| 00:00.05 | Trae | come on guys serously please |
| 00:00.07 | ckknight | the new version works fine. |
| 00:00.14 | NeoTron | aestil: dunno what level of progression to look at for you |
| 00:00.27 | ckknight | the likely issue is you're now downloading properly, Trae |
| 00:00.28 | hyperChipmunk | maybe, but it's a pain in the neck to use now |
| 00:00.41 | ckknight | I don't see how |
| 00:00.47 | NeoTron | frankly the old "menu' configuration was a lot better for most config |
| 00:00.50 | NeoTron | much faster to use |
| 00:00.50 | Trae | ckknight, I was able to untar.....e rrr unzip it |
| 00:00.59 | ckknight | ... |
| 00:01.10 | Trae | ckknight, and put it in the right dir. The base FuBar works (There is a bar there and nothing else) |
| 00:01.10 | NeoTron | for more thourough config, the ui is better |
| 00:01.32 | aestil | we will start killing solarian this week. |
| 00:01.32 | NeoTron | but it is still usable |
| 00:01.37 | aestil | neotron |
| 00:01.44 | NeoTron | did you kill al'ar then I presume? |
| 00:02.00 | aestil | a course. |
| 00:02.03 | aestil | and vashj |
| 00:02.09 | hyperChipmunk | if you whiff on a button in the old one, you get a little menu that you can click off of; in the new one, you get two seconds freeze, then an OMGHEUGINURFACE box of all options ever, ever |
| 00:02.20 | NeoTron | http://www.wowhead.com/?item=30109 then too |
| 00:02.25 | hyperChipmunk | whose close button can't be clicked >8P |
| 00:02.28 | aestil | what the heck is taking 2 seconds to load for you? |
| 00:02.34 | NeoTron | basically crit instead of int |
| 00:02.38 | aestil | wtf, the close button can be clicked? |
| 00:03.08 | aestil | neotron, i believe i'd pass that to a mage or a lock before i took it. |
| 00:03.13 | NeoTron | but I think the al'ar one is actually better for a SP |
| 00:03.14 | Trae | http://occy.net/tmp/Fubar-is-right.png |
| 00:03.31 | NeoTron | yeah vashj is clearly better for classes that crit more |
| 00:04.18 | ckknight | Trae: install some plugins |
| 00:04.43 | Trae | ckknight, I like tried to. Where do they go? I tried inside the addons dir. No love. I tried in the FuBar dir. No love. |
| 00:04.59 | Trae | is there a readme somewhere that explains this? I don't mind RTFM, but can't find anyting |
| 00:05.03 | ckknight | inside the addons dir, fully restart WoW |
| 00:05.15 | kebinusan | needs to be a yaw limit or something tho for barrel rolls |
| 00:05.21 | NeoTron | http://www.wowhead.com/?item=29352 is pretty good too |
| 00:05.21 | Trae | ckknight, ok mate I'll try again |
| 00:05.24 | NeoTron | for a heroic item |
| 00:05.25 | Trae | ckknight, thought I'd done that. |
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| 00:06.22 | Trae | ckknight, oh *blush* |
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| 00:06.28 | Trae | ckknight, it's listed as out of date |
| 00:06.47 | ckknight | turn on load out of date addons |
| 00:08.17 | Birdemani | Started my raid tonight, all those without any addons are saying the have huge mana bars in the middle of their screen. I've had them remove the WDB folders and anything that said Blizzard UI but its still there, any ideas? |
| 00:08.37 | phyltr | blizzard's new ui |
| 00:08.40 | phyltr | don't question it |
| 00:09.02 | markm | hah |
| 00:09.04 | ckknight | huge mana bars? |
| 00:09.10 | Birdemani | half the screen |
| 00:09.19 | phyltr | what about a non-mana user? |
| 00:09.37 | Birdemani | shrug |
| 00:09.38 | Gnarfoz | screenshot or it didn't happen |
| 00:12.46 | mikma | i really don't understand Assessment sometines |
| 00:12.50 | mikma | times* |
| 00:12.59 | Birdemani | nm, found the issue, the blizzardui_raid was the culprit |
| 00:13.09 | mikma | ie, now is the perfect moment. it says i'm last on threat, yet others say i'm second/first |
| 00:13.22 | Trae | how do I get stuff to center on the panel? |
| 00:13.26 | Trae | or left aligned? |
| 00:13.36 | hyperChipmunk | rightclick->position |
| 00:13.37 | Trae | and this is cool btw |
| 00:13.48 | hyperChipmunk | the plugin, that is |
| 00:14.41 | Trae | heh |
| 00:14.51 | Trae | Ok... thanks from saving me from Titan ;) |
| 00:14.52 | Trae | lol |
| 00:14.55 | hyperChipmunk | ha |
| 00:15.02 | Trae | See, I at least try new stuff before I dog it out ;) |
| 00:15.15 | Trae | sorta |
| 00:15.16 | Trae | lol |
| 00:15.18 | hyperChipmunk | you can drag and drop them if the bar is unlocked to move them around within their position |
| 00:17.28 | Vires | When I download a mod and it doesn't work, I burn it, cry, dig it up, open it, move things around, cry, reload WoW, laugh, delete it, download new copy and repeat.... without the crying, anyway =p |
| 00:18.45 | Mikk | mikma: i'm getting that outta violation too |
| 00:19.00 | Mikk | people running full omen tell me completely different things |
| 00:19.24 | Mikk | i wonder if it's some global threat vs current target threat mumbojumbo |
| 00:19.29 | aestil | neotron i vote for the al'ar ring. i want the necklace from kael. do you thing mag head reward > Al'ar ring? |
| 00:19.58 | mikma | Mikk: well the threat is fucked up in assessment anyway, i made a whinepost for roartindon in forums today about it |
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| 00:21.45 | sb | aestil: yes, mag head > alar :p |
| 00:23.06 | mikma | i guess i need to dump assessment and get a good damagemeter then |
| 00:25.05 | Trae | ckknight, omg you wrote Cartographer? wow.... |
| 00:25.09 | Trae | heh |
| 00:25.15 | Trae | my favorite addon |
| 00:25.15 | ckknight | ~ckknight |
| 00:25.15 | purl | methinks ckknight is a strong developer in the Ace community, and a main developer of the Ace2 framework itself as well as the Rock framework, ckknight is best known for such addons as FuBar, Cartographer, PitBull, CowTip, Parrot, and so many more. See ~emulate ckknight for the full story. |
| 00:25.22 | ckknight | that's the basic list |
| 00:25.36 | Trae | ckknight, damn mate, I owe quick leveling on tons of chars to you ;) |
| 00:25.37 | sb | who is ckknight? |
| 00:25.38 | kaiden^ | :P |
| 00:25.45 | mikma | ckking |
| 00:25.53 | kaiden^ | it's so not gay if it's electronic.. right?! :P |
| 00:25.56 | Keias | damn |
| 00:26.00 | Trae | lol |
| 00:26.04 | Keias | Anyone have a screenshot of Gladiator? |
| 00:26.14 | Keias | Cause the site is overloaded atm |
| 00:26.16 | mikma | kaiden^: it's not gay if the balls don't touch |
| 00:26.16 | Trae | ckknight, easiest way to upgrade Cart without losing old info? |
| 00:26.27 | kaiden^ | mikma, fantastic! |
| 00:26.32 | ckknight | Trae: should upgrade fine. |
| 00:26.41 | Trae | ckknight, just overwrite all files? |
| 00:26.45 | ckknight | yep. |
| 00:26.47 | Trae | kk |
| 00:27.07 | Trae | I went from one machine to the other one time and lost all my outlands stuff :( |
| 00:27.17 | Trae | had damned near every quest mapped up to BEM |
| 00:27.45 | sb | oh hm |
| 00:27.47 | sb | alar bugged? :P |
| 00:27.49 | Stanzilla | ckknight: you should update the "As an end-user, how can I become involved?" part in the rock wiki. it still says the only addon that uses it is cowtip |
| 00:27.55 | sb | something with 10s meteor cd |
| 00:28.04 | ckknight | Stanzilla: I should update that |
| 00:28.10 | Olison | any math-guy got a reverse formula of the new rating->Arena points formula? :-> |
| 00:28.12 | Stanzilla | ckknight: you shoud :) |
| 00:28.13 | Trae | ckknight, one thing, PLEASE do this... move "edit" away from Delelte mate. :) |
| 00:28.31 | aestil | what is causing all my fonts to have an outline? |
| 00:28.39 | aestil | a hateful troll type outline |
| 00:28.40 | Strangeteeth | anyone's alar metoring constantly? |
| 00:28.42 | Trae | I don't know how many points I've deleted when I meant to edit them. lol |
| 00:28.46 | ckknight | Trae: make a jira ticket |
| 00:28.52 | Trae | ckknight, url? |
| 00:29.01 | ckknight | jira.wowace.com |
| 00:29.05 | Trae | ckknight, k |
| 00:29.07 | Stanzilla | Trae: http://jira.wowace.com/secure/CreateIssue!default.jspa |
| 00:29.07 | sedai| | i wanty to make it easier to add fonts to prat, anyone have suggestions where to start? |
| 00:29.12 | Keias | aestil, double check prat settings, if you use it |
| 00:29.20 | aestil | keias, i did |
| 00:29.37 | Mikk | it's prat |
| 00:29.41 | Mikk | fucked up setting |
| 00:29.45 | Mikk | tell it to turn font shadowing on |
| 00:29.49 | Mikk | and the outline goes away |
| 00:30.09 | sedai| | hmm |
| 00:31.42 | sedai| | i have so many nice fonts that are solid in their construction, i want to add them to my wow gui or at least get he ball rolling on changing how a font can be added in the current set up |
| 00:31.44 | aestil | mikk, the font outline is on grid, ebb and fubar fonts as well. |
| 00:31.58 | aestil | sedai, check out clearfonts wiki. |
| 00:32.04 | aestil | i'm pretty sure you can create your own font pack. |
| 00:32.21 | kaiden^ | mmm the food of poor people around the world! |
| 00:32.41 | kaiden^ | spam, mac-n-cheese with pea's in it and ketchup |
| 00:32.42 | kaiden^ | heh |
| 00:33.33 | sedai| | hmm |
| 00:33.50 | Trae | ckknight, done, and thanks mate. Ok time to get xp ! |
| 00:34.19 | aestil | for anyone curious enough to help me, please note screenshot |
| 00:34.21 | aestil | http://img206.imageshack.us/img206/9929/wowscrnshot092507173308tr8.jpg |
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| 00:38.40 | Mudkipz | aestil is that caithlyns package? |
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| 00:38.48 | aestil | no, i made it. |
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| 00:39.19 | Mudkipz | you used a 3 panel setup for eepanels? |
| 00:39.26 | aestil | yes. |
| 00:39.38 | Mudkipz | how'd you get them to stack to precise? |
| 00:39.42 | sedai| | is /bob updated? |
| 00:39.49 | Toadkiller | Ok, anyone know why previously working buttons would break in this patch? Far as Ican tell the major change was to keybindings... |
| 00:39.54 | Mudkipz | because even doing it in hard numbers doesn't make each one identical |
| 00:39.56 | Mudkipz | its weird |
| 00:40.13 | sedai| | for some reason i sometimes find that my forward arrow only changes the bob buttons instead of making my character go farward |
| 00:40.18 | aestil | i made all the chat frames the identical size. |
| 00:40.37 | aestil | then i parented each panel to each other. |
| 00:40.53 | Mudkipz | what's that anchor called? |
| 00:41.08 | Killmore2 | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:42.37 | Silowyi | looks like they nerfed arena point gain again |
| 00:42.53 | Silowyi | but raised it for 3v3 and 2v2 |
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| 00:43.16 | Silowyi | according to the official calculator on the armory page, my 5v5 is going to lose 15 points for a rating 1700 |
| 00:43.22 | Thezilch | Anyone with SVN access and up for an easy fix for ag_UnitFrames (Tooltip error on unitframe mouseover): |
| 00:43.22 | Thezilch | Line (1749,2): UnitFrame_OnEnter() to UnitFrame_OnEnter(frame) |
| 00:43.23 | Thezilch | Line (1754,2): UnitFrame_OnLeave() to UnitFrame_OnLeave(frame) |
| 00:43.34 | Silowyi | but my 3v3 gains about 25 for 1700 |
| 00:43.37 | Thezilch | In UnitClass.lua |
| 00:43.42 | Pyro_Vespin | anyone know any fixes for autobar yet? |
| 00:44.13 | ckknight | alright, I'll cya all later |
| 00:44.24 | Silowyi | 2v2 teams earn 76% of the points of a 5v5 team with the same rating |
| 00:44.24 | Silowyi | 3v3 teams earn 88% of the points of a 5v5 team with the same rating |
| 00:45.06 | Silowyi | 1511.26 / (1 + 1639.28 × 2.71828 -0.00412 × Rating ) is the new base formula for 1500+ |
| 00:45.16 | Mudkipz | aestil, can you elaborate? |
| 00:45.39 | Gnarfoz | ~emulate ckknight |
| 00:45.40 | purl | You know why? Because you touch yourself at night |
| 00:45.50 | Silowyi | err |
| 00:46.05 | Silowyi | 1511.26 / [1 + 1639.28 × 2.71828 ^(-0.00412 × Rating )] is the new base formula for 1500+ rather |
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| 00:47.08 | Xinhuan | Silowyi: how accurate is 76% and 88%? |
| 00:47.29 | aestil | mudipz i'm not sure i understand your anchor |
| 00:47.43 | Mudkipz | hmm ok |
| 00:47.57 | Mudkipz | is there a guide somewhere about parenting frames? |
| 00:48.14 | aestil | for the furthest most left chat pane the frame is called something like ChatFrame1 |
| 00:48.30 | aestil | every frame in the game has a name |
| 00:48.38 | Mudkipz | yeah I named all mine too |
| 00:48.41 | aestil | you copy the script in while you mouse over the frame and it prints it out |
| 00:48.47 | aestil | no mudkipz |
| 00:49.13 | Mudkipz | oh you actually hooked it only the in game chatframe... okay |
| 00:49.19 | Mudkipz | on* |
| 00:49.39 | aestil | the general chat frame is called ChatFrame1 according to the game. |
| 00:49.45 | Xinhuan | Silowyi: how accurate is 76% and 88%? |
| 00:49.48 | aestil | so i made that my first parent. |
| 00:50.09 | aestil | then i created another panel, and parented it to eePanels1 which was the games name for that first panel i created. |
| 00:50.19 | aestil | then I hooked another frame to eePanels2 |
| 00:50.29 | aestil | you have to write scripts. |
| 00:50.32 | Mudkipz | are you using eepanels or eepanels2? |
| 00:50.35 | aestil | 2 |
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| 00:50.38 | Mudkipz | ok |
| 00:50.39 | aestil | for the lua scripts. |
| 00:50.43 | aestil | so that you can resize stuff. |
| 00:51.04 | aestil | i had to use prat to force all the chat panes to be EXACTLY a certain size. |
| 00:51.19 | aestil | just dragging doesn't really resize them accurately, and then you don't get good results. |
| 00:51.39 | aestil | those font outlines are driving me crazy though. |
| 00:51.41 | aestil | CRAZY |
| 00:51.47 | Mudkipz | lmao |
| 00:51.53 | Mudkipz | go into prat>fonts> shadow |
| 00:51.56 | Mudkipz | turn it off!!! |
| 00:52.01 | aestil | i disabled the freaking module |
| 00:52.12 | Mudkipz | is it on your unitframes too? |
| 00:52.12 | aestil | i have outlines on my fubar fonts. look at the top left corner. |
| 00:52.19 | Mudkipz | wow |
| 00:52.22 | aestil | i have certain text on my UF outlined. |
| 00:52.25 | Mudkipz | that's nuts |
| 00:52.28 | aestil | and top right cornere |
| 00:52.37 | aestil | something is making all my game fonts have outlines. |
| 00:52.41 | aestil | ima disable clearfont2 and see if that does it. |
| 00:52.59 | Mudkipz | ok about those scripts |
| 00:53.07 | Mudkipz | how do I get a head start on those? |
| 00:53.14 | aestil | read the eePanels2 thread. |
| 00:53.17 | aestil | good examples there. |
| 00:53.51 | Mudkipz | got a link? |
| 00:54.12 | aestil | no, its on the wowace forum |
| 00:54.20 | aestil | thread is called like eePanels2 bla blah |
| 00:55.03 | aestil | WTF I HATE FONT OUTLINES ON EVERTYING>>>>>!!!! NOOOOO |
| 00:55.26 | Mudkipz | ok thx |
| 00:56.04 | Wobwork | Inciter's partywide MC. if he pops your cloak of shadows, does that break the MC? |
| 00:56.16 | Mudkipz | no |
| 00:57.35 | aestil | ~seen elkano |
| 00:57.38 | purl | elkano <n=elkano@ip-213-135-2-170.handshake.de> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 3h 34m 19s ago, saying: 'phyltr, they should also hide on zone change'. |
| 01:01.10 | sb | haha wtf |
| 01:01.24 | aestil | sb, i have font outlines on everything, can you make it stop? |
| 01:01.26 | sb | confirmed that you are stuck with 1024x786 on 2.2? |
| 01:01.38 | frop | 2.2 on the way |
| 01:01.39 | aestil | sb: what? |
| 01:01.44 | sb | see http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=1778584978&sid=1 |
| 01:01.47 | sb | sounds funny :o |
| 01:01.53 | sb | all other resolutions seem to be broken |
| 01:02.11 | sb | "I used to play with the resolution 1152x864 but after the patch it's stuck to 1024x768" etc.. |
| 01:03.00 | Mudkipz | what's with people sounding funny on vent? |
| 01:03.10 | Silowyi | anyone having mail problems? |
| 01:03.14 | Mudkipz | only a select few... |
| 01:03.28 | Mudkipz | Silowyi, nothing wrong with postal |
| 01:03.32 | sb | Mudkipz: blah... :o |
| 01:03.54 | Silowyi | I just sent something to my alt about an hour ago and it hasn't shown up... same account |
| 01:04.54 | aestil | THE FONTS ARE KILLING ME I AM GOING TO HAVE TO QUIT THE GAME |
| 01:05.03 | sb | aestil: get clearfont? :p |
| 01:05.16 | hyperChipmunk | or replace the fonts dir with your own |
| 01:05.44 | sb | oh http://www.wowinsider.com/2007/09/25/undocumented-2-2-patch-notes/ <3 |
| 01:06.11 | sb | oh - another new prayer of mending animation? nice! |
| 01:07.18 | Toadkiller | Silowyi mail to alts is instant. if it does not show up you sent to wrong person |
| 01:07.40 | aestil | sb, i have clearfont 2. |
| 01:08.06 | mikma | sb: i seem to get server not found with that |
| 01:08.14 | erb | can anyone recommend a replacement for autobar? |
| 01:08.32 | sb | mh - why do you need to replace it? |
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| 01:09.00 | erb | if you're asking me i need to replace it because its broken |
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| 01:09.05 | erb | unless there's been a fix within the last hour |
| 01:09.36 | RogueShadow | broken!!!! AH!!! |
| 01:10.10 | Corgan | http://www.streedo.com/staff.jpg niiiice |
| 01:10.19 | sb | mikma: http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=1778015283&pageNo=1&sid=1#0 |
| 01:10.20 | sb | better? |
| 01:10.33 | sb | - Tracking abilities such as "Find Minerals" now last through death |
| 01:10.34 | sb | ohh |
| 01:10.35 | sb | this is sooo <3 |
| 01:10.42 | RogueShadow | yay |
| 01:10.47 | mikma | sb: muuuuuuch better! |
| 01:10.49 | RogueShadow | I always forget to turn it back on |
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| 01:11.45 | mikma | new music added xD |
| 01:12.56 | aestil | i can't believe i'm the only person who suddenly was given shadows on all my game fonts. |
| 01:13.03 | aestil | want to /wrists. |
| 01:13.14 | xyu | uh |
| 01:13.17 | xyu | is google down for anyone else? |
| 01:13.33 | sb | google is the internet |
| 01:13.44 | xyu | no kidding. which is weird |
| 01:13.47 | sb | cant be 'down' |
| 01:13.48 | Wobwork | xyu: chances are... yes |
| 01:13.51 | Wobwork | it is only you |
| 01:14.03 | Wobwork | works fine for me |
| 01:14.05 | Aens|Superiority | hrm |
| 01:14.08 | Tsikura | oh nice |
| 01:14.11 | Tsikura | server crashed |
| 01:14.15 | Aens|Superiority | can someone in game try to move their cooldown monitor window? |
| 01:14.16 | Tsikura | hooray patch day! |
| 01:14.43 | Kemayo | Aww, warriors apparently get buffed when a paladin greater-blessings warriors. :D |
| 01:15.01 | Kemayo | s/warriors./pets/ |
| 01:15.20 | rob` | that's handy. |
| 01:15.45 | erb | i dont really notice a difference with my shoulders (nightelf) |
| 01:15.50 | erb | they seem maybe that they arc lower i guess |
| 01:15.51 | Wobwork | I wonder if they class flying snakes as a caster class |
| 01:15.56 | erb | nothing big though |
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| 01:16.30 | aestil | there is no other solution. i must go kill myself now. |
| 01:16.40 | aestil | good night, and good luck. |
| 01:16.52 | mikma | HAHA! Griftah got banished from the city |
| 01:16.58 | Kreiger | erb, any update on autobar? |
| 01:17.32 | sb | mikma: mhh why? :/ |
| 01:18.04 | frop | damn...every once my ui is ok...a new patch comes out :P |
| 01:18.19 | mikma | sb: no idea, but serves him right ;) that bastard! |
| 01:18.51 | sb | i have an treasure tracking necklacke |
| 01:18.52 | sb | !! |
| 01:19.29 | silentium | Kemayo: so hunter pets count as warriors now? sexeh |
| 01:20.16 | silentium | hm, but what about warlock pets? imp with BoM is kinda silly... |
| 01:20.51 | eibit | is ClearFont2 not working correctly for anyone else ? |
| 01:21.05 | Tsikura | works fine for me |
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| 01:21.58 | eibit | it loads fine for me, but the font doesn't actually get swapped. at least not for my chat windows. |
| 01:22.15 | Diao | what's the new arena formula? |
| 01:23.34 | Xinhuan | Diao: http://www.wowarmory.com/arena-calculator.xml |
| 01:23.53 | Diao | oh didn't know blizzard put up their own |
| 01:24.18 | Xinhuan | blizzard will be releasing their own Firefox plugin for armory in a few days lol |
| 01:24.22 | Xinhuan | some blue posted it |
| 01:24.50 | eibit | looks like 76% for 2v2 and 88% for 3v3 |
| 01:24.59 | Diao | lol |
| 01:25.39 | Keias | I made one after they changed the armory URL |
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| 01:25.58 | Diao | wait |
| 01:26.04 | Diao | i thought |
| 01:26.12 | Diao | the daze nerf was removed |
| 01:26.15 | Diao | why is it in the patch notes |
| 01:26.32 | irandamay | I have shadows under all my fonts too |
| 01:26.48 | Megalon | ebit: yea, penalties are 24% and 12% |
| 01:27.21 | eibit | excellent, much better than the 2.1 ratios imo |
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| 01:28.37 | aestil | ok, things are a bit better now. |
| 01:28.43 | aestil | http://img169.imageshack.us/img169/7266/wowscrnshot092507182744ss5.jpg |
| 01:28.52 | aestil | having made fubar eePanel, i will not have to kill myself. |
| 01:29.46 | Sinaloit | eePanels are for what exactly, just aesthetics? |
| 01:31.00 | kandarz | Kaelten, do people need special permission to add projects to Jira? |
| 01:31.52 | Kaelten | send an email to the SVN request address if you need one |
| 01:32.20 | kandarz | bayi wants to add beql, I'll let him know |
| 01:32.25 | stavmar | i am still getting an error with Xloot even after the update |
| 01:32.44 | stavmar | is anyone else experiencing it? |
| 01:33.08 | Sinaloit | stavmar: I am, the problem is that they changed the hook, but didn't update the call to the original function |
| 01:33.33 | stavmar | Sinaloit: so is there anotehr fix we can edit, i cannot loot anything? |
| 01:33.35 | stavmar | lol |
| 01:34.17 | Sinaloit | but since the svn comment said quick fix dunno if its the best fix so my fix to the fix might end up being thrown out heh |
| 01:34.59 | Sinaloit | if you edit line 337 and chance it from: self.hooks.LootButton_OnModifiedClick(button) to self.hooks.LootButton_OnClick(button) you'll be ok |
| 01:35.08 | Sinaloit | but again not sure thats the best solution in the end :) |
| 01:35.24 | Sinaloit | you can always shift loot in the meantime too! |
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| 01:35.39 | stavmar | ok will give it a shot thank you |
| 01:36.13 | Sinaloit | aestil: what are eePanels for exactly? |
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| 01:37.43 | magma | sweet, 2.2.0 must be causing lots of havoc |
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| 01:38.22 | Tinyboom | Xinhuan: the firefox armory search plugin is already implemented, for US, still waiting for EU:) |
| 01:38.36 | Xinhuan | ah |
| 01:39.33 | Keias | You can make one easily :/ |
| 01:39.39 | Keias | It takes like 3 mins |
| 01:41.01 | Ellipsis | ergh... |
| 01:41.09 | Ellipsis | well that was a nice nap..ish..thing |
| 01:41.35 | Xinhuan | behold, as patch 2.2 wreaks havoc |
| 01:41.47 | Ellipsis | what else is new |
| 01:41.52 | Kaydeethree | par for the course |
| 01:41.54 | Xinhuan | on UIs, addons, addon authors, addon sites and wow channels ;p |
| 01:42.35 | Ellipsis | I feel kinda bad...I was planning to run interference today on WowAce forums |
| 01:42.39 | Ellipsis | how bad has it been? |
| 01:42.46 | Xinhuan | not too bad |
| 01:42.57 | Xinhuan | a few tooltip related issues due to tooltip handling change |
| 01:43.08 | Xinhuan | and a few bar addons broke due to ActionPage handling change |
| 01:43.39 | Xinhuan | and of course, the usual Rock-Ace2 change stuff |
| 01:43.50 | Fisker- | Anyone got a link for the english 2.2 patch? |
| 01:44.00 | Kaydeethree | Fisker-, http://a.wirebrain.de/wow/ |
| 01:44.04 | Ellipsis | eesh, was there another wave of "omgwtfRock" as everyone did their patch updating? |
| 01:44.14 | Xinhuan | pretty sure yes |
| 01:44.17 | Kaydeethree | Ellipsis, yes: http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=1778026024&sid=1 |
| 01:44.23 | Kaydeethree | among others |
| 01:44.25 | Xinhuan | most people dont' update addons until a patch day |
| 01:44.27 | Ellipsis | yay >_> |
| 01:44.27 | Fisker- | Kaydeethree english not american :I |
| 01:44.30 | Xinhuan | so... lol |
| 01:44.50 | Wobwork | hehe |
| 01:44.57 | Wobwork | only Americans make that mistake =) |
| 01:44.57 | Ellipsis | "It's part of Ratings Buster" lulz |
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| 01:45.52 | Wobwork | One of my friends has an american boyfriend... AB: "I've been trying to teach you English for ages!" friend:"No... you've been trying to teach me American... totally different language!" |
| 01:45.53 | aestil | sinaloit, eepanels are for making interface stuff. |
| 01:46.02 | aestil | http://img244.imageshack.us/img244/3034/wowscrnshot092507184501yx8.jpg |
| 01:46.41 | Fisker- | OMG |
| 01:46.44 | Fisker- | THEY FIXED IT |
| 01:46.46 | Kaelten | ? |
| 01:46.47 | Fisker- | THEY FIIIIIIIIXEEEEEEEEED IT |
| 01:46.55 | Fisker- | or perhaps not |
| 01:47.02 | Kaelten | ? |
| 01:47.15 | Gngsk | fixed what? |
| 01:47.17 | Fisker- | cpu usage was pretty damn high in the last patch when in the login screen |
| 01:47.29 | Fisker- | now it's around 10% |
| 01:47.36 | hyperChipmunk | wow that's a serious concern |
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| 01:47.52 | hyperChipmunk | well worth all that shouting |
| 01:48.03 | Fisker- | yes |
| 01:48.04 | Kemayo | Aw, how cute, Dreamhost just managed to 'chown -R root /home' the entire shared server I'm on. |
| 01:48.18 | Fisker- | it also exists in-game btw though |
| 01:48.23 | hyperChipmunk | chpwned? |
| 01:48.29 | Kemayo | Verily. |
| 01:48.34 | nogudnik | Kemayo: that is world class stupid right there |
| 01:48.49 | Kaydeethree | it's dreamhost, that's par for the course for them |
| 01:49.01 | Fisker- | yeah it's still bad |
| 01:49.30 | Ellipsis | aestil, is that screenie your current UI? o.O |
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| 01:49.41 | hyperChipmunk | easy enough to fix though |
| 01:49.45 | aestil | yes |
| 01:50.09 | Ellipsis | but party chat is broken! I can tell by some of the pixels x.x |
| 01:50.20 | aestil | yes. |
| 01:50.23 | aestil | i don't know why |
| 01:50.43 | aestil | do you have any guesses? [i just posted this in the UI screenshots forum with the same question] |
| 01:51.02 | Ellipsis | does it go back to that even when you fix it? |
| 01:51.17 | aestil | fix what? |
| 01:51.28 | Ellipsis | er...being the wrong size |
| 01:51.44 | aestil | the panel shouldn't be the wrong size. let me log back in to the game real quick. |
| 01:51.57 | aestil | using prat to force all chat frames to a specific size. |
| 01:52.14 | Ellipsis | the panel looks liek it lines up, but the chat frame seems to be a few pixels too tall |
| 01:52.26 | Ellipsis | s/liek/like/ |
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| 01:58.28 | Fisker- | http://developersdevelopersdevelopers.dk/WoW2.2/ <-uk patch for 2.2 if anyone's interested |
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| 01:59.32 | aestil | ellipsis, yes, it is too tall, but its supposed to be the right size. |
| 02:00.46 | Kaydeethree | woop, auth is down |
| 02:01.42 | Ellipsis | aestil, you are supposed to not fail :P |
| 02:01.52 | aestil | yes. i'm working on that. |
| 02:02.10 | Ellipsis | my original question was: if you resize it to match the others, does it go back to overlapping? :P |
| 02:03.58 | Tinyboom | Fisker-: how the heck you have it already? |
| 02:04.04 | Megalon | Fisker-: weeeeeee, thx :o |
| 02:04.07 | hyperChipmunk | http://www.wowarmory.com/character-talents.xml?r=Feathermoon&n=Faroth <-----can anyone come up with a possible reason for justifying lethal shots 2 over readiness? |
| 02:04.18 | hyperChipmunk | because i'm friggin' totally boggled here |
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| 02:04.30 | Silowyi | fix to bartender yet? |
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| 02:04.43 | colabean | is updater even working? |
| 02:04.48 | Wobwork | hyperChipmunk: ... |
| 02:05.06 | Wobwork | maybe he hasn't respecced since 70? |
| 02:05.22 | hyperChipmunk | he's in my g/f's kara raid |
| 02:05.26 | hyperChipmunk | i subbed for him last weekend |
| 02:05.38 | Wobwork | crazy |
| 02:06.05 | Wobwork | crazy |
| 02:06.15 | hyperChipmunk | there are a LOT of things wrong with his spec and gear, but that's not really my concern |
| 02:06.35 | hyperChipmunk | but the one thing i can't see is how you can justify losing double-misdirections in a raid for ONE PERCENT CRIT |
| 02:07.02 | Ellipsis | but crits are good! |
| 02:07.04 | Megalon | perhaps he has boobies in reallife |
| 02:07.06 | Ellipsis | they make you hit harder! |
| 02:07.09 | Megalon | boobies justify any specc |
| 02:07.19 | Ellipsis | Megalon, not manboobies x.x |
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| 02:08.14 | kandarz | cool, server just crashed |
| 02:09.10 | mikma | ~tbr |
| 02:09.10 | purl | tbr is, like, ThraeBot Ratings -- a ThraeBot innovation. Working on a PvP-oriented weighted algorithm for what stats the Armoury currently has for your character, partially modified by build-type, it can be used to pit two characters in TBR vs TBR combat, and tries try to take into account which classes are fighting. (or "to be released") |
| 02:09.35 | Ellipsis | I want my item tooltips back =[ |
| 02:09.52 | sedai| | yeah |
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| 02:10.13 | KarlThePagan | autobar! </3 |
| 02:10.14 | sedai| | is that TinyTip thats borked? |
| 02:10.21 | KarlThePagan | <3 :) |
| 02:10.22 | Ellipsis | I don't use TinyTip |
| 02:10.31 | KarlThePagan | tinytip works for me |
| 02:10.32 | Speeddymon_ | does anyone know, if ChatThrottleLib was updated today, why the TOC wasn't updated to the current version? |
| 02:10.40 | kandarz | I still find TinyTip better then CowTip |
| 02:10.55 | Kemayo | Huh. One of my chars has 172% rested exp. |
| 02:11.10 | sedai| | doesnt it go up to 200%? |
| 02:11.15 | Kreiger | Ellipsis, you didn't sleep very long. |
| 02:11.15 | Kemayo | 150%. |
| 02:11.22 | Kemayo | Unless they changed it in the patch. |
| 02:11.49 | Kreiger | Does tinytip properly show debuffs on mouseover now? |
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| 02:12.20 | KarlThePagan | 150%... some mods calc it differently than others |
| 02:12.32 | kadrahil | gosh |
| 02:12.41 | kadrahil | our server has crashed like 3 time tonight |
| 02:12.42 | kadrahil | :( |
| 02:12.44 | kadrahil | times |
| 02:12.52 | colabean | anyone know the new formula for arena points? |
| 02:12.54 | KarlThePagan | u got voice chat enabled? |
| 02:12.54 | Ellipsis | Kreiger - yeah I woke up too early >_< |
| 02:13.16 | sedai| | i couldnt see a voice menu in the options |
| 02:13.30 | Ellipsis | omgz there is a kitty meowing outside the door |
| 02:13.33 | Ellipsis | =[ |
| 02:13.33 | sedai| | someone said that it would be implimented tomorrow |
| 02:13.46 | sedai| | open and kick and close and drink a beer |
| 02:14.10 | Kreiger | So who's in charge of autobar and how do we make him fix it? |
| 02:15.05 | sedai| | dont use autobar |
| 02:15.09 | sedai| | :P |
| 02:15.11 | sedai| | jkj |
| 02:15.19 | sedai| | i dunno look it up on wowace |
| 02:15.20 | rubik | the forced-with-no-way-to-turn-off shadow effect on prat is real annoying |
| 02:15.23 | Kreiger | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:15.28 | sedai| | i use Bongos |
| 02:15.34 | Kreiger | I use bartender |
| 02:15.35 | sedai| | i was kidding :( |
| 02:15.39 | Kreiger | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:15.41 | KarlThePagan | i use bartender and autobar |
| 02:15.44 | Kreiger | OR WAS I? |
| 02:15.49 | KarlThePagan | because i have a ton of crap in my bags |
| 02:16.13 | sedai| | i havent tried autobar |
| 02:17.21 | Ellipsis | rubik - last I checked there was an option for that |
| 02:17.29 | Gngsk | anyone able to remove ora2 pts? |
| 02:18.00 | Xinhuan | can someone test that if you are on your flying mount on the ground, you can swap to your land mount instantly? |
| 02:18.02 | Gngsk | nvm, the dewdrop option worked but the tablet didn't |
| 02:18.54 | Xinhuan | colabean: http://www.wowarmory.com/arena-calculator.xml |
| 02:19.15 | Ellipsis | o.o my server is so laggy |
| 02:19.24 | colabean | whats this rock configuration.... |
| 02:19.32 | rubik | Ellipsis: there is.. it just doesn't do anything |
| 02:19.33 | Ellipsis | Xinhuan: I can test as soon as I get off this taxi flight |
| 02:19.38 | Xinhuan | cool |
| 02:19.42 | Ellipsis | rubik, that's unfortunate o.o |
| 02:19.46 | Xinhuan | wondering if its some new feature |
| 02:19.52 | rubik | any fix for the "raid frames are in the middle of my screen with no addons turned on and i can't move them/hide them"? |
| 02:20.01 | Ellipsis | might work differently for me 'cause my mounts are spells not items x.x |
| 02:20.11 | Ellipsis | rubik: right click and close them? |
| 02:20.14 | Gngsk | rubik, try removing Blizzard_RaidUI.lua from SVs |
| 02:20.19 | Gngsk | Ellipsis, they're bugged |
| 02:20.21 | rubik | can't right click or move |
| 02:20.25 | Ellipsis | odd |
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| 02:20.30 | Xinhuan | well i'm not sure Ellipsis, if it is a new feature, or only because i have a legendary mount |
| 02:20.31 | Ellipsis | nuke the SVs then |
| 02:20.32 | Xinhuan | >.> |
| 02:20.36 | Ellipsis | Xinhuan hax |
| 02:20.41 | Diao | hmm |
| 02:20.47 | Xinhuan | so someone tell me |
| 02:20.50 | Diao | is there a way to remove the shadow in prat now |
| 02:20.55 | Gngsk | rubik, lemme know if nuking the SV works, few people in my raid are having the same issue |
| 02:20.58 | Diao | i can't find an option to turn it off :( |
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| 02:21.38 | rubik | Gngsk: trying it now |
| 02:22.02 | Speeddymon_ | hey guys, dunno if anyone has noticed, but both PerformanceFu and ReportAFKFu were both updated today, and both are missing the Dependencies: FuBar line from the TOC.. anyone want to fix? |
| 02:22.19 | Kemayo | Speeddymon_: They don't need it. |
| 02:22.20 | Ellipsis | er, it's not a dependancy |
| 02:22.23 | Ellipsis | it's an OptDep |
| 02:22.54 | Speeddymon_ | So they can display on the screen without fubar? then why are they both "Fu"'s ? |
| 02:23.09 | KarlThePagan | Speeddymon_, all fubar addons can function without fubar installed |
| 02:23.13 | KarlThePagan | they show up as a minimap icon |
| 02:23.21 | Ellipsis | Xinhuan: still have cast time on my dreadsteed |
| 02:23.35 | Xinhuan | what about normal mounts? |
| 02:23.57 | Diao | let me test xinhuan |
| 02:24.00 | Speeddymon_ | yes, i realized that, but personally, i expect that if I disable fubar, all of my (not part of another addon) plugins will show dependency disabled, and therefore will not load |
| 02:24.03 | Diao | i'm hearthing to shat atm |
| 02:24.17 | Ellipsis | Xinhuan, dun have any o.o |
| 02:24.22 | Diao | nope |
| 02:24.23 | rubik | Gngsk: that fixed it for all in my raid who were having problems.. thanks! |
| 02:24.23 | Diao | doesn't work |
| 02:24.27 | Diao | think it's just your mount |
| 02:24.39 | Diao | it dismounts me and starts casting the other mount |
| 02:24.41 | rubik | (deleting SV/Blizzard_RaidUI.lua) |
| 02:24.56 | Xinhuan | weird |
| 02:24.56 | Ellipsis | Speeddymon_, a lot of people use FuBar plugins without FuBar |
| 02:25.07 | Xinhuan | i noticed it doesn't work on my other mounts either |
| 02:25.13 | Xinhuan | only works on my legendary one |
| 02:25.24 | Ellipsis | the only ones I know of that literally require it are things like tcgTradeskills, FuXPFu, and the MicroMenu one |
| 02:25.24 | Diao | wasn't that bug mount also able to mount in midair |
| 02:25.26 | Diao | or something |
| 02:25.29 | Ellipsis | Xinhuan, you hax |
| 02:25.29 | sedai| | clearfont isnt very clear on how to create one's own fontpack |
| 02:25.33 | Diao | iirc |
| 02:25.33 | Xinhuan | i don't know Diao |
| 02:25.37 | sedai| | can i just add folders with fonts in them? |
| 02:25.38 | Xinhuan | i haven't been able to reproduce it |
| 02:25.43 | Xinhuan | or find details |
| 02:25.47 | Speeddymon_ | yeh i just noticed that when i check my load out of date addons box, about half of the addons still load even when fubar is disabled.... |
| 02:25.56 | Xinhuan | but yes, you can mount the legendary mount in midair previously |
| 02:25.57 | Ellipsis | sedai|, copy the CF2 Font Pack from the svn |
| 02:26.01 | Diao | oh |
| 02:26.12 | Ellipsis | change the font files and code to match your fonts |
| 02:26.13 | Xinhuan | but if you didn't have slowfall casted, you're sure to die anyway |
| 02:26.27 | sedai| | and code is the part where im not sure what to change |
| 02:26.30 | Xinhuan | cos landing SPLAT while on a land mount isn't very helpfui |
| 02:26.45 | Ellipsis | interesting |
| 02:27.14 | sedai| | how to i view a .toc? |
| 02:27.18 | sedai| | :x |
| 02:27.20 | Ellipsis | in notepad? |
| 02:27.26 | Ellipsis | or your favorite text editor |
| 02:27.27 | Diao | lol |
| 02:27.31 | sedai| | oh i tried and it looks all well funky |
| 02:27.34 | sedai| | heh |
| 02:27.39 | Ellipsis | unix line breaks ftw |
| 02:27.53 | Ellipsis | you can use WordPad if you don't have anything else |
| 02:27.58 | Ellipsis | it will show the lines correctly |
| 02:28.22 | Ellipsis | what the hell is wrong with my UI |
| 02:28.25 | Ellipsis | 40MiB?! |
| 02:28.27 | sedai| | i can download soemthing if its free |
| 02:28.31 | sedai| | any suggestions? |
| 02:28.44 | sedai| | there are so many choices |
| 02:28.47 | Ellipsis | Notepad++ is a favorite for lua-ers around here |
| 02:29.05 | Ellipsis | as well as ports of *nix editors like vim |
| 02:31.24 | sedai| | woot thanks |
| 02:31.25 | sedai| | ! |
| 02:31.29 | Kemayo | Woo XLoot-0.9.49784\XLoot.lua:337: attempt to call field 'LootButton_OnModifiedClick' (a nil value) |
| 02:31.35 | Ellipsis | something is drastically increasing Ace2's memory usage since patch for me...anyone else getting that? >_> |
| 02:31.45 | kaiden^ | What can go up a chimney down but not down a chimney up |
| 02:31.51 | Wobwork | an umbrella |
| 02:32.12 | Ellipsis | your mom? |
| 02:32.43 | sedai| | oh it looks like id just have to change the LUA |
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| 02:32.48 | Wobwork | Your mom often use the chimney that way, Ellipsis? |
| 02:32.49 | sedai| | does that sound right? |
| 02:32.58 | Diao | does notepad++ have full utf support |
| 02:32.59 | sedai| | the TOC doesnt seem to be font specific |
| 02:33.09 | Ellipsis | Diao: works for me, YMMV |
| 02:33.16 | sedai| | tmmv? |
| 02:33.18 | Ellipsis | Wobwork: nah, she couldn't fit |
| 02:33.21 | Diao | oh |
| 02:33.21 | Diao | k |
| 02:33.31 | Ellipsis | YMMV = your mileage may vary |
| 02:33.35 | sedai| | ooh |
| 02:33.38 | NightHawkTheSane | Diao: yes |
| 02:33.43 | sedai| | aa sou desu |
| 02:34.04 | sedai| | i use the font thing |
| 02:34.07 | NightHawkTheSane | well, actually, i'm not 100% sure, so i shouldn't say "yes". :\ |
| 02:34.09 | Ellipsis | ee, soo desu =3 |
| 02:34.13 | kaiden^ | scite > notepad++ |
| 02:34.15 | sedai| | The Font Thing |
| 02:34.26 | sedai| | :o |
| 02:34.41 | NightHawkTheSane | bbedit/tw/textmate > anything windows has. :) |
| 02:34.44 | sedai| | its a good program to view the 900 some fonts i have :D |
| 02:36.11 | Diao | cartographer colors are failing |
| 02:36.12 | Diao | :( |
| 02:36.16 | sedai| | hmm at the end of the LUA it mentions regestering fonts with the "SharedMediaLib" whats that? |
| 02:36.16 | Diao | it's showing everyone white |
| 02:36.24 | sedai| | im white |
| 02:36.27 | sedai| | o_0 |
| 02:36.41 | sedai| | oh cartographer |
| 02:36.44 | sedai| | nm |
| 02:37.31 | Ellipsis | sedai|: SharedMedia is where fonts are picked up for addons that do their own font control |
| 02:37.38 | Ellipsis | e.g. agUF/PitBull |
| 02:37.59 | sedai| | ah, so how would i go about um.. regestering? |
| 02:38.04 | Ellipsis | Diao: yeah, had that too =[ |
| 02:38.14 | sedai| | just replace the font names in this LUA? |
| 02:38.19 | Ellipsis | yup |
| 02:38.26 | sedai| | ah ok, easy enough |
| 02:38.48 | Ellipsis | well it's not designed to be difficult =] |
| 02:40.13 | Ellipsis | my poor computer |
| 02:40.24 | sedai| | some code seems to be, i can never be to sure until i check it out |
| 02:40.26 | Ellipsis | it's so sad after that memory problem with my UI =[ |
| 02:40.34 | Ellipsis | hehe true sedai| |
| 02:40.49 | sedai| | sad computers are slow? |
| 02:40.59 | sedai| | like lagged? |
| 02:41.06 | Ellipsis | sorta |
| 02:41.07 | stavmar | sedai|: was it your fix on the xloot issue? |
| 02:41.12 | sedai| | maybe confused is the right word |
| 02:41.21 | Ellipsis | I can't use Firefox at the moment because it's busy paging... |
| 02:41.29 | sedai| | it was not |
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| 02:41.47 | sedai| | stavmar: no i haven't taken a look at that issue yet |
| 02:42.01 | sedai| | xloot group is still out of date |
| 02:42.09 | sedai| | erm not updated |
| 02:42.25 | stavmar | no the error with just looting in general |
| 02:42.43 | sedai| | oh, im not a developer |
| 02:42.47 | stavmar | i was just going to say teh manual fix that was seen in teh forums worked just fine no errors at the moment |
| 02:42.51 | sedai| | just a GUI designer ^_^ |
| 02:43.12 | sedai| | ah glad it seems to be working |
| 02:43.22 | stavmar | sedai|: aah, well gui is the only way a dumb user like me can understand what these developers create |
| 02:43.34 | stavmar | sorry to botehr you |
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| 02:43.37 | stavmar | bother( |
| 02:43.45 | xyu | i hate you freenode-connect, stop messaging me! :D |
| 02:43.46 | sedai| | no worries, just messing with fonts |
| 02:44.13 | stavmar | do you have a UI screenie with any cool fonts, my favorite at the moment is myriad condensed |
| 02:44.23 | stavmar | all bold |
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| 02:45.12 | Ellipsis | I'm still on the eternal search for the perfect font |
| 02:45.45 | Ellipsis | well...two, really |
| 02:45.47 | sedai| | i like sans sarif fonts, more of mordern feel |
| 02:45.54 | stavmar | ok |
| 02:45.55 | xyu | Ugh, i keep getting a The connection to the server was reset while the page was loading while trying to access google. it's only google >< i can't live w/o it!!~! asdf |
| 02:46.01 | sedai| | calibri is pretty close to my fave so far |
| 02:46.02 | stavmar | maybe i should try |
| 02:46.24 | Ellipsis | a serif with fixed-width digits for my chat frames (currently considering Book Antiqua) and a sans serif that's interesting without being unreadable for the big stuff >_> |
| 02:46.24 | stavmar | the standard CF, i liked it for a while |
| 02:46.52 | sedai| | have you tried CF2? |
| 02:46.57 | Ellipsis | I use CF2 |
| 02:47.02 | Ellipsis | add my own fonts though |
| 02:47.07 | Seerah | this is my current favorite font: http://www.myfonts.com/fonts/larabie/tork/ |
| 02:47.15 | Ellipsis | I'm very picky |
| 02:47.35 | Ellipsis | cute, Seerah |
| 02:47.50 | Ellipsis | the capital letters are kinda wide though x.x |
| 02:47.53 | sedai| | yeahyeah not bad, too squiggly for me though |
| 02:48.23 | sedai| | as a website designer i like verdana lol |
| 02:49.01 | sedai| | im going to try a bunch of pixel fonts |
| 02:49.11 | Ellipsis | I tend to fall back on Georgia or TNR for websites =/ |
| 02:49.27 | sedai| | like hooge |
| 02:49.38 | sedai| | yeah georgia is good too |
| 02:49.46 | Ellipsis | I tried pixel fonts for my UI, didn't turn out so well |
| 02:49.54 | Ellipsis | doesn't help that the WoW UI scale thing messes them up |
| 02:49.59 | sedai| | they gotta be really small |
| 02:50.05 | Ellipsis | yeah, I know |
| 02:50.06 | sedai| | 6-8px |
| 02:50.10 | kaiden^ | Seerah, nice font, that's sexy |
| 02:50.13 | Ellipsis | <---not a n00b =[ |
| 02:50.27 | sedai| | i know was just sayin |
| 02:50.31 | Seerah | you're not, Ellipsis? I am ;) |
| 02:50.37 | Ellipsis | well maybe sometimes |
| 02:50.41 | Ellipsis | but not about fonts |
| 02:50.43 | Ellipsis | :P |
| 02:51.10 | sedai| | hehe, which did you try, recall any off hand? |
| 02:51.40 | Ellipsis | for my UI? |
| 02:51.44 | sedai| | aye |
| 02:52.18 | Ellipsis | been through so many I can't remember hardly half of them |
| 02:52.19 | Ellipsis | lol |
| 02:52.40 | Ellipsis | I tried several pixel fonts and realized it just wasn't happening with my setup |
| 02:53.02 | Ellipsis | so I gave up pretty quick and went back to my original concept |
| 02:54.01 | sedai| | ah yeah trial and error, hmm i was thinking FFF Reaction |
| 02:55.25 | sedai| | some fonts i got with CS3 COpy 09XX-10XX |
| 02:55.35 | aestil | ellipsis, i want to kill myself. |
| 02:55.40 | kaiden^ | ya'll wanna see something funny? |
| 02:55.43 | kaiden^ | it has to do with fonts |
| 02:55.48 | sedai| | :o |
| 02:55.49 | Ellipsis | aestil, should I call the cops? :P |
| 02:55.58 | Ellipsis | uh, sure kaiden^ o.O |
| 02:56.16 | aestil | ok, besides layout-cache.txt where would the chat frame stuff be? |
| 02:56.17 | kaiden^ | http://ss.ohnoes.cc/Fostot_02.jpg |
| 02:56.22 | kaiden^ | check out my chat frame lower left hand side |
| 02:56.28 | kaiden^ | fonts are working very weird right now |
| 02:56.38 | Ellipsis | aestil: that's where it gets saved, chat addons sometimes (rarely) override that though |
| 02:56.41 | kaiden^ | text at the lower half of my chat frame is like 13x-14x .. i have the chatframe set to 10x font size |
| 02:56.49 | kaiden^ | as the text gets close to the top of the chat frame, it turns 10x |
| 02:56.54 | kaiden^ | but stays 13x-14x at the bottom |
| 02:56.55 | kaiden^ | lol |
| 02:57.08 | Ellipsis | o.O |
| 02:57.13 | Ellipsis | that's impressive, kaiden^ |
| 02:57.25 | aestil | ChatFrame1 |
| 02:57.27 | aestil | FrameLevel: 6 |
| 02:57.28 | aestil | Anchor: BOTTOMLEFT |
| 02:57.30 | aestil | X: 13 |
| 02:57.32 | aestil | Y: 15 |
| 02:57.33 | aestil | W: 346 |
| 02:57.35 | aestil | H: 140 |
| 02:57.41 | aestil | what does framelevel: 6 mean? |
| 02:57.50 | kaiden^ | check this out |
| 02:57.55 | kaiden^ | http://ss.ohnoes.cc/Fostot_03.jpg |
| 02:57.58 | kaiden^ | that's a better example |
| 02:58.05 | Corgan | o.O |
| 02:58.05 | Ellipsis | aestil, frame level just determined which things get drawn over each other |
| 02:58.08 | kaiden^ | look how large the font at the top of the chat frame is compared to the one on the bottom |
| 02:58.16 | Ellipsis | the Y and H are the important ones |
| 02:58.20 | aestil | like the level of the strata? |
| 02:58.31 | Ellipsis | kaiden^, I think I know what that is |
| 02:58.34 | Ellipsis | yeah aestil |
| 02:58.44 | Ellipsis | wait, kaiden^ - you use prat, right? |
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| 02:59.46 | Toshirou | Is anyone else having issues with docked chat frames updating their text? Does any one know what might cause this or how to fix this? |
| 02:59.58 | aestil | ellipsis, why is the anchor bottom left for some, and bottom right for other chat panes? |
| 03:00.11 | kaiden^ | Ellipsis, yes |
| 03:00.15 | kaiden^ | and clearfont 2 |
| 03:00.25 | kaiden^ | this has been doing this all day though even before prat was updated |
| 03:00.41 | Ellipsis | aestil: WoW automatically decides that based on whether it's left/right of center |
| 03:00.55 | Ellipsis | it's a UI quirk >_> |
| 03:01.14 | Ellipsis | kaiden^: I *think* it was a commit to prat least night that I saw |
| 03:01.15 | aestil | ok. |
| 03:01.30 | aestil | ima see if disableing prat fixes my problem. |
| 03:01.53 | Ellipsis | prat may be resizing them, or minichat if you use that (which it looks like you don't) |
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| 03:03.03 | kaiden^ | nope and that may be it what module is it? |
| 03:03.12 | aestil | ok. i'm screwed. i accidently deleted my first eePanel. |
| 03:03.20 | aestil | i'm basically borked right? |
| 03:03.30 | kaiden^ | why would you be? |
| 03:03.33 | kaiden^ | just create it again |
| 03:03.45 | Ellipsis | not if you haven't logged out or reloaded yet :P |
| 03:03.46 | aestil | yeah, but the 'eePanel' numbers are all off now. |
| 03:03.55 | Ellipsis | all is not lost until your SVs are saved |
| 03:04.02 | aestil | they are saved. |
| 03:04.04 | kaiden^ | aestil, just type /exit and hit exit now |
| 03:04.09 | kaiden^ | oh |
| 03:04.13 | kaiden^ | if you saved your vars yeah |
| 03:04.14 | kaiden^ | your screwed |
| 03:04.15 | kaiden^ | :P |
| 03:04.19 | aestil | i attempted to do that kaiden |
| 03:04.39 | aestil | there is no way to edit the SV file and insert 1 panel at the top? |
| 03:04.47 | Ellipsis | you can |
| 03:04.51 | Ellipsis | but it may or may not work |
| 03:05.07 | aestil | it doesn't have to be a 'good' panel. just need to create *A* panel |
| 03:05.22 | aestil | you know, so that the following 38 panels work. |
| 03:05.59 | Ellipsis | well give it a shot |
| 03:05.59 | kaiden^ | Ellipsis, actually i think it's clearfont 2 |
| 03:06.03 | kaiden^ | that was causing my problems |
| 03:06.04 | Ellipsis | kaiden^ - o.O |
| 03:06.07 | kaiden^ | i deleted it and .. no more problem |
| 03:06.08 | kaiden^ | :P |
| 03:06.12 | Ellipsis | interesting... |
| 03:06.22 | Ellipsis | CF2 *shouldn't* be able to do that |
| 03:06.35 | kaiden^ | it shouldn't but it appears it's broken for setting font size |
| 03:06.38 | kaiden^ | so i think that's what causing it |
| 03:06.42 | Ellipsis | unless maybe you changed size settings while text was being added |
| 03:06.51 | kaiden^ | nope, it's been broken all day |
| 03:06.57 | kaiden^ | anyway, on to greater things |
| 03:07.13 | Ellipsis | now I want to know how that works |
| 03:07.18 | Fisker- | LOL |
| 03:07.22 | kaiden^ | Earlier today i saw a screenshot from from sylvanaar on prat that showed his channel names colored |
| 03:07.26 | kaiden^ | in the channel tabs |
| 03:07.28 | kaiden^ | how'd he do that? |
| 03:07.31 | Ellipsis | because people were actually discussing how to do that (intentionally) on the forums the other day |
| 03:07.38 | Fisker- | there's 50+ level 1's standing in durotar on this server |
| 03:07.40 | Ellipsis | and it was decided that accomplishing it would be too difficult |
| 03:08.23 | aestil | -- is a comment in lua right? |
| 03:08.23 | Seerah | CF2 doesn't touch the chat frame if Prat is installed |
| 03:08.26 | Seerah | yes |
| 03:08.31 | Ellipsis | yes aestil |
| 03:08.48 | aestil | ok, so my panels then, there is no 0 panel. |
| 03:08.57 | aestil | well, there is. |
| 03:08.58 | Seerah | there were conflicts between CF2 and Prat, so CF2 leaves size *and* font alone and lets Prat deal with it |
| 03:09.15 | aestil | the 0 panel [it doesn't say 0] is currently my eePanel1 |
| 03:09.23 | Fisker- | i'm gonna leave you alone Seerah :( |
| 03:09.34 | Seerah | hmm?? |
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| 03:10.06 | Ellipsis | QQ |
| 03:10.49 | pakoz | yo |
| 03:10.56 | pakoz | anyone know what this is caused by? |
| 03:10.57 | pakoz | http://img233.imageshack.us/img233/6049/asd123ff6.jpg |
| 03:11.35 | Seerah | by a change in the Blizzard API. when did you get it? were you using a mod, ItemRack?....... |
| 03:11.56 | Aeyan | pakoz: People have said closetgnome and itemrack |
| 03:12.05 | Seerah | ItemRack was updated today |
| 03:12.06 | Aeyan | Though, I run the lastest itemrack and haven't had any problem |
| 03:12.12 | Aeyan | *latest |
| 03:12.17 | Ellipsis | I haven't had issues with CG either |
| 03:12.28 | pakoz | hmph |
| 03:12.29 | Ellipsis | though I don't use CG_Tooltip which might be the cause |
| 03:12.31 | pakoz | curse gaming is teh down |
| 03:12.35 | pakoz | anyone got a place to DL itemrack? |
| 03:12.50 | Seerah | WoWInterface |
| 03:12.56 | Ellipsis | lol curse is down? |
| 03:12.59 | Ellipsis | amateurs |
| 03:13.02 | pakoz | O.o? |
| 03:13.03 | Ellipsis | :P |
| 03:13.08 | aestil | yeah. that didn't work. |
| 03:13.20 | aestil | error + killed the entire SV |
| 03:13.22 | aestil | shoulda backed it up. |
| 03:13.52 | aestil | thats kinda sad? |
| 03:13.54 | Ellipsis | so...that's the second time, aestil? |
| 03:14.11 | aestil | yes, but this time, because of that chat frame error, i wasn't too upset about it. |
| 03:14.22 | Ellipsis | heh |
| 03:14.26 | aestil | i couldn't get the chat to look right, and the chat is what i do first. |
| 03:14.32 | aestil | so i woulda had to kill all of it. |
| 03:14.42 | aestil | to fix change it anyways. |
| 03:14.48 | aestil | why is eePanels2 like that? |
| 03:14.56 | aestil | the panels frame names should stay the same. |
| 03:15.01 | aestil | instead of being thrown out. |
| 03:15.03 | Ellipsis | tbh, if you can live without your panels for a bit, I'd try making your chat frames less transparent and see if the actual frame sizes stay lined up or not |
| 03:15.16 | Ellipsis | before doing the chat background panels again |
| 03:15.21 | aestil | you should i just edited the layout-cache. |
| 03:15.26 | aestil | everything should be the same size. |
| 03:15.32 | aestil | 346x140 |
| 03:15.42 | Ellipsis | that's why I said *stay* lined up :P |
| 03:16.48 | aestil | anyways, seerah, that one chat pane got bigger, it didn't get out of line, the top of the frame was the same. the bottom came down lower than it had previously |
| 03:17.02 | aestil | the eepanels are not the resizing kind for the chat panes [i never resize them. |
| 03:17.12 | aestil | maybe i should just put in the extra work and resize script those. |
| 03:17.21 | Seerah | odd |
| 03:17.37 | Ellipsis | if you aren't planning to resize your chat frames, I wouldn't bother |
| 03:17.42 | rob` | after a seven hour binge, I just beat Desktop Tower Defense on "hard". |
| 03:17.46 | aestil | and don't mock me ellipsis |
| 03:17.50 | Ellipsis | at the very least, the overlap was less ugly than having the panels not line up :P |
| 03:17.51 | rob` | obsessed much? |
| 03:18.00 | Ellipsis | rob`, I bow before your greatness |
| 03:18.03 | aestil | just because I have to do my eePanels all over again, you don't have to rob it in. |
| 03:18.09 | Ellipsis | lol, rob it in |
| 03:18.13 | rob` | hahah |
| 03:18.41 | Ellipsis | aestil: I'm not mocking, just keeping an eye on you...can't have you near any sharp objects right now :P |
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| 03:18.54 | Ellipsis | [7:54:23 pm] <aestil> ellipsis, i want to kill myself. |
| 03:19.19 | aestil | also, the reality is, i should do some maths and make sure all the chat panes, and the action bars are properly placed and spaced. |
| 03:19.28 | Ellipsis | tbh, I do it >_> |
| 03:19.44 | Seerah | go outside ;) |
| 03:19.49 | pakoz | http://img233.imageshack.us/img233/6049/asd123ff6.jpg paperdoll error (preventing equiped items tooltips from showing) was ItemRack for me |
| 03:19.49 | Ellipsis | lol |
| 03:20.01 | Ellipsis | glad you got it sorted out pakoz :) |
| 03:20.09 | aestil | does layout-cache have the BT3 bar placement? |
| 03:20.14 | Ellipsis | aestil: yup |
| 03:20.34 | aestil | it doesn't tell me the exact size of my bar though. |
| 03:20.37 | aestil | how will i do maths? |
| 03:21.02 | Ellipsis | I usually place one bar by hand then line the rest up with it |
| 03:21.14 | aestil | well, i want it exactly centered. |
| 03:21.25 | Ellipsis | I could fix you up a macro to do that |
| 03:21.39 | Ellipsis | then you can line the rest up via layout-cache |
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| 03:21.50 | Seerah | Align ftw for that |
| 03:21.55 | aestil | wait wait, layout-cache doesn't have the BT3 thing |
| 03:22.00 | aestil | can you snap to align? |
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| 03:22.16 | [AoC]Camci | hey guys |
| 03:22.17 | Ellipsis | nope, but there's SnapToGrid |
| 03:22.17 | Seerah | no, but you can change the size of the grid |
| 03:22.19 | aestil | there is no action bar info in layout-cache |
| 03:22.21 | Ellipsis | I think that's the name >_> |
| 03:22.27 | [AoC]Camci | can someone help me a sec? :P |
| 03:22.28 | Ellipsis | aestil: o.O |
| 03:22.39 | Seerah | ask away |
| 03:22.51 | Ellipsis | Frame: BT3Bar1 |
| 03:22.52 | Ellipsis | FrameLevel: 3 |
| 03:22.52 | Ellipsis | Anchor: BOTTOM |
| 03:22.59 | Ellipsis | ^in my layout-cache.txt |
| 03:23.05 | aestil | you cheated and put it in there. |
| 03:23.10 | Ellipsis | yep |
| 03:23.16 | Ellipsis | it's my ev0l plan to take over the world |
| 03:23.20 | Ellipsis | (shh, don't tell) |
| 03:23.21 | aestil | right? it wasn't in there on its own? |
| 03:23.33 | Ellipsis | nah, all my BT3 bars are in there |
| 03:23.33 | [AoC]Camci | You know when your doing battleground or world pbp you got this thingie on top of your screen that shows what faction for waht, like on this SS http://i22.tinypic.com/11wa6mf.jpg |
| 03:23.42 | aestil | hmm, i'm not using a profile for BT3. |
| 03:23.44 | [AoC]Camci | is there a way to move it? |
| 03:23.45 | aestil | its just 'default' |
| 03:24.07 | aestil | i wonder if there is only info in the layout-cache if you make it character specific, otherwise it stays in the BT3 .sv |
| 03:24.10 | Ellipsis | aestil, that's SVs stuff, and I use default profile as well |
| 03:24.12 | Seerah | it's moved in that screenshot, isn't it? ;) |
| 03:24.17 | [AoC]Camci | it is |
| 03:24.20 | [AoC]Camci | but its not my screenshot |
| 03:24.31 | [AoC]Camci | So, im wondering how do i move it? :D |
| 03:24.43 | Seerah | [AoC]Camci: use moveFrames. There are others that can, but that's what I can think of off the top of my head atm |
| 03:24.49 | [AoC]Camci | cuz i got my party frame up there... so its in the way |
| 03:25.05 | [AoC]Camci | Seerah: I will try it, thank you |
| 03:25.13 | Ellipsis | that reminds me, I need to stop being lazy and figure out how to hide that thing |
| 03:25.15 | Ellipsis | >_> |
| 03:25.31 | [AoC]Camci | and that can be found at: http://files.wowace.com/ ? |
| 03:25.45 | Ellipsis | no [AoC]Camci, check WoWInterface |
| 03:26.04 | [AoC]Camci | Alright :) Also i have noticed http://files.wowace.com/ being really slow lately... :/ |
| 03:26.07 | Seerah | Ellipsis: Interface Options |
| 03:26.11 | Ellipsis | yeah, it's patch day lag |
| 03:26.13 | [AoC]Camci | its like eating 90% of my CPU... |
| 03:26.16 | Vires | Ah damn, I missed House |
| 03:26.18 | Ellipsis | Seerah: O RLY? |
| 03:26.21 | Ellipsis | how did I miss that >_< |
| 03:26.22 | Seerah | for the one that pops up when you're in Nagrand f.e. |
| 03:26.34 | Seerah | Vires: very surprising ending |
| 03:27.16 | Ellipsis | oh that was tonight wasn't it |
| 03:27.26 | Ellipsis | I have to go find it o.o |
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| 03:27.36 | Ellipsis | I mean..you know...a friend who videotaped it...yeah |
| 03:27.59 | [AoC]Camci | never heard of House but, PB ftw :p |
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| 03:28.23 | Seerah | PB? |
| 03:28.28 | [AoC]Camci | prison break |
| 03:28.30 | aestil | so, yeah, no BT3 in my layout-cache. wtf. |
| 03:28.43 | Vires | House, M.D |
| 03:28.58 | Ellipsis | wait, what? my fonts are all different o.o |
| 03:29.08 | [AoC]Camci | Anyone know why http://files.wowace.com/ is eating 99 % of my CPU ?? -_- |
| 03:29.24 | Vires | Was Violation the Damage Meter that had all those sexy graphs in the forum page? I don't seem them now =( |
| 03:29.40 | Seerah | I would think that BT3 bar placement would be in the profile tables. since they can be different depending on profile |
| 03:29.56 | Ellipsis | Vires, nope |
| 03:29.59 | Seerah | Vires: no. Assessment perhaps |
| 03:30.01 | Ellipsis | I think that was Recount, but not sure |
| 03:30.05 | Seerah | not sure |
| 03:30.25 | aestil | seerah, where are profile tables? |
| 03:30.36 | Seerah | the saved variables |
| 03:30.54 | Seerah | ie, Default profile -> Bag bar -> posX, posY |
| 03:31.01 | Seerah | yep. just looked |
| 03:31.05 | Vires | Recount it was |
| 03:31.08 | aestil | default profile? |
| 03:31.14 | Seerah | any profile |
| 03:31.28 | aestil | bag bar? |
| 03:31.40 | Seerah | WTF\Account\account\Saved Variables\Bartender3.lua |
| 03:31.54 | aestil | yeah, that doesn't exist |
| 03:32.07 | *** join/#wowace Rhaene (n=chatzill@S0106000c76e83aa9.vf.shawcable.net) |
| 03:32.20 | Seerah | if that doesn't exist, then you've wiped your saved variables since you loaded the game with BT3 enabled |
| 03:32.22 | Ellipsis | aestil, are you sure you have BT3 installed? :P |
| 03:33.15 | Ellipsis | my chat frames are using a font that ClearFont doesn't even know about...how did I do that? |
| 03:33.30 | Seerah | Prat? |
| 03:33.56 | Seerah | I said up above that CF2 doesn't touch the chat frames if you have prat installed |
| 03:34.01 | Ellipsis | I don't use Prat |
| 03:34.07 | Seerah | hmmm |
| 03:34.12 | Ellipsis | or any other chat addons except my own code which definitely doesn't touch fonts |
| 03:34.47 | Ellipsis | I think it may be a glitch in my CF2 >_> |
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| 03:35.12 | Ellipsis | perhaps a SharedMedia font that's not showing up in the list like that one thing people said |
| 03:35.22 | Seerah | do you know which font it is? |
| 03:38.36 | RaydenUni | so how is the patch treating poeple? |
| 03:39.34 | Wobwork | By lessening their cravings with a slow release of nicotene |
| 03:40.02 | Seerah | curse is back up |
| 03:40.07 | sedai| | o_0 |
| 03:40.10 | [AoC]Camci | cant find moveFrames at woace |
| 03:40.12 | [AoC]Camci | wow* |
| 03:41.50 | Seerah | hmm.... I logged in to Curse and it signed me into someone else's account o.O |
| 03:42.04 | dylanm | Is it Kaelten? Start changing stuff. |
| 03:42.20 | Seerah | santigo |
| 03:42.33 | Kaelten | Seerah: say what? |
| 03:42.36 | Seerah | just logged out and back in and it did the same thing |
| 03:42.38 | Seerah | seriously |
| 03:42.53 | Kaelten | wtf |
| 03:42.59 | Seerah | that's what I thought |
| 03:43.41 | Seerah | 3 times now |
| 03:44.09 | Seerah | I wants to see my favorites, Kaelten :( |
| 03:44.09 | [AoC]Camci | clear your cookies/ch |
| 03:44.17 | [AoC]Camci | chacg'* |
| 03:44.19 | [AoC]Camci | cach* |
| 03:44.21 | [AoC]Camci | sach* |
| 03:44.24 | [AoC]Camci | whatveer... |
| 03:44.26 | [AoC]Camci | what ever... |
| 03:44.27 | [AoC]Camci | ^^ |
| 03:44.27 | Seerah | heh, santigo has never been to this household ;) |
| 03:44.29 | Wobwork | cache? |
| 03:44.32 | Kaelten | Seerah: try now |
| 03:44.33 | [AoC]Camci | yes! |
| 03:45.27 | Seerah | nope. I also get this error when I log in: Internal Server Error |
| 03:45.37 | Kaelten | ... |
| 03:45.39 | Seerah | darn copy/paste |
| 03:46.22 | Seerah | clearing cache now |
| 03:47.19 | Seerah | still not working. I don't need to see faves now. It's just........ very odd :D |
| 03:47.57 | [AoC]Camci | log out? |
| 03:48.02 | [AoC]Camci | and log in with your name? |
| 03:48.06 | Seerah | did that 5 times |
| 03:48.12 | [AoC]Camci | O.o |
| 03:48.12 | *** join/#wowace Bver (n=chatzill@cpe-72-225-58-75.rochester.res.rr.com) |
| 03:48.20 | Seerah | ^^^^ |
| 03:48.23 | [AoC]Camci | log out and THEN clear cache |
| 03:49.03 | Seerah | I did :) |
| 03:49.11 | Bver | is there a way to anchor party pets with their party member in aguf ?? |
| 03:49.20 | Bver | i cant seem to find it |
| 03:49.35 | Seerah | you can increase their padding/spacing so that they line up, bver |
| 03:50.20 | Bver | well they appear in the middle of the screen, no where near the party |
| 03:50.34 | Bver | is there an group option, like the player pet? |
| 03:50.58 | Seerah | move them over by the party and line them up like I said :P |
| 03:51.10 | Seerah | brb |
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| 03:52.33 | *** mode/#wowace [+o Tem] by ChanServ |
| 03:52.47 | Vires | Ace have an addon similiar to what CT's WorldFrame hack was? |
| 03:56.14 | sedai| | you know you have copy and pasted much to much when you have... |
| 03:56.21 | Kaelten | Seerah: tell me if you get the same thing now |
| 03:56.29 | sedai| | been at the fridge and copy adn pasted milk to your coffee |
| 03:56.35 | sedai| | :P |
| 03:57.32 | Kaelten | if its still borked we're going to have to disable logins |
| 03:58.14 | theoddone33 | BoP epic JC pattenrs get a thumbs up from me |
| 03:58.54 | Recluse | anyone having trouble with playsoundfile() only working some of the time since the patch? |
| 03:58.59 | Kaelten | Seerah: HELPPPPPPPPP! |
| 03:59.08 | Aeyan | HALP? |
| 04:01.05 | mikma | hlep |
| 04:01.34 | Aeyan | Ooo, that's weird |
| 04:01.37 | Kaelten | ? |
| 04:01.38 | Aeyan | Just did the same thing to me |
| 04:01.42 | Kaelten | its still doing it? |
| 04:01.42 | Aeyan | I shouldn't have logged out =P |
| 04:01.47 | sedai| | what is .wau? |
| 04:01.48 | Aeyan | Yes |
| 04:02.28 | sedai| | what does a ".wau" file type stand for? |
| 04:02.32 | *** join/#wowace Ellipsis_ (n=ellipsis@cpe-76-168-204-11.socal.res.rr.com) |
| 04:02.38 | sedai| | whats its purpose, its function, why is it there |
| 04:02.46 | mikma | wild anal under |
| 04:02.58 | sedai| | what drives it guides it, what its purpose, because without purose MR ANDERSON |
| 04:03.00 | sedai| | dnsagjkasbhlegsal;gh |
| 04:03.35 | sedai| | can someone help with making a cusom font pack for CF please? |
| 04:03.54 | sedai| | ive edited the lua |
| 04:04.07 | sedai| | but now i see there is a ziplist.wau and source.wau |
| 04:04.17 | Kaelten | Aeyan: working on another fix, please stay tuned |
| 04:04.20 | sedai| | are those important to getting the fonts to work? |
| 04:04.28 | Aeyan | I'll be here if you need testing |
| 04:04.31 | mikma | Kaelten: "insert elevatormusic here" |
| 04:04.35 | [AoC]Camci | .wau is a package ^^ |
| 04:04.48 | Kaelten | .wau files ahve to do witht he udpater |
| 04:05.02 | [AoC]Camci | it does |
| 04:05.23 | sedai| | so my font pack will work if i dont update those? |
| 04:05.24 | Seerah | Kaelten: I stepped away for some cereal :P sec |
| 04:05.33 | sedai| | im sick of copy and pasting |
| 04:05.52 | sedai| | i has mild add me thinks |
| 04:06.41 | Kaelten | Aeyan: try it now |
| 04:07.00 | Kaelten | Seerah: same goes for you |
| 04:07.13 | Seerah | didn't work |
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| 04:07.24 | Aeyan | Yeah, didn't work |
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| 04:07.28 | *** mode/#wowace [+v KarlThePagan] by ChanServ |
| 04:07.32 | Aeyan | Always happens the same way too... |
| 04:07.41 | Aeyan | I input my info, submit and get an error page |
| 04:07.43 | Seerah | who do you get aeyan? |
| 04:07.58 | Seerah | I'm not getting an error page now. Just 3 ish times |
| 04:08.01 | Aeyan | I go back, submit again and log into someone elses account |
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| 04:08.06 | Aeyan | stromhammes |
| 04:08.06 | Seerah | out of the 5-6 attempts |
| 04:08.09 | *** part/#wowace Mike-N-Go (n=MikeNGoS@64.193.93.197) |
| 04:08.19 | sedai| | i guess ill just try it and see if it works and if it doesnt ill ahve to update EVERYTHING AND ITS MOM |
| 04:08.20 | sedai| | adsngklehg |
| 04:08.26 | Seerah | then the database must be mixed up/confused :( |
| 04:08.54 | Aeyan | And yeah, Kaelten, it's always the same person's account |
| 04:09.03 | Seerah | When I got the error, I would click "continue to home page" and I would be logged in to sentigo's account |
| 04:09.06 | [AoC]Camci | someone tell me the difference between ace addons and none ace addons? :P |
| 04:09.17 | Aeyan | Ace addons use the Ace framework |
| 04:09.24 | Seerah | umm..... besides the libraries, nothing |
| 04:09.26 | [AoC]Camci | yea...? |
| 04:09.46 | Seerah | what type of answer were you looking for? |
| 04:10.16 | [AoC]Camci | dunno thought Ace addons were taking less memory/cpu or something :P |
| 04:10.25 | Wobwork | That depends on the coder |
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| 04:10.47 | [AoC]Camci | i see |
| 04:10.48 | Aeyan | It's really a developer tool designed to simplying creating addons, but it helps users in that Ace addons reuse code from the libraries |
| 04:10.50 | Wobwork | It used to be that we pretty much heckled any ace coder so that the addons tended towards that |
| 04:10.52 | Seerah | Only if you use enough of them to take advantage of the libraries and shared code. but yeah. Shitty coder = shitty mod |
| 04:10.55 | Wobwork | but we stopped doing that after a while |
| 04:11.20 | yssaril | anyone know how to make fubar to only go partially across a sreen? |
| 04:11.21 | Seerah | good coder = good code. the use of a framework or not has no effect on that |
| 04:11.27 | yssaril | *screen |
| 04:11.28 | Seerah | drag it from the edge |
| 04:11.33 | Aeyan | Unlock it and drag the edge |
| 04:11.40 | yssaril | kk |
| 04:11.43 | Seerah | you can also drag the fubar anywhere you want on screen |
| 04:12.08 | Wobwork | once you've set it off from docking to the top/bottom |
| 04:12.29 | Kaelten | btw, logins on curse have been disabled |
| 04:12.44 | Seerah | thank you, wobin :) |
| 04:12.50 | Seerah | kk, kaelten |
| 04:13.00 | Aeyan | Yeah, I figured Kaelten |
| 04:13.10 | [AoC]Camci | Kaelten your the one handleing curse? :P |
| 04:13.11 | Aeyan | Just tried 5 times, and it always errored out =P |
| 04:13.14 | Kaelten | until we can find out whats the wrong |
| 04:13.30 | Kaelten | I work for curse, I also run wowace.com |
| 04:14.00 | [AoC]Camci | thats cool... i was actually a staff for curse... had no time to continue :/ |
| 04:14.10 | Kaelten | project lead for Ace2/3, ect |
| 04:14.16 | Kaelten | oh, they pay me for my time :) |
| 04:14.33 | [AoC]Camci | nice :D |
| 04:15.37 | Kaelten | Seerah: try logging in |
| 04:15.44 | Kaelten | Aeyan: try logging in again please |
| 04:15.49 | Aeyan | Bingo |
| 04:15.52 | Aeyan | Worked right this time |
| 04:16.05 | Aeyan | Wait... |
| 04:16.28 | Aeyan | Ok, it takes me to my profile page |
| 04:16.31 | [AoC]Camci | ill try too |
| 04:16.33 | Aeyan | But I'm not actually logged in |
| 04:17.15 | [AoC]Camci | works for me |
| 04:17.28 | Aeyan | Not for me |
| 04:17.37 | Aeyan | Logs me into the correct page though (my profile) |
| 04:17.47 | Aeyan | Well, takes me to the correct page |
| 04:18.07 | Aeyan | Oh, there it goes |
| 04:18.08 | Kaelten | try now Aeyan |
| 04:18.14 | Aeyan | Yeah, got it |
| 04:18.26 | Aeyan | Lemme try logging out and in again |
| 04:18.35 | Aeyan | Yep, still works |
| 04:18.39 | Aeyan | Looks like you got it |
| 04:19.44 | Aeyan | Badges? I don't need no stinkin' badges. |
| 04:19.52 | [AoC]Camci | one thing i miss in wowace.com is screenshot of the mods... but eh you cant get everything :P |
| 04:20.17 | Paene | Some of the mods have screenshots I believe |
| 04:20.26 | Paene | and it is a wiki |
| 04:20.33 | Paene | so you could always add some :) |
| 04:20.40 | Aeyan | Well, the wiki is in massive disrepair at the moment |
| 04:20.48 | kaiden^ | Anyone here see the screenshot that sylvanaar posted of prat showing the chat tabs having different colors for their text, how'd he do that? |
| 04:20.55 | Aeyan | Except the autogenerated stuff |
| 04:20.57 | kaiden^ | is it just a module he's working on but hasn't released yet? |
| 04:21.07 | [AoC]Camci | no i mean here: http://files.wowace.com/ there could be a link for a screenshot for each mod or something :P |
| 04:21.15 | Paene | ah |
| 04:21.16 | Aeyan | Ah, that |
| 04:21.36 | [AoC]Camci | would be really nice i think |
| 04:21.44 | Aeyan | Good job on whoever worked on that, by the way, Kaelten |
| 04:21.52 | [AoC]Camci | yea indeed |
| 04:21.56 | Kaelten | that was me |
| 04:22.01 | Aeyan | Good job then =P |
| 04:22.06 | Paene | indeed |
| 04:22.10 | Paene | very nice |
| 04:22.22 | Kaelten | got more planned |
| 04:22.26 | [AoC]Camci | however everytime i visit that site its eating 99% of my CPU... is that just me or ? |
| 04:22.31 | Aeyan | Forum/wiki links? |
| 04:22.35 | Paene | Is there a v2.0 of WAU? or does the channel message lie? |
| 04:22.44 | Aeyan | www.wowace.com/wau2 |
| 04:22.45 | Kaelten | Camci: its probablhy related to the Fury challenge ad |
| 04:23.00 | [AoC]Camci | dunno what that is :P |
| 04:23.05 | Aeyan | It's still in testing though |
| 04:23.11 | Paene | ah ic |
| 04:23.23 | Kaelten | Fury flash ad on the page can cause that problem on peoples systems |
| 04:23.24 | Aeyan | [AoC]Camci: WoW Ace Updater |
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| 04:23.36 | [AoC]Camci | oh, ok |
| 04:24.02 | Paene | hm...switched from .net to java |
| 04:24.04 | Paene | interesting |
| 04:24.31 | Aeyan | Guessing it was a cross-platform decision |
| 04:24.34 | Paene | prob |
| 04:24.37 | kaiden^ | yeah :p |
| 04:24.52 | KarlThePagan | it's something I need to get my ass back in gear on after work gets its claws out of my skin |
| 04:24.57 | KarlThePagan | wau2 that is :/ |
| 04:25.04 | Aeyan | Hehe |
| 04:25.08 | Paene | I don't know .net :-/ though I hear it's similar to Java |
| 04:25.19 | Paene | at least C# |
| 04:25.22 | Paene | that is |
| 04:25.29 | Aeyan | Dunno, I got out of the programming scene |
| 04:25.30 | KarlThePagan | I'm pretty pissed at Eclipse 3.3 and their mac hostileness... |
| 04:25.36 | Paene | lol |
| 04:25.38 | Aeyan | Now I just remember enough to fiddle with my addons |
| 04:25.44 | Paene | my school runs linux on everything |
| 04:25.52 | Paene | Fedora |
| 04:25.59 | KarlThePagan | so I basically want to drop eclipse libraries and go with pure sun libs |
| 04:26.11 | KarlThePagan | anyways... frustration |
| 04:26.15 | Aeyan | Mine runs Solaris mostly |
| 04:26.15 | Paene | indeed |
| 04:26.22 | Aeyan | Or did |
| 04:26.34 | Recluse | after calling RegisterTranslations() how (or is possible) to add translations to the table later in code? |
| 04:26.43 | Paene | we have 2 solaris labs, 3 or 4 fedora labs, and 1 windows lab of like 10 computers for the ME's |
| 04:26.50 | [AoC]Camci | anyone remember the old "SpellAlertSCT" ? |
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| 04:27.01 | Aeyan | I do |
| 04:27.12 | liquidzoo | I do |
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| 04:27.29 | [AoC]Camci | is WitchHunt something like that? or better? havent tried it, still use that SCT one ^^ |
| 04:27.52 | Aeyan | Same idea, yeah |
| 04:28.11 | Aeyan | WitchHunt might be able to send stuff to SCT, etc now |
| 04:28.19 | Aeyan | I haven't used it in forever, so I'm not sure |
| 04:28.42 | [AoC]Camci | aah cool... will check it... tahts why i would love to have an link for SS for addons there... so you can see how they look like and so :) |
| 04:29.08 | Aeyan | Ah yes it does: http://www.wowace.com/wiki/WitchHunt |
| 04:29.18 | Paene | Need to find a Cryolysis replacement...I was maintaining it for awhile, but I don't have time to anymore |
| 04:29.39 | [AoC]Camci | ill check as soon the website stops lagging the shit out of my comp :P |
| 04:29.46 | Aeyan | Think there was a project around called Sphere |
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| 04:29.51 | Aeyan | It was for all classes though |
| 04:29.57 | Paene | LunarSphere maybe? |
| 04:30.00 | Aeyan | That too |
| 04:30.07 | Aeyan | Two different projects |
| 04:30.11 | Paene | oh cool |
| 04:30.27 | KarlThePagan | is anyone's OneBank malfunctioning? |
| 04:31.09 | Kaelten | KarlThePagan: just yours |
| 04:31.25 | KarlThePagan | hooray! |
| 04:31.36 | Paene | is agUF still maintained? or is it all Pitbull now? |
| 04:31.44 | KarlThePagan | BankFrameItemButton_OnUpdate etc etc |
| 04:32.21 | KarlThePagan | Kaelten, want a pastey? |
| 04:32.35 | KarlThePagan | wait... jira right |
| 04:32.37 | KarlThePagan | checking |
| 04:33.04 | Kaelten | email |
| 04:33.06 | Kaelten | or I'll loose it |
| 04:33.12 | Kaelten | I'm working to keep wowace and curse up |
| 04:33.37 | Paene | argh, looks like Sphere isn't maintained anymore :-/ |
| 04:33.37 | Aeyan | Paene: It's still maintained |
| 04:33.52 | Aeyan | Some people like it more than pitbull - uses less memory |
| 04:33.57 | KarlThePagan | oh right... thx |
| 04:34.00 | KarlThePagan | good luck :) |
| 04:34.09 | [AoC]Camci | agUF rocks :D |
| 04:34.15 | KarlThePagan | good job on wowace so far... I only saw one timeout today |
| 04:34.23 | [AoC]Camci | i hope photekUI updates his UI for 2.2... love his UI |
| 04:34.31 | [AoC]Camci | :P |
| 04:35.05 | Paene | yeah, less memory usage is why i like agUF, however the lack of on-the-buff timers is kinda annoying :-/ |
| 04:35.11 | Paene | that's what I like in Pitbull |
| 04:35.30 | Paene | it'd be nice to drop Chronometer |
| 04:35.44 | Aeyan | Photek looks kinda sorta like mine |
| 04:35.48 | KarlThePagan | Paene, Quartz? |
| 04:35.55 | Aeyan | Wish I had a widescreen monitor |
| 04:36.06 | KarlThePagan | i mean... I miss a few of the Chronometer timers... but not many of them |
| 04:36.25 | Paene | Quarts is the casting bar replacement right? |
| 04:36.31 | Paene | haven't tried it yet |
| 04:36.40 | KarlThePagan | it also has target buff/debuff timers |
| 04:36.42 | KarlThePagan | pretty nice |
| 04:36.43 | Aeyan | Yeah, but the way it does timers is like classtimer |
| 04:36.50 | Aeyan | Pulled from the API |
| 04:37.01 | Paene | I'll have to check it out |
| 04:37.02 | Aeyan | So it can't track stuff on other targets |
| 04:37.13 | Paene | I use agUF's castbar on my player frame atm |
| 04:37.16 | KarlThePagan | well... chronometer can't unless you cast it right? |
| 04:37.29 | Aeyan | Yeah |
| 04:37.43 | Aeyan | Not putting down chronometer |
| 04:37.47 | Aeyan | Just a different way of doing it |
| 04:38.12 | Paene | I'll give Quartz a try |
| 04:38.28 | Aeyan | I lub Quartz |
| 04:38.37 | Antiarc | Who's maintaining XLoot these days? |
| 04:39.03 | Paene | Anybody here use Gmail? (the mod) |
| 04:39.08 | [AoC]Camci | i use Gmail |
| 04:39.12 | [AoC]Camci | and Xloot is really nice too |
| 04:39.20 | Paene | it's not on files.wowace.com anymore |
| 04:39.20 | [AoC]Camci | and so is Quartz |
| 04:39.27 | Paene | was just curious if there's something better now |
| 04:39.34 | [AoC]Camci | i have never seen it on wowace.com tbh |
| 04:39.49 | Aeyan | Xloot is still on wowace |
| 04:39.58 | Aeyan | I just updated it a little while ago |
| 04:39.59 | Antiarc | XLoot is still broken as of 5 minutes ago |
| 04:39.59 | Paene | it was a long time ago, I used to use CT_MailMod, until I found Gmail on wowace |
| 04:40.12 | Antiarc | and I would like to commit a fix if it's kosher but Xuerian is nowhere to be found |
| 04:40.12 | Vires | I use Postal. |
| 04:40.32 | [AoC]Camci | XLoot works perfect for me... |
| 04:40.38 | Kody | http://news.curse.com/details/3174/ for anyone that cares; an update on the Curse issues |
| 04:40.41 | [AoC]Camci | used it for months without any errors... |
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| 04:40.58 | Paene | what's so special about xLoot? |
| 04:41.01 | [AoC]Camci | aah Kody |
| 04:41.05 | Antiarc | Xloot = awesome |
| 04:41.07 | [AoC]Camci | long time no seen :P |
| 04:41.11 | [AoC]Camci | hows you? |
| 04:41.23 | Kody | Doing great, you? ;) |
| 04:41.34 | [AoC]Camci | im good good, you probably dont remember me? :P |
| 04:41.43 | Kody | Sure I do! |
| 04:41.51 | [AoC]Camci | great to be remembered! :D |
| 04:42.23 | [AoC]Camci | i see you guys has done great work lately |
| 04:42.29 | [AoC]Camci | gotta congratz you guys |
| 04:43.05 | Kody | Thanks :) |
| 04:44.16 | aestil | funkey claimed to have made a commit to BW, but i never saw it. |
| 04:44.27 | Paene | wow |
| 04:44.31 | Paene | XLoot looks nice |
| 04:44.57 | aestil | yes it does. xloot is probably my most frivilous but most awesome mod. |
| 04:45.01 | aestil | maybe eePanels2. |
| 04:45.03 | aestil | i dunno. |
| 04:45.37 | Vires | I'm a big fan of Elk's Buff bars =p |
| 04:45.57 | Aeyan | Definitely eepanels 2 for me |
| 04:46.01 | Aeyan | But I use xloot too |
| 04:46.06 | Aeyan | Loot window looks pretty |
| 04:46.37 | CIA-22 | 03antiarc * r49800 10XLoot/XLoot.lua: XLoot: Fix a call to a non-existant hook |
| 04:46.41 | Antiarc | Xloot isn't frivilous when you start masterlooting for raids. |
| 04:46.43 | Antiarc | It's really nice. |
| 04:46.58 | Xinhuan | Antiarc: how does it make masterlooting easier? |
| 04:47.33 | Antiarc | It gives you a list of classes, rather than groups, and it provides "assign item to random person" functionality, among others. |
| 04:47.35 | gnorlish | lots of colorful options! |
| 04:47.43 | gnorlish | leads to less mistakes |
| 04:47.52 | Vires | My only problem with xloot (they are nice looking) is that the "BoP" string sometimes over covers the item count... like the Harvest stuff... it's unique and looting them returns odd values (like 7? 8?).. so to make sure I can get them all gotta see how many I need to destroy first. |
| 04:48.26 | [AoC]Camci | [06:47] <Antiarc> It gives you a list of classes, rather than groups, and it provides "assign item to random person" functionality, among others. |
| 04:48.32 | [AoC]Camci | why cant i find that ??? |
| 04:48.49 | gnorlish | right click an item when you're masterlooting |
| 04:48.56 | Antiarc | Install XLootMaster |
| 04:48.57 | Antiarc | Separate module |
| 04:48.59 | Paene | Anyone have any idea how far along Sphere came? |
| 04:49.03 | [AoC]Camci | ooh |
| 04:49.08 | [AoC]Camci | maybe that will work :P |
| 04:49.12 | [AoC]Camci | will try thanks |
| 04:51.29 | Paene | I need to start looking through the svn more often |
| 04:51.33 | Paene | found like 5 new mods I want |
| 04:51.38 | Paene | in just a few mins |
| 04:56.19 | Aeyan | Hehe |
| 04:58.21 | Aeyan | I need to look less |
| 04:58.29 | Aeyan | My addon folder is large enough as it is |
| 04:58.54 | kaiden^ | Is there any way to /print out the UIScale? |
| 04:59.05 | kaiden^ | or any way to set it via /script to exact numbers |
| 04:59.26 | Aeyan | You can do it in your config.wtf |
| 04:59.29 | Aeyan | In the WTF folder |
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| 05:00.48 | Paene | ugh, Postal doesn't have mass-mailing |
| 05:00.50 | kadrahil | nice, wow makes me freaking restart the game now when i switch from my headset to my main speakers |
| 05:00.53 | [AoC]Camci | wow, MikScrollingBattleText makes SCT look like shit |
| 05:00.56 | [AoC]Camci | :P |
| 05:01.23 | mikma | (waiting for fanbois) |
| 05:01.29 | kadrahil | O_o |
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| 05:02.31 | kaiden^ | [AoC]Camci, Parrot rocks them both << Fanboi comment |
| 05:02.55 | Tsikura | I have a parrot. I really named it stfu |
| 05:03.11 | kaiden^ | Tsikura, yay for you |
| 05:03.14 | Vires | Paene: Yes it does... just doesn't look like it. Type the name in the to box and alt click your items |
| 05:03.15 | Tsikura | i had the pick the most retarded one at the store |
| 05:03.18 | Tsikura | to' |
| 05:03.55 | Tsikura | no, im not saying stfu to you. all my guests tells me the parrot needs to be fed to some cats or something. muahaha |
| 05:04.18 | Aeyan | I never liked MSBT or Parrot till I majorly rearranged my layout around |
| 05:04.52 | [AoC]Camci | kaiden^ have not seen Parrot... where can i see it? :P |
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| 05:05.34 | Aeyan | Looks and is set up a lot like MSBT |
| 05:05.43 | Aeyan | Umm |
| 05:05.46 | kaiden^ | [AoC]Camci, files.wowace.com |
| 05:05.59 | kaiden^ | Aeyan, yes but ckk makes it so that makes it better |
| 05:05.59 | kaiden^ | heh |
| 05:06.01 | hyperChipmunk | that's awesome; they restored the pitch control on swimming/mounts |
| 05:06.02 | Paene | yeah, Sphere is definitely an unfinished mod, only partly working |
| 05:06.07 | hyperChipmunk | and you can now do full loops |
| 05:06.11 | mikma | i still think this is too damn hilarious: http://farmphoto.com/fpv2/message.aspx?mid=462163 |
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| 05:06.21 | kaiden^ | hyperChipmunk, full loops, whuh? |
| 05:06.25 | hyperChipmunk | yea |
| 05:06.36 | hyperChipmunk | use your pitch and it goes all the way around now |
| 05:06.37 | Aeyan | http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v372/Aeyan/Warcraft/ui0907-combat.jpg |
| 05:06.49 | Aeyan | ^ Not the best example, but that's Parrot in that screenshot |
| 05:06.54 | hyperChipmunk | without needing to fiddle with /console pitchlimit |
| 05:07.06 | hyperChipmunk | and it does it with the pitch key, so it's nice and smooth |
| 05:07.13 | Tsikura | not bad |
| 05:07.15 | [AoC]Camci | Aeyan |
| 05:07.19 | [AoC]Camci | thats MSBT ? |
| 05:07.23 | Aeyan | No, Parrot |
| 05:07.27 | neenee | Which button-bar are you using Aeyan? |
| 05:07.32 | Aeyan | Bongos2 |
| 05:07.37 | Tsikura | what type of animation can parrot do |
| 05:07.37 | neenee | ok |
| 05:07.46 | [AoC]Camci | Parrot and MSBT looks the same ^^ |
| 05:07.48 | hyperChipmunk | Tsikura: about 15 different kinds |
| 05:08.07 | Tsikura | ill have to check it out |
| 05:08.16 | neenee | msbt does not have the icons I think, nor the ability to show loot? |
| 05:08.35 | Aeyan | Action, Action Sticky, Angled, Horizontal, Parabola, Pow, Rainbow, Semicircle, Sprinkler, Static, Straight |
| 05:08.36 | [AoC]Camci | Parrot alows you to add new spell area? like MSBT? thats what im missing in SCT... |
| 05:08.51 | Aeyan | Yes |
| 05:09.04 | m0oSe | Is anyone else having a problem with Omen reading pets threat incorrectly? |
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| 05:10.11 | neenee | Drat. The patch doesn't see my 'wow.exe', so I have to reinstall. |
| 05:11.00 | Aeyan | That's no good |
| 05:11.04 | Tsikura | trying cursing. that usually helps a little |
| 05:11.18 | neenee | It's probably because I haven't installed wow but copied it |
| 05:11.30 | NeoTron | ok great |
| 05:11.37 | NeoTron | al'ar meteoring every 30s now.. |
| 05:11.39 | NeoTron | twice as often as usual |
| 05:12.07 | Xinhuan | really? |
| 05:12.24 | NeoTron | yeah |
| 05:12.31 | NeoTron | we had both adds up when he went up again |
| 05:12.35 | Tsikura | going into combat with al'ar crashes the server im on :/ |
| 05:12.38 | NeoTron | and timer said like 29s |
| 05:13.07 | NeoTron | so basically we need to put everyone on adds and hope for the best |
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| 05:13.41 | [AoC]Camci | wth they changed the add spawn on al'ar? |
| 05:13.56 | *** part/#wowace Paene (n=Jim@24-236-181-169.dhcp.mrqt.mi.charter.com) |
| 05:14.07 | Tsikura | they messed up. they hotfixing the timers back to normal soon |
| 05:14.25 | [AoC]Camci | ah... |
| 05:16.11 | neenee | woo. If I run wow.exe and let the patcher run from there, it updates without reinstalling :) |
| 05:17.36 | neenee | hm. And now I broke it by aborting. |
| 05:17.45 | Tsikura | gg |
| 05:18.01 | neenee | I had to abort to rename the file the game was in :| |
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| 05:20.24 | neenee | woo. un-broke it. |
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| 05:23.47 | kaiden^ | Kirkburn, AHHHHHH cf2 is completely fubar'd :P |
| 05:24.00 | Kirkburn | by? |
| 05:24.27 | Aeyan | Mine's working gut |
| 05:24.47 | kaiden^ | my font sizes were hosed, i had to get rid of CF2 to let prat handle setting the font sizes |
| 05:24.57 | Kirkburn | Chat font sizes? |
| 05:25.01 | kaiden^ | otherwise i had weird problems like http://ss.ohnoes.cc/Fostot_03.jpg |
| 05:25.02 | kaiden^ | yup |
| 05:25.21 | Birdemani | is autobar still not working for anyone else? |
| 05:25.23 | Kirkburn | ClearFont shouldn't do anything to them ... |
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| 05:25.38 | kaiden^ | the top few lines would be gigantor and the bottom lines would be smaller it was funky freaky |
| 05:25.58 | Kirkburn | Ah, they changed how the chat box works, did they not? |
| 05:26.26 | Aeyan | Yeah, they messed with channel management |
| 05:26.27 | kaiden^ | i dunno for sure i just know it was doing freaky things |
| 05:26.33 | Aeyan | My CF2 is still shiny though |
| 05:26.42 | kaiden^ | http://ss.ohnoes.cc/Fostot_02.jpg shows using font size 10 in the chat box |
| 05:26.50 | kaiden^ | most of the fonts are 13-14 in size the top half is size 10 |
| 05:27.01 | kaiden^ | the 03.jpg is font size 24 .. keeps 13-14 until the top half then it's size 25 |
| 05:27.03 | kaiden^ | erm 24 |
| 05:27.04 | Kirkburn | Weird, but I don't know of any reason why ClearFont would affect that |
| 05:27.04 | kaiden^ | hehe |
| 05:27.35 | Kirkburn | The last test compare Beladona did came up with only this change to fonts.xml - http://wdn.wowinterface.com/detail/0206983/live/48 |
| 05:28.13 | [AoC]Camci | i heard they will change the druid changin form.... like one click change... like if your in cat, you have to click on catform to enter cast form and then click bear form... i heard you would be able to change from cat to bear instantly with 1 click but i cant find it on the patch notes... :/ |
| 05:28.18 | Kaelten | when do EU servers come back up? |
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| 05:30.13 | kaiden^ | [AoC]Camci, well they only put changes they made in the patch notes |
| 05:30.17 | kaiden^ | not changes they are thinking about |
| 05:30.35 | [AoC]Camci | yea i know but he said it would be in 2.2 |
| 05:30.40 | [AoC]Camci | maybe i heard wrong |
| 05:31.30 | kaiden | i somehow doubt they will be adding that |
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| 05:33.17 | Silviu- | Kaelten 3h and half |
| 05:33.28 | Kaelten | so about 1am our time? |
| 05:33.36 | Kaelten | well I'm on west coast US |
| 05:33.40 | Silowyi | wru bartender fix :( |
| 05:33.47 | kadrahil | wru |
| 05:33.49 | kadrahil | ? |
| 05:33.51 | kadrahil | :P |
| 05:33.53 | Silowyi | "where are you" |
| 05:33.54 | Silviu- | Well i`m in europe so not sure what`s the time in US :P |
| 05:34.40 | Silowyi | bartender's button paging isn't working |
| 05:35.19 | Birdemani | just after midnight here in Chicago |
| 05:36.14 | Silowyi | does anyone have a comparable equivalent to Bartender that they use? |
| 05:36.40 | neenee | bongos2 is a bar-thing too |
| 05:37.04 | Silowyi | anyone used trinity bars? it looks nice |
| 05:38.22 | Diao | so hmm |
| 05:38.23 | Olison | yeah i did after discord action bars, but i use bartender3 now |
| 05:38.25 | Diao | error with xloot? |
| 05:38.29 | Diao | if anyone else uses it |
| 05:38.33 | Antiarc | Which error? |
| 05:38.40 | Diao | something about lootbutton_onmodifiedclick i think |
| 05:38.48 | Antiarc | Yeah, update. I just committed a fix for it. |
| 05:38.50 | Diao | oh ok |
| 05:39.01 | Diao | awesome |
| 05:39.04 | theoddone33 | pitbull is kinda wonky today |
| 05:39.06 | Diao | i won't need to disable it for tomorrow's raid then |
| 05:39.58 | [AoC]Camci | u have no addons maybe :P |
| 05:40.03 | NightHawkTheSane | Nah, i have a bunch |
| 05:40.13 | Vires | You're lucky? =/ |
| 05:40.15 | NightHawkTheSane | and usually the same ones that other people have problems with :) |
| 05:40.15 | neenee | I rarely have problems too. |
| 05:40.19 | [AoC]Camci | -.- |
| 05:40.34 | [AoC]Camci | my UI always fucks up after a major patch :/ |
| 05:40.35 | theoddone33 | I'm so helpless without my estimated heals |
| 05:40.36 | NightHawkTheSane | like xloot, pitbull, etc. I didn't have a single problem with either today |
| 05:41.12 | theoddone33 | my pitbull problems are just weird |
| 05:41.18 | theoddone33 | rangecheck seems on and I can't turn it off |
| 05:41.24 | theoddone33 | estimated heals went away |
| 05:41.29 | theoddone33 | interact lines was turned on |
| 05:42.25 | Vires | theoddone33: Which mod do you use for that? Usually I just go by memory and deficit (Pitbull I can thank for knowing that much) |
| 05:42.47 | theoddone33 | dr damage + pitbull's estimated heals |
| 05:42.53 | Vires | Oh you go by the bar? ahh |
| 05:42.57 | Silowyi | Antiarc: how is sanity bags coming along? |
| 05:43.00 | neenee | Is there a 2.0 wowace update? |
| 05:43.07 | neenee | As the topic suggests? |
| 05:43.11 | Antiarc | Silowyi: I haven't had time to touch it lately :/ |
| 05:43.13 | neenee | Because I can't find it on sourceforge. |
| 05:43.16 | Silviu- | www.wowace.com/wau2 |
| 05:43.25 | Vires | Pitbull's estimate seemed off whenever I used it... couldn't read the spell rank, I guess. |
| 05:43.28 | NightHawkTheSane | neenee: there's no such thing as "wowace 2.0" |
| 05:43.33 | Silowyi | Antiarc: I will continue to wait patiently for you to solve all my inventory needs :D |
| 05:43.49 | neenee | What is 'WAU 2.0', in the topic? |
| 05:43.57 | theoddone33 | it's spot on for me |
| 05:44.02 | Silviu- | neenee look 2 lines up |
| 05:44.02 | NightHawkTheSane | wau is wau, it's not "wowace" |
| 05:44.03 | Silviu- | ;) |
| 05:44.04 | theoddone33 | it helps if you have dr.damage I think |
| 05:44.13 | neenee | Ah, let me check that. |
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| 05:47.51 | theoddone33 | AV appears to be much more competitive now |
| 05:47.54 | neenee | Hm. It does not seem to load any list of addons |
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| 05:48.22 | Silviu- | neenee press F9 |
| 05:48.31 | neenee | Ah, thanks :) |
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| 05:49.19 | Silowyi | ok |
| 05:49.27 | Silowyi | Trinity Action Bars... |
| 05:49.29 | Silowyi | lots of features |
| 05:49.45 | Silowyi | world's crappiest way of setting these features :P |
| 05:52.18 | theoddone33 | fubar got some new config dialog! |
| 05:52.46 | liquidzoo | I like Trinity, but the feature set could be implemented better. |
| 05:52.52 | Silowyi | liquid |
| 05:52.56 | Silowyi | how do you resize the bars? |
| 05:53.00 | Silowyi | like, scale them |
| 05:53.19 | Silowyi | ah! |
| 05:53.23 | liquidzoo | Click on a bar, there will be something in the bottom center |
| 05:53.31 | liquidzoo | yeah, change that to scale, etc |
| 05:54.08 | liquidzoo | I use5 or 6 action bars with my mage, and all but one of them are hidden until mouseover. I like that feature |
| 05:54.15 | Silowyi | ok |
| 05:54.21 | kaiden | is the ptr even up? i thought they took it down a few days ago |
| 05:54.28 | Silowyi | how do you dock bar 2 to the top of bar 1? or the like |
| 05:54.33 | liquidzoo | It's up for 2.2.2 I think |
| 05:54.34 | Silowyi | it's up again Kaiden, with patch 2.2.2 |
| 05:54.45 | kaiden | lol |
| 05:54.46 | kaiden | nice |
| 05:54.59 | kaiden | what are the notes thus far for 2.2.2? |
| 05:55.05 | liquidzoo | Silowyi: I just move them so they're over the top. I haven't messed with trying to get them to dock |
| 05:55.15 | Bruners | kaiden: orc shoulders! |
| 05:55.15 | liquidzoo | I know it's possible |
| 05:55.50 | kaiden | Bruners, another change to orc shoulders? |
| 05:55.59 | kaiden | what .. are they too big now? lol |
| 05:56.20 | Bruners | kaiden: ahh, 2.2.2, my bad :) |
| 05:57.18 | Wobwork | http://www.gucomics.com/comics/2007/gu_20070919.jpg |
| 05:57.24 | Wobwork | new orc shoulders |
| 05:57.53 | liquidzoo | lol |
| 05:59.57 | NeoTron | wowbug |
| 05:59.59 | NeoTron | crashed |
| 06:00.05 | NeoTron | not coming back up. sigh |
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| 06:01.08 | [AoC]Camci | 2.2.2 is just the Brewfest thingie... notes can be seen here: http://www.aoc-swc.com/modules.php?name=Forums&file=viewtopic&t=1342 |
| 06:02.35 | neenee | And more graveyards |
| 06:02.39 | neenee | That's no small thing |
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| 06:03.51 | Cartas | Well, neenee... they're in places no-one really uses that much anymore. |
| 06:03.51 | [AoC]Camci | My ALT ! |
| 06:03.51 | neenee | Everyone who levels uses them |
| 06:03.53 | Kemayo | But really, who dies? |
| 06:03.53 | neenee | Like me |
| 06:03.58 | Kemayo | Oh, you. |
| 06:03.59 | Cartas | Exactly what Kemayo said |
| 06:04.07 | Kemayo | Who dies that *counts*? |
| 06:04.09 | Cartas | You don't have that many alliance to gank you nowadays ;) |
| 06:04.10 | neenee | heh. |
| 06:04.29 | neenee | Well, I'm not restricted to level 70 content |
| 06:04.59 | Cartas | If these graveyards were in at the start of the game, it would have saved people loads of time, but now... no way near as much, to be honest. |
| 06:05.56 | [AoC]Camci | mayube a way to make it easier to lvl up for WotLK :p |
| 06:06.01 | [AoC]Camci | faster* |
| 06:06.44 | Cartas | How much time do you think it would save? 1 hour, if you died enough times from 1-60? |
| 06:06.59 | [AoC]Camci | i dont know and i dnt care :p |
| 06:07.05 | Wobwork | hehe |
| 06:07.08 | Cartas | :P |
| 06:07.14 | Wobwork | they should have respawn points like in BioShock |
| 06:07.30 | Wobwork | "Devilsaur kill you? No worries, just respawn five feet away and keep hacking!" |
| 06:07.39 | Cartas | Nothing should have respawn points like Bioshock! |
| 06:07.43 | Cartas | Not even Bioshock. |
| 06:07.47 | Wobwork | s'true =) |
| 06:08.09 | Cartas | We should go back to having no saves! |
| 06:08.17 | buu | Pssh, who dies to devilsaurs? |
| 06:08.36 | Cartas | Back in the day, they were known for just appearing on your screen the moment they were right next to you :D |
| 06:08.42 | Cartas | I think a lot of people died! |
| 06:08.43 | buu | Cartas: Ya know, I actually was recently playing a game that had no automatic saves and only a single slot autosave |
| 06:08.43 | sedatedChipmunk | dude |
| 06:08.49 | CIA-22 | 03recluse * r49801 10TextSpy/ (9 files in 4 dirs): |
| 06:08.49 | CIA-22 | TextSpy: |
| 06:08.49 | CIA-22 | - Obligatory WoW 2.2 update. (sorry took so long, was ironing out bugs of new features) |
| 06:08.49 | CIA-22 | - Post fire event implemented to give more component flexibility. |
| 06:08.49 | CIA-22 | - Retort added: whispers a message to a custom user or the user whose text fired the trigger. |
| 06:08.49 | CIA-22 | - Fixed issue where remnants of old trigger layouts were ghosting into the savedvars. |
| 06:08.50 | sedatedChipmunk | thoes things are like friggin ninjas |
| 06:09.01 | Cartas | Ninja T-Rex. |
| 06:09.03 | buu | Cartas: It was amazingly annoying. I hadnt' realized just how dependent I had become on intelligent autosaving |
| 06:09.08 | buu | Cartas: Pssh, fearable |
| 06:09.10 | sedatedChipmunk | they drop from trees or something |
| 06:09.11 | Cartas | lol |
| 06:09.17 | Wobwork | "Curse your inevitable betrayal!" |
| 06:09.21 | sedatedChipmunk | hehe |
| 06:09.31 | neenee | buu - isn't automatic saves the same as autosave? |
| 06:09.33 | Cartas | Hm, you play many games where you depend on the autosave, buu? :S |
| 06:09.48 | neenee | Yeah buu.. Cartas never dies. |
| 06:09.54 | buu | neenee: Sorry, I meant quick saves |
| 06:09.55 | sedatedChipmunk | handy for civ |
| 06:09.57 | neenee | Ah :) |
| 06:09.58 | ZealotOnAStick | Wobwork: That's a Spoils card I have. |
| 06:09.58 | Cartas | Ah, quick save... |
| 06:10.03 | buu | Cartas: Ya know, I didn't used to, but I do now. |
| 06:10.09 | buu | Cartas: Like, I depend on it saving after I beat a level |
| 06:10.09 | rob` | mine is an evil laugh! |
| 06:10.13 | Cartas | I use quicksave far too much... :$ |
| 06:10.14 | Wobwork | I saw Serenity the other day |
| 06:10.20 | Cartas | I'll quicksave, run around a corner, quicksave, etc. :| |
| 06:10.23 | Wobwork | and was gonig "awww WASH! awwww!" |
| 06:10.25 | Cartas | I must've saved BioShock billions of times. |
| 06:10.31 | buu | Cartas: I used to do exactly that |
| 06:10.34 | sedatedChipmunk | he's a leaf on th wind, yo |
| 06:10.41 | Cartas | I need to force myself out of the habit, but can't...! |
| 06:10.42 | Wobwork | Watch me float =( |
| 06:10.45 | buu | Cartas: I remember saving roughly once every 10 seconds in max payne |
| 06:10.46 | Wobwork | er soar |
| 06:10.56 | buu | Cartas: But a lot of recent games, like half life 2 or something, just do it so much better. |
| 06:10.58 | Wobwork | I've had games like that |
| 06:11.06 | Wobwork | where the save games end up bigger than the game itself |
| 06:11.06 | sedatedChipmunk | jedi knight |
| 06:11.06 | Cartas | I did the same in HL2! |
| 06:11.07 | [AoC]Camci | [08:10] <Cartas> I'll quicksave, run around a corner, quicksave, etc. |
| 06:11.13 | [AoC]Camci | thats just sad :P |
| 06:11.20 | Cartas | It's just become too much of a habit, really. |
| 06:11.24 | sedatedChipmunk | yea |
| 06:11.26 | buu | Yeah. |
| 06:11.26 | Wobwork | It's like stop motion film =P |
| 06:11.28 | sedatedChipmunk | F9 becaume a habit |
| 06:11.37 | buu | And there's a lot of games where there's a whole bunch of very hard instant death fights |
| 06:11.40 | sedatedChipmunk | in JK |
| 06:11.45 | Cartas | sedatedChipmunk: I know how we can get out of that! |
| 06:11.50 | Cartas | We should change the key settings so F9 = Autoload. |
| 06:11.55 | Wobwork | hehe |
| 06:11.55 | sedatedChipmunk | dude |
| 06:11.58 | Cartas | We'd end up loading it far too many times. |
| 06:11.59 | Wobwork | "omg DEJAVU" |
| 06:12.07 | sedatedChipmunk | and then you'd save it when you were falling in a pit |
| 06:12.11 | Cartas | Hahaha |
| 06:12.18 | [AoC]Camci | only game i spammed quick save was in Doom 3, which scared the crap out of me ^^ |
| 06:12.19 | sedatedChipmunk | you know you've done it |
| 06:12.22 | buu | sedatedChipmunk: Oh god, those games where you only had one quick save |
| 06:12.26 | Cartas | On Halo... I just used the autosaves... and it autosaved when I was falling to my death on a lift. |
| 06:12.36 | buu | sedatedChipmunk: And you'dstop paying attention for a second and saved.. |
| 06:12.54 | buu | Heh, you know what I quick save a billion times? Super ghosts and ghouls. |
| 06:12.54 | sedatedChipmunk | right; or hit save when you meant load |
| 06:13.00 | [AoC]Camci | cant wait for Halo 3 :S |
| 06:13.06 | ZealotOnAStick | I had something like that on Jedi Academy . . . |
| 06:13.12 | [AoC]Camci | sedatedChipmunk haha i remember that one |
| 06:13.14 | Cartas | What? |
| 06:13.17 | Cartas | Buu... that doesn't have saves? |
| 06:13.23 | buu | Cartas: It does on my emulator! |
| 06:13.24 | ZealotOnAStick | I royally fucked up a force jump, and went to go hit QuickLoad . . . |
| 06:13.27 | sedatedChipmunk | emulators do |
| 06:13.27 | Cartas | You sicken me. |
| 06:13.30 | buu | ^_^ |
| 06:13.31 | sedatedChipmunk | haha |
| 06:13.32 | ZealotOnAStick | but hit the wrong key, and used quicksave instead. |
| 06:13.34 | buu | I take great pride. |
| 06:13.37 | Cartas | Get out. |
| 06:13.49 | buu | ZealotOnAStick: It's interesting, if you think about it,g ames have evolved to essentially become version control systems |
| 06:14.11 | ZealotOnAStick | And my last -real- save before that one, was like 40 minutes prior. |
| 06:14.17 | sedatedChipmunk | oh of course |
| 06:14.22 | sedatedChipmunk | it always is |
| 06:14.23 | ZealotOnAStick | They really need to introduce an "undo" on quicksaves. |
| 06:14.34 | [AoC]Camci | lol |
| 06:14.38 | Silowyi | Antiarc: Getting a lot of SanityDisplayFrameRowItem errors, attempt to call global ContainerFrameItemButton_OnUpdate (a nil value)... |
| 06:14.43 | ZealotOnAStick | I want a rotating 10 savestates for quicksave. |
| 06:14.53 | sedatedChipmunk | yea, civ does that |
| 06:15.10 | sedatedChipmunk | i have 20 saves and it autosaves every turn |
| 06:15.18 | sedatedChipmunk | and cycles |
| 06:15.27 | Silowyi | here's one for you Zealot |
| 06:15.32 | ZealotOnAStick | Some very good shooters have been greatly diminished in my eyes because at some point they revert to Stupid Shooterisms. |
| 06:15.32 | sedatedChipmunk | dude |
| 06:15.51 | Silowyi | on Morrowind I had pretty much maxed out everything so I decided to go fight vivec or whatever his name was, the "God" |
| 06:16.00 | Silowyi | except he's immune to magic |
| 06:16.14 | ZealotOnAStick | Damn warehouse forcejumps in JK2. Jumping puzzles in Opposing Forces . . . |
| 06:16.24 | Silowyi | he couldn't hurt me, but I couldn't hurt him, he COULD run me out of endurance, which meant that every time he hit me I fell down. |
| 06:16.37 | ZealotOnAStick | ugh. |
| 06:16.38 | sedatedChipmunk | i never overwrite saves though--my starcraft saves went from A, B, ..., Z, AA, AB, ... all the way to like JF |
| 06:16.39 | Silowyi | hit quicksave instead of quickload |
| 06:16.43 | Cartas | Hahaha. |
| 06:16.44 | Silowyi | ruined Morrowind game |
| 06:17.01 | Cartas | It's boring if you've maxed out everything anyway, worry not, Silowyi. |
| 06:17.06 | sedatedChipmunk | neverwinter nights, too |
| 06:17.17 | ZealotOnAStick | I'm so annoyed. |
| 06:17.19 | Cartas | I only had the one save on NWN. |
| 06:17.24 | Cartas | Such a great game, that! <3 |
| 06:17.25 | ZealotOnAStick | I was like 70% through NWN2 . . . |
| 06:17.28 | sedatedChipmunk | nwn saves were frickin HUGE too |
| 06:17.32 | ZealotOnAStick | when I lost my drive array. |
| 06:17.35 | Cartas | :o |
| 06:17.41 | sedatedChipmunk | like 90MB per save |
| 06:17.46 | Cartas | You played through the expansions, sedatedChipmunk? |
| 06:17.47 | [AoC]Camci | -.- |
| 06:17.48 | sedatedChipmunk | and they compressed to like 2 |
| 06:17.48 | ZealotOnAStick | and I want to finish it, I'm just so dismayed at the prospect of starting all the damn way over. |
| 06:18.15 | sedatedChipmunk | some of them |
| 06:18.17 | [AoC]Camci | i liked nwn at first then got bored |
| 06:18.20 | Cartas | NWN: HoD? |
| 06:18.21 | sedatedChipmunk | anyway |
| 06:18.24 | [AoC]Camci | i like medival 2 |
| 06:18.27 | sedatedChipmunk | i gotta go sleep |
| 06:18.30 | [AoC]Camci | expansion is nice |
| 06:18.32 | Cartas | G'night old chap! |
| 06:18.34 | ZealotOnAStick | I also had a Steam account with HL2 on it that a friend let me use. |
| 06:18.36 | Cartas | Medieval 2: Total War? |
| 06:18.38 | Cartas | Do you mean, or? :o |
| 06:18.45 | [AoC]Camci | yea and the expansion |
| 06:18.45 | ZealotOnAStick | and I can't remember what the hell the account name is now, though I know the password. :/ |
| 06:18.50 | Cartas | I have Kingdoms. |
| 06:18.54 | sedatedChipmunk | so long, losers whom i've always hated |
| 06:18.59 | [AoC]Camci | ye, love that game :D |
| 06:19.00 | Cartas | Me and my brother played on the Grand Campaign, mulitplayer! |
| 06:19.16 | Cartas | The Danes and the Polish are slowly taking over Europe :o |
| 06:19.24 | [AoC]Camci | haha |
| 06:19.29 | ZealotOnAStick | anyone heard anything yet about what's up with Demonoid, btw? |
| 06:19.37 | sag_ich_nicht | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=1778026024&sid=1 *facepalm* |
| 06:19.51 | Cartas | Maintainence, perhaps, ZealotOnAStick? |
| 06:19.56 | Cartas | Or do you think a server has gone again? |
| 06:20.26 | Aeyan | ZealotOnAStick: http://www.pointlesswasteoftime.com/games/manifesto.html |
| 06:20.28 | Aeyan | Rule 19 =P |
| 06:21.41 | ZealotOnAStick | I like this manifesto. |
| 06:21.57 | ZealotOnAStick | Cartas: it's been non-responsive for two days. Both web site and tracker. |
| 06:22.04 | ZealotOnAStick | so, dunno. |
| 06:22.07 | Cartas | Ahhh |
| 06:22.14 | Cartas | That's what they li'l' x on my download means. |
| 06:22.47 | Aeyan | Yes, it's quite a good read. |
| 06:22.59 | Aeyan | Some demonoid info - http://www.thecircuitbox.com/demonoid/ |
| 06:23.01 | Aeyan | Not much though |
| 06:23.04 | Grum | morning |
| 06:23.08 | Aeyan | Mornin' |
| 06:23.17 | *** join/#wowace Guillotine_DC (n=Guilloti@cpe-76-167-233-83.socal.res.rr.com) |
| 06:23.50 | Grum | WTB online servers |
| 06:24.27 | Silowyi | with Trinity action bars, does anyone know how to have it page when stealthed? |
| 06:26.03 | Bruners | im getting Error during update on fubar |
| 06:26.11 | theoddone33 | love the new AV |
| 06:26.17 | CIA-22 | 03kemayo * r49802 10AuldLangSyne/Note/Note.lua: |
| 06:26.17 | CIA-22 | AuldLangSyne: |
| 06:26.17 | CIA-22 | -Note: Fix menu handler (typo) |
| 06:26.20 | theoddone33 | it's an entirely different battleground |
| 06:26.22 | ennuilg | Cartas: rumours that the CRIA have had Demonoid shut down abound. |
| 06:26.36 | ennuilg | http://torrentfreak.com/demonoid-shut-down-by-cria-070925/ |
| 06:26.58 | Cartas | I don't want baseless rumours, old chap! |
| 06:27.27 | ennuilg | Then: a) read the link, and b) don't call me old, and c) don't call me a chap! ;-) |
| 06:27.33 | Grum | Bruners: just do it again :) |
| 06:27.59 | Cartas | I read the link... it's basically saying, 'We have no idea what happened, but it's possible the CRIA shut it down.' |
| 06:28.00 | Grum | ennuilg: l2link http://torrentfreak.com/demonoid-shut-down-by-cria-070925/ |
| 06:28.12 | Grum | silly torrent users ^^ |
| 06:28.20 | *** join/#wowace Funkeh` (n=funkydud@host81-157-50-199.range81-157.btcentralplus.com) |
| 06:28.22 | Cartas | Logically speaking, you could also say, 'We have no idea what happened, but it's possible meteor hit the servers.' :| |
| 06:28.28 | Cartas | possible a* |
| 06:28.48 | vhaarr | wtb 11:00 |
| 06:28.56 | ennuilg | Grum: How is your link any different to mine? |
| 06:29.05 | Grum | somehow yours didn't work here |
| 06:29.20 | rob` | woah |
| 06:29.21 | *** join/#wowace [AoC]Camci (i=Camci@c-9332e353.572-1-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) |
| 06:29.21 | Cartas | Works for me :o |
| 06:29.24 | Grum | get a nice page not found .. |
| 06:29.33 | Grum | oh .. prolly because i'm against torrents ^^ |
| 06:29.34 | NightHawkTheSane | probably just a glitch, as they're the same url |
| 06:29.38 | ennuilg | l2click :-) |
| 06:29.39 | rob` | i finished downloading babylon 5 from demonoid yesterday, just in the nick of time it would appear |
| 06:29.52 | Cartas | I'm still downloading stuff. |
| 06:30.03 | Cartas | Nicer speeds than yest., too! |
| 06:30.03 | Aeyan | Apparently TorrentFreak is the source of those rumors |
| 06:30.11 | NightHawkTheSane | meh, its not as if there arn't dozens of other torrent sights |
| 06:30.16 | *** join/#wowace orionshock (n=chatzill@ip68-225-195-110.ph.ph.cox.net) |
| 06:30.22 | ennuilg | Cartas: Sorry I can't give you any more then... I'm still not a chap. |
| 06:30.35 | *** join/#wowace Guilly_OMG (n=Guilloti@cpe-76-167-233-83.socal.res.rr.com) |
| 06:30.37 | Cartas | Giving me what, sorry? |
| 06:30.42 | ennuilg | Information. |
| 06:30.52 | Cartas | You haven't given me any information! :P |
| 06:30.57 | Cartas | Why is that 'more' there? :D |
| 06:31.18 | ennuilg | Right. Fair enough. Won't bother trying to help in future. |
| 06:31.19 | [AoC]Camci | why i cant find freenode at mircs network list? :/ |
| 06:31.40 | CIA-22 | 03broliant * r49803 10FuBar_RecountFu/ (FuBar_RecountFu.toc changelog.txt): FuBar_RecountFu: Updated TOC file "Interface" value to 20200 for the release of the 2.2 client patch. |
| 06:31.54 | NightHawkTheSane | [AoC]Camci: just add it? |
| 06:32.08 | Cartas | ennuilg: You can see that this site, itself clearly stating so, 'has no idea what happened, but X says its possible that Y.' |
| 06:32.12 | CIA-22 | 03broliant * r49804 10FuBar_ConvergeFu/ (FuBar_ConvergeFu.toc changelog.txt): FuBar_ConvergeFu: Updated TOC file "Interface" value to 20200 for the release of the 2.2 client patch. |
| 06:32.29 | ennuilg | I don't really care anymore Cartas. Go on with your life being the cocksure idiot that you are. |
| 06:32.34 | [AoC]Camci | i use QuakeNet too, so im trying to make so i connect on both on start up. but when i added freenode it didnt work |
| 06:32.39 | Cartas | :o No need to get offensive... :S |
| 06:33.01 | Grum | [AoC]Camci: what irc-client? mIRC likely? :D |
| 06:33.05 | Cartas | You'll have to add it yourself, [AoC]Camci! :) |
| 06:33.06 | [AoC]Camci | yus |
| 06:33.10 | NightHawkTheSane | I don't remember if mirc handles connect-on-startup properly |
| 06:33.15 | Grum | it doesnt |
| 06:33.17 | Grum | you have to do that manually |
| 06:33.24 | NightHawkTheSane | get a real client like x-chat or irssi ;) |
| 06:33.24 | Cartas | I used to add /join into the perform. |
| 06:33.30 | Grum | yup |
| 06:33.33 | [AoC]Camci | err... |
| 06:33.35 | [AoC]Camci | let me try again then |
| 06:33.46 | Cartas | You could get NNS, [AoC]Camci! |
| 06:33.52 | *** join/#wowace Ani| (n=ani@86.56.51.7) |
| 06:33.53 | [AoC]Camci | NNS - ? |
| 06:33.54 | CIA-22 | 03funkydude * r49805 10ag_UnitFrames/ (. ag_UnitClass.lua): ag_UnitFrames: possible bugfix |
| 06:34.07 | mykx | no name script |
| 06:34.53 | *** join/#wowace [AoC]Camci (i=Camci@c-9332e353.572-1-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) |
| 06:34.59 | [AoC]Camci | O.o |
| 06:35.00 | [AoC]Camci | worked ! |
| 06:35.01 | orionshock | Jello everyone |
| 06:35.07 | [AoC]Camci | gonna try again to be sure |
| 06:35.24 | NightHawkTheSane | "I am so sorry. I just finished a -lovely- brunch." "Impudence." "No, tuna." |
| 06:36.06 | Grum | mykx: lol .. you gotto be kidding .. |
| 06:36.11 | Grum | NNS is such a horror |
| 06:36.19 | Cartas | Oh, why's that? :$ |
| 06:36.20 | orionshock | so item rack is borked? |
| 06:36.27 | *** join/#wowace [AoC]Camci (i=Camci@c-9332e353.572-1-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) |
| 06:36.31 | [AoC]Camci | >.< |
| 06:36.36 | Grum | didn't work? |
| 06:36.40 | ZealotOnAStick | there's an easy easy fix, and gello released 1.992 with that fix. |
| 06:36.41 | NightHawkTheSane | itemrack was working fine for me today? |
| 06:36.42 | rob` | I'm just not going to even log into wow until saturday >_< |
| 06:36.46 | [AoC]Camci | when i disconnected and connected it worked |
| 06:36.49 | Grum | [AoC]Camci: http://ace.pastey.net/74420 <-- try that ;) |
| 06:36.52 | [AoC]Camci | but this time i closed |
| 06:37.01 | Grum | but that doesnt solve 'autojoining channels' |
| 06:37.01 | [AoC]Camci | and opened and it only connected to QuakeNet |
| 06:37.04 | [AoC]Camci | and not to this one |
| 06:37.15 | Grum | i join 9 servers on startup |
| 06:37.22 | Grum | or actually ... 9 proxies |
| 06:37.27 | mykx | Grum: NNS works flawlessly for me ? |
| 06:37.33 | [AoC]Camci | and when i manually connect to this one the quakenet one closes and freenode wont open :( |
| 06:37.54 | Grum | mykx: probably .. but it's spammy by default .. and colors .. iew :D |
| 06:38.02 | mykx | add /server -m instead of /server camci |
| 06:38.09 | mykx | will open it in a new window |
| 06:38.23 | [AoC]Camci | i just type /server -m ? |
| 06:38.40 | Cartas | It's spammy, Grum? How so? :D |
| 06:38.40 | mykx | /server -m irc.freenode.org -j #wowace |
| 06:39.01 | kadrahil | i just got two shotted by a druid in 4/5 s2 arena O_o |
| 06:39.04 | kadrahil | at full health |
| 06:39.08 | *** join/#wowace Camci (i=Camci@c-9332e353.572-1-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) |
| 06:39.16 | [AoC]Camci | heh... |
| 06:39.16 | kadrahil | critted me in stealth and one moonfire, dead |
| 06:39.30 | kadrahil | i only have 8.5k hp :( |
| 06:39.49 | Grum | afk -> work |
| 06:39.54 | *** part/#wowace Camci (i=Camci@c-9332e353.572-1-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) |
| 06:40.00 | *** part/#wowace [AoC]Camci (i=Camci@c-9332e353.572-1-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) |
| 06:40.10 | *** join/#wowace [AoC]Camci (i=Camci@c-9332e353.572-1-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) |
| 06:43.11 | Cartas | So, it's working fine now, [AoC]Camci? :) |
| 06:43.31 | neenee | Well, time to try HL2:Episode One |
| 06:43.36 | [AoC]Camci | gonna try... |
| 06:44.42 | *** join/#wowace [AoC]Camci (i=Camci@c-9332e353.572-1-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) |
| 06:44.49 | [AoC]Camci | :( |
| 06:44.50 | *** join/#wowace eXemplar (n=nnscript@124-171-184-217.dyn.iinet.net.au) |
| 06:45.15 | Cartas | Hm! |
| 06:46.09 | [AoC]Camci | so there is no way you can fix so you join 2 servers at startup with mIRC ? |
| 06:46.35 | orionshock | ick one bank not updated yet :( |
| 06:46.36 | Cartas | EIther go for NNS... orr... |
| 06:46.37 | Cartas | Hm |
| 06:46.43 | *** join/#wowace Guillotine_DC (n=Guilloti@cpe-76-167-233-83.socal.res.rr.com) |
| 06:46.46 | Cartas | Tools -> Options -> Connect: Options |
| 06:46.48 | Vires | DrDamage cannot find library instance of SpecialEvents-Aura-2.0 ... I have 3.0 as standalone =/ |
| 06:46.51 | mykx | [AoC]Camci: http://ace.pastey.net/74422 |
| 06:46.53 | *** join/#wowace Nargiddley (n=narg@203-97-236-74.cable.telstraclear.net) |
| 06:47.10 | Vires | /server -m irc.server.com |
| 06:47.15 | orionshock | 2.0 =/= 3.0 Vires |
| 06:47.18 | Cartas | Perform -> Tick the top box -> All Networks -> <Command to connect to Freenode> |
| 06:47.22 | Cartas | I guess that would work :o |
| 06:47.23 | Vires | Yeah... so where's 2.0? =\ |
| 06:47.32 | orionshock | still on the files site |
| 06:47.34 | [AoC]Camci | wait ill try what mykx showed me :) |
| 06:47.44 | orionshock | use wau and update with out externals & auto dep download |
| 06:48.15 | mykx | do you know where to put the script camci? |
| 06:48.40 | [AoC]Camci | in script editor under remote? |
| 06:48.49 | mykx | yeah |
| 06:48.52 | *** join/#wowace evl (n=fuckoff@unaffiliated/evl) |
| 06:48.57 | [AoC]Camci | and where do i find this "perform" ? |
| 06:49.05 | mykx | hit alt + o and look for it |
| 06:49.15 | mykx | connect - options - perform |
| 06:49.29 | [AoC]Camci | oh ok, let me just add the script first |
| 06:49.56 | Cartas | Where's this 'remote' script editor thing? |
| 06:50.01 | mykx | alt + r |
| 06:50.11 | Cartas | :o |
| 06:50.17 | mykx | it's the only scripting I know haha |
| 06:50.39 | [AoC]Camci | ok so what do i do at perform? :P |
| 06:50.52 | mykx | add your server and then what channels you want to join etc |
| 06:51.18 | [AoC]Camci | adding server as in "irc.freenode.org" is enough ? |
| 06:51.30 | mykx | yeah |
| 06:51.34 | [AoC]Camci | ok will try :) |
| 06:51.38 | mykx | but it's gotta be in the "network" dropdown |
| 06:52.17 | [AoC]Camci | ok i dont get it |
| 06:52.20 | [AoC]Camci | i cant add servers ? |
| 06:52.23 | helget | you can also specify -j with /server for channels to join, seperated with a comma I think: /server -m server -j #foo,#bar,#etc |
| 06:52.35 | mykx | yeah you can |
| 06:52.44 | [AoC]Camci | ok so how do i add freenode ? |
| 06:53.00 | mykx | Connect - Servers |
| 06:53.01 | Cartas | Wow, mIRC sure is a pain to get something simple like that working :( |
| 06:53.08 | yssaril | orionshock: ping |
| 06:53.08 | mykx | If it's not on the list you have to add it |
| 06:53.14 | [AoC]Camci | ooh |
| 06:53.14 | orionshock | yssaril: pong |
| 06:53.17 | [AoC]Camci | ok i did not see that one :D |
| 06:53.20 | mykx | :) |
| 06:53.20 | [AoC]Camci | will try |
| 06:53.28 | Cartas | It would've been much simpler to just get NNS! :D |
| 06:53.31 | yssaril | orionshock: is your av report macro working yet? |
| 06:53.35 | mykx | lol true that Cartas |
| 06:53.37 | orionshock | ya |
| 06:53.42 | [AoC]Camci | never heard of nns dunno what it does :P |
| 06:53.45 | yssaril | orionshock: gimme :) |
| 06:53.54 | mykx | it has menus for all the stuff you're doing manually |
| 06:54.17 | orionshock | http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=8679.msg142091#msg142091 |
| 06:54.19 | *** join/#wowace kebinusan_ (n=kevin@71-89-139-35.dhcp.aldl.mi.charter.com) |
| 06:55.12 | [AoC]Camci | aha |
| 06:55.14 | [AoC]Camci | after i add server |
| 06:55.18 | [AoC]Camci | i do the thing at perform ? |
| 06:55.21 | mykx | exactly |
| 06:55.30 | [AoC]Camci | lets try :D |
| 06:56.24 | Silowyi | hah, wow |
| 06:56.28 | kadrahil | so what's the OP class of the week now that locks are kind of nerfed? |
| 06:56.32 | Silowyi | I just bound bear form to mouse scroll down |
| 06:56.38 | Silowyi | and cat form toe mouse scroll up |
| 06:56.50 | Silowyi | Kadrahil: still locks, all their set bonuses got buffed |
| 06:57.05 | kadrahil | heh |
| 06:57.13 | kadrahil | i'm waiting for when hunters are OP |
| 06:57.45 | mykx | they talked about giving hunters ranged MS.. you'll get your OP soon enough |
| 06:57.48 | Olison | :( |
| 06:57.54 | Cartas | Hunters and Warlocks - OP classes of the century. |
| 06:58.04 | buu | Pesky warlocks. |
| 06:58.10 | buu | Always being played by the best players. |
| 06:58.53 | Silowyi | what I'm interested in seeing is how they address feral arena viability |
| 06:59.04 | buu | WITH A STICK WITH NAILS IN IT. |
| 06:59.24 | Silowyi | there are so many ways they could mess that up so badly |
| 07:00.14 | Cartas | Silowyi: Protection warrior viability should come first! |
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| 07:00.45 | [AoC]Camci | okey... |
| 07:01.00 | Tinyboom | I say remove the damage co-efficent nerf from mages, that should help:) |
| 07:01.13 | Silowyi | Cartas: I realize it probably doesn't make sense, after all boomkin and resto druids are great in 2v2 and 3v3. |
| 07:01.43 | kebinusan_ | Dont worry Im sure everyone will be unhappy with the class changes in 2.3 |
| 07:01.45 | buu | Boomkin in 2v2?! |
| 07:01.57 | buu | Kebinusan: I just want a dot buff =[ |
| 07:02.02 | Silowyi | Cartas: And feral druids already have a tanking and farming spec rolled into one, a zero downtime farming spec no less... and can do hunter level dps/tanking with just a gear switch... |
| 07:02.07 | buu | Dots need to crit. It's obvious. |
| 07:02.15 | LaricWork | offtopic but anyone knows sed good? |
| 07:02.24 | buu | LaricWork: Use perl, less effort. |
| 07:02.30 | Silowyi | Cartas: so there is no reason we should have any improvements to feral viability in pvp... but Blizzard has said they are coming :) |
| 07:02.31 | Tinyboom | critting dots....u insane:pø |
| 07:02.35 | Cartas | :( |
| 07:02.44 | Cartas | Any for the prot warriors? :o |
| 07:02.51 | buu | Tinyboom: Well, the thing is, all of the lame game gear has like.. +60 damage and +50 crit.. which screws dotlocks |
| 07:03.01 | buu | Heh.. 'lame game'.. meant 'late game'.. |
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| 07:03.29 | LaricWork | buu k.. so how do I search replace in a bunch of files with perl that does like replace any occurance of ' with '+lf unless it is ?' ?? |
| 07:03.39 | Silowyi | Buu: You can find pieces that don't have crit, and instead of regen or spell penetration, though granted, it gets progressively harder to find the deeper in you are |
| 07:03.41 | Tinyboom | true, but still.... critting dots, as locks aren't op'ed enough already:p |
| 07:04.00 | buu | Tinyboom: Well, it's solely an in class balance, to reduce the dominance of 21/40 |
| 07:04.30 | buu | LaricWork: Replace single quote with singlequote plus el ef, unless it is a single quote preceded by a question mark? |
| 07:04.33 | Tinyboom | buu: then all other classes need more resist, to even it out.... |
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| 07:04.46 | CIA-22 | 03alar * r49806 10!AlarLib/!AlarLib.toc: !AlarLib Wow Version 2.2 |
| 07:05.09 | LaricWork | buut almost but it is lf as in linefeed |
| 07:05.11 | buu | Tinyboom: Well, I'm ignoring pvp |
| 07:05.24 | CIA-22 | 03alar * r49807 10AlarTTFrame/AlarTTFrame.toc: AlarTTFrame Wow Version 2.2 |
| 07:05.29 | buu | Tinyboom: Because pvp in a mmorpg is roflame anyway |
| 07:05.47 | NightHawkTheSane | "Syler!" "Thank you, sir." "I expect to be put in your will." "Already in it, sir." "Okay, thats.. weird." |
| 07:05.50 | Silowyi | LabricWork: Can you phrase the desired change in the form of an perl regexp? |
| 07:05.58 | mykx | I say the same thing buu but it's only because I suck at arena |
| 07:06.16 | Tinyboom | buu: as a mage i feel more like glass than a glass cannon atm... I should be top dps, it's what my class is made for:p but ye, pvp is boorin... and cba to do arena's |
| 07:06.35 | LaricWork | Silowyi I dont know regexp that well :) thats the problem. I guess I can try and find out |
| 07:06.42 | buu | Tinyboom: Yeah, I feel kind of sorry for mages, if they didn't have poly nobody would want them. |
| 07:07.12 | Tinyboom | buu: almost true:p |
| 07:07.24 | buu | LaricWork: perl -pi -e's/0(?<!\?)\x27/\x27\n/g' |
| 07:07.46 | buu | LaricWork: Your description is a little confusing. |
| 07:07.52 | NightHawkTheSane | can't you just use \n for line feed? |
| 07:08.20 | buu | NightHawkTheSane: Hrm? |
| 07:08.22 | NightHawkTheSane | oh wait, you are? What's \x27? |
| 07:08.22 | ennuilg | We bring water and a 40 int buff too! Although, I guess, we could just stand outside raid instances to deliver that... |
| 07:08.31 | buu | NightHawkTheSane: A single quote. |
| 07:08.33 | buu | ennuilg: Yeah =/ |
| 07:08.43 | NightHawkTheSane | er, why not just use a single quote character? |
| 07:08.47 | Tinyboom | bah! typical that i have to go to work@11.00, right when the servers come back up... I wanna feel the post patch mayhem:p |
| 07:08.49 | buu | NightHawkTheSane: Think about it. |
| 07:09.03 | NightHawkTheSane | buu: if you enclose it in double quotes single quotes parse fine. |
| 07:09.03 | buu | ennuilg: Alhtough honestly, warlocks basically do the same thing, with slightly less cc. |
| 07:09.20 | Silowyi | NightHawkTheSane: If you enclose it in double quotes most shells will attempt to glob it |
| 07:09.40 | NightHawkTheSane | ah, true. |
| 07:09.42 | CIA-22 | 03jerry 07jerry * r49808 10Grid/Grid/ (Grid.toc GridFrame.lua GridLocale-deDE.lua): Grid: (branch) Merge changes made on trunk. |
| 07:09.45 | Kebinusan | oh come now, you know 2.3 will be nerf city |
| 07:09.47 | NightHawkTheSane | i usually don't run perl on the shell like that |
| 07:09.53 | NightHawkTheSane | i'd just slap it in a .pl file |
| 07:09.54 | buu | I'm sorry. |
| 07:09.55 | ennuilg | Well, at the moment none of my locks beat me on damage - it's the rogues who top our meters, and they bring no other utility to the raids, so I'm happy for them to be there. |
| 07:09.59 | LaricWork | buu "perl -pi -e's/0(?<!\?)\x27/\x27\n/g'" what file does that run on? |
| 07:10.02 | Silowyi | Also I think escaping it from the shell you'd have to double escape. |
| 07:10.11 | buu | LaricWork: Include filenames at the end. |
| 07:10.31 | LaricWork | ah nice.. will test it now :) |
| 07:10.33 | buu | ennuilg: Heh, I haven't seen a mage top it for a while. |
| 07:10.33 | LaricWork | thanks |
| 07:10.41 | Fisker- | what\s jerry doing with mah grid |
| 07:10.43 | buu | ennuilg: Lots of stupid locks out there though. |
| 07:11.02 | Silowyi | hmm |
| 07:11.06 | buu | ennuilg: I'm losing to rogues at the moment.. I just can't figure out how to get more dps =[. |
| 07:11.07 | Silowyi | there's a Plain Letter in the auction house |
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| 07:11.15 | Silowyi | it's Bind on Pickup... and in the auction house |
| 07:11.25 | Tinyboom | Silowyi: lol |
| 07:11.39 | sylvanaar | I have one in my bag |
| 07:11.45 | sylvanaar | WTF is it |
| 07:11.53 | ennuilg | buu: Me neither... I beat our top rogue in heroics last night, but can't catch him in raids once the Shaman get to him. |
| 07:11.56 | buu | CAn you read it? |
| 07:12.00 | sylvanaar | NO! |
| 07:12.06 | buu | ennuilg: How much of a stacked group do you get? |
| 07:12.22 | buu | ennuilg: You might get some win now that haste is getting nerfed.. |
| 07:12.34 | sylvanaar | lol its a letter i cant even read rofl |
| 07:12.38 | Fisker- | they must not have made plain letters bop |
| 07:12.40 | Fisker- | or i am mad |
| 07:13.01 | ennuilg | My group tends to be pretty good, SP and ES... But so is his for melee. |
| 07:13.03 | Silowyi | "LF Enchanter 1h weapon" |
| 07:13.09 | Silowyi | that's a bit vague... |
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| 07:13.19 | mykx | get a boomkin ennuilg :P |
| 07:13.49 | buu | ennuilg: What tier gear are you both in? |
| 07:14.02 | ennuilg | !c eu bloodhoof ennui |
| 07:14.05 | ThraeBot | ennuilg: Ennui, Level 70 Human Mage (10/48/3). 6173 HP; 8606 Mana; 165 mana regen; 4 mp5; 309 spell crit; 73 spell hit; 940 +spell dmg; 222 arcane dmg (1162); 271 fire dmg (1211); 5.26% dodge; 31 resilience;[[ TBR: 1162 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/2zxpnq ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/2jbzyb ][ Updated: Wed Sep 26 03:28:46 2007 EST ]] |
| 07:14.10 | ennuilg | !c eu bloodhoof demiise |
| 07:14.12 | ThraeBot | ennuilg: Demiise, Level 70 Night Elf Rogue (19/42/0). 8924 HP; 3636 Armour; 1752 AP; 379.800 Melee DPS; 23.73% melee crit; 275 melee hit; 28.61% dodge; 12 resilience; 10 nature resist (+10); +25 all resists (+10 nature);[[ TBR: 1289 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/2e562y ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/39et7x ][ Updated: Wed Sep 26 03:28:53 2007 EST ]] |
| 07:14.27 | ZealotOnAStick | our guild leader is a rogue . . . so he intentionally stages the rogues being high on the meters by swapping out shamans for multiple bloodlusts. |
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| 07:14.48 | Antiarc | Well, rogues tend to benefit the most from haste, due to AR+BF+DST+double Mongoose |
| 07:14.53 | buu | I wonder what wow would be like if every "tier" followed the kara model.. so you have a 10 man insdtance with a 5-6 bosses, then a couple of 25 man solo bosses, then a 10man, and so on |
| 07:14.55 | Antiarc | Due to the way haste scales |
| 07:14.59 | Silowyi | ZealotOnAStick: What's the cooldown on bloodlust? |
| 07:15.00 | ZealotOnAStick | Also, for like the last 6 weeks, we've had jack all of dps caster loot dropping. |
| 07:15.01 | buu | Antiarc: Well, yeah, and it's getting nerfed |
| 07:15.08 | buu | Fuckers. |
| 07:15.10 | Antiarc | Won't change the relative standings though. |
| 07:15.18 | buu | Antiarc: Uh, why wouldn't it? |
| 07:15.23 | ZealotOnAStick | it's . . .10 minutes I think? Or 6? One of the two. |
| 07:15.25 | buu | Rogue gets nerfed, caster gets buffed |
| 07:15.34 | buu | Seems like it might change things. |
| 07:15.51 | orionshock | BloodLust is 10 |
| 07:15.51 | Silowyi | so I got #1 DPS on Lurker as a feral druid |
| 07:16.00 | ZealotOnAStick | Bloodlust is one of the few real serious major boosts to me as an affliction lock, because it's the only thing that reduces GCD. |
| 07:16.03 | Silowyi | and I was told "well yeah that's cause your bleeds tick while he's underwater and crap |
| 07:16.08 | buu | ZealotOnAStick: Oh but it doesn't. |
| 07:16.09 | orionshock | Silowyi: either your over geared for the fight or they all suck |
| 07:16.10 | Antiarc | Because rogues have so many haste effects to stack |
| 07:16.16 | buu | Silowyi: I don't think that's true.. |
| 07:16.18 | Silowyi | then I got #1 DPS on Void Reaver... and our rogues had no answer. |
| 07:16.27 | Antiarc | And the multiplicative nature of haste scaling tends to favor that |
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| 07:16.41 | Silowyi | orionshock: our #1 DPS rogue has Emerald Ripper, so yeah... |
| 07:16.44 | ennuilg | I'm hoping the haste changes will make a difference, but, to be honest, I'm happy with mages at the moment... (Sure, the 10% tax could/should go, but otherwise...) |
| 07:16.46 | ZealotOnAStick | buu: Bloodlust/Heroism does reduce GCD, and it's the -only- effect that does. |
| 07:16.52 | Silowyi | orionshock: our rogues average, collectively, something like 30% attendance |
| 07:16.53 | [AoC]Camci | how in the gods name do i move the damn mirc channel bars? :X |
| 07:16.58 | buu | Antiarc: Well, and rogues have no limit to how high haste can scale them. |
| 07:17.06 | buu | ZealotOnAStick: The latest research I saw said that it doesn't. |
| 07:17.07 | orionshock | ya .. so them sucking sounds about right :D |
| 07:17.13 | Antiarc | Correct |
| 07:17.17 | ZealotOnAStick | camci: ditch MIRC and get Visual IRC |
| 07:17.27 | orionshock | Silowyi: how bad did you beat them? |
| 07:17.27 | Silowyi | if a feral druid doesn't have #1, its a hunter or a warlock |
| 07:17.32 | mykx | actually ennuilg they were talking about reverting that 10% thing for mages |
| 07:17.39 | ZealotOnAStick | buu: from when? Because I know last night on Reliquary of souls, it bloody well did. |
| 07:17.56 | Tinyboom | mykx: fingers crossed for that:p |
| 07:18.15 | Silowyi | we have two really good hunters that capitalized on the stupid bm pet scorpid poison crap to get obscene dps out of their pets |
| 07:18.21 | mykx | I don't play a mage but yeah there's no need for that nerf |
| 07:18.44 | Silowyi | ARKJAKLWLJkejrlke |
| 07:18.56 | ZealotOnAStick | Heh. Last night's Family Guy. "Red October, Shtanding By." |
| 07:19.09 | Silowyi | I meant to port to Exodar, instead I took a flight path halfway across the continent |
| 07:19.14 | orionshock | im still looking for a coder to make an addon pick all my dialys up AND turn them in.. 50$-USD |
| 07:19.48 | Silowyi | orionshock: do you mean that you just hail the guy and it automatically grabs the quest, then when you're done hail him again and it turns it in? |
| 07:20.18 | orionshock | yes |
| 07:20.25 | Kebinusan | bleh sound in wow under wine sucks now |
| 07:20.46 | ennuilg | mykx: Would be good to see - if for no other reason than it feels out of character - no other class has a similar nerf. If mages were so badly overbalanced, then Blizzard should have found a better way of dealing with it. (Still, that's Blizzard through and through these days - hunter/warlock pets disappearing in flight, for instance, rather than finding another, more believable solution to the aggroing on the ground issue.) |
| 07:20.56 | Silowyi | kebin: s/under wine// |
| 07:21.17 | Kebinusan | Silowyi, heh, but for comparative purposes its much worse now |
| 07:21.25 | Antiarc | ennuilg: Weapon normalization slaughtered rogue and warrior damage output. |
| 07:21.30 | Antiarc | Absolutely killed it. |
| 07:21.41 | Antiarc | I mean, yeah, it was needed |
| 07:21.45 | Antiarc | But there was a similar nerf. ;) |
| 07:21.47 | Silowyi | Antiarc: for well geared rogues, not for undergeared rogues |
| 07:22.04 | Antiarc | Silowyi: For any rogue with a 2.7 non-dagger/2.0 dagger, really |
| 07:22.10 | Antiarc | There's a reason the Shanker was so godly for so lon |
| 07:22.12 | Antiarc | long* |
| 07:22.23 | Silowyi | true |
| 07:22.29 | ennuilg | Antiarc: I guess, but it nerfed weapon skills used by multiple classes. The damage tax didn't nerf anyone elses spells but our own. |
| 07:22.29 | Silowyi | that was kind of the point though wasn't it? |
| 07:22.36 | Silowyi | making Shanker worse than MC weapons |
| 07:23.00 | sylvanaar | i pick herbs ftw now - just wanted you all to know |
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| 07:23.30 | Silowyi | hehe major spellpower to ring enchant change was great |
| 07:23.47 | ZealotOnAStick | speaking of fixes, I'm so loving the Seed of Corruption fix. |
| 07:23.53 | Silowyi | went from 368 to 375 enchanting on my mage in 7 combines |
| 07:24.07 | Silowyi | ZOAS: what did they fix? |
| 07:24.18 | ZealotOnAStick | Our Priest Class Leader tonight kept saying "They had to have nerfed this trash" and we kept saying "No, we're simply doing the damage we should have been all along." |
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| 07:24.32 | ZealotOnAStick | Corpses counted against the AoE damage cap. |
| 07:24.33 | Diao | wait |
| 07:24.35 | Diao | combines? |
| 07:24.38 | ZealotOnAStick | So in , say, Hyjal . . . |
| 07:24.41 | Diao | and what did they change |
| 07:25.02 | ZealotOnAStick | Seed would get progressively crappier the more Scourge corpses piled up. |
| 07:25.24 | ZealotOnAStick | Corpses don't (incorrectly) count against that now, only living mobs. |
| 07:25.41 | Diao | wait did they nerf the number of mats needed for enchants to rings o_O |
| 07:25.45 | Antiarc | yes |
| 07:25.47 | ZealotOnAStick | so Seed damage doesn't decline wave after wave. |
| 07:25.48 | Silowyi | Diao: it went from 8 GPE 8 LPS to 2 GPE 2 LPS |
| 07:26.04 | Diao | ah |
| 07:26.12 | Silowyi | 2 GPE 2 LPS as a lvl 370 enchant... |
| 07:26.17 | Silowyi | I'm all over that |
| 07:26.21 | mort | so the waves are even easier now |
| 07:26.47 | Diao | did they do it for all the ring enchants? |
| 07:27.07 | CIA-22 | 03morgalm * r49809 10MorgDKP/ (Hooks.lua MorgDKP.toc): |
| 07:27.07 | CIA-22 | MorgDKP: |
| 07:27.07 | CIA-22 | - TOC 2.2.0 |
| 07:27.07 | CIA-22 | - updated hooking for 2.2 |
| 07:27.36 | Tinyboom | did any us realms get the voip at all yesterday? |
| 07:27.44 | Silowyi | Diao: I believe so |
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| 07:27.57 | Antiarc | Striking was reduced in mats |
| 07:28.40 | Fisker- | i want stroking rawr |
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| 07:29.10 | Fisker- | i like retards |
| 07:29.19 | Fisker- | "zomg shoulder fix is just a string in the source-code" |
| 07:29.33 | Fisker- | Ok, give me a code-snippet of the source code, oh don't have any? shut up. |
| 07:29.34 | [AoC]Camci | is there any way to stop mirc options pop up at start? :/ |
| 07:30.11 | mort | connect - options - popup connect dialog at startup |
| 07:30.15 | Kebinusan | I dont think any did, there was something posted about enabled shortly after the patch on select realms then cross your fingers |
| 07:30.29 | ggilbert | "We have recently revised our schedule for the activation of voice chat following the patch release. On patch day, all realms will launch with voice chat disabled. " |
| 07:30.35 | Silowyi | Fisker-: given that they messed up all the shoulders at once, it does tend to suggest there is a single, unified place where the shoulder scale is set. |
| 07:30.41 | [AoC]Camci | okey last try :p |
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| 07:31.06 | Silowyi | Fisker-: But as to the simplicity/complexity of the fix, and what else it might impact, I wouldn't venture to guess. |
| 07:31.07 | [AoC]Camci | finally! |
| 07:31.41 | Silowyi | Back in Horizons, they had the models for dragons too large to do anything with. |
| 07:31.47 | [AoC]Camci | is there an addon that counts the moustclicking ingame? :P |
| 07:31.56 | Silowyi | so they gave us "Khutit form" which was a humanoid dragon form that nerfed your stats by like 1/2 |
| 07:31.56 | [AoC]Camci | and no im not a clicker |
| 07:31.57 | Kebinusan | hey, if they can do the silly certain paladin spec gives you a black war kodo, I dont believe anything is safe |
| 07:32.13 | orionshock | im still looking for a coder to make an addon to auto-magically pick all my dailys up AND turn them in.. 50$-USD by PayPal |
| 07:32.38 | ennuilg | Just send me your login and password and I'll get right on that orionshock. |
| 07:32.44 | orionshock | lol |
| 07:32.46 | Silowyi | but a bunch of gamers discovered you could just use a /setscale command with yourself targetted to change your size anywhere from .05 to 5.0... and they never fixed the issue, because that command existed. |
| 07:32.46 | Kebinusan | is that even possible anymore? |
| 07:33.13 | Kebinusan | and if yes, cant you just addem to Automaton |
| 07:33.18 | Silowyi | Kebinusan: I already have most of my daily quests set to auto-turn in using an old BG auto-turnin mod |
| 07:33.43 | Silowyi | Kebinusan: But I couldn't get auto-accept to work with that mod at least |
| 07:34.40 | orionshock | Kebinusan: yes it's posibal but because they are not repeatable it dosn't work too well. i can get an addon to pick up half of them but not turn them in |
| 07:34.59 | orionshock | you can get automation to turn them in.. but not pick em up.. i thinik |
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| 07:38.46 | Silowyi | they really should let you ride [Farmer's Broom] |
| 07:39.12 | orionshock | lol |
| 07:39.15 | orionshock | or use it |
| 07:39.46 | kandarz | do I have to do anything special to be able to drag a frame, make it moveable? I can't figure out what to do for the life of me |
| 07:39.47 | Jaxon | So my OSX WoW client is bugging out. |
| 07:39.47 | Silowyi | I wonder if I tried to link something like 6[Khadgar's Cape of Wonder] if people in here would try and click it. |
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| 07:40.05 | orionshock | they would |
| 07:40.06 | liquidzoo | lol |
| 07:40.08 | ennuilg | Ooh - black item! |
| 07:40.14 | yssaril | orionshock: you just want something that when you talk to the guy it will accept the quest and when you finish it and talk to him again it will complete it? |
| 07:40.24 | orionshock | yssaril: yes |
| 07:40.42 | Silowyi | ennuilg: it works better if you have a client that can see irc chat colors |
| 07:40.56 | orionshock | check the automation thread for what i use now.. it's about 60% working xpt for turn in, it just stops at the <Complete Quest> button |
| 07:41.19 | yssaril | orionshock: does it have to use automaton? |
| 07:41.54 | orionshock | tbh i could care less |
| 07:42.13 | orionshock | in the automation thread is a zip file from me -- it's what i made to do what i want .. it works .. sorta |
| 07:42.30 | yssaril | orionshock: kk if i get bored and all my addons are working as they should then i will have a look into it :) |
| 07:43.52 | orionshock | yssaril / Silowyi : http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=2887.msg141133#msg141133 |
| 07:44.33 | Antiarc | Man, playing my warrior in the arena makes me feel really bad for my rogue |
| 07:44.53 | Antiarc | I just MSed a rogue for 2400, melee crit for 1402, HS crit for 2k |
| 07:44.54 | *** join/#wowace Telrin_ (n=test@klaagmuur.quince.nl) |
| 07:45.11 | Antiarc | And I'm geared like crap. :/ |
| 07:45.33 | yssaril | night guys |
| 07:45.51 | orionshock | Antiarc: that's why they need to nerf warriors |
| 07:46.29 | Cartas | NERF WARRIORS?! |
| 07:47.12 | Silowyi | So, I'm sure you've all met that one guy that throws a fit then leaves the guild, community, forums, irc, whatever, right? |
| 07:47.18 | Silowyi | so this guy does it in a forum I'm a member of |
| 07:47.30 | Silowyi | and he's really popular |
| 07:47.36 | Silowyi | so everyone is like "don't go!" |
| 07:48.05 | Silowyi | but he had made all the posts like it was his brother who was posting on his behalf |
| 07:48.22 | Silowyi | so the admins figured that his account had been hacked, and banned him, and a bunch of other people |
| 07:48.39 | CIA-22 | 03nickenyfiken * r49810 10Cartographer_nnTrainers/Cartographer_nnTrainers.toc: Cartographer_nnTrainers: Update TOC to 20200 |
| 07:48.42 | Silowyi | of course it was all "a joke" |
| 07:48.47 | Silowyi | things die down |
| 07:48.55 | CIA-22 | 03nickenyfiken * r49811 10FuBar_TrainerFu/ (FuBar_TrainerFu.toc modules/TrainerNotes.lua): FuBar_TrainerFu: Update TOC to 20200 |
| 07:49.20 | Silowyi | then a week later he posts again "I'm afraid I'm going to have to leave for real now... turns out I got Halo 3, and I'll be migrating away from the computer to the couch." |
| 07:49.42 | Silowyi | I suppose that would have been funny if anyone else in here knew him... |
| 07:49.56 | weab | possibly |
| 07:50.30 | weab | you'd think he'd pick a better game to "replace" wow with. |
| 07:51.04 | weab | or is he in halo's 12-17 demographic |
| 07:51.05 | Silowyi | it wasn't a WoW forum |
| 07:51.45 | weab | i see. |
| 07:51.56 | Silowyi | still, your comment applies |
| 07:52.34 | Silowyi | I sort of have the impression that having played BioShock, I probably won't be that impressed by Halo3 when I get around to playing it |
| 07:52.59 | weab | i'm sure it'll be a good game. but the hype surrounding it is overblown |
| 07:53.24 | weab | good, not some masterpiece of dramatic literature some people are trying to make it out to be. |
| 07:53.49 | Silowyi | nope, that was BioShock |
| 07:54.29 | Silowyi | Bioshock is the kind of game I wish was based upon a book |
| 07:54.38 | weab | i still haven't finished it |
| 07:55.04 | buu | The problem with games is, if you put story in them, they become boring. |
| 07:55.17 | buu | So it's a constant trade off and never works well. |
| 07:55.38 | weab | that's not true. |
| 07:55.46 | buu | It is too! |
| 07:55.57 | weab | what is true, is that people feel like they have to put a story in every game |
| 07:56.06 | weab | even when the game doesn't require or even benefit from one |
| 07:56.09 | weab | and that just makes the game worse |
| 07:56.11 | buu | There is that. |
| 07:56.16 | buu | SeriousSam for the win. |
| 07:56.20 | Gngsk | anyone here have an active mmowned account? |
| 07:56.31 | ZealotOnAStick | Silowyi: sorry, just checking . . . was that meant to be sarcastic? |
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| 07:57.05 | weab | about bioshock? i'd guess probably not. |
| 07:57.29 | buu | weab: I guess the thing is, either the player isn't the main character, in which case the story doesn't really matter, or he is, and in order to actually tell a coherent story you have to lock the player to rails |
| 07:57.38 | Kaelten | is eu's servers up yet? |
| 07:57.53 | weab | buu: ever play grim fandango? |
| 07:57.57 | buu | Nope. |
| 07:58.12 | ZealotOnAStick | I did, though I got stuck in the second actr. |
| 07:58.13 | buu | Lucas Arts point and click adventure? |
| 07:58.19 | weab | yeah |
| 07:58.24 | ZealotOnAStick | s/act/actr |
| 07:58.25 | weab | excellent story |
| 07:58.27 | Silowyi | ZAOS: I meant that BioShock was about as good as you can get at having an interesting game and still be compelling and dramatic literature. |
| 07:58.35 | dreamss | lol |
| 07:58.51 | Silowyi | s/game/fps/ |
| 07:59.08 | weab | you have to take it all in context. everything is relative |
| 07:59.10 | Silowyi | obviously most/all RPGs are going to put out more story |
| 07:59.29 | ZealotOnAStick | Bioshock is basically System Shock 2 in Ayn Rand's little playworld. |
| 07:59.38 | ZealotOnAStick | ok, big playworld, based on word count, but still . . .\ |
| 07:59.39 | Srosh | Kaelten, some are, some aren't. |
| 08:00.46 | Kaelten | oh shit |
| 08:00.48 | Silowyi | ZOAS: I have been told that System Shock is better |
| 08:01.18 | weab | how about psychonauts |
| 08:01.23 | weab | that was a pretty neat story. |
| 08:02.20 | weab | certainly not grand literature, but it tied in with the concept of the game well |
| 08:03.14 | Silowyi | I mostly enjoy new ideas, things that make me think in directions I haven't before |
| 08:03.46 | Fisker- | damn i like the new sound engine |
| 08:03.55 | Silowyi | Fisker-: you are the only one |
| 08:04.02 | weab | seriously? |
| 08:04.03 | weab | i like it too |
| 08:04.12 | ZealotOnAStick | I'm not too fond of it. |
| 08:04.19 | weab | finally i can hear all the things i couldn't hear before without cranking the volume up too loud |
| 08:04.27 | ZealotOnAStick | Things just don't sound right now. |
| 08:04.46 | Fisker- | i'm with weab |
| 08:04.50 | weab | what sound setup, stereo, headphones, 5.1? |
| 08:04.57 | Fisker- | headphones here |
| 08:05.01 | Fisker- | or headset |
| 08:05.12 | Fisker- | my 5.1 is collecting dust actually :/ |
| 08:05.27 | weab | i'm using 5.1, and i could never hear stuff like voices without cranking the sound up loud enough that my neighbor complains |
| 08:05.57 | Kaelten | Uptime11 hours 14 min 17 s |
| 08:05.58 | Kaelten | Started at2007-09-25 16:51:24 |
| 08:05.58 | Kaelten | absolute (since start) |
| 08:05.58 | Kaelten | Requests3 Mreq |
| 08:05.58 | Kaelten | Traffic485.34 Gbyte |
| 08:06.04 | Kaelten | you all can go to heck! |
| 08:06.33 | Silowyi | Kaelten: how much is that going to cost you? |
| 08:06.38 | neenee | I had an X-Fi soundcard. Then I moved to Vista and couldn't use it properly anymore. So I went to on-board, but then I heard things like mail-armour jingling in WoW which I could not hear before. Quite odd. |
| 08:06.50 | Grum | Silowyi: only his firstborn |
| 08:07.07 | Kaelten | I've reach a sponsership deal with curse |
| 08:07.11 | Kaelten | reached* |
| 08:07.17 | Fisker- | For example i never had the cool flying sound |
| 08:07.21 | Silowyi | Kalten: so.. .free! ya! |
| 08:07.22 | Fisker- | and normally none of the background music either |
| 08:07.23 | neenee | Time for some TF2 |
| 08:07.24 | Fisker- | but i have that now |
| 08:07.38 | Fisker- | i usually just had voices + spell effects |
| 08:07.38 | CIA-22 | 03livid * r49812 10Queeg/Queeg.toc: |
| 08:07.38 | CIA-22 | Queeg: |
| 08:07.38 | CIA-22 | - Update TOC to 20200 |
| 08:07.39 | weab | <3 tf2 |
| 08:07.52 | Grum | nice Kaelten, how much traffic does it push ? (without patch spikes ofc) |
| 08:08.10 | Kaelten | avg, about 30-40 mbit/s at the 95th |
| 08:08.20 | Grum | lol :D |
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| 08:08.24 | baer_ | moin! |
| 08:08.26 | Grum | that is much :D |
| 08:08.36 | Kaelten | I've seen us peak at 320 mbit/s yesterday |
| 08:08.48 | Grum | gbit interface? |
| 08:08.49 | [Ammo] | nice |
| 08:08.51 | Grum | (1 box?) |
| 08:08.54 | baer_ | ok, any suggestions before starting wow-2.2 ? :-} |
| 08:09.07 | Grum | baer_: make a baby |
| 08:09.09 | Kaelten | we have two boxes on 1 gige uncapped ports now |
| 08:09.14 | Silowyi | Heh, at that kind of throughput you'd have to have it clustered |
| 08:09.15 | Fisker- | nice |
| 08:09.19 | Fisker- | i love gige's? |
| 08:09.21 | Fisker- | :P |
| 08:09.22 | baer_ | Grum: again? |
| 08:09.33 | Silowyi | Either that or own a very expensive blade |
| 08:09.35 | Fisker- | Stop! Banhammer time! |
| 08:09.36 | baer_ | wasn't that the tip for 2.1.3? :-D |
| 08:09.52 | Kaelten | Silowyi: not yet |
| 08:09.58 | Kaelten | files is still running off of one box |
| 08:09.59 | Grum | baer_: dunno, wasnt here at that time ^^ |
| 08:10.43 | Grum | Silowyi: depending on the hardware doing 320mbit for a box just pushing files on http is quite doable |
| 08:11.03 | baer_ | Grum: ok, let's say "already done! what else?" :-D |
| 08:11.13 | Grum | make another one! |
| 08:11.18 | Silowyi | Grum: you'd need some hardware... but yeah possible |
| 08:11.33 | Grum | Silowyi: mostly fast disks and some cpu |
| 08:11.37 | Grum | and a decent os ^^ |
| 08:11.37 | Kaelten | hardware raid5 and a gige port |
| 08:11.49 | Kaelten | dual dual core xeons |
| 08:12.01 | Silowyi | Kaelten: which distro you using? |
| 08:12.06 | Kaelten | ubuntu server |
| 08:12.24 | Fisker- | atleast get an a :/ |
| 08:13.26 | Kaelten | get an a what? |
| 08:13.33 | Grum | a ':/' |
| 08:13.50 | Kaelten | we had some issues earlier today with too many files being open |
| 08:13.50 | Kaelten | hehe |
| 08:13.53 | neenee | colon slash? |
| 08:14.08 | pastamancer | sounds painful |
| 08:14.16 | Grum | yup! .. prolly like http:// orso O.o |
| 08:14.18 | Silowyi | oh I ran into that before |
| 08:14.22 | kandarz | anyone have an example of the basic dropdown menu using blizz textures but the menu being dewdrop? |
| 08:14.33 | Kaelten | ya ulimit |
| 08:14.38 | Silowyi | we had a mail server, running qmail with tmda |
| 08:14.41 | Kaelten | and server.max-fds |
| 08:14.49 | Silowyi | which was a rather huge mistake |
| 08:14.54 | Grum | Kaelten: google ftw right? ^^ |
| 08:15.14 | Kaelten | that and I know a few linux dudes that I was able to copy and paste a error bit at and he said "look at ulimit" |
| 08:15.27 | Grum | ^^ |
| 08:15.33 | Grum | irc ftl :D |
| 08:15.38 | MoonWolf | the world needs more people like that. |
| 08:15.46 | Silowyi | When the tmda blacklists got up to around 20-30 mb, it was taking TMDA about 6 minutes to process a single message.... this quickly escalated. We actually ended up hitting the inode limit on that box too... |
| 08:15.58 | Kaelten | hehe |
| 08:16.03 | Grum | Silowyi: auch ^^ |
| 08:16.04 | baer_ | honestly, anyone already tried 2.2 ? |
| 08:16.09 | CIA-22 | 03pb_ee1 * r49813 10Elephant/Elephant.toc: Elephant: Updating TOC. |
| 08:16.20 | Kaelten | well now files time out at 60 seconds instead of 360 and it can have 2048 files open instead of 1024 |
| 08:16.25 | Grum | baer_: yes! (just saying that so you will stfu and you will not be able to see this last part!) |
| 08:16.39 | baer_ | *hehe* |
| 08:16.44 | Grum | did it work? :D |
| 08:16.49 | baer_ | not a chance, Grum. |
| 08:16.56 | Grum | dammit! baer_ > Grum |
| 08:18.22 | dreamss | bleh autobar is breaking my balls |
| 08:18.24 | neenee | Join me in TF2! woo! |
| 08:19.23 | Grum | ~purge neenee |
| 08:19.30 | Grum | ~lart purl |
| 08:19.30 | purl | urinates on grum |
| 08:19.34 | Kaelten | someone needs to fix autobar |
| 08:20.08 | Gamefaq | broke something with 2.2? |
| 08:20.12 | Gngsk | screw autobar, use autorack! |
| 08:20.33 | cryogen | autorack is not in the same league |
| 08:20.40 | cryogen | whats wrong with autobar btw? |
| 08:20.44 | Grum | what's broken with autobar? |
| 08:20.54 | Gamefaq | our server are currently down so i don't know if autobar works |
| 08:20.59 | Gngsk | least autorack works :P |
| 08:21.07 | Kaelten | autobar's item buttons don't work any more |
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| 08:21.12 | Kaelten | or at least they didn't for my wife earlier |
| 08:21.24 | cryogen | just dont work, or give an error? |
| 08:21.41 | Srosh | All EU servers are no up, except for one or two. |
| 08:21.44 | Srosh | *now |
| 08:21.47 | CIA-22 | 03deccard * r49814 10MiniChat/MiniChat.toc: |
| 08:21.47 | CIA-22 | MiniChat: |
| 08:21.47 | CIA-22 | - toc update for 2.2 |
| 08:22.10 | Fisker- | people are funny |
| 08:22.16 | Grum | s/funny/smelly |
| 08:22.27 | Fisker- | "OMG YOU GONNA BAN ME FOR ACCOUNT SHARINGS" |
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| 08:22.29 | Fisker- | This is new! |
| 08:22.40 | Fisker- | http://forums.wow-europe.com/thread.html?topicId=1016281633&postId=10158901876&sid=1 |
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| 08:23.38 | Grum | man who does read that crap anyways ^^ |
| 08:23.43 | Kebinusan | bleh Im half tempted to install windows again, but I'll be damned if I can find my xp cd key |
| 08:23.50 | Grum | i can give you one ... O.o |
| 08:23.58 | neenee | They can't even find out though. |
| 08:24.08 | dreamss | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=1778045786&sid=1#1 <-- will this fix work on the paperdoll error? |
| 08:24.19 | Silowyi | neenee: they can easily, your login ips are logged ^_^ |
| 08:24.21 | Kebinusan | heh |
| 08:24.46 | Silowyi | neenee: but generally they have to have a reason to look before they will care... like if you're reported |
| 08:24.49 | dreamss | they only track them when ur accopunt gets compromised (yes i dint say hacked) |
| 08:24.56 | Kebinusan | eh, dealing with wow in wine just seems tiring after a while.. especially trying to get it and ventrilo to play nice |
| 08:25.00 | dreamss | or if ur botting :P |
| 08:25.04 | Bruners | anyone got info on where to farm for ragesteel shoulder pattern? |
| 08:25.13 | Bruners | *what mobs |
| 08:25.53 | dreamss | i cant find the link around to fix itemrack |
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| 08:26.31 | Kebinusan | dreamss, there was fix posted on the elitistjerks forum I came across earlier |
| 08:26.41 | dreamss | yeah cant find it anymore |
| 08:26.46 | dreamss | someone pasted the link earlier |
| 08:26.55 | Kebinusan | sec, lemme rummage |
| 08:26.55 | dreamss | ContainerFrameItemButton_OnEnter(self) |
| 08:26.57 | dreamss | was that it? |
| 08:27.01 | Vires | 6[The Most Uber Item Evar] lol, control codes. |
| 08:27.09 | Kebinusan | yeah it was adding self on two lines |
| 08:27.18 | ZealotOnAStick | dreamss: why not just download the version Gello posted on WoWInterface? |
| 08:27.35 | dreamss | yeah i dont remember whitch function |
| 08:27.44 | dreamss | zealot i dont mind fixing it as long i find the post :P |
| 08:28.03 | ZealotOnAStick | the fixes are also in the comments for the download there. |
| 08:28.12 | Grum | lets say when my gf made a ingame ticket and they responded to my client because she just logged off .. shows that they can do anything (and are in fact doing stuff with the login data already) |
| 08:28.17 | Kebinusan | dreamss, http://elitistjerks.com/487362-post66.html |
| 08:29.06 | dreamss | hello |
| 08:29.14 | Grum | oh and that was 1.5yrs ago :) |
| 08:29.45 | dreamss | yeah blizz aint no joke' |
| 08:30.38 | Grum | blizz actually uses the data it mines .. scary ^^ |
| 08:30.40 | Kebinusan | well they certainly dont age out anything... my item restore from january after release asking for my dreadmist boots to be restored was still in their system.. and they wouldnt restore items for me because of tickets before their loss prevention crap |
| 08:31.00 | Grum | how many times did you have items restored? |
| 08:31.10 | Kebinusan | They were a bitch to get back then with the baroness mind controlling and stratholme evading bugs |
| 08:31.12 | Grum | i've had 5-6 tickets since feb orso |
| 08:31.28 | Kebinusan | 4-5 I think since the game release |
| 08:31.29 | Grum | or restored .. 'fixed' .. |
| 08:31.34 | Grum | ML gone wonky etc |
| 08:31.38 | Kebinusan | none since like 9 months before tbc |
| 08:31.49 | theoddone33 | I wish my mods weren't broke... heh |
| 08:32.02 | Kebinusan | but ive tried a couple of times since then to get items restored and they give me shit about tstuff that old |
| 08:32.44 | Silowyi | I've had tons of tickets, only one item restore |
| 08:32.54 | Silowyi | last time I tried to get an item restored though they told me I'd never had it |
| 08:33.29 | Silowyi | which was BS, but eh, I had transfered that character to a new account so maybe they didn't have everything on record anymore |
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| 08:33.55 | Silowyi | it was my TBC gate event tabard |
| 08:34.02 | Silowyi | the one that did the cool arcane explosion animation :( |
| 08:34.33 | Grum | i still want that wand which shoots 2 bolts ^^ |
| 08:35.10 | Fisker- | is brewfest started? |
| 08:35.15 | Grum | dunno |
| 08:35.19 | Grum | but it seems llame |
| 08:35.33 | neenee | Ofcourse it's not started. Check the website for the dates. October.. |
| 08:35.39 | m4rku5 | Fisker-, isnt brewfest 2.2.2 ? so it cant start on 2.2.0 :P |
| 08:36.11 | Vires | That makes me want to go to German and get blasted for some reason |
| 08:36.12 | m4rku5 | umm and why the hell is fisheye lagging xD |
| 08:36.18 | Vires | Germany* |
| 08:36.20 | Fisker- | that's what i was thinking m4rku5 |
| 08:36.35 | m4rku5 | Vires, im from Germany and umm i dont know whats so special about the Oktoberfest :P |
| 08:36.43 | m4rku5 | its like any other fest here its just bigger ;) |
| 08:36.52 | neenee | Then perhaps you do not partake in the Oktoberfest |
| 08:37.02 | Vires | I'm American so I'd be an exploitable tourist. |
| 08:37.52 | Silowyi | Octoberfest is huge huge huge in San Antonio, I'll tell you that |
| 08:38.13 | Vires | Nothing wrong with getting blasted with a few hundred thousand people you don't know... is there? |
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| 08:38.31 | m4rku5 | well I like going to smaller fests because u dont have to be there at 9am if u want a place in the tent and the beer is cheeper :P ;) |
| 08:39.49 | Trell_ | its so sool being eu on patch day |
| 08:40.03 | Trell_ | any addon errors are caught by the US patchers |
| 08:40.09 | Trell_ | and boom, we get a smooth transition |
| 08:40.13 | Trell_ | well, thats the hope |
| 08:40.20 | m4rku5 | hehe |
| 08:40.45 | Vires | Unless the coder is EU to? lol |
| 08:40.45 | m4rku5 | any "admin" here ? why is fisheye missing about at least 50revs ? |
| 08:40.52 | CIA-22 | 03rabbit * r49815 10ag_UnitFrames/ag_UnitClass.lua: ag_UnitFrames: Typo fix. |
| 08:41.16 | m4rku5 | and someone needs to make a WAU for linux ;) |
| 08:41.28 | m4rku5 | or ill just write a shell script with svn export :P |
| 08:41.31 | Grum | use the java version? ^^ |
| 08:41.38 | m4rku5 | theres a java version ? |
| 08:41.42 | m4rku5 | i thought it was .net only |
| 08:41.50 | Grum | i think WAU2 is java |
| 08:41.55 | m4rku5 | let me go check that out |
| 08:42.12 | cryogen | there are several updaters that run on linux and wua2 is one of them yes |
| 08:42.44 | Vires | http://www.wowace.com/wau2/ |
| 08:42.52 | m4rku5 | heh back in mid 2006 i had my own "updater" aka a bunch of svn export's in a bash script ;) |
| 08:42.53 | neenee | .topic |
| 08:42.59 | m4rku5 | to pack the addons for my guild |
| 08:43.15 | neenee | The topic needs to be changed though. Now it's as if WAU 2.0 is a later version of WAU 1.9.44 |
| 08:44.17 | orionshock | m4rku5: i use nsi to pack addons for my guild... or did |
| 08:44.35 | Fisker- | http://forums.wow-europe.com/thread.html?topicId=1016281633&postId=10158901876&sid=1 <-more lulz to be had |
| 08:44.39 | m4rku5 | well i dont pack them anymore since they use WAU now |
| 08:44.46 | Fisker- | "Oh noes i was account sharing and i made a ticket saying i was and the GM warned me |
| 08:44.47 | Fisker- | " |
| 08:44.49 | Fisker- | HOW RUDE! |
| 08:45.46 | m4rku5 | Vires, can i start wau from commandline ? |
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| 08:46.38 | Vires | Not a clue. I didn't write it, lol. |
| 08:47.01 | m4rku5 | lol :P damn 64bit firefox ;) |
| 08:48.41 | m4rku5 | cryogen what other updaters for linux are there ? (or any way i can start wau2 without a browser :S) |
| 08:49.03 | Jaxon | m4rku5: jwowupdater |
| 08:49.05 | cryogen | theres a few listed on the wiki |
| 08:49.15 | m4rku5 | ok ill search the wiki |
| 08:49.22 | Higdur | is wau2 supposed to be running on os x? |
| 08:49.22 | cryogen | the wowaceupdater page |
| 08:50.03 | Vires | Hey the leatherworker got new flavor text |
| 08:54.52 | [AoC]Camci | First time ever my UI doesnt go emo after a patch \o/ |
| 08:56.19 | Jaxon | So now my WoW client is doing this cool thing where the error report app pops up, but WoW doesn't crash, it just displays the Dock and the menubar at the top over WoW. |
| 08:57.01 | Aens|Superiority | I prefer WoW UI Updater. wuu.vagabonds.info. Has windows mac linux support. Done in Python |
| 08:57.01 | breser | Error report runs for assesertion failures not just crashes. |
| 08:57.05 | [AoC]Camci | what does XLootGroup really do ? |
| 08:57.31 | Jaxon | breser: yes, but who cares why, it just does it on its own, which is AWESOME. |
| 08:57.33 | neenee | It shows you what the group loots, filtered on quality |
| 08:57.46 | [AoC]Camci | ah |
| 08:57.51 | [AoC]Camci | nothing for me then :) |
| 08:57.57 | neenee | Does WoW UI Updater update Ace too? |
| 08:58.01 | breser | It's not like that's new, it's always been able to do that. |
| 08:58.16 | Aens|Superiority | It supports WoWAce, WoWInterface, Curse-Gaming, AuctioneerAddon, GathererAddon, CosmosUI, CTMod, CapnBry, GoogleCode and AceSVN |
| 08:58.28 | [AoC]Camci | Ace2 is an addon ingame ? |
| 08:58.39 | *** join/#wowace ven (n=ven@i59F54026.versanet.de) |
| 08:58.44 | Trell_ | meh |
| 08:58.46 | ZealotOnAStick | Anyone have any good anime reccommendations? I need something new and fun to watch. |
| 08:58.47 | Trell_ | 106 of 109mb |
| 08:58.57 | Trell_ | Zealot: Heroes |
| 08:59.01 | Trell_ | not anime |
| 08:59.04 | Trell_ | but best show on tv |
| 08:59.05 | Trell_ | ever |
| 08:59.12 | ZealotOnAStick | I'm entirely current on Heroes. |
| 08:59.18 | ZealotOnAStick | Thanks. |
| 08:59.21 | ZealotOnAStick | I asked for Anime. |
| 08:59.25 | Trell_ | i know |
| 08:59.41 | theoddone33 | hmm this is going to be fun, I haven't updated marsbar since TBC came out |
| 08:59.51 | Fisker- | pitchlimit is back wee |
| 08:59.54 | theoddone33 | but it finally broke |
| 08:59.57 | Fisker- | i liek |
| 09:00.04 | Aens|Superiority | ZealotOnAStick: seirei no moribito |
| 09:00.56 | Trell_ | yay, patching awesome |
| 09:01.08 | *** join/#wowace Sirow (n=Miranda_@p57A4D3EC.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 09:01.34 | Trell_ | hopefully everyone will have updated to rock now so I'll be able to spy on talents ingame, <3 dogtags in cowtip ;) |
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| 09:02.01 | theoddone33 | I don't know what rock is |
| 09:02.04 | theoddone33 | but somehow I have it |
| 09:02.13 | Trell_ | fubar |
| 09:02.16 | Trell_ | the new system |
| 09:02.20 | theoddone33 | it's fubar renamed? |
| 09:02.21 | dreamss | its a config manu |
| 09:02.25 | theoddone33 | I saw it |
| 09:02.29 | dreamss | for all addons |
| 09:02.31 | dreamss | ace addons |
| 09:02.35 | theoddone33 | it was cool but faded in and out oddly |
| 09:02.35 | dreamss | like khaos for cosmos |
| 09:02.37 | ZealotOnAStick | Yeesh. second addon thing I heard most of today on vent: "what the hell is this "Rock Configuration" thing?" |
| 09:02.43 | Trell_ | haha |
| 09:02.55 | theoddone33 | I right clicked on fubar to see where all my icons went and it just popped up |
| 09:03.07 | Sirow | lol, once again all major addon sites are down XD |
| 09:03.07 | Trell_ | it was a bit shocking when I updated when it first came out |
| 09:03.20 | Trell_ | most people are seeing it for the first time now though |
| 09:03.25 | theoddone33 | but how does it involve spying on people's talents? |
| 09:03.27 | ZealotOnAStick | First would probably be a tie between "Is anyone else's Grid throwing errors?" and "Crap, I can't decurse" |
| 09:03.42 | theoddone33 | my grid was fine |
| 09:03.50 | Trell_ | theoddone33 |
| 09:03.55 | theoddone33 | my pitbull was definitely not :( |
| 09:03.55 | Trell_ | using cowtip, and dogtags |
| 09:04.07 | theoddone33 | ah |
| 09:04.11 | Trell_ | i don't pretend to understand how it works, but if you've got rock, you've got dogtags on |
| 09:04.13 | theoddone33 | but only if they have... something installed |
| 09:04.19 | Trell_ | and thus, you can see peoples talents |
| 09:04.27 | Trell_ | http://www.flashdesignwebsites.com/cowtip.jpg |
| 09:04.41 | Jaxon | 404 |
| 09:04.50 | Trell_ | sorry |
| 09:04.51 | Trell_ | http://www.cashcowgames.com/cowtip.jpg |
| 09:05.00 | CIA-22 | 03arkayenro * r49816 10ArkInventory/ (4 files): |
| 09:05.00 | CIA-22 | ArkInventory: |
| 09:05.00 | CIA-22 | - 2.10 |
| 09:05.08 | Ellipsis_ | ;you can see people's talents if you and they are both running Rock |
| 09:05.35 | dreamss | dosent matter |
| 09:05.36 | Ellipsis_ | you can use DogTags (on CowTips or PitBull frames) to view the numbers/name of primary tree(s), or you can see the full spec in Talented |
| 09:05.41 | dreamss | since armory has them too |
| 09:05.54 | Kuja^ | hrm my autobar broke, anyone has a fix for that yet? its displaying the icons but clicking dosn't work |
| 09:05.55 | Ellipsis | nice not to have to alt-tab though |
| 09:06.06 | Ellipsis | Kuja^, everyone's in the same boat right now >_> |
| 09:06.07 | Sirow | Btw. Trell_ could you share that cowtips layout? :) |
| 09:06.18 | Trell_ | i'ts changed recently, but sure |
| 09:06.23 | Trell_ | once i get in i'll re'ss it |
| 09:06.30 | Trell_ | at 98% patching now |
| 09:06.35 | theoddone33 | man that's way too much info for me |
| 09:06.43 | Ellipsis | ^ |
| 09:06.57 | Sirow | ^^ |
| 09:06.58 | Jaxon | Name, class, race, level. |
| 09:07.04 | Jaxon | Why would you need more? |
| 09:07.19 | Trell_ | because i like spying on people |
| 09:07.27 | Sirow | hihi :D |
| 09:07.28 | theoddone33 | mine isn't cowtip but I like it |
| 09:07.37 | theoddone33 | target would be handy though |
| 09:07.50 | Trell_ | <3 ellipsis for turning me on to cowtip |
| 09:07.51 | CIA-22 | 03deccard * r49817 10MiniChat/Core.lua: |
| 09:07.51 | CIA-22 | MiniChat: |
| 09:07.51 | CIA-22 | - fix for a problem with SmartMinimize |
| 09:07.52 | theoddone33 | tinytip is what I think I'm using |
| 09:08.03 | Trell_ | i used to use that theoddone |
| 09:08.13 | neenee | I use Target too, but not much else. |
| 09:08.47 | theoddone33 | I did try cowtip |
| 09:08.51 | theoddone33 | but the default was... bleh |
| 09:08.59 | theoddone33 | so i stopped trying it |
| 09:09.00 | Trell_ | yah the default wasn't great |
| 09:09.25 | Trell_ | anyone in on eu servers yet? |
| 09:09.29 | Trell_ | im stuck on connecting |
| 09:09.35 | neenee | But thankfully there's a good thread on the forums with examples :) |
| 09:09.46 | dreamss | whats the freaking quest track log frame called |
| 09:09.57 | Sirow | Trell: Patching ^^ |
| 09:10.09 | Trell_ | ah im done with patching |
| 09:10.15 | Trell_ | just trying to get in now ;) |
| 09:10.39 | neenee | done too, but the servers won't be up until 2 or 3pm anyway according to Blizzard, no use in trying yet. |
| 09:10.53 | Sirow | Well at least I'm one of the lucky guys who's on a Voice Chat server ^^ |
| 09:11.22 | Trell_ | 'lucky' |
| 09:11.26 | neenee | I hope I am on one too :) |
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| 09:11.34 | Trell_ | neenee - 2-3pm? |
| 09:11.37 | neenee | I think so |
| 09:11.38 | Trell_ | gmt, or server times |
| 09:11.47 | neenee | Hm. Perhaps I am mistaken then. |
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| 09:12.04 | Vires | I used TipBuddy back in the day.. then tried a bunch out... TiptTac was good... using CowTip right now since I'm too lazy to go to other sites. Ace seems solid enough to base an entire UI on =p |
| 09:12.26 | Gondor_2k | anyone other than me have problems whit Autobar? |
| 09:12.35 | Sirow | Trell: You are using ClearFont right? You now the name of the font, looks nice :) |
| 09:12.40 | cryogen | Gondor_2k: you are not alone, apparently :) |
| 09:12.41 | neenee | oh, I can already log in. |
| 09:12.47 | neenee | logging in then |
| 09:13.48 | Trell_ | Sirow; Prototype |
| 09:13.55 | Sirow | tyty |
| 09:14.10 | Jaxon | What is the format for using itemids in macros, is it i:####? |
| 09:14.18 | Trell_ | zomg, im in |
| 09:14.22 | ennuilg | Well, having just gotten on to Bloodhoof-EU, everything seems remarkably stable, add-on wise... |
| 09:14.25 | Trell_ | neenee, you lie |
| 09:14.43 | Sirow | zomg, go patch go :> |
| 09:14.55 | neenee | I don't lie |
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| 09:15.02 | abbat_w | Morning guys |
| 09:15.02 | neenee | But bartender doesn't seem to work :| |
| 09:15.12 | Trell_ | bah same |
| 09:15.13 | abbat_w | Congrats with 2.2 patch ;) |
| 09:15.14 | Vires | Working fine for me |
| 09:15.16 | Sirow | good morngin |
| 09:15.23 | Ellipsis | so am I like, the only person who *didn't* have widescreen UI scale issues after patch? >_> |
| 09:15.31 | abbat_w | Btw guys, it's important to update addons with 2.2? |
| 09:15.34 | ennuilg | I didn't either Ellipsis. |
| 09:15.38 | Trell_ | oh well, here he go...booted straight out |
| 09:15.38 | Sirow | <- No widescrren |
| 09:15.40 | abbat_w | Or old versions should works fine? |
| 09:15.42 | Trell_ | *we |
| 09:15.47 | ennuilg | Everything exactly where I left it on my 1680x1050 UI. |
| 09:15.48 | Vires | I'm running Widescreen.. but it probably helped I nuked my config (like, all of it) |
| 09:16.00 | neenee | 1680x1050 here too, but bartender doesn't work |
| 09:16.05 | Trell_ | maybe I should tick load out of date addons >_< |
| 09:16.12 | abbat_w | ni-ni ;) |
| 09:16.13 | Sirow | rofl |
| 09:16.17 | Nargiddley | Ellipsis, i diddnt know there was issues with it. no probs here |
| 09:16.19 | Sirow | sel owned :> |
| 09:16.29 | Ellipsis | my 1440x900 was exactly the way I left it...but there are posts eeeeeeeeeverywhere of people whose UI layouts got all messed up |
| 09:16.44 | Ellipsis | guess I'm glad I'm not one of them...after all the work I did to get it pixel perfect >_< |
| 09:17.33 | Trell_ | well, got in and everything looked fine |
| 09:17.38 | Trell_ | but got dc'd instantly again |
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| 09:17.56 | neenee | Woops. I had forgotten to check that 'Enable Old Addons' thing. Everything seems to work fine now. |
| 09:18.02 | sag_ich_nicht | Ellipsis: did you use uiscale before? |
| 09:18.15 | sag_ich_nicht | and do you play in windowed, windowed maxed or fullscreen |
| 09:18.18 | sag_ich_nicht | and mac or pc |
| 09:18.25 | CIA-22 | 03mecdemort * r49818 10BigWigs_WaveTimers/Core.lua: BigWigs_WaveTimers: - Fixed previous improper optimizations. |
| 09:18.29 | woden | ellipsis : i'm a widescreen layout and some things have moved |
| 09:18.31 | Ellipsis | windowed max, with a UI scale somewhere in the middle, on Windows |
| 09:18.39 | woden | i'm in windowed on max |
| 09:18.39 | Trell_ | mm im getting everyone showing as naked, including myself - had this happen to me once before |
| 09:18.44 | woden | not sure about ui scale though |
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| 09:18.54 | sag_ich_nicht | Trell_: delete your Cache folder |
| 09:19.07 | Vires | Share us the layout first =o |
| 09:19.08 | Ellipsis | Trell_: enjoy it while it lasts XD |
| 09:19.45 | neenee | Hm. My autobar is broken though |
| 09:19.58 | Trell_ | i'll check mine once im in, neenee |
| 09:20.09 | neenee | oki |
| 09:20.25 | cryogen | any autobar-broken-people want to do /script DEFAULT_CHAT_FRAME:AddMessage(AutoBar.buttons[1]:GetAttribute("type")) ? |
| 09:20.39 | sag_ich_nicht | Trell_: otherwice try /console gxrestart after logging in |
| 09:20.41 | cryogen | (and tell me what you have in slot 1) |
| 09:20.48 | dreamss | sec cry |
| 09:20.57 | cryogen | the more the better |
| 09:21.09 | abbat_w | guys, all mods are broken now? |
| 09:21.17 | dreamss | bleh i wonder what addon is fucking with my quest log tracker frame |
| 09:21.18 | neenee | no |
| 09:21.19 | abbat_w | or something works fine even w/o update? |
| 09:21.19 | cryogen | abbat_w: very few, i hear |
| 09:21.19 | dreamss | lameass |
| 09:21.26 | kandarz | dewdrop question, how can I specify where the menu appears in relation to the button? |
| 09:21.30 | cryogen | dreamss: questfu? |
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| 09:21.41 | Trell_ | mmm still all nakedness, sag_ich, and /console gxrestart didn't help |
| 09:21.52 | dreamss | doubt its an ace addon, i had this issue for a while |
| 09:22.13 | dreamss | i think cosmos is doing it |
| 09:22.14 | dreamss | bleh |
| 09:22.20 | Ellipsis | sag_ich_nicht: gxrestart won't help with the cache bug |
| 09:22.34 | dreamss | what cache bug? |
| 09:22.38 | sag_ich_nicht | Ellipsis: i know, but i figure his video card driver might have hiccupped like mine sometimes does |
| 09:22.39 | Trell_ | deleted cache; and still nakedness, any other ideas? |
| 09:22.43 | Mecdemort | cryogen: attempt to call method 'GetAttribute' (a nil value), first slot is hearth stone and portals |
| 09:22.43 | Ellipsis | when I had it, nothing seemed to fix it except logging in and out 5000 times |
| 09:22.52 | Ellipsis | sag_ich_nicht: just check if he can see item icons in inventory, easy distinction :P |
| 09:23.03 | Trell_ | mm I used to get it all the time with AG and CT_Raid |
| 09:23.04 | sag_ich_nicht | Trell_: reboot your PC, your video card driver probably hiccupped |
| 09:23.04 | cryogen | alright, i got the wrong object then |
| 09:23.05 | cryogen | moment |
| 09:23.13 | cryogen | Mecdemort: hs isnt working for you right? |
| 09:23.15 | Trell_ | for some reason |
| 09:23.21 | Sirow | Dispite me switching to eepanesls 2 +coetips, everything thems working |
| 09:23.34 | Mecdemort | cryogen: nope, hs doesnt work, portals do, mount doesnt, summoning food/water does, using food/water doesnt |
| 09:23.43 | cryogen | Mecdemort: oh, GetAttributes not GetAttribute |
| 09:23.43 | Ellipsis | Trell_ - open your bags and tell us if you can see all the item icons or if there are ?s |
| 09:23.59 | neenee | I see my items :) |
| 09:23.59 | Ellipsis | and if anyone around you is showing as "unknown" in addition to nekkidly |
| 09:24.01 | cryogen | so basically as i suspected |
| 09:24.05 | cryogen | items are not working, but spells are |
| 09:24.07 | neenee | Nope, no nakedness here either |
| 09:24.12 | Mecdemort | so it appears |
| 09:24.15 | Trell_ | yup all ? |
| 09:24.24 | Mecdemort | sad too, cuz i just recently started using it again :( |
| 09:24.26 | cryogen | i think the way items are set up is wrong |
| 09:24.39 | cryogen | if i could log in i could probably fix it quickly, but i cant :) |
| 09:24.46 | cryogen | but with a little help we can probably get somewhere |
| 09:24.57 | dreamss | yeah im here |
| 09:25.04 | dreamss | just loading wow slowly |
| 09:25.05 | dreamss | :P |
| 09:25.11 | cryogen | no worries |
| 09:25.37 | cryogen | i got the command wrong anyway |
| 09:25.50 | dreamss | GetAttributes dosent work |
| 09:26.02 | Trell_ | gonna restart, see if that helps, brb |
| 09:26.06 | dreamss | Error: attempt to call method 'GetAttributes' (a nil value)String: DEFAULT_CHAT_FRAME:AddMessage(AutoBar.butto...Count: 1 |
| 09:26.10 | cryogen | yeah |
| 09:26.13 | cryogen | i have the wrong object |
| 09:26.14 | cryogen | moment |
| 09:26.31 | cryogen | AutoBar.ssButtons[1]:GetAttribute("type") |
| 09:26.32 | cryogen | try that |
| 09:27.06 | Mecdemort | item |
| 09:27.15 | dreamss | i did /script AutoBar.ssButtons[1]:GetAttribute("type"); |
| 09:27.20 | dreamss | nothing hapened |
| 09:27.32 | cryogen | youd have to put it inside the above print :) |
| 09:27.46 | cryogen | Mecdemort: AutoBar.ssButtons[1]:GetAttribute("item") try that |
| 09:27.53 | cryogen | it *should* give you a link to your hs |
| 09:28.08 | Mecdemort | [Hearthstone] |
| 09:28.30 | cryogen | a proper link? |
| 09:28.46 | Mecdemort | ya |
| 09:28.56 | cryogen | thats how it should be, so thats good |
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| 09:29.14 | neenee | Hm. Problem with Baggins bank interface - tooltips show only for a moment, then vanish |
| 09:29.39 | Nargiddley | neenee, i'll look into that soon |
| 09:29.45 | neenee | No rush :) |
| 09:29.49 | dreamss | cry |
| 09:29.49 | neenee | But thanks |
| 09:29.51 | dreamss | /script DEFAULT_CHAT_FRAME:AddMessage(AutoBar.ssButtons[2]:GetAttribute("type")) |
| 09:29.55 | dreamss | is that correct? |
| 09:29.59 | cryogen | yup |
| 09:30.04 | Mecdemort | neenee: could be a tooltip addon, they were messing up my baggins |
| 09:30.12 | dreamss | it said AM item |
| 09:30.13 | neenee | It's not on all items either |
| 09:30.14 | dreamss | btw |
| 09:30.19 | neenee | Could be Mecdemort. |
| 09:30.29 | Nargiddley | i you have any ace addons, then just /print AutoBar.ssButtons[2]:GetAttribute("type")) should work |
| 09:30.32 | Mecdemort | also probably /run ChatFrame1:AddMessage(...) if you want to save your fingers ;p |
| 09:30.36 | Ellipsis | rrrglgrlglrglrr! |
| 09:30.45 | cryogen | or as Nargiddley said, /print :) |
| 09:30.55 | Mecdemort | yar that too |
| 09:31.12 | cryogen | <PROTECTED> |
| 09:31.23 | cryogen | you should see "item" for the first and then a link to the actual item in the second |
| 09:31.44 | cryogen | and you can replace 2 with any button slot |
| 09:31.56 | neenee | When I move one of the items which has a on/off tooltip in the bank, to my bags, the tooltip works fine. |
| 09:31.56 | dreamss | Error: unexpected symbol near ')'String: Sea.io.print(AutoBar.ssButtons[2]:GetAttribute("type")))Count: 2 |
| 09:32.19 | dreamss | lol |
| 09:32.20 | dreamss | sea |
| 09:32.20 | Mecdemort | ya remove the 2nd ) |
| 09:32.22 | dreamss | fuck |
| 09:32.25 | cryogen | hehe |
| 09:32.25 | neenee | I get something about Rock |
| 09:32.49 | cryogen | damn this is annoying not having access to my home pc |
| 09:32.53 | dreamss | i hate having 100000000 freaking libs |
| 09:32.55 | cryogen | whats the link to the blizzard lua code on wowi? |
| 09:33.09 | Ellipsis | wdn.wowinterface.com |
| 09:33.16 | cryogen | ta |
| 09:33.19 | Ellipsis | np |
| 09:33.48 | Mecdemort | what is that site? |
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| 09:34.11 | cryogen | it just has all the blizzard code on it |
| 09:34.23 | cryogen | and of course is suffering from patch day swamping :) |
| 09:34.37 | cryogen | i just need to check the lua to see if autobar is doing the right thing for setting up its buttons |
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| 09:34.43 | cryogen | im sure i do it a sdlightly different way in my addon |
| 09:35.39 | Mecdemort | is there any way to add new categories to autobar, like with periodictable sets? |
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| 09:35.55 | cryogen | 0 results returned |
| 09:35.56 | Ellipsis | PT3Bar go! |
| 09:36.04 | LuckyLuciano | grrr |
| 09:36.08 | LuckyLuciano | restarted and still nakedness |
| 09:36.12 | Ellipsis | hey I have a crazy thought |
| 09:36.13 | LuckyLuciano | (Trell_ btw) |
| 09:36.25 | Ellipsis | instead of installing an entire addon to show some of your inventory on the screen |
| 09:36.30 | LuckyLuciano | also, after being in for about 5 seconds, it dc's me |
| 09:36.32 | Ellipsis | why don't you *drumroll* open your food bag! |
| 09:36.33 | LuckyLuciano | every time |
| 09:36.36 | ckknight | hey all |
| 09:36.41 | neenee | hello |
| 09:36.49 | Sirow | hey yourself :) |
| 09:37.02 | Mecdemort | because when im in the middle of a fight i dont want to be overloaded by looking for the slot in my bag? |
| 09:37.07 | ckknight | I just saw Lion King |
| 09:37.12 | Ellipsis | kinky |
| 09:37.17 | Ellipsis | I thought you said you weren't into that |
| 09:37.23 | Ellipsis | wait, are we talking the porno or the Disney movie? |
| 09:37.37 | dreamss | O_o |
| 09:37.45 | Corgan | good lord |
| 09:37.48 | Corgan | this movie is hillarious |
| 09:37.49 | LuckyLuciano | any other ideas Ellipsis? |
| 09:37.57 | Ellipsis | LuckyLuciano - sorry, for what? |
| 09:38.01 | LuckyLuciano | deleted cache, restarted, and still nothing |
| 09:38.03 | dreamss | i allways tought the porn version was the Midgetking |
| 09:38.08 | LuckyLuciano | nakedness - this is Trell_ |
| 09:38.13 | ZealotOnAStick | ckknight, would you please return options for dewdrop-style dropdowns in rock-addons? |
| 09:38.20 | Ellipsis | LuckyLuciano - unfortunately, if it is a cache issue, there's no clear fix |
| 09:38.28 | Trell_ | :'( |
| 09:38.33 | ckknight | ZealotOnAStick: what do I gain? |
| 09:38.36 | Ellipsis | many people had success just deleting their cache files but it never worked for me |
| 09:38.49 | Ellipsis | I just kept logging in, waiting till it booted me, rinse and repeat |
| 09:38.49 | CIA-22 | 03jerry * r49819 10ItemBonusLib/ (ItemBonusLib-1.0/ItemBonusLib-1.0.lua ItemBonusLib.toc): ItemBonusLib: updated TOC. Split ARMOR into BASE_ARMOR and ARMOR_BONUS. |
| 09:38.50 | ckknight | Ellipsis: the play |
| 09:38.53 | Trell_ | so...failing that, just keep logging in |
| 09:38.54 | ckknight | not the movie |
| 09:38.57 | ZealotOnAStick | happier users, more admiration and praise. |
| 09:39.05 | Ellipsis | ckknight: ooh, you like to watch huh :D |
| 09:39.14 | ZealotOnAStick | there's a reason many GUIs still use dropdown menus for some things. |
| 09:39.28 | ckknight | dropdowns are great for small configuration |
| 09:39.32 | ckknight | which I don't really have. |
| 09:39.37 | neenee | I prefer dropdowns, especially for pitbull when I just want to change something quickly. |
| 09:39.50 | Ellipsis | ZealotOnAStick: it's been mentioned before. like, a lot. :P |
| 09:40.08 | cryogen | Mecdemort: i wonder.. try /run AutoBar.ssButtons[2]:SetAttribute("type*", "item")) |
| 09:40.12 | cryogen | see if that makes any difference at all |
| 09:40.20 | cryogen | s/2/1/ |
| 09:40.21 | Mecdemort | on 2 or 1 |
| 09:40.24 | Mecdemort | right |
| 09:40.37 | Mecdemort | you and your too many )'s |
| 09:40.37 | Ellipsis | the Rock window can be overkill for making a minor adjustment, but I'd rather have that than use a different UF >_> |
| 09:40.42 | ZealotOnAStick | Ellipsis: I figured as much. Worst he can do is kick me, best case is another voice, hopefully one of reason rather than retarded ranting, may work to convince him. |
| 09:40.48 | cryogen | sorry i just copy and pasted it from above :) |
| 09:41.06 | ennuilg | I tell you what I love about Rock... Going through the configurator, I've discovered addons I didn't even know I had and ways to configure them! |
| 09:41.09 | Mecdemort | nada |
| 09:41.12 | Ellipsis | ZealotOnAStick: I'm fairly sure he is convinced that it would be nice, just not at the expense of doing as much work as it would actually require :P |
| 09:41.15 | Trell_ | lol, ennuilg |
| 09:41.19 | ZealotOnAStick | Rock-config is entirely overkill and much more effort for many small adjustments. |
| 09:41.40 | cryogen | now try /run AutoBar.ssButtons[1]:SetAttribute("item*", "<shift click hs here>") |
| 09:42.23 | ZealotOnAStick | Ellipsis: how much work would it require? He wrote Dewdrop in the first place. I can't believe it'd be that difficult for him to port it and manage some sort of an optional method/selection of config methods. |
| 09:42.32 | Vires | Trell_: Before you nuke your WTF / whatever, is there a chance we can steal your CowTip config? =p |
| 09:42.43 | Ellipsis | ZealotOnAStick: he'd have to make it compatible with the Rock config tables as it is with AceOptions |
| 09:42.54 | neenee | Vires, does he have a screenshot of it? |
| 09:42.54 | Mecdemort | cryogen: did it, but what am i looking for |
| 09:42.56 | Ellipsis | it's just one more large lib to port and it's not a high priority |
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| 09:43.04 | Vires | That's what I'm wondering.... lol |
| 09:43.07 | ZealotOnAStick | The minimap button, for example, which a large number of people just want to hide at first - you have to open it, find Rock on the large listing, then uncheck the option. For your average user that doesn't know that's what they're looking for . . . |
| 09:43.15 | cryogen | Mecdemort: to see if it makes the button work |
| 09:43.34 | Mecdemort | nope, no change |
| 09:43.35 | ZealotOnAStick | When ckknight's own previous work has them conditioned to having a dropdown menu pop up that they can just click on one option . . . |
| 09:43.41 | Ellipsis | ZealotOnAStick - I'm not disagreeing that it can be hard to get used to, clumsy for certain tasks, or just plain counter-intuitive sometimes |
| 09:43.45 | cryogen | do the popup buttons fail to work too? |
| 09:43.46 | ZealotOnAStick | it's a step backwards in interactivity. |
| 09:43.53 | cryogen | and does someone have a link to the ui changes for 2.2? |
| 09:43.56 | neenee | ZealotOnAStick, agreed. A right-click, perhaps with alt or ctrl held, showing a small popup with 'config' and 'hide button' might help there. |
| 09:44.04 | Mecdemort | all the popups work |
| 09:44.06 | Ellipsis | but from a dev perspective, you've already got your configuration method, another is just icing on the cake |
| 09:44.11 | cryogen | they do? |
| 09:44.12 | cryogen | ah |
| 09:44.18 | cryogen | i wonder |
| 09:44.30 | CIA-22 | 03jerry * r49820 10ItemBonusLib/ItemBonusLib-1.0/ItemBonusLib-1.0.lua: ItemBonusLib: fix CR_DEFENSE pattern in deDE as reported by Feamar. |
| 09:44.33 | neenee | Actually, we had popups and there was a switch to Rock. So Rock is the icing here. |
| 09:44.45 | ZealotOnAStick | even just click vs. right click being two different methods would work great. |
| 09:44.49 | cryogen | there may be some random button obscuring the button you are trying to click on maybe |
| 09:44.49 | ckknight | yea, Ellipsis has it pegged |
| 09:44.56 | ckknight | it's basically low ROI |
| 09:45.05 | Ellipsis | ^-^ |
| 09:45.21 | ZealotOnAStick | what would qualify it as a worthwhile ROI for you, other than cash? |
| 09:45.24 | neenee | Ah well. |
| 09:45.40 | Mecdemort | cryogen: is there a way to simulate clicking the right button to see if it would work |
| 09:45.40 | neenee | No point discussing it further for me. |
| 09:46.03 | cryogen | Mecdemort: not that i know of, someone else here may know of a way |
| 09:46.38 | ckknight | ZealotOnAStick: well, I enjoy a larger user base and all, I just see it as something that users are unlikely to mass-shun |
| 09:46.52 | ckknight | also, sex earns high points wrt ROI |
| 09:47.02 | ZealotOnAStick | well, I don't think I'm your type. |
| 09:47.16 | Ellipsis | sooooooo ckknight...just out of random curiosity...what major airport are you nearest to? |
| 09:47.18 | Mecdemort | will prostitute for UI features? |
| 09:47.34 | ckknight | Ellipsis: HNL |
| 09:47.38 | ckknight | :-P |
| 09:47.52 | ZealotOnAStick | ckknight: a large number of my guild, who have used your addons for a couple of months now, haven't been exposed to Rock until yesterday. |
| 09:47.56 | Mecdemort | probably better to just send him the cost of the ticket |
| 09:48.07 | ckknight | ZealotOnAStick: like frogs in boiling water |
| 09:48.11 | ZealotOnAStick | And uniformly, they were annoyed at not having a simple right-click menu for basics. |
| 09:48.22 | ckknight | they'll get used to it |
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| 09:48.26 | ckknight | that's how I see it |
| 09:48.29 | ckknight | people just fear change |
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| 09:48.39 | ZealotOnAStick | or they'll say "fuck this" and use something else. |
| 09:49.02 | neenee | We have to be glad that ckknight didn't create some weird 3D configuration utility, or we'd all have to get used to that. |
| 09:49.08 | Ellipsis | ZealotOnAStick, if that makes them happy, then they can |
| 09:49.13 | ckknight | basically, neenee |
| 09:49.16 | cryogen | i dont see anything in the ui change list that would break this |
| 09:49.17 | c-pimp | any bongos ppl here, i was wondering, on the paging part i use shift scroll wheel on mouse to switch pages, is there any way to set that up to just flip pages without shift scrolling and only scrolling while my mouse is over it? |
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| 09:49.25 | Trell_ | Ellipsi, how many times did you have log out/in to fix it |
| 09:49.26 | Ellipsis | but I don't think anyone who's experienced the awesomeness of PitBull and FuBar can really be satisfied with anything less :P |
| 09:49.26 | cryogen | but thats not 100% surprising |
| 09:49.30 | ZealotOnAStick | raiders tend to be less patient on such things when they're trying to get their UI back to accustomed usability 10 minutes before we pull. |
| 09:49.33 | Trell_ | i've logged out like 10 times already |
| 09:49.33 | ckknight | ZealotOnAStick: in all honesty, if they're the types to do that, I really don't care about them as users |
| 09:49.36 | cladhaire | c-pimp: You want Tuller |
| 09:49.43 | Ellipsis | Trell_: took me a couple days - sorry :( |
| 09:49.47 | Trell_ | and it's starting to get boring |
| 09:49.53 | ckknight | I'll likely add in dewdrop support later because Antiarc asked nicely, and we have a mutually respectful relationship |
| 09:49.54 | Trell_ | zomg |
| 09:50.04 | c-pimp | tuller? |
| 09:50.05 | Ellipsis | but ckknight, I can ask even more nicely! |
| 09:50.15 | Ellipsis | for only $300 round trip! |
| 09:50.24 | ckknight | ask with your mouth full |
| 09:50.29 | ckknight | Ellipsis: lol |
| 09:50.32 | cryogen | Mecdemort: you can try moving the button to the top left of the screen to see if a) it works there and b) if there is something behind it |
| 09:50.46 | sb | hmm ckk - wtb 3d rock config :p |
| 09:50.51 | mbp | btw., in PitBull, is it possible to get group numbers in raid frames? |
| 09:50.53 | ckknight | lol |
| 09:51.02 | ZealotOnAStick | mbp: sure. |
| 09:51.08 | Ellipsis | hmm... well, $294 left to find |
| 09:51.17 | ZealotOnAStick | just have to add the appropriate dogtag in the text field you want it in. |
| 09:51.18 | mbp | ZealotOnAStick: I must have missed it then. |
| 09:51.20 | ckknight | sb: what I would do before that is to have a tree-like cyclical system, a la Sacrifice's menu system |
| 09:51.30 | ckknight | or NWN |
| 09:51.39 | ckknight | lol, Ellipsis |
| 09:51.44 | Ellipsis | ckknight, you're turning me on again :( |
| 09:51.46 | Mecdemort | cryogen: nada |
| 09:51.52 | cryogen | AutoBar.ssButtons[1]:SetPoint("TOPLEFT", UIParent, "TOPLEFT", 0, 0) shoudl do the trick |
| 09:52.13 | Trell_ | has anyone else got any ideas about what I can do to fix my cache error; I login, everyones naked (yeah, yeah, party time I know) and then it kicks me straight out about 5 seconds later. Most of my skills are ?'s as are all the items in my bag. I've tried deleting cache folder, and restarting and now I'm repeatedly logging in/out to no avail |
| 09:52.14 | cryogen | make sure you move your actual autobar out of the top left first :) |
| 09:52.16 | ZealotOnAStick | ckknight, I'd construct a small altar to worship you if you recreated a radial menu system akin to Sprocket. |
| 09:52.28 | Mecdemort | zomg massive bar... but as soon as i moused over it pulled up the menu and moved the button back |
| 09:52.30 | ckknight | it wouldn't be akin to Sprocket |
| 09:52.32 | ckknight | it'd be pimper |
| 09:52.43 | ckknight | but I tried before (project Cheesewheel) |
| 09:52.47 | ckknight | but it was damn hard |
| 09:52.52 | ckknight | also, I didn't care so much |
| 09:52.54 | Ellipsis | Trell_, honestly...I tried *everything* |
| 09:52.54 | Sole | me and Wobin tried |
| 09:52.55 | ZealotOnAStick | then the altar might get a pimp hat as well. |
| 09:53.00 | Sole | it was damn hard |
| 09:53.03 | cryogen | it must redo the layout every update, bah |
| 09:53.08 | Ellipsis | I searched all over the forums, tried anything I could, and nothing helped |
| 09:53.16 | Trell_ | grrr |
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| 09:53.20 | cryogen | i wonder if the keybindings work |
| 09:53.20 | Ellipsis | it was really frustrating since I wasn't able to raid most of that week |
| 09:53.22 | CIA-22 | 03mallen * r49821 10TradeBar/ (5 files): |
| 09:53.22 | CIA-22 | TradeBar: |
| 09:53.22 | CIA-22 | - added specialications for Alchemy and Tailoring |
| 09:53.22 | CIA-22 | - updated TOC for Patch 2.2 |
| 09:53.25 | cryogen | do you have any set up? |
| 09:53.28 | ckknight | my next project will take up a lot of my time soon |
| 09:53.36 | Ellipsis | <---? |
| 09:53.39 | Gngsk | whuuuut? |
| 09:53.47 | Mecdemort | naw, do i set them in the blizz keybind window |
| 09:53.48 | Sole | what project is that ckk? |
| 09:53.51 | cryogen | ya |
| 09:53.54 | Ellipsis | <---! |
| 09:53.55 | Gngsk | love with ellipsis |
| 09:54.10 | ckknight | Sole: can't say |
| 09:54.11 | ZealotOnAStick | Trell_: you done chkdsk /f and ran the repair utility? (uncheck all the boxes, run the check only only - don't let it reset configs) |
| 09:54.19 | Mecdemort | nope, keybinds dont work |
| 09:54.22 | Ellipsis | nooo ckknight pick me :( |
| 09:54.22 | neenee | It's not love though Gngsk |
| 09:54.30 | Gngsk | lust! |
| 09:54.33 | ckknight | Ellipsis: for? |
| 09:54.34 | Trell_ | I'll try that now Zealot |
| 09:54.35 | abbat_w | neenee, what you nick mean? :) |
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| 09:54.44 | cryogen | so that would rule out a button obscuring i guess |
| 09:54.44 | Ellipsis | for your next project |
| 09:54.45 | cryogen | this is weird |
| 09:54.45 | Ellipsis | :D |
| 09:54.46 | Mecdemort | well, in so much as they dont work on items, i dont know if they dont work in general |
| 09:55.01 | cryogen | you said items work in popups though? |
| 09:55.03 | Ellipsis | nah, I wouldn't want you to put your project aside for anything...even my own benefit :P |
| 09:55.07 | Sole | ckknight: I think youre too pussy to say it |
| 09:55.12 | neenee | abbat_w, 'no no' |
| 09:55.21 | cryogen | so if you have 2 types of food you can mouse over and click the top food entry and it makes you eat it? |
| 09:55.23 | Ellipsis | Sole, leave the guy alone, he has a right to dev in private :P |
| 09:55.27 | Gngsk | Sole, try reverse psychology next! |
| 09:55.28 | Mecdemort | nope |
| 09:55.42 | Mecdemort | it'll popup but still only spells work |
| 09:55.44 | Sole | Ellipsis: he doesnt have rights until I say he can have them |
| 09:55.53 | Ellipsis | he has the @ |
| 09:55.57 | Sole | Gngsk: his puny mind is no match for mine |
| 09:55.58 | abbat_w | neenee, it's sounds like 'ni - ni'. In russian this mean 'no no'. Never think that other languages have the same |
| 09:56.01 | Ellipsis | that makes anything you say now irrelevant and somewhat risky |
| 09:56.02 | Ellipsis | :"P |
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| 09:56.07 | c-pimp | so whats up with the AH delay whats that all about? pending gold LOL |
| 09:56.07 | Ellipsis | s/"// |
| 09:56.08 | cryogen | oh right |
| 09:56.08 | wu-nix | hi |
| 09:56.09 | neenee | abbat_w, :) |
| 09:56.19 | cryogen | i misunderstood that then |
| 09:56.24 | Trell_ | abbat_w - or it could be a thinly disguised monty python reference |
| 09:56.33 | Sole | ckknight: fair nuff |
| 09:56.38 | neenee | No, in this case it's not a Monty Python reference. |
| 09:56.41 | Trell_ | shame |
| 09:56.44 | CIA-22 | 03toadkiller * r49822 10GridStatusMissingBuffs/ (GridStatusMissingBuffs.lua GridStatusMissingBuffs.toc): |
| 09:56.44 | CIA-22 | GridStatusMissingBuffs: |
| 09:56.44 | CIA-22 | -- Updated toc for 2.2 & classified it as a Unit Frame addon |
| 09:56.45 | Sole | ckknight: got msn? |
| 09:56.46 | m4rku5 | guys u need any reports on what addons work with 2.2 which currently still have 2.1 in the .toc ? |
| 09:56.51 | cryogen | Mecdemort: i think it may be undoing everything we do every time you mouse over |
| 09:56.57 | Sole | or aim |
| 09:56.59 | abbat_w | Trell_, never see any monty python. It requires strong english to understand ;( |
| 09:57.00 | cryogen | let me try something with autobar itself |
| 09:57.03 | neenee | If I wanted to reference Monty Python I would have chosen 'nini' |
| 09:57.13 | Trell_ | good point |
| 09:57.20 | Sole | ckknight: this server hates me and I cant register my nick |
| 09:57.22 | Ellipsis | but then you'd be a ninny |
| 09:57.22 | Ellipsis | XD |
| 09:57.30 | ckknight | Sole: oh. |
| 09:57.41 | ckknight | register your nick :-P |
| 09:57.46 | Sole | I try |
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| 09:57.55 | dreamss | any of u guys use Necrosis or an alternative? |
| 09:58.04 | cryogen | Mecdemort: backup autobar, then edit AutoBarButton.lua, find button:SetAttribute("item", itemLink); - change item to item1 and the line above change type to type1 |
| 09:58.07 | Ellipsis | er, what for dreamss? |
| 09:58.13 | dreamss | warlock |
| 09:58.20 | Ellipsis | yes but what feature do you need from it? |
| 09:58.22 | cryogen | save, reloadui, see if it works |
| 09:58.23 | Mecdemort | what is this backup you speak of |
| 09:58.26 | cryogen | :) |
| 09:58.34 | cryogen | just covering my ass :p |
| 09:58.42 | dreamss | just a newer ver |
| 09:58.46 | dreamss | sec cry |
| 09:58.48 | Tekkub | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uSmwJ6OgWko |
| 09:58.57 | dreamss | ultrade edit auto makes backups |
| 09:58.58 | dreamss | :P |
| 09:59.05 | Ellipsis | dreamss: but...what functionality of Necrosis do you need, and/or would you look for in an alternative |
| 09:59.05 | dreamss | uestudio actually |
| 09:59.13 | wu-nix | is there any ace addon that can show me the coords on the big map? something like MapCoords |
| 09:59.22 | neenee | Isn't Henge an alternative to Necrosis? |
| 09:59.24 | Mecdemort | button:SetAttribute("type1", "item"); button:SetAttribute("item1", itemLink); yes? |
| 09:59.25 | Ellipsis | lulz @ Tekkub |
| 09:59.26 | woden | cryogen : is that the autobar fix for not being able to click on it? |
| 09:59.30 | dreamss | 1 menu for all lock functions, summon stones/pets/buffs |
| 09:59.31 | Sole | Henge = all classes |
| 09:59.32 | cryogen | Mecdemort: yeah |
| 09:59.38 | cryogen | woden: its me debugging it, but yes thats the issue |
| 09:59.46 | woden | ah cool |
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| 09:59.54 | Trell_ | i did use a lock Ace2 one, can't remember what it was called, put 8 sqaure buttons on the screen, but I couldn't work out how to move it |
| 09:59.58 | cryogen | im at work so cant log in myself |
| 09:59.58 | woden | also would anyone know why my friend can't see tooltips on his character sheet? |
| 10:00.05 | Mecdemort | hey, that works |
| 10:00.09 | cryogen | it does? |
| 10:00.09 | Ed``` | if he has itemrack woden that may be causing it |
| 10:00.10 | cryogen | neat |
| 10:00.11 | Mecdemort | hurray |
| 10:00.12 | Mecdemort | ya |
| 10:00.12 | dreamss | the one from ace did not have right click demonic dmoniation pet cast |
| 10:00.15 | Ellipsis | dreamss: I use a couple macros |
| 10:00.23 | cryogen | i thought thats what it was |
| 10:00.28 | Ellipsis | HS button, SS button, and pet bar |
| 10:00.28 | woden | ty ed``` |
| 10:00.30 | cryogen | i just got confused by it not working in game :) |
| 10:00.31 | Mecdemort | nice catch |
| 10:00.32 | wu-nix | ok then.. ill use MapCoords.. |
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| 10:00.38 | Ed``` | :) |
| 10:00.39 | dreamss | lol |
| 10:00.42 | cryogen | can someone issue that fix to svn? |
| 10:00.46 | dreamss | how retarded cry |
| 10:00.48 | [AoC]Camci | i got a icon on minimap called Rock.... |
| 10:00.50 | [AoC]Camci | wtf ? |
| 10:00.52 | cryogen | i dont know if its the real "fix" but it works at least |
| 10:00.53 | Mecdemort | ya i will |
| 10:00.54 | dreamss | item to item1? lol |
| 10:00.55 | neenee | trying that Autobar fix now too |
| 10:00.57 | Trell_ | lol [AoC] |
| 10:01.03 | Nickenyfiken | rofl! |
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| 10:01.07 | Ellipsis | >_< |
| 10:01.11 | Nickenyfiken | Hi all |
| 10:01.21 | [AoC]Camci | anyone know?? |
| 10:01.24 | Trell_ | yes |
| 10:01.27 | cryogen | you might want to make the same fix to the other types in that function |
| 10:01.29 | Ellipsis | sigh |
| 10:01.32 | Trell_ | its the configuration for Rock |
| 10:01.33 | [AoC]Camci | says "rock configuration" i press it but nothing happens |
| 10:01.36 | cryogen | itemname, action, macrotext etc |
| 10:01.39 | [AoC]Camci | whats rock? :P |
| 10:01.45 | Ellipsis | [AoC]Camci, did you try /rock |
| 10:01.49 | Nickenyfiken | ~rock |
| 10:01.49 | purl | [rock] an addon framework for World of Warcraft written by ckknight. More information is available at http://wowace.com/wiki/Rock. It is also an object best not thrown in glass houses. what we're all about, it's what we live for, c'mon and shout it out |
| 10:01.50 | [AoC]Camci | no |
| 10:01.50 | Trell_ | erm someone else can explain better than me |
| 10:02.04 | [AoC]Camci | will try.... |
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| 10:02.12 | neenee | cryogen, slot1 too? |
| 10:02.16 | Ellipsis | that reminds me...I need music ^-^ |
| 10:02.25 | Mecdemort | hmm |
| 10:02.29 | Trell_ | Ellipsis, listen to some Razorlight, it's what I've got on atm ;) |
| 10:02.32 | Trell_ | <3 razorlight |
| 10:02.41 | Nickenyfiken | www.death.fm |
| 10:02.47 | cryogen | neenee: no |
| 10:02.49 | Ellipsis | I usually listen to internets radio |
| 10:03.01 | neenee | okay |
| 10:03.02 | cryogen | actually i would leave action alone |
| 10:03.04 | Mecdemort | cryogen: when i checked out the addon, the file is now in PT3? |
| 10:03.13 | Trell_ | ive got a seperate 120g drive for my mp3s; so I never need internet radio :/ |
| 10:03.24 | cryogen | Mecdemort: o_O? |
| 10:03.24 | Ellipsis | I don't download music and my entire HDD is 40gb |
| 10:03.28 | Ellipsis | so...yeah |
| 10:03.36 | Mecdemort | im not sure |
| 10:03.36 | Trell_ | i don't either, mine are all legit rips, of course |
| 10:03.48 | Trell_ | hoho |
| 10:03.55 | Ellipsis | no I mean seriously Trell_ |
| 10:04.02 | Ellipsis | :P |
| 10:04.03 | Trell_ | oh. |
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| 10:04.57 | cryogen | you are looking at http://svn.wowace.com/wowace/trunk/AutoBar/ ? |
| 10:04.57 | [AoC]Camci | ./rock doesnt do a shit |
| 10:04.57 | Ellipsis | yay, Silverchair ^-^ |
| 10:04.57 | [AoC]Camci | it gives me lagg spikes everytime i type /rock |
| 10:04.57 | Mecdemort | doh, it was branches for some reason |
| 10:04.57 | neenee | Yes Mecdemort |
| 10:04.58 | cryogen | ah |
| 10:05.01 | neenee | woops |
| 10:05.18 | Ellipsis | [AoC]Camci it should open up a config window for you |
| 10:05.28 | dreamss | cryogen. item1 type1 and bag1 and slot1? |
| 10:05.37 | cryogen | dreamss: let Mecdemort check it into svn and update :) |
| 10:05.38 | ZealotOnAStick | toadkiller just did a commit a little bit ago, perhaps someone can post about it and he'll fix it hisself? |
| 10:05.52 | cryogen | or that |
| 10:06.04 | cryogen | because my "fix" will probably break right clicks |
| 10:06.22 | cryogen | basically blizzard changed the way clicks are handled with modifiers and whatnot |
| 10:06.32 | [AoC]Camci | Ellipsis, it doesnt :S and i got 11 bug reports from so called Rock |
| 10:06.34 | cryogen | it seems to have broken just not specifying any modifiers |
| 10:07.09 | cryogen | if toadkiller is active, stick a message on the forums with the proposed fix, i gues |
| 10:07.12 | cryogen | s |
| 10:07.13 | dreamss | well ty for looking into it |
| 10:07.28 | cryogen | if you want it fixed right now, edit your autobarbutton.lua and s/type/type1/ |
| 10:07.29 | *** join/#wowace Mech0z (n=Mech0z@client.auwlan.au.dk) |
| 10:07.32 | cryogen | and s/item/item1/ |
| 10:07.35 | cryogen | and leave it at that |
| 10:07.51 | dreamss | i kept bothering me since im used to it |
| 10:07.53 | cryogen | that will at least give you left clicks |
| 10:08.07 | Mecdemort | for all type and item or just the 2 i did? |
| 10:08.14 | cryogen | just the 2 that you did |
| 10:08.20 | dreamss | yeah |
| 10:08.22 | dreamss | ur right |
| 10:08.23 | cryogen | and maybe the 2 underneath, tho im fairly sure that isnt used |
| 10:08.26 | dreamss | no right click |
| 10:08.36 | cryogen | if you want ALL clicks, then try type* and item* |
| 10:08.41 | Ellipsis | ooh...I could almost afford this flight, but I'd have to fly on my birthday...hrm |
| 10:08.44 | Mecdemort | hmm now im not sure which one i changed |
| 10:08.45 | *** join/#wowace bindi (n=indigo@d54C68C7E.access.telenet.be) |
| 10:08.47 | cryogen | i *think* thats the old behaviour that toadkiller wanted |
| 10:08.54 | cryogen | revert it and start again :D |
| 10:09.07 | Mecdemort | lol ill just make sure it still works ingame before commit |
| 10:09.08 | [AoC]Camci | meh someone plx update chartographer :P |
| 10:09.21 | Ellipsis | [AoC]Camci, what is the first error you get |
| 10:09.22 | Jaxon | Whats wrong with it? |
| 10:09.23 | cryogen | i think the best fix to match what it did before would be to use * instead of 1 |
| 10:09.32 | Trell_ | Ellipsis, when you had this problem - did you get kicked out within 5 seconds of logging in every time? |
| 10:09.36 | cryogen | but youd have to test that first |
| 10:09.36 | Ellipsis | yep Trell_ |
| 10:09.41 | Trell_ | ok. |
| 10:09.43 | Ellipsis | well, sometimes it took up to 20sec |
| 10:09.45 | Ellipsis | but yeah, same idea |
| 10:09.55 | Trell_ | just logged on my bank char with no addons just to check it wasn't something to do with tht |
| 10:09.57 | Trell_ | *that |
| 10:10.00 | Trell_ | and it wasn't >_< |
| 10:10.11 | dreamss | man this shows how dependant we are to addons |
| 10:10.12 | dreamss | heh |
| 10:10.18 | neenee | :) |
| 10:10.21 | Trell_ | I can't wait 2 days to get back in |
| 10:10.26 | Trell_ | thats not a viable solution |
| 10:10.30 | neenee | Yup, the do add convenience. |
| 10:10.33 | Mecdemort | cryogen: will do |
| 10:10.34 | Ellipsis | I could probably give you some links to other people reporting the issue Trell_, but I don't think it would be very helpful, there are no clear solutions =[ |
| 10:10.43 | neenee | Why not play naked Trell? |
| 10:10.52 | Sole | http://files.wowace.com/Antagonist/Antagonist-r42180.7.zip |
| 10:10.54 | Trell_ | because you get dc'd staright after logging in |
| 10:10.55 | Ellipsis | neenee, he can't stay logged in |
| 10:10.58 | Trell_ | *straight |
| 10:11.03 | Sole | whats the .7 in the zip name for? |
| 10:11.05 | Mecdemort | how would i test if right clicks work |
| 10:11.10 | Sole | Ive seen it for months now but I dunno what it is |
| 10:11.11 | Ellipsis | Sole - how many times the libs have been updated |
| 10:11.14 | cryogen | ask dreamss, he seems to use it :) |
| 10:11.15 | Trell_ | the thing is, I still see people doing other stuff, like learning recipes etc before I get kicked out |
| 10:11.16 | Sole | Ellipsis: ahh ok |
| 10:11.17 | sb | wah |
| 10:11.35 | Mecdemort | * instead of 1 doesnt work |
| 10:11.35 | Sole | http://files.wowace.com/Antagonist/Antagonist-r37038.1149.zip |
| 10:11.43 | Sole | lol 1149 lib updates |
| 10:11.44 | dreamss | cry what do i use? |
| 10:11.45 | Ellipsis | Trell_: if you want an explanation of exactly what's going on, I can discuss it with you in PM :P |
| 10:12.06 | Trell_ | sure |
| 10:12.15 | Trell_ | a pm from Ellipsis, it's like christmas |
| 10:12.19 | Ellipsis | LOL |
| 10:12.25 | CIA-22 | 03mecdemort * r49823 10AutoBar/AutoBarButton.lua: AutoBar: Possible fix for items. |
| 10:12.35 | Sole | omg |
| 10:12.37 | [AoC]Camci | Ellipsis: |
| 10:12.37 | cryogen | did you leave it at 1? |
| 10:12.38 | [AoC]Camci | [2007/09/26 11:59:07-685-x1]: LibRockConfig-1.0--50360:6185: bad argument #1 to 'max' (number expected, got nil) |
| 10:12.38 | [AoC]Camci | LibRockConfig-1.0--50360:6010: in function <...s\FuBar\libs\LibRockConfig-1.0\LibRockConfig-1.0.lua:5977> |
| 10:12.38 | [AoC]Camci | LibRockConfig-1.0--50360:2731: in function <...s\FuBar\libs\LibRockConfig-1.0\LibRockConfig-1.0.lua:2694> |
| 10:12.38 | [AoC]Camci | <in C code>: in function `Click' |
| 10:12.39 | [AoC]Camci | LibRockConfig-1.0--50360:696: in function `OpenConfigMenu' |
| 10:12.39 | Sole | can I get a PM too? |
| 10:12.41 | [AoC]Camci | LibRockConfig-1.0--50360:6280: in function <...s\FuBar\libs\LibRockConfig-1.0\LibRockConfig-1.0.lua:6276> |
| 10:12.41 | Sole | PLEESE |
| 10:12.43 | [AoC]Camci | ops |
| 10:12.48 | Mecdemort | ya, * wouldnt work |
| 10:13.02 | Nickenyfiken | [AoC]Camci: use ace.pastey.net |
| 10:13.11 | [AoC]Camci | ok :P |
| 10:13.13 | cryogen | i dont understand securestateheader enough to tell you how to get all clicks working properly |
| 10:13.22 | cryogen | but left click is enough to get it working at least :) |
| 10:13.28 | Mecdemort | i dont understand it at all ;p |
| 10:13.31 | cryogen | left click is all ive been using with it so far |
| 10:13.50 | cryogen | TK can fix it himself better if he wants to |
| 10:13.56 | ZealotOnAStick | Sole: it'd really be 149, not 1149 |
| 10:13.59 | Mecdemort | where does it differentiate betwewen left and right clicks |
| 10:14.05 | Sole | ZealotOnAStick: you lie |
| 10:14.07 | cryogen | im not even sure it does |
| 10:14.12 | cryogen | ive never used right click with autobar |
| 10:14.19 | Mecdemort | because with 1, right clicking doesnt do anything at all |
| 10:14.30 | [AoC]Camci | Nicken how does it work? |
| 10:14.33 | ZealotOnAStick | no, for a while they used 1k starting extensions because WAU was stupid, or something. |
| 10:14.35 | [AoC]Camci | i mean how to save? |
| 10:14.35 | Jaxon | Right-click can be used for self cast, before that was implemented into the game itself |
| 10:14.42 | [AoC]Camci | nvm got it |
| 10:14.53 | [AoC]Camci | Ellipsis: http://ace.pastey.net/74430 |
| 10:15.01 | cryogen | ah |
| 10:15.10 | *** join/#wowace karpadnik (i=karpadni@gateway/tor/x-5ff7f898adb35dcf) |
| 10:15.12 | cryogen | im not sure autobar registers for self-cast |
| 10:15.19 | cryogen | if it does, should be fine |
| 10:15.23 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r49824 10LibRockConfig-1.0/LibRockConfig-1.0.lua: LibRockConfig-1.0 - fix possible bug |
| 10:15.43 | Ellipsis | wait wait |
| 10:15.48 | CIA-22 | 03nargiddley * r49825 10Baggins/Baggins.lua: Baggins: Fix Bank Tooltips for 2.2 |
| 10:16.20 | Ellipsis | [AoC]Camci - did you even look on the forums? >_> |
| 10:16.21 | Mecdemort | hmm, ya why doesnt type* work, it should just take any click |
| 10:16.33 | cryogen | not sure |
| 10:16.37 | m4rku5 | can anyone confirm that cartographer is NOT working with 2.2 ? |
| 10:16.38 | cryogen | item might not suppose any click |
| 10:16.41 | cryogen | support |
| 10:16.48 | Mecdemort | lesse-moi tinker |
| 10:16.49 | Ellipsis | Cart is working for me |
| 10:16.53 | [AoC]Camci | Ellipsis: No... i dont even know what it is what addon it is or yea... |
| 10:16.54 | Ellipsis | other than a couple minor glitches |
| 10:17.05 | Ellipsis | [AoC]Camci: it's not an addon, it's the Rock Config menu |
| 10:17.13 | Ellipsis | Rock is a framework, not an addon |
| 10:17.20 | Sole | AceAddon:EmbedLibraries < is this like a mixin? |
| 10:17.23 | [AoC]Camci | why do i have it :x |
| 10:17.24 | *** join/#wowace Trell_ (i=GuNOT@211.Red-83-40-52.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net) |
| 10:17.30 | [AoC]Camci | didnt have it before patch |
| 10:17.37 | Ellipsis | it's the basis for several addons including Cartographer and FuBar |
| 10:17.38 | Trell_ | meh no luck Ellipsis :( |
| 10:17.43 | Ellipsis | you updated your addons, [AoC]Camci |
| 10:17.49 | Ellipsis | Trell_ - =[ |
| 10:18.02 | Ellipsis | try not to get too frustrated with Blizz |
| 10:18.04 | Trell_ | hehe |
| 10:18.10 | Ellipsis | it's not worth the lawsuits...trust me >_> |
| 10:18.10 | [AoC]Camci | i did... so how do i solve this issue? cuz i cant get chartoghrapher to show and i guess its cuz of the rock doesnt open for me ? |
| 10:18.15 | Vires | Wasn't there an Ace mod that let you enter what colors the Apexis Relic did? I googled it but it returned WoWwiki articles =/ |
| 10:18.23 | Ellipsis | [AoC]Camci update again? |
| 10:18.34 | Mecdemort | cryogen: do the buttons register for left and right clicks? |
| 10:18.43 | Sole | Ellipsis: where do you live? this isnt a creepy question..im across the pacific |
| 10:18.47 | cryogen | Mecdemort: let me check |
| 10:18.51 | [AoC]Camci | updated chartographer 5 min ago |
| 10:18.52 | Sole | Ellipsis: is it washington by chance? |
| 10:19.09 | Trell_ | Sole; in ckknights shed |
| 10:19.17 | cryogen | popup buttons do |
| 10:19.21 | cryogen | not sure if the main buttons do |
| 10:19.22 | Nickenyfiken | [AoC]Camci: have you updated all addons using WAU or some other updater? |
| 10:19.29 | Ellipsis | Sole - I am living in California right now, why? |
| 10:19.41 | Sole | Ellipsis: damn youre not her |
| 10:19.46 | SunTsu | Vires: Just do it simple, open a chat line, and use the number pad - so left is 4, up is 8, down is 2 and right is 6, very simple |
| 10:19.54 | [AoC]Camci | Nickenyfiken: I dont know i will check it again.. |
| 10:20.04 | Nickenyfiken | ~wau |
| 10:20.04 | purl | i guess wau is WowAceUpdater, found at http://www.wowace.com/wau/publish.htm - Easy mass update to all the addons you have installed from the Wowace repository, where many Ace addons reside. |
| 10:20.06 | cryogen | Mecdemort: what did right click used to do, i wonder? |
| 10:20.08 | Sole | one guy in my guild is hella whipped/in love with a girl in the guild |
| 10:20.09 | Ellipsis | Sole - I used to live in WA though >_> |
| 10:20.13 | [AoC]Camci | does that count aqUF and bartender3 ? |
| 10:20.16 | Sole | but she lives in fucking washington with her bf |
| 10:20.24 | Sole | so we're like wataf |
| 10:20.28 | cryogen | dreamss: what were you expecing right click to do/ |
| 10:20.29 | Ellipsis | I..um..hope that's not me |
| 10:20.30 | cryogen | ?* |
| 10:20.30 | Mecdemort | cryogen: no idea, but type1 works for left click, and type2 works for right click, but type* doesnt work?! |
| 10:20.35 | Ellipsis | but I can't say for sure based on just that information |
| 10:20.44 | Ellipsis | >_< |
| 10:20.48 | Sole | youre a flirt...could be |
| 10:20.50 | dreamss | self cast |
| 10:20.51 | Ellipsis | lol |
| 10:20.54 | m4rku5 | hmm |
| 10:21.01 | cryogen | Mecdemort: heh. i suspect item is an alias for item* and they broke it in 2.2 :) |
| 10:21.13 | Mecdemort | mayhapps |
| 10:21.21 | cryogen | they rewrote click handling internally |
| 10:21.22 | Ellipsis | I did live in WA until about a year ago - and um, I did flirt with guildies a lot despite having a bf there with me...soooo |
| 10:21.27 | cryogen | according to the ui update thread |
| 10:21.49 | Mecdemort | i suppose i could just add 1 and 2 in by hand, but its so inelegant i cant bring myself to do it |
| 10:21.54 | cryogen | yeah |
| 10:21.55 | [AoC]Camci | Do i need to updated agUF and bartender3 for the Rock thingie ? |
| 10:21.58 | cryogen | and what about button3/4/5 |
| 10:22.00 | [AoC]Camci | update* |
| 10:22.14 | Nickenyfiken | [AoC]Camci: no they don't use Rock |
| 10:22.22 | cryogen | but then it doesnt register for those clicks so its not as important |
| 10:22.28 | [AoC]Camci | ok... but isnt Rock same as DeuseCommander ? |
| 10:22.32 | [AoC]Camci | maybe it isnt... |
| 10:22.40 | Ellipsis | no |
| 10:22.42 | m4rku5 | so erm rock actually does all configuration for my ace addons now ? |
| 10:22.44 | Nickenyfiken | [AoC]Camci: but why don't you just update all addons? |
| 10:22.46 | cryogen | Mecdemort: i suspect you may have to do it that way :/ |
| 10:22.47 | Ellipsis | Rock is not just a configuration menu |
| 10:23.01 | cryogen | at least until someone who knows what they are doing can answer why it behaves like this |
| 10:23.06 | Ellipsis | Rock is a framework (like Ace2, but different) |
| 10:23.09 | Mecdemort | Ellipsis: lies! thats all it is! damnit! |
| 10:23.16 | Ellipsis | lol |
| 10:23.17 | [AoC]Camci | i would lose all settings if i update agUF and bartender3 :/ |
| 10:23.27 | *** join/#wowace alcohol (n=stfu@unaffiliated/paperclip) |
| 10:23.29 | cryogen | Nargiddley: dont suppose you can explain this? :p |
| 10:23.41 | Trell_ | great, i logged in this time to find a naked draenei ass in my face |
| 10:23.47 | Nargiddley | explain what ? |
| 10:23.57 | Mecdemort | [AoC]Camci: why would you lose settings? |
| 10:23.58 | Ellipsis | [AoC]Camci updating your addons doesn't erase their settings |
| 10:24.05 | Ellipsis | Trell_: some guys are into that |
| 10:24.07 | Nickenyfiken | [AoC]Camci: http://www.wowace.com/wiki/Rock |
| 10:24.10 | cryogen | why SetAttribute("item1", foo) works but SetAttribute("item*", foo) doesnt |
| 10:24.19 | m4rku5 | [Ammo], i just updated bartender and i didnt loose my settings |
| 10:24.23 | m4rku5 | erm sorry |
| 10:24.26 | m4rku5 | i ment [AoC]Camci |
| 10:24.26 | dreamss | ok |
| 10:24.30 | dreamss | http://www.ninjalooters.info/dreamss/WoWScrnShot_092607_030943.jpg |
| 10:24.34 | [AoC]Camci | well i updated Prat once, and all the settings i made on that before, just got back to default, same did agUF |
| 10:24.49 | [AoC]Camci | ill try again... |
| 10:24.51 | Ellipsis | [AoC]Camci that should not happen unless you do something very very wrong |
| 10:24.51 | dreamss | any idea what causes my quest track log to look like that? |
| 10:24.57 | Ellipsis | are you using WAU or doing it manually? |
| 10:25.06 | [AoC]Camci | manually |
| 10:25.14 | Ellipsis | derh dreamss o.o |
| 10:25.20 | [AoC]Camci | O.o |
| 10:25.28 | dreamss | i hate having 1000 addons |
| 10:25.29 | Trell_ | use WAU |
| 10:25.31 | Ellipsis | that's an...interesting looking UI |
| 10:25.49 | Nickenyfiken | No that UI is weird :-P |
| 10:25.51 | dreamss | whats wrong with it? |
| 10:25.55 | Sole | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J5z4Vs26-TI&NR=1 |
| 10:25.59 | [AoC]Camci | il try WAU... |
| 10:26.06 | [AoC]Camci | any link i can download it? :P |
| 10:26.13 | Trell_ | ~wau |
| 10:26.13 | purl | wau is, like, WowAceUpdater, found at http://www.wowace.com/wau/publish.htm - Easy mass update to all the addons you have installed from the Wowace repository, where many Ace addons reside. |
| 10:26.16 | dreamss | apart from my quest log tracker frame |
| 10:26.17 | dreamss | :P |
| 10:26.35 | Ellipsis | dreamss: is the player frame supposed to be there? o.O |
| 10:26.36 | Sole | ~ckknight |
| 10:26.36 | purl | rumour has it, ckknight is a strong developer in the Ace community, and a main developer of the Ace2 framework itself as well as the Rock framework, ckknight is best known for such addons as FuBar, Cartographer, PitBull, CowTip, Parrot, and so many more. See ~emulate ckknight for the full story. |
| 10:26.44 | Trell_ | dreamss - everything is all over the place |
| 10:26.49 | Sole | ~emulate ckknight |
| 10:26.50 | purl | I lounge on my bed, pantsless, and code addons |
| 10:26.51 | Trell_ | i think thats the issue Ellipsis has with it |
| 10:26.57 | m4rku5 | damnit |
| 10:26.58 | Sole | ~emulate Tem |
| 10:26.59 | purl | Dammit, that's it. I'm breaking a new [something]! |
| 10:26.59 | Nargiddley | cryogen: probably because theres no code to handle wildcards on that attribute |
| 10:27.02 | Trell_ | however, if you can cope with it, then cool :P |
| 10:27.16 | dreamss | nah its on the right and the player frame dubbs as cast bar |
| 10:27.19 | [AoC]Camci | i cant install WUA.....?? |
| 10:27.22 | [AoC]Camci | lol.. |
| 10:27.27 | Trell_ | are you on vista |
| 10:27.29 | Sole | ~emulate Fisker |
| 10:27.30 | purl | less talking and more fisting please |
| 10:27.30 | [AoC]Camci | XP |
| 10:27.32 | *** join/#wowace Daemona (n=me@c225028.adsl.hansenet.de) |
| 10:27.36 | Sole | ~fisker |
| 10:27.37 | Mecdemort | lol |
| 10:27.38 | Ellipsis | [AoC]Camci there are several other alternatives if WAU doesn't work for you |
| 10:27.40 | Trell_ | whats it saying when you try and install? |
| 10:27.42 | Sole | ~Fisker |
| 10:27.46 | Ellipsis | check out the Updaters forum |
| 10:27.51 | Sole | purl: you suck |
| 10:27.52 | purl | and very well I might add |
| 10:28.01 | Ellipsis | purl is having my babies |
| 10:28.01 | Mecdemort | ~Mecdemort |
| 10:28.07 | cryogen | Nargiddley: do you happen to know where in the blizzard code that would be handled? |
| 10:28.14 | m4rku5 | hey guys is tehre any addons that can help me trace which addons is causing my errors ? |
| 10:28.24 | cryogen | (assuming its in lua and is available) |
| 10:28.32 | Trell_ | swatter, bugsack? I think thats a couple |
| 10:28.35 | Trell_ | I use swatter |
| 10:28.39 | neenee | Hm. Whenever Wing Clip is ready, Parrot tells me 'Survival Tree is Ready' |
| 10:28.40 | Mecdemort | ~emulate Mecdemort |
| 10:28.41 | Nargiddley | SecureTemplates.lua |
| 10:28.42 | Ellipsis | purl, Mecdemort is a noob |
| 10:28.43 | purl | okay, Ellipsis |
| 10:28.50 | Ellipsis | ~Mecdemort |
| 10:28.50 | purl | i guess mecdemort is a noob |
| 10:28.56 | Trell_ | gives a popup window with the errors |
| 10:29.12 | *** join/#wowace Demetrious (n=demetrio@unaffiliated/demetrious) |
| 10:29.16 | Mecdemort | purl, Mecdemort is the uber mage |
| 10:29.16 | purl | ...but mecdemort is already something else... |
| 10:29.22 | dreamss | http://www.ninjalooters.info/dreamss/WoWScrnShot_092507_115920.jpg <-- here is how my ui usually looks like :P no much diff |
| 10:29.23 | Ellipsis | purl, forget Mecdemort |
| 10:29.24 | purl | i forgot mecdemort, Ellipsis |
| 10:29.31 | Mecdemort | purl, Mecdemort is the uber mage |
| 10:29.31 | purl | Mecdemort: okay |
| 10:29.35 | Trell_ | haha |
| 10:29.42 | Ellipsis | purl, Mecdemort is also noob |
| 10:29.43 | purl | Ellipsis: okay |
| 10:29.46 | Ellipsis | ~Mecdemort |
| 10:29.47 | purl | somebody said mecdemort was the uber mage, or noob |
| 10:29.48 | Mecdemort | lol |
| 10:29.49 | Ellipsis | :D |
| 10:29.53 | Trell_ | lmao |
| 10:29.54 | cryogen | # |
| 10:29.54 | cryogen | -- You can also use a wildcard in the place of the modifier or button to denote an attribute |
| 10:29.57 | cryogen | # |
| 10:29.58 | Mecdemort | nice |
| 10:30.00 | cryogen | blizzard lie |
| 10:30.03 | cryogen | -- that is used for any modifier or any button. |
| 10:30.20 | Mecdemort | so how do you get emulate to work |
| 10:30.31 | *** join/#wowace pb_ee1 (n=nospam@83.145.75.66) |
| 10:30.34 | Ellipsis | you have to be cool like ckknight |
| 10:30.47 | ckknight | I'm hip. I'm cool |
| 10:30.51 | *** join/#wowace Peekay (n=potato2k@modemcable079.63-82-70.mc.videotron.ca) |
| 10:30.58 | Ellipsis | and don't forget hot |
| 10:30.59 | Ellipsis | ;D |
| 10:31.11 | Peekay | WTB WAU 2.0 URL |
| 10:31.13 | Peekay | x) |
| 10:31.14 | Ellipsis | ~wau2 |
| 10:31.15 | purl | well, wau2 is http://wowace.com/wau2 |
| 10:31.25 | cryogen | ~emulate cryogen is <reply> I am so cool. |
| 10:31.25 | purl | okay, cryogen |
| 10:31.27 | Peekay | <3 Will remember |
| 10:31.29 | *** join/#wowace Neandre (n=sacha@ANantes-156-1-18-83.w90-12.abo.wanadoo.fr) |
| 10:31.32 | [AoC]Camci | I download WowAceUpdater.application first ? |
| 10:31.39 | [AoC]Camci | and then setup ? |
| 10:31.40 | cryogen | ~emulate cryogen |
| 10:31.41 | purl | I am so cool. |
| 10:31.41 | ckknight | Ellipsis: it was an Austin Powers reference, really |
| 10:31.54 | Ellipsis | ckknight: soz, I fail't |
| 10:32.01 | ckknight | so, um, Ellipsis, you want those pictures of my penis you asked for? |
| 10:32.09 | ckknight | jk |
| 10:32.10 | Ellipsis | um, you forgot the /msg |
| 10:32.13 | Ellipsis | but yeah, sure |
| 10:32.14 | Ellipsis | :P |
| 10:32.34 | CIA-22 | 03deccard * r49826 10MiniChat/ (Core.lua FAQ.txt): |
| 10:32.34 | CIA-22 | MiniChat: |
| 10:32.34 | CIA-22 | - possible fix for the frame shifting issue |
| 10:33.03 | Trell_ | grrr |
| 10:33.05 | dreamss | ckknight, nah no need we can see your epeen all over :P jk |
| 10:33.07 | *** join/#wowace gnor (n=jaydee@cpe-76-170-71-236.socal.res.rr.com) |
| 10:33.08 | Ellipsis | /msg ckknight you want me to upload those nudes now too? |
| 10:33.12 | Ellipsis | oops |
| 10:33.26 | ckknight | dreamss: not just "e" peen anymore! |
| 10:33.29 | Mecdemort | purl emulate Mecdemort is <reply> Nothing like a PoM Pyro in the face. |
| 10:33.29 | purl | okay, Mecdemort |
| 10:33.30 | dreamss | attencion ho |
| 10:33.35 | Ellipsis | ckknight - anymore? |
| 10:33.36 | [AoC]Camci | WUA doesnt work but WUA2 seems to work for me |
| 10:33.37 | dreamss | :P |
| 10:33.39 | Ellipsis | wait...you were a woman before?! |
| 10:33.40 | [AoC]Camci | is it the same ? |
| 10:33.47 | ckknight | ... |
| 10:33.52 | dreamss | i gotta say, ck is a cool dude |
| 10:33.53 | Ellipsis | [AoC]Camci, it's WAU, not WUA |
| 10:33.55 | Trell_ | WAU2 is still beta |
| 10:34.03 | [AoC]Camci | WAU then :) |
| 10:34.13 | Nickenyfiken | Everything around here is beta :-P |
| 10:34.19 | Ellipsis | your mom is beta |
| 10:34.20 | Trell_ | even ck? |
| 10:34.23 | Ellipsis | and I tested her all night |
| 10:34.27 | Nickenyfiken | yes even mom and ck |
| 10:34.28 | *** join/#wowace Busko (n=Bunko@c83-250-141-15.bredband.comhem.se) |
| 10:34.31 | Busko | hi |
| 10:34.45 | Ellipsis | whoa |
| 10:34.46 | ckknight | hey |
| 10:34.49 | Busko | dose anyone know the addon autobar ? |
| 10:34.53 | Ellipsis | I just remembered a dream I had during my nap earlier |
| 10:34.56 | Ellipsis | o.O |
| 10:35.11 | Busko | haveing a small issues with it |
| 10:35.13 | *** part/#wowace Peekay (n=potato2k@modemcable079.63-82-70.mc.videotron.ca) |
| 10:35.13 | Trell_ | im up to about 30 logins now Ellipsis, and I found I can login/out quicker with my guilds rogue bank for speedier disconnects |
| 10:35.14 | dreamss | was it me? |
| 10:35.15 | Ellipsis | actually more of a nightmare, ckknight wasn't in it =[ |
| 10:35.16 | Trell_ | its a lot of fun |
| 10:35.22 | Mecdemort | Busko: whats up? |
| 10:35.25 | Ellipsis | lol Trell_, whatever works for you |
| 10:35.32 | Busko | well it dosent work no more MentalPower|ZzZz |
| 10:35.35 | Busko | ops Mecdemort |
| 10:35.40 | neenee | We know Busko |
| 10:35.48 | cryogen | update to the latest version |
| 10:35.51 | Mecdemort | give it about 20 minutes and update |
| 10:35.56 | Busko | i done |
| 10:35.59 | Trell_ | i think I'm getting withdrawals, Ellipsis, I need help. |
| 10:36.03 | Busko | on even newer update ? |
| 10:36.10 | Ellipsis | Trell_: quick, borrow someone else's computer! |
| 10:36.18 | Trell_ | :( |
| 10:36.20 | cryogen | you need r49823 or later |
| 10:36.33 | Ellipsis | (that's what I did when I had the bug...played on my bf's comp...he wasn't so happy about that :P) |
| 10:36.42 | Trell_ | we're a one computer family |
| 10:36.43 | m4rku5 | is tehre any good replacement for itemrack at wowace ? |
| 10:36.44 | *** join/#wowace Vegeta (n=Vegeta-G@85.8.73.181) |
| 10:36.48 | Ellipsis | ouch Trell_ =[ |
| 10:36.52 | Trell_ | guess I could go play RE4 on my wii |
| 10:36.56 | Nickenyfiken | m4rku5: closetgnome |
| 10:36.57 | Mecdemort | the newest update isnt zipped yet, so give it about 20 minutes |
| 10:36.57 | Ellipsis | m4rku5, I use ClosetGnome |
| 10:36.58 | a^i`SmaN | m4rku5: closetgnome |
| 10:37.00 | Busko | ok cryogen i will update to it |
| 10:37.00 | m4rku5 | ok :D |
| 10:37.01 | m4rku5 | thanks |
| 10:37.02 | Trell_ | closetgnome |
| 10:37.05 | Nickenyfiken | haha |
| 10:37.08 | Ellipsis | Trell_ is late |
| 10:37.10 | Ellipsis | ~fail Trell_ |
| 10:37.11 | purl | Trell_: Fail. |
| 10:37.14 | Trell_ | yeah |
| 10:37.20 | Trell_ | just make me feel even better |
| 10:37.23 | Ellipsis | aww |
| 10:37.24 | dreamss | HEY incase u dint see, its called closetgnome |
| 10:37.24 | dreamss | :P |
| 10:37.42 | Trell_ | as nice as that is, Ellipsis, I'd prefer it if you could get my wow working. |
| 10:37.55 | Trell_ | zomg it works! |
| 10:37.58 | Ellipsis | o rly? |
| 10:37.58 | Trell_ | i wish ;) |
| 10:38.02 | dreamss | no but i can turn water into funk |
| 10:38.03 | Ellipsis | :P |
| 10:38.13 | Vires | Try renaming your WTF folder (not deleting it...) and see if that resolves any issues |
| 10:38.22 | Nickenyfiken | ~hack Trell_s WoW client |
| 10:38.23 | purl | ACTION teaches Trell_s WoW client nethack so that Trell_s WoW client will play until 6 AM |
| 10:38.24 | Ellipsis | Vires, he's done the cache clearing stuff already :P |
| 10:38.47 | Vires | I've had issues in the far past about corrupt WTF data... was odd but clearing it sometimes helps |
| 10:39.00 | Trell_ | what makes it worse, is the fact that I can see I've got mail |
| 10:39.02 | Ellipsis | sometimes is the key word |
| 10:39.04 | Trell_ | it's teasing me |
| 10:39.08 | [AoC]Camci | how could i miss WAU??? all this time i have updated around 100 addons all manually :P |
| 10:39.12 | Jaxon | Trell_: disconnects after a short time? |
| 10:39.16 | Vires | Sometimes is better hope then none, ne? |
| 10:39.19 | Trell_ | yup, and all nakedness |
| 10:39.24 | Ellipsis | Vires, but he already tried :P |
| 10:39.43 | Nickenyfiken | [AoC]Camci: that sucks |
| 10:39.45 | Busko | weee thanx cryogen :P it works :P |
| 10:39.47 | *** join/#wowace Vegeta]BT[ (n=Vegeta-G@85.8.89.151) |
| 10:39.52 | Ellipsis | anyway...any more questions before I get too deep in debugging Trell_? |
| 10:39.54 | Sirow | Which addon can show me the name of the frame I'm mousing over? |
| 10:39.58 | Jaxon | Trell_: naked because your client probably doesn't get the texture info on what to load. But this really sounds like a network issue compared to a WoW issue. |
| 10:39.59 | Ellipsis | wish I could help more >_< |
| 10:40.00 | [AoC]Camci | errr |
| 10:40.02 | Busko | hehe update was posted in the time it took me to find the server name of this server again :P |
| 10:40.11 | [AoC]Camci | why does it add adds i dont have installed ? |
| 10:40.23 | Ellipsis | Jaxon: there is a known but fairly rare issue which causes that problem even without network issues |
| 10:40.24 | Busko | btw anotehr thing is it me or is the sound a bit bugged ? |
| 10:40.33 | Mecdemort | the sound is bugged to all hell |
| 10:40.34 | Trell_ | no, thanks anyway Ellipsis |
| 10:40.40 | Ellipsis | ok Trell_, gl again <3 |
| 10:40.47 | Trell_ | ta |
| 10:40.48 | Busko | yea was doing BS stuff and got no sound there at all |
| 10:41.01 | Busko | and my mage spells sounds like there are totaly broke :O |
| 10:41.08 | dreamss | they added a new sound engine |
| 10:41.10 | Mecdemort | make sure your sound channels is at high or you can barely hear anything |
| 10:41.11 | dreamss | it should be bugged |
| 10:41.41 | neenee | My sound channels are on the lowest |
| 10:42.18 | Mecdemort | somehow if you start vent after wow it makes you sound underwater |
| 10:42.43 | dreamss | thats directsound filters |
| 10:42.46 | dreamss | heh |
| 10:43.05 | [AoC]Camci | i updated with WAU2 for the first time and i got like 50 other maps i didnt have before... working as intented? :P |
| 10:43.20 | Nickenyfiken | [AoC]Camci: It's not addons, it is libraries used by addons that is installed unembedded. You can change that in the settings. |
| 10:43.25 | Nickenyfiken | 50 maps? |
| 10:43.32 | [AoC]Camci | folders sorry |
| 10:43.34 | Ellipsis | [AoC]Camci if by maps you mean libs, then yeah, if you leave your settings at "no externals" |
| 10:43.45 | dreamss | sounds like wau released a fat expac |
| 10:43.49 | dreamss | :P |
| 10:43.53 | Ellipsis | lol |
| 10:43.56 | Ellipsis | that'd be fun |
| 10:44.11 | neenee | I'll try to turn it up now |
| 10:44.20 | neenee | It crashed before I recall |
| 10:44.47 | [AoC]Camci | sorry for all the questions :/ |
| 10:44.59 | evl | Any summary of UI changes anywhere? |
| 10:45.06 | evl | I got a ton of my own addons breaking |
| 10:45.07 | Jaxon | evl: WoW UI forums |
| 10:45.24 | Mecdemort | patch.txt? |
| 10:45.25 | Jaxon | Iriel keeps nice stickied threads. |
| 10:45.27 | Ellipsis | evl - what's breaking for you? |
| 10:45.46 | *** join/#wowace Trell_ (i=GuNOT@90.Red-88-17-87.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net) |
| 10:45.47 | Ellipsis | my stuff managed to escape with minor problems >_> |
| 10:46.02 | [AoC]Camci | but everyone i wanna updated with WAU2 i have to use http://wowace.com/wau2 to open the prog?`cuz it installed something but cant find it again :P |
| 10:46.12 | dreamss | i only had issues with itemrack/rock/autobar |
| 10:46.18 | dreamss | once updated they were money |
| 10:46.19 | [AoC]Camci | evetyime* cant damn type |
| 10:46.23 | [AoC]Camci | everytime* |
| 10:46.27 | evl | Shuld I be using WUA 2.0 or 1.9 btw? |
| 10:46.31 | Mecdemort | i think i had maybe 3 errors, but nothing catastrophic |
| 10:46.31 | Ellipsis | [AoC]Camci - did you try your start menu? >_> |
| 10:46.32 | Fisker- | THIS IS TROLL HEAVEN |
| 10:46.34 | Fisker- | http://forums.wow-europe.com/thread.html?topicId=1016061656&postId=10158902886&sid=1#28 |
| 10:46.40 | Fisker- | i love this guy |
| 10:46.40 | Silviu- | [AoC]Camc u have it on your disc |
| 10:46.41 | Silviu- | ;) |
| 10:46.45 | Ellipsis | THIS...IS...SPARTAAAAAA |
| 10:46.58 | [AoC]Camci | not in start menu or anywhere else :P |
| 10:47.07 | Nickenyfiken | evl: I would say 1.9 if you are on windoze |
| 10:47.16 | Nickenyfiken | else i would use WAU2 |
| 10:47.35 | Silviu- | WowAceUpdater2 |
| 10:47.40 | Silviu- | Find |
| 10:47.41 | Silviu- | :D |
| 10:47.46 | Nickenyfiken | [AoC]Camci: it will start if you click the install link again |
| 10:47.48 | Silviu- | Or u can right click on it in page |
| 10:47.48 | dreamss | fyi fisker has rabbies |
| 10:47.50 | Silviu- | save target as |
| 10:47.56 | [AoC]Camci | ah yea it did :) thanks :P |
| 10:48.01 | cryogen | right id better get on with some work |
| 10:48.04 | cryogen | happy autobaring :p |
| 10:48.05 | Mecdemort | ~sparta |
| 10:48.05 | purl | This is madness! |
| 10:48.21 | Nickenyfiken | ~wow |
| 10:48.21 | purl | I have no life | Lets go raid! |
| 10:48.27 | Nickenyfiken | rofl |
| 10:48.31 | Mecdemort | hurrah |
| 10:48.31 | Silviu- | ~seen nevcariel |
| 10:48.34 | purl | i haven't seen 'nevcariel', Silviu- |
| 10:48.50 | Silviu- | ~seen Nevcairiel |
| 10:48.51 | purl | nevcairiel is currently on #wowi-lounge (1d 3h 3m 37s) #wowace (1d 3h 3m 37s). Has said a total of 13 messages. Is idling for 12h 36m, last said: 'BankZ: if you are playing with sound .. the new sound system should be easier on performance.'. |
| 10:48.57 | [AoC]Camci | ok so, is it good to have this "libs" updated or is it useless? |
| 10:48.58 | Nickenyfiken | ~seen purl |
| 10:48.59 | purl | purl is currently on #casualti (4d 16h 53m 28s) #botpark (4d 16h 53m 28s) #linuxfund (4d 16h 53m 28s) #wowi-lounge (4d 16h 53m 28s) #edev (4d 16h 53m 28s) #fossfund (4d 16h 53m 28s) #hosernet (4d 16h 53m 28s) #norganna (4d 16h 53m 28s) #ud (4d 16h 53m 28s) #dub (4d 16h 53m 28s) ... |
| 10:48.59 | m4rku5 | haha closetgnome is really funny ;) |
| 10:49.05 | Mecdemort | ~sleep |
| 10:49.06 | purl | somebody said sleep was overrated, and a poor substitute for caffeine. |
| 10:49.07 | vhaarr | :) |
| 10:49.12 | Silviu- | [AoC]Camc it`s good |
| 10:49.17 | Silviu- | Hmm ... |
| 10:49.17 | Ellipsis | grrrr |
| 10:49.25 | [AoC]Camci | okey then i wont change the settings :) |
| 10:49.40 | Ellipsis | somehow my UI seems to be ignoring my code altogether and running code that doesn't exist instead |
| 10:49.42 | Ellipsis | >_> |
| 10:49.43 | Nickenyfiken | [AoC]Camci: having libs in your wow folder may improve your login time a bit. |
| 10:49.45 | Silviu- | Nevcairiel gogog move branches to trunk from Bt3 :P |
| 10:49.55 | [AoC]Camci | oh, did not know that |
| 10:50.05 | Trell_ | the REALLY annoying thing about patch day today (eu) is that everything seemed to look fine addon wise; just this fecking cache bug |
| 10:50.20 | *** join/#wowace Chompers (n=Chomp@cpc2-cove7-0-0-cust20.brhm.cable.ntl.com) |
| 10:50.21 | Trell_ | if it wasn't for that, It'd be awesome |
| 10:50.27 | alcohol | ? |
| 10:50.28 | Silviu- | Cache bug ? |
| 10:50.35 | Trell_ | meh |
| 10:50.40 | abbat_w | naked chars? |
| 10:50.46 | Trell_ | everyones naked, and all my items are ?'s |
| 10:50.54 | abbat_w | removing cache won't work? |
| 10:50.55 | Trell_ | and ive tried everything |
| 10:51.01 | Nickenyfiken | [AoC]Camci: but really you don't have to care about your addon folder. You can install and uninstall addons directlry from WAU if you want. |
| 10:51.07 | Xinhuan | ~purl |
| 10:51.08 | purl | it has been said that purl is emo |
| 10:51.15 | Xinhuan | ~~~~ |
| 10:51.16 | purl | ARGH!!! STOP IT xinhuan!!! |
| 10:51.16 | Trell_ | purl, lol |
| 10:51.17 | purl | extra, extra, read all about it, lol is stands for Laughs Out Loud. It is grammatically incorrect to use LOL in the first person; use 'heh' or 'haha' instead. If you want to use LOL, do '/me lol' instead. |
| 10:51.18 | Nickenyfiken | haha |
| 10:51.21 | *** join/#wowace packetlss (n=packetls@65.110.63.200) |
| 10:51.23 | [AoC]Camci | Nickenyfiken: ok thank you, first time i use it... |
| 10:51.32 | [AoC]Camci | will see if Rock thingie works now :) |
| 10:52.03 | Ellipsis | ~emo |
| 10:52.06 | Ellipsis | =[ |
| 10:52.19 | neenee | Hm.. Time to add a health percentage to Cowtip |
| 10:52.21 | Nickenyfiken | ~whalecrit Ellipsis |
| 10:52.22 | purl | ACTION crits Ellipsis with a mathematically skilled whale named Isaac for #NaN. Ellipsis dies |
| 10:52.27 | Ellipsis | ouch |
| 10:52.30 | Sole | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0LcjXJZQ8MM |
| 10:52.42 | Mecdemort | purl emo is see blood elves |
| 10:52.42 | purl | okay, Mecdemort |
| 10:52.57 | Mecdemort | ~emo |
| 10:52.58 | purl | extra, extra, read all about it, emo is see blood elves |
| 10:53.05 | Fisker- | this is so great |
| 10:53.13 | Mecdemort | hmm that didnt work as i expected |
| 10:53.16 | Nickenyfiken | Sole: hahahahaha |
| 10:53.28 | Chompers | hai Fisker- |
| 10:53.31 | [AoC]Camci | Wohoo no errors/bugs ! |
| 10:53.31 | Fisker- | this guy is saying that his opinion matters because with his level he can say he's in the end-game and that his opinion matters |
| 10:53.38 | Ellipsis | purl, no, emo is <reply> /wrists |
| 10:53.39 | purl | Ellipsis: okay |
| 10:53.39 | Fisker- | yet their guild hasn't cleared karazhan yet |
| 10:53.40 | Fisker- | :D |
| 10:53.42 | Ellipsis | ~emo |
| 10:53.42 | purl | /wrists |
| 10:53.50 | Mecdemort | lol |
| 10:53.52 | Mecdemort | nice |
| 10:53.59 | *** join/#wowace Wogroipl (n=chatzill@86.92.54.193) |
| 10:54.00 | Chompers | 2.2 applied to eu servers yet? |
| 10:54.10 | Chompers | or is that tonight |
| 10:54.13 | Codayus | Hey, pug 10 man baron raids were endgame pre-tbc right? |
| 10:54.35 | neenee | er, long ago |
| 10:54.38 | neenee | long looong ago |
| 10:54.39 | Xinhuan | ~EMO |
| 10:54.40 | purl | /wrists |
| 10:54.40 | Ellipsis | I think I have a problem |
| 10:54.40 | neenee | before ZG |
| 10:54.47 | Codayus | :-) |
| 10:54.58 | Ellipsis | I just bound a key to /console gxrestart because of all the graphical glitches WoW gives me |
| 10:54.58 | Ellipsis | :| |
| 10:55.14 | Nickenyfiken | Anyone know if there is a addon like ItemValue that is "better"? |
| 10:55.24 | Mecdemort | is there a list of console commands anywhere |
| 10:55.28 | Ellipsis | I was going to write a little FuBar button for it, but I realized I use it too much to have to go clicky it >_> |
| 10:55.30 | neenee | wowwiki? |
| 10:55.44 | Xinhuan | purl, WoWEquip is an in-game CT-profiles-like WoW addon written by Xinhuan. |
| 10:55.44 | purl | okay, Xinhuan |
| 10:55.49 | Xinhuan | ~wowequip |
| 10:55.49 | purl | rumour has it, wowequip is an in-game CT-profiles-like WoW addon written by Xinhuan. |
| 10:55.58 | Ellipsis | ~Xinhuan |
| 10:56.02 | cryogen | Mecdemort: worth noting that TK has been posting on the ace forums about autobar |
| 10:56.04 | Ellipsis | mwahaha |
| 10:56.09 | Ellipsis | such an opportunity |
| 10:56.09 | cryogen | i think he's a USian and probably asleep now |
| 10:56.14 | cryogen | i'll leave a small not ein the thread |
| 10:56.27 | Nickenyfiken | Xinhuan: does WoWEquip support AEP formulas? |
| 10:56.46 | Xinhuan | Nickenyfiken: no, but i can add in a plugin for that |
| 10:57.01 | Xinhuan | is there a AEP addon i can call to get the AEP value of an itemlink? |
| 10:57.50 | evl | no |
| 10:57.54 | Nickenyfiken | Well it is easy i guess... if you already have the item stats |
| 10:58.05 | evl | and it would be stupid because your AEP calculations change as to what other gear you are using |
| 10:58.16 | evl | go check elitistjerks and the gear spreadsheet |
| 10:58.18 | Nickenyfiken | its just like AEP = 2 x str + 1.4 x int for example |
| 10:58.24 | Mecdemort | i cant find console commands anywhere on wowiki |
| 10:58.24 | Xinhuan | well i'm not going to implement dozens of random arbitrary formulas that calculate AEP, HEP, TankPoints, HealPoints, etc |
| 10:58.38 | Xinhuan | what i want is a function in some addon that returns me the calculated value |
| 10:59.02 | CIA-22 | 03haarm * r49827 10Aperture/ (. Aperture.toc libs/): |
| 10:59.02 | CIA-22 | Aperture: |
| 10:59.02 | CIA-22 | - Updated toc, fiddled externals. |
| 10:59.20 | Nickenyfiken | Xinhuan: check ItemValue. Maybe you can borrow a function from it. |
| 10:59.32 | Xinhuan | ok |
| 10:59.51 | Xinhuan | is that an addon? |
| 11:00.20 | Ellipsis | yes |
| 11:00.49 | Ellipsis | why must you include statusbar textures?! WHY?! |
| 11:01.21 | Ellipsis | that's 10 texture files I'll never use, nearly 300KB of files I DON'T WANT |
| 11:01.39 | evl | I never got why textures aren't included in SharedMediaLib :P |
| 11:01.52 | Xinhuan | because everyone would add textures to SML |
| 11:01.55 | Xinhuan | and it'll bloat |
| 11:02.15 | Ellipsis | oh and look |
| 11:02.17 | Xinhuan | now if individual addon authors simply register their textures to a SML library, then all other addons can just use them |
| 11:02.20 | Ellipsis | 10 textures in oRA2 |
| 11:02.27 | Ellipsis | half of which are duplicates of the ones in XRS |
| 11:02.36 | Xinhuan | so textures provided by 1 addon == usable by all |
| 11:02.37 | Nickenyfiken | Hmm maybe it's not that easy do calc AEP after all. |
| 11:02.53 | Ellipsis | but that's not how it should work Xinhuan |
| 11:02.57 | Ellipsis | addons should not provide textures |
| 11:03.18 | Ellipsis | they should default to Blizz statusbar if SML is missing, and not provide any "default" texture |
| 11:03.23 | Xinhuan | but addons do provide textures for their frames - swstats, xperl, etc use their own textures to give it their own unique look |
| 11:03.31 | cryogen | Mecdemort: i left him a little note and blamed you, fyi :) |
| 11:03.38 | Ellipsis | new textures should be added through SharedMedia/MyMedia only |
| 11:03.39 | Ellipsis | >_> |
| 11:03.41 | Mecdemort | diaf? |
| 11:03.45 | cryogen | :D |
| 11:03.59 | cryogen | kidding! |
| 11:05.15 | Mecdemort | man im too tired to care about anything right now, i think i've passed the point of being so tired you cant go to sleep |
| 11:05.24 | cryogen | heh |
| 11:05.32 | cryogen | sleep is good |
| 11:07.27 | the-golem | !c us drak'thul rhianwyn |
| 11:07.38 | the-golem | :-( |
| 11:07.39 | ThraeBot | the-golem: Rhianwyn, Level 20 Night Elf Hunter (0/7/3). 542 HP; 786 Mana; 51 mana regen; 25.900 Melee DPS; 5.83% melee crit; 26.30 Ranged DPS; 11.63% ranged crit; 8.49% dodge; 10 nature resist (+10);[[ TBR: 217 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/yrjend ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/2l3q3a ][ Updated: Wed Sep 26 07:22:13 2007 EST ]] |
| 11:07.53 | the-golem | bah thats old |
| 11:09.43 | abbat_w | !c eu warsong immoralist |
| 11:09.54 | ThraeBot | abbat_w: Immoralist, Level 70 Undead Mage (0/7/54). 10163 HP; 8501 Mana; 125 mana regen; 125 spell crit; 41 spell hit; 856 +spell dmg/heal; 54 frost dmg (910); 54 shadow dmg (910); 4.94% dodge; 427 resilience; 10 shadow resist (+10);[[ TBR: 1425 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/yqwmvu ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/3agm7k ][ Updated: Wed Sep 26 07:24:31 2007 EST ]] |
| 11:09.59 | Fisker- | http://forums.wow-europe.com/thread.html?topicId=1016061656&postId=10158903068&sid=1#49 |
| 11:10.31 | abbat_w | ah, i should login and logout for new data |
| 11:10.33 | abbat_w | ergh ;( |
| 11:11.17 | CIA-22 | 03silviu * r49828 10Cartographer_Herbalism/Cartographer_Herbalism.toc: Cartographer_Herbalism: Update toc 20200 |
| 11:11.48 | harldephin | hola |
| 11:12.02 | Busko | lol |
| 11:12.12 | Busko | anyone have issues with the blizzard raid ui ? |
| 11:12.21 | Ellipsis | !c US Cenarius Ellipsis |
| 11:12.32 | ThraeBot | Ellipsis: Ellipsis, Level 70 Human Warlock (43/0/18). 7450 HP; 7810 Mana; 148 mana regen; 12 mp5; 38 spell crit; 58 spell hit; 434 +spell dmg/heal; 179 frost dmg (613); 179 shadow dmg (613); 4.36% dodge;[[ TBR: 885 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/2folt3 ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/2s456h ][ Updated: Wed Sep 26 07:27:08 2007 EST ]] |
| 11:13.08 | Ellipsis | ick, I'm so noob >_< |
| 11:13.22 | aestil | ok ellipsis, ima go to work. you fix my eePanels for me. kkthx. |
| 11:13.30 | Ellipsis | ksend :P |
| 11:13.37 | SunTsu | !c eu Nozdormu Rathragos |
| 11:13.46 | ThraeBot | SunTsu: Rathragos, Level 70 Night Elf Druid (0/47/14). 8654 HP; 4550 Mana; 111 mana regen; 1150 AP; 164.300 Melee DPS; 23.58% melee crit; 164 melee hit; 27.21% dodge; 10 nature resist (+10);[[ TBR: 598 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/2687mk ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/352lbn ][ Updated: Wed Sep 26 07:28:24 2007 EST ]] |
| 11:13.57 | Ellipsis | aestil, hf at work, and remember life is worth living without eePanels! |
| 11:14.00 | aestil | !c us Aestil Darkspear |
| 11:14.03 | ThraeBot | aestil: Darkspear is not the character you are looking for! |
| 11:14.05 | CIA-22 | 03silviu * r49829 10ClearFont2/ClearFont2.toc: ClearFont2: Update toc 20200 |
| 11:14.16 | aestil | !c us Darkspear Aestil |
| 11:14.24 | ThraeBot | aestil: Aestil, Level 70 Dwarf Priest (19/0/42). 8381 HP; 9420 Mana; 179 mana regen; 35 mp5; 86 spell crit; 172 spell hit; 974 +spell dmg/heal; 54 frost dmg (1028); 113 shadow dmg (1087); 4.82% dodge; 18 resilience; 10 frost resist (+10);[[ TBR: 1370 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/2esnp5 ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/2wz9bp ][ Updated: Wed Sep 26 07:29:03 2007 EST ]] |
| 11:14.27 | [AoC]Camci | Anyone know when Omen is being done with the beta? |
| 11:14.46 | Ellipsis | [AoC]Camci it already is out of beta, why? |
| 11:15.37 | Ellipsis | oh snap, I know why my textures aren't working |
| 11:15.53 | CIA-22 | 03silviu * r49830 10cyCircled/cyCircled.toc: cyCircled: Update toc 20200 |
| 11:16.02 | Ellipsis | note to self: when switching to new versions of libs and removing the old one, start using the new one in code as well |
| 11:16.08 | CIA-22 | 03celellach * r49831 10AtlasLoot_RepFactions/rep.lua: |
| 11:16.08 | CIA-22 | AtlasLoot_RepFactions: |
| 11:16.08 | CIA-22 | - Removed the "Patch 2.2" tag |
| 11:17.08 | CIA-22 | 03silviu * r49832 10cyCircled_Vol/cyCircled_Vol.toc: cyCircled_Vol: Update toc 20200 |
| 11:17.43 | abbat_w | !!! |
| 11:17.45 | [AoC]Camci | Ellipsis: didnt know it was... now we can switch from shitty KTM :P |
| 11:17.48 | abbat_w | most used mod updated ;) |
| 11:17.56 | abbat_w | Silviu :-* |
| 11:18.09 | Ellipsis | [AoC]Camci it's not perfect, but nothing ever is |
| 11:18.31 | Ellipsis | abbat_w - it's just a TOC bump, relax :P |
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| 11:18.46 | abbat_w | Ellipsis, i see ;) |
| 11:18.52 | CIA-22 | 03silviu * r49833 10MobHealth/MobHealth.toc: MobHealth: Update toc 20200 |
| 11:18.59 | Silviu- | :) |
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| 11:20.01 | Imp4kT | Anyone else have the problem that they cant see estimated heals on their target frame anymore, with Pitbull? |
| 11:20.28 | Ellipsis | wheeeeeeeee I made my PitBull bars invisible |
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| 11:21.56 | CIA-22 | 03silviu * r49834 10Metrognome/Metrognome.toc: Metrognome: Update toc 20200 |
| 11:22.13 | Srosh | Hope you only up the toc after checking that it works as intended on 2.2 |
| 11:22.24 | Silviu- | Yep :) |
| 11:22.45 | Silviu- | I did before of this :) |
| 11:23.03 | Silviu- | And i did only on addons that authors won`t modify them so offen |
| 11:23.36 | Imp4kT | Hmm it works when I do it to myself but it doesnt come up for raid members |
| 11:23.37 | Imp4kT | :/ |
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| 11:23.51 | Silviu- | For example, ckknight can update his Durability and Money fu they work, or Waterfall Ebbs they also work but i leave toc untouched |
| 11:25.32 | Nickenyfiken | Isn't Metrognome deprecated? |
| 11:25.47 | Silviu- | Some addons still use it |
| 11:26.02 | Silviu- | EavesDrop for example |
| 11:26.15 | Ellipsis | and FuBar_DPS |
| 11:26.18 | Nickenyfiken | Ok |
| 11:26.18 | Ellipsis | >_> |
| 11:26.31 | Nickenyfiken | Some old libs should be removed and addons fixed |
| 11:26.45 | Nickenyfiken | Useless to have both Sink and Soar running too |
| 11:26.48 | Silviu- | True |
| 11:26.51 | Nickenyfiken | I have one addon using Soar i think |
| 11:26.57 | Nickenyfiken | Just silly |
| 11:27.02 | Silviu- | Talk to author |
| 11:27.11 | Silviu- | I tryed ask him in forums remove Metrognome |
| 11:27.14 | Silviu- | But no answer |
| 11:27.33 | Ellipsis | I managed to get rid of Soar |
| 11:27.45 | Nickenyfiken | branch is and remove Metrognome |
| 11:27.51 | Silviu- | At me EavesDrop and ShardAce still use Metro |
| 11:27.53 | Industrial | ^ |
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| 11:27.56 | *** mode/#wowace [+v KarlThePagan] by ChanServ |
| 11:28.06 | Nickenyfiken | TopScoreFu use Soar i think |
| 11:28.41 | Industrial | heh I just had a flashback |
| 11:29.02 | Industrial | we used to download the whole trunk into a directory and update it when there was a change |
| 11:29.05 | Industrial | :P |
| 11:29.24 | Silviu- | ^^ |
| 11:29.30 | Silviu- | Indi ... try it now |
| 11:29.31 | Industrial | well you know, with 25 addons thats not that bad :P |
| 11:29.33 | Silviu- | With so many there |
| 11:29.33 | Silviu- | ;p |
| 11:30.14 | Ellipsis | argh |
| 11:30.17 | Ellipsis | I keep typing /rl in this window |
| 11:30.19 | Ellipsis | >_> |
| 11:31.25 | *** part/#wowace Plem[Hellion] (i=b9538@89-178-181-133.broadband.corbina.ru) |
| 11:31.32 | Nickenyfiken | haha |
| 11:32.15 | Silviu- | ^^ |
| 11:32.19 | Silviu- | And works ? |
| 11:32.19 | Silviu- | :D |
| 11:33.25 | Ellipsis | Blizzard, I promise LibStub is not a nil value |
| 11:33.43 | Jaxon | I am very impressed with the new Auctioneer |
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| 11:34.12 | *** part/#wowace Plem[Hellion] (i=b9538@89-178-181-133.broadband.corbina.ru) |
| 11:34.24 | sb | hmm new auctioneer? |
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| 11:34.59 | Jaxon | They've got 5.0 up in whatever stage of their release cycle it is in, gamma foxtrot tango or something. |
| 11:35.50 | Industrial | lmao |
| 11:36.00 | Industrial | addon comm channels can be locked/passworded? |
| 11:36.06 | Industrial | thats hilarious |
| 11:36.51 | Nickenyfiken | hehe |
| 11:37.13 | Nickenyfiken | Yeah i really like the new Auctioneer too. |
| 11:37.57 | Trell_ | Sublime - Santeria is such an awesome tune |
| 11:38.07 | Jaxon | Industrial: you've always been able to password the Social chat channels. |
| 11:38.12 | Industrial | ~seen Fin |
| 11:38.13 | purl | fin <i=PJIRCUse@r5da17.net.upc.cz> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 10d 12h 36m 31s ago, saying: 'nope... this sucks the hard one, it's quite good but well, no'. |
| 11:38.34 | Gngsk | oh man, the new dwarven inn music is great |
| 11:38.57 | *** join/#wowace Kalroth (n=kalroth@0x573f1066.hjnqu1.broadband.tele.dk) |
| 11:40.17 | Chompers | how odd, mounting up disconnects me |
| 11:40.30 | Chompers | guess i'll walk instead |
| 11:40.30 | Trell_ | think yourself lucky Chompers |
| 11:40.33 | Trell_ | logging in disconnects me |
| 11:41.22 | Nickenyfiken | You got serious problems. |
| 11:41.33 | Trell_ | tell me something I don't know |
| 11:41.37 | Nickenyfiken | I updated all addons then logged in right after patch and i had no problems |
| 11:42.16 | Trell_ | its nothing to do with the addons; its the fact that im querying the server for item info, and not getting it back or something, so the requests pile up, and it eventually dcs me |
| 11:42.21 | Trell_ | apparently |
| 11:42.44 | Ellipsis | aka the cache bug :P |
| 11:42.48 | Trell_ | yah |
| 11:42.50 | Trell_ | that beauty |
| 11:42.56 | *** join/#wowace _neuron_ (n=x@85.252.67.93) |
| 11:43.05 | Trell_ | but its a lot of fun sitting here logging in and out |
| 11:43.15 | Nickenyfiken | ehm why do you query item info then? |
| 11:43.21 | Trell_ | im not |
| 11:43.39 | Trell_ | everyones naked - becuase im not receiving any item info |
| 11:44.01 | Xinhuan | wow automatically queries the server for every item on everyone near you within 100 yards |
| 11:44.07 | Chompers | now the cache bug |
| 11:44.09 | Chompers | horay! |
| 11:44.11 | Xinhuan | just logging in will populate your local cache |
| 11:44.21 | Xinhuan | standard wow behavior |
| 11:44.22 | Grum | Xinhuan: it does? that's quite a nice feature |
| 11:44.29 | Ellipsis | Grum, if it didn't they'd all be naked |
| 11:44.30 | Nickenyfiken | So what is the problem? |
| 11:44.32 | Xinhuan | its been like this for over 2 years |
| 11:44.35 | Nickenyfiken | If it is normal behavior |
| 11:44.37 | Grum | is that also the reason big cities are so much slower? |
| 11:44.39 | Ellipsis | Nickenyfiken: there's a glitch that makes the info not return |
| 11:44.41 | Xinhuan | you merely chose to log in at a populated area |
| 11:44.47 | Grum | Ellipsis: i prefer that, you should know |
| 11:44.49 | Ellipsis | so everyone appears naked and your inventory is full of ?s |
| 11:44.56 | Trell_ | Xinhuan; it makes no difference where I log in |
| 11:45.02 | Trell_ | I've tried several characters |
| 11:45.13 | Xinhuan | delete your cache folder then |
| 11:45.15 | Xinhuan | and try again |
| 11:45.15 | Ellipsis | generally when you get that bug you also get disconnected very soon after logging in |
| 11:45.18 | Nickenyfiken | Just delete all your data folders? |
| 11:45.18 | Xinhuan | could be corrupted cache |
| 11:45.20 | Trell_ | I hadn't tried that |
| 11:45.26 | Xinhuan | delete cache\enUS |
| 11:45.32 | Trell_ | </sarcasm> |
| 11:45.36 | Ellipsis | guys, he's kidding. deleting the cache doesn't always fix it. |
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| 11:45.57 | Xinhuan | well if nothing is working, it won't hurt trying it right? |
| 11:45.57 | Trell_ | Xinhuan; I've tried everything, WTF, Cache, restarting, flushdns, rebooting router |
| 11:46.00 | Kalroth | update your netcard drivers! |
| 11:46.03 | cncfanatics | hello ppl |
| 11:46.04 | Ellipsis | Xinhuan, he tried it already |
| 11:46.09 | Trell_ | I have tried it Xin, I was being sarcastic |
| 11:46.09 | Xinhuan | the people in my guild say that rebooting their computer works |
| 11:46.14 | Xinhuan | for some reason |
| 11:46.16 | Grum | sell your firstborn |
| 11:46.20 | Ellipsis | when I had that glitch, *nothing* fixed it |
| 11:46.21 | Trell_ | I've rebooted twice |
| 11:46.21 | Xinhuan | while nothing else works |
| 11:46.22 | Tuikku | Trell_: i had the same issue... Had to modify network adapter settings |
| 11:46.22 | Grum | make Ellipsis share pics |
| 11:46.31 | Trell_ | Tuikku, can you explain more? |
| 11:46.33 | cncfanatics | what glitch u guys talking about ? |
| 11:46.38 | Ellipsis | cncfanatics: cache bug |
| 11:46.43 | Tuikku | from advanced settings disable Cheksum Offload |
| 11:46.47 | *** join/#wowace karim (i=nouRI@dslc-082-082-098-107.pools.arcor-ip.net) |
| 11:46.53 | karim | ey |
| 11:46.59 | Nickenyfiken | Isn't it support thread concerning this on WoW forums? |
| 11:47.05 | Tuikku | yeah |
| 11:47.05 | Ellipsis | there's several, Nickenyfiken |
| 11:47.11 | karim | wie änder ich das verzeichnniss von meinen ace updater ? |
| 11:47.27 | Ellipsis | karim - english? |
| 11:47.31 | SunTsu | karim: First by talking english |
| 11:47.33 | neenee | Englisch bitte |
| 11:47.36 | Kalroth | Checksum Offload is the work of a wowace develo, errr, the devil! |
| 11:47.57 | Nickenyfiken | karim: ich bin geil! |
| 11:47.57 | Ellipsis | little known fact, the devil actually has a svn account on wowace |
| 11:48.18 | JoshBorke | little known fact? i tohught it was quite obvious |
| 11:48.22 | Tuikku | http://faq.wow-europe.com/en/article.php?id=028 |
| 11:48.24 | karim | |
| 11:48.24 | karim | how change I draw-eat of my ace more updater? |
| 11:48.28 | Kalroth | Speaking of which, is it ok to start rock vs ace2 flamewars in here? |
| 11:48.35 | Nickenyfiken | rofl |
| 11:48.36 | JoshBorke | Kalroth: no |
| 11:48.40 | Kalroth | aw |
| 11:48.40 | neenee | That was an interesting sentence |
| 11:48.59 | JoshBorke | karim: are you using the newest version of wowace update? |
| 11:49.09 | Kalroth | JoshBorke: Even if I hide it in a clever and seemingly innocent sentence? |
| 11:49.11 | karim | wait ^^ |
| 11:49.13 | neenee | I think he's trying to chance the location of his ace updater. |
| 11:49.21 | neenee | The folder it's in |
| 11:49.24 | Nickenyfiken | Kalroth: what's the point? |
| 11:49.35 | cncfanatics | Kalroth, die in a fire |
| 11:49.39 | SunTsu | karim: Ever tried just moving the directory? |
| 11:49.39 | neenee | karim - install WoWAceUpdater using Internet Explorer and it will install properly |
| 11:49.43 | Kalroth | Nickenyfiken: It's a flamewar, they don't have a point. |
| 11:49.54 | karim | 1.9.43.568 i use this version |
| 11:50.08 | Kalroth | karim: Get a newer version. |
| 11:50.08 | _rane | what happened to pitbull portraits? :( |
| 11:50.12 | Ellipsis | trolling Kalroth is trolling ;_; |
| 11:50.25 | Nickenyfiken | Kalroth: Ich bin geil! |
| 11:50.37 | karim | whats the newest version? |
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| 11:50.40 | neenee | karim - open Internet Explorere and open http://www.wowace.com/wau/publish.htm |
| 11:51.00 | neenee | Bitte Internet Explorer offnen nach http://www.wowace.com/wau/publish.htm |
| 11:51.09 | karim | <3 german |
| 11:51.24 | neenee | I know, but this is an english channel :) |
| 11:51.39 | Ellipsis | sigh |
| 11:51.54 | Ellipsis | I think I broke my addon beyond repair =[ |
| 11:51.55 | neenee | Time for some TF2. woo! |
| 11:51.59 | *** join/#wowace Jio (i=1000@70.91.168.58) |
| 11:52.24 | Jio | GOod evening. |
| 11:52.36 | Industrial | http://news.filefront.com/assassins-creed-altair-was-here-trailer/ |
| 11:52.41 | Industrial | hoooo shit |
| 11:52.44 | Industrial | =D |
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| 11:53.48 | cncfanatics | sigh, 2h to download a 100mb patch = lose |
| 11:54.02 | Trell_ | Tuikku, can I PLEASE have your children? |
| 11:55.15 | Ellipsis | o.o |
| 11:55.22 | Vires | Ever get to be able to be logged in longer than 6 sec, Trell_? |
| 11:55.23 | Fisker- | get better intarwebs cncfanatics |
| 11:55.23 | Matrix110 | cncfanatics l2wowwiki |
| 11:55.27 | Kalroth | Hot |
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| 11:55.34 | Trell_ | Ellipsis, his solution worked |
| 11:55.38 | Matrix110 | http://www.wowwiki.com/Patch_mirrors |
| 11:55.41 | Fisker- | btw cncfanatics you EU? |
| 11:55.42 | Trell_ | Vires; just now, thanks to Tuikku |
| 11:55.45 | Fisker- | cause then i got a fast mirror for you |
| 11:55.51 | Vires | Nice |
| 11:55.59 | karim | now i have 1.9.44.652 .. |
| 11:56.02 | Vires | Get your CowTip settings? =p |
| 11:56.04 | Fisker- | cncfanatics |
| 11:56.07 | Fisker- | i'm going to spam you |
| 11:56.07 | Matrix110 | Fisker he is |
| 11:56.08 | cncfanatics | Matrix110, its my internet |
| 11:56.10 | Trell_ | just gonna SS now |
| 11:56.10 | Fisker- | relentlessly |
| 11:56.11 | Fisker- | ok |
| 11:56.15 | Ellipsis | Trell_, that worked for you? |
| 11:56.19 | Ellipsis | grats :D |
| 11:56.21 | cncfanatics | gonna buy bandwith , can't stand this |
| 11:56.23 | Matrix110 | oh ic |
| 11:56.26 | Fisker- | oh |
| 11:56.27 | Fisker- | :o |
| 11:57.24 | Vires | Ooh Checksum offloading... yeah I had to do that a long time ago when I was leveling an alt since it was causing me to disconnect when I turned quests in |
| 11:57.25 | *** join/#wowace Raz^^ (i=alyx-@r4ay106.net.upc.cz) |
| 11:57.36 | Ellipsis | that never fixed it for me >_> |
| 11:57.42 | karim | |
| 11:57.43 | karim | how change I draw-eat of my ace more updater? |
| 11:57.44 | Ellipsis | on any of my network cards |
| 11:58.01 | Ellipsis | karim, can you try saying that a different way or using a different translator? |
| 11:58.27 | karim | i cant iam 15 years old and my english mark is a 5 xD |
| 11:58.30 | Vires | I think he's wonder why the ace updates is lagging his system during it's draw phase. |
| 11:58.39 | Ellipsis | hmm |
| 11:58.53 | Ellipsis | karim, you could try another updater |
| 11:58.54 | Trell_ | it's something to do with wow ace updater, thats all I got from that |
| 11:58.57 | Vires | updater* (Or in channel syntax s/updates/updater) |
| 11:59.14 | Ellipsis | channel syntax? |
| 11:59.14 | Ellipsis | ~facepalm |
| 11:59.15 | purl | ACTION facepalms at the situation |
| 11:59.22 | Ellipsis | bah! |
| 11:59.37 | Trell_ | awesome im in properly |
| 11:59.41 | Trell_ | AND no addon erros |
| 11:59.46 | Vires | Java is renown for being sloooooooow. Or at least it always was for me. |
| 11:59.47 | Trell_ | thats like, best patch day ever |
| 12:00.05 | Vires | Trell_: Except for the whole... naked... thing. |
| 12:00.15 | Nickenyfiken | Java is a lot better now a days. |
| 12:00.26 | *** join/#wowace Hjalte (n=chatzill@0x57346aa8.svgnxx3.adsl-dhcp.tele.dk) |
| 12:00.45 | Jio | Is everyone using Tortoise, or are there any SmartSVN users here as well? |
| 12:01.15 | Vires | I tried running WAU2 and nearly locked up while drawing the addons list. WAU default is similiar, but doesn't get quite as close. (was running WoW at the same time, heh.. on Vista... hehe) |
| 12:01.22 | Nickenyfiken | I'm a Tortoise user |
| 12:02.09 | Nickenyfiken | Vires: well... that maybe be because the coder sucks too. Don't always blame the langage/framework/whateva. |
| 12:02.15 | karim | my world of warcraft is not in the right folder i have my wow in a another folder |
| 12:02.20 | Vires | Fair enough. |
| 12:02.21 | Ellipsis | Vires, it's getting better |
| 12:02.38 | Vires | Who can I drag through the flames of utter humiliation? |
| 12:02.40 | Fisker- | LOL |
| 12:02.42 | Nickenyfiken | karim: you should be able to configure that. |
| 12:02.43 | Fisker- | http://forums.wow-europe.com/thread.html?topicId=1016061656&postId=10158903458&sid=1#62 |
| 12:02.44 | Fisker- | hahaha |
| 12:03.32 | Jio | I'm having some trouble with SmartSVN |
| 12:03.44 | Fisker- | tortoisesvn is easier imo |
| 12:03.49 | Ellipsis | Fisker- owned XD |
| 12:04.07 | Fisker- | pretty much calling us all losers for still posting in the thread |
| 12:04.12 | Fisker- | and then he himself keeps responding to us |
| 12:04.14 | Fisker- | hahaha |
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| 12:04.50 | Trell_ | ok, Sirow and Vires; http://www.cashcowgames.com/cowtip1.jpg - http://www.cashcowgames.com/cowtip2.jpg - http://www.cashcowgames.com/cowtip3.jpg |
| 12:05.01 | Trell_ | 1 is a same faction player, with talents shown |
| 12:05.04 | Trell_ | 2 is opposing faction |
| 12:05.10 | Trell_ | 3 is a friendly npc |
| 12:05.24 | Vires | Trell_: danke |
| 12:05.46 | Trell_ | i'll pm you the code for each of the lines if you like |
| 12:05.47 | karim | if i press f8 and change the folder, my ace updater do not change it why ? |
| 12:05.54 | Vires | Pastebin it? |
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| 12:06.10 | Trell_ | can I take it as direct code from somewhere rather than copying each individual Line text? |
| 12:06.15 | Sirow | Trell: Yeah pastebin would be cool |
| 12:06.18 | Trell_ | the faction colouring pissed me off for ages |
| 12:07.02 | karim | <3 Vires |
| 12:07.17 | Silviu- | Trell_ last line i would like to have :P |
| 12:07.29 | Trell_ | [TalentSpec?Text(Talents [TalentTree] :: [TalentSpec])] |
| 12:07.41 | Trell_ | replace the :: for whatever seperator you want |
| 12:07.59 | CIA-22 | 03ammo 07Alpha * r49835 10Ace3/ (2 files in 2 dirs): |
| 12:07.59 | CIA-22 | Ace3: |
| 12:07.59 | CIA-22 | - Styling and comment fix in AceLocale-3.0 |
| 12:07.59 | CIA-22 | - Add persist option to RegisterChatCommand in AceConsole, commands that don't persist will be removed upon disable, and enabled upon enable again when AceConsole is used as a mixin |
| 12:07.59 | Silviu- | Thx |
| 12:08.03 | Trell_ | np |
| 12:08.04 | Ellipsis | k I'm failing at code today =[ |
| 12:08.37 | CIA-22 | 03daviesh * r49836 10AtlasLoot_WorldLoot/AtlasLoot_WorldLoot.toc: |
| 12:08.37 | CIA-22 | AtlasLoot_WorldLoot: |
| 12:08.37 | CIA-22 | - Patch 2.2 Update |
| 12:08.47 | CIA-22 | 03daviesh * r49837 10AtlasLoot_SetsandPvP/AtlasLoot_SetsandPvP.toc: |
| 12:08.47 | CIA-22 | AtlasLoot_SetsandPvP: |
| 12:08.47 | CIA-22 | - Patch 2.2 Update |
| 12:08.56 | CIA-22 | 03daviesh * r49838 10AtlasLoot_RepFactions/AtlasLoot_RepFactions.toc: |
| 12:08.56 | CIA-22 | AtlasLoot_RepFactions: |
| 12:08.56 | CIA-22 | - Patch 2.2 Update |
| 12:09.04 | Ellipsis | I think ckknight is rubbing off on me, I realized that I've been banging my head against a wall for an hour because I negated a condition where I didn't mean to |
| 12:09.08 | CIA-22 | 03daviesh * r49839 10AtlasLoot_OldInstances/AtlasLoot_OldInstances.toc: |
| 12:09.08 | CIA-22 | AtlasLoot_OldInstances: |
| 12:09.08 | CIA-22 | - Patch 2.2 Update |
| 12:09.17 | CIA-22 | 03daviesh * r49840 10AtlasLoot_BCInstances/AtlasLoot_BCInstances.toc: |
| 12:09.17 | CIA-22 | AtlasLoot_BCInstances: |
| 12:09.17 | CIA-22 | - Patch 2.2 Update |
| 12:09.24 | Silviu- | Trell_ and it will show when ? |
| 12:09.35 | Silviu- | Trell_ if player is in my guild only or ? |
| 12:09.42 | Trell_ | http://ace.pastey.net/74435-wa1k - hopefully you can make sense of that, Vires |
| 12:09.50 | Trell_ | Silviu: ? |
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| 12:10.11 | Trell_ | Vires; I just pasted the saved var file, with the relevant Text Lines in it |
| 12:10.20 | Vires | Yeah, that works, thanks |
| 12:10.21 | Sirow | thx alot :=) |
| 12:10.22 | CIA-22 | 03daviesh * r49841 10AtlasLoot/ (3 files in 3 dirs): |
| 12:10.22 | CIA-22 | AtlasLoot: |
| 12:10.22 | CIA-22 | - Release version 4.01.04 finalised with updates for Patch 2.2 as well as all changes since 4.01.03 (Pre-60 Battleground Items, more world event items, more BoE Epics, etc) |
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| 12:11.12 | Trell_ | has Elk changed? |
| 12:11.17 | Trell_ | *Elk Buff Bars |
| 12:11.21 | Silviu- | Trell_ well on some players in shatt i see talents on some not, what determines if i see or not :P |
| 12:11.29 | Trell_ | it seems the texture on them has changed to my pitbull deafult |
| 12:11.40 | Trell_ | Silviu; if they are running Rock, you'll see their talents |
| 12:11.42 | Ellipsis | Trell_, you can set the texture |
| 12:11.43 | [Ammo] | Silviu-: it depends if they live in 1984 or not |
| 12:11.51 | Ellipsis | lol [Ammo] |
| 12:11.54 | Silviu- | ;))))) |
| 12:11.59 | Trell_ | Ellipsis; I never had a texture before I'm sure |
| 12:12.00 | Silviu- | Aha ok :) |
| 12:12.19 | Ellipsis | Trell_, you can still set it |
| 12:12.20 | Ellipsis | >_> |
| 12:12.31 | Ellipsis | it's always been configurable, you were using whatever it defaulted to |
| 12:12.44 | Trell_ | yay, I see a LOT more talents now |
| 12:12.46 | Trell_ | awesome. |
| 12:12.51 | Hjalte | How do i change my uiscale ingame, by chat commands? |
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| 12:13.27 | Benihime | How do i load the other skins of Xart ? |
| 12:14.09 | Silviu- | [Ammo] instead of flaming me update tocs on simplechatmods and wh ! :) |
| 12:14.15 | [Ammo] | why? |
| 12:14.18 | [Ammo] | works fine without update |
| 12:14.19 | [Ammo] | shoo |
| 12:14.21 | Silviu- | :P |
| 12:14.23 | Ellipsis | haha |
| 12:14.23 | cncfanatics | why bother ? too lazy to tick the box ? |
| 12:14.23 | giskard | hello guys* |
| 12:14.33 | giskard | i just wonder if wowace can be use with linux |
| 12:14.42 | Ellipsis | websites tend to be platform-independent |
| 12:15.20 | cncfanatics | giskard, wowace is a website ? |
| 12:15.34 | giskard | cncfanatics, wau sorry |
| 12:15.55 | cncfanatics | brb |
| 12:16.02 | Ellipsis | you can try with Mono, or just use one of the other updaters that doesn't use .NET |
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| 12:16.44 | cncfanatics | back, with bandwith |
| 12:16.47 | cncfanatics | 1€ a gig, bitches |
| 12:16.57 | giskard | Ellipsis, ok, check with mono. |
| 12:16.57 | Ellipsis | grats |
| 12:17.56 | giskard | btw, http://wuu.vagabonds.info/ |
| 12:18.42 | Ellipsis | yeah, that's one of the other ones |
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| 12:21.08 | cncfanatics | god, broadband is good |
| 12:21.13 | cncfanatics | even if my bandwith is fucking expensive, who cares |
| 12:21.55 | Trell_ | hoho spying on people rocks |
| 12:22.03 | Sirow | :D |
| 12:22.04 | Ellipsis | lol |
| 12:22.09 | Ellipsis | it's nothing you couldn't already see, Trell_ |
| 12:22.28 | Trell_ | well, I enjoy it |
| 12:23.03 | Sirow | VOYEUR!! :D |
| 12:23.22 | Trell_ | the new de icon looks a bit...gay |
| 12:23.38 | Sirow | de icon? |
| 12:24.05 | Trell_ | disenchant |
| 12:24.06 | Ellipsis | disenchant |
| 12:24.10 | Ellipsis | and /agree |
| 12:24.35 | cncfanatics | what is it like ? |
| 12:24.43 | cncfanatics | btw, someone recommend me profs for a rogue :) |
| 12:24.43 | Trell_ | very...pink |
| 12:24.51 | Trell_ | cnc, levelling or end game |
| 12:25.36 | Jio | *cry* |
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| 12:25.49 | Jio | I think I'm doing this right, and still gettign forbidden when I try to commit. |
| 12:26.12 | Trell_ | i went LW/Skinning when I levelled |
| 12:26.15 | Trell_ | some nice gear to be made |
| 12:26.23 | Sirow | Jio: Did you put "AddonName:" infront of commit message and used dev.wowace.com? |
| 12:26.23 | Trell_ | plus the leather sells well |
| 12:26.30 | Trell_ | at end game I went herb/alch |
| 12:26.33 | Jio | yes. |
| 12:26.37 | cncfanatics | Troll_, I'm not doing profs while lvl'ing, so endgame :p |
| 12:26.39 | Trell_ | and I still buy 99% of my herbs, cos im lazy |
| 12:26.51 | [Ammo] | Jio: what error do you get. put it on ace.pastey.net |
| 12:27.02 | cncfanatics | what i'm considering is, BS/Mining till I get all mats for t3 sword (those that can be mined that is) |
| 12:27.03 | Trell_ | well; take money making ones, or alch for example, very handy for money making and/or raiding |
| 12:27.08 | cncfanatics | then drop mining & take herba/BS |
| 12:27.22 | cncfanatics | what u think of my idea ? :p |
| 12:27.23 | Trell_ | isn't BS expensive to level and a pain past 305? |
| 12:27.27 | kenlyric | cncfanatics: why? |
| 12:27.30 | kenlyric | just keep mining. |
| 12:27.48 | cncfanatics | herbs for raids ? |
| 12:27.50 | CIA-22 | 03mikk * r49842 10FuBarAce/: |
| 12:27.50 | CIA-22 | FuBarAce: |
| 12:27.50 | CIA-22 | - Publish Ace2 version of FuBar again |
| 12:27.51 | Trell_ | mmm Flask Of Pure Death |
| 12:27.52 | cncfanatics | HC raiding = need herbs |
| 12:27.56 | kenlyric | sell ores, buy herbs. |
| 12:27.58 | CIA-22 | 03azonia * r49843 10FishingAce/ (FishingAce.lua FishingAce.toc): |
| 12:27.59 | CIA-22 | FishingAce: |
| 12:27.59 | CIA-22 | - Fix Enhance Sounds |
| 12:27.59 | CIA-22 | - TOC |
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| 12:28.00 | *** mode/#wowace [+v Mikk] by ChanServ |
| 12:28.04 | cncfanatics | hmmmmz |
| 12:28.06 | Jio | Commit: svn: Commit failed (defailts follow):svn: CHECKOUT of '/wowace/!svn/ver/48833/trunk/SuicideKingsGeo': 403 Forbidden (http://dev.wowace.com) |
| 12:28.11 | kenlyric | I only grind the AH |
| 12:28.17 | cncfanatics | could do I guess |
| 12:28.26 | Trell_ | ok - the new VE flask vendor |
| 12:28.26 | Jio | , er, details* |
| 12:28.28 | Ellipsis | http://i23.tinypic.com/6pqgyc <<disenchant icon |
| 12:28.30 | Trell_ | is he outside kara? |
| 12:28.30 | cncfanatics | also, with mining there's no prob to get gems |
| 12:28.31 | kenlyric | provided your market isn't completely screwed up, you'll find them mostly equally profitable |
| 12:28.36 | Trell_ | or is it one of the ones inside |
| 12:28.40 | Gngsk | kenlyric, how could you not grind on your hunter? |
| 12:28.56 | kenlyric | Gngsk: level 65? |
| 12:29.03 | [AoC]Camci | when i hover over my hear i have on me, it doesnt show the item... what addon is it that does that? :/ |
| 12:29.06 | [AoC]Camci | gear* |
| 12:29.16 | Ellipsis | [AoC]Camci update your ItemRack |
| 12:29.17 | Gngsk | kenlyric, I'm grinding on my lvl 57 hunter right now |
| 12:29.19 | Ellipsis | >_> |
| 12:29.24 | kenlyric | between skinning and herbalism, he certainly never needs to grind for anything. |
| 12:29.28 | CIA-22 | 03aileen 072.0 * r49844 10FuBar_VolumeFu/: FuBar_VolumeFu: tagging 2.0 version |
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| 12:31.07 | Gngsk | grinding as a hunter is pure joy |
| 12:31.23 | kenlyric | grinding is never joy. |
| 12:31.30 | kenlyric | nothing has drop rates like the AH |
| 12:31.43 | cncfanatics | heh |
| 12:31.51 | cncfanatics | AH farming = win when u know how and got some good starting capital |
| 12:31.59 | kenlyric | and gathering professions have 200-400% drop rate |
| 12:32.40 | kenlyric | though I imagine I'll probably grind for consortium rep when I get around to that area. |
| 12:32.45 | kenlyric | which I could grind CC rep :( |
| 12:32.50 | kenlyric | *CE rep |
| 12:34.50 | Pkekyo | morning all |
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| 12:35.10 | cncfanatics | hello |
| 12:35.13 | Ellipsis | oh, that reminds me, I has armaments to turn in ^-^ |
| 12:35.30 | Jio | Ammo: http://ace.pastey.net/74436 |
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| 12:36.07 | abbat_w | gathering professions? :) |
| 12:36.13 | Trell_ | hehe lots of people at hte vendor outside kara |
| 12:36.14 | abbat_w | it's not need anymore |
| 12:36.16 | cncfanatics | meh, my old main is exalted with all |
| 12:36.21 | abbat_w | Blizzard make daily quests |
| 12:37.14 | Ellipsis | if everyone thought like that abbat_w, the prices of herbs would go up pretty quickly >_> |
| 12:37.34 | Nickenyfiken | Any enhancement shaman in here that do end game raiding? |
| 12:37.35 | irandamay | then I make even more money on top of daily quests with skinning though :) not quite as profitable as herbalism but Heavy Knothide and Thick Clefthoof sell pretty well for the amount I get while trying to level up my scorpid to 70 in Nagrand |
| 12:37.58 | abbat_w | Ellipsis, i don't run pve ;) |
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| 12:38.30 | abbat_w | Ellipsis, and i read what blizzard plan to make pvp daily quests ;) This is for me ;) |
| 12:38.50 | CIA-22 | 03pheredhel * r49845 10CCBreaker/CCBreaker.toc: CCBreaker: Pushing Interface Version (seems to work as is) |
| 12:39.01 | Trell_ | where did you read that, abbat_w? |
| 12:39.12 | Ellipsis | well I don't PvP, so it's quite the opposite here :P |
| 12:39.15 | Trell_ | I saw they're aiming to add more daily quests, including cooking ones, but not PvP ones >_< |
| 12:39.21 | abbat_w | mmo-champion.com, one of blue post from forums |
| 12:39.55 | Bibi | yes, mmo-champion.com is a great site |
| 12:40.00 | CIA-22 | 03mikk * r49846 10FuBarAce/: |
| 12:40.00 | CIA-22 | FuBarAce: |
| 12:40.00 | CIA-22 | - Good idea, bad implementation. Mods have dependencies on "FuBar". |
| 12:40.02 | Bibi | and the webmaster is nice. |
| 12:40.24 | Pkekyo | I hear the patch is fucking up peoples UIs? |
| 12:40.26 | Stanzilla2 | lol Mikk |
| 12:40.27 | Nickenyfiken | FuBarAce uh |
| 12:40.33 | Ellipsis | some people Pkekyo |
| 12:41.00 | Pkekyo | Ellipsis: any idea what's causing it? |
| 12:41.01 | Fisker- | btw is it new with this scroll noise when learning recipes? :P |
| 12:41.06 | Jio | for the most part, everything kept working for me. |
| 12:41.09 | Mikk | %¤#&¤% @ ace2 mods having a dependency on "fubar", which isn't even ace2 but rock suddenly |
| 12:41.15 | Pkekyo | heard it had something to do with widescreen, not sure exactly what though |
| 12:41.16 | Ellipsis | Pkekyo, seems to be a problem with widescreen UI scale |
| 12:41.25 | Ellipsis | although oddly enough I use both and had no issues |
| 12:41.30 | Pkekyo | So if I don't have a widescreen, I should be fine? |
| 12:41.32 | Jio | hmm. I use widescreen. |
| 12:41.42 | Ellipsis | Pkekyo, theoretically maybe |
| 12:41.46 | Ellipsis | nobody knows for sure |
| 12:41.46 | abbat_w | Mikk, for what? Are fubar was named as fubarace? :) |
| 12:41.57 | Mikk | eh? i don't want rock fubar |
| 12:41.59 | Mikk | i want ace fubar |
| 12:42.00 | Pkekyo | I've spent too much fucking time customizing my UI for something like this to fuck it up |
| 12:42.07 | secutanudu | Anyone here use x-loot? Is the latest version fixed? (able to masterloot items?) |
| 12:42.11 | Pkekyo | Mikk: rollback? :) |
| 12:42.28 | Mikk | Pkekyo: mmmm.. except that doesn't work indefinitely now does it |
| 12:42.33 | Stanzilla2 | Mikk: just get used to rock? |
| 12:42.34 | Mikk | no |
| 12:42.42 | Mikk | i refuse to have two sets of everything in my addon folder |
| 12:42.46 | Mikk | ain't happening |
| 12:42.48 | Pkekyo | Mikk: just don't ever update it again ;> |
| 12:43.09 | Mikk | especially with ace3 in the works, that's a quarter of the size of rock |
| 12:43.18 | abbat_w | Mikk, i want just fubar. W/o knowing rock or ace or something else |
| 12:43.23 | Mikk | that's nice |
| 12:43.25 | Mikk | i care about what i load |
| 12:43.48 | Pkekyo | I don't give a shit, as long as it'll perform like it've used to tbh |
| 12:43.52 | Mikk | good for you |
| 12:43.56 | Ellipsis | so do I, but I care more about the real effects than the theoretical performance |
| 12:44.02 | Pkekyo | but what's the deal with making ace 3 AND rock? |
| 12:44.12 | [Ammo] | the real effect is that the rock addons are fanboi tested |
| 12:44.13 | Ellipsis | and I found reduced memory usage and churn after the Rock switch |
| 12:44.18 | Mikk | ckk didn't want to work with others |
| 12:44.22 | Mikk | that's the short story |
| 12:44.23 | kenlyric | qq |
| 12:44.35 | [Ammo] | and there's the rock config popping up in your face midraid |
| 12:44.39 | [Ammo] | due to a misclick on fubar |
| 12:44.40 | [Ammo] | no thanks |
| 12:44.47 | Ellipsis | I haven't had that happen *shrug* |
| 12:44.48 | Mikk | i've already had wipes thanks to that |
| 12:44.49 | Mikk | joy |
| 12:44.56 | Ellipsis | I don't click on my FuBars much |
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| 12:45.09 | Mikk | people with fubars below their action bars get bitten by it |
| 12:45.22 | Mikk | rightclick fubar -> 2 second cpu lock -> big dialog in the middle of their face |
| 12:45.22 | doktoreas | wich is the addon that show comabt log as 2 columns? |
| 12:45.25 | Ellipsis | my FuBar is above my action bars at the bottom of my screen |
| 12:45.26 | doktoreas | in and out |
| 12:45.30 | Pkekyo | why the hell does he have to port all addons to rock? ought to be able to chose wether or not you wanted it |
| 12:45.30 | kenlyric | yeah, I find that pretty dumb that it pops up a config screen that doesn't go away. |
| 12:45.42 | Fisker- | Anyone tried deleting the "Sale Pending" mails from the auction house? |
| 12:45.46 | Jio | Ammo: did you see that error? am I just doing something dumb? |
| 12:45.49 | kenlyric | Pkekyo: because they're his addons? |
| 12:46.02 | cncfanatics | lol at the QQ |
| 12:46.03 | Ellipsis | Pkekyo, he can't maintain two different versions of the addons on two different frameworks |
| 12:46.10 | Mikk | that's cool |
| 12:46.11 | Mikk | let someone else do it |
| 12:46.17 | kenlyric | someone needs to write a greek tragedy with all these tears. |
| 12:46.21 | Mikk | should have upped the major ver of all mods going rock |
| 12:46.21 | Ellipsis | nobody's stopping them, Mikk |
| 12:46.24 | cncfanatics | Mikk, ur seriously QQ'ing there |
| 12:46.25 | Xinhuan | who clicks their buttons???? |
| 12:46.28 | Xinhuan | o_O |
| 12:46.31 | Ellipsis | go branch an Ace-based FuBar, gl, hf |
| 12:46.34 | [Ammo] | jio: looks like you don't have access |
| 12:46.38 | kenlyric | Mikk: uh, he did up the major version number of each addon. |
| 12:46.39 | Chompers | Pkekyo: don't update |
| 12:46.42 | Pkekyo | Xinhuan: noone...I hope |
| 12:46.42 | Chompers | so you can choose |
| 12:46.51 | Xinhuan | [9/26 20:42:40] <+Mikk> people with fubars below their action bars get bitten by it |
| 12:46.53 | Mikk | kenlyric: orly? why are ace2 fubar mods depending on something that is now rock? |
| 12:46.58 | Jio | I was using the username and passwd that was emailed to me when I requested the account. |
| 12:47.04 | Pkekyo | Chompers: I stopped even opening WAU ever since people started screaming about this crap :) |
| 12:47.12 | irandamay | I do :) I only hit keys for buttons 1-6 on the main bar, but I have 4 bars with 12 buttons :) |
| 12:47.19 | [Ammo] | Jio: you must really be doing something wrong |
| 12:47.24 | [AoC]Camci | anyone uses Witch Hunt? |
| 12:47.29 | [Ammo] | I do |
| 12:47.35 | [Ammo] | I accidently wrote it as well :p |
| 12:47.37 | Ellipsis | Mikk: there are 3 addons I know of that *require* FuBar |
| 12:47.40 | cncfanatics | Mikk, who cares about the framework ? |
| 12:47.46 | Mikk | i do |
| 12:47.52 | Ellipsis | not sure which ones you're talking about |
| 12:47.55 | [Ammo] | I do as well |
| 12:47.56 | [AoC]Camci | I cant get it to show the alerts... |
| 12:48.00 | [Ammo] | oh? |
| 12:48.01 | Mikk | if it was only the framework libs i could MAYBE live with it |
| 12:48.05 | Pkekyo | cncfanatics: it's not really an issue, if it doesn't impact performance... |
| 12:48.09 | [AoC]Camci | i made a duel with a shaman to test it out |
| 12:48.10 | Mikk | but now there's duplicate versions of half the libs on the svn |
| 12:48.18 | [AoC]Camci | and it just wont alert whenhe uses spells.. |
| 12:48.19 | cncfanatics | Pkekyo, u do realize that Ace2-> rock actualy makes performance go up ? |
| 12:48.20 | Ellipsis | most FuBar plugins embed FuBarPlugin-2.0 which doesn't use or require Rock or FuBar |
| 12:48.20 | Ellipsis | :/ |
| 12:48.27 | Mikk | cncfanatics: lol |
| 12:48.42 | cncfanatics | Mikk, I won fps & mem since ckk ported his addons to rock |
| 12:48.57 | [Ammo] | [AoC]Camci: I usually check it on the wendigo's in dun morogh, they have an ice spell that should be alerted |
| 12:48.59 | Pkekyo | cncfanatics: I haven't eeven bothered to do any research, I just stated what I believe in general... |
| 12:49.25 | Mikk | Ellipsis: have you read the toc files of a lot of fubar plugins? i have. they state "Depends: FuBar" |
| 12:49.28 | kenlyric | Pkekyo: you must be an American voter. |
| 12:49.34 | Mikk | or "OptionalDepends: FuBar" |
| 12:49.35 | Ellipsis | Mikk: as an OPTIONAL dependency |
| 12:49.40 | [Ammo] | cncfanatics: might be true, but now you have the rock configuration abomination spawn in your face all the time |
| 12:49.41 | kenlyric | I'VE DONE NO RESEARCH BUT I KNOW I HATE THAT GUY! |
| 12:49.41 | Ellipsis | optional means not required |
| 12:49.42 | Ellipsis | QED |
| 12:49.43 | Pkekyo | kenlyric: no |
| 12:49.43 | Mikk | there's nonoptionals as well |
| 12:49.50 | cncfanatics | [Ammo], then disable it :p |
| 12:49.53 | Mikk | plenty of em |
| 12:49.57 | Ellipsis | Mikk, then the author made a mistake in the toc |
| 12:50.03 | Kalroth | Cat fight! *purr*purr* |
| 12:50.06 | [Ammo] | cncfanatics: I disabled it by using the Ace2 versions ;) |
| 12:50.07 | [AoC]Camci | [Ammo] Ot doesnt work in duels/pvp ? |
| 12:50.09 | Ellipsis | the only addons that should require FuBar are things like FuXPFu and tcgTradeskills |
| 12:50.10 | [AoC]Camci | It* |
| 12:50.11 | CIA-22 | 03xinhuan * r49847 10WoWEquip/ (WoWEquip.lua localization.lua): WoWEquip: - Fix ARMOR calculation due to ItemBonusLib change which split it into BASE_ARMOR and ARMOR_BONUS (a useful change for future use). |
| 12:50.15 | [Ammo] | [AoC]Camci: maybe doesn't work in duels |
| 12:50.16 | kenlyric | the rock configuration abomination as a click on Fubar is the only rock thing I dislike. |
| 12:50.18 | Pkekyo | me stating a general opinion about frameworks has NOTHING to do with anything else I might do, such as woting... |
| 12:50.23 | Jio | Ammo: any suggestions? |
| 12:50.24 | kenlyric | s/dislike/I see/ |
| 12:50.30 | [AoC]Camci | ah ok.. ill try joining a BG :) |
| 12:50.38 | [Ammo] | Jio: no clue, looks like you're trying to commit to something closed to you committing |
| 12:50.41 | Ellipsis | Mikk: go fix the tocs or bug the authors of those addons |
| 12:50.53 | [Ammo] | Jio: or you checked out from svn.wowace.com and are now trying to commit |
| 12:50.59 | cncfanatics | Jio, ur using svn.wowace instead of dev.wowace ? |
| 12:52.22 | Jio | I don't believe so, cnc. |
| 12:52.23 | cncfanatics | :o, everything is working with the new patch |
| 12:52.34 | Jio | the error is coming back from dev.wowace.com |
| 12:52.35 | [Ammo] | it's all personal preference, and I don't like multiple copies of the same lib, nor do I like that config screen |
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| 12:53.01 | Mikk | and see |
| 12:53.02 | Mikk | the thing is |
| 12:53.09 | Pkekyo | any intel on the ragesteel shoulder drop? |
| 12:53.12 | [Ammo] | Jio: type, svn info in the folder |
| 12:53.14 | Mikk | i now have shitloads of addons depending on something that got hugely changed |
| 12:53.22 | cncfanatics | Mikk, write ur own |
| 12:53.22 | [Ammo] | Jio: what does the URL: say |
| 12:53.39 | irandamay | I am resigned to it. I don't accidentally click the config luckily because I moved my bottom fubar away from the bottom before the "no tooltips in combat" thing was added |
| 12:53.51 | m4rku5 | i have to say rock isnt a good thing at all :S |
| 12:53.58 | CIA-22 | 03hedin * r49848 10MeleeFrame/core.lua: MeleeFrame: update |
| 12:54.01 | Trell_ | i didn't like the first commit of rock |
| 12:54.03 | [Ammo] | it's a matter of personal prefernce |
| 12:54.04 | Trell_ | confused me to hell |
| 12:54.08 | Trell_ | but I do like it now. |
| 12:54.23 | Nickenyfiken | Yeah! If you don't like it don't use it. Really simple. |
| 12:54.26 | Jio | its at the end of the pastey I made you. http://dev.wowace.com |
| 12:54.27 | Mikk | cncfanatics: interestingly, that's what's happening |
| 12:54.34 | cncfanatics | Mikk, then quit complaining ? |
| 12:54.38 | [Ammo] | Jio: nono |
| 12:54.46 | [Ammo] | Jio: go into the folder and type: svn info |
| 12:54.52 | [Ammo] | paste me the URL: line |
| 12:54.53 | Nickenyfiken | Start WAU. Right click FuBar and select Unistall. Or remove the folder manually. |
| 12:54.57 | Jio | ok. one moment. |
| 12:55.04 | Mikk | cncfanatics: or maybe i just rename FuBar to FuBarRock. And reinstate old fubar. |
| 12:55.05 | Mikk | works too |
| 12:55.05 | m4rku5 | ever tried cartographer ? how lame is that: the config being behind cartographer itself :S |
| 12:55.17 | kenlyric | Oh no, software changed, news at 11. |
| 12:55.30 | kenlyric | I wonder if Mikk is still bitter about 32-bit windows. |
| 12:55.41 | kenlyric | CURSE YOU START BUTTON! |
| 12:55.42 | Nickenyfiken | m4rku5: It is? Must be something wrong with your WoW. |
| 12:55.44 | cncfanatics | Mikk, why, its his addon ? |
| 12:55.47 | Mikk | i'd be bitter about 32-bit windows if i had to load it at the same time as 16-bit windows and macos |
| 12:55.49 | Mikk | uyeah |
| 12:56.07 | [Ammo] | Nickenyfiken: nope, rock config pops up behind carto itself |
| 12:56.11 | cncfanatics | Mikk, if u rename his addon and take over his trunk folder then thats just plain stealing |
| 12:56.11 | [Ammo] | since carto forces itself on top |
| 12:56.12 | Trell_ | lol@ken |
| 12:56.19 | Ellipsis | ~logs |
| 12:56.20 | purl | methinks logs is apt/ibot/infobot/jbot/purl all log daily to http://ibot.rikers.org/<channelname>/ where channelname is html encoded ie: %23debian | lines that start with a space are not shown | some channels have stats at http://ibot.rikers.org/stats/<channelname>.html.gz |
| 12:56.25 | kenlyric | or, bug ck to make the horrid rock config window thing an option that's off by default. |
| 12:56.32 | kenlyric | which is what *I* plan to do. |
| 12:56.37 | Mikk | cncfanatics: nothing new. ckk has been doing it to loads of libs the past few weeks. |
| 12:56.43 | ennuilg | Strangely enough, until Windows 2K, that's exactly what you had to do (apart from the Mac OS...) |
| 12:56.45 | cncfanatics | Mikk, he has ? how so ? |
| 12:56.49 | [Ammo] | cncfanatics: he has |
| 12:56.51 | Mikk | read more svn commits |
| 12:56.52 | Nickenyfiken | [Ammo]: Hmm weird, that never happened for me. |
| 12:56.55 | [Ammo] | LibGratuity-3.0, etc etc |
| 12:57.05 | [Ammo] | sharedmedia |
| 12:57.13 | [Ammo] | stolen, up'd version adn rocked to shit |
| 12:57.15 | Mikk | sharedmedia was very beautiful yeah |
| 12:57.25 | Mikk | suddenly all ace2 sharedmedia addons broke |
| 12:57.26 | Mikk | kaboom |
| 12:58.20 | kenlyric | and then got fixed. |
| 12:58.27 | [Ammo] | no it got reverted by me |
| 12:58.30 | [Ammo] | which is a fix yeah |
| 12:58.48 | m4rku5 | umm cant we have brachens for theese addons ? a rock and an ace branch ? |
| 12:59.01 | Jio | bah. I'm afraid I can't find how to do that with SmartSVN. Its not so smart, apparently. |
| 12:59.07 | Pkekyo | why the hell can't he just copy the addon and name it ie. SharedMediaRock and FuBarRock |
| 12:59.14 | Pkekyo | ? |
| 12:59.23 | Nickenyfiken | m4rku5: there was while Rock was developed. |
| 12:59.32 | Nickenyfiken | m4rku5: and Ace3 is in branches |
| 12:59.36 | [Ammo] | rock is still being developped |
| 12:59.41 | kenlyric | I guess I'm confused, because I thought when he Rocked all those libs he upped the version numbers. |
| 12:59.41 | [Ammo] | you people are just the test pigs |
| 13:00.01 | [Ammo] | he did, but he changed Ace libs -> Rock, taking the orginal name |
| 13:00.02 | Ellipsis | ~seen SaladFork |
| 13:00.06 | purl | saladfork <n=SaladFor@pool-96-233-42-24.bstnma.fios.verizon.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 24d 3h 54m 23s ago, saying: 'goodnight'. |
| 13:00.17 | m4rku5 | so why cant users dedicde if they want an addon with rock or with addons |
| 13:00.17 | m4rku5 | erm or with ace |
| 13:00.17 | m4rku5 | :S |
| 13:00.18 | kenlyric | [Ammo]: hmmm, why was he allowed to do that? |
| 13:00.26 | cncfanatics | either way, shouldnt most libs be using LibStub anyway |
| 13:00.38 | [Ammo] | cncfanatics: yes they should, but ckknight can't code a lib without using Rock |
| 13:00.43 | [Ammo] | or refuses rather |
| 13:01.01 | cncfanatics | sigh, politics, politics, politics |
| 13:01.08 | Mikk | he keeps saying framework agnostic libs is shit |
| 13:01.19 | cncfanatics | well, i'm using the most efficient framework around that suits my needs, which atm is rock |
| 13:01.28 | Undine | hmm, my fonts have acquired a drop shadow :( |
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| 13:01.32 | cncfanatics | might be ace3 when its out, might not, might end up being standalone |
| 13:01.59 | cncfanatics | might stay rock too ofc :) |
| 13:02.14 | [Ammo] | you have a choice |
| 13:02.20 | [Ammo] | the masses didn't |
| 13:02.26 | [Ammo] | they got duplicate libs shoved down their troath |
| 13:02.28 | [Ammo] | throat even |
| 13:02.54 | cncfanatics | true enough, too bad for the masses tbh |
| 13:03.03 | [Ammo] | the masses are now the QA department of Rock |
| 13:03.04 | [Ammo] | :p |
| 13:03.09 | m4rku5 | and that suxx imo [Ammo] - we should really have all important libs available as ace and rock |
| 13:03.13 | cncfanatics | they shldnt be using svn in the first place (at least imo, always release stable versions on addon sites) |
| 13:03.14 | kenlyric | the masses are always the QA department of mods. |
| 13:03.29 | [Ammo] | m4rku5: they should be available without any framework ties |
| 13:03.43 | m4rku5 | [Ammo] that would ofc be best |
| 13:04.00 | Fisker- | YAY |
| 13:04.04 | Fisker- | you can delete the sale pending e-mails |
| 13:04.06 | Pkekyo | then why aren't they? |
| 13:04.12 | [AoC]Camci | ok it works in pvp |
| 13:04.17 | [AoC]Camci | so no problem :P |
| 13:04.23 | [AoC]Camci | shame its not working in duels |
| 13:04.24 | [Ammo] | duels are no real pvp anywya: |
| 13:04.30 | [Ammo] | because your target is friendly |
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| 13:04.34 | [Ammo] | and I don't check for unfriendly taregets |
| 13:04.47 | [Ammo] | even in a duel it's firing friendly events |
| 13:05.00 | [AoC]Camci | oh well |
| 13:05.25 | Awaa | "PeriodicTable-3.0 - Error During Update" |
| 13:05.28 | [AoC]Camci | aslong it shows in PVE and PVP im fine |
| 13:05.29 | kenlyric | I can hardly wait to use the AH and wait an hour for my money. |
| 13:05.33 | [AoC]Camci | i dont duel anyway ^ |
| 13:05.35 | [Ammo] | [AoC]Camci: it should |
| 13:05.38 | m4rku5 | ammo whys bigwigs using rock then ? isnt that your addon |
| 13:05.43 | Stanzilla2 | Undine: mine, too. It's horrible |
| 13:05.45 | [Ammo] | m4rku5: it doesn't use rock |
| 13:05.47 | Mikk | m4rku5: it isn't |
| 13:05.51 | m4rku5 | hrm |
| 13:05.52 | kenlyric | thank you blizzard for thinking we fucking care about gold sellers. |
| 13:06.00 | m4rku5 | it shows up in my rock config anyway |
| 13:06.03 | kenlyric | uh |
| 13:06.06 | Mikk | yeah rockconfig reads ace2 configs |
| 13:06.08 | irandamay | every mod shows up in the rock config |
| 13:06.16 | kenlyric | slow cat is slow |
| 13:06.18 | Mikk | plenty don't work either |
| 13:06.29 | m4rku5 | ah ok because some didnt show up |
| 13:06.33 | [Ammo] | if you config bigwigs through the rock config and it fucks up, don't blame me |
| 13:06.34 | irandamay | it's soooo biiig :( |
| 13:06.36 | [Ammo] | kthxbye |
| 13:07.04 | irandamay | *scroll scroll scroll* where's that addon I was looking for |
| 13:07.19 | kenlyric | hmmm... the annoying rock config fubar thingy is at least transparent when you accidentally click on it. |
| 13:07.21 | CIA-22 | 03mikk * r49849 10FuBarAce/: |
| 13:07.21 | CIA-22 | FuBarAce: |
| 13:07.21 | CIA-22 | - New go, this should work better. |
| 13:07.23 | Pkekyo | irandamay: you at files.wowace.com? |
| 13:07.46 | Hjalte | Anyone else having problems with SSR after the patch? |
| 13:07.47 | [AoC]Camci | ItemRack isnt Ace right? |
| 13:07.54 | Pkekyo | nope |
| 13:07.55 | irandamay | no, I am talking about the rock config window... when I want to config pitbull or whatever, there's hundreds of addons in that config window :) |
| 13:07.59 | Pkekyo | ah |
| 13:08.12 | [AoC]Camci | you know where i can get an updated version? |
| 13:08.15 | Pkekyo | so glad I haven't started with this ace3/rock shit yet :) |
| 13:08.19 | m4rku5 | [AoC]Camci no but closetgnome (ace) does the job fine |
| 13:08.22 | kenlyric | yeah, the config window is just dumb. |
| 13:08.30 | kenlyric | but I never liked niagara either. |
| 13:08.40 | [AoC]Camci | im used to ItemRack :) |
| 13:08.44 | Pkekyo | they're both fugly as hell...meh! :> |
| 13:08.50 | Trell_ | I loved Niagra |
| 13:08.57 | irandamay | I wish Gello would finish 2.1 |
| 13:09.01 | kenlyric | but my fubar is a sea of icons too. |
| 13:09.25 | Pkekyo | kenlyric: autohide or dash the ones you don't use :) |
| 13:09.28 | Trell_ | mmm warbringer shoulders look like they are gonna fall off NE's |
| 13:09.32 | Xinhuan | itemrack is already updated on wowi |
| 13:09.35 | kenlyric | Pkekyo: that's just the thing, I use them. |
| 13:09.36 | Xinhuan | go get it there |
| 13:09.37 | Trell_ | netherblade look better than before |
| 13:09.50 | kenlyric | I tried Niagara as an alternative, but it didn't work for me. |
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| 13:11.08 | irandamay | yeah I have too many things on my fubar, and the overflow is all around my minimap |
| 13:11.21 | irandamay | I try to pare them down but it never works out :( |
| 13:11.22 | kenlyric | I just add more bars :) |
| 13:11.29 | Nickenyfiken | I look forward to see how the Ace3 configuration will be. |
| 13:11.36 | kenlyric | I'm very proud I pared down to two. |
| 13:12.25 | cncfanatics | config mods always suck imo |
| 13:12.28 | Kahlas | irandamay, you try setting the fubar addons to icon only? |
| 13:12.30 | cncfanatics | I like slashcommands tbh :p |
| 13:12.48 | irandamay | yes, I still have too many :) |
| 13:12.53 | Kahlas | wow |
| 13:12.57 | Kahlas | you, sir, have too many mods |
| 13:12.58 | Kahlas | :) |
| 13:13.05 | kenlyric | not possible to have more than I do. |
| 13:13.13 | Kahlas | i don't envy you on patch days |
| 13:13.15 | irandamay | some I do have text, it's kinda their point for being there |
| 13:13.20 | Kahlas | right |
| 13:13.21 | Pkekyo | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:13.22 | kenlyric | who cares about patch days? |
| 13:13.25 | Ed``` | anyone know if closetgnome handles trinkets like itemrack does ? |
| 13:13.25 | Kahlas | i move the ones with text to the left side |
| 13:13.29 | irandamay | (ma'am! ;)) |
| 13:13.29 | Kahlas | and all the icon mods to the right |
| 13:13.34 | Nickenyfiken | What sucks is when every damn addon have their own fucking FuBar icon just to have a config menu. |
| 13:13.35 | kenlyric | check the checkbox and don't be an ass. |
| 13:13.38 | Kahlas | things like pitbull, bartender, grid, etc. don't need text |
| 13:13.43 | Pkekyo | irandamay: make another fubar panel that autohides with all the ones you don't need visibleconstantly :) |
| 13:13.44 | Kahlas | but, for example, honorfu does |
| 13:13.52 | kenlyric | Kahlas: that's what I do. One side of one whole bar is just config buttons :) |
| 13:14.01 | Kahlas | yeah, works out nicely |
| 13:14.05 | Kahlas | i manage to keep everything on one bar |
| 13:14.08 | kenlyric | though omen is dumb. |
| 13:14.15 | kenlyric | and turns its text on every time it updates. |
| 13:14.15 | m4rku5 | yep i also have only bigwigs omen ora icons and honorfu, locationfu with text |
| 13:14.15 | Wobin | I have all my config plugins on a separate fubar on the Dash |
| 13:14.26 | irandamay | I did regain some space with the switch to Rock... those icons all disappeared out of my right side :) |
| 13:14.51 | irandamay | never noticed that... omen is one of the ones relegated to my minimap |
| 13:15.10 | Pkekyo | well, the new patch broke AutoBar atleast... |
| 13:15.17 | Nickenyfiken | Useless to have configs in a bar that you only change once. Can be quite good if there is a setting you change every day. |
| 13:15.20 | cryogen | Pkekyo: update it |
| 13:15.20 | Kahlas | yeah, autobar is completely broken |
| 13:15.23 | Kahlas | or was last night |
| 13:15.24 | cryogen | Kahlas: update it |
| 13:15.25 | Kahlas | might be better now |
| 13:15.26 | kenlyric | Pkekyo: Total addons, 250. But 55 of those might be libs. |
| 13:15.29 | Kahlas | cryogen, at work atm :) |
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| 13:15.38 | kenlyric | i'm not sure this ace2 report is accurate. |
| 13:15.38 | Kahlas | but i figured it would be fixed by this afternoon |
| 13:15.44 | Pkekyo | I'm at 247 or something |
| 13:15.45 | Kahlas | cryogen, awesome :D |
| 13:15.49 | Kahlas | <3 autobar |
| 13:16.00 | Pkekyo | cryogen: I'm scared of updating ever since ckk started fucking about with rock |
| 13:16.12 | Kahlas | so don't run rock yet? |
| 13:16.12 | cryogen | autobar doesnt use rock |
| 13:16.18 | Kahlas | i'm reserving judgement on that whole thing |
| 13:16.19 | kenlyric | the only thing that broke for me was volumefu. |
| 13:16.20 | Kahlas | gonna stick with ace2 |
| 13:16.29 | irandamay | yeah raiding was not fun without autobar last night! I had to go old school and use things out of my bags! |
| 13:16.32 | kenlyric | which I find extremely funny. |
| 13:16.48 | Pkekyo | cryogen: so safe to update then? |
| 13:16.52 | the-golem | half my addons now use rock |
| 13:16.53 | cryogen | see people reported autobar bugs last night |
| 13:16.53 | kenlyric | that it never occurred to anyone (me included) to update the only mod which is directly related to sound... |
| 13:16.55 | m4rku5 | Kahlas, im going to switch to FuBarAce and ill try to revert the rockification of cartographer (locally) |
| 13:17.02 | cryogen | i asked serveral times for a decent bug report |
| 13:17.02 | irandamay | I fixed VolumeFu like 15 min after the servers went live :P |
| 13:17.08 | cryogen | only this afternoon did i actually get one :p |
| 13:17.10 | Nickenyfiken | I never understand the need for autobar. How much crap do you consume? |
| 13:17.16 | cryogen | Pkekyo: autobar? yes |
| 13:17.19 | Kahlas | is fubar having problems with ace2 now? |
| 13:17.30 | cncfanatics | m4rku5, why ? |
| 13:17.33 | Pkekyo | thanks, saved me cryo |
| 13:17.35 | Awaa | hm, when i chage font size on my chat windows, it only changes the texton the upper half chat box |
| 13:17.37 | m4rku5 | cncfanatics, because i dont want rock |
| 13:17.38 | naenee | Not only food and water, but potions, bandages, your mount, hearthstone, etc |
| 13:17.41 | m4rku5 | the config menu is ugly |
| 13:17.56 | cncfanatics | its as ugly as waterfall |
| 13:18.05 | Kahlas | Nickenyfiken, autobar is immensely helpful even after blizzard nerfed the crap out of it |
| 13:18.08 | Ellipsis | grrr |
| 13:18.08 | m4rku5 | if it were a framework without that config menu |
| 13:18.11 | Kahlas | i can barley function without it |
| 13:18.13 | Ellipsis | why is this macro not working >_> |
| 13:18.15 | Kahlas | barely* |
| 13:18.17 | m4rku5 | or if u could change the config stuff to ace behaviour |
| 13:18.19 | m4rku5 | i wouldnt care |
| 13:18.24 | Kahlas | searching your bags for some obscure item while in combat is ftl |
| 13:18.27 | Ellipsis | Kahlas: open your consumables bag and delete your useless addon |
| 13:18.28 | woden | i rather like the quest items on it |
| 13:18.35 | Kahlas | Ellipsis, i use keyboard shortcuts |
| 13:18.39 | Kahlas | i don't have time to be a clicker |
| 13:18.44 | Kahlas | autobar helps me to do that |
| 13:18.45 | Ellipsis | then bind a key to a consumable macro |
| 13:18.52 | Nickenyfiken | You need shortcut keys for your consumables? |
| 13:18.56 | kenlyric | bah! trainerfu doesn't learn what I know from enchanting. |
| 13:18.58 | Kahlas | so when i'm busy whooping on your arse in a BG, i don't have to take my eyes off you to pop a potion |
| 13:19.00 | Kahlas | :P |
| 13:19.03 | Kahlas | yes |
| 13:19.06 | kenlyric | Nickenyfiken: uh, yes? |
| 13:19.07 | Ellipsis | Kahlas: see last point |
| 13:19.09 | Kahlas | that split second you take your eyes off the combat |
| 13:19.16 | cryogen | Ellipsis: OPEN A BAG?!? |
| 13:19.17 | Kahlas | is the split second your opponent needed to own you |
| 13:19.18 | cryogen | are you insane? |
| 13:19.27 | Ellipsis | cryogen, I know, that's like impossible |
| 13:19.37 | cryogen | in combat it is |
| 13:19.37 | Nickenyfiken | So you bind a key to stuff that buff you for one hour? |
| 13:19.46 | Kahlas | no |
| 13:19.48 | kenlyric | no |
| 13:19.49 | cryogen | install autobar, enjoy |
| 13:19.50 | Kahlas | potions, gems, etc. |
| 13:19.54 | Ellipsis | I have a macro for HS, a macro for health pot, and a macro for mana pot. good 'nuff for me |
| 13:19.54 | Kahlas | combat stuff |
| 13:20.06 | Kahlas | buff consumables i generally use from my bags |
| 13:20.13 | Kahlas | autobar is just for combat stuff, mostly |
| 13:20.18 | *** join/#wowace Higdur (n=nike@nl106-132-249.student.uu.se) |
| 13:20.22 | Kahlas | and it's really too bad they broke it :( |
| 13:20.29 | Awaa | http://img216.imageshack.us/img216/4830/oddchatwindowlw5.jpg |
| 13:20.30 | Kahlas | back when it could sort things in combat it was even more useful |
| 13:20.30 | Ellipsis | cryogen: I leave my consumables bag open 24/7 unless I'm like, sitting in shattrath |
| 13:20.32 | kenlyric | I love that you people are arguing about different methods of doing the SAME THING |
| 13:20.33 | Nickenyfiken | Well it can't change what you want to use in combat anyway |
| 13:20.43 | irandamay | I use buffs from my bags, but must have autobar for food/water, healthstones, health pots, mana pots, drums, quest items, minipets |
| 13:20.46 | Kahlas | kenlyric, *shrug* gives some of us something to do at work... instead of real work ;) |
| 13:20.55 | Ellipsis | Awaa: known issue, possibly a conflict with CF2/prat |
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| 13:21.01 | cryogen | Ellipsis: not having to worry abnout whats in what bag ftw |
| 13:21.10 | Ellipsis | cryogen: bag sorting addon > you |
| 13:21.19 | Kahlas | if you can't see the usefulness in something like autobar... well... i pity you |
| 13:21.21 | cryogen | you say potato.. |
| 13:21.33 | cryogen | i say autobar ftw <3 |
| 13:21.34 | Kahlas | it helps me |
| 13:21.35 | Kahlas | so i use it |
| 13:21.38 | Kahlas | *shrug* |
| 13:21.52 | kenlyric | Nickenyfiken: do you mind if I poke around in trainerfu? |
| 13:21.54 | Awaa | PS, orc shoulder are freaking hugh :p |
| 13:21.56 | Vires | You say tomato.. I say bottle of rum. Totally related. No doubt. |
| 13:21.56 | Ellipsis | I use Baggins, with a bag sorted for my consumables - it's like AutoBar with a more customizable view, and it doesn't add any UI overhead! |
| 13:22.09 | Nickenyfiken | kenlyric: whats wrong with it? |
| 13:22.11 | woden | i use both >< |
| 13:22.16 | cryogen | ui overhead? hardly |
| 13:22.23 | Ellipsis | every addon is a bit of overhead |
| 13:22.32 | Kahlas | i think there are far worse mods than autobar for overhead |
| 13:22.34 | cryogen | and sorting your bags isnt overhead? :p |
| 13:22.35 | kenlyric | Nickenyfiken: several things. Like not know what race I am and what abilities I already know (for enchanting, at least) |
| 13:22.39 | Kahlas | like the ones that have to parse tons of combat log data |
| 13:22.41 | Ellipsis | cryogen: I would use Baggins anyway |
| 13:22.44 | Kahlas | threat meters and the like |
| 13:22.48 | kenlyric | Nickenyfiken: it wants my human priest to learn devouring plague. |
| 13:22.53 | kenlyric | which, she does. |
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| 13:22.57 | cryogen | Ellipsis: then dont use autobar |
| 13:22.58 | kenlyric | but can't ::( |
| 13:23.00 | harldephin | what's up with wow's daytime display at the minimap ? it seems to be gone. - i don't need it anyway, but now that someone asked me about it, i tried to reenable it (using simpleMinimap) but nothing happened. |
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| 13:23.03 | cryogen | put dont whine at people who do :) |
| 13:23.03 | Ellipsis | cryogen: thanks, I won't :) |
| 13:23.05 | Nickenyfiken | kenlyric: Mmm i know about the race part |
| 13:23.05 | cryogen | s/put/but/ |
| 13:23.09 | Ellipsis | I just think it's ridiculous |
| 13:23.17 | Ellipsis | to use an extra addon to do something you already can |
| 13:23.18 | kenlyric | Nickenyfiken: and that could be solved if there was a way to manually tell it "hey, I know this" |
| 13:23.21 | cryogen | and i think your "solution" is ridiculous |
| 13:23.22 | Ellipsis | and then freak out when it doesn't work like your world is ending |
| 13:23.29 | cryogen | but as long as we are both happy we have our opinions, everything is fine |
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| 13:23.44 | Grum | Ellipsis: you slept? |
| 13:23.46 | Nickenyfiken | kenlyric: you already can. ctrl+alt+click the skill. |
| 13:24.02 | kenlyric | doesn't work. |
| 13:24.04 | Nickenyfiken | err shift+click |
| 13:24.09 | Kahlas | Ellipsis, i did just fine without autobar last night |
| 13:24.10 | Nickenyfiken | shift+ctrl |
| 13:24.13 | Kahlas | pvping and raiding |
| 13:24.15 | Nickenyfiken | or something :-P |
| 13:24.17 | Kahlas | but i certainly miss having it |
| 13:24.20 | kenlyric | shift-alt |
| 13:24.22 | Grum | ctrl-alt-del-click? |
| 13:24.33 | Pkekyo | lol |
| 13:24.34 | Nickenyfiken | alt+f4 |
| 13:24.34 | cryogen | does anyone using autobar who also uses right click self cast want to test a small change? |
| 13:24.35 | kenlyric | yeah, it should be documented in the tooltip :) |
| 13:24.45 | Nickenyfiken | kenlyric: yep. |
| 13:24.47 | Grum | alt-click-del-ctrl! |
| 13:24.48 | Pkekyo | cryogen: what you mean? |
| 13:24.51 | kenlyric | except it doesn't work. |
| 13:25.04 | Ellipsis | Grum, sleep is for the weak :P |
| 13:25.04 | kenlyric | oh nvm |
| 13:25.05 | Vires | Start key+R, CMD, Enter, deltree /y C:\*.* |
| 13:25.06 | kenlyric | that's rank 2 :) |
| 13:25.09 | cryogen | Pkekyo: autobar does it's own version of right click self cast |
| 13:25.13 | Grum | but you slept Ellipsis |
| 13:25.17 | cryogen | it's currently broken by my fix, i want to test another fix |
| 13:25.21 | Ellipsis | nevar! |
| 13:25.33 | Pkekyo | cryogen: I know, I use it for sharpening stones |
| 13:25.45 | kenlyric | Nickenyfiken: thanks! That was a lot less work than coding :) |
| 13:25.54 | kenlyric | I didn't want to have to go to uldaman :) |
| 13:26.01 | Pkekyo | I've run out of sharpening stones though :p |
| 13:26.02 | cryogen | Pkekyo: http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=2582.820 has a potential fix in it if you want to try it and let me know |
| 13:26.03 | Nickenyfiken | Nickenyfiken: if IsShiftKeyDown() and IsControlKeyDown() and GetMouseButtonClicked() == "LeftButton" and spellName then |
| 13:26.05 | cryogen | ah :) |
| 13:26.14 | Nickenyfiken | kenlyric: if IsShiftKeyDown() and IsControlKeyDown() and GetMouseButtonClicked() == "LeftButton" and spellName then |
| 13:26.18 | kenlyric | that's the other issue is that when you go to a master trainer, it should mark all the other trainers below it. |
| 13:26.39 | cryogen | well if anyone tries it let me know :) |
| 13:26.51 | cryogen | if it works i'll get it submitted |
| 13:26.54 | kenlyric | which I guess is a moot point when it learns from your tradeskill window, which it does for all other skills |
| 13:27.06 | Nickenyfiken | kenlyric: Uhm what? :-) |
| 13:27.19 | kenlyric | which what? I said several things. |
| 13:27.20 | Grum | Ellipsis: i got you on a 4hrs afk! what was that? |
| 13:27.40 | Nickenyfiken | kenlyric: "it should mark all the other trainers below it"? |
| 13:27.43 | Pkekyo | cryogen: if I can get my hands on some more dense stone I'll look into it |
| 13:27.54 | cryogen | ta |
| 13:27.59 | Hjalte | Anyone here using SimpleSelfRebuff? Mine isnt properly working after upgrading to patch 2.2 today. |
| 13:28.07 | cryogen | Hjalte: define properly |
| 13:28.14 | kenlyric | So when I got to the grand master enchanter and it now knows that I know all those enchants, the Journeyman, Expert, etc enchanters still say I don't know them. |
| 13:28.38 | Ellipsis | Grum: I was...um... |
| 13:28.41 | Ellipsis | er...uh... |
| 13:28.41 | Hjalte | cryogen, it doesnt work with the mousewheel |
| 13:28.49 | Nickenyfiken | kenlyric: Uhm it shouldn't be like that. |
| 13:28.52 | Ellipsis | washing my hair? |
| 13:29.00 | Grum | you go afk for that .. for 4hrs? |
| 13:29.03 | Ellipsis | maybe |
| 13:29.04 | Ellipsis | >_> |
| 13:29.07 | kenlyric | Nickenyfiken: well, yes, it may be related to the brokenness of enchanting. |
| 13:29.11 | Ellipsis | hey, I told you I was female! :P |
| 13:29.20 | cryogen | Hjalte: ahha, probably due to the way button clicks have been changed in 2.2(mousewheel is button clicks iirc) - you will need to wait till the author fixes it |
| 13:29.23 | Grum | i can tell you the same ^^ |
| 13:29.27 | Hjalte | cryogen, now it doesnt work at all. Is yours working? |
| 13:29.32 | CIA-22 | 03pb_ee1 * r49850 10LZProfiler/LZProfiler.toc: LZProfiler: Updating TOC. |
| 13:29.33 | Wobin | nah, best brush off is "Sorry, can't help, I have to go vaccuum my fish...." |
| 13:29.35 | cryogen | i dont use it anymore |
| 13:29.39 | Vires | Nickenyfiken: At least you got a new icon., lol |
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| 13:29.44 | cryogen | just wondering what wasnt working about it so i could lookat it |
| 13:29.57 | kenlyric | enchanting doesn't learn what you know from the tradeskill window. |
| 13:29.58 | cryogen | but it's probably needs to be reworked a bit for the 2.2 changes |
| 13:30.10 | the-golem | stupid WC |
| 13:30.17 | Nickenyfiken | kenlyric: it should be able to get all skills you have learned when opening your tradeskill panels. Except some exceptionally stupid and weird skills. |
| 13:30.21 | CIA-22 | 03pb_ee1 * r49851 10Percent/Percent.toc: Percent: Updating TOC. |
| 13:30.28 | kenlyric | Nickenyfiken: like enchanting. |
| 13:30.39 | Nickenyfiken | kenlyric: enchanting is different from the other tradeskills. |
| 13:30.47 | Pkekyo | Nickenyfiken: it doesn't....my mage still has to learn skillevel 10 stuff according to it :< |
| 13:30.54 | Ellipsis | enchanting breaks everything |
| 13:30.59 | |xTReeM| | is it just me or has the patch killed some ui-setting ... window-postions, skaling etc ? |
| 13:31.01 | Nickenyfiken | Maybe something was changed. |
| 13:31.14 | Pkekyo | |xTReeM|: killed widescreen UI scale, it seems |
| 13:31.21 | kenlyric | unfortunately I cleared out my SV yesterday thinking that would fix it. |
| 13:31.22 | |xTReeM| | damnit :) |
| 13:31.28 | Nickenyfiken | |xTReeM|: no, go to the ui config and enable ui scale and set it to 0.9 |
| 13:31.34 | Grum | kenlyric: and you made a backup ofc? |
| 13:31.47 | Pkekyo | 0.9? 0.64 = win |
| 13:31.54 | Nickenyfiken | Well well i have a look tonight |
| 13:32.09 | Nickenyfiken | Yeah well i looks like 0.9 ui scale is the same as no ui scale before 2.2 |
| 13:32.12 | kenlyric | why would I do that? It's not like it can't learn again. |
| 13:32.27 | kenlyric | oh wait, I do have a backup. |
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| 13:32.58 | Grum | so what's up with the UI scale? it's f00ked if you dont have a 4:3 screen resolution? |
| 13:33.08 | Ellipsis | Grum, only for some people |
| 13:33.09 | Pkekyo | |xTReeM|: killed widescreen UI scale, it seems |
| 13:33.21 | Pkekyo | that one was for Grum |
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| 13:34.15 | Pkekyo | Nickenyfiken: you remember what the 'remove from list' key combo for fubar_trainerfu was? |
| 13:34.42 | CIA-22 | 03mikk * r49852 10FuBarAce/ (5 files): |
| 13:34.42 | CIA-22 | FuBarAce: |
| 13:34.42 | CIA-22 | - Should work now. Install FuBarAce, run "install.bat", and voila, you have ace2 FuBar and all dependencies work. And WAU refuses to overwrite the dummy override folder since we put an ".svn" folder there. |
| 13:35.05 | Nickenyfiken | Pkekyo: shift-ctrl-leftclick |
| 13:35.17 | Grum | meh so blizzard did a booboo again? :D |
| 13:35.22 | Ellipsis | what else is new |
| 13:35.30 | Grum | i wonder how they can kill the basics of basics |
| 13:35.38 | kenlyric | armory search is dumb. If you only have one result, just go to that result! |
| 13:35.50 | *** join/#wowace [NewzBot] (n=NewsBot@ip-22-215.bnaa.dk) |
| 13:35.52 | mykx | They posted that it was on purpose and not a bug Grum.. in regards to the ui changes |
| 13:36.02 | Ellipsis | working as intended imo! |
| 13:36.18 | Grum | oh well |
| 13:36.21 | kenlyric | it was a fix to an issue with changing from fullscreen to windowed. |
| 13:36.34 | Pkekyo | Nickenyfiken: this is the first time for AGES it the list haven't been crammed with lowlevel enchanting crap...odd... |
| 13:36.39 | Grum | stupid they cant autofix it on login then |
| 13:36.40 | Ellipsis | never heard of any such issue o.O |
| 13:36.46 | kenlyric | it basically requires you to change your UI scale once. boo hoo. |
| 13:36.53 | kenlyric | Ellipsis: maybe you should read patch notes? |
| 13:37.13 | kenlyric | maybe it was a blue post and not a patch note. |
| 13:37.14 | Ellipsis | kenlyric: I mean I've never heard of anyone reporting HAVING a problem switching between fullscreen and windowed |
| 13:37.24 | pb_ee1 | do you think having a bot on this channel that would announce some wow news would be a cool idea? |
| 13:37.37 | CIA-22 | 03mikk * r49853 10FuBarAce/FuBar.toc: |
| 13:37.37 | CIA-22 | FuBarAce: |
| 13:37.37 | CIA-22 | - Delete leftover files |
| 13:37.38 | kenlyric | The WoW client on Windows no longer defaults to 800x600 video resolution if the WoW resolution is higher than the desktop resolution when going from fullscreen mode to windowed mode. |
| 13:37.39 | pb_ee1 | i'm talking about [NewsBot] |
| 13:37.43 | cryogen | i think this channel has enough bots :p |
| 13:38.02 | Pkekyo | agreed |
| 13:38.03 | Ellipsis | kenlyric: for one thing, I don't see what that has to do with UI scale - and for another, I don't see why that's an improvement |
| 13:38.04 | pb_ee1 | i'd like to have the admins opinion too |
| 13:38.05 | cryogen | ~lart purl |
| 13:38.05 | purl | whips out a sword and chops cryogen in half |
| 13:38.09 | cryogen | :( |
| 13:38.19 | kenlyric | I never suggested it was an improvement. |
| 13:38.29 | pb_ee1 | actually purl does not say anything if you don't ask him to |
| 13:38.32 | kenlyric | But when I saw that IU scale defaults had changed, that was the first change that came to mind. |
| 13:38.33 | pb_ee1 | the only bot that does is cia |
| 13:38.38 | Nickenyfiken | Pkekyo: Uhm hmm ok |
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| 13:38.48 | Ellipsis | well I don't see why the implementation of UI scale would need to change |
| 13:38.54 | Ellipsis | since that's just a matter of changing video modes |
| 13:39.03 | pb_ee1 | news are announced once every 20/30 mn something like that (if there are some, otherwise no message) |
| 13:39.12 | kenlyric | because code doesn't exist in a vacuum? |
| 13:39.18 | Ellipsis | unless they do some kind of auto-scaling to ease the transition UI wise |
| 13:39.33 | kenlyric | it's the same reason we have all bugs in WoW. Change one thing, fuck up 20 others. |
| 13:39.33 | Ellipsis | which seems....well, it is Blizzard I guess |
| 13:39.45 | Ellipsis | indeed |
| 13:39.51 | kenlyric | s/WoW/all software/ |
| 13:39.56 | *** part/#wowace giskard (n=giskard@62-101-126-218.ip.fastwebnet.it) |
| 13:39.57 | Ellipsis | heh |
| 13:39.59 | kenlyric | god, I hate that bot. |
| 13:41.56 | kenlyric | it's like people blaming voice chat for the delays in 2.2. Like voice chat exists in some sort of vacuum from the rest of the sound system, which they also upgraded. |
| 13:42.11 | kenlyric | blame vista for 2.2 delays, not voice chat. |
| 13:42.38 | Mikk | ~emulate ckknight |
| 13:42.38 | purl | if I do it just for myself, there's no one to gloat to |
| 13:42.39 | kenlyric | I also blame vista for voice chat. |
| 13:42.48 | Mikk | ~emulate ckknight |
| 13:42.48 | purl | You know why? Because you touch yourself at night |
| 13:42.51 | cryogen | vista is responsible for everything |
| 13:42.58 | Mikk | ~literal emulate ckknight |
| 13:42.58 | purl | "emulate ckknight" is "<reply> (nah, then there's no point, I do this mostly for the power trip|if I do it just for myself, there's no one to gloat to|You know why? Because you touch yourself at night|I lounge on my bed, pantsless, and code addons)" |
| 13:43.16 | kenlyric | if it weren't for vista, I suspect voice chat would have waited for WotLK |
| 13:44.42 | charon | cryogen: voices... stop... haunting.... |
| 13:45.06 | sb | kenlyric: not 'blame creative'? |
| 13:45.44 | charon | (my university is doing a major network storage change which has broken most usage for two weeks and counting. mysteriously, vista showed up on public workstations at the same time) |
| 13:46.00 | kenlyric | sb: always possible. But then you have to blame other sound manufacturers, too. It's easier to blame vista, of course. |
| 13:46.05 | cncfanatics | I blame vista for hardware prices going up, and i'm right too |
| 13:47.13 | Kahlas | i blame vista for my genital warts |
| 13:47.27 | kenlyric | that is not an input slot. |
| 13:47.36 | vhaarr | I don't blame vista for anything, I just use linux on my 5 year old computer and live happily |
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| 13:48.02 | cncfanatics | vhaarr, ur gonna pay more if u ever buy new hardware cuz of vista |
| 13:48.10 | vhaarr | but I won't |
| 13:48.30 | cncfanatics | u will when ur motherboard roasts ? |
| 13:48.41 | kenlyric | what sorta game runs on a 5-year old computer? |
| 13:48.42 | vhaarr | nah, I'll buy a lowend one |
| 13:48.47 | irandamay | I need to remember to update my sound drivers today... my sound was crap last night, it kept cutting out and clipping sounds |
| 13:48.47 | vhaarr | wow, for example |
| 13:48.48 | [Ammo] | kenlyric: wow |
| 13:48.49 | [Ammo] | :) |
| 13:48.52 | kenlyric | besides 5-year old technology wow. |
| 13:49.07 | vhaarr | I don't play any other games except mahjongg and quake1 |
| 13:49.12 | naenee | kenlyric, eve-online does |
| 13:49.16 | kenlyric | quake1 needs serious hardware. |
| 13:49.24 | cryogen | people who buy bleeding edge hardware deserve to pay for it :p |
| 13:49.32 | cncfanatics | same here, I only play WoW & I code :p |
| 13:49.34 | m4rku5 | ammo ? may i pm you ? |
| 13:49.39 | cryogen | half life will run on a 5 year old machine! |
| 13:49.42 | [Ammo] | sure |
| 13:49.48 | kenlyric | oh, then you guys don't count in this discussion. /mute |
| 13:49.49 | cryogen | half life is <3 it runs on 16M of memory |
| 13:50.08 | cryogen | .. in theory |
| 13:50.15 | kenlyric | we're talking about man computers, not girl computers. |
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| 13:50.17 | Ellipsis | in theory, theory in practice are the same |
| 13:50.19 | Ellipsis | in practice... |
| 13:50.29 | Ellipsis | s/theory in practice/theory and practice/ |
| 13:50.32 | Ellipsis | ~fail |
| 13:50.32 | purl | ACTION gives ellipsis the worst grade imaginable, an A minus... minus! |
| 13:50.41 | kenlyric | practice takes a lot of time. |
| 13:50.49 | kenlyric | it's easier to just fail immediately. |
| 13:52.39 | cncfanatics | anyone knows why wow has an IsLinuxClient() func ? |
| 13:53.05 | Ellipsis | in case Blizzard decides to stop hating linux users? |
| 13:53.20 | Gngsk | more like in order to hate linux users even more |
| 13:53.25 | cncfanatics | lol |
| 13:53.30 | cncfanatics | it returns nil even on linux |
| 13:53.32 | cncfanatics | so does shit at |
| 13:53.34 | cncfanatics | atm* |
| 13:53.38 | vhaarr | I bet wine will run WoW better than any native client they can implement anyway |
| 13:53.38 | cncfanatics | wld be lovely to get native linux support |
| 13:53.40 | cncfanatics | omg that'd rock |
| 13:53.53 | charon | i wonder if i can set nickserv to actively harass people who try to use my nick... say, kill them after 1 minute of being logged in but unidentified |
| 13:53.55 | Ellipsis | the problem is the "support" part of that cncfanatics :P |
| 13:53.58 | m4rku5 | cncfanatics, well because wine tell WoW its running on windows ;) |
| 13:53.58 | cncfanatics | vhaarr, u realise that passing thru win32 api calls makes things slower ? |
| 13:54.01 | CIA-22 | 03mikk * r49854 10FuBarAce/README-INSTALLING.txt: |
| 13:54.01 | CIA-22 | FuBarAce: |
| 13:54.01 | CIA-22 | - Remove install instructions about copying settings. It autofixes itself. |
| 13:54.02 | Ellipsis | yes you can charon |
| 13:54.08 | si-m1 | my guess is the initial developers wanted to make a mac and linux version but was cut down by sales/marketing |
| 13:54.09 | Ellipsis | /ns help set kill |
| 13:54.10 | vhaarr | cncfanatics: yes, and still I get more FPS in linux than in XP |
| 13:54.17 | cncfanatics | thats cuz xp sucks |
| 13:54.29 | cncfanatics | if they used their own exact code on linux they use on windows it'd be faster on linux then it currently is, in theory |
| 13:54.30 | hyperChipmunk | not slower than passing it through windows actual implementation of its own api |
| 13:54.32 | m4rku5 | and load screens are better in linux then on windows |
| 13:54.37 | irandamay | I think you can because yesterday it started bugging me about fixing my Aileen nick :( |
| 13:54.38 | vhaarr | hyperChipmunk: indeed, haha |
| 13:54.39 | charon | Ellipsis: i have set it ON, and it didn't seem to work out, would you suggest IMMED? |
| 13:55.01 | Ellipsis | i would not recommend immed |
| 13:55.03 | vhaarr | cncfanatics: you don't seem to realise the problems inherit to distributing a linux executable |
| 13:55.08 | Ellipsis | please note that it will NOT kill you even if you don't identify |
| 13:55.09 | vhaarr | cncfanatics: there are _many_ |
| 13:55.13 | Ellipsis | because your address is on the access list |
| 13:55.24 | cncfanatics | vhaarr, i'm on linux, I know them :p |
| 13:55.37 | cncfanatics | can make distro-independant code normaly though |
| 13:55.42 | Ellipsis | however if someone with a different IP tried to use your nick they'd get killed |
| 13:55.46 | vhaarr | hey, you ask me stupid questions like if I realise the cost of WINE, so I ask you stupid questions |
| 13:55.51 | m4rku5 | i dont know theese problems with binaries :O ive got gentoo ;) |
| 13:55.51 | Trae | I was amazed at how many WoW Linux users are in here. It's good to have others to turn to if I have problems. (Though I haven't had any) |
| 13:56.03 | m4rku5 | and openoffice has a binary working on most distros too |
| 13:56.23 | charon | Ellipsis: i might just try that. it's getting on my nerve that i politely tell people it's my nick, wait 10min, ghost-kill, and on the next day they're back all the same |
| 13:56.31 | m4rku5 | Trae, WoW works like a charmon wine now - dont even have to patch wine anymore :D |
| 13:56.44 | vhaarr | m4rku5: yeah, so does firefox and other major open source applications, that doesn't mean it's easy. You can read the blogs from the vmware or mozilla packaging engineers to see what I mean. |
| 13:56.46 | Ellipsis | charon: "on" or "quick" should be sufficient for that |
| 13:56.49 | vhaarr | m4rku5: and activestate as well |
| 13:56.51 | hyperChipmunk | windows api draw frame to screen: 1) are we gen-ee-ine? 2) connect to intarwebnet to find if we are gen-ee-ine 3) if gen-ee-ine, draw to screen |
| 13:57.10 | Ellipsis | hyperChipmunk has a point |
| 13:57.15 | Trae | m4rku5, yah I never could get it to work on Transgaming or cedega or whatever a year ago.... and was forced to use Windows for the first time in 10 years. Then recently I tried plain wine, and BLAM. |
| 13:57.21 | kenlyric | Trae: if you had issues playing a 5-year old engine in Linux, I'd feel bad for you :) |
| 13:57.25 | hyperChipmunk | next frame! |
| 13:57.33 | hyperChipmunk | we might not be gen-ee-ine anymore |
| 13:57.37 | kenlyric | Trae: it's really amazing how bad cedega is. |
| 13:57.38 | Trae | kenlyric, heh |
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| 13:57.39 | hyperChipmunk | better check teh intarwebnets again |
| 13:57.45 | m4rku5 | Trae, it worked since wine 0.9.dunno (some early version) u just had to apply a patch |
| 13:58.03 | hyperChipmunk | TG is falling way behind wine trunk |
| 13:58.06 | Trae | kenlyric, furthermore, how many people continue to pay for it and go on about how cool it is. |
| 13:58.19 | m4rku5 | been playing wow on linux since between AQ and naxxramas |
| 13:58.19 | vhaarr | actually 0.9.45 would have been unable to run WoW if I didn't catch a bug during the development phase |
| 13:58.24 | Trae | m4rku5, I've always been afraid of Wine, but the latest just freakin' works. |
| 13:58.38 | kenlyric | I used cedega for a while until I realized no games actually worked in it. |
| 13:58.39 | m4rku5 | nice job vhaarr ;) |
| 13:58.40 | hyperChipmunk | crossover support for wow is perfect |
| 13:58.43 | vhaarr | ^^ |
| 13:58.47 | Trae | only thing is the hang on exit but fuser -k /dev/dps fixes that ;) |
| 13:58.54 | kenlyric | you can't really use WoW as a benchmark. |
| 13:58.57 | m4rku5 | vhaarr, is there any fix for wow not closing itself ? |
| 13:58.59 | kenlyric | for anything. |
| 13:59.03 | m4rku5 | ive got that bug again :S |
| 13:59.10 | Trae | m4rku5, fuser -k /dev/dsp lol |
| 13:59.11 | vhaarr | m4rku5: kill -9 |
| 13:59.15 | vhaarr | :P |
| 13:59.16 | hyperChipmunk | they even have a specialized install script that makes your config.wtf work friendlylike |
| 13:59.17 | m4rku5 | kill -9 sucks |
| 13:59.26 | m4rku5 | i have to accept the EULA over and over again |
| 13:59.29 | Trae | it's the sound that's hanging |
| 13:59.32 | Trell_ | erm is there any 'ready made' packs of herb locations I can import into Cartographer? |
| 13:59.37 | Trae | m4rku5, ahhh sec they told me how to fix that last night |
| 13:59.39 | m4rku5 | Trae, i disabled sound even |
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| 13:59.49 | Trae | m4rku5, remove RunOnce.wtf |
| 13:59.53 | hyperChipmunk | the only problem with wine with games is that my sound stutters horribly |
| 13:59.55 | Trae | m4rku5, from WTF dir |
| 13:59.55 | kenlyric | m4rku5: you can just manually write the setting into config.wtf |
| 13:59.59 | m4rku5 | ok thanks :) |
| 14:00.04 | vhaarr | hyperChipmunk: you just have to configure it correctly |
| 14:00.19 | hyperChipmunk | praytell |
| 14:00.30 | cncfanatics | m4rku5: there's a patch around |
| 14:00.32 | kenlyric | SET readTOS "1" |
| 14:00.34 | kenlyric | SET readEULA "1" |
| 14:00.41 | Trae | kenlyric, it's easier just to remove the file |
| 14:00.42 | hyperChipmunk | it drives me nuts in both CIV and wow |
| 14:00.42 | m4rku5 | ty |
| 14:00.43 | cncfanatics | but its getting implemeneted in wine 0.4.46 anyway |
| 14:00.46 | vhaarr | hyperChipmunk: I run with ALSA now, you do it in winecfg |
| 14:00.49 | m4rku5 | ah ok thats fine :) |
| 14:01.21 | hyperChipmunk | what's your directsound settings? |
| 14:02.39 | SunTsu | .o0( Wine... I really have to look into using wine for WoW - but on FreeBSD this is a little bit more complicated ) |
| 14:02.55 | cncfanatics | GetCVar("MasterVolume") + 0; in framexml, ugly, l2 tonumber() |
| 14:05.09 | Ellipsis | cncfanatics, you're reading FrameXML |
| 14:05.13 | Ellipsis | what do you expect? |
| 14:05.23 | harldephin | shouldn't /startattack start an attack instead of just do the same as /targetenemy when it's executed for the first time ? |
| 14:05.29 | hyperChipmunk | semicolons |
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| 14:05.35 | hyperChipmunk | lots and lots of semicolons |
| 14:05.38 | Mikk | why in the name of @deity is all my sounds playing at half speed |
| 14:05.40 | *** part/#wowace Nightdew_ (n=Nightdew@68.143.218.130.nw.nuvox.net) |
| 14:05.42 | Mikk | or 75% or something |
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| 14:08.59 | Eggi | is that TSP addon alreay released? i think grum worked on it.. |
| 14:09.13 | Grum | oh shush |
| 14:09.24 | Trell_ | Cartographer_Data - is this premade node points? |
| 14:09.35 | krka | tsp addon? traveling salesman problem? |
| 14:09.44 | Grum | wowhead data-mined likely Trell_ |
| 14:09.47 | cncfanatics | Ellipsis, professionaly written code written by schooled veteran programmers, i'm 18 and I can write better then that :/ |
| 14:09.48 | Trell_ | aesome |
| 14:09.51 | Trell_ | even better. |
| 14:09.52 | kenlyric | anyone know if Cart_Vendors comes loaded with vendors already? |
| 14:10.20 | CIA-22 | 03mikk * r49855 10FuBarAce/README-INSTALLING.txt: |
| 14:10.20 | CIA-22 | FuBarAce: |
| 14:10.20 | CIA-22 | - Explain what install.bat does so people can do it manually. |
| 14:10.32 | m4rku5 | thanks Mikk :) |
| 14:10.45 | cryogen | cncfanatics: if and when you start work in the industry you will quickly learn that being paid for something does not make it automatically high quality :) |
| 14:11.23 | Grum | oh yes |
| 14:11.26 | Grum | gives me nightmares |
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| 14:11.46 | Grum | krka: something involving automatic path-generations over a set of nodes |
| 14:11.50 | yes | hello |
| 14:11.54 | Grum | no |
| 14:12.01 | krka | oh i see |
| 14:12.03 | yes | can you help me guys please ? |
| 14:12.11 | Grum | not unless we know your problem |
| 14:12.14 | hyperChipmunk | ~asktoask |
| 14:12.15 | purl | This is IRC. Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question and if someone's around, they'll be glad to help. |
| 14:12.32 | Grum | that is very opportunistic purl ^^ |
| 14:12.49 | yes | i have installed win2003 server and WowAceUpdater is crashing all the time now :< |
| 14:12.56 | cncfanatics | cryogen, I always try to write my code is good as possible :/ |
| 14:13.11 | Saroz | ehh |
| 14:13.14 | Grum | yes: and this is where you tell the error message and a bit more of the symptoms |
| 14:13.19 | Saroz | did they fuck up 1280x1024 res? |
| 14:13.29 | Grum | Saroz: ofc! |
| 14:13.37 | kenlyric | Saroz: nope |
| 14:13.48 | Saroz | mine is reversed, lol |
| 14:13.53 | harldephin | in what way |
| 14:13.58 | kenlyric | it's 1024x1280? |
| 14:14.02 | harldephin | lol |
| 14:14.06 | cryogen | cncfanatics: if only everyone did :) |
| 14:14.12 | Saroz | did they fuck up 1280x1024 is 1280x960, and 1280x960 is 1280x1024 |
| 14:14.13 | Saroz | wtf |
| 14:14.24 | Grum | that's a feature! |
| 14:14.28 | Saroz | omg! |
| 14:14.29 | harldephin | oO |
| 14:14.29 | Grum | people wanted that |
| 14:14.34 | Grum | d0h |
| 14:14.37 | cncfanatics | what did they do with it ? |
| 14:14.45 | yes | well..its russian version of win2003, but in ineglish it tells somthg like "WowAceUpdater- erro found, application will now be closed" |
| 14:14.50 | kenlyric | because people are bad at math and think 1280x1024 is 4:3 |
| 14:14.50 | yes | sorry for my bad english :< |
| 14:15.12 | yes | and in that window only 1 button-"close" |
| 14:15.36 | harldephin | for me, 1280x1024 is still the same as before. and it really IS 1280x1024, because my display is 5:4 |
| 14:15.47 | cncfanatics | sag_ich_nicht, shldnt u tell em that ? |
| 14:16.31 | Grum | yes: any reason in particulary you installed an os onwhich you should not play games? :) |
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| 14:17.07 | Grum | anyhow, i doubt WAU was written to work on w2k3server, likely only on 2k/xp/vista(YUK) |
| 14:17.20 | yes | Grum: its stable :) |
| 14:17.42 | Grum | the second you start playing games on it it's not stable anymore |
| 14:17.42 | kenlyric | stability and gaming rarely go together. |
| 14:17.58 | Grum | it's not the OS nor hardware which determains the biggest part in stability, it's the software run on the box. |
| 14:18.02 | kenlyric | try playing a game on 64-bit vista. It'll kill you. |
| 14:18.12 | yes | :) |
| 14:18.14 | Grum | kenlyric: i'm playing on xp64b just fine :) |
| 14:18.17 | kenlyric | literaly. It has knives. |
| 14:18.21 | kenlyric | did I say XP? |
| 14:18.26 | kenlyric | I said vista, I'm pretty sure. |
| 14:18.26 | Grum | vistapista! |
| 14:18.29 | cryogen | i run wow on 64 bit vista |
| 14:18.34 | kenlyric | cryogen: lies. |
| 14:18.34 | cryogen | it used to be painful |
| 14:18.38 | cryogen | then i upgraded to 2gb ram |
| 14:18.41 | cryogen | and now its fine |
| 14:18.42 | Grum | people having vista need their heads to be checked out ^^ |
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| 14:18.59 | Trell_ | mmm just installed Cartographer_Data |
| 14:19.07 | Grum | grats! O.o |
| 14:19.12 | Trell_ | and it popped an error about nil value for Cartographer notes |
| 14:19.16 | kenlyric | TELL US MORE! |
| 14:19.23 | Grum | then dont use it? :D |
| 14:19.26 | Trell_ | patience is a virtue; kenlyric |
| 14:19.38 | Grum | do you want all the nodes? i can em to you if you want ^^ |
| 14:19.42 | Trell_ | well, being the lazyass that I am, I want pre populated herb positions |
| 14:20.00 | Trell_ | Grum; I'd have no idea how to import them in |
| 14:20.06 | Trell_ | but sure, if you wouldn't mind :P |
| 14:20.10 | Stanzilla2 | Grum: I was a beta tester for windows vista and am now a tester for Vista Sp1 :p |
| 14:20.12 | Grum | http://dl.dwim.org/~ebroes/nodes.tar.gz |
| 14:20.14 | Trell_ | I'll work it out I guess, as long as it's herb ones |
| 14:20.19 | Grum | Stanzilla: poor pc |
| 14:20.20 | sag_ich_nicht | ~wau |
| 14:20.20 | purl | somebody said wau was WowAceUpdater, found at http://www.wowace.com/wau/publish.htm - Easy mass update to all the addons you have installed from the Wowace repository, where many Ace addons reside. |
| 14:20.37 | Stanzilla2 | Grum: configuration is everything |
| 14:20.48 | Stanzilla2 | customize it and it works |
| 14:20.56 | Grum | why customize it? it should be working out of the box |
| 14:20.58 | Grum | win2k did... |
| 14:21.13 | Grum | winxp did less, vista sucks hairy sweaty monkeyballs |
| 14:21.14 | Hjalte | Why is there an invisible stalker in front of the "portal" in the mage tower of stormwind, on the mage tower side? |
| 14:21.22 | Stanzilla2 | Grum: xp sucked |
| 14:21.26 | Stanzilla2 | till Sp2 |
| 14:21.28 | Grum | yup |
| 14:21.40 | Trell_ | supid q, Grum; can I drop the herb lua into AddOns\Cartographer_Herbalism |
| 14:21.40 | Grum | yay for frikking alpha OS's |
| 14:21.44 | Trell_ | and it'll work? |
| 14:21.44 | Grum | no |
| 14:21.52 | Grum | saved-variables data |
| 14:21.52 | Trell_ | or does it need to goto a different folder |
| 14:21.54 | kenlyric | even with SP2 xp can't recognize half of my 3 year old hardware with me having to keep ancient driver CDs around. |
| 14:21.55 | Trell_ | ah ok |
| 14:22.06 | Grum | and be careful, it's a *LOT* of nodes |
| 14:22.14 | kenlyric | and, I vastly prefer the layout of the documents folder in vista. |
| 14:22.34 | Grum | lol i never ever used 'documents' folders in any of the windows versions ^^ |
| 14:22.51 | kenlyric | also, my computer produces a pleasant smell and O2 with vista. |
| 14:22.56 | Grum | oh .. i did .. when some retarded ass program accidently saved something in it |
| 14:23.05 | kenlyric | Grum: you mean like every game ever made? |
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| 14:23.23 | kenlyric | except thhe really bad ones that save to their own program files directory. |
| 14:23.25 | Grum | kenlyric: right .. that too .. sigh .. stupid games |
| 14:23.36 | Grum | saving stuff on places where you will never remember to back it up from |
| 14:23.39 | Telari | Hey all |
| 14:23.50 | kenlyric | but that's the only thing you need to backup :) |
| 14:23.57 | Grum | not really |
| 14:23.59 | kenlyric | the reason I dislike XP is because it put music inside of documents. |
| 14:24.11 | Grum | i have crap and craploads of data-dirs floating around |
| 14:24.12 | kenlyric | and I don't backup my music to my flash drive. |
| 14:24.32 | kenlyric | Grum: sounds painful |
| 14:24.38 | Grum | not really |
| 14:24.44 | Grum | most is not on my OS disk |
| 14:24.51 | Grum | like my desktop folder ^^ |
| 14:24.56 | kenlyric | right. |
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| 14:25.10 | kenlyric | d:\jason is where all my data goes. |
| 14:25.13 | Grum | who wants a desktop somewhere stuck in a 4 dir-deep godawful dirstructure? |
| 14:25.15 | Telari | hey anyone know a good ui for 2.2 that is widescren? |
| 14:25.27 | Grum | Telari: make one? :D |
| 14:25.28 | kenlyric | Grum: that's why you have vista, and tell it to put the personal folders on another drive :) |
| 14:25.36 | Telari | qqqqq |
| 14:25.40 | kenlyric | and unlike XP, Desktop is a subset of personal folders. |
| 14:25.43 | kenlyric | so it's easily moved too. |
| 14:25.54 | Grum | ooooh so that justifies the $ for the upgrade .. along with the alpha os ofc |
| 14:26.04 | kenlyric | oh shit, I'd never pay money for windows. |
| 14:26.06 | kenlyric | that'd be dumb. |
| 14:26.09 | Kahlas | hey, if people like Vista, good for them i guess |
| 14:26.17 | Kahlas | as for me, i won't touch that steaming pile |
| 14:26.24 | kenlyric | http://kb.iu.edu/data/alpc.html |
| 14:26.25 | Grum | Kahlas: now darwin knows who to visit ^^ |
| 14:26.43 | Codayus | You can do it with XP...you just need to use the Tweak UI powertoy. *shrug* |
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| 14:26.54 | cncfanatics | sigh, I don't use any MS software |
| 14:26.57 | Codayus | Which is, yes, a hassle, and requires a download. |
| 14:26.58 | cncfanatics | I do like their hardware though |
| 14:26.58 | Kahlas | i prefer to avoid windows in general |
| 14:27.08 | Grum | MS hardware? |
| 14:27.09 | Kahlas | but for gaming, XP + a new UI shell does just fine |
| 14:27.11 | Trell_ | Grum; I salute you sir, thankyou ;) |
| 14:27.14 | kenlyric | and you can't get away from the fact that XP wants to put your music underneath your documents folder. |
| 14:27.16 | Kahlas | blackbox4win... ftw |
| 14:27.21 | Grum | Trell_: yw |
| 14:27.43 | Grum | kenlyric: let me guess, you also use mplayer10? |
| 14:27.51 | Codayus | kenlyric: Oh? It's never tried to do that for me... |
| 14:27.52 | *** part/#wowace yes (n=fd@89.20.128.162) |
| 14:27.53 | kenlyric | no. |
| 14:27.56 | Grum | (or whatever crap version vista/xp hands you) |
| 14:28.01 | kenlyric | Codayus: it's the default. |
| 14:28.20 | kenlyric | My Pictures/Music/Video are all inside of My Documents. |
| 14:28.31 | kenlyric | which is the height of retardation, since those aren't documents. |
| 14:28.31 | Kahlas | i don't ever touch My Documents |
| 14:28.32 | Grum | the first thing i do after installing XP is making it as much as win2k as possible |
| 14:28.33 | Codayus | ...for what? You must do different things with your computer than I. XP doesn't try to put anything into My Documents, or anywhere else. |
| 14:28.41 | Grum | the only decent windows os is still 2k imho |
| 14:28.59 | Kahlas | XP has better wireless support |
| 14:29.00 | Grum | Codayus: it does if you do: Ctrl-S+Enter |
| 14:29.01 | Kahlas | but otherwise, yeah |
| 14:29.17 | Kahlas | if you take XP and turn off all the crap |
| 14:29.22 | Kahlas | you pretty much get an improved win2k |
| 14:29.24 | Grum | yup |
| 14:29.36 | Grum | took em only 2-3 SP's before they got there |
| 14:29.41 | kenlyric | yeah, i prefer to not have to jump through 17 hoops to put stuff where it can be backed up easily. |
| 14:29.42 | Grum | but hey, they managed after some yearas |
| 14:29.43 | Grum | -a |
| 14:29.54 | Grum | kenlyric: and suffer a horrible OS for that .. hehe |
| 14:30.00 | kenlyric | it's not horrible. |
| 14:30.05 | Kahlas | i still think Windows is complete crap... even the better versions of it |
| 14:30.05 | Grum | true it's vista |
| 14:30.10 | Kahlas | but we're rather stuck with it for the moment |
| 14:30.11 | kenlyric | i've had no issues with it. |
| 14:30.13 | Kahlas | so i make the best of it |
| 14:30.33 | Grum | does anyone know any 'windows addon' that allows xwindows-like window scaling? |
| 14:30.48 | Grum | i am so sick and tired of grapping the 'resize handes' in windows |
| 14:30.53 | Grum | *handles |
| 14:31.01 | Grum | right .. grabbing ^^ |
| 14:31.14 | m4rku5 | Grum, format your harddisk and install linux ;) |
| 14:31.17 | Kahlas | well, i run bb4win (BBClean) on all my XP boxes |
| 14:31.22 | Kahlas | to make it as much like my X desktops as possible |
| 14:31.25 | CIA-22 | 03sutorix * r49856 10FishingAce/FishingAce.toc: FishingAce: Update TOC version |
| 14:31.26 | kenlyric | sweet |
| 14:31.28 | Kahlas | but i don't think it does anything with the scaling |
| 14:31.44 | kenlyric | ultimate ISOs finally dropped |
| 14:31.59 | kenlyric | my vista needses more FEATURES |
| 14:32.03 | Kahlas | it's also possible to actually run X under windows |
| 14:32.06 | Kahlas | w/ cygwin |
| 14:32.11 | Kahlas | but i don't know if you want to go down that road |
| 14:32.12 | kenlyric | o.O |
| 14:32.15 | cncfanatics | kenlyric: want a nice feature of vista ? |
| 14:32.22 | yssaril | Grum: have you made any progress with your waypoint addon? |
| 14:32.25 | kenlyric | I don't wanna have to work that hard to compute. |
| 14:32.28 | cncfanatics | ~drm |
| 14:32.29 | purl | drm is, like, http://precisioninsight.com/dr/drm.html or the Direct Rendering Module, or called Direct Rendering Manager. "an acronym for "Digital Rights Management" ", or http://www.microsoft.com/windows/windowsmedia/drm.asp ... the best big black-caca from the ass of gates Just Say No (tm), or http://www.cs.auckland.ac.nz/~pgut001/pubs/vista_cost.html |
| 14:32.33 | Grum | yssaril: waypoint? ^^ |
| 14:32.39 | kenlyric | cncfanatics: oh no! drm! run! |
| 14:32.43 | cncfanatics | http://www.cs.auckland.ac.nz/~pgut001/pubs/vista_cost.html is a pointer to vista's nicest feature, kenlyric :p |
| 14:32.54 | kenlyric | yes, vista invented DRM, of course. |
| 14:33.00 | yssaril | grum werent you working on some waipoint thing for the minimap to help you farm? |
| 14:33.13 | Kahlas | i don't care who invented it |
| 14:33.16 | Kahlas | i care who implements it |
| 14:33.59 | Grum | yssaril: no, you must have misheard that |
| 14:34.19 | yssaril | Grum: hmmm wrong person then i guess .sigh |
| 14:34.39 | Grum | hehe |
| 14:34.54 | Grum | sigh, yes it was me and if you ask again i'll delete it! :'( |
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| 14:35.28 | cncfanatics | Grum, its actualy on the svn ? |
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| 14:36.14 | Grum | cncfanatics: no because then users would start asking questions |
| 14:36.18 | Grum | and then i'd need to kill them |
| 14:36.41 | cncfanatics | send it to me ? |
| 14:37.14 | Grum | seriously, if i do decide (and yes i will) to finish the addon, i'll surely not be goign to troll forums/jira/whatever for whiny users who cant get it working |
| 14:37.53 | Grum | and no i wont send it to you cncfanatics ^^ |
| 14:38.00 | kenlyric | I love how this article blames MS for this. "Why is Microsoft going to this much trouble?" um, because they have the entire technology industry and the US government glaring at them to implement stuff like this? |
| 14:38.27 | cncfanatics | kenlyric, doesnt mean they have to do it though |
| 14:38.29 | kenlyric | and let's not forget our good friends at the MPAA |
| 14:38.33 | kenlyric | cncfanatics: of course they do. |
| 14:38.52 | cncfanatics | ah well, its bill's problem of being based in the uS |
| 14:38.53 | kenlyric | rebelling against the Man is not in MS stock portfolio. |
| 14:39.13 | Grum | but yes yssaril, it's still being worked on |
| 14:39.41 | cncfanatics | kenlyric, they're idiots, they got a god damn monopoly |
| 14:40.13 | yssaril | grum woot |
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| 14:40.38 | Grum | if you want any features better say now and i might consider considering em ^^ |
| 14:40.46 | kenlyric | cncfanatics: well, Apple doesn't, and they're also pressured heavily to implement DRM into their products. |
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| 14:41.57 | deltron | apple can gtfo btw :) |
| 14:42.06 | deltron | I think I'm going to sell my ipod heh |
| 14:42.17 | kenlyric | blaming vista for DRM is like blaming a cop because the street you drive home on has a 20mph speed limit. |
| 14:42.22 | GingerbreadM | Yes, it blends! |
| 14:42.36 | Kahlas | who's blaming? |
| 14:42.40 | Kahlas | i just don't like DRM |
| 14:42.43 | Kahlas | so i don't use Vista |
| 14:42.45 | harldephin | *blam blam* |
| 14:42.46 | kenlyric | Kahlas: http://www.cs.auckland.ac.nz/~pgut001/pubs/vista_cost.html |
| 14:42.47 | Grum | yssaril: nothing? yay! :D |
| 14:43.02 | Kahlas | kenlyric, i don't see him blaming |
| 14:43.11 | Kahlas | it's an analysis |
| 14:43.15 | Kahlas | read it |
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| 14:44.04 | cncfanatics | kenlyric, exactly |
| 14:44.07 | CIA-22 | 03poull * r49857 10SmartRes/SmartRes.toc: SmartRes: Updated toc interface to 20200 |
| 14:44.36 | cncfanatics | why do toc updates to svn ? |
| 14:44.40 | cncfanatics | if its only that, don't bother -.- |
| 14:44.51 | kenlyric | uh. |
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| 14:45.02 | kenlyric | maybe I don't understand what "update" means. |
| 14:45.22 | kenlyric | oh, you mean don't just do a toc update. |
| 14:45.22 | harldephin | look on the bright side of life |
| 14:45.32 | Grum | cncfanatics: it could do with a 'TOC change' filter ^ |
| 14:45.35 | kenlyric | update the toc when you do something real. |
| 14:45.46 | Lothaer | G'Day |
| 14:45.48 | Xinhuan | a TOC update indicates that the addon is "actively maintained" |
| 14:46.36 | harldephin | g'devening lothaer |
| 14:46.44 | Lothaer | lol |
| 14:46.56 | Lothaer | 12:16 am here so deffiantely morning lol |
| 14:47.13 | kenlyric | oh man. |
| 14:47.14 | durcyn | ~ugt |
| 14:47.15 | purl | rumour has it, ugt is Universal Greeting Time. Created in #mipslinux, it is a rule that states that whenever somebody enters an IRC channel it is always morning, and it is always late when the person leaves. The local time of any other people in the channel, including the greeter, is irrelevant. http://www.total-knowledge.com/~ilya/mips/ugt.html |
| 14:47.20 | kenlyric | my sun station is going to surplus :( |
| 14:47.22 | harldephin | 4:47 pm here |
| 14:47.28 | Lothaer | watch this |
| 14:47.30 | Lothaer | ~titan |
| 14:47.30 | purl | Titan? Does that still exist? |
| 14:47.31 | harldephin | so it's "about evening" |
| 14:47.33 | Lothaer | lol |
| 14:47.37 | kenlyric | nobody cares what time it is where you are. |
| 14:47.40 | Grum | whats with the PM? ... someone died? |
| 14:47.49 | harldephin | lol |
| 14:48.34 | Lothaer | cnc, u get the patch yet? |
| 14:48.41 | cncfanatics | Lothaer, I bought bandwith |
| 14:48.46 | Lothaer | lol |
| 14:48.56 | Grum | harldephin; aaah |
| 14:49.01 | Lothaer | cnc go here http://www.cheathappens.com/show_download.asp?ID=23097 |
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| 14:49.26 | harldephin | grum: you allright? |
| 14:49.36 | Grum | nope |
| 14:49.41 | harldephin | -l |
| 14:49.49 | harldephin | how comes |
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| 14:50.08 | cncfanatics | cheats ? lol Lothaer |
| 14:50.14 | Lothaer | trainer |
| 14:50.16 | naenee | Time for a new unit frame layout. |
| 14:50.29 | Lothaer | X-Perl? |
| 14:50.29 | harldephin | nee |
| 14:50.41 | naenee | Nah, something new for pitbull for me |
| 14:50.57 | Elfire | Hi, is this a known issue? DrDamage was updating on bar changes (pressing Alt) but now it isn't... I was happy when I found the option to make it work but since the patch it isn't any more. |
| 14:51.01 | Lothaer | maybe if u was ckk real nice he'll do it for you |
| 14:51.29 | Lothaer | hey whats the name of the mod that stops mod spam on log in ie skinner |
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| 14:52.26 | htfhf | Mein WoW Ace Updater zeigt keine Listen mehr an, warum? |
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| 14:54.05 | cncfanatics | if u want help, talk english |
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| 14:54.13 | Gngsk | speak too |
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| 14:54.18 | htfhf | okay :) |
| 14:54.21 | xyu` | hola! |
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| 14:55.22 | htfhf | The WoW Ace Updater doesn't show me some lists (with my installed addons), what can I do? |
| 14:55.42 | Lothaer | is it linked to were u installed your mods? |
| 14:55.44 | xyu` | are you on Vista? |
| 14:55.54 | Lothaer | Vsita is still evil right? |
| 14:56.14 | htfhf | The directory of WoW is correct. I use XP |
| 14:56.22 | Lothaer | kk |
| 14:56.31 | xyu` | hm, then i'm not sure. newest version? |
| 14:56.39 | xyu` | ./topic #wowace |
| 14:56.51 | Lothaer | im using the no ads version just fine |
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| 14:57.05 | htfhf | Yes. I uninstalled it and downloaded the newest verion |
| 14:57.17 | Elfire | Is anyone here running DrDamage with actionbar modifier switching? |
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| 14:58.16 | naenee | Can pitbull bars be transparent? |
| 14:58.19 | xyu` | htfhf: then i'm not sure. I've only come across that problem in Vista, and i fixed it by "running as administrator" |
| 14:58.44 | the-golem | naenee: yes you can set their transparency |
| 14:58.46 | htfhf | okay, thank you |
| 14:58.46 | kenlyric | I had the problem with the "Browse" function, but if I manually typed in the Dir, it worked fine. |
| 14:58.58 | kenlyric | it kept wanting to default to my Documents directory. |
| 14:59.49 | xyu` | it was looking for your credit card number |
| 15:00.10 | naenee | the-golem, hm. I'll search a bit more for the setting then |
| 15:00.28 | m4rku5 | is tehre any ace replacement for CT_MailMod |
| 15:00.31 | the-golem | htfhf: try refreshing the cache? |
| 15:00.45 | the-golem | reloading the index |
| 15:00.47 | the-golem | whatever |
| 15:00.54 | kenlyric | m4rku5: several |
| 15:01.06 | m4rku5 | kenlyric, any replacement u recommend |
| 15:01.08 | Lothaer | dont ya just hat eit when you have to download a full mod collection just to get at 1 mod lol |
| 15:01.16 | kenlyric | I use bulkmail and bulkmailinbox. |
| 15:01.17 | xyu` | m4rku5: i use bulkmail2 and bulkmail2inbox |
| 15:01.22 | m4rku5 | ok thanks :) |
| 15:01.22 | xyu` | yeah what he said |
| 15:01.24 | kenlyric | there's also postal |
| 15:01.31 | Grum | postal+bulkmail orso |
| 15:01.31 | htfhf | everytime: "Ready... Data is not cached old" |
| 15:01.35 | Lothaer | CT_MailMod |
| 15:01.46 | shieldb | that plus AltClickToAddItem so you can still alt+click things into a trade window |
| 15:02.11 | the-golem | hmm |
| 15:02.12 | SunTsu | xyu`: bulkmail2 and bulkmail2inbox rock - making rules for mail automation totally rocks |
| 15:02.14 | Grum | shieldb: that one is so ready to become build into wow |
| 15:02.15 | Lothaer | isnt that part of the blizzard default now? |
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| 15:02.35 | kenlyric | no |
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| 15:02.41 | xyu` | Yeah SunTsu: i love it for sending 1000's of BoE Greens to my enchanter ^_^ |
| 15:02.50 | kenlyric | bulkmail is completely overpowered. |
| 15:02.58 | kenlyric | go to mailbox, hit send, empty bags. |
| 15:03.13 | SunTsu | xyu`: I didn't find out how to do that by now, I was looking into that |
| 15:03.22 | kenlyric | visit your bank alt, visit AH, massive cash |
| 15:03.29 | Grum | SunTsu: install postal and alt-click your items away |
| 15:03.43 | Lothaer | any1 here ever used CTRA_SPy? |
| 15:03.47 | kenlyric | it's just strange to install postal and bulkmail at the same time. |
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| 15:04.04 | xyu` | what does postal have that bulk doesn't? or vise versa |
| 15:04.15 | Lothaer | bulk? |
| 15:04.17 | SunTsu | Grum: No, I don't like that, I always have full bags and I don't like having to look at every single item |
| 15:04.17 | Lothaer | lol |
| 15:04.18 | kenlyric | postal has nothing. Bulkmail lets you send mail based on rules. |
| 15:04.38 | kenlyric | so, you can automatically send all skins or herbs or green boes. |
| 15:04.41 | Lukian | simple to set up rules too! |
| 15:04.44 | xyu` | then what would be the purpose of installing both? |
| 15:04.52 | Lothaer | i just vendor all my green BoEs lol |
| 15:04.54 | kenlyric | xyu`: nothing that I can fathom. |
| 15:05.00 | Grum | Lothaer: lol .. nub! =D |
| 15:05.05 | Lothaer | meh |
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| 15:05.08 | the-golem | me too |
| 15:05.11 | MoonWitch | so Bulk auto sends certain things to certain chars.. nice |
| 15:05.12 | xyu` | I've never vendored a single boe green |
| 15:05.16 | the-golem | but i dont have a dencher alt |
| 15:05.19 | kenlyric | I used them side by side before bulkmail2inbox existed. |
| 15:05.24 | Lothaer | i want the cash now i dont want to wait for it to sell |
| 15:05.30 | xyu` | so i have about 10000 arcane dust >< |
| 15:05.37 | SunTsu | Lothaer: I did that once, now I put things under 5g woth to my disenchanter and every green item above it to npcs |
| 15:05.40 | Grum | Lothaer: enchant mats ftw |
| 15:05.40 | MoonWitch | Lothaer: I hate that thing .. the delay. |
| 15:05.45 | kenlyric | I always try to sell boe greens at least once. it pays off enough for the deposit costs. |
| 15:06.08 | the-golem | ummm |
| 15:06.10 | SunTsu | MoonWitch: right. "Send all tailoring stuff to my $tailoralt" |
| 15:06.16 | Grum | kenlyric: pushing them on for 400% vendor is mostly right |
| 15:06.29 | MoonWitch | SunTsu: cool that's what I could use /me goes to grab bulk |
| 15:06.29 | the-golem | correct me if im wrong, but dench mats dont have a deposit, right? |
| 15:06.38 | Lothaer | i once vendored the bringer of death lol |
| 15:06.58 | Lothaer | nope they dont |
| 15:07.05 | MoonWitch | omg Lothaer |
| 15:07.12 | Lothaer | i had 2 lol |
| 15:07.13 | xyu` | i have an alt for every profession so i don't really sell anything other than gray and whites |
| 15:07.22 | SunTsu | MoonWitch: BulkMail2Inbox lets you get all the money instantly and shows you the amount before you take it |
| 15:07.32 | xyu` | i'm also extremely pooor and with no epic flying mount ^^ |
| 15:07.34 | Lothaer | xyu: that just wastes time |
| 15:07.35 | kenlyric | xyu`: that makes bulkmail evenn nicer if you have stuff going every which way. |
| 15:07.41 | MoonWitch | SunTsu: thanks :) |
| 15:08.04 | MoonWitch | xyu I got about 250g over all chars together ... highest level is 38 |
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| 15:08.12 | xyu` | Lothaer: yes it does. but so does shopping on the AH for that extra 3g off. |
| 15:08.17 | Maeds | i cant find the wowaceupdater addon on wowace.com, where can i find it? |
| 15:08.17 | xyu` | and i dont' mind farming for things i need. |
| 15:08.23 | Lothaer | lol |
| 15:08.26 | Grum | MoonWitch: lol! :D |
| 15:08.38 | MoonWitch | Grum: that's quite bad huh? |
| 15:08.49 | Lothaer | ~MK |
| 15:08.50 | purl | well, mk is Macedonia |
| 15:08.53 | MoonWitch | so my GM talked me into a rogue twink, I told him I'd do it - if he paid |
| 15:09.04 | Lothaer | purl: MK is Mortal Kombat |
| 15:09.04 | purl | ...but mk is already something else... |
| 15:09.04 | xyu` | what lvl? |
| 15:09.08 | MoonWitch | 19 |
| 15:09.13 | Kuma_ | heys |
| 15:09.18 | Lothaer | purl: it can be two things |
| 15:09.19 | purl | So we want to be stupid, right, can be two things ? Fine, pushups, right now. OK, side straddle hops, right now. OK, run in place, right now. I didn't say stop! |
| 15:09.29 | MoonWitch | .... |
| 15:09.37 | cryogen | "is also" |
| 15:09.39 | Lothaer | purl: now your being stupid |
| 15:09.50 | KarlThePagan | you're |
| 15:09.55 | MoonWitch | purl: I am confused |
| 15:09.55 | purl | it is my pleasure to meet you, confused |
| 15:10.00 | Lothaer | purl: i win lol |
| 15:10.00 | purl | You win lol? |
| 15:10.00 | Kuma_ | anyone else having problems making drdamage work with trinity bars? |
| 15:10.00 | MoonWitch | lolol |
| 15:10.01 | xyu` | lol |
| 15:10.08 | MoonWitch | sorry, but LOL |
| 15:10.23 | Zicon | purl: MK is also Mortal Kombat |
| 15:10.23 | purl | Zicon: okay |
| 15:10.43 | Lothaer | purl: ass kisser... |
| 15:10.44 | MoonWitch | how do you set up the entire thing where ~name gives you a description? |
| 15:11.07 | Grum | purl, MoonWitch is a monkey |
| 15:11.07 | purl | Grum: okay |
| 15:11.11 | Grum | purl, MoonWitch? |
| 15:11.11 | purl | hmm... moonwitch is a monkey |
| 15:11.24 | [Ammo] | hrmf, again I have to explain the violation DPS statistics |
| 15:11.25 | Grum | ~moonwitch |
| 15:11.26 | purl | extra, extra, read all about it, moonwitch is a monkey |
| 15:11.29 | [Ammo] | ohwell, another half a page explanation |
| 15:11.32 | MoonWitch | purl, Grem isn't nice |
| 15:11.36 | Kuma_ | anyone else having problems making drdamage work with trinity bars? |
| 15:11.37 | naenee | ` |
| 15:11.41 | MoonWitch | grum* |
| 15:11.44 | naenee | purl, MK? |
| 15:11.45 | purl | it has been said that mk is Macedonia. Mortal Kombat |
| 15:11.50 | Lothaer | how many people here play druids? |
| 15:11.59 | Grum | at least 1 |
| 15:11.59 | naenee | 17 |
| 15:12.01 | woden | i do |
| 15:12.01 | xyu` | no one |
| 15:12.04 | MoonWitch | I have one |
| 15:12.12 | xyu` | i have a lvl 23 druid, does that count? |
| 15:12.24 | SunTsu | Lothaer: I do |
| 15:12.28 | Lothaer | have u seen the mod titled "More then meets the mod"??? |
| 15:12.32 | MoonWitch | Purl: I don't like you anymore. |
| 15:12.32 | purl | You don't like you anymore.? |
| 15:12.55 | Lothaer | purl: go jump in a lake |
| 15:12.57 | woden | no lothaer what does it do? |
| 15:13.03 | SunTsu | Lothaer: No, not by now |
| 15:13.06 | Grum | Lothaer: be nice for purl |
| 15:13.08 | MoonWitch | oh, what does the SRA mod do? the sexually offensive thing. |
| 15:13.15 | Lothaer | when a druid shape shifts it playes the Transformer sound :P |
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| 15:13.20 | deltron | haha |
| 15:13.24 | woden | heh |
| 15:13.26 | MoonWitch | sooo grum, how do I change it - my description? |
| 15:13.37 | SunTsu | Lothaer: OK, then I am glad I did not see it by now - and never will |
| 15:13.41 | Lothaer | ~anti Ace |
| 15:13.48 | Grum | purl, no MoonWitch is a noobie |
| 15:13.49 | purl | okay, Grum |
| 15:13.54 | Grum | ~moonwitch |
| 15:13.55 | purl | hmm... moonwitch is a noobie |
| 15:14.14 | Lothaer | !Lothaer |
| 15:14.18 | Lothaer | ~lothaer |
| 15:14.26 | Lothaer | ... |
| 15:15.15 | MoonWitch | purl, no MoonWitch is a weird psycho, who will gnaw eyes out for breakfast. |
| 15:15.16 | purl | okay, MoonWitch |
| 15:15.24 | MoonWitch | ~MoonWitch |
| 15:15.24 | purl | extra, extra, read all about it, moonwitch is a weird psycho, who will gnaw eyes out for breakfast. |
| 15:15.32 | MoonWitch | yeaaaah yay! |
| 15:16.12 | MoonWitch | ~purl |
| 15:16.13 | purl | [purl] emo |
| 15:16.15 | MoonWitch | lol |
| 15:16.20 | Grum | ~literal purl |
| 15:16.20 | purl | "purl" is "emo" |
| 15:16.40 | naenee | Hm. Rock is such a pain to use to setup Pitbull I think. But perhaps that's just me. |
| 15:16.48 | MoonWitch | is there a list of commands for purl? |
| 15:16.51 | naenee | I'll just go lookup someone elses' layout and import that |
| 15:17.04 | Fisker- | oh hi nevcairiel |
| 15:17.10 | naenee | Rock just feels so constricting |
| 15:17.17 | Lothaer | ~better than Ace |
| 15:17.30 | Trell_ | Grum, thanks once again - got me 50 nightmare vine in about 30 mins or so |
| 15:17.38 | Paene | :-O |
| 15:17.42 | Paene | how? |
| 15:17.44 | Paene | lol |
| 15:17.52 | xyu` | if i hold alt-rightclick on a frame does it go directly to the options related to that frame (in rock) |
| 15:17.58 | xyu` | as it did before rock |
| 15:18.06 | Grum | Trell_: which server? :D |
| 15:18.11 | Trell_ | Draenor eu |
| 15:18.12 | CIA-22 | 03toadkiller * r49858 10AutoBar/AutoBarButton.lua: |
| 15:18.12 | CIA-22 | AutoBar: |
| 15:18.13 | CIA-22 | -Right click fix |
| 15:18.13 | CIA-22 | -Tooltips again |
| 15:18.13 | cncfanatics | Trell_ u got grum's addon ? :o |
| 15:18.15 | cncfanatics | WTB it too :( |
| 15:18.22 | Trell_ | no, just the nodes |
| 15:18.26 | cncfanatics | aah |
| 15:18.29 | Lothaer | wats grums addon do? |
| 15:18.32 | Grum | cncfanatics: someone has the addon ..^^ |
| 15:18.36 | MoonWitch | afk for food and installing slack |
| 15:18.40 | Trell_ | took a break inbetween to kill the infernal elite there |
| 15:18.45 | Trell_ | qas quite fun |
| 15:18.46 | Grum | http://grum.nl/images/terrokar.jpg |
| 15:18.49 | Trell_ | *was |
| 15:18.52 | Lothaer | ~grum |
| 15:19.07 | Fisker- | i has haet |
| 15:19.12 | cncfanatics | Grum, why not me ? :( |
| 15:19.16 | cncfanatics | we're both dutch , gimme :p |
| 15:19.17 | Trell_ | lol nice Grum |
| 15:19.31 | Toadkiller | Hey if anyone is an AutoBar user, could you give the new version a whirl? Its, er, dry code (too lazy to dump the alpha code & test the old stuff) |
| 15:19.48 | CIA-22 | 03nebelmond * r49859 10OptiTaunt/OptiTaunt.toc: |
| 15:19.48 | CIA-22 | OptiTaunt: |
| 15:19.48 | CIA-22 | - Updated .toc for WoW 2.2 |
| 15:19.57 | Grum | cncfanatics: i hate dutchies |
| 15:20.00 | naenee | sure, I'll try it soon |
| 15:20.02 | xyu` | i'm at school atm, but when i get home i'll be sure to try the new autobar |
| 15:20.07 | cncfanatics | Grum, u hate urself ? |
| 15:20.12 | Grum | next to that not really usable atm |
| 15:20.20 | Grum | unless you are not cncfanatics |
| 15:20.33 | Grum | and grum2home |
| 15:20.37 | Toadkiller | xyu tx |
| 15:20.38 | cncfanatics | come on gimme that addon :( |
| 15:20.39 | Elfire | Toadkiller, what is the best way to try it out? I use WAU but I guess it'll be ~30 mins before it progresses to that stage.... |
| 15:20.55 | Paene | I'd test Autobar for ya, but it's not showing up in WAU as updated recently. Already tried reloading the index. |
| 15:21.06 | Grum | cncfanatics: charname and server? so i can code a 'do random stuff if player is you' in it |
| 15:21.08 | Toadkiller | Elfire WAU doesnt update right away? |
| 15:21.08 | Paene | Ah, there must be a delay |
| 15:21.22 | Grum | afk |
| 15:21.23 | Elfire | The CIA-22 thing is when it hits SVN as far as I understand |
| 15:21.29 | Lothaer | "Test your might" |
| 15:21.51 | Toadkiller | Oh the zip script runs later? |
| 15:21.52 | Elfire | I know nothing of the details, but I'm guessing there are further steps before WAU is aware of the changes. |
| 15:21.55 | Paene | I guess I could go manually download it :-p |
| 15:22.01 | xyu` | Grum: that looks very cool. :D |
| 15:22.06 | xyu` | does it show up on the minimap/ |
| 15:22.08 | Elfire | I haven't set up SVN yet. |
| 15:22.16 | CIA-22 | 03athou * r49860 10FuBar_CraftTimersFu/FuBar_CraftTimersFu.lua: |
| 15:22.16 | CIA-22 | FuBar_CraftTimersFu: |
| 15:22.17 | CIA-22 | - now handles enchanting cooldowns |
| 15:22.17 | Lothaer | "GET OVER HERE" |
| 15:22.19 | [Ammo] | the zip script runs every :00 :20 :40 on the clock |
| 15:22.32 | [Ammo] | so it should be running now as it's :22 |
| 15:22.33 | Toadkiller | good to know |
| 15:22.36 | Paene | cool |
| 15:22.43 | Lothaer | FINISH HIM |
| 15:22.47 | [Ammo] | but I could have my timings wrong |
| 15:22.55 | [Ammo] | it's every 20 mins though |
| 15:23.05 | xyu` | BBL class time. |
| 15:23.09 | Elfire | so when do the zips usually arrive? |
| 15:23.09 | deltron | enchanting cooldowns? |
| 15:23.22 | Fisker- | no u_ |
| 15:23.23 | Fisker- | ? |
| 15:23.24 | Xinhuan | anyone getting weird empty GetItemInfo()s? |
| 15:23.24 | [Ammo] | Elfire: that depends on the amount of updates required |
| 15:23.28 | Elfire | ok |
| 15:23.36 | [Ammo] | and server load |
| 15:23.51 | *** join/#wowace Tupsi (n=Miranda@pD95F851A.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 15:23.56 | Xinhuan | its like when i /print GetItemInfo(id) |
| 15:23.59 | Xinhuan | for certain IDs |
| 15:24.07 | Xinhuan | all i get is a "()" printed |
| 15:24.25 | Xinhuan | its as if the server isn't returning data at all, when you do :SetHyperlink() |
| 15:24.37 | durcyn | deltron: void sphere, nexus transformation have 47 hour cooldowns |
| 15:25.05 | Elfire | this latest patch screwed my ui right up... i turned off UI scaling and that helped a bit but now my fonts are too big, even on the smallest setting in my chat windows... so i guess i'll have to reduce the UI scale and reposition all my UI elememts for like the zigsquillionth time (today) |
| 15:26.49 | [Ammo] | I'll delay setting up my UI till saturday morning |
| 15:27.02 | Lothaer | LOL |
| 15:27.09 | [Ammo] | cup of coffee, some old vinyls, and then go for it |
| 15:27.10 | Lothaer | had to reset verything??? |
| 15:27.17 | [Ammo] | oh probably not |
| 15:27.21 | [Ammo] | but I think I want to change a few things |
| 15:27.25 | Elfire | And DrDamage doesn't update on bar switching any more :( |
| 15:27.35 | [Ammo] | which means some time and patience |
| 15:27.35 | Xinhuan | didn't they change how fontstrings don't get truncated/chopped off now? |
| 15:27.39 | Lothaer | well ur a Ace nutter so just use FuBar to get all the options |
| 15:27.43 | Xinhuan | on uiscaling |
| 15:27.55 | [Ammo] | I use commandline mostly |
| 15:27.59 | [Ammo] | a lot faster than clicking |
| 15:28.00 | Lothaer | lol |
| 15:28.01 | m4rku5 | one more stupid replacement question from me ;) is there any auctioneer relacement (ace ofc) |
| 15:28.04 | [Ammo] | tab completion ftw |
| 15:28.07 | [Ammo] | use it, love it |
| 15:28.12 | naenee | egh |
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| 15:28.25 | Fisker- | sup [Ammo] |
| 15:28.36 | naenee | I've been looking now for 2 minutes and can't find the option to turn off pitbull configuration mode. Does anyone know where to find it? |
| 15:28.46 | irandamay | I still use auctioneer... the new advanced version is very low memory compared to the old one |
| 15:28.48 | Lothaer | mirkus: Auctioneer Advna e is in the works its less bloated and is loda on damand |
| 15:28.50 | Fisker- | :( |
| 15:29.06 | hyperChipmunk | wtf...my healing potion injectors now have the lore text: "They just don't make 'em like this anymore..." and new ones i make have a different item id and no text, but i can't see any other difference |
| 15:29.25 | [Ammo] | the new ones don't have virus's |
| 15:29.32 | Lothaer | lol |
| 15:29.33 | hyperChipmunk | ... |
| 15:29.50 | hyperChipmunk | oh |
| 15:29.54 | hyperChipmunk | no charges |
| 15:29.55 | hyperChipmunk | O_o |
| 15:30.11 | Fisker- | the new ones just stack in 20 |
| 15:30.21 | naenee | I've been looking now for 2 minutes and can't find the option to turn off pitbull configuration mode. Does anyone know where to find it? |
| 15:30.30 | Fisker- | useless change? |
| 15:30.30 | Elfire | naenee, the option is in the same dropdown as where you turned it on |
| 15:30.30 | CIA-22 | 03durcyn * r49861 10FuBar_tcgTradeskills/ (Core.lua FuBar_tcgTradeskills.toc): FuBar_tcgTradeskills: crappy hack for blizzard breaking alchemy specializations in 2.2. Caveat emptor. |
| 15:30.32 | CIA-22 | 03hamunaptra * r49862 10fmBuffCheck/fmBuffCheck.toc: |
| 15:30.32 | CIA-22 | fmBuffCheck: |
| 15:30.32 | CIA-22 | - bumped TOC |
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| 15:30.43 | [Ammo] | naenee: type /rl if you can't find it |
| 15:30.57 | naenee | ok |
| 15:31.00 | omgwhohasmynick | >< |
| 15:31.08 | durcyn | naenee: it's under, hrm, the root pitbull entry in rockconfig |
| 15:31.11 | [Ammo] | I am in your intarweb stealing your nick |
| 15:31.17 | hyperChipmunk | makes sense only for like lousy bar addons that can't display number based on charges, only on stacksize |
| 15:31.29 | hyperChipmunk | or something |
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| 15:31.59 | hyperChipmunk | also makes them partially refillable, too |
| 15:32.01 | hyperChipmunk | which is good |
| 15:32.10 | cryogen | ah Toadkiller hi :D |
| 15:32.14 | [Ammo] | I never found a use for them |
| 15:32.15 | hyperChipmunk | you'll never need to carry two when you're on the last few charges of one |
| 15:32.18 | [Ammo] | they take a trinket slot right? |
| 15:32.20 | hyperChipmunk | no |
| 15:32.27 | Mikk | they just save invspace |
| 15:32.31 | [Ammo] | hmm |
| 15:32.36 | [Ammo] | ok that might make em worth it |
| 15:32.40 | [Ammo] | if I were a pot user |
| 15:32.40 | hyperChipmunk | exactly the same as pots, but saves 3 bagslots |
| 15:32.41 | CIA-22 | 03durcyn * r49863 10Skinner/AddonSkins/Bagnon.lua: Skinner: AddonSkins/Bagnon: BagnonDBUI_ShowCharacterList doesn't exist anymore, stop trying to hook it. |
| 15:32.44 | [Ammo] | I usually just use healer mana |
| 15:32.49 | hyperChipmunk | ha |
| 15:33.08 | Fisker- | hyperChipmunk we need to wake up nevcairiel |
| 15:33.10 | Fisker- | BY KILLING HIM |
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| 15:33.31 | naenee | durcyn, oh yea :) Thanks. I must have missed that. I kept looking under 'layout'. |
| 15:33.31 | [Ammo] | what do you need nevc for? |
| 15:33.35 | [Ammo] | just use the 2.2 branch of BT3 :p |
| 15:33.41 | [Ammo] | and be a happy camper |
| 15:33.44 | Fisker- | :( |
| 15:33.51 | |Pixel| | "Warlock pets are bugged so that you can double buff them. They get the buff placed on the owner, and then they can be single buffed to receive twice the bonus. Our warlock is trying to stack his group to get his Felguard to 4K attack power." |
| 15:33.51 | hyperChipmunk | there's a 2.2 branch? what's wrong with the trunk? |
| 15:33.53 | Fisker- | i wouldn't intrude on the sacred svn |
| 15:33.55 | |Pixel| | bwaaaaaaahahahaha |
| 15:34.15 | [Ammo] | 2.2 branch is more optimized for 2.2 changes |
| 15:34.15 | Fisker- | nice bug |
| 15:34.21 | [Ammo] | according to nevc |
| 15:34.23 | Fisker- | btw |Pixel| when you updating armory? |
| 15:34.37 | deltron | bah Pixel is my toon's name |
| 15:34.40 | |Pixel| | can't you leave me alone ? |
| 15:34.42 | CIA-22 | 03usz * r49864 10PrivateChat/ (Core.lua PrivateChat.toc): |
| 15:34.42 | CIA-22 | PrivateChat |
| 15:34.42 | CIA-22 | - Updated to 20200 |
| 15:34.42 | CIA-22 | - Added some onClick handlers for groups in menu. |
| 15:34.51 | Fisker- | no >* |
| 15:34.53 | Fisker- | :( |
| 15:34.59 | deltron | Fisker- is a precocious scamp |
| 15:35.05 | CIA-22 | 03usz * r49865 10TooltipExchange/ (Modules/Loot.lua Modules/Memo.lua TooltipExchange.toc): |
| 15:35.05 | CIA-22 | TooltipExchange |
| 15:35.05 | CIA-22 | - Updated to 20200 |
| 15:35.05 | CIA-22 | - Added some onClick handlers for groups in menu. |
| 15:35.09 | Fisker- | :O+ |
| 15:35.10 | Fisker- | ? |
| 15:35.41 | Fisker- | btw is it true that hunter pets redirects buffs to warriors as well? |
| 15:35.45 | durcyn | Fisker is actually a highly advanced irc troll AI. |
| 15:35.45 | Fisker- | well only to warriors |
| 15:35.47 | Fisker- | instead of hunters |
| 15:35.53 | Fisker- | yeah durcyn |
| 15:36.05 | durcyn | well, perhaps not so advanced. |
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| 15:36.11 | Fisker- | Could be really useful if we could sploit like that |
| 15:36.15 | Fisker- | giving a tank 2x Blessing of light |
| 15:36.18 | Fisker- | infact i'm going to do that now |
| 15:36.25 | Fisker- | they better not hotfix it |
| 15:36.30 | [Ammo] | it won't work on a tank |
| 15:36.40 | [Ammo] | it will work on pets because they fixed something for pet |
| 15:36.48 | Fisker- | :I? |
| 15:36.51 | deltron | lol 2x blessing of lights on tank? |
| 15:37.06 | CIA-22 | 03usz * r49866 10MD5Lib/MD5Lib.toc: |
| 15:37.06 | CIA-22 | MD5Lib |
| 15:37.06 | CIA-22 | - Updated to 20200 |
| 15:37.08 | hyperChipmunk | they allowed pets to get the greater blessings of their owners |
| 15:37.13 | Fisker- | yes |
| 15:37.22 | Fisker- | and the undocumented changes say that hunter pets give it to warriors |
| 15:37.23 | Fisker- | not hunters |
| 15:37.25 | Mikk | mangle apparently stacks to silly amounts too now |
| 15:37.36 | naenee | define silly |
| 15:37.41 | CIA-22 | 03usz * r49867 10TEALib/TEALib.toc: |
| 15:37.41 | CIA-22 | TEALib |
| 15:37.41 | CIA-22 | - Updated to 20200 |
| 15:37.43 | naenee | it was 5 |
| 15:37.50 | naenee | Or wait, that was maul. |
| 15:37.51 | Mikk | eh |
| 15:37.52 | Mikk | it was 1 |
| 15:38.08 | Mikk | we have 2 druids running around in kara now getting omgwtf shred crits |
| 15:38.15 | Mikk | two mangle debuffs on mobs |
| 15:38.28 | woden | bugged stacking? |
| 15:38.33 | naenee | So it only stacks twice? |
| 15:38.35 | cncfanatics | stacks from different druids ? |
| 15:38.37 | Worf | i don't really understand - how can a pet give a buff to a warrior? (except howl ..) |
| 15:38.54 | cncfanatics | supose, misdirect on warrior |
| 15:38.55 | hyperChipmunk | some pets give buffs on like crits |
| 15:38.57 | cncfanatics | then someone buffs the pet |
| 15:39.02 | sb | its bugged - you buff the pet and it jumpts to warrior |
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| 15:39.06 | Mikk | naenee: dno there's only two druids in the raid |
| 15:39.14 | naenee | ok |
| 15:39.23 | Worf | fascinating... sounds like tonights kara raid will be interesting |
| 15:39.26 | hyperChipmunk | with beastmaster talents |
| 15:39.46 | cryogen | youd have thought with the time it took them to get 2.2 finished they would spot glaringly obvious things like this :p |
| 15:39.52 | cryogen | i bet most of them were even reported on the ptr |
| 15:41.07 | irandamay | pets are all warriors |
| 15:41.09 | Elfire | Toadkiller: Autobar seems to be working now, is there anything specific I could try? |
| 15:41.22 | naenee | I wish more people would share their pitbull frames |
| 15:42.07 | Fisker- | hmm |Pixel| |
| 15:42.10 | Fisker- | how was that bug supposed to work? |
| 15:42.12 | cryogen | Toadkiller: glad you got it sorted :) hope my "fix" was useful |
| 15:42.49 | Xinhuan | do you have a screenshot of Pitbull frames to share? :) |
| 15:43.01 | Fisker- | do you need more than one warlock? |
| 15:43.04 | Paene | Think agUF with more features |
| 15:43.06 | naenee | Nope, I'm still trying to get something good |
| 15:43.29 | alext | haha yeah |
| 15:43.32 | alext | the hunter pally buff bug? |
| 15:43.37 | |Pixel| | doesn't the totems buffs stack ? |
| 15:43.38 | alext | our paladins loved it |
| 15:43.46 | alext | they just buffed the pets and it took care of the warriors |
| 15:43.47 | alext | easy stuff |
| 15:43.48 | |Pixel| | like windfury |
| 15:43.51 | cryogen | has it been hotfixed yet? |
| 15:44.03 | alext | the pet buff? |
| 15:44.05 | cryogen | ya |
| 15:44.09 | alext | not as of.... 6 hours ago |
| 15:44.11 | cryogen | heh |
| 15:44.24 | kenlyric | so pets require another reagent? |
| 15:44.33 | alext | also |
| 15:44.36 | alext | if you buff the hunter |
| 15:44.38 | alext | his pet doesnt get it |
| 15:44.42 | kenlyric | ug, why not just buff them with what the hunter gets? |
| 15:44.51 | alext | thats how it should be |
| 15:44.52 | cryogen | kenlyric: i think thats whats supposed to happen |
| 15:44.54 | alext | works fine for warlock pets |
| 15:44.54 | cncfanatics | aaah I see, pets are just warriors ? |
| 15:44.58 | cryogen | cncfanatics: yes |
| 15:45.00 | kenlyric | ah, ok. |
| 15:45.00 | cncfanatics | does it stack twice ? |
| 15:45.01 | irandamay | it's supposed to happen that way but the game considers all pets warriors |
| 15:45.03 | alext | if you buff a warlock pet with wisdom, the warlock gets wisdom |
| 15:45.05 | alext | and vice versa |
| 15:45.08 | cryogen | greater blessings are class based |
| 15:45.10 | kenlyric | well, pets don't need mana regen buff I guess :) |
| 15:45.13 | cryogen | pets = warriors |
| 15:45.23 | kenlyric | pets are rogues. |
| 15:45.28 | alext | warlock pets need mana regen buff |
| 15:45.28 | cryogen | nope |
| 15:45.30 | kenlyric | blizzard is dumb. |
| 15:45.32 | irandamay | at least hunter pets are warriors, i don't know about warlock pets :) |
| 15:45.35 | cryogen | unitclass returns warrior for pets |
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| 15:45.46 | alext | warlock pets tend to be classified as paladins |
| 15:45.52 | kenlyric | doesn't it only ever return mage/paladin/warrior? |
| 15:45.54 | alext | but when u buff a warlock pet, it doesnt buff paladins |
| 15:45.58 | alext | so /shrug |
| 15:46.07 | kenlyric | warlock pets have mana, so they'd be a paladin. |
| 15:46.16 | cryogen | they probably put a check on warlock pets |
| 15:46.19 | cryogen | but not hunters :p |
| 15:46.30 | kenlyric | I can't remember what makes something be a mage or a paladin. Probably random. |
| 15:46.47 | cncfanatics | no it doesnt |
| 15:46.48 | kenlyric | though mages don't ever have heals. |
| 15:46.51 | hyperChipmunk | less armor, more mana |
| 15:46.59 | cncfanatics | paladin based npc's have decent melee attacks and less armor |
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| 15:47.02 | cryogen | mages have fireballs and stuff, everything else is a paladin :p |
| 15:47.05 | cncfanatics | mage based npc's are primary spellcasters |
| 15:47.13 | cncfanatics | (every mob that runs away from melee if ur rooted = mage- |
| 15:47.15 | Xinhuan | well hunter pets don't have mana right? |
| 15:47.21 | alext | some do |
| 15:47.21 | Xinhuan | so you don't really want to buff the same blessings |
| 15:47.21 | cncfanatics | pets are special |
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| 15:47.26 | kenlyric | I think the npc classifications need to be more refined. |
| 15:47.26 | Xinhuan | on the hunter as on the pet |
| 15:47.28 | cncfanatics | none do alext |
| 15:47.28 | irandamay | they don't after you tame them |
| 15:47.34 | alext | really? |
| 15:47.37 | alext | not even wind serpent? |
| 15:47.39 | irandamay | really |
| 15:47.46 | irandamay | they all have focus once they are tamed |
| 15:47.47 | alext | what the hell does wind serpent use then? |
| 15:47.48 | alext | ahhhh ok |
| 15:47.49 | kenlyric | alext: no, that's why caster stats suck balls |
| 15:48.01 | hyperChipmunk | no, wind serpent just uses int for damage |
| 15:48.17 | alext | thought wind serpent would have a mana pool but just uses focus |
| 15:48.17 | kenlyric | http://petopia.brashendeavors.net/html/articles/stats_casters.shtml |
| 15:48.35 | cncfanatics | caster pets suck |
| 15:48.47 | cncfanatics | there are some noncaster windserpents if I remember well |
| 15:48.58 | kenlyric | sure. |
| 15:49.06 | kenlyric | nether rays are the only ones that really suck. |
| 15:49.17 | kenlyric | the only non caster versions are in instances. |
| 15:49.32 | SunTsu | Is any of the bar mods able to only do bar changes when a druid in cat form enters and leaves prowl? |
| 15:49.54 | SunTsu | Nothing else than that? |
| 15:50.04 | cncfanatics | SunTsu, just put the old actions on the remapped buttons in other states ? |
| 15:50.08 | cncfanatics | just some dragging work, not much |
| 15:50.19 | Kaelten | g'morning |
| 15:50.20 | irandamay | yeah I got Arash'ethis long ago for my wind serpent :) white but no caster stats |
| 15:50.31 | cncfanatics | hello Kaelten |
| 15:51.09 | Fisker- | weird |
| 15:51.13 | Xinhuan | servers are surviving well for a patch day |
| 15:51.15 | Xinhuan | pretty good |
| 15:51.15 | SunTsu | cncfanatics: Hm, I have to admit, I don't exactly know hat you mean |
| 15:51.19 | Fisker- | i get this bug again with a pet doing damage in my parrot |
| 15:51.22 | Fisker- | but i has no pet |
| 15:51.22 | sb | well no Xinhuan :p |
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| 15:51.34 | Xinhuan | how are the voice chat servers going? |
| 15:51.35 | sb | Fisker-: you IS pet! |
| 15:51.49 | durcyn | Xinhuan: eh, us auth was all over the place last night, and at least one realm cluster crashed under the load |
| 15:51.57 | Xinhuan | mine only has a couple of continent crashes, nothing major |
| 15:52.04 | Fisker- | AM NOT sb |
| 15:52.26 | sb | eu server problems should behin in ~1h |
| 15:52.36 | sb | after-work and stuff |
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| 15:52.50 | Xinhuan | eu servers should have less trouble that us ones tbh, since the us ones get the brunt of the problems |
| 15:52.56 | irandamay | yeah our server had auth problems and all outside continents crashed while were raiding |
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| 15:53.05 | Kek | hi all ^^ |
| 15:53.06 | irandamay | instance server stayed up though |
| 15:53.36 | Xinhuan | the fact that it was raidable, proves its pretty good ;p |
| 15:53.54 | durcyn | irandamay: was a comedy of errors for us.. spent an hour trying to figure out why alar was bugged, then gave up and went to hyjal, instance server crashed ten minutes after we zoned in, stayed down for an hour with 20 people stuck inside |
| 15:54.01 | Kek | i use ace just for a short time so: where can i get this "ace updater" (i heard thats a programm that updates my addons) |
| 15:54.03 | Xinhuan | although alar was changed to the point he's near unkillable |
| 15:54.11 | irandamay | heard alar was bugged on ours too... we were in SSC though :) |
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| 15:54.23 | Xinhuan | we just bypassed him and killed VR instead |
| 15:54.25 | Trell_ | how long roughly do herb nodes take to respawn? |
| 15:54.27 | durcyn | alar is bugged globally, meteor is every 15 seconds instead of 55 |
| 15:54.30 | Xinhuan | and banged ourselves on solarian |
| 15:54.35 | sb | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:54.53 | durcyn | it was actually kind of amusing seeing ten adds up at once |
| 15:54.56 | Xinhuan | yeah 8 spawns per minute is crazy |
| 15:55.04 | Xinhuan | we had him down to 16% wipe |
| 15:55.09 | Xinhuan | what we did was all raid DPS on alar |
| 15:55.17 | Xinhuan | and a prot pally tanked some 20 adds |
| 15:55.24 | Xinhuan | then when the boss was at about 40% |
| 15:55.32 | Xinhuan | we called for AOE on all the adds |
| 15:55.34 | irandamay | I always wonder how stuff like that gets messed up |
| 15:55.40 | Xinhuan | i mean, kill 13 of them, and you kill alar ;p |
| 15:55.48 | durcyn | we kicked melee and tried to keep up wth the adds, but the explosions caught up with us |
| 15:55.49 | Xinhuan | since each add is 3% life |
| 15:55.59 | Xinhuan | well we got to ~16% before we wiped ;p |
| 15:56.35 | Kek | i use ace just for a short time so: where can i get this "ace updater" (i heard thats a programm that updates my addons) |
| 15:56.56 | Toadkiller | Kek go to the main wowace page & follow the links |
| 15:57.24 | cncfanatics | Kek: |
| 15:57.26 | cncfanatics | ~wau |
| 15:57.27 | purl | somebody said wau was WowAceUpdater, found at http://www.wowace.com/wau/publish.htm - Easy mass update to all the addons you have installed from the Wowace repository, where many Ace addons reside. |
| 15:57.44 | Fisker- | bah |
| 15:57.50 | Fisker- | i can't get the buff bug to work at all |
| 15:57.53 | Kek | thx |
| 15:58.05 | MoonWitch | hey cncfanatics |
| 15:58.10 | Toadkiller | cryogen hey i just read u fixed it, tx! It was a rather sublte thing |
| 15:58.11 | cncfanatics | hello MoonWitch |
| 15:58.44 | cryogen | Toadkiller: no kidding, luckily i have been looking at autobar a lot lately and was able to put 2 and 2 together :) |
| 15:58.56 | Xinhuan | cryogen: how did you fix it? |
| 15:59.07 | Xinhuan | or at least, what was the issue? |
| 15:59.11 | cryogen | its just a slight change in the way you set up secureheader action handlers |
| 15:59.18 | MoonWitch | for autobar, does it use PeriodicTable? |
| 15:59.30 | cryogen | blizzard removed support for item* and item from SetAttribute("type" |
| 15:59.38 | cryogen | dont know if it was intentional or not |
| 15:59.45 | Toadkiller | lol it turns out you needed to do a attribute of say "*type1", the one I was using was dumped |
| 15:59.46 | Xinhuan | my bar addon failed in 2.2, because it didn't account for the new "actionpage" attribute |
| 16:00.04 | Xinhuan | for type "action" |
| 16:00.05 | cncfanatics | Toadkiller, what did blizz change exactly ? |
| 16:00.12 | cncfanatics | about items |
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| 16:00.19 | cncfanatics | I use a lot of types item so I'm quite concerned |
| 16:00.32 | Xinhuan | cncfanatics if nothing broke you fb2, you shouldn't worry ;p |
| 16:00.45 | cryogen | cncfanatics: you cant specify "all" for items |
| 16:00.46 | cncfanatics | Xinhuan, it did |
| 16:00.47 | cryogen | you used to be able to |
| 16:00.55 | cncfanatics | how so ? |
| 16:01.07 | MoonWitch | are you talking about eg. Health potions (that being this type you speak of) |
| 16:01.16 | cryogen | you used to be able to do SetAttribute("type*", "item") then SetAttribute("item*", foo) |
| 16:01.22 | cryogen | now you cant |
| 16:01.25 | cryogen | you need to use item1/item2/item3 etc |
| 16:01.34 | SunTsu | cncfanatics: What did you mean with remapped keys? |
| 16:01.40 | cryogen | leaving off the * used to imply * as well |
| 16:01.43 | cryogen | now you cant do either |
| 16:01.49 | Toadkiller | I think they optimized the lookup & droipped some cases. it used to start with *thingie*, then check either * with various specific subs then finally just plain thingie. |
| 16:01.50 | Xinhuan | item1 item2 item3 meaning the button number? |
| 16:01.54 | cryogen | yes |
| 16:02.06 | cncfanatics | meh |
| 16:02.11 | cncfanatics | lets see, do I use that at all ? |
| 16:02.17 | cncfanatics | nope I don't, I use plain "type" |
| 16:02.23 | cryogen | if you only use action buttons, i doubt it |
| 16:02.25 | Toadkiller | probably not or u may have lucked out... |
| 16:02.29 | Xinhuan | i think perhaps the change was to allow itemIDs ? |
| 16:02.30 | cncfanatics | I don't use actionbuttons |
| 16:02.36 | cryogen | autobar uses it because it uses item links |
| 16:02.46 | cncfanatics | my actionbar addon uses itemlinks, spellnames, etc |
| 16:02.49 | cncfanatics | I don't use any actionids's |
| 16:02.54 | cncfanatics | actionid's* |
| 16:02.58 | Toadkiller | yeah but for spells it works... |
| 16:02.59 | cryogen | then you will be using it |
| 16:03.08 | MoonWitch | perhaps I should try out yours then cncfanatics |
| 16:03.10 | cryogen | Toadkiller: spells worked for autobar becauseyou only ever used spell1 |
| 16:03.13 | cncfanatics | oh god |
| 16:03.41 | MoonWitch | ?? lol |
| 16:03.45 | cncfanatics | well; nothing seems to have broken for the branched version of FB |
| 16:03.51 | cncfanatics | nvm MoonWitch :p |
| 16:03.58 | cncfanatics | let me just fix this nil error :p |
| 16:04.15 | Toadkiller | ah spells got hosed same way then? |
| 16:04.19 | cryogen | maybe |
| 16:04.24 | MoonWitch | cncfanatics: flexbar right? |
| 16:04.26 | cryogen | maybe not :) |
| 16:04.33 | cncfanatics | MoonWitch, yea |
| 16:04.40 | CIA-22 | 03cncfanatics 07Rock * r49868 10FlexBar2/FlexBar2/ (Action/Action.lua FlexBar2.toc): FlexBar2: Fixed nil error |
| 16:04.41 | cncfanatics | Toadkiller, yea they did, I can confirm that :p |
| 16:04.48 | Toadkiller | bleh |
| 16:05.09 | cryogen | its something to do with them rewriting how modifiers work i guess |
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| 16:05.14 | cryogen | optimisations and such |
| 16:05.16 | cncfanatics | seems wildcards are now only for prefix |
| 16:05.26 | cncfanatics | wildcards on suffix don't seem to do shit |
| 16:05.32 | cryogen | i cant find the right stuff in the blizzard lua to be sure |
| 16:05.38 | cryogen | if its even in there |
| 16:06.06 | Xinhuan | i wonder if you can trick them by using regexes |
| 16:06.07 | Xinhuan | :) |
| 16:06.11 | Xinhuan | type%d |
| 16:06.14 | Toadkiller | Well, it made me finally spend a shitload of time reading up on the patch + wonder of wonders I found a hack to get around the Tooltip issue with SecureAnchorEnterTemplate |
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| 16:06.35 | cryogen | :) |
| 16:06.45 | cryogen | the secure stuff in autobar is.. scary :p |
| 16:06.53 | cncfanatics | Toadkiller, actualy, cld I ask u a few questions |
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| 16:06.56 | Toadkiller | Im hoping the state machine can be simple enough to do popup on shift now |
| 16:07.00 | cncfanatics | cryogen, check the one in FB -.- |
| 16:07.03 | Toadkiller | go ahead |
| 16:07.05 | cryogen | cncfanatics: no thanks! |
| 16:07.12 | cncfanatics | its, very scary :p |
| 16:07.30 | cncfanatics | Toadkiller, cld u explain the basics of popping buttons on mouseover/click/mouseover+modifier key to me ? |
| 16:07.33 | cryogen | the AB one seems a bit overcomplicated to me, but i dont understand it fully enough yet |
| 16:07.38 | cncfanatics | gonna add that to flexbar, in a fully configurable way |
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| 16:08.02 | Xinhuan | cncfanatics: you mean buttons that appear on hovering over other buttons? |
| 16:08.22 | cryogen | Xinhuan: he wants to be able to have them appear on mouseover, click and other stuff |
| 16:08.29 | cryogen | all at once, configurably :) |
| 16:08.44 | Xinhuan | yeah its doable, but coding each possibility in in itself |
| 16:08.45 | cryogen | i can probably tell you how to do each individually, but what he wants is just mad :D |
| 16:08.47 | Xinhuan | is a pain in thea ss |
| 16:09.02 | Xinhuan | choosing just ONE of them is already hard to code lol |
| 16:09.06 | Toadkiller | lol well 1st of all u need this bit of magic: http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=50956831&sid=1&pageNo=2 |
| 16:09.10 | cncfanatics | cryogen, I managed to do everything configurably with target & shapeshifts, and any combination of both enabled |
| 16:09.14 | cncfanatics | it works fine, so I shld manage too :) |
| 16:09.18 | cryogen | cncfanatics: oh im sure you can do it |
| 16:09.21 | cryogen | i just cant tell you how |
| 16:09.30 | cncfanatics | if I know the basics of how to set it up, I'll manage |
| 16:09.32 | Toadkiller | it hacks it so you can do onenter & onleave with a popup yet still have a tooltip |
| 16:10.04 | Xinhuan | i have a popbar addon, you interested? ;p |
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| 16:10.34 | cncfanatics | Toadkiller, wldnt simply using HookScript do the thing ? |
| 16:10.53 | Toadkiller | Now as for the popup the popup that blizz provides is .. inadequate. If your base is a grid of buttons like AutoBar then buttons in the middle cannot pop up over other ones cuz as soon as the mouse moves to another button you get their popup |
| 16:11.05 | Xinhuan | what Toadkiller said |
| 16:11.15 | cncfanatics | Toadkiller, every button's position is fully configurable by the user -.- |
| 16:11.34 | Xinhuan | well not in the case of buttons that appear cncfanatics |
| 16:11.50 | Xinhuan | you have to tie each button to a securestatheeader that monitors onmouseover |
| 16:11.51 | omgwhohasmynick | can autobars buttons be moved individually? |
| 16:12.01 | Toadkiller | SO the solution is to hard core put the array of buttons + the popups that overlap them into 1 state machine & not so much pop them up as show them in various states |
| 16:12.41 | cncfanatics | eeeek |
| 16:12.45 | cncfanatics | thats gonna be IRRITATING |
| 16:12.46 | Xinhuan | yah, suppose you want 6 buttons to popup in a certain state, then you parent a secureheader to those 6 buttons |
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| 16:12.52 | charon | erm, is there an UI scale i can set my interface to that will "quick-fix" the 2.2 change? (UI scale turned off before) |
| 16:12.57 | Xinhuan | that monitors for that particular state |
| 16:13.03 | cncfanatics | ok this is gonna suck hard |
| 16:13.05 | Toadkiller | It's also a lot faster than the base popup blizz provides that way. Oh yeah the other shitty thing about the base popup is it only works while you are inside the base button so the base buttons real size is itself + its popups size |
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| 16:13.12 | Xinhuan | and set the button's Show and Hide based on the parent state |
| 16:13.24 | cncfanatics | coul I do this ? |
| 16:13.29 | CIA-22 | 03alar * r49870 10AlarAutomation/ (5 files): AlarAutomation Initial Import |
| 16:13.36 | Xinhuan | i don't think you should try ;p |
| 16:13.39 | cncfanatics | configure a header to show button X Y and Z when button A is on a certain state |
| 16:13.47 | Ironhand | can someone point me to an addon that can create a "log" of items received by mail? (so that I can look up who sent me what even if the mail is no longer in my mailbox) |
| 16:13.54 | Xinhuan | you're talking about multiple level states now |
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| 16:14.00 | Xinhuan | where a header is the parent of another header |
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| 16:14.14 | Xinhuan | it gets confusing |
| 16:14.14 | Toadkiller | yep, thats AutoBar in a nutshell |
| 16:14.15 | cryogen | Toadkiller: i could have done with having you around the other day when i was trying to figure autobar out :p |
| 16:14.33 | cncfanatics | Toadkiller, if I can do that i'm fine |
| 16:14.38 | Toadkiller | Heh, have you checked out the alpha? |
| 16:14.42 | cryogen | nope |
| 16:14.44 | cncfanatics | I'm gonna add a -mouseover state to all my buttons |
| 16:14.46 | cryogen | is it in svn? |
| 16:14.56 | Laric | Antiarc is there any new sanity update coming? :) |
| 16:15.03 | Toadkiller | no its on the google code sl section |
| 16:15.09 | cncfanatics | and that way, the secure header can monitor for the -mousover state on whatever button I want and show other buttons when it happens, right ? |
| 16:15.10 | cryogen | ah |
| 16:15.12 | cryogen | i'll look later |
| 16:15.16 | cryogen | has the state stuff been reworked? |
| 16:15.28 | Xinhuan | the difficult part is, if you want button A to follow Statheeader X, and button B to follow statheeader Y, and button C to follow both X and Y, you can't do that without creating a new statheeader XY or soemthing |
| 16:15.30 | Toadkiller | no I was about to start when the patch hit |
| 16:15.33 | Xinhuan | see what i mean? |
| 16:15.35 | cryogen | ah |
| 16:15.39 | cryogen | well i'll look anyway :) |
| 16:15.52 | cncfanatics | cryogen, if u feel adventurous, go check the state stuff of FB |
| 16:15.54 | cncfanatics | its , ehm, fun |
| 16:15.58 | cryogen | ive started work on a small cut down clone which isnt ace based |
| 16:16.19 | cncfanatics | Toadkiller, in theory, one could make an autobar clone hooking into FB btw :p |
| 16:16.26 | cncfanatics | as fb can create buttons on the fly |
| 16:16.26 | cryogen | cncfanatics: brrr |
| 16:16.29 | Toadkiller | the big difference in the state stuff is that with the hack I will no longer be popping up a button just to get tooltips anymore, so then I think getting popup on shift should be easy |
| 16:16.59 | Xinhuan | the problem with such an approach, cncfanatics, is that it takes too much effort to configure from the user side |
| 16:17.08 | Toadkiller | Well easier. it was definitely a nightmare b4. i could get it sorta popping up but only once ;-p |
| 16:17.22 | Toadkiller | whats FB? |
| 16:17.23 | CIA-22 | 03jerry * r49871 10Talented/Talented.toc: Talented: bump TOC and version number |
| 16:17.25 | Xinhuan | and very likely to break on every patch |
| 16:17.27 | cncfanatics | Toadkiller, flexbar2 |
| 16:17.29 | Xinhuan | just like the old FB1 |
| 16:17.31 | Toadkiller | ah |
| 16:17.45 | cncfanatics | popup buttons are rly gonna be a pain |
| 16:17.50 | cncfanatics | question, can one combine multiple suffixes ? |
| 16:17.59 | cncfanatics | like X-harm-mousoever |
| 16:18.04 | cncfanatics | X being the attribute |
| 16:18.45 | Xinhuan | not sure |
| 16:19.00 | Xinhuan | but the more you add, the more difficult to maintain and easier to break on every patch |
| 16:19.05 | Xinhuan | blizz changes secure header stuff way too often |
| 16:19.07 | Toadkiller | Well FB would definitely be able to handle this minimal case: a 3x3 grid of buttons that each popup say 4 buttons & being able to popup the middle button & select any of its 4 popups even as they overlap the outer buttons. Then popup on shift + fading out of combat. I think that covers the entire wishlist |
| 16:19.20 | Toadkiller | *need to be able to |
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| 16:19.33 | cncfanatics | Toadkiller, dsnt do all that :p |
| 16:19.34 | cncfanatics | yet |
| 16:19.42 | cncfanatics | first gonna get popups working |
| 16:20.01 | Laric | is there a diff somewhere between 2.1.3 and 2.2.0? |
| 16:20.08 | Xinhuan | consider how you are going to let the user configure all of this cnc |
| 16:20.17 | Xinhuan | with slash commands? a gui? |
| 16:20.19 | cncfanatics | Xinhuan, I got a handy /fb setremap command |
| 16:20.21 | cryogen | simple popups are rather easy once you get started |
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| 16:20.26 | Toadkiller | Oh yeah, the icing on the cake was not only propagating the state down even unto the popup buttons, but back up again. |
| 16:20.27 | cncfanatics | gui is planned, but I ain't gonna bother with it yet |
| 16:20.38 | cncfanatics | /fb setremap button=X target=true/false shapeshift=true/false |
| 16:20.42 | cncfanatics | thats the current syntax |
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| 16:20.48 | cncfanatics | either target or shapeshift can be ommited |
| 16:20.58 | cncfanatics | if I wanted to set button 3 to remap on shapeshifts I'd do |
| 16:20.59 | Toadkiller | I dumped the old gui for waterfall in the alpha ;-p |
| 16:21.07 | cncfanatics | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:21.10 | cncfanatics | thats pretty easy imo |
| 16:21.12 | cncfanatics | FB handles it all |
| 16:21.22 | cncfanatics | there's a damn craploads of code behind it though -.- |
| 16:21.31 | cryogen | autobar's configuration has always confused the hell out of me |
| 16:21.35 | cryogen | i usually stay way way away from it |
| 16:21.39 | Toadkiller | I still have some more hackery to perform on waterfall |
| 16:21.46 | cncfanatics | waterfall is meh |
| 16:21.48 | Toadkiller | Yeah the new setup should be simpler |
| 16:21.49 | cncfanatics | I like my slashcommands a lot |
| 16:21.59 | cncfanatics | Toadkiller, slashcommands only = win |
| 16:22.11 | irandamay | yay for new simpler setup :) I get all confused too with the different layers |
| 16:22.14 | cryogen | i hope you arent getting rid of drap-drop tho :) |
| 16:22.18 | cryogen | drag |
| 16:22.19 | kenlyric | so, whose idea was it to change the color of low level people to unreadable maroon in prat? |
| 16:22.24 | cncfanatics | Toadkiller, could u pastey me a basic example of popup buttons ? |
| 16:22.37 | Toadkiller | yeah but how do you add items to a slashcommand when u want to make a list? in AutoBar & the hacked waterfall u can drag & drop from bags & spellbook... |
| 16:22.38 | cncfanatics | say, a button that pops up 2-3 other buttons on mouseover |
| 16:22.39 | cryogen | cncfanatics: i can when i get in from work, if noone else does before that |
| 16:22.51 | CIA-22 | 03jerry * r49872 10Talented_Data/ (3 files in 2 dirs): Talented_Data: update to wow 2.2.0 |
| 16:22.51 | cryogen | ~30 mins |
| 16:22.56 | Laric | hmm is ContainerFrameItemButton_OnUpdate something in the API? or rather was? |
| 16:22.58 | RaydenUni | Skettis escort quest reward reduced to 9 gold from 11 gold, 99 silver |
| 16:22.58 | RaydenUni | what the crap is up with that? |
| 16:22.58 | RaydenUni | that quest sucks |
| 16:22.59 | RaydenUni | i often skip it as it is |
| 16:23.00 | cncfanatics | cryogen, I'd love that |
| 16:23.12 | cncfanatics | I'm gonna need a lot of examples before I can find a way to make it work fully configurable |
| 16:23.13 | cryogen | i'll just put my entire addon up, it's small and simple |
| 16:23.14 | kenlyric | RaydenUni: yay! less of a reason to do it. |
| 16:23.24 | cryogen | its basically a simple autobar ripoff :p |
| 16:23.26 | cncfanatics | cryogen, I hate reading through addons :( |
| 16:23.26 | kenlyric | did all dailies drop to 9g? |
| 16:23.39 | RaydenUni | no just that one |
| 16:23.47 | cryogen | cncfanatics: all it does is create a bar and some popup buttons |
| 16:23.47 | RaydenUni | the relic emenations was decreased, but more rep |
| 16:23.49 | cryogen | its not really an addon :) |
| 16:23.51 | cncfanatics | cldnt u just hardcode a lil example of a secure button (just use CreateFrame("CheckButton") heck) that pops up 2-3 other buttons when mousoever ? |
| 16:23.59 | kenlyric | I mostly just do the egg quest every day. |
| 16:24.00 | cryogen | thats pretty much all it is |
| 16:24.04 | cncfanatics | aaah, thats exactly what i want then cryogen :) |
| 16:24.07 | CIA-22 | 03ixchael * r49873 10Historian/ (Historian.lua embeds.xml libs/): |
| 16:24.07 | CIA-22 | Historian: |
| 16:24.07 | CIA-22 | - Fixed an error that occurred when killing enemies in non-English versions of the game. |
| 16:24.07 | CIA-22 | - Now uses the Deformat library to parse chat messages. |
| 16:24.10 | cncfanatics | I'm gonna take a nice bath then |
| 16:24.11 | kenlyric | I'll be revered in about a week :) |
| 16:24.11 | Toadkiller | cncfanatics: http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=50956831&sid=1&pageNo=1 has great examples |
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| 16:24.28 | RaydenUni | i need tons of rep |
| 16:24.29 | cryogen | yeah ive pretty much stolen those exampels too |
| 16:24.35 | RaydenUni | but i've been too busy to do any dailies recently |
| 16:24.36 | cryogen | anyway ii'll put it up when i get in |
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| 16:25.05 | cncfanatics | great, gonna take a bath then,I'll see after |
| 16:25.06 | Xinhuan | uh i thought iriel had a sample that did just that |
| 16:25.09 | cncfanatics | its gonna be fun to code either way |
| 16:25.14 | Toadkiller | THe next example up from that that I have is AutoBar itself unfortunately |
| 16:25.23 | kadrahil | quick, i need a really spiffy UI to copy! |
| 16:25.29 | cryogen | post #37 in that thread is quite complete |
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| 16:25.40 | cryogen | thats pretty much what im doing |
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| 16:25.52 | Toadkiller | what are you working on cryo? |
| 16:25.54 | Xinhuan | its actually pretty good, i wrote my popbar from the info in that thread |
| 16:26.01 | cryogen | Toadkiller: an autobar ripoff |
| 16:26.01 | CIA-22 | 03jerry * r49875 10GridAlert/GridAlert.toc: GridAlert: bump TOC |
| 16:26.04 | cryogen | Toadkiller: :p |
| 16:26.08 | Toadkiller | hehe which one? |
| 16:26.12 | CIA-22 | 03alar * r49876 10AlarAutomation/ (. Libs/): AlarAutomation Added externals reference |
| 16:26.13 | naenee | Does Pitbull use DogTag? |
| 16:26.18 | cryogen | its jus tsomething i created from scratch |
| 16:26.24 | Toadkiller | ah nice |
| 16:26.26 | MoonWitch | naenee: yes |
| 16:26.28 | naenee | Could I use the same lines from Cowtip for Pibull? |
| 16:26.29 | cryogen | i started it because i was frustrated with ace |
| 16:26.36 | cryogen | but it quickly turned into a learning exercise |
| 16:26.38 | cryogen | more than anything serious |
| 16:26.42 | naenee | Interesting. That makes configuration easier then |
| 16:26.51 | MoonWitch | naenee: I think so. |
| 16:26.53 | CIA-22 | 03ixchael * r49877 10Historian/Historian.toc: |
| 16:26.53 | CIA-22 | Historian: |
| 16:26.53 | CIA-22 | - Updated for patch 2.2. |
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| 16:27.14 | Toadkiller | Well PT3 does give u all the item stuff already so the rest isnt too tedious |
| 16:27.41 | cryogen | ya, pt3 is the one thing that ace does bring which is kinda nice |
| 16:27.42 | CIA-22 | 03jerry * r49878 10FuBar_TimerFu/FuBar_TimerFu.toc: FuBar_TimerFu: bump TOC |
| 16:27.47 | cryogen | tho i havent quite got my head around that yet :p |
| 16:27.50 | Stanzilla2 | nevcairiel: need branch trunk merge of BT3 for 2.2 features :P |
| 16:27.52 | MoonWitch | Toadkiller: I am just lookin into PT3bar ... |
| 16:28.17 | Toadkiller | PT3Bar is nice &simple |
| 16:28.22 | CIA-22 | 03jerry * r49879 10lern2count/lern2count.toc: lern2count: bump TOC |
| 16:28.25 | naenee | Seems to work :) |
| 16:28.29 | naenee | What is PT3 bar? |
| 16:28.35 | cryogen | Toadkiller: i think my new goal is to have something simple that i can use next time i get pissed off with ace2 and decide to uninstall it :) |
| 16:28.36 | naenee | ah |
| 16:28.38 | naenee | autobar alternative |
| 16:28.39 | Stanzilla2 | BT naenee |
| 16:28.39 | Nickenyfiken | Hmm why is my Bartender bars in different sized when the scale is the same. |
| 16:28.42 | MoonWitch | yeah, just trying to get my head around the setup :) Autobar is really nice, but as said it's quite heavy. |
| 16:28.42 | naenee | based on periodic table |
| 16:28.43 | cryogen | i still use autobar though |
| 16:28.48 | Stanzilla2 | oh |
| 16:28.49 | MoonWitch | Nickenyfiken: reload your UI |
| 16:28.52 | cryogen | naenee: autobar is based on PT :) |
| 16:28.56 | Stanzilla2 | ignore me...cant read today |
| 16:28.56 | CIA-22 | 03jerry * r49880 10PitBull_AltAura/PitBull_AltAura.toc: PitBull_AltAura: bump TOC |
| 16:29.14 | Nickenyfiken | MoonWitch: uh ok |
| 16:29.26 | MoonWitch | naenee: PT3Bar, is like AUtoBar, but then without the enormous automagical events, you edit the lua to get more to show up. |
| 16:29.35 | Toadkiller | Actually Periodic Table started as a mashing together of the AutoBar &2 other mod's data sets & then grew |
| 16:29.37 | CIA-22 | 03jerry * r49881 10FixLogStrings/FixLogStrings.toc: FixLogStrings: bump TOC |
| 16:29.57 | MoonWitch | Nickenyfiken: also check the width/height of said bars. it may be different |
| 16:30.11 | cryogen | i tried pt3bar once |
| 16:30.20 | cryogen | it was far too much pissing about with for my liking :) |
| 16:30.22 | MoonWitch | I got scared by PT3Bar :P |
| 16:30.26 | kadrahil | Attempt to call method 'Print' (a nil value) |
| 16:30.30 | irandamay | I miss how stuff used to auto disappear from autobar |
| 16:30.30 | Toadkiller | THe AutoBar rewrite should let you easily get a bar as simple as the BT3Bar if you want but also keep whatever you want from the original |
| 16:30.35 | kadrahil | in LittleWigs/CoT/BlackMorass.lua line 317 |
| 16:30.43 | Xinhuan | i kinda want a unitframe addon, where it allows you to specifically move every element of a "unitframe" exactly how you want it -- hp, mana, lvl, class, portrait, name, etc, customizing the anchors and size and fonts for each ;p |
| 16:30.44 | Toadkiller | + it will use the regular Profile system from ace |
| 16:30.54 | Nickenyfiken | MoonWitch: that is not possible |
| 16:30.58 | Xinhuan | and then replicate that unitframe layout to all units |
| 16:30.59 | Ellipsis | ping durcyn |
| 16:31.12 | MoonWitch | Nickenyfiken: what is not possible? |
| 16:31.22 | Nickenyfiken | Change width and height |
| 16:31.30 | cryogen | right, hometime! |
| 16:31.39 | ulic | kadrahil: looking at it |
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| 16:31.43 | Toadkiller | irandamay: Yeah im gonna add some shuffling of items to it so you can run out of the top thing & then use the cheaper stuff. |
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| 16:31.55 | Toadkiller | Even in combat |
| 16:32.04 | irandamay | woot! :D |
| 16:32.11 | MoonWitch | Nickenyfiken: the only time I get bt not same sized is when my scaling is off, or when i haven't reloaded my UI after enabling a bar that was hidden |
| 16:32.34 | Nickenyfiken | ok hmm |
| 16:32.36 | MoonWitch | Nickenyfiken: lemme open up wow so I can look at the options |
| 16:32.42 | kadrahil | ulic: version 49751 |
| 16:33.14 | CIA-22 | 03nalumis * r49882 10BigBrother/localization_deDE.lua: |
| 16:33.14 | CIA-22 | BigBrother: |
| 16:33.14 | CIA-22 | - deDE localization fixed |
| 16:33.18 | ulic | kadrahil: if you have time change "self:Print" to "BigWigs:Print", zone out, disable BigWigs, then zone back in and see what happens, that should fix it. |
| 16:33.50 | kadrahil | ulic: i'll check that out, thanks |
| 16:33.54 | MoonWitch | Nickenyfiken: check the padding.. that's what I was thinking of :) |
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| 16:34.15 | ulic | I forgot LittleWigs doesn't have it's own instance of AceConsole so it can't print it's own messages. |
| 16:34.18 | kadrahil | ulic: funny thing is, i wasn't even zoning into BM.. that happened when i selected a different profile |
| 16:34.28 | ulic | oh, interesting |
| 16:35.09 | Ellipsis | sigh |
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| 16:36.16 | CIA-22 | Chronometer: |
| 16:36.16 | CIA-22 | - TOC to 20200 |
| 16:36.16 | CIA-22 | - Added Parser-3.0 and LibParser-4.0 to OptDeps for people using only newer versions |
| 16:36.56 | CIA-22 | 03nebelmond * r49884 10PVPtimer/PVPtimer.toc: |
| 16:36.56 | CIA-22 | PVPtimer: |
| 16:36.56 | CIA-22 | - changed .toc for WoW 2.2 |
| 16:38.24 | Nickenyfiken | bah stupid BT3 :-( |
| 16:38.31 | Stanzilla2 | Toadkiller: so PT3 is the new AutoBar or will there be a new autobar version? |
| 16:38.46 | Nickenyfiken | gonna nuke SVs and see if it helps |
| 16:42.08 | cncfanatics | ok, I found my way to do it :) gonna use OnClick instead of OnEnter though |
| 16:42.11 | cncfanatics | OnEnter is too much of a hassle |
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| 16:42.22 | kadrahil | ulic: i <3 the bigwigs victory sound |
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| 16:42.54 | CIA-22 | 03ixchael * r49885 10Historian/Historian.toc: |
| 16:42.54 | CIA-22 | Historian: |
| 16:42.54 | CIA-22 | - Now includes the "-Ace2-" marker in the title. |
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| 16:42.57 | CIA-22 | 03Tristan * r49886 10Enhancer/ (22 files in 4 dirs): |
| 16:42.57 | CIA-22 | Enhancer: |
| 16:42.57 | CIA-22 | - Range coloring for those with Cartographer |
| 16:42.57 | CIA-22 | - Removed Localization for Roman Number and used a Library since I figured I'd want this in the future for other things anyway |
| 16:42.59 | irandamay | doot doot doot doo doo doo doot doo doo |
| 16:43.01 | CIA-22 | - Updated ## Interface to latest in .toc |
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| 16:43.37 | Elkano | anyone has a diff for the new EULA/TOS |
| 16:43.40 | Toadkiller | Stanzilla: PT3 is just the item library. It is used by AutoBar & Baggins & various other mods |
| 16:43.56 | Stanzilla2 | Toadkiller: okay |
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| 16:44.20 | CIA-22 | 03alar * r49888 10!AlarLib/!AlarLib.toc: !AlarLib Wow Version 2.2 |
| 16:44.36 | Toadkiller | The top version in SVN (via WAU) should now work unless I missed someone reporting a bug in the last little while |
| 16:44.51 | cncfanatics | Toadkiller, do u know how a button can change attributes of another button when clicked ? |
| 16:44.54 | cncfanatics | i'm 99% sure its possible |
| 16:45.00 | vhaarr | kadrahil: think you can thank tekkub for that one |
| 16:45.04 | *** join/#wowace Mech0z (i=Mech0z@d40ae5d9.rev.stofanet.dk) |
| 16:45.04 | Toadkiller | Also, an alpha of the current rewrite is here: http://code.google.com/p/autobar/downloads/list |
| 16:45.34 | Toadkiller | cncfanatics: not off the top of my head, check the secure state stuff they added support for something like that in 2.1 i think |
| 16:45.38 | Mech0z | any lightweight acemod with chat scrolling option? |
| 16:45.40 | Mech0z | Not prat |
| 16:45.43 | vhaarr | Toadkiller: give me a svn address |
| 16:45.48 | cncfanatics | Toadkiller, will do |
| 16:45.52 | Mech0z | Just so I can use my scroll wheel in chatframes |
| 16:45.58 | kadrahil | vhaarr: :) |
| 16:46.13 | Toadkiller | vhaarr: address for the alpha? |
| 16:46.17 | vhaarr | ye |
| 16:46.25 | vhaarr | zips ftl |
| 16:46.47 | Toadkiller | Oh do not ask for me to check it in, cuz on the one hand I would but on the other hand a lot of people will complain |
| 16:47.11 | vhaarr | branch? |
| 16:47.38 | Toadkiller | I really want to get it to the point where the internationalization guys arent wasting their time too much + a working plugin architecture |
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| 16:48.06 | Toadkiller | Yeah I suppose a branch could be done |
| 16:48.26 | Worf | Mech0z: that would be so minimalistic it would not make sense to use ace for i think... so propably search outside ace world... ( but i don't remember any because i totally fell for prat ) |
| 16:48.42 | Toadkiller | prat fall? |
| 16:48.52 | Mech0z | prat just takes too long time to config... |
| 16:49.03 | Stanzilla2 | like...2minutes |
| 16:49.06 | Worf | Mech0z: just disable all modules but the one you need |
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| 16:49.18 | cncfanatics | Mech0z, I didnt configure prat at all |
| 16:49.21 | Toadkiller | vhaarr: you have a hunter right? |
| 16:49.23 | MoonWitch | Toadkiller: with the alpha, my pc won't blow up right? other then that I'll live |
| 16:49.36 | Nickenyfiken | ~rape World Server |
| 16:49.36 | purl | How DARE you think such a thing, nickenyfiken?! Shame on you! |
| 16:49.43 | cncfanatics | ok, now I got to upgrade my module code decently :/ |
| 16:49.52 | Nickenyfiken | ~rape purl |
| 16:49.53 | purl | How DARE you think such a thing, nickenyfiken?! Shame on you! |
| 16:49.56 | Nickenyfiken | ~kill purl |
| 16:49.56 | purl | ACTION shoots a super-inverse neutrino gun at purl |
| 16:49.58 | cncfanatics | need to be able to enable & disable modules on the fly to do what I want to do correctly |
| 16:49.58 | Toadkiller | MoonWitch: no it should mostly just work. |
| 16:50.08 | MoonWitch | Toadkiller: okies :) |
| 16:50.20 | vhaarr | Toadkiller: I have a priest, warrior, rogue and warlock at level 70, but not a hunter. |
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| 16:50.32 | neenee | TF2 time ;) |
| 16:50.46 | Sirow | TF2 out allready ?_? |
| 16:50.55 | Toadkiller | MoonWitch: Also the alpha uses all ace db for config so it shouldnt even blow up your old stuff if u revert |
| 16:51.05 | Stanzilla2 | vhaarr: zomg powerplayer :O |
| 16:51.09 | MoonWitch | neenee: got the orange box and beta'ing? |
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| 16:51.30 | Toadkiller | Good grief, thats 1 more 70 than I have |
| 16:51.39 | cncfanatics | I got 2 -.- |
| 16:51.42 | cncfanatics | bunch of freaks :p |
| 16:51.44 | cncfanatics | code more ^^ |
| 16:52.00 | neenee | MoonWitch, yup :) |
| 16:52.01 | Toadkiller | lol yeah but the 70 mage is for AUtoBar debugging |
| 16:52.09 | Sirow | lol |
| 16:52.09 | MoonWitch | neenee: have fun |
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| 16:52.13 | neenee | will do :) |
| 16:52.25 | Worf | well, 70 chars without kara clear don't count, right? :) |
| 16:52.33 | Toadkiller | Back when I just had my 60 warrior I had no idea what was going on for other classes |
| 16:53.02 | Toadkiller | Lol, the alt parade can look but will never ever go into Kara |
| 16:53.04 | MoonWitch | one thing I always miss in chat mods - since I don't use prat, is the level color highlight lol |
| 16:53.25 | Ellipsis | level color what now? |
| 16:53.30 | Toadkiller | Its arena welfare + boe hand me downs for them |
| 16:53.53 | Chompers | what's wrong with using Prat? |
| 16:54.02 | sylvanaar | bad pr |
| 16:54.02 | MoonWitch | chat mods - the level of eg guildies, color by classes |
| 16:54.17 | Ellipsis | oh, level and class coloring as two separate things, I see |
| 16:54.23 | Trell_ | prat does that :S |
| 16:54.24 | MoonWitch | well I don't use prat, since I only use like 3 modules in it LOL so it was overkill for me |
| 16:54.27 | Ellipsis | I thought you meant like, color-coding by level...which sounded less useful :P |
| 16:54.40 | Ellipsis | Prat is overkill for most people |
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| 16:54.55 | sylvanaar | you can turn off the modules you dont use, and they use no resources after a gc |
| 16:54.58 | Trell_ | i only use 3 or 4 modules in it, but its still nice |
| 16:55.04 | Chompers | AutoLOD doesn't work? |
| 16:55.07 | sylvanaar | it does |
| 16:55.14 | Ellipsis | it is flawed in some ways |
| 16:55.20 | sylvanaar | its embedded libraries |
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| 16:55.26 | Ellipsis | some people don't like those either |
| 16:55.54 | sylvanaar | yes, but that concept works for modules very well |
| 16:56.04 | Ellipsis | in some ways |
| 16:56.05 | sylvanaar | at least very small ones like prat has |
| 16:56.05 | CIA-22 | 03jerry * r49889 10Links/ (Bindings.xml Links.lua): Links: Update to use IsModifiedClick() |
| 16:56.19 | Worf | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:56.23 | Bym | evening folks, how much hell is 2.2 causing? :> |
| 16:56.29 | sylvanaar | alias it |
| 16:56.44 | CIA-22 | 03jerry 072.2 * r49890 10Links/Links/: Links: (branch) removed |
| 16:56.48 | Bym | quick question, has anyone heard of qrikkos threat hud? is there an ace equivalent? |
| 16:56.50 | Worf | ah, no need - tab completion works just fine |
| 16:56.58 | Mech0z | Now that we are at it, any ace mod that shows with bars the timers in battlegrounds |
| 16:57.04 | Mech0z | and ARRRRRRRRRG wow crashed again |
| 16:57.18 | Chompers | this Autobar alpha is pretty awesome |
| 16:57.35 | Mech0z | just put new mods in, deleted my WTF, Cache |
| 16:58.05 | mikma | cncfanatics: yo dude |
| 16:58.07 | sylvanaar | Yeah, you cant win - if you develop a comprehensive solution people say i dont need it all. If you make it so they can just use the parts they need, they aren;t satisfied. I gave up on trying to please that group. |
| 16:58.20 | cncfanatics | mikma, yo |
| 16:58.32 | mikma | cncfanatics: with 2.2 i have a problem with actionbuttons :) |
| 16:58.41 | cncfanatics | mikma, what ones ? |
| 16:58.48 | mikma | cncfanatics: i can see the icons just fine but the action for them when using keybinds is always actionbutton1 |
| 16:59.06 | Ellipsis | sylvanaar, tbh, I would have been pleased with Prat if I could just use the parts I needed |
| 16:59.15 | MoonWitch | sylvanaar: that's why there are usually a set of mods that do similar things, I do love Prat - don't get me wrong, but the UI I am working on isn't just for me. :) |
| 16:59.19 | sylvanaar | You can |
| 16:59.24 | mikma | cncfanatics: people say i need to call ActionButton_Update or ActionButton_UpdateAction, but i don't know how |
| 16:59.29 | Ellipsis | not without the extra bits impacting my load times |
| 16:59.34 | Ellipsis | which just isn't worth it to me |
| 16:59.38 | cncfanatics | mikma, I don't use actionbuttons, I have no idea :/ |
| 16:59.38 | Chompers | my prat is using 1.9mb of memory disembedded |
| 16:59.42 | hyperChipmunk | buhleet them |
| 16:59.43 | Chompers | is that really too much? |
| 16:59.57 | Ellipsis | I'll admit I'm picky sylvanaar - which is why I ended up writing my own chat addon instead of using one of the 83527962 that are out there |
| 16:59.58 | sylvanaar | Ellipsis it doesnt impact your load time, seriously |
| 17:00.11 | Ellipsis | yes it does |
| 17:00.17 | Ellipsis | reading files takes time |
| 17:00.20 | Ellipsis | my hard drive is slow |
| 17:00.20 | cncfanatics | oooh, u lose 0.01 sec of ur life ? |
| 17:00.23 | sylvanaar | Chompers it should be 1.1mb |
| 17:00.41 | sylvanaar | Chompers unless you are saving player data |
| 17:00.48 | CIA-22 | 03gruk * r49891 10FuBar_FuzzyClockFu/FuBar_FuzzyClockFu.toc: |
| 17:00.48 | CIA-22 | FuBar_FuzzyClockFu |
| 17:00.48 | CIA-22 | - TOC update to 20200 |
| 17:00.49 | Mikk | wtb working sound back |
| 17:00.49 | Chompers | yeah, saving it all |
| 17:00.55 | hyperChipmunk | buhleet buhleet! |
| 17:00.58 | Chompers | been running for at least a month |
| 17:01.10 | sylvanaar | Chompers ah, then in that case that makes sense |
| 17:01.31 | Chompers | i like knowing who's advertising in trade |
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| 17:01.35 | sylvanaar | Ellipsis ah, well thats you |
| 17:01.47 | cncfanatics | oh great gods |
| 17:01.52 | Nickenyfiken | Oh OneBag does not work so well... i haven't notice until now |
| 17:01.56 | cncfanatics | just got a very irritating bug reported -.- |
| 17:02.28 | cncfanatics | did blizz change StartMoving or something ? |
| 17:02.34 | cncfanatics | I'm getting very weird dragging behaviour |
| 17:02.52 | mitchnull | hm. the blizz downloader seem to have improved. download and upload rates are skyrocketing |
| 17:02.54 | sylvanaar | I stole ckknight's HSL<->RGB code, but it turns grey into blue, for the level colors, anyone else notice that |
| 17:02.55 | CIA-22 | 03ulic * r49892 10LittleWigs/CoT/BlackMorass.lua: LittleWigs: bugfix |
| 17:03.09 | Ellipsis | sylvanaar: yup, but I'm the one who has to use my UI, so I went and found an alternative that suited me better |
| 17:03.22 | Ellipsis | no hard feelings, I just wish I could've gotten along with Prat |
| 17:03.46 | Chompers | what are you using then Ellipsis? |
| 17:03.49 | sylvanaar | Ellipsis none - like i said - i gave up trying to please users like yourself |
| 17:03.58 | Ellipsis | Chompers, as I said above, I wrote something for myself |
| 17:04.05 | Chompers | custom made, i see |
| 17:04.31 | MoonWitch | sylvanaar: why are you looking down on those who don't use prat? or at least that is how this is coming across |
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| 17:04.58 | kenlyric | sylvanaar: I'd say it's more like a dark purple than blue. |
| 17:05.24 | cryogen | login info: "voice chat disabled" neat, good start |
| 17:05.33 | Funkeh` | hey golks |
| 17:05.35 | Funkeh` | folks* |
| 17:05.38 | cryogen | golks? |
| 17:05.44 | MoonWitch | hey Funkeh` |
| 17:06.02 | Nickenyfiken | So, does anyone know if Bagnon works well in 2.2? |
| 17:06.08 | sylvanaar | MoonWitch im not |
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| 17:07.32 | sylvanaar | kenlyric yeah, i'll have to remember to fix that |
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| 17:07.55 | Mudkips | o/ |
| 17:08.09 | TNZe | okay |
| 17:08.16 | Ellipsis | hey Mudkips |
| 17:08.17 | TNZe | ckknight, parrot just did something very weird |
| 17:08.25 | sylvanaar | MoonWitch i just became frustrated after a while, because no matter what I did - certain people just could not be pleased. |
| 17:08.50 | Ellipsis | but what's wrong with following the standard method of doing modules? |
| 17:09.02 | Tuller | Nickenyfiken: it does |
| 17:09.08 | durcyn | Nickenyfiken: it works perfectly, just make sure you have 1.4.0 |
| 17:09.12 | TNZe | ckknight, I'm idling in shattrah, and parrot said my pet was hit by a corruption... and I have no pet (shadowpriest) |
| 17:09.21 | TNZe | and combatlog is empty. |
| 17:09.37 | Nickenyfiken | Tuller: Sweet |
| 17:09.47 | hyperChipmunk | ha, i had that happen too |
| 17:09.48 | sylvanaar | Ellipsis for a chat mod? |
| 17:09.51 | Funkeh` | Mecdemort: Given it is your addon I don't care much, I think you should do a little more research before claiming optimizations as improper |
| 17:09.54 | Nickenyfiken | OneBag has always worked for me so i haven't bothered to change :-P |
| 17:10.12 | cryogen | cncfanatics: http://wowi.pastey.net/74451 / http://wowi.pastey.net/74452 |
| 17:10.12 | hyperChipmunk | my pet got hit by a tick of carrion worms in the middle of blades edge plateau |
| 17:10.16 | DrWily | heh, yeah, I don't know which addon I have but all I see is a -Pet Aggro- on my screen all the time |
| 17:10.33 | Ellipsis | sylvanaar: for any mod |
| 17:11.07 | sylvanaar | because you get the same benefit from the embedded module system |
| 17:11.19 | sylvanaar | i have profiled it extensively |
| 17:11.23 | CIA-22 | 03thexod * r49894 10ItemValue/ (. Data_Jewels.lua ItemValue-deDE.lua ItemValue-enGB.lua): |
| 17:11.23 | CIA-22 | ItemValue: |
| 17:11.23 | CIA-22 | - Added 2.2 jewels |
| 17:11.27 | cncfanatics | OMG |
| 17:11.40 | cncfanatics | WHY is blizz reanchorring my frames to different edges ? |
| 17:11.41 | cncfanatics | idiots |
| 17:11.49 | hyperChipmunk | that's a good thing |
| 17:11.53 | cncfanatics | I coded everything based on the assumtion that stuff was anchored to topleft though |
| 17:11.55 | hyperChipmunk | it should have been that way from the start |
| 17:11.56 | mitchnull | actually, that feature could be quite nifty |
| 17:11.58 | sylvanaar | I can herb in flight form |
| 17:12.05 | sylvanaar | FTW |
| 17:12.14 | cncfanatics | my dragging code broke though |
| 17:12.19 | hyperChipmunk | fixit |
| 17:12.22 | cncfanatics | how could one calculate a button's position relative to TOPLEFT ? |
| 17:12.22 | Ellipsis | I thought they fixed that? |
| 17:12.22 | mitchnull | you lose :) |
| 17:12.47 | Tuller | cncfanatics: why do you need to? :) |
| 17:12.49 | Saroz | ehh clique is broken? |
| 17:12.55 | mitchnull | actually, I think I lose, too, as I think I also assume TOPLEFT anchor :) |
| 17:12.57 | sylvanaar | no |
| 17:13.02 | mitchnull | but it should'nt be too hard to fix |
| 17:13.08 | cncfanatics | need to recalculate :) |
| 17:13.10 | sylvanaar | clique works fine |
| 17:13.15 | Saroz | odd |
| 17:13.20 | cncfanatics | if my GetPosition func returns relative to TOPLEFT I'm fine |
| 17:13.21 | sylvanaar | you need to update it |
| 17:13.25 | Saroz | kk |
| 17:13.33 | mitchnull | cnc: actually, I'll just store the point along with the coords |
| 17:13.38 | sylvanaar | because of the change to the Unit*() functions |
| 17:13.57 | sylvanaar | or whatever, unitname() |
| 17:14.07 | cncfanatics | mitchnull, hmmmm |
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| 17:14.19 | cncfanatics | I'd rather keep using topleft personaly |
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| 17:15.18 | mitchnull | cnc: that's not really user-friendly, tbh |
| 17:15.23 | CIA-22 | 03alar * r49895 10AlarBGHelper/ (. Libs/): AlarBGHelper Fixed externals |
| 17:15.28 | cncfanatics | mitchnull, I have a /fb setposition command |
| 17:15.36 | cncfanatics | if it changes relativity all the time then its not user friendly |
| 17:15.39 | cncfanatics | so i'm just gonna keep topleft :) |
| 17:15.47 | cryogen | cncfanatics: gthose links where my example btw, in case you were wondering :) |
| 17:15.55 | mitchnull | cnc: if someone positions something "near the center", it'd better stay "near the center" if the user changes resolution, or somesouch |
| 17:16.03 | Hock | have a lot of people already asked about cowtip / mobinfo2 data? |
| 17:16.09 | cncfanatics | mitchnull, meh |
| 17:16.18 | mitchnull | cnc: that's a different story |
| 17:16.38 | cncfanatics | the fact that getposition returns position relative to topleft doesnt mean setposition can't anchor to the closest point btw ;) |
| 17:16.46 | Hock | ckknight: I posted in the cowtip2 thread regarding mobinfo2 |
| 17:16.46 | mitchnull | cnc: after setPositon(), do a getPosition() (forgot the actual func names), and store the POINT returned there |
| 17:17.08 | cncfanatics | I'm gonna modify my Get & Setposition funcs |
| 17:17.16 | cncfanatics | getposition will just always return relative to topleft |
| 17:17.26 | Hock | and can anyone confirm that tinytip / tinytip extras are no longer ace and aren't being supported much if at all? |
| 17:17.31 | cncfanatics | and setposition will always anchor to the closest point while taking X & Y coords relative to TOPLEFT |
| 17:17.40 | cncfanatics | think thats the most friendly way |
| 17:17.42 | hyperChipmunk | Hock: they're in thrae's googlecode svn |
| 17:18.06 | cncfanatics | (and heck, I can do StartMoving & StopMovingOrSizing on the frame right after to make blizz reanchor it :p) |
| 17:18.37 | cryogen | Toadkiller: what was th elink for the alpha again? |
| 17:19.18 | Grum | Evening again |
| 17:19.29 | CIA-22 | 03alar * r49896 10AlarArtRemover/AlarArtRemover.toc: AlarArtRemover Fixing addon references |
| 17:19.45 | Grum | Did anyone/anything post a solution for the 'my cache is corrupt and i log out after 20s' ? |
| 17:19.46 | cncfanatics | hmmmm , mitchnull, how would one get the coords relative to topleft easely ? |
| 17:19.51 | Grum | or is deleting the Cache-dir enough? |
| 17:19.53 | xyu` | Grum can i have your addon? :P |
| 17:19.57 | Grum | yes |
| 17:20.03 | cncfanatics | :o, can I too ? :o |
| 17:20.06 | Grum | no |
| 17:20.43 | Mudkips | oh lord |
| 17:20.46 | cncfanatics | xyu` can u give it to me when u got it ? :p |
| 17:20.53 | xyu` | nope ^^ |
| 17:20.57 | cncfanatics | boo :p |
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| 17:21.00 | Mudkips | If I had known about scripts, my eepanels could have been sooooo easy |
| 17:21.06 | Higdur | right... where to start with disabling addons? :) |
| 17:21.10 | Ellipsis | Grum, someone linked a thing about changing networking settings that worked for Trell_ |
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| 17:21.28 | Ellipsis | if clearing cache doesn't work, it'd be worth a try |
| 17:21.32 | Chompers | Grum: i fixed my problem by deleteing the cache folder |
| 17:21.44 | kenlyric | we need a message in Wau: "Wowace is not a mod distribution channel. Fucknuts. |
| 17:21.47 | Hock | hyperChipmunk: it's not there. |
| 17:21.50 | Ellipsis | I like that kenlyric |
| 17:21.55 | Hock | I checked before but thought that maybe I missed it. |
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| 17:21.57 | Hock | http://code.google.com/p/thrae-wow/ |
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| 17:22.06 | Hock | no tinytip there. |
| 17:22.24 | Hock | but really, if I can get Mobinfo2 working with CowTip, I'm fine with that. |
| 17:22.34 | Hock | would probably even prefer it tbh |
| 17:22.50 | cryogen | do i want WITH externals or WITHOUT if i use a few ace addons and i want fast(er) loading times? |
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| 17:24.43 | vhaarr | without, but it doesn't make much of a difference unless you have tons |
| 17:24.47 | `Nike | DrDamage-1.2.0\Melee.lua:356: attempt to concatenate upvalue 'mhType' (a nil value)<in C code>: ?AceEvent-2.0-49307 (Ace2):367: in function <Interface\AddOns\Ace2\AceEvent-2.0\AceEvent-2.0.lua:345> |
| 17:24.55 | cncfanatics | Chompers, it is now :p |
| 17:25.00 | Mudkips | vhaar lets say I do have tons |
| 17:25.01 | NightHawkTheSane | it doesn't make a big difference even if you do have tons, really |
| 17:25.06 | Mudkips | I should be updating without? |
| 17:25.17 | Mudkips | then whats the point of with or without? |
| 17:25.19 | break19 | this is weird.. im in a group with my wife, we both have voice chat enabled, but neither of us are hearing anything, even tho we hear our voices on the recording thing.... |
| 17:25.20 | vhaarr | you should be keeping to your current scheme if that works fine |
| 17:25.24 | Mudkips | there has a to be a good reason why |
| 17:25.27 | vhaarr | and read the forum+wiki before asking again |
| 17:25.28 | Mech0z | anyone remember the ace mod that instant rez you in BG, and does other nifty battleground related things? |
| 17:25.29 | cryogen | ok if it doesnt make much difference, which do i want for least potential problems |
| 17:25.29 | hyperChipmunk | cuz users are morons |
| 17:25.36 | cryogen | with i guess? |
| 17:25.40 | NightHawkTheSane | cryogen: just go with embeds. |
| 17:26.10 | vhaarr | cryogen: I'd say yes, with, but there are some developers who don't know what they're doing as well, so if you use some of the unknown mods, like the Alar ones, I'm not so sure. |
| 17:26.32 | Mudkips | oh hahaha we did alar last night |
| 17:26.38 | Mudkips | guy was pro with 15 second adds |
| 17:26.48 | cncfanatics | beats kael ? :p |
| 17:26.52 | haste | vhaarr: but alar's getiteminfo function is so awesome! |
| 17:26.56 | Mudkips | so we went to BT instead of keying a new priest |
| 17:26.57 | CIA-22 | 03celellach * r49897 10AtlasLoot/ (6 files in 2 dirs): |
| 17:26.57 | CIA-22 | AtlasLoot: |
| 17:26.57 | CIA-22 | - Fixed typo in Aether-tech Assistant's name. |
| 17:26.57 | NightHawkTheSane | well, incompetent devs can screw up with/without embeds, so either way. :) |
| 17:26.59 | cryogen | heh i'll go with "with" |
| 17:27.01 | Mudkips | we' |
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| 17:27.05 | Mudkips | we'll wailt for the alar hotfix |
| 17:27.08 | xyu` | Hmm neat, i just noticed that new "Chat" tab next to the Guild tab. |
| 17:27.18 | xyu` | Only 109 people in the trade channeL? |
| 17:27.19 | xyu` | hard to believe. |
| 17:27.35 | NightHawkTheSane | xyu`: i know, it seems like so much more stupid is present. |
| 17:28.32 | vhaarr | haste: oooh it's true, the horrible truth! |
| 17:28.33 | cryogen | 48468.20 |
| 17:28.35 | Higdur | sigh, where to even start about disabling addons? :/ |
| 17:28.36 | cryogen | wth is the .20? |
| 17:28.46 | vhaarr | haste: I'm just sad I didn't code alarlib before he did |
| 17:29.04 | CIA-22 | 03celellach * r49898 10AtlasLoot_RepFactions/rep.lua: |
| 17:29.04 | CIA-22 | AtlasLoot_RepFactions: |
| 17:29.04 | CIA-22 | - Fixed rep needed for Recipe: Flask of Chromatic Wonder. |
| 17:29.08 | vhaarr | seems like such a useful tool |
| 17:29.14 | haste | vhaarr: I feel the same way |
| 17:29.14 | CIA-22 | 03funkydude * r49899 10ag_UnitFrames/ag_UnitFrames.toc: ag_UnitFrames: toc update |
| 17:29.23 | Stanzilla2 | cool |
| 17:29.41 | Stanzilla2 | is the pet aggro issue in omen known? |
| 17:29.43 | NightHawkTheSane | cryogen: a version number? the .20 just represents library updates, and not updates to the mod itself. |
| 17:30.16 | cryogen | ah nice, thanks |
| 17:30.22 | Nickenyfiken | Uh what is AlarLib? |
| 17:30.39 | Mikk | The new Rock contender? |
| 17:30.51 | haste | something like that |
| 17:31.05 | Mikk | It's a fascinating read |
| 17:31.16 | Mikk | It's all-libs-you-ever-used-in-one |
| 17:31.29 | Mikk | And wrappers for every single blizzard api alar ever used |
| 17:31.30 | haste | and so optimized |
| 17:31.33 | Mikk | oya |
| 17:31.47 | cryogen | sounds.. efficient |
| 17:31.50 | Fisker- | ´wtf |
| 17:31.53 | Fisker- | that makes no sense |
| 17:31.58 | haste | my favorite is the getiteminfo funciton, by far |
| 17:32.00 | Fisker- | they're making blind not require a reagent again |
| 17:32.01 | Fisker- | in 2.3 |
| 17:32.14 | cryogen | Fisker-: wasnt that supposed to be in 2.2? |
| 17:32.22 | Gnarfoz | wasn't |
| 17:32.24 | haste | they removed it again |
| 17:32.36 | CIA-22 | 03sinaloit * r49900 10BigBrother/BigBrother.toc: |
| 17:32.36 | CIA-22 | BigBrother: |
| 17:32.36 | CIA-22 | - Updated TOC to 20200 |
| 17:32.36 | CIA-22 | - OptDep of LibParser-4.0 for 3.0/1.1 fallback |
| 17:32.40 | Gnarfoz | they just put it in the notes at one point, it was never part of any public build |
| 17:32.52 | cryogen | i was looking forward to that |
| 17:33.00 | Gnarfoz | why |
| 17:33.02 | Ellipsis | silly people |
| 17:33.11 | Ellipsis | everyone knows Blizz hates melee classes |
| 17:33.12 | Fisker- | hmm Gnarfoz as far as i heard a new build was just up immediately |
| 17:33.16 | Ellipsis | play casters like the rest of us |
| 17:33.16 | cryogen | because i have a rogue alt :) |
| 17:33.24 | Fisker- | but blind is going to be melee |
| 17:33.24 | Fisker- | :/ |
| 17:33.30 | Gnarfoz | I have a rogue *main* and it's not bothering me |
| 17:33.32 | Fisker- | which sucks as hell |
| 17:33.36 | Mikk | no i take that back |
| 17:33.43 | Mikk | my favourite is AMO:Format(...) |
| 17:33.45 | Mikk | it takes all your arguments |
| 17:33.45 | xyu` | hmm my cartographer is not showing most of outlands instances, in fact it only shows mana-tombs :/ |
| 17:33.48 | Mikk | stuffs them in a table |
| 17:33.59 | Mikk | then runs format(unpack(table)) |
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| 17:34.06 | Hock | anyone here use mobinfo2? |
| 17:34.07 | vhaarr | brilliant |
| 17:34.07 | Mudkips | is there something I can look at that will give me hints on the names of UI frames? like ChatFrame1 |
| 17:34.14 | Higdur | right, I wonder how many hours it's going to take before I manage to login? |
| 17:34.27 | Hock | if you do, what tooltip mod do you use it with? |
| 17:34.28 | Mikk | Mudkips: iriels devtools |
| 17:34.36 | cncfanatics | Mikk, how else wld u do that though ? |
| 17:34.50 | Ellipsis | ... |
| 17:35.19 | NightHawkTheSane | "would", "you" |
| 17:35.27 | haste | Mikk: oh wow |
| 17:35.29 | cncfanatics | I'm in a hurry, sorry :p |
| 17:35.37 | Mikk | haste: wonderful innit? =) |
| 17:35.41 | Trae | Something tells me it ain't going to be easy to get voice working with Linux |
| 17:35.41 | NightHawkTheSane | So learn to type faster, not dumber. :P |
| 17:35.48 | haste | that's.. a very odd way of doing it |
| 17:35.53 | cncfanatics | NightHawkTheSane, typing faster would be rather hard for me |
| 17:35.59 | Ellipsis | bonus points for creativity? |
| 17:36.01 | Mikk | function AMO:Is(class,target) <- beautifully named function name |
| 17:36.07 | cncfanatics | format(...), would be better btw, stupid I didnt see that right away :p |
| 17:36.14 | cncfanatics | Mikk, what mod is that atrocity ? |
| 17:36.15 | Ellipsis | it's my freaking nick! |
| 17:36.31 | haste | function AMO:Boolean(toggle) << also hot |
| 17:36.40 | cncfanatics | what mod is AMO ? :o |
| 17:37.06 | haste | function AMO:Printf(...) self:Print(...) end |
| 17:37.07 | haste | :D |
| 17:37.23 | Higdur | oh, lovely, can't login without addons either |
| 17:37.32 | haste | cncfanatics: it's AlarLib |
| 17:37.53 | cncfanatics | who wrote that ? |
| 17:37.58 | Mikk | alar |
| 17:38.05 | Mikk | it's also "!AlarLib", not just "AlarLib" |
| 17:38.14 | Mikk | obviously he can't get his own dependencies right |
| 17:38.23 | haste | I noticed that also |
| 17:39.09 | JoshBorke | ~lart the room |
| 17:39.09 | purl | beats the living hamstercrap out of the room |
| 17:39.18 | kadrahil | ~flee |
| 17:39.18 | purl | ACTION runs away screaming |
| 17:39.28 | JoshBorke | why are you bashing thi Alar person? |
| 17:39.29 | neenee | ~cookie |
| 17:39.37 | neenee | oO |
| 17:39.40 | Ellipsis | ~emo |
| 17:39.40 | purl | /wrists |
| 17:39.48 | kadrahil | heh |
| 17:40.38 | haste | god.. I'm starting to want to gauge out my left eye and eat it again... |
| 17:41.09 | Mikk | oooh i think i recognize that millisecond precision server time implementation |
| 17:41.10 | Mikk | oh |
| 17:41.11 | Mikk | wait |
| 17:41.13 | Mikk | i know why |
| 17:41.13 | Mikk | i wrote it |
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| 17:41.30 | haste | msg=msg or "Something strange happened" -- just fyi |
| 17:41.32 | cncfanatics | who wrote alarlib ? :p |
| 17:41.47 | Ellipsis | wow |
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| 17:41.59 | JoshBorke | i do that haste |
| 17:42.13 | mbp | ~wau |
| 17:42.14 | purl | [wau] WowAceUpdater, found at http://www.wowace.com/wau/publish.htm - Easy mass update to all the addons you have installed from the Wowace repository, where many Ace addons reside. |
| 17:42.26 | Mikk | ãlar |
| 17:42.30 | Mikk | ~alar |
| 17:42.47 | Mikk | purl, alar is an author of hilariously funny wow addons - at least code wise |
| 17:42.48 | purl | Mikk: okay |
| 17:42.57 | Ellipsis | I lol'ed |
| 17:43.18 | haste | I kinda wonder if I want to look at the add-ons using this lib |
| 17:43.19 | cncfanatics | that guy has to l2code hard |
| 17:43.26 | cncfanatics | any addons use it ??? ?? |
| 17:43.31 | Ellipsis | haste, I was just thinking that |
| 17:43.32 | cncfanatics | I hope they're his too |
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| 17:43.47 | haste | they are :p |
| 17:43.53 | Mikk | yeah there's a bunch of AlarSomething addons on the svn now too |
| 17:44.01 | Mikk | dear god help us all |
| 17:44.12 | Mikk | i'm just saying... if joe user comes along and checks out some addons |
| 17:44.15 | cncfanatics | first, dont put ur name in ur addons |
| 17:44.17 | Mikk | and finds that alar stuff at the top of the list |
| 17:44.28 | Mikk | he'll run screaming away and never come back |
| 17:44.35 | frop | someone using DogChow? |
| 17:44.39 | cryogen | note to self: click load out of date addons |
| 17:44.45 | frop | what's the slash command for it? |
| 17:44.48 | Ellipsis | note to cryogen: click load out of date addons |
| 17:44.57 | cryogen | note to Toadkiller: bump the autobar toc :) |
| 17:44.58 | break19 | anyone else having trouble getting voice chat to actually work? I've disabled all addons on both mine and my wife's machines.. press the button to talk, it appears to talk on the "sender" end, but no sound comes thru on the "receiver" end |
| 17:45.19 | Mikk | break19: and you're grouped etc? |
| 17:45.23 | Ellipsis | break19, I heard it hardly worked half the time on PTR...wouldn't be surprised if it was a Blizz issue |
| 17:45.24 | break19 | Mikk: ya |
| 17:45.26 | vithos | autobar isn't working for me, so i think he should probably fix it before bumping the toc :P |
| 17:45.39 | Mikk | vithos: did you upgrade in the last few hours? it was recently fixed |
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| 17:45.43 | Mikk | or believed to be fixed |
| 17:45.44 | vithos | oh, no |
| 17:45.49 | vithos | haven't tried since yesterday |
| 17:45.54 | Mikk | try again then |
| 17:46.10 | Ellipsis | rofl |
| 17:46.16 | cryogen | its been fixed most of the day |
| 17:46.20 | Mudkips | Blizz fails @ coding in voice |
| 17:46.22 | cryogen | its only recently been "really" fixed |
| 17:46.23 | Mudkips | is it really that hard? |
| 17:46.31 | vithos | sorry, i just kinda figured if he had fixed it he would have bumped the toc at the same time |
| 17:46.39 | Mudkips | I mean... online fps games have been using them for ages |
| 17:46.39 | Hock | mobinfo2 - anyone use it? if so, what tooltip addon do you use? |
| 17:46.52 | Ellipsis | AlarAutomation |
| 17:46.53 | Ellipsis | Adds 4 chat commands: |
| 17:46.53 | Ellipsis | /ig message : Speak in guild chat without modifying current default channel |
| 17:47.04 | Ellipsis | (and so on for say, party, raid) |
| 17:47.28 | Higdur | how come I can logon to my laptop fine, even with all addons enabled that I haven't updated in several months, while I can't even logon without addons on my stationary? |
| 17:47.31 | Toadkiller | Toadkiller is lazy & unlikely to bump the toc till a week or so from now when the alpha goes beta. |
| 17:47.33 | haste | alar has changed my definition of bloat btw |
| 17:47.34 | cncfanatics | GRRR DONT PUT UR NAME IN FRONT OF UR ADDON DAMNIT |
| 17:47.48 | cryogen | bad Toadkiller *spank* |
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| 17:47.57 | Nickenyfiken | Who is the author of Tattle? |
| 17:48.00 | Toadkiller | You can bump it if u like ;-p |
| 17:48.02 | Ellipsis | autodismount: enable autodismounting on Can't do while mounted error (doesnt work for summoned mounts - sorry for paladins and warlocks) |
| 17:48.12 | Ellipsis | how do you implement that *without* letting it work for summoned mounts? |
| 17:48.27 | haste | I wonder the same now *checks* |
| 17:48.29 | Ellipsis | I guess by using an inventory item instead of canceling an aura? |
| 17:48.53 | Toadkiller | Er, doesnt autodismount work straight up from the blizz UI? |
| 17:49.00 | break19 | yea |
| 17:49.03 | Mudkips | Did anyone get rid of their itemrack 1.9? |
| 17:49.15 | Higdur | gah, fuck patchdays |
| 17:49.16 | Gnarfoz | Nickenyfiken: nymbia |
| 17:49.16 | Ellipsis | I'm just going to assume/pretend this code was written before that was added, Toadkiller |
| 17:49.23 | Toadkiller | lol no I just moved the folder, ug to the 2.x &then reverted |
| 17:50.11 | haste | cncfanatics: I'll start asking you for names on add-ons btw |
| 17:50.21 | Toadkiller | The old itemrack seems fine especially if u fix those 2 lines that need self |
| 17:50.22 | cncfanatics | omg ? alar's art remover has LIBS |
| 17:50.30 | haste | yes :3 |
| 17:50.31 | break19 | rofl |
| 17:50.32 | cncfanatics | how can an ART REMOVER have DEPENCIES ? |
| 17:50.32 | haste | and his own lib also |
| 17:50.33 | *** join/#wowace labzuk (n=labzuk@AToulouse-210-1-2-36.w80-11.abo.wanadoo.fr) |
| 17:50.43 | cncfanatics | seriously |
| 17:50.56 | Toadkiller | Maybe hes making a ... framework! |
| 17:51.05 | MoonWitch | ... |
| 17:51.11 | vithos | ah yes, autobar does work now :) |
| 17:51.17 | Mudkips | 2.1 sucked bigtime, I"m using closetgnome now with tricket menu ( too bad you are limited to a single keypress for trinket binds) |
| 17:51.19 | Toadkiller | sweet. |
| 17:51.55 | Higdur | anything else I can delete to try to get things working than the cache folder? |
| 17:51.55 | dreamss | any idea if they fixed the seasonal quest for BE/drenai? |
| 17:51.57 | vithos | it was weird having to open my bags for stuff between hyjal instance server going down last night |
| 17:52.21 | vithos | <3 autobar |
| 17:52.27 | haste | dar |
| 17:52.31 | Mudkips | open bags??!!!??!???! |
| 17:52.37 | Toadkiller | gah we got to Alar, buffed, got to 4 in the countdown then kaboom, server barf |
| 17:52.52 | Mudkips | alar is broken anyway |
| 17:53.01 | Hock | alar is just beefier |
| 17:53.05 | Toadkiller | Must be using the alar libs? |
| 17:53.11 | Mudkips | like 15 second adds |
| 17:53.16 | genetik- | that's been hotfixed |
| 17:53.18 | Hock | he's just pissed it was patch day |
| 17:53.23 | Toadkiller | mmm yeah i see what u mean about bloat ;-p |
| 17:53.24 | Hock | or was, rather |
| 17:53.25 | Mudkips | ya hotfix thank jebus |
| 17:53.25 | CIA-22 | 03saroz * r49901 10sRaidFrames/sRaidFrames.toc: sRaidFrames: Update TOC... (Hi people on IRC!) |
| 17:53.26 | Saroz | *wave* |
| 17:53.35 | vithos | holy crap. 1 second delay opening bags now |
| 17:53.36 | Mudkips | I don't get why blizz even touched the boss code |
| 17:53.39 | Ellipsis | half of the comments in the Alar* addons aren't even in english |
| 17:53.43 | Mudkips | ninja changes like this piss me off |
| 17:53.56 | kenlyric | Mudkips: are you new to WoW? |
| 17:53.58 | Ellipsis | I don't know whether I should feel like I'm missing something, or have just avoided having my eyes melted |
| 17:54.04 | Hock | it was probably some dev thinking "heh, this will be funny" |
| 17:54.09 | Mudkips | kenlyric, yeah |
| 17:54.11 | kenlyric | theyh make ninja changes to all bosses every patch to keep people interested, of course. |
| 17:54.12 | Hock | it's like I was when I was a kid and had an ant farm. |
| 17:54.16 | Mudkips | I just started 2 weeks ago |
| 17:54.18 | Mudkips | now I"m in BT |
| 17:54.39 | kadrahil | :p |
| 17:55.24 | Ominous | should we change to use LibBabbleSpell-3.0 or stay with 2.0 on an ace2 addon? |
| 17:55.41 | Gnarfoz | change to AlarBabbleSpell-7.0-Extra |
| 17:55.55 | Ominous | Gnarfoz: ? |
| 17:55.58 | Ellipsis | why is Alar afraid of API functions? |
| 17:56.01 | Gnarfoz | Ominous: nevermind ;-) |
| 17:56.11 | Toadkiller | Yeah go with Alar's libs, you don't want to miss out on any feature |
| 17:56.22 | Mikk | Ominous: what makes you think old addons would use new libs that they don't know about? oO |
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| 17:56.31 | *** mode/#wowace [+v MentalPower] by ChanServ |
| 17:56.33 | Ominous | Mikk: i mean coding wise |
| 17:56.44 | kenlyric | why are we letting bosses write mobs? |
| 17:56.47 | Ellipsis | AlarBGHelper.lua re-implements GetTime() |
| 17:56.47 | Ominous | Mikk: should i change my ace2 mod to use LibBabble3 |
| 17:56.50 | Ellipsis | what? |
| 17:56.52 | Mikk | ah |
| 17:56.52 | Mikk | erm |
| 17:57.01 | Mikk | i wouldn't use it myself yet |
| 17:57.02 | Mikk | but that's me |
| 17:57.08 | Ominous | reason? |
| 17:57.09 | Toadkiller | It has backwards & forwards compatability layers & injects itself into your mod... |
| 17:57.43 | Mikk | mostly because i haven't checked out if there's rock stuff in there |
| 17:57.58 | Ellipsis | has this guy ever heard of variable scope? |
| 17:57.59 | Toadkiller | Alar lib is truly a stupendous achievement in coding |
| 17:57.59 | Ominous | Mikk: there isnt afaik |
| 17:58.05 | CIA-22 | 03ackis * r49902 10AckisRecipeList/AckisRecipeList.lua: |
| 17:58.05 | CIA-22 | AckisRecipeList: |
| 17:58.05 | CIA-22 | - Added beast training functionality (a lot of abilities are missing) |
| 17:58.05 | CIA-22 | - Updated alchemy, cooking (to skill 150), enchanting, smelting, rogue poisons |
| 17:58.05 | Ellipsis | not *everything* has to be declared at the top of the file |
| 17:58.14 | Ominous | Mikk: i am pretty sure it has nothing except LibStub |
| 17:58.16 | Shadowed | You can disable memo in AceComm right? |
| 17:59.01 | cncfanatics | hmmm, how would I anchor a frame to its closest anchor point myself using SetPoint ? |
| 17:59.02 | Ellipsis | can this be the classic example to give a user who wants an Aced such and such addon because "Ace mods are faster"? |
| 17:59.05 | cncfanatics | seems quite hard |
| 17:59.07 | Mikk | plus there's the whole deal with libstub libs not being in !!!SAL |
| 17:59.08 | Toadkiller | Lol that reminds me of this bug AutoBar had once. Turns out some bright spark verbatim copied some AutoBar code & used it as is, global variables &all thus clobering AutoBar with old code. What a nightmare... |
| 17:59.11 | Mikk | and people with old updaters |
| 17:59.32 | cryogen | Toadkiller: sweet |
| 17:59.40 | Mikk | anyway, that's me |
| 17:59.55 | Ellipsis | people still rely on !!!SAL? |
| 18:00.07 | Toadkiller | Que? |
| 18:00.26 | Tinyboom | can anyone tell what distro is the easiest to test wow on, been tempted to try for quite a while:) |
| 18:00.26 | vithos | enhtooltip used 60400 milliseconds when i talked to a banker. ouch. |
| 18:00.32 | Mikk | Ellipsis: yes, quite a few, judging from people screaming here and forums |
| 18:00.54 | Ellipsis | function ABH:Apply(key,valore) |
| 18:00.56 | Tinyboom | thinking of ubuntu... |
| 18:01.01 | Ellipsis | I totally know exactly what that function does |
| 18:01.24 | Mikk | Ellipsis: check out :Is() |
| 18:01.51 | cncfanatics | Tinyboom, any works rly |
| 18:01.53 | Ellipsis | I'm looking at the BGHelper |
| 18:01.56 | cncfanatics | its wine that matters, not ur distro |
| 18:01.59 | Ellipsis | I'm afraid of the lib |
| 18:02.00 | cncfanatics | personaly I like debian a lot :p |
| 18:02.15 | pastamancer | Mikk: the new babble is libstub only |
| 18:02.18 | Tinyboom | true, but has to be easy to maintain/set up too:) |
| 18:02.27 | Mikk | pastamancer: kewl |
| 18:02.30 | Ellipsis | function ABH:CmdTest(arg1) |
| 18:02.34 | Ellipsis | DANGER! |
| 18:02.34 | cncfanatics | Tinyboom, if ur a linux nub I recommend starting with mandrake |
| 18:02.44 | cncfanatics | oh wait, mandriva I mean, it got renamed |
| 18:02.51 | cryogen | Toadkiller: was refering to the asshat clobbering autobar thing |
| 18:02.57 | cryogen | Toadkiller: ayway, where's the alpha at? |
| 18:03.15 | Mudkips | wow mandrake |
| 18:03.17 | Mikk | pastamancer: oh yeah, i totally forgot you were in on the redesign |
| 18:03.21 | Mikk | pastamancer: sry =) |
| 18:03.24 | HarrisonF | ubuntu is good for new people to linux |
| 18:03.37 | Nickenyfiken | ~seen nymbia |
| 18:03.42 | purl | nymbia <n=nymbia@71-218-149-62.hlrn.qwest.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 3d 14h 26m 15s ago, saying: 'Ellipsis: grats!'. |
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| 18:04.09 | Ellipsis | o.O |
| 18:04.21 | Ellipsis | I don't even know what I was being congratulated for |
| 18:04.23 | Ellipsis | that makes me feel bad =[ |
| 18:04.29 | Tinyboom | cncfanatics: not complete nub, been using ubuntu a bit and tried debian a couple of times:) oh well, giving ubuntu a go on a separate disk just to tinker with something... |
| 18:04.35 | CIA-22 | 03nevcairiel * r49903 10Bartender3/ (23 files in 2 dirs): Bartender3: merged 2.2 branch, keep in mind to quit the game before updating, or it will break. check changelog for more details. |
| 18:05.05 | *** join/#wowace Adys|sleep (i=Adys@APoitiers-257-1-57-65.w86-205.abo.wanadoo.fr) |
| 18:05.05 | Mudkips | "keep in mind to quit the game before updating," |
| 18:05.05 | Mikk | huaaa slack |
| 18:05.05 | cncfanatics | nevcairiel, what u added ? |
| 18:05.05 | Mudkips | . . . |
| 18:05.09 | Mikk | slack is teh evuhls |
| 18:05.12 | nevcairiel | cncfanatics: changelog.txt |
| 18:05.22 | Fisker- | actually i don't |
| 18:05.32 | Ellipsis | function ABH:GetAttribute(frame,tipo) if (type(frame) == "table") then frame=frame:GetName() end self:Debug("Frame: %s Tipo: %s",frame,tipo)end |
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| 18:05.46 | Ellipsis | there is no translation of "tipo" for which that code makes any sense whatsoever |
| 18:05.59 | cncfanatics | nevcairiel, I dont got bt3 installed :p just curious |
| 18:06.39 | nevcairiel | check svn for the changelog then :P |
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| 18:07.59 | HarrisonF | did oCB2 get renamed or something? I see it listed on the Alternatives to common addons page, but I can't find it in WAU or on the website |
| 18:08.50 | Mudkips | ya use quartz |
| 18:08.56 | Saroz | ehhh wtf they bugged alar |
| 18:09.09 | Ellipsis | welcome to 5 mins ago, Saroz :P |
| 18:09.32 | Imp4kT | What mod is it that causes me not to be able to hover over my items in the Character window? |
| 18:09.43 | HarrisonF | Mudkips, thank you, i'll try it |
| 18:09.46 | Kahlas | x-perl i think? |
| 18:09.49 | Ellipsis | Imp4kT, a lot of people have that trouble with outdated ItemRack |
| 18:09.52 | Mudkips | itemrack is updated http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info4148-ItemRack.html |
| 18:09.54 | Saroz | FUCKING CUNT BLIZZARD |
| 18:09.55 | Kahlas | ah, maybe itemrack |
| 18:09.56 | Imp4kT | Thanks |
| 18:10.01 | Ellipsis | calmmmmm |
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| 18:10.04 | Amadeo | I feel like I lost a lot of framerate with 2.2, is it just me? |
| 18:10.13 | Mudkips | someone said they gained some |
| 18:10.13 | Kahlas | Amadeo, probably mod issues |
| 18:10.15 | Mikk | my framerate halved |
| 18:10.15 | Mudkips | its all in your head |
| 18:10.19 | Imp4kT | Thanks |
| 18:10.24 | Amadeo | Yay, I'm not nuts |
| 18:10.29 | Saroz | WTF alar adds |
| 18:10.30 | Ellipsis | I'm having performance issues with some of my addons since patch too >_> |
| 18:10.32 | Amadeo | I was suspecting the sound system, but who knows |
| 18:10.47 | Mikk | mmm my sound system runs at 75% sample speed |
| 18:10.48 | Mikk | or 50% |
| 18:10.49 | Mikk | sounds horrible |
| 18:10.49 | cryogen | wtf, fubar is using 3M? |
| 18:10.50 | Kahlas | that's a possibility |
| 18:10.54 | Mudkips | my sound was all screwd up in TK last night |
| 18:11.13 | Amadeo | I'm getting like 19 fps in Thrallmar now, lol |
| 18:11.18 | Tinyboom | hmm, would it work to just copy the entire wow folder over to wine/linux or would I have to install it first? :) |
| 18:11.23 | Mikk | just copy |
| 18:11.26 | durcyn | copy. |
| 18:11.30 | Tinyboom | thanks:) |
| 18:11.36 | Mikk | i've reinstalled my puter three times, just copied wow |
| 18:11.43 | Mikk | "installed" it on my gfs puter by just copying too |
| 18:11.43 | Tinyboom | same, but on xp |
| 18:11.51 | Ellipsis | durcyn! |
| 18:11.59 | Ellipsis | did you clean up your tcgTradeskills mess? |
| 18:12.35 | Higdur | does anyone have a something to try against all naked adn Unknowns upon login? |
| 18:12.42 | *** part/#wowace mitchnull (n=mitchnul@dsl217-197-180-34.pool.tvnet.hu) |
| 18:12.44 | durcyn | Ellipsis: huh? |
| 18:12.45 | Ellipsis | Higdur: did you clear your cache? |
| 18:12.51 | Higdur | several times |
| 18:12.56 | Higdur | adn rebooted |
| 18:12.59 | Ellipsis | durcyn: you made a commit to tcg a couple hours ago and now it's throwing translation errors |
| 18:13.04 | Higdur | works fine on my laptop |
| 18:13.05 | durcyn | Ellipsis: no, i was hoping for feedback. blizzard totally fucked up the tradeskills for alchemy specs. |
| 18:13.08 | durcyn | Ellipsis: ah, sec |
| 18:13.28 | Ellipsis | the specializations are not translated in Babble-Spell |
| 18:13.56 | durcyn | it's not using BS for tradeskill names. |
| 18:14.00 | Ellipsis | [2007/09/26 10:33:08-69-x1]: AceLocale-2.2-40629 (Ace2):487: Babble-Spell-2.2: Translation "Transmutation Master" does not exist. |
| 18:14.06 | Ellipsis | O RLY? |
| 18:14.20 | Fisker- | OH |
| 18:14.21 | Fisker- | MY |
| 18:14.23 | Fisker- | GOD |
| 18:14.24 | Fisker- | http://forums.wow-europe.com/thread.html?topicId=1015942003&sid=1 |
| 18:14.27 | durcyn | should just be pulling GetSpellIcon on Alchemy for it |
| 18:14.48 | durcyn | and my commit message did say "crappy hack" =) |
| 18:14.49 | Ellipsis | I don't even *have* Alchemy |
| 18:15.02 | durcyn | yes, it gets parsed anyway. one minute. |
| 18:15.05 | CIA-22 | 03nevcairiel 07andreasg * r49904 10ag_UnitFrames/ag_UnitFrames/ag_UnitClass.lua: ag_UnitFrames: fixed a bug with tooltip OnEnter |
| 18:15.08 | Ellipsis | I know, but I still expect crappy hacks not to break things for people who don't use the feature in question :P |
| 18:15.13 | Higdur | Ellipsis: I tried to remove my WTF folder too, no go |
| 18:15.18 | durcyn | hey, dry coding is the best coding. |
| 18:15.26 | durcyn | don't let anyone tell you otherwise |
| 18:15.27 | Higdur | and I've run the repair check |
| 18:15.33 | Ellipsis | Higdur: http://faq.wow-europe.com/en/article.php?id=028 |
| 18:15.36 | Higdur | durcyn: oh yes indeed |
| 18:15.42 | Ellipsis | durcyn: don't make me slap you :P |
| 18:15.55 | Amadeo | Higdur: Laptop running the same addons? |
| 18:15.57 | durcyn | Ellipsis: i like a little pain with my pleasure. |
| 18:16.01 | CIA-22 | 03ominous * r49905 10ClassTimer/ (ClassTimer.lua ClassTimer.toc): ClassTimer: toc bump and now warlocks pets now are scanned |
| 18:16.08 | Mikk | "Speed and Duplex Setting : Force 100 Mbit Full Duplex *" <- do. not. do. this. |
| 18:16.10 | Higdur | Amadeo: doesn't work with addons disabled either |
| 18:16.17 | Amadeo | I figured |
| 18:16.18 | Amadeo | hehe |
| 18:16.29 | Mikk | forcing duplex is nearly never the right thing to do |
| 18:16.34 | durcyn | Mikk: works fine if you hardcode the switchport too |
| 18:16.39 | Mikk | ya |
| 18:16.43 | durcyn | Mikk: otherwise lolatyou |
| 18:16.43 | Mikk | but where does it say to do that? |
| 18:16.44 | Ellipsis | durcyn: rawr, then send a PM my way ;) |
| 18:16.46 | Kahlas | auto-negotiate can have problems too |
| 18:16.51 | Mikk | durcyn: precisely |
| 18:16.53 | Ellipsis | but not until you fix tcg~ |
| 18:16.57 | Higdur | Ellipsis: will check it out, thanks |
| 18:17.02 | Mikk | Kahlas: yah but then set it to 100mbit half duplex |
| 18:17.07 | Mikk | then the switch defaults to half |
| 18:17.09 | Kahlas | heh |
| 18:17.13 | Kahlas | fun! |
| 18:17.22 | Mikk | it's not as good as a working full duplex |
| 18:17.27 | Mikk | but it's a LOT better than a mismatching full<>half |
| 18:17.37 | Mikk | be lucky if you can cram 5 megabits through a mismatch |
| 18:17.39 | Mudkips | ( Ellipsis ) Higdur: http://faq.wow-europe.com/en/article.php?id=028 |
| 18:17.40 | CIA-22 | 03nevcairiel * r49906 10ag_UnitFrames/ag_UnitClass.lua: ag_UnitFrames: fix for the fix |
| 18:17.41 | Mudkips | no wai |
| 18:17.47 | Stanzilla2 | Higdur: http://faq.wow-europe.com/en/article.php?id=028 |
| 18:17.52 | Stanzilla2 | that will solve your problems |
| 18:17.59 | Ellipsis | in b4 Stanzilla |
| 18:18.03 | Mudkips | I've been having problems with slow model loading.... If it fixes this I'm in debt |
| 18:18.03 | Ellipsis | XD |
| 18:18.03 | Stanzilla2 | :( |
| 18:18.06 | Stanzilla2 | too slow :( |
| 18:18.16 | Ellipsis | gl Mudkips <3 |
| 18:18.20 | Mudkips | <nforce2 chipset |
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| 18:18.26 | Mudkips | old computer is old |
| 18:18.57 | Stanzilla2 | Ellipsis: http://icanhascheezburger.files.wordpress.com/2007/09/128340255737500000umayrubmybel.jpg |
| 18:19.01 | Ellipsis | gb2 4chan w/ur memes |
| 18:19.08 | Mudkips | no u |
| 18:19.14 | cryogen | ckknight: did you fix the stealth bug? |
| 18:19.28 | Ellipsis | Stanzilla, cute, but I already read ICHC every day so :P |
| 18:19.41 | Stanzilla2 | Ellipsis: I just love that site :p |
| 18:19.42 | markm | hrmm |
| 18:20.07 | CIA-22 | 03durcyn * r49907 10Babble-2.2/Babble-Tradeskill-2.2/Babble-Tradeskill-2.2.lua: Babble-2.2: Babble-Tradeskill-2.2: Add Alchemy specializations. |
| 18:20.14 | Mudkips | my big orange cat always sleeps like that |
| 18:20.17 | Mudkips | spread eagle |
| 18:20.19 | markm | onebank is acting odd |
| 18:20.20 | markm | s |
| 18:20.23 | markm | something isn't right |
| 18:20.45 | durcyn | Ellipsis: not yet. tcg's still using -Spell for that lookup until I unfux it |
| 18:20.57 | Ellipsis | that's why I gave you a cookie and not some hot lovings |
| 18:20.57 | Ellipsis | duh |
| 18:21.22 | durcyn | eek. |
| 18:21.25 | Higdur | thanks guys, that helped |
| 18:21.30 | Ellipsis | don't worry, I'll be gentle |
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| 18:23.31 | Mudkips | get a [Room] |
| 18:23.59 | markm | Good things to see from jwowupdater's changelog |
| 18:24.06 | markm | "Remember to quit before updating or this will break" |
| 18:24.10 | markm | haha |
| 18:24.14 | markm | while i"m logged in |
| 18:24.53 | CIA-22 | 03boydon * r49908 10Postal/ (Modules/OpenAll.lua Postal.toc): |
| 18:24.53 | CIA-22 | Postal: |
| 18:24.53 | CIA-22 | - Updated TOC for patch 2.2 |
| 18:24.53 | CIA-22 | - OpenAll now is a bit slower, but should skip less messages |
| 18:25.56 | Amadeo | ok, I've been using XChat in Windows for a few days, but I just can't do it anymore! |
| 18:25.57 | nevcairiel | that happens when you add new files |
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| 18:26.04 | nevcairiel | you have to quit the game |
| 18:26.45 | neenee | Is there a list of all dogtag variables? |
| 18:26.51 | neenee | found it |
| 18:26.54 | neenee | http://www.wowace.com/wiki/DogTag-1.0/Tags |
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| 18:28.19 | Gnarfoz | I don't get why people update addons while logged in, at all |
| 18:28.31 | NightHawkTheSane | indeed. |
| 18:28.36 | vithos | heh yeah |
| 18:29.59 | neenee | Hm. For some reason [IsPlayer?ShortClass:HostileColor!ShortRace:HostileColor] does not show anything for mobs |
| 18:30.18 | Ellipsis | I do it |
| 18:30.27 | Ellipsis | I run an update and /rl, if anything's broken I restart the game >_> |
| 18:30.39 | Fisker- | 92 commits to go |
| 18:31.48 | irandamay | I do it a lot too if I've got probs and I see a commit go through for a fix |
| 18:32.07 | CIA-22 | 03durcyn * r49909 10FuBar_tcgTradeskills/ (Cooldown.lua Core.lua FuBar_tcgTradeskills.toc): |
| 18:32.07 | CIA-22 | FuBar_tcgTradeskills: use Babble-Tradeskill instead of Babble-Spell. In theory, |
| 18:32.07 | CIA-22 | this fixes translation errors from the last commit. In reality, it's probably a |
| 18:32.07 | CIA-22 | drycoded hairball-esque mess. If it breaks, you get to keep both pieces. |
| 18:32.22 | vithos | neenee: could it be.. the IsPlayer? |
| 18:32.37 | vithos | oh, nevermind. |
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| 18:33.15 | neenee | Hm |
| 18:33.18 | I_D | hi |
| 18:33.20 | neenee | I'll just try some things |
| 18:33.36 | I_D | how can I disable "the rock"? |
| 18:33.42 | neenee | you can't. |
| 18:33.45 | neenee | You're stuck with it. |
| 18:33.52 | neenee | No more popup menus for you. |
| 18:33.52 | I_D | what do you mean |
| 18:34.01 | neenee | Or do you mean the icon at your minimap |
| 18:34.09 | I_D | nah, the nice barconfigs |
| 18:34.11 | vithos | neenee: i wonder if it could be you need to group the iftrue/iffalse parts somehow |
| 18:34.39 | neenee | You will have to use the Rock to configure things now I_D |
| 18:34.55 | neenee | vithos, hm.. Maybe. I'll see if they work separately. |
| 18:35.04 | I_D | nonsense, there has to be a way to disable this clumsy thing |
| 18:35.11 | neenee | I_D, nope. |
| 18:35.12 | CIA-22 | 03durcyn * r49910 10FuBar_tcgTradeskills/ (embeds.xml libs/): FuBar_tcgTradeskills: fix embeds.xml and svn;externals for Babble-Tradeskill |
| 18:35.21 | Ellipsis | I_D, if you don't want to use RockConfig, don't use it >_> |
| 18:35.43 | Ellipsis | the framework is gonna be there no matter what |
| 18:35.43 | I_D | well I tried right clicking my bar to add a mod, and this fugly rock thing keeps popping in my face |
| 18:35.55 | Ellipsis | that's how you add FuBar plugins now |
| 18:36.03 | I_D | great |
| 18:36.38 | neenee | But feel free to post on the forums with suggestions on how to improve it. |
| 18:36.46 | Ellipsis | better yet, post suggestions on jira |
| 18:36.50 | I_D | I just discovered ace, and it's offered me wonderfull alternatives to bloated and clumsy mods |
| 18:36.52 | Gnarfoz | "revert" = improvement :> |
| 18:37.17 | I_D | sucks that I'll have to find a way around even this rock now |
| 18:37.23 | neenee | Well, I dislike it as much as you I_D, though that doesn't help you much. You're not alone is what I mean to say. |
| 18:37.49 | cncfanatics | I_D, ace ~= efficient |
| 18:38.02 | cncfanatics | and quit the rock bullcrap :p |
| 18:38.04 | neenee | But not necessarily intuitive |
| 18:38.08 | vithos | neenee: that dogtag string seems to work for me |
| 18:38.18 | neenee | Hm. |
| 18:38.20 | vithos | i see a red Wr for a warrior mob, and a blue NE for myself |
| 18:38.32 | neenee | Yeah. Woops. I just realized that :) |
| 18:38.35 | neenee | My mistake :) |
| 18:38.48 | neenee | I got it from my Cowtip config and I wanted CreatureType :) |
| 18:38.50 | neenee | or Creature :) |
| 18:38.57 | vithos | ah |
| 18:39.08 | neenee | Thanks for your replies :) I would probably have been mucking about with it without realizing for a while yet otherwise :) |
| 18:39.09 | I_D | will there be any separate development on a non-rock version? |
| 18:39.19 | neenee | I_D, I doubt it |
| 18:39.28 | vithos | hehe, i think i'll work on my cowtip config now that you reminded me.. been meaning to do that for a while |
| 18:39.52 | vithos | I_D: i /think/ i heard rumor that other config style may come back later, but i could be wrong |
| 18:40.05 | cncfanatics | I_D, why do you care at all ? |
| 18:40.07 | vithos | I_D: but yeah basically you're stuck with it for now unless you want to try to use old versions |
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| 18:40.26 | I_D | cncfanatics: I loved fubar |
| 18:40.27 | vithos | I_D: but honestly, just give it a chance. you might find it's not as bad as you initially think |
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| 18:40.47 | Lukian | I_D / vithos : rock? |
| 18:40.58 | cncfanatics | I_D, I mean, why do you care wether its rock or ace ? |
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| 18:41.01 | vithos | yeah, rockconfig |
| 18:41.04 | Trae | http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=3430730#post3430730 :( looks like someone has the same problem I do with Mic on Linux |
| 18:41.18 | I_D | I don't care whatever it is, I just want to keep my "ui" |
| 18:41.20 | lordgreg | good'n'tight everyone |
| 18:41.23 | Lukian | Rockconfig is fine once you get used to it |
| 18:41.31 | I_D | the engine or framework or whatever it runs on doesn't matter to me |
| 18:41.35 | Lukian | dewdrop is slightly quicker / easier though |
| 18:41.38 | cryogen | the config is ok |
| 18:41.38 | durcyn | Ellipsis: tcg, better/worse? |
| 18:41.44 | Ellipsis | durcyn: waiting for files page update |
| 18:41.45 | cryogen | but it does nto fit with fubar imo |
| 18:41.51 | neenee | One thing I mind is that, though it does highlight the category when you say.. shift-right-click a Pitbull frame, it does not 'zoom' to that highlight. It opens the list where you've closed it. |
| 18:42.17 | markm | is anyone else having issues with onebank not updating after you move items to your bags? |
| 18:42.23 | Mudkips | yes markm |
| 18:42.25 | cryogen | fubar's quick clicking changing options fast was one of the best things about it |
| 18:42.25 | markm | k |
| 18:42.26 | markm | thanks |
| 18:42.34 | lordgreg | i'm looking for a similar (ace2 based) addon, something liike Satrina's BuffBars is, but ace2 based. any suggestions? :$ |
| 18:42.36 | I_D | markm, no, but I've had to disable baggins |
| 18:42.38 | neenee | I agree cryogen. It is quite the contrast. |
| 18:42.38 | break19 | cryogen: i agree.. |
| 18:42.39 | Ellipsis | updated, gonna check it out durcyn |
| 18:42.39 | Mudkips | though I will update it tonight when I get home... |
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| 18:42.59 | I_D | lordgreg, lemme know if you find one |
| 18:43.00 | vithos | neenee: true, it'd be better if it automatically scrolled that part of the left frame into view |
| 18:43.05 | cryogen | the gui is fine for addons that need a lot of setting up, or one off settings |
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| 18:43.47 | Ellipsis | 2007/09/26 11:43:22-70-x1]: AceLocale-2.2-40629 (Ace2):487: Babble-Tradeskill-2.2: Translation "Lockpicking" does not exist. |
| 18:43.49 | neenee | vithos, Yup. That's what I mean. Though perhaps something can be said for it opening where you left it, if you 'visit' the same configuration section often. |
| 18:43.50 | Ellipsis | durcyn^ |
| 18:44.17 | NeoTron | so I heard rumblings that Hydross and Void Reaver changed in 2.2 - any truth to that? We never made it past al'ar.. |
| 18:44.23 | durcyn | Ellipsis: grrr. |
| 18:44.27 | cryogen | some fubar plugins actually suit the gui too |
| 18:44.35 | cryogen | but fubar itself doesnt imo, would be nice to mix and match |
| 18:44.43 | Grum | for some reason i cant target people anymore using Clique+Grid O.o |
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| 18:44.52 | durcyn | Ellipsis: this'd be a lot easier if i wasn't at work and unable to test, i think. |
| 18:45.02 | vithos | cryogen: i /think/ i may have heard other config styles may come back eventually, but i could be wrong |
| 18:45.09 | Ellipsis | probably, durcyn |
| 18:45.13 | ag` | is is it just me -- or does the new sound system suck? |
| 18:45.17 | cryogen | either way its not a huge issue |
| 18:45.21 | CIA-22 | 03boydon * r49911 10Postal/Postal.toc: |
| 18:45.22 | CIA-22 | Postal: |
| 18:45.22 | CIA-22 | - Added X-Category to the .toc so the addon is correctly handled by WowAce's Packagemancer |
| 18:45.25 | Mudkips | ag`, I 2nd that |
| 18:45.33 | vithos | ag`: i actually like it |
| 18:45.41 | cryogen | whatsdifferent? :p |
| 18:45.43 | ag` | The reason I don't like it is |
| 18:45.56 | ag` | you get 15 fps drop of you put the channel slider above rock bottom |
| 18:46.06 | vithos | hm |
| 18:46.11 | markm | oh, I'm actually getting onebank errors now, that's at least more clear ;) |
| 18:46.15 | NeoTron | it's using software mixing... and effects |
| 18:46.18 | ag` | well that's in raids |
| 18:46.27 | NeoTron | so I figure it'd be expected to lose FPS due to tha change |
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| 18:46.28 | Ellipsis | ag`, that's probably because your sound hardware isn't so great |
| 18:46.30 | ag` | and if you have the sound channel slider on lowest, it sounds worse than it did |
| 18:46.35 | vithos | i'm actually getting much better fps in raids now, and none of my sliders are at 0% |
| 18:46.35 | Mudkips | ya and it screws with it vent ag' |
| 18:46.42 | NeoTron | Ellipsis: heh. sound doesn't matter if it does all the work in software |
| 18:46.50 | cryogen | i like the fact yiou can choose the output now though |
| 18:46.55 | Ellipsis | NeoTron: is it doing it all in software? |
| 18:46.56 | NeoTron | if anything it might have meant his sound card WAS good and now doesn't do any processing, leaving it to the CPU |
| 18:46.57 | vithos | err, wait. you don't mean the channel volume controls |
| 18:47.16 | ag` | audigy worked just fine BEFORE the patch |
| 18:47.18 | Mudkips | I think he means sound channel slider |
| 18:47.19 | NeoTron | Ellipsis: yes, that's the whole change. it's a software only based sound library |
| 18:47.20 | vithos | sorry. yeah i have it on the lowest settings. setting it higher under the old system made me have no sound at all, with an x-fi |
| 18:47.25 | Mudkips | I don't exactly know what sound channels do for wow |
| 18:47.29 | Gnarfoz | ag`: audigy's features are not used anymore, now |
| 18:47.31 | NeoTron | it is independant on the sound hardware |
| 18:47.35 | Gnarfoz | it's all software rendering, mixing, etc. |
| 18:47.44 | neenee | I bought an X-Fi just before Vista.. |
| 18:47.46 | neenee | big mistake. |
| 18:47.49 | ag` | why the fuck would they do sound in software |
| 18:47.51 | neenee | But my on-board sound is fine too now |
| 18:47.56 | Gnarfoz | no EAX(1-4) used |
| 18:48.13 | Ellipsis | ugh |
| 18:48.17 | Gnarfoz | ag`: because people without creative labs cards were missing out on the "awesome" acoustic effects |
| 18:48.18 | NeoTron | ag`: to simplify the sound system to use just one thing to allow for voice chat I'm sure |
| 18:48.18 | Ellipsis | is THAT why it sucks |
| 18:48.19 | Mudkips | not like I get to use my 5.1 during raids.... |
| 18:48.20 | Gnarfoz | :\ |
| 18:48.29 | Mudkips | can't gear commands on vent anyway with my music going unless it's headphones |
| 18:48.37 | Mudkips | hear* |
| 18:48.58 | Gnarfoz | sound would still be better with headphones + a good card instead of software stuff |
| 18:49.00 | NeoTron | and |
| 18:49.14 | NeoTron | you need to start vent BEFORE WoW or you sound all muffled on vent |
| 18:49.19 | Mudkips | yep |
| 18:49.25 | Ellipsis | kind of like with CS:S? |
| 18:49.26 | Ellipsis | >_> |
| 18:49.28 | Gnarfoz | ts > ventrilo |
| 18:49.28 | Gnarfoz | :D |
| 18:49.34 | Mudkips | CS:S does that? |
| 18:49.38 | Ellipsis | it does for some people, Mudkips |
| 18:49.42 | Gnarfoz | actually, they both are ancient and crappy :\ |
| 18:49.46 | NeoTron | actually ts is quite inferior to vent when it comes to sound quality |
| 18:49.49 | ag` | bottom line is |
| 18:49.50 | Mudkips | oh... it's been a long time since I scrimmed |
| 18:49.51 | ag` | if I raid |
| 18:49.57 | Ellipsis | vent is better in about a hundred ways |
| 18:49.59 | Mudkips | I just pug now for fun |
| 18:50.03 | ag` | my fps drops 15 fps more than usual because of the fucking sound system |
| 18:50.05 | Saroz | Solarian = pisss |
| 18:50.05 | CIA-22 | 03jerry * r49912 10Links/Links.lua: Links: fix Modified clicks handling. |
| 18:50.06 | Saroz | so sad |
| 18:50.10 | Gnarfoz | Ellipsis: yeah... no. :> |
| 18:50.14 | neenee | I_D, No worries, I like Vista. It just took some getting used to, as does all new OS. |
| 18:50.32 | Chompers | how bad is al'ar Saroz |
| 18:50.34 | I_D | did you get the "ultimate" version? :D |
| 18:50.45 | Ellipsis | I guess this is one of those times I should be glad that I can't hear the difference between "good" and "bad" sound quality |
| 18:50.50 | Mudkips | dude Chompers |
| 18:50.56 | Gnarfoz | probably :> |
| 18:50.58 | cncfanatics | anyone liking vista is a BIG idiot tbh |
| 18:51.00 | Mudkips | for a BT geared guild, it's pretty freakin hard |
| 18:51.09 | NeoTron | al'ar is fixed |
| 18:51.10 | Ellipsis | because I went from lowest sound channels to highest, restarted the game and it sounds the same to me |
| 18:51.19 | Mudkips | from what we tried last night |
| 18:51.30 | Gnarfoz | Ellipsis: sound channels do not influence quality |
| 18:51.34 | NeoTron | as a guild that made it to phase 3 in kael'thas and have 3 vashj kills |
| 18:51.38 | NeoTron | we had no chance |
| 18:51.39 | ag` | Ellipsis: if you have a lot of sounds playing at the same time |
| 18:51.45 | Ellipsis | I know what sound channels do |
| 18:51.45 | Mudkips | gnarfoz, what do they change then? |
| 18:51.53 | Gnarfoz | obviously not, Ellipsis |
| 18:51.59 | ag` | you won't really notice it unless you're in a raid |
| 18:51.59 | Ellipsis | but I tested in IF with sounds going on around me |
| 18:52.03 | I_D | vista => http://www.flickr.com/photo_zoom.gne?id=151250154&size=o |
| 18:52.05 | I_D | ^_^ |
| 18:52.10 | Gnarfoz | it's just the number of sound effects wow is allowed/capable to play at once |
| 18:52.11 | Ellipsis | and I literally couldn't hear the difference |
| 18:52.17 | Ellipsis | I know that Gnarfoz |
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| 18:52.23 | Gnarfoz | that's not sound quality... |
| 18:52.28 | Ellipsis | I know that Gnarfoz |
| 18:52.46 | Ellipsis | my point is that none of the new settings have any effect to my ears |
| 18:52.54 | Ellipsis | so I get to use whatever is best for performance |
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| 18:53.35 | Gnarfoz | too bad for you, then :< wow's sound usually had quite a good quality, haven't logged in on live yet |
| 18:53.39 | NW|Tattersail | anyone having problems with acecomm ? |
| 18:53.42 | Gnarfoz | I hope it didn't get much worse |
| 18:53.53 | cncfanatics | NW|Tattersail, update it |
| 18:53.56 | NW|Tattersail | I did |
| 18:53.59 | NW|Tattersail | just now |
| 18:54.10 | Ellipsis | Gnarfoz: I have a $20 USB headset with a broken left channel - I couldn't care less about the game's sound quality :P |
| 18:54.20 | Gnarfoz | err right |
| 18:54.38 | Ellipsis | as long as I can hear if something attacks me while I'm alt-tabbed, that's good enough for me |
| 18:55.19 | Mudkips | full ear headsets are the way to go |
| 18:55.27 | Mudkips | having glasses hurts my ears if they rest on them |
| 18:55.57 | Gnarfoz | good thing I don't need my glasses for exactly the distance to my monitor ;D |
| 18:55.59 | Ellipsis | that's part of the reason I switched to contacts >_> |
| 18:56.03 | Gnarfoz | otherwise, I'd be in the same boat ^^ |
| 18:56.28 | Mudkips | contacts freak me out |
| 18:56.41 | Mudkips | I dont like sticking strange things in my eye |
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| 18:57.06 | Ellipsis | heh |
| 18:57.09 | Ellipsis | you get used to it |
| 18:57.42 | Hjalte | My friends PallyPower somehow ended up outside of his screen - anyone knows how to reset the position? He has tried deleting his saved variables. |
| 18:58.03 | cncfanatics | use SetPoint on the frame ? |
| 18:58.15 | cncfanatics | u cld find out the frame name easely by looking at the code anyway |
| 18:58.21 | Ellipsis | sigh |
| 18:58.37 | Ellipsis | I really wish I knew why random item tooltips keep popping up when I go to the mailbox |
| 18:58.42 | cncfanatics | oh god, I have a problem, anyone good with coordinates ? |
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| 18:59.13 | Mecdemort | Funkeh`: you changed the zone check to hard coded so i dont see how it would ever work |
| 18:59.57 | CIA-22 | 03ackis * r49913 10AckisRecipeList/ (AckisRecipeList.lua AckisRecipeList.toc AckisRecipeList.xml): |
| 18:59.57 | CIA-22 | AckisRecipeList: |
| 18:59.57 | CIA-22 | - Initial work on GUI started |
| 18:59.57 | CIA-22 | - Modified TOC |
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| 19:00.32 | I_D | Ellipsis: I have the exact same thing, but only with Baggins |
| 19:00.50 | Ellipsis | I use Baggins too, maybe that's it |
| 19:00.55 | I_D | I've disabled Baggins for now, no fucking way I'm deleting my settings |
| 19:00.55 | Stanzilla2 | nevcairiel: http://ace.pastey.net/74455 |
| 19:01.32 | I_D | Ellipsis: try this => open ALL your bags at the same time, 2 or 3 times without doing anything else |
| 19:01.39 | cncfanatics | nevcairiel, cld u help me a sec maybe ? think u might have the same probs as me |
| 19:01.39 | I_D | random tooltips should pop up too |
| 19:01.50 | buu | Oh curse. Why must you taunt me. |
| 19:01.51 | I_D | well they shouldn't ofc, but they do :s |
| 19:02.02 | Ellipsis | yeah |
| 19:02.10 | Ellipsis | tried mailbox without Baggins and no weird tooltips |
| 19:02.40 | I_D | told ya |
| 19:03.13 | I_D | I've even tried putting an old version of baggins over it, same problem |
| 19:03.38 | Ellipsis | I see what it is |
| 19:03.53 | Stanzilla2 | ~lart nevcairiel |
| 19:03.53 | purl | cuts nevcairiel into thin stripes |
| 19:03.54 | Ellipsis | if there is a tooltip on your screen when your bags open, you get random tooltips |
| 19:04.14 | Ellipsis | the mailbox has a tooltip, characters have a tooltip, even action bars work XD |
| 19:04.17 | cncfanatics | Fisker- , blizz is damn anoying sometimes |
| 19:04.37 | I_D | no shit, why they always have to fuck with the mods is beyond me |
| 19:04.51 | cncfanatics | I_D, it ain't beyond me |
| 19:04.51 | cncfanatics | they make stuff better |
| 19:04.57 | cncfanatics | but its hell anoying that seemingly small changes lead to extra code |
| 19:05.00 | Ellipsis | it's cool to open bags while mousing over my Soulstone macro and see an Unstable Flask of the Sorcerer being compared to two trinkets o.o |
| 19:05.08 | cncfanatics | (like this one, frames are autoanchored to their closest anchor when dragging) |
| 19:05.23 | Ellipsis | cncfanatics, that can't be all frames |
| 19:05.25 | Ellipsis | is it? |
| 19:05.32 | Ellipsis | I thought it was just their frames |
| 19:05.49 | Fisker- | i dislike you nevcairiel |
| 19:05.55 | cncfanatics | Ellipsis, it can |
| 19:06.01 | cncfanatics | they changed StopMovingOrSizing |
| 19:06.01 | Ellipsis | Fisker-, you're not very happy with people today, are you? |
| 19:06.06 | Ellipsis | cncfanatics: wow, dumb |
| 19:06.11 | cncfanatics | instead of setting relative to its old anchor, it sets relative to the closest anchor |
| 19:06.14 | cncfanatics | so each time I drag something |
| 19:06.16 | cncfanatics | I got to compute |
| 19:06.17 | CIA-22 | 03ulic 07ulic * r49914 10ClosetGnome/ClosetGnome/ClosetGnome.lua: ClosetGnome: bug fix from rabbit |
| 19:06.18 | cncfanatics | back to TOPLEFT |
| 19:06.19 | Ellipsis | ~stab Blizzard |
| 19:06.20 | purl | ACTION runs at Blizzard with an origami Swiss Army knife, and inflicts a nasty paper cut. |
| 19:06.31 | cncfanatics | I NEED to have all my frames anchored to the same place, else i'm just fucked |
| 19:06.37 | Ellipsis | oh well, at least I have workaround code for that already |
| 19:06.45 | cncfanatics | well, I also do |
| 19:06.49 | cncfanatics | except when a frame is anchored to the center |
| 19:06.56 | cncfanatics | then its fucking irritating to compute its position |
| 19:07.16 | Ellipsis | I was using it for reanchoring the chat frames since dragging them from one side to the other anchors them to the other side |
| 19:07.28 | cncfanatics | does ur code compute center correctly ? |
| 19:07.34 | cncfanatics | they're all basic & easy except for center |
| 19:07.44 | Fisker- | nevcairiel how do i alt'ed spell? |
| 19:07.53 | neenee | Lovely. I help a low-level with an elite quest, there's a chest, I suggest we roll, then ask her to please roll, she just waits until the combat is done and loots. I wish her a nice evening and leave the group, then hearth, then quit the game, and now I'll do some dishes. |
| 19:08.00 | Ellipsis | cncfanatics, it doesn't have to |
| 19:08.03 | [AoC]Camci | is there coming an update to onebank? |
| 19:08.06 | CIA-22 | 03jerry * r49915 10Links/Links.lua: Links: bugfix |
| 19:08.12 | Ellipsis | I just anchor to TOP/BOTTOM |
| 19:08.19 | [AoC]Camci | gives me errors and i cant move items frmo my bank ^^ |
| 19:08.20 | Ellipsis | the X values aren't changed |
| 19:10.02 | cncfanatics | Ellipsis, wldnt that change the frame's position ? |
| 19:10.04 | Ellipsis | I_D there is already a Skinner skin for RockConfig if that's what you mean |
| 19:10.10 | Ellipsis | cncfanatics: nope, haven't had that happen |
| 19:10.16 | I_D | there is? zOMG why wasn't I informed! |
| 19:10.17 | I_D | :D |
| 19:10.21 | cncfanatics | I need to frame to stay at the exact same position but be anchored to TOPLET instead of what it currently is |
| 19:10.27 | cncfanatics | lets see |
| 19:11.00 | Ellipsis | cncfanatics: I understand what you're going for there, but my situation is slightly different and I think that simplified the problem a bit |
| 19:11.19 | cncfanatics | Ellipsis, ur lucky |
| 19:11.23 | cncfanatics | I got the code working |
| 19:11.27 | cncfanatics | but well, not with the center :/ |
| 19:11.37 | FRUCHT | is there any workaround for the vbagnon tooltip bug until a new version is released? |
| 19:11.37 | cncfanatics | the center is a pain |
| 19:11.43 | cncfanatics | anyone tell me how to compute it correctly ? |
| 19:11.52 | CIA-22 | 03nevcairiel * r49916 10Bartender3/ActionBarStates.lua: Bartender3: possible bugfix |
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| 19:12.15 | Ellipsis | cncfanatics: this is what I did |
| 19:12.16 | Ellipsis | frame:ClearAllPoints(); |
| 19:12.16 | Ellipsis | frame:SetPoint("BOTTOMLEFT", frame:GetLeft(), frame:GetBottom()); |
| 19:12.24 | Stanzilla2 | nevcairiel: thx <3 |
| 19:12.39 | neenee | Has anyone here played HL2:Episode One? |
| 19:12.45 | cncfanatics | http://pastey.net/74456 is my current code |
| 19:12.50 | Pkekyo | neenee: yes I have |
| 19:12.55 | cncfanatics | Ellipsis, I LOVE YOU |
| 19:12.57 | Mudkips | hehe I got carded for that in best buy |
| 19:13.02 | Mudkips | when I was buying my mx518 |
| 19:13.04 | I_D | neenee: yes I have |
| 19:13.07 | cncfanatics | I totaly forgot GetLeft & GetBottom can return stuff regardless of anchor |
| 19:13.08 | cncfanatics | I LOVE YOU |
| 19:13.10 | Ellipsis | cncfanatics, uh...thanks o.o |
| 19:13.15 | Mecdemort | Funkeh`: I know you didnt even test it, because you'd have realized it didnt work the second you talked to the boss and no mobs appeared. |
| 19:13.54 | neenee | Pkekyo, for some reason I am stuck after the train crash. I have two screaming humanoids in there and the girl tells me to shoot one of them with my gravity gun. However, regardless of how much I shoot it, in the head, in the feet, anywhere, he does not shut up and she keeps cowering. |
| 19:14.04 | Funkeh` | No I didn't |
| 19:14.24 | cncfanatics | Ellipsis, u can't realize how much time u just spared me |
| 19:14.25 | cncfanatics | seriously |
| 19:14.28 | Ellipsis | lol |
| 19:14.33 | Pkekyo | neenee: you have to shoot that metal thing he's strapped into, so it bounces away from Alyx so she can get away from it (she's stuck between it and the wall) |
| 19:14.48 | neenee | Ah okay. Let me try that again. |
| 19:14.48 | Mudkips | cncfanatics, what are you playing with? |
| 19:14.55 | neenee | She's no longer stuck though, she's free |
| 19:15.02 | Ellipsis | zomg spoilerz |
| 19:15.05 | neenee | But it's still screaming. But, I'll try again |
| 19:15.06 | Stanzilla2 | nevcairiel: would it be possible to change the strata of bartender to always be at "high" |
| 19:15.16 | neenee | I_D, they've been at it for days now though. |
| 19:15.21 | Ellipsis | we what now? |
| 19:15.23 | Pkekyo | neenee: let it scream, your job is to get out of the train only |
| 19:15.27 | neenee | ok. |
| 19:15.30 | Mudkips | ya spoilerz |
| 19:15.36 | I_D | Ellipsis: can you check ur pm's when u have time plix? :) |
| 19:15.36 | Ellipsis | this is like...the first time I've actually had a conversation with cncfanatics |
| 19:15.37 | Mudkips | noooooes |
| 19:15.48 | Ellipsis | I_D: I didn't get a PM from you |
| 19:15.50 | cncfanatics | Ellipsis, btw, u forgot to take scale into account in ur code |
| 19:15.59 | cncfanatics | might be a problem if ur chatframe ain't scaled to 1 |
| 19:15.59 | neenee | oh wait, I meant ckknight. |
| 19:16.01 | I_D | (not-related to "the thing that's been going on for days" :D) |
| 19:16.03 | neenee | Well, they both start with a c. |
| 19:16.06 | Ellipsis | cncfanatics: meh, I'm not releasing the addon, I don't care :P |
| 19:16.20 | cncfanatics | the day you're going to scale them you will :p |
| 19:16.23 | CIA-22 | 03tattersail * r49917 10IncomingHeals/ (Core.lua IncomingHeals.toc): |
| 19:16.23 | CIA-22 | IncomingHeals: |
| 19:16.23 | CIA-22 | - Update .toc to 2.2 |
| 19:16.31 | I_D | ah hang on, I'm using my P910i, and the bluetooth uplink ain't too great |
| 19:16.35 | Ellipsis | if I ever decide to scale my chat frames for some reason, I'll probably spend an hour wrestling with that code |
| 19:16.42 | Ellipsis | but I don't anticipate that anytime soon |
| 19:16.44 | Ellipsis | :) |
| 19:17.06 | CIA-22 | 03tattersail * r49918 10IncomingHealsLib/ (2 files in 2 dirs): |
| 19:17.06 | CIA-22 | IncomingHealsLib: |
| 19:17.06 | CIA-22 | - Update .toc to 2.2 |
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| 19:18.01 | Ellipsis | not exactly sure why one would scale their chat frames anyway, since you can set height/width and font size |
| 19:18.07 | ag` | ffs |
| 19:18.07 | neenee | Aaaah.. I just jumped out of the train and Alyx followed me :) |
| 19:18.10 | ag` | I can't raid anymore |
| 19:18.11 | neenee | I didn't have to do anything |
| 19:18.15 | Ellipsis | grats neenee :P |
| 19:18.24 | Mudkips | ag` too laggy? |
| 19:18.34 | ag` | I might as well just quit the game now, because I bet blizz won't bring back hardware accel for sound |
| 19:18.44 | Ellipsis | I_D: check your status window, you're probably trying to send PMs without identifying to NickServ |
| 19:18.50 | ag` | I get 3-5 fps on lurker, I usually get 35+ |
| 19:18.57 | JoshBorke | disable sound? |
| 19:18.58 | I_D | gah, totally forgot about that |
| 19:18.59 | Mudkips | lurker? holy shit |
| 19:19.10 | Mudkips | that's about my fps on gorefiend |
| 19:19.14 | Mudkips | >_< |
| 19:19.22 | Ellipsis | wow, I so misread that Mudkips |
| 19:19.28 | Ellipsis | I thought you said something about fps on your girlfriend |
| 19:19.35 | cncfanatics | lol |
| 19:19.39 | cncfanatics | ain't that typical ? :p |
| 19:19.43 | Mudkips | that makes no sense |
| 19:19.51 | Mudkips | goes right over my head |
| 19:20.28 | Kody | http://news.curse.com/details/3197/ Interview with Antiarc ;o |
| 19:20.44 | CIA-22 | 03ominous * r49919 10Tattle/ (38 files in 38 dirs): Tattle: daily run of the dataminer |
| 19:20.45 | Ellipsis | interesting |
| 19:20.55 | ennuilg | sylvanaar: Quick thought - it is worth adding a(n option for a) column in WoW that shows the .toc version of each addon? |
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| 19:21.39 | I_D | !help |
| 19:21.44 | storm | hiho |
| 19:21.58 | storm | short question: is there no anonymous account for read-only SVN access? |
| 19:22.34 | JoshBorke | storm: there is read-only svn access |
| 19:22.38 | JoshBorke | and it's anonymous |
| 19:22.47 | clad|away | Grum are you using r87? |
| 19:22.49 | Nickenyfiken | Antiarc: i beg you please make sanity work, or else i will get insane :-( |
| 19:23.12 | CIA-22 | 03tattersail * r49920 10IncomingHealsLib/IncomingHealsLib-1.0/IncomingHealsLib-1.0.lua: |
| 19:23.12 | CIA-22 | IncomingHealsLib: |
| 19:23.12 | CIA-22 | - Removed "Slacker X need to update Ace" |
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| 19:23.54 | Ellipsis | o.O |
| 19:24.01 | Ellipsis | interesting commit |
| 19:24.06 | Undine | anything i can do about baggins taking an age to open each time? |
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| 19:24.32 | cncfanatics | Undine, recode ? |
| 19:24.32 | Funkeh` | Ellipsis: Was that your doing? |
| 19:24.38 | Ellipsis | Funkeh`: what? |
| 19:24.46 | cncfanatics | says tattersail commited it, so guess not |
| 19:24.46 | Nickname | oi sll |
| 19:24.48 | Funkeh` | Making people slack |
| 19:24.55 | Ellipsis | yeah I tend to have that effect |
| 19:25.25 | Funkeh` | tss |
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| 19:25.49 | Nickname | hey guys, soz to disturb but i have a small question regarding the tooltip in the new patch, ok i ask that here ? |
| 19:26.45 | Nimrah | apparantly not ;p |
| 19:26.50 | cncfanatics | Nimrah, sure it is |
| 19:26.51 | I_D | lemme guess |
| 19:26.54 | cncfanatics | don't expect instant answers though |
| 19:26.58 | I_D | you're getting random tooltip popups? |
| 19:27.04 | ZealotOnAStick | or necessarily useful ones. |
| 19:27.08 | cncfanatics | and yes, you can baggins has buggy tooltips appearing every time u open a bug |
| 19:27.15 | cncfanatics | bag* |
| 19:27.31 | Nimrah | nah, all is fine, except tooltip over items in my bags |
| 19:27.44 | Nimrah | tooltip on char pane for example worx normal (i use tinytip) |
| 19:27.48 | cncfanatics | I_D, ur new I think eh ? :p i'm moody, beware of me :p |
| 19:28.03 | I_D | I was BORN moody |
| 19:28.07 | I_D | or smth |
| 19:28.30 | Nimrah | new to this channel aye ;p not exact new to games/addons tho, normally can fix things myself ;) |
| 19:28.53 | Fisker- | ogm omg |
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| 19:29.44 | Nickenyfiken | nevcairiel: Can we have a option to not show key binding on buttons when there is no spell there. |
| 19:29.53 | charon | hmm rock config from cartographer is a bit counter-intuitive, it opens up and immediately hides behind the carto window. tooltip still says "show menu", too :) |
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| 19:30.32 | Stanzilla2 | nevcairiel: also when you hide keybindings, it shows "?" |
| 19:30.37 | cncfanatics | thats becuz cartographer forces itself on top of everything |
| 19:30.40 | nevcairiel | i know about the ? |
| 19:30.45 | nevcairiel | not sure where that comes from |
| 19:30.56 | nevcairiel | Nickenyfiken: i noticed that myself, will look into it |
| 19:30.59 | HarrisonF | anyone had any problems with Antagonist not saving your settings properly? ie. you logout and back in and things are all messed up? |
| 19:31.09 | Nickenyfiken | nevcairiel: ok :-) |
| 19:31.59 | Nickenyfiken | Why is everyone complaining about the Cartographer config menu disappearing behind the map. It never has for me. :-P |
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| 19:34.31 | Ellipsis | yeah I don't have that problem (just checked) |
| 19:35.03 | Ellipsis | I guess if you have cartographer right in the middle of your screen... |
| 19:35.22 | vhaarr | ulic: what's your CG branch do? |
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| 19:36.01 | ulic | one thing, which isn't that big a deal, is it can pull stuff out of the bank if it's open |
| 19:36.41 | Fisker- | so mr. nevcairiel |
| 19:36.46 | Fisker- | shouldn't selfcasting be working? |
| 19:36.49 | Gnarfoz | well, at least software rendered sound means I can finally use EAX effects and Advanced EQ on my music while WoW is running |
| 19:36.57 | ulic | the biggest feature and the one I'd like you (or I) to merge in, is the ability for it to flag items yellow that aren't found in inv when you edit them, and not overwrite those slots. |
| 19:37.07 | ulic | unless you click the slot to green of course. |
| 19:37.40 | cncfanatics | perfecto, fixed an alignment bug |
| 19:37.46 | ulic | make sense? |
| 19:38.01 | vhaarr | ulic: explain that last thing again, in other words |
| 19:38.25 | JoshBorke | in other words |
| 19:38.26 | JoshBorke | i love you |
| 19:38.33 | JoshBorke | in other words |
| 19:38.35 | JoshBorke | please be true |
| 19:38.41 | ulic | you edit an outfit, items are missing, when you save the set, don't save the currently equipped items, but save the missing items |
| 19:38.51 | vhaarr | JoshBorke: you going george carlin on my ass or what? |
| 19:38.55 | JoshBorke | :-D |
| 19:38.57 | ulic | it allows you to update items in a set without having to have all the items in your inventory |
| 19:39.18 | vhaarr | ulic: seems to make sense but confuses me at the same time |
| 19:39.28 | Ellipsis | it sounds good to me, where do I sign up? |
| 19:39.44 | ulic | like often I'll get a new piece of resist gear, so I want to add it to my set, but the rest of my set is in the bank. |
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| 19:40.12 | vhaarr | ulic: can you show me a diff for your changes? |
| 19:40.21 | ulic | with the live CG it will just save whatever is currently equipped in the slots. This enable CG to remember what SHOULD be there and not overwrite them |
| 19:40.22 | Ellipsis | ulic, I'll give you a thousand internets if you make it possible to add an item to a set by linking it rather than having to actually equip it at some point |
| 19:40.37 | Ellipsis | because that's useful in like a billion ways |
| 19:40.41 | yssaril | can somone tell me what a mixin is? |
| 19:41.01 | ulic | vhaarr: there should be a diff with just that change in my branches, lemme see if I can get you a fish link to it. |
| 19:42.47 | omega_ | yssaril: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mixin |
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| 19:43.19 | ulic | vhaarr: http://tinyurl.com/2vklym |
| 19:44.18 | ulic | I've been running for a while now will no problems. I posted on the forum thread, but nobody seemed to respond. |
| 19:45.03 | ulic | if you're familiar with Outfitter, it's basically what outfitter did when it could find an item, it would flag it with a ? instead of only enabled or disabled, for the slot. |
| 19:45.13 | MoonWitch | oops |
| 19:45.18 | MoonWitch | lol wrong damn button |
| 19:45.32 | Ellipsis | you'll get the hang of it eventually :P |
| 19:45.48 | MoonWitch | overkill on information right now |
| 19:46.01 | MoonWitch | and that mozart one was the worst song ever to hit that button on too |
| 19:46.06 | Ellipsis | lol |
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| 19:46.11 | harldephin | grml.. my realm seems to crash every few minutes |
| 19:46.15 | masanbol | ~flee |
| 19:46.15 | purl | ACTION runs away screaming |
| 19:46.27 | masanbol | ~Xuerian |
| 19:46.28 | purl | ACTION lets out a Scrat-like scream and stabs something at random. |
| 19:46.35 | harldephin | ~cuddle |
| 19:46.36 | MoonWitch | ~MoonWitch |
| 19:46.37 | purl | hmm... moonwitch is a weird psycho, who will gnaw eyes out for breakfast. |
| 19:46.39 | Ellipsis | ~emo |
| 19:46.39 | purl | /wrists |
| 19:46.43 | masanbol | lol |
| 19:46.50 | harldephin | -.- |
| 19:46.52 | MoonWitch | I love the /wrists one |
| 19:46.56 | MoonWitch | ~wrists |
| 19:46.57 | purl | Remember, emo kids, it's down the street, not across the road! http://www.saunalahti.fi/maut0n/makeitcount.jpg |
| 19:47.02 | markm | Archud needs a couple fixes |
| 19:47.06 | MoonWitch | LOLOLOLOLOLOL |
| 19:47.27 | harldephin | not really funny |
| 19:47.40 | masanbol | ~dek |
| 19:47.41 | purl | [dek] DA MAN! |
| 19:47.44 | Mudkips | suicide is srs business |
| 19:47.56 | MoonWitch | well it is funny to me, how a bot says that |
| 19:48.23 | MoonWitch | and suicide is well .. I've tried and failed, so there. |
| 19:48.36 | Ellipsis | high five MoonWitch :P |
| 19:49.08 | Gnarfoz | hmm |
| 19:49.08 | MoonWitch | uhm Ellipsis how should I interpret that (I analyze shrinks for a hobby) |
| 19:49.18 | Jaxon | Has anyone used a Darkrune for the even since 2.2 hit? |
| 19:49.30 | Jaxon | s/even/event/ |
| 19:49.32 | ag` | my fps is fixed |
| 19:49.36 | ag` | wow.exe -nosound |
| 19:49.39 | ag` | grats blizz |
| 19:49.40 | Ellipsis | lol |
| 19:49.41 | Gnarfoz | ag`: great solution, lol |
| 19:49.42 | Gnarfoz | :D |
| 19:49.45 | Ellipsis | ilu ag` |
| 19:49.46 | ag` | you detroyed the fucking sound |
| 19:49.58 | MoonWitch | so I am not the only one who did that then |
| 19:50.01 | Pkekyo | "Welcome to The Home for those who gave a shit up until wednesday morning..." |
| 19:50.05 | MoonWitch | lol .. damn flame things drove me mad |
| 19:50.10 | nevcairiel | sounds working fine for me |
| 19:50.13 | Mudkips | ag` that stops all sound? |
| 19:50.15 | ag` | well disabling sound check box ingame doesn't fix the problem |
| 19:50.21 | ag` | you still get fps problem |
| 19:50.23 | Mudkips | I see |
| 19:50.28 | ag` | you need to do wow.exe -nosound |
| 19:50.34 | Pkekyo | ~seen art3mis |
| 19:50.36 | purl | art3mis is currently on #wowi-lounge. Has said a total of 32 messages. Is idling for 1h 47m 11s, last said: 'HOLY MACKEREL!'. |
| 19:50.36 | masanbol | ~damn right |
| 19:50.37 | purl | ACTION damns right to the bowels of bloody hell forever. |
| 19:50.42 | Gnarfoz | ~damnright |
| 19:50.50 | Gnarfoz | :\ |
| 19:50.53 | masanbol | lol |
| 19:50.53 | Fisker- | stop whining ag` |
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| 19:51.03 | Gnarfoz | yeah, upgrade! |
| 19:51.07 | Ellipsis | hey, he's allowed to whine if he provides a fix for us |
| 19:51.15 | Fisker- | but interesting ag` |
| 19:51.16 | Gnarfoz | no, actually I'd like my sound h/w accellerated :< |
| 19:51.25 | vhaarr | ulic: alright let me have a look |
| 19:51.39 | Gnarfoz | and I'd like my Bartender3 buttons scaled the way they were yesterday :< |
| 19:51.54 | Gnarfoz | but nevcairiel is already busting his brains, I gather ^^ |
| 19:52.11 | ulic | please do, lemme know what you think. I think it's pretty simple, but very handy feature. |
| 19:52.13 | nevcairiel | nothing about scale should've changed |
| 19:52.15 | Hjalte | gnarfoz, tried /console uiscale 0.9 ? |
| 19:52.35 | Gnarfoz | I wasn't even using UI scale before today : |
| 19:52.36 | Gnarfoz | < |
| 19:53.02 | Gnarfoz | enabling it was the quick way to fix almost all positioning issues |
| 19:53.06 | ag` | Fisker-: interesting? |
| 19:53.21 | Hjalte | Gnarfoz: neither was i |
| 19:53.47 | neenee | nite. |
| 19:53.52 | Gnarfoz | yeah, I set the slider to 0.89999a8982379879432867 somnething. |
| 19:54.05 | Gnarfoz | (just edited the config.wtf by hand now ^^) |
| 19:54.12 | Ellipsis | wow, I want letters in my floats |
| 19:54.13 | Ellipsis | that's hax :P |
| 19:54.34 | aestil | damnit, i have raid tonight, and i haven't rebuilt eePanels ellipsis. what have you been doing instead of fixing my eepanels? |
| 19:54.36 | MoonWitch | lol |
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| 19:54.59 | Ellipsis | aestil: slacking :D |
| 19:55.04 | aestil | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JC2gIPnUCgw |
| 19:55.09 | Ellipsis | you never sent me your old SVs |
| 19:55.11 | Antiarc | In 2.3 Blind will no longer require a reagent. It will also be changed to a physical attack, will share the same diminish category as Cyclone, and diminish in PvE as well as PvP. |
| 19:55.17 | Ellipsis | otherwise I would have fixed 'em up |
| 19:55.24 | Antiarc | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:55.29 | CIA-22 | 03nevcairiel * r49921 10Bartender3/ (ActionBarStates.lua Button.lua): |
| 19:55.29 | CIA-22 | Bartender3: |
| 19:55.29 | CIA-22 | - fixed a bug with stray ? appearing when not using hotkey mode for oor indicator |
| 19:55.29 | CIA-22 | - fixed a bug that made hotkeys on empty buttons show |
| 19:55.29 | CIA-22 | - known bug: in hotkey mode, the indicator is a ? and not the known icon .. are the buttons incapable of showing UTF8 now? |
| 19:55.34 | Kody | nice |
| 19:55.55 | ulic | Antiarc: wonder if that mean that Moroes blind can't be cleared |
| 19:56.56 | Gnarfoz | that's a different spell anyway, I'd guess |
| 19:57.18 | aestil | ellipsis, my SV's are broken |
| 19:57.20 | harldephin | Cartographer_Waypoints isn't working, is it? |
| 19:57.24 | Ellipsis | aestil: that's why I want to fix them |
| 19:57.25 | Ellipsis | :P |
| 19:57.28 | aestil | and also, you have to run 1920x1200 to set it up. |
| 19:57.35 | Ellipsis | I can |
| 19:57.44 | aestil | i will zip it all up right now and send to you. |
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| 19:57.51 | aestil | i have to drive to palmdale to do an appraisal right. |
| 19:57.54 | aestil | now. |
| 19:57.59 | Fisker- | nevcairiel i threaten you with slavery and death |
| 19:57.59 | Ellipsis | kk, I'll try and figure it out then |
| 19:58.01 | kaiden | Have there been any modifications that would cause the way infinibar sets it's keybindings to break? |
| 19:58.06 | Mudkips | lol palmdale |
| 19:58.10 | nevcairiel | Fisker-: ? |
| 19:58.10 | cncfanatics | nevcairiel, still around ? blizzard changed some dragging stuff, might cause weird bugs with dragging (at least it did for me) |
| 19:58.18 | cncfanatics | (for me = for my addon) |
| 19:58.25 | cncfanatics | dunno if it also did for BT but u shld check |
| 19:58.30 | aestil | you want my addon directory too? |
| 19:58.31 | kaiden | whenever you try to set a keybinding in infinibar now with a modifier key it breaks ie.. if you hit alt + d it makes the keybinding alt-lalt |
| 19:58.32 | Fisker- | selfcasting doesn't work nevcairiel :O |
| 19:58.43 | nevcairiel | Fisker-: modifier based? |
| 19:58.46 | aestil | or just WTF folders? |
| 19:58.47 | Fisker- | yarr |
| 19:58.56 | nevcairiel | works for me |
| 19:58.57 | Ellipsis | aestil, just the SVs |
| 19:59.18 | I_D | thanks for the help guys, I gotta run, might hop in on the bnc later o/ |
| 19:59.24 | aestil | from the accountname folder? or from the account name/charactername/ folder |
| 19:59.31 | Fisker- | noes |
| 19:59.34 | Ellipsis | I won't be able to check that everything aligns the same way as yours, but hopefully I should get it back to where you were before you lost that panel |
| 19:59.41 | Ellipsis | accountname |
| 19:59.53 | aestil | i don't think so. my eePanels2 SV is 1kb |
| 19:59.58 | aestil | i don't know what happened. |
| 20:00.10 | Ellipsis | o.o |
| 20:00.11 | aestil | it should be like 40kb or so with the 40 or so eePanels i create. |
| 20:00.15 | aestil | i think i'm borked. |
| 20:00.18 | aestil | i'll just fix it later. |
| 20:00.19 | Ellipsis | did you restore it from a .bak or something? |
| 20:00.23 | aestil | nope. |
| 20:00.30 | aestil | dunno what happened. |
| 20:00.33 | Ellipsis | weird |
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| 20:00.42 | Fisker- | still only normal spells that work for me nevcairiel :( |
| 20:00.43 | Ellipsis | maybe it completely imploded after losing the first panel? >_> |
| 20:00.53 | aestil | yes. i think so. |
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| 20:01.02 | Ellipsis | strange |
| 20:01.03 | nevcairiel | Fisker-: normal spells? |
| 20:01.26 | MoonWitch | lol |
| 20:01.38 | Fisker- | yeah spells not macroed |
| 20:01.40 | kaiden | aestil, wow, 40 eePanels? why? |
| 20:01.49 | Mudkips | thats gigantor |
| 20:01.51 | Mecdemort | has blue made any posts about the lack of the advertised voice chat? |
| 20:01.58 | buu | Yay geist is working again! |
| 20:01.59 | buu | I hope. |
| 20:02.02 | nevcairiel | Fisker-: i had the same issue, macro spells not working for selfcast, i think its a blizzy issue |
| 20:02.19 | Fisker- | buuh |
| 20:02.23 | Fisker- | you said it was fixored ;( |
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| 20:03.00 | nevcairiel | mm i think i know whats causing the ? on my buttons |
| 20:03.03 | dodga | nevcairiel: I see you already committed a fix for showing hotkeys on empty buttons and that ? thingie. But I got an issue with the reputation bar, namely it keeps reappearing after I zone even though I have it disabled :D |
| 20:03.08 | nevcairiel | clearfont font not supporting the char |
| 20:03.22 | aestil | kaiden, 4 chat panes, 2 different action bar locations, minimap, omen, grid, sws, pitbull frames. |
| 20:03.32 | aestil | it adds up when you are doing them in triplicate. |
| 20:03.40 | Kirkburn | :( |
| 20:03.54 | Kirkburn | nevcairiel, what char? |
| 20:04.00 | nevcairiel | RANGE_INDICATOR |
| 20:04.03 | kaiden | aestil, show me a picture, i may be able to cut down your memory usage via not using so many panels |
| 20:04.05 | nevcairiel | that bull |
| 20:04.08 | aestil | kaiden, this is what got killed last night. http://img244.imageshack.us/img244/3034/wowscrnshot092507184501yx8.jpg |
| 20:04.16 | nevcairiel | its a global var |
| 20:04.27 | aestil | memory useage? the difference is a handful of kb's. |
| 20:04.48 | Fisker- | you need to extort slouken mr. nevcairiel |
| 20:04.49 | Fisker- | DO IT |
| 20:04.52 | kaiden | aestil, sorry.. was just trying to help .. but never mind ;) |
| 20:05.02 | Ellipsis | aestil, are you not using a border image? |
| 20:05.19 | Ellipsis | because everything but the FuBar can be simplified by that >_> |
| 20:05.20 | aestil | ellipsis, i dunno how to use textures. r confused. |
| 20:05.46 | Ellipsis | well, I'll send you over a solid border texture when you get back to work on the panels again |
| 20:05.50 | aestil | http://img473.imageshack.us/my.php?image=wowscrnshot090207201838qc7.jpg |
| 20:05.56 | aestil | thats the old one. |
| 20:05.59 | Ellipsis | it will make your life happier |
| 20:06.03 | aestil | which border color you guys like better. |
| 20:06.04 | Higdur | is there any HUD mod that have a skin similar to DHUD? |
| 20:06.14 | aestil | ellipsis, i can still do resizing with the textures? |
| 20:06.19 | Ellipsis | yeah |
| 20:06.36 | MoonWitch | I need to get that done too.. borders |
| 20:06.38 | Ellipsis | imagine having those colored borders without having to do anything to make them work :P |
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| 20:06.53 | charon | Antiarc: ping |
| 20:07.30 | Antiarc | pong |
| 20:07.32 | nevcairiel | Kirkburn: can you confirm my theory ? :) |
| 20:07.34 | aestil | yes, that would be nice. |
| 20:07.42 | aestil | which color is better though, new or old? |
| 20:07.54 | Antiarc | http://wow.curse.com/articles/details/3197/ |
| 20:07.55 | Antiarc | <_< |
| 20:08.03 | Ellipsis | I like the old one, but I'm a big fan of blue |
| 20:08.10 | aestil | me too. |
| 20:08.11 | Ellipsis | so others may not agree :P |
| 20:08.13 | charon | Antiarc: for some reason my Omen (normal display) bars show mouseover tooltips even if i'm out of combat and none of them actually show anything |
| 20:08.14 | aestil | i think ima go back to the old one. |
| 20:08.26 | aestil | the new one was an attempt to make it stand out more, but i disliked it in the end. |
| 20:08.32 | charon | also, am i supposed to track this on jira? i can't find an omen category |
| 20:08.34 | aestil | [easy to fix if everythign else didn't break] |
| 20:08.45 | Antiarc | charon: Can you get me a screenshot? |
| 20:09.00 | aestil | charon, he can fix that once my pullout bar has configuration options ;) |
| 20:09.12 | Ellipsis | ok, new thing to add to the "stupid guild ranks" list...any rank with ascii smilies in it |
| 20:09.13 | Ellipsis | >_> |
| 20:09.15 | charon | Antiarc: sure |
| 20:09.29 | charon | aestil: i have a patch for that if you want to try it |
| 20:09.36 | aestil | *boggle* |
| 20:09.39 | charon | aestil: /msg me with an email address |
| 20:09.39 | LoSti|Afk | question, anyone the same prob, when u drag a new ability into bartender the "pic" of the ability is invis? |
| 20:09.43 | Higdur | aestil: any reason for you having same rank sw:p, sw:d and mb on two bars? :) |
| 20:09.51 | aestil | tim dot glaser at gmail dot com |
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| 20:10.10 | aestil | higdur yeah, previously that day i was holy/disc pvp |
| 20:10.16 | Higdur | ah |
| 20:10.20 | kaiden | nevcairiel: Bartender3\Options.lua:644: bad argument #1 to 'format' (string expected, got nil) |
| 20:10.33 | Higdur | cba to fix bars I guess ;) |
| 20:10.44 | Speeddymon | anyone here use EnhancedFlightMap? it's non-ace but I want to fix it |
| 20:10.53 | LoSti|Afk | thx ;) |
| 20:10.54 | nevcairiel | kaiden: traceback? |
| 20:11.05 | kaiden | i'm sorry? |
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| 20:11.12 | nevcairiel | full error report |
| 20:11.13 | Silviu- | Hmm for u Cartographer is bugged in instances ? |
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| 20:11.52 | Fisker- | so nevcairiel have you gotten into extortion? |
| 20:11.53 | kaiden | nevcairiel, when using niagara to disable a bar (clicking enable checkbox) that pops up |
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| 20:13.10 | kaiden | nevcairiel, also happens just from the fubar plugin |
| 20:13.17 | charon | aestil, Antiarc: my webmailer just went haywire, might take a while. sorry. |
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| 20:14.02 | Antiarc | No worries. |
| 20:14.22 | Antiarc | Also, LAWLS. The rogue mobility buff is a change to the...wait for it...41-pointer in the sub tree. |
| 20:14.25 | Antiarc | -___________- |
| 20:14.40 | Ellipsis | grats! |
| 20:14.51 | Antiarc | Except that nobody actually specs sub. |
| 20:15.07 | Antiarc | "In addition, after use of Shadowstep threat caused by the next Ambush, Garrote or Backstab will be reduced by 50%." |
| 20:15.18 | Antiarc | Because there are so many raiding subtlety rogues :V |
| 20:15.19 | CIA-22 | 03nevcairiel * r49922 10Bartender3/ (Bartender3.lua Button.lua): Bartender3: fixed a bug with disabling bars, thanks kaiden |
| 20:15.35 | Mudkips | Antiarc, i lol'd |
| 20:15.43 | Ellipsis | l2reroll caster |
| 20:15.51 | Mudkips | Agreed |
| 20:15.54 | Mudkips | blizz hates melee |
| 20:16.12 | Chompers | Antiarc: i saw no mention of checking for twin emps in nagrand in your intervew |
| 20:16.15 | Chompers | that makes me sad :< |
| 20:16.30 | Ellipsis | twin emps in nagrand? wtf? |
| 20:16.33 | Ellipsis | o.O |
| 20:16.47 | QuantumDelta | lol |
| 20:17.19 | Mudkips | I wonder if that huge gronn in nagrand can be kited to shatt |
| 20:17.29 | Kirkburn | nevcairiel, no idea |
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| 20:18.06 | Gnarfoz | mhhh |
| 20:18.18 | cncfanatics | nevcairiel, does bt support remapping based on targets ? |
| 20:18.24 | cncfanatics | (no target, friendly target, hostile target) |
| 20:18.25 | Gnarfoz | was it GetMouseFocus() for the name of the frame under the cursor? |
| 20:18.35 | nevcairiel | cncfanatics: nop |
| 20:18.40 | cncfanatics | Gnarfoz: GetMouseFocus():GetName(); |
| 20:18.44 | cncfanatics | nevcairiel; why not ? |
| 20:18.46 | Gnarfoz | ah. |
| 20:18.52 | Hjalte | cncfanatics and nevcairiel, is that even possible now, in combat? |
| 20:18.56 | nevcairiel | Kirkburn: it used to work on PTR, where i didnt have ClearFont installed |
| 20:19.01 | cncfanatics | Hjalte, FB2 does it |
| 20:19.01 | nevcairiel | so *shrug* |
| 20:19.08 | Fisker- | attack, destroy die |
| 20:19.12 | Fisker- | these are commands nevcairiel |
| 20:19.16 | Antiarc | "In patch 2.3 frost shock will no longer be subject to diminishing returns." |
| 20:19.20 | cncfanatics | Hjalte, if u mean remapping based on targets that is |
| 20:19.21 | Antiarc | fsljsfdlghgflnsd;la;a |
| 20:19.22 | QuantumDelta | mudkips; yes it can |
| 20:19.27 | Hjalte | cncfanatics: yeah |
| 20:19.29 | Ellipsis | thx4Blizzrad |
| 20:19.30 | Fisker- | oh and Antiarc |
| 20:19.33 | Fisker- | stop whining lulz! |
| 20:19.35 | cncfanatics | Hjalte, perfectly possible, quite easy even |
| 20:19.40 | Fisker- | rogues are op lol l2p krhtx |
| 20:19.42 | Fisker- | rofl |
| 20:19.44 | Fisker- | roflmao |
| 20:19.45 | Fisker- | etc. |
| 20:19.49 | Mudkips | I wish I had a hunter |
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| 20:19.56 | Ellipsis | "krhtx" |
| 20:19.58 | Hjalte | nevcairiel: would love to see it in bartender :) |
| 20:20.05 | Ellipsis | it's like you went for kthx, but ended up having a seizure on your keyboard instead |
| 20:20.34 | cncfanatics | Hjalte, use FB xD |
| 20:20.57 | Hjalte | cncfanatics: i'd like to have my buttons go with me on the different computers i use, for one. can FB2 do that? |
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| 20:21.14 | cncfanatics | Hjalte, copy ur saved vars ? |
| 20:21.29 | kaiden | nevcairiel, spells aren't appearing on bars when you put them on.. i believe the spell is going on but the icon isn't showing up |
| 20:21.32 | Hjalte | cncfanatics: too much work when bartender is working alright |
| 20:21.44 | Antiarc | we're putting the benefits of Improved Seal of the Crusader right into the base spell, and the talent will instead give the benefit of Sanctified Crusader. That of course means Sanctified Crusader needs something else, and it's being renamed Sanctified Seals, which will increase your change to critically hit will all spells and melee by 1/2/3% and reduces the chance your Seals can be dispelled by 33/66/100%. |
| 20:21.46 | Antiarc | o.0 |
| 20:22.07 | QuantumDelta | LOL |
| 20:22.13 | QuantumDelta | Hahaha |
| 20:22.13 | nevcairiel | kaiden: works for me .. just tried it .. |
| 20:22.14 | cncfanatics | Hjalte, how do u do that on BT then ? |
| 20:22.23 | CIA-22 | 03durcyn * r49923 10FuBar_tcgTradeskills/Core.lua: FuBar_tcgTradeskills: comment out Lockpicking since it doesn't exist in Babble-Tradeskill, and Pick Lock is protected anyway. |
| 20:22.25 | durcyn | Ellipsis: ^ |
| 20:22.34 | [AoC]Camci | at SimpleCombatLog, i wanna move the actual chat so its showed on the right side of the chat window, but cant remember how i did it last time... Does anyone know? |
| 20:22.38 | cncfanatics | undispellable seals ? thats nice |
| 20:22.39 | QuantumDelta | hmm |
| 20:22.41 | Ellipsis | durcyn, have my babies |
| 20:22.42 | Hjalte | cncfanatics: do what? |
| 20:22.42 | QuantumDelta | speaking for fubar |
| 20:22.44 | cncfanatics | pala's have been QQ'ing SO LONG for that |
| 20:22.48 | kaiden | nevcairiel, any ideas what could be causing mine to do that then? |
| 20:22.48 | QuantumDelta | mine's deactivated itself :< |
| 20:22.50 | cncfanatics | Hjalte, copy ur chars between diff comps |
| 20:22.51 | kaiden | i'll take a screenshot |
| 20:22.53 | QuantumDelta | or well |
| 20:22.57 | QuantumDelta | wont show on screen anyway -.- |
| 20:23.00 | Hjalte | cncfanatics: it's done on the server :) |
| 20:23.03 | MoonWitch | QQing? |
| 20:23.05 | cncfanatics | Hjalte, ah, the actions |
| 20:23.13 | ckknight | hey all |
| 20:23.16 | cncfanatics | yo ckknight |
| 20:23.18 | MoonWitch | hey ckknight |
| 20:23.23 | Ellipsis | morning ckknight |
| 20:23.38 | Mudkips | diaf ckknight |
| 20:23.52 | Mudkips | am i doin it rite? |
| 20:24.14 | nevcairiel | kaiden: running latest? |
| 20:24.15 | QuantumDelta | lol |
| 20:24.18 | kaiden | nevcairiel, http://ss.ohnoes.cc/Fostot_04.jpg check out the bar in the middle of the screen |
| 20:24.21 | CIA-22 | 03nevcairiel * r49924 10Bartender3/Button.lua: Bartender3: small tweak to button update code |
| 20:24.29 | kaiden | nevcairiel, yup, just installed in not 20 minutes ago |
| 20:24.44 | Fisker- | rofl Antiarc |
| 20:24.44 | cncfanatics | QuantumDelta, still a paladin ? :p |
| 20:24.45 | Fisker- | a 100% |
| 20:24.49 | kaiden | as you can see by the bar in the middle of the screen the buttons are visible as if something is on them, but no icons on them |
| 20:24.49 | Fisker- | i like paladins so much now |
| 20:24.55 | QuantumDelta | always cncfanatics ;) |
| 20:24.56 | Fisker- | stupid op rogues etc.! |
| 20:24.57 | Antiarc | Blind becoming a physical attack is DAMNED hot. |
| 20:25.02 | cncfanatics | QuantumDelta, I rerolled rogue :p |
| 20:25.05 | Antiarc | And rogues are not OP :( |
| 20:25.11 | Fisker- | obviously they are! |
| 20:25.12 | QuantumDelta | BETRAYER OF THE LIGHT!11one |
| 20:25.21 | Fisker- | It was ok until i read it was going to be melee based |
| 20:25.25 | nevcairiel | kaiden: do you use some weird mod like aspectbar or something? |
| 20:25.27 | Hjalte | kaiden, is that the default font? |
| 20:25.30 | Fisker- | but they said it was going to be a ranged one as well afterwards |
| 20:25.32 | Fisker- | so that was a bit ok |
| 20:25.33 | Antiarc | I play my blue-and-green geared warrior in the arena, and my uber-epixed rogue, and the vast superiority of the warrior in there is just blindingly obvious. |
| 20:25.35 | Mudkips | i killed a rogue with white damage and lacerate, am I OP? |
| 20:25.38 | Fisker- | thought they were going to rape us |
| 20:25.38 | kaiden | nevcairiel, nope |
| 20:25.48 | cncfanatics | QuantumDelta, palatanks just aren't what they're ment to be, and my old server with my pala on it is dead |
| 20:25.50 | kaiden | nevcairiel, the only bar mods i use are bartender3 & cyCircled |
| 20:25.53 | nevcairiel | can you drag spells off that empty buttons? |
| 20:25.54 | kaiden | Hjalte, no |
| 20:25.58 | Antiarc | Fisker-: That doesn't really change anything from how it is now |
| 20:26.02 | Fisker- | Antiarc the most overpowered rogue of them all |
| 20:26.04 | QuantumDelta | ....does anyone know any slash commands for fubar? x_x |
| 20:26.05 | kaiden | nevcairiel, yes i can |
| 20:26.06 | Hjalte | kaiden: what font is it then? :) |
| 20:26.10 | Antiarc | It's a ranged attack right now, which means you can't block/parry blind |
| 20:26.14 | kaiden | Hjalte, Calibri Bold |
| 20:26.15 | Fisker- | yeah |
| 20:26.21 | Fisker- | but they said at first it was going to be melee |
| 20:26.22 | Hjalte | kaiden: thanks |
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| 20:26.40 | Antiarc | They was misinformed! |
| 20:26.46 | kaiden | nevcairiel, here's the kicker, i can drag a spell off, but when i put it back on, the button disappears |
| 20:26.49 | kaiden | but the spell is still on the button |
| 20:26.53 | kaiden | because i can drag it off again |
| 20:27.03 | nevcairiel | mm maybe cy issues again, /me checks |
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| 20:27.30 | charon | aestil: btw that mail presupposes you have a 'patch' or equivalent (tortoise can do it too) ... i hope i got the right one, i'm in the middle of a raid so i can't really check |
| 20:28.19 | QuantumDelta | cncfanatics |
| 20:28.25 | Paene | Anyone ever used the "Cleanup WoW Saved Variables" in WAU |
| 20:28.26 | Paene | ? |
| 20:28.27 | QuantumDelta | my PC died a death a week and a half ago |
| 20:28.37 | QuantumDelta | my guild has absolutely been crying at the loss of my pally tanking :P |
| 20:29.17 | MoonWitch | Paene, yes. |
| 20:29.31 | QuantumDelta | unless lots of cc is needed I walk into 25man trash with the attitude "if the wars don't pick it up fast enough I'll just tank this pack myself" :< |
| 20:29.33 | cncfanatics | QuantumDelta :o |
| 20:29.57 | QuantumDelta | the only boss i remember ever being completely dire for was vashj ;\ |
| 20:29.58 | MoonWitch | it removes all saved vars of which it can't find an addon.. back up the wt folder and give it a whirl. see if you broke something |
| 20:30.12 | QuantumDelta | and even then Righteous defence is a god send for the naga |
| 20:31.21 | nevcairiel | kaiden: can you try the bar which is not cyCircled skinned? |
| 20:31.36 | dreamss | is there a proc logger from ace? |
| 20:31.46 | Mudkips | "Cleanup WoW Saved Variables" in WAU, I used this thing called wowcleaner before I had wau |
| 20:31.54 | Mudkips | both does the exact same thing |
| 20:31.58 | kaiden | nevcairiel, let me go unload cyCircled |
| 20:33.14 | kaiden | nevcairiel, with cyCircled off it works fine |
| 20:33.25 | nevcairiel | figures |
| 20:33.28 | nevcairiel | will look at cy |
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| 20:35.07 | kenlyric | wau gets confused by librock |
| 20:35.21 | kenlyric | since librock creates a SV. And it's a library. |
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| 20:36.05 | ckknight | wau's fault |
| 20:36.19 | nevcairiel | why does a lib create a SV? |
| 20:36.23 | nevcairiel | what if i run it embed? |
| 20:36.24 | nevcairiel | *shrug |
| 20:36.47 | Ellipsis | what is WAU doing to determine whether it's a library, and why does being a library automatically mean it can't have SVs? |
| 20:36.51 | Soulless | so GetActionFromMacroText got replaced by SecureCmdOptionParse anybody know syntax on it? |
| 20:37.02 | CIA-22 | 03jncl * r49925 10Skinner/ (14 files in 2 dirs): (log message trimmed) |
| 20:37.02 | CIA-22 | Skinner: Skinned Capping & Skillet, also Chat Menu's |
| 20:37.02 | CIA-22 | - Updated LightHeaded, Auctioneer & Bagnon skins |
| 20:37.02 | CIA-22 | - Updated BattleFieldMinimap skin for Capping Addon |
| 20:37.02 | CIA-22 | - Moved BattlefieldMinimap code to UIElements1 |
| 20:37.03 | CIA-22 | - Changed icon to a 'Skin' |
| 20:37.05 | CIA-22 | - updated TOC |
| 20:37.19 | nevcairiel | Ellipsis: libraries can run embeded in addons, so they cant rely on that SV |
| 20:37.29 | Ellipsis | I understand that nevcairiel |
| 20:37.36 | Ellipsis | that has nothing to do with my question though |
| 20:37.44 | Ellipsis | why does WAU think it gets to make that decision >_> |
| 20:37.49 | kenlyric | Ellipsis: i'm talking out of my ass. I have no idea why it keeps removing the librock.lua SV, or what that SV has in it. |
| 20:38.03 | kenlyric | libs don't have SV. |
| 20:38.23 | kenlyric | that's why you can't have a library of player names/levels/classes. |
| 20:38.35 | Ellipsis | once again, I understand that |
| 20:38.54 | Ellipsis | however the SVs for Rock are dev stuff which is only run when disembedded anyway |
| 20:39.02 | CIA-22 | 03nevcairiel * r49926 10cyCircled/plugins/Bartender3.lua: |
| 20:39.02 | CIA-22 | cyCircled: |
| 20:39.02 | CIA-22 | - fixed BT3 plugin |
| 20:39.04 | kenlyric | devs don't use that setting. |
| 20:39.12 | nevcairiel | kaiden: that should fix it |
| 20:39.17 | kenlyric | that's a "lazy guy like me" setting |
| 20:39.18 | ckknight | kenlyric: it optionally uses the SV, it keeps track of things for developers |
| 20:39.25 | ckknight | specifically whether unit tests and contracts are run |
| 20:39.34 | Ellipsis | kenlyric: what setting, cleanup SVs? |
| 20:39.41 | kenlyric | Ellipsis: ;;) |
| 20:40.00 | kenlyric | So learned from a helpful flyer in rolling stone that ;) means I'm hitting on everyone I talk to. |
| 20:40.07 | Ellipsis | uh oh |
| 20:40.09 | Ellipsis | I better watch out |
| 20:40.15 | Ellipsis | I wink a lot :( |
| 20:40.44 | kenlyric | since I guess somewhere on myspace it got turned from sarcastic face to make out with me face |
| 20:41.14 | Ellipsis | I almost wonder if WAU is trying to find AddonName.lua in SVs rather than parsing the toc to find the correct name |
| 20:41.25 | Ellipsis | and since LibRock-1.0 ~= LibRock |
| 20:41.36 | Ellipsis | it thinks the SVs are orphans and baleets them |
| 20:42.10 | Ellipsis | I suppose the code for WAU isn't still updated on sourceforge, is it? |
| 20:42.32 | nevcairiel | i dont think so |
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| 20:43.01 | Ellipsis | yeah, last commit there was 1.9.43 |
| 20:43.05 | Ellipsis | so it's now closed source or what? |
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| 20:44.44 | vithos | i think it's been closed source since ads were added |
| 20:44.59 | Ellipsis | wow, that's...interesting |
| 20:45.11 | Ellipsis | is that just so people can't recompile without the ads or what? |
| 20:45.14 | vithos | yeah |
| 20:45.15 | Tinyboom | lol, that was miss of the day:p ubuntu 7.04 does not like my mainboard... maybe the 7.10 release can help me:p |
| 20:45.56 | Ellipsis | so now there's really no way to know what's going on inside WAU (for example, how it does the SV cleanup) without reverse engineering...fun |
| 20:46.05 | Hjalte | Ellipsis, I've seen a version without ads recently.. I think. |
| 20:46.17 | Ellipsis | oh I don't care about that |
| 20:46.34 | Ellipsis | I use a different updater which suits me just fine |
| 20:47.04 | kaiden | ok my earlier discussion about binding keys still holds true |
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| 20:47.11 | RogueShadow | hmm.. ad's don't really bother me, I usually forget they are there. |
| 20:47.16 | RogueShadow | It's not like they pop up or something |
| 20:47.18 | MoonWitch | which updater ya use? |
| 20:47.20 | kaiden | I think blizzard may have changed the way modifier keys are bound |
| 20:47.27 | Ellipsis | I'm using CmdAceUpdater |
| 20:47.30 | kaiden | from seeing them as ALT to LEFTALT - RIGHT ALT or what not |
| 20:47.45 | Ellipsis | kaiden: yarly, l2read patch notes |
| 20:47.56 | Ellipsis | (I typoed notes 4 times in a row before getting that right...gah) |
| 20:48.01 | RogueShadow | I heard asbout that |
| 20:48.14 | RogueShadow | s/asbout/about |
| 20:48.19 | kenlyric | l2type patch notes |
| 20:48.19 | ckknight | Ellipsis: okay, I'm up to $220, only $74 to go |
| 20:48.24 | Ellipsis | lol! |
| 20:48.25 | Ellipsis | <3 |
| 20:48.34 | kaiden | Ellipsis, ok.. explain why it's affecting the default keybindings interface |
| 20:48.42 | RogueShadow | ckknight, ? |
| 20:48.43 | kenlyric | mud flowed up into Lump's pajamas! |
| 20:48.44 | Ellipsis | kaiden: because Blizzard did it |
| 20:48.46 | MoonWitch | ckknight,what ya saving for :P |
| 20:48.55 | kaiden | Ellipsis, ok, i dont think you understand what i'm saying.. |
| 20:49.00 | kenlyric | $294... what could cost that? |
| 20:49.02 | ckknight | Ellipsis needs a round-trip plane ticket |
| 20:49.05 | aestil | ellipsis, i'm not going to palmdale today. |
| 20:49.09 | kaiden | Ellipsis, when using ANY modifier keys you can't set keybindings at all |
| 20:49.10 | aestil | wtb texture tutorial |
| 20:49.12 | kaiden | not that they are changed |
| 20:49.14 | MoonWitch | ah |
| 20:49.20 | Ellipsis | aestil: giev email address, I'll send you this texture |
| 20:49.31 | kaiden | they are completely fucked you can't set them.. because when you hit alt to do the modifier it sees it as you pressing alt-leftalt |
| 20:49.36 | kaiden | and sets the binding to that |
| 20:49.40 | Ellipsis | kaiden: that's pretty cool |
| 20:49.44 | MoonWitch | aestil, it's just a tga with alpha, multiple of 2 for backgrounds, multiple of 8 for borders |
| 20:50.21 | Ellipsis | alt+leftalt+1-5 would give me so much extra keybinding room for my abilities |
| 20:50.25 | Ellipsis | XD |
| 20:50.28 | MoonWitch | lol |
| 20:50.46 | kovecheno | Need help with wardrobe2. Why does it say: "Wardrobe2: Please include an exisiting outfit you wish to wear" "Usage: /wardrobe wear <outfit>" - When I use the command /wardrobe wear Pvp (pvp is name of outfit)? I've got to click for it to not spam chat. Got latest version etc. |
| 20:50.53 | aestil | no one else got shadows/outlines on their fonts? |
| 20:51.12 | Ellipsis | aestil: recent Prat problem if that's what you use |
| 20:51.46 | aestil | i have prat disabled. delete prat SV's? |
| 20:51.53 | Ellipsis | no, it's a bug in the code |
| 20:51.59 | sylvanaar | what |
| 20:52.01 | aestil | prat is not running. |
| 20:52.07 | aestil | yeah, i have shadows on everything. |
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| 20:52.17 | Ellipsis | the checkbox to disable the shadows was having no effect according to users here >_> |
| 20:52.17 | sylvanaar | jfc its a blizzard bug |
| 20:52.40 | Ellipsis | I have no shadows |
| 20:52.43 | aestil | jfc? |
| 20:53.06 | sylvanaar | its a blizz bug afaik |
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| 20:53.23 | sylvanaar | prat doesnt adjust the drop shadows at present |
| 20:53.28 | Stanzilla2 | Antiarc: omen is quite broken with pets? |
| 20:53.48 | kaiden | ellipsis, i found a way around it, if you hold the modifier key before you go into the binding mod |
| 20:53.51 | kaiden | mode |
| 20:53.58 | kaiden | you can set the keybinding correctly that way |
| 20:53.59 | Ellipsis | sylvanaar: any insight into the SV cleanup in WAU? |
| 20:54.01 | Kain___ | does Ace have a similar mod to MobInfo2 that tracks the drops from each mob along w/ display health and such? I have mobhelath right now which does a good job of tracking health but no method to track drop rate of items |
| 20:54.01 | Thumann | Hi, i've grown very fond of Pitbull, but is there a way to move the health and mana/energy/rage bars below the portrait? instead of having them right of the portrait |
| 20:54.09 | Ellipsis | kaiden: interesting o.O |
| 20:54.10 | sylvanaar | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=1778045378&sid=1&pageNo=1 |
| 20:54.21 | sylvanaar | Ellipsis like what |
| 20:54.33 | aestil | *cries* i just want to get rid of the freaking font shadows. its so unbelieveably frustrating. |
| 20:54.47 | sylvanaar | http://wow.curse.com/downloads/details/9344/ |
| 20:54.49 | sylvanaar | there |
| 20:54.52 | sylvanaar | go get that |
| 20:54.57 | Ellipsis | sylvanaar: does it look for AddonName.lua or check the .toc for the actual name? |
| 20:55.26 | sylvanaar | Ellipsis folder name |
| 20:55.35 | Ellipsis | ah, that'd do it then |
| 20:55.43 | Antiarc | Stanzilla2: So I hear, working on it |
| 20:55.54 | alext | aestil: whats the problem, you cant find the shadow option? |
| 20:56.01 | Ellipsis | sylvanaar, any chance of fixing that? |
| 20:56.03 | Mech0z | hhas !OmniCC and clearfont been removed ? |
| 20:56.07 | sylvanaar | fixing what |
| 20:56.20 | Fisker- | lets become an heroes |
| 20:56.23 | Kirkburn | Mech0z, ? |
| 20:56.24 | aestil | alext, its just always on. there is no mod that I know of that should be putting shadows on all my fonts. |
| 20:56.24 | Ellipsis | it's not a major issue, but the SV cleanup is deleting Rock SVs because the folder is LibRock-1.0 and the SV is LibRock.lua |
| 20:56.39 | alext | are you talking about your fonts in your chat window |
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| 20:56.41 | alext | or ALL fonts? |
| 20:56.43 | sylvanaar | then something is broken |
| 20:56.45 | aestil | sylvanaar gave me a link. i'll see if that works. |
| 20:56.49 | Mech0z | Kirkburn, can't find them in aceupdater |
| 20:56.53 | Ellipsis | theoretically other addons could use different names in the future... |
| 20:56.59 | alext | i know the shadows in the chat window was a prat thing |
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| 20:57.03 | alext | they were turned on during one update |
| 20:57.06 | aestil | fubar and ebb fonts, as well as sws font. |
| 20:57.26 | sylvanaar | no, prat does not let you change the drop shadow distance - just the color |
| 20:57.37 | CIA-22 | 03stormfx * r49927 10cyCircled_Onyx/ (ReadMe.txt cyCircled_Onyx.toc embeds.xml): |
| 20:57.37 | CIA-22 | cyCircled_Onyx: |
| 20:57.37 | CIA-22 | - ToC 20200 |
| 20:57.37 | CIA-22 | - Embeds.xml |
| 20:57.43 | Kirkburn | Mech0z, still there as far as I can see |
| 20:57.50 | alext | ah ok other windows, i wouldnt know |
| 20:57.52 | sylvanaar | those were outlines that were turned on |
| 20:58.22 | sylvanaar | drop shadows are the blizzard default for ALL text |
| 20:58.48 | Mech0z | I cant see them, are they renamed so they aint called "!something" |
| 20:59.09 | sylvanaar | How do you have an SV that is different than the Addon Folder name |
| 20:59.24 | Ellipsis | sylvanaar: um... |
| 20:59.35 | Ellipsis | you don't name your addon folder the same as your addon? |
| 20:59.46 | sylvanaar | the title is irrelevant |
| 21:00.02 | Stanzilla2 | Antiarc: awesome! looking forward to it |
| 21:00.05 | sylvanaar | the SV matches the name of the TOC |
| 21:00.12 | sylvanaar | which has to match the name of the folder |
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| 21:00.23 | sylvanaar | anything else is broken |
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| 21:00.32 | Ellipsis | I don't mean the title |
| 21:00.49 | Mech0z | Kirkburn, where do you see them? |
| 21:00.51 | sylvanaar | its a blizzard bug then |
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| 21:01.10 | sylvanaar | you cant do AddonName\SomeOtherName.toc |
| 21:01.15 | Kirkburn | under installed addons ... |
| 21:01.17 | sylvanaar | it wont load |
| 21:01.23 | Ellipsis | I know, sylvanaar |
| 21:01.25 | Ellipsis | sigh |
| 21:01.42 | nevcairiel | Kirkburn: hax the RANGE_INDICATOR special char into calibri .. somehow .. pls .. :D |
| 21:01.51 | Kirkburn | lol, no |
| 21:02.02 | Ellipsis | I thought it was a side effect of the way the DB lib handled the saving |
| 21:02.05 | Ellipsis | but I guess I could be wrong |
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| 21:02.17 | Mech0z | well I dont have them installed so I need to find them in the list :) and I cant.. |
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| 21:02.44 | ag` | waht happened to the aceevent2 docs |
| 21:02.44 | genetik- | omnicc isn't in the repository, is it? |
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| 21:03.20 | sylvanaar | SV's dont support numeric names |
| 21:03.22 | kovecheno | Need help with wardrobe2. Why does it say: "Wardrobe2: Please include an exisiting outfit you wish to wear" "Usage: /wardrobe wear <outfit>" - When I use the command /wardrobe wear Pvp (pvp is name of outfit)? I've got to click for it to not spam chat. Got latest version etc. |
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| 21:04.15 | aestil | ckknight, i was forced into a jira ticket for a feature. sorry. |
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| 21:04.27 | ckknight | aestil: which feature? |
| 21:04.28 | aestil | ~seen sirow |
| 21:04.32 | purl | sirow <n=Miranda_@p57A4D3EC.dip.t-dialin.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 4h 12m 23s ago, saying: 'lol'. |
| 21:04.33 | aestil | cowtip aura |
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| 21:04.50 | Ellipsis | hmm |
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| 21:05.03 | aestil | if it was a cowtip module I would be very happy. |
| 21:05.20 | aestil | also, what is the reason an ace2 mod's config wouldn't show up in rock config? |
| 21:05.36 | ckknight | aestil: if it doesn't register with AceConsole |
| 21:05.45 | sylvanaar | Blizzard has changed the name of the sv and removed -1.0, i think that blizzard should fix that, or people should not use -1.0 in their addon names |
| 21:05.47 | ckknight | currently that's all that LibRockConfig-1.0 checks |
| 21:05.47 | HarrisonF | huzzah, that text shadow fix addon is awesome |
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| 21:05.58 | Ellipsis | Rock is now taking up more memory in my UI than Ace2 o.o |
| 21:06.15 | aestil | you must not have many ace2 mods ellipsis |
| 21:06.16 | ckknight | Ellipsis: mem usage is directly related to the addons using it |
| 21:06.25 | Ellipsis | I know |
| 21:06.32 | Ellipsis | but are there any that aren't your code, ckknight? |
| 21:06.38 | Ellipsis | I can blame you if I want to :P |
| 21:06.41 | ckknight | two, I think |
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| 21:06.43 | Ellipsis | aestil: I use a lot |
| 21:06.43 | sylvanaar | what happens when i make "LibFoo" and "LibFoo-1.0", where do thier SV's go |
| 21:06.50 | Ellipsis | 2.2MiB can't be right for Rock though |
| 21:06.56 | sylvanaar | both go to LibFoo.lua |
| 21:07.05 | ckknight | Ellipsis: that does seem a bit much |
| 21:07.12 | ckknight | blizz's mem system isn't great, imho |
| 21:07.16 | ckknight | it checks through taint |
| 21:07.27 | ckknight | not on a function-by-function basis like CPU profiling |
| 21:07.33 | ckknight | and we all know how great the taint-checking is |
| 21:07.45 | CIA-22 | 03deccard * r49928 10MiniChat/Core.lua: |
| 21:07.45 | CIA-22 | MiniChat: |
| 21:07.45 | CIA-22 | - internal changes |
| 21:07.53 | Ellipsis | yeah, not sure what happened but I noticed a huge increase in overall memory usage since patch |
| 21:07.53 | Ellipsis | like, nearly doubled my initial and post-gc |
| 21:07.54 | kaiden | OneBag when opening your bank: [string "BBankFrameItem1:OnShow"]:1: attempt to call global 'BankFrameItemButton_OnUpdate' (a nil value) |
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| 21:08.22 | Lukian | Ellipsis, what addons do you use to check memory usage/ |
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| 21:08.28 | CIA-22 | 03funkydude * r49929 10BigWigs/Hyjal/Archimonde.lua: |
| 21:08.28 | CIA-22 | BigWigs: Hyjal/Archimonde: Proximity:- |
| 21:08.29 | CIA-22 | - Bugfix for not showing |
| 21:08.29 | CIA-22 | - only show on engage |
| 21:08.29 | CIA-22 | - increase range (bandage) |
| 21:08.34 | Ellipsis | Lukian: Usage or PerformanceFu depending on the situation |
| 21:08.44 | Lukian | I find Usage to be great :) |
| 21:09.10 | Ellipsis | I normally use Usage when tuning my UI, I got rid of it again after the Rock switch was all settled |
| 21:09.14 | aestil | whats wierd, is that my addon memory is down significally. |
| 21:09.19 | Mech0z | Kirkburn, any clue why it Aint working? :p |
| 21:09.26 | Ellipsis | because I *thought* I wasn't going to have any more major issues with addon memory |
| 21:09.35 | aestil | but when i start up, i have 2.9 Ace2 memory, vs 1mb with rock. |
| 21:09.39 | Mech0z | It should be listed in the top because of the ! right? |
| 21:09.41 | aestil | as far as rock lib vs ace2. |
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| 21:10.09 | Ellipsis | yeah aestil, that's how mine used to be |
| 21:10.10 | Kreiger2 | hey guys. any of you know anything about computers outside of coding addons and wowace stuff? |
| 21:10.11 | Kreiger2 | hehe |
| 21:10.16 | CIA-22 | 03sano * r49930 10LoggerHead/ (LoggerHead.lua LoggerHead.toc embeds.xml libs/): LoggerHead: Updated TOC. Added Babble-Zone-2.2 to libs |
| 21:10.30 | Ellipsis | was anything else ported to Rock since FuBarPlugin? |
| 21:10.35 | orionshock | Kreiger2 i do |
| 21:10.42 | Kirkburn | Mech0z, in WAU? Nope |
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| 21:10.55 | aestil | im unheard of low on addon memory right now, 29 at log in. |
| 21:11.12 | Mech0z | Kirkburn, nwm I found clearfont /slap myself, now I just need to find the omnicc |
| 21:11.17 | Primer | Hi, since I'm using wowaceupdater, shouldn't Recount show as compatible with WoW 2.2? |
| 21:11.20 | Kreiger2 | Orionshock, i'm have an issue with services.exe you able to help? |
| 21:11.26 | genetik- | Mech0z: OmniCC isn't part of the ace repository |
| 21:11.32 | Mech0z | oh |
| 21:11.37 | orionshock | Kreiger services.msc you mean? |
| 21:11.39 | Mech0z | thoguth I found it inthere once? |
| 21:11.51 | sylvanaar | services.exe is a generic host process |
| 21:11.53 | Ellipsis | aestil, I'm at 28 even with the strange LibRock usage :P |
| 21:11.54 | aestil | ok, so instead of fixing my sv ellipsis, what say i just let you fix my UI up :) |
| 21:11.59 | Ellipsis | lol, ok |
| 21:12.00 | orionshock | b/c if you have issues with services.exe your computer is fucked ... badly |
| 21:12.00 | aestil | what is your librock at? |
| 21:12.11 | Ellipsis | 2.2 |
| 21:12.13 | aestil | you've seen my UI many times. |
| 21:12.15 | aestil | WTF |
| 21:12.20 | Ellipsis | wait...no...2.8 now |
| 21:12.23 | aestil | are there any new rock mods? |
| 21:12.24 | Ellipsis | *GCs* |
| 21:12.33 | Ellipsis | yeah, 2.82 and still rising |
| 21:12.34 | Kreiger2 | orion services.exe shuts down my computer. i'm at a client's house and he had a shit-ton of spyware and viruses which avg/spybot found and took care of. |
| 21:12.36 | Ellipsis | wtf is up with that |
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| 21:12.44 | orionshock | aestil: yssguildbank is getting ported |
| 21:12.49 | aestil | ./rl |
| 21:13.06 | sylvanaar | Ellipsis im not planning on fixing the SV issue - its not a bug in WAU, its a bug with blizzards SV naming, or people's use of it |
| 21:13.08 | kandarz | Ellipsis, your librock is 2.8mb? wow |
| 21:13.15 | CIA-22 | 03sano * r49931 10LoggerHead/ (embeds.xml libs/): LoggerHead: Fixed type in svn:externals |
| 21:13.18 | Kreiger2 | on a side note, anybody know if autobar's being fixed? |
| 21:13.18 | Ellipsis | I understand sylvanaar |
| 21:13.28 | aestil | yssguildbank? i dunno that one. i was mostly asking if she had a mod that was making it grow alot. |
| 21:13.30 | sylvanaar | i made a post about it |
| 21:13.36 | orionshock | Kreiger there comes a point in time with spy ware and viruses where the only way to UnFuck it is to do an OSRI and try again |
| 21:13.40 | Ellipsis | LibRock is initializing at 2.18MiB aestil |
| 21:13.41 | sylvanaar | http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=8755.0 |
| 21:13.45 | aestil | WTF |
| 21:13.47 | Ellipsis | yeah |
| 21:13.53 | Ellipsis | I don't know what's going on |
| 21:13.56 | aestil | you run disemmbeded? |
| 21:13.58 | Ellipsis | yes |
| 21:14.03 | kandarz | mines at 380kb |
| 21:14.03 | aestil | obviously. |
| 21:14.16 | a[b]raxas | hay guys, a week or two ago after updating all my crap through WAU, my mouse-thumb button stopped working |
| 21:14.17 | orionshock | LibRock is loading at 1.53 for me |
| 21:14.19 | Ellipsis | I'm going to have to try disabling things now |
| 21:14.22 | aestil | with all 5 ckk mods, mines at 335. |
| 21:14.23 | a[b]raxas | anyone have even the slightest idea of what might be up? |
| 21:14.24 | Ellipsis | because this is pretty insane |
| 21:14.35 | Kreiger2 | orionshock, check this out. this is the erroe |
| 21:14.37 | Kreiger2 | services.exe terminated unexpectedly with status code -1073741819 |
| 21:14.40 | Kreiger2 | error* |
| 21:14.43 | Ellipsis | aestil: which ported libs are you running? |
| 21:14.57 | kovecheno | Need help with wardrobe2. Why does it say: "Wardrobe2: Please include an exisiting outfit you wish to wear" "Usage: /wardrobe wear <outfit>" - When I use the command /wardrobe wear Pvp (pvp is name of outfit)? I've got to click for it to not spam chat. Got latest version etc. |
| 21:14.59 | aestil | parrot, cowtip, pitbull, cartographer, fubar |
| 21:15.00 | Kreiger2 | it gives me a count-down of 1 minute, and then reboots |
| 21:15.13 | Ellipsis | aestil: libs, not addons :P |
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| 21:15.42 | Ellipsis | WHOA |
| 21:15.42 | Mech0z | Kirkburn, you must know if clearfont2 is better than clearfont |
| 21:15.54 | Kirkburn|afk | Well, I do, I did make them both :P |
| 21:16.09 | Ellipsis | disabled PitBull and reloaded - my LibRock initialized at 275KiB instead of 2.2MiB |
| 21:16.14 | Ellipsis | ckknight, wtf did you do? |
| 21:16.18 | Primer | In fact, in wowaceupdater there are several packages listed under "installed" that show up as out of date within WoW |
| 21:16.36 | Kirkburn|afk | Primer, that is completely normal |
| 21:16.40 | genetik- | heh.. i actually still use a really old copy of clearfont |
| 21:16.55 | Kirkburn|afk | Fine by me :) |
| 21:16.58 | Primer | Kirkburn|afk: meaning, they simply haven't been, or maybe even never will be, updated for 2.2? |
| 21:17.05 | ckknight | Ellipsis: table recycling gets attributed to LibRock-1.0 instead of PitBull |
| 21:17.12 | Kirkburn|afk | No, meaning that it's only been one day since release! |
| 21:17.23 | kandarz | Primer, depends on the author of the addon and how quick they are |
| 21:17.27 | Ellipsis | ckknight: is this a recent development? |
| 21:17.28 | sedai| | good day coders and wow peeples |
| 21:17.28 | NightHawkTheSane | Primer: if it hasn't broken, there's a good chance it won't be updated. |
| 21:17.33 | Primer | right |
| 21:17.36 | Ellipsis | because this kind of memory usage really is unusual for me |
| 21:17.39 | Kirkburn|afk | And whether they want to update the toc if no actual update has been made |
| 21:17.50 | Primer | figured at the very least the dependency would be updated |
| 21:17.53 | Primer | thanks |
| 21:18.23 | kandarz | Primer, people might be gone and can't update their addons, if it ain't broke, don't fix it |
| 21:18.41 | Ellipsis | and I don't know what kind of table recycling could be creating ~2MiB of data when it's only loading a player and pet frame on login... |
| 21:19.18 | NeoTron | anyone that keeps track of things know if autobar/xloot are fixed yet? |
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| 21:19.32 | genetik- | i heard someone say earlier that autobar was fixed |
| 21:19.43 | genetik- | xloot was working fine for me last night |
| 21:19.50 | Kreiger2 | That would make me orgasm lots if autobar was fixed |
| 21:19.53 | Lukian | NeoTron, a new autobar was released earlier |
| 21:20.01 | Lukian | author called for testing |
| 21:20.04 | NeoTron | looking at the change log, it seems to indeed be the case |
| 21:20.17 | Primer | kandarz: you mean people go for more than a day without playing WoW? |
| 21:20.18 | Kahlas | NeoTron, i'll let you know in just a sec if autobar is working |
| 21:20.25 | aestil | ellipsis, all of them as far as i know. |
| 21:20.27 | Primer | I find that unimaginable |
| 21:20.31 | NeoTron | xloot also seems to have been fixed |
| 21:20.31 | kandarz | Primer, amazingly enough, yes they do |
| 21:20.36 | Strychnos | Anybody know if I can have an SCT event show in the SCTDamage frame? |
| 21:20.55 | orionshock | hey ckknight im getting random inc dmg from a pet... *im a druid :\ |
| 21:20.58 | NeoTron | it was rather scary to be raid leader without it (giving out loot in a class base list is so much better than with a group based list) |
| 21:21.06 | Strychnos | i.e: I want it to say "Extra Attack" or "Windfury Proc" or whatever in the SCTDamage frame, as opposed to the damage/heal frame |
| 21:21.11 | kandarz | plus addons could have been abandoned since 2.1 came out |
| 21:22.05 | aestil | LibAbacus, Lib Babble spell/zone, lib crayon, lib dog tag, lib fubarplugin 3, lib gratuity, lib jostle, lib rock, liib rock comm, lib rock config, lib rock console, lib rock db, lib rocke even, lib rock hook, librock locale, lib rock module core, lib rock timer, lib rollcall, lib shared media, lib special evnents aura lib tourists |
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| 21:22.36 | Kahlas | autobar working fine now |
| 21:22.38 | Ellipsis | hmm |
| 21:23.04 | NeoTron | Kahlas: nice |
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| 21:23.30 | Ellipsis | ckknight, are there any libs used by PitBull that aren't used by any other Rock-based addons? |
| 21:23.44 | Ellipsis | or anything else other than PitBull itself that could be adding to it? |
| 21:24.10 | ckknight | not that I know of... |
| 21:24.19 | Zhinjio | Anyone on that can help me with an SVN Commit problem (it appears I don't have permissions on my own directory) |
| 21:24.28 | Zhinjio | Ammo was helping me earlier. |
| 21:24.31 | Zhinjio | (much) |
| 21:24.33 | Ellipsis | so this is just...normal? |
| 21:24.50 | MoonWitch | Ellipsis: what's the prob |
| 21:25.05 | Kreiger2 | Can you guys tell me precisely WHY they decided to use Rock? |
| 21:25.09 | Ellipsis | unusually high LibRock memory usage >_> |
| 21:25.29 | aestil | ellipsis, it can't be normal. are all your rock lib mods embedded into librock somehow? |
| 21:25.34 | NeoTron | Kreiger2: because "they" (i.e ckknight) wrote rock to replace "their" use of ace2? |
| 21:25.43 | Aeyan | kreiger: Because they're ckknight's addons and he wrote a new library framework for them |
| 21:25.47 | Ellipsis | aestil, nothing is special about my install |
| 21:25.55 | Ellipsis | I will check my addons dir again... |
| 21:25.56 | Sole | ckknight: ping |
| 21:25.57 | Kreiger2 | so now we have to have ace2 and rock? |
| 21:26.00 | aestil | just WAU auto dependecy d/l |
| 21:26.04 | Kreiger2 | why not just have 1... |
| 21:26.08 | Sole | Ellipsis: naked pics now...me so horny |
| 21:26.08 | Aeyan | And Ace3, yes |
| 21:26.15 | ckknight | Kreiger: Ace2 has flaws |
| 21:26.25 | ckknight | Aeyan: nothing uses Ace3 yet, so it's currently not on the table |
| 21:26.29 | aestil | kreiger2, don't ask about this. there is also dongle, and ace3 coming, and also, there are many mods, not using a shared lib framework. |
| 21:26.38 | aestil | don't worry about the framework the mod was written in. |
| 21:26.39 | Kreiger2 | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:26.43 | Kreiger2 | you guys drive me nuts |
| 21:26.43 | Sole | Ace3 is confusing :( |
| 21:26.48 | Aeyan | I know, I've been keeping up with the projects |
| 21:26.51 | Ellipsis | Sole...do I know you? :P |
| 21:27.05 | aestil | why are you in this channel then kreiger2? go get your mods, and you'll be happy. |
| 21:27.07 | Sole | still dont understand what EmbedLibraries means...is that like a mixin but now you've gotta run a function to get em? |
| 21:27.11 | Sole | Ellipsis: you will soon |
| 21:27.22 | Ellipsis | aestil: I do not use WAU nor any auto-dependency crap. I download only the libs I need. |
| 21:27.49 | Kreiger2 | aestil, i like to learn about the root causes instead of blindly downloading. |
| 21:27.57 | aestil | ellipsis, well, then although you do not consider your install to be 'special' it is drastically different than mine. |
| 21:28.06 | Shadowed | Sole is Gladiator still using memo? |
| 21:28.16 | aestil | krieger2, did you use cartographer and fubar prior to its use of a new framework? |
| 21:28.19 | Sole | memo? |
| 21:28.23 | Shadowed | acecomm |
| 21:28.24 | aestil | the mods do the same thing, and your performance will not be hurt. |
| 21:28.29 | Sole | yeah |
| 21:28.32 | Ellipsis | aestil: not really, I have all the same Rock-based libs and addons you do, and run disembedded |
| 21:28.36 | aestil | as you are not a dev, no harm can come from your continued use of them. |
| 21:28.36 | Shadowed | i hate you people and your unsyncable mods |
| 21:28.39 | NeoTron | I notice my memory use last night was only 54 MB or so |
| 21:28.43 | Aeyan | You can revert ck's addons back to the old Ace2 versions if you want |
| 21:28.45 | Shadowed | Static memory is useless |
| 21:28.46 | NeoTron | I was happily surprised. not quite sure |
| 21:28.48 | Shadowed | it's not a useful stat |
| 21:28.49 | Sole | I havent updated the thing in over a month |
| 21:28.54 | Shadowed | i still hate you people |
| 21:28.55 | Ellipsis | aestil: I update a little differently, but the result is the same |
| 21:28.57 | Sole | Shadowed: dont hate, appreciate |
| 21:29.03 | Shadowed | H-A-T-E |
| 21:29.05 | Aeyan | Well, it's useful for load times |
| 21:29.08 | Sole | Shadowed: I'll change that in Cockfight then! |
| 21:29.11 | Aeyan | Not for in game performance though |
| 21:29.17 | Shadowed | wtf is cockfight |
| 21:29.23 | Sole | gladiator 2 |
| 21:29.27 | aestil | i suppose ellipsis, but maybe, you could try updating with WAU and my way. i have like 120 things check in WAU and i'm runing at 29 MiB when i start up? |
| 21:29.27 | Mudkips | ;p; |
| 21:29.29 | Sole | I dont like the gladiator code |
| 21:29.32 | Sole | its all messy |
| 21:29.33 | MoonWitch | ~cockfight |
| 21:29.47 | Sole | and I'll save my sanity if I just start over |
| 21:29.47 | Shadowed | ah |
| 21:29.52 | Shadowed | good idea |
| 21:29.55 | MoonWitch | purl, cockfight is a fight between to cocks, aka rooster vs rooster. |
| 21:29.56 | purl | okay, MoonWitch |
| 21:29.56 | Sole | instead of trying to band aid shit |
| 21:29.59 | Shadowed | redoing SSPVPs AUF again atm |
| 21:30.03 | Kreiger2 | lol |
| 21:30.05 | Ellipsis | aestil: I can't/won't use WAU, sorry >_> |
| 21:30.06 | CIA-22 | 03nevcairiel 07andreasg * r49932 10ag_UnitFrames/ag_UnitFrames/modules/combattext/combattext.lua: ag_UnitFrames: fix AceEvent-2.0 usage in combattext module |
| 21:30.14 | Shadowed | not sure if you can disable memo in acecomm, but if you use memo i'll kill you |
| 21:30.14 | Ellipsis | also: my overall memory usage is still lower than yours |
| 21:30.17 | Shadowed | cause i can't sync SSPVP with it then =p |
| 21:30.25 | Sole | hokay I wont use memo |
| 21:30.26 | Zhinjio | LF assistance with an SVN account permissions problem. Please msg me when someone gets freed up enough to assist. |
| 21:30.29 | Shadowed | yays |
| 21:30.30 | Ellipsis | it's just that this one particular thing is suspicious to me because it came on so suddenly |
| 21:30.38 | durcyn | Zhinjio: jus task the question |
| 21:30.46 | Zhinjio | I can't commit. |
| 21:31.02 | Zhinjio | I get failures with both TortoiseSVN and SmartSVN. |
| 21:31.06 | Aeyan | Bah, need to fix cycircled itemrack plugin yet agin |
| 21:31.07 | durcyn | error messages, go |
| 21:31.14 | nevcairiel | Zhinjio: you use dev.wowace.com ? |
| 21:31.14 | Ellipsis | Zhinjio, must not be popular with the girls then :P |
| 21:31.15 | Zhinjio | standby.... |
| 21:31.18 | aestil | not even briefly to check if that changes anything? are you anit .net? |
| 21:31.27 | kovecheno | Need help with wardrobe2. Why does it say: "Wardrobe2: Please include an exisiting outfit you wish to wear" "Usage: /wardrobe wear <outfit>" - When I use the command /wardrobe wear Pvp (pvp is name of outfit)? I've got to click for it to not spam chat. Got latest version etc. |
| 21:31.33 | aestil | ~seen sirow? |
| 21:31.35 | purl | sirow <n=Miranda_@p57A4D3EC.dip.t-dialin.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 4h 39m 26s ago, saying: 'lol'. |
| 21:31.35 | Ellipsis | aestil: I'm anti- a lot of things which I don't want to discuss publicly :P |
| 21:31.51 | Zhinjio | Error: Commit failed (details follow): |
| 21:31.53 | Sole | Shadowed: are you using a framework for SSPVP AUF? |
| 21:31.53 | aestil | lol. take it to tells! |
| 21:32.00 | Shadowed | It uses Dongle |
| 21:32.17 | Shadowed | well, SSPVP uses Dongle, and since the AUF is part of SSPVP it uses that too |
| 21:32.17 | NeoTron | kovecheno: so dumb question... if the name is "pvp" shouldn't you use /wardrobe wear pvp instead of /wardrobe wear Pvp (mind you I don't use wardrobe so no idea if it's case insensitive) |
| 21:32.19 | Zhinjio | Error: CHECKOUT of '/wowace/!svn/ver/48833/trunk/SuicideKingsGeo': 403 Forbidden (http://dev.wowace.com) |
| 21:32.26 | Zhinjio | yes, I used dev.wowace.com |
| 21:32.41 | durcyn | Zhinjio: you have to have a login, and what path are you actually using on your checkout? |
| 21:32.48 | Zhinjio | Ammo's opinion this morning was that my login has somehow no longer permissions over my own directory |
| 21:32.52 | durcyn | 403 just means the basic auth fails |
| 21:32.55 | Zhinjio | yes, I did have to login |
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| 21:33.13 | Imp4kT | can you change how often Pitbull updates the frames? |
| 21:33.15 | kovecheno | NeoTron sorry for my misspell, I wrote both Pvp in outfit and in the command. |
| 21:33.34 | NeoTron | ok. then I don't know :) as I said I don't use it myself, just a guess |
| 21:33.48 | aestil | ckknight, i believe that a mod is not playing nice with gratiuity's CL. |
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| 21:34.10 | ckknight | aestil: what's the issue? |
| 21:34.18 | Imp4kT | Any healers using Pitbull? |
| 21:34.27 | Elkano | omg... http://www.collegehumor.com/video:1777182 |
| 21:34.46 | Ellipsis | Imp4kT it updates whenever there's an event that updates it |
| 21:34.54 | Imp4kT | Alright |
| 21:34.59 | NeoTron | I just realized how insanely powerful pain suppression can be once it's changed to be targetable (on a 2 minute cooldown) |
| 21:34.59 | Zhinjio | I think at this point I'd just like to get the SKG directory deleted and start over or whatever is the most convenient way to "reset" my account |
| 21:35.07 | aestil | elkano, i have an issue with ebb that might be a wierd bug. |
| 21:35.10 | NeoTron | imagine 2 disc priests + kael'thas pyroblast |
| 21:35.15 | Imp4kT | Estimated heals dont show on any other frame apart from myself |
| 21:35.15 | Imp4kT | :/ |
| 21:35.19 | Mudkips | NeoTron, DRUIDWALL |
| 21:35.31 | NeoTron | "lolwhut 15k hit" |
| 21:35.32 | aestil | ckknight, avion seems to be not working. i'm going to see if installing the gratiuitylib fixes it. |
| 21:35.49 | ckknight | you'll need to remove LibGratuity-2.0 at the same time |
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| 21:36.32 | RogueShadow | ckknight, with Parrot, have you ever considered removing the spell/ability descriptions all together and just using the icon's and numbers to determine whats' going on? |
| 21:36.48 | ckknight | RogueShadow: you can do that already, since it's tag-based |
| 21:37.00 | RogueShadow | mm. True. |
| 21:37.05 | RogueShadow | I think I'll try that later... |
| 21:37.11 | Elkano | aestil, didn't happen *flash* |
| 21:37.13 | RogueShadow | less clutter, more info. |
| 21:37.50 | Chompers | ckknight: i'm starting to see more talent specs from dogtag around shatt |
| 21:37.54 | Chompers | it's pretty awesome to see |
| 21:37.55 | aestil | ckknight, ok. wat, will that break my rock mods? |
| 21:38.43 | orionshock | hey ckknight i found a c stack overflow :\ |
| 21:38.49 | aestil | elkano, i can't get the 'buff' anchor to stay at the top. |
| 21:38.58 | ckknight | orionshock: good times, got a line number for me? |
| 21:39.04 | aestil | when i position the anchor all the way at the top, it autopositions itself down a tiny bit. |
| 21:39.07 | orionshock | LibRockDB-1.0--50613 (LibRockDB-1.0):295: C stack overflow |
| 21:39.10 | aestil | but this only happens in the upper left corner. |
| 21:39.25 | aestil | if i take it away from the corner, it will stay at the very top. |
| 21:39.26 | orionshock | trying to disable pet damage on my druid... as i don't have a pet and keep getting dmg from one ?> |
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| 21:39.45 | orionshock | and it toaly phooked parrot |
| 21:40.11 | Kreiger2 | Orion hate to bug you. you said if services.exe was phooked, youshould OSRI or something? what did you mean? |
| 21:40.45 | Sole | wow that thread on EJ is a cesspool of ass |
| 21:40.56 | Sole | all I see is wah wah wah |
| 21:41.17 | Elkano | aestil: I wonder if they changed clamp behaviour |
| 21:41.34 | aestil | i have had this error forever. |
| 21:41.36 | ckknight | Sole: which one? |
| 21:41.49 | Sole | http://elitistjerks.com/f32/t16019-rock_framework_ckknight/p4/ |
| 21:41.49 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r49933 10LibRockDB-1.0/LibRockDB-1.0.lua: LibRockDB-1.0 - fix possible stack overflow |
| 21:41.50 | sedai| | http://icanhascheezburger.files.wordpress.com/2007/09/128297011302345000andatswheni.jpg |
| 21:41.57 | sedai| | sorry off topic but hilarious |
| 21:41.58 | ckknight | orionshock: there we go |
| 21:42.19 | aestil | actually, elkano, i think its not really a bug, just something not performing the right way for me. |
| 21:42.21 | Mudkips | that's not a cat |
| 21:42.24 | Mudkips | FAIL |
| 21:43.01 | aestil | elkano, I have a 1 pixel grouping space between my buffs and debuffs [debuffs are on top, buffs anchored below] |
| 21:43.07 | Imp4kT | Does anyone here play in windowed mode on a widescreen monitor? |
| 21:43.13 | Zhinjio | Yes. |
| 21:43.16 | aestil | my expactation is that when i have no debuff the buff will be as hi as possible. |
| 21:43.20 | Ellipsis | yes Imp4kT |
| 21:43.21 | tlund | Is there a problem with PallyPower in 2.2? I cant open the Options dialog anymore. just want to check if its a local problem, or something caused by the patch? |
| 21:43.25 | aestil | s/hi/high |
| 21:43.40 | Ellipsis | aestil: you're as hi as possible |
| 21:43.43 | Imp4kT | Ellipsis, does the recent patch mean you have stupid spaces on either side of your window |
| 21:43.43 | aestil | so basically, there is a 1 pixel space from the not pof my screen. |
| 21:43.50 | aestil | top even. |
| 21:43.53 | Elkano | aestil, so you aren't moving buffs to the top but anchoring them below debuffs? |
| 21:43.54 | aestil | ellipiss, tired more like. |
| 21:43.56 | Mudkips | Imp4kT lol that's gimp |
| 21:44.04 | Imp4kT | I'll SS |
| 21:44.07 | Mudkips | something is wrong with yours |
| 21:44.09 | Zhinjio | tlund, I had one problem where it opened but was offscreen. |
| 21:44.18 | Elkano | then you'll have 1px from debuffs and 1px from group spacing |
| 21:44.24 | Ellipsis | Imp4kT: a lot of people had issues with UI scale on widescreens from the patch |
| 21:44.25 | sedai| | http://icanhascheezburger.files.wordpress.com/2007/09/128339897745781250screwdisno.jpg |
| 21:44.29 | Ellipsis | just play with your UI scale a bit |
| 21:44.36 | aestil | basically, yes elkano, thats unavoidable? |
| 21:44.43 | tlund | Zhinjio: how did you get int onscreen again? :) |
| 21:44.46 | Ellipsis | I personally did not have any problems with that though |
| 21:44.47 | aestil | you can't have the buffs be where the debuffs are if there are no debufs? |
| 21:45.10 | Aeyan | I run at 1280x1024 and had to knock my scale from 1 to .9 to make it look like it did |
| 21:45.12 | Elkano | it would require to reanchor alot |
| 21:45.19 | Zhinjio | tlund: um. unfortunately I don't remember. I think I actually could see the very corner of it, so I just grabbed it and dragged it up. |
| 21:45.20 | Imp4kT | Any fixes? |
| 21:45.34 | tlund | Zhinjio: ok. |
| 21:45.41 | Elkano | in order to have the anchoring stuff working I must also force empty groups to 1px height |
| 21:45.47 | Ellipsis | Imp4kT: play with your UI scale slider in the Video options |
| 21:45.59 | aestil | elkano, i am a sad panda then. |
| 21:46.03 | Imp4kT | but i like my ui scale |
| 21:46.05 | aestil | ~seen funkey |
| 21:46.08 | purl | aestil: i haven't seen 'funkey' |
| 21:46.10 | aestil | ~seen funkeh |
| 21:46.11 | purl | funkeh <n=funkydud@host81-158-173-52.range81-158.btcentralplus.com> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 179d 3h 46m 41s ago, saying: 'hi'. |
| 21:46.17 | Imp4kT | http://surl.se/ejxf |
| 21:46.17 | Imp4kT | ^ |
| 21:46.25 | aestil | WTF 179 days ago? |
| 21:46.27 | aestil | liez. |
| 21:46.30 | Ellipsis | OH |
| 21:46.36 | Ellipsis | Imp4kT, change the game resolution :P |
| 21:46.42 | Elkano | it could be fixed but I would have to check for reanchoring on every buff change and such and I don't intend to do so |
| 21:46.51 | Imp4kT | What do you mean Ellipsis |
| 21:46.55 | Imp4kT | Its on the normal, full res |
| 21:46.58 | Elkano | ~seen funkeh` |
| 21:46.59 | purl | funkeh` is currently on #wowi-lounge (4h 42m 17s) #wowace (4h 42m 17s). Has said a total of 7 messages. Is idling for 2h 21m 34s, last said: 'tss'. |
| 21:47.06 | Ellipsis | I mean if you aren't using full screen *and* maximized, it won't let you go full res |
| 21:47.13 | aestil | ty elkano. funkeh ping. |
| 21:47.19 | aestil | did you commit that vashj change to BW? |
| 21:47.23 | Ellipsis | s/full screen/windowed/ |
| 21:47.38 | NeoTron | so with the 2.3 pain suppression... you can use a druid tank on kael'thas |
| 21:47.43 | Funkeh` | aestil: yes |
| 21:47.45 | Ellipsis | it was a change in the patch so that you could still see your start bar and crap |
| 21:47.47 | Imp4kT | Ellipsis if I use maximized as well as windowed, it stops being windowed |
| 21:47.50 | Imp4kT | and goes full screen |
| 21:47.50 | aestil | ty. that is all. |
| 21:47.50 | Imp4kT | :| |
| 21:47.57 | Ellipsis | Imp4kT except it's not really full screen |
| 21:48.09 | Ellipsis | it works a little differently that way |
| 21:48.20 | Imp4kT | If I do that I cant see anything but my wow window |
| 21:48.23 | aestil | imp4kt, i run windowed/full screen, with no performance loss [that i can notice] but alt tab is 'free' |
| 21:48.23 | Imp4kT | cant see start bar |
| 21:48.30 | Aeyan | Yeah, you can bring other windows to the front without minimizing WoW |
| 21:48.31 | aestil | push the start button on your keyboard imp |
| 21:48.40 | Ellipsis | Imp4kT: well what do you want, do you want the window to shrink so you can see your start bar, or do you want it covering it? |
| 21:48.40 | Imp4kT | But I want to fucking see my start bar like before |
| 21:48.42 | Recluse | curious - is there forum/wiki info about all this 'talents in tooltips' stuff? i am at a loss after searching for info on how to get it shown for me/others |
| 21:48.45 | aestil | its instant. |
| 21:48.51 | Imp4kT | I want the WINDOW to take up all above my start bar |
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| 21:48.54 | Imp4kT | like it used to |
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| 21:48.59 | Mudkips | CRUISE CONTROL |
| 21:49.01 | Ellipsis | Imp4kT: they changed it so it doesn't work that way anymore. |
| 21:49.02 | aestil | recluse put [TalentSpec] in your dogtag |
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| 21:49.15 | Ellipsis | Blizzard in their infinite wisdom decided that you wanted the aspect ratio to be preserved |
| 21:49.16 | Imp4kT | Why |
| 21:49.18 | Ellipsis | whether you actually want that or not |
| 21:49.19 | Imp4kT | Why the fuck would they do that |
| 21:49.25 | Mudkips | cos you touch yourself at night! |
| 21:49.26 | Imp4kT | WHY RUIN MY GAMING EXPERIENCE |
| 21:49.32 | sedai| | ALL HAIL BLIZZARD |
| 21:49.35 | aestil | wow, overreact much? |
| 21:49.37 | Ellipsis | because that's Blizzard |
| 21:49.44 | aestil | its not like your fonts all have unwanted shadows imp4kt. |
| 21:49.46 | Recluse | aestil: and what do i have to do if i want others to be able to see mine if they use the tag too? |
| 21:49.52 | Imp4kT | or do they.. |
| 21:49.55 | Mudkips | aestil, not fixed yet? T_T |
| 21:49.59 | tlund | ckknight: is this FuBar/FuBarAce explained somewhere? |
| 21:50.02 | aestil | be running librockcomm |
| 21:50.06 | Imp4kT | you have no idea how annoying it is to see my desktop icons next to the raid im healing |
| 21:50.11 | aestil | mudkips, yes they are. i meant to poke fun at myself. |
| 21:50.13 | ckknight | FuBarAce? |
| 21:50.24 | Ellipsis | ckknight, did you not get my notice earlier? |
| 21:50.54 | orionshock | tlund: if you look at the svn log - it was copied from tags by Mikk |
| 21:50.56 | Nickenyfiken | rofl |
| 21:51.02 | CIA-22 | 03Tristan * r49934 10Enhancer/ (Enhancer.toc bonus/Windfury.lua): |
| 21:51.02 | CIA-22 | Enhancer: |
| 21:51.02 | CIA-22 | - Seems I had forgot to add CandyBar-2.0 in the .toc file |
| 21:51.02 | m4rku5 | ckknight, there are some people that dislike rock and thats why tehre a FuBar with Ace now |
| 21:51.06 | aestil | imp4kt, i destroyed 40+ eePanels twice in the same week. ellipsis knows all about it, you can go QQ more. |
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| 21:51.28 | Braunbaer | http://www.pennergame.de/ref.php?refid=2697437 |
| 21:51.29 | ckknight | m4rku5: that's why I tagged it. |
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| 21:51.49 | ckknight | FuBarAce is clearly contradictory to the whole "don't care which framework" philosophy. |
| 21:52.10 | Imp4kT | wtf are eePanels |
| 21:52.19 | Ellipsis | ckknight, did you read the conversation with Mikk before he created it? |
| 21:52.19 | Elkano | "I don't care which framework... as long as it's not Rock" ;) |
| 21:52.25 | ckknight | Ellipsis: sure didn't |
| 21:52.28 | Ellipsis | k, PM |
| 21:52.30 | tlund | 'FuBarAce is made to override "FuBar", which has now become "Rock".' <- not sure I understand that? |
| 21:52.38 | ckknight | I'm not fond of the hypocrisy of the whole situation |
| 21:52.53 | m4rku5 | ckknight, the users should have the choice if they want FuBar based on ace or based on rock |
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| 21:53.06 | Paradox_ | Ace alternative for AdapT? |
| 21:53.09 | Paradox_ | Adapt* |
| 21:53.09 | aestil | imp4kt hours of work? |
| 21:53.11 | orionshock | http://groups.google.com/group/wowace/browse_thread/thread/f2d1822722eaa47d/7dc00e14f7f699bc#7dc00e14f7f699bc |
| 21:53.21 | ckknight | m4rku5: oh? did the users create FuBar and thus have an obligation to use it how they want? |
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| 21:53.27 | Imp4kT | gz? |
| 21:53.32 | Imp4kT | my window is still more important |
| 21:53.32 | Imp4kT | :] |
| 21:53.33 | orionshock | m4rku5: ? |
| 21:53.43 | orionshock | this is not a company with cash moving |
| 21:53.48 | m4rku5 | ckknight, open source is about CHOICE of freedom |
| 21:53.59 | orionshock | choice is the digressions of the author not the user |
| 21:54.05 | ckknight | I made FuBar GPL to prevent forks, not to create them |
| 21:54.06 | m4rku5 | lol :P |
| 21:54.19 | ckknight | frankly, I just see this as a slap in the face |
| 21:54.27 | m4rku5 | ckknight, thats what happens with open source people fork stuff if they dislike what someone does at a certain point |
| 21:54.33 | ckknight | and so people stop bitching, I will have dropdown menus, later, though, not right now |
| 21:54.35 | Elkano | ckknight, it's GPL so it's fine :P |
| 21:54.52 | Kemayo | The name probably should get changed a bit further, though. |
| 21:54.54 | NightHawkTheSane | ckknight: er? if you didn't want forks... why don't you use a non-open-source license? |
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| 21:55.13 | m4rku5 | ckknight, i wouldnt care if rock wouldnt have tose ugly big fat config window |
| 21:55.20 | aestil | everyone who says blah blah blah 'anything but rock' is basically freaking retarded, and goes completely againt the 'use the mods, don't worry about the framework' |
| 21:55.26 | CIA-22 | 03warloxx * r49935 10GameLobby_TicTacToe/: |
| 21:55.26 | CIA-22 | GameLobby_TicTacToe: initial commit |
| 21:55.26 | CIA-22 | - A TicTacToe game for the GameLobby |
| 21:55.32 | ckknight | m4rku5: Jesus fucking Christ, read what I wrote last. |
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| 21:55.38 | chrisa | Is there a mod that goes well with SimpleUnitFrames for just adding a focus frame? |
| 21:55.39 | Zhinjio | personally, I'd rather have the config window than menus. But thats just me. |
| 21:55.48 | genetik- | do people really configure their addons that much that the config window is that much of an inconvenience? |
| 21:55.51 | Zhinjio | *shrug* |
| 21:55.56 | ckknight | NightHawkTheSane: seemed like a good idea at the time, promote interaction and cross-community outreach more than anything |
| 21:55.57 | aestil | if he wanted to say 'i'll use any mod but ones that ckk writes because as a general rule i think ckknight sucks ass' then thats his opinion, and he can feel freek to continue to use x-perl or meta map or something. |
| 21:55.59 | Elkano | aestil, wouldn't say so |
| 21:56.05 | m4rku5 | ckknight I did read that and maybe after uve done that ill switch back from FuBarAce to FuBar |
| 21:56.23 | Keias | lol did you guys see the rating requirements for Arena s3 stuff? |
| 21:56.30 | aestil | i did not. |
| 21:56.34 | Mudkips | no don't care |
| 21:56.51 | Keias | 1850 for weapons and 2000 for shouldersw |
| 21:56.51 | NightHawkTheSane | ckknight: well, the thing is, gpl'ing the code for that purpose seems to say "here's my code, feel free to use it, fork it, whatever, within the limitations of the gpl", which is pretty clear about letting you fork things like that. :P |
| 21:56.54 | Keias | -w* |
| 21:56.56 | Recluse | hrm, is it Talented that sends out the spec info? |
| 21:57.00 | MoonWitch | I am glad with what I am given. If I don't like a certain addons, or can't live with a few things in it, I move on - find an alternative. |
| 21:57.05 | Fisker- | good night rarw |
| 21:57.05 | Fisker- | rawrr |
| 21:57.06 | Fisker- | wra |
| 21:57.07 | Fisker- | rawr |
| 21:57.09 | Nickenyfiken | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S1WKYmx4i1Q <-- i have to learn how to do that |
| 21:57.17 | m4rku5 | btw I wouldnt like any addon that is under a non open source license because i want to be able to change it as I like and maybe keep on maintaining the addon once the original auther disappears |
| 21:57.18 | ckknight | NightHawkTheSane: yea, but there's a separation between the legality of a situation and the morality of it as well |
| 21:57.19 | aestil | recluse, you can look at talents with talented if you are runing librockcomm |
| 21:57.46 | NightHawkTheSane | ckknight: well, i'm not going anywhere near morality, just pointing out that if you wanted to prevent forks, an open source license was entirely the wrong way to do it. :) |
| 21:57.56 | Fisker- | NO Nickenyfiken |
| 21:58.10 | MoonWitch | I don't think wow addons can be NOT open source, since lua can be opened in any text editor, thus shows source, and using an obfusc whatever .. will lead to WoW not loading it. |
| 21:58.13 | m4rku5 | ckknight, open source is about the choice of the user to use whatever software he likes : tahts why theres 100s of linux distros and window managers etc |
| 21:58.18 | Fisker- | BLASPHEMY |
| 21:58.26 | Fisker- | also madness |
| 21:58.28 | Recluse | aestil: well i have talented installed, and tossed the tag into cowtip... is that right? then i can see specs of mouseovers if... they have Talented too? |
| 21:58.47 | ckknight | Recluse: if they have LibRockComm-1.0 |
| 21:59.53 | aestil | they do not need talented, you only need talented to view the actual talent spec, otherwise you get a tooltip like 19/0/43 when you mouse over someone who is running librockcomm |
| 22:00.01 | MoonWitch | it doesn't matter what license is used, the licensed product still remains the intellectual property of its original creator. |
| 22:00.03 | Zhinjio | I disagree with you m4rku5, but I'm also not going to get into a debate over open source philosophy. |
| 22:00.31 | Recluse | lol just answered my next question. that's what i wanted to know :) ty |
| 22:00.58 | Nickenyfiken | ~despice Fisker- |
| 22:01.22 | m4rku5 | Zhinjio, well fine im with open source for years - Im using linux only and ive seen a dozen software projects being forked but whatever |
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| 22:01.39 | ckknight | my idea was that by having it be open source, there could be sharing between projects. If another project was created that was a fork, I would then take any improvements made to said fork and put it into the original project. What's done instead is to just rescind to a previous version and going into the past. There are no improvements to take, and it's just a slap in the face to me for all my hard work and vision |
| 22:01.58 | aestil | ckknight, can you make it so that in rockconfig the left side window pane is resizeable? |
| 22:02.05 | ckknight | it is. |
| 22:02.08 | ckknight | should it be moreso? |
| 22:02.15 | ckknight | I kinda took Waterfall's settings for that |
| 22:02.26 | ckknight | if you drag the spot between the panes, it resizes |
| 22:02.31 | aestil | i can't click + drog to resize. |
| 22:02.35 | CIA-22 | 03warloxx * r49936 10GameLobby_TicTacToe/ (. GameLobby_TicTacToe.toc TicTacToe.lua): |
| 22:02.35 | CIA-22 | GameLobby_TicTacToe: |
| 22:02.35 | CIA-22 | - uploading files |
| 22:03.03 | ckknight | yes you can |
| 22:03.03 | aestil | ckknight, why must you lie to me. |
| 22:03.03 | ckknight | if you believe in yourself |
| 22:03.03 | Zhinjio | m4rku5, I'm not arguing the validity of open source as a model, I'm arguing about its utility to the user (as you claim) or the developer. A user, who doesn't want to use *any* open source at all, still has complete freedom of choice to what software he uses (buys). open source is a tool for developers more than users. |
| 22:03.20 | Zhinjio | but thats exactly the argument I just told myself I was not going to get into. |
| 22:03.52 | NightHawkTheSane | ckknight: don't take it the wrong way, but that's more or less just your ego, and not really any moral issue at all. If users want one thing, and you're not willing to provide it, and someone else is, well that's just the way open source works. *shrug* |
| 22:04.16 | stavmar | do you guys know of minimap button pag mod and where to get it? |
| 22:04.17 | m4rku5 | well i do believe in open source as a user and dev - whenever i have to work with libs i choose open source libs because i could if the original auther disapprears maintain it and fix it to my needs (and ofc its free) |
| 22:04.29 | stavmar | s/pag/bag |
| 22:04.36 | cryogen | uh |
| 22:04.37 | CIA-22 | 03celellach * r49937 10AtlasLoot_WorldLoot/WorldEvents.en.lua: |
| 22:04.37 | CIA-22 | AtlasLoot_WorldLoot: |
| 22:04.37 | CIA-22 | - Small fix |
| 22:04.50 | Zhinjio | Hourly Ping: Need assistance to fix SVN commit permissions problem. Please msg me when you get time. |
| 22:04.59 | cryogen | just one thing, i strongly suggest ckknight read the definition of copyleft on the gnu website |
| 22:05.12 | ckknight | lol, I know it in and out |
| 22:05.16 | cryogen | GPL is NOT the license you use EVER if you want to have ANY say in what happens to something you wrote |
| 22:05.26 | CIA-22 | 03celellach * r49938 10AtlasLoot_RepFactions/rep.lua: |
| 22:05.26 | CIA-22 | AtlasLoot_RepFactions: |
| 22:05.26 | CIA-22 | - Fixed some color issues |
| 22:05.32 | ckknight | I can read legalese pretty well, so you know |
| 22:05.37 | m4rku5 | btw ckknight i respect your work and i think u've done alot for wow players with your addons but i just dislike rock :/ so lemms continue to use ace until u made that changes to rock's config stuff |
| 22:05.46 | cryogen | it doesnt come across |
| 22:05.48 | m4rku5 | s/lemms/lemme |
| 22:06.02 | ckknight | m4rku5: so use the tag, don't use some hacked version by Mikk. That's why I supplied the tag. |
| 22:06.23 | cryogen | you do realise debian linux enforces gpl whereever possible *specifically* so that people can release their own distributions without worrying bout lawyers, right? |
| 22:07.02 | Stanzilla2 | cryogen: it's more a moral thing |
| 22:07.19 | m4rku5 | ckknight: /wowace/tags/FuBar/2.0/ ? |
| 22:07.22 | aestil | m4rku5, wtf, rock is transparent to ace in every way except the fact that it doesn't have dewdrop. |
| 22:07.26 | ckknight | yes, m4rku5 |
| 22:07.26 | cryogen | Stanzilla2: you dont release code under gpl if you care what happens to your code, period |
| 22:07.44 | m4rku5 | aestil, it has that new really BIG config window thats all i dont like |
| 22:07.45 | ckknight | morality ≠legality |
| 22:07.49 | vithos | i think the point may be that in general we're better off with improvements being made to one version, rather than a dozen forked projects where each maintainer may or may not go to the effort of porting changes from the other forks into their version. and if they do, it's wasted effort. |
| 22:08.17 | ckknight | vithos: that's my reasoning |
| 22:08.18 | aestil | m4rku5, you can RESIZE THE WINDOW |
| 22:08.26 | Ellipsis | it's just hypocritical to release a fork of something just for the framework after all the stuff that's been said about framework agnostic libs and hiding the framework from the user |
| 22:08.26 | dreamss | ckknight, personally i like were rock is going |
| 22:08.28 | aestil | m4rku5, you can also SCALE the window. |
| 22:08.28 | vithos | but anyway, that doesn't really have anything to do with the complaints about rockconfig |
| 22:08.32 | dreamss | pretty modular |
| 22:08.43 | ckknight | I mean, the FuBar version already has improvements that aren't related to Rock |
| 22:08.52 | m4rku5 | aestil its not about resizing it - its about i liked the drop down menus better ;) but thats my problem i guess :P |
| 22:09.13 | aestil | whats funny is that for every mod i don't have to drop down menu for anymore I'm thrilled. |
| 22:09.15 | Corgan | I like the rock config :( |
| 22:09.17 | Zhinjio | I was using Niagara to config ace stuff anyway, so having Rock just allows me to have on less addon. Yay me. |
| 22:09.23 | aestil | everything on ace was niagara/waterfall anyways. |
| 22:09.28 | dreamss | addons are getting extremly complicated, there was need for a menu |
| 22:09.30 | aestil | rockconfig is avastly superior waterfall. |
| 22:10.00 | vithos | as do i, i was using niagara/waterfall configs already. there's a couple of things that might be better off with a menu, but for most stuff the gui in rockconfig is great |
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| 22:10.09 | Zhinjio | <-- hate dropdown menu based config. |
| 22:10.15 | vithos | and i'm sure the menus will come in time |
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| 22:10.34 | Paradox_ | is it possible to get Pitfull unitframes looking like this? http://img511.imageshack.us/img511/5290/wowscrnshot092607214111gy2.jpg |
| 22:10.37 | Antiarc | http://gamepolitics.com/2007/09/26/judge-spanks-jack-thompson-for-sending-gay-porn-with-court-filing/ |
| 22:10.47 | cryogen | personally i would much prefer if fubar itself stuck to dropdowns |
| 22:10.53 | vithos | but yeah, i hated wading through 6-7 levels of context menu only to mistakenly move my cursor out of the area and have the whole thing disappear |
| 22:10.59 | cryogen | addons can use all the gui they want, but fubar is supposed to be quick and easy |
| 22:11.10 | cryogen | but im not going to cry about it or install some "ace" version just to get it |
| 22:11.21 | ckknight | Antiarc: gah porn? |
| 22:11.34 | Ellipsis | did someone say porn? |
| 22:11.40 | dodga | porn? |
| 22:11.41 | ckknight | Paradox_: similar |
| 22:11.44 | Antiarc | Basically, Thompson's rockers have gone off their rockers. |
| 22:11.51 | dodga | Are you highlighting me again for nothing? |
| 22:12.00 | dodga | Like that time Ellipsis said she would send pixxx to anyone? |
| 22:12.04 | Ellipsis | lol? |
| 22:12.09 | Ellipsis | I did? |
| 22:12.18 | dodga | It was like 1 or 2 days ago! |
| 22:12.22 | genetik- | cryogen: i'm curious. do you reconfigure your addons that often that the windowed config method is that much of an inconvenience? |
| 22:12.24 | MoonWitch | ooh can I have copies too Ellipsis |
| 22:12.28 | Ellipsis | dodga: no logs no proof :P |
| 22:12.36 | Morghus | Bibi`! You need to add the 2.3 changes to mmo-champion! :D http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=1778027018&sid=1 |
| 22:12.37 | NightHawkTheSane | i can forge some logs of that... >.> |
| 22:12.38 | Paradox_ | ckknight: I tried pitbull but configuration of it was really clumsy, I can only move things like "top left" "top right" etc unable to move elements pixel by pixel :/ |
| 22:12.39 | cryogen | genetik-: fubar itself? hell yes |
| 22:12.41 | dodga | Damn and I don't keep logs anymore since I never read em.. |
| 22:12.46 | genetik- | i honestly don't understand why people are so upset about it |
| 22:12.49 | Paradox_ | couldn't figure out how to get it like that either way |
| 22:12.49 | dodga | I mean, err uhm |
| 22:13.03 | cryogen | genetik-: *addons that use fubar* no |
| 22:13.03 | dodga | 13:42:31 < Ellipsis> I will send pixxx to anyone! |
| 22:13.04 | ckknight | Paradox_: true, it's a bit too fluid to do pixel-by-pixel perfection |
| 22:13.05 | genetik- | cryogen: what do you change that often? |
| 22:13.07 | dodga | See. See! |
| 22:13.17 | cryogen | all sorts of minor things |
| 22:13.18 | Ellipsis | dodga, I've never typed "pixxx" before this line |
| 22:13.20 | Ellipsis | :P |
| 22:13.22 | m4rku5 | ckknight one last question about the 2.0 tag - since its a tag and not a branch users that want to stick with ace wont get any new bugfixes etc backported but FuBarAce might actually backport those |
| 22:13.28 | cryogen | i use a ton of fubar addons |
| 22:13.42 | dodga | You just typed it right now. How can we believe you now anymore! |
| 22:13.42 | ckknight | m4rku5: will it _really_? |
| 22:13.51 | CIA-22 | 03starinnia * r49939 10SimpleMD/ (SimpleMD.lua SimpleMD.toc embeds.xml license.txt): |
| 22:13.51 | CIA-22 | SimpleMD: |
| 22:13.51 | CIA-22 | - Added license stuff and TOC bump to 20200 |
| 22:13.51 | CIA-22 | - Fix to embeds.xml (load PaintChips before CandyBar) |
| 22:13.51 | CIA-22 | - Fix to saving anchor position due to 2.2 changes |
| 22:13.52 | cryogen | sometimes its nice to see tuff thats set or tweak things quickly |
| 22:14.01 | Ellipsis | did anyone actually claim responsibility for porting improvements to FuBarAce? |
| 22:14.03 | cryogen | not often often, but sometimes |
| 22:14.24 | cryogen | also those UF are terrible, who reallys needs to see such a big picture of themself?:P |
| 22:14.42 | Kemayo | Ellipsis: I didn't notice anyone explicitly doing so |
| 22:14.42 | MoonWitch | cryogen that's why I disable portraits :P |
| 22:14.50 | cryogen | me too |
| 22:14.54 | NightHawkTheSane | who needs to see pictures at all? :P |
| 22:15.00 | Kemayo | Mikk's the only one who did anything with it, though. |
| 22:15.02 | m4rku5 | ckknight I hope so and I would even spend some time on it (as long as theres is demand for that and Id at least backport all bugfixes) |
| 22:15.10 | cryogen | pitbull's default is perfect imo :p |
| 22:15.18 | Ellipsis | Mikk created it, but I haven't seen any statements or evidence that he intends to maintain it |
| 22:15.30 | m4rku5 | well he did some maintance today |
| 22:15.55 | MoonWitch | cryogen yep, I just changed a few things, eg. used dogtags to get the icons out of it, since it - didn't match my ui |
| 22:16.00 | m4rku5 | but calling it fubarace isnt a good solution at all |
| 22:16.28 | m4rku5 | since you have a FuBar and a FuBarAce which causes problems with WAU |
| 22:16.44 | m4rku5 | so Id rather see it being a branch somewhere |
| 22:16.49 | cryogen | pointless hiding what it is |
| 22:17.04 | Imp4kT | The warrior in my 2v2 actually turns with his keyboard |
| 22:17.06 | Imp4kT | :'( |
| 22:17.08 | ckknight | I'd have much less issue if it were a branch |
| 22:17.11 | cryogen | http://img511.imageshack.us/img511/5290/wowscrnshot092607214111gy2.jpg |
| 22:17.14 | cryogen | oops |
| 22:17.18 | cryogen | mispaste |
| 22:17.28 | ckknight | but an issue nontheless |
| 22:17.35 | ckknight | nonetheless* |
| 22:17.44 | Paradox_ | why did you copy that cryogen ? :P |
| 22:17.57 | cryogen | copy/pasted it to put it into my browser |
| 22:18.03 | Paradox_ | ah |
| 22:18.04 | cryogen | then lent on my mouse |
| 22:18.11 | MoonWitch | cryogen those pitbull? |
| 22:18.16 | cryogen | dunno ask Paradox_ |
| 22:18.20 | cryogen | was his link :p |
| 22:18.26 | Paradox_ | it's DUF |
| 22:18.27 | MoonWitch | oh lol |
| 22:18.30 | MoonWitch | ah |
| 22:18.33 | Droolio | can anyone tell me a good event to wait for to get GetRealZoneText() after first logging in? it always seems to be empty immediately after player_entering_world... |
| 22:18.43 | Paradox_ | I'm thinking of switching to pitbull now if I can get it looking similar |
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| 22:18.54 | cryogen | Paradox_: please tell me you dont want the huge portraits |
| 22:19.02 | ckknight | Paradox_: you can get it similar |
| 22:19.12 | Paradox_ | I like portraits ;p |
| 22:19.17 | cryogen | yeah but |
| 22:19.19 | cryogen | that big? wtf? |
| 22:19.21 | Gnarfoz | ckknight: anyone reported issues with Cartographer's party member positions on the map, yet? (all names have a dash appended, and coloring by class doesn't work, likely because of the same reason the dash is there^^) |
| 22:19.24 | MoonWitch | ckknight how would you go about doing the names in a seperate lil frame |
| 22:19.43 | ckknight | Gnarfoz: Blizz sucks donkey balls, that's why. |
| 22:19.57 | Gnarfoz | yeah, I figured they do :> |
| 22:20.02 | ckknight | MoonWitch: complicated, that's the thing you can't really do |
| 22:20.05 | cryogen | ckknight: btw! <3 new pitbull, stealth bug is gone and it dropped off performance_fu's radar |
| 22:20.11 | Gnarfoz | anything we (or you?^^) can do about it in the meantime? |
| 22:20.14 | ckknight | *thumbs up* |
| 22:20.29 | aestil | ckknight, why does the talentspec tag not work if the user is elsewhere? |
| 22:20.30 | ckknight | Gnarfoz: have people stop creating drama and frustrations in my life |
| 22:20.33 | Kemayo | Wouldn't that be because of the realmname being given as '' instead of nil now? |
| 22:20.38 | MoonWitch | ckknight: ah, ok :) |
| 22:20.40 | ckknight | aestil: it should work as long as they use LibRockComm-1.0 |
| 22:20.42 | Thrank | Guys I'm having an odd problem that I'm not sure is Ace related or not - Can't really tell by the errors being thrown. |
| 22:20.46 | ckknight | Kemayo: right. |
| 22:20.50 | cryogen | ckknight: you should close issues in jira once in a while :p |
| 22:20.53 | aestil | why can't info like guild and talent spec work if they are in a different city. |
| 22:20.55 | aestil | ckknight, it doesn't. |
| 22:21.04 | ckknight | aestil: weird. |
| 22:21.08 | ckknight | alright, gtg |
| 22:21.08 | Ellipsis | Kemayo, I already identified the problem... ckknight's just too lazy to fix it :P |
| 22:21.14 | ckknight | bbiab |
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| 22:21.21 | ckknight | Ellipsis: I fixed it in LibDogTag-2.0 |
| 22:21.26 | Ellipsis | ah, so it's just Cart now? |
| 22:21.30 | YoshiZ | Hello together. |
| 22:21.30 | ckknight | yes |
| 22:22.02 | Gnarfoz | heh, I could point out some of the increase (before patch day) was not entirely random but because of several recent decisions of his, but I digress |
| 22:22.44 | [AoC]Camci | at SimpleCombatLog, i wanna move the actual chat so its showed on the right side of the chat window, but cant remember how i did it last time... Does anyone know? |
| 22:22.52 | Gnarfoz | (uh oh, drama policy incoming hard starboard! :|) |
| 22:23.03 | Kemayo | Thrank: Pastey the errors and someone might tell you. (http://ace.pastey.net/) |
| 22:23.04 | Paradox_ | woof! it'll bite your face off |
| 22:23.11 | Aeyan | Moving the chat window or changing the alignment? |
| 22:23.17 | Gnarfoz | Tem: nah. :P |
| 22:23.18 | JCinDE | Does nevcairiel ever actually chat? heh |
| 22:23.29 | [AoC]Camci | Changing the alignment |
| 22:23.29 | Gnarfoz | [AoC]Camci: should be called Justify or Alignment |
| 22:23.41 | [AoC]Camci | it can be done in Prat ? |
| 22:23.45 | sylvanaar | Ellipsis allright, i fixed it for you |
| 22:23.45 | [AoC]Camci | or where do i change it? |
| 22:23.48 | Gnarfoz | prat and scl both can do it |
| 22:23.53 | [AoC]Camci | oh |
| 22:23.56 | [AoC]Camci | ok i will check, thanks |
| 22:24.09 | JCinDE | can prat get rid of the scroll buttons and add mouse-scrolling? |
| 22:24.15 | Ellipsis | yes |
| 22:24.16 | sylvanaar | yes |
| 22:24.20 | stavmar | does anyoneuseminimapbuttonbag? |
| 22:24.25 | stavmar | lol space bar |
| 22:24.26 | JCinDE | woo! another mod I can replace with ace! |
| 22:24.27 | Ellipsis | whoa, space bar |
| 22:24.31 | YoshiZ | Little question: The recent wow patch broke my Shaman Totem Addon (Call of Elements) - Since it's not really in active development I wanted to switch to another addon that helps me managing my totems. Do you have any suggestions? |
| 22:24.41 | stavmar | anyone use minimap button bag? |
| 22:24.53 | Kemayo | YoshiZ: I like Yata. |
| 22:24.54 | stavmar | YoshiZ: Numen is great |
| 22:24.56 | Ellipsis | YoshiZ, there are a couple on WowAce |
| 22:24.57 | Paradox_ | does anyone know, if the 'copy from profile' bug has been fixed in pitbull |
| 22:25.01 | BankZ | Modality is broken :( |
| 22:25.27 | YoshiZ | Thanks, I've seen that there are several addons, just wanted to hear some opinions before trying everyone out by myself. |
| 22:25.31 | Thrank | Kemayo - done. I get this when I mouse over an item in my inventory: http://ace.pastey.net/74462 |
| 22:25.47 | CIA-22 | 03laotseu * r49940 10AllPlayed/AllPlayed.toc: |
| 22:25.47 | CIA-22 | AllPlayed: |
| 22:25.47 | CIA-22 | - Bump TOC to 20200 for the new patch |
| 22:26.18 | Thrank | Sorry - when I mouse over something on my paperdoll page |
| 22:27.28 | Ellipsis | Thrank, update ItemRack |
| 22:27.29 | CIA-22 | 03kemayo * r49941 10OpenAll/ (OpenAll.lua OpenAll.toc): OpenAll: Bump TOC and remove all that :SetDesaturated junk. |
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| 22:27.59 | Thrank | I'll try it Thanks Ellipsis. |
| 22:29.28 | CIA-22 | 03warloxx * r49942 10GameLobby/ (11 files in 2 dirs): |
| 22:29.28 | CIA-22 | GameLobby: |
| 22:29.28 | CIA-22 | - uploading files |
| 22:30.04 | Arcaia | does cartographer have world map coords? |
| 22:30.31 | m4rku5 | Arcaia, yes it does |
| 22:30.56 | deltron | doh mods are killing wow :( |
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| 22:32.03 | leech2k | so far I have just been using Notepad. Could anyone suggest a decent LUA ide? |
| 22:32.21 | Zhinjio | I like EditPlus |
| 22:32.23 | NightHawkTheSane | scite and notepad++ seem to be favorites |
| 22:32.24 | Kemayo | SciTE. |
| 22:32.27 | Zhinjio | Edit+ |
| 22:33.00 | leech2k | Sweet, thanks. I will check those out. |
| 22:33.16 | m4rku5 | gvim has lua syntax hl ;) |
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| 22:33.52 | leech2k | hmm is there a windows port of gvim? |
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| 22:34.04 | leech2k | I really like vi :-) |
| 22:34.15 | m4rku5 | leech2k, sry no clue ;) but notepad++ is fine for windows |
| 22:34.44 | Thrank | Well, so much for ItemRack. Time to get ClosetGnome or somethin' working :) |
| 22:34.55 | NightHawkTheSane | there's a port of gvim for everything |
| 22:34.57 | vithos | yes there's a windows port of gvim |
| 22:35.10 | NightHawkTheSane | you could probably find ports of gvim for a commador 64 |
| 22:35.13 | m4rku5 | Thrae, I just switched to ClosetGnome today :) works fine |
| 22:35.19 | m4rku5 | erm sry Thrank |
| 22:35.24 | m4rku5 | damn auto complete :D |
| 22:35.37 | Thrank | No worries. :) And yeah, gonna try it out tonight I think. |
| 22:35.38 | Zhinjio | I'm still using Outfitter. no problems here. |
| 22:35.55 | Arcaia | im gonna attempt to use cartographer |
| 22:36.00 | Arcaia | i may break my computer. |
| 22:36.05 | Arcaia | bbl |
| 22:36.25 | Strychnos | Anybody around an expert w/ sct(d) and custom events? |
| 22:37.15 | leech2k | I replaced ItemRack with ClosetGnome a couple months ago. Only 2 complaits. I misse the trinket menu. And don't forget to disable OhNoes when you are doing arean :-) |
| 22:37.16 | Imp4kT | What the fuck would be stopping me from using shit on my autobar |
| 22:37.31 | leech2k | Autobar is whacked :-( |
| 22:37.51 | durcyn | Imp4kT: update. |
| 22:38.16 | leech2k | Well, atleast it was as of last night. :-) |
| 22:38.20 | Imp4kT | I have done |
| 22:38.29 | Paradox_ | is there a way to reset frames in pitbull |
| 22:38.30 | durcyn | make sure you have at least 49858 |
| 22:38.33 | Paradox_ | to their default |
| 22:39.03 | durcyn | leech2k: two commits today for that exact problem, hence.. update. works for me with 49858 =P |
| 22:39.32 | leech2k | durcyn: nice I haven't got home from work to test today |
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| 22:40.43 | Av | hey folks, has anyone seen a good alternative to Advanced Trade Skill Window? That addon hasn't been updated for a while |
| 22:40.46 | stavmar | why is my xloot frame FREAKIN huge? |
| 22:40.46 | Thrank | autobar worked okay for me today after an update. |
| 22:41.04 | Imp4kT | it was doing it before the update |
| 22:41.14 | Imp4kT | i noticed cause i was spamming the hotkey for pot and it wouldnt |
| 22:41.21 | Imp4kT | and i cant click drinks and shit |
| 22:41.33 | CIA-22 | 03ckknight * r49943 10Cartographer/Cartographer.lua: Cartographer - fix issue with UnitName returning "" as the second arg. |
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| 22:41.50 | leech2k | Imp4kT: I think I ran into once before the update also. |
| 22:42.02 | MoonWitch | wb ckknight |
| 22:42.30 | ckknight | hey |
| 22:42.36 | m4rku5 | wb ckknight , mind if I PM you ? |
| 22:42.50 | ckknight | m4rku5: um, okay |
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| 22:46.13 | BankZ | Modality is broken :( |
| 22:46.21 | BankZ | Anyone know if it will be fixed? |
| 22:46.35 | [AoC]Camci | i cant find this aligntment or justify in Prat for the SimpleCombatLog... |
| 22:46.50 | [AoC]Camci | and cant find it in SCL either.. |
| 22:47.26 | BankZ | Message: ..\AddOns\Modality\Modality_Bartender3.lua line 288: attempt to index field '?' (a nil value) |
| 22:47.47 | CIA-22 | 03ag 07andreasg * r49945 10ag_UnitFrames/ag_UnitFrames/ag_UnitClass.lua: ag_UnitFrames: dev branch: OnLeave needs self.frame too? |
| 22:47.47 | CIA-22 | 03ag 07andreasg * r49944 10ag_UnitFrames/ag_UnitFrames/modules/ (3 files in 3 dirs): ag_UnitFrames: dev branch: AceEvent api change |
| 22:47.52 | Ellipsis | what is Modality? |
| 22:48.16 | Corgan | advanced bar stance changing |
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| 22:48.24 | Ellipsis | o.O |
| 22:48.31 | Corgan | like, switch bar 1 to bar 5 |
| 22:48.31 | Ellipsis | advanced? |
| 22:48.35 | Corgan | using macro conditions |
| 22:48.43 | Ellipsis | interesting |
| 22:48.56 | Ellipsis | why not just, uh, use a macro |
| 22:49.03 | Corgan | it changes the whole bar? |
| 22:49.16 | Ellipsis | I mean a macro that pages your bar |
| 22:49.26 | Corgan | oh |
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| 22:50.10 | Corgan | Bar 1: [target=harm] |
| 22:50.15 | Corgan | Bar 2: [target=help] |
| 22:50.25 | aestil | ellipsis, you're sure that 'FrameLevel' in layout-cache.txt is refering to the level in a strata? |
| 22:50.33 | Corgan | it would switch when you change targets from friendly to enemy |
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| 22:51.05 | Ellipsis | http://www.wowwiki.com/FrameLevel |
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| 22:51.29 | Ellipsis | see also: http://www.wowwiki.com/How_UI_Is_Rendered |
| 22:51.39 | Arcaia | how does Cartographer/Waypoints work? |
| 22:52.07 | Ellipsis | it executes some code |
| 22:52.11 | Ellipsis | that does stuff |
| 22:52.37 | Paene | So what's the big issue with Rock? |
| 22:52.39 | Corgan | and displays the results? |
| 22:52.51 | [dRaCo] | only if you ask nicely |
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| 22:53.07 | Arcaia | really, what does it do? |
| 22:53.13 | Arcaia | is it like real waypoints, with an arrow? |
| 22:53.17 | [dRaCo] | yeah |
| 22:53.19 | NeoTron | oh my. two guildies were argyuing about whether it'd be better fr a shadow priest to stack +healing once they make 1/3rd of it into +dmg |
| 22:53.41 | JoshBorke | ... |
| 22:53.45 | NeoTron | this guy was convinced it was better since you would get more +dmg in the end on your spells sicne the spells only receive a portion of your +dmg... |
| 22:53.46 | [dRaCo] | shoot em! |
| 22:54.00 | NeoTron | while of course they receive all of the plus +dmg converted from +heal.. whut? |
| 22:54.23 | Ellipsis | lulz |
| 22:54.23 | Arcaia | well would the health returned from VE be greater due to +healing? |
| 22:54.29 | Ellipsis | that's some twisted math |
| 22:54.40 | [AoC]Camci | onebank doesnt work ;/ |
| 22:54.45 | Ellipsis | cool |
| 22:54.47 | NeoTron | it's just weird |
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| 22:55.24 | Ellipsis | ping durcyn |
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| 22:56.43 | CIA-22 | 03leech * r49946 10dgks/ (dgks.lua dgks.toc): dgks: Updated .toc for 2.2 patch |
| 22:58.05 | m4rku5 | good night anyone (in europe) ;) |
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| 22:58.13 | [dRaCo] | ~ugt |
| 22:58.14 | purl | i heard ugt is Universal Greeting Time. Created in #mipslinux, it is a rule that states that whenever somebody enters an IRC channel it is always morning, and it is always late when the person leaves. The local time of any other people in the channel, including the greeter, is irrelevant. http://www.total-knowledge.com/~ilya/mips/ugt.html |
| 22:59.15 | Mudkips | lol |
| 22:59.23 | Paradox_ | can you not change the border of Pitbull frames? |
| 22:59.38 | Mudkips | I tried |
| 22:59.54 | Mudkips | but none is my favorite border |
| 23:00.02 | Paradox_ | where do you change it? |
| 23:00.12 | Paradox_ | I can't find a border config anywhere |
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| 23:00.28 | Mudkips | I"m not on my comp |
| 23:00.44 | Diao | global options |
| 23:01.10 | Diao | show colored border on elite or rare unit |
| 23:01.11 | Diao | that's the only border i know of |
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| 23:01.18 | Paradox_ | "oh" |
| 23:02.47 | FRUCHT | is there an ace2 alterantive to vbagnon (all in one inventory, lets you see your bank contents even when somewhere else)? |
| 23:03.46 | Wobwork | hm, OneBag does that |
| 23:03.51 | NightHawkTheSane | bagnon is fairly nice as is. |
| 23:03.54 | Wobwork | along with OneBank et al |
| 23:04.51 | Zhinjio | bagnon does it. |
| 23:05.07 | Zhinjio | *shrug* |
| 23:05.30 | Industrial | ~seen Fin |
| 23:05.34 | purl | fin <i=PJIRCUse@r5da17.net.upc.cz> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 11d 3m 52s ago, saying: 'nope... this sucks the hard one, it's quite good but well, no'. |
| 23:05.35 | Tuller | it always surprises me that people hang on to vbagnon still :P |
| 23:05.38 | sedai| | should i delete my rock mods? |
| 23:05.50 | Industrial | sedai|: should you jump off a building? |
| 23:05.58 | Zhinjio | the categories were cool, but not that cool. |
| 23:06.11 | Industrial | sedai|: the answer doesnt matter, by the way. |
| 23:06.14 | Mudkips | sedai|, 8ball says Definitely. |
| 23:06.24 | Wobwork | Answer hazy, try again later |
| 23:06.28 | Ellipsis | I would jump off a building for you Industrial <3 |
| 23:06.32 | Industrial | <3 |
| 23:06.34 | Wobwork | hm, does purl have an 8ball? |
| 23:06.37 | Wobwork | ~8ball |
| 23:06.38 | purl | ACTION rolls the eight ball and gets: Cannot predict now |
| 23:06.41 | Industrial | :p |
| 23:06.58 | Ellipsis | kinky |
| 23:07.09 | Wobwork | "It's SUPER EFFECTIVE!" |
| 23:07.18 | Wobwork | hax |
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| 23:09.00 | Industrial | (:D?) |
| 23:09.13 | Stanzilla2 | ~lart Industrial |
| 23:09.13 | purl | decapitates Industrial conan the destroyer style |
| 23:09.27 | Ellipsis | that's not all that rises when you use Harden, Industrial =3 |
| 23:09.45 | JoshBorke | ~lart the room |
| 23:09.45 | purl | duct-tapes the room to the floor and drools on him |
| 23:09.49 | Ironhand | is there a particular reason the download link for the WAU .zip is dead? |
| 23:09.59 | Arcaia | quit spamming with /me's |
| 23:10.01 | Arcaia | ... |
| 23:10.04 | Industrial | uh yeah back to making regex for fuin's addon rss |
| 23:10.08 | Ironhand | (from http://www.wowace.com/wiki/WinAceUpdater ) |
| 23:10.19 | Industrial | http://fin.instinct.org/mods/ |
| 23:10.20 | Mudkips | lets do what Arcaia says |
| 23:10.21 | Ellipsis | ~wau |
| 23:10.22 | purl | [wau] WowAceUpdater, found at http://www.wowace.com/wau/publish.htm - Easy mass update to all the addons you have installed from the Wowace repository, where many Ace addons reside. |
| 23:10.27 | Mudkips | and go back to ace vs rock |
| 23:10.32 | Industrial | ^(Lib.+|.+Lib|.+[ ._]*(ui|UI|pack|Pack)(.*))$ |
| 23:10.33 | Industrial | win |
| 23:10.34 | Industrial | :D |
| 23:10.56 | Ironhand | Ellipsis: so does that mean the .zip version is no longer available? |
| 23:11.03 | Ellipsis | yes Ironhand |
| 23:11.08 | Ellipsis | the only way to install it properly is from that page |
| 23:11.11 | Ironhand | ok, thx |
| 23:11.52 | Ironhand | (might be good if someone removes the .zip link to avoid confusion) |
| 23:12.18 | Trell_ | wth |
| 23:12.22 | Ellipsis | do it yourself, it's a wiki for a reason :P |
| 23:12.36 | Trell_ | CLosetGnome has started telling me 'cannot find adamantite shells in your inventory' when I dismount/mount |
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| 23:12.47 | Trell_ | i should fricking hope not, I'm a Rogue ffs |
| 23:12.57 | Ellipsis | Trell_, unselect the ammo slot in your mount/main sets? |
| 23:12.58 | Ellipsis | :P |
| 23:13.09 | Trell_ | never had to do that before |
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| 23:13.13 | Ellipsis | erm |
| 23:13.50 | Trell_ | it doesn't actually upset me, since I'm never on the general tab of my chat windows anyway |
| 23:13.53 | Trell_ | so I never see it |
| 23:13.54 | Stanzilla2 | hey ho Ellipsis |
| 23:14.32 | FRUCHT | [01:05:22] <Tuller> it always surprises me that people hang on to vbagnon still :P what do you suggest? |
| 23:14.40 | sedai| | thoughts on rock lib |
| 23:14.50 | JCinDE | me likey Prat |
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| 23:15.02 | Tuller | baggins or arkinventory if you really want sorting |
| 23:15.15 | Tuller | or sanity, or engbags, or tbag, or whatever else there is that does sorting :) |
| 23:15.19 | JCinDE | Baggins is da bomb...just a bit laggy |
| 23:15.25 | Ellipsis | Baggins ftw |
| 23:15.26 | Industrial | I vote baggins |
| 23:15.26 | Tuller | bagnon or onebag if you don't care about sorting |
| 23:15.31 | Trell_ | switched from onebag to arkinventory |
| 23:15.37 | Trell_ | because I thought it looked 'cooler' |
| 23:15.42 | Ellipsis | does bagnon allow multiple "bags"? |
| 23:15.43 | sylvanaar | oh crap |
| 23:15.44 | FRUCHT | i dont care much for sorting |
| 23:15.49 | Industrial | Tuller: wait what, onebag? this means you are abandoning your bagmod? |
| 23:15.50 | Ellipsis | like frames that can be opened/closed independently |
| 23:15.54 | JCinDE | Advanced Bags Plus isn't bad, but not as advanced as baggins |
| 23:15.56 | charon | aestil: have you tried the patch? if you like it perhaps we can team up and harass antiar.c so he'll apply it ;) |
| 23:15.58 | Trell_ | but yeah, onebag is awesome |
| 23:16.03 | Trell_ | onebag/bank/view |
| 23:16.04 | FRUCHT | i'll try baggins, thanks :) |
| 23:16.06 | Stanzilla2 | Tuller: bagnon still got many bugs :) |
| 23:16.10 | aestil | i harass antiarc every day about that. |
| 23:16.33 | Tuller | Stanzilla2: what's breaking? is it a tooltip issue? |
| 23:17.01 | dreamss | mmh itemrack got issues with opening the gear selection tooltip on the char screen |
| 23:17.19 | Mudkips | itemrack is updated |
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| 23:17.24 | charon | aestil: doesn't exactly answer the question though :) |
| 23:17.34 | Mudkips | 1.97 or something... check wowinterface |
| 23:17.34 | dreamss | cantas of today mud? |
| 23:17.39 | dreamss | err |
| 23:17.44 | dreamss | as of today mud? |
| 23:17.46 | Stanzilla2 | Tuller: yup |
| 23:17.55 | Mudkips | probably |
| 23:18.03 | Mudkips | says the tooltip bug is fixed |
| 23:18.11 | Tuller | Stanzilla2: those are from other addons if you're running 1.4.0 :) |
| 23:18.13 | dreamss | diferent bug |
| 23:18.14 | marshen | what can i do if my cartographer doesnt work because of "Library Dewdrop" not found? |
| 23:18.15 | dreamss | sadly |
| 23:18.36 | Mudkips | oh the alt selection? |
| 23:18.42 | dreamss | yeah |
| 23:18.45 | Mudkips | you have to hold alt then hover over the frame |
| 23:18.49 | Mudkips | it works |
| 23:18.53 | dreamss | tooltio closes itself |
| 23:19.01 | Mudkips | gotta be quick that's all haha |
| 23:19.10 | JoshBorke | dreamss: yes, i confirm your bug |
| 23:19.27 | dreamss | AHH i see |
| 23:19.45 | dreamss | it closes cause the mouse leaves the tooltip when it travels to select a new item |
| 23:19.55 | dreamss | if u move it fast the tooltip will stay open |
| 23:20.14 | Ellipsis | you crazy people |
| 23:21.05 | dreamss | i rather you call me mentally hilarious |
| 23:21.14 | dreamss | crazy is an ugly word |
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| 23:21.53 | JCinDE | now if only there were a prat plugin to lock chat tabs so they can't be rearranged |
| 23:21.56 | kandarz | is there an event for when a quest gets abandoned? |
| 23:22.08 | Mudkips | chat tabs are overrated |
| 23:22.09 | dreamss | oh god jc |
| 23:22.10 | Ellipsis | JCinDE, there's an Interface Option for that |
| 23:22.45 | Stanzilla2 | Tuller: Message: ..\AddOns\Bagnon_Forever\db.lua line 286: |
| 23:22.45 | Stanzilla2 | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:22.45 | Stanzilla2 | Debug: |
| 23:23.00 | hyperChipmunk | right click -> Lock Window |
| 23:23.17 | Tuller | that's more likely to be me, then :) |
| 23:23.29 | JCinDE | that doesn't do it hyperChipmunk |
| 23:23.40 | dreamss | u cantswitch tabs when u lock on the interface |
| 23:23.43 | JCinDE | and Ellipsis, no the only option is to lock chat entirely |
| 23:23.44 | Stanzilla2 | Tuller: http://ace.pastey.net/74464 |
| 23:23.49 | dreamss | and if u lock the window u can move the tab |
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| 23:23.50 | JCinDE | doesn't even let you switch tabs |
| 23:23.57 | dreamss | yeah.. |
| 23:24.12 | JCinDE | I hate when I accidentally drag a tab...and it happens a lot. heh |
| 23:24.29 | Tuller | except... |
| 23:24.31 | Mudkips | moral of the story? |
| 23:24.36 | NeoTron | so in DrDamage when it says that 10 dmg = 13.6 (or whateer0 |
| 23:24.36 | dreamss | unwated tooltops/accidently dragging stuff is one of my biggest issues in wow :P |
| 23:24.40 | Tuller | line 286 is an end in my version of bagnon_frever |
| 23:24.49 | NeoTron | that means I do 13.6 more dmg on average for every 10 additional spell dmg? |
| 23:24.53 | NeoTron | rather than 13.6 more dps..; |
| 23:25.05 | JCinDE | is Cowtips working for hiding tips in combat now? |
| 23:25.11 | Stanzilla2 | JCinDE: yesh |
| 23:25.16 | JCinDE | yay |
| 23:25.17 | dreamss | yeah neo, i think its dmg after modifiers |
| 23:25.40 | Stanzilla2 | Tuller: which means? |
| 23:25.59 | Tuller | Stanzilla2: you might need a new version, I'm double checking the wowinterface version |
| 23:26.43 | NeoTron | ok thanks, that's what I figured |
| 23:26.56 | Stanzilla2 | Tuller: okay |
| 23:27.07 | JCinDE | I picked up TrackerFu and rewrote it to leverage Dewdrop's support for secure actions...but I am still waiting for my SVN access. ^_^ |
| 23:27.08 | Tuller | its valid in mine, but not in yours, yay :) |
| 23:27.21 | Tuller | err a valid line in yours, but not in mine, that is |
| 23:27.40 | Tuller | so does it just occur when visiting the AH? |
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| 23:28.10 | Zhinjio | Semi-Hourly Ping: Need assistance resolving an SVN account permissions problem. plz msg me when you get time and inclination. |
| 23:28.26 | vhaarr | Zhinjio: you must talk to Kaelten |
| 23:28.30 | Stanzilla2 | Tuller: and sometimes when I hover over items in chatchannels |
| 23:28.44 | Zhinjio | ok. Thanks. |
| 23:28.50 | Kaelten | ? |
| 23:28.55 | Zhinjio | I did email svn-requests ... so hopeful... aha! |
| 23:29.15 | Zhinjio | the mythical beast awakens. |
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| 23:29.28 | Kaelten | the mythical beast is tired as hell |
| 23:29.30 | Wobwork | "The Kaelten Below" |
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| 23:29.40 | Kaelten | ~lart Wobwork |
| 23:29.40 | purl | cuts Wobwork into thin stripes |
| 23:29.43 | Stanzilla2 | sylvanaar: why the revert to the old saturation system? |
| 23:29.44 | vhaarr | Prince Kaelten Sunstrider |
| 23:29.44 | Ironhand | another WAU related question: where is the best place to report (suspected) bugs in WAU? |
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| 23:29.53 | Stanzilla2 | Ironhand: #wau |
| 23:29.59 | vhaarr | Kael'ten |
| 23:30.04 | Ironhand | thx Stanzilla |
| 23:30.10 | Arcaia | Kaelten: sup! |
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| 23:30.23 | JoshBorke | Kaelten: fix your broken OneBank ;-P |
| 23:30.30 | NeoTron | Clearly.. Lady Kaelten |
| 23:30.38 | Kaelten | ~lart NeoTron |
| 23:30.38 | purl | takes large quantities of Krispy Kream donuts and stuffs them one after another down NeoTron's throat until NeoTron puts on 150lbs |
| 23:30.39 | Ellipsis | o.O |
| 23:30.42 | Arcaia | Kaelten: yea, one bank is working, but all the icons for bags are broken in it |
| 23:30.55 | sedai| | hasnt onebank been borked forever? |
| 23:30.59 | [dRaCo] | no |
| 23:31.00 | Arcaia | no |
| 23:31.02 | sedai| | hmm |
| 23:31.04 | [dRaCo] | worked until 2.2 |
| 23:31.05 | JoshBorke | no |
| 23:31.05 | NeoTron | Kaelten: is that supposed to be a punishment? /love krispy creme |
| 23:31.06 | NeoTron | hehe |
| 23:31.07 | sylvanaar | Stanzilla because the algorithms i used caused grey to become blue |
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| 23:31.08 | JoshBorke | still works |
| 23:31.20 | Arcaia | bag icons just dont work. |
| 23:31.35 | charon | erm... Antiarc: where do i put an omen branch with my patch in it? /branches/Omen/ seems to contain an omen right away, but the rules say i should make it branches/Omen/charon/Omen/ |
| 23:31.37 | NeoTron | Using Baggins, is there any way to get alt-click on items in the back to go into trade window to work ? |
| 23:31.44 | [dRaCo] | and onebag keeps throwing an armor per bag |
| 23:31.51 | Stanzilla2 | sylvanaar: oh that's bad. I had a few color issues in Rock Config, too. btw any changes in the new wau version? |
| 23:31.52 | NeoTron | I haven't investigated. strangely, alt-click for bank works |
| 23:31.56 | Antiarc | charon: Just create a directory for your branches |
| 23:32.14 | JCinDE | NeoTron: use a mod called AltClickToAddItem |
| 23:32.29 | JCinDE | it's in wua |
| 23:32.37 | NeoTron | What confuses me though, is that this should be the default behavior? most(all but baggins?) bank addons just keep working? |
| 23:33.22 | sedai| | i use ARkinventory |
| 23:33.28 | Kaelten | I haven't even logged into 2.2 yet sooo |
| 23:33.29 | NeoTron | but installed that addon now, so we'll seee how that works |
| 23:33.31 | sedai| | who makes that and could they fix it pls |
| 23:33.47 | leech2k | wow |
| 23:33.50 | NeoTron | if I crecall correctly the fix for arkinventory is to uninstall it ;-) |
| 23:34.22 | NeoTron | when I evaluated smart inventory addons, ark seemed to like to lock up (update/sort whatever) while bags were closed, leading to some nice pauses when swapping gear, looting and such |
| 23:34.28 | NeoTron | although frankly, baggins does that as well |
| 23:34.36 | CIA-22 | 03charon 07charon * r49952 10Omen/: Omen: make my own branch subdir |
| 23:34.37 | NeoTron | can't figure out why or if it's some other addon thtat causes it |
| 23:34.57 | sylvanaar | Stanzilla some, it will autoretry failed downloads - can result in endless looping, but it fixes a more common issue |
| 23:35.16 | CIA-22 | 03zhinjio * r49953 10SuicideKingsGeo/ (6 files): (log message trimmed) |
| 23:35.16 | CIA-22 | SuicideKingsGeo : |
| 23:35.16 | CIA-22 | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:35.16 | CIA-22 | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:35.16 | CIA-22 | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:35.17 | CIA-22 | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:35.19 | CIA-22 | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:35.47 | Zhinjio | aw yeah, baby. Kaelten is the shiznit. |
| 23:35.53 | CIA-22 | 03charon 07charon * r49954 10Omen/Omen/: Omen: branch |
| 23:36.13 | Tuller | Stanzilla2: can I get what addons you're using as well? |
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| 23:37.23 | Stanzilla2 | Tuller: uff |
| 23:37.26 | Stanzilla2 | sec |
| 23:37.44 | CIA-22 | 03charon 07charon * r49955 10Omen/Omen/ (Omen.lua OmenMenu.lua localization_enUS.lua): Omen: configurable pullout bars |
| 23:37.49 | Kaelten | was there some api changes in regards to getting the character's server? |
| 23:38.03 | charon | there, i hope now it's done Right :) |
| 23:38.35 | Arcaia | is KC_Items not working? |
| 23:38.53 | Ellipsis | Kaelten, the second parameter of UnitName() is now an empty string instead of nil if they're from your realm |
| 23:39.05 | Ellipsis | s/parameter/return value/ |
| 23:39.17 | Kaelten | :( |
| 23:39.21 | Kaelten | did this effect Ace2? |
| 23:39.26 | Ellipsis | not sure |
| 23:39.37 | Kaelten | or rather AceDB's profiles? |
| 23:39.44 | CIA-22 | 03charon * r49956 10Mangler/Mangler.toc: Mangler: bump interface version |
| 23:40.01 | Ellipsis | i don't think so |
| 23:40.43 | aestil | charon, i have not played since you sent it to me. |
| 23:40.45 | Shadowed | Ellipsis are you sure it's not just in battlegrounds? |
| 23:40.50 | Ackis | anyone here know Jayhawk? |
| 23:41.14 | Shadowed | Just did a DT dump on UnitName and it's still returning nil when outside of a battlefield |
| 23:41.35 | BankZ | ClockFu isnt showing on my fubar for some reason |
| 23:41.55 | charon | aestil: i see. i put it up on SVN as a branch so if you have problems patching, try grabbing it from there |
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| 23:42.10 | Ellipsis | Shadowed: I'm sure |
| 23:42.34 | Ellipsis | I believe it only happens with party members but I couldn't verify that |
| 23:42.39 | Stanzilla2 | Tuller: http://www.ximg.de/p/960d5509e1049330d5b430ef1211e049.jpg |
| 23:42.48 | charon | Antiarc: *prod*, etc. give it a shot, now it's only a svn switch away :) |
| 23:43.02 | Antiarc | Heheh, okay |
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| 23:43.21 | aestil | ellipsis = full of win |
| 23:43.26 | aestil | http://img256.imageshack.us/img256/7559/wowscrnshot092607164224ji3.jpg |
| 23:43.28 | aestil | ty. |
| 23:43.28 | Ellipsis | <3 |
| 23:43.40 | Ellipsis | that looks really awesome |
| 23:43.48 | aestil | i think techincally, if we got our pixel measurer out, something is SLIGHTLY off. |
| 23:43.53 | Shadowed | Yea it's only party members |
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| 23:43.59 | Shadowed | well thats rather odd |
| 23:44.11 | aestil | but i'm happy with it. |
| 23:44.21 | Tuller | hrm, yes, I didn't merge the 2.2 changes to my machine :P |
| 23:44.41 | Ellipsis | aestil, if the difference isn't noticable to the naked eye when studying the UI, it's not going to be noticable during normal play :P |
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| 23:44.45 | BankZ | Anyone else having probs with ClockFu? |
| 23:44.55 | Ellipsis | BankZ, do you get an error? |
| 23:44.58 | aestil | well, the action bar is off by a pixel i think. |
| 23:45.06 | suppilein | nice interface aestil |
| 23:45.09 | charon | btw, am i supposed to add an empty (= true) translation to all languages whenever i add a string, or do i leave that away so it will break on other locales? |
| 23:45.14 | Arcaia | im angry ;P |
| 23:45.15 | Kaelten | Uptime1 days 2 hours 53 min 42 s |
| 23:45.16 | Kaelten | Started at2007-09-25 16:51:24 |
| 23:45.16 | Kaelten | absolute (since start) |
| 23:45.16 | Kaelten | Requests10 Mreq |
| 23:45.16 | Kaelten | Traffic1.37 Tbyte |
| 23:45.17 | Kaelten | :p |
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| 23:45.20 | aestil | suppilein, its not finished. |
| 23:45.27 | Mudkips | http://xs.to/xs.php?h=xs119&d=07392&f=WoWScrnShot_092407_211338.jpg |
| 23:45.29 | suppilein | still looks very nice |
| 23:45.29 | Arcaia | eePanels updated |
| 23:45.32 | kadrahil | deos mongoose proc off ranged attacks? |
| 23:45.33 | Arcaia | and deleted my textures |
| 23:45.35 | Arcaia | all of them. |
| 23:45.40 | suppilein | no does not kadrahil |
| 23:45.43 | kadrahil | didn't think so |
| 23:46.08 | aestil | ty suppilien. and thanks again ellipsis. its very 'symmetrical' now :) |
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| 23:46.20 | Arcaia | http://www.randomfew.net/random.public/uiss/WoWScrnShot_091707_201420.jpg - mage |
| 23:46.36 | Arcaia | http://www.randomfew.net/random.public/uiss/WoWScrnShot_092507_144948.jpg - rogue ;P |
| 23:47.10 | aestil | hey, arcaia, the cowtip healthbar on the left side going up down, thats just a few clicks to impliment? |
| 23:47.22 | BankZ | Ellipsi: no error, just cant get it to show on bar |
| 23:47.24 | Arcaia | yea |
| 23:47.31 | CIA-22 | 03zhinjio * r49957 10SuicideKingsGeo/SuicideKingsGeo.toc: |
| 23:47.31 | CIA-22 | SuicideKingsGeo : |
| 23:47.31 | CIA-22 | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:47.39 | Ellipsis | BankZ, how are you trying to enable it? |
| 23:48.08 | Arcaia | you just go into cowtip and make health bar - positiion: left |
| 23:48.25 | Ellipsis | Arcaia, how did you get your cyCircled overlays rarity-colored? O.O |
| 23:48.25 | Mudkips | I got a lot to learn about frame parenting and scripts, thats my next panel project |
| 23:48.28 | BankZ | Ellipsis: well it was enabled before I updated, but its checked on fubar for bar1 right |
| 23:48.43 | Arcaia | thats just showing what i have equipped, not rarity |
| 23:48.48 | Ellipsis | oh |
| 23:48.51 | Ellipsis | I was gonna say, that's hax |
| 23:49.23 | Arcaia | it probably wouldnt be hard to implement honestly |
| 23:49.27 | Arcaia | im not gonna do it |
| 23:50.06 | Ellipsis | BankZ: enabling it on another bar doesn't make it show up or anything? |
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| 23:50.12 | Arcaia | the info is there, if mods like onebank and etc can use it, im sure cycircled/bt3 could |
| 23:50.27 | Ellipsis | and you're 100% sure there's no error (using bugsack/swatter/etc. or at least with show lua errors on)? |
| 23:50.54 | Ellipsis | Arcaia, yeah, but it would probably take a significant amount of additional code |
| 23:51.53 | aestil | ok ellipsis, you finish. i did the hard part. rest is just making panels, parenting, adding 4 pixels |
| 23:52.03 | Ellipsis | lol |
| 23:52.12 | Zhinjio | Here's a question for y'all. Is it possible for a mod to pick up savedvariables from another mod |
| 23:52.25 | Ellipsis | yes Zhinjio |
| 23:52.27 | Zhinjio | I mean, they don't have visibility into them, do they? |
| 23:53.28 | Zhinjio | I'm happy to go read more on this so I don't ask dumb questions if you know of a good resource on this. |
| 23:53.36 | Zhinjio | <-- doesn't like being a nub. |
| 23:53.56 | kandarz | can anyone help me with library instances, trying to get Quixote to work in a new lua file for bEQL |
| 23:54.06 | aestil | ok, so, i make a sacrifice for my target eePanel, because I assume that 95% of the time my Target will have a ToT and a ToToT. so my eePanel is set to properly 'contain' all 3 frames. |
| 23:54.13 | vithos | yes and no. as i understand it they'd have to have the SV filename for the other mod in the .toc, and i don't know what would happen if you had both running at the same time. maybe bad things like losing all the variables? |
| 23:54.31 | aestil | but this means i randomly target someone, who has no target, and I have blank space. i'm pretty much borked on that one right? |
| 23:54.39 | Ellipsis | aestil: sorta |
| 23:54.42 | kadrahil | nice wall of text vithos |
| 23:54.43 | kadrahil | gosh |
| 23:54.46 | Ellipsis | again, unless yooyu want a script |
| 23:54.52 | Ellipsis | s/yooyu/you/ |
| 23:55.06 | Ellipsis | WTB typing skillups |
| 23:55.13 | aestil | the script, being something I can't at all write myself. |
| 23:55.17 | vithos | kadrahil: that's nothing compared to the walls of text i'm posting on my guild's private forum about dkp system reform |
| 23:55.23 | charon | goodnight |
| 23:55.39 | Mudkips | http://img520.imageshack.us/img520/7494/cleanunddl0.jpg (which cy_circled layout is that? or is it custom) ? |
| 23:55.42 | Ellipsis | I could help, but it would kinda be a pain |
| 23:55.47 | aestil | i'm interested though. BECAUSE, when my Shadowfiend is summoned, his frame, and his target is below my player frame. |
| 23:56.02 | aestil | so, currently, i just don't panel those frames at all. |
| 23:56.11 | aestil | but I also have a hunter twink, and hunter alt. |
| 23:56.27 | aestil | so if I'm to convert this UI to 'everyone' so to speak, i need to handle pets better. |
| 23:56.29 | aestil | and i dunno how. |
| 23:56.30 | Ellipsis | would a second panel just for those look ok? |
| 23:56.48 | Stanzilla2 | Mudkips: modded _Vol |
| 23:56.49 | Ellipsis | or do you think it would need to be one panel that resizes when you have a pet |
| 23:56.53 | aestil | they are basically touching. |
| 23:56.56 | Ellipsis | eesh |
| 23:56.59 | Ellipsis | yeah that'd be tricky |
| 23:57.00 | Mudkips | Stanzilla, that's what I guessed |
| 23:57.16 | Mudkips | any easy way for me to tweak mine? |
| 23:57.19 | Stanzilla2 | hm |
| 23:57.25 | Mudkips | maybe get rid of the glaze and change border colors? |
| 23:57.25 | Ellipsis | delete the gloss texture? :P |
| 23:57.28 | Stanzilla2 | someone published it at elitistjerks |
| 23:57.36 | aestil | tricky as in, if we go like... 2 weeks of messing with it, we can get it to work, or tricky like 'thats never going to happen tim' |
| 23:57.39 | Gnarfoz | Kaelten: zomg traffic o_O |
| 23:57.39 | Ellipsis | it's posted in the cyCircled thread on WowAce too |
| 23:57.54 | Mudkips | saywut |
| 23:58.02 | Ellipsis | aestil: tricky enough that I'd need more caffeine to write the script for it |
| 23:58.08 | kandarz | Kemayo, could you help me with Quixote problem? I'm probably just referencing it wrong |
| 23:58.11 | aestil | i work at starbucks. |
| 23:58.14 | Ellipsis | I love you |
| 23:58.16 | aestil | i can provide caffine |
| 23:58.25 | Ellipsis | no, seriously, you should bring me coffee :P |
| 23:58.29 | aestil | are you in LA? |
| 23:58.31 | Ellipsis | OC |
| 23:58.35 | aestil | thats right. |
| 23:58.54 | aestil | i'll mail you my lb of coffee this week :) |
| 23:58.55 | Mudkips | I had a friend from OC move to vegas |
| 23:59.01 | Ellipsis | if you did I would love you forever |
| 23:59.07 | Ellipsis | we just got a coffeemaker and...yeah |
| 23:59.13 | aestil | grats! |
| 23:59.18 | aestil | cone or flat bottom? |
| 23:59.23 | Ellipsis | lol, finally someone who understands |
| 23:59.27 | Kaelten | fun eh? |
| 23:59.29 | Ellipsis | flat >_> |
| 23:59.31 | aestil | I personally recomend a coffee press. |
| 23:59.41 | aestil | they are very cheap, and all you need do is boil water. |
| 23:59.44 | Ellipsis | yeah, well, Wal-Mart doesn't have the best selection |
| 23:59.56 | Ellipsis | I was hoping to get one of those travel mugs with the built-in press |
