable state of use :D |
| 04:45.44 | ckknight | wait, did I break it or are you just joking? |
| 04:45.47 | ckknight | PitBull works fine |
| 04:45.55 | orionshock | was joking |
| 04:45.57 | orionshock | hehe... |
| 04:46.17 | ckknight | okay |
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| 04:48.36 | RaydenUni | !cf us destromath raydenuni |
| 04:48.43 | RaydenUni | !f us destromath raydenuni |
| 04:48.46 | RaydenUni | !help |
| 04:49.35 | RaydenUni | !fc us destromath raydenuni |
| 04:49.36 | ThraeBot | RaydenUni: Raydenuni, Level 70 Priest (13/2/46). 7461 HP; 8145 Mana; +2.3% spell hit; +115 spell crit rating; 526 +shadow. |
| 04:49.47 | RaydenUni | should i be out-threating most tanks? |
| 04:50.11 | Xinhuan | no |
| 04:50.12 | Wobwork | hm |
| 04:50.12 | RaydenUni | doing SL and SH and such |
| 04:50.13 | orionshock | are you RaydenUni ? |
| 04:50.14 | RaydenUni | non heroic |
| 04:50.18 | Wobwork | that's why I <3 being a hunter |
| 04:50.23 | Xinhuan | generally yes |
| 04:50.24 | RaydenUni | except when i run with guildies or KZ geared guys |
| 04:50.25 | Wobwork | easy threat management |
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| 04:50.56 | Xinhuan | a tank can't get aggro on multiple mobs easily while VE and VT generates threat against all enemies |
| 04:50.56 | Wobwork | being overgeared can be just as bad as being undergeared on SL/SH |
| 04:50.58 | RaydenUni | SWP + VE + VT + SWD,MB, MF over and over |
| 04:51.04 | Wobwork | unless you're a pallytank |
| 04:51.14 | RaydenUni | i'm out threating on bosses too |
| 04:51.35 | RaydenUni | i ran with a 69 pally and even with his 30% threat reduction i still pulled aggro |
| 04:53.09 | orionshock | hehe... now thats interesting to see clad say "Lol, people use Dongle? =) Suckers!" |
| 04:53.21 | clad|book | srsly |
| 04:53.22 | RaydenUni | hmm, this guy isn't using sunder... |
| 04:53.35 | RaydenUni | !c us destromath scoliosus |
| 04:53.48 | ckknight | !api SendChatMessage |
| 04:53.48 | ThraeBot | ckknight: SendChatMessage("msg" [, "chatType" [, "language" ] [, "channel" ]]); -- http://www.wowwiki.com/API_SendChatMessage |
| 04:54.05 | RaydenUni | why didn't that work? |
| 04:54.10 | RaydenUni | !c us destromath scoliosus |
| 04:54.40 | RaydenUni | !cu us destromath scoliosus |
| 04:54.52 | RaydenUni | !co us destromath scoliosus |
| 04:54.58 | RaydenUni | !fc us destromath scoliosus |
| 04:54.59 | ThraeBot | RaydenUni: Scoliosus, Level 70 Warrior (8/0/53). 13814 HP; 283 Str; 133 Agi; 13568 Armor; +334 defense; 17.44% dodge; 18.98% block. |
| 04:55.04 | RaydenUni | the crap? |
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| 04:55.39 | RaydenUni | anyways, that is the warrior i'm getting aggro from |
| 04:55.49 | Thrae | !c us destromath scoliosus |
| 04:55.54 | Thrae | !mload armorystats |
| 04:55.54 | ThraeBot | Loaded [armorystats] |
| 04:55.57 | Thrae | !mload armorystats |
| 04:55.57 | ThraeBot | Loaded [armorystats] |
| 04:56.02 | Thrae | !c us destromath scoliosus |
| 04:56.02 | ThraeBot | Thrae: I just said that 13s ago. |
| 04:56.10 | Thrae | No you didn't, you said squatr |
| 04:56.15 | RaydenUni | lol |
| 04:56.17 | Thrae | !c us destromath scoliosus |
| 04:56.17 | ThraeBot | Thrae: I just said that 29s ago. |
| 04:56.25 | Thrae | !c us destromath scoliosus |
| 04:56.27 | ThraeBot | Thrae: Scoliosus, Level 70 Undead Warrior (8/0/53). 13814 HP; 13568 Armour; 756 AP; 113.100 Melee DPS; 5.89% melee crit; 13 melee hit; 334 defense; 17.44% dodge; 18.98% block; 10 shadow resist (+10); +33 all resists (+10 shadow);[[ TBR: 522 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/23b8sa ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/2vkwx9 ][ Updated: Thu Sep 13 01:09:05 2007 ]] |
| 04:56.36 | Thrae | Forgot to reload the code on this server too |
| 05:01.06 | Guillotine | anybody know if luasocket is compatible with vista? |
| 05:01.22 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r48800 10LibRock-1.0/LibRock-1.0.lua: LibRock-1.0 - optimization with contracts. |
| 05:01.54 | RaydenUni | so on the last SH boss, i had to do nothing except DOT or else i would get aggro |
| 05:01.56 | RaydenUni | does that seem normal? |
| 05:02.06 | Xinhuan | whats your +dmg? |
| 05:02.10 | Xinhuan | if its around 1100, then yes |
| 05:02.15 | RaydenUni | !c us destromath raydenuni |
| 05:02.17 | ThraeBot | RaydenUni: Raydenuni, Level 70 Troll Priest (13/2/46). 7461 HP; 8145 Mana; 181 mana regen; 27 mp5; 115 spell crit; 29 spell hit; 437 +spell dmg/heal; 50 frost dmg (487); 89 shadow dmg (526); 5.06% dodge; +3 all resists;[[ TBR: 1298 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/yoe69x ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/3xsogf ][ Updated: Thu Sep 13 01:14:55 2007 ]] |
| 05:02.29 | Xinhuan | 437? then no. |
| 05:02.52 | RaydenUni | then what the heck is going on? |
| 05:02.56 | RaydenUni | am i plagued with bad tanks? |
| 05:03.01 | RaydenUni | !c us destromath yulati |
| 05:03.01 | Xinhuan | tanks not trying |
| 05:03.03 | ThraeBot | RaydenUni: Yulati, Level 70 Tauren Warrior (10/5/46). 11890 HP; 12809 Armour; 1172 AP; 131.900 Melee DPS; 12.66% melee crit; 280 defense; 13.87% dodge; 15.52% block; 33 resilience; 10 nature resist (+10); +33 all resists (+10 nature);[[ TBR: 993 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/2e7hac ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/2orlso ][ Updated: Thu Sep 13 01:15:42 2007 ]] |
| 05:03.08 | RaydenUni | guild warrior, i never pull aggro off him |
| 05:03.29 | Xinhuan | some ppl just have no idea how to generate threat |
| 05:03.37 | Xinhuan | shield slam, devastate, sunders, etc |
| 05:04.19 | Wobwork | one of these days I'll make a warrior |
| 05:04.20 | RaydenUni | so i'm justified asking people if they are specced for tanking and if they have decent gear |
| 05:04.22 | Wobwork | and work on him |
| 05:04.41 | Wobwork | RaydenUni: well not really, cause the ones that can't tank effectively won't say so =P |
| 05:11.59 | orionshock | tbh.. just inspect them... classicly if they have good gear .. (70%+ purple) they're a good tank |
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| 05:12.19 | NightHawkTheSane | pfft |
| 05:12.30 | NightHawkTheSane | you can't just say "ooh purples! he's good!~" |
| 05:13.00 | rob` | it's true |
| 05:13.02 | rob` | we have this one mage |
| 05:13.05 | rob` | solid purples |
| 05:13.06 | NightHawkTheSane | There's blues that are better than some purples, and gear quality is really not related to player skill |
| 05:13.14 | rob` | couldn't dps out of a wet paper bag |
| 05:14.58 | CIA-22 | 03jaslaughter * r48801 10JasonTag/: JasonTag: Initial Commit |
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| 05:15.35 | RaydenUni | gosh darn it |
| 05:15.42 | RaydenUni | i just finished SH, forgot to loot the boss for my quest |
| 05:15.48 | RaydenUni | for some reason it reset |
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| 05:29.27 | NightHawkTheSane | !c us Laughing Skull Amoxicillin |
| 05:29.30 | ThraeBot | NightHawkTheSane: Amoxicillin, Level 70 Blood Elf Priest (0/0/61). 7841 HP; 9150 Mana; 139 mana regen; 118 spell crit; 41 spell hit; 475 +spell dmg/heal; 4.78% dodge;[[ TBR: 552 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/2xvkjm ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/2t8aol ][ Updated: Thu Sep 13 01:42:09 2007 ]] |
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| 05:36.37 | fixt | http://surl.se/picture/20079/100678.jpg what font is that? And also: http://i110.photobucket.com/albums/n109/nightfallii/WoWScrnShot_090507_014630.jpg http://i110.photobucket.com/albums/n109/nightfallii/WoWScrnShot_082607_005553.jpg how is that gradient/border on omen/chatwindows done ? |
| 05:39.11 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r48803 10LibAbacus-3.0/LibAbacus-3.0.lua: LibAbacus-3.0 - fix typo |
| 05:41.16 | Xinhuan | probably an addon called Skinner |
| 05:41.31 | Corgan | the gradient is from eepanels |
| 05:41.31 | Xinhuan | which manually changes the background of every frame of every addon to a gradient |
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| 05:42.13 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight 07Rock * r48804 10Cartographer/Cartographer/Cartographer_Notes/Notes.lua: |
| 05:42.13 | CIA-22 | Cartographer_Notes - upgrade to Rock. |
| 05:42.13 | CIA-22 | - use contracts instead of inline checks. |
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| 05:43.02 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight 07Rock * r48805 10Cartographer/Cartographer/Cartographer_POI/POI.lua: Cartographer_POI - upgrade to Rock |
| 05:43.51 | Tedeum | Im guessing a transparent omen background sitting on top of a custom eepanel |
| 05:44.58 | alcohol | nice UI btw. |
| 05:44.58 | Corgan | it's actually made up of a couple panels |
| 05:45.01 | alcohol | minimalistic <3 |
| 05:45.09 | Corgan | each panel as a border |
| 05:45.13 | Corgan | set as a gradient |
| 05:45.58 | orionshock | allright.. ckknight_ got it working again all of it, cowtip / parriot (wasn't a problem) / and Pit Bull |
| 05:46.55 | alcohol | omfg |
| 05:47.00 | alcohol | files.wowace.com is now paged :< |
| 05:47.10 | ckknight_ | hoorah |
| 05:47.15 | alcohol | that'll really screw up things for automated downloaders |
| 05:48.16 | Corgan | whoa |
| 05:48.21 | Corgan | it's paged.. |
| 05:48.29 | Wobwork | alcohol: they shouldn't be screen scraping =P |
| 05:48.36 | Wobwork | when there's an xml available |
| 05:48.40 | alcohol | yea but even I don't like this |
| 05:48.45 | alcohol | where is it? |
| 05:49.04 | Tedeum | JwowUpdater works fine |
| 05:49.06 | kadrahil | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l48HTZUHfeQ |
| 05:49.08 | kadrahil | hahaha |
| 05:49.48 | Xinhuan | i don't see the point of this 25 paging system |
| 05:49.57 | Xinhuan | since the entire xml file is still downloaded for showing |
| 05:50.12 | art3mis | C makes it easy to shoot yourself in the foot. C++ makes it harder, but when you do, it blows away your whole fucking leg. heh i like this quote |
| 05:50.55 | Thelyna | I dunno, shooting yourself in the foot in C can be pretty deadly |
| 05:51.00 | Thelyna | Seg fault, anyone? |
| 05:51.18 | Thrae | Behold the magicks of GDB |
| 05:51.46 | art3mis | heh |
| 05:51.57 | art3mis | GDB > .core! |
| 05:52.20 | Thrae | GDB and valgrind own your C-coding ass. |
| 05:52.21 | Xinhuan | what i'm saying is, i see no purpose is dividing the files.wowace.com page into 25 pages for display because all 25 pages are downloaded at one go in the first place |
| 05:52.46 | clad|sleep | Xinhuan: its in development |
| 05:52.50 | clad|sleep | it will be able to be unpaged |
| 05:52.52 | clad|sleep | and sorted, etc. |
| 05:52.55 | art3mis | divign them into categories was too complicated ;P |
| 05:52.59 | clad|sleep | (i agree it shouldn't be live yet) |
| 05:53.02 | art3mis | dividing |
| 05:53.02 | Xinhuan | clad you can already sort them |
| 05:53.05 | Xinhuan | it already works |
| 05:53.06 | clad|sleep | but being done this way |
| 05:53.10 | clad|sleep | it gives a lot more flexibility |
| 05:53.19 | clad|sleep | allowing category view, or any number of options |
| 05:53.20 | clad|sleep | since its all rendered in js |
| 05:53.30 | Xinhuan | but i'm saying it doesn't really make sense because the whole HTML of the file already contains all 900 addons |
| 05:53.50 | Wobwork | welcome to web 2.0? =P |
| 05:53.56 | Xinhuan | even though its only displaying some 30 of them at a time |
| 05:54.10 | sedatedChipmunk | yea, it definitely shouldn't be allowed live until we have a dynamic user rating system with fadeoutty animations |
| 05:54.16 | sedatedChipmunk | and roundedier corners |
| 05:54.25 | Xinhuan | like whats the point of downloading all 900 to show only 30 :) |
| 05:54.35 | Wobwork | yeah, I need to be beaten with a (blink) |
| 05:54.39 | art3mis | it makes showing 31-60 faster ;P |
| 05:55.07 | Wobwork | instead of being numbered pages, it should at least be alphabetical listings |
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| 05:55.13 | Xinhuan | i dunno, but now if i want to find addon PQR, i now have to guess which page P ison |
| 05:55.29 | Xinhuan | and i can't ctrl-F to find an addon |
| 05:55.33 | art3mis | OR you could use WAU ;) |
| 05:55.33 | Xinhuan | since only 30 is displayed |
| 05:56.30 | sedatedChipmunk | quit yer whinin' |
| 05:56.33 | sedatedChipmunk | it's not staying that way |
| 05:56.46 | sedatedChipmunk | use svn like everyone else |
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| 05:57.14 | Xinhuan | pfft, that page is used as a main download page for end-users |
| 05:58.54 | alcohol | art3mis: I can't use wau |
| 05:58.56 | Xinhuan | as such it should be catered to end users |
| 05:59.29 | RaydenUni | why don't you use WAU? |
| 05:59.35 | alcohol | I'm not on winblows |
| 05:59.46 | alcohol | also, what about people with no JS browser ? |
| 05:59.54 | alcohol | they get what, a blanc broken page ? |
| 05:59.54 | alcohol | :< |
| 05:59.59 | RaydenUni | forget them? |
| 06:00.04 | alcohol | how rude |
| 06:00.28 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r48806 10LibAbacus-3.0/LibAbacus-3.0.lua: LibAbacus-3.0 - fix typo with getting contract functions |
| 06:00.33 | Xinhuan | i'll say that any computer that can run WoW, is extremely likely to have a browser that supports JS ;p |
| 06:00.42 | alcohol | that's not the point though ! |
| 06:00.43 | alcohol | :< |
| 06:00.58 | NightHawkTheSane | actually |
| 06:01.18 | alcohol | they could have js disabled for security reasons |
| 06:01.20 | NightHawkTheSane | i'm with alcohol.. web standards dictate being capable of being viewed with non-js browsers |
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| 06:01.41 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r48807 10LibRock-1.0/LibRock-1.0.lua: LibRock-1.0 - add check to :GetContractFunctions to make sure a namespace is supplied. |
| 06:01.54 | RaydenUni | it should gracefully fallback to no JS |
| 06:02.16 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r48808 10LibAbacus-3.0/LibAbacus-3.0.lua: LibAbacus-3.0 - typo. value -> duration |
| 06:03.19 | Mecdemort | zomg polymorph turtle finally dropped! |
| 06:03.24 | pastamancer | Can't say I'm a fan of the current implementation either. It will get fixed in some fashion. |
| 06:03.50 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight 07Rock * r48809 10Cartographer/Cartographer/Cartographer_ZoneInfo/ZoneInfo.lua: Cartographer_ZoneInfo - upgrade to Rock |
| 06:03.54 | alcohol | well, I'll be more than happy if a 'all' listing shows up somewhere besides page # x |
| 06:04.03 | alcohol | so, patience it shall be ^^ |
| 06:04.13 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight 07Rock * r48810 10Cartographer/Cartographer/Cartographer_Professions/Professions.lua: Cartographer_Professions - upgrade to Rock |
| 06:04.54 | alcohol | jeebus, my addon folder is 64 mb |
| 06:04.58 | alcohol | I should weed it out |
| 06:06.39 | Diao | mine's like |
| 06:06.49 | Diao | over 100mb :( |
| 06:07.02 | Diao | 129mb to be exact |
| 06:07.05 | alcohol | I have 86 folders including the regular blizzard ones |
| 06:07.12 | Diao | 480some for me :P |
| 06:07.18 | alcohol | oh |
| 06:07.26 | alcohol | nevermind then |
| 06:07.27 | alcohol | :> |
| 06:07.28 | Diao | lol |
| 06:08.29 | Thrae | alcohol: Could be a lot of textures that don't get loaded unless the addon specifically loads them |
| 06:08.37 | Thrae | Or other LoD files |
| 06:08.43 | Xinhuan | sharedmedia-lib |
| 06:08.53 | Xinhuan | could be a culprit |
| 06:09.03 | Xinhuan | bet you don't even use 90% of the textures/sounds in it |
| 06:09.10 | RaydenUni | http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=6921.msg113800 |
| 06:09.13 | Diao | yea |
| 06:09.15 | RaydenUni | how do i get all those windows to display? |
| 06:09.16 | Diao | i only use litestep lol |
| 06:09.21 | RaydenUni | i cant find them in any of the Recount options |
| 06:09.22 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight 07Rock * r48811 10Cartographer/Cartographer/Cartographer_Waypoints/ (6 files): Cartographer_Waypoints - upgrade to Rock |
| 06:09.25 | alcohol | I just deleted that |
| 06:09.26 | alcohol | :< |
| 06:09.32 | alcohol | whats with all these rock upgrades ? |
| 06:09.41 | RaydenUni | oh it tells you |
| 06:09.44 | Diao | ckknight is converting his addons to rock |
| 06:09.45 | Diao | that's all |
| 06:09.49 | alcohol | ah |
| 06:09.58 | alcohol | ckknight made cartographer ? |
| 06:10.05 | alcohol | man, that's my favorite mod by far |
| 06:10.10 | alcohol | that, and smartbuff/decursive |
| 06:10.53 | alcohol | time for work, adios |
| 06:11.55 | ckknight | alcohol: I make lots of mods |
| 06:12.08 | ckknight | FuBar, Cartographer, PitBull, CowTip, Parrot |
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| 06:14.18 | alcohol | fubar <3 |
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| 06:18.22 | Lukian | Pitbull's very nice, but it's CPU usage is very high too :( |
| 06:19.32 | ckknight_ | Lukian: a big issue of that is the Aura module |
| 06:19.44 | ckknight_ | I recommend checking out PitBull_AltAura |
| 06:19.51 | ckknight_ | it's a drop-in replacement |
| 06:20.15 | Lukian | will do |
| 06:21.09 | Tedeum | hmm so new cart has rock options interface? |
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| 06:21.18 | Diao | altaura bugs for me even more than regular aura :( |
| 06:21.21 | Diao | i get errors all the time |
| 06:21.22 | Diao | with it |
| 06:21.50 | ckknight | really? |
| 06:21.50 | ckknight | I never have |
| 06:21.54 | ckknight | Tedeum: not yet. |
| 06:22.03 | ckknight | Tedeum: everything else uses Rock, though |
| 06:22.09 | ckknight | just not the configuration |
| 06:22.15 | ckknight | not 100% sure on how I'm gonna handle that |
| 06:22.17 | Tedeum | ok looking forward to seeing that aspect of rock, hate dewdrop |
| 06:22.31 | Diao | i get stuff like |
| 06:22.33 | Diao | unknown token: you |
| 06:22.36 | Diao | or unknown token: shoot |
| 06:22.41 | ckknight | hrm |
| 06:22.42 | ckknight | weird |
| 06:22.51 | Diao | and then i also get the weird box covering screen error |
| 06:22.52 | Tedeum | and whilst waterfall makes it usable it lacks.... pizzazz |
| 06:22.56 | ckknight | I'm thinking for the "go to" menu it can stay Dewdrop-style |
| 06:22.59 | Diao | which i thought it was supposed to fix :( |
| 06:23.09 | ckknight | but the actual config can be RockConfig |
| 06:23.32 | ckknight | Diao, no, it was supposed to fix CPU issues |
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| 06:24.51 | Diao | oh |
| 06:27.02 | etip | what is Rock ? or where can i check it out ? |
| 06:27.21 | ckknight | ~rock |
| 06:27.21 | purl | well, rock is an addon framework for World of Warcraft written by ckknight. More information is available at http://wowace.com/wiki/Rock. |
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| 06:27.37 | ckknight | etip: currently the addons that use it are in branches |
| 06:27.42 | ckknight | so you need an svn client to test em out |
| 06:27.52 | etip | ok |
| 06:27.54 | etip | thanks |
| 06:28.17 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight 07Rock * r48812 10Cartographer/Cartographer/Cartographer.toc: Cartographer - remove -Ace2- from TOC |
| 06:28.54 | Wobwork | Did you replace it with -Rock-? =P |
| 06:29.01 | etip | i'm confused lol |
| 06:29.25 | Wobwork | etip: Don't worry about it, as an end user, you generally don't have to be concerned about the framework used |
| 06:29.42 | ckknight | no, Wobwork |
| 06:29.49 | Wobwork | ckknight: good =) |
| 06:30.04 | ckknight | etip: Rock is like Ace2, only more recent |
| 06:30.19 | etip | ok, just read it was the joker project you were working on |
| 06:30.26 | Wobwork | yep, same thing renamed |
| 06:30.27 | etip | makes more sense now |
| 06:30.37 | etip | sweeeeet :) |
| 06:31.10 | ckknight | oh, yea, Joker = Rock |
| 06:31.10 | ckknight | I renamed it |
| 06:31.10 | ckknight | because Rock sounded cooler |
| 06:31.34 | ckknight | among other reasons. |
| 06:31.47 | Lukian | hehe |
| 06:32.50 | Lukian | so basically with Rock we can expect addons to be a bit more resource friendly? |
| 06:36.33 | Wobwork | That's the plan with most of the frameworks =) |
| 06:36.50 | Lukian | lol true |
| 06:37.05 | Wobwork | although, really, the best resolution we've had so far is the agreeance towards agnostic libraries |
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| 06:37.26 | Wobwork | that is, libraries that do not depend on any framework |
| 06:37.37 | Wobwork | the more of those available, the better resources will be used overall |
| 06:37.50 | Wobwork | since it won't be restricted to just one framework |
| 06:40.29 | art3mis | anyone admin exchange? |
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| 06:43.47 | ckknight | that's arguable, Wobwork |
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| 06:45.48 | Xinhuan | the only way to have more resources is to use less addons. |
| 06:45.58 | Antiarc | Not true |
| 06:46.15 | Antiarc | If you use certain addons, then your total resource availability goes UP! |
| 06:46.17 | ckknight | if every library were agnostic and also kept dependencies to a minimum (as has been a stated goal), then libraries might need to replicate functions |
| 06:46.21 | Antiarc | See, the benchmarker I wrote says so |
| 06:46.33 | ckknight | which could theoretically be provided by a framework |
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| 06:46.41 | ckknight | or other libraries in general |
| 06:47.49 | ckknight | and yes, some addons themselves are coded poorly |
| 06:47.53 | ckknight | <cough>KTM</cough> |
| 06:47.56 | orionshock | ckknight: the real question then would be , is there an performance increase by centralizing those functions , and if so is that increase a significance? |
| 06:48.14 | ZealotOnAStick | ckknight: go look at DoTimer sometime. |
| 06:48.37 | ckknight | orionshock: well, the kicker for me is that if it's written once instead of multiple times, if a bug appears, it'd only need to be fixed once. |
| 06:48.47 | ckknight | or if the kinds vary from one to another |
| 06:48.51 | ckknight | and has race conditions and the like |
| 06:48.54 | ckknight | *shudder* |
| 06:49.02 | Mikk | orionshock: performance increase as in cpu usage? depends on the developer. a well-written specialized implementation will always use less cpu than a well-written general implementation. |
| 06:49.12 | Mikk | ckk has a valid point about tough logic stuff though |
| 06:50.00 | orionshock | i used a generic term for a reason, as there, has always appeared a difference of opinions on what is a performance increase |
| 06:50.04 | ckknight | also, it's possible to miss some implementation details in a specialized implementation |
| 06:51.14 | Mikk | lag? |
| 06:51.18 | ckknight | and to keep bugs at a minimum, I think it's typically better to have a well-written generalized one than lots of crappy ones (cause in practice, that's how it's worked for me) |
| 06:51.23 | ckknight | Mikk: quite possible |
| 06:51.30 | ckknight | alright, I gotta go |
| 06:51.34 | ckknight | cya all later |
| 06:51.36 | orionshock | hehe .. tbh ckknight i moved over to the branch version of pitbull, and my addon usage went down |
| 06:51.47 | ckknight | yea, I figured it would |
| 06:51.54 | orionshock | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:52.08 | Mikk | but imo there's a difference between forcing 75kb of LibRock + 25kb of LibRockEvent upon a library just to be able to do do callbacks, vs forcing 5kb of CallbackHandlerLib on it |
| 06:52.30 | Lukian | What's a Primal Nether usually worth in crafts? |
| 06:52.50 | Mikk | i see anywhere between 50g and 150g on my server |
| 06:52.54 | ckknight | orionshock: there's still other Rock-based optimizations I can do |
| 06:52.55 | ZealotOnAStick | Depends on the server, around 100g on Blackhand. |
| 06:53.00 | ckknight | especially wrt the config system |
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| 06:53.15 | ckknight | with Rock's config system, a lot of things can be optimized by doing things on the fly |
| 06:53.32 | Arrowmaster | i dont do anything but raid nowadays but when i have primal nethers i sell them for 100g, others on my server sell for as low as 75g though |
| 06:53.41 | ckknight | Mikk: yea, I see that point, but I'm gonna load LibRock and LibRockEvent anyway, so no big deal |
| 06:53.45 | ckknight | okay, cya |
| 06:54.05 | orionshock | ya i nuked my pitbull.lua sv and had to reconfigure it from scratch... and the interface is way better |
| 06:54.15 | Arrowmaster | still i cant seem to ever keep a primal nether in my bags for very long even though i charge one of the most expenive rates on my server |
| 06:55.00 | Arrowmaster | probably because i have all but 1 of the boe tailoring patterns that nobody wants to spend gold on |
| 06:56.23 | Lukian | yeah, I'm wondering if I could make the cash back on the Windslayer Wraps recipe |
| 06:56.30 | Lukian | LW druid item |
| 06:56.42 | orionshock | Lukian: no |
| 06:56.47 | Arrowmaster | my friends the same way |
| 06:56.53 | orionshock | those types of things you get b/c you can |
| 06:56.59 | Arrowmaster | hes got almost every lw pattern on his rogue |
| 06:57.31 | Arrowmaster | used to farm up the mats and make items then sell them for lots of profit on the AH |
| 06:58.14 | Lukian | yeah farming is so easy :D |
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| 06:58.34 | Lukian | orionshock, class/spec? :p |
| 06:58.40 | orionshock | feral druid |
| 06:58.45 | Lukian | rofl |
| 06:59.00 | Lukian | Guess you just hate the repetition? :p |
| 06:59.01 | Arrowmaster | well hes a rogue and it was mainly farming cobra scales and primals |
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| 07:00.02 | orionshock | i do dailys, and pvp , and when my guild isn't Fucking-around in kara ... i raid |
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| 07:04.24 | NightHawkTheSane | "Can't the world wait just one day for deep space telemetry?" "Have you SEEN how much deep space is out there?" |
| 07:05.22 | Nargiddley | that sounds like roughly 4 episodes ago :D |
| 07:05.36 | Nargiddley | or way ahead depending heh |
| 07:05.44 | NightHawkTheSane | hehe |
| 07:05.48 | NightHawkTheSane | 715 ;) |
| 07:05.53 | NightHawkTheSane | "Chimera" |
| 07:05.55 | Nargiddley | then way ahead |
| 07:06.11 | Nargiddley | just finished 217 |
| 07:06.19 | NightHawkTheSane | nice |
| 07:06.23 | ZealotOnAStick | hrm. Sounds familiar. |
| 07:06.37 | ZealotOnAStick | SG1? |
| 07:06.40 | NightHawkTheSane | indeed |
| 07:06.58 | orionshock | someone wana add the dailys to Automation? |
| 07:08.13 | NightHawkTheSane | "I must have read everything you've ever published." "...Everything?" "Yes." "What a waste of time." |
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| 07:15.41 | NightHawkTheSane | "In the dream the tablet was written in ancient, and in the dream I could also read ancient." "Well that's not so odd, because you can also do that when you're awake." |
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| 07:19.55 | NightHawkTheSane | "Knowing your past experiences, Daniel Jackson, I do not know how you have slept well before now." "Thank you Teal'c, this conversation has been disturbing on.. many levels." |
| 07:20.33 | Xinhuan | http://www.thewsvg.com/ -- WSVG cancelled |
| 07:21.33 | RaydenUni | that's too bad |
| 07:22.07 | evl | But don't tell me this comes as a shock |
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| 07:22.24 | evl | Gamers are hardly big spenders last I checked |
| 07:23.37 | Arrowmaster | and usually assholes too when it comes to competing, or atleast in my experience of running tournaments at lan partys the ones for certain games are |
| 07:24.14 | Arrowmaster | listening to CS players bitch about tick rates has got to be the worst |
| 07:25.09 | ZealotOnAStick | evl: some aren't, some are. Generally speaking, the majority of gamers tend to have a fairly good amount of disposable income. |
| 07:25.15 | Arrowmaster | not to mention they always bitch about music being played |
| 07:26.02 | evl | Sure we buy hardware, but "tickets" are free, there's no supporter gear or sales of players or anything to really create anytjing other than another youtube channel |
| 07:26.19 | Arrowmaster | i found it extremely odd that the CS players would bitch about music being played by the DJ but the UT2k4 and Q4 players didnt |
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| 07:34.23 | pb_ee1 | Morning |
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| 07:45.16 | TNSe | wtf |
| 07:45.25 | TNSe | wsvg cancelled "we're gonna do more advertising" |
| 07:45.29 | TNSe | advertise on WHAT? |
| 07:45.37 | TNSe | you're no longer interesting dudes. |
| 07:45.47 | Sole | CS players = think they're celebs |
| 07:46.03 | Sole | UT/Quake players = the real pro gamers |
| 07:46.13 | Sole | yes I am completely biased towards UT because I love it |
| 07:46.15 | Sole | sue me |
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| 07:46.58 | ZealotOnAStick | So, I just finished watching A Fistful of Fingers. |
| 07:47.59 | ZealotOnAStick | Supposedly from the same guy who directed Shaun of the Dead. |
| 07:48.07 | ZealotOnAStick | It's a colossal fucking waste of time. |
| 07:48.12 | art3mis | not amusing? |
| 07:48.39 | ZealotOnAStick | Imagine a western parody that doesn't take itself seriously at all. |
| 07:48.49 | ZealotOnAStick | Now, remove any actual intentional humor. |
| 07:49.07 | art3mis | how does it compare to say kung pow? |
| 07:49.46 | ZealotOnAStick | Kung Pow is better, though perhaps stupider. |
| 07:50.12 | art3mis | wow |
| 07:50.16 | art3mis | thast pretty crappy then |
| 07:50.25 | Wobwork | That's the one with the insertion of the main character into the old chinese kungfu movies? |
| 07:50.28 | art3mis | just same writer/director? |
| 07:50.33 | art3mis | yeah |
| 07:50.38 | art3mis | and his gopher chucks |
| 07:50.44 | Wobwork | TWELVE NUTS? THAT'S A WHOLE LOTTA NUTS! |
| 07:50.50 | art3mis | black betty |
| 07:50.55 | art3mis | best part of the movie |
| 07:50.57 | Wobwork | bam-balam |
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| 07:51.09 | art3mis | "what out when he plays black betty he doesnt want to dance he HURTS you!" |
| 07:51.51 | art3mis | the gopher chucks at the start had me in tears just from the squeaky noises they made while he was whipping them around |
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| 07:52.43 | art3mis | whats even funnier is that my wife and last girlfriend both dESPISE the movie |
| 07:53.00 | art3mis | even though he's one of the odrkirks from the simpsons AND wrote bruce almighty |
| 07:53.20 | art3mis | yet somehow he's "not funny at all" |
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| 08:09.49 | Sole | what type of file is .do ? |
| 08:09.57 | Sole | Im on this website which is using the .do extension on its pages |
| 08:10.10 | Lukian | anything |
| 08:10.15 | Lukian | anything can be anything :D |
| 08:10.55 | CIA-22 | 03siz * r48813 10FuBar_AddonSpamFu/ (. AddonSpamFu.lua FuBar_AddonSpamFu.toc embeds.xml): |
| 08:10.55 | CIA-22 | FuBar_AddonSpamFu: |
| 08:10.55 | CIA-22 | - Will have a minimap button if FuBar is disabled or missing |
| 08:10.55 | CIA-22 | - RollCall is no longer embedded. It will be used if it's already running (for Cartographer) though |
| 08:10.55 | CIA-22 | - Use Babble-Class instead of PaintChips and add it to externals |
| 08:10.56 | CIA-22 | - Updated deDE translation by Farook |
| 08:11.48 | cryogen | Sole: Web-based Java program run by a Web server, such as IBM WebSphere; typically mapped to the Struts controller; used for generating dynamic Web pages |
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| 08:12.08 | Sole | cryogen: cool |
| 08:12.15 | Sole | well its shit |
| 08:12.18 | cryogen | or not |
| 08:12.18 | Sole | too slow |
| 08:12.20 | cryogen | java, shudder |
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| 08:13.04 | CIA-22 | 03ammo 07Alpha * r48814 10Ace3/AceEvent-3.0-CallbackHandler/CallbackHandler-1.0.lua: Ace3: CallbackHandler-1.0 - add Id to svn tags |
| 08:13.41 | Lukian | when can we expect to see ace3 addons? :) |
| 08:14.22 | Thrae | Lukian: Whenever people decide to start using it. But I hope that would be after the first release candidate of the framework ;) |
| 08:14.36 | Lukian | hehe |
| 08:14.41 | [Ammo] | Ace3 is a steaming pile of poo atm |
| 08:14.48 | [Ammo] | sometimes we find gems in it |
| 08:14.49 | [Ammo] | :) |
| 08:15.02 | Lukian | so it'll be ready before the expansion? :p |
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| 08:15.21 | Lukian | maybe I should rephrase that to after |
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| 08:17.40 | Steuder_ | hey |
| 08:17.58 | [Ammo] | Lukian: there's no set in stone timeline |
| 08:18.05 | [Ammo] | Lukian: but it's coming along |
| 08:18.44 | Steuder_ | anyone got a clue how to link a local image on mediawiki post? i can only link urls :o |
| 08:19.54 | Mikk | [[image:imagename.ext]] shows the image |
| 08:20.01 | Mikk | [[:image:imagename.ext]] is a link to it |
| 08:20.10 | Steuder_ | ty |
| 08:23.38 | Steuder_ | dosnt work |
| 08:23.49 | Steuder_ | i got a image in Inetpub\wwwroot\mediawiki\images |
| 08:23.56 | cryogen | are there any up to date noobie guides out there? most things i find are not relavant to 2.0 |
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| 08:24.44 | CIA-22 | FuBar_AddonSpamFu: |
| 08:24.44 | CIA-22 | - Collapse all players in the list by default |
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| 08:28.18 | Mikk | Steuder_: you have to upload the image via the wiki interface |
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| 08:31.09 | pb_ee1 | ~seen ckknight |
| 08:31.10 | purl | ckknight <n=ckknight@rrcs-74-62-251-185.west.biz.rr.com> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 1h 37m 25s ago, saying: 'okay, cya'. |
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| 08:33.54 | CIA-22 | SimpleCombatLog: |
| 08:33.54 | CIA-22 | - added 'focus' to supported unitid. |
| 08:33.54 | CIA-22 | - added option 'color names by class'. |
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| 09:08.11 | baer_ | moin. |
| 09:10.05 | baer_ | anyone got REALLY small raidframes? |
| 09:10.15 | Arrowmaster | grid |
| 09:10.15 | baer_ | actually i just need names & hp |
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| 09:11.23 | CIA-22 | 03cronan * r48817 10BigBrother/localization_koKR.lua: |
| 09:11.23 | CIA-22 | BigBrother: |
| 09:11.23 | CIA-22 | - Update koKR |
| 09:11.43 | pb_ee1 | baer_: PerfectRaid? |
| 09:11.45 | baer_ | no groups, no mana/rage/energy |
| 09:12.00 | baer_ | pb_ee1: haven't tried that yet. any screenshots available? |
| 09:12.05 | abbat_w | grid! |
| 09:12.06 | pb_ee1 | http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info4673-PerfectRaid.html |
| 09:12.20 | pb_ee1 | I think that's what you are looking for |
| 09:13.14 | baer_ | pb_ee1: jup, that looks minimal enough |
| 09:13.40 | baer_ | abbat_w, Arrowmaster: i already use grid, but as a warlock i do not care for debuffs or stuff :) |
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| 09:13.56 | CIA-22 | TextSpy: |
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| 09:14.16 | pb_ee1 | I would not be able to play correctly without Grid hehe :P |
| 09:16.21 | Nickenyfiken | me neither |
| 09:16.33 | orionshock | ... wow... |
| 09:16.39 | Nickenyfiken | Although i haven't played a healer class for a while |
| 09:16.47 | orionshock | <PROTECTED> |
| 09:16.58 | orionshock | and the only responses i get are "Whats Ony?" |
| 09:17.05 | Wobin_ | http://youtube.com/watch?v=g0G9vDKcdLg |
| 09:20.25 | Arrowmaster | the entire point of grid is that its customizable, if you dont care about debuffs then dont show them |
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| 09:30.02 | pb_ee1 | Hum.... it's not really interesting to have a big addon if you only use 5% of it |
| 09:30.41 | pb_ee1 | Grid does much more that he does not need |
| 09:30.58 | Lukian | orionshock, rofl! |
| 09:31.07 | orionshock | eh? |
| 09:31.16 | Lukian | What's ony? :D |
| 09:31.40 | orionshock | i is not joking |
| 09:32.06 | orionshock | my version of kara attunement was way worse... |
| 09:32.14 | Lukian | i wonder if there's any useful loot there still.. |
| 09:32.24 | Lukian | *checks* |
| 09:32.31 | orionshock | their ain't |
| 09:33.07 | Lukian | FR trinket? |
| 09:33.44 | orionshock | kara attunment : Bring back the heads of Rag, Nef, KT, Ony, Kuthune -- then go get the key frags from SL / SV / Arc |
| 09:36.16 | orionshock | i swear that authors that built in a on zone version check had no clue what they where doing |
| 09:37.54 | Lukian | pretty much all addons doing that return sub-zones yeah? |
| 09:38.34 | orionshock | threat / LVBM / WIM / X-Perl - on major zone change ie BG/Login/Party change |
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| 10:51.10 | Lukian | Trying to configure Pitbull, how do I get "Current HP - Missing HP" (not the fractional version) ? |
| 10:52.04 | abbat_w | Lukian, try to look at DogTag documentation on wowace |
| 10:52.26 | abbat_w | Pitbull works with DogTag and all tags are defined in DogTag |
| 10:53.02 | abbat_w | oops |
| 10:53.07 | abbat_w | wowace not work for me now |
| 10:53.24 | abbat_w | But at wowace you can look DogTag documentation |
| 10:53.36 | abbat_w | Also you can find some information in forum |
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| 10:53.49 | abbat_w | Ace2 addons -> unit frames |
| 10:54.21 | abbat_w | There is thread with name like 'post you pitbull layouts' and 'interesting dogtag sequence' - something like that |
| 10:55.22 | dylanm | Lukian: http://wowace.com/wiki/DogTag-1.0/Tags#Health |
| 10:58.47 | Lukian | cheers |
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| 10:59.53 | abbat_w | Lukian: http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=6878.0 |
| 10:59.59 | abbat_w | also you can look here |
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| 11:20.52 | Recluse | uhm, so did the kiwi die? |
| 11:21.29 | Lukian | :o racist! |
| 11:21.32 | JoshBorke | wiki? |
| 11:21.48 | Recluse | kiwi XD someone linked a kiwi video back a ways |
| 11:22.01 | Recluse | -> http://youtube.com/watch?v=g0G9vDKcdLg |
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| 11:25.12 | charon | afternoon |
| 11:25.29 | Recluse | hello |
| 11:25.29 | JoshBorke | morning |
| 11:31.25 | charon | [Ammo]: the cooldown display is still doing weird things... last night when i unlocked and moved it, it re-set scale to 100% effectively, 0% in the options |
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| 11:45.57 | Gatsu | hi |
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| 12:02.51 | Lukian | Violation gets my vote for best lightweight damage meter :) |
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| 12:21.43 | CIA-22 | 03borlox * r48823 10/branches/Layout-1.0/: |
| 12:21.43 | CIA-22 | Layout-1.0: |
| 12:21.43 | CIA-22 | - creating branch |
| 12:22.20 | CIA-22 | 03jerry 07jerry * r48824 10Grid/Grid/ (GridLayout.lua GridStatusHealth.lua): |
| 12:22.20 | CIA-22 | Grid: (branch) |
| 12:22.20 | CIA-22 | _ Lose status "Feign Death" and "Low Health" when Dead. |
| 12:22.20 | CIA-22 | _ Support horizontal mode. |
| 12:23.43 | CIA-22 | 03Tristan * r48825 10Enhancer/Enhancer.toc: |
| 12:23.43 | CIA-22 | Enhancer: |
| 12:23.43 | CIA-22 | - Added reference to AceDebug in .toc file since some of the libraries included demands it. |
| 12:28.15 | CIA-22 | 03borlox 07Borlox * r48826 10Layout-1.0/: |
| 12:28.15 | CIA-22 | Layout-1.0: |
| 12:28.15 | CIA-22 | - I stop working on Layout-1.0, but maybe someone finds this code useful. |
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| 12:30.09 | CIA-22 | 03borlox * r48827 10Layout-1.0/ (Layout-1.0/ Layout-1.0.toc libs/): |
| 12:30.09 | CIA-22 | Layout-1.0: |
| 12:30.09 | CIA-22 | - Moved the code to branches/Layout-1.0/Borlox |
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| 12:45.28 | Recluse | AceDB:RegisterDefaults(table1, table2) would place items from table2 into table1 only if table1 is missing that item? or how does that work? |
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| 13:01.51 | Recluse | bleh - will this work out? http://recluse.pastey.net/73810 |
| 13:02.37 | sylvanaar | what usage is table1,table2? |
| 13:03.00 | Recluse | see pastey XD, i dunno what i was thinking about the default thing |
| 13:03.14 | Recluse | up too late, too little coffee |
| 13:03.51 | sylvanaar | what are you trying to do? |
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| 13:04.47 | Recluse | well, in my addon, i have triggers, and the triggers need certain options, but as i add new features, triggers get new options, and throw errors if the table values do not have defaults, so i wanted something to compare them to when the addon loads to make sure the triggers have the latest table layout |
| 13:05.13 | sylvanaar | acedb does that for you |
| 13:05.19 | sylvanaar | do you use it? |
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| 13:06.21 | Recluse | that was my initial thought was "acedb'd do it" but then i got lost in the logic of register defaults for some reason, and ended up writing that function in the pastey there, but haven't tested it lol. i do have acedb in my addon yeah. which function should i be looking at? |
| 13:07.26 | Recluse | i essentially need a "safe" table copy that preserves the current table data but adds and removes fields(keys) that don't exist or no longer exist |
| 13:07.39 | sylvanaar | i think Prat's customfilter module does what your addon does, have you ever seen/used it |
| 13:08.19 | Recluse | i have not used prat, no XD |
| 13:11.17 | clad|sleep | Recluse: you just need a copyTable that copies values without overwriting? |
| 13:11.42 | sylvanaar | he just needs defaults |
| 13:11.52 | cladhaire | oh, they're easy with acedb |
| 13:11.54 | cladhaire | 2 and 3 :P |
| 13:11.56 | Recluse | kindof a synchronize |
| 13:12.03 | cladhaire | my bad ;-) |
| 13:16.22 | CIA-22 | 03pb_ee1 * r48828 10Elephant/Locale-zhTW.lua: |
| 13:16.22 | CIA-22 | Elephant: |
| 13:16.22 | CIA-22 | - Changing back zhTW 'filters' translation to FILTERS. |
| 13:16.22 | CIA-22 | - /!\ helium: If the translation of L['Filters'] is not correct, please change it back and tell me what is not correct in the log message. Thanks for your work btw! ;-) /!\ |
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| 13:16.37 | Recluse | hrm, well i setup a :RegisterDefaults() thing for my base menu table in :OnInitialize(), but that has a subtable which gets populated dynamically, and that's where i got to wondering how best to do that |
| 13:16.42 | sylvanaar | which is the same thing i suppose, yeah |
| 13:16.50 | sylvanaar | whats 2 and 3? |
| 13:17.04 | sylvanaar | oh |
| 13:17.15 | cladhaire | yeah, sorry |
| 13:17.44 | dreamss | could someone version me? |
| 13:18.23 | dreamss | ty |
| 13:18.35 | Industrial | lulz pidgin doesn't do ctcp |
| 13:18.56 | sylvanaar | Recluse: using the ["*"] "feature" |
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| 13:20.34 | Shamino | i'm trying to print an item string in chat.... and it nolonger actually shows the link, just the string. ie... |cffffd000|Henchant:32808|h[Jewelcrafting: Solid Stone Statue]|h|r any familiar with how to make that appear as a link, and not the string? this is via a macro, or me just copy/paste into chat edit frame |
| 13:20.43 | sylvanaar | Recluse ok wait, im giving you answers to incomplete questions...so, maybe i should reword. Have you looked at the ["*"] notation for setting defaults |
| 13:20.56 | Recluse | somekey = { ["*"] = { defkeys = defvalues, andso = on } } ? |
| 13:21.48 | sylvanaar | is that how your data is organized? |
| 13:22.58 | sylvanaar | somekey.somesubkey = { akey = aval } |
| 13:23.02 | CIA-22 | 03pb_ee1 * r48829 10Elephant/Locale-zhCN.lua: Elephant: Chinese users should now be able to use filters (thanks to helium for the info). |
| 13:23.50 | Industrial | vmware is going open source! |
| 13:25.07 | Industrial | I care :D |
| 13:25.26 | sylvanaar | why |
| 13:25.50 | Industrial | Free(tm) virtualization for everyone |
| 13:25.58 | Industrial | yes, there is Xen, but still. |
| 13:26.11 | FrostByghte | holy hell, vmware going os...coolness |
| 13:26.12 | Industrial | I think Vmware is a good product - and by going open source it can only improve |
| 13:26.50 | Industrial | why _not_ care :P |
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| 13:30.57 | Lukian | How I do have closetgnome get me nekkid? |
| 13:31.08 | Lukian | ie. take all durable gear off |
| 13:31.20 | [dRaCo] | Create a set with all those slots empty |
| 13:32.36 | mitch0 | industrial: this one is a log more interesting to me: AMD Releases 900+ Pages Of GPU Specs |
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| 13:33.47 | mitch0 | industrial: besides, as far as I can see vmware only released some vmware tools, not the server |
| 13:35.27 | art3mis | tis a good day all around for everyone |
| 13:35.49 | art3mis | the amd thing makes me happy and fosters a long standing belief i'v had that they would make ATI WAY better |
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| 13:36.10 | art3mis | and the amount of piracy that vmware gets anyways it was bound to happen ;P |
| 13:36.35 | art3mis | they do't have the muscle that MS has to hinder it and it actually benefits them |
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| 13:39.50 | Recluse | sylvanaar: short and sweet :p http://recluse.pastey.net/73812 |
| 13:40.15 | Industrial | http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=8381.new#new |
| 13:40.17 | Industrial | rarrrrr |
| 13:41.44 | sylvanaar | Recluse call it in OnInitialize |
| 13:42.26 | sylvanaar | its going to be free? |
| 13:42.37 | Recluse | sylvanaar: D= whoops, yes, the registerdefaults should be oninitialize(), my bad |
| 13:44.13 | sylvanaar | i want a refund on my liscense then |
| 13:44.20 | Recluse | but in triggers = {} @ registerdefaults, I could add the ["*"] and pass in the default trigger table structure? |
| 13:44.45 | Recluse | erm, safely do so XD |
| 13:45.12 | sylvanaar | its not VMWare |
| 13:45.18 | sylvanaar | its VMWare Tools |
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| 13:54.19 | kenlyric | art3mis: wait, ATI is better now? |
| 13:54.33 | Dotted | yes |
| 13:54.49 | kenlyric | this is a fascinating turn of events. |
| 13:54.55 | kenlyric | like the Bangles winning the superbowl. |
| 13:55.13 | Dotted | superbowl is boooooooooooooooooooooring |
| 13:55.23 | kenlyric | or, the absolute worst of anything winning anything. |
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| 13:56.24 | krka_ | wait... we like ati now, but we dont like amd? i am so confused |
| 13:56.41 | Dotted | ati == amd |
| 13:56.43 | kenlyric | I'm still on the fence about this ATI thing. |
| 13:56.52 | kenlyric | a long decade of hatred and misery. |
| 13:58.07 | kenlyric | and how could you like AMD? their chips don't heat single-family homes. |
| 13:58.52 | Dotted | ati is now the awesome, amd have always been the awesome - eod :p |
| 13:58.56 | kenlyric | though intel finally came around when they had to start shipping liquid nitrogen cooling systems with their CPUs |
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| 14:01.16 | Lukian | Pitbull's top of cpu usage of all my addons :p |
| 14:02.20 | Recluse | what i wouldn't give for some x,y editboxes/sliders for pitbull frame locations. so hard to drag a frame 1 pixel up/down with the mouse |
| 14:02.46 | Lukian | needs more styles built in, like agUF has |
| 14:03.05 | Lukian | agUF is so lightweight in comparsion, but I guess pitbull is way more features |
| 14:03.29 | sylvanaar | you turn all the modules on? |
| 14:04.12 | harldephin | ~seen Bima |
| 14:04.15 | purl | i haven't seen 'bima', harldephin |
| 14:05.22 | dreamss | serisly i tought agUF was bloated |
| 14:05.34 | Lukian | sylvanaar, only druidbarbar and spark |
| 14:05.37 | dreamss | pitbull must be awefull if ur settings get reset |
| 14:06.01 | Lukian | (over what agUF has by default) |
| 14:06.24 | sylvanaar | you just save your layouts |
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| 14:06.44 | sylvanaar | theres a thread where people have posted thiers |
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| 14:08.02 | harldephin | ~seen Tale |
| 14:08.04 | purl | tale <n=dalawren@fw01.cmbrmaks.akamai.com> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 232d 19h 17m 22s ago, saying: 'are you maybe actually using postman? (/postman or /pman)'. |
| 14:08.10 | harldephin | oh |
| 14:08.53 | sylvanaar | where do you guys think the built in styles come from? set your stuff up, then share your settings |
| 14:09.18 | kenlyric | druidbars and spark are fairly nice :) |
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| 14:18.39 | Funkeh` | hey |
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| 14:23.44 | kenlyric | shhh, sleepy time |
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| 15:02.34 | fixt | http://surl.se/picture/20079/100678.jpg what font is that? And also: http://i110.photobucket.com/albums/n109/nightfallii/WoWScrnShot_090507_014630.jpg http://i110.photobucket.com/albums/n109/nightfallii/WoWScrnShot_082607_005553.jpg how is that gradient/border on omen/chatwindows done ? |
| 15:02.45 | fixt | especially interested in replicating that gradient/faded border style |
| 15:04.21 | Seerah | not sure on the font... lemme see the other ss's |
| 15:04.55 | Seerah | eePanels |
| 15:05.04 | Seerah | one panel for each thin line |
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| 15:12.10 | Industrial | btw zomg hai Seerah |
| 15:12.21 | Seerah | Indy!!! |
| 15:12.22 | Hjalte | Is it Pitbull_AltAura that is making the right unitframe look so weird, or is it a general Pitbull fault? I remember having it before, when using Pitbull_Aura www.hjalte.com/WoWScrnShot_091307_171016.jpg |
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| 15:13.06 | Seerah | make sure that all auras and icons have a spot they are anchored to |
| 15:13.29 | Lukian | Hjalte, I was getting debuff highlighting 'stuck' today too |
| 15:13.41 | Lukian | it looks a bit like that |
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| 15:13.53 | fixt | is it possible in pitbull to change the border of debuff/buff icons on a frame ? |
| 15:14.02 | Lukian | more like an aura effect though |
| 15:14.47 | Seerah | fixt: the only thing you can change with regards to that is if you want them highlighted by type or not |
| 15:14.56 | fixt | ah sadface |
| 15:14.59 | Seerah | unless my brain missed something in the config |
| 15:15.02 | fixt | id love to make them look a bit cleaner |
| 15:15.12 | fixt | especially since i want to scale up debuffs to see scorchtimer etc |
| 15:15.44 | cncfanatics | yo all |
| 15:16.01 | Seerah | fixt: I think you can give them that Dream layout look... |
| 15:16.11 | Seerah | hola, cnc |
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| 15:31.38 | cncfanatics | can anyone create a jira project for FB2 ? seems I can't do that myself |
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| 15:43.03 | nevcairiel | you have to ask Kaelten |
| 15:45.02 | fixt | Ok this is pissing me off to no end: /script if ChatFrame1:IsVisible() then ChatFrame1:Hide(); ChatFrame2:Show(); elseif ChatFrame2:IsVisible() then ChatFrame2:Hide(); ChatFrame3:Show(); else ChatFrame3:Hide(); ChatFrame1:Show(); end; |
| 15:45.07 | fixt | works fine, cycles through chatwindows |
| 15:45.19 | fixt | problem is though that for some friggin reason just by itself it jumps back to chatwindow 1 |
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| 15:45.38 | Shirik|Ecole | You... might think about using IsShown instead of IsVisible |
| 15:45.46 | fixt | Oh =D |
| 15:45.47 | Shirik|Ecole | in some rare cases they may not be the same |
| 15:46.03 | Shirik|Ecole | that may be the cause of your problem |
| 15:46.07 | Adirelle|Work | Antiarc: ping ? |
| 15:46.47 | Adirelle|Work | ~seen Antiarc |
| 15:46.49 | purl | antiarc is currently on #wowi-lounge #wowace. Has said a total of 44 messages. Is idling for 9h 28s, last said: 'See, the benchmarker I wrote says so'. |
| 15:47.33 | fixt | Thx Shirik|Ecole i tried that now and also expanded it a bit |
| 15:47.38 | fixt | havent had any random skips yet |
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| 15:47.42 | fixt | oops there i just had one |
| 15:47.43 | fixt | goddamnit |
| 15:47.45 | Shirik|Ecole | =( |
| 15:47.55 | fixt | seems to be everytime some text is added to chatframe1 |
| 15:47.57 | fixt | like some autofocus crap |
| 15:48.12 | fixt | is that some prat feature or something ? |
| 15:48.28 | Shirik|Ecole | I wonder if there's an extra action you need to be doing |
| 15:48.32 | Shirik|Ecole | i.e., setting the active chat frame |
| 15:48.37 | Shirik|Ecole | not just hiding or showing |
| 15:48.43 | fixt | ye ive been wondering about that aswell |
| 15:48.55 | Shirik|Ecole | purl, framexml |
| 15:48.56 | purl | get the official Blizzard Interface AddOn Kit here: http://www.blizzard.com/support/wow/?id=aww01671p or view it online at http://wdn.wowinterface.com/ |
| 15:50.19 | Nickenyfiken | purl, cupcake |
| 15:50.29 | Nickenyfiken | GIVE! |
| 15:52.08 | fixt | SetChatWindowShown(index,shown) |
| 15:52.09 | fixt | probably better |
| 15:52.47 | Shirik|Ecole | hmmm |
| 15:52.52 | Shirik|Ecole | that might work |
| 15:52.56 | Shirik|Ecole | I was going to do it a manual way |
| 15:53.07 | Shirik|Ecole | I'm thinking you also need to do SELECTED_DOCK_FRAME = ChatFrame1; |
| 15:53.07 | Shirik|Ecole | etc |
| 15:53.18 | Shirik|Ecole | But SetChatWindowShown sounds good |
| 15:55.34 | fixt | doesnt seem to work fine |
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| 15:55.39 | fixt | or im using it wrong |
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| 15:55.47 | Fisker- | i had a great deal of lulz today |
| 15:56.24 | fixt | /script if ChatFrame1:IsShown() then SetChatWindowShown(2,true); elseif ChatFrame2:IsShown() then SetChatWindowShown(3,true); else SetChatWindowShown(1,true); end |
| 15:56.29 | fixt | or is it not true that is the second param oO |
| 15:58.01 | cncfanatics | homework time, booo |
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| 16:01.05 | fixt | actually Shirik|Ecole i cant find any samples using it either |
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| 16:08.31 | Lysithea | hmm, any addon out there that lists the items you got equipped/in inv/in bank etc to a .txt or .lua or whatever? |
| 16:09.27 | Silviu- | hmm strange DewDrop bug, not sure why it spawns my screen :) http://img210.imageshack.us/my.php?image=wowscrnshot091307190543qw7.jpg |
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| 16:16.11 | fixt | hmm SetChatWindowShown etc only seems to react after a reloaduI |
| 16:16.12 | fixt | that sucks ass |
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| 16:26.21 | FrostByghte | anyone noticing a small hitch or bit of lag after recent updates? I just updated everything using wowace today and now I notice a small bit of stopping or jerkiness. I haven't been able to determine what the cause is, but everytime it happens Ace2 memory usage bumps up |
| 16:26.32 | FrostByghte | using wowaceupdater that is |
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| 16:27.47 | Kemayo | Lysithea: I know of various addons that would store that data in a .lua in your savedvariables directory, but I don't know whether any of them actually format it for presentation. They probably just save the itemids. |
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| 16:28.17 | Kemayo | FrostByghte: I updated last night, and can't claim to have noticed such a thing. |
| 16:29.11 | alcohol | how do you guys get that gradient chat ? |
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| 16:29.33 | Fisker- | ~seen Punkie` |
| 16:29.35 | purl | punkie` is currently on #wowi-lounge (9h 31m 7s) #wowace (9h 31m 7s), last said: 'you can get a DVI -> VGA convertor anyway'. |
| 16:30.03 | FrostByghte | Kemayo, any idea how I could go about troubleshooting this? I tried disabling each addon and I don't notice anything until I get to roughly 50mib usage then I start to notice the issue |
| 16:30.07 | Lysithea | Kemayo hm, ah well, I'll just put down some effort and type it instead :> |
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| 16:30.28 | FrostByghte | each time the game will slightly pause and Ace2 memory usage will bump up slightly...everytime there is a pause this occurs |
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| 16:31.19 | Kemayo | FrostByghte: Try disabling addons one at a time until it stops happening. (I'd start with the recently updated addons...) |
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| 16:32.41 | FrostByghte | I'll restore from my backup and see what happens |
| 16:32.42 | Kemayo | FrostByghte: Alternately, try enabling CPU profiling in PerformanceFu and see whether anything stands out there. |
| 16:32.46 | Hjalte | Kemayo, any chance of having better Lightheaded NPC support added to questsfu? With this i mean being able to click the location and get an arrow with cartographer, like in the Lightheaded pull-out window in the Blizz quest log :) |
| 16:32.50 | FrostByghte | oh ya, good idea |
| 16:33.24 | clad|away | he could just detach the LH window and show it when he wants and it'd be fully functional. |
| 16:33.25 | clad|away | *shrug* |
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| 16:36.57 | Kemayo | clad|away: Yeah, I could. I just haven't bothered to mess with my code since you made that possible. |
| 16:37.38 | clad|away | hehe |
| 16:37.45 | clad|away | i'd suggest waiting a week or so |
| 16:37.57 | clad|away | i need to figure out a better way to have it work with non-blizzard quest logs. |
| 16:38.00 | clad|away | and i'm not sure what to do |
| 16:38.03 | clad|away | (open to suggestion) |
| 16:38.12 | cncfanatics | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:38.15 | nevcairiel | send them to doublewide imho |
| 16:38.26 | Srosh | !c eu kazzak flinkmeister |
| 16:38.29 | ThraeBot | Srosh: Flinkmeister, Level 70 Draenei Shaman (0/5/56). 7939 HP; 10498 Mana; 243 mana regen; 125 mp5; 9761 Armour; 4.36% melee crit; 30 spell crit; 146 +spell dmg; 1850 +heal; 4.36% dodge; 5.00% block; 26 resilience; 10 shadow resist (+10);[[ TBR: 1188 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/23usal ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/2jdfnm ][ Updated: Thu Sep 13 12:51:12 2007 EST ]] |
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| 16:39.58 | Srosh | Thrae, ThraeBot owns. Nice work. Could you make it display guild too? |
| 16:40.29 | Xinhuan | [9/14 00:28:17] <Lysithea> Kemayo hm, ah well, I'll just put down some effort and type it instead :> |
| 16:41.10 | Xinhuan | You can try the addon called BankItems :) |
| 16:41.10 | Xinhuan | has an export text option |
| 16:41.10 | Lysithea | Ill look it up |
| 16:41.10 | Xinhuan | that allows you to cut and paste |
| 16:41.11 | Xinhuan | you'll only find it on ui.worldofwar.net though |
| 16:41.11 | Xinhuan | because thats the only place i've uploaded it to |
| 16:41.40 | alcohol | what is most commonly used to replace the wow ui acion buttons ? bongos ? |
| 16:41.50 | Xinhuan | Lysithea: http://ui.worldofwar.net/ui.php?id=1699 |
| 16:42.04 | Kemayo | alcohol: Bartender3 is popular as well. |
| 16:42.38 | Lysithea | installing~ |
| 16:42.50 | cncfanatics | alcohol, BT3 I think is the most popular |
| 16:42.57 | cncfanatics | I support FB2 though (ofc I do :p I made it) |
| 16:43.13 | alcohol | fb2? |
| 16:43.18 | cncfanatics | flexbar2 |
| 16:43.45 | FrostByghte | is there an addon that helps to enable/disable addons and reloadui quickly without logging out? |
| 16:43.59 | Aeyan | ACP |
| 16:44.05 | cncfanatics | ACP indeed |
| 16:44.33 | FrostByghte | woo thank you |
| 16:44.47 | Hjalte | FrostByghte, /ace2 can also disable and enable ace addons :) |
| 16:44.56 | FrostByghte | I knew that not :) |
| 16:45.23 | alcohol | and for the chatwindow(s) ? |
| 16:45.35 | FrostByghte | whatever is going on here, it didn't happen recently...my backup addon directory does the same thing, I guess I've just started to notice the issue |
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| 16:45.59 | fixt | anyone elses recount completely broken ? |
| 16:48.17 | alcohol | hey, http://files.wowace.com/ was also available without externals right ? |
| 16:48.26 | nevcairiel | yes |
| 16:48.32 | alcohol | how ? |
| 16:48.34 | nevcairiel | but not from an index page |
| 16:48.38 | alcohol | oh |
| 16:48.59 | nevcairiel | every addon has a no-ext subdirectory |
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| 16:49.03 | nevcairiel | http://files.wowace.com/Bartender3/no-ext/ |
| 16:49.05 | nevcairiel | for example |
| 16:49.17 | Lysithea | Kemayo just what I was looking for |
| 16:49.19 | Lysithea | thanks |
| 16:49.36 | Kemayo | I'd thank Xinhuan, not me. :D |
| 16:49.56 | Lysithea | oh yeh well, thanks both of you! |
| 16:50.32 | ZealotOnAStick | Kemayo, what are chances of getting Skyguard camp (in Terrokar) <-> Skyguard/Ogri'la flight timer support added to ToFu? |
| 16:50.33 | Lysithea | Xinhuan I'm silly and forgetful ^^ |
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| 16:51.40 | Xinhuan | sure, no problem :) |
| 16:51.42 | Kemayo | ZealotOnAStick: It will become much more likely when one of my characters actually reaches that point. Hell, one of these days I might roll a Druid and finally fix the similar thing with the Moonglade flight points... |
| 16:51.53 | Xinhuan | just make sure to delete other addons that might be doing the same thing (bank, inv, mail recording) |
| 16:51.55 | Fisker- | nice |
| 16:52.08 | Fisker- | Valve is making an achievement system for their new steam update |
| 16:52.14 | CIA-22 | 03zhinjio * r48832 10SuicideKingsGeo/: |
| 16:52.14 | CIA-22 | SuicideKingsGeo : |
| 16:52.14 | CIA-22 | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:52.22 | Xinhuan | i don't think its wrong for me to advertise my addon right? ^^ |
| 16:53.20 | Lysithea | Im pretty much default ui so no worries :) |
| 16:53.34 | CIA-22 | 03zhinjio * r48833 10SuicideKingsGeo/ (5 files): |
| 16:53.34 | CIA-22 | SuicideKingsGeo : |
| 16:53.34 | CIA-22 | <PROTECTED> |
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| 16:54.59 | ASD | hi all |
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| 16:57.35 | rubik | hmm.. (from EJ "what's that addon" thread) http://image.bayimg.com/nagomaabo.jpg <-- what's showing the AP/crit%/weapon speed on top of the UF? |
| 16:57.54 | rubik | not done with pitbull, right? |
| 16:58.30 | Chompers | it might be |
| 16:58.52 | CIA-22 | 03Tristan * r48834 10Enhancer/ (4 files in 2 dirs): |
| 16:58.52 | CIA-22 | Enhancer: |
| 16:58.52 | CIA-22 | - Added a check for trailing semi-colon when importing from Crazy Shaman's DPS Calculator |
| 16:58.57 | rubik | hmm.. with just a 2-line health tag or something, i guess? |
| 17:00.31 | alcohol | what's a nice alternative for smartbuff ? |
| 17:00.39 | fumbletweed | hmm, quick question from me - i have played around with setting up symmetrical quartz castbars for player/target |
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| 17:01.01 | fumbletweed | and from playing around, it seems that my x-res is 1630, but ive set 1680 |
| 17:01.47 | fumbletweed | or at least, its accounting for that |
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| 17:09.26 | alcohol | should I alter UI scale if I set up a fresh new UI layout ? |
| 17:09.36 | alcohol | what's commonly done ? |
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| 17:10.17 | Elkano | I use 0.64 or so (minimum ^^) |
| 17:10.30 | Elkano | but I only play at 1024x768 |
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| 17:11.50 | alcohol | how can I see what libs might be missing ? |
| 17:12.20 | Elkano | start and it will error? ;) |
| 17:13.11 | alcohol | can I put all commonly used libs and such in a folder called !Libs ? |
| 17:13.48 | alcohol | hrm, they don't seem to load then :< |
| 17:13.52 | Elkano | I wouldn't do so |
| 17:14.01 | alcohol | why ? |
| 17:14.10 | FrostByghte | Kemayo: turns out the issue is caused by performancefu |
| 17:14.11 | Xinhuan | because WoW's addon system isn't designed that way |
| 17:14.21 | alcohol | what do you mean ? |
| 17:14.29 | Xinhuan | i mean exactly that |
| 17:14.38 | FrostByghte | when it is disabled the spikes go away...so something with the usage monitoring I guess |
| 17:14.42 | Elkano | first of all, as you see, it doesn't work directly and 2nd you should only load the libs you use |
| 17:14.44 | alcohol | well 'that' makes no sense to me |
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| 17:14.58 | Xinhuan | it makes no sense to us either, but its the only way to make it work |
| 17:15.08 | Xinhuan | and that's how it is done |
| 17:15.08 | ZealotOnAStick | WoW doesn't know about a file unless it's told specifically where to look for it. If you move things that addons expect to be somewhere, and they're not, it won't find them where it doesn't expect them to be. |
| 17:15.18 | alcohol | I just hate it that I have some libs over 30 times |
| 17:15.20 | Xinhuan | each library is treated as an "addon" by WoW |
| 17:15.37 | Elkano | Xinhuan, only if you install them standalone |
| 17:15.39 | ZealotOnAStick | alcohol: then use WAU with auto-dependency. |
| 17:15.40 | alcohol | cause different addons all have them in their libs folder |
| 17:15.49 | alcohol | I cannot use wau |
| 17:15.53 | alcohol | I aint on winblows |
| 17:15.54 | NightHawkTheSane | alcohol: it really doesn't matter. just forget about it |
| 17:16.00 | alcohol | it does to me |
| 17:16.04 | NightHawkTheSane | it doesn't impact your in-game performance at all |
| 17:16.07 | alcohol | takes up excessive space |
| 17:16.10 | Xinhuan | yeah but if you remove them, it won't work because the addons expect them to be there |
| 17:16.20 | ZealotOnAStick | the HD space consumed is trivial. |
| 17:16.20 | alcohol | why can't they be in a central folder ? |
| 17:16.20 | NightHawkTheSane | dude. it's like a handful of MB. if that's "too much space" than you should enter the 1990's |
| 17:16.29 | Xinhuan | alcohol - because it simply can't |
| 17:16.42 | alcohol | then why can one download addons without the libs ? |
| 17:16.47 | ZealotOnAStick | and the only in-game performance hit you get is during initial load and reloaduis, as WoW ditches all the duplicate copies. |
| 17:16.58 | Xinhuan | because that's how disembedded addons work |
| 17:17.04 | alcohol | ? |
| 17:17.10 | ZealotOnAStick | For people who run standalone libs. |
| 17:17.13 | Xinhuan | you either have the libraries embedded in the addon's folder itself |
| 17:17.18 | alcohol | or ? |
| 17:17.20 | Xinhuan | or you run the libraries standalone |
| 17:17.20 | alcohol | that is my question |
| 17:17.22 | alcohol | or what ? |
| 17:17.23 | alcohol | how ? |
| 17:17.34 | ZealotOnAStick | You either get embeds, or you get an added 50 folders or so for all the individual libs. |
| 17:17.35 | Xinhuan | you do that by downloading each library as an addon |
| 17:17.39 | NightHawkTheSane | you would download each library individually |
| 17:17.40 | Xinhuan | and using it |
| 17:17.43 | alcohol | I see |
| 17:17.45 | Xinhuan | like any other addon |
| 17:17.48 | ZealotOnAStick | Thus declareth Blizzard, deal or go whine about something elsewhere. |
| 17:17.51 | alcohol | and they need to be in the root of addons |
| 17:17.53 | Xinhuan | then you can delete the subfolders |
| 17:17.54 | alcohol | ? |
| 17:17.55 | NightHawkTheSane | yes |
| 17:17.58 | NightHawkTheSane | like every other addon |
| 17:18.03 | alcohol | ok, now it makes more sense to me |
| 17:18.23 | Xinhuan | but keep in mind that it will mean you will see about 20 more addons in your addon list |
| 17:18.26 | alcohol | I wasn't sure if the addons folder would be searched up to a certain depth |
| 17:18.30 | Xinhuan | because each library is treated as an addon |
| 17:18.47 | alcohol | yea, I understand now |
| 17:18.48 | NightHawkTheSane | wow parses the addon's folder completely, everything, at every depth, i believe |
| 17:18.49 | Xinhuan | wow only searches Interface/AddOns/ |
| 17:18.51 | Xinhuan | and nowhere else |
| 17:18.58 | Xinhuan | one level |
| 17:19.01 | alcohol | so when each addon has it in the libs folder, in the end it's only loaded once ? |
| 17:19.04 | NightHawkTheSane | but it can only access what .toc files tell it to. |
| 17:19.16 | Xinhuan | it is the addons themselves that tell wow to load the libs from the addon's libs/ subfolder |
| 17:19.23 | NightHawkTheSane | alcohol: yes |
| 17:19.32 | Xinhuan | but if they don't exist, the addon will only work if the library is already loaded as a addon somewhere else |
| 17:19.39 | NightHawkTheSane | each individual library will only have a single copy in memeory |
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| 17:20.59 | Xinhuan | i'll give you an example.. lets say you have an addon FuBar. WoW finds the addon in Interface/AddOns/FuBar, and will load all the files it is told to do so in Interface/AddOns/FuBar/FuBar.toc |
| 17:21.16 | Xinhuan | the list of files in the .toc usually contains all the files in the subfolders of FuBar |
| 17:21.28 | alcohol | I see |
| 17:21.28 | Xinhuan | such as Interface/AddOns/FuBar/libs/AceLibrary/.. etc etc |
| 17:21.36 | alcohol | and it only searches /addons/ 1 level deep |
| 17:21.50 | Xinhuan | no, the TOC must specify the exact path |
| 17:21.54 | alcohol | so /addons/!libs/ace2/ace2.toc would not be found ? |
| 17:21.58 | Xinhuan | wow ONLY checks the toc file |
| 17:22.02 | Xinhuan | correct |
| 17:22.23 | Xinhuan | the TOC file must be named the same as the folder name itself |
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| 17:22.30 | alcohol | yea ok |
| 17:22.36 | alcohol | but !libs would make it 2 levels deep |
| 17:22.36 | Xinhuan | so an addon called !libs |
| 17:22.41 | Xinhuan | must have a !libs.toc |
| 17:22.42 | alcohol | so it simply would never find it, right ? |
| 17:22.47 | Xinhuan | correct |
| 17:22.49 | alcohol | ok |
| 17:22.50 | alcohol | =) |
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| 17:23.18 | Xinhuan | basically, wow just asks the operating system for a list of folders in the AddOns folder |
| 17:23.26 | Xinhuan | and for each of these, it looks for the .toc file |
| 17:23.30 | Xinhuan | of that addon |
| 17:23.40 | Xinhuan | if it exists, good, if it doesn't, it ignores it. |
| 17:24.12 | the-golem | thats really bollocks for frameworked addons |
| 17:24.24 | Xinhuan | depending on your operating system and your file system, it may return this list of folders in Date order, or Name order, or some other order (natural disk order) |
| 17:24.33 | Xinhuan | and this will directly determine the loading order of your addons |
| 17:24.56 | Xinhuan | FAT32 returns folders in natural disk order |
| 17:25.07 | Xinhuan | NTFS returns in Name order i think |
| 17:25.29 | NightHawkTheSane | wow's addon system was never really designed for frameworks and libraries. |
| 17:25.50 | NightHawkTheSane | all the stuff that's in place to support them now has more or less been requested and hacked on after the fact. |
| 17:26.07 | Xinhuan | blizzard never expected their UI to become so customizable i bet |
| 17:26.26 | NightHawkTheSane | eh, no, I think they knew it would |
| 17:26.36 | NightHawkTheSane | you can't not predict that when they expose so much via an API |
| 17:26.45 | Xinhuan | i dont think they predicted entire frameworks and libraries to come out |
| 17:26.50 | NightHawkTheSane | agreed |
| 17:27.05 | Xinhuan | so it was never designed to support libraries |
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| 17:27.12 | kadrahil | sooooo tired |
| 17:27.14 | Xinhuan | so we have to make do with the "addon system" that they already have |
| 17:27.15 | NightHawkTheSane | plus, even if they did, I imagine they kept the whole thing simple to get a release out faster |
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| 17:27.59 | NightHawkTheSane | Adding support for frameworks/libraries that may not have ever been developed would be a waste of time |
| 17:28.16 | Xinhuan | adding such support for WotLK would be a good idea |
| 17:28.58 | charon | ~seen cryect |
| 17:29.03 | purl | cryect <n=fefsd@pool-72-95-251-159.pitbpa.east.verizon.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 12d 16h 57m 5s ago, saying: 'charon: it can't tell the difference between mobs of the same name (you don't get any unit id for them or anything) so he couldn't do that'. |
| 17:29.03 | Fisker- | begone Punkie` |
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| 17:29.17 | charon | any other recount experts around? |
| 17:29.29 | NightHawkTheSane | Xinhuan: maybe, but i wouldn't hold your breath. :P |
| 17:29.48 | alcohol | weird |
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| 17:30.04 | alcohol | cartographer cannot find an instance dewdrop, even though it's in its libs folder |
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| 17:30.21 | CIA-22 | 03yssaril * r48835 10YssGuildShop/YGS_GUI.lua: |
| 17:30.21 | CIA-22 | YssGuildShop: |
| 17:30.21 | CIA-22 | - fixed several errors relating to the new database structure |
| 17:30.21 | CIA-22 | - fixed some errors when running the addon when not in a guild |
| 17:30.35 | Xinhuan | you need to download each library as a standalone addon from files.wowace.com |
| 17:30.47 | alcohol | oh nevermind |
| 17:30.55 | alcohol | I had to completely exit out and restart wow |
| 17:30.55 | Xinhuan | and install them as an addon - not in some !libs folder |
| 17:30.57 | alcohol | fixed it |
| 17:31.58 | yssaril | just figured out the coolest thing if you have an "and" statement and the first statement is false it doesn't even try to evaluate the second one :) |
| 17:32.15 | Xinhuan | yssaril: welcome to short circuit evaluation :) |
| 17:32.23 | NightHawkTheSane | hehe |
| 17:32.36 | NightHawkTheSane | <3 short circuit evaluation. |
| 17:32.46 | Xinhuan | just about every programming language supports it |
| 17:32.48 | Xinhuan | i think |
| 17:32.51 | NightHawkTheSane | yeah |
| 17:32.52 | Xinhuan | can't think of one that doesn't |
| 17:32.59 | NightHawkTheSane | vb didn't used to |
| 17:33.10 | yssaril | me too now :) removed like 10 lines of code that where compleatly redundant in my case |
| 17:33.19 | NightHawkTheSane | they had to -add- short circuit operators ("AndAlso", "OrElse") to do short circuiting |
| 17:33.46 | NightHawkTheSane | yssaril: the same applies to "OR" as well, as soon as it hits a true value, it stops evaluating |
| 17:33.48 | Xinhuan | yssaril: "or" also does short circuit evaluation |
| 17:34.10 | Xinhuan | so what you do on (A or B or C or D or E) is to put the most likely condition in A |
| 17:34.16 | Xinhuan | and the least likely condition to be true in E |
| 17:34.22 | Xinhuan | so that the code runs faster |
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| 17:34.40 | yssaril | sweet |
| 17:34.44 | Xinhuan | basically many addons can optimize their OnEvent() this way a lot faster |
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| 17:34.53 | NightHawkTheSane | Or you can evaluate things that might throw null errors without actually hitting thenull error. :P |
| 17:34.54 | Xinhuan | by putting if (event == "some really common event") on top |
| 17:35.15 | Xinhuan | elseif (event == "some event that only runs once per login") at the very bottom |
| 17:35.26 | yssaril | NightHawkTheSane: that was exacly what cause me the problem |
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| 17:35.44 | NightHawkTheSane | yssaril: yeah, that's arguably the most common utilization of short circuiting |
| 17:36.29 | Xinhuan | open up any addon in your folders, almost every addon will have "if (a and a.xyz) then..." type of construct |
| 17:37.07 | charon | Xinhuan: wouldn't putting everything in a table that goes {["someevent"] = function ... end, ["someotherevent"] = function ... end} be faster? |
| 17:37.20 | charon | as in, hash lookups are O(1), going through an if...elseif chain isn't |
| 17:37.21 | Xinhuan | probably charon. |
| 17:37.26 | Xinhuan | but heaps of old addons dont do that |
| 17:37.50 | Xinhuan | or if your addon only uses a single event, then its slower |
| 17:37.53 | Tuller | either way, if statements are fast :P |
| 17:38.12 | Xinhuan | the thing about using IF statements is that |
| 17:38.15 | Tuller | so its not that big of a concern |
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| 17:38.21 | Xinhuan | you can code in fallthrough events |
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| 17:38.27 | Xinhuan | that you can't do with other methods |
| 17:38.47 | Xinhuan | for example, you want to do A() and B() on event X, but only do B() on event Y |
| 17:39.06 | Xinhuan | so you can just let event X fallthrough to event Y |
| 17:39.16 | Xinhuan | by not using a return statement |
| 17:39.28 | Xinhuan | that kind of stuff |
| 17:39.49 | sylvanaar | who said !libs - they must be shot |
| 17:40.17 | Xinhuan | i'm guesing its the same guy that made the post on the forums :) |
| 17:40.29 | alcohol | no forum posts from me :< |
| 17:45.10 | Xinhuan | Do function closures ever get garbage collected? |
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| 17:46.55 | ckknight | hey all |
| 17:47.02 | Xinhuan | hi ck |
| 17:47.07 | Xinhuan | Do function closures ever get garbage collected? |
| 17:47.12 | Chompers | morning ckk |
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| 17:48.43 | buu | Can wow mods respond to arbitrary text in the chat log? |
| 17:48.47 | buu | Surely they can. |
| 17:48.58 | Xinhuan | yes they can |
| 17:49.02 | Pkekyo | g'mornin all |
| 17:49.37 | Xinhuan | examples are CraftList, EnchantList, GemList, etc |
| 17:50.10 | ckknight | how's everyone doing? |
| 17:50.18 | ckknight | Xinhuan: yea, they get GC'd if nothing references them |
| 17:50.43 | cncfanatics | yo ckk |
| 17:51.33 | NightHawkTheSane | Out of curiosity, does anyone here have experience with VB.NET and XML/XSD ? Mainly dealing with the "dateTime" data type in XML and translating that to/from .NET's DateTime type |
| 17:52.17 | Mudkips | "Keep in mind that LCD displays running anything but their native resolution will provide lowered image quality due to the fact that the display has to be scaled." |
| 17:52.22 | Mudkips | Is that true for WoW? |
| 17:52.25 | ckknight | yes |
| 17:52.44 | Xinhuan | yes |
| 17:52.50 | buu | Xinhuan: Oh, of course =] |
| 17:52.55 | RaydenUni | Mudkips do you run wow on an LCD? |
| 17:53.00 | Mudkips | yes |
| 17:53.01 | Mudkips | 2)" |
| 17:53.03 | Mudkips | asdf |
| 17:53.04 | RaydenUni | i don't see that statement specifying an application |
| 17:53.08 | Mudkips | 20" WS |
| 17:53.15 | RaydenUni | it just says that LCDs running at non native resolution provide lower quality |
| 17:53.23 | RaydenUni | it makes it fuzzy because its interpolating |
| 17:53.32 | RaydenUni | you no longer have 1 graphical pixel per 1 physical pixel |
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| 17:53.41 | RaydenUni | instead of you have 2 graphical pixels per 3 phsyical pixels |
| 17:53.45 | RaydenUni | how do you draw that? |
| 17:53.49 | Mudkips | ugh |
| 17:53.52 | NightHawkTheSane | non-euclidean math! |
| 17:54.00 | Mudkips | How am I supposed to play without all my eye candy :( |
| 17:54.08 | NightHawkTheSane | get a bigger monitor? |
| 17:54.09 | Mudkips | at 1680x1050 |
| 17:54.22 | Stan__ | mornin ckknight |
| 17:54.27 | RaydenUni | i'm pretty insistant at running at native |
| 17:54.33 | Mudkips | 1400x900 is my wow resolution |
| 17:54.40 | RaydenUni | i run wow at 1680x1050 even though i get sort of low resolution |
| 17:54.43 | NightHawkTheSane | yeah, running non-native resolutions on lcds is just silly |
| 17:54.48 | Mudkips | does it also apply to windowed mode WoW? |
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| 17:54.50 | Xinhuan | its silly not to run at native res |
| 17:54.56 | NightHawkTheSane | Mudkips: it applies to EVERYTHING |
| 17:54.56 | RaydenUni | Mudkips windows is strange |
| 17:55.20 | RaydenUni | if you run wow windowed at 1024x768 in your 1680x1050 monitor, wow will take up exactly 1024x768 pixels |
| 17:55.22 | RaydenUni | unless you scale it |
| 17:55.26 | NightHawkTheSane | regardless of os/application, LCDS will have lower image quality when displaying a non-native res |
| 17:55.26 | RaydenUni | so it shouldn't affect it |
| 17:55.33 | Xinhuan | it doesn't actually apply to windowed wow - because windowed wow runs at whatever resolution the window size is on |
| 17:55.38 | Xinhuan | and its your desktop resolution that matters |
| 17:55.40 | RaydenUni | Mudkips right now, change your desktop resolution to 1024x768 and see what it looks like |
| 17:56.28 | NightHawkTheSane | Xinhuan: well, it applies to wow in the indirect sense that it's on screen, being displayed with a particular screen resolution. It's just that in that case, wow isn't the one determining the res. |
| 17:56.30 | RaydenUni | http://www.answers.com/topic/native-resolution-800x600-on-1024x768-jpg |
| 17:56.37 | Xinhuan | ya |
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| 17:56.41 | RaydenUni | window should have no interpolation |
| 17:56.49 | RaydenUni | unless you scale it |
| 17:56.53 | RaydenUni | ... but i don't know what wow does |
| 17:56.58 | RaydenUni | i think wow would just change your resolution |
| 17:57.06 | Xinhuan | not really |
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| 17:57.56 | Xinhuan | wow draws and runs the game at 1024x768 no matter what your wow resolution is, then scales the graphics to whatever size you set the resolution at |
| 17:57.59 | RaydenUni | http://ducker.org/~cuth/temp/bb_macro.jpg |
| 17:58.15 | Xinhuan | this means that the functions that get the coordinates of your mouse cursor, GetLeft(), GetRIght(), etc |
| 17:58.26 | Xinhuan | all give a value between 0-1024 for the width |
| 17:58.37 | Xinhuan | and 0-768 for the height or something |
| 17:59.10 | Xinhuan | you have to then divide by the GetScreenWidth() and GetScreenHeight() values |
| 17:59.14 | Xinhuan | to get the actual pixels |
| 17:59.44 | RaydenUni | http://www.microsoft.com/typography/faq/lines.gif <-- view this at native, and then at non native |
| 17:59.48 | RaydenUni | you'll see a major difference |
| 18:00.08 | RaydenUni | http://www.buyplusdirect.com/site/resolution.html <-- also some good info |
| 18:02.27 | ckknight | bah, brb |
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| 18:02.58 | RaydenUni | ok |
| 18:02.59 | RaydenUni | time to go |
| 18:03.04 | RaydenUni | good luck with resolutions Mudkips |
| 18:03.09 | ckknight | have fun |
| 18:04.23 | Nickenyfiken | Xinhuan: "wow draws and runs the game at 1024x768 no matter what your wow resolution is". You mean the UI right? |
| 18:04.46 | Xinhuan | i think so |
| 18:06.28 | CIA-22 | 03sylvanaar * r48836 10Prat/Prat_Modules/modules/PlayerNames.lua: Prat: Bug introduced in 48604. Check level > 0. |
| 18:06.56 | CIA-22 | 03cncfanatics * r48837 10FlexBar2/ (Attributes/Attributes.lua Core.lua Layout/Layout.lua): FlexBar2: Fixed a bug that caused states to change unexpectedly when state button was disabled |
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| 18:11.06 | Xinhuan | i remember that you have to divide your values by UiScale to get the actual pixels |
| 18:11.23 | Xinhuan | then wow resizes that to the window size |
| 18:12.41 | Xinhuan | this means that suppose you set an object to be 10 pixels below another object, it will be 10 pixels at Uiscale = 1 |
| 18:12.49 | Xinhuan | but 9 pixels at uiscale = 0.9 |
| 18:13.03 | Xinhuan | but ingame, the return values will still be 10 |
| 18:13.34 | Xinhuan | the GetRight(), GetTop(), GetBottom() functions returns the values ignoring uiscale |
| 18:14.39 | Xinhuan | so if you were to write a function that prevents a window from being moved closer than 20 real pixels from the edge of the screen, you would have to divide by uiscale |
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| 18:15.02 | Xinhuan | so that its 20 real pixels, rather than 20 scaled pixels |
| 18:17.30 | Mudkips | ok |
| 18:17.32 | Mudkips | sorry about that |
| 18:17.36 | Mudkips | I had to actually "work" |
| 18:17.41 | Mudkips | >_> |
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| 18:41.41 | binder | This may sound funny, is there an addon that tracks how long each addon is taking to load? |
| 18:42.30 | cncfanatics | yea there is |
| 18:42.33 | cncfanatics | has been since ages |
| 18:42.50 | binder | I swore there was, but then I thought I was nuts |
| 18:43.24 | binder | happen to know the name offhand? |
| 18:43.30 | binder | is it like loadtimes or something |
| 18:46.46 | cncfanatics | eh |
| 18:46.50 | cncfanatics | I did know it |
| 18:46.51 | cncfanatics | but forgot |
| 18:47.08 | binder | well I think there's that fixloadingtimes thing |
| 18:47.19 | binder | but I just want an addon that tells me how long each addon taks |
| 18:47.46 | ckknight | Warmup |
| 18:47.58 | binder | thanks |
| 18:50.22 | Wogroipl | rofl... spellsurge procs from cooking :D |
| 18:51.10 | ckknight | lol, fun |
| 18:52.25 | nevcairiel | spellsurge procs from mounting too |
| 18:53.29 | Xinhuan | i've seen spellsurge proc before just by gaining the onyxia stormwind buff when people turn it in |
| 18:53.32 | Industrial | http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=8258.new#new |
| 18:54.42 | Industrial | eh, eh? |
| 18:54.54 | Industrial | any thoughts on that? |
| 18:54.58 | Industrial | no wait, post instead. |
| 18:55.35 | Xinhuan | sounds like a bad idea, as it forces addon authors to keep their libs up to date manually for bugfixes |
| 18:56.03 | CIA-22 | 03Tristan * r48838 10Enhancer/ (5 files in 3 dirs): |
| 18:56.03 | CIA-22 | Enhancer: |
| 18:56.03 | CIA-22 | - Moved URLs out to a separate file as they can and have changed, as well there is an indication that at least one of them might change in a near future so having them there made sense |
| 18:56.10 | Xinhuan | which is against the "lower development time" philosophy |
| 18:57.19 | Industrial | Yes, but if it works it works, and you don't have to touch it anymore. |
| 18:58.40 | Xinhuan | oh there's pros alright, but there's cons as well |
| 18:58.46 | Xinhuan | and i think the cons outweighs the pros |
| 18:58.56 | Xinhuan | anyway, afk some 20 min |
| 19:01.30 | alcohol | whats the most commonly used chat mod ? |
| 19:02.12 | ckknight | alcohol: I use Prat, but there's plenty others |
| 19:02.23 | alcohol | hrm |
| 19:02.24 | alcohol | bte |
| 19:02.26 | alcohol | btw |
| 19:02.33 | alcohol | pitbull gave me errors |
| 19:02.36 | alcohol | with the spark thingy |
| 19:02.48 | Silviu- | i use SimpleChatmods |
| 19:06.28 | Industrial | I use idChat (wowinterface) |
| 19:06.59 | NightHawkTheSane | hmm |
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| 19:16.09 | alcohol | arf, I want a full files.wowace listing :< |
| 19:24.41 | ZealotOnAStick | I'd prefer to have an option for one too, but the (not very noticeable) sorting by any column heading capability is kinda of nice. |
| 19:25.15 | Xinhuan | ZealotOnAStick: you could already sort by any column header in the old 1-page-list-all format |
| 19:25.31 | Xinhuan | this new page format offers zero new functionality at all |
| 19:30.13 | NightHawkTheSane | sadly, that's actually true. >< |
| 19:30.46 | Xinhuan | well you can now sort by "author", but who would actually use that? |
| 19:31.09 | Xinhuan | sort by "category" is actually useful though, i suppose |
| 19:31.24 | Xinhuan | but seeing as half the addons are uncategorised, its not that useful |
| 19:32.34 | NightHawkTheSane | well, that's not the fault of the system, but of the developers |
| 19:32.44 | Xinhuan | so i saw a library called !AlarLib |
| 19:32.49 | Xinhuan | and i was thinking, what the hell is that |
| 19:33.00 | Xinhuan | "General library for Alar's modules. Internal use" is the description |
| 19:33.05 | harldephin | in lua, how can i check if AlphaDB["Bravo"]["Charlie"] actually exists? |
| 19:33.08 | Xinhuan | i'm like, you need a library for the Alar fight? |
| 19:33.09 | durcyn | some chump who doesn't comprehend optdep load-with |
| 19:33.18 | Xinhuan | until i saw the author is "Alar of Daggerspine" |
| 19:33.26 | Xinhuan | so i'm like rofl meh |
| 19:33.34 | yssaril | so its a lib for Internal use of one addon ? |
| 19:33.40 | Xinhuan | appears so? |
| 19:33.47 | ckknight | harldephin: AlphaDB and AlphaDB["Bravo"] and AlphaDB["Bravo"]["Charlie"] |
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| 19:34.19 | Xinhuan | i see an addon called AlarTTFrame |
| 19:34.25 | durcyn | 'bout time to implement a screening quiz for svn access imnsho |
| 19:34.26 | Xinhuan | so i assume its used for that |
| 19:34.38 | Xinhuan | and its the only addon by Alar |
| 19:34.45 | Xinhuan | (after sorting by author) |
| 19:34.56 | yssaril | cknight you fixed thw wrong AceComm bug :P |
| 19:35.31 | Xinhuan | [9/14 03:31:58] <@ckknight> harldephin: AlphaDB and AlphaDB["Bravo"] and AlphaDB["Bravo"]["Charlie"] |
| 19:35.40 | yssaril | wtb better serialization of tables in AceComm |
| 19:35.43 | Xinhuan | that would only work if AlphaDB["Bravo"]["Charlie"] isn't a boolean :) |
| 19:36.52 | yssaril | ckknight i figure rock is going live with wow 2.2? |
| 19:37.04 | ckknight | live? |
| 19:37.08 | ckknight | what do you mean by live? |
| 19:37.19 | yssaril | well out of beta :P |
| 19:37.25 | ckknight | Xinhuan: then you check AlphaDB and AlphaDB["Bravo"] and AlphaDB["Bravo"]["Charlie"] ~= nil |
| 19:37.31 | *** join/#wowace Raz^^ (i=alyx-@r4ay106.net.upc.cz) |
| 19:37.39 | ckknight | yssaril: it's out of beta once I finish Cartographer and FuBar |
| 19:37.44 | Xinhuan | yah, well i'm just pointing it out for harldephin |
| 19:38.43 | Industrial | Kaelten: wtb ##X-Category categorization |
| 19:38.47 | Industrial | :-) |
| 19:38.56 | yssaril | then what is the dependency on WoW 2.2 with this "Cartographer_Notes - use CaN instead of Cartographer-Notes as the comm prefix once WoW 2.2 hits." |
| 19:39.32 | Lukian | perhaps channel names can't be that long in 2.2? |
| 19:39.34 | Xinhuan | he's just changing the inter-addon communication prefix that identifies which addon is sending the addon message |
| 19:39.45 | CIA-22 | 03roartindon * r48839 10Assessment/Modules/Threat.lua: Assessment: Optimization of some threat tags |
| 19:39.48 | Xinhuan | a shorter prefix uses less bandwidth, that's about it |
| 19:39.55 | yssaril | yea but the only thing as far as i know that cares about it is rock |
| 19:39.56 | Lukian | aye, that too |
| 19:39.56 | Xinhuan | since prefix+message cannot be longer than 255 bytes |
| 19:40.09 | Kaelten | ? |
| 19:40.21 | Xinhuan | a shorter prefix means a longer allowable message |
| 19:41.02 | NightHawkTheSane | yssaril: i think it's tied to 2.2 only as a means of attempting to synchronize when the change occurs among as many users as possible, to minimize mixed versions trying to communicate |
| 19:41.04 | yssaril | quote from wiki "# "prefix" must be 3 bytes long - no more or less. " |
| 19:41.21 | Xinhuan | oh? |
| 19:41.25 | yssaril | NightHawkTheSane: that makes sense |
| 19:41.41 | Xinhuan | didn't know about the 3 bytes thing |
| 19:41.51 | clad|book | where are you reading this yssaril |
| 19:41.52 | clad|book | ? |
| 19:41.58 | NightHawkTheSane | 3 bytes? o_0 |
| 19:42.00 | yssaril | http://wowace.com/wiki/Rock |
| 19:42.01 | clad|book | http://www.wowwiki.com/API_SendAddonMessage disagrees with you |
| 19:42.02 | clad|book | entirely |
| 19:42.02 | Industrial | Kaelten: on files.wowace.com :> |
| 19:42.02 | *** join/#wowace Keias (i=HydraIRC@c-69-245-192-208.hsd1.in.comcast.net) |
| 19:42.07 | Xinhuan | i didn't think there's a 3 byte prefix rule? |
| 19:42.24 | a^i`SmaN | 3 |
| 19:42.25 | yssaril | Xinhuan: in rock there is i guess |
| 19:42.30 | clad|book | yssaril: so its an arbitrary rock limitation.. interesting |
| 19:42.34 | Fisker- | oh hey |
| 19:42.36 | Industrial | Kaelten: that'd be nice because atm you can't search it/the svn when you don't know what you are looking for. |
| 19:42.37 | Fisker- | you suck |
| 19:42.44 | Industrial | I do? |
| 19:42.46 | Kaelten | huh? |
| 19:42.59 | yssaril | clad|book: i guess |
| 19:43.03 | Xinhuan | i was thinking about this |
| 19:43.12 | clad|book | yssaril: yeah, cause i know wow doesn't have that limitation |
| 19:43.16 | Industrial | Kaelten: like, if I see an addon name I have no idea what kind of addon it is. What if I'm looking for an actionbar addon and want to compare them all? |
| 19:43.17 | NightHawkTheSane | well, not "i guess" it -is- an arbitrary limitation :P |
| 19:43.33 | Kaelten | have you looked at files.wowace.com lately? |
| 19:43.38 | yssaril | clad|book: yea but its good coding practice |
| 19:43.38 | Industrial | I'd have to pray they are listed in the wiki :P |
| 19:43.38 | Kaelten | it has the category |
| 19:43.46 | clad|book | yssaril: .. that's a matter of opinion |
| 19:43.52 | Industrial | oh |
| 19:43.58 | Xinhuan | SendAddonMessage("MYADDON", "my spam spam spam message", "WHISPER", "cladhaire"); <--- couldn't i write a addon that sends this 100 times a second to flood someone's bandwidth? |
| 19:44.00 | Industrial | hey I didn't notice that yet :D |
| 19:44.01 | clad|book | just like two digits years was a "good coding practice"? |
| 19:44.01 | Fisker- | yes Industrial |
| 19:44.05 | Industrial | Kaelten: you win! |
| 19:44.11 | Industrial | Fisker-: I approve. |
| 19:44.15 | Xinhuan | the target wouldn't even notice he is getting spammed |
| 19:44.16 | clad|book | its an arbitrary limitation someone thought was a good idea |
| 19:44.17 | Kaelten | put them there yesterday :P |
| 19:44.17 | nevcairiel | Xinhuan: what will disconnect you, not the other guy |
| 19:44.21 | yssaril | Xinhuan: nope you would get disconected after 50 maybe :P |
| 19:44.27 | Xinhuan | i don't think SendAddonMessage is throttled? |
| 19:44.34 | nevcairiel | not throttled |
| 19:44.34 | Fisker- | thanks Industrial |
| 19:44.41 | nevcairiel | but still gets disconnects on flood |
| 19:44.53 | clad|book | Kaelten: when do we get the non-paged option? |
| 19:44.56 | Xinhuan | ah |
| 19:45.00 | clad|book | yssaril: Why do you claim its "good coding practice? |
| 19:45.03 | Kaelten | today I think |
| 19:45.37 | Xinhuan | Kaelten: if its an option, would it use cookies to remember that option? |
| 19:45.39 | yssaril | clad|book: long prefix = more bandwith and less actual important stuff that can be send |
| 19:45.55 | clad|book | what if you need a longer prefix |
| 19:45.55 | Kaelten | I'll look into it |
| 19:45.59 | clad|book | that's not a bad thing, and doesn't make you a bad coder. |
| 19:46.04 | yssaril | clad|book: what for? |
| 19:46.43 | clad|book | my point is.. it is NOT inherently "bad coding practice" to have a prefix longer than three characters |
| 19:46.44 | yssaril | clad|book: isnt the prefix only supposed to ID the addon that is sendign it so that when you recive it you can fileter out everything else/ |
| 19:47.03 | clad|book | yssaril: yes, and length has absolutely 0 effect on teh comparison |
| 19:47.10 | clad|book | if i need four characters, why is that bad practice? |
| 19:47.13 | CIA-22 | 03kaybe * r48840 10Klappa/ (Klappa.lua KlappaButton.lua KlappaPopUp.lua): |
| 19:47.13 | CIA-22 | Klappa: |
| 19:47.13 | CIA-22 | -added macrotext |
| 19:47.13 | CIA-22 | -fixed position loading |
| 19:47.16 | yssaril | clad|book: hehe k how about this it is better to keep it short |
| 19:47.39 | clad|book | I'm just suggesting that its an arbitrary limit, and there's absolutely nothign inherently wrong with sending a longer prefix |
| 19:47.55 | Xinhuan | i don't really see why anyone would want to display the addon list in a paged format when the entire list of 900 addons is already downloaded in the HTML javascript |
| 19:47.56 | clad|book | that' sall =) |
| 19:48.05 | yssaril | and yes 3 is kinda arbitrary i was kinda going along the small vs huge thing :) |
| 19:48.20 | clad|book | well, sure dont' use a 32 character prefix when 5 will do |
| 19:48.29 | clad|book | but limiting it at the framework level seems arbitrary, that's all i was commenting on P |
| 19:48.39 | Pkekyo | who's in charge of the files.wowace.com site? |
| 19:48.51 | yssaril | later guys im of to work |
| 19:49.22 | clad|book | ckknight: do you do something sneaky with the prefixes/messages, or just chose three as a good limit? |
| 19:49.42 | Pkekyo | Kaelten: ping? |
| 19:49.45 | NightHawkTheSane | The thing that gets me about a forced 3 byte prefix is that it doesn't seem like it'd cope well with multibyte characters, but i'm not sure how wow handles those anyway, so |
| 19:49.48 | ckknight | clad|book: for Ace2 or Rock? |
| 19:49.52 | Kaelten | pong? |
| 19:50.19 | Pkekyo | Kaelten: was it you I was talking about the files.wowace.com errors in opera with yesterday? |
| 19:50.29 | clad|book | ckknight: this is in response to the change to CaN for the one cart module prefix.. we were trying to figure out why you did it P |
| 19:50.55 | ramoz | why has my keybinding text position changed? >,< |
| 19:51.09 | Pkekyo | because you touch yourself at night? |
| 19:51.24 | Kaelten | ya |
| 19:51.24 | Cheads | doing a version query in bigwigs.. 6 people are missing on the list... and they all say they have bigwigs installed and running.. any addon that could cause this problem? |
| 19:51.29 | Kaelten | it works in opera last I checked |
| 19:51.45 | NightHawkTheSane | Cheads: is it possible they're lying? ;) |
| 19:51.50 | ramoz | Pkekyo: so i have to stop? =( |
| 19:51.55 | Pkekyo | Kaelten: so you're the one currently developing the files.... site? |
| 19:52.04 | Pkekyo | ramoz: not if you can live with the keybinding text positioning :) |
| 19:52.25 | Funkeh` | Cheads: They could have a really really old version |
| 19:52.30 | Kaelten | um, I'm over the whole site, community and framework |
| 19:52.33 | Kaelten | so... ya |
| 19:52.43 | ckknight | clad|book: oh, for >= 3 letters, it memoizes it to 3 letters that are unreadable |
| 19:52.45 | Cheads | NightHawkTheSane nopes.. real life friends... |
| 19:52.55 | ckknight | clad|book: which means that anyone looking at CHAT_MSG_ADDON has no idea what's happening |
| 19:52.56 | clad|book | ckknight: ah okay.. just part of the comm framework? |
| 19:53.01 | Cheads | they have the lastest version of bigwigs... |
| 19:53.01 | ckknight | yea |
| 19:53.05 | clad|book | i figured you were being sneaky, thanks! |
| 19:53.10 | ckknight | :-P |
| 19:53.17 | Pkekyo | Kaelten: would just like to suggest a "show all" option rather than just showing pages, at ctrl+f searching is a very simple way to find addons on there...well, used to be, atleast... |
| 19:53.22 | clad|book | i like being informed :P |
| 19:53.24 | ramoz | Pkekyo: so if i stop you will tell me how to fix it? or better, hide it |
| 19:53.40 | ramoz | nevcairiel: ping? |
| 19:53.41 | clad|book | ckknight: how are you finding the conversion to rock, relatively painless.. just tedious? |
| 19:53.50 | Funkeh` | Cheads: how do you know if they don't appear in query? |
| 19:53.56 | Arrowmaster | Cheads: bigwigs version query is kinda fucked up, i reported what the problem was a while back but the fix was really fucked up too |
| 19:53.58 | Pkekyo | ramoz: no, but if you're lucky and all the planets in the solar system is perfectly aligned, it might work out in the end! |
| 19:54.35 | ckknight | clad|book: freaky easy, once I did an awesome hack |
| 19:54.36 | ramoz | i've already had the perfect planet alignment, so guess im in deep shit |
| 19:54.41 | sb | mh is something bugged with hunters today? :/ |
| 19:54.44 | ckknight | clad|book: basically, Rock supports Ace2 mixins |
| 19:54.48 | Pkekyo | ramoz: first of all...what actionbar addon? |
| 19:54.50 | Funkeh` | Arrowmaster: I've never seen anything wrong with it |
| 19:54.51 | ckknight | clad|book: which means that I can upgrade one mixin at a time |
| 19:54.52 | clad|book | ah, that would make it easier |
| 19:54.58 | Funkeh` | Arrowmaster: Its a pretty simple query |
| 19:55.02 | ckknight | clad|book: instead of doing the whole thing all at once |
| 19:55.10 | clad|book | ckknight: do you have any screenshots of LibRockConfig? I don't use any of your addons right now, so I haven't had an excuse to update and see |
| 19:55.19 | ckknight | ah, sorry, no |
| 19:55.24 | clad|book | ah okay |
| 19:55.29 | ckknight | maybe I'll whip some up later |
| 19:55.34 | clad|book | fun! |
| 19:55.36 | ramoz | Pkekyo: didnt i say Bartender3 (with cyCircled)? |
| 19:55.47 | Xinhuan | he had some previously, to show us the colorselect or something |
| 19:56.08 | Pkekyo | ramoz: not that I know? anyways...did this happen -after- you changed to a new CyCircled skin? |
| 19:56.14 | ramoz | no |
| 19:56.21 | ramoz | im not sure when it happend |
| 19:56.31 | Arrowmaster | Funkeh`: the original problem was that the LoDaddon the version query is in gets loaded before the LoDaddon the comm stuff is in so all the setting the throttle to 0 instead of the default 1 didnt work |
| 19:56.35 | ramoz | i did f10, and logged on and it was in another postion |
| 19:56.42 | ramoz | ima try disabling cycircled |
| 19:57.02 | Funkeh` | Arrowmaster: there is no trottle |
| 19:57.08 | Funkeh` | Arrowmaster: it doesn't need one |
| 19:57.16 | Arrowmaster | Funkeh`: comm default throttle is 1 |
| 19:57.29 | Funkeh` | It was remved when whispers were used |
| 19:57.33 | Arrowmaster | ah |
| 19:57.50 | Arrowmaster | wait for version query? |
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| 19:58.44 | cncfanatics | yssaril, ur confusing Rock API and blizz api there ? |
| 19:58.48 | ramoz | Pkekyo: i think someone broke it when they added flexbar support to cycircled, its fine when i disable it |
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| 19:59.16 | ramoz | that means you cncfanatics! |
| 19:59.23 | Pkekyo | :> |
| 19:59.40 | cncfanatics | ramoz, what did I do ? |
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| 20:00.24 | Mudkips | hey what's up with recount??? It keeps parsing info during raids, after I set it on standby |
| 20:00.53 | cncfanatics | ramoz, if u want me to fix my mess answer :p |
| 20:01.21 | Xinhuan | cncfanatics: scroll up the last 2 pages lol |
| 20:01.30 | Pkekyo | cncfanatics: apparently, keybinding text's position was shitfted when flexbar support was added to cyCircled |
| 20:01.31 | cncfanatics | I'm lazy |
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| 20:01.53 | Cheads | Funkeh` I'm doing the version query .. and I can see they are not on the list... |
| 20:02.07 | Arrowmaster | yeah i did a version query last raid and had the same issue |
| 20:02.21 | cncfanatics | lets see |
| 20:02.46 | Arrowmaster | i think the time that the version query waits is too short |
| 20:02.48 | Xinhuan | start reading from: [9/14 03:49:05] <ramoz> why has my keybinding text position changed? >,< |
| 20:03.29 | cncfanatics | lets see |
| 20:03.34 | cncfanatics | this should fix it |
| 20:05.09 | Pkekyo | haven't updated my addons for a couple of weeks...anything groundbreaking happened lately? |
| 20:05.58 | cncfanatics | I broke cyCircled it seems :) |
| 20:06.08 | Pkekyo | lol |
| 20:07.02 | Kaelten | right now though I'm working on my acl manager for svn |
| 20:07.04 | kadrahil | good game |
| 20:07.36 | Cheads | would be nice if you could actually see if people actually had bigwigs installed |
| 20:08.11 | Arrowmaster | i just use VersionQuery to see if they do |
| 20:08.14 | Chompers | lulwut |
| 20:09.08 | cncfanatics | hmmm, where are cycircled keybinding & stuff usualy ? |
| 20:09.24 | Pkekyo | cncfanatics: no clue...they're just there :P |
| 20:09.29 | Pkekyo | ramoz? |
| 20:09.43 | cncfanatics | I cant see any actual change if I reverse my changes tbh |
| 20:10.09 | Pkekyo | cncfanatics: don't know, just relayed what ramoz said... |
| 20:10.41 | ramoz | cncfanatics: top left corner |
| 20:10.48 | Stan__ | clad|book: http://img204.imageshack.us/img204/396/rockgq0.png |
| 20:10.51 | ramoz | now they're down left and almost |
| 20:10.53 | Pkekyo | ramoz: seriously? |
| 20:10.55 | ramoz | on the next one |
| 20:10.56 | ramoz | yeah |
| 20:11.00 | cncfanatics | lets see, sec |
| 20:11.14 | ramoz | want me to SS it? |
| 20:11.26 | cncfanatics | I'll check it out myself, sec |
| 20:12.20 | cncfanatics | ur right |
| 20:12.47 | ramoz | actually |
| 20:12.52 | ramoz | its top left, sorry |
| 20:13.09 | Pkekyo | Stan__: is that rock config? |
| 20:13.15 | ramoz | but now i cant see how many items i have cause of the keybindings (pots etc) |
| 20:13.17 | Stan__ | yup |
| 20:13.20 | Stan__ | @ Pkekyo |
| 20:13.26 | Pkekyo | too bad... :< |
| 20:13.32 | Stan__ | why? |
| 20:13.47 | cncfanatics | word begins with a p ;) |
| 20:13.49 | cncfanatics | then an o |
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| 20:14.13 | harldephin | thanks, ckknight & Xinhuan |
| 20:14.48 | Cheads | Arrowmaster but they dont show up here on the list, even though they claim that they have bigwigs running... |
| 20:15.45 | Arrowmaster | when you do a version query it only listens for 5 seconds |
| 20:16.07 | Cheads | well it's the same 5 people that are missing on that list |
| 20:16.17 | Arrowmaster | one of the people i never got to show up on my bigwigs version query monday i know uses DoTimer |
| 20:16.33 | Arrowmaster | ill just blame DoTimer's stupid ass comm shit for spamming too much |
| 20:16.59 | Cheads | well it's 2 rogues 2 warriors and a pally |
| 20:17.11 | Arrowmaster | .... |
| 20:17.12 | cncfanatics | dottimers ? |
| 20:17.13 | cncfanatics | naaa :p |
| 20:17.36 | Arrowmaster | i know antiarc was blaming dotimer for some threat-1.0 sync stuff |
| 20:18.01 | Antiarc | DoTimer clogs up anything that uses ChatThrottleLib or AceComm |
| 20:18.33 | Chompers | doesn't it send the status of a dot rather than its name and time? |
| 20:18.51 | Arrowmaster | no its fucking sends full xml one tag at a time |
| 20:18.51 | Antiarc | It sends an assload of info |
| 20:18.53 | Cheads | dotimer stopped that in the lastest version.. comm is gone |
| 20:18.53 | cncfanatics | ramoz, there you go |
| 20:18.54 | CIA-22 | 03cncfanatics * r48841 10cyCircled/core.lua: cyCircled: Hotkey positioning fix |
| 20:19.03 | Arrowmaster | good |
| 20:19.09 | Cheads | but that still doesn't help me |
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| 20:19.40 | cncfanatics | why would a wow addon EVER send xml ? |
| 20:19.53 | Arrowmaster | well its not xml but it looked like it |
| 20:20.26 | Arrowmaster | seeing it send shit like '</cooldownfooter>' or something on a single line |
| 20:20.27 | NightHawkTheSane | "YOu gave up coffee for your symbiote?" |
| 20:21.05 | cncfanatics | sad |
| 20:21.10 | Arrowmaster | Cheads: get the addon VersionQuery and send a query for BigWigs to make sure theyre using a recentish version |
| 20:21.47 | Arrowmaster | also query for BigWigs_Extras just to see if they have that folder |
| 20:22.01 | Arrowmaster | i wouldnt be supprised if that was what it was |
| 20:23.20 | Arrowmaster | a tonumber() on a string starting with a number but having letters at the end would give everything to the first none numeric character right? |
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| 20:23.41 | ramoz | cncfanatics: thanks! |
| 20:23.46 | cncfanatics | ramoz, worked ? |
| 20:24.06 | cncfanatics | (remember zips take up to 20 mins to show up) |
| 20:24.35 | Arrowmaster | cncfanatics: you commited that at 19 after, zip should run at 20 after |
| 20:25.08 | cncfanatics | lucky :o |
| 20:25.09 | Arrowmaster | it 'should' already be ziped |
| 20:25.25 | cncfanatics | runs on irc time ? :p |
| 20:25.44 | Diao | "irc time" is local system time though |
| 20:25.56 | cncfanatics | true enough |
| 20:25.58 | Xinhuan | [9/14 04:21:31] <Arrowmaster> a tonumber() on a string starting with a number but having letters at the end would give everything to the first none numeric character right? |
| 20:25.59 | cncfanatics | either way, the zip is there |
| 20:26.05 | cncfanatics | ramoz, please tell me if it works before I logout for the night |
| 20:26.07 | Arrowmaster | most computers keep their system clocks synced with ntp |
| 20:26.17 | Xinhuan | lua> print(tonumber("123ab")) |
| 20:26.17 | cladbot | Xinhuan: nil |
| 20:26.22 | Xinhuan | answer: no |
| 20:26.29 | cncfanatics | Arrowmaster, ur previous message was at 26 minutes 40 seconds after the hour, correct? |
| 20:26.31 | Arrowmaster | then found the problem |
| 20:26.59 | Arrowmaster | ^^ that message was just at 26:40 for me |
| 20:27.03 | cncfanatics | same for me |
| 20:27.09 | cncfanatics | oh, that one |
| 20:27.12 | cncfanatics | 27 and a bit now |
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| 20:27.35 | NightHawkTheSane | theoretically, we should all be seeing the exact same "minute" values for time. :P |
| 20:27.42 | NightHawkTheSane | unless your system is horribly out of sync |
| 20:27.44 | Cheads | ok I will try that Arrowmaster |
| 20:28.05 | ramoz | cncfanatics: works fine, just tested |
| 20:28.10 | cncfanatics | ramoz, oki, then I can logout |
| 20:28.25 | Funkeh` | If they deleted bw_extras yeah they won't appear... |
| 20:28.45 | Arrowmaster | Funkeh`: found the problem, comments from version.lua '-- New Style: REV QuereeNick' (previous style really) '-- CHAT_MSG_ADDON style: REV' |
| 20:28.53 | Arrowmaster | table.insert(responseTable, new(sender, tonumber(message))) |
| 20:28.57 | Arrowmaster | hmm |
| 20:29.17 | cncfanatics | g'night peeps |
| 20:29.22 | Arrowmaster | and theyre saying tonumber("12345 nick") would return nil |
| 20:29.40 | Xinhuan | lua> print(tonumber("12345 nick")) |
| 20:29.40 | cladbot | Xinhuan: nil |
| 20:29.46 | Xinhuan | indeed it does |
| 20:30.11 | Pkekyo | Pkekyotoo bad... :< |
| 20:30.12 | Pkekyo | Stan__why? |
| 20:30.12 | Pkekyo | because it's fugly |
| 20:30.56 | Xinhuan | lua> print(tonumber("-0")) |
| 20:30.57 | cladbot | Xinhuan: -0 |
| 20:31.51 | Arrowmaster | maybe change it to a message:match("%d+") |
| 20:32.59 | Stan__ | Pkekyo: looks just like niagara |
| 20:33.13 | Arrowmaster | lua> print(("12345 nick"):match("%d+")) |
| 20:33.14 | cladbot | Arrowmaster: 12345 |
| 20:33.35 | Xinhuan | that is a string though, Arrowmaster |
| 20:33.43 | Xinhuan | since you didn't tonumber() |
| 20:33.49 | Arrowmaster | lua> print(tonumber(("12345 nick"):match("%d+"))) |
| 20:33.49 | cladbot | Arrowmaster: 12345 |
| 20:33.52 | Xinhuan | since match() returns a string |
| 20:34.09 | Xinhuan | subtle difference i know ;p |
| 20:34.52 | Arrowmaster | lua> print(tonumber(("MC:12345 BWL:12346 ZG:12347"):match("%d+"))) |
| 20:34.52 | cladbot | Arrowmaster: 12345 |
| 20:35.52 | Nickenyfiken | lua> print("Night night") |
| 20:35.53 | cladbot | Nickenyfiken: Night night |
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| 20:48.12 | CIA-22 | 03arrowmaster * r48842 10BigWigs/Extras/Version.lua: BigWigs: VersionQuery: tonumber(message) to tonumber(message:match("%d+")) so previously used "REV QueryNick" reply syntax is recognized |
| 20:48.43 | CIA-22 | 03starinnia * r48843 10SimpleMD/SMD_Menu.lua: |
| 20:48.43 | CIA-22 | SimpleMD: |
| 20:48.43 | CIA-22 | - removed legacy commands from menu that were causing errors |
| 20:49.37 | Funkeh` | Arrowmaster: I don't want backwards compatability,people should update, thats not our problem. |
| 20:50.25 | Arrowmaster | its only for when you run a version query so you can see whos out of date and click the little thingy in the tablet to bitch at them so they can update |
| 20:50.45 | Arrowmaster | otherwise when you click the thingy it wont bitch at them since it doesnt think they even have bigwigs |
| 20:50.53 | Funkeh` | Meh, I don't even udnerstand why people force the damn mod |
| 20:51.14 | Arrowmaster | we dont, but i bitch at people that dont update |
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| 20:52.28 | Arrowmaster | and i still have to hear the 'but its not my fault for fucking up, the mod timers were off' |
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| 20:53.46 | Arrowmaster | sooo many people saying lurker whirl timer was off on monday, yet only like 6 people using the most recent bigwigs for SSC |
| 20:54.48 | aestil | I did lurker last night. my timer was perfect, but we didn't get an 'imgerging' notice. |
| 20:55.39 | NightHawkTheSane | do you mean "emerging?" |
| 20:55.40 | Arrowmaster | whirl timer was perfect for you? |
| 20:55.57 | Arrowmaster | so that means i can go apeshit bitching at my raid? |
| 20:56.13 | NightHawkTheSane | Arrowmaster: like you need an excuse to do that? ;) |
| 20:56.24 | aestil | the spout timer |
| 20:56.34 | aestil | but, its only a warning. |
| 20:56.45 | Arrowmaster | oh no they were saying the whirl timer was off |
| 20:56.48 | aestil | like many abilities of bosses, they aren't perfectly timed, you just get a warrning for the cooldown. |
| 20:56.58 | aestil | whirl? |
| 20:57.01 | aestil | what timer is that? |
| 20:57.11 | Arrowmaster | perty sure its named whirl |
| 20:57.17 | aestil | you mean the knockback? |
| 20:57.21 | cryogen | whirlwind? the melee shit he does? |
| 20:57.25 | Arrowmaster | he does this whirlwind like thing |
| 20:57.30 | aestil | wtf do you need a timer for that? |
| 20:57.38 | aestil | i didn't even know there was one. |
| 20:57.40 | Arrowmaster | does it after every spout and a few other times i think |
| 20:57.54 | aestil | he does it pretty much all the time, the thing that is a knockback. |
| 20:58.03 | Arrowmaster | no theres 2 knockbacks |
| 20:58.05 | Antiarc | http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070912/ap_on_fe_st/odd_cambodia_strange_love;_ylt=AsNgWd5gMNBn99Wvhw5WDk8uQE4F |
| 20:58.16 | Arrowmaster | the targeted one and then an aoe one around him |
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| 20:58.23 | Antiarc | We did Lurker last night and I had 0 Whirl issues |
| 20:58.40 | aestil | i dunno, i mean, we 1 shot him last night, and no one said anythign about it. |
| 20:58.48 | Arrowmaster | yeah ill just bitch at my raid to update again |
| 20:58.48 | aestil | its probalby old big wigs issues, or random bugs. |
| 20:58.57 | aestil | hydross and lurker are pretty buggy fights. |
| 20:59.01 | Arrowmaster | somebody was fucking stil using 39xxx bigwigs |
| 20:59.22 | Arrowmaster | and theyre all like "but ive got bigwigs 2.0, thats the latest right?" |
| 21:00.17 | Arrowmaster | oh yeah lurker a shitty fight for bossmods due to issues of making sure your still actually fighting him |
| 21:00.33 | Arrowmaster | or knowing when you engage |
| 21:01.40 | Fisker- | /shoo Punkie` |
| 21:01.42 | harldephin | i've added a small check to my Postman.lua, trying to make up for the immediate delivery thing when mailing one's own chars -- http://ace.pastey.net/73834 |
| 21:02.27 | Ackis | forgive me for this possible newbish question, but with WAU what's the difference between disembeding your libraries and automatic dependency downloading? |
| 21:03.25 | aestil | well, it depends if you are having any issues. |
| 21:03.35 | aestil | if you aren't right now, i wouldn't change anything. |
| 21:04.33 | Ackis | was more curious than anything, I didn't notice the setting and when I'd update I would get libs downloading, however I didn't think I disembeded them, so going back I noticed that it was checked |
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| 21:06.30 | Arrowmaster | if you do an update with skipversion check and delete before extracting on it will remove any embeded libraries if your having it download libs seperately |
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| 21:30.47 | orionshock | morning all |
| 21:30.59 | Funkeh` | morning |
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| 21:46.08 | ftt|waffle | does anyone use icehud? |
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| 21:51.13 | Kaydeethree | new PTR build: 7250. diffs at http://spyglass-server.com/wowints/ |
| 21:51.53 | Funkeh` | Why thank you |
| 21:53.09 | ag` | I'm suspecting classtimer of doing 4mbs of trash over a few hours |
| 21:53.26 | Funkeh` | I wouldn't put it past it |
| 21:53.30 | Ominous_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:53.34 | Funkeh` | Uses way too many libs |
| 21:53.46 | ag` | I'm not saying it's 100% true |
| 21:53.55 | Industrial | ag`: cast less ROFLROFLROLROFLR!!! |
| 21:54.10 | Funkeh` | lol... |
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| 21:54.59 | Funkeh` | Kaydeethree: Funny they forgot to change the toc for several, either that or they screwed up something whilst merging patches and it got reverted |
| 21:55.01 | Ominous_ | ag`: is uses shared media and babble-spell, fubar plugin and |
| 21:55.11 | Ominous_ | s/and/and the normal ace2 libs/ |
| 21:55.17 | Ominous_ | oops |
| 21:55.21 | ag` | but I just went to the addon from chronometer because chronometer "forgets" some debuffs often, while they're still applied |
| 21:55.42 | ag` | if that was fixed chronometer would be good enough for me |
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| 21:56.02 | ag` | guess I'll take a look at fixing it myself when I get the time |
| 21:56.15 | Ominous_ | try it with profilling, it dosent use that much |
| 21:56.33 | ag` | I'm not 100% sure |
| 21:56.55 | ag` | but it was the only addon I changed I think, and now I get much more trash |
| 21:57.11 | charon_ | !ap 5v5 1500 |
| 21:57.11 | ThraeBot | charon_: Rating given is above the threshold for conversion. Try a different number. Or perhaps you meant to convert points to ratings (!ar)? Either way, you fail at life. |
| 21:57.12 | Funkeh` | I prefer Quartz, you might want to try that instead of going into fixing cm |
| 21:57.52 | ag` | quartz monitors target debuffs too? |
| 21:58.11 | [dRaCo] | yours, yes |
| 21:58.16 | ag` | yes |
| 21:58.18 | ag` | great |
| 21:58.40 | kebinusan | yeah, its called buffs in the waterfall menu |
| 21:58.59 | ag` | how heavy is quartz |
| 21:59.12 | kebinusan | seems pretty lightweight to me |
| 21:59.15 | ag` | on libs inclusion, features etc |
| 21:59.16 | kebinusan | its a very nice casting bar mod |
| 21:59.20 | ag` | ok |
| 21:59.20 | Ominous_ | ag`: classtimers debuff timers are based on quartz's |
| 21:59.23 | kebinusan | great feature list |
| 21:59.24 | ckknight | hey all |
| 21:59.24 | [dRaCo] | lots of features |
| 21:59.28 | [dRaCo] | but modular |
| 21:59.30 | ag` | Ominous_: hmm |
| 21:59.35 | ag` | then that should result in the same |
| 21:59.54 | ag` | I'm still not saying classtimers is the problem |
| 22:00.00 | ag` | but it's my suspicision |
| 22:00.11 | Ominous_ | put profilling on and tell me the result |
| 22:00.29 | ag` | Unfortunately I run with embedded too |
| 22:00.53 | Ominous_ | that wont make a difference though |
| 22:01.02 | Ominous_ | it its trash you are complaining about |
| 22:01.16 | ag` | yeah |
| 22:01.26 | ag` | it's getting listed for fubar |
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| 22:06.05 | ag` | nope, guess it's not classtimer :D |
| 22:06.20 | Ominous_ | :) |
| 22:06.25 | ag` | sorry about that Ominous_ |
| 22:06.31 | ag` | was the only change I did myself |
| 22:06.38 | Ominous_ | ag`: dw |
| 22:06.45 | ag` | how the hell do I track this down |
| 22:06.53 | ag` | with embedded libs |
| 22:07.10 | ag` | It's just listed as +2mb for fubar |
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| 22:07.39 | Ominous_ | :S |
| 22:07.56 | Diao | you can't really |
| 22:08.08 | ag` | I don't really feel like disembedding |
| 22:08.12 | ag` | as I use SVN |
| 22:08.21 | Ominous_ | --ignore-externals FTW |
| 22:08.26 | ag` | yeah |
| 22:08.36 | ag` | but then I have to check out all the libs manually |
| 22:09.18 | nevcairiel | thats what i did |
| 22:09.19 | nevcairiel | :) |
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| 22:10.00 | ag` | but that's painful |
| 22:10.22 | nevcairiel | not so painful then watching it pull a gazillion externals on update |
| 22:10.38 | ag` | never bothered me that much |
| 22:10.47 | ag` | but yeah |
| 22:10.51 | ag` | that's stupid too |
| 22:15.57 | Ominous_ | ckknight: ping |
| 22:16.05 | ckknight | pong |
| 22:16.06 | ckknight | what's up? |
| 22:16.38 | Ominous_ | ckknight: hows LibBabbleSpell-3.0 doing? ready for use yet? |
| 22:16.53 | ckknight | API won't change, the backend might, though |
| 22:16.55 | ckknight | pretty much. |
| 22:17.48 | Ominous_ | altho presumabily not much point changing atm if no other addons use it and my addon uses ace2 etc anyway |
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| 22:24.23 | rubik | ElkBuffBars (new one) safe to use these days and stuff or still better to stick with ElkBuffBar? |
| 22:24.33 | Ominous_ | new one is safe |
| 22:24.46 | rubik | cool.. i might finally upgrade it then |
| 22:24.53 | ulic | I've been using Bar's' for a long while, no issues. |
| 22:24.56 | rubik | s/upgrade/switch/ |
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| 22:25.38 | Pkekyo | rubik: EBBs has been superior to EBB for quite some time now :> |
| 22:25.45 | rubik | haha |
| 22:26.13 | rubik | yes, yes.. i know.. i've just been scared of the "beta! not working! do not use!" tags (which i don't know if they're there anymore or not) |
| 22:26.19 | rubik | so i never actually switched |
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| 22:27.13 | Pkekyo | 'beta' addons on wowace are nine out of ten times perfectly functional |
| 22:27.21 | rubik | true |
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| 22:27.36 | Pkekyo | look at omen for one... |
| 22:27.50 | rubik | also can rephrase that as "nine out of ten wowace addons are beta yet perfectly functional" |
| 22:28.15 | rubik | hrmm.. wait.. that IS the same exact thing.. nevermind. lol |
| 22:29.02 | Pkekyo | ;) |
| 22:30.13 | Industrial | but they aren't "officially" |
| 22:30.26 | Industrial | besides, tagging and hosting it on an addon site wins - imo |
| 22:32.52 | Pkekyo | Industrial: aren't officially what? |
| 22:34.31 | Industrial | stable/released |
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| 22:35.06 | Industrial | well yes there can be bugs after releases - but you can test before releases |
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| 22:36.13 | Panye | guys got a problem, and dont know what addon is doing it.. basically when say going to make bandages, potions etc.. im not seeing the various types only '...' any ideas what could be causing that? |
| 22:36.41 | charon_ | i remember something about fonts, try and fiddle with your UI scale |
| 22:36.52 | NightHawkTheSane | ^^ |
| 22:37.08 | Panye | hmm, ok giving that a go |
| 22:37.41 | rubik | yeah.. guessing your font is too large all of a sudden and just doesn't fit in the frame(s), etc. |
| 22:39.04 | charon_ | no idea who discussed that but seems there is a font-changing addon that causes this if UI scaling is off or 1.0 |
| 22:39.34 | Panye | awesome.. that worked thanks |
| 22:40.15 | charon_ | :) |
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| 22:44.12 | CIA-22 | 03adirelle * r48847 10FuBar_ThreatFu/FuBar_ThreatFu.lua: |
| 22:44.12 | CIA-22 | FuBar_ThreatFu: |
| 22:44.13 | CIA-22 | - added colors to player names in the tooltip, |
| 22:44.13 | CIA-22 | - attempt to fix the bug where the tooltip is not updated as needed (when raid roster changes). |
| 22:44.42 | charon_ | a big thanks to whoever made my brand-new SVN account, i hope i'll get around to importing my mod tomorrow |
| 22:45.00 | NightHawkTheSane | charon_: that's likely Kaelten |
| 22:45.06 | Pkekyo | threatfu? now what? |
| 22:45.08 | charon_ | ah. so thanks Kaelten :) |
| 22:45.13 | charon_ | but for now i'm off to bed. goodnight |
| 22:45.17 | Pkekyo | g'nite |
| 22:45.30 | charon_ | Pkekyo: btw i gave your "one texture" suggestion a shot, and i'm liking it |
| 22:45.43 | charon_ | still, i'm convinced it doesn't work with either otravi or bantobar, which i had before. |
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| 22:45.48 | NightHawkTheSane | ~botmail |
| 22:45.50 | Kaelten | yep thats me |
| 22:45.51 | Kaelten | np |
| 22:45.52 | charon_ | <PROTECTED> |
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| 22:46.57 | Pkekyo | automated warehouses is a crock of shit |
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| 22:47.53 | Pkekyo | webshop I ordered some new hardware from haven't been able to deliver -anything- for WEEKS due to automating their warehouse/stockpile system >.< |
| 22:47.55 | Pkekyo | smacktards |
| 22:48.42 | Pkekyo | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:48.48 | NightHawkTheSane | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:48.53 | Pkekyo | anyone know what # week this is? |
| 22:48.54 | Olison | NightHawkTheSane: which one? :> |
| 22:49.08 | NightHawkTheSane | Olison: just an acer 22" something orother |
| 22:49.16 | Olison | ah i see |
| 22:49.38 | Pkekyo | damn |
| 22:49.38 | Pkekyo | the webshop is -more than a month- behind on sending out shipments |
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| 22:51.46 | Tinyboom | komplett Pkekyo? |
| 22:51.57 | Pkekyo | Tinyboom: correctemundo |
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| 22:52.30 | Tinyboom | they have my gfx card....alll i miss to have my new comp.... sucks having the parts on my desk being unusable... |
| 22:52.33 | rubik | it's week #37? |
| 22:52.40 | Pkekyo | my sysfans ar howling like fucking tornados, so I ordered some low-noise fans and other noise-reducing products about a week ago... |
| 22:52.56 | Tinyboom | gonna cancel the order and find it somewhere else, a month is rubbish.... |
| 22:53.05 | Pkekyo | 37? may komplett burn in hell....seems they won't ship my stuff 'till week 40 |
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| 22:53.39 | Pkekyo | Tinyboom: I'd love to do the same, but they're the only ones in norway retailing what I'm buying, and I can't afford to import due to taxes >.< |
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| 22:54.17 | rubik | it's either week #36 or #37 of 2007.. outlook says 37 but rainlendar proggy thingy on my desktop shows week 36 |
| 22:54.31 | Tinyboom | Pkekyo: that sucks... i bought from amentio.no and they apparently uses norek as distrubutor.... bah |
| 22:55.37 | Pkekyo | Tinyboom: yeah, was looking forward to being able to turn my computer off without getting screwed up mentally due to there being no fan noise :P |
| 22:56.10 | Pkekyo | amentio looks shitty :< |
| 22:56.51 | Pkekyo | Tinyboom: is it norek that's redoing their stockpile processing? thought it was komplett only |
| 22:57.16 | NightHawkTheSane | What week it is can vary by 1 depending on how you determine what the "first" week is, to be sure |
| 22:57.49 | Pkekyo | meeh...I dunno! I just wanna know how many movies I have to buy to survive the wait :p |
| 22:58.20 | Pkekyo | got nothing to do 'till my hardware arives.... |
| 22:58.39 | Pkekyo | well, nothing -fun- to do...I'm neck-deep in work that needs to be done |
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| 23:00.03 | Pkekyo | well, I'm off...gotta be up early |
| 23:00.07 | Pkekyo | g'nite |
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| 23:06.06 | Ominous | using xChat is it possible to make a command to leave a channel. change your nick then rejoin the channel |
| 23:06.54 | ckknight | <PROTECTED> |
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| 23:07.24 | kaiden | Have there been any problems with Omen working while solo with hunters and their pets |
| 23:07.35 | kaiden | mine no longer works after rev 45044 |
| 23:08.24 | RogueShadow | o my, I wonder why I never thought to use it that way |
| 23:08.26 | Aileen_ | it looks fine to me |
| 23:09.26 | kaiden | it's gotta be something with the threat lib because Recount wont show my threat either |
| 23:10.49 | kaiden | Aileen_, the question is, do you use it as a hunter |
| 23:13.24 | Dotted | [Ominous]: using xChat is it possible to make a command to leave a channel. change your nick then rejoin the channel <- gotta hate freenodes lol-cant-change-nick-in-moderated-channels |
| 23:14.44 | BankZ | Can you change the potsition of the "dead" space in ArkInvintory ? |
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| 23:18.04 | Bruners | i want a new addon to play with |
| 23:19.31 | kaiden | i'll let you play with my addon |
| 23:19.39 | Kaelten_ | http://files.wowace.com/# |
| 23:19.42 | Kaelten_ | I give you show all |
| 23:20.10 | kaiden | nice kaelten |
| 23:20.13 | kaiden | it's getting very sexy |
| 23:20.20 | Kaelten_ | its just slow |
| 23:21.58 | Kaelten_ | bit it is dealing with almost 1k projects now |
| 23:22.17 | NeoTron | our of curiosity how does klhtm know Threat is fake? |
| 23:23.08 | Ominous | presumabilly because it can see that AceLibrary("Threat-1.0") exists or because it moniters the addon channel |
| 23:23.10 | Kaelten_ | it listens for Threat's version message if I remember properly. |
| 23:23.19 | Aileen_ | yes i am a hunter |
| 23:23.30 | Ominous | Kaelten_: is that 1k 2.0 + projects? |
| 23:23.39 | Kaelten_ | yes |
| 23:24.12 | Ominous | wow |
| 23:24.20 | Kaelten_ | I think we're in the high 900s now |
| 23:24.51 | Ominous | getting close to 50k revissions too |
| 23:24.55 | Ominous | which is mad |
| 23:25.03 | Kaelten_ | ya its pretty nuts |
| 23:25.06 | Bruners | Kaelten_: what if you add different colour betwen the rows ? |
| 23:25.23 | Kaelten_ | bruners there is different colour between the rows |
| 23:25.33 | Bruners | there is ? |
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| 23:26.16 | Gnarfoz | yeah, it's very light, but there's a difference |
| 23:26.34 | Kaelten_ | I'm going to redo the colors involved |
| 23:26.40 | Kaelten_ | but this is what I got for right now |
| 23:26.53 | Ominous | Kaelten_: hows ace3? |
| 23:26.53 | Bruners | cant see the difference |
| 23:27.14 | Bruners | Kaelten_: my bad, can se it on my other screen |
| 23:27.37 | Bruners | crappy cheap acer lcd |
| 23:28.05 | Kaelten_ | I can make it darker |
| 23:28.14 | Kaelten_ | until I have a chance to go in and seriously redo the color scheme |
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| 23:29.29 | Kaelten_ | darker background generating |
| 23:29.40 | Bruners | it just shows how crap my lcd really is |
| 23:29.49 | Bruners | compared to the other one |
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| 23:30.26 | Ominous | Kaelten_: the name column could do with being abit wider so !!!StandAloneLibaries can fit on one line |
| 23:30.46 | MajorPayne_ | MacAceUpdater is not seeing any addons |
| 23:30.50 | MajorPayne_ | how do I fix that? |
| 23:30.59 | pastamancer | bug Kev |
| 23:31.15 | MajorPayne_ | It was working fine up until two days ago though |
| 23:31.31 | pastamancer | it wasn't parsing the right file |
| 23:31.34 | Bruners | Kaelten_: much better |
| 23:31.47 | pastamancer | you should be able to use the java updater or wuu in the time being |
| 23:31.56 | MajorPayne_ | wuu? |
| 23:32.04 | pastamancer | wwu.vagabonds.info |
| 23:32.10 | pastamancer | multi-site updater |
| 23:32.54 | MajorPayne_ | if I have existing addons installed, etc. will WUU detect that? |
| 23:33.00 | MajorPayne_ | I don't want to lose my addons, at all |
| 23:33.11 | MajorPayne_ | (installed via MacAceUpdater, that is) |
| 23:33.18 | pastamancer | it'll update them since it won't know what the current version is |
| 23:33.28 | MajorPayne_ | ah ok |
| 23:33.37 | MajorPayne_ | and those changelogs in each addon |
| 23:33.48 | MajorPayne_ | those are a part of the standard package with the addon correct? |
| 23:33.58 | MajorPayne_ | not something MacAceUpdater pulled down along with the addon |
| 23:34.03 | pastamancer | yes, but they're not to be relied on by updaters |
| 23:34.22 | MajorPayne_ | ah ok thats fine - I just like to read those when they are updated |
| 23:34.37 | pastamancer | they're put in the zips automatically |
| 23:34.42 | MajorPayne_ | It would actually be cool if everytime an update occurred in those programs, they'd download some sort of ... like... |
| 23:34.50 | MajorPayne_ | changelog compendium for just the addons updated |
| 23:34.58 | Kaelten_ | I think the windows does |
| 23:35.10 | MajorPayne_ | like a central... "this is what was updated - the changelogs for the addons you just updated, right here, in one place" |
| 23:35.20 | Kaelten_ | ya WAU on windows does that |
| 23:35.24 | MajorPayne_ | ah nice |
| 23:35.27 | MajorPayne_ | silly Mac... |
| 23:35.29 | Kaelten_ | unless I'm crazy |
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| 23:35.45 | MajorPayne_ | Does WUU do that as well, ooc? |
| 23:36.01 | pastamancer | I don't think it molests the changelogs |
| 23:36.01 | Kaelten | not sure |
| 23:36.06 | MajorPayne_ | ah.. |
| 23:36.08 | MajorPayne_ | too bad |
| 23:36.18 | MajorPayne_ | man.. someone really needs to make a WAU equivalent for Macs |
| 23:36.22 | MajorPayne_ | 1:1 |
| 23:36.30 | Bruners | Kaelten: now just a link to the wikipage for each addon :P |
| 23:36.36 | Bruners | *add |
| 23:36.43 | Kaelten | development stalled on WAU2 or you'd have it by now |
| 23:36.57 | MajorPayne_ | but isnt WAU2 web based? |
| 23:37.01 | MajorPayne_ | Java on a Mac SUCKS |
| 23:37.04 | MajorPayne_ | big time |
| 23:37.08 | MajorPayne_ | at least until Leopad |
| 23:37.11 | MajorPayne_ | *Leopard |
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| 23:38.55 | Bruners | is bartender3_autobindings obsolete ? |
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| 23:49.02 | Aileen_ | sucks how? |
| 23:49.48 | pastamancer | MajorPayne_: I haven't had issues with java on my powerbook |
| 23:50.26 | Aileen_ | me either, or my mini |
| 23:51.04 | MajorPayne_ | it's just a known thing - Java on Macs sucks |
| 23:51.07 | MajorPayne_ | resource hog |
| 23:51.23 | MajorPayne_ | it's going to be a non-issue when Leopard comes around |
| 23:51.35 | pastamancer | java is always going to be ram hungry |
| 23:52.34 | Diao | java in general |
| 23:52.39 | Diao | eats memory |
| 23:52.40 | Diao | lol |
| 23:59.15 | Aileen_ | munch munch... between Eclipse and web servers on my windows machine I can eat up 1 GB easy... only run web servers on the mini for the most part but they are fairly well behaved, stay under 256-512 MB apiece |
| 23:59.18 | Kaelten | main problem with java and macs is that mac is only on jvm 1.5 |
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