IRC log for #wowace on 20070915

00:00.01*** join/#wowace feihc (n=masterga@68-188-188-4.dhcp.bycy.mi.charter.com)
00:00.35MagnavoxAny mod coders in here? My guildy wants a simple mod made but I dont know WoW Lua syntax
00:00.47AntiarcNo, all the mod coders hang out in a different channel
00:00.55*** join/#wowace Ominous_ (i=Ominous@81-178-249-14.dsl.pipex.com)
00:00.58Antiarc*grin*
00:00.58aestilso true antiarc
00:01.02Funkeh`I'm really pondering just making my own
00:01.05Funkeh`gonna try kenery
00:01.07MagnavoxO.o
00:01.16AntiarcFunkeh`: Ticker modswill be useless in 2.2 anyhow
00:01.18aestiltry kenergy funky i suspect you'll be cool with it.
00:01.20MagnavoxI just found this IRC channel on a mod site
00:01.24aestiltrue that.
00:01.25AntiarcDue to the "energy prorating" thing going in
00:01.30Funkeh`Antiarc: ?
00:01.33AntiarcMagnavox: I'm pulling your leg. Most people in here are devs.
00:01.39MagnavoxOk
00:01.55Funkeh`Antiarc: Spill more info ;p
00:01.57AntiarcFunkeh`: They're pro-rating ticks. If you open 1.8 sec into a 2 sec tick, you get 0.2/2 * tickval energy back on the next tick, rather than the full 20
00:01.59aestilfunkeh: in the next patch, when you use an ability right before your energy tick, you won't get the full amount of energy.
00:02.01MoonWitchHEY, not all of us are coders *yet*
00:02.08*** join/#wowace Ominous (i=Ominous@81-178-249-14.dsl.pipex.com)
00:02.09AntiarcSo you get 2 energy on the tick, instead of 20.
00:02.16MagnavoxBut yea, my guildy wants a mod that checks if you get the buff "Fecunidity" and then do a /yell command
00:02.22aestilantiarc: 4 right?
00:02.25Funkeh`wow
00:02.25*** join/#wowace Dark (i=darkknig@10001326477.0000061086.acesso.oni.pt)
00:02.26MagnavoxHow would I go about doing that?
00:02.27Funkeh`damn
00:02.45MoonWitchso new patch rogues are screwed
00:02.46Antiarcaestil: 2, I think. 0.2 / 2 * 20 = 2
00:03.01ckknightaestil: not finished yet
00:03.05AntiarcSword spec nerf, windfury nerf, haste nerf, DST nerf, energy nerf...we got hit with the nerf Mack truck in 2.2
00:03.21MoonWitchapparently
00:03.22aestilwoah, woah, whats wrong with sword spec?  did they change it back to how it used to be?
00:03.30Ominouscan someone go over this energy nerf again?
00:03.33AntiarcSword spec procs can't proc sword spec anymore
00:03.35[dRaCo]Antiarc: another wf nerf?
00:03.44aestilWF nerf was hotfixed a while ago.
00:03.49[dRaCo]yeah
00:04.00Darky
00:04.01AntiarcNo, just the hotfix one
00:04.05AntiarcBut I count it in the list :P
00:04.05aestilantiarc: sword spec is still equal to or better than dagger spec.
00:04.07[dRaCo]ah, ok.
00:04.13Antiarcaestil: Yes, but it is taking a nerf :)
00:04.22AntiarcOminous: Right now, every tick, you get 20 energy, right?
00:04.24aestilit was too good maybe? :)
00:04.29OminousAntiarc: ofc
00:04.41MagnavoxBut yea, my guildy wants a mod that checks if you get the buff "Fecunidity" and then do a /yell command
00:04.42AntiarcSo if you open 0.2 sec before a tick and spend 35 energy, then you get 20 energy back 0.2 sec later
00:04.43aestilantiarc: your math is correct, and I am stupid.
00:04.47AntiarcWhich is the purpose of energy tickers.
00:05.04Magnavox=/ WoW Lua is confusing, I'm used to GMod10 Lua
00:05.10OminousAntiarc: yes
00:05.18Arrowmasterthats retarded
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00:05.24AntiarcThey're changing it so that ticks are "pro-rated", so that if you're at full energy, then on the next tick, you get only a portion of the tick's energy back, based on when you used the ability
00:05.27aestili'm not exactly sure why they are doing this to rogues, is there theorycrafting behind the change?
00:05.33MoonWitchI always wanted to dabble in gmod lua
00:05.42MagnavoxIt's easy
00:05.48OminousAntiarc: wtf
00:05.48MagnavoxEvery been to Facepunch forums?
00:05.52AntiarcSo, if you open 0.2 sec before the tick, then you get time_before_tick / tick_length * tick_amount energy back
00:05.58MoonWitchyeah.. I've been there..
00:06.03AntiarcSo, 0.2 / 2.0 * 20 = 2 energy on the tick
00:06.08AntiarcSo you spend 35 and get 2 back
00:06.09MagnavoxEver see the coder Feihc?
00:06.20MoonWitchnot that I recall, been a while
00:06.24Magnavoxah
00:06.26Ominousthats shit
00:06.27AntiarcThe next tick you get the full 20, but yeah
00:06.36AntiarcIt's going to be a huge PVP nerf
00:06.44AntiarcCompletely changes our PVP cycles
00:07.04AntiarcBasically makes +10 energy required to be half as effective as we were pre-2.2
00:07.09Ominouswhat about if you have 70 energy, mutulate just before the tick to 90 energy, does that change?
00:07.16MagnavoxBut yea, if anyone thats experianced with WoW Lua could help me that would be awesome
00:07.25AntiarcNo, it's only prorated if you're at 100 energy
00:07.29Ominousok
00:07.35AntiarcOr full energy, rather
00:07.48MoonWitchMagnavox: if I knew enough, I would. but I've only started yesterday :P
00:07.50Ominousbah
00:07.56Ominousrogues nerfs FTL
00:08.09AntiarcThe DST and Warglaives needed a nerf
00:08.19aestilantiarc: they should just make energy retick in 1 second intervals,
00:08.21AntiarcInstead, the entire class is getting wrecked, likely for a couple of patches
00:08.32aestilwhat is the DST?
00:08.35AntiarcI fully expect to be highly mediocre in raids for the next couple of raids :/
00:08.39MagnavoxBuff warriors
00:08.39[dRaCo]dragonspine trophy
00:08.39AntiarcDragonspine Trophy
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00:08.50[dRaCo]which I still havent got :/
00:09.09[dRaCo]gruul on farm for a while, dropped only once
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00:09.41aestilsame for my guild.  don't think its ever dropped, we stopped doing gruul about a month ago though.
00:09.48AntiarcMy raid group has seen three. The other group has seen two, I think.
00:10.14aestilis mace/swords still overall highest dps spec for PvE?  where sword OH attacks proc Mace +5% crit attacks?
00:10.25AntiarcYou're probably thinking fist/sword
00:10.27AntiarcMace is 5% stun
00:10.35AntiarcI run dual swords and seem to do just fine
00:10.37aestiland technically, doesn't this sword spec nerf only make that spec better?
00:10.38AntiarcTalon/S2 offhand
00:10.51AntiarcRelatively better, yes
00:10.55aestiland yes, i meant fist.
00:11.00[dRaCo]combat/swords is great.
00:11.10aestilcomabt = pve, so that almost goes without saying :)
00:11.29aestilcombat fist/swords is the spec i would want to try if my rogue was a raiding character.
00:11.30[dRaCo]combat/maces is a pretty cool pvp spec
00:11.40Antiarc59 Gruul runs logged and 5 DSTs. :/
00:12.08aestilwhat i'm really cursious about, is the value of 30+dmg vs 1 more point in improved mind blast for my SP.
00:12.16aestili'm not that good at theorycraft.
00:13.06aestili am getting the S2 mace on tuesday, and have star heart lamp as offhand.  which will give me 178 hit rating, or a bit over 14% +hit.
00:13.20aestili only need 1 of 5 in shadow focus to be hit capped.
00:13.38aestili will need 2/5 if i go for the heroic OH which has around 30 more spell dmg on it, and no hit rating.
00:13.47Arrowmasterdiaf
00:14.00Arrowmasteri hate all shadowpriests because of that stupid ass talent
00:14.09aestillocks have it too?
00:14.15Arrowmasterno
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00:14.18Arrowmasterours sucks ass
00:14.31aestili hate all locks because of life tap and wincoil?
00:14.56aestilwhy hate on shadow priests, your friendly neighborhood mana batteries.
00:14.58Magnavoxwould I send a yell through DEFAULT_CHAT_FRAME:AddMessage() ?
00:15.03aestili get love letters from mana users of my guild.
00:15.11Arrowmasterhehe people bitched about me complaining about using mana pots on hydross the other week
00:15.22AntiarcMagnavox: No, look at SendChatMessage()
00:15.29aestilon 'progression' raids i'm using like 20 + pots.
00:15.31Magnavoxis there a wiki for functions?
00:15.35Antiarcwowwiki.com
00:15.40Antiarchttp://www.wowwiki.com/World_of_Warcraft_API
00:16.16aestili'm sure the +dmg of the heroic OH is better than an extra pt in imp MB
00:16.40aestilbut thats many heroic tokens away.  only have 20, working on the 41 needed for the +dmg trinket of uber sexyness.
00:18.39aestilI'm so sick of eepanels2 and levels /strata
00:18.57aestilfully half the time i log in and my panels are blocking some frames, and not others.
00:19.17ckknightAntiarc: guildies want me to make a DoT addon that doesn't suck
00:19.28TNSe:P
00:19.33MagnavoxDoes GetPlayerBuffName(1) target yourself?
00:19.39Antiarcckknight: The DoTimer author just updated it, so tell them to check it out
00:19.59AntiarcMagnavox: If the function contains "player", it's likely you, yes
00:20.10Magnavox=/ I'm writing a fresh code
00:20.14MagnavoxI dont know how to even start
00:20.31AntiarcMagnavox: You might try the WelcomeHome addon first
00:20.36AntiarcThat'll give you a feel for the structure
00:20.40aestilseems like quartz module's could be made to be a dot addon that doesn't suck.
00:20.41MagnavoxI would think it to pretty simple, I'm just checking for a buff and if I have that buff, then yell something
00:20.45Antiarchttp://www.wowace.com/wiki/WelcomeHome_-_Your_first_Ace2_Addon
00:21.24AntiarcMagnavox: At the most basic, you need to create a frame, register the proper aura change event to the frame, set up an event handler that checks your buffs on buff change, and then SendChatMessage if you pick up the buff you're watching
00:22.23aestilis there a place to make sure that eepanels2 loads last, and therefore ensures that any parents that its going to attach to are present before eepanels2 creats the panels.
00:22.24MagnavoxDo you have Gobby Antiarc?
00:22.30AntiarcI have no clue what that is
00:22.38MagnavoxMulti-player notepad
00:22.39Magnavoxbasically
00:22.41AntiarcNope
00:22.46MagnavoxDang
00:22.54MagnavoxCause I'm still very confused
00:23.01AntiarcDo the WelcomeHome addon I linked up there
00:23.08AntiarcThat'll get your feet wet with wow addons and events and stuff.
00:23.14ag`bitte sehr Pingo
00:23.17ag`woops
00:24.44MagnavoxOK yea i cant even follow this, why do we need a database for one addon?
00:24.56MagnavoxIt should only have to be one file I would think
00:25.08*** part/#wowace Cyerie (n=chatzill@user-69-1-34-41.knology.net)
00:25.19AntiarcThat's for localization - just an example of how to do it.
00:25.49AntiarcThe "database" is just a table of string translations
00:26.09MagnavoxAnd this is all for Ace2 addons
00:26.25MagnavoxCant you just make an addon that you can toggle with a /command?
00:26.53AntiarcSure, you can
00:27.19Antiarchttp://www.wowwiki.com/AddOns
00:27.45aestilbump my question about making eepanels2 load last.
00:27.47CIA-2203ckknight * r48946 10LibRockConfig-1.0/LibRockConfig-1.0.lua: LibRockConfig-1.0 - make child_passValue and similar situations work properly. (zomg, this makes things freaky simple).
00:27.53baer_ckknight: ping?
00:27.55Magnavoxugh, reading long paragraphs with a 22" widescreen is annoying lol
00:27.59ckknightbaer_: pong
00:28.05Antiarcaestil: You could edit the TOC and add your other mods as dependencies, so that eepanels only loads after they're loaded
00:28.27aestilis there a way to get a quick print list of all my other addons?
00:28.32aestillike with bugcatcher or something?
00:29.03AntiarcLog out and lookat the addons menu? :)
00:29.05AntiarcOr use ACP
00:29.09aestili have acp.
00:29.13AntiarcThen just /acp
00:29.15AntiarcAnd there's your lost
00:29.18Antiarclist, even
00:29.46aestilthats a long list of addons, i could have sworn i've seen a list of running mods when i get various errors.
00:30.07aestili suppose i can just list the few mods that are giving me problems.  grid/pitbull/squeenix
00:30.16Arrowmasteryou use swatter?
00:30.18Arrowmastereww
00:30.30aestilno, used to though, that must have been the mod.
00:31.17aestilcan i change the .toc in game, and then /rl?  or do i need to close wow out?
00:31.31ckknightnah, close WoW
00:31.41Magnavoxyea I still cant get this Antiarc
00:31.41ckknightthough I'm not 100% sure about that
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00:31.54AntiarcYou shouldn't need to close WoW if you're just changing dependencies. I think.
00:32.09AntiarcAssuming the deps line already exists
00:32.14AntiarcIf not you may need to restart
00:32.26AntiarcMy rule of thumb is "If adding ## lines, restart"
00:33.07Antiarc"Choi Wang mailed in MaxConsole to reveal that a Norwegian game shop called Expert today sold at least two copies of Halo 3 to the public, he added a picture with a gamer with the retail box in hand and the Halo 3 menu displayed on his TV in the background."
00:33.41Arrowmasterlol
00:34.50Arrowmaster11 more days till i can get mine
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00:36.42MagnavoxAntiarc, I PMed you
00:37.24ckknightAntiarc: actually, if you change metadata, I think you have to restart as well
00:37.24AntiarcYou need to identify - queries don't go through otherwise, Magnavox
00:37.24Antiarc(I didn't get it)
00:37.24MagnavoxHuh?
00:37.32MagnavoxWoW Lua ~= GMod Lua in ANY sense
00:37.50AntiarcOn the IRC network.
00:37.55AntiarcYou need to register your nick and identify
00:38.01AntiarcOtherwise, your PMs don't go through.
00:38.10MagnavoxOh
00:38.19hyperChipmunkAntiarc: s/IRC/freenode/
00:38.22aestilso I add the mods I want to load first in the optdepss part of the .loc?
00:38.28AntiarchyperChipmunk: Well, I meant this IRC network
00:38.31AntiarcSince it's the one we're on :P
00:38.37Antiarcaestil: Yeah
00:38.46MagnavoxDo I need to declare the addon name for use with the _OnLoad functions?
00:38.47Arrowmasterumm is this page empty for anybody else http://www.bestbuy.com/site//olspage.jsp?id=pcmcat132100050004&type=category
00:39.02Antiarcyes, Arrowmaster
00:39.06Arrowmastergrr
00:39.08AntiarcMagnavox: not sure I understand
00:39.16ckknightMagnavox: ick, OnLoad XML stuff is horrid
00:39.21aestilif i write protect that file, will it prevent the WAU from changing it if eepanels2 updates?
00:39.22hyperChipmunkArrowmaster: mostly
00:39.26hyperChipmunkno content
00:39.26MagnavoxLike what would my first line be?
00:39.31MagnavoxHow do I START the code?
00:39.33Arrowmastertrying to find out if the bestbuy i preordered halo3 from will be open at midnight
00:39.35Antiarcaestil: No, the whole directory gets nuked and overridden
00:39.40ckknightMagnavox: read the WelcomeHome tutorial?
00:39.46MagnavoxYea but I dont get it
00:40.04aestilkk.  thanks guys.
00:41.38MagnavoxAnd that uses Ace Libraries, which I dont want to use
00:41.54sbhm [02:13:06] <aestil> i am getting the S2 mace on tuesday, and have star heart lamp as offhand
00:42.04sbaestil: heroic reward offhand?
00:42.11sbits much better? :p
00:42.26aestilsb: thats the question, i will have to have 2 pts in shadow focus, vs 1.
00:42.34sbmhhh
00:42.40aestilis the extra spell dmg > than .5 seconds of imp MB cooldown.
00:42.54sbmhh
00:43.16sbi think there are other things to remove from your talent tree?
00:43.22CIA-2203funkydude * r48947 10LightQueue/LightQueue.toc: LightQueue: ## X-Category: Battlegrounds/PvP
00:43.25sbimp fade e.g.?
00:43.30Arrowmasteri crafted a belt of blasting for a guild shadowpriest the other night and hes droping to 3/5 shadow focus
00:43.43aestilno.  i don't have imp fade, i don't have imp PS, i don't have silence.
00:43.48sbmhhh
00:43.51sbwhere are your points then? :P
00:43.55aestili have the most PvE raiding carebear spec in the world.
00:43.56sbor lvl 50? :P
00:44.03sbhmm show me :)
00:44.04aestilwowarmory aestil
00:44.15sbserver?
00:44.17AntiarcMagnavox: Take a look at http://wow.tachyonsix.com/TootsiePop/TootsiePop.toc and http://wow.tachyonsix.com/TootsiePop/TootsiePop.lua
00:44.19aestildarkspear <the church>
00:44.20sbah
00:44.20AntiarcThat's basically an addon
00:44.45sb!c eu darkspear aestil
00:44.46ThraeBotsb: aestil is not the character you are looking for!
00:44.51sb!c us darkspear aestil
00:44.54ThraeBotsb: Aestil, Level 70 Dwarf Priest (19/0/42). 8111 HP; 9390 Mana; 164 mana regen; 33 mp5; 80 spell crit; 148 spell hit; 794 +spell dmg/heal; 59 shadow dmg (853); 4.82% dodge; 10 frost resist (+10);[[ TBR: 967 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/2bstrt ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/2mgyd8 ][ Updated: Fri Sep 14 20:57:50 2007 EST ]]
00:44.56AntiarcIt's similar to what you're trying to do - it handles events and can run whatever code to respond to them
00:45.03CIA-2203funkydude * r48948 10FreeMe/FreeMe.toc: FreeMe: ## X-Category: Buffs
00:45.28sbmhh mental agility... nice idea (dots and stuff)
00:45.31aestilantiarc/ckknight: it worked, [apprarently] but now, i'm running into another problem. my eepanels parented to gridlayoutpanel aren't resizing when grid reszies.
00:45.40aestilwell, mostly SW:P and SW:D
00:45.44Antiarcaestil: Dunno how to help you there
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00:45.56aestilok.
00:46.00Magnavoxdo the .toc files go in the same folder as the .lua?
00:46.04ckknightaestil: dunno how to help you
00:46.11aestilkk.  i'll figure it out later.
00:46.14sbah okay
00:46.15ckknightMagnavox: only 1 .toc file, same name as the folder
00:46.29sbtoo much disc for me ;o
00:46.35aestilsb: anyways i'll have 1060 +dmg on tuesday with enchant and the star heart lamp
00:46.37sbdo you really need martyrdom?
00:46.41Arrowmasteryour not a fail shadowpriest like the one i made the belt of blasting for are you? now when SW:D crits it does 2/3s of his hp
00:46.49aestilsb: need? to get down farther in the tree, yes.
00:46.58sbmh right
00:47.09aestilarrowmaster: i have belt off lurker
00:47.14aestilscreaming terror or something
00:47.16Arrowmasterme too =D
00:47.41Arrowmasterand ive got atleast 2k more hp raid buffed than him
00:47.45aestili will have 178 +hit.  I'm trying to figure out if star heart lamp's 12 + hit are worth keeping over orb of soulcallers +29 or so more dmg.
00:48.04aestili'm around 10k health raid buff.  not a tailor, don't have FSW/SS
00:48.41SkyboatSPs only need 6% +hit IIRC so should be easy to max it out, then focus on +damage
00:49.28aestilyou only need 6% from gear, if you want to spend 5 talents in +hit talents
00:49.42aestilsince the best gear available to me has alot of +hit on it, thats a good plan.
00:49.42MagnavoxSo Antiarc, CHAT_MSG_CHANNEL_JOIN event, would that be called when another player joins a channel?
00:49.47AntiarcCorrect
00:49.53AntiarcOr rather, it's fired.
00:50.08AntiarcA full list of events may be found at... http://www.wowwiki.com/Events_%28API%29
00:50.09MagnavoxOK, is there one of those for when you get a buff?
00:50.32AntiarcLikely :)
00:50.36AntiarcGo dig in that list
00:50.40*** join/#wowace Jaxon (n=Jackson@S01060017f2092837.ed.shawcable.net)
00:50.40AntiarcLook for aura stuff
00:50.47Antiarcbuffs/debuffs are internally known as auras
00:51.33MagnavoxI dont get why all of these start with CHAT_MSG_
00:51.53AntiarcIf it shows up in the chat or combat log, it starts with CHAT_MSG_
00:52.03Arrowmasterbecause theyre used for showing stuff in the chat frames
00:52.09AntiarcTry PLAYER_AURAS_CHANGED
00:52.22MagnavoxOK, I'm trying to see if a player GAINS the buff Fecundity
00:52.41ag`<PROTECTED>
00:52.48ag`:D
00:52.57AntiarcYou'll need to watch PLAYER_AURAS_CHANGED
00:53.10AntiarcAnd maintain a variable indicating whether the player has the buff or not
00:53.15AntiarcAnd when it changes to true, do the yell
00:54.17Arrowmasterwhere does the buff Fecundity come from?
00:54.39AntiarcThe Ribbon of Sacrifice
00:54.45AntiarcDrops from the opera event in Kara
00:55.04MagnavoxYup
00:55.08MagnavoxWe have a guild joke
00:55.12Arrowmastergets applied to other people so hes trying to check when he gains it from somebody else
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00:55.16MagnavoxWhenever we get that, we yell "Not in the face!"
00:55.24Magnavoxlazy people want that automatically yelled
00:55.24Magnavoxlol
00:55.45*** join/#wowace Corey (i=Corey@unaffiliated/corey)
00:55.52kenlyricyou mean efficient.
00:55.56kenlyricefficient people
00:55.59MagnavoxHeh
00:56.16Arrowmasterwhats the combat log say when you gain the buff?
00:56.18MagnavoxOK, so I have the event handler, and if the event = PLAYER_AURA_CHANGED
00:56.26Magnavoxhow do I check to see if that buff is Fecundity?
00:56.50kenlyricjust a reminder, lazy people don't want to do anything. efficient people work hard so they don't have to do anything.
00:57.07MagnavoxHehehe
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00:57.31PellosHello
00:58.29Arrowmasteri would just check CHAT_MSG_SPELL_PERIODIC_SELF_BUFFS for "You gain Fecundity."
00:58.43charongoodnight guys
00:58.56PellosIm having some trouble updating my Omen addon, anyone here that can help me?
00:59.17MagnavoxOK so I have a loop, going 1-16 for the buff slots
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00:59.26PellosI have tried just deleting the folder and replacing it with an updated one but I still get the same version number
00:59.29Arrowmastertheres more than 16 buff slots
00:59.30aestilfiles.wowace.com/omen/
00:59.32Magnavoxlocal name, rank = GetPlayerBuffName(i, or "name"[,"rank"])
00:59.38MagnavoxI know but chances are you wont have that many
00:59.46Arrowmastertoo complex
00:59.56Magnavoxif name == "Fecundity" then playerHasBuff = true
00:59.58Arrowmasterjust check CHAT_MSG_SPELL_PERIODIC_SELF_BUFFS for "You gain Fecundity."
01:00.18MagnavoxHow do I check that message?
01:00.27Magnavoxif event = "CHAT_MSG_SPELL_PERIODIC_SELF_BUFFS" then
01:00.31Magnavoxerm ==
01:00.47Arrowmasterif your only registering one event then you dont need to bother with that
01:01.06Arrowmasterif arg1 == "You gain Fecundity." then
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01:01.11Magnavoxah ok
01:01.11sbmhh
01:01.16sbare tehre any TrinketMenu alternatives?
01:01.18MagnavoxI wasnt sure what the check for it was
01:01.26PellosYes aestil, that is where I downloaded the latest version of omen. But still my addon says im using 45044
01:01.30sbsomething with direkt keybinding to trinkets and stuff?
01:01.41Arrowmasterim perty sure that will work, but since i dont know exactly what shows up in the combat log i dont know
01:01.56Gngsksb, you can do that with spellbinder using macros and item keybindings
01:02.04sbmhyes
01:02.14hyperChipmunkyea, well, it was the style he was asking about
01:02.15hyperChipmunkmis
01:02.28sbbut i want 2 nice icons showing me equipped trinkets + mouseover to switch
01:03.40MagnavoxOK, lets see if this works
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01:05.29MagnavoxDoes WoW have draw functions? Like can you place text on the screen in relation to another player?
01:06.20AntiarcYou can't get info on others positions on screen, no
01:06.31MagnavoxNot what i meant
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01:07.05Arrowmasterlocal f = CreateFrame(); f:RegisterEvent("CHAT_MSG_SPELL_PERIODIC_SELF_BUFFS"); f:SetScript("OnEvent", function() if arg1 == "You gain Fecundity." then SendChatMessage("Not in the face!", "YELL") end end)
01:07.12Arrowmasterlook ma only one line
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01:10.39Magnavoxhow do i reload the script without restarting WOW?
01:11.07Arrowmaster<PROTECTED>
01:13.10Magnavoxnot working
01:14.11AntiarcAny of the WAU devs here?
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01:15.47Skyboat/rl also works if you have Ace2 loaded
01:16.08Magnavoxcan you use wildcards in string checks?
01:16.25Skyboatif you regex it, sure
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01:17.40Kaeltenso whats the verdict on files?
01:19.11Arrowmasterwhy do you need wildcards
01:19.43WhinewhisperKaelten nice except for the alternatate row color
01:19.53NeeblerI'm curious why nearly half of the addon show as being updated <1 minute ago
01:19.58aestili like the alternate row color
01:20.08KaeltenNeebler: its base don file ctime
01:20.55Whinewhisperwould be nice if the alternate row-colour was a bit more easy on the eyes
01:21.00Whinewhispera much lighter colour with less contrast
01:21.11Neeblerhmm I agree
01:21.28AntiarcKaelten: I have a bunch of guildies that are having massive problems with the latest WAU
01:21.35AntiarcCrashes, it not updating things, etc
01:21.41Kaeltenhrm
01:21.56KaeltenWhinewhisper: it was lighter but people where having a hard time reading it :(
01:22.01KaeltenAntiarc bug sylvanaar?
01:22.07AntiarcWill do
01:22.11Whinewhisperreading?
01:22.14Whinewhisperi mean the background colour
01:22.20Whinewhisperfor alternating between every second row
01:22.26Whinewhisperjust make it a very light blue or something
01:22.30Whinewhisperso you can differentiate that it's the next line
01:22.36Whinewhisperbut not make it smack you in the face like a prisonsuit
01:22.52sylvanaarwhat
01:23.15Antiarcsylvanaar: Guildies experiencing crashes with the latest WAU stuff
01:23.22Antiarcand/or not-updates
01:23.28AntiarcAny specific info I can get for you?
01:23.29sylvanaarif they are running 1.9.43 you are fired
01:23.42AntiarcThey're using 1.8.x now
01:23.42Neeblerkaelten: requesting a "download count" section for files.wowace.com
01:23.44AntiarcBut I dunno
01:23.46sylvanaarlol
01:23.47sylvanaarok
01:23.53sylvanaarunsupported
01:24.15aestilckknight: why does pitbull not show you as alive after rezing from a TK instance?
01:24.21Neeblerwould be nice to see for people who are new to files.wowace.com. to see the 'must have' addons
01:24.24ckknight<PROTECTED>
01:24.34ckknightI don't know the event that fires when you rez there
01:24.36ckknightit's not normal
01:24.40Antiarcckknight: PLAYER_ALIVE likely
01:24.45ckknightit's not
01:24.48ckknightafaik
01:24.49AntiarcI can go test it sometime if you want to fix it
01:24.52Skyboatdefault unit frames works fine though iirc :x
01:24.59ckknightAntiarc: that'd be cool
01:25.11Skyboatbets on Blizzard adding ugly hacks to make theirs work :p
01:25.26Antiarcckknight: You realize that I'm gonna need 10g to cover the death repair costs. <_<
01:25.36Gngskjust get naked
01:25.37[dRaCo]die naked? :>
01:25.43AntiarcI have like, negative inventory space
01:25.43ckknightAntiarc: :-P
01:25.55ckknightdo more dailies
01:25.56Gngskl2primalmoonclothbag
01:26.16AntiarcI'm all about the imbued netherweaves
01:26.19Arrowmasterblizz probably checks on player_entering_world or something in their ui
01:26.53Gngskweaksauce, farm some cloth, arcane dust, primals and find some guildies who don't use their cloth timers
01:27.07Skyboatgonna check patchfile for lua source
01:31.54SkyboatOnUpdates </3
01:32.33Arrowmasterunthrottled too i bet
01:33.17Skyboatdidn't get to check
01:33.53Arrowmasteri bet if we ask sloukun could make then change it so PLAYER_ALIVE gets fired sometime after PLAYER_ENTERING_WORLD when releasing from TK instances
01:34.03CIA-2203ckknight * r48949 10LibRockConfig-1.0/LibRockConfig-1.0.lua: LibRockConfig-1.0 - make :RefreshConfigMenu work and update lazily.
01:34.25Antiarcckknight: TK event incoming :P
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01:35.18Antiarcckknight: PLAYER_UNGHOST
01:35.27Arrowmasterlol
01:35.29Antiarcand PLAYER_ENTERING_WORLD
01:35.43RogueShadowhaha.   uhghost
01:35.48RogueShadowunghost...
01:36.07ArrowmasterPLAYER_ALIVE vs PLAYER_UNGHOST .........
01:36.08Skyboatawesome name for an event imo :p
01:36.22Arrowmastergee i wonder what the difference is
01:36.35AntiarcYou owe me 1s34c
01:36.44Arrowmasterrofl
01:36.52Arrowmastergo ninja a mech chest
01:36.54ckknightAntiarc: any arguments?
01:36.56AntiarcNope
01:36.57ckknighte.g. "player"?
01:36.58ckknightokay
01:37.09AntiarcPLAYER_UNGHOST is specifically the player, I believe
01:37.44Seerah_since I just tuned in.... is PLAYER_UNGHOST an actual event? :P
01:37.50Antiarcyes
01:37.56Seerah_:)
01:37.56Arrowmasterfrom wowwiki
01:38.00AntiarcIt happens when you retrieve your corpse via corpse run, I believe
01:38.03AntiarcAnd also when you rez from TKE
01:38.06Seerah_ahh
01:38.09Arrowmaster"PLAYER_ALIVE" Does not fire when the player is alive after being a ghost. PLAYER_UNGHOST is triggered in that case.
01:38.10AntiarcBut there's no PLAYER_ALIVE when you rez from TKE
01:38.25Seerah_why have both?
01:38.38AntiarcPLAYER_ALIVE happens when you accept a rez from another player
01:38.51Seerah_okay
01:38.53AntiarcOr when you zone back into an instance after a corpse run
01:39.00Arrowmaster"PLAYER_UNGHOST" The player is alive when this event happens. Does not fire when the player is resurrected before releasing. PLAYER_ALIVE is triggered in that case.
01:39.09Arrowmasterhttp://www.wowwiki.com/Events/Death
01:39.55CIA-2203ckknight 07Rock * r48950 10PitBull/PitBull/PitBull.lua: PitBull - possibly fix issues with exiting TK and health not showing up properly
01:39.55Seerah_what if you've released and then have been rezzed?
01:39.58ckknightokay
01:40.02ckknightthat might fix things
01:40.21ArrowmasterSeerah_: thats unghost too i think, check http://www.wowwiki.com/Events/Death
01:40.37Seerah_yeah, was typing when you linked, gonna look now
01:41.03Arrowmasterckknight: not back porting to ace2 version?
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01:41.16ckknightno, the Rock one will become trunk soon enough
01:41.29Seerah_arrowmaster: yep, unghost
01:41.40Seerah_"Accepting a resurrect from another player after releasing from a death."
01:42.19sbmh ckknight - i have no idea if it is an parser 4 + older parser issue, but i experienced some _bad_ lags on every pitbull event (heal, notification, etc.)
01:42.28sbi think ~1.5w ago
01:42.37ckknightweird...
01:42.38sb(yes, thats week)
01:42.49sb1fps on every heal and stuff :o
01:42.49ckknightLibParser-4.0 overwrites Parser-3.0
01:42.58Kaydeethreenew PTR push! latest build: 7261. diffs @ http://spyglass-server.com/wowints/
01:43.28ckknightsb: any errors
01:43.31ckknight?
01:43.31sbno
01:43.38Funkeh``nn folks
01:43.50sbgonna test tomorrow if that problem still exists
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01:44.09Seerah_nn funkeh :D
01:44.15sbbut if you didnt fix stuff - it should still be there ;p
01:44.16Funkeh``Seerah_: !
01:44.18Funkeh``on irc!
01:44.21Funkeh``woah!
01:44.26Seerah_I come on from time to time ;)
01:44.35Funkeh``Lemme absord the moment before I log off.
01:44.55Funkeh``nn ;p
01:44.58Seerah_night
01:47.46sbmh is voice chat already in sRF and pitbull? ;o
01:48.50FrostByghtewith pitbull I cannot seem to make the cast bar totally solid, I always see the worldview a bit behind it.  I set both the cast bar and frame back ground to black and opacity...any ideas?
01:49.39FrostByghtethis is in the party frame btw
01:49.42ckknightif you set the opacity to 100%, it should be fine...
01:50.04FrostByghteI did :(
01:50.10Antiarcckknight: Possible parsing thing, though it might just be the combat log strings problem
01:50.20AntiarcFighting a mob named "Death's Might"
01:50.27AntiarcHe hits me and I see -153 (Death) in Parrot
01:50.29Magnavox-.- it's not recognizing "You gain Fecundity."
01:50.38ckknighthrm
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01:50.48ckknightyea, it's the combat log strings.
01:51.10FrostByghteunder global settings, colors, cast bar...I set both the cast bar and the frame background to black 100% and still see through the bar a bit
01:51.12ckknightI could fix the log strings, but then people bitch at me
01:51.17AntiarcME included :)
01:51.30ckknightwhy you?
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01:51.51AntiarcOmen
01:51.58JoshBorkewarning
01:52.04sylvanaaromen begs for omen 2 and 3
01:52.09ckknightyea, and if I were to fix em in Parser, it'd be fixed in Omen vicariously
01:52.31FrostByghteoh hell
01:52.36FrostByghteit's that damn range thing
01:52.37ckknight?
01:52.37Antiarc2.4 will see Threat-1.1
01:52.56sylvanaarit needs the damian sound for when you get threat
01:53.18kenlyric<PROTECTED>
01:53.25AntiarcJust add it to sharedmedia
01:53.29AntiarcAnd it'll be available
01:54.16sylvanaaryes, i know how to do it.
01:56.03sbwtb spiderpig sound :/
02:00.58kenlyricshould pop up when you enter the spider zone in northrend.
02:02.17CIA-2203ckknight * r48952 10LibRock-1.0/LibRock-1.0.lua: LibRock-1.0 - add :GetLocalizedCategory("name")
02:02.42CIA-2203ckknight 07Rock * r48953 10FuBar/FuBar/FuBar.lua: FuBar - use Rock's :GetLocalizedCategory instead of AceAddon-2.0's
02:03.27ckknightFuBar is now fully Rock, depends on no Ace2 stuff
02:03.46Olisonis pitbull, btw?
02:03.52ckknightyea
02:04.00ckknightwell, PitBull relies on some Ace2 stuff
02:04.01Olisonmmm i see.
02:04.03ckknighte.g. Threat-1.0
02:04.08Olisonah yeah
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02:05.18sbckknight: mhh so with ace3 and rock i'm going to have a lot of redundant code, right (which isnt really redundant because it doesnt work together)? :p
02:05.30ckknightthey sorta work together
02:05.34ckknighttheoretically, at least
02:05.38ckknight*shrug*
02:05.51ckknightno addons use Ace3, so there's nothing to gauge by
02:05.51aestilif fubar is fully rock, than are you pushing them all tonight?
02:06.18ckknightmaybe not tonight
02:06.21ckknightprobably tomorrow
02:06.40sbi dont care if there are no incompatibilites ;) (resulting in performance break-in and stuff)
02:06.49sbckknight: well - not yet :p
02:07.12aestilckknight: you should push them all as 'alternate' mods for large scale beta test first.
02:07.27aestilbefore you go and piss someonoe off that doesn't know what the hell they are getting themselves into.
02:07.42JoshBorkeaestil: they are updating from the wowace site, they should know better by now ;-)
02:07.54ckknightJoshBorke is kinda right about that
02:07.56aestilwill without externals and 'auto' dependecy download work with WAU ckknigt?
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02:08.03ckknighteither way, aestil, that's what branches are for
02:08.14ckknightaestil: that's the theory I'm going with currently
02:10.22ckknightthinking I'm gonna rename LibRockConsole's :AddChatCommand to :AddSlashCommand
02:10.30ckknightseeing as that's what everyone refers to them as
02:10.57AntiarcI'd agree with that change
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02:11.29sboh right ckknight, some suggestion for rock config
02:11.33aestilwell, if nothing is supposed to break, and you push them across i look forward to messing with the new stuff.
02:11.38ckknightsb: yea?
02:12.05sbif you use mouse-wheel to scroll down (right side) - and accidently hover some slider - bad things happen :/
02:12.47sbi know its the idea of sliders that you can use mouse wheel to 'slide' them
02:13.13sbbut you dont expect it to do that if you want to scroll down in that window :o
02:13.18CIA-2203ckknight * r48954 10LibRockConsole-1.0/LibRockConsole-1.0.lua:
02:13.18CIA-22LibRockConsole-1.0 - rename :AddChatCommand => :AddSlashCommand
02:13.18CIA-22- :RemoveChatCommand => :RemoveSlashCommand
02:13.18CIA-22- :HasChatCommand => :HasSlashCommand
02:13.18CIA-22- :RemoveAllChatCommands => :RemoveAllSlashCommands
02:13.19CIA-22Backwards incompatible change.
02:13.32ckknightsb: hrm...
02:13.36ckknightsb: not sure how to approach that
02:13.47sbmh yes.. i also have no idea how to solve that :o
02:13.57sbits 'correct' to slide
02:14.22CIA-2203ckknight 07Rock * r48955 10Cartographer/Cartographer/ (2 files in 2 dirs): Cartographer - fix for LibRockConsole-1.0 rename
02:14.25sbbut since you cant revert the state of your slider - things get changed and you have no idea what the previous value was :o
02:15.29ckknightperhaps I can add in a hack...
02:15.50ckknighte.g. if you've slid the window in the past second, then don't slide the control
02:16.08Antiarcckknight: Massive bug in Cartographer
02:16.13ckknightoh?
02:16.27AntiarcIt won't tell me how long till I get to my waypoint when I'm headed in the opposite direction
02:16.28AntiarcFix plz
02:16.34ckknight...
02:16.39ckknightforevers.
02:16.45Antiarc*** != forevers
02:16.47ckknightbtw, what do you think of :SetSlashCommandForConfig(...)? (inherited from LibRockConfig-1.0)
02:16.54ckknightjust the name, I mean
02:16.54AntiarcVerbose as hell
02:17.00ckknightany recommendations?
02:17.01AntiarcSetConfigSlashCommand
02:17.10ckknightworks for me.
02:17.30Wobin_What should I name a ghostsabre cat pet?
02:17.31sbmh okay, testing 'new' parrot tomorrow, but need some sleep now, nn
02:17.40AntiarcWobin_: Whatever your MT is named
02:17.51aestilyes, thats always a funny joke.
02:17.58AntiarcIt does fun things with threat meters
02:18.05aestiluntil you take that pet in a raid, and you break wws.
02:18.12Antiarcprecisely
02:18.27aestili'm not too sure about you now antiarc.
02:18.33Antiarcrawr
02:19.01aestilfirst you developed threat, and i thought, he's not too bad, but now you're advocating making me pull my hair out when the GM is all pissed off that the MT is showing as a hunter pet.
02:19.08aestilfail.
02:19.26JoshBorkeAntiarc: how confident are you that there are no bugs left in threat?
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02:19.42AntiarcJoshBorke: Not at all :P
02:19.46AntiarcBut the major ones are long gone
02:19.50AntiarcIt is very usable
02:20.05Wobin_I should name it after the main healer
02:20.16JoshBorkeAntiarc: k, i haven't updated it in a while
02:20.16AntiarcWobin_: Name it after your threat-iest rogue
02:20.17Wobin_so it's like "OMG you got outdamaged by the healer!"
02:20.27ckknightI like Wobin_'s idea
02:20.30Wobin_"Getcher game up!"
02:20.38AntiarcI wish that invul pots still worked so I could just jump the elevator in SSC
02:20.48aestilis 41xxx of omen ALOT older than 48xxx omen?
02:21.03AntiarcYes
02:21.05AntiarcLike 30 years
02:21.06aestilspecifically, is that before you changed the priority of the comm message?
02:21.09AntiarcYes
02:21.11AntiarcLike 29 years
02:21.12aestilkk.
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02:21.41aestilthat woudl explain the feral druid being last on threat while he tanked heroic mech
02:22.36JoshBorkehm, i'm using version 45747, how old is that?
02:22.46AntiarcOmen or Threat?
02:23.04JoshBorkethreat
02:23.07AntiarcOmen's at 45044, Threat at 48945
02:26.44CIA-2203ckknight * r48956 10LibRockConfig-1.0/LibRockConfig-1.0.lua:
02:26.44CIA-22LibRockConfig-1.0 - ROCK-2
02:26.44CIA-22- add :SetConfigSlashCommand(...)
02:26.53CIA-2203ckknight 07Rock * r48957 10FuBar/FuBar/FuBar.lua: FuBar - add slash commands to open config menu.
02:27.52CIA-2203ckknight 07Rock * r48958 10Cartographer/Cartographer/Cartographer.lua: Cartographer - add slash commands to open config menu.
02:30.29AntiarcHey, I have a mod idea
02:30.38AntiarcI'd like a mod that records item cooldowns and adds them to the tooltip
02:30.45AntiarcLike, the max cooldown time, not remaining
02:31.09JoshBorkenot a bad idea
02:31.35CIA-2203ckknight 07Rock * r48959 10PitBull/PitBull/PitBull.lua: PitBull - use :SetConfigSlashCommand instead of doing it manually through LibRockConsole-1.0
02:32.33CIA-2203ckknight 07Rock * r48960 10CowTip/CowTip/CowTip.lua: CowTip - use :SetConfigSlashCommand instead of doing it manually through LibRockConsole-1.0
02:32.57CIA-2203ckknight 07Rock * r48961 10Parrot/Parrot/Code/Parrot.lua: Parrot - use :SetConfigSlashCommand instead of doing it manually through LibRockConsole-1.0
02:33.10JoshBorkecould you not do it all at once ckknight? :-P
02:33.18AntiarcOne addon per commit
02:33.20AntiarcSVN policy
02:33.29JoshBorke:-/
02:33.30ckknightyep, SVN policy
02:33.32JoshBorkedumb policy
02:33.37ckknightoh, I agree
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02:35.13ckknightthat was rather brash
02:35.23Kaeltenlol, he'll know I'm joking with him
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02:35.35JoshBorkei'll show you!
02:35.36JoshBorke:-P
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02:36.15JoshBorke:-P
02:36.22Kaeltendamn flies
02:36.23Kaelten:P
02:36.42JoshBorkeholy shit, ads on files
02:36.43JoshBorkewoot
02:36.53Kaeltenlol
02:36.54JoshBorkedo they get counted separate?
02:37.21JoshBorkewhatever, they all pop over and load quickly
02:38.03Kaeltenya they load in iframes to keep the pages fast
02:38.10KaeltenI'll be moving the whole site to them
02:38.19Kaeltenso that no more waiting on adserver bullshit
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02:38.48CIA-2203ckknight * r48962 10LibRockEvent-1.0/LibRockEvent-1.0.lua: LibRockEvent-1.0 - remove the once argument to :AddEventListener, seeing as nobody really uses it and it slows things down.
02:39.14JoshBorkehm, i don't see the letter filtering...
02:40.05Kaeltenmonday :P
02:40.11JoshBorkeDO IT NOW!
02:40.18Kaeltenbuy me dinner!
02:40.27KaeltenI don't eat that
02:40.28JoshBorke~moon Kaelten
02:40.28purlACTION sends Kaelten to the moon on a frisbee.
02:40.33Kaydeethreewhoa now... just what stage are you two at?
02:40.36Kaeltenwoot can't bug me here!
02:40.37JoshBorkebehold!  the power of cheese!
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02:46.53Kaeltengo surf files and find new addons ! :P
02:47.24pr0ph3t-does anyone know a good alternative for oCB? cause I guess it's not being updated anymore?
02:47.40JoshBorkei use quartz, but it's a little heavy
02:49.14pr0ph3t-alright, are there no ace2 casting bars? cause everything i run is ace2.. and I don't feel like browsing through wowaceupdater D:
02:49.31JoshBorkequartz i believe is the only one
02:49.41JoshBorkeand on that note, good night
02:49.47pr0ph3t-night
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02:51.54Shirikpr0ph3t-: (1) any reason it has to be ace? (2) quartz is god
02:52.19hyperChipmunkwtf is wrong w/ quartz
02:52.24Shirikit's god?
02:52.31Shirikthat's a good thing
02:54.29pr0ph3t-I denno lol, josh said it was heavy, and I don't like what ;<
02:55.00hyperChipmunkwhatever; quartz rules
02:55.06hyperChipmunkdon't knock it until you've tried it
02:57.19liquidzooI use AzCastBar, and eCastingBar before that
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03:03.02KemayoKaelten: The ad on the right overlaps the table.
03:04.35Kemayo...and the one at the top overlaps the title.
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03:06.18Seerah_(I can't see ads) Looks great, Kaelten :)
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03:11.22aestilquartz is easily the best casting bar available right now.
03:11.38aestiland since its modular to the umpteenth degree, if you don't need/want a feature, you don't have to use it.
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03:20.23KaeltenKemayo: you must be on a very small resolution
03:23.00ckknightKaelten: issue with LibStub
03:23.12Kaelten?
03:23.16ckknighttonumber(strmatch(-1, "%d+")) == 1
03:23.20ckknightit gets rid of the negative
03:23.23ckknightwhich is bad for me
03:23.39ckknightfor minor version thing
03:23.57Kaeltenwhy not user 0 ?
03:23.57Shirikyou have negatives in your versions?
03:24.04ckknightpossibilities to remedy: check type first or tonumber(strmatch(-1, "%-?%d+"))
03:24.30Kaeltenjust trying to figure out why you'd have a negative version number
03:24.34ckknightyea, it's so that when I finally get one svn per project, the revision number starts at 1
03:24.41Kaeltenuse 0
03:24.43Kaeltenit works
03:24.44ckknightcurrently I just subtract by 100000
03:24.46ckknightbut I want to upgrade.
03:24.58Kaeltenhrm
03:24.58ckknightor at least have the option
03:25.31ckknightI think the simplest way would be to change strmatch(minor, "%d+") to strmatch(minor, "%-?%d+")
03:26.12Kaeltenya
03:26.25KaeltenI'll probably add it after a min here
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03:38.10ckknightKaelten: I can't commit a unit test to LibStub, I get a forbidden error
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03:39.19Kaeltenhrm, I've been fucking with the access file
03:39.27Kaeltenat least I did all day yesterday
03:39.37Kaeltencharon was having issues earlier as well
03:40.23Seerah_question for those that are smarter than me ;)
03:40.56Seerah_does UnitClassification() return rare, too?
03:41.09Seerah_wait, nvm
03:41.28Seerah_found a different page on wowwiki that includes it as a return :)
03:42.42Seerah_ohh... the one I was looking at before was UnitIsPlusMob()
03:46.56MentalPower~lart Tekkub
03:46.57purlwhips out a sword and chops Tekkub in half
03:48.04Kaelten~lart MentalPower
03:48.04purlexecutes killall -KILL MentalPower
03:48.26MentalPower~whaleblock
03:48.36Kaeltenlol
03:48.53MentalPower~whaleblock me
03:48.54purlACTION shields mentalpower with a freakishly huger whale named ollywag
03:48.54Kaeltenwhats up Mental?
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04:12.45Corussanyone alive?
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04:23.07nymbia..and that's why i believe that Fisker- should be bound and gagged and tossed out to sea
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04:25.44ckknightnymbia: it's true.
04:25.56ckknightKaelten: fix the perms yet?
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04:28.24yssarilalright i am new to this generating frames through lua the creation process i understand (somewhat) what i cant figure out is how to destroy a frame is it enough if when i have created say newFrame = CreateFrame("frameType", "frameName", parentFrame[, "inheritsFrame"]) is it enough to just set newFrame = nil to destroy it and have it eventually GC'ed?
04:29.00nymbiayssaril: there's no frame destruction, sadly
04:29.15yssarilso once it is created i am stuck with it?
04:29.40nymbiayssaril: you can nil it in lua, but it still exists in C, so the best solution is to recycle them by keeping unused ones in a table and resetting their properties
04:31.07yssarilyou mean rename them from newFrame to say Framepool[1] and then check if framepool has any frames if it does use it from there if it does not make a new one?
04:31.22nymbiaright
04:33.02yssarilis there a way to change what frame a frame inherits?
04:33.09nymbiayou could also use a metatable to generate frames when you don't have one cached.. i might have some decently clean example code of that out there....
04:33.54nymbiayeah there's an arg in CreateFrame to determine inheritence, iirc.. but it can only be inherited from uh... virtual frames i think?  which need to be defined in xml
04:34.13nymbia(not sure if that's right, it's been a while since i've messed with them)
04:34.46yssarilnymbia i think thats right but what if i recycle a frame can i change its inheritance?
04:35.29ckknightyou can't change inheritance
04:35.31ckknightsadly
04:35.44nymbiayssaril: nope.  but you could for instance make a function to pass those recycled frames through to set their properties to what you need them to be
04:35.55ckknightwhat I tend to do as far as frame recycling is consider type + inherited frame as its own type
04:36.10ckknighte.g. "Button;UIButtonTemplate" instead of just "Button"
04:36.31nymbiathat's a good approach
04:36.34yssarilso basically have several recycle pools for each type of frame?
04:36.41ckknightyep
04:37.55ckknightKaelten: you there?
04:38.47yssarilnow what is better cpu/memory wise to store several types of framepools that inherit from a virtual xml one or create a framepool for each individual part of a frame (buttonpool ckeckpool editpool etc)
04:39.32nymbiayssaril: if they're going to stay that way, then leave as many of the attributes unchanged as you can.
04:39.38ckknightboth are arguably good, depends on your situation
04:40.19yssarillet me give you a screeny of what i am dealing with atm give me a sec to dig it up
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04:46.33CIA-2203ckknight * r48964 10LibRockEvent-1.0/LibRockEvent-1.0.lua:
04:46.33CIA-22LibRockEvent-1.0 - add event "LibEvent-1.0","FullyInitialized" and method RockEvent:IsFullyInitialized().
04:46.33CIA-22- Fully initialized means that it is post-PLAYER_LOGIN and all chat channels have been properly joined, which has no corresponding Blizzard event.
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04:48.03yssarilhere it is basically i want to move away from teh fauxscrollbar and use the scroll frame and will have to dynamically generate the table to be scrolled. each line will contain the same objects (might have different text but the ui objects will be the same) currently i have up to 4 objects per line wich might get expanded to 6 or 7 http://img459.imageshack.us/img459/6639/testog1.jpg
04:48.26yssarilbtw here is how i have it currently hardcoded into xml http://ace.pastey.net/73876 ugly as hell :P
04:49.24CIA-2203ckknight * r48965 10LibRockEvent-1.0/LibRockEvent-1.0.lua:
04:49.24CIA-22LibRockEvent-1.0 - ROCK-7
04:49.24CIA-22- add documentation to :IsFullyInitialized
04:52.42yssarilckknight: so what do you think?
04:52.59ckknightlemme check
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04:53.16ckknightlooks usable
04:53.38ckknightyou shouldn't disable the personal data button if you're on it, though
04:53.43ckknightseems odd
04:53.45ckknightimho
04:54.48yssarilit is usable but what whould be better inherit frames or custom configure them in lua? (each page can have a different table layout
04:55.21ckknighthrm
04:55.30ckknightfrankly, do what's easier for you
04:55.34CIA-2203ckknight 07Rock * r48966 10Cartographer/Cartographer/ (4 files in 4 dirs): Cartographer - use Rock's FullyInitialized instead of Ace's
04:55.48ckknightfor me, when working on LibRockConfig-1.0, I initially inherited but ended up having to rewrite things to my own ends
04:55.55ckknightsuch as the buttons
04:56.01ckknightstretch is weird normally.
04:57.08yssarilwell since i am rewriting (at least the table) from scratch either would be easy enough since i have never really created frames in lua :)
04:57.18ckknightlearn to do that
04:57.38CIA-2203ckknight 07Rock * r48967 10CowTip/CowTip/Appearance/Appearance.lua: CowTip - use Rock's FullyInitialized instead of Ace's
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04:58.23yssarilthats the plan :)
04:58.51CIA-2203ckknight 07Rock * r48968 10PitBull/PitBull/PitBull.lua: PitBull - use Rock's FullyInitialized instead of Ace's
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05:03.55CIA-2203ckknight 07Rock * r48969 10Cartographer/Cartographer/Cartographer.lua: Cartographer - don't show the Enabled option.
05:04.55CIA-2203ckknight 07Rock * r48970 10PitBull/PitBull/PitBull.lua: PitBull - don't show the Enabled option.
05:05.38CIA-2203ckknight 07Rock * r48971 10FuBar/FuBar/FuBar.lua: FuBar - don't show the Enabled option.
05:08.12yssarilckknight how is the conversion to rock comming along?
05:08.31ckknightpretty good
05:08.38ckknightI'm just getting some Rock issues out of the way now
05:09.35CIA-2203ckknight * r48972 10LibRockConfig-1.0/LibRockConfig-1.0.lua:
05:09.35CIA-22LibRockConfig-1.0 - ROCK-5
05:09.35CIA-22- make type = 'string' require a usage field.
05:09.44yssarilsounds heavy :P
05:09.53ckknightnot really
05:09.56ckknightpretty smooth
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05:11.49yssarilcool
05:15.52yssarilckknight: is there anything in rock that would help with recycling frames? ie if one rock mod is done using some frames and another mod wants to make a frame it can pickit up from a rockpool of frames??
05:16.20ckknightno, nor would I do it that way anyway
05:16.25ckknightnamespacing of frames is best
05:16.35ckknightthough I had thought about having some kind of recycling system
05:17.07ckknightin Rock, tables are recycled easily
05:17.10ckknightbut it's namespaced
05:17.23ckknightso that one addon's errors won't blame another
05:17.39ckknightwhich was all too often with pre-WoW 2.0 recycling (e.g. Compost)
05:17.42yssarilahhh makes sense
05:18.17yssarilso basically addon1 creats a frame tosses it into the recycler addon2 uses it screws it up and addon1 gets the blame?
05:19.15CIA-2203ckknight * r48973 10LibRockConfig-1.0/LibRockConfig-1.0.lua:
05:19.15CIA-22LibRockConfig-1.0 - ROCK-8
05:19.15CIA-22- be sure to show alpha sliders after hiding them
05:19.20ckknightright, yssaril
05:19.24ckknightthough with tables this happened
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05:21.48yssaril<-- no idea what is involved with recycling tables but for frames a recycler doesn't seam to hard to write so idk if it would be worth it to put it into rock (don't wanna bloat it if only a handfull people would use it anyways)
05:23.49ckknightI wrote one for PitBull
05:23.50ckknightcheck it out
05:24.07ckknightI'd be unlikely to put it into rock
05:24.12ckknightprobably a 3rd-party lib, though
05:27.03yssarilyea doesn't seam to hard to do (writing one for my personal use, writing a lib for it i leave that to someone more experienced than me)
05:32.26CIA-2203ckknight * r48974 10LibRockConfig-1.0/LibRockConfig-1.0.lua:
05:32.26CIA-22LibRockConfig-1.0 - ROCK-9
05:32.26CIA-22- adjust scroll bar in tree view when lines are expanded and contracted, making the overall position stay the same but the scroll bar itself change position.
05:37.16yssarillol someone is trying to sell the soulcloth glove pattern for 125g on the AH (its a vendor item btw)
05:37.34KemayoKaelten: I'm at a 1280x1024, but I don't put my browser windows at fullscreen.
05:39.30KemayoKaelten: I've played around with resizing things.  If my browser is any smaller than maximised 1280x1024, the title overlaps.  If it's any smaller than around a maximised 1024x768, the side banner overlaps.
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06:00.46CIA-2203ckknight * r48975 10LibRockConfig-1.0/LibRockConfig-1.0.lua:
06:00.46CIA-22LibRockConfig-1.0 - ROCK-12
06:00.46CIA-22- add support for half-toggles.
06:00.46CIA-22- if a type = 'boolean' returns "HALF", it'll show up grayed-out.
06:00.46CIA-22- if a type = 'multichoice' returns "HALF", it'll show up grayed out.
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06:02.20ckknight~botmail to cncfanatics: added support for half-toggles, btw.
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06:06.10yssarilckknight what is the purpose of half toggles?
06:06.33ckknightit's a fringe case, most people wouldn't use it, but it's useful to show if something is half-enabled
06:06.37ckknightor to have a 3-state situation
06:06.47ckknightsay you have a big toggle that controls multiple other ones
06:06.59ckknightif you have 0 other ones enabled, it should also not be enabled
06:07.06ckknightif all are enabled, it should also be enabled
06:07.16ckknightbut what if only some are enabled, then it should be half-on
06:07.24FryGuy-anyone here get to play fortress forever yet?
06:07.40yssarilckknight: kk makes sense
06:08.17CIA-2203ckknight * r48977 10LibRockConfig-1.0/LibRockConfig-1.0.lua:
06:08.17CIA-22LibRockConfig-1.0 - ROCK-13
06:08.17CIA-22- fix issue where confirmText didn't gray out when the control is disabled.
06:08.27ckknightyssaril: either way, cncfanatics asked for it
06:08.32ckknightand I found a use for it with FuBar
06:08.35ckknightso it all works out
06:09.11yssarilyea saw it on the jira but couldn't think of a decent use for it
06:09.29ckknightI've closed like 8 jira tickets in the past hour :-P
06:09.32ckknightdoing pretty good
06:10.08yssarilyea have noticed
06:10.39ckknightnow I'm finally gonna get groupType = 'inline' to work
06:10.49ckknightit's a bitch, but horribly useful
06:15.21yssarilwhats that supposed to do?
06:16.45ckknighton the backend, it acts just like a normal group
06:17.09ckknightto the user, it doesn't show up in the treeview on the left, instead it shows up as kind of a cluster on the right, with all the other controls
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06:56.52ckknightalright, cya all later
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07:01.32PrimerHi, I can find nowhere else for help on this. How do I remove the little numbers from the buffs (debuffs?) at the very top left in this shot: http://sh.nu/w.jpg
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07:04.44Neeblerprimer: what cooldown count addon are you using?
07:05.06Neeblerwell whatever it is, explude the target unitframe from it
07:05.20Neeblerexclude*
07:07.15asmodaiIt's not the standard Blizzard cooldown count though.
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07:21.12CIA-2203daviesh * r48978 10AtlasLoot/ (6 files in 4 dirs):
07:21.12CIA-22AtlasLoot:
07:21.12CIA-22- Created menu system for the Skettis world event stuff
07:25.53CIA-2203nickenyfiken * r48979 10FuBar_TrainerFu/TrainerFu_VisitTrainer.lua: FuBar_TrainerFu: Hopefully fixed the problem trying to use the not loaded notes module.
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07:43.16KemayoInteresting problem: some addon is hard-locking my computer when I log in to WoW outside of an inn/city.
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07:43.52KemayoIt's a really painful process of elimination, as you might imagine.
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07:46.59KemayoIt's Squeenix, it seems.
07:47.54KemayoTekkub: It looks like Squeenix is somehow crashing WoW when I log in while not in a city.  (Or is interacting with some other addon to produce that effect, at least.)
07:48.19Tekkubace or my SVN?
07:48.23KemayoAce
07:48.29Tekkubno idea then
07:48.37KemayoI tried your SVN -- it had the distinction of not actually being working at the time.  ;_;
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07:56.48CIA-2203mikk 07Alpha * r48980 10Ace3/AceTimer-3.0/ (AceTimer-3.0.lua tests/test1.lua tests/test2.lua):
07:56.48CIA-22Ace3 - ACE-31, ACE-37
07:56.48CIA-22- Use method==nil to indicate canceled timer rather than delay==nil
07:56.48CIA-22- Timers are now able to cancel themselves from inside the callback (*slap Nevcairiel*)
07:56.48CIA-22- Add test for canceling timer from inside callback
07:56.48CIA-22- Add "test2.lua" - test error conditions and error messages
07:58.40[Ammo]my squeenix from wow svn is working fine
07:58.41[Ammo]weird
08:07.50Nickenyfiken~seen ckknight
08:08.02purlckknight <n=ckknight@rrcs-74-62-251-185.west.biz.rr.com> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 1h 11m 10s ago, saying: 'alright, cya all later'.
08:09.14NickenyfikenNasty bug in Parrot heh
08:10.44Wobin_Avian bird flu?
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08:13.02|Stan|is the server dead? the last updates I got are from 8pm but there were many overnight
08:13.19Nickenyfikenhehe
08:13.48NickenyfikenIf you have parrot, go into configuration mode for the scroll areas and do a reset profile
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08:15.03orionshockhey all
08:15.31NickenyfikenHey hey
08:16.02orionshockgot a question about "common-practice" with the SVN and MIA authors
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08:17.04orionshockOptiTaunt, i've updated it a bit to work with some of the newer conventions that have come about. The RaidWarning channel as provided by blizzard and sink lib
08:17.30orionshockis there anything wrong me updating someone else's addon?
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08:21.02kebinusanSvn is a black hole, addons go in and dont often come out... I think typically you should have an authors permission before submitting major changes
08:21.23NightHawkTheSaneYou should try to get in contact with the author, but assuming their fairly MIA, then i don't think anyone would mind terribly
08:21.37NightHawkTheSaneworst case, you can always fork and rename
08:21.42[Ammo]who
08:21.45[Ammo]who's the author
08:21.48NightHawkTheSane(giving credit where credit is due, of course)
08:24.10orionshockOptiTaunt by Nebelmond (EU-Die silberne Hand)
08:24.28orionshocknot an EU player so... iv only been able to convince one person to go check to see if he's online
08:24.53kebinusanyou could check the armory see if the player is alive and kicking
08:24.59orionshockhe is
08:25.15orionshockno email listed at all
08:25.40kebinusancheck the wowace forums to see if there is a user by this name?
08:26.18[Ammo]just make a char there and send him an ingame email to contact you on wowace forums
08:26.22[Ammo]done
08:26.22[Ammo]etc :)
08:26.47TNSeheh
08:27.00NightHawkTheSane[Ammo]: er, might be tough as he said he's not in EU :P
08:27.10[Ammo]he's on EU
08:27.11orionshock:D
08:27.15[Ammo]oh orionshock isn't
08:27.19NightHawkTheSane:D
08:27.22NightHawkTheSaneyou could volunteer ;)
08:27.29[Ammo]I am not rolling a char on a german server
08:27.31TNSeI'm missing author of the Fizzwidget tools :(
08:27.48[Ammo]they're full of germans
08:27.51[Ammo]*shiver*
08:27.57NightHawkTheSane<PROTECTED>
08:28.07TNSegerman servers have germans?
08:28.08[Ammo]I already live close enough to the german border (10km or so)
08:28.11SroshI agree.
08:28.35SroshI live /in/ Germany and I wouldn't roll on a German server either!
08:30.30orionshocki found him on the wowace fourms & sent him a PM
08:30.36[Ammo]good :)
08:31.02orionshockanother forum go'er asked for my patched version so i linked him to it as well .. maybe he'll commit it himself
08:31.20NightHawkTheSanei say just fork it and rename it
08:31.36orionshockmy SVN-Fu is not strong
08:31.50NightHawkTheSanecommit it as a separate add on. :P
08:33.08[Ammo]just wait for the author
08:33.15[Ammo]no need to go bonkers on forking when the author is around
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08:33.30TNSeSrosh, gratz on being a sane german :P
08:33.51Srosh;D
08:33.57TNSenow, I just gotta fix my own issue with installing NORWEGIAN win xp
08:34.05TNSewhy on EARTH did I do that
08:34.34art3misto learn norwegien by osmosis ;P
08:34.58TNSeheh
08:35.01TNSewell
08:35.10art3mishehe i know how windows looks
08:35.12TNSethe issue is that all the shortcuts get messy
08:35.19art3misso language doesnt make much difference
08:35.23TNSeI've used english windows for years
08:35.28TNSeknow all the hotkeys
08:35.31art3misi know visually how to use the korean and spanish versions ;P
08:35.34TNSeand then I buy a new pc get new windows
08:35.44TNSeand for some reason I managed to get a norwegian version this time
08:35.52art3mishehe nice
08:35.54TNSeso when I'm doing hotkeys, totally random things happen
08:36.25TNSe(yeah, I do live in norway :P)
08:36.25art3misand you dont speak it?
08:36.25TNSeI do speak it
08:36.29TNSethats not the problem, the problem is that I am used to english :P
08:36.33art3miswhere in .no are ya?
08:36.40art3misheh
08:36.42TNSesomewhere around bergen somewhere
08:36.45art3misjust chuck nix on it
08:37.07CIA-2203ammo 07Alpha * r48981 10Ace3/ (AceAddon-3.0/AceAddon-3.0.lua docs/AceAddon-3.0.txt): Ace3: AceAddon-3.0 - fix API inconsistency by addon IterateEmbeds to the addon API
08:37.08art3miswhat a coincidence im near bergen too!
08:37.15art3misBergen St, brooklyn ;P
08:37.22TNSekek
08:37.30orionshockumm... wiki failing me
08:37.37orionshock~wowwiki CreateFontString
08:38.23rob`blegh, anyone have any idea how to run WoW on a different port?  I'm being rate-limited by a stupid router policy.
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08:39.05rob`I'm not even sure it's possible.
08:39.18art3misumm
08:39.50art3misdont think you cant
08:39.57art3misits more or elss hardcoded
08:40.00art3misless
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08:40.31art3misunless you somehow redirect 3724 to some port on the router an then IT redirects to the proper oprt
08:40.38rob`Actually.
08:40.40rob`VPN.
08:40.57rob`Run a VPN to a machine outside the local net.
08:41.10rob`and use that as my local gateway.
08:41.21rob`it'd add latency but nowhere near the latency I'm experiencing.
08:43.02rob`I could probably whip up a Linux CD that does nothing but act as a gateway to a VPN I set off campus.
08:43.17rob`boot the machine next to me and set this one to use it as a gateway.
08:43.17TNSerob`, where is the router?
08:43.48TNSeanyway
08:43.54TNSewow enforces heavy rate limiting itself
08:44.00rob`physically?  In a rack in the room next to me, but changing it isn't really an option.
08:44.15TNSenot sure what rate its limited at
08:44.19TNSebut it wont allow much traffic
08:44.45TNSewell, can you put a machine outside of the router? :P
08:44.53rob`nope
08:45.05TNSethen you are fucked anyway, because blizzard only allows through that port
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08:45.19rob`You're quite right.
08:45.31rob`However, what I *can* do is create a VPN to my home machine and home network.
08:45.41TNSebut then you have a machine outside of the router :P
08:45.43rob`and route all my network traffic through there.
08:45.56rob`Oh, "outside" for values of "across the internet", yes
08:45.57art3miswow via vpn is brutal
08:46.00rob`I thought you meant immediately outside.
08:46.04TNSewell
08:46.06TNSethat would be ideal
08:46.16TNSebut jsut as long as you are outside the router
08:46.20odti have a howto on tunneling wow over ssh
08:46.24art3mishehe playing it through a vnc is funny too ;P
08:46.25rob`art: it probably would be, yes.. but I'm getting like six second pings.
08:46.29odtso to your provider it would look like an ssh connection
08:46.33rob`odt: oh god that would be much simpler
08:46.49rob`so I'd just need plink or something?
08:46.58rob`do you have a URL?
08:47.01odtor putty
08:47.07rob`plink == putty, yeah
08:47.12odthttp://eee.ericsson.ee/~odt/wow-tunnel.txt
08:47.15rob`awesome
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08:48.08harldephinhm. standard stuff
08:48.36rob`clever, using the hosts file to redirect traffic to localhost.
08:49.27Fisker-holy shit odt
08:49.35Fisker-i always used shit like sockscap and such
08:49.36Fisker-awesome
08:50.45odtwell, theres only 1 complicated step in the guide really
08:50.59odtyou have to add your destination realm ip to your local ip addresses
08:51.11odtand for that you will need to create a new loopback connection in windows at least
08:51.53Fisker-do you think there's any performance benefits to using this method rather than sockscap, freecap and so forth?
08:52.35odttoo many variables, best to try it out and see for yourself ;)
08:52.46TNSelol
08:53.12TNSenow if I only had a pc in france to test against .http://eu.wowarmory.com/guild-info.xml?r=Trollbane&n=Perfectly+Sane&p=1
08:53.15TNSeagainst
08:53.18cryogenwhile you're on the subect, do you know of any 'free' port forwarding utils for windows?
08:53.18TNSe+ wrong paste
08:53.24odtand i don't like using freecap anyway, because it hooks to the executable and could be detected by blizz i gues
08:53.28Fisker-nooooo odt :(
08:53.47Fisker-i've been using proxycap and sockscap for a good amount of time now
08:53.57Fisker-without ever having as much as a warning or an investigation :P
08:53.59TNSebecause I'm tired of 50-800+ ping permanently :P
08:54.12TNSe<3 quartz, </3 random pings
08:54.38odtif the box you tunnel through is on a good connection, this forwarding usuall will get you better performance
08:55.09harldephini wouldn't even want to play the game with a ping higher than 150
08:55.11odti tried it in 40man raids a lot when i wrote the guide a year ago
08:55.34TNSewithout quartz, my ele shammy couldn't even sustain 600 dps
08:55.39TNSewith quartz it jumped to 850 >_<
08:55.47odthmm
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08:56.04TNSewith a proper connection I could probably get even higher
08:56.12TNSegear? worthless
08:56.20CIA-2203morgalm * r48982 10MorgDKP/LootTablet.lua:
08:56.20CIA-22MorgDKP:
08:56.20CIA-22- fix error resulting in autolink missing 1 piece of loot
08:56.26TNSeits stupid
08:56.43odtwhat's so special about quartz?
08:56.53TNSewhy are locks beating mages in dps? Not because of talents or so, just because of lag
08:57.04Punkie`Fisker-: lolol
08:57.04TNSedots > cast time spells for dps
08:57.11TNSeodt, its not quartz itself
08:57.18TNSeits quartz helping you with /stopcasting
08:57.19odtyou mean /stopcasting?
08:57.21odtk
08:57.34TNSeits just doign /stopcasting without quartz was risky
08:57.36Punkie`Fisker-: Someone just applied to my guild called Btard
08:57.36rob`yeah, quartz puts a little red section of your bar corresponding to current lag
08:57.49rob`so it lets you know when you can reasonably safely do /stopcasting
08:58.14TNSefor ele shammy its 100% required
08:58.18Fisker-:( Punkie`
08:58.21Fisker-but how?
08:58.24TNSe2s chaincast
08:58.24Fisker-You are in our guild
08:58.32Punkie`silence peasant!
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08:58.39orionshockquestion...
08:58.45TNSeits not as bad for a lock with 3s cast or mage with 3s
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08:58.56TNSebut for a 2s cast time spell lag is horrid
08:59.01orionshocknevermind answered my own
08:59.08rob`chaincasting frostbolts, arcane blast, and so on are really effectted by it.
08:59.13rob`and paladin flash of light.
08:59.21rob`I got a lot of improvement with quartz. :)
08:59.31TNSeyup
08:59.31orionshockok - real question
08:59.33orionshockhttp://ace.pastey.net/73879
08:59.34odtyeah, I play pally, but all my clique macros have stopcasting in em
08:59.35orionshockwould that wokr?
09:00.11Fisker-it can't wokr
09:00.17TNSeits just that /stopcasting without quartz wasn't possible for me
09:00.17orionshockhehe
09:00.34Fisker-you can actually time it pretty good with just exploiting the GCD
09:00.36TNSeevery cast, I have liek, 50s, 150, 150, 800, 700, 500, 150, 150, 500, 50, 50
09:00.38Fisker-it looks like it's clientside
09:01.21TNSefor 1.5s casts using gcd is fine
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09:06.40cncfanaticsyo all
09:09.25orionshockwhats the Global var for the Game normal font?
09:09.37orionshockis it just GAME_NORMAL_FONT ?
09:10.36kebinusanbe nice if they just implemented something like a one ability server side queue
09:10.54kebinusanbut that will never happen
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09:11.12kebinusanI despise doing /stopcasting to get around latency issues
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09:11.35orionshockour UI blue said that that's not going to be needed w/ an upcomming patch
09:11.38nevcairielthey plan to fix the casting issues with 2.3 tho
09:11.57Worfyeah, i'm curious about what will happen then.
09:12.09kebinusan<PROTECTED>
09:12.20nevcairielnah
09:12.23kebinusan<PROTECTED>
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09:12.32kebinusanYeah I saw that post though
09:12.43nevcairielslouken is a good guy, he will fix it, not block it ;)
09:12.45cncfanaticsthey'll just make the server decide when to show the already casting thingy
09:12.50Worfspeaking of which: how comes that instant spells that are not bound to a global cooldown cause a cooldown to other spells?
09:12.51GrumMorning all!
09:12.51cncfanaticsand not the client
09:12.54kebinusanbut the way blizzard has been doing patch cycles forgive me I dont hold my breath
09:13.02GrumWhat addon should you use to track your own debuff timers (dots for locks for example) ?
09:13.03kebinusan2.2 has been on the PTR for over 2 months now
09:13.07Grumwhich one shows it nicely?
09:13.10kebinusanGrum, Quartz imo
09:13.13cncfanaticsGrum, chronometer ?
09:13.21cncfanaticsquartz is single target unfortunatly
09:13.28nevcairiel2.2 is special, because they rewrote alot of the internal mechanics
09:13.32nevcairiellike full new sound system
09:13.56Grumis there also something that can broadcast: 'zomg nub in 5 seconds your sunders will be gone' ?
09:13.56TNSethe only way blizz can fix it
09:14.00cncfanaticsI just hope they're not breaking linux stuff
09:14.01kebinusannevcairiel, Its not just 2.2 really, since tbc they really seem to be milking ptr  and time between content patches
09:14.01TNSeis if they add a queue system
09:14.07cncfanaticsTNSe , no ?
09:14.09cncfanaticsread what I said
09:14.20cncfanaticsif they make the server decide if u can cast instead of the client its pretty much fixed
09:14.25TNSeno
09:14.37cncfanaticswell, thats whay they're doing
09:14.42TNSethen you still have lag from client<->server there
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09:14.47nevcairielits not like they only work on one patch
09:14.55nevcairiela blue said, that 2.3 is pretty much done too
09:14.57cncfanaticsTNSe, u also do with /stopcasting
09:15.04nevcairielonly waiting for 2.2 until they release specific information
09:15.13TNSeyes, but with /stopcasting you don't mash your buttons
09:15.24cncfanaticsyou can mash ur buttons with the fix they will implent
09:15.26kebinusannevcairiel: I missed that then
09:15.27cncfanaticsdoesnt mean u have to
09:15.38cncfanaticswith quartz it'll be the same as it is now, without the /stopcasting at the start of the macro
09:15.38kebinusanwhy not just roll your face on the keybard
09:15.40cncfanaticswhich is what we want
09:15.45kebinusanheh
09:15.46nevcairielthe server does decide when you can cast spells
09:15.59cncfanaticsyea, but currently the client won't let you send spell requests whenever u want
09:16.02cncfanaticsthey're just changing that :)
09:16.02nevcairielonly that the notification it sends to the client, is the lag you notice
09:16.15Xinhuani'll believe it when i see it.
09:16.25TNSethe lag wont be properly fixed until you can queue spells unfortunately
09:16.30TNSeand thats not going into wow
09:16.41TNSebecause it would open up an entirely new can of worms :P
09:16.44Grumhumz which addon could track 'last hits/heals before death' from other people in the raid? so you can see what the hell killed em?
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09:16.55nevcairielGrum: expiration
09:16.59TNSegrimreaper or wws
09:17.01kebinusanGrum, expiration if you wnat just that
09:17.05Grumyay thanks :)
09:17.07kebinusanRecount if you want that and alot more
09:17.22kebinusanI prefer recount's display format, but its a bit overkill for just that
09:17.22GrumRecount also tracks that easily then?
09:17.30kebinusanverily
09:17.43nevcairielexpiration could use a GUI for display
09:17.43Grumi've used recount and cant remember the option to see 'what killed this person' easily :D
09:17.48nevcairielbut other then that, its good for me
09:17.53Grummmm it's text-only?
09:17.53kebinusanIts Deaths in recount
09:17.58kebinusanno its in the gui
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09:18.07Grum(i mean Expiration)
09:18.17nevcairielexpiration is text only, at least what i figured out
09:18.21kebinusanoh yes expiration is text only
09:18.27nevcairielyou do /expiration report <playername>
09:18.28kebinusanand just shows the last death IIRC
09:18.30nevcairieland it spouts it out
09:19.01kebinusanrecount stores the events, colorizes heals vs hits, allows you show or filter out other misc things like ability gains/losses
09:19.11Grummm then recount is better
09:19.16Grumok will check that one, thanks a lot :)
09:19.21nevcairielplus recount eats your cpu alive
09:19.28nevcairieland your ram
09:19.29Grumwont be that bad ;)
09:19.34kebinusannevcairiel, mostly your ram yeah
09:19.41Grumram plenty :)
09:19.51nevcairielnot-so-plenty-anymore with recount :D
09:20.00nevcairielanway, time for some food, brb
09:20.08kebinusanheh, /recount reset is your friend
09:20.19kebinusanyou can also set it to discard data faster
09:26.21vithosor not record certain data in the first place
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09:28.08cncfanaticshow can I schedule a table for garbage collecting ?
09:28.53harldephinoO
09:29.13Xinhuanyou don't
09:29.13Grumpushing it out of scope? :D
09:29.25Xinhuana table gets collected if there is no reference to it
09:29.37cncfanaticsno way to make it collect if there are references to it then ? :(
09:29.43Xinhuanya
09:29.52Xinhuanalso GC starts running only when it feels its should run
09:29.53Grumhow would those references resolve then?
09:30.00cncfanaticsnil I guess
09:30.19Xinhuanthere is a way cnc, it involes using weak tables
09:30.21cncfanaticsI do remember something about weak table references somewhere
09:30.36cncfanaticsheh Xinhuan, can u link me to some docu about that K
09:30.40Xinhuan~pil
09:30.40purlwell, pil is Programming in Lua, a book written by the authors of the Lua programming language.  The first edition is available free online at http://www.lua.org/pil and covers Lua 5.0.  The second edition is available in print from most online bookstores, and covers Lua 5.1.
09:30.40cncfanaticss/K/?/
09:30.49Xinhuanthere is your link.
09:30.56Xinhuancomplete with examples
09:30.59nevcairielyou could always force a collectgarbage call
09:31.05nevcairielbut that will collect everything
09:31.11nevcairieland potentally lag the ui :P
09:31.27krka_whatever you're trying to do, you're probably doing it the wrong way :)
09:31.37Xinhuanyou'll want to read the pil first on what weak tables are
09:31.40Xinhuanand how to create them
09:32.50cncfanaticsmeh, i'm just writing a basic OO engine
09:32.53cncfanaticsfor what I need
09:32.57cncfanaticsand I would fancy a :kill() method
09:33.02cncfanaticswhich would basicly, kill the object
09:33.03Xinhuanbasically, an object is garbage collected ONLY if there are no STRONG references to it
09:33.13cncfanaticsI see
09:33.16Xinhuanevery reference is strong unless declared weak
09:33.25cncfanaticsthink u'll jsut nil the references to the table
09:33.38nevcairieljust remove all references to your object, and let the GC handle the other work
09:33.42Xinhuanand this can only be done on the keys/values of a table
09:34.15Xinhuanif a table has weak keys -- then the key-value pair is collected when the key has no reference to it (the key is usually a string or a table)
09:35.13Xinhuanif a table has weak values, then the key-value pair is collected when the value has no other references to it (the value is also usually a string or table)
09:35.28Xinhuanand a table can be both weak keys and weak values, either, or none
09:36.18cncfanaticsby default none ofc :)
09:36.29Grummm what's eepanels2? :)
09:36.48Grumaddittion, successor or replacement of eepanels? :)
09:37.47cncfanaticslove ya too fisker
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09:39.26cncfanaticshmmmm
09:39.27cncfanaticsI wonder
09:39.32cncfanaticswith 2.3 almost rdy
09:39.38cncfanaticschances are we are getting 2.3 PTR right after 2.2 is out ?
09:42.07kebinusannah Id expect we'll get some 2.2.x patches to fix unforseen voice chat problems
09:42.19cncfanaticseh
09:42.23cncfanaticsxml files cannot load other xml files ?
09:45.38orionshockcncfanatics: right iirc
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09:45.55cncfanaticsthats just
09:45.57cncfanaticsSTUPID
09:46.08Fisker-kebinusan patch developement is run seperately
09:46.16Fisker-they can do 2.3 and 2.2 at the same time
09:46.19Fisker-and they do
09:46.41Fisker-i also think we'll see the 2.3 PTR soon
09:46.58NickenyfikenMe think so too
09:48.26cncfanaticsorionshock, lyar
09:48.31orionshockeh?
09:48.39cncfanatics<Include file=""/> does fine for xml files
09:49.07Xinhuando you think it is safe to assume there will be at last 8 weeks to patch 2.3?
09:49.57cncfanaticsless me thinks
09:50.17Xinhuanwhy do you think zulaman patch and guld banks
09:50.24Xinhuanwill take shorter tan 2 months?
09:50.44orionshockthis is blizzard we're talking bout
09:51.14cncfanaticsbecuz they already coded it prolly
09:51.24cncfanaticsand have done a lot of testing internaly already (or so I hope)
09:51.30Xinhuanbut untested and unbalanced by the public
09:52.05cncfanaticsI doubt there would be any truly major stuff changed from PTR
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09:52.42NickenyfikenHmm can someone tell me why Bartender don't let me swap page on shapeshift?
09:53.05orionshockNickenyfiken:  reload your UI and try again
09:53.18NickenyfikenYea doing right now
09:53.29NickenyfikenJust learned bear form on my toon
09:53.58orionshockya you got to reload ui when you learn a new form
09:54.35NickenyfikenKaelten: the new files pages is really nice ^^
09:55.06nevcairielNickenyfiken: yea thats a bug, when you learn a new stance, you have to reloadui to get it working .. but its fixed in the next version in branches .. for 2.2
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09:55.30NickenyfikenNot a big problem i guess
09:55.51Xinhuanlol
09:55.57Xinhuanso many addons in the "Unknown" category
09:56.35Xinhuanthe advertisement is hiding the "WowAce.com's Files - WoW2.0 only" <-- hiding the last few words
09:56.37Xinhuandue to length
09:56.52cncfanaticsthe bug only exists cuz nevcairiel was too lazy to register an event and rebuild stance stuff there btw :)
09:57.35nevcairielit was more complicated
09:57.43nevcairieli redid some stance stuff in my 2.2 branch
09:57.46nevcairielwhere it works fine now
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10:00.46CIA-22Ace3 - AceTimer-3.0
10:00.46CIA-22- small tweak
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10:03.29orionshockso the rogue says... "Green is sleep" ;
10:03.42orionshockon the next pull he marks a human for me (a druid) to sleep
10:04.36Wobin_did you tell it a bedtime story?
10:06.49orionshockthough bout off tanking it
10:07.31Wobin_how about saying "Hey Rogue, I can't sleep humans, pick an animal"
10:07.59cncfanaticshow about not pugging ? :)
10:08.17Wobin_well if you're pugging you may as well make the best of it
10:08.24orionshockim a sucker for pug's
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10:15.50NarashHi, I just downloaded Omen from wowace.com and I just can't find an option to show the GLOBAL TPS - It only shows my TPS on ONE SINGLE mob, can anyone help me? :)
10:15.54orionshockthen again im pulling in 8% behind our rogue in damage
10:16.30CodayusWhy would you want global TPS?
10:16.32orionshockNarash the number your looking for is not able to be displayed, as it's not something calculated
10:18.09vithosis that not what the E-TPS (encounter TPS) column is, which is hidden by default?
10:21.14CodayusNo, ETPS is TPS over the duration of the fight on that target.  Normal TPS column is a moving average over the last few seconds.  AFAIK.
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10:21.43NarashI need to see the global TPS for raid leading and tanking purposes. The Addon bugs in mount Hyjal & Illidan P2 anyways and doesn't display accurate values
10:21.52CodayusNeither is "global"; the point of Omen is that global threat is pretty useless...
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10:22.19CodayusNarash: Detailed use case?  :-)
10:22.50NarashLet's say Hyjal trash for example, I don't know if you know it
10:23.18Narashbut in Wave 1 for example, there are 12 Ghouls running towards the raid
10:23.38NarashWe use a paladin tank who tanks all of them with consecration
10:23.51NarashThe mobs all have the same name, so they alle use the same threat pool
10:24.08Narashhe has about 300 tps on each ghoul, which results in a total of 3600 tps
10:24.34Narashnow when our mages target ONE of those ghouls, they see that  he has 3600 tps on THAT CERTAIN GHOUL (which omen actually shows) but that's absolutely wrong
10:25.14vithosthat's because, as you already know, they have the same name
10:25.25nevcairielthere is no way to fix that
10:25.26vithosblizzard does not expose a unique identifier for each mob to addons
10:25.41nevcairielpatch 2.4 will solve that problem, however
10:25.47_dreamssyeah?
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10:26.21_dreamssu could use the focus frame to tag a mob, but then the user wont have access :P
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10:27.14NarashFor me as a druid tank it would just be great to see my global TPS, is that not possible with Omen?
10:27.21cncfanaticsur global TPS ?
10:27.30cncfanaticsaah I see, on all targets
10:27.47nevcairielwhere is global tps useful?
10:27.52nevcairieli dont see the point
10:28.00cncfanaticstanking multiple targets that dont have the same name I guess
10:28.16Grum<nevcairiel> patch 2.4 will solve that problem, however <-- how?
10:28.24[dRaCo]mod IDs
10:28.32Grummob-ids?
10:28.36[dRaCo]s/mod/mob/
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10:28.40Grumthat is nice
10:29.07Grumfinally ;D
10:29.16Grumseems such a trivial change though
10:29.28Grumwhy not in 2.2? :P
10:29.43nevcairielits not so trivial
10:29.47[dRaCo]there are a lot of mobs out there
10:29.50Grumthey have an id in memory
10:30.00Nargiddleyits a complete overhaul of the combat log, not trivial
10:30.02nevcairielthey will not expose unique ids
10:30.13nevcairielthe ids will be unique to your session
10:30.20nevcairielbut not overall unique
10:30.24Grumlol
10:30.35Grumso that will make a nice problem for Threat-1.0 then
10:30.40Grummatching the mobs along clients
10:30.41nevcairielhow so?
10:31.00cncfanaticsall clients will have the same id I guess
10:31.08Grumwell if they are client-sided then you have to get all clients in sync to see 'my mob X' was 'your mob Y'
10:31.11nevcairielprobably unique to the server or so
10:31.15nevcairielbut change when server reboots
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10:31.42Grumit doesnt matter how it's done- as long if 2 diff people ask for a unique identified wow will give back 'this was mob X'
10:31.49NarashBut I think I could use KTM to show my Global TPS and Omen for my TPS on a certain target, that should be no problem. But what about the synchronization? I've read that KTM and Omen work together perfectly, but we've encountered several "/ktm reset" problems during Reliquary of Souls P2 and Illidan P3, the Threat of the Omen users just didn't reset.
10:31.53Grumcan just be a simple counter orso
10:32.00GrumLOL
10:32.08GrumKTM and Omen do *NOT* work together at all :D
10:32.12nevcairielktm and omen working together perfectly?
10:32.20nevcairielyou should ask the KTM author, to not block omen
10:32.23Grumand i mean not at all in the least bit - using KTM will completely *WRECK* any Omen data shown
10:32.25nevcairielthen we can _maybe_ talk :P
10:32.25NarashSome people in my guild sais that :)
10:32.29orionshockGrum: did he finaly rip out the ktm> omen comms?
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10:33.04GrumKTM still does it per 'master target' or 'global' .. which is not compatible with Omen at all
10:33.09orionshocktho this is true :"Grum>and i mean not at all in the least bit - using KTM will completely *WRECK* any Omen data shown"
10:33.10Grum(or with Threat-1.0 for that matter)
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10:33.40Grumif you are a serious raiding guild - force people to use Omen (or Threat-1.0 - last time i'm typing that)
10:33.43Grumthey cant use KTM
10:34.00orionshockhumm.. finaly come down to the KTM or OMEN battle eh?
10:34.11Grumthere is no battle, Omen is better on every front
10:35.19Grumeventbased versus polling, .5s faster on updating, multiple targets, actually being developed, just 'needing 1 lib' to work
10:35.20orionshockhehe
10:35.22cncfanaticsKTM sucks, is a memory hog, lacks features
10:35.28Grumno more stupid 'omgf i forgot mastertarget'-wipes
10:35.47CIA-2203phanx * r48985 10Automaton/modules/ (Rez.lua Summon.lua):
10:35.47CIA-22Automaton:
10:35.47CIA-22- Rez: added option to not auto-accept druid resurrections
10:35.47CIA-22- Summon: added option to set delay times
10:35.47CIA-22- Summon: added option to STFU
10:37.04GrumWhat is the best way to get 'Large Brilliant Shards' (55-60 blue disenchant drop)
10:37.11Grumbecause AH prices are outrageous
10:37.29NarashI farmed about 5k gold in a week farming stratholme scarlet part
10:37.49Grumhehe just getting orbs and shards and cloth?
10:37.49Narash8g / shard + 20g / orb + 20g drops/greys
10:38.05Grumsolo .. or?
10:38.07NarashYep :)
10:38.12NarashTakes about 40min
10:38.17Grumpaladin? ;
10:38.19Narash100-200g / run
10:38.23NarashNope, T6 Feraldruid ;)
10:38.29Grumhehe
10:38.38Grum100200g? that is nice! =D
10:39.06NarashI was on the raid standby list last week when we were raiding black temple
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10:39.12NarashI farmed about 1000g in 6 hours :P
10:39.16cncfanaticsmeh, WTB
10:39.18Grumhehe
10:39.25cncfanaticsactualy, I need a lvl 70 char on a decent server
10:39.32charonmorning
10:39.51Grumbut Narash there is no good reason to want to see global tps :D
10:40.00NarashWell
10:40.08Grummight be nice to see 'threat' for every mob you are currently engaging
10:40.15Grumand being able to select that mob through that window
10:40.22Grumso you can effectively multi-tank targets
10:40.26cncfanatics<PROTECTED>
10:40.58GrumAce3: The defining characteristics of "design by committee" are needless complexity, internal inconsistency, logical flaws, banality, and the lack of a unifying vision.
10:41.01Grum? =D
10:41.11NarashWe've been using KTM since we killed onyxia for the first time, we killed Kel'Thuzad with KTM, Kael'Thas with KTM, Archimonde and every single encounter Black Temple except Illidan
10:41.26cncfanaticsNarash, guild ?
10:41.31NarashThe Omen<->KTM discussion came up when we were attempting to defeat those two elementals in P2
10:41.41GrumNarash: now use omen and see how much it will do for you ;D
10:41.51Grumit seriously positively rocks
10:41.51NarashWell
10:41.56cncfanatics!api getuid
10:41.56ThraeBotcncfanatics: Could not find a relevant page. Perhaps you could be so kind as to create one? http://www.wowwiki.com/API_getuid
10:42.27NarashWe only Raid BT and Hyjal and I don't see an encounter where Omen would be an advantage
10:42.52NarashAlright, the bars look nicer
10:42.53Narash:p
10:42.54GrumNarash: does any encounter have more than 1 mob?
10:42.58NarashYes
10:43.03cncfanaticsthen u'll get more with Omen ;)
10:43.09Grumthen you will have an advantage with omen
10:43.11Grumperiod :D
10:43.15cncfanaticshow to get the UID of a table ? meh
10:43.19NarashThe problem is
10:43.30Narashthat those mobs always have the same name
10:43.33Grumcncfanatics: stringfy it!
10:43.44NarashIn hyjal, there are 5? different kinds of mobs
10:44.00Narashand the threat always gets mixed up
10:44.08GrumNarash: still you get an advantage - because it slurps less cpu/memory, updates *way* faster (just try it - you'll be surprised)
10:44.32NarashI always have 50+ FPS, that's not a problem :D
10:45.01cncfanaticsur FPS has nothing totaly nothing to do with the speed KTM / Omen can update
10:45.12Narash"because it slurps less cpu/memory"
10:45.12Narash:P
10:45.19Xinhuanwell as far as i can see, Omen can track multiple unique targets, KTM can't. KTM shows global threat, Omen can't.
10:45.20Xinhuanok?
10:45.27Grumno
10:45.39GrumOmen can do global threat - but who frikkin cares for that?
10:45.45NarashHOW? :(
10:45.49NarashI do! :D
10:45.50XinhuanNarash alreadygave an example
10:45.53Grumusing KTM data =D
10:45.56Narashdoh
10:45.56Xinhuanof why global threat is needed
10:46.19Xinhuan[9/15 18:21:44] <Narash> We use a paladin tank who tanks all of them with consecration
10:46.20Xinhuan[9/15 18:21:57] <Narash> The mobs all have the same name, so they alle use the same threat pool
10:46.20Xinhuan[9/15 18:22:13] <Narash> he has about 300 tps on each ghoul, which results in a total of 3600 tps
10:46.21GrumXinhuan: the point he made boiled down to 'we cant track individual mobs'
10:46.50Xinhuanand isn't that what i repeated?
10:46.50Grumif you could track individual mobs that problem would be solved
10:46.54Xinhuan[9/15 18:43:24] <Xinhuan> well as far as i can see, Omen can track multiple unique targets, KTM can't. KTM shows global threat, Omen can't.
10:47.10Grumseeing global threat has no advantages! :D
10:47.19Grumonly for 'ego petting'
10:47.22Xinhuanhe just gave the advantage
10:47.30Xinhuanor a pally using aoe consecrate to tank
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10:47.33Grumwhat is the advantage of showing 3600tps?
10:47.45Grumof you do over 300tps on 1 mob you will pull it of the tank
10:47.52Grumand that is what matters
10:47.53cncfanaticsGrum, ehm, no
10:48.01cncfanaticsI can tank about, infinite mobs at 700tps each
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10:48.21Grumthe mobs will not stick on the paladin unless you do 3600tps on a single one
10:48.30Grumso why show 3600? if you are actually doing 300
10:49.17Grumif the 'global' threat gets applied to every target - i'd consider it a bug =D
10:49.17Neeblerhttp://www.entropiauniverse.com/movies/crytechflash/CRYENGINE_DEMO.html
10:49.20Neeblerooo la la
10:50.29Xinhuanso what does KTM show, when a pally consecrates?
10:50.54orionshockOmen has a "GLOBAL" threat list
10:51.14Xinhuandoes KTM do polling in an attempt to only count each tick once, no matter how many targets it hits?
10:51.18orionshockprovided that 5 mobs have the same name then they'll have the same threat table
10:51.35CodayusI'm pretty sure KTM breaks with multiple mobs with the same name too.
10:51.50CodayusOr rather, I'd think it should break.  I haven't tested it.
10:51.51orionshockCodayus:  it does
10:52.28NarashCodayus, that's why we wanted to use Omen
10:52.35NarashI don't know if you know the Illidan encounters
10:52.42CodayusYeah.  It's unavoidable really.  Your combat log shows 6x"Your consecrate hits Foo for 500".  You've got to be clever as hell to fix that.
10:52.55Grumyes for now- they are adding mod-ids in 2.4 so it seems
10:52.57CodayusI know it.  No thread mod can work there right now AFAIK.
10:53.04Grumso *then* we have accurate threat for *any* mob
10:53.29Xinhuanso does narash still have any argument for KTM being better then?
10:53.58CodayusThe thing is, you don't want GLOBAL threat there at all, you want accurate single target threat, no?
10:54.01Grumno, nor an argument for global threat unless the 'aoe' mechanics are 'wrong' (strangely different than something else)
10:54.22GrumCodayus: that's my point :)
10:54.24NarashAlright, another example, mount Hyjal again
10:54.42NarashWith KTM I usually calculate my threat like that :
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10:55.24NarashWhen I maul/mangle one target all the time, I have about 1k TPS on that certain targets, swipe hits all of them producing about 166 tps on each target (depending on whether it hits often or not)
10:56.07NarashNow what I do is look at my mangle/maul casts and by calculating how much TPS those two spells produce I know how much of my TPS must come from the swipe spells
10:56.11Zarielfucking logic check is doing my head in =/
10:56.21NarashAnd I know how much tps i have on the other two adds
10:56.42orionshockpift threat logic
10:56.46Xinhuanwell isn't that a tanking issue? the other players in the raid are not interested in that
10:56.53Xinhuanthey are only interested in accurate threat on a permob basis
10:56.58orionshocki do my thing - if you pull aggro you doing to much damage - scale back :P
10:57.08Xinhuani am quite hardpressed to find any reason that ktm is better than omen in any way
10:57.20Xinhuanin fact KTM author refuses to accept omen data while omen accepts ktm data
10:57.54sag_ich_nichtactually
10:57.58sag_ich_nichtKTM accepts omen data
10:57.59sag_ich_nichtlern2read
10:58.11sag_ich_nichtit just doesn't accept fake version responses from Omen.
10:58.23Xinhuanreally?
10:58.26CodayusHmm.  Okay, granted, Omen doesn't show threat for two mods at once...  Although TBH, our tanks mostly seem to ignore threat when tanking; they're going all out all the time.  However, I'm not a tank, and I'm not in Hyjal.
10:58.55sag_ich_nichtXinhuan yes.
10:58.59cncfanaticsI don't bother watching threat during encounters when I tank either
10:59.05cncfanaticsI jsut got it installed so our dps doesnt overnuke
10:59.13sag_ich_nichtanyway
10:59.15sag_ich_nichtOmen is nice
10:59.16sag_ich_nichtand all
10:59.26Codayussag_ich_nicht: Half right.  It doesn't accept any version responses from Omen, NOR version responses from KTM if you have Omen installed.  Quite stupid.  You're right that it accepts Omen threat data.
10:59.29Xinhuantanks shouldn't have to care about how much tps they generate - only that they generate as much as they can
10:59.44sag_ich_nichtbut the problem is that it is BUGGED(for like 0.001% of the users)
10:59.54CodayusBut since they calculate it in different ways, it's not hugely useful.  KTM data will taint Omen fairly badly if you listen to it, and probably visa versa for all I know.
10:59.54sag_ich_nicht~poke Antiarc
10:59.55purlACTION cuts down a small tree, sneaks up behind Antiarc, pokes Antiarc repeatedly, hilarity ensues.
10:59.57nevcairielso is KTM
11:00.01nevcairielfor a higher percentage
11:00.02nevcairiel:P
11:00.15sag_ich_nichttrue
11:00.43sag_ich_nichti hate it, i zone into an instance or azeroth/outland and Omen stops working and i have to /reloadui to fix it
11:00.49sag_ich_nichtand nobody so far has found out why
11:00.59sag_ich_nichthttp://loliserv.org/~afora/OmenBugInterface.rar
11:01.07CodayusHmm, most odd.
11:01.09sag_ich_nichtif anyone wants to bother and try to debug it
11:01.44sag_ich_nichtit also features a lot of other weird, strange bugs in other addons included, and altho this pack is already a bit dated(~2 weeks or so) these are still there, too.
11:03.04Fisker-~seen vhaar
11:03.05purli haven't seen 'vhaar', Fisker-
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11:05.22alcoholhow come show all stopped working on files.wowace ?
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11:06.59purlhereby declares orionshock a troll
11:07.00cncfanaticswe locked u out, alcohol, only dsnt work for u
11:07.06orionshocklol
11:07.36alcoholoh, the show all link on the bottom of the page does work
11:07.38alcoholjust not the top one
11:07.54cncfanaticshmmm, I need ckk now :o
11:11.54CIA-2203cncfanatics 07Rock * r48986 10FlexBar2/FlexBar2/ (13 files in 11 dirs): FlexBar2: Rock port, not completely working yet
11:12.45cncfanaticscan someone tell ckk to ping me when he logs in
11:12.59alcoholwhat's a nice replacement for EasyRaid ?
11:13.04Xinhuanyou can botmail him
11:13.09Xinhuanwith ~botmail
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11:17.47cncfanaticstime to get dinner
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11:20.37orionshockalcohol: i use x-perl raid frames
11:21.03CIA-2203mikk 07Alpha * r48987 10Ace3/ (6 files in 4 dirs):
11:21.03CIA-22Ace3 - ACE-33
11:21.03CIA-22- AceEvent callback internals pulled out to CallbackHandler-1.0 standalone
11:21.03CIA-22- Modified AceEvent tests to pull in Callbackhandler also
11:21.03CIA-22- Deleted AceEvent-3.0-CallbackHandler test folder
11:22.45Narashcu :))
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11:23.23orionshockwtf? ace event not doing call backs?
11:23.42orionshock.. isn't that like seperating the heads and tail's side of the same penny?
11:24.34nevcairielwhy?
11:27.10orionshockjust seems like thats what it's doing
11:27.30nevcairielthats what like all libs with callbacks do
11:27.32nevcairielso its win-win
11:27.37nevcairieland no loss for aceevent
11:27.44sag_ich_nichthttp://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html;jsessionid=75BFE1D282F5C1117AE3DA74F36FF736?topicId=1602233006&pageNo=1&sid=1#18
11:27.45sag_ich_nichtgod damn it
11:27.49sag_ich_nichttell them to NOT fix it.
11:28.01sag_ich_nichtthat's a god damn feature, not a bug, and it harms nobody.
11:32.30orionshockLOL
11:32.55orionshocktbh that's kinda funny to see a blue explaining how to do an expoit
11:33.07sag_ich_nichtyeha
11:33.09sag_ich_nicht*yeah
11:33.16sag_ich_nichtnow post that they shouldn't fix it.
11:33.27sag_ich_nichtthe more post, the likelier it is they won't.
11:33.29sag_ich_nichtgo!
11:33.35orionshocktempted
11:33.42orionshockwhat do i get out of this deal?
11:33.57sag_ich_nichtbeing able to continue to moonwalk?
11:34.27sag_ich_nicht(Hint: this is also a very silent threat about breaking your legs.)
11:34.29orionshocki need someone to fix my quest mod
11:34.56sag_ich_nichti can't.
11:35.00sag_ich_nichti'm a tester.
11:37.04orionshockpift
11:37.15orionshockbrake my legs - i need the money :P
11:37.35orionshock~seen phanx
11:37.36purlphanx <n=phanx133@71-210-80-180.blng.qwest.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 25d 10h 17m 27s ago, saying: 'Okay, I think I got it this time. :S'.
11:37.51orionshockdang she never shows up here
11:39.17cncfanaticsbk, yo all
11:42.17Lukianhmm I just thought of a bulk mail feature
11:43.12cncfanaticshmmm, anywhere I can check the average queue time of a server ?
11:43.46LukianI don't believe you cna
11:43.56Lukianthat's what population is meant to tell you
11:44.00cncfanaticsmeh
11:44.08cncfanaticsI want a damn full server, but don't want queues either :)
11:44.28Lukianread the forums then, and perhaps use warcraftrealms.net
11:44.47Lukianhmm, wrong link
11:44.53cncfanaticsKazzak pvp
11:44.54cncfanaticshmmm
11:45.01Lukian.com
11:45.01sbkazzak eu?
11:45.49cncfanaticsyea
11:45.53cncfanaticsi'm EU :)
11:46.05cncfanaticsu on that server sb ? :o
11:46.49sbno ;)
11:47.00cncfanaticsphew
11:47.02sbbut thats where that 7000 eur rogue was transferred ;p
11:47.28sbdw warglaives and stuff ;)
11:48.07Lukian7000 eur?
11:48.30sbyup
11:48.38alcoholwtf is that rogue wearing then ?
11:48.39cncfanaticsmooo, i'm rolling a rogue I think
11:48.45cncfanaticsalcohol; twin blades of azinoth
11:48.50Zarielhow do you save a variable and put it into a table
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11:48.57Zariellike m = 15
11:49.11sbalcohol: 4/5 t6, dw illidan legendary, ...
11:49.18Zarielt = {new="10", old="m"}
11:49.25sbsee http://www.sk-gaming.com/scene/13220/
11:49.40cncfanaticsok, its decided, I'm rolling a rogueh
11:49.42cncfanaticswish meh luck :p
11:49.57nevcairielthat you guys cant stick to one char :P
11:51.12cncfanaticsall my chars are on dead servers
11:51.18cncfanaticsI need active servers xD
11:51.44nevcairielcopy your char then
11:51.49nevcairieland dont start over
11:52.10cncfanaticsyea, I got money coming out of my ears :)
11:52.23cncfanaticsI also want to try out pvp servers, which I can't without rerolling
11:52.32Zarielanyone?
11:54.00charonZariel: {old=m} ?
11:54.15Zariellol thanks :)
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11:54.52charonno offense but i suggest you read a few lua tutorials :)
11:59.10cncfanaticsagree
12:00.10orionshockeek - how do you trunkate a number in lua?
12:00.16cncfanaticsanyone have one of those nifty lvl'ing guide for a horde rogue ?
12:00.22cncfanaticsorionshock, trunkate being ?
12:00.33cncfanaticsu could round it down
12:00.41orionshockie  "10.33333"  =>  "10"
12:00.41cncfanaticsif thats what u mean
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12:00.51orionshockrounding works
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12:01.00CIA-2203killermiles * r48988 10TweakHub_Reputation/ (7 files in 2 dirs):
12:01.00CIA-22TweakHub_Reputation
12:01.00CIA-22- Initial Import
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12:02.51CIA-2203killermiles * r48989 10TweakHub_Reputation/Libs/:
12:02.51CIA-22TweakHub_Reputation
12:02.51CIA-22- Added Externals
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12:10.17orionshockgod i wish bliz would release a wow-lua-interface compiler, it would make making mods easier
12:12.06orionshockcncfanatics:  how would one "round" said number?
12:12.45charonmath.floor()
12:13.21Xinhuanmath.floor(number + 0.5)
12:13.22Dynomorionshock: what would that do
12:13.38Xinhuanwell floor() is enough, don't need the math. prefix
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12:14.32Dynom14:10 < orionshock> god i wish bliz would release a wow-lua-interface compiler, it would make making mods easier
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12:14.50baer_Dynom: /sign'd
12:15.01Zarielmath.ceiling() should round up
12:15.05Xinhuanwould be a whole lot easier if wow supported a sandbox mode
12:15.10orionshockthat way we'd be able to "Compile" the addon and throw events and varables at it with out having to have a client or reload the interface a bazillion times
12:15.10Xinhuanwithout having to login
12:15.15Zarielmath.ceil
12:15.16DynomXinhuan: ye
12:16.02Xinhuanstill its difficult to test the effects of an addon without actually running it in game
12:16.06orionshockfloor(v) does nothing - got to put it in a value
12:16.31baer_hmm... CCBreaker still causes trouble.
12:16.40Dynomye it does
12:16.44Dynomlua errz
12:16.58DynomI want to make babies with the dude who wrote win2vnc
12:16.59Xinhuanit does in wow orionshock
12:17.10Xinhuanfloor() is a shortcut for math.floor() inside wow
12:17.24Xinhuanbut not in standalone lua
12:17.25orionshockright but..
12:17.35orionshocklua> floor(10.495)
12:17.35cladbotorionshock: 10,
12:17.44Xinhuanwell maybe it works too heh
12:17.57orionshockwell the bot says it does but in wow you have to do x = floor(v)
12:18.00Nargiddleyclad has some of the same aliases set
12:18.11Xinhuanyeah so you just do v = floor(v)
12:18.24orionshocki  reilized that ..
12:18.55orionshocki got a small addon to put a number over the cap bar for eots and wPvP
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12:26.04orionshocklua> 100*121
12:26.04cladbotorionshock: 12100
12:26.56charonlua> 2+2
12:26.56cladbotcharon: 4
12:27.07charonnow somebody convince the bot it's 5, please
12:27.34nevcairielpurl, 2+2 is 5
12:27.35purlnevcairiel: i already had it that way
12:27.44nevcairielpurl > cladbot
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12:31.41cncfanaticspurl, 2+2 ?
12:31.41purl2+2 is, like, 5
12:31.52cncfanaticspurl, 1+1 ?
12:31.53purlfrom memory, 1+1 is 3 for large values of 1
12:31.54Zarielarf arf
12:31.54Zariel=/
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12:32.13cncfanaticsnow thats a bot :p
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12:32.36orionshocknow can you convince it that 1+1 = 0?
12:32.37sag_ich_nichtwhat's a good spelldmg/crit value for an elemental shaman
12:32.53nevcairielpurl, 1+1 is 0 aswell
12:32.53purl...but 1+1 is already something else...
12:33.28nevcairielpurl, 1+1 is also 0
12:33.28purlokay, nevcairiel
12:33.29cryogenfail
12:33.29nevcairiellol
12:33.29orionshockpurl: 1+1 = 0
12:33.29cryogendid we break it?
12:33.31cryogenbah
12:33.33nevcairiel~1+1
12:33.34purl[1+1] 3 for large values of 1, or 0
12:33.40cryogen13:33 <purl> Someone already said that 1 seconds ago
12:33.53orionshocklol - purl's coping an attitude
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12:35.19orionshocki wonder if purl can do basic algebra
12:35.33nevcairieli dont think so
12:35.43nevcairielpurl, calculate 7 + 4
12:35.55sag_ich_nicht~calculate 7+4
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12:36.03sag_ich_nichtdamn.
12:36.05nevcairielthats the same thing
12:36.10sag_ich_nichtpurl, why can't you calculate.
12:36.12Zarielwhy does aceevent suddenly not like the event i register =/
12:36.14Zarielgrrrr
12:36.18orionshock~solve for n m = (n/100)*121
12:36.19purlACTION grits her teeth while attempting to solve for n m = (n/100)*121
12:36.34orionshockit's a her .. figures...
12:37.00ZarielAceEvent-2.0: Cannot register event "ZONE_CHANGED" to method "ZONE_CHANGED", it does not exis
12:37.02Zariel??
12:37.08Ixchaelwhoa, a lot more people in here than I thought :) Hello everybody
12:37.10nevcairielyour method does not exist
12:37.52Zarielit does
12:37.52Zarielfunction zoner:ZONE_CHANGED()
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12:39.25orionshockapparently not...
12:39.37Zarielidd
12:40.02orionshockwell one of 2 things is going on here.
12:40.14orionshock1) your lying to us :P
12:40.18orionshock2) it's really not there :P
12:40.42Zariel:)
12:40.45orionshock3) you spelled it wrong
12:40.48Zarielsec ill commit it
12:40.54cncfanaticsor
12:40.55orionshock10pts
12:41.01cncfanaticsyou declare ur function after registering the event
12:41.05cncfanaticsshld be declared before
12:41.21cncfanaticshello lxchael :p welcome ^^
12:41.31orionshockcncfanatics:  i do that all the time and it dosn't bitch
12:41.43IxchaelHello :)
12:41.53Zarielcncfanatics, thanks a lot :D
12:42.30IxchaelHow long does it usually take to get your SVN account? Should I wait by my inbox or come back next week? :)
12:42.35cncfanaticsZariel, np, silly mistake of new progammers :)
12:42.43Zariel:)
12:42.47cncfanaticslxchael, if u bother Kaelten u can get it in minutes
12:43.05IxchaelAhh
12:43.09orionshocki had a post about svn accounts...
12:43.30IxchaelWell I don't want to bother anyone, was just curious -- I can be patient when I want to
12:43.45Zarielattempt to call upvalue 't' (a table value)
12:43.47orionshockhttp://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=8026.msg135915#msg135915
12:43.49orionshockthere it is
12:43.53Zarielthis programming thing is..
12:44.01cncfanaticsu'd get that error if u did
12:44.05cncfanaticst = {}; t();
12:44.33Zarielim trying to declare a table, put a value in and then put another in and compare them
12:44.42cncfanaticswhy would u use a table for that ?
12:44.43Zariellocal t = {}
12:44.44orionshock?
12:44.51Zarielfor k,v in pairs(t) do
12:44.51Zarielif t(current) == t(new) then self:Print("WOOT") end end
12:44.51cncfanaticswhy bother with tables ?
12:44.57orionshockZariel: dude KISS - Keep it simple, stupid
12:45.04cncfanaticseh, thats not how u take tables Zariekl
12:45.08Ixchaelheh you think the powers that be should get to know people better before giving write access - not a bad idea I suppose
12:45.21cncfanaticsno need to even use tables for that
12:45.25cncfanaticsand u shld read some about lua syntax :)
12:45.32Zarieli have been
12:45.37orionshockIxchael: more like ... you should tell them wtf your going to do before they give you the keys to the city
12:45.43orionshock.. then again look at UD strat....
12:45.50orionshockwe give everyone a key
12:46.58Ixchaelorionshock: that is probably something that people only do when necessary (e.g. someone abused it)
12:47.33Wobin_Well the nice thing about svn is that we can roll back any malicious changes
12:47.33orionshockZariel:   for k,v in pairs(t) do ; if t[v] == t[v][k] then; self:Print("Woot... this did nothing") end end
12:47.41Wobin_and we have records as to who screws up what
12:48.05Wobin_also, there -are- projects that have been locked to public access
12:48.09IxchaelIf you are curious about me, though, I'm planning on uploading 2 existing addons of mine. They are available online so you could always check them out first if you want :)
12:48.56IxchaelI recently migrated them to Ace (and never looked back) and want my users to be able to use the updater to keep them up-to-date
12:49.11orionshockwhen i appied for my svn access i stated in my email what'd be doing with it... figured it only made sense; for an existing dev linking you addons in distribution would be similar..
12:49.14IxchaelPlus, it's nice to have them under source control :)
12:49.21orionshock*applied
12:49.22Wobin_s'true
12:49.24CIA-2203sayclub * r48990 10Automaton/modules/ (Rez.lua Summon.lua):
12:49.24CIA-22Automaton:
12:49.24CIA-22- Updated localization koKR
12:49.55orionshock<3 sayclub... and the like - one thing i like bout the AceSVN is the free translations
12:50.14orionshockset you addon up to be localized and with in about 2 weeks - poof - you got em
12:50.51orionshockwell nn all
12:51.04Ixchaelsee you around, orionshock
12:54.37Recluseis there a way to have the wowace forums take you to the post you just made, rather than back to the forum topic page after posting a reply?
12:56.17Wobin_The wowace forums are pretty crappy really
12:56.27Wobin_I wish there was some better open source forum software around
12:56.51Zarielhttp://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=HVmEOoFwzXE
12:56.55Zarielwe love you dr freeman!
12:57.35Wobin_nice scansion
12:57.39Wobin_horrible voice =)
12:59.31Wobin_if he brought the song down four or five tones, it'd have been so much easier
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13:00.23CodayusWowace forums are run on SMF - which I actually kinda like.  :-)
13:00.33CodayusRecluse: Sure, it's an option in your profile.
13:00.40Wobin_I'd like to be able to ignore threads
13:00.42Reclusewhile(1) singinglessons++?
13:00.48Wobin_Recluse: totally =(
13:00.56Recluselol
13:01.14Reclusecodayus: ty, i'll go on a hunt XD
13:01.23CodayusProfile -> Look and Layout -> tick "Return to topics after posting by default."
13:01.46Wobin_=(
13:01.55Wobin_http://www.wow-loot.com wru?
13:03.08CodayusNow, being able to ignore threads would be interesting...
13:03.23Recluselol
13:04.21CodayusThere are packages (like mods) for SMF that let your ignore users or entire boards...
13:04.49Codayus...but A) Forum admin has to install packages, and B) Neither is what you describe.  Ah well.
13:06.16Wobin_hm
13:06.30Wobin_I'll just have to convince kaelten to move threads I want to ignore to "Wobin's Ignore Board"
13:07.22Zarielwhy
13:07.26Zarielis there never enough coffee in my mug
13:07.26Zarielffs
13:07.39Ixchaelhehe
13:07.57Wobin_Clearly you need a larger mug
13:08.12Wobin_(Note, I went that route, and ended up with a soup bowl =()
13:08.16Zarielhow do you apply a color to a string?
13:08.35Zariel|r|color text |r
13:08.36Zariel?
13:09.06CIA-2203charon * r48991 10Mangler/ (Mangler.lua Mangler.toc localization_enUS.lua): Mangler: prepare for localization
13:09.14Ixchaelin a chat message or tooltip/window?
13:09.37charonnow let's see if orionshock was right ;)
13:12.03Recluse->  |cAARRGGBBtext|r
13:12.06Zarielchat atm
13:12.24Zarielis it hex color code or?
13:12.27Ixchaelfor chat messages I believe the format is |cffffffff
13:12.40Ixchaelthe Fs being the hex code
13:12.45Ixchaelwith alpha I think
13:14.12CIA-2203fin * r48992 10Prat/Prat_Modules/modules/Editbox.lua:
13:14.12CIA-22Prat: Prat_Modules/modules/Editbox.lua:
13:14.12CIA-22<PROTECTED>
13:14.12CIA-22<PROTECTED>
13:14.12CIA-22<PROTECTED>
13:14.12Reclusewonder if you can nest colors |cff00ff00green|cff0000ffblue|rgreen|r
13:14.16CIA-22<PROTECTED>
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13:14.47Wobin_yes
13:14.48Ixchaelheh aggro from the translators
13:14.51Wobin_|r is just a reset
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13:15.59Recluse^.^
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13:19.47dodgaDid Blizz remove the option to promote somebody to a main tank via the raid UI?
13:20.00Ixchaeloh well, I'll be back - take care everybody
13:20.03charonguarding mine in AB: half the screen WoW so i can see flag and minimap, half the screen emacs with some .lua
13:20.29CIA-2203jaslaughter * r48993 10JasonQuest/ (Core.lua JasonQuest.toc LogFrame.lua ReadMe.txt):
13:20.29CIA-22JasonQuest:
13:20.29CIA-22- Frame is now movable (hold shift)
13:20.29CIA-22- Organized the options a bit
13:20.29CIA-22- Added DewdropLib as X-Embed, so everyone has the right-click menu
13:21.54CIA-2203jaslaughter * r48994 10JasonQuestFu/: JasonQuestFu: Initial import
13:22.17cncfanaticslol
13:22.26cncfanaticsvim > emacs though imo
13:24.13charonmy mind is stateless, i can't cope with vim ;P
13:24.50CIA-2203jaslaughter * r48995 10JasonQuestFu/ (JasonQuestFu.lua JasonQuestFu.toc Libs/): JasonQuestFu: Initial commit
13:25.14cncfanaticsget cream then
13:25.20cncfanaticsits a set of RLY nice macro's & stuff for vim
13:25.33cncfanaticsI don't use most advanced stuff of vim myself :)
13:26.21charonto be perfectly honest i've just used emacs for so many years that any other kind of keyboard mappings just scares me
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13:26.30Industrialnooooooo
13:26.35Industrialcream == crap :P
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13:27.09charoni'm the kind of guy who occasionaly hits C-x o in windows, hoping the last app would pop up
13:27.09Zarielself:Print("Zoner enabled "..|cFF0000"r" ..version|r)
13:27.19cncfanaticsIndustrial, why ?
13:27.25Zarieldoesnt seem to want to color it
13:27.38charonZariel: the colour escape is part of the string
13:27.39cncfanaticswhy do u bother with such silly print messages anyway ?
13:27.53Zariel..version..|r)
13:27.54Zariel?
13:28.09Industrialit takes out what makes vim good >_>
13:28.12cncfanaticsif ppl checked the load addon box for ur addon, they know it'll enable, no need to tell them at login
13:28.25Zarielits for personal gain :)
13:28.39cncfanaticssame applies to you ? :o
13:28.46cncfanaticsIndustrial, gvim is nice, but I rly need to theme it then :p
13:28.46charon"somestuff |cff000000"..somevariable.."|r"
13:28.50cncfanaticsmight bother setting it up some day
13:29.13Industrialcncfanatics: there's colorschemes :>
13:30.18Zariel<3 windowsblinds
13:30.21cncfanaticsand configure it ofc
13:30.28cncfanaticsZariel, windowblinds is a huge mem hog :)
13:30.35cncfanaticsand, i'm not in windows <3
13:30.42Zarieldont care about mem tbh
13:30.48Zarieland only uses like 11~mb iirc
13:31.04Zarieli want to swtich to linux but i just cant =/
13:31.42Industrialcncfanatics: this is why I dislike cream; On the freatures page there is listed; "Undo/Redo are unlimited (Ctrl+U and Ctrl+Y)." <-- as If the makers of cream made this possible, they just remapped C-u and C-y.
13:32.14IndustrialI dont want to be sold software - especially when I know that what they say isnt totally true :P
13:32.51Industrial"Quick key to exit (Ctrl+F4)." .. yeah
13:33.21Industrialits like saying "With Ace2 we made the wow itnerface event based"
13:33.32Industrialenjoy the benefits!
13:33.36Industrial</rant>
13:35.58Wobin_Industrial: Every time I see Cream, I can't help but mentally append "Schboogy and rock" to the end
13:36.02Wobin_Thus, I can never use it
13:36.42Wobin_Any program that can stick a Prince song in my head is clearly evil
13:36.53JoshBorkeclearly
13:38.33sag_ich_nichtAntiarc seriously fix Omen/Threat-1.0
13:38.39sag_ich_nichti'm getting 50k aggro values
13:38.41sag_ich_nichtfor no reason
13:38.47sag_ich_nichtand the tank is holding the aggro
13:38.50sag_ich_nichtwith like 6k aggro
13:38.51sag_ich_nicht-.-
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13:41.24clad|sleepwhat class, what spellsa re you using
13:41.31clad|sleepi suspect these details would be useful to him in "fixing" it :P
13:42.57Wobin_pfft
13:43.06Wobin_ungrounded claims to errors are always more efficeint
13:46.03sag_ich_nichtclad|sleep i'm screenshoting it all the time already
13:46.20clad|sleepyay
13:46.24sag_ich_nichtand it'd be fixed if i reloadui, the question is WHY it happens in the first place after zoning
13:46.35clad|sleepwell, give him a reproducable sequence of events
13:46.37clad|sleepand he can find out
13:46.40sag_ich_nicht...
13:46.42sag_ich_nichtlook
13:46.44clad|sleepthis is the fun thing with deterministic programming =)
13:46.45sag_ich_nichti already did
13:46.48sag_ich_nichtit's a very rare bug
13:46.53clad|sleepyou could have said that
13:46.56clad|sleepi'm making suggestions
13:47.49cncfanaticsZariel, u can switch to linux, why would u not ?
13:48.02Zarieleverything seems so tedious
13:48.15Zarieland when something doesnt work i dont have a clue what to do ^^
13:48.19cncfanaticsdepends on ur distro
13:48.24Zarieli use ubuntu
13:48.32cncfanaticsits okish
13:48.35cncfanaticsapt-get = win
13:48.36cncfanaticsdebian here
13:49.19cncfanaticsIndustrial, u just made me remove cream
13:49.30sag_ich_nichtclad|sleep: i've even uploaded my whole interface because it's so damn rare
13:49.31sag_ich_nichthttp://loliserv.org/~afora/OmenBugInterface.rar
13:49.34sag_ich_nichtbeen chasing it for months
13:49.38sag_ich_nichtstill haven't caught it
13:49.43clad|sleepodd
13:50.01sag_ich_nichtvery
13:50.04Industrialcncfanatics: \o/
13:50.05sag_ich_nichthappens after zoning
13:50.09sag_ich_nichtif you want, take a look
13:52.10cncfanaticshmmm
13:52.15cncfanaticswhat events trigger at zoning ?
13:52.18cncfanaticsmust be one of those
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13:53.29sag_ich_nichtyeah, but the other question is why it only happens to me and some other, very limited user count
13:53.43sag_ich_nichtmust come from some addon conflict
13:54.24cncfanaticsor ur saved vars are weird
13:54.29cncfanaticsu got any addons that mess with omen ?
13:54.42sag_ich_nichtonly TTK, but it happens without it too.
13:54.48sag_ich_nichtand it's not just omen
13:54.56sag_ich_nichtit's coming from Threat-1.0 itself it seems
13:55.05cncfanaticsweird weird weird
13:55.06cncfanaticsclass ?
13:55.59sag_ich_nichtpaladin, ret
13:56.03sag_ich_nicht!c eu gul'dan ruknor
13:56.05ThraeBotsag_ich_nicht: Ruknor, Level 70 Human Paladin (0/8/53). 8077 HP; 5088 Mana; 105 mana regen; 7 mp5; 8166 Armour; 1384 AP; 230.500 Melee DPS; 24.19% melee crit; 60 melee hit; 22 +spell dmg/heal; 43 holy dmg (65); 46 defense; 11.37% dodge; 5.76% block; 5 resilience; +33 all resists;[[ TBR: 1298 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/2hkom9 ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/3cuer8 ][ Updated: Sat Sep 15 10:09:07 2007 EST ]]
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13:56.19Chompersyou're a ret pally?
13:57.04sag_ich_nichtyes.
13:57.20cncfanaticsprot pally here, never ever had that bug, so its not paladinspecific I guess
13:57.25sag_ich_nichtyes.
13:57.35cncfanatics(my old main that is , was a prot pally)
13:57.42sag_ich_nichtthis might be 2 bugs that even maybe
13:57.47sag_ich_nichtsince normaly i don't get any aggro values at all
13:57.51sag_ich_nichti should get fraps and video it
13:58.51sag_ich_nichtalso i already cleaned out the saved vars for TTK/omen/threat-1.0
13:58.55sag_ich_nichtand reinstalled them
13:58.59sag_ich_nicht(the addons, that is)
13:59.00sag_ich_nichtdoesn't help
13:59.01sag_ich_nicht><
13:59.21cncfanaticstried removing ur whole WTF?
14:00.07sag_ich_nichtuh, no.
14:00.32sag_ich_nichti don't see the point, too.
14:00.41cncfanaticslogout, rename ur WTF to WTF_
14:00.46sag_ich_nichtif the var is corrupted, it must have a cause
14:00.46cncfanaticsthen login and check if it still happens
14:00.52sag_ich_nichtWobin_ stop using apt-get
14:00.56Wobin_or aptitude
14:01.02sag_ich_nichtgood.
14:01.05cncfanaticsapt-get is made of pure win
14:01.07sag_ich_nichtno
14:01.10sag_ich_nichtapt-get is fail
14:01.12sag_ich_nichtaptitude is win
14:01.13sag_ich_nicht:D
14:01.15Wobin_I usually say apt-get cause people recognise it =)
14:01.36sag_ich_nichtcncfanatics that would require finding a group
14:01.38sag_ich_nichtfor an instance
14:01.43sag_ich_nichtthat is all willing to help me debug
14:01.49sag_ich_nichtOH WAIT THAT'S NEVER GOING TO HAPPEN
14:02.04cncfanaticseh, it does ?
14:02.11cncfanaticsu can't ask someone in ur guild to partyinv you
14:02.20cncfanaticsor heck, go solo in some lowbie instance :)
14:02.23sag_ich_nichtnot on my server.
14:03.35cncfanaticssolo some lowbie instance
14:03.57sag_ich_nichtheh
14:04.28sag_ich_nichtneed a party, otherwise it won't happen, last time i checked
14:06.12cncfanaticsmeh
14:06.14cncfanaticsirritating lil bug
14:06.26cncfanaticstrigger the events that trigger when you join a party manualy then
14:07.51sag_ich_nicht*sigh*
14:08.08sag_ich_nichtor i could just wait until antiarc has time to take a look himself
14:08.29sag_ich_nichtsince i won't be able to find the cause anyway considering i have been trying for the last 2 months already
14:08.30sag_ich_nicht>-<
14:09.33charonmh, have you been able to verify that Threat has the right values?
14:09.40charoni.e. whether it's in threat or omen
14:10.09cncfanaticsshld be the first thing to do
14:10.58sag_ich_nichtmy tank sees the wrong values too.
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14:11.15sag_ich_nichtasked him in TS
14:11.56sag_ich_nichti think it's 2 bugs that are closely related to each other
14:12.03sag_ich_nichtone time not showing anything at all after zoning
14:12.06sag_ich_nicht(rare)
14:12.11sag_ich_nichtand one time show those crazy values
14:12.12sag_ich_nicht(rarer)
14:12.21charoni've seen the second one in fact
14:13.25charonbut we blamed it on a translation issue
14:13.32charonare you using the same locale client?
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14:18.31charoni have screenshots where i'm tanking against 2-3 times as much threat
14:18.40charonbut antiarc figured it would be a translation problem
14:21.12sag_ich_nichtwell
14:21.15sag_ich_nichti play on the enGB client.
14:21.16sag_ich_nichtso no
14:21.18sag_ich_nichtit's not.
14:21.48charonme too, but i'm on a german server and don't know anyone else who does
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14:25.59sag_ich_nichtso am i, but I generate those values ;)
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14:29.32charonhmm
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14:39.46Kaelteng'morning
14:40.06Zarielhi there
14:40.11Zarielnice changes on the files page over night :)
14:40.22Kaelten:)
14:40.28Kaeltenstill got a lot more planned
14:42.35charonmorning kaelten
14:42.45charonsag_ich_nicht: i notice he does some kind of hashing in the publish functions
14:43.36charonit's a long shot but collisions there would explain spurious bugs
14:43.53sag_ich_nichtmhm
14:43.55sag_ich_nichtpossible
14:46.06cncfanaticsyo Kaelten
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14:46.11cncfanaticswould u mind publishing august stats ? :)
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14:47.00Kaeltenas soon as I can get the script fixed :)
14:48.07HjalteIs there any debuffs i can give myself as a warlock?
14:48.11siIentiumI use the enGB client while my gf uses deDE, Threat-1.0 translations usually work perfectly, we only got an error thrown once when there was some conflicting translation (probably because of switching targets very quickly and loads of lag)
14:48.25siIentiumso I guess as long as you dont get errors, the translation system works
14:48.47cncfanaticstranslation system ?
14:48.58cncfanaticsas far as I know, threatlib sends raw numbers to other clients
14:49.03cncfanaticsso there's no translations at all done
14:49.10cncfanaticsat least between clients
14:49.14siIentiumThreat-1.0 creates tables of different mob name languages
14:49.29Fisker-stranglehold is actually funny
14:50.03siIentiumbecause there is no included database of mob names in different languages
14:50.46siIentiumso it usually checks who someone is targetting and assigns the names in the different clients' languages to each other
14:51.39siIentiumofc it doesnt translate ability names to send them, would be quite useless overhead
14:51.50Kuja^so i have a couple of translations (kinda) ready, question: when im going to get an svn account, is it ok to just commit them or should i let the author know about that?
14:52.40siIentiumsend them to him and suggest to commit them by yourself in the future if he wants, I'd say
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14:52.56cncfanaticsKuja^ its ok to just commit them, if ur 101054446164% sure ur not breaking anything at all
14:53.19Ironhandcan someone tell me whether there's a specific reason various Ace addons that modify item tooltips, only put it in the mouseover tooltip but not in the right-click tooltip for linked items?
14:54.05NickenyfikenWhat is a right click tooltip?
14:54.29Ironhandnot sure it's technically a tooltip - I mean the item info shown when you right-click an item in a chat window
14:54.42NickenyfikenAh
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14:57.02sag_ich_nichtyou can leftclick the items too.
14:57.04sag_ich_nichtalso
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14:57.40sag_ich_nichtsiIentium that behaviour might explain those value bugs.
14:57.50sag_ich_nichtshouldn't babble have those translations?
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15:13.10Gagoriansag_ich_nicht: Babble doesn't have mob name translations.
15:13.16GagorianOnly bosses
15:13.40sag_ich_nichtfail.
15:13.42sag_ich_nichtwell
15:13.48sag_ich_nichti think we all have something to do then
15:13.49sag_ich_nichtD:
15:13.50GagorianAll mobs in the game translated would be rather cumbersome :D
15:14.11sag_ich_nichtyeah well i don't think we have much of a choice... or just wait for 2.4
15:14.12sag_ich_nicht><
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15:17.47Synnethmods such as antagonist and quartz have a configuration menu that seems to be closely linked to the drop down menu you get with fubar. are they just using an ace feature to produce the menu system or will they have done their own?
15:18.04[Ammo]they use one options table
15:18.16[Ammo]which gets passed to the dropdown menu and to the waterfall menu
15:18.21[Ammo]hence they resemble eachother closely
15:18.43Synnethand this "waterfall menu" is part of ace?
15:19.59Synnethahh yes, found it. thanks [Ammo]
15:23.09Brunersis there a EOS quartermaster like ab/wsg etc?
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15:26.56sag_ich_nichtnope, Bruners.
15:27.11Synnethare there any recommended lua-friendly editors out there? i used scint a long time ago but i found it messed up newlines and other formatting a lot
15:28.20cncfanatic1vim ?
15:28.24cncfanatic1or notepad++
15:28.51Synnethvim is one of those things i never got round to appreciating
15:28.55Synnethill try notepad++ thanks
15:29.09NickenyfikenI use notepad++ for most file types
15:29.21NickenyfikenGot syntax highlighting for most types
15:29.26CIA-2203thexod * r48996 10ItemValue/ItemValue.lua:
15:29.26CIA-22ItemValue:
15:29.26CIA-22- Workaround for ItemValue.lua line 1696 error
15:29.54CodayusSciTE is decent for a lightweight text editor that workswith lua.  Cream (or other vim variant) is good.  There's a couple IDEs floating around based on Eclipse or in one odd case, Visual Studio...
15:30.02Codayus...I didn't have much luck with either.
15:30.40Codayusemacs is good if you lean that way, but the automatic indenting throws a wobbly over anonymous functions and similar syntax.
15:30.43nevcairielI'm pretty happy with Notepad++
15:30.51nevcairielbased in scintilla, same base as Scite
15:31.00Codayus*nod*
15:31.27CodayusI mostly use SciTE because it was the first editor I tried that didn't annoy me so much I found a new one.  :-)
15:31.40CodayusDoesn't mean it's the best.
15:33.05Synneththanks for the input, giving notepad++ a whirl first
15:34.13charonsag_ich_nicht: i kind of lost track of the discussion because of a group quest, but...
15:34.16charonhave you tried /dump AceLibrary("Threat-1.0"):DumpTranslationTable()
15:34.22charonwhen threat seems wrong?
15:34.27sag_ich_nichtnope
15:34.31sag_ich_nichti'll try it later :X
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15:35.15charondoing sethekk hc now, i'll keep my eyes open
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15:45.53charonsag_ich_nicht: never mind that. mobNameTranslations doesn't seem to have a function any more. no idea how he does that
15:46.47sag_ich_nichtoO
15:46.57sag_ich_nicht~hurt AnduinLothar
15:46.58purlACTION takes a large hammer and plays whack-the-mole on AnduinLothar's hands, laughing all the while
15:46.59sag_ich_nichterm
15:46.59sag_ich_nichtwait
15:47.00sag_ich_nichtwrong
15:47.02sag_ich_nichtsorry karl.
15:47.09sag_ich_nicht:(
15:47.13sag_ich_nicht~hurt Antiarc
15:47.13purlACTION takes a large hammer and plays whack-the-mole on Antiarc's hands, laughing all the while
15:47.22sag_ich_nichtfixed.
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15:54.58charonsag_ich_nicht: never mind the never mind... i'm wrong.
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15:57.22sag_ich_nichtwhat.
15:57.24sag_ich_nichtaowdjafopaskfosaf
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15:57.40charon~lart charon
15:57.40purlsteals charon's mojo
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15:58.25charonthere's an entire file devoted to translations
15:58.50charononly problem, he forgot to move DumpTranslationTable() there, meaning it looks at the wrong locals
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15:59.33sag_ich_nichtcharon are you serious?
15:59.38sag_ich_nichtthat's a major bug
15:59.48sag_ich_nichtif i see this right
16:00.09sag_ich_nichtif not
16:00.11sag_ich_nichtthen nvm
16:00.30sag_ich_nichtbecause i don't know what he's using the function for :X
16:01.18charonno it's not a major bug, since it's only a debugging call
16:01.59sag_ich_nichti figure Antiarc might abuse the dump call
16:02.00sag_ich_nicht>.>
16:02.06sag_ich_nichtcausing it to be buggy
16:02.17sag_ich_nichtif you know what i mean
16:02.17sag_ich_nicht>.>
16:02.29charonhow so? :)
16:03.02charonit does the equivalent of /dump <threat_table_variable>
16:03.11charonyou'd immediately notice any calls to it in the chat frame
16:03.12sag_ich_nichtmhm
16:03.15sag_ich_nichtk.
16:03.22sag_ich_nichti think i should eat something
16:03.25sag_ich_nichtand maybe drink something
16:03.28sag_ich_nicht~lart sag_ich_nicht
16:03.28purlsends a legion of lawyers after sag_ich_nicht's head
16:03.32sag_ich_nichtnoes
16:03.35Stan__langweilig
16:03.39sag_ich_nichtja
16:03.39Stan__fc
16:03.43Stan__:p
16:03.44sag_ich_nichtreparier mein omen
16:03.44sag_ich_nicht:(
16:04.15charonwenn ich wuesste wo anfangen :(
16:04.27Stan__sag_ich_nicht: ich hatte das auch, dass ich nie angezeigt wurde. einfach alles gelöscht und dann war wieder gut
16:04.45charonseems there are two separate issues
16:04.49charonone is not showing up yourself
16:04.57charonthe other, weird (too high) threat values
16:05.23charoni've seen the latter too
16:06.37sag_ich_nichtStan__: that doesn't work for me.
16:06.40sag_ich_nichtcharon well
16:06.51sag_ich_nichthttp://loliserv.org/~afora/OmenBugInterface.rar
16:06.53sag_ich_nichthave at it!
16:07.16charonnowai
16:07.26sag_ich_nichtit's pretty big tho.
16:07.39charonthat would be the least of all problems
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16:08.52Zariellol
16:08.57Zarielnew 5v5 tactic with 2 warlock
16:09.02Zarielmana drain and chain death coil gg
16:09.03Zariellol
16:10.22cncfanaticsyea, death coil has a 3 sec cd so u can rotate it
16:10.30charonsag_ich_nicht: to test your interface, i'd have to play with an interface i don't know, find a group for that, and then _play until it occurs_. each one of those might be fixable, but all three at the same time is asking a bit much
16:10.41charoni've got screenshots with impossible threat values though
16:10.47sag_ich_nichtcharon it instantly occures.
16:10.51sag_ich_nichtjust zone into an instance
16:10.52sag_ich_nichtbam
16:10.56sag_ich_nichtomen doesn't work properly.
16:11.27charonhmm.
16:11.35sag_ich_nichtalso you will find that my interface has all the keys still bound to the default action buttons by blizzard.
16:11.43charonas if mine were.
16:11.55sag_ich_nicht:P
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16:13.06Zarielhow do you run a function on even without ace?
16:13.10Funkeh`loes
16:13.41Zarielfunction name(onevent)?
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16:14.51cncfanaticsbleh, compiling ftl, takes ages
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16:17.57cncfanatics~seen ckknight
16:18.00purlckknight <n=ckknight@rrcs-74-62-251-185.west.biz.rr.com> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 9h 21m 8s ago, saying: 'alright, cya all later'.
16:26.01Zarielhow do you hook a function without ace?
16:27.09cncfanaticslocal oldfunc = FuncToHook()
16:27.27cncfanaticsFuncToHook = function() oldfunc(); ......... end;
16:27.41cncfanaticsu wld pass arguments & stuff as appropriate ofc
16:27.48cncfanaticsoh, and local oldfunc = FuncToHook() should really be local oldfunc = FuncToHook
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16:29.01Thrae12:40 < cncfanatics> FuncToHook = function(...) if oldfunc then oldfunc(...) end ................. end <-- fixed
16:29.03Wobin_><
16:29.38ThraeBehold the power of ...
16:30.21cncfanaticsgod, compiling wine sucks
16:30.23cncfanaticsslow shit
16:30.48ThraeZariel: ... allows you to send multiple arguments to a function, which you can use select() on to select which argument from the multiple arguments sent. It's ideal when hooking a function, because then you're set if the API changes and they add an additional argument / take one away.
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16:31.37ThraeZariel: If it's an event handler for a frame though (IE, OnShow, OnEvent, etc.), the hooking is a tiny bit different
16:31.46ThraeAll in all, hooking is pretty damn easy
16:31.53Zarielthanks
16:33.32cncfanatics:o sexy, itunes is gonna work with wine now
16:33.36Zarielim justing thinking that using aceevent to auto decline is duels is a bit much
16:33.55Wobin_Zariel: yes
16:36.11Zarielbut just trying to work out how to do it ^^
16:37.02Wobin_have a look at wowwiki
16:37.07Wobin_it has examples of hooking
16:37.13Wobin_and events
16:37.19Zarielye im reading it now
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16:39.51Recluseokay, i'm still confused about this whole ["*"] thing. could someone point me in the right direction, cause this doesn't work lol -> http://recluse.pastey.net/73886
16:41.00MoonWitchuhm what is actually the pastey? is it to drop code in for others to see?
16:41.09Wobin_MoonWitch: yes
16:41.16MoonWitchah thanks Wobin_
16:41.24Wobin_it's to prevent the channel from getting people pasting huge chunks of code in it =)
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16:41.42MoonWitchI thought that, but wasn't sure ... :)
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16:49.55cncfanaticsanyone a clue at what time ckk usualy logs in ?
16:50.22MoonWitchno clue cncfanatics
16:50.27alcoholwen he feels like it ?
16:50.31Tullerwhenever he's not off line, of course :P
16:51.02cncfanaticsbleh, need some of his help, got some rock bugs
16:52.27MoonWitchis there actually a thread on the forums for comments on the rock versions of his addons?
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16:52.59cncfanaticsno idea
16:55.35charonsag_ich_nicht: funny (or maybe not), the mage in my group didn't see any of my threat except that on GLOBAL, until i told her to /rl
16:57.32sag_ich_nichtoO
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17:03.09Lothaergreetings
17:05.37charonAntiarc/sag_ich_nicht: i have a small change to Threat-1.0 ready that puts DumpTranslationTable() in the right place again, do you mind if i commit that? or should i make a branch?
17:05.48charon(maybe someone else knows what the convention on wowace is?)
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17:08.03charon(my translation table seems fine though)
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17:17.28cncfanaticscharon, if ur 100% sure it won't break anything then its ok to commit it imo
17:17.36cncfanaticsas antiarc eh, hasnt logged in since ages
17:17.38cncfanatics~seen antiarc
17:17.40purlantiarc is currently on #wowi-lounge (9h 36m 45s) #wowace (9h 36m 45s), last said: 'SVN policy'.
17:17.54Lothaerhey cnc :P
17:17.55cncfanatics:o, he logged back in recently
17:17.56cncfanaticsnvm me :o
17:18.00cncfanaticsyo Lothaer
17:18.06Lothaerwats new?
17:18.22cncfanaticsnot much
17:18.24cncfanaticsrerolling :)
17:18.31Lothaerfrom wat to wat?
17:20.43cncfanaticsfrom paladin on a dead pve server to rogue on a full pvp server
17:21.00Lothaerur the reverse of me
17:21.36cncfanaticsI am N :o
17:21.38LothaerSpinebreaker is a mad so far behind PvE wise its not funny
17:21.44sag_ich_nicht[19:05] <charon> Antiarc/sag_ich_nicht: i have a small change to Threat-1.0 ready that puts DumpTranslationTable() in the right place again, do you mind if i commit that? or should i make a branch? <--i'm not deving it
17:21.47sag_ich_nichtcharon
17:21.48cncfanaticsmeh, kazzak has like 3 BT guilds
17:21.50sag_ich_nichtthe convention
17:21.52sag_ich_nichtis very easy
17:21.54cncfanaticsI won't roll on a server behind pve wise ofc
17:22.06sag_ich_nichtcharon: http://www.wowace.com/wiki/SVN_Rules#Committing_to_Addons_that_aren.27t_yours
17:22.17LothaerSpinebreaker only 1 guild has hit Hyjal and thats horde side
17:22.36Lothaerthe same guild is also the only 1 to complete both The Eye and SSC
17:23.06cncfanaticsmeh, sad
17:23.10cncfanaticsroll with me on kazzak ? :o
17:23.29Lothaerand im stuck ina  new guild that can bearly beat moroes /sigh /fustrate /anger /wrists
17:23.39cncfanaticscome reroll with meh xD
17:23.52Lothaerive put too much time and effort into my priest lol
17:23.59cncfanaticsu did ?
17:24.10MoonWitchnow I have to ask, are ou all lvl70?
17:24.12MoonWitchyou*
17:24.13cncfanaticsu realise that someone that started wow a month ago can be further then u if his server is active dont u ?
17:24.23Lothaeryes lol
17:24.26cncfanaticsthen reroll :p
17:24.29MoonWitch<< lvl 37
17:24.33Lothaerlol
17:24.47MoonWitchand I have about 5 lvl 15 - 19's too
17:24.49MoonWitchlol
17:25.06charonsag_ich_nicht: i know, i've had to sign them, but i was hoping someone would say something else than a categorical "no"
17:25.08cncfanaticsmeh, I got 2 70s
17:25.12cncfanaticsbut they're both on dead pve servers
17:25.14Lothaerive been playing almost 2 yearrs the only time i saw inside BWL was when it was a Seraphim PUG.
17:25.16cncfanaticsI want pvp server now, and a living one
17:25.26cncfanaticsLothaer, I got to twins preaq40
17:25.30cncfanaticsbut I was in a quite elitist guild
17:25.33cncfanaticsdamn I <3'd them
17:25.33Lothaeri dont like PvP much reallt
17:25.42cncfanaticsI do like *real* PvP
17:25.46MoonWitchI got scared on pvp servers, or rather annoyed, lvl 6 and got corpse camper for 3 hrs.
17:25.51cncfanaticslike, xroads zerging, orgrimmar / ironforge raids etc
17:25.54Lothaeri liek world ganking lol
17:26.01cncfanaticsthats why i'm going pvp server ;)
17:26.05Lothaernothing like beating on a lvl 30 lol
17:26.46MoonWitchwhen you're lvl6 and getting butchered by a warrior who takes on all the guards in durotar at once... it's not that fun
17:26.52cncfanaticsrofl
17:26.57cryogenyour own stupid fault for attacking
17:26.59cryogen:p
17:27.09Lothaermy all time favourite thing to do is get on the Zeppline from Grom'Gol to UC and Shadow Meld then <C people off when it gets to STV or UC if they're flagged
17:27.28LothaerMC*
17:27.35MoonWitchit was my very first character..  and I didn't attack ... some dude yelled out for healing and I did
17:27.42LothaerROFL
17:27.48cryogenlol
17:28.04MoonWitchnow I just let them die don't give a rats ass anymore
17:28.35Lothaerever been NE Hunter Shadow Ganking?
17:28.44MoonWitchuhm no
17:28.45rob`I leveled two characters to 60 on a pvp server, done with that shit. :)
17:30.09Lothaerroll a Night Elf Hunter and level to about 20, put ur pet u have at the time in the stable, then goto a newbie zone and tame one of those pets, then tell it to stay (dont change its name) and u run off and Shadow Meld, when you see a lvl 1 attack it the flagg to you and u 1 shot them
17:30.35Lothaerits even funnier @ lvl 60 and u use Beatial Wrath and hte pet and its kicks the shit out of the lvl 1
17:30.55rob`you can do the same as an engineer with exploding sheep.
17:30.55cryogenthats evil
17:31.10MoonWitchI see you guys are evil
17:31.16cryogenbut you must be pretty bored to do that
17:31.19Lothaeryes it is evil but its funny as and kinda satisfying at the same time
17:31.23MoonWitch*sits down pulls up a chair taking notes*
17:31.27cryogenhow often does a level 20 run by? :)
17:31.43Lothaersome times you have to find them /evilgrin
17:32.19cryogenlevelling on a pvp server is the best thing ever
17:32.22cryogenproviding its a new pvp server
17:32.38cryogenpopulated servers is just a load of level 70 ganking in stv
17:32.43Lothaerhas any1 been anywere special in WoW?, places your not supposed to be able to get to?
17:32.45Lothaerlol
17:32.58MoonWitchunder neath SW
17:33.01MoonWitchbut that's it
17:33.06cryogenIF airport
17:33.10cryogenis the only place ive been
17:34.03Lothaerive been ontop of IF, Under SW, Shatterspear toll trice (aka dancing trolls) Under Org, behind the Greymane Wall, east of Tirisfal Glades and Mount Hyjal.
17:34.16LothaerWest, West of Tirisfal Glades LOL
17:34.33MoonWitchwow ya should note how you get there
17:34.50Lothaermost are easy Hyjal is a BIATCH tho
17:34.58MoonWitchthough since I play alliance, getting UNDER org might be a challenge
17:35.10Lothaeri play  alliance and i do it all the time
17:35.21MoonWitchcool
17:35.29MoonWitchbut I still get wasted fast :P
17:35.56Lothaerjust gotta watch out for the Troll Roof Stalkers in Org
17:35.57MoonWitchthough it would help if I spent some time actually levelling as opposed to constantly messing with addons
17:36.04Lothaerlol
17:36.44MoonWitchit's an addiction in itself
17:36.59Lothaerthe roof stalkers are LvL 70 Elite guards that are in stealth and if you get too close to the roofs in Org they Trap you and range DPS with bows for 2k on cloth NON-CRIT
17:37.21MoonWitchdamn
17:37.33Lothaer<PROTECTED>
17:37.47MoonWitchanyone have a pally here?
17:38.01MoonWitchother them me of course
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17:38.40charonthat's got to be the funniest recount detail view so far:
17:38.48charon[19:37:06] [Anmoch]: Recount - Anmoch's Effective Healing
17:38.48MoonWitchhey ckknight
17:38.50charon[19:37:06] [Anmoch]: 1. Lifebloom 10937 (218%)
17:38.51charon[19:37:06] [Anmoch]: 2. Improved Leader of the Pack 3469 (69%)
17:38.53charon[19:37:06] [Anmoch]: 3. Blühendes Leben -9387 (-187%)
17:39.02Lothaerback when i had 2 accounts (so i could play horde on the same server) i leveld a troll rogue to 60 (pre BC) and would stealth out the front of IF and watch my Alliance Guildies and RL friend duel then when one of the lost id stealth up and cheap shot there ass (if they were flagged) ROFL
17:39.12ckknighthey all
17:39.17Lothaerhey ckk
17:39.38LothaerAUSSIE AUSSIE AUSSIE
17:39.44MoonWitchwell if anmoch's lifebloom is 218 - 187 .. it's not so awesome.
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17:39.57charonBlühendes Leben means Lifebloom in english
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17:40.03MoonWitchI know
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17:40.04MoonWitchlol
17:40.17MoonWitchthat's why I said 218-187
17:40.22charonah.
17:40.33MoonWitchI am Flemish, so I understand some German
17:40.41LothaerFkemish???
17:40.47MoonWitchyep
17:40.49charonbesides i'm just the bear who helped with testing, they're not my lifeblooms
17:40.53MoonWitchthe dutch from Belgium
17:41.01Lothaerright
17:41.22Lothaerwell im Pure Bread Australian Mongrel
17:41.28MoonWitchcool
17:41.38Lothaermeasn i have no idea were im from lol
17:41.54MoonWitchI am just a belgian chick who happens to speak more english than is good for her >.<
17:42.09MoonWitchwell not knowing where you're from isn't a bad thing
17:42.31Lothaeri mean were my family originates or what bloodline im from lol
17:42.40MoonWitchoh
17:43.20Lothaerknow wha ti mean?
17:43.28MoonWitchyeah
17:44.34alcoholbelgium eh?
17:44.41MoonWitchuh huh
17:44.43alcoholspreek je ook vlaams dan? :p
17:44.49MoonWitchja natuurlijk :P
17:45.01alcoholgezellig accent altijd <3
17:45.08Lothaerderka derka
17:45.08MoonWitchhehehe
17:45.43alcoholwhat level does one get lifebloom ?
17:46.55Stan__hey ckknight
17:47.21Lothaerlvl 64
17:47.27alcoholah
17:48.15ckknighthey Stan__
17:48.48Hjalteckknight, have you been testing AltAura?
17:48.56cncfanaticsyo ckknight
17:49.00cncfanaticsfew bugreports if u dont mind :)
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17:49.08ckknightHjalte: sure have
17:49.14cncfanaticsckknight, got some time ?
17:49.18ckknightcncfanatics: you'll be happy to put em up on jira, then
17:49.25ckknightI gotta go soon
17:49.38Lothaerhttp://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h10/lothaer/beargod.jpg
17:49.46Hjalteckknight, did you have any problems with targetoftarget debuffs somehow interfering with target frame?
17:49.50cncfanaticsmeh, shld be very easy to fix, and its kinda major
17:49.53ckknight...no
17:50.02ckknightcncfanatics: then tell me instead of dicking around
17:50.04cncfanatics:SetDefaultProfile is nil even though its listed in ur API stuff
17:50.35cncfanaticsand, when loading the addon for the first time and having default settings set with SetDatabaseDefaults the .db.profile stuff stays empty till I call ResetDatabase
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17:51.54ckknightcncfanatics: hrm, that shouldn't be...
17:51.57CIA-2203ckknight * r48997 10LibRockDB-1.0/LibRockDB-1.0.lua: LibRockDB-1.0 - export "SetDefaultProfile" as a mixin method.
17:52.11ckknightcncfanatics: okay, for that one, please file a jira ticket
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17:52.20cncfanaticsI will
17:52.28cncfanaticsthanks for the fix of the first :)
17:55.58cncfanaticsckknight, ticket filled
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18:01.53Lothaerhttp://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h10/lothaer/dragongod.jpg
18:01.59Lothaerhttp://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h10/lothaer/eaglegod.jpg
18:02.59cncfanaticsart from ?
18:03.21Lothaerthats the God Bosses in Zul'Aman ive got 3 of 4 lol
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18:03.34Lothaerthe Lynx God hasnt been added to the MPQ files yet
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18:06.51cncfanaticsmeh, giev 70
18:07.01cncfanaticseither way Lothaer, what u gonna do ? :p come reroll with meh
18:07.01MoonWitchanyone know what the "rules" are for making custom borders?
18:07.25Lothaernah
18:07.34Lothaeri wanna get to 80 on my priest
18:07.38Lothaeri like him too much]
18:07.46cncfanaticsthen migrate to a living server at least ^^
18:08.13Lothaerif worst comes to worst ill just farm until WotLK comes out try and get 20K gold for it :)
18:08.14MoonWitchshadow priest?
18:08.18LothaerHoly
18:08.24MoonWitchooh
18:08.55Lothaerive got 2 sets of gear 1 for Farming and Questing and 1 for Healing Raids
18:08.57MoonWitchI have a little priest, but I am making her shadow, when she's higher level, respec to holy (since I am soloing with her)
18:09.03Lothaeri can still hurt as a holy priest with my spec :)
18:09.14MoonWitchnice
18:09.50Zarieli if i want to define color, like local r,g,b = "" and use rgb codes?
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18:11.29dylanmZariel: You have to scale them to 0-1, so if you're using the x/255 values just divide by 255.
18:11.52Zarielye is it like in the format red would be 255,0,0
18:12.05dylanmSo then you would use 1, 0, 0
18:15.04Stan__sylvanaar: http://ace.pastey.net/73888
18:15.22Stan__AceLocale(PratEditbox): Improper translation exists. "Set Width" is likely misspelled for locale deDE.
18:15.31sag_ich_nicht[19:32] <Lothaer> has any1 been anywere special in WoW?, places your not supposed to be able to get to? <--i've been pretty much everywhere.
18:15.48Lothaernice
18:16.06sag_ich_nichtalso that NE ganking method is fucking evil
18:16.09sag_ich_nicht*NE hunter
18:16.10sag_ich_nicht:O
18:16.21sag_ich_nichti have to do that :O
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18:33.54art3missag bots the dwarven airport ;P
18:34.39mikmagah, special places :P
18:36.14sylvanaarStan__ the tranlation is likely mispelled
18:38.08sylvanaarStan__ see if fin is still around - tell him
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18:40.50sbckknight: mh - lag seems to be gone :o
18:40.59sbno problems so far with pitbull, cowtip and parrot
18:41.32Nickenyfikensb: Rock version?
18:41.36sbyup
18:41.39MoonWitchI found that without embedded libs the rock versions of those run better than the not rock versions
18:42.08sbbut hard to find something in that config if you used fubar/dewdrop config before and know 'where' it should be :o
18:42.16MoonWitchbut with Parrot I would love to see the configuration mode, where you can drag the display areas, see it have a strata on top of the config panel
18:42.42sbe.g. buff filtering, its a simple submenu with dewdrop - but its on the detail page for auras when using rockconfig
18:42.44Lothaerhow do i fix this error "attempt to index global 'arg' (a nil value)"
18:42.49MoonWitchsb: yeah I noticed that too
18:43.00Xinhuan[9/16 02:39:44] <MoonWitch> I found that without embedded libs the rock versions of those run better than the not rock versions
18:43.04Xinhuancan you exlaborate?
18:43.09Xinhuanelaborate
18:43.19Xinhuanby what you mean by "run better"
18:43.27MoonWitchI found they use less memory in the rock versions without embedded libs
18:43.27art3mishe meant run gooder ;P
18:43.33MoonWitch<< she
18:43.42art3mis<<< demands proof
18:43.48LothaerROFL
18:43.53MoonWitchof my "she" ness?
18:43.54sbshould be made more obvious that there is some multi-select box
18:44.27art3misyes ;P
18:44.35Xinhuanwhether the libs are embedded or not should not affect memory usage
18:44.40Xinhuanso i don't really understand what you mean
18:45.05MoonWitchfor some odd reason with embedded libs, all three together used 4MB
18:45.05sb*screenshotting*
18:45.17art3misxin i think think she meant "rock based assoned without embedded function better that non-rock based versions without embedded" ?
18:45.32MoonWitchwith the libs NOT embedded (I am talking all addons without externals) it's down to 2MB
18:45.40MoonWitchI call that improvement :)
18:45.44MoonWitchand art3mis http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=570057083
18:45.47Xinhuanwell did you Add up all the rock libraries?
18:45.49MoonWitchthat should be prood
18:45.55MoonWitchproof*
18:46.11MoonWitchyep
18:46.19MoonWitchonly big spender is ace2 lib
18:46.26art3misheh we could fall to the argument of it opnly being proof that you can rightclick save other peopels pics ;P
18:46.27Xinhuanwhen you disembed them, you have to add the 3 addons + the seperate rock libraries memory usage, and there's some 10 of them
18:46.45CIA-2203diablohu * r48998 10AtlasLoot/ (Constants/constants.cn.lua TableRegister/loottables.cn.lua):
18:46.45CIA-22AtlasLoot:
18:46.45CIA-22- zhCN update
18:47.11MoonWitchif I chose someone elses pic as mine, I would have chosen someone better looking
18:47.23art3misi was wondering about the libs they other day, non embededd seem to load the libs "as an addon" while embedded seem to load only partially for what the addon requests
18:47.30MoonWitchpreferably someone not far.
18:47.31MoonWitchfat*
18:47.54MoonWitchwell with the libs disembedded, they become LOD, which I love
18:48.01MoonWitchcould be why there's a difference for me
18:48.05MoonWitchI don't know
18:48.12XinhuanMoonWitch: i think the reason is because some of the addons use ace2 libs
18:48.16Xinhuanor ace2 mixins
18:48.47MoonWitchas far as solely checking mem usage of the rock ones, I would have to kill all other addons, so no other addon adds to the load on eg ace2 locale
18:49.13Xinhuanparrot uses parserlib i think
18:49.30Xinhuannot sure how mixins affect memory usage
18:49.43MoonWitchall I can say is.. the addon list didn't change, but the mem usage went down by about 2MB when I switched to rock without externals
18:50.08Xinhuantotal memory usage?
18:50.10MoonWitchand the parserlib, I said eg ace2 locale.. I dont know all used libs per addon by heart. :)
18:50.14MoonWitchyep total mem usage
18:50.23Xinhuanthere might be a bug somewhere if that's the case
18:50.31MoonWitchI am now around 24MB
18:50.44Xinhuanembedded and disembeded shouldn't make a difference to mem usage - only loading time
18:51.15MoonWitchloading time went down as well but that's mostly due to me disembedding all libs (not just rock, but all of them)
18:51.52Xinhuanwhich rock addons are you using?
18:51.54MoonWitchI can only say what I found last night. The mem usage was quite high per rock addon, ckknight said to disembed libs to aide that. I did, and he was right
18:52.02MoonWitchParrot, Pitbull and CowTip
18:52.16MoonWitchand when I next load up WoW cartographer too
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18:52.49art3misrock addons have a high emeory consumptions cuz ckk put in extra buffer code to make it look like crap
18:53.08art3mishe's planning on haveing 2 releases, the crap one and the optimized one that he'll demand donations for ;P
18:53.22durcynstop talking out of your ass
18:53.25art3misthe optimized oen is just regular code but without the redundant behavior code
18:53.36MoonWitchdurcyn: is that to me or to art3mis
18:53.40art3misme
18:53.57MoonWitchah
18:53.57art3misdur has the sense of humour of a stick, and cant really grasp sarcasim or satire
18:54.00MoonWitchI concur then lol
18:54.08Xinhuanckknight: ping!
18:54.12art3misin fact in most cases he's just an ass with little value ;)
18:54.46durcynart3mis: they say we notice our own faults in others, congratulations on finding that one
18:54.48MoonWitchwell, I can only say what I noticed. That's all. I don't know jack shit about all that stuff. I am just a nublet playing with the big league while I should.
18:55.05MoonWitchshouldn't*
18:55.07art3misthats the highbrow equivilant of "i know you are but what am i"
18:55.20art3misMoonWitch: in theory there's really no difference betwen the two
18:55.41MoonWitchbut theory might be different in practice
18:55.46art3misthe only percieved difference is possibly that some of the libs havent loaded as you're not currently in need of thier functions
18:55.52MoonWitchtrue
18:55.56art3mislike take parrot for example
18:56.05art3misit wont load anything it needs until you're in battle
18:56.09MoonWitchI know
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18:56.25MoonWitchthat's why I checked both situation (actually all three) OOC first, then IC
18:56.26MoonWitch:)
18:56.31art3misckk better port parrot to ace3 too
18:56.41art3misand cart ;P
18:56.52art3mispitbull and cowtip i dont care about heh
18:57.15MoonWitchI've so tried to find something lighter than cart, but I can't miss the features. I am so used to it, that it's just plain odd without
18:57.28HjalteIs there any scrolling combat text addon out there that will let me see incoming damage to my pet?
18:57.44MoonWitchpitbull I always found quite heavy compared to ag_UF. But adds features. so yeah.
18:58.03MoonWitchparrot does I believe. sct might - but I never got it show a lot LOL
18:59.24MoonWitchbiab
18:59.36MoonWitchbbiab* gah, typo fairy's with me today
19:00.48cncfanaticslol
19:00.51cncfanaticslvl 10 in 6h of play
19:00.54cncfanaticsI shld be lvl 20 rly :p
19:00.56cncfanaticsdamn i'm slow today
19:03.23art3misbiaf -- bi in a fire ;P
19:03.33art3mistoday?
19:03.44sbhttp://img265.imageshack.us/img265/6594/wowscrnshot091507210112lz9.jpg <-- "buff filtering" is multi-select field - hard to recognize if you know it as dewdrop sub-menu :/
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19:11.10Dark_Knight_666what is discussed here?
19:11.12Dark_Knight_666:)
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19:11.43art3misdepends on the time of day
19:12.03art3misthis is a channel devoted to Ace Rimmer ;)
19:12.11art3miswhat a guy!
19:12.25galateaheya, sorry to bother everyone, I am a user of macaceupdater, and suddenly its list is blank, last time that happened, I had to change the URL of where it drew the list from, has it changed again?
19:13.45rob`art: He'll never be mistaken for Yule Brinner.
19:17.38Lothaerany1 know how to fix this Error:  bad argument #1 to 'insert' (table expected, got nil) - this is line 24 table.insert(arg, 1, 16);
19:17.40Zarielk
19:17.50Zarielsomeone please tell me why this doesnt color the chat text
19:17.50Zarielself:Print("|cff0000Now Entering|r "..GetSubZoneText().." ("..GetRealZoneText()..")")
19:18.56Lothaertable.insert(arg, 1, 17);*
19:18.59OminousLothaer: the table arg dosent exist
19:19.03galateaah, i see this just coders for wow ace chat, I'll just get my husband to sort the code some other time then, bb
19:19.15Lothaerok so how do i fix it???
19:19.56OminousLothaer: make arg a table?
19:20.13cncfanaticsgood profs for a rogue ? end game raiding
19:20.26Ominousim alc/herb
19:21.08Lothaermy Gnome rogues a engineer - i love popping out of stealth with a stick of TNT at the ready :)
19:21.23Ominousrofl
19:21.27cncfanaticsnow end game raiding stuff :)
19:21.39cncfanaticsengi seems rather, useless , for end game raiding compared to the damn good OH I could get from BS
19:21.49Ominouscncfanatics: what spec?
19:21.51Lothaermeh
19:21.55cncfanaticsI'm lvl 10 atm rofl
19:22.02Ominousah lol
19:22.09cncfanaticssword spec OH seems imba for end game tho
19:22.19LothaerI WANT A STAFF MAKING PROFESSION DAMN BLIZZARD... sorry /rage done ^^
19:22.27Ominouscombat sword =  best damage pve but boring as fuck
19:22.29Ominousimo
19:22.32NightHawkTheSanecncfanatics: imo, pick up 2 gathering profs now, then pick up a crafting prof post-60
19:22.34Bibi!whstats
19:22.41BibiNO WORKZ
19:22.48BibiL2C !
19:22.56Bibioops, wrong channel actually
19:22.59Bibihaha, I suck.
19:23.00Dottedyou fucking suck Bibi
19:23.01Lothaerrofl
19:23.06OminousBibi: rofl
19:23.19Lothaer<PROTECTED>
19:23.22Bibi:(
19:23.32Ominous~golfclap Bibi
19:23.33purlACTION gives Bibi a soft applause
19:27.02Zariellol
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19:35.49yacoob:)
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19:37.17yacoobHas anyone seen anything like 'wow-like tooltip generator'? As in, I need something to spew out image with wow style tooltip, containing custom icon and text. Any idea "how to" instead of carefully gimping single letters from tooltips out there?
19:37.41art3mislets try that again in engrish
19:37.43art3mis')
19:37.58yacoobart3mis, I can make it Simple English.
19:38.01art3misthere's loits of tooltip addons
19:38.13yacoobart3mis, outside of the game :)
19:38.23art3misoh
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19:38.42yacoobI need to get an image with "fake" wow tooltip.
19:38.45art3misnot a clue ;P
19:39.10yacoobbtw, have you seen http://wanted.eu.org/en/media/ad/vision_express_omg ? :D
19:39.37BankZWhere can I find info about what some of the stuff displayed by Dr. Damage means?
19:39.56art3misheh thats kind of amusing
19:41.09ag`Mmm
19:41.17ag`is there really no better software out there for dkp
19:41.34ag`eqdkp sucks
19:42.02Matrix110eqdkp+ is ok
19:42.05Xinhuaneqdkp doesn't suck if you know how to edit the code in the package to your own needs
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19:42.17Matrix110not the dream software but better than normal eqdkp atleast
19:42.21art3mistheres lots of better software ag
19:42.36art3misbut nothing beast P&PDKP
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19:42.44art3misbeats
19:42.58art3misPencil & Paper Dragon Kill Points
19:43.19Xinhuanfor example if your guild uses 0 sum, you could easily edit some of the code in it so that adding a raid with items will auto-zero-sum it
19:43.27Xinhuanwithout having to manually do it
19:43.27Stan__isn't it "pen & paper"?
19:43.40art3mispen??? are you crazy?!?!?!
19:43.46Stan__YES!
19:44.30AmadeoMan, my Warrior sucks
19:44.34AmadeoI need better gear :P
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19:45.51sbwhats a pen?
19:46.05sband btw <3 EPGP :p
19:46.12Xinhuan~wiki pen
19:46.14Amadeosb: They used them in the olden days before computers
19:46.32sbhaha you said 'before computers' :/
19:47.46Stan__~wiki pen & paper
19:47.51AmadeoKids these days are born into cell phones and stuff, they expect them at age 12 :P
19:47.54Stan__bah
19:48.00Stan__~wiki pen+&+paper
19:48.11Stan__purl: u suck!
19:48.12purl:(
19:48.20sb~~~~~~
19:48.21purlACTION takes out a revolver and shoots sb in the head three times.
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19:53.10IndustrialHO SHI-the new files.wowace.com owns with the categories
19:53.19ag`EPGP isn't that hot as it doesn't have a web interface :P
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19:54.46art3miscyCircled Iron Cross 1.1 Miscellaneous 09-09-2007 09:43 PM  Downloads:223
19:54.47art3misHello Kitty Island Adventure v0.82-beta Compilations & Suites 09-08-2007 04:27 AM Downloads: 304
19:54.47art3miscyCircled Hello Kitty Edition 1.5 Miscellaneous 09-07-2007 03:14 AM Downloads: 308
19:55.12Hjalteart3mis, damn, people have bad taste ;)
19:55.13buuDoes the updater do new installs as well?
19:55.51art3misHjalte: heh yeah
19:56.01art3misthats pretty awesome though
19:56.15art3misamadeo found someone on the forums claiming they made hkui ;)
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19:56.34AmadeoProbably a joke, but I thought it was funny
19:58.26Xinhuani can't believe i actually now manage to read hkui without having to think what it stands for like i used to
19:58.49art3mishahaha
19:59.00art3misamadeo 31st post in there is funny
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19:59.48Amadeohaha
19:59.58Amadeoyeah, it looks like he might be trying to take credit for it :P
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20:01.24AmadeoCan you sap people in neutral towns without guards killing you?
20:01.46*** join/#wowace art3mis (n=art3mis@ool-18b9f13e.dyn.optonline.net)
20:01.50TNSeatm yes
20:01.52Xinhuanyes
20:01.59Amadeocool :)
20:02.02Industrial~seen sirow
20:02.06purlsirow <n=Miranda_@p57A4DBD1.dip.t-dialin.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 5d 9m 5s ago, saying: 'bam__: was pretty good ;)'.
20:02.25Industrialavion externals not all set/embeds.xml not all right
20:02.42AmadeoI wasn't sure if they'd just unstealth you automatically
20:03.14Xinhuanwell its pretty annoying to be chain sapped atm! lol
20:06.41Zariel~2+2
20:06.42purl2+2 is, like, 5
20:06.59Zariel~1+1
20:07.00purli guess 1+1 is 3 for large values of 1, or 0
20:07.15Zariel~5-2
20:07.16purl3
20:07.28Zariel~5-3
20:07.29purl2
20:07.49Xinhuan~2348-24
20:07.49purl2324
20:08.03Zariel>lua 2+2
20:08.09Xinhuan~2348-24*2
20:08.09purl2300
20:08.26Mudkipsis it time for sum MATHS?
20:08.28Xinhuan~2348*2342*3564*13451*2345+5
20:08.29purl618187328066357248
20:08.32Xinhuanwtf
20:08.48Mudkips~1/0
20:08.49purlwell, 1/0 is undefined
20:08.55Stan__~2345*sqrt(64)
20:08.56MudkipsI DIVIDED BY ZERO
20:09.03Mudkipszoooooooooooooooooomg
20:09.08Xinhuan~2348*2342*3564*13451*2345*345345*223536457*23523
20:09.09purla number with quite a few digits...
20:09.11Zarielwtf
20:09.13Mudkipshere goes the world *swoooooooooommmppppphhh*
20:09.18Zarielmy friends PTR doesnt update
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20:12.38art3mishahaha
20:12.42Zarielever
20:12.50Zarielhes still at the version that you download at first :|
20:14.43Stan__~2345*sqrt(64)
20:15.04Stan__laaame
20:18.07buuI need an addon that replaces gnomes with something that doesn't look completely stupid
20:18.20Zariel:)
20:18.21Zarielwow ahx
20:18.22Zarielhax*
20:18.31buu=[
20:18.37buuGnomes make me cry.
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20:27.53AmadeoAnyone here in the Warhammer beta?
20:31.33art3misnote yet ;(
20:31.34Zarieli love how blizz are teleporting dalaran to northrend
20:31.59art3misthe big purple dome did the teleport ;P
20:35.36Zarielye
20:35.39Zarielonly taken 2 yras
20:37.08ZealotOnAStickwell, the magi sealed themselves off from the rest of the world.
20:37.55ZealotOnAStickwho knows what they've been working on in that time? (more like 6 1/2-7 now)
20:38.07ZealotOnAStickApprently, how to make an entire city fly, and move it to another continent.
20:40.02Zarielteach me
20:42.07ZealotOnAStickckknight: ping
20:42.32ZealotOnAStickckknight: You have any eta when you're going to consider Pitbull and other addons you've converted to Rock "release" status?
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20:48.19charonhmm
20:48.30charonno, never mind.
20:48.54aestilchest cold on the weekend for a loss.
20:48.59aestilhow about those irish :)
20:48.59art3misyeah
20:49.13art3misive got me a stuffed up nose and sore throat
20:49.15aestilOWNED IN THE FACE CHARLIE WEIS
20:49.19art3misand its my birffday durnit
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20:50.14Stan__art3mis: happy bday
20:50.26art3misthanks
20:50.41Industrialwhat dock to daskshore from menethil? left/right ?
20:50.43Stan__\m/\m/\m/
20:50.56Industrialnm
20:57.06charonsag_ich_nicht: antiarc has placed some debugging messages already
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20:57.20charontry creating ChatFrame5, then do /run AceLibrary("Threat-1.0").DebugEnabled = true
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21:13.45sbag`: yup, web stuff is the only downside (together with missing 'history' (logging) functions :/)
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21:17.27sbwhy? :(
21:17.31Fisker-because i can
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21:18.16sbgiev sga :/
21:18.22Fisker-omg about time
21:20.47nymbiaow
21:21.20theoddone33so just checking... there's no problem with me having omen/bigwigs if the rest of my raid has ktm/dbm?
21:22.00Funkeh`that shouldn't be a problem
21:22.08Funkeh`just ake sure you have broadcast to ktm tocket in omen
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21:22.14Funkeh`ticked*
21:22.19theoddone33ah
21:24.08Fisker-yeah nymbia
21:24.10Fisker-you better fear me
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21:27.19theoddone33now I need an ace mod that interacts with GroupCalendar
21:28.10Fisker-you better hold on to your head nymbia
21:29.58nymbia:(
21:30.48Fisker-night
21:30.54Fisker-oh and btw
21:31.00sbckknight: something is broken in pitbull :o
21:31.01nymbia<3
21:31.12Fisker-the thing about the head shouldn't be considered a threat if you plan on making a gm ticket fubar plugin anytime soon
21:31.14Fisker-*cough*
21:32.05nymbialol
21:38.14sbckknight: http://img523.imageshack.us/img523/7571/wowscrnshot091507233012os1.jpg see pitbull :/
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21:39.29Stan__sb: what's wrong?
21:39.35sbuhm? :)
21:39.44sblook at healhbar
21:39.51sbplayer bar vs. target
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21:40.11Stan__it has the same value
21:40.18sbyup, _value_
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21:40.23Kuja^Stan__: look more closly :P
21:40.33orionshockjello
21:40.34Stan__dunno what you mean
21:40.50Punkie`look at the length of the bar
21:40.54Kuja^have a look at the bar itself
21:41.33Stan__well you want to tell me that if has a different size and you did not change it?
21:41.51Punkie`btw sb, your rogue must appreciate the 5 second rule timer on fubar :D
21:41.58HjalteHeh, what are the odds.. I am fighting a rare mob when another rare mobs start attacking me. Non-elites both of them, so no problems.
21:42.00AntiarcSo
21:42.13AntiarcMy Dell 24" widescreen monitor died last night :(
21:42.19sbPunkie`: yes! :p
21:42.24cryogenserves you right for buying dell
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21:42.29cryogenerr
21:42.37AntiarcThe first is more accurate! :D
21:42.38Kuja^lol :D
21:42.43cryogenyeah, kinda owned myself there
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21:52.59orionshockalright - beta versions of some of my major addons and sill under 50mb of mem
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21:58.59Chompersi've got one of those Antiarc, how'd yours die?
21:59.14AntiarcIt just stopped working
21:59.32Chompersuh oh
22:02.02HjalteAntiarc, that'll teach you not to pour cola into monitors!
22:02.51RogueShadowI have a pretty small monitor, but the picture is good.  It's heavy tho.
22:02.58RogueShadowSony G220
22:03.39Chompersdells don't run on cola?
22:03.43Chompersoh shit guys
22:04.35[KzM]Fatalisis there an addon that does one thing - move the mouse-over tooltip on the bottom right of the screen, i know of cowtip and thats not what i want
22:05.03orionshockum.. gymnast
22:05.32RogueShadowI found my computers' retractable cup holder, but for the life of me I dont' know what this "CD-ROM" is?
22:05.39RogueShadowcome on guys. help me out
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22:06.02RaydenUnicyclistwow, i got mentioned on priestlyendeavours
22:06.04RaydenUnicyclisti'm awesome
22:06.06HjalteYou see the opening? Pour coffee in, if you want your computer to make coffee.
22:06.10orionshockmy computer actually has a cup holder and lighter built into it
22:06.31orionshockas well as a separate dvd burner
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22:12.11orionshockhow do you get the minimap zone?
22:13.10ZarielGetMinimapZoneText
22:13.10Zariel?
22:13.30aestildoes anyone know how to change the strata of the minimap?
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22:16.36charonaestil: simpleminimap can do that
22:18.53ckknighthey all, back
22:19.11ckknightZealotOnAStick: tomorrow, probably
22:19.41orionshockck .. all my mods are broken ... fix my ui
22:19.44orionshock:P
22:20.08ckknighthow are they broken?
22:20.38yssarilhis cupholder broke and the coke got in is pc :P
22:21.01orionshockpit bull was thowing some weird error about the config system not liking some value.. but i updated and it all went away
22:22.00ckknightart3mis: why would I port them to Ace3?
22:22.04Matrix110i wonder if the annoying after releasing party windows is bugged thingy is fixed with Rock:P
22:22.25ckknightnot that I know of
22:22.38Matrix110:-(
22:22.39ckknightXinhuan: pong
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22:28.39orionshockwell ckknight  ive got all of your branch addons running... ontop of my usual assortment of other mods
22:28.45ckknightokay
22:28.55orionshockand i can say that it's acting alot nicer than usual, not so laggy on the framerate
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22:29.38ckknight:-)
22:29.50ckknightone of the intended goals :-)
22:30.16Stan__yo ckknight
22:30.21Stan__welcome back
22:30.26Zarielhey there
22:32.58Zarielare there any changes on the rock branch of pitbull or is a straight port?
22:33.21aestil_charon: can simpleminimap be completely square like squeenix?
22:34.02aestil_ckknight: did you push rock arcoss to trunk then?
22:34.11aestil_or are these still people who are in branch?
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22:35.35ckknightRock itself has been in trunk for a while
22:35.41ckknightthe addons haven't been
22:36.54buuaestil_: Yes, simpleminimap is square tacular.
22:41.30Zarieli like ominimap tbh
22:47.04aestil_ckknight: i know, thats what i'm asking.
22:47.15aestil_charon: ty.  ima try that right now.
22:47.27charonaestil_: yes
22:51.51aestillol, i forgot my nickserv pw
22:51.55aestiloh wait.
22:51.57aestilnvm
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22:59.15MoonWitchI am semi back, but I think I'll go PLAY WoW for a change, as opposed to tinker in it :P
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22:59.49Finwoo woo
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22:59.56MoonWitchFin!! hey
23:00.11Finit's sucktastic!
23:00.16Finhello Moon
23:00.20MoonWitchlol
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23:01.42Finnope... this sucks the hard one, it's quite good but well, no
23:08.03sbckknight: did you see my screenshot?
23:08.19aestilcharon: i put the simpleminimap srata at 7, but its had no effect.
23:08.39aestilan eePanel2 panel on level 3 is overrigihting the map.
23:09.46charonaestil: that's weird. i can make the minimap overlap ArkInventory if i put it on level 4 or above
23:10.00aestili'm restarting the game.
23:11.16MoonWitchanyone know how to use custom pitbull borders (that are not square-ish) .. or even how to make borders in the correct format
23:11.18ckknightsb: nope
23:11.19aestildidn't help
23:11.23sbckknight: http://img523.imageshack.us/img523/7571/wowscrnshot091507233012os1.jpg see pitbull :/
23:11.43ckknightwhat am I looking for?
23:11.50sbhealh bar :)
23:11.52sbhealth
23:11.58ckknightoh, weird
23:12.05ckknightwonder how that happened
23:12.24aestilcharon: complete fail.
23:12.28aestil:(
23:12.40MoonWitchckknight: might I ask which barmod you use?
23:13.15ckknightBartender3
23:13.22MoonWitchah, me too lol
23:13.29Nickenyfikenckknight: have you ever tried to set Parrot in config mode (scroll areas) and then do a reset profile?
23:13.43ckknightdon't do that :-P
23:13.46ckknightbut no, never tried
23:14.00Nickenyfikenhehe ^^
23:14.37MoonWitchha, looking at your interface I got a good idea for mine :P thanks
23:15.00NickenyfikenDidn't get any errors but the game was really really slow and the scrolling was screwed up until i made a reload ui
23:15.05buuHrm. Anyone know of a mod that would give me draggable gray areas for all of the quest-type frames? I mean like, the 'tracking quest objective' and the 'number of flags to cap' and 'durability' type frames.
23:15.12Diaovizor
23:15.19Diaobut you need to know the frame names
23:15.27Hjaltebuu, simpleminimap does that
23:15.36buuHjalte: !
23:15.49buuHjalte: Thank you god I can finally turn it off!
23:15.50buu=]
23:16.21HjalteI really don't think God has anything to do with simpleminimap...
23:17.02buuPerhaps not.
23:17.55MoonWitchwho knows.
23:18.39charonaestil: afraid i can't help you there :(
23:18.51charoni don't really know anything about the UI stuff yet
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23:20.07buuAnd while I'm blathering on here, may I suggest a new category for 'meter' type tools? Such as recount, assessment, damagemeters, etc.
23:20.25buuAnd is there anyway to get to the old files.wowace interface?
23:21.38Hjaltebuu, the show all button should pretty much do that.
23:22.43buuHjalte: It's paged =[
23:22.59buuAnd that makes it extremely slow, in comparison.
23:23.06Hjaltebuu, not the one i get....
23:23.23buuOh!
23:23.34buuSorry, you're completely correct. I was confusing it with something else.
23:23.41buuMuch better =]
23:24.52BankZAnyone here good with arkinventory?
23:29.35yssarilbuu the categorys are basically up to the individual devs the files.wowace just parses them them creates the category's accordingly now maybe being able to set multible category's would be interesting
23:29.42Stan__ckknight: will there be a new version of Deformat Lib?
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23:30.01ckknightyes, eventually
23:30.07ckknightworking on LibRockConfig-1.0 right now
23:30.39Stan__k, rock on :p
23:31.11ckknight:-P
23:31.35buuHrm. Loggerhead has disapeared. I have it enabled in the addons list but I don't get a minimap button
23:31.46buuAnd I can't see it in deucecommander or find a /command
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23:44.04sbckknight
23:44.11ckknightyes?
23:44.12sb[20:40:59] <sb> no problems so far with pitbull, cowtip and parrot
23:44.13sb[20:42:07] <sb> but hard to find something in that config if you used fubar/dewdrop config before and know 'where' it should be :o
23:44.16sb[20:42:41] <sb> e.g. buff filtering, its a simple submenu with dewdrop - but its on the detail page for auras when using rockconfig
23:44.28ckknightdetail page?
23:44.31sb21:03:44] <sb> http://img265.imageshack.us/img265/6594/wowscrnshot091507210112lz9.jpg <-- "buff filtering" is multi-select field - hard to recognize if you know it as dewdrop sub-menu :/
23:44.32sb:)
23:44.44ckknightokay
23:44.47ckknightum
23:44.51ckknightget used to it :-P
23:44.56ckknightsorry
23:45.00sbmhhh k ;o
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23:45.55gerber^CavestyAnybody have a problem with grid like
23:46.06gerber^Cavestynot showing anything except the health texture at random times
23:46.46sbckknight: so no more dewdrop config in rock?
23:47.03ckknightbasically, no
23:47.05CIA-2203yssaril * r48999 10YssGuildShop/ (YGS_Comm.lua YssGuildShop.toc):
23:47.05CIA-22YssGuildShop:
23:47.06CIA-22-
23:47.06Stan__the only thing that is driving me crazy in rockconfig, is the color chooser...it's like "WOOOT those are many sliders.."
23:47.19ckknightI mean, dewdrop is still great in some situations
23:47.25ckknightbut not for huge config situations
23:47.28ckknightStan__: lol
23:47.34yssariloops forgot to add changes to the change log aw well
23:47.36sbckknight: for 1 single setting, dewdrop is much faster
23:47.37ag`looks a lot like waterfall
23:47.54sbwaterfall/rockconfig is great in situations where you have to change multiple settings
23:48.34ckknightdewdrop is bad for big configurations, and instead of having to support configuration through two or more implementations, I figured it be best to just standardize on one
23:48.38Stan__ckknight: you once said you would add "copy" and "paste" buttons, is this still part of the plan?
23:48.41ckknightand make that one the best it can be
23:48.44ckknightStan__: yes
23:48.59Stan__ckknight: awesome
23:49.00sbcopy as in 'copy all settings from this 'page''?
23:49.05ckknightno
23:49.06ckknightugh
23:49.11Stan__sb: just for the colors
23:49.14ckknightleave me alone, I'm gonna work on stuff
23:49.17sbah
23:49.18sbhehe
23:49.19Stan__lol :p
23:49.29Stan__everyone shut the fuck up
23:49.35yssarilckknight whould it maybe look a little better if every other line had a slightly brighter or darker underlay to define each line a bit better?
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23:49.45ckknightyssaril: I said leave me alone
23:49.47Stan__yssaril: shhh :p
23:50.20yssarillol that was before i started typing and after i stopped reading :)
23:50.37yssarilanyways back to the game bb;
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