| 00:00.05 | Corgan | <3 cat and mouse |
| 00:00.56 | Gothicknight | hey i tried to load up WAU this morning, i am using Vista, windows explorer crapped itself and now WAu wont load my addons. Any else have this problem?? |
| 00:00.59 | Industrial | </3 ignorance |
| 00:01.02 | Industrial | Gothicknight: #wau |
| 00:01.31 | Gothicknight | the newest version 677 |
| 00:01.41 | Antiarc | I just had a fun idea for a mod. |
| 00:01.44 | Antiarc | A speedometer for haste. |
| 00:01.47 | Industrial | Gothicknight: join the channel #wau for wau-related questions |
| 00:02.04 | Jaxon | Antiarc: I love it. When can I expect it by. |
| 00:02.13 | Gothicknight | oh ok sry. this is my first time using IRC so i have no idea about channels :( |
| 00:02.17 | Antiarc | When someone writes it! |
| 00:02.27 | Industrial | Gothicknight: arr np just /join #wau |
| 00:02.34 | Antiarc | Or when someone pays me an obscene amount of money so I don't need a day job |
| 00:02.39 | Gothicknight | ty :) |
| 00:02.42 | Industrial | np |
| 00:02.45 | Ellipsis | Antiarc: how much would it take? |
| 00:02.56 | Gothicknight | oh any is any here developing Grid modules?? |
| 00:03.02 | Antiarc | I'd settle for, say, $65k |
| 00:03.08 | Ellipsis | hmmm.... |
| 00:03.20 | clad|sleep | so there was an addon that users could download and run if they wanted to. Part of the reason it was written is because people don't like the fact that addons are sending information without any notification that they are doing so (i.e. spyware). In order to stop the addon which removed the spyware behavior, more crap has been added to the Rock core? |
| 00:03.36 | clad|sleep | bedtime for me |
| 00:03.41 | clad|sleep | wake me up when its over.. |
| 00:03.46 | Ellipsis | ^yarly |
| 00:03.55 | NightHawkAtWork | clad|sleep: may want to plan for a long sleep |
| 00:04.16 | Ellipsis | yeah I've been considering quitting the internet |
| 00:04.25 | Industrial | Ellipsis: no! ill miss you |
| 00:04.26 | Xinhuan | clad|sleep: the addon's original purpose wasn't to remove the spyware, it was to remove donate buttons :) |
| 00:04.27 | Ellipsis | o rly? |
| 00:04.30 | Industrial | y |
| 00:04.31 | Ellipsis | you don't even like me |
| 00:04.38 | Industrial | I do I do I do! |
| 00:04.42 | zeeg | lies |
| 00:04.44 | *** join/#wowace Pheredhel (i=pheredhe@62.75.185.136) |
| 00:04.49 | NightHawkAtWork | Ellipsis: if you figure out how to quit the internet, let me know. ;) |
| 00:04.53 | clad|sleep | Xinhuan: *shrug* also of dubious "evil" or "value" |
| 00:05.02 | clad|hibernating | ^^ |
| 00:05.03 | aestil | Ellipsis: its ok, you can quit the interweb |
| 00:05.10 | Ellipsis | NightHawkAtWork: I've never really tried...I'm scared |
| 00:05.13 | Ellipsis | aestil: hold me! |
| 00:05.20 | Industrial | Nerr: the internet is a series of tubes |
| 00:05.23 | aestil | liez, you want ckk to hold you. |
| 00:05.23 | Industrial | er, Ellipsis |
| 00:05.37 | ckknight | alright, bbiab |
| 00:05.39 | Ellipsis | ok I think I can do this now |
| 00:05.48 | Trell_ | <+Antiarc> A speedometer for haste. - get on it. |
| 00:05.50 | Trell_ | now. |
| 00:05.54 | Trell_ | please :X |
| 00:05.58 | kandarz | no one can escape the series of tubes |
| 00:06.11 | Ellipsis | guys...wait...where's the off button for internet? |
| 00:06.17 | Industrial | Ellipsis: any key. |
| 00:06.24 | clad|sleep | i don't have any any key |
| 00:06.34 | Ellipsis | where??? |
| 00:06.37 | kandarz | hit the escape key |
| 00:06.39 | Antiarc | Trell_: WTB free time, PST |
| 00:06.45 | Ellipsis | it dun do nothin' |
| 00:06.48 | Industrial | kandarz: haha |
| 00:06.50 | Trell_ | you're chatting on IRC right now |
| 00:06.51 | Ellipsis | Antiarc: WTS! |
| 00:07.01 | Antiarc | I can chat on IRC and work at the same time, amazingly! |
| 00:07.02 | Trell_ | when you could be coding a speedometer for haste. |
| 00:07.04 | *** join/#wowace masanbol (n=masanbol@c-98-198-234-254.hsd1.tx.comcast.net) |
| 00:07.09 | Ellipsis | if I could literally sell my free time, I would be rich |
| 00:07.11 | Industrial | Trell_: only in your virtual reailty |
| 00:07.17 | NightHawkAtWork | Ellipsis: first, go to your circuit breakers ;) |
| 00:07.18 | Trell_ | tell your boss you can't work. you need to write a speedometer for haste. |
| 00:07.19 | Antiarc | Ellipsis: What do you think a job is? :P |
| 00:07.23 | Ellipsis | Antiarc: work |
| 00:07.30 | Ellipsis | responsibility |
| 00:07.31 | CIA-12 | 03kaelten * r50985 10Baggins_BtmScan/Baggins_BtmScan.toc: Baggins_BtmScan: changed the author's name to using regular a characters as it was breaking the rss feed. Sorry :( |
| 00:07.36 | Ellipsis | I do not get along well with that |
| 00:07.44 | Ellipsis | wow, nice catch o.O |
| 00:07.45 | NightHawkAtWork | yeah, no one really does. |
| 00:07.54 | Industrial | Kaelten: ! bottomscan? |
| 00:08.02 | Industrial | Kaelten: does it have anything to do with auctioneer? |
| 00:08.03 | masanbol | :o |
| 00:08.05 | Ellipsis | Industrial: it's a Baggins module |
| 00:08.12 | Kaelten | not mine |
| 00:08.17 | Ellipsis | $20 says it hooks into BtmScan and just filters stuff marked in there to a diff bag |
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| 00:08.25 | Industrial | Ellipsis: you are on |
| 00:08.27 | Ellipsis | so you can keep your BtmScan buys out of your main inv |
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| 00:08.54 | Industrial | ## Notes: Adds Bottom Scanner filters to Baggins |
| 00:08.56 | Industrial | I lose |
| 00:08.56 | Industrial | :, |
| 00:09.06 | Industrial | :,( :'( :,( |
| 00:09.24 | kandarz | you have to remove your long blonde wig now Industrial |
| 00:09.26 | Ellipsis | that'll be $20, Industrial |
| 00:10.00 | Industrial | Ellipsis: I dont have $20. |
| 00:10.08 | Ellipsis | that's ok, I accept camsex |
| 00:10.13 | Industrial | k msn? |
| 00:10.17 | Industrial | (;>) |
| 00:10.19 | aestil | Ellipsis: you just want to see p3nis |
| 00:10.28 | Ellipsis | sure, sec to register an msn account with my WoW gmail |
| 00:10.33 | Paradox_ | WAU fixed hurrah |
| 00:10.37 | Industrial | arrrr |
| 00:10.39 | MuTLY | yay |
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| 00:10.41 | Ellipsis | aestil: I see plenty of penis, it's Indy's that I want ;) |
| 00:10.44 | Kaelten | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:10.55 | Kaelten | he had the a with a circle over it |
| 00:11.12 | aestil | you have a penis you see plenty of Ellipsis? |
| 00:11.17 | Ellipsis | å |
| 00:11.21 | Recluse | odd first text to see upon entering lol |
| 00:11.22 | Kaelten | yep that one |
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| 00:11.24 | Ellipsis | aestil: yes, my boyfriend's |
| 00:11.28 | Arrowmaster | wtf, one of my guildmates is saying he updated Omen from http://files.wowace.com/Omen/Omen.zip and is getting an error saying Threat-1.0 cannot be found and no other errors |
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| 00:11.34 | aestil | Ellipsis: ah, yes, that clarifys my confusion. |
| 00:11.42 | NimbleRabit | hyperChipmunk: how do I make rules specific to only 1 of my characters in bulkmail? |
| 00:11.46 | Antiarc | Arrowmaster: Full WAU update |
| 00:11.53 | Antiarc | Just to rule out library conflicts/problems |
| 00:12.06 | SMELTN | anyone else having a problem with wowace not showing addons at all? |
| 00:12.07 | Arrowmaster | he doesnt use WAU |
| 00:12.22 | masanbol | Arrowmaster then that's because he doesn't have Threat 1.0 installed |
| 00:12.25 | Industrial | there, kandarz, Ellipsis is a girl |
| 00:12.39 | Arrowmaster | masanbol: threat-1.0 is embeded in omen |
| 00:12.44 | hyperChipmunk | NimbleRabit: exclude from all others but that one, i suppose |
| 00:12.46 | kandarz | Industrial, that doesn't actually confirm it, could be gay |
| 00:12.58 | Industrial | kandarz: you so buy into it :p |
| 00:13.25 | kandarz | lol wut? |
| 00:13.51 | Ellipsis | wow, MSN uses ridiculous captchas :/ |
| 00:14.29 | SMELTN | sorry anyone else having a problme with WAU not showing addons? |
| 00:14.38 | Industrial | SMELTN: #wau |
| 00:14.39 | kandarz | SMELTN: try again |
| 00:14.44 | NimbleRabit | hyperChipmunk: mmm so there's not way to change to char specific settings instead of realm? |
| 00:14.49 | Gothicknight | this might sound like a stupid question but r the ne rock libraries the update to the ACe libraries?? |
| 00:15.03 | Industrial | Gothicknight: they are not. |
| 00:15.07 | hyperChipmunk | NimbleRabit: no; it doesn't really make sense that way |
| 00:15.14 | Gothicknight | k cool. just wasnt sure |
| 00:15.29 | Industrial | Gothicknight: well they are, but ckknight split off. check the wiki. |
| 00:15.36 | NimbleRabit | hyperChipmunk: I guess not. Just wanted it for a specific situation where I need to send 50 or so items from 1 char to another and wanted to speed up the process =P |
| 00:16.03 | hyperChipmunk | add it and delete it afterward |
| 00:16.10 | Ellipsis | Industrial: what's your msn plzes |
| 00:16.19 | Arrowmaster | rofl wtf i did a full svn update earlyer yet somehow i have the lowest revision number of librock-1.0 of anybody in my raid right now |
| 00:16.40 | NimbleRabit | hyperChipmunk: more a problem of having to delete all my other rules then adding them. I'll just do it manually though, was just wondering =P |
| 00:17.29 | aestil | Ellipsis: LOL |
| 00:17.34 | Gothicknight | i have noticed that Babble spell and babble zone r 3.0. are the rest of the babble modules goin the same way or only those 2?? |
| 00:17.53 | kandarz | MSN cybs inc |
| 00:17.53 | Ellipsis | aestil: lolwut? |
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| 00:19.33 | Arrowmaster | heh i just tried to do a versionquery on libstub |
| 00:19.35 | Arrowmaster | [2007/10/04 20:18:54-2357-x1]: AceComm-2.0-49773 (Ace2):2635: attempt to call method 'GetLibraryVersion' (a nil value) |
| 00:20.56 | Industrial | Arrowmaster: this surprises you? |
| 00:21.20 | aestil | Ellipsis>Industrial: what's your msn plzes |
| 00:21.29 | aestil | PENIS TIME! |
| 00:22.01 | Industrial | and you cant join |
| 00:22.40 | aestil | i can have my own penis time. |
| 00:22.41 | kandarz | pix pls |
| 00:22.50 | aestil | cya laterz guys. |
| 00:22.53 | Ellipsis | afk, looking at Industrial's penis |
| 00:23.51 | smoke_ | is there a wowace equivilant of tradedispenser? |
| 00:24.25 | CIA-12 | 03kandarz * r50986 10EveryQuest/Everyquest.lua: EveryQuest: - IsAddonLoaded ~= IsAddOnLoaded |
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| 00:26.01 | RogueShadow | ... for a minute I thought that said EverQuest |
| 00:26.19 | kandarz | reading is so 3rd grade rite |
| 00:27.13 | SMELTN | whats a good UI comp sharing site, now that omgphatloots is gone? |
| 00:27.13 | kandarz | button to open the frame does say "EQ" tho |
| 00:27.19 | RogueShadow | Generally, only every other letter is needed to understand a word. I'ts only natural words are easily confused if they are similar. |
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| 00:30.03 | NivFreak | is there a way to cause WoW to flush it's SavedVariable files for addons? |
| 00:30.06 | Tuller | polish Polish! |
| 00:31.12 | NivFreak | I'd like to flush it to one/all to disk and run backups at various points during a raid |
| 00:31.30 | Ellipsis | the only way to make SVs save/load is to reload the UI |
| 00:31.46 | _rane | wrghm, anyone have the faintest idea why Prat gets disabled when I switch characters? I have to restart WoW for it to work again. |
| 00:31.56 | NivFreak | Ellipsis: that'd probably work |
| 00:31.59 | NivFreak | thanks |
| 00:32.13 | NivFreak | I just don't want to exit the client and/or raid group |
| 00:32.31 | Ellipsis | yeah, it just might interfere with the whole...y'know...raiding thing |
| 00:32.36 | NivFreak | well |
| 00:32.51 | NivFreak | my motivation is to backup Suicide king's SVars after people roll in |
| 00:32.56 | NivFreak | or we award loot |
| 00:33.03 | NivFreak | just for tracking purposes |
| 00:33.22 | NivFreak | so it's really N+1 |
| 00:33.24 | NivFreak | for bosses |
| 00:33.38 | NivFreak | I think reloadui will work for me |
| 00:33.47 | Ellipsis | *shrug* whatever does it for ya |
| 00:34.05 | NivFreak | well I'd rather have a less impactful way :) |
| 00:34.08 | Gothicknight | has any here that is makingthe Grid modules made a pet module yet?? |
| 00:34.29 | Ellipsis | Gothicknight: there's already a Grid with Pets... |
| 00:35.38 | Mudkipz | ... |
| 00:35.55 | Mudkipz | so I DC in durotar |
| 00:35.55 | Nandini | question: how many pet action buttons are in the pet bar (max)? |
| 00:36.00 | Ellipsis | 10 |
| 00:36.04 | Nandini | thanks |
| 00:36.10 | Ellipsis | np |
| 00:36.11 | Mudkipz | and when Iogged on, I immediately fell thru the world |
| 00:37.02 | Nandini | that has been happening to a lot of people lately Mudkipz, I saw several posts in the tech support forum |
| 00:37.24 | Nandini | it's possible the server is not correctly recording coords when clients disconnect (even by logging out in an orderly manner) |
| 00:37.59 | Nandini | only suggested solution was hearth or petition a GM to be moved |
| 00:38.14 | Mudkipz | can't even hearth |
| 00:38.21 | Mudkipz | im drifting somewhere in alterac |
| 00:38.31 | Nandini | apparently some people are falling off zeppelins and boats too when they move onto the other continenet |
| 00:38.39 | Nandini | sometimes down through the world, sometimes up above the clouds |
| 00:38.57 | Mudkipz | I was mounted ( just got off the zep to org then got DC'd on the path |
| 00:39.43 | Nandini | if you're on a low-level char and can still move, you may want to explore below the world and get some free exp :) |
| 00:40.04 | sylvanaar | _rane you have Ace2 installed and disabled |
| 00:40.09 | hyperChipmunk | you have discovered the Underunderbog! |
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| 00:41.06 | Mudkipz | now I"m somewhere in razormane grounds |
| 00:41.54 | Gothicknight | Where can i download the pet module for Grid please mate |
| 00:42.06 | Ellipsis | it's in branches last I heard |
| 00:42.23 | RogueShadow | hmm.. there is an unstick me feature... |
| 00:42.27 | RogueShadow | usually hearths u |
| 00:42.39 | Corgan | balls |
| 00:42.59 | Ellipsis | did someone say balls? |
| 00:43.09 | hyperChipmunk | yeah |
| 00:43.11 | CIA-12 | 03sylvanaar 07sylvanaar * r50987 10Prat/Refactor2/ (42 files in 5 dirs): Prat: Small test change using logical names |
| 00:43.12 | hyperChipmunk | my balls are huge |
| 00:43.18 | Ellipsis | /afk |
| 00:43.22 | RogueShadow | I got stuck in a giant tree stump in ashenvale, I got stuck behind the hammock's in Hammerfall, and I got stuck in a fireplace in the Dalaran ruins.... |
| 00:43.28 | RogueShadow | jumped in the chimney |
| 00:43.36 | Ellipsis | I got stuck behind a stuffed bear in Ironforge |
| 00:43.37 | Ellipsis | twice. |
| 00:43.51 | hyperChipmunk | i jump in the chimney by scholomance all the time =P |
| 00:43.58 | Ellipsis | that one's fun |
| 00:44.04 | hyperChipmunk | i honestly can't resist it |
| 00:44.17 | siIentium | hmm, grid with pets, sounds nice... to get addons from branches I could either manually download every single file from the httpd or get me an svn account, right? or is there a public read-only svn account for such things? |
| 00:44.20 | hyperChipmunk | i KNOW it's inescapable |
| 00:44.25 | hyperChipmunk | but i do it anyways |
| 00:44.26 | hyperChipmunk | every time |
| 00:44.48 | RogueShadow | Have you ever used unstuck me thing to get out? |
| 00:44.53 | Arrowmaster | i had to summon a guild mage out of that chimney once when he got stuck by accident |
| 00:44.55 | RogueShadow | Curious. because its' supposed to log it to be fixed |
| 00:45.01 | Xinhuan | NivFreak: you will find that recording such DKP manually is usually better than relying on an addon that can crash ;p |
| 00:45.13 | hyperChipmunk | no, because my hearth would always be up, so it'd use that anyway |
| 00:45.14 | Ellipsis | siIentium, you can anonymous download from svn.wowace.com |
| 00:45.21 | NivFreak | Xinhuan: I have logs to recreate it if it does |
| 00:45.30 | NivFreak | it just saves me the work 99% of the time |
| 00:45.32 | hyperChipmunk | you can delete it, but then you gotta go get a new one |
| 00:45.34 | Mudkipz | haha I just discovered something |
| 00:45.39 | Mudkipz | shrine of wahtever |
| 00:45.55 | Ellipsis | o.O |
| 00:45.58 | Arrowmaster | shrine of the fallen hero? |
| 00:46.03 | Arrowmaster | or warrior |
| 00:46.09 | Mudkipz | I only saw a glimpse of it :( |
| 00:46.10 | Arrowmaster | or whatever it is in the barrens |
| 00:46.10 | hyperChipmunk | no, shrine of whatever |
| 00:46.15 | hyperChipmunk | weren't you listening? |
| 00:46.16 | siIentium | Ellipsis: thank you, will check that |
| 00:46.22 | _rane | sylvanaar: thanks a lot |
| 00:46.25 | Mudkipz | map says Im near valley of heroes |
| 00:46.27 | _rane | that was it |
| 00:46.32 | Mudkipz | not heroes, trials |
| 00:46.41 | Mudkipz | orc starting area |
| 00:46.46 | Arrowmaster | oh |
| 00:46.54 | Arrowmaster | you found the first shaman quest shrine i think |
| 00:46.58 | Mudkipz | oh |
| 00:47.07 | Arrowmaster | i found that last easter on my 70 warlock |
| 00:47.18 | Arrowmaster | i never knew it was there before |
| 00:47.27 | Mudkipz | you would know if you had an orc |
| 00:47.34 | Mudkipz | not really an easter egg |
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| 00:47.40 | Arrowmaster | i am an orc |
| 00:47.51 | Mudkipz | o |
| 00:47.54 | hyperChipmunk | no, he found it during the Noblegarden egg hunt |
| 00:47.55 | Arrowmaster | but the only shaman ive ever had is spacecow |
| 00:47.56 | Mudkipz | I have a lvl 10 orc shasman :P |
| 00:48.28 | Mudkipz | slow GM is slow :( |
| 00:48.41 | Arrowmaster | i just talked to a gm |
| 00:48.53 | Arrowmaster | and now im sitting dead watching my raid kill alar |
| 00:49.08 | Arrowmaster | hes suppost to drop a new ring for me |
| 00:49.12 | Kerafyrm | smited by a gm? |
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| 00:49.36 | Arrowmaster | no smited by al'ar meteoring me then both adds deciding to attack and crit me for no reason |
| 00:49.52 | Arakasi | hi, just wondering if someone can help me and my wife with an issue with addons we've been having lately |
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| 00:50.11 | Kerafyrm | well.. you were helping your mates try to kill alar.. so there is a reason.. alar dun wanna die :P |
| 00:50.20 | Corgan | ~asktoask |
| 00:50.21 | purl | This is IRC. Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question and if someone's around, they'll be glad to help. |
| 00:50.22 | Nandini | just ask, if anyone here can help, they will :) |
| 00:50.27 | Wobwork | Thank god re: AV changes |
| 00:50.36 | Wobwork | It will finally be more fun to play AV |
| 00:50.47 | Funkeh` | Wobwork: ? |
| 00:50.49 | Arrowmaster | what did they change in AV? |
| 00:50.50 | Kerafyrm | av changes? |
| 00:50.54 | Wobwork | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=2215842565&postId=22153035129&sid=1 |
| 00:51.06 | Arrowmaster | cant open browser while running wow |
| 00:51.07 | Arakasi | okay. well the issue is that some addons aren't remembering their settings. we've had this happen on fubar with settings in the bar, dotimer, simple mini map. the settings are fine. you log out and go back in. and the settings aren't holding |
| 00:51.28 | Corgan | vista? |
| 00:51.33 | Arakasi | yeah vista |
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| 00:51.42 | Corgan | run WoW in admin mode |
| 00:51.45 | Arrowmaster | reinstall wow to someplace other than program files |
| 00:51.49 | Corgan | or move the folder somewhere |
| 00:51.50 | Corgan | yeah |
| 00:51.53 | Corgan | other than program files |
| 00:52.35 | Arakasi | we've tried running wow in admin mode.. that didn't help. we tried moving the folder out of program files. but not installing it out of program files. is there a difference between the two? |
| 00:52.42 | Jaxon | No. |
| 00:53.06 | Xinhuan | WoW does not use any registry keys |
| 00:53.08 | Arakasi | also tried changing permissons on teh folders from non read only |
| 00:53.37 | Gothicknight | I have learnt that Vista isnt the friendliest of OS's in regards to WoW :( |
| 00:53.39 | Xinhuan | it keeps track of its data by saving it all in its WoW folders, which it has difficulty doing if it is running in the \Program Files\ folder in Vista |
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| 00:54.44 | Xinhuan | actually, wow does use the registry - only for the patcher to look in there to find the installation path if the patcher doesn't find wow.exe in the current folder ;p (i think) |
| 00:54.45 | Arakasi | yeah. thing is we've tried all this and it still doesn't seem to be saving stuff.. which is odd because some mods hold settings fine and some don't. which makes little sense to me |
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| 00:55.18 | Wobwork | Vista isn't the friendliest of OS's in regards to -anything- =P |
| 00:55.32 | Nandini | Vista is very frienly to my phone :) |
| 00:55.46 | hyperChipmunk | it's friendly to MS |
| 00:55.47 | Arakasi | not really had any issues with vista other than this really |
| 00:56.09 | Xinhuan | not much to help you with, apart from what is already posted by Blues and other ppl on the tech forums |
| 00:56.32 | Nandini | it's just that vista normally prevents programs from writing to anything under \Program Files unless it's a setup or install program |
| 00:57.18 | Xinhuan | just install all your games to some place like E:\Games\ lol |
| 00:57.19 | Nandini | most Vista systems have User Account Control turned on, so even people who are Administrators have to confirm any changes to files under that folder |
| 00:57.20 | Xinhuan | and you should be fine |
| 00:57.23 | CIA-12 | 03sayclub * r50988 10cyCircled/locale/koKR.lua: |
| 00:57.23 | CIA-12 | cyCircled: |
| 00:57.23 | CIA-12 | - Updated localization koKR |
| 00:59.40 | Arakasi | alright. well i'm goign to uninstall wow.. and reinstall it to the c drive instead of program files . or just make a folder under the c drive and install it to that |
| 01:00.03 | Nandini | installing to C:\World of Warcraft would probably be your best bet, as someone already mentioned |
| 01:00.04 | Xinhuan | C:\Games\World of Warcraft\ would be fine |
| 01:00.18 | Nandini | or Games if you have more than one to keep track of :) |
| 01:00.56 | Nandini | hmm I don't really like those proposed AV changes |
| 01:01.06 | Xinhuan | what proposed AV changes? |
| 01:01.15 | Nandini | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=2215842565&postId=22153035129&sid=1 |
| 01:02.03 | Nandini | i kind of like having the lieutenants and commanders |
| 01:02.19 | Xinhuan | hmm |
| 01:02.39 | Nandini | the graveyard change is a good idea (only rez in the cave if you control NO graveyards) |
| 01:03.36 | Nandini | i guess it will be nice to have fewer elites in the keeps, although that probably benefits horde more than alliance, as you can just walk right past most of the elites at frostwolf |
| 01:04.19 | hyperChipmunk | those are excellent changes |
| 01:04.46 | hyperChipmunk | zergfest ftl |
| 01:04.56 | Nandini | i wonder how the "reinforcements" thing will actually play out |
| 01:05.31 | Nandini | i read it carefully a couple times and i'm still not exactly sure how it will work |
| 01:05.40 | hyperChipmunk | it's just a counter |
| 01:05.51 | hyperChipmunk | a combined life total |
| 01:06.02 | Nandini | player death = lose reinforcement, captain death = lose many reinforcements, lose all reinforcements = game over |
| 01:06.04 | hyperChipmunk | everytime you die, your team life gets drained |
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| 01:06.19 | Nandini | so it's no longer necessary to kill the general to win |
| 01:06.31 | hyperChipmunk | everytime a key objective is lost, your team life gets drained significantly |
| 01:06.42 | Nandini | it could be done by simply racking up more HKs than your opponent |
| 01:06.58 | hyperChipmunk | when you have no life left, ideally the next deaths will be permanent until none are left, but it looks like they're just gonna end it |
| 01:07.24 | Wobwork | It'll make it more of a battleground |
| 01:07.27 | hyperChipmunk | could be very interesting with both teams nursing their last couple reinforcements |
| 01:07.32 | Wobwork | instead of a bosskill |
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| 01:07.55 | Nandini | yes it takes most of the PvE aspect out of AV, but that's sort of what made it unique before |
| 01:08.01 | hyperChipmunk | and now there's extra incentive for defense |
| 01:08.16 | Wobwork | Nandini: well, the zergfest, while fun the first few times, got a bit boring =( |
| 01:08.16 | Xinhuan | so reinforcements are "NPC counts"? |
| 01:08.17 | hyperChipmunk | you don't lose as many reinforcements defending |
| 01:08.18 | Nandini | yes, real defense and not just people dying repeatedly to slow down the opponent |
| 01:08.19 | hyperChipmunk | no |
| 01:08.23 | hyperChipmunk | they're team life counts |
| 01:08.32 | hyperChipmunk | they don't correspond to npcs |
| 01:08.38 | Xinhuan | so if a player dies, a reinforcement is lost? |
| 01:08.41 | hyperChipmunk | right |
| 01:08.44 | hyperChipmunk | it's just a counter |
| 01:08.49 | hyperChipmunk | think of it as a health bar |
| 01:08.49 | Nandini | it would be like points counting down, instead of points counting up in other BGs |
| 01:08.50 | Xinhuan | i can make my team lose by dying repeatedly on purpose? |
| 01:08.55 | Wobwork | AV starts! Runrunrunrunrun waveatoppositefactioninpassing runrunrunrun killboss |
| 01:09.00 | hyperChipmunk | yes |
| 01:09.09 | hyperChipmunk | unless suicides don't count |
| 01:09.19 | Xinhuan | i can just run into an enemy player |
| 01:09.21 | hyperChipmunk | there must be some limiters in place |
| 01:09.23 | Nandini | i think it would be hard for them to determine what's a suicide |
| 01:09.27 | Xinhuan | and not retaliate as he kills me |
| 01:09.35 | hyperChipmunk | actually, there are limiters |
| 01:09.51 | hyperChipmunk | you just need to extend the rez timer to also prevent npc rezzing |
| 01:10.00 | Xinhuan | Blizzard didn't really release details, just looks like they posted general changes as a whole |
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| 01:10.27 | Nandini | i will miss my old AV :( |
| 01:10.41 | Xinhuan | 2.3 looks like its going to be a really big patch with guildbanks, zulaman, sweeping class changes, AV big changes, and other stuff |
| 01:10.44 | hyperChipmunk | if the spirit rez won't rez you when you have rez cooldown, then someone who suicides a bunch will suddenly be sitting for 5m at a time |
| 01:10.53 | hyperChipmunk | ofc they'd have to tweak the timer some |
| 01:11.01 | helget | Trying to convert a friend to ace, but he has problems with WAU.. Whatever he does the avilable addon's won't appear (just a blank field). He's pushing the "Refresh Index" button 100 times. Status says data is not cached old - what's wrong? |
| 01:11.23 | hyperChipmunk | helget: nobody's been getting anything this evening |
| 01:11.27 | Nandini | has he set the WoW folder correctly, helget? |
| 01:11.30 | Xinhuan | other UI additions too, like /targetexact, AH entire downloading with a command, mail attachments up to 12 items, etc |
| 01:11.36 | helget | hyperChipmunk: oh |
| 01:11.38 | helget | Nandini: I dunno |
| 01:11.40 | hyperChipmunk | i think they're in #wau |
| 01:11.46 | Ellipsis | Xinhuan - sweeping class changes? |
| 01:12.00 | Wobwork | hm. So if the opposing faction controls all the graveyards near your end, you'll respawn halfway down the BG instead of in the cave? |
| 01:12.02 | Ellipsis | all my class has gotten is a reduced cast time on ritual of souls and inability to cast banish on tapped targets. |
| 01:12.04 | Xinhuan | Ellipsis: they are changing a lot of talents and skill/spells of almost every class |
| 01:12.04 | helget | so WAU is bugged today hyperChipmunk ? |
| 01:12.08 | Nandini | WAU 1.9.44.677 is working just fine for me |
| 01:12.16 | Nandini | i was able to get the index just fine now |
| 01:12.17 | Ellipsis | Xinhuan: *almost* every class, maybe |
| 01:12.20 | hyperChipmunk | ah |
| 01:12.23 | Ellipsis | I didn't read notes for other classes |
| 01:12.31 | Ellipsis | but mine sure hasn't gotten anything |
| 01:12.32 | Xinhuan | the priest changes are quite LOL |
| 01:12.32 | hyperChipmunk | then it must be fixed =) |
| 01:12.34 | Xinhuan | fear ward for all |
| 01:12.47 | *** part/#wowace nogudnik (n=nogudnik@mail.exiter.com) |
| 01:12.54 | Xinhuan | and dranei/dwarf gets a pvp buff with a 2 sec incapacitate skill |
| 01:13.14 | hyperChipmunk | helget: you'll have to get help from someone who uses WAU then =) |
| 01:13.15 | hyperChipmunk | sorry |
| 01:13.24 | Xinhuan | frost/fire gets a buff in 2.3 as well with removal of damage coefficient from talents |
| 01:13.32 | Xinhuan | 1/3 of +healing will count towards +damage, etc |
| 01:13.34 | Wobwork | I wonder what the cooldown for castigate is |
| 01:13.35 | Xinhuan | big sweeping changes |
| 01:13.48 | Ellipsis | WTB big sweeping changes for me too plz |
| 01:13.49 | Nandini | helget: first thing to check Edit > Preferences > WoW Install Directory is set correctly |
| 01:13.52 | Xinhuan | at least your resto druids won't die anymore on Leotheras lolz |
| 01:14.03 | helget | Nandini: It was he says |
| 01:14.18 | Nandini | helget: does he see the banner ad at the bottom of the window? |
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| 01:14.24 | helget | I'll ask |
| 01:14.39 | Xinhuan | i reality, i see all these changes as Buffing the players to a point SSC/TK is easily doable |
| 01:14.52 | Ellipsis | what changes dammit! |
| 01:14.54 | Xinhuan | instead of blizzard normally just nerfing raid instances over time |
| 01:14.54 | Ellipsis | =[ |
| 01:15.10 | Xinhuan | so that "casuals" can enter BT/Hyjal |
| 01:15.16 | Necrathex | any good inspect addons out there? voyeur sucks |
| 01:15.20 | Nandini | i think they want more ppl to have experienced some of the high-end raid content before WotLK comes out, so they don't feel they've missed out |
| 01:15.41 | Nandini | i.e., give them some reason to keep their subscriptions paid until then :P |
| 01:16.00 | Wobwork | what, like how they missed out on thingie in the last version? |
| 01:16.03 | rob` | it'd be nice to have more fights that didn't require 15 minutes of explanation before a 10 second wipe on the first try.:) |
| 01:16.04 | Xinhuan | whats that new title called? Champion of the Naaru? |
| 01:16.07 | Nandini | buffing everyone will help keep hard-core raiders from complaining that raid instances got nerfed |
| 01:16.09 | Wobwork | whatchamacallit |
| 01:16.14 | Wobwork | N-thingie |
| 01:16.17 | Wobwork | blah |
| 01:16.23 | Ellipsis | yeah Xinhuan |
| 01:16.25 | Wobwork | Xinhuan: yes |
| 01:16.31 | Xinhuan | sounds so dumb |
| 01:16.32 | Ellipsis | naxx Wobwork? |
| 01:16.36 | Dezzimal | I like how I put closetgnome on standby |
| 01:16.37 | Wobwork | That's the bunny |
| 01:16.41 | Dezzimal | but it still fucks with my outfits |
| 01:16.43 | Xinhuan | Champion of the Naaru Wobwork |
| 01:16.52 | Xinhuan | its like a tongue twister |
| 01:17.05 | Nandini | Champion of the Naaru is from completing the old SSC/TK attunement quests? |
| 01:17.09 | Wobwork | It doesn't work well as a joke |
| 01:17.16 | Xinhuan | ;p |
| 01:17.27 | Wobwork | like how there was one guy I know who pvp'd for the 'Private' title |
| 01:17.30 | Xinhuan | TK attunement quest Nandini |
| 01:17.33 | Xinhuan | not SSC one |
| 01:17.33 | Wobwork | so he could be Private Parts |
| 01:17.53 | Nandini | I pvp'ed for the Conqueror title :) |
| 01:17.55 | Jaxon | Necrathex: I use Examiner |
| 01:17.55 | Xinhuan | remember the old pvp title called "Commander"? Rank 11 i think? |
| 01:18.02 | helget | yes Nandini he does :P |
| 01:18.09 | Necrathex | Jaxon: cool, thank you :) |
| 01:18.17 | *** join/#wowace sztanpet (n=sztanpet@84.236.88.142) |
| 01:18.20 | Xinhuan | I told someone to "Report your name, get a name change. Change your name to Keen, so you can be Commander Keen" |
| 01:18.39 | sztanpet | hi thar |
| 01:18.41 | Nandini | hmm helget, if he types http://files.wowace.com/ in his web browser, does he get the file listing? |
| 01:19.09 | helget | yes Nandini |
| 01:19.26 | Nandini | is he using version 1.9.44.677 ? |
| 01:19.55 | Mr_Rabies2 | Xinhuan |
| 01:20.04 | Mr_Rabies2 | similarly, i knew a "Private Parts" |
| 01:20.12 | Mr_Rabies2 | and a "Private Private" |
| 01:20.14 | helget | no he does not. :) .655 |
| 01:20.29 | Xinhuan | hehe |
| 01:20.30 | helget | though I thought it updated itself |
| 01:20.33 | Mr_Rabies2 | <+Wobwork> so he could be Private Parts |
| 01:20.36 | Mr_Rabies2 | i totally missed that |
| 01:20.37 | Wobwork | There's also "Private Joke" |
| 01:20.46 | Mr_Rabies2 | but i knew a "private parts" |
| 01:20.50 | Mr_Rabies2 | he named himself before ranks came out |
| 01:20.52 | Wobwork | he made his own guild "Really Funny" |
| 01:20.59 | Xinhuan | hahha |
| 01:21.04 | Nandini | helget: have him remove WAU from Control Panel > Add/Remove Programs, then reinstall it from the WAU web page |
| 01:21.06 | Xinhuan | Private Joke <Really Funny> |
| 01:21.08 | hyperChipmunk | lol |
| 01:21.42 | Ellipsis | I want a guiild named Dot Dot Dot =[ |
| 01:21.44 | hyperChipmunk | it's Very Funny |
| 01:21.51 | Wobwork | Ellipsis: Can't do it? |
| 01:21.51 | Mr_Rabies2 | there's a guild called <Key> on my server |
| 01:21.56 | hyperChipmunk | http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Argent+Dawn&n=Joke |
| 01:22.06 | helget | thanks for your help Nandini |
| 01:22.17 | Nandini | helget: no guarantees that will work, but it's a good place to start |
| 01:22.18 | Wobwork | aha, very funny =) |
| 01:22.19 | CIA-12 | 03ackis * r50989 10AckisRecipeList/ (. AckisRecipeList.toc embeds.xml): |
| 01:22.19 | CIA-12 | AckisRecipeList: |
| 01:22.19 | CIA-12 | - Updated externals |
| 01:22.19 | CIA-12 | - No idea why I need to add LibRock, as it's a dependency of a dependency but it'll fix things |
| 01:22.24 | Ellipsis | Wobwork: trying to raid now so not really :P |
| 01:22.36 | Mr_Rabies2 | http://www.wowarmory.com/guild-info.xml?r=Llane&n=Key&p=1 |
| 01:22.38 | Mr_Rabies2 | there's Key |
| 01:22.43 | Mr_Rabies2 | look at the member list |
| 01:22.56 | Wobwork | hehe Eny Key |
| 01:22.57 | Ellipsis | rofl |
| 01:23.00 | Ellipsis | that's great |
| 01:23.00 | Mr_Rabies2 | i dunno why the hell there's a Dingo |
| 01:23.01 | Mr_Rabies2 | but whatever |
| 01:23.26 | Fin | hyperChipmunk: that, that is class |
| 01:23.26 | Nandini | i used to PvP all the time with a hunter friend (i am a feral druid), his name was Petri, we made a guild called Petri's Pet |
| 01:24.02 | yssaril | whats this scrooge thing cknight is "fixing" |
| 01:24.16 | sztanpet | yea i wanted to ask that too |
| 01:24.42 | sztanpet | just to block donation links? why is that an issue |
| 01:24.48 | hyperChipmunk | hah |
| 01:24.56 | Nandini | probably an addon that hooks all ace2 functions and renders them useless |
| 01:25.20 | Nandini | ooh did i say that out loud |
| 01:25.23 | hyperChipmunk | Axx Key |
| 01:25.37 | Wobwork | 'X'? |
| 01:25.55 | hyperChipmunk | no, that's Ecks |
| 01:25.58 | hyperChipmunk | ASCII |
| 01:26.06 | Wobwork | oh =) |
| 01:26.22 | Wobwork | Ass probably would have been banned =P |
| 01:26.26 | hyperChipmunk | best one is Dingo |
| 01:26.46 | Wobwork | Can't figure out that one =P |
| 01:27.01 | hyperChipmunk | reading down the list, I'm thinking, "heh...heh...heh.../snicker...heh...wtf dingo?" |
| 01:27.21 | Corgan | Mr_Rabies2 |
| 01:27.27 | Corgan | I saw a gnome called |
| 01:27.30 | hyperChipmunk | it's the only one that doesn't follow the convention |
| 01:27.30 | Corgan | Private Parts |
| 01:27.33 | hyperChipmunk | and it's a funny word |
| 01:27.33 | Corgan | <In your face> |
| 01:27.36 | Mr_Rabies2 | rofl |
| 01:27.38 | Mr_Rabies2 | hahaha |
| 01:27.39 | Wobwork | hehe |
| 01:27.40 | Ellipsis | hyperChipmunk, you are easily amused |
| 01:27.57 | hyperChipmunk | Ellipsis: ha! funny! |
| 01:28.00 | Wobwork | Although if Dingo was in <Ate My Baby> I'd be more amused |
| 01:28.01 | Ellipsis | ...yeah |
| 01:28.07 | hyperChipmunk | hehe |
| 01:28.39 | Xinhuan | yssaril: Scrooge is an addon that kills the Donation buttons/links in Ace2/Rock. ckknight worksaround it by changing code, Scrooge responds in a cat/mouse game |
| 01:28.52 | yssaril | ahhh |
| 01:28.57 | Wobwork | It's like that game, MouseTrap |
| 01:29.01 | Wobwork | but with code |
| 01:29.11 | Jaxon | Wait. The only time I've seen anything donation related is in an about dialog. |
| 01:29.22 | Ellipsis | that's the stuff |
| 01:29.40 | Fin | does anyone else have a guild on their server called <Beep Beep I'm a Jeep>? |
| 01:29.52 | Xinhuan | Jaxon: you'll notice a Donate button in some Dropdown menus, or a Donate button in Rock Config for some addons/Rock itself |
| 01:29.59 | Xinhuan | those buttons are non-intrusive basically |
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| 01:30.27 | Xinhuan | Fin: yes, mine |
| 01:30.43 | Xinhuan | <BEEP BEEP I'M A JEEP LAWLZ> |
| 01:31.01 | Wobwork | <OMG KITTENS MEWMEWMEW> |
| 01:31.01 | Fin | that's a bit of an obscure one |
| 01:31.27 | Xinhuan | i once saw this guild name that has \n in it |
| 01:31.34 | Xinhuan | so that when it is rendered in game |
| 01:31.35 | Wobwork | The asciibunny guild? |
| 01:31.38 | Xinhuan | it spans across 4 lines |
| 01:31.42 | Xinhuan | yes the ASCII bunny one |
| 01:31.44 | Wobwork | best guildname ever |
| 01:31.48 | Ellipsis | argh |
| 01:31.50 | Wobwork | I still can't figure out how they did it |
| 01:32.10 | Ellipsis | is there any way to make the armory stop doing exact match searches |
| 01:32.16 | Xinhuan | Ellipsis: no |
| 01:32.17 | yssaril | Wobwork: did blizard fix it maybe so you cant do it anymore? |
| 01:32.22 | Ellipsis | but it used to :( |
| 01:32.32 | Xinhuan | they changed it to reduce load i bet |
| 01:32.34 | Wobwork | yssaril: =( |
| 01:34.41 | Jaxon | Xinhuan: well, considering how much I play this game and screw around with addons, the fact I haven't noticed makes them pretty useless. Where is this addon so I can firebomb something. |
| 01:34.43 | kandarz | they could reduce load in other ways |
| 01:34.58 | Xinhuan | Jaxon: it is called !Scrooge at the moment |
| 01:35.37 | Wobwork | I honestly don't see why ckk is bothering with it, tbh |
| 01:35.44 | Wobwork | It's an addon =P |
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| 01:35.57 | Wobwork | It's not like the core api is doing that stuff |
| 01:35.57 | Tinyboom | just a question; why allow that addon, which creates more drama, just because Shadowed wants to be an ass?(scroge that is) I don't see the point... for me it looks like Shadowed is making his addon just to make hell, I mean, who cares about the bloody donate button which you see maybe once every week maybe... |
| 01:35.58 | Fin | jes gosh jaxon, a guild's success index is surely based on your login time |
| 01:35.59 | Fin | pff |
| 01:36.18 | Shadowed | And why see it if you don't have to? |
| 01:36.24 | Wobwork | It's an addon |
| 01:36.28 | Fin | allow? YOU VIL NOT BE DOING ZE ADDON JA! |
| 01:36.35 | Wobwork | if you don't want the functionality... you... don't... use... it... |
| 01:36.46 | Shadowed | Infact, why add code to specifically disable it into a core library so you can screw 10 people |
| 01:36.51 | Fin | I protest in the strongest possible terms! |
| 01:36.54 | Wobwork | why modify a core framework to deal with a single addon that most people won't use? |
| 01:36.56 | Tinyboom | Shadowed: why the need to publish it? attention seeking? :p |
| 01:36.57 | hyperChipmunk | Tinyboom: he was making his addon at the request of his user; ckk fanned the flames by deliberately freezing WoW if Scrooge was installed |
| 01:37.09 | Shadowed | hyperChipmunk summed it up nicely |
| 01:37.22 | Fin | "fanned the flames"? jesus that's a bit nasty |
| 01:37.27 | Tinyboom | hyperChipmunk: kk, haven't seen the whole story, only the drama:p |
| 01:37.29 | Xinhuan | making the addon in the first place is kinda of a low blow imo |
| 01:37.37 | hyperChipmunk | deliberately crashing wow means the gloves kinda came off |
| 01:37.40 | Mr_Rabies2 | this drama is delicious |
| 01:37.45 | Wobwork | If anything, ckk is making more drama by doing something about it in a arena that has a larger scope than Scrooge ever will |
| 01:37.47 | Jaxon | Fin: I mostly sit around in org and /emote at people, but I suppose guild success important too? ALSO I LIKE TO FISH. |
| 01:37.50 | Shadowed | yea |
| 01:37.56 | Shadowed | scrooge got free advertising because of this |
| 01:37.57 | hyperChipmunk | and popcorn popping and hot dog grilling ensued soon after |
| 01:38.08 | Fin | this is totally awesome |
| 01:38.10 | Tinyboom | I still feel that it's a waste of time that could be spent otherwise... |
| 01:38.15 | Xinhuan | ~popcorn |
| 01:38.20 | Wobwork | Tinyboom: like... WoW? =) |
| 01:38.26 | hyperChipmunk | oh, and some wafflemaking because Antiarc didn't have any popcorn |
| 01:38.27 | Wobwork | That's not a waste of time now! |
| 01:39.06 | Wobwork | I mean, how many of you knew about Scrooge before ckk made the changes? |
| 01:39.15 | Xinhuan | purl, popcorn is <reply>Mmmm, I like E-drama! |
| 01:39.15 | purl | okay, Xinhuan |
| 01:39.19 | Xinhuan | ~popcorn |
| 01:39.20 | purl | Mmmm, I like E-drama! |
| 01:39.24 | sztanpet | i always look at the new addons so i noticed it |
| 01:39.31 | Fin | perhaps you could make the addon more personal also |
| 01:39.32 | Wobwork | and out of you that heard of it through the changes, how many would have installed it? |
| 01:39.40 | Fin | maybe /ignore a certain list of players by default |
| 01:39.48 | Fin | or uhm whisper them or something |
| 01:39.57 | Wobwork | Fin: I shall ignore anyone that is a boomkin =P |
| 01:40.03 | Fin | ja! |
| 01:40.04 | Wobwork | Thank god Rock allows for that |
| 01:40.12 | Fin | rock on! |
| 01:40.35 | Fin | I would've called the mod Paper though |
| 01:40.37 | Tinyboom | Wobwork: not installed it as I deem it more useless than my jumpcounter:p |
| 01:40.44 | Wobwork | exactly |
| 01:40.51 | Fin | dude! |
| 01:40.56 | Fin | my jumpcounter's over 10,000 now |
| 01:40.57 | Xinhuan | Tinyboom: what is your JPM? :)) |
| 01:41.02 | Wobwork | although jumping is proven to improve your acrobatic ability! |
| 01:41.13 | Xinhuan | that addon needs a Jumps Per Minute display imo |
| 01:41.29 | Tinyboom | Xinhuan: 86113 ^^ |
| 01:41.38 | Fin | ["counter"] = 10174, |
| 01:41.41 | Xinhuan | can save a datestamp on installation |
| 01:41.55 | Fin | I am but a mere peon walking in the shade of Jump Giants |
| 01:41.55 | Xinhuan | and then deduct /played from the installation date to /played currently |
| 01:41.56 | Xinhuan | ;p |
| 01:42.17 | Xinhuan | for a JPM count! |
| 01:42.24 | hyperChipmunk | i've already started writing an addon using Ace2 that colors player names based on spec |
| 01:42.34 | hyperChipmunk | it embeds rock for talent pointz info |
| 01:42.44 | Shadowed | hyperChipmunk don't make me kill that addon! |
| 01:42.48 | Xinhuan | colors player names? |
| 01:42.57 | Xinhuan | how would it colour a shadow priest from a holy one? |
| 01:42.57 | Ellipsis | omg, spec-ism |
| 01:43.08 | Fin | specism |
| 01:43.08 | hyperChipmunk | dark white |
| 01:43.10 | Xinhuan | and would it use Tattle data? |
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| 01:43.17 | Ellipsis | lol? dark white huh |
| 01:43.23 | hyperChipmunk | no, it uses rock |
| 01:43.29 | Fin | paper, scissors |
| 01:43.32 | Ellipsis | IMO it should just do color coding into 4 groups |
| 01:43.35 | rob` | can an addon erally tell spec in-game? |
| 01:43.41 | hyperChipmunk | rock does! |
| 01:43.42 | Fin | magic! |
| 01:43.46 | Xinhuan | yeah but i'm saying would it use tattle data if available to supplement RockComm if target doesn't use Rock? |
| 01:43.47 | Fin | it's solid |
| 01:43.53 | Ellipsis | white for healers, red for dps, blue for tanks, and pink for buffbo-- I mean pallies. |
| 01:43.55 | rob` | O_o guessing based on gear i guess? |
| 01:43.57 | Fin | ~o/ solid as a rock! /o~ |
| 01:44.05 | hyperChipmunk | Xinhuan: i'm pretty sure you completely missed the joke |
| 01:44.14 | Xinhuan | o_O |
| 01:44.18 | Shadowed | how hard is it to intergrade Tattle data anyway, I need to add support for it to SSPVP |
| 01:44.23 | hyperChipmunk | rob`: no, it secretly sends your talent info to anyone else that has a rock addon |
| 01:44.36 | rob` | ew |
| 01:44.51 | rob` | That must be causing quite the shitstorm. |
| 01:44.54 | Fin | this is like, explostiontastic |
| 01:45.01 | Fin | boom city |
| 01:45.09 | Fin | flamefest 2k7 |
| 01:45.23 | hyperChipmunk | like you wouldn't believe >8) |
| 01:45.25 | Fin | dramaville on the prairie |
| 01:45.26 | yssaril | Shadowed: problem is tattle data is only available for the top 5000 arena team members |
| 01:45.26 | Recluse | it's nothing they couldn't get on armory to see for themselves |
| 01:45.43 | hyperChipmunk | good; let them get it on the armory |
| 01:45.48 | silentium | rob`: there is an option to not send your talent data, but if you dont expect such a "feature" to be in your cartographer/fubar/whatever, you probably wont look for it in the first place... |
| 01:46.02 | Xinhuan | ckknight actually said earlier he uses a Blizzard savedvar to save that "talent sharing" preference |
| 01:46.14 | Fin | eh? |
| 01:46.26 | Xinhuan | which is how it will remember that preference even if Rock is embedded |
| 01:46.40 | hyperChipmunk | wtf seriously? |
| 01:46.47 | Xinhuan | _G.TALENT_FRAME_WAS_SHOWN to be exact |
| 01:46.50 | hyperChipmunk | dude, what's his problem |
| 01:46.51 | Shadowed | yssaril if you're not fighting the top 5k arena team members, you suck and don't need the data |
| 01:46.58 | Xinhuan | [10/5 07:42:46] <@ckknight> Shadowed: it messes with _G.TALENT_FRAME_WAS_SHOWN |
| 01:46.59 | Shadowed | and it's for the arena frames |
| 01:46.59 | rob` | I can see that. It violates the rule of unexpected behaviour. I don't really care what people see about my character - hell, I'm a prot paladin, WORD UP PALLY BROTHER HOMIES, FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT RAWR. But addons shouldn't do things they're not supposed to. |
| 01:47.03 | Xinhuan | [10/5 07:43:22] <@ckknight> which is almost always 1 (except on initial login), and doesn't hurt by changing it |
| 01:47.16 | Jaxon | What is the big deal, Talent info is on Armory. |
| 01:47.20 | Xinhuan | [10/5 07:43:33] <@ckknight> Shadowed: because Blizzard removed RegisterForSave? |
| 01:47.20 | Xinhuan | [10/5 07:43:41] <@ckknight> so for libraries to save state, they have to use hacks |
| 01:47.26 | Shadowed | damn you Xinhuan for pinging me |
| 01:47.30 | yssaril | Shadowed: ahh lol nm then :) |
| 01:47.38 | Xinhuan | you are clearly not afk from IRC ;p |
| 01:47.40 | Wobwork | Mmm |
| 01:47.42 | Wobwork | Hack |
| 01:47.44 | Shadowed | whatever i still hate you! |
| 01:47.47 | Wobwork | (And that's -never- good!) |
| 01:47.51 | Shadowed | I'm not even sure what uses TALENT_FRAME_WAS_SHOWN, I think it maybe used for reloading or something? |
| 01:47.55 | hyperChipmunk | rob`: yeah, that's about the gist; where have you been the last two days O_o |
| 01:48.05 | rob` | Working full-time at a new job. :) |
| 01:48.11 | Wobwork | congrats =) |
| 01:48.30 | rob` | adjusting to a new sleep schedule doesn't give one much time for WoW; I barely got in time for Magtheridon yesterday :) |
| 01:48.59 | hyperChipmunk | there may not be time for WoW, but there's always time for WoW dramaz! |
| 01:49.21 | rob` | hella! Let's get some craiglist bimbos in selling their bodiez for epic mounts! |
| 01:49.32 | Fin | got one |
| 01:49.36 | Wobwork | I bet she wasn't an epic mount =( |
| 01:49.40 | Fin | she's my own personal slutwhore |
| 01:49.43 | Fin | it's great! |
| 01:49.45 | rob` | excellent |
| 01:49.48 | Fin | got myself one of those little chinese guys too |
| 01:49.51 | Fin | cheap as chips |
| 01:49.54 | Wobwork | Is she a "very fast ride"? |
| 01:50.16 | rob` | Fin: In the basement leveling your alt for table scraps? |
| 01:50.16 | Fin | no, but she'll let me do anything I want to her outside of raid hours |
| 01:50.34 | Fin | rob`: yeah! you can get them mail order off ebay, well worth the money |
| 01:50.48 | Fin | +2 poitns to Wobwork |
| 01:50.53 | Fin | s/tn/nt/ |
| 01:51.07 | Shadowed | hmm i wonder what uses TALENT_FRAME_WAS_SHOWN |
| 01:51.25 | Shadowed | oh |
| 01:51.28 | Fin | Rock |
| 01:51.33 | hyperChipmunk | nothing important! |
| 01:51.38 | Shadowed | It's used so when you gain a level, the talent button flashes |
| 01:51.46 | Shadowed | until you open it |
| 01:51.57 | Fin | heheh - ckknight's certainly rocking the boat! |
| 01:52.06 | Kody- | nice one |
| 01:52.06 | hyperChipmunk | users don't want that anyway |
| 01:52.07 | Xinhuan | heh |
| 01:52.09 | Ellipsis | ~fail Fin |
| 01:52.10 | purl | Fin: Fail. |
| 01:52.10 | Shadowed | lol |
| 01:52.10 | Wobwork | >< |
| 01:52.13 | Fin | boom! |
| 01:52.13 | Wobwork | You'd be surprised |
| 01:52.14 | hyperChipmunk | they want their talents shared more |
| 01:52.22 | Shadowed | as long as you aren't leveling, it doesn't matter!\ |
| 01:52.28 | Wobwork | There was one rogue I knew that hadn't assigned his talent info at 55 |
| 01:52.31 | Shadowed | lol |
| 01:52.32 | Recluse | i like mine shared, and i like others sharing |
| 01:52.40 | Shadowed | sharing is good |
| 01:52.47 | Xinhuan | i don't think half the players even have the talent button shown |
| 01:52.50 | Wobwork | as long as it's consensual =P |
| 01:52.51 | Shadowed | In terms of conflict with other addons, I dobut there would be many |
| 01:52.56 | Xinhuan | assuming the customize their UI |
| 01:52.57 | Shadowed | doubt* |
| 01:52.57 | Fin | users who want to use the addon but don't like the hidden features are really stuck with between a rock and a hard place! |
| 01:53.06 | hyperChipmunk | nobody's debating that; the drama is over whether you're obligated to let the user make that decision for themselves |
| 01:53.08 | Shadowed | ~lart Fin |
| 01:53.08 | purl | pours hot grits down the front of Fin's pants |
| 01:53.13 | Xinhuan | they* |
| 01:53.15 | Wobwork | Fin: All of those puns have been run into the ground =P |
| 01:53.16 | Recluse | menu bar and bag bar are not visible for me, no need for 'em XD |
| 01:53.24 | Shadowed | I play with a mostly default UI =p |
| 01:53.27 | Fin | Wobwork: no! more! dead horse must die! |
| 01:53.38 | Wobwork | Fin: Don't make this a Seinfield episode =P |
| 01:53.55 | Fin | you say that like Seinfeld isn't the most awesome thing in the whole world ever |
| 01:54.07 | Wobwork | Yes! |
| 01:54.16 | Fin | now, we fight! |
| 01:54.19 | Fin | en guarde! |
| 01:54.24 | Recluse | that rogue @ 55 might have just unlearned his talents and researching a new one to use? |
| 01:54.34 | Wobwork | Seinfield mastered the art of taking a lame joke, running it into the ground, then digging it up and jumping on it a few times |
| 01:54.46 | Wobwork | Recluse: No. He literally did not know about talents |
| 01:55.05 | Wobwork | Welcome to eBay toons =P |
| 01:55.06 | hyperChipmunk | i think every server has one of those |
| 01:55.17 | Recluse | well, i did meet a level 60 who did not know how to leave ironforge |
| 01:55.28 | Corgan | . |
| 01:55.30 | Fin | .. |
| 01:55.30 | Wobwork | was it a mage? |
| 01:55.33 | Fin | ... |
| 01:55.35 | Fin | .... BOOM |
| 01:55.36 | hyperChipmunk | in EQ it was wizards who didn't specialize |
| 01:55.36 | Xinhuan | that's pretty hard to imagine, considering a "tooltip" or "newbie" guide popups on first learning talents |
| 01:55.48 | Wobwork | Xinhuan: welcome to eBay toon |
| 01:55.55 | Ellipsis | level 60 warlock asked me how to get those "shard thingies" once |
| 01:56.01 | Xinhuan | i do know there are ppl who didn't spend their talent points because they didn't know they can respec |
| 01:56.02 | Recluse | nelf warrior, no mage XD 'sides they woulda had to come in at one point to get the tele/port/al trained |
| 01:56.07 | Xinhuan | most other MMOs don't allow respeccing |
| 01:56.12 | Xinhuan | and points spent are permanent |
| 01:56.21 | Wobwork | Recluse: They could have been ported in |
| 01:56.39 | Codayus | I know of a hunter who meleed to 70. His ranged skillws were all 1. :) |
| 01:56.41 | Recluse | it's just sad that there are people like that out there |
| 01:56.42 | so2 | I meet a level 44 hunter who was wearing all white items. When we were leveling, green mail items dropped, and I passed to him. He always claimed he had better items already, because the armor on his white gear was higher. |
| 01:56.46 | Wobwork | I know I got myself ported to Darn for that reason |
| 01:56.48 | Wobwork | ahaha munter =P |
| 01:56.52 | Xinhuan | i know of a guy who lvled to 70 buttnaked |
| 01:56.59 | Xinhuan | :) |
| 01:57.01 | Recluse | lol |
| 01:57.03 | Codayus | (It was a personal challenge though; he just wanted to see if it could be done.) |
| 01:57.27 | Necrathex | what class? |
| 01:57.30 | Wobwork | no weapons? |
| 01:57.34 | hyperChipmunk | it can |
| 01:57.37 | Xinhuan | you can technically reach 70 just leeching xp from other group members |
| 01:57.37 | Recluse | class matters for naked 1-70 |
| 01:57.40 | hyperChipmunk | and has numerous times |
| 01:57.41 | Xinhuan | and have all skills at 1 |
| 01:57.56 | so2 | Gutrot, Aerie Peak - EU, correct? |
| 01:58.02 | Wobwork | That takes a lot of effort on behalf of your party members =P |
| 01:58.02 | Codayus | Nukes would make naked esier... |
| 01:58.03 | Recluse | warlock nude leveling = cake |
| 01:58.14 | Codayus | And pets, come to think of it. |
| 01:58.38 | hyperChipmunk | Monk 1-70 naked |
| 01:58.43 | Recluse | lol |
| 01:58.52 | hyperChipmunk | that would be awesome |
| 01:58.55 | hyperChipmunk | hero class |
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| 01:59.07 | hyperChipmunk | level a warrior 1-70 without using weapons or armor |
| 01:59.12 | hyperChipmunk | you turn into a monk |
| 01:59.18 | so2 | http://eu.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Aerie+Peak&n=Gutrot |
| 01:59.18 | Codayus | I really really REALLLY want a healing based hero class. |
| 01:59.24 | Codayus | Death knights? F that... |
| 01:59.27 | so2 | No weapon skills, no plate armor proficiency. |
| 01:59.38 | Xinhuan | no repair fees :P |
| 02:00.02 | hyperChipmunk | of course an undead monk would be kinda weird |
| 02:00.04 | Necrathex | warrior, not possible, at least not solo |
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| 02:00.22 | Gngsk | nothing is impossible |
| 02:00.28 | Wobwork | 50dps =P |
| 02:00.29 | hyperChipmunk | no, you can do it |
| 02:00.41 | hyperChipmunk | fists aren't horrible, and quest xp is huge |
| 02:00.57 | Codayus | Mmm, I suspect a warrior could kill a green mob barehanded and naked at any level up to 70... |
| 02:01.18 | Codayus | And alot of quests could be done that way. So...technically possible. Just...ugh. |
| 02:01.21 | hyperChipmunk | i bet he's got a pair of fist weapons in his bag that he pulls out when nobody's online |
| 02:01.22 | hyperChipmunk | yeah |
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| 02:02.33 | hyperChipmunk | do warriors get a fist weapon talent? |
| 02:02.58 | Gngsk | I don't think so |
| 02:03.37 | Shadowed | hyperChipmunk nope |
| 02:03.43 | Shadowed | mace, sword, polearm/axe |
| 02:05.00 | hyperChipmunk | also, doesn't parry require a weapon equipped? |
| 02:06.06 | Necrathex | think not |
| 02:06.33 | so2 | It does. |
| 02:06.43 | Necrathex | you can't parry with fist weapons? |
| 02:06.55 | Xinhuan | you just need a hell lot of rested exp ;p |
| 02:07.19 | Ellipsis | bleh |
| 02:07.34 | Ellipsis | bedtime for lil 'lipsis |
| 02:07.36 | Ellipsis | night guys <3 |
| 02:08.45 | Recluse | Parry (Passive) Instant Requires Melee Weapon Gives a chance to parry enemy melee attacks. |
| 02:09.08 | hyperChipmunk | why does he have points into increaed parry then =x |
| 02:09.26 | Fin | ~dict parry |
| 02:09.29 | Recluse | used as a step maybe? |
| 02:09.48 | Fin | or in boxing - guess it doesn't need a weapon |
| 02:09.52 | Recluse | lol |
| 02:10.04 | so2 | In WoW it does :) |
| 02:10.15 | hyperChipmunk | i guess the other two are buffs to rend and heroic strike, both of which also require a weapon probably |
| 02:10.29 | Fin | he could scratch someone |
| 02:10.32 | so2 | Yeah, you can't do either of those without a weapon. |
| 02:10.48 | hyperChipmunk | so none of those skills would be usable anyway |
| 02:11.00 | so2 | So the first tier of Arm's is completely worthless for a naked warrior. |
| 02:11.12 | hyperChipmunk | that's why it's not called 'Hands' |
| 02:11.29 | Antiarc | :V |
| 02:11.52 | Recluse | naked warriors have arms too! |
| 02:13.11 | RogueShadow | hmm.. wow seems to really work the cpu when you get disconnected from inactivity |
| 02:13.25 | Fin | personally |
| 02:13.30 | hyperChipmunk | moral of story: don't afk in raids |
| 02:13.42 | RogueShadow | ? |
| 02:13.43 | Fin | I think naked warriors have certain other issues to work out before they start worrying too much about talents |
| 02:14.59 | Wobwork | ~fin |
| 02:15.00 | purl | [fin] Microsoft's "Freedom To Innovate Network", at http://www.microsoft.com/freedomtoinnovate/. Freedom for only themselves not for their competitors, or known as Pgl. Why don't you check ~pgl? |
| 02:15.11 | Wobwork | ~emulate fin |
| 02:15.24 | hyperChipmunk | screw that |
| 02:15.25 | hyperChipmunk | ~pgl |
| 02:15.26 | purl | extra, extra, read all about it, pgl is the coauthor of prat, and so much more. Better known as fin, but don't check ~fin. |
| 02:15.35 | Wobwork | purl emulate fin is <reply> I think naked warriors have certain other issues to work out before they start worrying too much about talents |
| 02:15.35 | purl | okay, Wobwork |
| 02:15.37 | hyperChipmunk | O_o |
| 02:16.04 | Wobwork | ~emulate hyperChipmunk |
| 02:16.05 | purl | ACTION kidnaps you to test Bulkmail. |
| 02:16.05 | Xinhuan | lol paypal just sent out a email "Tips from Paypal to protect your identity" |
| 02:16.07 | Fin | hmm |
| 02:16.10 | Fin | now this is a bit annoying |
| 02:16.11 | Fin | c: 233G 230G 3.1G 99% /cygdrive/c |
| 02:16.17 | hyperChipmunk | September 11, 2007 – States Want Longer Microsoft Oversight |
| 02:16.17 | hyperChipmunk | MSNBC.com (Associated Press) |
| 02:16.18 | hyperChipmunk | A group of states led by California asked a federal judge Tuesday to extend court oversight of Microsoft Corp.’s business practices for five more years. |
| 02:16.24 | Xinhuan | "Did you know safer web browsers, like Microsoft Internet Explorer 7 (IE7), make it easier to help you identify fake (spoof) websites and webpages that try to get you to enter person information with the intent to steal your account? Learn more about safer web browers." |
| 02:16.44 | Wobwork | enter person information? |
| 02:16.49 | Xinhuan | i giggled |
| 02:16.52 | Fin | aw! |
| 02:17.00 | Fin | I always liked the Freedom to Innervate Network thing! |
| 02:17.02 | hyperChipmunk | i hope 'oversight' is something different in legal terms |
| 02:17.31 | RogueShadow | I just closed wow after it has been showing the disconnected message for a bit. and my temp has already dropped 10C |
| 02:17.46 | Fin | also! I fuckin hate it when people do this: statement statement statement thing (acronym) statement - and never use the acronym ever again |
| 02:18.36 | Fin | consider! if only we all lived in the arctic |
| 02:18.43 | Fin | no more overheating |
| 02:18.52 | hyperChipmunk | yeah i hate summer |
| 02:19.23 | Wobwork | hehe fred. Master of the less than useful post =) |
| 02:19.24 | RogueShadow | It's pretty funky, some places the fridge is there to keep things from freezing. |
| 02:19.26 | Recluse | 1 more wowace project = 100 listings on wau... |
| 02:19.31 | Recluse | 1000* |
| 02:19.32 | Xinhuan | it does use the acronym "IE7" in the remainder of the email ;p |
| 02:20.23 | RogueShadow | quick somebody make a new project.... |
| 02:20.44 | hyperChipmunk | ace import ANewProject |
| 02:21.38 | Nandini | it never occurred to me if addons can become completely abandoned and retired from the trunk, does that ever happen? should it? |
| 02:21.52 | CIA-12 | 03myrathi * r50990 10FuBar_DungeonDiFu/ (DungeonDiFu.lua FuBar_DungeonDiFu.toc): |
| 02:21.52 | CIA-12 | FuBar_DungeonDiFu: |
| 02:21.52 | CIA-12 | - TOC updated: 20200 |
| 02:21.52 | CIA-12 | - Better method of ver# extraction. |
| 02:22.15 | Nandini | there are even a few that specifically say in their notes DOES NOT WORK or NOT WORKING |
| 02:22.45 | Nandini | could they not be retired to a branch or "final tag" graveyard until someone decides to resurrect them? |
| 02:23.23 | CIA-12 | 03fin * r50991 101000/: |
| 02:23.23 | CIA-12 | 1000: |
| 02:23.23 | CIA-12 | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:23.29 | Recluse | lol |
| 02:23.33 | Gnarfoz | fin? ;D |
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| 02:24.19 | Xinhuan | o_O ? |
| 02:24.40 | Gnarfoz | I btw hate my own lazyness |
| 02:25.10 | Fin | it hates you too |
| 02:25.15 | Gnarfoz | no way |
| 02:25.15 | CIA-12 | 03fin * r50992 101000/1000.lua: |
| 02:25.15 | CIA-12 | 1000: |
| 02:25.15 | CIA-12 | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:25.17 | Fin | consider yourself lucky! |
| 02:25.19 | CIA-12 | 03fin * r50993 101000/1000.toc: |
| 02:25.19 | CIA-12 | 1000: |
| 02:25.19 | CIA-12 | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:25.25 | rob` | Fin: /agree on the "never use the acronym again" thing. If you're only going to use it once, spell out the damn phrase. Also, people who use an acronym without defining it. |
| 02:25.27 | Fin | at least you don't have a genetic mutative disease virus like me |
| 02:25.38 | Gnarfoz | a what? |
| 02:25.39 | hyperChipmunk | you mean GMDV? |
| 02:25.39 | Gnarfoz | :p |
| 02:25.46 | Fin | HTH, HAND. |
| 02:25.51 | CIA-12 | 03toadkiller * r50994 10PeriodicTable-3.0/ (4 files in 3 dirs): |
| 02:25.51 | CIA-12 | PeriodicTable-3.0: |
| 02:25.51 | CIA-12 | - 33036:20 Mudder's Milk |
| 02:25.53 | Fin | PS: YHBT. |
| 02:25.57 | Xinhuan | i don't think addonnames can start with a digit? |
| 02:25.59 | Gnarfoz | (NO U) |
| 02:25.59 | rob` | FOAD, HAND. |
| 02:26.05 | Xinhuan | or is that only variable names? |
| 02:26.14 | Fin | we shall see |
| 02:26.54 | Fin | now, what's the addon going to do |
| 02:27.02 | Fin | ~1000 |
| 02:27.09 | Wobwork | Happy 1000 addons wowace! |
| 02:27.09 | Nandini | some acronyms eventually become ubiquitous enough to qualify as words in their own right |
| 02:27.11 | Wobwork | ? |
| 02:27.34 | hyperChipmunk | radar laser sonar |
| 02:27.40 | hyperChipmunk | scuba |
| 02:27.44 | Fin | carrot! |
| 02:27.47 | Xinhuan | modem |
| 02:27.50 | Fin | titwank |
| 02:27.58 | Fin | modem isn't an acronym anyway |
| 02:28.03 | hyperChipmunk | modem is technically a juxtaposition |
| 02:28.03 | Fin | it's a concatenation of two words |
| 02:28.04 | Nandini | for example, who really writes, "The diver puts on his Self-Contained Underwater Breathing Apperatus (SCUBA) gear, then does a backflip off the starboard railing." |
| 02:28.11 | Fin | juxtaposition oooOOOoooooh fancy |
| 02:28.14 | Fin | ~dict concatenation |
| 02:28.18 | Fin | ~dict juxtaposition |
| 02:28.21 | hyperChipmunk | nobody; because you'd knock yourself out doing a flip |
| 02:28.42 | Fin | and so: stalemate |
| 02:28.48 | Xinhuan | now now, lets not discuss english grammar here :) |
| 02:28.48 | Fin | next time, warrior! |
| 02:28.52 | hyperChipmunk | lol |
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| 02:29.07 | hyperChipmunk | except that's the actual word for the construction |
| 02:29.42 | hyperChipmunk | ~dict 1 juxtaposition |
| 02:29.44 | Fin | purl's judgement is final! |
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| 02:30.13 | hyperChipmunk | hm |
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| 02:30.18 | Nandini | i thought modem was a contraction, not a juxtaposition |
| 02:30.25 | Fin | damn you! |
| 02:30.29 | hyperChipmunk | no, contractions have apostrophes |
| 02:30.31 | Fin | Enter: Valkyrie |
| 02:30.39 | Gnarfoz | modulator/demodulator |
| 02:30.55 | hyperChipmunk | ~dict 1 juxtaposition |
| 02:31.11 | hyperChipmunk | oh n/m |
| 02:31.15 | hyperChipmunk | he did say it the first time |
| 02:31.31 | hyperChipmunk | np extra spams 4 u |
| 02:33.15 | Wobwork | Then there are the acronym atrocities |
| 02:33.18 | Wobwork | ATM machine |
| 02:33.21 | Wobwork | PIN number |
| 02:33.32 | Fin | cool like freezin friday at the ice club |
| 02:33.58 | hyperChipmunk | * NEW - frame1, frame2, ... = GetFramesRegisteredForEvent("event") |
| 02:34.00 | hyperChipmunk | handy |
| 02:34.21 | hyperChipmunk | * NEW - PickupItem(itemID or "item") |
| 02:34.22 | hyperChipmunk | very handy |
| 02:34.34 | Fin | hand city |
| 02:34.55 | Jaxon | What the fuck is tainting my UI when I try to overwrite poisons in arena |
| 02:35.01 | Gnarfoz | Wobin: LCD displays |
| 02:35.08 | Nandini | hyperChipmunk: not all contractions have apostrophes |
| 02:35.12 | Xinhuan | so if i have 120 frames registered for the same event, GetFramesRegisteredForEvent("event") is going to return me 120 variables? |
| 02:35.25 | Xinhuan | and i have to pack() ? |
| 02:35.29 | Gnarfoz | Xinhuan: sounds like it? |
| 02:35.45 | Gnarfoz | I don't know what pack does, but "frame1, frame2, ..." sure suggests that functionality |
| 02:36.05 | Fin | pack is the oppose of unpack |
| 02:36.08 | Xinhuan | pack(...) takes a argument list and returns a table containing that list |
| 02:36.14 | Gnarfoz | Fin: REALLY? :p |
| 02:36.17 | Fin | 1, 2, 3, 4 = unpack({ a, b, c, d}) |
| 02:36.25 | Gnarfoz | k ;) |
| 02:36.32 | hyperChipmunk | invalid |
| 02:36.34 | Fin | +space |
| 02:36.36 | Fin | retard |
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| 02:36.44 | Fin | and yeah, I know |
| 02:36.50 | Arcaia | ~wau2 |
| 02:36.51 | purl | i guess wau2 is http://wowace.com/wau2 |
| 02:36.59 | Fin | but I wasn't quoting lua, at least I didn't mean it like that, I meant it like in my head |
| 02:37.07 | Fin | rock me amadeus |
| 02:37.09 | Arcaia | YOU ALL SEE NOTHING! |
| 02:37.13 | Gnarfoz | Falco |
| 02:37.13 | Fin | see what? |
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| 02:38.50 | Shadowed | Fin's wrong |
| 02:38.53 | Shadowed | pack packs your bag for you |
| 02:38.55 | Shadowed | unpack unpacks it for you |
| 02:39.03 | Shadowed | just like slice and unslice |
| 02:39.08 | Fin | cheese! |
| 02:39.19 | Shadowed | not cheese, only bread |
| 02:39.25 | Fin | but where is the cheese? |
| 02:39.36 | Shadowed | CreateCheese(type) |
| 02:39.40 | Fin | assert(cheese) |
| 02:40.22 | Shadowed | assert(cheese, invalid cheese type) |
| 02:40.22 | Shadowed | clearly |
| 02:40.45 | Arcaia | I'm gonna go with : You are all homosexuals. |
| 02:40.51 | Xinhuan | i believe LUA has a limit of 200 args for a function call? |
| 02:40.59 | Fin | you do? |
| 02:41.01 | Shadowed | why the bloody hell would you need 200 args |
| 02:41.07 | Fin | there's nothing wrong with being gay |
| 02:41.22 | Xinhuan | you would need it Shadowed, if you have a function that returns 200 frames |
| 02:41.26 | Ellipsis | if you need 200 args you're doing it wrong |
| 02:41.27 | Xinhuan | that registered for 1 event |
| 02:41.29 | Nandini | some of my best lovers were gay |
| 02:41.31 | hyperChipmunk | it's 200 local variables |
| 02:41.38 | Shadowed | That'd probably do it |
| 02:42.08 | Xinhuan | i am fairly certain there are a few hundred frames that register for PLAYER_INVENTORY_CHANGED |
| 02:42.25 | Shadowed | few hundred?p robably not |
| 02:42.28 | Gnarfoz | lol youtube search is down, fail |
| 02:42.35 | Shadowed | wouldn't be very hard to test |
| 02:42.42 | Xinhuan | yes there are Shadowed, every bagslot in the default UI registers for it |
| 02:42.47 | Shadowed | weird |
| 02:42.47 | Xinhuan | so does every default UI button |
| 02:42.58 | Xinhuan | i.e your default 4 action bars |
| 02:43.08 | Xinhuan | so does your paperdoll slots |
| 02:43.20 | hyperChipmunk | also, you'd probably make an iterator out of that return rather than packing it |
| 02:43.23 | Xinhuan | and so does many of the Portraits in many UI windows |
| 02:43.42 | Tuller | portraits register portrait changed, I thought |
| 02:43.51 | Xinhuan | hmmm maybe tuller |
| 02:43.53 | Xinhuan | not sure on that one |
| 02:44.01 | Shadowed | limits not 200 |
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| 02:44.13 | Shadowed | nor is it 500 |
| 02:44.23 | Xinhuan | its probably in luac.h somewhere |
| 02:44.29 | Shadowed | 10,000 makes unpack complain! |
| 02:44.31 | Xinhuan | that constant |
| 02:44.50 | CIA-12 | 03speeddymon * r50995 10CooldownTimers2/: Deleting addon from SVN to try to cleanup the bad build in WAU |
| 02:45.08 | Xinhuan | AHAHA fin, your addon is now addon 999, not 1000 |
| 02:45.22 | hyperChipmunk | luaconf.h:#define LUAI_MAXCCALLS200 |
| 02:45.22 | hyperChipmunk | luaconf.h:#define LUAI_MAXVARS200 |
| 02:45.23 | Speeddymon | rofl only for like 20 mins |
| 02:45.52 | Xinhuan | lua complains if you have more than 200 locals inside a function |
| 02:47.02 | Fin | there's so many things wrong with the mock I shall refrain from responding, aside from saying that a) it's not an addon b) it was still the 1000th, d) your mum, e) so go rename it, f) did you update the wiki? did you? |
| 02:47.18 | Xinhuan | irony |
| 02:47.38 | hyperChipmunk | what's c)? |
| 02:47.42 | Fin | aha! |
| 02:47.50 | hyperChipmunk | ah |
| 02:47.55 | Fin | it's proof that you read that far |
| 02:48.06 | Fin | now I have you in my grasp |
| 02:48.11 | Ellipsis | oh noes |
| 02:48.49 | hyperChipmunk | lol |
| 02:48.57 | hyperChipmunk | ~thank Fin |
| 02:48.57 | purl | hyperChipmunk: gern geschehen |
| 02:49.03 | hyperChipmunk | hah |
| 02:49.36 | harldephin | oO |
| 02:50.00 | hyperChipmunk | ~thank f1n |
| 02:50.00 | purl | de rien, hyperChipmunk |
| 02:50.41 | ZealotOnAStick | fin - 1000? |
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| 02:52.02 | Kemayo | Xinhuan: I view the 200 locals thing as the sort of limit where, if you discover it, you're probably doing something wrong. |
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| 02:52.49 | Xinhuan | i'm just stating a fact, you would need 200 locals if GetFramesRegisteredForEvent("event") returns 200 variables |
| 02:53.23 | Xinhuan | unless you pack it, and i'm not sure if LUA even supports 200 args in a function call |
| 02:53.26 | Shadowed | wouldn't you need one local because you're storing it in a table |
| 02:53.40 | Shadowed | or you're using vararg and doing a loop |
| 02:53.45 | Xinhuan | the APi suggests that it doesn't return a table |
| 02:54.15 | Shadowed | It does the same thing as dependencies i assume |
| 02:54.32 | Xinhuan | what does it do for dependencies? |
| 02:54.33 | Kemayo | The API returns it as a tuple. But I don't think you'd have problems just doing 't = {GetFramesRegisteredForEvent("event")}'. |
| 02:54.42 | Shadowed | so if you do parseArgs(GetFrameRegisteredBlah()) you can parse it without creating a table |
| 02:54.45 | Shadowed | and only one local |
| 02:54.59 | Shadowed | from for i=1, select("#", ...) do local name = select(i, ...); end |
| 02:55.16 | Xinhuan | it would still generate all the variables, just that they get thrown away |
| 02:55.26 | Xinhuan | parseArgs() is still a function call |
| 02:55.45 | Xinhuan | like any other function |
| 02:55.46 | Shadowed | hell if i know |
| 02:56.00 | Shadowed | but I'd think slouken knows about that |
| 02:56.10 | Xinhuan | Kemayo's solution looks neat though |
| 02:57.14 | Fin | Zealot: on a stick! |
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| 03:04.35 | CIA-12 | CooldownTimers2: |
| 03:04.35 | CIA-12 | - Re-Importing |
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| 03:06.55 | Xinhuan | http://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/pointers.png |
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| 03:18.21 | CIA-12 | nQuestLog : |
| 03:18.21 | CIA-12 | - Update locale koKR |
| 03:19.27 | CIA-12 | 03speeddymon * r50998 10CooldownTimers2/: |
| 03:19.27 | CIA-12 | CooldownTimers2: |
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| 03:22.34 | Xinhuan | is there any library that checks talents? |
| 03:22.46 | Ellipsis | checks them for what? |
| 03:22.49 | Codayus | ...checks them for what? |
| 03:22.52 | Codayus | GAH BEATEN |
| 03:22.57 | Ellipsis | ~poke Codayus |
| 03:22.58 | purl | ACTION cuts down a small tree, sneaks up behind Codayus, pokes Codayus repeatedly, hilarity ensues. |
| 03:22.58 | Xinhuan | to see if the player has a certain talent |
| 03:23.07 | Xinhuan | and how many points in it |
| 03:23.15 | Ellipsis | I don't think so, what would you search by? |
| 03:23.22 | Ellipsis | localized name or something? |
| 03:23.28 | Xinhuan | yeah i suppose so |
| 03:23.34 | Ellipsis | that's kinda...messy |
| 03:23.43 | Xinhuan | well is there a better way? |
| 03:23.44 | Speeddymon | gah! i need someone to clear the error with CDT now... go frigginfigure |
| 03:24.04 | Ellipsis | if there was, I think there'd be a lib implementing it |
| 03:24.04 | Codayus | Hmm, does Babble have localized talent names? |
| 03:24.08 | Ellipsis | so I'm gonna go with no |
| 03:24.24 | Xinhuan | that's why i asked if there is such a library |
| 03:24.37 | Ellipsis | I don't think it does, other than talents which are spells o.O |
| 03:25.05 | Codayus | I ran across an addon ages ago that was a generalized raid leader helper/planner thing. |
| 03:25.08 | Ellipsis | it has the talent tree names though |
| 03:25.17 | Codayus | ONE thing it did was track talent specs, but it required everyone to have the addon. |
| 03:25.39 | Xinhuan | how does ThreatLib do it? |
| 03:25.41 | Seerah | yeah, you can't query the server for someone's talents |
| 03:25.44 | Xinhuan | check manually? |
| 03:25.56 | Codayus | So a raid leader could find who had Kings, or Divine Spirit, or Mortal Strike, or whatever. No idea how it worked; it didn't use a library. And I forget the name. :-) |
| 03:25.56 | Ellipsis | actually I lied |
| 03:25.57 | Paene | can it be pulled from the armory? |
| 03:25.57 | Xinhuan | for talents that affect threat |
| 03:26.05 | Ellipsis | Babble-Spell has talents |
| 03:26.13 | Codayus | Xinhuan: Sure, but ThreatLib has to be run locally too... |
| 03:26.21 | Codayus | Oh, I see, does it localize you mean? |
| 03:26.22 | Seerah | The new Rock comm library broadcasts talents |
| 03:26.33 | Xinhuan | that's different |
| 03:26.36 | Seerah | but you can only see the talents of other rock comm lib users |
| 03:26.38 | Paene | If you're just wanting to get talent info on someone, couldn't you use Tattle? |
| 03:26.46 | Xinhuan | that merely transmits the X/Y/Z numbers? |
| 03:26.57 | Ellipsis | Rock transmits the full trees |
| 03:27.08 | Xinhuan | i'm only interested in knowing the player's own talents, if he has X points in Y talent |
| 03:27.10 | Codayus | Ellipsis: Oh, if Babble-Spell has them, then it'd be pretty easy to combo RockComm, Babble and a simple search function... |
| 03:27.11 | Ellipsis | the only addon that lets you view them right now is Talented |
| 03:27.11 | Speeddymon | Seerah, Ellipsis: either of you have the ability to clear an error listed in http://files.wowace.com/ERRORS.txt ? |
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| 03:27.25 | Shadowed | Ellipsis same method as blizzard does |
| 03:27.34 | Codayus | Talented + Rock + (optionally) Prat = uber. |
| 03:27.43 | Ellipsis | Shadowed: then what's the point of a lib :P |
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| 03:27.52 | Shadowed | I assume they just do it in a left -> right order for each tier, so 05 would mean first talent in T1 has 0 points, second has 5 |
| 03:27.53 | Shadowed | and so on |
| 03:28.02 | Xinhuan | you specified the wrong folder Speeddymon |
| 03:28.07 | Ellipsis | Speeddymon - I'm confused, why would we? o.O |
| 03:28.11 | Shadowed | in answer to your earlier question about localization =p |
| 03:28.30 | Speeddymon | arent you guys admins on the site? |
| 03:28.32 | ckknight | hey all |
| 03:28.37 | Speeddymon | and Xinhuan: wrong folder? |
| 03:28.39 | Ellipsis | oh wait |
| 03:28.47 | RogueShadow | omg omg, it's ckknight |
| 03:28.49 | Seerah | Speeddymon: the three addons that are looking for AceLocale-2.0 (it's 2.2 now) are old, outdated, abandoned mods |
| 03:28.50 | ckknight | lol |
| 03:28.53 | Xinhuan | should be 2.2? |
| 03:28.55 | Xinhuan | not 2.0 |
| 03:28.59 | Codayus | Shadowed: I think the original goal was an addon or library that'd let you check "hey, does player X have talent Y"? To do the search, you'd want to enter a talent name... |
| 03:29.11 | Speeddymon | arg lol okie, but those arent my errors.. im talkin bout the one with cooldowntimers 2 |
| 03:29.15 | Shadowed | well either way |
| 03:29.25 | Shadowed | you can turn position into the actual name without too much hassle |
| 03:29.27 | Ellipsis | Speeddymon: can't speak for Seerah, but I certainly have no privileges anywhere on WowAce...I don't even have a SVN account :P |
| 03:29.30 | Shadowed | just has to be updated when you gain a new talent |
| 03:29.36 | Speeddymon | ick ok |
| 03:29.38 | RogueShadow | do you have esp? they just mentioned rock... then you |
| 03:29.50 | Ellipsis | RogueShadow, Rock is the hot topic these days |
| 03:29.57 | Speeddymon | ckknight: http://files.wowace.com/ERRORS.txt line 2 |
| 03:30.00 | Ellipsis | it'd be hard for him to come in at a time when someone *wasn't* discussing it |
| 03:30.04 | Seerah | I only have an svn account. they wouldn't even make me a moderator when I offered ;) |
| 03:30.13 | Speeddymon | hehe |
| 03:30.17 | Speeddymon | that sux.. ok |
| 03:30.36 | RogueShadow | I don't even have an svn account. Don't need one. Can't write anything. Never tried yet. |
| 03:31.09 | RogueShadow | Need a trivial idea to get started... |
| 03:31.43 | Speeddymon | ckknight: u mind fixing that plz? (reference: http://files.wowace.com/ERRORS.txt line 2) |
| 03:31.48 | Ellipsis | port DuraFu so I don't have to, RogueShadow! |
| 03:32.02 | Shadowed | if you mean svn admin, then that'd be kael |
| 03:32.04 | Shadowed | whos not on |
| 03:32.07 | ckknight | Speeddymon: isn't this an svn issue? |
| 03:32.29 | Speeddymon | nope, cdt is in svn.. |
| 03:32.44 | RogueShadow | DuraFu |
| 03:32.46 | RogueShadow | hmm |
| 03:32.53 | Speeddymon | it's having an issue addin the makefile cause it already exists in that folder |
| 03:32.53 | Seerah | I see it... revision 50998 |
| 03:34.09 | Seerah | try removing it from the svn and putting it up again? /shrug |
| 03:34.24 | Speeddymon | I _THINK_ if you delete /var/mkfiles/svn/svn_dev.wowace.com/wowace/trunk/CooldownTimers2 then it will rebuild the makefile and thus put my addon back in the list of addons on files. |
| 03:35.07 | Speeddymon | Seerah: thats not the problem heh.. the problem is that the script which puts together the addons from svn is borked, and doesn't delete the addon's makefile when it detects that it was removed from svn.. |
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| 03:35.27 | RogueShadow | Ellipsis, do you mean DurabilityFu? what's wrong with it? |
| 03:35.28 | Speeddymon | so when it tries to make a new one for the same addon, it tends to break |
| 03:35.53 | Ellipsis | RogueShadow: FuBar_DurabilityFu yeah...it has a bug atm, but the main issue is porting it over to Rock/LibFuBarPlugin-3.0 |
| 03:36.26 | RogueShadow | hrmm. |
| 03:36.39 | RogueShadow | looking never hurt. even if I didnt' know what the heck I was doin. |
| 03:36.55 | Ellipsis | as long as you don't have a svn account you can't do any real damage :P |
| 03:37.02 | RogueShadow | aye |
| 03:37.37 | NightHawkTheSane | actually, even with a svn account you can't do any real damage |
| 03:37.45 | NightHawkTheSane | the beauty of svn is that you can always revert. |
| 03:38.04 | NightHawkTheSane | in fact, that's more or less the entire purpose behind subversion |
| 03:38.13 | RogueShadow | I've been playing with TortoiseSVN a bit more lately. Getting the idea. |
| 03:38.47 | NightHawkTheSane | tortoisesvn is just a pretty shell, though. ;) |
| 03:39.06 | Speeddymon | yea its nice, as long as the download site dont hide your addons from view and spit out an error |
| 03:39.35 | Seerah | you can do everything from a command line program ;) TortoiseSVN just makes it look more intuitive is what NHtS is saying |
| 03:39.38 | Speeddymon | but that isnt because of something wrong with svn, its because of something wrong with the script author ;-D j/k pastamancer |
| 03:39.57 | RogueShadow | aye aye, there's 10 ways to do anything. |
| 03:40.05 | RogueShadow | depends on what your accustomed to, and like. |
| 03:40.06 | NightHawkTheSane | Seerah: precisely. :) I use the cli almost exclusively on my mac |
| 03:40.06 | Speeddymon | Seerah: aye cmdline rocks |
| 03:40.22 | Seerah | I'm too much of a nub for that... >.> |
| 03:40.25 | Ellipsis | I prefer the command line...although it doesn't seem to like me =[ |
| 03:40.30 | Speeddymon | hehe |
| 03:40.48 | NightHawkTheSane | windows cli is slightly more painful than putting a nail through my eye, so i use tortoisesvn on windows |
| 03:40.59 | Ellipsis | more? really? |
| 03:41.10 | Ellipsis | I haven't had a chance to compare... |
| 03:41.23 | NightHawkTheSane | compared to a real shell? yes. |
| 03:41.44 | Seerah | lol, ellipsis |
| 03:42.10 | Ellipsis | but I'm pretty sure using the command line doesn't leave you with no depth perception? |
| 03:42.19 | Speeddymon | NHtS: /agree |
| 03:42.25 | NightHawkTheSane | i dunno, have you used the windows shell for very long? ) |
| 03:42.27 | NightHawkTheSane | ;) |
| 03:42.28 | Ellipsis | I mean, it is painful and all, but the effects are temporary at least |
| 03:42.34 | Ellipsis | well, no...I do try to avoid it |
| 03:43.31 | RogueShadow | Is there doc's for FuBarPlugin-3.0 |
| 03:44.42 | RogueShadow | ah n/m |
| 03:44.57 | RogueShadow | forgot the Lib |
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| 03:50.23 | breser | Antiarc: Any progress with the assertion issues? |
| 03:50.38 | Fin | anybody got a pointer to a nice premade function for sorting a table alphabetically by index? |
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| 03:51.33 | Xinhuan | Fin: you can only do that by making a second table |
| 03:51.46 | Xinhuan | that points to the entries in the first one |
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| 03:51.49 | Xinhuan | and sort the 2nd table |
| 03:52.02 | Fin | yeah, I know :) thanks though |
| 03:52.10 | Paene | Does Ace have an OnUpdate handler? I can't seem to find it in any of the documentation. |
| 03:52.11 | Fin | that's why I was asking for a "nice premade function" :) |
| 03:52.13 | Paene | er |
| 03:52.14 | Xinhuan | or change the format of your first table |
| 03:52.15 | Paene | Ace2 |
| 03:52.17 | Xinhuan | to be 2-layer |
| 03:52.40 | Ellipsis | Fin, there's some sample code for alphabetizing on http://www.lua.org/pil/19.3.html |
| 03:52.49 | Fin | I appreciate the help, but I'm not having problems writing it, I'm just being lazy - I thought maybe there was a helper function in Ace or something, somewhere |
| 03:52.51 | Xinhuan | {{}, {}, {}, {}} and each element in the to layer would be numerically indexed, and you can supply your own sort function |
| 03:52.59 | Fin | ta Elli, much obliged |
| 03:53.28 | Xinhuan | there isn't really, because non-numerically indexed tables simply return in an arbiturary order using pairs() |
| 03:54.22 | reqol | is knowing java going to make learning lua any easier? |
| 03:54.25 | Xinhuan | you can write your own interator function i imagine, to return in sorted order if you really want to! |
| 03:54.26 | Fin | yeah, but I would've thought it a common thing to want to sort a table alphabetically by index, I do it enough in other languages :) no matter! again, kind of you |
| 03:54.46 | Fin | that's exactly what I'm going to do |
| 03:55.00 | ckknight | reqol: it's arguable |
| 03:55.23 | Ellipsis | java won't help you any more than general programming experience with any other language, IMO |
| 03:55.27 | Paene | ScheduleRepeatingEvent() Is this the equivalent of OnUpdate? |
| 03:55.28 | Ellipsis | at least it didn't for me >_> |
| 03:55.30 | reqol | I know it's not oop |
| 03:55.31 | Paene | in Ace2? |
| 03:55.40 | Paene | anyone know? :-p |
| 03:55.45 | Xinhuan | Paene: similar |
| 03:56.02 | reqol | so I'm guessing the pil is the best place to learn it then? |
| 03:56.03 | Paene | just trying to figure out how you would make a mod check someone every second |
| 03:56.03 | Xinhuan | it uses an OnUpdate to call one of your function every X seconds |
| 03:56.13 | Ellipsis | yes reqol, it's a wonderful resource |
| 03:56.13 | Paene | *something |
| 03:56.28 | Xinhuan | should avoid doing that if it is possible |
| 03:56.31 | hyperChipmunk | Paene: read the AceEvent API doc on the wiki for full explanation and details |
| 03:56.32 | Shadowed | reqol, knowing any language will help you learn Lua |
| 03:56.36 | Xinhuan | since polling is bad in general |
| 03:56.47 | Ellipsis | normally that's not really necessary Paene, but if you absolutely must, that's how you'd do it :P |
| 03:56.53 | Shadowed | you just have to mostly get used to the difference of strict typed like Java to lua |
| 03:57.12 | Ellipsis | just pretend everything's an Object |
| 03:57.14 | reqol | is there any thing remotely similar to an object? |
| 03:57.22 | reqol | I like the comfort of OO |
| 03:57.23 | Ellipsis | table |
| 03:57.23 | Xinhuan | javascript is close to lua than java heh |
| 03:57.32 | Xinhuan | s/close/closer/ |
| 03:57.40 | Ellipsis | everything is a table in Lua, like everything is an Object in Java |
| 03:57.41 | hyperChipmunk | tables are whatever you want them to be, including objects |
| 03:57.53 | NightHawkTheSane | tables are your mom. |
| 03:57.56 | reqol | lol |
| 03:57.57 | Ellipsis | no u |
| 03:58.02 | Fin | tables are what tables will |
| 03:58.15 | ckknight | Ellipsis: not everything is a table |
| 03:58.18 | NightHawkTheSane | the table weaves as the table will? |
| 03:58.25 | Ellipsis | sigh |
| 03:58.48 | Fin | table, table, in lua, how I wonder what you are |
| 03:58.48 | Paene | reqol: I came from a Java and C++ background, just now learning Lua. A lot of it is the same, it's really not that hard to pick up on. Check out the Welcome Home tutorial and things will start to make sense real quick. |
| 03:58.51 | Ellipsis | and not everything is an Object in Java, either :P |
| 03:59.07 | reqol | Paene: welcome home tutorial? |
| 03:59.18 | NightHawkTheSane | i'm a little table, short and stout, here is my _index, here is my meta? |
| 03:59.37 | Paene | reqol: http://www.wowace.com/wiki/WelcomeHome_-_Your_first_Ace2_Addon |
| 03:59.37 | Ellipsis | reqol: check out http://wiki.wowace.com/wiki/Category:Tutorials |
| 03:59.40 | theoddone33 | so is there a ram riding assist mod yet? |
| 03:59.41 | Ellipsis | or that |
| 03:59.48 | Paene | Elipsis's link is better :) |
| 03:59.48 | Xinhuan | if you already have programming background knowledge, reading the PIL is a great way to learn Lua |
| 04:00.11 | Ellipsis | yeah, that was pretty much enough for me |
| 04:00.11 | Shadowed | you're better off doing your first mod without a library thought reqol if you really want to learn how everything in wow works better |
| 04:00.11 | reqol | alright thanks; is there an IDE with caltips or should I just stick to notepad++? |
| 04:00.18 | Ellipsis | with supplemental "wtf is a toc" from wowwiki |
| 04:00.20 | Paene | I use Scite |
| 04:00.38 | Ellipsis | reqol, a lot of people use Notepad++ for Lua (I do) |
| 04:00.59 | reqol | I <3 my notepad++ |
| 04:01.07 | Ellipsis | there are, of course, other options, but if you're familiar with it then I'd say just keep using it :P |
| 04:01.12 | Paene | What's so special about Notepad++? :-p |
| 04:01.24 | Fin | ++ man |
| 04:01.25 | Fin | ++ |
| 04:01.27 | Ellipsis | ask your mom, Paene |
| 04:01.28 | Ellipsis | :P |
| 04:01.32 | Paene | lol |
| 04:01.48 | reqol | well |
| 04:01.53 | Fin | [05:59:38] < Xinhuan> if you already have programming background knowledge, reading the PIL is a great way to learn Lua |
| 04:02.02 | Fin | s/.*reading/reading/ |
| 04:02.07 | Paene | I dunno what the PIL even is |
| 04:02.07 | reqol | I'm not all too fond of the robust eclipse, and notepad++ is a light but powerful editor |
| 04:02.07 | Paene | lol |
| 04:02.08 | hyperChipmunk | the pil is your path to enlightenment |
| 04:02.09 | Ellipsis | haha |
| 04:02.12 | CIA-12 | 03funkydude * r50999 10Omen/ (Omen.toc localization_esES.lua): Omen: Add Spanish localization by geran |
| 04:02.14 | hyperChipmunk | http://www.lua.org/pil |
| 04:02.15 | Ellipsis | ~pil |
| 04:02.16 | purl | [pil] Programming in Lua, a book written by the authors of the Lua programming language. The first edition is available free online at http://www.lua.org/pil and covers Lua 5.0. The second edition is available in print from most online bookstores, and covers Lua 5.1. |
| 04:02.18 | hyperChipmunk | read it and then come back |
| 04:02.26 | Fin | huh, purl doesn't do regexes |
| 04:02.39 | Paene | bah |
| 04:02.40 | reqol | is this like a rite of passage or something? |
| 04:02.42 | Ellipsis | yes |
| 04:02.47 | Paene | I do enough reading for all my classes |
| 04:02.56 | Xinhuan | you can easily finish reading it within an hour or so |
| 04:02.57 | Funkeh` | Ellipsis is more like a rite fo passage |
| 04:03.06 | Ellipsis | yeah, everyone has to do me before they can be accepted |
| 04:03.11 | Paene | :-O |
| 04:03.12 | Ellipsis | hey wait :( |
| 04:03.17 | Xinhuan | it provides you with enough information to code in lua |
| 04:03.19 | Funkeh` | :) |
| 04:03.26 | Ellipsis | ~lart Funkeh` |
| 04:03.26 | purl | acting on orders from an unspecified client drags Funkeh` into court suing for $200 million |
| 04:03.44 | Paene | I'll check it out for sure, just gotta find some free time. Philosophy usually keeps me bogged down in reading atm. |
| 04:04.01 | Paene | It's either that or Algorithms/Calc 2 homeowrk |
| 04:04.11 | Ellipsis | ah, to be in college again |
| 04:04.12 | Paene | *homework |
| 04:04.21 | reqol | okay, thanks people, I'll be back after I'm done with this...pil |
| 04:04.30 | Paene | <-----attend Michigan Tech |
| 04:04.46 | Ellipsis | what I wouldn't do... |
| 04:04.55 | Ellipsis | ...to never ever ever have to think about going back to school... |
| 04:05.00 | Paene | lol |
| 04:05.05 | Ellipsis | >_> |
| 04:05.05 | *** join/#wowace Sole (n=chatzill@203.109.176.8) |
| 04:05.29 | Paene | wanna come take my Algorithms class? It's tons of fun discrete math and algorithm measurement! |
| 04:05.43 | hyperChipmunk | Paene: say hey to da UP, eh! |
| 04:05.48 | Paene | lol |
| 04:05.48 | Ellipsis | no promises on the actual attendance, but I'll pass the tests for ya |
| 04:06.01 | Ellipsis | though they might kinda notice I'm not you |
| 04:06.10 | hyperChipmunk | you live up there? |
| 04:06.12 | Paene | Man, it's too much math... |
| 04:06.13 | Funkeh` | Ellipsis: Not at school? |
| 04:06.14 | Paene | yeah atm |
| 04:06.18 | Ellipsis | Funkeh`: god no |
| 04:06.22 | Funkeh` | Ellipsis: How old are you? |
| 04:06.24 | Ellipsis | 18 |
| 04:06.35 | hyperChipmunk | good deal |
| 04:06.39 | Funkeh` | Not planning college/uni or anything? |
| 04:06.45 | Ellipsis | I dropped out |
| 04:06.46 | Paene | hyperChipmunk: Why do you ask, from the area? |
| 04:07.07 | Funkeh` | To come hang with us? |
| 04:07.09 | Ellipsis | yep! |
| 04:07.17 | Ellipsis | I sensed my true calling was somewhere on the interwebs |
| 04:07.24 | Funkeh` | Thought so |
| 04:07.29 | hyperChipmunk | born in Detroit, lived here my whole life but I'm a northerner at heart |
| 04:07.33 | Ellipsis | yeah, but then I got sidetracked and ended up here |
| 04:07.37 | Ellipsis | oh well ^-^ |
| 04:07.37 | Seerah | TC is home for me |
| 04:07.42 | Paene | I'm from metro-detroit |
| 04:07.43 | Ellipsis | no wai |
| 04:07.48 | Ellipsis | I have family in/near TC >_> |
| 04:07.52 | Paene | use to live in Novi |
| 04:07.57 | Seerah | cherry capitol of the world |
| 04:07.59 | hyperChipmunk | <--Sterling Heights |
| 04:08.04 | Paene | just moved to Brighton this past summer |
| 04:08.11 | Seerah | went to school at U-M in Ann Arbor |
| 04:08.25 | Funkeh` | Seerah! |
| 04:08.27 | hyperChipmunk | neat >8) |
| 04:08.29 | Paene | nice! |
| 04:08.31 | Seerah | Funkeh`! |
| 04:08.35 | Paene | tis a tough school |
| 04:08.40 | Paene | good Comp Sci program |
| 04:08.42 | Funkeh` | Wheres my on channel-join hug! |
| 04:08.47 | Seerah | <-- choral music education ;) |
| 04:09.01 | Seerah | I can't see when people leave/join this irc channel anymore :( |
| 04:09.28 | Paene | If I can just get through this semester, I'm home free to graduate lol |
| 04:09.29 | Funkeh` | Seerah: Using chatzilla? |
| 04:09.44 | Paene | in another year and a half that is |
| 04:09.47 | Seerah | si |
| 04:10.16 | Seerah | used to work, Funkeh` :( |
| 04:10.33 | Funkeh` | Seerah: preferences > this channel > conference mode limit: 0 |
| 04:11.03 | Funkeh` | in appearance actually |
| 04:11.08 | Necrathex | rofl @ topic btw |
| 04:11.46 | Necrathex | seems i missed the fun |
| 04:11.56 | Funkeh` | My guess is Ellipsis started it |
| 04:11.58 | Ellipsis | you did, by a few days |
| 04:12.00 | hyperChipmunk | no, she's still here |
| 04:12.01 | Ellipsis | nah uh |
| 04:12.07 | Funkeh` | liar |
| 04:12.12 | Ellipsis | ok I helped |
| 04:12.20 | Funkeh` | understatement |
| 04:12.21 | Ellipsis | but I was piggybacking on the topic that was already being discussed |
| 04:12.28 | Ellipsis | so that's not really fair |
| 04:12.46 | Ellipsis | hmm |
| 04:12.52 | Ellipsis | ~seen SaladFork |
| 04:12.54 | purl | saladfork <n=SaladFor@pool-71-248-160-155.bstnma.fios.verizon.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 8d 1h 51m 52s ago, saying: 'Camci - You can /msg ThraeBot and it'll respond'. |
| 04:12.54 | Funkeh` | piggybacking as in hanging an apple on a rope over its head |
| 04:12.55 | hyperChipmunk | the topic is a response to your behavior as a whole, not the result of any specific event |
| 04:13.05 | Seerah | okay off to actually *play* wow.... |
| 04:13.14 | Funkeh` | okay off to actually sleep |
| 04:13.17 | NightHawkTheSane | quick! which inventory slot number is cloak? |
| 04:13.19 | Ellipsis | hyperChipmunk: I wasn't even awake when they started the conversation... |
| 04:13.21 | *** join/#wowace Sole_ (n=chatzill@203.109.176.8) |
| 04:13.23 | hyperChipmunk | play wow? sleep? both bannable offenses |
| 04:13.42 | hyperChipmunk | Ellipsis: regardless, that's why it's there |
| 04:13.42 | Funkeh` | hmm |
| 04:13.43 | Seerah | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:13.46 | hyperChipmunk | Sole |
| 04:13.49 | Paene | what conversation? |
| 04:13.51 | Ellipsis | so I'm personally responsible, huh |
| 04:13.55 | Paene | this sounds like a good story! |
| 04:14.10 | Seerah | are they talking about the Michigan convo? |
| 04:14.22 | Ellipsis | yes, Michigan is now on the list of banned topics, sorry |
| 04:14.26 | Paene | :-O |
| 04:14.27 | Ellipsis | it's apparently all my fault |
| 04:14.31 | Paene | you can't ban my state! |
| 04:14.41 | ckknight | Michigan? |
| 04:14.43 | Seerah | But michigan is the best state! |
| 04:14.43 | hyperChipmunk | Sole_: i made a tweak to Gladiator |
| 04:14.48 | Paene | indeed |
| 04:14.49 | hyperChipmunk | library load order |
| 04:14.55 | hyperChipmunk | /agree |
| 04:14.56 | Funkeh` | ckknight: wb |
| 04:14.58 | Seerah | it's the only state where the map is your hand! |
| 04:15.02 | Paene | ckknight: welcome to the conversation |
| 04:15.12 | ckknight | I've been here |
| 04:15.15 | Paene | agreed Seerah |
| 04:15.17 | hyperChipmunk | Sole_: check it if you like, but it shouldn't cause any damage |
| 04:15.32 | Paene | there's no other state you can use your hand to point out where you live! |
| 04:15.40 | Seerah | though for the UP you have to turn your hand kinda sideways... >.> |
| 04:15.45 | Paene | lol |
| 04:16.06 | hyperChipmunk | yeah, and you gotta have some vulcan finger joint control |
| 04:16.14 | hyperChipmunk | or some tape |
| 04:16.15 | Paene | according to The Colbert Report, the UP is part of Canada |
| 04:16.17 | Seerah | nah, only for your pinky |
| 04:16.24 | hyperChipmunk | get that pinky down there |
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| 04:16.45 | Paene | ckknight: where in Michigan were you? |
| 04:16.57 | ckknight | Hawaii |
| 04:16.58 | Seerah | I believe he meant here in this channel |
| 04:17.02 | hyperChipmunk | lol |
| 04:17.17 | Paene | I'm confused... |
| 04:17.18 | Paene | lol |
| 04:17.21 | Sole_ | hyperChipmunk: thats ok, just tell me what ya changed |
| 04:17.37 | hyperChipmunk | i swapped the order of babble zone and tourist |
| 04:17.40 | Sole_ | hyperChipmunk: Im not really developing glad atm anyway so feel free to do whatever |
| 04:17.43 | hyperChipmunk | because the one depended on the other |
| 04:17.49 | Sole_ | hyperChipmunk: fair enough |
| 04:17.58 | hyperChipmunk | and they were throwing big error boxes on load |
| 04:18.05 | hyperChipmunk | yeah, i hadn't seen you around, or i would have waited |
| 04:18.16 | Sole_ | hyperChipmunk: if I ever get around to writing a new version its all gonna be a lot smaller, trust me |
| 04:18.17 | hyperChipmunk | been sitting on it for awhile, but thought you ought to at least be aware |
| 04:18.23 | Sole_ | its ok |
| 04:18.35 | Sole_ | feel free to change anything you want in the future |
| 04:18.55 | hyperChipmunk | it's good for now; just keepin' it chuggin' |
| 04:20.51 | reqol | the thought of no predefined types in lua scares me : ( |
| 04:21.04 | Paene | lol |
| 04:21.06 | hyperChipmunk | you'll get over it |
| 04:21.09 | ckknight | reqol: there are predefined types. |
| 04:21.09 | Paene | it's actually quite nice |
| 04:21.12 | Paene | once you get used to it |
| 04:21.36 | Paene | PHP is the same way I believe |
| 04:21.41 | hyperChipmunk | you'll hate java after you get used to lua, tbh |
| 04:21.47 | *** part/#wowace Mr_Rabies2 (i=Mr_Rabie@adsl-066-156-082-132.sip.asm.bellsouth.net) |
| 04:22.03 | reqol | but...but I don't want to hate java |
| 04:22.09 | NightHawkTheSane | you don't have to get used to lua to hate java |
| 04:22.17 | NightHawkTheSane | it's pretty hateable on its own |
| 04:22.18 | Fin | Turn Back Now |
| 04:22.20 | hyperChipmunk | also true |
| 04:22.23 | Fin | Danger Ahead |
| 04:22.24 | Paene | I hate Java just from using C++ :-p Java feels so constraining |
| 04:22.46 | reqol | well, as java being my first language, the idea of something as powerful as pointers scares me |
| 04:22.56 | reqol | ...the possible misuse is just something I don't want to run into |
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| 04:23.07 | reqol | but I guess that's not a good convention |
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| 04:23.12 | Paene | reqol: college student? |
| 04:23.16 | hyperChipmunk | no need to worry about that in lua either |
| 04:23.23 | reqol | Paene: what makes you think that? |
| 04:23.29 | NightHawkTheSane | my friends and i used to joke that if programming languages were weapons, java is an unloaded pistol with the saftey welded on. c++ is a loaded elaphant gun with a hair trigger |
| 04:23.39 | Paene | reqol: Java's your first language...figured you might have just started college |
| 04:23.42 | Wobwork | hehe http://www.networkworld.com/news/2007/100407-harvard-ig-nobel-prizes.html |
| 04:24.01 | reqol | nope :( it was just overwhelmingly suggested by plenty of people |
| 04:24.03 | reqol | so I took it up |
| 04:24.21 | Paene | Java's a good first language to learn, forces you to do things the right way :-p |
| 04:24.23 | hyperChipmunk | oh, the new ignobels are out |
| 04:24.29 | hyperChipmunk | gay bomb lol |
| 04:24.43 | NimbleRabit | I'm learning Java as my first language in college right now |
| 04:24.45 | Wobwork | The bank robber net is great |
| 04:24.46 | reqol | do I have to worry about garbage in lua or is it automatic |
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| 04:24.57 | Paene | then, if you ever learn C++, you'll realize the doing things the right way isn't always the best way :) |
| 04:24.59 | Wobwork | reqol: fairly much automatic |
| 04:25.10 | Paene | *that |
| 04:25.11 | hyperChipmunk | LINGUISTICS: Juan Manuel Toro, Josep Trobalon and Nuria Sebastian-Galles for demonstrating that rats can't tell the difference between a person speaking Japanese backward and a person speaking Dutch backward. |
| 04:25.19 | Wobwork | Love that one =) |
| 04:25.41 | hyperChipmunk | neither can i! |
| 04:26.06 | Wobwork | I can't tell the difference between someone speaking dutch forwards, let alone backwards |
| 04:26.10 | hyperChipmunk | lol |
| 04:26.17 | hyperChipmunk | PEACE: The U.S. Air Force's Wright Laboratory for their proposed "gay bomb," a chemical weapon to make enemy soldiers sexually attracted to each other. |
| 04:26.25 | hyperChipmunk | the category makes that 10x funnier |
| 04:26.41 | hyperChipmunk | ECONOMICS: Kuo Cheng Hsieh for patenting a device that drops a net over bank robbers. |
| 04:26.45 | hyperChipmunk | that one too |
| 04:26.50 | Wobwork | yeah =) |
| 04:29.05 | Ellipsis | lulz |
| 04:29.11 | Ellipsis | I see what you did there |
| 04:29.54 | Paene | reqol: The best way to decide if you like something or not is to give it a try. Everyone ends up having their own favorite language(s). And now that you know one language, it'll be far easier to pick up others and to determine their strengths and weaknesses. |
| 04:30.07 | Paene | Speaking of new languages, anyone here ever coded in lisp or scheme? |
| 04:30.09 | sedatedChipmunk | g'night folks; try to keep things civil |
| 04:30.12 | reqol | Paene: yeah, I'm already starting to like lua |
| 04:30.14 | reqol | it seems convenient |
| 04:30.28 | sedatedChipmunk | convenient is a great way to describe it |
| 04:30.57 | Paene | No lisp/scheme coders here? |
| 04:31.05 | sedatedChipmunk | me, but i'm sleeping |
| 04:31.08 | Paene | lol |
| 04:31.10 | Paene | ok |
| 04:31.12 | Paene | another time then |
| 04:31.17 | Ellipsis | I want an interface to IRC in my sleep... |
| 04:31.30 | Paene | just had some questions :) gotta take one of them as a class next semester |
| 04:31.38 | sedatedChipmunk | it's only been tested on rodents |
| 04:31.42 | Ellipsis | you know people can actually communicate while sleeping/dreaming |
| 04:31.47 | Ellipsis | using sequences of eye movements |
| 04:31.48 | reqol | how exactly does this work? 10 .. "" == "10" |
| 04:32.09 | Ellipsis | so for example in sleep studies they can transmit information about what they're dreaming |
| 04:32.11 | Ellipsis | while dreaming it |
| 04:32.32 | Paene | reqol: that's the same thing that gets me in lua, the syntax |
| 04:32.32 | NightHawkTheSane | reqol: concatenating an int with a string implicitly converts the int into a string. |
| 04:32.34 | sedatedChipmunk | my dog and i growl at each other in our sleep |
| 04:32.37 | Xinhuan | reqol: you are concantenating a number to a string |
| 04:32.39 | sedatedChipmunk | so i'm told |
| 04:32.49 | Xinhuan | concantenation converts both operands to a string |
| 04:32.52 | reqol | I get that part, but it just doesn't compute in my head |
| 04:32.55 | Ellipsis | ok that's just weird |
| 04:32.57 | Xinhuan | so the result is a string |
| 04:32.58 | Ellipsis | a chipmunk growling? |
| 04:32.59 | reqol | so |
| 04:33.03 | sedatedChipmunk | gerr |
| 04:33.04 | reqol | I get it |
| 04:33.15 | Ellipsis | reqol, same thing happens in Java o.O |
| 04:33.15 | reqol | nevermind |
| 04:33.17 | Paene | .. is used to connect non-strings with strings |
| 04:33.19 | Ellipsis | well, with .equals() instead of == |
| 04:33.29 | NightHawkTheSane | Paene: no... ".." is the concatenation operator |
| 04:33.34 | NightHawkTheSane | it doesnt matter what you use it with |
| 04:33.50 | reqol | ooo, getting to the juicy stuff, tables |
| 04:33.50 | Paene | isn't that what I said, just in lamens terms? |
| 04:34.01 | sedatedChipmunk | layman |
| 04:34.04 | Paene | or was I wrong in the specification of strings and non-strings? |
| 04:34.05 | sedatedChipmunk | unless you meant lamer |
| 04:34.06 | Xinhuan | .. converts both operands to strings, that's all |
| 04:34.13 | NightHawkTheSane | && |
| 04:34.15 | NightHawkTheSane | er, ^^ |
| 04:34.18 | Ellipsis | Paene, works on two strings too for example |
| 04:34.21 | sedatedChipmunk | || |
| 04:34.30 | Paene | what about two numbers? |
| 04:34.37 | NightHawkTheSane | it'll convert both to strings, and return a string |
| 04:34.40 | Ellipsis | ^ |
| 04:34.42 | Paene | nice |
| 04:34.44 | sedatedChipmunk | 2..3 : '23' |
| 04:34.45 | NightHawkTheSane | 1 .. 2 = "12" |
| 04:34.48 | reqol | the one thing I hate about arrays is when they start with 0 |
| 04:34.59 | NightHawkTheSane | reqol: ... you're going to hate every sane programming language, then |
| 04:35.01 | Ellipsis | they don't start with anything in lua! |
| 04:35.04 | sedatedChipmunk | none of that here |
| 04:35.15 | Ellipsis | and they're not arrays anymore |
| 04:35.19 | Paene | tables :) |
| 04:35.21 | Wobwork | tables =P |
| 04:35.22 | Gnarfoz | http://img72.imageshack.us/img72/5600/mc3kuw7ucdtlyl2.jpg |
| 04:35.28 | sedatedChipmunk | the closest analog--a table index--defaults to 1 |
| 04:35.37 | Paene | what's the difference between a meta-table and table? |
| 04:35.38 | Ellipsis | eww, Gnarfoz |
| 04:35.41 | reqol | well, not that I hate it anymore, but at first it seemed sort of arbitrary |
| 04:35.41 | Ellipsis | that's just creepy |
| 04:35.45 | Paene | I've seen both terms used |
| 04:35.46 | reqol | I got used to it after a while |
| 04:35.47 | NightHawkTheSane | sedatedChipmunk: and that annoys the crap out of me |
| 04:35.50 | sedatedChipmunk | don't worry about metatables |
| 04:36.05 | Wobwork | Gnarfoz: wtf uts? |
| 04:36.17 | sedatedChipmunk | they're used to do strange magicks |
| 04:36.20 | Paene | sedatedChipmunk: sounds like good advice to me |
| 04:36.23 | Wobwork | or maybe not =P |
| 04:36.27 | Wobwork | It just looks like my campus =P |
| 04:36.31 | NightHawkTheSane | Gnarfoz: link the other half of that picture. ;) |
| 04:36.35 | ckknight | "1" + "2" == 3 |
| 04:36.38 | Xinhuan | a metatable is a special property that a table can have -- you won't need this 99% of the time |
| 04:36.40 | ckknight | 1 .. 2 == "23" |
| 04:36.40 | Ellipsis | Wobwork, l2read t-shirts |
| 04:36.57 | Wobwork | Ellipsis: That's why I said or maybe not =P |
| 04:36.59 | Gnarfoz | NightHawkTheSane: too bad I'm nowhere near where that picture was taken ;) |
| 04:37.00 | Ellipsis | yeah :P |
| 04:37.19 | Ellipsis | at first glance I was like "hey I know that room" as well...the only problem is there's one like that at every college :P |
| 04:37.20 | Gnarfoz | and no, it's likely Missouri from what I've read where I got the link ;) |
| 04:37.30 | NightHawkTheSane | (to be sure, the other half of the picture is the other half of the lecture hall, with more or less the same thing.. shittons of macs :P) |
| 04:38.08 | NightHawkTheSane | I saw it linked I think on Daring Fireball, and the comment was made "I feel sorry for the poor guy in the front row with a pc." |
| 04:38.12 | Gnarfoz | awesome picture anyway :D |
| 04:38.17 | Ellipsis | ok guys, how many non-apple computers can you count in that picture? |
| 04:38.23 | Ellipsis | I'm up to 4 |
| 04:38.38 | Gnarfoz | I bet the guy fleeing up the stairs could be counted as one |
| 04:38.38 | Gnarfoz | :D |
| 04:38.54 | NightHawkTheSane | "Ahhh! apples! flee!!!!" |
| 04:39.00 | sedatedChipmunk | that red-light one on the left, about 6 rows back |
| 04:39.09 | Ellipsis | I would be fleeing with him if I was in that room |
| 04:39.15 | NightHawkTheSane | also: tomorrow's xkcd wins so fucking hard. |
| 04:39.19 | sedatedChipmunk | a few right up in the center |
| 04:39.21 | NightHawkTheSane | Ellipsis: aww, no mac love? ;) |
| 04:39.22 | Wobwork | NightHawkTheSane: so true |
| 04:39.36 | Ellipsis | mac love? |
| 04:39.42 | Ellipsis | that's like saying goat love |
| 04:39.44 | sedatedChipmunk | so does the day-after's |
| 04:39.46 | Ellipsis | it's just wrong |
| 04:40.16 | sedatedChipmunk | haha that's great |
| 04:40.17 | NightHawkTheSane | you know the mac pros by default ship with two optical drive slots, but only one of the bays has a drive in it in the standard configuration. |
| 04:40.20 | NightHawkTheSane | plenty of room. :D |
| 04:40.40 | sedatedChipmunk | check out the girl in the blue shirt in row 4 |
| 04:40.42 | Gnarfoz | some of the best laptops around these days, I'd get one if I had the cash flowing around ;) |
| 04:40.47 | ckknight | I think we could all get along better if we all watched and learn from Kid Nation |
| 04:40.53 | sedatedChipmunk | she doesn't have any computer at all O_o |
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| 04:41.00 | sedatedChipmunk | nor does the one just in front of her |
| 04:41.16 | Gnarfoz | the guy in yellow on the left |
| 04:41.18 | Ellipsis | and she looks quite smug about it too |
| 04:41.19 | Gnarfoz | pen + paper ;) |
| 04:41.40 | Wobwork | oldskool |
| 04:41.49 | sedatedChipmunk | no, his mac just got stolen by the striped shirt guy on the steps |
| 04:42.20 | Ellipsis | sedatedChipmunk, you're very talkative for a sleeping person |
| 04:42.21 | reqol | is there no way to reference to a variable when using dot notation to reference a table? |
| 04:42.21 | sedatedChipmunk | see, he's just taking his pen out; he wasn't expecting to use it |
| 04:42.31 | Recluse | the front row girl in blue looks like she just realized the guy next to her is whacking off to granny porn on his mac |
| 04:42.40 | sedatedChipmunk | no, dot is shorthand for a string in brackets |
| 04:42.42 | Ellipsis | lol |
| 04:42.53 | sedatedChipmunk | if you want a variable resolution, you use the brackets |
| 04:42.57 | reqol | okay, thanks : ) |
| 04:43.12 | Ellipsis | I like water bottle girl in the bottom left |
| 04:43.13 | sedatedChipmunk | that's important |
| 04:43.23 | Ellipsis | she's like "wait...wtf do I do with this? my laptop takes up the whole desk!" |
| 04:43.43 | sedatedChipmunk | foo = "bar" t.foo is t["foo"], not t["bar"] |
| 04:44.17 | ckknight | t[foo] is t["bar"] |
| 04:44.41 | sedatedChipmunk | yeah, i would have typed that if i wasn't sleeping |
| 04:44.46 | Ellipsis | right |
| 04:44.56 | Ellipsis | if you're sleeping, how did you look at that picture? |
| 04:45.07 | sedatedChipmunk | chipper mind powerz |
| 04:45.09 | Gnarfoz | brb, trying to solve gamma issues... again |
| 04:45.11 | Ellipsis | hax |
| 04:45.29 | sedatedChipmunk | ((O)) ((O)) |
| 04:45.47 | sedatedChipmunk | bweooowwoeeeowwoeeeoow |
| 04:46.07 | Wobwork | All hail the hypnotoad! |
| 04:46.11 | Wobwork | *clapclap* |
| 04:46.12 | Sedai| | boo. |
| 04:46.16 | Gnarfoz | ah before I go |
| 04:46.28 | Gnarfoz | anyone else had severe issues with Recount recently? |
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| 04:48.44 | Gnarfoz | like, this |
| 04:48.45 | Gnarfoz | http://ace.pastey.net/74862 |
| 04:49.15 | Paene | I'm out guys, until tomorrow! |
| 04:50.18 | Fin | ckknight: my Cartographer Look'n'Feel settings never seem to save |
| 04:50.25 | RogueShadow | Ellipsis, at this point it could take me a billion years to convert DurabilityFu to rock.. |
| 04:50.25 | *** part/#wowace Paene (n=Jim@24-236-181-169.dhcp.mrqt.mi.charter.com) |
| 04:50.30 | RogueShadow | Don't wait |
| 04:50.57 | Sole | waasaaap |
| 04:51.11 | Sole | isnt DurabilityFu hellza simple? |
| 04:51.35 | Shadowed | btw sole did you ever figure out the format you were using for your syncing |
| 04:51.35 | Ellipsis | not as simple as one might think |
| 04:51.50 | Sole | Shadowed: what format? :P |
| 04:51.54 | Shadowed | for your arena mod |
| 04:51.57 | Shadowed | the new one |
| 04:52.16 | Sole | cockfight? |
| 04:52.25 | Shadowed | yea |
| 04:52.45 | Shadowed | you know, the syncing format for when you mouseover/target a new player? =p |
| 04:52.46 | Sole | hmmm format format ...format |
| 04:52.54 | Sole | hang on |
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| 04:53.31 | RogueShadow | Simple is an overrated concept. It would be simple if I were an expert. Or even remotely close to knowledgeable in addon contruction with ace/rock frameworks |
| 04:53.56 | Sole | self:SendCommMessage("BATTLEGROUND", "Add", name, class, health, talents) |
| 04:53.58 | Gnarfoz | also, ckknight, http://geektour.de/~smallbrain/wow/pitbull_castbar_and_buffs.jpg <- since recently, castbars are not removed correctly when the unit the frame refers to changes (ToT in this case, the mob switched to a paladin to cast something on him, then switched back to the tank), and there's a blank line of... buffs or debuffs, whichever, they float instead of being one row lower =) |
| 04:54.14 | Sole | Shadowed: I dont see further need to alter that |
| 04:54.20 | Shadowed | I thought you said you weren't using a comm library! |
| 04:54.26 | Shadowed | wasn't asking you to alter that, was figuring out what to check for in SSPVP |
| 04:54.47 | Recluse | lol@flash of light casting warrior |
| 04:54.51 | Sole | hmm |
| 04:55.00 | Sole | havent decided if I'll use a comm lib yet shadowed |
| 04:55.03 | smoke_ | is there a ace version of tradedispenser? |
| 04:55.04 | Sole | depends on ace3 |
| 04:55.10 | Sole | I might do it in rock |
| 04:55.20 | Shadowed | dunno if they're adding memo to ace3 |
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| 04:55.21 | Sole | but rock seems a bit too much like a rock |
| 04:55.23 | Gnarfoz | Recluse: yeah, got weird other ones to, but obviously it wasn't the warrior ;> |
| 04:55.30 | Shadowed | i hope not |
| 04:55.34 | Recluse | very amusing |
| 04:55.38 | Sole | Shadowed: not gonna use memo, you'll cut my balls off if I do |
| 04:55.44 | Shadowed | exactly |
| 04:55.52 | Gnarfoz | no errors though, so I really have no idea what's causing it |
| 04:55.54 | Shadowed | :D |
| 04:56.09 | Sole | ALRIGHTY THEN |
| 04:56.18 | Shadowed | SSPVP will probably be moved to Ace3 once it's ready anyway, so either way |
| 04:56.23 | Shadowed | depends on the end result |
| 04:56.26 | Sole | indeed |
| 04:56.29 | Sole | ace3 looks cool |
| 04:56.35 | Shadowed | except for [Ammo] working on it |
| 04:56.36 | Shadowed | he sucks |
| 04:56.41 | Sole | hes terribad |
| 04:56.48 | Wobwork | Sucking is a bad thing? |
| 04:56.52 | Wobwork | <.< |
| 04:56.54 | Wobwork | >.> |
| 04:56.58 | Shadowed | no comment |
| 04:56.58 | Sole | depends on suction |
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| 04:57.09 | Wobwork | Golf ball through a garden hose? |
| 04:57.16 | Sole | o_O |
| 04:57.30 | Sole | Shadowed: are you using any framework with SSPVP? Dongle? |
| 04:57.35 | Shadowed | yea |
| 04:57.39 | Sole | hmm |
| 04:57.54 | Shadowed | that doesn't do comm thought |
| 04:58.03 | Sole | Im going to have to think of some innovate features for cockfight |
| 04:58.38 | Sole | currently Proximo kinda jacked Gladiator's shit (not literally) |
| 04:58.43 | Shadowed | what'd it do |
| 04:58.49 | Shadowed | you both probably copied off me! |
| 04:58.53 | Sole | lies |
| 04:59.08 | Sole | I only found out SSPVP existed after I comitted gladiator |
| 04:59.15 | Shadowed | LIKELY STORY |
| 04:59.25 | Sole | ITS TRUE! I SWEARS |
| 04:59.33 | Shadowed | i stole proximo's basic UF layout just made it smaller |
| 04:59.45 | Sole | proximo sole my UF layout |
| 04:59.46 | Sole | so you stole mine |
| 04:59.48 | Sole | HA! |
| 05:00.00 | Shadowed | gladiator is big and builky, proximo didn't look anything like that |
| 05:00.03 | Shadowed | except for the stupid header |
| 05:00.13 | Sole | btw I dont actually know if it did steal my layout but I saw an SS of proximo |
| 05:00.18 | Sole | and asked the people in here to tell me what it was |
| 05:00.19 | CIA-12 | 03sylvanaar 07sylvanaar * r51000 10Prat/Talented/: Talented: branch for display of data from armory via clipboard |
| 05:00.21 | Sole | coz it didnt have the header |
| 05:00.24 | Sole | and people said gladiator |
| 05:00.25 | Shadowed | it did when i saw |
| 05:00.27 | Sole | and I was like WUT? |
| 05:00.31 | Shadowed | had a "Proximo" header |
| 05:00.37 | Sole | yeah it can be hidden now |
| 05:00.47 | Shadowed | I don't think they're going to forget what addon it is =D |
| 05:00.48 | Sole | proximo is basically a completed gladiator |
| 05:00.59 | Sole | so I'll have to think of something |
| 05:01.04 | Sole | for one Im planning on pet frames |
| 05:01.08 | Sole | well pet casting bar |
| 05:01.10 | Shadowed | SSPVP does htat =p |
| 05:01.10 | Sole | and pet health |
| 05:01.14 | Sole | and pet cooldown |
| 05:01.16 | Xinhuan | sylvanaar: there's already such an addon on ui.incgamers.com, you can possibly refer to it ;p |
| 05:01.16 | Sole | WUT |
| 05:01.18 | Sole | STOLE MY IDEAS |
| 05:01.25 | Shadowed | it always has wtf |
| 05:01.30 | Sole | yeah right |
| 05:01.41 | Sole | I'll believe it when I see it |
| 05:01.42 | Shadowed | I wanted to add some sort of casting bar to the arena frames, but it'd be kind of hackish and ugly I think |
| 05:01.46 | Shadowed | rather just make people use NECB |
| 05:01.52 | Sole | NECB = devil |
| 05:01.55 | Shadowed | whatever whiny |
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| 05:02.04 | Shadowed | IF YOU DONT LIKE IT DO IT YOURSELF |
| 05:02.04 | Sole | oh no you didnt |
| 05:02.07 | Sole | I DID |
| 05:02.11 | Shadowed | you did? |
| 05:02.14 | Sole | its called Antagonist |
| 05:02.19 | Shadowed | oh |
| 05:02.24 | Wobwork | hehe |
| 05:02.25 | Sole | shitty name |
| 05:02.26 | Shadowed | I don't really pay attention to the wowace files thing so didn't know that! |
| 05:02.32 | Sole | I wanna change it |
| 05:02.40 | Wobwork | to? |
| 05:02.44 | Shadowed | CastyMcCast |
| 05:02.46 | Shadowed | change it to that |
| 05:02.48 | Sole | FaceMelt |
| 05:02.50 | Sole | lolol |
| 05:02.53 | Wobwork | CastyMcCastCast |
| 05:02.58 | Shadowed | lol |
| 05:03.01 | Sole | lol |
| 05:03.11 | Sole | Weezard |
| 05:03.17 | Sole | I like your one better |
| 05:03.22 | Shadowed | weezard? |
| 05:03.28 | Sole | forget that |
| 05:03.32 | Shadowed | lol |
| 05:03.39 | Sole | its terribad |
| 05:04.09 | Wobwork | PlasterFunHouse |
| 05:04.15 | Sole | cast bars in an arena monitor would be hacking yes |
| 05:04.25 | Sole | s/hacking/hackish/ |
| 05:04.31 | Sole | and ugly |
| 05:04.33 | Shadowed | I don't think anyones let you customize the click function yet |
| 05:04.36 | Sole | somewhat |
| 05:04.36 | Shadowed | like so you can add your own macro |
| 05:04.43 | Sole | Shadowed: nurfed does I think |
| 05:04.50 | Shadowed | Nurfed has an arena frame? |
| 05:04.52 | Sole | Shadowed: Im planning to in cockfight |
| 05:04.55 | Shadowed | yea so am i |
| 05:04.56 | Xinhuan | that would be incorrect |
| 05:04.56 | Sole | yes it does |
| 05:05.02 | Sole | PROVE ME WRONG |
| 05:05.03 | Shadowed | but I have to add a editbox to do that, and i'm lazy |
| 05:05.14 | Xinhuan | i believe there is addons that customize the click function already - proximo? |
| 05:05.23 | Shadowed | proximo only lets you do a single line I think |
| 05:05.26 | Xinhuan | you can set a spell for your rightclick-cast |
| 05:05.29 | Shadowed | or that |
| 05:05.30 | Xinhuan | in proximo? |
| 05:05.40 | Sole | Xinhuan: gladiator does that also |
| 05:05.42 | Shadowed | I meant as in, a full macro not just a single line or binding spells |
| 05:05.44 | reqol | the 'generic for' is chewing me up and spitting me out |
| 05:05.49 | Seerah | nn |
| 05:05.53 | Xinhuan | you can probably edit that easily though |
| 05:05.58 | Sole | Xinhuan: we are talking about executing a macro on click instead of a preset macro |
| 05:06.23 | Shadowed | dunno i'd have to look at proximo |
| 05:06.23 | Xinhuan | since the whole damn thing is just a /target <player> macro |
| 05:06.23 | Sole | Xinhuan: indeed it wouldnt be too bad |
| 05:06.23 | Xinhuan | replacing it with another macro isn't remotely difficult |
| 05:06.23 | Shadowed | yea it isn't |
| 05:06.23 | Sole | no it aint |
| 05:06.24 | Shadowed | it's just adding another configuration option =p |
| 05:06.29 | Sole | that hardesnt part is adding a config option |
| 05:06.30 | Shadowed | and that requires work omg |
| 05:06.32 | Sole | which is easy for me |
| 05:06.36 | Sole | not so easy for shadowed |
| 05:06.43 | Sole | l2guilib |
| 05:06.43 | Shadowed | it's easy i just haven't made HA do editboxes yet |
| 05:06.49 | Shadowed | i do, I have HA/OH wtfs |
| 05:06.58 | Sole | HA/OH dafck? |
| 05:07.12 | Shadowed | OptionHouse/HousingAuthority |
| 05:07.25 | Sole | hmm |
| 05:07.29 | Sole | yours Im presuming? |
| 05:07.29 | CIA-12 | 03sylvanaar 07sylvanaar * r51001 10Prat/Talented/ (6 files in 3 dirs): Talented: Includes the clipboard transfer utility, no link to the UI, /script Talented:StaticPopupClipboardImport("Lightbringer", "Sylvaan"), then cut and paste. |
| 05:07.39 | Shadowed | OH is joint between a few people, HA is mine |
| 05:07.54 | Sole | lemme guess |
| 05:08.04 | Sole | OH = waterfall HA = niagara |
| 05:08.11 | Shadowed | i dunno what either of those do yet so no idea |
| 05:08.17 | Sole | waterfall = gui lib |
| 05:08.24 | Shadowed | OH makes the configuration window, HA creates the actual widgets |
| 05:08.30 | Shadowed | sounds like it then |
| 05:08.33 | Sole | niagara = uses waterfall to create a gui for all addons using an aceoptions table, kinda like deucecommander except with a gui |
| 05:08.41 | Shadowed | yea |
| 05:08.51 | Shadowed | It's just meant for UI, not creating a slash command table into GUI |
| 05:09.09 | Sole | yeah well thats one of the things being discussed for ace3 |
| 05:09.22 | Shadowed | ehs? |
| 05:09.32 | Sole | the config style |
| 05:09.37 | Sole | I read it on jira |
| 05:09.40 | Sole | they were all |
| 05:09.45 | Sole | GUI OR SLASH YO? |
| 05:09.49 | Sole | and peeps was all GUI |
| 05:09.51 | Shadowed | yea |
| 05:09.53 | Sole | ^ true story |
| 05:10.13 | Shadowed | slash commands turned into GUI is uglys |
| 05:10.18 | Sole | indeed |
| 05:10.27 | Sole | slash commands are annoying in WoW for some reason |
| 05:10.33 | Sole | theyre just icky |
| 05:10.44 | Shadowed | not bad for basic configuration, just not 5000 commands |
| 05:10.44 | Sole | unless youre the addon author and know every single one |
| 05:10.49 | Sole | yes |
| 05:10.50 | Shadowed | acetab go! |
| 05:10.58 | Sole | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:11.04 | Shadowed | yea |
| 05:11.10 | Xinhuan | pretty sure every addon author should just write their own GUI config tailored to their own addon :) |
| 05:11.13 | Sole | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:11.31 | Shadowed | lol |
| 05:11.33 | Sole | Xinhuan: probably yes |
| 05:11.33 | Nargiddley | an ace options table doesnt have to be ugly in a gui |
| 05:11.34 | Gnarfoz | bleh, Gamma problems not fixed |
| 05:11.40 | Shadowed | it depends what you're doing |
| 05:11.50 | Shadowed | like 99% of the time, a generic GUI config is fine |
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| 05:12.00 | Gnarfoz | Xinhuan: please don't, if it can be avoided ;-) |
| 05:12.10 | Nargiddley | Waterfall isnt the best way of doing it, and its going to be alot better |
| 05:12.10 | Xinhuan | you haven't seen Ratingbuster's config have you? |
| 05:12.16 | NightHawkTheSane | the problem with slash commands in wow is twofold: 1) lack of a "man" command, 2) lack of a particularly good way of parsing cli options |
| 05:12.18 | Xinhuan | 4 lvls deep in some parts |
| 05:12.21 | Shadowed | i avoid configuring RB |
| 05:12.26 | NightHawkTheSane | if those were resolved, there'd be no real problem with slash commands |
| 05:12.27 | Sole | Nargiddley: new addons which create the ace opts table for the gui look good, the ones which were designed for slash look a bit weird sometimes |
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| 05:12.33 | Xinhuan | you can easily write a good tabbed GUI for it |
| 05:12.54 | Xinhuan | better than the way an aceconfigtable can present it |
| 05:13.00 | Gnarfoz | hm |
| 05:13.01 | Xinhuan | because its so generic |
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| 05:13.14 | Sole | < never done tabbed gui |
| 05:13.18 | Sole | is it the easymode? |
| 05:13.18 | Shadowed | tabbed gui? |
| 05:13.21 | Shadowed | wtf is tabbed gui |
| 05:13.27 | Xinhuan | the AH has 3 tabs |
| 05:13.29 | Sole | like the blizz windows |
| 05:13.31 | Gnarfoz | tabbed like in... tabs? ;p |
| 05:13.33 | Sole | with tabs |
| 05:13.41 | Sole | like your character window |
| 05:13.43 | Shadowed | OH is like |
| 05:13.45 | Xinhuan | your character window has 4 tabs |
| 05:13.48 | Shadowed | exactly the HA look =p |
| 05:13.51 | Shadowed | AH* |
| 05:13.55 | Nargiddley | well its going to be a new format, but theres going to be the tools to create the style of gui thats right for your addon |
| 05:14.06 | Xinhuan | Itemrack 4 tabs too |
| 05:14.09 | Xinhuan | if you use that |
| 05:14.16 | Sole | narg, is this in ace3? |
| 05:14.20 | Nargiddley | yes |
| 05:14.33 | Sole | like what tools? |
| 05:14.40 | Xinhuan | the thing is, a good designed GUI > a generically generated one |
| 05:14.41 | Sole | and I realise I could go read jira |
| 05:14.42 | Shadowed | I'd assume a way to do columns and just grouping |
| 05:14.59 | Nargiddley | tree, tabs, dropdown groups , inline groups nested however you want |
| 05:15.05 | Sole | Xinhuan: only problem is it can be painfully annoying to create a GUI |
| 05:15.14 | Shadowed | not exactly Xinhuan |
| 05:15.18 | Shadowed | it entirely depends what you're doing |
| 05:15.25 | Xinhuan | yep but a generic one is hard to navigate on occasion |
| 05:15.30 | Shadowed | only if they're badly done |
| 05:15.33 | Nargiddley | and not stuck with controls stretched to full width or a single column |
| 05:15.44 | Shadowed | most addons really don't need a custom UI, they only have 5-10 options and can be done with a generic thing easly |
| 05:15.55 | Xinhuan | lets take for example, an addon with 10 boolean options. |
| 05:15.56 | Shadowed | if you're doing say, a raid frame then you probably want something a bit more custom |
| 05:16.07 | Xinhuan | a dewdrop menu can easily display that with ticks for on/off |
| 05:16.15 | Xinhuan | however RockConfig changes that into 10 checkboxes |
| 05:16.15 | Nargiddley | you could have 10 check boxes in a window nothing else |
| 05:16.20 | Shadowed | that'd look ugly |
| 05:16.22 | Nargiddley | no need for a tree |
| 05:16.25 | Shadowed | i'd rather have 10 checkboxes |
| 05:16.37 | Nargiddley | if you want to have a gui for it other than a dropdown menu that is |
| 05:16.38 | neenee | Hm. Spelling error in TweakHub_RWFilter - In the Description, 'filering' should be 'filtering' |
| 05:16.41 | Grum | [23:59:06]+<aestil> i wanted to talk about his farming module. <-- POKIE |
| 05:16.56 | Sole | ^ POKIE URFASE |
| 05:17.01 | Xinhuan | so the question is, is a dewdrop with 10 options better than a window with 10 checkboxes? |
| 05:17.09 | Sole | for me it is |
| 05:17.12 | neenee | Hm. And in WoWAceUpdater 2.0 (that Java thing), Description is mis-spelled too. It says 'Descriprtion', one 'r' too many |
| 05:17.22 | Nargiddley | well, thats going to be an option as well |
| 05:17.33 | Grum | neenee, its feature rrrrrrrrich ^^ |
| 05:17.44 | Nargiddley | but if its 3 checkboxes an text entry and a slider, then a dropdown isnt as suited. |
| 05:17.54 | Sole | indeed |
| 05:18.06 | Nargiddley | but a simple config screen with only those controls will be possible |
| 05:18.07 | Xinhuan | consider some of the menus in WoW, they are essentially "dropdown menus" with ticks for options, like the FLoating Chat Frames |
| 05:18.22 | Grum | ~seen aestil |
| 05:18.24 | purl | aestil <n=tim_glas@cpe-72-129-96-142.socal.res.rr.com> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 4h 55m 34s ago, saying: 'cya laterz guys.'. |
| 05:18.30 | Ellipsis | fail. |
| 05:18.35 | Grum | stupid users who log of irc! |
| 05:18.37 | durcyn | duh, the answer is obviously to write a java app with advertisements that maniplates the savedvars files directly. |
| 05:18.54 | durcyn | can't believe no one else thought of it, i want royalties when the money starts rolling in |
| 05:19.07 | Sole | ha wha? |
| 05:19.14 | dylanm | Did someone say royalties??? |
| 05:19.17 | Ellipsis | ohshi, durcyn just won the internets |
| 05:19.21 | Shadowed | damnit |
| 05:19.26 | Shadowed | i keep confusing durcyn and dylanm |
| 05:19.26 | durcyn | YOU HEARD ME SOLE |
| 05:19.30 | Shadowed | your names are too similiar wtfs |
| 05:19.32 | Sole | NO I DIDNT |
| 05:19.36 | dylanm | Shadowed: Sorry :( |
| 05:19.39 | durcyn | or read, whatever |
| 05:19.50 | dylanm | Shadowed: I'll call up my parents and yell at them some more. |
| 05:19.55 | Shadowed | dylanm good get on it |
| 05:20.17 | Shadowed | everyone needs numbers in front of their name imo |
| 05:21.00 | pur3Z3KZSole | sup |
| 05:21.21 | NightHawkTheSane | Shadowed: I prefer my policy of assigning each person a unique two-character prefix for their name, for ease of recognition and tab completion. |
| 05:21.27 | Sole | HAI I SUCK |
| 05:21.39 | pur3Z3KZSole | OH WATAF |
| 05:22.28 | Shadowed | NightHawkTheSane, I just see the d and the m at the end that looks like a n |
| 05:22.30 | Sole | thats not cool man |
| 05:22.40 | NightHawkTheSane | Sole: oh, but oh so amusing |
| 05:22.40 | Shadowed | at least you didn't use my name |
| 05:22.49 | Shadowed | last time someone tried i ghosted them |
| 05:22.49 | Sole | NightHawkTheSane: phony |
| 05:23.12 | NightHawkTheSane | ah, the joys of knowing how to use nickserv, eh? |
| 05:23.24 | Sole | so some jackass passworded my name on freenode like 2 years ago |
| 05:23.41 | Sole | so Ive been guessing passwords :( |
| 05:23.50 | Shadowed | lol |
| 05:23.58 | Wobwork | er |
| 05:23.59 | Wobwork | Sole |
| 05:24.01 | reqol | okay |
| 05:24.04 | Wobwork | You can get the account deleted |
| 05:24.06 | Wobwork | and reregister |
| 05:24.08 | Grum | haha indeed |
| 05:24.11 | Sole | orly? |
| 05:24.14 | Grum | that is how i got my name |
| 05:24.21 | Wobwork | just contact one of the freenode staff |
| 05:24.26 | Wobwork | hehe |
| 05:24.30 | Wobwork | ~fail sole |
| 05:24.30 | purl | sole: Fail. |
| 05:24.32 | Shadowed | lol |
| 05:24.33 | Sole | Wobwork: staff scare me |
| 05:24.36 | Grum | ~taser Sole |
| 05:24.36 | purl | ACTION stuns Sole with a taser, then drags Sole out into the middle of highway 666 |
| 05:24.42 | Grum | Shadowed: did you win? |
| 05:24.45 | Shadowed | did i win what |
| 05:24.51 | Shadowed | i always win, so probably |
| 05:24.51 | Grum | your epeen wow-cia fight |
| 05:24.55 | Sole | HAY U GUSY |
| 05:24.57 | Shadowed | wow-cia? |
| 05:24.58 | Shadowed | oh scrooge? |
| 05:25.06 | Sole | so I installed ubuntu 64-bit |
| 05:25.11 | Sole | but then I tried installing flash plugin for firefox |
| 05:25.13 | Sole | and it went OH SHIT |
| 05:25.19 | Grum | yup |
| 05:25.27 | Sole | so I figure maybe its easier to simply install 32bit ubuntu |
| 05:25.34 | Sole | I found the fix for the flash plugin |
| 05:25.36 | Shadowed | my current method gets around the check already, so I guess I did win |
| 05:25.37 | Sole | its some hackish shit |
| 05:25.41 | Shadowed | yays? |
| 05:25.47 | Grum | i wonder why |
| 05:25.49 | Sole | Ive got no problem with that |
| 05:25.51 | Shadowed | well |
| 05:25.57 | Shadowed | the fact that I hooked the addon info functions helped i bet |
| 05:26.10 | Sole | linux people halp |
| 05:26.13 | Grum | no, i wonder why you made scrooge |
| 05:26.14 | Wobwork | /who freenode/staff/* |
| 05:26.16 | Shadowed | oh |
| 05:26.22 | Shadowed | because somenoe wanted it |
| 05:26.23 | Shadowed | someone* |
| 05:26.41 | Sole | holy shit |
| 05:26.43 | Shadowed | i'll fill random requests from time to time |
| 05:26.43 | dylanm | Was that person... you? |
| 05:26.46 | Shadowed | nup |
| 05:26.53 | Shadowed | was someone from wowace or EJ forums, can't remember which |
| 05:26.55 | Sole | all the freenode staff are in the ubuntu channel |
| 05:26.57 | Sole | its like whoa |
| 05:27.11 | dylanm | lahk omghai |
| 05:27.13 | Grum | Shadowed: i bet you like the game .... cat and mouse |
| 05:27.21 | Sole | Grum: ooh ooh I do\ |
| 05:27.22 | Shadowed | it's amusing yes |
| 05:27.39 | Shadowed | but afaik he can't do anything that i can't block |
| 05:27.48 | Wobwork | Aside from what he did =P |
| 05:27.56 | Shadowed | I already broke the current stuff Wobwork |
| 05:28.10 | Grum | that is my conclusion as well, you should always win |
| 05:28.20 | Grum | but seriously, why bother? |
| 05:28.25 | Wobwork | It's a stupid game =P |
| 05:28.36 | Fisker- | ownt |
| 05:28.38 | Wobwork | I don't see why ck is bothering |
| 05:28.44 | Shadowed | er sec dying |
| 05:28.48 | Shadowed | damn elementals |
| 05:29.02 | dylanm | What class |
| 05:29.04 | Shadowed | druid |
| 05:29.12 | Shadowed | bear swipeswipeswipeswipeswipeswipeswipeswipeswipeswipeswipeswipeswipeswipeswipe |
| 05:29.18 | Fisker- | druid dying? riiiiiiight |
| 05:29.49 | dylanm | Heh I was in cat mostly... gahd that was borin' |
| 05:29.52 | Shadowed | they were all orange and it was 3 of them |
| 05:29.56 | Shadowed | but yea |
| 05:30.16 | Shadowed | Leveling is boring Grum, lots of time to think on how to break checks |
| 05:31.50 | Shadowed | we're not talking trying to break encryption anyway, it's simple stuff mostly |
| 05:39.03 | xyu | i can break stuff just by installing it, but that's different ^^ |
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| 05:39.52 | Funkeh` | gn |
| 05:39.58 | xyu | n |
| 05:43.35 | CIA-12 | 03toadkiller * r51002 10PeriodicTable-3.0/ (3 files in 2 dirs): |
| 05:43.35 | CIA-12 | PeriodicTable-3.0: |
| 05:43.35 | CIA-12 | - New goat mounts |
| 05:45.02 | NightHawkTheSane | your mom's a goat mount. |
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| 05:49.34 | CIA-12 | 03scorpio0920 * r51003 10Babble-2.2/Babble-Spell-2.2/Babble-Spell-2.2.lua: |
| 05:49.34 | CIA-12 | Babble-2.2: |
| 05:49.34 | CIA-12 | -Update zhTW translation. |
| 05:50.21 | Fisker- | just like your mother NightHawkTheSane |
| 05:50.31 | NightHawkTheSane | indeed. |
| 05:50.34 | Fisker- | the great thing is that she has no riding requirement |
| 05:50.39 | Fisker- | so even level 1's can mount her |
| 05:50.54 | NightHawkTheSane | well you know, some one has to have pity on you |
| 05:51.22 | Sole | hmm |
| 05:51.27 | Sole | so who here uses a 64 bit OS? |
| 05:51.33 | NightHawkTheSane | I do |
| 05:51.44 | Sole | which? |
| 05:51.49 | NightHawkTheSane | os x 10.4 |
| 05:52.10 | Fisker- | it's ten four! |
| 05:52.15 | a-stray-cat | i use two 64 bit os's! they've brought me nothing but trouble. |
| 05:52.21 | Fisker- | ten ten four infact |
| 05:52.34 | Fisker- | installing vista 64 bit later today :I |
| 05:53.06 | a-stray-cat | to get lame working in vista 64 i had to some some obsucre command at the command prompt o.o |
| 05:53.06 | Sole | eww vista |
| 05:53.14 | Fisker- | no u Sole |
| 05:53.18 | Fisker- | i won |
| 05:53.20 | Sole | its all yucky |
| 05:53.23 | Fisker- | i had the no u |
| 05:53.24 | Sole | no ur mom |
| 05:53.40 | Fisker- | doesn't count i was first |
| 05:53.45 | Sole | no |
| 05:53.48 | Fisker- | yes |
| 05:53.48 | Sole | anyway |
| 05:53.51 | Fisker- | no |
| 05:53.56 | Sole | Im trying to decide between 32 vs 64 |
| 05:54.12 | Sole | 64 has higher speeds but 32 has compatability |
| 05:54.12 | Fisker- | 64 bit should be awsum thx |
| 05:54.20 | ZealotOnAStick | which os, Sole? |
| 05:54.23 | a-stray-cat | ^ |
| 05:54.25 | Sole | ZealotOnAStick: ubuntu |
| 05:54.35 | a-stray-cat | you can install 32 bit stuff on 64 ubuntu |
| 05:54.35 | Sole | well not so much compatability |
| 05:54.45 | Sole | but less headache |
| 05:54.49 | a-stray-cat | you just have a couple extra hoops to jump through |
| 05:54.55 | Shadowed | 32 is sane |
| 05:54.58 | Shadowed | 64 isn't |
| 05:55.11 | Sole | ^ exactly |
| 05:55.26 | Shadowed | i |
| 05:55.29 | Shadowed | damn mobs |
| 05:55.29 | Sole | for example, I have to create a shell script to launch 32 bit firefox to support flash |
| 05:55.52 | Sole | I cant watch the youporns without the flashes |
| 05:55.54 | a-stray-cat | ive been using opera on linux o.O i like it |
| 05:56.05 | Sole | dont you still need a flash plugin for opera? |
| 05:56.13 | a-stray-cat | yeah, but opera only has 32 bit |
| 05:56.14 | a-stray-cat | lawl |
| 05:56.18 | a-stray-cat | so no problem there! |
| 05:56.19 | Sole | and firefox comes built into ubuntu and Ive been using firefox for too long now |
| 05:56.38 | Shadowed | i've had a 64-bit CPU for a while, but i still use 32-bit windows because i'm lazy and it's easier |
| 05:56.54 | Sole | Im running 32 bit windows |
| 05:56.59 | Shadowed | your face is 32-bit |
| 05:57.28 | Sole | your moms 32 |
| 05:57.35 | Sole | which makes you a teenage pregnancy child |
| 05:58.53 | *** join/#wowace Sole_ (n=chatzill@203.109.176.8) |
| 05:59.14 | Sole_ | I got DC |
| 05:59.19 | Sole_ | so like your reply is worthless |
| 05:59.50 | Sole_ | so like |
| 05:59.57 | Sole_ | how do I install 32 bit ubuntu over 64 bit ubuntu? |
| 05:59.57 | Shadowed | you weren't wroth the reply no problem =D |
| 06:00.04 | Shadowed | you say linux sucks because of that in #ubuntu |
| 06:00.07 | Shadowed | to get your answer |
| 06:00.16 | Sole_ | har? |
| 06:00.30 | Sole_ | Im in #ubuntu |
| 06:00.33 | Sole_ | but I know you people |
| 06:00.37 | Sole_ | ubuntu is new people |
| 06:00.39 | Sole_ | and they can bite |
| 06:00.41 | Shadowed | exactly |
| 06:00.43 | Shadowed | do it |
| 06:00.44 | Sole_ | and Im very fragile right now |
| 06:00.53 | Sole_ | EMOTIONALLY FRAGILE |
| 06:01.00 | *** join/#wowace ND (n=Miranda@h062040167062.gun.cm.kabsi.at) |
| 06:01.02 | Sole_ | do you want me to /wrists!? |
| 06:01.03 | Sole_ | DO YOU? |
| 06:01.51 | Shadowed | yes |
| 06:01.53 | ckknight | ...yes? |
| 06:02.07 | Shadowed | one less arena UF for competition |
| 06:02.11 | Shadowed | DO IT |
| 06:02.25 | Sole_ | =[ |
| 06:04.01 | Fisker- | http://www.escapistmagazine.com/articles/view/editorials/zeropunctuation/2304-Zero-Punctuation-Halo-3 <-QFT |
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| 06:07.17 | Sole_ | thats a funny |
| 06:07.19 | Sole_ | saw it yesterday |
| 06:08.16 | Molloy | anyone know if there's an ACE mod that can replace DoTimer (correctly) not chronometer? |
| 06:09.08 | Wobwork | <3 ZP |
| 06:09.33 | Molloy | the full name? |
| 06:09.43 | Shadowed | theres nothing called ACE here |
| 06:09.56 | Shadowed | oh |
| 06:09.57 | Shadowed | you meant Ace |
| 06:09.58 | Shadowed | I SEE |
| 06:10.00 | Molloy | yup |
| 06:10.29 | Shadowed | whooosh |
| 06:10.45 | Guillotine | lol |
| 06:10.58 | Molloy | anyone? |
| 06:11.08 | yssaril | is there any way to start java web start programs without clicking on the link on a website? is there some sort of webstart program that shows you which once you already have installed? |
| 06:11.15 | Guillotine | so, I have a pentium 2 with 128 MB of RAM now. Any ideas about what I can do with it? (Not footrest or door stopper) |
| 06:11.22 | Shadowed | paperweight |
| 06:11.32 | Guillotine | damn you Shadowed |
| 06:11.35 | Shadowed | =D |
| 06:11.38 | Guillotine | :P |
| 06:11.56 | sag_ich_nicht | ~stab Guillotine |
| 06:11.57 | purl | ACTION runs at Guillotine with an origami Swiss Army knife, and inflicts a nasty paper cut. |
| 06:12.17 | CIA-12 | 03ananhaid * r51004 10Omen/localization_zhCN.lua: |
| 06:12.17 | CIA-12 | Omen: |
| 06:12.17 | CIA-12 | - zhCN Updated |
| 06:12.25 | Guillotine | I really can't think of anything fun to do with it :( too slow to run any type of a server on |
| 06:12.38 | Shadowed | heater? |
| 06:12.41 | Shadowed | pillow? |
| 06:12.46 | Shadowed | chair? |
| 06:12.48 | Shadowed | desk? |
| 06:12.54 | Guillotine | heater was suggested in wowilounge :P |
| 06:12.56 | ramoz | ashtray? |
| 06:14.14 | Guillotine | lol |
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| 06:14.24 | Guillotine | I suppose maybe it'll just sit there |
| 06:14.27 | Guillotine | maybe I'll ninja the screen |
| 06:14.31 | ramoz | or wait |
| 06:14.32 | ramoz | i know |
| 06:14.38 | ramoz | you can do what normal people do |
| 06:14.42 | ramoz | throw it away |
| 06:14.43 | ramoz | ! |
| 06:15.07 | NightHawkTheSane | man, fuck that. there's always a use for an old computer. |
| 06:15.09 | ramoz | or, you can pull the CPU out, make a hole in it and add it to your key chain |
| 06:15.32 | NightHawkTheSane | Guillotine: you could turn it into a router? |
| 06:15.53 | Guillotine | NightHawkTheSane: already have one :( |
| 06:15.59 | Guillotine | I got it! |
| 06:16.08 | Guillotine | I'll write a program for it to calculate pi |
| 06:16.11 | Guillotine | and leave it running for a year |
| 06:16.13 | Guillotine | and see how far it gets |
| 06:16.23 | yssaril | lol |
| 06:16.28 | NightHawkTheSane | i think that also qualifies as a "heater" |
| 06:16.33 | Guillotine | lol |
| 06:17.18 | sag_ich_nicht | [08:12] <Guillotine> I really can't think of anything fun to do with it :( too slow to run any type of a server on <--you could sit in front of it and fix crossrealm whispers in telltrack. |
| 06:17.47 | Guillotine | nah, can't run WoW |
| 06:17.50 | Guillotine | nice idea though |
| 06:18.03 | Guillotine | I'll do that now :P |
| 06:18.16 | Guillotine | so what exactly is happening? It just isn't registering cross realm whispers? |
| 06:20.08 | Guillotine | sag? |
| 06:21.29 | sag_ich_nicht | Guillotine: i can't remember anymore, i think it was the old bug but with a new twist :X |
| 06:21.40 | Guillotine | and what was the old bug? |
| 06:22.14 | Birdemani | prat /tt ? |
| 06:22.19 | sag_ich_nicht | you know |
| 06:22.22 | Birdemani | it is putting a "-" on it |
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| 06:22.40 | sag_ich_nicht | the one where it wouldn't update the frame |
| 06:22.42 | Birdemani | so it looks like Birdemani- |
| 06:22.43 | sag_ich_nicht | :P |
| 06:22.49 | sag_ich_nicht | what. |
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| 06:24.17 | CIA-12 | 03ananhaid * r51005 10Mendeleev/Mendeleev.toc: |
| 06:24.17 | CIA-12 | Mendeleev: |
| 06:24.17 | CIA-12 | - 2.2 toc |
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| 06:25.38 | Guillotine_DC | nerf being d/cd:( |
| 06:26.12 | Guillotine | Birdemani: no, this probably isn't the right channel for it. But we're talking about telltrack (not an ace addon) |
| 06:29.09 | Birdemani | quick question: is the XLOOT frame reallllllly wide for everyone else? |
| 06:29.28 | Wobwork | all of a sudden, yeah =( |
| 06:29.35 | Wobwork | well it's really long for me =P |
| 06:36.51 | Recluse | should just be able to do a pattern match for a "-" at the end of the username string and remove it if it's there... doesn't sound too hard unless it's added after the message is sent |
| 06:37.24 | CIA-12 | 03ckknight * r51006 10LibRockConfig-1.0/LibRockConfig-1.0.lua: LibRockConfig-1.0 - give editboxes a beveled look |
| 06:38.05 | Sole_ | The USB 3.0 specifications will be finalized in the first half of 2008, but it will offer backward compatibility with existing USB 1.1/2.0 devices, ten times the performance of USB 2.0, energy efficiency improvements, and support for copper and optical interconnects. |
| 06:38.10 | Sole_ | cool |
| 06:38.17 | Sole_ | 10x usb 2.0 speed is fast |
| 06:38.34 | Sole_ | like kenya man running fast |
| 06:39.37 | NightHawkTheSane | interesting |
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| 06:40.03 | Fisker- | no old news! |
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| 06:47.14 | CIA-12 | 03ckknight * r51007 10LibRockConfig-1.0/LibRockConfig-1.0.lua: LibRockConfig-1.0 - a few touchups |
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| 06:48.34 | orionshock | wow.... some shit slinging happened today on the SVN of all places... |
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| 06:59.37 | CIA-12 | 03ckknight * r51008 10LibRockConfig-1.0/LibRockConfig-1.0.lua: LibRockConfig-1.0 - fix possible bug with inline groups |
| 07:01.15 | CIA-12 | 03kameril * r51009 10VisualThemes/VisualThemes.toc: |
| 07:01.15 | CIA-12 | VisualThemes: |
| 07:01.15 | CIA-12 | -Updated TOC |
| 07:02.01 | Recluse | on the svn? o.O crazy talk |
| 07:02.27 | orionshock | how does one guarantee that your addon loads first ? |
| 07:02.40 | Xinhuan | orionshock: impossible |
| 07:02.53 | ramoz | add a ! or two at the start? :O |
| 07:02.55 | orionshock | hehe... i figured someone would say that |
| 07:03.04 | Xinhuan | WoW loads addons in the order that the OS returns the folder listing (modified by dependencies) |
| 07:03.15 | sag_ich_nicht | thus |
| 07:03.35 | Xinhuan | for FAT32 harddisks, this is the natural order that the folders are in on the disk, for NTFS this is alphabetical order |
| 07:03.39 | Xinhuan | not sure about linux, etc |
| 07:03.58 | sag_ich_nicht | rename it to !!!!!!name and change all dates of the file to 1. 1. 1970. |
| 07:04.00 | sag_ich_nicht | :X |
| 07:04.10 | Xinhuan | meaning that defragging a FAT32 harddisk will change the order that addons are loaded |
| 07:04.42 | Marli | Reminds me, Bungie.net says I first played Halo 3 on January 1st 1753 |
| 07:04.43 | Marli | o.o |
| 07:04.48 | sag_ich_nicht | well stop using FAT32m it's a POS |
| 07:04.59 | sag_ich_nicht | -m |
| 07:05.03 | Xinhuan | why do you say that? |
| 07:05.19 | MoonWolf | cause its true |
| 07:05.26 | Fisker- | oh lawd |
| 07:05.28 | Fisker- | i had lulz |
| 07:05.44 | Fisker- | well Marli then you learned of your mistake 254 years ago |
| 07:05.47 | Xinhuan | well give some reasons why FAT32 is a POS :) |
| 07:05.52 | Fisker- | that's a good thing |
| 07:06.13 | sag_ich_nicht | Xinhuan: the answer is already in your question |
| 07:06.13 | Fisker- | Xinhuan you just gave them yourself? :I? |
| 07:06.20 | MoonWolf | cannot contain files of over 3 gigabits in size |
| 07:06.21 | orionshock | ... reason being is that im making a make shift addon that records the loading sequence of said addons |
| 07:06.23 | sag_ich_nicht | beat you to it Fisker- |
| 07:06.25 | MoonWolf | or somewhere along that number |
| 07:06.32 | Xinhuan | o_O |
| 07:06.36 | sag_ich_nicht | 2GB, actually |
| 07:06.39 | MoonWolf | gigabytes* |
| 07:06.40 | sag_ich_nicht | file allocation table is shitty |
| 07:06.49 | Fisker- | and now i found a link that goes 1MB/s |
| 07:06.50 | sag_ich_nicht | no journaling, meaning prone to data loss from power failure |
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| 07:06.51 | Fisker- | :/ |
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| 07:07.15 | Fisker- | Not to mention the size limits of FAT32 |
| 07:07.17 | sag_ich_nicht | no security options inate to the filesystem |
| 07:07.22 | Fisker- | which can only be fixed by making some hack |
| 07:07.24 | Xinhuan | i am going to say that the 2 gb limitation on FAT32 is incorrect |
| 07:07.36 | MoonWolf | low performance compared to newer file systems |
| 07:07.42 | Fisker- | It's either 2GB or 4GB |
| 07:07.44 | Xinhuan | the limit is actually 4 gb |
| 07:07.45 | Fisker- | and it is correct |
| 07:07.52 | sag_ich_nicht | Xinhuan what ever you say doesn't change the fact that FAT32 i shit. :X |
| 07:07.59 | orionshock | ... folder name = toc name ! not workie |
| 07:08.04 | Xinhuan | i never defended it sag_ich_nicht |
| 07:08.08 | eibit | anyone know if Rabbit comes here ? |
| 07:08.11 | Xinhuan | i merely asked for reasons why it is shit |
| 07:08.18 | Fisker- | Already tried that a couple of times because my usb drive came preformatted with FAT32 |
| 07:08.19 | sag_ich_nicht | ^^ |
| 07:08.25 | Arrowmaster | FAT32 is 4GB, FATX is 2GB |
| 07:08.27 | MoonWolf | also |
| 07:08.29 | Fisker- | didn't give it extra thought until i was about to transfer a DVD and it failed |
| 07:08.42 | MoonWolf | fat32 has a maximum partition size of 30 something |
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| 07:08.51 | Arrowmaster | no it doesnt |
| 07:08.58 | MoonWolf | it does not ? |
| 07:09.05 | Xinhuan | that's kind of irrelevant moonwolf - who would partition a drive into 30 parts? |
| 07:09.13 | Arrowmaster | windows disk formater has a really low max partition size for fat32 |
| 07:09.14 | MoonWolf | no no no |
| 07:09.18 | Arrowmaster | to get people to use ntfs |
| 07:09.28 | MoonWolf | the maximum size of a single partition in gigabytes is 30 somethingi think. |
| 07:09.32 | Arrowmaster | nope |
| 07:09.38 | MoonWolf | Arrowmaster, my mistake then |
| 07:09.40 | Arrowmaster | way way way higher |
| 07:09.48 | Xinhuan | oh heh ambiguous statement there ;p |
| 07:09.52 | Arrowmaster | atleast 2TB |
| 07:09.57 | MoonWolf | welll |
| 07:10.06 | MoonWolf | thats pretty damn deceptive of microsoft. |
| 07:10.10 | Arrowmaster | yup |
| 07:10.13 | Fisker- | well it's good MoonWolf |
| 07:10.14 | orionshock | oh wow that event is completely worthless |
| 07:10.16 | Fisker- | FAT = shit |
| 07:10.35 | phoenixphylo | since mendeleeve no longer has sell prices in the tooltip.... what would be a good replacement... i liked how mendeleeve did it's thing |
| 07:10.35 | vhaarr | eibit: I'm here |
| 07:10.45 | MoonWolf | the fat filesystems were fine in their time of conception |
| 07:10.46 | Tem | the only reason to use FAT32 is to read and write in linux |
| 07:10.46 | Fisker- | says 8TB according to wikipedia |
| 07:10.56 | sag_ich_nicht | Tem no. |
| 07:10.56 | MoonWolf | phoenixphylo, mend never did that. |
| 07:10.57 | MoonWolf | i think. |
| 07:10.59 | vhaarr | phoenixphylo: it was in there for 1 hour |
| 07:11.00 | Tem | which can be done with |
| 07:11.03 | sag_ich_nicht | 3G NTFS drivers |
| 07:11.04 | vhaarr | MoonWolf: it did, yesterday |
| 07:11.04 | Fisker- | Well Tem aren't NTFS support pretty good in Linux now? |
| 07:11.11 | vhaarr | MoonWolf: some chinese guy ninjacommitted it |
| 07:11.14 | MoonWolf | doh |
| 07:11.16 | Tem | Fisker-, I haven't tried it in nearly 4 years |
| 07:11.24 | Tem | so I imagine it's a lot better now |
| 07:11.28 | otravi | Fisker-: it can delete and overwrite only afaik |
| 07:11.32 | MoonWolf | how do you scream, out of scope in chinese ? |
| 07:11.32 | otravi | not create new files at least |
| 07:11.40 | sag_ich_nicht | otravi 3G drivers can |
| 07:11.44 | sag_ich_nicht | default drivers can't. |
| 07:11.59 | Xinhuan | ~pil |
| 07:12.00 | purl | pil is probably Programming in Lua, a book written by the authors of the Lua programming language. The first edition is available free online at http://www.lua.org/pil and covers Lua 5.0. The second edition is available in print from most online bookstores, and covers Lua 5.1. |
| 07:12.07 | otravi | I've only tried the defaults a couple of months ago :p |
| 07:12.28 | Fisker- | btw is it true that perpendular magnetic whatever harddrives can technically read fast than raptors? |
| 07:12.44 | sag_ich_nicht | ~3G |
| 07:12.50 | sag_ich_nicht | mhm |
| 07:12.51 | sag_ich_nicht | ~ntfs |
| 07:12.52 | purl | ntfs is probably Microsoft's attempt to create a Unix-like filesystem. linux-ntfs.sourceforge.net is a good source of information. http://linux-ntfs.sourceforge.net/ has patches against 2.4.20 of the backport of the 2.5.X ntfs [ntfs-tng] allowing overwrite without changing filesize. you need umask=022,gid=xxx to acces the partition as non-root. See also ... |
| 07:13.16 | sag_ich_nicht | see also you fail at life purl |
| 07:13.27 | Tem | ~fail purl |
| 07:13.27 | purl | purl: Fail. |
| 07:13.38 | Fisker- | ~whalenuke purl |
| 07:13.39 | purl | ACTION dons his radiation cloak and tinted glasses while a highly intelligent whale named Ray precipitates critical mass for uncontrolled nuclear fission around purl with his mind powers |
| 07:13.49 | sag_ich_nicht | nono |
| 07:13.50 | Xinhuan | ~fail RandomNickName |
| 07:13.51 | purl | RandomNickName: Fail. |
| 07:13.51 | Fisker- | ownt |
| 07:13.54 | sag_ich_nicht | ~whalecrit purl |
| 07:13.55 | purl | ACTION crits purl with a mathematically skilled whale named Isaac for #NaN. purl dies |
| 07:13.56 | sag_ich_nicht | pwnt. |
| 07:14.20 | liquidzoo | NTFS write support is fairly well supported now in Linux, but it could still cause issues. |
| 07:15.13 | Fisker- | I like how our ISP are ninja wizards |
| 07:15.17 | CIA-12 | 03grum 07WIP * r51010 10Cartographer_Routes/Cartographer_Routes/Core.lua: Cartographer_Routes: Updated configuration (poor cartoace users >:)) |
| 07:15.20 | Fisker- | "OMG we just limit binaries to 30kB/s" |
| 07:15.30 | Fisker- | "What do you mean there's no userlimit?" |
| 07:15.34 | Fisker- | :D |
| 07:15.49 | Grum | www.giganews.com |
| 07:15.52 | Fisker- | Have like 40 connections to the server to dwonload at full speed |
| 07:15.53 | Fisker- | :D |
| 07:16.13 | orionshock | oh wow http://ace.pastey.net/74863 |
| 07:16.17 | Fisker- | nah Grum wouldn't pay money for it :O |
| 07:16.34 | Fisker- | Retention on our server is also like 3 months atleast |
| 07:16.48 | orionshock | that with an applicable toc that saves that first var... will produce and entirely different load sequence each and every time.. |
| 07:17.34 | Grum | ofc it will |
| 07:17.42 | Grum | it only has to work, not be a static order |
| 07:17.53 | Grum | that would imply we could also manually adjust the order |
| 07:18.03 | Grum | which would imply that users will make fuckups and break the world |
| 07:18.28 | Grum | and Cartographer_Routes is nearly trunk-ready |
| 07:18.39 | Fisker- | like your mother lol |
| 07:18.51 | Grum | who commited suicide 2-3 years ago |
| 07:18.53 | Grum | yeah .. indeed |
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| 07:19.15 | Fisker- | oh i better get her out of the trunk then |
| 07:19.28 | Grum | kinda ashy in there |
| 07:19.43 | Fisker- | :( |
| 07:19.54 | Fisker- | you ruined my trunk!1 |
| 07:20.30 | Grum | blame my mom |
| 07:21.20 | helget | Anyone know if Recount (or any other Ace damagemeters) are as accurate as SW Stats? |
| 07:21.36 | Neebler | recount is sex |
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| 07:23.34 | Leialyn | swstats issn't accurate ;P |
| 07:24.28 | helget | well, I have no idea :p My guild was laughing at me when I pasted from DamageMeters though .. "SW Stats is the only good one! Everything else sucks!" was the message :P |
| 07:24.42 | helget | but I'd like to use something that's still has an author, preferably ace :P |
| 07:24.59 | Shadowed | I |
| 07:25.02 | Shadowed | I'd yell at you right now |
| 07:25.07 | Shadowed | but it's 12:30 AM and I don't feel like it |
| 07:25.15 | helget | doubt I'll hear it tbh |
| 07:25.35 | Xinhuan | are there any conclusive tests on the differences between the numbers recorded by SWStats vs Recount? |
| 07:25.59 | CIA-12 | 03ominous * r51011 10Tattle/ (38 files in 38 dirs): Tattle: daily run of the dataminer |
| 07:26.32 | ramoz | Xinhuan: well, it's about the same every time :P |
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| 07:26.41 | ramoz | helget: violation is probably your friend |
| 07:27.48 | Fisker- | oh how i love this prison system |
| 07:28.07 | helget | oki ramoz, thx |
| 07:28.23 | Fisker- | "We don't liek our foooooood" |
| 07:28.29 | Fisker- | Ok we'll give you something better |
| 07:28.40 | Fisker- | Think i'll complain about the locked doors when i get to jail then |
| 07:28.42 | Fisker- | :/ |
| 07:29.06 | ramoz | anyone know how to recover a administartor password? |
| 07:29.23 | ramoz | i took a computer out of our AD, and now i cant remember the local administartor pwd |
| 07:29.27 | yssaril | ramoz: admin pass for what? |
| 07:29.56 | Fisker- | http://home.eunet.no/pnordahl/ntpasswd/ |
| 07:30.08 | Fisker- | must say i never got it to work with XP SP2 and newer systems though |
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| 07:30.26 | Silowyi | heya |
| 07:30.29 | ramoz | well, its XP SP2 =( |
| 07:30.29 | Silowyi | cause I'm lazy |
| 07:30.34 | Silowyi | tonumber(nil) => 0? |
| 07:30.46 | Fisker- | ramoz you can still try though |
| 07:31.00 | Fisker- | quite some time since i last used it |
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| 07:31.56 | ramoz | Fisker-: i will try! |
| 07:31.58 | yssaril | last update of it was 09-27-07 and supposed to have vista support |
| 07:32.13 | Silowyi | can you do nil > 0? |
| 07:32.22 | Silowyi | I assume that would result as false |
| 07:32.26 | Xinhuan | tonumber(nil) returns nil |
| 07:32.35 | Nargiddley | it would error |
| 07:32.43 | Nargiddley | attempt to compare number with nil |
| 07:32.44 | Xinhuan | in fact tonumber(anything that isn't a number) wil return nil |
| 07:32.49 | Xinhuan | will* |
| 07:32.53 | Silowyi | hmm margiddley |
| 07:33.03 | Silowyi | thanks |
| 07:33.04 | Nargiddley | what are you trying to do ? |
| 07:33.06 | Fisker- | ramoz usually it works better if you just blank out the password btw |
| 07:33.13 | Fisker- | and change it manually when you've recovered |
| 07:33.15 | Silowyi | if some_var > 0 then |
| 07:33.18 | Silowyi | but some_var might be nil |
| 07:33.23 | Silowyi | so I'll just do |
| 07:33.28 | Nargiddley | if (some_var or 0) > 0 |
| 07:33.29 | Silowyi | if some_var and some_var > 0 then |
| 07:33.47 | Silowyi | mine is more readable |
| 07:33.57 | Silowyi | yours has less memory lookups |
| 07:33.57 | Silowyi | :P |
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| 07:34.16 | Xinhuan | Nargiddley's version ensures that the comparison is always made ;p |
| 07:34.22 | Xinhuan | although 0 > 0 will be false |
| 07:34.29 | Silowyi | hmm |
| 07:34.33 | Silowyi | prefer shortcutting |
| 07:35.08 | Silowyi | the main reason I wouldn't use that is cause its not friendly to those who might trod in my footsteps though |
| 07:35.23 | Grum | add a comment ^^ |
| 07:35.30 | Xinhuan | its a standard LUA construct |
| 07:35.40 | Nargiddley | using the short circuiting of or is pretty standard |
| 07:35.45 | Grum | --[[ this piece of code can be written as\n.....\n--]] |
| 07:35.53 | yssaril | does recount accept swstats data? |
| 07:37.11 | sag_ich_nicht | hey |
| 07:38.17 | Silowyi | really? |
| 07:38.20 | Silowyi | hmm |
| 07:38.28 | Silowyi | if its fairly standard in lua then nvm |
| 07:38.29 | sag_ich_nicht | is anyone on the more religious side here? because i totally need someone to say a prayer for this red bull can here :X |
| 07:38.29 | orionshock | well i have achieved Completely Lazy Status with my daily quests... |
| 07:38.44 | Silowyi | orionshock got automaton to work with it? |
| 07:38.45 | sag_ich_nicht | because it just TOTALLY SAVED MY ASS |
| 07:38.54 | orionshock | no i got my own working |
| 07:38.56 | orionshock | :D |
| 07:39.28 | orionshock | http://shock-wow.googlecode.com/svn/trunk/DialyFu |
| 07:39.36 | orionshock | http://shock-wow.googlecode.com/svn/trunk/SickOfClickingDailys |
| 07:39.49 | orionshock | works like a charm... |
| 07:39.50 | Silowyi | I assume that's DailyFu |
| 07:39.52 | Silowyi | and not DialyFu |
| 07:39.57 | orionshock | ya |
| 07:40.05 | Silowyi | rofl at the name |
| 07:40.06 | orionshock | http://shock-wow.googlecode.com/svn/trunk/DailyFu/ |
| 07:40.11 | Silowyi | which Daily's does it work with? |
| 07:40.25 | orionshock | atm, only the Skettis and Ogri'la ones |
| 07:40.38 | orionshock | i don't have epix flying |
| 07:40.53 | orionshock | but it's as easy as adding the proper NPC name and Quest to the lists |
| 07:41.37 | orionshock | only thing i dread is that attempt at localization :\ |
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| 07:42.14 | orionshock | .. just can't get the icon on daily fu to work :(( |
| 07:42.16 | ennuilg | Morning... |
| 07:43.49 | yssaril | orionshock: you using the fubarplugin 3? |
| 07:44.01 | orionshock | tes :( |
| 07:44.06 | orionshock | yes :( |
| 07:44.20 | orionshock | v2 => v3 was weird |
| 07:44.24 | orionshock | afk |
| 07:45.27 | yssaril | orionshock: remove the .blp |
| 07:45.36 | yssaril | also add it to your config table |
| 07:45.56 | ennuilg | Hmmm. Can't help wondering how the LibRock vs. Scrooge stuff is going to affect stability and load... |
| 07:45.59 | yssaril | icon = [[Interface\\Icons\\Ability_Druid_Dreamstate]], |
| 07:46.30 | vhaarr | ennuilg: the answer is "not at all" |
| 07:46.50 | Xinhuan | unless infinite loops are involved ;p |
| 07:46.56 | yssaril | lol |
| 07:47.07 | ennuilg | vhaarr: Well, I'd hope that to be the case, but I still can't help feeling a little uneasy about addons disabling sections of other addons. |
| 07:47.56 | yssaril | ennuilg: just dont use scrooge then |
| 07:48.37 | ennuilg | Still means the code to check for scrooge is in LibRock - it affects both sides of the game. |
| 07:48.49 | ZealotOnAStick | I think the entire thing on both sides is silly and stupid and both parties have lost face with me. |
| 07:48.58 | vhaarr | I agree with ZealotOnAStick |
| 07:48.59 | vhaarr | however |
| 07:49.04 | vhaarr | it's a non-issue |
| 07:50.13 | ennuilg | Oh, I thought you might be explaining why we should all consider it a non-issue because you told us to... My bad. |
| 07:50.21 | yssaril | orionshock: ping |
| 07:52.31 | ennuilg | AddOn coders are generally people who look for the slightest improvements in code and coding practise to keep memory footprint and CPU load as low as possible. How possibly can chunks of pointless code fighting it out in my game be a "non-issue" ? |
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| 07:53.35 | Shadowed | bah damn wow |
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| 07:54.11 | Shadowed | yssaril, the effect of the Scrooge checks is however long it takes to loop through SlashCmdList and each SLASH_foo#, then check if the slash command matches scrooge |
| 07:54.18 | Shadowed | for every file of LibRock-1.0 there is regardless if it's new or not |
| 07:54.39 | orionshock | "D |
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| 07:55.02 | cryogen | dont tell me you're *still* going on about this? |
| 07:55.12 | yssaril | orionshock: remove the .blp |
| 07:55.16 | Shadowed | I wish someone had just banned you and be done with it |
| 07:55.40 | cryogen | sucks to be you, huh |
| 07:55.45 | Shadowed | apparently |
| 07:55.50 | Shadowed | good thing they make /ignore |
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| 07:56.49 | orionshock | .. was thingking to myself.. yssguildshop uses rock and fubarpluginV3.. look at her code ... |
| 07:57.08 | orionshock | but the icon still dosn't show |
| 07:57.29 | ennuilg | Well, the be fair cryogen, it was me who raised the issue again this morning... I felt I at least needed to air my voice to say the whole thing made me feel uneasy. I'll keep quiet on the subject now. |
| 07:57.29 | Neebler | http://neebler.tetro.net/test.jpg what should I change about it? just made it |
| 07:57.42 | evl | http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Doomhammer&n=Metric |
| 07:57.44 | evl | holy shit :D |
| 07:58.00 | evl | I mean, that guy is done. It's game over, he has every piece of gear you could ever want |
| 07:58.02 | evl | EVER. |
| 07:58.07 | cryogen | well, IRC isnt the best place to have these discussions, given its fragemented nature |
| 07:58.18 | yssaril | orion try these changes http://ace.pastey.net/74866-5txu:74865-3t3k |
| 07:58.21 | cryogen | you just end up repeating the whole thing the next time someone wakes up and gives their 2p |
| 07:58.51 | ennuilg | Of course... But IRC has always and ever been thus. |
| 07:59.02 | ennuilg | It's the nature of the medium. |
| 07:59.18 | orionshock | yssaril: i did , and no avail, me thinks the icon simply is the wrong path |
| 07:59.38 | yssaril | orionshock: possibly just make your own like i did :) |
| 07:59.43 | Nargiddley | take off the [[]] or the escaped \\ |
| 07:59.47 | Nargiddley | you dont want both |
| 07:59.48 | cryogen | ennuilg: quite |
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| 08:00.11 | Nargiddley | [[Path\File]] or "Path\\File" |
| 08:00.17 | yssaril | Nargiddley: with the new fubarplugin that how it works |
| 08:00.33 | yssaril | Nargiddley: nm your right its just single \ |
| 08:00.49 | orionshock | well i got 2 instances of it pointing at the icon..i'll try both :D |
| 08:00.51 | Nargiddley | [[ ]] is for strings with no escape chars |
| 08:00.57 | yssaril | orionshock: do what Nargiddley said and change \\ to \ |
| 08:01.22 | orionshock | well the "Interface\\Icons\\Ability_Druid_Dreamstate" worked |
| 08:01.45 | yssaril | hurray |
| 08:01.46 | orionshock | and [[Interface\Icons\Ability_Druid_Dreamstate]] dodm |
| 08:01.50 | orionshock | *didn't |
| 08:01.59 | yssaril | hmmm wiered |
| 08:02.15 | orionshock | wow icon vs non wow icons :| |
| 08:02.29 | yssaril | guess so |
| 08:02.33 | Nargiddley | orionshock, you diddnt use "[[Path\File]]" did you ? |
| 08:02.46 | Nargiddley | looks like that from the top of the diff yssaril put up |
| 08:03.09 | yssaril | damnit yea take out the "" to lol |
| 08:03.13 | orionshock | nope |
| 08:03.28 | Nargiddley | [[ ]] act like " " but without escape sequences |
| 08:03.29 | orionshock | it was "Interface\\Icons\\Ability_Druid_Dreamstate" & [["nterface\Icons\Ability_Druid_Dreamstate]] |
| 08:03.33 | yssaril | did you add it to your config table? |
| 08:03.40 | orionshock | it was "Interface\\Icons\\Ability_Druid_Dreamstate" & [[Interface\Icons\Ability_Druid_Dreamstate]] |
| 08:03.43 | Nargiddley | k |
| 08:03.47 | orionshock | yes yssaril |
| 08:03.57 | yssaril | is it working there if so which way works? |
| 08:04.16 | orionshock | the first |
| 08:04.34 | orionshock | i think, i might have been looking in the wrong place .... |
| 08:05.37 | yssaril | orionshock: btw why instead of manually coding each daily you simply use the config where the user can input the NPC name and Quest name and it takes care of the rest? |
| 08:06.15 | orionshock | functional Now vs configurable later... |
| 08:06.22 | Fisker- | btw shit is back |
| 08:07.11 | orionshock | ? |
| 08:07.43 | Fisker- | when drunk if you write "sit" it'll write "shit" |
| 08:07.44 | Fisker- | :D |
| 08:07.53 | Fisker- | it was fixed ages ago |
| 08:07.55 | Fisker- | but it's back now |
| 08:08.04 | yssaril | lol |
| 08:08.10 | yssaril | Brwfest horray |
| 08:08.16 | yssaril | *Brewfest |
| 08:08.47 | yssaril | orionshock: why is that? |
| 08:09.05 | orionshock | failure to write a config window that makes sense |
| 08:09.08 | Silowyi | orionshock |
| 08:09.14 | Silowyi | shoot the author of ScenRaid while you're at it |
| 08:09.30 | orionshock | ? scenRaid? |
| 08:09.37 | Silowyi | www.raidui.com |
| 08:09.42 | Fisker- | PT3Bar has the best config window ever |
| 08:09.42 | Silowyi | he went missing in May |
| 08:09.56 | Fisker- | well you got your wish Silowyi |
| 08:09.58 | Silowyi | his code is nicely obfuscated to prevent anyone from updating it or even fixing bugs |
| 08:10.23 | Fisker- | rebuild |
| 08:10.45 | Fisker- | hack his site |
| 08:10.46 | Fisker- | etc. |
| 08:10.51 | Silowyi | nah, I've just been de-obfuscating it whenever I need to fix a bug |
| 08:11.00 | Fisker- | DO IT |
| 08:11.04 | Silowyi | not hard considering he made the entire ui in xml. |
| 08:11.06 | cryogen | orionshock: have you seen the alpha? |
| 08:11.21 | Silowyi | makes it marvelously easy to determine which function does what. |
| 08:11.49 | yssaril | Fisker-: what is PT3Bar? |
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| 08:13.08 | orionshock | cryogen: i don't wana |
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| 08:13.41 | cryogen | well hes completely redone the config |
| 08:13.53 | ennuilg | Hmm... Along with the known bug in UnitName(), there seems to be something else strange - when querying a unit not in your zone, the secondparameter (realm) seems to return a non-nil, but empty result. |
| 08:14.00 | Fisker- | yssaril an addon like autobar |
| 08:14.02 | Fisker- | but cool |
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| 08:14.47 | ZealotOnAStick | is PT3Bar still all configured via hardcode in the lua? |
| 08:15.09 | Fisker- | yes |
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| 08:15.29 | Fisker- | hence best addon config window evar |
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| 08:17.38 | yssaril | Fisker-: kk you convinced me (gonna stay with autobar) |
| 08:18.05 | cryogen | you might want to try the alpha of autobar if you hate the config |
| 08:18.08 | cryogen | its been completely redone |
| 08:18.40 | Fisker- | took me 5 minutes to setup PT3bar |
| 08:18.44 | Fisker- | and i never need to do it again |
| 08:18.45 | Fisker- | :O |
| 08:18.45 | ennuilg | http://ace.pastey.net/74868 as an example - without the second check for the lone "-", names get appended with the hyphen if they're in a different zone to the checker. |
| 08:19.01 | cryogen | ~seen cncfanatics |
| 08:19.02 | purl | cncfanatics <i=5152e61a@gateway/web/cgi-irc/ircatwork.com/x-0d8b515605045181> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 22h 13m 59s ago, saying: 'now, java lesson over, logging out'. |
| 08:19.04 | yssaril | cryogen: naw i actually figured out its config so i am fine wiht it as is :) |
| 08:19.16 | cryogen | i havent tried the new one yet either |
| 08:19.21 | cryogen | its apparently quite good though |
| 08:19.36 | cryogen | it turns into a totem bar and stuff like that if you configure it |
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| 08:19.53 | yssaril | cryogen: seams everyhting got tossed into one thing no more seperate autobarconfig addon |
| 08:19.58 | cryogen | ya |
| 08:20.04 | cryogen | its all waterfall and stuff i think |
| 08:20.30 | Nargiddley | yeah i remember the author adding the item buttons to waterfall |
| 08:21.00 | yssaril | <---- dont thing waterfall makes for decent UI just better than slash comands |
| 08:21.12 | cryogen | it can, if designed properly |
| 08:21.12 | Nargiddley | <-- agrees |
| 08:21.19 | Nargiddley | not really cryogen |
| 08:21.24 | Nargiddley | so i'm doing better :P |
| 08:21.28 | cryogen | just mapping your slash commands to a gui isnt going to make it look nice |
| 08:21.34 | smoke_ | anyone got party/friendly unit range checking working on pitbull? |
| 08:21.52 | orionshock | yes |
| 08:22.12 | smoke_ | orionshock, how you get it working? my party/friend targets arent fading out when they are out of range |
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| 08:22.41 | smoke_ | its enabled on the party frame, the module is turned on, and combat fader isnt enabled |
| 08:22.56 | Fisker- | .... |
| 08:22.59 | Fisker- | beginners mistake |
| 08:23.24 | Fisker- | couldn't get my harddrive to fit because i had used one rail higher up than the other one |
| 08:25.00 | orionshock | lol Fisker- |
| 08:25.05 | orionshock | smoke_: http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e283/OrionShock/WoWScrnShot_100507_012408.jpg |
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| 08:25.45 | CIA-12 | 03shadowed * r51012 10!Scrooge/ (5 files in 2 dirs): !Scrooge: Added README.txt file (Read it!) for forcing Scrooge to load before Rock regardless of the hard drive being formatted using NTFS. Fixed typo in EnableAddOn. |
| 08:25.47 | smoke_ | orionshock, im talking about party frames and/or friendly units |
| 08:26.00 | orionshock | same applys |
| 08:26.03 | smoke_ | orionshock, my hostile targeting/focus are fading out when im out of range |
| 08:26.13 | smoke_ | i know, i have range checking enabled on my party frame |
| 08:26.16 | smoke_ | and its not fading the units out |
| 08:26.30 | orionshock | maybe they are in range and you don't know it :P |
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| 08:26.57 | smoke_ | umm |
| 08:26.59 | smoke_ | they're not trust me |
| 08:27.16 | Fisker- | oh i better have a sata cable or else orionshock |
| 08:29.07 | orionshock | wtf |
| 08:29.27 | orionshock | ping ckknight |
| 08:30.04 | orionshock | parrot just flashed "Simon Says Game Quest Reward complete" |
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| 08:30.11 | orionshock | in notification |
| 08:31.42 | CIA-12 | 03aliset 07aliset_effective_health * r51013 10TankPoints/TankPoints.lua: |
| 08:31.42 | CIA-12 | TankPoints: |
| 08:31.43 | CIA-12 | - Under some circumstances TankPoints was not initializing all schools of damage. |
| 08:32.27 | cryogen | orionshock: did you complete the simon says game? :) |
| 08:32.31 | orionshock | ya |
| 08:32.40 | orionshock | never give an SCT thing before |
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| 08:33.46 | sag_ich_nicht | WTB address to complain to about EU forum CMs/mods |
| 08:34.08 | orionshock | prolly gona be something like wow-CM-EU@blizzard.com |
| 08:34.25 | QuantumDelta | Hmm.... |
| 08:34.38 | QuantumDelta | REAL Global Cooldown time; 1.5, or 1.43 seconds? |
| 08:36.19 | sag_ich_nicht | orionshock yeah but which one :X |
| 08:36.53 | CIA-12 | 03shadowed * r51014 10!Scrooge/ (!Scrooge.toc Scrooge.lua): !Scrooge: Added TOC info back, we hook the addon info stuff anyway so it won't matter except for useful info on the addon management screen. Changed metadata hook to nil for Scrooge. |
| 08:37.45 | orionshock | ... ive got to wonder what exactly crawled up Shadowed 's ass that it's become a crusade now.... |
| 08:38.04 | sag_ich_nicht | find me the CM feedback adress for europe |
| 08:38.05 | sag_ich_nicht | quick |
| 08:38.08 | sag_ich_nicht | before my ban expires |
| 08:38.14 | orionshock | ? |
| 08:38.27 | sag_ich_nicht | got temp banned from the forums |
| 08:38.33 | sag_ich_nicht | for posting something POSITIVE about paladins |
| 08:38.38 | sag_ich_nicht | guess the mod didn't read the whole thread |
| 08:38.39 | orionshock | and you prolly deserve it |
| 08:38.41 | sag_ich_nicht | nope |
| 08:38.44 | sag_ich_nicht | hold for link |
| 08:38.50 | Srosh | wowcmfeedback-eu@blizzard.com |
| 08:39.11 | sag_ich_nicht | Srosh you sure? can't find that when putting it into google :X |
| 08:39.25 | sag_ich_nicht | http://forums.wow-europe.com/thread.html?topicId=1119052432&postId=11188818233&sid=1#0 there |
| 08:40.05 | Srosh | Pretty sure but not 100%. |
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| 08:41.27 | orionshock | sag_ich_nicht: what one was your post? |
| 08:43.35 | sag_ich_nicht | the first, duh :P |
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| 08:44.28 | orionshock | in that case then you deserve your ban :P |
| 08:44.37 | CIA-12 | 03aliset 07aliset_effective_health * r51015 10TankPoints/ (6 files): |
| 08:44.37 | CIA-12 | TankPoints: |
| 08:44.37 | CIA-12 | - Locales have proper keywords now |
| 08:44.37 | CIA-12 | - emacs should no longer screw with these files |
| 08:45.19 | sag_ich_nicht | found it |
| 08:45.19 | sag_ich_nicht | https://www.wow-europe.com/community/webform/index.html?locale=en_GB |
| 08:45.31 | sag_ich_nicht | orionshock guess you didn't read the whole post as well and just the first line :P |
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| 08:51.19 | CIA-12 | 03aliset 07aliset_effective_health * r51016 10TankPoints/TankPoints-Locale-enUS.lua: |
| 08:51.19 | CIA-12 | TankPoints: |
| 08:51.19 | CIA-12 | - Cosmetics |
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| 08:57.55 | CIA-12 | 03arkayenro * r51017 10ArkInventory/ (5 files in 2 dirs): |
| 08:57.55 | CIA-12 | ArkInventory: |
| 08:57.55 | CIA-12 | - 2.10c |
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| 09:07.42 | CIA-12 | 03ackis * r51018 10AckisRecipeList/AckisRecipeList.lua: |
| 09:07.43 | CIA-12 | AckisRecipeList: |
| 09:07.43 | CIA-12 | - Added scroll bar to GUI. It actually shows up now. |
| 09:09.26 | orionshock | hehe while at work i was wondering.... i can prolly throw together a small addon that iterated fubar's plugins and make a dewdrop menu for moving plugin's around ... |
| 09:10.24 | orionshock | then i relize that i wouldn't even use it... |
| 09:10.26 | buu | orionshock: Do you happen to know if there's a module that eats minimap buttons? |
| 09:10.42 | orionshock | buu ? |
| 09:10.49 | buu | orionshock ? |
| 09:11.02 | orionshock | eats mini map buttons? |
| 09:11.03 | orionshock | no |
| 09:11.06 | buu | Shucks. |
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| 09:14.30 | Neebler | num num num |
| 09:15.44 | QuantumDelta | hmm |
| 09:15.51 | QuantumDelta | wowace is about to hit 1000 directories |
| 09:16.13 | QuantumDelta | (addons/libs wise) |
| 09:16.42 | otravi | in b4 someone deletes trunk. |
| 09:17.27 | QuantumDelta | lol |
| 09:18.34 | sag_ich_nicht | sudo rm -rf / |
| 09:18.35 | sag_ich_nicht | imho |
| 09:18.50 | sag_ich_nicht | no wait |
| 09:18.50 | sag_ich_nicht | better |
| 09:19.03 | _SunTsu | .o0( What does readmail -realfast have to do with that? ) |
| 09:19.06 | sag_ich_nicht | sudo dd if=/dev/urandom of=/dev/hda |
| 09:19.20 | _SunTsu | nick SunTsu |
| 09:19.24 | sag_ich_nicht | fail |
| 09:19.27 | sag_ich_nicht | ~fail _SunTsu |
| 09:19.28 | purl | _SunTsu: Fail. |
| 09:19.28 | _SunTsu | OK, one more slash |
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| 09:29.15 | CIA-12 | 03aliset 07aliset_effective_health * r51019 10TankPoints/TankPoints-Locale-koKR.lua: |
| 09:29.15 | CIA-12 | TankPoints: |
| 09:29.15 | CIA-12 | - Evil character snuck in |
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| 09:29.50 | CIA-12 | 03aliset 07aliset_effective_health * r51020 10TankPoints/ (3 files): |
| 09:29.50 | CIA-12 | TankPoints: |
| 09:29.50 | CIA-12 | - /tp tip drdiff and drtotal - show difference in melee reduction in tooltips |
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| 09:42.13 | baer_ | moin. |
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| 09:48.38 | QuantumDelta | morning |
| 09:50.49 | baer_ | is there any known issue, why i can't remove MTs in oRA2 while being leader/promoted in a raid group? |
| 09:52.50 | baer_ | and is there any handy addon for capturing done dmg & done healing during a boss fight? |
| 09:53.06 | sag_ich_nicht | yeah. SW Stats. |
| 09:53.07 | sag_ich_nicht | :X |
| 09:53.10 | sag_ich_nicht | or violation |
| 09:53.11 | sag_ich_nicht | or recap |
| 09:53.12 | sag_ich_nicht | or recount |
| 09:53.15 | sag_ich_nicht | or damagemeters |
| 09:53.20 | sag_ich_nicht | what ever floats your boat |
| 09:53.26 | sag_ich_nicht | ;X |
| 09:54.03 | baer_ | sag_ich_nicht: (nice nick btw ^^) i'm currently using swstats, which have not been updated in ages. |
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| 09:54.31 | baer_ | for some reason i'm pretty unsure how good it is. |
| 09:54.50 | ramoz | therefore |
| 09:54.54 | ramoz | you use Violation |
| 09:54.59 | baer_ | i would like to have more correct values, otherwise i don't need such a tool. :-} |
| 09:55.09 | ramoz | lightweight, and pretty accurate |
| 09:55.26 | ramoz | if you want a analysis tool, use recount - but 100mb memusage after a raid is not unusual :) |
| 09:55.32 | baer_ | ramoz: thanks, i'll give it a try "lightweight&accurate" sounds pretty good. |
| 09:55.55 | baer_ | ok, that would be a bit to much to my ol' box. |
| 09:57.02 | sag_ich_nicht | [11:54] <baer_> for some reason i'm pretty unsure how good it is. <--works fine. |
| 09:57.15 | sag_ich_nicht | wait |
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| 09:57.21 | baer_ | sag_ich_nicht: talking about swstats or violation? |
| 09:57.24 | sag_ich_nicht | both |
| 09:57.24 | sag_ich_nicht | :D |
| 09:57.33 | sag_ich_nicht | recount now goes up to 100 MB usage? wtf |
| 09:57.39 | sag_ich_nicht | graphlib? |
| 09:57.47 | kandarz | does table.sort take a lot of cpu/memory? |
| 09:57.47 | sag_ich_nicht | or really that much statistics? :X |
| 09:57.47 | ramoz | if you dont clear it |
| 09:58.06 | baer_ | sag_ich_nicht: i'm pretty sure the version of swstats i'm using is pretty inaccurate. |
| 09:58.07 | ramoz | well |
| 09:58.20 | ramoz | 100mb was a bit over the top - but atleast 50mb from recount alone |
| 09:58.21 | sag_ich_nicht | baer_: well i'm pretty sure you should update it then :P |
| 09:58.37 | baer_ | sag_ich_nicht: well, there's no newer version. :-} |
| 09:58.37 | sag_ich_nicht | ramoz: is that coming from all the stored data or from graphlib being a bitch |
| 09:58.59 | ramoz | stored data |
| 09:59.04 | ramoz | i never used graphlib |
| 09:59.49 | ramoz | oh |
| 09:59.56 | weab | 50mb is ridiculous. |
| 10:00.01 | Xinhuan | how accurate would you say swstats data is compared to recount? |
| 10:00.22 | Xinhuan | because i can have 2 whole days of raid data in swstats and it wouldn't even use up 6 mb of ram |
| 10:00.40 | ramoz | weab: zomg - wanna add the portalthing in BT to automaton? |
| 10:00.49 | weab | come again? |
| 10:01.09 | ramoz | the first deathseer |
| 10:01.14 | ramoz | in black temple |
| 10:01.33 | weab | i haven't done any raiding in tbc |
| 10:01.33 | ramoz | after you kill akama he can teleport you to the questdudes inside |
| 10:01.44 | ramoz | fail! |
| 10:02.24 | weab | what's the text say |
| 10:02.39 | ramoz | ehm |
| 10:02.47 | baer_ | ramoz: where can i find violation? |
| 10:02.54 | weab | plx port me to teh sekrit chamberz d00d |
| 10:02.57 | weab | or something like that? |
| 10:03.04 | ramoz | yes! thats it |
| 10:03.16 | ramoz | if you want, i got go and check when i get home from work |
| 10:03.47 | ramoz | Spirit of Olum |
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| 10:03.49 | ramoz | that's his name atleast |
| 10:04.05 | weab | it might be on wowwiki or something. |
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| 10:06.02 | ramoz | nah |
| 10:06.15 | ramoz | only reference is the "real" olum inside ssc |
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| 10:06.55 | weab | well i'd need the exact text to add it |
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| 10:08.10 | ramoz | ill go get it after work if you fix the autoqueue bug :P |
| 10:09.40 | kandarz | how do I make tortoisesvn update without externals, I know how to check out without externals, but when I update it downloads them anyway |
| 10:10.24 | Nargiddley | you always update using update to revision, and check ignore externals every time |
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| 10:11.29 | weab | command line is easier |
| 10:11.54 | weab | cd games/wow/inerface/addons |
| 10:12.00 | weab | svn update * --ignore-externals |
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| 10:13.33 | kandarz | I don't have to update that often, so doing update to revision is fine |
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| 10:23.22 | weab | <ramoz> ill go get it after work if you fix the autoqueue bug :P |
| 10:23.35 | weab | how is that any kind of incentive when you're the one that wanted me to add it |
| 10:24.34 | Tekkub | The DBT-120 is a Bluetooth USB adapter for Windows Computers (PCs and Macs) |
| 10:24.35 | Tekkub | ... |
| 10:24.54 | weab | a mac can run windows! |
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| 10:41.49 | ramoz | weab: very true |
| 10:42.36 | weab | i have been meaning to make some time to do a few updates though. |
| 10:43.24 | ramoz | well, a shame if you would stop to update automaton |
| 10:43.34 | ramoz | prolly one of the addons i use the most |
| 10:46.23 | weab | i think the main reason i don't do official updates much anymore is it's annoying syncing between my private svn and the wowace svn |
| 10:47.47 | weab | can always find the version i'm running here. http://files.zerus.org/wow/mods/ |
| 10:48.09 | weab | though it might have partially implemented features or debugging code from time to time |
| 10:50.01 | ramoz | oh sweet |
| 10:50.16 | ramoz | butteh |
| 10:50.23 | ramoz | is the queuebug fixed there? |
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| 10:51.19 | weab | no |
| 10:51.37 | ramoz | *bookmarks page* |
| 10:52.24 | weab | i should get my svn set up to allow anonymous checkouts |
| 10:53.06 | Xinhuan | IsInCombatLockdown() is this a reliable function to return whether i am in combat or not? |
| 10:53.17 | Fisker- | ram: 1515/4093.7MB (37%) [||||------] how do i get the last 0.3? :( |
| 10:53.23 | orionshock | Xinhuan: ... sorta ya |
| 10:53.49 | weab | used to check for player health regen for combat |
| 10:54.43 | Xinhuan | you would still use the player_regen events if you needed to do things on enter/exiting combat |
| 10:56.36 | orionshock | could always setup your own combat check, register for both events, and make a toggle |
| 10:58.30 | weab | UnitAffectingCombat("unit") sounds like a better option |
| 10:59.27 | orionshock | i don't know why biz dosn't have their own IsInCombat() func |
| 11:00.10 | weab | guess it depends on what you're going for really. |
| 11:01.07 | Xinhuan | oh just need a simply function to check if i'm in combat every frame |
| 11:01.11 | Xinhuan | simple* |
| 11:01.15 | CIA-12 | 03helium * r51021 10Babble-2.2/ (3 files in 3 dirs): |
| 11:01.15 | CIA-12 | Babble-2.2: |
| 11:01.15 | CIA-12 | - Faction: updated zhTW localization |
| 11:01.15 | CIA-12 | - Mount: updated zhTW localization |
| 11:01.15 | CIA-12 | - Spell: updated zhTW localization |
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| 11:01.16 | CIA-12 | (translation changed in 2.2, wtf) |
| 11:01.55 | orionshock | i wonder how many bots we have in this room |
| 11:02.01 | orionshock | like who is aba- ? |
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| 11:02.59 | Hjalte | orionshock: How do I know that YOU'RE not a bot? Huh?! |
| 11:03.09 | orionshock | oh but i am :P |
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| 11:14.14 | Grum | Xinhuan: maybe you can check if you can access some protected frame |
| 11:14.21 | Grum | that should not be possible during combat |
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| 11:22.27 | CIA-12 | 03ammo * r51022 10BigWigs/ (Hyjal/BigWigs_Hyjal.toc modules.xml): BigWigs: add Hyjal Summit module to the .toc, it needs wavetimers for Rage Winterchill and Kaz'Rogal, current times are tuned for Anatheron and Az'Galor |
| 11:22.53 | Speeddymon | [Ammo]: you got admin perms on files. ? |
| 11:23.07 | [Ammo] | what perms? |
| 11:23.31 | Speeddymon | can you shell into the download site to fix an error in errors.txt? |
| 11:23.33 | ramoz | [Ammo]: isnt rage and kaz'rogal just the same as Anatheron? |
| 11:23.38 | [Ammo] | nope |
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| 11:23.47 | Speeddymon | nope to me or ramoz? |
| 11:23.53 | [Ammo] | to both |
| 11:23.59 | Speeddymon | ok |
| 11:24.05 | [Ammo] | but it depends what the error is |
| 11:24.09 | [Ammo] | if it's an external on svn I can fix it |
| 11:24.21 | ramoz | if its 3m at anatheron its 2m at the alliance base (rage and kazrogal) |
| 11:24.38 | [Ammo] | ramoz: the timers can be 5-30 seconds off |
| 11:24.43 | [Ammo] | for RWC compared to Anatheron |
| 11:24.46 | ramoz | oh, ok |
| 11:24.50 | Speeddymon | no its a build failure causing cooldowntimers to not show up on the site.. last revision on there is in the 57k range, and in svn its at 59k |
| 11:24.50 | [Ammo] | so need timings |
| 11:25.06 | [Ammo] | give url to errors.txt |
| 11:25.10 | ramoz | so you need the transcript? |
| 11:25.41 | [Ammo] | what wuold help is a fraps with a clock with seconds on it running |
| 11:25.45 | Speeddymon | http://files.wowace.com/ERRORS.txt .... line 4 |
| 11:26.11 | [Ammo] | weird |
| 11:26.34 | [Ammo] | I don't think I can fix that |
| 11:27.05 | Speeddymon | heh basically (i think) the directory on the line just needs to be deleted, so it can be created by the script.. |
| 11:27.30 | Speeddymon | what happened was that i removed cdt from svn, let the site refresh, and then added it back, and that error came up on the next refresh |
| 11:28.03 | Grum | why did you remove it? |
| 11:28.10 | Speeddymon | broken builds.. |
| 11:28.28 | Grum | why not put in an old version? or fix it? |
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| 11:28.42 | Speeddymon | it was putting the locale files in the root of the addon directory, when they should have been in locale/ even tho in svn, they were in the proper place |
| 11:28.55 | Speeddymon | it was fixed in svn, but the site was still borking it |
| 11:29.06 | Grum | i think the checkout script needs to be fixed |
| 11:29.13 | Grum | it seems that it doesnt actually work 'properly' |
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| 11:30.24 | Speeddymon | yea pastamancer said that, but that it was complicated to fix, so i figured if i removed it and then readded it after it refreshed, it would only have the info from the current revision, and so it would build it properly |
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| 11:36.19 | [Ammo] | ~seen ag` |
| 11:36.20 | purl | ag` <i=Andreas@0x535cbb03.bynxx18.adsl-dhcp.tele.dk> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 3d 12h 51m 15s ago, saying: 'I wouldn't mind being disc in raids almost'. |
| 11:36.27 | [Ammo] | hmm |
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| 11:38.37 | cryogen | weab: you should look at svk |
| 11:39.02 | weab | that's what i've heard |
| 11:39.11 | cryogen | makes what you want to do a breeze |
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| 11:45.09 | CIA-12 | SpellReminder: |
| 11:45.09 | CIA-12 | - changed the time format to math.ceil instead of math.floor |
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| 11:47.56 | CIA-12 | 03nargiddley 07Alpha * r51026 10Ace3/AceGUI-3.0/AceGUI-3.0.lua: |
| 11:47.56 | CIA-12 | Ace3 - AceGUI: |
| 11:47.56 | CIA-12 | <PROTECTED> |
| 11:47.56 | CIA-12 | <PROTECTED> |
| 11:50.26 | orionshock | anyone see the big picture here on wowace? anyone... |
| 11:50.41 | orionshock | do you see the Insanity? |
| 11:50.55 | cladhaire | huh? |
| 11:51.10 | cladhaire | what do you mean |
| 11:51.11 | orionshock | lol of all people to respond cladhaire .... |
| 11:51.21 | cladhaire | well I'm not sure what you're asking |
| 11:51.23 | Nargiddley | what are you on about ? |
| 11:52.07 | orionshock | not to drag the forum drama in here.. but my response is what im talking about : http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=8956.msg146727#msg146727 |
| 11:52.20 | mikma | bring on the drama |
| 11:52.28 | dylanm | Bring on the funk |
| 11:52.32 | orionshock | <PROTECTED> |
| 11:52.40 | cryogen | if its on the forums, keep it on the forums |
| 11:52.45 | orionshock | <PROTECTED> |
| 11:52.49 | mikma | dylanm: play that funky drama whiteboy |
| 11:53.14 | cladhaire | orionshock: Then no, I don't understand what you're seeing. Why is it a bad thing that people want a non-rock version of Cart and FuBar? |
| 11:53.25 | orionshock | it's what's been talk'ed and talk'ed and talk'ed about for months now .... yet has not happened |
| 11:53.34 | orionshock | <PROTECTED> |
| 11:53.40 | cladhaire | ? |
| 11:53.41 | orionshock | has nothing to do with rock |
| 11:53.50 | [Ammo] | I don't think you understand it orionshock |
| 11:53.54 | cladhaire | then what does it have to do with? |
| 11:53.55 | [Ammo] | example, necronomicon |
| 11:53.56 | orionshock | "in the first place when he didn't use common release practice and upped the major version numbers" |
| 11:54.14 | cladhaire | no, don't talk about what someone said |
| 11:54.14 | [Ammo] | Necronomicon was Ace1, Necronomicon2 = Ace2, Necronomicon3 will be Ace3 probably depending on wether I want to continue it |
| 11:54.15 | orionshock | the SVN => Files Distro method is completely fubar'ed |
| 11:54.15 | cladhaire | give me your opinion |
| 11:54.18 | Samir_ | Does somebody know here if CheckInbox runs when I open my mail box? |
| 11:54.33 | cladhaire | orionshock: yes.. but even if it were fixed, ckknight said flat out he wouldn't use tags or other systems |
| 11:54.41 | cladhaire | so how is that relevant to the fubarace? |
| 11:54.46 | ckknight | wtf, I used tags! |
| 11:54.51 | cladhaire | lol |
| 11:54.53 | orionshock | your linking the 2 - stop |
| 11:54.55 | cladhaire | i'm just going off what you said |
| 11:55.02 | cladhaire | i know you did in this case :P |
| 11:55.29 | cladhaire | I mean, if you have strong feelings about the distro mechanism (trust me I do) |
| 11:55.30 | orionshock | the problem is the SVN = > Files Method that ends up on WAU and we get shit stormed on the forums due to slight of hand fuck ups |
| 11:55.31 | cladhaire | then that's cool |
| 11:55.36 | cladhaire | _however- |
| 11:55.50 | cladhaire | that doesn't invalidate the people who wanted an ace fubar |
| 11:56.11 | orionshock | a viable method has been prduced, tek and others have sorted out the details. |
| 11:56.15 | cladhaire | it just seems tangential to the forum post you made |
| 11:56.24 | Nargiddley | i dont see the connection either |
| 11:56.43 | orionshock | tags = > files ~> WAU == Stable release method |
| 11:56.49 | cladhaire | yes |
| 11:56.50 | cladhaire | we know this |
| 11:56.57 | cladhaire | it has _NOTHING_ to do with the post you just linked. |
| 11:57.01 | cladhaire | and you're preachign to the choir |
| 11:57.10 | cladhaire | about 1/4 of the reasons I left the ace svn |
| 11:57.34 | orionshock | what i linked was a cross section of the problem that stem further out, and if we know this cladhaire what is stopping it from being done? |
| 11:57.43 | cladhaire | no, its unrelated |
| 11:57.45 | cladhaire | 100% unrelated |
| 11:57.48 | cladhaire | ckknight made fubar rock |
| 11:57.50 | cladhaire | peopel wanted an ace fubar |
| 11:57.52 | cladhaire | now they have one |
| 11:58.07 | weab | i liked the what's on the forums should stay on the forums statement. |
| 11:58.10 | MoonWolf | bloody stupid situation |
| 11:58.29 | cladhaire | weab: agreed |
| 11:58.36 | cladhaire | the forum topic has no relevance here whatsoever |
| 11:58.48 | cryogen | then start a new o ne |
| 11:58.50 | cladhaire | if you want to have a constructive conversation about the ace distribution methods, then rock on! |
| 11:58.55 | cryogen | i think weve had quite enough flaming in here :p |
| 11:59.01 | cladhaire | i'm sure we all have good ideas on that one |
| 11:59.02 | ckknight | who are these "peopl"? and why do they go against the previous notion that frameworks were no longer important? |
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| 11:59.07 | ckknight | peopl* |
| 11:59.10 | ckknight | people* |
| 11:59.13 | [Ammo] | ckknight: I am one of those people |
| 11:59.14 | ckknight | dammit |
| 11:59.16 | cladhaire | ckknight: You can't have both sides of an argument, sorry |
| 11:59.25 | [Ammo] | and suddenly I had a big bad rock config in my face |
| 11:59.31 | ckknight | cladhaire: wait, which argument? |
| 11:59.35 | [Ammo] | while I chose to use fubar due to the way it worked |
| 11:59.39 | [Ammo] | that functionality got changed |
| 11:59.41 | [Ammo] | -> fubar ace |
| 11:59.58 | ckknight | [Ammo]: so your problem is more specifically about the config than the framework, then |
| 12:00.13 | [Ammo] | the config is in your case an integral non-removable part of the framework |
| 12:00.17 | [Ammo] | and forced upon us |
| 12:00.23 | [Ammo] | hence the framework in this case matters |
| 12:00.36 | [Ammo] | I understand why you did it |
| 12:00.54 | weab | i don't |
| 12:01.08 | [Ammo] | mainly because some dropdowns jsut because out of control |
| 12:01.10 | cladhaire | heh |
| 12:01.12 | MoonWolf | understanding why makes no difference though |
| 12:01.14 | [Ammo] | most of those were in his own addons though |
| 12:01.30 | [Ammo] | argh double because |
| 12:01.36 | [Ammo] | got out of control it should have said |
| 12:01.41 | cladhaire | *shrug* none of that really matters tho |
| 12:01.51 | [Ammo] | it doesn't, but it's what happened |
| 12:01.52 | orionshock | [Ammo] for some reason i don't think you have that correct - it was simply a method of choice, no more than you are "forced" to use AceOptionsTable and Dewdrop or the consul |
| 12:01.54 | cladhaire | its if i changed the UI for praid drastically |
| 12:02.01 | cladhaire | I would have users that would continue using the old version |
| 12:02.06 | cladhaire | and backporting bugfixes and features |
| 12:02.07 | cladhaire | simple as that |
| 12:02.11 | [Ammo] | correct |
| 12:02.15 | MoonWolf | this entire thing feels like x.org vs xfree86 |
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| 12:02.27 | cladhaire | MoonWolf: xfree SUX |
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| 12:02.31 | [Ammo] | tsk clad |
| 12:02.40 | MoonWolf | cladhaire, you get my point. |
| 12:02.50 | cladhaire | of course, i consider it well understood. |
| 12:03.38 | cladhaire | ckknight: Do you have any contact information for Mery? |
| 12:03.43 | orionshock | so your argument of " the config being a non-removable part of the framework " is invalid. if your going to state an opinion do so. don't link it to a psudo-fact. |
| 12:03.59 | ckknight | who is mery? |
| 12:04.06 | [Ammo] | orionshock: I alaso said in this case |
| 12:04.10 | cladhaire | ckknight: the MapNotes2 person who gave you the arrow for Cart |
| 12:04.24 | ckknight | it's been so long |
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| 12:04.28 | [Ammo] | I can not use the Rock FuBar or Carto without RockConfig |
| 12:04.29 | ckknight | and my head is throbbing |
| 12:04.39 | [Ammo] | that's what I said Orion |
| 12:04.40 | cladhaire | np was just curious |
| 12:04.43 | [Ammo] | or at least meant |
| 12:05.12 | [Ammo] | give me the original functionality on a new framework and I will probably use it |
| 12:05.28 | [Ammo] | the functionality change caused the fork |
| 12:05.36 | cladhaire | I was lucky at 2.0 |
| 12:05.43 | cladhaire | praid no longer worked because of the templates, so no one forked :P |
| 12:05.59 | orionshock | tbh it's prolly that you can't move plugins with a right click that's irking you off the most. |
| 12:06.36 | [Ammo] | what's irking me is the config screen in my face |
| 12:06.43 | [Ammo] | I never used waterfall/niagara |
| 12:06.44 | MoonWolf | hmmm |
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| 12:06.45 | orionshock | tbh fubarplugin's w/o dewdrop for the majority of them would not be, as their configurations don't fit too well into RockConfig or anything |
| 12:06.46 | [Ammo] | it irritates the fuck out of me |
| 12:06.48 | cladhaire | peopel do not like drastic change without being notified |
| 12:06.49 | cladhaire | full stop |
| 12:06.55 | [Ammo] | correct |
| 12:06.58 | cladhaire | and this is what they react to |
| 12:06.59 | MoonWolf | maybe we can turn this into a compiz vs beryl situation some time in the future. |
| 12:07.10 | cladhaire | beryl is lame |
| 12:07.26 | MoonWolf | they fused into compiz fusion anyway |
| 12:07.31 | cladhaire | LIES |
| 12:07.33 | MoonWolf | so there is no more beryl |
| 12:07.33 | weab | i don't think that's necessarily true. people don't mind drastic change when it's drastic improvement. |
| 12:07.42 | cladhaire | i remain loyal to my compiz brethren |
| 12:07.58 | cladhaire | weab: my statement was implicitly qualified with "some" in both cases |
| 12:08.25 | weab | if there are no improvements, people don't like change because its pointless and makes you relearn what you've already become used to for no reason |
| 12:08.45 | [Ammo] | I'm a conservative person when it comes to my UI |
| 12:08.46 | orionshock | im willing to bet, that the majority of the complaints agenst the config system are by people that are a tad bit OCD and must constantly touch settings on the fly |
| 12:08.48 | cladhaire | and in this case, quite a few people considered it a step backwards |
| 12:08.55 | cladhaire | orionshock: irrelevant, honestly |
| 12:09.05 | cladhaire | this happens |
| 12:09.06 | cladhaire | all the time |
| 12:09.12 | orionshock | *irrelavent true, but would be interesting to know... |
| 12:09.16 | cladhaire | yeah i agree |
| 12:09.17 | cladhaire | :P |
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| 12:09.24 | [Ammo] | orionshock: click an option in fubar midraid, get a config screen, wipe |
| 12:09.34 | [Ammo] | orionshock: while that same functionlity worked fine before |
| 12:09.42 | MoonWolf | don' t be right clicking your fubar in raid |
| 12:09.45 | Nargiddley | orionshock, you just don't seem to get that people can dislike different things to you |
| 12:09.45 | orionshock | not that it would be a valid point to dismiss their opinion but would still be interesting. |
| 12:09.47 | MoonWolf | who the hell changes a fubar mid raid ? |
| 12:09.55 | Lukian | why would you be touching fubar in raid/ |
| 12:10.01 | orionshock | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:10.03 | [Ammo] | because it's close to your action buttons |
| 12:10.04 | weab | why shouldn't you? |
| 12:10.04 | Lukian | there's combat locks on various frames now anyway.. |
| 12:10.08 | Lukian | ^^ |
| 12:10.24 | weab | if it's easy to do and there's an important change you need to make |
| 12:10.27 | [Ammo] | because it has handy features on them that you want to click |
| 12:10.34 | weab | i don't see why it's an invalid thing to want to do. |
| 12:10.50 | orionshock | Nargiddley: oh i do, i just don't give a dam that much about that actual opinion but more as to why they have it. |
| 12:11.02 | [Ammo] | it changed suddenly, and now an innocent misclick can result in a 2 second screenfreeze and then a rock config in your face |
| 12:11.23 | cladhaire | this is turning into "Why I don't like Rock" |
| 12:11.23 | Nargiddley | how hard is I cant do something i could do before to understand ? |
| 12:11.24 | cladhaire | which doesn't matter |
| 12:11.29 | [Ammo] | oh yeah |
| 12:11.29 | [Ammo] | anyway |
| 12:11.31 | cladhaire | people don't like it.. so they have an option now. |
| 12:11.38 | cladhaire | that's really all anyone needs to know. |
| 12:11.52 | orionshock | [Ammo] you bring up a good point that i was actualy contemplating today, why not have the config screen do a combat check before opening |
| 12:12.04 | MoonWolf | make a ticket |
| 12:12.15 | Lukian | [Ammo], request a combat lock to rockconfig :p |
| 12:12.21 | Grum | or stop being a moron and stop clicking the wrong spots |
| 12:12.24 | cladhaire | the point is. |
| 12:12.28 | cladhaire | it changed, without any notification |
| 12:12.31 | cladhaire | an enormous change |
| 12:12.33 | MoonWolf | grum, off with the cursing. |
| 12:12.35 | [Ammo] | Grum: no need to call me a moron |
| 12:12.40 | cladhaire | people are entitled to not like that, and to fork if they want to |
| 12:12.40 | orionshock | instead give a simplified menu... and tbh - FUBAR itself there is not alot of things that are particular to it that you want to change, even in combat. |
| 12:12.44 | cladhaire | the license explicitly states this |
| 12:12.45 | Grum | 'in general' .. tssk :) |
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| 12:13.45 | orionshock | cladhaire: not sure about the rest of the voices here but , i could care less about the forking and the GPL , and more about the dealing with the forum clutter and the constant stupid questions from all angles. |
| 12:14.02 | cladhaire | well, the forums (and this irc channel) are full of bleeding idiots, full stop :P |
| 12:14.03 | [Ammo] | orionshock: you are one of the persons doing the forum cluttetr |
| 12:14.11 | cladhaire | if you find a way to combat that, you'll win the nobel peace prize :P |
| 12:14.11 | orionshock | :\ true |
| 12:14.45 | weab | i don't think i'd call this channel full of idiots |
| 12:14.49 | Grum | stop bloody forking all of the addons that open a rock config |
| 12:14.58 | Grum | that is seriously *BEYOND* retarded |
| 12:15.04 | cladhaire | no one has |
| 12:15.05 | orionshock | sorry about the clutter, too busy steping on glass trying to say something meaning fu with out being banned :P |
| 12:15.07 | cladhaire | in the least |
| 12:15.16 | Grum | cladhaire: cartoace, fubar2? |
| 12:15.16 | orionshock | *meaningful |
| 12:15.20 | cladhaire | yes, that's two addons |
| 12:15.30 | cladhaire | pitbull hasn't been forked cause no one gives a crap |
| 12:15.41 | cladhaire | i'd bet money that prat doesn't get forked. |
| 12:15.48 | MoonWolf | you look at a pitbull interface like twice a week. |
| 12:15.53 | MoonWolf | same for chat |
| 12:15.57 | cladhaire | yep |
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| 12:16.13 | Speeddymon | i agree with the clicking fubar midraid.. i've done it trying to change targets.. sure its because of the way my frames are setup, but i'm stubborn and not going to change where i put MY raid frames just to suit the fact that an addon wants to have a right click gui.. i'm not complaining about the gui anymore because it has improved DRASTICALLY since it was moved to trunk, HOWEVER |
| 12:16.20 | orionshock | and myself - i won't use a mod that i have to constantly tewak or look at interfaces for.. |
| 12:16.22 | Grum | why not make an addon that you can install alongside with it that uses dewdrop wherever rock access the configuration |
| 12:16.26 | Grum | instead of forking it |
| 12:16.27 | baer_ | damn! |
| 12:16.34 | cladhaire | Grum: because ckknight will disable it |
| 12:16.35 | baer_ | mensa food was bad again. |
| 12:16.36 | cladhaire | imho |
| 12:16.38 | cladhaire | *shrug* |
| 12:16.46 | Grum | cladhaire: he did offer to have a 'Ace2 branch' |
| 12:16.53 | Grum | but that was denied and it forked |
| 12:16.57 | ckknight | actually, I wouldn't |
| 12:16.57 | Grum | and that is stupid |
| 12:17.01 | cladhaire | why does it need to be a branch? |
| 12:17.01 | Speeddymon | with all of that being said, it would be nice if rock checked against incombatlockdown before opening the config |
| 12:17.10 | cladhaire | ckknight: forgive me, but your actions over the past few days have lead me to believe otherwise |
| 12:17.19 | cladhaire | just my opinion, as previously qualified. |
| 12:17.22 | ckknight | the only reason it hasn't happened is because Dewdrop doesn't support LibRockConfig-1.0 tables |
| 12:17.22 | Grum | that was only for a stupid addon called scrooge |
| 12:17.24 | orionshock | Grum: because the rock config method is completely incompatible with dewdrop in every way |
| 12:17.40 | cladhaire | *shrug* |
| 12:17.41 | Grum | so what will happen now |
| 12:17.42 | Lukian | <Speeddymon> with all of that being said, it would be nice if rock checked against incombatlockdown before opening the config <- that would be perfect |
| 12:17.46 | cladhaire | there's nothing wrong with what happened, plain and simple. |
| 12:17.51 | orionshock | this isn't a difference between registering a options table with dewdrop or aceConsoul |
| 12:17.54 | Grum | modules for the addons will rely on the new features and thus the users will be confused on what to use |
| 12:17.58 | Speeddymon | but this isnt a perfect world lukian.. |
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| 12:18.06 | Grum | forking it doesnt solve anything |
| 12:18.14 | Grum | trying to see if you can get some improvements in the current newer version does |
| 12:18.23 | Speeddymon | grum: /agree |
| 12:18.35 | Grum | Cartographer_Routes will not work with cartoace |
| 12:18.42 | Grum | and *I* will get questions about that |
| 12:18.47 | Lukian | :D |
| 12:18.51 | Nargiddley | it lets people use the existing version with the existing features, thats something imo |
| 12:18.56 | Grum | and if anyone even thinks of forking it i'll come over and rip your head off |
| 12:19.03 | Grum | (or just delete it from SVN) |
| 12:19.11 | MoonWolf | wow |
| 12:19.23 | MoonWolf | bitter much |
| 12:19.30 | [Ammo] | hehe moonwolf |
| 12:19.40 | Grum | moron actions get equally moron reactions |
| 12:19.48 | MoonWolf | exactly HOW would you be hurt if someone forked it ? |
| 12:19.55 | Grum | because *I* will get questions |
| 12:19.59 | [Ammo] | moron in the eye of the beholder |
| 12:20.04 | orionshock | MoonWolf: no he's stating another aspect of this onGoing problem called the "WoWAceSVN" that will bite someone in the ass |
| 12:20.27 | Grum | but i'll make it easier, Cartographer_Routes will just not work unless you have Cartographer itself .. and not some kind of wonky fork |
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| 12:20.40 | MoonWolf | the svn is not a distro method , i will stand by this forever |
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| 12:20.53 | Speeddymon | ckknight: if the last thing you said was directed at my statement about incombatlockdown, dewdrop doesn't have to support rock at all.. all that needs to be done is to have an if (not InCombatLockdown()) in the code that actually opens the GUI.. i know there is more to it than that, and that I am oversimplifying it, but there has to be some way to do it |
| 12:21.12 | CIA-12 | 03pettigrow * r51028 10AckisRecipeList/ (ARLLocals-frFR.lua AckisRecipeList.toc): |
| 12:21.12 | CIA-12 | AckisRecipeList: |
| 12:21.12 | CIA-12 | - Added french translation |
| 12:21.26 | [Ammo] | Speeddymon: that would mean you can nolonger config rockconfig addons in combat thouygh from fubar |
| 12:21.26 | Speeddymon | pettigrow: /applaud |
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| 12:21.36 | [Ammo] | unless I'm misunderstanding you |
| 12:21.39 | Speeddymon | who would want to? you are IN COMBAT |
| 12:21.50 | orionshock | Speeddymon: inital setup |
| 12:22.06 | Speeddymon | but you are in combat.. you need to fight, or you die, not config an addon or die |
| 12:22.08 | [Ammo] | because some of the things need testing in combat, need setting up in combat, because they are only there in combat? |
| 12:22.13 | Speeddymon | hmm |
| 12:22.16 | orionshock | then again most addons that are used in combat have a config mode - IE Pitbull |
| 12:22.28 | [Ammo] | most = 1 |
| 12:22.40 | Speeddymon | then fine, dont use InCombatLockdown, use IsInInstance or whatever function it is that returns if you are instanced or not |
| 12:22.40 | MoonWolf | how about a dropdown menu with a config option in combat |
| 12:22.48 | MoonWolf | press that and the cofig screen comes up. |
| 12:23.11 | Speeddymon | MoonWolf: there are no dropdowns off fubar plugins in rock.. period |
| 12:23.28 | orionshock | tbh , add a dew drop menu back to the right click , ONLY give the option to move plugins arround and the rest get's done though rock config |
| 12:23.45 | Speeddymon | orionshock: /partialagree |
| 12:23.49 | MoonWolf | Speeddymon, the point is the requirement for a second click in case of mistake |
| 12:23.53 | Speeddymon | leave the dewdrop off |
| 12:23.54 | orionshock | perfectly viable netural ground. |
| 12:23.55 | MoonWolf | not to have drop downs |
| 12:23.59 | [Ammo] | sucks you can't configure violation through rock then, since that config was not written for waterfall/rock style config |
| 12:24.03 | weab | your argument about not changing addons in combat is retarded. |
| 12:24.06 | [Ammo] | I admit not having tested that |
| 12:24.14 | Stanzilla2 | have you guys ever considered that the might be a new version of dewdrop in the future that will support rock? |
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| 12:24.18 | [Ammo] | but I get people having errors trying to use rock for violation |
| 12:24.26 | orionshock | Stanzilla2: slightly irrelavent |
| 12:24.32 | MoonWolf | Stanzilla2, in the future we might have flying cars |
| 12:24.36 | MoonWolf | we are living in the now |
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| 12:24.52 | Grum | and now we are confusing our users with multiple offspawns of the same addons |
| 12:24.53 | orionshock | verson is not the issue it's implementation and use |
| 12:24.57 | Speeddymon | weab: most addons won't update their stuff until after combat ends anyways.. can anyone here name one addon that _absolutely has to without a doubt_ be configged while in combat? |
| 12:25.02 | Stanzilla2 | how about you help building it instead of ranting around? |
| 12:25.13 | orionshock | dew drop is not a all in wonder config method |
| 12:25.25 | Speeddymon | orionshock: /agree |
| 12:25.26 | orionshock | it's useful in certain places but not for everything |
| 12:25.31 | Speeddymon | most definitely |
| 12:25.41 | Stanzilla2 | it's useful for FuBar plugin configuration |
| 12:25.45 | weab | uh. most addons? |
| 12:25.49 | Lukian | Speeddymon, my action bars and damage meters |
| 12:25.54 | Grum | there is no nice way in dewdrop to make something like: http://grum.nl/config.jpg |
| 12:25.58 | weab | i think you're insane. most addons it doesn't matter if you're in combat or not, i'd say. |
| 12:25.59 | orionshock | so having a single drop down that lets you ONLY move plugin's arround, and the rest though the pref's window i viable middle ground |
| 12:26.01 | Lukian | my UnitFrames and keybinds lock down. |
| 12:26.09 | [Ammo] | orionshock: nor is rockconfig an all in one wonder method, neitehr is waterfall or console |
| 12:26.19 | Speeddymon | lukian: i use damage meters, and i have NEVER ONCE HAD to change their config while in combat |
| 12:26.26 | Grum | [Ammo]: RockConfig actually is |
| 12:26.31 | orionshock | indeed, but in context it is the method of choice |
| 12:26.33 | Nargiddley | haha |
| 12:26.35 | [Ammo] | in the eye of the beholder again grum |
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| 12:26.42 | Grum | it can do anything you could before and more |
| 12:26.45 | Lukian | Speeddymon, quite true, i usually do it after the battle |
| 12:26.50 | Lukian | the data is all stored |
| 12:27.05 | Speeddymon | Lukian: also, what action bars are you using? i've never seen a single action bar addon that was _able_ to be changed in combat |
| 12:27.10 | Nargiddley | Grum: its a marginal improvement over waterfall and a step backwards in some areas imo |
| 12:27.22 | Grum | which areas? |
| 12:27.24 | Lukian | Speeddymon, bartender |
| 12:27.31 | Grum | next to that it covers more screen |
| 12:27.34 | Grum | i agree on that fully |
| 12:27.40 | Speeddymon | i can't change shit about bartender in combat.. what you doing? |
| 12:27.45 | Nargiddley | full width controls don't work well |
| 12:27.51 | orionshock | Nargiddley: it's more versitile than waterfall, and configuring parrot with dewdrop was a bitch that i hated to do |
| 12:28.03 | Grum | Nargiddley: you can size the window so that is rather not relevant |
| 12:28.07 | Nargiddley | orionshock, as i said, marginally better |
| 12:28.09 | [Ammo] | orionshock: parrot had the optional waterfall didn't it? |
| 12:28.16 | baer_ | hmm... wow keeps freezing. |
| 12:28.21 | orionshock | [Ammo] i don't remember |
| 12:28.28 | Lukian | Speeddymon, maybe i'm wrong then |
| 12:28.34 | [Ammo] | I think all of ckk's addons witha fubar plugin had |
| 12:28.39 | Speeddymon | heh |
| 12:28.45 | Nargiddley | but i wouldnt say more versatile |
| 12:28.51 | Speeddymon | not to be a smartass, but i rest my case Lukian |
| 12:29.21 | Nargiddley | more consistant controls, new color picker, inline groups is about it |
| 12:29.29 | orionshock | i know you hate it.. but think about it, what addons do you know of that couldn't be graphicly reArranged into rock and then work better? |
| 12:29.39 | orionshock | only a few come to mind for me |
| 12:29.41 | Neebler | does doing /script collectgarbage('collect') |
| 12:29.45 | Neebler | work ingame? |
| 12:29.57 | Grum | but seriously, the only way to solve this is enhancing DewDrop |
| 12:29.57 | Nargiddley | compared to what orionshock ? |
| 12:30.10 | orionshock | -what they have current |
| 12:30.15 | [Ammo] | I like perfectraid's config for instance |
| 12:30.18 | orionshock | as that's really all i can say to compare to |
| 12:30.18 | [Ammo] | custom tailored for the job |
| 12:30.36 | Speeddymon | getting back to what the rest of the channel is saying.. yes rockconfig is more versatile and a big leap forward, and yes it's interface has made leaps and bounds since the initial commit to trunk, but it's still got things that need to be worked out, including some way of preventing the menu from opening while in combat, or in a raid.. hell i would even be happy with a user-configurable option to do so |
| 12:30.45 | orionshock | clique is another, it would not nicely fit into rock at all, the method employed is done quite well |
| 12:31.02 | Nargiddley | most addons with custom config windows would get alot worse |
| 12:31.05 | [Ammo] | MSBT |
| 12:31.11 | [Ammo] | quite a good config screen as well |
| 12:31.14 | Grum | orionshock: actually should not be a problem |
| 12:31.23 | orionshock | imho- SCT would get better if it was in rock... |
| 12:31.29 | Nargiddley | ew no |
| 12:31.39 | Speeddymon | PFFT |
| 12:31.41 | Grum | Nargiddley: i personally think that addons having custom config windows make the user-experience worse |
| 12:31.43 | orionshock | sorry it was just horrificly shitty when i used it |
| 12:31.58 | Speeddymon | fuck no.. dont EVER remove the sct gui.. |
| 12:32.09 | [Ammo] | remove the whole addon and replace it by MSBT |
| 12:32.11 | Speeddymon | orionshock: that is your opinion |
| 12:32.16 | [gk]Hotphoenix | tbh the colour picker in rock is very annoying to use, the enhanced colur picker mod is much more user friendly |
| 12:32.17 | [Ammo] | sct is a leaky cpu hungry biatch |
| 12:32.18 | Speeddymon | [Ammo]: lmao |
| 12:32.19 | Nargiddley | grum, personally I think shoehorning options into waterfall/rock that don't fit makes it much worse |
| 12:32.26 | Speeddymon | that may be but i dont care |
| 12:32.34 | [Ammo] | to each their own ofcourse |
| 12:32.39 | orionshock | just ew, options all over the place -- check boxes in little rows and half the time i didn't know if i clicked on it correclty or got the right option. |
| 12:32.43 | Grum | Nargiddley: i agree rock can get some optimizations and more rules to allow customisation |
| 12:32.44 | Punkie` | ammo i know what your problem is |
| 12:32.46 | Grum | but its a looong way there |
| 12:32.54 | Punkie` | people can't trust a man who shaves his chest |
| 12:32.54 | [Ammo] | Punkie`: autoattack on 1 |
| 12:33.00 | Nargiddley | I see waterfall and rock as about the same in terms of usability |
| 12:33.02 | Speeddymon | Grum: yes, which is why it is in svn, not on some release site |
| 12:33.06 | [Ammo] | Punkie`: hahaha |
| 12:33.09 | Punkie` | :D |
| 12:33.18 | Grum | Speeddymon: its still more complete than dewdrop |
| 12:33.20 | orionshock | anyone use WIM? |
| 12:33.27 | [Ammo] | what is WIM |
| 12:33.32 | Speeddymon | orionshock: im a beta tester on their forums.. whats up? |
| 12:33.33 | orionshock | WoW Instant Messinger |
| 12:33.52 | orionshock | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:33.54 | neenee | I use something else |
| 12:33.56 | MoonWolf | don' t like wim |
| 12:33.57 | Nargiddley | Grum, Waterfall and rock both have the same inherent limitations that wont get solved by small tweaks |
| 12:34.05 | chexsum | waterfall looks nicer |
| 12:34.10 | Speeddymon | lol wim doesn't even have to worry about integrating with rock.. |
| 12:34.20 | Grum | Nargiddley: like what? |
| 12:34.23 | MoonWolf | chexsum, thats so personal we could hardly discuss it. |
| 12:34.23 | Speeddymon | MoonWolf: when was the last time you used it? it's ace'd now |
| 12:34.37 | MoonWolf | half a year or so. |
| 12:34.41 | orionshock | but for Most DewDrop Based Config methods that are emply'ed by a good number of casual addons - geting them ported to something like rock is an improvement. |
| 12:34.41 | Nargiddley | single column controls, fixed tree + control layout |
| 12:34.57 | Grum | imho RockConfig needs 'html-like table placement' and tabs |
| 12:35.00 | Grum | but that's it |
| 12:35.03 | MoonWolf | Speeddymon, i simply don't like the idea of seperate windows for pm' s |
| 12:35.05 | Speeddymon | yea.. go download it again and check your options.. i think you might find it a little more pleasant than before (if not, then at least a little more bearable lol) |
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| 12:35.15 | orionshock | for Heavy Used and Complex addons that Need a custom config, if done right will always be better |
| 12:35.20 | Speeddymon | MoonWolf: no more sep windows, its all tabs now |
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| 12:35.28 | MoonWolf | iteresting |
| 12:35.32 | MoonWolf | might look at it then |
| 12:35.47 | orionshock | but making a custom GUI is a bitch all on it's own. |
| 12:35.47 | Speeddymon | MoonWolf: you can also completely disable the windows, if you want to just use it as a logger/sound notification of a whisper |
| 12:35.49 | [Ammo] | any GUI benefits from lots of thought |
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| 12:36.02 | Grum | and a GUI benefits more from unification |
| 12:36.06 | Speeddymon | but there are addons better suited to those 2 duties of course |
| 12:36.07 | neenee | What is tabbed? |
| 12:36.07 | [Ammo] | Rabbit spent hours on getting the BigWigs options sorted so the dropdown and waterfall make sense and are fast |
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| 12:36.21 | Speeddymon | neenee: the wim whisper frame is now |
| 12:36.29 | neenee | hm |
| 12:36.32 | [Ammo] | no-one ever complained about bigwigs config, it's to the point and structured well |
| 12:36.36 | neenee | I'll give it another shot then |
| 12:36.41 | orionshock | Grum: no, if you forget context then you invalidate arguments |
| 12:36.45 | neenee | But the last time I tried WIM, it looked huge |
| 12:36.49 | Speeddymon | and he just ace'd it recently |
| 12:36.53 | neenee | huge as in size-wise, on your screen |
| 12:36.58 | Grum | orionshock: how do you mean? |
| 12:37.46 | Speeddymon | depends on your resolution.. yes it is bigger than it needs to be, but you could always post a note on their forums asking for an option to make it more compact.. and there are options to remove the side buttons etc so it shrinks some |
| 12:37.52 | neenee | At the moment I use Cellular + an small addon of my own to play a sound when I get a whisper |
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| 12:38.25 | Speeddymon | cellular is nice, but doesn't have everything i'm looking for |
| 12:38.39 | orionshock | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:38.48 | Speeddymon | namely (iirc) it doesn't support cross-realm whispers in bg's |
| 12:39.06 | Speeddymon | orionshock: l2s |
| 12:39.14 | orionshock | sorry i can't type |
| 12:39.17 | Speeddymon | hehe |
| 12:39.24 | orionshock | i do it all day at work and hate to at home :P |
| 12:39.29 | Speeddymon | s/agenst/against/ |
| 12:39.32 | liquiem | [Ammo] that's because bigwigs doesnt need any big configurations to work properly |
| 12:39.47 | Speeddymon | ckknight: ping |
| 12:40.19 | orionshock | liquiem: i think bigwigs is more an example of (Time * Effort = payoff) |
| 12:40.22 | neenee | Speeddymon, it doesn't? Then again, I'm rarely whispered in BG, people are too busy with focusing on their objective. |
| 12:40.27 | weab | nothing should need major configuration to work properly. |
| 12:40.28 | Speeddymon | ckknight: u mind fixing the dang error with cooldowntimers _please_ |
| 12:40.30 | [Ammo] | liquiem: that has been the core feature of bigwigs |
| 12:40.48 | [Ammo] | liquiem: work well out of the box and only provide those options really needed, and provide them in a good structure |
| 12:41.07 | Speeddymon | neenee: if im bg leader and some jackass guildie isnt sticking to the plan for the premade, i'll whisper him to avoid embarrassment |
| 12:41.28 | neenee | I see. |
| 12:41.30 | [Ammo] | BigWigs was the first of the big modular addons, but it still does not have that ZOMGBIGMODULAR feeling on it |
| 12:41.36 | Speeddymon | but sometimes the premade dont come out right and i end up with some fag from another realm, so i gotta whisper him to let him know he's in a premade |
| 12:41.38 | neenee | Well, I just play for fun, so I wouldn't need that :) |
| 12:41.38 | Vangual | wtb 1g for every time i've had to tell people how to move bigwigs bars :P |
| 12:41.49 | neenee | WoW isn't a job to me. |
| 12:42.04 | Speeddymon | hehe it is to me because i write addons |
| 12:42.13 | Speeddymon | but its a job i like doing and i dont get paid for |
| 12:42.15 | Grum | [Ammo]: but what will you do with addons that rely on rockconfig? |
| 12:42.22 | Speeddymon | at least not paid money for it |
| 12:42.26 | [Ammo] | Grum: I will just not use them |
| 12:42.27 | Grum | will you also fork em? or explain the users they cant use it? |
| 12:42.33 | orionshock | ammo would you agree that one preGen'ed interface is no better or worse than another? (ie RockConfig vs Waterfall) |
| 12:42.49 | [Ammo] | the generated GUIs are usually crap |
| 12:42.59 | [Ammo] | but with some thought you can make something remotely decent out of it |
| 12:43.13 | Grum | most custom configs are so annoying |
| 12:43.24 | [Ammo] | anyone know if Violation is still confurable with dewdrop from fubar with the rock fubar? |
| 12:43.24 | liquiem | [Ammo], yes, bigwigs has a big out of the box experience, it just works (tm), but tbh the config without waterfall is a pita .. bar colors, textures and stuff ..eg more detailed config |
| 12:43.27 | Grum | KTM for example .. seriously makes you want to kill yourself |
| 12:43.31 | orionshock | then by those statements - would it not be plausable that rock will evolve into that? |
| 12:43.37 | weab | i like the rails motto. convention over configuration |
| 12:43.37 | dylanm | That's KTM -.- |
| 12:43.37 | [Ammo] | liquiem: that's why the waterfall is provided |
| 12:43.49 | orionshock | Grum: ktm gui blows and thats why i don't use it |
| 12:43.57 | orionshock | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:44.07 | [Ammo] | liquiem: but even then we chose to use the panel config instead of tree |
| 12:44.14 | [Ammo] | since it works better for bigwigs |
| 12:44.35 | Speeddymon | ~seen pastamancer |
| 12:44.38 | purl | pastamancer is currently on #wowi-lounge #wowace. Has said a total of 19 messages. Is idling for 1d 7h 27m 15s, last said: 'yeah, we had the resist gear for hydros ready so we took him down before solarian'. |
| 12:44.48 | Nargiddley | [Ammo], probably cause it was made custom for bigwigs :P |
| 12:44.55 | [Ammo] | ssssst |
| 12:44.57 | [Ammo] | don't tell em! |
| 12:44.59 | Nargiddley | heh |
| 12:47.42 | [Ammo] | soo did I get it right that FuBar-2.0 plugins are nolonger configurable with dewdrop in FuBar-3.0 ? |
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| 12:48.06 | neenee | Hm |
| 12:48.23 | [Ammo] | aka BigWigs / Violation / oRA2 for instance |
| 12:48.29 | neenee | I just noticed that, though I do not have any line in my Cowtip config, I see talents of myself and others in the tooltip? |
| 12:49.09 | liquiem | neenee, you have, look again in the config |
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| 12:49.48 | neenee | I do? Let me check then, though I setup Cowtip myself, from scratch |
| 12:50.00 | CrazyBenny | [Ammo] nah, if you right click on the oRA/BW/violation icon on fubar-3 you can still configure em with dewdrop |
| 12:50.10 | neenee | Oh I see |
| 12:50.11 | neenee | That's sneaky |
| 12:50.19 | neenee | A line has been added far below my custom config |
| 12:50.20 | Stanzilla2 | [Ammo]: they are still configurable |
| 12:50.22 | vhaarr | <[Ammo]> liquiem: but even then we chose to use the panel config instead of tree |
| 12:50.28 | [Ammo] | okiedokie |
| 12:50.33 | vhaarr | [Ammo]: That's not true, I instructed Nargiddley over several weeks on how it should work |
| 12:50.39 | vhaarr | Nargiddley made it for me |
| 12:50.47 | Nargiddley | I already mentioned that :D |
| 12:50.50 | [Ammo] | vhaarr: that's what he said |
| 12:50.55 | [Ammo] | vhaarr: and I said you spent hours on it |
| 12:51.03 | vhaarr | right, I hadn't read that far in the discussion |
| 12:51.04 | [Ammo] | vhaarr: so get off my back you silly rabbit! :) :) |
| 12:51.11 | [Ammo] | I mentioned it before |
| 12:51.22 | vhaarr | [Ammo]: I mentioned it to credit Nargiddley more than dissing you |
| 12:51.27 | [Ammo] | ah ok |
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| 12:52.16 | vhaarr | *burp* |
| 12:52.31 | vhaarr | earlier today I found I had 4 big fat sausages in the fridge that expired today |
| 12:52.38 | vhaarr | had to make an exceptionally large dinner for 1 |
| 12:52.45 | Grum | hehe |
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| 12:53.52 | weab | food immediately becomes deadly the day after it expires. fact |
| 12:54.04 | vhaarr | indeed |
| 12:54.26 | Xinhuan | [2007/10/05 20:51:08-3010-x1]: attempt to yield across metamethod/C-call boundary: |
| 12:54.28 | Xinhuan | woo :) |
| 12:54.46 | vhaarr | I've never seen that error, actually |
| 12:55.05 | Xinhuan | that's cos i forgot to remove coroutine.yield() when running the same function not in coroutine mode |
| 12:55.06 | Xinhuan | ;p |
| 13:00.25 | Grum | you still havent got it working? |
| 13:01.36 | Grum | ~whip Xinhuan |
| 13:01.36 | purl | ACTION takes Xinhuan outside to be thoroughly whipped by grum |
| 13:01.44 | Grum | oooe |
| 13:01.46 | Xinhuan | almost |
| 13:01.53 | Grum | fastar! |
| 13:02.55 | Xinhuan | its working already, but gotta integrate it with the non-background version |
| 13:03.08 | Grum | no slowdowns? O.o |
| 13:03.17 | Xinhuan | there will be obvious slowdowns |
| 13:03.32 | Xinhuan | taking about 5x longer because its running passively in the background |
| 13:03.42 | Xinhuan | and not affecting the framerate |
| 13:03.45 | Xinhuan | FPS that is |
| 13:04.40 | Grum | i dont really care for that |
| 13:04.54 | Grum | as long as any yield will give back the shortest route :) |
| 13:05.05 | Grum | so we have intermediate results |
| 13:05.08 | vhaarr | shortest route to what |
| 13:05.12 | Grum | to sex |
| 13:05.12 | vhaarr | Xinhuan: whattcha cookin |
| 13:05.13 | Grum | d0h |
| 13:05.17 | vhaarr | ooh |
| 13:05.18 | Grum | what else would be looking for |
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| 13:14.30 | Blaupunkt | hello all |
| 13:14.42 | tronned | ehlo |
| 13:14.52 | Blaupunkt | whats up |
| 13:15.25 | tronned | i a) hate nil frames b) cannot get args = function() to return a table |
| 13:15.36 | tronned | so i'm doing dailys and finding horde to vent my frustration on ;) |
| 13:15.47 | Blaupunkt | heh |
| 13:16.07 | Grum | euh? |
| 13:16.19 | Grum | that args=function, explain that :D |
| 13:16.21 | CIA-12 | 03kunda * r51030 10AHsearch/ (AHsearch.lua AHsearchLocal-deDE.lua AHsearchLocal-enUS.lua): AHsearch: minor localization fixes |
| 13:16.54 | tronned | i'm trying to dump UIParent:GetChildren() into a table to populate in to a dewdrop menu |
| 13:17.38 | tronned | args = function:getChildren() works, but returns only 164 or so child frames |
| 13:17.55 | tronned | even though if i get a current list of child frames, it's about 194-ish |
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| 13:18.42 | tronned | sample code: http://wowi.pastey.net/74833 |
| 13:18.52 | Grum | readin |
| 13:19.30 | tronned | list = { ... } works great, just returns less child frames, than what children = {...} reports |
| 13:20.04 | tronned | it's leaving out all the additional frames generated by AddOns, PitBull, AutoBar, Bartender3, etc |
| 13:21.19 | Nargiddley | at a guess its getting called before those frames are created |
| 13:21.44 | CIA-12 | 03ennuilg * r51031 10scorchio/ (5 files in 2 dirs): |
| 13:21.44 | CIA-12 | scorchio: |
| 13:21.44 | CIA-12 | - Removed Roster-2.1 and recoded RebuildMageList(). Scorchio! should handle cross-realm BGs now. |
| 13:21.44 | CIA-12 | - deDE localisation added. (Thanks to Cerelyn.) |
| 13:22.05 | tronned | why would it not run the function when it's called, ie.., when selected from the menu |
| 13:22.14 | tronned | it's like it preloads the function? |
| 13:22.25 | Grum | indeed |
| 13:22.31 | Grum | you store it static onload |
| 13:22.34 | Grum | not sure why :) |
| 13:23.01 | tronned | well, i am still learning. how to run it so it grabs :GetChildren() when called from menu? |
| 13:23.27 | tronned | when i try to do the same operation in args = function() ... end, it says args must be a table |
| 13:24.34 | Nargiddley | in the first case, its calling the function on load and setting args = what it returns |
| 13:24.41 | Nargiddley | in the 2nd its setting it to a function |
| 13:24.49 | tronned | but not running the function |
| 13:25.10 | Nargiddley | its setting it to the function itself, not its result |
| 13:25.20 | Nargiddley | so it isnt a table |
| 13:26.28 | tronned | ok, well, then i suck. so have to focus on calling the other function when? after OnLoad? |
| 13:27.09 | Nargiddley | idealy just before the menu opens, but running it often would be alot of garbage generated |
| 13:27.50 | tronned | i only need it once, after all the frames are loaded |
| 13:28.01 | tronned | or, better, right at the time the menu option is called |
| 13:29.45 | baer_ | btw, can Parrot show the produced threat instead of the done dmg? |
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| 13:32.11 | ramoz | baer_: thats useful.. |
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| 13:32.26 | baer_ | ramoz: i think that would be a nice addition. |
| 13:33.00 | ramoz | well, kinda useless to know your own threat if you dont know the tanks threat |
| 13:33.13 | baer_ | hmm... |
| 13:33.20 | baer_ | !c eu Todeswache |
| 13:33.25 | baer_ | !c eu Todeswache Reikki |
| 13:33.28 | ThraeBot | baer_: Reikki, Level 70 Human Warrior (17/44/0). 10024 HP; 7234 Armour; 2156 AP; 241.600 Melee DPS; 26.53% melee crit; 156 melee hit; 8.78% dodge; 5.16% block; 60 resilience;[[ TBR: 895 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/ytt3cn ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/2p5qhm ][ Updated: Fri Oct 5 09:34:11 2007 EST ]] |
| 13:33.33 | baer_ | :-} |
| 13:33.48 | tronned | show your threat / highest threat? |
| 13:34.24 | ramoz | get prism of inner calm :O |
| 13:34.49 | ramoz | isnt 156 hit like really really low for a fury warrior? |
| 13:35.14 | baer_ | oops |
| 13:35.20 | baer_ | farmspec... |
| 13:35.25 | baer_ | i'm usually def tank. |
| 13:35.35 | Blaupunkt | hmm |
| 13:35.46 | Blaupunkt | todeswache the realm? |
| 13:36.23 | baer_ | aye. |
| 13:36.32 | Blaupunkt | that work for any characer? |
| 13:36.38 | baer_ | yup |
| 13:36.54 | Blaupunkt | I'd be emberassed to show mine |
| 13:36.55 | Blaupunkt | lol |
| 13:37.02 | Blaupunkt | !c US Turalyon Blaupunkt |
| 13:37.04 | ThraeBot | Blaupunkt: Blaupunkt, Level 70 Dwarf Priest (20/0/41). 6761 HP; 8205 Mana; 155 mana regen; 23 mp5; 138 spell crit; 13 spell hit; 492 +spell dmg/heal; 107 frost dmg (599); 146 shadow dmg (638); 4.78% dodge; 4 resilience; 10 frost resist (+10);[[ TBR: 863 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/2bqr8n ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/33zqtz ][ Updated: Fri Oct 5 09:37:47 2007 EST ]] |
| 13:37.09 | Blaupunkt | :\ |
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| 13:37.22 | baer_ | shadow priest? |
| 13:37.29 | Blaupunkt | yea |
| 13:37.32 | tronned | !c US Mannoroth Astika |
| 13:37.34 | ThraeBot | tronned: Astika, Level 70 Human Rogue (16/45/0). 9134 HP; 1431 AP; 328.300 Melee DPS; 21.65% melee crit; 127 melee hit; 22.11% dodge; 119 resilience;[[ TBR: 2001 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/2agyv5 ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/2vnbyt ][ Updated: Fri Oct 5 09:38:17 2007 EST ]] |
| 13:37.36 | Blaupunkt | still getting gear |
| 13:37.38 | tronned | eep |
| 13:37.42 | tronned | WTB res |
| 13:37.51 | Xinhuan | .. i found out what was wrong with my code. |
| 13:38.02 | Kazie | Anyone who might lead me to an addon that works like KillingSpree, just on single kills? |
| 13:38.07 | Xinhuan | i forgot to set a isRunning flag BEFORE doing something, and did it AFTER T_T |
| 13:38.19 | Towbar | 16-45-0? |
| 13:39.19 | Astika | PvP Combat |
| 13:39.32 | Astika | no Imp Evis |
| 13:39.41 | Blaupunkt | what is TBR? |
| 13:40.23 | Hjalte | ~tbr |
| 13:40.23 | purl | rumour has it, tbr is ThraeBot Ratings -- a ThraeBot innovation. Working on a PvP-oriented weighted algorithm for what stats the Armoury currently has for your character, partially modified by build-type, it can be used to pit two characters in TBR vs TBR combat, and tries try to take into account which classes are fighting. (or "to be released") |
| 13:41.00 | Blaupunkt | ah |
| 13:41.32 | Blaupunkt | well I guess while I'm at it, anybody have suggestions for a good warrior UI |
| 13:41.57 | weab | warrior ui? |
| 13:42.19 | Blaupunkt | or anything really, but floats good with a warrior |
| 13:42.40 | Blaupunkt | rephrase that. a clean, functional UI |
| 13:42.47 | Astika | I like mine ^^ |
| 13:42.56 | weab | blizzard ui? |
| 13:43.03 | Blaupunkt | not that clean weab |
| 13:43.03 | Astika | Seems to work for all classes, though I have not tried Warrior, but friends have |
| 13:43.04 | Blaupunkt | lol |
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| 13:43.17 | Blaupunkt | you have a screenie Astika? |
| 13:43.22 | Grum | so anyone wants to call names at something? O.o |
| 13:43.35 | Kazie | Anyone who knows about an addon that works like KillingSpree, just on single kills? |
| 13:43.59 | Astika | Blau, http://antipersonnel.org/spartan/forum/viewtopic.php?t=219 & for super clean: http://antipersonnel.org/media/images/storage/071002-meef.jpg |
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| 13:44.55 | Blaupunkt | ah spart |
| 13:44.57 | Blaupunkt | spartaN* |
| 13:45.06 | Grum | omg that UI is so bloated |
| 13:45.16 | Enlight | hmm guys onli i have a problem with Pitbull and Fubar after latest update via Wowace updater ? :/ |
| 13:45.25 | Astika | bloated? :( |
| 13:45.46 | the-golem | lol |
| 13:45.53 | the-golem | i bet his bein sarcastic |
| 13:45.58 | Astika | I feel bloated. /stare coffee |
| 13:46.18 | Astika | the-golem, I am sure he is ^_^ |
| 13:46.18 | the-golem | Astika: how'd u get ur actionbars to look like that? |
| 13:46.37 | Astika | the-golem: layout or appearance? |
| 13:46.44 | the-golem | appearance |
| 13:47.11 | weab | all the bars seem excessive for my tastes |
| 13:47.14 | Astika | Dreamlayout style |
| 13:47.34 | Enlight | anyone ? :/ |
| 13:47.47 | the-golem | excessive? |
| 13:47.50 | Grum | no seriously |
| 13:47.52 | the-golem | theres like 2 bars .. |
| 13:47.55 | Grum | it has so much screenspace wasted |
| 13:47.57 | Grum | ask Ellipsis_ |
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| 13:48.20 | kebinusan | Enlight: what kind of problem? |
| 13:48.26 | Enlight | all my unitframes dissapeared + fubar too |
| 13:48.32 | Astika | most of my "in-action" screenshots are "worst-case" scenario. lots of buffs/cooldowns/activity |
| 13:48.36 | Enlight | but i can see them turned on in addon selection screen |
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| 13:48.53 | CIA-12 | 03jerry * r51032 10Babble-2.2/Babble-Boss-2.2/Babble-Boss-2.2.lua: Babble-2.2: Added a lot of new Boss names in esES, thanks geran |
| 13:48.55 | Enlight | it happend after i used wowace updater today |
| 13:49.03 | Astika | Enlight: Any errors at startup? |
| 13:49.06 | Enlight | no |
| 13:49.23 | Enlight | even i cant type /pitbull |
| 13:49.25 | Enlight | or /fubar |
| 13:49.30 | Astika | custom layouts for unit frames? oh |
| 13:49.33 | Enlight | it tells that its wrong command |
| 13:49.40 | Astika | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:49.50 | Astika | does it list PitBull or FuBar in there? |
| 13:50.00 | Enlight | hmm wait ill try |
| 13:50.32 | Enlight | but it may be the reason |
| 13:50.43 | Enlight | rock configuration... |
| 13:50.46 | Astika | I have not updated, so I am just speculating |
| 13:50.58 | Enlight | cos it doesnt show for any other addons too |
| 13:52.05 | CIA-12 | 03jerry * r51033 10Babble-2.2/Babble-Fish-2.2/Babble-Fish-2.2.lua: Babble-2.2: Babble-Fish, fix a couple of frFR translations, thanks tazmanyak |
| 13:52.11 | Enlight | btw while i am here |
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| 13:52.32 | Enlight | its possible to force 16:9 resolution for wow on regular 4:3 monitor ? [ windowed ] |
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| 13:52.48 | the-golem | yeah |
| 13:52.52 | the-golem | sorta |
| 13:53.18 | Enlight | realy ?:D can you tell me how ? |
| 13:53.53 | the-golem | you can set the resolution to like 12x9 or something, if its windowed, it *should* resize automatically, but not sure |
| 13:54.15 | the-golem | otherwise it'd just be stretched out too much vertically, and you'd have to manually resize |
| 13:54.47 | Enlight | i cant manualy resize becouse proportions are blocked at the 4:3 value for me ;/ |
| 13:55.05 | kebinusan | you could toss viewports on the top and bottm |
| 13:55.19 | kebinusan | I think |
| 13:55.27 | kebinusan | operation grasping at straws |
| 13:55.54 | Enlight | viewport is the only reason i guess... ehh |
| 13:55.59 | CIA-12 | 03jerry * r51034 10Babble-2.2/Babble-Race-2.2/Babble-Race-2.2.lua: Babble-2.2: add the missing Night/Blood Elf translations in frFR. |
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| 13:56.20 | Enlight | btw , ye /rock doesnt work |
| 13:56.30 | Enlight | so it's probably rock fault after update |
| 13:56.33 | Enlight | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:56.40 | Astika | :( |
| 13:56.47 | Enlight | i never liked it :/ |
| 13:56.53 | Enlight | and now i realy hate it |
| 13:56.54 | Astika | "solid as a rock" |
| 13:57.25 | Enlight | i dont understand why its forced to use Rock ... i cant event change profile using /fubar profile command ;/ |
| 13:57.58 | Grum | wtb good chat-addon |
| 13:57.59 | silentium | Enlight: do you use scrooge? I think rock disables itself when it detects scrooge or something |
| 13:58.04 | SunTsu | .o0( Here we go again ) |
| 13:58.07 | Astika | oh no |
| 13:58.32 | Grum | lets kill whiny people |
| 13:58.34 | Enlight | silentium! |
| 13:58.41 | SunTsu | Grum: I tried Prat yesterday, and I have to admit: I really like it |
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| 13:58.52 | Astika | shh, do not speak of the AddOn That-Must-Not-Be-Named |
| 13:58.55 | Grum | yeah but i want something that actually changes the chatframes |
| 13:59.02 | Enlight | you saved me!, i instaled scooge few min before update |
| 13:59.08 | Enlight | thank you for info |
| 13:59.15 | Grum | lol |
| 13:59.18 | Grum | then ckknight won :D |
| 13:59.22 | Grum | haha |
| 13:59.26 | Astika | lol |
| 14:00.34 | Health | wtf is scrooge? |
| 14:00.46 | [Ammo] | Grum: or the person did not read the included README.txt |
| 14:00.53 | [Ammo] | which explains on installation properly :) |
| 14:01.01 | Grum | ofc they dont |
| 14:01.03 | Grum | who does? |
| 14:01.07 | Grum | like .. no-one |
| 14:02.20 | SunTsu | .o0( Read? Oh, well, too old school ) |
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| 14:03.07 | cryogen | if it gets to a readme, then you lost ;p |
| 14:03.09 | cryogen | noone ever reads them |
| 14:03.20 | Grum | meh! how can you ever fit the minimap, chatframe, 5x5 grid, dps, threat, xrs on 1 wowscreen O.o |
| 14:03.34 | cryogen | Grum: how, indeed. |
| 14:03.35 | `-FISKER_Q | btw lulz machine sag_ich_nicht |
| 14:03.39 | `-FISKER_Q | apple fails |
| 14:03.45 | cryogen | especially if you dont have a 32" monitor |
| 14:03.46 | kebinusan | grum, get dash |
| 14:03.51 | Grum | dash? |
| 14:04.14 | weab | dash is neat. |
| 14:04.19 | cryogen | dash? |
| 14:04.24 | kebinusan | http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info7391-Dash.html |
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| 14:04.40 | kebinusan | It basically reparents things to a window you can optionally show/hide |
| 14:04.48 | kebinusan | for things like xrs that dont need to visible all the time |
| 14:04.52 | weab | osx dashboard |
| 14:05.41 | kebinusan | I find it useful for damage meters/xrs and other things I dont care about in combat |
| 14:05.42 | Gnarfoz | you don't need dps on screen |
| 14:05.47 | Gnarfoz | in fight, that is |
| 14:05.52 | Grum | the problem is that i have to be able to see them O.o |
| 14:06.25 | Xinhuan | grum check message |
| 14:06.42 | kebinusan | well |
| 14:06.42 | Enlight | hmm can i ask for advice about interface ? :p i mean screenshot [non combat] comments... ? |
| 14:06.45 | kebinusan | you can bring up dash in combat |
| 14:07.00 | kebinusan | I use it just for info I dont need all the time |
| 14:08.03 | weab | i'd like to be able to more quickly bring things off or onto the dash |
| 14:08.08 | weab | then i'd use it way more often |
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| 14:09.54 | kebinusan | I find setting ak eybinding to dash is easy enough for, but our needs seem to differ so of course ymmv |
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| 14:10.17 | kebinusan | I dont see the need to have a damage meter and XRS visible in combat |
| 14:11.20 | [Ammo] | I can't get used to a changing UI, so I don't use Dash although it's nifty |
| 14:12.13 | cryogen | i find damage meters useful to see |
| 14:12.50 | neenee | Dash looks interesting |
| 14:13.06 | Enlight | hmm guys what do you think about that [http://img172.imageshack.us/img172/8648/outofcombat1bh2.jpg ] [ http://img172.imageshack.us/img172/6526/combat1rm1.jpg ] ... [middle purple-gold circles are "you have no seal on pally _ _" indicator... |
| 14:13.20 | weab | if addons were built with dash in mind it'd work better |
| 14:13.34 | weab | i'd like to keep stuff like tinypad and wowlua windows on dash all the time |
| 14:13.46 | weab | but they're designed to not have the windows open all the time |
| 14:13.50 | steev64 | Enlight: spiffy |
| 14:14.14 | the-golem | Astika : iirc, cycircled doesnt have a dreamlayout |
| 14:14.28 | kebinusan | weab, true enough |
| 14:14.39 | the-golem | assuming you didnt use that, what *did* you use *forgive my nubishness |
| 14:15.01 | Enlight | umm what spiffy means ? xD |
| 14:15.18 | [Ammo] | nifty, intelligent, sweet |
| 14:15.23 | steev64 | Enlight: i wish my interface looked like that |
| 14:15.34 | Astika | the-golem, I don't use cy-circled, Dreamlayout is provided in Bartender3 |
| 14:15.35 | kebinusan | Im not sure, but couldnt you just edit dash to do a frame show for all the windows it controls if you wanted that feature |
| 14:15.40 | steev64 | sadly, i go with pretty much defaults with a few minor tweaks |
| 14:16.08 | Enlight | i use damn a lot of mods ,it loads tons of memory |
| 14:16.17 | Enlight | but i want to have "everything" i need |
| 14:16.24 | weab | what's with having a giant face on your unitframe |
| 14:16.25 | Enlight | so i worked on this ui since 6 months _ _ |
| 14:16.32 | weab | want to make sure you don't forget what you look like? |
| 14:16.32 | Enlight | hmm target frame |
| 14:16.40 | Enlight | below it is a small target-target |
| 14:17.07 | steev64 | weab: yes |
| 14:18.22 | Enlight | so its not that bad ? |
| 14:18.45 | weab | you shouldn't need validation from us on what you like for your ui. |
| 14:19.25 | Towbar | think i will spend a bit of time today cleaning my UI up a little |
| 14:19.28 | kebinusan | heh, pretty much most of my guildmates cant stand what my ui looks like |
| 14:19.29 | Enlight | my question was - if you like it, not me ;P |
| 14:19.31 | steev64 | Enlight: i like it asi i said |
| 14:20.16 | Enlight | hmm thx |
| 14:20.28 | Enlight | ill upload package soon to curse i guess |
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| 14:20.44 | Enlight | take care guys, and thx for help with my problem |
| 14:20.58 | omega_ | Enlight: whats that arrow? |
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| 14:22.08 | Astika | Arrow is CorpsePoint |
| 14:22.21 | Astika | or Waypoint |
| 14:22.24 | Enlight | waypoint |
| 14:22.28 | Enlight | for quest mobs |
| 14:22.50 | Enlight | its connected to lightheaded comments so if i click on coords [ingame] i have a arrow indicating where to go |
| 14:22.58 | Enlight | preetu usefull for quesitng ;D |
| 14:23.00 | omega_ | aha |
| 14:23.11 | Zhinjio | I wish Fubar would let you have a vertical bar. |
| 14:23.18 | Zhinjio | (thinking out loud) |
| 14:24.06 | Enlight | good point |
| 14:24.30 | Zhinjio | I have .... at least 15 fubar plugins that are just icons for opening GUIs of other addons. |
| 14:24.48 | Ellipsis | so why not hide them? |
| 14:24.52 | Enlight | as i know |
| 14:24.59 | kebinusan | Zhinjio, hide them and get waterfall |
| 14:25.00 | vhaarr | kebinusan: Dash sounds nice, but I don't want to download it. |
| 14:25.01 | Enlight | theres addon that makes all icons colapse into one |
| 14:25.02 | Astika | Zhinjio: same here, but bottom FuBar is on autohide :) |
| 14:25.08 | vhaarr | kebinusan: He has 666 downloads at the moment. |
| 14:25.14 | vhaarr | kebinusan: I don't want to break the number >< |
| 14:25.16 | Enlight | and when you mouse over it - rest scrolls bellow |
| 14:25.18 | Ellipsis | lol |
| 14:25.20 | Enlight | but i cant find it |
| 14:25.25 | kebinusan | vhaarr: hahah |
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| 14:25.51 | Zhinjio | um. well, several addons I have use waterfall. what would I mouse over? |
| 14:25.55 | kebinusan | vhaarr: you can check it out from the google svn |
| 14:26.04 | vhaarr | yeah I know :P |
| 14:26.08 | vhaarr | just had to say it |
| 14:26.23 | Zhinjio | I thought waterfall was a lib. |
| 14:26.26 | vhaarr | it is |
| 14:26.28 | kebinusan | err |
| 14:26.29 | kebinusan | niagra |
| 14:26.31 | Towbar | would anyone have a working script to bring an eepanel up when in a group? |
| 14:26.31 | kebinusan | I messed up |
| 14:26.36 | Zhinjio | then I don't follow, Ellipsis. |
| 14:26.40 | Towbar | i tried teh one on the website and it does not work properly |
| 14:26.47 | Ellipsis | you don't follow me? |
| 14:26.48 | Zhinjio | oh, sorry, Enlight. |
| 14:26.56 | Ellipsis | it's ok, I'm not much of a leader anyway |
| 14:27.02 | Zhinjio | Enlight: what addon does that? |
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| 14:27.30 | Ellipsis | Zhinjio, you can use Niagara or DeuceCommander to configure 99% of your Ace addons |
| 14:27.33 | Enlight | i dont remember |
| 14:27.34 | Zhinjio | two names that start with E talking at once, and me being up for 26 hours. |
| 14:27.38 | Enlight | i have seen it once |
| 14:27.41 | Towbar | also, i only fong profession fu last night and its awesome for saving 5 action bar buttons, is there a mount equivalent? |
| 14:27.46 | Enlight | in some kind of package over curse |
| 14:27.47 | Zhinjio | yeah, I have Niagara <3 |
| 14:27.54 | Towbar | like a fubar addon that lets you choose which mount to use in your bags |
| 14:27.57 | Enlight | but i forgot to download :/ |
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| 14:28.12 | Ellipsis | Towbar, l2macro? :P |
| 14:28.29 | Enlight | you have 1 icon on fubar - mouse over it -> and it scrolls down all icons hidden under it, so you can rightclick them... |
| 14:28.29 | Towbar | ellipsis i have a few flying and a few ground in bags |
| 14:28.34 | Funkeh` | hello |
| 14:28.49 | Zhinjio | I guess my original comment stands. I'd like to see a vertical bar in fubar. ah well. |
| 14:28.54 | Ellipsis | Towbar: cool, click the button for a random flying mount and right click it for a ground mount! |
| 14:28.54 | Zhinjio | *goes back to being idle* |
| 14:29.11 | Ellipsis | of course if you're not in a flyable area, left click would do ground mounts as well |
| 14:29.17 | Towbar | have you a working macro for that? |
| 14:29.20 | Ellipsis | sure |
| 14:29.26 | Towbar | awesome, could I have it please? |
| 14:30.00 | Towbar | trying to get rid of as many actionbar buttons as I can to get my UI a bit cleaner |
| 14:30.00 | Ellipsis | /userandom [flyable, button:1] your flying mounts here; your ground mounts here |
| 14:30.08 | Ellipsis | I just wrote that, so it probably won't work, but you get the idea |
| 14:30.26 | steev64 | Enlight: whats that arrow on your screenshot? |
| 14:30.48 | neenee | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:31.01 | Ellipsis | sure, if you wanna make it complicated :P |
| 14:31.08 | Gnarfoz | I hate how /dismount makes the icon go to "?" |
| 14:31.11 | Grum | which screenshot? |
| 14:31.18 | Towbar | once again thank you to the minds of #wowace :) |
| 14:31.45 | Ellipsis | mine is a bit more complicated than neenee's even >_< |
| 14:31.53 | neenee | I just googled |
| 14:31.57 | Grum | mm found it |
| 14:32.01 | Grum | not bad UI |
| 14:32.12 | sag_ich_nicht | #showtooltip |
| 14:32.13 | Towbar | but the thing i like about professionfu is that it gives me a simple list |
| 14:32.17 | Ellipsis | /dismount [mounted,noflying] |
| 14:32.20 | sag_ich_nicht | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:32.24 | neenee | But I do not have enough mounts to use random ones |
| 14:32.26 | Ellipsis | /stopmacro [mounted] |
| 14:32.27 | sag_ich_nicht | /cancelform |
| 14:32.41 | Towbar | hmmm |
| 14:32.43 | sag_ich_nicht | /dismount [mounted] |
| 14:32.48 | sag_ich_nicht | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:32.50 | Towbar | mountsFu could be my first project |
| 14:32.51 | sag_ich_nicht | /stopmacro [flyable,nobutton:2] |
| 14:32.56 | Ellipsis | /cast [flyable] Snowy Gryphon; [modifier:shift] Summon Felsteed; Summon Dreadsteed |
| 14:32.58 | sag_ich_nicht | /cast Summon Charger(Summon) |
| 14:33.05 | sag_ich_nicht | my mount macro > your mount macro, Ellipsis |
| 14:33.05 | neenee | I need to clean out my addons sometime. |
| 14:33.13 | Ellipsis | mine's better sag_ich_nicht |
| 14:33.19 | sag_ich_nicht | no it's not |
| 14:33.23 | Ellipsis | because nobutton:2 is useless on a keybound macro :P |
| 14:33.40 | Towbar | is ripping the code from professions fu and changing it to mountsfu acceptable? |
| 14:33.57 | sag_ich_nicht | Ellipsis: keybound mount macro? |
| 14:33.58 | Ellipsis | we just showed you that you don't need an addon, and now you're trying to hack togetheer an addon? |
| 14:33.59 | sag_ich_nicht | you suck! |
| 14:34.07 | Ellipsis | sag_ich_nicht: j to mount, k for armor spells. WIN! |
| 14:34.07 | Towbar | you are missing my point |
| 14:34.16 | Towbar | i want as few action buttons as possible |
| 14:34.20 | Enlight | take care guys! :) |
| 14:34.23 | Funkeh` | Ellipsis: Too much facepalming for one day, banned for the next 24 hours! |
| 14:34.24 | Enlight | have a good day! |
| 14:34.30 | Towbar | lol |
| 14:34.30 | Ellipsis | Towbar: you can do like I did and bind it to a key then |
| 14:34.34 | Ellipsis | Funkeh`: no u! |
| 14:34.44 | *** part/#wowace Enlight (i=snk@PC-77-46-34-119.euro-net.pl) |
| 14:34.47 | Ellipsis | I just woke up so that's my first facepalm of the day |
| 14:34.48 | Ellipsis | k? |
| 14:34.49 | Ellipsis | =] |
| 14:34.50 | kebinusan | awesome wedding cake: http://www.dumpt.com/images/showphoto.php/photo/4399/cat/538 |
| 14:34.50 | Towbar | i click for everythiung |
| 14:34.59 | Towbar | only keys I use in wow are 1-5 |
| 14:35.09 | Towbar | and even then i sometimes only use 3 of those |
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| 14:35.27 | Ellipsis | sigh |
| 14:35.38 | Towbar | all my fingers got broke when i was younger so i suck at fast key combos |
| 14:35.51 | Towbar | but i am quick wiuth a mouse |
| 14:35.51 | Ellipsis | I don't think your mount is something you need all that quickly |
| 14:35.58 | Ellipsis | you can afford a moment to find the mount key |
| 14:36.08 | Towbar | again, you are missing my point |
| 14:36.17 | Towbar | I want to remove as many actionbar buttons as I can |
| 14:36.23 | dfscott | hey there -- Q re: the SVN -- can I use it to version/store non-Ace addons that I write? |
| 14:36.29 | Ellipsis | you don't need an action button to bind a macro to a key |
| 14:36.30 | vhaarr | dfscott: yes |
| 14:36.31 | dfscott | or is it for Ace addons only? |
| 14:36.39 | Towbar | again you are missing my point |
| 14:36.45 | Towbar | and dont use keybindings |
| 14:36.45 | Ellipsis | ?/? |
| 14:36.46 | Funkeh` | dfscott: if they don't suck! |
| 14:36.54 | Ellipsis | you want it clickable, but you don't want a button for it? |
| 14:36.58 | Towbar | yes |
| 14:37.02 | Towbar | like professionsfu |
| 14:37.03 | Ellipsis | Funkeh`: can I facepalm again yet? |
| 14:37.07 | neenee | Hm |
| 14:37.07 | durcyn | dfscott: it's another Hello Kitty Island Adventure skinning theme, isn't it. |
| 14:37.08 | Towbar | saved me 5 actionbar buttons |
| 14:37.13 | Funkeh` | Ellipsis: okay |
| 14:37.19 | neenee | PetInfoFu has a bug |
| 14:37.23 | Ellipsis | ty Funkeh`, I needed that |
| 14:37.35 | neenee | It shows some weird text when no pet is out |
| 14:38.24 | dfscott | fair enough -- it's at http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/fileinfo.php?id=7631 -- have a look =) |
| 14:38.38 | Xandria | Speaking of /use (oh, the segue!), is there a way to use an item in an add-on? I'm new to this and not sure what to search for to discover the answer. |
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| 14:39.49 | Funkeh` | levelling guides >< |
| 14:39.51 | chexsum | woops @ creating an infinite loop in wow heh |
| 14:40.02 | Zhinjio | that looks like tinypad with pre-defined text. |
| 14:40.31 | Astika | finally! UIParent:GetChildren() outputs as a dewdrop menu. success! /gets_more_coffee |
| 14:40.45 | dfscott | yes, it is, except that it supports multiple chapters |
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| 14:41.08 | dfscott | tinypad only supports one, but you're right -- it's not earthshaking |
| 14:41.21 | cryogen | ok macro freaks how do i get a macro to /startautoattack if im not attacking and /stopautoattack if i am, and show the attack icon? |
| 14:41.35 | Funkeh` | dfscott: I would just go ahead :) |
| 14:41.58 | dfscott | ok thx |
| 14:41.58 | Zhinjio | dfscott: I wasn't trying to discourage you |
| 14:42.33 | dfscott | np - it's ok -- it's just a start until I learn a bit more about lua and UI |
| 14:43.06 | Funkeh` | WHat exactly is it for? horde/alliance and what starting race perspective? |
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| 14:43.51 | dfscott | ah, good point. It's for alliance and any starting race -- the guide itself is a repackaging of Azuarc's guide on allakhazam |
| 14:44.02 | dfscott | (I got permission to use it) |
| 14:44.13 | cryogen | Ellipsis: go on, i know you want to :) |
| 14:44.33 | Funkeh` | Maybe my warrior should dig into that |
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| 14:45.24 | dfscott | I've levelled a priest to 58 and a warrior to 38 with it, so I've been satisfied with it |
| 14:46.26 | Ellipsis | cryogen: lol, #show Attack /startattack /stopattack |
| 14:46.41 | Ellipsis | that's all you need to know, insert modifiers as necessary |
| 14:47.04 | dfscott | Q about the SVN: I noticed most entries have a format such as: FuBar_ClockFu-r18358.zip |
| 14:47.14 | dfscott | do I need to name my zip files like that or does the SVN version them for me? |
| 14:48.01 | neenee | Hm. I've never used LightHeaded |
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| 14:48.05 | Ellipsis | you don't upload zip files, dfscott |
| 14:48.19 | Ellipsis | you upload the source, and an auto-zip script packages the files for you |
| 14:48.33 | dfscott | doh! ok |
| 14:48.50 | dfscott | yep, I see it now |
| 14:48.55 | Ellipsis | if you want to poke around and get some idea of how things are done, http://fish.wowace.com |
| 14:48.57 | dfscott | <goes back to re-read SVN For Beginners again> |
| 14:49.04 | cryogen | Ellipsis: the modifiers are the bit i had problem with :p |
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| 14:49.13 | dfscott | cool thx |
| 14:49.25 | Ellipsis | pfft cryogen :P |
| 14:49.56 | Ellipsis | cryogen: wait, all you want it to do is toggle on/off? |
| 14:50.02 | cryogen | ye |
| 14:50.03 | Ellipsis | you can just use /attack for that |
| 14:50.11 | cryogen | you can? |
| 14:50.12 | Ellipsis | yeys |
| 14:50.14 | Ellipsis | yes* |
| 14:50.27 | cryogen | even with the current bug? |
| 14:50.41 | cryogen | (the reason for this in the first place) |
| 14:50.48 | Ellipsis | yees |
| 14:50.51 | cryogen | cool |
| 14:50.51 | cryogen | thanks |
| 14:50.53 | Ellipsis | the bug only affects /cast Attack |
| 14:50.56 | cryogen | ya |
| 14:50.56 | Ellipsis | but /attack works |
| 14:51.08 | cryogen | that is made of winness |
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| 14:51.15 | Ellipsis | ^-^ |
| 14:53.20 | neenee | Hm. Light Headed is not bad |
| 14:53.32 | cladhaire | it sucks |
| 14:53.35 | neenee | But a bit overkill perhaps |
| 14:53.51 | neenee | Why don't you like it? |
| 14:54.04 | cryogen | neenee: (s)he wrote it :p |
| 14:54.21 | neenee | I know |
| 14:54.28 | cladhaire | cryogen: he |
| 14:54.29 | neenee | I noticed the name on wowinterface |
| 14:54.32 | cladhaire | i have a pee pee |
| 14:54.33 | deltron | lol cladhaire |
| 14:54.49 | cladhaire | i'm parsing comments at the moment actually |
| 14:54.51 | deltron | lightheaded is <3 |
| 14:54.53 | cladhaire | tho i need to re-scrape from wowhead |
| 14:54.57 | cladhaire | cause of brewfest |
| 14:55.08 | cladhaire | and they changed quite a bit |
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| 14:58.31 | dfscott | I <3 lightheaded since alt-tabbing kills my lame computer |
| 14:59.09 | neenee | It doesn't show rewards though |
| 14:59.16 | cladhaire | why should it show rewards |
| 14:59.19 | cladhaire | the quest log shows you the rewards |
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| 14:59.34 | neenee | But not of quests further down the chain |
| 14:59.52 | cladhaire | i suppose i could write that in as an auto-comment |
| 14:59.57 | neenee | With wowhead I often check chains to see what the reward at the end is |
| 14:59.57 | cladhaire | are you just interested in items? |
| 15:00.03 | cladhaire | i could probably do that |
| 15:00.10 | cladhaire | i meani know i could |
| 15:00.11 | cladhaire | but i might |
| 15:00.11 | neenee | But don't do it for just 1 user |
| 15:00.19 | cladhaire | ? |
| 15:00.20 | neenee | I would probably not use lighthead |
| 15:00.28 | cladhaire | well your face is ugly! |
| 15:00.33 | neenee | :| |
| 15:00.36 | cladhaire | lol |
| 15:00.37 | cladhaire | :P |
| 15:00.42 | cryogen | thats one thing ive always wished it had tbh |
| 15:00.51 | neenee | Ah |
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| 15:00.55 | cryogen | theres something else too, while we're here |
| 15:00.56 | neenee | Then why did you not speak up |
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| 15:04.35 | CIA-12 | 03sirow * r51036 10Avion/ (14 files in 6 dirs): |
| 15:04.35 | CIA-12 | Avion: |
| 15:04.35 | CIA-12 | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:04.35 | CIA-12 | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:04.35 | CIA-12 | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:04.36 | CIA-12 | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:04.38 | CIA-12 | <PROTECTED> |
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| 15:05.26 | cryogen | i love friday afternoons |
| 15:05.28 | cryogen | they're so mature |
| 15:05.32 | Ellipsis | your mom |
| 15:05.43 | Ellipsis | ^-^ |
| 15:05.44 | cryogen | spamming coworkers with jabber messages full of emotes |
| 15:05.46 | baer_ | oO |
| 15:05.47 | cladhaire | cryogen: what was the something else? |
| 15:06.08 | cryogen | cladhaire: im not sure, but i think its something you cant do anyway |
| 15:06.19 | cryogen | im just trying to think of all the instances i alt tab when something isnt in lightheaded |
| 15:06.26 | cryogen | and most of them are just because the comments suck |
| 15:06.37 | cryogen | (ie: cant find the quest item, dont know which mob drops it, etc) |
| 15:08.35 | elusif | recommend a simple mod to put map cordinates on my minimap |
| 15:08.39 | elusif | i have cartographer already |
| 15:09.16 | elusif | simpleminimap |
| 15:11.11 | Hjalte | [Ammo]: What about letting the healthstone button in Necronomicon2 act as a "Ritual of Souls" button by right-mouse-clicking it or something like that? |
| 15:11.14 | hyperChipmunk | anyone here have newsgroup access could spare me a few hundred megs? |
| 15:12.39 | CIA-12 | 03sirow * r51037 10Avion/ (. Cooldowns/): |
| 15:12.40 | CIA-12 | Avion: |
| 15:12.40 | CIA-12 | <PROTECTED> |
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| 15:13.52 | alext | cladhaire: good job with lightheaded, yah I noticed the brewfest stuff isnt in there |
| 15:13.54 | kebinusan | hyperChipmunk: Find some llama porn you want downloaded? |
| 15:13.59 | alext | but thats just another one of your scans like yah side |
| 15:14.37 | hyperChipmunk | kebinusan: yes |
| 15:14.50 | hyperChipmunk | and the new civ4 crack too >8\ |
| 15:15.29 | hyperChipmunk | my authentic dvd is not 'authentic' if i'm runnnig linux |
| 15:15.35 | kebinusan | ah |
| 15:15.47 | *** part/#wowace Enlight (i=snk@PC-77-46-34-119.euro-net.pl) |
| 15:15.50 | Ellipsis | you need a crack for civ4? |
| 15:15.52 | Ellipsis | o.O |
| 15:16.12 | hyperChipmunk | and my friend is beating me up over not being able to play this weekend >8P |
| 15:16.12 | Ellipsis | I never had trouble with it... |
| 15:16.48 | hyperChipmunk | under wine? |
| 15:16.56 | *** mode/#wowace [+o MoonWolf] by ChanServ |
| 15:17.37 | Ellipsis | no, Windows - but I, shall we say, never had physical access to my Civ4 discs |
| 15:17.42 | CIA-12 | 03xinhuan 07WIP * r51038 10Cartographer_Routes/Cartographer_Routes/ (Core.lua TSP.lua): Cartographer_Routes: Add ability to perform TSP in the background without locking up WoW so you can play WoW! |
| 15:18.15 | Nandini | grr i cannot stand not having spanned desktop support in vista, i either need a single 30" monitor or go back to XP |
| 15:18.35 | Xinhuan | so, coroutines are pretty good after all |
| 15:18.40 | Xinhuan | for doing such stuff |
| 15:19.02 | Nandini | indeed xinhuan, almost as good as true threading |
| 15:19.04 | Xinhuan | near neligible memory use apart from compiling at runtime an extra copy of the TSP function |
| 15:19.34 | Sirow | Xinhuan: Whats Carto_Routes for? :) |
| 15:19.42 | Xinhuan | the best part, i can call the blocking TSP function while the non-blocking one runs |
| 15:19.55 | Xinhuan | so it performs 2 paths ;p |
| 15:20.13 | Nandini | it could do a huge herbs path for me in the background while i'm doing a quick mining run? |
| 15:20.18 | Xinhuan | Yes |
| 15:20.26 | Xinhuan | that is how it works |
| 15:20.35 | Nandini | sweet |
| 15:20.51 | Xinhuan | a large data set of about 400 nodes will take about 15 secs blocking, o about 1 minute non-blocking |
| 15:20.54 | Xinhuan | on my computer at least |
| 15:20.55 | Sirow | GIEV! :> Its useable allready? |
| 15:21.06 | Ellipsis | they're taking their sweet time |
| 15:21.24 | Gnarfoz | let them, and it well be even more awesome than it already is! |
| 15:21.24 | Xinhuan | hey there's complicated algorithms involved in generating near-optimal paths! |
| 15:21.34 | Xinhuan | and a lot of math involved with drawing lines across your minimap in real time |
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| 15:21.44 | Xinhuan | so that it doesn't intersect your border of the minimap |
| 15:21.45 | Mikk | travelling salesman @ 400 nodes huhu |
| 15:21.58 | Ellipsis | I don't care how awesome it is if I die before it's released |
| 15:22.01 | Nandini | yay matrix math texture transforms |
| 15:22.23 | cladhaire | have a screenshot of it? |
| 15:22.34 | Sirow | Ellipsis: Allways make sure to clone yourself ;) |
| 15:22.34 | Gnarfoz | somewhere... |
| 15:22.39 | ramoz | weab: ping? |
| 15:22.44 | Gnarfoz | cladhaire: http://grum.nl/carto/3_one_of_the_tsp_iterations.jpg |
| 15:22.52 | Gnarfoz | dunno if that's what the public version is capable of, yet |
| 15:22.59 | Ellipsis | Sirow: I broke my cloning machine, can I borrow yours? |
| 15:23.01 | ramoz | weab: Spirit of Olum 's exact words are -> "Take me to the other Deathsworn, Olum." |
| 15:23.09 | hyperChipmunk | where's Tekkub? he must have a newsgroup account to get all his bear pr0on |
| 15:23.14 | the-golem | Gnarfoz: wtf is that? |
| 15:23.27 | Gnarfoz | the-golem: my answer to cladhaire's question! :> |
| 15:23.30 | Sirow | Ellipsis: NEVER!!! |
| 15:23.45 | hyperChipmunk | Tekkub: wake up and save meh! |
| 15:23.52 | Gnarfoz | i.e. scroll up about 15-20 lines and you will see what the topic is :P |
| 15:24.44 | CIA-12 | 03funkydude * r51039 10BigWigs/BlackTemple/Shahraz.lua: BigWigs: BlackTemple/Shahraz: use a yell for 10% enrage instead. |
| 15:25.26 | CIA-12 | 03xinhuan 07WIP * r51040 10Cartographer_Routes/Cartographer_Routes/Core.lua: Cartographer_Routes: Force a minimap lines redraw on changing minimap zoom. |
| 15:25.28 | Xinhuan | Gnarfoz: it is |
| 15:25.54 | Arcaia | ~! |
| 15:25.55 | purl | well, ! is what my big sibling dpkg uses instead of ~, or not, or what dpkg uses dumbass |
| 15:26.00 | Gnarfoz | Xinhuan: neat, grum said something along the lines of 'maybe it will be able to do [sth], but maybe only on my local copy', so I didn't know ;) |
| 15:26.27 | Xinhuan | my next target is to optimize my two-opt code for pruning |
| 15:26.51 | Gnarfoz | can anyone recommend good raid buff mods, not necessariliy universal for all classes? we're looking to cut down on our time wasted (re-)buffing before tries and after (partial) wipes |
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| 15:27.14 | cladhaire | Gnarfoz: thanks. |
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| 15:27.27 | Gnarfoz | I'd personally tend to something like a pre-configured XRS, but perhaps there are better alternatives ;-) |
| 15:27.44 | Sirow | XRS, nBuffBars? |
| 15:27.44 | cubicool | Is the author of "Aloft" here? |
| 15:28.08 | Gnarfoz | ~seen roartindon |
| 15:28.09 | purl | roartindon <n=jtlim@ppp121-45-69-170.lns10.adl6.internode.on.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 18d 13h 3m 4s ago, saying: 'sylvanaar: which part of the regex don't you understand?'. |
| 15:28.18 | hyperChipmunk | haven't seen him in awhile |
| 15:28.19 | Gnarfoz | cubicool: ^--- |
| 15:28.20 | hyperChipmunk | yeah |
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| 15:28.44 | Gnarfoz | Sirow: hmm gotta have a look at nbuffbars, never heard of it :) |
| 15:29.04 | neenee | ~seen naenee |
| 15:29.05 | purl | naenee <i=neenee@a62-251-64-42.adsl.xs4all.nl> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 8d 23h 23s ago, saying: 'based on periodic table'. |
| 15:29.13 | cubicool | Bah. Is there another "Nameplates" mod out there then? |
| 15:29.25 | cubicool | Aloft doesn't actually work... |
| 15:29.29 | hyperChipmunk | cubicool: if you have a question or problem, ask it here |
| 15:29.47 | Gnarfoz | cubicool: yes, it's 'predecessor' "Nameplates modifier" by Shadowed, but what's wrong with Aloft? working fine her |
| 15:29.50 | Gnarfoz | e |
| 15:29.52 | Ellipsis | mmm, spam |
| 15:29.52 | cubicool | Well, the key element of Aloft for me is to avoid seeing enemy pets or vipers from traps, etc. |
| 15:30.09 | cubicool | But both of these things appear no matter how I configure Aloft. |
| 15:30.15 | Nandini | Xinhuan: i suppose one limitation of your implementation is that it cannot take obstacles into account, so it is really only useful for flyable paths |
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| 15:30.26 | cubicool | (In the Visibility configuration, you can turn this off--but it shows up anyway) |
| 15:30.30 | Ellipsis | "African tribes take these herbs all the time, this is why they have such..." somehow I love Gmail for cutting off the text at that point |
| 15:30.36 | Gnarfoz | right, but who hasn't got a flying mount? :) |
| 15:31.04 | Xinhuan | Nandini: that is correct - however it is possible to add a "ground obstacle map" and use A* algorithm to work out routes between nodes for landmaps |
| 15:31.08 | Ellipsis | maybe they're farming to buy theirs Gnarfoz! |
| 15:31.16 | Xinhuan | but that is very far off into the future |
| 15:31.24 | qwesto | cubicool: It can't be hidden in combat. |
| 15:31.25 | Nandini | Xinhuan: I was thinking it would be useful to recruit people to scout obstacle maps |
| 15:31.27 | cubicool | It's impossible to be effective in a BG when every hunter you come across has snake trap down, polluting your screen with both their lame pet which they've named "Cat" and thei snakes. |
| 15:31.27 | Gnarfoz | Ellipsis: normal mount? you only have to level up to 70 to be able to buy that ;> |
| 15:31.35 | Xinhuan | maybe ;p |
| 15:31.37 | SunTsu | Ellipsis: Why? Aren't you into alchemists in real life? |
| 15:31.38 | Nandini | including low-cost/high-cost obstacles |
| 15:31.40 | Ellipsis | Gnarfoz: it still costs 1k |
| 15:31.48 | Ellipsis | SunTsu: maaaaaybe |
| 15:31.50 | cubicool | qwesto: Ah... |
| 15:32.06 | cubicool | Is that a current restriction from Blizzard, then? |
| 15:32.07 | Xinhuan | i'm also looking at a possible technique to possibly "group multiple nodes" that are close together into 1 node as a single travel point for the path generation |
| 15:32.13 | Ellipsis | I dunno about you guys but when I hit 70 I had to farm for a few days to afford my flying mount |
| 15:32.15 | Xinhuan | that will reduce the number of nodes |
| 15:32.15 | Ellipsis | =[ |
| 15:32.17 | Gnarfoz | Ellipsis: yeah, which I was fully aware of - questing to level 70 will return that much money ;) |
| 15:32.24 | Ellipsis | not if you don't quest |
| 15:32.27 | Ellipsis | which I didn't :P |
| 15:32.32 | Gnarfoz | erm yeah |
| 15:32.38 | Xinhuan | the radius for find ore/herbs is 80 yards i think? |
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| 15:32.50 | Gnarfoz | dunno, it's laggy anyway |
| 15:32.50 | Xinhuan | so i can collapse multiple nodes together into a single node |
| 15:32.52 | Gnarfoz | very laggy |
| 15:32.52 | Ellipsis | theoretically 100 if you stand still, I think |
| 15:33.02 | Nandini | true, your path could take people to a centroid of nodes, where they would all be visible on the minimap |
| 15:33.11 | Xinhuan | however on a epic flying mount, it could be different due to ping and stuff |
| 15:33.25 | Xinhuan | you usually fly faster than the server tells you about the node ;p |
| 15:33.29 | Ellipsis | the server tries to predict your location so you can sometimes see farther ahead and not as far behind, even if you're not actually going the same direction (depending on lag) |
| 15:33.29 | Gnarfoz | yup. |
| 15:33.44 | cryogen | yeah gotta love that |
| 15:33.51 | cryogen | land somewhere, 5 mobs appear |
| 15:33.52 | Xinhuan | still it is a possible local optimization and i'm looking at ways to implement this |
| 15:33.57 | Gnarfoz | actually, that's the 'area of interest'-thingy that was supposed to be fixed in a recent patch |
| 15:34.02 | Ellipsis | lol |
| 15:34.05 | Ellipsis | fix, patch, hahaha |
| 15:34.06 | Gnarfoz | but I think it only was for taxi mounts, not for your own mounts? |
| 15:34.07 | Xinhuan | its quite mathematically intensive and i haven't quite thought of a good way to implement it yet |
| 15:34.13 | Nandini | my reasoning behind obstacles is not only that 90% of the content right now is unflyable (azeroth), but that in the next expansion, flying will be limited for many levels |
| 15:34.21 | Ellipsis | Gnarfoz, that's because they can't fix it for your own mounts |
| 15:34.25 | Ellipsis | taxi mounts have predictable paths |
| 15:34.29 | Arcaia | Ellipsis: Tegucigalpa? |
| 15:34.34 | Ellipsis | so they *know* where you'll be at X time |
| 15:34.36 | Gnarfoz | Ellipsis: they *could*, it's called interpolation... |
| 15:34.47 | Ellipsis | Gnarfoz, that's what they attempt and fail at now... |
| 15:34.51 | Gnarfoz | or extrapolation, whichever way you want it |
| 15:34.57 | Gnarfoz | yeah, I know |
| 15:35.03 | Ellipsis | they can't predict your path accurately |
| 15:35.07 | Ellipsis | only you know where you're going :P |
| 15:35.08 | Gnarfoz | but it could still be improved upon |
| 15:35.10 | Nandini | Gnarfoz: anything that increases server processing time is undesirable |
| 15:35.16 | Gnarfoz | Nandini: you tell me? :p |
| 15:35.17 | kebinusan | bleh, I dont want to spend 1750g for a blessings deck |
| 15:35.22 | Towbar | UI is totall reorganised now :) |
| 15:35.23 | Gnarfoz | kebinusan: then don't :D |
| 15:35.24 | Ellipsis | sure, but not enough to make Xinhuan's problem go away, not at epic flying speed |
| 15:35.33 | kebinusan | Gnarfoz: I want the card tho |
| 15:35.38 | kebinusan | tis a struggle |
| 15:35.38 | Ellipsis | Towbar: pix plz |
| 15:35.43 | Arcaia | Towbar - I need a screenshot. |
| 15:36.00 | Xinhuan | would anyone like to suggest an efficient algorithm for this "node clustering centroid" problem? |
| 15:36.01 | Gnarfoz | Ellipsis: improving the situation is favorable compared to not improving it, even if "making it go away" is not acheivable |
| 15:36.08 | Arcaia | Towbar and I go -wayyyyyy- Back. |
| 15:36.10 | Towbar | "Talented: Talented can not perform the required action because it does not have the required talent data available for class WARRIOR." |
| 15:36.15 | Towbar | anyone to stop that spam? |
| 15:36.17 | Ellipsis | Gnarfoz: I disagree, my server lags enough already |
| 15:36.18 | Towbar | anyway |
| 15:36.25 | Arcaia | install Talented_data |
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| 15:36.47 | Gnarfoz | err yeah |
| 15:36.55 | Arcaia | Seriously. |
| 15:36.57 | Arcaia | ;P |
| 15:37.02 | Towbar | ok thank you |
| 15:37.17 | Arcaia | If that doesn't rectify, try updating all ;P |
| 15:38.11 | Ellipsis | hmm |
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| 15:38.49 | Ellipsis | anyone know of any inventory addons that give you a bag bar you can just hover to open, without actually having to click on them? |
| 15:38.52 | Arcaia | I said Rectify. |
| 15:38.56 | Towbar | whats the best of the spam blockers? |
| 15:39.03 | Towbar | like topper mcnab and such |
| 15:39.04 | dalhia | Hey, 2 bugs I just cant track down, if anyone could be so friendly to give me some pointers ;) : |
| 15:39.07 | Towbar | and addon spam |
| 15:39.08 | Arcaia | Ellipsis: no I do not, but that would be amazing |
| 15:39.22 | Arcaia | Towbar -> !StopTheSpam works wonders for me |
| 15:39.23 | Ellipsis | Towbar, devnull? |
| 15:39.51 | dalhia | 1) The /tt function of prat gives me 'playername'- instead of just 'playername'. Hovering over unitframes of people of my own server also gives me 'playername'() instead of just 'playername' |
| 15:40.10 | Towbar | my UI is so different now |
| 15:40.17 | Ellipsis | dalhia, it's caused by a Blizz bug which theoretically should be fixed next patch |
| 15:40.20 | Towbar | arcaia may not even want to castrate me now |
| 15:40.25 | dalhia | ah, thanks Ellipsis |
| 15:40.28 | Towbar | incase I polute the world further |
| 15:40.38 | Ellipsis | many authors have put in fixes in the meantime, you'll have to bug one of the Prat people for that though |
| 15:40.42 | Arcaia | dalhia -> they changed the way player names are referrenced I believe, might require some tweaking of config files on your part [donno, I dont use prat] |
| 15:40.46 | Arcaia | and Towbar - > Screenshot |
| 15:40.56 | Towbar | sec |
| 15:40.59 | Arcaia | I promise constructive [less violent] criticism at the most. |
| 15:41.01 | Towbar | just configuring grid |
| 15:41.10 | dalhia | Well, I can wait till 2.2.3 I suppose ;) using WAU but no build on there has a fix |
| 15:41.17 | Towbar | and installing stopthespam again |
| 15:41.19 | dalhia | not really that vital |
| 15:41.24 | cryogen | Ellipsis: autobar. :p |
| 15:41.30 | Ellipsis | cryogen, diaf |
| 15:41.44 | cryogen | well, the new version will do what you're asking, sort of |
| 15:41.46 | Arcaia | Dive into a Farmer? |
| 15:42.15 | dalhia | Second thing isnt that important just.. weird. I lost the mana cost in tooltips from my toolbar spells. Everything else shows ok, and in my spellbook tooltips have mana cost. But not on my toolbar. |
| 15:42.24 | Ellipsis | cryogen: will it do it for entire bags at a time? |
| 15:42.29 | Ellipsis | including non-consumable stuff? |
| 15:42.41 | cryogen | it can, but not the way you're talking about |
| 15:42.43 | the-golem | Towbar: *koff* pix |
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| 15:42.47 | Ellipsis | seee |
| 15:42.55 | cryogen | the new version you can basically put whatever you want on the bar |
| 15:42.59 | dalhia | Has been like this for a while acutally, and just on this pc. Still havent managed to track down what addon is causing it though :S (I have the exact same addon list on another pc without that 'feature' :P, didnt copy WTF though) |
| 15:43.05 | lprich | moin moin |
| 15:43.27 | Ellipsis | dalhia, which action bar addon do you use? |
| 15:43.33 | dalhia | bartender |
| 15:43.39 | Ellipsis | hmm |
| 15:43.46 | dalhia | tinytip for tooltips |
| 15:44.03 | Ellipsis | did you try the Blizz interface options "enhanced tooltips" setting? |
| 15:44.09 | dalhia | and I even disabled DrDamage some time ago I think, so those should be the only addons interfearing |
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| 15:44.22 | dalhia | pretty sure I toyed around with that option, but I'll check again to be sure :) |
| 15:45.07 | Arcaia | DrDamage >.> |
| 15:45.18 | Arcaia | that will replace them >.> |
| 15:45.20 | Arcaia | donno |
| 15:45.26 | Ellipsis | DrDamage just adds info |
| 15:45.27 | Arcaia | dont know how to get them 'back' |
| 15:45.29 | cryogen | where did cncfanacits wander off to i wonder |
| 15:45.30 | Ellipsis | doesn't replace it |
| 15:45.36 | cryogen | tics* |
| 15:45.39 | Arcaia | yea, but it also can add the mana cost i believe >.> |
| 15:45.39 | dalhia | I disabled drdamage aswell some time ago |
| 15:45.45 | dalhia | still didnt had the mana cost |
| 15:45.54 | Arcaia | hrm.. |
| 15:45.56 | Arcaia | are you a rogue? |
| 15:45.57 | Ellipsis | Arcaia, the default tooltips have mana cost... |
| 15:46.01 | Ellipsis | lol |
| 15:46.11 | dalhia | logging in now :) (I better not have noobed out on that interface option :P ) |
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| 15:47.48 | dalhia | ok, weird. Enabling DrDamage adds the mana cost |
| 15:48.16 | dalhia | I'll just not touch anything related to tooltips again :P thanks for the help guys |
| 15:48.32 | Ellipsis | Arcaia hax |
| 15:49.19 | CIA-12 | 03dfscott * r51041 10AzuarcLevelGuide/ (28 files): |
| 15:49.19 | CIA-12 | AzuarcLevelGuide: initial commit |
| 15:49.19 | CIA-12 | - In-game version of Azuarc's Leveling Guide |
| 15:50.13 | *** join/#wowace cncfanatics (i=evolve@59.74-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be) |
| 15:50.33 | cncfanatics | hello ppl |
| 15:50.44 | *** part/#wowace lprich (n=rascal84@unaffiliated/rascal84) |
| 15:50.54 | cryogen | talk of the devil |
| 15:50.57 | cryogen | how goes it? |
| 15:51.01 | cncfanatics | good good, you ? |
| 15:51.09 | cryogen | aye, usual slacking friday afternoon |
| 15:51.23 | cryogen | before i forget: |
| 15:51.25 | cncfanatics | whats up ? |
| 15:51.27 | cryogen | right click self cast, how? |
| 15:51.28 | Towbar | ok screen done |
| 15:51.30 | Towbar | upoloading |
| 15:51.37 | cncfanatics | cryogen, hmmmm, can't atm |
| 15:51.40 | cryogen | givf |
| 15:51.43 | cncfanatics | should add a modifier for that |
| 15:51.47 | cncfanatics | I'll check how to do it |
| 15:51.53 | cncfanatics | probably a set modified click |
| 15:51.58 | cryogen | i want to be able to right click self cast *at all times* :) |
| 15:52.08 | Arcaia | Ellipsis: http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info6394-AutoRack.html -> ? |
| 15:52.20 | cncfanatics | cryogen, its prolly ez with the new modified click sytstem |
| 15:52.30 | cryogen | ya, i think it is |
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| 15:53.22 | cncfanatics | Tekkub, if ur around, cheers for making FB wiki prettyer :) |
| 15:53.34 | cryogen | i also looked at the buff timer thing |
| 15:53.39 | cryogen | i sort of have a vague idea of how to do it |
| 15:53.42 | cryogen | but not really |
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| 15:53.49 | Towbar | old UI layout |
| 15:53.52 | Towbar | http://tsni.biz/wow/lastest-sept.jpg |
| 15:54.05 | Towbar | new UI layout: |
| 15:54.07 | Towbar | http://tsni.biz/wow/latest-screen-oct5.jpg |
| 15:54.24 | Fisker- | hmm |
| 15:54.32 | Towbar | might pull the NECB down alot |
| 15:54.37 | Fisker- | your name sucks Towbar |
| 15:54.41 | Ellipsis | no u |
| 15:54.44 | Fisker- | no u |
| 15:54.46 | Towbar | thanks kisker :) |
| 15:54.49 | Ellipsis | yeah I do actually |
| 15:54.54 | Towbar | fisker* |
| 15:54.58 | Arcaia | Better. |
| 15:55.10 | Arcaia | I don't like your group setup though >.> |
| 15:55.23 | Towbar | party targets are nice for arena |
| 15:55.34 | Towbar | to see who isnt attacking nuke target |
| 15:55.38 | Arcaia | I suppose ;P |
| 15:55.40 | Ellipsis | Towbar, get rid of some minimap buttons |
| 15:55.47 | Arcaia | Yea, clear off that minimap. |
| 15:56.01 | Towbar | yea was thinking of that too |
| 15:56.03 | cryogen | nou |
| 15:56.18 | Towbar | but its alot cleaner so far |
| 15:56.24 | Arcaia | So many casting bars |
| 15:56.32 | Arcaia | One in top left. Two in the middle >.> |
| 15:56.34 | Towbar | player and target |
| 15:56.52 | Towbar | and tot castbar is nice in pvp |
| 15:57.07 | Arcaia | donno. think they could be better organized [just my opinion] ;P |
| 15:57.19 | Towbar | in what way? |
| 15:57.26 | Arcaia | stacked more efficiently |
| 15:57.38 | Towbar | player and target castbars? |
| 15:57.43 | Arcaia | I'm a tight/clean person, yours is abusing too much space for what it's doing ;P |
| 15:57.58 | Towbar | i like them stacked like that to see who will cast first |
| 15:58.08 | Arcaia | bind a key to stealth and hide stancebar for rogue ;P |
| 15:58.22 | CIA-12 | 03funkydude * r51042 10BigWigs/Plugins/Sound.lua: BigWigs: Plugins/Sound: Remove PlaySoundFile tweak since it more or less sounds fixed, if anyone thinks otherwise please change it back. |
| 15:58.22 | Towbar | i am not so great with keybindings |
| 15:58.22 | Arcaia | well all mine are stacked on top of my energy ticker, just for instance ;P |
| 15:58.40 | Arcaia | zomg you click as a rogue? |
| 15:58.52 | Towbar | yea |
| 15:58.55 | Funkeh` | What do you click as a rogue? You only have 1 button. |
| 15:59.02 | Towbar | when i was younger my fingers all got broke |
| 15:59.08 | Towbar | hence i make so many typos |
| 15:59.24 | Towbar | funk... dont start me on ppl thinking all i do is sinister |
| 15:59.34 | Arcaia | rofl. |
| 15:59.40 | Arcaia | Rogue's are more than SS spam |
| 15:59.42 | cryogen | Towbar: it isnt? |
| 15:59.44 | Arcaia | I spam backstab too! |
| 15:59.44 | Towbar | WAY more |
| 15:59.45 | Arcaia | and shiv. |
| 15:59.59 | otravi | and sometimes you don't spam anything at all |
| 16:00.02 | Arcaia | It is quite complicated to Raid as a rogue and actually perform well. |
| 16:00.34 | Arcaia | 1s/3s/5r/3s =P |
| 16:00.42 | Ellipsis | heh |
| 16:00.50 | Arcaia | For non rogues |
| 16:01.09 | Towbar | sinister, SnD, feint, evis, envenom, vanish, sprint evasion, attack, CoS, ad rush, BF, kidney shot, rupture, shiv, garrot, cheap shot all used in raids |
| 16:01.20 | Arcaia | 1 combo point move -> slice n dice -> 3 combo points -> Slice n Dice -> 5 combo points -> Rupture -> 3 combo points -> refresh SnD |
| 16:01.31 | Arcaia | yea, all rogue abilities get play time |
| 16:01.54 | Arcaia | 12345QE678RT - SHIFT 12345QE678RT |
| 16:01.58 | Arcaia | I use them all ;P |
| 16:02.05 | Towbar | i cli9ck for all |
| 16:02.08 | Arcaia | and I have a second bar for other things ;P |
| 16:02.10 | Ellipsis | Arcaia: no `/~? |
| 16:02.18 | Towbar | but one of my fingers has a 15 degrees bend in teh middle of it |
| 16:02.20 | Arcaia | Nah ;P |
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| 16:02.45 | Arcaia | http://www.randomfew.net/random.public/uiss/WoWScrnShot_100307_131404.jpg |
| 16:02.51 | Arcaia | follow my hotkeys across the bottom |
| 16:03.01 | Arcaia | the keys directly above them are the SHIFT+ keys |
| 16:03.27 | Arcaia | [ignore the stats, brewfest gears] |
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| 16:04.17 | Arcaia | http://www.randomfew.net/random.public/uiss/WoWScrnShot_092907_044121.jpg <- raid UI [unit frame wise, my hotkeys/personal uinit frames have changed] |
| 16:05.04 | Necrathex | Towbar: you forgot CloS |
| 16:05.12 | Necrathex | oh you didn't |
| 16:05.27 | Ellipsis | hrm...I need to redo my keybindings =[ |
| 16:05.34 | Towbar | and you said my raid UI was messy... |
| 16:06.16 | Necrathex | Arcaia: i have that too, with CTRL |
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| 16:06.35 | Necrathex | normal abilities have numbers, finishers above it with ctrl |
| 16:06.37 | Arcaia | haha thats a 40 person AV |
| 16:06.39 | cryogen | <3 the way flexbar handles modifiers |
| 16:06.41 | Arcaia | you can't get it cleaner ;P |
| 16:06.49 | Towbar | yes you can, use grid |
| 16:06.53 | Arcaia | for Kara/25man content its super nice |
| 16:06.59 | Arcaia | Grid is too bulky |
| 16:07.03 | Towbar | ! |
| 16:07.08 | Arcaia | it takes up too much space on one side ;P |
| 16:07.08 | Paene | agreed |
| 16:07.10 | Arcaia | it is a grid. |
| 16:07.14 | Towbar | grid is WAY less space than those raid frames |
| 16:07.15 | Arcaia | pitbull can be stacked |
| 16:07.23 | Arcaia | you have to realize |
| 16:07.29 | Arcaia | that's 40 people, only used in PVP ;P |
| 16:07.38 | Arcaia | and most of the time I have them turned off for PVP ;P |
| 16:07.54 | Towbar | and why do you need to see so much info as a dps class in AV? |
| 16:08.01 | cncfanatics | cryogen, how so ? |
| 16:08.02 | Arcaia | I don't |
| 16:08.05 | the-golem | Grid? |
| 16:08.05 | cncfanatics | u mean shift & stuff ? |
| 16:08.08 | Arcaia | I was showing them for screenshot purposes ;P |
| 16:08.29 | the-golem | oh i see |
| 16:08.34 | Arcaia | that and I did like 12k damage with an engineering grenade, and was screenshotting the combat log ;P |
| 16:09.11 | Paene | holy...58.1mb of memory usage |
| 16:09.46 | Paene | I rarely get that high, only when I forget to nuke SWS |
| 16:09.51 | Paene | 's data |
| 16:09.52 | Marli | 58.1 is a lot, if you have 256MB of ram |
| 16:09.53 | Marli | :)))))))) |
| 16:09.53 | cryogen | cncfanatics: ya |
| 16:09.58 | Nandini | Xinhuan: just curious what path you generate for gathering Silverleaf in Tirisfal Glades :) |
| 16:10.03 | cncfanatics | cryogen, remaps on shift, alt & ctrl are fancy eh ? :) |
| 16:10.11 | cryogen | ya |
| 16:10.13 | cryogen | automagical, too! |
| 16:10.20 | Xinhuan | i don't have any tirisfal data |
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| 16:10.33 | cryogen | i would like to be able to do the same kind of remapping if i have a key bound to alt-something |
| 16:10.33 | cncfanatics | cryogen, automagical = win |
| 16:10.34 | Xinhuan | i didn't datamine from wowhead |
| 16:10.36 | cryogen | can i? |
| 16:10.41 | cncfanatics | cryogen, it doesn't ? |
| 16:10.47 | cryogen | sort of.. |
| 16:10.51 | cncfanatics | explain |
| 16:10.54 | cryogen | say i bind a button to alt-q |
| 16:10.56 | Arcaia | you also have to realize Towbar my rogue is retired from Raiding ;P |
| 16:11.02 | Arcaia | so I rarely see a raid anymore ;P |
| 16:11.03 | cryogen | if i hit alt-q the ability triggers, win. |
| 16:11.04 | CIA-12 | 03pettigrow * r51043 10BigWigs/BlackTemple/Shahraz.lua: BigWigs: Shahraz: frFR Update |
| 16:11.09 | Nandini | Xinhuan: i assume most people interested in using your addon will be using mined data |
| 16:11.15 | cryogen | if i hit shift-q i want to be able to use the same button slot |
| 16:11.18 | Xinhuan | yah |
| 16:11.25 | cncfanatics | cryogen, u'd have to use alt-shift-q |
| 16:11.27 | Xinhuan | but it will work on any data, datamined or not |
| 16:11.28 | cryogen | but it seems to depend on my hitting alt-shift-q |
| 16:11.32 | cncfanatics | thats keybindings |
| 16:11.35 | cryogen | but even then kinda gets confused and doesnt quite work |
| 16:11.41 | Nandini | Yes, but perhaps a more realistic testing scenario would include a mined data set |
| 16:11.44 | cncfanatics | it doesn't cryogen ? :o |
| 16:11.52 | cryogen | can i remap it to work the way i want or is it just not possible? |
| 16:11.54 | cncfanatics | what happens with shift-alt-q ?? |
| 16:11.57 | Xinhuan | Grum uses wowhead datamined data on his computer |
| 16:11.59 | cryogen | cncfanatics: didnt look into it too much because thats not what i wanted |
| 16:12.00 | Xinhuan | and he has no issues |
| 16:12.07 | Towbar | arcaia do you use any addon for applying poisons? |
| 16:12.11 | cncfanatics | cryogen, make a button with the Q binding, leave it empty for Q, but put stuff on it for alt & shift ? |
| 16:12.15 | Xinhuan | so i'm testing data on my end that isn't datamined |
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| 16:12.29 | Xinhuan | will be adding some function that adds "1 node" to an existing path soon |
| 16:12.31 | cryogen | cncfanatics: i want to retain the in game function for Q :) |
| 16:12.34 | Arcaia | autobar ;P |
| 16:12.39 | Arcaia | and i keep hemlock for making them |
| 16:12.50 | Arcaia | autobar = right click is offhand, left click is mainhand |
| 16:12.54 | cncfanatics | cryogen, then u can't |
| 16:12.58 | cryogen | :( |
| 16:13.04 | cryogen | another bar it is! |
| 16:13.04 | Paene | Arcaia: lol, I like how someone asked what level Galv is in your chat log :) |
| 16:13.07 | Towbar | hemlock is v nice, love it |
| 16:13.07 | Nandini | Xinhuan: I'm thinking now that centroids may not be useful for pathing after all. It would be great if you only want to observe nodes, but since each of them might potentially be visited, I'm not sure it would save ppl time. |
| 16:13.08 | cncfanatics | cld u check if alt-shift-Q works ? |
| 16:13.12 | cryogen | yeah when i get in |
| 16:13.15 | cncfanatics | for when its bound to alt-Q |
| 16:13.18 | cncfanatics | it should, in theory |
| 16:13.18 | Arcaia | Paene: welcome to Ruin battlegroup. |
| 16:13.28 | ulic | I just use macros fo applying poisons, left and right clicks just like Arcaia |
| 16:13.33 | Towbar | what is autobar? |
| 16:13.36 | Arcaia | Paene: on AV weekend anyways. |
| 16:13.36 | Xinhuan | centroids is just a path approximation |
| 16:13.37 | Paene | Arcaia: Sorry to hear that :-/ |
| 16:13.45 | Xinhuan | humans must still be smart enough obviously |
| 16:13.46 | Towbar | i want as few action bar buttons as possible now |
| 16:13.51 | Xinhuan | to cut corners and etc |
| 16:14.24 | Marli | Anyone got a SS of BigWigs_TabletBars |
| 16:14.39 | Arcaia | Autobar if you take the time to configure it can do just as much as you want. |
| 16:14.49 | Arcaia | Towbar -> you can also do hidden actionbars -> Geist |
| 16:15.08 | Paene | I use Autobar, it's nice but it can be buggy sometimes |
| 16:15.09 | Nandini | I use hidden action bars for my druid shapeshift macros. |
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| 16:15.24 | cryogen | Towbar: autobar in its most basic form gives you buttons for food/drink/potions, and selects the best one to use if you have multiple |
| 16:15.32 | cryogen | you can customise it to do all sorts of crap though |
| 16:15.40 | Arcaia | http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info4766-Geist.html |
| 16:15.58 | Arcaia | Autobar when you set it up For WHAT YOU ACTUALLY NEED is amazing. |
| 16:16.02 | Arcaia | Otherwise it's bulky. |
| 16:16.04 | cncfanatics | cryogen, actualy autobar could be made as a flexbar addon :p that'd be fancy |
| 16:16.11 | cryogen | :) |
| 16:16.31 | cryogen | youve made me want the buff duration thing, but i cant quite figure out how id do it :p |
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| 16:16.46 | cncfanatics | cryogen, not too hard |
| 16:17.03 | cncfanatics | ok |
| 16:17.04 | Ascalia | hi |
| 16:17.05 | cncfanatics | lemme explain |
| 16:17.08 | cryogen | i know how to get the information |
| 16:17.12 | cryogen | i know how to make a textsub for it |
| 16:17.18 | cryogen | the missing bit is how to get it on a button |
| 16:17.23 | cncfanatics | ah |
| 16:17.27 | cncfanatics | well, just use the textsub ? |
| 16:17.33 | cncfanatics | supose u called the textsub dur |
| 16:17.46 | CIA-12 | 03pettigrow * r51044 10BigWigs/BlackTemple/Shahraz.lua: BigWigs: Shahraz: frFR Update (again) |
| 16:17.48 | cncfanatics | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:17.59 | cncfanatics | that func is in the slashcommand ref |
| 16:18.16 | cncfanatics | http://wowace.com/wiki/FlexBar2_slash_command_reference#Text_substition_commands |
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| 16:19.24 | cryogen | cncfanatics: what i dont get is how to make my "dur" available |
| 16:19.28 | cryogen | ie, where do i put the code :) |
| 16:19.31 | Ascalia | Question: How is it possible to properly use DAILY_QUEST_TAG_TEMPLATE for Quests with questTag == nil (Its displayed as Daily %s) ? |
| 16:19.56 | Ascalia | any ideas? |
| 16:20.05 | Ellipsis | WTB more context for that question x.x |
| 16:20.08 | cncfanatics | cryogen, just call it, whenever |
| 16:20.11 | cncfanatics | in ur own addon if you want |
| 16:20.32 | cncfanatics | didn't check how Action/TextSubs.lua registers its subs ? |
| 16:20.39 | Xinhuan | format(DAILY_QUEST_TAG_TEMPLATE, questTag or "") |
| 16:20.45 | Xinhuan | format(DAILY_QUEST_TAG_TEMPLATE, questTag or ""):trim() |
| 16:20.58 | Ascalia | first one won't work, right? |
| 16:21.09 | Xinhuan | DAILY_QUEST_TAG_TEMPLATE:format(questTag or ""):trim() |
| 16:21.09 | Ascalia | then I get a nil error ^^ |
| 16:21.19 | Ascalia | thanks, will test this |
| 16:21.20 | Xinhuan | well if questtag is nil, you use "" instead |
| 16:21.24 | Xinhuan | then you trim the spaces |
| 16:21.26 | cryogen | ah |
| 16:21.28 | cryogen | i think i get it |
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| 16:21.33 | Arcaia | whats the best quest log type addon? BEQL is getting annoying |
| 16:21.44 | cryogen | but! how do i get the ability on the button? |
| 16:22.00 | cryogen | ah, the button is passed to the sub? |
| 16:22.23 | cryogen | yeah it is |
| 16:22.23 | cryogen | ok |
| 16:22.26 | cryogen | i get it now |
| 16:23.03 | clad|away | Arcaia: what do you want from the addon? |
| 16:23.13 | clad|away | DoubleWide is by far the simplest, but sexay: :P |
| 16:23.26 | [Liquidor] | How do you make an URL to open up a connection+channel for IRC? |
| 16:23.40 | cryogen | irc://server.irc.net/channel , i think |
| 16:23.41 | clad|away | irc://irc.freenode.net:6667 |
| 16:23.48 | Trell_ | actually; I want a new questlog that gives me more shown than the stupid blizz default one |
| 16:23.50 | clad|away | slash channel normally |
| 16:23.54 | cryogen | the :6667 is redundant there |
| 16:23.56 | Trell_ | keep forgetting to look at them |
| 16:23.58 | clad|away | Trae: DoubleWide |
| 16:24.00 | Marli | How the hell do you move bigwigs bars |
| 16:24.03 | clad|away | cryogen: depends entirely on the system :P |
| 16:24.09 | cryogen | irc:// defaults to 6667 |
| 16:24.11 | Trell_ | i'll check, thanks clad|away |
| 16:24.19 | clad|away | cryogen: on a listening application level :P |
| 16:24.20 | Funkeh` | Marli: Show the anchor, and move that. :) |
| 16:24.25 | [Liquidor] | Marli: Plugins -> Bars -> Show anchor |
| 16:24.26 | clad|away | nothing wrong with making it explicit |
| 16:24.29 | cryogen | on any level that matters :) |
| 16:24.35 | Marli | Thankies |
| 16:24.42 | clad|away | Here is DoubleWide: http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info6887-DoubleWide.html |
| 16:24.44 | [Liquidor] | So what's the url for this channel? |
| 16:24.52 | Trell_ | ah, no Ace one? |
| 16:24.56 | clad|away | irc://irc.freenode.net/#wowace |
| 16:25.04 | clad|away | Trell_: It won't ever need to be updated.. no reason for it to be ace. |
| 16:25.15 | clad|away | Trell_: there's no extensive code, no libraries, no errors, it "just works" |
| 16:26.26 | Funkeh` | clad|away: orly? |
| 16:26.30 | clad|away | I think "The Tome of Divinity" is one of the stoopidest quests I've ever run |
| 16:26.36 | clad|away | Funkeh`: zomg wha? |
| 16:26.46 | Funkeh` | nm ;p |
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| 16:27.45 | cryogen | yay hometime |
| 16:27.51 | Funkeh` | bbl |
| 16:29.11 | Towbar | where does cartographer instance loot get its drop rates from? |
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| 16:29.21 | cncfanatics | cryogen, nearly rdy with ur addon thingy ? |
| 16:29.26 | cncfanatics | Towbar, PT ? |
| 16:29.36 | Towbar | yes but where does it get teh drop chance |
| 16:29.45 | Towbar | wowhead dta or thott etc? |
| 16:30.03 | Towbar | i know it takes the loot from perodic table |
| 16:30.17 | Hjalte | towbar, wowhead. |
| 16:30.52 | Towbar | thanks |
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| 16:34.09 | cncfanatics | cryogen, already gone ? |
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| 16:36.31 | Arcaia | and I just want a questlog that is like BEQL but without the extralong tracker, and that works with lightheaded |
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| 16:40.36 | Nandini | there are a lot of tracker configuration options for BEQL, have you investigated them all? |
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| 16:48.12 | Amadeo | I gave up on the Mage, too boring |
| 16:49.38 | Amadeo | Now I will try Druid again and try to make it to 20 before getting bored |
| 16:50.24 | cncfanatics | I code more then I play tbh |
| 16:50.31 | Industrial | im 36 now |
| 16:50.32 | Industrial | on hunter |
| 16:50.35 | Industrial | 29 shammy |
| 16:50.37 | Industrial | 19 warlock |
| 16:50.38 | Industrial | :P |
| 16:50.50 | cncfanatics | ehm, 70 mage, 70 pala, 26 rogue |
| 16:50.56 | Industrial | T_T |
| 16:51.21 | Amadeo | I was really having fun on a Hunter until I hit about mid-30's, then I was bored |
| 16:51.26 | Amadeo | I think WoW just bores me in general :P |
| 16:51.36 | cncfanatics | wow is fun |
| 16:51.36 | lolinternet | heh |
| 16:51.44 | lolinternet | wait f |
| 16:51.48 | lolinternet | *wait for patch 2.3 |
| 16:51.49 | lolinternet | :X |
| 16:51.49 | NivFreak | hopefully they'll fix 30-58 in 2.3 |
| 16:51.54 | lolinternet | then you'll level faster .X |
| 16:51.56 | lolinternet | :X |
| 16:52.04 | cncfanatics | thats what i'm doing lolinternet |
| 16:52.06 | cncfanatics | my char's sitting |
| 16:52.11 | Amadeo | I'm not sure how that is going to work |
| 16:52.13 | cncfanatics | getting rested :) |
| 16:52.18 | cncfanatics | less xp needed per lvl |
| 16:52.21 | cncfanatics | and more xp from quests |
| 16:52.22 | Amadeo | They said they're reducing grind experience and increasing quest experience |
| 16:52.35 | Arcaia | new feature needed in my Quest addon |
| 16:52.42 | Arcaia | has to be able to move the tracker |
| 16:52.46 | Arcaia | just not epically fail. |
| 16:53.16 | cncfanatics | bah, I hate computing movement |
| 16:53.25 | cncfanatics | I REALLY hate anything that has to do with coordinates ... |
| 16:53.58 | Ellipsis | oh hey look it's Amadeo |
| 16:54.01 | cncfanatics | I do a lot of it though, unfortunatly |
| 16:54.01 | Ellipsis | my favorite person in the world |
| 16:54.04 | Kemayo | Arcaia: You can move QuestsFu's tracker! |
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| 16:54.57 | Amadeo | Ellipsis: I get that a lot |
| 16:54.58 | clad|away | Arcaia: does DoubleWide not work for you? |
| 16:55.35 | Amadeo | hah, DoubleWide |
| 16:55.37 | Amadeo | I have to look that up |
| 16:56.14 | Amadeo | What happened to addon searching on WoWI? |
| 16:56.26 | clad|away | nothing, its the same as always |
| 16:56.38 | Amadeo | Oh nevermind, I forgot I put this addon in Firefox :P |
| 16:56.47 | Amadeo | wasn't it on the left side before though? |
| 16:56.56 | Amadeo | or am I going crazy? |
| 16:57.04 | Kemayo | You're crazy. |
| 16:57.05 | neenee | Hm. For soloing, max Natural Armor or Greater Stamina? |
| 16:57.09 | Amadeo | Kemayo: <3 |
| 16:58.41 | clad|away | neenee: depends on which pet, entirely |
| 16:58.46 | neenee | Boar |
| 17:00.00 | clad|away | they already have +9% armor, +4% hp |
| 17:00.12 | clad|away | so you'll have to base that off what else you don't want for your boar :P |
| 17:00.19 | dylanm | Do you really have to choose? What level are you? |
| 17:00.37 | neenee | I am level 57, my pet is 56 |
| 17:00.48 | Arcaia | doublewide = no moving quest tracker |
| 17:01.12 | neenee | Perhaps get a higher greater stamina to make them more even then |
| 17:01.51 | NightHawkTheSane | imo, sta > armor |
| 17:02.03 | NivFreak | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=2215843304&sid=1 |
| 17:02.04 | NivFreak | win |
| 17:02.04 | NightHawkTheSane | seeing as armor only helps against physical damage |
| 17:02.04 | NivFreak | haha |
| 17:02.40 | neenee | Hm. Ferocious Inspiration or Catlike Reflexes? I mainly solo though, so perhaps Catlike Reflexes |
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| 17:03.00 | cncfanatics | wb cryogen |
| 17:03.26 | Amadeo | Someone name my Tauren Druid |
| 17:03.51 | neenee | Hoofy |
| 17:03.57 | Amadeo | lol |
| 17:03.59 | NightHawkTheSane | i'd still go with ferocious inspiration, but if you're only soloing it's probably more personal preference. (catlike reflexes is the +dodge, yeah?) |
| 17:04.10 | Arcaia | so... any more questlog ideas? |
| 17:05.45 | neenee | If your mod does not have an audible quest complete alert, put that in :) I love that of NQuestLog |
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| 17:06.30 | the-golem | gayness |
| 17:06.49 | cryogen | cncfanatics: check in game <3 |
| 17:06.51 | the-golem | whats the dogtag to get currentHP/totaHP ? |
| 17:07.02 | NightHawkTheSane | the-golem: look on the wiki |
| 17:07.40 | cncfanatics | cryogen, read the docs ? |
| 17:07.40 | cncfanatics | seriously |
| 17:07.40 | the-golem | i did [CurHP]/[MaxHP] .. but that only showed it out of 100 :-/ |
| 17:07.40 | cncfanatics | http://wowace.com/wiki/FlexBar2_slash_command_reference#Attribute_related_commands |
| 17:07.40 | cncfanatics | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:07.53 | NightHawkTheSane | the-golem: once more, read the wiki, and look harder. |
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| 17:08.28 | Nandini | Acadia: if you have simpleminimap installed, you can use that to move the quest tracker, too |
| 17:08.43 | cryogen | cncfanatics: i think you misunderstood me |
| 17:08.47 | cryogen | i got that part jus fine |
| 17:08.51 | cryogen | (i did read the doc) |
| 17:08.53 | Nandini | umm Arcaia I mean |
| 17:09.00 | cncfanatics | what u mean then ? |
| 17:09.10 | cryogen | cncfanatics: what im after is like with blizz default bars you get shapeshift buttons |
| 17:09.13 | cryogen | one for each "stance" |
| 17:09.26 | cryogen | ie a button to switch me to bear form(and out again) |
| 17:09.42 | the-golem | NightHawkTheSane: yeah i saw you the first fucking tim |
| 17:09.43 | the-golem | e |
| 17:09.46 | cncfanatics | oh |
| 17:09.49 | cncfanatics | nope there isn't |
| 17:09.55 | cncfanatics | shld make modules that set up that kind of stuff rly |
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| 17:09.57 | cryogen | also i made "moo" appear on all my buttons! |
| 17:10.03 | the-golem | excuse my for finishing what i was typing |
| 17:10.04 | cncfanatics | lol |
| 17:10.17 | cryogen | (my buffdur textsub ftw!) |
| 17:10.17 | cncfanatics | cryogen, after one little code change modules will be able to create "unmanaged" buttons |
| 17:10.24 | cncfanatics | which is buttons that aren't saved through sessions |
| 17:10.40 | cncfanatics | then ppl can make modules for that kind of stuff |
| 17:10.58 | cryogen | i can emulate it by creating the buttons i guess |
| 17:11.21 | cncfanatics | cryogen |
| 17:11.28 | cncfanatics | please commit ur buffdur module somewhere |
| 17:11.45 | cryogen | it doesnt do anything atm |
| 17:11.51 | cryogen | but ye i will pastey it |
| 17:11.53 | Paene | Anyone here play a mage as their main? |
| 17:12.13 | cncfanatics | cryogen, just commit it as FlexBar2_BuffDur when its done |
| 17:12.23 | Kalman| | Paene: Not anymore, but for a while. Why? |
| 17:12.31 | Paene | Ever use Cryolysis? |
| 17:12.32 | cryogen | dont have teh access |
| 17:12.36 | Arcaia | >.> |
| 17:12.39 | Arcaia | who is acadia? |
| 17:12.41 | Kalman| | I did not. |
| 17:12.42 | cryogen | Ellipsis: /attack doesnt exist :p |
| 17:12.58 | Paene | ah ok |
| 17:13.08 | cncfanatics | cryogen, request it ? :p |
| 17:13.13 | Stanzilla2 | Arcaia: my main is called Arcádia |
| 17:13.18 | Arcaia | ahh |
| 17:13.19 | cryogen | i could.. |
| 17:13.25 | Arcaia | so moving quest tracker >.> |
| 17:13.46 | cryogen | should probably wait a few days tho, i probably pissed Kaelten off some last night :p |
| 17:14.08 | Nandini | Arcaia: if you use simple minimap, enable the "movers" module, you can then move the quest log (and also pvp capture bar, and quest timer, and durability frame) |
| 17:14.12 | the-golem | anyway |
| 17:14.16 | cryogen | cncfanatics: also can you point me at the code that does the green hilight? |
| 17:14.17 | Kaelten | ? |
| 17:14.17 | the-golem | according to teh tags on the wiki |
| 17:14.28 | the-golem | [CurHP]/[MaxHP] should work |
| 17:14.34 | cncfanatics | cryogen, sec |
| 17:14.46 | cncfanatics | cryogen, ask Kaelten now :p seems he's here :) |
| 17:15.13 | cryogen | Kaelten: pretty please with sugar on top "givf dev account plix" |
| 17:15.18 | cncfanatics | cryogen, Highlighting/Highlighting.lua line 368 to 378 |
| 17:15.40 | Kalman| | the-golem: Look down three lines. |
| 17:15.57 | Kaelten | cryogen: just send me an email to the google group |
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| 17:15.59 | Paene | Any way to retrieve a lost SVN password? :D |
| 17:16.48 | Kaelten | email me and I can reset it |
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| 17:17.28 | the-golem | Kalman|: yes i see that. FractionalHP and SureHP are just short versions of the same thing |
| 17:17.36 | Kalman| | Did you try them? |
| 17:18.03 | Paene | here's a better question...what was my username lol |
| 17:18.06 | the-golem | no, too busy reading ^^ |
| 17:18.07 | Paene | it may have gotten removed |
| 17:18.30 | Arcaia | simpleminimap broke squeenix ;P |
| 17:18.37 | Arcaia | >.> |
| 17:19.17 | Nandini | you should not try to use 2 minimap addons at the same time, results could be... hmm... "unpredictable" :) |
| 17:19.27 | NeoTron | last night, at Kael'thas, we found the weapon mojo |
| 17:19.41 | NeoTron | had 5-15s left until phase 3 when the last wpn died |
| 17:19.59 | NeoTron | unfortunately our phase 3 and 4 mojo isn't quite there yet |
| 17:21.25 | Arcaia | squeenix > all |
| 17:21.33 | cncfanatics | fb > all |
| 17:21.36 | Arcaia | and quest tracker location changing should be easier. |
| 17:22.00 | pb_ee1 | hey all |
| 17:23.06 | Nandini | Arcaia: nothing is easy the first time |
| 17:23.29 | Nandini | (i did find it to be pretty intuitive tho) |
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| 17:25.22 | CIA-12 | 03shadowed * r51045 10!Scrooge/Scrooge.lua: !Scrooge: Another fix (NEXT) |
| 17:25.59 | Marli | I need a mod that deletes Soul Shards when I have a certain amount of them |
| 17:26.00 | Marli | Suggestions? |
| 17:26.31 | rob` | I use one, let me check what it's called |
| 17:26.38 | Marli | Thanks friend |
| 17:26.48 | CIA-12 | 03shadowed * r51046 10!Scrooge/Scrooge.lua: !Scrooge: Oops, forgot suppose to return a name not number |
| 17:26.54 | rob` | shardstatus, i think |
| 17:27.02 | Marli | Is it Ace? :) |
| 17:27.06 | rob` | of course |
| 17:27.16 | Marli | Good job pal! |
| 17:27.20 | cryogen | Kaelten: request sent, enjoy |
| 17:27.26 | Kaelten | kk |
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| 17:27.43 | Ellipsis | Marli: I use eeShards for that |
| 17:27.54 | rob` | yep, shardstatus is it |
| 17:27.55 | Ellipsis | it's quite simple and convenient, and yes, it's Ace :P |
| 17:28.08 | rob` | hm, that'd also work :D |
| 17:28.19 | rob` | and eeshards has been updated recently |
| 17:28.42 | Marli | But is it better than Shardstatus |
| 17:28.43 | Marli | ,_, |
| 17:28.54 | rob` | no idea, i'm trying it out |
| 17:29.01 | baer_ | is there a way to fire up "violation" in boss encounters, only? |
| 17:29.27 | thgjerde | where can i find the localized strings for talents? |
| 17:29.36 | rob` | one thing that bugs me about shardstatus is that it puts an icon on the screen of all my characters :( |
| 17:29.45 | cryogen | note to self: lua is not C |
| 17:31.22 | NivFreak | so I'm guessing there are some macro junkies in here |
| 17:31.31 | NivFreak | does anyone know a way to check if my target's target is me? |
| 17:31.36 | NivFreak | as a conditional |
| 17:31.47 | CIA-12 | 03stan * r51047 10simpleMinimap/localizations.lua: |
| 17:31.47 | CIA-12 | simpleMinimap: |
| 17:31.47 | CIA-12 | - deDe fix |
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| 17:32.28 | Nandini | does [targettarget=player] work? |
| 17:32.45 | NivFreak | It seems like I tried that before |
| 17:32.49 | NivFreak | it it didn't |
| 17:32.51 | Xinhuan | no |
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| 17:32.55 | Xinhuan | it doesn't |
| 17:32.56 | Ellipsis | I would think not |
| 17:32.57 | NightHawkTheSane | I don't think there's anyway to check -what- your target is in a specific sense, the [target=foo] conditional simply ASSIGNS your target |
| 17:32.59 | Xinhuan | what are you trying to do? |
| 17:33.03 | Ellipsis | that'd make taunt macros too easy |
| 17:33.23 | NivFreak | Xinhuan: I have a charge/intercept/intervene macro that does the right thing 98% of the time |
| 17:33.35 | NivFreak | the only time it fails, is when I take a knockback and he doesn't retarget |
| 17:33.39 | NightHawkTheSane | i think the best you can do is check to see if your target exists, is friendly, is hostile, or is dead |
| 17:33.43 | NivFreak | it tries to intervene on me |
| 17:33.43 | NivFreak | hehe |
| 17:34.05 | Xinhuan | ^ |
| 17:34.21 | NivFreak | there's only a couple of encounters where that has even happened |
| 17:34.26 | NivFreak | but I like to fix things :) |
| 17:34.43 | NightHawkTheSane | in fact, i'm fairly certain that the macro syntax was designed explicitly to prevent what you want to accomplish. |
| 17:34.52 | Ellipsis | like I said... :P |
| 17:35.41 | NivFreak | I just dislike having 2 modifiers on one key |
| 17:35.42 | NivFreak | hehe |
| 17:36.00 | NivFreak | I get around it now just fine by having a [modifier] Intercept |
| 17:36.19 | NivFreak | It's just a stupid mechanic imho |
| 17:36.23 | NivFreak | just like stances |
| 17:36.31 | NightHawkTheSane | nah, its not stupid, you just need to be less lazy. |
| 17:36.33 | NivFreak | I understand the need to dump rage, but why make me manually change? |
| 17:36.56 | neenee | Hm. I have BagginsAnywhereBags installed, but how do I show the bags of another character? |
| 17:37.09 | NivFreak | NightHawkTheSane: I plenty of better things to focus on when this matters :) |
| 17:37.13 | NivFreak | I have evne |
| 17:37.19 | NivFreak | I need more coffee |
| 17:37.30 | Ellipsis | someone really needs to write a UI that is just the world frame and then a giant indicator displaying what key you need to push at that given time |
| 17:37.31 | NightHawkTheSane | i'm sure you do, but the fact remains that it isn't stupid just because you don't like it. :P |
| 17:37.48 | Ellipsis | that takes all possible factors into account and makes the decisions for you, but obviously only displays the result |
| 17:37.54 | NightHawkTheSane | neenee: it's in the baggins menu |
| 17:38.00 | neenee | Hm. Let me check again then |
| 17:38.04 | NightHawkTheSane | you can't open a window, it's just a drop-down menu with the items. |
| 17:38.07 | NightHawkTheSane | a little lame, but meh. |
| 17:38.15 | the-golem | umm |
| 17:38.26 | neenee | Ah yes, found it |
| 17:38.27 | the-golem | wierd |
| 17:38.33 | neenee | That's indeed not what I had expected |
| 17:38.38 | the-golem | if you can assign targets, you should be able to check targets too |
| 17:39.09 | Ellipsis | assigning target is just a shortcut |
| 17:39.23 | Ellipsis | checking targets is letting the computer analyze combat info for you to make a decision/take an action |
| 17:39.33 | the-golem | one "=" is assignment, two "==" is checking |
| 17:39.45 | Ellipsis | ... |
| 17:39.57 | NightHawkTheSane | ... |
| 17:40.00 | the-golem | shhhhhhh |
| 17:40.02 | Marli | ... |
| 17:40.04 | miyakeke | ... |
| 17:40.08 | the-golem | im rambling outlound lemme alone ^^ |
| 17:40.10 | neenee | Woo. Almost halfway to getting the Brewfast ram |
| 17:40.10 | the-golem | outloud |
| 17:40.16 | NightHawkTheSane | neenee: awesome. |
| 17:40.21 | neenee | =] |
| 17:40.33 | NightHawkTheSane | how do you get tickets aside from the two dailies? |
| 17:40.45 | neenee | Only one daily on European servers that I know :| |
| 17:40.51 | Sirow | oh yeah, I know there was something, brewfest. Gonna skip coding and start drinking now :> |
| 17:40.53 | neenee | Only the ram riding to get kegs |
| 17:41.03 | neenee | The rest is disabled/broken |
| 17:41.06 | NightHawkTheSane | ahh |
| 17:41.08 | miyakeke | ram racing is pretty easy if you use the apples tbqh <3 |
| 17:41.24 | neenee | Yup, it's not difficult, but not very fast eitehr |
| 17:41.25 | Trell_ | 10 barrels is still my highest; nearly had 11 today |
| 17:41.27 | NightHawkTheSane | yeah, i've heard the Barking quest is broken, although I have yet to have a problem with it |
| 17:41.40 | neenee | I had 32 tickets |
| 17:41.45 | neenee | today |
| 17:41.55 | neenee | broken, but you can do it anyway? |
| 17:41.59 | Trell_ | from delivering barrels? |
| 17:42.02 | neenee | Yes Trell |
| 17:42.08 | Trell_ | isn't it 2 tickets a barrel? |
| 17:42.10 | Sirow | I allready have my googles |
| 17:42.13 | NightHawkTheSane | 3 tickets/barrel |
| 17:42.26 | neenee | I want the ram first |
| 17:42.30 | neenee | The goggles are a bonus |
| 17:42.31 | Trell_ | so how did you get 32, neenee? |
| 17:42.37 | Trell_ | if its 3 per barrel |
| 17:42.42 | neenee | Trell_, I am not sure. Perhaps I had 2 left from before |
| 17:42.48 | NightHawkTheSane | probably |
| 17:42.55 | neenee | I think the 2->3 was a hotfix somewhere |
| 17:42.57 | Trell_ | ah, so 10 barrels; same as me |
| 17:42.58 | neenee | Hm |
| 17:43.03 | neenee | yup I think so :) |
| 17:43.06 | Trell_ | Im sure I could push 12 out of it |
| 17:43.11 | neenee | I don't go by the far-away barrel though |
| 17:43.16 | Trell_ | ah I do |
| 17:43.21 | Trell_ | loop round the end one |
| 17:43.22 | NightHawkTheSane | Yeah, I -think- i remember them giving 2/barrel on wednesday, but thursday they seemed to give 3/barrel |
| 17:43.24 | Trell_ | enables a constant gallop |
| 17:43.26 | neenee | I turn back far from the barrel-thrower, much faster |
| 17:43.46 | neenee | Anyway, more than ten days should be plenty |
| 17:44.04 | Trell_ | yeah im so getting the ram first |
| 17:44.08 | neenee | And if they enable the other things, easy :) |
| 17:44.08 | Trell_ | then maybe the keg |
| 17:44.19 | Trell_ | shame they disabled the dark iron event |
| 17:44.22 | neenee | Too bad lots of Horde will be having the ram too :| makes it less desirable |
| 17:44.24 | Trell_ | people had the ram from day 1 with that |
| 17:44.38 | neenee | Yes, that's no good |
| 17:44.39 | NightHawkTheSane | the googles are the win. :P |
| 17:44.42 | NightHawkTheSane | er, goggles |
| 17:44.45 | neenee | *goggles |
| 17:45.07 | Sirow | Beeing a dwarf I can only say RAMS suck |
| 17:45.07 | neenee | :) |
| 17:45.14 | neenee | I'm a Dwarf and I love rams |
| 17:45.20 | miyakeke | i think any alliance can say rams suck |
| 17:45.26 | Trell_ | im NE and have the pvp ram |
| 17:45.27 | neenee | They look very sturdy :) |
| 17:45.28 | Trell_ | <3 |
| 17:45.28 | cncfanatics | raptor > all |
| 17:45.29 | NightHawkTheSane | I just like a varied collection of mounts |
| 17:45.29 | miyakeke | i'd much rather a wolf over a ram :/ |
| 17:45.36 | Trell_ | although I want the heroic sethekk mount |
| 17:45.37 | neenee | Raptors are flimsy too |
| 17:45.53 | Sirow | Trell: me too :> |
| 17:46.12 | miyakeke | hmm the raven is pretty hawt |
| 17:46.13 | NightHawkTheSane | <3 my wolf |
| 17:46.16 | Trell_ | however, to be fair, I can never be arsed to run 5 mans anymore, so I've only tried for it three times. |
| 17:46.44 | miyakeke | i don't appreciate the fact that you have to take a druid :( |
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| 17:47.41 | Sirow | Do I have to restart wow when doing toc changes? |
| 17:48.02 | Ellipsis | nope |
| 17:48.24 | Ellipsis | unless you are loading a new file that was created since last WoW restart :P |
| 17:49.15 | Sirow | Ok find my problem, I should LOAD Grid when I want to acces GridStatus, self pwned |
| 17:50.00 | CIA-12 | 03stan * r51048 10simpleMinimap/localizations.lua: |
| 17:50.01 | CIA-12 | simpleMinimap: |
| 17:50.01 | CIA-12 | - deDe Update |
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| 17:50.41 | cryogen | cncfanatics: hmm this is strange |
| 17:50.53 | neenee | woo, they fixed the barking here too :) |
| 17:50.53 | cryogen | it works if i do /fb settext blahblah but when i /rl it doesnt |
| 17:51.03 | cncfanatics | hmmm ? it doesn't ? |
| 17:51.05 | cncfanatics | lemme see |
| 17:51.43 | cryogen | http://ace.pastey.net/74889 |
| 17:52.03 | neenee | But they turned it into 1 daily by barking instead of 2 |
| 17:52.09 | cryogen | first setup i get "hi", when i /rl i get the icon text |
| 17:52.22 | cncfanatics | lemme try |
| 17:52.25 | cncfanatics | ur buffdur thingy works right ? |
| 17:52.28 | Fisker- | http://forums.wow-europe.com/thread.html?topicId=1153075616&pageNo=1&sid=1#15 |
| 17:52.31 | cryogen | yup |
| 17:52.32 | Fisker- | issuntril fights back :D |
| 17:52.39 | cryogen | i just put it at the button of TextSubs.lua for now |
| 17:52.44 | NightHawkTheSane | neenee: you mean you can't do barking for both trolls and orcs? yeah, that kinda just makes sense, though |
| 17:52.59 | neenee | :) |
| 17:53.04 | cncfanatics | cryogen, shld be standalone rly :p |
| 17:53.09 | cryogen | it will be |
| 17:53.11 | neenee | Oh, I'm Alliance :P But indeed, that does make sense ;) |
| 17:53.11 | cryogen | when it works |
| 17:53.14 | neenee | I'll try the other one tomorrow |
| 17:53.20 | cryogen | its a copy and paste job at best :) |
| 17:53.40 | cncfanatics | works for me |
| 17:53.47 | cncfanatics | "test" is still on field one |
| 17:53.47 | cryogen | even after /rl? |
| 17:53.55 | cncfanatics | yea, I just rl'd |
| 17:54.01 | cncfanatics | what rev u using |
| 17:54.03 | cncfanatics | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:54.12 | cryogen | nil |
| 17:54.14 | cryogen | lol |
| 17:54.18 | Ellipsis | XD |
| 17:54.41 | cryogen | cncfanatics: everything works apart from the UnitHasBuff check btw |
| 17:54.57 | cncfanatics | hmmm |
| 17:55.04 | cncfanatics | zips work differenrly then svn checkouts for the rev string ? |
| 17:55.16 | cncfanatics | http://wowace.com/wiki/FlexBar2_slash_command_reference#Attribute_related_commands |
| 17:55.17 | cncfanatics | ups |
| 17:55.23 | cncfanatics | FlexBar2.Rev = tonumber(string.match("$Rev: 50695 $", "^$Rev: (.*) $$")); |
| 17:55.32 | cncfanatics | does it do $Revision in zips or what ? |
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| 17:55.46 | cryogen | it should |
| 17:55.59 | CIA-12 | 03stan * r51049 10simpleMinimap/localizations.lua: |
| 17:55.59 | CIA-12 | simpleMinimap: |
| 17:55.59 | CIA-12 | - deDe fix |
| 17:56.06 | cryogen | it's $Revision: $ though |
| 17:56.11 | cncfanatics | FlexBar2.Rev = tonumber(string.match("$Rev: 50695 $", "^$Rev: 50695 $$")); in the zip |
| 17:56.15 | cncfanatics | cryogen, its autochanged by svn |
| 17:56.17 | cncfanatics | I know whats ip |
| 17:56.19 | cncfanatics | up* |
| 17:56.22 | cryogen | ah |
| 17:56.22 | cncfanatics | but got no idea how to prevent it :p |
| 17:56.27 | cryogen | heh |
| 17:56.44 | cncfanatics | its thinking its a version string |
| 17:56.46 | cncfanatics | I changed it |
| 17:56.53 | cncfanatics | either way, any lua errors ? |
| 17:56.57 | cryogen | nop |
| 17:57.15 | cryogen | is it because of the hackish way i get a reference to LibSpecialEvents-Aura? |
| 17:57.23 | cncfanatics | aah, ur text sub ain't working ? |
| 17:57.27 | cncfanatics | I get it |
| 17:57.36 | cncfanatics | ur registering it after FB did initial textsubs sets |
| 17:57.39 | cncfanatics | as a result |
| 17:57.47 | cncfanatics | it already ignored them |
| 17:57.50 | cncfanatics | cuz they don't exist |
| 17:57.56 | cryogen | but it shows |
| 17:58.00 | cryogen | it just shows the wrong thing |
| 17:58.05 | cncfanatics | what does it show then ? |
| 17:58.12 | cryogen | in the example i gave |
| 17:58.19 | cryogen | it shows icon, instead of "hi" like id expect |
| 17:58.30 | cncfanatics | return Icon;Â ? |
| 17:58.35 | cryogen | y |
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| 17:58.56 | cncfanatics | Aura:UnitHasBuff only works after LibSpecialEvents-Aura inited |
| 17:59.19 | cncfanatics | what event does it trigger again |
| 17:59.19 | cncfanatics | sec |
| 17:59.44 | cncfanatics | self:AddEventListener("LibRockEvent-1.0", "FullyInitialized", InitHighlights); |
| 17:59.47 | cncfanatics | thats the code I use |
| 17:59.52 | cncfanatics | register ur text sub on that event |
| 18:00.16 | cncfanatics | if a text sub gets registered on the fly with FB it'll try to update all the buttons with said sub on them anyway so its np u register it late |
| 18:00.23 | cncfanatics | now i'm gonna eat |
| 18:00.29 | cryogen | ill give it a whirl |
| 18:05.01 | Paene | so...who wants to help me out with some SVN issues? :D |
| 18:05.44 | Paene | "Merge request failed on '/wowace/trunk' |
| 18:05.58 | Paene | 'pre-commint' hook failed with error output: |
| 18:06.21 | Paene | and then it lists all the lua, txt, and xml files and says scn:eol-style is not set |
| 18:06.53 | Paene | but I know it is :) I just copied and pasted the stuff from the SVN tutorial into the svn config file |
| 18:07.08 | Paene | all my images and such uploaded fine |
| 18:08.36 | CIA-12 | 03egingell * r51050 10XRayVision/ (XRayVision.lua XRayVision.toc): |
| 18:08.36 | CIA-12 | XRayVision: |
| 18:08.36 | CIA-12 | - Now works with the Key Chain |
| 18:08.36 | CIA-12 | - Now works with all Bank Bags |
| 18:08.36 | CIA-12 | - Now works with Lua 5.x |
| 18:08.37 | CIA-12 | - Now works with WoW 2.2.x |
| 18:08.39 | NightHawkTheSane | images don't need an eol-style :P |
| 18:08.52 | Paene | true |
| 18:08.52 | Paene | lol |
| 18:08.54 | CIA-12 | 03hegarol * r51051 10AtlasLoot_OldInstances/original.en.lua: |
| 18:08.54 | CIA-12 | AtlasLoot_OldInstances: |
| 18:08.54 | CIA-12 | - Two missing jewelcrafting designs |
| 18:08.55 | Paene | just noticed that |
| 18:09.10 | NightHawkTheSane | Did you actually SET the properties on the files? |
| 18:09.22 | Paene | I setup the autoprops |
| 18:09.27 | Paene | like the tutorial says |
| 18:09.44 | Paene | I've never used svn and barely used cvs |
| 18:09.56 | NightHawkTheSane | well, cvs doesn't matter, it's really nothing like svn |
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| 18:10.47 | NightHawkTheSane | thing is, auto-props only apply to files that you're adding via "add" or "import" |
| 18:10.53 | Paene | right |
| 18:10.56 | Paene | I just tried to import |
| 18:10.59 | Paene | and it failed |
| 18:11.21 | Xinhuan | maybe, just maybe check your settings files again :) |
| 18:11.25 | CIA-12 | 03stan * r51052 10simpleMinimap/modules/ (7 files): |
| 18:11.25 | CIA-12 | simpleMinimap: |
| 18:11.25 | CIA-12 | - case insensitivity ftw! -.- |
| 18:11.33 | NightHawkTheSane | okay, well then my best guess is that you probably borked up the property definition somewhere. :P |
| 18:11.37 | Xinhuan | there are sometimes multiple lines that list the same extension |
| 18:12.07 | Xinhuan | and you need to turn on auto-props by remove the # comment tag on one of the lines above the auto-props section |
| 18:12.21 | Paene | well |
| 18:12.27 | Industrial | :D! http://i24.tinypic.com/30l33a0.jpg |
| 18:12.33 | Paene | when I initially installed tortoisesvn |
| 18:12.40 | Paene | the config file was empty |
| 18:12.46 | Xinhuan | it shouldn't be empty |
| 18:12.47 | Paene | so I googled an svn config file |
| 18:12.50 | NightHawkTheSane | I've not used auto-props with tortoisesvn, only the cli interface, so i don't precisely remember how it works there |
| 18:12.50 | Xinhuan | it comes with a default one |
| 18:12.53 | cncfanatics | cryogen, got ur module right ? |
| 18:13.23 | Paene | Anyone able to send me one that should work? |
| 18:13.24 | CIA-12 | 03sylvanaar 07sylvanaar * r51053 10Prat/Talented/WOWClipper/ (Program.cs.txt WOWClipper.csproj.txt): Talented: Updates to the clipboard xfer tool. |
| 18:13.50 | Xinhuan | right click and choose SVN properties ---> General --> Subversion --> Edit button (SVN config file) |
| 18:13.55 | Xinhuan | that's the file you're supposed to edit |
| 18:13.58 | Paene | yep |
| 18:14.03 | Paene | it was empty after install |
| 18:14.07 | Paene | I tried un-installing |
| 18:14.11 | Paene | and then installing again |
| 18:14.13 | Paene | same thing |
| 18:14.18 | Xinhuan | i'll pastey a file |
| 18:14.20 | Paene | kk |
| 18:14.28 | Paene | thanks btw :) |
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| 18:14.47 | NightHawkTheSane | yeah, it being empty is a definite problem |
| 18:14.49 | NightHawkTheSane | :P |
| 18:14.51 | Paene | well |
| 18:14.53 | Xinhuan | http://ace.pastey.net/74891 |
| 18:15.08 | NightHawkTheSane | well, not a huge problem, as most of it's actually commented out by default |
| 18:15.10 | NightHawkTheSane | but it's obnoxious |
| 18:15.10 | *** join/#wowace Primer (n=vi@sh.nu) |
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| 18:15.20 | Xinhuan | just cut and paste the whole thing |
| 18:15.23 | Xinhuan | without the line numbers |
| 18:15.27 | NightHawkTheSane | also, sql server takes bloody forever to install |
| 18:15.38 | Primer | Hi, I'm curious about why Recount still shows as "out of date" despite the fact that it's updated almost daily via WAU |
| 18:15.56 | Ellipsis | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:15.59 | Paene | alright, giving it another try |
| 18:16.00 | NightHawkTheSane | because you touch yourself at night |
| 18:16.15 | Primer | well, that I do... |
| 18:17.31 | Ellipsis | actually Recount itself hasn't been updated since Sep 18th |
| 18:17.42 | Paene | same problem :-/ |
| 18:17.43 | sylvanaar | i wish there was a good way to know the current interface version |
| 18:17.48 | Primer | then why does it show up as being updated in WAU? |
| 18:17.48 | Ellipsis | you're probably using embedded libs so you get it redownloaded every time a lib changes |
| 18:17.49 | cncfanatics | its just libs getting updated Primer, not the addon |
| 18:18.03 | Primer | I see |
| 18:19.11 | NightHawkTheSane | sylvanaar: ideally, there'd be an API function to return it. |
| 18:19.14 | EKS | It there any addon like CCwatch thats on wowace? |
| 18:19.21 | sylvanaar | out of the game |
| 18:19.42 | Ellipsis | sylvanaar: read the toc numbers for the Blizz addons? |
| 18:19.57 | sylvanaar | all there is a public key |
| 18:20.21 | sylvanaar | they contain nothing |
| 18:20.34 | NightHawkTheSane | sylvanaar: wdn.wowinterface.com? |
| 18:20.35 | dylanm | Huh? |
| 18:20.59 | dylanm | There are versions extracted corresponding to the binary number on the site NightHawk linked. |
| 18:21.02 | sylvanaar | it has to be something local to the client NightHawkTheSane |
| 18:21.21 | sylvanaar | dylanm what? |
| 18:21.33 | dylanm | I'm confused as to what you want. |
| 18:21.34 | Ellipsis | sylvanaar: use the Blizz interface extraction tool then :P |
| 18:21.57 | sylvanaar | no, thats not an option, it has to be w/o doing that |
| 18:22.00 | Ellipsis | ... |
| 18:22.12 | dylanm | Be a little more blunt here. |
| 18:22.17 | Ellipsis | so you want to have something that you already have, but without doing what you have to do to get it? |
| 18:22.20 | NightHawkTheSane | sylvanaar: it's reasonably easy for me to check the version number on the wow app, which says (for me) 2.2.2 (7318), and then just check wdn? |
| 18:22.34 | sylvanaar | yeah, i guess |
| 18:22.58 | Ellipsis | I'm guessing this is for WAU so it can check whether addons are toc current |
| 18:23.29 | NightHawkTheSane | ah, well thats another matter entirely |
| 18:23.31 | CIA-12 | 03sirow * r51054 10Avion/ (12 files in 6 dirs): |
| 18:23.31 | CIA-12 | Avion: |
| 18:23.31 | CIA-12 | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:23.31 | CIA-12 | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:23.31 | CIA-12 | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:23.34 | sylvanaar | that would work - but that's 2 server transactions, because really , i would read the current version from blizzard's site, then get the toc for it from wdng |
| 18:23.45 | cncfanatics | shldnt matter for WAU rly, why does it care ? |
| 18:23.53 | cncfanatics | lots of addons are not updated every patch |
| 18:23.59 | Paene | Do I have to do anything to the files themselves? Or should the auto-props handle that for me? |
| 18:24.04 | Ellipsis | you could have it check some text file somewhere on WAU's hosting site, and bump that yourself, sylvanaar |
| 18:24.05 | NightHawkTheSane | if you meant programatically, you should have said so, I thought you meant just in general |
| 18:24.06 | sylvanaar | i dont care, that's not what i am asking |
| 18:24.15 | Trell_ | just hit 11 barrels delivered |
| 18:24.15 | Ellipsis | the only problem is that toc isn't synced between all locales... |
| 18:24.19 | Trell_ | my parents would be so proud |
| 18:24.24 | sylvanaar | right |
| 18:25.04 | sylvanaar | i know how to get the correct version for your client from wow's site |
| 18:25.05 | Ellipsis | so you'd have to have 2(+?) version numbers |
| 18:25.38 | sylvanaar | so i guess i can just xref it to wdn |
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| 18:25.44 | Paene | SVN hates me :( |
| 18:25.45 | sylvanaar | that seems less than ideal but w/e |
| 18:25.55 | Ellipsis | well Blizz isn't gonna serve it to you on a silver platter |
| 18:26.01 | cncfanatics | they shld rly |
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| 18:26.51 | NightHawkTheSane | Agreed, current version and current interface toc for a local should be easily accessible from blizzards site, really |
| 18:26.54 | sylvanaar | yeah, it should just be in a text file |
| 18:27.01 | cncfanatics | or an xml |
| 18:27.03 | cncfanatics | doesnt even matter |
| 18:27.08 | sylvanaar | current version is |
| 18:27.20 | sylvanaar | just not the interface version |
| 18:27.20 | cncfanatics | an xml with every version in history and the latest one wld be ideal imo |
| 18:27.22 | NightHawkTheSane | well, even if you have to scrape an html doc for it, or whatever, it'd be better than having to cross reference against another site |
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| 18:29.19 | cncfanatics | hmmm |
| 18:29.57 | CIA-12 | 03cwdg * r51055 10Babble-2.2/Babble-Spell-2.2/Babble-Spell-2.2.lua: |
| 18:29.57 | CIA-12 | Babble-2.2: |
| 18:29.57 | CIA-12 | -update zhCN local |
| 18:30.03 | Paene | When importing using tortoisesvn, should I be seeing a mime type for .lua files? |
| 18:30.18 | Paene | as it shows what it's adding that is |
| 18:30.42 | CIA-12 | 03stan * r51056 10simpleMinimap/modules/ (autozoom.lua compass.lua pings.lua): |
| 18:30.42 | CIA-12 | simpleMinimap: |
| 18:30.42 | CIA-12 | - deDe fix |
| 18:30.42 | thgjerde | how can i find the localized strings for talent names |
| 18:30.57 | kadrahil | sooo... can i get friendly with cenarion circle again after killing the guy in org too many times? |
| 18:31.16 | Stanzilla2 | thgjerde: libdogtag-2.0 |
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| 18:32.12 | Paradox | haha kadrahil |
| 18:33.40 | Dunreith | i'm thinking about a mod that keeps a short-term log of unit healths for review (ie. can review last 10-20 UNIT_HEALTH changes at any given time, esp helpful for reviewing wipes) -- before i put too much into it, is there something out there that does this? |
| 18:34.28 | Dunreith | i used to use XPerl, they recently added a module called GrimReaper that does this king of thing, but haven't found anything comparable in Ace |
| 18:34.32 | liquiem | assessment comes to mind |
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| 18:34.58 | kebinusan | Dunreith: Assessment, Expiration, Recount all have death logs like that |
| 18:35.07 | Vangual | recount can do it, tho it might be a bit overkill just for that stat |
| 18:35.18 | CIA-12 | 03cwdg * r51057 10LibBabble-Spell-3.0/LibBabble-Spell-3.0.lua: |
| 18:35.18 | CIA-12 | LibBabble-Spell-3.0: |
| 18:35.18 | CIA-12 | - Update zhCN local, fix some translate bug. |
| 18:35.44 | cncfanatics | why did that kind of addon get written for xperl ? |
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| 18:36.26 | Paene | argh |
| 18:36.31 | Paene | I don't get why this isn't working |
| 18:36.46 | cncfanatics | cryogen, ping ? |
| 18:36.48 | cryogen | pong |
| 18:36.50 | Towbar | ok UI opnions pls: |
| 18:36.50 | Dunreith | recount looks like it's got what i need in the "Death Details" window |
| 18:36.51 | Towbar | http://tsni.biz/wow/if-2007-10-05_1.jpg |
| 18:36.52 | cryogen | good timingjust sat down |
| 18:37.05 | Dunreith | Vangual: thanks |
| 18:37.05 | Towbar | mostly done now, jsut showing recount and omen so you see position |
| 18:37.20 | cncfanatics | cryogen, how's the module going along ? |
| 18:37.31 | cryogen | i just managed to get the computer back |
| 18:37.34 | cryogen | so back on it now :) |
| 18:37.43 | cncfanatics | saw what I said about fullyinitialized ? |
| 18:37.46 | cncfanatics | just register the sub there |
| 18:38.02 | cryogen | yeah.. how do i call AddEventListener though? |
| 18:38.06 | cryogen | what object do i call it on? |
| 18:39.13 | cncfanatics | LibRockEvent |
| 18:39.54 | cncfanatics | I'm also updating some other textsub code |
| 18:40.01 | cncfanatics | to actualy update when registering new subs |
| 18:40.23 | cryogen | LibRockEvent:AddEventListener? o_o |
| 18:40.49 | cncfanatics | no |
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| 18:40.59 | cncfanatics | Rock("LibRockEvent-1.0"):AddEventListener |
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| 18:41.12 | cryogen | gotcha |
| 18:41.45 | futurekill | anyone else getting funky colors on their simpleminimap while in UC and instances? |
| 18:41.51 | cryogen | Message: Error calling method "FullyInitialized" on object "table: 134457D8". Method does not exist. |
| 18:41.54 | cryogen | o_O |
| 18:42.02 | cncfanatics | nab |
| 18:42.11 | cncfanatics | register an event AFTER you made the method to handle it |
| 18:43.41 | Paene | If I set up a vncserver, anyone willing to see if they can figure out what's wrong with my svn? (yes, I know it's a lot to ask) |
| 18:44.29 | Shadowed | googlecode go! |
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| 18:46.31 | Seerah | looking at this stupid cat and mouse game and shit on the forums makes me a sad panda |
| 18:47.13 | cryogen | cncfanatics: now nothing shows unless i /fb settext after /rl |
| 18:47.15 | EKS | It there any addon like CCwatch thats on wowace? |
| 18:47.23 | cncfanatics | cryogen, gotcha |
| 18:47.25 | cncfanatics | I know why |
| 18:47.28 | Xinhuan | lol seerah |
| 18:47.28 | cncfanatics | and already fixed it |
| 18:47.29 | cncfanatics | just gotta commit it |
| 18:47.38 | cryogen | because it doesnt hold the non existing placeholder, right? |
| 18:47.48 | Xinhuan | you haven't seen the commit logs of yesterday in the channels ;p |
| 18:47.56 | Seerah | I'm not laughing, Xinhuan |
| 18:48.01 | Shadowed | i am! |
| 18:48.16 | Seerah | all you guys should be ashamed of yourselves |
| 18:48.38 | cncfanatics | cryogen, yea |
| 18:48.45 | cncfanatics | or no |
| 18:48.46 | cncfanatics | it actualy does |
| 18:48.51 | Shadowed | amusement overrides the shame |
| 18:48.56 | cncfanatics | but it doesnt update when a new text sub is registered |
| 18:49.00 | cryogen | ah ok |
| 18:49.10 | Nandini | hmm... broad condemnation then he disappears, as if that were any less childish. LOL |
| 18:49.57 | Dustwhisper | Has anyone gotten Recount to work for the past month? |
| 18:50.01 | Dustwhisper | it refuses to register anything for me |
| 18:50.10 | Towbar | working 100% for me |
| 18:50.27 | Nandini | explain "refuses to register" |
| 18:50.50 | Paene | Delete your interface, WTF, and Cache folders, if that doesn't work then re-install WoW |
| 18:50.52 | Kemayo | Dustwhisper: Works for me. |
| 18:51.20 | Towbar | lol thats a bit extreme |
| 18:51.24 | Paene | :-p |
| 18:51.30 | Paene | that's teh blizz repsonse! |
| 18:51.32 | Paene | wow |
| 18:51.34 | Towbar | ! |
| 18:51.34 | Polarina | Paene: No, not re-install WoW. Run the Repair.exe tool. |
| 18:51.35 | Paene | I slaughtered that |
| 18:51.39 | Towbar | haha |
| 18:51.47 | Paene | lol |
| 18:52.02 | Nandini | I fail to see the point of the repair too, reinstalling is almost always faster for me |
| 18:52.07 | Nandini | repair tool, that is |
| 18:52.09 | cryogen | ~api GetPlayerBuff |
| 18:52.09 | purl | http://www.wowwiki.com/API_GetPlayerBuff |
| 18:52.23 | Paene | Anyone here use a SVN client other than tortoise? |
| 18:52.32 | Polarina | ~api GetDifficultyColor |
| 18:52.32 | purl | http://www.wowwiki.com/API_GetDifficultyColor |
| 18:52.38 | CIA-12 | 03cncfanatics * r51058 10FlexBar2/ (6 files in 3 dirs): |
| 18:52.38 | CIA-12 | FlexBar2: |
| 18:52.38 | CIA-12 | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:52.38 | CIA-12 | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:52.38 | CIA-12 | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:52.40 | cncfanatics | cryogen, done |
| 18:52.51 | cncfanatics | cryogen, use the SA api rly |
| 18:52.54 | cncfanatics | gives u everything u need |
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| 18:53.39 | cryogen | is there a reference somewhere? |
| 18:56.46 | CIA-12 | 03kameril * r51059 10VisualThemes/ (. Core.lua ThemeClass.lua embeds.xml): |
| 18:56.46 | CIA-12 | VisualThemes: |
| 18:56.46 | CIA-12 | -Removed debugging code. |
| 18:57.39 | Nandini | nevcairiel: i forgot to thank you for the BT3 fix for baby bear druids last week, i'm rolling a new druid on a new server and paging works fine now :) |
| 18:58.11 | CIA-12 | 03cwdg * r51060 10LibFuBarPlugin-3.0/LibFuBarPlugin-3.0.lua: |
| 18:58.11 | CIA-12 | LibFuBarPlugin-3.0: |
| 18:58.11 | CIA-12 | - Add zhCN local |
| 18:59.04 | cncfanatics | cryogen, same as LibSpecialEvents-2.0 rly |
| 18:59.06 | cncfanatics | use that one |
| 18:59.40 | miica | i want good dot timer.. :< |
| 18:59.55 | miica | ghost bars and shows only your target dots |
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| 19:01.21 | todd | if I wanted to make my own border for sharedmedia, can anyone give me some pointers as far as image sizing and transparency goes? |
| 19:01.30 | todd | it looks like they must be 128x16 |
| 19:01.45 | miyakeke | one day someone will write up a guide for datamining with tattle... one day |
| 19:01.57 | cryogen | woot it works |
| 19:02.03 | todd | but does wow interpret black as transparent? or should I use transparency within photoshop? |
| 19:02.18 | hyperChipmunk | use an alpha channel |
| 19:02.21 | Nandini | you will need to save the transparency as a separate alpha channel |
| 19:02.25 | CIA-12 | 03cwdg * r51061 10LibRock-1.0/LibRock-1.0.lua: |
| 19:02.25 | CIA-12 | LibRock-1.0: |
| 19:02.25 | CIA-12 | -Update zhCN local |
| 19:02.35 | hyperChipmunk | so, yes on the photoshop thing |
| 19:06.47 | cryogen | hmm |
| 19:06.56 | cryogen | someone broke babble-spell-2.0 |
| 19:07.24 | cryogen | 19:29 < CIA-12> cwdg * r51055 Babble-2.2/Babble-Spell-2.2/Babble-Spell-2.2.lua: |
| 19:07.24 | cryogen | 19:29 < CIA-12> Babble-2.2: |
| 19:07.24 | cryogen | 19:29 < CIA-12> -update zhCN local |
| 19:07.26 | Nandini | yes i think someone failed to close a table |
| 19:07.38 | cryogen | Message: ..\AddOns\AutoBar\libs\Babble-Spell-2.2\Babble-Spell-2.2.lua line 5151: |
| 19:07.39 | cryogen | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:07.46 | Nandini | or left out a comma |
| 19:07.50 | cryogen | someone fix teh pls |
| 19:08.00 | cryogen | dont have my svn account yet |
| 19:08.05 | Nandini | i don't have it checked out atm |
| 19:08.54 | Nandini | hmm wow has crashed 3 times in a row while trying to change the frame background color in pitbull |
| 19:09.17 | cryogen | holy crap did that babble change break stuff |
| 19:09.20 | cryogen | *everything* uses it |
| 19:09.45 | Nandini | you shouldn't notice a difference unless you are using a different locale, in which case, everything may break |
| 19:09.58 | cryogen | the lua file doesnt parse |
| 19:10.01 | cryogen | so it breaks |
| 19:10.06 | CIA-12 | 03cwdg * r51062 10LibRockConfig-1.0/LibRockConfig-1.0.lua: |
| 19:10.06 | CIA-12 | LibRockConfig-1.0: |
| 19:10.06 | CIA-12 | -Update zhCN local |
| 19:10.06 | cncfanatics | if its a syntax error then it all broke |
| 19:10.12 | Paene | alright, got past those SVN errors, got a new one... such and such file "has inconsistent newlines" |
| 19:10.12 | cryogen | it is |
| 19:10.19 | Dezzimal | is there anyway to add filtering to quartz's debuff timer? |
| 19:10.25 | Dezzimal | What say I don't want to see mindflay or misery |
| 19:10.29 | cncfanatics | Paene, ur not using the correct newline stuff then |
| 19:10.32 | kebinusan | cryogen: yeah babblespell got bjorked just a sec ago |
| 19:10.40 | cryogen | yes i noticed :/ |
| 19:10.45 | cryogen | is anyone in a position to quickly fix it? |
| 19:10.54 | Paene | cncfanatics: what do you mean by newline stuff? |
| 19:11.05 | cncfanatics | "enters" |
| 19:11.15 | Paene | yes, but how am I not using it correctly? |
| 19:11.16 | Nandini | i hate making changes to babble, my lua editor does not always play well with the encoding of the files |
| 19:11.21 | cncfanatics | ur editor ain't, Paene |
| 19:11.35 | Paene | hm... |
| 19:11.38 | cncfanatics | cryogen, ur mod working ? |
| 19:11.57 | cryogen | cncfanatics: cant tell, babble breakage fucks my ui over :) |
| 19:12.19 | kebinusan | sec, lemme see if my svn account still works |
| 19:12.22 | cncfanatics | cryogen, then revert |
| 19:12.24 | cncfanatics | mine does |
| 19:12.27 | cncfanatics | tell me what to change |
| 19:12.34 | kebinusan | cncfanatics: line 5151 |
| 19:12.34 | cryogen | i use wua atm :p |
| 19:12.47 | kebinusan | there are two lines that are dup'd |
| 19:12.53 | CIA-12 | 03hyperactiveChipmunk * r51063 10Babble-2.2/Babble-Spell-2.2/Babble-Spell-2.2.lua: |
| 19:12.53 | CIA-12 | Babble-2.2: Babble-Spell-2.2 |
| 19:12.53 | CIA-12 | - attemped fix of chinese crazy coder catastrophe |
| 19:12.59 | cryogen | hyperChipmunk: thanks |
| 19:13.02 | kebinusan | heh \o/ |
| 19:13.02 | cncfanatics | there u go |
| 19:13.14 | cncfanatics | does WAU2 work on anything but windows atm ? |
| 19:13.24 | cncfanatics | even though its java it dsnt seem to (at least not a few months ago when I tried) |
| 19:13.24 | Nandini | just had an extra function end |
| 19:13.53 | hyperChipmunk | was it just the end? i deleted an extra brace too |
| 19:13.59 | hyperChipmunk | it might still be wrong =p |
| 19:14.03 | Nandini | yes the brace after the end was extra too |
| 19:14.06 | Nandini | 2 lines |
| 19:14.11 | hyperChipmunk | k |
| 19:14.28 | Nandini | i canceled a commit in the middle of doing it, hopefully that doesn't make things worse |
| 19:14.37 | cryogen | it wont |
| 19:14.40 | cryogen | svn commits are atomic |
| 19:14.46 | hyperChipmunk | they're atomic, so np |
| 19:14.52 | cncfanatics | cryogen, I hope it works for debuffs on target too ? |
| 19:15.00 | cryogen | cncfanatics: it can :) |
| 19:15.09 | cryogen | im moving it to a standalone module atm |
| 19:15.13 | cryogen | while i wait for files.wowace to update |
| 19:15.22 | cncfanatics | cryogen, woootage nice one |
| 19:15.32 | cncfanatics | bye bye dot timers for locks ? :p |
| 19:15.37 | cncfanatics | thats way better imo :p |
| 19:16.00 | cryogen | yeah, will be hella nice |
| 19:16.09 | thgjerde | Babble-Spell-2.2 is missing 'Improved Divine Spirit' i think |
| 19:16.29 | *** join/#wowace Kuja__ (i=kvirc@i59F71D01.versanet.de) |
| 19:17.10 | Nandini | improved divine spirit is a talent, not a spell |
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| 19:17.28 | thgjerde | oh, where does the talents go? |
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| 19:18.42 | *** mode/#wowace [+o Tem] by ChanServ |
| 19:18.52 | Nandini | there are localizations of the talent tree names for classes in Babble-SpellTree-2.2, but I don't think there are any localizations of talent names |
| 19:19.11 | Nandini | i wonder why it is called spelltree and not talenttree anyway |
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| 19:19.32 | cryogen | wru files.wowace refresh |
| 19:19.34 | Ellipsis | the talents are localized in Babble-Spell |
| 19:19.46 | Ellipsis | don't ask why, it makes no sense |
| 19:19.49 | NightHawkTheSane | Nandini: because spells are divided into the same trees as talents |
| 19:19.53 | cryogen | Ellipsis: /attack doesnt exist, btw |
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| 19:19.57 | Ellipsis | cryogen: your mom |
| 19:19.59 | cryogen | Ellipsis: so where's my macro :p |
| 19:20.02 | Ellipsis | I dunno, I was going off memory |
| 19:20.10 | cryogen | :( |
| 19:20.14 | cryogen | come on you can do it! |
| 19:20.15 | Ellipsis | if /cast Attack doesn't work for you, then suck it up or pick up Alchemy :P |
| 19:20.23 | cryogen | pfft |
| 19:20.36 | cryogen | #show Attack will give me the right icon? |
| 19:20.39 | Ellipsis | yeah |
| 19:20.39 | Nandini | true, you're right then thgjerde, improved divine spirit is missing |
| 19:20.48 | cryogen | that and /startattack will do then i guess |
| 19:20.54 | cryogen | escape always works for stopping |
| 19:20.54 | Ellipsis | cryogen: why can't you just drag the action from spellbook? |
| 19:20.57 | Ellipsis | or is this FB2 |
| 19:20.59 | cryogen | FB" |
| 19:21.01 | cryogen | 2 |
| 19:21.02 | Ellipsis | lame |
| 19:21.09 | cryogen | blame cncfanatics |
| 19:21.11 | Ellipsis | I do |
| 19:21.12 | Ellipsis | :P |
| 19:21.13 | cryogen | or blizzard |
| 19:21.15 | Antiarc | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:21.18 | Ellipsis | even though it's really Blizz's fault |
| 19:22.06 | cryogen | #show Attack\n/startattack it is! |
| 19:22.25 | cryogen | come on stupid mods, update :p |
| 19:22.36 | Livid | is there an easy way to get a gametooltip to show above a tabletlib tooltip ? |
| 19:22.37 | Antiarc | cryogen: What are you trying to accomplish? That seems an odd choice for a macro |
| 19:22.50 | cncfanatics | yea blame me for blizzbugs |
| 19:22.52 | cryogen | Antiarc: untimately, an autoattack macro |
| 19:23.15 | cryogen | Antiarc: /cast Attack is bugged, and doesnt work |
| 19:23.33 | Antiarc | yeah, there's something odd about the Attack spell |
| 19:23.37 | Antiarc | It's not really a spell or something |
| 19:23.37 | cncfanatics | no there ain't |
| 19:23.40 | cncfanatics | blizz messed up |
| 19:23.42 | CIA-12 | 03paene * r51064 10Cryolysis/ (310 files in 8 dirs): Cryolysis: initial import |
| 19:23.46 | cryogen | it used to work just fine |
| 19:23.47 | Paene | VICTORY! |
| 19:23.48 | cncfanatics | u can't use CastSpellByName on the first action in ur spellbook |
| 19:23.48 | cryogen | they just broke it |
| 19:23.51 | Antiarc | (If it was, then I could check to see if I was in range for it) |
| 19:23.54 | cncfanatics | so thats alchemy or attack |
| 19:23.58 | Antiarc | Interesting |
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| 19:24.31 | cncfanatics | they forgot C tables start with index 0 |
| 19:24.35 | cncfanatics | and used the lua index 1 to start |
| 19:24.35 | cncfanatics | I bet |
| 19:24.45 | Antiarc | Slouken's smarter than that :P |
| 19:24.50 | CIA-12 | 03stan * r51065 10simpleMinimap/modules/pings.lua: |
| 19:24.50 | CIA-12 | simpleMinimap: |
| 19:24.50 | CIA-12 | - fix |
| 19:24.53 | cryogen | shit happens |
| 19:25.05 | cryogen | the best of us have off days :) |
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| 19:25.45 | hypetech | anybody on that's pretty familiar with baggins? |
| 19:26.06 | Ellipsis | I know my way around, what's up? |
| 19:26.40 | NightHawkTheSane | "To help protect your computer, Windows has closed this program: Windows Explorer." |
| 19:26.41 | hypetech | Is there anyway to just get rid of the Ammo bag? I have a mage and a paladin :( |
| 19:26.43 | NightHawkTheSane | finally, windows does something right. |
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| 19:27.27 | cryogen | whee, new version of babble being picked up |
| 19:27.29 | cryogen | at last |
| 19:27.36 | MoonWitch | ello people :) |
| 19:27.42 | Nandini | ckknight: if i try to change the opacity of the frame background color in pitbull, wow crashes (tried on 2 separate wow installations, one on vista, one on xp) |
| 19:27.45 | cryogen | time to test my addon |
| 19:28.22 | CIA-12 | 03paene * r51066 10Cryolysis/Locales/Localization-dialog-fr.lua: Cryolysis: added missing localization file |
| 19:29.31 | cryogen | hyperChipmunk: works, thanks. |
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| 19:30.21 | hyperChipmunk | good deal |
| 19:30.36 | CIA-12 | 03dfscott * r51067 10AzuarcLevelGuide/ (. AzuarcLevelGuide.lua AzuarcLevelGuide.toc readme.txt): |
| 19:30.36 | CIA-12 | AzuarcLevelGuide: |
| 19:30.36 | CIA-12 | - designate as "beta" |
| 19:30.36 | CIA-12 | - save last page viewed |
| 19:30.36 | Erica | can someone recommend a good damage meter for me? I've been using recount but seems to be a memory hog lately in raids |
| 19:31.07 | Hallucinosis | sw stats |
| 19:31.21 | Erica | thanks |
| 19:31.28 | Tem | it was always a memory hog |
| 19:31.34 | Tem | that's the nature of things when you store that much info |
| 19:31.48 | Tem | and there's not much you can do about it |
| 19:31.55 | Tem | (from a design standpoint) |
| 19:32.06 | Tem | Besides, people that worry about memory use are fail |
| 19:32.30 | Nandini | let someone else run a damage meter and post the report later |
| 19:32.45 | Nandini | assuming you are not someone concerned about pet damage |
| 19:32.46 | Erica | I don't think I worry about memory usage itself really... trying to still have the mods I like without so much lag |
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| 19:34.08 | Nandini | perhaps get a new computer instead of a new damage meter? :) |
| 19:34.15 | Erica | lol |
| 19:34.20 | hypetech | new damage meter is a little cheaper :) |
| 19:34.21 | Erica | I hear ya lol |
| 19:34.34 | Nandini | see, it all depends on your priorities! :D |
| 19:35.01 | Ellipsis | I'd get a new computer tbh |
| 19:35.02 | Erica | I'd love to buy a new computer every year but still have to worry about frivilous things like food and clothes |
| 19:35.05 | Ellipsis | if I really needed that much info |
| 19:35.30 | durcyn | how much physical memory do you have, Erica? |
| 19:35.37 | Erica | 1.5g |
| 19:35.40 | Nandini | hmm i think LibRockConfig is having problems saving color variables due to its inclusion of two color models |
| 19:35.46 | MoonWitch | that's more than I have Erica |
| 19:36.00 | Erica | Like I said though just trying to find a way to cut down on lag |
| 19:36.18 | Erica | It may not be memory usage but something else using resources... trying to find the pig |
| 19:36.19 | Hjalte | Will my spell hit rating affect my succubus seduce? |
| 19:36.20 | Nandini | i have r = nil, g = nil, b = nil, a = 0 stuck in my SVs and now any time i try to change a, it crashes all of wow |
| 19:36.42 | durcyn | 1.5gb? memory use is not your problem. |
| 19:37.03 | Nandini | try hiding the recount frame until after fights |
| 19:37.24 | Nandini | if i hide my entire UI (alt-z) i reclaim about 10-15% cpu usage |
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| 19:37.29 | ckknight | Nandini: :-(. I can almost guarantee it's not because of the HSL/RGB thing, though |
| 19:37.31 | ckknight | hey all, btw |
| 19:37.44 | Erica | Hi |
| 19:37.55 | Aeyan | Ello |
| 19:38.00 | Erica | You guys seem much happier today |
| 19:38.06 | MoonWitch | ello ckknight |
| 19:38.06 | Nandini | give it time erica :) |
| 19:38.11 | ckknight | Erica: which guys? |
| 19:38.20 | Erica | You for one lol |
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| 19:38.29 | Hallucinosis | lol |
| 19:38.42 | ckknight | Erica: no, I'm still quite pissed off |
| 19:38.59 | NightHawkTheSane | did someone fuck up babble-spell? |
| 19:39.13 | Erica | sorry to hear that :( |
| 19:39.17 | Nandini | i'm pretty sure in both the HSV and RGB models, nothing should ever be nil, with the exception of H (where nil could be represented as -1, as blizz does) |
| 19:39.46 | Kuja__ | NightHawkTheSane: yeah but its already fix0rd |
| 19:40.13 | cncfanatics | why u pissed ckknight ? I was getting drunk yesterday |
| 19:40.43 | ckknight | Nandini: yea, but that's not what I do |
| 19:40.52 | ckknight | cncfanatics: Scrooge still pisses me off |
| 19:41.13 | Kuja__ | i should get drunken too because i pissed off also... but i'd decided playing wow will be just enough for now... |
| 19:41.20 | Nandini | i've been trying to figure out how r, g, b all ended up as nil in my SVs, it seems to happen after i change a to 0 |
| 19:41.51 | cncfanatics | ckknight, Scrooge was made to piss off ppl |
| 19:41.54 | cncfanatics | it hides donations buttons :s |
| 19:42.22 | Eggi | ckk: if someone would like to give you money they will find the right paypal link also if they are not ingame |
| 19:42.31 | Nandini | ask for donations on your wiki or forum page then, that way you can put a real link :) |
| 19:43.11 | Nandini | or maybe someone can change the addon:infobox template to extract the donate link and put it there automatically on wiki pages at least |
| 19:43.11 | durcyn | still, distributing an addon that removes that from other addons is lower than dirt. |
| 19:43.13 | ckknight | Eggi: but many people don't realize that I accept donations, if they see the (non-obtrusive) donation button ingame, they might be more likely to donate |
| 19:44.11 | Eggi | you don't have it in your signature? |
| 19:44.34 | durcyn | you assume that everyone using these addons reads wowace.com/forums |
| 19:44.53 | Nandini | has anyone ever actually received a donation? |
| 19:45.09 | Eggi | ckk also posts on other boards |
| 19:45.14 | Nandini | and if so, has that (or lack of receiving them) changed your level of committment to addon development? |
| 19:45.15 | ckknight | Eggi: not everyone goes to the forums |
| 19:45.22 | Dunreith | WAU + word of mouth advertising == Never having to search forums for mods / info |
| 19:45.23 | ckknight | or any boards at all |
| 19:45.26 | Eggi | *posted |
| 19:45.32 | CIA-12 | 03eraslin * r51068 10DKPmon_XML/ (6 files): DKPmon_XML: Initial import. I'm splitting the XML export options off of DKPmon_eqDKP into its own module. |
| 19:45.51 | durcyn | Nandini: ck has stated on multiple occasions that he wouldn't even have a wow account without donations |
| 19:45.59 | ckknight | Nandini: frankly, I think Shadowed should be shunned for what he did, but otherwise, no |
| 19:46.18 | cryogen | cncfanatics: hm, how do i force a refresh of all buttons? |
| 19:46.22 | Shadowed | Good thing you're not an admin and it's not up to you |
| 19:46.31 | Kain____ | id make a donation if celluar was made tab based like WIM... that mod bugs out and i love my ace mods but WIM is only good way to manage whispers... :) |
| 19:46.38 | ckknight | I'm at least an op in the channel |
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| 19:47.10 | Shadowed | Somehow, I doubt they'd let you ban me because you disagree with Scrooge personally. |
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| 19:49.07 | cncfanatics | cryogen: UpdateTextSub("subname"); |
| 19:49.13 | cncfanatics | or don't give a name if u want all subs to update |
| 19:49.22 | ag` | Hi |
| 19:49.30 | ag` | what's the delly? |
| 19:49.45 | Tem | ckknight, Honestly, I think /you/ should be shunned for sticking the "give me money" link fucking everywhere |
| 19:49.49 | Tem | it's distasteful |
| 19:49.57 | Eggi | ckk: do you really think that someone who uses scrooge would donate to you? i mean scrooge does not so much other things then hiding your links... |
| 19:50.07 | ckknight | it's not intrusive, I don't see the big deal |
| 19:50.12 | cryogen | cncfanatics: on what object? |
| 19:50.14 | Nandini | taste is a matter of personal preference |
| 19:50.27 | CIA-12 | 03thexod * r51069 10ItemValue/ (Class_StatSet.lua ItemValue-deDE.lua ItemValue-enGB.lua): |
| 19:50.27 | CIA-12 | ItemValue: |
| 19:50.27 | CIA-12 | - Changed IBL identifier "ARMOR" into "BASE_ARMOR" |
| 19:50.27 | CIA-12 | - Added "ARMOR_BONUS" identifier |
| 19:50.29 | cryogen | cncfanatics: FlexBar2? |
| 19:50.34 | Shadowed | it is intrusive |
| 19:50.37 | Shadowed | and it is obvious you ask for donations |
| 19:50.42 | ckknight | Eggi: someone who uses scrooge to hide my donation links doesn't deserve to use my addons in my eyes. Also, there are many that I've talked to that didn't know that Scrooge did that. |
| 19:50.47 | Shadowed | I could n ame 5 areas that you ask for donations off the top of my head |
| 19:50.53 | cncfanatics | cryogen, on the textsubs module |
| 19:50.57 | cryogen | alright |
| 19:50.57 | Shadowed | You're not the one who decides who deserves to use your addons |
| 19:51.00 | cncfanatics | same object u called RegisterTextSub on |
| 19:51.09 | cryogen | ya |
| 19:51.11 | Shadowed | you distribute them on wowace which lets anyone download anything there, if you don't like that then you have to remove it from wowace and host it yourself |
| 19:51.13 | cryogen | shouldve realised that :p |
| 19:51.19 | Eggi | but why should they use scrooge if they don't even know what it does? |
| 19:51.24 | Tem | Shadowed, lawl mazzleui |
| 19:51.26 | *** join/#wowace Erica (n=erica647@cpe-075-178-181-026.nc.res.rr.com) |
| 19:51.26 | Shadowed | well they know now |
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| 19:51.30 | Shadowed | thanks to this |
| 19:51.34 | cncfanatics | whats intrusive ? donations links ? |
| 19:51.40 | Tem | cncfanatics, yes |
| 19:51.49 | Aeyan | Jeebus, I'd hoped this wouldn't start again. |
| 19:51.49 | Tem | they make me angry when I see them |
| 19:51.53 | Industrial | ^ |
| 19:52.13 | Erica | Simple Minimap is showing an error now... [2007/10/05 15:46:50-327-x1]: simpleMinimap\modules\pings.lua:70: '}' expected (to close '{' at line 69) near 'Pings' |
| 19:52.19 | Kuja__ | Aeyan: ack... :x |
| 19:52.20 | cryogen | hmm, doesnt do what i expected |
| 19:52.34 | cncfanatics | yea, I guess its forbidden to get something for ur work |
| 19:52.36 | Kuja__ | Erica: (should) be fixed already... |
| 19:52.46 | Erica | thanks |
| 19:52.53 | Tem | Also, for the record, scrooge was not made to piss off people |
| 19:53.06 | Tem | it was made to hide those damn links that piss off people |
| 19:53.10 | Industrial | cncfanatics: its not forbidden, but its also not forbidden to want to hide the link. |
| 19:53.30 | Industrial | cncfanatics: it's anoying though, to say the least. |
| 19:53.39 | durcyn | and yet again the channel overflows with self-righteous horseshit. who the fuck do you think you are to tell ck he can't accept donations? he wrote the code, for christ's sake |
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| 19:53.49 | Shadowed | no you're confusing two different thhings |
| 19:53.54 | Tem | durcyn, I _never_ _ever_ said that |
| 19:53.58 | cryogen | cncfanatics: and last question(i hope) is there a cpu-friendly event to listen on for updates to the counter? |
| 19:54.01 | Kuja__ | tbh, i never actually heard here that the donation links piss off people |
| 19:54.01 | Shadowed | Scrooge does not say he's allowed to accept donations, it REMOVES THE BUTTON that lets you |
| 19:54.03 | Industrial | durcyn: read what I am saying durcyn, im telling you the exact opposite |
| 19:54.13 | Shadowed | Remember, the WoW UI is essentially a giant mod |
| 19:54.13 | sylvanaar | wow, it worked the first itm |
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| 19:54.16 | sylvanaar | time |
| 19:54.17 | durcyn | you want to use his work selectively. that's crap. |
| 19:54.20 | Shadowed | we modify it by changing that giant mod |
| 19:54.27 | Shadowed | a donation button isn't really his work |
| 19:54.34 | Shadowed | it |
| 19:54.38 | Shadowed | it's...a button |
| 19:54.39 | durcyn | no, you're just rationalizing it |
| 19:54.44 | Tem | lawl |
| 19:54.45 | CIA-12 | 03eraslin * r51071 10DKPmon_eqDKP/ (5 files): DKPmon_eqDKP: Pull out the xml-export functionality. |
| 19:54.45 | Shadowed | and you're ignoring facts |
| 19:54.46 | Eggi | is a donation link so bad? i mean it is not like a popup or some kind of ingame advertisement |
| 19:54.51 | Tem | let the fanbois emerge! |
| 19:55.03 | cncfanatics | cryogen, there is somewhere |
| 19:55.05 | cncfanatics | use the same as me ? |
| 19:55.06 | Codayus | Seems like the proper response to donation links would be to avoid addons that have them, if they annoy you... *shrug* Of course I use popup blockers in my browser, so I'm not going to get too self rightous. :-D |
| 19:55.07 | durcyn | i don't care for the donation links, but nor will i remove them |
| 19:55.09 | cncfanatics | check Highlighting.lua |
| 19:55.09 | Ellipsis | yep, right on schedule |
| 19:55.16 | Tem | Basically, durcyn the donation link offends some people |
| 19:55.18 | durcyn | since i myself haven't contributed crap to his addons |
| 19:55.18 | Industrial | durcyn: and you are psotesting against my right (!) to change whatever I want and host that code on the wowace svn |
| 19:55.20 | Tem | that is the reason scrooge exists |
| 19:55.25 | cryogen | ("FlexBar2_EventManager", "UPDATE", |
| 19:55.26 | cryogen | that one? |
| 19:55.28 | Nandini | if they are so offended, perhaps they should not use the addon |
| 19:55.30 | Tem | to hide the offensive material for users who want it |
| 19:55.41 | cncfanatics | no cryogen |
| 19:55.44 | durcyn | i can't believe i'm actually hearing you use the word 'offensive' |
| 19:55.45 | cryogen | ~fail |
| 19:55.46 | purl | ACTION gives cryogen the worst grade imaginable, an A minus... minus! |
| 19:55.48 | ckknight | removing the donation links seem like a way to just not feel bad about being a cheap bastard |
| 19:55.51 | Codayus | Industrial: There's a different between you having a RIGHT to do something, and someone disproving of you doing it... |
| 19:55.55 | cncfanatics | lines 91 to 100 cryogen |
| 19:55.59 | *** part/#wowace Erica (n=erica647@cpe-075-178-181-026.nc.res.rr.com) |
| 19:56.01 | Kuja__ | Codayus: you EXACTLY share my opinion |
| 19:56.13 | Tem | ckknight, AHAHAHAHAHAHA |
| 19:56.14 | Shadowed | and? |
| 19:56.15 | Industrial | Codayus: yes ther is, and thats what I said. |
| 19:56.19 | Shadowed | I disaprove of threat meters |
| 19:56.23 | Shadowed | does that mean they should all be removed? |
| 19:56.35 | ckknight | you don't have to run threat meters or addons that use threat meters |
| 19:56.36 | Shadowed | I also disaprove of idiots, guess we should kill them off |
| 19:56.41 | Shadowed | You don't have to run or use Scrooge either. |
| 19:56.44 | ckknight | just as you don't have to use my addons that have donation links |
| 19:56.54 | Nandini | i'm offended by the color picker control in LibRockConfig, if i created an addon that replaced it or changed its behavior, would that be wrong? |
| 19:56.59 | Shadowed | nup |
| 19:57.04 | Tem | no |
| 19:57.08 | Industrial | no Nandini, just as scrooge isnt wrong |
| 19:57.09 | Tem | in fact, I agree with you |
| 19:57.13 | ckknight | Nandini: no, because I wouldn't take that as a personal affront |
| 19:57.19 | cncfanatics | Shadowed, I don't mind killing off idiots |
| 19:57.20 | Tem | I think the color picker is poor design |
| 19:57.26 | ckknight | Nandini: if you can think of a better way to do it, I'm open-ears |
| 19:57.28 | Nandini | i'm not personally or morally offended by it, just visually :) |
| 19:57.36 | cryogen | cncfanatics: right, got those already, but its a timer, so i need to update every... second? or so |
| 19:57.41 | ckknight | I also accept patches |
| 19:57.42 | Tem | ckknight, I explained to you a month ago a better design, but you ignored me |
| 19:57.43 | Shadowed | You cannot pick and choose what you find right and wrong when you complain about someone modifying an addon |
| 19:57.55 | Tem | (like usual) |
| 19:58.10 | Shadowed | Scrooge modifies Rock to remove the donations, Someone making a mod to change the color picker in Rock is still modifying it |
| 19:58.11 | Nandini | and i can't think of any better way to include all that functionality without using a popup window |
| 19:58.34 | ckknight | Tem: and you also made remarks behind my back and censured me whenever possible and refused to accept my apologies for past behaviors |
| 19:58.37 | CIA-12 | 03paene * r51072 10Cryolysis/Localization-dialog-fr.lua: Cryolysis: added missing localization file |
| 19:58.40 | cncfanatics | cryogen, aaah |
| 19:58.41 | cncfanatics | hmmmm |
| 19:58.44 | cncfanatics | use UPDATE yea |
| 19:58.55 | cncfanatics | the text sub will actualy only rematch its stuff when ur return value changes |
| 19:58.58 | Tem | ckknight, I refused to accept your apologies because they weren't sincere |
| 19:58.59 | sylvanaar | well, this channel is going nowhere |
| 19:59.02 | cncfanatics | (it'll check ur return value every 0.3sec though) |
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| 19:59.06 | ckknight | yes they were |
| 19:59.06 | cryogen | k |
| 19:59.22 | cryogen | blizz' api actually gives milisecond resolution, so.. :p |
| 19:59.27 | cryogen | (but ye, not going there) |
| 19:59.30 | cncfanatics | cryogen |
| 19:59.35 | Livid | anyone have any examples of tabletlib where onenterfun is used to display another tooltip, say like on a clickable line ? |
| 19:59.46 | cncfanatics | if I was you I'd update the text sub only when the buff is on the target |
| 19:59.47 | Livid | onEnterFunc* |
| 19:59.49 | cncfanatics | the way I do my subs are |
| 19:59.52 | cncfanatics | (for cooldowns that is) |
| 19:59.56 | cncfanatics | I register the cooldown event |
| 20:00.07 | cncfanatics | when I detect a cooldown starts on a button I cache its start time & duration |
| 20:00.17 | cncfanatics | and register UPDATE which triggers every 0.3 sec |
| 20:00.26 | cncfanatics | I use the cached values to compute the cooldown to show on the buttons |
| 20:00.32 | cncfanatics | and when the cooldowns over I unregister UPDATE again |
| 20:00.52 | cryogen | hmm so i could unregister update on auralost |
| 20:01.02 | cryogen | and register it on auragain |
| 20:01.19 | cncfanatics | PlayerBuffGained & PlayerBuffLost in the LibSpecialEventsAura-3.0 namespace |
| 20:01.25 | cryogen | in the most simple case at least |
| 20:01.31 | cryogen | debuffs on targets will be slightly more complicated |
| 20:01.36 | cncfanatics | btw, I suggest writing a button mixin to handle updates |
| 20:01.44 | cncfanatics | if u update all buttons whenever there's a cooldown active its overkill |
| 20:01.48 | cncfanatics | just update the button that the cooldown is on |
| 20:01.49 | Marli | i hit my mum when she doesnt buy me things |
| 20:01.49 | Trell_ | [19:59] <miica> i want good dot timer.. :< - ClassTimer |
| 20:02.02 | Trell_ | oops, that was 1h ago |
| 20:02.12 | Trell_ | teach me to not pgdn at the end of reading |
| 20:02.13 | cncfanatics | cryogen, know how to make button mixins ? |
| 20:02.16 | cryogen | ok i have no ida what one of those is |
| 20:02.18 | cryogen | :) |
| 20:02.23 | cncfanatics | ok |
| 20:02.31 | cncfanatics | a button mixin is something that gets mixed in the main button class |
| 20:02.32 | Industrial | ckknight: so how do you justify making an addon that patches your own addon (amongst other addons that have nothing to do with yours) stop working? Isn't that sabotaging the funtionality it brings to all the other addons too? |
| 20:02.38 | cncfanatics | its basicly a part of flexbar after its been mixed in |
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| 20:02.49 | cncfanatics | cryogen, I'll make u an example & help when i'm out of bfd |
| 20:02.54 | cryogen | k |
| 20:03.01 | cryogen | i'll look at Hilighting in the mean time |
| 20:03.09 | cncfanatics | look at cooldown too |
| 20:03.11 | Ascalia | Question: Does someone know, what causes the frame position reset/change of some addons after: >disabled -> login-> logout -> enabled -> login< ? |
| 20:03.12 | cncfanatics | in Action/ |
| 20:03.14 | cryogen | k |
| 20:03.19 | cncfanatics | the updating of the cd is handled in Action.lua |
| 20:03.26 | cncfanatics | registering the sub in TextSubs.lua |
| 20:03.31 | Nandini | those other addons' authors might want to reevaluate their choices, i would think |
| 20:03.47 | ckknight | Industrial: well, if they don't want to have donation links available (which I still consider a political attack), then they don't deserve to use my addons. The other authors of Rock-based addons are fine with what I'm doing |
| 20:03.50 | Industrial | Nandini: but that doesnt justify breaking scrooge intentionally |
| 20:04.21 | Industrial | ckknight: you are not the one to decide on who uses your publicized work. |
| 20:04.32 | Nandini | i don't think any justification is needed, to be completely honest |
| 20:04.43 | Shadowed | Again |
| 20:04.48 | cncfanatics | if(AddOnIsLoaded("Scrooge")) then while true do end end |
| 20:04.49 | Shadowed | you're not the one who decides who deserves to use it |
| 20:04.49 | Nandini | if your work relies on someone elses, it's up to you to choose whether to trust and continue using the other person's work |
| 20:04.50 | cncfanatics | anyone ? |
| 20:05.02 | ckknight | cncfanatics: nah, he hooks IsAddOnLoaded |
| 20:05.05 | Nandini | i don't think it's an issue of justification or deservedness at all, just simple choice |
| 20:05.14 | cncfanatics | ckknight, how so ? |
| 20:05.22 | Industrial | Nandini: he's denying my choice. |
| 20:05.25 | Shadowed | that and a while true loop is against the TOS |
| 20:05.26 | cryogen | just commit !!AntiScrooge to the svn :p |
| 20:05.27 | Codayus | Seems like if anyone other than ck had made an addon, and you'd made a new addon to change it's functionality, and the original author asked you not to...we wouldn't be having this argument, no? |
| 20:05.28 | ckknight | if you check for Scrooge, it returns nil, that it's not loaded |
| 20:05.30 | Shadowed | and thus, would get removed from SVN |
| 20:05.39 | Shadowed | or the check would have to be removed |
| 20:05.44 | Industrial | Codayus: no. |
| 20:05.48 | ckknight | Codayus: probably |
| 20:05.52 | ckknight | Codayus: *shrug* |
| 20:05.55 | cncfanatics | Shadowed, just don't load then, it was actualy a joke :p |
| 20:06.06 | cncfanatics | btw, returning nil on a scrooge check is just ... sad |
| 20:06.19 | Shadowed | cncfanatics, and adding code to a core library thats ran everytime the file is loaded isn't? ;) |
| 20:06.21 | Nandini | if you choose to install scrooge, you are choosing to remove donation links. i would think it would be up to the authors of scrooge to update it to keep those links hidden when the other addon changes |
| 20:06.25 | cncfanatics | Shadowed :) |
| 20:06.27 | durcyn | Codayus: the dongle/ace3 hurt feelings and bruised egos have come home to roost, it seems. |
| 20:06.36 | Nandini | that's how popup blockers in web browsers work, for example. it's a cat and mouse game. |
| 20:06.40 | Shadowed | We wouldn't be having this argument Codayus if it wasn't ckk, because nobody else whines as much as he does about it. |
| 20:06.44 | Industrial | Nandini: personally I dont give a crap about the damn button. The fact that he is denying my right to choose is enough for me to protest. |
| 20:06.44 | durcyn | Codayus: and damn do they ever have a vendetta against ck |
| 20:06.49 | Nandini | and that's how content filtering blockers work |
| 20:06.52 | Shadowed | It's slightly different Nandini, since anything he checks I can modify |
| 20:07.06 | cncfanatics | true enough Nandini, guess I agree of Scrooge then, think of it as a "popup blocker" for wow |
| 20:07.11 | CIA-12 | 03eraslin * r51073 10DKPmon_XML/exportmod.lua: DKPmon_XML: Localization fix. |
| 20:07.13 | cncfanatics | SHadowed, actualy not |
| 20:07.23 | cncfanatics | u cld check if the frame is shown |
| 20:07.27 | cncfanatics | without u being able to prevent that |
| 20:07.30 | durcyn | human nature's a funny thing like that. the people sitting around trying to code by committee are jealous of the guy who actually produces code |
| 20:07.30 | Shadowed | And I can disable that check |
| 20:07.34 | Ellipsis | I use popup blockers for, y'know, popups...intrusive things that make my web browsing experience painful |
| 20:07.38 | cncfanatics | Shadowed, WorldFrame.IsShown(Frame) |
| 20:07.39 | Nandini | yes, but if both parties are determined and committed, it will take continual work on the part of both of them to keep their addons working as they intend |
| 20:07.43 | Ellipsis | I don't use popup blockers for text ads... |
| 20:07.45 | cncfanatics | u can't disablme that without fucking the UI, Shadowed |
| 20:07.49 | Shadowed | IsShown doesn't accept an argument |
| 20:07.50 | Shadowed | afaik |
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| 20:08.01 | cncfanatics | Shadowed Frame:IsShown == Frame.IsShown(Frame); |
| 20:08.05 | cncfanatics | note the . instead of : |
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| 20:08.14 | cncfanatics | I can use any frame's IsShown to check my frame :p |
| 20:08.17 | cncfanatics | and u can't do shit about that |
| 20:08.23 | Industrial | durcyn: I think I proved yesterday that I produce code myself and release it publicly and have been for longer then ckknight actually. |
| 20:08.23 | Shadowed | Sure I could |
| 20:08.26 | cncfanatics | not that i'll bother doing it though |
| 20:08.27 | Codayus | There would seemto be a bright line distinction between popups and donation links. Or do people run plguins to hide the paypal donation link on the wowace website? :-) |
| 20:08.31 | Nandini | it's unlikely that one party will say to the other, okay, i promise to support your purposeful undoing of what i'm trying to do |
| 20:08.32 | cncfanatics | Shadowed, how ? u'd taint the blizz ui |
| 20:08.37 | Shadowed | tricks |
| 20:08.40 | cncfanatics | I can just use the one of a secure frame |
| 20:08.41 | Industrial | durcyn: I am not jealous - I just don't agree with his ideas. |
| 20:08.42 | ckknight | Industrial: length doesn't really matter... |
| 20:08.45 | Nandini | if they feel strongly about it |
| 20:08.47 | Industrial | ckknight: agreed |
| 20:08.50 | Ellipsis | that's what she said |
| 20:08.55 | cncfanatics | Shadowed, please share ur way, I'm not gonna bother myself anyway |
| 20:09.11 | ckknight | *shrug* Indie produces code, often times it's good code |
| 20:09.24 | Shadowed | Codayus, you're still confusing need and want |
| 20:09.32 | ckknight | a little hyper-minimalistic for me, mind you |
| 20:09.37 | Industrial | heh :p |
| 20:09.40 | Ellipsis | but that's why we like him |
| 20:09.42 | ckknight | :-P |
| 20:09.50 | Ellipsis | 'cause he's crazy like that |
| 20:09.54 | NightHawkTheSane | I think Industrial lives in a stark white room, with nothing in it. |
| 20:10.03 | durcyn | Industrial: and i've used your code, and I like it, and I think you're a swell guy. but this whole political tardmrr/tem et al vs ck political drama is wearing on the nerves |
| 20:10.04 | Industrial | Ellipsis has proof. |
| 20:10.08 | Ellipsis | it's true |
| 20:10.16 | Ellipsis | he doesn't wear clothes either, just a loincloth |
| 20:10.18 | NightHawkTheSane | just a white desk, a white computer, white sheets, on a white bed. |
| 20:10.38 | Tem | durcyn, it's not political |
| 20:10.41 | Nandini | durcyn... divest yourself of involvement, it's much less dramatic |
| 20:10.43 | Tem | it's /very/ personal |
| 20:10.51 | Shadowed | It's only political b ecause people have turned it into that |
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| 20:10.53 | tardmrr | you paged? |
| 20:10.57 | tardmrr | what? |
| 20:11.00 | durcyn | Tem: then why does it really need to be publicized? |
| 20:11.04 | tardmrr | oh, yes, I have deep issues with ckk |
| 20:11.04 | Shadowed | durcyn ckk |
| 20:11.08 | tardmrr | moving on |
| 20:11.16 | Shadowed | he added the while loop code which caused all this |
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| 20:11.31 | Shadowed | All of this is pretty much ckk's fault, since if he hadn't done anything we wouldn't be having this convo |
| 20:11.39 | Nandini | i think that was quite clever, personally |
| 20:11.40 | durcyn | Shadowed: godamn, stop tossing fucking blame, you've made your point already |
| 20:11.44 | ckknight | I don't have any real issue with Tem/tardmrr, I just don't like that he despises me |
| 20:11.47 | Industrial | durcyn: because it satisfies a need. |
| 20:11.52 | Kuja^ | sigh... |
| 20:11.54 | Shadowed | You asked a question, you got an answer |
| 20:11.56 | Tem | durcyn, it doesn't, and that wasn't my intention |
| 20:12.05 | ckknight | Shadowed: how is that not the same as if you didn't do anything? |
| 20:12.07 | cncfanatics | Shadowed, I added that code, as a JOKE |
| 20:12.19 | Shadowed | It's a valid mod, and serves a valid use. |
| 20:12.23 | durcyn | meh, i should've headed to the bar an hour ago. |
| 20:12.32 | Dunreith | i'll drink to that |
| 20:12.33 | ckknight | go booze up, durcyn |
| 20:12.34 | Tem | I spoke up because people were ganging up on Shadowed for something he had every right to do |
| 20:12.34 | Shadowed | You blew it out and basically made sure everyone in wowace knew about it along with the forums. |
| 20:12.52 | Shadowed | If you hadn't done anything, I'd have pretty much not commited anything more and nobody would have seen it. |
| 20:12.54 | ckknight | I never posted about it on the forums |
| 20:12.57 | Tem | ckknight, the reason I despise you is because of your attitude |
| 20:13.02 | cryogen | btw for whoeever suggested it |
| 20:13.02 | Tem | it's not uncommon, in fact |
| 20:13.03 | Codayus | Just because someone has a RIGHT to do something doesn't mean they shouldn't be criticized for doing it. |
| 20:13.05 | cryogen | #show Attack doesnt work |
| 20:13.20 | Tem | just about everyone who has tried to work with you agrees to some degree |
| 20:13.25 | Tem | but I digress |
| 20:13.37 | Shadowed | You didn't, but because of your change someone did post about it on the forums. |
| 20:13.55 | Codayus | I've got a right to vote for the Democrats/Republicans (cross out party as applicable); that doesn't mean I shouldn't be called a moonbat/asshole (cross out as appropriate) for doing it. :-D |
| 20:13.58 | Industrial | Codayus: no, it doesnt. But it doesn't mean you should hack it back. |
| 20:14.03 | Shadowed | This isn't really criticizing at this point |
| 20:14.05 | Industrial | Codayus: in the US anyway. |
| 20:14.06 | Shadowed | he's purposely trying to break it |
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| 20:14.25 | Shadowed | Criticizing would be "I disagree with your mod because of X, Y, Z" |
| 20:14.32 | NightHawkTheSane | Codayus: actually, i beg to differon that point. :) |
| 20:14.37 | Shadowed | or even arguing, not "I'm going to make it so you can't use it without modifying things to prevent it" |
| 20:14.40 | Codayus | Industrial: Sure. I could have said National/Labour, but I suspect there's more people in the US than NZ in the channel? |
| 20:14.56 | Industrial | I'm dutch :p |
| 20:15.21 | Ellipsis | your mom |
| 20:15.23 | Codayus | Industrial: I hear there's a cure though. |
| 20:15.24 | Nandini | i don't see anything wrong with someone trying to tamper, or conversely, someone trying to tamper-proof their code |
| 20:15.32 | Industrial | Ellipsis: yes, she is also dutch! |
| 20:15.39 | Ellipsis | I knew it! |
| 20:15.40 | CIA-12 | 03ckknight * r51074 10LibRock-1.0/LibRock-1.0.lua: LibRock-1.0 - add some more checks. |
| 20:15.47 | Nandini | it's very instructive at the least to look at the methods they use |
| 20:15.59 | Industrial | ckknight: maybe like this; NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO |
| 20:16.06 | ckknight | Codayus: I'm a libertarian |
| 20:16.16 | ckknight | Industrial: I's sorry |
| 20:16.24 | Shadowed | Nandini so then it's oky to make it so you can't modify the color picker? |
| 20:16.36 | Codayus | ckknight: See, now you're just being difficult on purpose. |
| 20:16.37 | Nandini | Of course! |
| 20:16.53 | Nandini | If I determine I can't modify the color picker and am then unhappy with the addon, I can choose not to use it. |
| 20:17.06 | Shadowed | you could |
| 20:17.08 | Ellipsis | but the difference is, if someone wanted to write a patch/plugin/whatever for a different color picker, ckknight would probably be happy to add it in |
| 20:17.11 | Shadowed | you could also choose to bypass those checks and do it anyway |
| 20:17.18 | Shadowed | No, you're getting into two different things |
| 20:17.26 | Codayus | Shadowed: You could. But should you? |
| 20:17.32 | Shadowed | sure |
| 20:17.33 | Ellipsis | it's his addon, and ultimately his choice what gets changed |
| 20:17.34 | Shadowed | if you want to, go for it |
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| 20:17.57 | Codayus | Hmmm |
| 20:18.06 | Nandini | What they choose to accomodate is the author's choice, I think. |
| 20:18.19 | ckknight | yea, I am willing to change the color picker, btw |
| 20:18.47 | Dunreith | the nature of Open Source code and projects such as this, yes the author get to decide what goes into an 'official version' or whatnot and that's what generally gets the most use, but branch projects can show up w/ variations |
| 20:18.58 | Grum | ckknight: fix it first ^^ |
| 20:19.13 | ckknight | Grum: how do I reproduce your bug? |
| 20:19.32 | Grum | dunno tbh |
| 20:19.32 | Shadowed | And you're not willing to modify donate |
| 20:19.39 | Shadowed | soooo, it's a valid addon since you won't do it |
| 20:19.40 | Grum | its just a regular color swatch in an inlined group |
| 20:19.54 | ckknight | hrm |
| 20:20.04 | Grum | revert the last change-set and its gone |
| 20:20.08 | mikma | well anyway |
| 20:20.11 | ckknight | okay, I'll look into it |
| 20:20.13 | Grum | something goes wonky with the bottomline.width |
| 20:20.22 | Industrial | mikma loves bum-dildoes |
| 20:20.26 | Grum | and i dont get why, the values are near equal |
| 20:20.28 | mikma | people can always use the CartoAce and FuBarAce, they won't fuck around with Scrooge |
| 20:20.36 | mikma | Industrial: who doesn't? |
| 20:20.37 | Grum | mikma: oh they can .. for now |
| 20:20.46 | Industrial | mikma: dunno, I never tried |
| 20:20.48 | Grum | and if they want any new features they are fucked |
| 20:21.00 | mikma | Grum: no, don't think so |
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| 20:21.28 | Grum | they arent? |
| 20:21.32 | Grum | yes they are |
| 20:21.40 | Grum | the newer addons will be rock-based and not ace-based |
| 20:21.56 | Industrial | Grum: this is your future, not mine :p |
| 20:22.05 | Grum | and thus break (for example because the config is diff) |
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| 20:22.23 | Grum | why ? i'll be sure to use the Rock one |
| 20:22.23 | Industrial | Grum: anything can be made to work. |
| 20:22.32 | Grum | Industrial: fork my addon and die ^^ |
| 20:22.32 | Industrial | Grum: Ill be sure to not. |
| 20:22.43 | Industrial | Grum: its a public repository, I can fork whatever I want |
| 20:23.02 | mikma | Grum: as long as there's people interested of doing forks, people won't miss the new features |
| 20:23.06 | gnorlish | fork you! |
| 20:23.15 | Industrial | I fork you in the eye! |
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| 20:23.27 | Gamefaq | hi |
| 20:23.32 | Industrial | hai |
| 20:23.58 | Industrial | Gamefaq: do you ask frequently asked questions about games frequently?\ |
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| 20:24.19 | Gamefaq | :) |
| 20:24.36 | NightHawkTheSane | Industrial: do you frequenly use the word frequently frequently? |
| 20:25.28 | Industrial | NightHawkTheSane: I didnt say "do you frequently". fail. |
| 20:25.45 | NightHawkTheSane | i know, i'm just harassing you. :P |
| 20:25.53 | Industrial | proceed. |
| 20:26.03 | Industrial | (;D) |
| 20:26.24 | CIA-12 | 03kaelten 07Alpha * r51075 10Ace3/AceHook-3.0/AceHook-3.0.lua: Ace3: Fixed AceHook's criticle path |
| 20:26.42 | NightHawkTheSane | Kaelten: "critical" |
| 20:26.49 | NightHawkTheSane | :( |
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| 20:27.32 | Recluse | is there a point to crayonlib? seems like you could just hard code some consts for the ones you use.... |
| 20:28.06 | kebinusan | Recluse: so your Red doesnt differ from someone elses Red? |
| 20:28.43 | ulic | wait...there's more then one red? |
| 20:28.47 | Recluse | is there a benefit/reason for that? |
| 20:28.56 | Recluse | yar, many shades of red |
| 20:28.58 | Industrial | kebinusan: not really for blizzard defined colors that live in the global namespace mostly anyway |
| 20:29.15 | Industrial | kebinusan: eg class colors, coin colors, aggro/health colors, etc |
| 20:29.22 | mikma | Kaelten: whassup with fisheye? |
| 20:29.28 | Kaelten | ? |
| 20:29.37 | Recluse | hmm, does it do class coloring in crayonlib? |
| 20:29.44 | kebinusan | Yeah, but for other nonessential colors it offers some continuity no? |
| 20:30.06 | Recluse | well, like FFFF0000 i find is way too dark of a red |
| 20:30.18 | Industrial | kebinusan: wich ones? |
| 20:30.36 | Recluse | i prefer something closer to FFFF6666 or FFFF9999 which is still dark enough to show up on white but readable with ease on black |
| 20:30.40 | kebinusan | I dunno I havent even opened up crayon lib to see whats inside it, just sayin |
| 20:31.17 | Industrial | me neither - but I expect there to not be a whole bunch more then those that I've named - are otherwise known |
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| 20:31.29 | mikma | Kaelten: "Repository scanner paused - resuming in 88 seconds" |
| 20:32.03 | Kaelten | it does that sometimes, should be fine |
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| 20:32.26 | kebinusan | red orange yellow green white copper silver gold purple it looks like |
| 20:32.32 | mikma | Kaelten: bitchslap it until it works please :) |
| 20:34.38 | Recluse | if you go down further there are some like GetNearest() functions, but i'm not too hip on color variants, and definitely not sure why it'd be needed for these addons XD maybe if the colors are being modified in your addon by some mathmatical formula perhaps |
| 20:35.19 | Ellipsis | hmm, anyone had a problem with Violation not showing certain people? |
| 20:35.23 | Recluse | anyhow, obviously someone wanted/needed it, i'm just saying i don't really understand it myself XD |
| 20:35.26 | Ellipsis | for damage done, that is |
| 20:35.44 | Recluse | works fine for me as of last night... |
| 20:36.55 | ag` | Vrei sã pleci dar nu-mã, nu-mã iei |
| 20:37.02 | ag` | Nu-mã, nu-mã iei, nu-mã, nu-mã, nu-mã iei |
| 20:37.07 | NeoTron | So the eternal question, it seems. Anyone know of a replacement to the dot timer aspect of DoTimer? One that keeps track of targets you aren't targeting, and uses the blizzard debuff API to update targets, and uses gender/name/level/symbol to distinguish between mobs? |
| 20:37.26 | NeoTron | that doesn't have all the sync stuff, cooldowns, player buff stuff etc and that isn't a complete CPU hog |
| 20:37.34 | MentalPower | ~lart ag` |
| 20:37.34 | purl | takes large quantities of Krispy Kream donuts and stuffs them one after another down ag`'s throat until ag` puts on 150lbs |
| 20:37.44 | Mecdemort | you can trim down a lot of DoTimer now |
| 20:37.51 | NeoTron | Quartz and DoTimer doesn't fulfill it |
| 20:37.52 | ag` | noooo |
| 20:38.04 | NeoTron | Mecdemort: DoTimer itself, tracking of dots without the other stuff, is ineffective |
| 20:38.15 | NeoTron | when profiling CPU, it was clearly on top |
| 20:38.21 | NeoTron | just me and one mob.. |
| 20:38.32 | Ellipsis | this is really strange o.O |
| 20:38.34 | alext | good luck finding a better one ;X |
| 20:38.49 | Ellipsis | the person listed as top DPS is not listed at all in damage done |
| 20:38.56 | alext | used a mess of dot tracking addons and dotimer still the best i have found |
| 20:39.03 | NeoTron | it DOES work |
| 20:39.05 | NeoTron | most of the time |
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| 20:39.32 | NeoTron | the other thing is when he forced everyone to use another much worse/less compact layout somewhere in the 3.0 series |
| 20:39.35 | NeoTron | that bugged me |
| 20:39.39 | alext | if your using the latest dotimer, it doesnt "sync" anymore |
| 20:39.51 | alext | you can just delete the cooldown / playbuff folder and they wont load |
| 20:39.59 | NeoTron | I don't have those loaded |
| 20:40.11 | NeoTron | as I said, the architecture itself is badly written |
| 20:40.12 | alext | i think all you need is ash_dotimer |
| 20:40.14 | mikma | ag`: numanumanuma iei |
| 20:40.14 | alext | and maybe ash_core |
| 20:40.21 | NeoTron | that is all I have |
| 20:40.26 | alext | cool |
| 20:40.40 | alext | well i was just sayin thats how you minimize its impact, but i havent found anything better |
| 20:40.55 | ag` | mikma, Chipul tãu si dragostea din tei |
| 20:41.46 | NeoTron | heh |
| 20:41.47 | NeoTron | well |
| 20:41.51 | NeoTron | the impact is running it at all |
| 20:41.54 | Xelopheris | anyone having a problem with antagonist anchors not saving position properly on widescreen monitors since 2.2 ? |
| 20:42.00 | NeoTron | I'm nto sure how it's as ineffective as it is |
| 20:42.03 | mikma | ag`: maia hii, maia hoo |
| 20:42.16 | ag` | Ma-ia haha |
| 20:42.24 | alext | it might be hogging resources but at least on my box, i havent seen a big impact |
| 20:42.48 | alext | i have raided with dotimer on and with dotimer off and I dont notice any playability differences, then again its my computer not yours or anyone elses |
| 20:42.57 | alext | dotimer off as in removed from the interface folder |
| 20:43.03 | miyakeke | xelo: not antagonist but... proximo |
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| 20:43.30 | magoo | hello |
| 20:43.38 | Xelopheris | hrm, I haven't arenad since 2.2 (my teammate is on a track meet atm) so I haven't been able to test proximo |
| 20:43.45 | alext | neotron are you a lock? |
| 20:43.48 | miyakeke | one sec and ill give you a link to some info |
| 20:43.52 | alext | theres something else that might work for you |
| 20:44.33 | NeoTron | I am |
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| 20:44.42 | alext | tryin to find the link |
| 20:44.47 | alext | addon is "fortelock" |
| 20:44.49 | NeoTron | I profiled it |
| 20:44.50 | durcyn | does DoTimer still try to send out an addon message for every cooldown every second? |
| 20:44.51 | alext | made by a warlock in that guild |
| 20:44.56 | alext | durcyn: no |
| 20:44.59 | miyakeke | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=2215493430&sid=1 <-- look into that as why your frames are moving off screen |
| 20:45.01 | alext | not if you are running the latest |
| 20:45.24 | miyakeke | specifically, look at post #2 |
| 20:45.37 | alext | netron: if your on for at least the next 30 minutes, i will be home around then and will link you too it |
| 20:45.47 | alext | theres a dot timing component in the addon |
| 20:45.54 | alext | never used it myself though |
| 20:46.20 | alext | oh wait |
| 20:46.25 | alext | yeah here it is |
| 20:46.26 | alext | http://www.fortegaming.com/forums/viewtopic.php?id=31 |
| 20:46.49 | Xelopheris | necrosis is also pretty good if you can spare a poorly coded addon's memory requirements |
| 20:46.50 | NeoTron | yeah already found it |
| 20:46.54 | NeoTron | forte warlock |
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| 20:47.03 | alext | well make sure the link is http://www.fortegaming.com/forums/viewtopic.php?id=31 |
| 20:47.06 | alext | thats the only official link |
| 20:47.13 | NeoTron | I dropped necrosis some tiem ago because it also pretty much sucks :P |
| 20:47.14 | alext | look at the "spell timer" description |
| 20:47.14 | kebinusan | fortewarlock is nice feature wise, I have some performance issues running it tho |
| 20:47.16 | alext | thats the dot part |
| 20:47.20 | kebinusan | seems to bog the piss out of my machine |
| 20:47.28 | alext | doesnt hurt mine thankfully |
| 20:47.36 | kebinusan | I like the logarithmic cooldown bar tho |
| 20:48.03 | Xelopheris | How well does ForteWarlock deal with [target=mouseover] DoT macros on same-named mobs? |
| 20:48.17 | [Ammo] | fortewarlock is very poorly written |
| 20:48.19 | NeoTron | maybe |
| 20:48.23 | Xelopheris | 'cause that makes just about any DoTimer I know explode |
| 20:48.29 | [Ammo] | Xus should know better but meh |
| 20:48.31 | NeoTron | I will just see if I can make a performance evaluation / patch for dotimer |
| 20:48.47 | kebinusan | ammo, yeah I dont like how it tries to do everything either like watching ora cooldowns |
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| 20:48.59 | alext | Xelopheris: no idea |
| 20:49.02 | kebinusan | the cooldown bar is nice tho, I like having one bar for all cooldowns |
| 20:49.10 | [Ammo] | kebinusan: not only that it spams the addon channel with healthstone /raitem checks |
| 20:49.17 | [Ammo] | damn I missed Ag |
| 20:49.18 | [Ammo] | shit |
| 20:49.34 | kebinusan | eww |
| 20:49.45 | [Ammo] | kebinusan: give a fortewarlock user an assist and that's how it finds healthstones |
| 20:49.45 | alext | ammo: you should put all your time into necronomicon2 and make it the only warlock addon anyone needs ;] |
| 20:49.58 | [Ammo] | alext: it's all I ever need atm |
| 20:50.07 | [Ammo] | so it doesn't need more time |
| 20:50.07 | Xelopheris | There's some extent of 'warlock addons' that it can do everything. I remember when Necrosis was the shits back when i ran BWL on my lock... |
| 20:50.14 | alext | yeah well i ment for everyone not just you |
| 20:50.57 | ag`_ | Hey [Ammo] |
| 20:51.04 | NeoTron | I want DoTimer to look like this old screenshot: http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/full8019.jpg |
| 20:51.11 | alext | would be nice just to have a really efficient "DotTimer" |
| 20:51.19 | ag`_ | did you have trouble with frames not updating yesterday, and if you did, does it work fine now? |
| 20:51.20 | NeoTron | unfortunately now he puts the names under its bars and put the raid icon centered right on top of the name text |
| 20:51.45 | alext | NeoTron: the name stuff was fixed |
| 20:51.48 | alext | not the raid icon |
| 20:51.49 | [Ammo] | I did have trouble |
| 20:51.53 | alext | but you can make the names above or below the bars |
| 20:51.57 | alext | left or right of the bars |
| 20:51.58 | [Ammo] | did you patch it ag? |
| 20:52.02 | ag`_ | yes [Ammo] |
| 20:52.05 | ag`_ | how does it work now? |
| 20:52.11 | [Ammo] | I will have to try |
| 20:52.14 | NeoTron | alext: really? when was that fixed? |
| 20:52.15 | ag`_ | okay |
| 20:52.20 | [Ammo] | it didn't update correctly when leadership was passed |
| 20:52.23 | alext | within the past release or two |
| 20:52.31 | ag`_ | I was really fucked actually |
| 20:52.34 | alext | i was messing around with my ui and it worked fine |
| 20:52.38 | ag`_ | I mean it was |
| 20:52.40 | alext | the raid target icon is still in the middle of the text |
| 20:52.47 | ag`_ | however it should work ok now |
| 20:52.48 | alext | but the positioning is ok |
| 20:52.51 | ag`_ | stupid secure headers |
| 20:52.58 | ag`_ | tell me who made them |
| 20:53.18 | Xelopheris | the same people who made chromaggus >.> |
| 20:53.34 | NeoTron | ok at least I can fix that fuckup. |
| 20:53.46 | NeoTron | see if the raid icon positioning can be made non-stupid too |
| 20:54.00 | NeoTron | who would ever think it's a good idea to put it centered on the text/ :P |
| 20:54.20 | alext | heh |
| 20:54.33 | Grum | <Industrial> Grum: its a public repository, I can fork whatever I want <-- depends under what regulations i'll release my code |
| 20:55.04 | Recluse | [Ammo]: Just wanted to point out the description on Violation[Damage] is not quite the right one (for next time you commit for something important lol) |
| 20:55.58 | CIA-12 | 03cncfanatics * r51076 10FlexBar2/ (Core.lua Highlighting/Highlighting.lua): |
| 20:55.58 | CIA-12 | FlexBar2: |
| 20:55.58 | CIA-12 | - Name is now an optional argument when initializing the button class. If name |
| 20:55.58 | CIA-12 | is not supplied settings will not be saved through sessions. As a result, third |
| 20:55.58 | CIA-12 | party addons should now be able to easely create buttons they need on the fly |
| 20:55.58 | CIA-12 | without having to worry about flexbar restoring settings |
| 20:56.00 | CIA-12 | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:56.52 | Xelopheris | speaking of raid icons... anyone wanna take this one up? Addon that allows you to keybind two keys (let's say mousewheel up and mousewheel down) to cycle through raid icons on your current target. Holds memory of which raid icons are currently in use (clearing upon a mobdeath). Marketable? |
| 20:57.07 | Korben | hey guys and girls got a question |
| 20:57.38 | Korben | is there a addon program that gives u like a web page with combat statistics ? |
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| 20:58.04 | CIA-12 | 03stan * r51077 10simpleMinimap/modules/coords.lua: |
| 20:58.04 | CIA-12 | simpleMinimap: |
| 20:58.04 | CIA-12 | - deDe fix |
| 20:58.12 | Trell_ | erm |
| 20:58.13 | Trell_ | ..\AddOns\AtlasLoot_OldInstances\original.en.lua line 4318: '}' expected (to close '{' at line 4312) near '{' |
| 20:58.15 | Korben | like it logs the combat log and then u can use that file with some prog to make a web page |
| 20:58.18 | Trell_ | after updating and logging in |
| 20:58.23 | Xelopheris | WWS will parse a combat log, Korben. You can use any number of combat log mods to save your log automatically |
| 20:58.31 | Trell_ | and I can't open AtlasLoot for any instances without an error popping |
| 20:58.35 | Xelopheris | http://www.wowwebstats.com (i think) |
| 20:58.51 | Korben | ok simple combat log able to do it ? |
| 20:58.52 | Nandini | would i get in trouble if i posted a hosts file on the forums that sets media.curse-gaming.com to 127.0.0.1? |
| 20:59.11 | Xelopheris | SCL isn't a combat log recorder -- it only changes the output display |
| 20:59.13 | NeoTron | holy crap |
| 20:59.21 | Xelopheris | there's a few good mods listed on the WWS website |
| 20:59.55 | NeoTron | for each timer, when scanning auras, a function is called that scans through all the plaeyrs spells |
| 21:00.28 | Korben | ok |
| 21:00.56 | Xelopheris | Nandini: wowace forums or wow forums? |
| 21:02.17 | Nandini | wowace forums |
| 21:02.27 | Nandini | to help speed up loading of the pages |
| 21:03.04 | Nandini | perhaps setting www.paypal.com to 127.0.0.1 as well |
| 21:03.07 | Korben | Xelopheris do i need to submint the data to them to be hosted as i understand it |
| 21:03.22 | Xelopheris | yes Korben, you upload a combat log and it will parse it into a display |
| 21:03.25 | Nandini | it might be good for forum users to have the choice whether to see those ads and links |
| 21:03.51 | Korben | so i cant link it to a page for my own guild on there server ? |
| 21:04.17 | Xelopheris | no, you can't |
| 21:04.26 | Xelopheris | but you can get self-hosted pages with far less detail |
| 21:05.22 | Xelopheris | nandini: that is ethically theft since the way you 'pay' for that content is in page hits to their ads |
| 21:05.24 | Korben | damn i was looking for something like that but that gives my self a detailed report that i can host my self |
| 21:05.32 | Korben | will give this a try tho |
| 21:05.40 | Nandini | i didn't realize i was required to pay for the content |
| 21:06.05 | Xelopheris | it's purely an ethical point, but as a former website designer, I have a pretty good viewpoint on it |
| 21:06.06 | Nandini | i thought user choice trumps in this community? |
| 21:07.04 | Xelopheris | think of it this way: if you owned wowace.com, and put out terrabytes of bandwidth a month (especially on a patch heavy month), and all you had to pay it back was ads and paypal, and people went and purposely destroyed your ability to get money from ads, you'd get pissed |
| 21:07.17 | Xelopheris | it's a small inconveniance to most people that pays the bills |
| 21:07.54 | Nandini | what if i find it not only to be a small inconvenience, but also personally offensive? should my only choice be to stop using wowace.com? |
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| 21:08.19 | cncfanatics | Nandini, if u've falled that low, YES |
| 21:09.03 | Nandini | would it logically follow that if i found donation links in software to be offensive, my only choice should be to stop using that software? |
| 21:09.19 | cncfanatics | yes |
| 21:09.27 | Xelopheris | yes |
| 21:09.34 | Nandini | okay, just checking :) |
| 21:09.40 | Vangual | you have to ask yourself that question? |
| 21:09.51 | Nandini | no, i had to ask OTHERS that question. |
| 21:10.06 | Nandini | just to help clarify my own opinion |
| 21:10.43 | Xelopheris | But really... noscript > bandwidth heavy flash ads |
| 21:10.55 | Shadowed | having a web site > having no website due to everyone blocking ads |
| 21:11.27 | Nandini | having an addon < having no addon due to everyone blocking donation links? |
| 21:11.33 | cncfanatics | Nandini, who cares ? |
| 21:11.38 | cncfanatics | I have an addon wether u use it or not |
| 21:11.41 | cncfanatics | if u wanne use it, good for you |
| 21:11.48 | cncfanatics | if you don't, good for you too |
| 21:11.58 | cncfanatics | I don't care if u use my stuff or not :p I code for myself hoping others find it useful too |
| 21:12.45 | cncfanatics | and I doubt Scrooge will be able to keep blocking links for long anyway |
| 21:12.54 | Xelopheris | when i code for myself GUI users everywhere cry :( I actually do most of my pitbull editing in the actual savedvariables file lately |
| 21:13.06 | cncfanatics | Xelopheris, I do only slashcommands :p |
| 21:13.19 | cncfanatics | people use it, so guess its good enough |
| 21:13.36 | Xinhuan | i have an interesting question |
| 21:13.37 | Xelopheris | WTB dewdrop back for pitbull |
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| 21:13.40 | Nandini | i'm just considering whether or not i would want to install scrooge in order to disable sending talent specs |
| 21:14.01 | Shadowed | I can give you the code to disable it in 5 seconds if you want to run standalone rock |
| 21:14.12 | Nandini | i had already done it in RockComm |
| 21:14.14 | orionshock | or you can go in and disable it in rock |
| 21:14.30 | Shadowed | You mean, disable it in Rock with the option thats enabled by default and hackish SV used |
| 21:14.38 | Xinhuan | Suppose i have a N-by-N array, arranged in the form t[a][b] (where a and b are integers from 1 to N), is it faster access to read/write to them in t[a][b] form, or t[a*N-b] form? |
| 21:14.41 | cncfanatics | u can disable it, so why complain ? :p |
| 21:14.47 | orionshock | regardless - the option is there |
| 21:15.03 | Xelopheris | Xinhuan, incrimenting B first |
| 21:15.08 | Nandini | but I hate having to update everything myself, and i thought perhaps i would rely on the work of others to do it for me |
| 21:15.16 | Xinhuan | Xelopheris: your reply needs elaboration |
| 21:15.47 | Xinhuan | t[a*N-b] gives a unique index between 0 to (N^2-1) btw |
| 21:16.10 | Xelopheris | k, in memory, it will be a1b1, a1b2, a1b3, a1bn, a2b1, a2b2, a2b3 etc on the stack |
| 21:16.17 | Xinhuan | i'm talking about LUA tables here though |
| 21:16.22 | Xinhuan | not C tables |
| 21:16.48 | Xelopheris | same basis |
| 21:16.50 | Xinhuan | N isn't known until runtime |
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| 21:17.00 | Xinhuan | meaning i can't precreate a table of size N |
| 21:17.04 | Xelopheris | and stacksize is determined at runtime |
| 21:17.15 | Xinhuan | not for LUA |
| 21:17.20 | Xinhuan | at least not the table |
| 21:17.29 | Xinhuan | the memory for the table is in the heap |
| 21:17.51 | Xinhuan | t = {}, for k = 1, N^2 do..... |
| 21:17.57 | Xinhuan | LUA doesn't know your table size |
| 21:18.08 | Xinhuan | there isn't a size constructor |
| 21:18.24 | Xinhuan | t is merely a local memory reference on the stack |
| 21:18.24 | Xelopheris | either way, the second array indicator is linear through memory whereas the first one will incriment by larger values, then decrement by a large amount, then start incrimenting again |
| 21:18.46 | Xinhuan | but that's not really how LUA tables are stored in memory? |
| 21:18.47 | CIA-12 | 03shadowed * r51078 10!Scrooge/ (!Scrooge.toc LibRock-1.0/ README.txt Scrooge.lua): !Scrooge: TOC Updated, see README.txt before using Scrooge. |
| 21:18.48 | orionshock | ping ck |
| 21:18.50 | orionshock | ping ckknight |
| 21:19.00 | Xelopheris | this isn't about allocation, this is about the order it gets loaded into memory |
| 21:19.05 | cncfanatics | Shadowed, can I ask you something ? |
| 21:19.06 | Xinhuan | consider lua tables that don't use numeric indexes |
| 21:19.13 | Shadowed | you could |
| 21:19.21 | Shadowed | not like you have to ask |
| 21:19.34 | cncfanatics | if someone hooked UIParent's OnUpdate script and checked for Scrooge there, could you possibly disable it ? |
| 21:19.38 | Xelopheris | numeric indexes always exist, even if hidden. They're always in memory in a set pattern |
| 21:20.00 | Shadowed | Depends what UIPArent does in OnUpdate |
| 21:20.19 | Xinhuan | you still haven't explained what "incrimenting B first" meant though |
| 21:20.23 | Shadowed | You have to deal with the fact that you have multiple instances loading, and they'd need a way to either update the hook or move the original one |
| 21:20.27 | Shadowed | So yes, you probably could |
| 21:20.42 | cncfanatics | Shadowed, UIParent:HookScript("OnUpdate", I mean |
| 21:20.46 | cncfanatics | how can u even access that ? |
| 21:20.57 | cncfanatics | GetScript returns the original one as far as I know |
| 21:21.02 | cncfanatics | not any of its hooks |
| 21:21.17 | Shadowed | You'd need to do checks still |
| 21:21.22 | Shadowed | which can be faked |
| 21:21.27 | Xelopheris | simple: if you have a 2 dimensional array t[a][b], then reading through it, you do it in a way such as reading t[0][0], t[0][1], t[0][2], ,... t[0][n], t[1][0] |
| 21:21.34 | Xelopheris | because of the order that it is istored in memory |
| 21:21.50 | Xelopheris | tak ean assembly class and you'l learn :) |
| 21:21.54 | Xelopheris | anyhoo, afk supper |
| 21:22.01 | Xinhuan | uh i can code in assembly |
| 21:22.04 | cncfanatics | Shadowed, can't fake RandomSecureFrame.IsShown(DonationButton) can you ? you'd taint the ui by replacing that IsShown |
| 21:22.27 | Xinhuan | and i know how C and Jave and other tables in languages are stored consecutively in memory locations |
| 21:22.30 | Xinhuan | java* |
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| 21:22.41 | Xinhuan | but this doesn't apply to lua? |
| 21:22.45 | Shadowed | Donation buttons aren't always shown, you can't assume that |
| 21:22.57 | Xinhuan | you can't increment a memory address to access the next item |
| 21:22.58 | cncfanatics | check when its suposed to be shown if it is |
| 21:23.09 | Shadowed | Nothing stops you from reparenting/repositioning it either |
| 21:23.20 | Shadowed | in which case, you can disable the flag that wants to know if it's shown |
| 21:23.36 | NeoTron | so how much sense does this make: |
| 21:23.39 | NeoTron | http://ace.pastey.net/74915 |
| 21:23.54 | Shadowed | It's easier to do it if you're just doing an addon, because you can basically make all of it logical. with a library you need to make some things globally accessible to handle upgrading. |
| 21:23.59 | NeoTron | if I read that correctly it will recreate the string on each call? |
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| 21:24.30 | NeoTron | even if it keeps a cached version in-memory |
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| 21:24.30 | Ozguli | mmh. Active channel |
| 21:25.10 | Ozguli | so.. I'm having trouble fixing clearfont2 to work |
| 21:25.37 | Kirkburn | Wow, hadn't even noticed it go up to 330 people |
| 21:26.25 | Ozguli | I didn't pay much attention to anything, how should the folders be in the end? |
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| 21:27.28 | CIA-12 | tekkub-wow: 03tom.wieland * r569 10/trunk/TourGuide/Horde/35_37_Arathi_Highlands.lua: |
| 21:27.28 | CIA-12 | tekkub-wow: TourGuide: |
| 21:27.28 | CIA-12 | tekkub-wow: - Adding the Arathi Highlands (35-37) bit. I will finish this as I complete it. |
| 21:28.03 | Ozguli | oo there's a readme |
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| 21:29.28 | CIA-12 | 03ammo * r51079 10Violation/Damage/Violation_Damage.toc: Violation: the toc desc was apparantly wrong. |
| 21:30.17 | Tinyboom | yay, cryolysis on wau:D |
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| 21:30.41 | Kirkburn | Ozguli, I wrote a readme!? :P |
| 21:31.05 | Ozguli | you |
| 21:31.35 | Tinyboom | Paene: ping |
| 21:31.37 | Ozguli | the fonts are supposed to be in wow\fonts\folder right? |
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| 21:35.51 | NimbleRabit | What does it mean when herbs don't always show up, every once in a while they show up in the wrong zones, and they dissapear when I relog. Using Cart_Herbalism |
| 21:37.13 | Nandini | It usually means that cart_herbs didn't get the message that you changed zones. Next time it happens, make a note of what zone you are in and what zone's nodes it is displaying and post about it on the forums. |
| 21:38.07 | NimbleRabit | It's more like my herb notes are always messing up not just sometimes. Is there any known conflicting addons or something perhaps? |
| 21:38.16 | Nandini | I have that problem sometimes if I have the map open while I'm zoning. I've never seen it happen if I had the map closed. |
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| 21:45.52 | Trell_ | question, the mace from ZF's proc is listed as Thunderclap - why won't it add to ClassTimer manually? |
| 21:46.36 | Trell_ | is it because of the Warrior skill? |
| 21:46.57 | CIA-12 | tekkub-wow: 03tom.wieland * r570 10/trunk/TourGuide/Horde/35_37_Arathi_Highlands.lua: |
| 21:46.57 | CIA-12 | tekkub-wow: TourGuide: |
| 21:46.58 | CIA-12 | tekkub-wow: - 35-37 Arathi Highlands: added all points, no coords yet. |
| 21:47.34 | Ominous | Trell_: what do you mean |
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| 21:48.24 | Trell_ | ok, ClassTimer allows you to add skills in manually |
| 21:49.12 | Trell_ | I tried adding Thunderclap - which seems to be the name of the proc from the Hand of Ant'sul or w/e it's called, from ZF |
| 21:49.18 | Trell_ | but it isn't adding a timer for it. |
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| 21:50.19 | Trell_ | never mind, i'll try it again - it's Thunder <space> Clap |
| 21:51.14 | Ominous | Trell_: ok :) |
| 21:51.47 | Trell_ | working now ;) |
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| 21:54.46 | CIA-12 | 03ckknight * r51080 10LibRock-1.0/LibRock-1.0.lua: LibRock-1.0 - add sanity checks back in |
| 21:55.10 | CIA-12 | 03starinnia * r51081 10Prescription/ (Prescription.lua Prescription.toc): |
| 21:55.10 | CIA-12 | Prescription: |
| 21:55.10 | CIA-12 | - Weapon Buff checks added via Prescription_Pickup |
| 21:55.10 | CIA-12 | - Changed some default options |
| 21:56.57 | CIA-12 | 03starinnia * r51082 10Prescription_Pickup/ (. Core.lua Prescription_Pickup.toc license.txt): |
| 21:56.57 | CIA-12 | Prescription_Pickup: initial commit |
| 21:56.57 | CIA-12 | Allows Prescription to check your weapon buffs |
| 21:57.38 | Thrae | One day, we shall run out of wacky names to call our addons, and all that will be left is "Phelgem" and "Placenta". |
| 21:58.38 | Starinnia | I wonder what those addons would do... |
| 21:59.17 | Ozguli | second one will tell the current place |
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| 21:59.37 | robotusch | the first one would be a JC addon of sorts |
| 22:00.41 | Shadowed | ckknight, you need to validate that the addons with config option is an actual addon and not a fake one since I can hook that, also you're assuming I don't change anything in donate besides hidden or nilling it |
| 22:01.25 | Kemayo | Nah, Placenta would be some sort of guild inventory-data sharing addon. |
| 22:01.33 | Shadowed | Or nilling the donate info once the frame is shown since that's after basically all AL and PL |
| 22:01.49 | Marli | What they should do |
| 22:02.00 | Marli | Is ban anywhere else hosting the addons apart from wowace |
| 22:02.00 | Marli | :e |
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| 22:02.51 | NeoTron | so the addon wars has evolved to the attacker helping the attacked building better defenses? whut? |
| 22:03.15 | CIA-12 | 03starinnia * r51083 10Prescription_Pickup/: Prescription_Pickup: setup externals |
| 22:03.16 | Shadowed | I'm saving myself time from commiting the fix to the block |
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| 22:03.58 | NeoTron | true battle of the minds |
| 22:03.59 | kebinusan | Why dont you commit the fixes to LibRock then patch scrooge, and do the whole cycle yourself |
| 22:04.00 | NeoTron | exciting |
| 22:04.17 | Kemayo | NeoTron: I figure that by this time next week they'll be engaged. |
| 22:04.35 | ckknight | Marli: that's a horrible idea |
| 22:04.48 | [Ammo] | ckknight: any way I can tell jostlelib that the DurabilityFrame is hands off? |
| 22:04.54 | [Ammo] | ckknight: it's messing up an addon of mine |
| 22:05.05 | Nandini | I personally plan on making an addon that changes all donation links to my paypal account. |
| 22:05.12 | [Ammo] | or do I ahve to hook your hook and rip it |
| 22:05.15 | Nandini | I hope it will be popular. |
| 22:05.27 | Shadowed | Because you're not suppose to commit fixes to others addons really |
| 22:05.45 | vhaarr | Shadowed: bullshit |
| 22:05.54 | Shadowed | eh? |
| 22:05.58 | vhaarr | that just applies to chinese and kokreans |
| 22:06.12 | Nandini | I always ask first unless it is a straightforward and obvious typo I am fixing. |
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| 22:06.34 | vhaarr | Shadowed: yeah yeah I know what it says in the rules :P |
| 22:07.06 | NeoTron | kokreans eh? |
| 22:07.06 | Shadowed | i hate you =p |
| 22:07.13 | vhaarr | ^^ |
| 22:07.25 | Nandini | giev kimchi |
| 22:07.26 | Silowyi | orion you around? |
| 22:07.28 | NeoTron | let's hope you won't go fix tpyoes in others cdoe |
| 22:07.29 | Silowyi | poke poke |
| 22:07.31 | NeoTron | :) |
| 22:07.38 | Silowyi | orionshock |
| 22:07.50 | kebinusan | ~poke |
| 22:08.03 | kebinusan | ~poke orionshock |
| 22:08.04 | purl | ACTION cuts down a small tree, sneaks up behind orionshock, pokes orionshock repeatedly, hilarity ensues. |
| 22:09.23 | NeoTron | so a __index entry in a metatable only gets called if the normal lookup fails? |
| 22:09.38 | vhaarr | yes |
| 22:09.42 | NeoTron | ok cool |
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| 22:14.45 | Speeddymon | thanks to whoever fixed the problem with CDT earlier today |
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| 22:17.32 | cncfanatics | cryogen |
| 22:17.36 | CIA-12 | 03ckknight * r51084 10LibRockConfig-1.0/LibRockConfig-1.0.lua: LibRockConfig-1.0 - fix funky issue with inline groups and color controls |
| 22:17.36 | cncfanatics | u just made me waste half an hour |
| 22:18.13 | Trell_ | anyone else got problems with not being able to access any loot in the latest AtlasLoot rev? |
| 22:18.30 | Nandini | this is particularly vexing, didn't the UIParent frame always use to have a set height of 768? now it seems to have changed to a set width of 1024 |
| 22:18.57 | Xinhuan | it has always been 1024x768 AFAIK? |
| 22:19.04 | cryogen | cncfanatics: think of it as a learning experience :p |
| 22:19.19 | Nandini | i thought width was always scaled to height previously, now it seems height is being scaled to width |
| 22:19.23 | Ellipsis | o.O |
| 22:19.33 | cryogen | (sorry) |
| 22:19.36 | Xinhuan | they were never scaled i think |
| 22:19.38 | Ellipsis | interesting, is that the change they made that screwed up our UIs? |
| 22:20.14 | Nandini | it used to be, no matter what resolution you were running, UIParent:GetHeight() would always return 768 |
| 22:20.19 | Xinhuan | GetWIdth() and GetHeight() always returns "UIScaled pixels" |
| 22:20.29 | Xinhuan | in the case of UIParent, its always 1024x768 |
| 22:20.57 | Nandini | my uiparent is now 1024 x 819.200012957 and my UIScale is set to 1.0 |
| 22:21.11 | Nandini | it used to be 960x768 with UIScale set to 1.0 |
| 22:21.20 | Xinhuan | so if a childframe is 100 pixels in width, it will always return 100 for getwidth(), even if UISCale isn't 1 |
| 22:21.30 | CIA-12 | 03cncfanatics * r51085 10FlexBar2/Button/Slashcommands.lua: FlexBar2: Fix bug in /fb setposition |
| 22:21.41 | Nandini | correct, it is 100 scaled screen units in width, always |
| 22:21.53 | Xinhuan | to get the actual number of pixels used on screen, you would have to divide by UIScale, then multiple by the GetScreenWidth() or GetScreenHeight() |
| 22:21.56 | Nandini | however, the UIFrame used to always be 768 scaled screen units tall at UIScale = 1 |
| 22:22.03 | Xinhuan | multiply* |
| 22:22.31 | Nandini | UIParent i mean |
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| 22:25.43 | Gnarfoz | whatever they did, it fucked up many a UI |
| 22:26.01 | Gnarfoz | had to enable scaling and set it to 0.9 and suddenly mostly everything fit again |
| 22:27.10 | ckknight | Gnarfoz: Blizz's 2.2 patch. |
| 22:27.12 | Nandini | no matter what resolution i run at now, GetScreenWidth() always returns 1024 |
| 22:27.26 | Polarina | Gnarfoz: It's a bug. Check out 2.2.3 PTRs, it should be fixed there. |
| 22:27.30 | Nandini | it used to be similar, except GetScreenHeight() always returned 768 |
| 22:27.35 | ckknight | Nandini: it always does that if your UIScale = 1 |
| 22:27.55 | Nandini | the change to scaling by width rather than height for UIScale = 1 is what messed me up |
| 22:27.56 | Ellipsis | so it sounds like they normalized against width instead of height, and screwed up default UI scale while they were at it |
| 22:28.22 | Gnarfoz | Polarina: oh? nice, didn't read anything about that particular issue in 2.2.3 notes |
| 22:29.29 | Speeddymon | is there a function in the blizzard code that will return the name of all the characters on an account that are on the realm you are currently playing? |
| 22:29.44 | Speeddymon | or something to that effect? |
| 22:30.07 | Ellipsis | uh...no, why? |
| 22:30.09 | Speeddymon | or would you have to save each character's name to the db once that character was logged in.. |
| 22:30.15 | Ellipsis | yeah, do that |
| 22:30.39 | Speeddymon | well im trying to find a way to get a list of same-realm characters for an account, so that I can check against it for mailing |
| 22:30.55 | Nandini | it just gets weirder and weirder... if i change to a resolution with (Wide) at the end, it scales by height rather than width again!!! |
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| 22:31.03 | Nandini | for any (Wide) resolution, height is always 768 |
| 22:31.04 | sztanpet | hai |
| 22:31.12 | Nandini | and width is variable |
| 22:31.18 | Ellipsis | Nandini: so you can only get it to scale by width with 1280x1024? |
| 22:31.21 | Speeddymon | hai..? |
| 22:31.28 | Nandini | for non-(Wide) resolutions, width is always 1024, and height is variable |
| 22:31.45 | Ellipsis | well what non-wide resolutions aren't 4:3 other than 1280x1024? o.O |
| 22:32.11 | Nandini | it just seems odd that they would scale in one direction for wide resolutions and the other direction for non-wide resolutions |
| 22:32.29 | Ellipsis | theoretically all non-wide resolutions won't have to scale though |
| 22:32.35 | Ellipsis | because they define "wide" as not 4:3 |
| 22:32.37 | cncfanatics | how to show a timestamp without nickname on wiki ? |
| 22:32.37 | Ellipsis | >_> |
| 22:33.24 | Nandini | true, it's only non-4:3 non-wide resolutions that don't come out 1024x768 |
| 22:34.00 | Nandini | they come out as 1024x[scaled height] whereas they used to come out as [scaled width]x768 |
| 22:34.28 | Ellipsis | yes but |
| 22:34.31 | Ellipsis | like I just asked |
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| 22:34.33 | Ellipsis | isn't there only one of those? |
| 22:34.36 | silentium | Speeddymon: doesnt SendSelf offer exactly that functionality? |
| 22:34.56 | Nandini | it was so much nicer before, since 1280x1024 came out as 960x768 |
| 22:35.10 | Nandini | now it comes out as 1024x800.someweirddecimal |
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| 22:35.25 | silentium | Speeddymon: it even offers a "timeout" setting (in days) to automatically remove characters you havent logged for a while |
| 22:35.36 | Ellipsis | I think I'm going to stop asking questions |
| 22:37.03 | Nandini | i wonder if everything will explode if i set uiScale CVAR to 1.25 |
| 22:37.10 | Saint-N | http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info7517-HelloKittyIslandAdventure.html <-- Hello(kitty)ween edition! |
| 22:38.00 | Nandini | ooh it didn't explode, now a screen unit EXACTLY matches a pixel on my screen |
| 22:38.52 | Nandini | doh i was wrong, it gave me 1500x1200 for GSW and GSH lol |
| 22:38.54 | Xelopheris | I actually have a guildy that went and custom designed ALL her textures to be hello kitty >< |
| 22:39.12 | Saint-N | wow thats kind of wrong ;) |
| 22:39.18 | CIA-12 | 03oridan * r51086 10SpellReminder/ (SpellReminder.lua SpellReminder.toc): |
| 22:39.18 | CIA-12 | SpellReminder: |
| 22:39.18 | CIA-12 | - fixed a bug with spells losing their settings |
| 22:39.18 | CIA-12 | - reordered some init |
| 22:39.32 | Saint-N | i stopped modding the blizz frames cuz it was driving me crazy |
| 22:39.33 | Xelopheris | yeah. She posted her UI once on the wow forums. She got laughed at for about four pages |
| 22:39.44 | Nandini | you would think that if before it was 1024x800, changing uiScale to 1.25 would make it 1280x1024, but it does not |
| 22:39.46 | Saint-N | hehe tell her to send me the art |
| 22:40.09 | robotusch | http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/full9261.jpg <- omg I want that! |
| 22:40.23 | Xelopheris | haha, if she still has it :) The guild pretty much said "no more frapsing until you get the fuck rid of hello kitty" and it disappeared |
| 22:40.27 | robotusch | it's brilliant! |
| 22:40.41 | Ellipsis | Nandini - isn't that because it used to be .9, not 1? |
| 22:40.44 | Saint-N | Xelopheris: here's hoping... i personally want to see more high end frapsing WITH it ;) |
| 22:40.45 | robotusch | "I logged in just to say that this, right here, is the best user interface EVER MADE.....EVER!" xD |
| 22:41.16 | Xelopheris | *shudder* As long as you don't combine a hello kitty ui with brewfest goggles in like, the illidary council, I'll be good |
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| 22:41.22 | Saint-N | robotusch: heh yeah i even got mentioned on http://hellokittylife.com ;) |
| 22:41.33 | Xelopheris | actually, tidewalker with brewfest goggles. All the murlocs... |
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| 22:41.45 | Saint-N | do the goggles actually do stuff? |
| 22:41.49 | Saint-N | or just make things blurry |
| 22:41.56 | Xelopheris | they turn humanoids into gnomes |
| 22:41.59 | robotusch | transform things to gnomes/female orcs iirc |
| 22:42.10 | Saint-N | nice |
| 22:42.17 | Xelopheris | kinda weird <<-- tauren druid, and 'i got gnomes out of mine |
| 22:42.24 | Xelopheris | but brewfest is also bugfest |
| 22:42.45 | Saint-N | yeah right now if you didnt exploit the dark irons you prolly wont get a ram mount |
| 22:43.14 | robotusch | only gonna bother with the clothing for my d0rf |
| 22:43.29 | robotusch | he's perfectly satisfied with his green mechanostrider mount :]! |
| 22:43.35 | Ackis | Saint, you can get 100 tickets a day easily |
| 22:43.51 | Xelopheris | I won't get the ram mount from combination of 1) going home for thanksgiving weekend, and 2: none of the quests working for me (apple barrels are broken on my server, blizzard isn't admitting it) |
| 22:44.22 | Saint-N | Ackis: how? |
| 22:44.25 | robotusch | thank goodness for not having thanksgiving overhere ;D |
| 22:44.49 | Saint-N | elkk hunting for 40, and 15 or 30(there abouts) for the ram racing |
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| 22:44.56 | Xelopheris | Alliance can make a good 50 just doing keg runs, horde best I've seen is 35 |
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| 22:45.14 | Xelopheris | barking if it isn't broken, saint |
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| 22:45.18 | Saint-N | Xelopheris: hehe im gonna go to iron forge then |
| 22:45.20 | Ackis | Saint: Do the daily twice a day (it resets), that's 40 each one for 80, then do the racing twice a day (it also resest) for 30 each pop (you can do 10 rounds in the time alloted, 11 if you're really good) |
| 22:45.36 | Saint-N | which daily? |
| 22:45.40 | Saint-N | the elkk one is once a day |
| 22:45.50 | Ackis | the daily quest where you go to town and bark around |
| 22:45.56 | Saint-N | thats broken |
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| 22:46.02 | NightHawkTheSane | it hasn't been for me |
| 22:46.10 | Ackis | it was broken for a few hours on my server but they had fixed it |
| 22:46.14 | Saint-N | has been since they removed the dark iron event on my server |
| 22:46.16 | qwesto | The elekk one is not a daily. |
| 22:46.16 | robotusch | at least I got the BRD quest going |
| 22:46.18 | NightHawkTheSane | and the elekk quest is a daily? i havn't seen it availble after i did it once |
| 22:46.26 | Ackis | the elekk isn't daily |
| 22:46.32 | Saint-N | ive done it 3 times |
| 22:46.38 | Saint-N | so i'm guessing its daily |
| 22:46.38 | Ackis | really? |
| 22:46.40 | Saint-N | yeah |
| 22:46.47 | Saint-N | course i usually play after midnight |
| 22:46.50 | NightHawkTheSane | i imagine -thats- broken |
| 22:46.51 | Ackis | it's not daily for us, i'll have to check again |
| 22:46.53 | Xelopheris | the elekk quest is daily unless you're leevl 70 |
| 22:46.57 | Saint-N | its only available between 12am and 6am server |
| 22:47.13 | qwesto | they've resetted the quest because some players couldn't pick it up, that's why some have done it more than once |
| 22:47.14 | sztanpet | ckknight fix the profile copying issue pretty please |
| 22:47.24 | robotusch | barking, elekk & DI - all gone on my realm :< |
| 22:47.26 | Saint-N | oh well im going home lates |
| 22:47.43 | Kaydeethree | new PTR build: 7359. no UI changes |
| 22:47.52 | ckknight | sztanpet: but there are so many other issues |
| 22:47.53 | robotusch | yay, 15% on the tbc install >_< |
| 22:48.05 | CIA-12 | 03oridan * r51087 10SpellReminder/ (SpellReminder.lua SpellReminder.toc): |
| 22:48.05 | CIA-12 | SpellReminder: |
| 22:48.05 | CIA-12 | - fixed debuff colouring |
| 22:48.05 | sztanpet | none so important tho! :D |
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| 22:51.02 | robotusch | btw, what did the /wave thing do? |
| 22:51.30 | robotusch | Got loads of people on my ignore list, since they were using /wave macros |
| 22:51.50 | sztanpet | they got that throwable dring thing |
| 22:51.56 | Speeddymon | silentium: i never saw that one before, i'll look, however sendself is still at interface 20100 |
| 22:52.13 | sztanpet | drink |
| 22:52.28 | robotusch | they got more than one or? |
| 22:52.29 | Kemayo | Speeddymon: It works. |
| 22:59.10 | cryogen | cncfanatics: so..i can hook the buffgain/lost events, but UPDATE doesnt seem to trigger |
| 22:59.39 | cncfanatics | cryogen, namespace of UPDATE is FlexBar2_EventManager |
| 22:59.50 | cncfanatics | AddEventListener("FlexBar2_EventManager", "UPDATE", funcstuff); |
| 23:00.31 | cryogen | self:AddEventListener("FlexBar2_EventManager", "UPDATE", "UpdateDuration"); |
| 23:00.37 | cryogen | sorry about the msg, tabs ftl :p |
| 23:03.32 | cryogen | yay, works :) |
| 23:03.33 | breser | Does the person ersponsible for Quartz ever show up around here? |
| 23:03.51 | breser | s/ersponsible/responsible/ |
| 23:03.52 | cncfanatics | cryogen, commit it, faast :p |
| 23:05.00 | cryogen | still dont have my account :( |
| 23:05.11 | NightHawkTheSane | breser: a) that's nymbia. b.. |
| 23:05.13 | NightHawkTheSane | ~seen nymbia |
| 23:05.15 | purl | nymbia <n=nymbia@71-218-140-232.hlrn.qwest.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 2d 20h 27m 13s ago, saying: 'not like more than half of warriors have tanked anything more than a 5 man'. |
| 23:05.15 | cryogen | this is so freaking cool btw :) |
| 23:05.26 | cryogen | gonna tidy it up now |
| 23:05.30 | cncfanatics | cryogen, its easy to make modules for it eh ? :) |
| 23:05.56 | breser | Guess I'll just toss this patch at him via email then. |
| 23:06.28 | cryogen | indeed |
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| 23:07.59 | Ominous | cncfanatics: is there any gui for flexbar2 or just slash commands? |
| 23:08.53 | cryogen | haha, this is great |
| 23:09.07 | cryogen | just one thing, im still suffering from $(buffdur) on all my buttons by default |
| 23:09.13 | cncfanatics | Ominous, slashcimmands atm |
| 23:09.16 | cryogen | havent figured out how to force a refresh on them all yet |
| 23:09.24 | cncfanatics | hmmm |
| 23:09.36 | cncfanatics | what u return if there's nothing to show ? |
| 23:09.39 | cncfanatics | nil or "" ? |
| 23:09.40 | cryogen | TextSubs:UpdateTextSub("buffdur") throws an error in the TextSubs module |
| 23:09.41 | cryogen | "" |
| 23:09.52 | cncfanatics | what it says ? |
| 23:09.53 | RogueShadow | Hello people |
| 23:10.10 | RogueShadow | I didn't miss any drama did I? ;) |
| 23:10.39 | cryogen | Message: ..\AddOns\FlexBar2_TextSubs\TextSubs.lua line 21: |
| 23:10.40 | cryogen | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:11.16 | cncfanatics | lol ? |
| 23:11.23 | cryogen | dont ask me :) |
| 23:11.39 | cncfanatics | either way, subs shld be updated when u register ur sub anyway |
| 23:11.51 | cncfanatics | so shldnt be needed |
| 23:12.14 | cryogen | doesnt seem to tho |
| 23:12.27 | cncfanatics | cryogen, gimme ur code |
| 23:12.30 | Xelopheris | yay! feral pvp items will appear in season 3 (capes/rings/neck) :) |
| 23:12.35 | cncfanatics | I'll fix ur stuff if needed and my stuff if needed |
| 23:12.54 | Kuja^ | ~plua |
| 23:13.08 | Kuja^ | damn, forgot about that one |
| 23:13.14 | ckknight | RogueShadow: sorry, you did |
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| 23:13.51 | cryogen | cncfanatics: http://ace.pastey.net/74918 |
| 23:14.57 | CIA-12 | tekkub-wow: 03tom.wieland * r571 10/trunk/TourGuide/Horde/35_37_Arathi_Highlands.lua: |
| 23:14.57 | CIA-12 | tekkub-wow: TourGuide: |
| 23:14.57 | CIA-12 | tekkub-wow: - Finished Joana's - Arathi Highlands (35-37) |
| 23:15.00 | RogueShadow | ckknight, I'ts ok, I'll find the logs and read |
| 23:15.10 | ckknight | you do that |
| 23:15.35 | cryogen | cncfanatics: http://ace.pastey.net/74919 is the toc |
| 23:15.36 | RogueShadow | ckknight, I went to work, had some thoughts about the whole drama thing... hmmm.. solutions hopefully. *yeah right* well things that would more likely please clad than scrooge people |
| 23:15.57 | cncfanatics | cryogen, just pasted it at the bottom of textsubs.lua |
| 23:15.57 | RogueShadow | but I really don't know all his beef's with rock |
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| 23:16.02 | cncfanatics | if it works there it'll work standalone too |
| 23:16.10 | aestil | I return |
| 23:16.12 | cryogen | kk |
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| 23:17.43 | cncfanatics | cryogen, meh |
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| 23:18.14 | cryogen | you see what i mean? |
| 23:18.25 | cncfanatics | yea |
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| 23:21.16 | CIA-12 | 03speeddymon * r51088 10Postman/Postman.lua: |
| 23:21.16 | CIA-12 | Postman: |
| 23:21.16 | CIA-12 | - First of commite to get Postman to properly notify mail receipt for your alts |
| 23:21.23 | Speeddymon | damnit! typo |
| 23:22.26 | kebinusan | your first commit typo logged for eternity |
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| 23:23.56 | Astika | i know i'm all late, but 1280x1024 is not 4:3, it's 5:4 ;) |
| 23:24.26 | Speeddymon | anyone know if you can mail opposite faction members on PvE servers? |
| 23:24.37 | Ellipsis | you can't |
| 23:24.48 | Nandini | yes, that's what gives it the undesirable fractional screenheight at uiScale "1.0" |
| 23:24.51 | Speeddymon | how bout on same account? |
| 23:24.57 | Ellipsis | still can't |
| 23:25.03 | Speeddymon | kk thx Ellipsis |
| 23:25.07 | Ellipsis | np |
| 23:26.18 | Nandini | you also can't buy your own auctions at the neutral AH |
| 23:27.32 | kenlyric | yes, transferring stuff is time consuming and expensive. |
| 23:27.56 | Ellipsis | yeah, very |
| 23:28.09 | kenlyric | 15% nuetral AH cut on 1100g :( |
| 23:28.10 | Astika | why is it when i change resolutions, frames still show same GetPoint info (even between wide/non-wide) is it because it's scaling to that res? |
| 23:28.10 | Xinhuan | i personally haven't seen a single difference about my UI scaling |
| 23:28.13 | Xinhuan | before/after the patch |
| 23:28.23 | Xinhuan | but then i've been using a UIScale of exactly 0.9 for two years |
| 23:28.27 | Xinhuan | conincidence? |
| 23:28.31 | cncfanatics | cryogen, fixed |
| 23:28.35 | cncfanatics | comitting, it was my code not urs |
| 23:28.42 | Ellipsis | Xinhuan has psychic powers imo |
| 23:28.57 | aestil | H to the izzo. |
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| 23:29.16 | CIA-12 | 03cncfanatics * r51089 10FlexBar2/ (Slashcommands.lua TextSubs/TextSubs.lua): |
| 23:29.16 | CIA-12 | FlexBar2: |
| 23:29.16 | CIA-12 | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:29.31 | todd | there shouldn't be any problem changing eepanels settings with rockconfig should there? |
| 23:29.36 | Ellipsis | ...no |
| 23:29.38 | aestil | no. |
| 23:29.42 | Astika | nope |
| 23:29.45 | aestil | i have succesfully done that more than once. |
| 23:29.54 | aestil | Ellipsis: witness? |
| 23:29.58 | Ellipsis | nod |
| 23:30.03 | aestil | nod |
| 23:30.07 | Astika | i have done it successfully more than aestil |
| 23:30.10 | todd | trying it now, entering an rgb color for a background of a panel, and the panel's color isn't what it should be |
| 23:30.14 | aestil | liez |
| 23:31.14 | Ellipsis | I remember someone saying that a while back |
| 23:31.24 | Astika | die nil frames! |
| 23:31.24 | Ellipsis | but nobody could really figure out why it was happening |
| 23:31.36 | todd | and pure white (255,255,255) shows up as black, while something like 255,255,254 is pretty much white |
| 23:31.49 | todd | but I enter 26,34,37, and it's showing up really dark, like 2,3,2 |
| 23:31.51 | Ellipsis | now that's an interesting one |
| 23:32.29 | Ellipsis | post something on jira about it |
| 23:33.21 | aestil | of course, it would be 2 of the coolest tracks on the black album that kanye west produced. |
| 23:33.26 | cncfanatics | cryogen, u around ? |
| 23:33.30 | cncfanatics | ur code shld work flawlessly |
| 23:33.31 | cryogen | cncfanatics: yup |
| 23:33.38 | cncfanatics | ur code shld work perfect now mate :) |
| 23:33.43 | cryogen | cool |
| 23:33.47 | cryogen | im adding debuffs |
| 23:33.49 | cryogen | its so nice :) |
| 23:34.34 | todd | Ellipsis, under LibRockConfig-1.0 I assume? |
| 23:35.02 | RogueShadow | I've read what I could find, seems I missed nothing but deaf ears hearing loud comments. |
| 23:35.07 | RogueShadow | Nothing is changed |
| 23:36.02 | cncfanatics | cryogen, that as warlock is godly |
| 23:37.26 | Hjalte | cryogen, what are you writing? |
| 23:37.27 | Ellipsis | todd, yeah |
| 23:37.36 | Ellipsis | (sorry for slow response) |
| 23:38.31 | cryogen | Hjalte: a flexbar2 module |
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| 23:38.42 | Corey | whens the gui comin back :D |
| 23:39.53 | cncfanatics | Hjalte, an OWNAGE flexbar module :p |
| 23:40.17 | todd | not 100% sure it's not something I'm doing wrong though =/ |
| 23:40.37 | Corey | for flex that is |
| 23:40.40 | Xinhuan | w00t 11 kegs |
| 23:40.46 | cncfanatics | Corey, when someone writes one |
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| 23:41.25 | cncfanatics | slashcommands are perfectly fine for me Corey |
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| 23:42.15 | CIA-12 | 03ackis * r51090 10AckisRecipeList/ (4 files): |
| 23:42.15 | CIA-12 | AckisRecipeList: |
| 23:42.15 | CIA-12 | - Cooking, enchanting and rogue poison localization added to enUS |
| 23:42.31 | Corey | i find the gui was easier to line things up i could just click the button to see the x/y and paste it into the others |
| 23:42.49 | cncfanatics | Corey, /fb getposition |
| 23:42.58 | cncfanatics | and /fb line is also very helpful |
| 23:43.04 | cncfanatics | u can do the same easely |
| 23:43.45 | Xinhuan | cncfanatics, you should get someone to write the GUI for you |
| 23:43.58 | Xinhuan | 2 ppl working on different parts of the same addon > 1 person ;p |
| 23:44.11 | aestil | ok, vote for the best Kanye West record. |
| 23:44.32 | cncfanatics | Xinhuan, I made a post on the forums about it |
| 23:44.38 | cncfanatics | noone volunteers |
| 23:45.06 | Speeddymon | when the frame opens, it always says alchemy at the top, regardless of what profession it really is |
| 23:45.11 | Xinhuan | because noone understands all your securecode ;p |
| 23:45.21 | Xinhuan | carto_routes is going nicely though :) |
| 23:46.10 | Speeddymon | also, i am using AdvancedTradeSkillWindow for my professions, and the frame doesn't attach to the ATSW frame, so when i move it around, the text doesn't move with it.. |
| 23:46.15 | Speeddymon | mt x2 |
| 23:46.41 | cncfanatics | Xinhuan, u don't have to understand secure code to make a gui for FB |
| 23:46.50 | Xinhuan | try adding a message in the /fb2 help asking for volunteers |
| 23:46.56 | Xinhuan | or the wiki |
| 23:47.02 | cncfanatics | I did on the wiki |
| 23:47.04 | cncfanatics | and on wowace forums |
| 23:49.09 | Stan3 | Speeddymon: try Skillet |
| 23:49.16 | Stan3 | it's ATSW Ace'd |
| 23:49.41 | Trell_ | just 3 manned mandokir and he didn't drop the mount, how rude is that? |
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| 23:49.59 | Xinhuan | did you use the "pathing" hack |
| 23:50.13 | Xinhuan | where you make the raptor evade |
| 23:50.31 | Trell_ | no |
| 23:50.43 | Trell_ | the raptor had despawned by the time we downed mandokir :'( |
| 23:50.59 | Trell_ | me, rogue, druid tank, and resto shammy |
| 23:51.03 | cncfanatics | cryogen, commit :p |
| 23:51.05 | Xinhuan | err he despawns? |
| 23:51.19 | Trell_ | by the time we'd killed mandokir, he was gone |
| 23:51.54 | cryogen | cncfanatics: still no svn :) |
| 23:52.10 | cncfanatics | cryogen, booo :p debuffs work ? |
| 23:52.14 | cryogen | almost |
| 23:52.15 | Stan3 | cryogen: send it to him via mail :D |
| 23:54.04 | cryogen | ive really confused it |
| 23:54.21 | cryogen | i have a debuff from some mob, and its showing a timer for that on my rejuv button :) |
| 23:54.31 | cncfanatics | lol cryogen |
| 23:55.43 | cncfanatics | u unregistering the events & stuff correctly ? :p |
| 23:59.15 | Ironhand | since ScenRaid is no longer being developed and is heavily bugged in WoW 2.2, I'm looking at new DKP addons for my guild. DKPmon looks good but doesn't quite seem to support what we want - can someone recommend what's the best DKPmon module to start from to make a customized solution? We aim to have a fixed-price system with (automated) time-based and kill-based rewards |
| 23:59.17 | CIA-12 | 03ackis * r51091 10AckisRecipeList/AckisRecipeList.lua: |
| 23:59.17 | CIA-12 | AckisRecipeList: |
| 23:59.17 | CIA-12 | - Attempted to add some compatibility with ATSW, hopefully the gui will attach to the ATSW window |
| 23:59.39 | Corey | whats fb line? |
| 23:59.54 | cncfanatics | Corey, read the docu ? |
| 23:59.59 | cncfanatics | http://wowace.com/wiki/FlexBar2_slash_command_reference |
