| 00:00.38 | cladbot | Uhh no |
| 00:00.49 | cladbot | You're the moron hc! |
| 00:01.06 | Xinhuan | rofl |
| 00:01.44 | Xelopheris | I'm just gonna disappear and go grab a coffee now |
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| 00:02.45 | RogueShadow | Anybody like the idea of thier unitframes or/and parts of them fading out to a set amount while not in combat |
| 00:02.55 | orionshock | ? |
| 00:03.04 | orionshock | lua> print(_) |
| 00:03.04 | cladbot | orionshock: nil |
| 00:03.12 | orionshock | ... that's odd tbh |
| 00:03.36 | orionshock | just try it .. if your also ingame, /print _ |
| 00:04.21 | durcyn | 0.962637860774994, orionshock? |
| 00:04.31 | orionshock | _ is a global variable... |
| 00:04.40 | durcyn | =P |
| 00:05.05 | CIA-12 | 03xinhuan 07WIP * r51207 10Cartographer_Routes/Cartographer_Routes/TSP.lua: Cartographer_Routes: Optimize TSP by replacing all t[a][b] references by t[a*N-b] for a NxN table. Results in ~10-20% time reduction and less table garbage to recycle. |
| 00:05.11 | Xinhuan | well, a few million addons out there like to use _ as a dummy variable |
| 00:05.40 | Xinhuan | _, _, _, blah, _, _ = GetItemInfo(blahblah) |
| 00:05.49 | Xinhuan | then they conveniently forget to make _ local ;p |
| 00:06.07 | orionshock | oh but they do... |
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| 00:06.23 | orionshock | local x,y,z .... = GetItemInfo() |
| 00:06.31 | Xinhuan | heaps of addons don't |
| 00:06.51 | orionshock | true.. well time to round up those authors and burn them at the stake |
| 00:06.58 | Xinhuan | so yep, t[a][b] is a few times slower than t[a*N-b] |
| 00:07.25 | orionshock | Xinhuan: arn't those 2 methods doing something entirely different? |
| 00:07.41 | Xinhuan | for my case, i have a NxN table |
| 00:07.48 | Xinhuan | where a and b are integers from 1-N |
| 00:08.02 | Xinhuan | i just need a unique table index for each a/b combination |
| 00:08.27 | Xinhuan | t[a*N-b] gives a unique index between 0 and N²-1 |
| 00:08.58 | Xinhuan | well slightly faster than t[(a-1)*N + b] anyway |
| 00:10.59 | orionshock | .. im trying to get this one addon to reset a list each day... |
| 00:11.32 | orionshock | problem is that ... well dailies reset at 2am not midnight.. :( |
| 00:11.39 | Xinhuan | if (time remaining to new day) > (last checked time remaining to new day) then ResetList() end |
| 00:11.52 | Xinhuan | simple? |
| 00:11.54 | orionshock | no |
| 00:11.55 | Arrowmaster | orionshock: dailies reset at 4am or 5am on my server |
| 00:12.08 | Xinhuan | there is a function that returns the number of seconds left to when the "new day" begins |
| 00:12.12 | orionshock | same applys - they reset "mid"-day not on the day change |
| 00:12.15 | Xinhuan | i'm sure you can find it |
| 00:12.18 | orionshock | Xinhuan: yes |
| 00:12.30 | Arrowmaster | when 2.1 came out that function was bugged |
| 00:12.36 | orionshock | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:12.38 | Arrowmaster | atleast on my server |
| 00:12.40 | Xinhuan | so check this every minute |
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| 00:12.56 | orionshock | lol |
| 00:12.57 | orionshock | no |
| 00:12.59 | Xinhuan | if the number of seconds is larger than when you last checked it, it means a new day has rolled over |
| 00:13.18 | Arrowmaster | the dailies would reset 1 hour after that function said they would |
| 00:13.34 | Xinhuan | but that bug is fixed isn't it Arrowmaster? |
| 00:13.39 | Arrowmaster | no clue |
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| 00:13.49 | Arrowmaster | i dont play at 4-5am that much anymore |
| 00:13.50 | Pkekyo | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=2043944509&pageNo=10&sid=1#196 yay, a warrior buff in the works! |
| 00:13.50 | Xinhuan | because mine is accurate |
| 00:13.57 | Pkekyo | sounds too good to be true though |
| 00:14.02 | Arrowmaster | and i dont do dailies anymore |
| 00:14.08 | Xinhuan | it resets at 4am server time on my server |
| 00:15.00 | siIentium | 3am server time here in EU |
| 00:15.13 | Xinhuan | or even simpler Orion, you can always check "number of dailies you have done today" |
| 00:15.47 | Xinhuan | if (number of dailies done today) < (last checked number of dailies done today) then ResetList() end |
| 00:15.56 | Xinhuan | because when a new day rolls over, it would reset to 0 |
| 00:16.19 | Xinhuan | and if it was already at 0, you wouldn't need to reset it |
| 00:19.28 | orionshock | that's a quite frewent update |
| 00:19.43 | Xinhuan | just check once every minute |
| 00:19.45 | Xinhuan | or 30 seconds |
| 00:19.53 | orionshock | how bout on load |
| 00:19.55 | Xinhuan | set up a repeatingevent |
| 00:19.57 | orionshock | .. that works alot better |
| 00:20.24 | Xinhuan | well, if you don't repeatedly check it, its worthless for players that play across the reset time |
| 00:20.33 | orionshock | :D |
| 00:20.39 | orionshock | i don't so i don't care :D |
| 00:20.42 | Xinhuan | but there should be an event that wow sends when it resets the quests? |
| 00:20.59 | orionshock | ***shitty, on Van @ 62% and alliance win |
| 00:21.29 | Bruners | is it just me that has problems with WAU ? |
| 00:21.37 | orionshock | i bet there is Xinhuan but i don't think anyone cares that much |
| 00:22.04 | Bruners | im getting Error During Download: System.Net.WebException: Unable to connect to the remote server ---> System.Net.Sockets.SocketException: An invalid argument was supplied |
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| 00:22.22 | Xinhuan | for an addon that you are writing, you don't seem to be caring much |
| 00:22.23 | Bruners | and loads of other errors |
| 00:22.44 | Pkekyo | http://www.collegehumor.com/video:1771556 <--- FULL OF WIN AND AWESOME! |
| 00:23.06 | baer_ | orionshock: Van? |
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| 00:23.36 | orionshock | AV |
| 00:24.14 | baer_ | ah |
| 00:26.31 | Pkekyo | Tinyboom: still 'round? |
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| 00:29.32 | CIA-12 | 03hshh * r51208 10CooldownCount/ (4 files): CooldownCount: use secure hook if you don't need hide blizzard origin cooldown animation, it is very safe and less problem, use HideAnimation is unsafe. Never show TargetFrame buff/debuff cooldown value. |
| 00:29.49 | Pkekyo | anyone here pre-ordered thee HL2: Orange Box? |
| 00:31.45 | Hjalte | Pkekyo, having problems paying by Steam? |
| 00:33.22 | Pkekyo | Hjalte: trying to buy orange box, but getting the error message "Specified subscription is invalid" |
| 00:34.04 | mikma | Pkekyo: FIRST! |
| 00:34.33 | Pkekyo | mikma: seeing that you're first and all, how 'bout you reach over here and fondle my balls for a while? |
| 00:34.54 | mikma | Pkekyo: pwned |
| 00:35.11 | Toadkiller | reported! |
| 00:35.15 | Pkekyo | I never should've posted that vid, should I? |
| 00:35.28 | Starinnia | reported for reporting! |
| 00:35.33 | Hjalte | Pkekyo, tried going to steam forums and seeing if anyone else has that problem? |
| 00:35.39 | Pkekyo | Toadkiller: YOU'RE PHOTOSHOPPED! |
| 00:35.45 | MoonWitch | tekkub? |
| 00:35.46 | Zhinjio | svn question... |
| 00:35.47 | mikma | Pkekyo: well pop up a ukulele video and everyone is quiet again |
| 00:35.51 | Pkekyo | Hjalte: aye, tried, kinda hard to figure out this crap :> |
| 00:35.53 | Toadkiller | lol |
| 00:35.56 | Pkekyo | mikma: indeed |
| 00:35.59 | mikma | is MoonWitch still ignoring me |
| 00:36.03 | Toadkiller | Oh wait this isnt wow chat |
| 00:36.09 | Tekkub | what? |
| 00:36.16 | MoonWitch | could I pm you for a moment? |
| 00:36.24 | CIA-12 | 03andyca * r51209 10FuBar_ReagentFu/ReagentFuLocals-zhTW.lua: |
| 00:36.24 | CIA-12 | FuBar_ReagentFu:Added arrow and bullet zhTW localization |
| 00:36.24 | CIA-12 | - |
| 00:36.25 | Zhinjio | I want to create a branch of my code, but there are files/changes that I ultimately am going to want to appear in both branches |
| 00:36.27 | Tekkub | no, flirt with me here |
| 00:36.27 | Seerah | moonwitch! |
| 00:36.31 | Zhinjio | is there an intelligent way to manage that? |
| 00:36.31 | mikma | Tekkub: tell him to pm his ass :D |
| 00:36.35 | Tekkub | why do people ask if they can PM? |
| 00:36.37 | MoonWitch | SEERAH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
| 00:36.41 | Pkekyo | Zhinjio: not really :) |
| 00:36.54 | Pkekyo | FRÅN MIN MAMMA TILL DIN PAPPA |
| 00:37.04 | mikma | knulla min hund |
| 00:37.20 | Toadkiller | Nein, Lumpi ist mein hund |
| 00:37.35 | Toadkiller | Oh man are they chocolate? |
| 00:37.42 | Seerah | too late :( |
| 00:37.45 | Pkekyo | SLICKA MINA PUNGKULOR |
| 00:37.45 | MoonWitch | some are with chocolate |
| 00:38.13 | MoonWitch | you gobble? |
| 00:38.56 | Pkekyo | dunno what does it, but 'gobbling' sounds really fucking kinky |
| 00:39.07 | mikma | MoonWitch: http://www.kuvaton.com/kuvei/hospital.jpg |
| 00:39.29 | CIA-12 | 03mikk 07Alpha * r51210 10Ace3/AceConfig-3.0/ (AceConfig-3.0.lua AceConfigCmd-3.0/AceConfigCmd-3.0.lua): |
| 00:39.29 | CIA-12 | Ace3 - AceConfig: |
| 00:39.29 | CIA-12 | - Non-complete AceConfigCmd for reference |
| 00:39.31 | MoonWitch | ooh kinky ... |
| 00:39.34 | MoonWitch | wait.. nvm |
| 00:40.02 | mikma | http://www.kuvaton.com/kuvei/kissa120.jpg |
| 00:40.47 | Pkekyo | mikma: svenne? |
| 00:40.57 | mikma | Pkekyo: nope |
| 00:41.11 | mikma | i'd say 'finsk' but not sure is it correct |
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| 00:41.49 | Pkekyo | would be correct |
| 00:42.14 | MoonWitch | geesh .. here's cookies for everyone! |
| 00:42.37 | MoonWitch | don't make me break out the country music and shove everyone in a line dancing formation! |
| 00:42.49 | orionshock | well this thread has been deRailed http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=9118.0 |
| 00:42.52 | Pkekyo | thanks, but mommy tought me never to eat stranger's cookies :< |
| 00:43.01 | Pkekyo | MoonWitch: linedancing is full of win and awesome |
| 00:43.11 | mikma | can anyone tell me what's the meaning in this one http://www.kuvaton.com/kuvei/normipaiva48.jpg |
| 00:43.40 | Seerah | sorry orion |
| 00:43.50 | MoonWitch | Seerah didn't want strangers' cookies either :( lol I DO NOT HAVE A VAN people |
| 00:43.50 | Pkekyo | mikma: chances are; you don't wanna know! |
| 00:44.00 | Zhinjio | words fail me. |
| 00:44.01 | orionshock | it's ok Seerah i derailed it |
| 00:44.04 | mikma | Pkekyo: well i've already seen the action |
| 00:44.12 | Seerah | that's right! |
| 00:44.12 | Pkekyo | ofcourse you don't...fucking faggot americans and their modern MINIvans >.< |
| 00:44.24 | MoonWitch | ... |
| 00:44.35 | MoonWitch | I am Belgian ;) |
| 00:45.00 | Pkekyo | now THAT's fucking kinky |
| 00:45.09 | Seerah | oookaaay pkekyo...... |
| 00:45.18 | MoonWitch | you're scaring me Pkekyo |
| 00:45.27 | Nandini | belgian cookies with no van? that hardly seems appropriate. |
| 00:45.38 | Pkekyo | Nandini: I concur |
| 00:45.45 | MoonWitch | Well I don't even have a license, much less a car - let alone a van |
| 00:45.48 | Nandini | bring on the cookie van! |
| 00:45.57 | Pkekyo | Seerah: just be glad you don't know the belgians I know :) |
| 00:45.58 | orionshock | ckknight: this might be an obvious answer.. if my addon only has PC SV's , & do i have to set a perAccount SV in :SetDatabase("") ? |
| 00:46.00 | MoonWitch | I could get Belgian beer :P |
| 00:46.22 | Pkekyo | belgian beer sucks... chezk (spelling?) beer = win |
| 00:46.23 | Nandini | Okay, I'm in. |
| 00:46.38 | Seerah | Pkekyo: I wasn't commenting on the kinky remark - rather the one above it |
| 00:46.42 | hyperChipmunk | czech |
| 00:46.46 | hyperChipmunk | lol |
| 00:47.36 | MoonWitch | seriously, tonight is a wild night it seems |
| 00:47.47 | hyperChipmunk | no, it's nice and calm |
| 00:47.52 | hyperChipmunk | let's keep it that way |
| 00:47.59 | MoonWitch | well at least we're not fighting :) |
| 00:48.02 | hyperChipmunk | #wowace hasn't been this laid-back in weeks |
| 00:48.25 | Seerah | moonwitch: http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=8411.new#new |
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| 00:49.16 | MoonWitch | I just invented the border that needs an additional panel to have a bg :P |
| 00:49.19 | MoonWitch | and thank you Seerah |
| 00:49.43 | Seerah | ??? |
| 00:49.46 | Pkekyo | Seerah: minivans? |
| 00:49.53 | Seerah | yes, pkekyo |
| 00:49.55 | the-golem | invinted a boreder that needs another pannel? |
| 00:50.03 | Pkekyo | ah...well...MINIVANS ARE GAY |
| 00:50.05 | orionshock | i win |
| 00:50.07 | orionshock | http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=9118.new#new |
| 00:50.07 | the-golem | if i could spell |
| 00:50.29 | mikma | Pkekyo: what about minigays? |
| 00:50.40 | Pkekyo | mikma: ? |
| 00:50.48 | Nandini | minigays deserve to have vans, too! |
| 00:50.57 | orionshock | fk i loose, event handler dosn't work :( |
| 00:51.06 | Seerah | back at ya, orion: http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=9118.new#new |
| 00:51.18 | MoonWitch | yeah I posted there too |
| 00:51.30 | mikma | orionshock: function(awww) |
| 00:51.40 | MoonWitch | yall are crazy |
| 00:51.41 | orionshock | Seerah: no... |
| 00:51.46 | orionshock | ~fail Seerah |
| 00:51.46 | purl | Seerah: Fail. |
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| 00:51.57 | Pkekyo | so...anyone know how I can buy this fucking orange box?! |
| 00:52.20 | MoonWitch | http://www.steampowered.com take your credit card |
| 00:52.27 | orionshock | Recycle, Reduce, Reuse -- remember the song? |
| 00:52.36 | Seerah | ~fail orionshock |
| 00:52.36 | purl | orionshock: Fail. |
| 00:52.37 | Seerah | http://www.cln.org/themes/recycle.html |
| 00:53.04 | MoonWitch | you really are a teacher huh? |
| 00:53.14 | Seerah | yep |
| 00:53.20 | MoonWitch | that link proved it |
| 00:53.35 | MoonWitch | what grade do you teach? |
| 00:53.39 | CIA-12 | 03mecdemort * r51211 10BigWigs/Hyjal/HyjalSummit.lua: BigWigs: - Added more accurate times for Kaz'Rogal, Still need Rage Winterchill. Bars disapear if you complete a wave early. |
| 00:53.41 | Seerah | eh, that was just an internet search |
| 00:53.45 | Seerah | (I'm quick) |
| 00:53.54 | MoonWitch | (I noticed) |
| 00:53.55 | the-golem | so |
| 00:53.59 | Seerah | (lol) |
| 00:54.01 | the-golem | the orange box = hl2 mod? |
| 00:54.03 | the-golem | :P |
| 00:54.09 | hyperChipmunk | i remember the 3 Rs! |
| 00:54.22 | Seerah | yay, chipmunk! |
| 00:54.30 | Mecdemort | the orange box = hl2 episode 2, portals, and TFC2 |
| 00:54.36 | hyperChipmunk | yeehaw |
| 00:54.45 | MoonWitch | the-golem, no.. it's HL" episode 2, portal, TF2 and HL2 (and Episode1 too) |
| 00:54.50 | MoonWitch | hl2* |
| 00:54.51 | the-golem | <-- nub, tfc2? |
| 00:54.56 | MoonWitch | team fortress 2 |
| 00:54.58 | Mecdemort | team fortress classic 2 |
| 00:54.58 | Pkekyo | someone help me buy orange box plx? :< |
| 00:54.59 | hyperChipmunk | omg |
| 00:55.05 | MoonWitch | not classic Mecdemort |
| 00:55.07 | the-golem | aaaaaaaaah |
| 00:55.10 | Mecdemort | same diff |
| 00:55.12 | Seerah | moonwitch: graduated with K-12 certification for choral music ed. Currently teach private lessons to all ages |
| 00:55.15 | hyperChipmunk | ~tfc |
| 00:55.15 | purl | well, tfc is Team Fortress Classic, a kick-ass multiplayer mod for Half-Life |
| 00:55.22 | MoonWitch | Pkekyo, get your own money lol |
| 00:55.30 | MoonWitch | I totally agree with purl |
| 00:55.35 | Pkekyo | MoonWitch: it's not the money that's the problem |
| 00:55.38 | hyperChipmunk | ~tfc2 |
| 00:55.40 | Pkekyo | steam won't let me buy the shite |
| 00:55.41 | Mecdemort | im really glad they opted for cartony looks rather than ultra-realistic-but-not-quite-so-it-looks-crappy |
| 00:55.47 | MoonWitch | ~tf2 |
| 00:55.48 | mikma | should change ~tfc to testicle fried chicken |
| 00:55.57 | Pkekyo | Mecdemort: agreed |
| 00:55.58 | MoonWitch | it is TF2! and TFC |
| 00:56.12 | MoonWitch | Seerah, K12 .. isn't that the UK? |
| 00:56.17 | hyperChipmunk | oh, oops |
| 00:56.21 | hyperChipmunk | ~tf |
| 00:56.22 | purl | i heard tf is false |
| 00:56.39 | MoonWitch | Mecdemort, it's just funny as heck |
| 00:56.48 | orionshock | Seerah: SchoolHouse Rock - Recycle Reduce Reuse... |
| 00:57.05 | Mecdemort | it's another reason i like the wii over the others, almost realistic looks a lot worse than purposefully cartoony |
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| 00:57.19 | Seerah | moonwitch: it means I'm capable of teaching Kindergarten through 12th grade |
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| 00:57.27 | Seerah | orionshock: psh! |
| 00:57.36 | MoonWitch | why isn't there a thread/section to just troll? |
| 00:57.45 | hyperChipmunk | that's why wow will never look dated, too |
| 00:57.45 | MoonWitch | Seerah, you scare me then ;) |
| 00:57.55 | orionshock | LOL MoonWitch " /facepalm |
| 00:57.57 | orionshock | /headdesk |
| 00:57.59 | Seerah | that's how they do it in Michigan for music |
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| 00:57.59 | orionshock | /headwall |
| 00:58.01 | orionshock | /walldesk |
| 00:58.11 | hyperChipmunk | /facewall |
| 00:58.12 | Seerah | and art, phys ed, etc |
| 00:58.18 | MoonWitch | usually I add head THROUGH wall to it |
| 00:58.29 | MoonWitch | ah |
| 00:59.04 | MoonWitch | I know very little about the US school system, other then that yall are lucky, you guys can CHOOSE courses.. we just get a package, if you don't like half of it - too bad |
| 00:59.13 | CIA-12 | 03recluse * r51212 10NiHao/NiHao.lua: |
| 00:59.13 | CIA-12 | NiHao: |
| 00:59.13 | CIA-12 | - Add toggle for session startup Paused/Active |
| 00:59.13 | CIA-12 | - Zero out infinite results (if found) |
| 00:59.19 | orionshock | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:59.20 | orionshock | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:59.23 | orionshock | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:59.24 | orionshock | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:59.25 | orionshock | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:59.37 | MoonWitch | and uhm, I would be a -10% on your subject then Seerah |
| 00:59.45 | Arrowmaster | MoonWitch: you talking about highschool? |
| 00:59.56 | Seerah | moonwitch: on music? :) |
| 00:59.58 | Seerah | lol |
| 00:59.58 | MoonWitch | Arrowmaster, yep |
| 01:00.03 | orionshock | but did anyone get the Joke http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=9118.msg147314#msg147314 ? |
| 01:00.15 | hyperChipmunk | orionshock: you can generally use / / to do pseudo-slash commands without the annoying space in front |
| 01:00.17 | MoonWitch | Seerah, I love singing but I am quite bad at it - though sometimes I do ok. |
| 01:00.24 | hyperChipmunk | / /stab |
| 01:00.27 | Arrowmaster | theres not that much choice |
| 01:00.31 | hyperChipmunk | /stab |
| 01:00.51 | Arrowmaster | its just do you want to take this standard basic class or maybe a more advanced one |
| 01:01.08 | Seerah | you don't see the space, though, arrowmaster |
| 01:01.13 | Seerah | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:01.20 | Seerah | oh... that time it showed |
| 01:01.23 | Seerah | whatever :P |
| 01:01.29 | Arrowmaster | huh? |
| 01:01.42 | Seerah | nothing... nothing at all! |
| 01:01.46 | Arrowmaster | what? |
| 01:02.27 | hyperChipmunk | slash-space-slash-action |
| 01:02.41 | CIA-12 | 03xinhuan 07WIP * r51213 10Cartographer_Routes/Cartographer_Routes/Core.lua: Cartographer_Routes: Make RockConfig scroll to the newly created route when creating a new route. |
| 01:02.59 | Pkekyo | sweet! this time, paying with VISA actually worked! |
| 01:02.59 | Pkekyo | orange box, here I come!<3 |
| 01:03.07 | MoonWitch | Arrowmaster, here we can pick a department (General ed, technical (which includes lab - practicums of various subjects) and profession oriented.. ok and art). then we get to opt for branches eg. technical sciences, which includes 5 dutch, 3 french, 3 english, 6 to 8 math, 5 chem + 4 lab chem, 5 physics + 3 lab phys, 3 bio + 2 bio lab, 2 gym, 2religeous ed, 2 geoand 2 history.. |
| 01:03.11 | hyperChipmunk | when a problem comes along, you must WIP it |
| 01:03.22 | Nandini | WIP it good! |
| 01:03.27 | hyperChipmunk | /snicker |
| 01:03.30 | hyperChipmunk | ...and art |
| 01:03.47 | Seerah | Into shape! |
| 01:03.50 | Seerah | ....... |
| 01:03.53 | MoonWitch | and you flunk 1 of 5 hrs or more a week and you can retake the entire year with all the same courses (and contents). 2 of 4hrs a week.. or 3 less. |
| 01:04.40 | Xinhuan | /chuckle |
| 01:05.13 | MoonWitch | only gym and rel ed don't count (needless to say, i've never passed those) |
| 01:05.42 | MoonWitch | for gym, I used to tell the teach to just write down a fail and leave me alone |
| 01:05.43 | Arrowmaster | im trying to think what options i had for highschool |
| 01:06.08 | MoonWitch | Arrowmaster, I will never forget, it was hell... the memories of it still hurt lol.. |
| 01:06.48 | MoonWitch | in case anyone wonders, nope, never graduated high school. I finally gave up trying to hold up to bullies and stayed home. |
| 01:07.12 | Arrowmaster | we were required to have 2 credits of a foreign language (only french and spanish as options), 2 credits of gym (out of a total of 3 classes, one of which almost nobody took) |
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| 01:08.01 | MoonWitch | that's what I do like about the US system, there's options.. we have .. well a pre-set heap of stuff |
| 01:08.31 | Arrowmaster | could opt for advanced placement english, no options really for science other than the ability to skip the first class if the middle school teacher recommended you |
| 01:09.03 | MoonWitch | the only 2 classes I even tested out of was english and math |
| 01:09.24 | Arrowmaster | all the options in the US system is really just the option of what year do you want to take it |
| 01:09.54 | MoonWitch | graduation wise I've graduted English on the highest level high school here has. As for Math, well - the same. I also graduated Geo somehow outside of my knowledge lol. |
| 01:10.33 | MoonWitch | Arrowmaster, follow my line of thoughts here. You have to take a certain level of math, you know it already. You still get to sit in that class here, no chance to move to a higher level. |
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| 01:10.50 | Arrowmaster | i was taking math with seniors my sophomore year |
| 01:10.54 | MoonWitch | It gets boring really fast. Bored students = noisy classroom |
| 01:11.06 | the-golem | lol |
| 01:11.45 | MoonWitch | Arrowmaster, see, here that's impossible. And I hate that. Can you imagine the boredness I felt in English class when the level was all about how to order food and talk about the damn weather? |
| 01:12.10 | Arrowmaster | i was playing solatair most the time on my palm3 during freshman and sophomore years of highschool |
| 01:12.23 | orionshock | help .... |
| 01:12.25 | orionshock | http://shock-wow.googlecode.com/svn/trunk/SickOfClickingDailys/core.lua |
| 01:12.32 | orionshock | event handler borked and don't know why |
| 01:12.33 | MoonWitch | I had games on my graphical calc :P |
| 01:13.12 | Arrowmaster | i wrote games on my graphical calc that most students in the school ended up with |
| 01:13.14 | MoonWitch | orionshock, you lost me after compRicated. Sorry |
| 01:13.19 | Seerah | palms in highschool... you're younger than me, I'm guessing :) games on the TI-83 :) |
| 01:13.47 | MoonWitch | Seerah, how old are you |
| 01:13.47 | orionshock | noob |
| 01:13.47 | Seerah | 27 |
| 01:13.47 | MoonWitch | and I used a TI 83 Silver |
| 01:13.47 | Arrowmaster | im 21 |
| 01:13.53 | MoonWitch | I'm 24 |
| 01:14.12 | the-golem | *koff* |
| 01:14.14 | the-golem | 25 |
| 01:14.37 | Arrowmaster | MoonWitch: whats the primary language at your highschool? |
| 01:14.39 | ag` | TI83+ |
| 01:14.50 | MoonWitch | Arrowmaster, I mainly did science in school, only later on I took Informatics (at that point I didn't give a shit about school anymore, all I know was that I wanted out and away from all the asses) |
| 01:15.01 | MoonWitch | Arrowmaster, Dutch (Flemish to be precise) |
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| 01:15.09 | Arrowmaster | ah |
| 01:15.40 | Arrowmaster | so some people already probably knew some english and others didnt, which is why you got bored with english class |
| 01:15.45 | CIA-12 | 03chuanhsing * r51214 10BigWigs/Hyjal/Winterchill.lua: BigWigs: update zhTW |
| 01:15.53 | baer_ | anybody knows how often the "pure water" spots respawn? |
| 01:16.00 | baer_ | i thought about some timer addon... |
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| 01:16.07 | Arrowmaster | here nobody knew any french or spanish when starting those classes |
| 01:16.18 | MoonWitch | Arrowmaster, naah, I chatted too much and never did mingle with my own language folks :P I had this strange urge to always talk to people from the UK or US |
| 01:16.37 | Arrowmaster | oh lol |
| 01:16.50 | MoonWitch | My pronounciation was crap though, until I started using Voice chat :P |
| 01:17.40 | Arrowmaster | i only did 2 years of highschool with the 'standard' system |
| 01:18.02 | MoonWitch | nice |
| 01:18.25 | MoonWitch | because of the aforementioned retaking year system here, I did my 11th grade about 4 times |
| 01:18.27 | Arrowmaster | junior and senior year i transfered to a vocational school where half of my day for 2 years was spent in one class in a computer lab |
| 01:18.43 | MoonWitch | you need to take the 11th and 12th in the same school + branch |
| 01:18.50 | Arrowmaster | ouch |
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| 01:20.20 | MoonWitch | Arrowmaster, ask yourself how happy you would be going to school if they steal your books, hack into your pc, threaten to beat you up, send you emails with pictures of murdered babies etc |
| 01:20.40 | MoonWitch | you wouldn't go either .. not going = failing classes |
| 01:20.42 | Arrowmaster | i was one of the only people at my vocational school to actually get some choice of other classes since i had already taken all the math classes available and their standard schudule had 2 years of math for everybody |
| 01:20.53 | MoonWitch | lol |
| 01:20.54 | MoonWitch | nice |
| 01:21.53 | Arrowmaster | but all that was was half of 1 year of me failing an online math class because i never did it since it was online, another half a year of me being stuck in some other class i cant even remember what it was |
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| 01:22.24 | Arrowmaster | and 1 year of me going to school 1 class late everyday and going to college at night |
| 01:22.57 | MoonWitch | you can't remember the class? |
| 01:23.06 | MoonWitch | must have been very interesting to you then >.< |
| 01:23.08 | Arrowmaster | that was the best part though since i was late everyday i got to skip all the bullshit meetings from my 'homeschool' as they called it |
| 01:24.10 | Arrowmaster | walked into the middle of the caffateria in the middle of one and people yelled to me "you're late!" as i laughed and said no i'm not seeya |
| 01:25.28 | CIA-12 | 03whitetooth * r51215 10RatingBuster/ (About RatingBuster.txt RatingBuster.lua): |
| 01:25.28 | CIA-12 | RatingBuster: 1.2.6 |
| 01:25.28 | CIA-12 | - Fixed: Ranged AP Calculations |
| 01:26.12 | MoonWitch | sorry .. but I gotta try and focus on Illustrator lol |
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| 01:26.49 | MoonWitch | textures tend to not make themselves :( |
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| 01:34.34 | Sole | FUCK |
| 01:34.40 | Sole | stupid fucking france |
| 01:34.42 | MoonWitch | Sole: what's up |
| 01:34.47 | Silowyi | Recount vs. SwS... discuss? |
| 01:34.48 | Sole | MoonWitch: WE FUCKING LOST |
| 01:34.54 | MoonWitch | Sole: eh? |
| 01:34.55 | Sole | MoonWitch: 20-18 WTF FORWARD TRY WIN |
| 01:35.00 | Sole | WTF WTF WTF |
| 01:35.08 | aestil | SWS has a timeline, recount is better for everything else. |
| 01:35.20 | Silowyi | Sole, what sport? |
| 01:35.23 | Sole | RUBY |
| 01:35.25 | Sole | RUGBY |
| 01:35.27 | Sole | SHIT |
| 01:35.28 | Silowyi | ah |
| 01:35.36 | MoonWitch | .... |
| 01:35.53 | Silowyi | I think more people care about curling then rugby |
| 01:36.01 | MoonWitch | lol |
| 01:36.05 | MoonWitch | Seerah PING |
| 01:37.07 | Sole | fuck your face |
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| 01:37.23 | Sole | hmm |
| 01:37.26 | MoonWitch | Sole: chill.. it's not the end of the world. |
| 01:37.31 | Sole | that sounds almost as convincing as "you fucking blowjob" |
| 01:37.31 | Toadkiller | lol u canadian noob. only a small fraction of you all go oot & aboot caring about curling |
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| 01:40.11 | Sole | MoonWitch: yes it is |
| 01:40.31 | Spiff | in CowTip, on the Text Lines bit using DogTag stuff, how can I completely turn off the display if the unit is dead? I've tried "IsDead" and that doesn't seem to work |
| 01:40.55 | Silowyi | Morogrim has missed me on 5 straight earthquakes |
| 01:41.20 | Silowyi | 6 |
| 01:41.22 | Sole | you know nothing! |
| 01:41.33 | Silowyi | 7 |
| 01:41.50 | Wobin | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V2_ueohYRhU |
| 01:41.58 | Wobin | I can't believe that's an actual ad =P |
| 01:42.23 | Wobin | Sole: We felt much the same |
| 01:42.24 | Silowyi | 8 |
| 01:42.34 | Sole | Wobin: eng vs aus was bullshit |
| 01:42.37 | Wobin | Last night it was "OMG FUCKING ENGLAND, WE LOST TO FUCKING ENGLAND" |
| 01:42.48 | Sole | Wobin: eng played their typical asshole strat |
| 01:42.54 | Sole | Wobin: you guys wouldve had em had you had larkham |
| 01:43.04 | Sole | as much as I dont like him but hes a hell of a player |
| 01:43.04 | Seerah | pong MoonWitch |
| 01:43.04 | Wobin | However, we are content in the fact that they will get their arses handed to them backwards when they go up against NZ |
| 01:43.16 | Sole | yes |
| 01:43.18 | Silowyi | 9 |
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| 01:43.30 | Sole | but how the hell did we lose to france =\ |
| 01:43.36 | Sole | theyre like bad |
| 01:43.45 | Wobin | Sole: Shouldn't they have like.. given up? =) |
| 01:43.49 | Sole | Wobin: lol |
| 01:43.50 | Necrathex | Silowyi: i don't believ you |
| 01:43.54 | MoonWitch | Seerah: read the dialog, though I need to check what I said there lol |
| 01:43.55 | Necrathex | anymore |
| 01:43.57 | Sole | Wobin: well I dont understand why the all-stars were on the bench |
| 01:44.07 | NimbleRabit | how do I use cart_import |
| 01:44.13 | Sole | Wobin: dan carter, considered best goddamn player in the world was on the bench WATAF |
| 01:44.33 | Wobin | There's been a whole reef of bad decisions |
| 01:44.36 | Sole | Wobin: almost all our top guys were subbed off |
| 01:44.40 | ckknight | awesome, Wobin, Toyotas in WotLK! |
| 01:44.46 | dylanm | Spiff: Try just [Dead] |
| 01:44.48 | MoonWitch | lol |
| 01:45.08 | Spiff | ah |
| 01:45.10 | MoonWitch | crap my hair pin is stuck in my hair |
| 01:45.12 | Sole | some terrible decisions |
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| 01:45.32 | Seerah | moonwitch: umm.... something about textures or rugby? :) |
| 01:45.37 | Sole | this world cup became shit overnight |
| 01:45.40 | Wobin | ckknight: "Did you see me lay down the law?! CALL ME THE LAWBRINGER!" |
| 01:45.41 | Wobin | =P |
| 01:45.46 | Sole | Im almost tempted to go for south africa |
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| 01:45.57 | MoonWitch | Seerah: naah cookies |
| 01:46.09 | Wobin | Sole: do it =) |
| 01:46.18 | Sole | SA has a good chance of stomping the others |
| 01:46.36 | Seerah | ohhhh in the PM :) no, I didn't eat the valium ones :) |
| 01:46.37 | Sole | For England: |
| 01:46.38 | Sole | Pens: Wilkinson 4 |
| 01:46.43 | MoonWitch | Seerah: LOLOL |
| 01:46.44 | Wobin | As an australian, it's ingrained within us to cheer for the underdog (unless they're up against us, or anyone geographically close to us) |
| 01:46.47 | Sole | big surprise huh |
| 01:46.54 | Sole | indeed |
| 01:46.58 | Sole | I was goin for aus or nz |
| 01:47.01 | Sole | depending on who got through |
| 01:47.13 | MoonWitch | I use PMs for some things otherwise I forget what I said >.< |
| 01:47.25 | Sole | I like south africa too though |
| 01:47.42 | Sole | habana can run like a kenya man |
| 01:47.48 | Sole | but hes not from kenya |
| 01:48.49 | Spiff | hm, I don't think that's working dylanm |
| 01:49.43 | Wobin | Sole: Be fickle, it's your right =P Cheer for the team that's going to do the best against who you hate =) |
| 01:49.54 | Sole | hmm |
| 01:50.02 | Sole | this is like 99 all over again =\ |
| 01:50.08 | Sole | I wouldnt mind losing to aus or sa |
| 01:50.11 | Sole | but france! |
| 01:50.32 | Sole | theyre just a step above canadians... |
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| 01:54.44 | hyperChipmunk | Wobin: that the toyota one? |
| 01:55.32 | dylanm | Spiff: Sorry Spiff... I don't actually use CowTip but I remember playing with the syntax... I must be remembering things correctly. Maybe repeat exactly what you want done with an expression? |
| 01:56.05 | Paene | anyone follow college hockey? |
| 01:56.17 | the-golem | Tuller: you around? |
| 01:56.20 | Wobin | hyperChipmunk: yeah |
| 01:56.22 | hyperChipmunk | Paene: yo |
| 01:56.31 | Tuller | the-golem: yeah |
| 01:56.44 | hyperChipmunk | Wobin: saw that during a football game earlier; i'm pretty sure it was the first airing |
| 01:56.53 | Paene | Michigan Tech beats Toronto 7-0, only an exhibition game tho |
| 01:56.53 | hyperChipmunk | took lol like 2h to get on youtube |
| 01:56.58 | hyperChipmunk | Paene: $$ |
| 01:57.23 | Paene | :D |
| 01:57.29 | the-golem | Tuller: hypothetical here, is it possible to make bongos snap to certain screen edges/positions? |
| 01:57.33 | Spiff | dylanm: well basically I have a complete line configured to show the HP or a % of a unit in the tooltip when I mouse over them. I was wondering if it was possible somehow to just not display that line if the unit was dead. I already have a [Status] after the name of the unit, show it shows if they're dead there, I'd rather not have it repeated if I can help it. |
| 01:57.42 | the-golem | like, bottom center for example |
| 01:57.52 | Tuller | the-golem: yes, and I plan on doing it :) |
| 01:57.56 | hyperChipmunk | that should work |
| 01:57.56 | MoonWitch | yay for smoking and wet hair with pneumonia!!! |
| 01:57.57 | hyperChipmunk | mis |
| 01:58.11 | CIA-12 | tekkub-wow: 03tekkub * r592 10/trunk/TourGuide/ (47 files in 2 dirs): TourGuide - Cleaning up indie's mess, thank you indie. |
| 01:58.35 | Paene | So if I'm developing an entire new version of a mod...essentially a full re-code, is there a way to commit it to svn w/out having it zipped and available to the public? |
| 01:58.59 | Wobin | Paene: Use branches |
| 01:59.17 | the-golem | Tuller: wootness :-) |
| 01:59.53 | the-golem | :P |
| 02:00.00 | Paene | how do I go about creading a branch? |
| 02:00.03 | Paene | *creating |
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| 02:01.07 | hyperChipmunk | lol he flies out with the dragon heart beating in the bed; i didn't catch that the first time |
| 02:02.33 | Pkekyo | anyone tried this Peggle Extreme shit that comes with the Orange Box? |
| 02:02.45 | Pkekyo | fucking adictive man |
| 02:03.11 | orionshock | Tekkub: whats the address for your google svn? |
| 02:03.22 | Tekkub | code.tekkub.net |
| 02:03.23 | Tekkub | :P |
| 02:03.27 | Trell_ | http://tekkub-wow.googlecode.com/svn |
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| 02:03.40 | orionshock | ? code.tekkub.net worked... |
| 02:03.48 | orionshock | do u have a dns redirect? |
| 02:03.51 | Tekkub | yes |
| 02:03.55 | Wobin | hyperChipmunk: hehe, watch how fast nef's hp goes down =) |
| 02:03.57 | orionshock | nice |
| 02:03.59 | Tekkub | cause I can't remember the big one |
| 02:04.02 | Trell_ | ah my bad; I only know cos I had it open |
| 02:04.07 | Trell_ | for each revision :X |
| 02:04.12 | hyperChipmunk | Wobin: yeah i saw that =) |
| 02:04.39 | Wobin | I wonder if they got the Pals4life to do the voices =P |
| 02:05.24 | hyperChipmunk | sure sounds like it |
| 02:08.28 | RogueShadow | Tekkub, that project TourGuide seems like it could be a real winner. How's it goin? |
| 02:08.54 | Tekkub | murr. don't ask today |
| 02:10.02 | Bruners | this is the complete error log i get when starting WAU -> http://ace.pastey.net/74969 |
| 02:10.08 | Bruners | someone please assist me :) |
| 02:10.35 | Trell_ | #wau |
| 02:10.43 | Trell_ | is your best place to ask |
| 02:10.55 | Trell_ | although someone in here may be able to help, im not sure ;) |
| 02:12.27 | RogueShadow | honestly, usually wau works for me, I had to totally uninstall and reinstall once, there's always some weird stupid thing going on with it, but generally it works for me.... |
| 02:12.27 | Tinyboom | Pkekyo: the buying went ok this time i presume:p |
| 02:12.46 | Bruners | it went from working to not working |
| 02:13.33 | Tinyboom | Paene: you back to working on cryo? |
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| 02:15.50 | Pkekyo | Tinyboom: correctemundo, didn't have to buy it twice this time :> |
| 02:16.44 | Pkekyo | I'm fucking addicted to this peggle extreme crap |
| 02:18.28 | Paene | Tinyboom: Yes |
| 02:18.32 | Paene | working on a full re-code |
| 02:18.50 | Paene | been trying to get ahold of jharvey to see if he wants to work on it with me |
| 02:19.02 | CIA-12 | 03sayclub * r51216 10LibBabble-Spell-3.0/LibBabble-Spell-3.0.lua: |
| 02:19.02 | CIA-12 | LibBabble-Spell-3.0 : |
| 02:19.02 | CIA-12 | - Updated localization koKR |
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| 02:19.15 | Tinyboom | Paene: need someone to test^^ and yay:D (i think jharvey is workng a lot...) |
| 02:19.20 | CIA-12 | 03sayclub * r51217 10Babble-2.2/Babble-Spell-2.2/Babble-Spell-2.2.lua: |
| 02:19.20 | CIA-12 | Babble-2.2: |
| 02:19.20 | CIA-12 | - Updated localization koKR |
| 02:19.44 | Paene | I've gotta figure out all the xml stuff, but it shouldn't be too hard |
| 02:19.48 | Paene | I'm working on the backend atm |
| 02:20.41 | Tinyboom | nice:) |
| 02:21.22 | Pkekyo | Tinyboom: damn you! got me shopping for new games on steam now! :p |
| 02:21.36 | Tinyboom | Pkekyo: lol |
| 02:21.49 | Tinyboom | Pkekyo: addictive an't it :p |
| 02:21.58 | Pkekyo | trying to find that old flick Half-Life: Chronicles |
| 02:21.59 | Pkekyo | indeed |
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| 02:23.30 | Pkekyo | meh, it's not on steam :< |
| 02:24.33 | CIA-12 | 03sayclub * r51218 10BigWigs/Hyjal/HyjalSummit.lua: |
| 02:24.33 | CIA-12 | BigWigs: |
| 02:24.33 | CIA-12 | - Updated localization koKR |
| 02:25.58 | Pkekyo | Tinyboom: still here? |
| 02:26.27 | Pkekyo | you don't happen to know the current Bioshock retail price? >: |
| 02:27.42 | CIA-12 | 03ackis * r51219 10AckisRecipeList/ (AckisRecipeList.toc embeds.xml): |
| 02:27.42 | CIA-12 | AckisRecipeList: |
| 02:27.42 | CIA-12 | - Update to embeds.xml and toc, maybe this will fix the problems that are occurring |
| 02:31.40 | Tinyboom | Pkekyo: aye |
| 02:31.50 | Tinyboom | Pkekyo: playing poker:p |
| 02:33.00 | Diao | hmm |
| 02:33.08 | Diao | for auctioneer advanced does it still always undercut if possible? |
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| 02:36.53 | Pkekyo | Tinyboom: share poker |
| 02:37.10 | Tinyboom | Pkekyo: pokerroom.com, small 5 man tournament:p |
| 02:37.27 | orionshock | wtb IsQuestCompleted("Quest") |
| 02:37.35 | Pkekyo | tournament? meh, I suck :p |
| 02:38.12 | aestil | ckknight: changing colors on pitbull power, makes the game CTD |
| 02:38.33 | Pkekyo | meh, Valve ought to do a FULL source remake of HL1... |
| 02:38.39 | CIA-12 | 03ackis * r51220 10AckisRecipeList/: |
| 02:38.39 | CIA-12 | AckisRecipeList: |
| 02:38.39 | CIA-12 | - Update to svn:externals |
| 02:38.43 | aestil | ckknight: specifically, changing the saturation [ i think it was saturation, might have been luminosity |
| 02:38.45 | Pkekyo | now THAT would sell like a motherfucker |
| 02:39.38 | Hjalte | Pkekyo, hasnt someone else begun that? |
| 02:39.57 | Tinyboom | someone started, not sure how far they have come.... |
| 02:40.13 | orionshock | eek, can't get my WayPoints back for TourGuide :( |
| 02:40.16 | Pkekyo | Hjalte: not that I know... |
| 02:40.16 | Pkekyo | valve did a remake of HL1 with the source physics engine etc...same old textures and stuff though :< |
| 02:40.21 | CIA-12 | 03avai * r51221 10XLootGroup/ (XLootGroup.toc localization.zhTW.lua): |
| 02:40.21 | CIA-12 | XLootGroup: |
| 02:40.21 | CIA-12 | - Added zhTW localization |
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| 02:41.17 | Pkekyo | don't understand why Valve haven't done it themselves yet |
| 02:42.21 | Pkekyo | OMFG! Commander Keen on steam! |
| 02:43.15 | Pkekyo | now THAT's an instant purchase |
| 02:44.46 | RogueShadow | cavestory ftw |
| 02:47.23 | Gnarfoz | lol |
| 02:47.26 | Hjalte | Pkekyo: http://www.blackmesasource.com/ |
| 02:47.28 | Gnarfoz | working under xp and all? |
| 02:47.46 | Pkekyo | Hjalte: thankies lotses |
| 02:47.54 | Pkekyo | Gnarfoz: I assume so |
| 02:50.40 | orionshock | hehe.. TourGuide + Cart Quest Obj = win |
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| 02:52.16 | WALoeIII | Can anyone explain to how to have my addons "scale down" when I go into windowed mode, and back up when I go fulls creen |
| 02:52.28 | WALoeIII | sometimes it works, then they update and don't then two days later they do |
| 02:52.38 | WALoeIII | not really sure how/why, like right now pitbull does but bartender3 doesn't, but both did last week |
| 02:53.17 | Xinhuan | known bug, fixed in 2.2.3 on PTR |
| 02:53.49 | WALoeIII | so my whole UI will scale down and up properly, excellent |
| 02:54.31 | Xinhuan | when you're in fullscreen, set your UIScale to 0.9 and you should be fine |
| 02:54.48 | Xinhuan | /script UIParent:SetScale(0.9) |
| 02:54.50 | Xinhuan | that is |
| 02:55.02 | Xinhuan | or do it in Video Options using the slider there |
| 02:58.21 | Xelopheris | . . . WTF! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8HsmZ_9fH1I |
| 03:03.50 | WALoeIII | and just use the whole thing at .9 all the time and it'll work? |
| 03:05.32 | Pkekyo | this Black Mesa Source stuff looks GREAT |
| 03:07.24 | Jagobah | Isn't there a fubar plugin that adjusts the UI Scale directly? |
| 03:08.02 | Xelopheris | only things I've ever seen for modifying the UI scale are sliders -- I prefer modifying it in the config files myself |
| 03:08.08 | Xelopheris | easier to get exact values |
| 03:09.16 | Tuller | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:09.26 | Jagobah | if I go to 1280 from 1152, I will notice my bartender bars on the right hand side disappear |
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| 03:09.48 | Xinhuan | the proper way is inside "Video Options" |
| 03:09.53 | Xinhuan | UIScale slider is there |
| 03:10.02 | Xelopheris | yeah, and that UIscale slider never land son exact values |
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| 03:10.18 | Xinhuan | [10/7 10:52:04] <Xinhuan> /script UIParent:SetScale(0.9) |
| 03:10.22 | Xinhuan | do that if you want exact ones |
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| 03:11.29 | Xelopheris | must admit, I've never thought of that :P |
| 03:12.05 | Paene | is there an easy way to search for an item in a bag by it's name? |
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| 03:14.16 | orionshock | Paene: depends on what you want to do with it |
| 03:14.33 | yssaril | paene if u use baggins with the search module it is :) |
| 03:16.09 | Paene | I want to find an item and count how many of that item the user has |
| 03:17.17 | Tinyboom | Good night/morning folks:) Need to sleep some, otherwise the misses gonna kill me later today:p (family "please kill me" dinner with the in-laws...) |
| 03:17.58 | Xinhuan | next patch Paene, blizzard adds a API for it |
| 03:18.15 | Xinhuan | currently, the only way is to scan all your bags and bagslots and count manually |
| 03:18.53 | Nandini | or do /console SET uiScale "0.9" |
| 03:19.17 | Nandini | and then reload the UI |
| 03:19.19 | Xinhuan | it'll probably get saved as 0.8999999999999999 anyway ;p |
| 03:19.23 | Paene | Xinhuan: right, but I'd have to compare the itemID of the item to each item I find right? |
| 03:19.38 | Xinhuan | well you said "by name", so you'll get the name of every item in every slot |
| 03:19.42 | Xinhuan | and compare by that |
| 03:19.53 | Paene | but there's no function in the WoW API for returning the name |
| 03:19.56 | Paene | not that I can find at least |
| 03:19.57 | Xinhuan | and add up the stackcount if it matches |
| 03:20.05 | Xinhuan | GetContainerItem() |
| 03:20.11 | Xinhuan | or something like that |
| 03:20.13 | Xinhuan | returns the link |
| 03:20.27 | Xinhuan | GetContainerItem(bag, slot) |
| 03:20.29 | Xinhuan | i think* |
| 03:21.08 | Xinhuan | once you have the link, extract the name from the link |
| 03:21.21 | Paene | kk |
| 03:21.22 | Paene | thanks |
| 03:21.22 | Xinhuan | i.e it is as hard as you think it is to do something that sounds simple |
| 03:21.30 | Paene | kinda lame imo |
| 03:21.44 | backbone | is pairs() a failsave iterator? |
| 03:21.56 | Xinhuan | "failsafe"? |
| 03:22.35 | backbone | if you delete the current pair from the table |
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| 03:23.54 | backbone | will the iterator fail on next step or not |
| 03:24.15 | Pkekyo | what does =/= mean? |
| 03:24.40 | Xelopheris | not equals to, in RL math |
| 03:25.32 | Pkekyo | not equals to? |
| 03:25.33 | dylanm | backbone: I think it's okay in lua. It's not a common thing to see but I think it's based on the next() function. |
| 03:25.44 | Xelopheris | yep |
| 03:25.45 | Pkekyo | ie "is not"? |
| 03:25.50 | Xelopheris | essentially |
| 03:25.52 | dylanm | backbone: So it's okay to delete keys... not sure what happens if you add new ones, though. |
| 03:25.57 | Pkekyo | cheers xelo |
| 03:26.04 | dylanm | backbone: I very much doubt that's kosher. |
| 03:26.20 | yssaril | dylanm that one dosnt kare if you remove a key |
| 03:26.35 | backbone | i ll get an error, if it does not work ^^ |
| 03:26.43 | dylanm | yssaril: Hm? |
| 03:26.46 | yssaril | ipairs() does however cause it stops when it finds the first integer that is nil |
| 03:26.56 | dylanm | yssaril: I said it would work... |
| 03:26.56 | backbone | let you know what the result is |
| 03:27.19 | yssaril | dylanm: oops sry was supposed to go to backbone :) |
| 03:28.29 | yssaril | backbone just fyi pairs() does not guarantee any order when it returns keys and their corresponding vars |
| 03:28.34 | backbone | its a dictonary so i use pairs |
| 03:28.42 | yssaril | ahh |
| 03:29.02 | CIA-12 | 03toadkiller * r51222 10PeriodicTable-3.0/ (3 files in 2 dirs): |
| 03:29.02 | CIA-12 | PeriodicTable-3.0: |
| 03:29.02 | CIA-12 | - A bunch of quest items from LaoTseu |
| 03:29.25 | backbone | probably it can be solved with a metatable |
| 03:29.33 | yssaril | hmm would persoannly still use ipairs cause you can sort it easily |
| 03:29.58 | yssaril | just make it like this var[1] = {word,description} |
| 03:30.08 | backbone | i cant use ipairs in a dictonary |
| 03:30.33 | yssaril | but really depends on what your final purpose will be and what you are doing with the dictonary |
| 03:30.34 | backbone | yeah buts this is out of its intention its a dispatch table for events |
| 03:30.44 | Zhinjio | Anyone else not getting OmniCC counts on buttons anymore? |
| 03:30.46 | Zhinjio | since the patch? |
| 03:31.00 | yssaril | Zhinjio: update OmniCC |
| 03:31.06 | Xelopheris | OT, ut anyone watching the van-cgy game? |
| 03:31.08 | Zhinjio | I have the most recent version |
| 03:31.18 | yssaril | the one from 2 hours ago? |
| 03:31.19 | Tuller | Zhinjio: did you completely log out? |
| 03:31.31 | Xinhuan | backbone: pairs() is safe. it saves the state of the current loop, and will give the next key-value pair even if you nil the current one |
| 03:31.39 | Tuller | how big are your buttons? |
| 03:31.41 | Zhinjio | no, I don't have that most recent version. |
| 03:31.50 | Zhinjio | I think I updated about 6 hours ago |
| 03:31.51 | Xinhuan | backbone: however, if you insert a new key-value pair into the table, the behavior of pairs() will be undefined. |
| 03:32.04 | backbone | i am only deleting |
| 03:32.30 | Xinhuan | then a "for k = pairs(t) do t[k] = nil end" loop will delete the whole table |
| 03:32.52 | Zhinjio | huh, its not even in WAU. nm... I need to go dig it up |
| 03:33.11 | backbone | if it does my code will work |
| 03:33.26 | backbone | i delete the pair only if the subtable is empty |
| 03:33.46 | Xinhuan | yep |
| 03:33.46 | yssaril | Zhinjio: http://code.google.com/p/tullamods/downloads/list |
| 03:33.52 | Xinhuan | in fact pairs() is designed to work that way |
| 03:34.15 | Xinhuan | it is safe to modify the current value or any key-value pair that has been traversed before |
| 03:34.35 | Zhinjio | getting somewhere safe, and then I'll grab it |
| 03:35.20 | CIA-12 | tekkub-wow: 03tekkub * r593 10/trunk/TourGuide/ (TourGuide.lua StatusFrame.lua OHFrame.lua QuestTracking.lua): |
| 03:35.20 | CIA-12 | tekkub-wow: TourGuide |
| 03:35.20 | CIA-12 | tekkub-wow: - Cleanup of the core code a bit, probably totally fucks over something somewhere... guess we'll see. |
| 03:35.20 | CIA-12 | tekkub-wow: - Added level tag, but it's not complete and tested yet. |
| 03:35.21 | CIA-12 | tekkub-wow: - Removed |I| tags, they were not being used. |
| 03:35.45 | aestil | anyone else use dorje's healing bars? |
| 03:37.00 | Zhinjio | damn... it wasn't even installed. I was being daft. |
| 03:37.28 | yssaril | that would explain it not working :) |
| 03:37.40 | Zhinjio | Indeed! |
| 03:38.00 | yssaril | i do it all the time turn something off and then ask myself where the hell something is |
| 03:38.01 | Nandini | i have always loved omnicc |
| 03:38.17 | yssaril | yep omnicc rules |
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| 03:38.37 | Nandini | so much so that i hate it when other buff mod writers use their own cooldown indicators |
| 03:38.47 | yssaril | i think it got it the day i found out about addons and have used it eversince |
| 03:38.48 | Nandini | or bar mods |
| 03:39.12 | Nandini | i wonder if it works with PitBull_AltAura |
| 03:39.43 | yssaril | Nandini: it should as long as you make your frame size small enough cause the new one blocks cooldown text by size of fram |
| 03:39.46 | yssaril | *frame |
| 03:40.07 | Nandini | cool, i will try it out, thanks! |
| 03:40.10 | orionshock | Tekkub: what's it mean when you have a Moon in TourGuide? |
| 03:40.23 | Tekkub | set hearth |
| 03:40.32 | Tekkub | I so couldn't find an icon for that |
| 03:40.36 | Nandini | it means you've been leveling too long and you need to sleep! |
| 03:41.20 | yssaril | lol |
| 03:42.19 | Xelopheris | That sounds about right |
| 03:43.11 | Paene | using ace, is there any way to make a set of variables that reset everytime you log off then back on and be able to reference them? Essentially a bunch of private variables that you could access by using ModnamePrivate.variable? |
| 03:43.32 | Kerafyrm | tourguide a private beta now? |
| 03:43.47 | Nandini | you could put those variables in as hidden options |
| 03:43.57 | Nandini | and reset them to default on load |
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| 03:44.22 | yssaril | Tuller: ping |
| 03:44.47 | CIA-12 | 03andyca * r51223 10Babble-2.2/Babble-Boss-2.2/Babble-Boss-2.2.lua: |
| 03:44.47 | CIA-12 | Babble-2.2: |
| 03:44.47 | CIA-12 | -Update Babble-Boss-2.2.lua zhTW "Epoch Hunter" to new name |
| 03:44.47 | Nandini | but if they're resetting every time you log off and log back on, what need is there to save them? |
| 03:44.56 | Paene | there is none |
| 03:45.09 | Paene | just want to have them organized mostly |
| 03:45.12 | orionshock | Paene: SV ? |
| 03:45.23 | Tuller | yssaril: ? |
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| 03:45.27 | Paene | I don't want them saved is the thing |
| 03:45.35 | orionshock | ok |
| 03:45.36 | Paene | I just want them group for organization |
| 03:45.44 | Nandini | put them in a table structure |
| 03:45.50 | orionshock | ya |
| 03:46.03 | orionshock | if you want them local to the file - then local t={} |
| 03:46.04 | Paene | local ModnamePrivate { } |
| 03:46.04 | yssaril | Tuller: is it possible to add a test button to OmniCC where it tosses idk a 10sec timer on every frame that i would? |
| 03:46.04 | Paene | ? |
| 03:46.07 | Nandini | you can reference them hierarchically that way by name and/or index |
| 03:46.16 | Paene | excellent |
| 03:46.20 | Paene | thanks :) |
| 03:46.21 | yssaril | Tuller: would make testing setting easier |
| 03:46.22 | orionshock | else you have to gvie it a complicated name ie -- AddonName = {} |
| 03:46.36 | yssaril | Tuller: no idea if its possible though |
| 03:46.47 | Paene | orionshock: tried that and my mod stopped loading lol |
| 03:46.59 | Nandini | yssaril, i think a "test" function would be a great idea |
| 03:47.00 | orionshock | you did somethign wrong then |
| 03:47.05 | Paene | most likely :) |
| 03:47.26 | Tuller | yssaril: I think I might throw in a test action button at some point |
| 03:47.28 | yssaril | pane pastey your code lets have a look at it :) |
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| 03:47.41 | orionshock | rogues - posions - lvl ? |
| 03:47.49 | Paene | I think I found it lol, forgot an = sign |
| 03:47.56 | Paene | gonna test in a sec |
| 03:48.05 | yssaril | Tuller: no way to use buttons you already have? to figure out the scalling and stuff too? |
| 03:48.19 | Tuller | yssaril: well it does do live updates |
| 03:48.25 | Nandini | orionshock: rogue posion quest is available at level 20 |
| 03:48.27 | Tuller | yssaril: but I cannot easily trigger on things that already exist |
| 03:48.37 | yssaril | Tuller: kk |
| 03:48.40 | orionshock | ok .. 5 more lvlsa |
| 03:48.48 | yssaril | orionshock: u lvl 65? |
| 03:49.01 | orionshock | no... |
| 03:49.13 | orionshock | me Druid is 80 already and me rogue is 15 |
| 03:49.20 | Nandini | make sure you read a GOOD description of how the quest works, otherwise you will find it very difficult |
| 03:49.21 | Kerafyrm | 80? nice! |
| 03:49.22 | Kerafyrm | lol |
| 03:51.06 | Xelopheris | we druids are just that OP |
| 03:51.17 | Nandini | we fight like level 80s :) |
| 03:51.24 | Xelopheris | Or underpowered, if you realize we get the shit beaten out of us with 10 levels on our side |
| 03:51.40 | orionshock | no no...\ |
| 03:51.49 | Nandini | umm... you have level 60s beating you xelo? BAD druid! |
| 03:51.56 | Xelopheris | no :P |
| 03:52.07 | Xelopheris | saying even if I were level 80, a good MS warrior still makes me eat my own shit |
| 03:52.10 | orionshock | druid are just that much smarter than the rest that we can excel to lvl 80 before the next X-pac |
| 03:52.25 | Xelopheris | btw, why is it every warlock has a druid alt? |
| 03:52.33 | Nandini | i'm a druid with a rogue alt |
| 03:52.35 | Xelopheris | I know I used to be a warlock with a druid alt :P |
| 03:52.44 | Xelopheris | now I'm a druid with a warlock rogue and hunter alt |
| 03:52.50 | Nandini | i've never even rolled a warlock, not even for a bank char, that's how strongly i feel :P |
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| 03:53.19 | Xelopheris | warlock was rolled pre-1.6. He was sitting at level 41 until 1.6 |
| 03:53.42 | orionshock | i rolled a lock once.. |
| 03:53.54 | Megalon | well |
| 03:53.56 | Nandini | i would like to try a hunter, that's another class that seems like it would require brains to do well |
| 03:54.08 | Xelopheris | man, I miss 2.0 pre-tbc on my lock. Running around in 5/8 nemesis with a felguard out was deadly |
| 03:54.27 | Megalon | who else leveled his druid at release, not after those countless ferallove patches :PP |
| 03:54.33 | Xelopheris | <<-- |
| 03:54.48 | Nandini | i didn't start playing wow until february, so i'm guilty as charged. |
| 03:55.09 | Megalon | back in the days when hurricane was a 31 talent |
| 03:55.10 | Megalon | :\ |
| 03:55.19 | Corgan | lol |
| 03:55.20 | Corgan | I remember that |
| 03:55.21 | Xelopheris | we need to get lotp made base >.> |
| 03:55.26 | Xelopheris | Yeah, that was horrible |
| 03:55.34 | Megalon | and was always cast around the druid ;D |
| 03:55.51 | Corgan | back when you used to get laughed at for having points in feral |
| 03:55.57 | orionshock | look, don't know bout the rest of you ruids, but i was a fking awesome tank before the xpac; i continued to be a fking awesome tank after the xpac - and even after those "nerf"s to feral druid-ness, i continue to be a fking awesome tank |
| 03:55.58 | Nandini | i'm guessing they will reorganize some talents for all classes when they expand the trees for WotlK |
| 03:55.58 | Megalon | :D |
| 03:56.20 | orionshock | so meh |
| 03:56.32 | Nandini | i was never an uber-bear tank, by the time i was 70, they had "normalized" it to where it is now |
| 03:57.06 | Xelopheris | I was the first person to tank any of the level 70 instances on my server :) |
| 03:57.06 | Nandini | i never saw one of those legendary 4.5k mangle crits (which i still doubt!) |
| 03:57.21 | orionshock | then again i got my ass handed to me before the xpac in pvp, and continued to do so after. ... it was sad :( |
| 03:57.29 | Xelopheris | I got 2.3 bear mangle crit |
| 03:57.35 | Xelopheris | with a 2k maul crit at the same time |
| 03:57.50 | Xelopheris | Conveniantly enough, I had also gotten MSd and autoattacked for about the same at the same time :) |
| 03:58.15 | Nandini | well, i feel lucky to have learned when i did |
| 03:58.38 | Nandini | i have a 70 rogue now too, but i really don't enjoy it half as much as my druid |
| 03:58.58 | Nandini | i just can't see any other class ever being as much fun |
| 04:00.10 | Nandini | but maybe that's just because i haven't tried them yet |
| 04:00.24 | CIA-12 | tekkub-wow: 03tekkub * r594 10/trunk/TourGuide/ (TourGuide.lua StatusFrame.lua): TourGuide - Level tag finished and tested. Some other bug fixed. |
| 04:00.27 | Xelopheris | nandini: how far are you progressionwise? |
| 04:01.00 | Nandini | i've only been to SSC once, then i let my subscription expire |
| 04:01.15 | Paene | Anyone see why this isn't returning anything? |
| 04:01.15 | Paene | http://ace.pastey.net/74974 |
| 04:01.22 | Nandini | no TK or BT or MH |
| 04:01.29 | Paene | or at least not printing anything |
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| 04:03.11 | Nandini | you are expecting your :PLAYER_LOGIN event handler to print something? |
| 04:03.13 | Pkekyo | .¯\(°.o)/¯.: what does this button do |
| 04:03.13 | Pkekyo | Atomic Waffle: Which one- |
| 04:03.13 | Pkekyo | Atomic Waffle was kicked by .¯\(°.o)/¯.. |
| 04:03.21 | Pkekyo | ftw ^^ |
| 04:03.33 | Paene | it prints the "Cryolysis 2 loaded" part |
| 04:03.57 | Nargiddley | Bags probably dont exist at that stage in the load process |
| 04:04.20 | yssaril | Tuller: omnicc just gave me this error http://ace.pastey.net/74975 |
| 04:04.55 | Xinhuan | you don't have any information on what is in your bags until PLAYER_ENTERING_WORLD |
| 04:06.08 | Nandini | correct, it should work if you run the function manually after your character appears |
| 04:06.33 | Xinhuan | just change the event from PLAYER_LOGIN to PLAYER_ENTERING_WORLD |
| 04:06.51 | Tuller | yssaril: I'm wondering logically how that could happen :) |
| 04:07.25 | yssaril | was doing the ram thing opened my bags and bam hasnt repeated since /shrug |
| 04:07.29 | Tuller | yssaril: what font did you choose? |
| 04:07.38 | Tuller | yssaril: what bag addon are you using? |
| 04:07.49 | yssaril | Tuller: i left the default one and didn't change it baggins |
| 04:09.23 | Jaxon | Here is an idea for a mod. How about making the blinking text cursor not suck as. |
| 04:09.49 | Xinhuan | :o |
| 04:10.02 | Corgan | is it possible to make the chat text fade out after like, 20 seconds |
| 04:10.08 | Corgan | not fade out completely |
| 04:10.17 | Xinhuan | Corgan: no |
| 04:10.21 | Corgan | hrmm |
| 04:10.24 | Corgan | lame :( |
| 04:15.35 | Pkekyo | hmm...is it illegal to deface currency? |
| 04:16.16 | orionshock | yes Pkekyo |
| 04:16.32 | Xinhuan | generally yes. depends on the laws in your country. |
| 04:16.43 | Pkekyo | hmm...interesting :) |
| 04:17.14 | Pkekyo | but...WHY?! |
| 04:17.28 | orionshock | federal property |
| 04:17.30 | Xinhuan | because currency is government property |
| 04:17.57 | Xinhuan | it has value because the economy makes it so, also because currency is more useful than pure bartering. |
| 04:18.27 | Pkekyo | federap property? lollilops |
| 04:18.27 | Pkekyo | MY MNEYH! |
| 04:18.52 | orionshock | lol no |
| 04:19.35 | Pkekyo | lol yes |
| 04:19.35 | Pkekyo | if the federales try to take my money I'l fucking kick'em in the nuts 'till they grow titties |
| 04:20.10 | orionshock | ... oddly enough it's theirs to begin with .. |
| 04:20.13 | orionshock | so... |
| 04:20.23 | orionshock | look - it's not gold coin - thus not your money |
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| 04:20.42 | Xinhuan | currency is just a representation of wealth |
| 04:20.50 | orionshock | not even that |
| 04:21.09 | Sole | where can I find the specific changes to the frame positioning system? I dont see it in the 2.2 changes on the UI forum |
| 04:21.15 | Sole | I need to know what to change |
| 04:21.20 | Xinhuan | there isn't any specifics Sole |
| 04:21.27 | Sole | well thats great |
| 04:21.32 | Xinhuan | when you do a Drag on a frame |
| 04:21.34 | Pkekyo | so...if I started defacing fuckloads of currency, I'd get thrown in the slammer? |
| 04:21.36 | Xinhuan | and move it to a new position |
| 04:21.43 | Xinhuan | layout-cache.txt will save that frame |
| 04:21.49 | Xinhuan | the position it saves it to |
| 04:21.55 | Xinhuan | will depend on where you drag it to |
| 04:22.00 | Xinhuan | it finds the nearest anchor point |
| 04:22.11 | Xinhuan | there's 5 of them |
| 04:22.13 | orionshock | Pkekyo: depends on if i turn you in? |
| 04:22.15 | Sole | so we no longer need to use our own frame position saving code? |
| 04:22.19 | Paene | Xinhaun: still doesn't seem to be working after changing it to PLAYER_ENTERING_WORLD |
| 04:22.21 | Xinhuan | TOPLEFT, TOPRIGHT, BOTTOMLEFT, BOTTOMRIGHT or CENTER |
| 04:22.38 | Pkekyo | orionshock: damn you, you're ruining my exellent marketing scheme :< |
| 04:22.43 | Xinhuan | you do, if you want to avoid the "logout, disable addon, login, logout, enable, login" problem |
| 04:22.53 | Xinhuan | because layout-cache.txt doesn't save layout of disabled addons |
| 04:22.58 | Sole | ahh |
| 04:22.59 | Nandini | Paene: does it work if you run the function manually? |
| 04:23.11 | Xinhuan | you can typically do a function like this one |
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| 04:23.38 | Xinhuan | temp:SetScript("OnDragStop", function(self) |
| 04:23.40 | Paene | Nandini: you mean by typing /script function in-game? |
| 04:23.42 | Xinhuan | WoWEquip_Frame:StopMovingOrSizing(); |
| 04:23.44 | Xinhuan | WoWEquip_Save.pospoint, _, WoWEquip_Save.posrelpoint, WoWEquip_Save.posoffsetx, WoWEquip_Save.posoffsety = WoWEquip_Frame:GetPoint(); |
| 04:23.46 | Xinhuan | end |
| 04:23.50 | Sole | it uses the point closest to the nearest corner, correct? |
| 04:23.51 | Xinhuan | ); |
| 04:23.53 | Xinhuan | yes |
| 04:24.09 | Xinhuan | basically, you just save the 4 out of the 5 return values of GetPoint() |
| 04:24.16 | Xinhuan | after a OnDragStop |
| 04:24.24 | Xinhuan | and after a VariablesLoaded, you can SetPoint those variables |
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| 04:24.29 | Sole | ok |
| 04:24.34 | Sole | thanks |
| 04:25.24 | Xinhuan | sounds easy? |
| 04:25.51 | Sole | not too bad |
| 04:26.43 | Xinhuan | you just need to make sure you define some defaults |
| 04:26.46 | Xinhuan | in your setpoint |
| 04:28.20 | Sole | basically now we just have to save the point and relative point instead of just the x and y |
| 04:29.01 | Nandini | it's a smart thing to do anyway, as it helps frames keep from ending up someplace unexpected when swithcing UI scales or resolutions |
| 04:29.18 | Nandini | they'll at least be in the right general area |
| 04:29.29 | Sole | yes seems like good practise |
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| 04:29.37 | CIA-12 | AckisRecipeList: |
| 04:29.37 | CIA-12 | - Added missing recipes for engineering |
| 04:29.37 | CIA-12 | - Converted enUS to UTF-8 encoding |
| 04:29.37 | CIA-12 | - Fixed some comment typos in frFR |
| 04:30.13 | Nandini | i switch from 2560x1024 (dual monitors) to 1280x1024 frequently and it wreaks havoc on everything |
| 04:31.05 | Nandini | if i could afford that beautiful samsung 28" widescreen lcd monitor, i wouldn't have that problem :) |
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| 04:31.54 | Nandini | one of our technical artists at work has one, i didn't realize until i saw it side-by-side with her other monitor (she uses it for email and stuff) how different they could be |
| 04:32.26 | CIA-12 | tekkub-wow: 03tekkub * r595 10/trunk/TourGuide/ (5 files in 3 dirs): TourGuide - "Train" objectives now auto-complete when the training window is opened. Various guide tweaks. |
| 04:32.28 | Xinhuan | it wouldn't even be a problem if you set Frame:SetClampedToScreen(true) |
| 04:32.34 | Nandini | she dragged a picture from one monitor onto the other and it was like looking at something really in front of you, then looking at something through a dirty window |
| 04:33.15 | Nandini | $1200 is a bit much to pay for a 28" monitor tho i think :) |
| 04:33.22 | Sole | bit hefty |
| 04:33.30 | Nandini | unless you are an artist |
| 04:33.45 | Xelopheris | Nandini: not that much -- saw some 30" touchscreen monitors at my summer job |
| 04:33.47 | Xelopheris | those were pricey |
| 04:34.09 | Nandini | i'm not sure i would want to put my dirty fingers on anything that cost more than $20 :P |
| 04:34.22 | Nandini | i go thru screen protectors on my phone so fast |
| 04:34.32 | Xelopheris | it came with like, ten litres of special windex |
| 04:34.48 | Nandini | it should come with its own immigrant worker to wash the windows! |
| 04:35.28 | Xelopheris | lawl, somehow I don't think an immigrant worker can get the necessary clearance to get within 100 feet of my office building :) |
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| 04:36.19 | Nandini | still i want that 28" samsung, it was just beautiful |
| 04:36.27 | Paene | interesting...it returned the wrong amount |
| 04:36.31 | Toadkiller | wow 30" touchscreen is huge! Its as big as my apple widescreen I just bought! |
| 04:38.05 | Nandini | my two 19" monitors side by side are about 28" diagnoal but there's that inch of black space in the middle that kind of ruins the exprience :P |
| 04:38.31 | Xelopheris | two 19" monitors doesn't make 28" of diagnol |
| 04:39.25 | Xelopheris | well, probably significantly more, but the ratio is just retarded bad to do anything with it :P |
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| 04:39.53 | Xelopheris | YES! |
| 04:40.31 | Nandini | it's about 33" total from top left pixel to bottom right pixel, i didn't think it was that big |
| 04:40.35 | Paene | GetItemInfo seems to be returning the wrong value... |
| 04:41.17 | Nandini | but a 5/2 aspect ratio is not particularly useful, you're right |
| 04:41.58 | Xinhuan | Paene: such as? |
| 04:42.05 | Nargiddley | Paene: itemStackCount is the max stack for an item |
| 04:42.15 | Xinhuan | you probably used the wrong number |
| 04:42.24 | Xinhuan | what Nargiddley said |
| 04:43.34 | Xinhuan | you want to use |
| 04:43.35 | Xinhuan | icon, count = GetContainerItemInfo(bagNum, bagItem); |
| 04:43.40 | Xinhuan | and use that "count" value |
| 04:46.06 | Xelopheris | OMG! Vancouver scores with 5 seconds left in OT |
| 04:51.00 | Gnarfoz | isn't there GetItemCount() now? |
| 04:51.44 | Xelopheris | In 2.0 IIRC |
| 04:52.04 | Xelopheris | NEW count = GetItemCount(itemID|"itemLink") <<--- 2.0 patch notes |
| 04:52.06 | Gnarfoz | yeah, we're at 2.2 :> |
| 04:52.47 | Gnarfoz | haven't been following the discussion, so maybe GetItemCount is not applicable here ^^ |
| 04:53.38 | Gnarfoz | man, Netherwing Crystals are a bitch to farm :< |
| 04:53.54 | Xelopheris | epic flyer moeny is a bitch to farm >.> |
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| 04:56.05 | Gnarfoz | who farms money? |
| 04:56.11 | Gnarfoz | do quests at 70, do daily quests |
| 04:56.15 | Gnarfoz | you'll be rich ^^ |
| 04:56.56 | Xelopheris | Done them. But four three regular flying mounts costs money |
| 04:57.05 | Xelopheris | not to mention enchants for four characters :P |
| 04:57.25 | Xelopheris | I have a serious case of altitis :( |
| 04:58.44 | Corgan | [18:58:35] <Xelopheris> I have a serious case of altitis :( |
| 04:58.44 | Corgan | no me |
| 04:59.03 | Xelopheris | How many 70s in full kara epics do you have? |
| 04:59.03 | Corgan | I have all but 3 classes over level 60 |
| 04:59.09 | Corgan | mm |
| 04:59.12 | Corgan | kara epics are lame |
| 04:59.14 | Corgan | :D |
| 04:59.17 | Corgan | I have 3 70s |
| 04:59.20 | Xelopheris | yeah, but they're easy to get for alts |
| 04:59.32 | Corgan | 67 warrior on it's way to 70 |
| 05:00.27 | Xelopheris | rogue/hunter/lock/druid all sitting at 70, druid is in best pre-t5 gear available (+ SSC belt/boot pattern items), all the others are sitting with best available gear without stepping foot in a 25-man. |
| 05:00.52 | Gnarfoz | guy in my pre-BC guild has 70s of all classes |
| 05:00.54 | Gnarfoz | :< insane |
| 05:01.02 | Xelopheris | lol, wtf |
| 05:01.09 | Gnarfoz | his warrior is rank 14 |
| 05:01.17 | Gnarfoz | and I think he raids with 3 of them |
| 05:01.36 | Corgan | Gnarfoz, I'm working on that |
| 05:01.37 | Corgan | :D |
| 05:02.09 | Corgan | 70 druid mage lock, 67 warrior, 62 pally, 60 priest, 47 shaman, 36 hunter |
| 05:02.15 | Xelopheris | I raid with 4, but being the HKM/Gruul/5th mag add tank keeps them from hitting up 25 mans |
| 05:02.15 | Corgan | and a low level rogue |
| 05:02.20 | Corgan | that is going to be leveled last |
| 05:03.03 | Paene | Xinhuan: yeah, I figured that out shortly after posting here...simply misread the API entry for it. The function is working correctly now. |
| 05:03.16 | Xelopheris | rogues are kinda fun to level up, but the lack of good swords while levelling is a bitch |
| 05:03.29 | Corgan | I tried leveling my friends rogue at 60 |
| 05:03.33 | Corgan | it was a pain |
| 05:03.34 | Corgan | he was like |
| 05:03.44 | Corgan | sublety |
| 05:03.48 | Corgan | with shadowstep |
| 05:03.49 | Xelopheris | I levelled combat maces |
| 05:03.56 | Corgan | I would have respecced |
| 05:04.06 | Corgan | but he got all pissed last time i did |
| 05:04.21 | Xelopheris | man, respeccing other people is so lame |
| 05:04.28 | Xelopheris | the most I do is change the ranks of their spells on their bar |
| 05:04.32 | Corgan | I asked him before |
| 05:04.35 | Corgan | I did the first time |
| 05:04.42 | Corgan | he was like, yeah sure |
| 05:04.45 | Xelopheris | One of my friend's mages, I upranked his frost nova to max rank. Took him a week to realize |
| 05:05.00 | Corgan | he comes back on, then bitches at me that he can't play with the specc i gave him |
| 05:05.03 | Corgan | (combat swords) |
| 05:05.19 | orionshock | it's mod[event]() not mod.event{} |
| 05:05.25 | orionshock | *it's mod[event]() not mod.event() |
| 05:05.29 | Corgan | I was like "...ok have fun leveling pvp specced" |
| 05:07.24 | Xelopheris | meh, combat maces = pvp spec, but it's great for levelling |
| 05:07.36 | break19 | uhm.. just because YOU suck and cant level with subtlety, doesnt mean nobody can. :p |
| 05:08.18 | Xelopheris | levelling as combat is easier |
| 05:08.25 | break19 | I was shadowstep from as soon as I could get it, until I hit 70.. switched to mutilate after trying all of em |
| 05:08.53 | Toadkiller | riveting |
| 05:09.09 | break19 | i couldnt stand combat sword spec.. i felt like I was fighting in slow motion. |
| 05:09.39 | Xelopheris | few times I've done mutilate it's pretty fun -- you have to pay so much effing attention to your CPs |
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| 05:10.52 | Corgan | break19, he eventually quit the game because he hated trying to level |
| 05:10.58 | break19 | heh. not really.. if in group pve, land 2 mutilates, finishing move, rinse/repeat.. |
| 05:11.04 | Corgan | and wouldn't admit that it was his crappy spec |
| 05:11.34 | break19 | Corgan: again.. then he sucked.. because *I* levelled from 40ish to 70 as subtlety.. |
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| 05:11.58 | Corgan | his spec was focused on getting big ambush crits |
| 05:12.03 | Corgan | because he liked seeing them |
| 05:12.07 | break19 | farming was super-quick.. kill one, stealth, ss to the next, ambush |
| 05:12.40 | Xelopheris | you have to be overgeared and kill underlevel mobs that you can just burst down |
| 05:14.26 | break19 | Xelopheris: I was geared around average, and killin the blood elves in, uhm.. that place... shit.. cant think of the name of it.. but they were 50-53 level.. they were orange to red to me.. but they were all casters, and I had a bit of +hit.. |
| 05:14.44 | Xelopheris | well, casters makes it that much easier |
| 05:15.38 | break19 | yea, only problem I had was when the little shits decided to run and grab the group of 30. |
| 05:15.53 | break19 | ok, so it wasnt 30.. just felt like it when I get ganked by em :p |
| 05:16.14 | break19 | it |
| 05:17.14 | break19 | it'd be like.. "hm, 2.. no prob, sap 1, drop other, kill sap" except, as Im killin the first, he runs away, I chase, drop him, bout this time, theres a respawn just close enough to get me.. etc etc etc. |
| 05:18.08 | Xelo|zZz | later |
| 05:18.28 | break19 | then, as Im finishin up the respawn... the sapped one comes out, and starts blastin me from 40yds away.. sprint over.. blind+fa, crazy times.. usually managed to pull it off, but not always.. was fun tho. :) |
| 05:19.03 | break19 | but I've gotten bored of the game entirely, plus, with a newborn in the house, kinda hard to find a few hours here and there to play and do instances.. |
| 05:19.20 | orionshock | the shittyiest pvp is same class vs same class |
| 05:20.33 | break19 | orionshock: depends on the POV: I would dare-say the shittiest PVP, from the PoV of the lvl 10, is being repeatedly ganked by a ?? |
| 05:20.45 | orionshock | lol |
| 05:20.49 | orionshock | no thats just screwed |
| 05:21.01 | break19 | still pretty shitty from the level 10's view :p |
| 05:30.14 | orionshock | ever sense patch that booted the afk'ers out... horde has won 8-10 |
| 05:30.18 | orionshock | it's so nice |
| 05:32.25 | CIA-12 | 03xinhuan * r51228 10WoWEquip/localization.deDE.lua: WoWEquip: - Add initial deDE localization. |
| 05:33.07 | orionshock | is this the right syntax? |
| 05:33.09 | orionshock | if mod[event] == func() then |
| 05:33.22 | Nargiddley | to do what ? |
| 05:33.34 | Xinhuan | ^ |
| 05:33.53 | orionshock | ... event handler .. one sec le me throw up a pastie |
| 05:34.06 | Xinhuan | if type(mod[event]) == "function" then mod[event]() end |
| 05:34.22 | orionshock | http://ace.pastey.net/74977 |
| 05:34.34 | Xinhuan | assuming you defined your functions as mod:EVENT_NAME() |
| 05:34.55 | orionshock | yes |
| 05:35.09 | orionshock | it's a rather convenient method |
| 05:35.22 | Xinhuan | you need to change your function a bit |
| 05:35.34 | Xinhuan | line 3 is incorrect |
| 05:35.44 | Xinhuan | and line 4 should be |
| 05:35.52 | Xinhuan | mod[event](...) |
| 05:35.56 | orionshock | http://ace.pastey.net/74978 |
| 05:35.58 | Xinhuan | no need to send the event as an arg |
| 05:36.08 | Xinhuan | when you already know what event it is |
| 05:37.33 | Xinhuan | line 37 is also incorrect |
| 05:37.39 | Xinhuan | you didn't define v |
| 05:37.44 | Xinhuan | which is used on line 38 |
| 05:38.02 | Xinhuan | similarly in line 43 and 44 |
| 05:38.08 | Xinhuan | you are unregistering a number |
| 05:38.32 | Xinhuan | for key, value in pairs(table) do |
| 05:38.42 | Xinhuan | if you omit value, then you only get the key |
| 05:38.52 | orionshock | the table is not a k = "v" table |
| 05:38.58 | orionshock | just a "v" table |
| 05:39.04 | CIA-12 | 03nemes * r51229 10NShakedown/ (Addons/CooldownTimers2.lua Addons/PitBull.lua NShakedown.toc): |
| 05:39.04 | CIA-12 | NShakedown: |
| 05:39.04 | CIA-12 | - TOC -> 2.2 |
| 05:39.04 | CIA-12 | - Fix PitBull OnClick call error |
| 05:39.04 | CIA-12 | - Fix CDT2 profile error |
| 05:39.12 | Xinhuan | remember pairs() is a iterater function that returns 2 values |
| 05:39.28 | Xinhuan | incorrect orion |
| 05:39.32 | orionshock | is there an iterator that just returns one value? |
| 05:39.38 | Xinhuan | no. |
| 05:39.41 | Xinhuan | it always returns 2 values |
| 05:39.58 | Xinhuan | you can use a dummy variable if you only want the 2nd value |
| 05:40.13 | Xinhuan | your table defined in lines 19-26 are indexed numerically |
| 05:40.18 | orionshock | but i don't have 2 values, i just have one |
| 05:40.34 | orionshock | .... ok i understand now |
| 05:40.39 | Nargiddley | orionshock, all tables are k = v, the type you're describing are just integer indexed |
| 05:40.55 | Xinhuan | a = {"abc", "def"} is the same as a = {[1] = "abc", [2] = "def"} |
| 05:40.59 | Xinhuan | get it? |
| 05:41.09 | orionshock | i caught that |
| 05:41.37 | Xinhuan | also you don't actually need to check for the existence of mod[event] as a function |
| 05:41.40 | orionshock | http://ace.pastey.net/74980 |
| 05:41.47 | Xinhuan | if you KNOW you defined the function in your code, why even bother checking? |
| 05:42.10 | Xinhuan | just call mod[event](...) and be done with it |
| 05:42.15 | orionshock | Xinhuan: generic consistency with what i've read.. |
| 05:42.27 | Xinhuan | there's no need to, just adds extra processing time |
| 05:42.31 | Xinhuan | you might as well have just done |
| 05:42.34 | orionshock | true |
| 05:42.36 | Xinhuan | if event == "abc" then |
| 05:42.43 | Xinhuan | elseif event == "def" then |
| 05:42.48 | Xinhuan | if you're goign to do all that checking |
| 05:43.07 | Xinhuan | remember you are adding a table + function call overhead here |
| 05:43.14 | Xinhuan | table lookup because you do mod[event] |
| 05:43.24 | Xinhuan | and function call overhead because you do () |
| 05:44.00 | Xinhuan | so unless you have registered for about 10 or so events, even this is not necessary and isn't better than a if then elseif elseif else approach |
| 05:45.10 | Xinhuan | don't complicate things more than necessary |
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| 05:45.27 | orionshock | you've got good points, but your a bad teacher :P |
| 05:45.54 | Xinhuan | if you arrange the if then else, etc events in the order of "most probably event" to least, its optimized in itself |
| 05:46.01 | orionshock | http://ace.pastey.net/74981 |
| 05:46.10 | Nandini | if .. then is extremely efficient for predictable situations |
| 05:46.46 | Xinhuan | also why are you registering PLAYER_ALIVE? |
| 05:47.01 | orionshock | it's something that is fired late in the login proccess :D |
| 05:47.12 | orionshock | right? |
| 05:47.18 | CIA-12 | 03hegarol * r51230 10AtlasLoot_BCInstances/burningcrusade.en.lua: |
| 05:47.18 | CIA-12 | AtlasLoot_BCInstances: |
| 05:47.18 | CIA-12 | - Missing Quagmirran item added |
| 05:47.48 | Xinhuan | you should just register all those events at a single go on loading |
| 05:47.49 | orionshock | i figured it be a good point to attach the OnEnable() |
| 05:48.06 | Xinhuan | i don't see any particular reason why you would need to register them at the particular time at PLAYER_LOGIN |
| 05:48.31 | orionshock | ... ok , then what event should it be? |
| 05:48.41 | Xinhuan | don't need an event |
| 05:48.45 | orionshock | ? |
| 05:48.48 | orionshock | true... |
| 05:48.51 | Xinhuan | just register all of them like PLAYER_LOGIN |
| 05:48.55 | Xinhuan | one per line |
| 05:49.18 | CIA-12 | 03kaelten 07Alpha * r51231 10Ace3/AceHook-3.0/AceHook-3.0.lua: Ace3: further refactoring of AceHook |
| 05:49.29 | orionshock | not like i have anythign enabling or disabling this thing... |
| 05:50.14 | chexsum | you wont have access to things like UnitName etc until after player login so it might be needed |
| 05:50.44 | Xinhuan | UnitName is actually available all the time |
| 05:50.46 | chexsum | player entering world is what people normally use |
| 05:51.04 | Xinhuan | slouken changed it so that UnitName("player") is always available, so is the server name |
| 05:51.09 | Xinhuan | on loading |
| 05:51.31 | orionshock | well it's not like your going to doing your dailys before PEW ... |
| 05:51.34 | chexsum | well there might be other things :P |
| 05:52.08 | Xinhuan | you will use ADDON_LOADED for 1-time initialization |
| 05:52.26 | Xinhuan | or PLAYER_ENTERING_WORLD for anything that will need to be run after a loading screen |
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| 05:52.29 | orionshock | Xinhuan: if you couldn't tell - i got most of those methods from wowWiki under the generic context of how to write an event handler that works well :D |
| 05:52.57 | Xinhuan | the wowwiki stuff isn't wrong, its just overkill for small addons :) |
| 05:53.07 | Xinhuan | and adds unnecessary complexity |
| 05:53.17 | orionshock | ya.. i know |
| 05:53.19 | orionshock | http://ace.pastey.net/74982 |
| 05:53.23 | orionshock | is what it turned into |
| 05:53.53 | Xinhuan | yep, and that's all you need, plus the functions to be defined |
| 05:54.00 | Xinhuan | for each event |
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| 05:54.49 | Xinhuan | line 2 is incorrect |
| 05:55.00 | Xinhuan | change it to |
| 05:55.00 | Xinhuan | function(self, event, ...) |
| 05:55.21 | orionshock | ... ya don't really care about myself :P |
| 05:55.30 | Xinhuan | you need "self" as the first argument |
| 05:55.38 | Xinhuan | because it is always passed |
| 05:55.38 | orionshock | why? |
| 05:55.48 | Xinhuan | on a :setscript() |
| 05:56.08 | Xinhuan | wow adds function wrappers to all OnBlah scripts |
| 05:56.15 | Xinhuan | self, event, arg1, arg2, .... etc |
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| 05:56.41 | Xinhuan | so function(self, event, ...) will get everything |
| 05:57.00 | Xinhuan | and calling mod[event](...) will pass all the relevant arguments to the event function |
| 05:57.02 | orionshock | but you seee i don't care bout everything else.. |
| 05:57.21 | Xinhuan | you still need the "self" argument there |
| 05:57.27 | orionshock | ok |
| 05:57.28 | Nargiddley | you do care about event, which is currently recieving self |
| 05:57.37 | Xinhuan | otherwise your "event" variable will contain a rerefence to mod.eventframe |
| 05:57.49 | orionshock | hehe.. |
| 05:58.33 | orionshock | ok.. http://shock-wow.googlecode.com/svn/trunk/SickOfClickingDailys/core.lua |
| 05:58.36 | orionshock | there we go :D |
| 05:59.29 | Xinhuan | going to assume you haven't tested it ;p |
| 05:59.45 | orionshock | no sorta AFK ing in AV & coding at the same time |
| 06:00.09 | orionshock | it was initaly written with aceEvent - then RockEvent.. then i decided to write my own |
| 06:00.28 | Nargiddley | you're still mixing in RockEvent |
| 06:00.40 | orionshock | actualy no |
| 06:00.45 | orionshock | it should be commented out |
| 06:00.46 | Xinhuan | aceevent and rockevent is merely doing what you're doing as a event handler |
| 06:01.05 | Xinhuan | its just that in aceevent and rockevent, they change the variable "mod" to point to your mod |
| 06:01.06 | Nargiddley | you could improve the npc and quest lists as well |
| 06:01.12 | orionshock | exactly but with a personal event handler- i get rid of unNeeded libs |
| 06:01.28 | Nargiddley | change them to ["Name"] = true and then the check is if npcs[name] instead of a loop |
| 06:01.52 | orionshock | humm.... |
| 06:02.02 | orionshock | that would work a hell of a lot better :D |
| 06:02.04 | Xinhuan | what Nargiddley means is, instead of making a numberically indexed table of quest names |
| 06:02.16 | Xinhuan | make it a dictionary of questnames indexed table |
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| 06:03.32 | Diao | hm |
| 06:03.50 | Xinhuan | afk :) |
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| 06:14.55 | orionshock | aight time to go get this code wet... |
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| 06:19.56 | Thorgard | Hmm, Click2Cast's 'create new keybinding' thing seems a bit broken. It's not accept mouse4/5 buttons in the new config thing while it did just fine using the old config system. |
| 06:21.33 | orionshock | a frame has to be visable to recieve events ? |
| 06:21.50 | Nandini | yes for performance reasons |
| 06:22.20 | Nandini | hidden frames do not receive events, you can position your frame off-screen or set its alpha to 0 |
| 06:22.28 | Nandini | (or both) |
| 06:23.22 | Nandini | if you anchor the bottom right of your frame to the top left of UIParent, it will never be seen on screen |
| 06:23.22 | ckknight | false. |
| 06:23.28 | ckknight | hidden frames receive events. |
| 06:23.35 | ckknight | hidden frames do not get OnUpdate fired, though |
| 06:23.50 | Nandini | ahh and most people use onupdate for timer-based things |
| 06:25.44 | orionshock | im trying to UnFramework my simple mod... |
| 06:25.52 | orionshock | not as easy as i thought it would be |
| 06:30.13 | CIA-12 | 03andyca * r51232 10Babble-2.2/Babble-Quest-2.2/Babble-Quest-2.2.lua: |
| 06:30.13 | CIA-12 | Babble-2.2:Update Buble-Quest-2.2 zhTW quest names |
| 06:30.13 | CIA-12 | - |
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| 06:32.53 | orionshock | bubble quest? |
| 06:33.37 | Nandini | lost in translation :) |
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| 06:39.35 | orionshock | Xinhuan: nice part about the method you told me about, and even before, i don't even have to localize the quest titles, i just have to add them to the list :D |
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| 06:46.53 | orionshock | babble quest imho seems to be a bit over the top... |
| 06:47.18 | Nandini | i haven't looked, is it an entire database of quests? |
| 06:47.29 | orionshock | a fuck load of em |
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| 06:48.02 | Nandini | just names or details as well? |
| 06:48.05 | orionshock | only addon i know of that ~might~ bennifit would be cart_Quest & objectives |
| 06:48.07 | orionshock | just names |
| 06:48.31 | Nandini | i think there's already a chinese version of quest and objectives database |
| 06:58.33 | orionshock | well .. got that mod cleaned up :D |
| 06:58.48 | Nandini | it's a lean, mean, questing machine now? |
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| 07:02.39 | CIA-12 | 03ackis * r51233 10AckisRecipeList/ (ARLLocals-enUS.lua ARLLocals-frFR.lua AckisRecipeList.lua): |
| 07:02.39 | CIA-12 | AckisRecipeList: |
| 07:02.39 | CIA-12 | - Added leatherworking patterns |
| 07:02.39 | CIA-12 | - Changed some localizations to use common terms (ie: for MC boss drops, etc) |
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| 07:09.38 | CIA-12 | tekkub-wow: 03tekkub * r596 10/trunk/teknicolor/teknicolor.lua: teknicolor - this should fix issue #42 |
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| 07:13.44 | orionshock | no ... it helps me be lazy Nandini |
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| 07:14.09 | Diao | !ap 1900 |
| 07:14.09 | ThraeBot | Diao: Arena points from a rating of 1900 is, 2v2: 626, 3v3: 715, 5v5: 894 |
| 07:14.14 | orionshock | ive come to the conclusion that my comptuer dosn't do UTF8 or anythign properly and that lua in dos is fooked |
| 07:18.53 | orionshock | well i guess the koren's are kind a fucked when it comes to tattle, either that or some one else who dosn't have fubar'ed computer will have to do it. |
| 07:19.39 | orionshock | all i want is the escape code version of the classes in kr |
| 07:26.37 | CIA-12 | tekkub-wow: 03tekkub * r597 10/trunk/tekErr/tekErr.lua: tekErr - fixed list not being scrollable (WTF?) |
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| 07:55.53 | Nargiddley | orionshock, my experience is that lua doesnt like the byte order marker. If you can set UTF-8 without BOM in your editor it should work |
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| 07:59.28 | orionshock | Nargiddley: sorry my computer dosn't melee it needed BoW not BoM... |
| 08:00.11 | Gnarfoz | strangely enough, in wow itself, the BOM doesn't seem to cause any problems |
| 08:00.43 | Gnarfoz | (unless of course, someone edits a file that has one with an editor not capable of recognizing it, thus converting it to plain text ^^) |
| 08:00.45 | orionshock | what is BOM? |
| 08:00.57 | Gnarfoz | ~wiki byte-order-marker |
| 08:01.03 | Gnarfoz | ~wiki byte-ordermarker |
| 08:01.05 | Gnarfoz | ~wiki byte-order marker |
| 08:01.11 | Gnarfoz | blahhh |
| 08:01.12 | Gnarfoz | :p |
| 08:01.55 | Marli | ~wiki Byte-order mark |
| 08:02.06 | Nargiddley | orionshock, what editor do you use ? |
| 08:02.17 | orionshock | SciTE |
| 08:03.09 | Fisker- | What's the link to WAU 1.9 publish site? |
| 08:03.14 | CIA-12 | 03recluse * r51234 10NiHao/NiHao.lua: |
| 08:03.14 | CIA-12 | NiHao: |
| 08:03.14 | CIA-12 | - Add short caption option |
| 08:03.14 | CIA-12 | - Synchronized and colorized pause message flashes |
| 08:03.50 | Recluse | i tried scite and i liked it except for the gutter's look. bothered me so i went back to npp |
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| 08:04.11 | Nargiddley | not sure where the option will be in that :/ |
| 08:04.11 | orionshock | is it free? |
| 08:04.18 | orionshock | npp |
| 08:04.19 | Recluse | scite's free |
| 08:04.24 | Recluse | npp yeah |
| 08:04.27 | Nargiddley | notepad++ is based on scite |
| 08:04.35 | Nargiddley | and yeah its free |
| 08:04.39 | Antiarc|Lapto1 | npp and Scite are both based on Scintilla |
| 08:04.49 | orionshock | linky? |
| 08:04.50 | Fisker- | Antiarc|Lapto1 ! |
| 08:04.54 | Nargiddley | same diff |
| 08:04.55 | Fisker- | What burning app did you use again? |
| 08:05.00 | Antiarc|Lapto1 | InfraRecorder |
| 08:05.04 | Fisker- | Also you wouldn't happen to know a good defrag tool? |
| 08:05.10 | Recluse | npp just "feels" better for me personally is all, no major differences lol |
| 08:05.18 | Antiarc|Lapto1 | I downloaded one at one point, but I don't remember the na,e |
| 08:05.24 | Antiarc|Lapto1 | I use it to defrag my mpq files though |
| 08:05.31 | Kerafyrm | Diskeeper? |
| 08:06.25 | Antiarc|Lapto1 | I don't remember the name |
| 08:06.34 | Fisker- | does infrarecorder support image burning? |
| 08:06.38 | Antiarc|Lapto1 | Yes |
| 08:06.38 | Fisker- | i.e. can i burn from an image |
| 08:06.41 | Fisker- | nice |
| 08:06.50 | Antiarc|Lapto1 | It's a full Nero replacement since Nero sucks now |
| 08:06.55 | Fisker- | ye |
| 08:07.06 | Kerafyrm | what happened to nerO/ |
| 08:07.11 | Fisker- | I installed the 8 edition and because i was in a hurry i didn't care about options |
| 08:07.11 | CIA-12 | 03cwdg * r51235 10LittleWigs/HellfireCitadel/Broggok.lua: |
| 08:07.11 | CIA-12 | LittleWigs: |
| 08:07.11 | CIA-12 | update zhCN local |
| 08:07.13 | Antiarc|Lapto1 | It got bloated |
| 08:07.17 | Antiarc|Lapto1 | It went the way of EasyCD Creator |
| 08:07.19 | Kerafyrm | bleh thats no fun |
| 08:07.21 | Fisker- | turns out it pretty much took over each and every file association on the system |
| 08:07.29 | Kerafyrm | :( |
| 08:07.31 | Fisker- | when i opened a picture in IE it would pop up and start nero |
| 08:07.34 | Kerafyrm | nero was soo good to |
| 08:07.37 | Fisker- | and show the picture there instead |
| 08:08.11 | Recluse | hooray! dailies reset. time to get my beer keg goat! |
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| 08:14.22 | Fisker- | damn |
| 08:14.29 | Fisker- | i feel a cold coming down |
| 08:15.33 | Fisker- | i think it'll hit this wednesday |
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| 08:20.32 | orionshock | ahh... can't compile in npp |
| 08:26.53 | Antiarc|Lapto1 | It's a text editor, not an IDE |
| 08:27.04 | Kerafyrm | lol |
| 08:27.31 | Recluse | i wish Blua woulda panned out. it had some nice ideas |
| 08:27.32 | orionshock | :( same error |
| 08:28.24 | orionshock | lua5.1: new2.lua:1: unexpected symbol near 'â©' |
| 08:28.43 | Nargiddley | orionshock, goto the format menu and pick the bottom one, UTF-8 Without BOM |
| 08:28.44 | Marli | so I just instaled, then uninstalled Nero, and restarted my PC. now my PC locks up whenever I put a disk in the drive |
| 08:28.45 | Marli | :( |
| 08:29.12 | orionshock | not an option |
| 08:29.20 | Nargiddley | in Notepad++ ? |
| 08:29.31 | orionshock | it's there but gray'ed out |
| 08:30.28 | Nargiddley | make sure you have a copy of the file somewhere, it seems to be greyed out when UTF-8 is selected |
| 08:30.38 | Nargiddley | changing to ANSI lets me check it |
| 08:32.32 | orionshock | that worked but now im back to my first problem... |
| 08:32.47 | orionshock | >.> |
| 08:36.20 | orionshock | lua5.1: new2.lua:431: attempt to index local 'lens' (a nil value) |
| 08:36.24 | orionshock | ... so... |
| 08:36.29 | orionshock | i have more debug to do |
| 08:37.29 | cncfanatics | if(lens) then end |
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| 08:38.16 | CIA-12 | FuBar_PetInfoFu: |
| 08:38.16 | CIA-12 | - minor edits to happiness tracker |
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| 08:51.23 | Grum | morning |
| 08:51.26 | cncfanatics | hmmm, any way to get the traducted version of Cat Form directly from globalstrings somewhere ? or would I need babble ? can't seem to find it |
| 08:53.16 | orionshock | sorry cncfanatics can't do that in this regard :D |
| 08:53.39 | CIA-12 | 03rabbit * r51237 10SpyGnome/ (SpyGnome.lua locales/enUS.lua): SpyGnome: Remove the 4 addon limit. No limit now, but obviously at some point the tablet will just become too wide for your own good if you push it. |
| 08:53.47 | cncfanatics | that sucks, I don't want to use babble just to traduct cat form |
| 08:54.09 | cncfanatics | cat form is state 2 or 3 right ? |
| 08:55.04 | orionshock | 3 usualy |
| 08:55.13 | cncfanatics | or 2 if said druid was too lazy to do seal form quest :) |
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| 08:56.57 | xeno | hi, just have a question... I'm trying to write a message that gives me a huge warning at Solarians bomb |
| 08:57.49 | xeno | and the lua code itself is no problem... I've also made a UI .xml file, that defines a warning frame |
| 08:57.53 | orionshock | big wigs? |
| 08:58.03 | xeno | nah, I need something with a bigger warning :) |
| 08:58.06 | Dustwhisper | Elkbuffbars |
| 08:58.09 | Dustwhisper | created a new group |
| 08:58.15 | Dustwhisper | add "Wrath of the astromancer" to that group on whitelist |
| 08:58.18 | Dustwhisper | set scale to very big |
| 08:58.22 | Dustwhisper | move anchor to center of screen |
| 08:58.29 | Dustwhisper | You get a bigass bar for the bomb in middle of screen |
| 08:58.43 | xeno | gonna look at it... |
| 08:58.48 | xeno | but now on to my question :) |
| 08:58.54 | Dustwhisper | I had to instruct all my guildmates to do that cause to many tards blew us up. in the end though someone just had to call everytime aswell =D |
| 08:59.39 | xeno | same thingie here... but anyway, I've defined thise MessageFrame, with a name, let's say Foo |
| 09:00.07 | Codayus | I saw an addon on curse that turns your entire screen blue |
| 09:00.08 | xeno | and it loads, I've verified this, since if I put crap in its OnLoad section, it fails |
| 09:00.35 | Codayus | Not that it helps you with your question; just saying. :-) |
| 09:00.47 | Grum | Dustwhisper: why not us addons that tell people they have it? |
| 09:00.55 | xeno | but the problem is, if I try to do Foo:AddMessage from my lua code, it just craps itself since Foo isn't a defined global |
| 09:01.14 | Codayus | Grum: People ignore whispers, messages, sounds, and people yelling at them on vent. :-) |
| 09:01.17 | xeno | when looking at other addons, they don't define globals.. they just use the frame names... so why? |
| 09:01.19 | orionshock | then you did something wrong in your xml file |
| 09:01.31 | Grum | btw i have a nice idea for an addon where you basicly have some wavs: 'RUN AWAY FROM PEOPLE!!!!!', 'MOVE MOVE MOVE MOVE MOVE' etc |
| 09:01.33 | orionshock | or your no loading it from the toc |
| 09:01.40 | Grum | for when you have the bomb or static charge |
| 09:01.54 | Grum | or when you are standing in a void-zone or charred earth |
| 09:02.06 | xeno | a |
| 09:02.35 | Dustwhisper | Grum it's kinda overkill to have to install an addon for each boss/debuff you need to watch |
| 09:02.41 | xeno | well, what I was planning was that when you got the bomb, you got "YOU ARE\nTHE BOMB" in big red screen-filling letters... |
| 09:02.42 | Dustwhisper | easier to just use normal mods to do what you want |
| 09:02.48 | Grum | Dustwhisper: it's called Bigwigs O.o |
| 09:02.54 | kandarz | any experts of table sorting able to spare a minute to help me? |
| 09:02.54 | Grum | or DBM |
| 09:02.56 | Dustwhisper | Bigwigs is generic |
| 09:02.59 | Dustwhisper | everyone uses bigwigs |
| 09:03.01 | Dustwhisper | still |
| 09:03.12 | Dustwhisper | a bigass warningbar in middle of screen from EBB is better than bigwigs warnings |
| 09:03.16 | Grum | kandarz: what is the problem? |
| 09:03.16 | xeno | using DBM - but still, I wanna be able to do stuff like that... |
| 09:03.18 | Dustwhisper | especially since a lot play without sound |
| 09:03.37 | Grum | Dustwhisper: l2getbetterpeople ^^ |
| 09:03.43 | Dustwhisper | true |
| 09:03.56 | Codayus | http://www.curse.com/downloads/details/9539/ |
| 09:04.31 | vhaarr | xeno: You can scale the bigwigs message frame, you know |
| 09:04.38 | Codayus | If you want someone elses solution for making it unmissable. *shrug* |
| 09:04.39 | xeno | well, my problem with the DBM warnings is that I've loaded about 80 addons (currently, usually twice as many, but too many not updated after patch), and a lot of them spam my screen... so too much too look at and too subtle warnings |
| 09:04.55 | vhaarr | xeno: or edit the bossmod to scale the bigwigs message frame for just that warning, and then scale back |
| 09:05.01 | Codayus | Good UI design *does* help raiding. :-) |
| 09:05.05 | kandarz | Grum, well, I have a data file, of quests, in the order I want them to appear in a scroll list, but in game, they aren't in that order, so I assume I need to table.sort it in lua to get what I want. Except I'm not sure how to go about writing my table comp function to sort by "column D" decending, then by "column C" acsending, then by "column A" ascending |
| 09:05.08 | xeno | vhaarr: well, I don't want generic scaling, usually the messages I get are the right size... it's just this one I want huge |
| 09:05.12 | Grum | xeno: lol .. you actually dont load addons because they are marked 'out of date' ? :) |
| 09:05.20 | vhaarr | xeno: then fucking read what I said dude |
| 09:05.22 | Grum | just load em, 99.9% will still work |
| 09:05.43 | Grum | kandarz: hmmm |
| 09:05.45 | xeno | Grum: yes, since if I load 160 out of date addons, some of them are bound to make problems... the ones I really need, I update the toc of... |
| 09:05.46 | Codayus | Maybe bigwigs needs a super emphasized frame? :-D (Note: Kidding.) |
| 09:06.16 | vhaarr | Codayus: we don't emphasize messages at the moment |
| 09:06.19 | vhaarr | only bars |
| 09:06.24 | Codayus | Hmm, |
| 09:06.53 | xeno | vhaarr: gonna try that... |
| 09:06.53 | Codayus | True. |
| 09:06.53 | vhaarr | xeno: seriously, your problem is a retarded one |
| 09:06.53 | Grum | kandarz: what you can do is making a list of 'comparison' functions |
| 09:06.53 | Codayus | Sorry, I'm half asleep. Please ignore me. :-) |
| 09:06.53 | vhaarr | xeno: tell your guildmates they need to pay attention |
| 09:06.57 | Grum | and putting them in a list based on the order you want to apply them |
| 09:07.02 | xeno | vhaarr: it's just as much for myself... |
| 09:07.14 | orionshock | vhaarr: what a nice way of putting it... tho i prolly would have said so myself |
| 09:07.22 | vhaarr | xeno: so, I'm saying you're retarded |
| 09:07.32 | vhaarr | it's not hard to pay attention |
| 09:07.32 | Grum | whenever the first comparison ends up on an 'there items are equal' (for example quests for the same level or in the same area) then pick off the second comparison function |
| 09:07.35 | Grum | and check that one |
| 09:07.51 | xeno | thanks... still that means I need that workaround for my retardedness |
| 09:07.52 | Grum | keep doing that and you will be able to sort 'decently' |
| 09:07.59 | vhaarr | yeah, stop raiding |
| 09:08.17 | Grum | xeno: lol you edit your addons? |
| 09:08.39 | Grum | seriously, just load out of date addons and *IF* any give problems .. then just disable them |
| 09:08.48 | orionshock | no no |
| 09:08.52 | orionshock | don't do any of that shit |
| 09:08.57 | orionshock | ... delete all your mods |
| 09:08.59 | Grum | yes! |
| 09:09.04 | Grum | DOH! that was so obvious |
| 09:09.09 | orionshock | ... learn to play with out for a week or 2 |
| 09:09.15 | Grum | sorry orionshock :'( |
| 09:09.18 | orionshock | then add back in the ones that TRUELY MAKE THE DIFFERENCE |
| 09:09.24 | Grum | all of them! |
| 09:09.46 | orionshock | seriously half the mods that are in current circulation are just fluff |
| 09:09.53 | vhaarr | xeno: anyway, Codayus posted the right addon for you |
| 09:09.55 | vhaarr | xeno: http://www.curse.com/downloads/details/9539/ |
| 09:10.04 | QuantumDelta | heh orionshock |
| 09:10.06 | Grum | most fluff is needed for an optimal experience |
| 09:10.19 | QuantumDelta | I have almost 300 objects in my addons folders (admittedly several are libs) |
| 09:10.25 | Corgan | I <3 fluff |
| 09:10.27 | QuantumDelta | folder* |
| 09:10.36 | Grum | i dont even dare to count em |
| 09:10.37 | orionshock | Grum: My Foot -- up Your Ass, optimal experiance.... LOL |
| 09:10.44 | xeno | yay! exactly what I needed :) |
| 09:10.48 | Grum | 374 .. yay! |
| 09:10.49 | QuantumDelta | I REAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAALLY wouldn't have the energy to remake my ui :< |
| 09:10.50 | Codayus | 378 folders in my addonds directory... |
| 09:10.54 | Grum | orionshock: wiggle toes pl0x |
| 09:10.55 | Codayus | Heh |
| 09:11.07 | xeno | thanks Codayus :) |
| 09:11.16 | orionshock | that'll cost you extra |
| 09:11.21 | Grum | 12COPPIR |
| 09:12.14 | CIA-12 | 03fenlis * r51238 10FuBar_QuestsFu/ (7 files in 7 dirs): |
| 09:12.14 | CIA-12 | FuBar_QuestsFu: |
| 09:12.14 | CIA-12 | - Updated localization koKR |
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| 09:15.05 | Lothaer | G'Day |
| 09:16.08 | CIA-12 | 03ominous * r51239 10Tattle/ (25 files in 25 dirs): Tattle: daily run of the dataminer |
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| 09:17.32 | Grum | orionshock: most addons are needed and most are cosmetic ones |
| 09:17.44 | orionshock | lol |
| 09:18.11 | Lothaer | Omen/KTM very needed |
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| 09:18.36 | orionshock | if i had to live with only 5 addons , the'd be Bartender3, Pitbull, ItemRack, Hourglass, RBB |
| 09:18.39 | orionshock | bout it |
| 09:18.48 | Lothaer | Omen? |
| 09:19.02 | orionshock | no not omen |
| 09:19.06 | CIA-12 | 03ackis * r51240 10AckisRecipeList/ (ARLLocals-enUS.lua AckisRecipeList.lua): |
| 09:19.06 | CIA-12 | AckisRecipeList: |
| 09:19.06 | CIA-12 | - Massive leatherworking update |
| 09:19.06 | CIA-12 | - Leatherworking localization created |
| 09:19.07 | orionshock | im better than that :P |
| 09:19.14 | Kerafyrm | omen, swstats, metahud and bongos for me |
| 09:19.15 | Lothaer | then u musnt raid |
| 09:19.22 | kandarz | tanks don't need omen! |
| 09:19.22 | orionshock | lol Lothaer |
| 09:19.28 | Grum | kandarz: lol |
| 09:19.30 | orionshock | threat meters = crutch |
| 09:19.36 | Grum | not really |
| 09:19.37 | kandarz | yo |
| 09:19.39 | orionshock | if you can't raid w/o them you shouldn't be |
| 09:19.46 | Grum | threatmeters allow me to maximize my dps without risks |
| 09:19.47 | kandarz | pitbull comes with threat, don't need omen! haha |
| 09:19.54 | Kerafyrm | i'm with grum |
| 09:19.55 | Lothaer | X-Perl, Titan, Atlas, BigWigs, Omen |
| 09:19.57 | orionshock | ok take that out, i don't even use it |
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| 09:20.30 | orionshock | your not Nilium, your not DnT, and i doubt that your in BT, you don't NEED Threat meters |
| 09:20.44 | kandarz | this is like "if you were stranded on a tropical island, what 1 thing would you take?", and that question is dumb |
| 09:20.46 | Marli | or do you |
| 09:20.54 | orionshock | it's nice, it's cool, but if you REQUIRE it to a pass/fail degree, then you shouldn't be raiding |
| 09:20.55 | Kerafyrm | lol |
| 09:21.06 | Grum | i can see if i use my trinkets+cooldowns whether or not i will go past the MT's threat and time em differently |
| 09:21.27 | kandarz | I'm guessing Grum players a rogue, and rugs are all bad |
| 09:21.30 | Grum | if for whatever reason the MT decides to have a sucky moment (misses or stuns for example) - i cant see that |
| 09:21.31 | orionshock | thats where fine tuning comes into play |
| 09:21.37 | kandarz | s/players/plays |
| 09:21.47 | Grum | orionshock: threatmeters allow you to do safe dps at all times |
| 09:22.00 | orionshock | lol |
| 09:22.04 | Grum | i can start when the MT has 2k threat |
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| 09:22.18 | Grum | because i know i wont do that same amount and if i happen to crit twice i'll still be below him |
| 09:22.20 | orionshock | no - if you REquire TM to play your class properly then you need to go back and do trash more and TUNE properly to your MT |
| 09:22.33 | Corgan | oh lawd |
| 09:22.37 | Grum | there are unforseen elements |
| 09:22.44 | Grum | a MT not gettign rage because of 7 dodges in a row |
| 09:22.45 | Corgan | is this a "lol noobs use threatmeters" arguement? |
| 09:22.47 | QuantumDelta | I raid with TM cuz I'm a tank and a raid leader :< |
| 09:22.48 | Grum | nothing you can do about that |
| 09:23.04 | Corgan | I hate these arguements |
| 09:23.06 | Corgan | they're retarded |
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| 09:23.22 | Grum | in my opinion TM are needed to easily maximize dps |
| 09:23.25 | Grum | no 'stupid' overaggros |
| 09:23.28 | Kerafyrm | threat meteres help those who have to watch over the raid force as whole |
| 09:23.28 | Ominous | can someone with a decent notepad tell me if http://svn.wowace.com/wowace/trunk/Tattle/dataminer.lua is in utf-8 and if it is change it so it isnt as the lua binaries dont like utf-8 |
| 09:23.33 | Corgan | it's like saying "lol noobs, you use keybinds, L2Click" |
| 09:23.43 | Corgan | It's an extra function |
| 09:23.45 | QuantumDelta | well it's not like threat meters do anything OVERLY sophisticated |
| 09:23.48 | Corgan | that allows easier play |
| 09:23.58 | orionshock | no this isn't a noobs use TM argument |
| 09:24.12 | orionshock | it's a idiots REQUIRE TM to properly play their class at all argument |
| 09:24.14 | Corgan | "lol, you use health meters, L2Wait for the mob to die" |
| 09:24.25 | Corgan | "just keep dpsing until it dies" |
| 09:24.26 | Grum | and seriously, if one of the persons in my raids do not play with a threatmeter and then either underperform OR pull aggro ... BAYYYY! |
| 09:24.28 | orionshock | as in you suck catostrophicly with out them |
| 09:24.39 | Fisker- | fucking true Corgan |
| 09:24.43 | kandarz | how about an actual lua question: why do my sorted tables (in the .lua file) come up in game all unsorted! |
| 09:25.04 | Corgan | "lol, cast bars? L2Watch for cast animations" |
| 09:25.07 | Grum | kandarz: what kind of tables do you have? |
| 09:25.16 | kandarz | just a table |
| 09:25.17 | Grum | 'tables with named keys' are by default not sorted |
| 09:25.25 | kandarz | they are named keys |
| 09:25.33 | Grum | there u go ^^ |
| 09:25.38 | buu | Corgan: Yeah, and it's not like blizzard deliberately tunes encounters to require maximum dps |
| 09:25.49 | kandarz | but they are sorted in the lua file |
| 09:25.54 | kandarz | so why would wow unsort them |
| 09:25.59 | Grum | kandarz: again, tables with named keys are not sorted |
| 09:26.04 | vhaarr | kandarz: only indexed tables can be sorted |
| 09:26.15 | Grum | if you want an order, define the order in a list |
| 09:26.23 | Grum | that is also the only way to 'sort em' .. |
| 09:26.34 | Corgan | "health bars for tanks? noobs, if the tank dies you're not healing fast enough!" |
| 09:26.37 | Grum | sort the keys and then iterate over the list of sorted keys to get the elements in order |
| 09:26.46 | Grum | Corgan++ |
| 09:28.49 | CIA-12 | 03ominous * r51241 10Tattle/dataminer.lua: |
| 09:28.49 | CIA-12 | Tattle: change dataminer.lua to ANSI from utf-8 as the lua binary dosent |
| 09:28.49 | CIA-12 | like utf-8 |
| 09:29.31 | orionshock | buu: yes they do, and the dps and the tanks should be coordinated enough withou relying on TM all the time to preform an encounter, but.. where back to the old decursive argument.... |
| 09:29.38 | orionshock | and we all know how old that is |
| 09:30.08 | Grum | having the UI selecting for you what to do sucks by default |
| 09:30.29 | Grum | having the UI showing you information that you then have to decide on adds another skillfactor to the game |
| 09:30.42 | orionshock | no not that.. |
| 09:31.13 | buu | orionshock: I'm just confused though. How do you know that the tank has missed 3 shield bashes in a row or the boss has aggro dumped or something similar? |
| 09:31.23 | orionshock | the whole - "Encounters designed arround addons because people are asses and don't want to do an encounter the way blizzard designed it, so the begin designing encounters around addons" |
| 09:31.34 | orionshock | buu - vent |
| 09:31.34 | break19 | what's the newest US servers? |
| 09:31.42 | orionshock | only 3 people should be talking anyways |
| 09:31.46 | Codayus | Vent?! Vents a crutch. Type it in raid chat. |
| 09:31.48 | buu | Heh. |
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| 09:31.58 | buu | Yeah really, blizzard didn't include vent in the game! |
| 09:32.40 | buu | The idea of playing without a TM really sort of scares me =/ |
| 09:32.42 | Fisker- | vent is for n00bs |
| 09:32.44 | orionshock | lol some of you know this game... |
| 09:32.46 | buu | At least on aggro dump fights. |
| 09:32.54 | Kerafyrm | lol theres always the purists |
| 09:33.17 | orionshock | im not a purist, im for playing the game as it comes with the least amount of modifications |
| 09:33.28 | buu | That's THE FUCKING DEFINITION OF A PURIST. |
| 09:33.36 | Kerafyrm | no.. |
| 09:33.51 | Kerafyrm | a purist is as it was given to you.. no 3rd party mods or programs(vent) to help you |
| 09:34.09 | buu | Kerafyrm: It's the same argument, differing only in degree. |
| 09:34.11 | Kerafyrm | minimalists are as few as needed |
| 09:34.15 | orionshock | i'd rather play with a pre-kara blue mage that gives me food and water as the healer at the opening of the instance than a BT-Epixed out mage that does almost nothing till we pull, and then you have to bug him for food or water... |
| 09:34.18 | orionshock | Skill > all |
| 09:34.45 | Kerafyrm | i agree with you there orion |
| 09:34.46 | buu | I wouldn't. Besides, all that means is he hates you. |
| 09:34.55 | Saroz | haha my girlfriend is going completely emo about the rock configuration window, she can't figure out how it works compared to the old Dewdrop menu.. but then again, who can |
| 09:34.59 | Kerafyrm | personality and skill > loots |
| 09:35.09 | orionshock | ... no it means that the mage is a dick and dosn't know the subtle side of how to play his class |
| 09:35.13 | buu | Pah, progression > friendship. Bitches. |
| 09:35.28 | break19 | i'd rather play with someone who knows its a game, and therefore HAVE FUN, rather than some jackass who says "you gotta play it THIS way, so its MOST EFFICIENT.. this is WORK" fuck that shit |
| 09:35.30 | Kerafyrm | and thus comes your "play style" buu |
| 09:35.30 | orionshock | LOL buu, oldschool hag |
| 09:35.36 | Codayus | Friendship > progression. |
| 09:35.40 | Kerafyrm | you want to be the first one to the top of the totem |
| 09:35.45 | Codayus | Which explains why we're still 1/6 SSC, 1/4 TK... |
| 09:36.03 | buu | break19: If I'm going to minmax and farm and play as efficiently as possible.. I want everyone around me to do the same thing so we aren't held back by the weak link. |
| 09:36.07 | Codayus | Oh well, it'd be boring if everyone had the same priorities. :-) |
| 09:36.31 | Kerafyrm | Codayus: too true |
| 09:37.04 | Fisker- | haha universe at war is shit |
| 09:37.15 | Fisker- | i'm laughing at the internets |
| 09:37.17 | break19 | buu: "play as efficiently" ROFLMAO. PLAY+EFFICIENT... the TRUE definition of nerd. |
| 09:37.27 | buu | break19: Or a sports player.. |
| 09:37.40 | Kerafyrm | or anyone who realy takes to heart his or her hobby |
| 09:37.54 | buu | I play WoW much the same way as I played soccer.. as hard as possible. |
| 09:37.55 | orionshock | silly engineer , game is for play, not for nerds. |
| 09:37.57 | buu | The point is to win =] |
| 09:38.31 | break19 | there's nothing to win here.. the game is never over, therefore you CANNOT win, so why try |
| 09:38.48 | buu | break19: You can always achieve victories, even if you never truly win. |
| 09:38.50 | Corgan | [23:27:57] <Grum> Corgan++ |
| 09:38.52 | Corgan | wha? |
| 09:38.52 | Kerafyrm | but you can be the first and the best |
| 09:39.17 | buu | break19: I mean, if you're playing in some tiny soccer league, there's always theoretically better teams you could play, but that's no reason not to enjoy winning the games you play. |
| 09:39.40 | buu | break19: Not to mention the argument that true competition is always with yourself. See marathon runners. |
| 09:40.07 | break19 | zomg, first! if its that damn important to ya, just do it, and shit the fuck up about it already.. i have better things to do than deal with douchebags who tell other people how to play their OWN characters. |
| 09:40.17 | break19 | s/shit/shut |
| 09:40.36 | buu | break19: And uh, I have better things to do than play with people so selfish they only consider themslves? |
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| 09:41.04 | orionshock | lol |
| 09:41.07 | buu | break19: You can do whatever the hell you want when you solo, but as soon as you join a group, you have 4-39 other people depending on you. |
| 09:41.09 | orionshock | guys.... be nice |
| 09:41.13 | break19 | exactly.. you tell ME how to play MY character.. thats pretty selfish.. you cant respect MY desires for the account *I* play.. |
| 09:41.19 | buu | It seems profoundly selfish to claim that at that point those people have no interest in how you play. |
| 09:41.44 | Corgan | you may pay your 14$ a month |
| 09:41.45 | orionshock | brake - when you join a group effort event you surrender your wants and methods to the will of the group -- thats reality |
| 09:41.57 | Corgan | but you dont' pay for the other 24 people in a raid's 14$ |
| 09:41.58 | buu | break19: So you're claiming that your personal enjoyment is more important than the enjoyment of everyone else in your group? |
| 09:41.59 | orionshock | thats with everything |
| 09:42.39 | break19 | orionshock, except.. I wont join those groups. quite frankly. as I said, I pay for ENTERTAINMENT.. WORK usually brings money IN.. |
| 09:42.57 | orionshock | well it depends on raid style and dynamic |
| 09:43.21 | orionshock | i was in a cassual guild where we played your style, where we came togeather and did what we could.. |
| 09:43.23 | buu | break19: "those groups"? We're talking about ALL groups. |
| 09:43.39 | orionshock | in the guild im in now, it's a military class, where if you can't follow directions, then your out |
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| 09:43.56 | QuantumDelta | which is more enjoyable |
| 09:43.56 | QuantumDelta | :P |
| 09:44.03 | buu | QuantumDelta: The latter, definitely. |
| 09:44.08 | ZealotOnAStick | break19: you're ruining my enjoyment and entertainment of this IRC. So, stop telling me how I should or shouldn't enjoy shit, and aid that by shutting the fuck up yourself. |
| 09:44.09 | orionshock | honestly the one im in now, |
| 09:44.25 | orionshock | in a casual guild, ya there was cordination, but we didn't get very far. |
| 09:44.27 | break19 | and, quite frankly, if I want to be assassination/subtlety spec, and I can play my char just as good as anyone else.. |
| 09:44.30 | orionshock | im an OLD School Raider |
| 09:44.34 | break19 | ZealotOnAStic: /ignore me then jackass. |
| 09:44.38 | QuantumDelta | I like my self-created middle ground for wow |
| 09:44.53 | QuantumDelta | for an actual hardcore game I'd probably prefer band camp* I mean the military one |
| 09:44.56 | orionshock | MC Days man, where it's a 40 man group you got to fuck with and you had to run military ranks or IT simply DIDN"T happen |
| 09:45.14 | buu | orionshock: I was pondering something similar about guild applications the other day. One one hand, the applications are occasionally long and involved and ask silly questions.. but would I really want to be in a guild with people too lazy to fill out a 10 question form? |
| 09:45.15 | Kerafyrm | ahhhh |
| 09:45.17 | Kerafyrm | i MISS MC! |
| 09:45.18 | break19 | this is why I quit the game. and now its why im quittin THIS channel. |
| 09:45.19 | Kerafyrm | and BWL |
| 09:45.24 | Sole | ZealotOnAStick: seems like I stumbled into a rogue debate. Care to bring me up to speed? |
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| 09:45.30 | buu | break19: Bye bye! |
| 09:45.32 | Sole | break19: heartbroken |
| 09:45.51 | buu | Is it just me or was it incredibly stereotypical that he was a rogue? |
| 09:45.56 | Sole | its almost as big of a threat as threatening to quit a game on the forums |
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| 09:46.04 | Corgan | lol |
| 09:46.04 | buu | Maybe he was a nelf. |
| 09:46.09 | Kerafyrm | lol |
| 09:46.16 | buu | HE WAS ROLEPLAYING. |
| 09:46.20 | Sole | what was he saying? |
| 09:46.32 | buu | Sole: That his enjoyment of the game was more important than everyone in his raid. |
| 09:46.39 | Sole | buu: winner |
| 09:46.41 | buu | So therefor he's allowed to do anything he wants. |
| 09:46.48 | Sole | he raids as 41/0/20? |
| 09:46.53 | Sole | was that the problem? |
| 09:46.53 | buu | No idea. |
| 09:46.55 | orionshock | sole - re: Casual vs Hardcore Debate + shaking of "ThreatMeters is for noobs" |
| 09:47.05 | Sole | orionshock: el oh el |
| 09:47.09 | orionshock | that's what this is currently on |
| 09:47.21 | buu | orionshock: Hey, you were the one complaining about threatmeters. |
| 09:47.33 | orionshock | >.> |
| 09:47.36 | Sole | orionshock: threat meters are for smart people who like to save time |
| 09:47.40 | Kerafyrm | lol |
| 09:47.44 | Sole | what was break saying about rogues though? |
| 09:47.49 | orionshock | i was saying that if you suck w/o them then you should quit |
| 09:47.54 | Sole | I need specifics to vulture on |
| 09:47.55 | ZealotOnAStick | Sole: break19 was bitching a lot about how reality doesn't line up with his stupidity, and I didn't really want to read it anymore. |
| 09:48.02 | Sole | ZealotOnAStick: lol |
| 09:48.28 | buu | 02:44 < break19> and, quite frankly, if I want to be assassination/subtlety spec, and I can play my char just as good as anyone else.. |
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| 09:49.20 | Ozguli | white damage! I've probably failed a bit in my calculations... |
| 09:49.49 | Ozguli | offhand spec would probably do more dps than 5 points in opportunity |
| 09:50.09 | Sole | well for starts mutilate isnt that hot for raiding |
| 09:50.13 | buu | orionshock: I just don't see, given the current raid encounters, how you can reasonably expect to play without threatmeters. I mean, I suppose in theory if you always had the same raid group and you were willing to try an encounter 10x more times, you could do it, but given realities.. |
| 09:50.28 | Sole | if youre gonna raid and be mutilate at least go 41/20 |
| 09:50.40 | Sole | and even pvp rogues who play mutilate go 41/20 |
| 09:50.47 | Sole | 41/0/20 just isnt that good |
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| 09:51.06 | Sole | "omg my mutilate hits for 50 more dmg!!!" |
| 09:51.13 | Ozguli | yeah the /20 isn't any good, one gets cooldowns & crap but it doesn't give any improvement in anything |
| 09:51.14 | buu | Yay! |
| 09:51.15 | buu | 50 damage! |
| 09:51.16 | Sole | ...too bad my white damage rapes yours |
| 09:52.16 | Ozguli | currently 41/15/5 but I want swords :\ they own so badly |
| 09:52.31 | Sole | why? |
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| 09:52.35 | Sole | 41/20 is better |
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| 09:53.01 | buu | I just want rogues to die a little. |
| 09:53.06 | Wobin | combat maces is fun |
| 09:53.20 | Wobin | More effective for heroics and the like, but still fun |
| 09:53.30 | Ozguli | combat maces = win but the weapons are damn difficult to find |
| 09:53.37 | Wobin | Aye... |
| 09:53.45 | Wobin | I've got Drakefist and the pvp offhand |
| 09:53.57 | Wobin | I'd -like- to get the arena offhand, but I don't see that happening =P |
| 09:54.05 | Sole | why? |
| 09:54.11 | Wobin | and four more nethers and I'll get dragonmaw |
| 09:54.20 | Wobin | Getting an arena team together is hard =P |
| 09:54.22 | Sole | its 10 matches a week wobs |
| 09:54.35 | Sole | 300+ points for a 1500+ 2v2 team |
| 09:55.11 | buu | Sole: I try, but rogues keep being mean to me. |
| 09:55.23 | Ozguli | weaponsmithing as profession would be quite cool too but I'm busy farming mats to get my LW 0-350 |
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| 09:55.41 | Sole | buu: kek |
| 09:56.30 | Wobin | LW is so hard to get to 375 |
| 09:56.31 | buu | Sole: Yeah =[. But I've been learning. |
| 09:56.50 | Wobin | I found BS easier |
| 09:57.03 | Wobin | I just ground felsteel gloves =) |
| 09:57.31 | Ozguli | does one actually need lw 375; isn't 350 enough for most fancy stuff? |
| 09:58.14 | Wobin | You don't get any of the good stuff til 375 really |
| 09:58.15 | ZealotOnAStick | 375 is required for the special instance/raid drop patterns. |
| 09:58.36 | Ackis | is there anything like GetSpellName that scans certain sections of your spellbook? like if I only want to scan the "general" tab, is there something I can use? |
| 09:58.38 | Wobin | and I just lost all my LW goods recently =( |
| 09:58.50 | Wobin | due to stupidity with the mailing system |
| 09:59.24 | Sole | QueryAuctionItems([getAll]) < I wonder by how much this will speed up auction house scanning? |
| 09:59.32 | Wobin | oh god I can't wait |
| 09:59.38 | Wobin | I'm so looking forward to that =) |
| 10:00.10 | *** join/#wowace Lysithea (i=o@c-fc4ee455.017-172-73746f34.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) |
| 10:00.15 | Diao | usable once per 15 min |
| 10:00.21 | Diao | or something |
| 10:00.31 | Sole | yeah and? |
| 10:00.43 | Sole | I dont plan to full scan the AH every minute |
| 10:01.27 | Wobin | It'd only need to be used once a day |
| 10:01.34 | Fisker- | sorry |
| 10:01.37 | Fisker- | btw orionshock |
| 10:01.48 | Fisker- | ~whalenuke Corgan |
| 10:01.49 | purl | ACTION dons his radiation cloak and tinted glasses while a highly intelligent whale named Ray precipitates critical mass for uncontrolled nuclear fission around Corgan with his mind powers |
| 10:01.53 | Wobin | Corgan: Do you take amex? |
| 10:02.06 | Corgan | yes |
| 10:02.13 | Corgan | in the butt |
| 10:02.25 | Fisker- | i take something else in the butt lol |
| 10:02.30 | Corgan | what what in da butt |
| 10:02.47 | Fisker- | no u in the butt |
| 10:02.59 | Corgan | goodnight sweet prince |
| 10:03.00 | Wobin | Fisker wants you, Corgan... bad |
| 10:03.10 | Corgan | I can tell |
| 10:03.24 | Fisker- | yay |
| 10:03.27 | Fisker- | i has installed WoW |
| 10:03.28 | Corgan | Maybe we should find somewhere a bit more...private *brows* |
| 10:05.34 | Chompers | but then we can't watch |
| 10:05.53 | *** join/#wowace Meiun|| (i=xface@h24n2fls31o883.telia.com) |
| 10:07.55 | Fisker- | oh nos |
| 10:07.57 | Fisker- | you crashing my game |
| 10:09.42 | Chompers | i know a shadowpriest that can't play because shadowform crashes his pc |
| 10:09.47 | CIA-12 | 03anxarces * r51242 10ProfessionsBook/ (6 files): (log message trimmed) |
| 10:09.47 | CIA-12 | ProfessionsBook: |
| 10:09.47 | CIA-12 | -Updated toc to 2.2.0 |
| 10:09.47 | CIA-12 | -Complete new code of ProfessionsBook and new data structure to store recipes. |
| 10:09.47 | CIA-12 | If you are upgrading from a version previous to 2.0.0 or 2.0.0 Beta you need to |
| 10:09.48 | CIA-12 | delete the folder "ProfessionsBook" in "WoW/Interface/AddOns" and |
| 10:09.49 | Corgan | lawl |
| 10:09.50 | CIA-12 | "Professions.lua" in your "WTF/Account/<AccountName>/SavedVariables/"-folder. |
| 10:09.51 | Chompers | which is pretty crazy |
| 10:10.31 | Corgan | that must be fun |
| 10:10.43 | Corgan | friend of mine can't go into zangar |
| 10:10.47 | Corgan | because it crashes his pc |
| 10:13.07 | kandarz | yay fixed my table sorting problems :) |
| 10:14.08 | Fisker- | wah |
| 10:14.13 | Fisker- | common.mpq file is in 153 fragments |
| 10:14.36 | ZealotOnAStick | DiskKeeper Pro FTW |
| 10:15.14 | Kerafyrm | I use Diskeeper as well |
| 10:15.18 | Kerafyrm | works wonders, imo |
| 10:16.14 | *** join/#wowace charon_ (n=charon@77-56-223-244.dclient.hispeed.ch) |
| 10:16.40 | charon | morning |
| 10:17.16 | naenee | morning. |
| 10:18.08 | Fisker- | if i'm unable to install the sata controller drivers prior to Windows installation and i then install them after windows have been installed can i then switch back to sata-mode again without screwing stuff up? |
| 10:20.02 | Zhinjio | don't make your boot drives sata. |
| 10:20.03 | *** join/#wowace Elkano (n=elkano@p54A52AF8.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 10:20.30 | Zhinjio | make sure you install all driver software to boot drive. |
| 10:20.37 | Zhinjio | shouldn't be a problem. |
| 10:20.46 | CIA-12 | 03anxarces * r51243 10ProfessionsBook/ (ProfessionsBook.lua ProfessionsBook.xml): (log message trimmed) |
| 10:20.46 | CIA-12 | ProfessionsBook: |
| 10:20.46 | CIA-12 | -Updated toc to 2.2.0 |
| 10:20.46 | CIA-12 | -Complete new code of ProfessionsBook and new data structure to store recipes. |
| 10:20.46 | CIA-12 | If you are upgrading from a version previous to 2.0.0 or 2.0.0 Beta you need to |
| 10:20.48 | CIA-12 | delete the folder "ProfessionsBook" in "WoW/Interface/AddOns" and |
| 10:20.52 | CIA-12 | "Professions.lua" in your "WTF/Account/<AccountName>/SavedVariables/"-folder. |
| 10:21.47 | *** join/#wowace [DiE]Celeb (n=zlkkiz@ti300720a080-7101.bb.online.no) |
| 10:28.23 | Kerafyrm | if it were me, i'd figure out why i couldn't load the sata drivers at windows isntall |
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| 10:32.28 | silentium | F6 -> enter floppy disk with drivers? |
| 10:32.45 | Zhinjio | yeah, true dat. There's always a way. |
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| 10:33.23 | CIA-12 | 03pettigrow * r51244 10AckisRecipeList/ARLLocals-frFR.lua: |
| 10:33.23 | CIA-12 | AckisRecipeList: |
| 10:33.23 | CIA-12 | - frFR Update |
| 10:33.27 | silentium | which requires you to have a 3 1/4" disk drive of cause |
| 10:33.55 | pakoz | yo, anyone know a good place to farm adamantite? |
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| 10:34.30 | CIA-12 | 03schelli 07Schelli * r51245 10IceHUD/ (modules/ textures/): IceHUD : folders removed |
| 10:34.41 | Kerafyrm | yeah... floppy drives are fading, but they are not done. |
| 10:35.13 | Cheads | 3 1/4" disk drive ??? |
| 10:35.36 | Cheads | 5 1/4 or 3œ" ... or 8"? =) |
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| 10:37.26 | CIA-12 | 03phanx * r51246 10Automaton/modules/ (7 files in 2 dirs): |
| 10:37.26 | CIA-12 | Automaton: |
| 10:37.26 | CIA-12 | - Dismount: removed flight master handling |
| 10:37.26 | CIA-12 | - Flight: new module to handle flight masters separately from error messages |
| 10:37.26 | CIA-12 | - Rez: cleanup |
| 10:37.27 | CIA-12 | - Summon: cleanup, add French translations |
| 10:37.29 | CIA-12 | - Unshapeshift: removed flight master handling |
| 10:38.10 | Kerafyrm | your dating yourself Cheads... careful :P |
| 10:40.26 | *** join/#wowace Pkekyo (n=bsm89mod@062016163025.customer.alfanett.no) |
| 10:40.39 | Pkekyo | finally installed my low-noise fans...it's a wet dream come true! |
| 10:41.12 | Pkekyo | HDD temp: 20 and 13 degrees |
| 10:41.13 | Pkekyo | CPU temp: 30 degrees |
| 10:41.13 | Pkekyo | RAM temp: 22 degrees |
| 10:41.13 | Pkekyo | and completely silent!<3 |
| 10:41.51 | Kerafyrm | wow nice |
| 10:42.08 | Pkekyo | for a year and a half now it've sounded like a fucking tornado |
| 10:42.25 | Pkekyo | spending 700,- on low-noise fans was certainly worth it :) |
| 10:42.33 | Kerafyrm | hehe |
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| 10:42.43 | Kerafyrm | i broke down and went to water cooling for the main system. |
| 10:43.00 | Pkekyo | can't be arsed to do water cooling...I'll just knock over the goddamn tank |
| 10:43.11 | Kerafyrm | hehe |
| 10:43.31 | Pkekyo | I'm pretty much knocking over everything else here soeh |
| 10:43.58 | Kerafyrm | just don't know yer soda onto your tower :) |
| 10:44.20 | Pkekyo | 3x 80mm and 1x 120mm chassis fans, and no noise.... |
| 10:44.20 | Pkekyo | well, there's the harddrive, but that sound is pleasant compared to how it've used to be |
| 10:44.22 | swayenvoy | ~seen agŽ |
| 10:44.25 | purl | i haven't seen 'agŽ', swayenvoy |
| 10:44.40 | *** join/#wowace do3mca_ (i=many@213.95.21.30) |
| 10:44.53 | Pkekyo | Kerafyrm: my brother managed to lose a goddamn bowl of popcorn into my tower |
| 10:45.00 | Kerafyrm | rofl! |
| 10:45.20 | Pkekyo | the only thing stopping me from killing him was the fear that the salt would cause shorts |
| 10:45.46 | Kerafyrm | heh |
| 10:46.18 | Pkekyo | had to pick the entire shite apart and go over it with a fucking brush |
| 10:46.19 | Pkekyo | (wet salt on circuitboards = fuckloads of shorts) |
| 10:46.32 | Kerafyrm | yup |
| 10:46.46 | Pkekyo | used his toothbrush, that he's still using to this day ^^ |
| 10:46.46 | Pkekyo | (never told him obviously) |
| 10:46.53 | *** join/#wowace Droolio (n=drool@87-194-188-170.bethere.co.uk) |
| 10:46.55 | Pkekyo | now that's nasty |
| 10:46.56 | Kerafyrm | lol |
| 10:47.15 | Pkekyo | my chassis' usually so filled with dust I have to pop the vacuum cleaner |
| 10:47.36 | charon | ~seen ag` |
| 10:47.37 | purl | ag` <n=ag`@0x535cbb03.bynxx18.adsl-dhcp.tele.dk> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 9h 32m 58s ago, saying: 'TI83+'. |
| 10:47.39 | charon | there swayenvoy |
| 10:47.54 | swayenvoy | thanks ;) |
| 10:48.11 | Ozguli | my friend's processor had about 3cm layer of dust on it, he was wondering why the machine booted itself quite often |
| 10:48.22 | Kerafyrm | lol |
| 10:48.28 | Pkekyo | assumed you were looking for ag, but wasn't sure what was up with the goddamn 'Z' |
| 10:48.30 | *** join/#wowace ag` (n=ag`@0x535cbb03.bynxx18.adsl-dhcp.tele.dk) |
| 10:48.41 | Kerafyrm | ask and you receive :P |
| 10:48.43 | *** join/#wowace Lothaer (i=Jamie@CPE-124-182-215-223.sa.bigpond.net.au) |
| 10:48.45 | Pkekyo | Ozguli: on the CPU itself? or the CPU cooling rib/cooling fan? |
| 10:48.50 | Lothaer | G'Day |
| 10:48.55 | Pkekyo | mornin |
| 10:48.56 | Ozguli | quite the same in that case :P |
| 10:48.57 | cncfanatics | g'day |
| 10:48.58 | CIA-12 | 03kandarz * r51247 10EveryQuest/ (7 files in 2 dirs): |
| 10:48.58 | CIA-12 | EveryQuest: - Fixed sorting, now sorts by Tag -> Level -> Name |
| 10:48.58 | CIA-12 | - Added Horde data, untested, should work like Alliance though |
| 10:48.58 | CIA-12 | - Updated Alliance data to match new sort method |
| 10:48.58 | CIA-12 | - Updated TOC, changed versioning |
| 10:49.12 | cncfanatics | w00t my state generation code works |
| 10:49.14 | Lothaer | Drool u here? |
| 10:49.15 | Ozguli | whole thing was like -covered- in thick dust |
| 10:49.16 | cncfanatics | this is going to make my job a LOT EASYER |
| 10:49.29 | Pkekyo | Ozguli: same thing happened to my first computer ^^ |
| 10:49.30 | Lothaer | wat job? |
| 10:49.49 | *** join/#wowace a-stray-cat (n=stray@c-71-197-86-231.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) |
| 10:49.50 | cncfanatics | Lothaer, states in flexbar |
| 10:49.55 | cncfanatics | its a mess to do states :s |
| 10:49.59 | Lothaer | ahhhh i used to use that |
| 10:50.17 | Lothaer | back before BC that is lol |
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| 10:50.57 | cncfanatics | been a while heh |
| 10:51.02 | cncfanatics | unfortunatly, it lost features since then :/ |
| 10:51.04 | cncfanatics | :'( |
| 10:51.19 | Lothaer | the only thing i didnt like about it was that you had to do everything via commands lol |
| 10:51.28 | cncfanatics | still that way :) |
| 10:51.31 | Lothaer | lol |
| 10:51.42 | Lothaer | wouldnt be flexbar if it wasnt done like that |
| 10:52.25 | Pkekyo | speaking of states... WTB affordable solid state drive! |
| 10:52.32 | Kerafyrm | hahah |
| 10:52.34 | Kerafyrm | affordable |
| 10:52.38 | cncfanatics | Pkekyo, what i'm writing is going to make that fucking easy |
| 10:52.41 | Kerafyrm | mebbe in 2-3 years |
| 10:52.41 | cncfanatics | Pkekyo, when it works that is |
| 10:52.47 | cncfanatics | it ain't really cheap though |
| 10:52.54 | cncfanatics | but it can generate a state driver on the fly |
| 10:53.08 | Pkekyo | cncfanatics: err...I'm talking about Solid State Harddrives :p |
| 10:53.24 | swayenvoy | cncfanatics: what can i do with remap target? |
| 10:53.36 | kandarz | cncfanatics is stuck in flexbar2 world |
| 10:53.39 | cncfanatics | swayenvoy, remap based on wether your target is hostile / friendly or u have no target |
| 10:53.44 | cncfanatics | kandarz, yep :p |
| 10:53.59 | Pkekyo | ^^ |
| 10:54.11 | Pkekyo | seriously though, geif affordable SS drives |
| 10:54.17 | Pkekyo | would make life sooo much easier |
| 10:54.19 | Lothaer | question |
| 10:54.22 | kandarz | so I finally got around to adding dirty horde data to my mod, god I'm so lazy |
| 10:54.49 | Pkekyo | Lothaer: ? |
| 10:54.49 | Lothaer | is there a mod that will allow me to asign personal Raid Targets even if im not leader |
| 10:54.57 | Lothaer | so targets only i can see |
| 10:55.00 | Lothaer | and not the hole raid |
| 10:55.07 | Pkekyo | you could do /focus? |
| 10:55.15 | Pkekyo | pitbull has amazing /focus support |
| 10:55.16 | Lothaer | there is that |
| 10:55.37 | Lothaer | but that dosnt show u exactly were a party member is when there out of range of my heals |
| 10:55.50 | Pkekyo | http://www.collegehumor.com/video:1771556 <--- full of win and awesome |
| 10:55.51 | *** join/#wowace _Ricoo (i=Rico@535290A8.cable.casema.nl) |
| 10:55.56 | Pkekyo | Lothaer: does raid targets do that? |
| 10:55.58 | _Ricoo | good afternoon |
| 10:56.02 | Lothaer | yeah htey do |
| 10:56.07 | swayenvoy | Pkekyo: You can only have one unit in focus |
| 10:56.07 | Pkekyo | mornin _Ricoo |
| 10:56.15 | Lothaer | u know, Diamond, Square, Triangle Skull etc |
| 10:56.22 | Pkekyo | swayenvoy: true, but it's better than none? :) |
| 10:56.29 | Lothaer | id like to be able to assign my own targets |
| 10:56.32 | _Ricoo | anyone know if there is a conflicting autobar update by any addon today? |
| 10:56.40 | Pkekyo | Lothaer: ah, so...a visual aid in other words? thought you were referring to direction, coords etc |
| 10:56.40 | Lothaer | so i can know were important key members of hte raid are |
| 10:56.46 | Lothaer | no no no lol |
| 10:56.47 | Lothaer | visual |
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| 10:57.14 | Pkekyo | methinks it'd be very hard to get that to work |
| 10:57.15 | Lothaer | would be sweet if sum1 made a mod that could do that |
| 10:57.49 | Pkekyo | indeed, but my guess is noone can be arsed to do such an extensive addon on a request :> |
| 10:57.59 | Lothaer | lol |
| 10:58.06 | Lothaer | just a thought |
| 10:58.24 | Diao | pretty sure you can't do that |
| 10:58.29 | Diao | unless you attach to nameplates |
| 10:58.39 | Pkekyo | yeah, and even nameplates have range limitations |
| 10:58.41 | Diao | but doing that requires them to be within 20 yds of you |
| 10:58.42 | Diao | or so |
| 10:59.02 | Pkekyo | lmao, "Jackass, The Game"?! |
| 10:59.11 | Lothaer | ROFLMAO |
| 10:59.14 | Lothaer | MMO???? |
| 10:59.23 | Pkekyo | honestly, I don't wanna know :p |
| 10:59.40 | Pkekyo | http://www.jackassthegame.com/age_check.html |
| 11:00.56 | Pkekyo | PS2, PSP and Nintendo DS |
| 11:00.58 | Pkekyo | lollilops |
| 11:02.27 | Pkekyo | jesus titty fucking christ...I thought I'd seen it all, but this... |
| 11:03.29 | Lothaer | Whats the difference between a Blonde and the Titanic? |
| 11:04.04 | *** join/#wowace do3mca (i=many@213.95.21.30) |
| 11:04.22 | Pkekyo | the blonde goes down faster? |
| 11:04.37 | Lothaer | we know how many went down on the Titanic |
| 11:04.43 | Pkekyo | ah |
| 11:04.49 | Pkekyo | well, I was close atleast |
| 11:04.56 | Lothaer | yeah good answer |
| 11:05.43 | Lothaer | a cat and a rooster were out fishing when all of a sudden the cat fell in the water, seeing this the rooster cracked up laughing.... whats the morale of this story? |
| 11:05.49 | Pkekyo | holy jumping fucking jesus, some mexican've got a 54cm dick O.o |
| 11:06.13 | a-stray-cat | does he faint when it gets hard? |
| 11:06.14 | do3mca | why do you care. you dont need to insert it |
| 11:07.00 | Pkekyo | seriously though, how does that work properly when you're up and about...ie in town shopping and stuff? |
| 11:09.08 | Pkekyo | http://static.nettby.no/users/k/l/i/klimt/files/emofish.jpg pewpew |
| 11:09.17 | Lothaer | where ever there is wet pussy ull find a happy cock |
| 11:09.40 | Pkekyo | or ocasionally another wet pussy |
| 11:09.49 | a-stray-cat | man thats an ugly fish |
| 11:09.56 | a-stray-cat | no wonder its so sad |
| 11:09.57 | Pkekyo | emofish :D |
| 11:10.02 | a-stray-cat | i'd cutmyself too if i looked like that |
| 11:10.28 | Pkekyo | ahah, indeed |
| 11:11.53 | Pkekyo | hmm...some guy shot a 15 year old kid with a shotgun for calling his kid names |
| 11:12.34 | a-stray-cat | no worse than that guy who shot a kid for walking on his lawn |
| 11:12.56 | a-stray-cat | im not pissing off any old men with access to weapons in the near future |
| 11:13.34 | Pkekyo | a-stray-cat: american? |
| 11:13.43 | a-stray-cat | indeed |
| 11:13.48 | Pkekyo | figures... |
| 11:14.11 | a-stray-cat | we love our guns, apparently. |
| 11:14.13 | Pkekyo | well this is out in the 'civillized world' (man, I'm going to piss alot of people off with that remark) |
| 11:14.30 | a-stray-cat | civilizations are built on killing eachother :P |
| 11:14.36 | a-stray-cat | our country was founded in a war! kek |
| 11:14.55 | a-stray-cat | i have to be patriotic, the fbi could be listening! |
| 11:15.18 | Pkekyo | as was ours, but we don't run 'round blowing eachothers brains out every five minutes anyways |
| 11:15.25 | a-stray-cat | feh. |
| 11:15.35 | a-stray-cat | where're you from? |
| 11:15.41 | Pkekyo | norway |
| 11:15.58 | a-stray-cat | yeah, being america i can hardly point to norway on a map :( |
| 11:16.04 | a-stray-cat | i know nothing of its history |
| 11:16.16 | Pkekyo | a-stray-cat: well, atleast you (hopefully) know it's not the capital city of sweden |
| 11:16.37 | Pkekyo | back to america's history...that the country was founded in a war does not constitute that it's continued existence should be a constant firefight... |
| 11:17.56 | a-stray-cat | meh, it's america. we love our guns too much :( |
| 11:18.08 | Pkekyo | as for norwegian history, we're basicly still vikings, running 'round with horned helmets and bashing eachother's faces in with axes |
| 11:18.10 | Pkekyo | a-stray-cat: indeed |
| 11:18.13 | Fisker- | cheer up emoduck |
| 11:18.55 | a-stray-cat | ooh vikings. |
| 11:19.17 | Fisker- | oh hi |
| 11:19.22 | Pkekyo | hi Fisker- |
| 11:19.22 | Fisker- | no u Pkekyo |
| 11:19.24 | Fisker- | WE ARE VIKINGS |
| 11:19.30 | Fisker- | You are just newbs :/ |
| 11:19.38 | Pkekyo | danes? trying to make me laugh? |
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| 11:19.54 | a-stray-cat | as america, i must /popcorn. |
| 11:19.57 | Fisker- | hey it wasn't us who freed sweden |
| 11:20.00 | Fisker- | only idiots would do that |
| 11:20.10 | Pkekyo | freed sweden? |
| 11:20.49 | Pkekyo | since when? from whom? |
| 11:21.00 | Fisker- | from us |
| 11:21.12 | Fisker- | he had most of sweden and some of norway at some point |
| 11:21.37 | Pkekyo | and so we kicked your asses out of norway/sweden and now you're bitching 'bout it? |
| 11:21.53 | Pkekyo | sweden is fucking awesome...cheap explosives, beer and tobacco! |
| 11:22.11 | Fisker- | we were swindled! |
| 11:22.39 | Pkekyo | you were dongjobs that didn't know what you were doing |
| 11:23.01 | Pkekyo | and still are...how you manage to keep greenland is a miracle to me :p |
| 11:23.10 | Codayus | Frankly, I think the entire regions been going down hill since 1632. |
| 11:23.18 | Fisker- | because we are 1337 |
| 11:23.27 | Pkekyo | dunno why the US haven't just taken over that shitty island yet |
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| 11:23.46 | CIA-12 | 03cwdg * r51248 10Babble-2.2/Babble-Mount-2.2/Babble-Mount-2.2.lua: |
| 11:23.46 | CIA-12 | Babble-2.2: |
| 11:23.46 | CIA-12 | -update zhCN local |
| 11:23.49 | Pkekyo | Codayus: good point...when those pricks came north with their pesky christianity we were basically set up to fail |
| 11:23.54 | Fisker- | because we're going to pwn them Pkekyo |
| 11:24.02 | Pkekyo | Fisker-: keep on dreaming |
| 11:24.04 | Fisker- | ever seen the film 300? |
| 11:24.06 | Fisker- | That's us |
| 11:24.18 | Fisker- | We have like 300 professional soldiers stationed in afghanistan! |
| 11:24.19 | Pkekyo | no it's not...that's spartans...you are drunken danes :p |
| 11:24.21 | Codayus | Pkekyo: Hmm, you grasp of history seems off by a few millenia. :-) |
| 11:24.24 | Fisker- | we'll just attack america! |
| 11:24.32 | Codayus | s/you/your, even |
| 11:24.33 | Fisker- | Pkekyo no but we got 300 :P |
| 11:24.39 | Pkekyo | Codayus: howso? |
| 11:24.55 | Pkekyo | half a millenia, maybe... not several |
| 11:25.12 | Codayus | Fair enough |
| 11:25.19 | Codayus | Less than that if your from out in the sticks. |
| 11:25.28 | Pkekyo | in the sticks? |
| 11:25.55 | *** join/#wowace Zarhan (i=[dz7kTdx@216-227-149.7003.adsl.tele2.no) |
| 11:26.04 | Pkekyo | I just had this stuff in history, but I suck with knowing what happened what year...I don't even remember what year me and my ex got together |
| 11:26.52 | a-stray-cat | the us doesn't want greenland because as far as we know, it's part of Canada. Anything north of us is Canada, and who wants Canada? |
| 11:26.54 | *** join/#wowace baer_ (n=baer@bodom.heim10.tu-clausthal.de) |
| 11:26.56 | baer_ | moin. |
| 11:26.57 | Pkekyo | Codayus: methinks they popped their christianity cooldown around the 1200s up here |
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| 11:27.02 | Pkekyo | mornin baer_ |
| 11:27.08 | Codayus | Pkekyo: Sounds fair enough. |
| 11:27.12 | Fisker- | zzz |
| 11:27.37 | Pkekyo | a-stray-cat: the US wants canada so they can remove all the pacifists from the face of the earth and keep on vaging their war for black oil |
| 11:28.08 | a-stray-cat | nono, we need Canada to make fun of! |
| 11:28.13 | cncfanatics | cryogen, u around ? |
| 11:28.21 | Pkekyo | a-stray-cat: not really, can use australia for that purpose |
| 11:28.32 | Pkekyo | ~seen cryogen |
| 11:28.33 | purl | cryogen is currently on #wowi-lounge (2d 3h 35m 47s) #wowace (2d 3h 35m 47s). Has said a total of 1312 messages. Is idling for 13h 16m 8s, last said: 'let me get alive again and kill supervisor whatshisface'. |
| 11:28.46 | Pkekyo | guess not |
| 11:29.00 | a-stray-cat | no one makes fun of australia in the USA, unless you're talking about the Crocodile Hunter |
| 11:29.03 | a-stray-cat | may he RIP |
| 11:29.13 | CIA-12 | 03warloxx * r51249 10GameLobby/ (Core.lua RoundBasedGame.lua templates.xml): |
| 11:29.13 | CIA-12 | GameLobby: |
| 11:29.13 | CIA-12 | - if no game-icon exists the lable will move a bit to the left |
| 11:29.13 | CIA-12 | - messages sended by game objects are now transfered correctly to their receiving functions |
| 11:29.15 | Fisker- | going to kill my computer |
| 11:29.15 | Pkekyo | rest in pieces? |
| 11:29.16 | Fisker- | bbl |
| 11:29.21 | Pkekyo | <PROTECTED> |
| 11:29.24 | a-stray-cat | maybe. |
| 11:29.28 | CIA-12 | 03ackis * r51250 10AckisRecipeList/ (ARLLocals-enUS.lua ARLLocals-frFR.lua AckisRecipeList.lua): |
| 11:29.28 | CIA-12 | AckisRecipeList: |
| 11:29.28 | CIA-12 | - Updated filtering logic (tested and verified that faction and class work, speciality is drycoded, if you are a leatherworker please test out speciality filtering) |
| 11:29.28 | CIA-12 | - Added dry-coded speciality filtering (I don't have a character with a speciality which I can test with) |
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| 11:31.29 | CIA-12 | 03ananhaid * r51251 10Violation_EffectiveHealing/Violation_EffectiveHealing.toc: |
| 11:31.29 | CIA-12 | Violation_EffectiveHealing: |
| 11:31.29 | CIA-12 | - 2.2 toc |
| 11:36.21 | CIA-12 | 03cwdg * r51252 10Babble-2.2/ (3 files in 3 dirs): |
| 11:36.21 | CIA-12 | Babble-2.2: |
| 11:36.21 | CIA-12 | -update some classes' zhCN local file |
| 11:40.36 | CIA-12 | 03ananhaid * r51253 10BossWhisperer/BossWhisperer.toc: |
| 11:40.36 | CIA-12 | BossWhisperer: |
| 11:40.36 | CIA-12 | - 2.2 toc |
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| 11:47.59 | charon | anyone around who does BT/MH? i'm trying to get to 365LW (375 actually but the rest is drums) cheaply and i'm wondering if the 3-piece AR set would be worth having later on |
| 11:48.19 | charon | i'm a feral, so probably not going to MT anything magic heavy |
| 11:48.32 | Pkekyo | I wouldn't count on it |
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| 11:48.57 | Pkekyo | I've found resistances rather useless in TBC tbh, though it helps on a -few- specifict randomass bosses |
| 11:49.06 | EKS | Is there any way to find out what part of a addon is using the most CPU time? ( cpu time pr line profiling) |
| 11:49.13 | EKS | or pr funtion at leats |
| 11:49.36 | charon | Pkekyo: well at hydross NR/FrR are quite important for me... |
| 11:49.48 | Eggi | BT/MH is only fire/shadow |
| 11:50.10 | Marli | I remember on some world first eye kill nihilum farmed FR gear for like 2 days |
| 11:50.12 | Marli | :s |
| 11:50.13 | Eggi | and fire only if you tank the elementals in the illidan encounter |
| 11:50.31 | Eggi | that was shadow |
| 11:50.34 | Eggi | not fire marli |
| 11:50.39 | Marli | wut |
| 11:50.42 | Marli | i swear it was fire |
| 11:51.02 | charon | eye? probably al'ar ... he's a phoenix after all |
| 11:51.09 | Marli | . |
| 11:51.13 | charon | but let me put it this way... |
| 11:51.20 | charon | did you know badge of justice stacks up to 200? |
| 11:51.24 | charon | FR gear is dirt cheap |
| 11:51.41 | Trell_ | at the cost of gimping stats |
| 11:51.43 | Eggi | only mother does enough dmg with an element so that resistance gear is needed... everywhere else only a few people need resistance gear |
| 11:51.45 | Marli | ok lemme just do every heroic |
| 11:51.54 | charon | true but all resist gear gimps your other stats |
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| 11:52.33 | Trell_ | and im waiting till 2.3 for ZA and Kara badges - we still have kara clears each week to gear alts/socials (ewww) so I'll pick up badges then I guess |
| 11:53.18 | Trell_ | the only thing I could grab is the resist gear now, until they bring some new stuff out, are they adding more BoJ rewards in 2.3? |
| 11:53.29 | charon | they promised i think |
| 11:53.29 | CIA-12 | tekkub-wow: 03tekkub * r598 10/trunk/TourGuide/ (7 files in 3 dirs): |
| 11:53.29 | CIA-12 | tekkub-wow: TourGuide |
| 11:53.29 | CIA-12 | tekkub-wow: - Status frame revamp, whee! |
| 11:53.29 | CIA-12 | tekkub-wow: - Guide tweaks |
| 11:53.29 | CIA-12 | tekkub-wow: - Fixed loot tag not working |
| 11:53.42 | Marli | there -are- new boj rewards in 2.3 |
| 11:54.34 | charon | are there any screens or the like? |
| 11:54.47 | charon | might help me plan the next few upgrades since ferals aren't exactly swimming in itemization |
| 11:55.33 | Trell_ | feral set is coming in 2.3 too |
| 11:55.46 | Trell_ | A feral-focused set will be available in season 3. It won't have +healing on it and will be focused on feral statistics. |
| 11:56.01 | charon | i think that concerns arena and besides i'm covered set wise |
| 11:56.08 | charon | it's the off-set items that are so horrible |
| 11:56.37 | charon | worst example: _zero_ bracers past heroics in PvE |
| 11:58.04 | Eggi | really? http://www.wowhead.com/?item=30863 http://www.wowhead.com/?item=32324 |
| 11:58.35 | charon | rogue gear |
| 11:58.56 | charon | i'm not saying it's crap but it's always worse than what we could gain if they put in an item of equal level with feral stats |
| 11:59.02 | charon | and anything with +AP on it does not have feral stats. |
| 11:59.29 | Kazie | Anyone else than me who have a problem with atlas loot not showing up on Fubar anymore? |
| 12:00.08 | EKS | Is there any way to find out what part of a addon is using the most CPU time? ( cpu time pr line profiling) |
| 12:00.20 | Codayus | Lots of offspecs have gear holes. |
| 12:00.33 | Codayus | 2.3 will help some... |
| 12:00.34 | Eggi | not everything can be perfect... you get a good feral t6 a great staff in hyjal and also good boots in BT |
| 12:00.53 | charon | guys check _any_ thread on the druid forums |
| 12:01.58 | charon | the T6 staff simply sucks, it's a sidegrade at best to the T5 one (wildfury) for tanking and worse than the $%#@!ing tentacle staff from _karazhan_ for dps simply because the stats on it are horrible |
| 12:01.59 | Eggi | i don't read the offical forums because more then 90% is spam there |
| 12:02.29 | charon | and i hardly call something an offspec that, last statistic i read, comprised about 50% of all raiding druids |
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| 12:03.04 | Codayus | Charon is right, the T6 staff is um...not good. However, I'd still call it an offspec because Bliz seems to think it is. :-/ |
| 12:03.24 | Codayus | ...then again, some of the healing leather itemization is lacking too... |
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| 12:04.04 | Eggi | where do you miss something healing wise? |
| 12:04.21 | Kazie | Anyone else than me who have a problem with atlas loot not showing up on Fubar anymore? |
| 12:07.18 | Codayus | Eggi: A few, especially at T4 level. |
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| 12:07.47 | CIA-12 | 03ananhaid * r51254 10XLootMaster/ (XLootMaster.toc localization.zhCN.lua localization.zhTW.lua): |
| 12:07.47 | CIA-12 | XLootMaster: |
| 12:07.47 | CIA-12 | - 2.2 toc and zhCN/zhTW add Translate |
| 12:07.51 | Codayus | For example, epic healing bracers appear to jump from Naxx to SSC, without a stop in between... |
| 12:08.26 | Eggi | use cloth... armor doesn't matter in pve |
| 12:09.56 | CIA-12 | 03ananhaid * r51255 10XLootMaster/localization.zhTW.lua: |
| 12:09.56 | CIA-12 | XLootMaster: |
| 12:09.56 | CIA-12 | - fix my stupid error...-_- |
| 12:10.00 | Codayus | And ferals can use rogue loot. :-) |
| 12:10.26 | a-stray-cat | anyone have any guesses on when 2.3's going to hit the PTR? |
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| 12:11.23 | Polarina | a-stray-cat: Never! I'm going to kidnap Slouken. |
| 12:11.36 | a-stray-cat | noooo! i need my hunter buffs! |
| 12:11.50 | Codayus | I don't think anyone knows. Sometime next week is vaguely plausible. |
| 12:12.21 | Codayus | Since they need to get it out the door fast |
| 12:12.45 | a-stray-cat | they really do :/ these tiny patches are ticking people off ;P |
| 12:13.11 | a-stray-cat | also, do you guys think they're going to re-enable hardware sound eventually? |
| 12:13.23 | Polarina | NO! |
| 12:13.28 | Polarina | I want software sounds! |
| 12:13.35 | a-stray-cat | why, you can have both! |
| 12:13.42 | kebinusan | software sound is the devil |
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| 12:13.54 | Polarina | Hardware sounds are of worse quality for me than their software sound! |
| 12:13.57 | a-stray-cat | software for the software people, hardware for the people like me who forked over good money for their sound cards. |
| 12:15.18 | Polarina | a-stray-cat: There exists video RAM, and now you are telling me there exists audio RAM too? |
| 12:15.30 | a-stray-cat | my soundcard has RAM damnit |
| 12:15.33 | kebinusan | Id rather not waste processor cycles on software sound |
| 12:16.35 | a-stray-cat | lawl Creative calls it "X-RAM" |
| 12:17.23 | a-stray-cat | my soundcard has a hefty 64 megs of this special "X-RAM"! too bad my soundcard right now is doing absolutely nothing |
| 12:17.35 | a-stray-cat | stupid creative and their terrible linux drivers ;( |
| 12:17.52 | Polarina | Sorry! |
| 12:17.54 | Polarina | Just had to. |
| 12:18.04 | a-stray-cat | but...why?! |
| 12:18.08 | haste | move your /usr/lib onto it for awesome performance a-stray-cat ! |
| 12:18.18 | a-stray-cat | lol |
| 12:18.21 | Polarina | Never say that someting sucks in GNU/Linux. |
| 12:18.37 | haste | possibly faster application startup at least :3 |
| 12:19.15 | a-stray-cat | creative's drivers for linux are terrible |
| 12:19.18 | a-stray-cat | and they're not open source |
| 12:19.38 | a-stray-cat | for their x-fi line, at least |
| 12:19.51 | haste | I have some old audigy card, works as it should |
| 12:20.13 | a-stray-cat | i have a fancy smancy x-fi card, its a paper weight in linux :P |
| 12:20.35 | a-stray-cat | do you use compiz fusion haste? |
| 12:20.44 | a-stray-cat | i cant get some keybindings in the settings manager to stick |
| 12:20.45 | haste | no, I like it simple |
| 12:20.48 | a-stray-cat | ah :( |
| 12:20.55 | haste | just bind it manually with gconf |
| 12:21.02 | haste | that's what I did when I tested it |
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| 12:24.55 | TiGGaH | hiya, any BulkMail2 users online? BulkMail worked ok for me, but now after switching to ver 2 i don't even get the mass sender box anymore. BulkMail2Inbox works ok. |
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| 12:36.33 | CIA-12 | 03cwdg * r51256 10BigWigs_VashjFFA/BigWigs_VashjFFA.lua: BigWigs_VashjFFA: add zhCN local |
| 12:37.05 | Marli | god vashj??? we have lifs omg!!1! |
| 12:37.29 | CIA-12 | 03cwdg * r51257 10BigWigs/ (7 files in 5 dirs): |
| 12:37.29 | CIA-12 | BigWigs: |
| 12:37.29 | CIA-12 | - update zhCN local. fix some translations' bug |
| 12:37.30 | Marli | why do instant reset ea week ffs we dont have time to raid like 5 time/week ffs!!! |
| 12:38.00 | CIA-12 | 03cwdg * r51258 10LittleWigs/ (README.txt TempestKeep/Dalliah.lua): |
| 12:38.00 | CIA-12 | LittleWigs: |
| 12:38.00 | CIA-12 | add zhCN translation and update zhCN local for Dalliah |
| 12:40.32 | CIA-12 | 03adirelle * r51259 10CastYeller/ (CastYeller.toc announces/warlock.lua): |
| 12:40.32 | CIA-12 | CastYeller: |
| 12:40.32 | CIA-12 | - added deDE warlock announces, by EnSabahNur. |
| 12:43.30 | cncfanatics | Toadkiller, u around ? |
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| 12:47.02 | Centurio_42357 | http://www.pennergame.de/ref.php?refid=7963124 |
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| 12:52.04 | *** mode/#wowace [+b *!*@p5B2388EF.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] by vhaarr |
| 12:52.23 | Ellipsis | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V2_ueohYRhU |
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| 13:01.40 | Fisker- | you know what sucks? |
| 13:02.05 | Fisker- | When you go into PC Health, look over the temperatures and says "Heeeey that's not Fahrenheit..." |
| 13:02.25 | Fisker- | My cpu was running @ 93 Celsius :/ |
| 13:03.53 | Necrathex | l2metric :p |
| 13:04.18 | cncfanatics | l2metric indeed |
| 13:04.22 | Grum | l2coolpc |
| 13:04.31 | CIA-12 | 03dorje * r51260 10DorjeHealingBars/ (DorjeHealingBars.lua DorjeHealingBars.toc readme.txt): |
| 13:04.31 | CIA-12 | DorjeHealingBars: |
| 13:04.31 | CIA-12 | - 2.2 bug fixes |
| 13:05.12 | CIA-12 | 03orionshock * r51261 10ORLIC/ (15 files in 15 dirs): |
| 13:05.12 | CIA-12 | ORLIC: |
| 13:05.12 | CIA-12 | -Remove Local Libs in prep for Externals |
| 13:05.12 | CIA-12 | -Add logTemplate |
| 13:05.20 | Fisker- | Grum my cooler didn't click into place in the last of those click thingies on the Core2 heatsinks |
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| 13:05.32 | *** mode/#wowace [+v Tekkub] by ChanServ |
| 13:05.38 | cryogen | cncfanatics: am now |
| 13:06.15 | cncfanatics | cryogen, nvm, don't need ya anymore ^^ |
| 13:06.42 | Grum | Fisker-: lol |
| 13:06.46 | Grum | you normally check that .. ^^ |
| 13:06.51 | cryogen | heh k |
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| 13:08.42 | Dustwhisper | not too bad Fisker- |
| 13:08.46 | Dustwhisper | 93 isnt dangerous |
| 13:08.53 | Dustwhisper | my 8800 GTX GPU runs at 82 degrees <_< |
| 13:09.01 | Klazar | Outfitter or ClosetGnome 2 manage gear changing? |
| 13:09.23 | vhaarr | try them both? |
| 13:10.07 | vhaarr | Klazar: If you need lots of features and stuff, use Outfitter, I made ClosetGnome to be small, not feature-rich. |
| 13:10.16 | Fisker- | Grum well had a raid :P |
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| 13:10.39 | Kerafyrm | Does ClosetGnome at least support automating mount switching for the riding crop? |
| 13:10.51 | Klazar | ahhh i just want to switch gear for a shadow priest from dmg to heal |
| 13:10.51 | vhaarr | Kerafyrm: With ClosetGnome_Mount, it does. |
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| 13:11.05 | vhaarr | Klazar: then closetgnome is what you want |
| 13:11.27 | Kerafyrm | yay... get to move another mod over to a nice acemod :) |
| 13:11.34 | Kerafyrm | lurking ftw |
| 13:12.02 | Klazar | kk i used to use ClosetGnome but uninstalled it when I was getting problems entering an Instance, it would drop all my gear |
| 13:12.25 | Klazar | that was along time ago |
| 13:12.40 | vhaarr | you must have used ClosetGnome_Zone to do that |
| 13:12.52 | vhaarr | I've never had anyone report that bug to me that I can remember |
| 13:13.15 | Klazar | guilty as charged, never reported it |
| 13:13.58 | Klazar | yea id prefer something that can be updated via the updater. |
| 13:14.36 | vhaarr | the base closetgnome addon does set management and keybindings |
| 13:14.49 | CIA-12 | 03grum 07WIP * r51262 10Cartographer_Routes/Cartographer_Routes/: Cartographer_Routes: updated svn:externals |
| 13:15.18 | vhaarr | Grum: Routes? |
| 13:15.32 | Fisker- | oh noes vhaarr |
| 13:15.35 | Fisker- | where has you been |
| 13:15.39 | vhaarr | Grum: Is it usable, can I install it? |
| 13:15.46 | Fisker- | an addon that shows the shortest route between nodes |
| 13:15.53 | vhaarr | I figured as much from the name |
| 13:16.00 | Fisker- | :< |
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| 13:18.19 | Klazar | vhaar, how doed the fishing addon work, i fish and have FishingAce instaled. Do I need to add CG_fishing |
| 13:18.42 | vhaarr | Klazar: I have no idea, I didn't make that addon |
| 13:18.52 | Grum | vhaarr: yeah its usable |
| 13:19.02 | vhaarr | sweet |
| 13:19.05 | Grum | but its in a branch still |
| 13:19.10 | vhaarr | I know |
| 13:19.35 | Klazar | well i try it out, gonna do the fishing tourney today |
| 13:19.38 | Klazar | bbl |
| 13:20.00 | Grum | Klazar: i hope you are not on EU realms then ^^ |
| 13:20.26 | Klazar | lol no EST server US |
| 13:21.01 | CIA-12 | 03orionshock * r51263 10ORLIC/ (Libs/ ORLIC.toc embeds.xml): |
| 13:21.01 | CIA-12 | ORLIC: |
| 13:21.01 | CIA-12 | -Set Externals |
| 13:21.01 | CIA-12 | -Add embeds.xml and add ref to .toc |
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| 13:42.39 | orionshock | wow encoding is UTF8 right? |
| 13:42.39 | CIA-12 | 03fenlis * r51264 10CastYeller/ (7 files in 2 dirs): |
| 13:42.39 | CIA-12 | CastYeller: |
| 13:42.39 | CIA-12 | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:47.39 | CIA-12 | 03cncfanatics * r51265 10FlexBar2/ (3 files in 2 dirs): FlexBar2: State driver is no longer hardcoded, this allows to add states very easely |
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| 13:49.40 | Corey | heya cncfanatics |
| 13:50.47 | cncfanatics | Corey, hello |
| 13:52.55 | CIA-12 | 03orionshock * r51266 10FuBar_ReportAFK/ (5 files): |
| 13:52.55 | CIA-12 | FuBar_ReportAFK: |
| 13:52.55 | CIA-12 | -changed tablet arround, added left click to report all. |
| 13:52.55 | CIA-12 | ~lart WoWAceSVN |
| 13:52.55 | purl | beats WoWAceSVN into protomatter with the andromeda galaxy |
| 13:53.48 | |Stan| | lol |
| 13:53.51 | orionshock | stupid svn... my commit note follows the fking rules.. Lrn2Read noob |
| 13:54.33 | CIA-12 | 03ananhaid * r51267 10Parrot/ (Code/Parrot.lua Parrot.toc): |
| 13:54.33 | CIA-12 | Parrot: |
| 13:54.33 | CIA-12 | - Translate zhCN add. (Thanks CWDG & Mop) |
| 13:54.49 | naenee | Hm. Has anyone here had problem of, when they try to resize a chat window, it doesn't resize, but shift up? |
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| 13:58.25 | Boomshack^Owned | is there any way to configure Aloft to Add the target the mob have ? |
| 13:59.30 | naenee | Fixed it |
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| 14:11.46 | Paradox | hey guys |
| 14:11.54 | Paradox | how do I get party frames to show in a raid with pitbull? |
| 14:11.55 | Fisker- | gee wiz |
| 14:11.58 | Paradox | urgen ;3 |
| 14:12.01 | Paradox | +t |
| 14:12.22 | Fisker- | try interface options and show party frames in raid |
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| 14:13.05 | Paradox | it's fine in interface options |
| 14:13.38 | Paradox | anyone? urgent ;-; |
| 14:16.04 | CIA-12 | 03cncfanatics * r51268 10FlexBar2/Attributes/Attributes.lua: FlexBar2: Remove debugging code |
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| 14:16.30 | Gnarfoz | Paradox: how about in the settings for the party unit? |
| 14:16.33 | Gnarfoz | "show in raid" |
| 14:16.53 | Paradox | thankyou thankyou D: |
| 14:17.24 | Pkekyo | what's the release day for HL2: Orange Box? |
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| 14:19.32 | MoonWitch | man, this chatzilla bumps up my firefox memory usage by 100MB :( |
| 14:20.09 | Pkekyo | MoonWitch: dump it and reroll Opera ;> |
| 14:20.35 | MoonWitch | Actually I had Opera, it was good but I prefer Firefox |
| 14:20.47 | MoonWitch | I've been used to it for so long.. just with chatzilla it's evil lol |
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| 14:21.48 | *** mode/#wowace [+o Cairenn] by ChanServ |
| 14:22.09 | MoonWitch | I normally use Xchat :) Just wanted to give this a try, too resource demanding ... -> going back to xchat |
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| 14:22.32 | MoonWitch | voila |
| 14:22.57 | MoonWitch | people who dont wanna read? |
| 14:23.01 | harldephin | yea |
| 14:23.08 | harldephin | maybe that's just it |
| 14:23.12 | MoonWitch | Porkys is hard to read to |
| 14:23.14 | MoonWitch | too* |
| 14:23.17 | harldephin | yea |
| 14:23.27 | MoonWitch | I want my info on a gloss over ... those fonts make that impossible |
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| 14:27.53 | Jops | :o |
| 14:28.02 | Jops | This chan was a bit bigger then I expected |
| 14:28.08 | Trell_ | lmfao |
| 14:28.17 | Trell_ | i guess everyones seen the wow toyota commercial? |
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| 14:28.28 | Trell_ | only just seen it myself, it was a funny moment :P |
| 14:28.55 | Trell_ | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V2_ueohYRhU if you havent seen it yet |
| 14:29.37 | harldephin | i prefer either of these: Baar Sophia, Calibri v0.9 or ABF |
| 14:29.44 | harldephin | in that stated order |
| 14:30.10 | harldephin | next would be Calibri v1 |
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| 14:34.21 | CIA-12 | 03cncfanatics * r51269 10FlexBar2/Attributes/Attributes.lua: FlexBar2: Fixed a bug where states wouldn't get updated when you learn new ones |
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| 14:35.24 | backbone | cncfanatics: ping |
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| 14:39.43 | cncfanatics | backbone, pong |
| 14:40.43 | backbone | cncfanatics: i have found a very nice way to check, whether a table is empty or not... in AceEvent the following code is used: if not next(table) ... end |
| 14:40.48 | backbone | *then |
| 14:41.17 | cncfanatics | hmmm, does next() work for non numerical tables ? I have no idea |
| 14:41.27 | backbone | yeah it does |
| 14:41.31 | cncfanatics | thats a nice way then |
| 14:41.33 | Ackis | yes it does, I use next loops in mod |
| 14:41.42 | Fisker- | so |
| 14:41.47 | Fisker- | i'm gonna equip myself with |
| 14:41.50 | Fisker- | FOUR WHEEL OF FURYYYYYYYYYYY |
| 14:42.01 | Fisker- | YYYYY |
| 14:42.03 | Fisker- | yyyyyyyyyyyyyy |
| 14:42.50 | Hjalte | Fisker-: You forgot a "Y". |
| 14:43.06 | Fisker- | Y |
| 14:43.07 | Fisker- | there |
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| 14:43.26 | backbone | i have a standard problem: the name of my party members are shown as "Unknown", if i join a group... i know it's a common error, can someone redirect me to a discription, how to solve it? |
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| 14:44.14 | Pkekyo | any DeviantART users here? |
| 14:45.33 | MoonWitch | yeah me, though I've not uploaded to it in forever |
| 14:48.35 | Pkekyo | MoonWitch: know how I can post images in my journal? |
| 14:48.51 | MoonWitch | I think with plain html or bbcode.. |
| 14:49.05 | MoonWitch | [img]url to image[/img] |
| 14:49.07 | MoonWitch | i think |
| 14:49.12 | Pkekyo | hmm |
| 14:49.36 | Pkekyo | mind refreshing my html knowledge? |
| 14:49.42 | Pkekyo | I've forgotten the usage of img src |
| 14:50.46 | Grum | lol |
| 14:50.55 | Grum | <img src=imgurl..> |
| 14:51.03 | do3mca | humm. how do i get rid of the examble buff in ebb |
| 14:51.14 | Grum | click it ? |
| 14:51.22 | do3mca | nop |
| 14:51.39 | Pkekyo | I alway stry to close that goddamn img src tag |
| 14:51.39 | do3mca | oh. its only there when no other buff is there |
| 14:51.45 | do3mca | mildly irritating |
| 14:51.46 | Pkekyo | - with a second tag |
| 14:52.06 | do3mca | <img src='file.jpg'/> |
| 14:53.15 | CIA-12 | 03hegarol * r51270 10AtlasLoot_OldInstances/original.en.lua: |
| 14:53.15 | CIA-12 | AtlasLoot_OldInstances: |
| 14:53.15 | CIA-12 | - typo |
| 14:53.59 | MoonWitch | <img src="url" alt="alt text" border="0" /> don't forget that slash thing, it's required for nice validation :) |
| 14:55.00 | Grum | html is a serious stupid markup language |
| 14:55.05 | Pkekyo | for some reason, <img src=http://forums.gamernode.com/image.php?u=6290&type=sigpic&dateline=1180799816> won't work in the dART joirnal |
| 14:55.20 | Grum | people actually doing <br /> .. sigh |
| 14:55.35 | Grum | like doing <br>....</br> is actually doing anything sensible |
| 14:55.56 | MoonWitch | lol Pkekyo use the " " around the url |
| 14:56.11 | Fisker- | omg html nub |
| 14:56.20 | MoonWitch | <img src="http://forums.gamernode.com/image.php?u=6290&type=sigpic&dateline=1180799816" /> |
| 14:56.33 | durcyn | self closing tags only work in xhtml, drop the /> from the img tag, for starters |
| 14:56.42 | do3mca | grum: <br/> isnt stupid because <br></br> is not sensible. |
| 14:56.42 | orionshock | Pkekyo: that's whats called a dynamic img, and it may not be allowed by the forum system in use |
| 14:56.46 | durcyn | just <img src=foo> |
| 14:56.54 | Pkekyo | MoonWitch: still not working |
| 14:57.00 | MoonWitch | and that's a dynamic one, honestly, save it to your hard drive, upload it to imageshack |
| 14:57.21 | orionshock | not all forum systems allow dynamic pics |
| 14:57.38 | MoonWitch | <img src="http://forums.gamernode.com/image.php?u=6290&type=sigpic&dateline=1180799816"> try that, if that doesn't work, then it's the dynamic link of the image that's the issue |
| 14:57.49 | Pkekyo | MoonWitch: dynamic link then |
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| 14:58.48 | MoonWitch | ok, right click the image, save to your hard drive, upload it to imageshack, then use that URL for dA journal |
| 14:58.59 | MoonWitch | that's easier - and should work like a charm |
| 14:59.11 | Pkekyo | <img src="http://img207.imageshack.us/img207/5447/bmsigto2.jpg"> won't work either |
| 14:59.42 | Pkekyo | any ideas? |
| 15:00.02 | MoonWitch | when you make text bold in dA journal |
| 15:00.06 | MoonWitch | what does the code do |
| 15:00.13 | MoonWitch | I think it's bbcode |
| 15:00.21 | MoonWitch | ya know what hold on let me just check it myself |
| 15:00.30 | Pkekyo | I use <b>text</b> and it works fine |
| 15:00.54 | durcyn | still possible they could be sanitizing html. they'd be kinda dumb not to. |
| 15:01.50 | MoonWitch | yep that's what I am trying now |
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| 15:02.57 | Pkekyo | sanitizing html? |
| 15:03.26 | durcyn | only allowing certain tags |
| 15:03.34 | MoonWitch | I think that's what they do |
| 15:03.40 | Pkekyo | well that suck frozen donkeyballs |
| 15:03.44 | MoonWitch | I know they have a special way of including images |
| 15:03.56 | Pkekyo | also: howcome other peeps can use pics in their journals? >.< |
| 15:04.19 | Pkekyo | http://rimfrost.deviantart.com/ <--- journal on the right-hand side |
| 15:04.23 | MoonWitch | <MoonWitch> I know they have a special way of including images |
| 15:04.44 | MoonWitch | http://help.deviantart.com/88/ here you go .. under HELP and FAQ |
| 15:05.25 | MoonWitch | How do I add images to my Journal? |
| 15:05.25 | MoonWitch | You use the image tag as you would with any other webpage. The only stipulation is that you must include the "alt" parameter. |
| 15:05.25 | MoonWitch | For example: <img src="source URL" alt="Image Description" /> |
| 15:05.25 | MoonWitch | The source URL is the URL of the picture you want to include, and the image description will be shown if the image, for some reason, cannot be loaded. Please also don't forget the trailing />. If you forget it, problems like your text not being properly aligned might occur. |
| 15:05.27 | MoonWitch | Images you wish to place in your journal must be hosted offsite, either on your own webspace, or utilizing one of the image hosting services like Photobucket.com. |
| 15:05.28 | Pkekyo | subscriber only feature...DONKEYBALLS |
| 15:05.30 | MoonWitch | This is a subscriber only feature. |
| 15:05.42 | MoonWitch | so I was right - about the /> :) |
| 15:06.35 | MoonWitch | http://kay-moonwitch.deviantart.com/ mine btw .. nothing but very old crap on it |
| 15:06.40 | Pkekyo | someone buy me a subscription plx? :p |
| 15:06.52 | durcyn | MoonWitch: you need a closing tag, whether it's XHTML or not |
| 15:07.36 | EKS | Is there any way to find out what part of a addon is using the most CPU time? ( cpu time pr line or pr function profiling) ? |
| 15:07.39 | MoonWitch | durcyn, I did say he needed to use <img src="" /> the /> acts as closing tag since img doesn't have a </img> |
| 15:08.04 | durcyn | MoonWitch: <img> is a special case, it doesn't have a closing tag |
| 15:08.29 | MoonWitch | durcyn, read again what I typed, you're trying to correct me while I am saying the same ;) |
| 15:08.59 | MoonWitch | in dA's case if you do not use /> your layout will break in 90% of the cases |
| 15:08.59 | durcyn | MoonWitch: nah, just surprised they specifically ask for a self-closing tag on it, nevermind =) |
| 15:09.27 | MoonWitch | I hardly use HTML anyhow |
| 15:09.28 | MoonWitch | lol |
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| 15:09.51 | MoonWitch | just the base tags with php and mostly css |
| 15:10.07 | MoonWitch | but let's not get started about css and browser compatibility :( |
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| 15:12.17 | lanzit | cncfanatics : can make certain rank of spell on a button instead of max one? |
| 15:16.14 | Gagorian | Why would Quartz whine that player module is missing? |
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| 15:18.37 | fatbrain | *poke* |
| 15:19.06 | fatbrain | So I have this idea for a great movie... Any suggestions for a good dagger build for zi rogues? |
| 15:19.09 | fatbrain | (off-topic) |
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| 15:22.04 | cncfanatics | Ianzit, just don't drag the max rank on the button |
| 15:22.46 | cncfanatics | Gagorian, btw, I made a small fix to DrDamage's FB code not long ago, hope u don't mind |
| 15:23.15 | CIA-12 | 03cwdg * r51271 10Babble-2.2/Babble-Spell-2.2/Babble-Spell-2.2.lua: |
| 15:23.15 | CIA-12 | Babble-2.2: |
| 15:23.16 | CIA-12 | -fix zhCN local translate bug |
| 15:25.33 | MoonWitch | does anyone know if there's a restriction on shapes of borders? |
| 15:28.10 | lanzit | cncfanatics : i want it to be a lower rank for one button though is always the max one when i put it on |
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| 15:32.24 | cncfanatics | Ianzit, what version of FB u using ? and what client u on ? german ? |
| 15:32.37 | cncfanatics | do /fb rev |
| 15:32.42 | cncfanatics | to find out what version of FB u run |
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| 15:35.14 | CIA-12 | 03trasher * r51272 10AtlasLoot/Constants/constants.fr.lua: |
| 15:35.14 | CIA-12 | AtlasLoot: |
| 15:35.14 | CIA-12 | - Fixed Typo |
| 15:35.14 | CIA-12 | - Update French |
| 15:35.55 | cncfanatics | Ianzit ? |
| 15:36.13 | CIA-12 | 03trasher * r51273 10AtlasLoot/TableRegister/loottables.fr.lua: |
| 15:36.13 | CIA-12 | AtlasLoot: |
| 15:36.13 | CIA-12 | - Fixed Typo |
| 15:36.13 | CIA-12 | - Update French |
| 15:37.25 | lanzit | its at home i dont can tell |
| 15:39.41 | CIA-12 | 03hyperactiveChipmunk * r51274 10BulkMail2/ (BulkMail2.toc CHANGELOG): |
| 15:39.41 | CIA-12 | BulkMail2: 2.2 |
| 15:39.41 | CIA-12 | - .toc bump to 20200 |
| 15:39.41 | CIA-12 | - version bump to 2.2 |
| 15:39.41 | CIA-12 | - CHANGELOG updated |
| 15:39.42 | cncfanatics | when did u last update ? |
| 15:40.00 | cncfanatics | and do u use the english version of Wow ? :p |
| 15:41.38 | CIA-12 | 03hyperactiveChipmunk * r51275 10BulkMail2Inbox/BulkMail2Inbox.toc: |
| 15:41.38 | CIA-12 | BulkMail2Inbox: |
| 15:41.38 | CIA-12 | - .toc bump to 20200 |
| 15:43.07 | CIA-12 | 03hyperactiveChipmunk 072.2 * r51276 10BulkMail2/: |
| 15:43.07 | CIA-12 | BulkMail2: (TAG) |
| 15:43.07 | CIA-12 | - tagging v2.2 |
| 15:43.40 | CIA-12 | 03hyperactiveChipmunk 072.0 * r51277 10BulkMail2Inbox/: |
| 15:43.40 | CIA-12 | BulkMail2Inbox: (TAG) |
| 15:43.40 | CIA-12 | - tagging v2.0 |
| 15:44.30 | cirdan | hey, anyone here use trinketmenu? it's been having a really weird resize bug most of the time with wow 2.2 |
| 15:45.38 | hyperChipmunk | yes, but no such problems |
| 15:46.07 | cirdan | hmm, it happens even with no other mods, wonder why it hits some people |
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| 15:56.13 | Fisker- | anything new in bulkmail at all? |
| 15:56.37 | hyperChipmunk | no |
| 15:58.21 | sylvanaar | http://derey.home.mindspring.com/wowscrnshot_100707_101335.jpg |
| 15:58.22 | Fisker- | nooooooooooo uuuuuuu |
| 15:59.00 | Fisker- | shopped sylvanaar |
| 15:59.07 | Fisker- | i can see from the pixels, seen a few shops, etc. |
| 16:00.10 | Tuller | ok bug report time :) |
| 16:00.41 | sylvanaar | nope |
| 16:00.51 | sylvanaar | its authentic |
| 16:01.21 | sylvanaar | needs a name |
| 16:01.23 | Gnarfoz | sylvanaar: Tattle_LFM? |
| 16:01.29 | Gnarfoz | already on the SVN ^^ |
| 16:01.33 | sylvanaar | i had Talented_LFM |
| 16:01.39 | Gnarfoz | ah |
| 16:01.40 | sylvanaar | but its not tied to either |
| 16:01.40 | Gnarfoz | :> |
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| 16:02.21 | sylvanaar | i guess something unoriginal |
| 16:02.24 | Tuller | AceLibrary.lua 33: attempt to compare nil with number; Triggered by autobar + omnicc. I'm going to blame ckknight :P |
| 16:02.38 | sylvanaar | EnhancedLFM |
| 16:04.14 | snurre | hmm.. shaving my balls, then using an "extreme mint" shower gel was.. interesting.. |
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| 16:05.43 | cirdan | it's like a party in your pants |
| 16:06.06 | snurre | but youre not invited |
| 16:06.06 | Pkekyo | kiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiick the baby! |
| 16:06.12 | cirdan | well, if you use blue gold bond to powder yourself |
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| 16:07.26 | Tuller | ok yes |
| 16:08.48 | cncfanatics | Tuller, ur gonna blame ckk for a bug in acelibrary ? :p |
| 16:08.53 | cncfanatics | just add a check :p |
| 16:09.00 | Dezzimal | be careful with gold bond |
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| 16:09.08 | Tuller | cncfanatics: yes I am :P |
| 16:09.21 | Dezzimal | that stuff will light your balls on fire on occasion |
| 16:09.57 | Varazir | Hello, the autobar, how do I reset it ? |
| 16:10.19 | Dezzimal | rtfm |
| 16:10.27 | Varazir | sorry |
| 16:10.36 | cncfanatics | Tuller, ckknight has more important matters in his hands then fix a bug in ace :p go blame someone else :) |
| 16:11.02 | Tuller | cncfanatics: you mean, like fixing a bug with a libstub library that he converted? :) |
| 16:11.22 | cncfanatics | Tuller, yea |
| 16:11.25 | RaydenUni | http://onefile.raydenuni.com/one_file/onefile/1/fill_test.png <-- look in awe at my beautiful polygons |
| 16:11.30 | the-golem | ummmmm |
| 16:11.45 | Varazir | another noob question how do I get up the config page when I can't even see the bar at all |
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| 16:13.09 | Varazir | I need 1 use /command or delte a file/row in a conf file |
| 16:13.37 | Tuller | cncfanatics: fine, no one can us shared media with rock :P |
| 16:13.45 | cncfanatics | Tuller, why is that ? |
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| 16:13.57 | Tuller | cncfanatics: because that's where the bug is at :) |
| 16:14.21 | CIA-12 | 03sylvanaar * r51278 10EnhancedLFG/ (. EnhancedLFG.toc core.lua embeds.xml): EnhancedLFG: Initial Import |
| 16:14.30 | cncfanatics | Tuller, WTB errormessage |
| 16:14.36 | cncfanatics | if you sell it, I might actualy fix it too |
| 16:14.38 | Bruners | url to wau 2.0 is ? |
| 16:14.48 | cncfanatics | Bruners, google.com |
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| 16:15.10 | Tuller | cncfanatics: AceLibrary.lua 33: attempt to compare nil with number; Its caused by copy and pasting a bad libstub into LibSharedMedia |
| 16:15.28 | Nandini | ~wau2 |
| 16:15.28 | purl | from memory, wau2 is http://wowace.com/wau2 |
| 16:15.32 | CIA-12 | 03cwdg * r51279 10RaidAgent/ (RaidAgent.toc common/Localization.cn.lua): |
| 16:15.32 | CIA-12 | RaidAgent: |
| 16:15.32 | CIA-12 | - add zhCN local,but now in cwow can't work.in some day I will translate all . |
| 16:15.45 | Pkekyo | RaydenUni: polygons for what? |
| 16:16.00 | RaydenUni | Pkekyo my graphics class |
| 16:16.15 | RaydenUni | we had to write a polygon fill algorithm. you know the one that's been in graphics hardware for 20 years |
| 16:16.18 | Pkekyo | aren't polygons supposed to have straight edges? |
| 16:16.26 | cladhaire | oh, that commit message looks promising |
| 16:16.34 | cncfanatics | Tuller, then ckknight should fix his stuff I guess |
| 16:16.36 | RaydenUni | the problem is your monitor is pixel based Pkekyo |
| 16:16.45 | CIA-12 | 03cwdg * r51280 10Omen/localization_zhCN.lua: |
| 16:16.45 | CIA-12 | Omen: |
| 16:16.45 | CIA-12 | - add "show version" zhCN local |
| 16:16.48 | RaydenUni | actually, the problem is your hardware is pixel based |
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| 16:16.51 | Varazir | nm |
| 16:16.57 | Pkekyo | RaydenUni: oh well...nevermind me then |
| 16:17.01 | Varazir | I found it :) |
| 16:17.11 | RaydenUni | Pkekyo they have straight edges, but because the resolution is finite you get aliasing |
| 16:17.18 | RaydenUni | anti aliasing was not part of the assignment |
| 16:17.26 | RaydenUni | the lines are as straight as you can get them |
| 16:17.29 | Pkekyo | hms |
| 16:17.50 | Kaelten | na clad|away nothing scary about those commit messages, nothing |
| 16:18.14 | Kaelten | g'morning all |
| 16:19.03 | Pkekyo | RaydenUni: I'll have to get back to being nab later, gotta drive someone :) |
| 16:19.05 | clad|away | Kaelten: email ping |
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| 16:19.15 | Kaelten | clad|away: yep just saw that |
| 16:19.20 | Kaelten | I'll get you set up |
| 16:19.27 | RaydenUni | Pkekyo i assumed that conversation was over |
| 16:20.55 | Pkekyo | RaydenUni: might be, haven't had time to read it all yet :) |
| 16:21.15 | Pkekyo | basicly, anti aliasing straightens the edges of polygons? |
| 16:21.18 | Tuller | so, who wants to do me a favor and fix the bug with LibSharedMedia? :) |
| 16:21.18 | RaydenUni | Pkekyo it's over. but we'll always have polygons |
| 16:21.23 | RaydenUni | you don't know what anti aliasing is? |
| 16:21.25 | hyperChipmunk | fuzzes them |
| 16:21.37 | Pkekyo | RaydenUni: not really, I just enable it in my games 'cause it sounds fancypants |
| 16:21.38 | RaydenUni | its an optical illusion really |
| 16:21.43 | harldephin | an option to truncate, fade or remove certain texts on PitBull's bars when in-combat would be nice. |
| 16:21.43 | RaydenUni | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti_aliasing |
| 16:21.54 | RaydenUni | it adds "gray" colors at the edge to make it look smoother |
| 16:22.18 | Pkekyo | sounds fancy, but I've gotta go :) laters |
| 16:22.21 | RaydenUni | effectively it blurs the edge |
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| 16:23.00 | Tuller | cncfanatics: to fix it, all you need to do is replace the libstub code at the top of LibSharedMedia-2.0.lua with LibStub's 1.0 tag |
| 16:23.10 | Nandini | it attempts to create the illusion of a "partially filled" pixel |
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| 16:23.51 | MoonWitch | Anyone wanna make a guess why this texture (black parts = black in alpha) isn't working. Dimensions 400 x 50 .. http://images5.pictiger.com/thumbs/1d/153b0dd387aaab14d8b8ddbe496f3d1d.th.jpg |
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| 16:25.07 | Nandini | MoonWitch, what are you trying to use it for? if it's a border, it needs to have 8 segments |
| 16:25.19 | Tuller | ckknight: poke |
| 16:25.41 | MoonWitch | it has 8 segments the width is 400/8 = 50 |
| 16:25.57 | Nandini | sorry i just caught that :) |
| 16:26.35 | Nandini | the TGA is all white and this jpg represents its alpha channel? |
| 16:26.58 | MoonWitch | Nandini, the tga is as that looks ... the alpha is the same |
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| 16:27.26 | MoonWitch | I get hopelessly lost on the border thing, normal background tga's work - though not too well... it's my 3rd wow texture have mercy :P |
| 16:28.13 | Nandini | one sec i will reassemble it |
| 16:30.15 | Nandini | try making your image size in powers of 2. scale it up to 512 x 64 |
| 16:30.53 | Tuller | ckknight: effectively all of the libraries you've converted to use LibStub are using a broken version of it. So, replace all of the libstub code in em with a good version :) |
| 16:31.19 | MoonWitch | ok Nandini so it's gotta be power of 2, and width has to be dividable by 8 as well? |
| 16:31.32 | Nandini | both dimensions have to be a power of 2 |
| 16:31.35 | cncfanatics | if its a power of 2 i'm pretty sure its dividable by 8 as long as its bigger then 8 |
| 16:31.43 | Nandini | they don't have to be the same dimension |
| 16:32.02 | harldephin | oh. there's an InCombat tag. good. |
| 16:32.17 | Nandini | yes, but not all numbers that are divisible by 8 are powers of 2 |
| 16:32.46 | MoonWitch | in my case I found the numbers divisible by 8, that werent powers of 2! |
| 16:32.47 | MoonWitch | lol |
| 16:32.49 | cncfanatics | Nandini, so what ? it has to be a power of 2, not dividable by 8 :p |
| 16:33.15 | cncfanatics | 24 wld be a wrong one for example I guess :p |
| 16:33.32 | Nandini | another trick you might try that would be good for this image would be filling the entire foreground with white |
| 16:33.41 | Nandini | (after you've created the alpha mask) |
| 16:33.47 | Nandini | it will give you sharper edges |
| 16:34.12 | sag_ich_nicht | [18:30] <Tuller> ckknight: effectively all of the libraries you've converted to use LibStub are using a broken version of it. So, replace all of the libstub code in em with a good version :) <--lol wut? |
| 16:34.12 | Nandini | otherwise you will be applying a 50% alpha on top of a 50% gray color on the corners, when what you really wanted was 50% alpha of white |
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| 16:34.40 | BlackVelvet | lolz omg hi |
| 16:35.01 | MoonWitch | oh thanks Nandini I've actually never used Alpha channels :P just layer masks |
| 16:35.07 | cryogen | Kaelten: while you;re there.. ;) |
| 16:35.23 | Nandini | yup, think of how shape masks (just another type of layer masks work) and you get the idea |
| 16:35.30 | MoonWitch | which in essence are about the same, alpha channels just remain in the file if it's not in psd |
| 16:35.30 | Kaelten | :P |
| 16:35.37 | Nandini | a white circle shape is actually a circular mask on top of an entirely white background |
| 16:35.42 | MoonWitch | yeah |
| 16:35.48 | cncfanatics | Kaelten, give cryogen an svn acc so he can serve his master better ! :p |
| 16:35.50 | cryogen | ha! thereyou are |
| 16:36.03 | MoonWitch | why didn't I just connect those LOL ... layer mask/shape mask == alpha chan |
| 16:36.31 | CIA-12 | 03sylvanaar * r51281 10EnhancedLFG/ (6 files in 2 dirs): EnhancedLFG: externals |
| 16:36.36 | Nandini | the more you practice, the better your textures will get. this one looks very cool! |
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| 16:37.17 | Nandini | and the edges are fat enough that you can still set the rectangular inset frame inside it and keep the round corners |
| 16:37.20 | MoonWitch | Nandini, the only issue is. my texture will require 2 layers of panels, the background HAS to be fully transparent, otherwise it will not show fully |
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| 16:40.09 | Nandini | i wish we could use the minimap's masking method to determine which parts of a frame catch clicks |
| 16:40.22 | Nandini | setportraittotexture still keeps the square area |
| 16:40.23 | MoonWitch | Nandini, eh? |
| 16:42.28 | MoonWitch | I can't get used GImp ... gah.. I am such a photoshop ho |
| 16:42.30 | Varazir | I have a qustion, maybe not so much with this UI but, When I go from caster to cat I like my tracking change from herb to humanio, can that be done ? |
| 16:42.48 | cncfanatics | Varazir, no |
| 16:43.07 | cncfanatics | in a macro eventualy if track herb/humanoid doesnt trigger global cd, but thats it |
| 16:44.55 | Varazir | cncfanatics it dose that :( okay thanks |
| 16:45.11 | Nandini | Varazir, get rid of herbalism, then track humanoids comes on automatically when you go into cat form :P |
| 16:46.24 | Varazir | ya if I allway's has it on it dose |
| 16:46.25 | Nandini | you could try using in a macro, /cancelaura Find Herbs /cast Cat Form() |
| 16:46.43 | Nandini | put a stopcasting in there for good measure |
| 16:47.13 | Nandini | does track humanoids come on automatically if you have no other tracking on? |
| 16:47.16 | Xelopheris | yes |
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| 16:47.39 | Xelopheris | I didn't buy that damn skill until it did :P |
| 16:47.59 | hyperChipmunk | wtf |
| 16:48.02 | hyperChipmunk | i want that |
| 16:48.16 | Xelopheris | HC: You're a hunter, I take it? |
| 16:50.32 | CIA-12 | 03anxarces * r51282 10ProfessionsBook/ (8 files): |
| 16:50.32 | CIA-12 | ProfessionsBook: |
| 16:50.32 | CIA-12 | - Fixed missing files |
| 16:53.47 | hyperChipmunk | yes |
| 16:53.51 | EKS | Is there any way to find out what part of a addon is using the most CPU time? ( cpu time pr line or pr function profiling) ? |
| 16:54.22 | Pkekyo | I FUCKING HATE PEDESTRIANS |
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| 16:55.40 | CIA-12 | 03sylvanaar * r51283 10EnhancedLFG/EnhancedLFG.toc: EnhancedLFG: Fix the x-embeds line, add optdep |
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| 16:56.09 | hyperChipmunk | EKS: try expo |
| 16:56.28 | aestil | ckknight: the color picker for power in Pitbull caused CTD |
| 16:56.34 | sylvanaar | expo is pretty good - it can be a little misleading tho |
| 16:57.02 | Nandini | aestil, try changing the color directly in the SV file |
| 16:57.08 | Nandini | as a temporary workaround |
| 16:57.59 | aestil | yeah, its not a huge problem, but it happened 3 times in a row, so i'm pretty sure it wasn't just coincidence. |
| 16:57.59 | phoenixphy | moo? |
| 16:58.08 | Xelopheris | no aestil, I have the same problems |
| 16:58.09 | Nandini | i had the same issue with the frame background color picker several revisions ago, but after changing it in my SV to get rid of any components that were zero, it works okay now |
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| 16:58.17 | Xelopheris | I just went and manually did my SV files |
| 16:58.39 | Nandini | if r g or b is 0, it somehow ends up as nil in the SVs |
| 16:58.50 | Nandini | (maybe that's been fixed, haven't tested recently) |
| 16:59.47 | Xelopheris | maybe that's why my roommate's rainbow UI doesn't crash when he adjusts the colors >.> |
| 17:00.19 | Xelopheris | 'cause I definitely run r=0 g=0, he has a bit of everything in every damn color |
| 17:00.45 | Nandini | if b = 0 for your power bar and is stuck as b = nil in your SVs, try changing it to 0.004 |
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| 17:02.17 | Xelopheris | let me remote into my tower and try that :P (working on UI from another computer is definitely interesting sometimes) |
| 17:02.33 | Grum | aestil: you sure you got the last version? |
| 17:02.50 | Grum | there were some color swatch problems in inline groups |
| 17:03.27 | Nandini | is it possible those problems have stuck around if a color already had a component set to nil in the SVs? |
| 17:04.14 | Xelopheris | I would definitely say so |
| 17:05.17 | CIA-12 | 03sylvanaar * r51284 10EnhancedLFG/core.lua: EnhancedLFG: Fix typo, color classes |
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| 17:06.26 | elusif | does anybody's armoury avatat not look like their real one? |
| 17:06.50 | Grum | mine is a nekid pr0n model |
| 17:06.55 | Grum | looks exactly alike O.o |
| 17:07.01 | elusif | woot! |
| 17:07.08 | Grum | hoot(ers!) |
| 17:07.15 | Aeyan | They're just one for each race/class/levelbracket, so yeah |
| 17:07.21 | elusif | nah really though it's a gnome rogue but it's got hair and doesn't look ugly |
| 17:07.25 | elusif | ahh k |
| 17:07.26 | elusif | ty |
| 17:08.00 | elusif | they should change that |
| 17:08.00 | Aeyan | Hehe |
| 17:08.00 | elusif | how good a gfx card do i need to run everything on high settings? |
| 17:08.01 | elusif | i get lag in major cities and especially in shat |
| 17:08.12 | elusif | i don't notice it when i'm questing but people tell me they see me lag |
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| 17:10.56 | Xelopheris | I would say GeForce 7800+ or ATI equivalent to do shatt at full power |
| 17:11.05 | Xelopheris | simply due to the retarded amount of NPCs there |
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| 17:12.04 | elusif | k i'll check the price |
| 17:13.43 | elusif | sweet i can get them for under 200 eurodollurz |
| 17:13.50 | aestil | grum, yes using latest version |
| 17:13.50 | elusif | might it be the ram? |
| 17:13.54 | elusif | i only have 1gb |
| 17:14.11 | Aeyan | 6600gt and 1gb of ram gets me by fine |
| 17:14.15 | Aeyan | Without AA or AS |
| 17:14.20 | elusif | AA AS? |
| 17:14.27 | Xelopheris | Anti-aliasing |
| 17:14.29 | Xelopheris | and... |
| 17:14.33 | Aeyan | Antialiasing and antistropic filtering |
| 17:14.40 | elusif | hmm |
| 17:14.50 | elusif | i want them all on max |
| 17:15.00 | elusif | because tbh i think the graphics need a rehaul |
| 17:15.15 | elusif | gameplay can't be beat though! :D |
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| 17:16.11 | Xelopheris | graphics engine won't be rehauled until wotlk earliest |
| 17:16.23 | Xelopheris | because they can't simply cut out some of their customers who had the minimums back in WoW 1.0 |
| 17:16.38 | Xelopheris | http://www.ncix.com/products/index.php?sku=22630&vpn=PVT80GGHE4&manufacture=XFX<<-- new baby on order |
| 17:16.59 | elusif | maybe someone from blizz would be able to tell me how good a gfx card i'll need for wotlk |
| 17:17.04 | Hjalte | By the looks of the screenshots from wotlk it seems they did do something about the graphics |
| 17:17.12 | elusif | hope so |
| 17:17.19 | elusif | hope the nerf fear some more too! |
| 17:17.22 | elusif | *they |
| 17:17.34 | Xelopheris | there are only three major patches in which fear hasn't been nerfed. |
| 17:18.27 | elusif | it's too powerful imho |
| 17:18.45 | elusif | maybe i'll have a different perspective when i have insignia of the alliance |
| 17:18.52 | Xelopheris | medallion? |
| 17:18.55 | elusif | trinket |
| 17:19.00 | rob` | warlocks are so completely f'd without fear :/ |
| 17:19.05 | elusif | lol i know! |
| 17:19.19 | elusif | trinket - medallion? |
| 17:19.23 | elusif | = |
| 17:19.27 | rob` | back in the day, warlocks were basically your free honour kill. |
| 17:19.58 | elusif | ya i'm sick of all this lock affirmative action bs |
| 17:20.00 | elusif | :D |
| 17:20.05 | MoonWitch | elusif, I play on decent settings in 1280*1024, ATI 800GTO |
| 17:20.58 | elusif | kk ty |
| 17:21.11 | MoonWitch | the only thing I don't have maxed is AA and AS, AA is half-ish .. AS no idea lol |
| 17:21.23 | elusif | would maxing them all out make a big difference? |
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| 17:21.46 | MoonWitch | I'd lag like mental in cities I am sure |
| 17:22.09 | MoonWitch | a X800GTO is old compared to recent cards (not to mention I have an AGP system still) |
| 17:22.22 | Xelopheris | well there's your problem |
| 17:22.28 | Xelopheris | PCI-E ftw |
| 17:22.41 | elusif | i have nvidia pci-e |
| 17:22.43 | MoonWitch | yeah well, money is the porblem :P |
| 17:22.46 | MoonWitch | problem* |
| 17:22.49 | elusif | money sux |
| 17:22.53 | elusif | pay with wow gold! :D |
| 17:23.27 | MoonWitch | sadly it doesn't work |
| 17:23.30 | elusif | or go into a computer shop and say 'money plzzzz i am the nubcakes' |
| 17:23.33 | MoonWitch | I do have an X1650pro in the closet |
| 17:23.35 | Xelopheris | It's amazing how easy it is to translate wow gold into money. There's some spoiled rich kid on my server that sells gamecards for gold |
| 17:23.51 | MoonWitch | sadly that card was DOA and the company I bought it from never replied .. |
| 17:24.04 | Grum | l2whine harder to em MoonWitch |
| 17:24.04 | elusif | :( |
| 17:24.21 | MoonWitch | Grum, ok :) |
| 17:24.33 | elusif | Xelopheris: is that against the rules? |
| 17:24.45 | Xelopheris | shhhhh |
| 17:24.49 | elusif | oh sorry! |
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| 17:25.06 | MoonWitch | Grum, but uhm about 60 emails in 3 months, 17 phonecalls later.. I am still at the same place. I gave up and got the x800 lol |
| 17:28.16 | CIA-12 | 03sylvanaar * r51285 10EnhancedLFG/core.lua: EnhancedLFG: Color levels |
| 17:30.09 | elusif | see the way many people have more than one character |
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| 17:30.29 | elusif | wouldn't that time be better spent just having one character and when you reach 70 getting better and better gear |
| 17:30.40 | elusif | have one ultimate 70 instead of a few great ones? |
| 17:30.56 | LaGGy | the thing is |
| 17:31.00 | LaGGy | at some point when you're 70 |
| 17:31.08 | LaGGy | you cease to be able to do stuff by yourself to get better gear |
| 17:31.14 | LaGGy | so you have to rely on other people |
| 17:31.20 | elusif | ya in guild |
| 17:31.24 | elusif | or pvp |
| 17:31.25 | elusif | ? |
| 17:31.28 | elusif | instance etc |
| 17:31.34 | LaGGy | well im talking PvE wise |
| 17:31.38 | elusif | kk |
| 17:31.45 | elusif | go on |
| 17:32.06 | LaGGy | i guess you could pvp for gear, but the normal pvp gear isnt that great compared to the arena gear, and when you're talking about arena gear you run into the same situation |
| 17:32.20 | elusif | arena = level 70 instance? |
| 17:32.29 | elusif | i always though arena was pvp from the name |
| 17:32.37 | LaGGy | arena is pvp |
| 17:32.48 | LaGGy | but its a specific pvp with specific people |
| 17:32.55 | LaGGy | you make a team, and play with them every week |
| 17:33.06 | elusif | you have to be attuned to it? |
| 17:33.06 | LaGGy | so you need them to be online and want to play |
| 17:33.13 | LaGGy | no you just have to be level 70 |
| 17:33.22 | elusif | so do it with other 70s from lfg? |
| 17:33.39 | LaGGy | and, it uses a different point pool than battlegrounds |
| 17:33.43 | elusif | kk |
| 17:34.20 | LaGGy | well you "could" do that, but to make a team costs 40g per person (70g for 2v2 team, 120 for 3v3, 200 for 5v5) |
| 17:34.29 | elusif | you have to pay for arena? |
| 17:34.36 | LaGGy | and if you pick bad people, you get a bad rating and therefore dont get as many points |
| 17:34.36 | elusif | oh to form a team you pay |
| 17:34.46 | LaGGy | ya just to form the team |
| 17:34.48 | elusif | so it's better to stay in one team |
| 17:34.58 | LaGGy | if they're good :O |
| 17:35.04 | elusif | i'd like to get on a team that did the arena everyday |
| 17:35.29 | elusif | i take your point now: when your team aren't playing you may aswell start another toon and focus on a different arena/team |
| 17:35.41 | CIA-12 | 03charon * r51286 10Postman/Postman.lua: |
| 17:35.41 | CIA-12 | Postman: |
| 17:35.41 | CIA-12 | - kludge to fix SV breakage resulting from past bugs |
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| 17:37.38 | MoonWitch | anyone know why on earth with postal and bulkmail (tested seperately) I need to open my mailbox again after I clear it to get rid of the icon? |
| 17:38.51 | Grum | is xionglingfeng online on irc? |
| 17:38.54 | Grum | does anyone know him? |
| 17:38.55 | Cyrez | MoonWitch: Blame Blizz, lol. Try other addons like them and the same thing will happen. The trick is to open everything -1, then open the last thing by hand. |
| 17:39.04 | Grum | (svn username) |
| 17:39.16 | Nandini | he never seems to come in irc grum |
| 17:39.23 | MoonWitch | ah .. so blizz is being stupid |
| 17:39.24 | Nandini | we suspect he doesn't even have wow installed on his computer |
| 17:39.31 | MoonWitch | Cyrez, thanks :) |
| 17:39.35 | Cyrez | ;) |
| 17:39.48 | Grum | Nandini: he fucked up a change in LibRockConfig ... bad merge orso O.o |
| 17:39.56 | Grum | oh well i'll fix it |
| 17:40.14 | Nandini | Grum: Yes, that happens every time he touches something. |
| 17:41.03 | Nandini | I'm all for getting localization help, but some of these people can't seem to be bothered to even check their syntax before committing. |
| 17:42.10 | Grum | Nandini: seriously? |
| 17:42.17 | Grum | he forgets to svn up so it seems |
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| 17:43.52 | Tinyboom | can't someone remove his access until he gets the point? :p |
| 17:44.11 | CIA-12 | 03grum * r51287 10LibRockConfig-1.0/LibRockConfig-1.0.lua: |
| 17:44.11 | CIA-12 | LibRockConfig-1.0: |
| 17:44.11 | CIA-12 | - Reapplied fix done in rev. 51084. xionglingfeng: l2svnup before you push. |
| 17:46.03 | CIA-12 | tekkub-wow: 03mikko.majuri * r599 10/trunk/TourGuide/ (3 files in 2 dirs): TourGuide: 12_17_Darkshore confirmed working, added in .toc |
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| 17:46.40 | CIA-12 | 03nimbal * r51288 10/branches/Buffalo2/ (19 files in 2 dirs): |
| 17:46.40 | CIA-12 | Buffalo2: |
| 17:46.40 | CIA-12 | * More akin to Blizzards weird let's-look-for-all-buffs-every-frame method of assigning buffs |
| 17:46.40 | CIA-12 | * Still a few kinks |
| 17:46.40 | CIA-12 | * not tested in raid or group environment |
| 17:46.41 | CIA-12 | * maybe memory hog |
| 17:46.43 | CIA-12 | * back to thesis |
| 17:48.31 | Grum | oh well, just really happy that i can fix this stuff now ^^ |
| 17:51.02 | Fisker- | yay |
| 17:51.05 | Fisker- | buffalo updatez |
| 17:51.22 | CIA-12 | 03sylvanaar * r51289 10EnhancedLFG/libs/includes.xml: EnhancedLFG: change to use lib.xml |
| 17:51.55 | aestil | sylvanaar: what is enhancedLFG? |
| 17:52.06 | aestil | ~enhancedLFG |
| 17:52.17 | aestil | ~what is EnahncedLFG |
| 17:52.18 | purl | ACTION is EnahncedLFG to understand recursion, you must first understand recursion |
| 17:52.59 | Tuller | good job |
| 17:53.05 | Polarina | :) |
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| 17:56.03 | EKS | Is there any way to find out what part of a addon is using the most CPU time? ( cpu time pr line or pr function profiling) ? |
| 17:57.28 | Tuller | http://www.wowwiki.com/World_of_Warcraft_API#Script_Profiling_Functions |
| 17:58.02 | sylvanaar | aestil http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=9149.0 |
| 17:58.19 | Tuller | oh hey, I didn't know about GetEventCPU usage |
| 17:58.40 | Grum | aestil: colors/TalentTree showing in the LFG panel |
| 17:58.50 | aestil | nice. |
| 17:58.56 | aestil | this is a very useful thing. |
| 17:59.03 | Grum | 'Stuff Blizzard should have implemented ages ago (C)' |
| 17:59.31 | aestil | yeah, no doubt, they will, eventually. |
| 17:59.46 | Tuller | well like a month ago |
| 17:59.48 | Fisker- | Your Mother(tm) |
| 17:59.57 | Tuller | ness! |
| 18:00.04 | Chompers | don't steal from nighthawk Fisker- |
| 18:00.09 | Chompers | you bad person |
| 18:00.17 | Fisker- | gonna slit your throat :/ |
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| 18:01.41 | Fisker- | sup Bibi |
| 18:01.55 | Dodo | hi |
| 18:01.55 | Bibi | yay m8 ! |
| 18:01.56 | Bibi | sup ! |
| 18:01.58 | Bibi | how re u ! |
| 18:02.05 | Bibi | my good fella ! |
| 18:02.21 | Tuller | I still want to kill you all for sticking talent stuff into rockcomm but that's still a dead horse |
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| 18:03.29 | Tuller | since the response is always going to be: "we need to make sure we have this enabled by default because we *know* that users won't disable it if they don't know its there!" |
| 18:03.42 | Tuller | lol network effect and such |
| 18:04.15 | Tuller | stick it in LibSharingIsCaring or something :) |
| 18:04.15 | harldephin | is there a way to switch between the default chat frame's tabs using hotkeys? |
| 18:04.29 | nymbia | talent stuff? O.o |
| 18:04.36 | dylanm | harldephin: I believe there's an addon on wowi that allows exactly that. |
| 18:04.39 | CIA-12 | 03nimbal * r51290 10/branches/Buffalo2/Buffalo2.lua: |
| 18:04.39 | CIA-12 | Buffalo2: |
| 18:04.39 | CIA-12 | * fixed two possible nil errors |
| 18:04.44 | nymbia | i thought the point was to be lighter than ace2 |
| 18:04.54 | Fisker- | nymbia rockcomm sends your talents |
| 18:05.00 | dylanm | Lemme find it. |
| 18:05.08 | dylanm | harldephin: http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info6914-ChatFrameKeys.html |
| 18:05.33 | Tuller | I'm going with rock's goal now to be a big monolithic thing that gives you everything you might possibly want in development |
| 18:05.39 | nymbia | well Tuller says it's a dead horse so i'm sure there's no point to asking.. but.. why? |
| 18:06.04 | aestil | tuller, don't lie |
| 18:06.15 | Tuller | aestil: hrm? :P |
| 18:06.22 | Fisker- | no idea, probably cowtip being able to show talent spec in tooltips |
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| 18:06.35 | dylanm | Tuller has been practising his necromancy. |
| 18:06.45 | aestil | nymbia: its like addon version querry, same basic thing. |
| 18:06.48 | Dodo | hi everybody, i'm looking for an addon which modificate the combat log , for example [You] crit [X] y damage. |
| 18:06.49 | Tuller | aestil: if I replaced "everything you possibly want" with "everything useful?" |
| 18:07.06 | CIA-12 | tekkub-wow: 03mikko.majuri * r600 10/trunk/TourGuide/Alliance/06_12_Teldrassil.lua: TourGuide: missed "" in the file |
| 18:07.21 | durcyn | http://www.metacafe.com/w/856526 |
| 18:07.29 | aestil | hmm, try the sentence again that way. |
| 18:07.57 | nymbia | right, and i'd argue that addon version query didn't belong either, considering the goals of Rock that I had heard... |
| 18:07.59 | aestil | my guess, is that blizzard will put the talent thing in the API soon, and then it'll come out of RockComm. |
| 18:08.19 | aestil | nymbia: both can be turned off. |
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| 18:08.24 | Tuller | I'm going with rock's goal now to be a big monolithic thing that gives you everything that's possibly useful for addon development |
| 18:08.28 | Tuller | better? :P |
| 18:08.40 | durcyn | "for various definitions of useful" |
| 18:08.52 | aestil | nymbia: also, ckk will put anything in that he thinks is useful for enough developers. |
| 18:09.02 | Tuller | gg feature creep :) |
| 18:09.13 | aestil | tuller, i think the part thats throughing me off is 'i'm going with' |
| 18:09.15 | Fisker- | aestil last i checked the whole discussion about it was at the fact it COULDN'T be disabled |
| 18:09.29 | aestil | Fisker-: it can be. |
| 18:09.35 | Tuller | yep |
| 18:09.38 | aestil | i'll screen it for you. |
| 18:09.40 | Tuller | and its enabled by default :) |
| 18:09.46 | Tuller | to prey on innocent users :P |
| 18:09.55 | aestil | *shrugs* that arguement is weak. |
| 18:10.04 | aestil | the argeument that it doesn't belong in a core lib... ok, whatever. |
| 18:10.12 | nymbia | that's contradictory. you either keep it slim or you don't, end of story. not saying that adding that sort of thing is necessarily bad, but, it's not slim. |
| 18:10.14 | aestil | i'm not a dev, i don't care, and it doesn't bother me. |
| 18:10.34 | dylanm | People must never know about my 20/20/21 insanity |
| 18:10.35 | aestil | nymbia: rock appears to me, to be considerablly lighter and more efficient than ace2. |
| 18:10.47 | Tuller | it is for now :) |
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| 18:11.11 | Nandini | evolution usually tends toward increasing complexity |
| 18:11.13 | Tuller | at least the initial memory footprint is smaller, I've not benchmarked it |
| 18:11.15 | durcyn | that's more to do with aceoo being huge than rock being small |
| 18:11.23 | aestil | i feel bad, because I was a very strong proponent of putting the talent nonsense in rockcomm so that everyoen using cowtip and pitbull or whatever would have it. |
| 18:11.41 | aestil | ckk makes his own decions, but i think i'm the average user. |
| 18:11.49 | aestil | i think the average user goes 'cool, talent spec' |
| 18:12.01 | aestil | and its only devs that go 'oh noes, its complicated now' |
| 18:12.08 | dylanm | I kept telling Shadowed to make Scrooge broadcast 1/33/7 instead. |
| 18:12.48 | CIA-12 | 03saroz * r51291 10BigWigs/Hyjal/HyjalSummit.lua: BigWigs: Tweaks |
| 18:12.49 | Xelopheris | lol |
| 18:13.13 | Nandini | what happens when i face a same-faction opponent team in the arena? |
| 18:13.17 | nymbia | aestil: but then, what are the reasons that rock and ace3 and dongle all exist? because of that same feature creep in ace2. so it most certainly affects end users. |
| 18:13.19 | aestil | tuller, there really isn't alot of feature creep, i know the talent stuff was something he was talkinga bout befor ehe pushed rock to trunk |
| 18:13.24 | CIA-12 | 03cncfanatics * r51292 10FlexBar2/ (Attributes/Attributes.lua Button/Slashcommands.lua): |
| 18:13.24 | CIA-12 | FlexBar2: |
| 18:13.25 | CIA-12 | the button parameter is no longer required for the hide, show, lock & unlock commands, it defaults to all buttons |
| 18:13.35 | Nandini | can RockComm send them my build? (or any addon, for that matter) |
| 18:13.38 | Marli | What do you mean what happens |
| 18:14.03 | cncfanatics | Nandini, it won't |
| 18:14.07 | Nandini | you used to be able to whisper same-faction opponents in arena, i don't know if you can anymore |
| 18:14.12 | cncfanatics | Nandini, RockComm will refuse to send ur spec in arena |
| 18:14.13 | aestil | nymbia: i would make that arguement for dongle and and ace3, i think rock is primairly a move away from AceOO and restructuring of some other things which make more sense to ckk, and are more efficient. |
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| 18:14.53 | Nandini | aestil: that comment right there disqualifies you from thinking of youself as "the average user" :P you know way too much! |
| 18:15.05 | aestil | i can't write any lua? |
| 18:15.18 | aestil | reading the rock wiki doesn't disqualify me as an average user. |
| 18:15.24 | Tuller | average user == guy who uses no addons |
| 18:15.39 | aestil | average addon user = guy who can't write mods. |
| 18:15.41 | do3mca | there is no SUCH average user. |
| 18:16.12 | Tuller | slightly above average == one who uses packages |
| 18:16.18 | aestil | i'm going to get my morning coffee. |
| 18:16.27 | dylanm | Mmm good idea |
| 18:16.33 | dylanm | Need to make a pot before I shut down |
| 18:16.42 | aestil | tuller, my argument isn't about average WoW users, my argument is about average addon users, which is the only relevant user to this discussion IMO. |
| 18:16.45 | aestil | brb. |
| 18:18.07 | Paene | Anyone see anything wrong in these 2 pieces of code? There's apparently something wrong in both |
| 18:18.08 | Paene | http://ace.pastey.net/75006 |
| 18:18.55 | Xelopheris | what error are you getting paene? |
| 18:19.04 | dylanm | Paene: Not sure why you're numbering WaterRanks manually. |
| 18:19.24 | Paene | not an error, mod just isn't loading |
| 18:19.39 | dylanm | Well that's different. |
| 18:20.01 | Paene | Mod only works when both functions are removed |
| 18:20.16 | Paene | so I'm assuming a syntax error somewhere |
| 18:20.18 | Paene | but I don't see it |
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| 18:21.11 | Nandini | a syntax error should throw an error in-game that tells you what line it's on |
| 18:21.56 | harldephin | dylanm: thanks. |
| 18:22.36 | Grum | Paene: find the addon: 'Swatter' |
| 18:22.42 | Grum | so you can actually see what is causing an error |
| 18:22.47 | Grum | without error we cant help :( |
| 18:23.23 | mikma | Swatter is in norgs svn |
| 18:23.50 | Paene | found it |
| 18:23.56 | Paene | false. should be false, |
| 18:23.59 | Paene | lol |
| 18:24.59 | Paene | also noticed that for some reason I had "Display Lua Errors" unchecked in the interface options |
| 18:25.15 | Tuller | aestil: The talent sending stuff is stuck in a core library and enabled by default to rely on users not knowing about it. Bloat is not my major concern here. |
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| 18:27.07 | Tuller | aestil: I know perfectly well that not doing that can make the thing less useful, but it just feels dirty to me :P |
| 18:27.24 | mikma | Tuller: lets start a fanboi war. Scrooge. |
| 18:27.51 | Tuller | I want scrooge renamed to troll :P |
| 18:27.56 | CIA-12 | 03sylvanaar * r51293 10EnhancedLFG/ (EnhancedLFG.toc libs/ libs/includes.xml): EnhancedLFG: Fixes for running fully embedded. |
| 18:28.17 | Nandini | Tuller, I agree that the functionality is useful, but misplaced. (I also think it is incomplete.) |
| 18:28.25 | Shadowed | You know |
| 18:28.29 | Tuller | but example: I'd have no problem downloading EnhancedLFG to gain that functionality :) |
| 18:28.34 | Shadowed | Rock is GRPL or whatever it's called |
| 18:28.36 | mikma | Tuller: README.TXT! go and rename it to troll :D |
| 18:28.43 | Shadowed | branch it, remove the pings and talent stuff |
| 18:28.51 | Shadowed | have them run it as standalone problem solved |
| 18:29.10 | Tuller | hrm, also true |
| 18:29.20 | Nandini | Yes, I thought we should have frameworks called Paper and Scissors as Rock alternatives. |
| 18:29.24 | Tuller | but it would still be used by most users :) |
| 18:29.42 | Shadowed | not much you can do about that except educate them to get the standalone |
| 18:29.54 | Nandini | yay a popularity contest! |
| 18:30.08 | Nandini | and here i am without my cheerleading uniform :( |
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| 18:30.24 | Crysli | Evening |
| 18:30.43 | Nandini | i really want someone to make that InfoCenter addon or whatever it was called |
| 18:30.59 | sylvanaar | i did, noone would work with me |
| 18:31.03 | Shadowed | Nandini, it would get info from all the checks from CTRA/Rock/ect? |
| 18:31.42 | Nandini | i was thinking to something limited to the data already presented by the armory, such as talent builds, trade skills, etc. |
| 18:31.59 | Shadowed | you mean |
| 18:32.03 | Shadowed | basically all the info =p |
| 18:32.19 | CIA-12 | 03kameril * r51294 10VisualThemes/ (17 files in 4 dirs): |
| 18:32.19 | CIA-12 | VisualThemes: |
| 18:32.19 | CIA-12 | -Added support for Skillet. |
| 18:32.19 | CIA-12 | -No longer uses AceLocale. |
| 18:32.37 | sylvanaar | i made it a year ago - its purpose was to run the info-responder portions of addons, so the user didnt have to install the full addon. |
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| 18:32.49 | Nandini | armory doesn't present my entire inventory (or specific subsets) to other players, tho, unlike some raid checks |
| 18:33.22 | Nandini | but that could be an option too! imagine i was looking for a feral druid but i wanted to make sure he had his tanking gear on him |
| 18:33.25 | liquiem | stasi! |
| 18:33.51 | sylvanaar | its still really handy, because it lets you register for and recieve events from other clients |
| 18:34.06 | Nandini | if that feral druid were generous enough to configure the infocenter to share that, i wouldn't have to bother him |
| 18:34.40 | durcyn | or you could just, you know, ask him |
| 18:34.58 | Nandini | well, that's what i would tend to do anyway, i prefer being asked myself and would probably turn the option off for me ;) |
| 18:35.06 | sylvanaar | yep, you can, same as ready checks, item check, durability, etc |
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| 18:35.16 | sylvanaar | hey, how is your durability? |
| 18:35.17 | sag_ich_nicht | ckknight |
| 18:35.18 | Nandini | who cares if i find a feral druid with tanking gear in his bags if he doesn't have personality! |
| 18:35.19 | sag_ich_nicht | you there? |
| 18:35.22 | sylvanaar | are your ready? |
| 18:35.25 | sag_ich_nicht | also |
| 18:35.26 | sag_ich_nicht | tuller |
| 18:35.27 | DracoDan | ah, made a complete guess that this channel would exist |
| 18:35.31 | sag_ich_nicht | what was that about libstub earlier? |
| 18:35.33 | sylvanaar | do you have enough reagents? |
| 18:35.55 | DracoDan | can someone help me with an aceupdater problem? |
| 18:36.01 | Tuller | sag_ich_nicht: there's a bit of a bug in some of the libstub converted libraries. LibSharedMedia, I think LibDogTag, and uhh LibGratuity? |
| 18:36.06 | Nandini | ~asktoask |
| 18:36.06 | purl | This is IRC. Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question and if someone's around, they'll be glad to help. |
| 18:36.07 | [dRaCo] | DracoDan: #wau |
| 18:36.22 | DracoDan | heh |
| 18:36.22 | Tuller | sag_ich_nicht: essentially just change the embedded libstub code to the 1.0 tag |
| 18:36.42 | DracoDan | yeah, i know thats the general rule, but sometimes there are seperate support channels |
| 18:36.43 | sag_ich_nicht | oic |
| 18:36.59 | Tuller | sag_ich_nicht: but it can break ace addons |
| 18:37.02 | DracoDan | as purl pointed out (thanks) |
| 18:37.23 | sag_ich_nicht | Tuller: care to check if parser is affected too? :X |
| 18:38.04 | Tuller | sag_ich_nicht: it should just be things that ck converted to use libstub, but not librock |
| 18:38.32 | sag_ich_nicht | kk :X |
| 18:38.33 | sag_ich_nicht | damn |
| 18:38.45 | sag_ich_nicht | means i'll have to debug threat-1.0 at some point further |
| 18:38.47 | sag_ich_nicht | fukkin bug |
| 18:38.48 | sag_ich_nicht | >< |
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| 18:39.18 | Nandini | can i teach purl something new? |
| 18:40.10 | MoonWitch | purl teaching you is fun |
| 18:40.10 | purl | MoonWitch: okay |
| 18:40.12 | hyperChipmunk | purl, Nandini is a retard |
| 18:40.13 | purl | hyperChipmunk: okay |
| 18:40.19 | hyperChipmunk | ~nandini |
| 18:40.19 | purl | nandini is probably a retard |
| 18:40.25 | hyperChipmunk | ~botsnack |
| 18:40.25 | purl | hyperChipmunk: thanks |
| 18:40.46 | Pkekyo | what kind of specc is combat swords? |
| 18:41.05 | Kemayo | purl, get me a sandwitch |
| 18:41.05 | purl | What? Get it yourself. |
| 18:41.06 | sag_ich_nicht | a rogue spec. |
| 18:41.17 | sag_ich_nicht | purl, sudo get me a sandwitch |
| 18:41.17 | purl | Okay! |
| 18:41.27 | hyperChipmunk | hehe |
| 18:41.35 | [dRaCo] | Pkekyo: 19/42/0 or something like that |
| 18:41.38 | hyperChipmunk | there's no t in sandwich |
| 18:41.48 | sag_ich_nicht | i know. |
| 18:41.51 | sag_ich_nicht | i want a sand witch |
| 18:41.57 | sag_ich_nicht | not a sandwich |
| 18:41.57 | sag_ich_nicht | fool |
| 18:41.58 | sag_ich_nicht | :X |
| 18:42.02 | hyperChipmunk | o i c |
| 18:42.17 | sag_ich_nicht | brb |
| 18:42.22 | Marli | theres no h in wipe |
| 18:42.25 | Nandini | purl, usrealmip is you can find the IP address of all U.S. realms and their datacenters at http://www.wowwiki.com/US_Realm_List_By_Datacenter |
| 18:42.25 | purl | okay, Nandini |
| 18:42.27 | Marli | but people still say whipe |
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| 18:43.32 | lolinternet | ... |
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| 18:45.37 | backbone87 | what is "nil or 0" returning? |
| 18:45.39 | Nandini | purl, nandini is not a retard (he's just special) |
| 18:45.39 | purl | ...but nandini is already something else... |
| 18:45.42 | Xinhuan | 0 |
| 18:46.03 | Nandini | purl, nandini is really not a retard (he's just special) |
| 18:46.03 | purl | ...but nandini is already something else... |
| 18:46.06 | Nandini | grr |
| 18:46.23 | nymbia | ~nandini |
| 18:46.24 | purl | nandini is probably a retard |
| 18:46.37 | nymbia | purl no, nandini is really not a retard (he's just special) |
| 18:46.38 | purl | okay, nymbia |
| 18:46.41 | Nandini | yes, i suppose you're right |
| 18:47.18 | CIA-12 | 03rabbit 07WIP * r51295 10Cartographer_Routes/Cartographer_Routes/ (Cartographer_Routes.toc Core.lua): Cartographer_Routes: Don't depend on Cartographer_Notes, not everyone extracts the modules as addons. |
| 18:52.31 | Kemayo | ~emulate Nandini |
| 18:52.38 | Kemayo | Aw. |
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| 18:53.41 | Kemayo | vhaarr: Is that the ACO waypoint thing? |
| 18:54.32 | vhaarr | I don't know what ACO is |
| 18:54.41 | Kemayo | Ant Colony Optimization. |
| 18:54.45 | Xinhuan | :) |
| 18:54.50 | vhaarr | ah |
| 18:54.55 | vhaarr | it's grums thingy |
| 18:55.02 | Kemayo | Okay, it is then. |
| 18:55.20 | Xinhuan | actually its Grum and my thing now ;p |
| 18:55.30 | vhaarr | I haven't read the code yet, I just installed it to help level my mining skill |
| 18:55.30 | Xinhuan | if you check the TOC for authors name |
| 18:55.37 | winkiller | damn, how can I move bigwigs bars? |
| 18:55.51 | vhaarr | winkiller: have you tried reading the options? |
| 18:55.56 | winkiller | argh, there |
| 18:55.59 | vhaarr | nub |
| 18:56.09 | Megalon | pesky ant pheromone algorythms :< |
| 18:56.14 | winkiller | well it kinda bugged when I tested it this afternoon and the menu was - empty |
| 18:56.20 | Xinhuan | tsk tsk |
| 18:57.48 | Xinhuan | did you find any bugs vhaarr? |
| 18:57.53 | Xinhuan | or stuff to suggest as of now |
| 18:58.05 | vhaarr | Xinhuan: well, the options stuff is really, really horrible |
| 18:58.08 | vhaarr | but I blame rock for that |
| 18:58.14 | winkiller | and sorry, normally I don't ask such stupid questions, but just at gruul I couldn't see anything beacuase of the bars |
| 18:58.22 | Xinhuan | lol |
| 18:58.27 | Xinhuan | any suggestions to make it better? |
| 18:58.33 | |Stan| | "the bars" |
| 18:58.37 | |Stan| | cool stuff winkiller |
| 18:58.48 | Xinhuan | also the colorpicker when used inside a "options group" is horribly broken |
| 18:58.53 | Xinhuan | can blame ckk for that |
| 18:58.54 | vhaarr | Xinhuan: first of all the color ... |
| 18:58.56 | vhaarr | right |
| 18:59.07 | vhaarr | that's really annoying, the black lines look UGLY |
| 18:59.08 | winkiller | |Stan|: ? |
| 18:59.21 | Xinhuan | maybe change the default from black to some other color |
| 18:59.23 | Xinhuan | ? |
| 18:59.31 | vhaarr | details |
| 18:59.45 | Xinhuan | no i mean should we change that default? |
| 18:59.52 | the-golem | ckknight: idk if this is a bug or whatever, but occasionally the text on my petbar will up and vanish |
| 18:59.58 | winkiller | btw, the "new" rightclick menu from fubar for example - is that a newer, less ugly rockconfig? or is it something else again? |
| 19:00.00 | the-golem | seems to be random :-( |
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| 19:00.29 | vhaarr | Xinhuan: the whole rock config thing here is just silly, okay first of all, the routes root settings, Add Route |
| 19:00.38 | vhaarr | Xinhuan: rename them to just "Data" and "Name" |
| 19:00.44 | vhaarr | Xinhuan: add a "Create route" button |
| 19:01.03 | vhaarr | I don't know if that's even possible |
| 19:01.31 | Xinhuan | hmm |
| 19:01.40 | Xinhuan | the button is probably not doable lol! |
| 19:02.17 | Xinhuan | actually maybe it can |
| 19:02.19 | vhaarr | and in the route config, "TSP" is meaningless |
| 19:02.48 | vhaarr | "Optimize route" -> "Now"/"In the background" |
| 19:03.03 | vhaarr | what the hell is TSP |
| 19:03.11 | Xinhuan | Travelling Salesmen Problem ;p |
| 19:03.12 | Kemayo | Travelling Salesman Problem. |
| 19:03.12 | vhaarr | hint: whatever the answer is, nobody cares |
| 19:03.15 | Xinhuan | hehe |
| 19:03.17 | rob` | O_o |
| 19:03.18 | Xinhuan | ok, go on |
| 19:03.52 | vhaarr | remove the 3 reset options and just add one "Reset to defaults" button in the "Line settings" group |
| 19:04.06 | vhaarr | and rename the delete button to just "Delete" |
| 19:04.12 | vhaarr | people already selected the route in the sidebar |
| 19:04.16 | Kemayo | Many PhDs care! |
| 19:04.18 | vhaarr | doesn't have to be repeated 30 times |
| 19:04.21 | vhaarr | Kemayo: they can fuck a duck |
| 19:04.30 | Fisker- | hey don't make me come up there |
| 19:04.35 | Xinhuan | i giggled :) |
| 19:04.35 | Kemayo | You can find anything on the internet. |
| 19:04.43 | vhaarr | haha |
| 19:05.01 | the-golem | er |
| 19:05.17 | the-golem | ckknight: correction, pet "unitframe" |
| 19:05.52 | CIA-12 | 03ulic * r51296 10LittleWigs/ (4 files in 2 dirs): LittleWigs: cleanups |
| 19:05.55 | Fisker- | omg i'm going to restart my computer |
| 19:05.56 | Fisker- | omg |
| 19:06.03 | MoonWitch | poor fishbot2 |
| 19:06.07 | MoonWitch | fisker |
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| 19:06.15 | MoonWitch | damn this tab completion |
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| 19:06.30 | Fisker- | no u |
| 19:07.14 | Xinhuan | o_O i checked out the latest Routes, restarted wow and now cartographer failed to load O_O |
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| 19:07.30 | Fisker- | i'm going to restart my computer |
| 19:07.32 | Fisker- | and you can't stop me |
| 19:07.35 | vhaarr | Xinhuan: that could be my fault, I didn't test my commit |
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| 19:07.57 | vhaarr | so nice of you to test it for me |
| 19:08.09 | Xinhuan | routes shouldn't affect cartographer o_O |
| 19:08.11 | Xinhuan | that's the thing |
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| 19:11.19 | cncfanatics | shldnt the trac link on the wowace main page be changed to fish ? |
| 19:11.37 | vhaarr | Xinhuan: also, routes should add a menu item to the right-click menu for notes, like "Ignore in routes" |
| 19:11.55 | vhaarr | Xinhuan: and when clicked, if that node is part of a route, recalculate that route |
| 19:12.24 | vhaarr | (should obviously be a checkbox) |
| 19:12.35 | Xinhuan | ok not sure what you changed, but you broke something |
| 19:12.57 | vhaarr | if I broke something, Rock is bugged |
| 19:13.02 | vhaarr | what I did works fine in Ace2 modules |
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| 19:14.49 | Xinhuan | i think the issue was that Routes loaded before Notes |
| 19:14.54 | Xinhuan | not sure |
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| 19:16.37 | vhaarr | nah that can't be the problem |
| 19:16.58 | CIA-12 | 03kameril * r51297 10VisualThemes/ (4 files in 4 dirs): |
| 19:16.58 | CIA-12 | VisualThemes: |
| 19:16.58 | CIA-12 | -Added support for TBag. |
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| 19:17.36 | aestil | tuller, does it make you feel hard and dirty? |
| 19:18.08 | Xinhuan | hmmm, ok here is what is happening |
| 19:18.17 | Xinhuan | if i disable Routes, everything loads fine |
| 19:18.21 | Tuller | aestil: I just feel it should be an opt in system of some sort :) |
| 19:18.29 | Xinhuan | if i enable routes, i log in and wow is stuck at 2 FPS |
| 19:18.41 | Xinhuan | with no Rock addon loaded |
| 19:18.42 | Tuller | aestil: though I know the whole history with the LFG system a guy made a long time ago, and how it really did not work because of it |
| 19:18.46 | aestil | Tuller: *nods* thats where, as a user, I don't care, and you have some ethical thing, as a dev. |
| 19:18.48 | Xinhuan | any suggestions? |
| 19:19.01 | Xinhuan | as to why that might happen |
| 19:19.07 | Hjalte | Xinhuan, stop crying and play with your 2 fps! |
| 19:19.21 | aestil | combining this rockcomm with the LFGEnchanced, there is compelling reason for everyone to have it. |
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| 19:21.30 | Fisker- | Xinhuan |
| 19:21.35 | Fisker- | what does the scouter say about my powerlevel? |
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| 19:25.37 | Xinhuan | hmm seems to be something to do with the embedding |
| 19:25.49 | Xinhuan | if i rename the Libs folder to something else, it works |
| 19:33.44 | Hjalte | sylvanaar, EnhancedLFG is awesome. Now everyone just has to use something rock and NOT turn off talent sharing! |
| 19:34.17 | sylvanaar | Hjalte yep |
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| 19:37.49 | Xinhuan | vhaarr: i figured it out, it was to do with r51287 (scroll up to see what that is) |
| 19:38.23 | vhaarr | Xinhuan: okay, I don't have that fix in my repo |
| 19:38.40 | Xinhuan | your change was fine |
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| 19:40.11 | haste | Fisker-: sorry, he crushed the scanner after seeing mine |
| 19:40.30 | Awaa | *qq* 1% wipe on Vashj |
| 19:40.40 | elusif | forgot to pay my bill and no more wow until tuesday |
| 19:40.51 | elusif | i am teh sick debuff :( |
| 19:41.42 | mort | wiping on kael'thas while trying to attune several new raib members sucks... |
| 19:41.55 | Dezzimal | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:41.57 | Xinhuan | yep |
| 19:42.31 | elusif | what's bish? |
| 19:42.47 | Dezzimal | bish don't talk back to me |
| 19:42.54 | elusif | lawl |
| 19:43.00 | Xelopheris | win |
| 19:43.03 | elusif | ya |
| 19:43.17 | elusif | bish show us your trap |
| 19:43.49 | elusif | no dk for gnomes apparently :( |
| 19:44.27 | Xinhuan | [10/8 03:08:52] <@vhaarr> Xinhuan: also, routes should add a menu item to the right-click menu for notes, like "Ignore in routes" |
| 19:44.27 | Xinhuan | [10/8 03:09:10] <@vhaarr> Xinhuan: and when clicked, if that node is part of a route, recalculate that route |
| 19:44.30 | Xinhuan | oops |
| 19:44.33 | Xinhuan | wrong window! |
| 19:45.00 | elusif | woot! |
| 19:45.14 | Xinhuan | WHAT no dk for gnomes?? |
| 19:45.31 | elusif | ya was readint the wotlk forums |
| 19:45.40 | Xinhuan | is this some blue post or what |
| 19:45.46 | elusif | define blue post |
| 19:45.51 | elusif | ahh |
| 19:45.54 | elusif | no not that i saw |
| 19:46.05 | Xinhuan | meaning is this from an official blizzard source |
| 19:46.15 | elusif | ya i got that :) |
| 19:46.34 | elusif | there is a petition for gnome dks |
| 19:46.42 | elusif | and people moaning about it |
| 19:46.56 | Ozguli | wth.. I'll start playing without my addons, performance over improved accessibility allows me to slay more effectively o.O |
| 19:47.08 | elusif | ea would be very handy is dk relies on alot of melee |
| 19:47.09 | Xinhuan | buy a new comp ;p |
| 19:47.20 | Ozguli | :\ |
| 19:47.23 | elusif | buy a mac |
| 19:47.29 | Ozguli | do you think I don't want to? |
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| 19:47.48 | Ozguli | a student can't buy new computers just like that *snaps his fingers* |
| 19:48.06 | elusif | build one cheaper |
| 19:48.26 | elusif | i'm being a hypocrite here but all the cool kids are doing it |
| 19:49.09 | the-golem | elusif: buy one piecemeal |
| 19:49.33 | the-golem | start with stuff you are less likely to upgrade, like optical drives, hard drives |
| 19:49.35 | the-golem | case |
| 19:49.51 | Xelopheris | http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i216/mjr45k/w504ba.jpg <<-- hrm, new tauren catform model? |
| 19:49.54 | the-golem | buy mobo, ram, and memory all at once |
| 19:50.01 | the-golem | er not elusif |
| 19:50.06 | the-golem | Ozguli :P |
| 19:50.07 | elusif | :P |
| 19:50.08 | Nandini | i'd say wait on the optical drive, blu-ray burner prices should come down a bit by christmas time :) |
| 19:50.23 | elusif | i just need an epix gfx card to run the video options at full whack |
| 19:50.36 | Xelopheris | you still need fast ram for that elusif |
| 19:50.48 | Ozguli | using a leasing laptop of my mom's company |
| 19:50.49 | elusif | hmm |
| 19:50.53 | Xelopheris | because your CPU will only run it's FSB at the speed of the slwoest component connected to it, and 99% of the time, it's the ram |
| 19:50.58 | elusif | i have whatever ram come in a 6 month old dell |
| 19:51.00 | Xinhuan | oh what? a riding crop doesn't increase the speed of the brewfest quest mounts :( |
| 19:51.18 | Nandini | i like that model Xelopheris, but the mouth is still gaping open, as usual |
| 19:51.24 | Xelopheris | yeah |
| 19:51.29 | Xelopheris | but at least I'm not a wyvern without wings :P |
| 19:51.33 | elusif | when you buy a ram for keeps does it work like a normal mount or do you whip it like the quest ram? |
| 19:51.44 | Xelopheris | works like a normal ram |
| 19:51.51 | Xelopheris | y'know, if your fucking brewfest quests work >< |
| 19:51.52 | elusif | k |
| 19:51.57 | elusif | lawl ya |
| 19:52.01 | elusif | you on eu realm? |
| 19:52.10 | Xelopheris | no, US |
| 19:52.17 | elusif | i thought it was just eu realms |
| 19:52.21 | Xelopheris | apple bushels don't work for any character on my account properly |
| 19:52.38 | elusif | ram's are my favourite mount tbh |
| 19:52.39 | Nandini | the horns should probably be in front of the ears tho, for consistency with tauren anatomy |
| 19:52.42 | Ozguli | ravenholdt brewfest quests work |
| 19:52.46 | Ozguli | eu |
| 19:52.47 | the-golem | that catform is badass |
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| 19:52.49 | elusif | sux alot i'm too low level to get a brewfest one |
| 19:52.50 | krunk-_ | howdy |
| 19:52.59 | elusif | the quests are working on eu outland do |
| 19:53.14 | elusif | too even |
| 19:53.38 | krunk-_ | I don't suppose that there's a nice warlock management replacement/alternative to necrosis? (in general, the ace mods seem a bit lacking |
| 19:53.46 | Trae | ckknight, Has anyone mapped all the zones and quests and made them available to download? |
| 19:53.54 | the-golem | whats wrong with necrosis? |
| 19:53.58 | elusif | that would be nice trae |
| 19:54.10 | Trae | elusif, I'm in the process of doing it for Horde |
| 19:54.14 | Xelopheris | necrosis is a processor hog |
| 19:54.18 | elusif | you could try beql and lightheaded |
| 19:54.23 | Trae | I had EPL and WPL and Hellfire before I "quit" wow |
| 19:54.28 | krunk-_ | Xelopheris: too true |
| 19:54.39 | Trae | elusif, what are those? |
| 19:54.40 | elusif | a searchable database of npcs would complement cart very nicely |
| 19:54.41 | Xelopheris | Still, it's worth it :P |
| 19:54.45 | elusif | addons for questing |
| 19:54.53 | Xelopheris | elusif: would you like to load for an hour? |
| 19:54.55 | elusif | tell you where to go etc *in game |
| 19:55.09 | elusif | naw |
| 19:55.11 | krunk-_ | Trae: I have a guide that maps out all until release of bc which covers you pretty damned good up to end game. It also tells the order to run them in so you stack the maximum number of quests |
| 19:55.12 | Trae | elusif, hmm yeah I just want to have pinpoints for quest places all over the zone. |
| 19:55.19 | elusif | yah |
| 19:55.26 | elusif | beql and lightheaded ftw |
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| 19:55.58 | elusif | Xelopheris are you saying a searchable npc database would mean loading expotentially? |
| 19:56.04 | elusif | metamap did it... |
| 19:56.24 | Xelopheris | An NPC/quest database would be huge, even as LoD |
| 19:56.31 | elusif | lod |
| 19:56.33 | elusif | ? |
| 19:56.42 | elusif | load on..? |
| 19:56.52 | Megalon | demand |
| 19:56.58 | elusif | but it worked in metamap |
| 19:57.09 | elusif | it would load in every zone |
| 19:57.23 | Trae | elusif, I don't see lightheaded on wowace |
| 19:57.25 | the-golem | Xelopheris: make it segmented, like AtlasLoot |
| 19:57.27 | elusif | it's not there |
| 19:57.32 | elusif | had the same provlem |
| 19:57.37 | the-golem | separate perzone |
| 19:57.41 | Xelopheris | Golem: atlasloot has nowhere near the same amouint of data |
| 19:57.42 | elusif | google is your friend trae |
| 19:57.46 | the-golem | true |
| 19:57.48 | Trae | elusif, heh |
| 19:57.50 | the-golem | but it'd help |
| 19:57.53 | elusif | atlas loot has an ugly ui |
| 19:57.56 | krunk-_ | omg |
| 19:58.00 | krunk-_ | lightheaded looks incredible |
| 19:58.04 | elusif | :D |
| 19:58.10 | dodga | Kael'Thas down! |
| 19:58.11 | elusif | atlas loot is only of use to me with atlas |
| 19:58.12 | dodga | wheehee |
| 19:58.15 | krunk-_ | makes me actually think I might quest again |
| 19:58.30 | elusif | much easier to negotiate through instance drops using atlas than atlas loot |
| 19:58.38 | elusif | ya krunk- |
| 19:59.02 | krunk-_ | elusif: looks like it won't work with an ace quest mod I use though |
| 19:59.13 | elusif | which is better? |
| 19:59.26 | Xelopheris | I wish you could navigate atlasloot in the same way you can navigate with assessment |
| 19:59.31 | elusif | i don't need any other questing mod with lightheaded and beql |
| 19:59.32 | krunk-_ | well, this for functionality. nQuestLog for looks ;) |
| 19:59.48 | elusif | never tried assessment |
| 19:59.59 | elusif | functionality > frills |
| 20:00.05 | do3mca | ive seen some screenie where small little buff icons were right beside the DHUD bars, anyone got an idea how that is achieved= |
| 20:00.16 | krunk-_ | oh wait, I could run it with detached frame |
| 20:00.34 | elusif | over my head :) |
| 20:01.07 | Trae | elusif, lol that's kinda cool |
| 20:01.12 | krunk-_ | elusif: lol, it's a option for lightheaded |
| 20:01.12 | elusif | ya |
| 20:01.17 | elusif | cool |
| 20:01.34 | elusif | sometimes the info is bogey but rarely |
| 20:01.40 | elusif | no more alt tab bs :) |
| 20:01.44 | krunk-_ | alright, necrosis it is |
| 20:01.58 | krunk-_ | I should just write a new warlock addon. all the great lock modders aren't moding any more |
| 20:02.11 | elusif | i haven't gotten any rogue addons yet |
| 20:02.36 | elusif | what language are the addons in? |
| 20:02.42 | sag_ich_nicht | lua. |
| 20:02.44 | sag_ich_nicht | ~lua |
| 20:02.45 | purl | well, lua is a powerful light-weight programming language designed for extending applications. It is often used as a configuration language. See http://www.lua.org/. |
| 20:02.46 | krunk-_ | elusif: rogue addons are necessary |
| 20:02.49 | Trae | wish you could move the damned quest log though |
| 20:02.55 | sag_ich_nicht | you can, lol |
| 20:03.07 | elusif | ya i'll get ti them krunk-_ |
| 20:03.08 | sag_ich_nicht | fluidframes ftw |
| 20:03.10 | elusif | sag_ich_nicht ty |
| 20:03.26 | elusif | i wish you could move the character info screen |
| 20:03.31 | sag_ich_nicht | you can |
| 20:03.32 | sag_ich_nicht | lol |
| 20:03.33 | elusif | infact all windows should be mobile |
| 20:03.35 | elusif | with a mod? |
| 20:03.38 | sag_ich_nicht | yeah |
| 20:03.40 | sag_ich_nicht | fluidframes. |
| 20:03.42 | elusif | name and shame it please |
| 20:03.44 | elusif | ty :) |
| 20:04.01 | Fisker- | sag_ich_nicht |
| 20:04.03 | sag_ich_nicht | what |
| 20:04.06 | Fisker- | what does the scouter say about my powerlevel? |
| 20:04.13 | sag_ich_nicht | it's not over 9000 |
| 20:04.14 | sag_ich_nicht | :( |
| 20:04.26 | sag_ich_nicht | ~fail Fisker- |
| 20:04.26 | purl | Fisker-: Fail. |
| 20:05.41 | krunk-_ | so, general poll: beql or nQuestLog from those that may have tried both |
| 20:05.50 | Nandini | Xinhuan: I will be amused when people die from following routes that direct them to fly over enemy bases :) |
| 20:06.02 | Xinhuan | rofl |
| 20:06.17 | elusif | do you guys ever have problems when you have so many things you can cast and you're fingers can only reach so far along the numberline quickly? |
| 20:06.19 | Xinhuan | that shouldn't actually happen because there are no nodes in bases |
| 20:06.35 | Nandini | no, but the next node on the path might be on the other side of an enemy base |
| 20:06.43 | elusif | 4 is my optimum amount of keys i can cast quickly |
| 20:06.53 | Xinhuan | that's quite unlikely too, because there arelikely to be nodes all around the base itself ;p |
| 20:07.11 | sag_ich_nicht | [22:06] <elusif> do you guys ever have problems when you have so many things you can cast and you're fingers can only reach so far along the numberline quickly? <--no, i only need button 1-6 and ctrl+1-6 |
| 20:07.13 | Xelopheris | Having seven mouse buttons helps with keybinds greatly |
| 20:07.14 | elusif | Trae: btw noteshare lets you share the cart databases with other people |
| 20:07.16 | sag_ich_nicht | anything else i click |
| 20:07.33 | Xinhuan | anyway, i'm going to add a bit of code to the optimization route thing |
| 20:07.44 | elusif | does ctrl bring up the second action bar? |
| 20:07.46 | Xinhuan | Grum's mainly doing the UI part, i'm mainly doing the algorithm part |
| 20:07.53 | Nandini | Xinhuan: i'm working out an algortih that could give you observation centroids to visit, rather than nodes |
| 20:07.56 | elusif | cya |
| 20:08.08 | Xinhuan | care to explain this algorithm? |
| 20:08.30 | Xinhuan | i have something in mind, but its not very pretty or efficient |
| 20:08.31 | Nandini | well, for each node you have to first count how many other nodes are within double the tracking radius |
| 20:08.36 | sag_ich_nicht | i've had it with this motherfucking taint in this motherfucking UI |
| 20:08.41 | Xinhuan | why double? |
| 20:08.43 | Nandini | this could be approximated by using a square within that circle and just comparing points |
| 20:08.58 | CIA-12 | 03sylvanaar * r51299 10EnhancedLFG/EnhancedLFG.toc: EnhancedLFG: TOC Metadata |
| 20:08.58 | sag_ich_nicht | i will track each and every tainting issue in my UI down next week |
| 20:09.05 | sag_ich_nicht | or at least i'll try >< |
| 20:09.07 | elusif | sag - does ctrl bring up the second action bar or something? |
| 20:09.25 | sag_ich_nicht | elusif: not using the standard bars |
| 20:09.33 | sag_ich_nicht | but yeah |
| 20:09.37 | Nandini | because it gives you an idea of the observational density around the node. if you stood halfway between two nodes at max range, you could observe both |
| 20:09.51 | elusif | i can't log in again until tuesday but let me ask you more about it then k? |
| 20:09.55 | Xinhuan | go on |
| 20:09.58 | sag_ich_nicht | it normaly invokes the bar above the normal action bar, iirc |
| 20:10.11 | sag_ich_nicht | something like that |
| 20:10.22 | elusif | does the bar become visible/ |
| 20:10.23 | elusif | ? |
| 20:10.25 | sag_ich_nicht | you can change your keybinding in the keybinding dialog anyway :X |
| 20:10.28 | sag_ich_nicht | what |
| 20:10.37 | sag_ich_nicht | look |
| 20:10.40 | sag_ich_nicht | go to the escape menu |
| 20:10.41 | sag_ich_nicht | interface |
| 20:10.42 | elusif | yah |
| 20:10.43 | elusif | i know |
| 20:10.44 | sag_ich_nicht | advanced |
| 20:10.46 | sag_ich_nicht | and enabled them there |
| 20:10.48 | Nandini | anyways instead of computing distances between nodes for this point, you would just compare coordinates to see how many nodes would be in a square inside that circle (x +/- 2(sqrt)r) |
| 20:10.53 | elusif | but my bindings are pretty basic |
| 20:11.09 | elusif | don't need to bring up the second action bar if i make it visible |
| 20:11.22 | elusif | what's the most popular ui mod? |
| 20:11.24 | LaGGy | if you use bartender, you can set your any bar to change on holding down any other key...so i have my Bar1 change to Bar6 when i hold down control |
| 20:11.31 | elusif | cosmos or fubar or ct or something? |
| 20:11.32 | Nandini | rank the nodes by density, then for each node, find its nearest observable node with the highest density |
| 20:11.35 | sag_ich_nicht | elusif: there is not a "single" most popular UI mod |
| 20:11.43 | sag_ich_nicht | ct and cosmos are UI compilations |
| 20:11.49 | the-golem | *koff* cosmos ewww |
| 20:11.50 | sag_ich_nicht | fubar is just a bar where you can put things onto. |
| 20:11.58 | sag_ich_nicht | ~lart the-golem |
| 20:11.58 | purl | does a little 'renice 20 -u the-golem' |
| 20:12.01 | elusif | laggy downloading |
| 20:12.08 | Nandini | find the point halfway between them and that becomes your first centroid node. remove all gathering nodes that fall within its observation radius and start over |
| 20:12.12 | Nandini | it's not very efficent yet |
| 20:12.13 | the-golem | lol |
| 20:12.16 | sag_ich_nicht | shut your mouth or i'll wash it out with soap, the-golem |
| 20:12.24 | elusif | lol |
| 20:12.31 | the-golem | yeah |
| 20:12.56 | Nandini | eventually you will end up with a list of centroids to visit, and you do the TSP on them |
| 20:13.08 | sag_ich_nicht | cosmos has improved a lot since the last time you probably look at it or it's code(if you ever looked at the code and aren't just another moron flamer) |
| 20:13.10 | the-golem | cuz i obey random people on the innernets ^^ |
| 20:13.19 | sag_ich_nicht | *looked |
| 20:13.32 | Xinhuan | well that is a "greedy approach" |
| 20:13.40 | sag_ich_nicht | greedy is good. |
| 20:13.41 | sag_ich_nicht | :X |
| 20:13.44 | the-golem | probably |
| 20:13.47 | Xinhuan | and doesn't really come out with a better solution |
| 20:13.50 | the-golem | i havent used cosmos in a while |
| 20:14.04 | Xinhuan | say you have a cluster of nodes that 2 observation points will cover all of these points |
| 20:14.16 | Xinhuan | that greedy approach will find the node in the middle of that cluster |
| 20:14.19 | Xinhuan | and make a centroid |
| 20:14.24 | Xinhuan | and leave the outlying ones untouched |
| 20:14.30 | do3mca | LaGGy: thanks for that tip =) |
| 20:14.34 | Dustwhisper | Could someone give me a macro that resets Assessment data ? |
| 20:14.37 | the-golem | i've lurked in here long enuff for you to know i dont flame things |
| 20:14.49 | Nandini | yes i'm trying to find a better way to determine the density |
| 20:14.57 | elusif | ctrl+1, ,2, 3 etc is hard to press especially as i jump almost constantly |
| 20:15.30 | the-golem | elusif: agreed .. i have ctrl as my push-to-talk since i never use it for anything else ^^ |
| 20:15.32 | Xinhuan | my method involves sort of a "set theory" thing |
| 20:15.41 | sag_ich_nicht | your keyboards suck. |
| 20:15.42 | the-golem | except ctrl click to paperdoll stuff |
| 20:15.53 | Xinhuan | the first part of my algorithm will first obtain a list of nearby nodes within observation range |
| 20:15.57 | Xinhuan | for every node |
| 20:15.57 | Dustwhisper | WTB macro to reset Assessment data |
| 20:16.01 | Nandini | you could have one really dense observation point with 6 outliers around it and have to visit 7 points, rather than perhaps 3 less densely populated observation points |
| 20:16.04 | Xinhuan | so every node will have a "neighbour list" |
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| 20:16.16 | ThraeBot | sb: Arena points from a rating of 1813 is, 2v2: 544, 3v3: 622, 5v5: 778 |
| 20:16.31 | Xinhuan | i sort this neighbour list by density (so far identical to yours) |
| 20:16.44 | Xinhuan | and instead of starting with the highest density, i start with the lowest densities |
| 20:16.57 | Xinhuan | so any node that doesn't have a neighbouring point, is an observation point in itself |
| 20:16.59 | Xinhuan | eliminate these |
| 20:17.20 | Xinhuan | now any node with only 1 neighbour, merge the 2 points |
| 20:17.26 | Nandini | what if standing between two nodes with no neighboring points makes them both visible? |
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| 20:17.52 | Xinhuan | make it double the range then |
| 20:17.55 | Xinhuan | not an issue |
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| 20:18.01 | Xinhuan | now any node with only 1 neighbour, merge the 2 points |
| 20:18.09 | Xinhuan | and eliminate those and remove these nodes from all the remaining neighbour lists |
| 20:18.14 | Xinhuan | and resort the density |
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| 20:18.36 | Nandini | yes starting from the bottom up seems like it would be much faster |
| 20:19.06 | Xinhuan | starting from lower density seems liked it would catch outlying nodes easier |
| 20:19.29 | Nandini | the probability that any node will be populated also minimizes the extra travel needed to move from an observation point to an actual node |
| 20:19.48 | Xinhuan | but i don't want to make it "double the range" |
| 20:19.55 | Xinhuan | something like 1.5x will be enough |
| 20:20.08 | Nandini | if you make it sqrt(2) you can use coordinate comparison to find nodes |
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| 20:20.20 | Nandini | and not calculate distance |
| 20:20.33 | Nandini | you will miss some nodes on the outside, but the math is faster |
| 20:20.38 | Xinhuan | can't do that, every zone has a different zonewidth |
| 20:20.40 | orionshock | morning all |
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| 20:20.54 | Nandini | aren't they normalized to 100x100 on the map? |
| 20:20.56 | Xinhuan | the coordinates are in the initial [0-1] range |
| 20:21.06 | Nandini | 1x1 that is |
| 20:21.09 | Xinhuan | but the radius is a fixed 80 yards |
| 20:21.40 | Nandini | adjust the radius to the zone scale |
| 20:22.09 | Saroz | someone should make a good cooldown-bar mod |
| 20:22.15 | Xinhuan | the coordinate itself isn't even stored as 2 numbers |
| 20:22.20 | Xinhuan | its stored as a single number |
| 20:22.25 | orionshock | Saroz: there is a billion of em |
| 20:22.28 | orionshock | pick on :P |
| 20:22.53 | Saroz | exactly |
| 20:22.56 | Saroz | but not one good |
| 20:23.01 | Nandini | xinhuan is it some kind of serialized (x,y) at least? |
| 20:23.18 | Xinhuan | its some x*10000 + y*10000*10001+y |
| 20:23.22 | Xinhuan | something like that |
| 20:23.25 | orionshock | Saroz: define good, and i'll give you a another million answers :D |
| 20:23.51 | Nandini | i wonder why that format was chosen |
| 20:24.25 | Xinhuan | the database is hence a table of "magicIDs" |
| 20:24.26 | elusif | mod to change the wow chat and combat font? |
| 20:24.36 | elusif | comic sans ms ftw |
| 20:24.36 | elusif | ! |
| 20:24.37 | Xinhuan | such as herb[zone][9382749234] = "Terocone" |
| 20:24.43 | Xinhuan | where that number is the coordinate |
| 20:24.52 | Xinhuan | and you have to do something like |
| 20:24.57 | [dRaCo] | elusif: clearfont |
| 20:25.01 | elusif | ty |
| 20:25.08 | Nandini | oh i see because the coordinate is the index |
| 20:25.08 | Xinhuan | local x, y = (nodes[i] % 10001)/10000, floor(nodes[i] / 10001)/10000; |
| 20:25.30 | Xinhuan | where nodes[i] is the magiciD |
| 20:26.17 | Nandini | that seems so counterintuitive, but i'm sure theres some performance reason someone chose to do it that way |
| 20:26.32 | Xinhuan | well it has been that way in Notes for like a year++ |
| 20:26.35 | Xinhuan | so its not going to change |
| 20:27.41 | Nandini | i suppose that makes it easy to work on a "band" of data by creating a subset based on the x part |
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| 20:28.26 | Xinhuan | it doesn't matter that much how they are stored |
| 20:28.34 | Xinhuan | more so the quality of the result of the algo |
| 20:28.46 | Xinhuan | greedy approach won't give near-optimal ones |
| 20:28.59 | Paradox | Is there a way to remove that checkbox at the bottom of the swstats frame (that one you can uncheck to stop data collection)? |
| 20:29.17 | Paradox | if anyone knows |
| 20:29.48 | Nandini | i can maybe see why it's stored like that though. if you are deciding which notes to display on the minimap, you only have to check a range of them based on your current location and minimap scale and zone scale |
| 20:29.53 | Xinhuan | if you can't find the option to remove it, its probably not removable ;p |
| 20:30.21 | Shirik|Ecole | well, it's always removable |
| 20:30.25 | Xinhuan | Nandini, i doubt Notes is that clever |
| 20:30.27 | Shirik|Ecole | the amount of work required to do so may vary |
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| 20:31.50 | Ozguli | You actually speak so much here that I don't need to hide joins/quits/etc to follow conversation properly |
| 20:31.53 | Nandini | well, if you ever want to iterate over a horizontal band of notes, that makes it easy |
| 20:32.19 | Ozguli | Who's the clearfont 2 dev again? |
| 20:32.22 | Chompers | grrr stupid morogrim, murloc eat the aoe so fast |
| 20:32.32 | Ozguli | doesn't seem to work properly for me, only visible change is threat meter font >_> |
| 20:32.37 | Administrator | Question: I've heard mentions that Rock send talent data in-game? Why exactly..? |
| 20:32.42 | Xinhuan | Ozguli: a conversation isn't a conversation if there's more than 5 or so join/parts in betwee ;p |
| 20:33.12 | Nandini | it's not always this noisy in here, Ozguli |
| 20:33.25 | Ozguli | nah Xinhuan I've continued one on IRC 12 hours late, but that was a special scenario |
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| 20:33.36 | Ozguli | tried the same IRL but you can guess it didn't work out very well |
| 20:33.41 | Starinnia | its usually 15 minutes of silence, a few lines of text, then more silence |
| 20:33.46 | kenlyric_ | Administrator: ck needed a way to piss off users AND devs? |
| 20:34.04 | Ozguli | better than most quakenet channels anyway |
| 20:34.43 | Nandini | Ozguli: it was an attempt to make some commonly requested information more ubiquitous by including it in a library more likely to be installed, there are options to disable sending talent data now |
| 20:34.49 | Xinhuan | Nefarion: because ckknight strongly feels that it is necessary ingame, and many addons already do this, such as oRA, CTRaid(?) and Armory is available |
| 20:34.54 | Nandini | oops that was for Administrator |
| 20:35.04 | Xinhuan | so to include it in a base framework would seem logical |
| 20:35.07 | Starinnia | maybe he's got a toon on every server and he wants to know our talent specs for some future addon |
| 20:35.12 | Ozguli | indeed |
| 20:35.35 | Xinhuan | does that answer your question? |
| 20:35.47 | Nefarion | I suppose.. |
| 20:36.10 | Xinhuan | you can disable it in the Rock options |
| 20:36.18 | Xinhuan | so it isnt really that big an issue |
| 20:36.22 | Nandini | there is a difference in opinions as to whether it was the most appropriate place (or manner) to include it, but since it is configurable now, you can turn it off if you don't like it |
| 20:36.35 | kenlyric_ | oh god, my SECRET TALENTS |
| 20:36.43 | Nefarion | I still think it's pointless to include in the core framework and that any addons that need such features should simply agree on a universal query method for it. |
| 20:36.54 | Trae | http://occy.net/tmp/bustedcart.png |
| 20:37.09 | Dustwhisper | anyone know if on WWS it's possible to get it to show Dmg per add and weapon ? |
| 20:37.12 | Xinhuan | Nefarion: consider how many such addon "universal methods" there are in existance so far today? |
| 20:37.15 | Nefarion | No it's not a hue issue. Just a bit of curiosity. |
| 20:37.18 | Trae | I don't have "scrooge" in my addons dir |
| 20:37.27 | Xinhuan | you propose something that is ideal, but unachievable |
| 20:37.30 | Nandini | i think the point was instant ubiquity, so it's not really pointless |
| 20:38.06 | Nandini | whether it gets used is another matter, it is available if users leave it enabled |
| 20:38.28 | elusif | mod that will log all whispers? |
| 20:38.31 | Nefarion | True. Like I said it was just a bit of curiosity. Thanks guys.. |
| 20:38.38 | Xinhuan | ckknight strongly feels that it should be included because of the network effect |
| 20:38.55 | Xinhuan | which would be lessened if it were moved elsewhere |
| 20:39.10 | Trae | ckknight, you here? http://occy.net/tmp/bustedcart.png I don't have "Scrooge" in my addons dir |
| 20:39.11 | Nandini | true, but i feel like it's buliding SNMP into the TCP/IP stack :P |
| 20:39.11 | kenlyric_ | couldn't you say that about a lot of information? |
| 20:39.26 | kenlyric_ | why not threat? |
| 20:39.36 | kenlyric_ | why not incoming heals? |
| 20:39.58 | kenlyric_ | in fact, why not threat' |
| 20:39.58 | Nandini | i don't think more debate at this point will change anything |
| 20:40.00 | kenlyric_ | ? |
| 20:40.01 | Xinhuan | Trae: check if an addon called !Scrooge is around ;p |
| 20:40.02 | orionshock | Trae: i've looked over that code that he uses, some of it's generic to where if anything taints some of the basic bliz api's then it thows it |
| 20:40.08 | Trae | Xinhuan, oh ok |
| 20:40.17 | Xinhuan | as opposed to "Scrooge" |
| 20:40.24 | kenlyric_ | threat being universal is actually useful. Talents are just... meh. I can get that from the armory |
| 20:40.48 | cncfanatics | threat is hard to calculate |
| 20:40.49 | Nefarion | I think sending Threat would be going overboard. Anyone interested in Threat-based communication is free to use the one Library that many popular Threat addons are using, and having that data gathered and sent through a framework is a lot of useless bulk. |
| 20:40.56 | Nandini | threat being universal isn't useful if you only ever play solo, ken |
| 20:41.05 | Trae | I have !swatter |
| 20:41.12 | kenlyric_ | Nandini: ditto for talents |
| 20:41.19 | Nandini | yup :) |
| 20:41.29 | Xinhuan | trae: i suggest reupdating all your addons then, using WAU or whatever it is you use |
| 20:41.35 | kenlyric_ | but threat is useful if you group. Again, talents aren't. |
| 20:41.49 | Trae | Xinhuan, addons are a pita |
| 20:41.49 | orionshock | tallents in rock = dead horse, can we just leave it dead in peace? |
| 20:41.50 | Trae | :( |
| 20:41.52 | Trae | heh |
| 20:41.58 | kenlyric_ | orionshock: no |
| 20:42.02 | Nefarion | So you're suggesting that because from your point of view the talent sending is flawed that we should also begin throwing in more flawed info-sending? |
| 20:42.09 | kenlyric_ | not until I get incoming heals. |
| 20:42.33 | Nandini | well you are unlikely to change any personal opinions in this channel, i would suggest taking it up privately with the author |
| 20:42.36 | kenlyric_ | Nefarion: that talents seem to be a useless thing when so many useful things could be included. |
| 20:42.46 | kenlyric_ | What about profession info? |
| 20:42.53 | Nandini | i agree, that's one thing i would love to know |
| 20:43.07 | Nandini | i'd love to be able to find leatherworkers easily in my guild without having to rely on crappy and incomplete guild notes |
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| 20:43.10 | kenlyric_ | I just don't get what is so useful about talents. |
| 20:43.22 | kenlyric_ | I didn't understand the agony over the armory showing talents, either. |
| 20:43.24 | Nefarion | And that's what addons are for. |
| 20:43.26 | orionshock | lol it's not useful |
| 20:43.35 | Nefarion | It seems you want to turn frameworks into addons |
| 20:43.39 | Trae | Xinhuan, is there a tool that will auto-update all my addons for me? |
| 20:43.40 | orionshock | did anyone bother reading the commit notes when he put that in? |
| 20:43.41 | CIA-12 | tekkub-wow: 03mikko.majuri * r601 10/trunk/TourGuide/Alliance/17_18_LochModan.lua: TourGuide: 17_18_LochModan.lua added. TG doesn't load it yet |
| 20:43.43 | kenlyric_ | omg secret pom pyro! |
| 20:43.46 | orionshock | anyone? |
| 20:44.13 | Nandini | no, i would rather have it in an addon, but no one in here will change their opinions at this point |
| 20:44.42 | Nandini | i would love to have something like WMI for character info that i could install on top of RockComm (the infamous and sadly unused InfoCenter addon) |
| 20:44.51 | Nefarion | Opinions are expressions of belief. Just try and change belief with words. You won't get far save with the weak. |
| 20:45.05 | Xinhuan | trae, a program called WoWAceUpdater will do that for addons hosted on Wowace (if you use windows) |
| 20:45.20 | Trae | Xinhuan, I use Linux :/ |
| 20:45.28 | Xinhuan | then try some of the other updaters |
| 20:45.45 | Nandini | the java-based WAU2 may work on Linux, i don't know |
| 20:45.48 | Nandini | ~wau2 |
| 20:45.49 | purl | wau2 is, like, http://wowace.com/wau2 |
| 20:45.49 | orionshock | tbh if you want it changed, hit jira and post |
| 20:45.52 | Xinhuan | other than that i don't have much to offer/suggest |
| 20:45.59 | orionshock | it tbh belonges more in cow tip than anything else |
| 20:46.20 | Xinhuan | orionshock: its used in pitbull as well to get a talent spec in there |
| 20:46.21 | Xinhuan | anyway |
| 20:46.29 | Xinhuan | orionshock: you know what? someone should make a POLL on the UI forums on this ;p |
| 20:46.32 | Xinhuan | and see how this worksout |
| 20:46.38 | orionshock | ... wrong - not cow tip but DogTags |
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| 20:46.49 | Nefarion | wait, a poll about what Xin? |
| 20:46.58 | Xinhuan | whether talents should be in RockComm |
| 20:47.04 | kenlyric_ | well, if he wanted a good way to destroy is addons in the wider community, there is one. |
| 20:47.05 | Nandini | public opinion is notoriously unreliable... it got Bush elected twice |
| 20:47.30 | Xinhuan | public opinion does matter here though |
| 20:47.31 | Trae | ckknight, help! http://occy.net/tmp/bustedcart.png I need some love, my cartographer go boom. :( |
| 20:47.34 | Shadowed | theres no sense in arguing it |
| 20:47.39 | Shadowed | go branch rock without the talent stuff |
| 20:47.44 | Kemayo | Trae: http://wowacepy.googlecode.com |
| 20:47.44 | Shadowed | people can choose which they want |
| 20:47.51 | Nefarion | If you mean the official forums I think it's a pretty bad idea. Don't expect most users (or even some developers) to understand any points the developers will make on the subject. All they'll care about is how they're being directly violation--like what happened when the armory was introduced. |
| 20:47.51 | Jagobah | anyone else get a 404 error when trying to look at known issues at http://wowace.com/wau2 |
| 20:48.08 | sb | Trae: uhm - disable scrooge? |
| 20:48.18 | Trae | sb, one second please |
| 20:48.21 | Nefarion | Shadowed, there's no reason to branch that if it's an option which can be disabled. |
| 20:48.24 | naenee | You can just disable the Talent bit in Rock, without Scrooge. |
| 20:48.44 | Shadowed | you mean,t he option thats enabled by default |
| 20:48.46 | kenlyric_ | Shadowed: users don't care about framework, unless the framework exposes their SUPER SECRET |
| 20:48.51 | kenlyric_ | TALENTS |
| 20:48.52 | Nandini | Jagobah: the old trac link hasn't been updated to jira, visit the #wau channel and remind them |
| 20:48.53 | Shadowed | indeed |
| 20:48.58 | kenlyric_ | they're SUPER SECRET! |
| 20:49.01 | Jagobah | sure thing |
| 20:49.05 | orionshock | Shadowed: is jaded on the topic |
| 20:49.18 | Shadowed | and orionshock is the usual fanboi, so you can just ignore him safely |
| 20:49.24 | orionshock | pissed at everything with a personal vendetta |
| 20:49.35 | Trae | sb, http://occy.net/tmp/whereisscrooge.png |
| 20:49.38 | orionshock | fanboi? |
| 20:49.40 | Nandini | it's configurable, i'm satisfied |
| 20:49.42 | Ozguli | "you know the doomsmith etc around those pointy machines?" |
| 20:49.53 | Ozguli | someone laughed a bit when I told where to farm aldor rep |
| 20:49.57 | Nefarion | The users are free to go through the options. Those who install addons for nothing but plug-and-play features shouldn't be dealt with specially. |
| 20:50.05 | orionshock | now kettle, your calling the pot black again... |
| 20:50.25 | Nefarion | No Shadowed, it seems you're just arguing for the sake of the fight. |
| 20:50.42 | Shadowed | Not my fault you seem to confuse things |
| 20:50.57 | Nefarion | Whatever. You can have fun doing your own pointless things |
| 20:51.59 | Nandini | it's good to stand up for your own principles and ideals, but i agree that sometimes it is just counterproductive, when it becomes obvious that things will not change |
| 20:52.14 | Trae | is Scrooge somewhere other than my addons dir? |
| 20:52.19 | Trae | I can't seem to locate it |
| 20:52.21 | orionshock | i would not have said that Nandini |
| 20:52.39 | Shadowed | Nandini, it's not really a question about change. It's an open source license, nothign stops you from branching it yourself and changing it. |
| 20:52.46 | Xinhuan | trae: all i can suggest is updating your addons |
| 20:52.55 | Nandini | exactly, that would be an example of a PRODUCTIVE way to stand up for your principles and ideals :) |
| 20:53.00 | Trae | Xinhuan, yeah that python script won't work for me :( |
| 20:53.00 | Xinhuan | i.e Fubar and Cartographer specifically |
| 20:53.07 | kenlyric_ | see, you assume that everyone who thinks this is a bad idea does so because talents should be SUPER SECRET |
| 20:53.24 | Xinhuan | just update those 2 and try again |
| 20:53.38 | Ozguli | Hm... Do you know anything to make this fancier? http://koti.mbnet.fi/probli/wow/UI1.jpg & http://koti.mbnet.fi/probli/wow/UI1.jpg |
| 20:53.52 | naenee | Those links don't work |
| 20:53.59 | Ozguli | yes they do |
| 20:54.00 | Xinhuan | also both links are identical |
| 20:54.10 | kenlyric_ | and now I have a virus! |
| 20:54.10 | naenee | They don't load anything here |
| 20:54.12 | Nandini | i get a 404 error on both |
| 20:54.12 | Ozguli | replace other 1 with 2 and there you go |
| 20:54.20 | Xinhuan | The requested URL /probli/wow/UI1.jpg was not found on this server. |
| 20:54.24 | naenee | 2 doesn't work here either |
| 20:54.28 | Ozguli | where on earth I loaded them... |
| 20:54.29 | kenlyric_ | hacker. kickban pls |
| 20:54.37 | kenlyric_ | ;) |
| 20:54.42 | *** join/#wowace Athou (i=Cricket_@83.101.11.181) |
| 20:54.44 | Nandini | jpg keylogger! oh noes! |
| 20:54.52 | Ozguli | ttp://koti.mbnet.fi/probli/UI1.jpg |
| 20:54.56 | Ozguli | GAH |
| 20:54.59 | Ozguli | you get the point |
| 20:55.29 | Ozguli | http://koti.mbnet.fi/probli/UI1.jpg http://koti.mbnet.fi/probli/wow/UI2.jpg There, finally, clickable |
| 20:55.33 | Trae | Xinhuan, thanks!!! |
| 20:55.37 | Ozguli | first |
| 20:55.41 | Trae | Xinhuan, updated fubar that was it I guess |
| 20:55.43 | Xinhuan | no problem trae |
| 20:55.56 | naenee | The second does not work for me |
| 20:56.07 | mikma | remove the /wow |
| 20:56.16 | Xinhuan | whats with all those "move this bar" stuff |
| 20:56.20 | kenlyric_ | Ozguli: what mod is that? |
| 20:56.26 | orionshock | it's NECB |
| 20:56.27 | mikma | Ozguli: do you happen to use svn? |
| 20:56.28 | Nandini | i think that's NECB |
| 20:56.28 | naenee | Hm |
| 20:56.33 | durcyn | you need more shit on your minimap, Ozguli |
| 20:56.41 | Ozguli | sure I do :P |
| 20:56.56 | naenee | I don't like the inconsistent icon sizes |
| 20:57.16 | Nandini | he asked for "fancier" not more consistent :P |
| 20:57.22 | naenee | And try disabling minimap buttons or using one of those 'gather minimap icons' addons |
| 20:57.28 | Xinhuan | well "fancier" is in the eye of the beholder |
| 20:57.30 | naenee | Well, fancy is very subjective |
| 20:57.42 | Nandini | yup, i have no idea what you would find fancy, i'd say if it works for you, stick with it! |
| 20:57.52 | naenee | Indeed. Use what you want :) |
| 20:57.53 | Xinhuan | grum: ping |
| 20:57.55 | Nandini | everyone hates my UI layout, but it works great for me |
| 20:58.11 | kebinusan | Nandini: my guild makes fun of mine |
| 20:58.11 | naenee | I'll show mine |
| 20:58.14 | mikma | ozguli has nice s/m gear on |
| 20:58.46 | Ozguli | hehheh... btw do you know if I can reset my nick register somewhere or request pw? managed to forget it |
| 20:59.07 | kenlyric_ | motherfuckers who use trade for LFG make me want to stab. |
| 20:59.18 | Nandini | talk to nickserv Ozguli |
| 20:59.31 | Ozguli | it's mean! |
| 20:59.36 | naenee | http://i22.tinypic.com/ifz681.jpg |
| 20:59.47 | kebinusan | naenee, theres mine http://www.shutupandpull.com/kebinusan/kebui.jpg |
| 21:00.31 | orionshock | ewww ugly warlock |
| 21:00.34 | kebinusan | a bit more cluttered than if I didnt have to lead raids |
| 21:00.34 | orionshock | ewww... alliance |
| 21:00.39 | kebinusan | heh |
| 21:00.51 | naenee | :) |
| 21:00.54 | Ozguli | naenee pretty |
| 21:00.54 | mikma | http://wow.reaktio.net/ui-mage.png |
| 21:00.55 | kebinusan | my perpetual frowning warlock |
| 21:00.57 | mikma | goooooo me! |
| 21:01.15 | mikma | http://wow.reaktio.net/ui-paladin.png is this straight enough? |
| 21:01.20 | naenee | =] |
| 21:02.04 | Xinhuan | http://nomaam.game-host.org/forums/download.php?id=128 (yes its a .jpg of my UI) |
| 21:02.05 | Nandini | Ozguli: /msg nickserv sendpass <nickname> <email> |
| 21:02.05 | CIA-12 | 03celellach * r51300 10AtlasLoot/Core/ExtraText.lua: |
| 21:02.05 | CIA-12 | AtlasLoot: |
| 21:02.05 | CIA-12 | - a fix for WSG rewards page |
| 21:02.17 | Ozguli | hmm |
| 21:02.50 | Ozguli | unknown command |
| 21:02.52 | orionshock | ... btw if you play alliance, your a noob... end of story , end of debate, no debate.. just noobness ~~ Have a DAY :D! |
| 21:03.01 | Xinhuan | that's just trolling ;p |
| 21:03.07 | Xinhuan | alliance and horde has no differenes now |
| 21:03.14 | Xinhuan | apart from maybe fearward vs wotf |
| 21:03.26 | kebinusan | which is getting changed in 2.3 |
| 21:03.59 | kebinusan | so every priest gets fear ward |
| 21:03.59 | kebinusan | even the trolls |
| 21:03.59 | Xinhuan | with a 3 min cooldown |
| 21:03.59 | kebinusan | yeah kinda screws non warrior tanks a bit |
| 21:03.59 | Xinhuan | so it will take 6 priests to equal what 1 dwarf priest can do atm |
| 21:03.59 | Xelopheris | yeah |
| 21:04.15 | Xelopheris | I've seen druid tanks on alliance tank nef because of it :( |
| 21:04.15 | kebinusan | but then Ive never managed to have a fear ward priest in guild |
| 21:04.17 | orionshock | trolling/ |
| 21:04.20 | kenlyric_ | if you don't play both alliance and horde, you've missed half the game you've paid for. |
| 21:04.22 | orionshock | it's what i do best btw :D |
| 21:04.32 | kebinusan | ~troll |
| 21:04.32 | purl | hmm... troll is a race on some muds; a guy under a bridge: an annoying robot; a port scanner, or somebody faking being clueless to be shown the One Linux Way so he can argue against it for his psychology thesis on linux advocates, or an employee of trolltech, or at http://www.kuro5hin.org/story/2001/7/27/51233/2979 or ... |
| 21:04.38 | orionshock | and yes there is a major difference between horde and alliance |
| 21:04.40 | mikma | Ozguli: and btw, /msg nickserv help |
| 21:04.46 | Ozguli | already did |
| 21:04.49 | Xinhuan | oh you can play both horde and alliance at the same time, but to raid actively on both is crazy |
| 21:04.49 | kenlyric_ | Xinhuan: 1 coh priest, 1 imp ds priest, 3 shadow priests. perfect. |
| 21:04.50 | Ozguli | offers no actual help |
| 21:05.02 | mikma | what about freenode website |
| 21:05.09 | kebinusan | eew CoH |
| 21:05.13 | kebinusan | why not just chain heal |
| 21:05.13 | Xelopheris | ken: that doesn't work so well on nightbane :) |
| 21:05.27 | kenlyric_ | kebinusan: l2 |
| 21:05.30 | kenlyric_ | l2BT |
| 21:05.38 | Xelopheris | which was the original source of the "omgwtffearward" cries in TBC |
| 21:05.41 | orionshock | Ozguli: what are you trying to do to the poor msgserv? |
| 21:05.43 | kenlyric_ | nightbane is serious business. |
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| 21:05.59 | Ozguli | mmm |
| 21:06.07 | Ozguli | I could actually just use another |
| 21:06.09 | orionshock | or the nickserv bot |
| 21:06.16 | Xelopheris | I know nightbane is jack all, but I still can't tank him due to the fucking fear |
| 21:06.29 | kenlyric_ | Xelopheris: possibly when they said there would be no fear fights? and then gave fear ward to new alliance race? |
| 21:06.31 | Ozguli` | bitch |
| 21:06.34 | kenlyric_ | Xelopheris: you suck |
| 21:06.43 | kenlyric_ | or, you're not a warrior. |
| 21:06.51 | Xelopheris | I'm a druid |
| 21:06.53 | kenlyric_ | which, see above |
| 21:07.01 | kenlyric_ | tree and shut it |
| 21:07.05 | durcyn | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_tXzKpmRrFs |
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| 21:07.11 | Xinhuan | fear fights - Nightbane, Kael'thas... umm |
| 21:07.27 | Xelopheris | nightbane and kael so far |
| 21:07.37 | Xinhuan | well that's all i can think of |
| 21:08.14 | [dRaCo] | the fear stuff from the striders at vashj isnt fear, is it? |
| 21:08.20 | CIA-12 | 03shadowed * r51301 10!Scrooge/: |
| 21:08.20 | CIA-12 | !Scrooge: No longer needed, if you want to disable donation, talent or version |
| 21:08.20 | CIA-12 | pinging then grab the Rock branch and run them as standalone, |
| 21:08.20 | CIA-12 | http://shadowed-wow.googlecode.com/branches/LibRock-1.0 and |
| 21:08.20 | CIA-12 | http://shadowed-wow.googlecode.com/branches/LibRockComm-1.0 |
| 21:08.22 | Xinhuan | yeah but you don't tank those |
| 21:08.26 | Xelopheris | it is, but you have to be retarded to get hit by those |
| 21:08.26 | Xinhuan | you kite them |
| 21:08.31 | Xelopheris | elemental shaman ftw |
| 21:08.32 | orionshock | http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=9149.0;topicseen |
| 21:08.57 | Diao | druids can tank nightbane just fine on horde |
| 21:09.02 | Diao | you just need 2 :P |
| 21:09.08 | kenlyric_ | expect many more fear fights in WotLK :) |
| 21:09.26 | kenlyric_ | Diao: it's not like alliance have fear ward, either. |
| 21:09.26 | orionshock | Shadowed: ... forgot the /svn in those :P |
| 21:09.40 | Diao | no i mean right now |
| 21:09.43 | Diao | without FW |
| 21:09.45 | Shadowed | yes |
| 21:09.46 | Shadowed | that would be an issue |
| 21:09.47 | kenlyric_ | all the dwarf priests who rolled for mag/nef went back to their rogues. |
| 21:09.52 | Shadowed | They'll figure it out |
| 21:09.55 | Chompers | mornogrim to 50% horay! :D |
| 21:10.05 | kebinusan | See shadowed thats what you should have done from the beginning imo |
| 21:10.06 | Chompers | mornogrim :o |
| 21:10.07 | Diao | lol |
| 21:10.08 | kenlyric_ | Chompers: make a post on general |
| 21:10.11 | durcyn | Chompers: gg nerfed bosses |
| 21:10.13 | Chompers | we have |
| 21:10.14 | Shadowed | Actually, I forgot about the license until yesterday |
| 21:10.18 | sb | i dont get the 'disable donation' thing... |
| 21:10.25 | Chompers | we also told everyone of our success against hogger |
| 21:10.35 | durcyn | sb: it's, uh, how do you say, a dead horse. |
| 21:10.41 | kenlyric_ | so you don't accidntally not be a leech? |
| 21:10.43 | Shadowed | I forgot that it was under LGPL and thus perfectly allowed, hence why it wasn't done from the start. |
| 21:11.18 | Tuller | will it crash wow? :P |
| 21:11.19 | kebinusan | that was a rather nice spew durcyn |
| 21:11.30 | durcyn | kebinusan: spew? |
| 21:11.30 | Shadowed | only if you run bongos |
| 21:11.37 | kenlyric_ | dead horses don't fight back. |
| 21:11.38 | orionshock | only goes to further the argument that ckknight is no longer welcome at wowace or that he should just relicence to MIT or somehting closedsource |
| 21:11.56 | Shadowed | again |
| 21:11.59 | Shadowed | you're mixing two different things |
| 21:11.59 | kenlyric_ | wow. |
| 21:12.03 | kenlyric_ | I see the fanboy. |
| 21:12.10 | kebinusan | vomit |
| 21:12.10 | durcyn | kebinusan: it's been discussed to death and reduced to personality conflicts, really needs not be repeated. |
| 21:12.23 | orionshock | no im no - all i see is a bunch of asses that are begining to hate someone... |
| 21:12.24 | kebinusan | the youtube link |
| 21:12.28 | kebinusan | not the scrooge thing |
| 21:12.33 | orionshock | no fanboi here, just a voice of reason |
| 21:12.35 | durcyn | kebinusan: oh. ;) |
| 21:12.38 | Shadowed | Hardly a voice of reason |
| 21:12.40 | Shadowed | it's called a license |
| 21:12.41 | kenlyric_ | orionshock: actually, it's the opposite. They fixing his mistakes |
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| 21:12.49 | kenlyric_ | 're |
| 21:12.58 | Shadowed | If you don't want people making "improvements", don't release under a license that allows it. |
| 21:13.05 | Shadowed | improvements being subjective |
| 21:13.16 | kenlyric_ | if they didn't want him here, they'd take away his svn account. |
| 21:13.17 | Shadowed | Thats the entire point of open source isn't it? |
| 21:13.25 | kenlyric_ | Shadowed: no, you must obey. |
| 21:13.26 | orionshock | kenlyric : mistake in this case is a matter of opinion not fact |
| 21:13.29 | Shadowed | hehe |
| 21:13.33 | kenlyric_ | orionshock: exactly. |
| 21:13.37 | kenlyric_ | choices good |
| 21:14.28 | Shadowed | And yes, it is my fault that I didn't check the license before hand, oh well. |
| 21:14.31 | orionshock | ... my point there was that because you call it a mistake dosn't make it so, because the statement is in fact an opinion. |
| 21:14.43 | kenlyric_ | I don't think it's a mistake. |
| 21:14.48 | kenlyric_ | the person writing the addon does. |
| 21:14.53 | orionshock | nevermind - as if logical argument over irc ever worked |
| 21:14.56 | kenlyric_ | please try to follow |
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| 21:15.15 | Shadowed | Yes |
| 21:15.20 | Shadowed | clearly you know better about what I do then I do |
| 21:15.31 | CIA-12 | 03laric * r51302 10AoFDKP/AoFDKP.lua: |
| 21:15.31 | CIA-12 | AoFDKP : |
| 21:15.31 | CIA-12 | -Some fixes |
| 21:15.36 | kenlyric_ | orionshock: so, fixing what you perceive as a mistake means you don't want the original addon author around anymore. Does that mean ck doesn't want the ace3 devs around because he made rock? |
| 21:16.24 | durcyn | kenlyric_: it's well established that certain ace3/dongle people and ck don't get along. but there's really no reason to rehash the drama. |
| 21:16.24 | orionshock | lol |
| 21:16.52 | Shadowed | it's simple |
| 21:16.56 | orionshock | if your going to throw causeality at me , do it right, begging to end not the other way around |
| 21:17.02 | Shadowed | point out how my branch breaks the LGPL license, I'll either fix it or remove it. No sense in arguing it anymore |
| 21:17.15 | kenlyric_ | durcyn: yeah, but ck didn't leave, either. Maybe he's not as much of a xenophobe. |
| 21:17.30 | orionshock | Shadowed: not my point - i could care less about the branch |
| 21:17.31 | kenlyric_ | orionshock: it's the same thing, any way you slice it. |
| 21:17.41 | orionshock | kenlyric no it's not, |
| 21:17.49 | kebinusan | Shadowed: perssonally I thought that was the point of license that branching was allowed as long as you redistributed source |
| 21:18.00 | Shadowed | Yea thats my understanding of it |
| 21:18.09 | mikma | Shadowed: wah wah u suxx |
| 21:18.13 | Shadowed | Along with something like, the code you add is now GPL/LGPL, dunno the exacts |
| 21:18.23 | mikma | Shadowed: you antirock |
| 21:18.27 | CIA-12 | 03laric * r51303 10AoFDKP/ (AoFDKP.lua dkp_list.lua): |
| 21:18.27 | CIA-12 | AoFDKP : |
| 21:18.27 | CIA-12 | - More fixes from Tommaso |
| 21:18.57 | orionshock | im sorry - the rock / ace3 split happened more because of a difference of opinion on how things should work with in a frame work, the majority of the ace3 team felt differently than ckknight and thus the divide.. read the wiki |
| 21:19.18 | orionshock | it's rather obvious |
| 21:19.33 | kenlyric_ | which is exactly the same thinghappening with shadowed and the talent option. |
| 21:19.36 | Shadowed | closer to a fact, not obvious =p |
| 21:19.38 | kenlyric_ | difference of opinion. |
| 21:19.48 | Shadowed | less arguing |
| 21:19.49 | Shadowed | go play wow |
| 21:19.55 | kenlyric_ | doesn't mean either one is no longer welcome. |
| 21:19.55 | orionshock | im trying to |
| 21:19.58 | Shadowed | so am i |
| 21:20.03 | winkiller | bartender doesn't show the circling global cooldown anymore - any idea how that option is called or maybe is that omniccs fault? |
| 21:20.03 | Shadowed | but it takes like 5 minutes to run between areas |
| 21:20.14 | durcyn | Shadowed: i'm touching myself right now, it's much more rewarding than this mental masturbation |
| 21:20.15 | kenlyric_ | i'm forced to watch football and be on my laptop, so suck it. |
| 21:20.27 | Nandini | Ozguli`: did you ask in #freenode about your password? maybe they can help you there |
| 21:20.28 | orionshock | kenlyric reason i said that was more due to the understanding of others actions and methods... |
| 21:20.39 | Ozguli` | meh |
| 21:20.39 | [dRaCo] | winkiller: that feature was removed from bt3 a while ago |
| 21:20.42 | Ozguli` | I'm happy with this |
| 21:20.44 | winkiller | fammit |
| 21:20.53 | winkiller | any idea how to reget that? |
| 21:21.08 | mikma | Tuller: omnicc sucks |
| 21:21.15 | Shadowed | Tuller you suck |
| 21:21.23 | [dRaCo] | get a cooldown mod that does that for you... omnicc or cooldowncount |
| 21:21.26 | kenlyric_ | winkiller: wow, that was removed from BT3 like six months ago. |
| 21:21.28 | Nandini | i am an omnicc fanboi |
| 21:21.37 | mikma | Nandini: you suck |
| 21:21.40 | kenlyric_ | because it was horribly fucked up and broke bt3 |
| 21:21.53 | winkiller | well, maybe it was the omnicc UPDATE i idd then |
| 21:21.56 | Xinhuan | fyi cooldowncount has always caused tainting issues with the petbar in the last 12 months i've tried it, so i've stuck with omnicc |
| 21:21.58 | kenlyric_ | yeah, and basically don't use cooldowncount until it gets fixed. |
| 21:21.59 | winkiller | thus I asked if it was bartender |
| 21:22.32 | [dRaCo] | there's something in cdc's commit log that sounds like a fix |
| 21:22.46 | kenlyric_ | Xinhuan: not anymore. pet module was disabled completely because it couldn't be fixed. |
| 21:22.47 | Tuller | hrm cooldown count causes tainting issues? |
| 21:22.49 | Xinhuan | yep maybe its fixed now, but it took 9 months to fix it |
| 21:22.59 | Tuller | I bet i can fix that :P |
| 21:23.08 | Xinhuan | try asking any mage to try it |
| 21:23.09 | kenlyric_ | [dRaCo]: in the past week? |
| 21:23.13 | [dRaCo] | yeah |
| 21:23.17 | Xinhuan | having CDC + summon water ele = taint |
| 21:23.20 | kenlyric_ | fuck a duck |
| 21:23.20 | Xinhuan | + no pet bar |
| 21:23.28 | Xinhuan | hence CDC sucks :) |
| 21:23.34 | orionshock | Hourglass FTW |
| 21:23.40 | Xinhuan | been like that for nearly a year |
| 21:23.54 | kenlyric_ | Xinhuan: well, blizzard fucked up summoned pet bars in combat for a long time. |
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| 21:24.11 | Xinhuan | kenlyric: omnicc had 0 issues over the last year with it |
| 21:24.12 | orionshock | and tbh hourglass seems a bit overly complicated for what it does... |
| 21:25.06 | CIA-12 | 03sylvanaar * r51304 10EnhancedLFG/EnhancedLFG.toc: EnhancedLFG: Release site metadata |
| 21:25.42 | orionshock | sylvanaar: is EnhLFG going to turn into the new CTA? |
| 21:25.56 | kenlyric_ | this update doesn't look like a pet bar fix to me |
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| 21:26.36 | aestil | orionshock: it uses blizzards own LFG though, so its just like a bonus if someone is runnign rockcomm. |
| 21:26.56 | aestil | sylvanaar: does it grab their talents if they are running rockcomm, or only if they have enhancedLFG? |
| 21:27.02 | orionshock | i know - i saw... but sylvanaar was also working on CTA... |
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| 21:27.15 | orionshock | aestil: should work either way |
| 21:27.27 | sylvanaar | i was just maintaining cta in a still runnable state |
| 21:27.37 | kenlyric_ | cta? |
| 21:27.37 | sylvanaar | aestil rockcomm |
| 21:27.43 | Ozguli` | harr |
| 21:27.52 | aestil | sylvanaar: thats a great use of the talent sniff. |
| 21:27.59 | Ozguli` | scrapped my titan etc unfuctional stuff |
| 21:28.16 | Ozguli` | and dl'd fu addons |
| 21:28.52 | Tuller | function CooldownCount:OnEnable() |
| 21:28.53 | Tuller | if self.db.profile.hideAnimation then |
| 21:28.55 | Tuller | self:Hook("CooldownFrame_SetTimer", "CooldownFrame_SetTimer_HideAnimation", true) |
| 21:28.56 | Nandini | something i installed recently pulled in all of fubar as a dependency, that was annoying, i should have sent the author a nasty note |
| 21:28.56 | orionshock | really it's such an odd thing, it really dosn't belong anywyere |
| 21:28.56 | Tuller | else |
| 21:28.58 | Tuller | self:SecureHook("CooldownFrame_SetTimer") |
| 21:28.59 | Tuller | end |
| 21:29.00 | Dezzimal | whats the main Ace2 DoT watcher for warlocks/shadowpriests etc |
| 21:29.01 | Tuller | end |
| 21:29.02 | Nandini | and it wasn't a fubar plugin |
| 21:29.03 | Tuller | found it :P |
| 21:29.22 | orionshock | Dezzimal: i use chronomiter |
| 21:29.37 | orionshock | it does the job for what i need it to do |
| 21:29.38 | Tuller | unless that really is a secure hook in the first case |
| 21:29.39 | kenlyric_ | Nandini: yeah, lots of authors make that mistake. |
| 21:29.52 | kenlyric_ | dottimer |
| 21:29.52 | Dezzimal | I've been using dotimer |
| 21:29.57 | Dezzimal | is that ace2? |
| 21:29.58 | kenlyric_ | chron |
| 21:29.59 | Dezzimal | eh? |
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| 21:30.06 | kenlyric_ | classtimers |
| 21:30.14 | orionshock | no DoTimer is not Ace2 |
| 21:30.56 | orionshock | it sucks too much to be ace2 :P |
| 21:30.56 | RogueShadow | I use DoTimer, or have in the past. |
| 21:31.10 | sylvanaar | orionshock enhancedlfg is going to stay small, something else will have to become cta |
| 21:31.11 | kenlyric_ | i don't know of any other mod that does exactly that. |
| 21:31.43 | durcyn | why not just use quartz target/focus buff timers |
| 21:31.53 | kenlyric_ | the whole concept of dot watching will likely change in 2.3, I think |
| 21:31.55 | Dezzimal | because it doesn't track things I'm not targeting |
| 21:31.56 | Corey | whats cta? |
| 21:32.00 | kenlyric_ | durcyn: because they're not your target |
| 21:32.04 | RogueShadow | ya |
| 21:32.15 | durcyn | kenlyric_: focus timers work wonderfully for me for cc etc |
| 21:32.16 | RogueShadow | warlocks. can dot like crazy. need to redot |
| 21:32.18 | Dezzimal | I've been using quartz dot watchers, not out of choice though |
| 21:32.24 | orionshock | sylvanaar: tbh... i think i might start putzing arround with some of it... ive got the event stuff down, ive done localizations.... haven't worked with XML / Lua interaction yet.. |
| 21:32.25 | kenlyric_ | durcyn: cc is not dot. |
| 21:32.29 | Dezzimal | but because I forgot to install dotimer lol |
| 21:32.32 | durcyn | kenlyric_: it shows all debuffs |
| 21:32.37 | Ozguli` | Feel the flow! |
| 21:32.39 | kenlyric_ | durcyn: on your focus. |
| 21:32.47 | durcyn | kenlyric_: and target, yes |
| 21:32.59 | durcyn | and i do play a warlock, so don't give me that noise |
| 21:33.04 | kenlyric_ | durcyn: are you a lock/spriest? you don't seem to understand the concept. |
| 21:33.28 | kenlyric_ | well, if you only 2v2 pvp, i guess it's enough. |
| 21:33.42 | Dezzimal | is there a way I could get quartz |
| 21:33.45 | Dezzimal | to ignore mindflay? |
| 21:33.51 | Dezzimal | it shows that as a DoT |
| 21:33.54 | kenlyric_ | most locks i know got the dots on every enemy possible |
| 21:34.05 | durcyn | kenlyric_: there's no reason to be condescending. |
| 21:34.10 | kenlyric_ | even ones they shouldn't! |
| 21:34.11 | chexsum | my whisper cast is starting to work - woot |
| 21:34.12 | Kerafyrm | smf can be really annoying |
| 21:34.14 | durcyn | Dezzimal: it shows all target debuffs without filtering |
| 21:34.22 | Dezzimal | can I make it filter? |
| 21:34.28 | Dezzimal | I really don't need to see mindflay |
| 21:34.30 | Paene | Is there a frame creation library? |
| 21:34.31 | Dezzimal | or misery for that matter |
| 21:34.40 | orionshock | ? pick lock is now trainable? |
| 21:34.49 | RogueShadow | All combat information addon's will change drastically eventually. When they redo the combat log and let you track unique targets |
| 21:34.54 | kenlyric_ | Dezzimal: that might have been the reason I dropped quartz buffs. |
| 21:35.21 | kenlyric_ | RogueShadow: isn't that 2.3? |
| 21:35.30 | chexsum | quartz is good for debuffs |
| 21:35.35 | durcyn | last i heard combatlog was slated for 2.4 |
| 21:35.35 | sylvanaar | orionshock well, the rockcomm stuff already being in the field makes an LFG tool viable. i'd say about 1/4 in lfg display spec now - which is pretty good. |
| 21:35.40 | RogueShadow | either 2.3 or 2.4 |
| 21:35.50 | kenlyric_ | i vastly prefer EBB over quartz. |
| 21:35.50 | Marli | 2.4 |
| 21:36.03 | Dezzimal | kenlyric_: yeah its kinda annoying that it has to show mindflay as a debuff :( |
| 21:36.05 | kenlyric_ | because EBB has filtering, I think. |
| 21:36.07 | Nandini | i use EBB for player, target, and focus buffs and debuffs |
| 21:36.27 | RogueShadow | sylvanaar, let us know if somebody threatens to kill you because you saw thier spec. |
| 21:36.41 | kenlyric_ | SUPER SECRET |
| 21:36.43 | sylvanaar | RogueShadow ok, will do |
| 21:37.03 | kenlyric_ | respond by telling them what their dagger skill is. |
| 21:37.16 | RogueShadow | ya really |
| 21:37.25 | Nandini | just curious what happens if someone spoofs their talents as 41/41/41, does RockComm intelligently ignore it before passing it on? |
| 21:37.30 | RogueShadow | tell them thier fishing skill |
| 21:37.42 | kenlyric_ | use rockcomm to link all toons on an account together |
| 21:37.52 | chexsum | alent spoof sounds like a nice addon |
| 21:37.55 | chexsum | talent |
| 21:38.06 | kenlyric_ | something that's actually secret. |
| 21:38.10 | RogueShadow | if they spoof, at least be smart enough to go 1/1/1 or somethin |
| 21:38.26 | RogueShadow | 0/0/0 is most viable |
| 21:38.37 | chexsum | show it as if youve picked all the stupid talents |
| 21:38.40 | orionshock | spoof.. |
| 21:38.40 | RogueShadow | "hey .. ya... that's right. I just wiped them to respec.. ya that's it" |
| 21:38.41 | Dezzimal | go 1/1/1 but have it be all the 41pt talents |
| 21:38.42 | orionshock | lol |
| 21:39.01 | chexsum | like imp fade for shadow priests |
| 21:39.20 | orionshock | rock com + Talented + abuse = bad karama |
| 21:39.45 | Megalon | karamamama |
| 21:40.11 | kebinusan | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K_622w_ttiU lol |
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| 21:40.44 | durcyn | kebinusan: old news, sorry |
| 21:40.50 | Nandini | yes but could i potentially find some comination of talents to send that will cause an error? |
| 21:40.53 | kebinusan | I idle too much |
| 21:41.01 | Nandini | that would be ideal. |
| 21:41.30 | Tuller | ab/cd/ef |
| 21:41.31 | chexsum | non-numeric maybe |
| 21:41.47 | Nandini | just curious if it has any vulnerabilities |
| 21:42.08 | Tuller | I think the best solution would be a user agent switcher |
| 21:42.21 | Tuller | "Healer/Tank/DPS" |
| 21:42.26 | chexsum | wonder if a worm can be created! |
| 21:42.42 | qwesto | Is there any way to have more than 18 macros per character? (Except for the 18 general ones) |
| 21:43.04 | Nandini | for example, even tho rockcomm isn't supposed to respond or send to same-faction opponents in arena, what if i could send them something that broke an addon for them? |
| 21:43.18 | chexsum | macros can be part of a buttons attribute to get around the limit |
| 21:44.08 | Megalon | well, rockcomm sends a table of every talenttree with the points spent in every talent |
| 21:44.30 | Nandini | hmm what if i sent a spoofed response with 10 points in a particular talent |
| 21:45.12 | Nandini | i'm not really a sociopath, this is just the way my mind works sometimes |
| 21:45.30 | Nandini | too many "what-ifs" |
| 21:47.24 | Xelo||afk | All I know is that I'll make it return 61/61/61 |
| 21:47.36 | MoonWitch | Nandini, remember my texture issues? it's still not working LOL |
| 21:47.45 | Xinhuan | you can't do that Nandini ;p |
| 21:47.56 | Megalon | you can replace local spent = select(6, GetTalentInfo(i, j)) |
| 21:48.05 | hyperChipmunk | you can do whatever you want |
| 21:48.07 | Megalon | +it with ;D |
| 21:48.10 | Xinhuan | ckknight encoded each talent point using 3 bits, which means you can only spoof at most 7 talent points in any talent |
| 21:48.15 | Megalon | then it trasmits all talents as maxed out |
| 21:48.20 | rob` | I wouldn't want arena opponents to know my spec (prot paladin) because then they'd just ignore me instead of letting me fake them into attacking the "healer" :P |
| 21:48.25 | Xinhuan | 0-7 that is |
| 21:48.30 | qwesto | chexsum: how do I make a macro a part of a buttons attribute then? ^^ |
| 21:48.39 | kenlyric_ | rob`: yeah, talk to blizzard. |
| 21:48.47 | kenlyric_ | arena enemies already know your spec. |
| 21:48.48 | Megalon | i mean replace 'local spent = select(5, GetTalentInfo(i, j))' with 'local spent = select(6, GetTalentInfo(i, j))' |
| 21:48.49 | Megalon | ;) |
| 21:51.37 | Nandini | if i were a big arena junkie, i might go so far as to get rich and respec to 0/0/0 before logging off to avoid armory scraping |
| 21:52.33 | kenlyric_ | you mean idiot. |
| 21:53.06 | Megalon | :D |
| 21:53.06 | durcyn | you should also delete your character and replace it with a level 1 so they can't see you. |
| 21:53.08 | Xelopheris | the problem with that is that it's so easy to tell what someon eis spec'd five seconds into combat |
| 21:53.28 | kenlyric_ | Xelopheris: and every other time you play them after that |
| 21:53.35 | Nandini | yes but every second of confusion is a second to my advantage! buahahaha |
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| 21:56.13 | kenlyric_ | my favorite paranoid talent nazi are the ones who think they have the most unique talent spec ever and it turns out to be the fourth most common one. |
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| 21:56.46 | CIA-12 | tekkub-wow: 03tekkub * r602 10/trunk/TourGuide/QuestTracking.lua: TourGuide - Fix for flightpath detection |
| 21:56.47 | CIA-12 | tekkub-wow: 03mikko.majuri * r603 10/trunk/TourGuide/Alliance/17_18_LochModan.lua: TourGuide: fixed some typos |
| 21:56.58 | Xelopheris | everyone is either cookie-cutter or horrible at their class |
| 21:57.05 | Xelopheris | because there's a reason cookie cutter is cookie cutter |
| 21:57.28 | kenlyric_ | i have PoM AND Pyro! Super secret! |
| 21:57.43 | sylvanaar | i dont like how they give you a live damage / heal number in bg's |
| 21:57.44 | kenlyric_ | they'll never see it coming. |
| 21:58.21 | chexsum | looks like you can pass a filled talent tree |
| 21:58.30 | kenlyric_ | i'm beginning to think my cookie cutter bm build is giving my pet too much focus. |
| 21:58.36 | sylvanaar | im sure you can spoof it |
| 21:59.12 | sylvanaar | no, its called /ignore whoever |
| 21:59.15 | Nandini | yes, we must validate the talents! let's add that into RockComm too |
| 21:59.22 | durcyn | Tuller: trace buster buster buster buster buster |
| 21:59.24 | Tuller | followed by the disable button that moves away from the cursor when you try to click it :) |
| 21:59.47 | nymbia | lol |
| 21:59.51 | Nandini | that way if someone spoofs we can at least rest assured that they have spoofed a valid build |
| 21:59.54 | kenlyric_ | my guess is when my crit passes 20%, 2/2 BD will be overkill. |
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| 22:00.52 | Nandini | "hello, i am a level 70 druid with 1 point in tree of life form." |
| 22:00.57 | Nandini | "no ur not!!!!" |
| 22:01.18 | Nandini | "okay i have 3 points in tree of life form, do you believe me now?" |
| 22:01.47 | Nandini | "ur spoofing me!" |
| 22:02.24 | Tuller | "rock detects spoof and crashes your wow" |
| 22:02.39 | kenlyric_ | speaking of talents, isn't there a website that armory scraped for the top builds? |
| 22:02.52 | Nandini | ooh yes, rock should have some self-defense mechanisms that fires back something to crash the spoofer! |
| 22:03.04 | kenlyric_ | the spoofer is running rock too. |
| 22:03.06 | Tuller | kill command 7! |
| 22:03.11 | kenlyric_ | so it doesn't have to "fire back" |
| 22:03.29 | Nandini | why must i run rockcomm to spoof sending talent data? |
| 22:03.31 | Tuller | because kill commands 1-6 are for scrooge :P |
| 22:04.03 | orionshock | Tuller: me thinks there is a sanity check at the User lvl, so one at the addon lvl isn't really /needed/ |
| 22:04.32 | Nandini | maybe my addon can also spoof things for raid checks, for example, i have 2 million reagents and my durability is at 145% |
| 22:04.34 | chexsum | local _, class = UnitClass("player") |
| 22:04.40 | chexsum | becomes... |
| 22:04.46 | CIA-12 | tekkub-wow: 03tekkub * r604 10/trunk/TourGuide/OHGuides.lua: TourGuide - Guide list now displayes 48 guides, also, scrolling! |
| 22:04.54 | chexsum | local class = "WARLOCK" |
| 22:05.00 | chexsum | the beginning of the spoof! |
| 22:05.10 | Nandini | heheh i like it |
| 22:05.13 | chexsum | thisll be fun |
| 22:05.58 | chexsum | im now a lvl 80 warlock |
| 22:06.01 | chexsum | ph33r |
| 22:06.04 | Nandini | grats! |
| 22:06.34 | Nandini | i won't even have to /who you if my rock can just ask your fake rock |
| 22:06.52 | kenlyric_ | hmmm.. tourguide? |
| 22:07.10 | Grum | vhaarr: thanks for the 'bug report' and fix :) |
| 22:07.40 | chexsum | lvl80 lock with 5 talent trees |
| 22:07.42 | kenlyric_ | anyone at all remember such a site? |
| 22:07.44 | chexsum | omfg |
| 22:08.00 | Nandini | nerf locks! |
| 22:09.25 | Nandini | i wonder how much havoc could really be wreaked if someone wrote an honest to goodness malicious addon |
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| 22:09.50 | Shadowed | not much |
| 22:09.55 | Shadowed | you could only spoof your own data |
| 22:10.11 | vhaarr | Grum: np |
| 22:10.15 | Nandini | i could write an addon that deleted all epics from a player's inventory? |
| 22:10.46 | kenlyric_ | there's a limit to maliciousness. |
| 22:10.56 | elusif | anyone running wow under linux/wine? |
| 22:10.58 | MoonWitch | awww evil is limited? |
| 22:11.00 | Xelopheris | You have to be subtle |
| 22:11.09 | cncfanatics | elusif, me, why ? |
| 22:11.17 | elusif | how's that working out for ya? |
| 22:11.23 | elusif | i want to get rid of microsoft |
| 22:11.26 | Grum | vhaarr: could you drop me a line next time btw (no problem that you didn't do it now) - just so i dont overlook your changes :D |
| 22:11.27 | Xelopheris | like for instance, write an addon to use Deadly Poison instead of Wound Poison :P |
| 22:11.27 | elusif | but but but - i'm scared :( |
| 22:11.33 | Grum | oh and got anything else that i need to change? |
| 22:11.34 | cncfanatics | elusif, faster then on windows lol |
| 22:11.38 | Grum | doing most of the stuff you mentioned now |
| 22:11.44 | Shadowed | You couldn't do that |
| 22:11.44 | cncfanatics | cuz of all the crap thats not running in the background anymore |
| 22:11.45 | Shadowed | due to secure stuff |
| 22:11.49 | Grum | (cleaning out options - yay for unfinished dewdrop conversion) |
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| 22:12.07 | Xelopheris | point |
| 22:12.18 | cncfanatics | actualy you could |
| 22:12.40 | cncfanatics | loop through all 120 action id's, if there's deadly poison on it put wound poison instead, do that before combat |
| 22:13.03 | kenlyric_ | http://thebuildmine.blogspot.com/ was what I was looking for. |
| 22:13.52 | Nandini | could i write an addon that next time you go to the mailbox mails all your gold to me? |
| 22:14.18 | cncfanatics | actualy, I think so |
| 22:14.25 | Nandini | or buys my AH items when you visit the AH? |
| 22:14.32 | cncfanatics | I also think so :p |
| 22:14.51 | Nandini | or makes you dance whenever i send you a whisper? lol |
| 22:14.56 | Arrowmaster | ok you know your raid has problems when a curse of elements gets knocked off a trash mob 10 seconds into the fight |
| 22:15.06 | rob` | hey, what do you guys think of tanks using the Nightfall axe, when they're no longer tanking, to proc a debuff on raid bosses in BC? I know it's a level 60 weapon, but it's not like tanks will be doing much damage anyway. |
| 22:15.30 | Xelopheris | it's pretty good DPS increase |
| 22:15.53 | rob` | I figured in fights like Magtheridon, where there are tanks that are pretty useless past phase 1, it could be a good idea. |
| 22:15.56 | Nandini | rob: is it long enough to be worth the GCD for switching it in and out? |
| 22:15.58 | Polarina | Level 60 legendary weapons rule. |
| 22:15.59 | Arrowmaster | ret pally with nightfall and BT haste gear |
| 22:16.06 | Xelopheris | Nandini: you'd be using it the entire fight |
| 22:16.21 | rob` | arrow: that's crazy talk. I like it. |
| 22:16.25 | Xelopheris | on something like mag after your add is dead |
| 22:16.32 | Grum | vhaarr: any ideas about the structure of the options atm? |
| 22:16.33 | Nandini | oh i see tanks who are not tanking |
| 22:16.33 | rob` | it's too bad seal of blood can't spark reckoning. :) |
| 22:16.50 | Grum | pondering if I should move the 'settings' to the base-level |
| 22:16.52 | Nandini | that's one thing that makes me glad to be a druid |
| 22:16.53 | Arcaia | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V2_ueohYRhU |
| 22:16.53 | Arcaia | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V2_ueohYRhU |
| 22:17.02 | vhaarr | Grum: I told Xinhuan my thoughts |
| 22:17.08 | Xelopheris | it's not that big of a DPS loss for the warrior, considering it's only weapon damage you're losing (you still have all the damage from AP) |
| 22:17.12 | Nandini | if i'm not needed to tank for part of an encounter i can do half a dozen other useful things |
| 22:17.16 | Grum | vhaarr: yeah seen log |
| 22:17.20 | Xelopheris | so going from a 100 DPS 2h to a 40 DPS 2h is 60 base DPS lost |
| 22:17.31 | Nandini | that sounds like a smart idea rob |
| 22:17.39 | alcohol | Arcaia: wtf lol |
| 22:17.45 | Xinhuan | grum's doing the UI, i'm doing the algo ;p |
| 22:17.53 | MoonWitch | Nandini, any other advise re: background textures? The dimensions are correct this time 256 * 32 to be on the safe side. Still nothing... It's correctly embedded into SharedMedia... |
| 22:17.55 | Xinhuan | brb, adding pruning code |
| 22:17.59 | Grum | [10/8 02:57:44] <@vhaarr> Xinhuan: the whole rock config thing here is just silly, okay first of all, the routes root settings, Add Route |
| 22:18.03 | rob` | I think I'm going to work to get four or five of these made for our tanking team; lava cores and fiery cores are still pretty cheap. |
| 22:18.08 | Grum | just not sure what you meant |
| 22:18.16 | chexsum | heh im now a hybrid specd 80 warlock |
| 22:18.16 | Grum | but i find it stupid to click on 'Settings' ^^ |
| 22:18.30 | Xelopheris | 71/71/71 |
| 22:18.32 | Xelopheris | ? |
| 22:18.46 | chexsum | librockcomm 51337 loaded |
| 22:19.18 | chexsum | nah i dont understand the talent code atm - its 14/14/14 :( |
| 22:19.30 | Xelopheris | STILL OP! |
| 22:19.35 | chexsum | yea |
| 22:20.45 | Xelopheris | http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=f0ebogToidVohfV0bEZV <<-- level 80 combat mutilate with dagger spec and opportunity... think it'll be OP? |
| 22:22.19 | Polarina | Everything that can kill me is overpowered. Simple. ;) |
| 22:22.59 | cryogen | cncfanatics: ingame ping |
| 22:23.16 | chexsum | bleh adrenaline rush shadowstep ftw |
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| 22:23.45 | chexsum | hang on thatd be 81 :( |
| 22:24.21 | sag_ich_nicht | Xelopheris: no, because there will be lvl 80 talents. |
| 22:24.45 | Xelopheris | yeah, but you just have to realize the pure synergy in there means you'd need some very powerful level 80 talents |
| 22:24.54 | chexsum | 'increased chance for rogue to be accepted into a raid' |
| 22:25.05 | cncfanatics | chexsum, increase ur dps then :p |
| 22:25.20 | Pkekyo | what date is it today? |
| 22:25.34 | Xelopheris | sunday oct 7th |
| 22:25.45 | sag_ich_nicht | monday 8th oct |
| 22:25.48 | sag_ich_nicht | :P |
| 22:25.48 | kenlyric_ | Xelopheris: I remember people drooling over some awesome 31/30 builds which never worked out when the 41 point talents came out. |
| 22:25.51 | Pkekyo | cheers |
| 22:27.18 | CIA-12 | 03cncfanatics * r51305 10FlexBar2/Attributes/Attributes.lua: FlexBar2: Listen to the correct namespace for spellcache updates |
| 22:27.52 | Xelopheris | I'm waiting to see a flexbar2 GUI happen :( |
| 22:28.04 | Xelopheris | Or I can make a few buttons, take a look at the SV and modify that I guess |
| 22:28.16 | Tuller | I always thought the point of flexbar was to not have a GUI |
| 22:28.28 | Xelopheris | no, flexbar is ultimate customization with no limits |
| 22:28.32 | mikma | what's the flex in that |
| 22:28.34 | Xinhuan | the GUI can be a seperate addon |
| 22:28.37 | mikma | that's like cementbar |
| 22:28.38 | Xinhuan | that is LOD |
| 22:28.47 | cncfanatics | Xelopheris, the slashcommands are quite easy to learn |
| 22:29.19 | Xelopheris | cncfanatics, it's more or less my frustration in configuring everything for all my feral, resto, and pvp resto specs |
| 22:29.23 | kebinusan | isnt there some slashcommand wtih glorylib for arena point |
| 22:29.39 | Xelopheris | I'm looking at manually slashcommanding 100~ish buttons |
| 22:29.39 | sag_ich_nicht | yes |
| 22:29.40 | cncfanatics | Xelopheris, its even more of a frustration if u start messing withsavedvars |
| 22:30.22 | orionshock | .... |
| 22:30.26 | orionshock | i'z hate mages |
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| 22:45.13 | Polarina | purl: Cookie. |
| 22:45.13 | purl | ACTION gives <who> a cookie |
| 22:45.22 | Polarina | purl: Cookie for you. |
| 22:46.39 | Xelopheris | lawl, there's a wowwiki.com entry for 'Soon' |
| 22:47.11 | Polarina | lol |
| 22:48.07 | theoddone33 | so a faction where the farthest progressed PVE guild is working on vashj and has only killed void reaver in TK... |
| 22:48.12 | theoddone33 | is that... good pve progression? |
| 22:48.22 | theoddone33 | for a casual guild |
| 22:48.25 | hyperChipmunk | not enough info |
| 22:48.57 | hyperChipmunk | server pop, location, age, etc. are all factors |
| 22:49.09 | durcyn | 65th percentile worldwide |
| 22:49.12 | hyperChipmunk | past splits too |
| 22:49.15 | durcyn | failing grade most places |
| 22:49.45 | theoddone33 | horde side, day 1 server, high pop overall, low pop horde |
| 22:49.52 | Xelopheris | don't forget that there are a lot of servers where there was one 'top' guild and they transfered off |
| 22:50.06 | Xelopheris | and the nextbest build is more than an entire tier behind |
| 22:50.20 | kenlyric_ | age matters not. tbc slate wiping, etc. |
| 22:51.05 | theoddone33 | we get realm forum threads about "why does horde progression suck so much" and then the guild that's on vashj posts "we're on vashj!" |
| 22:51.10 | theoddone33 | heh |
| 22:51.27 | CIA-12 | 03ckknight * r51309 10LibRockComm-1.0/LibRockComm-1.0.lua: LibRockComm-1.0 - remove some needless sanity checks |
| 22:52.00 | orionshock | anyone know what the honor cap is? |
| 22:52.08 | chexsum | 75k i think |
| 22:52.21 | Corgan | yeah, it's 75k |
| 22:52.34 | Xelopheris | that's enough for four pieces |
| 22:52.44 | chexsum | i keep buying the purplez :( |
| 22:52.48 | Xelopheris | I've got the honor lined up for boomkin season 1 |
| 22:52.58 | kenlyric_ | any clues which idiotic tokens we're going to need for arena gear? |
| 22:53.06 | chexsum | ive got full heal and dmg bg gear and 2 arena items atm |
| 22:53.31 | theoddone33 | when is that happening? december? |
| 22:53.39 | kenlyric_ | s3 |
| 22:53.45 | theoddone33 | I guess I've got a month to get 75k on two characters |
| 22:53.59 | chexsum | i think theyll just replace bg gear with the s1 stuff |
| 22:54.23 | kenlyric_ | bg tokens make me want to stab. |
| 22:54.35 | Xelopheris | BG gear will be made cheaper |
| 22:54.42 | kenlyric_ | getting 20 AV tokens... sigh. |
| 22:55.00 | chexsum | yeah they nerfed av fishing :((( |
| 22:55.16 | chexsum | you can still grind the cave though |
| 22:55.28 | CIA-12 | 03ckknight * r51310 10LibRockComm-1.0/LibRockComm-1.0.lua: LibRockComm-1.0 - typo |
| 22:55.44 | Xelopheris | I prefer ninjaing towers |
| 22:55.48 | *** part/#wowace Wogroipl (n=Wogroipl@c529c7a0e.cable.wanadoo.nl) |
| 22:56.08 | theoddone33 | AV has been pretty easy since they fixed AFKing |
| 22:56.10 | Paene | sooooo....who wants to teach me how to make a button and control where it is on the screen in WoW? :D |
| 22:56.18 | kenlyric_ | i've heard it's much longer again. |
| 22:56.20 | kenlyric_ | lots of turtles |
| 22:56.22 | shieldb | hmm, anyone have a nifty way of tracking down what addon is breaking my raid frame so I can't open it in combat to move groups? |
| 22:56.23 | theoddone33 | probably |
| 22:56.24 | orionshock | chexsum: not really |
| 22:56.38 | theoddone33 | that week of the patch horde was winning around 60% on my battlegroup though |
| 22:56.40 | theoddone33 | it was nice |
| 22:56.42 | ag` | I've never been flagged "lazy" even if I've afked or idled for longer periods of time after 2.2 |
| 22:57.17 | orionshock | give it time |
| 22:57.19 | *** part/#wowace hugo (i=hugo@hugo.scnet.cz) |
| 22:57.29 | chexsum | my servers on a premadeavenabler spree atm |
| 22:58.06 | ag` | Well the funny thing is people do not stand afk in the tunnel anymore |
| 22:58.12 | ag` | everyone is playing |
| 22:58.46 | orionshock | ya funny thing that is... if you play , if everyone plays you win AND get more honor |
| 22:58.53 | ag` | but it's still strange that everyone is playing now, as my experience is as I said above -- people do not flag me even if I idle |
| 22:59.18 | orionshock | well they don't have my mod then :P |
| 22:59.36 | chexsum | autonark ? |
| 22:59.55 | ag` | what addon? |
| 23:00.10 | orionshock | lol AutoNark |
| 23:00.17 | chexsum | i got tonnes of people banned when i was grinding hwl :P |
| 23:00.40 | orionshock | it's called FuBar_ReportAFK fu, it's rather simple |
| 23:00.43 | chexsum | i dont cae any more though |
| 23:00.44 | orionshock | and bloated :P |
| 23:01.12 | orionshock | it has many holes, very easy to get arround |
| 23:02.16 | Polarina | chexsum: What people? |
| 23:02.26 | Polarina | For doing what? |
| 23:02.57 | chexsum | people competing for hwl with bots |
| 23:03.05 | Polarina | hwl? |
| 23:03.11 | chexsum | high warlord |
| 23:03.20 | Polarina | What is that? |
| 23:03.45 | Polarina | And how do you truly know if they are bots or not? |
| 23:04.27 | orionshock | Polarina: pvp rank- old world system |
| 23:04.38 | Polarina | ? |
| 23:04.38 | chexsum | its easy to tell |
| 23:04.51 | kenlyric_ | that's blizzard's job to decide if they are bots. |
| 23:06.15 | hyperChipmunk | well, they weren't usually bots |
| 23:06.28 | hyperChipmunk | just you had people playing the account 24h/day |
| 23:06.32 | Diao | hmm was just thinking about the warrior threat reduction in 2.3 and how it means warriors will get a nerf the day WOTLK is released |
| 23:07.04 | chexsum | there wasnt many people that didnt use bots |
| 23:07.51 | Ordog | i used a bot! my room mate ;P |
| 23:07.55 | Polarina | http://www.darklegacycomics.com/107.html |
| 23:08.04 | Xelopheris | Does a G15 keyboard count as a bot? |
| 23:08.19 | Ordog | no it counts as a nerd gadget |
| 23:08.45 | Polarina | http://www.darklegacycomics.com/106.html |
| 23:08.45 | Xelopheris | k, just checkin' |
| 23:08.53 | Ordog | if you strictly follow blizzard rules: yes |
| 23:08.57 | Xelopheris | Polarnia: http://www.darklegacycomics.com/105.html |
| 23:09.03 | orionshock | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:09.11 | Ordog | if you are using it to replay recorded keyhits getting an advantage |
| 23:09.35 | Xelopheris | I definitely used to use it to jump every 30s in AV |
| 23:09.35 | Ordog | thats "third party software altering the game experience" |
| 23:10.11 | ag` | I use AppleScript to own AV |
| 23:11.07 | Cyrez | The person banned for using a Logitech G15 keyboard was doing so AFK. THAT is why Blizz smoked him. |
| 23:11.23 | orionshock | you do know that afking in AV is entirely counter productive to farming honor in every way shape and form |
| 23:11.31 | Xelopheris | I sit at my keyboard and read a book |
| 23:12.02 | ag` | It is counter productive to be AFK |
| 23:12.11 | ag` | but look at the margin cost |
| 23:12.18 | chexsum | http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=f0ebogToidVohfV0bEZV would hurt |
| 23:12.36 | orionshock | the entire idea is a sliperly slope, sure if only 2 or 3 people do it - it's fine, but when more than 2/3's of the raid is afk, you get no honor, we get no honor |
| 23:12.42 | orionshock | it's self defeating |
| 23:12.46 | Recluse | so, if you rigged a software-independant purely mechanical device to peck keys in a pre-defined order would it be a bot? |
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| 23:13.02 | buu | Yes. |
| 23:13.07 | orionshock | and yea, ive been in av rounds where 35 / 40 where afk, and i got no honor what so ever |
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| 23:13.37 | ag` | the amount of honor per hour lost by idling is of less value than the time invested in laming the same BG day in day out |
| 23:13.51 | orionshock | no ifact it's not |
| 23:14.01 | CIA-12 | 03grum 07WIP * r51311 10Cartographer_Routes/Cartographer_Routes/Core.lua: |
| 23:14.01 | CIA-12 | Cartographer_Routes: |
| 23:14.01 | CIA-12 | - Reworked parts of the configuration (Thanks vhaarr for suggestions!) |
| 23:14.01 | CIA-12 | - Removed last 'AceLibrary' references |
| 23:14.01 | CIA-12 | - Slightly better handling of 'broken' routes |
| 23:14.08 | ag` | it's not? |
| 23:14.12 | orionshock | if you sit for 2 hours & play 8 games and get no honor - where is the profit in that? |
| 23:14.18 | orionshock | ? |
| 23:14.23 | orionshock | there isn't |
| 23:14.30 | ag` | you do get honor |
| 23:14.34 | orionshock | no you don |
| 23:14.35 | kenlyric_ | it's impossible to get no onor out of AV |
| 23:14.36 | orionshock | no you dont |
| 23:14.39 | kenlyric_ | you're thinking of WSG |
| 23:14.55 | MoonWitch | I can understand having to use the bathroom or whatever and thus be afk in bg, but honestly it blows really bad when all healers are dead and stay dead .... or when they freaking run behind you, fight starts - they run back |
| 23:14.58 | ag` | you get AT LEAST 300 honor from losing an AV |
| 23:15.00 | orionshock | ive done 3hr tours though AV , and time and time again -we have been farmed at the cave |
| 23:15.15 | orionshock | ag`: you don't get it 35 people where AFK |
| 23:15.22 | orionshock | 5 vs 40 = shitty and no honor |
| 23:15.32 | vhaarr | Grum: nice |
| 23:15.40 | durcyn | makes me glad i finished stormpike faction at 60.. good old 18-hour AVs |
| 23:15.41 | ag` | in AV weekends that's an easy 167 honor |
| 23:15.42 | vhaarr | Grum: now just remove the 3 reset buttons per route, and make it one instead |
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| 23:15.52 | vhaarr | Grum: "Reset to defaults", and put it under "Line settings" |
| 23:15.58 | Grum | not really |
| 23:16.02 | Grum | you might not want to reset al |
| 23:16.03 | Grum | *all |
| 23:16.04 | kenlyric_ | WSG gives you NOTHING for losing. |
| 23:16.08 | Grum | or .. humz |
| 23:16.13 | vhaarr | nonsense |
| 23:16.19 | Grum | you have per-route settings |
| 23:16.20 | orionshock | how can one kill the Lt's if one dosn't make it out of the cave? |
| 23:16.22 | ag` | ...unless it's WSG weekend |
| 23:16.23 | MoonWitch | oh yes, I used to have an addon which told me which bg it was that weekend... can't recall which one ... |
| 23:16.24 | kenlyric_ | and AB it's possible to get nothing if you get five capped quickly |
| 23:16.26 | Grum | and you might want to reset those to the 'defaults' |
| 23:16.30 | chexsum | i used to solo the whole alliance base and once balinda when i was grinding av rep |
| 23:16.37 | Grum | so they inherit again from the default settings |
| 23:16.42 | orionshock | im not talking about extreames here people - im talking about every day AV |
| 23:16.45 | Polarina | http://www.darklegacycomics.com/96.html |
| 23:16.46 | vhaarr | Grum: the tradeoff isn't worth it, you have 3 buttons there taking a LOT of screen real estate that are practically _never_ going to be used |
| 23:16.50 | chexsum | it took me about 30 mins to solo bal lol |
| 23:17.00 | vhaarr | Grum: reduce them to one button and remove the excess group by putting it in "Line settings" |
| 23:17.01 | Grum | vhaarr: dropdown could be an option ? |
| 23:17.11 | MoonWitch | orionshock, it's why I dont bg often, usually that crap pisses me off ... |
| 23:17.16 | vhaarr | Grum: noone will miss those reset options |
| 23:17.18 | vhaarr | Grum: just remove them |
| 23:17.22 | Grum | i will |
| 23:17.26 | Grum | O.o |
| 23:17.35 | orionshock | ag`: your argument is flawed - accept defeat :P |
| 23:17.57 | Grum | humz |
| 23:18.04 | Grum | ah well not so many options to reset |
| 23:18.08 | Grum | *fixing* :) |
| 23:18.14 | Grum | can you test/try the rest of the things? |
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| 23:18.26 | Grum | should look much better now |
| 23:18.52 | Trell_ | ive jsut found out the barrel delivery q for brewfest is every 12h, is that right? |
| 23:19.01 | Trell_ | and is it every 12 server hours? or from when you've last done it |
| 23:19.03 | vhaarr | Grum: let me know when you commit, I'll test it |
| 23:19.32 | Grum | vhaarr: most changes are in now |
| 23:19.39 | Grum | some extra features as well |
| 23:19.53 | Trell_ | <MoonWitch> oh yes, I used to have an addon which told me which bg it was that weekend... can't recall which one ... <---- Fubar_HonorFu |
| 23:19.53 | Grum | i'm just unsure having a tree-entry for 'Add Route' is the way to go |
| 23:20.04 | Grum | i can easily inline that group and put it in the main options .. but it's not a real option O.o |
| 23:20.30 | MoonWitch | Trell_, thanks .. |
| 23:20.40 | Nandini | i have a song stuck in my head, how can i get it out? |
| 23:20.49 | Trell_ | Nandini: Tin opener. |
| 23:20.49 | Grum | listen to something worse |
| 23:21.08 | MoonWitch | Nandini, listen to the numa numa song |
| 23:21.23 | mikma | ag`: sing that to them |
| 23:21.30 | Nandini | i was playing a trivia game and one of the answers was a line from the theme to Green Acres and now i have zsa zsa gabor in my head singing it over and over |
| 23:21.35 | ag` | dragostei din tei |
| 23:21.44 | MoonWitch | I am so sorry for that Nandini |
| 23:21.51 | ag` | orionshock: in my battlegroup doing AV idle gave the same amount of honor as participating |
| 23:22.20 | Nandini | it's such a ridiculously peppy theme song too, why couldn't it have been the addams family or something :( |
| 23:22.39 | orionshock | see winning gives 2x as much honor btw |
| 23:22.52 | ag` | well you could say the impact of having one less play would result in lower average honor, but it's minimal compared to the time you waste by doing the same old AV over and over again |
| 23:23.10 | ag` | winning gives 2x? |
| 23:23.15 | ag` | I'm not really sure of that |
| 23:23.28 | orionshock | ya i afk'ed myself - got ~250hr |
| 23:23.43 | ag` | I've lost AVs that gave more honor than some I've won |
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| 23:23.49 | orionshock | im winning now in av walking away with ~500pts per |
| 23:23.51 | kenlyric_ | isn't that > 0? |
| 23:23.57 | Grum | vhaarr: hmm where to put that reset button? |
| 23:23.58 | orionshock | at about 20mins a game |
| 23:24.01 | Nandini | i wonder why yodeling is not more common in popular music |
| 23:24.04 | kenlyric_ | isn't 250 > 0? |
| 23:24.15 | kenlyric_ | are you using a math i'm unfamiliar with? |
| 23:24.28 | ag` | the difference between winning and losing isn't big in my experience |
| 23:24.42 | vhaarr | Grum: inside the Line settings box |
| 23:24.44 | vhaarr | Grum: at the bottom |
| 23:24.52 | Grum | below delete? |
| 23:25.00 | Grum | or below the color-swatches? |
| 23:25.09 | Grum | not sure about that |
| 23:25.10 | vhaarr | below delete |
| 23:25.14 | ag` | and the percentage of won/lost BGs isn't very different when afking and when participating |
| 23:25.15 | vhaarr | delete is a more common operation |
| 23:25.15 | Grum | k |
| 23:25.18 | Grum | true |
| 23:25.20 | Grum | consider it done ^^ |
| 23:25.26 | orionshock | ag`: hold up... |
| 23:25.57 | orionshock | 1 hour, 3 games = ~450honor |
| 23:26.00 | orionshock | afking |
| 23:26.20 | buu | AFKERS NEED TO BE SHOT TO DEATH. |
| 23:26.20 | orionshock | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:26.22 | buu | Fuckers. |
| 23:26.22 | orionshock | ? |
| 23:26.36 | orionshock | ok so im doing the math wrong |
| 23:26.40 | orionshock | sue me |
| 23:26.53 | ag` | well, I don't have concrete data to back this up. But the fact is that for a lot of players, the time used on grinding AV is worth a lot less than what you gain by participating |
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| 23:27.06 | ag` | which really shows that this honor/bg/pvp item system is very flawed |
| 23:27.19 | orionshock | mabe you should try it and not follow the crowd over the cliff |
| 23:27.38 | ag` | my point isn't that I afk myself all day |
| 23:27.42 | orionshock | no the people afking just feel like they are getting the same honor |
| 23:27.43 | ag` | my point is that the system sucks |
| 23:27.57 | orionshock | well that is something we can agree on :D |
| 23:28.07 | vhaarr | Grum: I haven't read up on the rock config crap yet, is it possible to add a text label to an option group, with just information in it? |
| 23:28.18 | orionshock | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:28.24 | ag` | I bet a lot of people are willing to give up 3-500/honor per hour if it means that they can go read a book/see a movie meanwhile |
| 23:28.46 | ag` | because doing AV is getting old for most |
| 23:28.54 | orionshock | it's not 3-500 honor , we're taling about 1k-2k honor |
| 23:29.29 | CIA-12 | 03nebelmond * r51312 10Rawrkitty/ (8 files in 2 dirs): |
| 23:29.29 | CIA-12 | Rawrkitty: initial commit |
| 23:29.29 | CIA-12 | - New sounds for Pounce and Feral Charge. Enjoy. :-) |
| 23:30.09 | ag` | I'm not really so sure that you lose 1-2k honor simply by idling. Most of the honor you get is from bonuses, where one player more or less doesn't matter that much |
| 23:30.10 | orionshock | is it me or are mods getting more and more ... trivial comes to mind but ... assinine works |
| 23:30.55 | ag` | of course if EVERYONE is idle then noone gets anything, but that is very rarely the case, at least in the battlegroups I have experience from |
| 23:30.57 | orionshock | ag`: you do relize that it only takes 5 or so people to take out a Lt... but it only takes 3 or so to gank them... thus |
| 23:31.49 | kenlyric_ | orionshock: "specialized" |
| 23:32.02 | ag` | most objectives are zerged, and horde doesn't really fight alliance and the other way around |
| 23:32.22 | ag` | so you will get honor always even if only 25 people is vs 40 |
| 23:32.28 | kenlyric_ | we need a complete sound revamp, like everything in the game triggering mario sounds. |
| 23:32.36 | MoonWitch | lol kenlyric |
| 23:32.44 | ag` | also if alliance got 25 idlers, chance is horde got 25 idlers too |
| 23:33.20 | a-stray-ca1 | in av? |
| 23:33.29 | kenlyric_ | no, in wsg. |
| 23:33.34 | a-stray-ca1 | in our AVs when we used to get idlers, it'd be 20-30 horde idling |
| 23:33.35 | kenlyric_ | the 25 man wsg |
| 23:33.37 | a-stray-ca1 | and most of the alliance playing |
| 23:33.49 | orionshock | ag`: .. no see alliance do defense.. and it's usualy half and half.. 20 on O, and 20 on D... that vs 5 or 10 on O and the rest in the cave... donsnt work to well. |
| 23:34.06 | orionshock | generaly you get snuffed at the cave and dont' even get to shank a Lt |
| 23:34.39 | ag` | I've never seen an AV where one side didn't get to do objectives because they were caught in the cave |
| 23:34.49 | orionshock | ... ive been in plenty |
| 23:34.53 | MoonWitch | in about 12 bgs, I've only won twice ... usually we have several AFKs, or we have half leave mid bg |
| 23:35.02 | orionshock | cyclone battlegroup - full of idiots that AFK |
| 23:35.08 | kenlyric_ | horde always loses, but they take some GY. |
| 23:35.25 | Grum | vhaarr: how do you mean? add a text label? |
| 23:35.28 | orionshock | does the term "Blue Map" mean anything :D |
| 23:35.32 | Grum | you mean like a 'blob of text' ? |
| 23:35.46 | vhaarr | Grum: right |
| 23:35.52 | Grum | wasn't possible afaik |
| 23:36.16 | Grum | btw i just created that 'press button for route creation' |
| 23:36.29 | Grum | but not sure if i should inline the 'add route' next to the other option |
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| 23:36.45 | Grum | or leave it in the tree |
| 23:36.56 | vhaarr | Grum: then, after the user hits add, you need to print a text message to the chat, saying something along the lines of "A new route %q has been added to <zone>, please remember to optimize its path in the individual route settings." |
| 23:37.10 | vhaarr | Grum: and rename "Add route" to just "New" |
| 23:37.10 | Grum | there will be auto-tsp later |
| 23:37.33 | Grum | not sure about that one vhaarr |
| 23:37.38 | vhaarr | "Add", then |
| 23:37.47 | Grum | true addon is called ROutes |
| 23:37.49 | vhaarr | it's called context |
| 23:37.56 | Grum | no use to add 'Route' again there |
| 23:37.59 | vhaarr | you're already in the route context, you don't need it repeated |
| 23:38.06 | Grum | yeah |
| 23:38.13 | Grum | fix0ring |
| 23:38.43 | Nandini | sometimes repetition is good, for comfort and confirmation |
| 23:39.10 | Grum | but in this case rather stupid tbh |
| 23:39.19 | Nandini | if a button is going to perform some function, i don't mind it telling me exactly what it will do |
| 23:39.26 | vhaarr | Grum: and I think the Add box needs a zone dropdown, with your current zone preselected |
| 23:39.40 | Grum | but vhaarr, i'll add an option later to provide 'auto optimizing' and selecting either background or foreground from the 'add' section |
| 23:39.53 | vhaarr | okay |
| 23:39.59 | vhaarr | then the text message isn't needed |
| 23:41.32 | Grum | Xinhuan is still working on the algorithm |
| 23:41.59 | breser | Antiarc you around? |
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| 23:42.33 | Grum | vhaarr: also added a 'are you sure' for foreground optimize if the route is > 200 nodes |
| 23:42.42 | Grum | should i give the user control over the '200' ? or ... |
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| 23:42.48 | Xinhuan | yes i'm still working on it |
| 23:42.54 | vhaarr | Grum: no |
| 23:43.18 | Grum | stupid thing is that 200 nodes is on my pc no problem |
| 23:43.26 | Grum | but on someone else with a crap pc it might crash their wow |
| 23:43.44 | Grum | s/crash/stall and disconnect/g |
| 23:44.12 | CIA-12 | 03anxarces * r51313 10ProfessionsBook/ (PB_Main.lua PB_Options.lua README.txt): |
| 23:44.12 | CIA-12 | ProfessionsBook: |
| 23:44.12 | CIA-12 | - Fix to speed up the color code algorithm a little. |
| 23:44.15 | Grum | so having the warning is nice but ... humz |
| 23:44.21 | vhaarr | Grum: remove the 200 roof completely and always have the checkbox for foreground |
| 23:44.31 | CIA-12 | 03nebelmond * r51314 10Rawrkitty/: |
| 23:44.31 | CIA-12 | Rawrkitty: |
| 23:44.31 | CIA-12 | - added sound files |
| 23:44.34 | Grum | might as well indeed hehe |
| 23:45.02 | Grum | k done |
| 23:45.12 | vhaarr | Grum: I assume there's some user feedback for "Background" optimizing when it's done |
| 23:45.17 | Grum | yeha |
| 23:45.19 | vhaarr | ok |
| 23:45.22 | Grum | and when it starts |
| 23:45.23 | vhaarr | nice, commit! |
| 23:45.26 | Grum | kk |
| 23:45.45 | Nandini | hmm why have i never installed rawrkitty? it sounds vaguely druidish :) |
| 23:45.45 | Grum | just reloadui to see if i made any stupid booboos |
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| 23:46.59 | Grum | now test ^^ |
| 23:47.02 | CIA-12 | 03grum 07WIP * r51315 10Cartographer_Routes/Cartographer_Routes/Core.lua: |
| 23:47.02 | CIA-12 | Cartographer_Routes: |
| 23:47.02 | CIA-12 | - More config changes (thanks again vhaarr for suggestions) |
| 23:47.06 | Grum | pl0x :D |
| 23:47.26 | Grum | it sucks that it was a dewdrop config |
| 23:47.35 | Grum | and never fully converted it .. it looked even worse hehe :D |
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| 23:48.59 | vhaarr | Grum: adding a new route doesn't work |
| 23:49.03 | vhaarr | "No name given for new route" |
| 23:49.14 | Grum | problem with RockConfig atm |
| 23:49.19 | Grum | you need to press enter to 'store' the name |
| 23:49.30 | Grum | poked ckknight already for something that updates on keypress |
| 23:49.32 | orionshock | not a problem, simply proccess |
| 23:50.12 | Grum | with not 'labels' i cant really make people aware of that O.o |
| 23:50.18 | Grum | s/not/no |
| 23:50.45 | vhaarr | Grum: seems to work fine then, looks better now |
| 23:51.19 | vhaarr | Grum: did you reply to my zone-dropdown-in-add-group remark |
| 23:51.20 | Grum | also when you try to add an already existing route it will give you a 'exists confirm' checkbox |
| 23:51.34 | Grum | mmm i think not |
| 23:51.40 | Grum | paste line again plox ^^^ |
| 23:51.52 | Grum | but i know it lacks localization |
| 23:51.54 | vhaarr | Grum: and I think the Add box needs a zone dropdown, with your current zone preselected |
| 23:52.03 | Grum | humz |
| 23:52.12 | Grum | could do that yes |
| 23:52.16 | Grum | but i need to have a dropdown of all zones |
| 23:52.20 | Grum | i'll smack it in my todo |
| 23:52.26 | RogueShadow | Is it me, or is ckknight actively speaking in irc becoming rare? |
| 23:52.36 | Grum | hes busy? :D |
| 23:52.39 | vhaarr | Grum: actually, you could make filter it based on level range |
| 23:52.42 | vhaarr | Grum: just use tourist |
| 23:52.47 | Nandini | he answered earlier when i asked something |
| 23:52.51 | RogueShadow | My guess. project, or big feature... hmm |
| 23:52.56 | Grum | vhaarr: mmm |
| 23:53.02 | vhaarr | Grum: that would make it easier for the user to pick another zone, since the menu would be -slightly- smaller |
| 23:53.02 | Nandini | or just lots of little fixes |
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| 23:53.15 | orionshock | well there is such a thing as IRL... could be busy with that |
| 23:53.28 | Nandini | i seem to be missing the L part |
| 23:53.35 | orionshock | Cairenn|afk: is in here and i see she's here all day and night long and never says anything |
| 23:53.47 | orionshock | that i've seen atleast |
| 23:54.04 | RogueShadow | Just making sure he's still here. Cant' have my addon king vanishing. |
| 23:54.17 | Nosrac | Lol |
| 23:54.23 | RogueShadow | I see he updated rock to get rid of the sanity things. I was expecting that since scrooge is off the svn |
| 23:54.36 | kebinusan | Bleh nelf shields look like they've been eaten by a likelike |
| 23:54.37 | Nandini | if you want to throw some affection his way, send him a private message, it's always nicer when it's personal :) |
| 23:54.53 | RogueShadow | True True. |
| 23:54.59 | kenlyric_ | kebinusan: i like how they don't cover your fingers. |
| 23:54.59 | RogueShadow | But I have IRL things to take care of atm. |
| 23:55.04 | RogueShadow | such as feeding my girl |
| 23:55.05 | Nandini | or send him a donation, perhaps :P |
| 23:55.23 | Grum | vhaarr: hmm but it seems stupid to only offer 'close' zones (levelwise) |
| 23:55.27 | RogueShadow | She'd kill me if I gave him my lunch money |
| 23:55.33 | RogueShadow | ... maybe next paycheck |
| 23:55.36 | Nosrac | That donation thing will surely work |
| 23:56.02 | ckknight | RogueShadow: I have never left you, child |
| 23:56.04 | vhaarr | Grum: I disagree |
| 23:56.13 | RogueShadow | ckknight, Yay! |
| 23:56.16 | kenlyric_ | I see 4 footsteps |
| 23:56.26 | Grum | vhaarr: what if you want to add something to a lowlvl zone? |
| 23:56.29 | Grum | should it be in the lisT? |
| 23:56.34 | Grum | should the zone you are in in the list? |
| 23:56.39 | Nosrac | Ckknight i always laugh when tou say that |
| 23:56.47 | Grum | should the zone you have open in carto in the list? |
| 23:56.55 | RogueShadow | I'm not completely insane.. i laughed too :) |
| 23:57.02 | orionshock | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:57.36 | Nandini | it's almost as good as thrall's impersonation of jesus in that nagrand quest line |
| 23:57.46 | orionshock | ... anyone other than ckknight activly maintaining honor fu? |
| 23:57.48 | vhaarr | Grum: then you're probably a highlevel character who's leveling from the start, so the user should just go there then |
| 23:58.20 | Grum | but it seems stupid to have a dropdown without all info in it O.o |
| 23:58.24 | vhaarr | Grum: in most situations, you'll only be dealing with zones in your level range, and limiting the zone dropdown to those zones reduces its size significantly |
| 23:58.49 | Grum | true but also the annoyance if you dont want to add it to zone that is close to your level |
| 23:59.04 | Grum | so there still has to be an option to do that |
| 23:59.15 | vhaarr | I disagree |
| 23:59.28 | Grum | maybe i can add 'current physical zone', 'current cartographer zone' as well |
| 23:59.35 | Xinhuan | sheesh, just make a dropdown to choose continent, then a 2nd dropdown to choose the zone |
| 23:59.41 | Xinhuan | you have 3 continents. |
| 23:59.43 | Xinhuan | in the first dropdown |
| 23:59.51 | Xinhuan | then every zone on that selected continent in the 2nd dropdown |
| 23:59.57 | Grum | mmm |
