| 00:00.06 | Ellipsis | but I don't know if anyone sells them except an actual Starbucks |
| 00:00.08 | aestil | you can get a coffee press at like starbucks, just like that, for like 15 or 25 dollars. |
| 00:00.11 | Ellipsis | and I haven't seen a Starbucks near h ere |
| 00:00.14 | Mudkips | those mugs are messy |
| 00:00.17 | aestil | LIEZ |
| 00:00.30 | aestil | ellipsis, there is a starbucks every 20 feet in OC. |
| 00:00.35 | Mudkips | yeah ^ |
| 00:00.37 | Mudkips | same here |
| 00:00.44 | Ellipsis | aestil, I know, I just don't get out much :P |
| 00:00.48 | aestil | but if you ever make your way north, to the SFV, you can visit me. |
| 00:00.56 | Ellipsis | (I'm from Seattle originally, so this seems sparse to me) |
| 00:01.08 | Gnarfoz | Kaelten: daunting, actually :o |
| 00:01.10 | Mudkips | it's a tarp |
| 00:01.14 | Mudkips | don't do it! |
| 00:01.19 | Ellipsis | lol |
| 00:01.19 | aestil | within 5 minutes driving from my store, in any direction, you can get to another starbucks. |
| 00:01.23 | Gnarfoz | ~x de en beängstigend |
| 00:01.25 | Ellipsis | driving, lol |
| 00:01.30 | aestil | there are 5. |
| 00:01.35 | Gnarfoz | or frightening, whichever fits better ;) |
| 00:01.37 | aestil | within 5 minutes. |
| 00:01.41 | Ellipsis | back home you'd be lucky if you could crawl for 5 minutes in any given direction without running into one |
| 00:01.42 | Mudkips | starbucks gets expensive |
| 00:01.50 | Mudkips | and fatty |
| 00:01.54 | Mudkips | all that whipped cream junk |
| 00:02.01 | Ellipsis | hay be nice |
| 00:02.02 | aestil | yes, lots of fat in drip coffee. |
| 00:02.14 | aestil | lots of fat in nonfat milk too. |
| 00:02.17 | Mudkips | well not drip coffee |
| 00:02.17 | aestil | [which we all have] |
| 00:02.17 | Ellipsis | brb, craving |
| 00:02.30 | aestil | ellpsis, make me eepanels do fancy things! |
| 00:02.35 | Mudkips | I see more people toting the ones coffee shakes than actual coffee |
| 00:02.43 | Kuja^ | [01:55:04] <Ellipsis> WTB typing skillups <- you need to respec for that.... *hides* |
| 00:02.48 | Mudkips | mint chocolate chip flavor and all that jazz |
| 00:02.51 | aestil | depends on the area / demograph honestly mudkips |
| 00:03.01 | Ellipsis | Kuja^: respec male, you mean? :P |
| 00:03.04 | Gnarfoz | Ellipsis: www.typera.net |
| 00:03.04 | Gnarfoz | =) |
| 00:03.11 | Kaelten | bah, just a weeks worth of traffic in 24 hours |
| 00:03.12 | Mudkips | must be different here in suburbia |
| 00:03.13 | Gnarfoz | oh crap |
| 00:03.21 | aestil | my store sells through 9L of coffee in a 30 minute period every morning. |
| 00:03.25 | Gnarfoz | Ellipsis: http://typera.tk/ sorry :) |
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| 00:04.43 | Mudkips | oh lawd 34 pages in cy_circled thread |
| 00:04.50 | Mudkips | this is gonna take a while |
| 00:05.11 | Ellipsis | Mudkips: l2search |
| 00:05.27 | Mudkips | its so mall |
| 00:05.30 | Mudkips | small |
| 00:05.32 | Ellipsis | why do these bottled things taste nothing like a real Frappuccino? |
| 00:05.42 | Mudkips | <bottled> |
| 00:05.49 | Mudkips | only good coffee is fresh coffee |
| 00:06.00 | Ellipsis | cbf making a whole pot right now |
| 00:06.10 | JCinDE | gah! darn tooltips still showing up *smacks Cowtip* |
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| 00:06.53 | Ellipsis | JCinDE? |
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| 00:09.16 | aestil | that typing site crashed firefox good. |
| 00:09.42 | Gnarfoz | oO |
| 00:09.43 | Ellipsis | gg |
| 00:10.06 | Gnarfoz | it's just java |
| 00:11.09 | Ellipsis | ha |
| 00:11.12 | Ellipsis | tell that to FF |
| 00:11.13 | Stanzilla2 | Tuller: found the bug? |
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| 00:11.22 | Tuller | I've not been able to reproduce it, no |
| 00:11.32 | aestil | ckknight, how do you copy/paste color information in rockconfig? |
| 00:11.57 | Ellipsis | you don't (yet) |
| 00:12.06 | Mudkips | did someone say cp? |
| 00:12.09 | aestil | this feature must be implimented yesterday |
| 00:12.18 | Ellipsis | heh |
| 00:12.24 | Ellipsis | Mudkips: wrong cp |
| 00:12.25 | aestil | i will go do a rain dance. |
| 00:12.26 | Diao | has anyone reported the bug with cartographer party? |
| 00:12.36 | Diao | not showing colors of party/raid members properly |
| 00:12.37 | Mudkips | ;; |
| 00:12.45 | Ellipsis | yes Diao |
| 00:12.50 | Diao | ok |
| 00:12.52 | Ellipsis | known issue, ckknight will fix it someday |
| 00:12.54 | Mudkips | yeah nice bug |
| 00:13.06 | Diao | how about the cowtip one where it doesn't detect realm properly if the person is out of range |
| 00:13.18 | ckknight | blame Blizz goddammit |
| 00:13.21 | Diao | lol |
| 00:13.28 | ckknight | I'm serious |
| 00:13.39 | ckknight | make a bitchy post on the forums or something |
| 00:13.44 | Trell_ | mm my loading screen is hanging after porting to sw from shatt >_< |
| 00:13.47 | Antiarc | ckknight: I blame you. Personally. And for this blister on my foot, too. >:[ |
| 00:13.48 | aestil | ckknight, what about not getting guild/talent spec if the person is not near? |
| 00:13.49 | Ellipsis | why did they even mess with it |
| 00:13.50 | ckknight | UnitName("unit") no longer returns accurate results |
| 00:13.55 | Diao | oh |
| 00:13.55 | Trell_ | that *can't* be good |
| 00:13.59 | Diao | ok |
| 00:14.10 | JCinDE | Is Cowtip not supposed to supress ALL tooltips if I set everything to "out of combat"? |
| 00:14.16 | ckknight | Ellipsis: because they didn't make a unit test, probably |
| 00:14.23 | Ellipsis | I blame ckknight for my sore arm...oh wait, that *is* ckknight's fault |
| 00:14.25 | Ellipsis | ;) |
| 00:14.28 | Mudkips | you can see other peoples talent spec? |
| 00:14.31 | ckknight | hehe |
| 00:14.36 | Mudkips | what is this shit |
| 00:14.36 | ckknight | too much of an up-and-down motion |
| 00:14.38 | Mudkips | that's hax |
| 00:14.58 | JCinDE | ' |
| 00:14.58 | Ellipsis | what can I say, I read your LibFuBarPlugin-3.0 docs and just got carried away... |
| 00:15.15 | JCinDE | World Units means player tooltips in the world frame, right? |
| 00:15.28 | aestil | is libfubarplugin 3 that exciting ellipsis? |
| 00:15.36 | Ellipsis | maybe |
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| 00:17.16 | Arcaia | Kaelten: http://ace.pastey.net/74466 [if you haven't seen it already, not trying to bug you, just trying to be helpful |
| 00:17.47 | Ellipsis | I CAN SEE FOREVER |
| 00:17.48 | Kaelten | burn in hades |
| 00:17.52 | Kaelten | :P |
| 00:18.03 | Arcaia | :P |
| 00:18.04 | Kaelten | hrm, fun |
| 00:18.12 | Kaelten | I havn't looked into it again yet |
| 00:18.32 | Arcaia | K, just didn't know if anybody had actually posted a bugreport yet ;P |
| 00:18.50 | Kaelten | I've heard that its broke, but havn't seen it yet |
| 00:19.17 | Gnarfoz | ;DDD |
| 00:19.18 | Gnarfoz | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pBiLAy7mDbw |
| 00:20.06 | Ellipsis | x.x |
| 00:20.18 | Gnarfoz | most awesome |
| 00:21.07 | Vires | New version of Bartender3 broke Modality =( I was wondering what that attempt to index field ? error was when I logged in... |
| 00:21.55 | Ackis | can anyone tell me if it would be ok if I included the code from this thread http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=8152.0 into altclicktoadditem, or does that break some sort of taboo thingy? |
| 00:24.21 | Ellipsis | it looks like the original author hasn't touched it in 3 months, and other people have been bumping it and doing minor fixes |
| 00:24.24 | Kemayo | kandarz: What's the problem? |
| 00:24.25 | Mudkips | yay found it |
| 00:24.27 | Ellipsis | if you can't get in touch with the author you might as well |
| 00:24.34 | Mudkips | search is superior |
| 00:24.38 | FRUCHT | quick baggins question: can you make it show your bags at the bottom of the inventory window? |
| 00:24.40 | kandarz | Kemayo, I got it :| ID != Id |
| 00:24.59 | Kemayo | kandarz: Ah, one of those problems. I remember fun evenings tracking those down. >_> |
| 00:25.45 | Mudkips | sometimes I wish I had an ftp server |
| 00:26.19 | kandarz | Kemayo, is it possible to add some new events to Quixote? Abandon quest, complete quest when you actually complete it, "QuestFrameCompleteQuestButton_OnClick" |
| 00:28.43 | Antiarc | Ackis: Try to contact the author and ask for permission first, if you can |
| 00:28.54 | Antiarc | It's generally considered rude to commit to a project you don't own without permission |
| 00:29.25 | Kemayo | kandarz: Probably, yes. I'd just have to check up on how to accurately detect those. |
| 00:29.27 | JoshBorke | i'll show you rude antiarc! |
| 00:29.36 | Antiarc | ..|.. JoshBorke |
| 00:29.37 | Antiarc | ! |
| 00:29.44 | Ellipsis | hay be nice |
| 00:29.45 | Antiarc | In fact! |
| 00:29.53 | Antiarc | ..|.. >_< ..|.. |
| 00:29.55 | Antiarc | Oh yeah. |
| 00:29.59 | JoshBorke | lol |
| 00:30.20 | Antiarc | You sir, have been served. |
| 00:30.36 | Antiarc | :D |
| 00:30.38 | Ellipsis | no u |
| 00:30.41 | Antiarc | :O |
| 00:30.46 | Ellipsis | winnar \o/ |
| 00:31.03 | Ackis | ;p; |
| 00:31.04 | Ackis | err |
| 00:31.06 | Ackis | lol |
| 00:31.11 | Ackis | blame my cat for that... |
| 00:31.23 | Ellipsis | right, your pet lol'ed, sure |
| 00:31.23 | Mudkips | damn |
| 00:31.29 | JoshBorke | i'm confused |
| 00:31.31 | Ackis | he's on my keyboard |
| 00:31.35 | JoshBorke | ~whalebomb antiarc |
| 00:31.36 | purl | ACTION throws an explosive whale named Gunter at antiarc and hides. |
| 00:31.55 | Antiarc | ~pwn JoshBorke |
| 00:31.55 | purl | ACTION logs into the machine JoshBorke is sitting at and pulls a fast one. |
| 00:31.55 | Mudkips | you know those mousepads the size of a fastfood tray? |
| 00:32.20 | hyperChipmunk | my tallstrider can beat your cat any day ( ^ > |
| 00:32.22 | JoshBorke | a fast one what? |
| 00:32.30 | Ellipsis | I had one of those back home Mudkips >_> made of teflon |
| 00:32.37 | Mudkips | mine was cloth |
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| 00:33.59 | Mudkips | i left a half empty bowl of cereal on the desk |
| 00:34.15 | Mudkips | dun dun dun |
| 00:35.06 | Arcaia | new. 1 hour delay for money incoming from auction house sales |
| 00:35.11 | Arcaia | item transfers are immediate |
| 00:36.37 | Amadeo | Did you guys see the upcoming Rogue changes for 2.3? :D |
| 00:36.50 | Trell_ | Amadeo; from where? |
| 00:36.54 | Trell_ | tell me |
| 00:36.56 | Trell_ | :P |
| 00:36.56 | Amadeo | Blizzard |
| 00:36.57 | Stanzilla2 | Amadeo: linky poo? |
| 00:37.06 | Amadeo | check the US Rogue forums, they're actually there posting :P |
| 00:37.07 | Trell_ | i've been waiting a while to see whats gonna happen to my poor main |
| 00:37.10 | Trell_ | shutup |
| 00:37.12 | Amadeo | got some really neat stuff |
| 00:37.13 | Trell_ | i don't believe you :P |
| 00:37.17 | Amadeo | Go look! |
| 00:37.17 | Trell_ | *checks* |
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| 00:38.37 | Trell_ | bleh, FF just crashed |
| 00:38.41 | Trell_ | I'll have to look after heroic mt |
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| 00:39.17 | Jaxon | Mystery addon causing non-fatal assertion on OSX clients. |
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| 00:42.46 | Trell_ | wowsers |
| 00:42.53 | Trell_ | shadowstep usable out of stealth!!111! |
| 00:43.05 | Trell_ | and dirty dees improvement is cool |
| 00:43.17 | Amadeo | and Hemo :D |
| 00:43.22 | Amadeo | I really enjoyed Hemo in the past |
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| 00:43.38 | Amadeo | somewhere else they say Fleet Footed is going to get a 15% increase instead of 8% for speed |
| 00:44.00 | [dRaCo] | that sounds pretty friggin imba :/ |
| 00:45.00 | Trell_ | yeah |
| 00:45.03 | Trell_ | next blue post |
| 00:45.07 | Trell_ | 15% instead of 8% |
| 00:45.21 | Amadeo | I'm not really sure what that solves, but that's fast |
| 00:45.30 | Ackis | from 2.3 patch notes... 1/3rd of +Healing will count as +Dmg |
| 00:45.30 | Amadeo | [dRaCo]: Consider that Druids can already move faster |
| 00:45.32 | Trell_ | the hemo should be good |
| 00:45.43 | Trell_ | Ackis, wheres the 2.3 notes? |
| 00:45.51 | Ackis | http://www.worldofraids.com/ |
| 00:46.00 | Ackis | only confirmed changes by blues are listed |
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| 00:46.13 | [dRaCo] | yeah, but what about all the other classes? :/ |
| 00:46.15 | *** mode/#wowace [+v AnduinLothar] by ChanServ |
| 00:46.16 | siIentium | there are no real notes yet, just a summary of lots of blue posts |
| 00:46.19 | Bibi | worldofraids |
| 00:46.28 | siIentium | mmo-champion.com |
| 00:46.31 | Amadeo | 1/3 of healing will be damage? that's pretty sick |
| 00:46.34 | Trell_ | wtf! |
| 00:46.38 | Trell_ | way to nerf deadly throw |
| 00:46.49 | Ackis | still pretty low imo, it should around 40%ish |
| 00:46.54 | Amadeo | I spoke with a Priest last night who had 2100 healing, that means 700 damage |
| 00:47.06 | Ellipsis | wow |
| 00:47.22 | Ellipsis | yay for warlocks: •Ritual of Souls has had it's casting time significantly reduced |
| 00:47.31 | Ellipsis | life as I know it will never be the same |
| 00:47.31 | Ackis | 700 damage is nothing, I have 970 damage in my off-specced gear from kara, and I'm at 2k healing right now with a boatload of manaregen |
| 00:47.43 | Amadeo | With all the stuff they're adding in 2.3, this must be the expansion patch |
| 00:47.50 | Amadeo | Ackis: You have 700 damage with your 2k healing though? |
| 00:48.05 | Amadeo | er 970, that is |
| 00:48.15 | Amadeo | or do you have like 400 healing when you have that? :P |
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| 00:48.30 | Ackis | I have 969 healing in my damage gear ;) |
| 00:48.40 | Amadeo | Yeah, so that's pretty crazy |
| 00:48.45 | Ackis | just saying I'll still ahve to switch out my T6 gear for my kara gear |
| 00:49.44 | CIA-22 | 03kemayo * r49958 10TheSocial-1.0/TheSocial-1.0.toc: TheSocial-1.0: TOC. |
| 00:49.54 | CIA-22 | 03kemayo * r49959 10FuBar_KungFu/FuBar_KungFu.toc: FuBar_KungFu: TOC. |
| 00:50.11 | Trell_ | im shocked about deadly throw |
| 00:51.12 | Amadeo | I don't think Blizzard intended Rogues to shut down casters permanently from afar |
| 00:51.30 | Ackis | hopefully they fix the crappy sound issues before 2.3 |
| 00:51.32 | Amadeo | hopefully with the changes you'll be back in range this time |
| 00:51.35 | Amadeo | and it won't matter |
| 00:51.44 | Amadeo | Ackis: I'd like my framerate back |
| 00:52.08 | Trell_ | Amadeo - it screws rogues over even more in pvp |
| 00:52.10 | Ackis | that's the whole point... they changed from hardware sound support to software sound support... gfg |
| 00:52.26 | Amadeo | no hardware at all now? |
| 00:52.32 | Ackis | nope removed |
| 00:52.47 | Ackis | and bugged w/ soundblaster audigy |
| 00:53.05 | Morghus | Bibi, you missed my message about it earlier? :P |
| 00:53.35 | Bibi | about what ? :( |
| 00:53.42 | Arcaia | new. 1 hour delay for money incoming from auction house sales |
| 00:53.51 | Arcaia | why do i still play this game? |
| 00:54.18 | Amadeo | wow, you're right |
| 00:54.22 | Amadeo | I just disabled sound and gained 20 fps |
| 00:54.34 | Ackis | yuppers |
| 00:54.46 | Bibi | Morghus ! |
| 00:54.50 | Bibi | you have to tell me ! YOU HAVE TO ! |
| 00:55.05 | Amadeo | not sure how accurate that is though, sometimes I lose some framerate while tabbing :) |
| 00:55.10 | Morghus | Bibi, I linked the news thingie to you really early :) |
| 00:55.24 | Bibi | oh, yes, I was just kidding |
| 00:55.29 | Morghus | ;D |
| 00:55.36 | Bibi | to be honest linking on IRC doesn't change much |
| 00:55.48 | Bibi | there are maybe, 20 people who are really reading the channel right now |
| 00:55.56 | Bibi | out of the 20, 10 of them don't care |
| 00:56.02 | Morghus | I suppose, I like your site though, so I just try to help :D |
| 00:56.23 | Bibi | you can, would you sell a part of your body for a tatoo ? |
| 00:56.53 | Trell_ | well, im not too keen on the rogue changes, but shammy love is just hotness |
| 00:57.01 | Morghus | If it's a dragon-tattoo ;D |
| 00:59.15 | Bibi | not really. :( |
| 01:00.16 | Morghus | Awww... a pity. Would've matched my other one \o/ |
| 01:02.39 | Morghus | Bibi: Ever considered to add links to macro's, or one of the numerous macro-guides out there, or a general link-repository? |
| 01:03.11 | Bibi | adding more things to the site isn't really a good idea for the moment |
| 01:03.20 | Bibi | but ... soon. |
| 01:03.21 | Bibi | ^^ |
| 01:04.13 | Jaxon | Whats adding the pronounced drop shadow to all my text? |
| 01:04.23 | Bibi | a bug |
| 01:04.31 | Morghus | It's a really annoying bug :P |
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| 01:14.16 | Busko | hi anyone around :P |
| 01:14.37 | KarlThePagan | sorta |
| 01:14.39 | kaiden | maybe |
| 01:14.40 | Busko | was wondering if anyone have heard about a addon |
| 01:14.41 | kaiden | are you paying? |
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| 01:14.46 | kaiden | i've heard about a addon |
| 01:14.48 | kaiden | once before |
| 01:14.57 | Busko | its addon that lets u know when u cooldowns on other chars are done |
| 01:15.04 | Busko | like tailoring transmute etc |
| 01:15.09 | Busko | no mather what char you on |
| 01:15.16 | Busko | or something like that |
| 01:15.18 | KarlThePagan | oh |
| 01:15.22 | KarlThePagan | heh i thought you meant pvp |
| 01:15.28 | Busko | :P |
| 01:15.35 | kaiden | Busko, TradeCDFu |
| 01:15.37 | KarlThePagan | yea |
| 01:15.38 | kaiden | or some crap like that |
| 01:15.44 | KarlThePagan | hold up on that |
| 01:15.45 | Busko | oh ok thanx |
| 01:15.47 | KarlThePagan | i've used both |
| 01:15.51 | KarlThePagan | that one and... |
| 01:16.07 | Busko | FuBar_tcgTradeskills ? |
| 01:16.10 | kaiden | Busko http://files.wowace.com/FuBar_TradeCDFu |
| 01:16.17 | Busko | ok thanx ^^ |
| 01:16.21 | KarlThePagan | yea TradeCDFu is better |
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| 01:16.36 | aestil | antiar ping |
| 01:16.40 | aestil | fail |
| 01:16.43 | aestil | ~seen antiarc |
| 01:16.45 | purl | antiarc is currently on #wowi-lounge (3d 2h 54m 25s) #wowace (3d 2h 54m 25s). Has said a total of 297 messages. Is idling for 44m 50s, last said: '~pwn JoshBorke'. |
| 01:17.00 | Antiarc | pong |
| 01:17.02 | KarlThePagan | just in my experience... has the features i need for stuff |
| 01:18.08 | Zhinjio | any idea why some tooltips would work and others wouldn't in bagnon? |
| 01:18.46 | Busko | thanx for your help guys ^^ and girls :D |
| 01:18.56 | KarlThePagan | no girls on the internets |
| 01:18.59 | KarlThePagan | ;) |
| 01:18.59 | haste | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:19.05 | Busko | :P |
| 01:19.10 | KarlThePagan | hehe |
| 01:19.16 | KarlThePagan | until my wife logs on |
| 01:19.18 | Ellipsis | except me |
| 01:19.21 | Ellipsis | >_> |
| 01:19.30 | KarlThePagan | XD |
| 01:19.32 | Zhinjio | ... |
| 01:19.34 | Busko | haha |
| 01:19.35 | Busko | :P |
| 01:19.41 | Busko | alot of girls around |
| 01:19.48 | KarlThePagan | must escape ;) |
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| 01:20.57 | Zhinjio | any other reports of weird tooltip problems? |
| 01:21.32 | Ellipsis | plenty >_> |
| 01:22.03 | kaiden | Ellipsis, remember the keybindings bug |
| 01:22.17 | Ellipsis | yeh |
| 01:22.17 | kaiden | Ellipsis, it just cost me 165 dollars and then i figured out what's causing it |
| 01:22.22 | Ellipsis | ... |
| 01:22.24 | Ellipsis | o.O |
| 01:22.26 | kaiden | i got pissed and broke my keyboard in half |
| 01:22.26 | kaiden | :P |
| 01:22.36 | kaiden | then figured out that it's myBindings2 causing the problem |
| 01:22.41 | Ellipsis | bahaha |
| 01:22.48 | kaiden | it's setting binding mode randomly without being in the panel |
| 01:22.50 | Ellipsis | grats on fail kaiden |
| 01:22.57 | kaiden | so it will lock up certain keys |
| 01:23.01 | kaiden | and not allow you to access them |
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| 01:23.16 | kaiden | at least so far.. during my testing that's all i can come up with |
| 01:23.21 | kaiden | oh well, this new keyboard is sexy :) |
| 01:23.28 | Ellipsis | what'd ya get |
| 01:23.44 | kaiden | the new microsoft wireless entertainment 7000 series |
| 01:24.01 | kaiden | bluetooth mouse / keyboard |
| 01:24.04 | Ellipsis | hot |
| 01:24.16 | kaiden | i'm really impressed by the size of this thing and some of the features |
| 01:24.31 | kaiden | it doesn't have function keys on it, it's touch sensitive areas on the keyboard |
| 01:24.36 | kaiden | that when you touch they operate as the function keys |
| 01:24.40 | kaiden | a little too sensitive imo |
| 01:25.33 | kaiden | ok n/m it wasn't myBindings2 |
| 01:25.36 | kaiden | it just did it again |
| 01:25.41 | Ellipsis | XD |
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| 01:26.33 | kaiden | i wonder if it may have to do with the change they made to window mode |
| 01:26.41 | kaiden | because it's only happening when i alt-tab out |
| 01:27.02 | Ellipsis | alt-tab probably makes it think alt is stuck down or something |
| 01:27.11 | aestil | whats causing gametooltip errors? i'm getting a guildie who has an error when he mouses over unit frames. |
| 01:27.23 | Ellipsis | does it happen if you switch windows by hitting the windows key or something instead |
| 01:27.41 | Trell_ | wth is with the -50% threat on shadowstep? |
| 01:27.47 | Ellipsis | aestil: Blizz made an overall change to the tooltip, most commonly the addon causing problems is ItemRack |
| 01:28.01 | Ellipsis | but anything that messes with tooltips can cause issues |
| 01:28.04 | Kebinusan | anyone read any fixes to the DC issues with 2.2 and wireless network cards |
| 01:28.18 | KarlThePagan | Busko, oh hey I just checked - I actually would recommend SkillsPlusFu if you want something that does a little more than trade CD |
| 01:28.31 | kaiden | Ellipsis, yeah but it's happening with shift too |
| 01:28.32 | kaiden | :P |
| 01:28.41 | Ellipsis | impressive kaiden |
| 01:29.00 | Ellipsis | what else does SkillsPlusFu do, KarlThePagan? |
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| 01:29.47 | Zhinjio | I love skillsplusfu. |
| 01:29.49 | kenlyric | shows alt skills |
| 01:29.50 | Zhinjio | <3 |
| 01:29.54 | Ellipsis | oh |
| 01:29.55 | Ellipsis | bleh |
| 01:30.04 | kenlyric | link to your skills to free up a few slots. |
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| 01:33.28 | rubik | XLoot has been fixed? anyone know? i saw i just grabbed an updated version but wondering if safe to enable it again... |
| 01:34.09 | kaiden | safe? what was it doing before? lol |
| 01:34.29 | QuantumDelta | hmm |
| 01:34.35 | QuantumDelta | who manages threat-lib btw? |
| 01:34.43 | rubik | well.. last night, i couldn't loot using it.. had to log out, disable it, log back in.. in order to loot my trinket won in karazhan |
| 01:35.05 | drc|away | QuantumDelta: Antiarc does that, afaik |
| 01:35.12 | Antiarc | Yeah, that's me |
| 01:37.36 | Busko | KarlThePagan ok |
| 01:37.49 | Busko | im trying this FuBar_tcgTradeskills |
| 01:38.01 | Busko | but cant figure out how it to show my cooldowns |
| 01:38.10 | Busko | i scaned the prof but nothing shows |
| 01:38.32 | KarlThePagan | Ellipsis, oh skills plus also tracks your alts skill levels (filterable) as well as cooldowns and has a nice menu for opening your skill windows (ooc of course) |
| 01:39.01 | KarlThePagan | and has a nice tooltip with skill summaries (weapon skill etc) |
| 01:39.05 | Busko | oh it sounds like the one i trying now |
| 01:39.14 | Busko | u get little buttons of ur skills in fubar |
| 01:39.14 | KarlThePagan | yea I forget why i stopped using tcg |
| 01:39.18 | Busko | and u can open them |
| 01:39.27 | Busko | and see chars skill lev |
| 01:39.31 | KarlThePagan | yea |
| 01:40.27 | Ellipsis | I use tcg, it does everything I need >_> |
| 01:41.17 | Busko | hehe Ellipsis u got it to show ur Cooldowns ? |
| 01:41.23 | Busko | i couldent seem to get it to work |
| 01:41.52 | Ellipsis | yeah, it works fine for my tailoring cds |
| 01:42.13 | Busko | hmm it dident show me my :( |
| 01:42.25 | Ellipsis | what professions? |
| 01:42.32 | Busko | enchanting |
| 01:42.40 | Busko | the nexus cooldown |
| 01:42.50 | Ellipsis | oh, that's new though isn't it? |
| 01:42.54 | Ellipsis | probably hasn't been added yet |
| 01:43.52 | KarlThePagan | it was a long time ago i picked one ;) |
| 01:44.02 | KarlThePagan | i like to keep my elune's lanterns cooled down too ;) |
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| 01:45.19 | Busko | yea u might be right |
| 01:45.40 | Busko | but Ellipsis how u see that ur cooldowns are done ? |
| 01:45.42 | Busko | in urs ? |
| 01:46.00 | Ellipsis | um |
| 01:46.04 | Ellipsis | it prints to the chat frame? |
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| 01:46.29 | Busko | ok so u cant like hover over the icon and see spellfire cooldown 15h |
| 01:47.53 | Ellipsis | yes you can |
| 01:48.06 | Busko | ok how do i get that to work :P |
| 01:48.11 | Ellipsis | it shows in the FuBar tooltip by default |
| 01:48.46 | Ellipsis | as well as printing current CD times to the chat frame on login, and repeatedly printing when your CDs are up |
| 01:48.48 | Ellipsis | >_> |
| 01:48.49 | Busko | coz when put muse over the icons of profs i only see like 375/375 |
| 01:48.54 | kenlyric | bah, my mouse button no longer autoruns |
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| 01:49.06 | Busko | ahh oki |
| 01:49.07 | Ellipsis | Busko: if anything is on cooldown the time should show in the tooltip |
| 01:49.14 | Ellipsis | if that doesn't work, try rescanning cooldowns |
| 01:49.18 | Busko | ok will check |
| 01:49.35 | kenlyric | is there an issue with modifier keybindings? |
| 01:49.42 | QuantumDelta | sorry Antiarc was away for a minute ;\ |
| 01:49.46 | Antiarc | No worries |
| 01:50.14 | QuantumDelta | I was wondering if you had any clue about the whole pet threat insanity or if there'd be anyway to help you find out what's wrong? |
| 01:50.43 | Antiarc | Well, I know what I changed, so I've been looking at that |
| 01:50.47 | Antiarc | I haven't been able to replicate it though :( |
| 01:51.15 | QuantumDelta | hmm oO |
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| 01:51.30 | QuantumDelta | any way we can help out? |
| 01:51.39 | Vires | Updated Parrot still does the odd thing where it shows "Pet" damage even though I don't have a pet... and the fact that even if I did it wouldn't be Mortal Striking for 2000? |
| 01:51.44 | NimbleRabit | anyone else having problems with the stealth bar in bartender? |
| 01:52.18 | Vires | Latest update to Bartender stopped Modality from functioning.. so my bars aren't working like they should, atm =/ |
| 01:52.40 | NimbleRabit | yeah I'm having problems too |
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| 01:53.04 | SaladFork | rawr |
| 01:53.10 | Ellipsis | ^-^ |
| 01:53.10 | NimbleRabit | the graphics change but the buttons don't actually change |
| 01:53.12 | NimbleRabit | best I can explain it |
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| 01:56.57 | sedai| | hmm cartographer isnt working |
| 01:57.24 | sedai| | its ina folder called Package_Cartographer |
| 01:57.37 | QuantumDelta | tried deleting/reinstalling? or installing from the non-packedged version? |
| 01:57.45 | sedai| | ill try |
| 01:57.56 | CIA-22 | 03ackis * r49960 10AltClickToAddItem/ (AltClickToAddItem.lua AltClickToAddItem.toc): |
| 01:57.56 | CIA-22 | AltClickToAddItem: |
| 01:57.56 | CIA-22 | - Updated with permission of Grennon |
| 01:57.56 | CIA-22 | - Updated TOC for 2.2 |
| 01:57.56 | CIA-22 | - Added alt-click to buy a stack of reagents |
| 01:58.05 | sedai| | but then i blem the auto install in the update program |
| 01:59.12 | QuantumDelta | as long as it gets it working sedai ;p |
| 01:59.40 | QuantumDelta | nothing we can help with then Antiarc? |
| 01:59.51 | Antiarc | I can't think of anything :( |
| 02:00.07 | QuantumDelta | no probs, I'm sure you'll nail it soon enough |
| 02:02.08 | Busko | Ellipsis anotehr question for you |
| 02:02.11 | Ellipsis | sup |
| 02:02.19 | Busko | is it posible to remove the skill info |
| 02:02.23 | Kaelten | TOC: is 20200 |
| 02:02.24 | Kaelten | right? |
| 02:02.25 | Busko | like 1/75 |
| 02:02.27 | Ellipsis | in the tooltip? |
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| 02:02.32 | Ellipsis | I think there's an option for that |
| 02:03.02 | Ellipsis | don't remember off the top of my head |
| 02:03.02 | Busko | yea when u drag it over the icon yea |
| 02:03.02 | Recluse | 20200 yes |
| 02:03.22 | Wobwork | actually, I don't see what's wrong with FuBarAce |
| 02:03.34 | Ellipsis | in what sense, Wobwork? >_> |
| 02:03.46 | Wobwork | it just basically prevents WAU from overwriting the Fubar with the Rock version |
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| 02:03.59 | Wobwork | aside from that, it's basically the tagged version |
| 02:04.19 | Ellipsis | if users wanted the tagged version they should set that up themselves |
| 02:04.27 | Ellipsis | the name alone is a bad idea IMO |
| 02:04.30 | Wobwork | well that's what they've done... |
| 02:04.33 | sedai| | um i tried to use the latest cartographer adn and rock pops up telling me to either report or donate... |
| 02:04.38 | LetheKai | Hello folks, may I ask a dumb question? =) |
| 02:04.43 | Ellipsis | I thought the whole point was to move away from users choosing addons by framework |
| 02:04.47 | hyperChipmunk | you just did |
| 02:04.50 | Ellipsis | LetheKai: |
| 02:04.51 | Ellipsis | ~asktoask |
| 02:04.52 | purl | This is IRC. Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question and if someone's around, they'll be glad to help. |
| 02:05.03 | hyperChipmunk | but you can ask another one if it's on-topic |
| 02:05.15 | LetheKai | Err... |
| 02:05.20 | hyperChipmunk | >8) |
| 02:05.35 | hyperChipmunk | I'm just givin' ya a hard time |
| 02:05.37 | hyperChipmunk | what's up? |
| 02:05.41 | Wobwork | Ellipsis: actually, the whole drive was towards agnostic libraries, so that, really, the framework didn't matter. |
| 02:05.48 | LetheKai | I was GOING to ask if using WAU would fix most these issues I'm having with mods and the new patch. |
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| 02:06.00 | sedai| | its cartographer updated? |
| 02:06.02 | Wobwork | Which everyone seems to gloss over |
| 02:06.03 | LetheKai | What's the ~asktoask thing? Hehe, just type that? |
| 02:06.04 | sedai| | i get an arror |
| 02:06.11 | Ellipsis | that's part of it Wobwork, but I was under the impression it wasn't just the Dongle people that wanted users to be less aware of frameworks in general |
| 02:06.19 | sedai| | rock pops up when i try to use the cartographer menu |
| 02:06.27 | hyperChipmunk | purl's our bot; it's something we say so often that it's easier to just have him say it for us |
| 02:06.42 | LetheKai | Ohh, I kind of got that after I hit enter just now. Sorry. Sigh. |
| 02:06.53 | Ellipsis | sedai|: Rock Config is the configuration method for Cartographer |
| 02:07.00 | sedai| | ooooh |
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| 02:07.10 | sedai| | thats how long i havent really messed with mods |
| 02:07.11 | sedai| | heh |
| 02:07.16 | Vires | ~wau |
| 02:07.17 | purl | hmm... wau is WowAceUpdater, found at http://www.wowace.com/wau/publish.htm - Easy mass update to all the addons you have installed from the Wowace repository, where many Ace addons reside. |
| 02:07.56 | itafroma | hey, has anyone experienced wow crashing to the desktop when clicking on the Rock minimap icon? |
| 02:08.05 | LetheKai | Well mine and my boyfriend's UIs basically blew up after this patch (funky Blizzard UI sizing issue apart). Wandering around seeking help. Hehe. |
| 02:08.14 | hyperChipmunk | ~whaleslap LetheKai |
| 02:08.15 | purl | ACTION beats LetheKai upside and over the head with a freakishly huge killer whale named Hugh |
| 02:08.18 | Ellipsis | itafroma: no, that's very unusual and very bad |
| 02:08.26 | Wobwork | It's not that people shouldn't care what framework is being used, it's that it shouldn't matter, that the library would work despite what framework is under it |
| 02:08.27 | itafroma | I would tend to agree |
| 02:08.28 | LetheKai | Poor whale. =( |
| 02:08.33 | Ellipsis | unfortunately it's also Blizzard's fault if any addon crashes the game |
| 02:08.44 | RaydenUni | http://onefile.raydenuni.com/one_file/onefile/1/WoWScrnShot_092607_190351.jpg <-- it appears orc shoulders are big again |
| 02:08.53 | RaydenUni | but bigger than the orc? |
| 02:09.03 | sedai| | thanks Ellipsis :) |
| 02:09.11 | Wobwork | RaydenUni: http://www.gucomics.com/comics/2007/gu_20070919.jpg |
| 02:09.11 | itafroma | Ellipsis: What information would be helpful to whom in order to determine what's the problem? |
| 02:09.21 | Camci | Anyone uses Parrot ? |
| 02:09.22 | Ellipsis | itafroma: you can post a ticket on jira to inform ckknight of the issue, include as much system information as possible (OS, etc.) |
| 02:09.22 | xyu` | Hmm i just noticed a bug we/ clique (i think). I can't decurse on my mage w/ clique unless i first target the cursed frame |
| 02:09.27 | xyu` | and then click |
| 02:09.48 | Ellipsis | ~jira |
| 02:09.58 | Ellipsis | o.O |
| 02:10.10 | Wobwork | jira.wowace.com |
| 02:10.12 | sedai| | cartographer is giving me errors :( |
| 02:10.18 | Ellipsis | purl, jira is jira.wowace.com |
| 02:10.18 | purl | Ellipsis: okay |
| 02:10.39 | Wobwork | itafroma: if you have the time and inclination, you could possibly narrow down which rock addon is causing it |
| 02:10.39 | Camci | Noone here uses Parrot? got a question :) |
| 02:10.39 | Ellipsis | someone else can make that more informative later |
| 02:10.45 | Ellipsis | Camci |
| 02:10.47 | Ellipsis | ~asktoask |
| 02:10.48 | purl | This is IRC. Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question and if someone's around, they'll be glad to help. |
| 02:10.52 | Busko | bla dosent work as i want it to :( |
| 02:10.57 | Wobwork | itafroma: by disabling half of them at a time to see if they all crash |
| 02:11.00 | Camci | haha |
| 02:11.01 | Camci | ok :P |
| 02:11.14 | Busko | i switch to anotehr char Ellipsis but it dosent show me the cooldown |
| 02:11.22 | Busko | but on my tailor it show it |
| 02:11.24 | LetheKai | So are they Rock addons now instead of Ace2 addons? =x This Rock thing took me by surprise. |
| 02:11.30 | SaladFork | perl, shut up |
| 02:11.31 | Ellipsis | Busko, I haven't tried multiple characters, I don't know if it's meant to track those |
| 02:11.45 | Camci | i made a new Scroll area in Parrot, so taht only mana gain will show there |
| 02:11.55 | itafroma | is there a definitive list of what's using Rock instead of ace2? It's been a frustrating couple of hours trying to determine what needs what |
| 02:11.55 | Camci | but i cant seem to find that "event"... |
| 02:12.01 | Wobwork | SaladFork: You realise you're telling a bot to shutup? =P |
| 02:12.06 | SaladFork | Wob - that used to be a command |
| 02:12.09 | SaladFork | Perhaps it was "shush" |
| 02:12.11 | SaladFork | purl, shush |
| 02:12.11 | purl | Fine, I'll shut up. |
| 02:12.11 | Ellipsis | purl, shut up |
| 02:12.12 | purl | as you wish, master ellipsis |
| 02:12.13 | Ellipsis | lol |
| 02:12.16 | Busko | ok well i will go and play with it a bit thanx for your help Ellipsis |
| 02:12.21 | Ellipsis | ~lart SaladFork |
| 02:12.21 | purl | accelerates a free AOL cd to 50,000 rpm and lets SaladFork feel it |
| 02:12.28 | Ellipsis | pwned =] |
| 02:12.35 | Wobwork | totally =P |
| 02:12.42 | Ellipsis | !vs us aerie peak SaladFork us cenarius Ellipsis |
| 02:12.49 | ThraeBot | Ellipsis: Saladfork vs Ellipsis! A L70 mage and a L70 warlock square off!; 10/0/51 vs 43/0/18; Saladfork wins by 872 TBRs! ***OWNED!*** |
| 02:12.53 | Ellipsis | haha |
| 02:13.00 | SaladFork | Wow |
| 02:13.00 | Ellipsis | saw that coming a mile away |
| 02:13.02 | SaladFork | Warlocks usually win |
| 02:13.07 | Ellipsis | my gear is absolutely horrid |
| 02:13.11 | SaladFork | But ~900 TBRs? |
| 02:13.12 | SaladFork | Woohoo |
| 02:13.14 | Ellipsis | !c US Cenarius Ellipsis |
| 02:13.15 | ThraeBot | Ellipsis: Ellipsis, Level 70 Human Warlock (43/0/18). 7200 HP; 7810 Mana; 136 mana regen; 38 spell crit; 58 spell hit; 434 +spell dmg/heal; 179 frost dmg (613); 179 shadow dmg (613); 4.36% dodge;[[ TBR: 876 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/yuuupd ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/2q7kuc ][ Updated: Wed Sep 26 22:27:38 2007 EST ]] |
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| 02:13.23 | SaladFork | Heh |
| 02:13.25 | hyperChipmunk | what's a tbr? |
| 02:13.26 | Camci | heh.. where do you get this kind of bots? |
| 02:13.28 | SaladFork | ~tbr |
| 02:13.29 | purl | hmm... tbr is ThraeBot Ratings -- a ThraeBot innovation. Working on a PvP-oriented weighted algorithm for what stats the Armoury currently has for your character, partially modified by build-type, it can be used to pit two characters in TBR vs TBR combat, and tries try to take into account which classes are fighting. (or "to be released") |
| 02:13.29 | Wobwork | I think warlocks are hardcoded to win with thraebot =P |
| 02:13.32 | Camci | purl |
| 02:13.36 | SaladFork | Wob - they usually are |
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| 02:13.47 | SaladFork | !c us aerie peak saladfork |
| 02:13.47 | ThraeBot | SaladFork: Saladfork, Level 70 Troll Mage (10/0/51). 6793 HP; 7466 Mana; 126 mana regen; 208 spell crit; 116 spell hit; 654 +spell dmg/heal; 254 frost dmg (908); 179 shadow dmg (833); 5.34% dodge; 78 resilience; +3 all resists;[[ TBR: 1746 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/ynsgo5 ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/2j56t4 ][ Updated: Wed Sep 26 22:27:33 2007 EST ]] |
| 02:13.48 | hyperChipmunk | lol |
| 02:13.53 | Ellipsis | Camci: mana gain is probably named "power gain" |
| 02:14.42 | hyperChipmunk | !vs us cenarius SaladFork us feathermoon Mynithrosil |
| 02:14.42 | ThraeBot | hyperChipmunk: I failed on the first listed character. You fail. |
| 02:14.57 | hyperChipmunk | !vs us aerie peak SaladFork us feathermoon Mynithrosil |
| 02:15.00 | ThraeBot | hyperChipmunk: Saladfork vs Mynithrosil! A L70 mage and a L70 hunter square off!; 10/0/51 vs 11/0/50; Saladfork wins by 944 TBRs! ***OWNED!*** |
| 02:15.06 | hyperChipmunk | wootif |
| 02:15.10 | SaladFork | Hehe |
| 02:15.11 | SaladFork | Dominated. |
| 02:15.14 | SaladFork | Silly hunter |
| 02:15.17 | hyperChipmunk | dude |
| 02:15.26 | Wobwork | Thrae has stated that the tbr for hunters is not precise |
| 02:15.30 | hyperChipmunk | the day a mage beats me 1v1 is the day i hang up my bow |
| 02:15.33 | hyperChipmunk | gun |
| 02:15.34 | Wobwork | since he has no idea about weighting |
| 02:15.38 | SaladFork | hyper - I have yet to lose to a hunter in-game |
| 02:15.42 | SaladFork | Hunters and warriors = free HKs |
| 02:15.50 | Vires | !vs us Terenas Daemonx US Cenarius Ellipsis |
| 02:15.52 | ThraeBot | Vires: Daemonx vs Ellipsis! Two 70 warlocks square off!; 19/0/42 vs 43/0/18; Ellipsis wins by 32 TBRs! |
| 02:16.00 | Ellipsis | wow |
| 02:16.00 | Vires | -.- |
| 02:16.03 | Ellipsis | I won something? |
| 02:16.09 | Vires | By 32... |
| 02:16.09 | Ellipsis | that's a first... |
| 02:16.10 | Vires | lol |
| 02:16.11 | Camci | what does this Thraebot do anyway? |
| 02:16.15 | Ellipsis | other than the random chance one |
| 02:16.19 | SaladFork | Camci - Everything |
| 02:16.24 | SaladFork | It looks up items, characters, etc. |
| 02:16.26 | Ellipsis | except your laundry |
| 02:16.27 | SaladFork | !i spellstrike hood |
| 02:16.28 | ThraeBot | SaladFork: Name: Spellstrike Hood; Rarity: Epic (Purple); BoE; Cloth Headdress; +16 Stamina; +12 Intellect; 1 Blue socket(s); 1 Yellow socket(s); 1 Red socket(s); +6 Stamina socket bonus; Requires L70; 60 Durability; +24 CritSpellRating; +16 HitSpellRating; Equip: Increases damage and healing done by magical spells and effects by up to 46.; Spellstrike Infusion Set; |
| 02:16.28 | ThraeBot | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:16.29 | SaladFork | For example |
| 02:16.31 | itafroma | Another question: is there a reason why Rock mods aren't specifying their dependencies? I've had to more or less go through trial and error to determine which mods need which libs |
| 02:16.33 | Camci | !vs steamwheedle cartel Camci |
| 02:16.35 | hyperChipmunk | !c us feathermoon mynithrosil |
| 02:16.35 | ThraeBot | hyperChipmunk: Mynithrosil, Level 70 Night Elf Hunter (11/0/50). 13211 HP; 5353 Mana; 79 mana regen; 5711 Armour; 1034 AP; 171.400 Melee DPS; 19.46% melee crit; 19 melee hit; 981 RAP; 221.80 Ranged DPS; 19.46% ranged crit; 19 ranged hit; 35 defense; 30.37% dodge; 97 resilience; 5 nature resist (+10);[[ TBR: 952 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/2csacy ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/2nfeud ][ Updated: Wed Sep 26 22:29:48 2007 EST ]] |
| 02:16.36 | Camci | err |
| 02:16.41 | NimbleRabit | so any insight into this bartender problem with the stealthbar buttons not workign |
| 02:16.47 | RaydenUni | i want enormous shoulders |
| 02:16.51 | Camci | !c eu steamwheedle cartel camci |
| 02:16.54 | ThraeBot | Camci: Camci, Level 70 Undead Priest (27/34/0). 8251 HP; 11070 Mana; 384 mana regen; 147 mp5; 4 spell crit; 42 +spell dmg; 1616 +heal; 4.90% dodge; 10 shadow resist (+10);[[ TBR: 988 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/yr7onf ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/33m9uu ][ Updated: Wed Sep 26 22:31:42 2007 EST ]] |
| 02:16.54 | Ellipsis | itafroma: erm, which ones specifically? |
| 02:17.09 | hyperChipmunk | yes, 13211 hp; you'll go oom before you kill me, you punk mage |
| 02:17.09 | itafroma | I've noticed it on prat and cartographer off the top of my head |
| 02:17.30 | SaladFork | hyper - Have you ever even fought a frost mage? |
| 02:17.33 | Ellipsis | Prat is not Rock |
| 02:17.42 | SaladFork | Most of you hunters are scared shitless of us, XD |
| 02:17.49 | itafroma | okay, what is Rock? Is there a list somewhere? |
| 02:17.57 | SaladFork | http://www.wowace.com/wiki/Rock |
| 02:17.58 | SaladFork | .wiki Rock |
| 02:18.12 | hyperChipmunk | yes; dude, i don't care what kind of mage you are. you all die |
| 02:18.17 | itafroma | Uh, I mean, what mods use Rock |
| 02:18.19 | RaydenUni | holy crap |
| 02:18.21 | Ellipsis | ~rock |
| 02:18.21 | purl | well, rock is an addon framework for World of Warcraft written by ckknight. More information is available at http://wowace.com/wiki/Rock. It is also an object best not thrown in glass houses. what we're all about, it's what we live for, c'mon and shout it out |
| 02:18.24 | itafroma | I know what Rock is, per se |
| 02:18.26 | Ellipsis | bleh |
| 02:18.28 | SaladFork | hyper - Oh yes, we die a lot |
| 02:18.30 | SaladFork | But not to hunters |
| 02:18.31 | Wobwork | eg, Thraebot does not take into consideration build for hunters |
| 02:18.31 | RaydenUni | the p2p army is on the move, i just downloaded 76mb of the patch in about 5 seconds |
| 02:18.35 | SaladFork | Hmm |
| 02:18.35 | Ellipsis | ckknight's addons - PitBull, CowTip, Cartographer, FuBar |
| 02:18.36 | SaladFork | ~saladfork |
| 02:18.37 | purl | rumour has it, saladfork is asleep |
| 02:18.41 | SaladFork | Is he now? |
| 02:18.41 | Ellipsis | and the one other I always forget |
| 02:18.48 | Wobwork | SaladFork: hush, you're asleep |
| 02:18.50 | SaladFork | Ellipsis - Parrot |
| 02:18.54 | Ellipsis | that's the one |
| 02:18.57 | hyperChipmunk | i don't think i technically qualify as a hunter actually |
| 02:19.02 | Ellipsis | funny that I use it on a regular basis but still can't remember it >_< |
| 02:19.03 | itafroma | Oh, that's the one I meant |
| 02:19.07 | itafroma | Cartographer and Parrot |
| 02:19.09 | itafroma | not prat |
| 02:19.16 | itafroma | apologies |
| 02:19.26 | hyperChipmunk | more a bottomless pit of hp |
| 02:19.31 | SaladFork | purl, no saladfork is not asleep |
| 02:19.31 | purl | okay, SaladFork |
| 02:19.35 | SaladFork | ~saladfork |
| 02:19.36 | purl | somebody said saladfork was not asleep |
| 02:19.37 | Ellipsis | I see what you mean about the missing OptDeps, itafroma - but the X-Embeds should be helpful at least |
| 02:19.41 | SaladFork | Better |
| 02:19.41 | Camci | so is there a way to get ThraeBot and put it on a like another mirc channel? |
| 02:19.48 | hyperChipmunk | talk to Thrae |
| 02:19.55 | Wobwork | Camci: You'd have to host the bot yourself |
| 02:20.03 | LetheKai | I'm downloading WAU now, but I wanted to ask if anyone else has experienced keybinding issues after the patch? It may be particular to Bartender3, or just my setup. My keybindings basically failed, everything except movement. |
| 02:20.13 | Camci | i see |
| 02:20.17 | Camci | host is no problem |
| 02:20.29 | SaladFork | purl, Ellipsis is insane |
| 02:20.30 | purl | SaladFork: okay |
| 02:20.33 | SaladFork | Win. |
| 02:20.33 | Wobwork | Camci: there's always #thraebot |
| 02:20.54 | AnduinLothar | anyone have an issue where you can't open the gem window from baggins? |
| 02:21.02 | SaladFork | Camci - You can /msg ThraeBot and it'll respond |
| 02:21.02 | Camci | aah |
| 02:21.02 | Antiarc | ckknight: You know about Unknown entries showing as Pet in Parrot? |
| 02:21.19 | itafroma | oh, with fubar, since it's now on Rock, any fubar plugins have to be rewritten as well? |
| 02:21.20 | hyperChipmunk | AnduinLothar: gem window? |
| 02:21.23 | Camci | lol |
| 02:21.27 | Wobwork | Thraebot's cool, she also does item information, and pricing |
| 02:21.35 | AnduinLothar | the socketing window |
| 02:21.47 | LetheKai | I'm guessing no, nobody else has had keybinding issues. O.o |
| 02:21.48 | AnduinLothar | shift-right-click |
| 02:21.52 | Vires | LetheKai: Check your bindings. For all we know, they reset those too... |
| 02:22.05 | Wobwork | AnduinLothar: Oh, to socket a gem? |
| 02:22.09 | AnduinLothar | yes |
| 02:22.10 | LetheKai | I can't, when I click keybindings it crashes WoW. XD |
| 02:22.21 | Wobwork | I haven't tried that since the patch |
| 02:22.48 | hyperChipmunk | works fine for me |
| 02:22.59 | Vires | o.0 |
| 02:23.10 | hyperChipmunk | not sure what it has to do with baggins though |
| 02:23.21 | AnduinLothar | it may jsut be an issue with the window |
| 02:23.27 | hyperChipmunk | i have baggins |
| 02:23.36 | AnduinLothar | but i didn't move itwith fluid frames, so i can't think fo a good reason |
| 02:23.50 | hyperChipmunk | shift-rclicking a socketed item in my bag with or without gems both works fine |
| 02:23.50 | AnduinLothar | reload doesn't help |
| 02:24.02 | Camci | !c eu steamwheedle cartel jandér |
| 02:24.02 | ThraeBot | Camci: jandér is not the character you are looking for! |
| 02:24.09 | Camci | -.- |
| 02:24.15 | Camci | !c eu steamwheedle cartel jander |
| 02:24.16 | ThraeBot | Camci: jander is not the character you are looking for! |
| 02:24.27 | Camci | okey |
| 02:24.28 | hyperChipmunk | owned |
| 02:24.51 | hyperChipmunk | stupid super-ascii characters |
| 02:25.01 | Camci | !c eu steamwheedle cartel kallesan |
| 02:25.03 | ThraeBot | Camci: Kallesan, Level 70 Tauren Warrior (6/6/49). 15124 HP; 15548 Armour; 752 AP; 102.700 Melee DPS; 12.50% melee crit; 360 defense; 22.72% dodge; 33.75% block; 11 nature resist (+10);[[ TBR: 1073 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/2xac72 ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/2sk2cy ][ Updated: Wed Sep 26 22:39:52 2007 EST ]] |
| 02:25.25 | CIA-22 | 03kaelten * r49961 10cgProfiler/profile/profile.lua: cgProfiler: Updated TOC fixed a few bugs in user profiling |
| 02:25.37 | CIA-22 | 03krakhaan * r49962 10AFX/ (AFX.lua AFX.toc localization.lua readme.txt soundlib.lua): |
| 02:25.37 | CIA-22 | AFX: |
| 02:25.37 | CIA-22 | - see readme.txt |
| 02:29.41 | itafroma | hm, every Rock mod disabled save for the libs, still crashes |
| 02:30.28 | LetheKai | Is there a way to track the update progress of WAU? I'm probably blind and not seeing the obvious. |
| 02:32.29 | RaydenUni | http://www.gucomics.com/comic/?cdate=20070731 <-- this is very nice and subtle |
| 02:32.40 | RaydenUni | LetheKai you mean the updating text output? |
| 02:33.20 | LetheKai | Sure. I wanna know how far along it is, updating. Only way I can tell so far is the error messages when it's having problems updating a certain mod (I guess it's in the C's now). |
| 02:33.39 | RaydenUni | mine tells me once it was succesful updating one |
| 02:33.49 | CIA-22 | 03krakhaan * r49963 10CraftBot/ (6 files): |
| 02:33.49 | CIA-22 | CraftBot: |
| 02:33.49 | CIA-22 | - updated toc for 2.2 |
| 02:34.00 | CIA-22 | 03ackis * r49964 10AltClickToAddItem/AltClickToAddItem.lua: |
| 02:34.00 | CIA-22 | AltClickToAddItem: |
| 02:34.00 | CIA-22 | - Updated with Grennon's code (his SVN isn't working) |
| 02:34.41 | CIA-22 | 03krakhaan * r49965 10CraftBotFu/CraftBotFu.toc: |
| 02:34.41 | CIA-22 | CraftBotFu: |
| 02:34.41 | CIA-22 | - updated toc for 2.2 |
| 02:34.51 | LetheKai | Wow, really? Mine must not be succeeding at anything. |
| 02:35.00 | Azure | bah... i hate that crappy Software Sound Engine.. it sounds like.. crap. |
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| 02:35.23 | LetheKai | Right now my Cox Cable is being pretty bad. Like, 14.4k dial-up bad. |
| 02:37.12 | LetheKai | Yay I got something successfully! Cartographer_Data. The rest are failing lol. |
| 02:39.21 | CIA-22 | 03kaelten * r49966 10cgProfiler/cgProfiler.toc: cgProfiler: really update the toc |
| 02:39.52 | CIA-22 | 03krakhaan * r49967 10AB/ (14 files in 3 dirs): |
| 02:39.52 | CIA-22 | AB: initial commit |
| 02:39.52 | CIA-22 | - Advance Broadcaster automatically send a unlimited number of messages to their designated channels and intervals. |
| 02:39.52 | CIA-22 | . |
| 02:39.58 | LetheKai | It's a bit late, but nice link RaydenUni. XD |
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| 02:40.23 | RaydenUni | no idea how those huge suckers always sneak up on you |
| 02:41.04 | LetheKai | True story. |
| 02:42.31 | Wobwork | RaydenUni: hehe great comic |
| 02:42.55 | LetheKai | Anyone else here use Cox Cable? |
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| 02:44.05 | PProvost_ | Anyone seeing errors on Omen? We're in Gruul and everything in hosed. |
| 02:45.04 | LetheKai | Now that's bad luck. |
| 02:45.14 | LetheKai | Sorry, I use KTM. |
| 02:45.47 | Vires | ...lol |
| 02:45.51 | LetheKai | Hehe, just got a mental image of the chipmunk in Over The Hedge. |
| 02:45.54 | CIA-22 | 03krakhaan * r49968 10AB/: |
| 02:45.54 | CIA-22 | AB: |
| 02:45.54 | CIA-22 | - added ChatThrottleLib as extern |
| 02:46.19 | Kemayo | AltClickToAddItem is one of those things which surprises me for using Ace2... |
| 02:48.22 | Speeddymon | what class has Tranquility? |
| 02:48.27 | NightHawkTheSane | druid |
| 02:48.33 | Speeddymon | kk thx |
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| 02:53.18 | CIA-22 | 03krakhaan * r49969 10ABFu/ (25 files in 9 dirs): |
| 02:53.18 | CIA-22 | ABFu: initial commit |
| 02:53.18 | CIA-22 | - FuBar plugin for Advance Broadcaster |
| 02:55.45 | Trae | Is there a good mail mod that let's you mail tons of crap to your mule at once besides ctmailmod? |
| 02:56.38 | hyperChipmunk | ... |
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| 02:57.13 | Wobwork | Trae: yes =P |
| 02:57.30 | Wobwork | That rodent over there wrote it himself |
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| 02:57.50 | hyperChipmunk | unless you don't like it |
| 02:57.53 | hyperChipmunk | then wobin wrote it |
| 02:58.17 | Wobwork | Oh, so it's -my- kid now? |
| 02:58.21 | LetheKai | I use BulkMail2. |
| 02:58.26 | hyperChipmunk | only if he doesn't like it |
| 02:58.36 | hyperChipmunk | LetheKai: <3 |
| 02:58.46 | LetheKai | lol, All of a sudden. |
| 02:58.47 | LetheKai | ;P |
| 02:58.56 | LetheKai | You wrote it huh Chip? Thanks. =) |
| 02:59.24 | hyperChipmunk | >8D |
| 02:59.42 | hyperChipmunk | glad someone else actually uses it |
| 03:00.31 | CIA-22 | 03bam * r49970 10ItemPrice-1.1/ (. ItemPrice-1.1.lua ItemPrice-1.1.toc): |
| 03:00.31 | CIA-22 | ItemPrice-1.1: |
| 03:00.31 | CIA-22 | - Now uses LibStub |
| 03:00.31 | CIA-22 | - Price methods now return 0 for items with no sell value and return nil for unknown items. |
| 03:00.31 | CIA-22 | - Price updates |
| 03:01.55 | ulic | BulkMail > All |
| 03:02.39 | Seerah | Postal ftw |
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| 03:04.02 | Seerah | hurray, I can log into Curse! <3 Kaelten |
| 03:04.03 | hyperChipmunk | ~whalelemmings Seerah |
| 03:04.04 | purl | ACTION 's jaw drops as an army of lemmings escape the mouth of a rather sizeable whale named Remus. The army tramples Seerah |
| 03:04.12 | PProvost | Yeah, it looks like people in our raid right now who are running and older Omen are seeing good thread display but those of us who updated before the run are seeing a mess. |
| 03:05.48 | NightHawkTheSane | PProvost: ... thats totally not what I wanted to hear, when i just updated and am about to raid. >< |
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| 03:05.52 | LetheKai | Woohoo, Cox says there's a fiber cut in our area, there's no ETA on it being fixed, and our net will be the next thing closest to down in the meanwhile. Sooo, we're gonna go order WingStop and finally watch Napoleon Dynamite! Thanks for the, err, help everyone. |
| 03:06.06 | CIA-22 | 03bam * r49971 10ItemPriceTooltip/ (ItemPriceTooltip.lua ItemPriceTooltip.toc Libs/ embeds.xml): |
| 03:06.06 | CIA-22 | ItemPriceTooltip: |
| 03:06.06 | CIA-22 | - Now uses ItemPrice-1.1 |
| 03:06.06 | CIA-22 | - Shows "No sell price" for items that are known and have no recorded price |
| 03:06.12 | LetheKai | PProvost: Almost all my updated mods have been malfunctioning, sorry to hear it's not just me. |
| 03:13.10 | ckknight | so Blizz fucked up parsing, apparently |
| 03:13.12 | ckknight | *sigh* |
| 03:13.48 | Killmore | ckknight: thats why with parrot everyone of my raid is considering a pet ? |
| 03:13.56 | ckknight | yes |
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| 03:15.31 | Fisker- | i told oyu one billion years ago :/ |
| 03:16.36 | ckknight | no, you didn't |
| 03:16.48 | Fisker- | well almost |
| 03:20.25 | PProvost | Sorry NightHawkTheSane and LetheKai, it's certainlly giving us grief right now. |
| 03:22.08 | NightHawkTheSane | :\ |
| 03:22.50 | PProvost | I keep checking back here hoping for an update on Threat, 'cause it is the same in Violation too |
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| 03:28.51 | Trae | Wobin, heh so what addon is it? |
| 03:29.15 | Trae | BulkMail? |
| 03:31.17 | Silowyi | So ProFTPD allows you to deny logins to people who don't use FTP SSL/TLS. It also has this nifty feature to prevent timing attacks that determines the time between the last USER and PASS command, and pads the response so an outsider can't guess the password length. |
| 03:32.00 | Silowyi | Problem is, if a user tries to log in WITHOUT SSL/TLS, there's no PASS command, so the "delay" ends up being equal to the session timeout... |
| 03:32.06 | CIA-22 | 03kemayo * r49972 10PartyToGo/PartyToGo.toc: PartyToGo: TOC. |
| 03:32.28 | *** join/#wowace Codayus (i=chaoshaw@even.the.kittens.hate-you.net) |
| 03:32.43 | Silowyi | Which means that for all future login attempts, the server times out the connection before before responding to the USER command. |
| 03:32.59 | Silowyi | W...T...F were they smoking when they came up with this "feature". |
| 03:33.26 | Vires | I dunno but they should share. |
| 03:33.48 | sylvanaar | i love bulkmail2 |
| 03:33.51 | Silowyi | Easiest DoS ever. Just send a USER command, never send a PASS, and leave the connection open until the server times out. Boom, good luck logging in. |
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| 03:34.44 | Silowyi | the best part is that the delay is stored in a file, so even if you reboot the server, it still won't let anyone log in |
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| 03:37.13 | ccarlton | Icehud has the tooltip onEnter bug, can someone look at my suggested fix, and possibly make the change to the svn? |
| 03:37.36 | ccarlton | http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=8689.msg143000#msg143000 |
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| 03:49.53 | Sparhawke | is a'lar still ugged really? |
| 03:49.58 | Sparhawke | bugged |
| 03:52.07 | aestil | dunno, doing ssc tonight. |
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| 03:52.46 | Antiarc | Yes, Al'ar is still buggefd |
| 03:53.01 | Antiarc | Solarian is pretty hilarious right now |
| 03:53.09 | Antiarc | The debuff is the most obnoxious thing ever |
| 03:53.28 | Antiarc | We think it could only be more obvious if Kalgan were to call you on the phone and yell YOU HAVE WRATH OF THE ASTROMANCER |
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| 03:56.58 | TecnoBrat | Al'ar is still bugged |
| 03:58.54 | kandarz | I def blew up all the rogues antiarc |
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| 04:03.14 | NightHawkTheSane | Hmm, is there a way to use an item in a macro without spelling out the entire item name? |
| 04:04.32 | sylvanaar | [22:59:52] No player named '<Playername>-' is currently playing. |
| 04:05.29 | Antiarc | NightHawkTheSane: You can use the item ID |
| 04:05.46 | NightHawkTheSane | Antiarc: ugly, but that'll work. thanks |
| 04:06.23 | NightHawkTheSane | just got my nether ddrake, and it's full name is waaaaay too long for my mount macro |
| 04:06.40 | Paene | I wish I could use sRF as my party frames too...it'd make things so much easier |
| 04:06.44 | Paene | er |
| 04:06.46 | Paene | not easier |
| 04:06.49 | Paene | simpiler |
| 04:07.13 | Vires | Shift click put the item name in for you like it does for spells? |
| 04:07.16 | Vires | I forget |
| 04:08.50 | kandarz | could someone explain "hooks" to me? I'm confused on what they do exactly |
| 04:09.23 | Vires | Allows you to bind to a secure function so you can do stuff when it triggers. like the jump counter. |
| 04:09.36 | Vires | err |
| 04:10.13 | NightHawkTheSane | you more or less take substitute your own function in for the one you're hooking |
| 04:10.42 | Vires | yeah, what he said.. I over complicated it thinking you were trying to hook secure functions |
| 04:10.42 | NightHawkTheSane | so when the game calls someFunction() your own function gets called, and then you can do what you want to do in there, and call the original (which you'll likely always want to do) |
| 04:12.49 | kandarz | so basically instead of modifying a frame to call my function, I hook the function to call my function? |
| 04:13.23 | kandarz | QuestFrameCompleteQuestButton:SetScript("OnClick", function() .... |
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| 04:14.23 | kandarz | becomes: self:Hook("QuestFrameCompleteQuestButton_OnClick", "Hooks_QuestFrameCompleteQuestButton_OnClick", true) |
| 04:14.36 | TNSe | what happened to files.wowace.com? :P |
| 04:15.50 | yssaril | TNSe: whats wrong with it? |
| 04:16.25 | TNSe | I see nothing listed |
| 04:16.55 | Killmore | TecnoBrat: whats happen with alar ? |
| 04:17.25 | yssaril | TNSe: works fine for me try deleting your offline data? |
| 04:18.09 | yssaril | <--- using firefox |
| 04:18.35 | TNSe | something on that page is very bad |
| 04:18.39 | TNSe | very faulty |
| 04:18.49 | TNSe | opera just went into 100% cpu usage on it |
| 04:19.14 | yssaril | TNSe: might be a bad AD? |
| 04:19.26 | TNSe | hmm |
| 04:19.54 | yssaril | TNSe: works fine on Firefox and IE for me so idk |
| 04:20.17 | TNSe | that doesn't work in opera |
| 04:20.21 | TNSe | totally broken |
| 04:20.34 | Arcaia | press ctrl+f5 |
| 04:20.41 | Arcaia | universal hard-refresh |
| 04:20.44 | Arcaia | donno. |
| 04:21.47 | TNSe | page is botched in opera 9.21 |
| 04:22.26 | TNSe | the script goes into 100% cpu usage |
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| 04:22.37 | TNSe | unending loop in some resize code or something |
| 04:26.32 | CIA-22 | 03next96 * r49973 10Assessment/Modules/ (BarInterface.lua Offline.lua): |
| 04:26.32 | CIA-22 | Assessments : |
| 04:26.32 | CIA-22 | - Update locale koKR |
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| 04:30.16 | Olison | :< |
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| 04:32.16 | CIA-22 | 03antiarc * r49974 10Omen/OmenDisplay.lua: Omen: Get rid of the phantom tooltips. |
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| 04:38.06 | Killmore | Olison: my omen is working fine :\ Everyone in my raid is using the lastest version and everything was fine tonight :\ not you ? |
| 04:38.29 | Neebler | hmm for my old AGP machine, should I buy a Radeon X1950pro or a GeForce 7800GS, I cant decide! |
| 04:40.54 | Zhinjio | thats like asking someone if they like emacs or vi, Neebler. |
| 04:41.03 | Zhinjio | I'm an nVidia man, myself. |
| 04:42.26 | Neebler | well I could care less on the brand. I care about performance and longevity |
| 04:42.45 | Neebler | back to google I go |
| 04:43.00 | rob` | cake or death |
| 04:45.17 | CIA-22 | 03next96 * r49975 10Bartender3/locales/Bartender3-koKR.lua: |
| 04:45.17 | CIA-22 | Bartender3: |
| 04:45.17 | CIA-22 | - Update locale koKR |
| 04:48.31 | Xinhuan | is anyone planning to update Rating Buster? |
| 04:48.40 | Xinhuan | the author seems to have disappeared for a good 3 months |
| 04:50.49 | Zhinjio | RatingBuster is working fine for me. |
| 04:51.31 | Zhinjio | Neebler, the key for me is support, and nVidia has always provided me the best support and drivers. I'm sure there are just as many ATI bigots out there that will tell you same thing about their products. |
| 04:51.39 | sedatedChipmunk | Trae: yes, BulkMail is my baby; it works especially well for alt-banking |
| 04:51.44 | Zhinjio | so, actually, it is all about the brand. |
| 04:52.33 | Zhinjio | the two companies are in constant competition to provide better performance, so both will ultimately give you that. Longevity? Not sure what that means. |
| 04:52.39 | sedatedChipmunk | http://wowace.com/wiki/BulkMail2 and http://wowace.com/wiki/BulkMail2Inbox |
| 04:52.52 | Xinhuan | Zhinjio: RatingBuster hasn't been updated in some 3 months, and the Haste Rating needs updates |
| 04:52.53 | sedatedChipmunk | Trae: read all about 'em there --^ |
| 04:53.01 | sedatedChipmunk | hm, images got removed |
| 04:53.06 | sedatedChipmunk | lemme replace 'em |
| 04:53.22 | Zhinjio | Ah. heh. |
| 04:53.24 | Zhinjio | Haste Shmaste. |
| 04:53.35 | Xinhuan | plus i have at least 6 bugs that i've found in StatLogicLib |
| 04:53.45 | Xinhuan | none of which are fixed |
| 04:54.02 | Xinhuan | such as the aldor/scryer shoulder enchants not adding to +heal |
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| 04:54.21 | Xinhuan | or how armor bonuses aren't being parsed from armor kits |
| 04:55.11 | yssaril | anyone here use manufac? |
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| 05:00.54 | sedatedChipmunk | Trae: replaced the images on those wiki pages; check it out and see if that's something like you want |
| 05:02.34 | Antiarc | Okay |
| 05:02.41 | Antiarc | So apparently one of our priests has 60 repair bots in the bank |
| 05:02.59 | Xinhuan | Antiarc: is he an engineer? ;p |
| 05:04.10 | ckknight | the most efficient sorting algorithm is bogosort ...but only if you're lucky |
| 05:04.40 | Xinhuan | it should be bubble sort - 1 pass if you're lucky ;p |
| 05:05.15 | ckknight | bubble sort is a comparison sort, so minimally O(n lg n) |
| 05:05.23 | ckknight | bogosort is O(n) if you're lucky |
| 05:06.06 | yssaril | whats luck got to do wiht it cause i am not very good in the luck compartment atm /sigh |
| 05:06.10 | rob` | anyone remember a contest a few years ago about finding the least efficient possible sort? |
| 05:06.27 | ckknight | lol, no, what was that about? |
| 05:06.28 | yssaril | rob`: the least or the most? |
| 05:06.46 | rob` | I think the winner was "do nothing, and wait until quantum tunneling sorts it, polling in a continuous loop" |
| 05:06.48 | rob` | least :) |
| 05:06.58 | yssaril | lol |
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| 05:15.57 | Codayus | rob`: That's better than the one I saw, which was just "rearrange randomly, check if its sorted, if not repeat" |
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| 05:17.33 | Antiarc | rofl |
| 05:17.35 | Antiarc | That's awesome |
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| 05:18.35 | Killmore | Antiarc: what ? |
| 05:18.57 | Antiarc | rob`: I think the winner was "do nothing, and wait until quantum tunneling sorts it, polling in a continuous loop" |
| 05:19.43 | Codayus | Omen is telling our entire raid that one of the hunters pets is doing 3x the TPS as anyone else. |
| 05:20.17 | QuantumDelta | It's not omen |
| 05:20.30 | QuantumDelta | tell the hunter to install a lower version of threat lib |
| 05:20.54 | PProvost | Yeah Codayus. Something is wrong in Threat |
| 05:20.58 | rob` | does lag cause spikes in apparent TPS? Like if a bunch of events suddenly come through all at once. |
| 05:21.18 | PProvost | It totally messed up our Gruul's raid tonight. |
| 05:21.22 | sedatedChipmunk | my pet generates 50k threat wrangling an aether ra |
| 05:21.23 | sedatedChipmunk | y |
| 05:21.38 | rob` | hah |
| 05:21.38 | theoddone33 | so my pitbull unit frames fade out for no apparent reason after last night... does anyone know a module that's supposed to do that? perhaps I have something turned on inadvertantly |
| 05:21.40 | rob` | that's hilarious |
| 05:21.51 | QuantumDelta | my voidwalker managed to whack out 6billion TPS with the update rate on maximum |
| 05:21.51 | QuantumDelta | xD |
| 05:21.54 | sedatedChipmunk | theoddone33: disable combatfader |
| 05:22.09 | rob` | QD: for small value of "second"? :) |
| 05:22.09 | sedatedChipmunk | it's a module that got re-enabled for some reason recently |
| 05:22.11 | theoddone33 | perfect |
| 05:22.13 | QuantumDelta | yea |
| 05:22.14 | theoddone33 | thanks |
| 05:22.32 | theoddone33 | I should have looked closer... who would have thought it would have had "fader" in the name :( |
| 05:22.41 | sedatedChipmunk | /snicker |
| 05:22.51 | sedatedChipmunk | take comfort in the fact that you're not the only one |
| 05:22.57 | rob` | this is the first major patch I've had with wow ace updater.. I must say it's the smoothest patch transition I've ever had to deal with |
| 05:23.10 | rob` | so much nicer than having to hunt down 20 addon web pages |
| 05:23.12 | sedatedChipmunk | i've never found anyone who actually wanted it to do that |
| 05:23.14 | PProvost | Ain't it nice? |
| 05:23.14 | rob` | only had to do a few |
| 05:23.14 | theoddone33 | that was like 50% of my mod problems from the patch right there |
| 05:23.30 | Arcaia | i like hunting down 20 addon pages |
| 05:23.31 | PProvost | So, is someone working on the ThreatLib issue? |
| 05:23.32 | sedatedChipmunk | but it somehow gets re-enabled every so often anyways |
| 05:23.35 | rob` | is there a Gatherer-alike for Ace? |
| 05:23.39 | Arcaia | it helps you realize which addons the author has given up on |
| 05:23.40 | sedatedChipmunk | Cartographer |
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| 05:23.48 | sedatedChipmunk | Cartographer_Mining |
| 05:23.50 | rob` | does it mark up your minimap? |
| 05:23.51 | sedatedChipmunk | Cartographer_Herbalism |
| 05:23.55 | CIA-22 | 03fenlis * r49976 10Prat/ (24 files in 4 dirs): |
| 05:23.55 | CIA-22 | Prat: |
| 05:23.55 | CIA-22 | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:23.56 | sedatedChipmunk | the latter two do |
| 05:24.00 | rob` | Excellent :D |
| 05:24.11 | rob` | how about data sharing between guild? can it take gatherer data? |
| 05:24.26 | rob` | you know I could just answer my own damn questions |
| 05:24.28 | sedatedChipmunk | get Cartographer_Import and copy your Gatherer SV, and you won't even lose your old ones |
| 05:24.29 | rob` | by installing it |
| 05:24.31 | rob` | right |
| 05:24.31 | sedatedChipmunk | yep |
| 05:24.39 | rob` | sC: awesome, thanks |
| 05:24.46 | theoddone33 | there's one module |
| 05:24.56 | theoddone33 | sends whatever mining/herbing notes you have to guildies |
| 05:25.00 | theoddone33 | kind of neat |
| 05:25.06 | rob` | yeah, gatherer does that out of the box |
| 05:25.12 | rob` | it's a nice feature but not critical |
| 05:25.16 | rob` | since I have all the data at this point |
| 05:25.25 | Arcaia | my fav part of cartographer guildlocations/waypoints |
| 05:25.29 | Arcaia | ermhrm... |
| 05:25.35 | Arcaia | I just started using it today |
| 05:25.38 | kadrahil | man |
| 05:25.38 | Arcaia | and god.. those are nice. |
| 05:25.43 | rob` | been considering wiping my herb/mining database anyway, since a few patches ago they relocated most of outland's spawn points |
| 05:25.52 | kadrahil | is anyone else having as many problems with their server's connection as we are on stormreaver? |
| 05:26.00 | theoddone33 | ok well the other problem... anyone happen to notice that pitbull estimated heals don't work on raid members in AV but still work on self? |
| 05:26.04 | sedatedChipmunk | rob`: there's wowhead-mined locs too on the svn somewhere |
| 05:26.16 | rob` | ooh. |
| 05:26.19 | rob` | That would be godly. |
| 05:26.22 | rob` | OH hey oh oh oh oh |
| 05:26.30 | theoddone33 | it's in svn? |
| 05:26.32 | rob` | they're adding FISH minimap scanning |
| 05:26.33 | theoddone33 | I got it from the forums |
| 05:26.38 | theoddone33 | it's pretty uber |
| 05:26.44 | rob` | it'll be a book that you fish from boxes |
| 05:26.47 | rob` | it'll be great |
| 05:26.49 | sedatedChipmunk | whatever; it's floating around somewhere |
| 05:26.50 | CIA-22 | 03fenlis * r49977 10Prat/Prat_Modules/modules/Timestamps.lua: |
| 05:26.50 | CIA-22 | Prat: |
| 05:26.50 | CIA-22 | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:26.51 | rob` | </3 finding pools |
| 05:27.00 | sedatedChipmunk | really going to bed now |
| 05:27.23 | kadrahil | ~flee |
| 05:27.23 | purl | ACTION runs away screaming |
| 05:27.31 | rob` | competition for highland pools up in skettis though, is going to be way stiffer after 2.3 |
| 05:27.46 | theoddone33 | why? |
| 05:28.00 | rob` | it'll be that much easier to find them |
| 05:28.10 | rob` | you don't need to visually scan every inch of shoreline |
| 05:29.00 | vithos | that much easier to find them how? |
| 05:29.10 | vithos | er wait |
| 05:29.12 | vithos | fish. right |
| 05:29.35 | rob` | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bogosort |
| 05:29.41 | rob` | read the "quantum bogosort" section |
| 05:29.43 | rob` | it's amusing |
| 05:29.45 | vithos | i dunno, you have to be close enough for them to load for them to show up on the map anyway |
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| 05:34.35 | Arcaia | BulkMail2 is ugly. I'm going back to using CT_MailMod |
| 05:34.37 | Arcaia | ;P |
| 05:35.12 | CIA-22 | 03fenlis * r49978 10Assessment/ (12 files in 4 dirs): |
| 05:35.12 | CIA-22 | Assessment : |
| 05:35.12 | CIA-22 | <PROTECTED> |
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| 05:48.29 | CIA-22 | 03toadkiller * r49979 10PeriodicTable-3.0/ (3 files in 2 dirs): |
| 05:48.29 | CIA-22 | PeriodicTable-3.0: |
| 05:48.29 | CIA-22 | - Add all missing & move other flasks to Consumable.Buff.*.Flask |
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| 05:54.04 | theoddone33 | heh parrot is telling me my pet did damage |
| 05:54.09 | theoddone33 | only problem: I don't have a pet |
| 05:54.18 | Recluse | lol |
| 05:54.23 | theoddone33 | I love patches |
| 05:54.55 | Codayus | Hmm, anyone else noticed VR's orbs being a bit...more...annoying? |
| 05:55.08 | Codayus | Probbably just me. :-/ |
| 05:55.34 | Antiarc | They're faster, yes |
| 05:55.41 | Antiarc | We killed him an hour ago or so |
| 05:55.43 | Antiarc | Definitely buffed |
| 05:55.48 | Antiarc | But holy crap did Solarian get nerfed |
| 05:56.05 | durcyn | boss cooldowns are all over the map, not sure VR is instentional any more than alar |
| 05:56.05 | Codayus | Had a 5% wipe or so after 3-4 ranged died early going "wtf" |
| 05:56.09 | Arcaia | To apply to work at Blizzard, or not to apply to work at Blizzard |
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| 05:56.46 | Recluse | as what? XD some of those jobs i'd hate |
| 05:56.49 | Codayus | How easy is Solarian now? |
| 05:56.50 | Arcaia | GM |
| 05:57.01 | Antiarc | Soliarian is High Loot Vendor Solarian now |
| 05:57.04 | Antiarc | Easier than VR |
| 05:57.07 | Antiarc | By far. |
| 05:57.13 | Codayus | Really... |
| 05:57.21 | Arcaia | someone is saying I have a good chance due to my experience/interests |
| 05:57.30 | Antiarc | Basically, if you can run away from people when you start shooting giant bolts of lightning, you can beat her |
| 05:57.38 | Codayus | ooooh |
| 05:57.47 | Antiarc | If you can beat Geddon, you can beat Solarian |
| 05:58.09 | Recluse | gm would be a cool job :) |
| 05:58.17 | Recluse | for the most part, anyhow |
| 05:59.21 | Xinhuan | anyone notice onyxia deep breath more? |
| 05:59.27 | Xinhuan | :) |
| 06:00.13 | Killmore | Antiarc: whats the difference than before ? |
| 06:00.16 | Killmore | in solarian |
| 06:00.22 | Antiarc | Killmore: Wrath was changed |
| 06:00.34 | Antiarc | Now it's just a Geddon bomb that kills anyone it hits that isn't the person with the debuff |
| 06:00.55 | Killmore | ok |
| 06:01.07 | Killmore | so, the player with the debuff didnt get any dmg ? |
| 06:01.13 | Xinhuan | did you do solarian the Geddon way (everyone spread out), or Vaelstrasz way (everyone stack on top, and affected person run out)? |
| 06:01.40 | Arcaia | er'y'one stack ;P |
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| 06:01.51 | Fisker-- | oh hi |
| 06:02.00 | Arcaia | omg. run. |
| 06:02.04 | Recluse | lol |
| 06:02.12 | Fisker-- | wise |
| 06:02.44 | Killmore | Antiarc: so, the player with the debuff didnt get any dmg from the explosion? |
| 06:02.54 | Antiarc | No, they get shot into the air and then float back to ground |
| 06:03.01 | Antiarc | Anyone else that gets hit shoots up but doesn't float |
| 06:03.03 | Antiarc | So they splat |
| 06:03.07 | Xinhuan | did you do solarian the Geddon way (everyone spread out), or Vaelstrasz way (everyone stack on top, and affected person run out)? |
| 06:03.34 | Antiarc | Vael |
| 06:03.39 | Antiarc | You kinda need to for the zerg |
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| 06:04.33 | Xinhuan | i heard my guild wiped hard on it yesterday cos a few ppl couldn't see huge purple lightning bolts |
| 06:04.48 | Killmore | and did you try kael ? the fight is supose to be more short now (the beggining) ? |
| 06:04.50 | Vires | BA was fun... running and nuking at the same time, lol |
| 06:05.00 | orionshock | morning all |
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| 06:05.13 | Recluse | morning |
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| 06:05.57 | Xinhuan | luckily i dodged the raid ;p |
| 06:06.09 | Antiarc | You can't really get to Kael right now |
| 06:06.15 | Antiarc | Al'ar is stuck on Heroic mode |
| 06:06.21 | Xinhuan | alar is hotfixed |
| 06:06.24 | Xinhuan | blue posted |
| 06:06.25 | Antiarc | No he's not |
| 06:06.28 | Antiarc | The fix didn't work |
| 06:06.31 | Xinhuan | oh? |
| 06:06.39 | Antiarc | Nope. |
| 06:06.49 | Antiarc | They're issuing rolling restarts to fix him though |
| 06:07.08 | Xinhuan | lol |
| 06:07.12 | Xinhuan | weak |
| 06:07.14 | CIA-22 | 03toadkiller * r49980 10PeriodicTable-3.0/ (3 files in 2 dirs): |
| 06:07.14 | CIA-22 | PeriodicTable-3.0: |
| 06:07.14 | CIA-22 | - Consumable.Buff Type.Battle, Consumable.Buff Type.Combo, Consumable.Buff Type.Guardian |
| 06:07.14 | CIA-22 | - Consumable.Buff Type.Combo is complete, the other 2 are placeholders for now |
| 06:07.40 | Xinhuan | its ok my guild raids at 3am ;p |
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| 06:07.48 | Xinhuan | so 1am rolling restarts is fine |
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| 06:08.17 | orionshock | wrath + Kings Defender and Aldor Legacy Sheild = weird looking |
| 06:08.51 | Recluse | 20 commits to go! i'm in suspense lol |
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| 06:10.59 | CIA-22 | 03quagmire * r49981 10nQuestLog/ (libs/includes.xml modules/Notifications.lua nQuestLog.toc): (log message trimmed) |
| 06:10.59 | CIA-22 | nQuestLog:nQuestLog.toc |
| 06:10.59 | CIA-22 | - Updated interface version to 20200 |
| 06:10.59 | CIA-22 | - Added SinkLib to x-embeds |
| 06:10.59 | CIA-22 | nQuestLog:libs/includes.xml |
| 06:11.01 | CIA-22 | - Added Sink-1.0 |
| 06:11.03 | CIA-22 | nQuestLog:modules/Notifications.lua |
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| 06:13.41 | Heri1 | okay, is it just me or is rock profile copying not working? xD |
| 06:16.48 | Recluse | Heri1: dunno with you, but with some rock addons i personally found it necessary to reloadui after copying a profile for the new values to take effect |
| 06:16.52 | CIA-22 | 03fenlis * r49982 10BigWigs/ (24 files in 9 dirs): |
| 06:16.52 | CIA-22 | BigWigs: |
| 06:16.52 | CIA-22 | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:16.55 | sedai| | hi |
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| 06:21.22 | Heri1 | basically, i get a UI error telling me that it ain't gon work >.< |
| 06:21.40 | Killmore | Antiarc: whats happen with al'ar ? |
| 06:22.01 | Antiarc | Killmore: His Meteor is on a 15 sec timer now |
| 06:22.11 | Antiarc | So 2 new adds every 15 sec + basically zero melee dps time |
| 06:22.40 | nevcairiel | shouldnt really hurt, considering that a dead add is 3% dps too |
| 06:22.57 | Antiarc | nevcairiel: The problem is that you just get way too many adds up |
| 06:23.03 | Arcaia | whoever developed WIM needs to realize that whole nil character name string bug thing |
| 06:24.33 | sedai| | WF3sec's core.lua bugged bad |
| 06:24.38 | sedai| | :( |
| 06:25.08 | nevcairiel | anyone ran into issues with BT3 last night? |
| 06:25.33 | kandarz | not me |
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| 06:31.38 | mbp | anyone know what was fixed in the hotfixes being applied now on EU servers? |
| 06:31.45 | Antiarc | Al'ar likely |
| 06:32.50 | Quagmire | hmm, I added an X-Embed and embeds.xml entry for SinkLib, but it didn't get embedded for some reason when the zip was built on WowAce :( |
| 06:33.12 | Quagmire | Did it *exactly* like Prat, so that's a bit odd. |
| 06:33.40 | Quagmire | It's worked for every other embed so far, too. |
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| 06:34.00 | Quagmire | Does anyone have any ideas? |
| 06:34.20 | nevcairiel | you have to set svn externals |
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| 06:34.33 | Quagmire | Oh, ok, thanks |
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| 06:40.34 | CIA-22 | 03cronan * r49984 10Detox/Detox.toc: Detox: TOC to 20200 |
| 06:41.59 | CIA-22 | 03cronan * r49985 10DrDamage/DrDamage.toc: |
| 06:41.59 | CIA-22 | DrDamage: |
| 06:41.59 | CIA-22 | - TOC to 20200 |
| 06:42.00 | CIA-22 | 03cronan * r49986 10eePanels/eePanels.toc: eePanels: TOC to 20200 |
| 06:42.23 | CIA-22 | 03cronan * r49987 10EQCompare/EQCompare.toc: EQCompare: TOC to 20200 |
| 06:42.42 | CIA-22 | 03cronan * r49988 10FuBar_MailFu/FuBar_MailFu.toc: FuBar_MailFu: TOC to 20200 |
| 06:42.45 | CIA-22 | 03cronan * r49989 10FuBar_MiniClockFu/FuBar_MiniClockFu.toc: FuBar_MiniClockFu: TOC to 20200 |
| 06:43.53 | CIA-22 | 03cronan * r49990 10FuBar_MoneyFu/FuBar_MoneyFu.toc: FuBar_MoneyFu: TOC to 20200 |
| 06:44.01 | CIA-22 | 03quagmire * r49991 10nQuestLog/: nQuestLog: Update SVN externals to add Sink-1.0 |
| 06:44.11 | CIA-22 | 03cronan * r49992 10FuBar_MiniPerfsFu/FuBar_MiniPerfsFu.toc: FuBar_MiniPerfsFu: TOC to 20200 |
| 06:44.16 | CIA-22 | 03cronan * r49993 10FuBar_SWStats2Fu/FuBar_SWStats2Fu.toc: FuBar_SWStats2Fu: TOC to 20200 |
| 06:44.23 | CIA-22 | 03cronan * r49994 10Niagara/Niagara.toc: Niagara: TOC to 20200 |
| 06:44.27 | Fisker-- | that's just lame |
| 06:44.32 | Fisker-- | someone ban that guy |
| 06:44.48 | CIA-22 | 03cronan * r49995 10OneBag/OneBag.toc: OneBag: TOC to 20200 |
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| 06:44.56 | CIA-22 | 03cronan * r49996 10OneBank/OneBank.toc: OneBank: TOC to 20200 |
| 06:45.04 | CIA-22 | 03cronan * r49997 10ParserLib/ParserLib.toc: ParserLib: TOC to 20200 |
| 06:45.14 | Fisker-- | we don't have much timeleft |
| 06:45.14 | Xinhuan | are half those addons even his? heheh |
| 06:45.15 | CIA-22 | 03cronan * r49998 10ProximityLib/ProximityLib.toc: ProximityLib: TOC to 20200 |
| 06:45.18 | CIA-22 | 03cronan * r49999 10SpellBinder/SpellBinder.toc: |
| 06:45.18 | CIA-22 | SpellBinder: |
| 06:45.18 | CIA-22 | - TOC to 20200 |
| 06:45.20 | Kreiger | What the hell is he doing? |
| 06:45.20 | Fisker-- | i doubt it |
| 06:45.27 | CIA-22 | 03cronan * r50000 10SpellEventsLib/SpellEventsLib.toc: SpellEventsLib: TOC to 20200 |
| 06:45.33 | Fisker-- | doing a lot of shit he shouldn't |
| 06:45.38 | CIA-22 | 03cronan * r50001 10StatLogicLib/StatLogicLib.toc: StatLogicLib: TOC to 20200 |
| 06:45.39 | CIA-22 | 03cronan * r50002 10SurfaceLib/SurfaceLib.toc: SurfaceLib: TOC to 20200 |
| 06:45.43 | CIA-22 | 03cronan * r50003 10TankPoints/TankPoints.toc: TankPoints: TOC to 20200 |
| 06:45.47 | neenee | This is interesting |
| 06:45.56 | CIA-22 | 03cronan * r50004 10TinyTipExtras/TinyTipExtras.toc: TinyTipExtras: TOC to 20200 |
| 06:46.00 | CIA-22 | 03cronan * r50005 10TinyTipOptions/TinyTipOptions.toc: TinyTipOptions: TOC to 20200 |
| 06:46.06 | CIA-22 | 03cronan * r50006 10TipHookerLib/TipHookerLib.toc: TipHookerLib: TOC to 20200 |
| 06:46.06 | Kreiger | I've never understood what those messages are. |
| 06:46.11 | CIA-22 | 03cronan * r50007 10Waterfall-1.0/Waterfall-1.0.toc: Waterfall-1.0: TOC to 20200 |
| 06:46.13 | Kreiger | is it him updating the addons? |
| 06:46.17 | Fisker-- | yes |
| 06:46.18 | yssaril | yes |
| 06:46.20 | neenee | They're to show the channel that something was updated on svn |
| 06:46.29 | Kreiger | Ahh. ok. i'm not TOUCHING those mods until they get fixed. |
| 06:46.34 | CIA-22 | 03cronan * r50008 10WitchHunt/WitchHunt.toc: WitchHunt: TOC to 20200 |
| 06:46.34 | Kreiger | cause i don't know him. |
| 06:46.43 | orionshock | yssaril: ping |
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| 06:46.43 | *** mode/#wowace [+o MoonWolf] by ChanServ |
| 06:46.45 | Fisker-- | it has no effect on the mods really |
| 06:46.50 | yssaril | pong |
| 06:46.51 | Xinhuan | no we're more concerned if he is updating all those addons' TOC because he is the author, or only because he felt he should be doing it |
| 06:46.53 | Awaa | But still |
| 06:47.03 | Fisker-- | they'll still be as broke/working regardless of the toc number |
| 06:47.09 | orionshock | yssaril: your Lib idea is interesting |
| 06:47.24 | neenee | He doesn't seem to be the author. |
| 06:47.25 | yssaril | orionshock: hehe |
| 06:47.25 | CIA-22 | 03kaelten * r50009 10OneBag/templates.xml: |
| 06:47.25 | CIA-22 | OneBag: |
| 06:47.25 | CIA-22 | - killed errors on mouse over |
| 06:47.32 | Fisker-- | Kaelten |
| 06:47.35 | Fisker-- | we must stop him |
| 06:47.37 | Xinhuan | yssaril: your idea is more along the lines of Threat-1.0 |
| 06:47.45 | Fisker-- | he just failgetted the svn |
| 06:47.56 | CIA-22 | 03kaelten * r50010 10OneBank/OneBank.lua: |
| 06:47.56 | CIA-22 | OneBank - |
| 06:47.56 | CIA-22 | - Killed errors on showing |
| 06:47.56 | CIA-22 | - Fixed usages of events for moving items in bankslots |
| 06:47.57 | orionshock | tbh to satisify my own bs, ive spent the last several mins just BS something togeather |
| 06:48.31 | orionshock | bout the only thing i can even seem to fathom is the waiting for version responses |
| 06:48.35 | yssaril | Xinhuan: yea i like your analogy would just be a much broader scope of syncing |
| 06:48.50 | Xinhuan | i'm thinking of damage meters situation |
| 06:48.56 | Xinhuan | where there is a "global synced" table |
| 06:49.10 | Xinhuan | that anyone with the sync library can add/change data to that global sync table |
| 06:49.22 | Xinhuan | then frontend UIs take data from it and display |
| 06:49.31 | Xinhuan | Omen, damage meters, etc etc |
| 06:49.48 | *** mode/#wowace [+v Shirik] by ChanServ |
| 06:49.49 | Xinhuan | but that global sync table must have a distribution method attached to it |
| 06:50.01 | yssaril | yep |
| 06:50.15 | Xinhuan | but the library itself doesn't hold data between sessions |
| 06:50.23 | Silviu- | What`s wrong with Demonoid :( still down |
| 06:50.24 | orionshock | yssaril: do you have any code thrown togeather yet? |
| 06:50.26 | Xinhuan | so it wouldn't work for guild syncing stuff |
| 06:50.30 | Fisker-- | Silviu- it got shut down |
| 06:50.31 | neenee | Do Elkano's Buff Bars still exist? |
| 06:50.32 | yssaril | orionshock: nope |
| 06:50.33 | Fisker-- | read the news n00b |
| 06:50.35 | Xinhuan | such as guild bank syncing |
| 06:50.43 | Cheads | neenee yeah |
| 06:50.43 | orionshock | want some BS to start from? |
| 06:50.44 | Silviu- | Fisker-- where ? ;) |
| 06:50.45 | orionshock | :D |
| 06:50.46 | Awaa | Neebler yeah, i use them |
| 06:50.50 | neenee | ah woops |
| 06:50.51 | Fisker-- | internets |
| 06:50.52 | Silviu- | Fisker-- if the page won`t work |
| 06:50.57 | Silviu- | Bla :/ |
| 06:51.01 | neenee | I was checking the 'Installed' section of WAU :) Thanks, |
| 06:51.05 | Xinhuan | plus guild banks addons are a bit late for development considering they are implemented in v2.3 |
| 06:51.09 | Fisker-- | CRIA got the isp to pull the plug |
| 06:51.21 | yssaril | Xinhuan: though that should be part of the lib i think to be able to sync /retain the sync table across sessions |
| 06:51.36 | orionshock | Xinhuan: not so much guild banks are still viable, because it ain't true till it's in patch notes :P |
| 06:51.38 | Xinhuan | no yss, that should be part of the addon that uses the lib, not the lib itself |
| 06:52.04 | yssaril | Xinhuan: hmmm true |
| 06:52.35 | Xinhuan | the lib should only maintain a "global sync table" which vanishes the moment nobody is there to maintain the sync |
| 06:53.03 | yssaril | Xinhuan: for guild banks it will still be nice to have an addon that can display the data while not at the bank and will sync with the last person to be at the bank |
| 06:53.06 | Xinhuan | client addons can save a copy of that global table |
| 06:53.17 | orionshock | yssaril: Xinhuan : http://ace.pastey.net/74472 |
| 06:53.41 | orionshock | something like so ? :D |
| 06:53.55 | orionshock | im big into theory , but implementation is my problem |
| 06:53.55 | Xinhuan | probably |
| 06:54.06 | Xinhuan | its just a concept at the moment |
| 06:54.12 | Xinhuan | not something fleshed out in code |
| 06:54.18 | orionshock | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:54.37 | orionshock | lol - concepts need flesh |
| 06:54.37 | Xinhuan | its not practical to talk about implementation before the concept ;p |
| 06:54.57 | yssaril | the implementation i usually dont ahve a problem with actually making it all nice pretty and fast is my problem |
| 06:55.05 | orionshock | Xinhuan: sorry i used those words interchangeably backwards :\ |
| 06:55.54 | CIA-22 | 03toadkiller * r50011 10AutoBarConfig/AutoBarConfig.toc: |
| 06:55.54 | CIA-22 | AutoBarConfig: |
| 06:55.54 | CIA-22 | -toc + category |
| 06:56.07 | Xinhuan | there is a potential problem with such a sync library though |
| 06:56.07 | orionshock | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:56.14 | Xinhuan | and that problem is race conditions |
| 06:56.44 | yssaril | Xinhuan: you mean created due to lag where one person commits before the other but lag screws it up? |
| 06:56.49 | Xinhuan | yes |
| 06:56.57 | *** part/#wowace Heri1 (n=Erik@ppp-209-77-230-153.dsl.chi2ca.pacbell.net) |
| 06:57.21 | Xinhuan | if playerA and playerB both tries to change the same variable at the same time, and the server receives these ADDONMESSAGES |
| 06:57.26 | Xinhuan | in the order A->B |
| 06:57.41 | Xinhuan | does the server gaurantee that every player in the distribution |
| 06:57.47 | Xinhuan | receive the messages in the order A->B ? |
| 06:57.53 | orionshock | in that case thow up a message that only allows one player to edit the DB at a time |
| 06:58.12 | orionshock | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:58.13 | yssaril | Xinhuan: the addon would not care what order it recives it in it would check the timestamp/version number of the var |
| 06:58.22 | Xinhuan | a lock doesn't work orionshock, without a central server |
| 06:58.36 | Xinhuan | timestamp would be depenant on the lag yssaril |
| 06:58.37 | orionshock | not nessisarily |
| 06:58.40 | Xinhuan | dependant |
| 06:58.45 | Xinhuan | yes it would, |
| 06:58.58 | Xinhuan | a race condirion can still occur if 2 ppl request a lock at the same time |
| 06:59.21 | Xinhuan | in a 1-server situation, this wouldn't be an issue |
| 06:59.22 | yssaril | xin how so? the person that "commits" last would the one people would get |
| 06:59.27 | orionshock | ok - add a random time out to a file lock request, if 2 are submitted at the same time then the addon denys it |
| 06:59.35 | Xinhuan | but a lib of this nature would be 25 servers at the same time |
| 06:59.38 | Xinhuan | in a 25-man raid |
| 06:59.44 | Xinhuan | all 24 others receive your lock request |
| 06:59.55 | yssaril | orionshock: to much trouble for what its worth |
| 06:59.59 | orionshock | true |
| 07:00.02 | Xinhuan | you're not dealing with a server-client method |
| 07:00.15 | Xinhuan | you're dealing with a peer-peer network |
| 07:00.18 | CIA-22 | 03kaelten * r50012 10OneBank/OneBank.lua: |
| 07:00.18 | CIA-22 | OneBank - |
| 07:00.18 | CIA-22 | - Bank bags now show up properly |
| 07:00.27 | Xinhuan | there is no "central server" to handle locks |
| 07:00.28 | orionshock | if not viable solution then remove the public type, and only allow own'ed vars |
| 07:00.33 | yssaril | unless you have one of the 25 servers take over controll over everything |
| 07:00.55 | Xinhuan | yes, unless you designate one player to be the server, then you have to make code for takeover on d/cs |
| 07:01.03 | Xinhuan | which causes lock issues |
| 07:01.26 | yssaril | yea again too much trouble for what its worth |
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| 07:01.58 | Xinhuan | the key question is whether the server maintains message ordering |
| 07:02.00 | Fisker-- | so mr. Kaelten |
| 07:02.04 | Fisker-- | did we smoke his ass? |
| 07:02.04 | Kaelten | ? |
| 07:02.14 | Kaelten | smoke who's ass? |
| 07:02.16 | CIA-22 | 03toadkiller * r50013 10AutoBar/AutoBarButton.lua: |
| 07:02.16 | CIA-22 | AutoBar: |
| 07:02.16 | CIA-22 | -Fix right click feeds pet |
| 07:02.16 | Kaelten | in what context? |
| 07:02.29 | Fisker-- | Kaelten the guy who failgetted the svn :( |
| 07:02.34 | Fisker-- | and updated like 20 addons' toc |
| 07:02.43 | Xinhuan | that is, if the server receives 2 messages in the order A->B, does all players gaurantee to receive it in the order A->B? |
| 07:02.47 | Kaelten | I think that was Funkeh |
| 07:02.53 | Fisker-- | destroy him then :/ |
| 07:02.59 | Kaelten | or is this something else that I don't know about |
| 07:03.01 | Xinhuan | also the person sending the message doesn't receive his own message |
| 07:03.12 | orionshock | Xinhuan: yes he does |
| 07:03.27 | Xinhuan | not an addon message orion, i think? |
| 07:03.30 | [Ammo] | he does |
| 07:03.31 | yssaril | Xinhuan: if sent by the same person yes the ordering is valid |
| 07:03.33 | [Ammo] | just not in acecomm |
| 07:03.34 | orionshock | yes |
| 07:03.40 | [Ammo] | because someone decided that wasn't necessary *grumble* |
| 07:03.51 | Xinhuan | yes but in this case, we're sending 2 different messages from 2 different people |
| 07:03.56 | yssaril | Xinhuan: yea you recive your own messages (not hard to filter out though) |
| 07:04.13 | orionshock | you see your own sends to the addon channel |
| 07:04.17 | Xinhuan | if the ordering received by the server and thus ordering sent out by the server is maintained, then there would be no race conditions |
| 07:04.47 | [Ammo] | provided both players have the same ms to the server |
| 07:04.56 | [Ammo] | so you can't guarantee that and will have to figure out something elsd |
| 07:05.08 | Xinhuan | i don't think the ping matters as long as the ordering is maintained? |
| 07:05.13 | yssaril | Xinhuan: ordering recived is maintained the problem is the send order might be different than the recive order |
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| 07:05.30 | Xinhuan | the sent order is determined by the server yssaril |
| 07:05.41 | Xinhuan | the "sent order" is the order in which the game server receives them in |
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| 07:06.10 | yssaril | i am taling about teh person sending and the server reciving |
| 07:06.11 | [Ammo] | but if 2 different people send messages, order is not guaranteed |
| 07:06.41 | Xinhuan | so if B sent it at time T and A sent it at time T+0.1, then if the server recieves it in the order A->B, then everyone receives it in the order A->B |
| 07:06.47 | Xinhuan | even though the real order was B->A |
| 07:07.02 | Xinhuan | so there isn't any race condition, data sync is maintained |
| 07:07.34 | yssaril | say person A sends message A but has a 20ms lag 10ms later person B sends message B with 0ms lag then reciver C would get message B and 10ms later message A |
| 07:07.49 | Xinhuan | no, the fact is the server sends out messages in the order it receives it in |
| 07:08.10 | Xinhuan | B and A would receive the messages in the same order that C received it in |
| 07:08.19 | |Pixel| | Xinhuan is right, and furthermore: A will see B's message before his |
| 07:08.20 | Xinhuan | the data sync lib must only act on sync messages |
| 07:08.26 | Xinhuan | that are received |
| 07:08.29 | |Pixel| | because the ingame display waits for the server reply to display something |
| 07:08.32 | Xinhuan | and not sync messages that are sent |
| 07:08.36 | Fisker-- | bah |
| 07:08.45 | Fisker-- | i forgot to load out of date addons |
| 07:08.54 | |Pixel| | Fisker--: pwned, noob |
| 07:09.17 | Xinhuan | that follows the assumption that you receive messages that you sent |
| 07:09.28 | Fisker-- | was more pwned that i was using a lot of Kaelten's bandwitdh to reinstall my addons because i didn't know what was wrong |
| 07:10.10 | Recluse | yssaril: message A and B will get to C at same time in example as 20ms lag = 10ms to server A&B get to server at same time. |
| 07:10.32 | Fisker-- | btw why do you have to screw with my system proxies? |
| 07:10.39 | Fisker-- | first freecap, now proxycap |
| 07:10.44 | Fisker-- | only got Sockscap left |
| 07:10.57 | Xinhuan | no recluse, nobody cares about the ping |
| 07:11.05 | yssaril | Xinhuan: so basically instead of directly saving the var the lib should first send it and then record it when it was recived? |
| 07:11.13 | Xinhuan | we're only caring about the ordering of messages received |
| 07:11.28 | Xinhuan | as long as received messages are in the same order for *everyone* |
| 07:11.31 | |Pixel| | Fisker--: what ? :) |
| 07:11.38 | QuantumDelta | Timestamping? |
| 07:11.40 | Xinhuan | yes yssaril |
| 07:11.51 | Xinhuan | that's what i'm saying |
| 07:11.56 | Fisker-- | since WoW doesn't have native proxy support i have to use some programs :O |
| 07:12.06 | |Pixel| | hmmhmm |
| 07:12.10 | *** join/#wowace Thelyna (n=burp@60-234-130-239.bitstream.orcon.net.nz) |
| 07:12.12 | Fisker-- | but 2 of them have been broke since TBC |
| 07:12.14 | |Pixel| | may I remember you some part of the new EULA ? :) |
| 07:12.15 | Xinhuan | i believe the server gaurantees some form of message ordering for everyone |
| 07:12.24 | evl | uh |
| 07:12.26 | evl | What the fuck |
| 07:12.28 | yssaril | alright i will have to add that to the thread to remind myself |
| 07:12.28 | orionshock | well Xinhuan there is a few ways to test this |
| 07:12.35 | evl | Rogues get 15% speed increase from Fleet Footed in 2.3 |
| 07:12.39 | evl | How the hell do you outrun rogues then |
| 07:12.40 | Fisker-- | |Pixel| i know it |
| 07:12.42 | evl | or rather kite them |
| 07:12.51 | Fisker-- | just like Wine and WineX would fall under the same part |
| 07:13.03 | Zhinjio | I hope ya'll are talking about some plugin thing, because that is decidedly NOT the way TCP traffic works. |
| 07:13.07 | Antiarc | Any kind of snare drops the rogue below 100% |
| 07:13.07 | |Pixel| | termination.html in your data directory :P |
| 07:13.17 | Fisker-- | but it's not like you'd log on and report me, right |Pixel|? |
| 07:13.22 | Xinhuan | we're talking about the way wow servers work Zhinjio |
| 07:13.24 | |Pixel| | 2. Hosting, provide matchmaking services for, or intercepting, emulating or redirecting the communication protocols used by Blizzard Entertainment as part of World of Warcraft, regardless of the method used to do so. |
| 07:13.30 | evl | Antiarc: sprint + 15% = MUCHO |
| 07:13.36 | |Pixel| | Fisker--: I don't need to "log on" or so :) |
| 07:13.39 | Fisker-- | :( |
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| 07:13.41 | Xinhuan | you can receive packets out of order -- but eventually they are assembled back in order by the game client |
| 07:13.53 | Xinhuan | and thus ordering is maintained |
| 07:13.59 | evl | •Arcane Shot (Rank 6+) will now dispel 1 Magic effect in addition to damage |
| 07:14.03 | evl | holy shit?! |
| 07:14.11 | Fisker-- | wait, what? |
| 07:14.20 | orionshock | evl: wtf they are buffing huntards? |
| 07:14.21 | Antiarc | What's really going to make rogues powerful is if they give Shadowstep as described today as a trainable ability |
| 07:14.23 | Fisker-- | are they insane? |
| 07:14.26 | Antiarc | It's going to be useless if it isn't |
| 07:14.26 | evl | yes they are insane |
| 07:14.35 | Antiarc | Hunters are the least represented class in the arena, with good reason |
| 07:14.43 | orionshock | if they make Shadow step trainable im gona quit |
| 07:14.49 | evl | hello? |
| 07:14.55 | evl | arcane shot has 41 yard range and a 6 sec cooldown |
| 07:14.58 | Fisker-- | far more overpowered classes to QQ over orionshock |
| 07:14.58 | evl | are they mental? |
| 07:15.00 | sylvanaar | hey, anyone know how to diagnose a bad router in a tracert? |
| 07:15.04 | orionshock | im a druid |
| 07:15.05 | Neebler | if they *insert random game change* I'm going to quit! |
| 07:15.09 | QuantumDelta | hunters are insanely good if used properly in the arena though Antiarc |
| 07:15.10 | Recluse | huh hunter dispel, interesting |
| 07:15.17 | QuantumDelta | and no one knows how to properly deal with them :P |
| 07:15.26 | CIA-22 | 03ammo * r50014 10FuBarAce/install.bat: FuBarAce: fix typo in install.bat |
| 07:15.29 | yssaril | if they make shadowstep trainable then warlocks should get plate or stealth :) |
| 07:15.36 | orionshock | Neebler: no - specificly that one |
| 07:15.46 | sylvanaar | or rather - how to diagnose the cause of a high TCP retransmit rate |
| 07:15.51 | Neebler | hollow words |
| 07:15.56 | orionshock | screw locks - let druid wear mail or put rogues in cloth |
| 07:16.21 | orionshock | sylvanaar: - what context? |
| 07:16.42 | QuantumDelta | Rogues are already the most physically weak class in the game actually xD |
| 07:16.49 | sylvanaar | I have a large number of TCP retransmits between myself and my guild's vent server |
| 07:17.03 | orionshock | pasty the traceroute |
| 07:17.15 | QuantumDelta | and mail is silly |
| 07:17.26 | cladhaire | xyu: update.. blizzard change/bug |
| 07:17.28 | Recluse | QuantumDelta: as a rogue i agree wholeheartedly |
| 07:17.32 | QuantumDelta | a shaman with a shield has almost as much damage mitigation as a warrior or a paladin with a shield |
| 07:17.48 | orionshock | QuantumDelta: um.... physicly weak? |
| 07:17.58 | cladhaire | Ellipsis_: "The Dongle people" are me and that's pretty much it. Thats my personal opinion, and nothing more. |
| 07:18.02 | QuantumDelta | easiest to twat in the face as a physical damage dealer orionshock |
| 07:18.12 | QuantumDelta | trust me |
| 07:18.13 | orionshock | aperantly you have bad luck |
| 07:18.16 | QuantumDelta | no one is squishier |
| 07:18.17 | sylvanaar | orionshock im not sure it says anything helpful http://ace.pastey.net/74473 |
| 07:18.19 | QuantumDelta | I'm not a rogue |
| 07:18.19 | orionshock | rouges wont' seem to die |
| 07:18.39 | |Pixel| | if they have a huge parry / dodge rate, maybe |
| 07:18.40 | Recluse | rogues are very very squishy. high dodge = only salvation |
| 07:18.42 | *** join/#wowace sb (n=sb@dslb-084-056-149-032.pools.arcor-ip.net) |
| 07:18.53 | |Pixel| | but they are still quite weak if they get hit |
| 07:18.55 | QuantumDelta | we have a mostly physical dps team for our arena 5on5 |
| 07:19.02 | QuantumDelta | rogues are actually very high on our priority list |
| 07:19.05 | QuantumDelta | because we just...well |
| 07:19.07 | QuantumDelta | instagib them |
| 07:19.48 | orionshock | WOW sylvanaar your routing table to that ip is fucked |
| 07:19.52 | QuantumDelta | Actually |
| 07:19.52 | QuantumDelta | I lie |
| 07:19.56 | QuantumDelta | there is one thing squishier |
| 07:20.01 | QuantumDelta | cats. |
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| 07:20.07 | sylvanaar | orionshock what is wrong with it |
| 07:20.19 | orionshock | what state are you in sylvanaar ? |
| 07:20.23 | Recluse | lol@cats |
| 07:20.23 | sylvanaar | tx |
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| 07:20.42 | Recluse | hooray for tx (same) |
| 07:20.56 | Kaydeethree | new PTR client! current build: 7318. diffs at http://spyglass-server.com/wowints |
| 07:21.30 | QuantumDelta | Recluse you're not the tr.....guy I know from the forums are you? :P |
| 07:21.45 | orionshock | ok - hop 3 is your ISP's first router, hp 4 is Level3's (a tier 2 ISP) first router, you then get ported to Chicago |
| 07:22.00 | orionshock | and .. well that hop is the fubar'ed one right? |
| 07:22.01 | Antiarc | Kaydeethree: 2.3 client already? |
| 07:22.02 | QuantumDelta | I'd find that unlikely since you're in the US but ya never know! |
| 07:22.08 | Kaydeethree | no |
| 07:22.18 | Kaydeethree | probably around the 1st of october |
| 07:22.24 | sb | morning |
| 07:22.48 | sylvanaar | i think level3 is good, its the hop after it |
| 07:22.51 | yssaril | Xinhuan: my forum reply and tell me if that makes sence http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=8766.msg143053#msg143053 |
| 07:23.21 | Xinhuan | ya |
| 07:23.40 | orionshock | sylvanaar: ya the 5 to 6 is fubar'ed as that is the intra-state OC line from Tx to IL |
| 07:23.41 | Xinhuan | there is still problems |
| 07:23.50 | Xinhuan | what if a person joins the group halfway |
| 07:23.55 | orionshock | apreently there is a fuck load of traffic there :\ |
| 07:24.04 | Xinhuan | how would it obtain the existing sync data |
| 07:24.17 | sylvanaar | orionshock yeah its bottlenecking me |
| 07:24.30 | orionshock | sylvanaar: best sugestion - find someone in your area that has ATT DSL and see what it looks like |
| 07:24.33 | ZealotOnAStick | The Chicago-Equinox.colo-crossing jump is a bit excessive. |
| 07:24.37 | orionshock | if it's better switch :\ |
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| 07:24.56 | ZealotOnAStick | That's similar to the Austin intra-city loop, if I remember right . . . and it's blowing 107 ms there? |
| 07:25.08 | yssaril | Xinhuan: upon joining the sync distro a update request should be fired and any info that is available should be synced to the new member |
| 07:25.16 | Recluse | QuantumDelta: the tr...? Not sure I kno what you're talking about with forums and whatnot lol |
| 07:25.24 | Xinhuan | aha, but WHO should send that info? |
| 07:25.33 | Recluse | I'm not a big forum troll/whore |
| 07:25.36 | Xinhuan | all 24 players on the joining of the 25th member? |
| 07:25.47 | sylvanaar | the vent speex codec is putting out too much bandwidth and it doesnt make it through the congestion in time |
| 07:25.53 | QuantumDelta | The European WoW forums, there's an ex-paladin rerolled rogue who fairly regularly posts there called recluse :P |
| 07:26.03 | QuantumDelta | it's alright |
| 07:26.08 | QuantumDelta | you'd know, if you were him :P |
| 07:26.10 | ZealotOnAStick | but yeah, Houston -> Chicago is also not happy. |
| 07:26.26 | sylvanaar | well, who can i bitch at |
| 07:26.30 | Xinhuan | also sent data may possibly not be in sync |
| 07:26.35 | ZealotOnAStick | Level3 I'd say. |
| 07:26.39 | sylvanaar | yeah |
| 07:26.41 | orionshock | ya sylvanaar your T2 ISP link is fook'ed for the day |
| 07:26.46 | Xinhuan | depending on whether there were any pending data yet to be received |
| 07:26.48 | neenee | Dreamchat is alive again? |
| 07:26.49 | Recluse | QuantumDelta: Ah, wouldn't be me. I'm US and have never had the pleasure of posting on EU forums. Rogue original as well XD |
| 07:26.52 | sylvanaar | orionshock its ongoing |
| 07:26.57 | ZealotOnAStick | though if they're not your direct provider, you may need to get your local to do the bitching. |
| 07:26.58 | kandarz | why would my FauxScrollFrame scroll bar disappear when I update data? |
| 07:27.00 | orionshock | ya get a new isp |
| 07:27.10 | sylvanaar | ima gripe at my isp |
| 07:27.11 | orionshock | sounds like your with a cable co |
| 07:27.12 | Imp4kT | QuantumDelta killed my priest :( |
| 07:27.17 | sylvanaar | yeah |
| 07:27.23 | orionshock | sylvanaar: nothing your isp can do btw |
| 07:27.25 | QuantumDelta | You attacked me first! *runs* |
| 07:27.29 | orionshock | it's a T2 thing not a T3 issue |
| 07:27.31 | Imp4kT | :P |
| 07:27.31 | PeterLOLz | Problem; I'm using PitBull of a recent version, combined with Bongos2. For some odd reason, every actionbar slot turns into a copy of whatever i got put in "1" (or 1st bar, 1st slot rather). Did you have any other similar reports/could there be a fix to it? |
| 07:27.49 | yssaril | Xinhuan: was thinking that the new member should broadcast the request and everyone would whisper the new member some keyphrase upon which the new member will tell the first reply he got to send the data to him (first reply assumes least lag assumes better machine/connection) |
| 07:27.54 | sylvanaar | so what do i need to do, relay? |
| 07:28.02 | ZealotOnAStick | Well, any reasonable provider should have multiple access providers. |
| 07:28.07 | Xinhuan | that would work |
| 07:28.12 | ZealotOnAStick | If they're solely reliant upon Level3, that bites. |
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| 07:28.35 | Xinhuan | but still the data that is sent to the new member isn't necessarily synced depending on pending messages yet to be received |
| 07:28.44 | orionshock | sylvanaar: you are what's called fuck'ed in a nice way, you can't call anyone to report a problem but your stuck with it till resolved |
| 07:28.47 | Xinhuan | (addon messages can be sent via "whisper" distribution) |
| 07:28.55 | sylvanaar | ah |
| 07:29.20 | orionshock | let's see if Level3 has a web site |
| 07:29.21 | ZealotOnAStick | You can try calling up Level3 support and asking them nicely if they're aware they have an issue with that segment and asking them to check into it. |
| 07:29.22 | CIA-22 | 03kaelten * r50015 10OneBag/OneBag.xml: |
| 07:29.22 | CIA-22 | OneBag: |
| 07:29.22 | CIA-22 | - Fixed Backpack icon not showing up |
| 07:29.37 | Kaelten | any other OneBag related bugs? |
| 07:29.39 | QuantumDelta | woohoo OneX addon fixes :< |
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| 07:29.45 | PeterLOLz | I got one related to OneBank |
| 07:29.54 | QuantumDelta | I imagine I have the same one. |
| 07:29.54 | ZealotOnAStick | Kaelten: I have one issue. |
| 07:29.58 | Kaelten | ? |
| 07:30.11 | PeterLOLz | When going to the bank, I seem to get error reports on each and single slot in there |
| 07:30.12 | ZealotOnAStick | It refuses to make my imbued netherweave bags behave as if they're primal mooncloth bags. |
| 07:30.15 | ZealotOnAStick | Can you fix that for me? |
| 07:30.18 | Kaelten | PeterLOLz: fixed |
| 07:30.30 | Kaelten | ZealotOnAStick: no idea what you're talking about |
| 07:30.35 | QuantumDelta | Kaelten, when did you fix that? |
| 07:30.38 | PeterLOLz | Kaelten, which error are you referring to? |
| 07:30.54 | Kaelten | PeterLOLz: the one when you open the bank, |
| 07:30.57 | PeterLOLz | Ah, right.. OneBank, thank you. |
| 07:31.01 | Kaelten | QuantumDelta: half hour back |
| 07:31.05 | QuantumDelta | oh beautiful |
| 07:31.07 | QuantumDelta | thank you :) |
| 07:31.32 | yssaril | Xinhuan: how about a buffer that stores the sync data while the new member is waiting for his base sync which then gets retroactively applied to the base sync |
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| 07:32.05 | Xinhuan | wouldn't necessarily work |
| 07:32.18 | QuantumDelta | Xinhuan/yssaril |
| 07:32.28 | QuantumDelta | How frequent does this data have to be updated? |
| 07:32.28 | yssaril | QuantumDelta: yes? |
| 07:32.35 | QuantumDelta | would anyone cry, if it was 2 second updates? |
| 07:32.52 | yssaril | depends on the application |
| 07:33.01 | Imp4kT | How about an option to just get all the data when you join the group D: |
| 07:33.05 | QuantumDelta | we're not talking about addons here then? |
| 07:33.05 | Xinhuan | lets say B changes variable X just as member QQ joins the group. B broadcasts the change, which QQ doesn't receive |
| 07:33.18 | yssaril | QuantumDelta: nope a lib |
| 07:33.19 | Xinhuan | QQ sends a Update request, which player A replies |
| 07:33.21 | QuantumDelta | Aha. |
| 07:33.27 | Xinhuan | but A hasn't received the change to X yet |
| 07:33.46 | Xinhuan | so QQ receives the sync data, but not the update to X |
| 07:33.50 | Xinhuan | which later A then receives |
| 07:34.15 | QuantumDelta | allow it to update at set intervals with formatted send data (formatted includes timestamps)? |
| 07:34.37 | QuantumDelta | it's unlikely someone is gonna have more than 2000ms in this day and age |
| 07:34.48 | Xinhuan | QuantumDelta: completely wrong |
| 07:35.06 | Xinhuan | australians, singaporeans, malaysians, new zealands play with a ping no less than 400 ms on avg |
| 07:35.22 | Xinhuan | and may momentraily go above 2000 at times |
| 07:35.31 | QuantumDelta | Being european spoils me |
| 07:35.36 | QuantumDelta | humm |
| 07:35.50 | QuantumDelta | it'd have to allow retroactive updating then |
| 07:35.56 | yssaril | QuantumDelta: dont want it to be poll based i want it to be event based so as soon as something happens it happens and thats it |
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| 07:36.16 | Xinhuan | the problem is really that there is no centralised server to organise all of this |
| 07:36.23 | Xinhuan | just a lot of peers that can join/leave at any time |
| 07:36.28 | QuantumDelta | event based is something that you ideally only want to have happen in real time situations though surely :< |
| 07:36.59 | QuantumDelta | I suppose you couldn't set one of those peers to act as a server |
| 07:37.16 | Xinhuan | you can, but you have to add code in to allow for a graceful takeover on the "server" disconencting |
| 07:37.17 | QuantumDelta | (yea that's a nasty solution but it seems workable to me :<) |
| 07:37.26 | yssaril | QuantumDelta: what is realtime? i forone see everything at a slight lag due to speed of light istance to object and proccesing in my brain :P |
| 07:37.30 | Xinhuan | where upon changes could be lost if the server disconnects |
| 07:37.35 | QuantumDelta | sub100 is classed as real time |
| 07:37.39 | Xinhuan | since "clients" aren't supposed to update |
| 07:37.42 | Xinhuan | on their own |
| 07:38.25 | QuantumDelta | Hmm. |
| 07:38.39 | CIA-22 | 03ammo * r50016 10FuBarAce/FuBar.toc.override: FuBarAce: add saved variables to override toc so old settings will remain working. |
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| 07:39.05 | QuantumDelta | wait |
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| 07:39.12 | QuantumDelta | hasn't that kind of code structure already been written somewhere? |
| 07:39.21 | Xinhuan | such as...? |
| 07:39.25 | QuantumDelta | There was a 'bit torrent' type technology someone wrote |
| 07:39.30 | QuantumDelta | 'cept that it didn't require trackers |
| 07:39.44 | Codayus | Yeah, VR is definetly acting oddly. Anyone know the average delay between orbs pre-2.2? |
| 07:39.46 | QuantumDelta | from the user end it looked and functioned like ...kazaa might |
| 07:39.53 | Xinhuan | a bittorrent technology is merely a file distribution protocol that works on static data that doesn't change |
| 07:40.03 | Xinhuan | which can be verified by using CRC and many other means |
| 07:40.07 | Xinhuan | we're dealing with dynamic data |
| 07:40.28 | Xinhuan | that is supposed to be synced across all peers |
| 07:40.40 | QuantumDelta | Hmm. |
| 07:40.41 | yssaril | Xinhuan: how about this instead of everyone repsondign with just a keyword everyoen responds with their version of each var they hold that way we can wait a couple seconds to recive all the different versions and then request individual vars from different people based on speed of responce and newest version (while waiting we are buffering all incomming data and apply it when we recived our... |
| 07:40.42 | yssaril | ...base data) |
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| 07:41.16 | CIA-22 | 03quagmire * r50017 10nQuestLog/options.lua: |
| 07:41.16 | CIA-22 | nQuestLog:options.lua |
| 07:41.16 | CIA-22 | - Added chat commands /nql and /nquestlog |
| 07:41.16 | Xinhuan | yssaril: how much data is that assuming we have a 25-man raid with a table of damage meters of 25 members? |
| 07:41.16 | CIA-22 | 03kaelten * r50018 10OneBag/OneBag.xml: |
| 07:41.16 | CIA-22 | OneBag: |
| 07:41.17 | CIA-22 | - Fixed the tooltip on the backpack bag |
| 07:41.31 | Xinhuan | 25x25 messages? |
| 07:41.37 | Xinhuan | what if 2 ppl join the raid at the same time? |
| 07:41.46 | Xinhuan | 2x25x25? |
| 07:41.49 | QuantumDelta | heh nasty |
| 07:42.24 | Xinhuan | and you're going to hold 25 copies of the same table to compare them |
| 07:42.25 | yssaril | Xinhuan: since we are only polling free types each personal table would be owned by the person so no problem there i think |
| 07:42.38 | Xinhuan | zomg garbage |
| 07:42.51 | ZealotOnAStick | What are you two doing, trying to come up with the most complex and inefficient method possible for something? |
| 07:43.15 | yssaril | dont you always get all the info about your own damage from your own combatlog? |
| 07:43.27 | Xinhuan | ZealotOnAStick: yssaril came up with the idea to have a library that can maintain a variable that is synced across all members of a distribution channel |
| 07:43.31 | yssaril | ZealotOnAStick: we are trying to do it right if thats what you mean |
| 07:43.37 | QuantumDelta | Yes unless the mob is outside of clipping distance yssaril |
| 07:43.59 | Xinhuan | this variable can be either freely modified by anyone, or can be owned by a player and only that person can modify it |
| 07:44.11 | Xinhuan | in the latter case, it is easy to sync - in the former case, not so easy |
| 07:44.17 | sylvanaar | anyone know a good proxy provider? |
| 07:44.33 | yssaril | QuantumDelta: you man combatlog range? |
| 07:44.41 | QuantumDelta | No, I mean clipping range. |
| 07:44.49 | QuantumDelta | or at the very least |
| 07:44.54 | QuantumDelta | it's significantly beyond combat log range |
| 07:44.56 | QuantumDelta | for your own damage |
| 07:45.05 | Xinhuan | anyone joining the distribution channel would then also need to obtain a copy of the variable |
| 07:45.47 | CIA-22 | 03tornhoof * r50019 10Yata/ (TotemBar.lua TotemButton.lua Yata.toc readme.txt): |
| 07:45.47 | CIA-22 | Yata: |
| 07:45.47 | CIA-22 | - Toc bumped |
| 07:45.47 | CIA-22 | - code cleanup |
| 07:45.48 | Xinhuan | applicable uses would be pretty much any variable that needs syncing, say a Threat table or a Damage meter table, or guild raid signup info, etc |
| 07:46.29 | yssaril | alright my brain is starting to hurt put anything furthere http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=8766.msg143053#msg143053 if its important i need sleep |
| 07:46.32 | Xinhuan | interesting ZealotOnAStick? :) |
| 07:47.11 | Xinhuan | the main problem is that syncing a variable on a distribution channel is that there is no "centralised server" - just a bunch of peers that can join/leave at any time |
| 07:47.40 | yssaril | night guys am gonna go to bead |
| 07:48.12 | ZealotOnAStick | I think my response this late would have to be somthing along the brain hurting thing. |
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| 07:49.23 | Xinhuan | haha |
| 07:49.26 | ZealotOnAStick | I presume in the sole owner case, there |
| 07:49.39 | ZealotOnAStick | would have to be some unique identifier to signify that? |
| 07:49.56 | ZealotOnAStick | How would you prevent spoofing it? |
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| 07:50.02 | Xinhuan | its just a library in a concept stage |
| 07:50.22 | Xinhuan | so i assume yes, you can have that |
| 07:50.34 | ZealotOnAStick | Also, what about a case where there's a set of owners with modification rights, say like "All guild Officers" and others who can't modify? |
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| 07:50.57 | Xinhuan | in a sole owner case, syncing it would mean only the owner (or set of owners) can broadcast changes to that variable |
| 07:51.13 | Xinhuan | and every peer that receives this data should check that the message orginated from such a player |
| 07:51.20 | Xinhuan | that can change it |
| 07:51.44 | Nargiddley | what about in the guild situation when none of those members are online, does noone get updates ? |
| 07:51.52 | ZealotOnAStick | right, but how are those correctly identified, and how will it prevent someone from spoofing a message saying "No, really, I'm this guy, change to this" |
| 07:52.14 | Xinhuan | SendAddonMessage has arg3 == playername |
| 07:52.15 | Xinhuan | isn't it? |
| 07:52.21 | orionshock | ya |
| 07:52.22 | Xinhuan | the player who sent the message |
| 07:52.25 | Xinhuan | you can't spoof it |
| 07:52.30 | orionshock | Xinhuan: you can |
| 07:52.42 | orionshock | edit the SV file and update the time stamp |
| 07:52.50 | Xinhuan | there is no SV |
| 07:52.55 | Xinhuan | the library doesn't maintain any SV |
| 07:53.04 | orionshock | the lib dosn't but the addon will |
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| 07:53.13 | Xinhuan | then that is the addon's problem |
| 07:53.16 | orionshock | pending style of the DB |
| 07:53.17 | Xinhuan | not the library |
| 07:53.27 | Xinhuan | any addon can interfere with any damage meter or threat already |
| 07:53.29 | ZealotOnAStick | so, arg3 == playername, is that solely administered by the client, or can an addon alter arg3's value? |
| 07:53.32 | Xinhuan | and this wouldn't be any difference |
| 07:53.43 | Xinhuan | arg3 is a global set by the wow client |
| 07:53.52 | Xinhuan | on a ADDON_MESSAGE event |
| 07:54.02 | Xinhuan | yes it can be changed by any addon |
| 07:54.03 | orionshock | Xinhuan: no, arg3 is passed as part of the event to the function |
| 07:54.10 | orionshock | it's not a global |
| 07:54.18 | Xinhuan | yes orionshock, it is passed, but a corresponding global is also set |
| 07:54.21 | Xinhuan | in case you didn't know |
| 07:54.32 | Xinhuan | the args weren't passed until patch 1.9 or so |
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| 07:54.41 | Xinhuan | to encourage ppl to use locals rather than globals |
| 07:54.50 | orionshock | with so many events firing it wouldn't make sense to make a global |
| 07:54.57 | Xinhuan | it does |
| 07:55.01 | Nargiddley | events used to *only* have globals |
| 07:55.02 | Xinhuan | no args were passed until 1.9 |
| 07:55.10 | Xinhuan | events are pure globals until then |
| 07:55.12 | Nargiddley | theres only ever one event happening at a time |
| 07:55.17 | Xinhuan | and backwards compatibility is maintained |
| 07:55.23 | Xinhuan | only one event is active at any one time |
| 07:55.33 | Xinhuan | all event listeners deal with that event, then the next one is fired |
| 07:55.45 | Xinhuan | and all the globals then changed by WoW for the next event |
| 07:56.02 | orionshock | true Nargiddley but bu the time a function proccesses that event and uses the variable it could be changed, no? |
| 07:56.09 | cladhaire | either way, the globals should not be used. |
| 07:56.10 | Xinhuan | "this" "arg1".."arg9" "event" are all globals |
| 07:56.15 | cladhaire | for this very reason |
| 07:56.20 | Xinhuan | yes it can orionshock |
| 07:56.23 | CIA-22 | 03kaelten * r50020 10OneRing/OneRing.toc: OneRing: Update TOC |
| 07:56.26 | Xinhuan | that is how ct_raid used to do it |
| 07:56.27 | Nargiddley | orionshock, if a previous event handler changes it |
| 07:56.27 | cladhaire | that's why every event handler shoudl be frame, event, ... |
| 07:56.30 | orionshock | so cladhaire point stands |
| 07:56.33 | Xinhuan | by changing the event global to some other name |
| 07:56.51 | CIA-22 | 03kaelten * r50021 10OneView/OneView.toc: OneView: Updated TOC |
| 07:56.54 | Xinhuan | but we're assuming no foul play in such a data syncing library |
| 07:57.00 | LetheKai|Away | Hey, anyone know why my mouseovers in my inventory and character window wouldn't be working? They seem to work for everything else. |
| 07:57.02 | Xinhuan | any addon can introuce foulplay |
| 07:57.02 | orionshock | assume nothing |
| 07:57.09 | Xinhuan | and we're not interested in that |
| 07:57.41 | Xinhuan | LetheKai|Away: patch 2.2 stuff broke it, update your addons, or wait for them to be updated |
| 07:59.22 | LetheKai|Away | They're updated, but what would affect JUST the mouseovers for inventory/char screen? TinyTip seems to be working fine for everything else. I just want to make sure I'm not missing some library or something. |
| 07:59.38 | ZealotOnAStick | You use Itemrack? |
| 07:59.41 | Xinhuan | its an addon issue LetheKai|Away |
| 07:59.46 | ZealotOnAStick | also, if you use a bagmod, which? |
| 08:00.02 | Xinhuan | Gametooltips now require a frame to be passed to them in an OnEvent handler |
| 08:00.13 | LetheKai|Away | I have itemrack but it's not being used right now. And I use One Bag. |
| 08:00.18 | Xinhuan | so if you have bag addons or addons that modify the bahavior of your inv/char |
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| 08:00.25 | Xinhuan | then that addon would be the issue |
| 08:00.28 | ZealotOnAStick | Onebag was just updated over the last hour or so by KAelten. |
| 08:00.29 | orionshock | LetheKai|Away: one bag got updated not 30mins ago |
| 08:00.30 | ZealotOnAStick | update that. |
| 08:00.35 | Xinhuan | culprits are itemrack, OneBag, OneBank, and many others |
| 08:00.40 | LetheKai|Away | I just updated ~5 mins ago. |
| 08:00.40 | ZealotOnAStick | Also, Itemrack was updated, get 1.992 from WowI. |
| 08:00.54 | Hey-WTF | has clique been updated and tested to work with 2.2? |
| 08:01.01 | Kaelten | Xinhuan: you can remove One* from that ist |
| 08:01.04 | Kaelten | list |
| 08:01.05 | orionshock | Hey-WTF: yes |
| 08:01.08 | Xinhuan | ok kael :) |
| 08:01.16 | Xinhuan | clique has been updated on wowwi with 2.2 |
| 08:01.18 | Thelyna | I hate router reboots |
| 08:01.21 | Xinhuan | some time yesterday |
| 08:01.23 | cladhaire | Hey-WTF: Perhaps you could look on wowinterface and see? but yes. |
| 08:01.45 | ZealotOnAStick | clad, how obscure is your clique issue you wanted help testing? |
| 08:01.59 | cladhaire | ZealotOnAStick: quite right now.. I can't repro any of the issues they're reporting. |
| 08:02.05 | cladhaire | its fucking frustrating, especially cause I don't have WoW |
| 08:02.13 | Xinhuan | what are they reporting? |
| 08:02.17 | cladhaire | so every time i ask someone to do something, they can't repro the user issue. |
| 08:02.32 | cladhaire | The current set of issues is they can't click-cast on party pets |
| 08:02.43 | ZealotOnAStick | Ah. Hrm. |
| 08:02.44 | cladhaire | they say in xperl and pitbull |
| 08:02.45 | Xinhuan | any particular unit frame? |
| 08:02.49 | Kaelten | cladhaire: moved yet? |
| 08:03.01 | cladhaire | but the blizzard default should have the same issues, if thats the case. |
| 08:03.05 | Xinhuan | i have both clique and xperl, want me to try anything? |
| 08:03.06 | cladhaire | Kaelten: i'm in england, yes. |
| 08:03.10 | ZealotOnAStick | I could two-box and try with my druid and warlock. |
| 08:03.16 | Kaelten | cool, hope it went well |
| 08:03.19 | cladhaire | Xinhuan: if you can get a party with pets, that would be helpful. |
| 08:03.25 | cladhaire | i hope to get to log into wow later today |
| 08:03.26 | cladhaire | fucking college |
| 08:03.30 | LetheKai|Away | BTW thanks for Clique, Clad, it's wonderful. =) |
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| 08:03.39 | Xinhuan | yes i think i can do that cladhaire |
| 08:03.41 | ZealotOnAStick | but more than that is a bit unlikely this late, most of the guild is out. |
| 08:03.50 | cladhaire | LetheKai|Away: thanks |
| 08:03.53 | CIA-22 | 03nevcairiel * r50022 10Bartender3/CHANGELOG.txt: Bartender3: update changelog |
| 08:03.55 | cladhaire | Xinhuan: that would be great |
| 08:04.19 | Xinhuan | what do i do? |
| 08:04.30 | cladhaire | do you use clique? |
| 08:04.36 | Xinhuan | yes |
| 08:04.38 | Xinhuan | and xperl |
| 08:04.45 | cladhaire | just try to click-cast heal the party's pets. |
| 08:05.00 | cladhaire | http://code.google.com/p/wow-clique/issues/detail?id=70 |
| 08:05.02 | CIA-22 | 03phyber * r50023 10XPBarNone/XPBarNone.toc: |
| 08:05.02 | CIA-22 | XPBarNone: |
| 08:05.02 | CIA-22 | - TOC -> 20200 |
| 08:05.04 | Xinhuan | assuming you didn't update the copy of clique i got off wowwi about 20 hours ago |
| 08:05.06 | cladhaire | is the bug report. |
| 08:05.17 | LetheKai|Away | Xin and Zealot, thanks for the help, I forgot I don't get ItemRack from wowace. >.< Assumed it had updated, silly me. |
| 08:05.19 | cladhaire | r87 is the latest the config window will show you what you're using. |
| 08:05.52 | cladhaire | there's another "macro" issue.. but i can't repro that one |
| 08:05.54 | cladhaire | brb |
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| 08:06.31 | CIA-22 | 03phyber * r50024 10IRQ/IRQ.toc: IRQ: TOC -> 20200 |
| 08:06.47 | Xinhuan | hold on, i need to find a player with a pet class ;p |
| 08:07.10 | cladhaire | sorry about that |
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| 08:07.43 | cladhaire | i think its probably another blizzard bug like the first one |
| 08:07.49 | cladhaire | but i have to have better information to give Slouken |
| 08:09.57 | Xinhuan | yep clique isn't working on partytarget or partypet |
| 08:10.06 | sylvanaar | or raidpet |
| 08:10.09 | sylvanaar | im late |
| 08:10.14 | cladhaire | np |
| 08:10.19 | cladhaire | okay can you try something out for me? |
| 08:10.23 | cladhaire | get me a frame name you want to test on |
| 08:10.25 | cladhaire | and disable clique |
| 08:10.40 | Xinhuan | what does that mean? o_O |
| 08:10.59 | cladhaire | mouse over the partypet frame, and /dump GetMouseFocus():GetName() |
| 08:11.18 | cladhaire | then disable clique, and reload ui |
| 08:11.30 | Xinhuan | that would be XPerl_partypet1 |
| 08:11.33 | Xinhuan | which is supposedly registered |
| 08:11.33 | cladhaire | okay |
| 08:11.35 | cladhaire | run the following |
| 08:11.51 | cladhaire | what classa re you? |
| 08:11.53 | cladhaire | druid? |
| 08:11.59 | Xinhuan | mage |
| 08:12.27 | cladhaire | XPerl_partypet1:SetAttribute("alt-type1", "spell"); XPerl_partypet1:SetAttribute("alt-spell1", "Arcane Intellect") |
| 08:12.36 | cladhaire | run that in a /script |
| 08:12.42 | cladhaire | then alt-left click on the frame, what happens? |
| 08:12.53 | Xinhuan | give me a moment, /run DisableAddon("Clique") |
| 08:12.55 | Xinhuan | and reloading ui |
| 08:12.58 | cladhaire | thanks. |
| 08:12.58 | sb | meh |
| 08:13.09 | sb | bad bad meditation change :/ |
| 08:13.25 | cladhaire | ? |
| 08:13.28 | Xinhuan | alt-click indeeds buffs the pet |
| 08:13.30 | Xinhuan | with AI |
| 08:13.31 | cladhaire | why is it bad? |
| 08:13.31 | sb | priest changes in 2.3 ;) |
| 08:13.38 | Xinhuan | with that registration |
| 08:13.42 | cladhaire | Xinhuan: now, run XPerl_partypet1:SetAttribute("alt-unit1", "mouseover") |
| 08:13.46 | cladhaire | and try again |
| 08:13.48 | sb | because its an inofficial "spirit > mp5" statement to me :/ |
| 08:13.55 | sb | so -> re-socket items *sigh* |
| 08:13.59 | sb | to 9heal+4spi |
| 08:14.02 | Xinhuan | what does that do? |
| 08:14.17 | cladhaire | Xinhuan: its something clique is doing to compensate for _another_ blizzard bug |
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| 08:14.21 | cladhaire | unless its been fixed somehow. |
| 08:14.25 | Xinhuan | nothing happens on alt-clicking |
| 08:14.39 | cladhaire | now that, is incredibly odd. |
| 08:15.01 | cladhaire | so this seems to happen on any composite unitid |
| 08:15.03 | cryogen | blizzard "optimised" a load of the click handling stuff |
| 08:15.07 | orionshock | cladhaire: may want to make sure that that's the right frame |
| 08:15.15 | cladhaire | ...? |
| 08:15.19 | orionshock | iirc |
| 08:15.22 | [Ammo] | it is because xin was testing it :p |
| 08:15.27 | orionshock | ..one sec slow typer |
| 08:15.55 | Speeddymon | god damn packet loss.. i cant connect to the game but i am still connected here |
| 08:16.00 | orionshock | iirc most UF addons use a different layer for click to cast registration ... then again i guess that would be the frame returned by GetMouseFocus():GetName() |
| 08:16.15 | orionshock | so nevermind... |
| 08:16.18 | cladhaire | orionshock: it worked the first time. |
| 08:16.19 | Xinhuan | that frame is exactly what is used ;p |
| 08:16.20 | cladhaire | adding the unit attribute broke it |
| 08:16.22 | cladhaire | that would bea bug :P |
| 08:16.22 | orionshock | irc and AV is backwards |
| 08:16.38 | Xinhuan | :SetAttribute("alt-unit1", "mouseover") <-- so what does this really do? |
| 08:16.48 | Xinhuan | set the unit target to "mouseover"? |
| 08:16.52 | cladhaire | well, do you want to see the other bug? |
| 08:16.53 | cladhaire | ;-) |
| 08:17.05 | Xinhuan | well the hunter left the party ;p |
| 08:17.08 | Xinhuan | so hehe |
| 08:17.11 | cladhaire | I assume XPerl_player is the player frame? |
| 08:17.24 | Antiarc | Things that are awesome: Hot polish sausage and sauerkraut at 1 AM |
| 08:17.42 | Xinhuan | XPerl_Player |
| 08:17.44 | cladhaire | XPerl_player:SetAttribute("alt-type1", "spell"); XPerl_player:SetAttribute("alt-spell1", "Arcane Intellect"); |
| 08:17.46 | cladhaire | ok |
| 08:17.55 | cladhaire | XPerl_Player:SetAttribute("alt-type1", "spell"); XPerl_Player:SetAttribute("alt-spell1", "Arcane Intellect"); |
| 08:18.07 | cladhaire | then with having nothing targeted.. try to buff yourself |
| 08:18.32 | Xinhuan | alt-clicking the playerframe buffs myself with AI, as expected |
| 08:18.38 | cladhaire | if AutoSelfCast is enabled, it casts the spell on you. |
| 08:18.43 | cladhaire | now disable AutoSelfCast for a moment :P |
| 08:18.52 | Xinhuan | err wait |
| 08:18.53 | cladhaire | It will no longer cast the spell on you |
| 08:19.06 | cladhaire | Now, target a friendly unit that isn't you. |
| 08:19.11 | cladhaire | and alt-click on the playerframe again |
| 08:19.16 | cladhaire | it will cast the spell on your target |
| 08:19.23 | Recluse | D= |
| 08:19.27 | Xinhuan | uh auto selfcast isn't on |
| 08:19.28 | Xinhuan | for me |
| 08:19.41 | cladhaire | okay |
| 08:19.45 | cladhaire | was there a mini-patch at all? |
| 08:19.48 | Xinhuan | no |
| 08:20.02 | cladhaire | alright, what happens if you target a frienldy unit that isnt you |
| 08:20.20 | Xinhuan | i am targetting a warrior, and alt-click on my playerframe still buffs myself |
| 08:20.45 | cladhaire | can you /dump XPerl_Player:GetAttribute("alt-unit1") |
| 08:20.49 | Fisker-- | oh man |
| 08:20.51 | Fisker-- | i fapped |
| 08:21.02 | Xinhuan | nil |
| 08:21.04 | Xinhuan | is the result |
| 08:21.04 | Fisker-- | 1/3 healing = +damage = double spell damage for me |
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| 08:21.07 | cladhaire | cause this was a reproducable issue last night |
| 08:21.19 | Fisker-- | not double spell damage but double damage from my spells of course :P |
| 08:21.21 | Xinhuan | note that i am using xperl 2.3.7 |
| 08:21.26 | cladhaire | mind trying the same thing with just the Blizzard frames? |
| 08:21.37 | buu | Fisker--: How does that work? |
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| 08:21.56 | cladhaire | PlayerFrame:SetAttribute("alt-type1", "spell"); PlayerFrame:SetAttribute("alt-spell1", "Arcane Intellect") |
| 08:22.06 | cladhaire | and tell me what happens when you alt-left click |
| 08:22.09 | Xinhuan | logging out to disable xperl |
| 08:22.09 | Xinhuan | brb |
| 08:23.21 | Xinhuan | alt-click casts AI on myself with nothing targetted |
| 08:23.32 | Xinhuan | that is the blizzard default player frame |
| 08:23.38 | cladhaire | and when you have someone targeted? |
| 08:23.48 | Xinhuan | same |
| 08:23.52 | cladhaire | okay |
| 08:23.57 | cladhaire | would you try the following for me then? |
| 08:23.59 | cladhaire | re-enable clique |
| 08:24.02 | cladhaire | re-enable XPerl |
| 08:24.04 | cladhaire | but edit clique |
| 08:24.39 | cladhaire | change line 418 from frame:SetAttribute(entry.modifier.."unit"..button, entry.arg5 or "mouseover") |
| 08:24.39 | cladhaire | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:24.43 | cladhaire | i.e. get rid of the or "mouseover" |
| 08:24.52 | cladhaire | which is what I added in r86 to resolve the first issue |
| 08:24.59 | cladhaire | which now, you can't reproduce :P |
| 08:25.20 | Xinhuan | chnaging |
| 08:25.22 | Xinhuan | changing* |
| 08:25.34 | Xinhuan | any other changes other than line 418? |
| 08:25.40 | cladhaire | no, not at the moment |
| 08:25.46 | cladhaire | as long as you're using straight spell bindings. |
| 08:26.05 | Xinhuan | ok i'm logged in now |
| 08:26.19 | cladhaire | ok |
| 08:26.30 | cladhaire | see if you can find a party pet again :P |
| 08:26.31 | orionshock | cladhaire: sence you seem to be a pro at it, a rather dumb question: the Frame Attribs can only be set out of combat right? |
| 08:26.35 | cladhaire | and <3 |
| 08:26.37 | cladhaire | orionshock: correct |
| 08:26.41 | Xinhuan | i use shift-click as my AI spell |
| 08:26.52 | Xinhuan | shift-click is casting on my targetframe properly, but not playerframe |
| 08:26.53 | cladhaire | k |
| 08:27.06 | Xinhuan | shift-clicking on playerframe will cast AI on targetframe |
| 08:27.23 | cladhaire | see this was the issue |
| 08:27.27 | cladhaire | why i added "mouseover" |
| 08:27.29 | cladhaire | cause it fixed it. |
| 08:27.31 | Xinhuan | now let me find a pet |
| 08:29.17 | Xinhuan | ok clique doesn't cast on anything unless i have a target selected |
| 08:29.26 | Xinhuan | and it will cast on that target |
| 08:29.33 | Xinhuan | with the line 418 change |
| 08:29.36 | cladhaire | that doesn't jive with what we just tested, tho. |
| 08:29.43 | cladhaire | but that's exactly the issue we were having. |
| 08:30.10 | cladhaire | the mouseover change, won't properly resolve composite targets tho. |
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| 08:30.57 | orionshock | composite targets , ie like party1pet ? |
| 08:31.00 | cladhaire | yes |
| 08:31.00 | Xinhuan | you seem to be correct |
| 08:31.04 | cladhaire | or party1target |
| 08:31.08 | Xinhuan | it is not resolving for targettarget |
| 08:31.10 | cladhaire | of targettarget |
| 08:31.16 | cladhaire | that, i consider a bug |
| 08:31.25 | Xinhuan | or anything that has a -target or -pet suffi |
| 08:31.27 | Xinhuan | suffix |
| 08:31.29 | cladhaire | i just dont know why we can't reproduce the issue thats affecting clique |
| 08:31.35 | orionshock | is it a dynamically created composite? |
| 08:31.47 | cladhaire | yes |
| 08:31.52 | cladhaire | its evaluated by the game each time you use it. |
| 08:32.01 | orionshock | that might be the issue |
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| 08:32.13 | cladhaire | no, it worked pre 2.2 ;-) |
| 08:32.42 | cladhaire | Xinhuan: So to be clear, you do NOT have AutoSelfCast on? |
| 08:32.48 | Xinhuan | that is correct |
| 08:32.57 | Xinhuan | the checkbox is empty in the options |
| 08:33.07 | cladhaire | is clique still edited |
| 08:33.09 | cladhaire | or did you revert it? |
| 08:33.12 | Xinhuan | still edited |
| 08:33.17 | cladhaire | open /clique |
| 08:33.18 | cladhaire | click profiles |
| 08:33.23 | cladhaire | make a new profile called "test" |
| 08:33.28 | cladhaire | this will reset your config without losing anything |
| 08:33.36 | Xinhuan | done |
| 08:33.54 | cladhaire | set a single click cast (arcane intellect) to whatever you'd like |
| 08:33.55 | orionshock | cladhaire: what i meant by dyn-created Unit ID is SetAttribute(var1..var2, ... |
| 08:34.01 | orionshock | is that how it's setup? |
| 08:34.04 | cladhaire | orionshock: no, not in the least |
| 08:34.13 | orionshock | ok |
| 08:34.20 | cladhaire | and that wouldn't make a difference if it was |
| 08:34.24 | cladhaire | it would be pre-set dynamic |
| 08:34.28 | Xinhuan | i set AI rank 1 as my alt-click |
| 08:34.35 | cladhaire | Xinhuan: okay.. run /clique debug |
| 08:34.35 | Xinhuan | alt-leftbutton that is |
| 08:34.38 | cladhaire | whats it show? |
| 08:35.03 | Xinhuan | a table |
| 08:35.11 | cladhaire | and a list of attribute/value pairs |
| 08:35.13 | cladhaire | correct? |
| 08:35.16 | Xinhuan | yes |
| 08:35.18 | cladhaire | can you screenshot it for me? |
| 08:35.31 | Xinhuan | sure |
| 08:35.33 | Xinhuan | give me a minute |
| 08:35.40 | cladhaire | images.gammatester.com to post it quickly |
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| 08:36.42 | Xinhuan | http://home2.pacific.net.sg/~xinhuan/wow/temp.jpg |
| 08:37.32 | cladhaire | and it doesn't work in this configuration, correct? |
| 08:37.46 | Xinhuan | yup |
| 08:37.55 | Xinhuan | only casts on my target if one is selected |
| 08:38.17 | cladhaire | if you do XPerl_Player:SetAttribute("alt-unit1", "mouseover") it works, correct? |
| 08:38.37 | Xinhuan | yes, that makes it work on myself |
| 08:38.59 | cladhaire | okay, now delete that clique binding |
| 08:39.03 | cladhaire | and reloadui |
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| 08:39.25 | Xinhuan | delete that binding or the whole test profile? |
| 08:39.29 | cladhaire | binding |
| 08:39.33 | cladhaire | need the test profile still |
| 08:39.58 | Xinhuan | deleted and reloaded |
| 08:40.14 | cladhaire | then run for k,v in pairs{"alt-unit1", "alt-type1", alt-spell1"} do ChatFrame1:AddMessage(k .. ", " .. tostring(XPerl_Player:GetAttribute(k))) end |
| 08:40.26 | cladhaire | and just tell me what the three attributes are set to |
| 08:40.47 | Grum | cladhaire: sweet work on updating clique! :D |
| 08:40.55 | Xinhuan | some unfinished string error |
| 08:40.59 | Xinhuan | in that /run |
| 08:40.59 | cladhaire | Xinhuan: lol okay |
| 08:41.04 | cladhaire | dump those three attributes then? |
| 08:41.06 | cladhaire | on that frame? |
| 08:41.10 | cladhaire | or |
| 08:41.15 | cladhaire | add a quote before alt-spell1 |
| 08:41.19 | cladhaire | since i suck |
| 08:41.34 | CIA-22 | 03phyber * r50025 10BagSlots/BagSlots.toc: BagSlots: TOC -> 20200 |
| 08:41.38 | Ellipsis | o.O |
| 08:41.48 | CIA-22 | 03phyber * r50026 10Cosplay/Cosplay.toc: Cosplay: TOC -> 20200 |
| 08:41.50 | Xinhuan | all 3 is nil |
| 08:41.58 | Thordon | I dont know if this is the right place to ask, but Ill ask anyway. How do I add a portrait to my bars in pitbull? |
| 08:42.05 | CIA-22 | 03phyber * r50027 10Fizzle/Fizzle.toc: Fizzle: TOC -> 20200 |
| 08:42.09 | Fisker-- | buu i dunno :O |
| 08:42.15 | Ellipsis | enable the Portrait model, Thordon |
| 08:42.17 | Ellipsis | er..module |
| 08:42.18 | Antiarc | Thordon: Install and/or activate the Pitbull portrat module |
| 08:42.22 | Fisker-- | but +healing gets 33% +damage |
| 08:42.22 | nevcairiel | Bibi: those "2.3 patch notes", are all those confirmed changes, or some good guesses? :) |
| 08:42.22 | CIA-22 | 03phyber * r50028 10FuBar_DigiCamFu/FuBar_DigiCamFu.toc: FuBar_DigiCamFu: TOC -> 20200 |
| 08:42.24 | Fisker-- | and i liek that |
| 08:42.27 | Ellipsis | WTB caffeine? |
| 08:42.30 | CIA-22 | 03phyber * r50029 10FuBar_RestFu/FuBar_RestFu.toc: FuBar_RestFu: TOC -> 20200 |
| 08:42.31 | cladhaire | hahahah btw: http://youtube.com/watch?v=gnZHiuJZ7CQ&mode=related&search= |
| 08:42.32 | Thordon | Ellipsis, Antiarc : Thanks :) |
| 08:42.48 | Bibi | nevcairiel : confirmed, they're a blue post compilation basically |
| 08:42.52 | CIA-22 | 03phyber * r50030 10FuBar_TopScoreFu/FuBar_TopScoreFu.toc: FuBar_TopScoreFu: TOC -> 20200 |
| 08:42.59 | Xinhuan | or rather all 3 of those attributes are nil |
| 08:43.03 | CIA-22 | 03phyber * r50031 10ManaPerc/ManaPerc.toc: ManaPerc: TOC -> 20200 |
| 08:43.05 | cladhaire | Xinhuan: good :P |
| 08:43.10 | Bibi | I had most of the sources up yesterday but crashed, and was too lazy to re-add them this morning when I woke up |
| 08:43.11 | cladhaire | Xinhuan: now we'll set them |
| 08:43.13 | Bibi | might do it now |
| 08:43.14 | cladhaire | with clique enabled |
| 08:43.21 | nevcairiel | Bibi: ah cool |
| 08:43.27 | Grum | cladhaire: <3 for Clique ^^ (yes just needs to be said) |
| 08:43.44 | cladhaire | XPerl_Player:SetAttribute("alt-type1", "spell"); XPerl_Player:SetAttribute("alt-spell1", "Arcane Intellect") |
| 08:43.52 | cladhaire | you should get the "broken" behavior |
| 08:44.36 | Xinhuan | running those 2 attributes allows me to self-buff with no target |
| 08:44.44 | cladhaire | ZOMG LIES |
| 08:44.50 | cladhaire | i'm confused now =( |
| 08:44.54 | syeren | Hmm, why does Mend Watch keep reseting it's position everytime I relog / reload my UI :/ |
| 08:45.03 | Ellipsis | rofl cladhaire, best video evar |
| 08:45.53 | Xinhuan | btw running |
| 08:45.55 | Xinhuan | /run XPerl_Player:SetAttribute("alt-type1", "spell"); XPerl_Player:SetAttribute("alt-spell1", "Arcane Intellect") |
| 08:45.58 | Xinhuan | still shows all nils ;p |
| 08:46.12 | Xinhuan | oops i mean the other one |
| 08:46.15 | Xinhuan | with the loop |
| 08:46.18 | cladhaire | gah |
| 08:46.20 | cladhaire | can you dump those attributes manually then? |
| 08:47.17 | Xinhuan | /dump XPerl_Player:GetAttribute("alt-unit1") == nil |
| 08:47.19 | CIA-22 | 03krakhaan * r50032 10AMP/ (7 files): |
| 08:47.19 | CIA-22 | AMP: initial commit |
| 08:47.19 | CIA-22 | - Answering Machine Plus |
| 08:47.34 | cladhaire | unit1 should be |
| 08:47.38 | Xinhuan | /dump XPerl_Player:GetAttribute("alt-spell1") == "Arcane Intellect" |
| 08:47.38 | cladhaire | type1 and spell1 should be set tho |
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| 08:47.39 | Kaelten | g'night |
| 08:47.50 | Xinhuan | /dump XPerl_Player:GetAttribute("alt-spell1") == "Arcane Intellect" == "spell" |
| 08:47.58 | Xinhuan | that one is spell1 that is |
| 08:48.00 | cladhaire | okay |
| 08:48.01 | Xinhuan | i didn't edit |
| 08:48.09 | cladhaire | so you have type and spell set |
| 08:48.10 | cladhaire | unit isn't. |
| 08:48.10 | Arcaia | god.. my av just crashed |
| 08:48.15 | Arcaia | 30 second queue times though |
| 08:48.19 | Grum | lol short ^^ |
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| 08:48.28 | Xinhuan | unit1 = nil, spell1 = AI, type1 = spell |
| 08:48.35 | cladhaire | Xinhuan: okay, I'm gonna have to go do some troubleshooting |
| 08:48.44 | cladhaire | i should be able to look at it by noon GMT or so. |
| 08:48.47 | cladhaire | hopefully I can figure everything out =/ |
| 08:48.53 | cladhaire | but this is very odd. |
| 08:48.54 | Xinhuan | i have about an hour ;p |
| 08:49.02 | cladhaire | well I've gotta go shower and do other things |
| 08:49.08 | cladhaire | then head to the library, hopefully. |
| 08:49.12 | Tem | CHOCOLATE RAIN |
| 08:49.22 | nevcairiel | oh yeah, clad lives in GMT now |
| 08:49.34 | Tem | MoonWolf, blame clad |
| 08:50.01 | Ellipsis | now I'm gonna have that stuck in my head |
| 08:50.06 | Ellipsis | ~lart Tem |
| 08:50.06 | purl | beats Tem to within 2.54cm of his life |
| 08:50.11 | MoonWolf | also, all of you loose the game. |
| 08:50.16 | *** join/#wowace Necrathex (n=bleptop@82-171-43-202.dsl.ip.tiscali.nl) |
| 08:50.19 | Ellipsis | dammit >_< |
| 08:50.24 | Tem | I already lost |
| 08:50.36 | Ellipsis | I went like 3 weeks |
| 08:50.41 | Ellipsis | and you had to ruin it MoonWolf |
| 08:50.41 | Tem | Did you know that tooltips anchor their right text to the left text? |
| 08:50.46 | Grum | why not 3.14cm? :( |
| 08:50.55 | MoonWolf | grum 2.54 is an inch |
| 08:51.01 | Grum | so? :( |
| 08:51.06 | MoonWolf | tem, no did not. |
| 08:51.14 | MoonWolf | stupid idea |
| 08:51.15 | Ellipsis | interesting, Tem o.O |
| 08:51.17 | Tem | well, neither did I until I tried to widen some tooltips |
| 08:51.18 | cladhaire | Xinhuan: thanks so much for your help =/ |
| 08:51.22 | cladhaire | I'll let you know what ends up happening |
| 08:51.26 | Xinhuan | sure :) |
| 08:51.35 | Tem | but when you do it like that, the right text doesn't move |
| 08:51.44 | CIA-22 | 03krakhaan * r50033 10AMPFu/ (24 files in 9 dirs): |
| 08:51.44 | CIA-22 | AMPFu: initial commit |
| 08:51.44 | CIA-22 | - FuBar plugin for Answering Machine Plus |
| 08:51.46 | MoonWolf | why whiden a tooltip |
| 08:51.47 | Tem | so you have extra space on the right |
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| 08:51.52 | MoonWolf | they do that temselves |
| 08:52.02 | Tem | MoonWolf, EnhancedTooltip type thing |
| 08:52.08 | MoonWolf | again. |
| 08:52.14 | MoonWolf | maybe this time you can FINISH it. |
| 08:52.26 | MoonWolf | :P |
| 08:52.31 | Tem | that was ItemCompare |
| 08:52.41 | Tem | and no, it's not being worked on |
| 08:52.42 | cladhaire | this is sioraiocht, i took over clad's comp |
| 08:52.56 | Xinhuan | is this issue affecting just Clique? or other click-casting addons as well? |
| 08:53.15 | Tem | sioraiocht, I can't pronouce your sn. I will be pinging you as 'tom,' kay |
| 08:53.17 | Tem | ? |
| 08:53.58 | Arcaia | c o rye aww ct? |
| 08:54.24 | Tem | Arcaia, was that even a language? |
| 08:54.28 | MoonWolf | what happend to easy one and two part names ? |
| 08:54.33 | Tem | or did you just randomly hit the keyboard? |
| 08:54.50 | Tem | MoonWolf, I blame tek |
| 08:54.55 | ZealotOnAStick | I'd say . . . swahrokt |
| 08:55.00 | Xinhuan | that was a attempted pronunciation of.. his name |
| 08:55.34 | Tem | oh, I see, Arcaia, you were trying to figure out the pronounciation |
| 08:55.40 | Arcaia | aye. |
| 08:56.12 | orionshock | humm.... cladhaire 's want to debug clique has peaked my interest in a grid module that pulls information from pallyPower and lets pallys just click away at blessings |
| 08:56.25 | cladhaire | hahah |
| 08:56.35 | cladhaire | shore-ee-u-ch-t |
| 08:56.48 | cladhaire | ch being like in Loch or Bach |
| 08:56.52 | MoonWolf | ah |
| 08:56.56 | Xinhuan | uh its ok Tom :) |
| 08:56.58 | MoonWolf | that makes it pronounceble. |
| 08:57.19 | orionshock | --clad .. no clue what you said there |
| 08:57.32 | cladhaire | <------ clad's bf, for now |
| 08:57.47 | orionshock | so whats that say in engrish? |
| 08:57.50 | Tekkub | murr? |
| 08:57.56 | MoonWolf | mer ? |
| 08:58.00 | CIA-22 | 03krakhaan * r50034 10AMPFu/: |
| 08:58.00 | CIA-22 | AMPFu: |
| 08:58.00 | CIA-22 | - added externs |
| 08:58.03 | cladhaire | oh wait, i forgot there are accents on that word (sÃoraÃocht) |
| 08:58.19 | cladhaire | it would be sheer-ee-ucht then |
| 08:58.20 | cladhaire | sorry |
| 08:58.20 | cladhaire | lol |
| 08:58.26 | cladhaire | it means eternity in irish |
| 08:58.27 | MoonWolf | may i be the first to say, YOUR LANGUAGE IS SILLY. |
| 08:58.28 | Tekkub | cladbuttbuddy, tell clad I hate him |
| 08:58.34 | cladhaire | ROFL |
| 08:58.37 | cladhaire | he's in the shower |
| 08:58.43 | Nickenyfiken | hahaha |
| 08:58.55 | kandarz | join him? |
| 08:58.56 | Nickenyfiken | Why aren't you with him? |
| 08:58.57 | Tekkub | go tell him that Tek sent you to take pictures |
| 08:59.08 | cladhaire | Nickenyfiken: because his shower is TINY |
| 08:59.17 | kandarz | so? |
| 08:59.24 | Codayus | That's not obviously a disadvantage... |
| 08:59.33 | Kreiger | depends on how tiny. |
| 08:59.37 | MoonWolf | it is if you can' t both fit in the same room and move.... |
| 08:59.45 | MoonWolf | at some point tiny is simply to small. |
| 08:59.47 | cladhaire | right, and we can't |
| 08:59.50 | Codayus | Oh... |
| 08:59.53 | Codayus | Like, REALLY tiny. |
| 08:59.57 | Codayus | Nevermind. |
| 09:00.04 | cladhaire | we have sad shower situations |
| 09:00.06 | Tekkub | ah new stuff to harass clad about |
| 09:00.09 | MoonWolf | its like, somehow we managed to both fit in this space.... now how do we get OUT. |
| 09:00.17 | cladhaire | MoonWolf: EXACTLY my concerns |
| 09:00.17 | kandarz | you claim it's tiny, are you refering to tiny for 2 people? |
| 09:00.28 | Tekkub | our shower is bearly big enough for us... but then I'm not as small as I used to be |
| 09:00.34 | Tekkub | which I like, but Roh doesn't |
| 09:00.49 | cladhaire | kandarz: no, tiny for one person, sadly |
| 09:00.53 | neenee | ooh, TF2 update |
| 09:00.56 | Tekkub | now I just need to work on the fur |
| 09:00.57 | Kreiger | There's cozy and then theres teeny. |
| 09:01.01 | Codayus | neenee: Ooh? |
| 09:01.09 | cladhaire | the house clad lives in looks like it was built around the end of the victorian era |
| 09:01.12 | MoonWolf | making hair grow is kinda harder |
| 09:01.16 | MoonWolf | maybe, implants.... |
| 09:01.23 | CIA-22 | 03phyber * r50035 10FuBar_BagFu/FuBar_BagFu.toc: FuBar_BagFu: TOC -> 20200 |
| 09:01.50 | Codayus | cladhaire: Nothing wrong with that; my house was built in the 1890s. If the bathrooms haven't been remodeled since then though... oO |
| 09:01.51 | cladhaire | anywhere here have a nokia n95? |
| 09:01.56 | CIA-22 | 03phyber * r50036 10FuBar_NameToggleFu/FuBar_NameToggleFu.toc: FuBar_NameToggleFu: TOC -> 20200 |
| 09:02.06 | MoonWolf | not really no. |
| 09:02.06 | neenee | nope, Motofone F3 here. |
| 09:02.17 | Nickenyfiken | Motofone? |
| 09:02.22 | MoonWolf | motorolla |
| 09:02.36 | Nickenyfiken | Ah :-P |
| 09:03.21 | MoonWolf | soo |
| 09:03.31 | MoonWolf | eggs, hamburgers or fish on bread |
| 09:03.36 | MoonWolf | i have two pick one.... |
| 09:03.51 | cladhaire | eggs |
| 09:03.51 | Codayus | What kind of fish? |
| 09:03.52 | Nickenyfiken | can't you have fishburger? |
| 09:04.05 | MoonWolf | because we don' t have those in the fridge |
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| 09:04.14 | cladhaire | eggs |
| 09:04.15 | MoonWolf | Codayus, nonespecific white fish |
| 09:04.31 | Codayus | I'd recommend eggs, in that case. :-) |
| 09:04.39 | MoonWolf | eggs it is. |
| 09:04.40 | cladhaire | it's what...11 there MoonWolf ? |
| 09:04.41 | Codayus | <-- fish snob. :-( |
| 09:05.11 | MoonWolf | yes, but. I have to get on a bus for 20 minutes wait 10 minutes for a 20 minute train. |
| 09:05.14 | MoonWolf | and then class starts. |
| 09:05.28 | Nickenyfiken | You should not eat fish. Except those that is "farmed". |
| 09:05.30 | MoonWolf | and that all happens in about 20 more minutes. |
| 09:05.36 | MoonWolf | Nickenyfiken, MINED |
| 09:05.43 | Nickenyfiken | rofl |
| 09:05.43 | cladhaire | Nickenyfiken: farmed fish is vile |
| 09:05.46 | Ellipsis | o.O |
| 09:05.58 | Nickenyfiken | Fishing is vile. |
| 09:06.03 | kandarz | wild alaskan salmon imo |
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| 09:06.11 | MoonWolf | wb |
| 09:06.22 | *** mode/#wowace [+v Tekkub] by ChanServ |
| 09:06.31 | MoonWolf | Also, I was kinda sad when you wern' t here anymore and i'm happy your back tekk. |
| 09:06.53 | MoonWolf | I just wanted to say that. |
| 09:07.11 | Nickenyfiken | heh |
| 09:07.29 | Tekkub | :P |
| 09:07.38 | Tekkub | notclad, did you go harass him for me yet |
| 09:07.39 | Tekkub | ? |
| 09:08.39 | Tekkub | and what's the new toc #, 20200? |
| 09:08.45 | Ellipsis | yup |
| 09:08.45 | kandarz | yes |
| 09:08.52 | MoonWolf | indeed |
| 09:08.54 | MoonWolf | logical tocs |
| 09:09.03 | MoonWolf | who would have guessed 3 years ago. |
| 09:09.13 | Nickenyfiken | Yes cus WoW is currently at version 20.2 |
| 09:09.34 | cladhaire | Tekkub: he's back, why do you hate him? |
| 09:10.13 | Tekkub | I need a reason, and I wanted you to give him crap while he was in the shower |
| 09:10.17 | Tekkub | put the bitch on |
| 09:10.47 | cladhaire | I'm using his PC to help me decide between a blackberry and a snazzy samsung phone |
| 09:10.57 | ZealotOnAStick | which samsung? |
| 09:11.02 | cladhaire | the U700 |
| 09:11.02 | Codayus | HTC Advantage x7501 |
| 09:11.03 | Tekkub | screw phones |
| 09:11.05 | Codayus | = win |
| 09:11.23 | cladhaire | Codayus: I'm stuck with phones vodafone will give me for free |
| 09:11.38 | kandarz | tekk has a rotary dial phone that he rents from AT&T for $4 a month |
| 09:11.52 | Tekkub | tek doesn't own a phone |
| 09:12.07 | kandarz | not even a wired phone? |
| 09:12.27 | Tekkub | hubby has a VoIP phone, but I don't use it |
| 09:12.55 | ZealotOnAStick | Oooh. Sexy looking phone. |
| 09:13.26 | Ellipsis | phones are overrated |
| 09:13.34 | Ellipsis | all they do is make people call you and interrupt your raiding |
| 09:13.44 | ZealotOnAStick | However, seems to be getting dinged on some of the technical stuff. |
| 09:13.45 | Tekkub | bah, he better come back as his real self so I can give him shit about his tiny american shower |
| 09:13.52 | Tekkub | sss.... so small |
| 09:13.55 | ZealotOnAStick | That's what phones with Call Screening are for. |
| 09:14.12 | ZealotOnAStick | Apparently, Tiny Brit shower now. |
| 09:14.18 | Nickenyfiken | Ellipsis: you have your phone on while raiding? :-P |
| 09:14.48 | Ellipsis | I don't have a phone |
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| 09:15.13 | MoonWolf | hmm, eggs on bread and BACON |
| 09:15.19 | Ellipsis | my boyfriend has a cell phone but we have no landline or anything |
| 09:15.58 | Health | perhaps because you have no friends |
| 09:16.08 | cryogen | phones are overrated |
| 09:16.19 | MoonWolf | who needs phones |
| 09:16.22 | MoonWolf | when you have skype |
| 09:16.34 | Ellipsis | phones are for people with lives and friends and stupid stuff like that |
| 09:16.56 | orionshock | oh wow, now that's a dirty hack, re: "FubarAce" |
| 09:17.07 | Arcaia | ? |
| 09:17.12 | Arcaia | whats that? |
| 09:17.17 | Bibi | who needs people to call, when you've got WoW |
| 09:17.19 | MoonWolf | let me guess |
| 09:17.31 | MoonWolf | someone wasn' t happy with rock and converted fubar to ace again ? |
| 09:17.47 | cryogen | pretty much |
| 09:17.49 | Codayus | .... |
| 09:17.49 | Ellipsis | yeap |
| 09:17.55 | Codayus | As a joke, right? |
| 09:18.07 | Arcaia | I think that should get yanked out of the downloadable list. |
| 09:18.08 | MoonWolf | I should probably go and hide from the incomming drama again |
| 09:18.09 | Ellipsis | because Ace addons (FuBar plugins) shouldn't "depend" on Rock addons (FuBar itself) |
| 09:18.09 | Codayus | Some sort of humerously ironic attempt to comment on the inherent umm...whatever? |
| 09:18.38 | cryogen | or someones right to do whatever they want :) |
| 09:18.45 | CIA-22 | 03nevcairiel * r50037 10BigBrother/ (4 files): |
| 09:18.45 | CIA-22 | BigBrother: |
| 09:18.45 | CIA-22 | - removed old flasks that have been changed with 2.2 |
| 09:18.47 | cryogen | depending on how you look at it and how much drama you want to get invovled in |
| 09:18.54 | Codayus | Yeah, but if they did it because they thought it was a good idea... |
| 09:18.56 | MoonWolf | none |
| 09:19.06 | MoonWolf | i get enough drama from wowradio alone |
| 09:19.10 | MoonWolf | let me tell you |
| 09:19.17 | MoonWolf | female' s is asking for trouble |
| 09:19.23 | Ellipsis | oi |
| 09:19.47 | MoonWolf | now i'm straight but every time some shit happens i'm thinking, maybe i should be gay, or asexual |
| 09:19.51 | ZealotOnAStick | ckknight already expressed his displeasure about it earlier today. |
| 09:19.55 | MoonWolf | sigh, woman. |
| 09:20.00 | Bibi | goats are the way to go |
| 09:20.01 | MoonWolf | women* |
| 09:20.05 | ZealotOnAStick | Though I only caught the vestiges of the convo, didn't bother to follow it all. |
| 09:20.10 | Fisker-- | oh hi Bibi |
| 09:20.14 | Ellipsis | hey, we don't cause *all* edrama, MoonWolf |
| 09:20.17 | Ellipsis | be fair now |
| 09:20.17 | Bibi | oh hi hwguylamer |
| 09:20.28 | MoonWolf | no, only the edrama that effects wowradio |
| 09:20.28 | ZealotOnAStick | I presume if his ire didn't get it yanked, it probably won't. |
| 09:20.30 | Ellipsis | you guys do enough on your own with your male egos |
| 09:20.33 | buu | HA HA DRAMA |
| 09:20.34 | Fisker-- | fu Bibi |
| 09:20.42 | Fisker-- | why would you do such a thing? |
| 09:20.50 | Bibi | what ? playing hwguy ? |
| 09:20.52 | Bibi | I don't know |
| 09:20.55 | Bibi | the guy must be stupid. |
| 09:21.09 | Bibi | did you play since today's patch btw Fisker- ? |
| 09:21.26 | Bibi | you can see the classes of all players in spectator mode now |
| 09:21.27 | Fisker-- | nope |
| 09:21.30 | Fisker-- | k |
| 09:21.34 | Bibi | it's great ! |
| 09:21.44 | Fisker-- | i has work |
| 09:21.46 | CIA-22 | 03ennuilg * r50038 10scorchio/ (changelog.txt core.lua locales/localisation.lua scorchio.toc): |
| 09:21.46 | CIA-22 | scorchio: |
| 09:21.46 | CIA-22 | - Added options to independently turn off data sync for local events and AddOn messages. |
| 09:21.46 | CIA-22 | - Added option to reset anchor to center of screen |
| 09:21.46 | CIA-22 | - Tidied and fixed anchor handling code |
| 09:21.49 | Bibi | i've got work too |
| 09:21.56 | Bibi | i've got a website ! |
| 09:21.56 | Arcaia | spectator mode? |
| 09:22.01 | Fisker-- | i no has tiem |
| 09:22.03 | Bibi | Arcaia : TF2 ! |
| 09:22.06 | Arcaia | ahh |
| 09:22.07 | Arcaia | k |
| 09:22.10 | Bibi | boom ! boom ! knife ! shlack shlack ! |
| 09:22.14 | Bibi | fapfapfapfapfap. |
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| 09:22.25 | baer_ | moin |
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| 09:23.14 | naig | hello, i just finished first functional draft version of an Ace2 updater written in Python |
| 09:24.11 | baer_ | naig: sound pretty interesting. did you try it with linux/*nix ? |
| 09:24.15 | naig | macaceupdater seems to be bit beta still, so decided to do my own |
| 09:24.21 | naig | i have mac here |
| 09:24.30 | Tekkub | hippies... |
| 09:24.35 | naig | haha |
| 09:25.11 | naig | atm it's only commandline tool, but i've tried to design it with possible ui extension in mind |
| 09:25.28 | naig | did first updates last night with it and nothing broke :) |
| 09:26.13 | Ellipsis | are there any updaters designed to sync multiple different Interface folders (for devs or compilation creators or what-have-you) |
| 09:26.14 | baer_ | (-: |
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| 09:28.17 | CIA-22 | 03cronan * r50039 10XLoot/XLoot.toc: XLoot: TOC to 20200 |
| 09:28.40 | naig | and one another question: IncomingHealsLib package seems to be strangely created |
| 09:28.57 | CIA-22 | tekkub-wow: 03tekkub * r549 10/trunk/ (81 files in 55 dirs): TOC and embed updates across the board |
| 09:29.08 | orionshock | i think the main beef with having "FubarAce" is the hypocrisy behind it. |
| 09:29.17 | naig | it doesn't create libs/ -subdirectory but "libs\AceComm-2.0", for example |
| 09:29.22 | Tekkub | FuBace |
| 09:29.24 | Tekkub | Face |
| 09:29.29 | Ellipsis | o.O |
| 09:29.33 | cryogen | Farce |
| 09:29.36 | Ellipsis | so I'm gonna take that as a no to my updaters question |
| 09:29.41 | cryogen | FuArse |
| 09:29.48 | Tekkub | I'd use Face (until I got everything lego'd |
| 09:29.54 | Ellipsis | and in that case, put out a general plea for someone to write/modify one |
| 09:30.51 | orionshock | Ellipsis: WUU handles PTR addons :D |
| 09:31.14 | Ellipsis | not quite what I meant, but maybe it can be adapted to work o.O |
| 09:31.40 | naig | Ellipsis: meaning you have three different Interface-dirs which you switch when developing? |
| 09:31.47 | Ellipsis | yeah, pretty much |
| 09:31.48 | naig | and want to get them all up to date at once? |
| 09:31.51 | Ellipsis | yup |
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| 09:31.59 | Ellipsis | would be nice to do that without redownloading updates 3 times |
| 09:32.10 | naig | yep |
| 09:32.21 | naig | my updater already caches the parsed latest.xml on disk |
| 09:32.31 | naig | could work with saving downloads as well |
| 09:32.50 | naig | then it would be quite optimum for that kind of setup |
| 09:33.26 | Ellipsis | ideally an updater could just present all the directories I specify and give me a choice of which ones I want to update at any given time |
| 09:33.37 | Ellipsis | so I could check off two dirs, run an update, and be done with it |
| 09:33.42 | naig | true |
| 09:34.24 | *** part/#wowace naig (n=naig@lilja.asteriski.fi) |
| 09:34.31 | Ellipsis | right now I have Interface\Addons\, Interface\AddonsBackup\, Interface\AddonsDev\, Interface\MyAddons\ |
| 09:35.02 | Ellipsis | I run updates on any of the last three, and just delete Addons and replace it with whichever interface I want to be running at the time |
| 09:35.02 | Ellipsis | >_> |
| 09:35.23 | Ellipsis | don't mind my spacebar, it's possessed |
| 09:35.26 | Corgan | lol |
| 09:35.59 | MoonWitch | ha, I have \Addons\BackUP \Addons\CoreUI \Addons\* (the * being the one in use) |
| 09:36.38 | MoonWitch | oh and \addons\notes for those addons I am using/are setup but I am trying an addon with similar functions to see how it fares |
| 09:36.54 | Arcaia | haha |
| 09:37.00 | Arcaia | its damn nice to play a female character |
| 09:37.06 | Arcaia | random guys give you money and shiz |
| 09:37.08 | Arcaia | <-- guy |
| 09:37.11 | Ellipsis | pfft |
| 09:37.13 | Arcaia | its so hilarious |
| 09:37.17 | orionshock | horny bastard :P |
| 09:37.17 | Ellipsis | wait til voip gets you in trouble |
| 09:37.20 | Arcaia | they give you money |
| 09:37.22 | Arcaia | you're like |
| 09:37.24 | Arcaia | <- dude |
| 09:37.24 | MoonWitch | hehehe |
| 09:37.25 | Ellipsis | they do not! |
| 09:37.27 | Arcaia | and they /ignore you |
| 09:37.36 | Arcaia | on my server they do |
| 09:37.39 | MoonWitch | or were madly in love and /wrists |
| 09:37.41 | MoonWitch | :P |
| 09:37.47 | Health | Season 3 Arena Information |
| 09:37.47 | Health | Weapon Rating - 1850 |
| 09:37.47 | Ellipsis | in all my years of playing female MMO characters, I have never had a guy throw money at me for no apparent reason |
| 09:37.48 | Health | Shoulder Rating - 2000 |
| 09:37.49 | MoonWitch | yes I have an odd sense of humor there |
| 09:37.51 | Arcaia | mostly random encounters |
| 09:38.03 | Ellipsis | peopel are slightly more willing to group or go out of their way to help you |
| 09:38.15 | Ellipsis | but it's not as significant as a lot of people claim >_> |
| 09:38.21 | MoonWitch | my guildies have provided my main with shit for her to use/wear above lvl 65 |
| 09:38.25 | MoonWitch | she's lvl38 :P |
| 09:38.37 | ennuilg | As a female playing a female character, I certainly don't get gold randomly... If a guy finds out I'm female though, it gets a bit predicatable for a while... |
| 09:38.45 | Ellipsis | ^ |
| 09:38.56 | buu | ZOMG U R A FEMLE?z |
| 09:39.04 | Arcaia | Me and my fiancee play |
| 09:39.07 | Arcaia | she gets free enchants |
| 09:39.09 | Arcaia | free potions |
| 09:39.11 | Arcaia | free groups |
| 09:39.16 | Ellipsis | there are more females than males participating in this conversation |
| 09:39.18 | Arcaia | i get... the classic, l2p |
| 09:39.18 | buu | What, you pay for groups? |
| 09:39.19 | MoonWitch | I usually just warn them "don't try it, I am a lesbian" which is a bad lie, but it gets the issue sorted |
| 09:39.22 | Ellipsis | we are taking over the world :ph43r: |
| 09:39.22 | Gngsk | free willy? |
| 09:39.26 | Arcaia | free runs through things |
| 09:39.33 | Arcaia | = free groups |
| 09:39.48 | ennuilg | MoonWitch: I find that just makes them *more* interested most of the time! |
| 09:39.54 | Arcaia | wait ladies, i have a comic for you |
| 09:39.57 | Arcaia | let me find it |
| 09:39.57 | buu | Obviously we need to verify female characters via web cams before the character may be created. |
| 09:39.59 | MoonWitch | unless of course I actually meet a lesbian |
| 09:40.08 | MoonWitch | then I need to "IM STRAIGHT IM STRAIGHT" |
| 09:40.13 | ennuilg | lol |
| 09:40.18 | Ellipsis | if you tell a guy you're female, his first reaction is "BS" and his second reaction is "PICS!" |
| 09:40.21 | buu | MoonWitch: Just tell them you're a furrie |
| 09:40.29 | buu | Ellipsis: I find that incredibly sad =[ |
| 09:40.32 | Ellipsis | if you tell him you're a lesbian, his first reaction is "aww, shit" and his second reaction is "PICS!" |
| 09:40.33 | Arcaia | http://www.meghanohara.org/wordpress/2007/08/25/penis-envy/ |
| 09:40.35 | Arcaia | title is odd |
| 09:40.40 | Arcaia | but its a female artist |
| 09:40.46 | Arcaia | so trust me, worth the read |
| 09:40.47 | ennuilg | Ellipsis: ^^ Definitely... I hate people expecting me to prove my gender... wtf! |
| 09:41.36 | Ellipsis | Arcaia, that is made of awesome and win |
| 09:41.41 | Arcaia | told ya! |
| 09:41.44 | MoonWitch | lol "He only makes love to me while auctioneer scans" |
| 09:41.46 | buu | ennuilg: I suppose the idea there is that they feel that females should be treated differently, perhaps more politely/etc, but before they do that they want.. proof? |
| 09:41.46 | ZealotOnAStick | Hammer of Grammar is great. |
| 09:41.59 | Arcaia | <--- keen on the WoW webcomics |
| 09:42.08 | ZealotOnAStick | When someone linked that comic to me the first time, I immediately started at the first and read them all. |
| 09:42.28 | MoonWitch | http://illwillpress.com not wow comics, but nice |
| 09:42.32 | Arcaia | yea, its so well done |
| 09:42.37 | Arcaia | its sad there are not more |
| 09:42.50 | ennuilg | buu: I'll be treated the same as everyone else thanks, until I prove what an awesome player I am - then they can treat me more politely before I pwn their ass! |
| 09:42.58 | Arcaia | gucomics/darklegacy/maniacgrafitti/hammerofgramar/threepanelsoul |
| 09:43.01 | Arcaia | all my reads. |
| 09:43.46 | buu | ennuilg: I'm hardly defending their behaviour, merely attempting to explain it. |
| 09:44.04 | ennuilg | Yup. And sorry, I wasn't having a go at you, but them in general. |
| 09:44.11 | buu | Yeah. |
| 09:44.18 | buu | I find it difficult to imagine such things. |
| 09:44.41 | MoonWitch | no offense guys, but all the men in my life suck, unless I meet them online which is pretty damn frustrating |
| 09:44.48 | Ellipsis | ^ |
| 09:45.01 | MoonWitch | but of course with me not going out, but having my social life on the net, that is to be expected right? |
| 09:45.07 | cryogen | and all the girls i meet online are asshats |
| 09:45.08 | Cheads | =) |
| 09:45.10 | Ellipsis | but hey, meeting them online works |
| 09:45.10 | cryogen | generalisations ftw |
| 09:45.13 | ennuilg | Might have something to do with it... ;-) |
| 09:45.17 | Ellipsis | that's where I found mine XD |
| 09:45.44 | buu | On a similar note, the other day I was in an airport, I think just chatting with some random dude about airport shit, and then I notice him staring in some direction.. I break off and follow his line of sight and see some attractive girl. He turns to me and says something like "Dude she's really hot, I'd fuck her" |
| 09:45.54 | cryogen | every time ive come across a female in wow, it's always caused no ends of trouble and drama |
| 09:45.58 | buu | I don't understand people =[ |
| 09:46.03 | Ellipsis | ugh @ buu's story |
| 09:46.23 | Ellipsis | do you know how many times I'm hanging out with a girl and she starts staring at some guy and says "he's really hot, I'd fuck him"? |
| 09:46.29 | Ellipsis | ...yeah, never. |
| 09:46.33 | cryogen | bullshit |
| 09:46.35 | Arcaia | Ladies - I'm engaged. If that doesn't speak for itself, then you've had a horrid life with relationships, or you're upbringing was as traditional as mine ;P |
| 09:46.47 | cryogen | dont play the "girls never do that" card |
| 09:46.55 | Arcaia | actually Ellipsis: college environments are like that |
| 09:47.00 | Arcaia | and thats a fact |
| 09:47.01 | buu | I mean, did he think he cared? Was he perhaps trying to enrich my life with more knowledge? Perhaps he thought I didn't notice and would be over joyed to see such a thing? Maybe he was just attempting to forge a bond via the sharing of a common experience? |
| 09:47.03 | Ellipsis | cryogen, I can't be sure, but I've never seen it |
| 09:47.04 | cryogen | there are similar standards of both women and men |
| 09:47.07 | Ellipsis | and I did go to college |
| 09:47.16 | Arcaia | I have a lot of female friends that have tried to get in my pants, but I'm engaged. |
| 09:47.21 | QuantumDelta | cryogen - If you consider how many men you've probably met that are asshats |
| 09:47.24 | Arcaia | and that's not a lie ;P |
| 09:47.30 | QuantumDelta | and compare it to the amount of women you've met that are asshats |
| 09:47.39 | cryogen | QuantumDelta: online? its hardly a fair comparison |
| 09:47.40 | QuantumDelta | proportionately, they're probably exactly the same. |
| 09:47.53 | QuantumDelta | what? |
| 09:48.03 | QuantumDelta | 95+% of the online community in general = asshats |
| 09:48.06 | QuantumDelta | male or female |
| 09:48.06 | QuantumDelta | :P |
| 09:48.07 | cryogen | :) |
| 09:48.14 | Ellipsis | Arcaia, I'm not saying women can't be attracted to or chase after men |
| 09:48.22 | cryogen | it's a different category of asshatism though |
| 09:48.23 | Ellipsis | just that they don't go about it in such crude ways (generally) |
| 09:48.24 | ennuilg | Only 95%? Wow, you've been lucky... |
| 09:48.39 | Arcaia | I was gonna say 98% |
| 09:48.54 | QuantumDelta | erm |
| 09:48.57 | cryogen | the only females ive ever met online are either a) horny and love male attention b) attention seeking in general, or c) drama queens |
| 09:49.09 | Arcaia | agreed cryogen |
| 09:49.15 | Recluse | guys = sex and elitists girls = drama and mindfncks |
| 09:49.20 | Cheads | agreed cryogen (99% atleast) |
| 09:49.21 | Arcaia | or the rare like .5% that are decent. |
| 09:49.25 | ennuilg | No cryogen - the only females who've come up to you and said "I'm a girl! I'm a girl!" are like that. |
| 09:49.27 | buu | cryogen: So, er, are you applying that generalization to the people in this cahnnel? |
| 09:49.34 | cryogen | buu: no |
| 09:49.37 | cryogen | buu: :) |
| 09:49.38 | ennuilg | You've met lots of others who you haven't even known were girls. |
| 09:49.42 | buu | cryogen: Not to mention your complete lack of knowledge as to actual gender. |
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| 09:49.58 | buu | Stereotypes are such insidious beasts =[ |
| 09:50.01 | cryogen | buu/ennulig: thats half the point, yes |
| 09:50.07 | Recluse | we're no inside WoW, even if we are WoW players, the mindset of players "in game" is completely different |
| 09:50.07 | cryogen | if i dont know, im happy and can talk to someone |
| 09:50.12 | cryogen | if i do know, its probably for a bad reason |
| 09:50.31 | Codayus | Lots of females in my guild. A small minority have been the drama queen/flirting types. They don't tend to last... |
| 09:50.33 | cryogen | but eventually you notice |
| 09:50.42 | Tem | Ellipsis, For the record, I have seen a girl say "he's hot. I'd fuck him." |
| 09:50.44 | cryogen | and certain traits do expose themselves |
| 09:50.49 | Ellipsis | not all flirtacious girls are drama queens or attention whores |
| 09:50.53 | Ellipsis | some of us just like to flirt |
| 09:50.54 | Codayus | Most are just normal player. |
| 09:51.07 | buu | I was actually in a guild that was maybe 20% female.. worked flawlessly |
| 09:51.14 | Tem | Immediately afterwards, she said the same thing about a girl |
| 09:51.14 | cryogen | anyway my whole point of bringing it up was to point out how shit generalisations are :) |
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| 09:51.20 | buu | They were all healers for some reason =/ |
| 09:51.25 | Tem | she.... different |
| 09:51.31 | Tem | s/she/she's/ |
| 09:51.34 | cryogen | girls only ever play healers or mages |
| 09:51.41 | QuantumDelta | both my american and my european guilds have significantly overrepresented female numbers! |
| 09:51.41 | buu | HAha |
| 09:51.41 | Recluse | i just hate when people trip on me for being upfront about playing fem alliance and male horde |
| 09:51.43 | ennuilg | <- mage. Guilty. |
| 09:51.48 | Tem | you know what's funny... |
| 09:51.52 | buu | cryogen: I saw a hunter once. There's a bunch of warlocks also. |
| 09:52.02 | Tem | I know a few female players, they ALL play a healer or a mage |
| 09:52.04 | cryogen | oh yes, the cute cat pet hunter types |
| 09:52.07 | Tem | with one exception |
| 09:52.09 | Ellipsis | I'm a warlock, take that! |
| 09:52.09 | QuantumDelta | hmm |
| 09:52.12 | Tem | she plays a hunter |
| 09:52.14 | cryogen | and warlocks are the new mage, apparently |
| 09:52.17 | buu | There was a slashdot article the other day on a subject similar |
| 09:52.18 | Ellipsis | =[ |
| 09:52.19 | SunTsu | .o0( My guild master is female and the main tank ) |
| 09:52.22 | QuantumDelta | warlocks/druids |
| 09:52.24 | Codayus | One of our MTs is female.. |
| 09:52.25 | Tem | cryogen, you're about a year late on that |
| 09:52.30 | buu | It was asking about which gender people choose for their avatars |
| 09:52.32 | cryogen | well "new" |
| 09:52.33 | Ellipsis | I played a druid too, but only squishy-mode |
| 09:52.35 | Tem | but yes, warlocks are the new mages |
| 09:52.46 | buu | And a ridiculous number of men said "I choose a female avatar so I can stare at a female ass all the time I'm playing" |
| 09:52.46 | Ellipsis | I fit stereotypes =[ |
| 09:53.01 | QuantumDelta | though I've known several not of those two classes |
| 09:53.03 | Arcaia | buu: that's why my character is female |
| 09:53.08 | cryogen | buu: what, there's another reason? |
| 09:53.10 | Ellipsis | buu - have you ever checked out the Daedalus project? |
| 09:53.12 | QuantumDelta | on both my servers they're far and away the most popular with the ladies |
| 09:53.13 | Arcaia | buu: because human male characters look shitty. |
| 09:53.25 | buu | Arcaia: Something about that always struck me as profoundly wrong. |
| 09:53.30 | Recluse | arcaia: indeed |
| 09:53.33 | QuantumDelta | but you can't draw demographics from one or two servers :< |
| 09:53.40 | Ellipsis | http://www.nickyee.com/daedalus/ |
| 09:53.49 | buu | Arcaia: There's a huge difference between thinking one model looks better, perhaps based on items, and .. staring at their ass. |
| 09:54.05 | Arcaia | it was partially both |
| 09:54.06 | Recluse | i do not like any of the alliance male models period. they suck big time |
| 09:54.06 | cryogen | if im gonna look at a character 8 hours a day, id rather it wasnt a big fat hairy orc male |
| 09:54.09 | Arcaia | male ass looks gay. |
| 09:54.10 | Grum | i find it rather stupid that males play female chars |
| 09:54.15 | Arcaia | female ass.. tolerable, |
| 09:54.18 | buu | See, I don't understand this at all. |
| 09:54.20 | cryogen | Grum: i find you rather stupid! |
| 09:54.25 | Grum | cryogen: no addon for you! |
| 09:54.29 | cryogen | Grum: good! |
| 09:54.32 | Grum | YOU NO TAKE ADDON! |
| 09:54.33 | Arcaia | again, going with the I'm engaged and have to prove nothing stance on this ;P |
| 09:54.34 | buu | Although I've recently realized that I find all of the alliance races to look really lame. |
| 09:54.35 | Ellipsis | http://www.nickyee.com/daedalus/archives/001369.php specifically |
| 09:54.48 | ennuilg | You shouldn't be looking at your characters ass all the time - you should be looking at the mobs trying to kill you! |
| 09:54.54 | Arcaia | she agrees with me, human male characters look retarded, and she'd rather stare at a female ass for 70 levels too. |
| 09:54.56 | cryogen | i dont look at its ass |
| 09:55.04 | cryogen | but i do get pissed off having to stare at ugly stuff |
| 09:55.04 | buu | ennuilg: Yeah no shit. I can't even remember the last time I Actually looked at my character. |
| 09:55.08 | Arcaia | my ui has my hp/power at my feet. |
| 09:55.18 | Arcaia | i watch my health/mob health more than i watch the mob. |
| 09:55.21 | buu | cryogen: I just feel sorry for the alliance players really.. they have to play with gnomes andnelfs |
| 09:55.22 | cryogen | blood elf males. case in point. |
| 09:55.38 | cryogen | seriously, who the hell would make a blood elf male? |
| 09:55.51 | Grum | gnomes ftw! |
| 09:55.51 | cryogen | they are ugly, their cast animations are retarded |
| 09:55.54 | Arcaia | i have a belf male. |
| 09:55.55 | cryogen | and their voice emotes.. man |
| 09:55.55 | Grum | nothing more cool than a gnome ^^ |
| 09:55.57 | Ellipsis | I had a friend who rolled a belf |
| 09:56.00 | Arcaia | they are proportionately sound |
| 09:56.00 | CIA-22 | tekkub-wow: 03tekkub * r550 10/trunk/ (12 files in 9 dirs): Upgrading OH calls to use LibStub |
| 09:56.01 | Ellipsis | he was gay (true story) |
| 09:56.03 | buu | Grum: I *loathe* gnomes =[ |
| 09:56.03 | Arcaia | and stand in contraposte |
| 09:56.16 | Neebler | I'm a gnome!! |
| 09:56.18 | Recluse | very few mobs do i give the time of day to watch. it's all about the UFs, castbars, dotimers, and cooldowns |
| 09:56.18 | Grum | seriously nothing more fun than a gnome tanking all bosses ^^ |
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| 09:56.24 | Lyc | hello there |
| 09:56.24 | buu | Grum: They're like a massive flashing sign saying "WOW is incredibly unrealistic" |
| 09:56.36 | neenee | I wish they had kept the bloodelf and draenei emotes in though |
| 09:56.36 | Ellipsis | well...except the massive part |
| 09:56.39 | Lyc | Is there any addon from ace2 like "atlas loot" ? |
| 09:57.04 | Grum | yes .. because cows tanking is realistic O.o |
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| 09:57.04 | QuantumDelta | heh |
| 09:57.04 | buu | I was watching a tauren tanking some kind of raid trash ogre earlier |
| 09:57.04 | buu | And he looked damn good |
| 09:57.04 | cryogen | Lyc: "atlas loot"? :) |
| 09:57.04 | QuantumDelta | since whenever i roll a char I roll a paladin |
| 09:57.04 | Arcaia | belf are the best designed model/3d wise race in the game |
| 09:57.04 | Grum | a gnome doing that is more fun!! :D |
| 09:57.04 | QuantumDelta | if it's alliance it's human male |
| 09:57.04 | buu | The ogre was larger than him, but the tauren looked like he could reasonably take some hits |
| 09:57.10 | QuantumDelta | but if it's horde it HAS to be a female belf |
| 09:57.13 | buu | But then you look at some shit fucking 2ft gnome with a mace the size of my pinky |
| 09:57.15 | Recluse | isn't atlas ace'd? |
| 09:57.15 | Arcaia | armor/gear fits them right, they're bodies are decent looking |
| 09:57.18 | cryogen | the only male characters i will play are tauren and orc |
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| 09:57.19 | Grum | a gnome can stand between magtheridons toenails^^ |
| 09:57.20 | cryogen | Recluse: yup |
| 09:57.22 | buu | And all you can think is "Holy shit this game is stupid" |
| 09:57.24 | QuantumDelta | there's no way I could play one of those prancing fairies |
| 09:57.24 | QuantumDelta | -.- |
| 09:57.26 | cryogen | oh and dwarf |
| 09:57.42 | cryogen | taurens and orcs just *need* to be male |
| 09:57.51 | buu | Yeah |
| 09:57.55 | Arcaia | i guess it comes down to who is trying to prove their maleness and who is playing it because its a game. |
| 09:57.55 | buu | What's up with the female trolls? |
| 09:57.59 | Lyc | cryogen: Ist a bib where are all items listet, which drop in certain instances |
| 09:58.04 | Arcaia | female tauren have the coolest dance |
| 09:58.15 | cryogen | Lyc: yeah, and it's also ace2 :) |
| 09:58.19 | buu | Male trolls look like .. trolls.. or at least some sort of inhuman beast |
| 09:58.20 | neenee | I like the female trolls. |
| 09:58.25 | buu | Female trolls look like blue humans |
| 09:58.27 | cryogen | some female trolls are ok |
| 09:58.28 | neenee | Though they're a bit too much human-like. |
| 09:58.28 | Arcaia | female trolls are nice. |
| 09:58.30 | buu | With big feet. |
| 09:58.32 | cryogen | but they are mostly disturbing |
| 09:58.33 | neenee | I like their bunny-like feet though |
| 09:58.37 | Grum | some people like female dorfs |
| 09:58.37 | Arcaia | depends on which face they choose. |
| 09:58.43 | cryogen | i just dont play trolls as a general rule |
| 09:58.46 | ZealotOnAStick | I play my UD lock as female because the male casting anims bite. |
| 09:58.47 | neenee | I think trolls look like big blue lemmings |
| 09:58.49 | cryogen | so i excluded them from the male/female thing :p |
| 09:58.59 | Recluse | alpha troll females were scary imho |
| 09:59.04 | cryogen | ZealotOnAStick: a friend of mine rerolled undead male FOR the casting animations |
| 09:59.12 | cryogen | ZealotOnAStick: odd fellow, i tell you |
| 09:59.15 | Grum | lol |
| 09:59.17 | buu | cryogen: I play an undead male.. all I want is a decent /dance |
| 09:59.19 | Ellipsis | oh hay you guys can't talk about anims |
| 09:59.24 | Ellipsis | have you SEEN the human female dance? |
| 09:59.29 | Grum | hot! |
| 09:59.30 | QuantumDelta | lol |
| 09:59.31 | cryogen | buu: undead male /train is nice |
| 09:59.32 | Recluse | lol |
| 09:59.33 | Ellipsis | WE DO THE FREAKING MACARENA |
| 09:59.38 | buu | cryogen: chugachugachuga |
| 09:59.38 | Grum | its hawt! |
| 09:59.46 | neenee | Have you seen the human jumps, both male and female. Lacks a lot of animation |
| 09:59.48 | QuantumDelta | Ellipsis |
| 09:59.53 | QuantumDelta | You should reroll Paladin tbh :P |
| 09:59.55 | cryogen | when i first started wow, believe it or not, /train was the key factor in decided race |
| 09:59.57 | Ellipsis | no wai |
| 09:59.59 | Grum | gnomes jump cute ^^ |
| 10:00.01 | cryogen | deciding |
| 10:00.03 | Ellipsis | I like it when things I'm killing actually die |
| 10:00.05 | QuantumDelta | FHP - Hottest class/race/sex makeup, ever. |
| 10:00.07 | neenee | cryogen, many races don't even have the full animation :| |
| 10:00.08 | ZealotOnAStick | Ellipsis: what the hell do you call the UD female "dance?" |
| 10:00.21 | Arcaia | weird glitch in AB... when you die, you dont go to res person |
| 10:00.21 | buu | I'm not sure I've ever seen an UD female dance |
| 10:00.24 | buu | Now that you mention it. |
| 10:00.25 | Ellipsis | ZealotOnAStick: MACARENA?!?!!?! |
| 10:00.36 | QuantumDelta | UD Female Ellipsis |
| 10:00.37 | Arcaia | has happened 5 times now |
| 10:00.37 | QuantumDelta | :P |
| 10:00.37 | neenee | buu, you might have if you've visited Winterspring |
| 10:00.45 | buu | neenee: Wwwwwwwhich.. I haven't. |
| 10:00.46 | ZealotOnAStick | Worst Dance, IMO. |
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| 10:00.52 | neenee | buu, ah. |
| 10:00.56 | Ellipsis | no other character has a worse dance than human females |
| 10:00.58 | Ellipsis | it just doesn't happen |
| 10:00.59 | Grum | Ellipsis: macarena is coool :D |
| 10:01.00 | buu | The UD Male dance isn't even a dance! |
| 10:01.07 | Ellipsis | but it's still hardcore buu |
| 10:01.10 | cryogen | human female dance is cool :) |
| 10:01.11 | buu | Pah. |
| 10:01.12 | Arcaia | fhp? |
| 10:01.13 | QuantumDelta | UD Male is HEAD BANGINGS |
| 10:01.18 | Ellipsis | female human pally |
| 10:01.20 | buu | Head banging IS NOT DANCE. |
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| 10:01.25 | ZealotOnAStick | get stoned enough at a metal concert and you won't care. |
| 10:01.26 | neenee | It's a fit |
| 10:01.26 | buu | (Compressor does not dance) |
| 10:01.27 | QuantumDelta | FHP FTW :P! |
| 10:01.28 | Arcaia | !c us Shattered Hand Sakakii |
| 10:01.28 | ThraeBot | Arcaia: Sakakii is not the character you are looking for! |
| 10:01.34 | buu | ZealotOnAStick: Oh now that's a reasonable argument. |
| 10:01.36 | Arcaia | my gf is a pally ;P |
| 10:01.37 | Arcaia | !c us Shattered Hand Sakakii |
| 10:01.37 | ThraeBot | Arcaia: I just said that 9s ago. |
| 10:01.49 | Ellipsis | fail't |
| 10:01.50 | Arcaia | FUCK YOU ThraeBot |
| 10:01.51 | Arcaia | !c us Shattered Hand Sakakii |
| 10:01.52 | ThraeBot | Arcaia: I just said that 24s ago. |
| 10:01.55 | Arcaia | DAMN YOU! |
| 10:01.57 | cryogen | ~fail Arcaia |
| 10:01.58 | purl | Arcaia: Fail. |
| 10:01.59 | QuantumDelta | lol |
| 10:02.08 | Arcaia | ahh well |
| 10:02.12 | Grum | ThraeBot > Arcaia |
| 10:02.13 | Ellipsis | Arcaia: wait wait, you're engaged *and* you have a gf? >_> |
| 10:02.20 | *** join/#wowace lolinternet (i=bitch2k@85-127-110-214.dynamic.xdsl-line.inode.at) |
| 10:02.23 | Grum | Ellipsis: you getting ideas? |
| 10:02.26 | Arcaia | !vs eu Magtheridon Awake us Shattered Hand Sakakii |
| 10:02.27 | cryogen | heh |
| 10:02.28 | ThraeBot | Arcaia: I failed on the second listed character. You half-fail. |
| 10:02.32 | Ellipsis | owned |
| 10:02.36 | *** join/#wowace nekoh (n=nekoh@pD9E00CB9.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 10:02.40 | QuantumDelta | LOL |
| 10:02.41 | Lyc | cryogen: pls take a look at your query :-) |
| 10:02.42 | orionshock | .. arguing about threat meeter's .. |
| 10:02.45 | Arcaia | thraebot hates me. |
| 10:02.49 | Ellipsis | looks like Arcaia forgot how to spell his girlfriend's character name |
| 10:02.56 | Grum | haha |
| 10:03.15 | cryogen | is it not taking issue with the server name having a space in it? |
| 10:03.18 | CIA-22 | tekkub-wow: 03tekkub * r551 10/trunk/tekDebug/tekDebug.lua: tekDebug - Fix calls made after the addon has Enabled |
| 10:03.19 | cryogen | Lyc: mmm? |
| 10:03.20 | Ellipsis | nah |
| 10:03.29 | Ellipsis | spaces work fine |
| 10:03.33 | Ellipsis | ThraeBot is smrt |
| 10:03.47 | Grum | took him eons to fix it though |
| 10:03.58 | m4rku5 | Arcaia, i guess the US armory is down (the US forums are down too :P) |
| 10:04.09 | Ellipsis | oh yeah, it was maintenance |
| 10:04.16 | Arcaia | Ellipsis: no, she is my gf/fiancee |
| 10:04.24 | Arcaia | her family doesnt know yet |
| 10:04.26 | Ellipsis | she has multiple personalities? |
| 10:04.27 | Ellipsis | XD |
| 10:04.32 | ZealotOnAStick | Tekkub, linky to your googlecode or whatever? |
| 10:04.38 | cryogen | ! |
| 10:04.39 | Arcaia | so to them, im just her bf, but friends classmates everyone else knows |
| 10:04.39 | QuantumDelta | !c eu Outland Quantumdelta |
| 10:04.40 | Grum | Arcaia: lol that is one nasty soap :D |
| 10:04.41 | ThraeBot | QuantumDelta: Quantumdelta, Level 70 Human Paladin (0/20/41). 9367 HP; 5598 Mana; 89 mana regen; 8985 Armour; 1382 AP; 239.200 Melee DPS; 26.69% melee crit; 60 melee hit; 105 +spell dmg/heal; 9.17% dodge; 5.00% block; 127 resilience;[[ TBR: 867 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/yrjp9g ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/2tvtfn ][ Updated: Thu Sep 27 06:19:33 2007 EST ]] |
| 10:04.47 | QuantumDelta | wee :< |
| 10:04.59 | Grum | pvpaladong |
| 10:05.01 | Ellipsis | ZealotOnAStick: http://code.google.com/p/tekkub-wow/ |
| 10:05.02 | Tekkub | code.tekkub.net |
| 10:05.11 | QuantumDelta | yar but only whilst I'm not tanking ;\ |
| 10:05.14 | Lyc | ui |
| 10:05.16 | cryogen | !vs eu haomarush cryogen eu Outland Quantumdelta |
| 10:05.19 | QuantumDelta | 0/49/12 normally! |
| 10:05.20 | ThraeBot | cryogen: Cryogen vs Quantumdelta! Quantumdelta has +28 lvls on Cryogen (42 vs 70); A L42 rogue and a L70 paladin square off!; 7/26/0 vs 0/20/41; Quantumdelta wins by 716 TBRs! ***OWNED!*** |
| 10:05.29 | cryogen | harsh |
| 10:05.31 | QuantumDelta | 28 levels x_X; |
| 10:05.38 | Grum | lol .. l2level |
| 10:05.39 | Lyc | !c eu Der-abyssische-Rat Lycanth |
| 10:05.40 | ThraeBot | Lyc: Lycanth is not the character you are looking for! |
| 10:05.41 | cryogen | :D |
| 10:05.49 | Arcaia | ;P |
| 10:06.04 | QuantumDelta | lyc try without the hyphens. |
| 10:06.24 | m4rku5 | anyone wanna duell ? :P |
| 10:06.31 | QuantumDelta | what the heck is a TBRs btw? |
| 10:06.34 | Ellipsis | ~tbr |
| 10:06.35 | purl | well, tbr is ThraeBot Ratings -- a ThraeBot innovation. Working on a PvP-oriented weighted algorithm for what stats the Armoury currently has for your character, partially modified by build-type, it can be used to pit two characters in TBR vs TBR combat, and tries try to take into account which classes are fighting. (or "to be released") |
| 10:06.35 | Grum | !vs eu doomhammer neriah eu Outland Quantumdelta |
| 10:06.38 | ThraeBot | Grum: Neriah vs Quantumdelta! A L70 warrior and a L70 paladin square off!; 8/5/48 vs 0/20/41; Neriah wins by 689 TBRs! ***OWNED!*** |
| 10:06.41 | Lyc | !c eu DerabyssischeRat Lycanth |
| 10:06.42 | ThraeBot | Lyc: Lycanth is not the character you are looking for! |
| 10:06.43 | Arcaia | !>! |
| 10:06.49 | Lyc | hmpf *g* |
| 10:06.52 | Grum | pwned by a protwarrior! ;D |
| 10:06.56 | Grum | (and a gnome!) |
| 10:06.57 | Ellipsis | !c eu Der abyssische Rat Lycanth |
| 10:06.59 | ThraeBot | Ellipsis: Lycanth, Level 70 Human Warlock (25/36/0). 13040 HP; 7982 Mana; 110 mana regen; 67 spell crit; 65 spell hit; 669 +spell dmg/heal; 54 frost dmg (723); 105 shadow dmg (774); 4.36% dodge; 281 resilience;[[ TBR: 1631 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/2hy5bt ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/3casgs ][ Updated: Thu Sep 27 06:21:51 2007 EST ]] |
| 10:07.04 | Ellipsis | ^ |
| 10:07.07 | QuantumDelta | Grum if I was in my prot gear |
| 10:07.07 | Lyc | ah :D |
| 10:07.13 | QuantumDelta | :< |
| 10:07.15 | *** join/#wowace Demetrious (n=demetrio@unaffiliated/demetrious) |
| 10:07.16 | Ellipsis | what the heck is 25/36/0 x.x |
| 10:07.18 | CIA-22 | tekkub-wow: 03tekkub * r552 10/trunk/ (10 files in 7 dirs): I WIN AT string.gsub!!!! |
| 10:07.23 | cryogen | !vs eu haomarush galencia eu Outland Quantumdelta |
| 10:07.24 | ThraeBot | cryogen: Galencia vs Quantumdelta! A L70 priest and a L70 paladin square off!; 7/0/54 vs 0/20/41; Galencia wins by 25 TBRs! |
| 10:07.28 | cryogen | ha! in your face |
| 10:07.31 | Arcaia | ROFL I JUST BEAT A MS Warr |
| 10:07.33 | Arcaia | as a Rogue |
| 10:07.33 | Grum | Ellipsis: wonky |
| 10:07.33 | Recluse | close one |
| 10:07.37 | m4rku5 | !vs eu Blackmoore Amandria doomhammer neriah |
| 10:07.37 | Ellipsis | PvP spec? |
| 10:07.38 | QuantumDelta | !c eu doomhammer neriah |
| 10:07.38 | ThraeBot | QuantumDelta: Neriah, Level 70 Gnome Warrior (8/5/48). 15514 HP; 16494 Armour; 706 AP; 136.500 Melee DPS; 14.59% melee crit; 17 melee hit; 365 defense; 25.52% dodge; 30.91% block; 10 arcane resist (+10);[[ TBR: 1556 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/yocwsx ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/2qp4y7 ][ Updated: Thu Sep 27 06:21:29 2007 EST ]] |
| 10:07.48 | QuantumDelta | Hmm. |
| 10:07.49 | m4rku5 | (poor bot :D) |
| 10:08.03 | *** part/#wowace yoshimo (n=schfal@p5B0C3EBF.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 10:08.08 | QuantumDelta | Are those buffed stats? |
| 10:08.09 | QuantumDelta | o_O |
| 10:08.16 | Grum | not sure - might be |
| 10:08.24 | Grum | think not tbh |
| 10:08.26 | QuantumDelta | semi buffed |
| 10:08.29 | m4rku5 | !vs eu blackmoore amandria eu Outland Quantumdelta |
| 10:08.30 | ThraeBot | m4rku5: amandria vs Quantumdelta! It's a showdown! But wait! What's this?! Something random? Someone trains Kazzak on the duel, killing amandria instantly. |
| 10:08.36 | Grum | ah, fort, agi, major armor |
| 10:08.39 | cryogen | heh |
| 10:08.41 | QuantumDelta | LOL |
| 10:08.41 | m4rku5 | wtfx xD |
| 10:08.46 | Recluse | !c us Norgannon Recluse |
| 10:08.48 | ThraeBot | Recluse: Recluse, Level 70 Night Elf Rogue (5/10/46). 7854 HP; 1294 AP; 254.400 Melee DPS; 21.42% melee crit; 166 melee hit; 30.27% dodge; 10 nature resist (+10);[[ TBR: 1854 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/2x5vfc ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/2sflkb ][ Updated: Thu Sep 27 06:23:40 2007 EST ]] |
| 10:08.59 | m4rku5 | !c eu blackmoore amandria |
| 10:09.02 | ThraeBot | m4rku5: Amandria, Level 70 Human Priest (9/0/52). 7341 HP; 7875 Mana; 179 mana regen; 10 mp5; 113 spell crit; 77 spell hit; 921 +spell dmg/heal; 183 frost dmg (1104); 309 shadow dmg (1230); 4.98% dodge; 18 resilience;[[ TBR: 1904 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/2bm8tp ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/2wtzxg ][ Updated: Thu Sep 27 06:23:53 2007 EST ]] |
| 10:09.08 | QuantumDelta | My tanking gear is better than his grum ;\ |
| 10:09.11 | SunTsu | !vs eu nozdormu Rathragos eu nozdormu Yennie |
| 10:09.15 | ThraeBot | SunTsu: Rathragos vs Yennie! A L70 druid and a L70 warlock square off!; 0/47/14 vs 42/19/0; Yennie wins by 68 TBRs! |
| 10:09.15 | Grum | !c eu doomhammer xaros |
| 10:09.17 | ThraeBot | Grum: Xaros, Level 70 Human Priest (20/41/0). 6381 HP; 9855 Mana; 437 mana regen; 202 mp5; 84 +spell dmg; 1825 +heal; 5.58% dodge;[[ TBR: 712 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/yt3x4s ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/2vf4b2 ][ Updated: Thu Sep 27 06:24:09 2007 EST ]] |
| 10:09.27 | SunTsu | OK, getting closer ;) |
| 10:09.39 | Grum | oe i cant wait to 2.3 .. i want 1/3 spelldmg :D |
| 10:09.46 | Grum | free 600spelldmg .. Leo will be a pissssss |
| 10:09.55 | cryogen | thats coming in 2.3? |
| 10:09.55 | m4rku5 | !vs eu blackmoore amandria eu doomhammer neriah |
| 10:09.56 | ThraeBot | m4rku5: Amandria vs Neriah! A L70 priest and a L70 warrior square off!; 9/0/52 vs 8/5/48; Amandria wins by 381 TBRs! |
| 10:09.59 | cryogen | i thought that was expansion |
| 10:10.01 | Ellipsis | freaking shadowpriests *grumble* |
| 10:10.06 | m4rku5 | wheeee :P |
| 10:10.09 | cryogen | Ellipsis: hey! |
| 10:10.10 | Grum | hehe |
| 10:10.21 | Grum | !vs eu blackmoore amandria eu doomhammer xaros |
| 10:10.22 | ThraeBot | Grum: Amandria vs Xaros! Two 70 priests square off!; 9/0/52 vs 20/41/0; Amandria wins by 1192 TBRs! ***OWNED TO THE EXTREME!!*** |
| 10:10.26 | Grum | hahahahhahahaha |
| 10:10.28 | cryogen | lol |
| 10:10.30 | Grum | i got so pwned :D |
| 10:10.33 | m4rku5 | lol |
| 10:10.34 | m4rku5 | and thaty my PvE gear :o |
| 10:10.47 | m4rku5 | pretty crap gear anyway :/ we still didnt kill kael |
| 10:10.51 | Grum | i wish it would do tag-team :D |
| 10:11.07 | QuantumDelta | Grum |
| 10:11.07 | Lyc | sooo but.. i didnt get my question. Is there an addon from ace2, which shows you the itemlist of certain instances? |
| 10:11.13 | QuantumDelta | know much about pally tanking stats? :< |
| 10:11.15 | Grum | humz i actually have 202mp5 unbuffed O.o |
| 10:11.35 | Grum | oh .. not unbuffed .. yay for mooncloth restoration |
| 10:11.39 | cryogen | Amandria owns me, i own xaros |
| 10:11.41 | Ellipsis | bahaha |
| 10:11.42 | cryogen | muhaha |
| 10:11.46 | Ellipsis | tailoring buffs are imba |
| 10:11.53 | m4rku5 | heh |
| 10:11.59 | Grum | i'm easy to own, completely squishy priest |
| 10:12.03 | cryogen | Lyc: i answered you twice already, atlasloot *is* ace2 |
| 10:12.05 | Xinhuan | Lyc: Cartographer_Instance Loot is the closest thing to it |
| 10:12.06 | Grum | i'll remember to log out in my sta-gear next time ^^ |
| 10:12.25 | Xinhuan | AtlasLoot also is ace2 as well |
| 10:12.31 | CIA-22 | 03jerry * r50040 10Talented/core.lua: Talented: make sure the last selected template is compressed when logging out. |
| 10:12.33 | Xinhuan | and you won't find any other alternatives |
| 10:12.35 | Lyc | ouh |
| 10:12.38 | m4rku5 | Grum, next time i log out with my PvP gear we should make another duell |
| 10:12.43 | Grum | got 10061 hp raidbuffed in my stagear (with no pots/scrolls/whatever to get more+sta) |
| 10:12.53 | Lyc | sorry cryogen didnt get it |
| 10:12.56 | m4rku5 | Grum i have 11.3k selfbuffed (stam only) |
| 10:12.57 | cryogen | Lyc: :) |
| 10:12.57 | QuantumDelta | full buff |
| 10:13.00 | QuantumDelta | 20.5k hp |
| 10:13.02 | Ellipsis | I have 8k HP self-buffed |
| 10:13.03 | QuantumDelta | grum :D |
| 10:13.07 | Ellipsis | WTB gear |
| 10:13.09 | Fisker-- | http://forums.wow-europe.com/thread.html?topicId=1016281958&sid=1 |
| 10:13.10 | Fisker-- | ... |
| 10:13.10 | m4rku5 | lol :P |
| 10:13.13 | Grum | m4rku5: but i'm priest .. holy .. and healing ^^ |
| 10:13.15 | m4rku5 | Ellipsis, go play some arena |
| 10:13.22 | Grum | and i dont do pvp .. |
| 10:13.24 | Ellipsis | I don't PvP |
| 10:13.27 | Grum | <3 |
| 10:13.29 | m4rku5 | heh |
| 10:13.30 | Arcaia | just beat another epicc'd MS warrior |
| 10:14.39 | Arcaia | MS warriors aren't what they used to be... |
| 10:14.58 | Ellipsis | sigh.. |
| 10:15.05 | SunTsu | .o0( Deff? ) |
| 10:15.12 | Ellipsis | I want to login but I'm too lazy and afraid my addons will be broken >_> |
| 10:15.38 | m4rku5 | Ellipsis, i spend an hour yesterday to fix my addons ;) |
| 10:15.50 | m4rku5 | and finally got rid of some non-wowace addons ;) |
| 10:15.57 | Fisker-- | http://forums.wow-europe.com/thread.html?topicId=1016281958&sid=1 |
| 10:15.58 | Fisker-- | DO IT |
| 10:16.03 | Ellipsis | I spent about 5 mins getting things playable (i.e. downloading libs) and then hours trying to track down minor issues for various addons XD |
| 10:16.19 | Ellipsis | Fisker-, are you just a total forum troll? :P |
| 10:16.20 | m4rku5 | well i gotta get some stuff done in the city :P be back later - cya all |
| 10:16.33 | QuantumDelta | ehhhh |
| 10:16.38 | QuantumDelta | I just read what TBR's actually are |
| 10:16.58 | QuantumDelta | I'm fairly sure I can beat a prot warrior of my prot gear level (let alone lower) just by autoattacking |
| 10:17.07 | Arcaia | Fisker- : wtf is that about? |
| 10:17.08 | QuantumDelta | :<! |
| 10:17.23 | cryogen | i really hate forums in general |
| 10:17.24 | Fisker-- | it's not me Ellipsis |
| 10:17.33 | cryogen | too many stupid people post on them |
| 10:17.39 | Grum | Doing SSC with half-working addons is fun :D |
| 10:17.51 | Grum | 'omg i cant take a potion - my autobar is broken!' |
| 10:17.57 | Ellipsis | Fisker-, I know - but you paste forum links in here all day long XD |
| 10:18.01 | cryogen | heh |
| 10:18.02 | CIA-22 | tekkub-wow: 03tekkub * r553 10/trunk/Panda/ (4 files): Panda - Forgot OH embed, some cleanups. |
| 10:18.05 | Grum | 'Itemrack is broken - give me 10 minutes to switch to resistance gear please' |
| 10:18.26 | Grum | or people not getting 'mouseovers' on their backpack items :D |
| 10:18.27 | Arcaia | haha |
| 10:18.29 | cryogen | oh please, patch days are nothing like they used to be |
| 10:18.30 | Arcaia | i did that |
| 10:18.37 | Grum | cryogen: i agree :D |
| 10:18.40 | *** part/#wowace YourMomsHero (n=cirish@ip24-251-191-203.ph.ph.cox.net) |
| 10:18.41 | cryogen | surely people who have been in wow for a long time can remember the good old days |
| 10:18.43 | Arcaia | i was like.. gimme a sec please autobar is broken, gotta find my damn mount |
| 10:18.44 | Grum | but i was good fun =D |
| 10:18.48 | cryogen | pre-addons communication channel |
| 10:18.49 | Grum | yeah heheh |
| 10:18.53 | cryogen | and CT raid.. |
| 10:19.03 | Ellipsis | sighhhhhh |
| 10:19.04 | Grum | CTraid .. horrible |
| 10:19.16 | cryogen | ctraid used to work so inconsistantly :D |
| 10:19.20 | Arcaia | we raided w. defaults. |
| 10:19.23 | cryogen | i was a raid leader in those days |
| 10:19.24 | Ellipsis | there is nothing that makes me sadder than people completely dependent on addons to get anything done |
| 10:19.32 | cryogen | always had to yell at people to update because they were fucking up the raid |
| 10:19.39 | baer_ | oO |
| 10:19.39 | Ellipsis | I mean, I can understand not knowing where all your resist gear is without ItemRack |
| 10:19.44 | Arcaia | rogue channel was friggin awesomz |
| 10:19.52 | Ellipsis | but "AutoBar is broken, gotta find my mount?" |
| 10:19.56 | Grum | worst of yesterday was the 'i cannot see any items nor playernames and i disconnect' |
| 10:19.59 | Arcaia | yep |
| 10:20.05 | Grum | we had 5 people in the raid with that O.o |
| 10:20.08 | Arcaia | i dont use my bags for anything |
| 10:20.17 | Grum | autobar FTW |
| 10:20.19 | Arcaia | so onebag is at a .5 scale with 60% opacity |
| 10:20.33 | Ellipsis | I don't use my bags for mounting either |
| 10:20.34 | Arcaia | on my rogue |
| 10:20.35 | Ellipsis | I use a macro |
| 10:20.39 | Grum | lol |
| 10:20.40 | Ellipsis | that, guess what, wasn't broken in patch |
| 10:20.40 | Arcaia | i used autobar ;P |
| 10:20.53 | Grum | autobarautobarautobarautobarautobarautobarautobarautobarautobar++ |
| 10:21.04 | Ellipsis | HATE |
| 10:21.08 | Arcaia | autobar is working -enough- for me now |
| 10:21.13 | cryogen | autobar wins the internet |
| 10:21.25 | Grum | how can you play without? :D |
| 10:21.28 | cryogen | Ellipsis: stop with the autobar hate |
| 10:21.33 | cryogen | (see what i mean about emo girls?) |
| 10:21.34 | cryogen | me runs |
| 10:21.37 | cryogen | +/ |
| 10:21.47 | Ellipsis | eesh |
| 10:21.49 | Grum | emo-nub-girls you mean |
| 10:21.54 | Grum | who cant get their addons working |
| 10:21.55 | Ellipsis | I tried Autobar, it annoyed me |
| 10:22.00 | Arcaia | i dont think it is a necessity |
| 10:22.00 | Grum | nor use autobar |
| 10:22.07 | Ellipsis | I tried PT3Bar - it annoyed me, but slightly less |
| 10:22.11 | Arcaia | i just think it successfully cleared up about 12 button slots |
| 10:22.16 | Arcaia | 12-20 |
| 10:22.19 | [AoC]Camci | ANyone know how i disable moderation on a channel ingame? it used to be /moderate (channelname) but that doesnt work anymore |
| 10:22.20 | Arcaia | depending on the day |
| 10:22.20 | Grum | oh even more |
| 10:22.22 | Ellipsis | I don't use action b ar slots for consumables |
| 10:22.28 | Grum | i just need to 'fix it up' a bit |
| 10:22.28 | Ellipsis | I use my consumables bag like a normal person |
| 10:22.29 | cryogen | i used to have all sorts of food/water/pots different levels on my bars |
| 10:22.31 | Grum | LOL |
| 10:22.34 | Grum | you open your bag? |
| 10:22.38 | cryogen | when i installed autobar it was like, godly |
| 10:22.38 | [AoC]Camci | ppl cant talk cuz they dont have permission |
| 10:22.43 | cryogen | Grum: she keeps it open all the time :) |
| 10:22.48 | Grum | LOL! |
| 10:22.50 | Ellipsis | my food bag is open all t he time when I'm not in Shattrath |
| 10:22.55 | Ellipsis | not my entire inventory |
| 10:22.57 | Ellipsis | just the on e bag |
| 10:22.59 | orionshock | tbh if auto bar had a configureation gui that, configured it better , i might use it more |
| 10:23.01 | cryogen | smack your spacebar a bit |
| 10:23.02 | Ellipsis | which is the same stuff as AutoBar shows |
| 10:23.07 | Grum | i do have to say i dont always use autobar when i'm chucking down manapots |
| 10:23.18 | Ellipsis | k my USB keyboard just died |
| 10:23.24 | Ellipsis | so now I'm using the laptop one >_> |
| 10:23.27 | Grum | US .. that's the reason! |
| 10:23.41 | cryogen | the other nice thigns that autobar adds are nice |
| 10:23.42 | orionshock | the config gui for autobar is totaly unintuitive and backwards |
| 10:23.45 | cryogen | like.. rogue posisons |
| 10:23.51 | cryogen | teleports/portals |
| 10:23.51 | Grum | orionshock: i agree on that |
| 10:23.56 | cryogen | choice of mounts |
| 10:23.58 | cryogen | bandages |
| 10:23.59 | cryogen | etc |
| 10:24.00 | Grum | pets! |
| 10:24.05 | cryogen | orionshock: its getting improved! |
| 10:24.08 | Ellipsis | cryogen: if it's in my inventory, I have a bag for it |
| 10:24.09 | cryogen | Soon(tm) |
| 10:24.10 | Grum | i had 20 pets with me .. scrolled almost offscreen! |
| 10:24.12 | *** join/#wowace Chompers (n=Chomp@cpc2-cove7-0-0-cust20.brhm.cable.ntl.com) |
| 10:24.20 | Ellipsis | if it's not, it's probably important enough to have a macro keybound for it (like mounts) |
| 10:24.20 | cryogen | conjuring water too |
| 10:24.33 | cryogen | lol |
| 10:24.37 | Ellipsis | conjuring food/water/HS/SS = macros |
| 10:24.40 | cryogen | also quest items |
| 10:24.55 | Ellipsis | quest items are in your inventory |
| 10:24.55 | Grum | Ellipsis: and then? you have action buttons to activate the macros? |
| 10:25.04 | Arcaia | on autobar, right click = conjure, left click = use food/water |
| 10:25.07 | Ellipsis | Grum: I keybind frequently used stuff like mount |
| 10:25.10 | cryogen | i. dont. open. my. bags. in. combat. |
| 10:25.26 | cryogen | combat screen space is a premium |
| 10:25.28 | Grum | me neither |
| 10:25.28 | Ellipsis | I have a clicky macro for SS, for example |
| 10:25.36 | Ellipsis | cryogen: THE BAG TAKES UP THE SAME AMOUNT OF SPACE AS AUTOBAR |
| 10:25.43 | cryogen | what, 4 buttons? |
| 10:25.53 | Ellipsis | if that's all the food I have, yep |
| 10:25.54 | cryogen | for all your food/water/pots of all levels? |
| 10:25.59 | cryogen | and buff pots |
| 10:26.00 | cryogen | and buff food |
| 10:26.03 | Arcaia | autobar can take up like 0 space with cycricled and scaling ;P |
| 10:26.03 | cryogen | and quest items |
| 10:26.10 | cryogen | i sincerly doubt it |
| 10:26.13 | Ellipsis | cryogen: do you keep your buff stuff visible in AutoBar? |
| 10:26.17 | cryogen | of course |
| 10:26.19 | Grum | i counted last night |
| 10:26.25 | Ellipsis | I thoguht screen space was at a premium? |
| 10:26.28 | Grum | i have 45 consumable spots in my inv |
| 10:26.31 | cryogen | it is |
| 10:26.36 | Ellipsis | surely you don't need buff pots on your bar 24/7 |
| 10:26.40 | cryogen | its called popup buttons |
| 10:26.47 | Arcaia | my autobar takes up 6-7 16x16 squares on my 1280-960 interface |
| 10:26.54 | Ellipsis | at least I only have buff stuff in my inventory when I'm heading to a raid (I use my bank, novel idea huh) |
| 10:27.07 | Arcaia | and when it expands it expands over either a> damage meters [violation] or b> Omen |
| 10:27.08 | orionshock | humm... now that i have the video card..i should span wow accrost 2 screens |
| 10:27.19 | cryogen | dont even get me started on how full my bank/inventory always is :p |
| 10:27.25 | Grum | heeheh |
| 10:27.29 | cryogen | anyway stop stating your opinion as fact, it becomes more annoying every time |
| 10:27.40 | Grum | cryogen: that's why you have alts with 18slot bags+all bankslots |
| 10:27.48 | cryogen | Grum: i.. do, theirs is full too |
| 10:27.49 | Ellipsis | I'm not stating opinions as fact... |
| 10:27.50 | cryogen | seriously |
| 10:27.55 | Arcaia | people like me, that hate opening interface things |
| 10:27.55 | Grum | we've got an alt for nearly every type of 'goods' |
| 10:27.58 | cryogen | my char selection screen almost has a scroolbar :p |
| 10:27.58 | Arcaia | love autobar |
| 10:27.59 | Ellipsis | I said I don't use AutoBar b ecase I don't need it |
| 10:28.06 | Ellipsis | and I am annoyed b y people who can't play without it |
| 10:28.07 | cryogen | Ellipsis: no you said people who use autobar are stupid |
| 10:28.12 | Grum | cloth, leather, gems, ore, plants, enchant materials, repitems |
| 10:28.14 | cryogen | or something to that effect |
| 10:28.17 | Ellipsis | [3:21:05 am] * Ellipsis can't stand people who think AutoBar is necessary to play |
| 10:28.21 | Ellipsis | never called anyone stupid |
| 10:28.24 | Grum | you need autobar! |
| 10:28.27 | Grum | you just did! |
| 10:28.28 | cryogen | you probably did yesterday |
| 10:28.33 | cryogen | when we had this discussion all over again |
| 10:28.38 | cryogen | cant be bothered to check |
| 10:28.43 | orionshock | i think people that need threat meeter's to play are stupid :P |
| 10:28.46 | Ellipsis | cryogen |
| 10:28.50 | Grum | i think Ellipsis is a nub! |
| 10:28.59 | orionshock | correction: |
| 10:28.59 | Ellipsis | I would appreciate yuo not blaming me for things you assume I did, regardless of whether I've done them or not |
| 10:29.09 | orionshock | people that _need_ threat meeter's to play are stupid :P |
| 10:29.19 | Ellipsis | /agree |
| 10:29.25 | cryogen | and i would appreciate fewer blanket derogetory statements |
| 10:29.28 | cryogen | but hey, its not a perfect world |
| 10:29.31 | Ellipsis | I never made any, cryogen |
| 10:29.45 | Arcaia | i dont use omen half the time |
| 10:29.47 | Arcaia | Raid only ;P |
| 10:29.49 | Ellipsis | I stated a p ersonal choice (I don't use this mod) and an opinion (people who do annoy me) |
| 10:29.51 | Arcaia | just like damage meters |
| 10:29.55 | Arcaia | post-fight, raid only |
| 10:30.02 | Arcaia | otherwise they arent even loaded |
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| 10:30.45 | Arcaia | I annoy you? |
| 10:30.48 | Arcaia | =( |
| 10:30.51 | Ellipsis | I only really use Omen if I'm pugging with a non-prot tank |
| 10:30.58 | Ellipsis | because it makes it easier to be lazy |
| 10:31.09 | Arcaia | Gruul as a rogue = need Omen |
| 10:31.13 | Ellipsis | Arcaia: do you spend ten minutes figuring o ut how to mount or eat because y our precious AutoBar is b roken? |
| 10:31.22 | Arcaia | it didnt take 10 minutes |
| 10:31.27 | Arcaia | it took me like 25 seconds |
| 10:31.33 | Ellipsis | SCREW THIS SPACEBAR |
| 10:31.36 | Chompers | you can mount without autobar? |
| 10:31.37 | Chompers | holy crap |
| 10:31.39 | cryogen | Ellipsis: hit it, hard |
| 10:31.40 | Arcaia | and i dont ever have food on me.. ever |
| 10:31.47 | cryogen | Ellipsis: but really you are reading too much into the autobar whining :) |
| 10:31.50 | Arcaia | so dont count food into the equation ;P |
| 10:31.56 | cryogen | it's mostly humourous and non serious |
| 10:32.05 | Ellipsis | cryogen: if hitting it fixed the p roblem, it would have been fixed hours ago |
| 10:32.11 | cryogen | remove it |
| 10:32.12 | cryogen | clean it |
| 10:32.13 | cryogen | replace it :) |
| 10:32.25 | Ellipsis | it's a $5 keyboard that I've been meaning to replace for months |
| 10:32.28 | Ellipsis | I'd rather just b uy a new o ne |
| 10:32.29 | Arcaia | I wish honor gain was instant |
| 10:32.31 | cryogen | is it sticking? |
| 10:32.35 | Corgan | me too |
| 10:32.38 | Ellipsis | not physically |
| 10:32.40 | Corgan | it would be so awesome if it was :( |
| 10:32.42 | Arcaia | get a 20 dollar keyboard |
| 10:32.45 | Arcaia | those last ages. |
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| 10:32.49 | cryogen | also the really useful thing about autobar is when you have lots of alts |
| 10:32.49 | Ellipsis | I think it may b e a screwy cordless signal and/or b atteries |
| 10:32.51 | abbat_w | morning guys |
| 10:32.53 | cryogen | you just log in and everything is there |
| 10:32.57 | Vires | Buy it use it break it fix it trash it change it melt, upgrade it |
| 10:33.01 | abbat_w | So, i test 2 frameworks tonight |
| 10:33.04 | Ellipsis | cryogen: bag sorting mods do that for me :/ |
| 10:33.09 | abbat_w | And i don't see any overload etc |
| 10:33.17 | woden | guys i'm experience some slowness when i open baggins on my character |
| 10:33.26 | Ellipsis | abilities get put on actionbars, items stay in my bags - I see no need to confuse the issue with a third category |
| 10:33.30 | abbat_w | Just insane amount of folders in \Interface\Addons |
| 10:33.37 | woden | on my other account though where i run no real addons i don't have that issue |
| 10:33.44 | cryogen | Ellipsis: thats the point though, it does away with the need for one |
| 10:33.46 | woden | anyone know what i can do about it or what may be causing it? |
| 10:33.48 | abbat_w | And new RockConfig was surprise for me ;) |
| 10:33.49 | cryogen | plus i can put other stuff on the same bar |
| 10:33.51 | cryogen | hence i like it |
| 10:33.52 | Ellipsis | which, cryogen? |
| 10:34.04 | cryogen | a bag sorting mod |
| 10:34.12 | cryogen | (i still use baggings, for easy access to selling stufF) |
| 10:34.16 | cryogen | baggins* |
| 10:34.18 | Ellipsis | er |
| 10:34.21 | Ellipsis | so you HAVE a bag sorting mod |
| 10:34.25 | Ellipsis | you just don't want to configure it |
| 10:34.30 | Nargiddley | woden, theres gotta be another addon conflicting with Baggins |
| 10:34.31 | cryogen | i have no need to |
| 10:34.33 | cryogen | i have autobar |
| 10:34.42 | Ellipsis | one addon > two in my mind |
| 10:34.45 | cryogen | they serve different purposes |
| 10:34.45 | Nargiddley | I'm not getting the slowdown, so cant help as to which tho :/ |
| 10:34.46 | Ellipsis | sorry, but that's my logic >_> |
| 10:34.54 | cryogen | i cant put abilities in baggins |
| 10:35.03 | cryogen | (and baggins is a PITA to configure, FYI) |
| 10:35.05 | Ellipsis | has the tooltip glitch been fixed with Baggins now? |
| 10:35.10 | woden | could you think of any likely culprits cryogen? i haven't installed anything new |
| 10:35.21 | Nargiddley | bank tooltips work |
| 10:35.21 | Ellipsis | cryogen: if you really want to mix abilities and items, use a macro |
| 10:35.35 | cryogen | Ellipsis: i dont need to |
| 10:35.37 | cryogen | i have autobar |
| 10:35.42 | cryogen | woden: no idea |
| 10:35.54 | Ellipsis | Nargiddley: I mean the one where random tooltips appear if you open your bag while there is a tooltip on your screen |
| 10:36.10 | cryogen | Ellipsis: for the record, i dont like macros, mainly for historical reasons and the fact i use more than one computer |
| 10:36.13 | Nargiddley | Ellipsis, well since thats the first report i've had of it. no |
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| 10:37.09 | cryogen | i play lots of different characters and autobar automatically gives me access to everything important from each, right there next to my actionbars |
| 10:37.15 | Ellipsis | swoot I got a primal might for < 90g |
| 10:37.20 | Vires | I used to like individual bag views. Then I started using Bagnon. I like the whole All-in-one inventory idea... tried Oneview.. found it annoying.. Baggins doesn't do it for me, I like to see empty slots. |
| 10:37.21 | cryogen | which no effort on my part |
| 10:37.26 | Ellipsis | Nargiddley: it's quite reproducible, e.g. opening mailbox |
| 10:37.39 | Vires | Go get Bagnon again, I guess, heh |
| 10:37.46 | Nargiddley | vires, everything you mentioned is an option |
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| 10:37.59 | Vires | of? |
| 10:38.11 | Nargiddley | Baggins, you dont have to compress empty slots |
| 10:38.13 | cryogen | s/which/with/ |
| 10:38.42 | Ellipsis | cryogen: I can understand using AutoBar if you have a billion alts and don't bother configuring the UI for each one |
| 10:38.47 | Ellipsis | you win kk? |
| 10:38.51 | Ellipsis | now I have a 5man to run XD |
| 10:38.54 | Grum | Vires: baggins can how slots |
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| 10:40.28 | Livid | anyone having problems with xloot when picking items up tooltips are shooting way off to the side ? |
| 10:40.33 | cryogen | Ellipsis: you are finally understanding :) |
| 10:40.47 | abbat_w | !c eu warsong immoralist |
| 10:40.49 | ThraeBot | abbat_w: Immoralist, Level 70 Undead Mage (0/7/54). 10053 HP; 8456 Mana; 125 mana regen; 131 spell crit; 41 spell hit; 868 +spell dmg/heal; 54 frost dmg (922); 54 shadow dmg (922); 4.94% dodge; 444 resilience; 10 shadow resist (+10);[[ TBR: 1342 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/yqwmvu ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/3agm7k ][ Updated: Thu Sep 27 06:55:41 2007 EST ]] |
| 10:40.53 | abbat_w | !c eu warsong dharma |
| 10:40.55 | ThraeBot | abbat_w: Dharma, Level 70 Tauren Shaman (18/0/43). 10194 HP; 8318 Mana; 162 mana regen; 63 mp5; 11116 Armour; 4.03% melee crit; 131 spell crit; 12 spell hit; 140 +spell dmg; 1532 +heal; 4.03% dodge; 5.00% block; 395 resilience; 10 nature resist (+10);[[ TBR: 1174 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/238cw8 ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/2vz347 ][ Updated: Thu Sep 27 06:55:47 2007 EST ]] |
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| 10:41.15 | Ellipsis | cryogen: I am a one-charater-at-a-time kind of girl, so I miss out on things like that |
| 10:41.23 | cryogen | Ellipsis: its not exactly devastating if autobar disappears... but it is an annoyance |
| 10:41.25 | Ellipsis | sort of like I don't understand users' needs for PvP addons |
| 10:42.48 | Punkie` | autobar was great pre 2.0 |
| 10:42.58 | Punkie` | now it's the addon I'm glad I live without :P |
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| 10:44.04 | pb_ee1 | Punkie`, why? |
| 10:44.15 | Punkie` | because it isn't very useful in combat |
| 10:44.40 | Gngsk | autorack can do all the things autobar did pre-2.0 |
| 10:44.53 | Punkie` | does it shuffle bagslots then? |
| 10:44.57 | Gngsk | yep |
| 10:45.48 | orionshock | urg... what is outputing my CD's to the error frame |
| 10:45.51 | Gngsk | couldn't live without one button for all healthstone/healthpots |
| 10:46.22 | neenee | Now you just waste a lot of buttons for the different kinds? |
| 10:46.27 | Vires | Ok, so how do I adjust the width? |
| 10:46.45 | Ellipsis | blargh |
| 10:46.49 | Ellipsis | CowTip bug is back :( |
| 10:47.04 | Gngsk | neenee, 6 drinks healthstone first then potion |
| 10:47.11 | Gngsk | 6 being the keybinding |
| 10:47.46 | cryogen | autorack is terrible :p |
| 10:47.53 | Arcaia | you drink healthstones? |
| 10:48.00 | dieck | is there any addon to simply get more of the "standard blizzard buttons"? on some characters, used all 6 bars, and I'd be nice to have shift-7 to shift-0 too ;) |
| 10:48.02 | Gngsk | how is it terrible? |
| 10:48.19 | Arcaia | bartender3? |
| 10:48.19 | neenee | I've never heard of Autorack |
| 10:48.32 | Trell_ | Ellipsis> CowTip bug is back :( - what |
| 10:48.53 | dieck | Arcaia: bartender does that? ok, I thought it would replace the standard blizzard bar completely. |
| 10:48.55 | Ellipsis | Trell_, there's a glitch where tags involving [Target] don't work on startup |
| 10:48.56 | neenee | though the latest version I can see on wowinterface is from 2006 |
| 10:49.06 | Gngsk | works fine for me |
| 10:49.14 | Gngsk | config could be a lot better but meh, it does what I want it to |
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| 10:50.08 | Arcaia | i misunderstood you neenee |
| 10:50.08 | neenee | oh that.. |
| 10:50.11 | neenee | I've seen that before. |
| 10:50.17 | Arcaia | you just want those 2 extra bars? |
| 10:50.24 | cryogen | Gngsk: it messes with my bags, for a start |
| 10:50.32 | neenee | Arcaia, I don't want any bars at all. I think you mean someone else |
| 10:50.38 | Ellipsis | grr |
| 10:50.40 | Ellipsis | ckknight lies >_> |
| 10:50.45 | Arcaia | i mean dieck |
| 10:50.46 | Arcaia | >.< |
| 10:50.46 | neenee | Arcaia, I think you mean dieck |
| 10:50.48 | Gngsk | cryogen, of course it does. that's how it works :P |
| 10:50.49 | Arcaia | yea |
| 10:50.54 | Arcaia | clicked on wrong name |
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| 10:51.13 | Arcaia | dieck: you just want the 2 extra bars? |
| 10:51.13 | cryogen | Gngsk: yeah, and thats terrible :p |
| 10:51.19 | cryogen | (compared to autobar) |
| 10:51.38 | Arcaia | more easily customizable than autobar apparently |
| 10:51.49 | Gngsk | except autobar is terrible becuase you can't drink healthstone and healthpot with one button in combat |
| 10:52.12 | Grum | yeah not sure why they never fixed that |
| 10:52.17 | cryogen | Coming Soon |
| 10:52.22 | Grum | FIX IT SLACKER |
| 10:52.26 | Grum | EVERYONE NEEDS IT |
| 10:52.29 | Arcaia | dieck - > you thar? |
| 10:52.34 | cryogen | the autobar state stuff is a bit dodgy |
| 10:52.40 | cryogen | toad is reworking it i believe |
| 10:52.43 | Grum | then undoggy it! |
| 10:52.55 | Gngsk | I thought it was impossible because of the 2.0 protected stuff |
| 10:53.03 | dieck | Arcaia: yeah, just installed bartender |
| 10:53.22 | abbat_w | nevcairiel update bt3 to 2.2? :) |
| 10:53.26 | Arcaia | yea, bt3 can do it, you'd probably just have to toggle replacement on the first bars i think, donno |
| 10:53.41 | dieck | Arcaia: I'll have a look |
| 10:54.11 | Arcaia | maybe flexbar.. it's an infinite amount >.> |
| 10:54.25 | orionshock | ok - wtf, hourglass / sink is outputing to the error frame and parrot |
| 10:54.28 | orionshock | >.> |
| 10:54.45 | supp | hey guys |
| 10:55.00 | supp | i got a bugged addon but i dont know which |
| 10:55.11 | supp | did any of you notice you couldnt inspect your own equipped gear? |
| 10:55.22 | Arcaia | haven't had that issue |
| 10:55.46 | supp | :< |
| 10:55.47 | dieck | Arcaia: I like my "standard" interface buttons, everytime some friends log on on my pc, I love to see them not beeing able to play, because they're too used to their own interface -- I can still play on a basic installation without addons :) |
| 10:55.58 | dieck | so I don't want to spoil too much of myself by addons ;) |
| 10:56.29 | Arcaia | dieck - why are you in #wowace then ;P we are addon junkies !! |
| 10:56.33 | neenee | The default interface isn't difficult, so I think anyone can play. For raiding/healing however, it might be a bit more difficult without click-casting for instance. |
| 10:56.33 | Arcaia | but i feel you |
| 10:56.36 | Arcaia | I did that for awhile |
| 10:56.48 | Arcaia | after a patch i was so pissed that absolutely everything broke |
| 10:56.54 | Arcaia | so i used no addons |
| 10:56.55 | Arcaia | for awhile |
| 10:57.05 | dieck | supp: I had the same problem, was LootLink with me. Deinstalled, installed TooltipExchange, and I'm good :) |
| 10:57.05 | Arcaia | then i got back to it |
| 10:57.21 | dieck | supp: a friend told me his outfitter did the same thing |
| 10:57.44 | dieck | Arcaia: oh, I use quite a lot of addons |
| 10:57.48 | Arcaia | dieck: the key is finding a bar mod that doesn't replace by default, gonna be hard to do. |
| 10:57.59 | dieck | Arcaia: but nothing which does something extreme to the standard bars |
| 10:58.19 | Arcaia | dieck: exactly, most barmods have 7-10 bars [from what ive seen] |
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| 10:59.09 | Trell_ | maybe I'm being dumb, but whats the benefit of: Auction House scanning will receive its own API letting you scan the whole AH every 15 minutes with any addon. |
| 10:59.21 | Ellipsis | I love that reflected Siphon Life is a HoT |
| 10:59.28 | Ellipsis | gg Fel Armor |
| 10:59.55 | Trell_ | and whats your opinion on the daily BG quests giving gold, xp AND honor? |
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| 11:00.15 | dieck | hm? which daily BG quest? |
| 11:00.18 | Arcaia | well all my barmod stuff |
| 11:00.20 | dieck | I missed that |
| 11:00.22 | Arcaia | only effects the look |
| 11:00.31 | Arcaia | its still the same actionkeys/keybindings ;P |
| 11:00.41 | Trell_ | New daily quests for battlegrounds have been added, they're dedicated to one specific battleground each day, are available to players of all levels, and reward experience, gold, and honor. |
| 11:00.47 | Trell_ | this is all 2.3 btw |
| 11:00.49 | Arcaia | http://randomfew.net/random.public/uiss/ |
| 11:01.05 | dieck | Arcaia: I like the bar on the bottom, so it's no problem to me to use the standard interface |
| 11:01.19 | Arcaia | bartender3 keeps all the bars |
| 11:01.22 | Arcaia | just makes them movable |
| 11:01.31 | Arcaia | so in theory you could arrange it exactly like blizzard ui |
| 11:01.36 | Arcaia | but without the griffons ;P |
| 11:01.47 | Arcaia | keeps latency/xp/bags/micromenu |
| 11:01.58 | Arcaia | default bag layout |
| 11:02.02 | Arcaia | keyring display ;P |
| 11:02.13 | Recluse | you just lose the art panel from behind it XD |
| 11:02.28 | _dreamss | Trell_, what dily BG quest? |
| 11:02.29 | JoshBorke | Trell_: i'm willing to bet that they mean if you're under 70 you'll get XP and a little bit of gold, if you're 70 you'll just get gold, and the honor is from playing the BG |
| 11:02.40 | _dreamss | win a BG kind of quest |
| 11:02.59 | Arcaia | is my website down? |
| 11:03.26 | Trell_ | no idea yet _dreamss |
| 11:03.34 | Trell_ | this is all posts from blues about changes in 2.3 |
| 11:03.43 | Trell_ | which apparently is going to be released uber fast |
| 11:03.45 | _dreamss | is it on the convined 2.3 changes? |
| 11:04.12 | _dreamss | yeah looks like they been working in 2.3 since blizzcon |
| 11:04.14 | Trell_ | check mmo-champion or worldofraids |
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| 11:04.27 | cryogen | Trell_: previously addons were rate-limited getting AH data |
| 11:04.30 | Trell_ | but yeah, Zul'Aman is aparrently completed and theyve internally tested it |
| 11:04.32 | cryogen | Trell_: now they get it all-at-once |
| 11:04.35 | cryogen | once every 15 minutes |
| 11:04.55 | Trell_ | ah I see - is that why you had to manually scan with Auctioneer etc, am I understanding that right? |
| 11:05.02 | cryogen | no |
| 11:05.03 | _dreamss | new method is better |
| 11:05.07 | _dreamss | imo |
| 11:05.11 | cryogen | its just auctioneer takes longer because it has enforced delays |
| 11:05.11 | Trell_ | ok I'm being blonde |
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| 11:05.53 | Mech0z | Is this really how baggings should look ? http://images.uploadimago.net/?s=12652Untitled.jpg |
| 11:06.15 | Arcaia | yes |
| 11:06.20 | Arcaia | sadly. |
| 11:06.34 | JoshBorke | aw, they are nerfing fear ward |
| 11:06.35 | Arcaia | cept Mats |
| 11:06.37 | Arcaia | in bank |
| 11:06.55 | Trell_ | Josh; but spreading it around |
| 11:07.06 | cryogen | JoshBorke: they are? |
| 11:07.09 | cryogen | Trell_: they are? |
| 11:07.09 | Mech0z | but why is it shoing lapping over each other |
| 11:07.13 | Nargiddley | increasing the number of columns should help with that |
| 11:07.15 | Mech0z | and showing the normal bank frame as well |
| 11:07.22 | Trell_ | yes; duration lowered, cd increased |
| 11:07.26 | Trell_ | but all races get it at 20 now |
| 11:07.30 | cryogen | pff |
| 11:07.35 | cryogen | whats the point |
| 11:07.48 | Nargiddley | Mech0z cause its hitting the edge of the screen and you havent enabled hide default bank |
| 11:07.48 | Trell_ | 3m duration |
| 11:07.49 | Trell_ | 3m cd |
| 11:07.51 | JoshBorke | all races get it now |
| 11:07.53 | Sithy__ | basically it takes it out of PvE for the most part, warriors need to l2stancedance. |
| 11:07.55 | Mech0z | okay |
| 11:07.56 | cryogen | they are just acknowledging how overpowered it was |
| 11:07.59 | JoshBorke | that's the point ;-P |
| 11:08.07 | cryogen | JoshBorke: yes but its now useless |
| 11:08.08 | cryogen | so why bother |
| 11:08.19 | cryogen | they said all this time that it wasnt critical to anything and wasnt overpowered |
| 11:08.36 | cryogen | now they are saying what they said was BS because they need to nerf it before everyone gets it |
| 11:08.50 | JoshBorke | if they had admitted it was OPed then they would have had to change it sooner |
| 11:09.07 | cryogen | just more blizzard bollocks |
| 11:09.07 | Sithy__ | they obviously want warriors to keep cutting all priests in half. |
| 11:09.28 | cryogen | where are these notes btw? |
| 11:09.38 | Trell_ | www.mmo-champion.com |
| 11:09.39 | JoshBorke | www.mmo-champion.com |
| 11:09.41 | Sithy__ | theres a compilted |
| 11:09.45 | Trell_ | thats the best compilation imo |
| 11:09.46 | Arcaia | blizzard does that |
| 11:09.50 | Sithy__ | compiled list that is |
| 11:09.57 | Sithy__ | blue posts from today. |
| 11:10.03 | Arcaia | WORKING AS INTENDED. -Fixed this it was broken before, changed to better balance. |
| 11:10.04 | Trell_ | warriors mace spec is getting nerfed :P |
| 11:10.09 | Arcaia | Within 3 days of each other |
| 11:10.13 | Arcaia | all the damn time. |
| 11:10.19 | Arcaia | Welcome to WoW development. |
| 11:10.21 | Sithy__ | all the regen talents are going to be 10/20/30% of your regen while casting now... so mages, druids and priests... |
| 11:10.38 | _dreamss | shmans dont have that |
| 11:10.39 | _dreamss | heh |
| 11:10.41 | Arcaia | it was 15% before? |
| 11:10.41 | cryogen | Level 20-60 Quest EXP has been increased, while EXP to Level has been decreased |
| 11:10.46 | cryogen | nice, givf 2.3 now plix |
| 11:10.47 | Sithy__ | yeah was 5/10/15 |
| 11:10.53 | Arcaia | nice |
| 11:10.53 | Grum | meh that sucks |
| 11:10.58 | Arcaia | my shaman's going ELE again! |
| 11:10.59 | Grum | that makes mp5 completely worthless again |
| 11:11.01 | Arcaia | WOOH!!!!!111!!! |
| 11:11.08 | Arcaia | wtb Spirit gear. |
| 11:11.11 | Ellipsis | want mana regen |
| 11:11.14 | Sithy__ | doesnt make mp/5 worthless, does make spirit more powerful finally. |
| 11:11.15 | _dreamss | have they fixed the honor a hero season quest for be/drnai? |
| 11:11.16 | _dreamss | a |
| 11:11.18 | Trell_ | yeah shammies are getting a lot of love |
| 11:11.19 | Ellipsis | oh wait I'll just ninja the healers' extra mana with lifetap |
| 11:11.20 | Trell_ | its nice |
| 11:11.21 | Ellipsis | WIN |
| 11:11.21 | Grum | Sithy__: too powerful |
| 11:11.22 | _dreamss | aparently they not horde/alliance |
| 11:11.23 | Sithy__ | you wont see a mage running around in spirit gear anyway. |
| 11:11.31 | Grum | with 30% you are on 4spi vs 1mp5 |
| 11:11.33 | cryogen | hmm |
| 11:11.34 | _dreamss | yeah my shaman i sloving the new focused mind' |
| 11:11.41 | cryogen | this site is just assuming everything listed is going in 2.3 |
| 11:11.41 | _dreamss | we went 9-1 in arenas today |
| 11:11.50 | cryogen | im fairly sure most of this stuff is in fact, destined for the next expansion |
| 11:11.56 | _dreamss | ? |
| 11:11.58 | Trell_ | i think this will get nerfed surely: Arcane Shot (Rank 6+) will now dispel 1 Magic effect in addition to damage |
| 11:11.58 | Sithy__ | read some of the source blues |
| 11:11.58 | _dreamss | like |
| 11:12.10 | cryogen | Sithy__: all the expansion stuff has no source next to it :) |
| 11:12.15 | Sithy__ | a good portion of them say in 2.3 |
| 11:12.16 | _dreamss | tell it will disepll BOP |
| 11:12.16 | Sithy__ | yeah |
| 11:12.19 | cryogen | like: +Healing bonus will give 33% of spell damage as well (1500 Healing bonus will give you 500 Spell damage) |
| 11:12.22 | cryogen | thats next expansion |
| 11:12.23 | cryogen | not 2.3 |
| 11:12.25 | _dreamss | which is a major thing |
| 11:12.27 | _dreamss | nah |
| 11:12.28 | Grum | its 2.3! |
| 11:12.33 | Arcaia | its 2.3 |
| 11:12.34 | cryogen | source? |
| 11:12.34 | Arcaia | Thanks |
| 11:12.35 | Arcaia | L2P |
| 11:12.39 | _dreamss | 2.3-4 getting loads of changes |
| 11:12.42 | Grum | why wouldn't it be 2.3 - its like really .. easy to implement |
| 11:12.42 | _dreamss | before exppac |
| 11:12.44 | Arcaia | source = Blue posts across europe and us |
| 11:12.50 | Grum | will not imbalance anything |
| 11:12.52 | cryogen | link one :p |
| 11:12.57 | Trell_ | the thing im confused about for rogues |
| 11:12.58 | Grum | will just give more options to people |
| 11:13.04 | Arcaia | all the info you needz is at mmo-champion |
| 11:13.09 | Trell_ | is the fact that shadowstep and your next move reduces the threat by 50% |
| 11:13.11 | Grum | or worldofraids |
| 11:13.13 | _dreamss | a healer has around 2k/1.5 +heakling |
| 11:13.14 | Trell_ | wtf is that |
| 11:13.19 | Codayus | Hmm |
| 11:13.21 | cryogen | Arcaia: i prefer blizzard stuff |
| 11:13.22 | _dreamss | thats just like 600 spell damage |
| 11:13.23 | Codayus | Neat changes |
| 11:13.25 | Codayus | # Devastate now combines the effects of Sunder Armor into it's effect, and is affected by all talents and items that affect Sunder Armor |
| 11:13.27 | _dreamss | and no crit |
| 11:13.29 | Grum | _dreamss: which is completely fair |
| 11:13.32 | Sithy__ | shadowstep can be used out of stealth... try are trying to fix it lol |
| 11:13.35 | Arcaia | cryogen: sounds like you are a commu-nazi |
| 11:13.38 | Grum | makes grinding bearable for holy-ones |
| 11:13.40 | Codayus | Imp Sunder no longer useless...Devestate now REALLY freaking cheap. |
| 11:13.42 | cryogen | Arcaia: nah, im just out of date |
| 11:13.45 | Arcaia | I ONLY ACCEPT FIRSTHAND SOURCES. |
| 11:13.48 | cryogen | lots of this stuff WAS slated for the expansion |
| 11:13.52 | _dreamss | compared to pure spell damage set which will give 2x spell dmg? |
| 11:13.54 | cryogen | but now theyve moved the target of a lot of it |
| 11:14.01 | Arcaia | That's like say that your local news can't be trusted with live reports. |
| 11:14.01 | JoshBorke | woot! The leveling curve adjustments are planned for the next major content patch, and we'll be releasing information on the large number of pre-Burning Crusade quality of life changes going in with that patch very soonâ„¢. |
| 11:14.06 | JoshBorke | it really IS coming in 2.3 |
| 11:14.06 | Trell_ | Sithy__: the threat change is useless when solo, useless in PvP, and how many Rogues are raiding with shadowstep right now? |
| 11:14.10 | _dreamss | nah cry, blizzcon said they adding a lot of stuff before 3.0 |
| 11:14.18 | Sithy__ | I know, I never said it was a good change! |
| 11:14.18 | cryogen | JoshBorke: woot |
| 11:14.19 | Grum | from 2.3 i'll be leveling my mage again :D |
| 11:14.27 | Arcaia | http://www.mmo-champion.com/index.php?topic=1365.0 |
| 11:14.31 | Grum | i might even start over |
| 11:14.33 | cryogen | _dreamss: actually blizzcon was where it was said to be going in expansion :) |
| 11:14.34 | cryogen | go figure |
| 11:14.34 | JoshBorke | www.worldofraids.com has more blue links |
| 11:14.35 | Arcaia | they link the sources for each thing in the post. |
| 11:14.38 | Arcaia | just go look |
| 11:14.39 | _dreamss | nah cry |
| 11:14.42 | Arcaia | yea world ofraids.com |
| 11:14.50 | _dreamss | specially the shaman changes |
| 11:14.53 | _dreamss | and the new maps |
| 11:14.56 | Trell_ | I realise they are trying to fix the Rogue class, especially in high end pvp, but I don't see how adding a threat reduction to shadowstep makes a difference |
| 11:15.03 | _dreamss | pally/priest too |
| 11:15.10 | Sithy__ | the people that complain about healers getting free spelldamage make me cry... like we will be able to kill anything anyway. |
| 11:15.13 | cryogen | hmm |
| 11:15.17 | cryogen | nice shaman change |
| 11:15.20 | Arcaia | yes |
| 11:15.24 | Arcaia | elemental focus is amazing |
| 11:15.24 | _dreamss | its not OP sithy |
| 11:15.28 | _dreamss | dude |
| 11:15.35 | _dreamss | enhas is getting SO much love |
| 11:15.39 | cryogen | Shamanistic rage also reduces all damages taken by 30% |
| 11:15.42 | cryogen | wtf |
| 11:15.43 | Grum | Sithy__: with 600 spelldmg i'd atleast not be forced to waste 16 bagslots for +dmg gear |
| 11:15.43 | Arcaia | 500 spelldamage is just enough to grind with |
| 11:15.46 | Arcaia | YES |
| 11:15.47 | _dreamss | 30% dmg reduction 30secs of every 2mins? |
| 11:15.50 | _dreamss | FUCK YES |
| 11:15.55 | Grum | and -5% threat |
| 11:15.58 | cryogen | overpowered? i think so :p |
| 11:15.59 | Arcaia | PAIN SUPPRESION GO THE BIGGEST BUFF |
| 11:16.01 | _dreamss | nah |
| 11:16.01 | Sithy__ | read again, I'm all for free spelldamage :) |
| 11:16.12 | Arcaia | •Pain Suppresion may target Friendly targets. (src) |
| 11:16.13 | Arcaia | •Pain Suppresion reduces Friendly target's threat by 5%. (src) |
| 11:16.13 | Arcaia | •Pain Suppresion reduces Friendly target's damage taken by 40%. (src) |
| 11:16.19 | _dreamss | yeah |
| 11:16.25 | cryogen | ana Spring Totem now restores mana at a rate of 20 mana every 2 seconds |
| 11:16.27 | Sithy__ | PS still kind of meh, has some utility but you lose so much healing power. |
| 11:16.27 | cryogen | whats it do now? |
| 11:16.28 | _dreamss | painj sup getting major pve love |
| 11:16.30 | Codayus | Pain supression needed a HUGE buff for pve. I fear this may only be a very large buff, and thus still insuficcient. |
| 11:16.41 | Trell_ | i LOVE the change to bg's - with the res and on entry arena type buff period |
| 11:16.50 | _dreamss | dude |
| 11:16.54 | _dreamss | arena shoulder |
| 11:16.54 | Trell_ | so annoying ressing, buffing yourself up and being low on mana |
| 11:16.56 | _dreamss | major LOL |
| 11:16.57 | cryogen | Water Shield now costs 0 mana to cast, and the mana per globe has been substantially increased |
| 11:16.59 | Arcaia | yea |
| 11:17.00 | cryogen | YAY |
| 11:17.03 | _dreamss | yeah thats fat |
| 11:17.04 | Arcaia | s3 is a joke |
| 11:17.07 | _dreamss | and lasts 1minute |
| 11:17.11 | _dreamss | no DR on frost shock! |
| 11:17.11 | Grum | i really hope painsupression will be nerfed a bit |
| 11:17.15 | Grum | or have -25% threat orso |
| 11:17.17 | _dreamss | about 20 patches later |
| 11:17.18 | _dreamss | lol |
| 11:17.23 | _dreamss | fuck u crybabies |
| 11:17.33 | _dreamss | "wah wah frost shock wah wah" |
| 11:17.38 | Grum | the problem i see is that raids will be tuned to take in account that 2-3 priest will have it |
| 11:17.42 | Codayus | Grum: Well, in some ways, the -threat is a feature. A targetable -threat buff is powerful in its own right. |
| 11:17.43 | _dreamss | that shit made my life miserable :( |
| 11:17.52 | Grum | Codayus: yeah indeed |
| 11:17.53 | Sithy__ | -25% threat would remove the utility, you'd just be there to save AoEs on some gimmik encounter. |
| 11:18.01 | *** join/#wowace Sole (n=chatzill@203.173.139.197) |
| 11:18.06 | Grum | but i'm afraid that it might be abuse as 'tank prolonger' |
| 11:18.16 | supp | i think the s3 changes with that personal rating are awesome |
| 11:18.19 | Grum | so that in some fights you *NEED* to have it to have your tank survive |
| 11:18.27 | Codayus | Expansion is supposed to come with a full disc tree rethink; until then...I don't think we'll see serious raiding priests take it. |
| 11:18.32 | JoshBorke | pain suppression will always go to shadow priest =P |
| 11:18.32 | supp | i hate seeing newbies with 1500 - 1600 rating running around with 98 dps weapons |
| 11:18.34 | cryogen | Vengeance has been increased to 30 seconds |
| 11:18.35 | cryogen | yay |
| 11:18.36 | Grum | Codayus: you will |
| 11:18.42 | Codayus | We'll see. :-) |
| 11:18.51 | Sithy__ | Codayus, I agree. |
| 11:18.56 | Grum | how long is shieldwall? 12s right? |
| 11:18.58 | Arcaia | Tank Prolonger - Gruul |
| 11:19.10 | Grum | so if you pop painsupression then after 18s pop shieldwall .. you are 100% immune |
| 11:19.13 | cryogen | Crusader Strike cooldown is being lowered to 6 seconds. |
| 11:19.14 | cryogen | thats nice too |
| 11:19.18 | Arcaia | HI HATEFUL/HARMFUL/WTFEVERFUL Strike |
| 11:19.23 | Grum | Arcaia: indeed |
| 11:19.28 | Grum | no offtanks needed |
| 11:19.30 | Codayus | Too many DPS race fights; too few tank gibbage fights. And who do you kick from the raid to fit them in? Your serious raid guild odesn't HAVE that many holy priests to make respec... |
| 11:19.30 | _dreamss | i dont get the personal rating, if u only play 30% of your team games your personal rating will be lower than the team? |
| 11:19.31 | Grum | who bloody cares |
| 11:19.35 | Sithy__ | yeah what fights do you really need that extra prolonging, only enrage fights and even then 40% generally wont save anyone. |
| 11:19.52 | Grum | Codayus: we have 5 raid-ready holy priests |
| 11:19.56 | cryogen | Arcane Shot (Rank 6+) will now dispel 1 Magic effect in addition to damage |
| 11:19.57 | Codayus | Grum: oO |
| 11:19.58 | Trell_ | Sithy_ 40% is a lot |
| 11:19.59 | cryogen | o_O o_O o_O |
| 11:19.59 | Ellipsis | ping Nargiddley |
| 11:20.01 | Grum | and occasionally take 4 |
| 11:20.14 | cryogen | overpowered maybe? |
| 11:20.21 | _dreamss | cry, like i said biggest issue is dispelling bop |
| 11:20.21 | Nargiddley | Ellipsis? |
| 11:20.22 | supp | the personal rating is that every arena game you participate in it gives you a personal rating change. this means if you loose a game for 10 points your personal rating changes by -10 |
| 11:20.25 | _dreamss | anything else who cares |
| 11:20.27 | Sithy__ | could be interesting on Kael |
| 11:20.27 | CIA-22 | 03celellach * r50041 10AtlasLoot_WorldLoot/WorldEvents.en.lua: |
| 11:20.27 | CIA-22 | AtlasLoot_WorldLoot: |
| 11:20.27 | CIA-22 | - Added Time-Lost Figurine to Terokk's loot table |
| 11:20.37 | the-golem | !c us drak'thul mistblade |
| 11:20.39 | Codayus | So de we, but we're not a serious raid guild. If we were, we'd sell a couple into slavery and use the gold to buy a resto shaman. :-) |
| 11:20.39 | ThraeBot | the-golem: Mistblade, Level 70 Night Elf Warrior (10/0/51). 13824 HP; 14678 Armour; 778 AP; 152.900 Melee DPS; 8.87% melee crit; 338 defense; 17.98% dodge; 24.09% block; 10 nature resist (+10);[[ TBR: 1567 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/yrruer ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/349fm9 ][ Updated: Thu Sep 27 07:35:31 2007 EST ]] |
| 11:20.53 | _dreamss | supp, yes but if u only play 30% ur rating will be lower than the teams rating |
| 11:20.55 | _dreamss | right? |
| 11:20.57 | supp | if you leave the team now and join another team your personal rating change will be calculated how many points you would get if your TEAM rating was as high as your pers. rating |
| 11:21.08 | supp | yeah but the personal rating just counts YOUR games |
| 11:21.11 | Ellipsis | Nargiddley: seeing some strange things with compression of soul shards with a shard bag on |
| 11:21.13 | supp | the ones you actually took part in |
| 11:21.21 | Ellipsis | in a run atm, but I'll explain it later |
| 11:21.27 | _dreamss | yes supp |
| 11:21.30 | supp | example: you play a new team up to 1800 |
| 11:21.37 | supp | meaning your personal rating is now 1800 |
| 11:21.41 | supp | and your team rating |
| 11:21.46 | Nargiddley | heading to bed real soon, post it in the thread i'll look at it over the weekend |
| 11:21.55 | _dreamss | not if u only play a handfull of their games |
| 11:21.57 | _dreamss | supp |
| 11:21.58 | supp | you play 5on5 then with a starting rating of 1900 |
| 11:22.05 | *** join/#wowace Arcaia (n=cnflct@131.247.79.219) |
| 11:22.07 | supp | (considering you played all games) |
| 11:22.07 | Arcaia | ;P |
| 11:22.16 | Ellipsis | kk Nargiddley |
| 11:22.18 | supp | you join that 1900 rating 5on5 team |
| 11:22.22 | Arcaia | power blinked |
| 11:22.24 | Arcaia | what did i miss? |
| 11:22.27 | supp | and loose 30 points |
| 11:22.33 | supp | (2x15) |
| 11:22.55 | supp | your personal rating will be changed by the amount that you would loose if your team looses with 1800 vs a 1900 rating team |
| 11:23.00 | supp | (approx 20 points) |
| 11:23.09 | supp | 2 times of course |
| 11:23.15 | Arcaia | someone name an addon |
| 11:23.19 | Arcaia | that they love |
| 11:23.20 | CIA-22 | 03ammo 07Alpha * r50042 10Ace3/AceConsole-3.0/AceConsole-3.0.lua: Ace3: AceConsole-3.0 - remove _ reference |
| 11:23.22 | Arcaia | that i probably dont have |
| 11:23.23 | JoshBorke | Arcaia: clique |
| 11:23.25 | supp | meaning your pers. rating will go down to about 1760 |
| 11:23.30 | Arcaia | clique fails for a rogue |
| 11:23.32 | JoshBorke | Arcaia: TomTom, LightHeaded |
| 11:23.36 | supp | but your 2on2 / 3on3 ) rating will still be 1800 |
| 11:23.38 | Arcaia | what is tomtom? |
| 11:23.43 | Arcaia | and already have lightheaded? |
| 11:24.01 | JoshBorke | a very slim coordinates + waypoints addon |
| 11:24.10 | Arcaia | i use cartographer |
| 11:24.11 | Arcaia | next ;P |
| 11:24.21 | JoshBorke | ct_buffmod |
| 11:24.22 | xyu | allows you to click on coords right inside lightheaded |
| 11:24.24 | [DiE]Celeb | supp; thatd be oposite tho, if your at 1800 and loose vs a 1900 team you loose less points, not more |
| 11:24.27 | xyu | and it'll add them to the waypoint |
| 11:24.29 | Arcaia | use it, next |
| 11:24.30 | Arcaia | ;P |
| 11:24.40 | JoshBorke | mumble |
| 11:24.45 | Arcaia | what is mumble? |
| 11:24.50 | JoshBorke | a slim prat |
| 11:25.11 | Arcaia | i dont like prat that much, i use minichat/teknicolor/minimalist |
| 11:25.19 | CIA-22 | 03phyber * r50043 10StatComp/: StatComp: BE GONE. |
| 11:25.19 | Arcaia | that takes care of multiple things for me |
| 11:25.20 | Arcaia | ;P |
| 11:25.22 | Arcaia | next ;P |
| 11:25.33 | *** join/#wowace Beutju (n=tus@p57A7A554.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 11:25.34 | JoshBorke | TimeBlock |
| 11:25.39 | Arcaia | timeblock? |
| 11:25.43 | JoshBorke | a clock addon :-D |
| 11:26.00 | *** join/#wowace Raz^^ (i=alyx-@r4ay106.net.upc.cz) |
| 11:26.03 | Arcaia | I use ClockFu ;P |
| 11:26.15 | JoshBorke | timeblock lets you specify the time format |
| 11:26.27 | Arcaia | clockfu is easy enough ;P |
| 11:26.28 | SunTsu | An I still am looking for a clock addon with one or two alarm clocks in it |
| 11:26.39 | *** join/#wowace quoin (n=quoin@219-90-222-116.ip.adam.com.au) |
| 11:26.44 | JoshBorke | SunTsu: when i finish with TimeBlock, you'll be able to set as many alarms as you want |
| 11:26.54 | xyu | i'm still looking for a clock addon that levels my chars for me >_< |
| 11:26.57 | xyu | while i sleep |
| 11:26.58 | SunTsu | JoshBorke: Sounds great |
| 11:27.10 | JoshBorke | SunTsu: how would you have the alarms "go off"? |
| 11:27.17 | SunTsu | xyu: You don't have that already? |
| 11:27.19 | cryogen | Tracking abilities such as "Find Minerals" now last through death |
| 11:27.24 | cryogen | really? about time! |
| 11:27.25 | Arcaia | next addon? |
| 11:27.32 | Arcaia | nice. |
| 11:27.39 | JoshBorke | sounds like you have everything you need |
| 11:27.43 | Arcaia | they need to make all selfbulfs last through death ;P |
| 11:28.07 | Arcaia | cause damnit, casting arcane intellect/frost armor takes up 63% of my mana at level 29. |
| 11:28.09 | SunTsu | JoshBorke: Mostly I'd like a sound and an alarm window. Maybe some sort of rocking like some addons do if you get aggro |
| 11:28.21 | Sithy__ | my rogue wants her swirly ball back :( |
| 11:28.24 | Arcaia | and if i res with half, that means i cant even self buff all the way |
| 11:28.29 | Arcaia | YES SWIRLY BALL |
| 11:28.33 | Arcaia | I miss it. |
| 11:28.35 | cryogen | Arcaia: /signed |
| 11:28.45 | cryogen | Arcaia: bgs are impossible as any sort of caster with buffs |
| 11:29.17 | Sithy__ | There is a weird bug atm, if you've been dead for a while you mana regens, if you get rezed you can rez with up to full mana... |
| 11:29.21 | Sithy__ | its kind of weird |
| 11:29.33 | _dreamss | yeah |
| 11:29.38 | Sithy__ | battle rezed a druid today and he popped up with full mana |
| 11:29.45 | _dreamss | its true |
| 11:29.53 | _dreamss | will it work for ankh? |
| 11:29.53 | Codayus | There are a *lot* of bugs with the patch. |
| 11:29.54 | JoshBorke | SunTsu: ok, that's what i was thinking too. red outline of the screen that flashes + a popup |
| 11:30.06 | Sithy__ | should woth with ankh, works with normal rez as well |
| 11:30.32 | Trell_ | cryogen> Arcaia: bgs are impossible as any sort of caster with buffs |
| 11:30.36 | Codayus | If I was a tiny bit more cynical, I'd suggest that Bliz breaks things on purpose just to watch the forums buzz. |
| 11:30.37 | Trell_ | worry no more in 2.3 |
| 11:30.40 | SunTsu | JoshBorke: Sounds great. That's something you really can't ignore and even less miss |
| 11:30.43 | cryogen | Trell_: oh? |
| 11:30.45 | Trell_ | on res and enter you're getting the arena stile 'buff period' |
| 11:30.49 | Sithy__ | Codayus, rofl |
| 11:30.51 | Trell_ | *style |
| 11:30.52 | cryogen | really? about time! |
| 11:31.00 | cryogen | free buffing is the shit |
| 11:31.06 | JoshBorke | SunTsu: it'll also have play time alarms so you can stop playing after X hours :-D |
| 11:31.11 | cryogen | wonder if you can buff others |
| 11:31.17 | Trell_ | guess so |
| 11:31.24 | cryogen | now they just need to make arena prep not cost reagents.. :p |
| 11:31.25 | Trell_ | since they are likening it to the arena buff period |
| 11:31.25 | _dreamss | did they fix the ub/lock bug? |
| 11:31.29 | Arcaia | any other addons? |
| 11:31.30 | Arcaia | anyone |
| 11:31.37 | Trell_ | Arcaia? |
| 11:31.38 | Sithy__ | make arena reagent free, I hate buffing like 15 buffs before the game starts. |
| 11:31.42 | cryogen | Sithy__: signed |
| 11:31.56 | Arcaia | looking for addon suggestions |
| 11:32.01 | Arcaia | for addons i dont have |
| 11:32.04 | Arcaia | that i should have |
| 11:32.06 | Arcaia | or that are nice |
| 11:32.07 | cryogen | fire up WUA, look down the list |
| 11:32.12 | JoshBorke | 2000 gold for a mount =/ |
| 11:32.12 | Sithy__ | I'm kind of glad my current spec doesnt have Improved DS in it. |
| 11:32.13 | Arcaia | do that daily |
| 11:32.13 | SunTsu | JoshBorke: Sounds nice. With /quit automatically, for even the most dedicated junkie ;) |
| 11:32.21 | SunTsu | JoshBorke: Or just a reminder? ;) |
| 11:32.28 | Arcaia | can only look up the ones that have wowace wiki pages |
| 11:32.35 | JoshBorke | SunTsu: just a reminder :-D |
| 11:32.36 | Arcaia | otherwise i dont know what they do |
| 11:32.53 | _dreamss | they have descriptions |
| 11:32.55 | CIA-22 | 03kilrogg * r50044 10Sanity2/ (Sanity2.toc SanityDisplay.lua SanityItemTemplate.xml): |
| 11:32.55 | CIA-22 | Sanity2: |
| 11:32.55 | CIA-22 | - Updated TOC 20200 |
| 11:32.55 | CIA-22 | - Fixed Sanity item tooltips (broken in WoW 2.2) |
| 11:32.57 | JoshBorke | the /quit feature can be implemented by parents ;-) |
| 11:33.00 | _dreamss | what u looking for anyways |
| 11:33.29 | Arcaia | i want suggestions >.> |
| 11:33.35 | Arcaia | mindless frill |
| 11:33.39 | Arcaia | blizzard replacements |
| 11:33.45 | Arcaia | nifty tweaks |
| 11:33.47 | Arcaia | stuff like that |
| 11:33.55 | Sithy__ | wowequip |
| 11:33.56 | JoshBorke | seeing as how we don't know what you use, it's harder for us to recommend stuff |
| 11:34.04 | _dreamss | what class do u play |
| 11:34.07 | _dreamss | do u pvp or pve |
| 11:34.09 | _dreamss | heh |
| 11:34.09 | JoshBorke | without you being like "nope, I've got it" |
| 11:34.25 | Arcaia | let me make a list ;P |
| 11:34.27 | Arcaia | of what i use |
| 11:34.40 | _dreamss | OH FUCK |
| 11:34.45 | Arcaia | pvp/pve - rogue leveling a frost mage, but let me get that list |
| 11:34.46 | _dreamss | i just broke all my addons |
| 11:34.47 | _dreamss | FUCK |
| 11:34.52 | Sithy__ | lol |
| 11:34.54 | Arcaia | i hate that. |
| 11:35.02 | _dreamss | Error: attempt to index local 'Bartender3' (a nil value)File: Interface\AddOns\Bartender3\Options.luaLine: 35Count: 1 |
| 11:35.19 | JoshBorke | sounds like you only broke bartender |
| 11:35.19 | _dreamss | Error: attempt to index global 'Bartender3' (a nil value)File: Interface\AddOns\DrDamage\DrDamage.luaLine: 106Count: 1 |
| 11:35.26 | _dreamss | and doc damage |
| 11:35.35 | pb_ee1 | try installing LibBrain-1.0 |
| 11:35.40 | cryogen | see now im in a pickle |
| 11:35.55 | cryogen | im currently levelling an alt, but 2.3 makes that experience a whole lot less painful |
| 11:36.00 | cryogen | so what do i do in the mean time |
| 11:36.10 | pb_ee1 | eat a cookie ! |
| 11:36.17 | JoshBorke | make gold |
| 11:36.19 | _dreamss | level ur alt? |
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| 11:36.33 | cryogen | i could like, raid for a while |
| 11:36.35 | Sithy | Arcaia, Littlewigs if you do 5 mans and want to annoy the rest of the party with announcements. |
| 11:36.38 | cryogen | instead |
| 11:36.41 | _dreamss | when 2.3 uw ill level faster and enjoy the changes at lvl 70 |
| 11:36.54 | *** join/#wowace giskard (n=giskard@62-101-126-218.ip.fastwebnet.it) |
| 11:36.57 | giskard | hello * |
| 11:37.09 | cryogen | i could be 60 before they release 2.3 tho |
| 11:37.12 | cryogen | depends how long they take |
| 11:37.21 | _dreamss | not long |
| 11:37.22 | Sithy | they say "soon" |
| 11:37.28 | giskard | i got this trying to run wowace with mono http://paste.debian.net/38133 |
| 11:37.31 | giskard | someone can help me? |
| 11:37.31 | cryogen | ya im hearing not long |
| 11:37.34 | _dreamss | half of the changes look like then done allready |
| 11:37.34 | Sithy | but thats blizzard soon, so I figure 2 months at the soonest. |
| 11:37.35 | nevcairiel | _dreamss: quit the game when you update bt3 |
| 11:37.36 | cryogen | but ive heard that before from blizzard :p |
| 11:37.37 | JoshBorke | i say 1 month |
| 11:37.52 | cryogen | a new instance usually takes a while to PTr |
| 11:38.35 | _dreamss | its done internally |
| 11:38.38 | Nickenyfiken | giskard: it's not written for mono |
| 11:38.46 | _dreamss | aka all end game guilds finished it LO |
| 11:38.51 | Arcaia | http://randomfew.net/random.public/uiss/addonlist.txt |
| 11:38.54 | Codayus | Hopefully ZA won't need much PTR testing since they've had so much time to test internally. |
| 11:39.06 | Arcaia | also if anyone wants a batch file that generates a quick directory list |
| 11:39.08 | Codayus | Might just be wishful thinking, I *WANT* 2.3. |
| 11:39.09 | Arcaia | http://randomfew.net/random.public/uiss/addonlist.bat ;P |
| 11:39.34 | Arcaia | So ---- http://randomfew.net/random.public/uiss/addonlist.txt ---- Recommend me things. |
| 11:39.36 | _dreamss | i dont see a v |
| 11:39.40 | Sithy | Codayus, me too but this is blizzard, they put it when they are ready. |
| 11:39.42 | _dreamss | LibBrain |
| 11:40.01 | Arcaia | libbrain? |
| 11:40.45 | cryogen | Codayus: they usually like to let people have a chance at playing with them though |
| 11:40.47 | *** join/#wowace Ordog (i=ordog@port-87-234-84-67.dynamic.qsc.de) |
| 11:40.52 | cryogen | so that will take a few weeks at leasr |
| 11:40.53 | _dreamss | i dont see a LibBrain :P |
| 11:41.01 | Codayus | "Zul'Aman is done. We just need to get the raid dungeon on the public test realms, and make sure it sees extensive testing. Don't worry, it won't require the same amount of testing as voice chat." |
| 11:41.04 | Arcaia | what is libbrain? |
| 11:41.13 | giskard | Nickenyfiken, ok. do you know how i can use wau under linux? |
| 11:41.23 | Sithy | okay healers, Spellsurge or 81 Healing? I prefer Spellsurge myself. |
| 11:41.26 | _dreamss | lol |
| 11:41.26 | Codayus | Extensive testing...could mean anything, really. Probably a lot more like "weeks" than "days" though. :-( |
| 11:41.34 | cryogen | ya |
| 11:41.38 | cryogen | 2-3 minimum |
| 11:41.39 | Nickenyfiken | giskard: WAU2 is written in Java. |
| 11:42.04 | Codayus | Sithy: I lean towards 81 healing, but it depends on your class, gear, tactics, the fight, and your raid leader... |
| 11:42.12 | giskard | Nickenyfiken, so i have to svn co it.. gcj it and hope it works? |
| 11:42.12 | _dreamss | WowAceUpdater.application |
| 11:42.18 | _dreamss | thats java? |
| 11:42.27 | Nickenyfiken | ~wau2 |
| 11:42.27 | purl | wau2 is probably http://wowace.com/wau2 |
| 11:42.29 | Nickenyfiken | ffs |
| 11:42.29 | giskard | no it's xml IIRC |
| 11:42.32 | Sithy | Codayus, yeah, love those broad questions. |
| 11:42.43 | Codayus | Sithy: I love to be helpful. :-D |
| 11:42.57 | Sithy | rofl |
| 11:43.16 | Sithy | I'm a regen whore |
| 11:43.17 | Arcaia | JoshBorke - http://randomfew.net/random.public/uiss/addonlist.txt - so any recommendations? |
| 11:43.23 | Codayus | But seriously, it really does depend on a lot. I think most people would say that 81 healing is MUCH better than spellsurge if it only benefits 1 person per proc. If your raid leader likes to stick you in with the rogues...not so good. |
| 11:43.34 | giskard | Nickenyfiken, what should i do with a .jnlp ? |
| 11:44.01 | Sithy | I am the raid leader! :p |
| 11:44.19 | _dreamss | im a resto shaman, i ask for my group to be casters |
| 11:44.28 | Codayus | Fair enough, you can probably stick yourself in with mana guzzling classes. |
| 11:44.39 | Nickenyfiken | giskard: Open with Java Web Start Launcher |
| 11:44.43 | Sithy | nah dude, 4xshadowpriests! -_- |
| 11:44.45 | _dreamss | shit i ask for the spriest |
| 11:44.48 | _dreamss | word |
| 11:45.10 | *** join/#wowace Moonie (n=Moonie@83.101.2.123) |
| 11:45.16 | Sithy | mana dps gets no love from me if we only have one shadow priest, more than one then they get some regen love. |
| 11:45.17 | Arcaia | I wanna know what DreamChat does |
| 11:45.33 | Nickenyfiken | It makes you dream about chats |
| 11:45.33 | supp | well i as a rogue if i get any other healer than a shaman for totems in my group i will instantly flame our raidleader |
| 11:46.03 | Arcaia | my guild had 0 shamans |
| 11:46.10 | Arcaia | we were 100% successful without them. |
| 11:46.14 | Codayus | If we have 1 shadow priest, they get put into a caster group. If we have 2 shadowpriests, the SECOND goes into a caster group. If we have 3, the healers get one. |
| 11:46.15 | supp | our typical melee group consists of a feral a shaman 2 rogues 1 fury warrior |
| 11:46.19 | dieck | Alliance, before BC? ;) |
| 11:46.27 | Arcaia | alliance, before/after |
| 11:46.28 | moonay | mine is mainly hunters and rogues, 3 pallys and 3 mages lol |
| 11:46.31 | _dreamss | shamans>pallies for raiding |
| 11:46.33 | _dreamss | heh |
| 11:46.40 | supp | if theres no shaman we add another rogue / warrior |
| 11:46.45 | _dreamss | healing way bumped up shamans nicely |
| 11:46.46 | Sithy | Typical raid for us has like max 6 healers, gimme shadow priest! |
| 11:46.49 | Codayus | That being said, we usually run 7 healers, so if they've got mana issues we're doing something wrong. If you run 6 healers, a spriest is more useful... |
| 11:46.50 | Arcaia | pallies = heals, shamans = ok buffs with Range problems. |
| 11:46.51 | supp | hunters are support for our mages / warlocks |
| 11:46.58 | supp | and we run 3 - 4 shadowpriest setup |
| 11:47.06 | supp | so any caster group has at least one shadow |
| 11:47.14 | supp | if we have 4 our raidhealers get 2 shadows |
| 11:47.16 | _dreamss | Arcaia, heh look at healing way and how its bugged |
| 11:47.31 | Sithy | hmm, what did they do this time? |
| 11:47.40 | Codayus | We've got a terrible shaman shortage. :-( |
| 11:47.46 | supp | we had some time ago |
| 11:47.51 | _dreamss | a few patches back they made healing way use your +healing |
| 11:47.52 | moonay | pallys =/= heals... they can be speced as healers but not all are. |
| 11:47.58 | supp | but our illidan kill kinda boosted our appliances of shamans :P |
| 11:48.02 | _dreamss | downranking is way nicer than any other classes |
| 11:48.26 | moonay | holypriests suck to solo with at low levels |
| 11:48.27 | [DiE]Celeb | yeah healing way don't take downranking into account |
| 11:48.27 | Sithy | ...wow |
| 11:48.44 | [DiE]Celeb | so lower ranks get like 2x the healing instead of 15% more |
| 11:48.46 | Arcaia | healing way uses + healing? |
| 11:48.49 | Arcaia | holy shiz. |
| 11:49.02 | Sithy | did they fix that though? One my resto shamans said his rank one was hitting for a lot lower. |
| 11:49.05 | Arcaia | I |
| 11:49.08 | _dreamss | my r1 hw starts at 60 then once healing way is stacked it does 300 |
| 11:49.11 | Arcaia | <3 Resto shamans, I had one pre-bc |
| 11:49.17 | Codayus | Sithy: I'm pretty sure the old functionality was the bug. :-( Other similar talents have the downrank penalty applied, which appears to be whats happening now... |
| 11:49.20 | [DiE]Celeb | havent tried it postpatch tho |
| 11:49.23 | _dreamss | r6 is like 1400 to 2k |
| 11:49.28 | Sithy | figured |
| 11:49.38 | moonay | I can't get along with the totems, just too much, I tried them on the PTR... |
| 11:49.48 | _dreamss | i did kz tuesday |
| 11:49.54 | _dreamss | and it seemed fine |
| 11:49.59 | Sithy | does healing way effect the op'd chain heal? I can't remember. |
| 11:50.06 | _dreamss | no |
| 11:50.10 | _dreamss | just healing wave |
| 11:50.16 | *** join/#wowace Jagobah (n=jago7777@adsl-32-170-27.owb.bellsouth.net) |
| 11:50.16 | _dreamss | 18% boost |
| 11:50.20 | _dreamss | 6% per stack |
| 11:50.34 | Arcaia | so noone has addon recommendaitons? |
| 11:50.35 | Sithy | you guys kind of need that tho |
| 11:50.50 | Sithy | ReTeal! |
| 11:51.00 | *** join/#wowace kenlyric (i=kenlyric@iu-itpo-vreris.itpo.iu.edu) |
| 11:51.02 | moonay | for what Arcaia |
| 11:51.03 | Sithy | makes shaman names look good again lol |
| 11:51.25 | Gngsk | anyone else notice spellbinder not handling modifier keys correctly? |
| 11:51.29 | _dreamss | http://www.ninjalooters.info/dreamss/WoWScrnShot_060807_113716.jpg |
| 11:51.35 | _dreamss | gogo 4 bars of totems |
| 11:51.38 | *** join/#wowace Mire (n=Mire@adsl-214-115-205.gnv.bellsouth.net) |
| 11:51.39 | _dreamss | downranking ftl |
| 11:51.55 | Arcaia | http://randomfew.net/random.public/uiss/addonlist.txt is my current addon list, looking for new addons, frills/minor tweaks/etc anything you think i might like |
| 11:52.42 | Vires | KTM & Omen? |
| 11:52.43 | Vires | Eh? |
| 11:52.49 | _dreamss | shes got rabbies! |
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| 11:53.04 | ausmara | Ellipsis, fix Mend Watch so it saves the bar position when you reload or relog! |
| 11:53.07 | Sithy | I don't think I could play a shaman, I wouldnt want to micro manage my totems lol |
| 11:53.12 | [DiE]Celeb | bind totems and hide bars already ^_^ |
| 11:53.29 | Sithy | had a druid tank nightbane last night, dual tremor totem ftw -_- |
| 11:53.33 | kenlyric | Gngsk: the game itself seems to be horking modifier key bindings. |
| 11:53.34 | Codayus | Talking about pain supression: "Most Priests would rather spec Confetti Explosion." |
| 11:53.37 | Codayus | Heh |
| 11:53.40 | [DiE]Celeb | actualy dont need tremors for that |
| 11:53.41 | Sithy | Codayus, !!! |
| 11:53.46 | Sithy | PHEEEE |
| 11:53.47 | [DiE]Celeb | he sticks on hte target nowadays |
| 11:53.47 | Imp4kT | Vires.. if you dont have KTM you dont show on other peoples KTM list, regardless of having Omen |
| 11:53.49 | moonay | quick question.. am looking at monitors cuz i want one lol .. any recommendations for games/photoshop |
| 11:53.50 | _dreamss | totems are mostly situanional. i use them all allmost all the time |
| 11:53.51 | Arcaia | ktm synchs with omen, and thus i have both for 6 mans |
| 11:54.02 | Arcaia | 5mans* |
| 11:54.07 | kenlyric | Gngsk: I have my mouse button four bound to Ctrl-C, and that's also bound to autorun, and it no longer works. |
| 11:54.09 | Vires | Imp4kT: Omen reports to KTM now. |
| 11:54.12 | Arcaia | because most non-raiders dont know about omen |
| 11:54.16 | Necrathex | is there any way to get the pitbull icon back on the minimap? |
| 11:54.20 | Imp4kT | Since when |
| 11:54.24 | _dreamss | server restart? |
| 11:54.25 | _dreamss | WTF |
| 11:54.28 | Sithy | there is an option to turn on broadcast to ktm |
| 11:54.28 | _dreamss | enable sound? |
| 11:54.32 | Sithy | probably |
| 11:54.35 | Sithy | what serveR? |
| 11:54.36 | Imp4kT | k |
| 11:54.38 | *** join/#wowace Nightdew_ (n=Nightdew@68.143.218.130.nw.nuvox.net) |
| 11:54.39 | _dreamss | stormscale |
| 11:54.40 | Vires | Open for Omen: Publish to KTM |
| 11:54.41 | Vires | etc |
| 11:54.47 | Sithy | yeah probably VC |
| 11:54.47 | *** part/#wowace Nightdew_ (n=Nightdew@68.143.218.130.nw.nuvox.net) |
| 11:54.52 | Sithy | they tried it yesterday |
| 11:54.56 | _dreamss | dosent ktm ignore omen? |
| 11:54.57 | Arcaia | anyways, ill have both |
| 11:55.03 | Arcaia | doesnt hurt ;p |
| 11:55.05 | Arcaia | moving on |
| 11:55.15 | Arcaia | any addon recommendations? |
| 11:55.17 | Vires | It hurts your CPU =p |
| 11:55.25 | moonay | Necrathex, no, it's config is now solely done through Rock Config, Ctrl click (or shift click) on your UF and you get Rock COnfig highlighting pitbull :) |
| 11:55.32 | Vires | Recount for flashy lookin' graphs =D |
| 11:55.56 | moonay | is the goal to kill his cpu? |
| 11:56.03 | _dreamss | i love the way rock config works, it can dispell all addons or just one |
| 11:56.05 | Vires | Maybe? |
| 11:56.10 | Necrathex | moonay: yes, i found that, but pitbull config is really extensive so sucks to do it via another menu |
| 11:56.12 | Sithy | Recount needs a way to save data |
| 11:56.16 | Vires | Install about 6 different unit frame types |
| 11:56.20 | *** join/#wowace [quoin] (n=quoin@219-90-222-116.ip.adam.com.au) |
| 11:56.25 | kenlyric | Sithy: maybe the save button? |
| 11:56.27 | moonay | then pull the heatsing and fan off of it :P works faster than trying to overload it with addons :P |
| 11:56.31 | Sithy | is there one now? |
| 11:56.34 | Sithy | -_- |
| 11:56.39 | kenlyric | to a text file, I think. |
| 11:56.44 | Arcaia | no data mods |
| 11:56.52 | Arcaia | they get too savedvariable heavy and im lazy |
| 11:56.55 | kenlyric | or turn off the option to clear out upon logout |
| 11:56.56 | Arcaia | so no recount/recap |
| 11:57.00 | Vires | You have a tooltip? Cowtip? |
| 11:57.00 | Arcaia | just no ;P |
| 11:57.01 | giskard | Nickenyfiken, javaws file.jnlp doesn't work.. i get a slapscreen but nothing else |
| 11:57.06 | moonay | Necrathex, there's no other way, though ckknight has expressed plans to include dewdrop like menus (though it's not urgent) |
| 11:57.09 | Arcaia | i have cowtip |
| 11:57.10 | Arcaia | next ;P |
| 11:57.16 | moonay | giskard, I have the same issue |
| 11:57.17 | Sithy | I have clear on logout off, but I want to be able to view more than just the last 5 fights |
| 11:57.24 | Vires | Why exactly do you want more? |
| 11:57.50 | Vires | ElkBuffBars |
| 11:57.53 | Imp4kT | Why dont my estimated heals work when I target other people on Pitbull |
| 11:57.59 | Nickenyfiken | giskard: OK, i don't know how to install it on linux. |
| 11:58.04 | Vires | Imp4kT: Get DrDamage |
| 11:58.09 | Imp4kT | I have it |
| 11:58.12 | moonay | Nickenyfiken, install what on which distro |
| 11:58.16 | Nickenyfiken | ~updaters |
| 11:58.17 | Vires | They aren't showing? Hmm |
| 11:58.24 | Arcaia | mindless frill. blizzard replacements, nifty tweaks,stuff like that |
| 11:58.24 | Vires | ~wau |
| 11:58.25 | purl | wau is, like, WowAceUpdater, found at http://www.wowace.com/wau/publish.htm - Easy mass update to all the addons you have installed from the Wowace repository, where many Ace addons reside. |
| 11:58.32 | Imp4kT | When I heal myself they show on both my frame and target |
| 11:58.33 | Arcaia | I play a rogue and a mage. |
| 11:58.38 | Imp4kT | But when I heal others it doesnt show |
| 11:58.40 | Arcaia | elkbuffbars? |
| 11:58.54 | Vires | Changes the way buffs looks.. makes them bars |
| 11:58.56 | moonay | Satrina's Buffframes are nice too, I swear y buffalo though |
| 11:58.57 | Sithy | Imp4kT, are the others in your group/raid? |
| 11:58.59 | moonay | by* |
| 11:59.03 | Arcaia | ct_buffmod >.> |
| 11:59.07 | giskard | Nickenyfiken, thank you for your time :) |
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| 11:59.17 | giskard | moonay, ok. so it's broken |
| 11:59.25 | Necrathex | moonay: oki, thanks for the info :) |
| 11:59.32 | _dreamss | Lightning Bolt casting time reduced to 2.5 seconds, and mana cost decreased. |
| 11:59.34 | _dreamss | OH BALLS |
| 11:59.38 | moonay | Necrathex, you're welcome :) |
| 11:59.41 | *** part/#wowace giskard (n=giskard@62-101-126-218.ip.fastwebnet.it) |
| 11:59.50 | Imp4kT | Raid Sithy |
| 11:59.53 | _dreamss | ele shamans getting 2.0 lb and 1.5 CL? |
| 11:59.55 | kenlyric | Lightning Bolt |
| 12:00.00 | _dreamss | holly balls |
| 12:00.07 | Vegeta]BT[ | how can i create own notes on a map with cartographer ? |
| 12:00.08 | Imp4kT | I can see what their HP and stuff |
| 12:00.10 | moonay | holly? lol |
| 12:00.11 | Sithy | Imp4kT, no clue then... mine has been working fine. |
| 12:00.14 | syeren | Is there any form of decent Prayer of Mending tracker around yet? |
| 12:00.15 | Imp4kT | :( |
| 12:00.18 | Arcaia | no the talent that reduced cast time |
| 12:00.21 | [DiE]Celeb | _dreamss thats a nerf for ele shamans :P |
| 12:00.25 | Arcaia | now only reduces .5 seconds at max |
| 12:00.31 | kenlyric | syeren: MendWatch |
| 12:00.33 | Sithy | syeren, MendWatch? |
| 12:00.37 | Imp4kT | doesnt work on my party frames either |
| 12:00.39 | Imp4kT | grr |
| 12:00.39 | [DiE]Celeb | same cast time talented, less base casttime for spelldmg |
| 12:00.47 | _dreamss | yes which bring lb down to 2.0 and cl to 1.5? |
| 12:00.48 | syeren | MendWatch forgets it's position everytime you /rl or relog at the moment. |
| 12:00.54 | syeren | And I have no idea how to fix it :( |
| 12:01.07 | Arcaia | hmm. i guess |
| 12:01.14 | Sithy | mine has been in the same spot |
| 12:01.17 | [DiE]Celeb | it's a buff to lightning bolt/chain lightning for non-ele shamans |
| 12:01.30 | Arcaia | any more suggestions vires? |
| 12:01.34 | Cheads | hmm when I have the auction house window open, then I cannot seperate a stack by shift+left clicking. ... annoying... |
| 12:01.46 | moonay | HAHAHA I just found out that my trackpoint of this old laptop works in linux and in windows it never did work decently!! Linux FTW! |
| 12:01.49 | _dreamss | same thing they did for wf and enhas/non enhas shamans |
| 12:01.53 | Vires | JumpCounter! |
| 12:01.54 | Vires | haha |
| 12:02.08 | Vires | Up to 1150 for this character >.< |
| 12:02.23 | MoonWitch | its amazing linux |
| 12:02.30 | MoonWitch | yes Moonay is me :P |
| 12:02.30 | _dreamss | blind no longer a poison? |
| 12:02.31 | _dreamss | LOL |
| 12:02.54 | _dreamss | Blind will no longer require a reagent. It will also be changed to a ranged physical attack, will share the same diminish category as Cyclone, and diminish in PvE as well as PvP. It will no longer be considered a poison |
| 12:02.56 | Vires | As of 2.2 Death Wish is no longer a Debuff. I can click it off =o |
| 12:02.56 | Arcaia | jumpcounter is fun, but historian does more, and thats too mindless for my tastes, believe it or not ;P |
| 12:03.22 | Sithy | I'd probably kill jumpcounter after one raid. |
| 12:03.59 | Arcaia | yea i constantly jump on bossfights.. being a rogue and all. |
| 12:04.27 | Sithy | I'm a priest and I jump around a lot on boss fights :p |
| 12:04.30 | omega_ | would be cool if there was a boss where you had to jump up to reach it :p |
| 12:04.40 | Sithy | eaiset way to tell my tanks I'm bored, take some damage. |
| 12:04.46 | omega_ | needed to time it with your swings :p |
| 12:05.03 | Sithy | swing timer wouldnt go until you got in range lol |
| 12:05.14 | Sithy | Ony was kind of like that, could use specials not melee |
| 12:05.15 | Vires | omega_: Shh! The WoW devs are listening! Don't give 'em ideas -.- |
| 12:05.40 | omega_ | Vires: its time melee get the same hell ranged casters do :p We need to keep pressin the nuke, you need to keep pressin the jump :p |
| 12:05.53 | Vires | lol |
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| 12:06.16 | Arcaia | ranged casters dont get hell |
| 12:06.31 | Arcaia | have you ever had to face mindless rogue-murdering aoe? |
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| 12:07.14 | Ellipsis | yeah I have to say, spamming a button while watching tv < avoiding melee range abilities |
| 12:07.23 | omega_ | ohh, another game play use of jump! |
| 12:07.27 | omega_ | the whip of death! |
| 12:07.29 | Vires | No, but I have been the bomb. |
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| 12:07.35 | _dreamss | u know, to avoid loot problems with heroic badges they should be auto loot and placed on players bags like gold |
| 12:07.36 | _dreamss | heh |
| 12:07.36 | omega_ | need to jump over a rope the boss twirls around |
| 12:07.53 | moonay | wb Ellipsis |
| 12:08.42 | kenlyric | 2000g to buy a mount seems excessive. It better turn me into a bug. |
| 12:08.48 | Vires | I still with Modality worked =( Miss the ability to change bars based on the macro conditions |
| 12:09.14 | moonay | 2000g? |
| 12:09.21 | moonay | which one is that/ |
| 12:09.35 | Vires | Takes 300 training too, doesn't it? |
| 12:09.37 | _dreamss | cenarion |
| 12:09.49 | _dreamss | 7k mount? eff that |
| 12:10.01 | Arcaia | my sword is missing. |
| 12:10.03 | Arcaia | on my rogue. |
| 12:10.07 | Sithy_ | no one knows what kind of mount it could be |
| 12:10.07 | Sithy_ | was a french EU CM that posted it? |
| 12:10.07 | Arcaia | >.> |
| 12:10.10 | _dreamss | apart for the fact u need exaxlted? |
| 12:10.19 | Sithy_ | like exalted CE is hard |
| 12:10.42 | ennuilg | Probably some form of crow/bird, like the druids and the stormcrow quest there, is my guess. |
| 12:10.49 | Tornhoof | for 2k gold? |
| 12:10.49 | Tornhoof | nah |
| 12:10.54 | Codayus | Possibly a giant firefly. |
| 12:10.54 | _dreamss | heh |
| 12:10.58 | Sithy_ | money sink go! |
| 12:11.00 | _dreamss | i rather get the netherdrake |
| 12:11.05 | _dreamss | and get 5k gold back |
| 12:11.07 | _dreamss | u know? |
| 12:11.10 | Sithy_ | Spoon mount. |
| 12:11.10 | kenlyric | maybe it's a type |
| 12:11.14 | kenlyric | typo |
| 12:11.17 | kenlyric | 2000 for 200 |
| 12:11.22 | Sithy_ | I'm thinking it is |
| 12:11.28 | the-golem | kenlyric : 2000? isnt it 5000? wait, the skill or the mount itself? |
| 12:11.30 | Sithy_ | since all the other mounts are 200 from the vendor |
| 12:11.38 | _dreamss | skill is 5k |
| 12:11.43 | _dreamss | they selling the mount for 2k |
| 12:11.58 | woden | tight bastards |
| 12:12.02 | kenlyric | guess I'd need to be exalted with CE for it to matter. |
| 12:12.33 | the-golem | 5000g is expensive |
| 12:12.35 | the-golem | i had 1k once |
| 12:12.45 | the-golem | then i started raiding every fucking day |
| 12:12.48 | kenlyric | fail. |
| 12:12.51 | Sithy_ | dailys |
| 12:13.06 | Vires | I have two characters on two different servers with the 300 skill mounts =/ Working on a 3rd but really really slowly |
| 12:13.08 | Ellipsis | sigh |
| 12:13.12 | kenlyric | get mount before raiding, of course. |
| 12:13.22 | the-golem | that requires finding a group do finish the goddamn ogrila prereq |
| 12:13.23 | the-golem | s |
| 12:13.31 | the-golem | drak-thul is soooo underpopulated |
| 12:14.00 | SunTsu | the-golem: Doing dailies will geht you 72g every day for abaout an hour work. Having riding(300) ist will give you 150g every day for about 1,5 hours time |
| 12:14.09 | moonay | going now.. gonna hit the shower, beat the shower to pulp... |
| 12:14.38 | Sithy_ | not to mention all the crap you collect when grinding to exalted netherwing |
| 12:15.03 | kenlyric | I had 2k g when I hit 70. Bought 225 riding and mount. Had the money for the epic in two weeks, just finisshing up questing in shadowmoon and netherstorm. |
| 12:15.22 | _dreamss | getting the netherdrake mount will make u 5k gold |
| 12:15.22 | SunTsu | Sithy_: Yeah, right. I just calculated that into the 150g ;) |
| 12:15.23 | _dreamss | heh |
| 12:15.30 | ramoz | SunTsu: its more? i got ~130g every day from dailies |
| 12:15.30 | kenlyric | Sithy, well, you can't use netherwing to get 300 riding skill :) |
| 12:15.31 | the-golem | SunTsu: what dailys besides skettis and ogrila are there? (ogrila i cant do yet) |
| 12:15.43 | ramoz | euhm |
| 12:15.50 | ramoz | nevermind me SunTsu |
| 12:15.53 | kenlyric | and re: the above, I'm the laziest wow player in the world. I don't grind for shit. If I can make that money, anyone can. |
| 12:15.54 | Sithy_ | SunTsu, no way its 1.5 hours, not with that stupid relic quest -_- |
| 12:16.03 | Sithy_ | well no when 2.1 came out anyway. |
| 12:16.04 | ramoz | you dont have to do the relic? |
| 12:16.05 | the-golem | and dont say netherwing, cuz i dont have that either ^^ |
| 12:16.08 | Codayus | What if your too lazy to do daily quests? |
| 12:16.16 | SunTsu | the-golem: One PvP daily, but it only gives 2g |
| 12:16.20 | Sithy_ | if you're grind the rep you do so its over faster! :D |
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| 12:16.33 | _dreamss | im to lazy for daily quests |
| 12:16.35 | _dreamss | heh |
| 12:16.43 | Sithy_ | I got to 3k gold and stopped doing them |
| 12:16.57 | _dreamss | i did the pre quests |
| 12:16.59 | _dreamss | and thats all |
| 12:17.02 | Sithy_ | only did enough to cover repairs and consumables. |
| 12:17.11 | _dreamss | to scared of getting ganked |
| 12:17.16 | the-golem | lol |
| 12:17.17 | Arcaia | i think its funny on my server |
| 12:17.19 | Ellipsis | sigh |
| 12:17.22 | Ellipsis | realm restart =[ |
| 12:17.23 | baer_ | hmm... |
| 12:17.25 | _dreamss | warlord tag and 100hks get u ganked |
| 12:17.26 | Arcaia | the amount of 12 year olds who have MS warriors |
| 12:17.30 | Arcaia | and think its funny |
| 12:17.36 | baer_ | my cartographer does not collect new mineral/flower spots... |
| 12:17.38 | Arcaia | to message every damn rogue they see |
| 12:17.40 | Arcaia | to duel them |
| 12:18.00 | _dreamss | hahaha |
| 12:18.04 | _dreamss | yeah |
| 12:18.14 | SunTsu | Sithy_: Well, the first time you do it will take longer, but my strategy was to obtain both collecting quests in netherwing and doing them one of them a day, so while doing one you normally get half the things you need for the other one, at least if you are skinner |
| 12:18.58 | Ellipsis | are netherdrakes and other rep-required epic mounts cheaper than regular epics? |
| 12:19.00 | Sithy_ | SunTsu, I spent lots of time out there grinding stuff... but I spent most of it with a MS Warrior so I just pulled stuff to him and he killed it for me. :D |
| 12:19.09 | SunTsu | Ellipsis: The drake is for free |
| 12:19.15 | Ellipsis | oh snap |
| 12:19.19 | Ellipsis | how long does it take to get the rep? |
| 12:19.22 | Sithy_ | first drake is free |
| 12:19.50 | Sithy_ | does a normal 60% mount get transformed? I never tried. |
| 12:20.04 | Ellipsis | transformed? o.O |
| 12:20.13 | SunTsu | Ellipsis: If you do all the quests on netherwing every day, about 2 weeks |
| 12:20.19 | lolinternet | ~rip Antiarc |
| 12:20.20 | purl | ACTION takes Antiarc and acts as Jack The Ripper |
| 12:20.21 | Ellipsis | hm |
| 12:20.35 | Ellipsis | I guess I'll have to look up those quests ^-^ |
| 12:20.39 | Sithy_ | you "get" a netherdrake when you are on the island with the whole orc outfit. |
| 12:20.41 | sag_ich_nicht | ~stab Antiarc |
| 12:20.42 | purl | ACTION runs at Antiarc with an origami Swiss Army knife, and inflicts a nasty paper cut. |
| 12:20.45 | Ellipsis | orc outfit? |
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| 12:20.58 | Ellipsis | I've never done rep stuff so I dunno how all of that stuff works XD |
| 12:21.05 | Grum | the only way to make money is grinding (whatever way you turn it) |
| 12:21.21 | kenlyric | lies |
| 12:21.24 | Sithy_ | your transformed into a fel orc when in the netherwing place, assuming you have an epic flyer and have done the kindness questline. |
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| 12:21.34 | kenlyric | mining + herbalism. Never kill a single mob :) |
| 12:21.39 | CIA-22 | 03phyber * r50045 10Cosplay/Cosplay.toc: |
| 12:21.39 | CIA-22 | Cosplay: |
| 12:21.39 | CIA-22 | - Added X-Category: Interface Enhancements |
| 12:21.44 | Grum | gathering is still grinding |
| 12:21.50 | kenlyric | Cosplay. |
| 12:21.52 | kenlyric | lol |
| 12:21.56 | _dreamss | nether cobra hide is a button of cash tho |
| 12:22.13 | Ellipsis | Sithy: I've done the kindness line, I assume all the way |
| 12:22.21 | Ellipsis | but I don't get turned into an orc o.O |
| 12:22.25 | SunTsu | Sithy_: Well, you really only need the riding skill, not the mount itself |
| 12:22.32 | Grum | Ellipsis: only cool people get turned into one |
| 12:22.36 | Ellipsis | =[ |
| 12:22.39 | _dreamss | any chance u guys ddid the season quests on a be/drnai? |
| 12:22.42 | Ellipsis | I is not cool |
| 12:22.42 | Sithy_ | yeah, sorry epic riding skill |
| 12:22.47 | _dreamss | they were broken last i checked |
| 12:22.57 | Sithy_ | but I wouldnt want to be out there without an epic.. spend the 200g its worth it lol |
| 12:23.53 | Tigerdyr | hm, the Tablet lib should provide an easy way of handling small frames - like the one from Fubar_GroupFu (Rolling) right? |
| 12:24.15 | Grum | Sithy: dont forgetthe 5000 for the skill :( |
| 12:24.27 | Ellipsis | I have 350g |
| 12:24.30 | Ellipsis | and a non-epic flyer |
| 12:24.35 | Grum | you are cheap Ellipsis ^^ |
| 12:24.38 | Ellipsis | and I still need my Spellstrike set |
| 12:24.39 | Grum | erm borke |
| 12:24.41 | Grum | broke! |
| 12:24.44 | Ellipsis | lol Grum :P |
| 12:24.44 | Sithy_ | quick get some epic world drops! |
| 12:24.50 | Sithy_ | I can't even remember how I got the 5k for mine |
| 12:24.51 | kenlyric | Ellipsis: that's your first problem. |
| 12:24.53 | Grum | =D |
| 12:25.01 | kenlyric | Epic mount comes first. Don'tt waste a single cent on stupid professions. |
| 12:25.02 | Ellipsis | I almost got a blue world drop today! |
| 12:25.05 | Sithy_ | just ran into a few good drops that AH'd good. |
| 12:25.09 | Arcaia | I have 53g |
| 12:25.11 | Ellipsis | kenlyric: gear > fast flight |
| 12:25.14 | kenlyric | no. |
| 12:25.15 | Arcaia | some random play just gave me 50 of it |
| 12:25.21 | Arcaia | and a non-epic flyer ;P |
| 12:25.21 | Ellipsis | it's not about professions - I've put off my ench skillups |
| 12:25.23 | Arcaia | I win. |
| 12:25.23 | Sithy_ | 375 Tailor / 375 Enchanter before I got my flyer, joy. |
| 12:25.23 | kenlyric | you'll have all the time in the world to get gear. |
| 12:25.30 | Grum | Ellipsis: lol pics |
| 12:25.36 | Ellipsis | 375 tailor / 365 enchanter >_> |
| 12:25.42 | Arcaia | 350 Eng/375 Alchemy ;P |
| 12:25.44 | Ellipsis | the tailoring I had at level 62 though |
| 12:25.55 | Grum | Ellipsis: you are like nearly the same as my gf's alt so it seems :D |
| 12:25.58 | Ellipsis | heh |
| 12:26.00 | Grum | you also have a gnome warrior as main? O.o |
| 12:26.07 | Sithy_ | getting to 375 enchanting just go easier... I did it with the ring enchants... they used godly amounts of mats |
| 12:26.12 | Sithy_ | got easier* |
| 12:26.20 | kenlyric | well, that's why you don't have an epic flyer :) |
| 12:26.31 | Sithy_ | I have one, just took me a bit :p |
| 12:26.34 | Grum | Sithy: you can do it with those enchants only? |
| 12:26.35 | kenlyric | not you |
| 12:26.37 | Ellipsis | kenlyric - why? |
| 12:26.40 | Grum | the ring-enchants are like free atm |
| 12:26.43 | Sithy_ | if you use +20 healing yes |
| 12:26.57 | kenlyric | Ellipsis: because epic flying is one giant drop of cash at a time. professions and gear nickle and dime you to death. |
| 12:27.02 | Sithy_ | but you need to get to like 365 or 370 to use that one. |
| 12:27.06 | Ellipsis | I am saving up every penny I have for the flyer |
| 12:27.16 | Ellipsis | I haven't spent a single copper on professions |
| 12:27.31 | Ellipsis | and gear...I bought some green gems for my FSW, sue me |
| 12:27.33 | kenlyric | I've not been able to keep above 200g since then, there's always something to buy. |
| 12:27.34 | Grum | lol cheap .. 10 Enchant Ring Spellpower |
| 12:27.39 | Grum | and then 5x Enchant Ring Healingpower |
| 12:27.41 | Ellipsis | but I seriously have been saving up |
| 12:27.53 | Grum | it's ok to let it go once in a while Ellipsis |
| 12:27.56 | kenlyric | my enchanting is wallowing in 322. |
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| 12:27.58 | Fisker-- | shouldn't your corpse be ressable in the air? |
| 12:28.03 | Sithy_ | I just didn't make any money leveling, I used all my netherweave to level tailoring and greens from that to level enchanting. |
| 12:28.07 | Ellipsis | Fisker-: if you can get close enough |
| 12:28.25 | Fisker-- | yeah but they said they were going to fix it |
| 12:28.29 | Grum | warlocks are like shadoompriests .. so easy to gear up |
| 12:28.36 | kenlyric | Sithy_: that also means you didn't have any gathering professions, which are a huge source of income... especially in the early days of tbc. |
| 12:28.42 | kenlyric | leather was so outrageous. |
| 12:28.43 | Grum | !c eu doomhammer taralish |
| 12:28.44 | _dreamss | u just need sta and spell dmg for a lock |
| 12:28.45 | ThraeBot | Grum: Taralish, Level 70 Human Warlock (0/21/40). 8662 HP; 8353 Mana; 123 mana regen; 219 spell crit; 47 spell hit; 669 +spell dmg; 179 frost dmg (848); 269 shadow dmg (938); 4.95% dodge;[[ TBR: 1283 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/2y6oma ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/3al9tp ][ Updated: Thu Sep 27 08:43:38 2007 EST ]] |
| 12:28.46 | _dreamss | lol |
| 12:28.46 | Sithy_ | lol@Mining |
| 12:28.53 | Ellipsis | kenlyric, not everyone has the option of taking gatheering professions... |
| 12:28.59 | kenlyric | sure you do. |
| 12:29.00 | Sithy_ | before Khorium spawns, those were the days |
| 12:29.01 | Grum | that's after ~10days (2 ingame) on lvl70 |
| 12:29.06 | charon | afternoon |
| 12:29.32 | Ellipsis | I had 300 enchanting and 300 tailoring before expansion, what was I supposed to do? |
| 12:29.35 | kenlyric | crafting professions are bogus when levellingg, reskill them up when you don't need the cash anymore. |
| 12:29.47 | Grum | kenlyric: except for tailoring |
| 12:29.51 | kenlyric | no. |
| 12:29.55 | Ellipsis | drop them, gather, and then pick them up again, buying hundreds of gold worth of recipes over again? |
| 12:29.57 | kenlyric | bogus when levelling. |
| 12:29.59 | Sithy_ | Not when you have rare patterns and formulas you don't want to lose. |
| 12:30.05 | Ellipsis | and that's just the recipes you *can* still get |
| 12:30.13 | Sithy_ | twink still want +20 fire and frost lol -_- |
| 12:30.17 | kenlyric | oh yeah, your purple silk shirt. GIANT LOSS |
| 12:30.27 | Ellipsis | Robe of Winter Night <<gg |
| 12:30.38 | Sithy_ | srsly! |
| 12:30.53 | Ellipsis | !p pattern: robe of winter night |
| 12:30.54 | ThraeBot | Ellipsis: Name: Pattern: Robe of Winter Night; Vendor: 50s [[ http://www.wowecon.com ]] |
| 12:31.00 | Ellipsis | helpful, ThraeBot, really |
| 12:31.03 | kenlyric | well, I guess it depends on how you value things. |
| 12:31.12 | Ellipsis | oh right that's BoP |
| 12:31.14 | Grum | kenlyric: getting 375 the second you ding lvl70 is needed when you are cloth-caster |
| 12:31.15 | Ellipsis | >_> |
| 12:31.22 | kenlyric | Grum: no. |
| 12:31.27 | Grum | tailoring that is ofc :) |
| 12:31.43 | Sithy_ | its not needed but it sure is a good thing |
| 12:31.44 | kenlyric | desired != needed. |
| 12:31.56 | Grum | if you are anything like 'serious' in this game its needed ^^ |
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| 12:31.57 | sb | hmm token-bosses in ssc are still 2 token + 1 item? |
| 12:32.03 | sb | or 2 token + 2 item? |
| 12:32.07 | Grum | 2+1 |
| 12:32.14 | sb | (yes, i know - non token is 3 items ;o) |
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| 12:32.23 | Grum | but hydross/lurker/morogrim dropped 3 items yesterday |
| 12:32.24 | Ellipsis | kenlyric, if you want enough gear to be able to run instances (hey, instance runs make money too) |
| 12:32.26 | Arcaia | ive decided my next 3 days are going towards switching from scryers to aldor |
| 12:32.34 | Arcaia | Vindicator's brand |
| 12:32.35 | Grum | Arcaia: class? |
| 12:32.36 | kenlyric | you can perform outstandingly in karazhan with blue dungeon gear. |
| 12:32.38 | Arcaia | rogue |
| 12:32.43 | SunTsu | kenlyric: How so? I look into AH each and every day, and really very seldomly find anything to buy |
| 12:32.47 | kenlyric | you don't need FSW |
| 12:33.00 | Grum | kenlyric: sure but you need to grind a lot for that, possibly more than for the epic craftables |
| 12:33.32 | Arcaia | I'm almost revered with Scryers |
| 12:33.38 | Arcaia | so its a - long - grind. |
| 12:33.40 | Grum | but we got spellstrike head/pants + girdle of ruination + frozen shadoweave on the first weekend she got lvl70 |
| 12:33.44 | Sithy_ | Arcaia, why for the sword? |
| 12:33.54 | Ellipsis | kenlyric: FSW cost me 0g, and I had it at level 63 - before I did any quests in Outlands. |
| 12:33.54 | Grum | seriously, that is wacky dmg increase :D |
| 12:33.56 | Arcaia | because... the sword is better? |
| 12:34.02 | Ellipsis | so don't tell me I "wasted" my money on it |
| 12:34.07 | kenlyric | Grum: so, overpowered in exchange for loss of cash. It's all about priorities. |
| 12:34.08 | Sithy_ | just go for blinkstrike, save the time and money lol |
| 12:34.14 | Arcaia | and im sick of being a damn dagger rogue? |
| 12:34.14 | Sithy_ | or a spiteblade lol -_- |
| 12:34.24 | Arcaia | blinkstrike on my server is 1900g |
| 12:34.37 | Arcaia | ive ran kara about 30 times, its dropped once, and another rogue took it |
| 12:34.40 | Sithy_ | going revered scryer to exalted aldor will cost you? |
| 12:34.42 | Arcaia | ive since stopped running |
| 12:34.56 | Grum | 1000 years of grinding |
| 12:34.57 | Arcaia | im gonna just collect the venom sacs myself |
| 12:35.12 | Arcaia | 17hours roughly, i can about 1shot the spiders. |
| 12:35.18 | CIA-22 | 03shamino * r50046 10Auction-1.0/Auction-1.0.toc: |
| 12:35.18 | CIA-22 | Auction-1.0: |
| 12:35.19 | CIA-22 | - updated toc for patch 2.2 |
| 12:35.19 | Grum | as rogue? geez |
| 12:35.20 | Arcaia | and its roughly a 1 in 3 drop rate |
| 12:35.39 | Sithy_ | 1 in 3 will soon change to 1 in 100, love random drop rates. |
| 12:35.43 | Sithy_ | thats what always happens to me |
| 12:36.33 | Ellipsis | kenlyric: so why am I still poor when I haven't done anything since 70 but quest and run instances? |
| 12:36.48 | Ellipsis | the only thing I've bought is a handful of green gems and one primal might because it was a good deal |
| 12:36.48 | Grum | cheap^Hbroke! |
| 12:36.50 | kenlyric | Ellipsis: that's up to you and your god, I guess. |
| 12:36.52 | Ellipsis | >_> |
| 12:36.58 | kenlyric | but see what I said before. Nothing costs 0g. |
| 12:37.03 | Ellipsis | yes |
| 12:37.06 | Ellipsis | nothing costs 0g |
| 12:37.08 | Ellipsis | and I've bought nothing |
| 12:37.08 | Arcaia | well i jost bought 40 off the AH >.> |
| 12:37.10 | Ellipsis | which cost me 0g |
| 12:37.11 | kenlyric | you make tradeoffs. |
| 12:37.20 | Ellipsis | my point is that I haven't *made* any tradeoffs |
| 12:37.26 | Ellipsis | unless you expect me to stop paying repair bills |
| 12:37.27 | kenlyric | yes, but you also didn't have gathering professions. So you lost that gold. |
| 12:37.31 | Sithy_ | repairs = spending? |
| 12:37.55 | Arcaia | i dont have any gather profesiions ;P |
| 12:37.57 | Ellipsis | kenlyric, it would have cost me more to re-level and buy all the patterns back than I could make in a month of farming |
| 12:38.13 | Ellipsis | even if I just dropped tailoring which is fairly easy to level |
| 12:38.19 | Grum | lol |
| 12:38.25 | kenlyric | Ellipsis: that's a common misconception. For one thing, the market settles down and things got much cheaper once y ou hit 70 :) |
| 12:38.29 | Grum | 350-375 is complete frikking horror |
| 12:38.39 | kenlyric | the market was crazy lopsided for gathereres in the first month of TBC |
| 12:38.46 | Sithy_ | 350 - 360 was easy. |
| 12:38.47 | Ellipsis | kenlyric: pre-TBC recipes are the ones that I would have lost, and those are going UP in price, not down |
| 12:38.51 | Ellipsis | because nobody farms them |
| 12:39.07 | Grum | no-one uses em as well |
| 12:39.08 | Grum | so who cares :D |
| 12:39.08 | Ellipsis | I'm not stupid, I'm not saying that netherweave would cost me a ton now |
| 12:39.09 | *** join/#wowace Wogroipl (n=Wogroipl@c529c7a0e.cable.wanadoo.nl) |
| 12:39.10 | kenlyric | which pre-tbc recipes do you use? |
| 12:39.13 | Sithy_ | 375 took some doing, but I got the arcanoweave robe from Mech... so that was orange from 370 to 375 |
| 12:39.21 | Ellipsis | kenlyric: that I can still get now? |
| 12:39.23 | Grum | Sithy_: that is lucky as hell then |
| 12:39.34 | Arcaia | engineering/alchemy = money sinks, but so helpful its not funny |
| 12:39.37 | kenlyric | you only need to buy something like 10-15 recipes to level to 375. |
| 12:39.40 | Ellipsis | don't get me started on the old AQ enchants that they only just added replacements for |
| 12:39.43 | kenlyric | Ellipsis: period, which ones do you use? |
| 12:39.51 | Sithy_ | Imbued Nethereave Tunic ftw, but its yellow at 370 lol |
| 12:40.05 | kenlyric | yeah, aq40 enchants would be the one thing to keep me from dropping enchanting. Cause they were worth a lot lot lot of gold |
| 12:40.14 | Grum | Sithy_: i got lucky and got 5/5 .. my gf got 5/8 :( |
| 12:40.15 | Ellipsis | any weapon enchant from pre-TBC can be sold for twinks |
| 12:40.20 | kenlyric | if you had aq40 enchants, why aren't you rich? :) |
| 12:40.29 | Ellipsis | kenlyric: because I'm not, *shrug* |
| 12:40.36 | Grum | blonde as well! |
| 12:40.39 | Ellipsis | nah uh! |
| 12:40.42 | Ellipsis | well...maybe a little |
| 12:41.05 | Grum | give pics so we can judge |
| 12:41.11 | Ellipsis | lol |
| 12:41.13 | Ellipsis | giev addon kthx |
| 12:41.17 | Grum | k |
| 12:41.17 | kenlyric | I'm still debating which profession I'm going to drop for WotLK |
| 12:41.41 | Grum | i cant drop anything atm :) |
| 12:41.44 | Grum | tailor/alch |
| 12:41.49 | *** join/#wowace cladhaire (n=cladhair@WoWUIDev/WoWI/Featured/Dongle/cladhaire) |
| 12:41.49 | *** mode/#wowace [+v cladhaire] by ChanServ |
| 12:41.50 | kenlyric | I can drop tailoring. |
| 12:42.02 | Grum | i cant, got ssc/tk belt recipies O.o |
| 12:42.08 | Ellipsis | kenlyric: as for AQ enchants, I was a non-raiding member of a server leading guild, so on off-nights they did fun runs and let noobs like me come along |
| 12:42.29 | Grum | and a noob .. geez |
| 12:43.13 | Wogroipl | hoi |
| 12:43.13 | kenlyric | I could technically drop tailoring and enchanting, since I'm getting no benefit out of either. |
| 12:43.24 | Ellipsis | my T2 helm came from a 12-man guild ony :( |
| 12:43.25 | kenlyric | PMC becomes a lot less of a draw in 2.3 |
| 12:43.32 | Wogroipl | how is the current state of addons, lots of bugs? |
| 12:43.41 | Sithy_ | cause of the med buff? |
| 12:43.50 | Ellipsis | Wogroipl: all addons ever created? yeah there are probably some bugs |
| 12:43.57 | Sithy_ | update EVERYTHING! |
| 12:44.01 | ramoz | PMC? |
| 12:44.04 | kenlyric | it's still a bonus to regen, but the overall effect is diminished. |
| 12:44.06 | Sithy_ | or you won't have tooltips for most things |
| 12:44.14 | Ellipsis | primal mooncloth |
| 12:44.15 | Sithy_ | yeah, the stats are still very strong |
| 12:44.19 | ramoz | kenlyric: PMC? |
| 12:44.26 | Ellipsis | ramoz, primal mooncloth |
| 12:44.29 | Sithy_ | lacking stam is the real big issue |
| 12:44.32 | ramoz | aha |
| 12:44.33 | Wogroipl | nah, I mean the popular addons, Pitbull, Cart, Quartz, BigWigs |
| 12:44.48 | Ellipsis | Wogroipl: afaik they are all working perfectly |
| 12:44.50 | kenlyric | plus, of course, it will be meaningless in WotLK |
| 12:44.51 | Ellipsis | just update |
| 12:44.51 | Sithy_ | I'll drop it as soon as I can a few things that are close to replace it. |
| 12:45.03 | Wogroipl | Ellipsis: yay :) |
| 12:45.17 | Ellipsis | actually there is a minor issue still in Cartographer with coloring party circles on the map...but it's definitely not game-breaking :P |
| 12:45.32 | Wogroipl | Ellipsis I'll do a zip of my current folder mevertheless ;) |
| 12:45.43 | *** join/#wowace _neuron_ (n=x@85.252.67.93) |
| 12:45.56 | vhaarr | Wogroipl: BigWigs is just dandy, and if you find a bug, let me know. |
| 12:45.59 | Wogroipl | m = n |
| 12:46.22 | Fisker-- | i founds a bug vhaarr |
| 12:46.28 | Wogroipl | vhaarr:I will |
| 12:46.39 | Fisker-- | it doesn't allow me to take control over another players character |
| 12:46.42 | Arcaia | vhaar -> battleground stuff would be coolz ;P |
| 12:47.02 | kenlyric | I had my very first WoW dream last night. |
| 12:47.07 | vhaarr | Arcaia: No, it wouldn't. |
| 12:47.08 | Fisker-- | 5 minutes until GM appears and kicks you out! |
| 12:47.09 | kenlyric | It was a new and *totally awesome* AV |
| 12:47.19 | vhaarr | Fisker--: I'd listen to you, but I'm busy picking my nose. |
| 12:48.31 | baer_ | *hehe* |
| 12:48.35 | Ellipsis | OMG WORST UNDOCUMENTED PATCH CHANGE EVAR |
| 12:48.41 | Ellipsis | they got rid of Griftah =[ |
| 12:48.46 | [DiE]Celeb | no |
| 12:48.48 | baer_ | i could use some "publish"-function in ccbreaker to /rw or /s :) |
| 12:48.49 | [DiE]Celeb | moved outside |
| 12:48.49 | Fisker-- | no |
| 12:48.52 | Fisker-- | ^^ |
| 12:49.02 | Ellipsis | does he still sell his items? |
| 12:49.05 | [DiE]Celeb | ye |
| 12:49.06 | *** part/#wowace Dhouu (n=auake@212.25.35.110) |
| 12:49.08 | Sithy_ | people have no sense of humor :( |
| 12:49.12 | kenlyric | it was still the same size, but had a bunch of different areas of different weather, and in addition to horde vs alliance, it had scyer vs aldor. And there was no big boss, it was all these tiny objectives. |
| 12:49.13 | Ellipsis | oh, *whew* |
| 12:49.32 | kenlyric | and it was so much fun I didn't want to wake up. |
| 12:49.42 | Ellipsis | kenlyric, that was your first ever? |
| 12:49.50 | kenlyric | i believe so. |
| 12:49.55 | Ellipsis | noooooooob |
| 12:50.03 | mykx | I think there's therapists that can help you kenlyric |
| 12:50.05 | kenlyric | no, not really. |
| 12:50.13 | kenlyric | to both of you |
| 12:50.18 | Ellipsis | I have WoW dreams a few times a week |
| 12:50.42 | kenlyric | nerd. |
| 12:50.43 | si-m1 | I dream of wiping on trash |
| 12:50.46 | si-m1 | it sucks |
| 12:50.56 | Ellipsis | actually |
| 12:51.05 | Ellipsis | the only dream I had this week was a really creepy non-WoW one |
| 12:51.07 | Ellipsis | >_> |
| 12:51.08 | kenlyric | I think I dreamed it because it's a *totally* excellent idea for a battleground. |
| 12:51.11 | sag_ich_nicht | hold it |
| 12:51.14 | sag_ich_nicht | stfu |
| 12:51.15 | sag_ich_nicht | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=1778047558&sid=1&pageNo=2#31 |
| 12:51.17 | sag_ich_nicht | ~party |
| 12:51.18 | purl | Woohoo! Bot on the loose! |
| 12:51.41 | Ellipsis | ~lart sag_ich_nicht |
| 12:51.41 | purl | moos at sag_ich_nicht |
| 12:51.49 | Ellipsis | interesting lart, purl |
| 12:51.50 | sag_ich_nicht | ~whalecrit Ellipsis |
| 12:51.51 | purl | ACTION crits Ellipsis with a mathematically skilled whale named Isaac for #NaN. Ellipsis dies |
| 12:52.08 | kenlyric | ~whaleblock sag_ich_nicht |
| 12:52.08 | purl | ACTION shields sag_ich_nicht with a freakishly huger whale named ollywag |
| 12:52.15 | kenlyric | dammit |
| 12:52.18 | Ellipsis | ~spank sag_ich_nicht |
| 12:52.19 | purl | ACTION bends sag_ich_nicht over his knee and tatoos 'ibot' on sag_ich_nicht's pasty white buttocks. |
| 12:52.19 | sag_ich_nicht | AHAHAHAHAHAHA |
| 12:52.20 | kenlyric | my logic failed |
| 12:52.27 | sag_ich_nicht | mhm |
| 12:52.31 | Gngsk | hunters can learn 2h axe, right? |
| 12:52.35 | kenlyric | yes |
| 12:52.37 | Ellipsis | HUNTER WEAPON |
| 12:52.39 | Gngsk | cool, thx |
| 12:52.41 | Ellipsis | >_> |
| 12:52.43 | I_D | hahaha |
| 12:52.46 | sag_ich_nicht | if only that his was a her in that sentence from purl. |
| 12:52.50 | kenlyric | we also can learn 2h mace. Don't believe the lies |
| 12:52.52 | I_D | "if I can wear it, it's mine!" |
| 12:52.52 | sag_ich_nicht | >.> |
| 12:53.17 | I_D | this bug in Baggins is making me sad |
| 12:53.23 | Ellipsis | which? |
| 12:53.34 | kenlyric | d'oh, I forgot about that little camp of people in southern bone wastes. |
| 12:53.38 | I_D | the one with the freaky tooltips all over my screen |
| 12:53.48 | Ellipsis | I reported that one to the author earlier, it may be fixed now |
| 12:53.50 | kenlyric | thought I was almost done with terrokar. |
| 12:53.57 | I_D | it isn't |
| 12:54.02 | I_D | I just downloaded the latest rev |
| 12:54.57 | Ellipsis | lame |
| 12:55.07 | Ellipsis | well I did report that as well as one about compressed item counts |
| 12:55.16 | Ellipsis | so hopefully they'll be fixed in the next day or two |
| 12:56.00 | Mire | bagnon is better :p |
| 12:56.43 | Grum | I_D: how do you know it's Baggins? |
| 12:56.59 | Ellipsis | Grum, it is |
| 12:57.09 | Ellipsis | very reproducible, and doesn't occur without Baggins running |
| 12:57.10 | Grum | OH STUF |
| 12:57.13 | Ellipsis | we identified it yesterday :P |
| 12:57.33 | I_D | Grum: cause I disabled all mods without baggins and it was still there |
| 12:57.39 | Fisker-- | STUF yourself Grum |
| 12:57.40 | Grum | omg haxxx |
| 12:57.41 | I_D | then I enabled all mods without baggins and it wasgone |
| 12:57.58 | I_D | *was gone |
| 12:58.33 | Ellipsis | gah |
| 12:58.38 | Ellipsis | WTB tank/healer |
| 12:58.39 | Ellipsis | >_> |
| 12:58.44 | I_D | <= tank |
| 12:58.54 | I_D | dorf tank! :D |
| 12:58.56 | Ellipsis | k reroll US |
| 12:58.56 | Ellipsis | :D |
| 12:59.04 | Sithy_ | <-- healer :p |
| 12:59.04 | I_D | no wai |
| 12:59.11 | I_D | I played FFXI on us servers |
| 12:59.16 | I_D | buncha slackers :s |
| 12:59.18 | kenlyric | <--- healer |
| 12:59.19 | Grum | Ellipsis: you can tank |
| 12:59.22 | I_D | japs were the only ones hardcore there |
| 12:59.55 | Ellipsis | Grum: I usually end up doing so anyway... |
| 13:00.19 | Grum | l2manageaggronubcake! :D |
| 13:00.28 | I_D | have you tried using the fact you're a girl ingame? :D |
| 13:00.38 | Ellipsis | I try, I_D |
| 13:00.39 | *** join/#wowace Lukian (n=wizard@203.171.70.21) |
| 13:00.40 | Grum | i know she has macrod that |
| 13:00.42 | Ellipsis | whatever it takes to get a freaking tank |
| 13:00.47 | I_D | like "cute girl looking for strong handsome tank" |
| 13:00.56 | *** join/#wowace Sole_ (n=chatzill@203.173.139.197) |
| 13:00.57 | I_D | add in some "teehee and ^_^" and you should be golden |
| 13:01.01 | Ellipsis | yeah, I have a macro for /3 Hey guys, anyone wanna tank for me? Will send pics ;) |
| 13:01.07 | I_D | hahaha |
| 13:01.14 | I_D | "nerds welcome too" |
| 13:01.15 | I_D | :D |
| 13:01.29 | Trae | hmm.... the bulkmail2 is FAST but the UI isn't exactly intuitive. |
| 13:01.31 | Ellipsis | nerds preferred tbh |
| 13:01.45 | Ellipsis | I like BulkMail2 >_> |
| 13:01.51 | Ellipsis | the UI works for me |
| 13:01.58 | Trae | Ellipsis, gratz heh |
| 13:01.59 | I_D | but hates the slowness |
| 13:02.03 | Lukian | I_D, upgrade already :p |
| 13:02.08 | Lukian | I did! :D |
| 13:02.11 | Trae | I_D, yeah that's what I was using. |
| 13:02.18 | I_D | but, but I'm afraid, it's something "new" ;s |
| 13:02.19 | I_D | :D |
| 13:02.42 | Lukian | it's fine, the inbox gui annoys some people though :p |
| 13:02.43 | Grum | Ellipsis: you prolly opted for a /flash ingame right? ^^ |
| 13:02.44 | Ellipsis | I_D: you will thank us |
| 13:02.48 | Lukian | but that's optional :D |
| 13:02.56 | Funkeh` | hi all |
| 13:02.59 | I_D | Ellipsis: I usually do ;) |
| 13:03.02 | Ellipsis | Grum: /flirt /shy /wink |
| 13:03.13 | Ellipsis | yeah Lukian I disable that |
| 13:03.15 | Grum | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:03.18 | Ellipsis | take all button is all I need |
| 13:03.19 | I_D | lol, virtual tease ftw |
| 13:03.27 | Lukian | Ellipsis, ehehe :D |
| 13:03.46 | Lukian | I like to use my mailbox for extra storage :p |
| 13:03.52 | Grum | same here :D |
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| 13:05.43 | Ellipsis | sigh |
| 13:05.52 | Ellipsis | WTB more people in /lfg at 6am? >_> |
| 13:05.55 | *** join/#wowace Elkano (n=elkano@ip-213-135-2-162.handshake.de) |
| 13:06.01 | Lukian | Ellipsis, agree! ;D |
| 13:06.02 | I_D | I should find some sort of automated bank system for my 2nd account |
| 13:06.08 | I_D | and an anti-afk mod for it |
| 13:06.12 | Lukian | Ellipsis, don't run BF at 8am though |
| 13:06.15 | I_D | so I can leave him in iF as a 2nd bank /D |
| 13:06.16 | *** join/#wowace echos (n=echos@cpe-24-161-172-46.san.res.rr.com) |
| 13:06.16 | Lukian | the people on.. suck. |
| 13:06.23 | Ellipsis | heh |
| 13:06.31 | Grum | Ellipsis: you gotto be kidding it's so early |
| 13:06.33 | Ellipsis | maybe I should switch my lfg from SL to something easier like SV |
| 13:06.37 | I_D | it's 15:07 here :) |
| 13:06.37 | Grum | you pulled an allnighther again? O.o |
| 13:06.43 | Ellipsis | Grum: sleep is for the weak |
| 13:06.54 | Grum | pics or fake!` |
| 13:06.57 | Ellipsis | I actually slept from 8pm to 1am |
| 13:06.58 | I_D | Ellipsis: what's ur armory profile btw? |
| 13:07.09 | Ellipsis | !c US Cenarius Ellipsis |
| 13:07.11 | ThraeBot | Ellipsis: Ellipsis, Level 70 Human Warlock (43/0/18). 7200 HP; 7810 Mana; 136 mana regen; 38 spell crit; 58 spell hit; 434 +spell dmg/heal; 179 frost dmg (613); 179 shadow dmg (613); 4.36% dodge;[[ TBR: 876 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/2folt3 ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/2s456h ][ Updated: Thu Sep 27 09:22:04 2007 EST ]] |
| 13:07.16 | *** join/#wowace HarrisonF (n=Harrison@cpe-24-24-87-124.stny.res.rr.com) |
| 13:07.18 | Funkeh` | SInce SL is hard? o_o |
| 13:07.27 | Grum | Ellipsis: nubgear ^^ |
| 13:07.36 | Ellipsis | Funkeh`: for pugs?... |
| 13:07.42 | Ellipsis | yarly Grum |
| 13:07.45 | Grum | oh at least you got full fsw :D |
| 13:07.54 | I_D | !c EU Shattered Hand Instand |
| 13:07.55 | Ellipsis | well that was the easy part |
| 13:07.57 | ThraeBot | I_D: Instand, Level 70 Dwarf Warrior (10/0/51). 13824 HP; 16874 Armour; 740 AP; 154.400 Melee DPS; 7.08% melee crit; 32 melee hit; 387 defense; 20.95% dodge; 28.86% block; 10 frost resist (+10);[[ TBR: 1436 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/2d63oh ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/34v3cc ][ Updated: Thu Sep 27 09:22:49 2007 EST ]] |
| 13:08.00 | Ellipsis | my drops refuse to drop |
| 13:08.01 | Ellipsis | =[ |
| 13:08.07 | I_D | that's my tank |
| 13:08.12 | Arcaia | !c us Shattered Hand Arcaia |
| 13:08.13 | Arcaia | ;P |
| 13:08.14 | ThraeBot | Arcaia: Arcaia, Level 70 Human Rogue (15/41/5). 8874 HP; 1449 AP; 341.800 Melee DPS; 26.01% melee crit; 181 melee hit; 24.77% dodge; 12 resilience;[[ TBR: 1056 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/269oow ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/2rhxsn ][ Updated: Thu Sep 27 09:23:07 2007 EST ]] |
| 13:09.01 | Funkeh` | !c eu silvermoon kicko |
| 13:09.03 | ThraeBot | Funkeh`: Kicko, Level 70 Dwarf Priest (10/0/51). 8181 HP; 9195 Mana; 213 mana regen; 40 mp5; 190 spell crit; 132 spell hit; 950 +spell dmg/heal; 54 frost dmg (1004); 229 shadow dmg (1179); 4.82% dodge; 10 frost resist (+10);[[ TBR: 636 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/29vkzu ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/2mb3tb ][ Updated: Thu Sep 27 09:23:56 2007 EST ]] |
| 13:09.20 | Paradox | durability_fu is broken |
| 13:09.21 | Grum | nice shadoom |
| 13:09.25 | I_D | Arcaia: guildless? :p |
| 13:09.43 | Funkeh` | Would be nice to showguild /title |
| 13:09.50 | I_D | yeah |
| 13:09.55 | Xinhuan | i just noticed "Imbued Unstable Diamond" has a meta requirement of "Requires EXACTLY 3 yellow gems" |
| 13:09.57 | Xinhuan | that is SO lame |
| 13:10.01 | Ellipsis | owned |
| 13:10.14 | CIA-22 | 03moyaname * r50047 10Babble-2.2/Babble-Spell-2.2/Babble-Spell-2.2.lua: |
| 13:10.14 | CIA-22 | Babble-2.2: |
| 13:10.14 | CIA-22 | - Updated localization koKR |
| 13:10.55 | Arcaia | I_D yes/no |
| 13:10.59 | Arcaia | in a social guild atm |
| 13:11.12 | Funkeh` | ~tbr |
| 13:11.13 | purl | extra, extra, read all about it, tbr is ThraeBot Ratings -- a ThraeBot innovation. Working on a PvP-oriented weighted algorithm for what stats the Armoury currently has for your character, partially modified by build-type, it can be used to pit two characters in TBR vs TBR combat, and tries try to take into account which classes are fighting. (or "to be released") |
| 13:11.18 | Arcaia | looking-ish for a raid guild, those stats are my pvp gears |
| 13:11.22 | I_D | brb |
| 13:11.31 | Fisker-- | http://forums.wow-europe.com/thread.html?topicId=1016062450&postId=10158609353&sid=1#10 |
| 13:11.33 | Ellipsis | we're gonna take your mama out all night, yeah we'll show her what it's all about, we'll get her jacked up on some cheap champane and let the good times all roll out |
| 13:11.39 | Funkeh` | Wierd I get a ton of tbr with pve spec and shit tbr wiht pvp spec |
| 13:11.53 | Ellipsis | s/champane/champagne/ |
| 13:11.58 | Ellipsis | I know how to spell I promise >_> |
| 13:12.26 | Grum | Xinhuan: should be doable right? |
| 13:12.34 | Xinhuan | what? |
| 13:12.40 | Grum | hmm yellow was +hit right? |
| 13:12.41 | CIA-22 | 03ominous * r50048 10Tattle/ (11 files in 11 dirs): Tattle: daily run of the dataminer |
| 13:12.42 | Xinhuan | oh it is, but i do think the requirement is lame |
| 13:12.53 | Xinhuan | also the gem is hard to get |
| 13:12.55 | Xinhuan | Bashir landing event |
| 13:12.57 | Grum | yeah |
| 13:13.02 | Grum | havent tried that one |
| 13:13.09 | Grum | we'll do that once with a full raid ^^ |
| 13:13.30 | Ellipsis | sigh |
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| 13:14.09 | Ellipsis | why did those stupid horde have to put Stonebreaker Hold right on the way between Shattrath and Allerian Stronghold |
| 13:14.21 | Grum | hahaha |
| 13:14.24 | Grum | you got shot from the skies ^^ |
| 13:14.40 | Grum | and plunged a crater into terrokar |
| 13:14.50 | Arcaia | if I_D is trying to recruit me >.> he's EU I'm US Shattered Hand. rofl. |
| 13:15.17 | kenlyric | I'm lazy. I need to macro all these cooldowns into steady shot. |
| 13:15.30 | Grum | how do you mean? :D |
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| 13:16.46 | CIA-22 | 03shamino * r50049 10MaterialsTracker/MaterialsTracker.toc: |
| 13:16.46 | CIA-22 | MaterialsTracker: |
| 13:16.46 | CIA-22 | - fixed lib folder name |
| 13:16.46 | CIA-22 | - updated toc for patch |
| 13:18.04 | Ellipsis | Grum I didn't get hit by a guard lol |
| 13:18.15 | Sole_ | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QVwq27De4NI |
| 13:18.16 | Ellipsis | I was just trying to fly there and annoyed that I couldn't go in a straight line |
| 13:18.21 | Grum | you just flew your fat ass inside their camp? O.o |
| 13:18.23 | Ellipsis | got my bf's char killed doing that once >_> |
| 13:18.26 | Grum | lol fly uphigh! |
| 13:18.33 | Ellipsis | that's not a straight line either |
| 13:18.34 | Ellipsis | :P |
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| 13:20.37 | Arcaia | wtb people to farm me dreadfang venom sacs |
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| 13:21.12 | kenlyric | i have 4 now :) |
| 13:21.16 | Grum | hahah |
| 13:21.20 | Grum | still 40000 togo ;D |
| 13:21.27 | kenlyric | sorry, 3 |
| 13:21.31 | ramoz | going scryer -> aldor? |
| 13:21.52 | Arcaia | yes |
| 13:22.03 | Grum | is that really worth it? :D |
| 13:22.09 | Arcaia | yea |
| 13:22.16 | Arcaia | i actually make gold during the process |
| 13:22.25 | ramoz | better shoulderenchant for casters atleast :P |
| 13:22.38 | kenlyric | *slightly |
| 13:22.48 | Codayus | Scryer is nice for a lot of things, but as a spriest, I really do wish I was aldor for the enchants. ;-( |
| 13:23.09 | Ellipsis | yarly |
| 13:23.17 | Codayus | Not enough to devote more than about...60 minute or 100g to it though, but I *DO* wish it. |
| 13:23.17 | Ellipsis | aldor wins at inscriptions =[ |
| 13:23.25 | kenlyric | the differences are pretty minor at exalted. |
| 13:23.39 | Codayus | Yeah, but they exist. It offends my minmaxer sensibilities. |
| 13:23.45 | Ellipsis | how does everyone have exalted with every faction? |
| 13:23.54 | Grum | not slacking? |
| 13:24.06 | Ellipsis | I've never been exalted with anyone |
| 13:24.10 | Ellipsis | ever |
| 13:24.13 | Codayus | I slack a *LOT*, but 90% of TBC factions are trivial to get. |
| 13:24.14 | kenlyric | see, if you weren't so poor you'd be exalted with aldor/scryer :) |
| 13:24.21 | Codayus | I dunno how you WOULDN"T get exalted with them. |
| 13:24.30 | Ellipsis | and I play a human |
| 13:24.32 | MoonWitch | what's best for a pally aldor or scryer? |
| 13:24.38 | Ellipsis | so it should be easier |
| 13:24.44 | Arcaia | im exalted with 2 factions across all my characters accounts |
| 13:24.45 | Zicon | ellipsis: I hit exalted with my first faction ever a month ago. |
| 13:24.50 | kenlyric | Codayus: oh, it's easy enough. |
| 13:24.55 | Arcaia | SW and Tranquillian |
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| 13:25.06 | kenlyric | I haven't hit exalted with anyone tbc except karazhan and aldor. |
| 13:25.08 | Codayus | Goof off and run 5 mans...get exalted with CE/Lower City/Shatar. Get drug onto too many BM runs to get people Kara keyed...get exalted with keepers. |
| 13:25.09 | Grum | i got exalted with 2 1week after i dinged 70 |
| 13:25.30 | kenlyric | who would wnat to run five mans enough to hit exalted with any of those? |
| 13:25.35 | kenlyric | I barely wanted to do it to get revered. |
| 13:25.46 | Ellipsis | I run 5mans constantly for cash/gear |
| 13:25.52 | Ellipsis | and I just got revered with CE |
| 13:25.54 | Ellipsis | >_> |
| 13:25.54 | Codayus | kenlyric: Loot, badges, rep, nethers? |
| 13:26.04 | Grum | rep-rewards mostly |
| 13:26.08 | kenlyric | oh, you mean heroics. yeah. not pugging those. |
| 13:26.08 | Ellipsis | also: someone just called me "dude" on WoW =[ |
| 13:26.13 | Codayus | I've been exalted with CE/LC/Shat for a long LONG time. |
| 13:26.14 | Grum | cheap lvl70 epics |
| 13:26.27 | Gngsk | Ellipsis, you are a dude |
| 13:26.34 | Codayus | ....pug? >< Ick. Get a guild? :-) |
| 13:26.37 | neenee | I don't like grinding, so I doubt I'm even honored with most yet |
| 13:26.49 | Ellipsis | Gngsk, your mom is a dude |
| 13:26.54 | Grum | Gngsk: that's what i've been saying! |
| 13:26.54 | Gngsk | yep |
| 13:27.03 | Grum | pics to prove! |
| 13:27.16 | Gngsk | any 'girl' who balks at being called a 'dude' is most likely a 'guy' posing as a 'girl' |
| 13:27.19 | Ellipsis | Grum, addons to earn :P |
| 13:27.26 | Grum | addons? multiple? |
| 13:27.28 | Grum | geez |
| 13:27.30 | Grum | nevermind then |
| 13:27.32 | Codayus | neenee: The nice thing about TBC factions is there's no grinding required. Help one of your tanks get a Sun Eater..buncha rep. Helf a friend get the might-look-alike DPS shoulders from BM...more more rep. |
| 13:27.33 | Ellipsis | one addon per pic |
| 13:27.34 | Ellipsis | ;) |
| 13:27.35 | kenlyric | Codayus: but, you just proved our point. exalted takes work :) |
| 13:27.40 | Grum | can i choose the pic? |
| 13:27.40 | Ellipsis | or you could just take ckknight's word for it |
| 13:28.03 | neenee | Codayus, but helping them get that may mean running the same instance over and over, which I consider grinding/farming |
| 13:28.04 | Zicon | I might be weird, but I tend to call people by the gender of their character in-game... |
| 13:28.11 | Ellipsis | yes, as long as it doesn't require me doing/wearing anything that would be inappropriate in a public place :P |
| 13:28.17 | neenee | Zicon, same here |
| 13:28.27 | sb | wtb rocked auctioneer :/ |
| 13:28.30 | sb | or aced ;p |
| 13:28.34 | Ellipsis | Gngsk, if you really think I'm a guy, good for you :P |
| 13:28.37 | Zicon | It's just -wrong- to call that female mage "he" even if I -know- the player is a big, burly dude... |
| 13:28.40 | kenlyric | sb: why? |
| 13:28.44 | Gngsk | Ellipsis, I could care less |
| 13:28.46 | kenlyric | auctioneer is awesome all by itself. |
| 13:28.50 | sb | kenlyric: auctioneer would be fine |
| 13:28.51 | Ellipsis | and I could care less if people believe me |
| 13:28.55 | neenee | Ellipsis, any addon? I have something that I made long ago. |
| 13:28.55 | sb | without all that addons :/ |
| 13:28.59 | Grum | Ellipsis: nude beach is public |
| 13:29.06 | alext | *cough* kc_items *cough* |
| 13:29.09 | Ellipsis | I just prefer to be addressed and referred to using female pronouns |
| 13:29.12 | sb | stubby, informant, enhtooltip, etc.. :/ |
| 13:29.13 | Gngsk | gg, dude |
| 13:29.19 | kenlyric | alext: not even close. |
| 13:29.24 | kenlyric | sb: uh, don't use the addons? |
| 13:29.33 | syeren | Why the hell do people use "could care less", when trying to say they don't really care? |
| 13:29.36 | neenee | kenlyric, you're rather run a big bloated Auctioneer? |
| 13:29.36 | sb | *sigh* :) |
| 13:29.39 | Gngsk | they're deps |
| 13:29.40 | alext | heheh i know kc_items cant do everything auctioneer does |
| 13:29.42 | syeren | It's "couldn't". |
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| 13:29.48 | Ellipsis | syeren, yeah, I know |
| 13:29.51 | kenlyric | neenee: you need to step into 2007. |
| 13:29.58 | kenlyric | auctioneeradvanced, baby |
| 13:29.59 | I_D | new auctioneer sucks ass imo |
| 13:30.03 | sb | *fix* |
| 13:30.04 | Zicon | Of course, it's hilarious to start flirting with people who think you're male. :P |
| 13:30.05 | I_D | appraiser doesn't work at all |
| 13:30.07 | Ellipsis | I use couldn't normally, but it doesn't work when someone else screws it up first |
| 13:30.26 | Ellipsis | Zicon: it's more hilarious to flirt with other female characters who are probably male :P |
| 13:30.31 | Grum | Ellipsis: i'm so going to split my addon up in 10 pieces now |
| 13:30.33 | Ellipsis | it confuses everyone |
| 13:30.36 | Grum | tssk look what you made me do |
| 13:30.42 | Arcaia | ;P |
| 13:30.44 | sb | "Dependencies: EnhTooltip, Stubby" meh :o |
| 13:30.44 | neenee | kenlyric, which has nothing to do with an addon being modular or not. auctioneeradvanced is modular just like auctioneer. |
| 13:30.46 | Ellipsis | Grum, as long as each one serves a legitimate purpose on its own, have fun :P |
| 13:31.01 | Zicon | ellipsis: True, but that breaks little boy brains in other ways than what I was thinking about... |
| 13:31.05 | kenlyric | but it doesn't use 30mb anymore |
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| 13:31.48 | Grum | well i could make an addon for my addon ^^ |
| 13:31.50 | neenee | Well, I used it, but I went back to the normal one. If you use a separate auctioneer character, it doesn't matter how much resources an addon uses. |
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| 13:32.04 | neenee | I don't load auctioneer for other characters. |
| 13:32.11 | Arcaia | >.> |
| 13:32.13 | Ellipsis | and if you don't use an auctioneer character, l2play |
| 13:32.13 | kenlyric | show price per item, compact mode, sort by markdown. |
| 13:32.24 | Grum | Ellipsis: i dont use one |
| 13:32.29 | Grum | i *never* vendor anythinhg |
| 13:32.41 | Grum | erm on the AH that is :D |
| 13:32.48 | Ellipsis | o.O |
| 13:33.02 | Ellipsis | so if you picked up a boe epic world drop |
| 13:33.05 | Ellipsis | you'd DE/vendor it? |
| 13:33.09 | Ellipsis | or give it to a friend or something? |
| 13:33.12 | neenee | compact mode makes it too small for me and show price per item is something people can calculate in their head. or well, perhaps it's something they were able to do. |
| 13:33.13 | Grum | i never kill mobs |
| 13:33.21 | themoe321 | offtopic: how can i add my own fonts to PitBull? |
| 13:33.24 | Ellipsis | your WoW experience must be pretty...unusual :P |
| 13:33.38 | Grum | hehe |
| 13:33.39 | Ellipsis | themoe321: register them with SharedMedia |
| 13:33.42 | Grum | i herb/mine |
| 13:33.49 | neenee | If unusual is the opposite of boring, give me unusual any day :) |
| 13:33.53 | Grum | only time i kill is when some nubadd decides to target my pet instead of me |
| 13:33.59 | themoe321 | k thx |
| 13:34.20 | Grum | because then i cant just FD and fly away |
| 13:34.22 | Arcaia | sharedmedia |
| 13:34.27 | Arcaia | sharedmedialib |
| 13:34.58 | Grum | we diss everything atm |
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| 13:35.12 | Grum | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:35.40 | Ellipsis | Grum why do you have a pet out in the first place then XD |
| 13:35.52 | Grum | it gets pissed when i dismiss it |
| 13:36.04 | Ellipsis | haha |
| 13:36.06 | I_D | yeah my gf has that too |
| 13:36.07 | Ellipsis | hunters |
| 13:36.10 | Grum | and i cant always be arsed to have it stand somewhere and run out of range |
| 13:36.10 | Mire | never summon it? |
| 13:36.14 | neenee | Indeed |
| 13:36.19 | neenee | Just keep it dismissed |
| 13:36.24 | Arcaia | I hate warlocks. |
| 13:36.25 | Grum | sometimes you do want it |
| 13:36.26 | Arcaia | well |
| 13:36.30 | Arcaia | the ones on our server |
| 13:36.32 | neenee | Grum - why? |
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| 13:36.35 | Grum | when you have 4 casters standing on your manathistle |
| 13:36.45 | Ellipsis | Arcaia =[ |
| 13:36.46 | Grum | (NW of Nagrand for example) |
| 13:36.47 | neenee | See, that wasn't so hard :) |
| 13:36.47 | Arcaia | that think its funny to dot every damn farm mob in the area and then aoe fear them all |
| 13:36.49 | themoe321 | something else: the dropdowns in the Rock config window grow above the config borders, can anyone change this and add scrollable dropdown ? |
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| 13:36.51 | CIA-22 | MiniChat: |
| 13:36.51 | CIA-22 | - another fix to SmartMinimize |
| 13:37.03 | Ellipsis | Arcaia, that's how we farm =[ |
| 13:37.12 | Grum | themoe321: let ckknight know :D |
| 13:37.13 | Ellipsis | it's not funny, it's efficient |
| 13:37.15 | Arcaia | screw you! |
| 13:37.16 | Grum | ~lart ckknight |
| 13:37.16 | purl | whips out a shotgun, trudges over to ckknight, and goes postal |
| 13:37.41 | Ellipsis | themoe321, scrollable dropdowns are in the works I think |
| 13:37.42 | Arcaia | i just need 600 dreadfang sacs |
| 13:37.45 | Grum | Ellipsis: you are so affliction specced ^^ |
| 13:37.50 | Ellipsis | Grum: no wai |
| 13:37.58 | Arcaia | dont need a warlock ruining my rogue action |
| 13:37.59 | Grum | why would you fear then? or dot? :D |
| 13:38.05 | themoe321 | thanks |
| 13:38.12 | Grum | oh nevermind, your spelldmg ^^ |
| 13:38.16 | Ellipsis | =[ |
| 13:38.22 | Grum | haha |
| 13:38.29 | Ellipsis | 713 shadow /emocrai |
| 13:38.32 | Grum | emo =D |
| 13:38.45 | Grum | that with your demon-shield-thingie? :D |
| 13:38.50 | Ellipsis | yep |
| 13:38.55 | Grum | poor you^^ |
| 13:38.58 | Ellipsis | I can't get a freaking group and even when I do my lewts never drop |
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| 13:39.08 | Stanzilla2 | 882 or something...an I'm a priest |
| 13:39.08 | Grum | join a guild? |
| 13:39.14 | Stanzilla2 | shame on j00 Ellipsis :P |
| 13:39.15 | Ellipsis | I'm in one |
| 13:39.25 | Grum | i'll be getting 800 as well .. in leo-gear) |
| 13:39.26 | Ellipsis | I won't have my kara key til next week at the earliest |
| 13:39.32 | Grum | why not? |
| 13:39.38 | Ellipsis | because tonight is raid |
| 13:39.40 | Grum | kara takes like 2.5hrs to do |
| 13:39.49 | Ellipsis | tomorrow is off-night so I can get someone to run Arcatraz with me |
| 13:39.52 | Grum | (both to get attuned and to fullclear it) |
| 13:39.59 | Ellipsis | and then I'll find a BM group over the weekend |
| 13:40.07 | Grum | lol |
| 13:40.09 | Ellipsis | then I'll get to run kara with guild on tues |
| 13:40.13 | Grum | pug em :D |
| 13:40.16 | Mire | grum, its a bit more than 3hrs |
| 13:40.20 | Grum | Mire: what? |
| 13:40.25 | kenlyric | grum lives in magical fantasy land with good players. |
| 13:40.31 | Ellipsis | yeah |
| 13:40.43 | Grum | kenlyric: seriously, we alt-pugged kara attunement for 10 people in 4hrs |
| 13:40.46 | Mire | i would say in the 3hr range for a full kara and attunement |
| 13:40.47 | Ellipsis | if there were intelligent people available to pug with 24/7 I'd be doing kara with my guild tonight |
| 13:40.59 | Grum | Mire: seperately ofc |
| 13:41.01 | Ellipsis | Grum: not everyone has guildies to help |
| 13:41.10 | Grum | Ellipsis: find a decent guild? :( |
| 13:41.18 | Mire | eberyone should have guildies to help |
| 13:41.22 | Mire | if you don't |
| 13:41.27 | Ellipsis | Grum, my guild *is* decent, that's the problem |
| 13:41.28 | Mire | get a new guild. |
| 13:41.33 | Ellipsis | they don't give a crap about kara anymore |
| 13:41.41 | Ellipsis | so it's hard to find people to help |
| 13:41.46 | Ellipsis | they're too far beyond it =[ |
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| 13:41.59 | kenlyric | then why do you care? |
| 13:41.59 | Grum | but you said they we're raiding tonight .. and after that you said 'to kara tonight' that implies they still run kara? :D |
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| 13:42.05 | Ellipsis | I want to catch up and raid? |
| 13:42.10 | kenlyric | make them twink you through something further :) |
| 13:42.18 | Ellipsis | Grum: I meant after Mag |
| 13:42.35 | Grum | where is your guild progress wise Ellipsis? |
| 13:42.36 | Ellipsis | kenlyric: I can't "make" them do anything, I'm a brand new recruit |
| 13:42.42 | Mire | meh, hell my BT/MH guild still runs kara |
| 13:42.43 | Ellipsis | I don't even know Grum |
| 13:42.57 | Grum | Mire: organized runs to kara? :D |
| 13:43.02 | Ellipsis | I don't know anything about progression beyond kara/gruul because that's where we were when I stopped raiding last |
| 13:43.18 | Mire | yup, organized, yet alt grum :p |
| 13:43.21 | Ellipsis | and by "we" I mean the entire WoW community as a whole |
| 13:43.36 | Ellipsis | not some lame guild |
| 13:43.37 | Ellipsis | >_> |
| 13:43.46 | Grum | hehe |
| 13:43.54 | Grum | we kinda guild-pug kara at the side now for alts and stuff |
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| 13:44.07 | xyu` | zugzug! |
| 13:44.26 | Ellipsis | it's really frustrating...to go from server leader to the bottom rung all over again |
| 13:44.36 | Ellipsis | the timing really sucks |
| 13:44.39 | xyu` | yep, been there. |
| 13:44.44 | Mire | i felt bad since i transferred over to them, and we needed to get me BT/ MH attuned :x |
| 13:44.46 | neenee | 'leader'. lol |
| 13:44.52 | xyu` | pre BC i was 2nd guild on server to kill KT. |
| 13:45.00 | xyu` | post BC. i'm not even doing gruul :P |
| 13:45.12 | Ellipsis | neenee: I healed server first kills on my druid in kara/gruul's |
| 13:45.14 | Mire | ouchies |
| 13:45.30 | Ellipsis | but now I can't even find people to help me get my kara key because I'm so freaking far behind on my main |
| 13:45.34 | neenee | Ellipsis, =] |
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| 13:45.45 | xyu` | pug it |
| 13:45.50 | xyu` | i pugged al of kara key start to finish in 1 day :) |
| 13:46.02 | Grum | Mira: how can people accept non-attuned recruits, i dont really get that :( |
| 13:46.09 | Ellipsis | xyu: I can't pug easily when my schedule is like this |
| 13:46.22 | Mire | i sit at 1186 spell dmg |
| 13:46.24 | Ellipsis | I'm in LFG for Arc right now but it's 6:45am server time |
| 13:46.24 | Arcaia | haha |
| 13:46.26 | Ellipsis | so glhf |
| 13:46.26 | xyu` | you play in the morning? |
| 13:46.28 | xyu` | yeah |
| 13:46.31 | Arcaia | me and the warlock are farming different things |
| 13:46.31 | Codayus | My guild downed Nef for the first time the week before TBC came out. Now we've got Lurker and VR down. I *think* we're progressing faster now? |
| 13:46.36 | Arcaia | so we're grouping |
| 13:46.36 | Codayus | :-D |
| 13:46.37 | Arcaia | pwnage |
| 13:46.38 | Mire | i just didn't kill vasj or kt |
| 13:46.40 | xyu` | it's tough, but the benefit is, when you get a pug in the morning, it's usually a very good, mature one. |
| 13:46.40 | Arcaia | i get all the sacs |
| 13:46.43 | xyu` | (from my experience) |
| 13:46.44 | Ellipsis | grats Arcaia :P |
| 13:46.46 | Arcaia | they get the silk i could careless about |
| 13:46.48 | Ellipsis | he wants the silk? |
| 13:46.50 | Ellipsis | yeh |
| 13:46.57 | Ellipsis | I'd do that deal |
| 13:47.12 | Ellipsis | xyu: yeah I ended up in a pug a little while ago that really kicked butt |
| 13:47.18 | Ellipsis | unfortunately it was for an instance I didn't need |
| 13:47.21 | Codayus | And yeah, I don't understand guilds who take recruits who aren't geared/keyed for where that guild raids, but won't help with gear/keying. *shrug* |
| 13:47.23 | xyu` | pugs during primetime are scary |
| 13:47.24 | vhaarr | Codayus: Not if you don't have Al'ar and Hydross down - both Lurker and VR are pushovers. |
| 13:47.31 | Grum | Ellipsis: you need every instance unless you are exalted :D |
| 13:47.40 | Ellipsis | our healer was pwn, the hunter actually knew how to re-trap |
| 13:47.45 | Ellipsis | Grum: it was sethekk, no rep |
| 13:47.46 | Grum | vhaarr: you can skip hydross if you please |
| 13:47.56 | Codayus | vhaarr: Yeah, but Nef one WEEK before TBC? And this was on one of the original release servers. :-) |
| 13:47.57 | vhaarr | oh really |
| 13:48.04 | Mire | Grum: why skip hydross for easy loot? |
| 13:48.06 | Grum | but they should seriously change that |
| 13:48.12 | Mire | errr lurker |
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| 13:48.18 | CIA-22 | Babble-2.2: |
| 13:48.18 | CIA-22 | - Rollback for R50047 |
| 13:48.18 | CIA-22 | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:48.18 | CIA-22 | <PROTECTED> |
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| 13:48.24 | Ellipsis | Codayus: your guild gets a ~fail IMO :P |
| 13:48.33 | Grum | it sucks people skip Al'ar and Hydross to get loot |
| 13:48.51 | Grum | Al'ar is 'fixed' (broken fix but still ^^) - now Hydross left to do |
| 13:48.52 | Codayus | *MY* guild helps recruits get keyed to Karazhan. I think your guild fails more. :-D |
| 13:49.04 | Ellipsis | yeah probably |
| 13:49.12 | Mire | we killed hydross in a oneshot last night |
| 13:49.13 | Ellipsis | I'm having really rotten luck gearing too |
| 13:49.16 | Ellipsis | it's frustrating |
| 13:49.18 | Mire | he's still easy imo |
| 13:49.23 | xyu` | yeah, kara is quite easy if you think about it. It's only 2 full runs. the other 2 are like half runs |
| 13:49.28 | Ellipsis | I've run SV about a thousand times and no belt >_> |
| 13:49.30 | xyu` | and the SV run is soloable |
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| 13:49.56 | Ellipsis | xyu` you don't even need to kill bosses in SV/Arc do you? |
| 13:50.01 | kenlyric | Ellipsis: never fear, people in fantasy land will never understand our pain. |
| 13:50.01 | xyu` | right |
| 13:50.04 | Ellipsis | yeah |
| 13:50.09 | xyu` | in SV you just need to do 2 pulls i think. |
| 13:50.14 | xyu` | which i soloed |
| 13:50.14 | Morgado | Hey guys, is there an addon from Ace to show cooldowns in the main bar? Like ABinfo? |
| 13:50.31 | Ellipsis | I grabbed the SV frag on one of my million belt attempts |
| 13:50.50 | xyu` | arcatraz you just need to go up the ramp past the first boss and do like 1 - 2 pulls in that room |
| 13:50.53 | Ellipsis | Morgado: CooldownCount, but most people prefer OmniCC |
| 13:50.55 | xyu` | the shadowy guys |
| 13:51.07 | xyu` | i dont know why arcatraz scares so many people, they've nerfed the hell out of that place. |
| 13:51.07 | Grum | only SL/BM you have to to completely |
| 13:51.14 | Ellipsis | xyu not soloable though right? |
| 13:51.14 | Morgado | Thanks Ellipsis, is OmniCC as good as ABinfo? |
| 13:51.20 | xyu` | no ellip, i dont think so |
| 13:51.26 | xyu` | omnicc > * |
| 13:51.27 | Ellipsis | Morgado: no clue, I don't use that type of addon and I've never even heard of ABinfo |
| 13:51.28 | Grum | just 2 things hard in SL, first boss and the meteordudes |
| 13:51.36 | Morgado | Ok thanks for the help anyway. |
| 13:51.39 | Codayus | You can also just swap in for a minute and grab the fragment if a guild group is already clearing. |
| 13:51.42 | Grum | erm arca O.o |
| 13:51.52 | Ellipsis | Codayus, guild group clearing Arc? lulz |
| 13:51.54 | Grum | Codayus: works like a charm indeed |
| 13:52.03 | *** join/#wowace faCe| (n=f@pD955BC6F.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 13:52.15 | Wogroipl | w00t no errors at all!! :D |
| 13:52.15 | Ellipsis | maybe alts in the morning |
| 13:52.18 | xyu` | shadowlabs is cleared quite often on my server. wouldn't be hard tagging along. |
| 13:52.21 | *** join/#wowace GingerbreadM (n=drwily@user-0c2h2qe.cable.mindspring.com) |
| 13:52.22 | Ellipsis | but with my luck, no way |
| 13:52.23 | xyu` | even a pug group would probably let you P |
| 13:52.25 | kenlyric | this isn't just fantasy land, this is fantasy *world* |
| 13:52.25 | Codayus | Ellipsis: Srsly, I think your guild is messed up... |
| 13:52.37 | Lukian | Hmm |
| 13:52.38 | Codayus | Grum: Also, I think you might means the SECOND boss of SL? |
| 13:52.39 | Ellipsis | xyu: I got the SL frag during one of my million attempts at the greatsword of horrid dreams |
| 13:52.42 | Ellipsis | I just need Arc |
| 13:52.47 | Ellipsis | and BM but that should be cake |
| 13:52.57 | Lukian | What addon do you suppose I could use.. for determining the failure rate of engineering devices as I use them? |
| 13:52.58 | Ellipsis | Codayus: how is it messed up? |
| 13:53.05 | Ellipsis | they just don't bother with 5mans since they don't need anything there anymore |
| 13:53.13 | xyu` | I remember way way back in the day when i was trying to get skullsmoke pants from Vax(sp) in Scholomance, i would camp inside the instance /1 "Willing to summon Vax, you keep Corrupters, i get pants) :P |
| 13:53.20 | xyu` | it actually worked. i did like 8 scholo runs a day |
| 13:53.25 | Wogroipl | just everything was a bit "out of place" |
| 13:53.26 | Ellipsis | nice |
| 13:53.30 | xyu` | never actually got the damn skullsmoke pants tho. *sigh* |
| 13:53.34 | Codayus | Ellipsis: Alts? Fun? Nethers? Recruits? *shrug* |
| 13:53.35 | Ellipsis | aww |
| 13:53.41 | Ellipsis | Codayus: I can't do heroic... |
| 13:54.06 | Ellipsis | they're not very alt-ish tbh |
| 13:54.11 | Codayus | xyu`: I farmed skullsmoke pants for a LONG time. Never saw them... |
| 13:54.18 | Ellipsis | and all the recruits are kara keyed except for me |
| 13:54.21 | xyu` | yeah, they were tough :/ |
| 13:54.24 | Codayus | Ellipsis: What guild are you in? |
| 13:54.31 | Ellipsis | er |
| 13:54.37 | *** join/#wowace Lothaer (n=Jamie@CPE-58-165-239-57.sa.bigpond.net.au) |
| 13:54.39 | Ellipsis | !c US Cenarius Ellipsis |
| 13:54.40 | ThraeBot | Ellipsis: Ellipsis, Level 70 Human Warlock (43/0/18). 7200 HP; 7810 Mana; 136 mana regen; 38 spell crit; 58 spell hit; 434 +spell dmg/heal; 179 frost dmg (613); 179 shadow dmg (613); 4.36% dodge;[[ TBR: 876 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/2folt3 ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/2s456h ][ Updated: Thu Sep 27 09:22:04 2007 EST ]] |
| 13:54.45 | Ellipsis | whatever guild is in my armory profile |
| 13:54.46 | Lothaer | G'Day |
| 13:54.53 | kenlyric | you don't know the name? |
| 13:55.00 | *** join/#wowace cladhaire (n=cladhair@WoWUIDev/WoWI/Featured/Dongle/cladhaire) |
| 13:55.00 | *** mode/#wowace [+v cladhaire] by ChanServ |
| 13:55.07 | Lothaer | PMS or H2O??? |
| 13:55.10 | xyu` | I'm trying to get into one of the top guilds on my server, with only 990 spelldmg. hehe. It's a long shot, any tips on getting in w/ theM? ^_^ |
| 13:55.22 | kenlyric | xyu`: don't? |
| 13:55.25 | Lothaer | a shit tonne of gold |
| 13:55.27 | Ellipsis | kenlyric: I forget |
| 13:55.33 | xyu` | why not ken? |
| 13:55.40 | Lothaer | xyu buy your way in |
| 13:55.56 | Codayus | ...ah. |
| 13:55.58 | xyu` | i mean i dont' need anything in kara anymore nor gruuls really. and i think they still do SSC . so that'd be perfect :P |
| 13:55.58 | Codayus | Sodality. |
| 13:56.03 | Ellipsis | yeah that |
| 13:56.09 | Codayus | Currently downed...all of Kara, Maulgar, and Gruul. |
| 13:56.17 | Lothaer | kool |
| 13:56.21 | supp | xyu mostly you will get invited with having lots of raid experience / gladiator titles / very good arena ratings / very good gear |
| 13:56.27 | Ellipsis | working on VR/Mag now apaparently |
| 13:56.31 | Codayus | Uh huh. |
| 13:56.32 | Lothaer | ~titan |
| 13:56.32 | purl | Titan? Does that still exist? |
| 13:56.34 | xyu` | yeah supp, i think so too. |
| 13:56.38 | Lothaer | sure does purl |
| 13:56.45 | supp | which realm do you play on? |
| 13:56.51 | xyu` | Sargeras (US) |
| 13:56.53 | kenlyric | Ellipsis: and they're too advanded to do kara? lols |
| 13:57.00 | Codayus | And nobody could use anything in a 5 man, nor has any time to run a 5-man for alts, nor even to run a 5 man to key a recruit... |
| 13:57.02 | Ellipsis | kenlyric: *shrug* |
| 13:57.08 | Codayus | Sorry, but that's a REALLY messed up sounding guild. :-) |
| 13:57.10 | Lothaer | ~poke purl |
| 13:57.11 | purl | ACTION cuts down a small tree, sneaks up behind purl, pokes purl repeatedly, hilarity ensues. |
| 13:57.11 | Ellipsis | they do kara, just not for progression |
| 13:57.25 | Ellipsis | all their recruits are pretty much done gearing there |
| 13:57.27 | kenlyric | ok, codayus lives in fantasy land, but you apparenlty live in nightmare world |
| 13:57.45 | Ellipsis | I am the only person who's not like "lulz who needs kara" |
| 13:57.52 | Lothaer | lol |
| 13:57.54 | Grum | Codayus: second one is the one which whirlwinds right? |
| 13:57.55 | Ellipsis | it's a big gap |
| 13:58.04 | Grum | erm |
| 13:58.08 | Grum | i meant arca not sl btw ^^ |
| 13:58.18 | kenlyric | unless they spent 5 months in there and have every possible thing they'd want for SSC |
| 13:58.32 | Ellipsis | I don't know |
| 13:58.44 | Codayus | Actually, looks like they HAVE been farming Kara for a while. |
| 13:58.48 | Codayus | http://wowjutsu.com/us/cenarius/Sodality.html#_karazhan |
| 13:58.51 | Ellipsis | all I know is what I've been told, because I obviously don't go on raids and I don't have vent access |
| 13:58.54 | Mire | all alts should be geared in SSC imo! |
| 13:59.01 | xyu` | agreed |
| 13:59.02 | Codayus | Although that just furthers my point, wtf else do they do with their time? |
| 13:59.08 | Codayus | ....wait, no VENT access? oO |
| 13:59.15 | Ellipsis | according to my sponsor, if I went to kara I would get pretty much whatever I wanted, because nobody needs anything there anymore |
| 13:59.27 | Codayus | Heh |
| 13:59.34 | kenlyric | this is just.. awful. |
| 14:00.10 | Mire | if your guild doesn't give you vent access, they must be some kind of elistists. |
| 14:00.10 | Ellipsis | it's just the key standing in my way right now |
| 14:00.10 | Codayus | I think they take themselves WAAAAY too seriously to be working on VR. |
| 14:00.10 | Ellipsis | Mire: no, what happened was their vent was getting spammed so they cracked down on sharing the password |
| 14:00.12 | Ellipsis | they only give it out to people who need to be on vent for raids |
| 14:00.14 | Ellipsis | and I don't raid, so...yeah |
| 14:00.17 | Mire | pfft |
| 14:00.17 | Codayus | (I mean, fine, we're 2 whole bosses ahead of you. But we KNOW we're casuals.) |
| 14:00.25 | *** part/#wowace Tigerdyr (n=sps@tigger.t-rex.dk) |
| 14:00.29 | Codayus | ....with an attitude like that, I can see why they might get spammed? :-) |
| 14:00.40 | Ellipsis | it was someone who got kicked from the guild anyway >_> |
| 14:00.52 | xyu` | yeah i just laugh at people who come into vent and try to be funny. but other people freak out. |
| 14:00.54 | xyu` | and go nuts |
| 14:01.14 | Ellipsis | it was someone with a name phonetic that was like {{{{{{{{}}}}}} or something |
| 14:01.16 | Mire | xyu: seen the duke nukem on vent youtube video? |
| 14:01.16 | Codayus | Isn't that what bans are for? |
| 14:01.19 | Ellipsis | and they just spammed connects |
| 14:01.26 | xyu` | Mire: yeah, and lindsey |
| 14:01.29 | xyu` | and the others |
| 14:01.30 | Mire | BAN IP! OMG SO HARD |
| 14:01.31 | Ellipsis | apparently the admins couldn't catch the person online long enough to ban them |
| 14:01.37 | Ellipsis | they're not the brightest bunch |
| 14:01.37 | Codayus | ah |
| 14:01.37 | xyu` | that chick goes crazy lol |
| 14:02.17 | Lothaer | ~chuck norris |
| 14:02.18 | purl | [chuck norris] and there is no chin under Chuck Norris' Beard. There is only another fist. |
| 14:02.26 | Lothaer | lol |
| 14:02.33 | xyu` | There's not much i can get from anything other than 25 mans now. http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Sargeras&n=Xyu |
| 14:02.34 | Lothaer | ~Aussie Aussie Aussie |
| 14:02.35 | purl | Oi! Oi! Oi! |
| 14:02.38 | Lothaer | WOOOT |
| 14:02.39 | xyu` | I do need a new trinket |
| 14:02.45 | Ellipsis | purl, forget aussie aussie aussie |
| 14:02.45 | purl | Ellipsis: i forgot aussie aussie aussie |
| 14:02.56 | xyu` | and a few pieces could use some sidegrades :/ |
| 14:03.00 | Lothaer | ~AUSSIE AUSSIE AUSSIE |
| 14:03.04 | Ellipsis | =] |
| 14:03.07 | Lothaer | awwww |
| 14:03.10 | Lothaer | spoiled my fun |
| 14:03.16 | Ellipsis | silly aussieis |
| 14:03.18 | Ellipsis | -i |
| 14:03.20 | Mire | OH SHIT you are sargeras xyu? |
| 14:03.23 | xyu` | yea |
| 14:03.36 | Lothaer | Elli can u add it back plz =P |
| 14:03.40 | Mire | i was..... |
| 14:03.43 | Ellipsis | no u |
| 14:03.44 | Mire | just left |
| 14:03.49 | xyu` | alliance side or horde? |
| 14:03.50 | Mire | <Divine Vigilance> |
| 14:03.52 | xyu` | ah |
| 14:04.00 | xyu` | why'd you leave? |
| 14:04.02 | Mire | hop in the #sargeras irc |
| 14:04.08 | xyu` | i'm usually in there |
| 14:04.08 | Mire | guild died |
| 14:04.12 | Mire | now over on arthas |
| 14:04.22 | xyu` | but it's full of alliance, :P |
| 14:04.30 | Mire | qqq |
| 14:04.40 | Mire | [url=http://sigs.guildlaunch.net][img]http://sigs.guildlaunch.net/sig.php/944475rfbnQ.png[/img][/url] |
| 14:04.44 | Mire | mt |
| 14:04.45 | xyu` | there was a gnome mage in there started w/ a D, he was the only one that really talked. |
| 14:04.50 | Mire | http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Arthas&n=Telari |
| 14:05.07 | Ellipsis | k I'm gonna go for a bit guys |
| 14:05.16 | Lothaer | i need help getting Titan Durability fixed :( |
| 14:05.18 | Ellipsis | I'll be back later to whine about lack of pugs for my key :P |
| 14:05.24 | Ellipsis | ~titan |
| 14:05.25 | purl | Titan? Does that still exist? |
| 14:05.26 | Codayus | Titan? oO |
| 14:05.32 | xyu` | jia-you! (good luck) |
| 14:05.38 | Lothaer | yeah me and a few other have been maintaining it |
| 14:05.42 | Mire | people use titan still? |
| 14:05.45 | Lothaer | all thats left is Durability |
| 14:05.46 | Mire | wow |
| 14:05.52 | Mire | fubar is WAYYY better |
| 14:05.59 | Lothaer | ill use Titan until its broken beyond repair |
| 14:06.05 | deltron | you just started to use fubar? |
| 14:06.11 | Lothaer | im a non conformist |
| 14:06.18 | deltron | also, lol @ < purl> Titan? Does that still exist? |
| 14:06.35 | Lothaer | ~purl Titan is better than FuBar |
| 14:06.35 | purl | ...but titan is already something else... |
| 14:06.49 | neenee | Quite a few people use it still, because they fear change. |
| 14:06.50 | sb | ~titan |
| 14:06.50 | purl | Titan? Does that still exist? |
| 14:07.10 | Lothaer | ~Titan vs FuBar |
| 14:07.29 | Lothaer | ~Titan is better than fubar |
| 14:07.30 | purl | ...but titan is already something else... |
| 14:07.31 | MoonWitch | I started with Titan |
| 14:07.34 | Mire | odd irc mod |
| 14:07.37 | neenee | Same here |
| 14:07.38 | Lothaer | lol |
| 14:07.40 | Mire | where is !uno when u need it? |
| 14:07.43 | *** join/#wowace DrLight (n=drwily@user-0c2h2qe.cable.mindspring.com) |
| 14:07.46 | deltron | I think everybody did :P |
| 14:07.52 | [ND]_afk | titan is too hard... fubar rocks J;) |
| 14:07.56 | Lothaer | ~illidan |
| 14:07.56 | purl | Avast ye, from me memory, Illidan is a B-Tree, yarrrr |
| 14:08.06 | Lothaer | ... |
| 14:08.10 | Mire | ~arthas |
| 14:08.19 | Lothaer | ~murloc |
| 14:08.19 | purl | [murloc] <answer> Mmmmrrrglglglglglg!!!! |
| 14:08.20 | MoonWitch | well, it wasn't as much as "oooh titan" it was my own ignorance and listening to people I thought knew what they were talking about |
| 14:08.34 | xyu` | yep |
| 14:08.37 | Lothaer | ~gnomeregan |
| 14:08.38 | MoonWitch | the same people use CT mods all the way |
| 14:08.48 | MoonWitch | I tried CT ... shuddered and uninstalled |
| 14:08.50 | Mire | ~c'thun |
| 14:08.50 | purl | *** Incoming tentacle rape party! ~5secs! *** |
| 14:08.50 | xyu` | I blame guildleaders |
| 14:08.53 | xyu` | across the world |
| 14:08.58 | Codayus | Titan was good when first written. |
| 14:09.02 | Mire | yay i found one! |
| 14:09.08 | MoonWitch | ~MoonWitch |
| 14:09.09 | purl | methinks moonwitch is a weird psycho, who will gnaw eyes out for breakfast. |
| 14:09.14 | Lothaer | the first set of mods i tried was cosmos..... /slap myself |
| 14:09.24 | Mire | ouch |
| 14:09.26 | Codayus | I can still recall the announcement post on the UI forums...which promptly ended up in a flaming match over whether the author stole the idea... |
| 14:09.29 | MoonWitch | cosmos I tried too |
| 14:09.33 | Lothaer | too laggy |
| 14:09.34 | RogueShadow | ~RogueShadow |
| 14:09.34 | purl | it has been said that rogueshadow is pretty cool guy |
| 14:09.42 | Mire | i am a HUGE fan of photek ui, but photek is no where to be found! |
| 14:09.44 | MoonWitch | couldn't even get it set up correctly LOL |
| 14:09.51 | xyu` | I think the longest addon i ever used was Nymbia's purl. :P |
| 14:09.54 | Mire | ~Mire |
| 14:09.55 | purl | from memory, mire is Miroslav Madzarevic, mire@modperldev.com |
| 14:10.06 | MoonWitch | and I tested All Deuce UI |
| 14:10.11 | xyu` | Where has nymbia been anyway? |
| 14:10.20 | MoonWitch | ~Nymbia |
| 14:10.21 | purl | such a cheater. a noob |
| 14:10.24 | Mire | ~mirether |
| 14:10.25 | MoonWitch | no that's not it |
| 14:10.25 | RogueShadow | ~seen Nymbia |
| 14:10.28 | purl | nymbia <n=nymbia@71-218-149-62.hlrn.qwest.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 4d 10h 33m 1s ago, saying: 'Ellipsis: grats!'. |
| 14:10.31 | MoonWitch | yeah that one I think Rogue |
| 14:10.32 | MoonWitch | lol |
| 14:10.38 | Lothaer | the next pack of mods i used was Insomniax |
| 14:10.45 | MoonWitch | never used those |
| 14:10.47 | Lothaer | thst was pretty sweet back in the day lol |
| 14:10.52 | xyu` | i've never used packs |
| 14:10.56 | Lothaer | it was a compilation of mods |
| 14:11.04 | Lothaer | thats how i started |
| 14:11.09 | MoonWitch | well, I never found a pack to meet my needs/wants |
| 14:11.10 | xyu` | they always added like 10 addons for rogues |
| 14:11.13 | Lothaer | id download packs and deletewhat i didnt want |
| 14:11.22 | Lothaer | then i just made my own compilations |
| 14:11.28 | Mire | someone fix photekui |
| 14:11.29 | MoonWitch | so I ended up tearing down the All Deuce UI - keeping bits I likes |
| 14:11.36 | Mire | its totally broken |
| 14:11.44 | deltron | what's photekui? |
| 14:11.45 | MoonWitch | and somehow I ended up on wowace |
| 14:12.01 | xyu` | hmm i forget what actually brought me to wowace |
| 14:12.04 | Mire | deltron: hold on, i'll get a link |
| 14:12.05 | MoonWitch | http://wow.curse.com/downloads/details/3459/ |
| 14:12.10 | Lothaer | any who here would play a Pokem MMO even for fun? |
| 14:12.15 | Lothaer | i wopuld |
| 14:12.17 | deltron | I realized I've been running ace mods for a long while |
| 14:12.35 | dieck | I started with Cosmos. Don't remind me of packs :) |
| 14:12.36 | Mire | loth: only if it was on the wii |
| 14:12.36 | *** join/#wowace Jagobah (n=jago7777@adsl-32-170-27.owb.bellsouth.net) |
| 14:12.40 | kenlyric | i switched when 2.0.1 came out and most of my mods broke and most of them had ace versions that worked :) |
| 14:12.41 | xyu` | I actually thing it was bigwigs that brought me over to ace |
| 14:12.43 | deltron | I was using BigWigs back in MC days :P |
| 14:12.53 | kenlyric | and then it was like, zomg, 1/3 mem usage |
| 14:12.54 | Lothaer | no a proper MO - think WoW but with Pokemon |
| 14:13.08 | Mire | delt: http://wow.curse.com/downloads/details/3459/ |
| 14:13.12 | Mire | moon linked it |
| 14:13.25 | MoonWitch | well the biggest diff photekui and mine is uhm well - the 3 chatframes, I only have 2 |
| 14:13.43 | MoonWitch | my buttons are in 3 lines, in between my guild/party and all other shit |
| 14:13.54 | Mire | moon, UI SS STAT! |
| 14:14.00 | Lothaer | ok can i jsut get some1 to see if im correct here plz |
| 14:14.12 | MoonWitch | Mire, lol no |
| 14:14.16 | Lothaer | 1 Ace mod vs 1 normal mod the normal mod uses less memory right? |
| 14:14.17 | MoonWitch | it's not done yet ;) |
| 14:14.18 | Lothaer | BUT |
| 14:14.22 | kenlyric | cosmos is like your first talent tree. A horrible mess, but everyone did it. |
| 14:14.24 | deltron | what |
| 14:14.30 | dieck | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:14.31 | MoonWitch | kenlyric, agreed |
| 14:14.38 | Lothaer | a pack of Ace mods vs a pack of normal mods the Ace mods win right? |
| 14:14.48 | *** join/#wowace Jagobah (n=jago7777@adsl-32-170-27.owb.bellsouth.net) |
| 14:14.55 | kenlyric | you were a noob, you went online and searched for "wow user interface" and got 3000 results for cosmos :) |
| 14:15.03 | deltron | lol |
| 14:15.06 | Lothaer | ROFL |
| 14:15.06 | dieck | I'd say, packs provide a lose-lose-Situation, so no one wins :) |
| 14:15.17 | MoonWitch | I love photekui's party setup |
| 14:15.27 | Mire | i agree moon |
| 14:15.34 | Mire | thats what i loved |
| 14:15.44 | Mire | along with how light/minimal it was |
| 14:15.45 | MoonWitch | gotta implement that in mine |
| 14:15.54 | Lothaer | hey is there a mod that can give a estimate of how much damage Power Word: Shield has left? |
| 14:15.56 | MoonWitch | just one issue, how the hell do I accomplish that in PitBull |
| 14:16.07 | Lothaer | i used to have one but i cant remember the name of it |
| 14:16.18 | deltron | nothing special about photekui :P |
| 14:16.20 | Mire | hey moon, if you are staying to photek style, i'd love to see your mod/use it when you finish it |
| 14:16.26 | Mire | the compilation that is. |
| 14:16.40 | MoonWitch | when it's optimal, then yeah I will shove it on the net somewhere :) |
| 14:16.50 | xyu` | i've lost Quagmirran's Eye to 3 different shadowpriests. i hate joo SP's! everywhere! |
| 14:16.52 | xyu` | die |
| 14:16.52 | supp | got a screenshot MoonWitch ? |
| 14:17.01 | MoonWitch | I refuse to have stuff that duplicated functions. |
| 14:17.05 | deltron | my raiding UI is a mess |
| 14:17.08 | MoonWitch | uhm not one of the current look |
| 14:17.16 | *** join/#wowace itafroma (n=itaf@ool-4352ad01.dyn.optonline.net) |
| 14:17.17 | Mire | XYU, why do you have the need for quags eye? |
| 14:17.24 | Mire | get the crusade card. |
| 14:17.25 | supp | one of the looks before? |
| 14:17.26 | xyu` | what else to get? |
| 14:17.28 | Mire | and the icon |
| 14:17.30 | Mire | and stop qqing |
| 14:17.31 | xyu` | i have icon |
| 14:17.32 | deltron | http://img229.imageshack.us/img229/2586/wowscrnshot092407210339ox8.jpg <-- my current UI :P |
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| 14:18.07 | xyu` | which card? |
| 14:18.14 | Mire | Delt: PEWPEWLAZORZ |
| 14:18.22 | deltron | pew pew indeed |
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| 14:18.40 | MoonWitch | holy shit, how do you see anything with that |
| 14:18.43 | xyu` | 97BM |
| 14:18.44 | Mire | i feel like i'm in starcraft somehere. |
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| 14:18.50 | xyu` | 97MB, yikes :) |
| 14:18.57 | Kahlas | deltron you scurvy sheister bastard |
| 14:19.00 | Mire | xyu: Darkmoon Card: Crusade |
| 14:19.03 | Kahlas | :P |
| 14:19.15 | Lothaer | here a pic of my UI when im just bumming around in Shat http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h10/lothaer/WoWScrnShot_092407_084932.jpg |
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| 14:20.13 | MoonWitch | I still need to find a good way to set up raids |
| 14:20.22 | MoonWitch | I used xrs, but never got it working ok |
| 14:20.23 | Lothaer | o btw who wants to see a pic of hte Headless Horseman that is part of the Hallow End feast? |
| 14:20.26 | MoonWitch | same with ORA2 |
| 14:20.39 | MoonWitch | http://s100.photobucket.com/albums/m17/kaymoonwitch/?action=view¤t=WoWScrnShot_092207_161950.jpg |
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| 14:20.49 | MoonWitch | that's the last ss I have LOL |
| 14:20.59 | Morgado | Guys, is there any addon like Scrolling Combat Text? But an updated one |
| 14:21.10 | Mire | XYU: http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Arthas&n=Telari |
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| 14:21.24 | Lothaer | hey Elli u use a shit tonne of mods right? |
| 14:21.29 | genetik- | Morgado: updated how? |
| 14:21.36 | deltron | Kahlas: lol |
| 14:21.38 | alext | theres alternates to SCT like "Parrot" |
| 14:21.39 | CIA-22 | 03jncl * r50053 10Skinner/ (AddonSkins/Skillet.lua CharacterFrames2.lua UIElements2.lua): |
| 14:21.39 | CIA-22 | Skinner: Fix for FriendsFrame Tab error |
| 14:21.39 | CIA-22 | - Updated Skillet skin |
| 14:21.39 | CIA-22 | - Skin ItemSocketingDescription Tooltip |
| 14:21.41 | deltron | Kahlas: sup foo |
| 14:21.43 | alext | prob some others |
| 14:21.48 | Morgado | Scrolling Combat Text is not updated for long time now |
| 14:21.56 | genetik- | Morgado: updated how? |
| 14:21.56 | Lothaer | blizzard ingame Floating Combat Text? |
| 14:22.00 | Hjalte | Morgado, Pitbull is a scrolling combat text addon updated for 2.2... But it doesnt look exactly like SCT. |
| 14:22.10 | MoonWitch | I found a better one lemme upload |
| 14:22.13 | alext | you mean Parrot not pitbull |
| 14:22.14 | deltron | Kahlas: roll horde plz kthx |
| 14:22.15 | alext | ;] |
| 14:22.24 | Morgado | I dont like the built in combat text |
| 14:22.24 | dieck | hm, I thought Pitbull was a unit frame addon for raids or such? |
| 14:22.26 | genetik- | i've been using SCT and it's been working just fine |
| 14:22.37 | Hjalte | alext, yeah, parrot :) <-- Morgado |
| 14:22.40 | alext | SCT has been updated on files.wowace.com within the past month I am pretty sure |
| 14:22.48 | alext | i thought that guy was moving to another SVN tho |
| 14:23.02 | Morgado | ah, thanks alext |
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| 14:23.46 | Morgado | what about itemrack, is there any page that has it updated? |
| 14:23.48 | FerretODoom | question i am trying to get my addons to work under the new patch i used the updater but it still is showing my addons are out of date |
| 14:24.02 | MoonWitch | http://s100.photobucket.com/albums/m17/kaymoonwitch/?action=view¤t=wowss.jpg chatbar isn't there anymore, fubar is top autohide (center of fubar shows duratek, performance, quests) bagbar + micromenu autohide bottom right |
| 14:24.07 | abbat_w | I use old ItemRack |
| 14:24.10 | abbat_w | works fine for me |
| 14:24.31 | Morgado | yeah, it works fine, just wondering if it was ever updated since then |
| 14:24.34 | Lothaer | Ferret: click "Use out of date AddOns" |
| 14:24.38 | dieck | FerretODoom: did you switch on "load out of date addons" on the addon interface (button left bottom on the characters chooser screen)? |
| 14:24.49 | MoonWitch | oh yes, the minimap now has the same borders as the chat thing |
| 14:24.56 | FerretODoom | no i had not |
| 14:25.00 | Lothaer | lol |
| 14:25.01 | Kahlas | deltron, i did reroll horde :P |
| 14:25.08 | FerretODoom | ok will try |
| 14:25.19 | dieck | FerretODoom: some addon developers have not yet updated their addons, they'll work (in most cases) though -- therefore you have to switch that option on |
| 14:25.50 | Kahlas | http://www.break.com/pictures/improper-pinata-play365430.html |
| 14:26.48 | Morgado | what do you guys think its better, DBM or BW |
| 14:27.34 | Lothaer | BW |
| 14:27.37 | Funkeh` | Morgado: What do YOU think is better |
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| 14:28.09 | Morgado | I never tried BW so far, just tried DBM, that's why I'm asking |
| 14:28.13 | Lothaer | heres a pic of all the mods i have http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h10/lothaer/mymods.jpg |
| 14:28.17 | Funkeh` | Ahh |
| 14:28.20 | Funkeh` | Try it out |
| 14:28.23 | Lothaer | yeah |
| 14:28.24 | Funkeh` | then come tell us :) |
| 14:28.33 | Funkeh` | with reasons ofc |
| 14:28.36 | Morgado | no one asked :P |
| 14:28.36 | MoonWitch | holy cow that's clean Lothaer |
| 14:28.38 | Lothaer | its kind alike Titan vs FuBar make you own decision and use what u think is better |
| 14:28.44 | Lothaer | what? |
| 14:28.48 | MoonWitch | I have uhm ... 260 or so folders |
| 14:28.52 | Lothaer | lol |
| 14:28.53 | Funkeh` | Input is always welcome Morgado |
| 14:28.57 | MoonWitch | but I run without ext ;) |
| 14:28.58 | kenlyric | deadly bossmods has whisper feature. Clearly superior! |
| 14:29.28 | Lothaer | not really |
| 14:29.35 | Funkeh` | kenlyric: Theres BossWhisperer if you miss that particular feature |
| 14:29.53 | Lothaer | its just tells people that ur in a fight boss % alive/dead and how long uve been fighting for |
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| 14:30.29 | Lothaer | moon so me a pic of all ur mods |
| 14:30.31 | kenlyric | I said CLEARLY SUPERIOR! |
| 14:30.34 | FerretODoom | ok they loaded but i am getting error report screens |
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| 14:30.55 | Lothaer | Ferret ill assume ther eall Ace mods? |
| 14:31.15 | MoonWitch | how about I list them in a txt file (they don't fit on 1 ss) |
| 14:31.56 | FerretODoom | yes |
| 14:31.59 | charon | doh, you obviously need to get a bigger screen </troll> |
| 14:32.37 | Lothaer | lol |
| 14:32.43 | MoonWitch | charon, I've been trying yes. but since mom keeps clearing my damn account I have 2 options wait til hell freezes over or buy one on dcredit |
| 14:32.47 | MoonWitch | credit* |
| 14:32.49 | Lothaer | Ferret u use WAU right? |
| 14:32.56 | FerretODoom | yes |
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| 14:34.03 | MoonWitch | there ya go Lothaer |
| 14:34.13 | Grum | \World of Warcraft\Interface\Addons> ... 339 Dir(s) ... |
| 14:34.16 | Grum | right ^^ |
| 14:34.19 | deltron | Kahlas: heh doh |
| 14:34.20 | Morgado | can someone tell me what is a SVN |
| 14:34.29 | Lothaer | moon try that again plz |
| 14:34.33 | MoonWitch | Sub Version Network? |
| 14:34.37 | MoonWitch | ~svn |
| 14:34.37 | purl | Subversion (aka SVN) is version control software that aims to be a better CVS than CVS. See http://subversion.tigris.org/. |
| 14:34.40 | dieck | Morgado: a storage for developers |
| 14:34.58 | Morgado | But is that a type of a release? |
| 14:35.02 | Morgado | like alpha or beta? |
| 14:35.06 | Grum | it's not storage |
| 14:35.13 | Grum | it's version control software, nothing else :) |
| 14:35.25 | Grum | and svk > svn |
| 14:35.41 | dieck | it's more like work in progress, but should be never broken, as a rule is "never upload anything that breaks something else". Or somehting like this :) |
| 14:35.54 | siIentium | it's a system for developers to handle multiple versions of their software source code they are developing |
| 14:36.08 | MoonWitch | Lothaer, did you get it? |
| 14:36.13 | SunTsu | Hey dieck ;) |
| 14:36.19 | dieck | SunTsu! |
| 14:36.38 | Lothaer | its till working lol, this is kinda like the 1st time for me lol |
| 14:36.49 | SunTsu | stranges people around here ;) |
| 14:36.54 | Grum | trunk should be working, the rest you should not care less about |
| 14:36.56 | SunTsu | strangest, even |
| 14:36.59 | dieck | the linux kind of people ;) |
| 14:37.25 | SunTsu | Hehe, in a windows game's channel ;) |
| 14:37.32 | Morgado | in DBM site I see two versions of the addon, the 2.71 and the SVN, by your explanation I assume it is like an alpha version with new stuff that is still being developed? |
| 14:37.55 | Grum | SVN has the latest patches, but also has the risk of having broken patches |
| 14:37.57 | charon | shh, don't wake up politics or they might eat you |
| 14:37.59 | dieck | SunTsu: you CAN play it on wine, I heard :) |
| 14:38.01 | Grum | (in your case Morgado) |
| 14:38.08 | Morgado | Ok, I got it |
| 14:38.18 | SunTsu | dieck: I know, but on FBSD i wasn't very successfull |
| 14:38.22 | dieck | SunTsu: but I have to admit, I play on Win. My notebook has not enough power to play in wine with 1400x1050 ;) |
| 14:38.50 | dieck | and I decided on T60, not PowerBook, so no choice ;) |
| 14:38.55 | charon | ATI card huh |
| 14:39.06 | dieck | works well |
| 14:39.09 | deltron | dieck: good choice :) |
| 14:39.10 | SunTsu | dieck: I just ordered a new cpu a new mobo and some new RAM, so then I will try again with wine |
| 14:39.12 | dieck | 45 fps on 1400x1050 |
| 14:39.16 | deltron | I just got a T61 :) |
| 14:39.21 | MoonWitch | Lothaer, http://wow.other-net.com/addons.txt should do it |
| 14:39.25 | Grum | dieck: that is only limited by not having an nivida card |
| 14:39.32 | Lothaer | yup yup thanks |
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| 14:39.37 | deltron | Grum: mine's got an nvidia card in it :D |
| 14:39.44 | charon | dieck: the linux ati driver sucks beyond words... though i have to admit i haven't got around to trying the 8.40 version yet |
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| 14:39.51 | dieck | Grum: yes, nvidia would have been nice, but I didn'nt want the T61 :) |
| 14:39.53 | Grum | deltron: then linux works as well as windows |
| 14:40.11 | dieck | Grum: I have 4:3, 1400x1050. And the ATI 1400 does 45fps nicely, so I don't need more :) |
| 14:40.11 | Lothaer | wooot another MetaMap fan ^^ |
| 14:40.19 | Grum | Cartographer > * |
| 14:40.22 | deltron | not been able to have enough time to install linux |
| 14:40.34 | MoonWitch | well I am testing Metamap |
| 14:40.35 | MoonWitch | lol |
| 14:40.45 | deltron | not to mention a lot of stuff doesn't work in linux at work :( |
| 14:40.47 | Lothaer | all i use from MetaMap is MetaMap and MetaMap FWM |
| 14:40.56 | Lothaer | i also use Atlas and AtlasLoot |
| 14:41.07 | Grum | what makes metamap good? |
| 14:41.09 | Lothaer | IMHO Atlas > Cartographer |
| 14:41.21 | [Ammo] | use what you like shrug |
| 14:41.29 | Morgado | another thing guys, I use Damage Meters addon to track damage in raid, etc, but altough I always sync it in the begin, not all the ppl get the sync and data ends being innacurate, is there any other addon to make this job? I don't know any |
| 14:41.29 | [Ammo] | it's mostly a matter of opinion |
| 14:41.30 | Grum | no! we have to force people to use the right thing! |
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| 14:41.40 | [Ammo] | Morgado: Violation |
| 14:41.41 | nevcairiel | imho my not yet written map mod > carto |
| 14:41.41 | nevcairiel | :P |
| 14:41.45 | Grum | Morgado: swstats works well |
| 14:41.45 | [Ammo] | haha nevc |
| 14:41.45 | SunTsu | .o0( I just switched from MetaMap to Cartographer, but I just can't find a way to import my notes ) |
| 14:41.48 | Kahlas | Morgado, violation is excellent |
| 14:41.55 | Kahlas | and i believe it works with sw_stats |
| 14:41.56 | MoonWitch | personafk |
| 14:41.58 | Grum | nevcairiel: what's the winning feature? :D |
| 14:42.07 | nevcairiel | no bloat |
| 14:42.09 | Wobin | I like recount |
| 14:42.15 | [Ammo] | Kahlas: it does not work with swstats, it just spies the sws comms and injects the data for those players into it's own dataset |
| 14:42.15 | Morgado | so I should use SWstats with violation? |
| 14:42.18 | Lothaer | heres my mod ive been working on for awhile lol http://wowui.incgamers.com/?p=mod&m=3095 |
| 14:42.23 | [Ammo] | no, you use either |
| 14:42.27 | Grum | SunTsu: http://dl.dwim.org/~ebroes/nodes.tar.gz for mining/herbalism data ^^ |
| 14:42.30 | Kahlas | [Ammo], wouldn't that qualify as working with sw_stats? |
| 14:42.33 | xyu` | i also use recount, however when i compare my meters to other addons, it seems my numbers are smaller |
| 14:42.37 | Wobin | yeah |
| 14:42.44 | Lothaer | well its not technicely mine i've just been updating it for ages |
| 14:42.45 | Lothaer | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:42.50 | [Ammo] | Kahlas: it does not send data to sws |
| 14:42.51 | Wobin | my problem with recount (and other dm mods) is that I can never be sure of accuracy |
| 14:42.52 | SunTsu | Grum: I know that. I just want _my_ notes in it |
| 14:43.02 | [Ammo] | recount gives an boatload of info |
| 14:43.04 | Wobin | But I like recount for all the fight data |
| 14:43.06 | [Ammo] | which is pretty cool |
| 14:43.07 | Kahlas | partially works with sw_stats then :P |
| 14:43.07 | Wobin | and death info |
| 14:43.10 | Wobin | and CC breaks etc |
| 14:43.13 | [Ammo] | but I like my stuff small |
| 14:43.14 | xyu` | i like recount for "current fight" |
| 14:43.18 | xyu` | or even previous fights |
| 14:43.19 | Wobin | like I can see how a raidmember fights |
| 14:43.19 | Codayus | WWS with several logs > *? |
| 14:43.27 | [Ammo] | WWS > * indeed |
| 14:43.29 | xyu` | also i like to see the average damage, etc. |
| 14:43.30 | dieck | recount would be great, if i does not loose the data after a person leaves the raidgroup :) |
| 14:43.31 | Wobin | what talents/spells/skills he uses etc |
| 14:43.33 | [Ammo] | for proper analyssi |
| 14:43.34 | dieck | or is that fixed? |
| 14:43.39 | Kahlas | Wobin, people focus too heavily on damage meters anyway |
| 14:43.41 | Wobin | dieck: You can set it to remember it |
| 14:43.49 | Grum | SunTsu: i think carto has metamap import stuff somewhere |
| 14:43.51 | Kahlas | causes them to do things in order to top the list rather than doing things because they are smart |
| 14:43.56 | Wobin | Kahlas: Well, yeah, that's why I like recount, cause it -shows- me how they play |
| 14:43.57 | Kahlas | they play for overall damage |
| 14:44.01 | Kahlas | instead of trying to help the raid |
| 14:44.16 | SunTsu | Grum: I know it has, I already found the module, but I just can't get it to do it ;) |
| 14:44.22 | xyu` | yeah, those decurse / dispel counts are useful ^_^ |
| 14:44.22 | dieck | Wobin: oh, I never found that option. I'll ahve a closer look -- or is it hidden in some way? :) |
| 14:44.23 | Grum | lol |
| 14:44.24 | Wobin | If a hunter is outdpsing me, and they have the same spec, I can see what percentage of what type of shot they use etc |
| 14:44.27 | Chompers | dieck: it was never broken in the first place |
| 14:44.41 | Wobin | dieck: In the settings, there's a whole lot of checkboxes, check the "out of party" ones |
| 14:44.47 | dieck | Wobin: and for accuracy, we use Omen in our raids, so recount should be the most accurate you can get. |
| 14:44.51 | [Ammo] | wobin, how's mrplow2 coming along :p |
| 14:44.53 | Grum | Codayus: from what i've seen you dont really need multiple logs for WWS to be ok |
| 14:44.58 | Morgado | Yeah Kahlas, I aggree with you, but its always nice to keep track of at least the minimum damage ppl do to check if they are slacking, I mean, if a rogue has just a small percentange of damage above a tank something is wrong |
| 14:45.00 | Wobin | [Ammo]: <.< |
| 14:45.00 | Kalman| | Grum: Depends on the fight. |
| 14:45.01 | Wobin | >.> |
| 14:45.11 | CIA-22 | 03renchap * r50054 10JumpCounter/JumpCounter.toc: JumpCounter: Version Bump |
| 14:45.12 | Grum | Kalman|: howso? |
| 14:45.13 | [Ammo] | recount is just as accurate as assessment and violation |
| 14:45.19 | Lothaer | ~poke everyone |
| 14:45.20 | purl | ACTION cuts down a small tree, sneaks up behind everyone, pokes everyone repeatedly, hilarity ensues. |
| 14:45.20 | [Ammo] | they all use the same Parser-3.0 backend |
| 14:45.21 | Kahlas | Morgado, indeed. i do run a damage meter myself though i try not to focus on it too much |
| 14:45.23 | [Ammo] | -> they all get the same data |
| 14:45.31 | Kalman| | Some fights occur inside more limited space than others. |
| 14:45.38 | Chompers | more people that use it = more accurate it becomes |
| 14:45.40 | Codayus | Grum: My experience is for a 25 man raid, 1 log will do, 2 logs adds a lot of accuracy, and 3 logs is almost perfect. |
| 14:45.42 | Grum | Kalman|: like? :) |
| 14:45.55 | [Ammo] | Codayus: indeed |
| 14:45.57 | Grum | what fights need multiple logs then? |
| 14:45.59 | dieck | Codayus: for WWS? |
| 14:46.02 | Codayus | Yes. |
| 14:46.05 | Morgado | is swstats an ace addon? |
| 14:46.08 | Kahlas | no |
| 14:46.10 | Grum | the stats always sync up perfectly with swstats |
| 14:46.10 | Kalman| | 4H required a lot of logs because each corner only sees 3 corners, for example. Alar's room is huge. Those fights benefit. Morogrim is all in the same area, so who cares. |
| 14:46.12 | Kalman| | Etc. |
| 14:46.12 | [Ammo] | Morgado: no, sws is though |
| 14:46.20 | xyu` | recount seems to increase my Mem usage a lot. Did other DPS meters dot his too and i just wans't aware? |
| 14:46.20 | [Ammo] | Grum: that's because of how they sync |
| 14:46.21 | Morgado | sws? |
| 14:46.23 | kenlyric | what new commands did custom channels get? |
| 14:46.26 | [Ammo] | it seems everyone has the same data |
| 14:46.32 | [Ammo] | but sws is actually quite inacurate |
| 14:46.33 | Kalman| | xyu`: Recount stores a ton of data. |
| 14:46.39 | xyu` | like if i go a few days , solo farming w/o resetting recount, it's up in the 15-20 MB range :P |
| 14:46.50 | Grum | [Ammo]: the raw numbers arent, breakdown might |
| 14:46.51 | [Ammo] | I need to find that screenshot, shows it clearly :) |
| 14:46.54 | Codayus | Assuming everyone has maxed combat log range...hmm, 1 log is probably good enough. But people crash, or release, or aggro stuff in halways, or whatever... |
| 14:46.56 | [Ammo] | the raw numbers are wrong as well |
| 14:47.04 | [Ammo] | sws for instance doesn't count the DoT part of fireballs |
| 14:47.06 | [Ammo] | amongst things |
| 14:47.23 | Kahlas | does it get ignites? |
| 14:47.27 | Grum | but which fights give problems with WWS? |
| 14:47.33 | Lothaer | woot the annouce how much extra damage +healing will give |
| 14:47.36 | xyu` | sws is counting something else though, when i compare SWS to recount, SWS almost always has higher numbers for dmg |
| 14:47.39 | Morgado | how can increase combat log range? |
| 14:47.47 | Grum | i can only imagine Magtheridon/Gruul/Karathress |
| 14:47.50 | Codayus | Oh, Gruul could, for example. |
| 14:47.55 | Morgado | can I* |
| 14:47.56 | dieck | Recount syncs via Threat-library, so everyone who has Omen, Recount, Pitbull, or any other addon which uses Threat will sync perfectly well |
| 14:47.56 | kenlyric | recount has a slider for it. |
| 14:47.57 | [Ammo] | Grum: kael'thas |
| 14:47.58 | Wobin | Recount gives an option for that I think |
| 14:48.01 | Kahlas | Morgado, there are mods to do that |
| 14:48.04 | Kahlas | Violation will do it for you |
| 14:48.11 | Morgado | ok, nic |
| 14:48.16 | Morgado | nice* |
| 14:48.18 | [Ammo] | dieck: threat also uses the Parser-3.0 backend |
| 14:48.19 | Grum | [Ammo]: so you are required to have people stand with combatlogs on diff spots? |
| 14:48.32 | dieck | I think LoggerHead will too, and can turn on logging based on your zone |
| 14:48.34 | [Ammo] | Grum: if you want the most accurate data yeah |
| 14:48.36 | Codayus | When you merge logs, WWS tells you how much data was gained from the merge, it's usually a few percent, and at that, probably not relevant (ie, boss fights). |
| 14:48.45 | Lothaer | WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOT, DRUID REBIRTH CD GOING DOWN TO 20MINS |
| 14:48.48 | Morgado | violation was updated less than 1 minute ago, nice aim I have :P |
| 14:48.55 | Grum | [Ammo]: do you actually do that? multiple logs? |
| 14:48.57 | xyu` | ~WWS |
| 14:49.04 | Lothaer | ~wwe |
| 14:49.06 | [Ammo] | Grum: sometimes |
| 14:49.13 | [Ammo] | Grum: most of the time it's not needed |
| 14:49.14 | Grum | any way to set that up nicely? |
| 14:49.15 | xyu` | what is wws? >< |
| 14:49.21 | Grum | wowwebstats |
| 14:49.23 | xyu` | o |
| 14:49.24 | [Ammo] | Grum: other than send me your logs |
| 14:49.25 | [Ammo] | no |
| 14:49.28 | Codayus | At raid end, anyone who was logging and remembers sends their log to the guy who does that kinda thing. Usually get 3 logs, sometimes 1-2, sometimes 4. |
| 14:49.32 | CIA-22 | 03jerry * r50055 10ItemBonusLib/ItemBonusLib-1.0/ItemBonusLib-1.0.lua: ItemBonusLib: add EMPTY_SOCKET_* patterns. |
| 14:49.34 | Grum | http://wowwebstats.com/ |
| 14:49.49 | Grum | [Ammo]: problem is the time that is involved cleaning the logs |
| 14:49.57 | Codayus | Like I said, since everyone is runnin g with maxed range these days, 1 is probably good enough; extras are for redundancy. |
| 14:50.04 | Codayus | Cleaning logs? Hmm? |
| 14:50.12 | [Ammo] | boggle indeed |
| 14:50.13 | Grum | when you hop instance |
| 14:50.18 | Grum | or die in TK and release |
| 14:50.20 | Lothaer | Paladin Crusader Strike Cd reduced to 6 secs |
| 14:50.25 | Grum | and have random people kill stuff outside O.o |
| 14:50.29 | Codayus | Oh |
| 14:50.30 | Codayus | LoggerHead |
| 14:50.31 | [Ammo] | get loggerhead or something |
| 14:50.34 | Grum | mmm |
| 14:50.36 | Codayus | It's on the SVN, I'm sure. |
| 14:50.37 | Grum | is that rawr? |
| 14:50.39 | Lothaer | Fear Ward IS going to all Priests lol YES |
| 14:50.40 | Paradox | anyone know how I can set it so Frenzy shows up on my hunter pets buff bar? |
| 14:50.54 | Grum | Lothaer: not 'yes' at all, now you will be required to cast it |
| 14:51.04 | Lothaer | BA |
| 14:51.05 | Wobin | Lothaer: and the cooldown nerfed =( |
| 14:51.07 | Paradox | oh, in Pitbull |
| 14:51.12 | Lothaer | let the dwarfs and Draenei do it |
| 14:51.19 | Lothaer | atleast that will make the whorde happy :P |
| 14:51.22 | Codayus | I'm already making a macro "Fear ward? Wut? Shadow lol!" |
| 14:51.51 | Wobin | Codayus: Just like my misdirect macro "Squishy? Wut?" |
| 14:51.58 | Lothaer | HAHA rogues blind has a diminsihing effect |
| 14:51.59 | Lothaer | In 2.3 Blind will no longer require a reagent. It will also be changed to a physical attack, will share the same diminish category as Cyclone, and diminish in PvE as well as PvP. |
| 14:52.15 | Wobin | I wonder what they'll do with the cooldown |
| 14:52.23 | xyu` | no more blinding BoP'd targets? :P |
| 14:52.37 | kenlyric | Lothaer: fear ward is going to all priests and getting nerfed to uselessness. Hurrah! |
| 14:52.41 | baer_ | is there an addon, which shows can show me the MTs target lifebar quite large onscreen? |
| 14:52.53 | baer_ | like > 300 px? |
| 14:53.13 | kenlyric | Lothaer: purely a pvp ability now, and I'll appreciate it as that. |
| 14:53.17 | Kalman| | How is Fear Ward getting nerfed to uselessness? |
| 14:53.35 | Wobin | 3min cooldown |
| 14:53.37 | kenlyric | when in a raid do you need to ward fear once every 3 minutes? |
| 14:53.39 | Codayus | Well, maybe this is how Bliz things they're going to force guilds to bring more than 1 holy priest... |
| 14:53.41 | Paradox | you cant blind bop targets anyway can you xyu? |
| 14:53.48 | Kalman| | Bring more than one priest and rotate? |
| 14:53.48 | Lothaer | Fear Ward will be available to all priests at level 20, but there are some changes in addition. Current plans are to reduce duration to 3 minutes, and increase the cooldown to 3 minutes. |
| 14:53.48 | kenlyric | either the tank knows what he's doing, or doesn't. |
| 14:53.49 | xyu` | I believe so, yes |
| 14:53.51 | kenlyric | and woe to druids and pallies. |
| 14:54.01 | kenlyric | nobody brings more than one priest. |
| 14:54.02 | xyu` | It's considered a poison |
| 14:54.02 | deltron | I've never fear warded before so 3 minutes is more than we had :P |
| 14:54.07 | Lothaer | and to make up for it dwarf and draenei priests get this, "To give the dwarves and draenei something else to even it out, they'll see a new ability called Chastise (also given at level 20) which will cause holy damage and incapacitate the target for 2 seconds." |
| 14:54.08 | xyu` | Poison != physical |
| 14:54.15 | Kalman| | We bring 4-6 priests. So, yes, people do. |
| 14:54.16 | xyu` | BoP only protects physical |
| 14:54.20 | kenlyric | unless they move fear ward to disc. |
| 14:54.25 | Kalman| | Of course, 2-3 of them can't FW. :p |
| 14:54.28 | Wobin | In 2.3 Blind will no longer require a reagent. It will also be changed to a physical attack |
| 14:54.28 | Codayus | kenlyric: I wish; we bring 6 or so, usually 3-4 holy. |
| 14:54.32 | xyu` | however, does this mean Blind is no longer dispelable? |
| 14:54.35 | Wobin | It's giong to be physical |
| 14:54.36 | kenlyric | Kalman|: Shadow Priests are not Priest {tm} |
| 14:54.44 | SunTsu | .o0( We normally bring as much priests as we have. Which sometimes is just one ) |
| 14:54.46 | Lothaer | BOOO |
| 14:54.47 | Lothaer | Yes, all shaman will be able to equip 2-handed axes and maces (proper training required of course), without having to spend a talent. In it's place, a seemingly solid replacement talent called elemental focus. Basically, what it offers is this -- after landing a melee critical strike, you'll enter a "focused state". The focused state will reduce the mana cost of your next shock spell by 60%. |
| 14:54.48 | Codayus | Blind cannot be dispelled now. |
| 14:54.56 | Kalman| | Then we bring 2-4 priests. They're perfectly good healers. Get over it, you bitch about it a lot. |
| 14:55.02 | kenlyric | Codayus: exception, not rule. |
| 14:55.06 | xyu` | Codayus: i meant cleanse |
| 14:55.07 | xyu` | sorry |
| 14:55.09 | kenlyric | Kalman|: exception, not rule |
| 14:55.21 | Codayus | xyu`: So did I! And I meant "in 2.3" not "now". |
| 14:55.31 | xyu` | oh |
| 14:55.32 | Codayus | We bring lots of priests, but it's not by choice. |
| 14:55.34 | Kalman| | No. Priests being perfectly good healers isn't an exception. |
| 14:55.44 | kenlyric | I didn't say they weren't good healers. |
| 14:55.47 | Codayus | They're perfectly good healers, but they aren't perfectly good buffers. |
| 14:55.50 | kenlyric | Guilds say that, not me. |
| 14:55.58 | Codayus | "Oh, good, our 5th source of PW:F. Good." |
| 14:55.59 | Kalman| | Not good ones. |
| 14:56.06 | kenlyric | 4 holy priests in a raid is an exception, not the norm. |
| 14:56.06 | Lothaer | any engineers here?? |
| 14:56.12 | Codayus | "Oh, good, our 5th source of Heroism! Kickass!" |
| 14:56.15 | Codayus | See the difference? |
| 14:56.24 | Punkie` | I'm an engineer |
| 14:56.24 | Kalman| | I'd be happy with a second source of heroism, being alliance? |
| 14:56.27 | Lothaer | And for your dedication, flying mounts for engineers only will be available in patch 2.3. There will be normal and epic versions of this mount for you to parade around and show how proud you are to have passed all the exams and call yourself an engineer. |
| 14:56.37 | Punkie` | yeah |
| 14:56.40 | Punkie` | whooptedoo |
| 14:56.44 | cryogen | about time engineers got some love :p |
| 14:56.49 | xyu` | It better be the Bi plane |
| 14:56.53 | Codayus | Kalman|: Ditto. Hence why we have so many holy priests... :-) |
| 14:56.55 | xyu` | biplanes would rock! |
| 14:56.55 | deltron | remote mailboxes |
| 14:56.56 | Punkie` | how can it be a biplane |
| 14:56.59 | Punkie` | they cant hover |
| 14:57.05 | xyu` | hmm |
| 14:57.13 | deltron | how do flying mounts hover now? :P |
| 14:57.14 | xyu` | ya got me there :P |
| 14:57.15 | Lothaer | the Gyrocopter? |
| 14:57.21 | kenlyric | move fear ward to disc and it helps quite a bit. |
| 14:57.22 | Punkie` | by flapping their wings deltron? :P |
| 14:57.29 | Kalman| | Codayus: Well, horde has it a bit better, in that the Nth paladin (N>3) is often less useful than an additional priest. |
| 14:57.42 | Wobin | I don't want any mount that's obviously gnome engineered =P |
| 14:57.46 | kenlyric | What about Light? |
| 14:57.46 | Kalman| | -horde +alliance |
| 14:57.47 | deltron | heh I'm about to main my pally |
| 14:58.00 | Codayus | Kalman|: I'm not sure about LESS useful. But yeah, the 4th pally adds little. Much like the 2nd holy priest. >< |
| 14:58.02 | Kalman| | What about Light? It doesn't change paladins healing *role*. |
| 14:58.03 | deltron | from resto shaman |
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| 14:58.09 | Codayus | Oh well, at least CoH is cool these days. |
| 14:58.13 | Punkie` | I will make the engineering flying mount |
| 14:58.14 | deltron | my pally is not holy :D |
| 14:58.20 | dieck | loladin? |
| 14:58.21 | Morgado | guys, is there a way to put mobinfo calculating health on a non attackable NPC when he is fighting with another NPC? |
| 14:58.21 | Kalman| | People underrate priest healing. It amuses me. That's all. |
| 14:58.24 | Wobin | and yay at PW:S finally scaling =P |
| 14:58.24 | deltron | tankadin |
| 14:58.29 | Grum | would be really cool to have WWS just auto-send logs and sorting them out on the server |
| 14:58.37 | Punkie` | but i will still reroll my engieering to inscription :P |
| 14:58.44 | Grum | so that the owner of the account would just 'select' from where to where it should show on the site |
| 14:58.49 | kenlyric | Kalman|: it doesn't amuse me when I'm trying to find guilds :) |
| 14:58.50 | xyu` | Punkie`: same. |
| 14:58.56 | kenlyric | "we have our priest, kthx" |
| 14:59.09 | Kalman| | kenlyric: Perception problem, not class problem. |
| 14:59.14 | kenlyric | "u shadow?" lols |
| 14:59.20 | Codayus | Kalman|: I am both a priest (and was holy for 90% of my playtime), and a raid leader. I *KNOW* priest healing is fine. You know what? I also know that isn't the problem. |
| 14:59.39 | Punkie` | my guild only really brings 1 holy priest |
| 14:59.45 | Punkie` | 2 shadow priests though :P |
| 15:00.08 | nevcairiel | 1 holy is like all you need |
| 15:00.17 | Codayus | I respecced shadow not beecause I don't enjoy healing (I do), and not because I can't top meters (I can) but because I realized we were better with me shadow, and a different class in the healing slot that brought MORE than "good heals" to the table. |
| 15:00.32 | Grum | Codayus: priestheal < paladin < shaman |
| 15:00.46 | Kalman| | Codayus: Yep. Of course, disc will bring more than "good heals" in 2.3, holy already brings useful healing roles, etc. |
| 15:00.47 | kenlyric | Grum: you fail |
| 15:01.03 | Punkie` | shamans aren't amazing healers, it's just chainheal is smart :P |
| 15:01.04 | Grum | kenlyric: why? :) |
| 15:01.10 | Wobin | hehe yeah |
| 15:01.14 | Grum | yeah chainheal is so overpowered, not funny anymore |
| 15:01.17 | Kalman| | Because shamans are miserable healers on fights without raid damage? |
| 15:01.21 | nevcairiel | on fights where chainheal cnat be used, shamans suck |
| 15:01.25 | Wobin | chainheal is the equivalent of all the smartheal addons =) |
| 15:01.35 | deltron | I beg to differ |
| 15:01.41 | Grum | but there arent that many fights where there is no raid-dmg :) |
| 15:01.43 | deltron | I can outheal most easily with healing wave |
| 15:02.13 | dieck | we'll downsize to 1 holy in near time, I think, having 2 shaman and 1 tree on probation :) The priest will be me. enhanced spirit buff, here I come |
| 15:02.29 | kenlyric | even a second tree brings a second innervate. |
| 15:02.44 | Punkie` | deltron: maybe so, but an equally skilled paladin would probably be better off imho :P |
| 15:02.44 | Grum | druid-tank for that :) |
| 15:02.44 | Kalman| | Trees are wonderful. Abuse lifebloom and you see why. |
| 15:02.45 | Codayus | It's easy to overate shaman healing. They're REALLY REALLY good at most raid healing, but.... |
| 15:02.51 | dieck | and a second battlerezz, if someone is hurt :) |
| 15:02.57 | nevcairiel | we usually run with 2-3 pallys, 2 druids, 1 holy, and 1-2 shamans |
| 15:03.09 | Punkie` | nevcairiel: same |
| 15:03.15 | Grum | we usually have no druids and take 2 more priests |
| 15:03.27 | Kalman| | We usually run 2 of each, or 3/2/2/1. |
| 15:03.28 | Punkie` | btw is anyone finding the sound in 2.2 really annoying? |
| 15:03.32 | Codayus | Take 1 resto shaman and they'll top the charts on most fights. That doesn't mean you should take 7 more. |
| 15:03.53 | kenlyric | it's funny, priests rarely get seriously nerfed. which is why our sudden lack of desire was so shocking. It was a utility, class, and raid size sideways nerf. |
| 15:03.58 | deltron | we have 1 elemental shaman who heals almost full time |
| 15:04.01 | nevcairiel | you should get some druids grum, if played good, they can be essential to every fight ;) |
| 15:04.14 | Grum | nevcairiel: for example on Karathress i rather have no druids |
| 15:04.18 | dieck | deltron: then maybe he should spec resto? |
| 15:04.19 | deltron | we stack our caster group with 1-2 elemental shaman and a moonkin :) |
| 15:04.21 | Codayus | kenlyric: Definetly. 40 to 25 maxraid size had very odd implications for party buffs vs raid buffs. |
| 15:04.23 | nevcairiel | Grum: why? |
| 15:04.23 | kenlyric | raids got smaller, we added another healing class, and our shadow counterparts got more utility. |
| 15:04.27 | xyu` | Punkie`: i am. i can't quite explain why though...oh wait i know what annoys me. Whenever there is a shadowpriest in the group now, it feels like all i hear is VE going off |
| 15:04.28 | Grum | i for some reason have the idea in my head they cant keep 1 tank up while solo-healing it |
| 15:04.29 | SunTsu | Punkie`: I mostly ordered a new CPU to finally can turn off the sound and get winamp making the music |
| 15:04.36 | xyu` | Overpowering everything else, every other sound |
| 15:04.51 | Punkie` | well the sound constantly clips all the time |
| 15:05.03 | xyu` | did you enable reverb? |
| 15:05.06 | nevcairiel | Grum: get some good druids and just test. |
| 15:05.08 | Punkie` | nope |
| 15:05.09 | Grum | xyu`: i had that with the previous soundsystem |
| 15:05.16 | Grum | nevcairiel: but tell me, can they? |
| 15:05.21 | nevcairiel | Grum: of course |
| 15:05.25 | Codayus | And yeah, tree druids definetly deserve a slot or two in a raid, IMHO. |
| 15:05.28 | Grum | because if they are treed they only have hots right? |
| 15:05.32 | Punkie` | Grum: btw, for fathom lord; our mt healer is a druid |
| 15:05.39 | nevcairiel | you can always untree if necessary |
| 15:05.41 | nevcairiel | depends on the fight |
| 15:05.44 | Codayus | The ToL aura is meh, but lifebloom is OP. Inervates and Brez is nice too. |
| 15:05.47 | nevcairiel | plus, lifebloom is teh powerful |
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| 15:06.01 | Grum | hmm how does lifebloom work? |
| 15:06.07 | Grum | it was like low hot and then a hard tick? |
| 15:06.11 | nevcairiel | yea |
| 15:06.11 | Kalman| | Trinket up, apply it, keep it rolling. |
| 15:06.12 | woden | i'm full feral and i can trinket roll life blooms for 660 |
| 15:06.16 | nevcairiel | you can stack it up three times |
| 15:06.24 | nevcairiel | heals with good gear 600-700 per second |
| 15:06.25 | SunTsu | Grum: It is a hot with a instant heal on end of the hot, and it stacks thrice |
| 15:06.25 | Kalman| | Do not ever let it drop unless you can retrinket roll it. |
| 15:06.37 | nevcairiel | (600-700 with three stacks) |
| 15:06.39 | Grum | how long before it 'instaheals' ? |
| 15:06.41 | Kalman| | Our trees heal 1k HPS *just* with lifebloom. |
| 15:06.47 | nevcairiel | Grum: 7s |
| 15:06.49 | Kalman| | And can maintain that on 3-4 targets. |
| 15:06.51 | SunTsu | Grum: If somebody decurses lifebloom it also instantheals |
| 15:06.55 | Grum | damn |
| 15:06.59 | Codayus | Pop trinkets, stack 3 libeblooms on 2-3 tanks, and discovery you can now outheal any two non-druids...forever. Note: Try not to need to move and let it drop off |
| 15:07.06 | nevcairiel | yeah, you can lifebloom 4 targets if you really keep focused |
| 15:07.10 | Grum | how much is the hot and how much is the isntant? |
| 15:07.15 | Eggi | wasn't that fixed with 2.2? |
| 15:07.34 | xyu` | i'm guessing stopcasting is your friend there :P |
| 15:07.52 | Grum | ~200 per hot and .. 4k instant at the end? |
| 15:07.54 | woden | the hot is about 200+ per stack per second |
| 15:07.57 | woden | the instant is around 2k |
| 15:07.57 | Codayus | One tree on one tank is...meh. Probably better with a pally. |
| 15:08.01 | Grum | 2k mm k |
| 15:08.04 | nevcairiel | 2k with crit chane |
| 15:08.07 | nevcairiel | +c |
| 15:08.23 | Codayus | One tree on 2-3 tanks is...significantly better than a pally for tank healing. |
| 15:08.24 | Grum | that indeed is nice for Karathress |
| 15:08.37 | kenlyric | I was trying to come up with direct priest nerfs, but other than PoM, I couldn't think of any. |
| 15:08.37 | Grum | where the dmg is really meager @ start |
| 15:08.43 | SunTsu | Grum: What's even nicer: You can cast it while running |
| 15:08.45 | woden | not a particualry fun or challenging way of playing though imo |
| 15:08.47 | Eggi | so does it work with the trinket and keeping it up without loosing the bonus from the trinket? |
| 15:08.47 | nevcairiel | anyway, druids outheal everyone on trash, if they focus. |
| 15:08.50 | deltron | HoT's are so awesome |
| 15:08.58 | dodga | Hm |
| 15:09.01 | nevcairiel | On Bosses it depends |
| 15:09.10 | deltron | I love having HoT's on my tankadin |
| 15:09.17 | dodga | This new scaling crap messes with my UI |
| 15:09.18 | Grum | nevcairiel: depends, they are dependant on people getting dmg and having dmg more than 1s |
| 15:09.18 | Codayus | Eggi: Lifebloom is a rolling buff. Such things count your stats when they were first cast, and the mobs stats as it ticks. Works for dots, hots, anything. |
| 15:09.24 | dodga | Antagonist got moved far out of my screen |
| 15:09.26 | SunTsu | Grum: Very nice on battlegrounds |
| 15:09.31 | dodga | Also, WitchHunt is MIA :\ |
| 15:09.45 | kenlyric | Codayus: didn't they fix that in 2.2? |
| 15:09.51 | kenlyric | I thought that was the change to scorpions |
| 15:10.04 | nevcairiel | Grum: the HoT part with ticking every second generally heals faster then any direct heal. you should see our SWS from Hyjal, Druids like 30-40% above all other healers. |
| 15:10.06 | Eggi | codayus: imo they 'fixed' it because it was the same with the scorpid |
| 15:10.10 | Codayus | I think they did nerf scorpids, but not that way. Let me check my notes.. |
| 15:10.21 | Grum | nevcairiel: that's rather cool tbh |
| 15:10.29 | Grum | i have the feeling i maxed out my priest |
| 15:10.33 | Grum | and it kinda sucks |
| 15:10.39 | Grum | i have to fight hard to get above a shaman |
| 15:10.42 | Trae | any Druid tanks here? |
| 15:10.53 | dieck | Trae: maybe :) |
| 15:10.57 | Trae | dieck, howdy |
| 15:11.03 | Grum | our GM is a druid tank |
| 15:11.16 | Trae | dieck, you find it useful to toss 2 hots on you and then rush in to boss or mob? |
| 15:11.23 | Trae | Grum, nice |
| 15:11.30 | SunTsu | Trae: Sure |
| 15:11.31 | Grum | nevcairiel: the only reason i can keep up the least bit is because i have mad high mp5 |
| 15:11.36 | [Ammo] | dodga: mia? |
| 15:11.41 | [Ammo] | it works fine here |
| 15:11.42 | [Ammo] | it's not MIA |
| 15:11.43 | Grum | so i can basicly keep chaincasting for a looong time |
| 15:11.43 | kenlyric | how mad high? |
| 15:11.44 | Trae | I guess my question is here |
| 15:11.47 | Tornhoof | nev you probably have no resto shamans in hyjal right? |
| 15:11.53 | Trae | does the hot's help with any healing aggro? |
| 15:11.57 | Grum | kenlyric: ~300 raidbuffed without trinkets popping |
| 15:11.58 | dodga | [Ammoo]: I repositioned it yesterday, after 2.2 went liv |
| 15:12.00 | Eggi | Grum: where are you? content wise... |
| 15:12.02 | nevcairiel | Tornhoof: 1 or so |
| 15:12.03 | Trae | or is it miniscule |
| 15:12.03 | Grum | but i can get ~450 with them popping |
| 15:12.11 | Grum | Eggi: @ Vashj atm, Al'ar down |
| 15:12.11 | dodga | And now, the frame is gone. When I click unlock it's nowhere on my screen :D |
| 15:12.12 | nevcairiel | Tornhoof: still he cant top druids |
| 15:12.13 | SunTsu | Grum: Well, You have to let lifebloom run out, else there is no instant heal |
| 15:12.15 | kenlyric | want to see. |
| 15:12.19 | deltron | no resto shaman in hyjal? |
| 15:12.20 | deltron | wut? |
| 15:12.30 | Tornhoof | at the trash waves, no other healer should ever top a resto shaman |
| 15:12.32 | [Ammo] | anyone here use a dual screen setup with winxp64 and has a suggestion to get a 'screen threshold' ? what I mean is I don't want to move my mouse instantly to the next screen, I on;y want to do that if I apply enough 'force' |
| 15:12.43 | dieck | Trae: mostly, I just hot once, pull by starfire, moonfire depending on range, and then switch form. -- the first 2 to 3 hot ticks are wasted while pulling :) |
| 15:12.47 | deltron | my buddie's guild rolls with 2-3 resto shaman in hyjal |
| 15:12.48 | [Ammo] | dodga: delete WitchHunt.lua from your saved vars |
| 15:12.56 | dodga | Aye captain! |
| 15:12.57 | [Ammo] | or even better |
| 15:12.58 | [Ammo] | one moment |
| 15:13.01 | dodga | okay |
| 15:13.12 | Trae | dieck, wow you suggest using Starfire? I haven't looked at that in forever. |
| 15:13.23 | nevcairiel | Tornhoof: thats where you are wrong :) i can keep up 1000 hps on 3-4 tanks, and tanks get most of the damage, but dont stand close enough to each other for chain healing |
| 15:13.26 | Grum | but seriously, i need to spam my ass off to get above shamans doing the same |
| 15:13.32 | Tornhoof | no nev |
| 15:13.34 | Tornhoof | never |
| 15:13.41 | deltron | no reason to ever chain heal single targets |
| 15:13.42 | Eggi | mt healing? |
| 15:13.49 | [Ammo] | dodga: /script WitchHunt.db.profile.x = nil; WitchHunt.db.profile.y = nil |
| 15:13.49 | Tornhoof | for the trash waves |
| 15:13.52 | [Ammo] | and then /rl |
| 15:13.55 | Tornhoof | i'm constantly way above 2k hps |
| 15:13.58 | dieck | Trae: it'll give you enough aggro over moonfire or even feral faerie that the first healer hots will not put aggro on them :) |
| 15:14.01 | dodga | Meh I hate /rl, but whatever ;D |
| 15:14.05 | Grum | Tornhoof: as shaman? |
| 15:14.08 | Tornhoof | yeh |
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| 15:14.11 | nevcairiel | Tornhoof: 2k hps in total, i am 1k hps on every tank, which ends up at 3-4k hps :P |
| 15:14.11 | Trae | dieck, nice thanks |
| 15:14.13 | Tornhoof | chainheal ;) |
| 15:14.22 | Grum | nevcairiel: that's mad |
| 15:14.27 | Tornhoof | your hots should never tick faster than my chainheal nev |
| 15:14.31 | Tornhoof | no go ;) |
| 15:14.33 | dodga | [Ammoo]: Whee it's back where it was initially |
| 15:14.34 | Tornhoof | your resto sux |
| 15:14.43 | nevcairiel | Tornhoof: it ticks every second, its faster then any direct heal |
| 15:14.45 | dieck | Trae: when pulling multiple mobs I'll starfire one, moonfire another, become bear, and mangle the third. With more then 3 it's gets a little annoying :) |
| 15:14.52 | SunTsu | Trae: I normally don't pull with starfire, what I do is casting rejuvenation on me before pulling and making Bark tree, so the prince doesn't make any noticable damage in the first seconds |
| 15:14.54 | Tornhoof | and chainheal is server supported targeting |
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| 15:15.01 | Codayus | Yeah the scorpid nerf was just to its damage, not to the "rolling buff" mechanic. Lifeblooms still work. |
| 15:15.04 | Tornhoof | your hots have not the slightes chance against that |
| 15:15.11 | Eggi | if the group gets dmg you should be above a shaman... renew with trinket and PI is nice for healing a group |
| 15:15.26 | nevcairiel | as mentioned earlier, the tanks dont stand close enough to each other for chainhealing |
| 15:15.28 | Codayus | Would have been surprised if they changed that mechanic, it shows up in a lot of places. |
| 15:15.32 | nevcairiel | but i can hot them all at 40y range |
| 15:15.46 | Tornhoof | oh well i guess i trained my tanks better than your resto did ;) |
| 15:15.46 | Trae | SunTsu, yah I'm not in Kara+ with my Druid yet :) only 56 . lol he's my new main though.. I'm threw with my priest |
| 15:16.06 | nevcairiel | Tornhoof: we dont care much about shamans, we're alliance, and we only take them for fun :P |
| 15:16.07 | Grum | nevcairiel: you gut-time the rolling of the hots or you have a nice addon showing it? |
| 15:16.14 | Tornhoof | guess so ;) |
| 15:16.24 | SunTsu | Trae: I just wanted to tell you how powerful that is |
| 15:16.27 | nevcairiel | Grum: HotCandy |
| 15:16.30 | Trae | I can say this.... I was helping a lock (63) get her Epic, and we had 70 hunter, 70 mage and 70 lock, and I was able to keep aggro 95% of the time |
| 15:16.38 | Trae | and that waas when I was L55 |
| 15:16.39 | Grum | nevcairiel: got a screen of it in action? |
| 15:16.44 | Codayus | I'm alliance, and we wish we had shamans to lurv. :-( |
| 15:17.01 | deltron | you can have shaman :P |
| 15:17.05 | Grum | Trae: then your lock sucks :D |
| 15:17.05 | deltron | man |
| 15:17.08 | Eggi | nevacairiel: fun? you mean heroism and mana tide |
| 15:17.09 | Trae | Grum, lol |
| 15:17.16 | nevcairiel | Eggi: mostly :P |
| 15:17.16 | deltron | alliance hasn't really learned to love shaman yet??? |
| 15:17.26 | Trae | Grum, perhaps they were smart and DPS's "slowly" |
| 15:17.31 | Grum | hehe |
| 15:17.32 | kenlyric | you can't love that which doesn't exist. |
| 15:17.32 | SunTsu | Trae: Well, if a caster wants to get aggro, he normally can ,) |
| 15:17.34 | Grum | seems so ;D |
| 15:17.37 | nevcairiel | we take 1 or sometimes even two shamans |
| 15:17.48 | Trae | SunTsu, yah I know I have a 70 lock... errrr spriest |
| 15:17.49 | nevcairiel | but we dont design our raid around them like horde guilds do :shrug: |
| 15:17.52 | Grum | with my alt-hunter i do about 550-600tps |
| 15:18.00 | Trae | SunTsu, MB ftl |
| 15:18.00 | Grum | nevcairiel: we take max 2 |
| 15:18.06 | kenlyric | it's the exact same way with horde and pallies. |
| 15:18.25 | Grum | and we try to take at least 3-4 pallies |
| 15:18.26 | Eggi | old archimonde was nearly impossible without shamans.. |
| 15:18.27 | kenlyric | some of them get a misty look when you mention 3 pallies in one raid. |
| 15:18.33 | Codayus | We'd like the chance, but we only have 2 in guild, and one never raids, and the other only signs up for farm nights. :-( |
| 15:18.37 | deltron | most horde guilds I know utilize the heck out of pallies |
| 15:18.38 | Tornhoof | we take 3 pallies for buffs |
| 15:18.39 | Codayus | Shamans, that is. |
| 15:18.43 | phyber | anyone know what's stopping a map of Black Temple from being added to Cartographer? or is it just that nobody bothered to add it yet. |
| 15:18.47 | Grum | Tornhoof: same here |
| 15:19.06 | Grum | phyber: i think the map wasnt ingame yet |
| 15:19.08 | Trae | Heck... I want the ability to know where you are in instance maps. :( |
| 15:19.13 | nevcairiel | we used to take at least 3 pallies for buffs, but i finally got the mind of the other raidleaders changed a bit, that its silly just to pack them for the buffs, so we do it encounter based now |
| 15:19.20 | Trae | (ie see yourself heh) |
| 15:19.32 | nevcairiel | Grum: http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/small7011.jpg (downscalled by WoWI, looks shit i know ) |
| 15:19.36 | Trae | ok crap I need to get me arse back to work. |
| 15:19.53 | phyber | Grum: BT has been in for quite a while now though. |
| 15:20.09 | nevcairiel | noone bothered yet |
| 15:20.22 | nevcairiel | the original author doesnt care, and other people just didnt step up |
| 15:20.30 | phyber | is there some magic script to run to generate the data for it while you're there? |
| 15:20.39 | Grum | nope |
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| 15:20.44 | Grum | it's manual stitching of maptiles |
| 15:20.48 | Grum | have fun |
| 15:20.55 | phyber | ah, that's lame :) |
| 15:20.57 | vhaarr | phyber: nobody bothered |
| 15:21.06 | Health | nevcairiel: what addon was that? |
| 15:21.08 | Grum | nevcairiel: nice |
| 15:21.12 | nevcairiel | Health: HotCandy |
| 15:21.31 | nevcairiel | written by me, for me :P |
| 15:21.32 | Grum | nevcairiel: only useful for Druids right? |
| 15:21.39 | nevcairiel | tracks renew too |
| 15:21.45 | nevcairiel | but thats about it |
| 15:21.49 | Grum | yeah but that's not really useful to track |
| 15:21.54 | nevcairiel | oh and that draenei thing |
| 15:21.57 | Grum | can you use that to cast a new one again? |
| 15:22.01 | Health | What's the difference from like ClassTimers? |
| 15:22.12 | nevcairiel | Grum: nop, thats kinda impossible with 2.0 |
| 15:22.19 | Grum | nevcairiel: guessed so |
| 15:22.26 | Morgado | Guys, there is a new sound option called reverb, what is that? |
| 15:22.30 | nevcairiel | Health: i dont like all the stuff in classtimers, so i designed it to be simple and lightweight |
| 15:22.35 | Health | I see |
| 15:22.42 | Grum | nevcairiel: what raid-ui do you use to heal? gridlover or... ? |
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| 15:22.54 | nevcairiel | Grum: sRaidFrames |
| 15:22.58 | Health | Morgado: Perhaps something that let's you set whether or not you want reverb? |
| 15:23.04 | nevcairiel | i am trying to get used to Clique .. but still struggling :P |
| 15:23.08 | Grum | nevcairiel: thats the old CTRAID lookalike right? |
| 15:23.12 | nevcairiel | Grum: yea |
| 15:23.13 | SunTsu | .o0( I really like Classtimer, but, I will refuse to use it before I have a bigger screen ;) ) |
| 15:23.15 | Grum | horrible :D |
| 15:23.25 | Grum | you should really try grid+clique |
| 15:23.29 | Morgado | I know, but what is reverb, I dont know the word |
| 15:23.30 | nevcairiel | i hate grid |
| 15:23.30 | Grum | it rocks cookies |
| 15:23.33 | nevcairiel | i tried it once |
| 15:23.38 | nevcairiel | not enough information |
| 15:23.40 | Grum | nevcairiel: you have to modify it *A LOT* to make it work |
| 15:23.46 | dieck | i tried grid tree times by now, and can't get used to it |
| 15:23.47 | Grum | and it has enough info after you do that :) |
| 15:23.57 | Grum | what info do you miss? |
| 15:23.58 | Punkie` | Morgado: It's like an echo effect in hallways etc I think |
| 15:24.11 | dieck | so, what exactly do I have to modify to like it? :) |
| 15:24.17 | Grum | depends what you miss |
| 15:24.26 | dieck | health bars |
| 15:24.28 | dieck | :) |
| 15:24.29 | SunTsu | Grid gives me enough information. I just don't understand what it is telling me |
| 15:24.35 | Grum | for example i hated the '4 letter names' |
| 15:24.36 | nevcairiel | Grum: not sure, i just couldnt work with it last time i tried, plus i am used to sRF and like its feature set :) |
| 15:24.38 | Grum | it has healthbars |
| 15:24.45 | Punkie` | I'm not a healer, but I've played a druid in karazhan healing |
| 15:24.51 | Grum | the blocks itself are like health-buckets |
| 15:24.53 | dieck | ok. Then I miss a second screen to get them big enough :) |
| 15:24.57 | Punkie` | I couldn't imagine healing without Grid |
| 15:25.02 | Grum | me neither |
| 15:25.08 | Grum | grid is seriously the best thing *ever* for healing |
| 15:25.11 | Grum | nothing is as compact |
| 15:25.21 | nevcairiel | its not that much smaller tbh |
| 15:25.21 | Grum | combined with click-casting it's nearly instahealing |
| 15:25.30 | Grum | nevcairiel: screenshot? |
| 15:25.36 | Grum | (of your healing UI) |
| 15:25.37 | ennuilg | Grid rocks for so much - I use it with Clique for decursing too... |
| 15:25.39 | Punkie` | well, I used to remember oldschool screenshots of CTRA I used to be glad I wasn't a healer |
| 15:25.45 | nevcairiel | dont think i have a inraid screenshot |
| 15:25.55 | Grum | what kind of layout do you use? |
| 15:25.59 | Grum | 5x5 or 1x25? |
| 15:26.01 | SunTsu | Grum: I just can't get why I have 15 blocks if I turn on 10 man layout *g* |
| 15:26.08 | nevcairiel | a 5x5 |
| 15:26.11 | Grum | SunTsu: i will patch that after my addon is fixed |
| 15:26.13 | Grum | erm created |
| 15:26.30 | Grum | i hate that the 'blocks' arent dynamic |
| 15:26.42 | Grum | i cant care less people are not in the same group |
| 15:26.50 | Grum | i want it to be compressed to a 5xsomething block |
| 15:27.00 | SunTsu | Grum: Oh, it was not intentionally? I always thought it was just me noch being smart enough to understand the sense ;) |
| 15:27.17 | Grum | well, did you turn on 'show own group' or 'show MTs' orso? |
| 15:27.29 | Grum | because my 10-selection is actually 10 not 15 |
| 15:27.42 | Grum | i just hate when you put in grp 1 and grp3 .. it also shows grp2 |
| 15:27.43 | nevcairiel | anyway, i have been healing with sRF for such a long time now .. and i am doing pretty good imho, so i'll just stick to that. cant afford a week of sucky playing just because i adapt to another ui |
| 15:27.47 | Grum | LIKE I CARE FOR THAT DAMMIT :D |
| 15:27.54 | SunTsu | Grum: No, I did not, and I don't have that with any other layout |
| 15:28.00 | Grum | nevcairiel: i used something similar as well |
| 15:28.13 | Grum | but if you really want i can tell you how to get the information out of grid |
| 15:28.26 | Grum | SunTsu: really strange then |
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| 15:28.52 | Grum | what i *love* about grid .. that you can just add a debuff like: 'Watery Grave' - and select that to show the spell-icon on someones grid-square |
| 15:28.57 | Grum | so you know exactly who to run to and shield |
| 15:29.05 | nevcairiel | sRF can do that too |
| 15:29.11 | SunTsu | Grum: I like the idea behind grid, but I really have problems interpreting it |
| 15:29.12 | Grum | or 'Static Discharge' for example |
| 15:29.20 | SunTsu | What color where means what and such |
| 15:29.23 | Grum | or Soulstone Ressurection |
| 15:29.32 | Grum | SunTsu: you have to see it a bit differently |
| 15:29.36 | Grum | on my install you have: |
| 15:30.02 | nevcairiel | arent those block icons so big that you have trouble seeing the healthbar ? :D |
| 15:30.02 | Grum | healbars, manabars, 8 spots for 'indicators', border, 2 textlines, background, center icon |
| 15:30.09 | Grum | not on my setup |
| 15:30.16 | Grum | i dont have 'squares' |
| 15:30.19 | Grum | lets see if i got a screen |
| 15:31.11 | nevcairiel | What i really like about sRF, it shows important PvE buffs, like shieldwall, last stand, iceblock, cloak of shadows .. really useful in alot of fights |
| 15:31.16 | Health | Yes, let's hope you have! |
| 15:31.35 | Grum | mini shot: http://grum.nl/ridiculer.jpg |
| 15:31.39 | Grum | lets find a 25m shot :0 |
| 15:31.59 | Health | Mmm. 25m penis. |
| 15:32.00 | nevcairiel | at least looks better then the default setup |
| 15:32.03 | dieck | what's the second name? target? |
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| 15:32.16 | Grum | http://grum.nl/images/grid.jpg <-- old |
| 15:32.17 | Health | Second name is a second raid member :d |
| 15:32.31 | Grum | http://grum.nl/images/grid2.jpg <-- also old |
| 15:32.37 | nevcairiel | Grum: i dont really think thats smaller then my frames tbh |
| 15:32.41 | Punkie` | Grum: I used the 2 line thing as well like that, however I invert the bar color :p |
| 15:32.59 | Grum | Punkie`: it's in the options - need to start wow to tell you exactly where |
| 15:32.59 | Health | nevcairiel: It's the distance between people that is compact |
| 15:33.18 | Punkie` | Grum: I know, I'm just saying I do that :p |
| 15:33.18 | nevcairiel | Grum: can you switch that to horizontal healthbars instead of vertical? |
| 15:33.22 | Grum | yes |
| 15:33.27 | Grum | you can nev |
| 15:33.34 | Grum | i need a new screenshot |
| 15:33.38 | Grum | i have manabars as well |
| 15:33.38 | nevcairiel | in that wide boxes, vertical looks shit |
| 15:33.50 | Grum | not really |
| 15:33.57 | Grum | lets see |
| 15:34.02 | Grum | one with manabars |
| 15:34.31 | nevcairiel | Grum: did you create that layout yourself or is there some preset for that somewhere? |
| 15:34.36 | Grum | manually |
| 15:34.45 | nevcairiel | meh, i am lazy |
| 15:34.51 | nevcairiel | but it looks better then default |
| 15:35.08 | CIA-22 | 03fenlis * r50056 10Quartz/locale/Quartz-koKR.lua: |
| 15:35.08 | CIA-22 | Quartz: |
| 15:35.08 | CIA-22 | - updated localization koKR |
| 15:35.16 | Grum | i can help you set it up |
| 15:35.19 | Grum | takes ~15m orso |
| 15:35.29 | PProvost | Does anyone know if the Omen/ThreatLib issues from yesterday have been worked out? |
| 15:35.36 | Grum | you can just have it as your 'second' healing screen (who needs to see the fight anyhow) |
| 15:35.42 | Grum | and install clique to work with it |
| 15:35.48 | Grum | i bet you switch within a week |
| 15:36.03 | nevcairiel | do you run only grid or any of the other modules? |
| 15:36.04 | Punkie` | zomg who got the 50000 commit :P |
| 15:36.08 | Grum | it's just so unbelievably sickly fast :) |
| 15:36.11 | nevcairiel | Punkie`: some .toc update |
| 15:36.17 | CIA-22 | 03fenlis * r50057 10QuestAnnouncer/Locale-koKR.lua: |
| 15:36.17 | CIA-22 | QuestAnnouncer : |
| 15:36.17 | CIA-22 | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:36.20 | Grum | i use grid/gridmanabars/gridsideindicators |
| 15:36.35 | Punkie` | anyway, for raiding on my rogue I just use praid |
| 15:36.36 | Grum | and the default settings are completely retarded |
| 15:36.40 | Punkie` | I couldn't heal with it though |
| 15:36.40 | Grum | i have to agree |
| 15:37.03 | Grum | oh i should have a 40m screenshot somewhere |
| 15:37.28 | nevcairiel | grid needs a emulate big-raid setting |
| 15:37.38 | Grum | yes! |
| 15:37.42 | Grum | i agree :( |
| 15:37.58 | Punkie` | you know |
| 15:38.13 | Punkie` | it would be even better if someone just made a 'raidfaker' addon |
| 15:38.20 | Punkie` | unsure if it's possible |
| 15:38.25 | nevcairiel | not that easily |
| 15:38.51 | Punkie` | yeah considering you can't make events |
| 15:38.59 | Grum | nevcairiel: more recent: http://grum.nl/images/grid3.jpg |
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| 15:39.29 | nevcairiel | you should get your gfx checked out o.O |
| 15:39.35 | Grum | yeah that's why i screened it :D |
| 15:39.42 | Grum | my gpu crashed orso ^^ |
| 15:40.15 | Grum | but all info is on that screen, mana, health, out of range, dead, offline whatever :) |
| 15:40.20 | Grum | and all in tiny cubies |
| 15:40.31 | Grum | and it seems the scaling is a bit wonky |
| 15:40.42 | Grum | the right most column indicators arent squarish O.o |
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| 15:41.04 | nevcairiel | heh |
| 15:41.07 | nevcairiel | mm |
| 15:41.13 | nevcairiel | now where do i get a 25man raid for testing |
| 15:41.21 | Punkie` | just go into AV |
| 15:41.22 | Grum | get a 6m raid |
| 15:41.28 | Punkie` | and set it to 25 man |
| 15:41.30 | Punkie` | max |
| 15:41.35 | nevcairiel | Punkie`: meh, cant, server is crappy pvp |
| 15:41.38 | SunTsu | Well, I hope I have time to look into setup before gruul tonight ;) |
| 15:41.48 | Grum | nevcairiel: if you want i can help you when i get home |
| 15:41.58 | Grum | basic setup is just some config work |
| 15:42.16 | Grum | provided you have the addons i should be able to make it look like that in ~10-15m |
| 15:42.25 | SunTsu | Well, I am second tank, but I like to have a overview of the raid |
| 15:42.41 | Grum | then get clique , make it work with grid (or only with grid) and be the most imba sick druid-healer evar |
| 15:42.43 | baer_ | anyone familiar with oRA2 here? |
| 15:42.52 | Grum | only in use baer_ |
| 15:42.58 | nevcairiel | Grum: what does it do when i have it set to 25man, and more people are in raid? |
| 15:43.06 | Grum | not showing them |
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| 15:43.17 | baer_ | Grum: do you know, if you can grow the MTs target to the left, instead to the right? |
| 15:43.27 | Grum | baer_: its an option |
| 15:43.32 | Grum | 'flip sides' orso |
| 15:43.35 | _dreamss | i like grid by class based |
| 15:43.39 | _dreamss | easier to find ppl |
| 15:43.50 | Grum | oe! why would you need to find people? |
| 15:43.56 | cncfanatics | hello people |
| 15:44.20 | baer_ | Grum: tx, i'll try to find it. :-} |
| 15:44.24 | _dreamss | like when an aoe pulls hapen and i need to keep an eye on locks/mages :P |
| 15:44.37 | Paradox | anyone know how to get the pet-buffs Intimidation and Frenzy on the buff bar for pitbull? |
| 15:44.38 | Grum | that's kara right? :P |
| 15:44.42 | Punkie` | btw btw |
| 15:44.46 | Punkie` | go download demon |
| 15:44.47 | Punkie` | its awesome |
| 15:44.50 | Grum | demon? |
| 15:44.55 | _dreamss | hey i done ssc !:P |
| 15:44.56 | SunTsu | Grum: find the one who is missing a buff or to innervate or even to battlerezz |
| 15:45.06 | Punkie` | yep |
| 15:45.09 | Grum | use XRS for buffs |
| 15:45.24 | Grum | or grid-indicators (the light squares are people missing fort for example) |
| 15:45.24 | Punkie` | its good for getting the max out of your raid |
| 15:45.27 | SunTsu | xrs? |
| 15:45.31 | Punkie` | xraidstatus |
| 15:45.32 | Grum | XRS, XRaidStatus |
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| 15:45.39 | Grum | see my screenshot as well |
| 15:45.39 | SunTsu | ah, I see |
| 15:45.44 | Grum | http://grum.nl/images/grid3.jpg |
| 15:46.00 | Grum | 21 people missing fort, 16 int, 24 motw etc |
| 15:46.14 | Grum | 3 people with kings, 3 with salvation and 0 with soulstone |
| 15:46.57 | Grum | oh and the player targets are because i'm a nazi concerning totem-targetting ^^ |
| 15:47.05 | Grum | so i can shout out to people =D |
| 15:47.51 | SunTsu | Grum: I don't want another thing on my interface, it already is as full as it can get |
| 15:47.57 | Codayus | Grum: What, no pDebuffList? :-) |
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| 15:48.03 | Grum | Codayus: what? |
| 15:48.20 | Grum | and yes its a mess |
| 15:48.23 | Grum | still need to clean it |
| 15:48.32 | Grum | but no time and you wankers whine for Carto_routes :( |
| 15:48.34 | Codayus | Addon, lists important debuffs on your target and/or focus. TC/DS/FF/CoE/CoS/etc |
| 15:48.43 | Punkie` | guess who made that :o |
| 15:48.48 | Punkie` | btw |
| 15:48.49 | Grum | Codayus: i use Grid for that |
| 15:48.54 | Grum | if it's important enough it shows an icon |
| 15:48.54 | Codayus | Uh... |
| 15:49.04 | Codayus | No |
| 15:49.05 | Punkie` | Codayus: Download Demon :) |
| 15:49.06 | Grum | or you mean |
| 15:49.07 | Grum | oooh |
| 15:49.07 | Grum | mmmm |
| 15:49.08 | Codayus | Debuffs on the BOSS. |
| 15:49.14 | Grum | mmmmmmmmmmm |
| 15:49.19 | Grum | that is intresting ^^ |
| 15:49.20 | Grum | pics! |
| 15:49.22 | Codayus | So you can scream at your warlocks if they let a curse drop off. |
| 15:49.26 | Grum | (fast) got 30s before i need to leave |
| 15:49.30 | Punkie` | you customise the list now :) |
| 15:49.44 | vhaarr | what are those combat log addons |
| 15:49.46 | vhaarr | eavesdrop |
| 15:49.48 | Codayus | Ooh, demon... |
| 15:49.48 | vhaarr | simplecombatlog |
| 15:49.55 | vhaarr | battlechat? |
| 15:50.07 | Codayus | Can't find a screenshot Grum |
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| 15:50.12 | Punkie` | Codayus: It's effectively pDebuffList2, I just got tired of the name :) |
| 15:50.16 | Grum | hehe |
| 15:50.26 | Grum | WTB a good spot for my chatwindow |
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| 15:50.38 | Codayus | Punkie`: Yes, I see. |
| 15:50.40 | Aeyan | Damn chat windows never fit anywhere |
| 15:51.02 | Codayus | http://www.tallage.co.uk/upload/pDebuffList.jpg |
| 15:51.06 | deltron | I use cellular for whisper windows, it's nice |
| 15:51.13 | SunTsu | .o0( I really need a bigger screen.. ) |
| 15:51.34 | ennuilg | deltron: Have you tried WIM? Which do you prefer? |
| 15:51.38 | Codayus | Except in its current incarnation, instead of N/As, it just hides that half of the frame. Red text lights up green if a debuff is present. |
| 15:51.49 | Grum | ah nice |
| 15:51.57 | Grum | it tracks MT-target |
| 15:51.58 | Grum | ? |
| 15:52.03 | Punkie` | No |
| 15:52.07 | Codayus | No, your target or your focus. (Or both) |
| 15:52.11 | Punkie` | It tracks your target and/or focus target |
| 15:52.16 | deltron | ennuilg: not tried WIM |
| 15:52.16 | Grum | that sucks :D |
| 15:52.22 | Punkie` | it also shows the number of debuffs now |
| 15:52.29 | Grum | might be nice anythow |
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| 15:52.36 | Codayus | But the original is smart enough to know that TC and Thunderfury don't stack, and stuff like that. Nifty. |
| 15:52.37 | Grum | i got those free for due to clickcasting anyhow |
| 15:52.39 | Grum | oh well .. gotto go :D |
| 15:52.43 | Grum | -> home |
| 15:52.46 | ennuilg | deltron: kk |
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| 15:54.23 | Codayus | My problem with pDebufflist (and Demon now, I suppose) is that as a spriest and raid leader, I have too many things to watch. :-/ |
| 15:54.38 | nevcairiel | Grum: can i invert the healthbar? i want the lighter color for health thats there, and the darker for the hp thats gone :P |
| 15:54.39 | ulic | Grum: the "Healers Mana" is just a mana bar based on classes that can heal? In your XRS? |
| 15:55.24 | ulic | oh he left :) |
| 15:55.27 | Codayus | ulic: He's gone, but yeah, it will be. Which doesn't work too well with hybrids these days; XRS doesn't know the difference between a spriest and a healer... |
| 15:55.40 | ulic | yea, that's what I was thinking |
| 15:55.51 | Codayus | Which might not be a bad hack I suppose. Try to track...shadow form, feral form, def stance, etc., and sort people into DPS/healer/tank... |
| 15:56.00 | ulic | oh, I bet it could be hacked to use ckk's new talent thingy maybe |
| 15:56.29 | Codayus | Can you query people's stances now? I vaguely recall that a while back you had to hope you were close enough to see the state change... |
| 15:56.29 | _dreamss | heh |
| 15:56.54 | TNSe | anyone decided on how to update ratingbuster? :P |
| 15:56.55 | Codayus | But I haven't had call to mess with that side of things recently. |
| 15:57.18 | ulic | no, but I think he's got something built into RockComm that can get their spec, like 0/41/10 or whatever |
| 15:57.31 | ulic | that would at least help to tell if they were shadow or feral spec or what not |
| 15:57.54 | Punkie` | or even a simple check to see if they have shadowform active ;) |
| 15:58.23 | ulic | yea, wouldn't get those darn enh sham, & feral druids though, or tankadins |
| 15:58.31 | Codayus | "New daily dungeon quests....The heroic quests will reward 2 Badges of Justice, gold and Consortium faction." |
| 15:58.33 | Punkie` | true |
| 15:58.34 | Codayus | Oooh |
| 15:58.35 | ulic | anyways, I'm not about to tackle adding that, just a thought |
| 15:58.51 | Codayus | Shamans would more or less need a talent query. |
| 15:58.52 | ulic | Codayus: when/where/how? |
| 15:58.59 | Codayus | ulic: 2.3 |
| 15:59.02 | Codayus | http://www.wowblues.com/eu/upcoming-daily-quest-additions-1017251728.html |
| 15:59.04 | ulic | ah |
| 15:59.18 | Codayus | Damn but 2.3 sounds like fun. |
| 15:59.50 | cncfanatics | ulic, darn ? whats wrong with people doing what they want for their cash ? |
| 15:59.55 | Codayus | Ogri'la Faction Vendor: This vendor now sells potions useable anywhere for a large number of Apexis Shards. 50 shards, as good as super mana/heal pots. |
| 15:59.58 | ulic | hopefully it will be faster then 2.2 |
| 16:00.16 | ulic | cncfanatics: huh? |
| 16:00.23 | Codayus | ? |
| 16:00.33 | ulic | I just wanted to know where Codayus was getting his information |
| 16:00.45 | cncfanatics | " yea, wouldn't get those darn enh sham, & feral druids though, or tankadins" whats wrong with em ? |
| 16:00.56 | ennuilg | Codayus: Thank goodness - a use for the well over 1000 Apexis Shards I currently have in my bank! |
| 16:01.19 | ulic | nothing, just makes it hard to know what spec they are, for addons to put them into a "healer" category |
| 16:01.51 | ulic | guess I should have left out |
| 16:01.53 | Codayus | "Detect Magic removed. All players may now see their target's beneficial effects at all times." |
| 16:01.57 | ulic | "darn" so as to not offend |
| 16:02.09 | cncfanatics | Codayus, thats fake I hope ? |
| 16:02.12 | Codayus | Not that major a change, I suppose, but NOT expected. |
| 16:02.15 | Codayus | http://forums.wow-europe.com/thread.html?topicId=1017251724&postId=10167901690&sid=1#0 |
| 16:02.17 | ennuilg | Nope - that's real - confirmed by Vaneras. |
| 16:02.18 | Codayus | Guess again. |
| 16:02.20 | cncfanatics | thats a HUGE buff to dispell |
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| 16:02.29 | cncfanatics | no more hiding buffs |
| 16:02.35 | Codayus | Ooh, pvp |
| 16:02.38 | Codayus | I hadn't thought about that. |
| 16:02.39 | ennuilg | There are some nice mage changes coming, but that one's a pain. |
| 16:02.54 | Codayus | "Arcane Shot (Ranks 6 and above) now dispel 1 Magic effect in addition to their normal damage." |
| 16:03.01 | cncfanatics | eeeek |
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| 16:03.06 | Codayus | Yeah... |
| 16:03.08 | Codayus | A new era, no? |
| 16:03.10 | cncfanatics | they seem to be doing huge changes to dispell mechanics |
| 16:03.19 | ennuilg | Damage tax removed, Evocate doing 15% per tick, wards and ice barrier scaling with +dmg... |
| 16:03.20 | cncfanatics | undispellable pala seals |
| 16:03.22 | Coagulate | hey all, got a quick question for you? with antiarc's heroic key generator, how do you parse the ascii characters? i get an error each time? |
| 16:03.24 | cncfanatics | and more other stuff too |
| 16:03.29 | Xinhuan | they are just making hunters more viable in arena |
| 16:03.34 | Xinhuan | hunters are least represented atm |
| 16:03.45 | Codayus | 15% per tick...may or may not be a buff. |
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| 16:04.03 | ennuilg | Depends on how much +spi gear you stacked in your evocation set, yes. |
| 16:04.06 | Xinhuan | 15% per tick is likely not a buff for me lolz |
| 16:04.07 | _dreamss | im the only one who niticed that change fucks pallies the most? Arcane Shot will remove BOP |
| 16:04.09 | _dreamss | heh |
| 16:04.12 | cncfanatics | (NEW SPELL) Ritual of Refreshment available on trainers at level 70. :o about time |
| 16:04.22 | Codayus | Unless the number of ticks is changing, it should be a big nerf to most raiding mages... |
| 16:04.24 | cncfanatics | _dreamss, removes a random effect |
| 16:04.34 | cc-work | did arenapointer mod get updated for current % ?? |
| 16:04.35 | cncfanatics | Codayus, 15% per tick, 4 ticks |
| 16:04.36 | _dreamss | is the cooldown on the shot? |
| 16:04.46 | cncfanatics | thats 60% mana, thats more then what most get atrm |
| 16:04.47 | _dreamss | there |
| 16:04.51 | Xinhuan | yeah 60% of my mana is only like 6500 mana |
| 16:04.55 | Xinhuan | i get like 8k mana on evocates |
| 16:05.07 | Xinhuan | by swapping in proper spirit weapon/wand |
| 16:05.09 | Codayus | 60% would be a nerf; smart mages use spirit swap weapons... |
| 16:05.13 | Xinhuan | with divine spirit, kings, and other raid buffs |
| 16:05.22 | cncfanatics | buff for stupid mages :p |
| 16:05.24 | Codayus | ...hmm, okay, maybe a buff for most mages. :-D |
| 16:05.31 | ennuilg | The reason for it is the T6 bonus, of course, which gives you an extra tick of Evocation. |
| 16:05.43 | Xinhuan | the number of ticks is irrelevant ;p |
| 16:05.45 | Xinhuan | its still a nerf |
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| 16:05.58 | cncfanatics | depends |
| 16:06.05 | cncfanatics | hello Kaelten |
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| 16:06.18 | _dreamss | 75% mana regen? dam |
| 16:06.43 | Kaelten | hello |
| 16:06.53 | Codayus | "The number of creatures that must be killed in the Karazhan Servants Quarters area before a miniboss spawns has been reduced. " Best change ever, now I just need to convince my guild to farm them... |
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| 16:07.03 | Codayus | *mutters about shadow dmg gear and poor itemization* |
| 16:07.17 | cncfanatics | Codayus, those epix are worthless from the animal bosses tbh |
| 16:07.30 | Codayus | cncfanatics: Untrue. 99% of them are. |
| 16:07.45 | _dreamss | so they said season 3 is comming with 2.3 and they would give 2 weeks notice on season 3? right |
| 16:07.51 | Coagulate | anyone familiar with Antiarc's Heroic Key Generator parser on armory.mmo-champion.com? how can i get it to parse my guild? we use ascii/xml characters in our guild tag |
| 16:08.04 | Codayus | But there's oh, 4-5 good ones. Anything with nature/frost resist (for Hydross tanks), and some of the slots with shadow dmg (due to poor itemization). |
| 16:08.22 | cncfanatics | hmmmm |
| 16:08.27 | cncfanatics | the epix with NR & FR would be sexy indeed |
| 16:08.34 | Fisker- | OOPS |
| 16:08.34 | cncfanatics | but u'd have to be rather lucky to get em |
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| 16:08.47 | Codayus | Yeah, I know. I was kinda kidding about getting my guild to farm them. :-/ |
| 16:08.51 | cncfanatics | god, anyone around familiar with art ? got to make a stupid report on a CHAIR for art |
| 16:08.58 | cubicool | Is the developer of Aloft here atm? |
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| 16:09.28 | Codayus | Let me see... |
| 16:09.37 | ulic | doesn't looke like it |
| 16:09.52 | ulic | ~seen roartindon |
| 16:09.55 | purl | roartindon <n=jtlim@ppp121-45-69-170.lns10.adl6.internode.on.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 10d 13h 44m 50s ago, saying: 'sylvanaar: which part of the regex don't you understand?'. |
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| 16:10.14 | cubicool | blergh. |
| 16:10.15 | ulic | guess he's on vacation or something :) |
| 16:10.33 | ulic | why you having problems. I am running it without issue. |
| 16:10.36 | cubicool | For some reason you can't use Aloft and ItemRack at the same time. |
| 16:10.38 | Coagulate | nice job on getting the updates out for patch day. best patch day ever :) took me 2 minutes to update every mod. |
| 16:10.56 | Mudkipz | o/ |
| 16:10.59 | genetik- | cubicool: what version of itemrack? |
| 16:11.01 | Codayus | Ah, yes, Ravager's Cuffs of Shadow Wrath = 52 shadow damage. |
| 16:11.06 | cubicool | I'd also like to patch Aloft and have it only show friendly HP _if_ they've taken damage... would that be possible? |
| 16:11.21 | cubicool | genetik-: The latest as of last night; let me get the exact number. |
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| 16:11.28 | cncfanatics | Coagulate: its like that most of the time |
| 16:11.44 | cncfanatics | we need our addons working too on patch day -.- the problem most of the time is that wowace is down, not that the mods aren't updated |
| 16:11.45 | vhaarr | ulic: http://fish.wowace.com/changelog/WowAce/branches/ClosetGnome/ulic/ClosetGnome?cs=46218 |
| 16:11.48 | cubicool | genetik-: 1.992 |
| 16:11.50 | vhaarr | ulic: I see a few problems |
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| 16:11.54 | Codayus | For a dmg focused class like spriests, it's not really clear where the next upgrade drops. MH or BT, probably. :-/ |
| 16:11.56 | ennuilg | Ouch. |
| 16:11.56 | Silviu- | ckknight when in a raid and looking on members all are white in cartographer on map :) white dots ;p |
| 16:12.32 | vhaarr | ulic: 1. Edit a set where you are missing an item - 2. Make that item the set icon - 3. Make another item the set icon - 4. Does the missing item revert to yellow now? |
| 16:12.37 | Fisker- | hehe Bibi` |
| 16:12.48 | Fisker- | almost sounds like Salthem ripped part of your 2.3 post |
| 16:12.49 | cubicool | What's more bizarre is that when Aloft is loaded, ItemRack simply fails to load at all with no traceable error that I know how to get to... |
| 16:13.17 | ulic | vhaarr: doh, I don't use set icons and admittedly did not test things with set icons |
| 16:13.18 | vhaarr | cubicool: get closetgnome then |
| 16:13.26 | cubicool | Certainly looking that way. |
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| 16:14.58 | vhaarr | ulic: also, all the locales have to be modified for the set add/edit description change |
| 16:15.01 | ulic | I can play with that stuff if you like and make sure it works, or try to make the needed corrections to make it work. |
| 16:15.18 | cubicool | About the patch to Aloft however: as a Druid in PVP, I often use the "Friendly Nameplate" to determine when I need to unferalize (TM) and heal someone. However, it would be nice to only have their nameplate appear when they're damaged. |
| 16:15.34 | cubicool | And perhaps even grow in size as they get more dangerously low in HP. |
| 16:15.36 | ulic | vhaarr: that would be true, I only did english for now, seeing as how it's what I test on. |
| 16:15.42 | Fisker- | Mages |
| 16:15.42 | Fisker- | (2) Detect Magic removed. All players may now see their target's beneficial effects at all times |
| 16:15.43 | Fisker- | lol |
| 16:15.58 | vhaarr | Fisker-: what? |
| 16:16.08 | vhaarr | that sucks |
| 16:16.21 | cubicool | Fisker-: Is that true? |
| 16:16.22 | Fisker- | Enchanting |
| 16:16.22 | Fisker- | (2) Duration of Wizard and Mana oils has been increased |
| 16:16.23 | Fisker- | woo |
| 16:16.27 | Fisker- | more useless buffs |
| 16:16.34 | cryogen | whats the point int hat? |
| 16:16.35 | cryogen | wheres the source? |
| 16:16.37 | Codayus | The change is true. |
| 16:16.46 | Fisker- | www.mmo-champion.com |
| 16:16.46 | Codayus | The source is a blue. I posted a link a few minutes ago... |
| 16:16.51 | cryogen | the first question stands |
| 16:17.10 | Codayus | http://forums.wow-europe.com/thread.html?topicId=1017251724&postId=10167901690&sid=1#0 |
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| 16:17.26 | Fisker- | (NEW SPELL) Ritual of Refreshment available on trainers at level 70. |
| 16:17.29 | Fisker- | MUFFIN FACTORY |
| 16:17.31 | cubicool | Whoa! I can use Power Auras now for things like Evasion and Divine Shield! |
| 16:17.53 | cubicool | (I don't think PowerAuras was ever able to detect beneficial spells like Antagonist can...) |
| 16:18.33 | cryogen | what a silly pointless change that is |
| 16:18.33 | Fisker- | most disappointing thing sofar is that there is NO mention of guild banks whatsoever |
| 16:18.39 | ulic | vhaarr: helping a friend with a quest, then I'll look into that. |
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| 16:19.11 | Freako | I got a problem, my pallypower is stuck outside my screen (i can only see the edge of my buff buttons) - I've deleted all the saved variable files, still doesn't help. Any clue how to fix.. ? |
| 16:20.13 | ulic | does pally power have a scaling option? make it really big so you can grab it, then back to normal. |
| 16:20.15 | mort | enable ui scale, set it to the lowest value, move it |
| 16:20.31 | ulic | that too |
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| 16:20.46 | Freako | ok i'll try that, thanks |
| 16:21.35 | Coagulate | also, pallypower has a reset option |
| 16:21.44 | Coagulate | to put it back at default |
| 16:22.12 | Freako | Coagulate: It don't rly work for me, tred that too.. |
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| 16:23.32 | Fisker- | who messed with xloot? |
| 16:23.41 | Fisker- | cronaaaaaaaaaaaaaan |
| 16:23.52 | Fisker- | although that makes absolutely no sense |
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| 16:24.55 | Freako | Mort: the ui scale chnages everything else than my pally power who seems to be stuck in the side.. it don't work.. :( |
| 16:25.36 | Freako | ulic: i dont help to scale the pally power, i still can't move it.. :/ |
| 16:25.46 | mort | delete the config files |
| 16:26.02 | Elkano | wtb 2.3 now :( |
| 16:26.31 | Freako | mort: I did, or are there others then the ones in the saved variable folder ? |
| 16:27.59 | LetheKai|Away | o.o That the Elk from ElkBuffBars? |
| 16:29.30 | Coagulate | delete pallypower from interface/addons and delete it's file in saved variables. reinstall and see if that fixes it |
| 16:29.44 | Elkano | no, only his evil twin ;) |
| 16:30.00 | Freako | Coagulate: Ok i'll try that.. :) |
| 16:30.16 | syeren | ckknight. |
| 16:30.32 | syeren | With the buff nerf, you need to fix Pitbull Auras before 2.3! |
| 16:30.45 | syeren | Or rather, with the buffs buff. |
| 16:30.45 | Coagulate | was xloot updated? |
| 16:31.00 | Hjalte | Coagulate: I have problems with it still |
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| 16:33.17 | cncfanatics | :o bleach is taking an intresting turn of events :o |
| 16:33.28 | Fisker- | Antiarc ping |
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| 16:36.00 | dodga | cncfanatics: Which episode did you watch? :D |
| 16:36.23 | Bibi` | dodga : the one where the girl dies |
| 16:36.33 | dodga | Ah. |
| 16:36.34 | dodga | Huh? |
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| 16:36.38 | dodga | Nobody dies in Bleach. Ever. |
| 16:36.45 | Bibi | damn. |
| 16:36.46 | cncfanatics | dodga, 142 |
| 16:36.52 | dodga | cncfanatics: Ah, newest one :D |
| 16:36.56 | cncfanatics | dodga, ofc :p |
| 16:36.57 | dodga | Yeah, I hate those cliffhangers |
| 16:37.03 | dodga | Seen the movie? |
| 16:37.11 | cncfanatics | yea |
| 16:37.13 | cncfanatics | its not too bad |
| 16:37.16 | dodga | Yeah |
| 16:37.17 | cncfanatics | like the episodes more |
| 16:37.19 | cncfanatics | except for the fillers |
| 16:37.21 | cncfanatics | but now its just nice |
| 16:37.22 | dodga | Though I had higher hopes :o |
| 16:37.26 | cncfanatics | the 3 back together :p |
| 16:37.39 | dodga | Man I miss the episodes where they would fight like for 4 episodes :d |
| 16:37.45 | LetheKai|Away | I know I sound like a nerdy star-struck fan, but I love EBB. =D Been using it for... yes, I think I can say years. It's great! XD Okay done. |
| 16:37.58 | dodga | Ichigo should just smack everybody very hard. |
| 16:38.24 | cncfanatics | dodga, meh, he just getting smacked down hard lately |
| 16:38.25 | cncfanatics | hope that changes |
| 16:38.27 | cncfanatics | cuz its just sad |
| 16:38.31 | dodga | Yeah |
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| 16:40.13 | siIentium | Freako: open WTF\Account\>ACCOUNT>\<server>\<char>\layout-cache.txt (but not with notepad, I suggest wordpad or a 'real' editor) and delete all pally power sections |
| 16:40.35 | ulic | vhaarr: ctrl-clicking does turn the slot to blue, it uses the item currently in that slot as the icon, it does remember it as a missing item and doesn't overwrite the missing item with the current item. |
| 16:40.37 | siIentium | notepad cant handle the *nix linebreaks |
| 16:40.52 | cncfanatics | vim ftw |
| 16:40.53 | cncfanatics | seriously |
| 16:40.55 | cncfanatics | vim = win |
| 16:41.02 | cncfanatics | after I fixed the tabbing issue I get that is |
| 16:41.18 | ulic | vhaarr: however I did just notice, that if you make a red slot the icon slot, it makes that slot active, which I don't think is ideal. But that's the old code. |
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| 16:42.25 | ulic | also, is there away to remove an icon? |
| 16:42.43 | hanzzon | when an addon gets updated from for ex r49974.1>r49974.2 what does it mean? never anything in the changelogs about that? |
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| 16:43.12 | cncfanatics | hanzzon, libraries that change |
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| 16:43.16 | siIentium | hanzzon: it means that one of the embedded libs has been updated |
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| 16:43.27 | hanzzon | ahh, I see, thnx! |
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| 16:44.30 | hanzzon | is there any list somewhere of addons which have a similar fork but of course are based on the ACE framwork? |
| 16:44.47 | cncfanatics | hanzzon, what do u mean ? |
| 16:45.01 | cncfanatics | and its Ace |
| 16:45.03 | cncfanatics | not ACE |
| 16:45.05 | cncfanatics | and why do u care anyway ? |
| 16:45.33 | hanzzon | like, there is EqipCompare>EQCompare, the latter doing what the first is but being coded on Ace libs instead? |
| 16:45.41 | CIA-22 | 03rabbit * r50060 10LibRockComm-1.0/LibRockComm-1.0.lua: LibRockComm-1.0: Fix GROUP distribution. |
| 16:45.47 | cncfanatics | hanzzon, why do you care at all as long as the addon does what you want ? |
| 16:46.14 | hanzzon | I generally find it much easier to update Ace addons and that they also are generally more optimized written |
| 16:46.18 | vhaarr | ulic: I know, I just made that decision when I created it initially, I know how it works. |
| 16:46.37 | ulic | I figured you did, just thought I'd throw in my opinion |
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| 16:46.47 | cncfanatics | hanzzon, good answer heh, just browse the files.wowace.com ? |
| 16:47.19 | hanzzon | cncfanatics; yea, that is what I do. but sometimes the description is less than stellar :P |
| 16:47.22 | Stanzilla2 | WhoLib is bugged :( |
| 16:47.22 | siIentium | http://wowace.com/wiki/Ace_Alternatives_to_Common_Addons - but that list could use some work |
| 16:47.34 | vhaarr | Stanzilla2: WhoLib is crap. |
| 16:47.41 | ulic | but setting a slot with a missing item as icon does NOT make the current item active, it maintains the old item since it addes the missingItems table after. |
| 16:47.49 | Stanzilla2 | vhaarr: I know but WIM uses it and I dont like cellular |
| 16:47.54 | vhaarr | ulic: okay |
| 16:48.14 | vhaarr | ulic: I'm not sure why it needs to care whether an item is missing or not, I mean colorwise |
| 16:48.18 | ulic | so that doesn't work like the icon works with other slots |
| 16:48.40 | vhaarr | ulic: it should just output a message to chat saying "Some of the items in the set you are editing could not be found in your inventory." |
| 16:48.41 | ulic | vhaarr: just so the user can identify it easier. |
| 16:48.42 | vhaarr | or something |
| 16:48.53 | ulic | which it already does |
| 16:48.54 | vhaarr | ulic: give me a reason why that is useful |
| 16:49.26 | ulic | names of items aren't always obvious to me as to which slot they go in. |
| 16:49.35 | vhaarr | that's not a reason |
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| 16:49.54 | xt | Can anyone please update the spell haste rating in drdmg? :) |
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| 16:51.24 | ulic | I don't know, just makes sense to me to have a visual representation, it's a feature that Outfitter has/had that I missed, so I tried to make it :) |
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| 16:53.55 | CIA-22 | 03cronan * r50061 10BigWigs/TheEye/Solarian.lua: |
| 16:53.55 | CIA-22 | BigWigs: |
| 16:53.55 | CIA-22 | - 20200 Solarian changes |
| 16:55.02 | vhaarr | ulic: but there was another change as well in your branch, what was that |
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| 16:56.11 | ulic | just enable items to be equiped straight out of the bank if it's open, just something else 'I' wanted :) |
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| 16:57.02 | ulic | the missing items was the biggest change, the bank thing was pretty minor. |
| 16:57.10 | vhaarr | the bank thing could be added |
| 16:57.16 | vhaarr | but the missing items stuff makes no sense |
| 16:57.17 | vhaarr | useless |
| 16:58.09 | ulic | bank thing was like 2-3 lines of code, but would have to change some stuff in some of the other modules as well, as I think you were returning -1 for some things, but -1 is really a bag if you're at the bank. |
| 16:58.27 | ulic | I don't find it useless, but you don't have to add it. That's why I didn't commit it to trunk :) |
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| 16:59.40 | sb | uhm |
| 16:59.55 | sb | is lurker still bugged? |
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| 17:00.22 | Xyborg[Medivh|Ho | I curse thine ckknight! I HATE the rock configuration. Just thought I'd let you know that. |
| 17:00.37 | rubik | what do you people use for adding gear ratings (based on pre-set point values per stat) to your tooltips? Pawn? something else? |
| 17:00.49 | sb | rock config rocks :o |
| 17:00.55 | Health | How do you set the UI scale from the console? |
| 17:01.34 | Codayus | sb: Lurker bugged? How do you mean? |
| 17:01.40 | Hjalte | Health, /console uiscale 0.9 |
| 17:01.48 | Health | Thanks oil man |
| 17:01.57 | Codayus | Like, new and exciting 2.2 bugs, or the old disco-spout? |
| 17:02.07 | sb | 2.2 bugs ;o |
| 17:02.17 | sb | random aggro, spout hitting underwater |
| 17:02.33 | Codayus | As far as I know. :-/ |
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| 17:02.48 | Codayus | We raid SSC on Fri, hope it's sorted by then. |
| 17:03.08 | woden | lurker seemed fine last night for us |
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| 17:03.16 | woden | is the eu al'ar still bugged? |
| 17:04.08 | sb | okay |
| 17:04.32 | TNSe | we did lurker yesterday |
| 17:04.44 | TNSe | only weird thing was that I died during spout because I lagged P |
| 17:04.46 | sb | well there was hotfix today |
| 17:04.49 | Xyborg[Medivh|Ho | Not for me it doesn't. Most of my addons, whether made by ckknight or not, refuse to work to reset themselves every time I relog. Drives me nuts >_< |
| 17:04.49 | sb | hm okay |
| 17:04.52 | TNSe | I never saw it coming |
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| 17:05.18 | TNSe | I was trying to get out of water and totally failed |
| 17:05.25 | TNSe | finally got up and was dead from spout :P |
| 17:05.36 | TNSe | probably just a 10 sec lagspike :P |
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| 17:06.00 | Xyborg[Medivh|Ho | Anyways. Just had to voice my hate for the Rock Configuration. Hopefully in a few months when I redownload all the addons, they'll work properly. |
| 17:06.34 | Funkeh` | Is solarian wrath instant cast now or what? |
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| 17:07.32 | Codayus | They've done a LOT of fun stuff to bosses this patch. |
| 17:08.37 | Codayus | Can't confirm Lurker until Fri, but VR is tweaked. Al'ar bugged, got hotfixed, and seems to still be broken for most guilds. Oh and Illidan got an enrage. Tigole posted and said " we're checking this out" |
| 17:09.14 | Codayus | ...which is interesting... |
| 17:09.25 | cncfanatics | Illidan enrages after 2 secs & wipes the raid ? :) |
| 17:09.30 | cncfanatics | at least that'd feel Illidan-ish |
| 17:09.48 | Codayus | Goes Berserk at 15m, says something about too slow, and gains a 500% damage bonus. |
| 17:10.08 | cncfanatics | thats cool |
| 17:10.11 | cncfanatics | shld be 3 secs though :p |
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| 17:10.53 | Codayus | Well, kinda. Except 15m smells of "picked out of a hat", it troublesome for guilds who have been farming him, should probably have been in the patch notes, and should certainly be something Tigole knows about, and wouldn't have to investigate... |
| 17:11.01 | Codayus | Their patch process baffles me at times. |
| 17:11.05 | cncfanatics | hehe |
| 17:11.08 | cncfanatics | 15m is short ? :o |
| 17:11.09 | cncfanatics | cool |
| 17:11.16 | cncfanatics | now he might not be killed the first time guilds meet him ? ahem |
| 17:11.20 | cncfanatics | seriously |
| 17:11.53 | Codayus | Apparently a FAST kill is 12-13m. Most are 20+. Or so I hear. |
| 17:11.56 | cncfanatics | I'm a noob when it comes down to tbc raiding (dead servers ftl :p) but that was ridiculous imo |
| 17:12.29 | Codayus | And as you probably know, guilds haven't been killing him the first night of attempts. |
| 17:12.43 | Arcaia | !v us Shattered Hand Arcaia us Illidan Furi |
| 17:12.48 | Arcaia | !vs us Shattered Hand Arcaia us Illidan Furi |
| 17:13.00 | Arcaia | go go bot. |
| 17:13.10 | cncfanatics | "first time they meet him" == before the first reset that makes them clear to him again |
| 17:13.20 | [I]|Dolly | I am in search of an addon that shows me my cooldowns in little boxes or bars (not on the normal action bar) - got anyone a suggestion? |
| 17:13.30 | Arcaia | bots not in here =( |
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| 17:13.49 | Arcaia | ct_buffmod |
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| 17:14.48 | xyu | for ace2, i think Hourglass, coolDowntimers2 |
| 17:14.52 | xyu | will do the trick |
| 17:14.52 | [I]|Dolly | my spellcooldowns not the remaining buff duration :/ |
| 17:15.01 | [I]|Dolly | thx xyu, ill try |
| 17:15.21 | markm | I need something to replace NECB |
| 17:15.31 | markm | do any of the ace timers have respawn timers? |
| 17:15.49 | Hjalte | markm: Incubator |
| 17:16.19 | xyu | incubator but my incubator doesn't track Void reaver trash very acurately, |
| 17:16.30 | markm | hrmm |
| 17:16.35 | markm | that could be a problem |
| 17:16.36 | xyu | it's spot on for others though. |
| 17:16.52 | Codayus | NECB > Incubator for trash I think. |
| 17:16.59 | Codayus | Tracks them by the boss who controls them. |
| 17:17.01 | markm | NECB is mostly overkill for me |
| 17:17.09 | markm | but I love the trash respawn timers |
| 17:17.10 | xyu | incubator does as well i think |
| 17:17.25 | xyu | at least whenever i down a boss associated w/ those trash mobs the timers disappear :P |
| 17:17.28 | Codayus | xyu: It does, I meant the way it displays them. |
| 17:17.33 | xyu | ahh |
| 17:17.34 | xyu | neat |
| 17:17.43 | Codayus | So you get a bar for "Aran trash", and "prince trash", or wahtever. |
| 17:17.46 | xyu | yea |
| 17:17.50 | Codayus | Not 50 bars, and you need to know which is which. |
| 17:17.50 | xyu | that's pretty cool |
| 17:18.07 | markm | eh? |
| 17:18.11 | markm | that's what incubator does? |
| 17:18.18 | xyu | incubator just gives you a mob name |
| 17:18.19 | xyu | and a timer |
| 17:18.22 | markm | oh |
| 17:18.31 | markm | yea, I'll stick with NECB over that |
| 17:18.57 | Codayus | Well, you can set incubator to filter if adds are killed too close togehter. |
| 17:19.00 | CIA-22 | 03trasher * r50062 10AtlasLoot/Constants/constants.fr.lua: |
| 17:19.00 | CIA-22 | AtlasLoot: |
| 17:19.00 | CIA-22 | - update french |
| 17:19.06 | Codayus | And IT knows which mobs belong to which boss, and removes the bar. |
| 17:19.35 | xyu | yep yep. it's not bad. very simple which is what i like |
| 17:19.43 | xyu | and i KNOW which trash belongs to which boss |
| 17:19.45 | xyu | not a big deal to me |
| 17:19.53 | markm | I do on farm content |
| 17:19.57 | markm | but not on new content ;) |
| 17:20.17 | markm | although, the single pull of illhoof's trash always threw me :) |
| 17:21.05 | Codayus | Incubator could also use a fubar plugin. |
| 17:21.18 | Codayus | Mouseover...drops down a list of respawns. |
| 17:21.32 | Codayus | And optionally wanrs you when something is about to repop. Bars in my screen...meh? |
| 17:22.15 | NeoTron | "Banish may no longer be cast on targets tapped by other players " |
| 17:22.22 | markm | Codayus: good idea |
| 17:22.36 | markm | I don't really want anything other than bigwigs to put bars up |
| 17:22.37 | NeoTron | that change needs the sister change "The act of applying DoTs to a target will tap it on application before damage id sone" |
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| 17:23.02 | xyu | i don't agree |
| 17:23.10 | xyu | how else am i supposed to icelance elementals that are being dotted |
| 17:23.13 | xyu | at EP |
| 17:24.05 | xyu | i Thieve! |
| 17:24.42 | NightHawkTheSane | NeoTron: really, any non-damaging hostile spell cast on a mob should tap it. |
| 17:24.44 | NeoTron | xyu: point proven yes |
| 17:24.47 | cncfanatics | NeoTron, any debuff on a target should tap it |
| 17:24.50 | cncfanatics | even nondamaging ones |
| 17:24.52 | NeoTron | yes |
| 17:25.03 | NeoTron | now as destruction lock ti doesn't affect me |
| 17:25.06 | cncfanatics | (at least if they cause aggro, that would exlucde, mind vision, mind soothe, etc) |
| 17:25.10 | NeoTron | but as affliction it's so fricking irritatint |
| 17:25.24 | NightHawkTheSane | yeah, there'd be obvious exceptions |
| 17:25.34 | NightHawkTheSane | but things like sw:p, coa, faerie fire, etc. |
| 17:25.52 | xyu | lol that'd be annoying, tapping a mob 5000 yards away w/ vision as some noob is about to charge it :P |
| 17:26.05 | cncfanatics | mind vision has a 100 yard range xyu |
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| 17:26.27 | xyu | oh ya |
| 17:27.23 | xyu | i like to take WSG flags and hide on their own base when it's pug vs premade (me in the pug) |
| 17:27.27 | rubik | when is a mob technically tapped though? or rather, when can it not be "stolen" away by someone else? |
| 17:27.29 | xyu | just to see how long i can survive |
| 17:27.36 | NeoTron | cncfanatics: rank one has limited range. rank has like 50000 yrd |
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| 17:27.42 | Fisker- | LOL Bibi |
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| 17:27.46 | Fisker- | LOLOLOLOLOL |
| 17:27.48 | Fisker- | repeating of course |
| 17:27.53 | Bibi | what ? |
| 17:28.01 | NightHawkTheSane | rubik: in my opinion, when a character has taken any kind of action against the mob. :P |
| 17:28.05 | Bibi | (I think I know what actually, but still.) |
| 17:28.08 | Fisker- | (3) New Flying Mount added. Requires 2,000g and Exalted with Cenarion Expedition. (280% Speed) (Source) |
| 17:28.09 | Fisker- | no fucking way |
| 17:28.14 | Bibi | oh, that's not that :p |
| 17:28.16 | rubik | cause i know if i "tap" stuff with faerie fire (prolly since it does no dmg?), mobs *always* get stolen in a heavily farmed area |
| 17:28.21 | Fisker- | it |
| 17:28.27 | Fisker- | it's gotta be fucking vashj herself |
| 17:28.33 | Fisker- | and by riding we don't mean flying |
| 17:28.35 | NightHawkTheSane | rubik: right now, you need to deal damage to tap a mob. |
| 17:28.41 | xyu | dmg has to be done |
| 17:28.47 | NightHawkTheSane | rubik: we were saying what it 'should' be |
| 17:28.48 | rubik | yeah.. must be |
| 17:28.51 | xyu | it has to turn the mob gray |
| 17:28.54 | rubik | gotcha.. makes sense |
| 17:29.09 | rubik | so moonfire would do it |
| 17:29.13 | xyu | yea |
| 17:29.34 | rubik | wtb moonfire or ranged dmg dealing spell for feral forms.. pst. |
| 17:29.46 | NightHawkTheSane | nah, just make ff tap the damn mob :P |
| 17:29.55 | xyu | at least you have a moonfire, think of the poor warriors ! |
| 17:29.55 | cncfanatics | or do one dmg |
| 17:29.55 | rubik | or that. |
| 17:29.57 | cncfanatics | rly, its the same |
| 17:30.06 | rubik | heh.. my warrior has charge |
| 17:30.11 | xyu | charge doesn't even do dmg does it? |
| 17:30.11 | NightHawkTheSane | charge doesn't deal damage |
| 17:30.23 | xyu | i've stolen mobs from a charging warrior |
| 17:30.25 | NightHawkTheSane | i've had mobs stolen under me after i've charged, but before i've gotten a melee swing in |
| 17:30.28 | xyu | i'm a right bastard |
| 17:30.49 | rubik | crap.. yes, charge doesn't tap it.. haven't played my warrior in a while.. druid is too much fun. ugh. |
| 17:31.26 | xyu | ice lance is funny in that it deals damage before the graphic even arrives (for me at least) |
| 17:31.27 | NeoTron | basically anything that aggros a mob should tap it |
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| 17:34.17 | xyu | what about body pulls? |
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| 17:35.21 | NightHawkTheSane | body pulls shouldn't.. |
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| 17:36.50 | Trell_ | Detect Magic removed. All players may now see their target's beneficial effects at all times = awesome |
| 17:37.00 | cncfanatics | its a buff to pvp dispellers |
| 17:37.05 | cncfanatics | which wasnt needed really |
| 17:37.32 | CIA-22 | 03funkydude * r50063 10BigWigs/TheEye/Solarian.lua: |
| 17:37.32 | CIA-22 | BigWigs: TheEye/Solarian: |
| 17:37.32 | CIA-22 | - proper 2.2 fixes |
| 17:37.33 | Trell_ | i love that the 'blues' seem to be giving shedloads of info on 2.3 already |
| 17:37.46 | Funkeh` | They have to |
| 17:38.05 | Trell_ | yah but i've never seen this much before any other patch |
| 17:38.09 | Funkeh` | Or they will have to delay WotLK, they need patches on schedule |
| 17:38.10 | deltron | yeah |
| 17:38.15 | Funkeh` | So 2.3 will prob be pretty soon |
| 17:38.24 | Trell_ | yeah zul'aman is suppoed to be begging of october |
| 17:38.26 | deltron | 2.3 on PTR first week of october hopefully |
| 17:38.28 | Trell_ | on ptr's |
| 17:38.31 | Funkeh` | Mind you most is already done, ZA, guild bank, etc |
| 17:38.48 | Trell_ | so when do you think wotlk is going to be aimed for? |
| 17:38.59 | Funkeh` | Summer? Not sure |
| 17:39.28 | TNSe | give or take 1 month after warhammer |
| 17:39.36 | TNSe | get back all customers who have been on a vacation from wow |
| 17:40.11 | Trell_ | is bigwigs comparable to dbm, i currently use dbm, but most people ive spoken to say bigwigs is just as good |
| 17:40.35 | Funkeh` | In my biased opinion it is, and better |
| 17:40.36 | Trell_ | ie; to take a random example - can bigwigs flash the screen and put CAVE IN in big letters in the middle |
| 17:40.41 | deltron | bigwigs > dbm |
| 17:41.08 | Funkeh` | No it doesn't flash the screen, but gives a nice warning 'cave in on you' |
| 17:41.13 | Trell_ | ~touristlib |
| 17:41.22 | CIA-22 | 03scorpio0920 * r50064 10Babble-2.2/Babble-Boss-2.2/Babble-Boss-2.2.lua: |
| 17:41.22 | CIA-22 | Babble-2.2: |
| 17:41.22 | CIA-22 | -Update zhTW translation (wtf stupid translation!) |
| 17:41.24 | Trell_ | I'll switch over than |
| 17:41.44 | Lukian | hmm who authors Talented? |
| 17:41.48 | Lukian | Just thought of a feature |
| 17:42.01 | Health | So.. I need to use IE or install a browser plugin to use WAU these days? |
| 17:42.20 | Trell_ | no, Health |
| 17:42.22 | deltron | Lukian: easiest way to check is to go to files.wowace.com |
| 17:42.25 | Trell_ | why would you? |
| 17:42.35 | Gnarfoz | hm |
| 17:42.39 | deltron | Health: umm no, I use java for wau2 |
| 17:42.41 | Gnarfoz | Omen is acting weird o_O |
| 17:42.45 | Fisker- | i love nevcairiel |
| 17:42.49 | Trell_ | you don't *need* to use wau2 |
| 17:42.52 | Fisker- | if he starts blackmailing slouken |
| 17:42.52 | Trell_ | wau is fine |
| 17:43.05 | Pheredhel | ckknight_: is it possible to add "custom groups" to pitbull? (i.e. unit frames, where you can chose who to display) if yes, i'll write a ticket for it ;) |
| 17:43.09 | nevcairiel | Grum: now how do i set my bars to be vertical in grid ? :P |
| 17:43.40 | Fisker- | is grum in my grid? |
| 17:43.43 | Fisker- | making updates? |
| 17:43.53 | Fisker- | ~seen Antiarc |
| 17:43.55 | purl | antiarc is currently on #wowi-lounge (3d 19h 21m 35s) #wowace (3d 19h 21m 35s). Has said a total of 347 messages. Is idling for 9h 1m 37s, last said: 'Thordon: Install and/or activate the Pitbull portrat module'. |
| 17:44.55 | PProvost | Q: Anyone know if the Omen/Threat issues are being worked on? |
| 17:45.41 | vhaarr | Trell_: If you want aggro warnings with a flashing screen, check out banzaialert |
| 17:46.29 | Dustwhisper | how much AR is required on solarian now for tanks and anyone else ? |
| 17:46.35 | Dustwhisper | is it nothing ? or does tanks require some still |
| 17:46.55 | cncfanatics | think 400-500 ? or I could be totaly wrong |
| 17:47.09 | Dustwhisper | that's what you needed prepatch |
| 17:47.11 | Dustwhisper | you needed 500 |
| 17:47.13 | Dustwhisper | but it's completely redone |
| 17:47.18 | markm | huh? |
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| 17:47.23 | markm | arcane resist? |
| 17:47.27 | cncfanatics | no, markm resist |
| 17:47.27 | Dustwhisper | yes |
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| 17:47.35 | markm | the cap is 365... |
| 17:47.47 | markm | that's 75% |
| 17:47.54 | markm | does he reduce it or something? |
| 17:48.25 | Dustwhisper | yes |
| 17:48.27 | markm | ah |
| 17:48.30 | cncfanatics | he does/did a debuff that reduces AR |
| 17:48.33 | markm | ok |
| 17:48.36 | markm | that makes sense |
| 17:48.40 | markm | I was confused for a minute :) |
| 17:49.57 | m4rku5 | the CIA seems to be rather slow now a days ;) |
| 17:50.16 | cncfanatics | always has been :) and always will |
| 17:50.35 | m4rku5 | nah old CIA bots have been faster :P |
| 17:50.47 | cncfanatics | I'm more talking about the real CIA :) |
| 17:51.11 | m4rku5 | heh :P |
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| 17:54.03 | Dustwhisper | anyone know a working focus macro with resheep on focus with modifier button for 2.2 ? |
| 17:54.07 | Dustwhisper | my old one is severely broken |
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| 17:54.42 | NeoTron | we ALMOST had our first one night clear of SSC (4 hrs) |
| 17:54.49 | NeoTron | had 45m on Vashj.. but both our kiters were out |
| 17:55.01 | NeoTron | still managed to get her to 8%. sigh |
| 17:55.07 | PProvost | So, last night someone said here that the Omen issues went away if you go back to an older revision. Anyone know how far back I have to go? |
| 17:55.18 | PProvost | (older rev of Threat) |
| 17:55.52 | Ominous | how can i repair a vista installation? |
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| 17:57.25 | PProvost | Reinstall? :) |
| 17:57.26 | DrWily | Does anyone know of an addon like itemsync that caches recipie links? |
| 17:58.03 | DrWily | haha, install Ubuntu Ominous! |
| 17:58.18 | DrWily | well that's what my friend keeps telling me, I run XP Pro |
| 17:58.23 | Ominous | DrWily: i do on laptop :P |
| 17:58.27 | PProvost | So, I'm guessing by the silence around my Omen/Threat questions that either a) nobody cares or b) nobody else is seeing the issues |
| 17:58.48 | Ominous | PProvost: what issue? |
| 17:59.00 | Lukian | Ominous, follow your laptops procedure for booting the OS installation/repair |
| 17:59.00 | PProvost | Ummm... it isn't working properly? |
| 17:59.09 | DrWily | Sorry PProvost, I haven't been grouped since the patch hit |
| 17:59.10 | PProvost | In Gruul, we had all healers above all tanks. |
| 17:59.12 | Ominous | Lukian: its not may laptop |
| 17:59.16 | PProvost | Not so good. |
| 17:59.35 | PProvost | People who were running pre-patch versions of Omen/Threat didn't have an issue. |
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| 18:00.07 | PProvost | I just grabbed a WC and am gonna start pouring through the logs, but this is not nice. |
| 18:00.12 | alext | updated omen yesterday at 10pm EST, ran through 2 hours of SSC with no issues here |
| 18:00.28 | Aeyan | I ran a few 5-mans last night, no issues |
| 18:00.30 | PProvost | Esp. with so many people updating w/ WAU |
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| 18:00.37 | PProvost | Might be the Gruul module then. I'll check there. |
| 18:00.44 | markm | Omen is great, but sometimes a bug or two gets introduced\ |
| 18:00.51 | alext | it could be your other omen users as well |
| 18:00.52 | markm | and we have a warlock die |
| 18:01.02 | alext | does your whole guild use omen? did everyone have the latest version? |
| 18:01.04 | alext | things like that |
| 18:01.14 | PProvost | There were a few people on last night talking about it. |
| 18:01.18 | PProvost | Yes alex and yes alex |
| 18:01.28 | alext | well congrats your ahead of the game ;[ |
| 18:01.32 | alext | my guild is still 50/50 omen/ktm |
| 18:01.37 | markm | hehe |
| 18:01.42 | PProvost | You can't coexist well. We forced the switch. |
| 18:01.50 | markm | We've got our entire guild on omen too |
| 18:01.52 | PProvost | No Omen... no raid. |
| 18:01.54 | alext | yeah i am trying to force it |
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| 18:02.16 | markm | it's funny, our OT on Gruul had KTM installed for some reason |
| 18:02.21 | markm | really screwed our Melee up |
| 18:02.28 | PProvost | Anyone else been in Gruul since patch using current Omen? |
| 18:02.29 | markm | they didn't have show KTM data on |
| 18:02.34 | markm | PProvost: yep |
| 18:02.39 | markm | on patch day |
| 18:03.29 | PProvost | Yeah, they don't co-exist well. Gotta get the KTM out of there. |
| 18:03.29 | markm | it works alright |
| 18:03.29 | markm | as long as you enable display of KTM data |
| 18:03.29 | markm | and know what it means to have both there |
| 18:03.31 | markm | it doesn't matter much for Gruul since it's a single target |
| 18:05.26 | genetik- | PProvost: we did gruul last night with everyone using Omen. i didn't notice any issues on gruul, but i do remember it freakout out on some trash in TK later in the evening. ended up working fine on void reaver. |
| 18:05.37 | PProvost | Hrm |
| 18:05.47 | Trell_ | I asked this earlier, and I'm still confused about it - why the hell is shadowstep going to give -50% threat on the next move out of shadowstep in 2.3? |
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| 18:06.06 | PProvost | I know last night people here were saying that an older version of Threat didn't have these issues. |
| 18:06.25 | genetik- | PProvost: actually, it might have been on mag that it was freaking out. let me ask a guildy real quick. |
| 18:06.34 | PProvost | The problem wasn't Gruul himself, but High King and the trash pulls. It was mostly just distracting to people to see it all messed up. |
| 18:07.35 | Gnarfoz | PProvost: I'm at Gruul right now |
| 18:07.39 | genetik- | yeah, it was on mag that it got all weird. |
| 18:07.43 | Gnarfoz | and... yeah, Omen is messed up quite badly |
| 18:07.57 | genetik- | just random threat levels for everyone, it seemed. eventually it smoothed out as the fight went on, though |
| 18:08.00 | Gnarfoz | everyone with versions from ~yesterday shows up as if they were using KTM |
| 18:08.06 | markm | hah |
| 18:08.20 | markm | We make everyone update with jwowupdater before the raid |
| 18:08.23 | markm | usually works out |
| 18:08.30 | deltron | watiss |
| 18:08.47 | Gnarfoz | yeah, I'm gonna poke everyone to update before we move on to Void Reaver |
| 18:08.54 | Chompers | so, how would i go about moving pallypower to somewhere i can see it? |
| 18:09.13 | Gnarfoz | can't force anyone to do anything in these parts. no-one is used to being told what to use ^^ |
| 18:09.30 | Chompers | delete the SV file the only option? |
| 18:10.29 | genetik- | Gnarfoz: telling them to use something is easy. telling them to update regularly is another issue altogether :/ |
| 18:10.40 | genetik- | or, rather, getting them to update regularly |
| 18:10.41 | Wogroipl | Xloot has a problem with border padding I think, and I can't find an option for it |
| 18:11.08 | PProvost | Gnarfoz, it all comes down to getting the raid leadership to set standards. Old version? No Omen? No raiding. |
| 18:11.19 | markm | genetik-: get them to use jwowupdater |
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| 18:11.31 | genetik- | markm: heh.. yeah, i do |
| 18:11.34 | markm | then it's 1 click |
| 18:11.39 | genetik- | "here.. use this. it's really easy" |
| 18:11.42 | genetik- | "why aren't you updated?" |
| 18:11.46 | markm | and they are either as updated, or as broken as you are |
| 18:11.47 | genetik- | "i dunno" |
| 18:12.29 | markm | I want a simple dashboard that shows me who is running an old version of: Omen, BigWigs, or Ora2 |
| 18:12.32 | markm | hehe |
| 18:12.47 | vhaarr | markm: SpyGnome |
| 18:12.49 | markm | the one problem we've run into is, some people log in 30-45 mins before raid, some 10 mins before |
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| 18:12.53 | genetik- | most everyone is good about keeping their raid addons up-to-date |
| 18:12.54 | genetik- | yeah |
| 18:12.57 | PProvost | Since those addons all can check/report status. that should be easy to do markm |
| 18:12.58 | genetik- | i was just about to say that |
| 18:12.58 | markm | they all update before they log on |
| 18:13.05 | markm | but omen gets updated a lot still |
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| 18:13.08 | vhaarr | markm: SpyGnome |
| 18:13.13 | xyu | how many reports does it take to get an AFK flag in bg's? |
| 18:13.13 | vhaarr | reply dammit |
| 18:13.14 | markm | vhaarr: yea, I'll check it out |
| 18:13.15 | genetik- | yesterday before the raid, we had some people log in who hadn't logged in since sunday |
| 18:13.16 | markm | haha |
| 18:13.26 | genetik- | and their shit was all broken somehow |
| 18:13.33 | PProvost | DUH |
| 18:13.35 | markm | well that would make sense |
| 18:13.35 | markm | 2.2 |
| 18:13.36 | markm | haha |
| 18:13.44 | genetik- | well yeah |
| 18:14.08 | kenlyric | broken? |
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| 18:14.13 | kenlyric | meh. check the checkbox. |
| 18:14.41 | genetik- | kenlyric: yeah, one of our shadow priests had to reinstall wow.. tried all of the usual solutions for fixing things |
| 18:14.54 | genetik- | i don't think his client had patched correctly or something |
| 18:14.58 | kenlyric | one issue is that the patchh apparently needs an install record. |
| 18:15.20 | erb | haha |
| 18:15.23 | SMELTN | Does anyone know if there is a mod for your tradeskills, like Advanced Trade Skill Window? |
| 18:15.28 | erb | has autobar been fixed? |
| 18:15.33 | SMELTN | it seems to be broken and the last update was 3 months ago |
| 18:15.35 | kenlyric | so, install the D drive, and when i rebuil my C drive there was no install record. |
| 18:15.43 | genetik- | erb: i believe that it has, yes |
| 18:15.43 | erb | smeltn didn't you just answer your own question? |
| 18:15.49 | erb | thanks genetik! |
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| 18:16.02 | erb | smeltn: alternative - Manufac |
| 18:16.03 | SMELTN | no. I said LIKE ATSW |
| 18:16.10 | erb | i was giving you a hard time :) |
| 18:16.13 | SMELTN | hehe |
| 18:16.21 | SMELTN | its so broken right now, locks my game completely up |
| 18:16.25 | erb | ouch |
| 18:16.37 | erb | i haven't opened manufac since the patch so i dunno if thats the same case |
| 18:16.41 | erb | its completely different though |
| 18:16.43 | erb | no real GUI |
| 18:16.47 | SMELTN | ahh |
| 18:16.48 | erb | sorts things nicely though |
| 18:16.52 | SMELTN | right |
| 18:16.56 | SMELTN | thats the main thing I want |
| 18:17.03 | SMELTN | I am tired of trying to find all my bracer enchants |
| 18:17.06 | SMELTN | and such |
| 18:17.07 | SMELTN | :P |
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| 18:19.03 | markm | genetik-: odd, I still have a shadow priest that can't get patched to 2.2 |
| 18:19.10 | markm | even after a re-install |
| 18:19.24 | genetik- | markm: i _think_ that he eventually got his stuff straightened out |
| 18:19.31 | genetik- | i don't know what he did, though |
| 18:19.43 | genetik- | both fixing and breaking |
| 18:19.44 | genetik- | heh |
| 18:20.01 | genetik- | i really don't understand how some people have so many issues after patch day |
| 18:20.17 | kenlyric | my issue was just the install record. I installed WoW 1.0, then deleted that folder and put my old wow folder back there. Worked like a charm |
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| 18:21.00 | markm | hrmmm |
| 18:21.05 | markm | so many addons missing wike pages |
| 18:21.08 | markm | sad =/ |
| 18:21.23 | Kemayo | It can't be the install record for everyone -- my "install" is from copying my SO's install across the network to my computer, and I had no problems. |
| 18:21.33 | PProvost | I never bother installing WoW from DVD any more. I just copy it from computer to computer. |
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| 18:21.57 | PProvost | And I repave my computer every 6-8 weeks, so I do it all the time. :D |
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| 18:22.11 | Kemayo | (Her install, for that matter, was copied from my old computer before it died...) |
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| 18:23.14 | CIA-22 | 03toadkiller * r50065 10PeriodicTable-3.0/ (3 files in 2 dirs): |
| 18:23.14 | CIA-22 | PeriodicTable-3.0: |
| 18:23.14 | CIA-22 | - Consumable.Buff Pet |
| 18:23.27 | Gnarfoz | PProvost, genetik-: raid pool too small. if we don't take em on the raids, the raid won't happen |
| 18:23.42 | Industrial | An Error Has Occurred! |
| 18:23.43 | Industrial | Session verification failed. Please try logging out and back in again, and then try again. |
| 18:23.45 | PProvost | Bah. Do it once and they will learn. |
| 18:23.54 | cryogen | nevcairiel: man do i need that center option in bt3 :) |
| 18:23.54 | Industrial | on "mark all as read" |
| 18:23.56 | Wogroipl | is there a way to know what your current UI scale is in WoW? |
| 18:23.57 | PProvost | Skip the raid if you have to. Stand by your guns. |
| 18:24.03 | genetik- | Gnarfoz: yeah, we have that problem too. i just make them hold up the raid. |
| 18:24.14 | PProvost | Wogroipl, /print GetCVar("UIscale:) |
| 18:24.18 | genetik- | "go update. 24 others are waiting for you" |
| 18:24.21 | PProvost | Wogroipl, /print GetCVar("UIscale") |
| 18:24.25 | Wogroipl | PProvost thanks |
| 18:24.33 | Wogroipl | twice :P |
| 18:24.41 | PProvost | Or just look in your config.wtf file |
| 18:24.43 | PProvost | :) |
| 18:24.51 | PProvost | You can set it to a hard value using SetCVar too |
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| 18:24.57 | PProvost | I like mine at 0.9 |
| 18:25.45 | Stanzilla2 | ckknight_: is LibSharedMedia-2.0 framework agnostic? |
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| 18:31.37 | syeren | Hmm, when I use Shift + B, this happens: http://www.fabrikate.org/store/WoWScrnShot_092607_184801.jpg |
| 18:32.24 | erb | wow that has to suck |
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| 18:32.34 | aestil | i think its ahwt |
| 18:32.40 | CIA-22 | 03funkydude * r50066 10BigWigs/Hyjal/Archimonde.lua: |
| 18:32.40 | CIA-22 | BigWigs: Hyjal/Archimonde: Fear: |
| 18:32.40 | CIA-22 | - reduce by 1 second |
| 18:32.40 | CIA-22 | - tweak message |
| 18:33.02 | aestil | funkheh you promise that vashj change went in? I looked for it in the changelog and never saw it. |
| 18:33.38 | SMELTN | anyone working on durability_fu? |
| 18:34.09 | Dustwhisper | anything changed on KT post 2.2 ? |
| 18:34.39 | Morghus | Any macro-wizards here that knows why this macro isnt' working after 2.2: /cast [nostance,Harm] Faerie Fire(Rank 5); [Stance:1/3,harm] Faerie Fire (Feral)(Rank 5); [nostance,target=playertarget]Innervate; [nostance,target=player]Innervate |
| 18:34.45 | genetik- | Dustwhisper: he deep breaths more often :( |
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| 18:34.55 | Dustwhisper | funny man |
| 18:34.58 | genetik- | hehe |
| 18:35.35 | genetik- | but seriously.. i don't know. we're not on him yet. hopefully soon with the solarian changes, though |
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| 18:36.07 | Thrae | Morghus: Try putting them on seperate lines -- the /cast parser isn't perfect. |
| 18:37.04 | Mech0z | any ace mod that can make part of my screen "hot rendered" its filled with UI anyway |
| 18:37.08 | Mech0z | hot = not |
| 18:37.20 | xyu | aperture? |
| 18:37.31 | xyu | you mean like a viewport addon? |
| 18:37.33 | cryogen | intersting |
| 18:37.37 | cryogen | pitbull ate my party frames |
| 18:37.44 | xyu | bad dog |
| 18:37.58 | cryogen | and decided to show a load of frmes i previously had disabled |
| 18:38.01 | Mech0z | xyu, yes that sounds about right |
| 18:38.41 | cryogen | <PROTECTED> |
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| 18:39.22 | ckknight_ | Pheredhel: what do you mean by custom groups? |
| 18:39.26 | Mech0z | xyu wasnt aperture a mod? |
| 18:39.59 | Pheredhel | somewhat like chose a bunch of unitIDs ant gett a new frame for them |
| 18:40.16 | xyu | yeah it's an addon |
| 18:40.17 | Pheredhel | lets say if you want to build a special "healer" frame or something |
| 18:40.25 | Mech0z | cant see it with aceupdater |
| 18:40.31 | xyu | hm should be there. |
| 18:40.33 | Mech0z | nwm |
| 18:41.10 | Morghus | Thrae: It worked in the previous patch :/ |
| 18:41.27 | Thrae | Morghus: Did you try putting them each on one line? |
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| 18:42.27 | Morghus | Yes, no change |
| 18:42.58 | Pheredhel | is this possible to implement without changing most of pitbull ? |
| 18:43.19 | I_D | baggins fixed yet? |
| 18:44.10 | Cheads | SMELTN ATSW works fine for me |
| 18:44.16 | Morghus | Thrae: It keeps telling me I have no target, so something about it's changed. |
| 18:44.23 | Funkeh` | aestil: http://fish.wowace.com/changelog/WowAce/?cs=49758 |
| 18:44.30 | Mech0z | xyu, Thanks it works :) |
| 18:44.31 | Thrae | Morghus: Same problem as you had before? |
| 18:44.44 | Mech0z | Now I hope it means my computer dont render that part == more fps |
| 18:44.45 | Mech0z | right? |
| 18:44.59 | Morghus | Thrae: Yes. |
| 18:45.14 | Mech0z | I have some "crash" problems, and I figurere now it simply can only be my laptop becomming too hot |
| 18:45.25 | Thrae | Did we have a WoW patch recently? |
| 18:45.59 | I_D | Mech0z: get one of those laptop coolers you can power on usb |
| 18:46.10 | I_D | they really make a difference |
| 18:46.14 | cryogen | [Ammo]: wtb ability to use 2 forms of output for witchhunt |
| 18:46.37 | Mech0z | I_D I have :( but it aint cooling much |
| 18:46.44 | Mech0z | A thermaltake TaiChi |
| 18:46.54 | Mech0z | and I can't replace the fans... |
| 18:47.02 | Grum | how can i turn of the 'show pitbull configuration' when i rightmouse a pitbull unitframe? |
| 18:47.05 | Grum | its annoying! |
| 18:47.24 | I_D | get a macbook pro then |
| 18:47.28 | Mech0z | so now I just live with it until start of next year when I buy desktop |
| 18:47.31 | CIA-22 | 03pettigrow * r50067 10BigWigs/ (3 files in 2 dirs): BigWigs: frFR Update |
| 18:47.32 | Mech0z | ha no :) |
| 18:47.44 | Mech0z | I am not a mac fan... |
| 18:47.58 | I_D | lemme guess |
| 18:48.07 | I_D | cause "macs aren't compatible with wintendo?" |
| 18:48.43 | Grum | ckknight_: how can i turn that off in pitbull? |
| 18:48.44 | Mech0z | I am getting a Penryn or Phenom + new Nvidia or Ati whatever is best when its released around newyear |
| 18:48.58 | Grum | it's rather annoying not being able to get the 'menu' on my target (so i basicly cant trade) |
| 18:49.14 | ckknight_ | simple right-click gets the Blizz menu |
| 18:49.20 | Mech0z | Well I tend to like Windows Vista, and I don't like that you can't upgrade your macs |
| 18:49.36 | Dustwhisper | anything changed on KT post 2.2 or VR ? |
| 18:50.19 | Necrathex | heard al'ar was bugged? |
| 18:50.43 | Mech0z | I_D I don't care that so many people like Mac, but I hate that they have to shittalk windows and everything none mac and say that everything is a ripoff from mac (Most things are ripoffs from linux, ubunto etc.) |
| 18:51.21 | Grum | ckknight_ it does not atm |
| 18:51.25 | Grum | it's really annoying O.o |
| 18:51.48 | Mech0z | But the thing atm I dislikes the most is Itunes + new Ipods locking your ipod to only work (without a hack) with Itunes |
| 18:52.08 | steev64 | is there a way to not use the rock configuration? |
| 18:52.15 | *** join/#wowace MoonWitch (i=Kay@83.101.2.123) |
| 18:52.19 | genetik- | Dustwhisper: nothing changed with void reaver |
| 18:52.35 | steev64 | i use DeuceCommander, so Rock is just kinda... meh |
| 18:52.47 | I_D | Mech0z: it's ubuntu, and vista for instance did steal a lot from osx |
| 18:53.07 | Dustwhisper | how about KT genetik- ? |
| 18:53.16 | I_D | also, windows does suck, and if you can't see that, then that's very sad :D |
| 18:53.20 | genetik- | like i said earlier, i don't know. we're not on him yet. |
| 18:53.39 | Mech0z | Why does it suck |
| 18:53.50 | Mech0z | Because of Virus/Malware? |
| 18:53.55 | genetik- | difference in air pressure? |
| 18:53.56 | Mech0z | I never get that, thats just stupid users... |
| 18:54.03 | I_D | unstable, bloated, unuserfriendly, insecure |
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| 18:54.37 | Amadeo | Something's got to be done about this new sound system Blizzard is using |
| 18:54.45 | Mech0z | insecure? Mac is as insecure, windows users is just generally more stupid so virus makers targets win users as they are easier |
| 18:55.02 | I_D | macs are far more secure than windows systems |
| 18:55.07 | Mech0z | How |
| 18:55.12 | Mech0z | Give me some examples |
| 18:55.15 | Chiea | Virus makers target windows users cause they're the majority.. |
| 18:55.18 | I_D | suppose we both get a new system |
| 18:55.19 | Amadeo | It has nothing to do with the technical ability of users, it has to do with the amount of systems out there |
| 18:55.24 | Mech0z | Chiea, also that |
| 18:55.24 | I_D | you get a brand new core 2 duo box |
| 18:55.25 | Amadeo | Exactly, Chiea |
| 18:55.32 | I_D | with a windows xp or vista install on it |
| 18:55.43 | MoonWitch | usually vista |
| 18:55.44 | Mech0z | But Chiea most Mac users are old Windows users who knows basic security |
| 18:55.47 | I_D | I'll get a macbook pro or another mac |
| 18:55.56 | I_D | then we both connect that system directly to the net |
| 18:56.01 | Necrathex | osx has unix basis, should be more secure |
| 18:56.06 | I_D | let's say on a decent backbone, 100Mbit |
| 18:56.09 | I_D | wait 5 days |
| 18:56.15 | Mech0z | I_D I have not gotten a virus with vista yet |
| 18:56.21 | I_D | and see whose harddrive ain't filled up :) |
| 18:56.26 | MoonWitch | I found ONE store here who sells pc's without windows on it (in my entire damn country) |
| 18:56.29 | I_D | cause you put a lot of work in your system |
| 18:56.40 | Mech0z | Well how can windows be less secure then |
| 18:56.51 | I_D | I haven't installed any virusscanners, firewalls or anything on my mac |
| 18:56.52 | Mech0z | Microsoft gets Billed for putting software into their OS |
| 18:57.02 | I_D | I've been as careless as I can, and I've never caught anything |
| 18:57.07 | Chiea | Mech0z - Can't really comment on that, cause I don't know any macusers that got any kind of experience with anything else then the programs they generally use for work. |
| 18:57.07 | I_D | can't do that with a pc |
| 18:57.07 | Mech0z | Because Mac is ALLOWED to put default programs on their system |
| 18:57.22 | Chiea | with anything involving computers* |
| 18:57.26 | I_D | it's not "mac", it's apple |
| 18:57.32 | I_D | if you're referring to the company |
| 18:58.11 | cncfanatics | I_D, I have no firewall or antivirus or anything at all on my PC |
| 18:58.15 | cncfanatics | ur refering to MSWIN |
| 18:58.44 | Mech0z | Well Microsoft gets sued for monopol (dunno if thats the correct english translation) misuse if they implement too many programs at windows default install |
| 18:58.46 | I_D | I'm referring to the numerous exploits that can be found in a clean windows install before you patch |
| 18:58.57 | Mech0z | Even though the avarage PC user would find those programs usefull |
| 18:58.59 | I_D | as opposed to a rather small number in osx |
| 18:59.33 | Mech0z | Because none searches for osx exploits because there is a much smaller gain as we talked about before |
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| 19:00.33 | Necrathex | weak argument, that means you can never connect the number of exploits to the quality of the OS |
| 19:00.39 | Necrathex | only to the number of users |
| 19:00.47 | Necrathex | doesn't seem logical |
| 19:01.22 | Mech0z | Well is it totally incorrect? |
| 19:01.25 | qwesto | you can connect the amount of exploited exploits to the numbers of users |
| 19:01.48 | Necrathex | no, but its not the only thing |
| 19:02.11 | I_D | nonsense |
| 19:02.11 | I_D | there's a much greater challenge into hacking a secure system like osx than there is in hacking a windows system |
| 19:02.11 | I_D | and the days when there were almost no apple systems on the market are long gone, they're taking an increasingly large place in the market |
| 19:02.13 | I_D | so the "there are few macs so they don't get hacked" argument is nonsense |
| 19:02.30 | Mech0z | Necrathex, I havent said it is :) But I said thats the main reason |
| 19:02.47 | Mech0z | I_D now your just making me ignoring you |
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| 19:02.53 | I_D | :) |
| 19:03.11 | Mech0z | Thats like saying "My car is faster than yours because its a Lamborghini" |
| 19:03.19 | Mech0z | Without giving any reason |
| 19:03.27 | Mech0z | But enough of this |
| 19:03.32 | Mech0z | I got some calculus |
| 19:03.32 | *** join/#wowace Lin (n=igor@unaffiliated/lincity) |
| 19:03.38 | Amadeo | I want a Lamborghini |
| 19:03.42 | Lin | hi there |
| 19:03.47 | Lin | There is any add on to fades out my frames in some conditions. Example: I wish to fade out all my actionbars when I out of combat and fade in when the combat start. |
| 19:04.01 | Mech0z | Amadeo, m2 but that makes it very important I make this homework so I can get my Computer Science degree... |
| 19:04.13 | Amadeo | Will you buy me one after you're rich? |
| 19:04.16 | Mech0z | The new lamborghini is damm sweet |
| 19:04.36 | Mech0z | Amadeo, When I have bought one for my parrents, brother and sister sure |
| 19:04.37 | Lukian | Lin, I thought I saw an addon called FrameFader at one point |
| 19:04.48 | Lin | Lukian: ok I will search for it. |
| 19:04.56 | Amadeo | Mech0z: Nice |
| 19:05.01 | Amadeo | We can start a Lambo club |
| 19:05.02 | I_D | I drove behind a lambo a few weeks ago |
| 19:05.04 | Amadeo | haha |
| 19:05.10 | Chiea | How do I get WAU started after downloading it? |
| 19:05.13 | Chiea | (Using mozilla) |
| 19:05.15 | I_D | amazing what difference in torque there is between my car and that car |
| 19:05.43 | xyu | and the price difference |
| 19:05.45 | xyu | is quite amazing too :D |
| 19:05.48 | I_D | lol yeah ofc |
| 19:05.59 | I_D | then again, I can get my car turned in a small street |
| 19:06.05 | I_D | a lambo's owner can't :s |
| 19:06.49 | Mech0z | Amadeo, http://www.desktopmachine.com/press/230/Lamborghini_Revent%F3n//11121/ read about the new lambo, 1 Million Euro (without taxes) |
| 19:08.05 | Lin | Lukian: couldn't find anything related |
| 19:08.17 | Lukian | :( |
| 19:08.42 | Amadeo | To be honest with you, I've always been a Ferrari fan, even though the cars aren't too impressive to me anymore...and I'm sick of the selling out Ferrari computer stuff lately :P |
| 19:09.38 | Lin | Lukian: I really love WoW landscapes. I hate have all those frames while not fighting. ALT-Z everytime is boring, and I want to keep the map and chat. ALT do not allow it. |
| 19:10.25 | Lukian | Lin, I assume you've slimed down your bars by installing a barmod at the least? |
| 19:10.35 | Lin | yes Bongos23 |
| 19:10.38 | Lin | bongos2 |
| 19:10.44 | weab | someone's got a pretty dark blue lamborghini in our office building. always parked as far from the other cars as possible |
| 19:10.52 | Lin | there is any slimmer bar? |
| 19:11.16 | Lukian | I use bartender |
| 19:11.21 | Lukian | it lets me scale the bars |
| 19:11.28 | Lin | bongos allows too. |
| 19:11.38 | Lukian | probably not then :D |
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| 19:11.45 | Lukian | You could keybind everything XD |
| 19:12.10 | Lukian | lol I think my realm just crashed |
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| 19:12.25 | weab | Lin: have you heard of dash |
| 19:12.32 | steev64 | ugh, anyone play on draka? |
| 19:12.50 | Herr | anybody knows if there are any updated addons, for example bongos |
| 19:12.54 | Lin | I will check bartender anyway. Bongos even allows set alpha and everything else on all frames. But set transparency on cooldown bars isnt very good while in combat |
| 19:12.57 | Lin | weab: no. I havent. |
| 19:13.00 | BankZ | Anyone know if bartender3_modality is going to be fixed? |
| 19:13.01 | BankZ | :( |
| 19:13.03 | Lin | just the unix shell |
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| 19:13.08 | Lin | I will check too |
| 19:13.14 | Keias | Herr, bongos was updated pretty much immediately |
| 19:13.39 | Lin | weab: where can I see dash? curse.com hasn't it. |
| 19:13.47 | Dustwhisper | ehm |
| 19:13.49 | Dustwhisper | i just upgraded addons |
| 19:13.53 | Dustwhisper | why the fuck is bartender3 completely wack |
| 19:14.00 | weab | http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info7391-Dash.html |
| 19:14.06 | Cidan | Hola Lin, :P |
| 19:14.08 | weab | it might help you out. |
| 19:14.20 | Lin | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:14.24 | nevcairiel | Dustwhisper: l2logoutbeforeupdating |
| 19:14.25 | Cidan | Si, muy. |
| 19:14.31 | Amadeo | lol |
| 19:14.42 | Lin | Cidan: there is no improvements in your web page. Im still checking it everyday |
| 19:14.44 | Herr | oh cool , not looked for yet cause theres a little frustration on my smashed longtime takin?ui^^ |
| 19:15.03 | Cidan | That's because all our changes are on the developer site, :P |
| 19:15.27 | Dustwhisper | does that fix it? |
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| 19:15.44 | Dustwhisper | does it suddenly get /commands and it's menu back |
| 19:15.51 | Dustwhisper | just reverted to old version |
| 19:15.52 | Dustwhisper | and it worked |
| 19:16.05 | Ominous | Dustwhisper: it works |
| 19:16.18 | Ominous | Dustwhisper: just shut wow before updating :P |
| 19:16.30 | Dustwhisper | weird that just bt3 screwed up though |
| 19:16.34 | Dustwhisper | and worked after reverting >_< |
| 19:16.40 | nevcairiel | i could explain why |
| 19:16.41 | Herr | but what am i have to do to update my addons ? theres anything with cache and wtf copy paste i guess |
| 19:16.42 | nevcairiel | but i wont |
| 19:16.48 | nevcairiel | just do it |
| 19:17.20 | Amadeo | Nike |
| 19:17.57 | Herr | with the old settings of course |
| 19:17.57 | Ominous | Dustwhisper: its probabilly todo with a file rename |
| 19:18.46 | Herr | copy -> delete -> paste ? |
| 19:19.21 | Ominous | Herr: what are you on about, just extract the addons into your interface/addons folder and you are all sorted |
| 19:20.23 | Herr | hm , have to try ,im little lazy and ask everybody before try and fail^^ |
| 19:22.13 | Chiea | What's up wtih Cartographer btw? |
| 19:23.43 | Ominous | nothing? |
| 19:23.51 | Chiea | Getting errors from the new version :( |
| 19:25.06 | Chiea | Interface/AddOns/Cartographer/Cartographer.lua:7: Library "Dewdrop-2.0" not found. |
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| 19:29.35 | Morghus | Thrae: Made it working again: /cast [nostance, harm] Faerie Fire; [stance:1/3, harm] Faerie Fire (Feral)(Rank 5); [nostance, target=playertarget,help] Innervate; [nostance, target=player] Innervate :D |
| 19:30.19 | Morghus | ( and yes, Faerie Fire ( feral ) needs the rank there, or it won't work >< ) |
| 19:31.48 | Ellipsis | rrrglrlgrlrgrlrrr |
| 19:32.54 | Morghus | Hm= |
| 19:32.56 | Morghus | *? |
| 19:33.02 | Ellipsis | I is a murloc |
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| 19:33.46 | Morghus | A future raidboss. Pwnt by a special trick: Morogrim-bubbles imported from SSC. |
| 19:36.42 | Ellipsis | ugh |
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| 19:37.42 | MoonWitch | call me crazy, but I didn't know MY server had voice LOL |
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| 19:38.01 | Peekay | Bohya |
| 19:38.02 | CIA-22 | 03arcanefoam * r50068 10FuBar_CTRaidFu/ (. FuBar_CTRaidFu.toc): |
| 19:38.02 | CIA-22 | FuBar_CTRaidFu: |
| 19:38.02 | CIA-22 | - Updated to patch 2.2 |
| 19:38.13 | MoonWitch | apparently as of today everything is enabled >.< (after patch 2.2 the voice tab wasn't there nor the options) but now they are |
| 19:38.50 | genetik- | MoonWitch: which server? |
| 19:38.58 | MoonWitch | Tanaris |
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| 19:39.12 | MoonWitch | I didn't even know we were on the list, I checked it, and it wasn't on it >.< |
| 19:39.25 | cryogen | MoonWitch: eu or us? |
| 19:39.32 | weab | where's the list at ? |
| 19:39.33 | MoonWitch | so now I am trying to pull a guildie into the custom group/chan I made for it to test |
| 19:39.35 | cryogen | that too |
| 19:39.44 | MoonWitch | US .. and on the wow forums somewhere |
| 19:40.13 | cryogen | ah |
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| 19:40.21 | Ellipsis | it's linked from the news thingy on the homepage |
| 19:41.01 | MoonWitch | wb Ellipsis |
| 19:41.16 | MoonWitch | and in CorkFu, any way I can just click on the lacking buffs in the tooltip? |
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| 19:41.48 | genetik- | Update 9/27 |
| 19:41.49 | genetik- | We are going to be issuing rolling restarts for the select realms listed below in order to activate the Voice Chat feature. We will update this post once all realms are live with this change. |
| 19:41.59 | Ellipsis | nope MoonWitch |
| 19:42.03 | Ellipsis | gotta use the /click macro |
| 19:42.06 | genetik- | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=1602361123&sid=1 |
| 19:42.42 | Peekay | Dur |
| 19:42.44 | Ellipsis | my realm got the rolling restarts |
| 19:42.46 | Ellipsis | but no voice :D |
| 19:42.50 | Peekay | So, Anyone up for a Quick Question? x) |
| 19:43.18 | weab | cheer for genetik-. encourage my laziness. |
| 19:43.20 | Ellipsis | ~asktoask |
| 19:43.21 | purl | This is IRC. Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question and if someone's around, they'll be glad to help. |
| 19:43.24 | genetik- | hehe |
| 19:43.32 | MoonWitch | well damn |
| 19:43.34 | MoonWitch | I am on that list |
| 19:43.40 | genetik- | indeed |
| 19:43.48 | Ellipsis | dammit |
| 19:43.50 | Ellipsis | ~lart ckknight |
| 19:43.50 | purl | overclocks ckknight until ckknight burns out |
| 19:43.57 | MoonWitch | pfft I was thinking of the list set fbefore 2.2 |
| 19:44.06 | MoonWitch | oh well I will let yall know I suppose |
| 19:44.28 | weab | purl is a liar, the second part of that is not always true. |
| 19:44.39 | Ellipsis | pfft |
| 19:44.47 | Bruners | buffalo config and rock is not working to well |
| 19:44.52 | sedai| | boo. |
| 19:45.01 | Ellipsis | I heard ckknight doesn't overclock well at all |
| 19:45.39 | weab | it should be, if the following conditions are met, your question might be answered: a) your question isn't retarded, b) someone cares, and c) someone is bored or interested by your question |
| 19:45.43 | Ellipsis | in addition to FAILING AT FIXES |
| 19:46.52 | Bruners | haha, people are going nuts on scroll of strength v |
| 19:46.58 | Ellipsis | o.O |
| 19:46.59 | Bruners | 30g on ah for one |
| 19:47.06 | Ellipsis | wtf? |
| 19:47.13 | Ellipsis | I have 2 of those in my inventory o.O |
| 19:47.25 | Arcanefoam | u are rich then |
| 19:47.27 | Bruners | http://www.wowhead.com/?item=33173 |
| 19:47.30 | Bruners | needed to make those |
| 19:47.33 | Bruners | wich came in the patch |
| 19:47.34 | Ellipsis | oh snap |
| 19:48.11 | Bruners | i sold the first one for 200g 1s after i made it |
| 19:48.16 | Bruners | bet i can get more |
| 19:49.31 | weab | 200g actually seems pretty reasonable. |
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| 19:50.28 | xylch | wow, would be nice to even HAVE 200g |
| 19:50.48 | Bruners | weab: i took all the mats and added 50g |
| 19:51.02 | Ellipsis | grrrr |
| 19:51.03 | Bruners | except the scrolls |
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| 19:52.05 | Mudkipz | halp |
| 19:52.21 | Xinhuan | ~lart Mudkipz |
| 19:52.21 | purl | teaches Mudkipz that M$ Access is a database. No, really, a database. A real live multi-user... well, ok, not multi-user, but a database. Yeah, that sounds right. |
| 19:52.32 | Ellipsis | lulz |
| 19:52.35 | Mudkipz | T_T |
| 19:52.39 | Ellipsis | purl, you rock |
| 19:52.39 | purl | Ellipsis: :) |
| 19:52.46 | Peekay | Ark Inventory is not showing me my Bags tooltip on One of my Toon, SHould i go ahead and delete his WTF files for AI? The problem has something to do with FrameXML/Container Frame |
| 19:52.48 | Kuja^ | lol |
| 19:53.00 | Mudkipz | my minimap is making me angry |
| 19:53.18 | Mudkipz | I'm trying to parent a level 1 panel on it and it keeps the panel keeps overlapping the minimap :( |
| 19:53.22 | Xinhuan | Peekay: addon issue, update it or wait for author to update it |
| 19:53.38 | Xinhuan | patch 2.2 broke tooltips for many addons |
| 19:53.48 | Arcanefoam | Peekay: I had the same problem, it was caused by Monkey Quest |
| 19:53.55 | nevcairiel | only because addons used them wrong *shrug |
| 19:54.01 | Xinhuan | ^ |
| 19:54.43 | Vegeta]BT[ | anyone here who can tell me if and how you could change the Font displayed in the FuBaraddon ? |
| 19:55.01 | Mudkipz | go into settings and change the font? |
| 19:55.06 | CIA-22 | 03mecdemort * r50069 10IceHUD/modules/ (TargetInfo.lua TargetOfTarget.lua): IceHUD: TargetInfo and TargetOfTarget mouse-over fixes. |
| 19:55.42 | Mecdemort | new interface number is 20200 right? |
| 19:55.47 | Xinhuan | yes |
| 19:56.04 | Vegeta]BT[ | mudkipz i try this, but i did not found the option |
| 19:56.12 | Vegeta]BT[ | only the fontsize i could change |
| 19:56.19 | MoonWitch | this voice crap is totally shit ... |
| 19:56.54 | Mudkipz | oh yeah |
| 19:57.01 | Fr3ak0 | How is it shit ? |
| 19:57.03 | Mudkipz | I use clearfont2 @_@ |
| 19:57.08 | Fr3ak0 | i dont have it on my relam yet |
| 19:57.21 | Mudkipz | auto changes all my fonts |
| 19:57.38 | Vegeta]BT[ | ah thx i ll try this :) |
| 20:00.14 | *** part/#wowace Herr (n=pipistot@HSI-KBW-091-089-016-246.hsi2.kabelbw.de) |
| 20:01.04 | MoonWitch | well mostly due to "voice doesn't work" |
| 20:01.28 | MoonWitch | according to all settings my mic is fine (I know it is since it works in everything else) .. yet no one hears me, I hear no one |
| 20:02.11 | weab | are you sure you aren't completely failing at turning on voice properly |
| 20:02.38 | *** join/#wowace Paene (n=Jim@24-236-181-169.dhcp.mrqt.mi.charter.com) |
| 20:03.47 | *** join/#wowace kbh (i=kbh@adsl-75-21-180-12.dsl.sgnwmi.sbcglobal.net) |
| 20:03.57 | kbh | any rep grind junkies in here? |
| 20:07.03 | Ellipsis | eww |
| 20:07.07 | Ellipsis | who does that XD |
| 20:07.22 | Mudkipz | aha problem solved |
| 20:07.42 | Mudkipz | make a border and 0 transparency on the panel wewt |
| 20:07.51 | Hjalte | Where do i change what colours my wow uses for each class? |
| 20:08.01 | Mudkipz | I'm making good use of that solid border btw |
| 20:08.57 | *** join/#wowace Sleyn (n=Sleyn@S0106001c1035d38e.vc.shawcable.net) |
| 20:10.57 | Xinhuan | yes kbh? |
| 20:11.00 | Xinhuan | i have 29 exalted |
| 20:11.21 | MoonWitch | weab, pretty sure, I used it on the PTR :) |
| 20:11.54 | Xinhuan | Hjalte: its located in a file called Font.xml (i think) |
| 20:11.59 | Xinhuan | but don't quote my word for it |
| 20:12.02 | Xinhuan | its a FrameXML file |
| 20:12.08 | Xinhuan | so you can't really change it |
| 20:12.31 | Xinhuan | however, you can change the values in the class table via an addon or macro, since its just a LUA table like any other |
| 20:13.48 | *** join/#wowace _Ricoo (i=Rico@535290A8.cable.casema.nl) |
| 20:13.55 | _Ricoo | good evening |
| 20:14.15 | Xinhuan | good midnight |
| 20:14.18 | _Ricoo | BigWigs: TheEye/Solarian: |
| 20:14.18 | _Ricoo | - proper 2.2 fixes |
| 20:14.21 | _Ricoo | aint working |
| 20:14.26 | Ellipsis | good morning |
| 20:14.49 | Xinhuan | gotta be a bit more descriptive than that |
| 20:14.53 | Xinhuan | "not working" can mean a lot of things |
| 20:14.54 | Funkeh` | Whats not working |
| 20:14.58 | Funkeh` | _Ricoo: |
| 20:15.47 | Ellipsis | >_> |
| 20:15.48 | Xinhuan | btw funkeh, i'm killing solarian tomorrow, so i'll tell you if it works tomorrow ;p |
| 20:16.01 | *** join/#wowace Paradox (n=Paradox@spc1-brmb4-0-0-cust10.bagu.broadband.ntl.com) |
| 20:16.16 | Xinhuan | also doing Naj again, so i'll check the Boss Bubble tidal shield timer thing again |
| 20:16.40 | Xinhuan | alar is back to normal after the rolling restarts though |
| 20:16.44 | Xinhuan | confirmed. |
| 20:16.55 | Ellipsis | grats alar |
| 20:17.36 | _Ricoo | Funkeh` getting a big error every time the boss does the debuff |
| 20:17.52 | Funkeh` | bloodboil sec |
| 20:17.54 | Funkeh` | gimme error |
| 20:17.56 | Funkeh` | in pastey |
| 20:18.07 | _Ricoo | which addon i should use for it ? bugsack ? |
| 20:18.15 | _Ricoo | i will use it on next try |
| 20:18.17 | MoonWitch | lol for the first time ever, I heard the sounds in the Inn in southshore.. it's soo.. folklore-y baroque |
| 20:18.38 | Funkeh` | you can type it if you want |
| 20:19.29 | Ellipsis | grrrr |
| 20:19.34 | Ellipsis | stupid female nelf priests |
| 20:19.45 | Ellipsis | ALWAYS have to click on my summon portals and then move |
| 20:19.47 | Ellipsis | ~facepalm |
| 20:19.48 | purl | ACTION facepalms at the situation |
| 20:19.52 | mikma | Ellipsis: lol |
| 20:20.31 | sb | <3 ress bug |
| 20:20.43 | *** join/#wowace Paradox (n=Paradox@spc1-brmb4-0-0-cust10.bagu.broadband.ntl.com) |
| 20:20.50 | Ellipsis | want =[ |
| 20:21.37 | Gnarfoz | want non-weird omen |
| 20:21.38 | Gnarfoz | :< |
| 20:22.57 | NeoTron | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:23.09 | NeoTron | after the patch one of our hunters is unable to log on his main (an alt works fine) |
| 20:23.23 | *** join/#wowace Herr (n=pipistot@HSI-KBW-091-089-016-246.hsi2.kabelbw.de) |
| 20:23.26 | markm | if I had a hunter main, I'd also have that problem :) |
| 20:23.41 | Gnarfoz | ;D |
| 20:24.00 | NeoTron | he's a survival hunter... |
| 20:24.05 | markm | ouch |
| 20:24.05 | NeoTron | that beats out BM hunters in dps |
| 20:24.10 | markm | wow |
| 20:24.12 | NeoTron | and is incredibly good |
| 20:24.19 | markm | well |
| 20:24.20 | Matrix110 | 2 of our Paladins get INSANE lag when we engage smth in combat |
| 20:24.24 | markm | does he beat GOOD BM hunters? |
| 20:24.25 | markm | or bad ones |
| 20:24.26 | NeoTron | our best hunter by far |
| 20:24.26 | CIA-22 | 03punkie * r50070 10ClearFont/ClearFont.toc: ClearFont: toc |
| 20:24.31 | NeoTron | bad ones |
| 20:24.31 | markm | because bad hunters are worthless |
| 20:24.37 | NeoTron | I'm curious to see how he'd do as BM |
| 20:24.43 | markm | I can out DPS bad hunters with my tank :P |
| 20:24.44 | NeoTron | well not BAD but.. average |
| 20:24.50 | NeoTron | not THAT bad |
| 20:24.59 | Paradox | is there a command or a way to 'fix' my unit frames with pitbull if I login and instantly get into combat? |
| 20:25.03 | Ellipsis | wtf I'm getting my butt kicked on damage meters by a dps warr |
| 20:25.07 | Ellipsis | /emo |
| 20:25.10 | Paradox | just happened while grinding, i'm thinking it might be lame during a raid etc |
| 20:25.13 | NeoTron | on say vashj phase 1, which is as clear focused DPS you can get, at least one hunter is usually high up (top 3-4 |
| 20:25.14 | sb | ress ppl -> full mana and sometimes full hp |
| 20:25.24 | Punkie` | Ellipsis: what class are you? |
| 20:25.28 | CIA-22 | 03mecdemort * r50071 10IceHUD/ (. IceHUD.toc embeds.xml): IceHUD: Updated .toc and converted to embeds.xml |
| 20:25.45 | *** join/#wowace Alecious (i=juliebab@213.150.55.141) |
| 20:26.06 | Matrix110 | NeoTron if you get the debuff you might have to move so no its not focused DPS and Melees might get routed oor from Vashj when she has a bad day or a pala forgets freedom:P |
| 20:26.19 | NeoTron | we aoe'd the trash before lurker |
| 20:26.21 | kbh | any new arcane mages in the house? |
| 20:26.23 | NeoTron | holy dps batman |
| 20:26.27 | NeoTron | I did some 2900 dps |
| 20:26.28 | Alecious | Guess onebag isn't updated yet? |
| 20:26.36 | NeoTron | they die dreally fast |
| 20:26.40 | nevcairiel | OneBag was updated yesterday |
| 20:26.46 | kbh | cmon lets hear about that arcane missles spam |
| 20:26.47 | Alecious | Still not working :( |
| 20:26.48 | Alecious | frames fucked |
| 20:26.54 | nevcairiel | works fine for me |
| 20:27.03 | NeoTron | on morogrim, the better of the two other hunters got 13th on the DPS |
| 20:27.07 | NeoTron | which is really rather bad |
| 20:27.11 | *** part/#wowace Alecious (i=juliebab@213.150.55.141) |
| 20:27.29 | NeoTron | but he got 3 watery grave too |
| 20:27.31 | Matrix110 | 13th is like 2nd or 3rd last Oo? |
| 20:28.06 | NeoTron | we had 10 ppl doing > 1000 dps |
| 20:28.07 | Ellipsis | Punkie`: lock :( |
| 20:28.26 | NeoTron | but.. yes only one below was the dps warrior |
| 20:28.47 | markm | DPS wars do great DPS with good tanks |
| 20:28.48 | markm | :) |
| 20:28.58 | markm | give them a Soulstone and they can do even more! |
| 20:29.00 | Ellipsis | the nelf is using starshards |
| 20:29.01 | Ellipsis | >_> |
| 20:29.01 | NeoTron | http://wowwebstats.com/eaerqhpm3gt2i |
| 20:29.07 | Paene | man, these 2.3 patch notes are pretty nice looking |
| 20:29.19 | NeoTron | actuall I meant to link http://wowwebstats.com/eaerqhpm3gt2i?s=7265-7716 |
| 20:29.29 | baer_ | damn |
| 20:29.44 | NeoTron | we have some good locks :P |
| 20:29.45 | baer_ | did blizz change anything with the hydross event? |
| 20:29.51 | NeoTron | adds seems easier |
| 20:29.51 | markm | Paene: makes you wonder how many will stick |
| 20:29.58 | NeoTron | like thei die faster |
| 20:30.06 | Necrathex | :o |
| 20:30.07 | NeoTron | either that or we had better aoe than we've had in the past few attempts |
| 20:30.15 | markm | didn't the cut the adds health in half? |
| 20:30.19 | markm | and their damage output? |
| 20:30.28 | NeoTron | whatever it is, they seemed to die faster |
| 20:30.30 | markm | s/the/they/ |
| 20:30.32 | NeoTron | so that's very possible |
| 20:30.37 | baer_ | well, did anything change with moving over the lines? |
| 20:30.38 | markm | er |
| 20:30.38 | NeoTron | and yeah don't seem to hit as hard |
| 20:30.53 | baer_ | all healers seem to get aggro. |
| 20:30.55 | Paene | I'm a big fan of the fear ward change |
| 20:30.56 | Paene | lol |
| 20:31.04 | Ellipsis | want dps |
| 20:31.04 | markm | same |
| 20:31.05 | Ellipsis | >_> |
| 20:31.08 | markm | nerfed to uselessness |
| 20:31.14 | NeoTron | baer_: don't think so |
| 20:31.20 | Paene | it's not gonna be useless |
| 20:31.22 | NeoTron | fearward is still useful |
| 20:31.29 | NeoTron | you'll have more priests that can use it |
| 20:31.37 | markm | 3 minutes CD |
| 20:31.39 | Paene | you just have to bring more priests in your raids |
| 20:31.40 | NeoTron | unless you roll with all dwarves/draenei today |
| 20:31.43 | Paene | and rotate |
| 20:31.43 | markm | one fear per 3 minutes.. |
| 20:31.50 | markm | sooo |
| 20:31.51 | NeoTron | we had 6 priests last night |
| 20:31.52 | markm | on nightbane |
| 20:31.54 | NeoTron | that's one every 30s |
| 20:31.54 | Paene | plus |
| 20:31.56 | markm | you need 6 priests? |
| 20:31.57 | markm | heheh |
| 20:31.58 | NeoTron | on nightbane yes, harder |
| 20:31.59 | Paene | shadow priests have them |
| 20:32.05 | Paene | *it |
| 20:32.10 | markm | I want fearward just removed |
| 20:32.13 | markm | l2stancedance |
| 20:32.15 | NeoTron | but we haven't used fearward there for quite a while |
| 20:32.23 | markm | I'm horde, I've never gotten it |
| 20:32.24 | markm | heh |
| 20:32.25 | NeoTron | sucks for the feral tanks |
| 20:32.28 | NeoTron | or pally tanks |
| 20:32.37 | markm | I'm an undead warrior :) |
| 20:32.43 | Paene | NE Priest and Human Mage |
| 20:32.58 | markm | if we get fearward, I'm going to wish I had a tarren warrior |
| 20:32.59 | markm | heh |
| 20:33.03 | Paene | the fear ward change will be good...at least you're guarranteed to have a fear ward |
| 20:33.06 | _Ricoo | Funkeh` |
| 20:33.10 | markm | I don't want it |
| 20:33.11 | markm | toss it out |
| 20:33.11 | Lin | Im choosing some addons ons. Right now im in Titan Panel versus FuBar dilema. Which one is better? and why? |
| 20:33.12 | markm | :) |
| 20:33.17 | ag` | Disc tree needs to be rewamped |
| 20:33.20 | markm | Lin: fubar is ace, the end |
| 20:33.21 | markm | :) |
| 20:33.22 | _Ricoo | i cant pm you since i am not registered but here is the boss error: |
| 20:33.22 | _Ricoo | [2007/09/27 22:32:45-19-x7]: BigWigs-2.0 r49982\TheEye\Solarian.lua:247: attempt to concatenate global 'aplayer' (a nil value) |
| 20:33.25 | Paene | we haven't had one cuz all the dorfs and draenei on my server suck :-/ |
| 20:33.27 | ag` | racials needs to be talents or given to everyone |
| 20:33.34 | Paene | priests that is |
| 20:33.44 | NightHawkTheSane | markm: that's just idiotic. |
| 20:33.50 | NeoTron | we currently have two dorfs |
| 20:33.56 | markm | NightHawkTheSane: what's that? |
| 20:33.57 | NeoTron | err one dorf, one draenei |
| 20:34.10 | NightHawkTheSane | markm: "such and such is ace, and therefore better" |
| 20:34.18 | NightHawkTheSane | markm: it's not only completely untrue, but completely ignorant. |
| 20:34.20 | markm | #1 reason I use ace addons? |
| 20:34.23 | markm | ace updaters |
| 20:34.24 | markm | :) |
| 20:34.25 | Sleyn | Is there a link to the Fear Ward change? |
| 20:34.31 | NeoTron | actually |
| 20:34.34 | NightHawkTheSane | so? it still makes your statement absolute falsehod. |
| 20:34.38 | NeoTron | 2 draeneui - new shadow preist is draenei |
| 20:34.38 | markm | if I don't have to chase down my 20 addons |
| 20:34.38 | NightHawkTheSane | falsehood. |
| 20:34.42 | markm | I am happy |
| 20:34.45 | markm | therefore it's better for me |
| 20:34.48 | CIA-22 | 03funkydude * r50072 10BigWigs/TheEye/Solarian.lua: |
| 20:34.48 | CIA-22 | BigWigs: TheEye/Solarian: |
| 20:34.48 | CIA-22 | - bugfix to 'aplayer' |
| 20:34.48 | Paene | yeah, all the changes are on www.worldofraids.com |
| 20:34.51 | Paene | with links to the blue posts |
| 20:34.51 | Funkeh` | _Ricoo: ^ fixed |
| 20:34.54 | markm | there is no "which is better" answer that isn't subjective |
| 20:34.59 | Sleyn | thanks Paene |
| 20:35.05 | Paene | np |
| 20:35.09 | NeoTron | so is titan panel maintained these days? |
| 20:35.26 | NightHawkTheSane | markm: no, there are LOTS of purely objective ways to measure the quality of software. |
| 20:35.26 | *** part/#wowace Peekay (n=potato2k@modemcable079.63-82-70.mc.videotron.ca) |
| 20:35.28 | NeoTron | main reason I changed initially was because it was dropped on the floor |
| 20:35.33 | _Ricoo | thanks Funkeh` |
| 20:35.43 | helget | wtf I updated everything and now bartender isnt working |
| 20:35.48 | helget | anyone have a quick fix? im in middle of raid :P |
| 20:35.52 | Paene | did u exit the game? |
| 20:35.54 | helget | no |
| 20:35.58 | Paene | do that |
| 20:35.59 | helget | required? |
| 20:36.04 | helget | I just did /rl |
| 20:36.06 | Paene | reloadui messes it up |
| 20:36.08 | helget | ok |
| 20:36.09 | helget | thanks |
| 20:36.10 | Paene | np |
| 20:36.21 | nevcairiel | bartender3 did change alot, quit the game and restart, and everything should be fine again |
| 20:36.21 | markm | NightHawkTheSane: by quantifying the number of features, bugs, and fix rate for each addon? give me a break :P |
| 20:36.51 | helget | tanks it worked |
| 20:37.00 | markm | NightHawkTheSane: tell me, which is better, bigwigs or DBM? |
| 20:37.03 | Paene | Ugh, I took my class on SE last year, don't make me relive it lol |
| 20:37.05 | Paene | np helget |
| 20:37.08 | NightHawkTheSane | markm: no, by testing and measuring performance, analyzing coding practices, etc. |
| 20:37.38 | Saint-N | he means "magic" |
| 20:37.41 | markm | hehe |
| 20:37.57 | Saint-N | night can look at an addon in it's zipped format and tell which is awesome and which isnt |
| 20:38.03 | NightHawkTheSane | markm: don't know, don't care, i use what I like. But that doesn't mean there's no objective means of measuring the quality of a piece of code. |
| 20:38.05 | markm | NightHawkTheSane: something is not better because it is written cleanly |
| 20:38.08 | Saint-N | cuz he's a wizard |
| 20:38.18 | cryogen | how do you change bar texture in pitbull? |
| 20:38.26 | m4rku5 | !c eu blackmoore amandria |
| 20:38.26 | Saint-N | he casts the spells that make people fall down |
| 20:38.28 | ThraeBot | m4rku5: Amandria, Level 70 Human Priest (9/0/52). 9201 HP; 8685 Mana; 302 mana regen; 89 mp5; 113 spell crit; 77 spell hit; 950 +spell dmg/heal; 183 frost dmg (1133); 364 shadow dmg (1314); 5.54% dodge; 18 resilience; +25 all resists;[[ TBR: 1318 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/2bm8tp ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/2wtzxg ][ Updated: Thu Sep 27 16:53:23 2007 EST ]] |
| 20:39.02 | Paene | cool |
| 20:39.23 | kbh | zomg spell crit! |
| 20:39.38 | Saint-N | !vs eu blackmoore amandria us echo isles rozalyn |
| 20:39.41 | ThraeBot | Saint-N: Amandria vs Rozalyn! Two 70 priests square off!; Amandria wins by 34 TBRs! |
| 20:39.48 | Saint-N | sooo close |
| 20:39.59 | Paene | !c us scilla Lenwe |
| 20:40.02 | ThraeBot | Paene: Lenwe, Level 70 Night Elf Priest (24/37/0). 5751 HP; 8415 Mana; 331 mana regen; 159 mp5; 73 +spell dmg; 1471 +heal; 6.10% dodge; 10 nature resist (+10);[[ TBR: 304 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/29zn49 ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/2upw8x ][ Updated: Thu Sep 27 16:54:57 2007 EST ]] |
| 20:40.10 | Paene | lolz |
| 20:40.13 | Paene | my hps suck |
| 20:40.19 | Saint-N | !c us echo isles rozalyn |
| 20:40.20 | ThraeBot | Saint-N: Rozalyn, Level 70 Undead Priest (9/0/52). 6661 HP; 8010 Mana; 150 mana regen; 5 mp5; 97 spell crit; 14 spell hit; 601 +spell dmg/heal; 179 frost dmg (780); 241 shadow dmg (842); 4.90% dodge; 10 shadow resist (+10);[[ TBR: 1284 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/2ycyeo ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/2qc2rs ][ Updated: Thu Sep 27 16:54:37 2007 EST ]] |
| 20:40.21 | Funkeh` | markm: depends what you define as cleanly |
| 20:40.54 | markm | I'm just saying that using quality as an absolute bar isn't what will make the average user think it is "better" |
| 20:41.13 | markm | if it has 5% of the useful features, why would they feel it was "better"? |
| 20:41.19 | Paene | !c us scilla Paene |
| 20:41.21 | ThraeBot | Paene: Paene, Level 70 Human Mage (34/27/0). 10133 HP; 9461 Mana; 131 mana regen; 20 mp5; 150 spell crit; 66 spell hit; 690 +spell dmg/heal; 5.02% dodge; 342 resilience; +10 all resists;[[ TBR: 1298 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/yq9l44 ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/2ljb93 ][ Updated: Thu Sep 27 16:56:17 2007 EST ]] |
| 20:41.27 | markm | that's a sweet ircbot :) |
| 20:41.32 | cryogen | nvm found it |
| 20:41.34 | m4rku5 | hehe Saint-N ;) |
| 20:41.38 | Saint-N | the outhouse of PAIN!@ |
| 20:41.55 | m4rku5 | Saint-N, i have to admit that I am raidbuffed @ armory atm :P |
| 20:42.06 | Funkeh` | markm: well yeah, 'better' is usually defined by the whole mod added up |
| 20:42.19 | Funkeh` | features, code etc |
| 20:42.27 | markm | Funkeh`: which ends up being very subjective |
| 20:42.42 | Saint-N | markm: heh i havent got ANY instance epics or gear, all my stuff is 90% outside of instances havent done ssc tk bt or kara morethan twice ;) |
| 20:42.44 | markm | because there isn't an absolute value system for it :) |
| 20:42.52 | Funkeh` | Yeah because if you are like me, you might see a 'feature' as bloat |
| 20:42.54 | Saint-N | not to mention i havent played my priest in about 4 weeks |
| 20:43.05 | nevcairiel | just use bigwigs and be happy |
| 20:43.06 | Saint-N | err markus |
| 20:43.09 | Saint-N | not markum |
| 20:43.11 | *** join/#wowace Synyc (i=Pug@74-135-144-0.dhcp.insightbb.com) |
| 20:43.12 | markm | :) |
| 20:43.15 | Saint-N | one of you needs a new name |
| 20:43.35 | Saint-N | heh |
| 20:43.47 | NivFreak | had to boot my other client |
| 20:45.22 | Ellipsis | man it must suck to run instances and not have a DE >_> |
| 20:47.51 | Synyc | is it always this quiet in here? |
| 20:48.05 | NivFreak | shh |
| 20:49.16 | NivFreak | is thraebot running something public for those armory scrapes? |
| 20:50.08 | Mudkipz | that's weird |
| 20:50.19 | Mudkipz | my moddel cycirled vol keeps reverting back to the glossy version |
| 20:50.24 | Mudkipz | modded* |
| 20:51.29 | Synyc | combo points in pitbull become my spark on my energy bar... |
| 20:51.54 | Elkano | \o/ Head of Onyxia |
| 20:52.38 | Mudkipz | any ideas? |
| 20:53.06 | Synyc | save the profile and log out(not alt-4) |
| 20:53.20 | Synyc | err (not alt-f4) |
| 20:53.28 | Ellipsis | Mudkipz: i herd its bcuz u leik mudkipz |
| 20:53.32 | Mudkipz | :( |
| 20:53.36 | Mudkipz | not this time |
| 20:53.40 | Ellipsis | oh |
| 20:53.44 | Ellipsis | because you touch yourself at night? |
| 20:53.48 | Mudkipz | not that either |
| 20:53.59 | Mudkipz | I do it in the mornings :D |
| 20:54.02 | Ellipsis | man, I'm off my game today =[ |
| 20:54.36 | Mire | question |
| 20:55.22 | Mire | whats a great map mod that makes the map scale, allows to remove the annoying minimap world map button, and can also show guild memebers? |
| 20:55.41 | Mire | can't remember what i used pre 2.2 when i had to delete my addons and wtf to make it work :( |
| 20:55.46 | KarlThePagan | simpleMinimap Mire ? |
| 20:55.46 | Synyc | cartographer |
| 20:55.56 | Saint-N | Mudkipz: you need cyCircled-HK ;) |
| 20:55.59 | Mire | danke |
| 20:56.01 | KarlThePagan | or carto yea |
| 20:56.05 | Mudkipz | HK? |
| 20:56.11 | Saint-N | hello kitty ;) |
| 20:56.11 | _rane | is there an ace based mail addon? |
| 20:56.12 | Mudkipz | got a link? |
| 20:56.14 | Mudkipz | oh screw that |
| 20:56.15 | KarlThePagan | hah yea you want carto I'm dum |
| 20:56.16 | Synyc | lo0l |
| 20:56.16 | Aeyan | Mudkipz: I second Saint-N |
| 20:56.24 | Mudkipz | thats for pally ui's k thx |
| 20:56.24 | Saint-N | its circles with little ears and a bow |
| 20:56.26 | vithos | _rane: a lot. |
| 20:56.30 | Aeyan | _rane: Several |
| 20:56.38 | KarlThePagan | I use bulkmail |
| 20:56.44 | vithos | as do i |
| 20:56.56 | KarlThePagan | which is good... except for sending gold to alts |
| 20:57.04 | KarlThePagan | i end up having to delete mails by hand that way ;) |
| 20:57.23 | Mire | <3 clique and gird btw |
| 20:57.28 | Aeyan | I use Tekkub's priority and expressmail |
| 20:57.31 | Mire | WAY better than decusrive |
| 20:57.34 | Aeyan | Not ace, but efficient |
| 20:57.38 | KarlThePagan | hmm |
| 20:57.39 | vithos | throws errors at me frequently, but it's significantly different from any other mail mod in such a good way that i just ignore the bugs |
| 20:57.52 | Saint-N | aeyan: only because it's spelt correctly ;) |
| 20:58.06 | Synyc | <-- Question about bar mods |
| 20:58.12 | Saint-N | cogsbars |
| 20:58.18 | _rane | anyone recently encountered bug in baggins where a tooltip appears when you open the inventory without pointing any item? |
| 20:58.23 | Saint-N | get that and itll make you happy in yer pants |
| 20:58.27 | Aeyan | That went over my head =P |
| 20:58.32 | Synyc | does it have control boxes? |
| 20:58.32 | Aeyan | What's spelled correctly? |
| 20:58.45 | Mire | rane: its been mentioned alot |
| 20:58.55 | Mire | still not fixed tho |
| 20:59.08 | *** join/#wowace Ominous (n=Ominous@81-179-89-47.dsl.pipex.com) |
| 20:59.11 | Mire | i suggest bagnon, not Ace, but better nonetheless |
| 20:59.11 | _rane | Mire: good, i'm just happy it's not just me |
| 20:59.11 | Saint-N | aeyan: hehe ive been doing it all day, i meant mire, but for some reason i always direct it at the person that speaks right after them |
| 20:59.25 | Aeyan | Hehe |
| 20:59.26 | Saint-N | ark inventory |
| 20:59.27 | Ellipsis | frost mages make me giggle |
| 20:59.33 | Ellipsis | does that make me a bad person? |
| 20:59.43 | Mire | yes |
| 20:59.45 | _rane | Mire: i'll take a look at bagnon aswell |
| 20:59.47 | Mire | wait |
| 20:59.48 | Saint-N | that depends do you "find hunters useful" as well? |
| 20:59.49 | Mire | no |
| 20:59.53 | Mire | frost mages are lol |
| 21:01.27 | Mire | anyone able to find a d/l link for clique? |
| 21:01.39 | Mire | i can't find it on curse or on macaceupdater prog :x |
| 21:01.47 | Aeyan | wowinterface |
| 21:01.53 | Mire | danke |
| 21:01.55 | Aeyan | Though it's running slow at the moment |
| 21:02.06 | cladhaire | that happens when the other mod sites go down, heh |
| 21:02.08 | Ellipsis | Saint-N did you use the words hunter and useful in the same sentence? |
| 21:02.11 | Aeyan | Yep |
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| 21:02.50 | Aeyan | I liked the extreme low bandwidth version that WoWI was running there for a while =P |
| 21:02.58 | *** join/#wowace Diao (i=vschiu@ip68-225-241-233.oc.oc.cox.net) |
| 21:03.04 | cladhaire | its ugly but it works |
| 21:03.09 | cladhaire | hehe |
| 21:03.10 | Aeyan | Just a splash page with direct links to 50 mods or so |
| 21:03.30 | Aeyan | I actually like the lite version of the page |
| 21:03.49 | Mire | i lol at people who go to sites while i sit back and use my macaceupdater. |
| 21:04.00 | Elkano | Aeyan, you can choose the lite layout in your profile iirc |
| 21:04.05 | Mire | but sadly, not all my mods are ace. |
| 21:04.20 | Ellipsis | anyone else noticed spell range to be glitchy lately? |
| 21:04.26 | Ellipsis | like since patch |
| 21:04.29 | Xinhuan | fixed the issue yet clad? ;p |
| 21:04.31 | KarlThePagan | wow! http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=1778587218&postId=19971530834&sid=1#211 |
| 21:04.34 | MrUseful | URL: WoW Forums -> What is in store for 2.3? Cherry pie Here! |
| 21:04.35 | KarlThePagan | no more detect magic |
| 21:04.39 | cladhaire | Xinhuan: yep |
| 21:04.40 | Mudkipz | mangle is behaving weird on classtimers |
| 21:04.43 | Xinhuan | what was the issue? |
| 21:04.59 | Mudkipz | it only shows up and updates itself on your ui if you get the first mangle in |
| 21:05.07 | Mire | ooh last question! :p Anyone know of the mod that allowed loot tables for bosses to show up on the map? Must be an addon for cartographer..... |
| 21:05.25 | Recluse | Cartographer_InstanceLoot? |
| 21:05.34 | Mudkipz | *cough loot whore cough* |
| 21:05.45 | Aeyan | It's a module included with the cartographer main package |
| 21:05.56 | Mire | mud |
| 21:06.00 | Mire | you are correct sir! |
| 21:06.12 | Mire | but i hate exposing to wowhead constantly |
| 21:06.17 | [dRaCo] | http://ace.pastey.net/74483 <-- baggins bug :/ |
| 21:06.50 | *** join/#wowace PProvost (i=PProvost@WoWUIDev/WAU/Admin/Pprovost) |
| 21:06.50 | *** mode/#wowace [+v PProvost] by ChanServ |
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| 21:07.54 | orionshock | jello |
| 21:08.32 | Xinhuan | lol clad |
| 21:08.36 | cladhaire | ? |
| 21:08.48 | Xinhuan | your r88 explanation of the 2.2 change |
| 21:08.56 | Xinhuan | wondering how you figured that one out |
| 21:09.08 | cladhaire | troubleshooting |
| 21:09.13 | cladhaire | then confirmation |
| 21:09.18 | Ellipsis | so I'm the only person whose spells are in range on the client side but when casting gets "out of range" all the time? |
| 21:09.19 | Xinhuan | what happens if you :SetAttribute(attribute) |
| 21:09.24 | Xinhuan | i.e you don't supply the 2nd argument? |
| 21:09.54 | cladhaire | then based on how the C function is implemented, it would work as expected |
| 21:09.58 | cladhaire | or, toss an error |
| 21:10.08 | cladhaire | it depends on whether its grabbing a possible nil value from the stack |
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| 21:10.47 | Nickenyfiken | omg patch 2.3 will rock |
| 21:10.59 | Lukian | are you a ret paladin? :P |
| 21:11.13 | Kody | must be a rogue! |
| 21:11.28 | Kody | i think i'll respec my paladin to ret :O |
| 21:11.44 | Lukian | 15% movement speed increase is tempting :o |
| 21:12.43 | rob` | it's pretty low in the tree |
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| 21:13.03 | rob` | doing something like 38/0/23 would work well |
| 21:13.22 | Lukian | lol sif holy :p |
| 21:13.30 | Recluse | anyone have a 2.3 current changelog link? |
| 21:13.37 | rob` | I'm 0/44/17 myself |
| 21:14.00 | Lukian | Yeah I was looking at that spec rob` :o |
| 21:14.11 | rob` | i like improved ret aura :) |
| 21:14.19 | Paene | bah my server's voice chat isn't even working |
| 21:14.28 | rob` | and there's a paladin in my guild I'm talking into going ret next patch so I can have sanc aura :9 |
| 21:14.33 | Lukian | It's not enabled yet.. like the majority @ Paene ? :p |
| 21:14.34 | Recluse | <- 5/10/46 rogue |
| 21:14.50 | Lukian | hehe rob` |
| 21:14.51 | rob` | a triple-paladin tank group with a shadow priest and an elemental shaman |
| 21:14.59 | rob` | NOBODY is ripping void reaver off me |
| 21:15.00 | Lukian | rob`, ouch :D |
| 21:15.48 | NeoTron | I just can't see ret pally as more thana waste of a raid spot |
| 21:16.21 | NeoTron | but then agai I suspect our ret pally is overall a rather poor pve player |
| 21:17.05 | rob` | ret paladins synergize well with prot paladins |
| 21:17.05 | Mudkipz | its just that holy pallies are 10x greater |
| 21:17.08 | Nickenyfiken | No I'm a enhance shaman |
| 21:17.22 | Mudkipz | which is why raids want them |
| 21:17.38 | rob` | 12% more threat generated by the paladin tank, yum |
| 21:17.55 | rob` | the ret paladin could be a drooling idiot |
| 21:17.59 | rob` | and we'd still be better off |
| 21:18.25 | NeoTron | our prot pally doesn't seem to have any threat issues |
| 21:18.32 | NeoTron | if anything, he seems to have issues generating too much threat |
| 21:18.35 | rob` | You can always push it higher :D |
| 21:18.42 | Mudkipz | no such think as too much threat |
| 21:18.45 | Mudkipz | thing* |
| 21:18.50 | NeoTron | besides, if you don't put the ret pally in a shammy/druid/melee dps group he'll QQ till you drown |
| 21:19.25 | Mudkipz | I guess prot pallies can work |
| 21:19.25 | rob` | I must say I'm looking forward to the discipline priest buffs. The 41-pt talent is looking GREAT for paladin tanks - combined with ardent defender, you double your effective health below 35%. :9 |
| 21:19.33 | Mudkipz | just like how we only have 1 prot warr and the rest are feral druids |
| 21:19.39 | rob` | so priest goes "ohshit" and slams pain suppression on the tank |
| 21:19.45 | rob` | suddenly your 6k health turns into 14k health |
| 21:20.00 | buu | Yay priests! |
| 21:20.01 | rob` | passive shield wall every 2 minutes |
| 21:20.03 | rob` | WHEE |
| 21:20.12 | rob` | who needs warriors |
| 21:20.28 | buu | Who needs tanks. |
| 21:20.33 | buu | We'll use a pet. |
| 21:20.43 | supp | retr pala 4tl |
| 21:20.47 | Mudkipz | we used a pet on anubrekhan |
| 21:20.53 | Mudkipz | that was load of fun |
| 21:20.57 | rob` | hah, that's hilarious |
| 21:21.10 | Mudkipz | it was a pink flamingo too |
| 21:21.11 | Mudkipz | booyeah |
| 21:21.22 | rob` | that's hilarious ^^ |
| 21:21.52 | Ellipsis | dude my VW can do this |
| 21:21.58 | rob` | the low level ret buffs are really nice - paladin tanks typically go 12-17 points in ret depending on preference, so it's easy to pick up imp SoC. |
| 21:22.09 | rob` | which means, as soon as 2.3 hits, my raids are doing 3% more crit across the board |
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| 21:23.02 | rob` | and if I can pick up a ret paladin, we'll be doing that, AND keeping wisdom/light up, AND sanctity aura on the tank, AND doing decent dps on his own |
| 21:23.10 | rob` | ret paladins are going to be a no-brainer for my raids |
| 21:23.24 | rob` | yes, he'll be qq'ing about not being in the melee group |
| 21:23.27 | rob` | but f it, he's not there for dps |
| 21:27.31 | Mech0z | Any acemod that shows "progress" bars like Deadly boss mod in battlegrounds? |
| 21:27.41 | KarlThePagan | capping |
| 21:27.42 | Mech0z | for base capping |
| 21:28.18 | Ellipsis | why does a boss mod do PvP stuff? |
| 21:28.19 | Ellipsis | >_> |
| 21:28.27 | KarlThePagan | flag timers |
| 21:28.43 | Mech0z | no clue Ellipsis but its nice :) but I want acemods so I can just open my aceupdater^ |
| 21:29.09 | CIA-22 | 03bayi * r50073 10beql/beql.toc: beql: - Toc update for 2.2 |
| 21:29.10 | Nickenyfiken | Mech0z: so you say that a player that only raid need BG timers? |
| 21:29.33 | Mech0z | Nickenyfiken, when did I say that? |
| 21:29.44 | Mech0z | I said its a nice feature, but I want it in an acemod |
| 21:29.54 | sedatedChipmunk | KarlThePagan: bmi deletes gold-only mails |
| 21:29.55 | Mech0z | so I hvae an easier time keeping my mods uptodate |
| 21:30.10 | sedatedChipmunk | and you can always enable the alt-click-to-delete |
| 21:30.13 | Nickenyfiken | ... |
| 21:30.25 | RogueShadow | Mech0z, It's true, but don't forget. Up to date doesn't always mean "works" or "isn't completely screwed up now" |
| 21:30.47 | Mech0z | RogueShadow, I know :) but its still easier :) |
| 21:30.57 | Mech0z | downloading it from curse is the same issue |
| 21:31.00 | RogueShadow | Mech0z, Just wanted to make sure. |
| 21:31.01 | KarlThePagan | sedatedChipmunk, hmm well I don't know what I'm doing wrong |
| 21:31.04 | FtH|Daemona | Funkeh` , didnt check yet, did you add the 15min enrage timer ? (starts when entering combat) |
| 21:31.13 | KarlThePagan | I have no text in the mail and for a subject I just put "g" |
| 21:31.14 | FtH|Daemona | (for illidan) |
| 21:31.21 | KarlThePagan | because the game seems to require a subject line for any mail |
| 21:31.26 | *** join/#wowace sergio (n=sp@unaffiliated/sergio) |
| 21:31.35 | KarlThePagan | it works for AH mail, but not alt gold mail |
| 21:31.38 | Mech0z | But some good Acemodder should make a battleground mod with Capping bars |
| 21:31.50 | KarlThePagan | Mech0z, try "Capping" |
| 21:31.59 | FtH|Daemona | i think there is? Mech0z look for capping or so |
| 21:32.03 | FtH|Daemona | ... beaten.. |
| 21:32.19 | Mudkipz | why am I getting this error? <string>:"- Create a new ace2 addon for hooking...":1: unexpected symbol near '-' |
| 21:32.34 | NightHawkTheSane | Mudkipz: because someone fails at making a comment |
| 21:32.35 | Funkeh` | FtH|Daemona: for illidan? |
| 21:32.35 | Mech0z | KarlThePagan, oh I thought you just meant I should use another word than "progress bar" lol :D |
| 21:32.38 | Funkeh` | no |
| 21:32.47 | Funkeh` | But I've been told its being changed anyway |
| 21:32.47 | KarlThePagan | hah yea that's really the name of the mod |
| 21:32.51 | NeoTron | so |
| 21:32.55 | FtH|Daemona | NO WAI |
| 21:33.01 | ennuilg | Quick question - if I have an addon using AceLocale, and it doesn't have a localisation file for a particular client - will the addon fail completely, or just be in English? |
| 21:33.04 | Mech0z | KarlThePagan, getting it right away :) |
| 21:33.06 | NeoTron | I wonder who'd pay 2000g to get a new mount that has the exact same stats as other mounts |
| 21:33.18 | Xinhuan | epeeeen |
| 21:33.28 | FtH|Daemona | the same persons that play arena for the mount? |
| 21:33.32 | NeoTron | the <I got extra gold to waste> category.. |
| 21:33.36 | KarlThePagan | same reason engineers will craft a mount that's available for 200g |
| 21:33.41 | NeoTron | FtH|Daemona: incorrect. The arena mount is faster |
| 21:33.44 | Mech0z | KarlThePagan, does it by any chance show who is carrying the flag in WSG? :p |
| 21:33.48 | sedatedChipmunk | KarlThePagan: that's why |
| 21:33.53 | KarlThePagan | FtH|Daemona, that one is faster |
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| 21:33.54 | sedatedChipmunk | let BM fill in the text for you |
| 21:34.00 | KarlThePagan | Mech0z, i forget :/ |
| 21:34.10 | Mech0z | ok |
| 21:34.13 | Funkeh` | FtH|Daemona: someone telling me its being hotfixed changed |
| 21:34.18 | sedatedChipmunk | it'll fill in the amount, plus a ninja \255 that tells BMI that it came from bulkmail |
| 21:34.23 | FtH|Daemona | hmmk |
| 21:34.24 | Mech0z | Anyone know if Automaton has a "surpress escape key bug" ? |
| 21:34.30 | sedatedChipmunk | and that it's a cash-only message that can be autodeleted |
| 21:34.31 | NeoTron | so apparently today al'ar has really been hotfixed |
| 21:34.34 | Mech0z | Can only think of that mod being the reason |
| 21:35.01 | weab | Mech0z: elaborate. |
| 21:35.01 | KarlThePagan | sedatedChipmunk, so the use case for that is... fill in recipient name, fill in gold amount, and then hit "send" ? |
| 21:35.04 | sedatedChipmunk | normally, there's no way to delete money-only |
| 21:35.05 | sedatedChipmunk | yes |
| 21:35.12 | KarlThePagan | i'll try it again, thanks |
| 21:35.27 | hyperChipmunk | and then you can just use bmi's Take cash |
| 21:35.32 | KarlThePagan | yea |
| 21:35.52 | Funkeh` | Anyone here speak spanish? |
| 21:36.01 | Mudkipz | NightHawkTheSane, not sure what you mean |
| 21:36.18 | CIA-22 | 03warloxx * r50074 10GameLobby/ (6 files in 2 dirs): |
| 21:36.18 | CIA-22 | GameLobby: |
| 21:36.18 | CIA-22 | - added the RoundBasedGame class to make it easier to code a round based game. (for example: local round_based_game = GameLobby:NewGame(RoundBasedGame)) |
| 21:36.18 | CIA-22 | - The function GameLobby:NewGame() returns now an empty class. You have to deliver the class to inherit from on your own. (for example: local game = GameLobby:NewGame(BasicServer)) |
| 21:36.19 | CIA-22 | - New server can no longeger created by doubleclicking the game button but rightclicking the button. |
| 21:36.23 | CIA-22 | - Deletes doubles in scripts table and move them to an "all" table. Modified the script resore func to handle this new layout |
| 21:36.29 | Mech0z | weab, well sometimes (I can't see a pattern) my escape key wont open my game menu even though nothing is open (which it could close) |
| 21:36.48 | Ellipsis | hyperChipmunk, you are hax |
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| 21:37.15 | weab | i highly doubt it's related to automaton. |
| 21:37.30 | hyperChipmunk | and whoever was saying the bulkmail UI was unintuitive, that's because you think a little differently when you're using all the features it offers, and the UI facilitates that perspective |
| 21:37.33 | Stanzilla2 | ..\FrameXML\ContainerFrame.lua line 295: attempt to index local 'itemButton' (a nil value) O.o |
| 21:38.21 | Mech0z | weab, ok |
| 21:38.35 | Mech0z | here is my addon list if that gives any clues http://images.uploadimago.net/?s=7085Untitled.jpg |
| 21:38.40 | Mech0z | its a rather annyoing bug :/ |
| 21:38.53 | CIA-22 | 03warloxx * r50075 10GameLobby_TicTacToe/TicTacToe.lua: |
| 21:38.53 | CIA-22 | GameLobby_TicTacToe: |
| 21:38.53 | CIA-22 | - now uses the RoundBasedGame class |
| 21:39.37 | weab | unless someone's added something to the wowace svn that has something to do with esc that I don't know about |
| 21:39.54 | sedai| | Any thoughts on why my gear tooltips arent showing up? |
| 21:40.02 | weab | I've been using my local svn for my copy so I don't know if the wowace version has been changed in the past month or so. |
| 21:40.04 | Mudkipz | update itemrack |
| 21:40.15 | sedai| | oh |
| 21:40.17 | RogueShadow | hmm. I should try that bulkmail mod. Good for sending items to alts... receiving auctions etc... |
| 21:41.00 | JoshBorke | RogueShadow: i just use CT_MailMod |
| 21:41.00 | hyperChipmunk | http://www.wowace.com/wiki/BulkMail2 |
| 21:41.01 | Mech0z | well weab Iam fully aced so it just seems strange :/ but it might be a mod that "shows" a window I cant see which it tries to close or something |
| 21:41.06 | hyperChipmunk | and http://www.wowace.com/wiki/BulkMail2Inbox |
| 21:41.15 | hyperChipmunk | and /kick JoshBorke |
| 21:41.20 | JoshBorke | ~lart hpe |
| 21:41.20 | purl | squeezes hpe till hpe turns blue like papa smurf |
| 21:41.22 | RogueShadow | JoshBorke, yeah, but hyperchipmunk has links!@ |
| 21:41.25 | JoshBorke | ~lart hyperChipmunk |
| 21:41.25 | purl | drops a truckload of VAXen on hyperChipmunk |
| 21:41.46 | sedai| | I am seeing two tooltips in my bag |
| 21:41.53 | sedai| | i use ARKInventory |
| 21:41.59 | Mech0z | sedai|, get glasses |
| 21:42.04 | Diao | lol |
| 21:42.08 | sedai| | i see the generic one and the tinytip one |
| 21:42.11 | Mech0z | next step after first step |
| 21:42.18 | Kemayo | hyperChipmunk: Your "ninja \255" isn't terribly ninja-y if you're using clearfont. >_> |
| 21:42.23 | sedai| | ...haha? |
| 21:42.35 | Xinhuan | hah |
| 21:42.37 | hyperChipmunk | whatever; it works |
| 21:42.56 | hyperChipmunk | if you get a bizarre character at the end, then that's your own problem |
| 21:43.11 | Xinhuan | use \32 then ;p |
| 21:43.14 | Kemayo | hyperChipmunk: Yeah, I don't mind it. I only just realised when I saw you mention it that it's what was causing the "?" at the end of all my subjects. |
| 21:43.27 | Hjalte | kaelten, where do you want feature requests for wau2? |
| 21:43.29 | hyperChipmunk | it doesn't need to be ninja; it just needs to identify uniquely |
| 21:44.28 | hyperChipmunk | well i can't change it now =) |
| 21:44.30 | Kaelten | email karlthepagan |
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| 21:45.02 | RogueShadow | uh, can you return items to the auction house from the mail? that screenshot of bulkmail2inbox seems to suggest so. I've never used the return button before.... |
| 21:45.04 | KarlThePagan | Hjalte, yup |
| 21:45.16 | Hjalte | KarlThePagan: You're developing it now? |
| 21:45.21 | hyperChipmunk | you can't |
| 21:45.34 | KarlThePagan | after my work release deadline |
| 21:45.40 | KarlThePagan | I shall return |
| 21:46.00 | Ellipsis | wow, epic win by mage |
| 21:46.29 | hyperChipmunk | well, i suppose you might |
| 21:46.32 | hyperChipmunk | i haven't really tried |
| 21:46.33 | Ellipsis | bad pull on murmur brought two groups at once and he managed to run all the way back to the instance portal with mobs chasing him the whole way XD |
| 21:46.48 | hyperChipmunk | there's a 'returnable' field in the mail header |
| 21:47.05 | hyperChipmunk | if they say they can be returned, maybe they can |
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| 21:47.24 | hyperChipmunk | i wouldn't try it with anything too important though =p |
| 21:47.53 | *** part/#wowace Herr (n=pipistot@HSI-KBW-091-089-016-246.hsi2.kabelbw.de) |
| 21:48.41 | RogueShadow | hmm. |
| 21:49.04 | CIA-22 | 03warloxx * r50076 10GameLobby/BasicServer.lua: |
| 21:49.04 | CIA-22 | GameLobby: |
| 21:49.04 | CIA-22 | - fixed bug that the "Launch game" button doesn't disable if the nessesary amount of players isn't reached |
| 21:50.25 | Xinhuan | if you send an invalid itemlink via SendAddOnMessage(), would it disconnect you? |
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| 21:53.00 | hyperChipmunk | no, but rabid gnomes will come to your house and eat your innards |
| 21:53.16 | rob` | mm, innards. |
| 21:53.28 | Kebinusan | at least they arent brain eaters |
| 21:53.32 | ulic | but happens to the outards? |
| 21:55.38 | RogueShadow | game lobby? |
| 21:56.09 | RogueShadow | -GameLobby |
| 21:56.12 | RogueShadow | er |
| 21:56.14 | *** join/#wowace Tinyboom (n=Flexom@186.80-202-156.nextgentel.com) |
| 21:56.16 | RogueShadow | ~GameLobby |
| 21:56.22 | JCinDE | nevcairiel awak? |
| 21:56.25 | JCinDE | awake*? |
| 21:56.38 | RogueShadow | just got out of work. same thing |
| 21:56.41 | Hjalte | It seems GameLobby is going to be some ingame mini game central.. of sorts. |
| 21:57.09 | RogueShadow | That'd be pretty cool. |
| 21:57.27 | CIA-22 | 03kaybe * r50077 10Klappa/ (6 files): |
| 21:57.27 | CIA-22 | Klappa: |
| 21:57.27 | CIA-22 | -added locking for buttons |
| 21:57.27 | CIA-22 | -added cyCircled support |
| 21:57.46 | Vires | So instead of actually playing WoW, we play minigames in it! Whoohoo! |
| 21:57.54 | RogueShadow | Good for long flights? |
| 21:58.01 | RogueShadow | Waiting for groups. |
| 21:58.02 | RogueShadow | etc... |
| 21:58.08 | shieldb | hyperChipmunk, has anyone harassed you about bulkmail2 appending question marks to every subject since 2.2? ;) |
| 21:58.18 | ulic | used to play poker all the time waiting for Nef |
| 21:58.27 | Mech0z | weab, http://images.uploadimago.net/?s=6017WoWScrnShot_092707_235515.jpg |
| 21:58.28 | Mech0z | here |
| 21:58.32 | Vires | Can't heal you, too busy playing Solitaire? |
| 21:58.35 | Mech0z | see my charecter frame is in the middle |
| 21:58.47 | RogueShadow | s/That'd be pretty cool./Hi |
| 21:58.57 | hyperChipmunk | shieldb: no, i was just made aware of it |
| 21:59.02 | Mech0z | and here I cant press escape after I closed the char frame to enter the menu |
| 21:59.07 | Xinhuan | i have a 2-player game for wow |
| 21:59.13 | Xinhuan | its kinda like 2 player tetris |
| 21:59.17 | Xinhuan | an addon i wrote |
| 21:59.21 | Xinhuan | but never released ever ;p |
| 21:59.26 | shieldb | it's extremely trivial, it just looks odd seeing every mail with a "?" at the end of the subject |
| 21:59.33 | hyperChipmunk | yea |
| 21:59.39 | hyperChipmunk | someone suggested using \32 instead of \255 as my marker |
| 21:59.56 | Xinhuan | it allows 2 players to challenge each other to a real time game ;p |
| 22:00.33 | hyperChipmunk | i'm gonna try it out, but it will break for mails sent before upgrading and received after |
| 22:00.41 | hyperChipmunk | again, trivially, but still... |
| 22:01.04 | hyperChipmunk | it's the principle >8( |
| 22:01.21 | *** join/#wowace Vegeta (n=Vegeta-G@85.8.89.117) |
| 22:01.38 | shieldb | oh, any plans to somehow have the open all button eat all the stupid "your auction money will arrive at XX time" mails from the auction house? |
| 22:02.09 | hyperChipmunk | i didn't know there were such mails to eat |
| 22:02.27 | shieldb | yeah, 2.2 added an hour delay to recieving money from AH sales, supposedly to combat gold selling |
| 22:02.31 | hyperChipmunk | brb |
| 22:02.31 | Dustwhisper | anyone else have issues with recount not showing anyuthing at all ? |
| 22:02.33 | hyperChipmunk | er, mis |
| 22:02.36 | Dustwhisper | it doesnt register anything for me |
| 22:03.12 | shieldb | so someone buys your item, you get a mail immediately that's something like "Sale of XXXX is pending, your money is estimated to arrive at such and such a time" and then after that time passes you get the normal AH mail with the money in it. |
| 22:03.48 | Dustwhisper | i have 6 posts in mail with pending 28 days |
| 22:03.51 | Dustwhisper | pissing me to fuck off |
| 22:03.56 | shieldb | 28? |
| 22:04.12 | shieldb | was it some enormous sale? |
| 22:04.13 | *** join/#wowace evl (n=fuckoff@unaffiliated/evl) |
| 22:04.20 | shieldb | did you sell a thousand items at once? |
| 22:04.30 | shieldb | or is it just being stupid :| |
| 22:04.31 | Xinhuan | i regularly go thru 200 mail a day in my mailbox |
| 22:04.43 | *** join/#wowace a[b]raxas (i=me@dslb-088-065-123-144.pools.arcor-ip.net) |
| 22:05.33 | Xinhuan | so the 1 hour change is slightly annoying that i have to deal with 300 now |
| 22:05.33 | Xinhuan | and i can't figure out which one i just sold |
| 22:05.33 | Xinhuan | since the pending mail comes, means i sold it |
| 22:05.33 | Xinhuan | so i put another on the AH |
| 22:05.34 | Xinhuan | then the money comes, and i dont know if i placed a replacement on the AH yet |
| 22:05.35 | a[b]raxas | hello, I have a pretty complicated question.. well |
| 22:05.42 | sag_ich_nicht | guys how long would it take to get about 51k honor? |
| 22:05.46 | a[b]raxas | maybe not complicated but its quite a shitty problem |
| 22:05.55 | Xinhuan | since if you don't check the mail for > 1 hour, it doesn't generate the intermediate pending mails |
| 22:05.56 | Stanzilla2 | sag_ich_nicht: 2 weekends |
| 22:06.03 | Xinhuan | sag_ich_nicht: 51 hours |
| 22:06.04 | shieldb | yeah I'm running into that on my bank character as well |
| 22:06.17 | a[b]raxas | a while ago after updating with WAU my thumb button stopped working in WoW |
| 22:06.23 | Xinhuan | so if you do 3 hours a day - 17 days |
| 22:06.30 | a[b]raxas | how would I go about finding out which addon is responsible for that? :/ |
| 22:06.32 | Xinhuan | if you do 18 hours a day - 3 days |
| 22:06.36 | sag_ich_nicht | Xinhuan well that sucks. |
| 22:06.38 | sag_ich_nicht | i work |
| 22:06.38 | sag_ich_nicht | >< |
| 22:06.55 | Xinhuan | well you could have botted before 2.2 |
| 22:06.56 | Xinhuan | lolz |
| 22:07.00 | Ellipsis | hey guess who didn't get any l00ts |
| 22:07.01 | Ellipsis | again |
| 22:07.02 | Ellipsis | >_> |
| 22:07.10 | sag_ich_nicht | *sigh* that is lame Xinhuan |
| 22:07.12 | Tinyboom | yay, managed to get wow running in ubuntu:D (for a linux noob like that's not bad:p) |
| 22:07.18 | Xinhuan | Ellipsis: it means you get BIGGER fish next time ;p |
| 22:07.25 | sag_ich_nicht | Ellipsis |
| 22:07.28 | Stanzilla2 | Ellipsis: ME! |
| 22:07.29 | sag_ich_nicht | i went to SMV today |
| 22:07.31 | sag_ich_nicht | to do a quest |
| 22:07.33 | Ellipsis | Xinhuan: well I've been saving up my luck for about 3 weeks now, so... |
| 22:07.34 | Stanzilla2 | we had 3 kara groups today |
| 22:07.35 | sag_ich_nicht | i killed the first quest mob |
| 22:07.36 | CIA-22 | 03mikma * r50079 10!Scrooge/ (. !Scrooge.toc Scrooge.lua): !Scrooge: Kills all Ace2/Rock donation links on any piece of code that checks for X-Donate or donate in configuration |
| 22:07.36 | CIA-22 | 03pettigrow * r50078 10Babble-2.2/Babble-Boss-2.2/Babble-Boss-2.2.lua: Babble-2.2: Boss: frFR Update |
| 22:07.41 | Stanzilla2 | in 2 groups my wanted items dropped |
| 22:07.42 | sag_ich_nicht | and the plans for Ragesteel Shoulders dropped |
| 22:07.42 | Ellipsis | I deserve freaking legendaries next time something drops for me |
| 22:07.48 | Stanzilla2 | and I was in the 3rd :( |
| 22:07.50 | Ellipsis | grats sag_ich_nicht |
| 22:07.56 | Saint-N | hahha mikma |
| 22:07.56 | Xinhuan | o_O at !Scrooge |
| 22:07.59 | hyperChipmunk | mikma: rofl |
| 22:08.00 | sag_ich_nicht | FIRST MOB FIRST KILL 1 DAY AFTER PATCH CHRIST :X |
| 22:08.10 | Shadowed | hyperChipmunk it's me actually, but i'm too lazy to get an svn account |
| 22:08.14 | Ellipsis | mikma ftw |
| 22:08.15 | Shadowed | so i usem ikmas |
| 22:08.19 | hyperChipmunk | lol |
| 22:08.24 | Shadowed | mikmas* |
| 22:08.24 | hyperChipmunk | stab Kaelten some |
| 22:08.30 | Shadowed | i'm lazy |
| 22:08.35 | hyperChipmunk | that's actually really bad |
| 22:08.39 | Xinhuan | by the way, naming an addon with ! as the first letter doesn't gaurantee that it loads before other addons |
| 22:08.43 | Shadowed | yea i know |
| 22:09.09 | Shadowed | it depends on the OS mainly, but (at least for me) on XP it goes by alpha order |
| 22:09.11 | Xinhuan | if your harddrive uses FAT32, windows returns the folders in natural creation order (which is affected by defrag), and that is the order they load in |
| 22:09.14 | *** part/#wowace Warloxx (n=test@d90-128-2-76.cust.tele2.de) |
| 22:09.25 | Ellipsis | if you use FAT32 you have bigger problems |
| 22:09.27 | Xinhuan | if your harddrive uses NTFS, OS returns it in alpha order |
| 22:09.29 | Kaelten | ~lart hyperChipmunk |
| 22:09.29 | purl | throws a AN/M-8 smoke grenade at hyperChipmunk |
| 22:09.36 | Shadowed | Kaelten can i get an SVN account! |
| 22:09.37 | a[b]raxas | anyone? |
| 22:09.39 | Xinhuan | oh but i'm saying it for the sake of saying it |
| 22:09.50 | Xinhuan | naming an addon with ! as the first letter doesn't make it load first |
| 22:09.53 | hyperChipmunk | ext3 doesn't guarantee alpha order |
| 22:09.54 | Xinhuan | it justdoes for most OSes |
| 22:10.01 | hyperChipmunk | Kaelten: give shadowed his own svn account |
| 22:10.01 | Xinhuan | but not all |
| 22:10.02 | Mech0z | weab, any clue what might cause it? |
| 22:10.16 | Shadowed | the only reason it even needs to load first is mostly because i'm too lazy to hack through RockConfig and Waterfall |
| 22:10.17 | vhaarr | ~seen andalia |
| 22:10.27 | purl | andalia <i=xx@p54AC9D24.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowi-lounge, 114d 4h 11m 49s ago, saying: 'hmm...I wont use dfm ;) But there must be a way :('. |
| 22:10.27 | Kaelten | email me or if you already have, then please be patient. |
| 22:10.27 | Xinhuan | and varies with file system, such as FAT32 vs NTFS |
| 22:10.27 | hyperChipmunk | he really shouldn't be getting blames for mikma |
| 22:10.27 | Shadowed | fineee |
| 22:10.35 | Kaelten | :P |
| 22:10.43 | Shadowed | but mikma is a good scapegoat! |
| 22:10.43 | Kaelten | I've worked 40 hours in the last 3 days |
| 22:10.51 | Shadowed | fun |
| 22:10.54 | mikma | scapegoat to rock the boat |
| 22:11.00 | Xinhuan | Kaelten, would !Scrooge be considered addon harassment? |
| 22:11.06 | Shadowed | it's perfectly valid |
| 22:11.15 | Shadowed | the donation buttons are annoyingly large |
| 22:11.23 | hyperChipmunk | yea, but if we want to ask a question or make a suggestion, we can no longer trust any of either of your commits anymore |
| 22:11.23 | ulic | vhaarr: thought about the missing items thing. do you feel it's important to save the missing items rather then overwritting them? |
| 22:11.30 | Shadowed | and if you want to remove them, you aren't going to be donating anyway. Just like pop up blockers |
| 22:11.48 | *** join/#wowace Gandharva (n=Miranda@dslb-084-057-059-234.pools.arcor-ip.net) |
| 22:11.48 | Shadowed | s/pop up/ad/ |
| 22:11.51 | *** join/#wowace Ominous_ (n=Ominous@81-179-89-47.dsl.pipex.com) |
| 22:12.05 | Ellipsis | NOOOOOO |
| 22:12.12 | a[b]raxas | anyone have any idea why my thumb button would stop working? |
| 22:12.22 | Shadowed | wear and tear? |
| 22:12.27 | hyperChipmunk | is your thumb still attached? |
| 22:12.29 | Kaelten | you masterbate at night? |
| 22:12.29 | Saint-N | you installed something that took over the binding |
| 22:12.38 | Saint-N | kael |
| 22:12.39 | Xinhuan | well the fact is, naming an addon starting with ! does put it on the first page/front page on files.wowace.com |
| 22:12.42 | Saint-N | i dont wanna email you |
| 22:12.43 | RogueShadow | ad blockers scary things... Depends on the ad... |
| 22:12.43 | Xinhuan | in plain sight |
| 22:12.44 | Ellipsis | GWF Disenchant Predictor doesn't autoloot DE's anymore |
| 22:12.47 | Ellipsis | /wrists |
| 22:12.52 | Saint-N | go make me an svn account ;P |
| 22:12.52 | *** join/#wowace Azurewrath (i=Azurewra@i59F553C1.versanet.de) |
| 22:12.58 | Kaelten | Saint-N: email :P |
| 22:12.59 | Ellipsis | s/GWF/GFW/ |
| 22:13.00 | Xinhuan | not sure if its a good idea |
| 22:13.04 | Xinhuan | or encouraged |
| 22:13.05 | Saint-N | i did! |
| 22:13.10 | Saint-N | no wait i didnt |
| 22:13.10 | a[b]raxas | Saint-N I updated my addons with WAU and it stopped working. How would I go about finding out which addon caused this? |
| 22:13.11 | Kaelten | wait |
| 22:13.18 | Shadowed | i'd have to do actual work to go with a different name |
| 22:13.19 | Kaelten | no wait email |
| 22:13.23 | *** join/#wowace Azurewrath (i=Azurewra@i59F553C1.versanet.de) |
| 22:13.23 | Saint-N | disable them all and see if it works? |
| 22:13.27 | a[b]raxas | it's still bound in the key bindings menu, but it doesn't actually do anything |
| 22:13.30 | a[b]raxas | I can't rebind it either |
| 22:13.31 | vhaarr | ulic: I don't understand |
| 22:13.35 | a[b]raxas | it's like my mouse has no thumb buttons in WoW |
| 22:13.36 | a[b]raxas | =/ |
| 22:13.42 | Antiarc | http://www.superdeluxe.com/sd/contentDetail.do?id=D81F2344BF5AC7BB2436F396DFC34DF9E3B7C4B466C16CCE |
| 22:13.45 | Saint-N | what did it use to do? |
| 22:14.17 | Shadowed | svn email is hiding =( |
| 22:14.21 | Vires | You didn't install any drivers like SetPoint did you? |
| 22:14.30 | Saint-N | Kaelten: gibbor me yer email |
| 22:14.31 | ulic | vhaarr: well I was thinking, if not overwritting the missing items is a useful thing, then you need a way to allow users to choose to overwrite them if they wanted to, thus toggling from yellow to green would be useful. |
| 22:14.33 | a[b]raxas | nope, already had that installed |
| 22:14.37 | Shadowed | did funky delete it or something |
| 22:14.43 | a[b]raxas | Saint-N: my thumb button is auto-run normally |
| 22:14.52 | Saint-N | aba-: so rebind it |
| 22:14.55 | vhaarr | ulic: overwriting them? |
| 22:14.57 | Kaelten | Saint-N: its the one on the SVN_Rules page |
| 22:15.06 | a[b]raxas | I tried, it's still bound to Mouse4, if I delete the bind I can't rebind it |
| 22:15.08 | vhaarr | ulic: I thought the whole point you were making was just to make them yellow |
| 22:15.12 | a[b]raxas | it doesn't recognize it when I press it |
| 22:15.16 | vhaarr | ulic: does your patch actually do anything else? |
| 22:15.20 | Saint-N | a[b]raxas: find the \ key in the list and then rebind yer thumb button (button 4 or 5) to whatever / is |
| 22:15.23 | *** join/#wowace Ominous_ (n=Ominous@81-179-89-47.dsl.pipex.com) |
| 22:15.31 | a[b]raxas | it works in windows and any other game |
| 22:15.32 | Shadowed | oh it was hiding in a tag instead of just an address |
| 22:15.35 | a[b]raxas | oh hm |
| 22:15.38 | ulic | vhaarr: yes, it saves the items that are missing and doesn't overwrite them with the currently equipped items. |
| 22:15.41 | hyperChipmunk | actually, you should make !-prefixed addons show up last on the wowace page =p |
| 22:15.44 | Saint-N | Kaelten: just gimme yer email damn you! |
| 22:15.45 | Antiarc | http://www.reuters.com/article/domesticNews/idUSN2623880720070926?rpc=92 |
| 22:15.45 | Ellipsis | ooh wow I got offered 3g to run Scarlet Monastery |
| 22:15.52 | Ellipsis | I'm totally gonna do that |
| 22:16.03 | Shadowed | it's wowace-svn-requests@googlegroups.com |
| 22:16.14 | vhaarr | ulic: right, now THAT is a good thing |
| 22:16.15 | a[b]raxas | Saint-N: I can't rebind Mouse4 to anything tho, that's really the problem |
| 22:16.15 | Shadowed | help |
| 22:16.21 | Shadowed | whats 13 - 3 for creating a wiki account! |
| 22:16.31 | ulic | vhaarr: ah ok, good, now we're understanding each other better :) |
| 22:16.47 | Saint-N | a[b] onyl real solution to correct it is to move yer WTF folder and let wow recreate when you load up and see if that corrects it |
| 22:16.55 | Stanzilla2 | Ellipsis: u're cheap |
| 22:16.59 | a[b]raxas | oh yeah I didn't think of that |
| 22:17.01 | a[b]raxas | I'm gonna try that |
| 22:17.03 | Saint-N | then slowly start re-enabling addons til it breaks |
| 22:17.05 | Stanzilla2 | I got 100g once for ZulFarak |
| 22:17.06 | *** join/#wowace Kelben (n=me@S0106001a70fc4e0f.ed.shawcable.net) |
| 22:17.08 | Kaelten | 10 |
| 22:17.10 | a[b]raxas | ugh |
| 22:17.11 | a[b]raxas | haha |
| 22:17.12 | Kaelten | er no 11 |
| 22:17.15 | ulic | vhaarr: yes the yellow denotes they are missing, and won't get overwritten by the currently equipped item, which I believe is the way Trunk works iirc. |
| 22:17.16 | Kaelten | maybe 9 |
| 22:17.16 | Kaelten | not sure |
| 22:17.36 | Kelben | hey - quick question anyone remember which mod allows you create a dream set in game to see how your stats are adjusted and what not? |
| 22:17.45 | Xinhuan | Kelben: WoWEquip |
| 22:17.55 | ulic | vhaarr: but turning them to green will overwrite, and red will simply not remember the slot. |
| 22:17.59 | Ominous_ | kaelten what was the highest usage on the file server over the last few das |
| 22:18.03 | Xinhuan | he sure quit fast! |
| 22:18.05 | *** join/#wowace Kelben (n=me@S0106001a70fc4e0f.ed.shawcable.net) |
| 22:18.11 | Kelben | thnaks xinhuan |
| 22:18.14 | Kelben | thanks* |
| 22:18.20 | Xinhuan | o_O |
| 22:18.34 | Antiarc | http://www.neatorama.com/2007/09/25/john-p-harvard-goes-halo/ |
| 22:18.37 | CIA-22 | 03ulic * r50080 10LittleWigs/TempestKeep/Capacitus.lua: LittleWigs: update esES from Bailon |
| 22:18.38 | Antiarc | Awesome. Pure awesome. |
| 22:19.03 | Funkeh` | Antiarc: fix threat |
| 22:19.15 | Antiarc | Funkeh`: Working on it. |
| 22:19.25 | Saint-N | Antiarc: don't do it it's a TRAP! |
| 22:19.26 | CIA-22 | 03hyperactiveChipmunk * r50081 10BulkMail2/BulkMail.lua: |
| 22:19.26 | CIA-22 | BulkMail2: |
| 22:19.26 | CIA-22 | - use \32s instead of \255s for ensuring subject uniqueness, since people are reporting \255s showing up as ?s post-2.2 |
| 22:19.28 | Kaelten | 320ish MBits |
| 22:19.53 | Ominous_ | Kaelten: in how long? |
| 22:20.32 | Xinhuan | btw hyperChipmunk: i suggested that, don't blame me if it doesn't work ;p |
| 22:20.58 | Xinhuan | i also don't remember if it has to be 3 digits.. like \032 instead of \32 |
| 22:21.12 | Xinhuan | which is technically, just a " " space |
| 22:21.48 | Saint-N | the 0 is a feeder bit in some interpretters |
| 22:22.03 | Xinhuan | not sure how wow lua handles it |
| 22:22.08 | Saint-N | it does it in alt-XXX as well |
| 22:22.13 | Xinhuan | didn't memorise everything |
| 22:22.18 | Saint-N | like alt-1 != alt-001 |
| 22:22.32 | Saint-N | because it wants 3 numbers and isnt 100% sure that you didnt just screwq up |
| 22:22.57 | Kaelten | at one time |
| 22:23.02 | Ellipsis | ~seen ckknight |
| 22:23.04 | purl | ckknight <n=ckknight@rrcs-74-62-251-185.west.biz.rr.com> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 17h 16m 37s ago, saying: 'lol, no, what was that about?'. |
| 22:23.22 | Kaelten | Uptime2 days 1 hours 31 min 47 s |
| 22:23.22 | Kaelten | Started at2007-09-25 16:51:24 |
| 22:23.22 | Kaelten | absolute (since start) |
| 22:23.22 | Kaelten | Requests15 Mreq |
| 22:23.22 | Kaelten | Traffic2.08 Tbyte |
| 22:23.47 | Xinhuan | so 1 Tbyte a day |
| 22:23.53 | Ominous_ | wow |
| 22:23.58 | Saint-N | thats it? |
| 22:24.04 | Kaelten | lol, thats it? |
| 22:24.13 | Kaelten | we're talking ~ 15 million files in two days |
| 22:24.15 | Kody | weak imo |
| 22:24.18 | Xinhuan | 1 TByte is 1000 GB right? |
| 22:24.23 | Ellipsis | im in ur surverz, stealin ur terabytez |
| 22:24.24 | Kaelten | yes |
| 22:24.28 | Saint-N | you think google does that little amount of traffic? |
| 22:24.35 | *** kick/#wowace [Ellipsis!n=kaelten@adsl-76-251-95-6.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net] by Kaelten (stay out of my server!) |
| 22:24.35 | *** join/#wowace Ellipsis (n=ellipsis@cpe-76-168-204-11.socal.res.rr.com) |
| 22:24.37 | Saint-N | thats just weak! |
| 22:24.38 | Ellipsis | who's comparing wowace to google? |
| 22:24.44 | sag_ich_nicht | mhm |
| 22:24.46 | Saint-N | heh |
| 22:24.48 | sag_ich_nicht | need 52224 |
| 22:24.49 | sag_ich_nicht | honor |
| 22:24.50 | sag_ich_nicht | :( |
| 22:24.56 | Saint-N | well itsa tough call really |
| 22:24.58 | sag_ich_nicht | it will take forever |
| 22:25.01 | Saint-N | wowace helps you p[lay wow better |
| 22:25.02 | Kaelten | wowace ~= google |
| 22:25.05 | Kaelten | not at all |
| 22:25.06 | Xinhuan | do 1k a day sag |
| 22:25.09 | Saint-N | google helps you find wowace stuff and cheap gold |
| 22:25.22 | Saint-N | so its hard to say which is better for your wow experience |
| 22:25.24 | Xinhuan | i'm fairly sure that patch 2.3 and season 3 won't even be on us in 53 days needed |
| 22:25.33 | Ellipsis | I hate to say it but on my list of best websites evar, wowace is not *quite* as high as google |
| 22:25.51 | Saint-N | is it better than breasts.com ? |
| 22:26.10 | Ellipsis | I'll have to go check that one out |
| 22:26.12 | Saint-N | or badjojo.com ;) |
| 22:26.15 | sedai| | i updated item rack im getting serious errors that happen when i hover over the item slots in my character window |
| 22:26.17 | sedai| | wsghloiawt] |
| 22:26.18 | sedai| | \kgjla] |
| 22:26.31 | Xinhuan | sedai|: updated from where? |
| 22:26.48 | AnduinLothar | Anyone have any idea why shift-right-click on an item using Baggins would not call SocketContainerItem? |
| 22:26.52 | Xinhuan | the latest version is on wowi |
| 22:27.02 | Ellipsis | sedai|, do the side effects of these serious errors include random keyboard-smashing? |
| 22:27.06 | Ellipsis | because that is serious indeed |
| 22:27.29 | Xinhuan | if you didn't update from wowi, then its likely you don't have the latest version |
| 22:27.41 | hyperChipmunk | AnduinLothar: you're certain it's only happening with baggins? |
| 22:27.42 | sag_ich_nicht | AnduinLothar: bad binding code |
| 22:27.46 | hyperChipmunk | I don't have the same problem |
| 22:27.48 | sedai| | yes they do |
| 22:27.52 | sag_ich_nicht | AnduinLothar help me |
| 22:27.54 | sag_ich_nicht | i have a problem |
| 22:27.57 | sag_ich_nicht | i need 52224 honor. |
| 22:28.00 | sag_ich_nicht | D: |
| 22:28.03 | hyperChipmunk | it's possible something else in your set-up may be causing it |
| 22:28.04 | sedai| | anyway, my actual question is what, from acemods, can i replace itemrack with? |
| 22:28.05 | AnduinLothar | what binding could be blockign it? |
| 22:28.24 | sag_ich_nicht | sedai|: wardrobe2 |
| 22:28.25 | Xinhuan | the closest to itemrack would be ClosetGnome |
| 22:28.30 | sedai| | thanks you |
| 22:28.32 | sag_ich_nicht | or closetgnome |
| 22:28.51 | Stanzilla2 | sag_ich_nicht: what do you want to buy with the honor? |
| 22:28.52 | sedai| | whats the difference between CG and W2? |
| 22:28.54 | Xinhuan | but closetgnome doesn't really have a few things in itemrack |
| 22:28.57 | Ellipsis | AnduinLothar, I'm able to socket with Baggins >_> |
| 22:28.57 | Xinhuan | so up to you ;p |
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| 22:29.06 | vhaarr | sedai|: closetgnome doesn't suck |
| 22:29.09 | hyperChipmunk | Xinhuan: if it's broke, then i'm blaming you |
| 22:29.20 | Xinhuan | pfft, test your addons hyperChipmunk |
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| 22:29.24 | Xinhuan | before releasing |
| 22:29.28 | AnduinLothar | That's all fine and dandy. i'm not blaming Baggins. it could very well be another addon |
| 22:29.37 | Xinhuan | you pretty much just committed something you didn't test |
| 22:29.54 | AnduinLothar | i'm just looking for ideas on what could be breaking it |
| 22:30.03 | sag_ich_nicht | mhm |
| 22:30.09 | AnduinLothar | don't rly want to disable my 100+ addons half at a time |
| 22:30.18 | sag_ich_nicht | do you get the tooltip that says shift rightclick to socket? |
| 22:30.25 | AnduinLothar | yes |
| 22:30.33 | sedai| | i disabled itemrack and i can see my gear lol |
| 22:30.41 | sedai| | ill try CG first |
| 22:30.42 | sag_ich_nicht | [00:28] <Stanzilla2> sag_ich_nicht: what do you want to buy with the honor? <--GM breastplate + non-set belt & boots(already have the bracers) |
| 22:30.51 | Xinhuan | sedai|: did you update itemrack from wowi? |
| 22:30.53 | AnduinLothar | and ctrl-left click works |
| 22:30.56 | Xinhuan | wowinterface that is |
| 22:30.59 | AnduinLothar | shift-left click does nothing |
| 22:31.14 | AnduinLothar | well, drags |
| 22:31.15 | hyperChipmunk | Xinhuan: i did test it |
| 22:31.23 | hyperChipmunk | didn't give me any problems |
| 22:31.28 | Xinhuan | gello only updated itemrack there i think |
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| 22:31.58 | Ellipsis | AnduinLothar: do you run AltClickToAddItem or anything? |
| 22:32.19 | Ellipsis | could be a bug in something like that |
| 22:32.28 | sedai| | whats good about cloestgnome bank, is it like the option in arkinventory? |
| 22:32.44 | Xinhuan | i use altclicktoadditem, and have no issues with socketting gear today - i dont' use baggins though |
| 22:32.52 | sedai| | cg gatherer is it soemthing that would confict with cartographer? |
| 22:33.09 | sedai| | oh |
| 22:33.21 | vhaarr | cg_gatherer is useless now |
| 22:33.24 | vhaarr | should be removed from trunk |
| 22:33.47 | Xinhuan | cleanup the 900 addons on trunk imo |
| 22:33.51 | Ellipsis | what does/did it do? |
| 22:33.52 | Kaelten | cg_gatherer? |
| 22:34.02 | sedai| | closetgnome gather |
| 22:34.19 | sedai| | nm it just equips herb gear |
| 22:34.29 | rob` | http://img405.imageshack.us/img405/8797/newbopot5.jpg <-- new paladin blessing of protection graphic in 2.3 |
| 22:34.29 | sedai| | lol closetgnome ohnoes is awesome |
| 22:34.58 | Xinhuan | something a tank should NOT use ;p |
| 22:35.54 | Dataisgod | swithced to closet gnome today over outfitter |
| 22:36.01 | Dataisgod | which was giving me a slowness issue with baggins |
| 22:36.04 | rob` | how does it compare to itemrack? |
| 22:36.19 | sedai| | could i bind buttons to items with cloestgnome? |
| 22:36.30 | [DiE]Celeb | can bind sets |
| 22:36.30 | sedai| | itemrack is seriously bugged for me |
| 22:36.32 | Dataisgod | i have not used itemrack since tbc beta unfortunately |
| 22:36.37 | Dataisgod | closetgnome is working well |
| 22:36.41 | Dataisgod | similar to outfitter |
| 22:36.47 | sedai| | i want to blind a key to my sword and key to my dagger |
| 22:36.52 | rob` | sedai: grab the newest version off http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/fileinfo.php?id=4148 |
| 22:36.54 | vhaarr | make sets with them then |
| 22:36.58 | vhaarr | and bind a key to that set |
| 22:37.04 | Dataisgod | keybind sets np, and flush and retreive bank sets also |
| 22:37.12 | Dataisgod | if you want to bind a weapon |
| 22:37.13 | sedai| | cool |
| 22:37.19 | Dataisgod | can yo not just put it on a hidden bar and keybind it or? |
| 22:37.19 | Xinhuan | itemrack allows me to code in custom events though, which is pretty much why i use it over closetgnome/etc |
| 22:37.29 | vhaarr | I've never used custom events though |
| 22:37.35 | Xinhuan | since it actually allows you to code in LUA directly |
| 22:37.40 | vhaarr | which is why I made closetgnome instead of using a trainwreck like itemrack |
| 22:37.44 | Xinhuan | to do exactly what you need in itemrack's custom event |
| 22:37.46 | NivFreak | I've heard a few complaints about itemrack 2.1 behaving badly |
| 22:37.52 | NivFreak | from guldies |
| 22:37.54 | sedai| | if i could code id care lol |
| 22:38.02 | sedai| | i dont know addon code |
| 22:38.03 | Xinhuan | its just a paperdoll change/error NivFreak |
| 22:38.05 | vhaarr | sedai|: nah you wouldn't |
| 22:38.06 | NivFreak | as in a regression from previous versions |
| 22:38.10 | Dataisgod | you need to get v.1992 i believe |
| 22:38.12 | Xinhuan | Gello already fixed itemrack on WowInterface |
| 22:38.21 | NivFreak | cool |
| 22:38.22 | aestil | did BT3 get fixed so you can move actions on action bars during combat? |
| 22:38.23 | Xinhuan | and it works |
| 22:38.25 | Dataisgod | ty for the mod vhaarr! its working swimingly for me |
| 22:38.35 | vhaarr | woden: you're welcome :) |
| 22:38.49 | hyperChipmunk | vhaarr: and yet you still wig out when enchants or sockets change, and you can't figure out how to swap things out of engineering bags! |
| 22:38.52 | Xinhuan | apart from custom events, i would prob choose closetgnome over it |
| 22:39.01 | sedai| | thanks guys for your opinions/info |
| 22:39.05 | woden | that goes for everyone in hear actually. i'm just an end user coding is not my forte |
| 22:39.09 | woden | but i appreciate the work yee doi |
| 22:39.24 | sedai| | always appriciated. |
| 22:39.25 | vhaarr | hyperChipmunk: jeez |
| 22:39.28 | NivFreak | I'll have to try out itemrack/closet gnome again |
| 22:39.42 | NivFreak | outfitter keeps sucking me back |
| 22:39.45 | vhaarr | hyperChipmunk: firstly, gem/enchant changes are supposed to freak out and yell at you, since people have 2 identical items with different enchants |
| 22:39.53 | vhaarr | hyperChipmunk: second, fix it yourself slowpoke! |
| 22:39.59 | NivFreak | Will closet gnome swap in riding gear etc when you mount? |
| 22:40.08 | vhaarr | NivFreak: no |
| 22:40.11 | vhaarr | but closetgnome_mount will |
| 22:40.12 | NivFreak | damn |
| 22:40.13 | vhaarr | or mountme |
| 22:40.14 | NivFreak | haha |
| 22:40.26 | Ellipsis | vhaarr, freaking out is bad |
| 22:40.35 | vhaarr | I disagree |
| 22:40.36 | Ellipsis | printing a message and falling back to just an itemID search = good |
| 22:40.37 | NivFreak | do either allow you to disable the mount gear swapping in certain zones? |
| 22:40.38 | hyperChipmunk | vhaarr: it should fall back sensibly |
| 22:40.43 | Xinhuan | vhaarr: is there something that auto switches my gear on evocation? |
| 22:40.44 | vhaarr | hyperChipmunk: perhaps |
| 22:40.50 | sedai| | cartographer_heatmap gives me error when i log on |
| 22:40.51 | vhaarr | Xinhuan: closetgnome_switcher |
| 22:40.54 | Xinhuan | or druid innervate |
| 22:41.01 | vhaarr | Xinhuan: closetgnome_switcher |
| 22:41.02 | hyperChipmunk | i played a day of arenas without an offhand because i had enchanted it |
| 22:41.09 | vhaarr | hyperChipmunk: haha |
| 22:41.13 | Xinhuan | alright, i'll look into it |
| 22:41.30 | hyperChipmunk | and CG never equipped it because it apparently didn't exist anymore >8\ |
| 22:41.35 | Ellipsis | well it didn't |
| 22:41.40 | woden | wrt item rack and outfitter and closet gnome. is there a mod that when you hover over you slots |
| 22:41.43 | NivFreak | closetgnome_switcher is an unclaimed addon eh? |
| 22:41.47 | woden | you can see the other items for that slots? |
| 22:41.50 | AnduinLothar | looks like my socketing doesn't work with Baggins disabled either |
| 22:41.54 | woden | instead of digging thru the bag |
| 22:41.54 | Ellipsis | hyperChipmunk: it was blinded by the shiny glow? |
| 22:41.56 | NivFreak | woden: outfitter does that when you click on it |
| 22:41.56 | hyperChipmunk | yes it did; the primary item ID hadn't changed |
| 22:41.58 | ulic | woden: SwapMagic |
| 22:42.02 | Xinhuan | itemrack finds the closest match apparantly, if it doesn't find the exact item with the exact enchant/gem you want |
| 22:42.03 | hyperChipmunk | just the enchantment id |
| 22:42.12 | Ellipsis | I know, hyperChipmunk, I'm just kidding :P |
| 22:42.14 | Xinhuan | i didn't delve in the code though |
| 22:42.18 | woden | cheers guys |
| 22:42.26 | vhaarr | NivFreak: well I pretty much cleaned it up to the state it's in now |
| 22:42.31 | vhaarr | NivFreak: but it could be a lot better |
| 22:42.41 | NivFreak | it's sad that so much of the wiki was wiped out |
| 22:44.30 | Ellipsis | I totally just hit 1337 twice in a row |
| 22:44.37 | NivFreak | vhaarr: is there any documentation on closetgnome and the switcher module's features? |
| 22:44.41 | vhaarr | NivFreak: no |
| 22:44.42 | JCinDE | cancels itself out, Ellipsis |
| 22:44.45 | Ellipsis | =[ |
| 22:44.49 | Ellipsis | so 3 in a row = ? |
| 22:44.53 | JCinDE | uber |
| 22:44.55 | NivFreak | vhaarr: =( |
| 22:44.56 | Ellipsis | sweet |
| 22:45.02 | Xinhuan | ~purl 1337*3 |
| 22:45.03 | purl | 4011 |
| 22:45.17 | Xinhuan | 4011 is Toll ? |
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| 22:47.17 | NivFreak | who runs Thraebot? |
| 22:47.23 | Ominous | Thrae |
| 22:47.23 | Shadowed | Thrae I bet |
| 22:47.30 | NivFreak | haha |
| 22:47.39 | NivFreak | I fail |
| 22:47.48 | Ellipsis | ~lulz |
| 22:47.53 | Ellipsis | aww, someone shuold define that |
| 22:48.05 | Ellipsis | purl, lulz is <action> did it for da lulz |
| 22:48.06 | purl | okay, Ellipsis |
| 22:48.08 | Ellipsis | ~lulz |
| 22:48.10 | purl | ACTION did it for da lulz |
| 22:48.15 | Ellipsis | :D: |
| 22:49.20 | hyperChipmunk | oye |
| 22:49.31 | hyperChipmunk | new mail stuff in 2.3 |
| 22:49.32 | hyperChipmunk | >8\ |
| 22:49.40 | NivFreak | oh yea? |
| 22:49.41 | hyperChipmunk | that means i'll have to actually do work and stuff |
| 22:49.45 | NivFreak | haha |
| 22:49.53 | JCinDE | is there any downside to installing libraries vs just letting mods use their embedded ones? |
| 22:50.08 | Ellipsis | pooooooooor hyperChipmunk |
| 22:50.14 | Xinhuan | JCinDE: not really |
| 22:50.15 | Ellipsis | /nick overworkedChipmunk |
| 22:50.31 | Xinhuan | only downside is a bunch more folders in your AddOns\ |
| 22:50.32 | hyperChipmunk | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=879058320 |
| 22:50.38 | hyperChipmunk | second post |
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| 22:51.13 | aestil | so, ellipsis, how's your caffine level? |
| 22:51.16 | Xinhuan | don't worry hyperChipmunk, one of my addons records mail stuff as well, i'm sweating at extra work :( |
| 22:51.31 | Xinhuan | we share the pain! |
| 22:51.44 | Ellipsis | yay, more GC |
| 22:53.31 | Ellipsis | aestil: could be worse, what's up? |
| 22:53.42 | aestil | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:53.49 | aestil | i fail at copy paste maybe. |
| 22:53.53 | sedai| | i got an error from Prat |
| 22:53.54 | NivFreak | finally |
| 22:53.55 | NivFreak | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:53.57 | NivFreak | hah |
| 22:54.01 | sedai| | tablet 2 |
| 22:54.02 | NivFreak | I hate sloppy matching |
| 22:54.05 | Ellipsis | oh boy |
| 22:54.17 | vhaarr | NivFreak: We had that pre-2.0 |
| 22:54.22 | Ellipsis | that's what she said, NivFreak |
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| 22:54.47 | CIA-22 | BattleChat: |
| 22:54.47 | CIA-22 | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:54.47 | CIA-22 | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:54.47 | CIA-22 | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:54.48 | CIA-22 | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:54.52 | NivFreak | I didn't really have any problems until trying to make a demonic chains macro |
| 22:54.57 | NivFreak | and then I really started noticing it |
| 22:55.05 | sedai| | i am still getting double tooltips when hovering on gear in bag |
| 22:55.06 | Ellipsis | sigh, WTB IsSelectedSpell() now plz =[ |
| 22:55.26 | sedai| | could that be arkinventory? |
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| 22:55.31 | sedai| | or tinytip? |
| 22:55.43 | Ellipsis | probably |
| 22:55.54 | Ellipsis | hi ckknight, pls fix things k? |
| 22:56.29 | sedai| | lol |
| 22:56.32 | Ellipsis | >_> |
| 22:57.06 | NivFreak | hrmm, the conditional abbreviations might actually let me use a macro that I've been 10 characters short for |
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| 22:57.14 | aestil | is there a dogtag to color a pet name based on happienes? |
| 22:57.26 | Ellipsis | I think there's :HappyColor or something |
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| 22:57.45 | aestil | where is the big resource for dogtags? ima bookmark it |
| 22:57.58 | vhaarr | the wiki |
| 22:57.59 | Ellipsis | http://wiki.wowace.com/wiki/DogTag-1.0/Tags |
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| 22:58.32 | Ellipsis | wow, someone on my realm is recruiting people for a "vary help full" guild |
| 22:58.37 | Saint-N | dont do it aestil! |
| 22:58.38 | Ellipsis | <_< |
| 22:58.58 | CIA-22 | 03oridan * r50083 10SpellReminder/SpellReminder.lua: |
| 22:58.58 | CIA-22 | SpellReminder: |
| 22:58.58 | CIA-22 | - fixed scale problems (i think) |
| 22:59.02 | a[b]raxas | seems like they do need a lot of help |
| 22:59.07 | Saint-N | a rabid norwegian goat will come through the internet have puppies on your favorite blanket and then eat them all while you try and eat pudding! |
| 22:59.12 | Ellipsis | yeah...about that |
| 22:59.21 | Ellipsis | Saint-N, you just broke my brain =[ |
| 22:59.31 | Saint-N | sorry |
| 22:59.56 | Saint-N | if ya need a few paperclips for added support let me know |
| 23:00.01 | sedai| | actually i think it was enhtooptip |
| 23:00.09 | sedai| | or whatever its called from auctioneer |
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| 23:01.08 | NivFreak | does someone in here maintain errormonster? |
| 23:01.13 | vhaarr | I do |
| 23:01.16 | NivFreak | sweet |
| 23:01.24 | NivFreak | it needs a new mode |
| 23:01.25 | aestil | saint-N i'm confused. so ellipsis, my script is failing, is there a way to make it more careful? |
| 23:01.36 | NivFreak | that doesn't outright hide all errors, but collapses them |
| 23:01.46 | NivFreak | I like the feedback from errors, but they are just too spammy be default |
| 23:01.52 | vhaarr | you don't know what throttling is, do you |
| 23:01.56 | NivFreak | no |
| 23:01.59 | NivFreak | :) |
| 23:02.00 | NivFreak | er |
| 23:02.01 | NivFreak | well |
| 23:02.03 | NivFreak | here's the thing |
| 23:02.07 | NivFreak | I want an indicator for each error |
| 23:02.22 | Ellipsis | aestil: what do you mean failing, and what do you mean careful? :P |
| 23:02.22 | NivFreak | I was thinking maybe something like print "Ability is not ready yet" |
| 23:02.26 | NivFreak | and a . for each repeat |
| 23:02.39 | vhaarr | nonsense, I won't add it |
| 23:02.43 | NivFreak | awww |
| 23:02.47 | Ellipsis | aestil: pastey the script if you modified it |
| 23:02.53 | NivFreak | why is it nonsense? |
| 23:02.59 | vhaarr | useless |
| 23:03.14 | NivFreak | I'm a button spammer |
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| 23:03.18 | NivFreak | bad habits :) |
| 23:03.26 | vhaarr | and? |
| 23:03.49 | vhaarr | you might as well make a mod that counts how many times you spam a button |
| 23:03.57 | vhaarr | it has no place in errormonster, now move along |
| 23:04.01 | NivFreak | err |
| 23:04.09 | NivFreak | I'm just saying a condensed visual indicator |
| 23:04.11 | Ellipsis | really NivFreak, seeing the message repeat itself is just as useful as seeing "." |
| 23:04.24 | Ellipsis | probably more, because visually it makes sense that it's the same error |
| 23:04.29 | NivFreak | Ellipsis: no, because you end up with 2 or 3 errors scrolling by faster than you can even see them |
| 23:04.35 | Ellipsis | yes but they're all identical |
| 23:04.41 | Ellipsis | and . would still scroll things |
| 23:04.52 | NivFreak | I was suggesting appending it horizontally |
| 23:04.57 | vhaarr | can't be done |
| 23:04.59 | Ellipsis | ^ |
| 23:05.02 | NivFreak | orly |
| 23:05.08 | vhaarr | that's right |
| 23:05.09 | NivFreak | ok |
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| 23:05.48 | Recluse | but wait, what is the purpose in knowing how many times you pressed the button with no effect? |
| 23:05.58 | NivFreak | I don't want to know the number of times :P |
| 23:06.03 | NivFreak | I just want some compact feedback |
| 23:06.16 | NivFreak | I squash all of them currently |
| 23:06.24 | NivFreak | but once in a while I miss something important ;) |
| 23:07.13 | NivFreak | I end up squashing my low rage warnings, and my ability not ready errors |
| 23:07.25 | NivFreak | and occasionally it's unclear why an action is failing |
| 23:07.32 | NivFreak | and requires a few extra seconds to figure out what's up |
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| 23:07.49 | NivFreak | vhaarr: one other question |
| 23:08.04 | NivFreak | there was once a feature that allowed me to redirect them all to a random chat window |
| 23:08.07 | Recluse | ah, so you want to know when which error is fired visually |
| 23:08.07 | NivFreak | does it still exist |
| 23:08.12 | NivFreak | Recluse: yea |
| 23:08.13 | CIA-22 | 03bam * r50084 10MouseLook/MouseLook.toc: |
| 23:08.13 | CIA-22 | MouseLook: |
| 23:08.13 | CIA-22 | - TOC update to 20200 |
| 23:08.28 | NivFreak | or rather a specific chat window |
| 23:08.30 | NivFreak | not so random |
| 23:08.39 | xyu | hm baggins is lagging my screen when i open it at the initial open >< |
| 23:08.59 | vhaarr | NivFreak: I'll add that back some day |
| 23:09.03 | NivFreak | that was a great feature |
| 23:09.13 | NivFreak | it was a little tricky to get it where I wanted it |
| 23:09.14 | [AoC]Camci | I use Parrot and sometimes it shows a hunters pet dmg... like its my pet... |
| 23:09.16 | NivFreak | but awesome |
| 23:09.21 | [AoC]Camci | why does it do that? |
| 23:09.39 | aestil | http://ace.pastey.net/74491 |
| 23:09.56 | Recluse | Camci: don't know the answer, but i've seen a lot of people saying that, if that's any consolation XD |
| 23:10.13 | sedai| | which mod would allow me to frost shock out of ghost wolfform? |
| 23:11.09 | Vires | sedai|: A macro? /cancelaura Ghost Wolf /cast Frost Shock |
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| 23:11.30 | [AoC]Camci | heh |
| 23:11.32 | [AoC]Camci | :P |
| 23:11.55 | TNSe | you forgot /dance |
| 23:12.33 | Megalon | and /rofl if that player is a rogue in 2.3 ;s |
| 23:14.18 | Recluse | i use #showtooltip Earth Shock(Rank 1) /cancelaura Ghost Wolf /stopcasting /stopmacro [noharm] /cast Earth Shock(Rank 1) /startattack |
| 23:14.26 | Recluse | course, frost for you |
| 23:15.06 | *** join/#wowace weab (n=asdf@cpe-70-112-136-88.austin.res.rr.com) |
| 23:15.35 | Saint-N | is there any truth to that windfury proc trick swapping between dual weapons and 2h ? |
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| 23:19.45 | CIA-22 | 03funkydude * r50085 10BigWigs/TheEye/Solarian.lua: |
| 23:19.46 | CIA-22 | BigWigs: TheEye/Solarian: Proximity: |
| 23:19.46 | CIA-22 | - add proximity warnings when you have Wrath. |
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| 23:20.51 | Antiarc | http://www.wowinsider.com/2007/09/27/curse-interviews-omen-creator/ |
| 23:20.52 | Antiarc | :D |
| 23:21.05 | Industrial | o_O |
| 23:21.06 | Recluse | you guys use a macro/hotkey to set /focus or what? i find it a pain to utilize in spur of the moment pvp encounters |
| 23:21.11 | NivFreak | Saint-N: the weapon buff windfury? |
| 23:21.12 | Ellipsis | well aren't you mister popular |
| 23:21.16 | Industrial | ^ |
| 23:21.25 | Ellipsis | Recluse: you can bind a key to it |
| 23:21.40 | Keias | lol Zelda UI |
| 23:22.04 | Recluse | keybind is the best approach, though? |
| 23:22.06 | Antiarc | I keep meaning to go back and do an awesome full Zelda UI |
| 23:22.10 | Antiarc | But man |
| 23:22.16 | Antiarc | The heart beep thing got really annoying after a while |
| 23:23.11 | ennuilg | Recluse: I use clique, with a right-click on a hostile target setup. Right click on a friendly target decurses, and a hostile target sets them as focus. |
| 23:24.19 | Ellipsis | Recluse: I don't use focus all that often (just when I'm CCing) but I find a keybind does the trick nicely |
| 23:24.36 | Ellipsis | I used CC macros that set focus for me for a while, but it just got too messy |
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| 23:25.31 | Saint-N | Antiarc: if its got less thana 3 rating im not gonna bother ;) |
| 23:25.41 | Antiarc | :) |
| 23:25.46 | Antiarc | I should just make it modular |
| 23:25.50 | Antiarc | So you can install the pieces you want |
| 23:26.00 | aestil | ellipsis, looks like I figured it out. I combined all 3 panels into 1 script, and made the check in the last panel. so the script runs in 1 panel, and changes the size of all 3 panels. |
| 23:26.10 | Saint-N | NivFreak: yeah the windfury buff, i read a few weeks ago something about a swap weapon macro so you can get the damage from a 2hander even if it procs on yer dual wield 1h |
| 23:26.11 | Ellipsis | good plan |
| 23:26.30 | Saint-N | Antiarc: hahahahha yeah man Ace the interview so its more efficient |
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| 23:26.39 | Antiarc | Heh |
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| 23:26.49 | NivFreak | Saint-N: haha, crazy |
| 23:27.14 | Saint-N | NivFreak: it sounds like complete crap but part of me doesnt doubt its possible ;P |
| 23:27.45 | Saint-N | Zelda ui?!!?!? |
| 23:27.49 | Saint-N | i'm on it! |
| 23:27.52 | Saint-N | heh |
| 23:28.08 | Saint-N | right after my Snorks UI |
| 23:28.15 | sedai| | in a macro what is /stopcasting |
| 23:28.32 | Saint-N | pretty much what it sounds like |
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| 23:33.54 | nymbia | and that's why i vote to confiscate Funkeh`'s pants. |
| 23:34.16 | Funkeh` | I love you |
| 23:34.21 | nymbia | <3 |
| 23:34.22 | Funkeh` | Will you marry me? |
| 23:34.25 | nymbia | yes |
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| 23:37.23 | Yssaril|AFK | nymbia: ping |
| 23:37.35 | nymbia | Yssaril|AFK: pong |
| 23:38.00 | Yssaril|AFK | nymbia: did you update arena pointer yet? |
| 23:38.25 | nymbia | is it broken./ |
| 23:38.27 | nymbia | ? |
| 23:38.45 | Yssaril|AFK | nymbia: nope just the formula for the point calculations changed |
| 23:38.58 | nymbia | Yssaril|AFK: oh really.... is it posted anywhere? |
| 23:39.14 | Ellipsis | arghhhhhhhhhhh |
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| 23:39.26 | Towbar | hello folks, hope I am not interupting |
| 23:39.30 | Yssaril|AFK | http://wowarmory.com/arena-calculator.xml |
| 23:39.42 | Ellipsis | I sit in LFG all day, and the one minute I'm afk someone whispers me to help with one boss I desperately need >_> |
| 23:39.42 | Towbar | I was wondering if someone would be so kind as to help me with a problem I have |
| 23:39.50 | Ellipsis | ~asktoask |
| 23:39.50 | purl | This is IRC. Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question and if someone's around, they'll be glad to help. |
| 23:40.03 | nymbia | Yssaril|AFK: great, thanks |
| 23:40.13 | Yssaril|AFK | nymbia: check the wowace forums i posted a lua file that would update the formula not sure if i got everything right though |
| 23:40.13 | Towbar | i dont like ignorant people interupting so i try not to do it myself :) |
| 23:40.18 | Towbar | eithger way here goes |
| 23:40.29 | Towbar | ./1 and acecomm |
| 23:40.39 | nymbia | Yssaril|AFK: very cool, i'll take a look |
| 23:40.40 | Towbar | is there anyway to stop this becming /1 |
| 23:40.48 | Towbar | becomming* |
| 23:41.09 | Yssaril|AFK | nymbia: http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=4998.20 :) |
| 23:41.12 | Towbar | sometimes it randomly jumps to /1 so i /leave it relog and its gone |
| 23:41.19 | aestil | http://img519.imageshack.us/img519/953/wowscrnshot092707164104pp3.jpg |
| 23:41.24 | aestil | thank you ellipsis |
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| 23:42.15 | Ellipsis | <3 aestil |
| 23:42.24 | Ellipsis | that looks so sexy |
| 23:42.30 | Towbar | anyone know? |
| 23:42.46 | Ellipsis | Towbar, it is a known issue |
| 23:43.02 | Towbar | ahhh ok, prat related? |
| 23:43.07 | CIA-22 | 03funkydude * r50086 10BigWigs/BlackTemple/Illidan.lua: |
| 23:43.07 | CIA-22 | BigWigs: BlackTemple/Illidan: |
| 23:43.07 | CIA-22 | - Add 25 minute berserk timer |
| 23:43.07 | CIA-22 | - Swap enrage trigger to a yell(needs localization updating) |
| 23:43.12 | Yssaril|AFK | nymbia: also while i got yoru attention everynow and then when i make multible items with manufac it will randomly stop making items (say i wanna make 10 mana pots it might randomly stop after making 7 or so) |
| 23:43.13 | aestil | and ellipsis, look at this one. |
| 23:43.17 | Ellipsis | you can try disabling Prat's channel renumbering, that may help |
| 23:43.22 | aestil | http://img208.imageshack.us/img208/4259/wowscrnshot092707164301bz3.jpg |
| 23:43.40 | nymbia | Yssaril|AFK: huh, that's a bit weird. is this just since 2.2? |
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| 23:44.07 | aestil | if i dismiss my pet it works too. |
| 23:44.16 | aestil | i have a UI erection now. |
| 23:44.20 | Towbar | channel reordering is already disabled |
| 23:44.33 | NightHawkTheSane | nymbia: i've noticed the same issue prior to 2.2, so i don't think it's related to that. |
| 23:44.42 | nymbia | ok |
| 23:44.43 | Antiarc | http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/20995289/wid/11915773?GT1=10412 |
| 23:44.49 | Vires | You're pet's name is :D ? |
| 23:44.54 | Towbar | also, any guru here know if I can get hardware sound working again, this new engine kills my fps a bit |
| 23:44.55 | Vires | Your* |
| 23:45.09 | Vires | Oh wait |
| 23:45.10 | Vires | nm |
| 23:45.10 | NightHawkTheSane | If i had to guess, I'd say it has to do with the profession frame being open/closed. |
| 23:45.15 | aestil | antiarc WTF! |
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| 23:45.21 | Funkeh` | FtH|Daemona: There, blue says 25min |
| 23:45.28 | yssaril | nymbia: nope has been happening for a while for me its random dosnt create an error or anything and sometimes i go for days without it happening |
| 23:46.13 | Antiarc | Towbar: I don't know for sure, but try playing with the SET SoundOutputSystem "2" setting in config.wtf |
| 23:46.16 | Antiarc | Try 0 or 1 |
| 23:46.18 | aestil | ok, so now that I'm into scripting based on events fired [omg ty again ellipsis] there's got to be an event for if someone joins or leaves your group, right? |
| 23:46.24 | Towbar | btw any of you guys think the SSC trash has been completly gimped? |
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| 23:46.37 | Towbar | we cleared from morrowgrim to karathress tonight in a little over 12 mins |
| 23:46.41 | aestil | towbar, it was so easy. |
| 23:46.43 | nymbia | what's weird is that i can't think of anything that manufac is actually doing during that time.. the repeats are in the hands of the blizz code, otherwise each one would require a click |
| 23:46.53 | Towbar | chain pulled everything |
| 23:46.57 | aestil | yep. |
| 23:46.59 | vithos | Towbar: hyjal trash was, dunno about ssc |
| 23:47.03 | aestil | itis great. |
| 23:47.06 | Towbar | one shotted everything |
| 23:47.08 | aestil | so much time saved. |
| 23:47.15 | Towbar | actually made gold on the raid |
| 23:47.25 | Towbar | yea |
| 23:47.32 | Towbar | normally we do all but vashj in a night |
| 23:47.35 | aestil | bosses didn't seem to change though. |
| 23:47.36 | vhaarr | http://www.wired.com/science/space/news/2007/09/mecca_in_orbit |
| 23:47.39 | Towbar | unless we stay late, tonight was a breeze |
| 23:47.43 | aestil | just easier trash. |
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| 23:47.55 | Towbar | bosses are same yea, but MT said leo wasnt hurting as much |
| 23:48.05 | yssaril | aestil: try "PARTY_MEMBERS_CHANGED" might give you too much infor though http://www.wowwiki.com/Events/Party |
| 23:48.14 | Towbar | but he got some TK loot since lst tanking |
| 23:48.18 | aestil | MT is delusional, i heard onyxia deep breaths 'more/less' since this patch. |
| 23:48.21 | NightHawkTheSane | nymbia: not sure what manufac does to the profession frame, but I've noticed without manufac the same thing happens if you close the frame in the middle of crafting multiples. So like i said, my random guess is that something (maybe not even manufac) is closing that frame |
| 23:48.28 | Towbar | my rogue tanks ony ffs |
| 23:48.33 | Towbar | without pvp gear |
| 23:48.44 | Towbar | 4 man it for easy 42g |
| 23:48.55 | aestil | yssaril, would RAID_TARGET_UPDATE work? |
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| 23:49.06 | nymbia | NightHawkTheSane: that's probably a very good guess. |
| 23:49.12 | aestil | wow wiki says it fires when a player joins or leaves a party or raid. |
| 23:49.21 | nymbia | holy crap 50000 commits? |
| 23:49.35 | Towbar | o one other thing, is there a key modifier to bypass rock? |
| 23:49.39 | yssaril | aestil: you trying to find if people join your group right? |
| 23:49.41 | Necrathex | lol Towbar |
| 23:49.42 | NightHawkTheSane | 50086, to be sure :P |
| 23:49.45 | Towbar | IE the old shoft right click on pitbull |
| 23:49.51 | Necrathex | Towbar, Valhall AN? |
| 23:49.52 | nymbia | indeed |
| 23:49.53 | Towbar | shift* |
| 23:49.58 | Towbar | valhall yea |
| 23:50.00 | Towbar | why? |
| 23:50.02 | Towbar | :/ |
| 23:50.08 | Necrathex | same realm :p |
| 23:50.11 | Towbar | woot :) |
| 23:50.15 | Towbar | ally? |
| 23:50.19 | Necrathex | <- Semper |
| 23:50.21 | Necrathex | :p |
| 23:50.22 | Towbar | awesome |
| 23:50.26 | aestil | yes, your event is better than mine yssaril, i'll admit it :) |
| 23:50.27 | Towbar | any kael progress? |
| 23:50.45 | Necrathex | no, all our paladins decided to go on holiday this week :/ |
| 23:50.54 | Towbar | ouch |
| 23:51.00 | Ellipsis | hm |
| 23:51.06 | Ellipsis | where is the kara key frag inside arc? |
| 23:51.10 | Towbar | we tried alar pre hotfix |
| 23:51.10 | LetheKai|Away | Hey is ckknight taking requests? Like... a request to unlink the mouseover and non-mouseover transparencies of the Rock GUI itself? Because that's REALLY ANNOYING. |
| 23:51.12 | Towbar | was ROFL |
| 23:51.13 | aestil | i want this event because I want to force my eePanels to resize, or at least to CHECK to resize when people leave/join raid. |
| 23:51.18 | buu | Ellipsis: In the second big round thing. I think. |
| 23:51.23 | Towbar | then we killed solarian after 2 LOL wipes |
| 23:51.29 | Towbar | the new fight is so funny |
| 23:51.31 | Antiarc | Solarian is so freaking easy now |
| 23:51.33 | aestil | this event will also fire if they change groups, is this kind of a check likely to incur a large performance hit? |
| 23:51.35 | ckknight | LetheKai|Away: ... |
| 23:51.36 | Towbar | he was easy before |
| 23:51.39 | Antiarc | Yes |
| 23:51.41 | ckknight | LetheKai|Away: just set em to the same number |
| 23:51.42 | Antiarc | But stupidly easy now |
| 23:51.42 | Towbar | but now its funny |
| 23:51.44 | Towbar | yea |
| 23:51.46 | Antiarc | Easier than Lurler |
| 23:51.49 | ckknight | LetheKai|Away: is that so hard to do? |
| 23:51.49 | Antiarc | Lurker* |
| 23:51.51 | ag` | what's changed on solarian |
| 23:51.58 | Towbar | total rework |
| 23:51.58 | Antiarc | Wrath doesn't reduce AR, doesn't jump |
| 23:51.59 | Necrathex | what's not changed :P |
| 23:52.02 | Antiarc | Just a Geddon bomb, really |
| 23:52.02 | yssaril | aestil: your s would work too might even be simpler to filter out the raid target stuff than all the other things you will have to check eitherway if a person is still in your party or not after the even t fires |
| 23:52.03 | Towbar | dont need 2 arc tanks now |
| 23:52.08 | ag` | well, what do you have to do now |
| 23:52.16 | Ellipsis | hmm |
| 23:52.16 | Antiarc | If you get Wrath, run away from people |
| 23:52.18 | Antiarc | Collect epix |
| 23:52.19 | Towbar | get away from teh raid when you get debuff |
| 23:52.20 | yssaril | aestil: and you would need to check if the person was in your party before the event fired |
| 23:52.22 | Towbar | and that too |
| 23:52.24 | Towbar | lol |
| 23:52.33 | ag` | no adds anymore? |
| 23:52.37 | ag` | priests etc |
| 23:52.39 | Antiarc | There are still adds |
| 23:52.40 | Towbar | yea still adds |
| 23:52.43 | Antiarc | But they're not really hard to deal with |
| 23:52.44 | aestil | yssaril, it shouldn't matter, the eePanel is basically just going to be forced to run the script. |
| 23:52.44 | LetheKai|Away | ckknight: Is it just me or does moving one bar move the other one? |
| 23:52.50 | LetheKai|Away | That's what I mean by linked. |
| 23:52.51 | ag` | and still a phase 2? |
| 23:52.56 | aestil | the script will just size the panel correctly to the size of my current party. |
| 23:53.02 | Towbar | but the debuff is single target bomb explosion of aoe thrown into air die from fall dmg death |
| 23:53.10 | yssaril | aestil: k never used eepanels so idk |
| 23:53.11 | Ellipsis | just you LetheKai|Away |
| 23:53.11 | ckknight | LetheKai|Away: yes, because the mouseout is always <= the mouseover |
| 23:53.21 | ag` | so you need to be healed while in the air? |
| 23:53.23 | aestil | its just a frame that gets created that you can attach a script to. |
| 23:53.24 | ckknight | so it changes the min/max of the other to reflect that. |
| 23:53.26 | LetheKai|Away | Parently not Ellipsis. |
| 23:53.34 | ckknight | but not the value itself |
| 23:53.41 | Towbar | if you get bomb you dont get hurt |
| 23:53.45 | Antiarc | ag`: You float back down softly if you were thrown up by the debuff |
| 23:53.49 | yssaril | ckknight: anyway to create vertical bars in pitbull? |
| 23:53.49 | Antiarc | Anyone you hit with the bomb doesn't float |
| 23:53.50 | aestil | so i'm going to have the script 'refire' basically every time the party / raid changes. script is maybe like 25 lines or something? |
| 23:53.50 | Ellipsis | I'm not having problems with it LetheKai|Away |
| 23:53.50 | Towbar | but if you knock others in the air they are dead |
| 23:53.53 | Antiarc | So you just make sure you don't hit them |
| 23:53.59 | ag` | ah |
| 23:53.59 | Towbar | its easy |
| 23:54.00 | ckknight | yssaril: no |
| 23:54.16 | ag` | the one with the debuff doesn't take damage at all? |
| 23:54.18 | Towbar | after two wipes of whole raid getting 100 yard in the air screenshots :) |
| 23:54.24 | Ellipsis | ckknight: your fix for the UnitName() change didn't fix it |
| 23:54.31 | ckknight | change what? |
| 23:54.33 | CIA-22 | 03nymbia * r50087 10ArenaPointer/ArenaPointer.lua: ArenaPointer: Modified point values for patch 2.2. |
| 23:54.39 | ckknight | err, fix what? |
| 23:54.41 | Towbar | woot must update :) |
| 23:54.46 | yssaril | nymbia: thanks :) |
| 23:54.59 | nymbia | :) |
| 23:55.06 | Ellipsis | you said you fixed DogTag so it wasn't querying talents with an extra "-" |
| 23:55.11 | Ellipsis | it's still doing it >_> |
| 23:55.26 | ag` | anyway nn |
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| 23:55.58 | hyperChipmunk | i just took 102k dmg in one arena battle |
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| 23:56.01 | hyperChipmunk | muaha |
| 23:56.10 | JoshBorke | lol |
| 23:56.12 | Towbar | lol |
| 23:56.21 | LetheKai|Away | ckknight: What's the difference between Aura and AltAura for Pitbull, if you don't mind me asking? |
| 23:56.26 | Towbar | done that, but 13k and 380 resi helps :) |
| 23:56.33 | ckknight | LetheKai|Away: AltAura's more efficient |
| 23:56.39 | hyperChipmunk | Towbar: what class? |
| 23:56.42 | Towbar | rogue |
| 23:56.47 | Diao | altaura pops up with a lot of errors |
| 23:56.49 | Diao | when i use it though |
| 23:56.52 | ckknight | Ellipsis: I don't see how... |
| 23:56.58 | Towbar | 4/5 merc, t5 shoulders season one swords and all vet gear |
| 23:56.59 | CIA-22 | 03bashui * r50089 10CatPoints/CatPoints.toc: CatPoints initial check in |
| 23:57.01 | CIA-22 | 03bashui * r50088 10CatPoints/ (. CatPoints.lua): CatPoints initial check in |
| 23:57.10 | Towbar | in pvp gear |
| 23:57.14 | LetheKai|Away | Hmm, thanks ck. |
| 23:57.21 | CIA-22 | 03bashui * r50090 10CatPoints/embeds.xml: CatPoints initial check in |
| 23:57.57 | Towbar | o yea, back to previous question, is there a away to do the old shift right click on pitbull to avoid rock? |
| 23:58.23 | QuantumDelta | what's actually wrong with rock btw? |
| 23:58.26 | CIA-22 | 03nymbia * r50091 10GloryLib/Glory-2.0/Glory-2.0.lua: |
| 23:58.26 | CIA-22 | .Glory-2.0: |
| 23:58.26 | CIA-22 | - Modified arena points formula for patch 2.2. |
| 23:58.26 | CIA-22 | - Drycoded; if it breaks, blame Funkeh` |
| 23:58.27 | Towbar | i like it |
| 23:58.38 | QuantumDelta | me too ;s |
| 23:58.41 | QuantumDelta | found it fine |
| 23:58.54 | Towbar | but sometimes I think when changing something in pitbull I would rather have the old menu thats all |
| 23:58.57 | Funkeh` | nymbia: :< |
| 23:59.01 | LetheKai|Away | I liked having the Pitbull icon on my FuBar so I could open up the config mode quickly, but I haven't checked yet to see if there's a way to get it back on FuBar... |
| 23:59.02 | nymbia | <3 |
| 23:59.03 | QuantumDelta | ah :P |
| 23:59.04 | Ellipsis | ckknight: I don't know, but every time I join a group and mouseover the party frames I get "No Player named "Soandso-"" |
| 23:59.13 | Towbar | i just think a keyboard modifier to avoid it would be nice |
| 23:59.45 | Towbar | o and BTW, if there are any coders here, AWESOME job on 2.2 release updates |
| 23:59.47 | Stanzilla2 | Ellipsis: do you use WIM? |
| 23:59.49 | nymbia | Ellipsis: in a battleground? |
| 23:59.52 | Towbar | had 0 problems with ace addons |
| 23:59.57 | Stanzilla2 | I got that, too |
| 23:59.59 | QuantumDelta | HMMMM |
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