| 00:00.04 | Mudkips | I do mine by % |
| 00:00.06 | Nandini | pixel-perfect is tricky since the screen units are 768 units high no matter what your resolution |
| 00:00.12 | Ellipsis | how the heck do you break MoneyFu? |
| 00:00.12 | Nandini | it makes horizontal edges hard to line up |
| 00:00.12 | Wobwork | Due to originally using AceAddon etc etc? |
| 00:00.18 | Wobwork | http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c111/cam1745/MoneyFu.png |
| 00:00.20 | Wobwork | apparantly |
| 00:00.28 | Ellipsis | oh, you break libs |
| 00:00.29 | Mudkips | pixel-perfects sometimes makes my 4px borders dissapear |
| 00:00.30 | Ellipsis | that doesn't count |
| 00:00.31 | NightHawkTheSane | Nandini: yeah, that drives me fucking batty. |
| 00:00.34 | Wobwork | Sure it does =P |
| 00:00.38 | Ellipsis | no it doesn't |
| 00:00.41 | Ellipsis | I wouldn't get that error |
| 00:00.42 | Wobwork | Why not? |
| 00:00.43 | Ellipsis | =]\ |
| 00:00.47 | Ellipsis | -\ |
| 00:00.50 | Wobwork | "Man, I would expect the WowAceUpdater to do that for me when I update all the installed addons. I don't know anything about Libraries, and the page on WowAceWiki isn't about downloads, it's about how to create a Library." |
| 00:00.55 | Mecdemort | ckknight: the rock fubar plugin still wont save it's settings |
| 00:01.04 | ckknight | it does for me |
| 00:01.05 | ckknight | bah |
| 00:01.07 | Ellipsis | me too |
| 00:01.11 | aestil | Nandini: yes. i'm pretty much pixel perfect, but yeah, it does get frustrating. |
| 00:01.14 | Ellipsis | guess it hates you Mecdemort |
| 00:01.18 | Mecdemort | ya |
| 00:01.18 | ckknight | Mecdemort: sure you're on the latest version? |
| 00:01.19 | aestil | some borders are not identical, but they are mostly identical. |
| 00:01.27 | Mecdemort | ya, i just updated maybe 5 min ago |
| 00:02.01 | Mudkips | beats me how caithlyn gets his/her panels look so pixel-purrfect |
| 00:02.16 | Ellipsis | hax |
| 00:02.30 | Mecdemort | but every time i reload my UI the rock icon is back on the minimap after hiding the plugin |
| 00:02.34 | Ellipsis | or lots of little gnomes with tape measures |
| 00:03.25 | Mudkips | undead so I'll guess hacks |
| 00:03.34 | Mudkips | gnomes r 4 punting |
| 00:04.14 | Ellipsis | [Sayge's Fortune #17] - "Never punt a gnome without due cause." |
| 00:04.24 | CIA-12 | 03ckknight * r50843 10LibDogTag-2.0/LibDogTag-2.0.lua: |
| 00:04.24 | CIA-12 | LibDogTag-2.0 - ROCK-95 |
| 00:04.24 | CIA-12 | - add tag [AddonVersion(Name)] |
| 00:04.42 | Mudkips | Funkeh`, 17mb ?? what does your /Addon look like? |
| 00:04.50 | aestil | which one is caithlyn? |
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| 00:04.59 | Mudkips | uhh |
| 00:05.01 | Funkeh` | Mudkips: Thats out of raid though |
| 00:05.01 | Mudkips | sec |
| 00:05.14 | aestil | i'm easily at 40MB :( |
| 00:05.16 | Mudkips | what is yours at raid? |
| 00:05.23 | Mudkips | im around 29mb at first load |
| 00:05.26 | aestil | i have nothing Ii can get rid of, except like... ark inventory. |
| 00:05.30 | Funkeh` | I join raid at 21mb |
| 00:05.32 | Mudkips | around 34-35 on raid |
| 00:05.34 | aestil | maybe talented. |
| 00:05.39 | Funkeh` | I grows to around 30mb with assessment |
| 00:05.42 | Funkeh` | which is normal |
| 00:05.43 | aestil | i guess youd on't really need cartographer. |
| 00:05.45 | hyperChipmunk | any reason the 'Side' option is disabled if you don't have a target? |
| 00:05.52 | Mudkips | SS plz Funkeh` |
| 00:05.57 | Funkeh` | of? |
| 00:06.05 | Mudkips | your /Addon directory |
| 00:06.10 | Ellipsis | hyperChipmunk: lots of stuff is disabled if you're not in config mode |
| 00:06.14 | Ellipsis | since the frames aren't created |
| 00:06.37 | hyperChipmunk | that shouldn't affect setting your preference |
| 00:06.39 | Mudkips | I could get rid of cartographer too |
| 00:06.49 | hyperChipmunk | for when it is created |
| 00:06.49 | Mudkips | but I hate having my map eat my whole screen ;-; |
| 00:07.23 | NightHawkTheSane | Mudkips: if the not-full-screen bit is all you want, there's probably more specialized addons that do just that |
| 00:07.39 | NightHawkTheSane | (i think tekkub has one on his googlecode svn repo, but i might be mistaken) |
| 00:07.44 | Ellipsis | hyperChipmunk: *shrug* always been that way |
| 00:08.28 | Mudkips | I like stalking my guild members though ( at least the few who use cartographer) |
| 00:08.34 | Mudkips | guild positions is win |
| 00:08.57 | aestil | most of my guild has LibRockComm now. i love [TalentSpec] although I'm not sure why. |
| 00:09.10 | durcyn | voyeurism |
| 00:09.13 | Ellipsis | oh my god |
| 00:09.18 | NivFreak | So I'll ask a stupid question |
| 00:09.22 | aestil | WTF ckknight WTF |
| 00:09.24 | NivFreak | What "is" rock |
| 00:09.25 | NivFreak | :) |
| 00:09.25 | Ellipsis | who let that "Lens" guy on the forums? |
| 00:09.26 | Mudkips | they loved me long time when I made em use it for the mining / herbing locations near the start of TBC |
| 00:09.46 | ckknight | yes, aestil? |
| 00:09.49 | ckknight | ~rock |
| 00:09.50 | purl | methinks rock is an addon framework for World of Warcraft written by ckknight. More information is available at http://wowace.com/wiki/Rock. It is also an object best not thrown in glass houses. what we're all about, it's what we live for, c'mon and shout it out |
| 00:09.52 | ckknight | NivFreak: ^--- |
| 00:09.55 | ckknight | Ellipsis: link |
| 00:10.01 | aestil | options to disable talent and addon version requests!!!?!?!!! |
| 00:10.08 | ckknight | yea, people were bitchy. |
| 00:10.14 | aestil | NOOOOOOOO!O!O!!!!!!! |
| 00:10.15 | ckknight | namely [Ammo] |
| 00:10.18 | NivFreak | that told me nothing I didn't know :) |
| 00:10.21 | aestil | NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!! |
| 00:10.27 | NivFreak | I'll read the wiki though |
| 00:10.27 | ckknight | NivFreak: so what do you want to know? |
| 00:10.32 | ckknight | aestil: yea, I disagree with it as well |
| 00:10.34 | aestil | i think though, not enough people will not the option is availble. i'll be ok. |
| 00:10.47 | NivFreak | ah |
| 00:10.49 | aestil | s/not/now |
| 00:10.50 | ckknight | aestil: so you know, if you disable requests, you can't send any as well |
| 00:10.53 | NivFreak | it's a nex-gen-ace2-ish framework |
| 00:10.59 | NivFreak | I see |
| 00:11.00 | ckknight | NivFreak: yep |
| 00:11.02 | aestil | yeah, figured. |
| 00:11.03 | aestil | oh well. |
| 00:11.04 | Ellipsis | ckknight: he made 4 one-liner threads in Addon Ideas: http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?board=8.0 |
| 00:11.18 | NivFreak | any history one why it's not ace3? :) |
| 00:11.27 | NivFreak | wait |
| 00:11.31 | NivFreak | don't answer |
| 00:11.35 | NivFreak | let me read :) |
| 00:11.56 | haarm | <ckknight> I've been a bad boy <-- yea we discussed it for hours this afternoon ;) |
| 00:11.59 | aestil | skillet is failign for me. |
| 00:12.03 | Industrial | Ellipsis: what lens guy |
| 00:12.46 | Ellipsis | Industrial: check the Addon Ideas forum or click my link4lazyppl |
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| 00:12.51 | ckknight | Ellipsis: they took away my forum rights, so I can't delete em |
| 00:13.02 | Ellipsis | gg |
| 00:13.05 | Ellipsis | ping Funkeh`? |
| 00:13.50 | Mudkips | think he poofed |
| 00:14.15 | aestil | i'm guessing manufact and skillet don't play nice? |
| 00:14.30 | Ellipsis | doesn't manufac prevent the normal window from opening? |
| 00:14.38 | Ellipsis | and skillet modify the normal window? |
| 00:14.41 | Funkeh` | Ellipsis: sup |
| 00:15.05 | Ellipsis | Funkeh` |
| 00:15.16 | Ellipsis | http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?board=8.0 plz maek Lens diaf |
| 00:15.44 | Ellipsis | quick, before Indy gets to all of the threads! |
| 00:16.21 | Ackis | lol |
| 00:16.45 | CIA-12 | 03ag 07andreasg * r50844 10ag_UnitFrames/ag_UnitFrames/ (ag_GroupClass.lua ag_UnitClass.lua): ag_UnitFrames: dev branch: :UpdateAll for units is not spammed as much when entering BGs, when raid/party members are moved around etc |
| 00:16.54 | aestil | skillet appears to be crafting sex. |
| 00:17.15 | NightHawkTheSane | what doe skillet do? |
| 00:17.16 | Ellipsis | really? |
| 00:17.19 | Industrial | Ellipsis: I win |
| 00:17.20 | Ellipsis | I want that profession |
| 00:17.21 | NightHawkTheSane | unless you mean crafting sex LITERALLY |
| 00:17.24 | Ellipsis | Industrial: fail't |
| 00:17.26 | NightHawkTheSane | in that case.. sign me up. |
| 00:17.35 | Industrial | :p |
| 00:17.49 | Funkeh` | Ellipsis: done |
| 00:17.52 | Ellipsis | <3 Funkeh` |
| 00:17.56 | Industrial | thanks Funkeh` |
| 00:18.07 | Ellipsis | Industrial: you only hit three before they got nerfed |
| 00:18.11 | Ellipsis | so you lose |
| 00:18.43 | haarm | Industrial, about your reply to that itemcache topic, answer is no you can't... because you need way more info than just the itemid/name/bunch of stats |
| 00:18.49 | Industrial | whatever you want Ellipsis :o |
| 00:19.04 | Industrial | haarm: k |
| 00:19.11 | aestil | Ellipsis: its easy to have the proffesion 'sex' you should ask around for a good 'case worker' and NightHawkTheSane, skillet is very nice. i would like to thank the maker of this mod. |
| 00:19.37 | NightHawkTheSane | aestil: "is very nice" does, in no way, answer my question of "what does it do" |
| 00:20.41 | Ellipsis | but it makes his lines longer |
| 00:20.44 | Ellipsis | and that's all that matters |
| 00:23.58 | aestil | NightHawkTheSane: you're right. its ATSW but seemingly better designed and implimented. I can't tell you more than that yet> |
| 00:24.29 | aestil | Funkeh`: i'm impressed, when I disable ALL of my shit that I don't nee dfor raid [except for eepanels, my UI has to look good] i can only get down to 28.5 MB. |
| 00:24.40 | NightHawkTheSane | I have no idea what ATSW is, or does. |
| 00:25.00 | Funkeh` | Aes :) |
| 00:25.06 | Funkeh` | aestil: * |
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| 00:26.28 | Ellipsis | aestil, you fail |
| 00:27.14 | Ackis | does anyone else get the urge to go around chanting "brewfest! brewfest!" over and over? |
| 00:27.22 | Ellipsis | no, just you |
| 00:27.32 | haarm | ckknight, btw i've been away quite a long time, did anyone talk to you about how we hate the talentPinger integrated into the core of RockComm? ;x ... I did scroll up but couldn't see anything (when I asked earlier why you thought it should be in the core lib.. they said... ask ckknight.. so heres me asking ;)) |
| 00:27.32 | Ackis | well i'm weird |
| 00:27.48 | ckknight | haarm: I added an option to disable it |
| 00:27.55 | haarm | ah ok |
| 00:28.02 | ckknight | it's very visible and available |
| 00:28.08 | haarm | guess thats good enough for now |
| 00:28.08 | Trell_ | ah, ackis |
| 00:28.09 | haarm | :) |
| 00:28.11 | Trell_ | just the person. |
| 00:28.12 | aestil | Ellipsis: why did i fail this time? |
| 00:28.15 | Ellipsis | ckknight: did you fix the Jostle issue I reported earlier? |
| 00:28.20 | Ellipsis | aestil: 28.5 fails :P |
| 00:28.24 | ckknight | sure didn't, Ellipsis |
| 00:28.30 | Ellipsis | awesome |
| 00:28.37 | Ellipsis | so I should redownload the lib before logging in? |
| 00:28.39 | Ellipsis | >_> |
| 00:28.40 | Trell_ | your recipe list is awesome; I guess the only problem with the gui version now is coloring and the fact that they don't resize to fit the window? |
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| 00:29.10 | Ackis | the gui is still sucky basically |
| 00:29.29 | Trell_ | well...it works, *if* you ignore the fact that it doesn't fit to the window |
| 00:29.49 | Ackis | yah there's a lot of things wrong with it... first mod, first time with frames and all that stuff so I'm slowly learning as I go along |
| 00:30.13 | Trell_ | i'll wait with baited breath for the next update |
| 00:30.47 | Ackis | i'm trying to add some functionality to the gui with each update, but dealing with frames makes me want to shoot myself |
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| 00:31.10 | Ackis | brb, dark iron dwarf invasion |
| 00:31.48 | Ellipsis | oh my god |
| 00:31.54 | Ellipsis | confused user quote of the day |
| 00:31.56 | Ellipsis | "Dont know if this has something to do with the author of FuBar working on the new Rock Addon for Ace2." |
| 00:32.09 | Ellipsis | *headdesk* |
| 00:32.19 | haarm | :) |
| 00:32.22 | ckknight | link? |
| 00:32.35 | Ellipsis | http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=9008.msg146161#msg146161 |
| 00:33.29 | ckknight | well, at least I renamed Rock Config |
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| 00:33.40 | ckknight | hopefully this will make people care less |
| 00:33.44 | Ellipsis | it's too late |
| 00:33.47 | Ellipsis | you'll never recover |
| 00:33.48 | ckknight | yea, I know |
| 00:33.57 | ckknight | at least I have you by my side |
| 00:33.59 | Ellipsis | anon does not forgive |
| 00:34.01 | ckknight | you and your bewbs |
| 00:34.03 | Ellipsis | of course |
| 00:34.11 | Kemayo | (slash eyeroll) |
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| 00:34.39 | haarm | but you know what sucks... |
| 00:34.49 | NightHawkTheSane | your mom? |
| 00:35.10 | haarm | the "split" of people who are gonna stick with ace2, and the people who are gonna move to rock.. and having to use 2 libraries that do the same thing |
| 00:35.41 | kebinusan | 2 is better than 50 |
| 00:36.11 | Kemayo | I'm wondering whether the ace2 stickers will move to ace3 when it comes out, or whether we'll get more fragmentation. |
| 00:36.12 | kebinusan | but mostly important things will get lib stub'd imo |
| 00:36.55 | Ellipsis | I doubt anyone's going to hang on to Ace2 over Ace3 unless something major doesn't get ported |
| 00:37.06 | ckknight | *shrug* |
| 00:37.12 | Ellipsis | I mean, some people are stubborn, but it's got the same name and everything! |
| 00:37.27 | ckknight | Ace3 has a pretty different API, so the porting process itself is gonna be tough |
| 00:37.33 | Ackis | 143 tickets w00t |
| 00:37.34 | ckknight | i.e. time-intensive |
| 00:37.46 | ckknight | (not to say Rock's isn't different or anything) |
| 00:38.18 | ckknight | Ellipsis: v-- I did it all for you |
| 00:38.20 | CIA-12 | 03ckknight * r50845 10FuBar/FuBar.lua: FuBar - fix issue where Jostle was accessed inappropriately |
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| 00:39.01 | Ellipsis | awww |
| 00:39.08 | Ellipsis | you're so awesome, you know that? |
| 00:39.12 | Ellipsis | and it's :38! |
| 00:39.12 | Xinhuan | 2 tickets |
| 00:39.20 | Xinhuan | Ackis, how do you even get that many? |
| 00:39.32 | CIA-12 | 03nargiddley 07Alpha * r50846 10Ace3/tests/AceGUITest/test.lua: |
| 00:39.32 | CIA-12 | Ace3 - AceGUI: |
| 00:39.32 | CIA-12 | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:39.32 | CIA-12 | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:39.32 | CIA-12 | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:39.43 | Ackis | did the dailies and also idling between dwarf attacks |
| 00:39.45 | Xinhuan | there's about 130 ppl at brewfest on my server in the zone alone and its lagging like crazy with 10 of them spamming /wave |
| 00:39.57 | Ackis | guy in our guild is at 231 |
| 00:40.02 | Xinhuan | i.ea miniature version of the AQ40 opening event |
| 00:40.05 | ckknight | Ellipsis: lol |
| 00:40.10 | Ackis | yah very laggy |
| 00:40.25 | CIA-12 | 03nargiddley 07Alpha * r50847 10Ace3/AceGUI-3.0/AceGUI-3.0.lua: |
| 00:40.25 | CIA-12 | Ace3 - AceGUI: |
| 00:40.25 | CIA-12 | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:40.25 | CIA-12 | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:41.24 | haarm | reading the differences in philosophy page on the wiki... gotta love this bit.. "Ace3 thinks it should be authors' and updaters' responsibility to make sure the libraries loaded correctly when disembedded", don't even want to imagine the idiot posts on the ace3 forums :P |
| 00:41.53 | NightHawkTheSane | there's always idiot posts. |
| 00:41.56 | NightHawkTheSane | because people are all idiots. |
| 00:42.11 | Mudkips | how nice of you |
| 00:42.45 | kadrahil | heh about to pug void reaver |
| 00:42.56 | kadrahil | this could go really well, or really bad... |
| 00:43.14 | haarm | didn't go to TK yet this week... guessing they didnt put the door in after al'ar then? |
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| 00:43.31 | Xinhuan | dunno |
| 00:43.41 | Xinhuan | alar is easy anyway |
| 00:43.43 | Mudkips | they put a door on al'ar ? |
| 00:43.44 | Mudkips | hahaha |
| 00:44.07 | haarm | nah mudkips, there was a rumour of doors blocking the path to VR / solarian, until you killed al'ar |
| 00:44.22 | Mudkips | I remember being sent into the hallway after being blown away by the adds |
| 00:44.29 | Mudkips | oh that one |
| 00:44.34 | Mudkips | meh |
| 00:44.50 | kadrahil | i've never been in the eye before |
| 00:44.52 | kadrahil | :( |
| 00:45.00 | haarm | so kadrahil, better check before you go mate, or you could be doing pug al'ar |
| 00:45.02 | Ellipsis | oh |
| 00:45.07 | kadrahil | lol |
| 00:45.10 | Ellipsis | wow, I misread that line |
| 00:45.18 | Ellipsis | added a word that did not belong =[ |
| 00:45.19 | CIA-12 | 03ackis * r50848 10AckisRecipeList/AckisRecipeList.lua: |
| 00:45.19 | CIA-12 | AckisRecipeList: |
| 00:45.19 | CIA-12 | - Added anchoring for GUI for crafting |
| 00:45.19 | CIA-12 | - Added frame clean up so you can use the gui more than once per session |
| 00:45.19 | CIA-12 | - Noticed moving the frame causes problems and when you use the frame again after a session |
| 00:45.20 | CIA-12 | - Added some nil checking, should fix some bugs/crashes |
| 00:45.20 | kadrahil | haarm: i know it's VR >:) |
| 00:45.22 | CIA-12 | - Added missing recipe sorting options (doesn't actually sort) |
| 00:45.33 | haarm | alright :) |
| 00:46.03 | haarm | i gotta go grind primals... i got one of those pink lollipops that drops like candy in hyjal ;x |
| 00:46.18 | haarm | needs a soulfrost slapped on it |
| 00:46.19 | Ellipsis | pink lollipops? o.O |
| 00:46.27 | haarm | yes! pink lollipop! |
| 00:46.32 | Ellipsis | I like candy |
| 00:46.47 | haarm | you get to go to mount hyjal? :D |
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| 00:46.55 | haarm | its candy mountain! |
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| 00:47.10 | Ellipsis | chaaaaaaarlie |
| 00:47.14 | haarm | :p |
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| 00:47.34 | haarm | anyway, this ---> http://www.wowhead.com/images/screenshots/resized/56800.jpg |
| 00:47.42 | Ellipsis | but yeah, I'm raiding Hyjal. in my dreams, that is. |
| 00:47.45 | futurekill | I think there's a problem with the telltarget module in Prat...it seems to be inserting a - at the end of the names... |
| 00:48.01 | Ellipsis | ahahaha |
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| 00:48.16 | CIA-12 | NiHao: |
| 00:48.16 | CIA-12 | - Cleaned up slash command help a bit. |
| 00:48.24 | haarm | we had 3 of those drop before the 2nd boss |
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| 00:52.20 | Mudkips | nihao.lua? |
| 00:52.21 | Mudkips | haha |
| 00:53.13 | Mudkips | farming is srs business |
| 00:54.50 | CIA-12 | 03ckknight * r50850 10LibRockConfig-1.0/LibRockConfig-1.0.lua: LibRockConfig-1.0 - make the name show up as "Addon Preferences" in FuBar's options. |
| 00:56.02 | CIA-12 | 03sayclub * r50851 10BigWigs/BlackTemple/Council.lua: |
| 00:56.02 | CIA-12 | .BlackTemple : |
| 00:56.02 | CIA-12 | - Updated localization koKR |
| 01:04.46 | Ackis | is there a search thing for pil? |
| 01:05.29 | Ellipsis | www.google.com |
| 01:05.37 | CIA-12 | 03xinhuan * r50852 10StatLogicLib/StatLogic-1.0/StatLogic-1.0.lua: StatLogicLib: Update haste rating change in patch 2.2 |
| 01:05.40 | Ackis | lol |
| 01:05.50 | Ellipsis | site:lua.org your search terms here |
| 01:06.20 | CIA-12 | 03funkydude * r50853 10BasicChatMods/ (8 files): BasicChatMods: tweaks |
| 01:06.50 | Ackis | thanks, worked like a charm |
| 01:06.53 | Xinhuan | there, no more ratingbuster complaints about haste rating please |
| 01:08.05 | CIA-12 | 03ckknight * r50854 10LibRock-1.0/LibRock-1.0.lua: LibRock-1.0 - add in a simple sanity check system. |
| 01:09.13 | Ackis | nerf sanity checks, makes things less fun |
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| 01:10.41 | Ackis | [R] <70:Akrios>: akama, more like asemicolon |
| 01:10.43 | Ackis | :( |
| 01:10.53 | Ellipsis | ....what |
| 01:11.18 | Ackis | he was making a funny |
| 01:11.35 | Ellipsis | but how is it funny |
| 01:11.43 | Ackis | akama = a comma |
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| 01:11.49 | Ellipsis | yes but |
| 01:11.52 | Ellipsis | how is it *funny* |
| 01:12.11 | NimbleRabit | Every time I put an item to the Auction tab my KC_Items autofill puts in the bid and the buyout, but then the buyout goes back to zero right away |
| 01:12.35 | NimbleRabit | anybody know how to fix that? |
| 01:16.12 | CIA-12 | 03fin * r50855 10SpellBinder/SpellBinder.lua: |
| 01:16.12 | CIA-12 | SpellBinder: |
| 01:16.12 | CIA-12 | - committed fix suggested by pudds in the SpellBinder forum thread (seems to |
| 01:16.12 | CIA-12 | work with myBindings2; hope it works with SpellBinder as reported - also that |
| 01:16.12 | CIA-12 | it's OK for me to commit this fix (people have been complaining for a while)) |
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| 01:18.23 | aestil | i can't get it lower than 28.5 ellipsis not without shutting off important shit. |
| 01:18.38 | aestil | brb restart puter |
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| 01:30.11 | genetik- | did threat-1.0 have a threat reset added to magtheridon on cave-in? or was that a bug? |
| 01:31.14 | Bruners | is there a threat reset on cave-ins ? |
| 01:31.46 | Shirik | no |
| 01:31.51 | Shirik | oh mag |
| 01:31.58 | Shirik | bleh |
| 01:32.02 | Shirik | thinking too much of gruul |
| 01:32.23 | Shirik | hmmm...... now that I think about it, I do remember my tank lead saying something about a reset during a critical point |
| 01:32.28 | Shirik | I heal so I wasn't listening, sorry >< |
| 01:32.57 | genetik- | no threat reset that i've ever seen |
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| 01:33.24 | Antiarc | There's no threat reset on cave ins, either in the encounter or scripted in |
| 01:33.41 | Antiarc | If threat cleared then, it's likely someone did a manual clear |
| 01:34.43 | genetik- | yeah, it's possible.. just was weird timing for someone to do it by accident |
| 01:35.07 | genetik- | it doesn't announce who resets it manually, does it? |
| 01:35.37 | Antiarc | Not in the chat frame, no |
| 01:35.44 | Antiarc | Though perhaps it should. |
| 01:35.48 | Antiarc | That's a rare occurrange |
| 01:35.56 | Antiarc | occurrance, too |
| 01:35.59 | genetik- | yeah, since we have scripted events |
| 01:36.21 | Antiarc | Did you do a DPS halt before the cave-in? |
| 01:36.46 | genetik- | yep |
| 01:36.51 | Antiarc | Aha! |
| 01:37.28 | Antiarc | I'll bet you that you have someone in the raid running DoTimer. It saturated their comm traffic, and wouldn't let Threat data through. Threat finally sent its data - including the channeler deaths clear - at this point since DoTimer traffic died down. |
| 01:37.39 | Antiarc | Have anyone in your raid running DoTimer type /comm and turn off its comms |
| 01:37.50 | erb | whats an addon i can use to place the raid icons on my screen so i can click them to aquire the target |
| 01:37.51 | Antiarc | It's the spammiest addon ever, and pushes addon traffic way past safe limits |
| 01:37.52 | genetik- | i'll ask |
| 01:38.11 | Antiarc | You can also install FuBar_AddonSpamFu to see who is sending extreme amounts of net traffic |
| 01:39.14 | genetik- | it would have had to be someone with assistant who had dotimer, right? |
| 01:40.13 | Antiarc | No, anyone can execute a scripted threat clear, since depending on range, some people may not see the relevant events |
| 01:40.21 | Antiarc | Only assistants can execute a manual threat clear though. |
| 01:40.31 | genetik- | ah, ok |
| 01:40.46 | erb | ever since 2.2 when i mouse over an item in my bag or wherever the tool tip bounces all around crazy |
| 01:40.49 | erb | anyone know what that might be? |
| 01:41.01 | Xinhuan | Antiarc, you should announce Threat clears made by other players/or boss modules in the chatframe |
| 01:41.03 | erb | i've updated my addons a few times and disabled shit like cowtip, itemprice tool tip but nothing |
| 01:41.06 | Xinhuan | at least, i believe you should |
| 01:41.10 | Xinhuan | so the user knows what is going on |
| 01:41.14 | Antiarc | I don't know about boss modules, but other players, I suspect so |
| 01:41.21 | Antiarc | In the chat frame from modules would be super spammy |
| 01:41.24 | Antiarc | Imagine Leotheras. |
| 01:41.36 | Xinhuan | not exactly, it would only spam 1 message per phase change |
| 01:41.43 | Antiarc | Which is like every 15-20 sec |
| 01:41.48 | Antiarc | Plus form changes |
| 01:41.54 | Xinhuan | alright, maybe not boss modules then |
| 01:42.03 | Xinhuan | but i do think if a player sent a threat-clear, it should be printed |
| 01:42.09 | Antiarc | I'm starting to think so too |
| 01:42.09 | kadrahil | ok |
| 01:42.10 | CIA-12 | 03sylvanaar * r50856 10Prat/Prat_Modules/modules/TellTarget.lua: Prat: yet another realm name fix |
| 01:42.15 | kadrahil | 2 wipes on the first pull of TK trash |
| 01:42.21 | kadrahil | this is going to be a long night |
| 01:42.31 | Antiarc | The first pull is always the hardest in there |
| 01:42.33 | Antiarc | No room to fear |
| 01:42.39 | Antiarc | Tight quarters so you get whirlwinded a lot |
| 01:42.50 | Xinhuan | easy solution: bring 4 mages to sheep 4, tank 2 |
| 01:43.06 | Xinhuan | not so easy solution: bring 3 mages to sheep 3, and hunter trap 1, tank 2 |
| 01:43.12 | Xinhuan | you get the idea |
| 01:43.14 | Thelyna | tank 3 sheep 3 |
| 01:43.18 | Thelyna | how we do it |
| 01:43.30 | Xinhuan | tanking 3 is alright with 3 tanks, its just gayer because the blood knight can cleanse |
| 01:43.31 | Thelyna | mostly because competent raiding hunters are a myth |
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| 01:43.59 | Wobwork | Thelyna: =( |
| 01:45.07 | NivFreak | Thelyna: hey! I've seen one! |
| 01:45.14 | NivFreak | once |
| 01:45.42 | Thelyna | Xinhuan: we just tell our mages to spam sheep |
| 01:46.04 | Xinhuan | indeed |
| 01:46.11 | Xinhuan | i even have a macro for this |
| 01:46.23 | NivFreak | are all of the TK pulls 6ish? |
| 01:46.30 | NivFreak | (I've not been) |
| 01:46.46 | Xinhuan | /run CreateFrame("Frame", "myframe"); myframe:RegisterEvent("CHAT_MSG_SPELL_BREAK_AURA"); myframe:SetScript("OnEvent", function(self, event, ...) local arg1, arg2 = ...; if (strfind(arg1, "Polymorph")) then SendChatMessage(arg1, "raid") end end); |
| 01:47.10 | Xinhuan | i.e a macro that causes all sheep breaking to be spammed into /raid |
| 01:47.29 | Antiarc | NivFreak: Not the firehawks! |
| 01:47.51 | Xinhuan | NivFreak: the largest pulls are 12ish |
| 01:47.54 | NivFreak | jebus |
| 01:48.00 | Thelyna | those are aoe packs though |
| 01:48.05 | Xinhuan | 2 elites, 10 aoe-able non-elites that is |
| 01:48.07 | NivFreak | I'm considering bringing my scrub guild to VR |
| 01:48.13 | NivFreak | Xinhuan: ah, that's cheating ;) |
| 01:48.14 | Thelyna | the biggest tank/sheep/banish packs are .. seven? |
| 01:48.23 | NivFreak | what's the average |
| 01:48.26 | Xinhuan | nope, just 6 |
| 01:48.38 | Xinhuan | avg is 5 |
| 01:48.58 | NivFreak | but CCable mobs |
| 01:49.01 | Xinhuan | but the packs of 4 and 5 in VR's room are balanced out by the aoe packs of 12 in solarian's room ;p |
| 01:49.16 | NivFreak | Well say we stop at VR |
| 01:49.25 | NivFreak | since I'll be amazed if I can even get them through the trash |
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| 01:49.37 | Xinhuan | lets just say the trash in VR's room is harder than the trash to/in solarian's room |
| 01:49.41 | Antiarc | You should go for Solarian |
| 01:49.43 | NivFreak | currently 25% of the raid is dead after gruul's pulls |
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| 01:49.47 | NivFreak | haha |
| 01:49.51 | Antiarc | Solarian is so freaking easy now |
| 01:50.10 | NivFreak | I think our DPS is still too low for anything in TK :) |
| 01:50.14 | NivFreak | but I don't really know |
| 01:50.21 | NivFreak | 7K on the gruul kill this week |
| 01:50.23 | NivFreak | bleh |
| 01:50.29 | Antiarc | 7k is a bit lowish |
| 01:50.35 | Xinhuan | how many Growths is that? |
| 01:50.45 | NivFreak | 13-14 |
| 01:50.45 | NivFreak | this week |
| 01:50.46 | NivFreak | let me check |
| 01:50.49 | Xinhuan | anything more than 12 is kinda low |
| 01:50.55 | NivFreak | last week it was 17 |
| 01:50.56 | NivFreak | hahaha |
| 01:51.34 | NivFreak | http://wowwebstats.com/1udfmm53uyy6i |
| 01:52.08 | NivFreak | our arms warrior totally failed |
| 01:52.15 | NivFreak | 407DPS on gruul |
| 01:52.17 | NivFreak | haha |
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| 01:53.01 | Antiarc | http://wowwebstats.com/2lqfbm2iwyoac was our last Solarian and VR kills |
| 01:53.15 | NivFreak | yea, so like 50% more DPS |
| 01:53.17 | Thelyna | you need 7500 rDPS over 10 minutes to kill VR |
| 01:53.27 | Thelyna | 4.5 million damage, 600 seconds |
| 01:53.27 | NivFreak | that's great to know |
| 01:53.29 | NivFreak | I |
| 01:53.30 | NivFreak | I' |
| 01:53.31 | NivFreak | er |
| 01:53.36 | NivFreak | I've been trying to find some solid data |
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| 01:53.52 | NivFreak | how about mag? |
| 01:54.07 | Antiarc | If you have a resto shaman and your ranged aren't unconscious, VR is pretty easy |
| 01:54.08 | NivFreak | We're dropping Gruul every week, so I'd like to get some new content in |
| 01:54.11 | NivFreak | but our DPS is still low |
| 01:54.13 | Antiarc | Mag has no enrage timer |
| 01:54.18 | Antiarc | So you just have to not screw up on him |
| 01:54.20 | NivFreak | sure |
| 01:54.23 | NivFreak | which is another problem |
| 01:54.29 | NivFreak | but that we can manage |
| 01:54.37 | Antiarc | Lurker Below and Solarian are you two easiest bosses |
| 01:54.53 | NivFreak | man, everyone always swears that VR is easiest |
| 01:55.03 | Antiarc | VR was, until 2.2 |
| 01:55.03 | NivFreak | (to me) |
| 01:55.08 | NivFreak | what changed? |
| 01:55.12 | Antiarc | When Solarian was nerfed into the ground from an already laughable state |
| 01:55.16 | Antiarc | you don't need AR tanks for her anymore |
| 01:55.22 | Antiarc | People just have to run away when they're the bomb |
| 01:55.24 | Antiarc | Geddon 2.0 |
| 01:55.39 | NivFreak | you still need AR though, just not 500AR right? |
| 01:55.57 | rubik | gaahh.. i'm too chicken to try the Shartuul event.. seems like too much crap to do.. haha |
| 01:55.59 | NivFreak | I have a ~380AR set |
| 01:56.09 | Xinhuan | you do not need AR. |
| 01:56.13 | Xinhuan | whole raid wears 0. |
| 01:56.19 | Xinhuan | not even the tank needs any. |
| 01:56.22 | Antiarc | You need 0 AR for Solarian |
| 01:56.29 | NivFreak | wow |
| 01:56.31 | Antiarc | In fact, you need to wear 0 AR because you need high DPS |
| 01:56.32 | NivFreak | so a big change indeed |
| 01:56.38 | NivFreak | <-- tank |
| 01:56.48 | Xinhuan | if your healers can't heal Arcane Missiles from the boss at 3k per tick/wave, your healers suck |
| 01:56.52 | NivFreak | I got my gruul shield last night in fact |
| 01:56.53 | NivFreak | mmm |
| 01:56.56 | Xinhuan | its only 3k dps from the boss |
| 01:57.13 | NivFreak | so if we're dropping gruul, but with only ~7K DPS |
| 01:57.16 | NivFreak | where should we play next? |
| 01:57.21 | Xinhuan | and that's all the boss does - cast AM on random players, and melee the tank |
| 01:57.35 | NivFreak | solarian? |
| 01:57.38 | Xinhuan | yeah |
| 01:57.48 | Antiarc | Lurker Below will be your easiest kill |
| 01:58.09 | NivFreak | how bad was the hydross nerf? |
| 01:58.19 | Xinhuan | hydross wasn't changed AFAIK |
| 01:58.21 | Thelyna | also, Antiarc, didn't they put a 30min enrage on Mag? |
| 01:58.35 | NivFreak | lurker doesn't drop T5 though, right? |
| 01:58.41 | Xinhuan | nope |
| 01:58.46 | Xinhuan | but he drops 3 epics |
| 01:58.53 | Antiarc | Heh, I don't know if they did or not. Our kills are usually about 10 minutes. |
| 01:58.56 | Xinhuan | 60% of which are junk |
| 01:59.05 | Thelyna | including a nice tanking weapon and the best spriest belt in the game |
| 01:59.09 | Thelyna | (er, pre-BT) |
| 01:59.14 | Xinhuan | 10 min is alright, remember the first 2 min is phase 1 |
| 01:59.24 | NivFreak | oh |
| 01:59.27 | NivFreak | the mallet |
| 01:59.35 | NivFreak | I really just want to upgrade my blazeguard |
| 01:59.38 | Xinhuan | 8 minutes is about 15% per click phase |
| 01:59.41 | NivFreak | :) |
| 02:00.09 | Antiarc | Doesn't look like we have a Mag kill on record in WWS anymore |
| 02:00.22 | NivFreak | you need an unlimited account :) |
| 02:00.33 | Antiarc | We do have the 35th fastest Leotheras kill in WWS though! |
| 02:00.48 | Xinhuan | my fastest leotheras kill is 6 min 12 secs ;p |
| 02:00.50 | NivFreak | so I guess everyone likes VR since he drops t5 |
| 02:01.19 | Antiarc | Ours was 6 min 8 sec, looks like |
| 02:01.41 | Xinhuan | he didn't drop my T5 gloves for a good 7 weeks in a row |
| 02:01.45 | Xinhuan | i almost cried when it dropped |
| 02:02.11 | Xinhuan | the randomness is just bullshit |
| 02:02.19 | NivFreak | hehe |
| 02:02.24 | Xinhuan | double champion or double defender or champ/defender for 7 weeks in a row |
| 02:02.32 | NivFreak | 20 weeks of moroes kills |
| 02:02.34 | NivFreak | no belt |
| 02:02.37 | NivFreak | I hate him |
| 02:02.38 | Xinhuan | until like every paladin has 2 different gloves out of their 3 different sets |
| 02:02.59 | Wobwork | Xinhuan: It's always the pallies =( |
| 02:03.25 | Antiarc | 7 weeks isn't a very big sample size though |
| 02:03.30 | Xinhuan | see there was a theory - mage/lock/hunter shares a set, and all 3 of these classes |
| 02:03.33 | Xinhuan | only have 1 set |
| 02:03.35 | Xinhuan | to collect |
| 02:03.45 | Xinhuan | so the theory goes this piece drops the least |
| 02:03.48 | Antiarc | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:03.50 | Xinhuan | since other classes have more sets |
| 02:04.04 | Antiarc | We see a ton of hero |
| 02:04.08 | Antiarc | Not a lot of champion |
| 02:04.24 | Xinhuan | but according to allakhazam and thottbot drop rates, they are fairly equal |
| 02:04.29 | Xinhuan | so meh |
| 02:04.46 | Antiarc | 7 weeks of no hero is a 1.52% probability |
| 02:04.52 | Antiarc | Which is unlikely but has to happen to someone :P |
| 02:05.04 | Xinhuan | well it'll happen to 1 out of every 100 guilds or so ;p |
| 02:05.15 | NightHawkTheSane | well, 1.5 out of every 100 ;) |
| 02:05.17 | Xinhuan | and there's a few thousand guilds hehe |
| 02:05.23 | Antiarc | Exactly! |
| 02:05.43 | Xinhuan | at least i managed to get my 4 pc |
| 02:05.47 | Xinhuan | pewpew |
| 02:06.48 | Towbar | alakzham and thottbot... |
| 02:06.51 | Bruners | if i should start using WWS on raids, when should i start capturing ? |
| 02:06.59 | Towbar | wowhead ftw |
| 02:07.19 | Bruners | or do WWS find out itselfe when the fight started/ended ? |
| 02:07.40 | rubik | i use LoggerHead addon to auto-toggle combatloggin on/off per instance |
| 02:09.30 | Bruners | rubik: ok, is the logfile deleted each time or ? |
| 02:09.39 | rubik | nope.. appends each time |
| 02:09.50 | rubik | so you gotta maintain it yourself outside the game |
| 02:10.27 | rubik | or you can be lazy and let it grow.. i think mine is over 100MB and has raids for the past 2 months |
| 02:10.46 | Bruners | how do you sort out the log then ? |
| 02:10.52 | Bruners | for publishing |
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| 02:11.19 | RogueShadow | woo. cooled cpu's are the best. |
| 02:11.39 | rubik | i manually edit it and remove everything up to 1st pull and after last action or whatever.. and parse only that.. but i think the WWS parser has some built-in splitting thing by date, etc. |
| 02:16.06 | harldephin | damn. i hate being tired. -.- |
| 02:19.20 | Fin | if I wanted to make an addon LoadOnDemand, but have it load by default (just so that it could be possible to load it from an in-game addon manager without having to reload the UI), is there a Good way to do this? |
| 02:20.03 | NimbleRabit | omg is partender's pageswapping ever going to be fixed |
| 02:21.29 | Ellipsis | what's wrong with it? |
| 02:21.59 | NightHawkTheSane | well, for one thing, it's called partender. that's just wrong. |
| 02:22.01 | NightHawkTheSane | :P |
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| 02:25.17 | NimbleRabit | oops bartender lol |
| 02:25.26 | Primer | Anyone reporting that recount numbers are wrong with recent updates? Yesterday I did Mech with a group and I was surprised that a hunter in mostly blues was keeping pace with me, a mostly epic lock. Turns out his damage meters had me WAY ahead |
| 02:25.30 | NimbleRabit | I dunno if pageswapping is the right word, but when I stealth the bar is *supposed* to change |
| 02:25.45 | NimbleRabit | the graphics of the buttons change but the keybindings still are linked to the normal non-stealth bar |
| 02:25.48 | NimbleRabit | that's what's wrong with it |
| 02:26.12 | Primer | I've been running WAU every day |
| 02:26.22 | Ellipsis | never even heard of that issue NimbleRabit |
| 02:26.35 | NimbleRabit | Ellipsis: Been happening to me since 2.2 =/ |
| 02:26.42 | Ellipsis | perhaps you should, like, report it |
| 02:27.19 | Primer | Also, recount is shown as "out of date", despite me running WAU every day, and seeing recount being updated |
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| 02:28.51 | Ellipsis | NimbleRabit: do you use Theorycraft2? |
| 02:28.52 | Antiarc | You know, if I had time, I'd write Desktop Tower Defense for WoW |
| 02:28.57 | Antiarc | So I'd have something to do on Al'ar |
| 02:30.03 | NimbleRabit | Ellipsis: nope. I guess I'll report the issue. |
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| 02:30.48 | Ellipsis | someone else had a problem like that and posted about it in the thread, apparently it turned out to be a conflict with theorycraft...you could try disabling your other addons and seeing if it sttill happens |
| 02:31.13 | NimbleRabit | Yep I will, have been hoping a solution would show up before I had to do testing to find out where the problem is |
| 02:31.40 | CIA-12 | 03hshh * r50857 10QuestAnnouncer/ (Core.lua Locale-enUS.lua): QuestAnnouncer: add quest completed announce |
| 02:31.47 | Primer | deleted the Recount directory, re-installed it with WAU...still "out of date" |
| 02:33.08 | CIA-12 | 03hshh * r50858 10Mendeleev/ (4 files in 2 dirs): Mendeleev: add item sell price display, data from Informant |
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| 02:36.45 | CIA-12 | 03hshh * r50859 10Mendeleev/SellPriceData.lua: Mendeleev: lost commit SellPriceData.lua |
| 02:37.25 | NightHawkTheSane | Antiarc: I've seen a wow chess game, play that with another rogue? :P |
| 02:37.55 | CIA-12 | 03kandarz * r50860 10EveryQuest/: EveryQuest: Created directory trunk/EveryQuest |
| 02:38.04 | CIA-12 | 03hshh * r50861 10MobHealth/MobHealth3.lua: MobHealth: remove dupe variables |
| 02:38.32 | Antiarc | Desktop Tower Defense would be more fun |
| 02:38.34 | Antiarc | Ooh |
| 02:38.36 | Xinhuan | http://home2.pacific.net.sg/~xinhuan/wow/puzzlefighter1.jpg |
| 02:38.38 | Antiarc | I should write WoW Pong |
| 02:38.41 | Xinhuan | http://home2.pacific.net.sg/~xinhuan/wow/puzzlefighter2.jpg |
| 02:38.43 | Xinhuan | http://home2.pacific.net.sg/~xinhuan/wow/puzzlefighter3.jpg |
| 02:38.50 | Antiarc | ...gief, now |
| 02:39.02 | Xinhuan | i wrote this addon pre TBC |
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| 02:39.14 | Antiarc | I need this. |
| 02:39.14 | Xinhuan | around patch 1.11 or so |
| 02:39.15 | Antiarc | Really. |
| 02:39.22 | Xinhuan | but it broke on patch 2.0 and i never bothered to fix it |
| 02:39.27 | Antiarc | :( |
| 02:39.29 | Xinhuan | also i never actually released it |
| 02:39.35 | Xinhuan | hence the 0.9 version |
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| 02:39.42 | Xinhuan | maybe i'll fix it up and release |
| 02:39.52 | Xinhuan | but it uses the old PM whisper system to play |
| 02:39.54 | NightHawkTheSane | that looks pretty impressive, actually |
| 02:39.55 | Xinhuan | between 2 players |
| 02:40.09 | Xinhuan | instead of the new 2.1 ADDON WHISPER channel |
| 02:40.34 | NightHawkTheSane | You should totally fix it up, and release it. |
| 02:40.36 | Xinhuan | i wrote the whole thing using event triggers lol, so |
| 02:40.44 | Xinhuan | it doesn't actually use any CPU |
| 02:40.54 | Xinhuan | and the animation of falling blocks is all done using OnUpdates |
| 02:41.02 | Xinhuan | so you can see the gems fall smoothly |
| 02:41.12 | Ellipsis | oh man, I want that addon so bad |
| 02:41.12 | Xinhuan | and on bursting, gems fall down smoothly too :) |
| 02:41.14 | Ellipsis | liek srsly |
| 02:41.28 | Xinhuan | i assume you've played the arcane version before? :) |
| 02:41.31 | Xinhuan | arcade* |
| 02:42.05 | CIA-12 | 03hshh * r50862 10/trunk/ (5 files in 4 dirs): CooldownCount,EasyTrack,PlayerMenu,RangeRecolor: update .toc |
| 02:42.15 | Xinhuan | i even wrote the thing to be easily skinnable (lol) |
| 02:42.30 | Xinhuan | and planned to use a global channel where other players can join this channel to "watch 2 players play" |
| 02:42.31 | CIA-12 | 03kandarz * r50863 10EveryQuest/ (17 files in 3 dirs): |
| 02:42.31 | CIA-12 | EveryQuest: initial commit |
| 02:42.31 | CIA-12 | - Tracks quest status (quest history) and displays quests completed by zone for outland |
| 02:42.46 | Xinhuan | while not participating in the actual 1v1 game itself |
| 02:42.57 | Xinhuan | but i guess that is a bit too grand on the scope? |
| 02:43.10 | Wobwork | Xinhuan: nah, that's kinda cool |
| 02:43.12 | NightHawkTheSane | maybe for a first version, but i think it'd be cool |
| 02:43.21 | Xinhuan | think of tetrinet ZOMG |
| 02:43.30 | Xinhuan | 6 player tetrinet in wow |
| 02:43.51 | Xinhuan | (its doable, i have the tetris pieces rotation code somewhere) |
| 02:43.55 | Ellipsis | I would hit it so hard |
| 02:44.04 | Ellipsis | Xinhuan, you will be like, my favorite person evar |
| 02:44.07 | Ellipsis | if you make that happen |
| 02:44.23 | Xinhuan | unforunately writing more addons = maintaining more addons |
| 02:44.27 | Xinhuan | so meh |
| 02:44.43 | CIA-12 | 03kandarz * r50864 10EveryQuest_AOutland_Data/: Created directory trunk/EveryQuest_AOutland_Data |
| 02:44.48 | Xinhuan | i may finish up puzzlefighter though, since its 90% done but forgotten since october last year |
| 02:44.56 | Xinhuan | it was fun playing it between Naxx wipes lolz |
| 02:45.03 | Xinhuan | can pause the game too |
| 02:45.07 | Xinhuan | by closing the window |
| 02:45.12 | Xinhuan | and continue later (lol) |
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| 02:45.57 | Wobwork | Call it Super Puzzle Fighter Alpha II |
| 02:46.03 | Wobwork | Championships! |
| 02:46.04 | Xinhuan | the one thing i couldn't do is to send a "pause game" message to the other player on zoning |
| 02:46.19 | Xinhuan | because SendChatMessage fails to deliver anything |
| 02:46.20 | CIA-12 | 03kandarz * r50865 10EveryQuest_AOutland_Data/EveryQuest_AOutland_Data.toc: |
| 02:46.20 | CIA-12 | EveryQuest_AOutland_Data: initial commit |
| 02:46.20 | CIA-12 | - Load on demand TOC for Alliance outland zones |
| 02:46.31 | Xinhuan | after or during a PLAYER_LEAVING_WORLD event |
| 02:46.40 | Wobwork | Xinhuan: Maybe a ping from the other player then =P |
| 02:46.51 | Wobwork | that's a lot of ping traffic though |
| 02:47.26 | Xinhuan | maybe |
| 02:47.31 | Wobwork | although a one second round time might be alright |
| 02:47.37 | Xinhuan | but i'm currently working on other addons |
| 02:47.51 | Xinhuan | Cartographer_Routes is one of them, and WoWEquip is the other |
| 02:47.55 | Wobwork | sort of a keepalive notification |
| 02:48.08 | Wobwork | Xinhuan: isn't Grum working on a Cart_Routes? |
| 02:48.17 | Xinhuan | we decided to work on it together |
| 02:48.21 | Wobwork | cool =) |
| 02:48.25 | Xinhuan | he's doing the UI frontend and minimap stuff |
| 02:48.31 | Xinhuan | i'm doing the path generation code |
| 02:48.39 | Xinhuan | and optimizations |
| 02:48.44 | Wobwork | I recall pastamancer gave some nice path generation code |
| 02:48.52 | Xinhuan | 450 nodes take about 80 seconds |
| 02:48.58 | Xinhuan | 300 nodes takes about 15 seconds |
| 02:49.02 | Xinhuan | 200 nodes about 10 seconds |
| 02:49.14 | Xinhuan | 100 nodes about 3 seconds |
| 02:49.22 | Xinhuan | and anything less is negligible |
| 02:49.24 | Wobwork | Maybe work with partial generation, or generation on the fly? |
| 02:49.34 | Wobwork | 80 seconds is a long time |
| 02:49.50 | Wobwork | (450 nodes are huge, though =P) |
| 02:49.51 | Xinhuan | partial generation is tricky if you want to yield |
| 02:50.03 | Xinhuan | if i do that, i would be using the coroutine library to do this |
| 02:50.19 | Xinhuan | and create a separate thread for it to run the TSP path generation |
| 02:50.30 | Xinhuan | which will call co.yield() |
| 02:50.37 | NimbleRabit | ckknight: just wanted to say the new rock is very sexy |
| 02:50.46 | Xinhuan | very often, and a OnUpdate in the main addon would co.resume() |
| 02:50.54 | Xinhuan | that way you won't lockup the UI |
| 02:50.59 | ckknight | NimbleRabit: you mean Rock Config |
| 02:51.14 | Xinhuan | not sure how much extra overhead that would cause though |
| 02:51.21 | Xinhuan | until i actually test it |
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| 02:54.05 | NimbleRabit | ckknight: I guess that's what I mean. I just know it looks so much nicer |
| 02:54.15 | ckknight | glad you like it |
| 02:56.34 | kandarz | for externals, do I add in all the externals that the externals also need? |
| 02:57.01 | kandarz | such as Quixote-1.0 needs Deformat-1.0, do I add Deformat to my addons externals also? |
| 02:57.53 | Xinhuan | yes, because when you specific the externals for Quixote-1.0, you specified the subfolder |
| 02:58.01 | Xinhuan | which doesn't have externals attached |
| 02:58.15 | Xinhuan | get what i mean? |
| 02:58.21 | kandarz | I think |
| 02:58.27 | kandarz | we'll see if it works :| |
| 02:58.38 | Xinhuan | the subfolder doesn't have a svn:externals property that is |
| 02:58.58 | Xinhuan | Quixote-1.0\Quixote-1.0\*.* |
| 02:59.07 | kandarz | ah okay, so when I add Quixote, it won't get quixote's externals automatically |
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| 03:00.29 | kandarz | does "Libs" have to have a capital L? |
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| 03:03.41 | Xinhuan | no |
| 03:03.48 | Xinhuan | it doesn't even need to be called Libs\ |
| 03:03.53 | Xinhuan | it can be called Haha |
| 03:04.00 | Keirathi | looking for a little help...anyone know of an event that tracks when you gain/lose weapon enchantments (ie windfury weapon) |
| 03:04.08 | Xinhuan | or you can eliminate that folder level |
| 03:04.20 | kandarz | just for concistancy then? |
| 03:04.24 | Xinhuan | and just have all the libraries directly withotu a Libs\ intermediate folder |
| 03:04.33 | Xinhuan | its really up to you |
| 03:04.44 | Xinhuan | it makes no real difference |
| 03:04.46 | Xinhuan | and there is no standard |
| 03:07.27 | Xinhuan | Keirathi: i still think that event is PLAYER_AURAS_CHANGED, but dont' quote me for it |
| 03:07.36 | Xinhuan | it is fired on gaining/losing any buff |
| 03:07.46 | Ackis | cool they changed azgalor |
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| 03:09.09 | Xinhuan | maybe not |
| 03:09.11 | Xinhuan | function BuffFrame_Enchant_OnUpdate(elapsed) |
| 03:09.22 | Xinhuan | apaprently the blizzard UI uses polling to display the weapon buffs |
| 03:09.29 | Xinhuan | on the buffframe |
| 03:10.34 | Xinhuan | which is bad design, and uses no events |
| 03:10.52 | JackHound | If there a way to resize the length or a bar for FuBar? I just got it off WAU and don't see the option anywhere... |
| 03:11.05 | JackHound | Which is really weird for something like FUBar to not have it. |
| 03:11.06 | Xinhuan | JackHound: drag the edge |
| 03:11.28 | JackHound | Ah |
| 03:11.30 | JackHound | Wow. |
| 03:12.29 | Xinhuan | is that counter-intuitive or what? :) |
| 03:12.37 | JackHound | Very. |
| 03:12.51 | Wobwork | There obviously needs a keybinding =P |
| 03:12.59 | JackHound | I think the only way I would have found that was by accident. |
| 03:13.08 | JackHound | Or menu option, like a slider. |
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| 03:13.13 | JackHound | Like a normal addon. |
| 03:13.36 | Xinhuan | i bet half the world doesn't even know the Rock Addon configuration window can be resized |
| 03:13.41 | Xinhuan | like any Windows program |
| 03:13.44 | Antiarc | ckknight: The talent/addon preferences in rock aren't sticking between UI reloads |
| 03:13.45 | Xinhuan | in the bottom right corner |
| 03:13.53 | ckknight | Antiarc: srsly? they do for me |
| 03:13.58 | Wobwork | I think the reason it's so hard to figure out at times, is that the FuBar starts out full length, so it's hard to see the cursor change at the ends offscreen |
| 03:14.15 | ckknight | Xinhuan: I put the lines at the bottom-right and everything |
| 03:14.29 | Xinhuan | ckknight: you'll be surprised, nobody notices it |
| 03:14.31 | Wobwork | Antiarc: could it be due to embedding or lack thereof? |
| 03:14.37 | ckknight | lamers |
| 03:14.38 | Wobwork | Xinhuan: too subtle? |
| 03:14.38 | Antiarc | Lemme try a WAU cycle and I'll report what I find |
| 03:14.51 | Antiarc | Well, once we get to Al'ar |
| 03:14.55 | Antiarc | Because I won't have anything else to do |
| 03:15.00 | Wobwork | hehe |
| 03:15.22 | JackHound | I saw the window resize as soon as it was put in |
| 03:15.34 | JackHound | And was damn happy |
| 03:15.50 | Keirathi | Xinhuan: so how would i implement that into my little worthless mini-addon? basically i'm just printing a message to the errorframe telling me when windfury wears off, or if i enter combat and dont have windfury on |
| 03:15.51 | CIA-12 | 03kandarz * r50866 10EveryQuest/ (EveryQuest.toc Libs/): EveryQuest: Added Externals, updated TOC |
| 03:15.54 | JackHound | btw ckk, gj with Rock. I'm really liking it. |
| 03:15.59 | ckknight | :-) |
| 03:16.27 | Wobwork | "Oh noes, they has taken my winfurries"? |
| 03:16.32 | Bruners | ckknight: have you done any major changes to rock config lately? |
| 03:16.32 | Antiarc | Hey now, no Rock compliements allowed. |
| 03:16.41 | ckknight | Bruners: lately? |
| 03:16.43 | Bruners | as in the last two days |
| 03:16.47 | ckknight | Bruners: yes. |
| 03:16.48 | Xinhuan | Keirathi: at the moment, i don't think it is possible without checking every second to see if GetWeaponEnchantInfo() returns stuff |
| 03:16.52 | ckknight | Bruners: I think |
| 03:16.58 | Wobwork | hehe "lately" for ckk is last 5 minutes =) |
| 03:16.59 | ckknight | Bruners: I can no longer tell days apart |
| 03:17.01 | Xinhuan | but don't quote me on that |
| 03:17.06 | Bruners | hehe |
| 03:17.11 | Xinhuan | i could be wrong |
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| 03:17.15 | Bruners | stupid isp wont let me log on wow :S |
| 03:17.18 | Antiarc | You should just be able to watch auras or whatever |
| 03:17.31 | Keirathi | windfury isnt a normal aura |
| 03:17.33 | Xinhuan | Antiarc: that's the thing, windfury on your weapon isn't an aura |
| 03:17.38 | Wobwork | well you're only checking on start of combat, though, aren't you? |
| 03:17.41 | Antiarc | Temp enchant then |
| 03:17.49 | Antiarc | Look up any poison notification addon and see how they do it |
| 03:17.51 | Wobwork | I think you have to tooltipscan =P |
| 03:17.52 | Antiarc | It's a solved problem |
| 03:18.02 | Wobwork | it's not a pretty solution =P |
| 03:18.02 | Xinhuan | as far as i can tell, the only way to monitor the temp enchant is to continually poll GetWeaponEnchantInfo() |
| 03:18.13 | Xinhuan | which is what the Blizzard default Buff UI does |
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| 03:18.19 | Wobwork | Xinhuan: Well, you don't have to continuously do so |
| 03:18.20 | Keirathi | i have the checking at the start of combat working fine...but want reminder if temp enchant happens to go off say in the middle of a boss fight |
| 03:18.28 | Wobwork | since you're only checking for existance at one point |
| 03:18.31 | futurekill | anyone know if there is a way to reset the proximo frame position...I think it's offscreen... |
| 03:18.36 | Wobwork | ah |
| 03:18.42 | Wobwork | well in that case, you'll have to poll =) |
| 03:18.53 | Wobwork | or figure out the timeout on first check |
| 03:18.57 | Xinhuan | well i don't use any "buff addons", just the default one, so i dont' know how other buff addons do it |
| 03:18.58 | Antiarc | Why not just check the time remaining, and then at that timeout, check it? |
| 03:19.00 | Wobwork | and then set a timer to check again |
| 03:19.03 | Antiarc | Right. |
| 03:19.08 | Xinhuan | Antiarc: windfury |
| 03:19.14 | Xinhuan | doesn't work that way |
| 03:19.16 | Antiarc | The weapon enchant |
| 03:19.18 | Antiarc | Right?> |
| 03:19.23 | Keirathi | it does work that way Xin |
| 03:19.36 | Antiarc | Not talking about totem procs |
| 03:19.39 | Xinhuan | it doesn't last its duration if you walk out of totem range does it? |
| 03:19.44 | Antiarc | The weapon enchant, like Frostbrand |
| 03:20.01 | Keirathi | mainHandExpiration() |
| 03:20.02 | Xinhuan | yeah those |
| 03:20.12 | Keirathi | im talking about personal enchant |
| 03:20.18 | Keirathi | i have totem timers for other stuff |
| 03:20.19 | Xinhuan | in any case, you'll still have to poll continually |
| 03:20.26 | Xinhuan | but you don't have to do it every second |
| 03:20.32 | Antiarc | Just poll once and if it's there set a timeout for when you expect it to expire |
| 03:20.36 | CIA-12 | 03kandarz * r50867 10EveryQuest_AOutland_Data/EveryQuest_AOutland_Data.toc: EveryQuest_AOutland_Data: Updated TOC |
| 03:20.52 | Keirathi | ill just start a timer when combat begins, and when timer is up i'll put a reminder |
| 03:21.01 | Antiarc | That way the only way you'd lose it and not get a notification is if you manually clicked it off |
| 03:21.02 | Xinhuan | which is really still polling since it involves setting up a OnUpdate ;p |
| 03:21.36 | bakuryu | is/are the person/people who code WowAceUpdater around? |
| 03:21.36 | Antiarc | Yes, but it's lighter than calling the method often |
| 03:21.48 | Keirathi | k i think i can get it now...just gotta find documentation on timers |
| 03:21.55 | Antiarc | Are you using AceEvent? |
| 03:22.17 | Xinhuan | bakuryu: sylvanaar last talked 84 min ago :) |
| 03:22.19 | Keirathi | ya |
| 03:22.21 | Xinhuan | he's the guy |
| 03:22.28 | bakuryu | ah |
| 03:22.44 | bakuryu | then I guess I'll idle a bit - thanks. =) |
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| 03:23.19 | Antiarc | Then you can just say self:ScheduleEvent(functionToCall, secondsToCallIn, param1, param2 ... param n) |
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| 03:24.22 | NightHawkTheSane | hm, unless i'm missing some partof what you said, the problem with checking once, and then at the timeout, is for shammy weapon buffs, if they change weapons, you'll need to potentially recheck the buff? |
| 03:25.12 | CIA-12 | 03funkydude * r50868 10Cartographer1/: CartoAce: Rename to Cartographer1 to clarify old version |
| 03:25.17 | Keirathi | well |
| 03:25.41 | Antiarc | You can capture UNIT_INVENTORY_CHANGED |
| 03:25.41 | Antiarc | And recheck on that |
| 03:25.42 | Antiarc | Or whatever the event is |
| 03:25.42 | NightHawkTheSane | true |
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| 03:25.48 | Keirathi | this is just a personal addon, and the first thing i've written, so i'm not trying to get too complicated |
| 03:26.06 | Knaledge | has anyone had any trouble lately with ... an addon hiding all the content of their raid frame? |
| 03:26.13 | Knaledge | the raid pane on the social frame? |
| 03:26.25 | CIA-12 | 03funkydude * r50869 10FuBar2/: FuBarAce: Rename to FuBar2 to clarify old version |
| 03:26.58 | Xinhuan | Knaledge: don't think so |
| 03:27.05 | Knaledge | weird |
| 03:27.11 | Knaledge | I'm not using oRA2 or any CT mod |
| 03:27.21 | Knaledge | I have: pitbull, omen, auldlangsyne |
| 03:27.25 | Knaledge | uhm.. |
| 03:27.35 | Knaledge | fubar, eepanels, etc. |
| 03:27.45 | Knaledge | it's weird because it only happens while I |
| 03:27.48 | Knaledge | I am in combat |
| 03:27.52 | Antiarc | I would guess Auld |
| 03:27.56 | Antiarc | Since it does social panel stuff |
| 03:27.59 | Antiarc | And may be tainting it |
| 03:28.00 | Xinhuan | guessing its Auld too |
| 03:28.09 | Antiarc | Try disabling it and see if that does anything for you |
| 03:28.16 | Knaledge | ok will do |
| 03:28.26 | Knaledge | hanging out for a sec while I try that |
| 03:28.40 | Knaledge | also - ooc: not sure if this is still happening but.. |
| 03:29.05 | Knaledge | is it still the case that yif you load an addon, then disable it, then load into the game, then log and re-enable the addon.. |
| 03:29.14 | Knaledge | it clears all your settings/saved vars etc. |
| 03:29.18 | Knaledge | is that old/myth? |
| 03:29.18 | Xinhuan | no. |
| 03:29.24 | Xinhuan | half-myth |
| 03:29.27 | Keirathi | oh also, i have a syntactical (is that even a word?!) question |
| 03:29.28 | Knaledge | was that ever the case? |
| 03:29.36 | Xinhuan | the savedvars don't get changed, they will retain |
| 03:29.38 | sylvanaar | someone need something? |
| 03:29.54 | Keirathi | why doesnt if not 'GetWeaponEnchantInfo(hasMainHandEnchant) or not GetWeaponEnchantInfo(hasOffHandEnchant) then' fire if i have enchant on mainhand but not offhand |
| 03:29.54 | Xinhuan | however the layout will be gone/reset if the addon uses layout-cache.txt to save its layout via framexml |
| 03:30.01 | Xinhuan | so its half-true |
| 03:30.07 | Knaledge | ah ok |
| 03:30.13 | Knaledge | ALS doesn't I don't think |
| 03:30.27 | Knaledge | I just remember if you did that with Telo's Lootlink it would wipe your entire item DB |
| 03:30.30 | Xinhuan | if the addon uses savedvars to save its window locations, then its fine |
| 03:30.41 | hyperChipmunk | the word is syntactic |
| 03:30.41 | Xinhuan | Telo's addons are getting poorer and poorer |
| 03:30.49 | Antiarc | You're using the method wrong |
| 03:31.06 | Antiarc | It's hasMainHandEnchant, mainHandExpiration, mainHandCharges, hasOffHandEnchant, offHandExpiration, offHandCharges = GetWeaponEnchantInfo(); |
| 03:31.14 | Antiarc | Lua functions can return multiple values |
| 03:31.27 | Antiarc | So in this case, the function returns six values |
| 03:31.33 | CIA-12 | 03ananhaid * r50870 10DeuceCommander/DeuceCommander.toc: |
| 03:31.33 | CIA-12 | DeuceCommander: |
| 03:31.34 | CIA-12 | - 2.2 toc |
| 03:31.34 | hyperChipmunk | the -ic is already an adjectifying suffix (from syntax); it doesn't need another |
| 03:31.59 | Xinhuan | to reinforce Antiarc: "a, b = b, a" is the simplest way to swap the values of 2 variables |
| 03:32.01 | hyperChipmunk | now, whether 'adjectifying' is a word is another story... |
| 03:32.33 | Birdemani | Anyone here use CHATSOUNDS mod? |
| 03:34.12 | [AoC]Camci | whats the addon called that gives a sound when you kill someone like "killing blow" and "godlike" ? |
| 03:34.17 | [AoC]Camci | i think its unreal sounds? |
| 03:34.41 | Knaledge | I use Prat |
| 03:34.50 | Knaledge | which has chat sounds |
| 03:34.54 | Xinhuan | that would be a pretty annoying addon lol |
| 03:35.14 | Birdemani | My PRAT chatsounds is greyed out |
| 03:35.14 | [AoC]Camci | its cool in PvP |
| 03:35.26 | Birdemani | ya, i have it somehow, no idea how i got it |
| 03:35.31 | [AoC]Camci | didnt know Prat had it ? |
| 03:35.31 | Xinhuan | its not so cool when you AoE 20 mobs ;p |
| 03:35.34 | Knaledge | disabling ALS now |
| 03:35.37 | Xinhuan | and get 20 killing blows hehe |
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| 03:35.41 | Xinhuan | in 2 seconds |
| 03:35.44 | [AoC]Camci | yea but not in PVP |
| 03:35.53 | [AoC]Camci | you just disable it in pve and such :P |
| 03:35.53 | CIA-12 | 03ananhaid * r50871 10aUF_Layouts/aUF_Layouts.toc: |
| 03:35.53 | CIA-12 | aUF_Layouts: |
| 03:35.53 | CIA-12 | - 2.2 toc |
| 03:35.55 | hyperChipmunk | M-M-M-M-MONSTER KILL-Kill-kill... |
| 03:35.57 | Birdemani | no, the UNREAL stuff - no idea....PRAT has chatsounds built in |
| 03:36.08 | [AoC]Camci | yea it also said monster kill :P |
| 03:36.18 | Birdemani | but I cant get chatsounds in prat to work or via the mod CHATSOUNDS |
| 03:36.21 | [AoC]Camci | ill check Prat more... |
| 03:36.29 | ZealotOnAStick | I want a mod that plays a sound for that PvP icon thing, where the guy got 1000 kills by shooting guys in the nuts. |
| 03:36.35 | Xinhuan | i'll suggest you use Google to search for that mod |
| 03:36.47 | [AoC]Camci | maybe this? http://wow.curse.com/downloads/details/9445/ |
| 03:37.07 | Xinhuan | put in all the keywords... wow, addon, killing blow, godlike, sounds, etc ;p |
| 03:37.08 | [AoC]Camci | but i didnt have it before... i dont know what i had but i did get the sound... now i just dont :S |
| 03:37.09 | Birdemani | i nver installed that,it showed up one day via a WAU update |
| 03:37.24 | [AoC]Camci | heh |
| 03:37.28 | [AoC]Camci | maybe it is Prat |
| 03:37.31 | [AoC]Camci | ill check it |
| 03:38.01 | Birdemani | NECB: Offers a CounterStrike-like sound system that plays several sounds for killing blow events! |
| 03:38.12 | [AoC]Camci | CS sucks :P |
| 03:38.33 | [AoC]Camci | nature enemy cast bar ?? |
| 03:38.34 | Xinhuan | KillingSpree - this one does Unreal killing blows? |
| 03:38.43 | [AoC]Camci | killingSpree |
| 03:38.47 | [AoC]Camci | yea its from unreal |
| 03:38.51 | [AoC]Camci | iirc |
| 03:39.14 | bakuryu | could have sworn those samples were from quake. |
| 03:39.24 | CIA-12 | 03ananhaid * r50872 10IDCard/IDCard.toc: |
| 03:39.24 | CIA-12 | IDCard: |
| 03:39.24 | CIA-12 | - 2.2 toc |
| 03:39.28 | Codayus | Actually, the odd thing is I don't think CS does that; it's a (very popular) server-side mod. |
| 03:39.40 | Codayus | *shrug* |
| 03:39.41 | [AoC]Camci | i dont remmeber quake had such samples |
| 03:39.48 | [AoC]Camci | but i just found KillingSpree_UT2k4 from wowace |
| 03:39.51 | Knaledge | Ok |
| 03:39.56 | genetik- | "killing spree" is definitely from unreal tournament |
| 03:39.56 | Knaledge | It is AuldLangSyne |
| 03:39.57 | Codayus | And I believe they come from UT, not Quake. |
| 03:40.04 | hyperChipmunk | the 'killing spree' sounds are DEFINITELY UT |
| 03:40.11 | [AoC]Camci | KillingSpree_Taunts heh :P |
| 03:40.16 | [AoC]Camci | yea its UT |
| 03:40.19 | Knaledge | whenver I am in combat, AuldLangSyne causes my Raid pane in the social frame to become completely blank |
| 03:40.29 | Knaledge | no separations, no groups, just a blank "sheet" |
| 03:40.31 | hyperChipmunk | those sounds rule |
| 03:40.32 | bakuryu | eh, in the cs:s world they were always called quake sounds =) |
| 03:40.37 | Knaledge | when out of combat, it reverts to normal |
| 03:40.40 | [AoC]Camci | yea it really rocks |
| 03:40.51 | hyperChipmunk | i want to have a conversation with that guy |
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| 03:40.59 | [AoC]Camci | there is even a female sound : KillingSpree_UT2k4Female |
| 03:41.01 | [AoC]Camci | lol |
| 03:41.26 | hyperChipmunk | is it the one with the English accent or the sultry one? |
| 03:41.41 | [AoC]Camci | i have no idea, havent tried those |
| 03:41.47 | [AoC]Camci | too late now will try tomorrow |
| 03:41.48 | CIA-12 | 03funkydude * r50873 10/trunk/ (25 files in 18 dirs): .trunk: bugfixing last commits |
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| 03:43.38 | Knaledge | Kemayo: ALS issue |
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| 03:44.13 | hyperChipmunk | Funkeh`: trunk? |
| 03:44.37 | Funkeh` | hyperChipmunk: elephant! |
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| 03:46.52 | Antiarc | Guys |
| 03:46.56 | Antiarc | Al'ar is the most exciting fight in TBC |
| 03:47.19 | Antiarc | It's like 10 minutes of free ranged skillups |
| 03:47.19 | Xinhuan | orly |
| 03:47.21 | Antiarc | Every week |
| 03:47.25 | *** mode/#wowace [+o Tem] by ChanServ |
| 03:47.32 | Antiarc | I can't describe how thrilling this is |
| 03:47.43 | NightHawkTheSane | you seem to be doing fairly well. :P |
| 03:49.20 | Knaledge | Also - is ckknight aware of the Fubar/Rock saving issue? |
| 03:49.28 | Knaledge | it doesn't save some settings between sessions |
| 03:49.35 | ckknight | no, seeing as I can't reproduce it |
| 03:49.35 | Paradox_ | I belive he is |
| 03:49.37 | ckknight | it works for me |
| 03:49.40 | Paradox_ | ah |
| 03:49.59 | ckknight | actually, hrm |
| 03:50.02 | Knaledge | ah ok - well, I can repro it by telling it stay in the dock (minimap disabled) then logging |
| 03:50.05 | ckknight | Knaledge: you using embeds or standalones? |
| 03:50.15 | Knaledge | standalones as per your request iirc |
| 03:50.17 | Paradox_ | Knaledge: same problem i'm getting |
| 03:50.18 | Knaledge | lib-X |
| 03:50.20 | Knaledge | etc. |
| 03:50.21 | Paradox_ | can't get rid of the damn minimap icon |
| 03:50.27 | Knaledge | well it's not just that |
| 03:50.31 | Knaledge | it doesn't save certain addons |
| 03:50.39 | Knaledge | like PoisonReminder_Fu |
| 03:51.54 | CIA-12 | 03ckknight * r50874 10LibRockConfig-1.0/LibRockConfig-1.0.lua: LibRockConfig-1.0 - fix saving issue for addon/talent comm options |
| 03:52.29 | CIA-12 | 03kandarz * r50875 10EveryQuest/ (3 files in 2 dirs): EveryQuest: Added Alliance instance data |
| 03:52.50 | Knaledge | ckknight rules |
| 03:52.57 | Knaledge | going to grab that frm svn in a sec |
| 03:53.02 | ckknight | might not fix your issue |
| 03:53.43 | Wobwork | kandarz: nice name =) |
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| 03:54.11 | kandarz | Wobwork, it's got every quest in BC!, well working on it :P I play alliance so a little more lazy for those horde quests |
| 03:55.04 | Knaledge | this is true |
| 03:55.29 | Knaledge | damned - that ALS issue is quite irritating |
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| 03:55.38 | Knaledge | hopefully Kemayo wraps up a fix for that son |
| 03:55.40 | Knaledge | *soon |
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| 03:56.07 | WALoeIII | anyone got an addon that will let me move my FPS readout from behind my bars? |
| 03:56.25 | WALoeIII | something super simple |
| 03:56.58 | Knaledge | better than dragging it? |
| 03:57.00 | Knaledge | oh |
| 03:57.05 | Knaledge | that can't be moved huh |
| 03:57.08 | Knaledge | I thoughti t could |
| 03:57.16 | CIA-12 | 03kandarz * r50876 10EveryQuest_AInstance_Data/: EveryQuest_AInstance_Data: Adding LOD directory |
| 03:57.23 | Knaledge | if you used a modifier key like.. shift+click+drag |
| 03:57.38 | Knaledge | otherwise |
| 03:57.42 | Knaledge | try FluidFrames |
| 03:58.16 | WALoeIII | Knaledge: you sure it can be moved by default? I tried pretty hard |
| 03:58.30 | Knaledge | simple addon that just allows all windows to be movable. You can bind a key to like... period... on your numpad and you mouse overa frame you want to _permanently_ move, press the keybind, then move it, then press the keybind again |
| 03:58.32 | CIA-12 | 03kandarz * r50877 10EveryQuest_AInstance_Data/EveryQuest_AInstance_Data.toc: EveryQuest_AInstance_Data: Adding TOC |
| 03:59.22 | Paradox_ | Knaledge: any chance that addon lets you resize frames you're dragging around too? |
| 03:59.29 | Knaledge | I think so actually |
| 03:59.33 | Knaledge | I think you can scale addons |
| 03:59.37 | Paradox_ | oh wow |
| 03:59.40 | Knaledge | it's by .... KarlKFI |
| 03:59.42 | Paradox_ | a replacement for MoveAnything |
| 03:59.48 | Paradox_ | just what i've been waiting for |
| 03:59.52 | Knaledge | it used to be MobileFrames |
| 03:59.59 | Knaledge | sec let me check if you can scale |
| 04:00.18 | Funkeh` | kandarz: You broke the externals for EverQuest |
| 04:00.20 | Knaledge | yep |
| 04:00.28 | Funkeh` | Its point to a D drive |
| 04:00.30 | Knaledge | you can scale - looks similar to the Mac window re-scaler |
| 04:00.39 | Paradox_ | it's not Ace? |
| 04:00.46 | Knaledge | not to my knowledge |
| 04:00.49 | kandarz | Funkeh`, I'm new :( sorry |
| 04:00.52 | Knaledge | It's lite though |
| 04:00.58 | Knaledge | doesnt even show up on my top 10 addons |
| 04:01.02 | Knaledge | lowest being 136kb |
| 04:01.09 | Knaledge | highest being 3.7MB |
| 04:01.44 | Paradox_ | gotta be better than an addon that hasn't been updated since pretbc |
| 04:01.47 | Paradox_ | i'll give it a try |
| 04:02.07 | Knaledge | yeah it's not updated a TON but it works and it's simple |
| 04:02.10 | kandarz | Funkeh`, I'm still learning |
| 04:02.24 | Knaledge | it's a bit diff than previous iterations - you don't just drag a frame anymore. you CAN do that but it isn't saved (position) |
| 04:02.33 | Knaledge | to save positions of the windows you drag |
| 04:02.48 | Knaledge | you do what I posted above (keybind thing + highlight + move + keybind to lock) |
| 04:02.50 | Funkeh` | kandarz: np, just fix it :) |
| 04:03.05 | kandarz | Will do, gotta learn how :P |
| 04:03.17 | Knaledge | then if you screw up and want to reset a frame you just do the keybind thing + highlight + right click |
| 04:03.20 | Knaledge | easy |
| 04:03.58 | Funkeh` | kandarz: Look at how other addons do it :) |
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| 04:04.45 | Knaledge | get it from cosmos |
| 04:05.02 | kandarz | I was using Tortoise svn, but the cache was making explorer unuseable, so now I'm using smartsvn |
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| 04:06.33 | CIA-12 | 03helium * r50878 10AddonLoader/ (AddonLoader-zhTW.lua AddonLoader.toc): |
| 04:06.33 | CIA-12 | AddonLoader: |
| 04:06.33 | CIA-12 | - bump toc to 20200 |
| 04:06.33 | CIA-12 | - updated zhTW localization |
| 04:07.03 | Paradox_ | wow, Knaledge |
| 04:07.10 | Wobwork | kandarz: you can turn that caching off |
| 04:07.18 | Paradox_ | thanks a lot... i've asked here a lot of times for an addon /exactly/ like this and nobody knew of one |
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| 04:07.26 | Knaledge | heh I like it alot |
| 04:07.27 | kandarz | Just reinstalled it, rebooting desktop |
| 04:07.27 | Wobwork | kandarz: I just have it refresh only the current folder and it works much smoother |
| 04:07.28 | JackHound | Finally, after a week of nothingbut UI changes, I'm almost to a UI I like. \o/ |
| 04:07.30 | JackHound | Geezus... |
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| 04:07.55 | Knaledge | it used to be MobileFrames |
| 04:08.00 | Knaledge | so it's pretty stable |
| 04:09.59 | Knaledge | it works on everrrything too |
| 04:10.01 | Paradox_ | i've moved my minimap elsewhere (using Squeenix), but in the top-right of my screen the minimap cluster frame is still there and intercepts mouse clicks, which is annoying.. anyone know how to uh, hide it without hiding the minimap / fix it? or am I stuck with ti |
| 04:10.07 | Knaledge | so be careful where you highlight heh |
| 04:10.22 | kandarz | Wobwork, I'm looking for Cache settings, I don't see anything... |
| 04:10.33 | Knaledge | paradox: try out simpleminimap |
| 04:10.46 | Knaledge | has a square skin |
| 04:10.46 | Wobwork | hum |
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| 04:10.54 | Knaledge | haven't had any issues |
| 04:11.02 | Knaledge | even has a "top right corner" skin |
| 04:11.09 | Paradox_ | yeah but with SM the little "N" at the top won't die |
| 04:11.13 | Wobwork | kandarz: Settings -> Icon Overlays |
| 04:11.17 | Paradox_ | which annoys me to no end |
| 04:11.18 | Knaledge | you can hide that |
| 04:11.32 | Paradox_ | It has an option to hide NESW markers |
| 04:11.35 | Paradox_ | which I check |
| 04:11.41 | Paradox_ | but there remains a small N |
| 04:11.44 | Knaledge | ah |
| 04:11.51 | Knaledge | I'm sure there's a way to script it out |
| 04:11.54 | Knaledge | or comment it even |
| 04:12.00 | Paradox_ | I tried that |
| 04:12.03 | Paradox_ | but it won't save :( |
| 04:12.07 | Knaledge | weird |
| 04:12.22 | Paradox_ | I mean, I just followed some obscure instructions from the forums |
| 04:12.28 | Knaledge | drop a line to the SMM guy and maybe he'll add a thing for it |
| 04:12.36 | Paradox_ | when you click "hide NESW" it hides the little N too, but after reload it's back again |
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| 04:12.47 | Wobwork | kandarz: Set it to Shell |
| 04:12.50 | Wobwork | or None |
| 04:13.09 | Paradox_ | so are you sure even with simpleMinimap the invisible frame moves with it too, and doesn't sit in the corner? |
| 04:14.46 | Sedai| | stunna's stracks rock brains |
| 04:15.14 | Wobwork | Once more... in English? |
| 04:16.45 | Ackis | wow 1 shot archimonde |
| 04:17.32 | CIA-12 | 03kandarz * r50879 10EveryQuest/ (. Libs/): EveryQuest: - Updated Externals, I think it's fixed :P |
| 04:17.41 | Knaledge | yeah |
| 04:17.46 | Knaledge | it has a corner skin |
| 04:17.52 | kandarz | Funkeh`, did that fix it? |
| 04:17.55 | Knaledge | so it will sit literally at the extreme edges of your screen |
| 04:19.34 | Paradox_ | D: moved it with fluidframes kandarz |
| 04:19.47 | Paradox_ | and suprisingly the minimap ping and icons did not get fubar'd |
| 04:19.51 | Funkeh` | kandarz: seems so |
| 04:23.38 | Kemayo | Knaledge: Do you need to actually be in a raid to see that problem? |
| 04:23.56 | Knaledge | YEAH |
| 04:23.58 | Knaledge | woops caps |
| 04:23.59 | Knaledge | yeah |
| 04:24.03 | Knaledge | sec |
| 04:25.40 | Knaledge | ok |
| 04:25.55 | Knaledge | so yeah basically the only time I saw it was when I was in combat - it hides all my raid frame |
| 04:26.08 | Knaledge | as soon as I am ooc, it reverts to normal |
| 04:26.11 | JackHound | If you attach an eePanel to the pet or stance bar, will it automatically not show when you dont have pets or stances? |
| 04:26.22 | Silowyi | does Prat let you filter out emotes? |
| 04:26.38 | Silowyi | like all the /wave spamming idiots at brewfest? |
| 04:26.54 | Silowyi | My ignore list is maxed out :P |
| 04:27.12 | Knaledge | I think so yeah |
| 04:27.45 | Gngsk | JackHound, if it's parented it should |
| 04:27.50 | JackHound | Ok, cool. |
| 04:27.52 | JackHound | Thanks. |
| 04:28.19 | CIA-12 | 03kandarz * r50880 10EveryQuest_HInstance_Data/: EveryQuest_HInstance_Data: Adding folder |
| 04:28.27 | Gngsk | Silowyi, just disable say channel |
| 04:29.47 | AnduinLothar | MobileFrames died. FluidFrames was written from scratch out of it's ashes after 2.0 broke everything |
| 04:30.06 | JackHound | Hm. |
| 04:30.08 | Knaledge | yeah I like FF |
| 04:30.08 | AnduinLothar | but it can't move the fps because whoever designed the fps was a nub and didn't give it a frame |
| 04:30.24 | Knaledge | well paradox could use fubar |
| 04:30.26 | AnduinLothar | it's just a FontString on the UIParent |
| 04:30.28 | Knaledge | then performance_fu |
| 04:30.40 | JackHound | Gngsk, I parented the panel to the pet bar, but when I dismissed by pet, the bar was gone but the panel stayed. |
| 04:30.53 | JackHound | my* |
| 04:31.02 | Silowyi | Gngsk that's all well and good unless you want to hear say |
| 04:31.31 | AnduinLothar | MobileFrames used to have a hack that parented the fps to a new frame and made that movable, but i decided to avoid exception cases as much as possible with FluidFrames |
| 04:32.12 | AnduinLothar | it can be done in a macro tho that will let you move it with FF. I might make a mini addon some day |
| 04:32.34 | kandarz | Funkeh`, I'm trying to import the horde lod modules, but it's saying I have to set svn:eol-style first, how do I do that in tortoise? |
| 04:34.25 | kebinusan | kandarz: http://www.wowace.com/wiki/SVN_For_Beginners |
| 04:34.59 | kebinusan | or this one actually http://www.wowace.com/wiki/SVN_AutoProps |
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| 04:35.31 | JackHound | Anyone else have an idea on the eePanels thing? |
| 04:36.17 | CIA-12 | 03kandarz * r50881 10EveryQuest_HInstance_Data/EveryQuest_HInstance_Data.toc: EveryQuest_HInstance_Data: Adding load on demand TOC |
| 04:37.07 | CIA-12 | 03kandarz * r50882 10EveryQuest_HOutland_Data/ (. EveryQuest_HOutland_Data.toc): EveryQuest_HOutland_Data: Adding load on demand TOC |
| 04:39.04 | JackHound | Im off |
| 04:39.06 | JackHound | Later |
| 04:39.27 | Gngsk | Silowyi, you can still see say if you have chat bubbles enabled |
| 04:39.32 | Keirathi | anyone have any idea why blizz's Interface Addon Kit wont work for me? gives The file "D:\World of Warcraft\\Data\interface.MPQ" could not be opened, because an error 2 occurred. If this problem persists, please contact Blizzard Technical Support." |
| 04:40.43 | Killmore2 | tired of noob who make macro with 30 lines of /wave at brewfest :( |
| 04:40.53 | Funkeh` | later |
| 04:44.14 | Antiarc | So I think Blizzard broke vanish. |
| 04:44.31 | Keirathi | yep |
| 04:44.38 | Antiarc | I vanished on Void Reaver |
| 04:44.42 | Antiarc | Pulled aggro 15 sec later |
| 04:44.42 | Keirathi | you stay in combat a few seconds after you vanish |
| 04:44.46 | Antiarc | This was 90% of the ay into the fight |
| 04:44.52 | Antiarc | I was at 3% of the tank's threat |
| 04:45.49 | pastamancer | nice |
| 04:47.12 | Knaledge | did the tank happen to get a pummel at that moment? |
| 04:47.15 | Knaledge | VR can drop threat |
| 04:48.41 | Antiarc | He drops by 25%. |
| 04:48.47 | Antiarc | I was at the very bottom of the threat list. |
| 04:48.58 | Antiarc | <-- wrote Omen, is pretty familiar with VR's threat mechanics. :) |
| 04:49.03 | chexsum | i love pitbull now - ust figured out how to show a raid like perfect raid :) |
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| 04:50.33 | ckknight | *thumbs up* |
| 04:51.35 | Knaledge | oh man I was sure I hd a question for you about omen |
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| 04:53.40 | PenguinECE | Are pitbull unit frames compatible with mobinfo? |
| 04:54.07 | PenguinECE | oop nevermind |
| 04:54.59 | Knaledge | oh yeah speaking of ptbull |
| 04:55.03 | Knaledge | is it possible to like |
| 04:55.15 | Knaledge | integrate quartz and the cast bar of pitbull? |
| 04:55.31 | Knaledge | just the bit about the latency "red" area? |
| 04:55.50 | Knaledge | or hell - just adding that as functionality in pitbull's cast bar? |
| 05:00.27 | kadrahil | void reaver down! haha |
| 05:00.28 | kadrahil | go pugs |
| 05:01.22 | CIA-12 | 03kandarz * r50883 10EveryQuest/Everyquest.lua: EveryQuest: - Updated some quest categories |
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| 05:07.45 | Antiarc | http://wow.tachyonsix.com/vanish.html |
| 05:08.25 | kadrahil | well, VR seemed really freaking easy |
| 05:08.42 | kadrahil | 12% the first time.. then we wiped like 4 more times |
| 05:09.51 | kadrahil | that was my first T5 raid experience |
| 05:10.00 | kadrahil | it made gruul trash look like a cakewalk |
| 05:11.07 | ZealotOnAStick | TK trash is stupidly hard. |
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| 05:11.21 | ZealotOnAStick | Particularly the "we're on the way to Kael'thas now" trash |
| 05:11.28 | ZealotOnAStick | though I'm told they nerfed the heck out of that. |
| 05:13.01 | kadrahil | it took our pug an hour and a half to clear the trash to VR |
| 05:13.14 | kadrahil | granted half the raid had never stepped foot into TK |
| 05:13.19 | Keirathi | Antiarch: does Wiggles happen to be a tauren warrior?! |
| 05:13.20 | chexsum | its fun being able to dance while a fire mage wastes a bar of mana on you |
| 05:13.21 | Antiarc | The Kael trash is the worst |
| 05:13.30 | Antiarc | Keirathi: Hunter pet |
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| 05:13.50 | Keirathi | oh heh |
| 05:14.13 | pastamancer | the trash to astromancer isn't too bad |
| 05:14.15 | Keirathi | there was a guy from my guild that xfered a few months ago named Wiggles |
| 05:14.27 | kadrahil | is lurker below the first boss in ssc everyone usually kills? |
| 05:14.38 | pastamancer | almost always |
| 05:14.59 | Wobwork | yus |
| 05:15.00 | pastamancer | lurker and void reaver are about the same difficulty |
| 05:15.09 | kadrahil | ah |
| 05:15.11 | Wobwork | generally given to be the next level up from Gruul |
| 05:15.24 | kadrahil | heh, i saw VR down before i saw gruul down |
| 05:15.27 | chexsum | my guilds about to start ssc |
| 05:15.49 | chexsum | were 2 shotting gruul now |
| 05:16.09 | pastamancer | gruul -> lurker/vr -> hydross -> working on mag/astromancer/alar currently |
| 05:16.30 | Killmore2 | after lurker/vr you should try solarian |
| 05:17.06 | chexsum | one day ill get to see naxx |
| 05:17.18 | chexsum | and aq40 lol |
| 05:17.23 | pastamancer | yeah, we had the resist gear for hydros ready so we took him down before solarian |
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| 05:30.45 | CIA-12 | GridStatusIncomingHeals: |
| 05:30.45 | CIA-12 | - Updated localization koKR |
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| 05:34.05 | CIA-12 | tekkub-wow: 03tekkub * r564 10/trunk/TourGuide/ (4 files in 2 dirs): TourGuide - And more ally guide data |
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| 05:56.30 | NightHawkTheSane | "You're just going to have to trust me, Doc. Trust me as far as I can throw you, actually." |
| 05:56.44 | CIA-12 | 03madrak * r50886 10ORLIC/ (15 files in 9 dirs): ORLIC: 2.2 TOC Update |
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| 06:01.00 | Diao | hm |
| 06:01.06 | Diao | i think cowtip broke something recently after latest update |
| 06:01.25 | Diao | tooltips that attach to it (tekkompare/enhtooltip) don't fade away when mousing away from the item |
| 06:01.29 | Diao | they're just permanently stuck to the mouse |
| 06:02.21 | Stanzilla2 | Diao: I till today thought it's a enhtooltip problem |
| 06:02.31 | Stanzilla2 | bug yeah I have that, too |
| 06:02.46 | Diao | well i had no problems |
| 06:02.54 | Diao | until i updated using WAU today |
| 06:03.04 | Diao | so it must be a wowace addon, the only tooltip related one i use is cowtip |
| 06:03.17 | Stanzilla2 | Diao: ping ckknight :D |
| 06:03.28 | ckknight | what's all this, then? |
| 06:03.48 | Stanzilla2 | for me, enhtooltips stay on the screen |
| 06:03.51 | ckknight | hrm |
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| 06:04.14 | ckknight | odd |
| 06:04.54 | CIA-12 | 03ckknight * r50887 10CowTip/ (Text/Text.lua embeds.xml libs/): CowTip - add LibRockComm-1.0 to libs, add a default Talent spec line to the Text module. |
| 06:05.01 | ckknight | (forgot to commit that) |
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| 06:05.40 | NimbleRabit | does cowtip work pretty well "out of the box" or does it require dogtap customization |
| 06:05.49 | CIA-12 | 03adirelle * r50888 10nQuestLog/locales/frFR.lua: nQuestLog: added some frFR locales (yet to be completed). |
| 06:06.00 | Diao | works well but you need to customize it yourself to make it look how you want |
| 06:06.07 | Grum | NimbleRabit: should work out of the box but ^^ |
| 06:06.22 | renchap | Diao: same problem |
| 06:06.40 | renchap | works well when cowtip is disabled |
| 06:06.48 | NimbleRabit | well like, pitbull has dogtag capabilities but it's works -great- without it |
| 06:06.53 | NimbleRabit | cowtip like that? |
| 06:06.58 | Diao | yep |
| 06:07.07 | Diao | i just didn't like how much screen real estate it took by default |
| 06:07.09 | Diao | so i compacted it a bit |
| 06:07.28 | NimbleRabit | mmmmm |
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| 06:08.22 | CIA-12 | 03sayclub * r50889 10IncomingHealsLib/IncomingHealsLib-1.0/IncomingHealsLib-1.0.lua: |
| 06:08.22 | CIA-12 | IncomingHealsLib: |
| 06:08.22 | CIA-12 | - Updated localization koKR |
| 06:09.36 | Stanzilla2 | ckknight: you can get the tooltips to disappear when you hover over a blank slot in your bags |
| 06:10.18 | Grum | Stanzilla2: that seems like a normal feature ? :D |
| 06:12.32 | Nerox | There anyone that can help me with a problem with ClearFonts2? I'm getting spammed with Errors and Kirkburn is afk :P |
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| 06:15.30 | Kirkburn|afk | Reinstall it? |
| 06:15.52 | Kirkburn|afk | What kind of errors? Did you edit it? |
| 06:15.59 | Kirkburn|afk | Do you have more than one version loaded? |
| 06:16.14 | Stanzilla2 | Grum: no, normaly the tooltips disappears when you mouseout |
| 06:16.20 | Stanzilla2 | in this case it stays |
| 06:16.26 | Stanzilla2 | even if you close your inventory |
| 06:17.05 | Grum | ah you meant: 'can you' .. instead of 'you can' |
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| 06:17.57 | Grum | but you basicly just want it to fade 'after some time' .. like normal |
| 06:18.05 | Grum | so it has nothing to do with an empty bagslot ^^ |
| 06:18.42 | Stanzilla2 | hm |
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| 06:20.13 | Grum | still a valid bugreport but now ckknight might know what to do :D |
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| 06:22.24 | Stanzilla2 | Grum: yeah sry^^ |
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| 06:32.24 | Gaffatape | hey |
| 06:32.35 | Gaffatape | any1 got a sec to give me a hand with ace2? |
| 06:33.12 | Gaffatape | it just wont show up in my wow addon list |
| 06:33.31 | buu | What won't show up? |
| 06:34.05 | Grum | why would you care if it was in that list? |
| 06:34.06 | Gaffatape | you know when u click on configure addons...it shows ur list of addons. Ive installed the latest version of all my mods..deleted my wtf folder and want to redo my ui |
| 06:34.16 | buu | And? |
| 06:34.18 | Gaffatape | none of the ace 2 mods are working |
| 06:34.30 | Grum | did you install with or without externals? |
| 06:34.37 | Gaffatape | and usually it shows up in the list that ace2 is actually installed |
| 06:34.57 | Grum | it usually doesnt using default settings and a sane person installing stuff |
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| 06:35.30 | Gaffatape | im assuming without? sorry ive a pretty basic knowledge of UI stuff...i pretty much download latest versions from curse gameing and just unzip into the interface folder |
| 06:35.49 | Grum | curse does *not* have the latest Ace2 version |
| 06:36.01 | Grum | unless they actually get it of this svn which i doubt |
| 06:36.05 | Grum | get your stuff on files.wowace.com |
| 06:36.15 | Gaffatape | i got the latest from http://files.wowace.com/ |
| 06:36.24 | Grum | or alternatively use WAU (wowaceupdate.sf.net) for something similar to install the addons for you |
| 06:36.34 | Gaffatape | hmm ill have another look again |
| 06:36.40 | Grum | so what did you download? |
| 06:36.56 | Gaffatape | Ace2-r50175 is the filename |
| 06:37.30 | Grum | and into which directory did you unpack it? |
| 06:38.09 | Gaffatape | world of warcraft\interface\addons\ace2 |
| 06:38.24 | Grum | and what directory is inside that Ace2 dir? |
| 06:39.01 | Gaffatape | all the stuff that came with the addon |
| 06:39.18 | Gaffatape | thers like...15 or so items in there |
| 06:39.23 | Grum | and do you get errors ingame? |
| 06:39.34 | Gaffatape | nope |
| 06:39.37 | Grum | because 'not showing up' can only mean 'you put it in the wrong place' |
| 06:39.41 | Gaffatape | yeah |
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| 06:39.52 | CIA-12 | 03helium * r50890 10Aloft/Aloft.toc: Aloft: bump toc to 20200 |
| 06:40.00 | Grum | did you exit the game before you checked the addon list? |
| 06:40.06 | Gaffatape | ya |
| 06:40.25 | Gaffatape | hmm ill just try putting my old ui back on |
| 06:40.29 | Gaffatape | and changeing it around |
| 06:40.33 | Gaffatape | see wat happens |
| 06:40.53 | Grum | next to that, why would you want to have the "Ace2" `addon` ? :) |
| 06:41.46 | Gaffatape | isnt it an external library for other mods? |
| 06:42.06 | Gaffatape | ie quartz and baggins are what i need it for mainly |
| 06:42.24 | Grum | you dont need to have it as a seperate addon unless you have the versions without externals |
| 06:42.30 | Ailleus | is there an addon to filter out smth from the combat log and show it as a message on screen? |
| 06:42.36 | Grum | which you will not have otherwise you would have known |
| 06:42.56 | Gaffatape | ahhhh k |
| 06:42.57 | Grum | Ailleus: i think addons like parrot should be able to add a custom filter |
| 06:43.11 | Ailleus | sct also? |
| 06:43.14 | Gaffatape | thanks for the help grum |
| 06:43.24 | Grum | Ailleus: dunno, check it yourself :D |
| 06:43.27 | Grum | i doubt it though |
| 06:44.06 | Ailleus | hmm ill try, tho i must admit im a lawyer not a programmer:X |
| 06:44.32 | Grum | just open up the config ingame and see if it can do it O.o |
| 06:44.53 | neenee | Your spelling is horrible though, but perhaps your native language is a different one. |
| 06:45.29 | Grum | it still works according to irc-norms ^^ |
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| 06:46.37 | Gaffatape | ahh awesome its all working correctly now |
| 06:46.58 | Grum | meaning: you deleted the Ace2 directory from your addons folder and your addons didn't break .. right? |
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| 06:47.46 | Grum | runs everyones runs! |
| 06:48.06 | Gaffatape | nope...deleted everything, put hte old mods on again..then installed hte new verions |
| 06:48.15 | Grum | O.o |
| 06:48.20 | Gaffatape | meh it mustve just been something lame with an out of date addon or something |
| 06:50.12 | Grum | you should always update em ^^ |
| 06:50.22 | Gaffatape | yeah |
| 06:50.27 | Gaffatape | full time work FTL |
| 06:50.34 | Gaffatape | hardly get time to play anymore |
| 06:50.44 | Grum | updating costs less than 10 seconds :D |
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| 07:00.07 | Ailleus | Parrot's rock confing is throwing errors |
| 07:00.21 | Grum | then you broke something ^^ |
| 07:00.24 | ckknight | gimme the error |
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| 07:00.58 | Ailleus | Error: attempt to index field '?' (a nil value)File: ...\Parrot\libs\LibRockConfig-1.0\LibRockConfig-1.0.luaLine: 2756Count: 1 |
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| 07:06.27 | CIA-12 | 03ckknight * r50891 10LibRockConfig-1.0/LibRockConfig-1.0.lua: LibRockConfig-1.0 - bugfix ...maybe |
| 07:06.50 | ckknight | hopefully fixes it |
| 07:07.31 | chexsum | why doesnt parrot allow target/focus buff fade and debuff fade triggers ? theyd be handy for showing when VE/shackle/sheep/etc runs out |
| 07:09.39 | Ailleus | il try |
| 07:10.57 | ckknight | chexsum: likely cause I never implemented em |
| 07:11.03 | Ackis | for doing a sorting on a table, is it better to resort the elements on the table (more work, but easier for me to deal with in other parts of code), or to keep an array where the sorted keys are? |
| 07:11.26 | chexsum | could you add them pls? |
| 07:11.45 | chexsum | target buff/debuff is there but the rest arent |
| 07:12.11 | Ackis | and depending on what the answer is I'll have a follow-up question lol |
| 07:12.34 | ckknight | Ackis: you can't sort dictionaries, only lists |
| 07:14.07 | ckknight | if you're trying to sort a dictionary, you make a list of keys and sort that |
| 07:14.45 | Ackis | yes, that's what I've done, I'm just wondering if I should rebuild it and overwrite the original one with new sorted data and through out the list of sorted keys |
| 07:15.37 | Ailleus | hmm i still have some errors, ill disable other addons and try then |
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| 07:16.20 | ckknight | Ackis: is the original table a dictionary or a list? |
| 07:16.49 | Ackis | i believe it's a dictionary (not 100% familiar with the term, but from what I googled I believe it is) |
| 07:16.58 | Ailleus | hmm without disableing ui i get the following: |
| 07:17.22 | Ailleus | Error: attempt to index local 'addon' (a string value)AddOn: ParrotFile: LibRock-1.0.luaLine: 2321Count: 1 |
| 07:17.29 | ckknight | Ackis: replacing the original table is pointless, as the order of dictionaries is arbitrary |
| 07:17.44 | ckknight | Ailleus: are you sure you're up to date? |
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| 07:17.53 | Ailleus | Error: attempt to index upvalue 'Parrot_TriggerConditions' (a nil value)AddOn: ParrotFile: Triggers.luaLine: 292Count: 1--------------------------------------------------Error: attempt to index upvalue 'Parrot_Display' (a nil value)AddOn: ParrotFile: CombatEvents.luaLine: 1628Count: 1 |
| 07:17.59 | Ailleus | well i just dled |
| 07:18.04 | Ailleus | didnt delete the old folder tho |
| 07:18.06 | Ackis | ok, so what I need to do then is keep the sorted indexes and then parse that to parse the sorted dictionary... thanks again CK |
| 07:18.11 | Ailleus | just copied over it |
| 07:18.13 | ckknight | only the first error is worth anything |
| 07:18.21 | Grum | yup |
| 07:18.54 | Ailleus | ill delete wtf settings + parrot, reinstall and see if anything happens |
| 07:19.33 | Keias | What was the dogtag for Talent specs? |
| 07:19.43 | Keias | Looked on the wiki page, but I can't find it |
| 07:19.45 | Hjalte | ckknight, go go pet incoming damage in parrot :) |
| 07:20.04 | ckknight | Keias: [TalentTree] and [TalentSpec] |
| 07:22.05 | CIA-12 | 03jerry * r50892 10Talented/other.lua: Talented: bugfix, switch to template mode before setting the just received template. |
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| 07:24.02 | Keias | thanks ckknight |
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| 07:25.52 | ckknight | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nNfQ0ORwSDM |
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| 07:26.41 | CIA-12 | 03ammo * r50893 10Cartographer1/ (27 files in 23 dirs): Cartographer1: Fix remainder of CartoAce references |
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| 07:28.51 | CIA-12 | 03ammo * r50894 10FuBar2/ (. FuBar_Panel.lua libs/): FuBar2: Fix remainder of FuBarAce references |
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| 07:29.50 | CIA-12 | 03ammo * r50895 10FuBar2/FuBar.toc.override: FuBar2: forgot a reference to fubarace |
| 07:30.41 | CIA-12 | 03ammo * r50896 10Cartographer1/Cartographer.override.toc: Cartographer1: last one I hope. |
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| 07:35.52 | orionshock | ckknight: did you see the thread about LocationFu? |
| 07:35.59 | ckknight | no |
| 07:37.01 | orionshock | last update to it switched some of the embeds.xml references around to where it didn't load the files correctly. tho i don't use this addon myself, i was wondering if you mind if i adjusted this |
| 07:37.54 | orionshock | http://fish.wowace.com/changelog/WowAce/trunk/FuBar_LocationFu?cs=50313 |
| 07:38.27 | CIA-12 | 03nargiddley 07Alpha * r50897 10Ace3/AceGUI-3.0/AceGUI-3.0.lua: |
| 07:38.27 | CIA-12 | Ace3 - AceGUI: |
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| 07:38.27 | CIA-12 | <PROTECTED> |
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| 07:46.06 | ckknight | orionshock: I trust you'll do what you think is right |
| 07:46.22 | Ailleus | Hmm, seems my caragropher is interfering somehow with parrot. Ill DL new version of it and try again |
| 07:46.50 | Stanzilla2 | Ailleus: just use WAU? |
| 07:47.24 | renchap | ckknight: i have a bug with parrot |
| 07:47.28 | renchap | i see pet damage |
| 07:47.34 | renchap | but iam a warrior, without pet |
| 07:47.39 | ckknight | I fixed that |
| 07:47.44 | renchap | ho, ok :) |
| 07:47.48 | CIA-12 | 03orionshock * r50898 10FuBar_LocationFu/embeds.xml: |
| 07:47.48 | CIA-12 | FuBar_LocationFu: |
| 07:47.48 | CIA-12 | -Change embeds.xml to match directory structure of lib folder. |
| 07:47.55 | chexsum | ckknight, can i add those extra triggers to the parrot code? target fades and focus auras/fades - i jut added them to my copy |
| 07:48.10 | ckknight | um, I gotta go right now |
| 07:48.17 | ckknight | make a patch, show it to someone I'd consider competent |
| 07:48.26 | ckknight | if he or she thinks it's okay, it should be fine |
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| 07:49.37 | CIA-12 | 03orionshock 07orionshock * r50899 10Hourglass2/Hourglass2/core.lua: |
| 07:49.37 | CIA-12 | Hourglass2: |
| 07:49.37 | CIA-12 | -add parrot to display out put.. tho for some reason i think this is handled by sinklib regardless. |
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| 07:52.50 | CIA-12 | 03ackis * r50900 10AckisRecipeList/AckisRecipeList.lua: |
| 07:52.50 | CIA-12 | AckisRecipeList: |
| 07:52.50 | CIA-12 | - Added sorting functionality for non-gui mode |
| 07:52.50 | CIA-12 | - Removed the reseting of variables from the main command function and moved it to when the window closes. This should let you scan the trade skill multiple times |
| 07:53.06 | Ackis | i am the master sorter! muhahahaha |
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| 08:03.55 | chexsum | http://pastebin.com/d25670a15 = patch for parrot to add some more triggers for someone who can apply it or let me apply it |
| 08:04.01 | CIA-12 | 03nargiddley 07Alpha * r50901 10Ace3/ (AceGUI-3.0/AceGUI-3.0.lua tests/AceGUITest/test.lua): |
| 08:04.01 | CIA-12 | Ace3 - AceGUI: |
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| 08:07.17 | orionshock | damn it.. i find the function in cart_notes that i think i need then reilize that i cant use it because it's got the wrong context... |
| 08:09.25 | Stanzilla2 | ~fail orionshock |
| 08:09.26 | purl | orionshock: Fail. |
| 08:09.39 | orionshock | ~lart Stanzilla2 |
| 08:09.40 | purl | gives Stanzilla2 a "free" copy of Windows and then charges double for "Upgrades" |
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| 08:11.21 | Stanzilla2 | lol |
| 08:11.31 | orionshock | finaly blackout-EU finishes scanning |
| 08:11.38 | Stanzilla2 | *strokes windows vista license* |
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| 08:15.29 | orionshock | ok .. off to do dailys... then BG |
| 08:15.51 | orionshock | horde is *FINALLY* winning AV |
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| 08:20.21 | CIA-12 | 03elkano * r50902 10Mendeleev/ (5 files in 2 dirs): Mendeleev: reverting to 49067; if you want vendor prices go for a separate addon |
| 08:20.35 | Fisker-- | no u Elkano |
| 08:20.55 | Elkano | NO U! |
| 08:21.05 | Srosh | Yes! Exactly my thoughts. Thanks. |
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| 08:22.53 | CIA-12 | 03orionshock * r50903 10FuBar_LocationFu/embeds.xml: |
| 08:22.53 | CIA-12 | FuBar_LocationFu: |
| 08:22.53 | CIA-12 | -Change embeds.xml to not puke on LibBabble-Spell's lib.xml file. |
| 08:22.53 | CIA-12 | -see Jira - LBAB-2 for more |
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| 08:24.35 | CIA-12 | 03tekkub * r50905 10FuBar_CorkFu/PeriodicTableMicro.lua: FuBar_CorkFu - bastard holiday minipetses |
| 08:24.38 | CIA-12 | 03next96 * r50904 10Cartographer1/Cartographer_Notes/Notes.lua: |
| 08:24.38 | CIA-12 | Cartographer1: |
| 08:24.38 | CIA-12 | - Update locale koKR |
| 08:26.24 | CIA-12 | tekkub-wow: 03tekkub * r565 10/trunk/Kennel/PeriodicTableMicro.lua: Kennel - more holiday minipetz |
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| 08:36.21 | CIA-12 | 03kandarz * r50906 10EveryQuest/ (EveryQuest.toc Everyquest.lua embeds.xml): EveryQuest: - bug fix, changing libraries to embeds.xml, changed toc to reflect |
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| 08:39.34 | Xinhuan | rofl |
| 08:39.36 | Xinhuan | http://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/loud_sex.png |
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| 08:39.42 | Xinhuan | this is so good |
| 08:40.27 | kandarz | yeah... |
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| 08:46.57 | cncfanatics | hello ppl |
| 08:47.03 | cncfanatics | man java lessons are boring |
| 08:47.39 | echos_ | why java? |
| 08:47.53 | cncfanatics | at school .... |
| 08:48.24 | QuantumDelta | aha |
| 08:48.31 | QuantumDelta | there you are |
| 08:48.42 | cncfanatics | who QuantumDelta ? |
| 08:48.46 | QuantumDelta | you |
| 08:48.53 | cncfanatics | wha ? whats up with me ? |
| 08:48.58 | QuantumDelta | your spreadsheet |
| 08:49.11 | QuantumDelta | the website went kaboomie :< |
| 08:49.18 | cncfanatics | hmmmz it did ? |
| 08:49.25 | Grum | we haxed it |
| 08:49.57 | QuantumDelta | someone posted a rapidshare of the file in a later post I think |
| 08:50.08 | cncfanatics | gonna reupload it |
| 08:50.15 | cncfanatics | i'm at school though, can't login in EJ |
| 08:50.23 | cncfanatics | so u post that the link is up again in the thread :) |
| 08:50.25 | QuantumDelta | no probs, thought you'd wanna know tho :P |
| 08:50.33 | QuantumDelta | oki ;) |
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| 08:52.05 | Marli | QuantumDelta killed my priest :( |
| 08:52.15 | *** part/#wowace Primer (n=vi@sh.nu) |
| 08:52.18 | cncfanatics | uploaded rapidshare thingy back to old rl |
| 08:52.19 | QuantumDelta | ./bonk marli |
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| 08:52.30 | cncfanatics | QuantumDelta, shld work again, I don't maintain it anymore thoughµ |
| 08:52.42 | QuantumDelta | you don't! |
| 08:52.46 | QuantumDelta | why not?! |
| 08:52.50 | cncfanatics | QuantumDelta, been busy with FB, and rerolled |
| 08:52.59 | QuantumDelta | flexbar? |
| 08:53.00 | cncfanatics | my pala's server is deadish and transfer is on cd |
| 08:53.04 | cncfanatics | yea flexbar |
| 08:53.08 | QuantumDelta | how's it coming? |
| 08:53.12 | cncfanatics | stable ;) |
| 08:53.16 | QuantumDelta | lol :P |
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| 08:53.39 | cncfanatics | well, still lacks features I want in, but the stuff thats in (most stuff) works perfectly |
| 08:53.53 | cncfanatics | http://wowace.com/wiki/FlexBar2 |
| 08:53.54 | cryogen | flexbar ftw! |
| 08:54.02 | cncfanatics | any bugs cryogen ? :) |
| 08:54.08 | cryogen | no new ones |
| 08:54.17 | cryogen | just the autoattack thing annoys me, which isnt your fault |
| 08:54.27 | cncfanatics | crap blizz |
| 08:54.29 | cryogen | im thinking about taking up alchemy to work around it :D |
| 08:54.36 | [Ammo] | !api GetWorldStateUIInfo |
| 08:54.41 | cncfanatics | cryogen |
| 08:54.42 | cncfanatics | make a macro |
| 08:54.46 | cncfanatics | <PROTECTED> |
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| 08:54.53 | cncfanatics | and put it in the button for attacing |
| 08:54.55 | cryogen | and bind that instead? |
| 08:54.56 | cncfanatics | attacking* |
| 08:55.02 | cryogen | k |
| 08:55.14 | cryogen | can i make a clever macro that starts or stops it depending on whether i am already o rnot? |
| 08:55.28 | cncfanatics | :unsure: |
| 08:55.34 | cncfanatics | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:55.35 | cncfanatics | try that |
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| 08:57.09 | cryogen | the greenred hilights on buttons are cool though |
| 08:57.17 | cryogen | i just wish i had enough imgination to make a decent layout |
| 08:57.18 | cncfanatics | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:57.19 | CIA-12 | 03ackis * r50907 10AckisRecipeList/ (5 files): |
| 08:57.19 | CIA-12 | AckisRecipeList: |
| 08:57.20 | CIA-12 | - Started localization |
| 08:57.20 | CIA-12 | - Added Babble Tradeskill and Faction |
| 08:57.30 | cncfanatics | I shld make a module to show time remaining on buffs with a sub |
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| 08:57.45 | cncfanatics | but no tim :p |
| 08:57.48 | cncfanatics | time* |
| 08:57.55 | cncfanatics | u can do that if u want, subs are ez :p |
| 08:58.09 | cryogen | hehe |
| 08:58.17 | cryogen | perhaps! |
| 08:58.38 | renchap | Ackis: can i use AckisRecipeList with frFr client ? |
| 08:58.43 | cncfanatics | just check the examples in Action/Textsubs.lua |
| 08:59.24 | cryogen | going to get bear form tonight though, rawr |
| 08:59.31 | cryogen | maybe i can slack at work and drycode something |
| 08:59.38 | cncfanatics | hmmmz |
| 08:59.50 | cncfanatics | If u get fearie fire (feral) |
| 08:59.54 | cncfanatics | tell me if it worksµ |
| 09:00.00 | cncfanatics | cuz the brackets seem to bug it |
| 09:00.05 | cryogen | dont get that for a while, btu sure |
| 09:01.20 | cncfanatics | any druids with fearie fire (feral) or mange (bear) / mangle (cat) ? |
| 09:01.31 | cncfanatics | need one for testing :) |
| 09:04.12 | kandarz | oh hi |
| 09:04.17 | kandarz | I play a baer |
| 09:04.30 | cncfanatics | kandarz, could you help me a second ? |
| 09:04.49 | kandarz | do I need to pull fb2 from svn? or will wau work |
| 09:04.54 | cncfanatics | wau will work |
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| 09:05.19 | cncfanatics | I'll guide u to what u got to do, ok ? |
| 09:05.19 | kandarz | kk |
| 09:05.30 | chexsum | faerie fire caused my combat alerts addon problems too |
| 09:06.22 | cncfanatics | kandarz, tell me when its installd :) |
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| 09:06.28 | cryogen | what's the svn path? |
| 09:06.34 | cncfanatics | for FB ? |
| 09:06.36 | chexsum | i think it fires 2 events or something |
| 09:06.41 | cryogen | for anything, but yeah for fb |
| 09:07.22 | kandarz | should probably disable bt3 huh |
| 09:07.29 | cncfanatics | shldnt matter kandarz |
| 09:07.44 | cncfanatics | ur on ? |
| 09:07.48 | kandarz | ya |
| 09:08.14 | cncfanatics | <PROTECTED> |
| 09:08.27 | kandarz | k |
| 09:08.35 | cncfanatics | now, put fearie fire (feral), mange (cat) and mange(bear) on those |
| 09:08.41 | cncfanatics | mangle* |
| 09:08.58 | kandarz | alright |
| 09:08.59 | cncfanatics | done ? |
| 09:08.59 | chexsum | faerie |
| 09:09.05 | cncfanatics | <PROTECTED> |
| 09:09.11 | cncfanatics | now check if those 3 buttons work |
| 09:09.47 | kandarz | lemme go kill something |
| 09:09.56 | the-golem | lol |
| 09:10.33 | kandarz | seams to work |
| 09:10.36 | cncfanatics | make sure to use the fb one and not bt ones |
| 09:10.43 | kandarz | ya |
| 09:10.46 | kandarz | clicking the fb buttons |
| 09:10.49 | cncfanatics | ok, then i'm happy , cheers :) |
| 09:10.52 | cncfanatics | tooltips & stuff work too ? |
| 09:11.00 | kandarz | ya |
| 09:11.04 | cncfanatics | goodie :) |
| 09:11.15 | cryogen | ~notepad2 |
| 09:11.25 | cncfanatics | cryogen, get gvim :p |
| 09:11.30 | cryogen | can anyone link me to the notepad2 version with the lua thingy? |
| 09:11.34 | cryogen | nah not on my work pc :p |
| 09:11.44 | cryogen | or, maybe |
| 09:12.24 | chexsum | i use scite from http://www.scintilla.org |
| 09:13.59 | cncfanatics | kandarz, thanks |
| 09:14.04 | kandarz | np |
| 09:14.24 | QuantumDelta | btw cncfanatics |
| 09:14.35 | QuantumDelta | I was fiddling about with a tanking macro for warriors last night |
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| 09:14.45 | QuantumDelta | basically reduces the important spammed tanking abilities to two buttons |
| 09:15.01 | cncfanatics | sigh |
| 09:15.03 | QuantumDelta | was considering the same is probably possible for us? |
| 09:15.14 | kanzie | Im looking for a way to save info from the game to a textfile, is this possible with LUA in WOW or is it only possible inside the sandbox-environment of wow? |
| 09:15.14 | cncfanatics | probably , its pretty basic |
| 09:15.18 | Dezzimal | did someone dick with pitbull's ability to split buff/debuff positions? |
| 09:15.22 | cncfanatics | but why would u do that ? spoils the fun of an already not so hard thing |
| 09:15.26 | QuantumDelta | Cuz I raid lead |
| 09:15.29 | Dezzimal | I checked the "split" box |
| 09:15.40 | Dezzimal | but theres no way to tell it where to put the buffs/debuffs |
| 09:15.43 | QuantumDelta | getting the best rotation out of my abilities isn't what I want to be focusing on during a raid :P |
| 09:16.17 | kandarz | tanking is hard on a bare, mangle, lacerate, maul, over and over again |
| 09:16.33 | QuantumDelta | it's not hard on a paladin either |
| 09:16.43 | QuantumDelta | but I do lose TPS due to worry about 24 other people |
| 09:16.46 | chexsum | i just set pitbull up today with split buffs/debuffs |
| 09:17.00 | kebinusan | I keep getting dc'd alot while zoning, any ideas |
| 09:17.08 | kanzie | Does anyone know how savedVariables are stored in the filesystem? Garbled, compressed or as plaintext? |
| 09:17.08 | Dezzimal | chexsum: with the shitty rock config? |
| 09:17.12 | kebinusan | into instances/bgs mostly |
| 09:17.13 | Dezzimal | what a piece of trash |
| 09:17.23 | chexsum | yea |
| 09:17.36 | Dezzimal | I'm under Target -> Other -> Auras right now |
| 09:17.45 | Arrowmaster | if you have a problem with it then make suggestions |
| 09:17.49 | Dezzimal | and theres no option to change the location of my buffs/debuffs when I have them split |
| 09:17.58 | kebinusan | Dezzimal: feel free to write your own |
| 09:18.02 | Arrowmaster | or that |
| 09:18.09 | chexsum | for some reason a lot of it gets greyed out sometimes |
| 09:18.13 | Dezzimal | oh please cut that out lol |
| 09:18.43 | Dezzimal | there it is |
| 09:18.45 | orionshock | Dezzimal: under auras you have the check for split right? |
| 09:18.54 | kandarz | def works for me |
| 09:18.54 | Dezzimal | doesn't show up till you reload the configuration screen |
| 09:18.59 | kandarz | and I just updated |
| 09:19.01 | Dezzimal | I had to tick Split |
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| 09:19.03 | Dezzimal | close rock |
| 09:19.05 | Dezzimal | open rock |
| 09:19.10 | art3mis | http://www.gothi.ca/Stuff/hello-kitty-ween.jpg |
| 09:19.20 | orionshock | Dezzimal: i just checked it and the "side" option appeared in the list. |
| 09:19.20 | Dezzimal | and the Side thing showed up in the menu on the left |
| 09:19.25 | Stanzilla2 | Dezzimal: http://jira.wowace.com/secure/CreateIssue!default.jspa |
| 09:19.26 | Dezzimal | didn't for me |
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| 09:19.33 | Arrowmaster | report as a bug on jira then please |
| 09:20.11 | orionshock | Arrowmaster: tbh ck didn't put any REAL debug code into rock config.. so it's hard to report an error that you can't find or reproduce. |
| 09:20.33 | orionshock | <PROTECTED> |
| 09:20.53 | Dezzimal | What is a mirror bar anyway? |
| 09:20.56 | Dezzimal | curious |
| 09:20.57 | Arrowmaster | well letting him know that such an error exists atleast helps |
| 09:21.04 | orionshock | true |
| 09:21.14 | Arrowmaster | mirror bar is the breath bar |
| 09:21.15 | orionshock | Dezzimal: mirror bar is for things like breath while under water |
| 09:21.20 | Dezzimal | aha. |
| 09:21.22 | Dezzimal | ok |
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| 09:23.40 | Ailleus | bah as soon as i add cart or parrot wow stops responding when loading it |
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| 09:24.36 | Dezzimal | quartz is pretty sexy I must say though |
| 09:25.43 | kanzie | Where can I go to discuss wow-Lua issues? |
| 09:26.22 | orionshock | prolly here but there isn't like an official channle, maybe the wowi-lounge |
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| 09:31.06 | syeren | ckknight! |
| 09:33.23 | syeren | New CowTip change is impressive, just wondering how the hell it works :p |
| 09:33.44 | Stanzilla2 | which one? |
| 09:34.56 | syeren | It puts people's talent specs in the Tooltip. |
| 09:35.07 | orionshock | it's been around for a while |
| 09:35.07 | syeren | Wondering how it gets hold of them. |
| 09:35.11 | Stanzilla2 | oh yea that one's cool |
| 09:35.18 | syeren | Oh, how does it work orionshock? |
| 09:35.18 | cncfanatics | via RockComm |
| 09:35.27 | syeren | How is the data getting to RockComm then :P? |
| 09:35.31 | cncfanatics | RockComm sends out spec if someone asks for it |
| 09:35.35 | syeren | It's only giving certain people's at the moment. |
| 09:35.38 | ckknight | hey all, back |
| 09:35.43 | cncfanatics | yo ckknight |
| 09:35.47 | ckknight | dropped my parents off at the airport |
| 09:35.54 | cncfanatics | :o, where they going to ? |
| 09:35.59 | ckknight | syeren: it communicates with other people who have RockComm |
| 09:36.02 | ckknight | cncfanatics: Canada |
| 09:36.07 | ckknight | vacation |
| 09:36.09 | cncfanatics | :o |
| 09:36.24 | orionshock | syeren: it's a "synch" method... re: what ckknight said |
| 09:36.40 | syeren | Ah, nice :d |
| 09:36.46 | ckknight | syeren: works through a ping-pong system |
| 09:36.48 | CIA-12 | 03helium * r50908 10Babble-2.2/ (2 files in 2 dirs): |
| 09:36.48 | CIA-12 | Babble-2.2: |
| 09:36.48 | CIA-12 | - Race: updated zhTW localization |
| 09:36.48 | CIA-12 | - Tradeskill: updated zhTW localization |
| 09:36.58 | orionshock | "A George Orwell'en idea" |
| 09:37.31 | Elkano | syeren, if you have RockComm installed anyone that also uses RockComm can send you a query requesting your talents, your addons, ... |
| 09:38.39 | cncfanatics | not in arena though |
| 09:38.46 | cncfanatics | rockcomm wont send out anyone's spec if they're in arena |
| 09:38.47 | ckknight | Orwellian |
| 09:38.59 | ckknight | or if you disable it in the config |
| 09:39.02 | orionshock | ;D |
| 09:39.05 | ckknight | which you can |
| 09:39.26 | kandarz | i r in ur addonz spyin on u'z |
| 09:39.40 | orionshock | lol |
| 09:39.43 | Elkano | well you can't ask cross-faction anyways, can you? |
| 09:39.53 | orionshock | Elkano: no |
| 09:40.10 | Elkano | so why disable it in arena? |
| 09:40.19 | Xinhuan | same faction arena |
| 09:40.23 | cncfanatics | arena ain't only crossfaction ? |
| 09:41.27 | ckknight | best not to give an unfair advantage, I say |
| 09:41.50 | CIA-12 | 03ammo * r50909 10BigWigs/Hyjal/HyjalSummit.lua: BigWigs: add untested Hyjal Summit wavetimers based on BigWigs_WaveTimers with some modifications. Not in .toc yet, needs testing. |
| 09:42.04 | ckknight | granted, if they're smart, they'll use Tattle or something like it anyway |
| 09:42.19 | Elkano | ah, right ^^ |
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| 09:42.21 | baer_ | moin. |
| 09:42.44 | Elkano | well, unless they respect shortly ago we have tattle/armory |
| 09:43.24 | ckknight | yea |
| 09:43.41 | orionshock | and both have their drawbacks ... |
| 09:45.09 | Hjalte | It's a shame that [Ammo] is against sharing the talents, because it would be obvious to support in something like oRA2. |
| 09:45.36 | orionshock | too much orwell and we don't have a game anymore... |
| 09:45.37 | Grum | we can just make an additional addon for that ^^ |
| 09:46.14 | Hjalte | orionshock, I see it purely as a service - how does it weaken your play experience to know someone elses talents? |
| 09:46.16 | ckknight | orionshock: um, I don't see how |
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| 09:46.41 | orionshock | sorry better said , too much Orwell and people freek out... |
| 09:46.58 | orionshock | dailies and irc.... so im slightly afk |
| 09:47.01 | Elkano | well, I'm with ammo on thisone |
| 09:47.18 | cncfanatics | I don't see why you care as you can disable it anyway |
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| 09:47.34 | Hjalte | It's a video game! I know that many people take it very seriously, including myself, but talking about Orwell and Big Brother culture might seem a bit off.. Imho. |
| 09:47.42 | Elkano | have an addon where you can choose what to share with whom, OK, but forcing it on people via a lib that hase an other base purpose isn't a good idea imho |
| 09:47.45 | Dezzimal | quartz's flight timers...is that for things like arrows/fireballs? |
| 09:48.06 | Hjalte | Dezzimal: No, when you take flights from flight points |
| 09:48.07 | NimbleRabit | flightpaths |
| 09:48.23 | Dezzimal | oh? |
| 09:48.26 | Elkano | it's like buying an answering machin that will also tell people where you live and such without you speaking this stuff on the tape willingly |
| 09:48.29 | Dezzimal | not seeing any display or anything |
| 09:48.42 | NimbleRabit | you need to have another mod |
| 09:48.43 | NimbleRabit | mmmm |
| 09:48.45 | orionshock | Hjalte: for the sane and rational , yes... but in the wild you do not find that often |
| 09:48.58 | cryogen | putting stuff in a framework JUST because its a framework and abusing that fact, is a pretty shitty thing to do |
| 09:49.01 | cryogen | but im not going to cry about it |
| 09:49.11 | NimbleRabit | Dezzimal: you need to have InFlight installed |
| 09:49.25 | CIA-12 | 03Leialyn * r50910 10LibDogTag-2.0/LibDogTag-2.0.lua: LibDogTag-2.0 - deDE update |
| 09:49.27 | Dezzimal | I see |
| 09:49.29 | orionshock | but me thinks that the main complaint is that it's as cryogen said, in the framework, imho it should be moved into dog tag |
| 09:49.41 | Dezzimal | not goona install that :/ |
| 09:50.08 | NimbleRabit | if you don't want an addon to tell you time on flightpaths, that's why quartz doesn't come with it by default =P |
| 09:50.11 | Hjalte | I have nothing on my character that I would like to hide - And with Armoury, I can't hide it anyway. I don't see how it hurts anyone to show these informations ingame. A toggle is fine though. |
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| 09:50.26 | cryogen | orionshock: actually it *should* be in a LibTellPeopleStuffAboutMe or something |
| 09:50.31 | cncfanatics | there's a toggle :) |
| 09:50.32 | cryogen | which im sure some people would actually like to install |
| 09:50.37 | orionshock | cryogen: lol |
| 09:50.46 | cryogen | cncfanatics: unless the default is off, a toggle is irrelevant |
| 09:50.52 | orionshock | imho, i agree with ckknight on this, it should be a game API instead |
| 09:51.15 | ckknight | and for you privacy nuts, it's very easy to opt-out of |
| 09:51.24 | cryogen | armoury isnt live though |
| 09:51.28 | cryogen | a game api sure would be |
| 09:51.36 | cncfanatics | well, then toggle it off |
| 09:51.40 | NimbleRabit | I would live actually being able to see info about people without having to go to armory |
| 09:51.51 | ckknight | yea, alt-tabbing is lame |
| 09:51.52 | ckknight | takes too long |
| 09:51.58 | ckknight | and Blizz's AJAX can suck my balls |
| 09:52.01 | Gagorian- | and armory is too slow |
| 09:52.09 | ckknight | yea |
| 09:52.12 | ckknight | hence the ball-sucking |
| 09:53.15 | mikma | ckknight: windowed mode rocks your cocks |
| 09:53.27 | ckknight | yea, I play in windowed mode |
| 09:53.30 | ckknight | what's your point? |
| 09:53.31 | Dezzimal | yea windowed mode ftw |
| 09:53.38 | cncfanatics | virtual desktops > windowed |
| 09:53.39 | ckknight | alt-tabbing is tedious, armory is slow |
| 09:53.40 | NimbleRabit | alt-tab then going to armory and waiting for all the loading there |
| 09:53.43 | NimbleRabit | is still really slow |
| 09:53.44 | NimbleRabit | and annoying |
| 09:53.46 | kandarz | blizz's ajax can still suck my balls too |
| 09:53.47 | mikma | point is then you don't have to alt-tab lololooo |
| 09:53.53 | mikma | and that you have cocks |
| 09:54.00 | ckknight | I have but one cock |
| 09:54.04 | Elkano | well, if they'd put in into their own API I wouldn't care, but I think it doesn't belong into a comm lib |
| 09:55.17 | Trell_ | wow, its been nearly 24h and the rockcomm debate is still raging? |
| 09:55.28 | Grum | Trell_: found any more broken stuffies? |
| 09:55.29 | NimbleRabit | I'm having a wierd problem where sometimes I can't right click on the map to zoom out |
| 09:55.30 | kandarz | llol, tried changing rock config scale and I get error 132 |
| 09:55.35 | Hjalte | Elkano, you don't want to wait with all the good stuff until Blizzard gets their stuff together and gets it included in the API >.< |
| 09:55.41 | Trell_ | not yet grum, i used it for hours yesterday and loved it |
| 09:55.47 | Grum | good |
| 09:55.53 | Trell_ | you need to get it to avoid hills and lakes for my alts, damn you |
| 09:55.56 | kandarz | ckknight, can you make it so changing scale only changes on mouse up |
| 09:55.57 | Trell_ | ^^ |
| 09:56.00 | Grum | hahah |
| 09:56.08 | Grum | i might O.o .. but no .. i will not .. EVAR |
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| 09:56.37 | cncfanatics | actualy, blizz only includes good stuff after someone made it |
| 09:56.42 | cncfanatics | and they see it being used widely |
| 09:56.51 | kandarz | like sct |
| 09:56.53 | cncfanatics | yea |
| 09:57.02 | cryogen | yeah, stuff people OPT to use |
| 09:57.11 | cncfanatics | toggle it off : |
| 09:57.12 | cryogen | not stuff thats gets silently forced on them :p |
| 09:57.18 | cncfanatics | such a feature is only useful if everyone uses it |
| 09:58.27 | ckknight | kandarz: ah, no |
| 09:59.59 | orionshock | cryogen / cncfanatics enough .... problem was solved... pissing contest over |
| 10:00.32 | cryogen | i beg to differ |
| 10:00.44 | kandarz | pissing is a needed daily occurance |
| 10:01.20 | orionshock | said pissing contest, not measuring challenge ... in witch case you'd loose |
| 10:01.43 | orionshock | :P |
| 10:01.48 | cryogen | well, i do kinda need to get it out to piss with it |
| 10:02.05 | orionshock | >.> not going to comment |
| 10:02.18 | Trell_ | please can someone tell me why a font I added to CF2 is showing (for selection in addons) on my main and one other character, but my other alts it refuses to allow me to select it. |
| 10:02.25 | cryogen | pissing into my pants would just ruin the distance :) |
| 10:02.53 | orionshock | trell, fubar'ed sv? |
| 10:03.16 | Trell_ | what do you mean |
| 10:03.17 | cryogen | cncfanatics: can you show me some example usage from TextSub? |
| 10:03.44 | cncfanatics | http://svn.wowace.com/wowace/trunk/FlexBar2/Action/TextSubs.lua |
| 10:03.48 | cryogen | yeah |
| 10:03.49 | cryogen | USAGE :p |
| 10:04.00 | cryogen | oh |
| 10:04.02 | cryogen | right |
| 10:04.06 | cryogen | im looking at the wrong thing |
| 10:04.17 | cncfanatics | that'll show u how to register new textsubs |
| 10:04.19 | cncfanatics | i thats what u mean |
| 10:04.20 | orionshock | Trell_: i was guessing. |
| 10:04.22 | cryogen | ta |
| 10:04.24 | cryogen | it is, ye |
| 10:04.32 | cryogen | i was looking at TextSubs/TextSubs.lua :p |
| 10:04.51 | cncfanatics | thats where I make the API :p |
| 10:04.56 | cncfanatics | doesnt actualy declare any subs |
| 10:05.00 | cryogen | YEAH |
| 10:05.02 | cryogen | oops |
| 10:05.03 | cncfanatics | now, java lesson over, logging out |
| 10:05.06 | cryogen | yeah, hence me asking :) |
| 10:05.12 | cryogen | hf! |
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| 10:05.59 | cryogen | (in your defense you did point me here earlier, im just retarded and picked the wrong one) |
| 10:07.26 | Trell_ | meh theyve hotfixed out the dark iron attacks? |
| 10:07.29 | Trell_ | bastards |
| 10:07.38 | cryogen | is the res bug fixed? |
| 10:08.07 | Trell_ | no idea, just reading mmo champ before logging in |
| 10:08.26 | Trell_ | i like ot be prepared each day for the wonders that are blizz's hotfixes |
| 10:08.29 | Trell_ | *to |
| 10:08.36 | cryogen | :) |
| 10:08.41 | orionshock | <3 jira... so many stupid people.. |
| 10:08.49 | orionshock | but alas my only improvement http://jira.wowace.com/browse/CART-134 |
| 10:09.57 | CIA-12 | 03warloxx * r50911 10GameLobby_ConnectFour/: |
| 10:09.57 | CIA-12 | GameLobby_ConnectFour: initial commit |
| 10:09.57 | CIA-12 | - ConnectFour game for the GameLobby. |
| 10:10.21 | NimbleRabit | nowai |
| 10:10.26 | NimbleRabit | connect 4 is full of win |
| 10:10.26 | Trell_ | wows |
| 10:10.35 | phyber | needs more Multiplayer Bomberman clone, tbh. |
| 10:10.49 | phyber | fun for dead people in raids. |
| 10:11.01 | Trell_ | bomberman is awesome. |
| 10:11.12 | NimbleRabit | me and my friends play chess in raids most of the time |
| 10:11.14 | Trell_ | as is that tank game on the wii - the one with wii play |
| 10:11.26 | Trell_ | i play that more than any of the 'real' games ive got for it :X |
| 10:11.49 | NimbleRabit | so did you guys hear checkers got "solved"? |
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| 10:12.12 | Trell_ | solved? |
| 10:12.17 | orionshock | NimbleRabit: checkers has prolly been solved for quite some time now |
| 10:12.44 | NimbleRabit | Trell_: a computer can win or draw vs anybody every time no matter what |
| 10:12.58 | Trell_ | hax |
| 10:13.16 | NimbleRabit | orionshock: perhaps, I just now learned about it |
| 10:13.38 | Trell_ | what the flock |
| 10:13.47 | Trell_ | now the 'bark' quests arent even available to be picked up |
| 10:14.05 | Trell_ | but the pink elekk one is |
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| 10:16.55 | CIA-12 | 03warloxx * r50912 10GameLobby_ConnectFour/ (. ConnectFour.lua GameLobby_ConnectFour.toc chip.tga): |
| 10:16.55 | CIA-12 | GameLobby_ConnectFour: |
| 10:16.55 | CIA-12 | - setting properties |
| 10:16.55 | CIA-12 | - uploading files |
| 10:21.15 | Stanzilla2 | http://www.quizgalaxy.com/quiz.php?id=56 |
| 10:21.23 | Stanzilla2 | posts result here :D |
| 10:21.25 | Stanzilla2 | -s |
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| 10:24.49 | Trell_ | just delivered 10 barrels; my best yet I think |
| 10:25.38 | Grum | you can do more than 3? O.o |
| 10:26.10 | baer_ | Trell_: 10 barrels? oO |
| 10:26.12 | CIA-12 | 03pheredhel * r50913 10CCBreaker/ (. CCBreaker.lua embeds.xml): |
| 10:26.12 | CIA-12 | CCBreaker |
| 10:26.12 | CIA-12 | -added missing Dewdrop embed |
| 10:26.12 | CIA-12 | -removing Bable-Class (not needed now) |
| 10:26.12 | CIA-12 | -drycoded |
| 10:26.15 | baer_ | you definately pwn. |
| 10:26.17 | Grum | it seems brewfest is bugged on our server , no half-our-dark-iron-people raids :( |
| 10:26.24 | baer_ | my best was 6. |
| 10:26.47 | Elkano | Grum, haven't they been deactivated by hotfix? |
| 10:27.09 | Grum | they are? |
| 10:27.21 | baer_ | not yet on EU-servers at least. |
| 10:27.28 | Grum | there were on eu.doomhammer |
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| 10:27.59 | Orphis | Hi |
| 10:28.03 | baer_ | barking for the beer-guys doesn't work either. |
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| 10:28.25 | Orphis | Has BigWigs been updated for the 2.2 Solarian ? |
| 10:28.27 | Trell_ | yeah the barking quests are STILL bugged |
| 10:28.30 | Trell_ | bastards |
| 10:28.34 | kandarz | Orphis, yes |
| 10:28.41 | Trell_ | baer_ you know theres 2 apple tubs right? |
| 10:29.00 | Trell_ | one after the bridge and one past the barrel throwing guy in kharanos |
| 10:29.16 | Trell_ | the end one you can loop round before galloping back, allows you to be galloping pretty much all the time |
| 10:29.54 | baer_ | Trell_: actually yes. |
| 10:30.05 | baer_ | but the time is rather short. |
| 10:30.31 | orionshock | >.> |
| 10:30.34 | Trell_ | you get extra time for each one you deliver |
| 10:30.57 | orionshock | cart Vendor makes a lib reference to Tablet ... and then never uses it..? |
| 10:31.06 | orionshock | wth? |
| 10:31.14 | baer_ | Trell_: looks like i have to try harder. :-} |
| 10:31.35 | baer_ | btw, anyone got > 600 tix by now? |
| 10:31.44 | Trell_ | yeah erm someone in here |
| 10:31.45 | baer_ | i'm curious about the new mount. |
| 10:31.59 | Stanzilla2 | orionshock: fix it |
| 10:32.05 | orionshock | bout to |
| 10:32.10 | Trell_ | BlackVelvet |
| 10:32.12 | Trell_ | I think |
| 10:32.53 | Trell_ | goggles and mount in 6 hours |
| 10:33.11 | Trell_ | he/she was just doing the dark iron event every hour, hit 25 on the buff, handed it in, then carried on doing it |
| 10:33.41 | Trell_ | but its been disabled now, which is annoying cos I was gonna do it :X |
| 10:33.53 | Dezzimal | yeah :( |
| 10:34.01 | Dezzimal | I'm at 250 tickets at the moment |
| 10:34.10 | Dezzimal | had to take off for class at 8am |
| 10:34.35 | CIA-12 | 03orionshock * r50914 10Cartographer_Vendors/ (. Cartographer_Vendors.toc addon.lua embeds.xml): |
| 10:34.35 | CIA-12 | Cartographer_Vendors |
| 10:34.35 | CIA-12 | -Adjust Externals & embeds.xml, add Babble-Zone-2.2 |
| 10:34.35 | CIA-12 | -Removed stray reference to Tablet lib that is never used. |
| 10:34.35 | CIA-12 | -Updated toc to reflect embedded libs. |
| 10:34.47 | orionshock | it shouldn't brake anything :D |
| 10:34.59 | [Ammo] | anyone here have plans of going to mt hyjal shortly? |
| 10:35.14 | neenee | Something funny I uploaded: http://video.tinypic.com/player.php?v=2qb98it&s=2 |
| 10:35.33 | QuantumDelta | I know a few people who will be in a few hours ammo |
| 10:35.46 | QuantumDelta | what's up? |
| 10:35.58 | [Ammo] | I added wave timers to bigwigs proper based of BigWigs_WaveTimers |
| 10:36.10 | [Ammo] | with more intelligent enabling etc |
| 10:36.13 | neenee | Why wave timers? |
| 10:36.25 | [Ammo] | mt hyjal waves |
| 10:36.28 | neenee | er okay |
| 10:36.31 | [Ammo] | start boss event, you get bars |
| 10:36.39 | [Ammo] | I need to fix up BlackMorass in a similar way |
| 10:36.40 | neenee | Ah. Never heard of that, but then again, I'm no raider |
| 10:36.42 | [Ammo] | it's fucked up atm |
| 10:36.42 | orionshock | jira stupid report of the day: http://jira.wowace.com/browse/CART-132 |
| 10:36.45 | QuantumDelta | hmm |
| 10:36.52 | QuantumDelta | I'll see if I can't find a guild that's not killed him yesterday |
| 10:37.07 | [Ammo] | it's not in the .toc yet |
| 10:37.09 | m4rku5 | ammo you talking about the timers for the waves of the first hyjal boss ? |
| 10:37.13 | QuantumDelta | my guild has al'ar (9%) solarian and kael left before we get in there :< |
| 10:37.15 | [Ammo] | not only first boss |
| 10:37.17 | [Ammo] | every boss |
| 10:37.21 | QuantumDelta | oh |
| 10:37.22 | QuantumDelta | nice |
| 10:37.31 | QuantumDelta | that case I'll poke some peeps for ya this evening |
| 10:37.36 | m4rku5 | ammo well if we kill kael today |
| 10:37.42 | m4rku5 | we could do some testing or w/e you need |
| 10:37.45 | [Ammo] | they have to add it to the .toc though |
| 10:37.58 | [Ammo] | it should work |
| 10:38.06 | [Ammo] | I changed barely any logic from WaveTimers |
| 10:38.11 | [Ammo] | but I dunno if it enables correctly |
| 10:38.15 | QuantumDelta | what do you do you throw in the toc line? |
| 10:38.22 | [Ammo] | HyjalSummit.lua |
| 10:38.31 | m4rku5 | so tehres no need to get BigWigs_WaveTimers if you change the toc ? |
| 10:38.36 | [Ammo] | indeed |
| 10:39.02 | QuantumDelta | I'll chat to'em when I get back from town |
| 10:39.33 | [Ammo] | enUS localization only atm |
| 10:40.28 | QuantumDelta | ah |
| 10:40.31 | QuantumDelta | might be a problem then ;) |
| 10:40.55 | m4rku5 | ammo we have some players using enGB i guess that sould do it ;) |
| 10:41.02 | [Ammo] | that would work fine |
| 10:41.13 | m4rku5 | i _might_ be able to provide deDE translation later |
| 10:41.46 | [Ammo] | I could just add it to the .toc and let it blow up in the face of people but I decided against that without testing |
| 10:42.15 | m4rku5 | but its 12:40pm here we start raiding in erm 5hours and not sure if we go to hyjal today but if we go Ill have everyone with enGB client update bigwigs and then well go test that ;) |
| 10:42.22 | Hjalte | [Ammo]: Faaaiireworkz! |
| 10:43.09 | [Ammo] | I could probably test it myself |
| 10:43.12 | [Ammo] | but I'm at work |
| 10:43.15 | [Ammo] | so can't enter Hyjal atm :) |
| 10:43.58 | Ailleus | where to pick older versions of ace2 addons? |
| 10:44.02 | m4rku5 | erm anyone know if JWowUpdater is broken ? cant update right now sais it cant connect to wowace |
| 10:44.16 | [Ammo] | Ailleus: file.wowace.com/<addonname>/ |
| 10:44.26 | [Ammo] | s/file/files/ |
| 10:44.32 | Kazie | Ailleus: Why do you want out-of-date addons? |
| 10:45.06 | Ailleus | for some reason cant get parrot working. I know it is but some other addons are interfering with it |
| 10:45.40 | Kazie | Does an pvp addon exist that plays a sound - like UT2k4 - whenever you kill an enemy? .. just a single enemy.. not multiple.. |
| 10:45.57 | CIA-12 | 03jerry * r50915 10Talented/ (6 files): |
| 10:45.57 | CIA-12 | Talented: |
| 10:45.57 | CIA-12 | _ Allow to clone the template being shown (allows to save template that you got from Rock). |
| 10:45.57 | CIA-12 | _ Only keep the latest template from each player. |
| 10:47.03 | Kazie | Ailleus: Why don't you just use SCT? |
| 10:47.31 | CIA-12 | 03recluse * r50916 10NiHao/NiHao.lua: |
| 10:47.31 | CIA-12 | NiHao: |
| 10:47.31 | CIA-12 | - Grouped session data better. |
| 10:48.15 | Stanzilla2 | Kazie: KillingSpree_UT2k4 ? |
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| 10:54.53 | CIA-12 | tekkub-wow: 03tekkub * r566 10/trunk/TourGuide/Alliance/ (48_49_Stranglethorn.lua 47_48_Tanaris.lua): TourGuide - Guide tweaks after playing |
| 10:54.55 | Grum | Ailleus: did you get an error? |
| 10:56.16 | CIA-12 | 03andyca * r50917 10CastYeller/Locale-zhTW.lua: CastYeller: Modify Locale-zhTW.lua to align Locale-enUS.lua changes |
| 10:57.13 | CIA-12 | 03oridan * r50918 10SpellReminder/SpellReminder.lua: |
| 10:57.13 | CIA-12 | SpellReminder: |
| 10:57.13 | CIA-12 | - tracks extra buff/debuffs applied on hit |
| 10:58.51 | kebinusan | Im having some weird buggy thing with my tooltips stickign onmy screen |
| 11:03.18 | CIA-12 | 03celellach * r50919 10AtlasLoot_SetsandPvP/sets.en.lua: |
| 11:03.18 | CIA-12 | AtlasLoot_SetsandPvP: |
| 11:03.18 | CIA-12 | - Fixed item name |
| 11:06.02 | chexsum | kazie, sct/parrot/necb handle killing blows |
| 11:07.13 | chexsum | i should add headshot sound into killingspree if its not a first blood or multi/spree kill :\ |
| 11:08.22 | evl | !vs |
| 11:09.42 | bindi | gagaga, the sws minimap icon keeps coming back no matter what i do to it :( |
| 11:10.10 | Corgan | touch it in a naughty place |
| 11:10.16 | bindi | done :( |
| 11:11.49 | Ailleus | did parrot broadcast break aura effect? |
| 11:12.56 | Ailleus | [13:54] <Grum> Ailleus: did you get an error? WoW-> stop responding and with the newest release some rocklib error |
| 11:13.33 | Grum | what you do then - poke ckknight and make sure you mention the *first* error |
| 11:13.35 | Grum | and update again ^^ |
| 11:16.05 | CIA-12 | 03rabbit * r50920 10BigWigs/Hyjal/HyjalSummit.lua: BigWigs: HyjalSummit: Minor cleanups. |
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| 11:20.26 | CIA-12 | 03quagmire * r50921 10nQuestLog/ (10 files in 7 dirs): (log message trimmed) |
| 11:20.26 | CIA-12 | nQuestLog: |
| 11:20.26 | CIA-12 | - Code cleanup |
| 11:20.27 | CIA-12 | - Removed detach option from main menu |
| 11:20.27 | CIA-12 | - Fixed <not yet cached> links on details and comments frames. |
| 11:20.27 | CIA-12 | - Fixed tooltips error when displaying group quests on items (thanks fyrye) |
| 11:20.29 | CIA-12 | - Tooltip will no longer display quest items on a player when their name matches part of an objective. |
| 11:24.11 | CIA-12 | 03phyber * r50922 10IRQ/ (IRQ.lua Libs/ embeds.xml): |
| 11:24.11 | CIA-12 | IRQ: |
| 11:24.11 | CIA-12 | - Options to change the bar texture, perhaps. |
| 11:25.19 | CIA-12 | 03rabbit * r50923 10BigWigs/Prototype.lua: BigWigs: Prototype: Not quite sure why this was local'd. |
| 11:29.19 | CIA-12 | 03oridan * r50924 10SpellReminder/SpellReminder.lua: |
| 11:29.20 | CIA-12 | SpellReminder: |
| 11:29.20 | CIA-12 | - aesthetic change to bar text processing |
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| 11:46.05 | Ailleus | did some1 add breakaura option to parrot? |
| 11:55.12 | CIA-12 | 03andyca * r50925 10Buffalo/ (Buffalo-zhTW.lua Buffalo.toc): Buffalo: Added zhTW localization file; update .toc file to load zhTW locale data. |
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| 11:56.04 | ggilbert | http://www.forumopolis.com/showpost.php?p=1746169&postcount=102 |
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| 12:02.03 | Ailleus | Error: attempt to index local 'addon' (a string value)AddOn: ParrotFile: LibRock-1.0.luaLine: 2321Count: 1 |
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| 12:04.09 | orionshock | Ailleus: get bug sack |
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| 12:04.22 | orionshock | IEF donsn't give the debug stack |
| 12:05.12 | Fathersin | ckknight around? |
| 12:05.50 | Fathersin | take that as a no :( |
| 12:05.55 | orionshock | he's on irc |
| 12:05.59 | orionshock | but prolly afk |
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| 12:06.38 | Fathersin | all good. just wanted to pick his brain for a sec |
| 12:08.02 | sag_ich_nicht | ~poke Antiarc |
| 12:08.03 | purl | ACTION cuts down a small tree, sneaks up behind Antiarc, pokes Antiarc repeatedly, hilarity ensues. |
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| 12:14.35 | Fathersin | how do you see the commands the purl has? |
| 12:17.03 | Trell_ | ~fail Fathersin |
| 12:17.04 | purl | Fathersin: Fail. |
| 12:17.11 | Speeddymon | norganna merged auc classic into the mainline trunk of auctioneer, and i have tortise setup to download trunk into my addons folder for the dev version of auc5.. i dont want auc classic in my addons folder.. any way to stop it from being downloaded by the client? |
| 12:17.17 | chexsum | ~purl |
| 12:17.17 | purl | extra, extra, read all about it, purl is emo |
| 12:17.29 | chexsum | ~infobot |
| 12:17.29 | purl | chexsum: I love abuse, feed me! |
| 12:17.39 | Speeddymon | Fathersin: simple answer? you dont |
| 12:17.41 | Trell_ | ~lart chexsum |
| 12:17.41 | purl | burns chexsum to a crisp with a laser |
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| 12:20.08 | Fathersin | i always fail :P |
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| 12:23.13 | chexsum | CowTip/libs/LibRockComm-1.0/*.* is borked |
| 12:27.07 | neenee | Hm. I have Stitch-1.0 and Stitch 1.1 |
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| 12:31.58 | Fathersin | !red |
| 12:32.01 | Fathersin | ~red |
| 12:32.02 | purl | hmm... red is 4red |
| 12:32.08 | Fathersin | =/ |
| 12:32.09 | Gngsk | ~brown |
| 12:32.10 | purl | i heard brown is red + orange + blue + green + yellow |
| 12:32.33 | Fathersin | >:P |
| 12:32.37 | Fathersin | ~noob |
| 12:32.38 | purl | just what someone is before they're a pro, or <action> has died. |
| 12:32.38 | siIentium | what about violet? |
| 12:32.42 | Xinhuan | ~black |
| 12:32.42 | purl | it has been said that black is off right? |
| 12:32.56 | Ellipsis | o.O |
| 12:33.00 | Dezzimal | zip zop |
| 12:33.07 | SunTsu | .o0( "Any color as long as it is black" ) |
| 12:33.14 | chexsum | ~warrior |
| 12:33.36 | Fathersin | ~fathersin |
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| 12:37.19 | Fathersin | ~wtf purl |
| 12:37.31 | Fathersin | ./giggle |
| 12:37.47 | Fathersin | ok that amusment was short lived |
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| 12:45.17 | Lukian | does parrot have a setting like SCT's "Framerate independant mode" ? |
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| 12:46.18 | baer_ | something for OT: |
| 12:46.40 | baer_ | anyone knows, how much DPS should go at lurker? |
| 12:46.52 | baer_ | talking about raid-DPS. |
| 12:47.39 | Codayus | What gear level? |
| 12:48.07 | baer_ | mainly created stuff, t4 (karazhan/magtheridon/gruul) |
| 12:48.18 | Codayus | Four our...3rd kill I think...we did 8715 raid DPS. So, mostly T4. |
| 12:48.20 | kebinusan | no enrage timer on lurker, just make sure your people arent idiots and can avoid the blue beam |
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| 12:48.48 | Codayus | But as kebinusan said, since Lurker isn't a DPS race, tactics, assignments, etc., aren't designed to maximise DPS. |
| 12:49.08 | ramoz | you loose at lot of dps waiting for the nagas to get in position |
| 12:49.15 | baer_ | tried him only 1 time so far. |
| 12:49.26 | Codayus | So that may be less than the same raid would see on, say, a static tank n' spank. |
| 12:49.47 | kebinusan | he hits a bit hard and fast |
| 12:49.55 | baer_ | the main problem was that in his dive phase the guardian/hunter groups (sorry, don't know the english name for 'em) wiped us. |
| 12:50.17 | Codayus | baer_: Our first couple tries died to that. What's your strategy for CC? |
| 12:50.38 | kebinusan | We split the raid up, ranged on each platform with 1 cc per platform.. platform dps is responsible for the adds on their platform and rogues finish up the internal adds |
| 12:50.49 | Codayus | Our FIRST idea was, CC the guardians, tank the ambushers. This failed badly; Guardians teleported a lot, ambushers mowed us down. |
| 12:51.09 | ramoz | hm |
| 12:51.30 | Codayus | Our DECOND idea was, tank all 3 guardians, CC one ambusher on each platform, ranged is split into 1/3. Each ranged group clears a platform. Melee DPSes down each guardian in turn. |
| 12:51.33 | baer_ | Codayus: the main idea was to sheep the 3 guardians (mage cc) in the inner ring, and have 1 cc & 1dd per platform. |
| 12:51.45 | Codayus | That worked much better. |
| 12:51.54 | baer_ | so for example a platform group would be hunter/warlock for fear & ice-trap |
| 12:52.17 | kebinusan | Codayus: thats what we do |
| 12:52.35 | Codayus | We found it's much better to tank the Guardians, they don't hit that hard and you do NOT want them wandering loose. *shudder* |
| 12:52.59 | baer_ | kebinusan: sounds interesting, how many rogues do you have in your raid? |
| 12:53.09 | Codayus | CC on the platforms is good; we use freeze traps because it's not as much DPS loss. (And, for various reasons, we tend to have at least as many hunters as mages.) |
| 12:53.12 | kebinusan | 3 normally |
| 12:53.20 | baer_ | ok |
| 12:53.49 | Codayus | We tend to run 3 rogues, 1 DPS war, maybe a feral or two. We assign 3 ranged DPS to each platform, "spare" ranged DPS helps the melee kill Guardians |
| 12:54.18 | baer_ | how do you go on the guardians? focus dps 'em down? |
| 12:54.21 | Codayus | And whenever anyones assigned mobs die, they turn to help others. With T4 gear, we tend to clear the platform with ~8s to spare if we're doing well. |
| 12:54.37 | Codayus | 3 tanks on each, all melee plus spare ranged focus fire them down one at a time. |
| 12:54.43 | Codayus | Er, 3 tanks, 1 on each. :) |
| 12:55.05 | Codayus | Really, it depends what your dying to. |
| 12:55.18 | Codayus | Loose guardians? Ambusher multishots? Mobs left up when lurker pops back? |
| 12:55.22 | Aethius | is there some addon to parse out Buff fades and the reason from clog and show them as a message? (for example: Fort is dipelled from X by Y dispel) |
| 12:55.44 | Codayus | Aethius: Don't think so... |
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| 12:57.29 | alext | Codayus: just to tell yah how we do it...we put at least 2 ranged (at least 1 with CC) on each platform. The 3 guardians on the center part are chain sheeped for the entire fight |
| 12:57.34 | Ailleus | ee there is some addon sctdispel ..doesnt work for some reason + at least combat log shows it under break aura options |
| 12:58.19 | kebinusan | alext: huh? dont 3 more spawn the next submerge |
| 12:58.22 | Codayus | alext: We keep hearing about chain sheeping, but we never saw the point. :-/ Risky when it breaks, and it's just too easy to kill them. |
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| 12:58.53 | kebinusan | unless you're running light on tanks, might as well give em somethin to do :-) |
| 12:59.18 | Codayus | kebinusan: Oddly, no, apparently. You can actually sheep the adds for the ENTIRE fight, and then kill them after Lurker. |
| 12:59.33 | Codayus | And more don't spawn, because they're still there... |
| 12:59.48 | Codayus | But we always seem to have more tanks than mages, so... :-) |
| 13:00.05 | baer_ | Codayus: sorry, but what is chain-sheeping? |
| 13:00.32 | Towbar | lurker isnt so bad if people just avoid the spout, I (rogue) jump in down at teh front and dps like crazy when he spouts |
| 13:00.32 | Codayus | baer_: If a Guardian is still alive from ONE phase when the NEXT add phase hits, apparently Lurker won't summon a replacement. |
| 13:00.47 | baer_ | oh really? |
| 13:00.48 | Towbar | baer: chain sheeping is keeping a target constantly sheeped |
| 13:00.51 | Codayus | So if you keep the first 3 Guadians sheeped, you'll never get more spawning. |
| 13:00.55 | alext | keb |
| 13:00.57 | alext | no they dont respawn |
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| 13:01.08 | baer_ | nice. didn't knew that fact, actually. |
| 13:01.24 | alext | we got lurker on farm and thats what we do every time |
| 13:01.29 | alext | mages just add sheep in their DPs rotation |
| 13:01.33 | kebinusan | heh interesting |
| 13:01.35 | Codayus | ...I don't see the point; we always have at least a couple of ferals or DPS warriors to OT, and the DPS requirements for killing them all is very very low. *shrug* |
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| 13:01.40 | kebinusan | just /focus target one easy to keep a sheep up |
| 13:01.47 | kebinusan | but theres not much else to dps in phase 2 |
| 13:01.47 | alext | well you know how it is, whatever works ;] |
| 13:01.48 | Towbar | we nuke them too |
| 13:01.49 | Codayus | But! Whatever works, right? :-) |
| 13:01.52 | alext | yah ;] |
| 13:01.57 | kebinusan | neat tho |
| 13:01.58 | Wobin | kebinusan: CF is really good =) one click solution for every CC class |
| 13:02.03 | alext | oh the reason the guys teleport... |
| 13:02.13 | baer_ | how much HP did the groups have actually? |
| 13:02.14 | Towbar | might as well since your standing around for 10 seconds after they die anyway |
| 13:02.17 | alext | they will teleport if they agro someone on a different platform |
| 13:02.20 | alext | so if a guardian is up |
| 13:02.24 | Codayus | alext: Is because someone on a platform has aggro. Usually a healer or a spriest. Usually me. >< |
| 13:02.27 | alext | and a healer on a platform heals |
| 13:02.36 | alext | yah |
| 13:02.38 | baer_ | afair the guardians got 60k hp & the ranged guys ~14k hp? |
| 13:02.44 | alext | they either teleport or evade |
| 13:03.21 | alext | roughly |
| 13:03.26 | alext | ranged has more like 20-22k i think |
| 13:03.38 | Codayus | You can do some tricks with misdirect or tanks hitting them a bit to get initial aggro so they're less likely to teleport and cleave healers. |
| 13:04.34 | baer_ | so it's 6*20k and 3*60k in how many seconds? |
| 13:05.22 | Codayus | hm |
| 13:06.43 | Codayus | Bigwigs knows... |
| 13:06.51 | ramoz | why dont you just assign 3-4 casters to each island hand have the dps one and cc the other, also have sheep one of the cleavin idiots and tank the two others (with melee killing them, casters helping when theyære done with their island) |
| 13:07.03 | ramoz | oh |
| 13:07.06 | Codayus | 60s |
| 13:07.26 | ramoz | and you might wanna have som tanks on the island |
| 13:07.33 | baer_ | ok, 60s for ~300k... |
| 13:07.36 | ramoz | but you need 5 tanks for hydross anyway |
| 13:07.51 | alext | welp if your having issues with lurker i doubt your doing hydross ;] |
| 13:07.53 | baer_ | ramoz: correct. |
| 13:08.15 | ramoz | alext: isnt hydross first? :O |
| 13:08.19 | siIentium | we sheep/fear/trap adds on the islands, no tanks needed there |
| 13:08.26 | ramoz | true |
| 13:08.31 | baer_ | ramoz: no, you can bypass him. |
| 13:08.38 | ramoz | you can? we never did that |
| 13:08.47 | Codayus | Lots of guilds kill Lurker, then work on Hydross |
| 13:08.51 | Codayus | Since Lurker is a lot easier. |
| 13:08.53 | ramoz | really? |
| 13:08.57 | ramoz | wut! lies |
| 13:09.06 | baer_ | ramoz: actually yes, since the boss encounter does not fire up until you directly attack hydross. |
| 13:09.25 | ramoz | hm, ok |
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| 13:09.30 | ramoz | we killed him first in SSC |
| 13:09.48 | ramoz | we bypassed alar and morogrim tho |
| 13:09.53 | cryogen | 14:09 < baer_> ramoz: actually yes, since the boss encounter does not fire up |
| 13:09.53 | cryogen | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:09.55 | baer_ | and hydross is an "our tanks got fr/nr-gear" encounter to be honest. |
| 13:09.55 | cryogen | not true |
| 13:10.04 | kebinusan | yeah hydross is easy to pull now at least |
| 13:10.05 | Codayus | Anyhow, yeah, we generally do something like... 1 hunter, 1 spriest, 1 mage/lock per platform. 1 tank per guardian. All melee + spare ranged on guardians... |
| 13:10.06 | cryogen | he has a huge aggro range, just not huge enough so that you can slip behind |
| 13:10.12 | cryogen | or did they change it recently? |
| 13:10.13 | kebinusan | and the positioning seems to be more forgiving with the transistions |
| 13:10.17 | Codayus | cryogen: Tiny now, since 2.2 |
| 13:10.22 | cryogen | ah good |
| 13:10.25 | Codayus | Thankfully. |
| 13:10.28 | kebinusan | yeah you can walk up to him w/o invis pot/ eye of kilrogg intervene mojo |
| 13:10.31 | Codayus | That pull was insane. |
| 13:10.33 | cryogen | no more invis pot pulls? :p |
| 13:10.41 | ramoz | kebinusan: we, we did that alot |
| 13:10.42 | baer_ | cryogen: nope :p |
| 13:10.45 | cryogen | yay |
| 13:10.46 | alext | yah we still havent dont hydross |
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| 13:10.50 | Codayus | We did intervene pulls; bit of lag and you got 8 adds. >< |
| 13:10.52 | ramoz | tanks fucked up alot at the pulls |
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| 13:10.56 | alext | our tanks have the resist gear, just been workin on the other bosses |
| 13:10.57 | cryogen | suppose i should raid once in a while |
| 13:11.12 | kebinusan | my favorites were the raid running in after the tank who chugged an invis pot.. but they didnt |
| 13:11.21 | Towbar | its nice to get hydross down for SSC progress though |
| 13:11.24 | Iceroth | our healers always goofed up the pull, "oh, there goes the tank, muuuuust foooolllooowwww" |
| 13:11.29 | alext | yeah its a great accomplishment |
| 13:11.35 | baer_ | *hehe* |
| 13:11.40 | Towbar | means that your people can work together and also that you have less trash clearing the rest of the week |
| 13:11.45 | Codayus | We had a 43% wipe on Hydross tonight. That's...something. >< |
| 13:11.45 | kebinusan | or someone pulling aggro on a transition and suddenly you have 12 adds |
| 13:11.50 | baer_ | anyone got a nice tip for the type 1 trash groups before hydross? |
| 13:11.52 | alext | we just downed fathom lord last night but we already got locks geared for that L_______ boss |
| 13:11.56 | alext | so we are going to work on him next |
| 13:11.58 | Towbar | 43% is nice progress |
| 13:12.10 | Towbar | means you jsut need to watch transition aggro? |
| 13:12.11 | kebinusan | leotheras |
| 13:12.13 | baer_ | we have that dude down already, but those groups always spank 2-10 raid members. |
| 13:12.15 | ramoz | alext: he's a bitch |
| 13:12.20 | Codayus | 1st serious night of attempts. 2nd night of attempts...don't want to talk about the first night. :-) |
| 13:12.31 | alext | ramoz: yah its a healer check |
| 13:12.41 | alext | we went from wipes at 80% a few days ago to 0% yesterday |
| 13:12.42 | kebinusan | yeah Ive taken to making everyone stop dps during the 100% mark and reposition on the proper side of the flags |
| 13:12.44 | alext | so it was good progress |
| 13:12.49 | Towbar | gz |
| 13:13.03 | Codayus | I think the highlight of the first night was a bad transition leaving us with 12 adds *AND* the group of naga from down the ramp. |
| 13:13.06 | ramoz | alext: not only a healer check - they also need to be able to kill stuff, and people tend to FREAK out at 15% |
| 13:13.11 | Iceroth | 1% wipe on leo last week, that kinda sucked |
| 13:13.19 | Codayus | Because everythings more fun with AoE silence mobs running around. |
| 13:13.20 | Towbar | baer: want trash tips for mobs pre hydros? |
| 13:13.30 | alext | we are going to start working on leo this weekend, should be good times |
| 13:13.45 | Towbar | what are you going to use to tank demon phase? |
| 13:14.09 | alext | FR lock |
| 13:14.15 | Towbar | nice, thats what we use |
| 13:14.26 | kebinusan | Iceroth: enrage timer? |
| 13:14.34 | Towbar | give him a misdirect and searing pain spam means bar a few resists noone will over aggro |
| 13:14.34 | Iceroth | no, raid died |
| 13:14.52 | cryogen | last leo i did i pulled aggro twice |
| 13:14.53 | ramoz | Towbar: timing on CoD is crucial |
| 13:14.54 | Codayus | Iceroth: Ah, the direct approach to a wipe. :) |
| 13:14.56 | cryogen | so i just tanked for a bit |
| 13:15.06 | Towbar | ramoz: indeed |
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| 13:15.09 | kebinusan | heh eating too many whirlwinds |
| 13:15.13 | Iceroth | ranged just couldn't resist at pulling agro during transitions to human form |
| 13:15.23 | kebinusan | Iceroth: searing totems help |
| 13:15.24 | ramoz | think its 14s into his normal phase |
| 13:15.36 | Iceroth | ye we used that too |
| 13:15.39 | Towbar | yea SSC is about working as a team and doing the right thing on transistions |
| 13:15.42 | Iceroth | but the ranged _really_ sucked there |
| 13:16.02 | Towbar | yea totems are awesome for placement on leo |
| 13:16.19 | Iceroth | and the dimwits won't feign/iceblock/whatever when they pull the agro right away, they just *have* to wait for mob to get close to do so |
| 13:16.35 | Towbar | dmg meter whores :( |
| 13:16.38 | kebinusan | hehe, RUN TOWARDS THE TANK |
| 13:16.42 | Towbar | you cannot do dmg when you are dead... |
| 13:16.49 | cryogen | sure you can |
| 13:16.49 | Iceroth | we have it "run away, run forest, run" |
| 13:16.50 | Towbar | dont over aggro :) |
| 13:16.51 | cryogen | dots are great! |
| 13:17.02 | Towbar | :) |
| 13:17.11 | kebinusan | actually our locks tend to get in trouble with badly timed dots and such on leo |
| 13:17.22 | kebinusan | annoying pewpew after ww ends and silly stuff |
| 13:17.27 | alext | got a 350 FR lock with like 14k stamina |
| 13:17.29 | alext | so i think we are set |
| 13:17.32 | Towbar | are your melee dying to WW? |
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| 13:17.45 | kebinusan | Towbar: no, just ranged being idiots from time to time |
| 13:17.51 | Towbar | ahhh |
| 13:17.53 | kebinusan | alext: you need 365 fr buffed |
| 13:17.58 | Iceroth | WW isn't even that deadly |
| 13:18.04 | Towbar | alext: thats plenty |
| 13:18.07 | Iceroth | well ok, i'm druid so i can heal myself if i get it but still |
| 13:18.17 | kebinusan | well.. they tend to get hit all at once |
| 13:18.29 | Towbar | WW is deadly if 3 rogues and a tank are getting 2k ticks and healers are not close |
| 13:18.40 | alext | yah i mean bosskillers says |
| 13:18.41 | alext | The warlock offtank needs to be Soul Link specced and have about 250 unbuffed fire resistance and as much stamina as he can get. The warlock needs a shaman or a paladin in his group with Fire Reistance Totem/Fire Resistance Aura and a Flask of Fortification. |
| 13:18.43 | alext | 250 |
| 13:18.43 | kebinusan | well doesnt happen that often |
| 13:18.44 | alext | and we got 350 |
| 13:18.48 | alext | so i figure that was enough |
| 13:18.53 | Towbar | I jsut run in get 5 CP evis and run out |
| 13:18.56 | kebinusan | doesnt need to be soul link |
| 13:19.00 | alext | our dude is 350 UNBUFFEd |
| 13:19.01 | alext | mind you |
| 13:19.02 | kebinusan | I do it unflasked as affliction |
| 13:19.06 | alext | so with GOTW |
| 13:19.08 | alext | and pally aura |
| 13:19.10 | alext | we will be fine |
| 13:19.11 | neenee | How often do Dark Iron Dwarves attack? |
| 13:19.15 | kebinusan | gotw and pally aura dont stack |
| 13:19.19 | alext | welp |
| 13:19.20 | kebinusan | neenee hourly |
| 13:19.22 | neenee | ok |
| 13:19.26 | alext | either/or will push even higher |
| 13:19.38 | kebinusan | anything over 365 is overkill tho |
| 13:19.48 | Towbar | would be better off with concentration aura if he has 350 FR |
| 13:19.58 | alext | well then he would take off FR pieces |
| 13:20.00 | alext | for damage |
| 13:20.02 | alext | until he was near cap |
| 13:20.03 | alext | ;] |
| 13:20.11 | kebinusan | yeah just sayin |
| 13:20.12 | Towbar | make sure he is close to hit cap as well |
| 13:20.25 | Towbar | 4 resists at the start of a demon phase will nerf dps |
| 13:20.27 | alext | his hit capped in the gear |
| 13:20.33 | Towbar | cause everyone else will over aggro |
| 13:20.38 | kebinusan | towbar, curse of doom takes care of that pretty well |
| 13:20.38 | alext | we usually dont have prep problems, those are taken care of |
| 13:20.39 | Iceroth | our lock did had quite a few resist when someone pasted the combat log but that didn't seem to matter |
| 13:20.42 | alext | just execution if anything |
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| 13:20.51 | Towbar | kebinusan: true |
| 13:21.18 | Iceroth | just couldn't pull agro from lock even when i tried after he initially got it :) |
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| 13:21.23 | kebinusan | when I do it, I get a full stack of dots on him at 10 seconds before the transformation as well so they are ticking at the start of the phase |
| 13:21.25 | Towbar | but the timing is a bit more crucial that a curator evocation CoD |
| 13:21.29 | Towbar | than* |
| 13:21.36 | kebinusan | towbar its easy |
| 13:21.46 | kebinusan | less than 15 secodns in the demon phase, doom him |
| 13:22.03 | kebinusan | fairly straight forward to time if you use bigwigs |
| 13:22.08 | Towbar | ad its going off for the next demon phase? |
| 13:22.13 | kebinusan | yep |
| 13:22.15 | Towbar | nice |
| 13:22.19 | kebinusan | human phase is 45 seconds long |
| 13:22.20 | Towbar | instant aggro too then |
| 13:22.23 | kebinusan | yeah |
| 13:22.25 | Iceroth | oh, good tip, will have to ask if our lock was doing that |
| 13:22.35 | Towbar | I dont think our lock does |
| 13:22.52 | Towbar | we have a misdirect rotation on hunter for starty |
| 13:22.53 | kebinusan | we also dont slow down dps as we approach 15% for the split, just have our paladin DI me if I happen to have debuffs on me |
| 13:23.11 | kebinusan | yeah our hunters dont even bother to misdirect |
| 13:23.25 | Towbar | you say potatoes... |
| 13:23.30 | Towbar | i say... |
| 13:23.38 | Gngsk | POE TAY TOE |
| 13:23.41 | Towbar | same thing different mechinism |
| 13:23.44 | kebinusan | heh, well most of the time our hunters are misdirecting onto the human form tank |
| 13:23.45 | steev64 | mashed |
| 13:23.47 | steev64 | plz |
| 13:23.54 | Towbar | i live in northern ireland |
| 13:24.00 | Towbar | we get a lot of potatoes here :) |
| 13:24.26 | Ellipsis | wot's taters, eh? |
| 13:24.30 | Towbar | :) |
| 13:24.41 | Ellipsis | boil-em-mash-em-stick-em-in-a-stew! |
| 13:24.44 | kebinusan | teehee |
| 13:24.52 | Towbar | most of the time? |
| 13:24.55 | Towbar | what do you mean? |
| 13:25.08 | CIA-12 | 03chuanhsing * r50932 10FuBar_GemWatchFu/localization.lua: |
| 13:25.08 | CIA-12 | FuBar_GemWatchFu: |
| 13:25.08 | CIA-12 | - update zhTW (by Tranquil) |
| 13:25.17 | steev64 | gemwatch? |
| 13:31.44 | *** join/#wowace Crysli (i=Tasma@0x503fe6bd.bynxx10.adsl-dhcp.tele.dk) |
| 13:31.51 | Crysli | Afternoon |
| 13:32.04 | Trell_ | since logging on today, my sound has just died >_< |
| 13:32.12 | Trell_ | only in game - everything else is fine - any ideas? |
| 13:32.35 | Crysli | Trell_: Tried pressing ctrl + s? |
| 13:32.55 | Trell_ | yeah |
| 13:33.02 | Crysli | Hm... |
| 13:33.09 | Speeddymon | try disabling all addons? |
| 13:33.14 | Crysli | Checked sound settings? |
| 13:33.16 | Trell_ | i havent changed anything |
| 13:33.20 | Trell_ | yes, Crysli |
| 13:33.28 | Ellipsis | you didn't -nosound, did you? :P |
| 13:33.38 | Trell_ | i haven't changed *anything* |
| 13:33.54 | Trell_ | between logging off yesterday (sound was fine) and logging on today (sound not fine) |
| 13:33.59 | Speeddymon | try disabling all addons.. if you can still reproduce it, its not an addon (duh) |
| 13:34.23 | Speeddymon | did you even update addons yesterday or today? |
| 13:34.44 | Trell_ | mmm I updated addons before logging on, as normal - so I *did* change something, I lied |
| 13:34.50 | Speeddymon | hehe |
| 13:34.56 | CIA-12 | 03chuanhsing * r50933 10ArkInventory/Locale/zhTW.lua: |
| 13:34.56 | CIA-12 | ArkInventory: |
| 13:34.56 | CIA-12 | - update zhTW for 2.2.2 |
| 13:35.00 | Ellipsis | how can we ever trust you again, Trell_? |
| 13:35.03 | Trell_ | but im sure others wouldve complained if it was an addon |
| 13:35.13 | Trell_ | i doubt im the only person thats updated today |
| 13:35.24 | Speeddymon | yea, try disabling them.. im betting one of them did a fix for the playsoundfile issue, and it broke everything else |
| 13:35.28 | Fisker-- | bai tiem |
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| 13:35.55 | Speeddymon | you are correct in that assumption trell, but you may be the first one to be running whichever addon causes that problem |
| 13:36.05 | CIA-12 | 03chuanhsing * r50934 10Babble-2.2/Babble-Tradeskill-2.2/Babble-Tradeskill-2.2.lua: |
| 13:36.05 | CIA-12 | Babble-2.2: |
| 13:36.05 | CIA-12 | - update zhTW (for 2.2.2) |
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| 13:37.50 | Funkeh` | hey |
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| 13:38.32 | Trell_ | http://ace.pastey.net/74818 |
| 13:38.40 | Trell_ | thats all the ones updated before logging on |
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| 13:40.15 | Trell_ | huh |
| 13:40.16 | Pkekyo | anyone know the news on Half-Life 2: Black Box? |
| 13:40.20 | *** mode/#wowace [+v Shirik|Ecole] by ChanServ |
| 13:40.23 | Trell_ | put sound channels to high and it seems to be working now |
| 13:40.29 | Trell_ | weird |
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| 13:41.28 | *** mode/#wowace [+v Tekkub] by ChanServ |
| 13:41.40 | Xinhuan | i need a razor blade |
| 13:42.00 | Grum | down the road .. not across |
| 13:42.03 | Grum | ~emo |
| 13:42.03 | purl | /wrists |
| 13:42.09 | Grum | ~wrists |
| 13:42.09 | purl | Remember, emo kids, it's down the street, not across the road! http://www.saunalahti.fi/maut0n/makeitcount.jpg |
| 13:42.19 | Xinhuan | dont' understand how people can't move out of the flamestrike |
| 13:42.20 | Xinhuan | at kael |
| 13:43.11 | Grum | make an addon that shouts at em |
| 13:43.24 | Grum | 'RUUUUUUUUUUUUUUN OR DIE' |
| 13:43.34 | Grum | like Banzai's 'Aggro!' |
| 13:43.41 | neenee | Hm.. |
| 13:43.49 | Grum | i'd seriously use that tbh |
| 13:43.51 | neenee | How do I disable all those Felwood notes in Cartographer? |
| 13:44.09 | Grum | Cartographer -> Herbalism -> Filter -> Felwood |
| 13:44.39 | neenee | Doesn't do it |
| 13:44.51 | Grum | you have to untoggle it |
| 13:45.14 | Grum | and are you looking @ the minimap? you need to move your ass a bit for it to update i guess |
| 13:45.25 | neenee | There's not even a Felwood there |
| 13:45.25 | CIA-12 | 03sylvanaar * r50935 10Talented/chat.lua: Talented: the colon call syntax for string.split was too complicated for me to get right the first try. its (":"):split(texttosplit). |
| 13:45.31 | neenee | I am looking at the big map |
| 13:45.43 | neenee | Both show the Questionmark icons |
| 13:45.48 | neenee | For the felwood things |
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| 13:46.42 | Grum | euuh? |
| 13:46.46 | Grum | oooh |
| 13:46.47 | Grum | mmm |
| 13:46.50 | Grum | you imported your nodes? |
| 13:46.59 | Grum | i've had that once before |
| 13:47.06 | neenee | I never imported anything |
| 13:47.09 | Grum | try 'fiddling' with out 'icon packs' |
| 13:47.25 | neenee | I do not use any icon packs |
| 13:47.34 | neenee | But I see now that they were created by 'Treasure' |
| 13:47.42 | neenee | So they must be a remnant of having that module installed |
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| 13:48.49 | neenee | I'll delete all Cartographer Lua files and see what that does. |
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| 13:52.41 | neenee | Ah, that worked =] |
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| 13:55.39 | BlackVelvet | I love this topic "please keep discussion at least sort of acceptable for minors when you go OT." ;D;D |
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| 13:58.54 | CIA-12 | 03sylvanaar * r50936 10Prat/Prat.lua: Prat: Short term fix for restoring SELECTED_CHAT_FRAME which prat sets to the chatframe on which an itemlink is clicked during the scope of SetItemRef |
| 13:59.10 | Bestial | Could someone tell me if someone has done this already, with wowarmory? |
| 13:59.17 | Ellipsis | done what? |
| 13:59.29 | Bestial | Basically, I am looking for a query that does a class/talent breakdown |
| 13:59.43 | Bestial | i.e. how many frost mages in > 2200 5v5 arenas |
| 13:59.50 | Ellipsis | dunno of any for PvP |
| 13:59.53 | Bestial | except it is for all classes |
| 13:59.54 | Bestial | ah |
| 13:59.56 | Ellipsis | but there probably is one |
| 13:59.58 | Ellipsis | somewhere |
| 14:00.08 | sylvanaar | antiarc has some tools but, idk if that is one |
| 14:00.20 | Bestial | Yea I checked his website, it is close, but not quite what I am looking for |
| 14:00.37 | Bestial | It would be nice to see what actual representation of classes/talents are in different arena brackets |
| 14:01.15 | sylvanaar | you will have to gather large amounts of information |
| 14:01.23 | sylvanaar | go to a datamining site |
| 14:01.25 | *** join/#wowace Worf (n=worf@85-124-180-50.dynamic.xdsl-line.inode.at) |
| 14:01.59 | Towbar | there is a site for it, that rips the armory info and lets you search |
| 14:02.03 | Bestial | ah really |
| 14:02.06 | Bestial | cuz I know SQL |
| 14:02.09 | Towbar | like 2v2 class mage tree frost etc |
| 14:02.19 | Bestial | if I could just be able to query the data |
| 14:02.21 | Towbar | cant remember the name |
| 14:02.43 | Towbar | this site has every search paramater you need |
| 14:02.54 | Towbar | googling |
| 14:03.56 | chexsum | tattle |
| 14:04.47 | Towbar | antiarc, gj on hemlock btw, didnt know you made it :) |
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| 14:09.53 | Bestial | I'm surprised, there isn't really much in google about data mining the armory |
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| 14:11.49 | Towbar | found a nice lite version of the armory though |
| 14:11.50 | Towbar | http://www.frals.net/wow/armory/ |
| 14:12.09 | Towbar | the site i was at once had a mad amount of searrch paramaters |
| 14:12.20 | Towbar | like 3v3 mage fire spec etc |
| 14:12.27 | Towbar | all with drop down menus |
| 14:13.31 | Bestial | ahh that is exactly what I am looking for :/ |
| 14:13.34 | Ellipsis | lol my armory profile shows me with Honorless Target |
| 14:13.47 | Towbar | i also have a feeling it was asian |
| 14:14.03 | Towbar | chinese possible, but you could change to english |
| 14:14.03 | Ellipsis | I'm guessing Blizz doesn't do any filtering on buffs then |
| 14:14.24 | deltron | Towbar: nice find! |
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| 14:15.23 | neenee | That light version may look lighter, but isn't faster |
| 14:15.25 | Towbar | yea its nice and clean |
| 14:15.35 | deltron | it didn't pull my stuff up though |
| 14:15.49 | deltron | doesn't have my items |
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| 14:16.12 | Ellipsis | yeah items aren't showing up for me |
| 14:16.15 | xyu` | Good morning good people ! |
| 14:16.20 | Ellipsis | but I can still click them to go to the item page |
| 14:17.03 | Towbar | Execution time: 1.812s |
| 14:17.07 | Towbar | feels faster for me |
| 14:17.13 | xyu` | hmm i wonder what kind of discussion warrented the topic change :D |
| 14:17.33 | deltron | Execution time: 3.406s heh |
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| 14:18.01 | Ellipsis | I wonder if I can get an execution time closer to pi than that... |
| 14:18.32 | Ackis | cake > pi |
| 14:18.55 | Marli | Execution time: 3.14159265358979323846264338327950288419716 |
| 14:18.58 | Marli | I wonder if I can get an execution time closer to pi than that... |
| 14:19.13 | xyu` | copy pasted! |
| 14:19.15 | Towbar | lol marli |
| 14:19.28 | Ellipsis | ~fail Marli |
| 14:19.28 | purl | Marli: Fail. |
| 14:19.36 | Ellipsis | you forgot the "s" to make it look real |
| 14:19.44 | Marli | Oh noes |
| 14:19.56 | Marli | imo its more fail that I didnt copy paste D: |
| 14:20.17 | xyu` | how many have you memorized? |
| 14:20.23 | Marli | Just that much |
| 14:20.25 | Marli | 42 I think |
| 14:20.37 | Marli | I mean LOL WOT U ON ABOUT |
| 14:20.41 | Marli | i go outside m8z |
| 14:20.43 | Ellipsis | http://icanhascheezburger.files.wordpress.com/2007/10/128340601289062500leavebritney.jpg |
| 14:20.51 | Ellipsis | Marli, l2pi |
| 14:20.56 | Marli | :< |
| 14:21.15 | Ellipsis | I don't go outside and I can do at least 4x the digits you can |
| 14:21.16 | *** join/#wowace Lopen|Wooork (n=lopen@207.74.131.76) |
| 14:21.16 | Ellipsis | so there |
| 14:21.26 | Marli | gz |
| 14:21.39 | Marli | why dont you tell the people on irc about it |
| 14:21.41 | deltron | Ellipsis: lmao @ that one |
| 14:22.16 | Ellipsis | Marli: maybe I will, because they're my only friends! /emo |
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| 14:22.24 | deltron | wtf I have like 200 spam emails from some bounced russian stuff :/ |
| 14:22.26 | Marli | :> ino,rite |
| 14:25.09 | Ellipsis | I haven't had any spam in the gmail account I use for WoW stuff o.O |
| 14:25.22 | Ellipsis | my other one is full of chinese spam though |
| 14:25.34 | Marli | mm i got a clean one and a spam one too |
| 14:25.40 | Marli | the spam filtering on gmail is great tho |
| 14:25.58 | Ellipsis | yeah |
| 14:26.12 | kadrahil | oh wow, i think i just possibly found the worst warlock in all of wow |
| 14:26.19 | kadrahil | http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Bladefist&n=Arilice |
| 14:26.32 | kadrahil | i just cried a little |
| 14:26.43 | Ellipsis | oh god |
| 14:26.49 | Ellipsis | I thought *I* was a nooblock |
| 14:27.36 | kadrahil | if they ever tried to kill me i'd just laugh as their dots ticked for like 200 and my pet ripped them to shreds |
| 14:27.43 | sb | yay |
| 14:27.43 | Towbar | lol did you get that from the forums? |
| 14:27.44 | sb | healing lock |
| 14:27.48 | kadrahil | yeah |
| 14:27.51 | Ellipsis | maybe they could heal you to death with their physician hat and oshu'gun relic |
| 14:27.54 | Towbar | yea i saw that threa :) |
| 14:27.57 | Towbar | thread* |
| 14:28.08 | kadrahil | what thread did it come from? it was posted on my realm forums |
| 14:28.10 | Towbar | "whats with the healing neck" repeated many times |
| 14:28.20 | Ellipsis | rofl |
| 14:28.22 | kadrahil | nono |
| 14:28.25 | kadrahil | that's a +defense neck |
| 14:28.31 | Ellipsis | 5/5 cataclysm instead of ISB... |
| 14:28.32 | sb | +0 Intellect? |
| 14:28.39 | sb | shoulder |
| 14:28.54 | Towbar | +26 rofl |
| 14:28.57 | Towbar | 26 ap |
| 14:29.02 | Ellipsis | 2/2 imp firebolt instead of the last point of devestation + shadowburn |
| 14:29.04 | kadrahil | oh weird, shoulderpads of int with +0 int |
| 14:29.30 | Towbar | 185 +dmg at 70 |
| 14:29.32 | Towbar | rofl |
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| 14:29.51 | kadrahil | i want the original thread |
| 14:29.54 | deltron | wtf @ those shoulders |
| 14:30.03 | CIA-12 | 03kunda * r50937 10AHsearch/ (5 files): (log message trimmed) |
| 14:30.04 | CIA-12 | AHsearch: |
| 14:30.04 | CIA-12 | - changed: names in option menu (eg: 'Delete category' -> 'Category: Delete' and so on...) |
| 14:30.04 | CIA-12 | - changed: 'Rename category' and 'Sort category' merged to 'Category: Edit' |
| 14:30.04 | CIA-12 | - changed: 'Change search query' and 'Sort search query' merged to 'Search query: Edit' |
| 14:30.04 | CIA-12 | - added: DBVersionCheck |
| 14:30.06 | CIA-12 | - added option: toggle tooltip |
| 14:30.17 | Ellipsis | according to the item page, should be +40 int for the "of int" ones o.O |
| 14:30.27 | *** join/#wowace Kalman| (n=delay@dhcp27.public.dc.umich.edu) |
| 14:30.28 | kadrahil | deltron: s/those shoulders// |
| 14:30.38 | deltron | heh |
| 14:30.48 | deltron | wtf @ itemization? |
| 14:31.18 | kadrahil | 185 spell dmg.. isn't that what a level 20 has? |
| 14:31.40 | deltron | nah maybe 55ish |
| 14:31.48 | deltron | without enchants |
| 14:31.52 | kadrahil | ah |
| 14:32.14 | deltron | not much spell damage gear at lower levels really |
| 14:32.17 | xyu` | he's probably not even serious |
| 14:32.22 | xyu` | it's probably all a big gag |
| 14:32.23 | xyu` | harhar! |
| 14:32.35 | Marli | saw a warlock with full primal mooncloth set |
| 14:32.36 | kadrahil | it has to be |
| 14:32.39 | Marli | pretty expensive joke |
| 14:32.52 | xyu` | what else do people have to spend money on |
| 14:32.53 | Ellipsis | but it's not just his gear |
| 14:33.04 | Ellipsis | his talents are screwed too, so it can't be just a set he puts on for armory |
| 14:33.22 | xyu` | i can make a talent for armory and forum posts too |
| 14:33.31 | xyu` | what's it, like 50g and 3 minutes? |
| 14:33.43 | Grum | lol |
| 14:33.46 | Grum | i want that locK! |
| 14:33.54 | Grum | he's imba .. <200 spelldmg ftl |
| 14:34.03 | xyu` | well what we need now |
| 14:34.12 | Grum | hot sex? |
| 14:34.12 | xyu` | is a PVP vid of him wtfpwning T6 players |
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| 14:34.51 | Towbar | lol have you seen the tickle me emo vid yet? |
| 14:34.52 | xyu` | with neat zoom ins and tupac music playing in the background, with lense flare |
| 14:34.54 | kebinusan | I hate trying to calculate gear changes... its like ok.. if swap x for y, then resocket z to replace lost stat a is damage greater than b |
| 14:34.55 | xyu` | can't forget the lense flare |
| 14:35.02 | qwesto | I wouldn't drop my arena ratings that low for a joke ^^ |
| 14:35.03 | Ellipsis | kebinusan: l2addons |
| 14:35.09 | kebinusan | Ellipsis: recommendation |
| 14:35.12 | Ellipsis | ItemValue |
| 14:35.25 | Towbar | tickle me emo vid: http://youtube.com/watch?v=4nRNYG_xM2U |
| 14:35.29 | Towbar | quite funny |
| 14:35.49 | xyu` | that assumes you had good ratings to begin with |
| 14:36.15 | kebinusan | Ellipsis: ty |
| 14:36.18 | xyu` | before this "rating matching" i had a team w/ full pvp armor, well players get on a team that was 1100 rating lol |
| 14:36.19 | kebinusan | looks helpful |
| 14:36.25 | xyu` | it was so fun playing people and watch them lose 30 points |
| 14:36.31 | xyu` | because they lost to us |
| 14:36.55 | xyu` | then we'd go and lose 7 more, had to keep rating down. |
| 14:37.08 | sag_ich_nicht | hi. |
| 14:37.14 | xyu` | ni hao |
| 14:37.23 | Grum | hihi |
| 14:37.24 | sag_ich_nicht | is there a way to make eepanels "follow" chatframe resizings? |
| 14:37.40 | xyu` | believe not, if so it's beyond me. |
| 14:37.49 | xyu` | but it's a good idea, if it does exist |
| 14:37.50 | Ellipsis | sag_ich_nicht, you can with eePanels2 |
| 14:37.59 | sag_ich_nicht | how. |
| 14:38.04 | Ellipsis | just add a script that hooks the size changed handler |
| 14:38.26 | Ellipsis | the eePanels2 thread has a lot of script help, especially for simple resize matching |
| 14:38.32 | Ellipsis | go thar |
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| 14:39.48 | sag_ich_nicht | k thx |
| 14:42.21 | Kaydeethree | new PTR up! current build: 0.2.3.7344. 3K diff at http://spyglass-server.com/wowints |
| 14:42.30 | Kaydeethree | nothing important changed |
| 14:43.16 | Ellipsis | lame |
| 14:43.17 | xyu` | new instance on it? |
| 14:43.19 | *** join/#wowace TehSuicide (n=your@p5B07612F.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 14:43.22 | deltron | nope |
| 14:43.24 | deltron | that's 2.3 |
| 14:43.30 | dodga | Hm, does DogTag's TalentSpec/TalentTree use Tattle's information for hostile players? |
| 14:43.31 | xyu` | oh |
| 14:43.36 | sb | dodga: no |
| 14:43.38 | xyu` | well i saw Current build 0.2.3 and assumed |
| 14:43.40 | xyu` | 2.3 :) |
| 14:43.42 | dodga | sb: bleh :P |
| 14:43.49 | dodga | It should :P |
| 14:43.55 | sb | query via librockcomm |
| 14:44.03 | Kaydeethree | 2.2.3, not 2.3.0 |
| 14:44.10 | Kaydeethree | 2.3 on the ptr will be build 0.3.0 |
| 14:46.07 | Grum | dodga: datamine the armory and provide it yourself? |
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| 14:46.39 | TehSuicide | hello,can anyone telle me how i can resize the eepanels2 with my chat? if the chat gets smaller the panels gets smaller too..i can't find something on the wowace page :( |
| 14:47.18 | *** part/#wowace Nightdew_ (n=Nightdew@68.143.218.130.nw.nuvox.net) |
| 14:47.26 | dodga | huh? wouldn't it be more.. sensible to just put something like this in DogTag: if tattle installd and player is hostile provide data from tattle else query via rockcomm |
| 14:47.41 | dodga | why would I need to datamine the armory if there is already an addon that does this |
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| 14:48.48 | Ellipsis | dodga: put a feature request on jira to check for Tattle and use its data |
| 14:49.36 | Dezzimal | wait |
| 14:49.40 | Dezzimal | how can tattle query armory |
| 14:49.46 | Dezzimal | I thought things like that were pretty forbidden |
| 14:49.53 | sag_ich_nicht | uh |
| 14:49.54 | sag_ich_nicht | no |
| 14:49.57 | dodga | Dezzimal: It does not query the armory |
| 14:50.07 | dodga | It datamines it, meaning it crawls through all the armory pages |
| 14:50.14 | sag_ich_nicht | because LOL INTERNET. website datamining! |
| 14:50.22 | sag_ich_nicht | and now i drive home |
| 14:50.23 | sag_ich_nicht | bye :X |
| 14:50.27 | deltron | cya |
| 14:50.28 | sag_ich_nicht | oh and |
| 14:50.28 | Ellipsis | <3 sag_ich_nicht |
| 14:50.37 | Dezzimal | so is there a tattle_data addon or w/e? |
| 14:50.41 | sag_ich_nicht | ~poke Antiarc |
| 14:50.41 | purl | ACTION cuts down a small tree, sneaks up behind Antiarc, pokes Antiarc repeatedly, hilarity ensues. |
| 14:50.42 | Dezzimal | or do I mine armory myself? |
| 14:50.53 | sag_ich_nicht | Ellipsis keep poking him with that tree, please, while i'm gone. |
| 14:50.55 | Ellipsis | Dezzimal, someone provides updates...idk where, maybe on the forums |
| 14:50.57 | Ellipsis | yes sir |
| 14:51.02 | Ellipsis | wait, did you find your bug? |
| 14:51.09 | sag_ich_nicht | no. |
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| 14:51.12 | Ellipsis | or are you just poking him to be mean |
| 14:51.15 | sag_ich_nicht | maybe you will accidently poke the codefix for it into him |
| 14:51.17 | kadrahil | mining the armory, character sheets sell for 25g a stack |
| 14:51.38 | Grum | i wonder if i can prospect it kadrahil |
| 14:51.43 | Dezzimal | how I mine for fish? |
| 14:51.43 | kadrahil | :P |
| 14:52.09 | kadrahil | ugh i forgot to get caffiene this morning |
| 14:52.22 | dodga | Hm |
| 14:52.36 | dodga | There is no project for LibDogTag.. should I file it into CowTip then? |
| 14:52.48 | Ellipsis | I suppose so |
| 14:52.53 | Dezzimal | http://vicissitude.net/Images/BoondockSaints-IsItDead.gif |
| 14:53.00 | dodga | Aye mon capitain! |
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| 14:53.36 | Ackis | does anyone know why tabs don't show up in chat (by tabs I mean \t)? |
| 14:53.56 | Grum | they do show up, as nothing |
| 14:54.01 | Grum | why would you want to use tabs? |
| 14:54.09 | Ackis | have an indentation for text |
| 14:54.11 | Ellipsis | if you copy/paste code or something in game o.O |
| 14:54.19 | SunTsu | I would want to use tabs - just like IRC, Name completion ;) |
| 14:54.20 | Grum | Ackis: spaces? |
| 14:54.24 | Grum | SunTsu: get Prat |
| 14:54.30 | deltron | you can copy and paste.. |
| 14:54.34 | SunTsu | Grum: I planned to ;) |
| 14:54.42 | Grum | you dont have it? *TASER ON YOU* |
| 14:54.44 | Ellipsis | hmm |
| 14:54.46 | Pkekyo | anyone know the news on Half-Life 2: Black Box? |
| 14:54.56 | Ackis | Grum, I was hoping to use a single tab for it... guess I can't win... spaces it is :) |
| 14:54.59 | SunTsu | If my computer is up and running again |
| 14:55.08 | Ellipsis | any recommendations for a notepad addon? |
| 14:55.09 | Grum | SunTsu: you are on irc .. my .. magic? |
| 14:55.12 | Ellipsis | just text, no lua plzes |
| 14:55.20 | Grum | Ellipsis: Omibus can do what you want and more |
| 14:55.25 | Grum | Omnibus even |
| 14:55.25 | Ellipsis | >_< |
| 14:55.31 | Ellipsis | the "more" part is what I was hoping to avoid |
| 14:55.37 | SunTsu | Grum: ack, omnibus is neat |
| 14:55.37 | Grum | why? |
| 14:55.38 | deltron | Pkekyo: there is no black box anymore :( |
| 14:55.44 | Ellipsis | Grum: I am a minimalist |
| 14:55.46 | Grum | more is not always bad! |
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| 14:55.55 | Ellipsis | more than I need is always bad. |
| 14:55.55 | Grum | you have a rather big ass for a minimalist! O.o |
| 14:56.09 | kadrahil | oh dear |
| 14:56.10 | SunTsu | Ellipsis: Omnibus just rocks. |
| 14:56.11 | Ellipsis | because it's dead code and wasted resources, no matter how trivial the amounts of each are |
| 14:56.20 | Ellipsis | Grum: no u |
| 14:56.22 | Grum | make it yourself? O.o |
| 14:56.27 | Grum | my ass is hhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuge |
| 14:56.32 | Ellipsis | I have enough things I'm making myself already |
| 14:56.41 | kadrahil | Ellipsis likes big butts, he cannot lie |
| 14:56.45 | Ellipsis | ... |
| 14:56.45 | SunTsu | Grum: Well, not every machine you can chat with is suitable for WoW |
| 14:56.57 | Grum | *hypnotizes* Ellipsis - use teh Omnibus! |
| 14:57.04 | zariel | wobim, can you make mrplow filter junk in reverse put it at the start of the bags please? |
| 14:57.07 | kadrahil | Get to teh omnibus! |
| 14:57.30 | Ellipsis | I can lie, but I'm not a he either |
| 14:57.33 | SunTsu | Ellipsis: omnibus can make different categories and you can execute lua right in it. Quite neat |
| 14:58.01 | Ellipsis | but I don't *need* that |
| 14:58.03 | Pkekyo | deltron: say what?! why not?! |
| 14:58.07 | Ellipsis | I want to store a bit of text |
| 14:58.08 | Ellipsis | that's all |
| 14:58.23 | Grum | lets see, i think Omnibus is what you are looking for |
| 14:58.40 | Grum | it's not that bloatware as you say |
| 14:58.47 | Grum | it has some more options .. but unless you fiddle with em .. who cares |
| 14:58.50 | Grum | they lie dorment |
| 14:58.52 | SunTsu | Ellipsis: AuldLangSyne adds a "Notes"-Tab to the character |
| 14:59.07 | Ellipsis | it's not for characters |
| 14:59.12 | Grum | then what is it for? |
| 14:59.23 | Ellipsis | random stuff |
| 14:59.26 | Ellipsis | like a to-do list |
| 14:59.41 | Grum | pen&paper .. although that might be somewhat advanced |
| 14:59.59 | Ellipsis | like right now I want to write down "things to buy next time I'm in an AH city" |
| 15:00.02 | Grum | you can do it without paper, just write it on the wall .. assuming you have walls |
| 15:00.03 | Ellipsis | >_> |
| 15:00.22 | Grum | and you can stop wasting ink because .. well .. you could memorize it |
| 15:00.34 | Grum | Ellipsis: so you want WowPostits? :) |
| 15:00.36 | Ellipsis | I can't memorize it...I can only memorize numbers =[ |
| 15:00.37 | Ellipsis | sorta |
| 15:00.47 | Grum | then memorize the ascii codes |
| 15:00.48 | sb | them memorize item ids |
| 15:00.51 | Grum | for the letters |
| 15:00.53 | sb | then |
| 15:01.26 | Ellipsis | sb: quick, tell me what the item ID is for the blue-quality Glowing gem plzs |
| 15:01.42 | sb | uhm |
| 15:01.46 | sb | 42? |
| 15:01.51 | Ellipsis | ~fail sb |
| 15:01.51 | purl | sb: Fail. |
| 15:02.08 | Grum | glowing gem? |
| 15:02.09 | durcyn | 24056 of course |
| 15:02.22 | durcyn | everyone knows that. |
| 15:02.31 | Grum | true |
| 15:02.33 | Grum | i agree |
| 15:03.03 | Grum | but Ellipsis: make ShoppinglistFu |
| 15:03.27 | haarm | although she could have meant 18523 |
| 15:03.39 | haarm | not sure if it actually counts as a "gem" though |
| 15:04.05 | Grum | its not blue quality |
| 15:04.10 | haarm | it sure is |
| 15:04.19 | Grum | it looks green! |
| 15:04.20 | SunTsu | .o0( There once was a titan plugin, which managed todo lists zone or coordinate based. That was quite usable - if titan was at all ) |
| 15:04.33 | Marli | If I right click someone in my friends list there is an option for "Copy Text" what addon is that and wtf does it do |
| 15:05.03 | haarm | i think it appeared when i installed prat |
| 15:05.07 | haarm | could be wrong though |
| 15:05.20 | Ellipsis | it's uh...the copy text thingy? |
| 15:05.38 | Marli | THX Ellipsis |
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| 15:05.53 | Marli | mm seems to be prat |
| 15:05.55 | Grum | will probably copy the line that person said? |
| 15:05.59 | Marli | cant work out what it does tho |
| 15:06.15 | Ellipsis | copies the line probably |
| 15:06.18 | Marli | So it does |
| 15:06.19 | Grum | paste it (and make sure you just cybered) |
| 15:06.29 | haarm | hangelog-Prat-r50926.txt:325:Prat: Added "copy text" to the right click menu of the playerlinks. |
| 15:07.13 | Grum | very useful |
| 15:07.44 | haarm | its used in the CopyChat module, so guess it copies anything they said to you *shrug* |
| 15:08.08 | Marli | IT DOES OK |
| 15:08.14 | Grum | YOU SURE? |
| 15:08.19 | xyu` | OH EM GEE |
| 15:08.26 | SunTsu | CAPS ANYONE? |
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| 15:08.27 | xyu` | caps lock is cruise control for cool people |
| 15:08.44 | Grum | ME IS COOL KID |
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| 15:09.51 | Grum | meeean 'Running world of warcraft through are remote desktop is not supported' :'() |
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| 15:15.07 | SunTsu | Grum: I used to watch my auctions from work via vnc. Moving was great, I kept yelling "I am no bot, I use vnc" - because my movement was real jerky |
| 15:15.30 | mort | interesting idea |
| 15:16.03 | xyu` | off to class! |
| 15:16.45 | Towbar | grum: vnc works |
| 15:16.48 | Towbar | for remote wow |
| 15:16.54 | Grum | was going to install vnc indeed |
| 15:16.56 | Towbar | but its slow |
| 15:17.00 | Grum | just wanted to reload my ui to see my addon |
| 15:17.02 | Grum | i dont care |
| 15:17.10 | Towbar | i use ultra vnc to do a huge amount of work |
| 15:17.21 | Towbar | vpn's and vnc ftw :D |
| 15:17.37 | SunTsu | .o0( tightvnc over openvpn ) |
| 15:17.45 | Marli | Wouldnt you need a sick couple of PCs and net connection to use vnc for wow |
| 15:18.18 | Towbar | yea but do windowed 16 bit 800x600 and you can do AH crap etc |
| 15:18.26 | SunTsu | MAybe with my new machine this will actually be usable. Hm, I think I should try again |
| 15:19.06 | Marli | http://img.4chan.org/b/src/1191510606885.jpg ,_, can i has trashcan plx |
| 15:19.55 | Ellipsis | o.o |
| 15:20.07 | Necrathex | that real? |
| 15:20.08 | kebinusan | marli yeah that was on digg a while back, its a coconut crab or somethin |
| 15:20.09 | Grum | his ass looks like a quarter-pounder |
| 15:20.39 | neenee | What is the 'alternate map' of Cartographer for? At the moment it just seems to toggle Mining mapnotess |
| 15:20.44 | Marli | sweet |
| 15:22.19 | durcyn | neenee: it's to allow you to toggle back and forth between too views, i.e. one small transparent clickthrough map, then a normal zone/world map |
| 15:22.31 | durcyn | two rather, need to stop typing phonetically |
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| 15:24.50 | neenee | er okay |
| 15:25.05 | neenee | So I have to setup that second map to use it. Oki. |
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| 15:26.46 | lprich | Cartographer is nice. the WAU is very nice. |
| 15:29.54 | the-golem_ | i need to scrap my mods and start afresh |
| 15:30.16 | the-golem_ | i think i somehow borked my action bars, among other things |
| 15:30.31 | the-golem_ | Bongos *refuses* to be profile-persistant |
| 15:31.20 | lprich | what does bongos do? |
| 15:32.38 | Ellipsis | Bongos is an action bar addon |
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| 15:33.21 | lprich | So it can replace all my little default button locations? |
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| 15:39.08 | lordgreg | hello everyone. did anyone else noticed some addons as bongos, simpleminimap, fubar etc they moved like.. 50px to the left and a bit to the bottom? |
| 15:40.34 | lordgreg | ...or if anyone knows what the problem could be? |
| 15:40.52 | neenee | not I |
| 15:41.22 | Hjalte | lordgreg - does /console uiscale 0.9 help? |
| 15:43.23 | dylanm | I have noticed some odd things with spacing and such... I just moved everything around until it looked okay again :-/ |
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| 15:43.35 | neenee | Is there a way to disable the 'show mana when shapeshifted' feature of Pitbull? |
| 15:44.00 | lordgreg | i'll check Hjalte |
| 15:44.20 | Ellipsis | neenee: disable the DruidMana plugin |
| 15:44.56 | lordgreg | nope- didn't helped |
| 15:45.38 | ulic | Hjalte: it was .9 in 2.2, but in 2.2.2 they put it back to 1.0 |
| 15:45.44 | neenee | Hm |
| 15:45.47 | ulic | I'm pretty sure |
| 15:45.47 | Hjalte | ulic, ah, i see |
| 15:46.02 | haarm | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b2bExqhhWRI+ scarey stuff |
| 15:46.03 | ulic | so everyone who adjusted for 2.2 had to readjust for 2.2.2 :( |
| 15:46.08 | neenee | Ellipsis, that seems to do it, thanks. Now to figure out how to show a mana bar instead of text. |
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| 15:46.31 | Hjalte | ulic: not me |
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| 15:47.01 | lordgreg | that's crap:) |
| 15:47.04 | ulic | well I adjusted before I learned of the uiscale hack |
| 15:47.12 | lordgreg | well.. i know what was the reason for my problem though |
| 15:47.13 | lordgreg | ty |
| 15:48.05 | SunTsu | uiscale doesn't workk for me anymore |
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| 15:48.39 | Nimh | ehlo |
| 15:49.06 | tronned | helo |
| 15:51.14 | Nimh | anyone knows is it possible to make Grid auto adjust to group size or at least number of groups? |
| 15:51.32 | sag_ich_nicht | [17:17] <SunTsu> .o0( tightvnc over openvpn ) <--lol. |
| 15:51.33 | ulic | anyone play a shammy in kara? I've read a few places that they can purge Maiden's debuff, but that doesn't seem right to me as the tooltip says "enemy's". |
| 15:51.40 | sag_ich_nicht | why not just use an ssh tunnel >< |
| 15:51.57 | sag_ich_nicht | (unless you need the VPN, in which case you should STILL use the ssh tunnel) |
| 15:52.05 | tronned | openvpn is awesome :) |
| 15:52.11 | SunTsu | sag_ich_nicht: Why, wehn you already have an openvpn infrastructure? |
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| 15:52.17 | SunTsu | when even |
| 15:52.32 | Lout | Nimh: I just set it to 40 and removed the background |
| 15:52.52 | tronned | openvpn with redirected gateway > corporate firewall |
| 15:53.08 | sag_ich_nicht | SunTsu: yeah, to prevent in-vpn sniffing. :P |
| 15:53.08 | steev64 | ulic: lern2groundingtotem |
| 15:53.16 | sag_ich_nicht | lern2paranoid security. |
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| 15:53.35 | SunTsu | sag_ich_nicht: Well, I am the only user that I know of ;) |
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| 15:53.45 | sag_ich_nicht | SunTsu: *sigh* |
| 15:54.07 | Affen_Uzglug | wtf, where is ckknight? |
| 15:54.16 | steev64 | he ran away |
| 15:54.30 | Affen_Uzglug | that talent tag is a nice idea, but to have it default active is like.. uhm? |
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| 15:55.48 | tronned | gr, trying to output { UIParent:GetChildren() } to dewdrop is frustrating |
| 15:56.37 | Nimh | Lout, yeah, i meant the background itself.. |
| 15:57.57 | CIA-12 | 03funkydude * r50938 10BigWigs/Karazhan/Terestian.lua: BigWigs: Karazhan/Terestian: add sacrifice approximate cooldowm |
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| 16:00.44 | lolinternet | WTB list of all libraries that have been obsolated by newer versions/rewrites that offer a compatiblity layer |
| 16:00.57 | Ellipsis | WTS: your mom |
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| 16:01.04 | Ellipsis | 20g obo |
| 16:01.06 | sag_ich_nicht | Ellipsis: okay |
| 16:01.18 | sag_ich_nicht | 2000g |
| 16:01.29 | sag_ich_nicht | the cooking is delicious and better than any repbot :X |
| 16:01.47 | durcyn | sag_ich_nicht: Parser, Tourist, Jostle, Abacus, Crayon so far |
| 16:02.39 | durcyn | and there's a stub addon for Babble, but iirc 3.0 isn't complete yet |
| 16:02.52 | Ellipsis | ooh, got the RaidUI error again ^-^ |
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| 16:05.16 | sag_ich_nicht | cool. my raidui is still tained and i don't know which addon is causing it. |
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| 16:05.21 | sag_ich_nicht | *tainted |
| 16:06.03 | Ellipsis | tainted? what is it doing? |
| 16:06.55 | sag_ich_nicht | well, the socials menu raidtab that is |
| 16:07.17 | sag_ich_nicht | not showing anyone while in combat, killing my fps to about 1 when open the raid tab, rightclick menu missing the set MT/set MA points |
| 16:08.00 | sag_ich_nicht | k thx durcyn |
| 16:08.14 | kebinusan | hmm trying to retrieve invalid items doesnt seem to DC you anymore |
| 16:08.25 | sag_ich_nicht | that is correct, kebinusan. |
| 16:08.32 | Aeyan | and awesome |
| 16:08.32 | sag_ich_nicht | this is a behaviour change introduced with 2.2 |
| 16:08.38 | Towbar | ./run for k = 27000, 28000 do GameTooltip:SetHyperlink("item:"..k) end |
| 16:08.47 | Towbar | some genius pasted that in here last night |
| 16:08.57 | Towbar | do that twice for 90% of BT MH loot |
| 16:09.17 | sag_ich_nicht | what |
| 16:09.28 | sag_ich_nicht | law |
| 16:09.29 | sag_ich_nicht | *lawl |
| 16:10.06 | Towbar | works a treat |
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| 16:11.03 | Samir | Hello guys. Im new to WoW addon scripting. I'm trying to find an event which notifies me when I sold an auction. Can somebody give me some adivce here? |
| 16:11.34 | Hjalte | Samir, I think Mailfu does that actually. |
| 16:11.52 | Samir | mailfu ?! |
| 16:11.53 | tronned | It does |
| 16:12.05 | sag_ich_nicht | ... |
| 16:12.09 | sag_ich_nicht | he asked for an event |
| 16:12.14 | sag_ich_nicht | not a fucking addon |
| 16:12.17 | sag_ich_nicht | christ |
| 16:12.19 | Samir | yeah well im trying to make an event about a users auction history |
| 16:12.44 | Samir | so it has to record my auctions and at which price they were sold |
| 16:12.49 | Samir | so mailfu does this actually ? |
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| 16:13.07 | lprich | Auctioneer remembers things like that, but I don't know that it lets you look them up... |
| 16:13.18 | lprich | maybe in AuctioneerAdvanced, but that's in alpha. |
| 16:13.21 | sag_ich_nicht | Samir: i suggest you go ask in #wowi-lounge, but this might help you: http://www.wowwiki.com/Events_A-Z_%28Full_List%29 |
| 16:13.37 | Samir | yeah i veen looking up the ace events |
| 16:13.40 | Hjalte | Samir, Mailfu just looks at the system message when you get mail because of an auction mail or so. Won't be what you're after. |
| 16:13.53 | Samir | but the ace event about auctions arent good documented. i dont know which event herre is the right one |
| 16:14.07 | Samir | ok i will have qa look at mailfu |
| 16:14.28 | sylvanaar | haarm something wrong with my chat copy stuff? |
| 16:14.53 | haarm | sylvanaar, dunno, doesn't do anything when i click it :) |
| 16:15.02 | sag_ich_nicht | Samir: UPDATE_PENDING_MAIL |
| 16:15.04 | Ellipsis | sigh |
| 16:15.06 | sag_ich_nicht | lern2google |
| 16:15.13 | sylvanaar | ... |
| 16:15.16 | Samir | okay thanks |
| 16:15.40 | Fisker- | awesome |
| 16:15.42 | Fisker- | polls for the forums |
| 16:15.48 | kebinusan | Towbar: where is the output from that supposed to be |
| 16:15.50 | haarm | sylvanaar, why is it in the friends list? |
| 16:15.57 | kebinusan | doesnt do squat for me |
| 16:15.59 | sylvanaar | haarm ask blizzard |
| 16:16.24 | sylvanaar | what version of prat |
| 16:16.40 | Samir | sag_ich_nicht : its not UPDATE_PENDING_MAIL. see this: Does not appear to trigger when auction outbid mail is received... may not in other cases as well |
| 16:16.42 | sylvanaar | because i fixed some bug related to WIM integration |
| 16:16.45 | haarm | whatever the latest one was 30 mins ago |
| 16:17.11 | sylvanaar | idk can you be more specific |
| 16:17.19 | haarm | no |
| 16:18.22 | sylvanaar | type /s . |
| 16:18.28 | sylvanaar | then right click and say copy |
| 16:19.09 | evl | Cheapest way to detect when a unit enters/leaves combat? |
| 16:19.34 | durcyn | evl: PLAYER_REGEN_ENABLED, PLAYER_REGEN_DISABLED |
| 16:19.47 | evl | I need it for other players too |
| 16:19.50 | evl | or for all units actually |
| 16:20.51 | tronned | regen best for showing get/lost aggro |
| 16:22.05 | Ellipsis | you know you're in a bad group when... |
| 16:22.06 | Ellipsis | >_> |
| 16:22.39 | Hjalte | Ellipsis: IM RET PALA I TANK 2H OKAY? |
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| 16:22.49 | Ellipsis | Hjalte: actually, we have a ret pally dps/OTing |
| 16:23.02 | Ellipsis | he's doing second highest damage (after me of course) |
| 16:23.12 | Ellipsis | then again...he's also doing *half* the damage I am |
| 16:23.15 | Hjalte | Ellipsis: I've had a prot paladin tank in my guild, they're fine, but not when this guy has no idea of how to tank :) |
| 16:23.17 | Ellipsis | less than half, actually |
| 16:23.22 | Ellipsis | and our hunter is doing less than him |
| 16:23.53 | Hjalte | Ellipsis: <3 warlocks ;) |
| 16:24.23 | Ellipsis | ^-^ |
| 16:24.32 | Ellipsis | I'm gonna have to screenie this damage meter |
| 16:24.34 | Ellipsis | it's very lulz |
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| 16:26.19 | sag_ich_nicht | [18:22] <Hjalte> Ellipsis: IM RET PALA I TANK 2H OKAY? <--hey shut up, ret paladins can tank non-heroic fine, and offtank pretty much all of karazhan >.> |
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| 16:27.05 | sag_ich_nicht | oooooooooooookay |
| 16:27.05 | NivFreak | I've heard that asserted before... |
| 16:27.10 | NivFreak | :) |
| 16:27.10 | Hjalte | sag_ich_nicht: This specific paladin had bought his account and was tanking with a 2h weapon in a dungeon he could barely enter :) |
| 16:27.10 | QuantumDelta | yea they only go splat when moroes looks at them if he's enraged :P |
| 16:27.18 | sag_ich_nicht | Hjalte: *sigh* |
| 16:27.24 | QuantumDelta | LOL |
| 16:27.28 | sag_ich_nicht | deleting the content of the deprecated addons and mkdiring a .svn folder |
| 16:27.29 | QuantumDelta | Ebay -> Gkick |
| 16:27.29 | QuantumDelta | :< |
| 16:27.31 | sag_ich_nicht | wasn't a good idea. |
| 16:27.37 | durcyn | eh, one of our holy paladins tanks heroic SH with no problems |
| 16:27.48 | QuantumDelta | heroic SH is zzz |
| 16:27.49 | durcyn | maybe the trick is just to not be stupid |
| 16:28.06 | sag_ich_nicht | WoW gets stucking in an endless loop at load because of that. |
| 16:28.37 | sag_ich_nicht | wonder which one is causing it |
| 16:30.57 | CIA-12 | 03ackis * r50939 10AckisRecipeList/ (ARLLocals-enUS.lua AckisRecipeList.lua): |
| 16:30.57 | CIA-12 | AckisRecipeList: |
| 16:30.57 | CIA-12 | - Alchemy should be 100% localized to enUS, feel free to start translations :) |
| 16:31.14 | Ackis | wow localization = lot of C&P |
| 16:31.23 | sag_ich_nicht | yes. |
| 16:31.26 | sag_ich_nicht | but |
| 16:31.32 | sag_ich_nicht | that's true for ANY localization |
| 16:31.39 | sag_ich_nicht | i've worked in game translation before |
| 16:31.39 | sag_ich_nicht | >.> |
| 16:31.55 | Ackis | ugh |
| 16:32.13 | Ackis | I don't think I could do that... lol |
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| 16:32.24 | sag_ich_nicht | why do you think i don't work there anymore? :P |
| 16:32.24 | Silowyi | does prat have a gui config? |
| 16:32.48 | sag_ich_nicht | yes. |
| 16:32.55 | Ackis | lmao |
| 16:32.58 | sag_ich_nicht | but i'm not telling you how to access it. |
| 16:33.07 | tronned | lol |
| 16:33.17 | CIA-12 | 03gagorian * r50940 10FuBar_SoulJarFu/ (FuBar_SoulJarFu.toc SoulJarFu.lua): |
| 16:33.17 | CIA-12 | FuBar_SoulJarFu: |
| 16:33.17 | CIA-12 | - TOC update |
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| 16:36.28 | Silowyi | hmm /prat waterfall |
| 16:36.32 | Silowyi | how delightfully obscure |
| 16:38.44 | sag_ich_nicht | okay what the fuck |
| 16:39.22 | sag_ich_nicht | something is breaking my WoW from loading. |
| 16:39.33 | Silowyi | this thing has like |
| 16:39.36 | Silowyi | a billion options |
| 16:39.43 | sag_ich_nicht | modules. |
| 16:39.45 | sag_ich_nicht | with options. |
| 16:39.50 | sag_ich_nicht | not options on itself. |
| 16:40.18 | Silowyi | hmm |
| 16:40.26 | Silowyi | seems to conflict with ct_core for chat timestamps though |
| 16:40.35 | tronned | die nil frames! |
| 16:40.50 | sag_ich_nicht | duh |
| 16:40.53 | sag_ich_nicht | ct_core sucks |
| 16:40.59 | tronned | Silowyi: Disable Time Stamps module? |
| 16:41.20 | Silowyi | I want to use the one from Prat though, lol :P |
| 16:41.35 | Silowyi | the only reason I use CT_Core is for CT MailMod and CT BuffMod |
| 16:41.46 | Silowyi | if I could replace those, I'd dump it entirely |
| 16:41.55 | tronned | I have CT_MailMod and don't have CT_Core |
| 16:41.55 | Silowyi | so... time to look for replacements! |
| 16:43.04 | TNSe | mailmod is getting built in |
| 16:43.05 | TNSe | in 2.3 |
| 16:43.12 | TNSe | buffmod however is harder to rplace |
| 16:43.18 | Silowyi | I know on the mailmod |
| 16:43.29 | Silowyi | but you'd think somewhere there'd be a buffmod equiv |
| 16:43.33 | sag_ich_nicht | use postal instead of mailmod |
| 16:43.33 | Ellipsis | doagnuowebtbgowbue |
| 16:43.33 | Ellipsis | didn't drop. again. |
| 16:43.34 | Ellipsis | =[ |
| 16:43.37 | kebinusan | Postal<3 |
| 16:43.38 | sag_ich_nicht | buffmod i dunno |
| 16:43.44 | TNSe | + I need ctraid or ora |
| 16:43.45 | kebinusan | Bulkmail is good too tho |
| 16:43.56 | kebinusan | ElkBuffBars? |
| 16:44.03 | lprich | Postal FTW! |
| 16:44.10 | kebinusan | its been a while since Ive used ctbuffmod tho |
| 16:44.21 | Ellipsis | EBB can do anything |
| 16:44.25 | Ellipsis | XD |
| 16:44.36 | kebinusan | Theres also Buffalo which seems to be popular |
| 16:44.38 | sag_ich_nicht | there |
| 16:44.40 | sag_ich_nicht | now WoW SHOULD load |
| 16:44.43 | sag_ich_nicht | theoretically. |
| 16:45.03 | tronned | I heart EBB |
| 16:45.58 | Silowyi | hmm |
| 16:46.05 | sag_ich_nicht | still not loading |
| 16:46.13 | Silowyi | so apparently ct_MailMod, ExpenseHistory, and CT_BuffMod do not require CT_Core |
| 16:46.17 | Silowyi | yay! |
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| 16:46.29 | Elkano | EBB was even before the ct's buffbars (or at least their recode) iirc |
| 16:46.41 | Ellipsis | sag_ich_nicht |
| 16:46.47 | Ellipsis | what's not loading? o.O |
| 16:46.48 | Silowyi | I'll have to check it out |
| 16:47.05 | Silowyi | I'm gradually trying to replace my entire ui with wau addons |
| 16:47.10 | sag_ich_nicht | Ellipsis: WoW, it's getting stuck at the loading screen, while putting full load on core 1 |
| 16:47.16 | Ellipsis | o.O |
| 16:47.18 | Ellipsis | what did you do :P |
| 16:47.22 | sag_ich_nicht | i dunno |
| 16:47.23 | sag_ich_nicht | run WAU. |
| 16:47.27 | sag_ich_nicht | debugging now |
| 16:48.53 | sag_ich_nicht | definitivly some addons. |
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| 16:49.25 | CIA-12 | 03ackis * r50941 10AckisRecipeList/ (ARLLocals-enUS.lua AckisRecipeList.lua): |
| 16:49.26 | CIA-12 | AckisRecipeList: |
| 16:49.26 | CIA-12 | - Fixed bug with smelting detection |
| 16:49.26 | CIA-12 | - Added smelting localization to enUS |
| 16:49.43 | sag_ich_nicht | testing for addon conflicts |
| 16:49.52 | Astika | can a dewdrop menu (type = "group") args be a function? |
| 16:50.24 | sag_ich_nicht | not it, definitifly addon code problem itself. |
| 16:50.40 | Silowyi | When I right click someone I get a bunch of options... Far more than standard... anyone know what mod does that? |
| 16:51.01 | Ellipsis | sag_ich_nicht, addon list? |
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| 16:51.25 | Astika | Silowyi, what kind of options? |
| 16:51.36 | Silowyi | it was ScenRaid |
| 16:52.16 | sag_ich_nicht | Ellipsis: you really want that? |
| 16:52.17 | sag_ich_nicht | hold. |
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| 16:52.51 | Ellipsis | sag_ich_nicht: well we probably use a lot of the same addons, could eliminate mine and narrow down the list faster |
| 16:52.56 | Ellipsis | *shrug* just tryin to be helpful :P |
| 16:53.03 | Pkekyo | what ever happened to HL2: Black Box? :< |
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| 16:53.27 | sag_ich_nicht | Ellipsis: true enough |
| 16:53.58 | aestil | my laptop died. |
| 16:54.02 | Ellipsis | grats |
| 16:54.09 | aestil | well, the powersupply died. |
| 16:54.12 | Ellipsis | I promise I'll come to the funeral |
| 16:54.25 | aestil | they have promised to send me a new power supply : / |
| 16:54.32 | Ellipsis | hmm...which "they" |
| 16:54.32 | Bruners | ckknight: pitbull or pitbull 2.0? |
| 16:54.40 | aestil | dell. |
| 16:54.43 | Ellipsis | Bruners, what do you mean? |
| 16:54.52 | Ellipsis | aestil: so yeah, I'll be at the funeral |
| 16:54.56 | Astika | dell :( |
| 16:55.16 | aestil | i dunno, i called at like 9pm and got a person to talk to in like 3 minutes? |
| 16:55.20 | aestil | that wasn't too bad. |
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| 16:55.36 | Astika | aestil, what kind of laptop? |
| 16:55.38 | aestil | and i have it under the uber warrentee still. |
| 16:55.47 | aestil | Astika: XPS M1710 |
| 16:55.48 | sag_ich_nicht | Ellipsis accept |
| 16:55.53 | sag_ich_nicht | or want me to pastey it? |
| 16:55.53 | sag_ich_nicht | fine. |
| 16:56.14 | Ellipsis | sorry was alt-tabbed into game |
| 16:56.14 | Astika | aestil, oh nice. I have the older/elder M170 |
| 16:56.15 | Ellipsis | >_< |
| 16:56.33 | aestil | wait, mine might be the M170 |
| 16:56.34 | Ellipsis | aestil: is yours one with the shiny LED touchpad? |
| 16:56.40 | aestil | i'm not looking at it right now. |
| 16:56.46 | Ellipsis | ... |
| 16:56.53 | Ellipsis | you still ought to know whether your laptop has a GLOWING TOUCHPAD |
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| 16:56.57 | aestil | Ellipsis: i don't believe so. but, i also turned off the LED's in the BIOS |
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| 16:57.04 | Ellipsis | heh |
| 16:57.06 | sag_ich_nicht | Ellipsis: http://pastey.net/74823 |
| 16:57.06 | sag_ich_nicht | :P |
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| 16:57.19 | sag_ich_nicht | i can't tell you which ones are disabled tho Ellipsis :P |
| 16:57.19 | Ellipsis | k sag_ich_nicht, will re-pastey a list of possible culprits ^-^ |
| 16:57.33 | sag_ich_nicht | (dir /B btw.) |
| 16:57.41 | sag_ich_nicht | (and then diff it) |
| 16:58.29 | aestil | i bought my wife a real NIC last night, and she basically doesn't have lag anymore. on board nic sucks, which i did not know. |
| 16:58.35 | Ellipsis | yeah you're screwed sag_ich_nicht, I don't use hardly any of these x.x |
| 16:58.59 | sag_ich_nicht | see? |
| 16:59.16 | Ellipsis | the first non-lib one I also use is BT3, alphabetically |
| 16:59.17 | Ellipsis | >_> |
| 16:59.23 | sag_ich_nicht | lawl |
| 16:59.31 | aestil | if i was gonna buy a new computer for her, what cpu should i be looking at? |
| 16:59.34 | Ellipsis | fortunately a lot of those also aren't WAU-updated, so.. |
| 16:59.42 | sag_ich_nicht | yeah. |
| 16:59.43 | Ellipsis | you should be able to skip over a bunch when disabling stuffs |
| 17:00.19 | sag_ich_nicht | I'll just 50:50 disable them. |
| 17:00.30 | sag_ich_nicht | excluding libs. |
| 17:00.35 | Ellipsis | hf |
| 17:00.46 | Ellipsis | also: I don't think I like you anymore |
| 17:00.49 | Ellipsis | your addons dir is scary x.x |
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| 17:01.11 | sag_ich_nicht | [18:52] <sag_ich_nicht> Ellipsis: you really want that? |
| 17:01.16 | Fisker- | OH U |
| 17:01.16 | sag_ich_nicht | not like i didn't warn you. |
| 17:01.18 | Ellipsis | I assumed you were sane |
| 17:01.23 | Ellipsis | since you seem somewhat intelligent |
| 17:01.29 | Ellipsis | never again will I make that mistake |
| 17:01.35 | sag_ich_nicht | constant 60 fps |
| 17:01.36 | sag_ich_nicht | gtfo |
| 17:01.37 | sag_ich_nicht | >.> |
| 17:01.53 | Ellipsis | your computer must be stronger than Chuck Norris |
| 17:02.06 | sag_ich_nicht | Offenderserv is running Windows XP Professional, Service Pack 2 (5.1 - 2600) on an AMD Athlon(tm) 64 X2 Dual Core Processor 5200+ at 2.60 GHz with 1121/2048MB (54.74%) RAM free. |
| 17:02.06 | sag_ich_nicht | It has an NVIDIA GeForce 8800 GTX running at 1680x1050x32bpp 60Hz, SB Live! 24-bit, and 675.28 GB of 1294.81 GB available on 2 drive(s). |
| 17:02.09 | sag_ich_nicht | :X |
| 17:02.13 | Ellipsis | ...yeah |
| 17:02.17 | Ellipsis | ew, wait, 60hz? |
| 17:02.22 | sag_ich_nicht | LCD |
| 17:02.22 | sag_ich_nicht | duh |
| 17:02.27 | sag_ich_nicht | (should be 4GB, but the 2GB stick is in for RMA) |
| 17:02.28 | Megalon | all lcd run at 60fps |
| 17:02.29 | Megalon | :x |
| 17:03.15 | Ellipsis | bah just caught my eye |
| 17:04.00 | Ellipsis | oh my god |
| 17:04.06 | Ellipsis | this is how bad my group is |
| 17:04.21 | Megalon | easy to get the difference, lcd users tend to say "constant at 60".. all others say "i got 12 bazillion fps at max peak!" |
| 17:04.23 | Ellipsis | "<Huntard> rnt there any green meta sockets?" |
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| 17:04.39 | Ellipsis | green meta sockets? |
| 17:04.51 | Megalon | perhaps he means common meta gems |
| 17:05.26 | Ellipsis | even that way, gems != sockets o.O |
| 17:05.30 | Megalon | oh |
| 17:05.33 | Megalon | :S |
| 17:05.44 | sag_ich_nicht | mhm |
| 17:06.30 | Mecdemort | [Ammo]: I'm off to test the timers |
| 17:06.45 | [Ammo] | cool, added them to the .toc manually OI hope |
| 17:07.18 | Ackis | Ellipsis, it seems my mod is having more embedded library issues, but I'm not sure if it's my problem or a crayon problem |
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| 17:07.24 | Ellipsis | hrm |
| 17:07.25 | Mecdemort | ya |
| 17:07.28 | Ackis | any chance you could look at the thread |
| 17:07.33 | Ellipsis | sure thing |
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| 17:07.37 | Ackis | thanks |
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| 17:07.56 | Fisker- | just need to get off |
| 17:08.02 | Fisker- | moo: cpu: Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Quad CPU Q6600 @ 2.40GHz at 2400MHz |
| 17:08.04 | Fisker- | moo: ram: 652/3582.4MB (18.19%) [||--------] |
| 17:08.17 | neenee | Is there a way to prevent shift/ctrl + mousewheel / ctrl+number to change bars? |
| 17:08.27 | sag_ich_nicht | yeah |
| 17:08.27 | Fin | bind them to something else |
| 17:08.29 | sag_ich_nicht | remove the keybind. |
| 17:08.38 | Fisker- | fin sux :( |
| 17:08.40 | Fisker- | btw |
| 17:08.42 | Fin | DISCONNECT YOUR KEYBOARD |
| 17:08.45 | Fisker- | you never fixed anything! |
| 17:09.30 | Mecdemort | [Ammo]: does it require a person with bigwigs talk to the leaders? |
| 17:09.32 | [Ammo] | mcdemort for the boss with correct name announcement you need to be the one starting the event |
| 17:09.32 | Fin | huh... no response, maybe neenee actually did disconnect their keyboard |
| 17:09.36 | Fisker- | man i hate that stupid login screen |
| 17:09.58 | [Ammo] | otherwise it'll say: Boss spawn in 60 sec.. |
| 17:10.05 | [Ammo] | instead of Rage Winterchill spawn in 60 sec |
| 17:10.06 | Fisker- | FIX DUAL CORE ISSUES MR. BLIZZ |
| 17:10.25 | [Ammo] | it syncs the next boss though |
| 17:10.26 | Mecdemort | at least that's a graceful degredation |
| 17:10.31 | kebinusan | * Fixed an issue where zoning after mounting and summoning a pet was disconnecting players. |
| 17:10.36 | kebinusan | that explains alot |
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| 17:10.55 | Fisker- | http://i20.tinypic.com/2m3mycx.jpg |
| 17:10.58 | [Ammo] | yeah gracefukl |
| 17:12.19 | Ellipsis | Ackis, don't see anything wrong o.O |
| 17:12.20 | Fisker- | Gnarfoz |
| 17:12.21 | Fisker- | oh hi |
| 17:12.33 | Ellipsis | svn externals look right, embeds.xml entry is fine...iunno |
| 17:12.35 | [Ammo] | Mecdemort: let me know if it enables correctly upon entering and hovering Jaina Proudmoore or Thrall |
| 17:12.59 | Mecdemort | it's not active on entering so far |
| 17:13.03 | sag_ich_nicht | mhm |
| 17:13.07 | Mecdemort | but then none of them are |
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| 17:13.07 | sag_ich_nicht | seem to have found the culprint |
| 17:13.09 | [Ammo] | only on hover of Lady jaina |
| 17:13.09 | sag_ich_nicht | lemme renable |
| 17:13.11 | [Ammo] | or Thrall |
| 17:13.20 | Mecdemort | thrall turned it on |
| 17:13.30 | Mecdemort | dunno about jaina, we already did those 2 bosses |
| 17:13.33 | [Ammo] | yeah |
| 17:13.41 | [Ammo] | now all you need to do is talk :p |
| 17:13.44 | [Ammo] | and not talk :) |
| 17:13.49 | [Ammo] | to see if that works |
| 17:13.55 | [Ammo] | the rest of the code is pretty much the same as yours |
| 17:14.27 | neenee | fin sec |
| 17:14.33 | neenee | Ah okay |
| 17:14.35 | neenee | re-bind, let me check |
| 17:15.52 | sag_ich_nicht | ckknight |
| 17:15.54 | sag_ich_nicht | you are a bastard |
| 17:15.55 | Ackis | Ellipsis, I think it may be Crayon that has the problem... I reference Crayon, Crayon references LibRock |
| 17:15.56 | sag_ich_nicht | and a mean one |
| 17:16.44 | Fisker- | ~seen Gnarfoz |
| 17:16.59 | purl | gnarfoz is currently on #wowi-lounge #wowhead #wowace #wowwiki. Has said a total of 123 messages. Is idling for 18h 26m 27s, last said: 'red == gold'. |
| 17:16.59 | Mecdemort | hmm now that you may be able to tell which boss is next i'll add the 2nd set of times |
| 17:16.59 | Fisker- | i'm going to spam you Gnarfoz |
| 17:17.18 | Ellipsis | o.O |
| 17:17.57 | [Ammo] | what second set Mecdemort? |
| 17:18.15 | sag_ich_nicht | Ellipsis |
| 17:18.19 | sag_ich_nicht | wanna know the cause? |
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| 17:18.56 | Mecdemort | allianceWaveTimes is tuned for anetheron and about 30 seconds off of RWC, same with the horde set |
| 17:19.05 | [Ammo] | ah ok |
| 17:19.19 | [Ammo] | use the graceful fallbackt hough :) |
| 17:19.22 | Mecdemort | ya |
| 17:19.38 | Fisker- | if only i could turn back tiiiiiiiiiiiiimeeeeeeeee |
| 17:19.39 | sag_ich_nicht | !Scrooge |
| 17:19.40 | sag_ich_nicht | admit it |
| 17:19.44 | sag_ich_nicht | one of you intentionally broke it |
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| 17:22.06 | Saroz | ffs [Ammo], just made a lot of nice changes to WaveTimers |
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| 17:22.45 | m4rku5 | Fisker-, if you can turnback time i need another week to learn for my test lol |
| 17:23.05 | m4rku5 | [Ammo], whats the status on WaveTimers ? |
| 17:23.23 | [Ammo] | obsoleted once mecdemort finishes testing the HyjalSummit module in bigwigs proper |
| 17:23.40 | Mecdemort | who's messin with my wave timers? |
| 17:24.41 | Fisker- | well i want to turn back time so blizzard can support multi-core properly |
| 17:24.49 | Gnarfoz | Fisker-: what up dawg? |
| 17:25.09 | Ellipsis | oh god, this pug wants to use the voice chat =[ |
| 17:25.39 | Ackis | ROFL |
| 17:26.00 | sylvanaar | oh i was in one that did last night |
| 17:26.03 | sag_ich_nicht | Ellipsis: lawl |
| 17:26.07 | Ellipsis | /afk out |
| 17:26.07 | sylvanaar | no need |
| 17:26.15 | sag_ich_nicht | Ellipsis: !Scrooge broke it |
| 17:26.15 | sag_ich_nicht | :X |
| 17:26.19 | Ellipsis | I'm just pretending not to have a microphone |
| 17:26.23 | Ellipsis | sag_ich_nicht, fail't |
| 17:26.32 | Ellipsis | who maintains it? |
| 17:26.33 | sag_ich_nicht | someone *me points the finger at ckknight* must have INTENTIONALLY broken it. |
| 17:26.39 | sylvanaar | they were real nice tho |
| 17:26.46 | sag_ich_nicht | Shadowed does |
| 17:26.59 | sag_ich_nicht | but i don't think that's the reason for it causing that |
| 17:27.07 | Shadowed | !scrooge doesn't exist anymore |
| 17:27.09 | Shadowed | Scrooge does |
| 17:27.13 | sylvanaar | has Shadowed updated sspvp |
| 17:27.18 | sag_ich_nicht | same folder name, Shadowed |
| 17:27.18 | sylvanaar | oh |
| 17:27.27 | Shadowed | sag_ich_nicht, !Scrooge ~= Scrooge |
| 17:27.28 | Mecdemort | oh [Ammo], does "BigWigs_RebootModule" have very much overhead? |
| 17:27.30 | Shadowed | whats broken |
| 17:27.32 | sag_ich_nicht | okay, Shadowed |
| 17:27.34 | sag_ich_nicht | hold then |
| 17:27.35 | Fisker- | Gnarfoz ! |
| 17:27.38 | Fisker- | brewfest |
| 17:27.41 | Gnarfoz | yes? |
| 17:27.47 | sylvanaar | s/has Shadowed/Shadowed:/ |
| 17:27.50 | sag_ich_nicht | Shadowed: why did you kill the !? :X |
| 17:27.53 | Shadowed | yes syl |
| 17:27.56 | sylvanaar | fail |
| 17:28.00 | Fisker- | Yellow Brewfest Stein bugs up DrDamage |
| 17:28.06 | Fisker- | i think |
| 17:28.07 | Fisker- | :P |
| 17:28.09 | Shadowed | you know sag, if you actually explained what you're complaining about |
| 17:28.11 | Shadowed | i'd answer you |
| 17:28.13 | sylvanaar | Shadowed cool |
| 17:28.18 | vhaarr | Mecdemort: quite a bit, depending on the module |
| 17:28.19 | sag_ich_nicht | Shadowed: well |
| 17:28.23 | vhaarr | Mecdemort: why do you ask? |
| 17:28.27 | sag_ich_nicht | Shadowed: i still had !Scrooge |
| 17:28.47 | Fisker- | well doesn't anymore it seems |
| 17:28.50 | sag_ich_nicht | and it caused WoW to lock itself at 100% usage of core #1 of my dual core during loading |
| 17:29.06 | Shadowed | delete it, get scrooge |
| 17:29.11 | sag_ich_nicht | i just did. |
| 17:29.14 | Mecdemort | The reason i had to seperate "SummitReset" into "HyjalBossDead" and "ResetWaves" is because you get spanned with wave 0 a few times before it starts |
| 17:29.34 | Shadowed | I haven't had any issues yet, shouldn't be anywhere it could even get into an infinite loop |
| 17:30.00 | sag_ich_nicht | Shadowed: thus the assumption that someone must have intentionally introduced break behaviour if it it find scrooge :X |
| 17:30.05 | sag_ich_nicht | but lemme test |
| 17:30.12 | Shadowed | that would be incredibly amusing |
| 17:30.14 | Shadowed | try this |
| 17:30.17 | Mecdemort | s/spanned/spammed |
| 17:30.28 | Shadowed | rename scrooge to FooBar, rename Scrooge.toc to FooBar.toc and try again |
| 17:30.46 | sag_ich_nicht | i already deleted the old one |
| 17:30.58 | sag_ich_nicht | lemme try if it happens with the new one as well |
| 17:31.41 | sylvanaar | there that works, i just got it from your svn |
| 17:32.01 | Shadowed | It has to loop through a bunch of stuff sag, so if you had a large amount of rock/ace2 addons that could cause it |
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| 17:32.49 | Shadowed | But not much you can do about that, the tables are indexed by name so either way we're looping through it to see if new ones were added |
| 17:33.25 | sag_ich_nicht | still happening with the new one |
| 17:33.26 | sag_ich_nicht | well |
| 17:33.31 | sag_ich_nicht | it wasn't happening 3 days aggo |
| 17:33.33 | sag_ich_nicht | *ago |
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| 17:33.37 | sag_ich_nicht | so something must have changed. |
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| 17:33.43 | Shadowed | wait |
| 17:33.57 | Shadowed | You were using !Scrooge, 3 days ago it worked fine, and today without updating anything it magically broke? |
| 17:34.00 | sag_ich_nicht | ( Shadowed note that ckknight made a couple of rockconfig commits) |
| 17:34.04 | sag_ich_nicht | i updated. |
| 17:34.06 | sag_ich_nicht | today |
| 17:34.10 | sag_ich_nicht | but i didn't install anything new. |
| 17:34.18 | Shadowed | you're being confusing =p |
| 17:34.22 | sag_ich_nicht | no u |
| 17:34.24 | Shadowed | When did it break, and when did you last update Scrooge |
| 17:34.46 | Arcaia | what does Scrooge do? |
| 17:35.17 | Shadowed | it kills rock/ace2 donation buttons, and lets you choose if you want to respond to Rock talent requests and Rock/Ace2 ping requests |
| 17:35.44 | Arcaia | so nothing that i want to do |
| 17:35.47 | Arcaia | cool. |
| 17:35.48 | sag_ich_nicht | Shadowed: i just upgraded scrooge. |
| 17:35.58 | sag_ich_nicht | still happens with it :P |
| 17:36.06 | durcyn | you should probably rip out the rock portion, being as that's in the lib itself now. |
| 17:36.19 | Shadowed | sag |
| 17:36.20 | Mecdemort | vhaarr: is it ok if i commit to HyjalSummit? |
| 17:36.27 | Shadowed | did this happen BEFORE or AFTER you updated Scrooge |
| 17:36.27 | Arcaia | I say : u fail. |
| 17:36.33 | sag_ich_nicht | Shadowed: BOTH |
| 17:36.34 | durcyn | ~lart sag_ich_nicht |
| 17:36.34 | purl | strangles sag_ich_nicht with a doohicky mouse cord |
| 17:36.40 | Shadowed | okay you should have just said that |
| 17:36.44 | sag_ich_nicht | i did. |
| 17:36.53 | Shadowed | rename the Scrooge folder to FooBar, and the toc to FooBar.toc, see if it still happens. |
| 17:36.58 | sag_ich_nicht | i already am |
| 17:37.15 | sag_ich_nicht | i even renamed the .lua, edited the title and the .toc to match it all :P |
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| 17:38.02 | Shadowed | and it still happens, correct |
| 17:38.30 | winkiller | hm, I feel a bit strange |
| 17:38.43 | winkiller | guildchat: "what week do we have?" |
| 17:38.49 | winkiller | got no calendar, so $ php -r 'echo date("W");' |
| 17:38.57 | winkiller | :( |
| 17:39.13 | sag_ich_nicht | Shadowed: no, because i typo'd somewhere :X |
| 17:42.21 | CIA-12 | 03ackis * r50942 10AckisRecipeList/ (ARLLocals-enUS.lua AckisRecipeList.lua): |
| 17:42.21 | CIA-12 | AckisRecipeList: |
| 17:42.21 | CIA-12 | - First Aid recipes localized to enUS |
| 17:42.21 | CIA-12 | - Configuration options and command line localized to enUS |
| 17:42.22 | Mecdemort | anyone have access to a fresh hyjal instance? |
| 17:42.35 | durcyn | Mecdemort: I will in about 6 hours |
| 17:42.59 | xyu | i will in about WHEN WE KILL THAT BASTARD KAEL! |
| 17:43.05 | xyu | i shifted for emphasis, notice that? |
| 17:43.25 | Mecdemort | i figured your pinkey slipped and you hit capslock |
| 17:43.26 | sag_ich_nicht | mhm |
| 17:43.31 | Shadowed | haha |
| 17:43.32 | Shadowed | sag_ich_nicht |
| 17:43.34 | Shadowed | do this |
| 17:43.38 | sag_ich_nicht | that's interesting. |
| 17:43.50 | sag_ich_nicht | Shadowed: yes? :X |
| 17:44.06 | Shadowed | do you know what addons you have that are using LibRock? |
| 17:44.18 | sag_ich_nicht | sure. |
| 17:44.24 | Shadowed | how many? |
| 17:44.33 | sag_ich_nicht | +even if i wouldn't, i could just disabled librock to disable them all |
| 17:44.34 | sag_ich_nicht | uh |
| 17:44.35 | sag_ich_nicht | lemme check |
| 17:45.34 | Fisker- | hmm Gnarfoz |
| 17:45.42 | Fisker- | for some reason my holy light doesn't show healing or hide the macro test |
| 17:45.45 | Fisker- | but flash of light does |
| 17:45.50 | sag_ich_nicht | no wait i couldn't, because lol opt-deps not reqdeps |
| 17:45.57 | vhaarr | Mecdemort: show me a diff |
| 17:46.11 | Mecdemort | k, after im done testing i will |
| 17:46.31 | Shadowed | sag_ich_nicht, do you know how to force something to be one of the first addons loaded? |
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| 17:46.58 | CIA-12 | 03funkydude * r50943 10BigWigs/Hyjal/HyjalSummit.lua: BigWigs: Hyjal/HyjalSummit: minor tweaks |
| 17:47.41 | Shadowed | http://shadowed.pastey.net/74825 |
| 17:47.44 | Shadowed | you're such an idiot ckk |
| 17:47.57 | Shadowed | it's mind boggling |
| 17:48.03 | sag_ich_nicht | told you |
| 17:48.10 | Shadowed | I was trying to have faith that he wasn't stupid enough to do that |
| 17:48.17 | NightHawkAtWork | wait, what? |
| 17:48.26 | Mecdemort | ya currently the nextBoss is never changed from 'Boss' |
| 17:48.29 | Shadowed | NightHawkAtWork, he added code so if you have Scrooge installed it does a while true loop so you never load |
| 17:48.35 | Shadowed | (Added code to LibRock) |
| 17:48.43 | sag_ich_nicht | Shadowed: sure, rename the file to !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!lol then change the file creation modification and last access dates to 1.1.1970 :P |
| 17:49.10 | sag_ich_nicht | (that's the overcareful method ;P) |
| 17:49.19 | Shadowed | Wont do anything, he's not checking for scrooge he's checking if you modified donate |
| 17:49.22 | Shadowed | cute |
| 17:49.30 | Shadowed | and totally ineffective |
| 17:49.32 | sag_ich_nicht | i figure it would be something like that |
| 17:49.43 | sag_ich_nicht | (and told you so :P) |
| 17:50.06 | Shadowed | People told me he'd do that weeks ago, as I said. I was hoping he wasn't stupid enough to try it |
| 17:50.29 | kebinusan | Eh, scrooge is pretty much a pointless mod anyway imo |
| 17:50.45 | sag_ich_nicht | ...not. |
| 17:50.46 | Shadowed | kebinusan go away fanboi |
| 17:50.49 | kebinusan | donate things arent really intrustive in any way at all, just seems like some fanboi drama |
| 17:51.00 | sag_ich_nicht | Shadowed go make a workaround :X |
| 17:51.02 | kebinusan | I believe thats my line shadowed |
| 17:51.05 | Shadowed | already working on it |
| 17:51.14 | sag_ich_nicht | (or i'll just patch it out of librock) |
| 17:51.29 | sag_ich_nicht | (for now) |
| 17:51.32 | NightHawkAtWork | I suppose if i knew precisely what scrooge did, this would all make slightly more sense, but I still get the gist. |
| 17:51.41 | Shadowed | NightHawkAtWork, it removes donation buttons in Ace2/Rock |
| 17:52.08 | kebinusan | aka pointless |
| 17:52.12 | Shadowed | kebinusan shut up already |
| 17:52.21 | Shadowed | He checks if you modified the donation info, and then does a while true loop, nothing complicated |
| 17:52.39 | NightHawkAtWork | Yeah, I see that |
| 17:52.52 | Mecdemort | Funkeh`: what's your obsession with format() over .. ? |
| 17:53.21 | kebinusan | Why dont you just fork ace2/rock and remove the donate crap if it bothers you that much |
| 17:53.38 | NightHawkAtWork | can't we all just get along? |
| 17:54.19 | baer_ | did anything change in blizzard ui? |
| 17:54.30 | baer_ | i can't remove MTs from the MT list in oRA2. |
| 17:54.43 | Mecdemort | do you have promoted status? |
| 17:54.51 | baer_ | raid leader even. |
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| 17:55.22 | [Ammo] | known issue I think, will have to check why |
| 17:55.36 | aestil | ~what is scrooge |
| 17:55.37 | purl | ACTION is scrooge to understand recursion, you must first understand recursion |
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| 17:55.39 | Shadowed | sag_ich_nicht grab latest Scrooge and try that it should fix it |
| 17:55.44 | [Ammo] | my motivation to fix it is below zero on it though atm |
| 17:55.45 | CIA-12 | 03shadowed * r50944 10Scrooge/Scrooge.lua: Scrooge: Fixed Scrooge so it's not detected with the latest Rock "sanity" checks |
| 17:56.21 | aestil | shadowed, thats an abusrd waste of time. wtf. |
| 17:56.35 | Funkeh` | Mecdemort: Like I told you before, research before claiming an efficiency upgrade as false |
| 17:56.39 | Hjalte | Having an addon to block donation links is pretty bad imho.. |
| 17:56.55 | aestil | don't donate? |
| 17:56.59 | aestil | problem solved? |
| 17:57.07 | Mecdemort | well before you just broke the whole module, hope you didnt do that this time |
| 17:57.10 | kebinusan | I agree, they arent intrusive in the slightest |
| 17:57.20 | Funkeh` | Mecdemort: worked fine for me |
| 17:57.36 | NightHawkAtWork | Jesus people, if he wants it, and people use it, who cares? no one's bending your arm to install it. |
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| 17:57.55 | Shadowed | NightHawkAtWork that and, even if it's a useless mod...the fact that he needed to add code to specifically break it is a joke |
| 17:58.07 | Mecdemort | probably because you never left hyjal when you tested |
| 17:58.15 | NightHawkAtWork | Shadowed: well, that's another matter entirely. :P |
| 17:58.19 | Shadowed | lol |
| 17:58.36 | aestil | Shadowed: its also sorta his mod, so maybe he prefers that other mods don't mess with things he put in his mod? |
| 17:58.43 | sag_ich_nicht | Shadowed: i'll check when the SVN propageted to files |
| 17:58.46 | Shadowed | aestil thats an absurdly stupid argument |
| 17:58.49 | aestil | Shadowed: how about this? don't use any rock mods, problem sovled? |
| 17:58.56 | Shadowed | I don't actually |
| 17:59.00 | Shadowed | next absurd argument? |
| 17:59.09 | sag_ich_nicht | aestil, how about this: lol FOSS |
| 17:59.26 | Shadowed | If you don't like it, don't use it. Simple as that |
| 17:59.34 | sag_ich_nicht | in uncommented his whole do loop |
| 17:59.37 | sag_ich_nicht | checking if that prevents it |
| 17:59.52 | Funkeh` | Mecdemort: Update up lua and do a check to see how much cpu/garbase concatenating a number wiht a string creates over doing a format |
| 17:59.55 | aestil | Shadowed: learn to use 'absurd' in situations that are actually 'absurd' not just randomly throwing it own to be demeaning/inflammatory. |
| 17:59.57 | Funkeh` | Open up* |
| 18:00.09 | Shadowed | All it does is check if you nilled out the donate field sag, the fix will solve it |
| 18:00.11 | NightHawkAtWork | aestil: your mom's absurd. |
| 18:00.14 | kebinusan | aestil, he wrote the mod to make drama, just let the fanboi alone imo |
| 18:00.18 | Mecdemort | i am |
| 18:00.31 | aestil | NightHawkAtWork: :) you have no idea how true that is. |
| 18:00.46 | NightHawkAtWork | aestil: actually, I got a fairly good idea last night. ;) |
| 18:00.47 | Arcaia | I'm gonna write an addon- that is a !!!!!!!Library addon - that causes Scrooge and other such 'hater' addons to automatically delete themselves from the internets. |
| 18:00.47 | Shadowed | Actually, ckk is the one thats been causing the drama. |
| 18:00.57 | aestil | NightHawkAtWork: not suprising : / |
| 18:01.07 | Arcaia | Shadowed: because he writes an addon package, of addons that he doesn't force you to use? |
| 18:01.09 | Arcaia | Amazing. |
| 18:01.10 | Shadowed | He's the one that complained about it originally, he's the one that added code to try and break it. If he hadn't done any of that, poof no drama |
| 18:01.19 | sag_ich_nicht | Shadowed: lol |
| 18:01.28 | sag_ich_nicht | Shadowed: he added more than that do loop |
| 18:01.30 | Arcaia | It's his addon. I believe he can code what he wants into it. |
| 18:01.31 | Shadowed | Infact, I bet more people know about Scrooge BECAUSE of what he's done |
| 18:01.38 | Shadowed | Arcaia and it's my addon, I can do what I want to it. |
| 18:01.41 | sag_ich_nicht | Shadowed: because i uncommented it, and it's still happening |
| 18:01.47 | Shadowed | sag_ich_nicht just use my fix |
| 18:01.48 | Mecdemort | well i dunno about memory but the fmt is 1/3 slower than .. |
| 18:01.52 | Arcaia | Shadowed: that doesn't stop your addon from being a petty joke. |
| 18:01.55 | Shadowed | If I want to make Scrooge disable something in Rock, I can. |
| 18:02.00 | sag_ich_nicht | Shadowed: the SVN didn't propagate. |
| 18:02.20 | sag_ich_nicht | i cba to download it manually |
| 18:02.21 | sag_ich_nicht | :X |
| 18:02.24 | sag_ich_nicht | unless you gimme a direct link |
| 18:02.24 | sag_ich_nicht | :X |
| 18:02.25 | Shadowed | just do a string.find for sanity |
| 18:02.36 | Shadowed | err, a search for "sanity" |
| 18:03.05 | aestil | Shadowed: that you even care about this amazes me. *boggle* |
| 18:03.31 | Shadowed | I don't care, I'm just having fun now disabling his disable |
| 18:03.40 | Shadowed | I like a challenge |
| 18:03.53 | aestil | anyone have any good recomendations for a computer case? i don't need a powersupply, don't want to spend alot of money. is there some sort of substantial difference between cases? |
| 18:03.56 | sag_ich_nicht | Shadowed: i can't find anything more in rocklib-1.0.lua |
| 18:04.03 | sag_ich_nicht | guess he might have put it in all rock modules :X |
| 18:04.08 | Shadowed | sag_ich_nicht, another addon is loading with Rock first probably. |
| 18:04.13 | Shadowed | And I doubt it, the sanity check is local not global. |
| 18:04.22 | dylanm | Shadowed's not petty, he's pretty |
| 18:04.23 | sag_ich_nicht | [20:04] <Shadowed> sag_ich_nicht, another addon is loading with Rock first probably. <--i use no-ext |
| 18:04.24 | sag_ich_nicht | so no. |
| 18:04.27 | Arcaia | aestil: Centurions by Thermaltake |
| 18:04.34 | Shadowed | no-ext? |
| 18:04.39 | sag_ich_nicht | unembedded. |
| 18:04.48 | Shadowed | oh |
| 18:04.48 | sag_ich_nicht | without externals |
| 18:04.55 | sag_ich_nicht | :P |
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| 18:05.39 | aestil | Arcaia: link? |
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| 18:06.22 | m4rku5 | Shadowed, what kind of sanity check is rock doing ? :S |
| 18:06.37 | Mecdemort | does self:Sync("SummitNext", "KazRogal") work? or should the be concatenated |
| 18:06.51 | sag_ich_nicht | m4rku5: if(donate!=donate) do while end end |
| 18:06.52 | sag_ich_nicht | basicially |
| 18:06.53 | sag_ich_nicht | :X |
| 18:07.03 | Shadowed | m4rku5, it saves the results of the RockConfig table, then everytime a rock is loaded it checks if you nilled out anything between updates, if it does, it does a while true loop |
| 18:07.14 | m4rku5 | lol |
| 18:07.25 | Shadowed | a rock/rock/ |
| 18:08.02 | Gnarfoz | Recount is full of errors for me, today :< |
| 18:08.02 | Shadowed | are you 100% sure no other addon is loading sag with rock |
| 18:08.14 | CIA-12 | 03warloxx * r50945 10GameLobby/ (Core.lua util.lua): |
| 18:08.14 | CIA-12 | GameLobby: |
| 18:08.14 | CIA-12 | - GameLobby disconnects now correctly from the ComChannel if the window is closed and no game is running. |
| 18:08.14 | CIA-12 | - hopflully fixed a bug that apparently no message was send, by register a 3 letters long prefix |
| 18:08.18 | *** join/#wowace Mudkipz (n=Yumm@66-215-38-143.dhcp.hspr.ca.charter.com) |
| 18:08.25 | sag_ich_nicht | Shadowed: still breaking with your fix. not 100%, but 99.99%, lemme do a grep on rock |
| 18:08.26 | sag_ich_nicht | :X |
| 18:08.52 | Shadowed | I'm not nilling anything in donate anymore with that fix, dunno how it would still error in that case |
| 18:09.21 | sag_ich_nicht | Shadowed: 100% certain |
| 18:09.24 | Fisker- | i need answers Gnarfoz ! |
| 18:09.44 | Shadowed | uhm |
| 18:09.45 | Shadowed | hrm |
| 18:09.53 | Gnarfoz | Fisker-: NO U |
| 18:09.57 | sag_ich_nicht | Shadowed: check ckknight's commit log for the last 24h hours |
| 18:10.00 | sag_ich_nicht | -h |
| 18:10.20 | Fisker- | yes me Gnarfoz |
| 18:10.27 | Fisker- | holy light fails |
| 18:10.55 | Shadowed | dunno how to do it by name, isn't it only by folder |
| 18:11.05 | sag_ich_nicht | i dunno, lol |
| 18:11.07 | m4rku5 | Shadowed, why are you changing stuff in the RockConfig table anyways ? |
| 18:11.12 | Shadowed | m4rku5 to disable the donate fields |
| 18:11.45 | sag_ich_nicht | Shadowed: maybe he checks for ANY change, not just nil? |
| 18:11.48 | m4rku5 | so thats users cant donate to ckknight lol ? :P |
| 18:11.54 | Shadowed | I'm not nilling anything sag |
| 18:12.22 | sag_ich_nicht | Shadowed: anymore, but maybe he didn't do a (x!=nil) but (x!=donate) |
| 18:12.22 | sag_ich_nicht | >.> |
| 18:12.34 | sag_ich_nicht | (something like that) |
| 18:12.43 | kebinusan | m4rku5: So that authors can specify an x-donate field in the toc and have a very nondescript option show up in the config menus |
| 18:12.54 | m4rku5 | ah ok |
| 18:12.59 | kebinusan | its been in Ace2 since like june |
| 18:13.17 | *** join/#wowace darchon (n=darchon@222.112.27.155) |
| 18:13.33 | sag_ich_nicht | lemme try something |
| 18:13.47 | *** join/#wowace darchon_ (n=darchon@222.112.27.155) |
| 18:13.52 | Fisker- | what sanity checks? |
| 18:14.16 | Shadowed | Fisker-, l2readhistory |
| 18:14.26 | Shadowed | ckk added code to do a while true loop if you remove the donate fields in rockconfig |
| 18:14.35 | durcyn | just change it from a while true to an AddMessage("dickhead") |
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| 18:16.01 | cryogen | good on him |
| 18:17.07 | sag_ich_nicht | Shadowed: i forced the sanitycheck to return true |
| 18:17.10 | sag_ich_nicht | still breaks :X |
| 18:17.18 | Shadowed | uhm |
| 18:17.24 | Shadowed | what if you disable scrooge |
| 18:17.29 | *** join/#wowace Godzmack (i=Godzmack@85-220-5-42.dsl.dynamic.simnet.is) |
| 18:17.41 | sag_ich_nicht | with the force true sanity check? |
| 18:17.45 | CIA-12 | 03warloxx * r50946 10GameLobby/BasicServer.lua: |
| 18:17.45 | CIA-12 | GameLobby: |
| 18:17.45 | CIA-12 | - BasicServer class now writes a default servername in the editbox |
| 18:17.45 | CIA-12 | - BasicServer class now uses the minSlots field instead of the static value "2" for the minvalue of the slider to set the maximal amount of slots |
| 18:17.47 | Shadowed | either way |
| 18:17.47 | Tinyboom | Shadowed: why bother? it's not like it's forcing you to click that button:p |
| 18:17.48 | Shadowed | oh wait he is checking all the fields |
| 18:17.56 | Shadowed | Tinyboom, I'm bored at this point and it's amusing |
| 18:17.59 | cryogen | Tinyboom: he doesnt even SEE the button, hes just an asshat |
| 18:18.04 | Tinyboom | lol |
| 18:18.12 | sag_ich_nicht | <3 Shadowed |
| 18:18.44 | aestil | looks like ima need to buy a full version of windows. |
| 18:18.46 | kebinusan | just remove x-donate fields from the tocs of the addons you use if it bothers you that much |
| 18:18.50 | neenee | Just tamed Rak'Shiri :) |
| 18:18.51 | aestil | is vista good yet? |
| 18:18.55 | durcyn | aestil: No. |
| 18:19.08 | aestil | so, xp Pro 64 then? |
| 18:19.08 | m4rku5 | aestil, get linux :P |
| 18:19.14 | aestil | not an option. |
| 18:19.29 | neenee | Vista is good. |
| 18:19.33 | m4rku5 | then have fun wasting money for crap software ;) |
| 18:19.33 | durcyn | aestil: and it never will be. any operating system that includes a tilt bit that degrades media playback arbitrarily, just to appease hollywood, can sit and fucking spin. |
| 18:19.34 | kebinusan | vista is the devil |
| 18:19.38 | neenee | More sensible defaults than XP. |
| 18:19.47 | aestil | durcyn: i do not care about DRM |
| 18:19.55 | aestil | factoring that in, is vista good? |
| 18:19.55 | kebinusan | bloatware |
| 18:20.04 | durcyn | not to mention UAC in its default configuration is beyond crap |
| 18:20.12 | cryogen | aestil: you are asking a VERY subjective question in a VERY typically anti ms channel |
| 18:20.12 | aestil | UAC? |
| 18:20.15 | Fisker- | Vista wins |
| 18:20.17 | Fisker- | vista is awesome |
| 18:20.26 | NivFreak | So I was tanking prince |
| 18:20.33 | cryogen | aestil: dont expect any sensible answers :) |
| 18:20.34 | NivFreak | and we had just gone into phase 2 |
| 18:20.39 | NivFreak | and vista rebooted to install updates |
| 18:20.42 | durcyn | aestil: mostly though it's the driver support that's suffered. make sure your video card is going to work if you decide to try it. |
| 18:20.50 | NivFreak | apparently it had prompted me, but it didn't get foreground over wow |
| 18:20.52 | aestil | hmm. |
| 18:20.56 | NivFreak | so it just rebooted since I didn't say no |
| 18:21.08 | sylvanaar | bloat is the same kind of word as security - you never can have the right amount |
| 18:21.10 | Fisker- | i haven't really used vista yet btw |
| 18:21.12 | NivFreak | they almost kept me alive long enough to log back in :) |
| 18:21.15 | aestil | ok, so, I'll probably just stick with xp pro 64. its only 90 bucks or so. |
| 18:21.26 | durcyn | aestil: but, if you want opinions, and i think mine's somewhat valid seeing as i've done pc support professionally for a decade, vista is two steps backwards compared to alternatives. |
| 18:21.51 | aestil | well, actualyl i'm torn between a windows OS and mac OS |
| 18:21.59 | aestil | i'm just not sure how well supported that is for drivers either. |
| 18:22.00 | sylvanaar | NivFreak vista doesnt do that |
| 18:22.05 | NivFreak | sylvanaar: yes it does |
| 18:22.06 | durcyn | the trick is to realize that all software sucks |
| 18:22.12 | Shadowed | I'm thinking sag_ich_nicht |
| 18:22.22 | Shadowed | ah he did add a sanity check to comm |
| 18:22.24 | Shadowed | http://fish.wowace.com/browse/~author=ckknight/WowAce/trunk/LibRockComm-1.0/LibRockComm-1.0.lua?r1=50721&r2=50835 |
| 18:22.28 | sylvanaar | NivFreak no, it doesnt. it just sits there and prompts you |
| 18:22.37 | NivFreak | it has a timer |
| 18:22.38 | aestil | OS X is more expensive then XP pro 64 though. |
| 18:22.47 | NivFreak | who buys OSX? |
| 18:22.49 | NivFreak | :P |
| 18:22.55 | NivFreak | you get a copy with your mac |
| 18:22.59 | NivFreak | you pirate the upgrades |
| 18:23.15 | aestil | well, when you build a computer, you'd need to buy the OS> |
| 18:23.17 | sylvanaar | you get 5 copies of leopard when you buy it |
| 18:23.32 | NivFreak | sylvanaar: http://blogs.msdn.com/tim_rains/archive/2004/11/15/257877.aspx |
| 18:23.54 | lprich | Or you just run linux. But, i've not run wow in linux. |
| 18:24.12 | NivFreak | XP and vista do it |
| 18:24.16 | NivFreak | vista does it by default |
| 18:24.18 | kebinusan | sound is a bit crappy since 2.2 but windows users have that problem too |
| 18:24.30 | sag_ich_nicht | Shadowed: btw. what are those Ace2/rock pings? |
| 18:24.32 | sag_ich_nicht | never heard of em |
| 18:24.34 | sylvanaar | NivFreak not for me |
| 18:24.35 | lprich | indeed. my sound is fubar if i run it in 5.1 mode |
| 18:24.48 | kebinusan | other than that, no real issues for me running wow under wine |
| 18:24.51 | ckknight | hey all |
| 18:24.55 | Shadowed | version pings sag |
| 18:25.00 | kebinusan | 'llo ckk |
| 18:25.27 | sag_ich_nicht | oic |
| 18:25.28 | ckknight | sag_ich_nicht: With RockComm, you can ping people's addon versions or talent specs. This is easily disableable in the preferences panel. |
| 18:25.42 | Shadowed | (Which he only added after I disabled it) |
| 18:25.52 | ckknight | I didn't add it because of you. |
| 18:25.59 | Shadowed | uh huh |
| 18:26.04 | Shadowed | you didn't add the sanity checks either right |
| 18:26.06 | kebinusan | heh a bit arrogant the talent feature was only added a day ago |
| 18:26.10 | ckknight | of course I did |
| 18:26.16 | sag_ich_nicht | ckknight: sure. but if i disabled them there, i can't send my own. |
| 18:26.16 | Shadowed | good at least you don't deny it |
| 18:26.16 | sag_ich_nicht | :X |
| 18:26.21 | ckknight | you're a total douchebag for removing my donation buttons |
| 18:26.27 | Shadowed | I love you too ckk |
| 18:26.32 | lprich | i have to leave my speaker config on 4 channel or it misses out on all kinds of sounds. |
| 18:26.38 | ckknight | sag_ich_nicht: yes, because then you would be a mooch |
| 18:26.38 | Stanzilla2 | Shadowed: you're like the biggest bastard I've ever seen. :/ |
| 18:26.43 | Shadowed | Stanzilla thanks |
| 18:26.51 | Shadowed | You know, for someone whos accusing me of drama, you're causing far more and more people know about scrooge now because of what you did. |
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| 18:27.09 | aestil | can you put people on ignore in irc? |
| 18:27.14 | kebinusan | yeah |
| 18:27.15 | sag_ich_nicht | yes. |
| 18:27.15 | cryogen | usually |
| 18:27.15 | ckknight | yea, aestil |
| 18:27.46 | lprich | aestil: what irc client are you using? |
| 18:27.48 | sag_ich_nicht | [20:26] <@ckknight> sag_ich_nicht: yes, because then you would be a mooch <--i'm a dick. that's enough :P |
| 18:27.51 | lprich | each one does it a little differently |
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| 18:27.56 | NightHawkAtWork | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:27.59 | ckknight | lemme ask you this, Shadowed, why create Scrooge at all? |
| 18:28.06 | NightHawkAtWork | it'll work in any not-sucktacular client |
| 18:28.11 | lprich | NightHawkAtWork: That it is, man, that it is. |
| 18:28.15 | aestil | yeppers, chatzilla. |
| 18:28.21 | NightHawkAtWork | and if your client does't support /ignore, you need a new client |
| 18:28.37 | lprich | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:28.48 | sag_ich_nicht | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:28.53 | lprich | screen + irssi ftw! |
| 18:29.05 | lprich | I ignore the news bots. |
| 18:29.11 | *** join/#wowace cladhaire (n=cladhair@c84.worc.ox.ac.uk) |
| 18:29.16 | *** mode/#wowace [+v cladhaire] by ChanServ |
| 18:29.37 | aestil | lprich: you ignore CIA? |
| 18:29.48 | sylvanaar | what is scrooge/ |
| 18:30.11 | kebinusan | it nukes x-donates from ace2 and rock |
| 18:30.24 | lprich | aestil: I don't know what CIA is, but I ignore the news bots in all but a couple channels. |
| 18:30.28 | sylvanaar | why? |
| 18:30.55 | kebinusan | sylvanaar: because shadowed doesnt like ckknight |
| 18:31.01 | cryogen | becuase its author is a prick, no other reason :) |
| 18:31.09 | sag_ich_nicht | ckknight: is there a way to reset just the lines in cowtip to their defaults? :X |
| 18:31.45 | ckknight | sylvanaar: *shrug* I designed the donation buttons to be non-intrusive. It's not like it pops up a thing: "I see you haven't donated to Parrot, would you like to donate now?" all across your screen. It's just a button in the config, doesn't flash, make noises, it's just there, you'll see it, but it won't make itself overly known. |
| 18:31.48 | ckknight | I did that intentionally. |
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| 18:32.09 | Mecdemort | vhaarr: ok i think i've got it working, how do i make a diff |
| 18:32.26 | sag_ich_nicht | the only reason i installed scrooge is because i <3 scrooge(the character), not because the buttons annoy me :X |
| 18:32.32 | ckknight | and if you remove said donation buttons, I really consider it a personal and political move rather than to serve any other means |
| 18:32.32 | sylvanaar | ckknight you should get donations if you want. auctioneer gets them |
| 18:32.54 | [Ammo] | mecdemort, feel free to commit, it's not in the .toc yet anyway |
| 18:33.06 | Mecdemort | ok |
| 18:33.10 | cladhaire | does auctioneer advertise in game? |
| 18:33.13 | sag_ich_nicht | ckknight Shadowed |
| 18:33.16 | sag_ich_nicht | please declare war |
| 18:33.19 | sag_ich_nicht | ~lawsofwar |
| 18:33.22 | Shadowed | I DECARE WAR |
| 18:33.25 | sag_ich_nicht | purl, fail |
| 18:33.25 | purl | ACTION gives sag_ich_nicht the worst grade imaginable, an A minus... minus! |
| 18:33.34 | sag_ich_nicht | purl, you fail |
| 18:33.35 | purl | ACTION slaps you for calling her a failure. |
| 18:33.49 | sylvanaar | cladhaire irrelevant |
| 18:33.51 | Mecdemort | unfortunately I lost my rage and kazrogal times a while ago, but there's a place for them to be added when someone has the accurate numbers |
| 18:34.34 | cladhaire | sylvanaar: *shrug* People use AdBlocker |
| 18:34.41 | cladhaire | not much different from that |
| 18:34.43 | ckknight | and those people are dicks. |
| 18:35.04 | cryogen | adblock doesnt insert itself in the adverts |
| 18:35.04 | ckknight | also, adblocker hardly ever blocks paypal donation buttons |
| 18:35.09 | lprich | woah woah woah.. saying someone is a dick for using adblocker goes a little far. |
| 18:35.16 | sag_ich_nicht | i could add a regex to block those buttons |
| 18:35.18 | sag_ich_nicht | maybe i should |
| 18:35.18 | sag_ich_nicht | :X |
| 18:35.28 | ckknight | lprich: who pays for bandwidth costs? |
| 18:35.36 | kebinusan | Id say most web ads are a bit more intrusive |
| 18:35.39 | sag_ich_nicht | actually |
| 18:35.41 | durcyn | there's a difference between donations and advertising |
| 18:35.45 | ckknight | though that's a separate issue |
| 18:35.48 | ckknight | donations ≠advertising |
| 18:35.56 | sag_ich_nicht | i am causing in total LESS traffic AND cost for the internet itself BECAUSE i block ads |
| 18:35.58 | sylvanaar | all i can say is wow |
| 18:36.01 | lprich | ckknight: I'm not saying it doesn't cause problems, i'm just saying it doesn't inherently make someone a dick. |
| 18:36.02 | sag_ich_nicht | AND increase network stability |
| 18:36.07 | sag_ich_nicht | so: your argument is invalid |
| 18:36.07 | Shadowed | You know |
| 18:36.07 | sag_ich_nicht | :X |
| 18:36.10 | Shadowed | the best part of all of this is |
| 18:36.19 | kebinusan | its not like the x-donate thing is only used by ckknight, there are a few mods that I use that have X-Donates in their tocs |
| 18:36.26 | Shadowed | If you're using Scrooge, you're specifically using it because you don't want to see donation buttons, nor do you plan on donate |
| 18:36.38 | ckknight | lprich: how do you expect essentially free websites to survive if everyone blocks their ads? |
| 18:36.53 | sylvanaar | i went through this with WAU |
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| 18:37.14 | cladhaire | To play the card back, thats irrelevant |
| 18:37.17 | cladhaire | if someone downloads Scrooge |
| 18:37.20 | cladhaire | they won't donate |
| 18:37.21 | lprich | ckknight: I don't... It's a nasty cycle. |
| 18:37.23 | cladhaire | Why fight that? |
| 18:37.43 | ckknight | lprich: hence the previous "dick" comment |
| 18:37.58 | sag_ich_nicht | actually, i might donate at some point, but i still use scrooge because i know how to donate if want to already. |
| 18:37.58 | sag_ich_nicht | :X |
| 18:38.01 | lprich | ckknight: It doesn't make someone a dick to block ads. |
| 18:38.06 | cryogen | whether they dontate or not is unimportant |
| 18:38.09 | ckknight | cladhaire: because I see it as a political move more than anything |
| 18:38.10 | sag_ich_nicht | (and, as i said before, because i'm a fan of uncle scrooge :X) |
| 18:38.16 | sylvanaar | you shouldnt be defending it cladhaire, its different than an ad blocker |
| 18:38.17 | ckknight | lprich: ...how doesn't it? |
| 18:38.22 | Pkekyo | I've found that by sticking two fingers in your ears and humming loudly, you can avoid alot of unwanted problems! |
| 18:38.23 | cryogen | its implied in using the addon for free that you should put up with it |
| 18:38.26 | lprich | ckknight: It more or less just ponts out the fact that ad supported websites are inherently flawed as a business model. |
| 18:38.27 | cryogen | not that its a lot to put up with |
| 18:38.46 | kebinusan | I dont really see the donation thing as advertising though, its just an option on the menu, most apps, have help/about/donate/register crap in their menus |
| 18:38.58 | ckknight | lprich: how do you think free websites (like wowace) should survive without ads? |
| 18:39.00 | cladhaire | I'm more annoyed by the incessant begging for donations than the donation button, tbh |
| 18:39.15 | cladhaire | and I don't like people who use adblockers |
| 18:39.23 | cladhaire | but someone who downloads scrooge isn't going to donate in the first place |
| 18:39.27 | ckknight | cladhaire: as I said, it's not intrusive, on purpose |
| 18:39.27 | cladhaire | so it seems like a silly game *shrug* |
| 18:39.27 | ltwiizard | ckknight, subscription model! :) |
| 18:39.28 | lprich | ckknight: It's not all ads that they need to survive without, just obnoxious/intrusive ones.... |
| 18:39.40 | ckknight | ltwiizard: look how well that worked for RDX |
| 18:39.41 | sylvanaar | its the modification of software are runtime by foreign code |
| 18:39.44 | cladhaire | (more importantly) |
| 18:39.45 | cryogen | why should they forcefully remove it? |
| 18:39.46 | lprich | Let me pull up wowace right now and see if i'm blocking ads.. |
| 18:39.49 | cryogen | what do they gain from it? |
| 18:39.52 | cryogen | .. nothing |
| 18:39.54 | aestil | Arcaia: your thermaltake centaurions suggestion failed. no such thing as far as i can tell. |
| 18:39.55 | ckknight | lprich: I don't disagree with you there |
| 18:39.58 | cryogen | the addon wasnt created to serve a function |
| 18:39.59 | ltwiizard | wha's rdx? :D |
| 18:40.08 | cryogen | it was created as a personal attack and just to be annoying |
| 18:40.12 | Shadowed | well lets be realistic |
| 18:40.13 | cryogen | end of |
| 18:40.18 | kebinusan | cryogen: that is its function |
| 18:40.21 | Shadowed | I can always disable the donations, unless you want to add more and more code to stop it |
| 18:40.26 | cladhaire | as i see it, right now an addon can't be written that disables the 1984 features from Rock.. why is that necessary? |
| 18:40.27 | cryogen | kebinusan: in-game function |
| 18:40.28 | NightHawkAtWork | cladhaire: this is purely curiosity on my part, but when you browse the web, with whatever browser of choice you use, do you have whatever pop-up blocking disabled, and use no ad blocking software at all, ever? |
| 18:40.30 | Shadowed | and the more code you add, the more bloated you're making Rock just do this stupid thing |
| 18:40.39 | Shadowed | eg, you'll lose in the end and waste more time then if you just allow this |
| 18:40.41 | sylvanaar | oh lol whatever |
| 18:40.50 | lprich | ckknight: :) I don't mind ads that are just like, text, maybe a small graphic.. flash and/or video ads though... GRRR! |
| 18:40.58 | cladhaire | NightHawkAtWork: I do not, and have not, used ad blocking software, with the exception of pop-up javascript blockers, which the world agrees are insanely intrusive. |
| 18:41.03 | cladhaire | I view all other ads |
| 18:41.05 | ckknight | lprich: those things suck donkey balls |
| 18:41.08 | Shadowed | I only run popup blockers, but I view all ads too as clad said |
| 18:41.09 | ckknight | I don't like things moving |
| 18:41.14 | ckknight | or making noise |
| 18:41.19 | NightHawkAtWork | cladhaire: alright,was just curious. :) |
| 18:41.27 | cryogen | people still run popup blockers? use a sensible browser :p |
| 18:41.28 | lprich | Exactly. Ads should be like billboards, not tv commercials |
| 18:41.28 | cladhaire | ckknight: my last question was directed at you, or am i reading the commit incorrectly? |
| 18:41.32 | lprich | at least on the internet anyway |
| 18:42.07 | ckknight | cladhaire: I made a proper option in LibRockComm-1.0 (accessed through Addon Preferences) that can disable it properly. |
| 18:42.11 | cladhaire | yeah |
| 18:42.13 | cladhaire | that's cool |
| 18:42.16 | ckknight | cladhaire: and without spamming people, which Scrooge does |
| 18:42.16 | Shadowed | Which is why those were removed |
| 18:42.18 | lprich | I think my NoScript addon is doing more damage than AdBlock |
| 18:42.28 | ckknight | which I have serious issues with. |
| 18:42.31 | neenee | ckknight, what is the default behaviour, on or off? |
| 18:42.33 | cladhaire | but why make it so another addon can't disable teh rock comm 1984 features on its own? |
| 18:42.34 | ckknight | on |
| 18:42.39 | neenee | ah. |
| 18:42.52 | ckknight | neenee: it's a network effect, so it works a lot better to opt-out rather than opt-in |
| 18:42.58 | *** join/#wowace Athou (i=Cricket_@83.101.11.186) |
| 18:43.08 | neenee | ok |
| 18:43.22 | lprich | ckknight: can you link me to a wowace page that should have ads please? |
| 18:43.32 | cryogen | ckknight: i would suppot that, if i was at least aware of the fact it was there in the first place |
| 18:43.35 | cladhaire | I'm glad we're now playing a cat and mouse game |
| 18:43.35 | ckknight | lprich: what do you mean? |
| 18:43.39 | aestil | cladhaire: you're talking about the talentspec stuff? |
| 18:43.40 | Shadowed | so am i |
| 18:43.42 | Shadowed | I'm enjoying this |
| 18:43.42 | cryogen | .. say a small on-load notice that only displays once |
| 18:43.44 | cladhaire | aestil: Yes |
| 18:43.48 | cladhaire | Shadowed: I am NOT referring to you |
| 18:43.48 | Shadowed | it's fun seeing how to disable it |
| 18:43.52 | cladhaire | I don't give two shits about Scrooge |
| 18:44.00 | cladhaire | I'm annoyed (quite) at the comm stuff |
| 18:44.04 | lprich | ckknight: You indicated wowace has ads... I'm not seeing any, and i've disabled all my blockers. |
| 18:44.07 | Shadowed | too much damn text to figure it all out wtf |
| 18:44.09 | cladhaire | its just poor form |
| 18:44.14 | lprich | ckknight: or maybe I misunderstood you. |
| 18:44.16 | Ellipsis | lprich: try the files page, or the defaullt forum layout? |
| 18:44.17 | Shadowed | the forums and files.wowace has ads |
| 18:44.20 | aestil | cladhaire: seems similar to omens 'version' query check? and whats the difference between that and alt tab + armory. |
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| 18:44.38 | cladhaire | aestil: This conversation was had yesterday.. Its not up to you to decide that |
| 18:44.39 | aestil | cladhaire: since blizzard is not concerned about keeping your spec secret, why should i have to jump through hoops? |
| 18:44.42 | neenee | Hm. My urlfilter.ini blocks them |
| 18:44.44 | cladhaire | and I'm not questioning the 1984 features |
| 18:44.52 | cladhaire | I'm questioning the code that was added, that wont' allow another addon to disable those features |
| 18:44.59 | aestil | cladhaire: ah. |
| 18:45.11 | cladhaire | instead someone is FORCED to go through rock's config.. which is oh so lovely.. to disable the feature that is automatically turned on |
| 18:45.15 | aestil | cladhaire: i can't comment on that, as I develop nothing, and have no reasonable perspective on that. |
| 18:45.21 | ckknight | cladhaire: because I had planned to do it properly, and I was mainly angry that Scrooge was spamming people. |
| 18:45.26 | cladhaire | fair enough |
| 18:45.28 | aestil | cladhaire: i personally thing that rock config is 'oh so lovely' |
| 18:45.34 | Shadowed | Scrooge isn't spamming anything actually |
| 18:45.47 | aestil | s thing/think |
| 18:45.52 | ckknight | it was, something about "BIZ'NISS" |
| 18:45.57 | Shadowed | thats an option actually |
| 18:45.57 | cladhaire | That's fine.. just one more reason I won't put anything rock related near anyone i know. |
| 18:46.08 | Shadowed | which is disabled by default |
| 18:46.09 | cladhaire | someone has to log in to disable a feature |
| 18:46.18 | ckknight | cladhaire: you have to log in to play. |
| 18:46.22 | aestil | cladhaire: i'm confused. |
| 18:46.22 | cladhaire | clearly |
| 18:46.30 | cladhaire | but i can download Rock + RockCommStop and know that I'm fine. |
| 18:46.33 | cladhaire | on every character |
| 18:46.38 | cladhaire | this way, I have to muck about each and every timel. |
| 18:46.44 | ckknight | actually, the option is for every character. |
| 18:46.45 | aestil | cladhaire: if you don't have a probelm with the talent spoofing, what do you have a problem with? |
| 18:46.50 | cladhaire | just seems like an assinine child's game |
| 18:46.55 | cladhaire | aestil: The principle behind the code. |
| 18:46.57 | cladhaire | plain and simple |
| 18:47.06 | aestil | cladhaire: you have a problem with ckk not letting you write an extra mod that 'breaks' his mod? |
| 18:47.16 | lprich | ckknight: How about having a non-ad version of the site for paid subscribers? |
| 18:47.19 | cladhaire | it wouldn't break it |
| 18:47.20 | ckknight | cladhaire: Shadowed was the one who started it by disabling my donation buttons. if Scrooge goes off the SVN, I will remove all the needless sanity checks |
| 18:47.22 | aestil | cladhaire: and instead making it an option, from inside his mod to disable it? |
| 18:47.35 | cladhaire | aestil: It has nothing to do with breaking his mods |
| 18:47.47 | cladhaire | its has to do with removing features that more users than you think don't want to exist |
| 18:47.55 | aestil | cladhaire: i'm just trying to be clear, its importnat to be clear even in disagreement, you don't like the talentspec stuff, or you don't like the sanity check? |
| 18:48.01 | Shadowed | I'll remove it when you add an option to disable ALL donation buttons. |
| 18:48.07 | cladhaire | there _are_ people who log off with different gear and talent specs specifically to hide their stuff |
| 18:48.10 | cladhaire | i think that's their right |
| 18:48.22 | sylvanaar | cladhaire i didnt want armory, but since its there you arent accomplishing anything |
| 18:48.24 | ckknight | Shadowed: not happening. |
| 18:48.32 | cladhaire | sylvanaar: read my statement |
| 18:48.41 | cladhaire | people don't have their stuff on armory |
| 18:48.47 | cladhaire | it costs them time and money, but that's their right |
| 18:48.52 | aestil | cladhaire: you can right click -> inspect anyone. |
| 18:48.56 | ckknight | cladhaire: do they remove their talents before logging off? |
| 18:48.57 | sylvanaar | cladhaire what |
| 18:49.00 | kebinusan | I believe there was a thread about this last year.. about the guild positions being broadcast, same thing really.. if you dont like it dont use it no? |
| 18:49.01 | cladhaire | ckknight: yes, they do. |
| 18:49.05 | ckknight | wtf? |
| 18:49.10 | ckknight | those people are wacky |
| 18:49.11 | MoonWolf | Damnit, i lost the game. |
| 18:49.15 | cladhaire | actually |
| 18:49.17 | cladhaire | this conversation all happened last night |
| 18:49.19 | cladhaire | and i was hoping to avoid it. |
| 18:49.21 | cladhaire | sure |
| 18:49.23 | ckknight | cladhaire: well, at least they can easily disable the talent pinging |
| 18:49.24 | cladhaire | that's your opinion |
| 18:49.26 | aestil | so really the 'log out in different' gear is a rediculous arguement, because right NOW i can look at their gear. your only arguement can be that i can't KNOW their talent spec without the armory. |
| 18:49.38 | Shadowed | note, you have to actually alt tab out to check armory |
| 18:49.40 | Shadowed | this you don't |
| 18:49.41 | sylvanaar | it should be a game api |
| 18:49.43 | aestil | cladhaire: which you seem to be suggesting that people spend 100g every time they play to hide the talent spec fromn the armory? |
| 18:49.44 | sylvanaar | no you dont |
| 18:49.47 | cladhaire | yes. |
| 18:49.48 | Shadowed | yes you do |
| 18:49.55 | cladhaire | aestil: i'm NOT having this conevrsation |
| 18:49.56 | Shadowed | unless you're storing a database, and thats not going to always be accurate |
| 18:49.57 | sylvanaar | i can just use a clipboards sniffer |
| 18:49.58 | cladhaire | it happened last night |
| 18:50.02 | cladhaire | someone in this very channel said they did just that |
| 18:50.04 | Punkie` | kebinusan: you do not download the latest Fubar and get told that your character informations are being broadcasted though |
| 18:50.05 | cladhaire | and that is their right |
| 18:50.08 | Xinhuan | some of the top end arena teams do it (respec everyday to hide talent) |
| 18:50.09 | cladhaire | BEYOND THAT |
| 18:50.14 | cladhaire | the code in rock is silly |
| 18:50.17 | Punkie` | imho, this is not a thing to lie in a framework |
| 18:50.26 | Shadowed | ^ |
| 18:50.35 | cladhaire | Not much else to discuss, I've got work to do |
| 18:50.39 | cladhaire | just wanted to know why it had been added |
| 18:50.42 | cladhaire | ckknight: thanks |
| 18:50.46 | sylvanaar | its very useful, and that's why addons are written |
| 18:50.47 | kebinusan | You mean to tell me nothing got added to something before an option to disable it was added |
| 18:50.54 | Xinhuan | sylvanaar: there is already such an addon ;p |
| 18:50.59 | aestil | cladhaire: so what, its the talent specing you don't like, and since its easily disabled, your problem is that is the sanity checks i'm guessing? |
| 18:51.03 | cryogen | you seem to be implying people are forced to use rock |
| 18:51.13 | kebinusan | I dont see what the big deal is, its there, the options are there .. they werent there for like two days... |
| 18:51.17 | cladhaire | aestil: i explained 10 minutes ago what my problem was. |
| 18:51.20 | Xinhuan | sniffs the clipboard, looks up the armory, and reports back via the clipboard |
| 18:51.24 | kebinusan | which is sort of what you get for being bleeding edge |
| 18:51.25 | Xinhuan | its an application+addon |
| 18:51.40 | cryogen | if you dont want an addon sending people your talent spec |
| 18:51.41 | cryogen | dont use it |
| 18:51.54 | Punkie` | that is the problem cryogen |
| 18:51.56 | cryogen | if you are paranoid, inspect every addon you use to be sure you know what it does |
| 18:51.58 | Punkie` | it is not the addon that is doing it |
| 18:52.02 | Punkie` | it is the framework |
| 18:52.05 | cryogen | not the point |
| 18:52.05 | cryogen | its lua |
| 18:52.06 | Punkie` | read what I said above |
| 18:52.07 | cryogen | you have the source |
| 18:52.12 | cladhaire | use the source luke! |
| 18:52.16 | kebinusan | Its not a framework you are forced to use though |
| 18:52.16 | Punkie` | heh |
| 18:52.27 | Punkie` | kebinusan: besides the point |
| 18:52.28 | cryogen | its not provided by blizzard |
| 18:52.33 | cryogen | therefore you are not forced to use it |
| 18:52.35 | Punkie` | framework is supposed to be transparent |
| 18:52.37 | cryogen | Punkie`: VERY much the point |
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| 18:53.02 | Punkie` | You are not supposed to download FuBar thinking, zomg rock! |
| 18:53.25 | Punkie` | do you read through the source of every addon you download? |
| 18:53.29 | kebinusan | Punkie, and CTRA let the raid leader check my bags zomg how bad |
| 18:53.37 | Punkie` | kebinusan: it's a documented feature |
| 18:53.38 | Punkie` | nice one |
| 18:53.48 | Punkie` | you download said addon to allow that |
| 18:54.43 | cryogen | Punkie`: if you are paranoid, yes you do |
| 18:54.53 | Punkie` | heh, ok |
| 18:54.54 | cryogen | Punkie`: people who respec every day are pretty paranoid |
| 18:55.11 | Punkie` | people who respec every day probably do not understand Lua |
| 18:55.19 | Punkie` | or any programming |
| 18:55.36 | Punkie` | Do you expect them to read through 3,000 lines of RockComm ? |
| 18:55.45 | cryogen | then they shouldnt use addons |
| 18:55.46 | Punkie` | as well as FuBar |
| 18:55.49 | cryogen | (and probably dont) |
| 18:56.09 | cladhaire | when this same conversation happened. |
| 18:56.10 | kebinusan | As Im so commonly told in here though, people program for themselves not others... if you dont like someones addon you dont have to use it.. there are plenty of options out there and if there arent then you can write your own |
| 18:56.13 | cladhaire | so we can go back to.. something else.. |
| 18:56.19 | Punkie` | I was there too cladhaire :P |
| 18:56.46 | Shadowed | "you can write your own" is a stupid argument |
| 18:56.50 | lprich | I was 'here' but not reading... I could read my log though. |
| 18:57.04 | aestil | i'd like blizzard to just put that in the API so this arguement could go away. such a rediculous argument. |
| 18:57.18 | Ellipsis | if only, aestil |
| 18:57.25 | Fisker- | oh man this lag is horrible |
| 18:57.35 | lprich | lagggggg |
| 18:57.42 | aestil | would you like to procure a caffeinated beverage Ellipsis? |
| 18:57.47 | Punkie` | Fisker-: do you have lag of 1 day? |
| 18:57.48 | sylvanaar | yeah, i did this yesterday too |
| 18:57.48 | Punkie` | :D |
| 18:57.50 | Ellipsis | yes please aestil |
| 18:58.01 | ltwiizard | aestil, and integration with /who or LFM would be awesome. |
| 18:58.09 | aestil | ltwiizard: yes it would. |
| 18:58.14 | Fisker- | i'm like lagging so much that spout is finished before it even appears on my screen |
| 18:58.41 | aestil | Fisker-: they can 24 man lurker, just log off because you are a liability :) |
| 18:59.20 | Mecdemort | wow this is crazy, for some reason i cant get it to handle wipes correctly |
| 18:59.43 | Fisker- | just saved 2 healers aestil |
| 19:00.00 | Punkie` | ~fanboism |
| 19:00.00 | purl | check Rock |
| 19:00.10 | Punkie` | classic |
| 19:00.16 | ckknight | ~literal fanboism |
| 19:00.16 | purl | "fanboism" is "<reply> check Rock" |
| 19:00.17 | Fisker- | haha |
| 19:00.22 | Fisker- | lurker is chaincasting spout |
| 19:00.23 | ckknight | ~purl forget fanboism |
| 19:00.23 | purl | i forgot fanboism, ckknight |
| 19:00.36 | ckknight | actually, I should've checked who set it |
| 19:00.38 | aestil | wow, that was stupid. ace2 = fanboism. |
| 19:00.39 | ckknight | *shrug* |
| 19:00.51 | ckknight | <3 teh fanbois |
| 19:00.52 | aestil | omg i has all ACE2 mods guysh |
| 19:00.59 | Ellipsis | ckknight, I'll be your fanboi if you want |
| 19:01.04 | ltwiizard | I did! :D |
| 19:01.05 | Ellipsis | I just have to save up money for the operation... |
| 19:01.15 | Ellipsis | down boy |
| 19:01.23 | Ellipsis | I'm still female for the moment |
| 19:01.23 | Elkano | ckknight, I've heard that Ace2 is far superior to anything. Mind porting Rock to Ace2? |
| 19:01.26 | aestil | except, like, you know, bongos, lightheaded, and some other good stuff. |
| 19:01.34 | aestil | Elkano: :D |
| 19:01.57 | aestil | Elkano: i'm actually still made at you for my 1 pixel problem with buff groups : / |
| 19:02.03 | aestil | mad not made |
| 19:02.33 | Punkie` | Elkano: btw it's done |
| 19:03.54 | kebinusan | ~fanboism |
| 19:04.03 | backbone87 | how can i spread out different classes of a lib into different files without messing up an addons toc? |
| 19:04.53 | Ackis | ck, did you get the message i sent earlier today about librock and crayon (was a link to a forum thread) |
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| 19:05.58 | ckknight | backbone87: classes? |
| 19:06.17 | ckknight | backbone87: well, the proper way is to make a lib.xml file which loads all the lua files |
| 19:06.25 | ckknight | and have the addon include that instead |
| 19:06.43 | backbone87 | sounds good to me |
| 19:06.47 | backbone87 | thx a lot |
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| 19:07.43 | backbone87 | i hate 1000 liners :/ |
| 19:08.03 | Sirow | i hate chinafarmers |
| 19:08.29 | backbone87 | who does not? |
| 19:08.46 | Sirow | Chinafarmer bosses? ^^ |
| 19:08.58 | backbone87 | hm |
| 19:10.56 | Antiarc | http://www.nortonfighter.com/ |
| 19:11.22 | sag_ich_nicht | ! |
| 19:11.26 | sag_ich_nicht | I SAW YOU ANTIARC |
| 19:11.29 | sag_ich_nicht | YOU CAN NOT MAKE ME UNSEE YOU |
| 19:12.24 | Ellipsis | owned |
| 19:13.25 | backbone87 | ckknight: <Script file="xyz" /> is this sufficient? |
| 19:14.09 | Mecdemort | [Ammo]: how does mod.toggleoptions work? I don't think i see it ever check if someone unchecked the wave option |
| 19:14.14 | Industrial | ckknight: I fail to see why making an xml file load lua files rather then the toc is "proper". |
| 19:14.52 | Arrowmaster | you can change the files used in the lib without making every addon that uses the lib require a toc update? |
| 19:16.08 | [Ammo] | Mecdemort: oh I forgot to check it :) |
| 19:16.14 | [Ammo] | I forgot to fix that option |
| 19:16.15 | Industrial | that wouldnt be an issue if you'd use stable library versions |
| 19:16.19 | Industrial | Arrowmaster |
| 19:16.26 | backbone87 | Industrial: can you refer a toc in a toc? |
| 19:16.27 | Mecdemort | ok |
| 19:16.35 | [Ammo] | feel free to add |
| 19:16.40 | Mecdemort | i dont know how |
| 19:17.12 | [Ammo] | if self.db.profile.wave then ... timers ... end |
| 19:17.17 | sylvanaar | only xml has the proper flexibility, and supports relative references at arbitrary positions in the directory |
| 19:17.20 | Mecdemort | ah ok |
| 19:17.25 | Industrial | backbone87: no, but libraries are embedded usually. If they aren't then theres no issue of listing anything at all. |
| 19:17.30 | Mecdemort | did you want for it to not do the raidwarnings, or not do anything at all? |
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| 19:17.37 | durcyn | Industrial: it's not for library versions, it's for external libraries |
| 19:18.01 | sylvanaar | just cut and paste into one big file |
| 19:18.17 | backbone87 | -.- |
| 19:18.19 | [Ammo] | mecdemort I can fix it later shrug |
| 19:18.26 | Mecdemort | ok thats fine |
| 19:18.32 | Antiarc | backbone87: Multiple files in a library is a pain in the ass. |
| 19:18.38 | Antiarc | Put it in one file if it's feasable to do so. |
| 19:18.39 | Industrial | durcyn: again; using stable library versions and not lazy externals fixes everything |
| 19:18.42 | Mecdemort | im still trying to figure out why wiping doesnt work the same as with the standalone version |
| 19:19.11 | [Ammo] | ? |
| 19:19.59 | Mecdemort | when thrall dies, the wave number goes to 0, then to 1, then to 0 again, making it do a wave 1 warning. somehow i fixed it in the standalone but i can't figure out whats wrong with it now |
| 19:20.44 | sylvanaar | you probably wrote something to global data or local data instead of instance data |
| 19:21.32 | durcyn | Industrial: not talking about svn externals, rather standalone libs vs embedded. |
| 19:22.00 | Industrial | durcyn: then its the standalone library toc loading its own lua files |
| 19:22.07 | Mecdemort | hmm, ill do a side-by-side comparison |
| 19:22.17 | backbone87 | it's only because of the style |
| 19:22.29 | Industrial | durcyn: and if you have done it right, the addon using the library doesnt have thelibrary entries in the toc |
| 19:22.48 | durcyn | Industrial: correct. and the logic for using .xml files in the addon .toc is to avoid expensive FrameXML.log writes, which have proven to be expensive |
| 19:23.06 | durcyn | i said expensive twice there, for some reason |
| 19:23.14 | backbone87 | if i place a toc in my lib folder, is it executed automatically? |
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| 19:23.19 | Industrial | so don't disembed. |
| 19:23.36 | durcyn | backbone87: must have the same name as the addon directory |
| 19:23.55 | durcyn | Industrial: and suffer through a performance hit, because acelibrary isn't as smart as it hopes it is |
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| 19:24.07 | Industrial | or automate the removal of files from the toc. It can be done, but disembedding should be highly discouraged as its general "ZOMGLOADTIME" nonsense in the first place. |
| 19:24.09 | backbone87 | yeah but the lib should be embedded |
| 19:24.23 | sylvanaar | ^.^ <.< v.v >.> |
| 19:24.28 | Industrial | durcyn: false. disembedding only affects the initial load time |
| 19:24.43 | sylvanaar | no automated editing of the toc's - thats evil |
| 19:24.43 | Arrowmaster | no disembeding is "ZOMGITSACTUALLYPOSSIBLETOFUCKINGDEBUGSOMETHINGNOW" |
| 19:24.56 | ckknight_ | disembedding has other benefits |
| 19:25.05 | ckknight_ | such as being able to map memory and cpu usage |
| 19:25.06 | Arrowmaster | yeah automated editing of tocs when your using svn = bad |
| 19:25.10 | durcyn | Industrial: that's the only performance i was referring to, pardon my choice of terms. |
| 19:25.18 | Arrowmaster | simply deleting a file when using svn = good |
| 19:25.30 | durcyn | when it takes three minutes to zone, i start to have second thoughts about libraries |
| 19:25.36 | durcyn | er, load |
| 19:25.48 | Industrial | durcyn: so you prefer to have a heap of extra files and configuration for maybe 10 seconds of time you have your arms crossed versus the hours that you actually spend in the game/ |
| 19:26.05 | Arrowmaster | i start to have second thoughts about svn when it takes 3 minutes for wow to show the login screen |
| 19:26.23 | Industrial | mine takes <10 secs |
| 19:26.30 | Industrial | yet I use 50 addons +/- |
| 19:26.43 | Ellipsis | some of us have worse computers and more addons than you, Industrial |
| 19:26.54 | durcyn | Industrial: Moving toc references off to a .xml file is not a heap of extra anything, but thank you for being overly dramatic. |
| 19:27.03 | Arrowmaster | you asked for it |
| 19:27.13 | Industrial | so, use less addons or get a better pc? |
| 19:27.34 | Ellipsis | even the default UI takes more than 10secs to load for me |
| 19:27.37 | Industrial | software has a limit. there is no magic fix potion/program. |
| 19:27.46 | Ellipsis | right, but there are improvements |
| 19:27.51 | backbone87 | what you recommend now? |
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| 19:28.08 | Industrial | to just leave addons as they are, with embedded libraries. |
| 19:28.42 | backbone87 | ??? |
| 19:29.00 | Arrowmaster | AddOns Properties, Size: 126MB Contains: 12,215 Files, 7,024 Folders |
| 19:29.17 | backbone87 | oO |
| 19:29.28 | Industrial | yes well if you chug too much crap down your drainage it'l clog |
| 19:29.32 | Industrial | same thing? |
| 19:29.48 | Arrowmaster | i dont use that many addons |
| 19:29.56 | Ackis | NightHawk, try DCing during a raid boss fight, then you'll worry about loading times ;) |
| 19:29.57 | sylvanaar | i just want addons to do things that are useful |
| 19:30.02 | Industrial | 12,215 files says otherwise |
| 19:30.05 | Arrowmaster | but i check everything out from SVN which is the reason theres so much stuff in my addons folder |
| 19:30.17 | durcyn | the other problem, of course, is that when pulling addons from svn (whether or not you think someone should be), the svn externals are geometrically higher load on the svn server |
| 19:30.28 | NightHawkAtWork | Ackis: i've done that before, and while it's not pleasant, it's not an occurrence that happens often enough for me to build around it. |
| 19:30.35 | Arrowmaster | Industrial: ok |
| 19:30.41 | cladhaire | "geometrically" |
| 19:30.44 | cladhaire | seriously? :P |
| 19:30.55 | Industrial | durcyn: so I propose to include stable library versions instead of making it an external |
| 19:31.06 | Arrowmaster | Ace2 Properties, Size: 899KB, Contains: 121 Files, 129 Folders |
| 19:31.17 | Arrowmaster | ^^ svn |
| 19:31.19 | Ellipsis | or read externals from tags... |
| 19:31.26 | Industrial | durcyn: and to update when your addon benefits from it or wow broke it, nut because theres an update |
| 19:32.17 | Arrowmaster | if your including stable library versions then you need a reference to them |
| 19:32.17 | durcyn | Industrial: could work, but current libraries have far too much shit wedged into them to really even call them libraries |
| 19:32.19 | Industrial | I've been holding this same talk for EVER now btw :P |
| 19:32.39 | Industrial | Arrowmaster: no I mean literally the files of the library |
| 19:32.46 | durcyn | babble and pt would be a colossal mess |
| 19:32.48 | backbone87 | so at your opinion i should disembed the library to "it's own addon"? |
| 19:32.59 | Arrowmaster | otherwise shit gets fucked up from people uploading them to their svn server but leaving svn:keywords Rev enabled |
| 19:33.19 | Industrial | backbone87: no, you shouldn't do a thing to the addon files and leave it as you got it from the zip/svn |
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| 19:33.53 | backbone87 | to bad i didnt download it |
| 19:33.55 | Industrial | backbone87: because I bet you dont go messing in addons you get from eg curse/wowi either |
| 19:34.04 | sylvanaar | they come that way |
| 19:34.26 | sylvanaar | noone disembeds anything literally |
| 19:34.38 | sylvanaar | the script does it |
| 19:34.53 | NightHawkAtWork | ... i used to disembed things manually. >.> |
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| 19:35.02 | sylvanaar | lol |
| 19:35.06 | Industrial | sylvanaar: the script does it because people used to manually |
| 19:35.09 | NightHawkAtWork | then i realiezd i didn't actually -care- |
| 19:35.11 | Arrowmaster | me too, when its not available from svn |
| 19:35.29 | sylvanaar | well, it really just doesnt include the externals |
| 19:35.37 | Ellipsis | and I do go messing in addons I get from other sites |
| 19:35.46 | Ellipsis | almost as often as I go messing in addons I get from WowAce |
| 19:35.47 | Industrial | sylvanaar: and then people that don't know what svn is and only know wau go all "what is externals?!" do i need to do this? and assume its good for them |
| 19:35.50 | Industrial | I dont think it is |
| 19:35.52 | Ellipsis | in fact, more per addon >_> |
| 19:36.00 | sylvanaar | Industrial you dont have users |
| 19:36.02 | Industrial | sylvanaar: and at the same time complain about the number of addons in their addon dir |
| 19:36.07 | Mecdemort | wow that just doesnt make sense |
| 19:36.50 | Mecdemort | apparently it has something to do with throttling the reset sync, must investigate further |
| 19:36.51 | sylvanaar | this has evolved over time in response to the users |
| 19:37.40 | Industrial | sylvanaar: and I've been yelling "ur doin it rong" all along. Like i'm doing now. |
| 19:37.50 | Ellipsis | poor Industrial |
| 19:38.32 | MoonWolf | Industrial, clearly you are. |
| 19:38.38 | sylvanaar | i have personally spent a year supporting it almost now |
| 19:39.02 | Industrial | sylvanaar: I know |
| 19:39.29 | sylvanaar | helping to keep it working |
| 19:39.40 | Industrial | MoonWolf: tell me how and why. I haven't heard any argument against what I said except that its easier and that it was confirmed the load time increases _slightly_ |
| 19:39.51 | backbone87 | i only want to know, how i can spread out my written classes (which are located in an embedded lib) over more than one file, to improve readablity |
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| 19:39.57 | MoonWolf | i had no clue what you were talkinga bout |
| 19:40.00 | MoonWolf | i only saw |
| 19:40.05 | MoonWolf | * Industrial doesnt think he's talking nonsense |
| 19:40.05 | phoenixphylo | k.... i have a small problem... |
| 19:40.10 | MoonWolf | that need contradicting. |
| 19:40.28 | Industrial | backbone87: put them in different files, and lis those files in the toc |
| 19:40.29 | phoenixphylo | out of the blue, one of my addons is apparantly causing wow to freeze during the loading bar after you select your character |
| 19:40.53 | phoenixphylo | i've read somewhere about a "addon profiler" or something that tracks the addons as they load up |
| 19:41.14 | phoenixphylo | i was thinking that might be useful to try to identify the culprit |
| 19:41.16 | Industrial | phoenixphylo: disable 50% of you addons and retry, if it does it again disable 50% of that, repeat etc. Takes like a few mins. |
| 19:41.37 | phoenixphylo | didn't even think of doing it that way lol |
| 19:41.47 | Arrowmaster | binary search ftw |
| 19:41.51 | Industrial | \o/ |
| 19:42.10 | phoenixphylo | sometimes the simple ways are best |
| 19:42.13 | Sirow | phoenixphylo: You could try taking a look a logs\FrameXML.log, but Industrials approach will work definitly |
| 19:43.08 | backbone87 | and my condition for this, was not messing up the toc |
| 19:44.07 | Industrial | "messign up" ? thats the proper way backbone87. |
| 19:44.09 | Industrial | ckknight: touche. |
| 19:44.13 | phoenixphylo | this is going to be fun... i have alot of addons |
| 19:45.20 | backbone87 | its a proper way to load a lib with e.g. 10 lines instead of 1? |
| 19:45.55 | Industrial | if you put it in 10 lua files, yes |
| 19:46.06 | CIA-12 | 03ackis * r50947 10AckisRecipeList/ (. ARLLocals-enUS.lua AckisRecipeList.lua embeds.xml): |
| 19:46.06 | CIA-12 | AckisRecipeList: |
| 19:46.06 | CIA-12 | - Many recipes modified/updated |
| 19:46.07 | CIA-12 | - Engineering recipes complete with localization |
| 19:46.07 | CIA-12 | - Added Babble-Class |
| 19:47.12 | NeoTron | hrm would be really helpful with an addon for bigwigs that had a list of ppl without the mace and staff buffs on kael'thas |
| 19:47.28 | durcyn | NeoTron: or you could just turn it on in your raid frames |
| 19:47.39 | Funkeh` | pretty much |
| 19:47.54 | Mecdemort | what's the default throttling for bigwigs sync messages? |
| 19:48.01 | Funkeh` | 1 |
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| 19:48.18 | Mecdemort | weird, setting it to 2 actually makes it throttle less |
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| 19:49.20 | phoenixphylo | i hafta narrow it down... but i have a suspicious feeling it's a rock library |
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| 19:50.41 | Tuller | wait, why the hell is there any talent info in rock comm in the first place? :P |
| 19:50.54 | Mecdemort | gotbloat? |
| 19:51.13 | Tuller | that's like sticking a pancake on a robot because the batteries are warm |
| 19:51.17 | phoenixphylo | lol |
| 19:51.20 | cladhaire | lol |
| 19:51.41 | NightHawkAtWork | and today's, apparently |
| 19:51.44 | phoenixphylo | ..................... |
| 19:51.54 | phoenixphylo | it's lib rock itself that freezing during loading |
| 19:51.57 | NightHawkAtWork | Tuller: also, i beg to differ, robots make the pancakes DELICIOUS. |
| 19:52.30 | Mecdemort | phoenixphylo: do you have scrooge? |
| 19:53.03 | phoenixphylo | scrooge |
| 19:53.16 | phoenixphylo | oh... that one |
| 19:53.17 | phoenixphylo | i think so |
| 19:53.20 | phoenixphylo | should i ditch? |
| 19:53.23 | Mecdemort | indeed |
| 19:53.37 | phoenixphylo | i shall try |
| 19:53.55 | Xinhuan | http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=9064.0;topicseen |
| 19:53.57 | NightHawkAtWork | Yes, there's a very good chance that's causing it, due to a conflict of idiots. :P |
| 19:54.07 | Mecdemort | lol |
| 19:54.07 | Xinhuan | complaint #1 |
| 19:54.31 | phoenixphylo | installed it several days ago though |
| 19:54.41 | phoenixphylo | today is the first day i've had a problem |
| 19:54.56 | NightHawkAtWork | yes, several updates were made to rock and scrooge, and they conflicted in a bad way |
| 19:54.57 | Chompers | stupid morogrim murlocs, soon as the wave is down another wave has arrived |
| 19:54.57 | Mecdemort | i bet you updated |
| 19:55.07 | phoenixphylo | updated rock anyway |
| 19:55.07 | the-golem | ... |
| 19:55.08 | the-golem | so |
| 19:55.15 | the-golem | I play a hunter, and I have a boar |
| 19:55.21 | Xinhuan | i'll suggest using one or the other, but not both ;p |
| 19:55.22 | Industrial | Shadowed: http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=9064.0;topicseen |
| 19:55.24 | the-golem | his name is Chompers ... |
| 19:55.30 | NightHawkAtWork | Xinhuan: well, one's useless without the other. ;) |
| 19:55.39 | Xinhuan | :( |
| 19:55.54 | Xinhuan | not really |
| 19:56.00 | Xinhuan | scrooge works on ace2 too |
| 19:56.01 | Xinhuan | ;p |
| 19:56.01 | NightHawkAtWork | true, scrooge still works on ace2 stuff |
| 19:56.05 | Tuller | " Step 1: Man, I hate hunters. Step 2: I want to have people's talent information so that I can totally not group with hunters. Step 3: Hrm, where can I put this so that I can get a lot of people to download it without knowing. Step 4: RockComm!" |
| 19:56.23 | [Ammo] | you forgot 'profit!' |
| 19:56.31 | lprich | and ??? |
| 19:56.46 | the-golem | ... |
| 19:57.01 | the-golem | why do you need peoples talent info to not group with hunters? |
| 19:57.09 | the-golem | lol :P |
| 19:57.11 | Tuller | they might be survival! |
| 19:57.21 | the-golem | in which case, thats okay? |
| 19:57.22 | NightHawkAtWork | so you can not invite them and also mock them for their poor talent choices |
| 19:57.25 | Mecdemort | as a mage, i <3 BM hunters |
| 19:57.27 | NightHawkAtWork | it's about the trifecta of insults |
| 19:57.34 | the-golem | <-- BM Hunter |
| 19:57.37 | the-golem | BM rocks |
| 19:57.44 | hyperChipmunk | Tuller: /doom |
| 19:57.49 | hyperChipmunk | i will beat your face in |
| 19:57.52 | Tuller | meh I have a hunter :P |
| 19:57.53 | hyperChipmunk | slowly |
| 19:57.56 | lprich | As a mage, you should HATE bm hunter, at least in PVP... |
| 19:58.00 | Mecdemort | BM hunter + shaman = 10k pyro |
| 19:58.02 | Tuller | I get to be sarcastic :P |
| 19:58.25 | hyperChipmunk | i am the absolute extreme of the survival breed >8) |
| 19:58.29 | lprich | I used to tear clothies down with my BM hunter and kitty |
| 19:58.44 | the-golem | Tuller: what AddOns do you do? I forget |
| 19:58.45 | Tuller | I tend to stick with BM because I have a giant gorilla |
| 19:58.47 | hyperChipmunk | i get to beat your face for being sarcastic about survival specs >8D |
| 19:59.11 | Tuller | the-golem: bongos & bagnon & omnicc are the big ones |
| 19:59.33 | the-golem | OmniCC rules |
| 19:59.47 | Industrial | gorrilla? whats a gorilla good for? :| |
| 19:59.48 | aestil | the-golem: understatement. |
| 19:59.53 | the-golem | lol |
| 20:00.06 | Tuller | Industrial: being gigantic when I enrage |
| 20:00.15 | Industrial | good point |
| 20:00.15 | aestil | Tuller: is not moving buttons from action bars in combat a blizzard thing? |
| 20:00.16 | Tuller | also thunderclap in some situations |
| 20:00.29 | Tuller | aestil: yes, PickupAction() was made secure in 2.2 |
| 20:00.31 | Industrial | what about turtle then |
| 20:00.32 | Industrial | :D |
| 20:00.42 | aestil | kk, thanks. bbl |
| 20:00.43 | Tuller | turtles do not scratch their ass |
| 20:00.45 | lprich | turtles haz armors |
| 20:00.49 | the-golem | Tuller: since you're around, I'm having issues with my Bongos2 being profile-persistant .. it always gets set to default |
| 20:01.13 | the-golem | is there some trick im missing to get it to stick? |
| 20:01.16 | Tuller | the-golem: that's typically an issue related to the fubar plugin for bongos. Make sure you have the most recent version and set it to not sync with ace profiles |
| 20:01.33 | the-golem | .. |
| 20:01.42 | NightHawkAtWork | the-golem: sacrifice a femalel dwarf paladin at Tuller's alter. |
| 20:01.46 | the-golem | im not even sure i have that fubar plugin, lemme check |
| 20:02.24 | the-golem | LOVE the hotkey system though |
| 20:02.29 | cryogen | cool, i brokes it |
| 20:02.30 | cryogen | Message: ...nterface\AddOns\Cartographer_Waypoints\Waypoints.lua line 544: |
| 20:02.31 | cryogen | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:02.51 | NightHawkAtWork | b33 |
| 20:02.55 | NightHawkAtWork | er, woops |
| 20:03.02 | the-golem | Tuller: turns out i did have it ^^ |
| 20:03.17 | Tuller | hurray :) |
| 20:06.08 | the-golem | lets login to wow and see it that fixes it ;-) |
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| 20:09.46 | CIA-12 | 03mecdemort * r50948 10BigWigs/Hyjal/HyjalSummit.lua: |
| 20:09.46 | CIA-12 | BigWigs: |
| 20:09.46 | CIA-12 | - Tweaked into working order. |
| 20:09.46 | CIA-12 | - Added placeholders for rage winterchill and kazrogal timers, just need the accurate numbers. |
| 20:09.46 | CIA-12 | - Needs testing on Jaina's trash. |
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| 20:11.21 | CIA-12 | 03ckknight * r50949 10LibRockConfig-1.0/LibRockConfig-1.0.lua: LibRockConfig-1.0 - Gleam third-party settings from FuBarPlugin-2.0 as well as AceConsole-2.0. |
| 20:12.31 | durcyn | speaking of rockconfig, uh, why's the gui config frontend applet live in a library, anyway? |
| 20:12.57 | Gamefaq | ~seen Kemayo |
| 20:13.02 | purl | kemayo <n=kemayo@pool-71-103-215-86.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 15h 49m 24s ago, saying: 'Knaledge: Do you need to actually be in a raid to see that problem?'. |
| 20:13.29 | Bestial | Yea my cartographer has an error as well when i sign in |
| 20:13.30 | NightHawkAtWork | durcyn: because someone else clearly knows better than you what you want and need, and thus in their wisdom and benevolance has provided for you of their bounty. |
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| 20:13.58 | Bestial | but it works, i love cartographer! |
| 20:14.21 | durcyn | NightHawkAtWork: i don't need sarcasm, i'm just asking a damn question. |
| 20:14.45 | NightHawkAtWork | durcyn: Sorry, all I do is sarcasm. But if you distill out the sarcasm, i did in fact give you an answer. |
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| 20:15.46 | durcyn | NightHawkAtWork: be that as it may, asking questions and making suggestions, instead of spewing sarcasm and vitriol, might be more useful ways of influencing a change. maybe. |
| 20:16.00 | NightHawkAtWork | durcyn: I wager that ck simply assumed everyone who used a Rock-based addon would want/need a way to configure it, and simply put in there because why not? |
| 20:16.02 | Ellipsis | children, please... |
| 20:16.15 | NightHawkAtWork | durcyn: who said I wanted change? Really, I just want to be sarcastic. :P |
| 20:16.23 | durcyn | NightHawkAtWork: Mission accomplished! |
| 20:16.28 | NightHawkAtWork | :D |
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| 20:17.18 | lprich | IRC lets everyone try and condense facts from the vapor of nuance. It's wonderful. |
| 20:17.26 | ckknight | durcyn's* |
| 20:18.12 | CIA-12 | 03kaelten * r50950 10LibRockComm-1.0/LibRockComm-1.0.lua: LibRockComm-1.0: Fixed bug where your ui would lock up. |
| 20:18.57 | Ailleus | is that the fix to "wow not responding"? |
| 20:19.21 | lprich | sounds like a fix to me |
| 20:19.25 | ckknight | Kaelten: not sure I gave you permission to edit that, doesn't that violate your own SVN rules? |
| 20:20.00 | lprich | SVN FTW! |
| 20:20.02 | Xinhuan | /popcorn |
| 20:20.17 | Kaelten | not sure I gave you the right to host code on the svn that breaks the TOS and is a 100% malicious thing to do |
| 20:20.31 | ckknight | I think the rule is absurd and I'll point out hypocrisy any chance I see it |
| 20:20.34 | Arrowmaster | oh quit bickering like an old couple you two |
| 20:20.34 | Bestial | Is it possible to write a mod that could query WoW Armory in arenas and get their spec & resilience info and put that in a tooltip uner their name? |
| 20:20.39 | Bestial | or is that not allowed? |
| 20:20.49 | ckknight | Bestial: see Tattle |
| 20:21.05 | ckknight | Kaelten: I consider what Scrooge did as malicious |
| 20:21.09 | Ailleus | ckknight btw is that possible to parse out break aura effects in parrot? |
| 20:21.21 | ckknight | not sure what you mean |
| 20:21.26 | [Ammo] | what kaelten referred to was: 4C. "You may not disrupt or assist in the disruption of (i) any computer used to support the Service (each a "Server"); or (ii) any other player's Game |
| 20:21.28 | ckknight | Ailleus: did you check suppressions? |
| 20:21.30 | [Ammo] | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:21.46 | Ailleus | break aura "XXX fort is dispelled by YYYY" or smth |
| 20:21.47 | Kaelten | I haven't seen what he did, I did see what you did. |
| 20:22.02 | Ailleus | mm i mena to parse out as in to show in parrots window |
| 20:22.02 | ckknight | Kaelten: well, then you can look into Scrooge, then, won't you? |
| 20:22.11 | Ailleus | typos:| |
| 20:22.25 | NightHawkAtWork | Bestial: the best you can do is run a script outside the game to scrape the armory and generate a lua file that an addon can read when you launch the game. it wouldn't be realtime, but it's the best you get. As noted, Tattle does that, basically |
| 20:22.27 | Kaelten | I'll be happy to look at what he did |
| 20:22.43 | Bestial | well |
| 20:22.51 | Bestial | in one sense it makes me happy that it sounds difficult |
| 20:23.01 | NightHawkAtWork | Bestial: There's absolutely no way to interact with anything outside the lua sandbox from within wow. or vise versa. |
| 20:23.09 | Bestial | okay great |
| 20:23.14 | Xinhuan | Kaelten: http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=9064.0;topicseen |
| 20:23.31 | Xinhuan | getting longer |
| 20:23.34 | Bestial | do you guys know if there is a website that allows full functioning queries of the armory? |
| 20:23.50 | NightHawkAtWork | what do you mean by full functioning queries? |
| 20:24.14 | Ailleus | dopiecentral.com for some wierd addon, but data is about 1-2 months old |
| 20:24.14 | Bestial | I would like to know class/spec representation of characters in >2000 rankings for all arena groups |
| 20:24.34 | Bestial | so I can make a pareto chart |
| 20:24.36 | hyperChipmunk | Bestial:there's a script in tattle for that |
| 20:24.37 | NightHawkAtWork | Bestial: you might look at Tattle then, I think it has a data minier that more or less does that. |
| 20:24.48 | Ailleus | Bestial: [23:22] <NightHawkAtWork> Bestial: the best you can do is run a script outside the game to scrape the armory and generate a lua file that an addon can read when you launch the game. it wouldn't be realtime, but it's the best you get. As noted, Tattle does that, basically!!! |
| 20:24.52 | hyperChipmunk | but you can only ever go to 4096 |
| 20:25.13 | Kaelten | All scrouge does is disable funcitonality on a local level |
| 20:25.14 | hyperChipmunk | per group |
| 20:25.41 | Ailleus | wasnt that 5000? |
| 20:25.41 | NightHawkAtWork | hyperChipmunk: is that a limitation in the data the armory actually provides? |
| 20:25.43 | Bestial | Well it wouldn't need to be inside the game |
| 20:26.07 | hyperChipmunk | yeah, you could potentially query every possible character name and get them all, i suppose |
| 20:26.09 | Bestial | I'd just want to be able to generate jpegs for use with pareto charts to show, for example, what is the % of holy paladins in 5v5 arenas, with ranking over 2000 |
| 20:26.19 | ckknight | Kaelten: scrooge is a slap in the face to me. My main issue with it hooking comm was that it spammed people. My large issue is that it removes donation links, which I see as a political action |
| 20:26.32 | hyperChipmunk | but the armory does show the top 5000 teams in each battlegroup |
| 20:26.34 | NightHawkAtWork | Bestial: yeah, i'd look at tattle's data miner. |
| 20:26.36 | Kaelten | it removes donation links from 1 persons computer |
| 20:26.37 | Ailleus | bestial go to some dataminer sote for that |
| 20:26.37 | hyperChipmunk | so you can go from those |
| 20:26.54 | the-golem | Tuller: does ur castbar part of bongos do enemy also? |
| 20:26.56 | Bestial | Thanks guys, I am googling for that |
| 20:27.03 | Bestial | Is there something else besides Tattle it might be listed as though? |
| 20:27.07 | ckknight | Kaelten: yea, doesn't invalidate my point. |
| 20:27.11 | hyperChipmunk | no need to google; the script is in the svn |
| 20:27.13 | NightHawkAtWork | Bestial: it's on files.wowace.com, no real need to google for it. :P |
| 20:27.14 | Tuller | the-golem: no, it does not |
| 20:27.17 | Bestial | ahh |
| 20:27.20 | Bestial | :) |
| 20:27.31 | hyperChipmunk | http://svn.wowace.com/wowace/trunk/Tattle/ |
| 20:27.33 | ckknight | Kaelten: if they don't want to see my donation links, they don't have to use my addons. |
| 20:27.43 | the-golem | Tuller: ah ok then |
| 20:27.47 | Ailleus | btw nighthawk, google doesnt find wowace tattle ..at least in 1-2 page |
| 20:27.50 | hyperChipmunk | it's the dataminer.lua in there |
| 20:27.59 | hyperChipmunk | ofc RUNNING the script might be a violation of some blizzard rules |
| 20:27.59 | Ailleus | it shows some cc breaker addon called "tattle" |
| 20:27.59 | cladhaire | lol.. just posted on the Lua listserv: what do you think about adding to Lua bits operations, gays? something like that: && - bitwise AND || OR ^^ XOR !! NOT. I know numbers in Lua has floating point (in C code) by default. |
| 20:28.01 | cladhaire | awesome typos. |
| 20:28.21 | ckknight | gays. |
| 20:28.25 | ckknight | hehe |
| 20:28.43 | NightHawkAtWork | Ailleus: "tattle arena wowace" gets pretty close. |
| 20:29.00 | Ailleus | hmm maybe, but just "tattle wow addon" doesnt |
| 20:29.07 | Bestial | yea i tried tattle wow addon |
| 20:29.10 | Bestial | and didn't find anything that way |
| 20:29.20 | Mecdemort | http://files.wowace.com/Tattle/Tattle.zip |
| 20:29.39 | hyperChipmunk | http://files.wowace.com/Tattle/Tattle.zip |
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| 20:29.45 | Ailleus | then you need to know tattle and that is a wowace addon and its used in arena (for "tattle arena wowace") - which a normal user doesnt know |
| 20:29.48 | NightHawkAtWork | To really get that one addon, you'd probably need something like armory/arena in the query, to realky narrow it down |
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| 20:30.38 | Ailleus | ckknight add breakaura!!!:( |
| 20:30.38 | TehSuicide | i need a person which knows everything about eepanels2 - plz qry me! |
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| 20:30.52 | ckknight | Ailleus: make a jira ticket |
| 20:30.57 | elusif | what's the cmd line syntax for the who window to see who is in the same area as me please? |
| 20:30.57 | Mecdemort | and http://files.wowace.com/Gladiator/Gladiator.zip uses tattle for arena |
| 20:31.02 | NightHawkAtWork | Ailleus: I think "tattle arena wow" is fairly decent a query. I think the key is having both tattle and arena and/or armory in the query. Otherwise you get extraneous data |
| 20:31.03 | Ailleus | jira? |
| 20:31.25 | ckknight | Ailleus: jira.wowace.com |
| 20:31.25 | NightHawkAtWork | Ailleus: jira.wowace.com |
| 20:31.47 | elusif | i tried who -thelsamar |
| 20:32.07 | Ailleus | maybe that is@ nighthawkatwork but then again you need to know that tattle is an arena mod. But this discussion on kinda pointless bc prolly neither side will back down. Lets just be happy that bestial found the right link:) |
| 20:32.13 | DrWily | random question, you know when you select a player or mob you get a little glowing circle of the on the ground, it there any way to make changes to that that circle looks like? |
| 20:32.15 | NightHawkAtWork | elusif: you can't do sub-zone name, only the major zones, so /who Loch Modan |
| 20:32.25 | Bestial | actually, I guess I would sorta prefer an external data miner |
| 20:32.30 | Bestial | but, its all good :) |
| 20:32.42 | hyperChipmunk | that is external |
| 20:32.42 | NightHawkAtWork | Ailleus: well, I agree, if you don't know you're looking for an arena/armory mod, your chances of finding one are much slimmer. :) |
| 20:32.46 | hyperChipmunk | you can't run it in wow |
| 20:32.52 | Bestial | ah |
| 20:33.00 | elusif | NightHawkAtWork ty |
| 20:33.18 | hyperChipmunk | you'll have to download the lua standalone interpreter, if you don't have it |
| 20:33.18 | Ailleus | Bestial. www.dopiecentral.com or smth like that is an external BUT data is about 2 months old since the one maintaining addon prolly has not updated its own database |
| 20:33.36 | Ailleus | 2 months old data = useless pretty much |
| 20:33.45 | hyperChipmunk | http://www.lua.org/download.html |
| 20:33.54 | NightHawkAtWork | or you could recode it in a language of your choice, but thats probably more work than downloading an interpreter |
| 20:34.06 | TehSuicide | i need your help. i need to know how i can resize anchor automaticly,i mean,whenever i change the size of my chatframe that it will change it's size automaticly,i didn't find anything @wowace.com |
| 20:34.17 | hyperChipmunk | yeah |
| 20:34.19 | hyperChipmunk | mis |
| 20:34.52 | Bestial | very nice i can get it for mac os x |
| 20:35.05 | Ailleus | imo use tattle dataminer...(no idea how to use that myself either then change dataminers wowarmory.com and lua win32 5.1.1 and luasocked) but never could get it working and put hope on orionshock |
| 20:35.26 | TehSuicide | i need your help. i need to know how i can resize anchor automaticly,i mean,whenever i change the size of my chatframe that it will change it's size automaticly,i didn't find anything @wowace.com |
| 20:37.30 | sag_ich_nicht | lawl denglish, someone help the poor guy :X |
| 20:37.37 | TehSuicide | 8D |
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| 20:41.53 | Ellipsis | hai |
| 20:42.51 | sag_ich_nicht | hai |
| 20:42.55 | sag_ich_nicht | i don't use eepanels2 |
| 20:43.07 | sag_ich_nicht | you probably don't use it either but you seem to use it more than me :P |
| 20:43.32 | TehSuicide | i need help with eepanels2 |
| 20:43.37 | NivFreak | blizz seems to be having some issues |
| 20:43.38 | NivFreak | hehe |
| 20:43.39 | TehSuicide | or i'm goin crazy :S |
| 20:43.48 | NivFreak | forums, armory, and wow website are all down |
| 20:44.06 | TehSuicide | 0.0 |
| 20:44.10 | Ellipsis | sag_ich_nicht: I don't use eePanels but I speak Lua and that seems to be enough :P I'll scroll up, sec |
| 20:44.43 | Bestial | maybe blizzard took down the forums cuz feral druids were upset |
| 20:44.49 | Ellipsis | oh |
| 20:44.51 | CIA-12 | 03warloxx * r50951 10GameLobby/Core.lua: |
| 20:44.51 | CIA-12 | GameLobby: |
| 20:44.52 | CIA-12 | - fixed a bug that occurs while tring to register two same memoizations. |
| 20:44.55 | NivFreak | what were they upset about now? |
| 20:44.58 | Ellipsis | TehSuicide: read the eePanels2 thread, there's lots of good info in there |
| 20:45.08 | TehSuicide | :S i read it |
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| 20:45.40 | TehSuicide | but there is nothing about "automatic resize" or stuff like that |
| 20:47.43 | Ellipsis | bleh |
| 20:47.53 | Ellipsis | I'd get you the link but I can't run Firefox and WoW at the same time |
| 20:47.54 | Ellipsis | >_< |
| 20:48.33 | TehSuicide | :S |
| 20:49.37 | Arrowmaster | so im not the only person |
| 20:49.41 | Paene | anyone know where you can download gmail? |
| 20:50.25 | siIentium | is it not on files.wowace.com ? |
| 20:50.45 | Paene | nope |
| 20:50.50 | Kaelten | gmail was discontinued |
| 20:51.01 | Paene | I found a filefront link to it |
| 20:51.04 | Kaelten | it was replaced by Postal I think |
| 20:51.09 | CIA-12 | 03hyperactiveChipmunk * r50952 10Gladiator/Gladiator.toc: |
| 20:51.09 | CIA-12 | Gladiator: |
| 20:51.09 | CIA-12 | - fixed load-order of libraries (hC) |
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| 20:51.16 | Paene | meh, I like gmail better than postal |
| 20:51.18 | Xinhuan | Kaelten: Postal hasn't been updated in months |
| 20:51.22 | TehSuicide | 8( |
| 20:51.33 | Xinhuan | the official thread hasn't been answered by the author for months |
| 20:51.36 | Kaelten | gmail's last update was long before postal go started |
| 20:51.36 | hyperChipmunk | postal gave up in favor of bulkmail |
| 20:51.44 | mikma | yeah, ctmod authors said that gmail is 1:1 code of their addon so they had to write new one |
| 20:51.54 | Kaelten | and it was a pretty close match |
| 20:51.55 | mikma | i myself use zMail, it's pretty fine |
| 20:51.55 | Xinhuan | and the queries go unanswered |
| 20:52.01 | hyperChipmunk | grennon threw in the towel |
| 20:52.19 | Srosh | Still using Postal just fine. |
| 20:52.22 | hyperChipmunk | bulkmail reigns supreme! |
| 20:52.44 | Xinhuan | i have to edit Forward.lua everytime because Postal makes a annoying "mail sound" on PLAYER_LEAVING_WORLD |
| 20:52.51 | Xinhuan | because it calls some unneeded function |
| 20:53.08 | Kaelten | :P |
| 20:53.10 | hyperChipmunk | over my dead body |
| 20:53.24 | Kaelten | well we all know that bulkmail needs a lot more work to get to where it needs to be |
| 20:53.32 | Kaelten | you could skip ahead by taking over postal |
| 20:53.39 | hyperChipmunk | >8 |
| 20:53.41 | hyperChipmunk | >8\ |
| 20:53.42 | Kaelten | lol |
| 20:53.48 | hyperChipmunk | dude, that's not even funny |
| 20:53.56 | hyperChipmunk | i worked friggin' hard on that |
| 20:53.56 | Paene | I like gmail's multi-mail interface better than postal's |
| 20:53.56 | Kaelten | I'm joking with ya man |
| 20:54.09 | hyperChipmunk | i hope your dog gets hit by a truck |
| 20:54.31 | Fisker- | but you'll get one as a gift |
| 20:54.35 | Fisker- | and that dog will get hit by a truck |
| 20:54.44 | Xinhuan | also Kaelten, wtb download stats for August and September, doesn't have to be "unique Ip downloads" |
| 20:54.55 | Kaelten | Xinhuan 19.99 apeice |
| 20:55.06 | Xinhuan | pfft |
| 20:55.12 | Xinhuan | i know you can do it ;p |
| 20:55.16 | mikma | what is wrong with CT_MailMod? :P |
| 20:55.21 | Kaelten | for $19.99 apeice |
| 20:55.24 | Kaelten | :P |
| 20:55.26 | hyperChipmunk | mikma: silence, heathen |
| 20:56.02 | TehSuicide | eepanels2 doesn't like me :( |
| 20:56.06 | mikma | it's small, and it works |
| 20:56.22 | Xinhuan | its difficult to gauge the popularity of an addon without download stats ;p |
| 20:56.24 | hyperChipmunk | it's not small though |
| 20:56.33 | hyperChipmunk | bulkmail is like half its size |
| 20:56.47 | hyperChipmunk | that's what drove me to writing it in the first place |
| 20:57.08 | Kaelten | omen is likely #1 |
| 20:57.33 | Xinhuan | yeah but authors do want to know where they stand in relation :) |
| 20:57.34 | xyu | nope, i think it's the jump counter definately. |
| 20:57.49 | xyu | counting how many times you jump is crucial |
| 21:00.51 | Pkekyo | will the s2 arena prices be lowered when s3 hits? |
| 21:00.58 | TehSuicide | i need an addon that allows me to move everything (like characterscreen) |
| 21:01.24 | Tinyboom | xyu: at least as a gnome:p <3 jumpcounter, best useless addon i have:p |
| 21:01.44 | Tinyboom | hyperChipmunk: bulkmail <3 |
| 21:02.08 | hyperChipmunk | darn right <3 |
| 21:02.08 | xyu | Pkekyo: i believe i heard that they will, yes. |
| 21:02.09 | sag_ich_nicht | TehSuicide: fluidframes :X |
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| 21:02.45 | Pkekyo | awesome, then I will get almost enough arena points to buy the s2 chest, and then I'll redecide and wait for s3 prices to be lowered instead x) |
| 21:03.49 | xyu | vicious cycle |
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| 21:03.58 | Kemayo | Bulkmail is great, even if I don't use it as well as I could. |
| 21:04.07 | Pkekyo | xyu: indeed ;> |
| 21:04.13 | Fisker- | BulkMail > Kemayo |
| 21:04.15 | Fisker- | true story |
| 21:04.33 | Kemayo | :P |
| 21:05.19 | CIA-12 | 03kaelten * r50953 10LibRock-1.0/LibRock-1.0.lua: LibRock-1.0: removed lockup hack here as well. |
| 21:05.48 | Samir | Hey guys, can somebody here recommend some decent text editor for scripting lua files? |
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| 21:06.15 | sag_ich_nicht | Kaelten: that was not a bug. :X |
| 21:06.20 | Marli | notepad |
| 21:06.21 | Marli | :] |
| 21:06.26 | Olison | Kaelten: lockup hack? :o what was that about? |
| 21:06.30 | Kaelten | sag_ich_nicht: I'm fully aware |
| 21:06.42 | Samir | na ;) |
| 21:07.29 | Kaelten | Olison: there was code to purposely lock up your wow install if you changed some of the behaviours of LibRock or LibRockComm |
| 21:07.30 | Marli | lol? |
| 21:07.43 | Olison | wtf! |
| 21:07.45 | cryogen | Kaelten: wtf? you remove tha but not scrooge? man |
| 21:08.04 | Kaelten | cryogen: I've asked shadowed to remove the spamming functionality |
| 21:08.06 | Olison | cryogen: well at least scrooge doesnt harm your wow |
| 21:08.06 | hyperChipmunk | i don't think scrooge locks up wow |
| 21:08.06 | Kaelten | which he is doing |
| 21:08.19 | cryogen | Olison: neitherdoes rock, if you leave it alone |
| 21:08.22 | Marli | Spamming function |
| 21:08.22 | Marli | Hm |
| 21:08.25 | Shadowed | hyperChipmunk it doesn't lock it up, it was rock doing it |
| 21:08.27 | Ellipsis | the combination of the two caused lockups |
| 21:08.28 | hyperChipmunk | spamming functionality? he actually put the /whispers in? |
| 21:08.32 | Shadowed | yea |
| 21:08.34 | hyperChipmunk | lol |
| 21:08.35 | Shadowed | it was disabled by default thought |
| 21:08.38 | hyperChipmunk | that was a joke O_o |
| 21:08.39 | Shadowed | so not really spammy |
| 21:08.43 | Shadowed | I was bored |
| 21:08.44 | Olison | Kaelten: who comitted this locking-up code? |
| 21:08.48 | Kaelten | ckknight |
| 21:08.51 | hyperChipmunk | i wasn't serious |
| 21:08.53 | hyperChipmunk | rofl |
| 21:08.56 | ckknight | Kaelten: yes? |
| 21:08.58 | Shadowed | l2</serious> stuff |
| 21:09.01 | Kaelten | was answering olison |
| 21:09.03 | cryogen | double standards, sheesh |
| 21:09.09 | ckknight | okay |
| 21:09.11 | Kaelten | cryogen, nope in no way |
| 21:09.30 | hyperChipmunk | one has code to lock up your wow client |
| 21:09.33 | hyperChipmunk | the other does not |
| 21:09.37 | sag_ich_nicht | find the threat |
| 21:09.38 | cryogen | in every fucking way, scrooge injects itself into rock to disable something the author wanted in, yet its allowed and fine |
| 21:09.41 | cryogen | thats fucked up |
| 21:09.44 | Ellipsis | sag_ich_nicht lolwut |
| 21:09.50 | hyperChipmunk | that doesn't violate the TOC though |
| 21:09.55 | cryogen | i was not caring about this whole thing, but this has really pissed me off |
| 21:09.55 | sag_ich_nicht | Ellipsis: eepanels2 |
| 21:09.56 | sag_ich_nicht | suicide is starting to annoy me on TS :X |
| 21:09.58 | Shadowed | note |
| 21:09.59 | Kaelten | hyperChipmunk: you mean TOS |
| 21:10.03 | hyperChipmunk | er, yes |
| 21:10.04 | Shadowed | it's only modifying Rock if you choose to install it |
| 21:10.16 | hyperChipmunk | yeah, that's user choice |
| 21:10.17 | Ellipsis | hay cool I can right click Omen when it's not active |
| 21:10.22 | sag_ich_nicht | yeah. |
| 21:10.25 | hyperChipmunk | user doesn't choose to have his wow crash |
| 21:10.25 | sag_ich_nicht | i can also rightclick your mom |
| 21:10.29 | sag_ich_nicht | when she's not active |
| 21:10.29 | sag_ich_nicht | :X |
| 21:10.36 | Ellipsis | ~stab Antiarc |
| 21:10.36 | purl | ACTION runs at Antiarc with an origami Swiss Army knife, and inflicts a nasty paper cut. |
| 21:10.36 | cryogen | hyperChipmunk: yes he does, by being a dickwad and installing scrooge |
| 21:10.37 | Kaelten | scrooge is impolite, nothing more. |
| 21:10.48 | Marli | Hm |
| 21:10.50 | Shadowed | not like you're going to donate if you want scrooge installed |
| 21:10.52 | Marli | My skinner doesnt like rock |
| 21:10.52 | hyperChipmunk | that's his choice |
| 21:10.53 | sag_ich_nicht | there's nothing about resize follow scripting apparently in the thread Ellipsis :X |
| 21:10.53 | Shadowed | thus, nothing lost |
| 21:11.06 | cryogen | Shadowed: dont change your argument, you dont give a flying fuck about donations |
| 21:11.08 | sag_ich_nicht | btw. |
| 21:11.09 | hyperChipmunk | personally, i'd just edit it out locally |
| 21:11.10 | sag_ich_nicht | Shadowed |
| 21:11.10 | cryogen | dont pretend that you do |
| 21:11.13 | sag_ich_nicht | what you showed me earlier |
| 21:11.14 | sag_ich_nicht | works |
| 21:11.15 | sag_ich_nicht | :X |
| 21:11.16 | Shadowed | cryogen, I've said that multiple times actually. I'm not changing the argument |
| 21:11.29 | Ellipsis | sag_ich_nicht: I dunno, can't really write a script for him now either since I can't pastey it |
| 21:11.41 | sag_ich_nicht | Ellipsis: i figured that |
| 21:11.43 | hyperChipmunk | i'm kinda embarrassed about the donate button there actually |
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| 21:11.56 | sag_ich_nicht | and i'm not even really sure how eepanels2 works |
| 21:11.58 | sag_ich_nicht | and i don't need it |
| 21:11.59 | sag_ich_nicht | >.> |
| 21:12.00 | Ellipsis | if he really wants to do the resizing and can't figure out Lua, then he should just do what I did with eePanels1 |
| 21:12.04 | Kaelten | cryogen: If I write an addon that you love except 1 thing and you go in and change that 1 thing is that wrong? |
| 21:12.16 | Marli | Yes very |
| 21:12.17 | Marli | And you would cry |
| 21:12.21 | Marli | amirite |
| 21:12.23 | Ellipsis | put the chat frames at the bottom of the screen and anchor the panels to them so that when the chat frame minimizes the panel slides off the bottom and it looks almost as good :/ |
| 21:12.49 | cryogen | Kaelten: without the authors permission? hell yes it is |
| 21:12.57 | Marli | :| |
| 21:13.12 | CIA-12 | 03sylvanaar 07sylvanaar * r50954 10Prat/Refactor2/: Prat: Branched for code cleanup, and experimentation with Rock. |
| 21:13.19 | TehSuicide | 04O10k i try it,thx |
| 21:13.21 | Shadowed | Theres a difference between modifying the actual code of Rock, and changing something with an external addon. |
| 21:13.28 | Xinhuan | i believe that is dependant on the liscense/copyright |
| 21:13.40 | Kaelten | cryogen: ok, well since ck gave his permission then you have no reason to be upset |
| 21:13.43 | Xinhuan | and on the method used |
| 21:13.48 | stavmar | mstav30madmax30 |
| 21:13.50 | Kaelten | Rock is licensed under the LGPL |
| 21:13.57 | Ailleus | Wrong how? ethically or juridically? |
| 21:14.12 | ckknight | yea, there's a difference between legal obligation and morality |
| 21:14.13 | Xinhuan | LGPL allows users to modify the code locally without distribution, does it not? |
| 21:14.26 | Marli | Addons are just scripts made publically available |
| 21:14.30 | Kaelten | nope you can distro y ou just have to likewise make your code lgpl |
| 21:14.32 | Marli | You can do whatever the fuck you want with them |
| 21:15.14 | cryogen | i dont see any permission being given |
| 21:15.25 | Kaelten | http://svn.wowace.com/wowace/trunk/LibRock-1.0/LibRock-1.0.toc |
| 21:15.26 | hyperChipmunk | no addon under any circumstance should be deliberately programmed in a way that breaks wow. addons can be dickish, yes; they're dickish, then. But they're not actively BREAKING YOUR GAME. If it was made such that the presence of scrooge causes rock to break itself, that would be dickish, too, but still okay. What is NOT okay is BREAKING EVERYTHING EVERYWHERE because someone touched your code. |
| 21:15.26 | Ailleus | since legally many things are not allowed but ppl do, like ripping movies, but ethically who not change smth to suit your needs a bit better - that way this "addons" serves you better thus you are more grateful to its author ect |
| 21:16.03 | Arrowmaster | disabling version querys = very dickish |
| 21:16.06 | sag_ich_nicht | hyperChipmunk: actually, that might even be against the WoW ToS |
| 21:16.06 | vithos | you don't have to lgpl things that use an lgpl'd library, that's kinda the point of lgpl vs gpl |
| 21:16.17 | Xinhuan | Ailleus: that depends on the laws regarding "Fair use" |
| 21:16.19 | Marli | I dont see copyright cryogen where is the problem |
| 21:16.30 | Kaelten | vithos: the scenario was more of a staded going in and changing someones code |
| 21:16.31 | cryogen | what the hell does it have to do with copyright? |
| 21:16.41 | sylvanaar | actually, runtime modifications by foriegn code is very shady and virus-like |
| 21:16.42 | Xinhuan | a person ripping a movie he has purchased as a backup is "fair use" if he doesn't use it for any other purpose |
| 21:16.44 | CIA-12 | 03shadowed * r50955 10Scrooge/Scrooge.lua: Scrooge: Removed /scrooge business, you'll need to just click the error message for now, I'll add better code to kill the check entirely later. Or, you could uncomment the error function hook if it bothers you that much. |
| 21:16.59 | Marli | If its not copyright, who the hell cares what you do with it |
| 21:17.17 | Kaelten | Marli: I believe things are all rights reserved by default |
| 21:17.22 | vithos | Kaelten: ah, yeah sorry. misread what you said |
| 21:17.25 | hyperChipmunk | sylvanaar: that's called a hook; we use them all the time |
| 21:17.29 | Marli | :| |
| 21:17.30 | Antiarc | Runtime modifications by foreign code in a system like the WoW UI is not only okay, it's the norm. |
| 21:17.31 | Marli | You believe |
| 21:17.32 | ckknight | btw, the lockup was just a temporary thing, I'm changing things to fail better now |
| 21:17.39 | Shadowed | ... |
| 21:17.42 | Shadowed | like hell it was |
| 21:17.44 | hyperChipmunk | lol |
| 21:18.12 | Shadowed | Maybe if I broke WoW due to the hook you could claim that, but theres no way in heel it was a "temporary" thing given you could simply have added error() like Kaelten did |
| 21:18.12 | sylvanaar | hyperChipmunk you are on the other side of the ethical position you took yesterday |
| 21:18.15 | TehSuicide | it doesn't work |
| 21:18.19 | mikma | trunk is ckk's playground |
| 21:18.22 | mikma | remember that asshats |
| 21:18.28 | hyperChipmunk | no; i'm on the side of don't screw the user |
| 21:18.33 | hyperChipmunk | always have been |
| 21:18.43 | cryogen | the only asshats ive seen in this whole affair have been from the ace2 core team |
| 21:18.47 | hyperChipmunk | we provide them a SERVICE |
| 21:18.50 | cryogen | the more this shit continues the moe that becomes apparent |
| 21:19.01 | Marli | Why are the addons in BACKWARDS alphabetically in WAU |
| 21:19.02 | TehSuicide | i'm going craaaazy :S |
| 21:19.14 | hyperChipmunk | we're supposed to be HELPING them, not breaking their game or eating their resources because we say we know what's better for them |
| 21:19.28 | Tuller | I propose a scrooge disabler addon!. local enabled = select(4, GetAddOnInfo('Scrooge')); if enabled then DisableAddOn('Scrooge'); ReloadUI() end |
| 21:19.37 | Kaelten | cryogen: I don't appreciated being called an asshat, especially when I've not done anything to justify it. |
| 21:19.47 | mikma | Tuller: YEAH BABY! |
| 21:19.56 | Xinhuan | what if, ckknight adds a function that checks for scrooge's presence every minute and then if it detects it, LibRock shuts itself down with a message that Scrooge is incompatible? :) |
| 21:20.01 | cryogen | i dont care, we each have our opinions |
| 21:20.09 | Shadowed | I could hook DisableAddOn anyway |
| 21:20.11 | cryogen | the lengths you people go to oust ckk is really quite something |
| 21:20.16 | hyperChipmunk | F.U. tuller! |
| 21:20.20 | Shadowed | And it wont disable it during load, so I can just make it call EnableAddon =p |
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| 21:20.35 | Kaelten | cryogen: If I wanted to oust ckk he wouldn't be here, or on the website, I don't want to hear that shit either. |
| 21:20.42 | art3mis | http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info7517-HelloKittyIslandAdventure.html <-- helloween edition posted! |
| 21:20.46 | *** part/#wowace art3mis (n=art3mis@ool-18b9f13e.dyn.optonline.net) |
| 21:20.49 | Tuller | Shadowed: see that's where you name it !!!!!!!!Screwed |
| 21:20.49 | Shadowed | Xinhuan, hook the function he checks, return that it's not there. problem solved |
| 21:20.50 | Xinhuan | o_O |
| 21:20.50 | ckknight | I hate this game of cat and mouse |
| 21:20.59 | Kaelten | ckknight: then don't play it |
| 21:21.02 | hyperChipmunk | cryogen: be very careful about drawing personal motives where they don't exist |
| 21:21.07 | stavmar | uhm, i know you guys are arguing, but the lowly user has a question, can someone take a look http://ace.pastey.net/74845-agav |
| 21:21.15 | hyperChipmunk | shup luser!!!!! |
| 21:21.23 | Shadowed | users? screw them |
| 21:21.31 | sag_ich_nicht | i'll screw your mom |
| 21:21.32 | cryogen | hyperChipmunk: the evidence is the contrary |
| 21:21.35 | sag_ich_nicht | also, there is a user here |
| 21:21.42 | Kaelten | cryogen: you're assuming that I have some desire to try to degrade or attack ckknight, I don't. |
| 21:21.43 | sag_ich_nicht | who has been asking for help the past hour |
| 21:21.56 | cryogen | Kaelten: only because it would be a pr nightmare for "you" otherwise |
| 21:22.03 | sag_ich_nicht | quit your flaming for a moment :X |
| 21:22.04 | hyperChipmunk | cryogen: not at all; point in fact, i actually use Rock addons as well as Ace, and i think ckk's a good guy in general |
| 21:22.14 | Shadowed | PR? |
| 21:22.15 | ckknight | I just want my donations to be seen, dammit |
| 21:22.15 | Kaelten | cryogen: you're also assuming that if I did, I would go through stupid roundabout ways, which I wouldn't |
| 21:22.19 | Shadowed | Ace isn't a business |
| 21:22.28 | hyperChipmunk | he's just seemed to have come misguided as of late...but i still report bugs to him |
| 21:22.34 | sylvanaar | ok - wait, i expect more out of you guys - you know very well what sort of software scrooge is. |
| 21:22.44 | stavmar | i cannot access the addon prefs, that is when the erros occcur |
| 21:22.48 | cryogen | if your ultimate goal is to drive people away from ace2, you are succeeding with me at least |
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| 21:22.51 | Antiarc | Nobody's really saying "Scrooge is great!", sylvanaar. |
| 21:22.54 | mikma | it's not like people who want to see your addons use scrooge anyway |
| 21:22.59 | mikma | users choice |
| 21:23.04 | sylvanaar | no, but you shouldnt be defending it |
| 21:23.08 | Kaelten | cryogen: nope, not in the least |
| 21:23.08 | Antiarc | People are saying "Hardlocking the user's UI is very, very bad. Much worse than modifying another addon at runtime." |
| 21:23.11 | Shadowed | Scrooge gives users a choice, simple as that. |
| 21:23.17 | Shadowed | If you don't like it, don't use it. |
| 21:23.17 | Corgan | ....scrooge is dumb |
| 21:23.19 | Shadowed | Everyones happy |
| 21:23.19 | Kaelten | not ace2, or rock |
| 21:23.24 | Kaelten | Corgan: than please don't run it |
| 21:23.25 | hyperChipmunk | you don't have to use scrooge |
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| 21:23.39 | Corgan | I don't |
| 21:23.40 | sylvanaar | you shouldnt be defending it - it makes you look bad |
| 21:23.46 | Shadowed | If Kael decides he doesn't want scrooge on SVN, I'll happly remove it but not because users are being fanbois |
| 21:24.00 | yssaril | anyone else having problems connectiong to worldofwarcraft.com? |
| 21:24.05 | hyperChipmunk | "I may not agree with what you say, but I'll defend to the death your right to say it." |
| 21:24.08 | Kaelten | yssaril: ya down best I can tell |
| 21:24.13 | Kaelten | hyperChipmunk: good quote |
| 21:24.15 | yssaril | Kaelten: kk |
| 21:24.22 | hyperChipmunk | that's only half of the real quote |
| 21:24.33 | hyperChipmunk | the rest is "...unless you crash my WoW, you jerk." |
| 21:24.50 | *** kick/#wowace [hyperChipmunk!n=kaelten@adsl-76-251-95-6.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net] by Kaelten (you can't improve on voltaire) |
| 21:24.55 | Pkekyo | 110 hit rating sufficient for warrior DW dps? |
| 21:24.57 | *** join/#wowace hyperChipmunk (n=staharaj@d14-69-214-77.try.wideopenwest.com) |
| 21:24.58 | *** mode/#wowace [+o hyperChipmunk] by ChanServ |
| 21:24.59 | sylvanaar | um, allright, this is out of hand. |
| 21:25.07 | *** kick/#wowace [Kaelten!n=staharaj@d14-69-214-77.try.wideopenwest.com] by hyperChipmunk (I just did!) |
| 21:25.10 | cryogen | noone is forced to use any addon containing a donate button either. |
| 21:25.11 | *** join/#wowace Kaelten (n=kaelten@adsl-76-251-95-6.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net) |
| 21:25.11 | *** mode/#wowace [+o Kaelten] by ChanServ |
| 21:25.13 | ckknight | fine, I won't crash your wow |
| 21:25.16 | kebinusan | ~fanboism |
| 21:25.17 | purl | "Are you Judian People's Front? F*ck off! We're People's Front of Judia. Are we? I thought we were the popular front. Piss off! What ever happened to the popular front? He's over there." |
| 21:25.20 | Tuller | ckknight: Just kill Rock if Scrooge is installed if you feel so badly about it. Crashing the game was an immature thing to do. |
| 21:25.30 | hyperChipmunk | he did it |
| 21:25.48 | Shadowed | it's really not worth the time or effort to try disabling Scrooge |
| 21:25.53 | Kaelten | :P |
| 21:25.54 | Shadowed | I can always find a way around it, and you just waste time trying |
| 21:26.00 | Shadowed | or I can hook what you check |
| 21:26.05 | Kaelten | I discourage all games of cat and mouse |
| 21:26.10 | Kaelten | its really unproductive |
| 21:26.14 | ckknight | of course it is, since this is ultimately a political attack on me rather than a technological feat |
| 21:26.19 | sylvanaar | im sorry, you are in software piracy land |
| 21:26.44 | Shadowed | Actually I enjoy figuring out how to break your lock, it's amusing |
| 21:26.47 | Kaelten | ckknight: its nothing of the sort, stop sounding like a victim |
| 21:26.52 | Shadowed | gives me something to think about when leveling |
| 21:26.52 | yssaril | Kaelten: any plans of adding AceComm to Ace3? |
| 21:26.59 | Kaelten | yssaril: yes |
| 21:27.04 | cryogen | Kaelten: its *everything* of the sort, Shadowed publically admitted it more than once |
| 21:27.09 | Shadowed | no i haven't |
| 21:27.11 | ckknight | Kaelten: how am I not a victim in this? |
| 21:27.13 | Shadowed | you're putting words into my mouth |
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| 21:27.22 | Kaelten | ckknight: how are you, and how is this political? |
| 21:27.27 | RogueShadow | alright, what did I miss? |
| 21:27.28 | ckknight | Shadowed is deliberately removing my donation buttons |
| 21:27.31 | sylvanaar | its like removing the registration button on shareware |
| 21:27.32 | Shadowed | no |
| 21:27.33 | Kaelten | on his computer |
| 21:27.37 | ckknight | which I consider a personal affront on me |
| 21:27.37 | Kaelten | oh damn him! |
| 21:27.38 | sylvanaar | its piracy |
| 21:27.40 | Shadowed | I'm removing ALL donation buttons on Ace2 and Rock addons, not specifically your addons |
| 21:27.47 | Antiarc | You're dangerously close to the Tivo argument, sylvanaar. |
| 21:27.49 | Shadowed | nor specifically your framework |
| 21:27.57 | ckknight | then I fight for my brethren who have donation buttons as well |
| 21:28.05 | hyperChipmunk | then it's no longer personal |
| 21:28.07 | Tuller | hahahahahahaa |
| 21:28.14 | Tuller | you used the word 'bretheren' :) |
| 21:28.15 | ckknight | but it's mostly about my buttons |
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| 21:28.19 | Kalman| | I think Tuller has the best response here. |
| 21:28.20 | Kaelten | ckknight: I know how you feel in regards to that, ~30-45% of wowace's traffic use adblockers |
| 21:28.22 | ckknight | I'm thinking about my own self-interest here |
| 21:28.23 | Shadowed | actually i'm not even removing your donation button |
| 21:28.30 | Shadowed | i'm removing the table before you turn it into a donation button |
| 21:28.31 | RogueShadow | Who's removing buttons? On the svn? or personal computer? |
| 21:28.32 | ckknight | Kaelten: yea, those guys suck |
| 21:28.33 | xyu | I dont think the people who installed scrooge were going to donate ^_^ |
| 21:28.34 | Kaelten | but its not worth trying to cat and mouse against it |
| 21:28.37 | sylvanaar | its the same as defeating copy protection measures |
| 21:28.45 | Shadowed | thats slightly different thought Kaelten |
| 21:28.46 | ckknight | Kaelten: then kill the mouse now. |
| 21:28.46 | CIA-12 | 03rabbit * r50956 10BigWigs/Prototype.lua: BigWigs: Prototype: Make :Sync("SyncName", "Rest", "EvenMore") work like :Sync("SyncName Rest EvenMore"). |
| 21:28.52 | Antiarc | sylvanaar: And also the same as stealing TV by skipping the commercials am i rite? |
| 21:28.58 | Kaelten | Shadowed: /me shrugs |
| 21:29.03 | RogueShadow | Ok ok, i'm slowly getting whats going on here. |
| 21:29.04 | Kalman| | No, it really, really isn't the same as breaking rights management, especially given that the code EXPLICITLY gives the right to its users to modify it. |
| 21:29.12 | Shadowed | ckk wants donations, but doesn't need donations |
| 21:29.13 | RogueShadow | He made an addon, that removes donation buttons from addons? |
| 21:29.17 | kebinusan | Antiarc: All the real advertising is done by product placement anyway |
| 21:29.19 | Shadowed | wowace needs ads to keep the server up |
| 21:29.23 | sylvanaar | Antiarc thats another argument - dont confuse the issue |
| 21:29.24 | cryogen | 22:27 <@Kaelten> on his computer |
| 21:29.25 | hyperChipmunk | I delete the big (Gladiator): tag at the front of its announcements; does that make me a lawless cretin too? |
| 21:29.28 | Tuller | RogueShadow: yep |
| 21:29.34 | cryogen | if its his computer, why doesnt it need to be in the wowace svn? |
| 21:29.39 | cryogen | and by proxy, wau |
| 21:29.42 | ckknight | Shadowed: I like eating and the like, too |
| 21:29.43 | Pkekyo | 110 hit rating sufficient for warrior DW dps? or should I start regemming? |
| 21:29.50 | sag_ich_nicht | HEY |
| 21:29.51 | Shadowed | No, you're getting into needing donations to develop now. |
| 21:29.52 | sag_ich_nicht | GUYS |
| 21:29.54 | Antiarc | sylvanaar: It's exactly the same argument. You're arguing that removing donation buttons is akin to piracy. That's no different than arguing that failing to watch commercials that air with a TV show is akin to piracy. |
| 21:30.06 | sag_ich_nicht | EEPANELS2. MAKE THE PANELS FOLLOW CHATFRAME1 WHEN IT'S RESIZED. |
| 21:30.07 | sag_ich_nicht | HOW |
| 21:30.09 | Antiarc | Which is an argument used by the TV execs, by the way |
| 21:30.11 | Antiarc | And it's insane. |
| 21:30.18 | sag_ich_nicht | (capslock is needed, because you are too much into your flame atm) |
| 21:30.18 | Kaelten | sag_ich_nicht: watch the caps bro |
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| 21:30.24 | hyperChipmunk | lol |
| 21:30.28 | hyperChipmunk | how appropriate a name |
| 21:30.31 | sag_ich_nicht | Kaelten: you are too much into your flame atm to notice it otherwise |
| 21:30.33 | sylvanaar | no, tive records them |
| 21:30.34 | RogueShadow | I feel that if you make an addon for the sole purpose of altering other people's addon's. your going too far, if your publishing it. If you alter the code on your computer then nobody cares. |
| 21:30.40 | Shadowed | note |
| 21:30.48 | sylvanaar | it doesnt change any content |
| 21:30.49 | Kaelten | sag_ich_nicht: no I've never used that one so I have no idea :) |
| 21:30.51 | ckknight | I agree with RogueShadow |
| 21:30.54 | Shadowed | Didn't ckk do a compatability layer with rophy's parser? which is modifying another persons addon |
| 21:31.03 | Antiarc | It's a good thing that there aren't any other addons that modify third party addons then, huh? |
| 21:31.05 | Corgan | I agree with RogueShadow.... |
| 21:31.11 | Affen_Uzglug | it's legitimate if he alters the code and follows the license, don't he? |
| 21:31.14 | ckknight | Shadowed: and rophy talked to me about it. now Parser-3.0 (and 4.0) do not do a compat layer if 1.1 exists. |
| 21:31.19 | Antiarc | That argument holds no water in this context. |
| 21:31.26 | ckknight | so no, I don't modify his addon _in the slightest_ |
| 21:31.31 | hyperChipmunk | RogueShadow: but it's an addon that alters another addon on the USER's personal computer |
| 21:31.32 | Antiarc | Addon interoperation, hooking, and modification are a core part of the WoW UI design process. |
| 21:31.37 | Shadowed | also http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/donation |
| 21:31.42 | hyperChipmunk | he's not messing with the public distribution |
| 21:31.45 | Shadowed | you cannot claim that you need the donation button there because it's not a donation then |
| 21:31.51 | cryogen | personally i couldnt give a toss if its legal or not |
| 21:31.55 | cryogen | its just not something you do |
| 21:31.59 | Saroz | Whats Molten Punch on Supremus? |
| 21:32.01 | Shadowed | sure it is |
| 21:32.06 | sylvanaar | um, if i remove the registration on shareware, its piracy |
| 21:32.07 | RogueShadow | hyperChipmunk, that's fine with me then. Why bother telling the world about this? |
| 21:32.09 | Shadowed | we hook the WoW UI all the time and have to play nicely with eachother |
| 21:32.11 | cryogen | *especially* when specifically asked not to |
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| 21:32.19 | Shadowed | no...you're using that argument incorrectly |
| 21:32.21 | Kalman| | sylvanaar: Not if the shareware is released under LGPL. |
| 21:32.33 | Shadowed | if ckks addons were paid, then you could have somewhat of an argument, but they aren't |
| 21:32.45 | kebinusan | Shadowed, how is spamming back to users playing nice |
| 21:32.51 | Shadowed | kebinusan l2readlogs |
| 21:32.55 | Kaelten | cryogen: (devils advocate) I believe its been asked specifically not to have big brother embeded in libs too |
| 21:32.57 | Saroz | Funkeh`, supremus module is fubar |
| 21:32.59 | Shadowed | A) It was disabled by default, B) kael asked and I removed it. |
| 21:33.01 | sylvanaar | you arent allowed to modify the code that is running, and it must be clear that it is different |
| 21:33.09 | hyperChipmunk | if the user wants to run an addon that removes donation buttons, that's his right; the fact that there's demand for it means somebody wants it. If they had been handled properly in the first place, there'd be no demand to get rid of them |
| 21:33.15 | Affen_Uzglug | on the otherhand side, i dont know why someone would remove the donation button *shrugs* |
| 21:33.19 | sylvanaar | you would need to rename what you modify |
| 21:33.25 | Funkeh` | Saroz: worked perfectly fine yesterday |
| 21:33.28 | cryogen | Kaelten: and an option was added to disable that, at request |
| 21:33.29 | Shadowed | Infact, theres nothing stopping a user from running rock standalone, bumping the rev to 500000000 and removing the donation buttons themself |
| 21:33.36 | Kalman| | sylvanaar: ... have you even read the LGPL? |
| 21:33.38 | hyperChipmunk | Affen_Uzglug: you don't have to know why |
| 21:33.38 | Kaelten | cryogen why not make it opt in then? |
| 21:33.42 | Shadowed | Isn't that option only enabled if you have Rock standalone? |
| 21:33.45 | hyperChipmunk | that's not the argumen |
| 21:33.47 | Shadowed | s/enabled/saved/ |
| 21:33.52 | CIA-12 | 03deccard * r50957 10MiniChat/Core.lua: |
| 21:33.52 | CIA-12 | MiniChat: |
| 21:33.52 | CIA-12 | - fix for error on repositioning buttons |
| 21:33.57 | hyperChipmunk | maybe it offends the chi of the person's layout |
| 21:34.00 | orionshock | morning all |
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| 21:34.04 | Funkeh` | Saroz: Whats wrong? |
| 21:34.17 | cryogen | Kaelten: personally i feel that opt-out is fine as long as its notified to the user at least once, but thats my opinion, but at least the option is there |
| 21:34.17 | Kaelten | reagardless this is getting rediculous |
| 21:34.17 | Arrowmaster | i dont think hooking GetAddOnMetadata and returning nil for requests to X-Donate is a proper way to remove donate buttons though |
| 21:34.23 | hyperChipmunk | throws his interface-shui out of whack |
| 21:34.27 | Shadowed | thats not really needed anymore |
| 21:34.29 | Killmore2 | ckknight !!!! |
| 21:34.34 | cryogen | but anyway, you're all bastards because now i died to mobs while typing in here :p |
| 21:34.39 | ckknight | yes, Killmore2? |
| 21:34.44 | Shadowed | infact, it hasn't been needed anymore for a while really |
| 21:34.46 | Killmore2 | ckknight: everything is broken :( |
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| 21:34.51 | ckknight | how so? |
| 21:34.52 | sylvanaar | Kalman| go show me where it allows for runtime modification of the original without renaming |
| 21:34.52 | Baraius | heh |
| 21:34.58 | art3mis | okay so i have to brag |
| 21:35.03 | Saroz | Funkeh`, it spams punch warning in P1 |
| 21:35.08 | art3mis | http://ambernight.org/2007/09/17/in-other-news-i-re-open-my-wow-account/ Lunessa pointed this out to me |
| 21:35.13 | art3mis | I RULE! |
| 21:35.18 | Killmore2 | ckknight: 2sec, im reloading |
| 21:35.32 | MistakeN^ed1t | question... what is a good ui to use for casters. |
| 21:35.33 | RogueShadow | I wish I could reload in 2sec |
| 21:35.40 | Aens[T] | art3mis: haven't seen you around in a while. Got bored? |
| 21:35.40 | hyperChipmunk | rofl |
| 21:35.48 | art3mis | got sick of you jerks |
| 21:35.54 | Aens|Superiority | oh, ok |
| 21:35.54 | art3mis | ;) |
| 21:35.58 | RogueShadow | I'm just happy my computer is all fixed up. :) I used to have to shut down my computer after 30 mins, to keep it from overheating and locking up. |
| 21:36.00 | RogueShadow | all fixed |
| 21:36.02 | Kalman| | sylvanaar: Your arguing that if shareware is released under LGPL, you can't remove the donation announcement. |
| 21:36.02 | art3mis | oh you meant in game? |
| 21:36.08 | Aeyan | kaelten: I think you broke something in Rock, hehe |
| 21:36.18 | Aeyan | Ah, I see Killmore2 found it as well |
| 21:36.20 | Kalman| | I'm pointing out that the right to do so is implicit in the LGPL. Not necessarily by Shadowed's method, but by the method of altering the code. |
| 21:36.20 | Fisker- | so... |
| 21:36.23 | Kaelten | you must be running scrouge? |
| 21:36.26 | Fisker- | i heard some rumors on the internets |
| 21:36.27 | Kaelten | er scrooge |
| 21:36.27 | Aeyan | Nope |
| 21:36.47 | sylvanaar | Kalman| that you cant write a runtime patcher, or that if you do change it, you have to rename it, or make it otherwise clear |
| 21:36.50 | NeoTron | my god you're still discussing this? |
| 21:36.51 | Aeyan | All rock addons just shattered though with that latest commit |
| 21:36.51 | NeoTron | damn |
| 21:36.55 | ckknight | *sigh* I really don't want to close the source of my addons and libraries. |
| 21:37.14 | art3mis | Aens|Superiority: been mucking on my pally recently. i hit that section of levels thats just absolute ASS for any class.. the 40-60 levels ;) |
| 21:37.21 | RogueShadow | ya. that would suck. |
| 21:37.21 | CIA-12 | 03kaelten * r50958 10LibRock-1.0/LibRock-1.0.lua: LibRock-1.0: whoops typo. |
| 21:37.23 | hyperChipmunk | unfortunately, you can't have it both ways |
| 21:37.24 | NeoTron | ckknight: heh you CAN'T close the source |
| 21:37.26 | Kaelten | :) |
| 21:37.29 | mikma | ckkaddons.com incoming! |
| 21:37.33 | Aeyan | kaelten: the instead of then? |
| 21:37.34 | NeoTron | can license it differently perhaps but it'll always be open.. |
| 21:37.35 | art3mis | oh tbw thanks kael |
| 21:37.36 | Kaelten | yep |
| 21:37.36 | Aeyan | =P |
| 21:37.37 | hyperChipmunk | you can't keep it open source and then say, "you can't do this with it" |
| 21:37.38 | art3mis | btw |
| 21:37.44 | hyperChipmunk | that's the entire idea |
| 21:37.51 | ckknight | NeoTron: the old version would be, of course |
| 21:37.54 | sylvanaar | but you cant keep the name |
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| 21:37.57 | art3mis | i'll post up my latest cycircles shortly |
| 21:38.02 | sylvanaar | you have to rename it if you change it |
| 21:38.03 | Kaelten | it'll repackage in a moment |
| 21:38.04 | hyperChipmunk | to allow people to use it the way THEY want to use it |
| 21:38.06 | ckknight | sylvanaar: yea, that'd be a trademark issue |
| 21:38.21 | NeoTron | ckknight: what I mean is you can't have closed source wow addons |
| 21:38.35 | NeoTron | if you actually want anyone buty ourself using them |
| 21:38.35 | dodga | hyperChipmunk: Isn't there a difference between "open source" and software which is distributed in its source code? There are still licenses that prohibit altering/messing with code AFAIK. But I'm no lawyer :D |
| 21:38.41 | ckknight | NeoTron: yea, but then Kaelten and crew would be able to hide behind the LGPL |
| 21:38.43 | ckknight | wouldn't* |
| 21:39.11 | hyperChipmunk | there is; but we're talking Open Source (capital letters) here |
| 21:39.18 | Arrowmaster | im perty sure the original author is allowed to change the licence on future versions of GPL/LGPL work since it is their original work |
| 21:39.24 | hyperChipmunk | which generally asserts the user's right to run the code how he pleases |
| 21:39.25 | Arrowmaster | without having to change the name |
| 21:39.26 | NeoTron | Arrowmaster: of course |
| 21:39.41 | NeoTron | related question |
| 21:39.57 | Shadowed | If people are that annoyed with me modifying Rock, I can branch it without donations |
| 21:39.59 | m4rku5 | ckknight, you shoudl switch to the MS-RL licence lol |
| 21:40.00 | NeoTron | does WoW EULA/licenses have any requirements for the openess of addons (or licensing thereof)? |
| 21:40.03 | Shadowed | of course, people would be even more unhappy due to that |
| 21:40.05 | kebinusan | Further proof of the Greater Internet Fuckwad Theory |
| 21:40.24 | hyperChipmunk | NeoTron: only that All your AddOn are belong to Bliz |
| 21:40.34 | Kaelten | NeoTron: not sure, but I know they at one point had a statement that made the think they where claiming ownserhip of all addons |
| 21:40.37 | Shinwei | hi guys, I just did my routine update of my addons using the Wowace updater 1.9.44.677, I pressed the F10 key. I then started up WoW and my Fubar disappeared, my pitbull disappeared, and all the addons I had on my pitbull are not clustered on my minimap, anyone else have this problem? |
| 21:40.45 | hyperChipmunk | nearly all games have that |
| 21:41.00 | cryogen | Kaelten: nice job fucking over rock btw! |
| 21:41.03 | Kaelten | Shinwei: try updating again in a few moments |
| 21:41.03 | Tekkub | Shinwei, talk to ckknight |
| 21:41.10 | ckknight | Shinwei: Kaelten made a fuckup |
| 21:41.10 | Shinwei | oh, alright |
| 21:41.13 | Kaelten | cryogen: its called a typo, sure you've seen them |
| 21:41.17 | Shinwei | it's cool i'll wait |
| 21:41.21 | hyperChipmunk | because if they didn't, you could bring action against them if they implement something you wrote, even independentsly |
| 21:41.36 | cryogen | Kaelten: dont you think it would be smart to TEST an unwanted change to someone elses addon? |
| 21:41.45 | hyperChipmunk | same reason authors refuse to listen to story ideas |
| 21:42.22 | dodga | I have a general question regarding this issue.. The whole problem only arised, because both Rock (and addons using Rock) and Scrooge are hosted on wowace, no? I mean, nobody could stop ckknight from doing what he did in Rock if he hosted it, say, on WoWI; and the same applies to Shadowed and Scrooge |
| 21:42.25 | Shadowed | cryogen you know, you're probably going to get yourself banned soon |
| 21:42.34 | Shadowed | sure they could |
| 21:42.38 | hyperChipmunk | if they did, then they couldn't use it themselves without having to acknowledge your input, even if it had been their idea all along |
| 21:42.50 | Shadowed | If he put that into Rock, it'd be breaking TOS I guess according to hyper, so WoWI would probably make him remove it |
| 21:42.53 | Arrowmaster | speaking of typoes i see that Shadowed fixed the one in scrooge with the last commit |
| 21:43.07 | dodga | Shadowed: Okay, replace WoWI with <random free web hoster> |
| 21:43.09 | cryogen | Shadowed: that's between the channel operators and I |
| 21:43.22 | *** join/#wowace stavmar_ (n=chatzill@fw2.isgenesis.com) |
| 21:43.24 | Shadowed | only if you were doing it in a message, not in the channel. |
| 21:43.27 | Shadowed | he could use dodga |
| 21:43.35 | Shadowed | but I can disable his checks, it's really not complicated. |
| 21:43.41 | *** join/#wowace Erica (n=erica647@cpe-075-178-181-026.nc.res.rr.com) |
| 21:43.53 | dodga | So what we basically have here is the same crap as with KTM and Omen? :D |
| 21:43.57 | Shadowed | not really |
| 21:44.09 | dodga | Minus that lock-up thingie.. |
| 21:44.09 | Kaelten | dodga, na thats something else entirely |
| 21:44.15 | Shadowed | KTM rejected Omen data, KTM did not entirely kill the users UI |
| 21:44.30 | hyperChipmunk | well, either way it's against the ToS to publish that kind of code intentionally. but it would be up to blizzard to enforce if he did it independent of ace |
| 21:44.31 | Shadowed | or send false data back |
| 21:44.33 | ckknight | and that no longer happens |
| 21:44.58 | Corgan | How can you guys defend an addon that removes donation buttons. The authors ask nothing more than to have the donation button shown. |
| 21:45.04 | dodga | Yeah but the freeze was not because of Rock, but because Rock reacted to Scrooge being installed - which was a choice users had to make |
| 21:45.07 | sylvanaar | thats what i want to know |
| 21:45.08 | hyperChipmunk | locking up users' UIs should be left to those of us who do it accidentally with our crappy code |
| 21:45.11 | Shadowed | dodga no you're playing with words |
| 21:45.12 | Saroz | wtf is this http://pastebin.com/m42034885 ? |
| 21:45.14 | Baraius | I'm glad emotions are not running high or anything. |
| 21:45.15 | sylvanaar | why are they defending that |
| 21:45.20 | Erica | I just downloaded the new rock libraries and everything exploded with a bunch of errors... no fubar, no pitbull, and a bunch of buttons around the minimap |
| 21:45.23 | Shadowed | Thats like if they made Ace3 disable your UI because you used a framework |
| 21:45.26 | Shadowed | besides Ace3 |
| 21:45.30 | Arrowmaster | ## SavedVariables: _G |
| 21:45.40 | hyperChipmunk | Corgan: because he's not removing them in the svn; he's removing them via something that MUST be run BY CHOICE by the user |
| 21:45.40 | Arrowmaster | ^^ crappy code? |
| 21:45.45 | Antiarc | The infinite loop occurred in Rock code. |
| 21:45.48 | Antiarc | Thus, Rock is responsible. |
| 21:45.55 | Kaelten | Corgan: I'm not defending that scrooge, I've found it to be rude, but its not evil. |
| 21:45.59 | Antiarc | This is fairly difficult to dispute. |
| 21:46.06 | Corgan | That's not the point. You guys are hosting an addon that does this. |
| 21:46.09 | hyperChipmunk | Arrowmaster: i'm fond of nesting for loops with re-used _ counters |
| 21:46.12 | Shadowed | not really |
| 21:46.19 | RogueShadow | Erica, I think they just fixed that, try updating again |
| 21:46.25 | Erica | ok thanks |
| 21:46.28 | Shadowed | Rock is the one crashing it, it doesn't matter why or when it's ran, it's still the one doing it. |
| 21:46.29 | sylvanaar | yesterday you were defending peoples rights to lie about their talent specs |
| 21:46.32 | Kaelten | Corgan: might I ask what your stance on adblockers is btw? |
| 21:46.38 | Killmore | ok, everything is ok now |
| 21:46.39 | hyperChipmunk | Corgan: there's nothing wrong with writing the addon |
| 21:46.43 | Killmore | thx Kaelten :P |
| 21:46.45 | Corgan | I don't run it. |
| 21:46.47 | hyperChipmunk | nor hosting it |
| 21:46.51 | Corgan | I don't like it. |
| 21:46.54 | lprich | GAH! not that discussion again! |
| 21:47.00 | lprich | :P |
| 21:47.02 | Kaelten | Killmore: :) |
| 21:47.12 | Erica | It's not updating yet but I'll just be patient and wait... hope you guys get whatever this is resolved soon |
| 21:47.25 | hyperChipmunk | i mean, yes, it's bad form, but it only runs if the user says he wants it |
| 21:47.38 | *** part/#wowace Erica (n=erica647@cpe-075-178-181-026.nc.res.rr.com) |
| 21:47.40 | hyperChipmunk | and the fact that users want it validates its existence |
| 21:47.46 | CIA-12 | 03grum 07WIP * r50959 10Cartographer_Routes/Cartographer_Routes/Core.lua: |
| 21:47.46 | CIA-12 | Cartographer_Routes: |
| 21:47.46 | CIA-12 | - Round minimap support fixed (also any squarish/round combination should work now) |
| 21:47.49 | dodga | What I don't understand in the first place is why users run Scrooge if they want to use ckknight's addons :D |
| 21:47.50 | hyperChipmunk | the user is always right |
| 21:47.56 | Corgan | also, Kaelten, adblockers are different from scrooge |
| 21:47.57 | sylvanaar | no they arent |
| 21:47.59 | kebinusan | the proper option would be to use some other addon |
| 21:48.10 | hyperChipmunk | dodga: that is irrelevant |
| 21:48.21 | Kaelten | Corgan: same principle, as a website owner I ask people to view my ads, sounds the same |
| 21:48.25 | kebinusan | no one is forcing you to use mods that have the x-donate option *shrugs* |
| 21:48.44 | Kalman| | dodga: Because I like ck's addons, but I don't like one specific feature (talent sharing). I actually didn't realize Scrooge did donate disabling. |
| 21:48.47 | dodga | hyperChipmunk: IMHO it is relevant. The lockup only occurs when both addons are installed. Why install Scrooge if you want to use ckkinght's addons? |
| 21:48.48 | hyperChipmunk | like i said, it could be that the donate buttons upset the balance of my UI and that I believe it causes me to die more than i would otherwise |
| 21:48.48 | cryogen | Kaelten: so, if i make a ad free version of WAU, will you host it on wowace.com? |
| 21:48.52 | Corgan | ads bring in revenue from viewing them. |
| 21:48.53 | RogueShadow | adblockers are different, adblockers block annoying ads, including those popups etc. I remember not even being able to use some websites because of all the ad's. :( Scrooge seems to remove one unabtrusive button, that nobody uses. |
| 21:49.03 | NeoTron | dodga: to bounce the "defending" accusation back to you - do you defend rock locking up the UI as an acceptable way to counter scourge? |
| 21:49.06 | ckknight | Kalman|: what feature did you not like, then? |
| 21:49.11 | dodga | Kalman|: That feature was made configurable.. not even 24 hours after people suggested it? |
| 21:49.19 | Kaelten | cryogen: nope. |
| 21:49.20 | Antiarc | Err. Adblockers are the exact same thing. |
| 21:49.24 | Kalman| | ckknight: "talent sharing". I said it the first time. |
| 21:49.28 | cryogen | Kaelten: then how is this ANY different AT ALL? |
| 21:49.29 | Antiarc | Scrooge is a stupidly simple version of AdBlockPlus. |
| 21:49.34 | Antiarc | That's all. |
| 21:49.39 | ckknight | Kalman|: oh, didn't see. Yea, you can disable that now really easy |
| 21:49.49 | dodga | NeoTron: Doing that on purpose is probably not the nicest thing to do. BUT I think it's the same as copy protection :D |
| 21:49.54 | Kalman| | Good. Making it a hidden, non-disableable thing was kinda nasty. |
| 21:50.02 | Kaelten | cryogen: because that'd be like asking me to embed scrooge into Rock |
| 21:50.02 | Shadowed | You're still confusing need and want of money |
| 21:50.06 | Kalman| | Thanks for making it right. :) |
| 21:50.21 | cryogen | fine, i'll make a patch for it |
| 21:50.23 | cryogen | will you host that? |
| 21:50.31 | Shadowed | ckk does not need money to continue developing addons, if he did then they shouldn't be called donations. WoWAce needs money to keep hosting |
| 21:50.37 | dodga | Kalman|: On another note.. I don't think it's a big deal that Rock sends my talent spec around. People can see it every time they please on Blizzards page, so it's no biggie to me |
| 21:50.38 | Shadowed | if everyone blocked the ads, eventually it would have to get shutdown |
| 21:50.42 | hyperChipmunk | no, because then he'd have no money to pay for the servers that host it anymore =) |
| 21:50.47 | CIA-12 | 03stalake * r50960 10Baggins_BtmScan/ (. Baggins_BtmScan.lua Baggins_BtmScan.toc libs/): Baggins_BtmScan: Initial import |
| 21:50.50 | Kaelten | nope |
| 21:50.51 | Mudkipz | LOL |
| 21:50.51 | cryogen | not the point |
| 21:50.55 | Shadowed | yes it is |
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| 21:51.01 | Shadowed | need and want are two different things |
| 21:51.11 | kebinusan | No one is forcing you to donate, but having the donation option there causes zero harm |
| 21:51.14 | ckknight | actually, I pay for my WoW stuff with donations. If donations stopped coming, I wouldn't continue to subscribe to WoW |
| 21:51.14 | hyperChipmunk | it wouldn't be hosted by virtue of the fact that NOTHING would be posted |
| 21:51.16 | Shadowed | ckk wants donations, wowace needs donations |
| 21:51.18 | hyperChipmunk | hosted* |
| 21:51.25 | Shadowed | You've already said you don't get much in donations |
| 21:51.29 | kebinusan | its not just ckknight |
| 21:51.30 | cryogen | Kaelten: then i refer to my earlier "double standards" remark |
| 21:51.34 | ckknight | therefore, I do "need" donations |
| 21:51.36 | kebinusan | other authors use the x-donate thing |
| 21:51.39 | Mudkipz | donate button bothers people??? |
| 21:51.46 | Mudkipz | what the fuck... |
| 21:51.47 | hyperChipmunk | apparently |
| 21:51.50 | Mudkipz | that's just anal |
| 21:51.54 | Shadowed | and given that it costs 15$ a month to play wow, you'd have ran out of money to keep playing it if you truly needed the donations because you yourself, said you don't get many |
| 21:51.54 | Mudkipz | if you don't like it |
| 21:51.57 | hyperChipmunk | sure, but it's not illegal |
| 21:51.57 | Mudkipz | stop using ace mods |
| 21:51.59 | sylvanaar | you know what, wowace doesnt exist without authors either |
| 21:52.02 | Mudkipz | they do this shit for free stop bitching |
| 21:52.08 | dodga | I wonder if people would run around and tear down Amnesty Int. posters because of the same reasons :> |
| 21:52.21 | hyperChipmunk | Mudkipz: nobody's arguing that |
| 21:52.26 | NeoTron | To play devils advocate here, why would it not be in my own right to have it not shown if I wanted to? |
| 21:52.26 | Kalman| | dodga: That's fine. I personally don't want it sending my talent data out. Having the option to turn it off makes us both happy. |
| 21:52.33 | NeoTron | it doesn't bother me but also serves no purpose to me |
| 21:52.36 | Shinwei | safe to update again? |
| 21:52.42 | *** mode/#wowace [+m] by Kaelten |
| 21:52.51 | Kaelten | ok enough |
| 21:53.00 | hyperChipmunk | the argument is whether to facilitate those who don't want it...or more precisely, whether it's acceptable to FREEZE WARCRAFT if they do |
| 21:53.13 | ckknight | and I no longer freeze warcraft |
| 21:53.27 | Tekkub | +m? +morecowbell? |
| 21:53.27 | *** mode/#wowace [-m] by Kaelten |
| 21:53.32 | stavmar_ | question..Does everyone in the raid need oRA for it to function well? |
| 21:53.44 | hyperChipmunk | stavmar_: not precisely, no |
| 21:53.45 | Kalman| | stavmar_: Depends what you want to use it for, really. |
| 21:53.46 | Kaelten | lets keep it more sane and civil |
| 21:53.51 | Kaelten | or I'll remode things |
| 21:53.52 | Baraius | I think it has something to do with mumps. |
| 21:53.55 | NeoTron | stavmar_: not anymore |
| 21:53.58 | Tekkub | sane? here? lawl |
| 21:54.08 | Shinwei | sweet, I just updated again and everything seems to be working fine now. thanks for the quick response guys. |
| 21:54.12 | NeoTron | but if you want things like ready check (better than blizz), and armor, resists etc checks you do |
| 21:54.15 | RogueShadow | o o, i'm civil. :) |
| 21:54.16 | NeoTron | reagent checks.. |
| 21:54.21 | cryogen | NeoTron: you are sort of accepting the authors wishes by using his software, it's the polite thing to do, thats all |
| 21:54.26 | Saroz | Funkeh`, supremus C++ code: http://pastebin.com/m42034885 ? |
| 21:54.29 | HdSiles | first time here.. looks like it is a volatile time to log in here. |
| 21:54.29 | Shinwei | (just that it gives me an error whenever i try to open any sort of Rock config) |
| 21:54.38 | hyperChipmunk | HdSiles: grab some popcorn |
| 21:54.44 | Shadowed | you know, amusingly enough |
| 21:54.48 | stavmar_ | well i guess i am wanting to gather information regarding my raid, buffs durations, soulstones, some other things and was wondering if everyone needs the mod for it to work? |
| 21:54.50 | CIA-12 | 03ckknight * r50961 10LibRockComm-1.0/LibRockComm-1.0.lua: LibRockComm-1.0 - change error message to mention Scrooge by name, and shut down gracefully. |
| 21:54.57 | Shadowed | not many people would have known about scrooge if not for this...but now it's rather obvious what it does |
| 21:55.12 | NeoTron | Shadowed: free marketing ftw? |
| 21:55.15 | Shadowed | indeed |
| 21:55.20 | Kaelten | lol, ya that is kinda crazy, the retaliation brought more attention to scrooge than anything else |
| 21:55.22 | hyperChipmunk | you really are a dick, Shadowed |
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| 21:55.27 | kebinusan | Shadowed, being an asshole is good for marketing |
| 21:55.36 | *** mode/#wowace [+s] by Kaelten |
| 21:55.37 | Kalman| | stavmar_: Anyone you want to pull that kind of information from has to have the mod. |
| 21:55.38 | *** mode/#wowace [-s] by Kaelten |
| 21:55.38 | Shadowed | I could have told you that without this hyperChipmunk |
| 21:55.40 | m4rku5 | Shadowed, bad news is better then no news lol |
| 21:55.56 | stavmar_ | Kalman|: thank you |
| 21:56.08 | *** topic/#wowace by Kaelten -> http://www.wowace.com | http://files.wowace.com/ | http://ace.pastey.net | http://www.lua.org | Upgrade to WAU 1.9.44 or WAU 2.0. | Please keep discussions at least sort of acceptable for minors when you go OT. |
| 21:56.10 | hyperChipmunk | it's "all publicity is good publicity", actually, i think |
| 21:56.13 | CIA-12 | 03shadowed * r50962 10Scrooge/Scrooge.lua: Scrooge: Changed communication blocks so they don't trigger sanity checks |
| 21:56.18 | Tekkub | I find it really amusing, people ask for donating thing removal, shad provides it, ckk says "if you don't wont to see that thing don't use my lib"... end result here... still no donations |
| 21:56.21 | dodga | Saroz: That looks interesting. You got that for Onyxia? :> |
| 21:56.35 | sylvanaar | hmm |
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| 21:56.38 | Saroz | dodga, do google for "CreatureAIScript" |
| 21:56.43 | cryogen | ckknight: i sort of do, but really dont understand why you keep your stuff on the ace svn :/ |
| 21:56.45 | dodga | Aye captain! |
| 21:56.46 | ckknight | Tekkub: yea, but then I don't get leeches like Shadowed using my addons |
| 21:56.52 | NightHawkAtWork | hyperChipmunk: he may be a dick, an asshole, and any number of unsavory terms, but he's still fairly right about a few things, at least wrt to this. |
| 21:57.00 | hyperChipmunk | oh i agree |
| 21:57.01 | Tekkub | Shad was filling a request |
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| 21:57.08 | Shadowed | I fill crazy requests at times actually |
| 21:57.12 | Shadowed | RaidID is another one of those |
| 21:57.13 | hyperChipmunk | i defend him |
| 21:57.16 | Tekkub | he didn't write it for himself of my knowledge |
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| 21:57.19 | hyperChipmunk | but he's still a dick |
| 21:57.20 | Shadowed | nup |
| 21:57.25 | Shadowed | hyperChipmunk again, i'm not arguing this =p |
| 21:57.26 | Industrial | Shadowed: sexual favors. |
| 21:57.29 | NightHawkAtWork | hyperChipmunk: indeed, lots of people are. :) |
| 21:57.34 | Shadowed | I don't use any Rock addons, simply because they don't do anything I need |
| 21:57.41 | Tekkub | and ckk, how many donations have you gotten? |
| 21:57.44 | Industrial | Shadowed: rock it |
| 21:57.45 | Industrial | ;D |
| 21:57.47 | Shadowed | GemCount was another request off Wowace actually |
| 21:57.51 | Tekkub | all but two of my users are "leeches" :P |
| 21:57.59 | Shadowed | infact, I think nameplates was too |
| 21:58.03 | *** part/#wowace HdSiles (n=hdsiles@cpe-67-9-165-152.austin.res.rr.com) |
| 21:58.05 | CIA-12 | 03stalake * r50963 10Baggins_BtmScan/libs/: Baggins_BtmScan: Added externals |
| 21:58.11 | ckknight | Tekkub: from the ingame buttons, probably 10 or so |
| 21:58.13 | hyperChipmunk | all my users are leeches except for 1; he's technically an eel |
| 21:58.17 | Shadowed | and how much did they donate |
| 21:58.17 | ckknight | from donation buttons on websites it's a bit more |
| 21:58.19 | Shadowed | 5$? |
| 21:58.20 | NightHawkAtWork | that reminds me, Shadowed, does gemcount work now? last time i tried it it didn't.. |
| 21:58.24 | Shadowed | NightHawkAtWork dunno, I hope so |
| 21:58.29 | Baraius | Tekkub: Crud. Is there a subscription model now? |
| 21:58.30 | cryogen | can you tell if it comes from in game? |
| 21:58.34 | ckknight | Shadowed: why do you care? |
| 21:58.34 | NightHawkAtWork | i'm going to assume "no" then :) |
| 21:58.41 | sylvanaar | this is such a letdown |
| 21:58.52 | ckknight | cryogen: yea, the title is different. Ingame ones say "Cartographer", out of game ones say "ckknight addons" |
| 21:58.54 | Tekkub | so that's 3 donations? |
| 21:59.06 | hyperChipmunk | lol |
| 21:59.08 | cryogen | ah, neat |
| 21:59.08 | Shadowed | lol |
| 21:59.15 | NightHawkAtWork | haha |
| 21:59.16 | aestil | ~seen grum |
| 21:59.18 | purl | grum is currently on #wowace. Has said a total of 881 messages. Is idling for 6h 39m 9s, last said: 'his ass looks like a quarter-pounder'. |
| 21:59.18 | *** join/#wowace PProvost (n=PProvost@WoWUIDev/WAU/Admin/Pprovost) |
| 21:59.18 | *** mode/#wowace [+v PProvost] by ChanServ |
| 21:59.25 | hyperChipmunk | wtf |
| 21:59.26 | Ellipsis | aestil, he just went to bed |
| 21:59.30 | aestil | damn. |
| 21:59.37 | aestil | i wanted to talk about his farming module. |
| 21:59.49 | hyperChipmunk | note to self: be careful what you say immediately before going afk |
| 21:59.50 | Ellipsis | shoulda tried 10 mins ago then |
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| 22:00.08 | hyperChipmunk | on that note, afk |
| 22:00.15 | hyperChipmunk | my balls are huge |
| 22:00.20 | Ellipsis | ... |
| 22:00.22 | Industrial | rofl |
| 22:00.25 | Erica | Hi... it seems that some of the errors were fixed but now the rock configurator won't work |
| 22:00.28 | kandarz | ~seen hyperChipmunk |
| 22:00.29 | purl | hyperchipmunk is currently on #hosernet (35m 32s) #wowace (35m 32s). Has said a total of 289 messages. Is idling for 14s, last said: 'my balls are huge'. |
| 22:00.30 | Ellipsis | and on THAT note, afk |
| 22:00.33 | *** kick/#wowace [hyperChipmunk!n=kaelten@adsl-76-251-95-6.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net] by Kaelten (stop lying ) |
| 22:00.37 | Ellipsis | I'm thinking of hyperChipmunk's balls |
| 22:00.40 | Industrial | owned |
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| 22:00.41 | *** mode/#wowace [+o hyperChipmunk] by ChanServ |
| 22:00.48 | *** mode/#wowace [-o hyperChipmunk] by Kaelten |
| 22:00.49 | Kody- | Kaelten was talking about him going afk btw |
| 22:00.54 | Industrial | hyperChipmunk: liar, you werent afk! |
| 22:01.01 | Kaelten | hah, now you can't kick me! |
| 22:01.10 | *** mode/#wowace [+o hyperChipmunk] by Kaelten |
| 22:01.13 | ckknight | Erica: what's the issue? |
| 22:01.13 | aestil | Ellipsis: at least you aren't thinking of a humans balls. hyper chipmunks are pretty innocuous. |
| 22:01.16 | kebinusan | autojoin mybets |
| 22:01.18 | NightHawkAtWork | he might be afk, and just have his client set to auto-reconnect |
| 22:01.20 | kandarz | maturity, it's a glorious thing |
| 22:01.21 | NightHawkAtWork | :P |
| 22:01.26 | *** kick/#wowace [Kaelten!n=staharaj@d14-69-214-77.try.wideopenwest.com] by hyperChipmunk (may i have an auto-rejoin auto-counterkick script) |
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| 22:01.29 | *** mode/#wowace [+o Kaelten] by ChanServ |
| 22:01.30 | Tekkub | kael, kick purl to asshole |
| 22:01.34 | NightHawkAtWork | kandarz: yeah, no one here knows what that is, i'msure. :) |
| 22:01.45 | Ellipsis | maturity lol? |
| 22:02.02 | Erica | The issue is that I try to right click on the fubar like I'd been doing to access rock config and I only get an error. I also get an error when I type /rock in chat |
| 22:02.05 | Kaelten | Ellipsis: maturity, whats that? |
| 22:02.10 | Ellipsis | your mom lol! |
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| 22:02.16 | ckknight | Erica: what error? |
| 22:02.17 | Kody- | Maturity on the internet is like peace on Earth |
| 22:02.17 | Arrowmaster | ohh has the slapping hissy fit part of tonights arguments started yet? |
| 22:02.21 | Erica | It was working fine until the last rock updates |
| 22:02.24 | Kalman| | Arrowmaster: Started? |
| 22:02.29 | ckknight | Erica: _WHAT_ error |
| 22:02.35 | kebinusan | May need to update again erica there was a typofix a few minutes ago |
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| 22:03.09 | NeoTron | ~hmm |
| 22:03.09 | purl | from memory, hmm is hidden markov model |
| 22:03.14 | Erica | ok I did an update which was one file which helped... but it's not letting me get back to the rock configuration |
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| 22:03.26 | ckknight | WHAT IS THE GODDAMN ERROR YOU ARE GETTING? |
| 22:03.27 | NeoTron | can you make x raid status to look for any buff, say the kael'thas staff/mace buffs? |
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| 22:03.33 | NeoTron | so I can get a list of ppl w/o |
| 22:03.33 | ckknight | please answer that simple question. |
| 22:03.36 | Erica | let me check again... I don't have the error msg in front of me but I'll copy and paste it if there are no more updates now |
| 22:03.49 | kebinusan | NeoTron: you can make grid display them in some manner, dunno about xrs |
| 22:03.51 | *** part/#wowace Ego^ (n=Administ@82-69-42-201.dsl.in-addr.zen.co.uk) |
| 22:03.57 | Industrial | update addict |
| 22:04.00 | Industrial | :D |
| 22:04.08 | kebinusan | just crontab it |
| 22:04.16 | elusif | in a rogues main hand = damage range > speed (slower) > dps + off hand = dps > damage range > speed (faster)? |
| 22:04.22 | Kalman| | NeoTron: XRS has a function for arbitrary buffs, but it doesn't work for everything necessarily. |
| 22:04.26 | NeoTron | hmm |
| 22:04.28 | Erica | oh geez... the updater is stuck in a loop lol |
| 22:04.40 | elusif | download it from mmo-champion |
| 22:04.45 | NeoTron | my first thoight was a custom addon or bigwigs plugin |
| 22:04.46 | elusif | mine wouldn't update |
| 22:04.50 | NeoTron | but that really shouldn't be needed |
| 22:04.51 | CIA-12 | 03shadowed * r50964 10Scrooge/Scrooge.lua: Scrooge: Killed LibRockComm-1.0 sanity check |
| 22:04.56 | NivFreak | XRS needs some sort of pally buff handling |
| 22:05.06 | Xinhuan | /popcorn |
| 22:05.08 | NivFreak | and I still want a way to make bars of stats for specific people ;) |
| 22:05.09 | dodga | NeoTron: You can have a look at RABuffs, and also Grid would be able to show you that |
| 22:05.13 | Xinhuan | ~popcorn |
| 22:05.21 | NivFreak | I tried RABuffs out, it was ok |
| 22:05.28 | NivFreak | didn't do much more than XRS for me |
| 22:05.31 | kebinusan | grid 4tw |
| 22:05.48 | NivFreak | grid just seems to have a steep learning curve ;) |
| 22:05.53 | dodga | RABuffs is really nice :D I loved it in Blackwing Lair, where you could say "Everybody stand on top of me... A, B, C you're not wearing Onyxia Cloaks..." |
| 22:05.53 | NivFreak | what does that green corner mean again? |
| 22:05.55 | NivFreak | hehe |
| 22:06.11 | NivFreak | dodga: yea, it's pretty cool for some edge cases like that |
| 22:06.28 | dodga | But since I don't do much raid leading these days I just display alive, healer mana, fortitude and shadow protection |
| 22:06.38 | RogueShadow | ckknight, Just got on after updating, including the typo fix, same problem it seems. http://ace.pastey.net/74849 |
| 22:06.39 | stavmar_ | what happened to WAU? |
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| 22:06.50 | NivFreak | rabuffs was sort of cumbersome to add new bars to |
| 22:06.55 | NivFreak | but quite flexible |
| 22:07.07 | NivFreak | still wouldn't let me select specific people by name though :) |
| 22:07.19 | dodga | Yeah :D Never needed that though :D |
| 22:07.23 | dodga | Suggest it to the author :> |
| 22:07.29 | NivFreak | who wrote it? |
| 22:07.30 | NivFreak | :) |
| 22:07.31 | Kalman| | dodga: CTRA itemchecking for ony cloak would tell you who wasn't wearing theirs, amusingly. |
| 22:07.48 | CIA-12 | 03ckknight * r50965 10LibRockConfig-1.0/LibRockConfig-1.0.lua: LibRockConfig-1.0 - bugfix |
| 22:07.49 | kebinusan | I always just hid behind the throne |
| 22:08.01 | dodga | Kalman|: I stopped using CTRA like.. a gazillion years ago :D |
| 22:08.02 | Kalman| | The check didn't include equipped items, so anyone who showed up as having a cloak wasn't wearing theirs. |
| 22:08.09 | Ellipsis | I hid behind the throne too |
| 22:08.14 | dodga | Kalman|: Clever though :D |
| 22:08.15 | Kalman| | dodga: BWL *was* a gazillion years ago. |
| 22:08.21 | Ellipsis | actually, when I got yelled at for doing that, I soulstoned myself and took the death |
| 22:08.25 | aestil | how is tattle much different than [TalentSpec] ? |
| 22:08.35 | Ellipsis | aestil: tattle shows enemy specs too? |
| 22:08.37 | dodga | Kalman|: True :\ |
| 22:08.45 | kebinusan | you could hide in the tunnel near the throne too |
| 22:08.46 | Diao | talentspec also requires them to be using a rock addon |
| 22:08.47 | Kalman| | aestil: Immediacy of information, reliability of information. |
| 22:08.59 | Erica | [2007/10/04 18:08:20-313-x1]: LibRockConfig-1.0--49051 (LibRockConfig-1.0):1737: table index is nilLibRockConfig-1.0--49051 (LibRockConfig-1.0):2290: in function <...rface\AddOns\LibRockConfig-1.0\LibRockConfig-1.0.lua:2232>LibRockConfig-1.0--49051 (LibRockConfig-1.0):675: in function `OpenConfigMenu'FuBar-50710\FuBar_Panel.lua:1039: in function `OpenMenu'FuBar-50710\FuBar_Panel.lua:69: in function <Interface\AddOns\FuBar\FuBar_Panel.lua |
| 22:08.59 | aestil | Ellipsis: doesn't it show information, in game, that would only be available outside the game? |
| 22:09.17 | Ellipsis | yeah, but it doesn't waste the player's resources to do so! |
| 22:09.25 | Erica | that's my error when trying to access the rock configurator |
| 22:09.40 | Ellipsis | Erica, you're too late, and please use pastey for errors |
| 22:09.42 | ckknight | already fixed, Erica , wait 11 minutes |
| 22:10.04 | aestil | Kalman|: [TalentSpec] doesn't work in an arena though. |
| 22:10.08 | Erica | thanks... sorry about not getting that the first time. |
| 22:10.21 | Shadowed | thats because it checks to make sure you're in the same raid. |
| 22:10.39 | Antiarc | TalentSpec also can't communicate cross-faction, ever |
| 22:10.45 | Antiarc | Whereas Tattle can show you enemy faction specs |
| 22:10.53 | Ellipsis | ....I said that |
| 22:10.58 | Antiarc | I must've missed it then |
| 22:11.06 | Ellipsis | it's ok, most people ignore me anywyay |
| 22:11.08 | Ellipsis | anyway* |
| 22:11.12 | Antiarc | Who said that? |
| 22:11.16 | Ellipsis | said what? |
| 22:11.24 | Antiarc | Exactly! |
| 22:11.29 | Ellipsis | =[ |
| 22:11.37 | Xinhuan | petition Blizzard to make certain functions unhookable ;p |
| 22:11.42 | Kalman| | aestil: You asked what the differences were. Armory data is always available, but is not guaranteed accurate. TalentSpec data is (more or less) guaranteed accurate, but is not always available. |
| 22:11.44 | Kaelten | I won't ignore you Ellipsis |
| 22:11.48 | NeoTron | dodga: does default grid have a missing-buff type functionality or do you need some plugin to do it? |
| 22:11.49 | Ellipsis | o rly? |
| 22:11.59 | Antiarc | Xinhuan: They already are, at least in the traditional sense |
| 22:12.00 | mikma | Ellipsis: you're too cute to ignore |
| 22:12.00 | dodga | NeoTron: AFAIK "show if missing" is built in |
| 22:12.37 | AnduinLothar | Who wants to help a poor soul and simultaneously feed your desire for minimalism? http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=2043492376&postId=22152133524#33 |
| 22:12.37 | NeoTron | ok I'll check it out |
| 22:12.38 | aestil | i'm trying to understand the furor over this feature of rockcomm. i can't tell if its that people think it shouldn't be in rockcomm, or if people are paranoid aboiut there cookie cutter spec, or people are just being bitchy cause its fasionable right now. |
| 22:12.41 | dodga | But honestly, when we tried Kael'thas some weeks ago I added "Mental Protection Field" (the buff from the staff) and it was.. I dunno, not accurately showing up |
| 22:12.45 | NeoTron | I have been thinking about trying to swap to grid anyway |
| 22:12.48 | Xinhuan | by unhookable, i really mean that you can't hook them to replace/return different results |
| 22:12.59 | NeoTron | last I tried, a long time ago, it refused to move from the top/middle part of my screen :P |
| 22:13.01 | sylvanaar | its mostly other mod authors |
| 22:13.08 | Antiarc | Xinhuan: That's what protected functions are, basically |
| 22:13.09 | cryogen | aestil: the latter, mostly :) |
| 22:13.14 | Ellipsis | aestil: mostly the fashionable bitchiness |
| 22:13.17 | Antiarc | We still have secure posthooks, but those aren't true hooks |
| 22:13.21 | Xinhuan | Antiarc: those only affect combat |
| 22:13.24 | dodga | NeoTron: Grid is daunting at least, but once you're a bit comfortable with it you'll hate anything else :D |
| 22:13.33 | aestil | well, i'd like to jump on the fasionable bitchiness trend then. |
| 22:13.37 | Kalman| | aestil: The first. |
| 22:13.37 | dodga | Especially with some click-casting addon it's "teh ubar" as healer |
| 22:13.46 | cryogen | grid has a missing buff module |
| 22:13.50 | cryogen | to whoever was asking that |
| 22:13.50 | Kalman| | With some tinges of privacy/datasecurity issues. |
| 22:13.54 | aestil | AnduinLothar: UI looks 'ok' to me. |
| 22:13.56 | durcyn | aestil: apparently there's an unresonable expectation of privacy about a collection of electronic crap that people rent from blizzard. |
| 22:14.11 | Tekkub | privacy is moot, Armory |
| 22:14.21 | lprich | I want a mod that gives out my password, so someone can login and shard m purples. |
| 22:14.21 | Kalman| | Armory is not accurate. |
| 22:14.25 | sylvanaar | its just something to pick at |
| 22:14.27 | Tekkub | the hubbub is because people don't think it belongs in a core lib |
| 22:14.27 | CIA-12 | 03sayclub * r50966 10BigWigs/Karazhan/ (Maiden.lua Terestian.lua): |
| 22:14.27 | CIA-12 | .Karazhan : |
| 22:14.27 | CIA-12 | - Updated localization koKR |
| 22:14.27 | Ellipsis | wait, AnduinLothar, what does that screenshot have to do with minimalism? |
| 22:14.33 | Kalman| | It's not hard to obfuscate armory data. |
| 22:14.37 | AnduinLothar | read the post nub |
| 22:14.37 | Gngsk | AnduinLothar, holy crap |
| 22:14.47 | aestil | Tekkub: so, if it was a pitbull and cowtip module, you'd be ok with it? |
| 22:14.54 | Ellipsis | AnduinLothar: sorry, I can't read |
| 22:14.55 | Shadowed | of course |
| 22:14.58 | Antiarc | I've got an awesome minimalistic UI |
| 22:14.59 | Kalman| | aestil: I would, absolutely. |
| 22:15.01 | Shadowed | that'd be in a seperate addon, and you'd know about it |
| 22:15.06 | Antiarc | I just hit alt-z to toggle minimalism mode |
| 22:15.07 | Shadowed | thats difference from being forced to have it because it's in a library |
| 22:15.15 | Ellipsis | Antiarc wins the thread \o/ |
| 22:15.20 | Tekkub | it belongs in something designed to do exactly that, not in every addon that happens to use the lib |
| 22:15.20 | NeoTron | I use clique but am a lock |
| 22:15.20 | cryogen | Kalman|, aestil: this has been done to death the last 48 hours |
| 22:15.22 | aestil | ok, well, that is fine then, i mean, i don't care, but at least i can sorta see that argument. |
| 22:15.25 | cryogen | can we not do it again? |
| 22:15.28 | NeoTron | so I only use it for raid status (being a raid leader) |
| 22:15.36 | Antiarc | cryogen: The horse twitched! Beat it! Beat it! |
| 22:15.36 | Kalman| | cryogen: I can do it politely. Can you? |
| 22:15.42 | NeoTron | although on my pally it would be nice too |
| 22:15.49 | Tekkub | it's like putting a raid durability check in a lib used by a buff timer addon |
| 22:15.54 | cryogen | Kalman|: if something new crops up, i will do my best |
| 22:15.57 | AnduinLothar | i use clique too lol |
| 22:15.59 | aestil | Tekkub: yeah, i see what you're saying, i just happen to feel like it doesn't matter. |
| 22:16.00 | AnduinLothar | but not exclusively |
| 22:16.16 | AnduinLothar | i just have Fol and HolyLight bound |
| 22:16.22 | Antiarc | Man, PHP needs ruby-style block/tield. |
| 22:16.24 | Antiarc | yield* |
| 22:16.26 | aestil | i think its there just becasue it convienetly uses rockComm anyways. no dobut, the module woudl use the lib. |
| 22:16.27 | Tekkub | you don't, sure, but the authors that would use the lib don't want that unnneded "stuff" in their addon |
| 22:16.51 | Shadowed | convience should never be the reason why you put something in a library that you want others to use |
| 22:16.58 | Tekkub | that's what the whole Ace2/Ace3/Rock thing is all about, unneeded "stuff" in core libs |
| 22:17.15 | sylvanaar | i dont think it matters either, its most useful when it is ubiquitiously available |
| 22:17.20 | aestil | Tekkub: *nods* like i said, although i don't care, i see the argument being made. prior to this, its felt like the argument was mostly about people whining that they didn't want other to see their talents, which just seems like bullshit to me. |
| 22:17.22 | m4rku5 | then lets make Ace4 without unneeded stuff ;) |
| 22:17.24 | RogueShadow | Anybody used BindPad or something similar to bind your spells/items to keys without an actionbar? I'm a hotkey person myself, so I don't need them on a bar, just hotkeyed... |
| 22:17.24 | Xinhuan | "unneeded" is in the eye of the beholder. |
| 22:17.31 | Shadowed | not really |
| 22:17.33 | hyperChipmunk | no |
| 22:17.36 | Shadowed | talent info is a pretty narrow field of need |
| 22:17.44 | Ellipsis | nobody here cares if you see their talents |
| 22:17.47 | Shadowed | if you really wanted it to be a library that badly, make it seperate and include it in PitBull/Parrot |
| 22:17.47 | hyperChipmunk | the rule is, "if you're not sure if it is needed or not, it isn't" |
| 22:17.50 | Ellipsis | most people heere think it should be in the API |
| 22:17.51 | Tekkub | yea, privacy whiners can go fuck themselves and grind for their [Tin Foil Hat] :) |
| 22:17.52 | aestil | RogueShadow: spellbinder also works. |
| 22:17.52 | Shadowed | hyperChipmunk wins |
| 22:17.52 | sylvanaar | good, dont put it in ace3 |
| 22:18.05 | RogueShadow | ah |
| 22:18.07 | ckknight | I think it is needed |
| 22:18.07 | Shadowed | last i heard they aren't |
| 22:18.08 | Kalman| | I ground that out years ago, Tekk. :p |
| 22:18.09 | Kaelten | Ellipsis: what are your talents? |
| 22:18.10 | Shadowed | and if they did, i'd disable it =p |
| 22:18.12 | aestil | Ellipsis: i requested it be in the API |
| 22:18.14 | RogueShadow | Information is power |
| 22:18.18 | aestil | to blizzard. |
| 22:18.21 | RogueShadow | You would wanna know if your putting together a group |
| 22:18.24 | Ellipsis | Kaelten: 43/0/18 ;) |
| 22:18.30 | cryogen | a lot of people complainign about it dont even *use* it, they're just complaining for the sake of complaining |
| 22:18.35 | Shadowed | I asked blizzard to give me an API for candy |
| 22:18.38 | Shadowed | but i don't think they'll add it |
| 22:18.43 | m4rku5 | ckknight, now that comment made me LMFAO people need a _CORE_ lib to prodive their specc to others ... lol |
| 22:18.45 | hyperChipmunk | if it was so needed, everyone will download your standalone BroadcastMySpec addon |
| 22:18.56 | cryogen | my only complaint is ckknight could have gone about it slightly better, but im fine with it being there |
| 22:18.58 | hyperChipmunk | and then bliz will add it because it's so popular |
| 22:19.01 | Industrial | Ellipsis: what are your _talents_ ? |
| 22:19.04 | ckknight | m4rku5: it's in the core lib because it creates a network effect |
| 22:19.10 | Shadowed | Ellipsis what are your talents |
| 22:19.13 | Ellipsis | !c us cenarius Ellipsis |
| 22:19.14 | Shadowed | Ellipsis what are your talents |
| 22:19.14 | Shadowed | Ellipsis what are your talents |
| 22:19.18 | Shadowed | WHAT ARE THEY NOW |
| 22:19.21 | Ellipsis | amg wat |
| 22:19.21 | miica | 0/0/0 |
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| 22:19.26 | Ellipsis | I can't link my armory profile |
| 22:19.29 | miica | 41/41/41 |
| 22:19.31 | mikma | I HAS NO TALENTS |
| 22:19.34 | hyperChipmunk | i need a network effect of everyone giving me their gold |
| 22:19.36 | *** kick/#wowace [Shadowed!n=ckknight@rrcs-74-62-251-185.west.biz.rr.com] by ckknight (spam) |
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| 22:19.37 | Industrial | whats talents? |
| 22:19.40 | hyperChipmunk | i should put it into bulkmail |
| 22:19.46 | Gngsk | we can't all be as leet as teza |
| 22:19.48 | NightHawkAtWork | Shadowed: you know, instead of disabling the talent stuff, you should have had it send false info. :P |
| 22:19.53 | Xinhuan | maybe people will cry less if the talent share thing is moved out of RockComm into Pitbull |
| 22:19.53 | hyperChipmunk | it's not really useful unless everyone's giving me gold |
| 22:20.02 | sylvanaar | you arent making a valid comparison |
| 22:20.03 | Shadowed | NightHawkTheSane that'd be a bit more assholish =p |
| 22:20.08 | ckknight | Xinhuan: but then it creates less of a network effect |
| 22:20.08 | Fin | you know what Bulkmail needs, is a report in the chat log on mail sent and mail opened+deleted |
| 22:20.10 | Shadowed | and it's harder to do that with the sanity checks, easier to just unregister it |
| 22:20.18 | hyperChipmunk | sure i am |
| 22:20.23 | NightHawkAtWork | Shadowed: true. i suppose laziness prevails. |
| 22:20.26 | Shadowed | Unless you made it send like 69/69/69 |
| 22:20.27 | Mudkipz | Postal is superior |
| 22:20.33 | Kalman| | I need to inspect what other people's whispers are. I should stick that in a core lib. |
| 22:20.38 | Industrial | Xinhuan: i'd cry less if it was moved into an EXTERNAL pibull module so noone but the ones that really care would have that kind of crap (to me it is) |
| 22:20.40 | hyperChipmunk | die in fire |
| 22:20.41 | Shadowed | Kalman| i like that idea |
| 22:20.56 | Xinhuan | ckknight: that's what others are arguing about - that you put a feature into a library that isn't really needed |
| 22:21.06 | ckknight | I think it's needed |
| 22:21.09 | hyperChipmunk | well, the real comparison would be putting it into ace lib, you're right |
| 22:21.13 | hyperChipmunk | ok, screw bulkmail |
| 22:21.14 | Kalman| | Why is it needed? |
| 22:21.26 | NightHawkAtWork | wait, what, why screw bulkmail? |
| 22:21.27 | hyperChipmunk | i'm inserting the send-myn-gold code right into ace |
| 22:21.28 | Fin | I keep opening all my mail an only later realising that I might've deleted something from someone other than my alts, but I can't tell if anyone had actually sent me anything for sure; and I keep sending things to my alts automatically using Bulkmail's niftifeatures, but then I can't tell exactly what was sent without relogging |
| 22:21.36 | NeoTron | bulkmail is hawt |
| 22:21.38 | NightHawkAtWork | hyperChipmunk: lol |
| 22:21.39 | Arrowmaster | how else would you push useful features onto the uneducated masses? |
| 22:21.48 | hyperChipmunk | for maximum network effect |
| 22:21.53 | Arrowmaster | i use the ace2 version query all the time |
| 22:21.56 | hyperChipmunk | and more $$ |
| 22:22.14 | NeoTron | Fin: speaking of that, it would be really nice with a "mail history" |
| 22:22.23 | NeoTron | I've sometimes sent valuable items to other the wrong person |
| 22:22.26 | Fin | yeah but hey, one thing at a time |
| 22:22.26 | ckknight | network effect doesn't work that way, hyperChipmunk |
| 22:22.27 | Xinhuan | there are many addons that do Mail Tracking |
| 22:22.32 | m4rku5 | well guys i really do dislike the idea of putting {specc,gold,addons,fav.pornsites}broadcast into any _LIBRARY_ but keep the discussion objective please |
| 22:22.33 | hyperChipmunk | yes it does |
| 22:22.34 | NeoTron | a guildy typically but still |
| 22:22.37 | miica | i wanna addon that always somebody send mail it also send 1g to me |
| 22:22.45 | miica | always when* |
| 22:22.47 | CIA-12 | 03prudence * r50967 10Assessment/ (Assessment.lua Modules/Damage.lua Modules/Healing.lua): |
| 22:22.47 | CIA-12 | Assessment: |
| 22:22.47 | CIA-12 | - Update french translation |
| 22:22.51 | Kemayo | hyperChipmunk: I'd like it if bulkmail let me hide buttons on the minimap. Can you do that, plz? |
| 22:23.01 | Shadowed | builkmail should send me a copy of the mail |
| 22:23.04 | Shadowed | get on it hyperChipmunk |
| 22:23.15 | Fin | there needs to be a prat module for bulkmail! |
| 22:23.16 | hyperChipmunk | more people giving meh money so i can continue to provide jacked up prices for commodities by cornering the AH |
| 22:23.19 | Shadowed | lol |
| 22:23.21 | Fin | maybe I shall write one |
| 22:23.28 | miica | we got chronometer dev here? |
| 22:23.34 | sylvanaar | dont feed the prat trolls fin |
| 22:23.39 | hyperChipmunk | if i don't have money, i can't supply them with my quality merchandise |
| 22:23.41 | m4rku5 | well guys have fun discussing all this lol ;) good nite |
| 22:23.44 | Fin | aw, but they look so hungry |
| 22:23.46 | Arrowmaster | chronometer has no dev |
| 22:23.56 | hyperChipmunk | it's a service, because when i have lots of cash, then everybody's stuff gets bought |
| 22:23.56 | CIA-12 | 03sayclub * r50968 10BigWigs/Hyjal/HyjalSummit.lua: |
| 22:23.56 | CIA-12 | .Hyjal : |
| 22:23.56 | CIA-12 | - Added localization koKR |
| 22:24.14 | miica | Arrowmaster: ok.. |
| 22:24.17 | Xinhuan | so who remembers back in closed beta, where Cosmos Lead Developer Alexander put in code that modified the words that float above people's head (name/guild) and added a "DO NOT PARTY" for someone he didn't like? :) |
| 22:24.27 | hyperChipmunk | ...and then resold at slightly marked-up value |
| 22:24.28 | Keirathi | i do |
| 22:24.32 | Keirathi | that was awesome |
| 22:24.42 | miica | Arrowmaster: would be coll if chrometer would have feature that it would show old your target dots |
| 22:24.47 | miica | xool |
| 22:24.50 | Fin | I remember when two guys bought out the entire auction house on a server once |
| 22:24.56 | Fin | and put everything back up at 4x the original price |
| 22:24.58 | Fin | everything |
| 22:25.02 | Kaelten | Xinhuan, I liked the old autocombat addon that would start fucking with you if you stayed in town too long |
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| 22:25.08 | Industrial | Xinhuan: if you bring that out to compare to this case - I guess that means that you also find that this is quite retarded. |
| 22:25.09 | Arrowmaster | miica: chronometer has no dev, the feature will not be added |
| 22:25.14 | Xinhuan | i do |
| 22:25.16 | Fin | capitalism at its finest |
| 22:25.20 | miica | Arrowmaster: :(( |
| 22:25.24 | miica | Arrowmaster: add it! |
| 22:25.32 | miica | Arrowmaster: why there isnt dev |
| 22:25.38 | Arrowmaster | because its abandoned |
| 22:25.38 | Kalman| | Still waiting to hear why talent broadcast is needed. There's nothing that you do with PUGs where spec makes more difference than a decent player, and anything you aren't pugging, why don't you already know their spec? |
| 22:25.41 | Antiarc | Xinhuan: I remember that. Was called Corruption. |
| 22:25.46 | Industrial | ckknight: code me a DO NOT PARTY tag to players pelase |
| 22:25.48 | Industrial | ckknight: it is needed |
| 22:25.48 | Xinhuan | indeed Antiarc |
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| 22:25.51 | miica | Arrowmaster: is there new and better then? |
| 22:26.08 | Xinhuan | Alex now works in Blizzard as a boss encounter designer ;p |
| 22:26.16 | Arrowmaster | theres a few different addons out that do simmiliar |
| 22:26.21 | Fin | you know what? I love it at the end of foreign or pretentious films, it's great, they always say "Fin" |
| 22:26.21 | hyperChipmunk | i still use chronometer O_o |
| 22:26.28 | Fin | and I'm like "yeah?" |
| 22:26.30 | Industrial | Fin: lol |
| 22:26.34 | miica | Arrowmaster: but i like only ace2 :< |
| 22:26.34 | Arrowmaster | hyperChipmunk: me too |
| 22:26.46 | Arrowmaster | ~lart miica |
| 22:26.46 | purl | drops a truckload of VAXen on miica |
| 22:26.49 | Kalman| | Fin: How do you feel about the metal band Fintroll? :P |
| 22:26.51 | Industrial | miica: go away. |
| 22:26.52 | cryogen | pfft i need to stop reading this channel |
| 22:26.52 | aestil | Industrial: how would that work, i think it'd be pretty good dogtag [ShittyPlayer=Aestil] and it shows up as SHITTTY PALAAYER instead of me being in a guild? |
| 22:26.54 | Pkekyo | anyone know what port mstsc originally uses? |
| 22:26.56 | cryogen | i just went all the way west on the map |
| 22:26.57 | Fin | I always giggle to myself and then have to say that it doesn't matter to the people I'm with |
| 22:27.01 | cryogen | when i wanted to go all the way east |
| 22:27.16 | Fin | Kalman|: I have a long list of people who will be simultaneously first up against the wall once I become supreme emperor |
| 22:27.17 | Tinyboom | can't configure my addons: http://ace.pastey.net/74851 rockconfig.... |
| 22:27.24 | Industrial | aestil: oh we cant say anything about that I mean, hell re-do it how he likes anyway. |
| 22:28.14 | Kalman| | Fin: Assuming I'm not on it... can I help? |
| 22:28.23 | miica | Arrowmaster: i even got ace2 text in my UI :/ |
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| 22:29.25 | durcyn | Industrial: what, so after writing all this code he has to submit it for your stamp of approval? |
| 22:29.34 | durcyn | jesus, people here sure are presumpuous |
| 22:29.45 | durcyn | presumptuous too, also! |
| 22:29.50 | Industrial | they should make a framework named "urmom". Everyone could go all fanboish "urmom is the best" "dude what" "yeah it rocks" "it?" ? |
| 22:29.57 | Kemayo | Blizzard's floating combat text sticks damage done over the heads of the thing you did it to... but that's Blizz Magic, and can't be accessed by the rest of us, right? |
| 22:30.03 | Fin | Kalman|: please don't take this personally, but everyone will be commanded to kneel before my almighty presence once I ascend, so it may be difficult. can you kill people from that height? |
| 22:30.13 | Industrial | durcyn: he can do as he likes, but ill comment on any addon as I like |
| 22:30.20 | Industrial | durcyn: giving it my stamp |
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| 22:30.46 | aestil | Industrial: isn't the reality that you didn't like and wouldn't like rock, if he took it out? |
| 22:30.48 | NightHawkAtWork | Kemayo: i think you can inject text into it to display, but i'm not sure |
| 22:30.49 | Fin | enough! now, I shall launch the game. goodbye. |
| 22:31.10 | miica | when we get ace3 addons :) |
| 22:31.14 | aestil | Industrial: i mean, thats fine, no one wants you to love any addons which you have to morally reject. |
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| 22:31.34 | Industrial | aestil: I'd like it better. |
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| 22:32.00 | Fin | very moral person, is our Indy |
| 22:32.08 | aestil | Industrial: i got the feeling, that you've pretty much always had your face set against it. |
| 22:32.12 | sag_ich_nicht | Antiarc: managed to reproduce anything yet? |
| 22:32.14 | Industrial | serious industrial is serious. |
| 22:32.26 | Fin | amen to that |
| 22:32.49 | Fin | behold: the game is launched! now, I play. |
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| 22:33.00 | Industrial | \o/ _o_ \o/ _o_ |
| 22:33.14 | Industrial | aestil: Yes I have, and will in the future - but that's because its structually not what I like. |
| 22:33.32 | Industrial | aestil: I can give reasons why I don't like it - but all ck comes up with is "I tink its needed" |
| 22:33.39 | Industrial | think* |
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| 22:33.49 | ckknight | I've given plenty of reasons previously why it's useful |
| 22:34.00 | Maytrix | hello everyone |
| 22:34.04 | NightHawkAtWork | .. useful != needed. |
| 22:34.11 | ckknight | and it really seems to me that most people congratulate me on it, it's just the self-righteous elite that thinks it's bad |
| 22:34.19 | ckknight | sorry, useful = needed |
| 22:34.24 | Industrial | ckknight: its functionality that belongs to a different addon. not in a library. |
| 22:34.40 | Tuller | ckknight: Write a library that implements it. Stick it in a good addon. People will use it, yay! |
| 22:34.45 | Tuller | right now you're relying on the stupidity of users |
| 22:34.47 | ckknight | but with it in the library, it creates a larger network effect |
| 22:34.49 | hyperChipmunk | if it was needed, it wouldn't need to be hidden in a library |
| 22:34.59 | hyperChipmunk | because everyone would download it and you'd get the effect |
| 22:35.02 | mikma | haha |
| 22:35.03 | Industrial | ckknight: congrats, but I'd rip it out If i'd use rock. |
| 22:35.05 | aestil | Tuller: i actually think thats a good way to get it out there, most users are stupid. |
| 22:35.08 | ckknight | Tuller's right, I'm relying on the stupidity of users |
| 22:35.09 | mikma | that was funny |
| 22:35.17 | ckknight | Industrial: you can disable it with a click of a button. |
| 22:35.32 | aestil | Tuller: purely based on my experience as 'mod guy' for my guild. |
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| 22:35.41 | aestil | Tuller: people are ass backwards stupid when it comes to this stuff. |
| 22:35.42 | hyperChipmunk | the whole point is that if it truly were so necessary, then it wouldn't need to be in a library |
| 22:35.53 | Shadowed | kind of like LOOT_OPENED |
| 22:35.54 | NightHawkAtWork | hyperChipmunk: alternately, if it was needed, there would be serious usabilty issues if it did not exist. but it more or less amounts to the same :P |
| 22:35.59 | aestil | hyperChipmunk: you're right, it should be in the API |
| 22:36.02 | Shadowed | useful because it gets around needing an entire guild to install the mod |
| 22:36.02 | Industrial | ckknight: so you admit its not a good decision in the quality of the addon. This alone is reason enough for me to be a critic. |
| 22:36.04 | hyperChipmunk | since you think it does need to be in a library, then you're admitting exactly that not everyone wants it |
| 22:36.08 | Shadowed | and still incredibly stupid because it should be a seperate addon/library |
| 22:36.17 | ckknight | Industrial: I have never admitted that. |
| 22:36.21 | Industrial | aestil: I want blueberry-waffle-machine-machines in the API |
| 22:36.22 | ckknight | don't put words into my mouth. |
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| 22:36.33 | Tuller | aestil: I have no doubt that sticking it in the core libraries will get it used. It was a good model for spyware, after all :) |
| 22:36.44 | aestil | Industrial: *boggle* is that an option that I could have been requesting from blizzard? |
| 22:36.56 | Industrial | aestil: maybe ck will code it for you |
| 22:36.57 | aestil | Industrial: i think i'd prefer belgain waffles with icecream though? |
| 22:37.17 | NightHawkAtWork | aestil: you should have been, I've got the special blueberry-waffle-machine build of wow on my comp. |
| 22:37.19 | sylvanaar | it needs to be in the game |
| 22:37.27 | aestil | NightHawkAtWork: FREAKING HELL |
| 22:37.29 | Tuller | ooooh, we can call it the ckk_toolbar :) |
| 22:37.32 | sylvanaar | its why the LFG system fails |
| 22:37.47 | aestil | sylvanaar: yeah, i really wish it was part of the LFG system |
| 22:37.51 | NightHawkAtWork | sylvanaar: arguably, but I think the fundamental issue there is fairly separate. :P |
| 22:37.52 | Industrial | ckknight: how is relying on the stupidity of the users (i.e. hiding things from them) good for any addon code wise? |
| 22:38.06 | Tuller | and you can stick it in cartographer + pitbull + <guild required addons> packages |
| 22:38.08 | aestil | Tuller: you're right, except that this 'spyware' is not malicous, so its only a somewhat good analogy. |
| 22:38.13 | Industrial | ckknight: and you have said this befre; you do it for the fame. |
| 22:38.15 | sylvanaar | i dont care about ideals, i want the funcationality |
| 22:38.27 | NightHawkAtWork | aestil: malicious is reasonably subjective |
| 22:38.33 | ckknight | Industrial: I do it for a lot of reasons, one being that I like appreciation from users, which could be considered fame |
| 22:38.39 | RogueShadow | ok, I better figure this svn thing, as wau doesn't wanna work for me. |
| 22:38.41 | Xinhuan | i don't think definition of spyware cares if the intent is malicious or not :) |
| 22:38.46 | aestil | Industrial: i think its not totally hidden, if you click on the little screw icon when you first install a rock mod, you can hide the screw, and disable version and talent queries. |
| 22:38.47 | Tuller | sylvanaar: Correct me if I'm wrong, but were you arguing a few days ago that you did not want yur info on the armory? |
| 22:38.49 | Industrial | I'm not denying you the functionality sylvanaar, I'm just pointing out the implementation isn't nice (sucks, plainly) |
| 22:38.55 | Shadowed | E FAME IS SERIOUS BUSINESS |
| 22:38.56 | Shadowed | er |
| 22:38.57 | Shadowed | minus caps |
| 22:39.02 | ckknight | I'm more of a pragmatist in thinking that making things easier in some occasions (talent sharing) is better than making the code pure in an idealistic utopia |
| 22:39.03 | Tuller | sylvanaar: I really don't mean any harm by the comment, since i know it came off as rude |
| 22:39.03 | sylvanaar | right, but since it is, i want it in the game |
| 22:39.04 | NightHawkAtWork | sylvanaar: so, you'd be okay with a blizzard implementation that provided talent specs of people at the cost of sending all your saved passwords and personal information to blizzard? |
| 22:39.07 | CIA-12 | 03pettigrow * r50969 10BigWigs/ (3 files in 3 dirs): BigWigs: frFR Update |
| 22:39.31 | aestil | NightHawkAtWork: wtf? |
| 22:39.37 | Tuller | ckknight: the obvious thing to do is to stick it in an addon that can be packaged with other popular things then |
| 22:39.37 | ckknight | NightHawkAtWork: I don't get it |
| 22:39.50 | ckknight | Tuller: but it's in LibRockComm-1.0, that's packaged with a whole bunch of stuff |
| 22:39.51 | Xinhuan | Blizzard already sends heaps of "non-personal" information |
| 22:39.55 | Xinhuan | about your computer |
| 22:40.00 | Xinhuan | to their server |
| 22:40.01 | sylvanaar | ok, stop comparing sharing of private info to talent |
| 22:40.10 | Xinhuan | and you agreed to it by TOS/EULA too :) |
| 22:40.10 | sylvanaar | because that infor isnt privat |
| 22:40.26 | Xinhuan | the definition of what is considered private is relevant here |
| 22:40.26 | sylvanaar | warden looks through all your shit |
| 22:40.28 | NightHawkAtWork | Xinhuan: meh, bad example probably, but whatever. |
| 22:40.31 | Xinhuan | is your talent spec Private? |
| 22:40.36 | sylvanaar | no |
| 22:40.40 | sylvanaar | it is not private |
| 22:40.44 | Tuller | sure it is. I don't want to get kicked out of my guild for being say feral druid :) |
| 22:40.52 | NightHawkAtWork | the point is, ideals are the ONLY thing that matters, if you don't have ethics and ideals, then you open yourself up to all sorts of idiotic possibilites |
| 22:40.58 | Xinhuan | then you'll be a liar tuller :) |
| 22:40.59 | sylvanaar | armory makes it public |
| 22:41.08 | Maytrix | I would personally like the option to make it private against the armory |
| 22:41.15 | Maytrix | I am not a fan of the armory |
| 22:41.23 | Industrial | ckknight: what more to say... You admitted that your code sucks. Congratulations. |
| 22:41.26 | Tuller | ckknight: that's framework dependent, then :) |
| 22:41.51 | Xinhuan | the armory is up to date to your last logout |
| 22:41.52 | ckknight | Industrial: I never did that, stop putting words into my mouth. |
| 22:41.55 | sylvanaar | yeah - but since i cant control its publication in any way, then i should have easy access to it |
| 22:42.15 | Xinhuan | the armory even lists your last logout date/time |
| 22:42.27 | Industrial | "is better than making the code pure in an idealistic utopia" in other words (!) it is not as good as it would be if I would spend more time and effort on doing things right. |
| 22:42.29 | Maytrix | yeas it gives way to much data |
| 22:42.32 | sylvanaar | all your rep levels |
| 22:42.34 | NightHawkAtWork | you can, actually, control what info is published to the armory |
| 22:42.36 | Xinhuan | i use it as a way to check when the last login of a person is lol |
| 22:42.55 | ckknight | Industrial: no, I think that the idealism is impossible to achieve |
| 22:43.04 | NightHawkAtWork | .... |
| 22:43.05 | Tuller | ckknight: it just seems like a lazy hack. |
| 22:43.15 | NightHawkAtWork | ckknight: no, idealism isn;'t impossible, the ideals themselves are |
| 22:43.23 | NightHawkAtWork | which is more or less the point of idealism in general |
| 22:43.25 | ckknight | you're right, NightHawkAtWork |
| 22:43.34 | NightHawkAtWork | to strive for something so impossible as to make yourself and your products better as a result. |
| 22:43.48 | Tuller | ckknight: but I do see your argument |
| 22:44.04 | sylvanaar | software is written by pragmatists |
| 22:44.06 | ckknight | the network effect is important, and no one has supplied me with a better way to achieve the network effect. |
| 22:44.13 | NightHawkAtWork | sylvanaar: that's not true. |
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| 22:44.39 | sylvanaar | not my problem |
| 22:44.39 | Industrial | ckknight: make it a different addon. |
| 22:44.56 | ckknight | Industrial: network effect diminishes in that case |
| 22:45.06 | Industrial | ckknight: and anyone that will care will use it. |
| 22:45.26 | sylvanaar | idealists wrote netscape 5 |
| 22:45.30 | Industrial | ckknight: what can we learn from this? The majority doesn't even use it anyway. |
| 22:46.00 | Industrial | sylvanaar: idealists continue to write open source software right now |
| 22:46.09 | Industrial | sylvanaar: GOOD open source software. |
| 22:46.13 | Xinhuan | time to fire off requests to unitframe authors to check for RockComm presence to show talent specs of your party/raid lol! |
| 22:46.25 | CIA-12 | 03ckknight * r50970 10LibRock-1.0/LibRock-1.0.lua: LibRock-1.0 - add in checks |
| 22:46.25 | CIA-12 | 03sayclub * r50971 10LibRockConfig-1.0/LibRockConfig-1.0.lua: |
| 22:46.25 | CIA-12 | LibRockConfig-1.0: |
| 22:46.25 | CIA-12 | - Updated localization koKR |
| 22:46.29 | mikma | idealist wrote linux :( |
| 22:46.29 | Xinhuan | and see how the world respond |
| 22:46.52 | ckknight | mikma: um, no, Torvalds didn't strive for idealism |
| 22:47.04 | ckknight | he just wanted something that worked on his 386 |
| 22:47.05 | NightHawkAtWork | ckknight: not to ignore the vast networking benefits of it, but do you feel that it's ethically right to have the user's information broadcast like that without their knowing about it? |
| 22:47.08 | ckknight | at least for 0.0.1 |
| 22:47.19 | sylvanaar | ora2 |
| 22:47.21 | ckknight | NightHawkAtWork: yes, seeing as it's available in Armory anyway. |
| 22:47.32 | ckknight | also, addons such as ora2 do this already |
| 22:47.41 | sylvanaar | broadcasts all sorts of stuff that is actually private |
| 22:47.52 | sylvanaar | and it goes out quite siliently |
| 22:47.52 | RogueShadow | :) I could get used to this svn thing |
| 22:47.55 | Industrial | so you should do it too? |
| 22:48.08 | NightHawkAtWork | sylvanaar: and i'm not a huge fan of that, to be honest. :P |
| 22:48.35 | Affen_Uzglug | *cough* opt-in *cough* |
| 22:48.47 | ckknight | opt-in reduces the network effect immensely. |
| 22:48.49 | Industrial | *cough* spyware *cough* |
| 22:49.08 | ckknight | *shrug* I guess it is spying on you, never denied that |
| 22:49.10 | Keirathi | I understand both sides of the arguement, but if you're not trying to hide anything it shouldnt matter anyways |
| 22:49.16 | Xinhuan | can you define "network effect" and why it is needed? |
| 22:49.16 | NightHawkAtWork | ckknight: there'a non-negligable difference between in-game real-time data and the armory, for one thing, and that's even ignoring the choice a user may take to mask their talents from the armory. |
| 22:49.23 | ckknight | ~wiki network effect |
| 22:49.25 | Industrial | Keirathi: I dont even want that code loaded. ever. |
| 22:49.46 | hyperChipmunk | who decides that this is a service? |
| 22:49.58 | sylvanaar | who cares |
| 22:49.58 | Industrial | ckknight: achieve that by delivering a good service, not just shoving it in everyones face. |
| 22:50.04 | Maytrix | so is there documented ways to block your data from the armory? |
| 22:50.05 | sylvanaar | its freaking useful |
| 22:50.12 | ckknight | it is very useful |
| 22:50.13 | hyperChipmunk | so's sending me gold |
| 22:50.23 | ckknight | no, that's only useful to one person |
| 22:50.23 | hyperChipmunk | as defined by me |
| 22:50.28 | NightHawkAtWork | sylvanaar: people with the least bit of ethical concious care. obviously you're not one of them |
| 22:50.29 | ckknight | this is useful to nearly everyone. |
| 22:50.36 | Industrial | as defined by you |
| 22:50.38 | NightHawkAtWork | i mangled that word. |
| 22:50.38 | hyperChipmunk | no, i'll give cookies to all the gnomes with the money |
| 22:50.42 | Keirathi | If there was a way to update in-game variables without exiting game, people would have been writing armory parsing mods from basically the day it came out |
| 22:50.42 | NightHawkAtWork | "conscience" |
| 22:50.45 | NightHawkAtWork | i think |
| 22:50.50 | Keirathi | so he found a way around it |
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| 22:51.01 | ckknight | I don't see why this is an ethical issue at all, seeing as armory supplies the data already, this is just an easier way to get at it |
| 22:51.14 | sylvanaar | NightHawkAtWorkd your indignant attitude doensnt make you ethical |
| 22:51.23 | miica | "your rock has been tainted"? |
| 22:51.34 | miica | cartographer says so |
| 22:51.34 | Industrial | ckknight: so make an "ingame armory" addon with lots more sharing then talent spec |
| 22:51.39 | NightHawkAtWork | ckknight: the ethical issue isn't really related directly to talents, it's the fact that it was put in something like a CORE library that is unavoidable by users of a large set of addons |
| 22:51.40 | Industrial | ckknight: people would love it anyway |
| 22:51.49 | Keirathi | if the information wasnt available already, thats something different, but anyone can tab out and take 2 seconds to look someone up...this just makes it more efficient (although i'll admit i dont know everything the code ckknight wrote is capable of doing) |
| 22:51.49 | NeoTron | I am curious though, what is the purpose of knowing talent specs? Any specific use case where it's nice to have? |
| 22:51.56 | Industrial | ckknight: the point is that this does not belong in code where everything else bases on. |
| 22:51.57 | ckknight | NightHawkAtWork: because of the network effect |
| 22:52.02 | NightHawkAtWork | for a user to choose not to have that functionality, they limit themselves from any of the addons that use that core library |
| 22:52.09 | Industrial | s/where/that/ |
| 22:52.20 | ckknight | you're free not to use Rock or any of my addons. |
| 22:52.25 | ckknight | nobody's forcing you |
| 22:52.32 | Industrial | yup |
| 22:52.33 | NightHawkAtWork | that's just idiotically dodging the issue |
| 22:52.39 | ckknight | NeoTron: PUGs |
| 22:52.49 | hyperChipmunk | because you're making efforts to hide it; the very least possible allowance could be made if when the first time a rock addon is started, you get a big popup that says you want to participate in talent-sharing network, and assures the user that should they decide not to, that it will not limit their addons in any way, including the ability to see the talents of others who agree to have it broadcast |
| 22:52.50 | ckknight | NeoTron: knowing what people are in BGs |
| 22:53.09 | CIA-12 | 03shadowed * r50972 10Scrooge/Scrooge.lua: Scrooge: Updated to bypass LibRock-1.0 sanity check |
| 22:53.21 | sylvanaar | oh please |
| 22:53.23 | hyperChipmunk | s/says you/asks you if/ |
| 22:53.27 | NightHawkAtWork | In fact, that's more or less the crux of the difference between oRA and Anything that uses rock, oRA is an addon that serves a specific purpose |
| 22:53.28 | sylvanaar | put the popup in ora2 |
| 22:53.40 | hyperChipmunk | ora implies a trusted group |
| 22:53.41 | Industrial | sylvanaar: rock now, ora2 later |
| 22:53.43 | NightHawkAtWork | ROck is just a library that any number of VASTLY UNRELATED addons use. |
| 22:53.45 | sylvanaar | hardly |
| 22:53.49 | hyperChipmunk | every yokel on the server is not |
| 22:54.02 | NeoTron | NightHawkAtWork: that is both the benefit and the problem isn't it? |
| 22:54.07 | NightHawkAtWork | NeoTron: indeed. |
| 22:54.18 | NeoTron | I myself could care less |
| 22:54.24 | NightHawkAtWork | Why should FuBar be broadcasting talents? Why should Cartographer? |
| 22:54.31 | sylvanaar | i want to see you point fingers somewhere else |
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| 22:54.53 | sylvanaar | so its clear that you arent on a personl vendetta |
| 22:54.59 | hyperChipmunk | in fact, if you put it that way, most people would say, "ok sure, it's for the common good" and click Okay |
| 22:54.59 | Industrial | I'm not |
| 22:55.01 | NeoTron | and in fact it'd be nice to have a "ability monitor" addon that can show who in the raid have certain talents such as Malediction and Shadow Embrace |
| 22:55.11 | miica | and if i take newest cartographrt my loading screen stacks :D |
| 22:55.13 | hyperChipmunk | the point is that they make the decision, not you |
| 22:55.14 | NightHawkAtWork | NeoTron: that would actually be pretty hot. |
| 22:55.18 | miica | and wow crash :DD |
| 22:55.25 | sb | eh wtf |
| 22:55.39 | Industrial | sylvanaar: I don't use ora2 either, but I find the fact that its in rock much more disturbing then that its in ora2 |
| 22:55.43 | NeoTron | and to be truly honest, I could care less if ppl know my talents. not like they are secret |
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| 22:55.51 | sylvanaar | Industrial i dont care |
| 22:55.57 | NeoTron | I think it should be clearly labeled and at least be opt-out |
| 22:56.05 | CIA-12 | 03ckknight * r50973 10LibRock-1.0/LibRock-1.0.lua: LibRock-1.0 - make the scrooge check more intelligent. |
| 22:56.06 | MIK3M4N | can someone help me with how to manually input waypoints into cartographer plz |
| 22:56.08 | NeoTron | opt-in is probably a bad idea |
| 22:56.10 | Industrial | sylvanaar: so go somewhere else instead of trying to make me stop talking about rock |
| 22:56.14 | dodga | Hm, is it normal that WAU redownloads the index all the time when I update via F10? :> |
| 22:56.15 | ckknight | NightHawkAtWork: FuBar doesn't broadcast events. |
| 22:56.24 | Industrial | sylvanaar: see? its the same approach. doesnt work. |
| 22:56.31 | RogueShadow | I think wow should send emails to everybody and ask if they will allow them to list thier character specs on the Armory, that totally reeks of privacy invasion.... |
| 22:56.37 | NeoTron | ckknight, Shadowed: IMHO you should stop this epeen crap and just remove any code related to the other addon and be done with it |
| 22:56.49 | sb | ckknight, Shadowed - WTF? :p |
| 22:56.50 | ckknight | NeoTron: I'd be more than happy to. |
| 22:56.55 | aestil | Industrial: the question I'm asking, is that since you're NEVER gonna use rock anyways, why do you care? |
| 22:57.08 | Shadowed | I already told him |
| 22:57.08 | hyperChipmunk | he cares because he's a part of the community that supports it |
| 22:57.10 | ckknight | NeoTron: as soon as Scrooge stops tampering with Rock and any donation stuff, I'll remove all checking code. |
| 22:57.12 | NightHawkAtWork | ckknight: Yeah, It'd probably only bee in addons that use LibRockComm, yeah? So I was probably being mostly hyperbolic, but I think my point still has merit |
| 22:57.12 | Industrial | aestil: I care about the unknowing user. |
| 22:57.18 | miica | Your copy of rock is tainted |
| 22:57.25 | Shadowed | he makes donations less obtrusive or gives you a method to disable it all together and scrooge goes |
| 22:57.27 | Ironhand | Sorry if this issue has been discussed earlier... my WAU is opening to a blank screen (no addons listed). Tried forcing an update of the list as well as deleting the temp folder, no luck. What could be wrong? |
| 22:57.32 | Industrial | aestil: I don't like getting fucked over myself so I tend to stop that from happening to others |
| 22:57.36 | Industrial | aestil: I'm a social being |
| 22:57.36 | RogueShadow | Wait... I thought scrooge thingy was his personal thing, to change his versions. and he doesn't even use rock?> |
| 22:57.37 | RogueShadow | OMG |
| 22:57.41 | RogueShadow | What's wrong with YOU |
| 22:57.45 | sylvanaar | not my problem |
| 22:58.04 | ckknight | donations are already not intrusive! |
| 22:58.27 | RogueShadow | Donations are very non intrusive. totally. I mean.. you almost have to look for it |
| 22:58.34 | hyperChipmunk | unfortunately, that's subjective |
| 22:58.36 | mikma | "enable donation buttons: [X]" |
| 22:58.39 | mikma | it's that hard |
| 22:58.40 | Industrial | ckknight: and I demand the ability to disable them by using an addon hosted on the wowace.com SVN |
| 22:58.43 | ckknight | not happening, mikma |
| 22:58.45 | aestil | Industrial: then I think you're overracting drastically. |
| 22:58.46 | mikma | but what do we have? cat and mouse |
| 22:58.47 | hyperChipmunk | there's no definition of intrusive that applies to everyone |
| 22:58.53 | mikma | ckknight: that's because you're a fucking ass and you know it |
| 22:58.56 | cryogen | 23:58 < mikma> "enable donation buttons: [X]" |
| 22:59.01 | cryogen | thats not an option |
| 22:59.05 | Industrial | aestil: I don't think so. |
| 22:59.11 | cryogen | thats "do it my way of GTFO" |
| 22:59.18 | cryogen | s/of/or/ |
| 22:59.20 | ckknight | no, if you don't have the donations there, you don't deserve to use my addons, as far as I'm concerned |
| 22:59.30 | Shadowed | you're not the one who decides that |
| 22:59.36 | zeeg | are you sure |
| 22:59.37 | sylvanaar | Ironhand clearly there are larger problems |
| 22:59.37 | ckknight | you're free to use whatever other addons you want. |
| 22:59.38 | Shadowed | you distribute them publically, and thus they can use them regardless of what you think |
| 22:59.39 | hyperChipmunk | that is not for you to decide, ck |
| 22:59.47 | ckknight | um, why not? |
| 22:59.49 | hyperChipmunk | unless you want to close the distribution |
| 23:00.05 | MIK3M4N | is there a way to manually type in waypoints in Cartographer? what is the syntax? |
| 23:00.08 | cryogen | its his addon, its very much his decision to make |
| 23:00.10 | Industrial | ckknight: I am free to use your addons too and poke at them with whatever code I write |
| 23:00.10 | hyperChipmunk | you're missing the entire point behind the licenses you use |
| 23:00.23 | hyperChipmunk | no |
| 23:00.24 | cryogen | no hyperChipmunk, i think you are. |
| 23:00.27 | Industrial | ckknight: you are not free to make it so that my code does not work, and host that code on the svn |
| 23:00.31 | hyperChipmunk | when i download it to my computer, it is my addon |
| 23:00.33 | hyperChipmunk | not his |
| 23:00.34 | Industrial | ckknight: period. |
| 23:00.35 | hyperChipmunk | he wrote it |
| 23:00.35 | cryogen | no. |
| 23:00.37 | cryogen | not true. |
| 23:00.38 | hyperChipmunk | it's my addon |
| 23:00.39 | ckknight | many, many open source programs have donation buttons. |
| 23:00.52 | cryogen | you do not understand GPL *at all* if you seriously think that |
| 23:00.55 | NightHawkAtWork | and people are free to remove them if they want. :P |
| 23:01.16 | hyperChipmunk | you cannot force me to use all of your program or none |
| 23:01.25 | hyperChipmunk | does not work that way |
| 23:01.29 | ckknight | you can remove the code from Rock locally |
| 23:01.39 | ckknight | or fork it if you really want to |
| 23:01.43 | hyperChipmunk | i would if i really cared |
| 23:01.44 | *** join/#wowace Rayden (i=bozartmp@129.21.20.143) |
| 23:01.46 | hyperChipmunk | but i don't |
| 23:01.47 | stavmar | so why does [TalentSpec] not work for other players of the same faction? |
| 23:01.51 | hyperChipmunk | they don't bother me at all |
| 23:01.56 | stavmar | i see my own but not others... |
| 23:01.59 | ckknight | stavmar: if they don't have RockComm, it won't work |
| 23:02.03 | aestil | stavmar: they don't have RockCOmm |
| 23:02.05 | Industrial | stavmar: cause the dont have the addon? |
| 23:02.07 | stavmar | aah |
| 23:02.13 | hyperChipmunk | but the idea that my copy belongs to ckk is not valid |
| 23:02.14 | sylvanaar | they hve to have something that will reply to your query |
| 23:02.14 | dodga | Because 8-Ball is broken. |
| 23:02.21 | stavmar | that sux |
| 23:02.26 | ckknight | hyperChipmunk: it doesn't, I know that. |
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| 23:02.37 | hyperChipmunk | then put a leash on cryogen, please |
| 23:02.37 | ckknight | you're free to remove the code locally and fork if you want |
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| 23:03.00 | NightHawkAtWork | what's the difference between changing code locally, and changing code in memory? |
| 23:03.06 | hyperChipmunk | because he's trying to argue for you and doing you more harm than good |
| 23:03.10 | sylvanaar | lots |
| 23:03.16 | sylvanaar | a whole lot |
| 23:03.22 | cryogen | im not arguing for ckk at all |
| 23:03.27 | ckknight | hey, somebody sent me a donation |
| 23:03.29 | ckknight | good times. |
| 23:03.33 | cryogen | im arguing against dumbass arguments that arent true |
| 23:03.34 | CIA-12 | 03shadowed * r50974 10Scrooge/ (Scrooge.lua Scrooge.toc): Scrooge: Moved to a local configuration, change the ENABLE_TALENTS and ENABLE_PINGS variables at the top of the files to true if you want to enable them, or false if you don't. Default is disable talent/pings |
| 23:03.35 | Ellipsis | NightHawkAtWork: writing your own Scrooge and running it is not the same as distributing Scrooge. |
| 23:03.36 | Industrial | ~rimshot |
| 23:03.37 | purl | ba-dum CHH |
| 23:03.42 | Kuja^ | ckknight: :) |
| 23:03.42 | hyperChipmunk | i'd donate if i had any money, but i don't >8p |
| 23:03.54 | hyperChipmunk | i've used ckk's stuff for a long friggin time |
| 23:04.04 | ckknight | yea, it's okay, hyperChipmunk |
| 23:04.10 | hyperChipmunk | i donate with bug reports |
| 23:04.12 | hyperChipmunk | >8P |
| 23:04.15 | Industrial | ckknight: it wouldnt be if he had? |
| 23:04.20 | RogueShadow | There's no point in running his own scrooge |
| 23:04.22 | RogueShadow | HE DOESN"T USE ROCK |
| 23:04.30 | hyperChipmunk | RogueShadow: it was a user request |
| 23:04.34 | Industrial | RogueShadow: so? it benefits others nicely. |
| 23:04.35 | NightHawkAtWork | Ellipsis: well, wait, I said nothing about distributing it. |
| 23:05.11 | sylvanaar | i cant believe this is the community i have put so much time and effort into to support |
| 23:05.14 | Shadowed | I don't use RaidID either, and I did that for a user request |
| 23:05.23 | Industrial | sylvanaar: me neither. |
| 23:05.32 | Ellipsis | RogueShadow: that's my point |
| 23:05.47 | Arrowmaster | whats RaidID |
| 23:05.49 | NightHawkAtWork | I can't believe you people havn't either murdered each other, or drowned in a pool of your own idiocy, yet. |
| 23:05.59 | Shadowed | shares saved instances between people so you can see whos saved to what |
| 23:06.12 | sylvanaar | private data |
| 23:06.15 | RogueShadow | There are always questions you have to as yourself before trying to solve a problem, even somebody elses. |
| 23:06.16 | Shadowed | s/between people/between people with the mod installed/ |
| 23:06.19 | Maytrix | I am rather shocked at what i am seeing from you guys |
| 23:06.20 | Industrial | NightHawkAtWork: as long as I can yell what I think of it I will - because I believe what I am doing is good. |
| 23:06.23 | RogueShadow | The first one. "Does this problem need solving" |
| 23:06.28 | RogueShadow | answer: not really |
| 23:06.31 | NightHawkAtWork | Industrial: i never said you should stop. :) |
| 23:06.47 | CIA-12 | 03ckknight * r50975 10LibRock-1.0/LibRock-1.0.lua: LibRock-1.0 - add another check. |
| 23:06.55 | Industrial | lame |
| 23:07.07 | NightHawkAtWork | RogueShadow: if someone asks you to solve a problem, is that not, by definition, one that needs solving? |
| 23:07.25 | RogueShadow | NightHawkAtWork, ? Your too trusting. |
| 23:07.32 | ckknight | for one, Shadowed, I'm not 100% sure why you hook RockComm anymore, seeing as the options to disable the talent/addon pinging are available |
| 23:07.35 | Dustwhisper | i dont even see the point of talentbroadcast |
| 23:07.40 | Dustwhisper | except to make fun of retards |
| 23:07.42 | Shadowed | you mean the one you enable by default |
| 23:07.48 | Shadowed | and you need to have it as standalone to disable all the time |
| 23:07.49 | NightHawkAtWork | RogueShadow: hah, i'm far from trusting. |
| 23:07.52 | ckknight | Dustwhisper: do you know how useful it is to make fun of retards? |
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| 23:08.03 | NightHawkAtWork | RogueShadow: I'm simply saying, if someone wants something, what's wrong with someone else providing it? |
| 23:08.04 | ckknight | Shadowed: not true |
| 23:08.08 | NightHawkAtWork | it's the basis of the free market. |
| 23:08.14 | ckknight | Shadowed: glad you tested this out for yourself ;-) |
| 23:08.18 | Dustwhisper | I think it falls to the low standards of the people that use derogatory terms like "noob" living in their own ignorance of their incompetence |
| 23:08.23 | Shadowed | Then explain what it does. |
| 23:08.27 | Shadowed | you already said it's enabled by default |
| 23:08.30 | sylvanaar | 70 Shaodow Priest vs 70 Priest <- thats what the difference is |
| 23:08.31 | CIA-12 | tekkub-wow: 03tekkub * r567 10/trunk/TourGuide/ (TourGuide.lua StatusFrame.lua QuestTracking.lua): TourGuide - Drycoded fix for status frame not updating on quest turnin |
| 23:08.36 | Shadowed | you can't save data as an embed unless you're doing the hack thing and using CVars |
| 23:08.36 | miica | Dustwhisper: noob |
| 23:08.40 | ckknight | Shadowed: it doesn't need to be standalone |
| 23:08.41 | sylvanaar | spelled properly |
| 23:08.44 | ckknight | hack thing |
| 23:08.47 | Shadowed | Then explain what it does. |
| 23:09.00 | RogueShadow | ckknight, I think you need to make every checkbox option a seperate addon.... |
| 23:09.02 | Industrial | sylvanaar: thats just great - but any non retarded player can see what spec a person is by his gear |
| 23:09.04 | Shadowed | and maybe it'll be removed |
| 23:09.10 | Industrial | sylvanaar: if not buffs/appearance |
| 23:09.13 | sylvanaar | over the LFG channel? |
| 23:09.20 | aestil | Industrial: not true. |
| 23:09.22 | Speeddymon | ok wtf.. wau isnt downloading the list of addons, but the website for files. is working |
| 23:09.29 | aestil | a MS fury warrior can have a tankign set. |
| 23:09.35 | sylvanaar | Maybe WAU is broken |
| 23:09.45 | sylvanaar | who knows |
| 23:09.51 | sylvanaar | someone fucked it up |
| 23:09.58 | Maytrix | confirmed addon list not populating |
| 23:10.13 | sylvanaar | i know the code hasnt changed |
| 23:10.16 | Industrial | sylvanaar: yeah you tend to say you are a shadow priest and not a holy priest when looking for a group - or that you are looking for dps and not for a healer |
| 23:10.21 | Industrial | sylvanaar: thats common sense |
| 23:10.28 | Industrial | nn clad|sleep |
| 23:10.35 | clad|sleep | just prepping :P |
| 23:10.37 | clad|sleep | but thanks. |
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| 23:10.38 | Speeddymon | yea i havent had to update in 2 days, and its been working fine (even this morning before i went to bed at 8 it was working) |
| 23:10.53 | Industrial | sylvanaar: but you can see it instantly! |
| 23:11.11 | sylvanaar | yeah, thats bad |
| 23:11.19 | Industrial | no, there is just no global need. |
| 23:11.28 | Industrial | thus - the functionality is not in the right place. |
| 23:12.07 | Industrial | how many times do I have to repeat this? |
| 23:12.23 | Ellipsis | have to? |
| 23:12.26 | ckknight | until your throat gets sore? |
| 23:12.32 | CIA-12 | tekkub-wow: 03tekkub * r568 10/trunk/TourGuide/Alliance/66_67_BladesEdge.lua: TourGuide - Blade's edge guide tweak |
| 23:12.42 | sylvanaar | forever, because you produce nothing useful, just ideas |
| 23:12.50 | clad|sleep | if his throat gets sore from typing, we have a bigger problem. |
| 23:12.53 | clad|sleep | sylvanaar: Ah personal attacks.. nice. |
| 23:12.55 | Industrial | clad|sleep: haha |
| 23:13.02 | sylvanaar | clad|sleep you arent above them |
| 23:13.03 | Ellipsis | it's not the typing, it's what he's doing *while* he types |
| 23:13.13 | clad|sleep | sylvanaar: Oh really? |
| 23:13.15 | clad|sleep | logs please. |
| 23:13.18 | cladhaire | I have time for this. |
| 23:13.28 | hyperChipmunk | sylvanaar: didn't you base Prat on one of his addons? |
| 23:13.28 | Industrial | Ellipsis: hmmm, you tell me :D |
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| 23:13.31 | Ellipsis | this is relevant to cladhaire's interests |
| 23:13.36 | Industrial | sylvanaar: ZING |
| 23:13.47 | Industrial | sylvanaar didnt actually, he just took my project over |
| 23:14.11 | Industrial | Ellipsis: what kind of interests? |
| 23:14.18 | sylvanaar | you werent even involved |
| 23:14.21 | Ellipsis | you tell me |
| 23:14.33 | sylvanaar | it was a mess |
| 23:14.36 | Industrial | sylvanaar: but it was my product |
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| 23:15.34 | sylvanaar | whats your point, that i took it and improved on it? i was actually the 2nd such improvement |
| 23:15.36 | Industrial | And since when is criticism not helpful? I do it _because_ it might help. |
| 23:15.54 | Industrial | sylvanaar: that you should take back that I don't produce anything. |
| 23:16.07 | Industrial | sylvanaar: ive been here longer then you producing things. |
| 23:16.09 | cladhaire | sylvanaar: his point is you just personally insulted him, and were flat out wrong |
| 23:16.10 | cladhaire | period. |
| 23:16.14 | cryogen | you know who really suffers out of all this bullshit? the users. the only people who matter. |
| 23:16.18 | cladhaire | if you're going to stoop.. at least be right |
| 23:16.20 | *** part/#wowace cryogen (i=stu@freenode/staff/cryogen) |
| 23:16.24 | cladhaire | cryogen: Indeed.. locked up WoW sucks. |
| 23:16.30 | Paradox_ | guys.. I moved some frames around with an addon, delete the addon and it's wtf files, but a lot of frames are staying in this new position... is there some independant wow files that store the position? |
| 23:16.33 | *** join/#wowace NW|Tattersail (n=j@adsl-83-100-173-115.karoo.KCOM.COM) |
| 23:16.45 | NW|Tattersail | latest wowaceupdater not working for anyone else? |
| 23:16.47 | hyperChipmunk | Paradox_: yes |
| 23:16.47 | Ellipsis | Paradox_: layout-cache.txt in your WTF dir |
| 23:16.53 | Paradox_ | ah-ha |
| 23:16.54 | reminkly | Anyone feel like dealing w/ a wowaceupdater issue? |
| 23:16.54 | Paradox_ | thank's |
| 23:16.57 | sylvanaar | no |
| 23:17.18 | NW|Tattersail | what issue reminkly? |
| 23:17.20 | Industrial | maybe I can produce something then |
| 23:17.22 | Industrial | .. maybe not |
| 23:17.31 | Paradox_ | on my WAU i'm not seeing my list of addons |
| 23:17.41 | sylvanaar | what i am saying, is he doesnt put his own stuff up for criticism, just critisizes others |
| 23:17.42 | Paradox_ | thought it was a server problem, might fix itself soon |
| 23:17.53 | reminkly | uninstalled the updater, cleared the temps, cleared the app data, installed it clean |
| 23:17.59 | Industrial | sylvanaar: http://code.google.com/p/wow-industrial/\ |
| 23:18.00 | clad|sleep | sylvanaar: Have you not seen all his addons posted on wowi? |
| 23:18.02 | NW|Tattersail | same here paradox |
| 23:18.04 | clad|sleep | and googlecode? |
| 23:18.08 | NW|Tattersail | seems like a bug then |
| 23:18.09 | reminkly | can't see addons, installed or not, and it just sits there |
| 23:18.10 | sylvanaar | last i looked it was blank |
| 23:18.15 | NW|Tattersail | yea ok |
| 23:18.16 | NW|Tattersail | bugged |
| 23:18.16 | Ellipsis | look harder |
| 23:18.21 | NW|Tattersail | let's wait for an update :) |
| 23:18.25 | reminkly | k |
| 23:18.39 | reminkly | happy i spent 20 mins clearing every trace of it off my pc to see its a bug |
| 23:18.40 | reminkly | =) |
| 23:18.43 | Wobin | # idActionbar/ |
| 23:18.44 | Wobin | # idAutomate/ |
| 23:18.44 | Wobin | # idChat/ |
| 23:18.44 | Wobin | # idExperience/ |
| 23:18.44 | Wobin | # idMinimap/ |
| 23:18.46 | Wobin | # idQuestAutomation/ |
| 23:18.48 | Wobin | # idStats/ |
| 23:18.50 | Wobin | # myAddon/ |
| 23:18.51 | [Ammo] | spam |
| 23:18.52 | Wobin | # oUF_Industrial/ |
| 23:18.54 | Wobin | # zChat/ |
| 23:18.56 | Wobin | # zMinimap/ |
| 23:18.57 | Industrial | sylvanaar: as you read my wowi comments I'm actually practically begging to get my addons criticzed |
| 23:18.58 | hyperChipmunk | /kick wobin spaaaaaaam |
| 23:18.58 | Wobin | # zQuestAutomation/ |
| 23:19.00 | Wobin | # zStats/ |
| 23:19.00 | *** kick/#wowace [Wobin!n=ckknight@rrcs-74-62-251-185.west.biz.rr.com] by ckknight (ckknight) |
| 23:19.02 | Ellipsis | spam, spam, spam, spam, spam, eggs, and spam |
| 23:19.08 | *** join/#wowace Wobin (n=wobin@203-158-37-128.dyn.iinet.net.au) |
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| 23:19.12 | ckknight | sorry Wobin, spam |
| 23:19.14 | clad|sleep | damn. |
| 23:19.16 | clad|sleep | i kicked him first, i promise :P |
| 23:19.17 | ulic | + |
| 23:19.18 | Wobin | aye =) |
| 23:19.21 | Wobin | I deserved it =P |
| 23:19.22 | sylvanaar | i read them here, clicked the link and the page was blank |
| 23:19.30 | mikma | Wobin: no they deserved it |
| 23:19.31 | hyperChipmunk | i beat both of you, but i was polite and only said it |
| 23:19.34 | Wobin | Most of the googlecode stuff is always in the SVN |
| 23:19.37 | aestil | Ellipsis: all i see is sex sex sex sex, breakfast in bed, sex |
| 23:19.45 | kdtresh | any threat 1.0 people around? |
| 23:19.47 | Ellipsis | aestil: not for you, sorry |
| 23:19.51 | Industrial | "Btw I really like bug reports and feature requests.", first thing I posted on my wowi portal |
| 23:19.57 | sylvanaar | and the thread i read it on had you being quite sarcastic |
| 23:19.58 | aestil | i have my own access to sex, i don't need you! |
| 23:20.08 | Ellipsis | k |
| 23:20.12 | Ellipsis | /emo |
| 23:20.14 | *** part/#wowace reminkly (n=theories@c-67-167-173-4.hsd1.tn.comcast.net) |
| 23:20.31 | Wobin | Ellipsis: Remember kids, it's down the street, not across the road. |
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| 23:20.37 | clad|sleep | srsly |
| 23:20.42 | Industrial | sylvanaar: I mean that though. You are welcome to submit a ticket (anyone is), because I don't have any open onws. |
| 23:20.45 | Industrial | ones* |
| 23:22.50 | Ellipsis | Industrial: do you reeeeeally want a ticket? |
| 23:22.51 | sag_ich_nicht | [01:20] <+Wobin> Ellipsis: Remember kids, it's down the street, not across the road. <--wrong |
| 23:22.55 | sag_ich_nicht | THRU THE JUGGULAR |
| 23:22.57 | Ellipsis | ~emo |
| 23:22.58 | purl | /wrists |
| 23:22.59 | kdtresh | guess that's a negative on the threat1.0 |
| 23:23.06 | sag_ich_nicht | kdtresh |
| 23:23.08 | sag_ich_nicht | ~irc |
| 23:23.08 | purl | "Welcome to IRC: where the men are men, the women are men, and the little girls are FBI agents." |
| 23:23.10 | sag_ich_nicht | no wait |
| 23:23.14 | sag_ich_nicht | that's the wrong one |
| 23:23.16 | sag_ich_nicht | ~asktoask |
| 23:23.16 | purl | This is IRC. Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question and if someone's around, they'll be glad to help. |
| 23:23.17 | sag_ich_nicht | there. |
| 23:23.22 | Industrial | Ellipsis: even if all it says is that you like me then yes. |
| 23:23.31 | Ellipsis | o rly? |
| 23:23.35 | Industrial | y |
| 23:23.41 | Ellipsis | what if it says OMG WTF THIS ADDON NEEDS TO LET ME HAVE YOUR BABIES |
| 23:23.55 | Ellipsis | 'cause that's a feature request I have for all your stuff tbvh |
| 23:24.08 | aestil | Ellipsis: you only want ckk's babies. |
| 23:24.12 | Ellipsis | lies |
| 23:24.14 | Wobin | Addon insemination? |
| 23:24.17 | Ellipsis | I want Industrial's babies and ckknight's sex |
| 23:24.21 | kdtresh | is the vw threat in threat 1.0 going to be fixed any time soon? |
| 23:24.23 | sag_ich_nicht | heh |
| 23:24.25 | sag_ich_nicht | so |
| 23:24.26 | sag_ich_nicht | Ellipsis |
| 23:24.28 | sag_ich_nicht | what you say |
| 23:24.33 | Wobin | Every time you use this addon a small amount of the author's semen is inserted into you? |
| 23:24.37 | ckknight | ooh, someone else sent me a donation |
| 23:24.38 | Ellipsis | yes Wobin! |
| 23:24.41 | ckknight | much love |
| 23:24.47 | sag_ich_nicht | is that you claim Industrial first born son and intend to mutilate ckknight's genetialia? |
| 23:24.49 | Wobin | Ellipsis: Go visit hawaii |
| 23:24.55 | Wobin | and screw ckk |
| 23:24.56 | Ellipsis | Wobin: oh I plan to |
| 23:25.00 | sag_ich_nicht | *Industrial's |
| 23:25.03 | Wobin | Quickly |
| 23:25.07 | ckknight | my parents are out of town, Ellipsis ;-) |
| 23:25.07 | Wobin | before time runs out |
| 23:25.16 | clad|sleep | i think i just threw up in my mouth |
| 23:25.17 | clad|sleep | brb |
| 23:25.18 | Ellipsis | ckknight: I know...do you have enough donations to pay for my ticket yet? |
| 23:25.24 | Industrial | clad|sleep: rofl |
| 23:25.30 | Industrial | clad|sleep: you make me wake the hous up |
| 23:25.30 | durcyn | ckknight: LibRock-1.0.lua:308: attempt to call upvalue 'IsAddOnEnabled' (a nil value) |
| 23:25.30 | sag_ich_nicht | Ellipsis: answer my question! |
| 23:25.38 | ckknight | durcyn: sorry, whoops |
| 23:25.38 | Ellipsis | sag_ich_nicht: maybe |
| 23:25.49 | kandarz | pix or it didn't happen |
| 23:25.59 | sag_ich_nicht | Ellipsis: don't heissenberg me! |
| 23:26.02 | sag_ich_nicht | -s |
| 23:26.29 | Wobin | Oh the humanity =( |
| 23:26.43 | hyperChipmunk | rofl |
| 23:26.45 | kandarz | ellipsis is a man imo |
| 23:26.52 | hyperChipmunk | that was awful |
| 23:27.01 | Wobin | ^^ |
| 23:27.10 | kdtresh | anyone know when vw threat will be fixed in omen/threat1.0? |
| 23:27.13 | sag_ich_nicht | kandarz: i don't really care, i will continue to flame either way |
| 23:27.14 | kdtresh | or if it's even being addressed? |
| 23:27.15 | Ellipsis | kandarz: your opinion is yours to hold |
| 23:27.21 | Industrial | kandarz: maybe I'm a girl. |
| 23:27.25 | CIA-12 | 03ckknight * r50976 10LibRock-1.0/LibRock-1.0.lua: LibRock-1.0 - fix IsAddOnEnabled reference. |
| 23:27.25 | sag_ich_nicht | ~irc |
| 23:27.26 | purl | "Welcome to IRC: where the men are men, the women are men, and the little girls are FBI agents." |
| 23:27.29 | Ellipsis | I'd hit it anyway, Industrial |
| 23:27.34 | Industrial | Ellipsis: lets have lesbian |
| 23:27.35 | Industrial | ahah |
| 23:27.37 | Ellipsis | ok |
| 23:27.38 | kandarz | Industrial: I need pix of you in a wig to confirm then |
| 23:27.38 | Industrial | i was just typing it out |
| 23:27.56 | ckknight | Industrial's male |
| 23:27.59 | ckknight | I've seen him. |
| 23:28.04 | Industrial | shit :P |
| 23:28.04 | sag_ich_nicht | wait |
| 23:28.05 | Ellipsis | ckknight knows from personal experience |
| 23:28.11 | sag_ich_nicht | damn it Ellipsis |
| 23:28.13 | ckknight | webcam times |
| 23:28.14 | sag_ich_nicht | i was going to say that |
| 23:28.19 | Ellipsis | owned sag_ich_nicht |
| 23:28.26 | Industrial | I had camsex with ckknight. |
| 23:28.28 | Industrial | ^-- quote me |
| 23:28.30 | ckknight | ... |
| 23:28.33 | Ellipsis | also: anything Industrial can do to prove he's male, I can do to prove I'm female, so... |
| 23:28.37 | sag_ich_nicht | Ellipsis: no, i'm not a sub, so that statement is wrong. :X |
| 23:28.42 | Ellipsis | oh |
| 23:28.43 | ckknight | Industrial: show your penis! |
| 23:28.44 | Ellipsis | wanna be? |
| 23:28.44 | aestil | Ellipsis: no you can't. |
| 23:28.59 | Ellipsis | aestil: o rly? |
| 23:29.07 | aestil | Ellipsis: ya rly |
| 23:29.16 | sag_ich_nicht | Ellipsis: not really. |
| 23:29.29 | Wobin | Ellipsis: Well, I could ask Indy to go pee up and to the right... |
| 23:29.38 | Industrial | Wobin: I prefer to sit |
| 23:29.42 | *** join/#wowace Mr_Rabies2 (i=Mr_Rabie@adsl-066-156-082-132.sip.asm.bellsouth.net) |
| 23:29.43 | Samir | Hey can somebody explain me the difference between those two statements? |
| 23:29.45 | Samir | local lib = {} |
| 23:29.46 | Samir | AceLibrary("AceEvent-2.0"):embed(lib) |
| 23:29.48 | Samir | |
| 23:29.49 | Ellipsis | oh Indy, you're such a girl |
| 23:29.50 | Samir | lib = AceLibrary("AceAddon-2.0"):new("AceEvent-2.0") |
| 23:29.53 | Industrial | aren't I |
| 23:30.03 | Ellipsis | I like it :> |
| 23:30.06 | NightHawkAtWork | more of one than Ellipsis? |
| 23:30.12 | Ellipsis | quite possibly |
| 23:30.14 | Mr_Rabies2 | is WAU 1.9.44.677 having problems reaching the SVN for anyone else? :o |
| 23:30.29 | ckknight | Samir: it's complex. |
| 23:30.38 | CIA-12 | 03shadowed * r50977 10Scrooge/ (Scrooge.lua Scrooge.toc): Scrooge: Hooks are fun, disabled more LibRock-1.0 checks |
| 23:30.47 | ckknight | Samir: functionally, they're not too different |
| 23:30.47 | sylvanaar | apparently everyone |
| 23:30.48 | NightHawkAtWork | under other circumstances that would make me skeptical of your femaleness, but indy's a pretty big bitch, so i could believe he's a chick |
| 23:31.02 | Industrial | yes! \o/ |
| 23:31.04 | Samir | come on , explain ccknight ;) |
| 23:31.14 | NightHawkAtWork | <3 Industrial |
| 23:31.19 | Industrial | <3 |
| 23:31.27 | *** join/#wowace Dunreith (n=Dunreith@cpe-65-24-115-216.columbus.res.rr.com) |
| 23:32.06 | ckknight | Samir: complex OO stuff |
| 23:32.08 | sag_ich_nicht | in before Ellipsis starts RPF about the people in here |
| 23:32.13 | Paradox_ | anyone have an idea why I can't open the fubar options |
| 23:32.16 | Ellipsis | o rly? |
| 23:32.20 | Paradox_ | typing /fubar won't even let me hit enter |
| 23:32.27 | Ellipsis | Paradox_: what error are you getting |
| 23:32.36 | Paradox_ | no error, the options window just won't open |
| 23:32.40 | Ellipsis | . |
| 23:32.41 | Dunreith | was having the same issue also |
| 23:32.42 | Industrial | ~wtf rpf |
| 23:32.48 | Industrial | sag_ich_nicht: ? |
| 23:32.55 | sag_ich_nicht | wiki it, geez |
| 23:33.11 | *** join/#wowace Erica (n=erica647@cpe-075-178-181-026.nc.res.rr.com) |
| 23:33.14 | Kaelten | are people having problems with wau? |
| 23:33.16 | Industrial | Registered Professional Forester ? |
| 23:33.17 | kandarz | purl should be able to get urbandictionary definitions |
| 23:33.22 | Dunreith | yeah, WAU 1.9.44.677 coming up empty set for me |
| 23:33.25 | Industrial | Rwandan Patriotic Front ? |
| 23:33.28 | Erica | I'm having problems with wau yes |
| 23:33.31 | Kaelten | huh |
| 23:33.31 | Maytrix | yes Kaelten |
| 23:33.38 | Paradox_ | how did you fix it Dunreith |
| 23:33.38 | sag_ich_nicht | Industrial: consider the grammatical struture of my sentence when looking it up |
| 23:33.39 | sag_ich_nicht | geez |
| 23:33.42 | Maytrix | addon list not populating |
| 23:33.42 | Kaelten | I haven't changed anthing on the xml feeds |
| 23:33.54 | Dunreith | haven't fixed it yet, getting more info |
| 23:34.05 | Maytrix | says the list isnt cached |
| 23:34.06 | elusif | is there a way to make cartographer display the cordinates on the minimap? |
| 23:34.10 | Industrial | sag_ich_nicht: oh, I see. |
| 23:34.12 | elusif | it would be really usefu; |
| 23:34.14 | elusif | useful |
| 23:34.16 | Industrial | sag_ich_nicht: haha! |
| 23:34.20 | *** join/#wowace emagdnim (n=mindgame@217.54.100.97.cfl.res.rr.com) |
| 23:34.28 | ckknight | elusif: sorry, no. I recommend simpleMinimap |
| 23:34.32 | Industrial | :> |
| 23:34.35 | Ellipsis | sag_ich_nicht: there's better people for that |
| 23:34.39 | CIA-12 | 03shadowed * r50978 10/trunk/ (!Scrooge/ Scrooge/): Scrooge: Renamed for a better change of loading first with our hooks |
| 23:34.42 | Ellipsis | you guys are too whiny and bitchy :P |
| 23:34.56 | Erica | These developers spoil us |
| 23:35.01 | Industrial | yeah, stupid guys. |
| 23:35.01 | Maytrix | Data is not cached(old) is the error |
| 23:35.07 | Dunreith | error msg, preventing /rock -- "LibRockConfig-1.0--49051:1737: table index is nil |
| 23:35.07 | Dunreith | LibRockConfig-1.0--49051:2290: in function <...s\FuBar\libs\LibRockConfig-1.0\LibRockConfig-1.0.lua:2232> |
| 23:35.07 | Dunreith | LibRockConfig-1.0--49051:675: in function `OpenConfigMenu' |
| 23:35.07 | Dunreith | LibRockConfig-1.0--49051:6620: in function `value' |
| 23:35.08 | Dunreith | Interface\FrameXML\ChatFrame.lua:3017: in function <Interface\FrameXML\ChatFrame.lua:2942>: |
| 23:35.08 | Dunreith | <in C code>: ? |
| 23:35.09 | kandarz | girls are dumb too |
| 23:35.10 | Dunreith | <in C code>: in function `ChatEdit_ParseText' |
| 23:35.12 | Dunreith | Interface\FrameXML\ChatFrame.lua:2709: in function `ChatEdit_SendText': |
| 23:35.14 | Dunreith | Interface\FrameXML\ChatFrame.lua:2730: in function `ChatEdit_OnEnterPressed': |
| 23:35.16 | Ellipsis | boys are gross |
| 23:35.16 | Dunreith | <string>:"*:OnEnterPressed":1: in function <[string "*:OnEnterPressed"]:1> |
| 23:35.17 | kandarz | ~pastey |
| 23:35.18 | purl | it has been said that pastey is the place we like to have errors, diffs, and any large chunks of text sent. Look at the topic of the channel you're in to see if they have a specific pastey.net they like to use, otherwise, you can use whatever you want -- yournick.pastey.net, flood.pastey.net, or just pastey.net. Go to one of these URLs, insert the text, press the ... |
| 23:35.21 | Antiarc | Dunreith: ace.pastey.net |
| 23:35.27 | sag_ich_nicht | [01:34] <Ellipsis> you guys are too whiny and bitchy :P <--not whiney. just bitchy. all the time. |
| 23:35.33 | Dunreith | sorry about the spam |
| 23:35.42 | ckknight | I fixed that, Dunreith |
| 23:35.42 | Antiarc | Yeah, sag_ich_nicht is like my own personal bitch! <3 |
| 23:35.51 | Antiarc | Or bitchyness-provider |
| 23:35.53 | Antiarc | One of the two |
| 23:35.56 | Antiarc | Either way, <3 |
| 23:36.00 | Ellipsis | sag_ich_nicht is mine |
| 23:36.00 | sag_ich_nicht | Antiarc |
| 23:36.01 | elusif | ty ckknight |
| 23:36.04 | Ellipsis | I claimed him like 3 screens up |
| 23:36.07 | Antiarc | Dude |
| 23:36.13 | Antiarc | I claimed him like 10 years ago |
| 23:36.15 | sag_ich_nicht | Ellipsis: quote or it didn't happen |
| 23:36.19 | Antiarc | >:[ |
| 23:36.23 | CIA-12 | 03yhwh * r50979 10CombatDnd/CombatDnd.toc: |
| 23:36.23 | CIA-12 | CombatDnd: |
| 23:36.23 | CIA-12 | -- Added zhCN localizations |
| 23:36.32 | sag_ich_nicht | Antiarc: shaddup and reproduce the bug in threat-1.0 |
| 23:36.34 | aestil | Ellipsis: seems like people are requiring proofs from you on alot of issues. |
| 23:36.51 | Ellipsis | no wai |
| 23:36.52 | sag_ich_nicht | aestil: quote or it didn't happen |
| 23:36.55 | Dunreith | Error when attempting to open Rock Config: http://ace.pastey.net/74854 |
| 23:37.02 | *** join/#wowace skypilot (n=chatzill@bas4-toronto63-1096776949.dsl.bell.ca) |
| 23:37.02 | kandarz | I still this your a guy |
| 23:37.06 | Industrial | aestil: pics of that. |
| 23:37.14 | sag_ich_nicht | Industrial: you lag behind |
| 23:37.19 | sag_ich_nicht | [01:36] <sag_ich_nicht> aestil: quote or it didn't happen |
| 23:37.20 | sag_ich_nicht | :P |
| 23:37.24 | Ellipsis | kandarz, you're welcome to believe that - if you would like proof otherwise, just let me know what I can do for ya |
| 23:37.28 | CIA-12 | 03yhwh * r50980 10CombatDnd/Locale-zhCN.lua: |
| 23:37.28 | CIA-12 | CombatDnd: |
| 23:37.28 | CIA-12 | -- Added zhCN localizations |
| 23:37.30 | Antiarc | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=2215842565&postId=22153035129&sid=1 |
| 23:37.32 | Industrial | sag_ich_nicht: bitch. =D |
| 23:37.40 | Industrial | ~rimshot |
| 23:37.40 | purl | ba-dum CHH |
| 23:37.48 | kandarz | and Industrial is a guy who cross dresses |
| 23:38.02 | CIA-12 | 03shadowed * r50981 10!Scrooge/ (!Scrooge.toc Scrooge.toc): !Scrooge: Forgot to rename TOC |
| 23:38.03 | NightHawkAtWork | or is he a GIRL that cross dresses. |
| 23:38.12 | kandarz | either one works |
| 23:38.21 | sag_ich_nicht | lol |
| 23:38.32 | sag_ich_nicht | cross dressing girls are hilarious |
| 23:38.39 | sag_ich_nicht | :P |
| 23:38.41 | aestil | wtf, Industrial, sag_ich_nicht I R CONFUSED |
| 23:38.47 | sag_ich_nicht | WAIT |
| 23:38.48 | sag_ich_nicht | ANTIARC |
| 23:38.50 | sag_ich_nicht | WHAT |
| 23:38.51 | NivFreak | wow |
| 23:38.53 | sag_ich_nicht | WHAT |
| 23:38.53 | NivFreak | AV changes |
| 23:38.54 | sag_ich_nicht | NO |
| 23:38.56 | sag_ich_nicht | EVERYONE SHUT UP |
| 23:38.57 | NivFreak | I'm scared |
| 23:38.58 | Antiarc | I'm going to come in to IRC tomorrow and see ckknight committing !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!LibRockConfig, aren't I? |
| 23:39.00 | sag_ich_nicht | AND CLICK ANTIARCS LINK |
| 23:39.06 | sag_ich_nicht | Antiarc: yes. |
| 23:39.37 | Dunreith | yeah, new data for WAU is hosed, "(Data is not cached old)" and no addons listed |
| 23:39.41 | NightHawkAtWork | Antiarc: yes |
| 23:40.49 | *** join/#wowace syeren (i=syeren@cpc3-oldh5-0-0-cust762.manc.cable.ntl.com) |
| 23:40.51 | Industrial | bah enough bullshit for tonight. I'm shutting down my computer to read a book. |
| 23:40.54 | NightHawkAtWork | Interesting AV changes |
| 23:41.00 | Ellipsis | night Indy, think of me <3 |
| 23:41.02 | Trell_ | WOAH |
| 23:41.11 | Industrial | Ellipsis: allways <3 |
| 23:41.15 | CIA-12 | 03ckknight * r50982 10LibRock-1.0/LibRock-1.0.lua: LibRock-1.0 - continuing the arduous game of cat and mouse. |
| 23:41.29 | Tinyboom | lol |
| 23:41.31 | kandarz | lQL |
| 23:41.36 | Trell_ | AV <3 |
| 23:41.36 | kandarz | err |
| 23:41.38 | kandarz | lawl |
| 23:41.47 | *** join/#wowace chrisapple (n=sdfkjsdf@p50859660.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 23:41.54 | chrisapple | hi |
| 23:41.55 | RogueShadow | spellbinder is not bad. not going to have any visible bars anymore. realestate heaven. |
| 23:42.02 | Birdemani | is the auto updater stuck in some wierd loop for some? |
| 23:42.14 | RogueShadow | ckknight, What exactly are you doing in this cat and mouse game? |
| 23:42.14 | Birdemani | nm, site is down |
| 23:42.21 | Shadowed | He's trying to break scrooge |
| 23:42.23 | Trell_ | i guess getting around Scrooge |
| 23:42.26 | sag_ich_nicht | oka< |
| 23:42.27 | sag_ich_nicht | *okay |
| 23:42.29 | sag_ich_nicht | night guys |
| 23:42.29 | Shadowed | trying, not getting |
| 23:42.33 | sag_ich_nicht | and "guys" |
| 23:42.34 | ckknight | RogueShadow: the goal is to prevent Scrooge from disabling my donation buttons |
| 23:42.36 | sag_ich_nicht | and possible girls |
| 23:42.43 | Industrial | bye sag_ich_nicht o/~ |
| 23:42.48 | RogueShadow | I imagine your being specific about how you do that |
| 23:42.49 | Ellipsis | night sag_ich_nicht <3 |
| 23:42.52 | Antiarc | ckknight: Go KTM on it |
| 23:42.52 | sag_ich_nicht | ~lart Industrial |
| 23:42.52 | purl | teaches Industrial the basics, including how to RTM |
| 23:42.53 | sag_ich_nicht | faggot |
| 23:42.54 | sag_ich_nicht | :X |
| 23:42.56 | chrisapple | Is the "Data is not cached old" problem fixed? |
| 23:42.59 | Industrial | ;D |
| 23:43.01 | RogueShadow | instead of breaking it if scrooge is present at all |
| 23:43.03 | Antiarc | Poll every 0.5 seconds to see if the donation buttons are there and add it if it isn't |
| 23:43.03 | Shadowed | RogueShadow it's SVN, you can just see what he does |
| 23:43.09 | Ellipsis | lulz Antiarc |
| 23:43.15 | ckknight | lol, Antiarc |
| 23:43.18 | RogueShadow | Shadowed, It's easier to ask. fishin |
| 23:43.19 | Antiarc | Also, please check to see if I'm a hunter |
| 23:43.24 | Antiarc | On the same period |
| 23:43.32 | Ellipsis | just in case |
| 23:43.37 | ckknight | well, I mean, you could change from pally to hunter if you tried |
| 23:43.37 | Antiarc | You never know |
| 23:43.42 | Kemayo | Hunters need more donation buttons. To make up for all the loot being for them. |
| 23:43.43 | Xinhuan | rofl |
| 23:43.49 | Xinhuan | [10/5 07:40:22] <+Antiarc> Poll every 0.5 seconds to see if the donation buttons are there and add it if it isn't |
| 23:43.50 | Antiarc | Kemayo raises a good point |
| 23:43.52 | Ellipsis | yeah, hunters are too greedy |
| 23:43.54 | Xinhuan | that's the best thing i've read today |
| 23:44.01 | Erica | wow even hunter bashing in irc... woah |
| 23:44.03 | Antiarc | And hunters are rich due to saving money on wipes thanks to Feign Death |
| 23:44.11 | Antiarc | So they are a prime donation target |
| 23:44.19 | chrisapple | can someone help me to get my wowaceupdater getting worked? |
| 23:44.22 | RogueShadow | Does scrooge do anything besides hide donations buttons, now that the talent sharing option is available |
| 23:44.35 | Antiarc | chrisapple: Seems like Kaelten is AFK, but we'll poke him when he's back |
| 23:44.43 | Antiarc | Seems like it's a general problem, not just you |
| 23:44.44 | kandarz | ckknight, this still applys: http://img216.imageshack.us/img216/2981/loldonateif1.jpg obviously for the old version of rockconfig, but you should still do it for people with scrooge |
| 23:44.48 | Shadowed | it always disables pings/talents since ckk has yet said how he saves the stat of your talent stuff |
| 23:44.49 | Kaelten | actually I'm looking at working |
| 23:44.56 | ckknight | lol, kandarz |
| 23:44.57 | Xinhuan | well the funny thing is, Scrooge is originally named !Scrooge |
| 23:45.06 | Xinhuan | was renamed Scrooge |
| 23:45.07 | Shadowed | Xinhuan the only reason it was renamed to !Scrooge is because it needs to load first due to hooks |
| 23:45.27 | ckknight | Shadowed: it messes with _G.TALENT_FRAME_WAS_SHOWN |
| 23:45.27 | Shadowed | and I'm not sure what the rules are regarding bats so i haven't uploaded one of those to just let you rename it |
| 23:45.32 | kandarz | only have it do that for people with scrooge though |
| 23:45.48 | Shadowed | so you're using a hack to do it |
| 23:45.52 | Shadowed | yea, i'm not removing it |
| 23:46.03 | ckknight | which is almost always 1 (except on initial login), and doesn't hurt by changing it |
| 23:46.13 | ckknight | Shadowed: because Blizzard removed RegisterForSave? |
| 23:46.22 | ckknight | so for libraries to save state, they have to use hacks |
| 23:46.29 | Paradox_ | Dunreith figured out the problem ? |
| 23:46.30 | Ellipsis | embeddable* |
| 23:46.32 | hyperChipmunk | unless some other addon has a legit query on it |
| 23:46.35 | Shadowed | they shouldn't be embedded if they require a saved state |
| 23:46.42 | Industrial | ckknight: give up already. You are trying to suppress free speech. |
| 23:46.51 | ckknight | wait, how, Industrial? |
| 23:46.57 | *** join/#wowace Jorden-ED (n=chatzill@cpe-76-170-244-178.socal.res.rr.com) |
| 23:47.02 | Kemayo | Industrial: He really isn't. |
| 23:47.04 | ckknight | I'm suppressing him suppressing me |
| 23:47.16 | ckknight | help, help, I'm being oppressed! |
| 23:47.20 | Ellipsis | ^win |
| 23:47.23 | ckknight | or was it repressed? |
| 23:47.25 | Ellipsis | repressed |
| 23:47.28 | ckknight | yea, it was |
| 23:47.29 | hyperChipmunk | repressed |
| 23:47.30 | Dunreith | @Paradox_: which problem? I raised 2 issues. (WAU and Rock Config) |
| 23:47.31 | Ellipsis | but you got the point across |
| 23:47.34 | hyperChipmunk | unless you're Cheech |
| 23:47.42 | hyperChipmunk | then it's recessed |
| 23:47.50 | Paradox_ | Dunreith: config |
| 23:47.51 | CIA-12 | 03shadowed * r50983 10!Scrooge/Scrooge.lua: !Scrooge: Improved hook fakes |
| 23:47.57 | Dunreith | and no, they're both still not working atm |
| 23:48.00 | NightHawkAtWork | Industrial: brew? or brood? |
| 23:48.04 | NightHawkAtWork | i could use a rew |
| 23:48.06 | NightHawkAtWork | brew |
| 23:48.06 | kandarz | does anyone know how many people actually use scrooge? |
| 23:48.09 | Ellipsis | he can brew me some coffee while he's up |
| 23:48.10 | Ellipsis | tbh |
| 23:48.12 | Shadowed | kandarz nup |
| 23:48.17 | Shadowed | 10-20 maybe, dunno |
| 23:48.22 | Paradox_ | what's scrooge? :P |
| 23:48.23 | *** join/#wowace Jorden-ED (n=chatzill@cpe-76-170-244-178.socal.res.rr.com) |
| 23:48.26 | Ellipsis | exactly |
| 23:48.26 | NightHawkAtWork | kandarz: i think half a dozen have come in here just today because of problems |
| 23:48.27 | Trell_ | i hope no one uses it on my server |
| 23:48.33 | chrisapple | was geht denn jetzt mit dem updater hier ab? |
| 23:48.35 | Shadowed | disables donation buttons in rock/ace Paradox_ |
| 23:48.36 | Trell_ | how dare they not allow me access to their specs |
| 23:48.41 | Jorden-ED | anyone know if antagonist is working yet? |
| 23:48.42 | Shadowed | along with talent/pings in both |
| 23:48.46 | Industrial | chrisapple: #wau |
| 23:48.48 | zeeg | GOGO HOOK FAKES |
| 23:48.52 | zeeg | -.- |
| 23:48.53 | kandarz | out of how many people that use wowace addons? 10-20 probably isn't much |
| 23:48.54 | zeeg | so useless |
| 23:48.54 | Trell_ | chrisapple - englisch bitte |
| 23:49.04 | Shadowed | naw |
| 23:49.05 | Ellipsis | kandarz: it's the principle of the thing! |
| 23:49.09 | Mecdemort | is files down? |
| 23:49.09 | Paradox_ | I wouldn't bother installing another addon just to disable donate buttons that I see for 1% of the time i'm playing |
| 23:49.10 | Shadowed | just rename it to something new, and he can't catch it |
| 23:49.12 | Shadowed | problem solved |
| 23:49.12 | *** part/#wowace emagdnim (n=mindgame@217.54.100.97.cfl.res.rr.com) |
| 23:49.29 | kandarz | Ellipsis, I realize that, but after a point it just get rediculous |
| 23:49.31 | Ellipsis | Paradox_, and that's why so few people use it |
| 23:49.34 | ckknight | Paradox_: yea, they're not intrusive at all |
| 23:49.35 | Trell_ | what; i thought Scrooge was to disable pings for talent checks |
| 23:49.37 | Antiarc | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=2215842565&postId=22153035129&sid=1 are my favoritest kind of threads on the forums |
| 23:49.37 | Trell_ | and that was all |
| 23:49.38 | Ellipsis | nobody cares about the freaking buttons |
| 23:49.41 | Antiarc | Omen post in 5...4...3... |
| 23:49.43 | Ellipsis | it's just politics |
| 23:49.44 | dylanm | Thrae: It's both. |
| 23:49.45 | ckknight | Trell_: you can disable that with Rock now. |
| 23:49.49 | Trell_ | oh |
| 23:49.53 | Shadowed | not really |
| 23:49.56 | ckknight | yes, you can |
| 23:49.56 | *** join/#wowace Jorden-ED_ (n=chatzill@cpe-76-170-244-178.socal.res.rr.com) |
| 23:49.59 | zeeg | Shadowed, sounds pretty useless |
| 23:50.00 | Shadowed | you're using a hack that relies on nobody else using the same var |
| 23:50.10 | ckknight | and nobody does. |
| 23:50.13 | Ellipsis | Antiarc? that's the AV link o.O |
| 23:50.15 | Industrial | zeeg: it is useful to me |
| 23:50.17 | Shadowed | I find it quite amusing that he's adding it to a core library, where he'll basically never win in cat and mouse anyway since I can change what he checks. |
| 23:50.21 | Antiarc | Oh. Uh. |
| 23:50.41 | Industrial | I am not amused by it. |
| 23:50.41 | Trell_ | is there an addond for my laziness that auto WF's both my weapons |
| 23:50.42 | Antiarc | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=2215842621&sid=1 |
| 23:50.50 | Trell_ | and can maybe grind for me too while it does it |
| 23:50.58 | chrisapple | im not able to see any addons in the wowAceUpdater! The problem is "Data is not cached old"! is there a solution?? |
| 23:50.59 | Industrial | Trell_: blueberry waffles too |
| 23:51.15 | Industrial | chrisapple: join #wau |
| 23:51.23 | Paradox_ | Dunreith ;-; |
| 23:51.58 | Trell_ | eww blueberry waffles |
| 23:52.04 | Xinhuan | Antiarc: i don't catch the joke ;p |
| 23:52.06 | *** join/#wowace Nerr (i=Xand@cpe-74-71-198-166.twcny.res.rr.com) |
| 23:52.06 | Trell_ | cheese and worcester sauce on toast would be better |
| 23:52.09 | Trell_ | and lots of |
| 23:52.12 | Xinhuan | is there supposed to be one? |
| 23:52.13 | Nerr | Is Wowaceupdater down? |
| 23:52.18 | Dunreith | yeah |
| 23:52.19 | Industrial | Nerr: #wau |
| 23:52.29 | Nerr | ah ok |
| 23:52.42 | aestil | is xloot still being retarded? |
| 23:52.49 | Ellipsis | no u |
| 23:52.51 | AnduinLothar | sorya |
| 23:52.54 | AnduinLothar | mine is |
| 23:53.00 | AnduinLothar | but jsut the bag size |
| 23:53.24 | kandarz | only screws up on the first thing you loot |
| 23:55.22 | *** join/#wowace MuTLY (i=ircN@189.6.141.224) |
| 23:55.44 | Mecdemort | hmm i cant get WAU to load my addons for some reason |
| 23:55.53 | MuTLY | me neither |
| 23:55.58 | Trell_ | #wau |
| 23:56.04 | MuTLY | the columns are all empty |
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| 23:59.15 | Jaxon | Mecdemort: JWoWupdater can't get a listing either. Probably temporary. |
| 23:59.33 | *** join/#wowace Gothicknight (n=dougtumm@d220-236-230-17.dsl.nsw.optusnet.com.au) |
| 23:59.42 | CIA-12 | 03ckknight * r50984 10LibRock-1.0/LibRock-1.0.lua: LibRock-1.0 - add some more checks. |
